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“American exceptionalism has led to a country that is exceptionally un-self-aware.” — Peter Thiel
The economic contraction ahead will put this borderline psychotic country through some interesting ch-ch-ch-changes. Mr. Trump now fully owns the Potemkin status quo of record stock markets poised against a withering rot of human capital at the core of an industrial society in sunset mode. Leadership at every corner of American life — politics, business, media — expects an ever-higher tech magical updraft of fortune from an increasingly holographic economy of mere fugitive appearances in which everybody can get more of something for nothing. The disappointment over how all this works out will be epic.
Globalism is wobbling badly. It was never what it was cracked up to be: a permanent new plateau of exquisitely-tuned international economic cooperation engineered to perfection. It was just a set of provisional relations based on transient advantage. As it turned out, every move that advantaged US-based corporations blew back ferociously on the American public and the long-term integrity of the social order. Sinister as it seems, the process was simply emergent: a self-organizing evolution of forces previously set in motion. And, like a lot of things in history, it seemed like a good idea at the time.
“Off-shoring” US industry jacked up corporate profits while it decimated working class livelihoods. In return, that large demographic got “bargain shopping” at Walmart, a life of ever-upward revolving debt, and dead downtowns. The country got gigantic trade deficits and government debt loads. In effect, globalism compelled America to borrow as much as possible from the future to keep running things the way they were set up to run. Now, there is just suspicion that we’ve reached the limits of borrowing. Soon it will be a fact and that fact will upend everything we’ve been doing.
You can see how this is playing out in politics, especially the proposed government-enforced redistribution of whatever wealth is supposed to be left. Of course, much of that wealth is a figment, represented in abstract financial instruments pegged to “money” that may have a lot less value than presumed. The Democratic Party detects opportunity in the gross imbalances of this notional capital and so they are promising every conceivable form of grift to voters from a guaranteed basic income and free medical care and college education to reparations for the descendants of slaves.
They certainly might win the 2020 election on the basis of that proffer, but good luck scaring up the actual financial mojo to make it happen without destroying whatever value remains in the US dollar. The predicament may be aggravated by foreign capital seeking refuge in US financial markets as the banking systems in China and Euroland unwind, giving politicians the false impression that other people’s money belongs to Americans. And anyway, what will these foreigners actually be investing in here? Collateralized loan obligations based on seven-year used-car payment schemes?
The American Left just can’t grok the fact that we missed the window of opportunity for setting up a national health system. That was a mid-twentieth century thang: cheap oil and industrial growth. Please note: it was the Democratic Party under Mr. Obama that turned the college loan industry (and Higher Ed with it) into the appalling racket it’s become, because it fit the template of a society pretending to prosper by racking up debt. That demographic of debtors will be seeking magical debt relief. If they get it, it will be at the expense of the government that took on the guaranteed backing of all that debt, now well over a trillion dollars.
Industrial growth is over, and with it the expectation that all the old debts can be paid back. A few economic commentators are predicting “stag-flation.” We’d be lucky if that’s all it turned out to be. But we’re unlikely to get a re-play of the 1970s. That was an era of geo-financial disturbance that resolved for a while with new oil from Alaska and the North Sea. That’s not going to happen again this time. Stag-flation was just a matter of going nowhere for a decade. The contraction ahead will be brutal, not going nowhere but rather going down hard to a lower and harsher standard of living.
It’s also hard to calculate how disturbing and disruptive the prosecution of the RussiaGate perps will be. If the Democratic Party is acting batshit crazy about it now after the Mueller testimony fiasco, how will they react when dozens of their partisans are marched into court to face charges of sedition. That ugly business looks on-track to collide with the coming financial distress. The result will be much more severe political turbulence than the thinking class expects. It’s easy to imagine circumstances in which normal institutions get suspended and the old major parties are superseded by “emergency” seizures of power by other parties as yet unknown.
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The world is too interconnected to leave any winner standing atop smoking ruins. All will fall, so figuring out how to get everyone health care and a social safety net including meaningful work might be a good idea unless you like having a stew pot in your future you being inside. Nothing is going to get solved with everyone going off in different directions. Unity and solidarity is needed or the future is barren and bleak.
Welcome K-dog, to the US version of the French revolution, or worse, the Bolshevik revolution.
We’ve already had one. The next will be unlike either of those.
Move on and let those who will not learn sort it out, just like before.
Our choice is between a rapid, catastrophic reduction in population or a slow grinding one as people opt out of procreation.
Teeming hordes living meaningless lives does not describe a steady state.
Opioids are running rampant among those living meaningless lives these days. While there will be much talk about opioids taking people out, let alone the whole stupid war on drugs BS, my guess is TPTB will allow the flow to increase. That’ll let that self selecting decline occur without the visible violence they usually employ.
Not a bad solution from the point of view of TPTB. Just ignore them (the underclass) – we have more important business!
Not just opioids
our lovely liberal governments are pushing marijuana onto the public as a tax increase. More important is its ability to sedate the public. Other drugs just follow. Denver is up to Shrooms. Keep those folks quiet.
MJ is less harmful healthwise than cigarettes and alcohol. It’s not as addictive either. MJ can help with a ton of health issues. Cigs and alcohol cause bad health issues.
Mushrooms are not addictive either. In fact, they are kind of anti-addictive and flush out of your system. The fact that natural growing plants are illegal is pretty silly.
Good point JohnAZ. The timing does seem a bit suspicious.
You also left out the most effective drug at keeping people quiet and not questioning their leaders: religion. Luckily, that drug is in decline.
“You also left out the most effective drug at keeping people quiet and not questioning their leaders: religion. Luckily, that drug is in decline.”
Yes , it has been replaced with Fundamentalist progressivisim, complete with its own half assed version of original sin “white privilege , and a cast of white flagellants on nightly cable news.
Even Maureen Dowd thinks that progressives are the new puritans.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/27/opinion/sunday/maureen-dowd-trump-impeachment.html
Yeah, that whole progressive left whinefest is tiring and digging its own grave. Yet another group of ideologues. But I’d bet heavily it has a lot fewer pedophiles in it than Christianity. For now.
Also, back to the original post about “liberal governments” giving us drugs, I do believe most MJ legalization has occurred due to ballot initiatives. Not from righteous government officials shoving it down our throats, like most taxpayer funded religious attempts like prayer in school, crosses on public land, etc… Christians are used to their entitlements and are pissed that others are figuring out how to play their game.
The only way our government is liberal is in its military spending. And marijuana (and mushrooms) are naturally occurring plants w proven health benefits. You can choose to go w lab created pharma drugs if you prefer.
Totally agree with your posts on this threadlet TOTT.
You got that right, K-Dog. We all go down together unless we unify but unity will only be for the few. The many will never get along. We need to figure this out before the SHTF.
As Americans, I truly believe we would all get along together if we were told the TRUTH, warts and all.
Whether about the true state of the economy, the honest forecast for our futures, the international high-level human trafficking/pedophilia racket, the corruption in both political parties with all the lobbyists and money and “revolving doors” and on and on.
Instead we are fed a 24/7 loop of propagandistic bullshit.
I am putting a lot of hope into Durham’s investigation into the DNC, the Obama administration’s illegal spying on American citizens and the mass corruption at the highest levels of the FBI to create a coup against Trump.
It would do us all good to see the Rachel Maddow types do some serious mea culpas.
I completely agree Abbywood. But try to investigate the truth; and they will call you a crazy, conspiracy theorist.
When I told people years ago that many of our society’s elite were pedophiles, I got – at best – the eye roll, and at worst verbally vilified. Now we see
1) Epstein and those he will name (if he lives) ,
2) The Nxium scandal,
3) Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey et al. in Hollywood,
4) Thousands of pedophile arrests in the last 2 years which the MSM has ignored.
And no one has ever acknowledged that I was right all along.
So don’t expect a mea culpa from Rachel Maddow and her ilk. When one “narrative” is proven a tissue of lies, they retreat to the next bunch of lies and accusations. That is what the globalists pay them for.
Interesting that Spacey has a home in Baltimore…
Gasp!
Well said. Lack of connection is the new gold standard in international relations. Borders are sacred on all levels. Breach of borders should result in the breach of bodies.
Solidarity? With who? The Ilhan Omar’s of the world? Obviously she needs to be on the other side of borders. She is the permanent other whom treason has place inside our gates.
Kunstler never tires of railing against social policy that might benefit more than just a few. He doesn’t seem to realize that socialism for the ruling class has brought us to where we are now, not too much free stuff for everyone else. We have 500k homeless and millions struggling to keep food on the table and a roof over their heads, but Kunstler worries about the national debt. Notice he never mentions the trillions added to our debt from tax giveaways. Cash given to folks that already couldn’t spend their fortunes in 100 lifetimes.
JHK also doesn’t seem to realize that we already have free public education(k-12), Bernie just wants to add 4 years of college.The end result could only be fewer people needing public assistance. What possible benefit does Kunstler see from a population that is under educated? Adding free college is necessary due to out of proportion pay scales in comparison to a University education in America.
JHK distorts facts again when throwing free health care into his myopic rant. Bernie Sanders has called for medicare for all, and has been forthright that taxes will go up to cover the cost. Just like education, we already have national health care. Bernie just wants to expand Medicare to cover all Americans. But he also explains that they’ll be no more deductibles, copays and premium payments that will offset the tax increase. Imagine being able to change jobs without fear of losing your health care. Also imagine not filing medical bankruptcy at the end of a lifetime of saving and scrimping.
Seriously, gonetohell?
JHK just doesn’t get this and doesn’t get that — I can’t find how you come to such conclusions from the reading of the essay. Is it because he fails to state your pet issues in your terms?
Me thinks thou art abundant in the internal dung.
gonetohell, Talk to any inner city high school teacher sometime about the intellectual quality of their students. College? Not likely, they’re barely fit to work at the car wash after graduation.
There’s plenty of blame to go around. But bottom line, you can’t educated anyone who refuses to be educated.
You’re just full of yourself. I’m sure you’ve had extensive conversations with inner city teachers, as in none. You have no issue indicting ALL inner city kids as lazy, low IQ individuals, because your pitifully narrow thinking tells you inner city=black drug dealer. But regardless, I’m talking about all of America’s young. There are plenty of WHITE kids living in economically depressed areas that need help with higher education. Tens of thousands that have the will, they just need help with the way.
Our standard of living used to be the best in the world. Those were the days when mothers didn’t have to work in order for the family to survive. Dad could take care of a family of four all by himself. He could even send his kids off to college and afford to pay their tuition. Now, even with mom working, kids are taking out a mortgage for a four year degree.
You’re off base and out of touch, which is exactly why you enjoy the ramblings of Mr. Kunstler.
Gone to hell, I’ll try not to respond to you in the unfriendly way you addressed me.
If you find the ramblings of Mr Kunstler so odious, why are you here? Not a ping, just an honest question.
I have a cousin who has taught inner city and delinquent children for years. And she tells me things which I won’t take the space to relate. I suppose you wouldn’t believe it anyway, being so involved in inner city schools yourself and seeing a different reality.
I wasn’t indicting black kids so much as recognizing the reality of low achievement. I truly wish things were different. I want everyone to succeed. But the globalists who rule us want us as dumbed down as possible. You may think they have succeeded with me. But I blame it on the flouride,
As for mommies at work, I thought that was the core of the feminist, leftist agenda. They seemed to think it a good thing.
But yes, most Americans have been slowly getting poorer since about 1970. The pace may soon quicken. I am not happy about that.
College cost have risen faster than inflation largely due to the fact that more money became available via student loans. Loaning people money to pay for what they could not otherwise afford will drive prices higher. You see the process at work in home prices due to easy mortgages and in stock prices due to cheap zero interest money (or close to it) loaned to the wealthy.
Bankers can create this money at no cost or labor unto themselves, then use it as a hook to ensnare lifetime debt slaves. I’m against that. But I digress.
Blacks are dummies for the most part. Everyone knows it who has gone to school with them (as I have). Plus it’s been proven repeatedly for over a hundred years by IQ tests.
Janos – IQ tests are notoriously unreliable –
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/05/140516092048.htm
Plenty of whites are dummies, too. Everyone knows it who has gone to school with them (as I have).
Yeah we’re talking about “averages” is here. Google it or read The Bell Curve. That Blacks are dummies on average is the conclusion of the people who actually study this issue (psychometricians).
Some people think if they can shoot the messenger, it changes the facts.
I would tell these people: don’t argue Black IQ scores with a white supremacist; the discussion only becomes emotionally driven, acrimonious, and spins off into a hundred different dead ends. Argue with the liberal academics who did the studies and published the results.
No, that’s wrong too. How can I be a White Supremacist if I admit East Asians are smarter on average? And that our Enemies, the Ashkenazi Jews are the smartest of all? I’d be a hypocrite then since the same very tests show exactly this.
And btw, that doesn’t mean that their geniuses are smarter than ours. And I’d match our Tradition against any. If I’m proud, it’s because there are reasons to BE proud.
But even when there isn’t or in the few places the East Asians are better, I still choose my own. That’s something different – that’s loyalty. My Mother wasn’t the best mother but she was the best mother for me because she was my mother. This principle has wide applicability and it is part of being a healthy person.
Well now that i know you have a cousin who spent some years teaching “delinquent” and inner city kids, I can accept your indictment of all inner city kids everywhere in the US. I do like the way you conjunct delinquent and inner city as though they are one and the same. I think that gives everyone a fair indication of where you’re coming from. It’s clear you’re racially biased whether you like to admit it or not.
You asked why i visit Kunstler’s blog. Quite simply it’s because, when I began reading his stuff, he wasn’t defending the worst of humanity as he does now. I was taken with his flowery turn of phrase and mistook it for actual insight. His politics seemed unbiased at first, now he just comes off as a Republican political hack. I come now to read because it’s like a bad accident on the freeway that I just can’t seem to turn away from. And to read the idiot lap dogs fawning over his every word.
You never really got around to informing why it’s socially unacceptable to add 4 years of college into our current k-12 system. As you agreed, college tuition is egregiously out of whack with the working family’s ability to pay. Your pointing to the federal gov’t dumping money into the laps of TBTF banks to use for predatory college loans, is not the fault of America’s young that just want a college education. Along those lines, Kunstler thinks any help to a decimated middle class is unacceptable, but apparently had no problem with the recent tax windfall to less than 1% of the population. There’s no return on that investment. Jobs will still be outsourced and manufacturing facilities set up elsewhere. The reason; corporations that were helped are headed by globalists. It’s common knowledge that the donor class threatened to tighten their purse strings if wealth transfer upward did not happen. Again.
Kunstler hates the very idea of Medicare for all as well. It’s just another welfare giveaway in his mind. The reality is of course that it is not. Taxes will go up. But although taxes go up, there are no more ever rising premiums, deductibles and copays. No losing your doctor when your employer changes your medical plan to save money. Any doctor, hospital or medical facility will be available in a Medicare for all system. A huge positive byproduct is that the profiteering in the medical insurance and drug industry will be gone. Every other developed nation has such a system, with better outcomes in longevity, infant mortality and death from preventable circumstances.
What he meant to say is that you’re a moron, racist and bigot. In no particular order.
Name calling is so much quicker, easier, and more satisfying than framing a reasoned argument. I do it myself on occasion. It concludes matters on the irrefutable observation that “you are a bad person, I am a good person, end of argument!” Enjoy your day.
“JHK also doesn’t seem to realize that we already have free public education(k-12)”
Public education is not free. A majority of public school students could just as well not show up and they would be just as “educated”. In fact, students might find themselves more inclined towards self-education if not burned out in those ghettos of learning. I have seen it first hand as a teacher and previously as a student. As our host says over and over, our institutions are fraudulent and need to be reconsidered on a mass scale to the demands of our time. Our industrial base is decimated and it follows that a public school system based on the industrial factory model is falling short.
The property taxes folks are forced to pay more and more towards would be better served to secure those folks own well being. Step into a classroom for a year or two and see yourself how respectful students are for their “free” education at the expense of folks footing the bill. Classic case of stealing from Paul to give to Peter.
The worse students run the classrooms. They know there are no consequences and when inclined those students can turn the entire classroom into a zoo at the drop of a hat.
Can’t hit ’em and they can’t be kicked out. Public schooling is a total shit show.
Try speaking such truths to some people around here, and you get vilified, as if you are the author of all that is wrong with the system. Their belief system: “Let’s all pretend the left wing narrative is true and nobody has to get hurt.”
Everyone knows public education is not free and is paid for through property tax and possibly state tax. But it is free in the same way that public college education would be free. Just add 4 years of college to our current k-12 system. You admit in your rambling that you yourself went through the public school system, so are in fact a product of it. Are you saying you’re poorly educated because of the current public education system?
I didn’t know our educational system was based on the “industrial factory model”. In what way is that so? When I was in school we were taught math, science and English. Are these subjects no longer needed or useful?
I did a little substitute teaching myself and i agree that there are kids in every classroom that shouldn’t be there. This is a problem largely caused by our ongoing social breakdown. Many, many more kids are now in broken homes, and either raised by a single mom or shuffled back and forth between two or more households. The decades long transfer of wealth and income upward is putting tremendous strain and stress on families as well. The children are not immune to this dynamic. It is true as well that unruly kids can not be dealt with in an effective way. But your solution of self education is ludicrous to say the least. If I had to wager a bet I’d say that you were not a good teacher, Judging by your solutions to public education. I doubt you did your level best to see that your students got the best education possible.
Just to be clear. Are you advocating a free college education for those who qualify via test scores and grades. Or are you advocating free college for anyone who wants to go?
It would be nice if you could respond without name calling because deep down a thoughtful person such as yourself must surely be too gracious for such vilification.
hmuller; anyone that wants to try and better themselves should be given the chance to study at a public college. If they can’t cut it they will drop out, as thousands do anyway. But there are thousands more that never get the chance to either succeed or fail at a college degree. Maybe a kid isn’t math and science orientated but loves literature. His or her GPA may eliminate them from studying their true passion of English literature. Not everybody wants to study for an Engineering degree or MBA.
We are falling behind in many aspects in this country because profiteering supersedes everything. Whether talking about health care, higher education, or consumer protections, this is the case. None in our political class, save Bernie Sanders, see any benefit to investing in our nation’s young. They’re our primary resource on whose success our future depends. Progressives know this to be fact.
“Try speaking such truths to some people around here, and you get vilified, as if you are the author of all that is wrong with the system.”
“But your solution of self education is ludicrous to say the least. If I had to wager a bet I’d say that you were not a good teacher, Judging by your solutions to public education.”
hmuller,
You nailed it. Yes, I knew what I was lining myself up for with that comment.
gonetohell,
You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink. I am only looking at the situation truthfully and honestly as I see it. I did not suggest a solution, as I honestly don’t feel there is an organic solution in this current paradigm. 90% of my education and continued education I received from a combination of coming from a good two parent home of the lower middle class variety that, as well as diving hard and not stopping in self education. The student still has to have the drive and put the work; all the best teachers in the world can’t educate a student who doesn’t give a darn.
Abe Lincoln had the Bible, Shakespeare, and an oil lamp. I don’t agree with his actions and thoughts in every circumstance, but he was certainly wise.
In complete agreement, gonetohell.
Free public education gotohell, seriously? What country do you live in because here in America, we pay through the nose through our property taxes for a shithole public “education” which is mostly social engineering. And renters pay too because the property taxes which are paid by the property owners are taken out of your rent checks. And pre-school is very expensive and paid for outright as well. Sorry nothing free in education at any level.
Oh, and I almost forgot that businesses (they call these ratables btw) why they pay property taxes too that are used to pay for the “free” education of which you speak. In our Township all of us who pay for this free education cough up over $23K per student per year, 85% of which goes to pay for salaries and benefits for the staff. Free is one of those four letter words and is probably the most vile of all of the vulgarities.
A classic case of unintended consequences re globalism. The WHY: ignorance of economic basics on top of greed on top of immorality.
I don’t expect anything to collide with the “financial distress” that JHK warns of in the near future. I believe that “financial engineering” still has a lot of wind in its sails. Of course, when the wind finally does run out, all of the decades (or centuries?) of our economic shenanigans will give us the worst Horse Latitudes situation in all of sailing history.
If you listen to the doom and gloom crowd, the world should have ended last century.
Sure, there is a lot of tough shit happening. But tough shit has been the standard for a long time.
The older you get, the more you see. My Mom was a brilliant woman, served in WW2, raised 8 kids then took a job with the US Navy, negotiating contracts for electronic parts. She was a tough cookie. And always kept her sense of humor.
She had one of the best belly laughs of all times. She knew how to party. It broke her heart that day in Dallas in 1963.
She cried all night and the next day. JFK was the best hope this nation had.
But we keep chugging along. Things change, not always for the best. I will never despair. I know my friends and neighbors and my city and my state and my country. Some crazy folk in this land of the free and the home of the brave.
That is what makes it so cool and exciting. We can tolerate hard times, but we do not put up with bullshit.
And people will rally and stick together when times get tough. Neighbors helping neighbors. I have seen it and know it.
So when the shit hits the fan, just watch as the cream rises to the top. We will get by. We will get over it.
Interesting.
Either the “cream rises to the top” or, if cooking chicken soup, “the SCUM”.
As of this point in history, it appears as though Americans have been cooking lots of chicken soup (politically speaking).
zone45,
Thanks for that write up. I often think we will be just fine. My anxiety level has been harsh this past month watching the circus play out and the accompanying reactions. If people en mass were better able to contextualize and simply chill out, we might be able to make it through anything thrown our way.
We need a lot more George Bailey and a lot less bio-polar meth head Joe.
Well zone45, your Mother was wise indeed for she knew that on that black day in November in 1963 America was murdered. I realized it too and unfortunately, there is no going back, we are screwed. Yes we keep going on because that is the only choice we have, but unfortunately for us all, it cannot go on forever and one day it will all come crashing down. Be patient, it is coming soon.
Kunstler is brilliant, that is why we come here.
He sees the energy ratio as the factor to tip the scale.
There are many moving parts. We can keep pushing this baby down the tracks for a long time to come. Lots of tricks up the sleeves.
Smoke an mirrors will keep it going long before the pull date.
Lots of chitter chatter about things to come.
How about thinking about all the heavy lifting?
A rotting corpse throws up a heavy stink.
Who will bury the dead?
Where will you find fresh water?
Some great opportunity if you are an investor.
But the investor may become the target.
Will it become a free for all?
Perhaps.
One big question – what happens to all those debts, especially the student loans. Will they be forgiven, or inflated away? And how upset will those to didn’t take out loans, and who didn’t live on debt handle that reset?
Dealing with that upset is very important. Principal should not be forgiven.
I am not sure the answer is so easy. Many of these kids were conned into taking these loans in a sense.
Leaving school hundreds of thousands in debt with no job prospects is going to contribute to the destruction of a middle class that is barely hanging on.
Not only that, the whole of our monetary policy has been based on this cannibalistic game of borrowing to get ahead, or even just exist. What happens when the looming economic collapse makes it mathematically impossible for people to pay off these loans? Slavery? Indentured servitude? Younger generations helping finger-wagging, righteous boomers exit this plane of existence? This debt issue is not served by a “just do it” mentality.
Nightowl
Do you have a link to the video you referred to in the last thread about Mueller being grilled about (from memory) Obama IRS issues?
Yep. youtube.com/watch?v=t-X76FP0PaM
Jimmy Dore is doing a rather fine job breaking down the ins and outs of Mueller’s previous performance and accompanying msm reaction and “orange man bad” pivots.
Yes, Jimmy is my spirit animal.
Thanks, Nightowl. I will watch it later. It looks like a longer version of the one I watched last night with Mueller unable to tell Jim Jordan (what a coincidence) who was in overall charge of the investigation. Surreal. I also watched a video of Mueller from just a couple of months ago, in May, and he is alert and clear-headed with no sign of dementia.
Mueller’s recent performance reminded me immediately of Christine B Ford’s repulsive impersonation of a simpleton in the Kavanaugh hearings. Do I recall JHK revealing that she had been coached by an FBI friend? At the time Peter Hitchens did not believe Kavanaugh had done anything but he believed nevertheless that something had indeed befallen Ford. I never believed a word of it, but it is interesting to see how otherwise perceptive men can be taken in.
I also learnt that, apparently, the NYT and the Wash. Post were referenced more than a hundred times in the Mueller Report. This reminded me of IPCC (“all of our sources are peer reviewed”) reports where environmental advocacy groups were often among the dodgy scientific backing for their alarmist nonsense. It would not surprise me if one or two articles from the NYT and the WP found their way into the reports too.
This may be too far out there for you, Sean. But Ms Ford is third generation CIA. Ever hear of the “Monarch Program”? Odd that a woman with her education and responsibilities was manifesting the voice, personality, and uncomprehending incompetence of a preteen girl (as in an alter personality). – just saying.
hmuller,
Ahh, the old butterfly bedtime story!
Odious debt.
A young child going to college would never fall for the trap of going into massive debt at such a young age if he/she got a good financial education from their parents and from their pre-college education. If the parents didn’t teach them well and prepare them for the world, they obviously didn’t know either. In that case, when the apple doesn’t fall very far from the tree, we just wind up with another debtor, another slave, another financial trainwreck.
How many high school students take “aptitude tests” in ninth or tenth grade?
None I fear.
Aptitude tests help students realize simple things like, “would you prefer to work inside or outside?”, or “would you be happier being a motivated self-starter or taking directives on tasks from a superior?” etc.
This is how teenagers discover that they would rather be journalists and cover the film business OR be screenwriters and WRITE the scripts OR be the guys/gals who become make-up artists in the film/TV business and on and on.
So profoundly sad that so many millions of our youth “graduate” high school without a freakin’ CLUE about who they are, what they love to do or what their future goals truly are.
Seriously. How did we get so stupid as a country that we think so little of our future generations?
Heart-breaking if you ask me.
Texting. They are qualified to get jobs that involve texting their friends all day.
I look at the current crop of young people and think, “These are the ones who are supposed to pay my retirement checks and medicare expenses. Oh shit, am I in trouble!”
It cannot be, that is default.
We own the debt, that is reality. Some foreign countries were dumb enough to buy our debt and China for one is trying to dump it. What does it mean if we default on our own debt? I do not think anyone knows. It won’t be good.
Can’t we just declare bankruptcy to the world and start over?
Kinda like flipping the Monopoly board over at the end of a game you are losing and pissing off the other players?
We can just divvy out the money again and start the game over? That is if anybody still wants to play with us sore losers.
Ha.
If you leave the bankers in charge, you’ll get the same results on the next go around.
Many people have spoken of what they call “the reset”. How it fill unfold; if it will unfold remains to be seen. But all agree it won’t be a good time for most Americans.
If you are the monopoly money printer. The international reserve currency. Have a big military. Have a lot of assets, etc. you can go on and on and on for quite a long time before you finally crash and burn.
JohnAZ, ‘…dumb enough to buy our foreign debt…’ has undoubtedly taken place, but I would respectfully suggest it is a little more complicated (and dirtier) than that.
The debt taken on is to a greater or lesser extent siphoned off into private accounts in Geneva, London or Hong Kong. The billions that China is thrusting onto ostensibly innocent or gullible shithole countries is being accepted because 20~40% of it (with luck) leaks away to those with signing power. China knows this: a cost of doing business. A western investor who countenances such crookedness can go to jail. Not the Chinese: they are onto the game.
It’s the common people who are left holding the bag, and colonized (think ‘commercial port / Chinese navy base’ in Sri Lanka or ‘overpriced, unnecessary railroad’ in Kenya). Their masters will do quite well from the massive Chinese investment, and that money will be gratefully received in New York or London as well, as ‘private investment’ recycling.
Poor sixpack Joe in Nairobi or Islamabad or Vientiane.He’ll be lucky if he ever sees that bridge or hospital or deepwater port..
But during the mortgage meltdown, upsetting banks loaded with bad debt was a no-no. Is that how you see it? The FED bought all the bad assets off of those zombie banks and put it on the national credit card. Interest rates were then driven to zero punishing retirees dependent on interest income. All of that is forgivable to the nimrod crowd.Now they’re going to drive meager interest rates to zero again, this time on just a whiff that things may be gong south again.
It’s clear you just don’t understand much. Because if you did, it would be our gov’t in cahoots with the banking system that would raise your ire, not some poor kid that was sold a bill of goods. A kid fresh out of college and already buried under a mountain of debt, sometimes debt as large as his parents mortgage. Contending with that debt leaves very little hope of buying a home and starting a family of your own.
I agree with everything you said. Surprised?
I think the system is all fucked up. I just don’t blame it all on Trump. Politicians of both parties over decades have built this house of crap. I blame the deep state, the good old boys network, the globalists, the cabal – whatever you want to call it.
The question – is Trump part of it or trying to upset their whole apple cart? From all the noise, I think the old establishment is against him. Do you think they are just acting?
“Q”?
Seems to be calling out lots of things “before” they happen?!
I’ve the heard anti-Trump crowd call Q “a fictional character”. I respond: how can a fictional character, a non-existent entity, write so many messages? Q is an anonymous character, a pseudonym, but he/she/they certainly exist; Q is not fictional.
In times past a White House source (with the President’s approval) would leak information to favored members of the press corps. The difference with Q is that he leaks info directly to the public. For some reason this really has some people’s panties in a knot. The virulent and irrational hatred they express for Q reflects their inner derangement.
“Will they be forgiven, or inflated away?”
The net result of either of those options is the same, if the debt is forgiven the burden falls on the state (which will then have to “print” money).
In a classic financial “panic” unwise lenders go bankrupt, but in this case it is the state that has made the loan (even though through “independent lenders”). The state cannot let the institutions that hold the loans go bankrupt.
Eventually the state must morph into another form, but that is when the serious reckoning starts. One cannot extract more from a system than the system produces (right now we are extracting credit, which is a finite resource). There must one day be a balancing and that can only occur on the backs of (some of) the people. The only question is how much the elites will be allowed to escape the reckoning.
My prediction is that the ruling elites will realize that their best option is to allow disease and war to winnow the unproductive masses while they hold hard assets. Their ability to do that will depend on allowing other productive members of the population to also keep their assets, making them allies. To do that they will have to choose to distribute wealth to that class. Recall that Marx had no concern for the lumpen proletariat – no state can do so and survive.
“Disease & war”?
Maybe explaining why Open Borders is so popular among the ruling elites. An outbreak of Ebola on these shores would disrupt the news cycle at the very least.
But he was billed as the champion of said lumps. Guess that was just for the useful idiots – always the majority. Thus Democracy is contraindicated, right? Or does you mind refuse the obvious conclusion?
Democracy works less and less as stress increases and “solutions” become more difficult to sell. That is not an argument that democracy cannot work, just that it cannot in an overcrowded world – nor can any other system
We will invest more and more arbitrary power in the government as the stresses increase, but that will only be a phase to a less crowded world where greater freedom is possible.
We are approaching a crisis. How violently we go through it will be an artifact of history. A repressive government can avoid random violence, but creates its own set of problems leading to its demise.
If Trump doesn’t represent the fact that we have run out of options, I don’t know what would.
It can only work in select high IQ groups like the Puritan Colonists of old New England. Otherwise, people are too dumb and/or selfish to choose well. Obviously “Capitalist Man” is automatically disqualified no matter how smart they may be.
One scenario could be giving the bond holders a haircut. This has happened most recently in Greece and Russia, but also in places like Argentina. When that happens a country’s assets are up for grabs. I was in Argentina a few years back, and saw a whole lot of Aeolineas Argentina planes parked on the tarmac. They couldn’t be flown out of the country without being seized by creditors. If the U.S. defaulted on its bonds we’d probably see American oil rigs overseas and cruise ships, airplanes, and who knows what else seized by the Chinese or other creditors. All the institutional holders of U.S. bonds would also be hurt as well as individual investors holding U.S. debt. Banks, (including foreign ones) insurance companies, pension funds, and endowments would be among the victims.
An alternative or possibly concurrent scenario could be a dollar valuation. We’d all wake up to find our savings in dollars reduced in value by some percentage. The government would issue new notes and coins, and the old ones would no longer be considered legal tender. Of course, those who live hand to mouth with no savings would have nothing to worry about. The could by things with new dollars at lower prices.
Too obvious. Your first scenario is more probable: we just wake up to find our money no longer buys nearly as much.
Or if they do the latter, maybe they could make it racial: the new Tubby Twenties are worth far more than the old evil White, Jackson ones.
“Too obvious. Your first scenario is more probable: we just wake up to find our money no longer buys nearly as much.”
Janos,
Probable? How about “observable” I N F L A T I O N….
That’s my bet on how they handle it. Who knows, they may get so overzealous to keep this game going that a week’s or even days wages down the road could pay off someone’s school debt in full. Unless they inflation adjust the debt on certain loans. The parasites always seem to find a way to get their pound of flesh.
Yup just speed it up to infinity. The curve become almost 90 percent. A Wall!
Those debts are probably.being made into securities by the banks. When no one pays out their loans, the banks simply default and if it gets bad enough, go bankrupt. That is 2008. What happens when the government cannot sell enough bonds to bail out the banks? Just imagine all your savings going poof, I’m gone. A misconception of 2008 is that the taxpayers bailed them out. Nope, we just sold more bonds and added to the National Debt.
Who owns the federal government? Contrary to a lot of Liberals, we do, we the citizens of America. That means we own the debt.. to whom? Ourselves? When you see that stat of how much we each owne on the debt, do not take it lightly. I think the latest figure is $58000 per capita. Eventually we will pay!
You do know that the Federal Reserve is privately owned, right? In defiance of the Constitution. In a deep sense, they own us – and your Conservatives have been covering for the Class Tyrants for generations now. And yes, many of them are not American at all, or only nominally (in name only) so.
Happy Earth Overshoot Day, the earliest ever! The economic contraction our host speaks of has been hitting retailers for the past couple of years, as people spent more online and less in brick-and-mortar stores. Just last week, another chain bit the dust, as Charming Charlie declared bankruptcy and will close all stores. The Retail Apocalypse rolls on!
“It’s easy to imagine circumstances in which normal institutions get suspended and the old major parties are superseded by “emergency” seizures of power by other parties as yet unknown.”
It has always seemed inevitable to me. Timing will depend on supplies of fossil fuels and climate change (if any).
It also seems inevitable to me that the proprietors of this global conglomerate are going to eventually realize that their vast unproductive masses who are unwilling to put on a uniform and pick up a gun are a burden, not an asset.
I have a strong hunch that the economic shit storm will begin before November 2020. That will be the only reason that a Dem can beat Trump. Unfortunately if the Dems sweep in to power they will have absolutely nothing to propose in steering the US through this mess. Even the “perfect” solution would take years to start working. But the Dems have invested everything they have into proving Trump is a Putin puppet. Even when their hero Mueller spent over two years looking for proof and didn’t find it they can’t accept it. It is a pathetic shell of a party now. When all you got to offer is proving that the guy in the WH is a Russian Agent and there is no there there, then you’re just lost. And the Dems are lost. And spent. And delusional. And yes thanks to Obama most of the young people who went to college are saddled with unbelievable debt. These make up a large base of the Dem party, and they are unbelievable broke. Can’t even buy their first home. So they will be wanting to be bailed out and I don’t blame them, but there is now nothing to bail them out with. Obama bailed the banks and financiers out though kiddos. And the next Dem President probably will try to do that again. You really don’t matter to them in reality. WASF.
The next president will bail out the banks regardless of party, unless one of those new unknown parties suddenly appears and takes over. It’s been MMT for the financial sector (and MIC) since at least 2008 (long before that for MIC). The whole of the US government’s purpose these days, regardless of party, is to maintain socialism for the upper tier and MIC. Nothing will be spared to maintain that system until natural limits or self destruction and economic cannibalism stop it. Certainly the people of this country won’t stop it. They’ll talk big on message boards, but the owners of this place know they can get half the peons to kill the other half and never, ever look in their direction.
Yes I agree. The next Prez regardless of party will try to bail out the banks. And I agree that we have socialism for the upper tier. That’s obvious. Well not to everyone, but obvious still the same.
What are MMT and MIC?
MMT is Modern Monetary Theory. Here is the brief Wikipedia definition:
“Modern Monetary Theory is a macroeconomic theory that describes and analyses modern economies in which the national currency is fiat money, established and created by a sovereign government. The key insight of MMT is that sovereign governments that are the sole supplier of national currency can issue currency of any denomination, and in physical or non-physical forms.”
I don’t yet know what MIC is.
Sorry about that! MMT = Modern Monetary Theory. MIC = Military Industrial Complex.
Further, MMT has come to mean Universal Basic Income (UBI) in many discussions here. My use of it above means the government (taxpayers) have maintained a UBI for the financial sector (and military contractors) in a kind of trickle down way with interest to those getting trickled upon since 2008. And here I thought Trickle Dowm economics could get any worse and they still found a way.
U B I drives me crazy. It is the ultimate Liberal facade. I do not understand the liberal idea that money just grows on trees and all you have to do it pick it and give it away. The government has never produced one dollar of wealth, they are a parasite feeding on the wealth builders. The government as a wealth source is a pipe dream.
Oh, I don’t know about the assertion that government only feeds on the wealth builders. That sounds like libertarian mythology. The government provided plenty of subsidies for wesrward expansion. They also funded research that was later utilized by so called “wealth builders”. Any honest assessment would show that government and husiness has been symbiotic over the decades.
Why blame Barry?
Bush2 is the one who signed the ‘non dischargeable’ bill.
Barry was bad, but put the blame where it belongs.
True. But I could tell Barry was not the “Hope and Change Populist” within just a few weeks after he was elected. I could tell by the guys he filled his cabinet with. You know, guys from Goldman Sachs, the Fed, various other Wall Street firms, etc… Even Cheney complimented Barry’s cabinet choices.
If Barry had been the man he campaigned as he could’ve done something about that ‘Non Dischargeable Law’. He could have used his early popularity and gone to the people and explained why it was bad. And the people, from across the spectrum, would’ve agreed. But he didn’t. He was never going to bring “Hope and Change”. It was all BS.
Yes, I agree. It is almost like he was our last chance for turning things around but it turned out just to be an illusion. But he has done well for himself and his family. Isn’t that the American way? I got mine – the rest of you can just fuck off!
I find it weird that anyone would have thought there was any chance Obama would “turn things around” since nothing he ever campaigned on showed he had any comprehension of the real problems our country faces.
I found it even more weird that guys like Chris Matthews had “tingling sensations” in their legs when Obama gave a speech in 2008. I’ve been tough on Trump followers for being in a cult, but that whole Obama phenomenon was a classic study in cultism. These two back-to-back Presidencies have assuredly made George Washington spin in his grave.
Ditto Trump. He did the same as far as his Cabinet. If they play ball, maybe they get to do a few of their pet projects. But the Wall is a bridge too far, obviously. But bashing Whites 24/7? Fine since that is in line with the Elite Agenda.
Trump hasn’t loaded his cabinet with any winners either. He reached into the same swamp Obama did, and came up with the same kind of scum. Nothing changed there, and I don’t expect it too. Both parties talk a good game, but when it comes right down to it, only the Oligarchs benefit, just like always.
Yep
>>> “Obama bailed the banks and financiers out though kiddos.”
Uh, no… A little correction there goldpen:
10/3/2008
President Bush signed into law Friday a historic $700 billion bailout of the financial services industry, promising to move swiftly to use his sweeping new authority to unlock frozen credit markets to get the economy moving again.
“It’s complicated, and we’re going to make sure whatever we do is done in a deliberative fashion,” Bush told reporters after he signed the bill as soon as he got it from the House, which passed the measure after a topsy-turvy week of legislative victories, defeats and power plays.
But he promised to get the ball rolling quickly, because the authority is “essential to helping America’s economy weather the financial crisis.”
You think the bail-outs were all completed by January 20, 2009? You think Obama was not also a tool for the Bankers and Globalists?
Yes you are right about Bush. And I’ve noticed that one thing the MSM always gets wrong, and that is regarding when the Tea Party started. They say it started in Feb. or 2009. Wrong! It started in the late summer and early fall of 2008. It started while Dubya was still President. Granted their ranks swelled in numbers during 2009.
But I do blame Obama as well because he approved of the bailouts. Approved them while still a candidate. Then he picked a Goldman Sachs cabinet after elected.
@ goldpen “That will be the only reason that a Dem can beat Trump.”
Trump will be impeached, he’s un-Presidential. Look at what real Presidents have done. George Bush, now that’s a true US President with his hundreds of thousands taken out. What a scorecard that man had!. Now Obama, not so hot in the big totals, a few hundred thousand dead But: Barry was our sniper-in-chief. Could that guy pick ’em off! Every morning coffee in the war room and another family gathering or wedding party off to glory. Trump, what can I say. Two and a half years and what? A handful, that’s it. Certainly not Presidential. Called back the flights for fear 150 would be killed. 150, Obama had that many for lunch some days. Impeach him! Get somebody in there to rule the American way. What do you think we’re paying for here? We want results.
Lol!
He may be impeached, although I doubt it. But he definitely will not be removed. And I hope not because then Pence will be President. A true blue dominionist evangelotard nut case who thinks gawd talks to him. War will be a certainty if that motherfucker is ever the Prez. Something the dumbass Dems never stop to realize. But no one seems to understand the succession line anymore. That’s what happens when civics is no longer taught in the government mis-education centers.
Democrats get their “wet dream” (TDS run amok) and Trump gets impeached by the Senate then Mike Pence becomes president and they’re all (including the MSM cheerleaders like Maddow), “Wait!…What??!”
D’Oh!
Actually, the civics teacher coming out in me, the Senate does not Impeach. The House Impeaches and then sends the matter on to the Senate for conviction. If convicted then the President is removed from office.
Bill Clinton was Impeached by the House, but the Senate did not convict so he stayed in office.
Essentially Impeach is a synonym for Indict. But this whole process is political rather than criminal so the terms are a bit different.
If you think downtowns are dead, try buying property in one. This. The housing debacle, will be the big downfall. After Wall Street investment firms swooped in and plucked up all the foreclosures, they are essentially slumlords. And they are beholden to shareholders only.
Now they’re micromanaging urban centers. And what happens when they can’t rent the properties? Run go crying for a bailout?
Sure a lot of our wealth is fictional, and no argument from me that a national health care system is a pipe dream at this point. But couldn’t we at least ease the economic strain on the country by 1) nudging the top marginal tax rate in the direction of what it was under Eisenhower? and 2) closing a few of the 700+ plus military bases around the globe? (The constitution does not provide for the US to be the world’s policeman.) Even within the constraints of current circumstances, there are things that could be done that we’re not doing. The stupidity–and greed–is epidemic.
No you’re talking common sense. That’s been dead since at least 9-11.
“But couldn’t we at least ease the economic strain on the country by 1) nudging the top marginal tax rate in the direction of what it was under Eisenhower? and 2) closing a few of the 700+ plus military bases around the globe? ”
I think we will, because we must, but that will do no good as long as we keep using credit to forestall the inevitable. Other things that may happen are “means testing” Social Security and Medicare, which will really piss some people off.
The “inevitable” of which I speak is realizing that we are in overshoot.
Things will continue on their current trajectory until they can’t. Then, new arrangements will be made. There is just too much money to be made by those making money under the current arrangement to allow any of the ‘reasonable’ changes you suggest to take place. We are just going to have to stumble our way through.
I see what you’re saying here, Jim, and agree with you for the most part. The one caveat being that the delusion of targeted inflation of the money supply with corresponding inflation of asset prices for those wealthy enough to own them (aka, the people who actually matter) vs the growing worthlessness of the money itself to actually pay for anything of value for the unfortunate many who are living paycheck to paycheck is a powerful one, and as long as such a policy serves the interests of the former group it won’t much matter what the latter group thinks of it. Especially when they’re so easily bamboozled by the now ubiquitous political flimflammery that’s being bandied about 24/7 by the all encompassing media bezzle.
In short, I think this can go on for far longer than most of us now suspect, the one wild card being the US’s proclivity for getting into ill-advised, long and costly foreign wars without end. The MICC grift is pretty much played out now, and lo and behold, both China and Russia are onto our shit and are now militarily equipped to put a stop to it. Especially with China holding all those increasingly worthless dollars, which they one day will weaponize by unceremoniously dumping on the world markets. And boy oh boy, won’t we have some fun then?
“Especially with China holding all those increasingly worthless dollars, which they one day will weaponize by unceremoniously dumping on the world markets. And boy oh boy, won’t we have some fun then?”
And on the day that incident occurs, you don’t think the Fed will hit Ctrl-P and sop up the whole damn lot in 4 nanoseconds?
They’ve got $4Trillion on the books right now . . . what’s another $1.5Trillion of Treasuries going to do . . . break their account???
Not a chance.
That’s true, but it will still seriously roil the financial markets. And more importantly, it will sound the death knell for the dollar’s status as world reserve currency. There’s ultimately no free lunch, no matter how many tricks the Zionist Fed has up their sleeves. Once the military protection rackets are seriously exposed, the mighty dollar will be as well.
Hookers at the end of the world …
https://soundcloud.com/daniel-sullivan-505714723/little-saigon-report-139-hookers-at-the-end-of-the-world
I listened for a few seconds..he is drinking coffee…dikdnt grab me.
Not being too knowledgable in economics, I am curious, when $1.5 trillion in college loan debt is ‘wiped out’, or forgiven, what does it really mean? Is there a downside? Will there be unintended consequences for the economy? What actually happens to the debt, because saying it no longer exists doesn’t mean that it still isn’t out there, hidden away, And what about people who have paid their loans back, will they get a refund? Finally, what about student loans going forward? Will they be forgiven as they’re being made? Or will the program end, and all college ed made “free”, which poses a whole new set of questions.
I have similar questions about ‘Medicare for illegal aliens’. Are there enough resources extant to pay extend free medical care to people who have never paid ingo the system? Are resources in America infinite?
Brh
I remember when the Bush/Obama neoclown Pentagon mysteriously lost $6.5 trillion and no one cared.
I suspect the debt really does just dissapear since the accounting behind it isn’t based in any kind of reality.
Are resources in America infinite?
It was a joke.
Yes, as long as the resource is the taxpayer, and the recipients are the wealthy.
Think like the richest people think.
The money isnt even paper or copper., its digits in a banks computer.
College debt is not forgiven, yet.
Will the gov [slave to the rich] soak the rich? I doubt it.
As you very well know, QOL is declining.
QUALITY OF LIFE -QOL.
1) Medicare for non citizens
2) Open the borders
3) Abolish ICE
The above are part of the platform of the majority of Dem pres candidates. What if, say, after Jan 2021, 25 million people from the 3rd world decide to pull up stakes and make their way into the US? And another 25 million in 2022? I’ve read there are at least a billion people in the world who would emigrate to the United States if they could.
Brh
In my medium-sized city, 28 people were murdered last month. Almost all New York Puerto Ricans shooting each other.
–Unz commenter
You tube–youth shot and killed at Gilroys Garlic fest.
–the take away, beware of free events, parades, state fairs.
I think the country (USA) is only going to go more hard-right. There will be no choice. Difficult decisions are going to need to be made and the ‘all-inclusive’ mode of liberal Dems is just not up to the task. Let’s be real here: the US military is not going to allow the nonsense to continue indefinetly. At some point they will need to step in.
At that moment, all the ‘identity’ folks will need to keep a low profile. Thats just how it works in the real world.
Considering the environmental destruction caused by a single American, it would seem that building the wall would be a huge step in preserving the environment here in the US.
Immigration is truly an environmental issue, but the right doesn’t seem to understand that. They could really shove that down the throats of the Dems.
PAT BUCHANAN tried, have you read his books?
And the guy who bikes, Frosty Woolridge.
“Are resources in America infinite?”
Are resources from the Fed infinite?
Yes.
Confidence in the system is not infinite. The system will have to morph into a more powerful system.
If the debt is “wiped out” either the institutions that made the loans must take the losses, the government must make them whole, or some combination of the two. If enough institutions take enough losses the whole system goes down because of asset destruction as was feared in 2008 – so that is not an option.
To the extent that the government “makes them whole” the government must “print” money which slowly erodes confidence in government (and its “money”). Where the balance lies (until the reckoning) is a matter of politics.
Are resources in America infinite?
Earth is a closed system. Only so much non renewable resources.
Does anyone factor the overall health ( I would assume mental and physical) of this country in their dire prognostication? I see the most malformed creatures everywhere I go in Central Virginia. They are getting younger as well and often have several or more offspring attached in their entourage. I am talking about a random walk through Walmart. The company I work for a commercial janitorial company hired a young girl, (visibly malnourished and likely suffering some brain damage) to do simple menial work cleaning a strip mall @ the $13 hourly wage. Seemingly pretty good $ for low skill and a number of shoplifting busts on her record. She never showed up on time, rarely did any work as if she was entitled to the pay as some gift for being alive. She showed up for work in flip flops after being told that was not acceptable. This is likely because as a single mother of 3, she gets welfare. She’s a casualty of that process and I honestly wonder how many more exist, 10’s of millions. We gave her clear warnings that her effort was unacceptable then fired her.
Yeah, back in the day when I envisioned a ‘Virginian’, it would a cavalier like Colonel Mosby, or the lean cowboy in Owen Wister’s novel, titled ‘The Virginian’.
Not so much anymore then, huh?
Brh
“She’s a casualty of that process and I honestly wonder how many more exist, 10’s of millions. ”
Declining health (evident in graves) was the hallmark of the birth of civilization. Hunter gatherers either flourished or died rather quickly, they did not hang on. Preventing deaths has created a problem.
Basically, figuring out a new balance is what the “Long Emergency” is about. It is apparent to many that the solution will in some form require an adjustment of population growth.
We will either do it spontaneously through war and disease, or consciously (vast government power, as in China, will be necessary for that). Probably there will be a combination of the two.
I cannot imagine that it will be fun.
That’s why all the bs about Eugenics is just BS. We do it or Nature does – and we could do it so much more efficiently and compassionately.
You’re right! Fire up those ovens boys.
What a dumb thing to say. Shame on you.
ha! Janos – offended!!! *faints*
I’m might be offended, but there’s no such thing as a bad or offensive fact. And I know you don’t get that or perhaps you just don’t want to? After all, slander is your stock and trade….
‘Slander is your stock in trade’
Please expand. You’re so full of yourself and your pseudo-intellectual racism. Please point out any ‘slanderous’ statements I e made.
Question, jerrydylan:
You say she was ‘visibly malnourished’. Can you clarify in what way? Was it is the ‘classic’ underfed, skinny-as-a-rake way or the modern ‘American’ way of being obese from over-ingestion of shitty food and empty calories?
If the first, it is more likely to be an eating disorder or a drug habit. It’s hard to find anyone actually HUNGRY in the USA today – malnourished, yes, but no-one ‘starves’.
As the status quo starts to fail on the scale it did in 2008, both parties won’t have much to offer. Like a cone from a pitch pine, as the old order burns new seeds will be ready to sprout from the ashes.
Looking to foster discussion at: http://www.reddit.com/r/GreenNationalism
I am listening to yoututbe.
I was warned about a movie called ‘Good Boys’ as it sexualizes
pre teens.
One more attempt from them to push the NAMBLA thingy.
That was the ad that appeared.
I just looked ‘Good Boys’ up on IMDB. Shit! Here is how the MPAA rated it: “Rated R for strong crude sexual content, drug and alcohol material, and language throughout – all involving tweens.” That is truly sad.
They seek to turn America into Weimar. And they are succeeding. Ready for a White Man on a White Horse yet?
“… the NAMBLA thingy.
That was the ad that appeared.”
Malthuss,
And you, again, are on another list….
I saw , this AM, that the BBC reports a super gonorrhea strain that has been found in the UK, apparently vectored by some contact in SE Asia.
After reading the report, I washed my hands. (Ewww, my computer keyboard…).
NAM ad didnt appear. Movie ad appeared.
The Long Wait that is presumably leading to the Long Emergency is generating a good deal of anxiety all by itself. Wobbling at the precipice indefinitely produces its own kind of exhaustion.
Some unity and cooperation toward a goal that better manages resources and expectations would be nice for our society. One of the reasons I began following this site the original context it proposed. The living arrangements we have in development styles, planning, materials; even social norms – does not lend toward unity and cooperation.
I think a good start is to begin reinforcing farming/food systems now. And put people up to living ashram style on the farm so their basic needs are met in exchange for food. It is not much by today’s standard, but it is better than living on Forest Service land, like I see across the West. AirBnb has squeezed the housing market hard out here. It was bad before but now people buy 6-7 homes and triple/quadruple their earnings with vacation rental as opposed to renting.
I get the whole thing here about chronicling the political collapse, but I feel we should focus more on using this platform to organize and share ideas that can improve local situations to a base of security for future expectations.
I would have said, Jeepers, Jim, more gloomy than usual, but actually you’re just telling it like it is, no gloom added. It’s simply consequences rounding the corner and heading our way, and finally the Thief of the World (USA) is seeing that train coming down the track.
Anyone happen to notice that the oil production graph on the EIA site has been finally noticeably dropping for 6 weeks?
No, but I have noticed the rig count is declining.
https://www.eia.gov/petroleum/production/#oil-tab
Jim : read the first paragraph from Karl’s latest Ticker. If this bill passes then what ?
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It’s not stopping with the 2016 election and its results either. There is a little-discussed provision being attached to defense and intelligence bills in Congress right now that would criminalize disclosure of any CIA “asset’s” identity. There already is such a law but it has an expiration date of five years after said asset leaves the covert service. This one has no expiration date and is insanely broad. I don’t think I need to go into how damning such a “law” would be; beyond potentially immunizing any CIA involvement in the 2016 election (of which there probably was much) it could conceivably be construed to cover Epstein and all of those who participated in the******of the girls being trafficked — including, quite possibly, those now in positions of political power.
This needs to be run to the ground and exposed all the way up and down the line. If it’s a handful of people inside these agencies who were responsible for this and it was not a decapitation strike aimed at the Republican Party, orchestrated throughout these agencies and in fact reaching all the way to the White House, then everyone involved need to be in prison, right now, and everyone associated with them asset-stripped to their literal underwear.
Unfortunately the preponderance of the evidence is rapidly piling up on the other side — this was not a handful of partisans in various agencies but instead was a coordinated, agency-wide attempt to prevent the lawful election of a President they did not like and when it happened anyway their actions continued in the form of felonies so serious that they in fact have destroyed the legitimacy of government itself. Worse, they’re now trying to cover it up and gain immunity for their criminal acts.
If this turns out to be what it appears to be we just had a modern rehash of Lexington and Concord, April 19th of 1775 and the world now awaits our judgment as a body politic. Will we acquiesce to our new status as A Banana Republic with nuclear weapons or will the people of this nation draft a second document that begins with those seven immortal words: When In The Course of Human Events.”
I knew we’d start to see some shenanigans by TPTB pretty soon in order to handle the Epstein arrest and all of the fallout which could expose many of TPTB. And here it is. More to come I’m sure.
***minor correct*** first paragraph from this excerpt.
Came here for peak oil, staying for the whimper.
>>> Sinister as it seems, the process was simply emergent
I disagree. Emergent properties are essentially a gestalt. They can’t be predicted by consideration of antecedents.
Globalism was planned and predicted well in advance. Ross Perot fired warning shots prior to the passage of NAFTA. And I’m sure we could dig up much earlier examples.
So how did pre-MAGA RINO globalists sell the benefits of “the job creators” to Americans when the jobs were all overseas? As you know and have written about many times: cheap plastic crap from Walmart.
The globalists didn’t have to sell the deplorables on the benefits of the “job creators”. They sold them with the old time religion: against gay marriage and for the right to life. In his 2004 State of the Union Address, Bush 43 lent his support to a constitutional amendment to ban marriage (which never passed). He did much better in November that year than he had four years earlier in spite of the war in Iraq. Bush 43 has been out of office for over a decade, but the effects of his policies live on.
You’re conflating support for Bush with support with NAFTA. Clinton also supported NAFTA. Al Gore also supported NAFTA. Even Ross Perot supported some form of NAFTA. He was just more vocal about the consequences. He saw it as a race to the bottom for labor rights and the environment. He would have made standards of living part of the trade deal consideration.
Clinton also gave China Most Favored nation status?
Gore got all that red money, as did Bill and Hitlery.
against gay marriage–why be for it??
and for the right to life.–see how US has declined since
ROWE WADE INC?
even the woman used [and I do mean used] as row wade test case spoke out against late abortion–she saw what was in the fridge..dead babies. In Texas.
“Most favored nation” China.
And let’s look at what China is doing in Hong Kong right now.
Hillary Clinton. How does she sleep at night? There is no amount of Chardonnay or Ambien that could help her.
“Emergent” maybe in the sense that the asswipes who engineered the destruction were slaves to dead economists.
But the puppet-masters pulling their strings are slaves to their own hubris.
“If the Democratic Party is acting batshit crazy about it now after the Mueller testimony fiasco, how will they react when dozens of their partisans are marched into court to face charges of sedition.” –JHK
That will happen only if Trump wants to get himself killed.
A group formed by Christian leaders warns against the rise of “Christian nationalism,” saying the merging of Christian and American identities poses a threat to U.S. democracy and religious communities.
“As Christians, we are bound to Christ, not by citizenship, but by faith,” Christians Against Christian Nationalism’s statement reads.
“Whether we worship at a church, mosque, synagogue, or temple, America has no second-class faiths. All are equal under the U.S. Constitution.”
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The statement is endorsed by at least 17 Christian leaders from various churches and organizations, according to the group’s website.
Cucktianity.
Our local Congregational Church has a permanent ‘Pride’ flag tacked up above its main entrance. Occassionally they invite the local Imam (yes, there is one) to come in and say a few words during sunday service.
This is the original Pilgrim Church, est. 1640.
I sh#t you not, CFNers.
Brh
local Imam (yes, there is one) –uh. Pal,
Muslims breed like rats.
I was somewhere today. Saw a very fat White gal with tatts..
of pentagrams, a chalice, knife.
Me–[gently] are you wicca???
her–[harshly] NO IM A WITCH.
Poor thing. fat w tatts and ‘a witch.’
Malthuss,
…poor thing. I’ll bet her mama never told her the basics…chew your food 20 times before swallowing, and always wipe front to back.
SOMETHING made her nuts…who knows?
Maybe, they’ll imitate the public libraries, and invite transvestites in full regalia to teach Sunday school to the kiddies. I’ll bet they have some unique perspectives to share.
The value of the dollar is fascinating.
Everyone knows it’s garbage, but it is considered the premier currency because it doesn’t stink as badly as the currencies of the other developed nations.
Plus the USA is sitting on the best large patch of real estate in the world. Whoever controls that has a leg up on everybody else (barring nuclear Armageddon).
Indeed. It’s what allowed us to become a hegemon following WW II.
As a kid, I used to play a game called Axis & Allies; even at that age, it was clear to me that our geographic position alone took care of about 80% of the threats a nation could potentially face.
“. The result will be much more severe political turbulence than the thinking class expects. It’s easy to imagine circumstances in which normal institutions get suspended and the old major parties are superseded by “emergency” seizures of power by other parties as yet unknown.”
Well, ladies and germs;
An excellent post by our host. But why the future tense? We are already experiencing the turbulence and suspensions…remember PG&E and their ability to arbitrarily cut power to populated regions? The state of California had to approve that method of fire prevention…remember…You on your own…they will offer you a stone-age existence, and you will goddamn well hunker down and like it.
The political turbulence is already of epic proportion…but the civil turbulence, the up close and personal, has yet to appear, save in the communities rife with “diversion”
I have said it more than once that riots would occur if the toilets stopped flushing…a minor inconvenience measured against hunger, cold and the grid failing/denied.
A bit of positive thinking, however, would marvel at the ability of the powers that be to keep the financial balls in the air for as long as they have. They are intelligent people, and perhaps they can keep doing so for years? Who knows. I know that the people with their hands on the levers of power are smarter than we think they are…certainly smarter than I.
You sell yourself way short. The people with their hands on the levers of power are many things but “smart” they aren’t. They think they’ll survive unscathed what they’re inflicting on the rest of us.
I join you in hoping they pay for their misdeeds, but they do have some hidey-holes deep inside mountains. Locations we don’t know. Or so the scuttlebutt runs.
Many of them plan to go to New Zealand.
I’ve been to Tauranga in the north, semi-tropical, beautiful place, The elite can probably live openly in NZ. Sunshine, sand and beaches have an appeal lacking in deep cave living. Did you know women become infertile after about 40 to 50 days in a cave? There are probably psychological down sides, too.
Women become infertile for the tiniest reasons.
Delicate creatures, they are.
Everything has to be JUST perfect for their reproductive systems to co-operate.
In fact, JHK’s piece opens with a quote from Peter Thiel who managed to finagle himself Kiwi citizenship after only 12 days on the islands:
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/indepth/national/how-peter-thiel-got-new-zealand-citizenship/
As has been pointed out before, New Zealand IS their ‘bunker’…no need for deep underground shelters.
https://www.google.com/search?q=peter+theil+new+zealand+citizen&oq=peter+theil+new+zealand+citizen&aqs=chrome..69i57j0.8783j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Until late 2016, New Zealand had a 9 year right-wing government, run by ex-Goldman Sachs foreign currency trader John Key and seemed to be surreptitiously sympathetic to ANYONE with a large cheque book and a decent command of the English Language to enter the country and bu whatever land/property they felt like. So, the fabled ‘deep state’ has its tentacles everywhere, I guess.
Since the election of a left-wing coalition government in 2016, foreign nationals can no longer buy existing properties (though they can build new, because the housing market needs to expand to meet current demand overload).
https://www.yahoo.com/news/boy-8-dies-being-pushed-front-german-train-155232231.html
An Eritrean. Eritrea is about half Muslim and half Christian I believe. So it could be either the Jihad or just generic hatred, either Racial or National (if a distinction is even made by people like this). Remember, he expected to be given a blonde girlfriend and a Rolls Royce upon entry.
The receiver of charity often hates the hand that feeds him. In other words, he might have hated even more if he had been given the Rolls and the Moll. Look at Ilhan Omar.
Janos,
And did not those good German Boys collar the SOB at the scene? Apparently civilization still lurks in the Fatherland….
Yeah I noticed that too. Maybe they have Fight Clubs.
This shit happens all the time here now. I actually reminded my wife and kid to stay back from the tracks at Köln Hbf today. In this past, such a thought never would have even crossed my mind.
Might as well have stayed in crime-ridden DC.
Ingrates, yes, in the past I learned some resent those who help them.
the helper serves as a reminder of the incompetence of the beneficiary.
I keep getting a REPATHA ad at Youtube.
Its a medicine. The ad is a party with blatant race mixing. Guess the genders and races of the pair.
…or, Occam’s Razor, he’s just bat-shit crazy first & foremost…then, co-incidentally a Muslim (possibly – 50/50 he’s a Christian) & a refugee (probably). But that wouldn’t suit your ‘take’ on things, would it Janos?
“American exceptionalism has led to a country that is exceptionally un-self-aware.” — Peter Thiel
Un-self aware. No shit.
The un-self-aware are un-aware of how they come across, how others see them. The Republicans don’t matter, a little bit of rough handling from Trump and those despicable and disreputable cranks up and died. They’re history. And good riddance. What remains of the walking-dead remains may be called “Republican” but it ain’t.
But then astoundingly Trump beat the Democrats. What he had wasn’t much but it was enough. How the fuck did THAT happen? Ridiculous you say? It is but that’s the lamentable state of the political realm in the USA.
It really wouldn’t matter if the Democrats further covered themselves in ridiculousness with this three years of Russia-gate and likewise their basking in the fervent admiration of their fucking idiot followers if only the Chinese weren’t watching. But they ARE watching. The Chinese and some even shittier regimes observe and take the measure of the American ruling class and what they see is laughable.
It’s worse than laughable, it’s hideous. Chuck? Nancy? Biden? AOC? Mayor Pete? Gimme a fuckin’ break. Are these guys the alternative? This is a disaster. But these are the nit-wits aspiring to national leadership.
Of course, emceeing this shit-show is the howlingly incompetent Deep State that couldn’t get the better of Trump and his few and far-between followers in the halls of power. Trump beat them too. It is mind-boggling.
But it’s worse than merely mind-boggling because this has real-world consequences. Does anyone think that this colossal Russia-gate fuck-up wasn’t lost on the world’s predators? Those of us observing from this side of the pond avert our eyes in horror and embarrassment but it’s made worse by the sure knowledge that the Chinese counter-part to the American Deep State is carefully assessing their opponents’ capabilities or lack thereof. What this portends only becomes known as events unfold.
Never mind a bumbling, fumbling Deep State that fubars daily. If you want global instability the other way to go about it is to move your industrial back-bone to a foreign adversary, you impoverish your own citizens, you openly despise them, you tell the world that their citizenship is worthless, you tell the world that your national borders don’t matter.
Anybody with a stitch of sense knows that this isn’t the route to a peaceful international order, it’s the opposite. But tell that to the thinking-class. I guess they gave up thinking. Probably long ago.
“Americans don’t learn lessons. It’s part of our charm.” –Gore Vidal
Trump didn’t “just beat the Democrats”.
He, the reality show hawksman, beat THE QUEEN!.
And now, here we are.
But tell that to the thinking-class. I guess they gave up thinking. Probably long ago.
Ideology is a powerful cocktail. Drink up, folks. But will Barry pay the Barr tab?
I know, I know. Silly me and my dreams of justice meted out without regard to one’s standing in society.
Cheers
Yes, ideology sure is a powerful cocktail.
Reality testing is what we do on a daily basis. It’s hard, it’s stressful, and it’s not an empty exercise as your survival depends on it.
But an ideology is no more than a framework of ideas which ostensibly have a useful connection to the real world, which, if we adopt this framework, makes life easier, and stands to make us successful, healthy, wealthy etc.
So, ideology has supposedly been been reality-tested, which can save an individual a lot of time and trouble as he doesn’t have to recreate the wheel so to speak, someone else already having done the hard work.
The problem with a system of pre-chewed ideas is whether or not they really do have a useful connection to the real world. This consideration seems to take a back seat to the feeling of community that people get from associating with their fellow believers, the comfort of thinking that all these people can’t be wrong.
But what if the ideas haven’t been reality tested? What if adopting and enacting all these ideas confers no useful advantage? What if it’s actually the opposite? What if all these points are just a means to procure advantage for a certain few? Republican ideology for example…
Will Barry pay the Barr tab? (that’s funny). Don’t get your hopes up.
But what if the ideas haven’t been reality tested? What if adopting and enacting all these ideas confers no useful advantage? What if it’s actually the opposite? What if all these points are just a means to procure advantage for a certain few? Republican ideology for example…
Volodya, there seems, as well, to always be groups within society that are determined to upset the apple-cart, no matter how apparently well things are. So even if society has a functional dominant ideology, there are those who seek to undermine it for reasons of their own — power seeking and so on.
The two dominant ideologies in the USA (as far as I can tell) both suffer from lack of firm grounding, although IMO the ideas being pushed by the Dem Party are the more unrealistic.
As you have mentioned, and JHK has gone on at length about, at some point, reality will demand its due. The degree of division in our society will then become a terrible burden vice the political sideshow it is today.
Cheers
“Now that college diplomas have lost their scarcity value, and developed-world work forces are over-credentialed, the value of higher education credentials and those who issue them has declined accordingly. In a global economy with an abundance of over-credentialed workers, the claim that more education creates more value is no longer valid.” —- Charles Hugh Smith 7/29/19
When I went to engineering school at a state university back in the early 70’s, the cost of tuition for one semester was $350 and the cost of room and board was also $350. In the summer, by building fences for $2/hr. + overtime, I earned enough money to pay tuition and room/board for one semester. Today, at the same university, the cost of tuition/room and board for one semester is $26,000. Earning that over one summer would require a hell of a lot of OT!.
The Obama era student loan program was enacted to keep the economy going just like low interest rates. This program became a bonanza for university officials and professors. Becasue colleges are also in the entertainment business, many new areans and stadiums also got built with this money.
We,Baby Boomers can expect and demand that overqualified Millenials and Gen Xers, who are workingat low paying jobs and struggling to make ends meet, pay back their studentdebts in full, but, who is going to buy our old houses, when we decide to cash out and move to assisted-living. An economy and money suppy created by debt (digits on a bank computer), has to have borrowers or it dies a miseable death..
Old Pappa Joe Biden, reputed champion of the working man,author of the “3 Strikes and You’re Out Crime Bill”that filled prisons with nonvilent offenders and the rights-stripping Patriot Act, was also instrumental in denying student loan forgiveness via bankruptcy. He is the Gray Champion of the Democratic Party that’s supposedly going to save us. Huh?
For all those sweating bullets over a trillion dollars in student loans, check out Catherine Austin Fitts/ Dr. Mark Skidmore at Solari Report.com. Dr. Skidmore, using official online government financial records, determined that between 1998 and 2015, $21 trillion was passsed from the Treasury through the DOD and HUD, tabulated as “undocumentable djustments”, to somewhere unknown The total amount of dark money that has passed through government agencies this way could now be over $50 trillion. In response, rather than being candid, the federal government removed their online financials and is no longer required to provide acuurate financials deeming the budget as a matter of national security.
I betcha that won’t be a debate question from the CNN hosts!
He is the Gray Champion of the Democratic Party that’s supposedly going to save us. Huh?
My thoughts exactly. I wonder if he’ll at least reign in his “sniffy-fondly” behavior towards young women should he secure the nomination? That he would be looked to as Our Deliverer From Trumpism is both funny and sad enough to be a comedy-sketch from the old “Carol Burnett Show”! 😀
Yes it’s difficult to understand where Biden’s support is coming from given everything you’ve pointed out (not to mention his creepy groping, and the fact that his personality is strikingly similar to Trump’s). One data point…
When I talk to retired folk, I’m often surprised to learn that they don’t follow the news much at all. It’s like time stopped for them politically many decades ago. They consider Dems pro labor—even though Dems worked hand in hand with RINOs to destroy labor is the USA. Anyway, point is, they either consciously or unconsciously reject any new sources of data to undermine their decades-old beliefs.
I think Biden may be benefitting from that.
Yeah, sometimes I think my mother’s clock stopped in 1974, and my older brother’s stopped in 1994. Perhaps my clock stopped in 2016, because sometimes I wonder if this is Hell and our punishment is for it to be 2016 for-fucking-ever. 🙁
The Mayan 2012 calendar business is not so funny in 2019…
The “debates” will be such a clusterfuck, that I am tempted to just watch “the highlights” (cough!!).
BuckP,
Salient point. As a millennial I don’t blame the boomers. A majority of the boomers I know busted their butts and often still do!
Yet, it must be said, indeed, the game got switched.
Still, economic contraction is a little hard to imagine from where I sit at the moment, sun shining, fishing for striper bass off this pier, boats large and small navigating down the channel heading for open water in LI Sound, Amtrak passenger trains gliding by on nearby tracks, and across the channel people drinking and clinking glasses on a rooftop oceanside bar.
I’m thinking right now of headed to that bar in an hour or so for sn early dinner, and a few nice cool mugs of Sam Adams.
Really Jim economic contraction is not that bad, so far. I realize things may grow worse.
Brh
You must be well off. That would explain everything. Enjoy it while it lasts.
That’s all anyone can really do at this late date, isn’t it?
“You must be well off”
Nick O Demus
Have you not been watching? BRH has earlier stated that he lived in the same neighborhood as Mike Tyson…
In law enforcement, we call that a “clue”….
Good attitude brh!
The most important thing is good health and enjoying each day as it comes. It’s 111F here in Vegas and I’m about to dodge a few grasshoppers and head down to the pool. Trying to find the truth by researching what is really happening in the world is an exhausting, worthwhile endeavor but we have to take good care of ourselves first.
Pompous Twit.
The truth is out there!
Live well and prosper!
Police ruthlessly cracks down on protestors on the streets of Moscow
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“Off-shoring” US industry jacked up corporate profits while it decimated working class livelihoods. In return, that large demographic got “bargain shopping” at Walmart, a life of ever-upward revolving debt, and dead downtowns.
Democrats tried to stop outsourcing. Republicans voted to keep it.
In 2017 when the House Ways and Means Committee debated the Criminal Trump tax cut bill, Republicans voted down the “Stop Outsourcing of American Jobs” amendment offered by Rep. Lloyd Doggett (D-Texas).
The “Stop Outsourcing of American Jobs” amendment would have required that multinational corporations looking to invest offshore pay the same tax rate as small businesses or domestic companies investing here in America. The amendment was defeated on a party-line vote, with 16 Democrats voting in favor and 23 Republicans voting against.
It is true there is not a dime’s worth of difference between Republicans and Democrats because the outsourcing taxation difference is more than a dime. In the case of Criminal Trump’s tax cut bill the difference is $100 BILLION a year… decimating America’s small businesses.
Criminal Trump is for himself and his billionaire friends, not for America.
This is what Rep. Doggett had to say in support of his amendment:
“President Trump has made stopping the outsourcing of American jobs a central element of his promise to the American people. Unfortunately, like his promise to have Mexico pay for his unnecessary wall, it’s very much a broken promise.
“It is flat wrong that the corner pharmacy should have to pay a rate that is substantially higher on its operations than Pfizer on its operations. My amendment ensures that both are treated the same way–that we tax profits earned abroad the same way that they are taxed here at home.
“All my amendment does is treat people who earn profits abroad the same way as those who earn profits at home. We’re not against profits; we’re not against maximizing profits; just pay your fair share. When you set up a system, as has been done in this bill, that creates one rate abroad that could be zero and at home it is 20 percent, guess where this money is going to flow? It will flow out of America, just like the jobs will flow out of America.
“If you believe in keeping our jobs at home, and believe we have lost too many already, don’t create a system that the only jobs that it will add are more tax lawyers and more CPAs to find ways to dodge taxes. They have dodged enough. They have dodged $100 billion a year.”
Good points, dee.
>>> Democrats tried to stop outsourcing.
What nonsense! So Dems suddenly became aware of the problem after Trump was elected? After eight years of Obama? After eight years of Clinton?
Clinton doubled H-1B caps. “Hope and Change” Obama did nothing to decrease them. And Trump…?
President Donald Trump’s promised crackdown on the H-1B visa had a dramatic impact last year, according to recently released federal data that shows immigration officials denied nearly one out of every four requests for new visas for skilled foreign workers.
That’s the highest denial rate for new H-1B visa applications in nearly 10 years and almost double the 13 percent rate in the prior fiscal year.
Meanwhile, companies have already shifted from outsourcing to offshoring, so they can avoid this conversation altogether.
Typical….You managed to exclude the 8 years of Shrub. Who’s a one-eyed asshole? Exscotticus.
Of course I excluded Bush. He’s a RINO. Do you want me to include him as an example of a Democrat? Because they have more in common with Dems than with Trump.
That initially seemed like a razor-fine parsing of the statement you were responding to, but I see on second reading you’re correct.
However, the RINO trope is a little jaded isn’t it? First it was the Tea-Baggers throwing it around, but they turned out to be a bunch of useless no-hopers after all.
Now, you’re saying Unindicted Citizen 1 is a REAL REPUBLICAN..? That’s delusion BS and, deep-down, you know it too.
>>> Now, you’re saying Unindicted Citizen 1 is a REAL REPUBLICAN..?
Read my posts. I don’t glorify Republicans; I defend Trump’s policies. It’s convenient for you to ignore the fact that Trump is clearly not a RINO, and has little in common with Moral Majority Republicans of yore, probably because you’re a white-hating racist or something along those lines, and don’t see any distinction between one white guy or another. But the fact is that Trump has more in common with old-school 1970s liberals than with either RINOs or the current crop of violent Antifa-loving Dems.
>>> Unindicted Citizen 1
What was that you said? “That’s delusion BS and, deep-down, you know it too.”
Reposting for legibility…
>>> Democrats tried to stop outsourcing.
What nonsense! So Dems suddenly became aware of the problem after Trump was elected? After eight years of Obama? After eight years of Clinton?
Clinton doubled H-1B caps. “Hope and Change” Obama did nothing to decrease them. And Trump…?
President Donald Trump’s promised crackdown on the H-1B visa had a dramatic impact last year, according to recently released federal data that shows immigration officials denied nearly one out of every four requests for new visas for skilled foreign workers.
That’s the highest denial rate for new H-1B visa applications in nearly 10 years and almost double the 13 percent rate in the prior fiscal year.
Meanwhile, companies have already shifted from outsourcing to offshoring, so they can avoid this conversation altogether.
You left “W” off the honor roll. He spent a trillion or so in Iraq, AND ran us into the ground at the same, along with the Republican majority in the House and Senate. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not excusing the Democrats, they’ve done plenty of damage as well.
I agree. You won’t find me defending Bush Senior, Bush Junior, or any other RINO.
But the attack was against the current adminstration: TRUMP.
And janet was trying to make the case that Dems care more about American workers than Trump. Even as Dems fight for open borders that undermine American workers.
Clinton signed NAFTA into law. Reps and Dems alike serve globalism.
The check from Media Matters is in the mail.
Anyone else notice the mainstream media suddenly showing multiple attacks on whites by gangs of “teens”! Something we’ve all known for years out here in webworld. Actually showing film. Something big is out, and they want us looking elsewhere.
Or maybe they’re noticing their loss of revenue as people go elsewhere for their news and entertainment (if there’s a difference). Politicians can pander to the underclass because they can vote, but the media lives off advertising to people with money to spend.
CNN’s financial troubles are getting their attention. I’ve long ago disconnected from the box although my wife still watches.
Opie
Polar Bear hunting and the knockout game has been around for awhile. The MSM is just catching on apparently after years of actively denying it was happening.
Guess who the polar bears are, and whos getting knocked out.
Now guess who the hunters are, and whos doing the knocking out.
Brh
An important development of Military Operations on the North American War of the War of the Roses
Trump fired the head of all US intelligence services and nominated the same congressman, whom I wrote about in a post “Jogging chicken without a head and a Big Bargain”, that he dealt a decisive blow to the interrogation of Mueller = chopped off the chicken’s head.
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/what-goes-around/#comment-431211
And this appointment confirms a lot of things, but first of all a connection of Mueller interrogation to Huma Abedin in the above post, her pedophile husband and, accordingly, Jeffrey Epstein and an attempt to Arkancide him on the eve of the Mueller’s interrogation in Congress, since Epstein’s arrest was undoubtedly Trump’s answer to those who tried kill Putin on July 1.
This is not yet a strategic offensive on the North American front of the War of the Roses, but already reconnaissance in force, which has outgrown into a deep raid on the enemy’s rear.
P.S. An important development of Military Operations on the North American War of the War of the Roses should read as
An important development of Military Operations on the North American Front of the War of the Roses
PPS. The post “Running rooster with a severed head and prospect for Russian-American relationships” despite the apparent contradiction, perfectly correlates with the sudden transformation of Russophobe Pompeo into a complete Russophile, and I will definitely write about this transformation tomorrow.
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/a-purview-of-dust/#comment-431615
Thank God the Manhattan jail cell where Epstein is currently being housed (8’x8’ rat and black mold infested hell hole) is being monitored by cameras 24/7 as he is on “suicide watch”.
My reading was that when his cop cell mate (who murdered four men and buried them on his NY upstate farm) found him, he was in a fetal position and was blubbering crying.
Epstein, the proven pedophile, who claimed that taking underage girls and having sex with them was tantamount to “stealing a bagel”.
The international community NEEDS for Epstein to stand trial and for ALL witnesses to be deposed (including former president Bill Clinton, Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz, among MANY others).
Let those 24/7 surveillance cameras roll on Epstein and I hope his “next” bail hearing is denied!
Is murder our new commodity, now being so prevalently home grown that it’s being exported, in this case to Italy?
Can we grow a futures market in murder? Garlic growers were doing okay under the tariffs, so maybe the Gilroy shootings were carried out by some jealous soybean grower.
It would be a new ‘Murder, Inc.’ The supply is plentiful, with gigantic opportunities for global growth coming up. Competent, influential, but bloodthirsty lobbyists would be needed to overcome the legal hurdles. Hey, ‘Silk Road’ gave it a try.
Encrypted murder contracts taken out worldwide and paid for with hit coin.
TS
If only we could resurrect Legs Diamond and Dutch Schultz, clean out the Bronx and Brooklyn like in days of yore,
The speakeasy is now a hipster bar selling craft beer and fruit drinks. Legs stashed a Chicago typewriter (a tommy gun) in the backroom of this joint back in ’28. He wanted it back.
“Hey Mack”, said Legs to the bartender, a Brooklyn hipster wearing skinny jeans, sneakers, earrings and a manbun. “I stashed a gat in the backroom, is it still there”.
“A gat”?, asked the hipster, puzzled.
“Yeah, my Thompson”, said Legs.,
“We’ve only been open 2 weeks”, said the bartender.
“Give us two beers”, says Dutch.
“That’ll be $20” says the bartender.
Dutch was shocked, an Andy Jackson for two brews? Should be two bits. Its highway robbery! Dutch gives a sideglance to Legs and they draw their S&W .38s from their vests and start squeezing off rounds in the direction of the hipster bartender. They leave the bar and start walking toward Brooklyn Bridge, looking for the old gang.
Brh
FRED AIN’T DEAD….
He is now posting, almost weekly, at the Unz Review;
http://www.unz.com/freed/democrats-for-trump-2020/
As usual, this should bring tears to your tired eyes….
A bunch of meaningless words heaped on top of each other in some mind-boggling semantic salto-mortale. And he thinks that he’s so smarter than the President.
You find it amusing?
That’s rich, Finca, given your continuously posting of “bunches of meaningless words heaped on top of each other in some mind-boggling semantic salto-mortale.”
Heh..heh..heh. Yep.
He is an amazing wacko, no?
Simply an amazing wacko.
Probably…I don’t think I’ve ever had the necessary energy to get to the END of any one of his posts.
They read like so many Conspiracy website posts, with an unstated underlying assumption that you, the Reader, already ‘know’ what they’re on about (wink, wink) when in fact it’s all freaking double-dutch.
Majella,
I could never relate to FOE the way I can relate to JHK and the comment section here.
I never got him.
Sorry, Malthus -who is ‘FOE’ ?
“…who is ‘FOE’ ?”
Fred On Everything, Fred Reed’s blog.
A semitic salto mortale. He’s one of yours….
He chooses a very different line of attack is all. You should be more tolerant.
..and BTW, most people are smarter than THIS joke president, (with some notable exceptions on this site)
But…but….but he went to Wharton!
(Yes notable exceptions on this site are certainly noted).
Yes, Wharton!!!
Back in the 60’s when all you needed was a rich daddy and a pulse to get in.
And then he claimed to be top of his class. Wow…let’s see his transcripts!
A simple list of Trump’s accomplishments has you butthurt enough to post on the subject over multiple topics.
I love it. Gamma male.
Post it, Nightowl. That’s you dared.
I’m butthurt Nightowl. Oh methinks you project too much. I was simply having fun making fun of your cult hero. You are the one who gets his panties twisted up when anyone does that. You precious widdle Trump snowflake. Trumpflake. Should I give trigger warnings for you precious?
To you and the MSM Trump is just some shit talking, vulgar, bigoted idiot. Yet his enemies are now falling into the traps they laid for him. If he’s an idiot, he’s at least a lucky one with God on his side.
They can’t think beyond Trump’s tweets — which are carefully crafted to bait rubes.
I saw one of the Trump haters on this site was criticizing him for using all capital letters in some of his tweets. Do you think Mr. Nadler, if he has the time between meals, will add that to the articles of impeachment?
Finc,
You are OFF YOUR MEDS one more night!!
Please take them every 4 hours as your psychiatrist ordered.
Your Mother and Sister have implored you to follow the routine!
Take your Meds Now!!
Kamaraden Finc!
…Yes, I do find Fred amusing…and regularly so. His prose probably just doesn’t translate well into your mother tongue…
Smarter than the President? Who knows? Maybe. What I can offer on the subject is that Fred’s observations on the social order seem to be in sync with mine…and I find his posts entertaining.
.
Wow! Thanks EF. Never heard of this guy…
“the Great Double-Wide on Pennsylvania Avenue”…!
To appreciate Fred you need to go to his blog and check out his archives from about 10 years back and more, when he was living in the US and still active and somewhat healthy. He is now almost blind, living in Mexico with a Mexican wife (whose point of view seems to have “mellowed” him), and struggling a bit.
He still comes out with some perceptive points, but has lost his edge and his focus.
Ah, right…Fred Reed. I recall his writing a eulogy to my first & favorite American Redneck Liberal, Joe Bageant (RIP 2011).
https://joebageant.wordpress.com/
https://joebageant.wordpress.com/2011/03/29/joe-bageant-bageant-moves-on-by-fred-reed/
Fred explained:
“Most who have heard of him have done so through his books, Deer Hunting with Jesus: Dispatches from America’s Class War, and Rainbow Pie: A Redneck Memoir. Deer Hunting is a curious work, a sleeper, that you can read the first time without noticing that it deserves a high place in American letters. He tells of that huge class of unnoticed people in America, the white underclass of a thousand small towns and countryscapes, of Winchester, Virginia where he lived and by implication to Waldorf, Maryland and King George, Virginia and, well, all over the Carolinas and the Cumberland Plateau and … everywhere. America thinks it is a middle-class country. It isn’t. Joe knew.”
Joe Bageant was a great American and an awesome writer. His essays are archived (http://www.coldtype.net/joe.html).
Classics like “Waltzing at the Doomsday Ball: Capitalism is dead but we still dace with the corpse.”
(http://www.coldtype.net/Assets.10/Pdfs/0710.Joe.Doomsday.pdf)
I think I’d know how Joe, a committed liberal – who was for unions, free healthcare, fair wages & community equality – would take Trump: he’d admire the fact that he so effectively (if accidentally) exploited the ‘deplorables’ (which Joe would have most certainly seen himself among) but be pretty pissed off that he (Trump) is all piss & wind.
Here’s one essay for the hmuller, Nightowl, Tate, JohnAZ & Exscotticus cabal – his take on the Democratic Party:
“Pissing in the Liberal Punch Bowl Again”
“Saw the talking heads today, speaking the priestly tongue. Saw them nodding seriously, using words like ‘gravitas’ and a few others that originated in the bosom of Americana.
Heard one of the newly elected basically state that things would be business as usual, don’t expect a lot of changes. Rather scornfully and testily the idea of impeaching W was dismissed. Well, why the hell not? No answer, just the satisfied, mildly contemptuous smile. Oh, yes, and there’ll be a lot of ‘bipartisan’ things going on.”
– Key Bugle, Internet denizen, retired army sergeant
http://www.coldtype.net/Assets.07/Essays/0107.JoePunch.pdf
Cabal? LOL.
There is no blindness like the blindness of an ideological zealot.
Achtung! Members of “the cabal” will be meeting at the coffee shop at fifteen forty-five. Be there or be shot!
Yavol! Herr Commandant. There ve vill coordinate our activities for the coming JHK post.
It isn’t that some Democrats (and many Independents) will be voting FOR Trump.
They will be voting (as they did in 2016) AGAINST any Democrat!
After the Durham investigation comes out, it will become crystal clear to the American voters which party is the most corrupt.
The DNC needs a MAJOR overhaul or the party needs to just go bye-bye.
Good riddance!
Trump already pulled in a good portion of the Bernie block in 2016, right after Bernie exposed himself as a fraud. I almost voted for that hack, too.
Trump will pull in even more indy support this time around.
It’s astounding to me to view the field of Democratic hopefuls and see such a clown show of freaks, brainless zombies, and old-school grifters. Where is the intelligence, the leadership, the charisma?
Dominic Demarco 1 week ago
The dad realized the day is here that
his daughter is marrying a black guy and almost drops dead.
Then he takes the medicine to get numb/high and everything is ok
lol. Funniest commercial eve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ncjfF4iVgFg
jawtek82 jawtek821 month ago
Every other TV commercial comes with a mudshark
Magellan, who was Portuguese, basically defected to Spain. King Manuel of Portugal was always shafting Magellan. Magellan couldn’t take it any more, so Magellan grabbed all of the top secret Portuguese nautical maps and then defected to Spain. What can you do?
Those were the days.
Magellan to King Charles of Spain: “You’ll give me 5% of anything in the world that I discover?”
King Charles: “If it’ll help to make me the next king of the Holy Roman Empire, then sure…why-the-Hell not?”
Have you ever considered “Defecting”?
I think that this question together with my photo would make a great road side Billboard somewhere?
Laurence Bergreen
Over the Edge of the World: Magellan’s Terrifying Circumnavigation of the Globe
Thats Ok. Columbus wanted for his family members to be appointed governors of the western hemisphere, in perpituity, till the end of time. The King said sure, I can do that. So Columbus dropped off his brother in what is now Haiti, with 100 colonists. When he returned 2 years later they had disappeared without a trace, the first lost colony.
Brh
. When he returned 2 years later they had disappeared without a trace…
BRH,
…Yum….
I remember learning in first grade that Magellan “circumcised the world”, and wondering about that.
“I remember learning in first grade that Magellan “circumcised the world”, and wondering about that.”
hmuller,
And Moses circumnavigated it, also….
“The Technological Society” by Jacques Ellul.
Some Algorithm just sent me this message:
“Hi Pucker
We’re pleased to let you know that your order is winging its way to you, and is due for delivery according to the times below. “
There’s talk that they’ll start using drones that will buzz down over you while you’re drinking iced tea in a lawn chair in your backyard and then drop the book in front of you, take your picture, and then fly away. That’ll be really annoying. I’m surprised that more people don’t “Lose It”.
“What nonsense! So Dems suddenly became aware of the problem after Trump was elected? After eight years of Obama? After eight years of Clinton?” –Ex
You are saying Dems started it? That completely misses my point.
In 2017 Dems tried to stop outsourcing by following Criminal Trump’s America First principles. The Republicans voted for outsourcing.
Show me one vote in recent history (last 40 years, since Reagan) when Republicans ever tried to stop outsourcing. If you can’t link to a Republican vote against outsourcing, it didn’t happen. When did Republicans ever vote to level the playing field between small business and outsourced multinationals?
Trump was mouthing the words “America First” in 2017 and Dems made him eat those words. I say to Criminal Trump: put up or shut up. Your words mean nothing. Where is your legislation?
>>> You are saying Dems started it?
Nope. I’m saying Dems increased it under Clinton, and did nothing about it under Obama. And for two of Obama’s years, Dems controlled Congress and the Exec, and could have pushed through any legislation they wanted (which is how Obamacare became law without a single Republican vote).
Of course RINOs support outsourcing. When did I ever say otherwise?
I already posted proof that H-1B denial rates are soaring under Trump. Want more? And more? And more?
Don’t even try to push the ridiculous narrative that Trump isn’t trying. He’s succeeding despite the fact that the House only seems to want to embarrass itself with more collusion nonsense.
Yup, Trump’s a financial genius alright. Six bankruptcies. How do you bankrupt a casino?
About a half dozen casinos went bankrupt in Atlantic City in the past 10 years or so.
Once gambling was legalized in Pennsylvania, it was the kiss of death for AC. I should know. I have family in South Jersey who have seen the decline in job opportunities brought on by the closing of AC casinos.
>>> How do you bankrupt a casino?
You tell me.
Is attacking Trump’s personal life as a citizen all you’ve got? You do realize he’s been Prez for several years now. Maybe focus your attention there?
Trump is the antithesis of what I expect in a president. Unfortunately, none of them have met my expectations lately. Trump presents a real danger to our Democracy in my view, and is a clear sign of the continuing downward spiral of our country as we wend our way towards collapse. Face it, The country is corrupt at both ends of the spectrum, and the one percenters are gonna squeeze us dry and leave us to pick shit with the chickens.
“How do you bankrupt a casino?”
Ex,
Probably by failing to control the skim. The Casino is in New Jersey? Probably those fucking Mormon’s….
Skim it.
“And for two of Obama’s years, Dems controlled Congress and the Exec, and could have pushed through any legislation they wanted”
Now, substitute ‘Trump’ for ‘Obama’ & ‘GOPhers’ for ‘Dems’, and explain to me why there’s no ‘great beautiful WALL’, no ‘beautiful, wonderful healthcare for EVERYBODY and cheaper!’ (to name a couple of the most obvious FAILS of this Clown President)?
>>> and explain to me why there’s no ‘great beautiful WALL
That’s easy: Dems, RINOs, and liberal judges. From 2017-2018, Republicans controlled the Senate in name only, as there were several Senators who were ideologically liberal and opposed the wall, including Susan Collins and Jeff Flake. Also recall that Trump did everything he could—even to the point of shutting down the government, the longest such shutdown in American history.
But don’t you worry, janet! SCOTUS has slapped down the barriers and the wall is being built.
My Brother’s big philosophical question growing up was: Why don’t people shoot at the Goodyear Blimp?
Footnote: It was common for the Goodyear blimp to show up for football games.
It was a common knee jerk reaction of the Natives when they first saw the ships of the early Explorers, like Magellan, Cortes, Captain Cook, etc., to run out and shoot arrows, Spears, darts and other projectiles at the invaders. The Natives would have also fired lethal projectiles at the Goodyear Blimp, if it had showed up over their villages with it’s big annoying flashing advertising sign. If you really want to fuck up the Natives, then give ‘em TV.
Blimps? My god don’t give AOC any ideas…
“It’s nothing. It’s nothing.”
– Archduke Franz Ferdinand.
It is only a scratch. But tomorrow I will be a grave man.
Mercutio
Leave the gun, take the cannoli. – Clemenza
Trump finally mentioned Whites in a tweet saying, Al Sharpton is a con man. Hates Whites and Cops.
We’re the Cop Race. All this shit about King Elijah and his rat infested district is pure Gold for our Cause. Apparently the Group Mind is again going to vote for Trump. Anglin has been promised Kathy Zhu if he can get Trump in office again. The ultimate Asian Waifu Doll.
Who am I to stand against the Group Mind? Yes, we’re going to be taken for a ride and then dumped out just like last time. But America will be the weaker and Whites the wiser after it’s all over with. And Blacks and Browns the angrier. All very good. What is toppling can be pushed…..
I have to fully agree with this week’s foreboding outlook on our shared economic future. The great deflation of the Greenspan Put asset inflation era of profligate spending & debt accumulation has finally flipped to deflation and likely rupture of the $1.8 quadrillion dollar USD dark pool derivatives universe will unequivocally implode the entire Western empire of Fractional Reserve Banking.
Life will most assuredly not be as we have it now. Each week I am starting to realize that you are getting ever closer to being completely correct in your hypothesis, Jim.
I understand you better each week now. It took a while but I’m starting to think we are fairly likeminded now.
RW
Money. It is the transfer of energy. Money is meant to be spent.
Go shopping, treat yourself to a good meal. Tip the waiter.
Enjoy the fact that you have lived another day.
Stop the worry about things which you can not control.
Live for the day. Get a few moments of joy into your sorry lives.
High velocity energy. I can dig it. They say living well is the best revenge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnFZsrs32Co
Soubds like the Gin Blossoms’ from about 20 years ago.
Don’t get ’em!
No, the band. I think they were from Arizona actually. Sounded like The Grassroots.
“The past is gone, but something might be found to take its place.”
BackRowHeckler,
Grassroots – “Let’s Live For Today”, has always been a guilty pleasure of mine.
I have a memory revolving around this song that could likely be one of my last thoughts before departing this mortal coil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5NtzB-voZo
*Live for Today AND plan for the future to the best of one’s abilities.
The news readers shake their heads in amazement as they read how Trump called Cummings a racist. Does he know that only Whites can be racist? Doesn’t he watch “the news”?
Never have I seen this steadfastness in telling it like it is. Do not backtrack. Double, triple, quadruple down and more. Fire the arrows, stick ’em with their own spears. Make up for the lost years.
Hail the Mighty Trump! Generalissimo of Gotham!
Yes! No apologies, no retreats! And Joyless Behar was quick to say its impossible for Black people to be racist. I wonder if her opinion would change if she broke down in the Fairfield neighborhood of Baltimore at night?
Every race is capable of racism. No exceptions.
“Every race is capable of racism.”
Captain,
…Not capable, culpable.
Yes, I agree with you. A certain level of racism is natural and expected. The problem is that healthy racism is forbidden for Whites but encouraged essentially for all others complete with special months of cultural celebration and ethnic pride. And non-Whites are allowed to form exclusive social groups and associations. So I would say non-Whites tend to be more racist even though racism is a White people thing according to the “experts”.
If only Whites can be racist, then that is putting Non-White above us morally speaking in an all important way – since “racism” is the primal sin. In other words, Whites are spiritually fallen but others are not. In case you don’t realize it, this bodes very ill for the future, setting us up for some future genocide.
Challenge non-Whites on this: If Whites are Evil, why do they want to live with us, work with us, or even hang out with us. What does that say about them?
Yeah I remember a hit dance pop song when I was in Junior High in the late 70s. It went like this….
“Won’t you take me to….Honky Town! Won’t you take me to Honky Town! Won’t you take me to….Honky Town”
I remember the version sung by “Jesse and The Blood Stained Shirts” – Won’t you take me to Haimy Town
(You have to be really old to get that joke.)
I get it!
Jesse Jackson.
Blood stained shirt in Memphis, which he waved constantly back in the day.
Then the notorious line from him, “It’s so good to be back in Haimy Town” when he was giving an address in NYC.
(I think he said Columbia Jewniversity too…Lol…)
The man really had a gift for puns. But since he was Black, we all laughed, and he brought us closer together. (Bull Shit)
Throughout the 90s I listened to Rush almost daily. (He was a lot more fun then). And one of the things Rush did was to pronounce words exactly the same way Jesse did in order to not be a racist. Lol…
For example, Jesse pronounced Cuomo “Coomo”, so anytime Mario Coumo was in the news Rush would say “Mario Coomo”.
I think he also at times called NYC “Haimy Town” explaining that is what Jesse Jackson calls it so it would be racist to not follow his lead.
Good times…..Good times. And yes we were all coming together, and it lasted until Obama came and effed it all up. You know since he was never truly “down with the struggle” or “authentically black”.
Hey, those are Jesse’s accusations. It would be racist of me not to agree. (Sharpton’s too).
It’s interesting to note there are no slaves in Obama’s family tree, just slave traders.
Oh….remember the guy who wrote the column in the LA Times referring to Obama as “sort of a Magic Negro”? If memory serves that author was himself black, but he still caught hell. Oh my gawd that was hilarious.
Yes it is interesting that there are no slaves in Obama’s family tree. Only slave traders. To go even a full step further I doubt that Obama is actually African at all.
Check this out:
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/01/barack_hussein_soebarkah.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xck4t1jVnAQ
Remember’s Rush’s song, “Barack the Magic Negro”? To the tune of Puff the Magic Dragon.
Yes I do remember that song. Hilarious.
Yes, and why do all the refugees in the world basically want to migrate to White countries? All of their propositions need to be challenged. Another good one. If Whites are so racist why do White-majority countries lead the way in terms of diversity and enforcement of anti-discrimination laws? Even when these things are to the detriment of Whites. And I agree with you that they are trying to lay the philosophical groundwork for eventual “actions”.
SSL – you’ve reverted to dumb with questions that your own historical posts reveal your ‘truths’ on.
Yes, we must resist defamation NOW – before it become critical.
Ha! Janos, YOU don’t want to do any of those things.
I want a White Republic just as you adore the Jewish Republic of Israel. If Blacks, Browns, Yellows, and Jews all get to have their own Nation or Nations, why not Whites?
Unless we’re uniquely evil as per my original point. Court. Ball. Your.
Why do you purport that I ‘love the Jewish Republic of Israel’? You’re imagining things, Janos.
I do not think white people are ‘uniquely evil’. I am entirely white myself. But – I have no time for your (and SSL’s ) view that being White (with the capital W) makes you superior to anyone else.
You deny being Jewish?
I capitalize Black and Brown too. Sorry, wrong again. You’re good at that, being wrong that is.
My favorite casino is that Oriental one, Sum Dum Luck.
I remember – Casino of the Sun. When I lived near Tucson and relatives from Germany would visit, I’d take them there and tell them it was Las Vegas. “yeah the place has been greatly overrated”.
Beats driving 500 miles to the real one.
The Lavender Pit quarry in Bizbee, told them it was the Grand Canyon.
*lololol!!!!!!!!!!!!* and above a few posts, you were claiming to have “The Truth”, hmuller.
Turns out, according to this post, that you’re actually liar of convenience, particularly when you can dupe a mug who doesn’t know any better. Worse yet, you’ll do it to FAMILY!
Hey, they were stupid. They had it coming.
Hope you enjoyed it, you cad. Bisbee is nice. Higher up. Does sound like a Z, doesn’t it?
It sure is a small world and getting much, much smaller.
Tucson,
I heard the food service there is run by Sum Yung Gy….
DC is not too far from Baltimore; these Dem pols claiming Trump is a racist and Baltimore is a nice place … need to pile in a few cars and drive up to Baltimore City, the inner city, for a night on the town. Stroll around, linger, have a few drinks, dinner, take in a show, visit the house Poe lived in, Menken, Fitzgerald … let us know how the night went. One caveat: your security details need to stay back in DC. You are on your own, Big Dem Pols, soaking in the ghetto ambiance.
Brh
Ah but Brh, those Big Dem Pols don’t mix with common folk! Unless of course there is an opportunity for a photo op. They would rather stay in DC and talk about how bad things are and how their jobs are so hard and how the Orange One is such a meanie because he says words.
A catastrophic failure is a sudden and total failure from which recovery is impossible. Wikipedia
I don’t think the overpass can support one more ignorant, beligerant ego centric sphincter. The FOMC tea leaf readers will do their best to put a few more of the exceptional on the overpass tomorrow.
far too many mistake ambition for intelligence, thievery for success
What Mr. Trump excels at is knowing the willingness of the population to be corrupt and how low the cost is due to supply and demand. The ability to combine the talents of Manson and Bundy into the world view of Bernays. Yet, hope springs eternal.
Hmm. OKay – maybe Trump IS smarter than he looks. When put that way, “excels at knowing the willingness of the population to be corrupt and how low the cost is”… That rings true. It also proves the old saw ‘takes one to know one’.
His corruption reminds me of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4m848bh1iY
I believe that Robert Mueller didn’t know what was in “The Report” like I believe that the Earth is flat.
I believe that Robert Mueller didn’t know what was in “The Report” like I believe that some person’s farts smell good.
I believe that Robert Mueller didn’t know what was in “The Report” like I believe that on 9-11 Building Number 7 fell into it’s footprint at free fall speed because of a fire that occurred in a separate and different building.
What you probably don’t know is that Robert Mueller’s 3rd cousin (twice removed) is married to a friend of the brother-in-law of the guy who wired thermite charges in Bldg. 7 about 3 weeks before 9-11.
Betcha you weren’t aware of that, were you??
Can you provide a name and address? I would like to visit him.
Since you “know” the guy who wired the thermite is the cousin of a friend of a brother in law I’m sure the authorities would like to know. Have you contacted them? Or are you just repeating fake news which always suggests rumors instead of providing concrete details like names and addresses?
“Or are you just repeating fake news which always suggests rumors instead of providing concrete details like names and addresses?”
You forgot the “/sarc” tag, CMC.
If deetrump can’t recognize CMC’s statement as sarcasm, we may be dealing with some form of artificial intelligence. What a breakthrough for the Trump bashers; no more paying unemployed English majors to fan out over the web.
It’s said that everyone is within seven “moves” of everyone else. Ask not for whom the bell tolls, it tolls for thee.
You left out that it was the super-powerful “nano-thermite”, the regular stuff couldn’t do the job.
/sarc (heh, hoist on my own petard)
CRIMINAL TRUMP tweeted:
“Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded..”
4:50 AM – 9 Jul 2017 –Criminal Trump tweet
THINGS TO COME often flow from things discussed between Putin and Trump. As the Senate Intelligence bipartisan committee said: all 50 state election systems have been under attack from Russia. Breaches were successful in 21 states. Voter data was compromised. The Senate Committee does not know with confidence what Moscow’s intentions are, but Russia may have been probing vulnerabilities in voting systems to exploit later. That would be THINGS TO COME in 2020.
Report of the Select Committee on Intelligence United States Senate on Russian Active Measures Campaigns and Interference in the 2016 U.S. Election
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/publications/reports
Ilhan Omar is a criminal.
https://alphanewsmn.com/ilhan-omar-arrested-in-2013-for-trespassing-booked-at-hennepin-county-jail/
https://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2019/06/25/state-lawmaker-calls-for-ethics-investigation-into-ilhan-omar/
Yeah she’s a real piece of work. In addition to her ethics problems it’s looking more likely to me that she did indeed marry her brother so he could more easily establish residency in the US, although she denies it of course. So she divorced her first husband….married brother….had another kid with first husband while still married to brother….then divorced brother…..remarried first husband. And now she is divorcing husband again.
No wonder Pelosi wants to make this gal go away. She’s a real charmer to mainstream Americans. Towel on head and everything. Yeah.
It’s like fate and the universe is helping Trump with people like Omar becoming the poster girls of the new Democratic Party.
Yes, and I never thought ever that there would be a Towelhead in Congress but here we are. It is looking like she has been involved in some fraudulent schemes but there is no rush at all to get to the bottom of anything. The lamestream is not even discussing it as far as I know. According to our betters, when you are Brown and hate America you are a hero. And they have already made it clear they believe that all means justify the end of bringing down the Orange One. Just like Joe Biden and Mitch McConnell have strong ties with the Chinese Communists but does anyone seem to care?
What do you think of “militarism run stark mad”?
“Across the Atlantic in the United States, yet another killing of people no one had ever heard of in a place no one had ever heard of could hardly have seemed less important. President Woodrow Wilson had only somewhat more interest in European affairs than most of his fellow citizens, though he was inclined to believe that he might be the man to enlighten the Old World and save it from its foolish ways. During the summer his personal emissary, a Texan who styled himself “Colonel” Edward House despite never having served in any military capacity, spent two months visiting the capitals of the great powers and conferring with some of their most important men. “My purpose,” House confided to his diary, perhaps somewhat smugly, “was to plant the seeds of peace.” What he found, he reported to Wilson, was “militarism run stark mad. Unless someone acting for you [it is not difficult to guess who he thought that someone might be] can bring about a different understanding, there is some day to be an awful cataclysm.”
G. J. Meyer
A World Undone: The Story of the Great War, 1914 to 1918
“there is some day to be an awful cataclysm” –Edward House
This was said over 100 years ago? And it has been repeated weekly as the Long Emergency for the last 20 years (since Y2K).
Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.
Funny thing about history…
In the short term, among the living, a prediction that’s off by decades is a failure. But in the long term, those looking back into the past won’t even be able to measure this offset, let alone care that the prediction wasn’t spot on. What’s 10, 20, 30 years in the context of thousands or millions or more?
Moses predicted a great flood. But he was off by 30 years. FAIL!
It has been a century since Edward House made his prediction. “Among the living” a century can be regarded as a statistically significant error.
Aren’t you forgetting WWI?
“there is some day to be an awful cataclysm.” –Edward House
“Moses predicted a great flood.” –Ex
“Aren’t you forgetting WWI?” –Pucker
Cataclysm comes from the Greek word kataklysmos, which means “a deluge or flood.” So saying something was “a disaster of cataclysmic proportions” is particularly apt when you’re talking about a tsunami. World War I was neither a flood nor a tsunami.
What?
I don’t think that most reasonable people would differ on the issue of whether WWI was a major cataclysm….
All I know is that Ed House was a horrible man. A real turd in the bowl.
>>> “Among the living” a century can be regarded as a statistically significant error.
Isn’t that exactly what I said? But whether it’s 30 or 100 you seem to have missed my point. Future historians will likely overlook this discrepency if the predictions are detailed and specific and nonobvious and ultimately prescient.
Kunstler’s predictions have not come to pass, either. Not yet. Hopefully not ever. But if they do, historians are not going to say he failed because his predictions were off by some decades.
I’m still trying to figure out how Moses got associated with the flood instead of Noah. Am I experiencing the Mandela Effect?
>>> I’m still trying to figure out how Moses got associated with the flood instead of Noah.
LOL. My mistake. I meant to say Noah.
What do you think about blokes in their late 20’s who play violent video games on their smartphones on the subway and on their way to work?
They’re crazy….
It’s like the movie “Nightcrawler”.
https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/07/25/the-crazed-unrealistic-democrats-now-comprise-the-greatest-threat-to-us-unity-and-to-life-on-earth/
Yes, it is a form of collective insanity for some. For others its intentional deception.
Yawn. Another JHK ‘The End is About Six Months Away” rant. Boy, I’ve never seen that before. Except for every rant he’s posted for the last 15 years.
Well your not thinking deeply enough about it then. There are so many signs of civilizational decline that one cannot ignore them except willfully. The trend is very real. No one knows the hour for sure. But the time is getting very short. So why are you here?
No DR Gonzo…he’s taken MONTHS off to excoriate anyone not seeing Trump as an innocent picked upon bystander instead of the outrageous fraud he is.
Wow! It’s his schedule and prerogative not yours. Who do you think you are?
I simply observe.
The fall of an empire takes time. There are plenty of signs that things are not sustainable.
When you are tone-deaf all the music sounds the same, so to speak.
I doubt that there are many folks hereabouts that have any interest in your atrophied perceptual abilities.
I could be wrong.
~toktomi~
I don’t really see what the big deal is or what the fuss is all about with Trump’s Baltimore tweets. It’s sad but its true and it’s not just Baltimore. Many of our cities have large areas that are rat infested, plague infested, third world no go zones of death. Chicago is more dangerous that Afghanistan. 48 shot just this weekend and 8 dead so far. Baltimore is just as dangerous as Central America. San Francisco is becoming one giant public bathroom and Los Angeles could be ground zero for the 21st century Black Death. It seems a bit strange that many of our cities have already been in Progressive hands for decades but there seems to be a dearth of progress to go around. Sounds like a familiar story that has already unfolded in the interior and in many cases because Conservatives embraced globalism, offshoring, etc. So you have a rapidly deteriorating country and an inadequate (at best) political response. It really is a recipe for revolutionary change.
You are up against the Amalek reincarnated in a female body.
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/what-goes-around/#comment-431310
No! I am not reading an essay. Tell me what you mean. I thought Amalek was a king of the Amalekites. The Amalekites were defeated by the Hebrews. So you are saying Amalek is back?
As soon as Moses brought Jews out of Egypt, that is, before they could turn from a crowd of runaways slaves into a people, they were attacked by the people of Amalek, the grandson of Esau, in order to solve the Jewish question proactively, even before the Jewish people as such (Ex. 17:8).
In this regard, the commandment to Israel “remember what Amalek did to you” arose.
It was this commandment that King Saul violated, capturing King Agag the Amalekites and capturing many trophies during a punitive expedition against his subjects, instead of just killing them.
It was the refusal to destroy the people of Amalek from man to cattle, thereby angered the Almighty, who promised the Jews His help in the fight against Amalek, including promising to personally fight against Amalek, and this promise cannot but remind of the Apocalypse and Armageddon.
Religious nutjob.
Ok I think I understand what you are saying. This is a different form of exhortation for obedience and devotion. In this situation a certain someone is presenting themselves as an Amalek. In total opposition to the will of God and His Law. So when it comes to the latter days Amalek can be considered to be the spirit of the Anti-Christ no? And believers must not give in and attempt to tolerate and reconcile with the spirit of the Anti-Christ in the way the Hebrews did with the Amalekites. Is this close?
They see us as Amalek. And Esau. One Jewish boy asked his rabbi was it fair what Jacob did to Esau. The Rabbi was outraged saying, What kind of question is that? Esau was an animal.
Esau, the eldest, was a Man after Issac’s heart. Jacob was “a man of the tents” close to his mother. He tricked the blind Issac into giving his blessing as Isaac was dying. Ever since, they have held onto our heel, going where we go, profiting off of our heroism, and pulling us down ultimately.
See? I can make myths too. I’m not bound by funny Jewish history so I can turn it back on them – but only after I show the basic evil. Or I can leave it alone completely. This kind of aggressive freedom is their metier. And they can’t stand a non-Jew who can do it. The Tragedy is that Christianity is bound to these narratives to a greater or lesser extent.
Indeed! The Bible describes Esau as a mighty hunter. With red hair no less. And it is true that Esau was closer to Isaac than Jacob was. It is clear that Jacob deceived in order to steal Esau’s birthright. But there is a reference too and I would have to look for it (so take it with a touch of a grain of salt) in which God blesses Esau and his descendants and vows to recompense them, I am pretty certain of this. Additionally, Christ Himself dispossessed those who thought they had the birthright and bestowed it upon those who actually loved Him (which did include some of the dispossessed who had a change of heart). So you are right in the sense that in many ways we are bound to the same history and narrative as the Jews. But our narrative is more complete IMO than their narrative.
Christian Identity turns it around and says Whites are Israel and that “the Jews” are Esau and his descendants, the Edomites. And that when the Babylonians took the Ten Tribes into Babylon, they eventually won their freedom and migrated into Europe. And that when the Jews got back into Palestine they mixed with the Edomites and then claimed our Identity as their own.
Interesting stuff and some variant of this has been believed for a long time. But then we’re stuck with the bad stuff in the Old Testament. And plus, there are lots of holes in it. There were obviously lot of people in Europe before any Lost Tribes got there.
But in any case, I believe you are right: Esau (the people) wins back his freedom in the end. And Esau (the individual) met up with Jacob later and made peace with him instead of trying to take revenge.
JS I was in a church for quite a few moons that had as one of its central tenets the belief that Britain and the US were descendants of the Israelite tribes Ephraim and Manasseh, and that much of NW Europe were descendants of other tribes. France from Reuben. Makes sense….Didn’t France give the world the reuben sandwich? Lol…
This church’s foundation for this belief originated from a Brit named J.H. Allen who wrote ‘Judah’s Scepter and Joseph’s Birthright’ around the turn of the 19th to the 20th century. Of course the founder of this church essentially plagiarized this book when he wrote his own and claimed it was “direct revelation” from gawd. And of course this church also ended up being a cult from which I had to leave, but all in all I did learn quite a bit even though a lot of it was BS.
Oh let’s see – Herbert W Armstrong’s Church? Guess it’s fallen apart but it was quite large though not in my part of the country. I never met anybody from it.
The Old Monks believed this stuff so it got written down long ago. Tuatha De Dannan – the Race of Great Magicians that invaded Ireland. Easy: Tuath means Tribe. De means of. Dannan is Dan. Tribe of Dan. Could there be a bit of Truth to it? Maybe. But not to the exclusion of other truths, such as other people already being there. They’re part of Ireland’s history too. Ditto all the other countries and the Tribes that supposedly migrated to them.
And for that matter, “The Book of Invasions” by the Old Masters list five or so great invasions of Ireland. The Dannites weren’t the first, nor were they the last. They got beat by later comers.
I’ve read about the possibility of the Lost Tribes migrating into Europe long ago as people called Cimmerians and Scythians. Allegedly these groups suddenly showed up in the historical record immediately following the scattering of the tribes. I certainly think its possible if not probable. But I agree that there were already people inhabiting Europe prior to any arrival of the Lost Tribes and thus I think it would be impossible for any modern European country to say its people came from this tribe or that one.
Yes JS you figured correctly. And yes the HWA church fell apart in the early to mid 90s, but a lot of splinter churches sprouted up. (He died in 86, just a week before L. Ron Hubbard did. Ha!)
The most loyal formed a splinter church even before the mother church officially technically folded. I was in that group for awhile because I was a true koolaid drinking believer. Lol…
In this regard, it would be useful to give the word to Jewish sources, because contrary to popular belief, it is the spiritual struggle against Amalek that is the number one priority for religious Jews, the axis and meaning of Israel’s history, and the fight against Christianity is rather a lot of liberal Jews, who consider Judaism the ethnographic legacy of dark and ignorant ancestors.
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/what-goes-around/#comment-431310
So you do believe then in Amalek being an evil force that you are fighting? So then is Amakek really the Devil?
The notable examples of Amalek in History: Haman, King Herod, “saint” Bernard of Clairvaux, Hitler.
But in all Truth would not a Jew be a Christian now that the Messiah has come? You consider yourself to be Christian and have accepted that the Messiah has come.
This is why I adore you. You followed his argument but without being hypnotized by it. Then you supplied the logical conclusion which he leaves out and will always leave out.
As if Religious Jews are pro-Christian! See the Talmud.
Yes, in reality as you know, saying that one is a Jewish Christian is like saying that one is a Black White. One will always overcome the other. Sort of like two giant oak trees that grow very close to one another into adulthood until eventually one trees’ roots choke out the others’ and removes the competition altogether. Except that in our case we know the story and we know that our tree will live. But the story itself is riddled with ups and downs, as any good story is.
Like I said over the weekend, if the Apostle John heard Finc say that he is an Orthodox Christian Jew he’d say, “Whatchutalkin’ bout Finc?”
Yes, as Christ said, the New Wine will split the old skins so new skins are required. And for their part, Christ said of the Jews: Soon they will drive you from the synagogues and think killing you to be a good deed.
So a Divorce was inevitable – and it was anything by amicable.
“sad but true”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8MO7fkZc5o
A theme and motto for the new America.
“sad but true”
youtube.com/watch?v=A8MO7fkZc5o
A theme and motto for the new America.
XOXOXO
Lol, you metal head :-)! The current America is a mosh pit of sorts isn’t it.
His tweets are a bit crass, as is his style, but he is on point. Before I moved overseas, I lived in DC and was often in B-more.
Recorded an album there. During our sessions, the industrial A/C unit was stolen — DURING recording.
That city is full of potential (it has some incredible architecture, in places), but it has been a rat-infested hole for decades.
The only safe areas were Inner Harbor and the Hopkins campus. Venture even a couple blocks from either, and you are in gangland. Wait until the MSM discovers that vast swathes of other major US cities are rat holes, too.
Oh wow so you were in a band? What kind of music did/do ya’ll play? Isn’t a shame. Chicago has such beautiful gothic architecture for instance. There isn’t any excuse for cities to be this way in the “most powerful nation on earth”. Either we are not the most powerful nation on earth or some people are hoarding everything or maybe a bit of both!?
Post-punk/DC hardcoreish stuff. Or “alternative rock” in the common parlance.
The architecture was something I always noticed in B-more. Even in a dilapidated state, those old building facades are works of art and the relationships to the surroudings made them much more livable and inspring than anything created since.
That’s very interesting Nightowl! You should link to your band playing. If there is any video or anything.
I would, but who knows what kind of surveillance-state goblins monitor this site.
test2
It worked!!!!!
SSL, I should note here that when I reported an issue with making comments to Jim and Neil, I got a very professional response. Thanks again Jim and Neil.
Cheers
Finc,
You are OFF YOUR MEDS one more night!!
Please take them every 4 hours as your psychiatrist ordered.
Your Mother and Sister have implored you to follow the routine!
Take your Meds Now!! == CancelMyCard
Compared to delirium most of you keep pouring on the pages of this blog, I am an oasis of sanity and political realism.
The Age of Pornocracy
After it turned out that the Mueller’s Investigation from the very start was ran by the agent “Deep Throat”, at the same time the first female Candidate for US Presidency from the Democratic Party, the political regime in the United States over the last 30 years has rightfully acquired the name Pornocracy
And this is not the first time in the history of the West when it happened
Following the death of Charlemagne Civilization Christianity started to fall apart, and when in 905 A.D. the last of the Italian Carolingian dynasty died, followed in 911 by the German one, the Holy Roman Empire was conquered by the “Abomination of Desolation”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abomination_of_desolation
This can be best illustrated by the fact that the Papacy was governed by a group of prostitutes for 60 years, so that practically the entire 10th century in Rome came to be known as the “Age of Pornocracy”.
During this period, most of the popes died shortly after being elected, but in-spite of their short terms they still managed to leave behind them long trails of different crimes, including murder.
This tradition was broken only in 963 at the interference of the founder of the Holy Roman Empire Otto I the Great, who forced the election to the Papal throne of a priest famous for his asceticism.
Wikipedia’s article on the Age of Pornocracy:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saeculum_obscurum
Hillary Clinton should be credited for her incredible talent of giving everything a distinct pornographic touch.
Well, last nite when I suggested Dem pols from DC take a road trip to Baltimore City for a night on the town to show us, in person, what a wonderful place it was, an urban utopia (without their personal armed security details) little did I know Nancy Pelosi and her entourage were in Venice, Italy, staying at a five star hotel, living up on the taxpayers dime. Yes, yes, they will be travelling there when they get back, in a big Cadillac Escalade caravan, peering out tinted windows at the cratered inner city, shit eating smiles on their faces, as if to say “all is well”, and “look at us, we’re down with the community”, but thinking “lets get this over with as quick as possible, before we get shot at”.
Brh
Meanwhile, in Frankfurt, Germany, authorities just can’t figure out a motive why an Eritrean refugee, an honored guest really, pushed an 8 yo German boy off a platform into the path of a high speed train. They’re flummoxed. Its a mystery, really.
The main worry now, in Gemany, is that Germans will seek to extract a measure of revenge against the (Sainted) Eritrean community; extra police have been deployed to protect black African neighborhoods, as well as track down and investigate any Germans uttering any racist words, or thinking any racist thoughts.
Brh
Funny how an immigrant murders an innocent and the only reaction is to protect the sainted class from reprisals? What at one time might be termed justice. Of course, people such minded (or in their right mind if you prefer) would have kept such out of the country to begin with.
Coming to the US soon. I foresee a day when too many folks are shooting cartel members caught in the act of thievery, raping, murder, etc being used as a pretext to disarm the “racist” public at large.
Need lotsa rope.
Back, we may rest assured the German officials will spare no effort to determine the perpetrator is mentally unwell.
He also pushed the boy’s mother as well, but she was able to be rescued.
Cheers
In Italy, earlier this year it was the black w 2 mulatto kids.
he had been arrested on a sex assault.
BUT he was hired to drive a school bus.’
he wanted to kill the school children.
As a classical liberal, I find it offensive how dumb and screwed up the democrats and leftists have become.
Good example is the B’more thing. Trump is an ahole but all he has done is point out a fact. And the idiots are losing their minds…
Truly amazing how pointing out that the knowitalls do not even remotely have their own houses in order makes you a “racist.” Breathe taking stupidity. Talk about unfit for office. H3ll unfit to breathe.
FACTS ARE NOT ATTACKS!!!!
The authorities, especially the German authorities, but ours too for the most part work for the Globalist Elites. Thus they can’t and will never serve the people but rather serve the Plan. This Eritrean and his crime believe it or not are part of the Plan. If it were not so the authorities would be acting like normal human beings and would be outraged over the murder of an eight year old child and would seek capital punishment for the murderer. But they are no longer normal human beings having given themselves over completely to an alien agenda and mindset.
“The main worry now, in Germany, is that Germans will seek to extract a measure of revenge against the (Sainted) Eritrean community
…With long arrears to make good,
When the Saxon began to hate.
Yeah….
Religious nutjob == Majella
How the Rainbow Turned into Darkness
On June 26, 2015, the U.S. Supreme Court held in a 5–4 decision that the Fourteenth Amendment requires all states to grant same-sex marriages and recognize same-sex marriages granted in other states.
Hillary beat everyone again, and her doubling down this time worked
It looks like the decision of the Supreme Court, which obliges all states to recognize same-sex marriages, was a payment for support in the Supreme Court of Obamacare and in the Congress of Trans-Pacific Cooperation. And the week of Obama’s victories turned out not only to his defeat, but also to the defeat of the entire Bush Clan.
Just an hour before homosexual marriages were legalized throughout the United States, in the key state of Nebraska they were legalized by a voluntaristic decision of the state Attorney General, and an hour after this decision literally in all states that refuse to recognize homosexual marriages, specially prepared homosexual millionaires filed lawsuits in court on evangelical communities for discrimination of homosexuals, expressed in the refusal to them in such religious services as the wedding ceremony of gays in Christian churches.
In addition, in North Carolina, was elected archbishop of the Evangelical Church, the “priest” who had long promised to carry out these procedures.
It became clear that the case was not about the butt-pounding. Butt was only a pretext for forcing the hierarchs of Christian churches to abandon Christ.
This caused such indignation, which required a special clarification from President Obama and his promise not to allow the use of this Supreme Court decision for religious persecution of American Christians.
While he remains the President.
And if Hillary Clinton becomes the President, then according to her, “America’s religious organizations will have to adapt to the requirements of American law.”
Thus, the presidential elections in 2016 would not have possibly ended peacefully, moreover, exercises began, according to the legend of which, the US Army suppresses separatism of Texas and California, and the state of Texas has begun to mobilize Texas rangers and Texas guards in order to “follow” these maneuvers.
And all this was happening against the background of attempts to ban the flag of the confederation, and the Republicans are the party of Abraham Lincoln, and the Democrats are the party of slave owners.
Meanwhile, Nebraska, which connects the Christian North with the Christian South of the United States, can no longer become a member of the Christian union of America, which rules out the peaceful divorce of the Christian and anti-Christian states if Hillary is able to provide the election results she needs.
In general, it became impossible to quietly remove her from the elections, because it would mean the abolition of the right to same-sex marriage, as it became clear that the secular registration of gay marriages is not enough for her.
She wanted to find adventures on her ass and she definitely found them.
Map of Christian vs non-Christian states:
https://imgprx.livejournal.net/217d745acd7ed4dfd8600907854fc0e0b89ebdbd/BHI6lZOuxdEbjH3pVW_2dBOJa0wJJswvSHZaJK_K6LUTsXyWaNN9jw37H-8Ibag8fQmn6NafT21eht2IaenX8cgLT1fkuMcRpoJ97Q7mHXdVjok0YqdybIwVDENQ1Z5zpPhnwSLpMb1Uuonzk5LkWg
There has been a movement within the Church (Catholic) and the churches (Protestant) for a long time to move away from the message of Christ almost entirely. The only portion of Christ’s message that this movement wishes to retain is “Judge not lest ye be judged”, which is taken out of context of course and used as a reason to go ahead and do anything you want because you know, no judgement and all. And of course the strange and baseless belief that Christ came as a sort of hippie liberator rather than as a Sword of Truth. The world loves hippies but scorns truth tellers. They really aren’t going to like Him when he comes back in full Lion mode.
Yes, he’s gonna kill a lot of people. And we’ll be in our immortal bodies and will get to help. He’s gonna lead us into battle. Aslan Christ. Yah Yashua.
Yes, our White Christ on a White Horse! His eyes like blazing fire. The One who is Faithful and True will judge with all righteousness and make war with the enemies of God.
“Yes, our White Christ on a White Horse! His eyes like blazing fire. The One who is Faithful and True will judge with all righteousness and make war with the enemies of God.”
SSL,
And did he not send a plague of locusts to sin city?
Yes he did EF. Right into the palaces of Pharoah himself.
Jesus is a real liability for Christianity these days because he was more white and male than not. If only they had chosen a transgender nubian! Someone like Pat—only more “colorful”.
Yeah Christ had a crew cut and a letterman jacket. When he got older, he wore a suit and worked with stocks and bonds.
Jesus was NOT white.
He was Aramaic.
At that time in history, the Aramaic tribe was . . .
Short, dark, and swarthy.
White Indeed!!!
Study your history, or it will fail you and your ignorant responses.
You are absolutely correct that Jesus was not white. In fact none of the ancient Hebrews, including 2000 years ago, were white.
Nope. Nada.
Jesus was NOT white.
Cancel,
With all respect…Bullshit! I’ve seen the pictures of him…white skin, blond hair blue eyes.
He thinks Jesus was a Puerto Rican with frizzy hair no less.
Both Jesus and Mohammed were White men with dark brown hair that in the sunlight had lots of red highlights and fair eyes. One Hadith specifically refers to Mohammed as a White man. And the Bible says Esau had red hair. So he was either White or an Australian Aborigine and I seriously doubt the Southern Hemisphere connection. The population of the Levant 2,000 years ago was different than the modern population. Think of all the wars, invasions, mass expulsions, genocide, and mixing of different people that happened there in the span of 2,000 years.
So you think fair skinned, even freckled white people lived in that vast desert? Really?
I used to think Esau had red hair. Until someone who actually knows the original Hebrew set me straight on that. Yes the Levant population was different 2000 years ago. They were even darker than now.
But go ahead and use your illusion. Keep waiting for your White Jesus to return. Lol… And you don’t know what that Hadith really said either. Mohamammed white my ass. Are you fluent in Arabic? Know anyone who is? Doubtful.
>>> He was Aramaic.
He was a Galilean Semite. And I never said he was white. I said, “he was more white and male than not.” Like that phrasing? Not so easy to refute, eh?
Must be getting close.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/watch-out-america-china-and-russia-are-stockpiling-gold-2019-07-29?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo
Even the nimrods are starting to get a clue.
“pretending to prosper by racking up debt”
There’s a lot of pretending, with the enthusiastic encouragement of a multitude of grifters with their well-practiced story-lines and sales pitches. You know, you’ve heard them, from your financial advisor with the judiciously displayed cleavage and manner that suggests that she likes you, or the local real estate agent with the shapely leg and flirty smile that gives you visions of a shag, maybe in that house for sale over there.
And so, as JHK sez, craziness ensues, debt substituting for income. And equity, whether home equity or securities of various sorts, substituting for cash.
People will say that a real estate agent visited and told them their house is worth x dollars or that the guy down the street sold his place for y dollars. And so the homeowner starts confusing his own abode with money in a bank account.
Same with the stock market game. People buy stock. They say that the stock price went up. And so they get to thinking that the price that some other guy sold his shares for applies to everyone else who owns those shares, whether or not they actually sold. IOW they start thinking about company shares as equivalent to cash in the bank.
But these delusions, though they may be consecrated by time and sanctified by usage, are still delusions.
The problem is that people start believing that delusion is truth. And if you pour scorn you get looked at funny. People mock you, they say “you don’t get it” or they get emphatic and impatient and say “no, you can’t look at it like that”, or the piece de resistance, “you, with your education, that’s how you think?”
Yep, folks, it’s a con, all designed to separate you from your money.
Money? Do not get befuddled about that. It’s what you have in your wallet, what you have in a bank account, a legal claim backed up by bank statements, insured through FDIC (within limits) and enforceable in court.
The value quoted by your real estate agent is an opinion, nothing more, that doesn’t get real until you sell your house and cash goes into your bank account.
Same with your stocks. You don’t have “money in the market.” When you buy stocks, somebody else got your money. You now have stocks. And unless you’re selling those stocks, they aren’t in the market.
But, as they say, bullshit baffles brains, and if everyone is saying it, it must be so.
And even in reality money itself is just a measure but not really a thing after all. Isn’t that the case?
A dollar bill or a five dollar bill or a bill for whatever denomination is a glorified pizza coupon redeemable not just for pizza, but for anything that’s for sale. According to one account, several thousand years ago people used to get metal tokens from grain storage facilities to credit them for the grain they stored there. Then they started using those tokens as a means of buying and selling at the market-place seeing as the bearer was entitled to x bushels of grain at the storage facility. IOW the token became “money” with the token’s value underpinned by whatever quantity of grain that token represented and was redeemable for. That system makes more sense than what we have now.
That does sound like the “money” was actually backed by something real. Maybe one day we will go back to bartering? That seems to be more realistic too.
Barter is highly realistic but it’s highly inconvenient.
But the “bankers” be they Sumerians, Romans, Phoneicians, Templars or Jews learned a good trick: they could lend out more tokens than represented by the grain. In other words, just make tokens! No one was watching. And as long as they were careful, they could get away with it and become wealthy beyond all dreams of avarice.
With the fake money, they could get real wealth: land, labor, and capital. It’s like buying a Monopoly game for twenty five dollars and being able to use all the Monopoly Money as real money. Think you might buy more games after the first one?
The main thing to understand is that the real capital is not money, but the ability to create monetary systems, the knowledge of how they work, and the creation of a system of secrecy that prevents people like us, from knowing how the system works by the method of reasoning.
The last is the most difficult, because once something was invented, what prevents someone from coming up with a similar system?
Especially when you consider that there are not so many working options.
Thanks for using “ grok “, very appropriate.
America will grok after we get to Mars.
Things to come, it has begun.
Yes, He comes to judge and save (the earth itself too).
Revelations 11:8 – The nations were enraged, and Your wrath has come. The time has come to judge the dead, and to reward Your servants, the prophets and saints, and those who fear Your name, both small and great, and to destroy those who destroy the earth.”
YOu can have yours, I’ll go with god is change.
What in the world does that really mean? The video you linked to insinuates that humans will destroy the earth or at least all life in it. It seems like you would be glad if there was a force that would address ecological destruction.
How do we deal with pervasive anti-White racism? A new civil rights movement maybe? Sure, but you must know your rights and your value to society. According to today’s mainstream philosophies Whites have no intrinsic value. According to this line of thinking Whites produce nothing but oppression for all humans of color and ultimately destroy all they touch. But apparently Whites are good to use when you need em and then their trash when you don’t.
https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/education/item/32972-white-professor-sues-black-univ-for-racial-age-discrimination
Susan Sontag: Whites are the Cancer of Humanity. They began this shit after we defeated their Enemies for them in Germany and Palestine. Gratitude like unto Ilhan’s. We lost the War (they won), damning ourselves since in the process since we murdered our German Brothers. We are Cain.
Yes, I agree with you. And thus we now suffer under a heavy weight of oppression. This is our punishment. We are now the ones in captivity. But the bonds are not insurmountable either.
If things get nasty, the resolution of conflict is a matter of raw power.
There’s a fair number of Whites – ie people on campus, wokesters – who get a lot of attention by castigating Whites as being extra-special evil racists. Start by calling out those assholes and ask if they’re trying to incite inter-racial violence. And ask – if that’s their aim – if they think that in the mayhem their own skin color will stay unnoticed.
If this descends into violence, when it’s over what the inciters will end up with is de-facto segregation. Again. But Whites, being very well armed and being the majority, will likely end up on top. And, according to a bunch of sources I’ve read, 53% of Hispanics identified themselves as White in the 2010 census. And, like I said before, the kids of White-Asian marriage self-identify as White. The point is that the White majority isn’t disappearing.
In short, just tell the instigators that if they want a fight, it could get very bloody and that Whites will very likely win. Ask if that’s what they want. See what they say.
Once you’ve had that discussion with White instigators, maybe ask politicians and Blacks wtf they’re trying to accomplish. Same reasoning. Whites, being in the majority and being well armed will likely win. Is that what they want? Dead bodies everywhere? What would be the point?
There’s a general rule, that if you look for trouble you will find it. But there are other more reasonable ways to resolve conflict.
I suppose this is where I do struggle with my darker side. I mean. My feeling about it is why tell your enemies anything. Let them do what they will and let the reaction be what it will be. Warnings may serve the greater good if you are indeed dealing with some level of reason. But when your entire agenda is driven by hate there is not much to work with. I say let them be arrogant and fall into the pit. Then we can live in peace. Like when Jezebel fell from the tower and was eaten by the dogs. At least then Elijah, a Man of God, could breath and preach as God requested of him. And Jezebel was warned anyway but Pride surely did come before the fall.
Many White/Asians call themselves “hapas” and don’t identify with either. So you’re wrong again. And many of the Hispanic “Whites’ aren’t White at all in a racial sense.
Apropos of nothing, has anyone but me noticed the size (huge) of Elizabeth Warren’s ear lobes?
No. But here’s an instant theory: it’s from her Neanderthal ancestry which comprises from 1% to 4% of the DNA of people descending from outside Africa. She’s probably more Neanderthal than native American.
Here’s a pic:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-neanderthal-murder-mystery-888276.html
This native American thing didn’t pan out. Maybe she can run as the Neanderthal candidate.
My neanderthal genes want reparations for the criminal way we were treated by Cro-magnons.
A different look at that relationship. Danny might be onto something.
http://themandus.org/
Cheers
He might be. There’s good evidence that Neanderthal ate their own. So why not Sapiens?
At last a good post from you.
Not out of Africa?
why did the kill them off, that is the question.
Australopocahontus Americanus?
Cheers
Sounds good. Let’s go with this.
Damn. That is all I see now.
Yes, see how the mind works? Welcome to my world. All I see is big noses….
Indian Art portrayed Indians as having very long ears. This may be an indirect proof of her injun heritage. Went to a gallery opening of an Indian (not Native American. Whites are the Native Americans) artist. All orange sandtone like faces fixed in a hateful glare. He played the good old boy, but he hated Whites with an abiding hatred. I read between the lines of his talk – and then there was his paintings….
Q.
Sorry but no…been fixated on her tits….
I find it very amusing that some here “attack” Mr. K because his prophecies have not come to pass. Some mock him. I think such comments to him make no real wounds. I tend to believe that those who don’t believe in the facts of our situation in the world suffer more from constipation of the imagination. I suppose that some who lived in Dresden were feeling pretty good about having avoided a real shellacking until they got hammered by a serious allied raid. Maybe someone in Hiroshima felt the same until the Enola Gay showed up. Avoiding reality is serious among a lot of folks. Perhaps I should envy them but then reality tends to show up and someone gets clobbered. Perhaps it is the scale that is missing. One person is murdered during a drug deal gone bad. Ho hum. Twenty-three get shot and it makes the evening news. Still ho hum. Some are just ho hum about everything. I for one see Mr. K’s point of view and truthfully I have taken some measures to add to my security. I am grateful that a collapse has not occurred, but I think it is a matter of speed rather than not coming at all. We have technology to hurry ours along but for some here they do not see any problem evidently. But then I expect lefties/progressives to continue to focus on the thing that interests them most. That would be the space between the neck and thighs. Their view seems to be limited to that area of life.
Trump is a German and his acquaintance Epstein, unsuccessfully Arcancided on the eve of the very important changes in the USA
Ideological workers in the West are very good and they earn their salaries honestly, and this is especially well seen now when very big changes are taking place in the United States and in the world, in particular confirming what I wrote about sect of pedophiles in the United States which sabotaged the Russian Deep Water Losharik and attempted to assassinate the President of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin.
Unfortunately, many of CFN posters simply cannot understand not only the theory of world projects, but also the changes that are taking place simply because they have ideological splinters driven into their brains that do not allow to build a coherent picture of the world, not only on the basis of the theory of world projects, but based on any theory.
And without at least some theory it remains only to look at these changes as a ram at a newly erected gate. And this is at best, but generally speaking, beating horns at anything, rejoicing when they manage to hit at least something.
The fact of the matter is that the ability to put the changes taking place on the right shelf in a consistent picture of the world is the awareness of these changes and a necessary condition for successfully resisting external manipulation.
And the art of controlling people, which is not Authority from God, and therefore is not Authority at all, consists in destroying a coherent picture of the world in the minds of the people they are trying to control, paralyzing their will and not allowing them to adequately respond to the changes.
Moreover, the most terrible manipulations that lead not only to the destruction of a human being as a person and his family, but also of the whole society to which he belongs, occur at the religious level using the methods described in Giordano Bruno’s “Great Manipulator”, because of two wills in every human.
That is why the teachings of Maximus the Confessor provoke particularly violent, but also hidden resistance among liberals-Westerners, that it is the most applied part of the social concept of Christianity.
Maximus the Confessor and the Two Wills of Christ
https://www.placefortruth.org/blog/maximus-confessor-and-two-wills-christ
And I don’t have enough time to describe all these manipulations, I am arguing here with some posters not because their plumbing does not work well (I refer to certain anti-Semitic ideas) and not because they are Clinton-zombies (although there are some among them), but because they, feeling that they are being manipulated and they can not build a coherent picture of the world, choose some fact or conclusion as a fixed point of support and hold to it like to a rock in the stormy world of ideas.
And often this rock turns out to be just another external manipulation.
For example, I have repeatedly come across such a refutation of the theory of world projects, which, from their point of view, declares the Germans to be carriers of a Black World Project:
“Trump, whom I praise in every way, is an ethnic German.”
I will answer this question as principally as possible:
The Germans are NOT the carriers of the Black World Project, since ALL nations of the world are carriers of the Black World Project – that includes Jews, and the Germans are just less fortunate than the rest of the European nations because, for historical reasons, the German Empire was created by Prussia, which by and large cannot be considered a national state.
Prussia is not a state, it is a quasi-religious sect created by the Livonian Order on the lands of the Orthodox Prussians (Russians) destroyed by them, and the Germans for many centuries struggled with this order with great courage, as evidenced by the tales of the Brothers Grimm and the history of the Trump family, both on female and male line.
You shall fight against the Lamb (represented by SSL in this case), but the Lamb shall defeat you.
Back on your Meds, Finc!!
Back on your Meds!
Your Mother and Sister implore you.
Please take your meds every 4 hours as your psychiatrist has prescribed.
Otherwise, you just rant and blabber wild and crazy BS non-stop.
Take your meds!
Here’s a news item from Zerohedge: “On Tuesday, Calif. Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a bill requiring President Trump to either release his tax returns or he won’t appear on the ballot in the state.”
If upheld as constitutional, any state could impose it’s own special conditions before allowing a Presidential Candidate to appear on the ballot.
I propose my state require candidates to dress as drag queens and sing “Feelings, Nothing More Than Feelings” on the state capital steps. This will cover both the evening wear and talent part of the competition.
Election meddling.
It is quite amazing though. Reminds me of when Cankles tried to flip the electors.
The initiative of the Governor could be safely filed on the shelf under the name “The delirium of a gray gelding”, since it is a clearly illegal attempt to amend the US Constitution which clearly defines who could, if elected, become the President of the United States.
The potential breakup of the Union has inched forward just a bit more. Or perhaps it has gone more than a few inches. We’ll see.
Just think what the Founders would say about all of this. But just take this one story with Newsom. First of all the Founders would be horrified that there is a thing such as Federal Income Taxes. And certainly would be horrified that a creature called the Federal Reserve oversees the printing of the money. But, for an individual State to set as a requirement that a presidential candidate must show his Federal Tax return in order to be on that state’s ballot? They’d be gobsmacked.
Someone would have to fill them in on the 14th Amendment. I think they’d say, “Oh hell, I’m going back into my grave! Ef this!”
Well now I see that all this law that Newsom signed regards is the state primary election ballot. Not the general election. So this is pretty much symbolism over substance. Since Trump has no GOP primary opponent then it won’t even be an issue. I’m guessing Newsom is hoping other states will follow his lead. Pfffft
Testosterone legal again in Italy. Boys allowed to grow up into Men! I never thought I’d see this again in my lifetime. Ave Salvini! Hail Caesar!
Soon Salvini will begin giving boys testosterone boosters to enable them to become the Men their ancestors were. Hail Victory, Comrades.
Life Site News:
The regional council of Friuli Venezia Giulia, an autonomous region in northeastern Italy, approved a motion calling on the national government to prohibit so-called puberty-blocking drugs used in so-called reassignment treatment for gender-confused children.
In a July 17 move by a center-right majority led by the League party, the Friuli Venezia Giulia regional council approved a motion calling on Italy’s national government to prohibit the prescription of drugs that prevent normal sexual development of adolescents.
The League’s leader is Deputy Prime Minister Matteo Salvini, who is one of the three members in Italy’s coalition government that includes Deputy Prime Minister Luigi Di Maio of the Five Star Party (M5S) and Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte. The leftist parties in the regional council, including M5S, voted against the motion.
According to the council’s motion, “puberty is not a disease”and thus should not be prevented with surgery and medications that can produce irreversible effects. It also noted the long-term negative effects of drugs containing triptorelin
I did not say Heil. My hands, my sinful hands tried to type that, but I resisted my lower self and regained control over my members. This is not a committee by a Dictatorship. Maybe Italian Fascism is the way to go – until the Stars are Right!
You are getting as bad as Finc, in your old age.
Take your meds, dude.
Acceptable for now :-). But when our new Republic is established we will all have to work on our German as it will at least hold the same importance in everday life as English. At least that is how I dream about it.
More from Joe Bageant, ‘Pissing in the Liberal Punch Bowl Again’:
“Americans take comfort in the spoonfed “pendulum” theory of politics. No matter that the pendulum smacks them in the goddamned head at either end of the swing, because supposedly, it achieves some democracy preserving balance. To my mind, it merely offers a different faux target for citizen discontent every four years, so the same powers behind the powers can continue to extract wealth and sucker the public into consumer confidence and the latest Wall Street Ponzi scheme, or fighting wars to obtain more wealth and to protect what the elites have already piled up.
Yet American tolerance for this pendulum bullshit, for this set of fake choices between two powerful groups of political elites who are dancing in the Washington conga line, asshole to belly button pretending they are alternatives to each another, seems endless”
Joe Bageant was a national treasure while he graced the earth with his presence.
He is sorely missed.
A mind like a steel bear-trap with a cunning and perceptive and intelligent viewpoint.
His kind has pretty much vanished the Earth.
That Bageant was pretty cagey, he didn’t name the ‘you-know-whodees’ but he perfectly described the situation as it was then (& is now) existent. We may see this in the ‘Pragers & the Foxmans’ (part 2 of the Many Faces of the [Lithuanian] Elite)
https://www.counter-currents.com/2019/07/pragers-vs-foxmans/
Robert Mueller: “”I’m not going to get into that. It’s not within my purview.
“You were the head of investigation, were you not?”
Mueller: “I’m not going to get into that. It’s not within my purview.”
“Mr. Mueller, Have you lost your marbles?”
Mueller: “What page is that on? I’m not going to get into that. It’s not within my purview.”
“Mr. Mueller, Are you a deranged lying psychopath?”
Mueller: “I’m sticking to what’s in the report.”
Robert, please tell the committee,
Have you ever, ever
has sex with an underage human being
during your entire life?
Ever?
SSL, Janos
Saw your posts up a little higher. Been out for a couple of days, cataract surgery.
I have definitely noticed that the Anti-white contingent in DC is comprised of more white folks than brown folks. I have been wondering for a while what these white people are getting out of their distaste for their own folks. My conclusion is that their reverse racism stems from a belief that the browns are demographically in controlin the voting booth and they see it as their path to power.
If the revolution happens, I hope the first folks taken down by the Browns are the traitorous Whites.
Browns will eventually vanquish all whites . . .
and push them out of civilized life . . .
on the face of the planet earth . . .
don’t you know that already??
What exactly are you missing about this equation?
Uh-
Why hasn’t it happened before now? Simple question.
Which ethnic group has led the technology surge throughout the centuries. White Europeans.
Browns will never lead the human race. Even now Blacks follow, They want a government that takes care of them and gives them things for free. I am watching the Dem debates right now and seeing the main characters having a contest to see who can give the most false promises. Dems, there is no additional money to give away, you need to figure out how to do more with less. Spend, spend, spend is over and the American public knows it.
Even now, look at the potential leaders on the stage. All white except for two Whitish Blacks. Even in the Dems the Whites lead.
Browns will never take over, ever. If all the Whites disappeared tomorrow, the Browns of all groups would tear the country apart in their quest for power. The US will cease to exist and become another third world Latin country.
Luckily, the Whites will not disappear tomorrow as much as Georgie Porgie would like it to happen
Oh yeah, by the way, look at the globalist leaders that are trying to destroy the US.
They are all White.
Facts, Wikipedia:
The White, non-Hispanic or Latino population make up 61.3% of the nation’s total, with the total White population (including White Hispanics and Latinos) being 76.9%.
This constant, blatant skin-color-only-based BULLSHIT is utterly appalling.
Call it what you want. Socialize this country under Brown domination and it will regress to third world status.
Right or wrong, you can’t do a King Canute act.
Glad that you are back John. The Whites who disavow their people will have a difficult choice one day. The White rebound is beginning and will only accelerate as the pressures mount. America just isn’t America if its not White. Like Angola is not Angola if it isn’t Black. And our cultures are different and don’t mesh really. And that’s ok. Diversity kept at a distance makes the world interesting. But our land? It will be a White country.
Borders create diversity. Keeping diversity at a distance IS Diversity! Trying to smoosh everything together destroys Diversity – at least much of it. You’ll be left with Blacks lead by light skinned Blacks (maybe, but the Haitians killed their mulattoes) and Browns lead by the Whitest browns. The Browns win and then get their asses kicked by the Pure Chinese. Wow, a real improvement? How stupid can people be?
In the new School System, all first graders will play with watercolor paint – and be shown what you get when you mix everything together. Some super duper new color? Or just crap? Some mixing can be create something new – but then you no longer have the two colors you had before – so Diversity is LOST anytime that is done.
The watercolor exercise is a great idea! The beauty of life is how simple basic principles actually are. This being one of them. And to expand on our new curriculum :-), we can even use the example of how the status quo now reveres the rainbow. Well, what is a rainbow but distinct colors side by side rather than all mixed up. If you mix up all the colors you have no rainbow at all!
Yes, the Rainbow is our Symbol in reality – if people would but think. No matter – we will show them.
I admit in actual Rainbows, the colors blend gradually on the spectrum. But that does not mean they don’t exist. That is the sophistry of Voldoya and his fellow travelers.
Oh dear, yes the clines!!! And I guess the way I think about that is that as you have said before two peoples can mix and form a new people that is different from the two founding groups. But that doesn’t mean that because the new group was formed that the former two groups are no longer relevant.
Down at the shore, in the fishing villages and on the piers, nobody seems too concerned about affairs of state, what the president tweeted today, who is or isn’t a racist, the student loan debacle, budget deficits, peak oil, no, I’m asked only two questions, which is the same question:
“How they hittin’?
“Didja catch anything?”
That’s it.
Brh
Chaz Buttigieg has posted a photo on his Twitter account of Chaz interacting alone with a little boy. Chaz posted this photo because Chaz thinks that it makes him look responsible and parental and that people won’t see that Chaz and Pete are sexually attracted to little boys. That’s how psychopathic they are.
Quite an imaginative post, there Pucker! Congratulations on getting your rampant homophobia on that nice tight leash.
The standard profile of a Pedophile is someone who finds opportunities to be around kids. Chaz Buttigieg is a grammar school teacher.
“We need a teacher in the White House.
@Chas10Buttigieg
thanks for making this little guys day!!”
Homosexuals are, generally speaking, NOT paedophiles. That’s a recognized mental condition.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/homosexuality-and-pedophi_b_1932622?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMI0PU5ur2zYc58pPzbYqqEIrjLpk1cs1MXFCUnglZn3w1v7ZJiquLOECcUmZgcU3DtgCtOkID2Zm2HxspsJP6rf0rIXl4OLSN_G6p_KKdVw0eACo0t6fwNk0UtUk0Vl4nTtCKftcu8fNc4TRVsYOxjCa3bk7BXgLj_eKAThax1l
It’s like assuming that ALL heterosexual men are paedophiles because Jeffrey Epstein & pals are heterosexual men.
It’s certainly a sad commentary on you if you just assume that any gay man is looking to abuse children.THAT delusion is probably a recognized mental condition too.
The Homo’s recruit kids.
Yes, pedophiles find opportunities to be around kids, and 99% of pedophiles are married or have girlfriends. (Or have taken the Catholic vow of priesthood). Some purposely get girlfriends who have kids that they want to prey on. The overwhelming majority of homosexual men are not attracted to kids. I’m talking about pre-pubescent kids.
Now do some find teens attractive? Well, do heterosexual men find teen girls attractive? Of course. Most don’t act on it, but the attraction is there.
Pedophilia of course is sex with kids under the age of puberty. Pederasty is with adolescents.
If any homosexuals recruit kids it is the very few militant and deranged ones that are in desperate need of therapy. Most just live their daily lives like you and aren’t concerned about recruiting to add to their ranks.
The Homos think that if they look and act like other people that people will think that they’re normal. This is a big problem for the Queers because they are big exhibitionists.
When I was on an AIDS ward in RN school, I interviewed a young man dying of the disease. He gave me a real run down on the culture of the homosexual community. Exhibitionism was a big part of it. Promiscuity, and assertive behavior also. Not me talking!
Yes, utterly shameless and devoid of humility. And acting this way excites them. And since excitement is everything to them – they’re going to act this way.
Maj would never excuse a straight man acting this way. But her pet queers can do no wrong! This is the usual feminine attitude in the today’s Western World. What utter ruin.
Yes many go through that phase when they are teens and young adults. Then they grow out of it and settle down. Note that you talked with a young man.
A lot of us heteros were wild when we were young too. Ever been to a frat party?
Well, there’s wild, and then there’s “taking a walk on the wild side”. Doing it once while drunk still counts.
What are you trying to tell us, goldpen?
hmuller I’m trying to say that there’s a lot of misinformation being portrayed regarding homosexuals in general by a handful here.
But you probably now think I’m a part of “the agenda”. Whatever.
Carry on….
Just busting your balls, bro. LOL
Yeah I get that now hmuller. I replied before I was fully awake yet this morning. I need to enforce a rule to not ever post before 9 AM.
Get your learn on Pucker. Queer Theory. And when you figure out what Judith Butler is trying to say get back to me. I think it is total garbage. Now before you kick the dog as you usually do; look into this stuff. I think you are going to have to eat it and find we agree.
You want me to research something called “Queer Theory”? Why would I do that?
The Homo’s recruit kids.
and heteros dont rape-molest-abort-distort?? wtf.
Here ya go JS, SSL, and John: A video of Marianne Williamson leading a prayer apologizing for being white.
Let us bow our heads….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1Mxs06hBe8
Man, just wait until the actual primary season begins. Lol… Can it get any crazier than what we’ve seen this year? Yes, I think so.
Even the Blacks and Browns think this is stupid judging from the comments. This prayer was for her and not really anyone else. She can’t deal with her feelings despite being a love expert or whatever so she does this public spectacle to try to tell herself she doesn’t have racist tendencies.
Yes my thoughts were that most blacks would find this “prayer” to be condescending and self serving. They would, and those who have heard it are laughing about it and at her.
Marianne Williamson said on last nights debate she would appropriate $500,000,000,000.00 for slavery repartitions. Divided by 40 million Afro Americans we cut the ex slaves a check for $12,500 apiece. Polls show 73% of Blacks are in favor. DUH!
has anyone but me noticed the size of Elizabeth Warren’s ear lobes? == Q. Shtik
Red Riding Hood says “Oh Granny, what big eyes you’ve got!” and Elizabeth Warren replies “All the better to see you with, my dear!”
Red Riding Hood says “Oh Granny, what big ears you’ve got!” and Elizabeth Warren replies “All the better to hear you with, my dear!”
Red Riding Hood says “Oh Granny, what big teeth you’ve got!” and Elizabeth Warren replies “All the better to eat you with, my dear!”
Now compare the difference in associations to this simple Q question by western audience:
it’s from her Neanderthal ancestry == Volodya
My neanderthal genes want reparations for the criminal way we were treated by Cro-magnons == hmuller
Not out of Africa? why did the kill them off, that is the question. == malthuss
Indian Art portrayed Indians as having very long ears. This may be an indirect proof of her injun heritage == janos
and appreciate the difference in mentalities.
Your point?
He has no point.
He never does.
He is Utterly Pointless.
whats yr take on mine?
Here are a few tests for the candidates that we should ask ourselves.
How will they be received in a debate with Putin, or Xi, or Un. Or the Mullah of Iran. Those mullahs would be trying to figure out how to behead Buttigieg.
Using your own knowledge of home grown economics, does anyone on the Dias make any sense at all. Does the idea that all problems are going to be solved by some action of the government make any sense. My favorite statement made over and over is Trump is doing this but he is wrong. Then there is no legitimate alternative from the candidate.
I have not heard one legitimate idea from this group tonight at all to solve a problem. Legitimate idea, not a pipe dream.
It really bothers me that near 50% of this public does not know any better. These bozos are feeding on the stupidification of America.
…and of that 50% that doesn’t know any better, 43% of them think Trump is their God & Saviour. Poor bastards.
We got ourselves a Hillary Girl here. Another “White” Woman Witch trying to bend reality towards her will.
Here is an titled jewess..she climbed to the top, or close to it.
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So they’ve progressed to the talent show portion of the pageant now, I take it? Good yodelers are getting increasingly hard to find these days. Might spice things up a bit in the staid old WH, don’t ya think?
And yet here we are.
You with your epic TDS which you post about constantly.
You might not be aware of this but everyone on this board is aware of your deep hatred of our wonderful trolling President Donald J. Trump.
Hardly God Savior but almost because we don’t have to listen to Hillary cackle on and at the end of her four or eight years she would have stolen all the china, silverware and pictures again and then blamed the staff as usual!
Well, ladies and germs;
It was reported on the BBC, this PM, that in Chicago, two young black women, mothers both, during a street corner vigil protesting violent crime were…gunned down and killed by a drive by shooter or shooters. The description of the killers was not available, but I have no doubt that it was those marauding Canadians, acting out their perverse proclivities. Bastards.
And…the link;
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49158979
I like the way Black women throw down their own babies in order to fight. And if they don’t respect the life of their own kids, why wouldn’t they kick pregnant women in the stomach and shit like that?
A perfectly horrible race!
you pointed out the PM apologized to the savages for stealing their children.
but they ate their children and forced their children to eat them.,
why do you LIKE it? r u a sadist? or just like seeing babies killed?
malthuss, you are just plain weird at times.
I talked about his alien genes even before he admitted he was part Tribe. How did I know? As the two little girls on the X Files said, I just knew.
But I admit I thought it was extraterrestrial genes not Tribe.
At a schism at the company where I once worked, I began to study Robert’s Rules of Order. My boss asked me about it & I told him we were going to need a Parliamentarian. Lo & behold, a random Black dude turned out to be proficient in this very subject. Otherwise, he seemed very ordinary. Weird. An actual “magic Negro,” lol.
No, just observant.
He posted,
I like the way Black women throw down their own babies in order to fight.
And of course you thought I literally liked the way they threw their babies down.
They don’t want the babies to get hurt in the fight so they throw them as far as they can out of harms way. You want them to hold onto the babies so the babies can get hurt!
Wow.
You’d think an atrocity like that would be national news.
Strange I’m seeing it here first.
What a lying, mendacious, deceitful POS media we have.
Brh
UNZ.COM
Kerseys page. he reports on horrors, regularly.
Very recently a gal went to a salon with her 2 daughters to
confront someone there.
there was a shooting. Her 2 daughters were shot dead and she
fled. She never called for an ambulance.
And this is hard to understand.
What about the new black, lesbian one legged mayor who campaigned against the PD? The world was gonna be made new, an urban utopia. That was just a few short months ago. What happened?
Brh
Chicago sucked I lived there for a year going through military school at great lakes naval training center.
It’s so bad there the Navy people rampaged through the streets over the crime at one point.
https://www.nytimes.com/1979/08/21/archives/bar-owners-sad-sailors-violence-cost-profits-in-great-lakes-area.html
Always has been a shit hole and under the kind and loving Democrat leadership it can only get worse.
Essential. The only real journalist on mainstream TV, Tucker Carlson, interviews the only real Democratic candidate, Tulsi Gabbard, about her law suit against Google. The scum blocked her from buying more ads after she won the first debate – arguably, but plausibly by being the most searched candidate after it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFGAAa91U3o
Will Trump do nothing about the stranglehold the big tech companies have on our First Amendment and thus our entire political and social process?
bagels
If Tulsi Gabbard was strong on the border and immigration I would definitely vote for her. I think she is very smart and capable and that is why she isn’t getting very far. Trump is making a BIG mistake by not tackling Big Tech now. I am not sure if anything at all is going on in the background since his social media summit but they are still censoring content so not much has changed so far.
Janos:
“Will Trump do nothing about the stranglehold the big tech companies have on our First Amendment and thus our entire political and social process?”
Not if it’s not HE HIMSELF who is feeling put upon, and especially if it’s a democrat who’s being put upon.
Marianne Williamson ‘YODELS’ as she gets passionate during Democratic debate – then says she will confront ‘dark psychic force’ and dismisses other Democrats as ‘yada yada yada’
The self-help author had a moment in the first debate calling for defeating President Trump with ‘love’
She said she is ‘normally way over there’ with Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren
But she showed a pragmatic streak on a health care discussion
But she revealed ‘I do have some concern about what the Republicans will say’
Democrats are clashing over ‘Medicare for All’ versus expanding
“The fall of an empire takes time. There are plenty of signs that things are not sustainable.” –Nightowl
Yep, we can learn from history. If we consider “the Roman Empire”, as in, a continuous tradition of Roman autocratic authority/culture, then it lasted from 44 BC until AD 1461, a span of 1505 years. If we consider “the Roman Empire” to mean the Roman state (in some form) that was in a position of modest-supreme power, then it becomes harder, but I’d say the dates are roughly 300 BC to AD 1200, a span of 1500 years. So 1.5 millenia.
I’d say the American Empire has another 1,000 years to go, maybe more. As you say, the fall of an empire takes time. Nothing is sustainable. Everything born dies. Impermanence.
Rome was finished by mid 5th century, Little Jane.
You know that.
Brh
“You know that.”
She pretends to not know that.
She is a fool.
On youtube I keep getting Steyer ads.
I get a kick out of a disgusting, leftist BILLIONAIRE begging for a dollar.
CLIMATE CRISIS. f—him.
What I want to know, the $1.5 billion Obama gave to Baltimore in 2010, what happened to it?
$1.5 billion!
With that much swag pumped into the local economy how could it stiil look like such a dystopic sh#thole?
Brh
Well of course you know that Federal money like that always ends up just lining lots of pockets of crooked locals.
Yep and when Democrats give it away it always feathers the rats nest of fellow Democrats and is then kicked back to political campaigns.
Like Solyndra and Oblamer.
Shame no one went to jail for this!
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2011/09/solar-company-solyndra-rising-star/
I saw a graphic [hence cant copy past] of the 3 black, female mayors.
all had legal problems, one stole from a charity.
all corrupt.
all black crooks robbin the hood.
robbin the hood. how od you like that?
‘What are we to make of a creation in which the routine activity is for organisms to be tearing others apart with teeth of all types—biting, grinding flesh, plant stalks, bones between molars, pushing the pulp greedily down the gullet with delight, incorporating its essence into one’s own organization, and then excreting with foul stench and gasses the residue.
Well don’t you believe it all came together by random chance anyway? If you think about it couldn’t it be a lot worse? Like what if our faces were on our feet? Or what if we required someone else to chew our food up and spit it into our mouths in order to eat everyday? It’s the whole half glass full / half empty thingy. And really we know very little about how the world that surrounds us actually works despite what we tell ourselves in the various echo chambers of “thinking” and “reasoning”.
You are right. It could be worse. We could be animals driven by instinct and nothing else!
Sheesh. What have you taken today, SSL? That makes zero sense.
As to “really we know very little about how he world that surrounds us actually works…”, sorry – but we have 100s of years of scientific observation and really now a GREAT DEAL about how it works – not everything, for sure, but if you tried some ‘reading’ of those who are ‘thinking’ & ‘reasoning’, you could start to get a handle on how things work. Your beloved bible doesn’t give much in the way of hints, you know.
She has become a total and complete wacko,
just like her idols — Janos and Finc.
All three off their meds.
Pity.
Gosh how super original of you! I bet it took some time to get that together lol ;-).
@JHK
It does feel like there is a quickening. More than a few seem to be mentioning it in their columns. And our little disaster porn ho, over at the economics collapse site, I swear, has mutated from his normal deafening shrill to smashed kitty screams.
Gotta love xraymike79. https://collapseofindustrialcivilization.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/img_03911.jpg?w=460&h=455&zoom=2
~toktomi~
Snyder jumped the shark many, many moons ago.
Now, he just feeds off the infected.
Okay, kids, for your next assignment, probably this next Friday, I would like you to express some of your innermost feelings about the world without resorting to your normal boring blathering on about your preferences, prejudices, and interpretations concerning all the trivial aspects of race, religion, and sex or gender.
Specifically, your assignment is to expand on James’ post to include a unique perspective or multiple perspectives from your life experiences. So, be prepared to get off your tired asses, to do some innovative thinking and composing, and to expand the shared awareness.
One more bible quote or citation and we’ll be forced to raze the place.
~toktomi~
One need only parse the comments section you can still find some gems.
@benr
I agree.
However, the signal-to-noise ratio is soiled toilet water, I pose.
Especially from the soiled toilet paper known here as Soft Star Light or
Perhaps better known as > > >
Hard
Moon
Darkness,
Has a nice ring to it, don’t you think.
Hard Moon Darkness.
Fitting.
In reply to CancelMyCard below…
I’m clueless on this, but now I’m curious.
Do you have a story?
You can tok to mi at gmail dot com.
~toktomi~
Oh! Make that above, not below.
Yawn.
Will you be grading our posts? I just posted two things below that will probably upset you. But my intention was not to upset you at all. The current status quo needs to be razed so I probably will post more Bible verses to trigger you into action :-).
@SSL
I sincerely do not comprehend how posting bible verses addresses your perceived need for the status quo to be razed as religious texts strike me as the epitomes of the status quo.
I would offer that rejecting the status quo requires only that one reject the status quo. That is, quit, opt out, stop, walk away, ignore, refuse, and mostly do not repeat or cite or quote any old, stale interpretations of reality that lack authenticating references.
I am repeatedly amazed by the words of perfectly intelligent and educated people, some of them good friends of mine, who adamantly cling to beliefs for which there is no evidence or evidence so thin as to be non-existent. Santa Claus comes to mind along with the tooth fairy, sasquatch, Nellie, extraterrestrial Earth visitors, Bermuda Triangle, prophesy, and political promises.
Here is a strange connection for your consideration. Apparently, there are a number of flat-earthers who are associating the rejection of their theories with a conspiratorial assault on their christian beliefs. I’ve encountered it a couple of times, once over at SGT Report. It really made my day… looking for the hat trick.
Now, go out and have an original thought. It doesn’t have to be purely original for there probably is no such thing; it need only be a thought brand new to your head, something that you have never encountered before. A seed, perhaps: fission
~toktomi~
It was actually just a joke in the first place. I knew from previous encounters that you didn’t believe in any of that anyway and you said you would have to raze the place if one more Bible verse was posted. I guess I thought you were having a little fun and so I was messing around but apparently you were dead serious. I don’t believe the earth is flat. As to some of the other things you mention I guess its sort of like what you said before. We don’t even understand completely or fully perceive the reality we live in. If that is true then I don’t understand how you can be so sure of what really exists or doesn’t at all.
A craze to raze. That is pretty common fare.
Tok,
OK, I will go first…
“We’d be lucky….” Wm Kunstler
I got lucky once…it was good. I used to get lucky a lot…regularly, and it was also good. I now don’t get lucky at all, and this is bad.
The end.
Marianne Williamson … Stands at Armageddon
Battling the Forces of Darkness unleashed by President Trump and his band of deplorables.
She is the Light!
Williamson/ORourke 2020!
“Free weed, kale in every pot, and open borders”
That’s the winning campaign slogan!
Brh
“Free weed, kale in every pot, and open borders”
More like reparations, AGW, climate crisis.
kale don’t fail
You’re missing the obvious upside here:
Free weed and kale in every pot and a family of migrant slaves in every yard, garage, or basement.
Household yard care, childcare, gardening, home repairs, food preparation, laundry, auto repair, and sexual needs all taken care of in one fell swoop. License them like pets, and when one doesn’t work out you simply take them to the pound and pick up a new one.
Good point Scratch, and good use of hyperbole to point out the obvious endgame.
Any way you look at it there is not alot of human dignity involved when it comes to massive 3rd world immigration into the US and western Europe.
Brh
Woot!
Brilliant, OS!
One harbinger of WWI was a generalized desultory void of leadership and drift. Sound familiar? The only real leader that I can now see on the horizon is Putin?
“And so the final week of peace had begun with Austria mobilizing while sending signals that no one was available to receive; with Russia in the first stages of mobilizing while pretending not to be; with Germany beginning to feel directly threatened; and with France’s ambassador urging the Russians as well as the Serbians on. Britain was sending ambiguous signals that the continental powers were free to interpret as they wished. Berlin and Paris were both, for the time being, effectively leaderless. Nothing irreversible had happened, but neither was anyone quite in control.”
G. J. Meyer
A World Undone: The Story of the Great War, 1914 to 1918
Trump resembles Kaiser Wilhelm II?
“As clumsy as their behavior had been at a crucial juncture where nothing less than brilliance was required, they knew Wilhelm all too well—his childish arrogance, his unpredictability, his history of reversing himself and even breaking down in the midst of a crisis.”
G. J. Meyer
A World Undone: The Story of the Great War, 1914 to 1918
Why is it that White People on American Bandstand in the 1970’s appear awkward, uncertain, repressed and stiff when they danced, but the Soul Train Gang dancers appear fluid, natural and dynamic?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kfE1qOvlz-M
Are you seriously asking that question? Oh, it’s Pucker. Of course you are seriously asking that question. Lol…
You don’t believe in Human Biodiversity Theory, I take it. If you want to outrun a lion, you have to do so at the drop of a hat. You can’t plan out your escape beforehand.
What in the hell does needing to outrun a lion have to do with dancing on American Bandstand?
You don’t have to outrun the lion. You just have to outrun the other people with you. Maybe the right kind of dancing teaches “evasive maneuvers”.
Okay, then Tate totally misunderstood where I was coming from regarding my not believe that Pucker couldn’t understand why the blacks on Soul Train danced better than the whites on Bandstand.
Of course black folks are better dancers to pop, funk, soul, r&b, and just most dance-able rock music. Always have been.
I doubt it has anything to do with “evasive maneuvers” in being able to outrun other people getting away from a lion. It has more to do with African culture. The tribal music and dance that they’ve engaged in for many millennia. We wouldn’t even have the blues, jazz, r&b, soul, bee bop, or rock music in the US if the Africans never arrived here. The foundation of all that music is from Africa.
Now maybe the “evasive maneuver” idea is more apropos in explaining why blacks on the whole are better running backs and wide receivers in the NFL.
…..and I think now that Tate was probably replying directly to Pucker. If so then his post makes a lot more sense in the flow of things.
Spontaneity. The Blacks have it; it’s a feature not a bug, within certain environmental contexts, it yields advantages. It’s disadvantageous in others. HBT says that human evolution is recent & copious & has split humanity into distinct subspecies within the last few tens of thousands of years because of local environmental pressures.
““evasive maneuvers”.”
hmuller,
I believe you have stumbled upon a basic truth here. It was once said that Justin Beiber, rogue Canadian, learned his moves while in the womb of his unwed mother…dodging a coat hanger….
I’d love to see the same people dance to
a waltz,
a gavotte,
a minuet,
anything orchestral.
Nope, if it don’t have rappers, they can’t dance.
Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit against Trump team, says claims entirely divorced from the facts
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dnc-lawsuit-trump-campaign-russia-wikileaks-hacking-dismissed
Now that’s an instant classic brilliantly describing the current discourse on the MainStream “news”
entirely divorced from the facts
I just heard that the Chinese military is holding joint military exercises with the Germans.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/07/10/chinese-military-deploys-armored-vehicles-to-europe-for-the-first-time-as-chinese-medics-train-in-germany/
Thoughts?
Sounds like Oceania is now allied with East Asia against Eurasia. No, Oceania has always been allied with East Asia!
benr,
Thoughts? I would expect that the Germans will teach the Chinese military maneuver, and the Chinese will teach the Germans fire drilling….
On the same news series I found this little gem!
A sunken one-of-a-kind Soviet nuclear sub appears to be leaking radiation into the sea
More glow in the dark tuna on the way!
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/fukushima-radioactivity-found-in-tuna-off-oregon-andwashington/
And you idiots are worried about co2?
YIKES
Does the US resemble the teetering Austria-Hungary Empire under Franz Josef? Feckless, fading yet hyper-militarized empire of ethnic diversity with its own group of pseudo-Neocons, like Conrad, eager to project force, particularly against ethic Slavs in Serbia (Ukraine) to fuck with the Russians?
G. J. Meyer
A World Undone: The Story of the Great War, 1914 to 1918
Judge dismisses DNC hacking lawsuit
At the end of April 2018, the DNC filed a lawsuit against the Russian Federation, the Main Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces (GRU), President and Vice-President of the Crocus Group Aras and Emin Agalarov, WikiLeaks, US President Donald Trump, his son Donald Trump Jr. ex-head of the election headquarters of the Republican Party, Paul Manafort, his business partner Dick Gates and ex-Trump’s adviser on the election campaign of George Papadopoulos.
As co-defenders were named the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, the Russian Nuclear Strategic Missile Forces, the Russian Navy and the Strategic Nuclear Aviation of the Russian Federation and the entire North Sea Nuclear submarine fleet.
Gee, that might have gone well!
Actually I have read Hadith about Muhammad’s appearance. Here are just a few sayings of the Hadith on the matter.
Jurairi reported: I said to Abu Tufail: Did you see Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him)? He said: Yes, he had a white handsome face. Muslim b. Hajjaj said: Abu Tufail who died in 100 Hijra was the last of the Companions of Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him). – Sahih Muslim 30:5777
Narrated Anas bin Malik: While we were sitting with the Prophet in the mosque, a man came riding on a camel. He made his camel kneel down in the mosque, tied its foreleg and then said: “Who amongst you is Muhammad?” At that time the Prophet was sitting amongst us (his companions) leaning on his arm. We replied, “This white man reclining on his arm.” The an then addressed him, “O Son of ‘Abdul Muttalib.”… – Sahih Bukhari 1:3:63
Abu Tufail reported: I saw Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) and there is one amongst the people of the earth who (are living at the present time and) had seen him except me. I said to him: How did you find him? He said: He had an elegant white color, and he was of an average height. – Sahih Muslim 30:5778
Maybe Muhammad was an albino.
Muhammad was a Pedo.
SSL, how do you know all that?
Or I should say why do you know that as a Cajun mom from La.?
Brh
I don’t live in a bubble Brh and I am very curious and interested in learning about the world around me. Is that ok with you?
Sure, no offense intended.
Sorry Brh I didn’t mean to snap at you. Sometimes I wish I didn’t care as much. Life would be a lot more simple but I can’t help myself so here we are.
S S L
=
Hard
Moon
Darkness.
Thank you for letting me know how much you’ve been thinking about me.
I have also read descriptions of Jesus’ appearance as well.
Publius Lentullus, President of Judea, wrote the following epistle to the Senate concerning the Nazarene called Jesus.
“There appeared in these our days a man, of the Jewish Nation, of great virtue, named Yeshua [Jesus], who is yet living among us, and of the Gentiles is accepted for a Prophet of truth, but His own disciples call Him the Son of God- He raiseth the dead and cureth all manner of diseases. A man of stature somewhat tall, and comely, with very reverent countenance, such as the beholders may both love and fear, his hair of (the colour of) the chestnut, full ripe, plain to His ears, whence downwards it is more orient and curling and wavering about His shoulders. In the midst of His head is a seam or partition in His hair, after the manner of the Nazarenes. His forehead plain and very delicate; His face without spot or wrinkle, beautified with a lovely red; His nose and mouth so formed as nothing can be reprehended; His beard thickish, in colour like His hair, not very long, but forked; His look innocent and mature; His eyes grey, clear, and quick- In reproving hypocrisy He is terrible; in admonishing, courteous and fair spoken; pleasant in conversation, mixed with gravity. It cannot be remembered that any have seen Him Laugh, but many have seen Him Weep. In proportion of body, most excellent; His hands and arms delicate to behold. In speaking, very temperate, modest, and wise. A man, for His singular beauty, surpassing the children of men”
The letter from Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caesar
A young man appeared in Galilee preaching with humble unction, a new law in the Name of the God that had sent Him. At first I was apprehensive that His design was to stir up the people against the Romans, but my fears were soon dispelled. Jesus of Nazareth spoke rather as a friend of the Romans than of the Jews. One day I observed in the midst of a group of people a young man who was leaning against a tree, calmly addressing the multitude. I was told it was Jesus. This I could easily have suspected so great was the difference between Him and those who were listening to Him. His golden colored hair and beard gave to his appearance a celestial aspect. He appeared to be about 30 years of age. Never have I seen a sweeter or more serene countenance. What a contrast between Him and His bearers with their black beards and tawny complexions!Unwilling to interrupt Him by my presence, I continued my walk but signified to my secretary to join the group and listen. Later, my secretary reported that never had he seen in the works of all the philosophers anything that compared to the teachings of Jesus. He told me that Jesus was neither seditious nor rebellious, so we extended to Him our protection. He was at liberty to act, to speak, to assemble and to address the people. This unlimited freedom provoked the Jews — not the poor but the rich and powerful.
Later, I wrote to Jesus requesting an interview with Him at the Praetorium. He came. When the Nazarene made His appearance I was having my morning walk and as I faced Him my feet seemed fastened with an iron hand to the marble pavement and I trembled in every limb as a guilty culprit, though he was calm. For some time I stood admiring this extraordinary Man. There was nothing in Him that was repelling, nor in His character, yet I felt awed in His presence. I told Him that there was a magnetic simplicity about Him and His personality that elevated Him far above the philosophers and teachers of His day.
Now, Noble Sovereign, these are the facts concerning Jesus of Nazareth and I have taken the time to write you in detail concerning these matters. I say that such a man who could convert water into wine, change death into life, disease into health; calm the stormy seas, is not guilty of any criminal offense and as others have said, we must agree — truly this is the Son of God.
Your most obedient servant,
Pontius Pilate
Another description of Jesus is found in “The Archko Volume” which contains official court documents from the days of Jesus. This information substantiates that He came from racial lines which had blue eyes and golden hair. In a chapter entitled “Gamaliel’s Interview” it states concerning Jesus (Yeshua) appearance:
“I asked him to describe this person to me, so that I might know him if I should meet him. He said: ‘If you ever meet him [Yeshua] you will know him. While he is nothing but a man, there is something about him that distinguishes him from every other man. He is the picture of his mother, only he has not her smooth, round face. His hair is a little more golden than hers, though it is as much from sunburn as anything else. He is tall, and his shoulders are a little drooped; his visage is thin and of a swarthy complexion, though this is from exposure. His eyes are large and a soft blue, and rather dull and heavy….’ This Jew [Nazarite] is convinced that he is the Messiah of the world. …this was the same person that was born of the virgin in Bethlehem some twenty-six years before…”
You do realize that modern scholars are unanimous in finding those source documents forgeries composed 1100 – 1500 AD. Of course, the scholars could be liars with an agenda. Who really knows?
Yeah because the actual scriptures, something that Finc should read more often before he spouts off his BS, actually say Jesus was a very UNCOMELY man who was detestable in appearance. I know, I know some of you, and most likely Finc, are saying, “Well show me the chapter and verse dude”. No, find them yourself, lazy ass. Get to know the actual Book you like to throw at others. Then maybe not talk out of your asses so much. (Not directed at you hmuller, btw).
If you are referring to Isaiah 53.2 which is the only verse I can imagine you are referring to that uncomeliness you talk about is in relation to Him having nothing that the world would find beautiful and attractive (wealth, power, status, etc.).
No, you need to go further. Here, I’ll do it for you….
First I’ll finish verse 2…..”He had no form or beauty, that we should look at him: No charm, that we should find him pleasing.
v.3 “He was despised, shunned by men, A man of suffering, familiar with disease…..”
Most Christians like to spiritualize all of this away and make it into metaphor like they’re reading Plato. No, he was literally ill for most of his life. There are NT verses that back this up, but they are also spiritualized away by all the denominational Christians.
One was a mockery directed at Jesus, “Physician heal yourself!”. He appeared ill to all who saw him. He was obviously sick. He suffered more than just at the very end. He bore suffering and illness his entire life. That is why most religious Jews don’t accept Jesus as the Messiah because the Cretin, I mean Christian, world has made him into this blue eyed handsome guy that they don’t see in their prophetic writings of the Messiah.
Modern Christianity is a joke, and it is worthless. More influenced by Platonism than the Scriptures. Didn’t even Jesus say, “….they will say but Lord, Lord we healed in your Name. Get away from me, I never knew you”? And he asked if he would find any true believers in the end. No wonder.
These are your built in prejudices. We all have them so I understand so here. I will provide you with three different translations of Isaiah 53:3. I don’t get the sense that He was diseased Himself but was very familiar with suffering.
KJV
He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
ESV
He was despised and rejected by men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief; and as one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
NLT
He was despised and rejected— a man of sorrows, acquainted with deepest grief. We turned our backs on him and looked the other way. He was despised, and we did not care
And the other question is if Christianity is so worthless as you say, why do you care what Jesus did or didn’t say?
And now I will provide more context about your assertion that Jesus was told to heal himself. That is not what occurred. Here is the actual verses.
Luke 4:22 All spoke well of him and were amazed at the gracious words that came from his lips. “Isn’t this Joseph’s son?” they asked.
23 Jesus said to them, “Surely you will quote this proverb to me: ‘Physician, heal yourself!’ And you will tell me, ‘Do here in your hometown what we have heard that you did in Capernaum.’”
24 “Truly I tell you,” he continued, “no prophet is accepted in his hometown.
There’s no physical description of Jesus from the scriptures except for what SSL alludes to, but it can be deduced that he must have had a powerful physical presence to exert the influence he did.
Yeah SSL I don’t really think Isaiah 53 is even about “Jesus” at all. Just bored and looking to “have fun with scriptures”.
Bwahahahahaha…..
Now lets get some Gumbo now that I know you’re a Louisiana gal. Love me some Cajun cuisine!
Christian Tradition asserts that it is about him – his crucifixion that is not his natural and beautiful appearance.
Just bored and having fun with scriptures? “Jesus”? All this is very, very dark indeed. Your pen is no longer gold but rather brass or tin.
LOL I bet you do. That’s what a lot of people say when they find out I am from Louisiana. Now the big question is, do you like shrimp and grits :-)?
Patience is a virtue in this regard. I sense an internal struggle as we all go through from time to time. One day he will see the Light. Or perhaps regain the Light since he seems familiar with some of its rays.
Yes I do like shrimp and grits. But the grits have to be well buttered.
Ah easy enough! Well then the amount of butter your get for your grits will depend upon your behavior.
The Roman Deep State was draining his cell phone battery and listening to every word.
Why don’t you order a DNA analysis of the Shroud of Turin.
That might go well for your cause, blasphemers.
Yeah I’ll get right on that. I like to know exactly what it is I’m blaspheming.
Looks like Marianne Williamson attracted a lot of interest through Google searches after the 2nd Dem debate. To paraphrase Chucky Schumer, “Get busy you guys, use your Bernays algos to squelch this thing.”
what do you mean, weirdo?
who really was popular?
it means that you seem to be ‘on the spectrum’, taking Janos’s comment at face value, or is this just an act you’re putting on?
Its a bloodbath in Chicago this week.
Maybe Marianne Williams could go down to the southside, shed some light, and spread some love.
Putin and Xi at the Kremlin, doing shots of Vodka before reviewing troops at Red Square, watching the Dem debates, sizing up Pedro Buttplug, Beto ORourke and Marianne Williamson, incredulous looks on their faces.
WTF is this? they blurt out.
On the homefront, we got trouble here in River City. The guy the cops shot a few nights ago … in a stolen car, 2 stolen handguns inside the car, led police in a high speed pursuit, had 5 felony convictions, is a suspect in a murder from 2 weeks ago, actually got control of an officers weapon in a struggle … NAACP is saying body cams on the cops showing the struggle have been doctored … so now everybody is getting stirred up, its hot, and trouble is brewing. Stay tuned.
Yes Marianne can offer that prayer in the streets, the meanest streets, of Baltimore. I’m sure everyone will have a melting hearts and will turn in their guns, start fixing up their homes and neighborhoods, start paying attention at school and do their homework, and all the Baltimoreans will rejoice, rejoice, rejoice!! Peace will reign!
Then Marianne will defeat Trump with Love and become our 46th President! The Chinese will cry “Uncle” and admit defeat in the trade war. Putin will have all Russian hackers who infiltrated our elections shot and then resign. Okay, well maybe not that. Marianne wouldn’t be down for that kind of justice. Except for, you know, Putin resigning.
Bwahahahahaha……
Cardi B’s Indianapolis Concert Canceled Last Minute Due To Security Threat After She Supports Bernie Sanders
https://www.inquisitr.com/5557814/cardi-bs-indianapolis-concert-canceled-last-minute-due-to-security-threat-after-she-supports-bernie-sanders/
“Rapper Cardi B was set to perform at the Bankers Life Fieldhouse in Indianapolis on Tuesday night, but the concert was unexpectedly canceled last minute due to a security threat, wrote The Daily Mail.
“According to the Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department, an ‘unverified threat’ led the department to advise the singer to cancel her concert. Police spokespeople clarified that ‘there [was] no immediate threat to public safety,’ but advised taking precautions to prevent a potential threat to Cardi’s safety and that of her concert goers. The concert has been rescheduled for September 11.”
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All kinds of people trying to get their points across these days.
Gangbangers? Crips? Bloods?
They’ve been known to shoot up hip hop shows.
Brh
Oh poor Cardi B! Whatever will she do receiving unverified (probably fake) threats. You would think someone who is used to performing for a demographic that glorifies violence and mistreating people would be used to this sort of thing. But then again, there is always a news cycle that we wouldn’t want to go to waste!
S S L
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Hard
Moon
Darkness
Decades later, and the Nixon tapes just continue to yield nuggets of absolute gold:
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/ronald-reagans-racist-conversation-richard-nixon/595102/
Nice people doing and saying nice things. Ah, Ronald Reagan. I’m glad you’re dead.
“Ah, Ronald Reagan. I’m glad you’re dead.”
Elrond,
Well, considering the state of affairs we are in, I think RR would agree with his circumstance.
Think about Jesus for a moment.
Something in his appearance or his message was unique. He had a huge group of folks following him around towards his last days. His message of individual peace and responsibility to God and His Kingdom resounded with a throng of folks at the time.
The Miracle of Jesus started when he came to Jerusalem for the last time. He raised Lazarus in full public view, and if it had stopped there we would be worshipping the human Jesus as number one. Instead, God, the Father, sacrificed His Son, his human representative to be killed in the most evil in humane method of the time. Jesus died and was buried and that would have been the end of it.
Three days later, He was gone from the tomb. From that point He communed with his followers a few times as a human form and then ascended into the clouds and disappeared.
Then Pentecost, where his followers were infused with God’s spirit. Then they converted the entire western world.
A Roman citizen and Jewish priest named Saul started killing these followers of Jesus. Jesus appeared to him and instantly converted this man to become the number one advocate of the Christian faith.
St. Luke, a Roman citizen and physician, left his trade and converted to Christianity. He never say Jesus, but was a biographer as he tried to explain the effect of Jesus to himself. He is noted for interviewing Mary, hence his Christmas story, and working with Paul (Saul).
Anyway, this one Man converted the world with His message of quiet and peace. He is the only religious source that taught that Love is more important than power. Jesus did not teach that conversion by force is fair game and encouraged. He did not teach that one group of men is better than another. The biggest thing, and it was followed by St. Paul, is that people submitting to one another is the answer to the human problem of sin.
Jesus preached that if we follow his teachings, we will achieve the Kingdom Of Heaven. Who knows, maybe He meant here on earth.
If we follow his teachings. So far we suck at it.
I find this helpful:
The message of Secular Christianity is more comprehensible to the secular hearer wishing to understand Christianity stripped of the gaudy mysticism Paul dressed it in. For the traditional Christian, it does not stop their personal belief in God, but asks them to accept that the message of Christ was not to force it on others. Christ’s message was a practical ethic for a successful, caring, unoppressive society for everyone. “God is love” has to be seen as meaningless outside of a social context, and acted upon within society. Those accepting it and acting on it were Christians. They live their lives by the teachings of Christ, whether they believe in God, or Christ himself. To reject his message of social morality, to fail to see it, to be misled by vain mystification, to refuse to love their fellow human beings and even to want to kill them, is not to live a life of Christ, and is not Christian. The kingdom is a social vision of what human life could be like and what the world could become. It is the social outcome of the personal duty to love other people.
http://www.askwhy.co.uk/christianity/0875secularchristianity.php
The kingdom is what human life could be like and what the world could become as the social outcome of personal duty to love other people. Seriously who are you going to like if you were the big guy. Fighting kids or happy play. This is not hard to figure out. I think JHK mentioned a Jewish word that described the concept a few months ago.
Who knows, maybe He meant here on earth.
Yes he did, all that other stuff is marketing. Too bad American marketing is 180 degrees flipped.
I have had that link on my website for a very long time.
In other words, God still loves Hannah even if she had sex in a windmill – even thought Christ said not to. And God will still love her no matter what she does cuz she’s a “strong woman”. Doesn’t sound much like Christianity to me. If we were alright was we were, there would be no need for any religion at all.
Sometimes you love people by hating them. Sometimes you have to destroy the Village in order to save the True Village that has been supplanted by its corrupt form.
Christ does not care that Hannah had sex in the windmill; four times. I’m not saying Hannah is a Christian, you are. All we can agree on is that Hannah might be a slut. Which has nothing to do with any of this.
A young guy can pull off such a marathon if cameras follow him around so much he does not even have time to choke his chicken for weeks. Under such circumstances four times is not exceptional.
I don’t care for Hannah. I’m not a fan. All I see in Hanna is a woman attracted to the brutish in men so that she can feign sweetness and innocence and so not deal with the responsibilities of life. The Robert Crumb mystery solved. Why are the sweet creatures attracted to rudest overbearing line crossing assholes they can find.
Answer, sugar has a price. Hanna should have had her feet bound as an infant because she belongs to another time and another place. A brutal place where she could be kept as the special flower she thinks she is and wants to be. I am woman and I am strong is not Hanna at all. Hanna is a woman without aspiration except to be a flower in a garden.
She just wants someone else to do her dirty work.
Interesting analysis. Not my type for sure and I wouldn’t be hers either. She did reject the most brutish guy – Scott P – the only real Christian among this nest of fake Christians. But he’s no great advertisement for Christianity. When he saw how she was, he should have rejected her right away instead of waiting for her to get on her high horse and reject him.
Who is Hannah?
The Bachelorette.
Janos
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Because most modern Christians don’t follow the true core of His teachings. He came to fulfill the Law. Not replace it. Meaning the Old and New Testament are one contiguous revelation. That is not how most of Christianity is practiced now. Most people choose to only go by certain sayings of Jesus from the New Testament. That is why mainstream Christianity today for the most part is nothing more than a hippie-like movement of feel good prosperity theology, and self affirmation and improvement workshops.
By your definition I am heathen.
‘Whether one is pleased or not, the supernatural is disappearing from the world: only people not of this age have faith in it. Does this mean that religion must crash simultaneously? Indeed not. Religion is necessary. The day when it disappears the very heart of humanity will dry up. Religion is as eternal as poetry, as love. It will survive the demolition of all illusions… Under some form or other, faith will express the transcendent value of life. E Rénan, 1868
Prosperity theology, and self affirmation are no part of the core. Christianity is not about the polish of the individual except in so far that a polished individual is better able to love another. In Christianity all dogs eat or the maxim of love is not served.
I hear your conundrum. In the 70’s and 80’s, during the Cold War, it was brought up that the closest thing to Jesus’ ideal was Communism, The pure kind, not the oligarchical USSR kind.
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I do know that Capitalism without controls will destroy a civilization.
Ah but let’s not forget the verse Thessalonians 2:10 which says “For even when we were with you, we gave you this rule: “The one who is unwilling to work shall not eat.”
Wasn’t Christ the Word & the Substance? Didn’t He not only come to fulfill the Law but he was the fulfillment of the Law. Therefore, the cult invented by John Nelson Darby is a heresy as it elevates the Jews to a special place in the coming Millenium — if there is a coming Millenium.
The Hebrew nation was created to follow the Law of God as given to Moses. The problem here is the bureaucratic mindset of people. I can sit at home, never interface with anyone and never violate the Ten Commandments. I can go and sacrifice every day at the temple, per instructions, and never interface with anybody. Jewish behavior was like a checklist, check off one item after another. It still is.
Jesus taught, and so did Paul, that the true allegiance to God’s Word is inside each of us. If we do not have a personal relationship with God and his people, it does not make any difference how many Lambs you sacrifice. Or if you sit at home, fearing to break a Law.
Jesus said, Believe in me and what I teach. That is it. But from your heart. God will give you grace and forgive your sins.
The world is losing this message and quickly.
No, he did not mean on earth. “My Kingdom is not of this world”. That’s Liberalism not Christianity. The former has all but taken over the latter.
IF people renounce the earth and live for God and Heaven, ONLY then can the earth become like heaven even a little bit. But to say, make the earth a heaven – well that betrays a great naivety and/or vulgarity.
‘My Kingdom is not of this world’ means not to pursue riches as the goal of life. Christ saying to renounce the earth means to renounce the ways of trivial pursuit and shiny things. Christianity is meaningless without a social context.
God said that you will not have any gods before me.
To people, money, power, fame, things are all “gods”
It is easier to put a camel through the eye of a needle, than a rich man into the Kingdom of God.
Janos, the Revelation cult believes that after Armageddon, there will be a thousand years of God’s kingdom on earth. Or something like that.
My Kingdom is not of this world is stated by Jesus a few times. But allegiance to his teachings would allow a celestial earth to be closer to the Kingdom that what is currently going on.
Janos, Google mirror universes. Think Transfiguration and ascension.
Allegiance or mere belief won’t do that – it never has. Thus was the West ever really Christian? But yes, better than nothing and the Lord of Nothing (Abbadon). Hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue. But Hypo will have his pound of flesh nonetheless. No Paradise on Earth, not even a chance under nominal Christians. Only when the truly pious are the majority and they are ruled by actual Saints would we approach it.
St Peter says that the Earth itself will be changed, the elements melted and all things made new in the Final End. This more than just the thousand years and much more than just people plastering sacharine smiles on their faces like Hannah.
Bam!!!!!!!
Pow!!!!!!
“Christianity is meaningless without a social context.”
Quite true, except when the Radical Egalitarians & Globalists want to weaponize it for their own purposes.
Yes this is how I understand it as well. The Kingdom is not ultimately of this world though it may reside within you should you accept it. Thus the reason this world will be destroyed and replaced with a new earth.
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Your obsessiveness reminds me of a certain someone who sent me at least 85 text messages in the span of like five minutes one time. Strange and bizarre and scary mixed in too!
California is at it again. Arrogant Gavin Newsom has done something really important again. I an so relieved.
Is it tax relief, no. Is it putting bucks and resources into the homeless zones? No. Is it giving tax relief to the people of his state so they can stay put instead of leaving for Arizona, Washington, Oregon, Colorado and Texas? No.
Gavin is so happy he passed a law saying that before a person can be put on a primary election in California, he/she has to open their tax records. Gee, I wonder who that is aimed at. What a momentous occasion. I think the Supreme Court will take care of this one.
Just thought of something. Maybe the emigration pressure in California is intentional to push people out to these other states to infect them with Progressiveism. It is working!
It was just a gesture, right? Like Trump has a chance of winning Cali.
The new law is only for the primary, not the general election. Trump won’t have an opponent on the ballot for the primary. So this law is all symbolism over substance.
“Rome was finished by mid 5th century, Little Jane. You know that.” –brh
brh, click, click, ka-ching, Ilhan Omar thanks you.
We are not speaking of Rome. We are speaking of the Roman Empire, both East and West. After the fall of the West, a long time went by with the Eastern Roman Empire remaining as the sole, unbroken remnant of the once all-powerful old Roman Empire.
The Eastern Roman Empire was able to assert its control over the Eastern Mediterranean (and under Justinian I, controlled a lot of what was once the Western Empire too), but by the 7th century and the rise of Islam, it lost almost half of its territory to the Arabs and thereafter fought a futile battle against surrounding Muslim factions for 800 years afterwards.
During this period, it revived itself to a position of supreme power under the Late Macedonian Emperors, such as Basil II, and a strong position under the Komnenoi, but in 1204, due to religious and economic disagreements with West (and a collapse of the Komnenos dynasty), the Byzantine capital at Constantinople was sacked by the forces of the Fourth Crusade. The Empire was never the same again after this event. I would argue that 1204 is one of the dates of the fall of the Roman Empire.
From the 1,000 years I’ll give you a couple hundred years. The American Empire may only last 800 years more. But Nightowl is essentially correct that empires fall slowly. Some might call such a slow fall a Loong Emeergency.
Interesting post with a good historical understanding. I only disagree with the very end. America won’t last past this century. Not as an Empire, or a Nation.
America will survive the United States.
Maybe, but that would be unfortunate. It doesn’t deserve to. The Evil will just grow again since the roots were never pulled out and burned. Saved by the bell? Let’s hope not.
Whites can do so much better than this shit.
I think messianicdruid meant the land mass that makes up America will survive the US. “Turtle Island”, in other words.
And I really meant to say originally that the US will not go past this century. So I agree with md.
Well that’s fairly obvious. But knowing him better than you do, he means American Culture in some original sense. But you can’t put the tooth paste back in the tube. What we can do, that we will do for the sake of money. Thus the fundamental principle is flawed and always was. The lack of technology and the Churches kept American sane for awhile. But absent either one of them, it’s off to the races again. The lack of lack of technology – in other words, technology and thus late stage or Corporate Capitalism.
Okay. You’re right in what md meant.
I’ll just share what I think….There will not be one human left alive by the end of this century.
Git summa dat onya!
No wonder you act as if you don’t care about anything. You don’t really believe there is a reason for living beyond the pleasures of the moment. I don’t mean that in a rude way or anything. It just seems like that’s what it basically boils down to for you.
Me only living for the pleasures of the moment? You don’t know me at all.
My real life consists of taking care of my paraplegic, elderly mother 24/7. Which also means I have had to give up on working full time. If I was as bad as you obviously think I am I would’ve left her for dead, or I guess just killed her myself in order to pursue my selfish nature.
Frankly I think a lot of you here on this site are some of the most detestable people in the world. Especially those of you who THINK you are true Christians, yet are full of incredible hatred for anyone who doesn’t look or think like you.
It is that group here that I set out to mock this morning, the self righteous Cretins. But I decided what’s the point? Some of you are genuinely delusional if not totally bat shit crazy and wouldn’t even realize you’re being mocked.
Good, I cracked you like a pecan! The reality is that you simply look down on most posters here as you say yourself. Clearly if they are conservative, religious, or a White ethnocentrist they deserve your disdain. You make it personal too by actually calling posters here detestable themselves, not just their ideas. The most detestable in the world! You have no idea what other posters here are going through in their personal lives either. I admire that you are taking care of your mother. But you sir are acting as the self righteous one as you appear to be lifting yourself above the “cretins” you seems to know so much about. I tried telling you and I guess I could have said “It seems to me that you act…..”. But I did couch my statement in it seems you know like you come across….I don’t know you personally and cannot accuse you of anything. Just discuss with you what you have posted here.
Yes SSL, your critique of me has merit. Just dropping in one more time to reply to any who replied to this and my other last post yesterday evening. The apology post.
But again, yes your assessment is valid. And again I’ve come to the conclusion that I just don’t do well on Message Boards, Forums, Chat rooms, etc… I have a history of this same behavior and until recently stayed away from all such venues for a long time. I just get too riled up. It is a deep flaw that I’ve always had. At my age I just don’t think it will change. Unfortunately.
Take care
Hey goldpen. I accept your apology wholeheartedly and am not upset with you at all. In fact you actually impress me a lot. You are very conscientious and kind. People have said much worse things than you have here and everywhere else. So while I understand the feeling of wanting to do better (I go through this alot too) I don’t feel like you are particularly bad about getting real angry or mean or anything. I am Southern and I get very intense and passionate. Janos has had to basically tell me to simmer down several times in fact and I should have so I am glad he did. All of this to say that if I have upset you I am sorry and I hope that you don’t go away unless that is something that you need to do. You take care too and I wish you the very best in everything.
Thanks, and I only got upset with you temporarily because I was not thinking clearly or logically. But it didn’t last after I realized that you were right.
I am thinking about just posting some great quotes from people I admire, both living and dead, and from the right and the left politically. That might be a way I can stick around and not get involved in disputes, or create disputes. Ha!
Here’s a few from Joe Sobran who passed away several years ago:
“The Constitution is to today’s federal government what the Book of Revelation is to the Unitarian Church.”
“Whatever the 1st Amendment is supposed to mean, there is still more free speech in the barroom than in the newsroom”.
“An opinion poll may be defined, with only slight exaggeration, as a lie carried out to two decimal places.”
And here’s one I should print out and place throughout the house:
“It’s better to fail at refinement than to succeed at vulgarity”.
-Joseph Sobran from a little booklet entitled “Anything Called A ‘Program’ Is Unconstitutional–Confessions of a Reactionary Utopian”.
“The American Empire may last 800 more years” — Little Jane
Little Jane, what empire?
As far as I know American Samoa, Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands can leave any time they want, all they have to do is hold a binding referendum, ask for their independence, and declare themselves fee from the US. Not 800 years from now, they could do it tomorrow.
Brh
Sure, but what then do we do about the internal ’empire’ that has been created within the continental U.S., oh, since about the ‘closing of the frontier’ proclaimed by Turner & celebrated by latecomer Lazarus?
Do you doubt that the ’empire’ will last 800 years? Me too. A house divided cannot stand. At least janet acknowledges that what we have is an empire, not a nation. Blood is thicker than ink.
Ronald Reagan – a normal guy, a racist. To Nixon on the phone: I saw those Monkeys from those African countries on TV last night, not even comfortable with wearing shoes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Waug7joVOvI
Yet nether one of theme ever let their healthy instincts get in the way of destroying White America on behalf of the Globalists. And that is the Tragedy of America – we knew but we refused to fight the Evil that was imposed on us from above.
The Cucks were wrong again about one of their heroes. Just as they’re wrong to think MLK was a Conservative. Indeed, they’re not right about much of anything, really.
“The tail wags the dog,” Nixon says at the end, & Reagan agrees. Who really pull the strings? They seemed to think it was funny.
Trump aide submitted drafts of 2016 ‘America First’ energy speech to UAE for edits, emails show
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-aide-submitted-drafts-2016-america-energy-speech/story?id=64634140
“When candidate Donald Trump prepared to give a major energy speech during the 2016 campaign, one of his closest advisers provided a pre-speech review to senior United Arab Emirates officials, an unorthodox move that caught the attention of federal investigators, according to emails and text messages uncovered by a House Oversight Committee investigation.
“‘The Trump Administration has virtually obliterated the lines normally separating government policy making from corporate and foreign interests,’ according to a report overseen by House Oversight Chairman Elijah Cummings, a Maryland Democrat, who commissioned the investigation into back channel business dealings between certain Trump aides and Middle Eastern countries.
“Two weeks before Trump was scheduled to deliver the energy policy speech, Thomas Barrack, a California investment tycoon with extensive contacts in the Middle East and who later helped oversee Trump’s inauguration, provided a former business associate inside the United Arab Emirates with an advance copy of the candidate’s planned remarks. The associate then told Barrack he shared them with UAE and Saudi government officials, after which Barrack arranged for language requested by the UAE officials to be added to the speech with the help of Trump’s campaign manager at the time, Paul Manafort.
“‘This is the most likely final version of the speech. It has the language you want,’ Manafort confirmed in an email to Barrack on the day of the speech, according to the report. Manafort has since gone to prison for financial crimes unrelated to his campaign work.”
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Emphasis added by me. Trump carrying water for the United Arab Emirates – this is far more substantial and damning than anything the Clintons cooked up about Trump’s supposed ties to Russia. Speaking of ‘things to come’, more on this coming right up.
For those who prefer video, here’s something that will only take two minutes twenty-two seconds of your time. I’ll provide a helpful transcript. Keep in mind that Tom Barrack (two R’s) is a donor and adviser to the Trump campaign.
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-adviser-tom-barrack-saudi-nuclear-deal
(The video opens with Trump in Bismarck, ND, delivering the speech co-written for him by UAE and possibly Saudi officials, on May 26, 2016.)
– Shortly after clinching the Republican nomination, Donald Trump gave a major speech about energy policy.
– Trump’s campaign asked at least one foreign official to review parts of the speech.
– We have the texts and e-mails.
– The messages start with Tom Barrack, a donor and adviser, reaching out to Rashid al-Malik, a businessman from the United Arab Emirates.
TOM BARRACK: We do u think of his energy message given to American executives with a pro Middle East point of view — for u and Saeed to rebiew [sic] for me quickly. I need a few pro Middle East aspects
TOM BARRACK: It is my own first draft
– A little over an hour later, al-Malik responds to Barrack with suggestions.
RASHID AL-MALIK: This is what I got from them
– Al-Malik shares lengthy pro-Saudi and pro-Emirati language.
– Barrack incorporates al-Malik’s language and sends a new draft to Trump’s campaign chairman Paul Manafort.
Date: May 13, 2016
To: Paul Manafort
From: Tom Barrack
[Attachment]
“This is probably as close as I can get without crossing a lot of lines. Give me a call.”
– The next day, Barrack receives further edits in an attachment from a UAE official. The body of the e-mail said: “This is what we agreed on with our neighbors”
– On the day of Trump’s speech, Manafort sent Barrack a final draft.
Date: May 26, 2016
To: Tom Barrack
From: Paul Manafort
[Attachment]
“This is the most likely final version of the speech. It has the language you want.”
What follows is the specific language from the speech prepared for the Trump campaign by the UAE, accompanied with video footage of Trump delivering that language in Bismarck.
Hey elysianfield, Canada is an oil exporter too. Suppose those remarks had been written for him by Canadians instead of Emiratis. Do you think that could have pushed Trump over the top in the popular vote? Just a what-if.
So what’s your point?
I notice you sh#tkickers in Canada worry more about what Trump says than what your pajama boy Trudeau says. Why do you care?
Brh
BackRowHeckler, you don’t have a clue what I do or don’t think about Justin Trudeau. I seldom if ever post about him (here’s a hint what my opinion is), and on the rare occasions I do it never makes an impression anyway.
America, meanwhile, bestrides the world like a colossus. Even in this time of decline, your military, economic, and cultural dominance means that the fates of every man, woman and child now living or yet to be born hinges on decisions made in Washington, DC but over which we have no control.
So if you want me to shut up about Donald Trump and the USA in general, what you would need to do is to become a normal country. Disestablish the empire, give up the hundreds of military bases, scrap the nuclear arsenal, shrink your economy down to real-world levels, and basically stop being a dangerous force that I and everyone else needs to worry about. Do that, and I for one will leave you in peace. Sound do-able?
I don’t want you to shut up.
Say whatever you want,
I for one never really cared much what foreigners thought of us; I’m not sure how other Americans here feel.
Incidentally, ‘Shitkicker’ is a term of endearment we had in southern New England for the tens of thousands of French Canadians who emigrated to our states looking for jobs. Good people. They liked to drink a little, so what?
Brh
As many times as I have wanted to kick you squarely in the groin, I have to say that your statement above is a sad, sorry and very disturbing description of what my nation has become because it is absolutely correct. We are the Bully of the World and we all know that there is only one way to deal with bullies isn’t there? The only question that remains is when will the rest of the class make the move.
LOL and when China takes the reign as the global task master are you going to be posting rants to Chinese citizens telling them to destroy their country? As if they would listen to you anyway.
Walter
At any time Germany, Japan, SKorea, Scotland, Bahrain etc could tell us get your Navy and Air Force installations out of our country. We’d have to pack up and go. Why isn’t this happening, if, as Elrond suggests, we are an imperialist and exploitive empire? You would think they’d want the bullies out, but that doesn’t seem to be the case.
Brh
You’re on to something there, SSL.
Somebody is going to be top dog, if not us, then China or Russia. I doubt the day will come when all nations sit down together for a big international circle jerk and sing a chorus of kumbaya.
And Canada, where Elrond is from, imagine Canada on its own, providing for its own defense, out from the protective umbrella of the US … what a ripe plumb Canada would be for China or Russia, I wonder how long it would last. Hey Elrond, you don’t like us, don’t come crawling when Xi or Putin decide to bring your pajama boy PM to heel.
Brh
I would suggest BRH that in all of the countries that you mention, the people that hold the reins of power are making a lot of money from their American connection and until there comes a way to make more from alternate sources, they will be happy to tow the line. Whether their constituents are willing to STFU or not remains to be seen.
As far as the Chinese are concerned, I had a recent conversation with a good friend of mine that works in the Pentagon. I said that I do not understand why Americans cannot see that the Chinese are on track to become the next dominant world superpower. My friend told me that it is a guaranteed certainty, the only question is when. Too many of our “leaders” have sold us out for it to not end badly for US(A). Perhaps I am prejudiced, but for me it is always a question of leadership or the lack thereof. Have any “leaders” that inspire faith within your breast my friend? I’m coming up with nothing.
BRH, will you be loyal to our future White Nationalist Republic? Or are we gonna have to call out the hounds? We’ve tried it your way, bucko and look where it’s gotten us. Time to try our way now.
>>> what you would need to do is to become a normal country.
Follow your own advice. Let’s start with your population density. So few people with so much land. We can change that! Accept enough immigrants to make your average population density on par with that of other nations. 58 people per square kilometer is the mean. Canada is at 4. So you really need to beef up those numbers. Do it now. Get back to us when it’s done.
“As many times as I have wanted to kick you squarely in the groin…”
Walter,
You might have to stand in line…
A recent post on our local Craigslist was by a guy who offered anyone to come by his house and kick him in the nuts…hard. It ran for several weeks.
” Suppose those remarks had been written for him by Canadians instead of Emiratis. Do you think that could have pushed Trump over the top in the popular vote? ”
Elrond, I have it on good authority that Trump speaks Canadian…no video voo-doo necessary.
Do not think that the recent outrages in Detroit have been forgotten…your call for us to de-globalize will bring the USMC…Uncle Sam’s Misguided Children, to your borders. Be afraid…be very afraid….
>>> The Trump Administration has virtually obliterated the lines normally separating government policy making from corporate and foreign interests,’ according to a report overseen by House Oversight Chairman Elijah Cummings, a Maryland Democrat
Whoa! You mean to tell us a Democrat is blasting the DEFCON 5 klaxons over something Trump is doing? Shocker!
Since when do Dems care about “separating government policy making from corporate and foreign interests”? Do they not accept campaign contributions directly from corporate interests? That’s OK, right? That’s not crossing any lines, right?
Do they not accept revolving door policies when hiring? That lead directly to regulatory capture?
Obama’s Big Sellout: The President has Packed His Economic Team with Wall Street Insiders
Prince Harry says that he & the Megan Markle will only have two children. There’s both a bright side & a dark side to this.
First, on the bright side is that he will not take part in procreating more than two mulattoes into the higher castes a la Count Coudenhove Kalergi, who conceived of a completely mongrelized Europe.
On the dark side he is signalling to the British & other White European rank-&-file that the more competent should abstain from having many offspring. Generally, today, the more competent & intelligent are having fewer children while the less competent & intelligent are breeding like rats. This will certainly over a few generations continue the process of dumbing down the entire society, leading to a real-life Idiocracy. Authorities like Jane Goodall, to whom Harry was speaking, don’t have the moral authority to discourage the prolific breeders of Africa, even if she thinks she does by virtue of her work in that continent.
Nailed it. This is the Royal Family’s homage to the Paris Agreement—one in which the Third World keeps on trashing the planet while the rest of us sacrifice.
Eighteen out of the top 20 countries in the world with the highest fertility rates in 2017 were in Africa. Niger’s fertility rate was at 6.49 children per woman. In the same year, the US fertility rate was 1.76.
“…the Paris Agreement—one in which the Third World keeps on trashing the planet while the rest of us sacrifice.”
“Niger’s fertility rate was at 6.49 children per woman. In the same year, the US fertility rate was 1.76.”
Per capita CO2 emissions 2015 (t/yr):
US: 15.7
Niger: 0.1
Nice try, guys. Seen in that light those sacrifices are really impressive – and must be so painful. Why not fly over to Niger and tell them about your sacrifices and how they’re trashing the planet. But maybe take some birth control patches with you and hand them out to the poorest. That would be a fine sacrifice.
Life expectancy Niger:
male: 54.7 years
female: 57.3 years
And 84.5 out of 1000 of those children born in Niger won’t live to see age five.
So they won’t be buying too many gas guzzlers to trash the planet.
Hi Alba! I am glad you finally dropped into the conversation. My post of the factoid regarding the high fertility rates in Africa was simply to show supporting evidence for the claim that Africa hosts “prolific breeders”. I do find it interesting that this is where you chose to jump in at but I realize it is because there appeared to be a possibility that Black people were being smeared. Not at all from my perspective. What I find interesting is that in the most advanced countries in the world where fertility rates are going below replacement levels there is a persistent message of the horror of bringing children into the world. And yet environmentalists like yourself are quick to support the extraordinary fertility rates of other populations because they are specifically non-White and not from the 1st world. I myself mentioned nothing about who is trashing the planet. I already know that you believe of course the 1st worlders are destroying the planet. Yet it is hard to imagine how a massive burgeoning population isn’t impacting ecosystems and landscapes. Oh that’s right, it is. That is why there is massive desertification in countries like Niger. I do find it sad and appalling that living standards in those countries are much lower than ours and thus life expectancy is lower. It is sad that the leaders and the thinkers in these nations don’t seem to advance their peoples very much. Clearly the people are not happy themselves since many of these countries are wracked by routine political upheaval and violence. Anyway I never made the comparison of who is destroying more. I think we are all doing a good job of destroying the ecology of the earth.
What you conveniently don’t mention is that all those vibrants you want to bring in here (or at least not fight the effort to bring them here) is that the one thing they do assimilate very well is our material living standards.
That’s one (not the only) of the real concerns. That they aspire to migrate to the 1st world & adopt our per capita CO2 emissions standards.
GreenAlba, explain how a rise in peak C02 from 0.03% of our atmosphere to 0.04% has been more damaging to the environment than 7.5 billion humans? Please explain how this rise has led to billions of acres of deforestation, the loss of habitat and wildlife, the polution of nearly all bodies of water, endangered animals everywhere, etc. Most importantly, explained why the West must make all the sacrifices. Is the deal that we curtail our CO2 usage while they curtail rampant breeding? Of course not.
SSL
Please don’t project your obsessions on to me. I wasn’t the remotest bit interested in ‘black people being smeared’, I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy of the usual nonsense about ‘pollution’ and CO2 emissions being entirely the fault of the poor and their breeding habits.
Tate of course jumps in with another piece of presumption, which concerns my assumed, but actually non-existent wish to bring a whole load of Nigeriens to the West. I fail to see what that would achieve in any direction, so let’s just leave it as a piece of pointless presumption. Well, no, there was a point to it, obviously, but nothing to do with the truth.
Exscotticus, I presume you are aware that the cattle in much of the affluent west eat the soya grown on what used to be the Amazon rainforest, just as the human populations of those countries eat the products made with the palm oil grown there, and just as those same human population consume the minerals extracted from there
The poorest eat the least meat and use the least minerals.
I am absolutely in favour of population control in countries with unsustainable population growth rates. I am also in favour of (voluntary) consumption control in countries with unsustainable consumption rates.
That’s because pollution and greenhouse gas emissions are a function of population and consumption, and the continuous bleating of the favoured of the earth about their ‘sacrifices’ is rather sickening.
“So they won’t be buying too many gas guzzlers to trash the planet.”
Alba,
But only for lack of availability…The Chinese, remember, rode bicycles…until they could afford a Lexus.
“But only for lack of availability…”
I don’t disagree with that, EF.
It’s one reason why I don’t buy the idea that the boomers are uniquely evil either, for their misuse of the planet’s resources.
It’s almost as if some people believe that if the current crop of younger folks had hit adulthood 60 years earlier, they’d have voluntarily chosen to be more circumspect in their use of cars, planes and burgers.
While I utterly sympathise with the plight of our children and their children, there’s no moral virtue in simply being at the back of the queue, when you don’t know what you’d have done if you’d have been at the front. It’s a generational problem, but not in the way people sometimes mean. My kids seem to know that instinctively, which is why I’ve never heard them blaming me.
In fact Singapore daughter is well aware that she’s already had multiple times more flights than I’ve had in my whole lifetime. Although she tells me she’s a good ‘earth citizen’ otherwise. Hmmm…
>>> The poorest eat the least meat and use the least minerals.
Gabon is poor and consumes significant amounts of meat. Moreover, much of this meat is wild “bushmeat” that leads directly to species endangerment.
So this is not a “class warfare” issue. It’s cultural and ultimately a lifestyle choice—just like having babies.
>>> I am absolutely in favour of population control in countries with unsustainable population growth rates.
Great—but that’s NOT part of the Paris Agreement. Show me a single Dem leader in favor of holding the Third World accountable for their population growth?
Out of every 100 people added to this planet, 97 are born in the Third World.
SSL
“And yet environmentalists like yourself are quick to support the extraordinary fertility rates of other populations because they are specifically non-White and not from the 1st world”
I missed that bit. Could you perhaps point out somewhere where I’ve expressed support (quickly or even slowly) of ‘extraordinary fertility rates’ anywhere? I’ve regularly said one of the best things we all can offer as aid is healthcare clinics that offer reproductive care (while you’ll remember the Christian right in the US got Trump to de-finance healthcare centres where abortion was even mentioned in information leaflets, even where it was not practised).
I recall visiting a one-time friend of my husband in Ireland. He and his wife were both doctors in the private sector and had a massive Victorian house in central Dublin. They had six daughters. All pretty, all clever. All, I imagine, will end up married to someone handsome, clever and as well off as them. I’d guess that means 14 cars generated by one breeding pair, as Exscotticus would have it. And they they’ll all have children… (Dublin seemed pretty car heavy already when I was there.)
I think it would be better if people generally didn’t have six children, whether it’s they who can’t afford them or the environment that can’t afford them.
I’m guessing those folks in Dublin have better access to birth control than the poor of Niger. Although it’s not actually that long since they didn’t, but that’s another matter.
Bravo – great argument for not letting Blacks immigrate into Europe (nor “seek asylum”!): They’ll do less environmental damage if kept in Africa.
You’re more brilliant than you know or intend. You continue to serve Us well.
“Out of every 100 people added to this planet, 97 are born in the Third World.”
And as I’ve pointed out before, Exscotticus, your country has 5% of the world’s population and manages to produce 50% of its solid waste, which gives some idea of its disproportionate consumption patterns. Like I said, it’s a function of population and consumption.
I agree the West has been too coy about population issues. That’s one accusation you can’t level at China, though – although its population policy, conceived in desperation, wasn’t short of downsides either.
Yes you’re right Alba I did jump to a presumption. I just assumed you came in on this particular conversation one, because it did involve the environment, and two, my presumption was that it did have to do not necessarily with race per se but because third world countries were being mentioned in comparison to first world countries. But I did word it as specifically because they were Black so you got me on that one. We basically agree when it comes to controlling resource consumption. But we disagree on the population issue. Most Western countries are at negative replacement levels and while I know you might think that is good I do not. Essentially this simply means the West will disappear and the Third World will be the future because as you know population growth is not going to come down significantly there unless trends that we can’t imagine now come into play. The fertility rate in the West should increase and the fertility rate in Africa and throughout the Third World should go into negative replacement levels in order to balance the overall population and the composition of the population.
>>> Like I said, it’s a function of population and consumption.
And like I said, the Paris Agreement did not address population and was therefore patently unfair. Virtually no world leaders demand any population accountability whatsoever.
>>> That’s one accusation you can’t level at China
Agreed.
“Most Western countries are at negative replacement levels and while I know you might think that is good I do not. ”
I didn’t say anything about ‘most western countries’ or whether I thought that was good or bad. I mentioned one wealthy family and how their wealth is doing a whole lot of damage for just one family. I’m perfectly happy for people to reproduce at replacement levels – I’m just pointing out that it’s unfortunate that when wealthy people have big families their progeny are very likely to be huge consumers as well and do commensurate damage to the environment. Much more so than someone with a more constrained budget.
At the same time, if the vast proportion of us are soon to be involved in a huge die-off, I can’t think why anyone who has figured this out would want to have children at all. I certainly wouldn’t have. Who’d bring children into the world knowing something that horrendous was going to befall them?
*a* vast proportion…
>>> Who’d bring children into the world knowing something that horrendous was going to befall them?
GreenAlba, who would bring children into the world knowing that they can’t even feed them? Heck, knowing that they can’t even feed themselves?!
Answer: millions.
BERLIN (AP) — German police have opened an investigation into a report from a prominent Berlin rabbi that he was insulted and spat at as he was heading home from synagogue with his son.
Police said Wednesday they were treating the incident as a religiously-motivated crime and are currently looking for suspects.
Police say Rabbi Yehuda Teichtal was walking past an apartment building in the Wilmersdorf neighborhood Friday night when he said he was spat at and sworn at by two men inside the building.
Teichtal, who said the two men spoke in Arabic, called in a statement for “tolerance, dialogue and training.”
Despite increasing anti-Semitic incidents, he says he remains “convinced most people in Berlin do not want to accept this aggression against Jews as a sad part of everyday Jewish life”
Well, at least he was honest in reporting that the two men spoke in Arabic. As for his call for “tolerance, dialogue & training,” do these well-wishers really think that the brown ‘vibrants’ whose welcome they engineered in to the European homelands will be as receptive to their message as the least ethnocentric peoples in the entire world, who are now busily committing pathological altruism at the behest of Barbara Lerner Specter & her ilk?
Chickens came home to roost.
Rats are leaving the sinking ship of Criminal Trump. Today another one jumped … Mike Conaway (R-Texas) announced today that he will not seek reelection in 2020, becoming the fifth congressional Republican in just two weeks to announce an imminent retirement.
Today also the Fed cut interest rates for first time since the 2008 crisis. Now Criminal Trump’s recession is here. The end is near. Rats are jumping ship… “This sucker is goin’ down…” (in the immortal words of W).
Probably before the year 3,000 Anno Domini.
janet, didn’t you make all these predictions about Trump’s impeachment? Do you want the links?
Click, click — ka-ching — Tom Steyer thanks you.
Next time just add four zeros. More efficient that way! Then Tom Steyer will thank YOU.
Yes add the four zeros that socialist Iran is removing from its currency…
Great idea! A brand-new poll from Morning Consult shows Tom within 2% of Pete Buttigieg and tied with Cory Booker in early primary states. After only three weeks in the race, Tom’s leadership on pushing Congress to stand up to Donald Trump is already resonating.
But I only send money in your name when I am disrespected by you by being called some extraneous unrecognized name.
Buttigieg / Weld (fusion ticket) 2020
>>> Tom within 2% of Pete Buttigieg and tied with Cory Booker in early primary states.
LOL! Keep those contributions going! The battle to avoid being dead last is heating up!
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/23/us/americas-overlooked-gun-violence.html
Most mass shooters are Black and kill other Blacks. Liberals hate this because it gets in the way of the Narrative. They don’t care beyond that though because they are as racist as I am – but in a negative, unhealthy way. If they can blame it on Whites some way some how – then they CARE!
Bullshit, again Janos:
https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/who-are-mass-shooters-mass-shooter-demographics-part-2/
Compared to their percentage of the population, Blacks are disproportionately represented among mass shooters, according to your own linked study, over twice their share of the total population. The stereotype of the spree shooter as being a disgrunted middle-aged White male is shown up as a myth.
Furthermore, from the link:
“Public murderers are often stereotyped as middle-aged white men who have suffered a series of failures in different areas of life, though some research indicates a disproportionate number of immigrants commit public massacres.” (Fridel 2017, 5) [my emphasis]
What’s wrong, Maj, can’t you read a simple table showing the percentages of who actually commits the mass shootings?
Excellent study, by the way. Thanks for the link.
Another extract from your cited study:
“Of the twenty-five mass shootings in the Gun Violence Archive database for January 2019, 16 percent (four) of them were committed by white males; 4 percent (one) was committed by a Hispanic man; 64 percent (sixteen) were committed by African Americans; and in 16 percent, or four cases, the attacker’s race is unknown. As described by Fridel, most of these incidents fell into the felony and familicide categories, and the profile of perpetrators seems to track well with those demographics.
Interestingly, a meme circulating January 27, 2019, highlighted three mass shooters that month—all of whom were white males, in fact three of the four that month. They were likely chosen to make a specific political point—in service of debunking myths about “dangerous” immigrants and minorities—but they were cherry picked and not representative of mass shooters generally. Thus, it’s not surprising why social media users are misled; they are seeing intentionally misleading information.”
Blacks are dummies? Yes, but that doesn’t mean liberals aren’t dummies too.
Not sure what you’re saying. Agree with you but where are you getting this from what I posted?
Where do you live Majella? Do you live in a majority White area? It seems that maybe you are not exposed in any way shape or form to the incessant Black on Black violence of Any Inner City USA. I don’t need statistics to tell me that multiple young Black men will be shot and possibly killed by other Black men in Baton Rouge and New Orleans this weekend. Its an accepted part of life in those parts and reason enough to avoid them.
OMAR THORNTON,
BRANDON HOWELL who mass-murdered at least 7 whites and was convicted this year.
and BILLY CHEMIRMIR, an invader from kenya who mass-murdered as least a dozen elderly in texas, arrested just 3 months ago.
and many others.
The ‘grim Sleeper’ was caught because he had a criminal relative whose DNA the popo had.
Grim may have killed 100-300 black women. But the no snitych rule allowed him to keep on.
……
It seems that around the last time of the breakup of Globalism in the lead up to WWI it seems that the governments were largely bereft of leadership and adrift? Globalism may produce weak national leadership which creates instability and war?
G. J. Meyer
A World Undone: The Story of the Great War, 1914 to 1918
Did you ever get used to taking a shower in the men’s public shower?
I could never get used to taking a shower in the men’s public shower in China. Naked Chinese blokes would always come up to talk to me about American politics which made me feel awkward.
The NO. 1 thing that may set up the winners for 2020 may be the investigations of the DNC, HRC and the framing of DJT. Send a few of the Democratic stooges to the can, that just might show the public what a bunch of creeps inhabit DC. Trump may end up being a shoo in.
Hey guys and gals, I just wanted to do a quick apology post before the day ends, and my participation here ends as well.
I have been out of line at times over the past week to some of you and I do regret this. Especially to Nightowl and Jack Straw. And yes you too Finc. My apologies sincerely. And to any one else at all.
I really don’t belong on this or any Message Board, Forum, or Blog with comments. I just don’t play well with others for the most part. I have a very short temper, obviously. to go along with that is a very foul mouth. I also have a sarcastic sense of humor that just doesn’t go over well on the internet.
So I do wish you all well especially during what I believe are going to be very trying days, weeks, months, and years ahead. Most of you believe this too.
All the best…
You’re probably not going to see this, I guess, but I think you’re being a bit hard on yourself. Perhaps it’s because we seem to see eye to eye on many points that I think I’ll miss you!
Yes I did see it because I wanted to pop back in this morning to reply to anyone who replied to me. Thanks Majella. Oh, and thanks for turning me on to Joe Bageant. I’m really enjoying him and will be reading one of his books soon. Really too bad he passed in 2011.
But the main reason I can’t regularly engage here or on any online forum or chat is because I just get too riled up too easily. It’s just a flaw of mine that I can’t seem to change. I speak from lots of experience from my past experiences on various other boards, forums, and rooms. So its the best for me, and of course others who are potential receivers of my acid tongue fueled by anger.
Thanks again and take care
Joe Bageant’s brilliant – he didn’t let anyone off the hook, including himself.
You shouldn’t worry too much, goldpen, given some of the stuff that gets said on here.
Accepted. It takes a decent guy to apologize after something like that. BTW, the initial post that started it all wasn’t an attack on you.
No worries, goldpen. I’m more than guilty of the same behavior on other forums, too!
Thanks Jack, Green Alba and Nightowl. Like I told SSL above a moment ago, I’m thinking of occasionally posting some quotes from wise folks, both living and dead. Maybe that way I can keep a cooler head.
Here’s one that I need to live by more successfully:
“It’s better to fail at refinement than to succeed at vulgarity”. –Joe Sobran
And another one from Joe for the road:
“You can fool all the people some of the time, or you can fool some of the people all of the time, depending on your market strategy and time frame. With an election approaching, you want to go for all of the people some of the time. Between elections you go for some of the people all of the time, also known as protecting your base.”
For what it’s worth, I hope you will post again. Without going back & reviewing every post you made, (& probably/maybe disagreed with much of what you wrote) you seemed to have a level head about you.
Thanks Tate. And please do NOT go back and review every post I made. Lol… Most of my posts are level headed I suppose, whether technically wrong or right. But there are those in which I posted while in an almost rage. That’s when I get quite nasty and even abusive. And on this platform you can’t go back and delete. I just need to discipline myself to walk away from the computer when I get really pissed, then come back when calm before replying to someone.
If, like Rachel Dolezal, I self-Identity as a black bloke, should I then become a hyper-Black Nationalist to then lead a Movement to return all of my brothers back to Africa? Isn’t this basically a Beto scenario? Beto self-identifies as an illegal Mexican border-jumper.
“I can’t get enough…
Of the Funky Stuff…
I said I can’t get enough….
Of that Funky Stuff…
I said Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa…Yeah!!!!!”
Kool & the Gang
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kfE1qOvlz-M
I wonder if a spouse poking a latex rubber covered machine will be grounds for divorce?
“With technology encroaching on all parts of our lives, the study looked at “robot sex” and one in four singles would have sex with a robot, yet nearly half of singles would consider it cheating if their partner had sex with a robot.“
“I said Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa…Yeah!!!!!”
From the top down, it is what it is. I want peace, not diversity, integration and then conflagration:
https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/ronald-reagan-racist-audio-nixon-110547900.html
So I’m late to the party, but at least I brought a bottle!
Six pack?
Robert Mueller: “I said Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa, Whoa…Yeah!!!!!”
It’s all Pucker from here on out.
Let him dominate,
while the rest of you go home to sleep.
I have a question for the CFN group.
Just read that DeBlasio wants to put on a wealth tax, he just said tax the hell out of the wealthy, and reset the corporate income tax back to what is was before Trump. My question
What will happen to America if the capital base of wealthy folks and corporations just ups and leaves due to high tax. The rest of the world does not charge corporations the high taxes, that is why during the Obama years, corporations left 5his country in droves. The new tax law has started a return but if the old rates return, the outflow will continue. What will the US turn into if the wealth of th 1% leaves and goes elsewhere?
It scares the hell out of me that aholes like DeBlasio is even given credibility by anyone. How the hell did people like him get to the point he is at?
I will attempt an answer. The US is going to turn into a nationwide California – Colorado – Baltimore. If that is what the American public elects into Office in 2020, then they deserve what is coming.
He was elected to a post he ran for.
When have YOU been elected for a post YOU ran for?
Dogcatcher?
Town Hall janitor?
You could not be elected for the street turd-sweeper.
Corporations are simply not paying their fair share. What that share should be is another matter. When Amazon makes billions in profits and gets a tax Rebate of around $129 million it’s easy to see that things are out of balance.
There are probably ways that companies could be penalized for their unconscionable greed and for deserting the very country that made them rich in the first place. The very fact that they would abandon the homeland for MORE MONEY shows just how despicable they are.
Last I checked, over 500 billionaires in this country with a net worth of about $2.4 trillion. Tax ’em good. Let ’em bleed the Green that they worship above all else. And may shattering their false God also shatter them.
TS
$2.4 trillion.
Isn’t the national debt over $20 trillion?
Wouldn’t even put a dent in it and we would be back to square 1.
Brh
The point is that the system is out of balance, way too top heavy with obscene amounts of money. Forget the debt.
For example, let the 500 billionaires keep 1 trillion among them, let’s say. Average it out, and each billionaire would have $2 billion. Now if some bloke is working at 50kper, he would have to work only 40,000 years to reach that amount.
I ask you, what good could you do for this country with the other 1,400 billion? Of course expecting the government to do the right thing with it is another issue.
In this context, the question is valid, “are you a worker or a slave?” Whatever you are, you’re also the tool.
Generic ‘you’.
Amen and hallelujah! Words of Wisdom and Hope.
Bad policy is just that bad policy and deblasio is one of the worst progressive scum to get elected.
You are just exactly like a lot of these chicken-hawk armchair quarterbacks here who are all HAT and no CATTLE.
Bullshit artist that you are.
When you criticize someone who has the BALLS to run for office and take the risk of Blood/Sweat/Tears to put themselves on the line and go for it.
and you, you illegitimate pussy,
sit back on your EZ-boy lounge chair and tell us all your
self-righteous viewpoint
you just show us what a white-washed hypocrite you are.
>>> He was elected to a post he ran for.
So was Boss Tweed. Many times. What’s your point?
Irony: An unelected member of our forum telling another unelected member that they have no right to express a viewpoint because they’re not an elected.
>>> all HAT and no CATTLE
Texan? And you’d rather side with NY over AZ? Well… bless your heart.
Who says I’m unelected?
You?
You don’t know shit.
Never have.
Never will.
>>> You don’t know shit.
You’re right! I’ll leave all knowledge of shit to you, Sir.
AZ/NY, go against this dynamic duo at your peril!
these chicken-hawk armchair quarterbacks – CMC
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I’ve heard of armchair generals and monday morning quarterbacks but never armchair quarterbacks……. hahaha.
“What will happen to America if the capital base of wealthy folks and corporations just ups and leaves due to high tax.” –JohnAZ
1) They would not leave.
2) Where would they go?
3) Why are you fear mongering?
4) If anyone did leave they are showing disloyalty. Trump has said if anyone is not happy here they should leave. Good riddance!
The U.S.A. has the power to disempower these wealthy folks & corporations to their detriment. If they leave, they would not be obliged to submit to the hegemonic power of the U.S.A. (as long as it lasts)? I think not.
Wow! Attack attack. I asked a simple question. I do not give a rat’s ass about DeBlasio. I care about what a very flawed taxation policy espoused by him that I believe will destroy what is left of this country’s economy. Your name calling banter is meaningless.
Tusconspur
You are right about the corporations take advantage of the tax laws. Think though how they do it. Lobbying the corrupt structure that is the Deep State and getting tax breaks from the government. I have not heard one candidate for President even address the issue of special advantage through lobbying, either party.
“Wow! Attack attack. I asked a simple question.”
You DON’T ask a “simple question”
You provoke antagonism with your petulant bullshit.
Don’t give me that simple ignorance.
You are a posturing simpleton.
Wow someone needs to change their undies.
somebody is having an Elizabeth Warren moment, ha ha
Someone on the left figuring out JohnAz’s bullshit? Yeah, we all agree.
The Democratic debates, in the context of peak-oil and societal collapse, were basically an orgy of societal self-delusion and psychosis, right? Democracy off-the-rails…. I heard that that New Age, burned out Hippie chick “won” the debate. They’re all insane….
It was absurd, imho.
Warren/Sanders came off as rage-aholics who believe promising “everything free for everyone” will catapult them to the white house. I think they’ll be sorely disappointed when they attempt to raise the upper tax limit to 75% or whatever figure they are telling people, only to find out that all that money from “da rich” is now safely offshore in thousands of untouchable swiss bank accounts.
Does anybody actually believe they will be able to find money for “free everything” by not taxing what is left of the middle class? Of course they will! They are delusional.
How both Sanders/Warren spoke about how they will fund “free everything” was borderline dangerous. It was like they were simply going to “will” all of these plans into existence. It’s crazy.
‘Da Rich’ won’t ‘move’ anything. They already hold their capital wealth at arm’s length from the IRS & Treasury. But they TRANSACT regularly and in great volume, generating the taxable stuff, ‘income’.
A simple TRANSACTION TAX of something as low as 0.1% on every dollar that is traded in bond stock & derivative markets each day which is currently at $9.1 billion per day, at 0.1% is $910 million per day x 252 trading days = $229,458,222,300. There’s 33% of the current deficit.
If the last tax cuts were also reversed, there’d be a surplus, first since FY2001. Then the redistribution through healthcare for all & free tertiary education could be kicked off.
Co-incidentally 0.1% is ‘one tenth of one per cent’, Bernie’s favorite demographic…
that’s interesting.. 10% on all stock market transactions.. hmmm.. yeah I don’t know. They could try it, I guess. I think maybe I’d look into investing on foreign markets at that point, but that’s just me.
woops got my percentage wrong there maybe
You’d go offshore because of 1 tenth of a penny per $ of a transaction?
Your broker charges you way more than that and doesn’t actually DO much for it, esp if you’re day trading online.
Investing off-shore would not give you exposure to the huge American market, plus you’d have to play around with exchange rate risk too.
9.1 million per day?
that’s a lot of money, regardless. I don’t think a tax on stock transactions would pass the Congress realistically, and if they were to pass legislation for a new tax like that, government would still need… what… something like another 5 or 6 trillion dollars to cover universal government health care annually (?) so, the math doesn’t add up as far as I can tell..
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/2020-candidate-kamala-harris-wants-wall-street-to-pick-up-the-tab-for-her-medicare-for-all-plan-2019-07-29
article about what we are talking about there… so Harris is arguing that 2 Trillion would be raised in 10 years.
OK. Well.. the trouble with that is US health care spending is around 5 Trillion or so a year.. so if you do the math.. 10 x 5= 50 trillion.. and Harris’s plan equals 2 Trillion in those 10 years.. so.. where does the other 48 Trillion come from in those 10 years?
Again what right does the government have to start stealing money to give to someone else.
Is that expressly called out as a right in the Constitution or the bill of rights?
That old axiom of they came for blah and I did not care because I was blah comes to mind right is right and wrong is wrong.
Stealing from one group to give to another is wrong.
Start should really have read and when does the out right theft ever stop?
When is wealth theft enough for the socialist and progressive scum?
When everyone is dirt poor except those that pull the levers of power and everything is falling apart because no one wants to work hard to get ahead? When government steals everything why bother?
The only route to power in the US will become politics if government assumes control over the means of production. Everything else won’t matter.
Simple fix. Don’tr watch them.
Dontcha wanna see how Government by Santa Claus is gonna operate??
🙂 heh heh
On an unassociated note, the Black Moon is rising tonight… oooooo
spooky
https://www.foxnews.com/science/black-moon-coming-tonight
I wonder what that might portend…
somebody call Marianne Williamson ASAP! 🙂
It’s weird that family members often naturally despise each other. I wonder why Nature didn’t fix this problem? I feel sorry for Catherine the Great’s kid, Paul. How would you like to have a mother who has sex with a horse?
“Like Peter the Great before her and like many of her own descendants, Catherine was a perplexing mixture of reformer and tyrant. She was also a woman of great intellect and cultivation, as well as a libertine. She had multiple lovers before her husband’s death, and it is at best questionable whether her son and heir, Paul, was actually the son of Peter III. Her long string of handsome young lovers, most of them playthings whom she was far too shrewd to take seriously except in the boudoir, continued until her death of a stroke at sixty-seven. Unprovable stories about her sexual encounters with a horse have come down to the twenty-first century. Catherine had no confidence in her son Paul; in fact, she despised him.”
G. J. Meyer
A World Undone: The Story of the Great War, 1914 to 1918
At the risk of being vilified and mocked as “conspiracy theorists” more and more normal, patriotic Americans are questioning the 9-11 narrative the deep state and its presstitutes fed us. This could not be happening if the evil witch and her crowd had won in 2016.
See complete story at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-31/ny-fire-commissioners-call-new-911-investigation-citing-overwhelming-evidence-pre
New York area fire commissioners have called for a new investigation into 9/11, claiming that “overwhelming evidence” of “pre-planted explosives…caused the destruction of the three World Trade Center buildings.” The Franklin Square and Munson Fire District outside of Queens, New York made history by becoming the first legislative body in the country to support a new investigation into the events of 9/11, according to Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth.
The resolution, read aloud and passed during a July 24, 2019 meeting and calling for the investigation was drafted by Commissioner Christopher Gioia and was unanimously approved by the five commissioners.
According to Activist Post, Commissioner Christopher Gioia said: “We’re a tight-knit community and we never forget our fallen brothers and sisters. You better believe that when the entire fire service of New York State is on board, we will be an unstoppable force. We were the first fire district to pass this resolution. We won’t be the last.”
I eschew conspiracy theories in general, but 9/11 isn’t a ‘theory’ of the nutjob variety (such as Flat Earth, Chem Trails, Shape-shifting Reptilian Overlords, the Illuminati and so on for freaking ever).
It’s overwhelmingly self-evident that it was an inside job ad I truly hope it gets some real attention.
The most compelling evidence they have—and the first item on their 20-point list—is a lab analysis of dust samples that found traces of explosives.
But explosives were used in the 1993 Trade Center Bombing. That was a huge explosion that gutted the basement and sent dust everywhere. They would have to explain how the traces couldn’t possibly be from that, and had to be from 9/11.
But let’s assume it’s all true. What’s the big picture? The plane attacks were unrelated? A coincidence? No? So they’re related. So why involve planes if you can blow up the buildings without them? To hide the explosions? Why? Tell us a narrative that sounds more plausible than the official version.
The object of the attacks was to provide Cheney/Rumsfeld et al with an excuse to violate the sovereignty of Iraq. Destroying the twin towers wasn’t the principle goal.
Reliance on the gullibility, dupability, and willingness of so many Americans to believe anything their gov’t tells them paid off for the 911 conspirators.
It isn’t necessary to provide a plausible narrative to realize beyond all shadow of doubt that the gov’t version of the story is riddled with lies, inconsistency, and flat out absurdities.
You go, girl!
Bottom line, Silverstein made out like a bandit!
Some of the most persistent contemporary legends about the 9/11 attacks involve people supposedly benefiting from foreknowledge of the event, whether it be a group of World Trade Center workers who “fortuitously” called in sick and escaped certain death that day, or investors who “fortuitously” bought “put options” on United and American Airlines stock immediately before the attacks, thus profiting when the prices of those stocks fell afterwards.
American businessman Larry Silverstein, who famously signed a 99-year lease on the World Trade Center complex in June 2001, two months before the attacks, is at the center of another story about profiting from the event:
Just months before 9/11, the World Trade Center’s lease was sold to Larry Silverstein. Silverstein took out an insurance plan that ‘fortuitously’ covered terrorism. After 9/11, Silverstein took the insurance company to court, claiming he should be paid double because there were 2 attacks. He won, and was awarded $4,550,000,000.
While the story obviously contains elements of fact, it’s also partly fiction — most notably the implication, made via the use of scare quotes around the word “fortuitous,” that Silverstein’s decision to purchase terrorism insurance just before 9/11 was no mere coincidence.
There are several underlying assumptions at work here: that the World Trade Center must not have had terrorism insurance before Silverstein took over; that selecting such coverage was purely optional; and that because he “chose” to buy such coverage when he did, Silverstein must have known in advance that (and when) terrorists would strike.
It’s important to note that, despite appearances, Silverstein wasn’t actually the sole leaseholder of the World Trade Center: He led a consortium of investors and lenders which included GMAC Commercial Mortgage (a General Motors subsidiary), Westfield America Inc. (a shopping center developer), and real estate investor Lloyd Goldman. All these entities had a voice in deciding how much insurance coverage the properties would have, and each had some claim on whatever insurance monies were paid out.
Bear in mind, too, that when we speak of “terrorism insurance coverage,” what we’re actually speaking of is coverage that doesn’t have a terrorism exclusion. Such exclusions aren’t uncommon now, but according to the Insurance Information Institute virtually all commercial insurance policies sold in the U.S. before 9/11 covered terrorist incidents as a matter of course (and essentially free of charge), because the risk was considered so remote. Thus, for example, the World Trade Center was fully covered when it was bombed by terrorists in 1993, and insurers paid out an estimated $510 million in damages after that incident. There’s no reason to suppose that the WTC wasn’t routinely covered against terrorist acts right up until the time Silverstein took over the lease in 2001.
Moreover, upon signing that lease, Silverstein was obligated to insure the World Trade Center. There was nothing strange, suspicious, or “fortuitous,” therefore, about his purchasing an all-risk insurance policy — which at that time would have automatically included terrorism coverage — two months before 9/11, because that’s when he became contractually responsible for doing so. Ultimately, Silverstein wasn’t even solely responsible for the total dollar amount of that coverage ($3.55 billion) because that was the minimum demanded by his lenders, according to a 2002 report in The American Lawyer.
It’s a fact that Silverstein took his insurers to court after 9/11 and asked for double the damages. It’s also a fact that he did so on the grounds that there were two attacks (or, in insurance lingo, “occurrences”), not one. But this wasn’t some premeditated scam based on foreknowledge that a terrorist attack involving two planes would occur. The cost of rebuilding the World Trade Center, which in 2004 was estimated at $9 billion, made Silverstein’s court strategy a virtual necessity. Plus, he had obligations to lenders and co-investors, and still owed lease payments of $10 million per month to the Port Authority.
The court ultimately did grant Silverstein a payout of $4.55 billion, which amounted to about a third more than the maximum allowable for a single “occurrence” by his insurance policy, but significantly less than the $7.1 billion he had originally sought.
>>> Bottom line, Silverstein made out like a bandit!
I’m sure lots of people did. Isn’t it always the case that one man’s tragedy is another man’s good fortune? Didn’t the new developers also make out? The architects and engineers and construction workers and so on?
Lots of people moved out of Manhattan after 9/11. There was a SALE on real estate because the city smelled horrid for like a year. Smart people purchased those cheap units, waited for the smell to dissipate, and were rewarded with prime real estate. Conspiracy?!
A man dies in the city and… someone gets his sweet apartment with the awesome views. Conspiracy?!
Also, please explain to us why the Deep State would collude with Larry Silverstein? He’s not part of their club. They wouldn’t need him to destroy buildings with planes and jet fuel.
>>> The object of the attacks was to provide Cheney/Rumsfeld et al with an excuse to violate the sovereignty of Iraq.
If the entire thing was a deep state back op to reinvade Iraq, then why use Saudi nationals? Why not use um, er, you know, maybe… Iraqi nationals?
And you still haven’t explained why both planes AND bombs were necessary. Do you think the planes alone would not have been compelling enough? If you were prepared to use bombs, why use planes? Very risky using planes. They might have missed the primary targets. They might have crashed into deep state assets.
Nope—doesn’t make sense.
Because burning jet fuel alone could not collapse the twin towers they had to be wired with explosives beforehand.
Because just detonating the planted explosives would raise too many questions (like who wired the buildings, when, how, why didn’t security notice, etc), planes had to be flown into the buildings. – To make it look like the planes brought down the towers.
By the way I don’t think those Arabs flew the planes, I think they were flown by remote controlled, whether by computer or a human hand..
You’re usually very bright, EXscot. But you don’t want to open your eyes on this one, why?
>>> planes had to be flown into the buildings. – To make it look like the planes brought down the towers.
You mean to make it look like planes brought down the towers with burning jet fuel which the conspirators knew couldn’t possibly work?
So they wired the buildings with explosives. Yet somehow they knew that the plane impacts and all that burning jet fuel wouldn’t interfere with either the explosives or their ignition? Ah! Hence your theory that the planes were flown by remote control! Precision guided! Had to be to ensure that they hit in just the right spot and not mess with the wired explosives.
Explain again why they needed to actually bring down both towers? And slam the side of the Pentagon? Wouldn’t a single plane crash have done the trick? Giant gaping hole in building. Burning jet fuel. Smoke and flames and dead people galore. All on national TV. Wouldn’t that be enough? After all, America has gone to war over far less.
And explain again why they used Saudi nationals and not Iraqi nationals if the goal was to invade Iraq?
Why use Saudi’s instead of Iraqi’s you ask? Well first of all, Iraq was not the only country invaded after this event. Afghanistan was first; why not use Afghani’s?
Didn’t you ever hear General Wesley Clark talk about how he was told by Pentagon contacts that the Neocons planned regime change in 7 different mid-eastern countries? Google “General Wesley Clark – Seven Countries in Five Years” and read all about it. Of course, the Neocon warmongers did not completely succeed.
There were many reason for 9-11, not just the Iraq invasion. There was the justification of a total surveillance, fascist type security state we now have. There were records on US Treasury Bond fraud at Cantor-Fitzgerald that needed incinerating. There were precious metals in the basement that needed stealing. There was greater accommodation of Israeli policy goals that needed justifying.
But back to “why not use Iraqi’s”? Maybe the deep state couldn’t find 20 cooperative, suitable Iraqi’s they could enroll in US flight schools. Bottom line they didn’t need Iraqi’s because the US population accepted and welcomed the Iraq invasion despite Iraq’s non-involvement. Doesn’t that make you question how stupid the American public is? All Arabs are fungible, I suppose.
In any case, Bush didn’t cite 9-11 as justification for invading Iraq,;he cited weapons of mass destruction. Ever find those things? Does that answer your question?
No doubt you have an endless line of questions. See my blog a little lower down. Please don’t ask me to do your research for you. I don’t mean that in a snotty way, but it’s just tiring. Especially since I know you won’t accept any of it.
>>> Doesn’t that make you question how stupid the American public is?
I don’t need 9/11 for that. AOC was elected. Q.E.D.
>>> but it’s just tiring. Especially since I know you won’t accept any of it.
LOL I feel the same way trying to get you to accept the simplest answer that fits the available facts. Watch this and read this.
Exscrotticus – if you want answers search for them using google. There is a wealth of information already just sitting out there waiting for you.
There was an additional financial incentive to bring down the towers. There were some enormous financial burdens awaiting the owners of the towers due to pending maintenance requirements. They were benefited greatly by their removal.
>>> There were some enormous financial burdens awaiting the owners of the towers due to pending maintenance requirements. They were benefited greatly by their removal.
Trump’s buildings also faced enormous financial burdens. Somehow he avoided the “jet planes slamming into buildings” solution and came out even wealthier with all his buildings still intact.
You just asked and answered your own stupid question. TO HIDE THE EXPLOSIONS! Last I heard, “Islamic terrorists” don’t have access to nano-thermite or the capability to rig large buildings for controlled demolition. And the official story line is not even remotely plausible, so responding to that is simply a waste of time You really need to try thinking a little more before posting such silliness.
>>> You just asked and answered your own stupid question. TO HIDE THE EXPLOSIONS!
The not-so-dumb question was why? Why hide the explosives?Why use explosives at all? Planes not good enough?
>>> Last I heard, “Islamic terrorists” don’t have access to nano-thermite
Sorry dude you read the report wrong. Here, let me help you out…
the presence of high-tech explosives and/or incendiaries in the form of thermitic material (i.e., thermite, thermate or nano-thermite)
Note the “or”. They’re not claiming that nano-thermite was used. They’re claiming that “thermitic material” was used. And that could be plain old thermite. No nanos required.
Meanwhile, the claim that Islamic terrorists can’t acquire thermite is ludicrous. The 1993 WTC bombing used nitroglycerine and ammonium nitrate dynamite with aluminum, magnesium and ferric oxide particles as a booster. It was even surrounded by tanks of hydrogen gas!
Oh let me guess: that was a deep state black op as well?
Sometimes the simplest answer is actually the truth.
One can only guess at the deep dark recesses of some of these peoples minds.
Anyone that thinks the American government had a direct hand in this should be really really paranoid about expressing it on any public forum!
I think that eye at the top of the pyramid on the dollar bill is watching me!
“The most compelling evidence they have—and the first item on their 20-point list—is a lab analysis of dust samples that found traces of explosives.”
Ex,
By that metric you could then be under suspicion for “injecting marijuanas” and other drugs due to the trace materials found on virtually all US currency….
Honestly, I truly believe that the internet will make us all mentally unstable. It is not a healthy diet.
Spectacle! Shock & Awe – that was certainly achieved.
Co-incidentally, the recent purchaser, Silverstein, got rid of a couple of high-maintenance, low-occupancy asbestos-ridden white elephants and he’d just not long adjusted the insurance policy to double-indemnity if they were destroyed by a terrorist attack. (He even tried to claim TWICE, as there were two planes. The gall.)
The general public, confronted with all this bewildering detail of factual & counterfactual, is not going to be swayed one way or another. Only insofar as it affects their daily lives will it matter to them. The preponderance of evidence is that it matters that they reject the official narrative, that is all.
Exscrottus – If you had a face to face confrontation with whip smart charismatic AOC she’ make your little penis shrivel up like a desiccated butter clam.
Yes we’re all fearful of the “whip smart” ex-barmaid who didn’t even know that we have three branches of government and couldn’t name them all.
“If we work our butts off to make sure that we take back all three chambers of Congress — Uh, rather all three chambers of government: the presidency, the Senate, and the House…” — AOC
Most of the World Trade Center changed hands in a $3.2 billion, 99-year lease deal that was concluded only seven weeks before the attack; with a sweetheart tax deal and new insurance covering buildings and rents — payable to new beneficiaries. — The Blockbuster
The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey signed the deal with the Silverstein-led Westfield America on the 26th April, 2001. Westfield America leased the concourse mall, and [Larry] Silverstein the office portion.
The deal was finalized and celebrated on the 23rd July — just seven weeks before almost the entire complex was destroyed. Port Authority officers gave a giant set of keys to the complex to Silverstein and to Westfield CEO Lowy.
Silverstein was ecstatic at that time. “This is a dream come true,” he had said. “We will be in control of a prized asset, and we will seek to develop its potential, raising it to new heights.” An ironic choice of words, in retrospect. — The Blockbuster
The “arguably sufficient reason” was provided by the impacts and the subsequent structural damage and fire. According to this scenario, then, the purpose of the impacts was not themselves to destroy the Twin Towers but rather to provide the “justification” for detonating the explosives which brought them down in a controlled demolition.
It is interesting, in considering this idea, to look at the actual times that the Twin Towers stood after the impacts. As noted in Section 2, the North Tower was hit first, at 8:45 a.m., in a direct hit and most of the plane’s fuel entered the building, causing a huge fire. Then at 9:03 a.m. the South Tower was hit, but the plane hit the tower toward a corner and at a shallow angle, and comparatively little of the jet fuel entered the building, most burning up outside. In both cases the fires within the buildings died down after awhile, giving off only black, sooty smoke. If the Twin Towers were deliberately demolished, and the intention was to blame the collapse on the fires (as the official story has it) then the latest time at which the towers could be collapsed would be just as the fires were dying down. Since the fire in the South Tower resulted from the combustion of less fuel than the fire in the North Tower, the fire in the South Tower began to go out earlier than the fire in the North Tower. Those controlling the demolition thus had to collapse the South Tower before they collapsed the North Tower. And in fact the South Tower collapsed at 9:59 a.m., 56 minutes after impact, whereas the North Tower collapsed at 10:29 a.m., 1 hour and 44 minutes after impact. These times are consistent with the hypothesis that the progress of the fires was being monitored by whoever was handling the demolition, and that they collapsed the towers at the last possible time, just as the fires were dying down.
The problem was that certain part of elites who lost 2000 election tried to use 911 attack for their own purposes, and all sorts of scum like Michael Moore staged a political show on the bones of the 911 victims, which was directed against US President George W. Bush.
Yep.
Our government knew something was coming and choose to ignore it.
Worse Clintons wall of separation between law enforcement and intelligence all but made it happen.
Being mocked and vilified is a way of life when you are trying to get to the truth. The most plausible reason IMO that 9/11 was an inside job is that it paved the way for government and military expansion that would have never been allowed otherwise. It also brought about the Patriot Act and all the subsequent loss of rights that have led up to today’s survelliance state. The Globalists, Deep State, whatever you want to call them, they needed to do that to get to the point where they finally controlled everything.
Sounds like someone here is using their brain, at least. Good work!
Thanks Ol’ Scratch!!!
The scope and power of government has been growing exponentially since WWII—no deep state conspiracy bombings required.
>>> It also brought about the Patriot Act
This is a post hoc logical fallacy. The 2001 anthrax attacks are also cited as being a compelling impetus for the Patriot Act. So I guess the Anthrax attacks were also a conspiracy?
Was the Oklahoma City Bombing also a deep state conspiracy? Because it led to the passage of the Antiterrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act (AEDPA). Clearly that must have been the goal all along!
Doesn’t government always use ANY TRAGEDY to advance agendas? Four people died from a shooting at the Garlic Festival and Dems are calling for gun control. A deep state conspiracy?!
Christ, someone’s dog dies of thirst, and the next thing you know, there’s “Woofie’s Law” requiring doggie water stations at all parks. Conspiracy?!
Yes to some degree everything is a conspiracy. Not every single incident but how of you know the Deep State doesn’t do false flags?
>>> how of you know the Deep State doesn’t do false flags?
Sure they do. But extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. And if you’re going to say everything’s a conspiracy, then the term loses significance, just as when AOC claims that the border is a “concentration camp”.
Books have been written on the 9-11 topic; there are thousands of hours of YouTube interviews with credible sources. I’m not spending weeks redacting this material for your benefit and education Exscot.
In the end you’ll believe exactly what you want to believe I think you’re a good guy, but you don’t share my concept of the unbounded evil within the ranks of deep state globalists. If you did, you probably wouldn’t be a be able to sleep at night.
@hmuller, when I hear a conspiracy theory, I do a little sanity check. Before we even get to the evidence, I just listen to the alternate narrative. And here the narrative just doesn’t pass the smoke test.
Can we agree that the more complicated a plan, the more things can go wrong? A single plane hitting one tower would have been enough to call for war. There was no need to bring both towers down and slam the Pentagon.
And no Iraqi nationals? When the goal was to attack Iraq? Note that we attacked Iraq even wthout Iraq involved in any way. Proving that if the goal was to gird America for war with Iraq, all this effort really wasn’t necessary. A simple video of Saddam crackin’ wise on our mommas probably would have done the trick.
Exscot, see my longer answer just posted above here.
If the Japanese had bombed just one ship at Pearl Harbor and gone home, would it have made as big an impact?
The NeoCons were talking about a new Pearl Harbor being necessary to justify their agenda before 9-11. Why not go BIG? Frankly, your argument that a small attack would have been good enough, doesn’t make much sense to me.
Maybe 4 planes was their idea of a small attack. Maybe the more extreme NeoCons wanted to set off dirty nukes all over the place. The more people they kill, the better they like it…
As far as the Iraq issue, I address that at length above.
>>> If the Japanese had bombed just one ship at Pearl Harbor and gone home, would it have made as big an impact?
No it would not have made as big an impact. But would it have been enough for the USA to declare war? Easily. And that—according to this theory—was the goal.
>>> Maybe… Maybe…
So now you’re not so sure what the goal was? Maybe nukes? Maybe total destruction of the planet earth? Come on! Look I’m willing to accept your theory that the neocons wanted war with Iraq. Done! But if that was the goal, 9/11 was not the solution.
ExScot, I guess you didn’t see the 4 reasons for 9-11 other than Iraq which I enumerated further above.
There are more reasons depending on how far down the rabbit hole one wants to go. I suspect you take a Zen approach: there is no rabbit; there is no hole.
Another minor reason is that Rumsfeld testified before Congress on Sep 10, 2001 that 2.3 trillion dollars (yes, trillion, not billion) in Pentagon money was unaccounted for. That testimony was completely forgotten the next day as events unfolded.
Maybe they figured a good time to drop such bad news is right before the biggest false flag attack of the century.
“>>> Maybe… Maybe…
So now you’re not so sure what the goal was? Maybe nukes? Maybe total destruction of the planet earth? ”
Who said anything about nukes being “the goal”? I said they could have been “the means” to achieve the Neocon goals (note: plural goals).
To clarify: The means are some form of terror, the goal is control of society.
Have you ever heard about: “Problem, Reaction, Solution” The masters of this world keep fooling us rubes with that one.
The comment about planetary destruction was just a little straw man argument you threw in for good measure (as in I never made it)
But it shows you don’t take anything I say seriously. I may be an inarticulate idiot. But there are people a lot smarter than you or I who have raised issues about 9-11 which have never been answered or refuted.
>>> ExScot, I guess you didn’t see the 4 reasons for 9-11 other than Iraq which I enumerated further above.
I did. And I could add 100 more. But it’s not compelling because there were better ways to achieve these goals.
Explain why they attacked the Pentagon again? I mean isn’t the Pentagon part of the Deep State? They remain as presidents come and go, yes? So explain again why the neocons felt it necessary to slam a plane into the Pentagon when they already brought down the WTC?
Your theory has to account for everything that happened. It has to be more plausible than the official narrative.
Exscot, you ask
“Explain why they attacked the Pentagon again? I mean isn’t the Pentagon part of the Deep State?”
Forgive my candor, but I can’t believe what stupid points you raise, exscot. Do you think the elitists treasure the lives of each and every soldier? Hell no! They are just cannon fodder for those at the top. Why would they mind killing a few underlings and damaging a building – more money for the contractors who repair it.
As far as the plane which hit the Pentagon, why was there no debris sufficient for a plane? Why is there no film footage when surveillance cameras are everywhere around the Pentagon? Even General Stubblebine of MI has questioned the official 9-11 version.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/576464/september-11-attacks-missile-hit-pentagon-army-general-Albert-Stubblebine-conspiracy
Exscot, you ask
“So explain again why the neocons felt it necessary to slam a plane into the Pentagon when they already brought down the WTC?”
I should explain why the neocons used more than one plane to spread terror that day?
Why don’t you explain why Al Qaeda would use more than one plane to spread terror that day. Doesn’t one plane create as much of a terror impact as four planes?
Your constant litany of ‘why this way, and not that way’ begins to appear disingenuous to me. They did it the way they did it, whoever did it – and I’m supposed to explain to you why they didn’t do it your way. Oh Please!
“plausible”
Ostensible? I have difficulty with any uber-conspiracy being plausible….
The 9/11 lie is one of history’s greatest yet most transparent lies.
Did you know that the 911 attacks coincided with a large-scale drills or Russian Strategic Nuclear forces?
Operation Northern Vigilance, was a NORAD operation which involved deploying fighter aircraft to locations in Alaska and Northern Canada. In order to simulate a hijacking situation including terrorist pilots. The operation was a response to a Russian exercise, in which long-range bombers were dispatched to Russia’s high north.
The operation was one part simulation, one part real world. It was immediately called off after NORAD received word from NEADS that the Federal Aviation Administration had evidence of a hijacking. All simulated information (so-called “injects”) were purged from computer screens at NORAD headquarters in Colorado.
On receiving news of the attacks, the Russians promptly canceled their exercise as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_government_operations_and_exercises_on_September_11,_2001
My personal opinion that the certain irregularities in the investigating of the 911 terror attack are due to the fact that “original evidence” – also planted by the real perps of the attack, was pointing toward the Russian Federation, and the whole thing was aimed at provoking a war between US and Russia, which brings us back to the sect of the pedophiles who arranged another similar provocation on July 1 of this year, and who at the time of 911 attack just lost very important 2000 elections and were about to lose a major chunk of their power and wealth.
On receiving news of the attacks, the Russians promptly canceled their exercise as well
Actually, Putin cancelled the drills after he, for several hours, unsuccessfully tried to contact US President George W. Bush.
The Europeans at the outbreak of WWI didn’t seem to have the ability to control what they were doing. Like a runaway train. Diplomats couldn’t control the Generals which in turn couldn’t control the logistics of huge modern industrial armies. Diplomacy breaks under the weight of duplicity. Sound familiar?
G. J. Meyer
A World Undone: The Story of the Great War, 1914 to 1918
Well now, it looks like the PLA is getting ready to flex its muscle inside Hong Kong, both the garrison stationed there, and a division massed on the border. It will be interesting to see what tender mercies Chinese marines bestow on street demonstrators and agitators on the streets of Hong Kong.
Brh
yeah I don’t think Hong Kongers (is that their plural? lol) would do good standing in front of any tanks like their brethren did in the 90s in Tiananmen Square lol
Happy August 1st everybody. Another summer almost out the door, already.
I guess I better check to see if the snow blower still starts 🙁
Happy August 1st Pete! Wow, you must really live way up there in the north country thinking about snow already lol.
well it was 37 F just north of here yesterday so
LOL
Wow that is amazing! It’s like a hundred degrees here but I wouldn’t expect anything different. I bet the fall colors are amazing where you are.
yeah they gonna start changing a few weeks.. they get real pretty.. I like to take a drive up the north shore of Lake Superior in late August, early September.. real pretty
we got a couple months of nice weather though.. or ought to hopefully.. September can be great… low 70s and zero humidity..
70 F with a dew point of 58 F here today
pretty good
SSL, it’s been hotter than that in Europe, and they aren’t used to it yet. Heck, it’s been as hot as that in England, as records are broken yet again.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2019/jul/25/heatwave-uk-weather-set-to-break-records-as-europes-cities-await-hottest-day-live
I’m just glad I live where I do and am encased in sandstone.
Wow that sounds awesome Pete! Hmmm, I think we’ll probably have a 70 degree day with low humidity sometime in November lol.
I have heard about the heatwaves hitting Europe. Is this hot air coming from North Africa? I use a weather site called windy.com and I look over there in your neck of the woods to see what’s going on and every time I check it shows temperature in the 50s, 60s, 70sF all the time so I am like where is the heat?! Problem is, is that I often check at nighttime so obviously the nighttime temperatures are not telling me very much.
SSL, I gave you a link to an article describing the temperatures in July. The figure of 42.6 degrees Celsius, which is the hottest temperature ever recorded in France, corresponds to 108.68 degrees Fahrenheit. This is how it progressed during the day:
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2019/jul/31/i-followed-the-advice-for-paris-hottest-day-it-didnt-help
At midnight, the temperature was 91.4 degrees Fahrenheit, so I’d really suggest going somewhere else for your information if the site you use said 50s, 60s and 70s.
I was in Paris for work on the hottest night and day of the 2003 heatwave that killed tens of thousands of people in Europe and had the mortuaries filled to bursting in Paris. It was 104 degrees Fahrenheit when I got off the plane at 10pm.
And for the UK:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jul/31/uks-10-hottest-years-on-record-have-occurred-since-2002-met-office
“UK’s 10 hottest years on record occurred since 2002”
“In a further indication of how the climate is heating up, the records show that none of the UK’s 10 coldest years have occurred since 1963.”
“Is this hot air coming from North Africa? ”
I think some of it is coming from the deniers in the Republican party 🙂 .
https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-political-scene/a-louisiana-republican-reckons-with-climate-change?utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_072719&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bea0d0e2ddf9c72dc8da3d8&cndid=17965980&esrc=&utm_term=TNY_Daily
#notallrepublicans
@ga
Could it be you just have a serious case of the vapors just thinking about people that deny AGW?
That would be a more realistic assessment of the situation after all.
Nah, benr. People who deny AGW just elicit an eye roll these days. Pointless arguing with them really at this stage.
@ga
I do remember well that if those pesky ruskies did not vaporize us we were all going to freeze to death or so the scientist told us in the 70’s.
Like yesterday flash forward a half a lifetime and lo and behold a different set of “scientists are ringing the doom and gloom bells yet again.
“There’s an old saying in Tennessee — I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can’t get fooled again.”
Sorry to intrude, but more and more scientists are warning of a solar inactive cycle lasting 20 to 30 years (peaking 2028-2032) and already underway. Temperatures are supposed to get cooler on average worldwide – to the point that significantly less food can be grown.
I’m not saying it’s true, I don’t know one way or the other.
Google “Maunder Minimum” if you want to read about it..
>>> Temperatures are supposed to get cooler
Ah the irony if that extra 100ppm CO2 in the air ends up saving us! I’ll demand that GreenAlba take us all out to the local pub. Drinks on her!
“I do remember well that if those pesky ruskies did not vaporize us we were all going to freeze to death or so the scientist told us in the 70’s.
Like yesterday flash forward a half a lifetime and lo and behold a different set of “scientists are ringing the doom and gloom bells yet again.”
Benr
It wasn’t scientists (as a group) who said we were going to freeze to death – that was the ‘media’ who picked up a ‘story’ and ran with it. They weren’t any less harebrained then than they are now, and probably had even fewer adequate science correspondents.
But, like I said, at this stage it’s pointless.
https://skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s.htm
“I do remember well …we were all going to freeze to death or so the scientist told us in the 70’s.”
Yes, that’s what you’d remember, benr. That’s what would stick in your mind. There’s a psychological reason for that, which has nothing to do with reality.
hmuller
https://skepticalscience.com/grand-solar-minimum-mini-ice-age.htm
https://skepticalscience.com/mini-ice-age-myth-still-wrong.html
Bent, climate deniers just really stupid people who are a waste of time talking to. Your kind of folks.
there was racism, environmental racism, food racism, climate racism, housing racism, prison racism, sexual racism… and now…. drum roll please…
Robot racism!
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/01/tech/robot-racism-scn-trnd/index.html
🙂 🙂 ha ha ha
Oh dear! The things that people focus on. Rather than worrying about how robots are going to replace us (if the world doesn’t end as we know it soon) they are worried about what color and shape the robot is!
How can robots replace us if we’re facing an energy crisis? They can be neither made nor operated without energy.
maybe they’ll all be solar powered so if you got agitated or annoyed by a robot you could simply spray paint their panel and shut ’em off. I know I would be doing that, probably a lot.
Ah that is a simple and easy solution!
Another parallel between the situation in Europe just prior to the outbreak of WWI and now is how insouciant the people and the politicians were in the respective European countries prior to August 1914. They were steadfast in their conviction that nothing would alter the status quo. And then suddenly they found themselves in a cataclysmic World War.
G. J. Meyer
A World Undone: The Story of the Great War, 1914 to 1918
Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev asked Prosecutor General to check if burning of forests in Siberia was caused by a deliberate arson.
Earlier, the Prime Minister stressed that the main task at the moment is to prevent the spread of fire to the settlements of Siberia. He called for “intensifying the work of extinguishing fires” and paying special attention to working with the population.
On Thursday, it also became known about a telephone conversation between US President Donald Trump and Russian leader Vladimir Putin, during which Donald Trump offered to help Russia in fighting forest fires in Siberia.
It is reported by the press service of the Kremlin.
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America and Russia might have similar rat infestation problem!
probably a lightning strike
Those peat bogs do love to burn!
California got very curious wildfires, remember?
yes–metal melting.
When Donald Trump offered to help Russia in fighting forest fires in Siberia, I am sure he did not offer American firefighters or firefighting aviation – Russia has plenty of that, but a joint plan of actions for rat extermination activities
who is behind it u think?? who are these ‘rats’?
The international sect of pedophiles.
The international sect of pedophiles, drug pushers, human traffickers, terrorists, and other assorted creeps.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/01/jeffrey-epstein-seed-human-race-report
Whoaaaa!!!
Holy shit..
I see.
why are they setting fires?
to what end?
Lots of weird posts this week.
Here is one self-righteous rat, the former FBI Director:
Graham: Would be ‘stunning’ if DOJ declined to prosecute Comey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd32gz-spRE
“Every socialist is a disguised dictator”
— Von Mises
javohl
Just think. If we turn to socialism in the next election, whose form of socialism will we have, and how many fights will it take to decide.
That is what the Constitution is all about, stopping dictators!
Correction it details exactly what the powers of government are and where they stop.
Might be a bunch of these Socialist/Progressive types would do well to learn about our wonderful Constitution!
https://www.hillsdale.edu/academics/free-online-courses/
It’s free folks might help some of you self professed “big brained” types to actually understand what you undermine everyday.
I don’t think the socialists give a shit about our Constitution.. they want a Marxist revolution.
Maybe the Rats are globalist in scope. They just keep showing up.
Wildfires have exploded over the last decade or so. Different potential causes.
GW. Just drying things out, cyclical? The redwoods of California show indications of frequent wildfires in their long lifetimes. Compounded with beetle kill.
Human set? Accidental or on purpose?
In 1988, the Yellowstone fires signaled a new tactic by Smoky the Bear, to protect dwellings and let nature take its course with the fires.
Another theory may be the concept of climax forests. Trees lift water to their leaves with capillary action in the xylem. Seems to me that trees can only get so big before they die naturally. Could it be that the Smoky the Bear “put out all fires” quickly concept has made forests into tinderboxes with the droughts? Maybe burns are just a way nature renews the forest and forests should be a patchwork quilt of regrowth. In the west, recycling of nutrients is done by fire and not bacterial and fungal breakdown. If so, we are just getting started with the climax forests burning and being decimated by beetle kill. Low capillary pressure in the trunks is what allows the bugs in.
One more thing, underbrush. Without low level fires running through the underbrush burning it out, fire temperatures increase which sterilizes the soil doubling the problem. It also sort of fuses the soil surface which aggravates flash flooding.
The White Mountain Apache Indians have controlled their forests, thinning the tree load and removing underbrush for generations. A wildfire burned up the east side of Arizona a few years ago and when it reached the Indian’s land it just stopped.
My hats off to the Apaches for having more sense than Smoky the Bear in Washington DC.
JEFFREY EPSTEIN, mad? scientist? genius or fake? mossad?
via Drudge,
Once, at a dinner at Mr. Epstein’s mansion on Manhattan’s Upper East Side, Mr. Lanier said he talked to a scientist who told him that Mr. Epstein’s goal was to have 20 women at a time impregnated at his 33,000-square-foot Zorro Ranch in a tiny town outside Santa Fe.
Mr. Lanier said the scientist identified herself as working at NASA, but he did not remember her name.
According to Mr. Lanier, the NASA scientist said Mr. Epstein had based his idea for a baby ranch on accounts of the Repository for Germinal Choice, which was to be stocked with the sperm of Nobel laureates who wanted to strengthen the human gene pool.
(Only one Nobel Prize winner has acknowledged contributing sperm to it. The repository discontinued operations in 1999.)
Malthuss,
I would like to contribute my seed…I have not won (yet) a Nobel Prize…but I DID stay at a Holiday Inn last night….
okay
Malth
Sounds like the SS Lebensborn program in Germany in the 1930s into the 1940s. Similarly, women were kept in houses in rural areas outside mid size cities where they’d be taken care of and have the babies of SS men.
Brh
they should have IQ tested the men and only the 110 and up guys to be sperm donors.
Of course BRH goes into “Nazis”, but in fact, it’s a great idea no matter who says it or does it. Surely you don’t believe the Jews are completely averse to Eugenics? Just cuz they guilt tripped Whites to death about it?
They’ve almost eliminated Tay Sachs disease – a wonderful example of ethnic discipline in the pursuit of a worthy goal, in this case, negative Eugenics.
Note: I don’t say that any way of doing it is alright, namely human trafficking or coercion. Epstein is obviously a very intelligent man who knows human IQ is plummeting. And he is obviously a criminal of some kind. Again Eugenics is getting a bad rap. Genius does have a positive relationship with irrascibility. And the latter with criminality to a greater or lesser extent.
So if a relates positively to b, and b to c, does a do so to c as well? No, because “relate” (the more of one, the more of the other) is not the same as equal. In fact most criminals are dummies or at least having a lower IQ than average. Or at least most criminals that are caught. The really smart ones don’t get caught and/or aren’t legal criminals at all – “just” evil.
Tried to teach my mother chess once. She didn’t have the killer instinct, the instinct you need to storm heaven or overthrow perverse authority and its wrong ideas. SSL has this killer instinct. This Female is Deadly whereas Madge and Evie are just obnoxious.
Janos:
“SSL has this killer instinct. This Female is Deadly whereas Madge and Evie are just obnoxious.”
That’s a laugh…SSL is far from ‘deadly’ – vacuous, more like. And ‘obnoxious’? Surely that’s a case of pot-kettle-black.
Whoa there Janos
I didn’t use the word Nazi.
You can’t deny the similarity between what Epstein was attempting to do (if its true) and the SS Lebensborn program, which apparently wasn’t too successful.
During certain periods in the war on the eastern front, Germany was losing 10,000 soldiers per week, the cream of the nation.
Brh
And both Hitler and Epstein believed/believe that 1+1=2, despite their different views on history and the Jews. I bet the kids born of that program were unusually smart, strong, and good looking. The SS were chosen carefully, I remind you. Surely you don’t doubt the basics of genetics?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/01/jeffrey-epstein-seed-human-race-report
Jews are the real master race Herr Skorenzy.
I think Jewish women can be very beautiful, like many semites, but wow they can also get damn obnoxious as they age 🙂 ha
human IQ sinks as the 3rd world breeds and moves ‘here’
Finally Trump has pushed the DNC so far that they are now eating their own.
Form of attack Barrack Obama to get ahead!
Refreshing to see the current crop of DEMOCRAT CLOWNS ATTACKING ol Obama saying much the same things I have been saying for over a decade.
Eric Holder is now whining about fellow Democrats ripping Obama apart.
You know the same guy held in contempt of Congress toothless as that Congress was!
Hey Eric you should probably go back to screwing California up and keep that fat gob of your shut.
We live in a unique time, even when exorbitant sums are expended in “educating” people whether at the grade school level or later on in life as young adults, nonsense substitutes for fact. At a time when countless people are supposedly inculcated in the art of “critical thinking”, laughable narratives are believed whole-hog by the allegedly enlightened who can’t see the obvious improbability in what’s being touted nor the blatant self-interest in those doing the touting.
As JHK sez, the American Left can’t grok…. well, there’s a great many things the American Left can’t grok, nor the Right. But this inability to grok isn’t just a US phenomenon, people throughout the West took leave of their senses, and this leave-taking isn’t without consequence, because when irrationality supersedes reason as the accepted day-to-day mode, we as a civilization are finished.
Does anybody know Poznan? It’s a smallish city in western Poland, known as Pozen in German. No matter that it’s small, it has got a fantastic symphony orchestra. Maybe in places like this, out of the way of the trends of lunacy that we accept as the new normal, some of what’s Best of the West will survive.
For reasons unknown to me, the South Koreans have produced a crop of spectacularly talented chick violinists.
Now Janos, I know how you White supremacists are about these things, you all have Asian wives and girlfriends. But this one I believe is spoken for so don’t get your hopes up;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7KNd6W5OXo&t=1295s
Ain’t she great? Here’s another, also playing in Poznan, also spectacularly talented:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZScHWV9LtU
If what it takes is people at the far end of the Eurasian land-mass to preserve our own cultural inheritance because we’re too debased, debauched and degenerate to do it ourselves, then that’s the way it has to be. Better it be preserved than not, by people of other civilizations, maybe with the help of Western enclaves like Poznan.
Long live Korea! Long live the great people of Poznan (and hopefully Poland)! Because, as for the rest of us, we’re fucked.
Yes, it’s amazing how much you people hate the Poles. More than the Germans. Perhaps because they’ve resisted you so well unlike the Germans? And because they’re Catholic – that also being the reason for their resilience?
“You people”? Who’s that? Who hates the Poles? Not me, that’s for sure.
Are you sure you do? Sounds like your cool with Poles disappearing and being “remembered” by East Asians.
You have it backwards. Long live the great people of Poznan and hopefully Poland means what it sez. I hope they make it.
PLA forces are massing at the Hong Kong border getting ready to go in and kick some ass. Elrond, to pick up an earlier thread, this is what old time colonialism — the kind you like to accuse us of — is all about. Any problems with the natives, you go in and crush it, no questions asked. You don’t f#k around, this is the Chinese way. Who knows, at some point Xi might get designs on two other islands with Chinese majorities, Taiwan and Vancouver, and, with his reconstituted navy, make a move. Your pajama boy PM, Trudeau, is monitering the situation in Hong Kong and crapping in his pants at the same time. He’d rather die than come crawling to President Trump, begging for help.
Brh
Are you being serious about Vancouver having a Chinese majority? Not just the city? The city isn’t on the island, is it?
new movie w rave reviews—Luce, about an African adoptee genius.
Justin has got multiple problems, most of which stem from the fact that Canada exists at the sufferance of the USA. In other words, what it takes in this world is money and guns, and Canada doesn’t have enough of either. So, if you can’t be tough, you have to be smart. But Canadians aren’t that smart either.
For example, they’re stuck with that Huawei exec, Mengwanzhou, who, if Canadians were smart, would have warned off from landing in Canada. But, like I said, not being that bright, having the street-smarts of Gomer Pyle and the geo-political acumen of ten year old girls, they said nothing to her. And so Meng landed in Canada.
Now, this still wasn’t beyond the capability of a reasonably tough people who could straight-forwardly have told the US to piss-off, that it’s not in the Canadian national interest to arrest this broad and so no they’re not extraditing her either. But no, not smart, not tough and they’re faced with not always smart but really tough adversaries, whether they want to face it or not.
The current disposition is passing, this world will become a battle-ground for what resources remain. But Trudeau and Canadians in general live in a care-bear fantasy-land. The Chinese in contrast, who have no lack of balls, are of a different disposition and Americans also. Time for Canada to find the man-pants.
Well put.
And we have Canadian posters on this board who exemplify exactly what you’re talking about.
It reminds me of the Swedes in the 1960s and 70s, in their moral superiority always hammering the USA for racism, endlessly praising the Black Panthers and black revolutionary groups from the safety of whitebread Sweden … ha ha, look at Sweden today, on fire, with Islam rising, and their “feminist foreign policy” which seens to mean getting f# kked over by the whole 3rd world and young Swedish girls being raped by black Africans … How do you like it now, Sven?
Brh
I remember talk of ‘An American Dilemma’–a book by a swede about USAs Black people?
I believe Canadian provinces have the right to detach from Canada. It was part of the deal with Quebec.
If so, if an area of Canada demographically turns Chinese, could they secede from Canada with a referendum?
This does not only affect Canada, what would the US do in response to this happening?
The South tried to secede from the US and were clobbered for it. Could states, California comes to mind, just secede if they want to? What in the Constitution prevents states from arbitrarily leaving?
Just asking!
Once you accept that a referendum is a valid way for one section of a country, then it must be ok for other sections. Not every country abides by the notion, Spain for one. I remember Benazir Bhutto saying that she’d send in the tanks if faced with a secessionist threat in Pakistan.
As far as the Chinese go, what we see in Taiwan and Hong Kong is no appetite for being under the thumb of Beijing. If there was to be a secessionist bid by a predominately ethnic Chinese section of Canada or the US I doubt it would be for the sake of extending Beijing’s power to North America. I think it would be for the reason that the Canadian or US nation state wasn’t serving their interests and they’d be better off independent.
But I doubt that any section of the US or Canada would be completely one or another race or foreign ethnicity. Rather, if there really was a push for independence by a predominately east Asian section of Canada, there would likely be a lot of support from non Chinese too. if the nation state is that bad the notion would have wide support as it would likely serve everyone badly regardless of race.
Another murder committed by a Syrian refugee, this time, in Germany just after the murder of an eight year old boy by an Eritrean migrant occurred on Monday.
https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/08/01/germany-kazakh-man-hacked-death-syrian-migrant-broad-daylight/
Blame that dick-head Merkel.
and so many others. no one person is to blame.
I will endeavor to tune into PBS NewsHour to get the full and complete story!
oo yeah, Judy Woodruff will be doing a full segment in it … Mustafa, driven mad by climate change and racism, understandably snapped and went berserk, hacking up a neighbor with a machete, … wouldn’t you under those circumstances, and aren’t we all guilty?
Brh
Well, there’s bound to be some growing pains as western Europe transitions from being Christian and white to Muslim and Arab, SSL. Nobody expected it to be smooth. German girls assaulted in a RR station in Colombe, little German boy pushed in front of a moving train in Frankfurt, man hacked up on the street in the middle of the day in Berlin, just bumps in the road, blimps on the screen, no big deal, the program — the Great Replacement — moves ahead as planned.
Brh
Western Europe stopped being Christian long time ago.
I keep wondering why, if we see the advance of the globalists, nobody even seems to want to set an alarm off.
The number one argument for Trump et al.. To keep the SOBs out of this country before they overwhelm us. Damn the Great Replacement, and damn the White Liberals who seem to be fixated on destroying our culture.
John, stop being naive.
Trump is dismantling their vast international network – or rather a pyramid – for the second year now, he does it from the bottom, slowly approaching the throat.
Once, bloody businessmen of the times of Prohibition were condemned after many years, but not for murder and other grave crimes, but for tax evasion, and now the global club of arms traders in exchange for drugs, organs and slaves, will be convicted of crimes against children.
That is no political repressions!
He does seem to be able to use money as a weapon. Problem is his money and my money aint the same. Rubber Rulers and all.
It’s time for the Jews remaining in Western Europe to go and watch movie “Europa, Europa”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_Europa
diversity Finca, diversity!
😉
heh heh
I wanna bang that blonde cop 😉
I’d put some Russian nobility inside her 😉
heh heh
hey guys but…
diversity
(bright rays of sunshine spill out everywhere)
heh heh
Well, probably due to the heavy thunderstorms that rolled thru Ct last nite, the action in Hartford moved indoors. That’s right, no sidewalk shootouts or drive by shootings, weather was too bad, apparently. Instead, a brutal home invasion, keeping it indoors, and keeping it real. The story is 3 assailants busted into a house, pistolwhipping a woman inside, roughing up some little kids, and ransacking the place. An interesting concept, this ‘Pistol Whipping’. In some ways it seems archaic, from the Old West, or what Legs Diamond would do to a mug in Dutch’s gang to send a message. Archaic, but effective, as the woman who got ‘Pistol Whipped’ has been hospitalized in serious condition. These 3 were not master criminals, they were arrested fleeing the scene. Charges are pending. Not suprisingly, one of the distinguished ‘community members’ was named Tyshawn, which is pretty much par for cases like this.
My take: at least they didn’t shoot everybody in the house, which very well may have happened. For that they deserve credit.
Brh
there are a few people out there I’d love to Pistol Whip the fuck out of…
ha ha 🙂
Is this the line to kick El in the groin?
I don’t beat up on the weak or sick buddy
forgot Janos
diversity
“. For that they deserve credit.”
BRH,
Nooo. For that they deserve 15 to 30….
Yeah, prosecuters are reading the police reports as I type this.
It seems like half the perps in the daily police log are named ‘Tyshawn’.
Brh
It seems like half the perps in the daily police log are named ‘Tyshawn’. – BRH
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Or Tyrod, or D’Brickashaw, or the like.
“just as when AOC claims that the border is a “concentration camp” –Ex
The full text of Ocasio-Cortez’s tweet was “This administration has established concentration camps on the southern border of the United States for immigrants, where they are being brutalized with dehumanizing conditions and dying. This is not hyperbole. It is the conclusion of expert analysis.”
Andrea Pitzer, a historian of concentration camps, was quoted making the same assertion: that the United States has created a “concentration camp system.” Pitzer argued that “mass detention of civilians without a trial” was what made the camps concentration camps.
First Transgender President? The Society is insane.
“Filmmaker Michael Moore said in a new interview that there is only one candidate up to the challenge to “crush” President Trump in 2020, “and her last name rhymes with Obama.”
“In fact, it is Obama — Michelle Obama,” Moore said on MSNBC. “Everybody watching this right now knows she is a beloved American and she would go in there and she would beat him.”
Conspiracists like Alex Jones of the alt-right, far-right, elderly-idiot-right (Forwards-from-Grandma-right) and QAnons are spreading this fake news.
Because transwomen cannot bear children, and Michelle Obama did bear children, Pucker is spreading fake news.
Michelle Obama is a black women of high intellect, which scares the shit out of old white dudes, so they do shit like Pucker is doing to make themselves feel better about their tiny dicks.
If you got a strand of Michelle Obama’s hair from her hair brush would it be possible to do a DNA test in order to ascertain affirmatively Michelle’s gender? In one interview many years ago, Barack refers to Michelle as “Michael”.
They’re obviously insane….
If you got a strand of Criminal Trump’s hair from his hair brush would it be possible to do a DNA test in order to ascertain affirmatively Criminal Trump’s gender?
Little Jane
You mean ‘Big Mike’?
Brh
Michelle Obama isn’t transgender LOL
but I’d bet she could kick the shit out of Bruce Jenner
..which maybe he needs, I don’t know
North Korea is at it again, testing a third set of missiles in just over a week. If anyone thought Criminal Trump’s personal friendship with Kim Jong Un would make these threatening moves go away, it’s officially time to think again.
Obama was in office for eight years. What did he accomplish with regard to Kim Jong Un? Oh that’s right: NOTHING.
Still we should rejoice. At least Obama didn’t ship secret pallets of cash to Kim Jong Un like he sent to Iran. So there’s that!
Reading here today brought back memories of Slim Pickens as Major Kong.
nice!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/01/jeffrey-epstein-seed-human-race-report
Epstein was carrying on his own private eugenics project
wow
Gregory Hood, American Renaissance
Almost everyone knows Brown v. Board of Education banned school segregation. Few know that the justices said segregation was wrong because it made blacks feel inferior.
Today, many people celebrate white inferiority.
Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said that her grandson’s birthday wish was to have “brown skin and brown eyes.” She called this “so beautiful.” At a website that teaches parents about “raising race conscious children,” one mother brags that because of her lessons about “white privilege,” her six-year-old said through her tears, “I wish I were black.” The late David Yeagley recalled that one of his white students told him that it’s great he could be proud of his American Indian heritage, because she had no heritage. “My culture is nothing,” she said.
Rachel Dolezal famously claimed she was transracial. One Huffington Post writer sympathized in a column called “I Sometimes Don’t Want to Be White Either:”
There was a time in my 20s when everything I learned about the history of racism made me hate myself, my Whiteness, my ancestors . . . and my descendants. I remember deciding that I couldn’t have biological children because I didn’t want to propagate my privilege biologically.
“White people do have culture,” writes an author in Terra Incognita. “Our culture is that of colonization. Of genocide. Of taking. Of envy and of fear.”
James Baldwin wrote that there are no whites, just people who “think they are white.” When President Trump said Al Sharpton hates whites, many reporters put “whites” in scare quotes.
Even though we don’t exist, we can be identified. Blacks rejected Rachel Dolezal’s claim that she was “transracial.” According to “anti-racist educators” Robin DiAngelo, all whites are racist and have unearned privilege. Whites’ “DNA is an abomination” according to one college newspaper op-ed.
The media and academia constantly belittle whites, so it’s not surprising many whites are desperate to be something else. Elizabeth Warren’s comical effort to be an Indian is a small example. Whites who claim bizarre sexual or species identities, or highlight mental illness in their Twitter profiles, may also be trying to avoid being nothing more than white. They want some way out of the “oppressor” class.
It is widely acknowledged that media depictions affect the psychological health of blacks or Hispanics. What about whites? When the Netflix series 13 Reasons Why appeared to glamorize suicide, teen suicides rose around the country. If school segregation hurt the feelings of blacks, whites today are suffering just as dramatically.
The suicide rate for middle-aged whites is high. The drug-related mortality rate is higher for whites than for blacks or Hispanics. These “deaths of despair” through drugs, alcohol, or guns led Steve Sailer to write that whites are behaving like a “defeated and despairing race.” If resisting dispossession is immoral, and you are evil because you are white, why not kill yourself?
Almost one year ago, Robert Russell, a white airport baggage handler, stole an airplane. In a rambling conversation with air traffic control, he said he wasn’t going to hurt anyone. He admitted he was a broken guy. He said he wasn’t “really planning on landing,” and apologized to loved ones on the ground. He flew for nearly an hour, before crashing the plane, doing a barrel roll and other maneuvers that surprised observers. At one point, an air traffic controller told Russell that if he could land the plane, he could get any job. “Nah,” said Russell, “I’m a white guy.”
Friends and family said they were baffled by his death, but many whites seemed to understand. They called him “Sky King.” Russell wasn’t a failure in life, but he felt he lacked something. He took to the sky for a moment of glory before he ended it all. His story is tragi-heroic.
It’s not surprising so many whites want a way out. In The Ethnostate, Wilmot Robertson argued that “demoralization” is a dire threat to populations. “If you are not permitted to utter or hear one good word about your own people,” he wrote, “then no matter how great your capabilities, you will be hard put to overcome the mental and physical paralysis imposed by demoralization.” Robertson said whites could resist “demoralization” by “blacking out the media.” Today, that’s almost impossible.
Whites need racial identity not just so they can make sensible public policy. We need it not just to save our country. We need it not just to keep alive the possibility of future greatness. We need it too for a simpler reason: to keep on living. Without a feeling of race, of connectedness, of purpose, whites are alienated from themselves and each other. We see the results all around us: brainwashed children, self-loathing adults, middle-aged opioid addicts, deracinated consumers who live for nothing but a corporate franchise.
Racial identity is a necessary part of individual and group identity. We whites aren’t some unique “construct” of nothing but hatred and oppression.
We exist. We have the right to exist. We don’t need to justify it. Our race built great nations, created wonders, and conquered space. We will do much more when we awaken.
White advocates help our people do that. We face oppression, hardship, and violence, but the alternative is collective suicide. Individually, many of our brothers and sisters are making that choice. We must show them the right way.
There is nothing more thrilling than life with purpose. What purpose could be greater than saving your people? Unlike Nancy Pelosi, I want my grandchildren to look up at me and say, “I’m proud of who I am.”
JS: Resist Defamation and organize. Lift high the Flag and the masses will rally to our Cause, our Sacred Cause. Leftists will come faster and in greater numbers than Fan Boys of Israel. Bizarre and Tragic – but the simple Truth.
‘LUCE’
I think you’ll have to fight Elrond for Emperor of Lilliput, buddy.
Pete,
We now know that Elrond abhors violence for any purpose…he would submit…he would believe himself morally superior, but he would ultimately decide that any outrage against him would not be worthy of a violent response.
Jew, Fanboy thereof, or Staus Quo junky.
>>> Nancy Pelosi said that her grandson’s birthday wish was to have “brown skin and brown eyes.” She called this “so beautiful.”
This immediately triggered my bullshit alarm so I looked it up. Confirmed!
The Founding Fathers limited the franchise to a narrow group of property owners. “The Federalist Papers” was basically a a long missive against the dangers of excessive democracy based upon the ancient Greek’s disaster with democracy.
Americans now seem to be fond of the phrase “Circle Back” meaning to revert. Like they’re a pilot flying a plane…or the Flying Sub….
When did this phenomenon start?
Isn’t it true that there’s a giant floating island of discarded plastic rubbish about the size of Texas floating around the Pacific Ocean? Bizarre creatures that resemble transgender Rachel Maddow must live on it? I heard that the chemicals in plastic turn people into transgenders. It’s like some kind of H.G. Wells futuristic Dystopia….
Oprah’s always trying to motivate black people to read books. Isn’t it now “All The Rage” in Seattle to pay drag queens dressed in lurid colored flamboyant dresses to read stories to young kids? What’s that all about? What Gives? Are they just Nuts?
“Are they just Nuts?’
Puck,
Nooo, the rest of the body parts are there, also.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54fe-4yAle8
reality pretending to be comedy
Jeffrey Epstein: “Did Beto say “Free the Kids”, or “Free Kids”?”
Robert Mueller: “That’s not within my purview.”
I trust Don Cornelius of the “Soul Train” to make a determination as to the true gender of Michelle Obama? One can probably make a determination of a person’s sex from the way that he/ she dances on the dance floor?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qXbP4JBf8To&list=PLEQrjyOm8SdC4JRVaNO8QdYpc_iPw_-5B&index=5&t=0s
that’s great!! thanks bud
Something for SSL:
Having been skeptical about the constantly referred-to ‘elites’, I just bought this book to see if there’s any actual meaty substance in your view.
https://www.amazon.com/Giants-Global-Power-Peter-Phillips-ebook/dp/B078ZZ4JW8/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=giants%3A+the+global+elite&qid=1564714150&s=digital-text&sr=1-1
Turns out you’re right – possibly more right than you ever imagined.
“Leftists will come faster and in greater numbers than Fan Boys of Israel.” –Janos
Janos, your anti-semitism is disgusting. Whites need to respect other whites. Whites are killing each other, Janos. The rate of white-on-white violent crime is about four times the rate of black-on-white crime.
In the report, Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-2015, the DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics found that a majority of most violent crimes are committed by people who are the same race as their victims. Indeed, the rate of white-on-white violent crime, it found, is about four times the rate of black-on-white crime.
White supremacists frequently like to manipulate crime statistics in order to claim that nonwhite minorities, particularly African-Americans, are far more crime-prone and the source of most violent crime against whites. Indeed, it is a core belief that this is the case, and many white nationalist ideologues — including politician and pundit Patrick Buchanan, Jared Taylor of American Renaissance, and the Council of Conservative Citizens — all have made considerable hay out of proffering “studies” laden with risibly bad statistics and other evidence to make their case.
The BJS study demonstrates plainly that this is simply not the case. Some 57 percent of crimes involving white victims were committed by white perpetrators, while only 15 percent were committed by blacks, and 11 percent by Hispanics. Black crime victims fell along similar racial lines, with 63 percent of the crimes committed by black perpetrators, while 11 percent were committed by whites, and 6.6 percent by Hispanics.
Overall, the BJS reported, “the percentage of intraracial [that is, same-race] victimization was higher than the percentage of interracial victimization for all types of violent crime except robbery.”
Moreover, it explained, “the rate of white-on-white violent crime (12.0 per 1,000) was about four times higher than black-on-white violent crime (3.1 per 1,000).
If only whites were not so prone to violence against whites. Being violence-prone, combined with technological advances by whites, led to millions of murders of whites committed by whites in the 20th century. If you see a white person, best to cross to the other side of the street. Never walk alone in white neighborhoods at night. Be careful of white biker gangs. Always be armed and ready to defend yourself from white on white violence.
deetrump
Nice bit of research. I especially liked the editorial comment at the end.
Then again, ‘BJS’ could stand for Bullshit Jazz Statistics…!
In the report, Race and Hispanic Origin of Victims and Offenders, 2012-2015, the DOJ’s Bureau of Justice Statistics found that a majority of most violent crimes are committed by people who are the same race as their victims. Indeed, the rate of white-on-white violent crime, it found, is about four times the rate of black-on-white crime.
–Really? many black crimes go 100% un reported AND
most killers in USA are drawn from 4%? of population > YBMs.
The names change but the janet remains the same!
>>> Whites need to respect other whites.
Not if those other whites are promoting self-genocide.
>>> If only whites were not so prone to violence against whites/
If only blacks were not so prone to violence against blacks AND whites. A mere 13 percent of Americans are black, yet account for 52 percent of all homicides in the USA.
“Contrary to the Black Lives Matter narrative, the police have much more to fear from black males than black males have to fear from the police. In 2015, a police officer was 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male was to be killed by a police officer.”
“Black males have made up 42 percent of all cop-killers over the last decade, though they are only 6 percent of the population. That 18.5 ratio undoubtedly worsened in 2016, in light of the 53 percent increase in gun murders of officers — committed vastly and disproportionately by black males.”
No warnings required. Even liberals are not dumb enough to walk through the ever-increasing no-go zones that are our black communities.
Who would win an Alzheimer’s debate between Robert Mueller and Joe Biden?
The rats are fleeing from Criminal Trump’s sinking ship. Another Republican has announced he will not seek re-election. Will Hurd’s departure leaves the House without a single Black Republican. Republicans do not represent America. Democrats do.
The Democrats will win 279 electoral votes (or more) in 2020. That prediction is not based on polls. That prediction is not based on who the Democratic candidate is. It is based on the Negative Partisanship Model which successfully predicted the outcome of the 2018 elections four months before election day.
“The post-election diagnostics of my forecasting model, which departs significantly from the approaches used in conventional election forecasting models, such as those used by FiveThirtyEight, reveal just how powerful my model was at identifying the House districts and Senate races capable of producing Blue Wave effects powered by Trump backlash in the electorate.” –Rachel Bitecofer
With 16 Months to go, Negative Partisanship Predicts the 2020 Presidential Election
http://cnu.edu/wasoncenter/2019/07/01-2020-election-forecast/
Good stuff, deetrump.
I particularly liked this:
“Trump’s 2016 path to the White House, which was the political equivalent of getting dealt a Royal Flush in poker, is probably not replicable in 2020 with an agitated Democratic electorate. And that is really bad news for Donald Trump because the Blue Wall of the Midwest was then, and is now, the ONLY viable path for Trump to win the White House.”
…and this, especially for those foolhardy enough to literally SHOUT that Trump is a shoo-in for 2020:
“…the media (and the voting public) has turned Trump’s 2016 win into a mythic legend of invincibility. The complacent electorate of 2016, who were convinced Trump would never be president, has been replaced with the terrified electorate of 2020, who are convinced he’s the Terminator and can’t be stopped. Under my model, that distinction is not only important, it is everything.”
LOL. Keep trying to convince yourself that Trump’s victory was a fluke. Just like you convinced yourself that Trump’s impeachment was imminent after the midterms. LOL. Where’s the impeachment, janet? Hmmm?
The difference between 2016 and 2020 will be that the moderates who weren’t quite sure about Trump given the constant never-ending bashing by the MSM will have experienced nearly four years under Trump’s leadership. They’ve witnessed the failed soft coup. They saw every Dem candidate raise their hand for illegal immigrant healthcare at taxpayer expense. And they known that Dems are for open borders and arbitrary rule of law. Economically, their investments are so phenomenal that early retirement is an option. And Dems are promising tax-and-spend across the board. The choice couldn’t be more obvious.
Yes, the rats are fleeing, and this is a gift from DT which keeps on giving month after month.
You keep using the word ‘criminal’, but clearly don’t understand the concept.
The people leaving are the criminals. And, this is something that Adults WANT to happen.
No matter your age, please think about something that has been done by the u.s. gov which actually was a benefit to you.
You will not be able to come up with one thing which is based in reality.
All that time you and I were aging, a cadre of those people was undermining the function of our nation hour after hour and getting well-paid for the effort.
The best thing anyone in the u.s. gov can do is to leave or be fired.
Better if they go home and self-retire after eating the end of a firearm.
So if DT causes, in any way, an exodus of all those seditious and useless people from our oligarghy then it is a Huge benefit to We The People.
Should Trump impose harsh, punitive tariffs on Chinese Sexbots imported into the US?
Surely the US market can make its OWN sexbots?
martenson,
For instance, there are countries (Pakistan, 35 others) and massive cities (Chennai India, and 19 others) that are close to or have already run out of water. That predicament was in plain view several decades ago. Yet the societal response in every single instance was to continue population growth and hope for the best.
…so how, indeed, have they survived, while their populations virtually doubled in the last 30 years?
I mean, statistically, Australia’s water resources etc should only be able to sustain a population of 16 million, but it’s already 24.6 million and projected to hit 35 million by 2050.
So, something’s wrong in the maths.
yesterdays situation is no guarantee of future results.
So Majella. you have studiously avoided responding to my post above about the study you linked to in which you called a false “bullshit” on Janos for claiming that most mass shooters are Black. The study you cited directly contradicts your assertions.
In point of fact, just as we would expect, most mass shooters in proportion of their population size in relation to the total population are overwhelmingly Black. By a margin of over two to one. Any other lies to retail?
Yesterday NPR devoted an entire program to water shortages in Chennai, India (10 miilion pop., and growing) If you listened carefully, it was really quite humorous. The NPR interviewer in NY kept trying to bring the conversation around to ‘climate change’, ‘economic inequality’, and ‘environmental justice’; one of the experts being interviewed was a professor at a university in Chennai, a woman, who insisted, no, the lack of potable water in Chennai was due to local corruption, mismanagement, and the fact it was the center of India’s heavy industry, including auto mfg, which uses up a tremendous amount of water, and pollutes a lot of water too.
Capetown, SA came up too, it was pointed out it isn’t just the water supply system that has collapsed in South Africa but the entire infrastructure has crumbled, including electicity supply, bridges and roads, including the national RR. Its all turning to dust. The world is grinding down.
It made for an interesting radio listening experience.
My own observation:
A resourceful and intelligent people — Jews in Israel, Mormons in Utah, will find water and keep the taps flowing no matter what.
Brh
even if they have to steal the water?
Occidental Observer has or had a great article, titled,
NEED A JOB ON PUBLIC RADIO [OR NPR]
IT HELPS TO BE NAMED ARI SHAPIRO
martensen comment
Higher Goals in an Ebbing Empire
The Financial Crisis of 2008 sparked a number of reflections about the future that I mused about in an iWeb blog and re-posted somewhat later to my blog alabikedr@blogspot.com (The Thunder said…).
Having caught the Archdruid, Orlov, and Kunstler bug,
I wondered about Improving the Future while it was slated for decline. So is a grand civilization even possible at this point given our environmental limitations? I wondered if the image of a return to the Garden of Eden (activating mankind’s potential so to speak) or cobbling together some new idea of what a grand civilization would be, could guide, whoever we consider “us”, going forward?
“Our” civilization seems Christian based to me. Darwin and Nietzsche undermined that self conception. Modernism, post-modernism, post-post modernism, are struggles to re-center the human project.
I appreciate your reflections, Chris and Adam, on these struggles in post-truth times….
Green Alba’s cousin?
https://youtu.be/TRbMQ4t2Nfo
George Galloway v. US Senate (2005)