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In early 2018, Mr. Mueller sold a DC grand jury on producing indictments against a Russian outfit called the Internet Research Agency and its parent company Concord Management, owned by Russian oligarch Yevgeny Prigozhin for the so-called election meddling. The indictment was celebrated as a huge coup at the time by the likes of CNN and The New York Times, styled as a silver bullet in the heart of the Trump presidency. But the indicted parties were all in Russia, and could not be extradited, and there was zero expectation that any actual trial would ever take place — leaving Mueller & Co. off-the-hook for proving their allegations.

To the great surprise of Mr. Mueller and his “team,” Mr. Prigozhin hired some American lawyers to defend his company in court. Smooth move. It automatically triggered the discovery process, by which the accused is entitled to see the evidence that prosecutors hold. It turned out that Mr. Mueller’s team had no evidence that the Russian government was involved with the Facebook pranks. This annoyed Judge Friedrich, who ordered Mr. Mueller and his lawyers to desist making public statements about Concord and IRA’s alleged “sweeping and systemic” collusion with Russia, and threatened legal sanctions if they did.

Judge Friedrich’s rulings were unsealed in early July, after Messers Nadler and Schiff had already scheduled Mr. Mueller’s testimony before their committees. And now they’re stuck with him. The only purpose of his appearance was to repeat and reinforce the narrative that the Russian government interfered in the election, which he is now forbidden to do, at least in connection to the Concord and IRA’s activities. But the other tentpole of the two-year-plus inquisition has also collapsed: the allegation that Russian intel hacked the DNC servers. It’s now a matter of public record that the DNC servers were never examined by federal officials. They were purportedly scrutinized by a DNC contractor called CrowdStrike, co-founded by Russian Dimitri Alperovitch, an adversary of Vladimir Putin, active in US-based anti-Putin lobbying and PR. CrowdStrike’s “draft” report on their review of the server was laughably incomplete, and the Mueller team’s lawyers took no steps to validate it.

It would be interesting to hear Robert Mueller’s explanation for how come US computer forensic experts were never dispatched to take possession of the DNC servers. Surely a ranking member on either House committee would have to ask him that, along with many other embarrassing questions about the stupendously sloppy and disingenuous work of the Special Counsel’s team. It was only one glaring omission among many.

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920 Responses to “What Goes Around”

  1. Nik Charles July 22, 2019 at 10:02 am #

    Finally! What kept ya?

    • Neon Vincent July 22, 2019 at 10:27 am #

      Our host normally posts between 9:30 and 10:30 A.M. Eastern Time, so he wasn’t late today. Besides, patience is a virtue.

      I read a comment last Friday from a reader who was hoping for a comment about the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11 landing on the Moon but was disappointed. Whoever it was is probably disappointed again, as our host has his own agenda independent of his readers’ wishes. Of course, that’s why lots of us read him. Just the same, I wrote about the historic event for National Moon Day. Yes, that’s an actual holiday of sorts.

      Looking forward, the Democratic candidates are holding another pair of debates in Detroit this week. Montana Governor Steve Bullock made the second Democratic debate, so I found some drinks to imbibe while watching.

      • jeff2002 July 22, 2019 at 10:37 am #

        To be clear, I made that comment thinking JHK might reflect back on the landing in the context of the state of the country today–“remember when this nation actually could accomplish big things” etc.–not simply to celebrate space exploration. But I agree, many other things to write about.

        • SoftStarLight July 22, 2019 at 11:02 am #

          The nation that achieved the moon landing, or at least appeared to, does not exist any more and unfortunately never will again.

          • Nightowl July 22, 2019 at 11:13 am #

            According to NASA, we lost the technology. Along with the telemetry data. And the original tapes of the moonwalk were sold in a yard sale.

            I kid you not.

          • SoftStarLight July 22, 2019 at 11:35 am #

            Wow that is insane!!! You don’t have a link on that you could share?

          • abbybwood July 22, 2019 at 1:27 pm #

            I have read Dave McGowen’s “Wagging the Moondoggie” (online in PDF) five or six times just for a laugh.

            According to Dave’s research, NASA claims to have “lost” ALL the data from the various moon expeditions that were in boxes and filled a room about the size of a quarter football field! Likely some super fastidious janitor decided a MAJOR Feng Shui clean-up was over-due!

            They keep saying, “We haven’t gone back to the moon in five decades because the technology just isn’t there.”

            Which really begs the question: Well, why not just sweep off the old plans and replicate exactly what they did then, including the Playtex suits, aluminum foil bottomed capsules, duct tape and ink pens?

            When I finish reading all the comments here I will read “Wagging the Moondoggie” again, to properly commemorate that crowning achievement of the U.S. (Cough)

          • Nightowl July 22, 2019 at 2:36 pm #


            Don’t have the tech (1969 technology, mind you):


            Here is a NASA engineer discussing how they can’t pass the Van Allen Belts:

            Moon landing tapes “got erased” NASA says:


            Original moonwalk tapes sold off for cheap:


            I have no opinion on the moon landing; but there are many interesting things surrounding it that are worth reading about.

          • toktomi July 22, 2019 at 8:53 pm #


            “The nation that achieved the moon landing, or at least appeared to, does not exist any more and [fortunately] never will again, a condition that anyone with a conscience and a soul would surely be relieved and forever grateful.


          • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 12:33 am #

            Very interesting Nightowl and thanks for sharing. I’m not sure exactly what to believe about it either though I have heard somewhere before that there isn’t any technology we have that can protect against the intense radiation of the Van Allen Belts. Another theory I’ve heard of is that the moon is riddled with alien colonies and after being told to leave we decided never to go back and we conveniently lost the technology it took to get there in the first place. With as much misinformation and disinformation that there is out there either theory could be plausible. I guess this could be one of life’s enduring mysteries.

          • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 12:44 am #

            Why do you feel that way toktomi? Is it because of the massive growth and sprawl that arose from the 1960’s era or does it have something to do with the “character” of the country as it was perceived at that time? I feel like today we are at the edge of the precipice. Film and TV shows from that time have what seems like a kind of innocence compared to what’s on today. But it could just be a niave assumption on my part since I wasn’t even a thought at the time lol.

          • neon sky July 23, 2019 at 9:11 am #

            Just read the first two chapters of “Wagging the Moondoggie” and the sarcasm, liberal use of the f-bomb and negative tone is a turn off.

            As for all the missing moonwalking tapes, I stopped at the yard sale where they were sold, but they were already gone.

          • toktomi July 24, 2019 at 2:37 am #


            #Why do you feel that way toktomi?

            It strikes me that it would be totally illogical to feel any other way, but I’m just being prickish.

            So, let’s begin with this.

          • SoftStarLight July 24, 2019 at 4:15 pm #

            You’re not being prickish at all IMO. This is your opinion and how you feel and you have a right to that. That is a lot of wars! And of course we were not always on the “right” side. My only thought at the moment though is that human societies are usually in a constant state of warfare in one form or another. Perhaps this is something that is deeper than nation or race? Perhaps this is something imbedded in human nature? Just a thought. Ideally, peace is most people’s preference. And I use most carefully because we do have many warmongers among us and around the world.

          • Majella July 24, 2019 at 8:18 pm #

            Neon – agreed. ‘Sneering’ in an ‘intellectual’ way is not argument by any measure. ‘Skepticism’ out of ignorance is also not a firm foundation for a position either.

      • Exscotticus July 22, 2019 at 11:26 am #

        Naturally, the Left used the anniversary to trash Apollo as racist, sexist, etc. What’s that term the Left likes to use on conservatives? Oh, right, hostile. Well right back at ya. How else to describe trashing what is inarguably humankind’s greatest achievement? The Left drips with hostility, not because their favored groups are marginalized, but because their favored groups are inherently marginal. You can’t accomplish great things when you’re utterly obsessed with your skin color and genitalia. The Left’s idea of a “moon landing” is when they decided that men can also allegedly give birth.

      • K-Dog July 22, 2019 at 11:56 am #

        Stephen Bullock – A wealthy landowner from the ‘World Made By Hand’ prophecies. You would not want to be a picker passing through Mr. Bullocks private property after the fall. War with Iran and Venezuela brings an end to America by way of unintended consequences and a long clusterfuck without end results.

        In the WMBH members of Bullock’s transition tribe would take you his manor where you would enjoy a last meal with Stephen before you became Bullock’s amusement for the day.

        And he will cook a good burger. The best in America.

        • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2019 at 2:05 pm #

          War with Iran, likely be like the Falklands War, a few ships sunk, a few jets shot down, then everybody goes home.

          So far, in these ‘endless wars’ with Iran and Venezuela, no casualties, no ships sunk, no lost aircraft, 1 drone destroyed.

          Some war.

          1st day at the Battle of the Somme, July 1918, 20,000 British dead, 60,000 total casualties. That’s one day in a battle that lasted 6 months.


          • jmar98 July 22, 2019 at 2:23 pm #

            July, 1916

          • K-Dog July 22, 2019 at 2:44 pm #

            If I were a golden retriever I’d retrieve myself a BLACK SWAN and drop its bloody ass at your feet. One American city and it is all over.

          • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2019 at 2:46 pm #

            My mistake, sir.

          • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2019 at 2:49 pm #

            “One American city and its over” — Kdog

            KDog, that’s been the case since 1949.

            What’s different now?


      • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2019 at 12:16 pm #


        In the upcoming Dem debate in Detroit

        Do you think its possible one of the moderators could get these candidates to state their true positions on the border question, more specifically, are they serious when they say they will eliminate ICE, and open up the borders to anyone in the world who wants to come in?

        Also, how can we afford medicare for illegals, who have never paid into the system? They need to be asked if our resources are infinite.

        There needs to be more to these so called debates than who is or isn’t a racist, and whos down with Drag Queen Story hour IMHO.



        • abbybwood July 22, 2019 at 11:55 pm #

          Speaking of the “debates”, my understanding is that they have ixnayed all the “raise your hand” questions.

          Good stuff…

    • fineline July 22, 2019 at 3:26 pm #

      so with all due respect, Jim, with that kind of logic, most of us can get away with anything, and most of us do.

      How can we draw any conclusions until we have seen the tax returns, not to mention the bone spur xray and the IQ test.

      We just dont have all of the facts and any attempt to get them is short circuited

      We have had a parade of administration friendly folks snub their nose at Congress, deny subpoenas and claim executive immunity..

      Trump talks about all of the hours his friendlies have spent testifying under oath on capital hill, “cooperating”, but mostly they are avoiding and evading and declaring presidential immunity. There are more hour spent equivocating than actually being cooperative

      Any third world idiot, like many in the USA,
      would know they are hiding something.
      Everybody knows and reads and quotes the Mueller report, but has any of these Monday morning lawyers read the Panama papers.?

      Suppose there is a cookie jar in a room with one cookie in it; and a boy goes in and when he comes out, the cookie jar is empty.

      the boy is questioned and he is in full denial. He is even brazen enough to say that nobody can even prove he touched the cookie jar, that everybody s out to get him and there must be an explanation, so it is up to you to figure out what happened to that cookie and in the meantime you owe him an apology for even thinking he ate the cookie.
      Thats an analogy of what we have going on here in DC.

      If you dont get it by now, then you never will and your thinking is now complicit in the further undermining of the search and acceptance of the simple truth.

      • Uncle Bob July 22, 2019 at 6:18 pm #

        Are you discussing Trump with your commentary, or his predecessors Bubba “What hammer-and-sickle tattoo on my knob?” Clinton and Barack the Magnificent? Particularly with The One, there was little effective oversight because the mainstream media covered for him and because any questions about what he did were met with thunderous “YOU’RE NOTHING BUT A GODDAMN BIGOT,” stories on tv and online, even though his stunts (Benghazi, Fast And Furious, the Russian Reset, uranium to Russia (as an aside, how can anyone take Democrat bellyaching about Russia seriously when they gave us the uranium sale AND the Russian reset, both of which escapades featured the “wronged” harridan, Hillary?) the IRS fiasco, saying Mexican children as an expedient for the border.crisis, killing Americans without due process via drone strikes) demanded vigorous oversight. Trump, despite his many flaws, hasn’t okayed the immolation of Americans without a trial, or sold uranium to Russia, or violated his path of office by tacitly approving an invasion of the U.S. by anyone and everyone who can walk across the border, or used the Justice Department as a way to abrogate the Second Amendment via illegal arms deals with Mexican drug cartels. Where’s your interest in those things? If you don’t care about holding everyone accountable, not just Trump, then why should a Trumpist care about your endless screeds?

        (For the record, I couldn’t support either major party candidate in 2016. However, the insanity of the lunatic fringe Left, combined with Trump’s largely JFK-esque financial programs, have got me pretty well set to vote for him next year. Not that it matters, though, as New York would cast its electoral votes for Satan if he had (D) after his name.)

        • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 6:30 pm #

          I would have Bush and Obama in cells right next to each other if I could. They both harmed the country and that is why the future looks bleak.

          • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 12:46 am #

            That sounds good to me.

          • benr July 23, 2019 at 10:32 am #

            While it sounds good and all that don’t forget that Congress and the Senate also plays a huge role in how the shape of state runs and when it runs aground.
            Yes the President is the figurehead at the tiller directing course but the true turns of state belong to both houses and a lessor degree the Supremes,

        • fineline July 23, 2019 at 10:59 am #

          You make a lot of assumptions to create a narrative that we cant demand the truth about Trump because somebody gave Clinton a pass twenty years ago and then you claim that somebody was me.

          You like to entertain your biased brain by characterizing my contemporary comment as democratic bellyaching, but you really dont know what I said or what I did back in those days.
          You dont even know if I am a democrat I offer no defense of Clinton or the Clintons, but you somehow confuse me as their advocate. Im not sure what you know other than what you have programmed yourself to believe

          You are very typical of narrow minded thinking that demands we turn this into a two party game of political brinksmanship and the truth really doesnt matter in that game

          You seem to endorse the malfeasance of Trump with every democrat that proceeded him.

          I do know the GOP leapfrogged past Bush to attack Hilary during the eight years of the Obama administration, not because of any search for truth or justice. There purpose was to villianize and demonize her because they saw her as a political threat.

          And suckers like you just dont know he difference


      • abbybwood July 22, 2019 at 11:58 pm #

        Speaking of “tax returns”, can’t wait to see those of Jeffrey Epstein!

    • abbybwood July 22, 2019 at 11:47 pm #

      Anybody wanna bet that on Friday not ONE Republican member of either of the committees where Mr. Mueller will be testifying will have the courage! to ask him ANYTHING regarding the ruling by Judge Dabney Friedrich???

      Obviously no Democrat will go there.

      And I will be shocked!, shocked!! if any Republican does.

      If I had a question, that would be mine.

      • abbybwood July 22, 2019 at 11:59 pm #

        I meant to say Wednesday! Not Friday!

  2. Nightowl July 22, 2019 at 10:03 am #

    Now that the news has come out that Weissman was running the corrupt Mueller investigation, I thought some might be amused by this amazing display of incompetence. I present you the real Robert Mueller:


    • xhidarta July 22, 2019 at 10:43 am #

      Excellent exhibit of the sheer incompetence and corruption corroding the pillars of this decadent empire.

      In the same vein, here’s another https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJqM2tFOxLQ

    • benr July 22, 2019 at 11:41 am #

      Man Jim Jordan stepped on Mueller and punted him around the court.
      Mueller must have been sweating bullets that entire time.

      • Nightowl July 22, 2019 at 2:39 pm #

        It is also fascinating to watch that exchange to see how spineless and shifty Mueller comes off. Particularly after the way the media has portrayed him for the past two years.

        He oozes weakness.

        • MontanaMan July 23, 2019 at 7:18 am #

          Bingo!!!! The media that I call the NNC=NEWS NETWORK CABAL, Made up of ABC CBS NBC CNN MSNBC, Made this buffoon Mueller out to be some stalwart renowned legal beagle lawyer that is beyond reproach. And he’s not. Not a bit.

          I find him to be a walking talking=sputtering forgetful Alzheimer patient! To me he comes off as physically frail and mentally fragile. President Trump is the man that definitely admire her strength and you just know he looks down on Mueller.

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        • neon sky July 23, 2019 at 9:16 am #

          Mueller, again? Where’s my spittoon?

          • abbybwood July 23, 2019 at 10:46 pm #

            I noticed how today, at the last minute, Mueller got his underling to be sworn in tomorrow to answer questions he can’t answer.

            What a CROCK.

          • Nightowl July 24, 2019 at 3:09 pm #

            So Mueller took the stand today and turned in a performance that may be even more embarassing than that found in my earlier link.

            It was the Weissman investigation. And it has now officially been torpedoed.

    • MontanaMan July 23, 2019 at 7:11 am #

      JESUS! H!! CHRIST!!! Mueller does not know 1 god damn thing!! The guy is a walking TALKING=SPUTTERING “ALZHEIMER’S
      PATIENT!!” I mean this with all my heart!! I not only don’t find him well read he truly is, a “legal beagle buffoon”!!

  3. Ol' Scratch July 22, 2019 at 10:05 am #

    It’s late summer so the Dems have evidently officially entered the rerun portion of their scheduling. Someone please wake me up just before the leaves turn.

    • SoftStarLight July 22, 2019 at 11:06 am #

      Both Republicans and Democrats are operating on autopilot it seems. Thus no substantive achievements or real agendas for the country going forward. Just more status quo and governmental gridlock.

      • abbybwood July 23, 2019 at 12:17 am #


        The autopilot of lying and corruption.

        Apparently they all think the American people are blind and stupid.

        • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 12:54 am #

          Yes, and in many ways I think they count on most of us remaining confused and ignorant. That’s why they are in full meltdown mode now with the online censorship and deplatforming campaign against dissent. And so far I am pretty sure Google, Facebook, et al are continuing said campaign all the while helping China to build their social credit database which will be used to completely control people from cradle to grave.

        • EvelynV July 24, 2019 at 2:38 am #

          They know that the slightly less than half that voted for Trump fit that description, a safe bet many who voted for Hillary fit it too.

    • abbybwood July 24, 2019 at 12:42 am #

      Leaves turning??

      It is but the end of July Scratch!

      Will be another three months before the leaves start turning!

      Plenty of time to make the Dems SQUIRM by Attorney General Barr and Mr. Durham by then! 🙂

  4. CancelMyCard July 22, 2019 at 10:14 am #

    “how brain-dead are the House Democratic Committee chairmen, Nadler (Judiciary Committee) and Schiff (Intelligence Committee)”

    About as brain-dead as most of the rest of the country.

    Unfortunately, the level of ignorance in this country has jumped the shark.

    The stupidity is rampant,
    the nastiness is pervasive,
    the incivility is epidemic,

    the narcissism permeates the populaces by osmosis . . .

    And the “it’s all about ME” meme has enveloped this society from its sham outer wrapper to its fetid inner core.

    May the devil take the hindmost.

    Over to you, OS.

    • Ol' Scratch July 22, 2019 at 10:20 am #

      The devil chuckles knowingly… “Invisible hand” indeed!

      • abbybwood July 23, 2019 at 10:59 pm #

        The Devil…Jeffrey Epstein who has just appealed for a NEW bail hearing!

        I wonder if the “higher” judge will be more “CIAdish” to Mr. Epstein’s request that he be allowed to wait out his “trial” (cough!) while in the luxuriously of his opulent massage parlour townhouse in Manhattan?

        Can’t wait to see THIS decision!

        Ahhhh, to be a fly on the wall listening to all the approaching phone calls and personal conversations between his lawyers and ???.

        Epstein: “It was like I took some bagels! Whatevah!”

    • SoftStarLight July 22, 2019 at 11:07 am #

      Human nature has always been the same. Today in many ways is no different than any other.

      • Epicur July 22, 2019 at 11:33 am #

        “Human nature has always been the same. Today in many ways is no different than any other.”

        True dat. But what is different is the pressure on the system from the high population level.

        Since the waning of the Pleistocene, aggressive disease resistant humans have been expanding into every niche occupied by other humans, aided by disease in the process of overrunning them. That game has reached its logical conclusion, ironically helped by the antibiotic “revolution” that lowered the impact of disease.

        We are so inured to the cultural attitudes that evolved during that expansionary phase that we cannot, or will not, see the cliff ahead.

        We live in interesting times.

        • SoftStarLight July 22, 2019 at 11:44 am #

          So what would be an appropriate and humane response? A more stringent regulation of reproduction?

          • Epicur July 22, 2019 at 12:05 pm #

            “So what would be an appropriate and humane response? ”

            I advise efforts at self-preservation. Any efforts to “save the world” are wasted energy.

          • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 12:09 pm #

            Maybe that is what 5G is for.

          • SoftStarLight July 22, 2019 at 12:21 pm #

            Self preservation absolutely. But why not try to “save the world”? I doubt it is always a wasted effort though maybe most often it is. I think one major problem of our time is the meaninglessness and nihilism that pervades everything. Even a very small society needs to provide or give the sense at least of providing purpose for its members in order to actually flourish and continue for any appreciable time. Perhaps its a mistake not to focus on things outside of simple self preservation?

          • SoftStarLight July 22, 2019 at 12:23 pm #

            That could be James. I would not be surprised at all. The Elite clearly do have plans to attempt to depopulate the planet. They make their intentions known in the open. They don’t necessarily advertise it but they have put the information out there for those who are paying attention.

          • Epicur July 22, 2019 at 12:36 pm #

            “Even a very small society needs to provide or give the sense at least of providing purpose for its members in order to actually flourish and continue for any appreciable time. Perhaps its a mistake not to focus on things outside of simple self preservation?”

            I would include finding a “small society” to live in as part of self-preservation. Society is humanity’s most powerful tool and we are weak without it.

            But the fact that we are social animals does not mean that our social institutions can solve every problem. Like everything else a balance is required.

        • Quick Joey Small July 22, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

          Man, I miss the Pleistocene.

        • toktomi July 22, 2019 at 9:07 pm #


          Indeed, “interesting times”, it seems. These may be the most interesting of all the times of the human species.

          I mean, what could be more interesting than the industrial human revolution, the explosion of industrial human society, and finally the eve of its total destruction?

          And now those inbred arrogant apes that couldn’t figure out how to exploit all of that energy without creating this mess believe that they are going to inherit the remains, a pipe dream that they will be no more successful at than they were with this pile of shit.


        • abbybwood July 23, 2019 at 12:19 am #

          Just wait until the Ebola planes arrive in NYC and Los Angeles.

          Game over??

          • MontanaMan July 23, 2019 at 7:26 am #

            That!! That is what not only me but many many folks have been thinking!! Let that happen, and let it happen in NYC, and! And please dear God let it infect AOC!!

            And another well known nut job or 2 or more in the socialist Democratic Party and you will see them all of a sudden calling for Trump to,


          • Epicur July 23, 2019 at 8:57 am #

            Ebola is too easily contained with sanitation and quarantines, plus there’s a vaccine.

          • Exscotticus July 23, 2019 at 8:57 pm #

            >>> And please dear God let it infect AOC!!

            The parasites she already has would likely overwhelm any new infections.

            After all, she’s visited our “concentration camps”.

      • benr July 22, 2019 at 11:43 am #

        But the level of distraction and apathy is beyond anything ever seen.
        Worse those that show interest and spark are being goaded into supreme ignorant acts based on lies.

        • SoftStarLight July 22, 2019 at 11:53 am #

          I agree with you that distraction, apathy, and ignorance are rampant. And I believe it also seems more extreme because of the 24/7 news cycle and the free and easy flow of information now. But I think these things have always been and have always been problems facing all societies and cultures. And maybe some more than others. Because I don’t think our nature really changes.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2019 at 2:05 pm #

            All are fallen – but some are more fallen than others. Some are born as Wordsworth said, “trailing clouds of glory”. Others are cunning, evil little savages from the get go. Obviously one must protect the former from the latter. But we put them all into “public schools” in order to crush the good. Thank God people are getting over this illusion, even though very late in the day.

            The light begins to fade after early childhood, and such a one needs and will benefit from guidance and good teachers. The little savages will go from bad to worse without a strong hand. They need to be given jobs as soon as possible. No college on the public’s dime in other words.

          • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 1:14 am #

            I agree. College and higher education in general should naturally be limited to those who demonstrate an ability or abilities to go above and beyond . Most everyone else would be better off in vocational training and upon graduation being placed directly into their jobs.

        • toktomi July 22, 2019 at 9:15 pm #


          Do you follow the news of Chelsea Manning?

          Her uncompromised integrity and courage are an intense star of light in a sea of darkness.

          …or so it seems to me.


          • benr July 23, 2019 at 10:37 am #

            I would suggest you are having a go at me but what do I know.
            No I do not follow that person.
            Mentally ill people do weird things for weird reasons and Mr. Manning is mentally ill.

          • toktomi July 24, 2019 at 3:06 am #


            #I would suggest you are having a go at me

            Sincerely, not at all. I was attempting to offer a bright spot where you sounded so defeated by the state of the nation.

            I would suggest to you that Chelsea Manning is anything but mentally ill. You would do well to research her before leaping to such uninformed conclusions.

            Right now, from what I understand, she is incarcerated and being heavily fined daily for refusing as a matter of conscience and principle to give testimony before a grand jury. I did a quick search and here is the latest info that I could find. https://madhousenews.com/2019/07/the-vindictive-campaign-against-chelsea-manning-americas-political-prisoner/

            As a bit of an aside and as a bit of an epilogue, I would suggest that what is truly a greater matter of institutionalized mental illness in the USA is the universal inability of the populace to discern the difference between their “country” and their heinous government. I point to but one small piece of the insanity that goes like this. “Support Our Troops” When a body can’t tell the difference between shit and shinola the smell of them boots will be a true beacon of the derangement of the wearer.



          • GreenAlba July 24, 2019 at 7:08 am #

            Thanks for the article, Toktomi.

            As you write, of course, others on this website are slapping each other’s backs on the…ahem…’election’ of one Boris Johnson as Tory leader and hence de facto PM of the UK, where Mr Assange currently languishes while awaiting extradition proceedings next February.

            Perhaps you are comforted to be aware of the equally backslapping man-crush between Donald Trump and Boris Johnson and to imagine that they will doubtless have a few jovial phone calls about Mr Assange’s destiny once things have settled. But I doubt it.

            There can be a lack of joined-up thinking on this site, I find. And a happy willingness to see principles (and individuals) sacrificed for political ideology and ‘my team’. Although you have my apology for writing the word ‘principles’ only a few lines from the words ‘Boris Johnson’.

            The UK (whatever that means in terms of who actually said it) undertook not to extradite Mr Assange to any country that has the death penalty.

            Watch this space. For principles, man crushes and stuff.

    • fineline July 23, 2019 at 11:01 am #

      I would assume he is more awoke than you

    • abbybwood July 24, 2019 at 1:00 am #

      If NONE of the Republicans have the GUTS (that serves all sexes I HOPE!), to mention Judge Dabney Friedrich’s recent ruling declaring there is NO EVIDENCE of “collusion” with Russia related to the 2016 election, then all hope of justice is lost.

      Stay tuned….

      Our leader, Mr. Kunstler, will let us know on Friday.

  5. izzy July 22, 2019 at 10:22 am #

    Like the blog title says, it’s a Clusterfuck Nation.

    I find myself wondering when the existential pressures of the Long Emergency are going to push all this nonsense into the background, though that will likely not be a good thing overall.

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    • draupnir July 22, 2019 at 11:43 am #

      I read that our military is quietly deploying men to the base in Saudi Arabia used for staging when they are preparing another of their Middle Eastern adventures. Iran this time? What if the Russians say nyet again and the Chinese say mei men er? The Chinese have millions of barrels of Iranian oil recently delivered and sitting on their docks. We apparently no longer have the teeth to enforce our sanctions. This makes us look weak and ridiculous. I tend to suspect there is some truth in that speculation. It is probably only a matter of time before they hand us a humiliation so massive, not even our chattel will be able to ignore it.

      • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

        The sanctions make us weak and ridiculous because they are illegal and exists just to please Israel.

        Turkey has bought Russian S-400 missiles so now we have to kick them out of the F35 program, sanction them and then kick them out of NATO.

        Europe is finally supporting Iran as is Russia and China so we will have to sanction everybody.

        Soon it will be the U.S., Israel and GB against the world, how do you think that will work out?

        • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2019 at 12:19 pm #

          I think we will come out on top, that’s how.


          • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2019 at 2:07 pm #

            This is the mentality that leads to World War. He’s in with the Warbucks, Warmongers, and Warburgs.

          • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 2:15 pm #

            Before or after the nuclear war? I think your answer is ill considered, there is no way we can force so many powerful countries to submit to our demands without fighting back.

            To top it off our demands are idiotic, Iran has to cut their oil sales to zero, for what reason?

          • toktomi July 22, 2019 at 9:28 pm #


            Lucky for us all, the US military knows differently.

            The USA has already had its ass handed to it without a single shot being fired. And if we get REALLY STUPID [which we won’t because there are cooler heads in charge than the pit bulls parading as errand boys and the drama is only theatre for the distraction of the masses] there wouldn’t be hectare of ground left that would be safe enough to grow food for the Rothschilds and friends when they pop back out in few years time.

            Go fund another F-35, the worst multi-player video game on the planet.


        • Majella July 22, 2019 at 10:00 pm #

          Don’t forget your Deputy Sheriff, Australia…

          You’re right, James. By what divine right does the USA think it can just impose sanctions, willy nilly, because it doesn’t ‘like’ another country’s views or positions?

          The first and hardest sufferers under these economic bully tactics are inevitably the poor, the vulnerable, the women & the children.

          So, why should we be surprised that the sanctions are routinely ignored?

          Especially now, when it’s plain for all the world to see that the Prez is a chump – ‘all hat & no cattle’, as a Texan might say, ‘all mouth & trousers’ and GA might say.

          • benr July 23, 2019 at 10:38 am #

            Tell me one that was less so in the last fifty years?

          • Majella July 24, 2019 at 8:30 pm #

            Regardless, benr, even if ALL presidents since Johnson have been useless cut-outs for TPTB, Trump is the most egregiously unqualified and obvious failure on every point on which he was ‘elected’. A ham sandwich could have beaten him, so he got really lucky that Hillary had nothing to offer.

          • benr July 25, 2019 at 10:13 am #


            See now there is where you have input opinion as fact.
            Mr. Trump soundly beat a bus load of better politicians to get the GOP nomination.
            Simply because you hate the man does not mean he is not qualified to hold the position.
            He is infinitely more qualified to hold the position than the last weasel that was in the office.
            You know the empty suit you voted for and still support to this day.
            Hillary was just that corrupt she frothed at the thought of being president and taking us into another war.
            She lost for her arrogance and it just so happened she is even more dislikeable than President Trump.
            Say it out loud President Trump it won’t hurt I promise.
            Brand Democrat is seriously tarnished after this latest Mueller hearing and the facts it brought out.
            Can you say 2020 is in the bag for Trump as no Democrat stands a chance at the moment.

      • Exscotticus July 23, 2019 at 9:25 pm #

        >>> The Chinese have millions of barrels of Iranian oil recently delivered and sitting on their docks. We apparently no longer have the teeth to enforce our sanctions. This makes us look weak and ridiculous.

        Whoa! The Chinese are not abiding by trade agreements and international law? Shocker.

        We can’t even stop China from selling pirated copies of MS Windows, dude. So—no—the Iranian oil doesn’t change a thing.

        Trump’s tariffs, on the other hand, are a game changer. China will stand its ground until November, 2020. They hope time is on their side because of the elections, because Trump can’t afford to upset the economy.

        But if Trump’s re-elected, China will capitulate. Their fragile economy won’t be able to handle four more years of ever-increasing tariffs and the mass exodus of factories for greener pastures.

        For China, everything hinges on the election.

  6. JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 10:24 am #

    The day is coming where the Democrat party is going to be shown for what a corrupt lying group of con artists and shills they are.

    The second best example is the border. They have blocked every effort to finance the border effort to handle the huge growth of people that have mysteriously appeared there. Now they are all visiting an obviously overworked effort to handle the overload and are spending the entire time doing, surprise, attacking Trump. A pundit on Fox attacking Trump because he has not spent the 4.6 billion allocated, remember this, a week or so ago. After the Dems tried to block its passage with the biggest mouth against it being AOC and her gang.

    These folks are disingenuous and downright disgusting.

    Good essay, JHK.

    • jdhines July 22, 2019 at 11:02 am #


      >>> …the huge growth of people that have mysteriously appeared there [at the Southern border].

      What mystery??? It’s clear why those folks are there. They believe the door is going to be slammed shut by GGG. Trump is the best advertisement the world has ever seen for Coyotes selling the American dream to travel minded Central Americans.

      “Quick, get in before the huge new wall (paid for by Mexico) and more troops arrive at the border! Limited time special offer! – The whole family gets in for the price of one! Hurry, don’t be left behind!”

      Fast facts:

      1. Trump is the anti-illegal immigrant president
      2. He is/was going to build a great, beautiful wall
      3. Mexico is/was going to pay for it

      Inconvenient fact:
      A. More illegals are coming to and into the USA now than at any time since the moonwalk, 50 years ago

      Ironic that the guy YOU, the electorate, selected to save you from the brown hordes, is the one responsible for causing them to flock to and into the USA. Poetic justice, if ever there was any.

      My suggestion: Do not put your faith in political parties (D or R), personalities (Trump or Warren/Sanders), ideologies (liberal or conservative) religions/philosophies (Christian or Atheist), theories (conspiracy or scientific), as the whole thing is a hopeless, hot mess and MANY/MOST are trying to screw you!

      Live a comfortable, decent and calm life and leave all the other BS BEHIND, which is not easily done, as you are ON YOUR OWN in this world

      What is it all going to matter in 100 years anyway? You cannot influence the course of events that will unfold. We are twigs riding on a mighty river, we are piloting nothing.

      • Epicur July 22, 2019 at 11:42 am #

        “Ironic that the guy YOU, the electorate, selected to save you from the brown hordes, is the one responsible for causing them to flock to and into the USA. Poetic justice, if ever there was any.”

        Another inconvenient fact is that the process of “growth” that drives the desire for higher population levels was initiated long ago and Trump, although he is leading the parade, has no more control over it than he does over the exponentially expanding debt.

        “Praise be to Nero’s Neptune
        The Titanic sails at dawn
        Everybody’s shouting
        ‘Which side are you on?'”

        • Epicur July 22, 2019 at 11:44 am #

          The word “leading” should have been in mockery quotes.

      • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 11:45 am #

        Simple, you are wrong. Trump is not responsible for the increase in migrant flow to the border. The Neo-Liberal elements of the globalist and domestic forces are responsible.

        The flocking to the border is being promoted from outside sources supplying money and resources to people from all over the world. Domestic groups such as CAIR are doing the same thing. It is nothing new, the western RR were built by Chinese recruited by Chinese folks here in the US. The second item are the asylum laws that were passed prior to Trump. If you feel you are being picked on by your native land, just come to the United States, the land of milk and honey, we will take care of you. How many are at that border with the promises they are hearing from the Dems, free healthcare, welfare, food stamps, jobs etc. The third and most damaging is catch and release. The Law lets these folks cross, turn themselves in, get some paper work and then disappear. Fourth, overstayed Visas, our country does not even defend its own law, immigration wise. All these laws were passed long before Trump. All these laws are impossible to enforce anyway without an effective gated barrier, so what is the point without a wall and legitimate ports of entry.

        Then they get here and reality hits, there is no milk and honey. All those promises are hokum. The coyotes rape them, discard them and use them for human slavery.

        Never once has Trump said he wants to stop immigrant flow, he wants to stop illegal immigrant flow, uncontrolled immigrant flow, drugs and human trafficking. What a horrible concept.

        The real effect right now is the Border Patrol and ICE are trying to enforce the laws that now exist and all they are getting is Leftist BS for their effort.

        Think what would be happening right now if the border was just opened? Do you enjoy the pictures of the West Coast homelessness we see every day? If the inflow is unchecked, you are next.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2019 at 2:13 pm #

          His empty threats have greatly increased the flow. Simple fact. If you brandish a weapon, you have to be ready to use it. His Bluff has been called again and again. No one take him seriously any more except his Cult Followers and the the demented TDS sufferers of the Left.

          Let not your heart be troubled. There was NEVER a chance he was going to do this via the legislative process. America is far too gone for that. The only chance was always Executive Action as Commander and Chief. And any other bullshit laws, protocols, or policies that got in the way had to be declared null and void – with Military Police ready to arrest any judge who said otherwise.

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      • Exscotticus July 22, 2019 at 12:08 pm #

        >>> What mystery??? It’s clear why those folks are there. They believe the door is going to be slammed shut by GGG.

        Wow. Your TDS view of history seems to have started on November 8, 2016.

        Obama also experienced a crisis at the border. Surely you remember? It’s when Obama built those cages you Lefties keep going on about.

        Let’s read it together…

        Meanwhile, the crisis on the Southern border continued. A massive influx of people — largely driven by Central Americans, many of them children — drawn here in the expectation of lax immigration enforcement is overwhelming border officials and facilities.

        Fun fact: you don’t discourage illegals by promising them free food, clothing shelter, education, and healthcare. You don’t discourage them by approving $4.5 billion for their benefit.

        Imagine if France announced that they’re going to subsidize American excursions to the tune of $4.5 billion? Would that possibly motivate more Americans to visit Paris? I think so.

        Conversely, ICE raids and deportations discourage immigrants from coming. Would you visit France if you knew you’d be arrested at the airport and sent right back home at your own expense? Doubtful.

        >>> More illegals are coming to and into the USA now than at any time since the moonwalk, 50 years ago

        Wrong again. The peak was 12.2 million in 2007. The downward trend stopped under Obama, as more Dems demanded open borders and free everything for everyone.

      • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2019 at 4:49 pm #

        I’m trying to find out

        The Dems, when they get in

        Will they eliminate ICE?

        Will they open the borders to the entire 3rd world?

        They have stated yes to both, should we take them at their word, or is it just election year BS?

        People who vote D will expect them to follow thru, no?


        • Exscotticus July 22, 2019 at 10:52 pm #

          There was a two-year period (2009-2010) when Dems controlled Congress and the Executive. This is how they managed to get Obamacare enacted without a single Republican vote. They could have eliminated ICE, opened the borders, etc. But mostly Dems didn’t care what was going on so long as Obama gave pretty speeches and did cool stuff like show up on Late Night to rap.

      • Nightowl July 23, 2019 at 4:26 pm #

        Pro tip = over/unnecessary use of caps = crazy

    • SoftStarLight July 22, 2019 at 11:15 am #

      At least AOC and the squad are honest in that they are clear about their desire to destroy the current system and the White majority country that historical America has been. Mitch McConnell and his Republic squad are doing the same thing via their preferred economic and immigration policies and yet I don’t hear many people calling them out for their disingenuousness and disgusting behavior. In order to understand the attack you have to acknowledge who is actually attacking you and how they are doing so.

      • toktomi July 22, 2019 at 9:34 pm #


        Right on except that AOC et.al. are claiming they have something better, n’est pas?

        Hell ya, tear the goofy thing down but let’s not pretend that there will ever be any salvation.


        • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 1:23 am #

          Well yeah they do claim they have the antidote. But then no one does if what you are saying is true. I don’t want you to be right. That’s my honest bias. But maybe in the end you are correct.

    • Majella July 22, 2019 at 10:05 pm #

      Yeah, that’ll happen – in the future.

      In the meantime, the GOP has already long ago exposed itself as a band of hapless grifters, with no real agenda for the future.

      Aside from making women have babies they don’t want (then abusing them for not being able to care adequately for them in ‘right-to-work’ (splutter!) states) what DO GOP congress & senate people actually STAND for?

  7. Slugoon July 22, 2019 at 10:25 am #

    A great piece of investigative journalism, James. I enjoy the RussiaGate updates.

  8. fugeguy July 22, 2019 at 10:26 am #

    We have reached terminal velocity.

    The only real question is how long until the sudden stop?

    • Epicur July 22, 2019 at 11:45 am #

      Or stall speed.

    • toktomi July 22, 2019 at 9:45 pm #


      Indeed, isn’t that the $64,000 question?

      I have a few more that are just as interesting but not nearly as critical.

      But here’s a thing. How do ya do a global reset that consists of a partial collapse? I don’t believe that it’s possible. Brandon Smith disagrees, and he’s lot more informed and more intelligent about such matters than me. Anyway, I ain’t buying a partial collapse. I’m going with the global reset as grid down. And from all the chatter, the reset is more near than distant.


      • Epicur July 23, 2019 at 12:16 am #

        A global reset that consists of a partial collapse might be the result of a drastic decrease in population resulting from “disease X” if it were lethal enough. A plague would logically strike most heavily at crowded unproductive urban populations who were the first victims and at peasants who could not avail themselves of medical treatment.

        Wars would provide fertile ground for such seeds.

        There was such a reset after the Black Death in 14th century Europe. Some scientists have speculated that someone might try to engineer just such a plague to avoid climate change.

      • fugeguy July 23, 2019 at 10:46 am #

        That’s a tough question.

        My thoughts run along the perspective that given the complexity of our society a partial collapse is not possible. It’s all or nothing. I suspect that is why tptb are going all out to keep things going.

        So when they lose this bet the boom will be huge.

  9. JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 10:36 am #

    Just read a AGW pitch. Number one was attacking Trump, naturally.

    Number two was a declaration that the way things are going with human nature being what it is, there is is no answer. We have to take this on as a international emergency and he pointed out a number of Apollo type projects that need to happen to accomplish the goals.

    The problem? Never once did he mention the number one problem, population growth. Then if you fix the growth problem, you ignite the number two problem, the economic problem of negative growth.

    Simply put, for the Democrats amongst us to understand, how the heck are you going to pull off huge economic projects to correct AGW with collapsing economies caused by trying to fix the number one problem.

    As usual, the Liberals are out spending money they do not have or even have the wherewithal to create. Money is labor, ie human beings doing something. Two, you do not create money with people, you cannot spend it. Two axioms that the Dems have forgotten about.

    • malthuss July 22, 2019 at 11:06 am #

      AGW = Anti trump?????

      • Epicur July 23, 2019 at 12:19 am #

        Anthropogenic Global Warming (perhaps).

    • Exscotticus July 22, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

      Far from discouraging population growth, Dems and RINOs encourage it. “Yes—have ten babies that you can’t afford. American taxpayers are ready and willing to be your economic slaves, and will sacrifice their own children for your benefit!”

      • Epicur July 22, 2019 at 1:52 pm #

        Very few people are capable of a comprehensive picture of the problem. Most arrive at a limited view that seizes on some “solution” without realizing the flaws in the “solution”.

        “For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.” H. L. Mencken

      • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2019 at 2:18 pm #

        Hitler was known as the Father of his Nation because people could afford to marry and have kids once He got the economy booming. Germans epitomized the k genetic strategy of high parental investment – and NOT having them if they couldn’t do it right.

        Consider the people they people they are replacing us with – much the opposite, eh? The r strategy on steroids. Have as many as you can and demand the fools take care of them. And if the fools agree, you’ve already conquered them!

        • Exscotticus July 22, 2019 at 2:55 pm #

          Janos, knowing what Hitler did to all those high-investment K strategy Germans, sending them all off to war to become canon fodder, it would have been better for Nazi Germany to go with r strategy.

          • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2019 at 4:44 pm #

            Set ’em up, my friends.

            Shots of Wild Turkey all around.

            Beer chaser

            Take it like a man.


          • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2019 at 6:31 pm #

            Turkey shoot after the Wild Turkey. Fish in a barrel. The War of All against All. Or as BRH says, Miller Time.

            How is the training coming with the Giant Boars? I’ve contracted with a guy who can make armor for them.

        • toktomi July 22, 2019 at 9:55 pm #


          Are you really buying that children’s story about Hitler, the Rothschild et.al errand boy, acquiring power of his own abilities?

          The Lords gaveth and the Lords did taketh away, or so I say. Economic Stimulation and hello, 1950’s and 1960’s after scooping up virtually the entire world during the 30’s.

          Hitler, schmitler, somebody’s little boy who played his role well – give him that.


  10. JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 10:39 am #

    The Stupidification of America is reaching a peak this week. Listening to Nadler is unbelievable. I wonder what happened in NY in the past that turned him into a raving maniac regarding President Trump.

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    • Exscotticus July 22, 2019 at 12:30 pm #

      I firmly believe TDS is real. It’s as real as antisemitism or racism. For those afflicted, all roads lead to “it’s Trump’s fault.” You point out salient facts, as I did above for jdhines, but there’s no learning—just endless looping. I can admit that Trump has character flaws; they can’t admit that Trump’s policies have been successful. It’s the life of a child, ruled by feelings and emotions. So sad.

      • jdhines July 22, 2019 at 2:13 pm #


        Here’s the problem: Trump’s corrosive agenda to divide America is the policy. Bigotry and otherism are both the ideas and the merits for Trump. The racist rhetoric is the agenda. Pretending they are separate or disconnected was, is and always will be a cop-out and a lie.

        So, Republicans, be advised: No one will look back and think, sure, Trump was a bigot but the party nobly accepted that in order to pass tax legislation. History — very near history — will dissolve the lie and the imaginary compartments and reveal only one thing: Republicans stood for Trump. They stood for all of him.

        • Exscotticus July 22, 2019 at 2:40 pm #

          Another post with no links. Just Trump… bad! hyperbole.

          Bigotry? Otherism? Racism? What do you think the socialist quad is doing every time they say “women of color”? That means “any woman who isn’t white.” It doesn’t get more racist and bigoted than that.

          Rashida Tlaib…

          “Absolutely. Let me tell you – I mean, for me, I think two weeks ago we celebrated – or took a moment I think in our country to remember – the Holocaust. And there’s a kind of a calming feeling, I always tell folks, when I think of the Holocaust and the tragedy of the Holocaust in the fact that it was my ancestors – Palestinians – who lost their land; and some lost their lives, their livelihood, their human dignity. Their existence in many ways had been wiped out, and some people’s passports – I mean, just all of it was in the name of trying to create a safe haven for Jews, post the Holocaust, post the tragedy and the horrific persecution of Jews across the world at that time. And I love the fact that it was my ancestors that provided that – right? – in many ways. But they did it in a way that took their human dignity away – right – and it was forced on them.”

          • jdhines July 23, 2019 at 2:59 pm #

            I must post a link because I think Trump is no earthly good? WTF?

          • Exscotticus July 23, 2019 at 3:07 pm #

            Did I go too fast for you?

            You should explain WHY you think Trump is bad, and maybe back it up with some EXAMPLES.

          • jdhines July 23, 2019 at 4:26 pm #

            Ex, It is abundantly clear why Trump is no earthly good. He’s a racist, he lies incessantly, he is a womanizer, he is a business cheat, etc., but you knew all that. Why do I have to give citations?

            If you love him, despite his moral shortcomings / failings, then own it, but don’t try to convince me he is a “good man” as we both know that he is not even close to a good man.

          • Exscotticus July 23, 2019 at 6:13 pm #

            >>> but you knew all that. Why do I have to give citations?

            Because I don’t think he’s a liar or a racist, so show us the proof.

            Clinton was a womanizer, Hillary enabled this womanizing, and you apparently wanted to make Hillary president. So it’s a little hypocritical to complain about womanizing while electing a womanizer-enabler.

            Also, aren’t Dems always telling conservatives to stay out of their private affairs? How is worrying about Trump’s social engagements not hypocrisy?

            Business cheat? And the Clintons weren’t? It’s relevant because Hillary—a business cheat—was the alternative. So you want to swap one cheat for another?!

        • benr July 23, 2019 at 10:42 am #

          What has President Trump said or done that is actually racists?

          Did he make statements like if I had a son he would look like___________.
          Did he inject himself into a local policing problem then be forced to hold a beer summit?
          The racism and division is clearly ALL on the Democrat side as it he party of obstruction at this moment.

          • jdhines July 23, 2019 at 2:57 pm #

            Oh, I don’t know, general demeanor, along with pandering to racist, bigoted, white supremacists? Does that suffice?

          • Exscotticus July 23, 2019 at 3:13 pm #

            >>> Oh, I don’t know, general demeanor, along with pandering to racist, bigoted, white supremacists?

            I see. You only like politicians that pander to racist, bigoted, antifa terrorists and illegals.

          • jdhines July 23, 2019 at 4:31 pm #

            Ex, You see what you want to see and believe what you want to believe. Trump is your boy no matter what and I get that. Great! Own it. You like Authoritarian, lying, amoral leaders, because they do something you want done, no matter the cost to our institutions, country, woman and children, etc. Let’s just not paint it as something it is not.

            Just own the lout, lock stock and barrel and be done with it. You and your sort love him and deserve him, but don’t ask the rest of us to think he’s great because, for us, he IS NOT.

          • Exscotticus July 23, 2019 at 5:35 pm #

            >>> You like Authoritarian, lying, amoral leaders

            The alternative was Hillary. Are you arguing that she’s not an authoritarian, lying, amoral leader?

            Which Dem leaders are not authoritarian, lying, and amoral? Would that be Pelosi? Biden? Sanders? Harris? Booker?

          • benr July 23, 2019 at 6:28 pm #


            Sorry buddy your view of the world is seriously devoid of reality.
            The vast majority of racists are voting Democrats or are Democrat politicians.

          • Nightowl July 26, 2019 at 4:18 am #

            “Oh I don’t know …” — JD

            A truthful answer, at last!

      • Nightowl July 22, 2019 at 2:46 pm #

        Of course it is real. It is the result of a sustained media-based propaganda campaign. Week after week we see media lies exposed with hard evidence and the sickness only worsens.

        Read up on Edward Bernays and co. This period in time is disturbing, but fascinating.

      • jdhines July 23, 2019 at 2:55 pm #

        TDS may or may not be real, but HATRED for Trump is VERY REAL. I wonder why? Do you think it’s because he is doing such a grand job? I don’t, but I may be wrong.

        • Exscotticus July 23, 2019 at 3:19 pm #

          >>> but HATRED for Trump is VERY REAL. I wonder why?

          Children often have anger management issues.

          Here’s Cory Booker admitting that he fantasizes about physical violence toward Trump. And he’s running for POTUS? With access to nukes?

          • jdhines July 23, 2019 at 4:36 pm #

            Ex, more “whataboutism” and otherism?

            Please, just admit, for all to see, that you admire an authoritarian, lying, racist, womanizing, cheater who destroyed the party (The Republicans) that you used to love. It’s OK, your friends on the right agree with you — he can do NO WRONG — it’s the other 60% of your countryman who have a problem with orange GGG.

          • jdhines July 23, 2019 at 4:40 pm #

            >>> Children often have anger management issues.

            So do folks who have been lied to repeatedly and subjected to unnecessary chaotic events and other frustrating, narcissist, self -centered behavior. Really, the country, save “The Base,” is just plain tired of this no good, prick.

          • Exscotticus July 23, 2019 at 5:38 pm #

            All ad hominems with no examples. All straw men. No one said Trump’s perfect. I said quite the opposite on this very forum. Here it is. Click. Read.

        • Nightowl July 23, 2019 at 3:55 pm #

          The hatred is fomented by a corporate Resist movement.


          You can’t fix low IQs. The progs used to go on about people voting against their own interests.


          • jdhines July 23, 2019 at 4:44 pm #

            The hatred is the result of hateful, cruel and uncalled for behavior by your hero. He’s yours, we get that you’ll accept what every stupid-ass thing he does next. We get that that you think this dunce is playing four dimensional chess. But the rest of us know, he isn’t even playing with a full deck!

            You Trumpers love his “wild antics,” but for the majority of citizens, he makes us want to puke.

          • jdhines July 23, 2019 at 4:46 pm #

            Check the facts – Trump has a lock on the lowest educated, rube voters in this country. I know it hurts, but it happens to be true, even if you give reasons why it doesn’t matter. So who are the low IQ rubes, they are the Trump voters. Sorry.

          • Exscotticus July 23, 2019 at 5:41 pm #

            >>> Check the facts – Trump has a lock on the lowest educated, rube voters in this country.

            And that makes you a hypocrite, as you just accused Trump of being hateful and divisive. Yet here you are doing the same.

          • Nightowl July 24, 2019 at 8:36 am #

            You have nothing but poor attempts at insults.

            Last guy I voted for was R. Nader. Have abstained since.

            Trump has done nothing wrong, and the easiest way to verify this is the fact that you and the corporate McResisters haven’t presented a shred of evidence that he has.

            Now go drink a Pepsi and scarf down some chemical burgers Resist boy.

        • fugeguy July 23, 2019 at 3:57 pm #

          As I always qualify- I am not a T fan.

          But the reason there is such hatred of T might be related to 2 + years of non stop negative coverage in the media. Including many misrepresentations. The clips the news media shows are clearly, often out of context.

          T is a bombastic, arrogant ahole- clearly by his actions. Racist- no.

          The only way you can conclude he is a racist is if you accept the agenda that whites are bad, everything done by a person of color is OK and that only whites engage in self interested bigoted behavior. All part of the current SJW social lexicon but completely wrong and non-objective, irrational, emotional thinking.

          The D’s clearly want open borders (as do most R’s BTW) but want to lie about it.

          It is so bad AOC felt comfortable implying Princess N was a racist merely because Princess N called AOC on some of her BS.

          God help us all.

          • Nightowl July 23, 2019 at 4:35 pm #

            It’s far more simple. It is neo-liberal globalism vs. nationalism.

            The globalists have been successful with color revolutions in other countries in recent years, but so far, the attempt to overthrow the government in the US (the Purple Revolution) has failed almost entirely due to Trumpi and co.

            We will see if he can hold and continue to strengthen the counter-movement.

          • jdhines July 23, 2019 at 4:48 pm #


            The reason people hate Trump, is because he’s a hateful prick. Period. Not because of the media. Just look at how the asshole acts.

          • Exscotticus July 23, 2019 at 5:45 pm #

            >>> Just look at how the asshole acts.

            Acts? You mean like when he passed the tax cut? Or when he negotiated better trade deals? Or was it his calling attention to the border crisis? Which Dems denied for months? Those acts?

          • fugeguy July 23, 2019 at 5:46 pm #

            Conceded on the ahole thing but trumping up racist charges only make you look irrational and borderline crazy.

          • fugeguy July 23, 2019 at 5:46 pm #

            pun intended

          • Exscotticus July 23, 2019 at 5:58 pm #

            >>> but trumping up racist charges only make you look irrational and borderline crazy.

            Dude they’re still calling Trump an antisemite. The guy’s got buildings and whatnot named after him in Israel. He’s the most popular Prez in Israeli history. But apparently Israel is not the authority on antisemitism; Trump-hating Dems are.

        • jdhines July 24, 2019 at 12:20 pm #

          Test One, Test 1, 2, 3

          • jdhines July 25, 2019 at 12:04 pm #

            >>> Conceded on the ahole thing but trumping up racist charges only make you look irrational and borderline crazy.

            Really? You think it’s crazy to think Trump might have racist tendencies given his history with the central park 5 (execute them), when he was found to have tried to keep blacks out of his rental properties, given all the other things he has said? Really, you can even fathom that, a bit? Have you noticed the white supremacist support he has??? Don’t you believe they recognize one of their own when the see one?? David Duke, Steve Bannon, Breitbart, etc., etc. etc.

            Irrational and borderline crazy??? Do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you assert that given the record???

  11. Walter B July 22, 2019 at 10:47 am #

    I find the entire Russia Gate attack to be vile and offensive and seriously wish that somebody somewhere would just round up all of the miscreants that are promoting it and ship them off to South Africa or someplace else where they can have a go at helping humanity rather than hindering it. If you want to mount a campaign against election meddlers it would be a far better use of time and effort to go after the sellout media and the pay for play PAC-men who purchase our for sale elected officials in the first place.

    Donald Trump may have more than a few qualities that the easily offended American public takes offense at, but it certainly appears that the one quality that pisses off the puppet-masters pulling the strings of the DC clowns is that apparently DJT cannot be bought and owned like Nancy and Chuck. Mr. Trump was smart enough to quickly realize that if he continues to go along with the war for profiteers who control our foreign policy he can even live long enough to finish a second term. A shame that Jack Kennedy was not able to come to the same realization.

    • montsegur July 22, 2019 at 11:07 am #

      I find the entire Russia Gate attack to be vile and offensive

      Walter, the depressing conclusion to all this seems to be that this group in DC is so ideologically fixated that they will continue to play political games while the country falls to pieces around them.

      When they did not nail HRC for her egregious violations involving the handling of classified information, it seemed clear to me the rot had consumed the top even if many of the lower level government players were still trying to get business taken care of without their approach being warped by political loyalties.

      Hard to see this situation finding any kind of soft landing.


      • Walter B July 22, 2019 at 12:09 pm #

        Crash and burn to be sure. It amazes me that these scum in elected office are spending all of their time and efforts to get the new boss fired. I cannot imagine that there is a single private sector company anywhere that would tolerate the employees attacking a new boss rather than doing the jobs they are paid handsomely to do. Oh, that’s right, that would be for-profit entities, not parasitic government waste products.

        • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 1:20 pm #

          I would not get too outraged, we all have seen this soap opera before and Ken Starr makes Muller look like a boy scout.

          I do not think JHK was blogging back then but it would of been great to see him dissect the impeachment of Bill Clinton like he has this situation.

        • lbs July 22, 2019 at 2:03 pm #

          I have as much contempt for the Democrats as anyone in this country, but members of Congress aren’t “employees” of the executive branch. Their behavior may be deranged, but it doesn’t violate the organizational hierarchy.

    • SoftStarLight July 22, 2019 at 11:22 am #

      Yes, DJT is a billionaire so he cannot be bought and paid for per se. Instead it looks like members of his family have convinced him to pull away from his original agenda and campaign promises. So in that sense he may as well be bought and paid for because the outcome is about the same. MAGA became MIGA and thus the Wall became a fence became no new barrier being built at all. And thus an immigration moratorium became no moratorium at all became let’s skyrocket the number of legal immigrants.

      • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 11:51 am #


        Do you think that the intransigence of the Democratic Party might have something to do with Trump inability to make progress.

        Same thing happened to Jimmy Carter regarding the startup of the energy crisis.

        • SoftStarLight July 22, 2019 at 11:57 am #

          Well yes I do believe that their constant resistance has been a thorn in his side. They have behaved very badly to say the least. But that didn’t give him a reason to change his mind on so many things and not follow through with his original promises. I voted for him because of those promises. I would likely not have voted for him otherwise.

          • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 12:47 pm #

            And vote for HRC instead, come on SSL.

            Trump is a dealer and a bully. He will pursue a path until he is stopped and then change tack and pursue another path. But he is always aiming at his final goals. Bully does not work in DC, thank goodness, so he has had to learn some new techniques. But I think he is about done, as evidenced by the reaction to the Squad. He is trying to handle a group that even the ol’ Political genius Pelosi has found odious.

          • Majella July 22, 2019 at 11:40 pm #

            Loath as I am to engage in the usual ‘whataboutism”, just look at the last 6 years of Obama’s presidency to witness toxic resistance & obfuscation in Congress.

          • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 1:30 am #

            Well now you know I wouldn’t vote for HRC John! I am just saying that Trump should have taken more decisive action earlier on in his presidency. He ran on ending illegal immigration and the problem is worse now than it has ever been. I realize that much of that is due to agitation from the other side. I just wished he would have done things differently.

          • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 1:31 am #

            And I can’t imagine that anyone thinks that Nancy Pelosi is a political genius. Really?

          • benr July 23, 2019 at 10:48 am #


            Yes perish the thought about whataboutism.
            How ever Obama had an agenda worthy of stopping period end of story. Nothing that fool peddled was worthy of moving one inch.
            I will say even he recognized unfettered immigration was a bad thing and mouthed his attempts to stop it while doing nothing but hamstringing ICE.
            Obama was simply a bad player in an empty suit with a gift for reading soaring rhetoric off a teleprompter and not much else.
            Glad to see we survived his terrible presidency and he is in the rear view mirror hopefully soon he will realize most people see him for the fraud he was and is.

          • Majella July 24, 2019 at 8:46 pm #

            @benr – your opinions on Obama are very well known and almost perfectly reflect the GOP/Fox Talking Points of the era. But as tey say, opinions are like assholes – everyone’s got one. Ours seem to rarely agree, but that’s a function of the perspective from which one views events. Yours is simply poisoned by hate, rage & fear.

          • benr July 25, 2019 at 10:17 am #


            Oddly enough I could fling your trip right back at you.
            What is to fear in Obama a feckless empty suit.
            Your accusation perfectly mirrors my thought on you and President Trump.
            President Trump is virtually a shoe in for another 6 years!
            You can thank the Democrat party for scheming their own demise.

          • Majella July 26, 2019 at 6:42 am #

            @benr – your math is Trumpian…’a shoe (sic) in for another six years’. Weird, as the term is generally, four years.

            I’m betting you couldn’t be more wrong. He’s never going to get back in on an honest ballot.

            You, and your ilk who actually WANT him back, are the true America-Haters round here. The place would be a smoking pile of dumpster fires and rubble if you get what you wish for. Bigly.

    • So many liars July 22, 2019 at 1:19 pm #

      “I find the entire Russia Gate attack to be vile and offensive and seriously wish that somebody somewhere would just round up all of the miscreants that are promoting it and ship them off to South Africa or someplace else where they can have a go at helping humanity rather than hindering it.”

      What? You think that miscreants should be shipped off to another country where they can maybe make things better? That’s oddly similar to President Trump’s invitation to The Squad to go elsewhere and make those places better. And yet, there wasn’t a whiff of racism in your statement.

      Nor in his.

      • fugeguy July 23, 2019 at 4:01 pm #

        Is not OK to be at least annoyed by people who flee one country only to arrive in a new country and begin to try to make the new country more like the one they left?

        Plenty of socialist utopias to go live in. Go there and enjoy them- just bring your own body bag.

        • Majella July 25, 2019 at 6:31 pm #

          What a total canard. The ‘Squad’ (to which I assume you’re referring) comprises three US born citizens and 1 immigrant who arrived as a child aged 3.

          None of them can in any way possibly be accused of “try(ing) to make the new country more like the one they left…”.

          Can no-one criticize any aspect of the US governance system without being accused of ‘hating America’?

          If I recall correctly, one GOP candidate in 2016 was most vociferous in his criticism about what a hell-hole America had become. he wasn’t accused of ‘hating America’.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2019 at 2:36 pm #

      Your second thesis contradicts your first. But I assume you know that and are just writing in a conversational style. In other words, he can’t be bought because he was bought a long time ago and is already owned.

      But I do appreciate any spark of independence he shows. If he continues to refuse to attack Iran, he will go down as a decent President compared to many.

      Not great of course. That would have meant building that Wall….

      • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2019 at 2:53 pm #

        This was in response to Walter far above.

      • benr July 23, 2019 at 10:50 am #

        How do you build something when Congress refuses to fund it?
        You do understand building stuff requires money right?

        The other side is screaming racism and doing everything they can to block anything he proposes even stuff the supported under the previous waste of air that occupied the WHITE house.

        • Majella July 26, 2019 at 10:04 pm #

          Come on! The GOPCONGRESS & Senate had two full years to get his promises enacted. Total failure – no wall, no ‘beautiful’ healthcare plan, actually NOTHING but blithering idiocy and a stupid & unsustainable tax cut.

  12. Quick Joey Small July 22, 2019 at 10:56 am #

    “Everything you know is wrong.” Firesign Theatre.

    It used to be that the wizards behind the curtain wanted to whip us into a frenzy of patriotic fervor, uniting us in order to direct us. Remember the Maine? They lied, but it was in the service of constructing a popular narrative.

    Now they simply baffle us with bullshit. Nobody knows what is true. We just know somebody, maybe everybody, lies. We pick a team and play along. Baseball in the dark. Business as usual behind the screen as the mob roils and consumes fake news, fake food, and fake leaders.

    “Testimony” is Roman for “I swear on my balls.” Maybe the penalty for perjury should reflect this.

    • malthuss July 22, 2019 at 11:03 am #

      “Everything you know is wrong.” Firesign Theatre.
      If you believe what the mainstream news claims. They are the fake news.

    • montsegur July 22, 2019 at 11:20 am #


      Yeah. The noise has overwhelmed the signal.


    • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 11:55 am #

      Here, here.

      I wonder if the inter party slander would slow down if the slander laws were enforced. It sure would create a lot of wealthy lawyers. I would love to see Nadler, Schiff and Green in court for shooting their mouths off with no backup, like they do.

    • toktomi July 22, 2019 at 10:10 pm #



      “It’s all bullshit, folks, and it’s bad for ya.” George Carlin

      It’s not a literal Matrix but the surrealism is equally complete and compulsory, from birth to death. What is really crazy and sad to me is that it doesn’t require a red pill to get out – just say, “bullshit”; quit listening to the silliness and for god’s sake quit debating about all these goofy bastards, their exploits, and the exploits of their make believe nation.

      There is only ONE point to be focused upon – how am I going to manage to stay alive through the dieoff?

      oh, shit, I could be wrong!


  13. SoftStarLight July 22, 2019 at 11:00 am #

    It’s almost too good to be true. The most powerful connivers never seem to meet their deserved fates. At least from the perspective of impatient and insignificant little people. But eventually there is a price to pay for arrogance and over confidence. We can only hope that Mr. Mueller’s bill is coming due and very soon. But I fear he will have protectors and handlers in important places to prevent any such day of reckoning from actually unfolding. I hope I am wrong and I want to be wrong.

    • malthuss July 22, 2019 at 11:09 am #

      It is all a big yawn.

      • SoftStarLight July 22, 2019 at 11:26 am #

        Yes – welcome to the Age of Meaninglessness

        • malthuss July 22, 2019 at 12:23 pm #

          Age of Corrupt pols and business people.

          • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 1:41 am #

            Yep, and their meaning is found in accumulating lots and lots of money and stuff. I imagine its kinda like Wall Street and K Street being addicted to the meth that they manufacture.

  14. malthuss July 22, 2019 at 11:01 am #

    Ms Eisenhower would pay for her own stamps.
    how things have changed.

    After spending nearly $100 million taxpayer dollars on vacations over the course of 8 years (see “Obama’s Vacation Costs Expected To Top $90 Million Over 8 Years”), Obama couldn’t wait to retire???? to go on even more vacations. Yachting w D Geffen etc.

    In fact, the Obamas wrapped up their last official $4 million, taxpayer-funded trip to Hawaii on January 2nd, then departed the White House on January 20th and headed straight for Palm Springs for some golf just before joining Billionaire Richard Branson on his private island in the British Virgin Islands.

    • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 11:08 am #

      I do not know why you would bring that up when Trump has spent well over 100 million on golf alone, or did you not know that?

      • malthuss July 22, 2019 at 11:09 am #

        In2 years he spent 100M on golf??

        • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 11:26 am #


          I just picked the first story when I did a search, there are hundreds of sites saying the same thing.

          • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 12:08 pm #

            I notice that Trump spends very little on himself playing golf, at his clubs, in his homes or his hotels.

            His accompanying group of protection is the guilty party, and think of how much it costs for that horde of media that are omnipresent.

            Air Force One is a requirement when he travels, as its presence is dictated in case of a real emergency, remember W and 9/11.

            I do get tired of the Trump bashing. The security would not even be necessary if it wasn’t for the nuts that are always with us, since Lincoln. Spend 100 million getting rid of the nuts!

          • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 12:19 pm #

            John, you cannot complain about the costs of Obama’s golf and vacations and dismiss the costs of Trump’s outings.

            Just accept it and move on, it is the only logical and honest thing to do.

          • malthuss July 22, 2019 at 12:27 pm #

            I didnt know.
            However in one case, Obama went to Hawaii on one jet and ‘Michael’ on another.
            They both hate the USDA, this is obvious to me.

          • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 12:40 pm #


            I have not complained about any of the Presidents and their leisure time.

            Matter of fact, whatever they do to get the aholes in DC off their minds for a few days is cool.

            Besides, a hundred million is pocket change in DC. We have overspent 22 trillion dollars in DC, 100 million is .05% of our debt, maybe we better figure something else to worry about.

          • Majella July 24, 2019 at 8:50 pm #

            @ JohnAZ – I’m pretty sure that

            a) the protection unit is mandatory (Trump could conserve the expenses by staying home a bit more often instead of holding court at Mar-a-Lago, Bedminster and his other resorts.

            b) I’m pretty sure the ‘hordes’ of media are NOT there on the taxpayers’ dime.

        • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 11:32 am #

          Do not take this as a endorsement of Obama, he is one of my least favorite politicians.

          • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 12:12 pm #

            Since Eisenhower, Presidents have been criticized for golf ie leisure time. Reagan for visiting the Western White House and riding his horse, Obama Hawaii and golf.

            Get off these guys backs and go enjoy your own vacation where at least you have some peace and quiet and privacy.

          • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 12:47 pm #

            I really meant Conservatives in general, and I agree spending and graft by politicians is the least of our problems.

        • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 12:36 pm #

          I was not aware the Obama hated the US Department of Agriculture! 🙂

      • SoftStarLight July 22, 2019 at 11:26 am #

        Haven’t all of these people become pigs at a trough? I mean if the trough keeps getting refilled with food do you expect the pigs to leave?

        • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 11:28 am #

          You should never put too much faith in people who think a hard days work is sitting in a comfy chair and saying Present!

          • SoftStarLight July 22, 2019 at 11:33 am #

            That is very true!!

  15. malthuss July 22, 2019 at 11:02 am #

    This is for Janos
    Extraordinary violence and aggression is not just confined to black people from Africa.
    Its seems to affect all manner of fauna.
    Steve Sailer suggests this could be because man and animals have interacted over a much longer time span than elsewhere and thus animals are wary of humans.
    Thus the African elephant, Zebra, buffalo etc were never domesticated whereas people ride horses, elephants and buffalo elsewhere.
    But I think there is something else going on.
    There are reptiles and even insects who, in their African versions are also more aggressive.
    The ‘African’ honeybee is famously aggressive and useless to beekeepers as a result.
    The African Rock Python is also too vicious to be kept as a ‘pet’ as compared to the more easily handled Burmese version. While poisonous snakes everywhere will bite, African vipers are notoriously aggressive.
    The black mamba will pursue a man or animal who disturbs it not just rattle or reveal its presence to ward off enemies. Obviously the snake cannot eat a man or large mammal but it will bite it nonetheless because it is African and mean. While a large alligator will, on occasion kill a person ( there have been about 25 reported cases in Florida since 1950) the Nile crocodile kills people routinely and in large numbers.
    The hippopotamus is known as one of the most dangerous animals in Africa even though humans pose no threat to it. African rhinos attack Landrovers filled with tourists on photo safaris which does not seem to happen in Asia where the beasts have just as much reason to fear humans.
    In 2005, a Nile crocodile called Osama was captured after a rampage that claimed the lives of 83 people in southern Uganda. Osama, which dragged people from the banks of lake Victoria or from boats into its lair, was seized after a tempting pair of cow lungs were left as bait within a copper snare. Osama was sold for breeding stock and transferred to a diet of chickens.

    If nature is red in tooth and claw everywhere, in Africa ( and America’s ghettos) it goes beyond being a means to acquire food but an ‘attitude’ where being violent and mean is how animals interact with one another.

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    • montsegur July 22, 2019 at 11:25 am #


      I think it is more an aspect of tropical and sub-tropical regions. The south of the USA has some aggressive and/or poisonous flora and fauna. Cottonmouths are known for aggressive behavior. I expect it gets worse as one heads into central America and down into the Amazon area.

      I’ve seen video of leopards attacking people in India. Cunning and ornery.


    • Epicur July 22, 2019 at 12:01 pm #

      “If nature is red in tooth and claw everywhere, in Africa ( and America’s ghettos) it goes beyond being a means to acquire food but an ‘attitude’ where being violent and mean is how animals interact with one another.”

      Richard Wrangham proposes that the process of self domestication in humans has selected FOR active aggression and AGAINST reactive aggression. Most of the violence you describe is the reactive kind. although there is certainly plenty of the active, predatory type.

      The two types of violence are located in two different parts of the brain and react differently to drugs/medications.

      I should mention that Wrangham does not dare to touch racial/ethnic differences with a barge pole.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2019 at 3:09 pm #

      America is mostly troubled by Japanese imports, both plant and insect, since Japan is at about the same latitude as much of America, with similar hardwood forests, etc.

      This is fascinating. Richard Lynn, perhaps the foremost living expert on human IQ and racial diversity, says that American Indians have a higher rate of psychopathology than Blacks. I’m very surprised, but they do have an incredible record of cruelty as Tate pointed out. I haven’t had much personal experience with them so I don’t have much to add from that end.


      On the other hand, most tribes prayed for the spirit of the animals they had just killed, apologizing and explaining they needed its meat. I’ve never heard of Black Africans doing anything similar. I’ve seen videos of Blacks laughing as animals die in agony though….

  16. Doctor Freckles July 22, 2019 at 11:07 am #

    It’s a mess out there …


  17. malthuss July 22, 2019 at 11:08 am #

    I went to a talk on 5G, given by an MD,
    If she is telling the truth, its alarming.

    Indeed, I knew someone who had a friend and both her friends children got brain cancer.

    here >>>>>>

    Fifth Generation Wireless Technology (5G) is about to be rolled out in our communities without responsible governmental oversight. This technology requires cell tower transmitters in front of every 4-12 homes and will generate a massive radiation increase.

    More than 230 scientists from 41 countries have expressed serious concern regarding the exposure to electromagnetic radiation even before the additional 5G roll out. They have quoted studies that show cancer risk, increase in harmful free radicals, damage to our DNA and to the reproductive system, learning and memory deficits and neurological disorders.

    These scientists predict a biological, environmental as well as societal disruption resulting from this technology that will be difficult or impossible to reverse.

    • Ol' Scratch July 22, 2019 at 11:17 am #

      Relax. After we all receive the mandatory brain chip implants, they’ll transmit anesthesia waves through the 5G so soothing that you’ll forget you’re even alive. I’m also told that the sudden execution shock they’ll send out shortly after that is mercifully humane as well. It’ll all be over before you know it.

      • montsegur July 22, 2019 at 11:28 am #

        I’d guess there has already been a fair amount of classified research done regarding the effects of various fields and frequencies on human perception. Gotta mind those minds, you know.


      • SoftStarLight July 22, 2019 at 11:32 am #

        I wonder when to expect the mandatory rollout of the chip? It’s already happening in volunteer situations around the world from what I understand. And then many people are chipped already via smart devices, debit cards, etc.

    • Quick Joey Small July 22, 2019 at 11:39 am #

      “I went to a talk on 5G, given by an MD,
      If she is telling the truth, its alarming.”

      Sounds like an old Dylan tune!

      We gotta have 5G to maintain our leadership position in cancer and craziness.

    • Quick Joey Small July 22, 2019 at 11:40 am #

      When do I get my 5G implant?

    • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 11:40 am #

      I moved here 18 years ago and the amount of birds in the back yard was amazing, maybe 20 species and sometimes there were 5 or 6 hundred birds at the same time.

      It was noisy and fantastic, then they installed a monster cell tower less than 1/2 mile away and all the birds are gone.

      Even with three feeders only 8 chickadees and a few crows show up nowadays.

      5G will only make it worse and might kill me also.

      • Quick Joey Small July 22, 2019 at 12:05 pm #

        I grew up in the Sonoran desert. The insect count is devastatingly down here. Used to have to wash your windshield every 50 miles this time of year. Clouds of grasshoppers with every step. I hiked this morning and saw a grasshopper. One. 2 butterflies where there were once multitudes.

        The bird count is weird. Still plenty of some natives. The Gambel’s quail, various doves, and roadrunners seem fine with golf courses, strip malls and tickytacky. My neighborhood, on the bleeding edge of NW Phoenix, has robust populations of Great Horned owls. Mostly though it is exotics: English sparrows, grackles, starlings, pigeons. I have not seen a kingbird or a loggerhead shrike in years.

        Locals see it all in terms of habitat destruction, which has been profound. The idea that our beloved cell phones are killing the world has not gotten around much, yet. I think you are correct.

        • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 12:30 pm #


          I live near you, NE of Mesa but near the desert. Birds are common here, all kinds. But recent neighborhood talk has said dead birds being found a lot recently. And yes, we have had a cell tower installed about a 1/2 a mile away.


          My comment of the 5g posts is

          Who is getting the benefit economically from 5g. If this is to assuage all the children, both in government and out that they will have faster video speeds on their cell phones then it is no wonder there is no oversight.

          Does the FCC Or the FDA have any input? Long term effects are never and I mean never monitored. I guess law suits are the only defense, but then it is too late and the aholes who did it are long gone. Think baby powder, asbestos, cell phones, and now maybe 5g. How can the public block this travesty?

        • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2019 at 12:31 pm #

          Up here in NE frogs and squirrels are getting scarce too. And I’m not seeing many rabbits around anymore either.

          Now bears are a different story. Everytime I turn around there’s a black bear loping thru the property.

          A few years back now boxer Mike Tyson had two giant white tigers at his house just a few hundred yards from here. I was always afraid those f#kkers were going to get loose and go on a neighborhood rampage; they never did and finally the town made him get rid of them.

          I think it would take more than a .30-30 to stop one of those big cats.


          • capt spaulding July 22, 2019 at 12:42 pm #

            Many species, birds, insects, bees, etc., are in decline, some seriously in decline. People should worry about the bees in particular, they do a lot of the pollinating. I for one, do not want to have to put old wool socks over my arms, and run through the fields and flowers waving my arms and pollinating everything in sight. That’s what the bees are for, dammit.

          • malthuss July 22, 2019 at 12:46 pm #

            You know about the other tigers? Let loose in Ohio.

            Bizarre big game hunt ends in blood bath:

            Nearly FIFTY exotic animals running wild in Zanesville, Ohio
            shot dead after reserve owner set them free then killed himself

            Police have rounded up last of ‘mature, aggressive wild animals’
            Residents permitted to go outdoors after beasts spotted roaming the highways killed
            Owner freed animals before shooting himself
            He had recently been in jail on weapons charges and had a record for animal cruelty

            Grey squirrels or red? the greys carry some disease that kills the red, little, cute ones. The greys look like hairy rats.

          • malthuss July 22, 2019 at 12:49 pm #



          • Quick Joey Small July 22, 2019 at 12:52 pm #

            I met Tyson out and about near his house in Paradise Valley. Strange cat. He kept and flew pigeons, who shat copiously upon his outraged neighbors.

            I would have taken up falconry.

      • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 1:00 pm #

        This is one area that the Dems beat the Republicans hands down. Trump is proving to be the worst environmental president in history.

        He has no regard for nature at all, before the Russia Gate thing side tracked him he was intent on destroying all the National Monuments by selling them off to industry.

        Here is an article describing some of his actions :


        • Exscotticus July 22, 2019 at 1:54 pm #

          >>> Trump is proving to be the worst environmental president in history.

          LOL! Tell us what has happened under Trump that’s worse than the BP Oil Spill under Obama?!

          You TDS Lefties really need to think before you post. History is just not your friend.

          Obama campaigned on ending offshore oil drilling. He then flip-flopped and allowed it. Then the oil spill happened. Oops! Naturally, Obama flip-flopped AGAIN and disallowed it. Then some years went by and he flip-flopped AGAIN and allowed it.

          Please link to where you criticized Obama for flip-flopping multiple times on an environmental issue that, “is regarded as one of the largest environmental disasters in American history.”

          • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 3:19 pm #

            You are typing for nothing, I come here just to have some fun not get into long angry confrontations.

          • Exscotticus July 22, 2019 at 4:15 pm #

            In other words, you can’t counter and won’t admit you’re wrong. Got it. Check.

          • Q. Shtik July 22, 2019 at 9:02 pm #

            I come here just to have some fun – Hansen


            He comes here to type should of just to stir me up.

          • Majella July 24, 2019 at 8:54 pm #

            A total non-sequitur.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2019 at 2:58 pm #

      What is the ostensible reason for this technology? What are they telling us?

  18. peter m July 22, 2019 at 12:29 pm #

    To the great surprise of Mr. Mueller and his “team,” Mr. Prigozhin hired some American lawyers to defend his company in court. Smooth move.

    Clapper was right, those damn Russian, you cannot trust them to not bite back…it is all in their unreliable genes..

  19. volodya July 22, 2019 at 1:46 pm #

    Plus it appears that Comey was secretly investigating Trump. To which everyone will say no shit Sherlock, tell us something we don’t know. Apparently he was trying to build a conspiracy case against Trump. OK, yeah, half of Washington was in on that.


    What these ninnies forgot is that if you want to get rid of him via – cough – legal proceedings, and you can’t find anything to stick him with, and then if you don’t have it in yourself anymore to do a Dealey Plaza-Ambassador Hotel, you make shit up, you fabricate evidence, you make up a bogus case. I mean, this Russia Collusion case was bogus in its entirety.

    But if you don’t have anything with Russia and don’t have the imagination and creative and technical ability to make anything up, then pick another avenue. Something that has a better chance of sticking. I dunno, money laundering or something.

    Obvious though, they never thought things through, that if the Russia case was nonsense, without a stitch of evidence, then why proceed with it, then fall on your face and look altogether ridiculous? Out of all this Trump ended up looking good, the various actors inside the Deep State incompetent.

    Looking like maroons and baffoons – in front of China especially – is never a good thing.

    • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 1:52 pm #

      The Democrats are not competent in this area, they should of had a Linda Tripp working in the back ground and then they would have had more success.

    • rackslope July 22, 2019 at 8:27 pm #

      No-one wants to believe that everything we see and are prodded to “know” is scripted. What if those behind the curtain really are THAT smart.

      “Out of all this Trump ended up looking good, the various actors inside the Deep State incompetent.”

      What if that was the intended result. Unnerving and disheartening.

      ‘Sun Tzu’-ish even.

  20. lbs July 22, 2019 at 1:58 pm #

    Too bad there’s no thumbs up button. There are some great zingers on this thread.

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  21. elysianfield July 22, 2019 at 2:04 pm #

    Well, ladies and germs;

    Good news! The BBC, this AM, reports;

    Oregon has just recently passed legislation that provides for 5 days of “mental health” absences from each three month school segment. Each student, at it’s discretion, will be able to retreat to his/her/its safe space to promote it’s “mental health”. The ostensible reason for this progressive agenda is thus;

    “According to data from Oregon’s Health Authority, nearly 17% of eighth-graders (13 and 14-year-olds) had reported seriously contemplating taking their lives in the past 12 months.”

    I, along with others who are concerned, sincerely hope that the 5 days of hiatus will allow each student to achieve the goals they contemplate…which, of course, is positive mental health.

    This legislation’s genesis was four teenagers in Portland, Oregon who somehow developed the requisite judgment, wisdom, and political wherewithal, to make this outrage happen.

    How do you like it now. Gentlemen?

    • elysianfield July 22, 2019 at 2:09 pm #

      And…the link;


    • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2019 at 2:17 pm #

      “Dude, lets skip today.

      “I scored an oz of some really bitchin Oaxacan Red. Goin’ to meet some tail at the lake.

      “Dude, we’ll take a mental health day. It totally legit. Here, have a blunt

      “Far out”


      • Ol' Scratch July 22, 2019 at 2:43 pm #

        Those were the days!

      • Q. Shtik July 23, 2019 at 10:57 pm #

        It totally legit. – BRH


        Nice touch with the Ebonics…doing away with the verb ‘to be.’

    • volodya July 22, 2019 at 2:20 pm #

      This is reality outside the bounds of that pathetic ninny-bubble you just described:


      Top ten countries 2015-2016

      1. Singapore 551.7
      2. Hong Kong 532.7
      3. Japan 528.7
      4. Macau 527.3
      5. Estonia 524.3
      6. Canada 523.7
      7. Taiwan 523.7
      8. Finland 522.7
      9. South Korea 519.0
      10. China 514.3

      USA was 31st. Enough with the excuses.

      • Exscotticus July 22, 2019 at 2:49 pm #

        Now what do 9 out of 10 of these nations have in common? Hint: it ain’t diversity and multiculturalism.

        When we grow up in a world where Dems and the MSM reject the traditional American value of merit-based achievement, well, this is what you get.

        Every illiterate peasant that crosses the border lowers the scores. That’s on Dems and RINOs.

        Republicans have been pushing for school choice for decades. Dems fight them every step of the way.

        • malthuss July 22, 2019 at 7:03 pm #

          Wall St Journal has a write up;


          The level of denial of science / DNA is amazing.

          But it is the mainstream news. written by Gamerman,


      • malthuss July 22, 2019 at 7:03 pm #

        Whites are to be a minority in USA.
        Give it to me by Race, in Canada and USA.

    • montsegur July 22, 2019 at 2:21 pm #

      So will employment background investigations in the future feature the question “did you take days off from school for reasons of mental health?”

      May be some unintended consequences lurking in what comes.

      I’m torn on this one, but not because of the issue per se. I wonder if this social structure we call the “K-12 school system” is an obsolescent (if not obsolete) way of educating children. Could it be that the kids smell that? Not that I believe most of them will make great use of the “off” time, but one never knows.


      • volodya July 22, 2019 at 2:43 pm #

        It could be on its way out. While it was once a way of promoting mass literacy and numeracy, and while it once enjoyed popular support and a profession dedicated to the cause, that doesn’t seem to be as much the case anymore. It appears that the profession is no longer interested anymore in fulfilling its mandate and it appears that there are growing numbers of parents and their offspring that aren’t interested in even basic education. In which case, what’s the point? Ironic that they’re pushing higher education while degrading K-12.

        I’m a believer in not wasting time and money. So, if teachers and edu-crats figure they have priorities other than teaching and if students and parents figure that the three r’s and geography and science and history are boring and irrelevant, then spend money on people who are interested. IOW, time to do a revamp.

        Those PISA test results are not encouraging.

        • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 3:11 pm #

          I visited my daughter’s 4th grade classroom and saw a bulletin board with three different ways of doing multiplication on it. Administrative direction to teach three different ways and let the student choose which one they would use. I couldn’t believe it.

          It is hard enough to teach one multiplication technique and get it hammered into place. The test scores sure show that the idiots in charge of curriculum do not have a clue what they are doing.

          I do smell Montessori theory here.

          PS. My daughter teaches one form of multiplication and teaches math facts with flash cards. Memorization. I want you to to guess whose class gets the highest fourth grade math scores in her school.

          • malthuss July 22, 2019 at 7:04 pm #

            its to dumb Whites and Yellows down, Id guess.

    • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 2:45 pm #

      At 13 I had two major concerns, how far could I ride my bike that day and how pretty girls got seemingly over night.

      Everybody was thin and fit and spent as much time outside as possible.

      Nowadays kids go from out of shape to obese and their I phone is the most important thing in their life. The funny thing is they never talk on the phone, it is all texting even when they are sitting next to each other.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2019 at 6:15 pm #

      I’m glad you said its….

      Mohammad predicted that towards the end of time, many would lose gender. He said that such people would be evil and to be avoided.

  22. FincaInTheMountains July 22, 2019 at 2:54 pm #

    Regarding the Freedom of Speech in the United States

    Yesterday I was in two Orthodox churches and in one Catholic (at a concert), and everywhere I was greeted with a question:

    “So what happened on the Russian submarine?”

    So this episode received decent coverage in the American press. Decent not in the sense of truthful or honest, but in the sense of attracting attention.

    At the same time, if I had not woken up at 3 am Moscow time that night, and would not have looked at the news, I would never have known about the connection of fire on the Losharik with the state of emergency in the United States, which made Pence to turn around half way from Washington, which occurred on the night of July 2 to 3 in the mind of American bloggers and members of the forum – Trump’s supporters.

    At 8 am on July 3, when I went to bed, the sensation and panic caused by it disappeared without a trace.

    I started asking my acquaintances about what they know about the fire on the Losharik and why they think that Putin should have become one of its victims, and it turned out that they did not know anything about this panic, and in order to convince them in that this panic took place, I had to show a screenshot of the query in the Google “Pence emergency” done that night, and if we now limit this search to the corresponding timeframe, the result will be significantly different from the result then.


    And if before that the interest of my friends to the issue of a fire on Losharik was somewhat idle, and my stories about Sakharov’s plan caused ironic smiles on their faces, after seeing this screenshot, the American “on duty” smiles disappeared somewhere and they suddenly told me (all three times) that their attention was attracted not by the fire on the July 1 and its media coverage, but by the words of captain Pavlov at the funeral of the dead sailors about the planetary catastrophe they prevented with their lives.


    And before the conversation with me they believed that a fire on a submarine, when the head of state and at least 7 captains of the first rank are present, is another evidence of the inability of the Russian sailors to provide an elementary level of safety on the Russian nuclear submarines and a planetary catastrophe could not possibly be a nuclear attack on the continental United States after the CIA sabotage on the Russian submarine or mega-tsunami, 400 meters high, hitting the East Coast.

    • Ol' Scratch July 22, 2019 at 4:58 pm #

      So perhaps we could have a three or four sentence summation in simple declarative sentences to cut through the broken English syntax and old world storytelling stylistic flourishes above?

      For instance, it appears that you might be saying that the Losharik was either involved in or might have nearly precipitated a Russian underwater nuclear torpedo attack on the US. Is that remotely correct? If so, another sentence or two to support and/or explain that assertion might be in order. Just a thought.

      Sometimes less is more when storytelling, Ol’ Finc; massive psychoactive herbal and distilled spirits induced verbal diarrhea notwithstanding.

      • FincaInTheMountains July 22, 2019 at 5:39 pm #

        Anybody else agree with an old sophist and need me to spell things out?

        In Russian language sophistry is literally means an “empty bark” – “pusto-breh”. Pusto – means “empty”, and “breh” – means bark.

        Russian language is so much richer than the English!

        • Majella July 24, 2019 at 8:59 pm #

          I just don’t GET your posts…for example:

          “…they believed that a fire on a submarine, when the head of state and at least 7 captains of the first rank are present…” Huh? So, Putin was on the submarine?


          “…nuclear attack on the continental United States after the CIA sabotage on the Russian submarine or mega-tsunami, 400 meters high, hitting the East Coast.” Again, huh? Please explain the reference to the tsunami, at least…

  23. JCalvertNUK July 22, 2019 at 3:54 pm #

    Never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by dementia.

    • FincaInTheMountains July 22, 2019 at 4:00 pm #

      Hanlon’s razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

      In certain circles also known as plausible deniability

      • JCalvertNUK July 25, 2019 at 9:45 pm #

        Yes. But did you notice my ‘clever twist’? After watching clips of Mueller’s performance today, I claim it was “spot-on”!!!

        He’s gone completely ga-ga!

  24. CancelMyCard July 22, 2019 at 4:12 pm #

    Well, I guess it is OFFICIAL now — Today’s headline —

    Elizabeth Warren predicts U.S. downturn, says economy’s ‘warning lights are flashing’

    Do tell?

    That’s definitely news to us, no??

    • Ol' Scratch July 22, 2019 at 4:41 pm #

      Realistic, for sure, but I can’t imagine that will be a winning message for her politically. Trump will beat her with it relentlessly, should she ever get that far. Americans would rather believe in the tooth fairy than their lying eyes.

      • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2019 at 4:55 pm #

        Depends scratch. Election is 16 long months from now, there could be a downturn. A lot could happen between now and then.

        After Trump, the Deluge.


        • Ol' Scratch July 22, 2019 at 5:02 pm #

          OMG! My favorite Jackson Browne song EVUH! Before the Deluge


          • CancelMyCard July 22, 2019 at 6:54 pm #

            Après nous le déluge

            — Louis XV of France, I believe

    • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 4:50 pm #

      Saw this.

      She is known as a great prognosticator and economist. The economy is getting soft, she says!

      So what to do?

      Ah! Let us raise taxes, good idea, the people do not need more money, or our companies to face a recession.

      Oh yeah, let’s give more money to people that do not belong here in the first place, and take it away from the people that do belong here.

      Both ideas should just really help the economy and Wall Street stay strong.

      Unless your real aim is to tear down the economy for your globalist friends.

      Nah that can’t be.

    • Exscotticus July 22, 2019 at 4:58 pm #

      Even the NYT admits that most Americans got a tax cut under Trump.

      But if Warren and other Dems were truly concerned, they’d vote for another middle class tax cut right now—today. Far from campaigning on tax cuts, Dems are promising more taxes than ever. Healthcare for illegals ain’t cheap. Dems need and want a recession to improve their 2020 odds.

      • jdhines July 23, 2019 at 12:29 pm #


        >>> … Americans got a tax cut under Trump. (… you mean SOME Americans got a tax cut, right?)

        What of the Tea Party of yore and budgetary constraints? Giving the wealthy, tax cuts, while the debt is ass high to giraffe? Certainly, you were a fan of the TEA PARTY, no? Please link to the articles you approved of during that time. How times (and people) have changed, eh? What’s different, EX?

        “… the tea party was on its way out before Trump emerged on the scene. Almost since the moment the tea party movement pushed through the Budget Control Act in 2011, politicians — on both sides — have been trying to claw back some of the spending they gave up in that deal.

        But the emergence of Trump — and congressional Republicans’ complete capitulation to, well, Trumpism, has clearly sped up the death of the movement. He doesn’t care about debt and deficit and so now neither do they.

        Looking back over the last 10 years, it’s a remarkable arc. The tea party was the dominant movement in American politics at the start of the decade — seizing control of the Republican Party and pushing out Speaker John Boehner (Ohio) in the process. But then the tea party forces watched as Trump grabbed the GOP by the throat and (still) hasn’t let go.

        The tea party has been left dead by the side of the road, one of the many casualties of presidency of Donald Trump.”

        Ah, Ex, for the good old Tea Party days, yeah?

        • Exscotticus July 23, 2019 at 3:37 pm #

          >>> Certainly, you were a fan of the TEA PARTY, no? Please link to the articles you approved of during that time.

          No I never was. And so I can’t provide, and you won’t find, any posts by me in support of that movement.

          But I do support lowering taxes for all Americans. I do support reducing government spending.

          So sorry if you don’t believe the same.

          The fact is that no one gets political points for fiscal responsibility. And why should one administration make sacrifices only to see the opposition come in and spend it all for their benefit?

          The only way we’ll ever pay down the debt is an extreme bipartisan effort. Something like a Constitutional amendment modelled after the 2013 budget sequestration.

          • jdhines July 23, 2019 at 4:54 pm #

            How do you feel about balanced budgets and paying for your previous spendthrift ways? How do you feel about leaving your debts for others to pay? So you are suggesting that running a huge bill is fine, if it’s for Republican BS. I see your take on this.

          • Exscotticus July 23, 2019 at 5:49 pm #

            >>> How do you feel about leaving your debts for others to pay?

            Well how do the Dems feel about it? Obama doubled the national debt. Were all those tears and hysterics on Election Day 2016 because of the debt Obama passed on to his successor?

          • Majella July 24, 2019 at 9:07 pm #

            Exscotticus –

            Given that Obama’s administration inherited the worst financial crisis in living memory, along with GWB’s last budget and the lingering fiscal effects of two pointless wars, he can be said to have done an amazing job compared to the alternatives.

            Also, are you conveniently forgetting his 2010 tax cuts, which were aimed at the lower end of the socio-economic pile?

          • Exscotticus July 24, 2019 at 9:21 pm #

            >>> he can be said to have done an amazing job compared to the alternatives

            The “alternative” was to prosecute those who created “the worst financial crisis in living memory” and break up any and all banks deemed “too big to fail”. He did neither. He promised change. What change? Dems finally got their man in office and what did he do? Well, he largely did exactly what Bush did. In fact, Obama really never encountered a Bush policy he didn’t like. Whether it was torturing, assassinating, locking suspects up indefinitely without a trial, trying suspects in secret courts with secret witnesses and secret evidence, domestic spying, offshore drilling, the continuation of the “war on terror”, deficit spending—you name the Bush policy and Obama was likely for it. Hope and change indeed.

    • Q. Shtik July 22, 2019 at 9:33 pm #

      Do tell? – CancelMyCard


      Well, we DO have an inverted yield curve which has been an excellent predictor of future recession although not infallible. Here’s the story: Every recession has been preceded by an inverted yield curve although not every inverted yield curve has been followed by a recession.

      Here’s another thing: the stock market does not necessarily reflect the economy but there is usually a correlation. I collect certain market data and apply my own proprietary formula to this data to derive an over-bought/over-sold oscillator. Last week the formula was strongly indicating an over-bought condition meaning we should have a correction and sure enough the market has begun to weaken although very modestly.

      To sum up, I don’t see Warren’s prediction as totally crazy.

      • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 10:45 pm #

        Inverted yield curve, maybe that is why the Fed is going to lower in July.

        Trump understands more about the economy and what makes it tick than the entirety of the Democrat party.

        • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 10:47 pm #

          Line up one hundred economists on a straight line and they will all point in a different direction. Elizabeth Warren is no expert on the economy. Trump is!

          • Majella July 24, 2019 at 9:09 pm #

            Trump an ‘expert’ on the economy? All that high-end education at Wharton, I suppose. Gee – it’d be nice to see his transcripts.

      • Epicur July 23, 2019 at 12:35 am #

        If you want to see a better predictor of recessions search for “Middleton Animal Spirits” and read the works of Eliot Middleton on human response to breaks in habituation. Short version: when layoffs start people stop spending money on non-essentials and since 70% of GDP is consumer spending a recession results.

        Now you know why the goobermint goes to so much trouble faking the numbers.

        • Epicur July 23, 2019 at 12:37 am #

          Erratum: Elliott Middleton, not Eliot.

      • elysianfield July 23, 2019 at 12:51 pm #

        “To sum up, I don’t see Warren’s prediction as totally crazy.”

        Totally crazy? I do not see it as anything but a platitude….

    • EvelynV July 23, 2019 at 2:49 am #

      You fucking fool, Kunstler tells us that almost every time he posts a new essay. Why the hell are you hanging around stinking up this web site if it’s news to you?

      • benr July 23, 2019 at 10:57 am #

        Pull the cat claws in dunce.

      • Q. Shtik July 23, 2019 at 10:57 am #

        You fucking fool, – Eve


        It would help if you’d let us know who you’re talking to.

      • CancelMyCard July 23, 2019 at 11:25 am #


        Do you ALWAYS require a


        notation to recognize sarcasm?!?!

        • benr July 24, 2019 at 10:08 am #


  25. deetrump July 22, 2019 at 5:30 pm #

    “I think we will come out on top [against Iran, China, Europe, and Russia], that’s how.” –brh

    Given we were defeated in Vietnam by the communists and we were defeated in Afghanistan by the jihadists, I would not bet on defeating Iran by itself, let alone allied with Europe, China and Russia. Your exceptionalism is showing, brh.

    After more than 15 years (2.5 years under Trump), the US military has stopped publicizing how much of Afghanistan is controlled by the Taliban. Instead, Trump is talking to the Taliban, an admission that we cannot defeat them militarily. Iran would defeat us easily.


    Trump is so weak as a commander in chief he is seeking help from Pakistan to help mediate with the Taliban. A military victory is not possible. The Taliban have won.


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    • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 5:49 pm #

      The U.S. wants to sell Taiwan 2.2 Billion dollars of weapons in direct opposition to China’s wishes. It will be interesting to see what happens as China has said they will go to war if we insist on interfering with their vassal state.

      It seems the whole MICC is seriously delusional at this point if they think they can do what ever they want without consequences.


      • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2019 at 6:07 pm #

        Taiwan isn’t a vassal state. Its an independent country.

        Taiwan is so dug in and well defended, the PLA would be wiped out in the straits before they set one toe on the island, not one toe,


        • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 6:25 pm #

          Taiwan will not be fighting China but China will be fighting the U.S.

          Maybe we can defeat China in two days also?

          • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2019 at 6:38 pm #

            I was just an E-5, its above my paygrade. We are committed by treaty to come to Taiwans aid if China makes a move. Taiwan may not need our help, nor ask for it.


          • elysianfield July 23, 2019 at 12:53 pm #

            ” Taiwan may not need our help, nor ask for it.”

            They do…they will.

        • Exscotticus July 22, 2019 at 6:35 pm #

          >>> Taiwan isn’t a vassal state. Its an independent country.

          Yes Hong Kong is the vassal state. But I think it’s fair to say that Taiwan isn’t entirely independent, either.

          The question is: Will Xi Jinping risk war by invading?

          Time would not be on China’s side; the longer the carnage, the more the world would feel compelled to isolate China and cripple the aggressors financially. I think Xi rightly calculates that America will not go to war over Taiwan. But I doubt we’d sit by idly, either. And—ultimately—what’s the point of taking Taiwan if you have to obliterate it in the process?

          • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 8:30 pm #

            Hong Kong was leased by England for 99 years. When that lease ran out, England honored the terms and left, after negotiated with the Chinese over the relationship between Hong Kong and China. Since, Hong Kong has given China a few lessons on the goodness of capitalism which has shifted China’s direction.

            Hong Kong should give a few lessons to some folks over here.

            China and Hong Kong are still negotiating!

          • Exscotticus July 22, 2019 at 11:29 pm #

            I dunno. Looks to me like China is reneging on their agreement.

            Interestingly, the same extradition issue happened in the American British Colonies. The Brits at that time didn’t trust the Colonial justice system to deliver the pro-Brit justice they mandated. So any case of interest underwent extradition. The rest is history…

          • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 10:13 am #

            I don’t think the Hong Kong Chinese are going to be able to fight the PRC for independence, though, Exscotticus, do you?

            The thing is they only needed to wait. The treaty (which China now says was just some cute and endearing historical document with no actual meaning) only gave Hong Kong agreed guarantees for 50 years anyway, but China couldn’t wait that long. I guess the men in suits felt they were on a roll with the Uighurs.

          • Exscotticus July 23, 2019 at 8:46 pm #

            >>> I don’t think the Hong Kong Chinese are going to be able to fight the PRC for independence, though, Exscotticus, do you?


            GreenAlba you have a new PM. CONGRATULATIONS! We hear he’s called BoJo. Love it!

          • GreenAlba July 24, 2019 at 4:40 am #


            It appears you don’t care that much about democracy in either the UK or Hong Kong.

            Should I be surprised that you LOVE the ‘election’ of a PM on the basis of the votes of 92,153 well heeled people? The population of the UK is 66 million, in case you were wondering.

          • GreenAlba July 24, 2019 at 4:41 am #

            Expect another vote before too long. A vote of no confidence in BoJoke.

          • Exscotticus July 24, 2019 at 1:47 pm #

            >>> Should I be surprised that you LOVE the ‘election’ of a PM on the basis of the votes of 92,153 well heeled people?

            Since I’m American, I celebrate the diversity of democratic implementations. Who can say which one is best? I have my favorites, of course.

            Just curious, were you demanding a dramatic change to your system of government when your Labor leaders were in power? Or whoever it is that you liked best?

            🎵 All we are saying, is give Bo a chance… 🎵

          • Majella July 25, 2019 at 6:37 pm #

            GA “Expect another vote before long”

            Right, GA. For all it’s faults, the Westminster parliamentary system is capable of rapid change of leadership when necessary.

            So, while the US has no option but to endure the current fool occupying the White House for a further 18 months, BoJoke could be gone by next Wednesday if he pisses off the wrong people.

      • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 8:25 pm #

        Taiwan is not a vassal state of China. They are an independent nation formed when Chiang Kai Chek got thrown off the mainland by Mao after WW2. Why haven’t the Chinese tried to take them over? Because they do not have the blue water naval capability to do it, let alone challenge the American navy.

        • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 9:30 pm #

          The reality is that Trump was an idiot to pull out of the nuclear deal as Iran was complying with all the inspections and all the countries that signed the treaty were satisfied.

          Having a president who is a puppet of Israel is very dangerous and all this drama is solely on Trumps fault.

          Trump is one egging Iran to go to war as the sanctions are crushing their economy and they are selling very little oil and now GB stole one of their largest oil tankers.

          You might not be able to accept the fact but we are not the good guys here.

          • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 10:43 pm #

            Is this the same nuclear deal Iran has been violating the missile clauses on since its inception, the same deal that was totally unverifiable, the same deal that they were able to violate within one week of Trump pulling out. Oh yeah, what a deal.

            No, they shanghied a British tanker, and a Panamanian one.

            Where do you get your stuff, anyway.

            The TDS crew aka CNN?

          • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 11:04 pm #

            That is just propaganda, they had no incentive to violate the deal because they were vulnerable to sanctions.

            All the countries that signed the deal are willing to go against the U.S. because Iran complied fully with inspections even after Trump pulled out.

            Who stole a tanker first, GB, so they retaliated as they should.

            I have never watched CNN in my life.

          • benr July 23, 2019 at 11:00 am #

            @james Hansen

            I find it laughable it’s all propaganda to you when it does not fit your precious narrative.
            Iran is and always has been a liar.
            They want to be a regional power and know unless they develop a nuke of some type it’s just a matter of time before the US knocks on the door and rolls over their entire country.

            If we were smart we would get the people to rise up again and actually support them instead of what Obama did to them!

    • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2019 at 5:56 pm #

      The Navy would sink every Iranian ship, and shoot down every Iranian aircraft, in about 2 days, if it came to that.


      • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2019 at 6:17 pm #

        You’re forgetting about their missile capacity a la Russia. You would lose many of your Zoggish assets.

        • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2019 at 6:34 pm #

          Yeah, like we didn’t posses any military assets before Israel was established in 1947. There’s no doubt Israel right now is providing valuable intel to the US fleet, just as the British were providing up to date intel to the Russian high command during the Battle of Kursk.


          • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2019 at 6:56 pm #

            Valuable to who? Americans? Or the Zoggish Elite who want to invade more Muslim countries – AND bring in more Muslim immigrants to our shores.

            Iran has promised Israel will not escape in the coming War. No hiding behind their Yankee Doodle Golem this time.

          • CancelMyCard July 22, 2019 at 7:05 pm #

            Thanks for correcting Janos.

            He does go on at time.

            But, almost always, he betrays himself.

            That’s the most enjoyable part of observing him.

          • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 8:17 pm #

            Have you all seen the movie, Flight of the Intruder. It was about the A6 used in Viet Nam to destroy a similar situation with missiles in anti aircraft batteries. We now have drones to expose the missile sites. Once exposed they will be terminated quickly.

            Iran will be pulverized by the US if we are egged on into war. And the red line is nuclear capability, and not by just us. The world recognizes a nest of nuts by now. Iran is just a desert with a mountainous northern area where they all live. Bandar Abbas is the sum total of all this military stuff going on in the gulf of Hormuz. Remember too that the goal of the US is not to kill all the Iranians, or even the top dogs. It will be to destroy their nuclear capability. We do not even have to use nukes to do it. Bunker busters and MOABs will take them out.

            Iran’s Shia egos better get under control or their military will be destroyed. Then Saudi Arabia can have their turn with them.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 12:20 am #

            Yeah, just like they shared information about 9/11. Remember the dancing Israelis watching the carnage – and celebrating on a nearby rooftop? Ally? Bullshit.

      • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 6:19 pm #

        It is obvious you have no knowledge of what you are talking about. You make stuff up but Iran has some serious missal capability along side a huge military force.

        Iraq and Afghanistan together are puny compared to Iran and they have numerous allies.

        Going into Iraq was a mistake, Iran would be a monumental disaster.

        • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2019 at 6:24 pm #

          We have serious missile capability too.

          • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 6:38 pm #

            We sure do but a few navy ships cannot compete with the thousands of land bases missiles that Iran has.

            It would be a war of aggression anyway but Israel would over joyed as they have been begging us to destroy Iran for years. Do you think going nuclear is a good idea?

          • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2019 at 6:47 pm #

            Iran is surrounded by super sllent U boats, built by Germany for the Israeli Navy, each one a launch platform for nuclear tipped cruise missiles, patrolling the Red Sea, the Indian Ocean, and the Persian Gulf. Let them Mullahs try to pull any bullsh-t, see what happens to them.


          • CancelMyCard July 22, 2019 at 8:00 pm #


            We got us a real pissing contest here folks!

            Play your tickets and wager your dollars.

            May the best CISgender win!!

        • Q. Shtik July 22, 2019 at 9:57 pm #

          serious missal capability – Hansen



          a book containing the texts used in the Catholic Mass throughout the year.

          • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 10:51 pm #

            I am going to tell the teacher you are picking on me.

        • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 10:36 pm #

          Remember Iraq and Iran fought to a standstill in the 80’s.

        • elysianfield July 23, 2019 at 1:01 pm #

          “Iraq and Afghanistan together are puny compared to Iran”

          Did not Iraq and Iran fight each other to a stand-still a few decades back?

          • James Hansen July 23, 2019 at 5:48 pm #

            Yes they did, another torture we inflicted on Iran. Forty years later they are much better equipped thanks to the U.S. threatening them over that time. They will not fold like Iraq did.

          • Majella July 24, 2019 at 9:16 pm #

            It was a dirty, little proxy war, co-sponsored by the Soviets and the Hawks in DC (and financed, both sides, by Wall St).

            It’s easy to stretch a conflict out over 8 years when neither side is at risk of running out of arms & cannon-fodder.

      • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 6:44 pm #

        I had no idea that we have a treaty with Taiwan but selling them weapons is a risk we should not take.

        • CancelMyCard July 22, 2019 at 8:01 pm #

          Chinamen come,

          and Chinamen go,

          But there is only one


          • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 8:35 pm #

            What are you smoking?

          • malthuss July 23, 2019 at 1:24 am #

            James, hopium?

        • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 10:37 pm #

          James, what is your red line with Taiwan, capitulation?

          • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 10:49 pm #

            I do not know what you mean.

    • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 8:59 pm #

      You do not have a clue what you are talking about!

      We were not defeated by the Vietnamese, but by our own political stupidity in this country. The US won every single battle in Viet Nam and walked away from the country. We feel a compulsion to protect all the world, yet when we go to war, we do not have an end game therefore it lasts forever. Do not get involved in civil wars.

      All the antiwar folks made all your predictions when W went after Hussein in Iraq. Iraq was going to blast us into kingdom come. Again, we blasted them in short order but did not have an end game.

      We will blast Iran into oblivion if we have to with little trouble. The problem continues, however, what then? The last time we messed with Iran it was handled by the CIA only and the Shah was the end game.

      That worked well!

      Without an endgame to improve the lot of Iran, we should not invest our blood in that pit. And yes, it is a pit. I personally visited Bandar Abbas in 1972 and it was a pit. That country is not worth one American or Iranian life as it is now. But the Iranian people need to remove the ruling cancer they have for a government.

      • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 9:43 pm #

        We killed 4 Million people in Vietnam and another Million in Iraq and another half a Million in Afghanistan, who are we protecting?

        That is not counting Syria and Libya, in hindsight it is easy to see we should of left all those countries alone.

        • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 10:35 pm #

          Easy answer.

          Us. Vietnam, Iraq for oil. Remember SEATO? Remember Hussein? Afghanistan, eliminate al Queda and the Taliban. Not oil, drugs!

          The US will kick ass if it is in our interests. If they fight back, look out for a population decrease. Khadahfi and Assad.

          It is both parties also. Sign of the Deep State.

          Sounds unfeeling, but it is a fact.

          • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 11:23 pm #

            You gotta be kidding me, we squandered Trillions of dollars, killed Millions of people and now the end game is near. Either we turn into a failed state or we destroy the world in a nuclear blaze.

            With our huge national debt and the loss of the petro dollar in the near future we are toast.

            From 2000 til now it has been a world class fuckup of historic proportions. And you have not seen anything yet!

          • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 11:25 pm #

            John, I hope you enjoyed the jousting as much as I did .

          • malthuss July 23, 2019 at 1:23 am #

            drugs..CIA..stands for….figure it out.

          • elysianfield July 23, 2019 at 1:36 pm #

            “You gotta be kidding me, we squandered Trillions of dollars,”

            Squandered? Perhaps, but the benefits accrued come from weapons and tactics being tested, as well as armed forces becoming battle hardened. Do not denigrate those factors….

          • Majella July 24, 2019 at 9:48 pm #

            EF: “Squandered? Perhaps, but the benefits accrued come from weapons and tactics being tested, as well as armed forces becoming battle hardened. Do not denigrate those factors….”

            The trillions were mostly spent at home, doled out as workfare to the huge armament corporations, and the vile parasitic hucksters like Halliburton ($200 a gallon for gasoline in Iraq) and private for-profit military contractors.

            As to the “battle-hardened armed forces”, you must be referring to the few that don’t suffer from some level of PTSD and actually WANT to go back & fight…can’t see a queue of them anywhere.

          • elysianfield July 25, 2019 at 12:06 am #

            True that perhaps hundreds of billions were wasted…but consider;

            The tuning up of logistics

            The pool of veterans, those with combat experience, material handling, troop movement, weapon deployment, etc. can function, PTSD notwithstanding…and if needed, will be ordered, not asked to return to the service.

            Billions squandered? No doubt. But the home fires still burn in the essential industries that keep the military moving.

            It has been a tremendous waste and boondoggle, but there are some, a few at least, benefits that accrue to our war fighting ability.

          • Majella July 25, 2019 at 6:43 pm #


            I see your logical thinking and get what you mean. However, you’re arguing for continuation of the same flawed and wasteful imperatives of the last 100 years.

            If those resources – even a portion of the trillions – had been put into growing green energy alternatives and the development of whole new industries not based on death & destruction, wouldn’t we all be better off now?

            I’m not saying ‘unilateral disarmament’ or anything like it, but at $770 billion this FY, the yawning maw of the MIC’s need is obscene.

  26. fineline July 22, 2019 at 5:49 pm #

    Call me crazy, but I would recommend the UniBomber Manifesto to any and all that want some mental clarity on our ever perplexing political landscape.
    Consider the times when it was written, like almost 50 years ago. He seem to criticize “leftists” early in the manifesto. Today, the word liberal is more popular. But in today’s culture,he would be considered an extremist and an extremist liberal at that. Extremist because he saw violent revolution as the best,if not the only solution.

    Paradoxically, he was describing the same type of leftist action exhibited by Castro. Contras and Shining Path guerillas in that era, and Al Qaeda and Al Shabob types today. So , do not confuse his criticisms of leftists of that era with tree hugging, save the planet, feed the poor, shelter the homeless liberals or leftists of today.

    Just read the manifesto and attempt to understand it for some mental clarity and insight. Not a word is wasted.

    • Exscotticus July 22, 2019 at 6:08 pm #

      I thought Manhunt: The Unabomber was very well acted and courageous, as it attempted to convey a variety of narratives—including Ted Kaczynski’s perspective. Can’t attest to the accuracy as I’m not a Unibomber boffin, but it sure felt truthy. Definitely worth a watch, regardless.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2019 at 6:18 pm #

      I noticed that. He writes in the manner of Euclid, going from premise to conclusion with great clarity and concision.

    • BornToKillPeace July 22, 2019 at 10:00 pm #

      ‘Remember in college checking out from the university library, “Technological Slavery: The Collected Writings of Theodore J. Kaczynski, a.k.a. “The Unabomber”, and wondering what NSA/ colored watchlist I had been added to.

      His perspectives on the bullshit that is increasingly over-complex and controlling technologies should be required reading.
      That said, sending mail bombs is gosh-darn crazy and sincerely not a topic I have any desire to discuss philosophically with any of you here.

      Y’all know they did MKUltra experiments on him while he was college (believe he might of volunteered not knowing what he was getting into) and I believe he states that is what broke him into becoming the Unabomber.

  27. deetrump July 22, 2019 at 5:51 pm #

    “Dems need and want a recession to improve their 2020 odds.” Ex

    No Dem has ever said that. Provide a source or it didn’t happen.

    • messianicdruid July 22, 2019 at 6:12 pm #

      “No Dem has ever said that. Provide a source or it didn’t happen.”

      Yes, they are paragons of speaking the truth.


      • deetrump July 22, 2019 at 6:34 pm #

        In this case, messianicdruid, justice was done: the Chick-fil-A employee wrote an apology letter for any misunderstanding, and the restaurant manager gave the lawmaker coupons for a week’s worth of free chicken biscuits.

        No justice, no peace. (see Puerto Rico)

        • BornToKillPeace July 22, 2019 at 10:19 pm #

          No Justice, No Peace!
          No Vegetables, No Ice Cream!
          No Money, No Honey!
          No Trust Fund, No Neo-Liberal Activists!

        • benr July 23, 2019 at 8:58 pm #

          You need to finish that line off to show your true self.
          No Trump!
          No wall!
          No America at all!
          You see this is what the progressive party aka the DEMOCRATS really believe!
          America was founded by racists people on the backs of the black race and does not deserve to exist.
          Which is why they hate the Constitution, the bill of rights and the people that believe in the rule of law.
          Progressives should just pack the fuck up and move somewhere that is more in line with their collective insanity and errant belief system.

          • Majella July 26, 2019 at 6:54 am #

            There’s an alternative, benr. Why don’t you pissing, moaning right-wing fucknuggets get up and leave? Somewhere that holds YOUR views, like Turkey, or Bulgaria, or Brazil? Then you can be as intoleratant and racist as you like and be balls-deep in like-minded bigots, pick up SSL & Janos on your way to the airport! Bye-bye!!!?

    • Tate July 22, 2019 at 6:34 pm #

      Times when common sense & elementary reason is sufficient.

      • Tate July 22, 2019 at 6:35 pm #


  28. Pucker July 22, 2019 at 6:43 pm #

    Speaking of Robert Mueller….

    Is it racist not to save a 400 lb Mexican unemployed Transgender single parent mom with a weird-looking kid damsel in distress shouting at you for help from the castle parapet?

    Did someone say “Moon Landing”? How come the Lunar Landing Module landed on the moon without making any disturbance to the Moon Surface? No crater; No blow marks; No Noth’n….

    I’m a Conspiracy Theorist. I think that rich and powerful people plan stuff…like how to become rich and powerful….

  29. Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2019 at 6:50 pm #

    New Girl Power movie coming out. Natalie Portman is going to play Thor. What an insult to our People and Tradition. And that’s why they’re doing it.

    Rolling Stone:

    The fourth Thor film, Thor: Love and Thunder, strikes November 5th, 2021 with director Taika Waititi, Chris Hemsworth, Tessa Thompson and Natalie Portman all reprising their roles. According to reports from the Comic-Con panel, the plot will find Portman’s Jane Foster becoming the Mighty Thor, as the character did in the comics. “I’ve always had hammer envy,” Portman said at the panel.

    • tucsonspur July 22, 2019 at 7:12 pm #

      She nailed it.

      • elysianfield July 23, 2019 at 1:44 pm #

        “She nailed it.”

        Excellent rejoinder.

        What say you of the lead in the next Bond Movie being filled by a black female (true story)?

        007…You only twerk twice….

        • tucsonspur July 23, 2019 at 4:56 pm #

          How can I stop this sacrilege?

          “A naked black arm smelling of Chanel #5 snaked around his neck.” Black inserted. Should change the perfume to….?

          Thunderbuns I say, Thunderbuns!

    • benr July 23, 2019 at 11:12 am #

      I have to say I 100% agree with your assessment of the new whore movie.
      That should have read thor but I liked it so I left it.

      I was watching some glass blowing show and the person that won the glass blowing won it for her and I use the term her loosely political commentary set to glass.
      Some of it was skill but it was all 100% to let the woman win. The man yanish was clearly in another league skill wise and they even show him on the front of the webpage.

      Along the same lines as the ridiculous tagline the future is female.

      Don’t get me wrong I love women some of my favorite people are women but seeing them dishonor men to honor women is troubling.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 8:14 pm #

        Bravo. Troubling for you, a mature man who can See. But for boys coming up, who haven’t experienced life? Catastrophic. Those who come thru will hate with a passion. Thus the Alt-Right. We must guide these young Heroes…..

        And that doesn’t mean telling them not to hate…..

  30. Pucker July 22, 2019 at 6:56 pm #

    Who do Mayor Pete and his husband, Chaz, think is “Hotter”: Malloy or Reed? Didn’t one of the Village People dress like a policeman?


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  31. tucsonspur July 22, 2019 at 7:01 pm #

    AOC is getting death threats:


    You wonder about the emotional substrate of these men. Do they feel emasculated by a strong female? Resent her power? Would they really like to throw a fuck into her and her unattainability? Fuck her before killing her? Tell me they wouldn’t.

    The deep pools of her eyes, passion pools of defiance, dangerous curves ahead.

    In their Depths, aren’t they really saying, “Knock her up, Knock her up, Knock her up!”

    Okay, I know, I know, they’re just red blooded, patriotic Americans who think only of saving the country.

    • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 7:58 pm #

      It might be a bit of a public relation problem for Trump if any of those four women get killed.

      I know most of the Trump supporters will be very pleased if that happens.

      Such is the times we live in.

      • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2019 at 8:28 pm #

        Does the President get any threats?

        Didn’t a Sanders supporter shoot up a few Republican congressmen at a softball game a few years ago.?


        • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 8:39 pm #

          Not from the squad.

          I guess he took the softball game a little too seriously.

          • elysianfield July 23, 2019 at 1:48 pm #

            “Not from the squad”

            The “squid squad”?

            As the blind man said when passing the fish market…”good morning, ladies”….

            My apologies…the above borrowed from a cartoon printed in an old National Lampoon magazine….

          • James Hansen July 23, 2019 at 5:09 pm #

            I will let the women here reply to you!

      • tucsonspur July 22, 2019 at 10:37 pm #

        The cop was just fired. How long will it be before Antifa kills somebody? The Left has been more inclined to use violence than the Right, and it will escalate over the next year into 2020.

        The civil restraint has held for the most part. As I’ve said before, the Democratic coup perpetraitors would already have been executed in other countries.

        It goes too easy for them here, just as it does for the illegal immigrants and Republican sell outs.

      • benr July 23, 2019 at 11:14 am #

        You must be on drugs or have you just revealed your own deluded and sick mindset.
        I don’t know anyone that wants any of the facist four to be killed much less hurt physically.
        Ridiculed and run out of office for being fools oh yes.

        • benr July 23, 2019 at 11:20 am #

          FASCIST that is.

        • James Hansen July 23, 2019 at 4:54 pm #

          Ben, you are not very bright, those women are getting death threats every day because of Trump.You shoot your mouth off but you are poorly informed and highly partisan to boot.

          By the way I am still waiting for an apology for the way you talked to me before I proved you wrong with my 9/11 pictures.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 8:16 pm #

            He refuses to look up the word Fascist so he comes off sounding dumb.

          • benr July 23, 2019 at 9:07 pm #

            You are delusional and even more partisan so who are you kidding?
            At least I understand the tripe you peddle as nonsense you appear so addle brained you believe the shit you sling.
            As far as apologies go piss off and eat the crap you peddle.
            How is that ol bean?

          • benr July 23, 2019 at 9:13 pm #


            Which one the new and improved version peddled by Google and changed or the ancient Webster unabridged?
            It might help if you understand language changes!

            You might actually review what is being peddled as the definition of fascism now.
            By the way the commie four does not sound near as good as the fascist four!

          • Majella July 24, 2019 at 9:52 pm #


            Classy rejoinder – up to you usual standard, I see.

          • benr July 25, 2019 at 10:22 am #


            Sink to the level of the opposition.

          • Majella July 25, 2019 at 6:46 pm #

            No, benr – you’re setting the standard, fella.

    • BornToKillPeace July 22, 2019 at 10:39 pm #

      “Do they feel emasculated by a strong female?”

      But is she? Or is she just another member of a brainwashed generational tribe playing into oligarchical power structures?

      I would love if we as a country could effectively share more evenly some of the (make-believe) wealth and real burdens of being a taxpaying and law-abiding citizen, but I can’t imagine going along with her proposed solutions as that money would only enrich the bureaucracy. None of her solutions under this governmental structuring would benefit the populace. We already saw this with the 08′ bailouts.

      • tucsonspur July 23, 2019 at 3:55 am #

        I think she can be, but she has that nebula of naivete about her. She’ll remain strong catering to the browns and blacks, so far applauding her strident extremism. At times she seems the wild eyed child, seeking and feeding off of adult attention.

        Many feel threatened by her radical fire, if not emasculated, and the thought of such political heat coming from such a nubile neophyte can be unsettling.

        Yes, her solutions are akin to what a child wanting to be liked might propose. Impractical but full of appeal.

    • James Hansen July 23, 2019 at 5:10 pm #

      Tell this to Ben.

  32. Tate July 22, 2019 at 7:48 pm #

    Rep. Hank Johnson (D, GA) has accused Republicans of mispronouncing Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s name in order to “besmirch” him.

    At a Judiciary Committee hearing on July 12, Johnson said that he has heard more and more Republicans calling the former special counsel “[Mew-ler],” instead of “[Muller].”

    Johnson then said it seemed like there was a “secret memo” instructing Republicans to say ‘[Mew-ler].’”

    Rep. Johnson has also been known to voice concern that the island of Guam might “tip over” if too many military personnel were to be stationed there.

  33. BuckP July 22, 2019 at 7:56 pm #

    As the Kabuki Theatre production of Russiagate nears the final anticlimatc scenes, both parties are beating their war drums in unison. Surprise! Surprise!

    Trump needs to toss those psycho swamp rats, who are better known as the warmongering, neocon, chickenhawks, out of the White House and cut a new deal with Iran.

    If war breaks out, many young, patriotic American service people will be killed and injured while doing the dirty work for the neofuedal, insatiable, blood-thirsty globalist sharks. In addition, many innocent Iranians will be killed.

    Trump has a chance to course-correct the nihilistic path we have been on. He knows how to wheel and deal, so get one done with Iran!
    God bless Tulsi Gabbard, a soldier and Iraq War veteran,who is the only Dem candidate to speak out aginst these globalist wars!

    • James Hansen July 22, 2019 at 8:30 pm #

      I was reading that the U.S. is incapable of changing course, we are going to keep smacking countries in the face until war breaks out or we are unable to because of a financial collapse.

      Trumps actions are pushing these countries to work at a feverish pace to dump the dollar and collapse our economy so we cannot wage war.

      • BuckP July 22, 2019 at 9:04 pm #

        You’re right!
        With our wonton use of illegal sanctions, which harm the targeted civilian populace the most by depriving them of medicine and food, the BRIIC’s and other nations, even Saudi Arabia are looking for an alternative reserve currency. According to Rob Kirby, this new world reserve currency will not be the currency of one nation, like now, but instead, will have a precious metal or two component, an agricultural component, a blockchain component and a couple of currencies.
        With Iran, and Venezuela to some extent, the worry should be that China and Russia will intercede on their behalf. Letting two countries, with the world’s largest oil reserves be destroyed by the US, like we did to iraq and libya, isn’t going to tolerated.

  34. deetrump July 22, 2019 at 7:56 pm #

    “We have serious missile capability too.” –brh

    Which are worthless because the commander in chief is a dog with all bark and no bite, telling North Korea about “fire and fury” then sending them love letters. Telling the immigrants about the ICE raids with a week of lead time so they can disappear and frustrate ICE. Telling Iran it “better be careful” then doing nothing as Iran seizes ship after ship in the Strait of Hormuz. What good does “missile capacity” do for people who have no fear of dying and call Trump’s bluff? In fact, they will get 72 virgins if Trump goes nuclear on Iran.

    Iran has no fear of our “missile capacity” and they know Trump is bluffing. They know Trump is a liar. Did Mexico pay to build a wall? Did prescription drug prices go down as promised? Was Obamacare repealed on “day one”? Has our infrastructure been rebuilt?

    When 50% of our citizens are living paycheck to paycheck and cannot absorb a $400 emergency expenditure, are we really better off now economically under Trump?

    I hope Trump and the Republicans try to run again on the economy and “border security”. People know they are not better off economically. People know asylum seekers spiked after Trump cut off aid to Central American countries and then did not get Mexico to pay for a wall. They know he lies every day and has no policy chops or legislation to speak of.

    The Blue Wave of 2018 will be the Blue Tsunami of 2020. The House, the Senate, and the President will be Democrats. Trump’s lying race-baiting has consequences. The Squad will show him the door.

    • deetrump July 22, 2019 at 8:00 pm #

      The Squad will show him the door and then the indictments will rain down upon citizen Trump.

      “Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice.” (Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.)

      • Pucker July 22, 2019 at 8:08 pm #

        “Let us realize the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards Farce.”


      • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2019 at 8:26 pm #

        Then what Little Jane, you start sucking presidential ass again?

        Until JHK kicks you out, like 10 times previously?


        • deetrump July 22, 2019 at 8:37 pm #

          Click click. Ka-ching! Ilhan Omar thanks you!

          Who is “Little Jane”? I searched and found no posters with that handle.

          • JohnAZ July 22, 2019 at 9:08 pm #

            Try Janet!

  35. Pucker July 22, 2019 at 9:37 pm #

    Soon after leaving Tenerife in the Canary Islands, Ferdinand Magellan discovered one of his crew sodomizing a cabin boy. Magellan ordered the sodomite sailor to be strangled to death. I assume that the gay bloke was strangled by a rope? How’d you like to have the Captain order you to step up and strangle some Geezer to death in front of the crew? Too freakie for me….

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    • Pucker July 22, 2019 at 9:56 pm #

      I recall reading that Captain Cook kept his own personal sheep in a specially designed pen in his cabin during his voyages of discovery for sexual relief. Was Captain Cook from Wales?

      • Pucker July 22, 2019 at 10:08 pm #

        I don’t mean to cast aspersions on the Great Captain Cook. In fact, if a heterosexual Genie in a bottle granted me 3 wishes, one of my wishes would be to serve as the First Officer under Captain Cook during one of his voyages to the South Pacific and in search of Antarctica. Of course, no Homo stuff….

      • Majella July 23, 2019 at 7:42 pm #

        He was from Yorkshire (where there are sheep) but “I recall reading” is hardly a worthy base on which to amount a accusation of such horror on a well-respected gentleman.

    • elysianfield July 23, 2019 at 1:53 pm #

      ” How’d you like to have the Captain order you to step up and strangle some Geezer to death in front of the crew? ”

      Horrible! Especially if the geezer was a close personal friend….

  36. FincaInTheMountains July 23, 2019 at 12:03 am #

    We were not defeated by the Vietnamese, but by our own political stupidity in this country.

    The US lost the war in Vietnam not because of nobility or anti-war protests, but because the Soviet air defense systems beat all American aircraft and there simply left nothing to fight with.

    • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 1:53 am #

      Prove it Ivan.

    • elysianfield July 23, 2019 at 2:02 pm #

      “The US lost the war in Vietnam not because of nobility or anti-war protests, but because the Soviet air defense systems beat all American aircraft and there simply left nothing to fight with”

      Komaraden Finc!

      Were we to believe that particular canard, we could easily believe also that the majority of aircraft lost during the war was the result of equipment failure when our cowardly pilots, laps full of steaming piss, allowed the effluent to overflow into the delicate electronics of that day, shorting vital flight components and causing most of the losses in aircraft through equipment malfunction….

      • elysianfield July 23, 2019 at 2:03 pm #


  37. Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 12:29 am #

    JS: Marianne Williamson leads “fellow White people” in a prayer of subjugation to Blacks.

    I am going to ask the White Americans in the room to please repeat after me:

    On behalf of myself, and on behalf of my country, to you and all African Americans, from the beginning of our nation’s history, in honor of your ancestors and on behalf of your children, please hear this from my heart…

    I apologize. Please forgive us.

    With this prayer, I acknowledge the depth of the evils that have been perpetrated against black people in America.

    From slavery, to lynchings, to white supremacist laws, to the denial of voting rights, to all the ways both large and small — all of them evil, all of them wrong.

    For all the oppression and all the injustice, I apologize. Please forgive us.

    For the denial of any civil rights, for inequalities in criminal justice, to any instances of police brutality, to the denial of opportunity, for economic injustice, for any ways that a racial element has played in to the perpetration of injustice…

    I apologize. Please forgive us.

    With this prayer I acknowledge the beauty and the genius of your culture, the power and the genius of those who came before you, the power and the genius of your children and your descendants, and with this prayer we pray: May your children, may your men be blessed and protected, may your men be blessed and protected, may your men be blessed and protected, may all your men and all your women and all your children be surrounded by angels at this time and, Dear God, may a great healing occur, we place in your hands the relationship between black and white Americans, may it be lifted high above and beyond the walls that would divide us, may our hearts be awakened to the truth of our oneness, and racism and prejudice be no more. Dear God please come upon us and heal our wounded hearts. But to you, my Afro-American fellow citizen, please accept my apology this night. It is for you and your grand-parents, and their grand-parents before them, and their grand-parent before them…

    Andrew Anglin: Here we have an authentic picture, in microcosm, of the future the Jews have mapped out for White America. The City on a Hill will become a Hovel in a Ditch, rolling in White Guilt forever.

    JS: Beauty and genius of their culture? Where? Of their children? Live not by lies, Marianne. Relationship between black and white Americans? You mean this kind of thing?

    • Epicur July 23, 2019 at 12:58 am #

      People who claim to apologize for the sins of their nation never are. They are accusing others within their society, their political opponents, for present advantage.

    • malthuss July 23, 2019 at 1:21 am #

      Jewish privilege. She is tribe.

      In the 1990s a neighbor took me to her talk.
      I found her to be a bore.

      • malthuss July 23, 2019 at 1:27 am #

        My neighbor is like her.

        • elysianfield July 23, 2019 at 2:05 pm #

          …get new neighbors….

      • EvelynV July 23, 2019 at 2:29 am #

        We can be sure that anyone who fucks away as much of his life as you do here spewing your worthless opinions to the same old tattered audience day after day week after week knows all about boring.

        • malthuss July 23, 2019 at 6:08 pm #


          ‘do not let yr critics stop you, do less than ignore them’.
          The founder of MGM.

        • benr July 23, 2019 at 9:18 pm #

          My goodness it’s like you posted your nasty comments while looking in the mirror.
          Speaking of boring sheesh.
          Same old greasy comments from the old hag.

    • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 2:07 am #

      “Relationship between black and white Americans? You mean this kind of thing?”

      Well how perceptive of you! And isn’t it strange how an “expert” in all things love hasn’t figured out that a one-sided relationship isn’t healthy? Or is she intentionally forgetting that pesky little detail? Needless to say her very uncute prayer is actually filled with undeserved accusation against many White Americans. It doesn’t sound like love is winning but stirring up grievances and animosity is.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 5:51 am #

        Many things must be ignored in life. Talking about things often makes them worse or “real” – tearing the scab of forgetfulness off. We’re in an endless shakedown that will only end when White America is dead.

  38. malthuss July 23, 2019 at 1:19 am #

    I urge everyone to click on the link, read it, then go to the page describing Nancy Navarro, the Montgomery County Council president (salary of over $150,000) who in the Patch.com piece sounds all too happy to destroy an orchestra in the name of “equity” and “sustainability”:


    Here’s the Montgomery County Council members who denied the orchestra $150,000 to keep it going:


    This is related to their duties as local Robin Hoods under a direct county grant program.

    The County Council’s responsibilities are specified by the County Charter and state law. Some of the Council’s principal responsibilities are:

    –Appropriates money to fund the capital and operating budgets and sets the local property tax rate and other local taxes.
    –Approves all land use plans including the General Plan, area master plans, and sector plans prepared by the Planning Board.
    –Acts on zoning changes.
    –Sets the tax rates required to fund the County budgets.

    So they tax.

    And they spend.

    Here’s a list of the grants covered by the $14.5m they are spending in 2020 via direct county grants:

    Now let’s take a look at her “equity” grants that excluded the Philharmonic:

    –$100,000 to the Jewish Day School of Greater Washington Inc.,
    –$195,000 to the Greater Washington Jewish Coalition (dating abuse programs and “clinical and legal services” [therapists and lawyers] re: abuse),
    –another quarter million for other Jewish/Hebrew programs,
    –millions for Latino programs,
    –hundreds of thousands for Muslim and Asian programs,
    –about $600,000 to the Alinskyite Catholic Charities that provide services (including (((lawyers))) ) for illegals,
    –hundreds and hundreds of thousands in food aid,
    –hundreds of thousands for “enhancing access to health services,”
    –astonishing amounts to reward homelessness…or anyway careers in wrangling the homeless.

    For that is what we’re seeing here, Loren. Dolt-wrangling produces all sorts of jobs for social work majors, social studies, studies studies majors, and the like.

    Money is literally taken from the functional and productive to reward and institutionalize victimhood and racial grievance…

    …of the sort the Nancy Navarros of the world are well-placed to champion and extend. In the name of “progressivism.” But it’s really make-work for them. Affirmative action careers in the rawest sense.

    She hit the big time, being one of those elected to use their publicly elected positions, and salaries of $139,000 per year (plus, we guess, benefits), to literally destroy white culture using white families tax dollars (Montco is about 62% white)…and virtue-preen as they do so.

    It apparently works, for looking at Nancy Navarro–who as the president of the council makes over $155,000 a year (plus, we guess, benefits)–it’s hard to imagine what kind of job she could have gotten with a bachelor’s degree in psychology,
    one of the lowest IQ/lowest SAT majors, without that racial grievance schtik and Obama’s leftist Chicago and DC mafia pushing her forward.

    Remember: “charity”–both public and private–
    is a major driver of the leftist/prog/bolsh agenda.
    Without seizing your, my, and everyone’s wages, and literally taking opportunities away from our children and forcing us to support other men’s offspring, this political agenda would go nowhere. And we aren’t just cucked by the left, but as well by the GOPe.

    • malthuss July 23, 2019 at 1:26 am #


      Nancy has received numerous awards and recognitions, including: the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce of Montgomery County’s Leadership Award; the Maryland State Department of Education’s Women Who Dare Leadership Award; the Hispanic Democratic Club of Montgomery County’s Poder con Ganas Award; the U.S. Hispanic Youth Entrepreneur Education’s Hispanic Hero Award; the Montgomery County Business and Professional Women Association’s Women of Achievement 2007 Award; the Community Teachers Institute’s Heart of the Community Award; the 2009 and 2013 Maryland’s Top 100 Women Award; and the Mid-Atlantic Hispanic Chamber of Commerce’s 2010 Elected Local Government Official of the Year Award.

      Nancy graduated with a bachelor’s degree in Psychology from the University of Missouri (Columbia). She was born in Caracas, Venezuela and has lived in Montgomery County for more than two decades with her husband, Reginald, and two daughters.

      • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 2:15 am #

        Thank you. There are thousands upon thousands of foot soldiers like her that have burrowed their way into every nook and cranny of government and NGO. To make a really big change they would all have to be uprooted and at the same time.

    • BackRowHeckler July 23, 2019 at 5:14 am #

      IOW, Montgomery County is a sh#thole anybody with any means will be moving out of asap, even the govt parasites complicit in bringing it down. Sounds familiar, doesn’t it?


  39. deetrump July 23, 2019 at 1:40 am #

    Government works. Trump, the Democrats, and the Republicans have all collaborated to come to an agreement good until January 2021.

    “I am pleased to announce that a deal has been struck with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy — on a two-year Budget and Debt Ceiling, with no poison pills.” –Donald John Trump

    Thank you, Mr. Trump, for your leadership to make government work.

  40. deetrump July 23, 2019 at 1:41 am #

    Government works. Trump, the Democrats, and the Republicans have all collaborated to come to an agreement good until January 2021.

    “I am pleased to announce that a deal has been struck with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy — on a two-year Budget and Debt Ceiling, with no poison pills.” –Donald John Trump

    Thank you, Mr. Trump, for your leadership to make government work. Now you just need to sign it, Mr. President.

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    • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 2:24 am #

      Hmmm seems like only swamp creatures and Deep State termites celebrate when Washington “comes into agreement” or “makes a deal”. Why would you want to be associated with that? Oh wait! You are way too easy to see through Janet. Your advocacy for illegal aliens and foreign interests is directly funded by taxpayer dollars. The life blood of the institutional Left. How much is your pet project going to get?

  41. KesaAnna July 23, 2019 at 2:30 am #

    ” Or put a different way – what is the difference between belief and “accepting consensus”? ”


    That MIGHT be problematical for the religious , be the religious Christian , Jew , Moslem , Hindu , etc .

    But is certainly a problem in what she is trying to put over on you.

    “”Yours is not a faith , but the lack of one , remember ? ”

    Yes, that’s true and uncontroversial. ”

    Actually there is a great big fly in the oinment.

    ” Why would I forget? A-theist. And a-gnostic. A-theist as in no positive belief in a deity. Not a belief in there not being one, but a lack of belief that there is one. So an agnostic (which merely means someone who doesn’t accept ‘truths’ without evidence) may also be an a-theist. ”

    Language is an imperfect instrument , indeed , in many cases downright clunky.

    And , ” faith ” and ” belief ” , relative to religion , are prominent examples.

    They are used , yes , even by yours truly , relative to the subject , but for lack of alternatives , even though they are gross misnomers in this context.

    In my view , ” faith ” and ” belief ” have scarce anything to do with religion .

    Religion is an attempt to determine whether justice , right and wrong , have any substantive meaning , or are , in fact , content – less words like , ” dragon ” , ” unicorn ” , or “Fairey”.

    So , less about like or dislike , or hopes or fears , but more like dull equations.

    ” I am the opposite of a whore, you ignorant witch. ”

    Like as with Janos , I have to give you points for dogged persistence in trying to come to a self – flattering conclusion on your part where you win and I lose.

    My conclusion may indeed be pretty ugly , but , in fact , rather than losing , YOU , most likely , win.

    ( But then , so might I , too. I guess that sucks huh ? )

    I’m an ignorant witch ?

    lol !

    No , that’s too gentle !

    — But then you know I have never represented it other than you , yourself , just represented it , though you again turn around in the next breathe and make out like I didn’t say so myself , or something ?

    The Devil is in the somehow – not – a -whore , relative to the whore.

    Again , like I said , Like Janos , you are doggedly persistent in trying to come to a self-flattering conclusion where you win and I lose.

    My religious conclusion is that , in the end , Adolf Hitler , Jack The Ripper , AND YOU , may wind up off the hook .

    Hmmm , yes , I’m a hateful person , but not quite in the way your , ” absence of a faith ” would have it or paint it.

    As for your , err , “lack of belief ” , or theological neutrality ( ? )

    ” So you can take your arrogant, ignorant presumptuous witchiness, Kesa dear, and stick it where the sun don’t shine, along with your other comments, about which I don’t give a flying f*ck. ”

    On the contrary ! Hypothetically , it might all add up to a great big fuck.

    If living in the moment , or for today , counts for anything that is . So far , I’ve waited 50+ years for one of your sort to explain how it could add up to anything other than the moment , or today.

    — A moment , a today , that might very well be all about hateful witches.

    At the very least , it strikes me as exceedingly curious that presumably you have an interest in justice , but never have any but the present moment to offer by way of justice , though that moment might just as well belong to hateful witches like me.

    And fear or despise the only alternative I have ever encountered — Again , you haven’t offered anything else — to that ; an afterlife.

    that is ; An afterlife where my fancies might indeed add up not to a flying fuck.

    Which is presumably what you would prefer ?

    But , no , apparently .

    My suspicion is that , no , you do NOT wish there was a God.

    Far more appalling to your mind than the prospect that I might win , and so get to fuck you over and eat your children , is the idea that it might be out of BOTH of our hands .

    ( but especially as far as you care : out of YOUR hands . Even though it does mean I don’t get a vote either. )

    Again in relation to all that living in the moment , or for today buiseness ,

    And that EVIDENCE thing you always trot out ( but usually not really )

    The findings of neurology , psychology , and the observations of ditch -diggers and waitresses to boot , is —

    The human mind doesn’t work that way anyway , except exceedingly fleetingly , or when heavily stoned , totally exhausted , or in a coma .

    Maybe cows or cockroaches think , and live , in the moment ?

    But then we don’t really know how , or what , cockroaches and cows think , and consequently how that might impact their lives.

    We already have a time machine of sorts , and it is the human mind. It incessantly reflects on the past , and incessantly anticipates the future , and typically within seconds of each other , or even at the same time.

    Anyway , in brief , “live in the moment” makes for a pleasant – sounding slogan , and that’s about it.

    It it no way addresses , or gets around , the thorny proposition of justice , the idea of right , and the idea of wrong.

    It’s a fine – sounding way of kicking the can down the road.

    Though , ironically , to proceed down that road you would rather not it seems.

    I got most of the above observations , actually , from atheists , but who likewise would prefer not to dwell on the implications of their own evidences and assertions , and so likewise kick the can down the road .

    “Well , the mind doesn’t even work that way. But , well , never mind ….. ”

    But then we have been over all of this before , and it isn’t rocket science.


    As I recall , SSF wasn’t here the first five times ( ? ) I went over this.

    So here we are.

    • K-Dog July 23, 2019 at 4:01 am #

      Someday the sun goes red giant and all will be lost. The earth vaporizes to gas and without form or void we become the liquid flesh of a dying star. Like tears in rain we become what never was.

      • BackRowHeckler July 23, 2019 at 4:45 am #

        Kdog you worry too much, ‘specially about the weather.


        Is there ever a sunny day in Seattle?


    • Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 6:04 am #

      On Sunday night, Kesa revealed that she had followed many trades in her life, including call girl. Alba in contrast is just white bread! Imagine a crisp whole wheat toast of a call girl like this showing up at your door.
      You let her in and she starts calling your Darwin. You question her and she says, I’m Darwin too for the next hour. You get your money’s worth I imagine.

      Nature is infinitely perverse for the Calvinists. And Jansenism was/is the Catholic version of this. Since it’s all infinitely bad, it doesn’t really matter what you do – you can’t make it worse. So? So enjoy and then confess! As Rasputin said, Sin greatly that you might be saved. You have to get that guilt goin’. Fanatics of moderation like Alba – who think very highly of their own virtue – can never be saved unless and until they fall.

      Needless to say, his was a species of Gnosticism. An ancient tendency that the Fathers recorded. Others were the opposite, utterly ascetical and world denying in the metaphysical sense. Both missed the mark – the definition of sin. Other believed the same metaphysic and were very loose. Since it was unreal, nothing that was done mattered. Get it? Mattered. Christ mattered or took on matter – redeeming it. Thus it matters.

      • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 7:09 am #

        “On Sunday night, Kesa revealed that she had followed many trades in her life, including call girl.”

        She didn’t reveal it on Sunday night, except to those who pay no attention.

        But it’s interesting how much you despise ‘white bread’ when you’re never done telling people that’s how you think women should behave.

        Nothing whatever new in your hypocrisy.

        Serving two masters, still. And always.

        • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 8:12 am #

          And I just re-read that post. The tripe you people talk is unbelievable.

          What will matter when it all falls apart is how you deal with it. Will you keep your decency or fight your fellow humans for the last scraps, while you pick up white babies and discard black ones, as in your demented fantasies?

          Me? I hope to sit it out quietly and let others fight for the scraps, and hope I go quickly. I wish I had no children. If I’d known when I had them what I know now, I wouldn’t have had them. Kesa is lucky. Hope of a better future AND no children or grandchildren to break her heart over. Lucky woman. I never wanted grandchildren for that reason, not that I’d ever have let my children know that or ever would. If I’d been born 80 years earlier it would have been a different matter.

          Once you’ve got them it can only break your heart, knowing what’s coming. So Kesa won there too. I hope it helps.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 1:31 pm #

          Not true. I know it gets a bit confusing because I was partly engaged in revealing Kesa’s mind as I understand it. She was boasting of her vast experience. Everything one does leaves a mark. Cops can see “prison” just looking at a guy. I for one don’t want a woman who is too “marked” up. Certainly not an ex-call girl.Your sheltered life (compared to hers) would be a plus in my book if you were a potential mate. And closer to my idea life plan for women. But in terms of being an interesting conversationalist – obviously someone like Kesa would be in general. Hypocrisy? Not just different standards for different purposes.

          Of course one would want a wife who was fairly unmarked but still a good conversationalist. Some people have interesting or attractive personalities even if unmarked. That would be the ideal for a girlfriend or wife.

          I agree she has a seething contempt for almost everyone. That’s not attractive at all. Your path is superior in that respect. But of course you people have won, at least for the moment. If you were the down and outer, on the losing side, maybe you would be the hater. And if Kesa’s side had triumphed, maybe she would be the lover. As for me, I’m on no one’s side because no one is on mine (Treebeard). I’m a bit more on hers in some ways and a bit more on yours in others. A Philosopher can’t expect to be on “sides” since he sees All sides simultaneously. It’s lonely a the Top, but I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.

          • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 2:24 pm #

            I don’t wish or need you to be on ‘my side’ for anything. Nor do I need to be patronised by some dipstick who’s afraid of a potential mate having as much sexual experience as himself (although, according to the rules of your book, neither of you should have any). I wouldn’t want a man who’d been all round the houses either, but that’s just my personality and has no pretence to universality.

            As for your preference for a woman who’s been round the block for ‘conversation’, do you really think you’re being remotely original?

            You don’t think it’s always been the case that the bloke with the nice wife who plays by the rules and stays at home with the children because he doesn’t want her to work….

            ….then goes and has affairs with the women at work if he’s not meeting prostitutes in his lunch hour?

            Nothing new under the sun.

          • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 2:27 pm #

            “It’s lonely a the Top, but I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else.”

            Fantasists can at least raise a titter of amusement sometimes at their delusions.

          • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 2:29 pm #


            There are lots of decent, honest ones.

      • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 7:47 am #

        “Fanatics of moderation like Alba – who think very highly of their own virtue – can never be saved unless and until they fall.”

        Here’s something that should make you happy, Janos. I have no virtue to speak of. And what I have is easy to have, as with most of us. But everyone would assume that, if they have half a brain.

        But there is no difference whatever in Christian terms between being a paid whore and having sex before being married or without being married. None at all. Indeed there is far less to be criticised for if you are coerced into being a whore by poverty, which would offer plenty of justification in most people’s eyes. (You aren’t judged at all if you marry money, of course!)

        In the view of one of those ‘real’ Christians, like the Christian ‘friend’ who dumped me like a hot potato because I mentioned I didn’t go to church any more. And remarried as well! Definitely deserving of eternal torture for that one. And I can’t undo it without divorcing him too, even if Johnny Cash got a free pass and was able to hold on to wife no. 2 without criticism. I thought about such things a lot as a divorced Christian. Look at the mental hoops CS Lewis jumped through, to marry his divorced woman.

        So I’ve ‘fallen’ too, in Christian terms. I haven’t killed anyone but hell is just as hot for the divorcee as for the genocidal killer, I assume. I’ve divorced the person (atheist, long before I was) I married in a church. I didn’t want to – I wanted a civil marriage because he wasn’t a ‘believer’, but my parents refused to come to a civil wedding, so I let my self be browbeaten into doing what everyone else wanted. Not for the last time.

        And after divorcing him, I took up with someone else, albeit many years later, whom I eventually married, while husband number one is still of this world. My mother thought I should never have anything to do with any man ever again – that was her ‘cosmology’, and quite Catholic for a protestant – although she was delighted to see the back of Husband no. 1 because she couldn’t stand him or the way she saw him behave towards me. She used to go home from my house on the bus crying, she said. Not that she told me that until I’d left him. She was sorry when I told her I stayed all those extra years for her, so that she wouldn’t be distraught by having a divorced daughter.

        So, to recap, someone who remarries while their first husband is still alive (and vice versa for men) is no different in Christian terms from someone who does it for money. They’re still ‘doing it’ against the prescriptions of the Christian church. Just like most of the ‘Christians’ on this site will have done just by shagging their future wife/husband before the ring was on the finger.

        So I’ve fallen, Janos, in your terms. That should make you happy. In my terms I’ve neither fallen nor attained any particular virtue. I just muddle along trying not to do any harm, like most people. And thinking out loud, like everyone else on a blog site.

        The fact that I consider the rest of your worldview a projection of human ethics, in both their simplicity and their occasional over-simplicity or indeed confusion, is something I can’t help you with. But apparently it makes you a child molester and a condescending bitch if you say it out loud. Even to thinking adults. Oh, dear.

        Grownups on a website seemingly need to be protected from the horrors of free thinking by hate-worthy monsters.

        • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 8:24 am #

          And it’s because I have no particular virtue (and a whole lot of standard human cowardice) that I look with awe on those simple souls in Eyam in 1665.

          Greater love hath no illiterate peasant, than to lay down his life for the families in the next village.

          Take a bow, peasants of Eyam. You had no audience at the time or for centuries later. And some would wish you had none now, because it offends them.

          I wonder how many will emulate you, in the Long Emergency.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 1:35 pm #

          Yes, you have made me happy. I smile showing my fangs just for you. Come not between the Kraken and his pray. The Kingdom suffereth itself to be taken by storm. And the violent bear it away. You need to read Flannery O’Connor if you would understand Kesa, how she sees you, etc. You will understand my mind better too. Part of my heart dwells there forever. Or would you remain a muggle? A darwin? A spiritual mud blud?

          • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 2:41 pm #

            “if you would understand Kesa, how she sees you, etc. ”

            Gimme a break. I have an actual life, modest as it is. And there’s more of it behind me than in front – a lot less than Kesa has – so I shouldn’t even be wasting time on here, let alone worrying about the thought processes of someone like that in relation to me.

            I wish her daily circumstances would improve. If she were here instead of there, they would. But she would hate it here, so there we are.

          • GreenAlba July 25, 2019 at 12:32 pm #

            And even when I was a ‘believer’ I had no difficulty reconciling that with Darwin’s theories. I was never an Adam-and-Eve-ist.

            Modern Christians have had to take on board certain findings, just as they had to accept that the sun didn’t revolve round the earth and that the earth wasn’t flat. There’s a bit of a struggle and then they accept that anachronistic cosmologies were just doing the best they could with what little knowledge they had.

            It’s all fine as poetry and metaphor.

      • messianicdruid July 23, 2019 at 12:51 pm #

        “Both missed the mark – the definition of sin.”

        “sin is the transgression of the Law.” 1 John 3:4

        I have never heard any preacher / teacher in churchianity use this verse in the a sermon or article.

    • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 7:03 am #

      Kesa dear. You win. Happy? I don’t care. I have no need to win against you. I don’t share your hate but I think you are an arrogant witch just the same, specifically for telling me about my friendships, of which you know no more than you do about anything else in my life.

      But I’ll say it again, sweetie. I don’t care. I don’t care about your ‘suspicions’, your insults, the fact that you were a whore, your aspirations for ‘heaven’, what you think of protestants, atheists, agnostics, people less clever than yourself (that would include me).

      I do wish you had more resources. No-one should have to live like that. But as with most things there’s nothing I can do about it. I won’t say ‘I’m sorry’ as regards to that because you will just say I’m not.

      So I’m not prepared to care about that either. I do feel sorry for you, though, that hating me is so important to you. It really shouldn’t be. I’m nobody. Really, nobody.

      If I say again ‘you’ve won’, maybe that will help. but I doubt it.

      • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 8:00 am #

        And do keep playing to the gallery and inviting them to share your disdain for me, if it helps. It’s not very Christian, though, is it?

      • messianicdruid July 23, 2019 at 12:55 pm #

        Indifference is worse than hatred.

        • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 2:51 pm #

          It is if it’s indifference to suffering. It isn’t if it’s indifference to insults.

    • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 8:40 am #

      “Far more appalling to your mind than the prospect that I might win , and so get to fuck you over and eat your children , is the idea that it might be out of BOTH of our hands .”

      And I hope you get all the pleasure you look for from fucking me over and eating my children. Whosoever’s hands it might be in.

      I wish you much enjoyment of it. As long as they’re dead first.

      And if your God gets pleasure from it too, then what can I say?

      • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 10:27 am #

        Alba, I think maybe you are letting all of this get to you too much. Number one please don’t let the judgements of those who do not know you personally get to you so much. You know who you are and you have no reason to feel the need to justify yourself and your personal life ultimately to any of us. That is my opinion at least. From what I see, Kesa is reacting to your comments here relevant to religion and on that topic we all have varying beliefs and viewpoints and obviously there have been many disagreements. At the end of the day we all go back to the conclusions we have individually arrived at in our lives. For me that is that there is a God and for you it is that there is no God. we have argued back and forth with one another and neither one has ultimately changed their position. We also have different ways of communicating. It doesn’t necessarily mean that there is animosity or that someone is wishing bad things for the other person. Some people have an abrupt way of communicating or a shocking way of communicating. But it doesn’t necessarily mean that when someone says “Why the fuck are you talking to me?” or going on about how women, for example, come across as horrible human beings that you will be unable to communicate with them. In fact in my own personal experience strong relationships are typically built off the back of bad first impressions/experiences. I know, weird right? What can I say? Human psychology and behavior is quite interesting and bizarre. But I digress. I don’t really believe that anyone is wishing harm on you. I think you are taking some of this a bit too literally. As far as I know none of us know you beyond what you post here so what real impact can anyone’s insults or perceived insults have ultimately?

        • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 11:24 am #

          “Alba, I think maybe you are letting all of this get to you too much.”

          What gets to me is people telling me what I think, when it’s nothing to do with what I think. Or what I do, when it’s nothing to do with what I do. That much more than being called a rattlesnake, bitch, fraud, whore, child molester, shitty friend and gawd knows what else by a maniac.

          • benr July 23, 2019 at 9:21 pm #

            While I don’t agree with much of what you post at least you are fair and consistent.

          • GreenAlba July 24, 2019 at 5:32 am #

            Thank you, benr. And when I agree with you, which I sometimes do, I let you know that I do.

        • malthuss July 23, 2019 at 12:15 pm #

          GA had 6 posts in a row, with no responses by others.

          • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 12:28 pm #

            That’s only because I’m on British Summer Time, Malthuss, ol’ chap. The insulters were still abed.

            Don’t fret.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 1:20 pm #

            No moderation when it comes to defending her own virtue it seems. It’s not like I’m all on Kesa’s side either. Her Jansenism (Catholic type Calvinism) can lead to a kind of gnosticism – or to becoming a Janissary – a Crusader. Alba already is – for her team, the Secular Religion of Political Correctness, Egalitarianism, and Cultural Marxism.

            But if I had to choose, I give the spiritual palm to Kesa. As far as argumentation, Alba holds her own as usual. A draw. In terms of debate (different than argumentation – but neither of them gets the difference), I can’t judge because neither of them plays by the rules – plus their premises are vastly different. You can’t really “play” unless you’re playing the same game.

          • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 2:50 pm #

            “Alba already is – for her team, the Secular Religion of Political Correctness, Egalitarianism, and Cultural Marxism.”

            You are so full of shit your boots squeak.

            Give Kesa the gold cup. the palme d’or and everything else as well. I don’t need it, thanks.

            I am sans vertu. A mere plodder. And so I shall expire.

            Primum non nocere.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 2:47 pm #

          Yes, the only reason that Angels can fly is because they take themselves lightly.

          • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 2:52 pm #

            The fairies at the bottom of my garden can fly and they take themselves very seriously. And so should you.

          • benr July 23, 2019 at 9:23 pm #



    • Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 1:55 pm #

      Yes, she wants to the Kingdom of Heaven without God – like they all do. The Religion of Man. Sick, Six, Six.

      • elysianfield July 23, 2019 at 2:33 pm #

        And forget not the corollary;

        …Everybody want Heaven…Nobody want Die!

        • Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 2:48 pm #

          And no woman no Cry

      • GreenAlba July 24, 2019 at 6:47 am #

        “Yes, she wants to the Kingdom of Heaven without God – like they all do. The Religion of Man. Sick, Six, Six.”

        It is your religion of man that makes you value your white tribe above all else. If your religion was of God you’d be happier to see all those white souls safe with their maker, whenever or however that might happen, than to see that Kingdom of Whiteness established here on earth.

        Two masters. Physician, heal thyself.

        “We have built a house that is not for Time’s throwing.
        We have gained a peace unshaken by pain for ever.
        War knows no power. Safe shall be my going,
        Secretly armed against all death’s endeavour;
        Safe though all safety’s lost; safe where men fall;
        And if these poor limbs die, safest of all.”

  42. BuckP July 23, 2019 at 2:51 am #

    The following snippet is excerpted from an article entitled “Ruler of the World” dated July 22, 2019, written by Jacob G. Hornberger on The Future of Freedom website.

    “In his Fourth of July, 1821, address to Congress, entitled “In Search of Monsters to Destroy,” U.S. Secretary of State John Quincy Adams accurately predicted what would happen if the U.S. government were ever to abandon its founding principle of non-interventionism in favor of a worldwide interventionist empire:

    ‘The fundamental maxims of her policy would insensibly change from liberty to force. The frontlet upon her brows would no longer beam with the ineffable splendor of freedom and independence; but in its stead would soon be substituted an imperial diadem, flashing in false and tarnished lustre the murky radiance of dominion and power. She might become the dictatress of the world’.”

    The link to the full article is below:

    Man, our American statesmen and leaders from the past like John Quincy Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln, et al were so eloquent and brilliant in their writing and foresight. I can’t imagine any politico today writing a paragraph like the one by Jon Quicy above!

    A onetime sovereign republic created and handed down by our brilliant founders and saved from potential ruin by the blood of those that sacrificed their all is now a captive state that does the dirty work for the globalists’ empire using the world’s reserve currency, the fiat dollar, as a weapon.

    We, Americans, were sold out by the treasonous traitors in our government, military, institutions and businesses all for a little bit of money.

    As Brainerd Police Chief Marge Gunderson says to the murderous perp at the end of the movie Fargo: ” …and for what, for a little bit of money. There’s more to life than a little money, you know. ..don’t you know that….and here you are and it’s a beautiful day.”


    • K-Dog July 23, 2019 at 3:45 am #

      It will be acted o’er, fellow citizens, but it can never be repeated. It stands, and must forever stand alone, a beacon on the summit of the mountain, to which all the inhabitants of the earth may turn their eyes for a genial and saving light, till time shall be lost in eternity, and this globe itself dissolve, nor leave a wreck behind. It stands forever, a light of admonition to the rulers of men; a light of salvation and redemption to the oppressed.

      Was changed to keep the Mexicans in the kitchen:

      In my mind it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, windswept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace; a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity. And if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here.

      And remembering the cookie lady in the Matrix:

      Sorry kid, you’re not the one.

      • K-Dog July 23, 2019 at 3:50 am #

        ‘Not the one’ is a hint for you to play: Guess The Author

        of that second quote.

        Hardly a fair comparison since (second hint) the rich just pay for things and call it their own. This one had a speechwriter, certainly in the last days.

    • tucsonspur July 23, 2019 at 4:03 am #

      “Let Hercules himself do what he may, the cat will mew and dog will have his day.”

    • James Hansen July 23, 2019 at 10:47 am #

      Nobody exemplifies the values of Republicans better than Linda Tripp, they should build 60 foot tall statues of her to be displayed in front of the White House.

      • James Hansen July 23, 2019 at 12:37 pm #

        Before anybody gets bent out of shape, I call politicians Republicans and citizens Conservatives.

        • benr July 23, 2019 at 9:24 pm #

          Well at least you got something right for once!

  43. Pucker July 23, 2019 at 4:42 am #

    Post-Collapse Question:

    What do you do when the hardtack becomes contaminated with the urine and feces of rodents?

    • BackRowHeckler July 23, 2019 at 5:30 am #

      Captains Cooke and Magellan, both killed on a beach in the Pacific battling natives with spears (seceral centuries apart, its true)

      Hust a coincidence, Pucker?


      • malthuss July 23, 2019 at 10:56 am #


        • BackRowHeckler July 23, 2019 at 2:36 pm #

          Cut me some slack Malth

          I just did a shot of Wild Turkey Geez

          • James Hansen July 23, 2019 at 5:24 pm #

            Can I use that excuse with Q?

    • James Hansen July 23, 2019 at 9:04 am #

      That one is easy, you start eating the rodents.

    • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 10:31 am #

      Gross! Maybe Shawn can help you.


  44. BackRowHeckler July 23, 2019 at 5:27 am #

    Not naming any names, but there it is, upstream.

    I know its early, but it looks like a shot of Wild Turkey for breakfast.

    Just have to choke it down, Who’s gonna join me?


    • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 10:35 am #

      I bet you are a funny drunk lol :-). I’m not sure about Wild Turkey but I will take a shot of Crown Royal if you have some. It’s already been a tough week and its just Tuesday!

      • benr July 23, 2019 at 11:16 am #

        I just discovered crown royal vanilla flavor with seltzer on ice.

        • James Hansen July 23, 2019 at 11:49 am #

          I hope it does not have high fructose corn syphilis in it.

          • benr July 23, 2019 at 9:26 pm #

            Well that explains you tertiary syphilis!

        • SoftStarLight July 24, 2019 at 2:19 am #

          That sounds awesome! I’m gonna have to try that!

      • Tate July 23, 2019 at 11:41 am #

        Both of them are detestable concoctions.

        As for me, give me Black Bush, or give me Death!

        • SoftStarLight July 24, 2019 at 2:24 am #

          Lol yes indeed. I don’t know if I have ever tried it before. Is that an Irish whiskey?

          • Tate July 24, 2019 at 12:06 pm #

            Bushmill’s black label.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 2:10 pm #

        His good old boy middle class manner, pocket protector, flannel shirts, etc absolutely terrify the Communists. This guy is a New England version of Mike Pence. They can’t stand that he’s allowed to own guns!

  45. FincaInTheMountains July 23, 2019 at 7:32 am #

    The US lost the war in Vietnam not because of nobility or anti-war protests, but because the Soviet air defense systems beat all American aircraft and there simply left nothing to fight with. == Finca

    Prove it Ivan. == SSL


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    • FincaInTheMountains July 23, 2019 at 7:40 am #

      Bang, bang, Russian ace Ivan shot me down


      • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 10:45 am #

        LOL – you dirty dog. I’ll remember this and will get you when you least expect it ;-).

    • Walter B July 23, 2019 at 10:15 am #

      I think it is grossly unfair to say that America “lost” the war in Vietnam because what really happened was that America finally realized that we were fighting a war which was wrong and ill-advised. The men that I know that have returned to Vietnam for visits in the last few years have all told me that the country and the people are doing great and that we fought on the wrong side. We should have helped them boot the French out and history has made that pretty damned clear. Why we backed the occupation of a sovereign nation by a colonizing invader is beyond me.

      • James Hansen July 23, 2019 at 10:30 am #

        If only we had killed two or three Million more we might have won the war. Those damn Liberals lost the war and deprived us of victory!

      • JohnAZ July 23, 2019 at 11:16 am #

        There is always power vacuums during times of change.

        Japan took Indochina for its resources, esp oil. At the beginning of WW2.

        The twentieth century was all about oil. Period.

        The Japanese were thrown out and the French returned. Who really ran the area? Dutch Shell oil company. The locals had enough of foreign domination and threw out the French at Dien Bien Phu. Where was the US?

        Creating SEATO, dividing Viet Nam in half as an offshoot of Bretton Woods. Why? To protect the oil supply! We cannot allow Mao Control of the subcontinent, or Russia. We fought and lost 58000 guys for nothing but the protection of the oil company and the shipping lanes. Big mistake but hindsight is 20/20.

        The latest book I just finished gives a rosy picture in the future for the US. Why? His assumption was that the fracking revolution gives the US freedom from oil dependency on the world. The author believes that fracking will go on until at least 2030

        2030, we better be planning far beyond that.

        • James Hansen July 23, 2019 at 11:33 am #

          The fracking industry is about 1 1/2 Trillion in debt and Wall Street is getting nervous about lending them more money. Without fracking we will have to start importing at least 10 million barrels a day and the price will go much higher.

          We have made enemies with countries that have the largest reserves of oil in the world and they will not be selling oil for dollars !

          Just another Black swan that can land on the U.S. at any time.

          • malthuss July 23, 2019 at 12:17 pm #

            THANKS. I listed to Jim Willies long talk this morning.
            He said similar. debt and rising prices.

          • JohnAZ July 23, 2019 at 1:04 pm #

            I totally agree with you.

            The author is right, IF fracking lasts as a viable source of oil, the US will be in fairly good shape during the next downturn,

            If fracking is a very short term commodity and the industry starts to decline, the fit is going to hit the Shan.

            I will say one thing. If fracking fails, the US will become very belligerent protecting its sources of oil.

            One thing would help I believe and it is very hard ball. The price of oil and gas needs to go up to the point that fracking does not require debt. Make it a for profit industry and we will not have the cut off problem.

            I think about it. We have two bubbles, two Ponzi schemes going on that could threaten the good times. The first is student loans, that will blow up within the next few years. The second is fracking, which may be threatening the economy now. Both are due to unwarranted expansion of debt. Both are areas where phony incentives of paybacks are in play. Neither has any chance of payback and thus are candidates for tax payer bail outs down the road. Both need demand incentives to be decreased by letting true costs to be passed to the consumer instead of just reborrowing. Paying interest on money to pay off interest is fatal.

            Both are considered to be have to haves by the middle class, heck everybody. College is the ticket to success, right? Right! Oil is a necessity but domestic oil is not except to US egos.

            I think about what would happen if fracking disappeared tomorrow. The price of oil would skyrocket. Electric and hybrid cars would become competitive. Nuclear electricity generation would become popular as gas based would go up in price too. A lot of the desirable effects of GND would just happen as people adjusted to a realistic fossil fuel world.

          • Majella July 23, 2019 at 8:21 pm #


            Many, if not most, other countries in the developed world pay around twice as much for gasoline as a US citizen. These economies have adjusted to that cost, but it is generally higher taxes levied on the consumption of the product.

            If a ‘realistic fossil fuel price’ were to be struck, let’s say, by using my uneducated and totally uninformed estimate, it would be $250 per barrel or around 4x current prices.

            The current average national price is $2.50 per gallon, so you could expect it to rise to $10.00-odd.

            While the higher-taxed economies mentioned earlier would have some lee-way to reduce taxes to absorb the shock of a quadrupling of gasoline prices, the effect on the US would be devastating and pretty much instantaneous.

            So, how could such a transition be managed?

          • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 8:37 pm #


            “The current average national price is $2.50 per gallon, so you could expect it to rise to $10.00-odd.”

            I did the calculation one time from litres/£ to gallons/USD and we pay something like $8.95 here on average (much more in the Scottish Highlands and Islands), with red diesel being about half that.

            Yet another reason why a trade deal with the US, which benefits from dirt-cheap transport fuel, is nuts.

          • Majella July 24, 2019 at 11:10 pm #


            One needs to be careful in making the calculation – I had thought a US gallon was 4 litres, when in fact it’s only 3.8 litres.

          • Majella July 24, 2019 at 11:17 pm #


            Yes – in New Zealand, where I hail from, the equivalent USD price per US gallon is actually $5.72 (not too bad) yet the economy ticks along…of that $5.72, I estimate $1.73 is excise duty and $0.74 is GST (VAT) – a total of $2.47 or 43% in tax/levies.

            Most of the excise is spent on road improvements. In the US, I think the Federal fuel tax on non-diesel is $0.18 per gallon (that is, next to nothing) and the roads & bridges are, for some inexplicable reason, crumbling. Go figure.

          • GreenAlba July 25, 2019 at 12:17 pm #

            Yep, it doesn’t take much figuring.

            Although people don’t like it, the tax has had a beneficial effect over the years in reining in the madness.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 1:41 pm #

        They wore us down and that brought us to our “senses”. Such a realization would have never dawned but for that. Guerilla Warfare – you only need to one battle – the last one. One of his advisers asked Ho Chi Minh, Should we invite the Chinese in to help us get the Americans out. Ho Chi Minh: You fool. Last time they were here they stayed for 900 years. We’ll have the Americans out in twenty.

        And so it was. And yes, East Asians tend towards powerful, prosperous, collective states. Call it Capitalism or Communism – they’re going to do it very differently than we do. Far less personal freedom. They don’t trust themselves like we do. And we trust ourselves far too much – obviously.

        • elysianfield July 23, 2019 at 2:38 pm #

          “They wore us down and that brought us to our “senses”. ”

          As did Nixon’s “Christmas Bombing” bring them to theirs….

    • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 10:59 am #

      Yes, as there were hookers in the beginning so shall there be in the end. Human nature is a bitch, among other things (including a jerk) lol.

  46. FincaInTheMountains July 23, 2019 at 10:18 am #

    CUI PRODEST; CUI BONO unambiguously identify dividing lines in the West

    (England of Theresa May) + (EU of Juncker and Merkel) + (America of Hillary Clinton) = Black World Project

    (America of Donald Trump and Steve Bannon) + (England of Boris Johnson) + (Europe of Gerhard Schroeder, Sebastian Kurtz and Beppe Grillo) = Red World Project

    (America of Bushes + Barack Obama) + (England of Elizabeth II) + (Europe Mary Le Pen and Pope Francis) = White World Project

    The difference between world projects in anthropology: all world projects consider that humanity has broken up into two biologically different species, which we conditionally call perfecti and profane, and this makes ALL world projects anti-Christian heresies, since the very idea of such a breakup destroys the idea of Christ Incarnation.

    The Black World Project believes that the higher race perfecti may treat profane as animals, denying them the right to life and killing them in view of the lack of utility for perfecti.

    The Red World project unfolds Black in reverse and declares perfecti parasites that need to be destroyed as a class, and the White World Project believes that perfecti should take care of profane, in the sense that not profane feed perfecti, but on the contrary perfecti give the job to profane who without them cannot organize production process.

    “The Birth of Venus” Botticelli is the artistic expression of the White World Project

    “David” by Michelangelo is the artistic expression of the Red World Project

    Titian, ‘Rape of Europa’ is the artistic expression of the Black World Project


    • SoftStarLight July 23, 2019 at 11:08 am #

      And of course you are the Red Project aren’t you?

      • PeteAtomic July 23, 2019 at 11:09 am #

        purple, blue, orange.. what other colors can we get in there? ha ha 🙂

        • SoftStarLight July 24, 2019 at 2:15 am #

          Well why not have a Violet Project and a Jade Project too? Not sure what they are for but it sounds good :-).

      • Ol' Scratch July 23, 2019 at 12:55 pm #

        Nah. The Zionists are Black Project all the way, although they routinely shape shift with the others when it suits their purposes. But Finc obviously hasn’t thought any of this through very well (surprise, surprise!), which is no doubt due to a multitude of factors I won’t belabor here. Entertaining writing where its intelligible, to be sure, but I’m not sure I give any of it any credence whatsoever. PARTY ON, Finc!

      • FincaInTheMountains July 23, 2019 at 1:07 pm #

        The Red project is called Red because of the Red Dragon of Lancaster, which determined the color of the rose in the War of the Roses and, through Marx, the color of the Red Banner of Victory over the Blacks in 1945.


        • Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 1:42 pm #

          And Rothschild – known as Red Shield!

        • Majella July 25, 2019 at 7:35 pm #

          What utter tripe.

    • Ol' Scratch July 23, 2019 at 12:49 pm #

      MUCH better form here, at least. There might be hope for you yet. Still have to work on those Zionist tendencies of yours, but that’s a longer term project I think.

    • CancelMyCard July 23, 2019 at 8:49 pm #

      This guy is a complete, utter, and complete wacko.

      Say not more.

    • S M Tenneshaw July 25, 2019 at 4:58 am #

      Kewl story, bro.

  47. PeteAtomic July 23, 2019 at 10:55 am #

    FBI director Wray is testifying in front of the Senate Judiciary Cmte right now.
    Dick Durbin is attempting to pin Wray down about ‘white nationalists’ being terrorists in the US, but isn’t being effective, and mostly non-US acts of violence in other parts of the world.
    Wray repeating to Durbin that ‘homegrown Islamist terrorists’ continue to be main threat.

    • Ol' Scratch July 23, 2019 at 11:25 am #

      Look, under the bed!

      • PeteAtomic July 23, 2019 at 8:43 pm #

        pretty much

  48. Ol' Scratch July 23, 2019 at 11:14 am #

    Excellent take downs of the moon landing hoax:



    • James Hansen July 23, 2019 at 2:28 pm #

      I think I should get a medal for solving one of the conspiracies.

      • Ol' Scratch July 23, 2019 at 3:17 pm #

        That second web site is amazing. I had never researched the moon landings before and uncommitted either way, but I now consider that myth to be definitively busted.

        • Tate July 24, 2019 at 12:14 pm #

          Orlov is full of shite. Most of his arguments are absurd. For example, why are the moon rocks found on the moon’s surface the same composition as asteroids found in Antarctica. Duh… Because they are asteroids.

  49. James Hansen July 23, 2019 at 11:51 am #

    who links to PDFs and who would download them?

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  50. volodya July 23, 2019 at 12:10 pm #

    As they say, what goes around:


    Live by the sword….

    • Ol' Scratch July 23, 2019 at 1:01 pm #

      I have no idea if any of these allegations are true or not (nor do I really care), but it should be noted that this is how the deep state typically attacks any hostile elements which dare to question the dominant narrative.

  51. FincaInTheMountains July 23, 2019 at 12:22 pm #

    About everything or introduction to the next portion of the New York rumors

    I must say that in the 3 months that I was in Russia, New York has changed a lot.

    First of all, in Brighton Beach, a lot of young and beautiful girls walk around without a bra on the beach – they used to drag them to the police station and fined for it.

    Secondly, the sellers of soft drinks and beer disappeared from the beach, and the sea became shallow – obviously, the sand that was piled up as dam during the hurricane Sandy slowly slips into the sea and near the breakwaters, where the tide was two meters deep two years ago, now I can safely stand and smoke a cigar even with a little waves, which I watched as I swam from breakwater, swimming beyond which was previously prohibited.

    There is a hellish heat and cyclists disappeared from the streets of Manhattan, but the repair in the New York subway is completed and the stations really look much cleaner, I would even say more beautiful. And the entrance to the subway is equipped with a reader from a mobile phone, so it is now possible to enter without a metro card.

    True, it sometimes jams and withdraws money from a mobile phone twice, so that the victims of this robbery are forced to trudge through the hellish heat to the entrance where the guard sits, and he returns the money to the mobile phone.

    In the Greek Church, there is mourning over the appointment by Bartholomew to the post of Archbishop of America, the main ideologist of Constantinople’s Papism Elpidophoros (Lambriniadis), who, in response to the accusations by the Moscow Patriarchate, published something unintelligible on the website of the Constantinople Patriarchate under the very frank name “The First Without Equal. The answer to the Position of the Moscow Patriarchate on the issue of primacy in the Universal Church”.

    And mourning in the Greek Diaspora of the United States is connected with the fact that the former captain of the Turkish Islamic army, Patriarch Bartholomew, to appoint Elpidophoros forced into the resignation of the sergeant of the Greek army, Archbishop of America Demetrios (Trakatellis), with few people doubting that the real reason for this resignation was a blessing for victory, which The Archbishop of America Demetrios gave Donald Trump at the Republican Convention in 2016, and it appears that the Diocese Archbishop’s resignation is the most important event in these three months.

    But the most interesting thing is the New York rumors, which I don’t know how to tell yet because they link the crisis in the Persian Gulf with the resignation of Archbishop Demetrios and the planetary catastrophe that could have happened as a result of the fire on Losharik – there are too many people on this blog with “Zionist bug” up their ass and they would completely go nuts from these rumors.

    But I know how to talk about absolutely obvious things, for example, that there are no depths in the Barents Sea where you can test weapons specific to the Deep Water Losharik, which from the nearest hollow of the Norwegian Sea to Severomorsk could swim in two days, which is hardly possible after such an accident.

    And first of all, I want to draw your attention, that I am not saying that the civilian who was evacuated from the burning compartment on Losharik was Putin, what I am saying is that quite a large number of parishioners of the Greek Orthodox church in America think so, and the fact that someone told them this allows to draw quite important conclusions.

    Moreover, I do not exclude that this is actual truth, but these conclusions do not depend at all on the truth of this assumption or, if you want, the information impact on the American Orthodox, which is directly connected with the events in Georgia.

    Therefore, I can only express my regret that I am not acquainted with any of Putin’s body doubles, but from general considerations I personally understand that you can confuse a person with his body double on TV, you can confuse a person with his twin brother, being with him in same room, but we are all a bit psychic and we cannot confuse a person with his body double, being in the same room with him.

    And in this regard, I want to tell a story that occurred in the spring of 2015 and perfectly demonstrates the difference in attitudes to authority between Americans and Russians, as well as how Americans do not understand anything about Russia:

    I once was in the apartment of a bloke who dedicated himself to a well-paid fight for “a green planet and clean water” and hung his apartment with photos of himself, beloved, embracing young Al Gore.

    First, recognizing my accent, he began to give me a hard time about Alina Kabayeva (rumored Putin’s mistress), and I told him (I apologize, invented, if you like, joked in English) that Putin’s photos circulate on the Russian Internet, on which he, without fear, meets Kabayeva from the maternity hospital with a bouquet of flowers, and that Russian men respect Putin even more, and Russian women cry from affection.

    This bloke somehow saddened from my English humor and rolled out to me some absolutely utterly stupid story about the fact that Putin’s ex-wife Lyudmila claims that her husband was replaced and Putin is not Putin, but his body double.

    And I decided to finish him off, “in flight” so to speak, by telling him that everyone in Russia knows about it, but after Putin disappeared for five days after Nemtsov’s death and everyone was worried about his life and health, the news that there are just too many Putins and Russia will never run out of them, caused enormous enthusiasm and confidence in the bright future.

    The most interesting thing is that he took this obvious nonsense completely seriously (I for the fact that I didn’t burst laughing must be given the Gold Star of the Hero of Russia) and I don’t exclude the possibility that immediately after my departure he started calling Al Gore to report to him these circumstances.

    P.S. It looks like Bloomberg sniffed out that Trump was going to tell the truth about why Pence was ordered to return to Washington because of the state of emergency declared in the USA on July 2, 2019.

    And immediately began to jam this truth with conspiracy theories.


    • CancelMyCard July 24, 2019 at 9:09 pm #


      You are about a crazy as they come.

      And they come pretty crazy these days.

    • Majella July 25, 2019 at 7:46 pm #

      “The most interesting thing is that he took this obvious nonsense completely seriously”…I’m confused. Most of what you post is ‘obvious nonsense’ and you expect us to take it ‘completely seriously’.

    • Majella July 25, 2019 at 7:48 pm #


      Despite my skepticism, I’d still be intrigued to know what your take on this Losharik incident & ‘the averted global catastrophe’ may be.

  52. stelmosfire July 23, 2019 at 12:51 pm #

    I have it on good authotity that the “King of Pop” had the Moon Walk tapes along with the Beetles copyrights. Now they belong to Tito. Oh, The Horror! Ya gotta admit the dude has moves, and Slash cranks. Pedo that he was the Propofol caught up with him. I could learn to love that shit if it didn’t come attached to a colonoscopy!

    • stelmosfire July 23, 2019 at 12:51 pm #

      No link

      • Ol' Scratch July 23, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

        The infantile crotch grabs look even sillier now in retrospect. He definitely had talent, but it comes off as just so much adolescent posturing. Wasn’t impressed with him then and am even less impressed now. He should have stuck to singing.

        • stelmosfire July 23, 2019 at 2:00 pm #

          You’re right.

        • elysianfield July 23, 2019 at 2:43 pm #

          “The infantile crotch grabs look even sillier now in retrospect. He definitely had talent, but it comes off as just so much adolescent posturing”

          …entirely superficial….

          • Ol' Scratch July 23, 2019 at 3:14 pm #

            Yes, it definitely was that. Sorry to interrupt your syrupy sweet remembrances. The so-called “King of Pop” just wasn’t all that, no matter how much people try to mythologize him.

  53. Elrond Hubbard July 23, 2019 at 1:09 pm #

    So, this happened:

    Boris Johnson elected new Tory leader
    Former foreign secretary will succeed Theresa May as Britain’s next prime minister after beating Jeremy Hunt


    “Boris Johnson will become Britain’s next prime minister after winning a convincing victory over Jeremy Hunt in the Conservative party leadership race.

    “The former mayor of London, who has long cherished an ambition to lead his country, won 66% of the votes – 92,153, to Hunt’s 46,656. Turnout was 87.4% among 159,320 party members.”

    With banners waving, face resolutely toward the future, the avalanche has started, it’s too late for the pebbles to vote (except for 160,000 Tories who made the choice for the other 66 million), and so on.

    GreenAlba, my sister and her family happened to visit Edinburgh this past weekend and were suitably impressed by the sights. Enjoy your days and take care of yourself!

    • Q. Shtik July 23, 2019 at 3:12 pm #

      Boris Johnson elected new Tory leader – Elrond


      On Sunday just passed I posted a link from the NYT which told some interesting details about the Johnson family of which Boris was a part. Boris’s father and all of Boris’s siblings (he has several brother’s and sisters) are a bunch of highly educated high achievers. The father and all but one of his kids have that distinctive shockingly white-blond hair. One brother is a brunet. I don’t know about the mother. I think the brunet should get a DNA test and find out if Boris’s father is his father as well. I’m sure I’m not the first to wonder about this.

      Anyway, I extend my condolences to Green Alba.

      • BackRowHeckler July 23, 2019 at 3:44 pm #

        What color was the milkman’s hair?

        • malthuss July 24, 2019 at 10:43 am #


      • James Hansen July 23, 2019 at 7:47 pm #

        Q, could you go to 11:49 am and correct my spelling?

      • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 8:08 pm #

        Thank you, Q.

        Given that Stanley is a womaniser like his son (although possibly not quite so bad), it might have been that Mrs Johnson was getting her own back for once.

        But back in the real world, if you look at Leo’s features, they’re all Stanley’s, just like the other sons and Rachel.


        Although who knows if Leo’s mother is the same Mrs Johnson as Boris’ mother. But he’s definitely a chip off the old block in terms of his looks. Perhaps Mrs Leo Johnson will be luckier on other fronts, though. He sounds like a nicer sort.

    • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 8:43 pm #

      “With banners waving, face resolutely toward the future, the avalanche has started, it’s too late for the pebbles to vote (except for 160,000 Tories who made the choice for the other 66 million), and so on.”

      Indeed, Elrond. Must be nice to be voted PM by a bunch of well heeled gents from the shires (to whom he promised tax cuts, Trump style, during his campaign), without having to submit yourself to the approval of the hoi polloi.

      And thank you. I’m glad your sister enjoyed Edinburgh!

    • CancelMyCard July 24, 2019 at 9:11 pm #

      Green Alba is your sister?


      • GreenAlba July 25, 2019 at 12:06 pm #

        She might be construed as such were there an additional comma. But we will have to settle for the less coincidental reality. 🙂

  54. BackRowHeckler July 23, 2019 at 1:19 pm #

    Green Alba


    On your new Prime Minister!

    Its high fives and backslaps all around. Permit me to be so forward as to enguire “How are you celebrating this wonderful turn of events?”

    I think I’ll uncork a bottle of top shelf Beefeater Scotch, pour myself a shot, and toast you, GA, and then pour myself another shot and toast your new, beloved PM, the Honorable Boris Johnson.


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    • FincaInTheMountains July 23, 2019 at 3:03 pm #

      Isn’t that something?

      Anglo-Saxon world is going full Red – first Trump and now Boris


      Go get em, Dragons!

      • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 8:15 pm #

        “Anglo-Saxon world is going full Red – first Trump and now Boris”

        Boris isn’t Red, or White, or Black.

        He’s a chameleon and his colour (like his views on EU membership) can change from one day to the next, as indeed they did when he wrote two Telegraph articles for the same deadline, one persuasively arguing for membership and another arguing for leaving. Then he flipped a coin to see which would propel him to the premiership and here we all are.

        Boris isn’t a politician; he’s a celebrity. If the coin had fallen on the Remain side, we wouldn’t be leaving. Such is the power of celebrity.

        The coin is metaphorical, lest I be accused of the kind of creative ‘quoting’ that got Boris fired the first time.

    • Q. Shtik July 23, 2019 at 4:26 pm #

      a bottle of top shelf Beefeater Scotch


      Didn’t know Beefeater made scotch. Thought they only made Gin.

      • BackRowHeckler July 23, 2019 at 4:41 pm #

        thats what I meant to say.

        The important thing was to congratulate GA

        • elysianfield July 23, 2019 at 8:26 pm #

          I do not often drink Gin, but when I do….I pour the pig.

      • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 5:37 pm #

        Thank you all. You are too kind. And thank you for toasting me first, brh.

        ‘Honourable’ is a funny word to see beside Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, but we’re in that kind of world these days.

        “Born in New York City to wealthy upper-middle class British parents, Johnson was educated at the European School, Brussels, Ashdown House, and Eton College. He read Classics at Balliol College, Oxford,”

        I’d guess from that illustrious pedigree that the fate of ‘deplorables’ everywhere will be the thing that gets him up in the morning.

        • BackRowHeckler July 23, 2019 at 5:58 pm #

          So, you’re saying he is not a knight, a duke, an earl, a lord, a prince … just a middle class guy?

          Its a start.

          Let’s hope he can successfully manuever the UK out of the grasp of EU buttpounders in Brussels, whose chief concern seems to be keeping Muzzies and Africans streaming into Europe, not the well being of the ordinary Brit.


          • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 7:55 pm #

            I’m saying he’s not the slightest bit interested in anyone but Boris. He’s been sacked twice for lying. He has no more interest in the wellbeing of the ordinary Brit than he does in the wellbeing of the ordinary Martian.

            But enjoy your daydreams, brh.

            The UK’s just had its butt pounded good and hard by the President of a foreign state telling it who it can and can’t have as an ambassador, while Boris Johnson stood by as his enabler and let him do it. The first time the leader of a ‘friendly’ state has done such a thing.

            I expect more butt poundings from across the pond. Boris won’t mind in the least as long as he does OK out of it himself.

            Que sera sera.

          • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 7:57 pm #

            “…Brussels, whose chief concern seems to be keeping Muzzies and Africans streaming into Europe”

            Janos wasn’t able to tell me why the EU has been paying Turkey for three years to host several million Syrian refugees to keep them from adding to the numbers already in the EU.

            Maybe you can help me out, brh?

          • Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 8:25 pm #

            Most “Syrian refugees” streaming into Europe aren’t from Syria. Your ignorance remains invincible, tied to your mad Oracle, the BBC.

          • PeteAtomic July 23, 2019 at 8:49 pm #

            poor British and their ‘butt poundings’

            I remember the older Brits there when I lived in northern England who missed the Empire. I can understand why.

            You do the ‘butt poundings’, and aren’t the victim of it.

          • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 8:50 pm #

            The Syrian refugees in Turkey seem to be Syrian.

            And the Turks don’t seem to treat them very well, but it will be a while before their country looks like a country again, if it ever does. It’s easy enough to check how many Syrians left Syria and which countries are hosting them.

            And it wouldn’t change the point, which you have tried to change, that the EU is paying Turkey to host them, lest they add to the numbers already in the EU.

            Which rather busts your mad theory that the EU wants them all in the EU.

          • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 8:58 pm #

            “I remember the older Brits there when I lived in northern England who missed the Empire. ”

            Well, thankfully, PeteA, there are fewer and fewer of those, even among the Brexiters. But you’re right that they tend to be elderly. They’d have to be really elderly to miss the empire. There wasn’t much of it left when I was a child.

            What’s curious about this situation is that the UK is the only country I’ve ever come across which is always actively hanging on the the coat tails of its former colony, and fighting its wars for it. That’s unusual.

            And as regards your main point, if you’re not into the whole ‘reparations’ narrative, I don’t know why you’d want a country to have its butt pounded now when the people who live in it now had nothing whatever to do with what was done back then. You seem to be arguing for reparations.

            You should know I’m no fan of empire in any case.

        • BackRowHeckler July 23, 2019 at 6:01 pm #

          Mabe you have another Oliver Cromwell on your hands.

          • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 7:55 pm #

            Or another Homer Simpson. Whatever.

          • PeteAtomic July 23, 2019 at 8:50 pm #

            Or maybe Basil Fawlty?


          • GreenAlba July 23, 2019 at 8:58 pm #

            Haha, indeed, Pete A!

    • Majella July 23, 2019 at 8:51 pm #


      FYI, generally, ‘Beefeater” is a London Dry Gin, not a scotch whisky. And you know full well that the decidedly non-democratic (though perfectly legal) installation of the Boris is anathema to right-thinking people everywhere. It’s clear he’s a total fool and a narcissist – we can know this for sure because Trump says ‘he’s a great guy!’

  55. BackRowHeckler July 23, 2019 at 1:40 pm #

    Mayor Jimmy Walker, Beau Jim, would have his patrolmen round up prostitutes in Hells Kitchen, 42nd street, Soho, the Bowery and so on, ostensibly to get them off the street — and he did try to provide them with medical services, hot meals and a safe place to stay — but to keep themselves out of jail these ladies of the night would have to come up with cash — usually whatever they had on them, and this would be divided up between the police court judge, the Sgt in charge, and Mayor Jimmy himself. And at the end of the week the patrolmen would find a little extra in his pay envelope too. You say, that couldn’t have amounted to much. Well, when Beau Jim was dismissed from office by none other than FDR, and he was facing Federal indictment for corruption, he had enough swag saved up for him and his Ziegfield Folly dancer girlfriend to book a 1st class berth fo Paris and live in high style for 3 years, until the heat was off. When he came back they gave him a parade.


  56. BackRowHeckler July 23, 2019 at 1:41 pm #

    Now that’s class!

  57. Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 1:48 pm #

    Righteous Jew, Stephen Miller, to Jewish mediocrity, Chris Wallace:

    “I think the term ‘racist,’ Chris, has become a label that is too often deployed by the left, Democrats in this country simply to try to silence and punish and suppress people they disagree with, speech that they don’t want to hear,” Miller said.

    Well said, Steve. Now how bout the term, “Anti-Semite”? Same deal, right big guy? Crickets, silent at first, but then playing their tiny violins.

    • BackRowHeckler July 23, 2019 at 1:55 pm #

      Worshippers are being gunned down inside Synagogues in Pittsburg and in Cal. Is that ‘anti Semitic’ enough for you?


      • Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 2:07 pm #

        So are Christians. How many did they do to death in Russia, big guy? And what group controlled the Party under Lenin and Trotsky? Hint: What was Trotsky’s real name?

        Just because you don’t go to Church anymore is no reason to stop reading the Gospel…..

        • malthuss July 23, 2019 at 6:10 pm #

          The recent Colorado shooting is a good example of disappeared bc it doesnt fit the narrative.

      • Ol' Scratch July 23, 2019 at 3:09 pm #

        Probably by Zionists or Zionist sympathizers. It’s a full court press on false flag efforts these days. Welcome to the Brave New World.

        • malthuss July 23, 2019 at 6:11 pm #

          Yes, Jews get murdered.
          In USA, Id guess Blacks are the ones most likely to be murdered.
          Blacks make up 13% of population.

    • tucsonspur July 23, 2019 at 5:14 pm #

      Stephen Miller was razor sharp. His analysis just shattered Wallace’s arguments, filled with the same old ploys.

  58. BackRowHeckler July 23, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

    Of course he had alot of other ways to make money too. If you wanted to do business with the city, if you wanted a contract, you had to see Jim first, usually at the Casino/Gentlemen’s Club where he kept an office.

    People loved him, in that sharp fedora and impeccable tan double breasted suit. And the shoes, an ordinary Joe would have to save a months wages to buy a pair of shoes like that. Even when the feds were hounding him with their Seabury Commission investigation, people would call out to him on the street “Go get him Jimmy” and “Give em hell, Mayor.” The man had style.


  59. BackRowHeckler July 23, 2019 at 3:42 pm #

    Mayor Walker, responding to critics after raising his own pay from $25000 to $50000 per year (in the middle of the Great Depression)

    “Imagine what you’d have to pay me if I worked full time?”

    Go get ’em Jimmy!


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    • tucsonspur July 23, 2019 at 5:30 pm #

      NYC. City of Superlatives. City of my birth. (ha, ha).

      “Jimmy Walker, a finer class of corruption…”


      • BackRowHeckler July 23, 2019 at 6:08 pm #

        Ya, that describes Mayor Jimmy Walker, to a T.

        That’s why everybody loved him, in spite of himself.


        • Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2019 at 8:29 pm #

          People prate of freedom, but in fact are in love with their chains.

      • Tate July 24, 2019 at 12:35 pm #

        If it’s such a great place, why did you leave, tucsonspur?

        The truth is it’s a monstrous, inhuman place. No one could remain there & remain sane at the same time. That explains a lot.

  60. tucsonspur July 23, 2019 at 6:50 pm #

    U.S. spending is set to increase by over $300 billion. Billions more for defense, while we continue to be invaded from the South. The deficit is somewhere around the trillion dollar mark. The debt ceiling has been raised, while the economic floor under us cracks and creaks.

    Taxes on the wealthy and corporations have been cut, but is the economy growing enough to offset those? The general idea is to have Debt as a % of GDP declining. Debt that’s increasing as a % of GDP is unsustainable. It’s been said that the levels are not important but that the trend is.

    I’ve often wondered to what extent that idea can hold. Can we really have say, a $40 trillion dollar debt and say, a $4 trillion dollar deficit?
    In theory it would seem so. What’s the precise level at which unsustainability occurs? It’s also said that the Bond markets will determine that point.

    Aren’t bank savings’ rates much lower than the inflation rate? If inflation goes up, the bond market would want higher rates, but the Fed can’t allow it.

    If growth falters, as it must sooner or later, then the deficits have to be reduced or the inflation rate increased.

    I have no idea when it will all explode.

    • BackRowHeckler July 23, 2019 at 7:03 pm #

      Right now inflation isn’t too bad, TS.

      Stopped at Gandhi Market this morning, gallon of whole milk, $2.99.


      • tucsonspur July 23, 2019 at 8:21 pm #

        Hopefully, Mahatma or some Baghwan didn’t water it down. You probably checked the seal though.

      • James Hansen July 23, 2019 at 9:29 pm #

        If it was not organic I would not buy it,

    • JohnAZ July 23, 2019 at 7:58 pm #

      Here is the definition of a crime.

      I just looked up consumer debt for the US. 13 trillion at the end of 2018.

      330 million people have accumulated 13 trillion in debt.

      600 people in Washington DC are responsible for 22 trillion in debt.

      Disgusting! Power and corruption magnifies everything.

      • James Hansen July 23, 2019 at 9:42 pm #

        Kinda makes you long for the days of Bill Clinton does’t it ! Only five trillion in debt, those were the good old days.

  61. Pucker July 23, 2019 at 7:47 pm #

    I ordered Jacques Ellul’s “The Technological Society” from the UK rather than Amazon. Is this one of those books, like M..ei..n Ka..,,mpf”, that if you order a copy or check out a copy from the library will result in your name ending up on some government list?

  62. JohnAZ July 23, 2019 at 8:18 pm #

    What is the impact of the Federal debt? What if it was defaulted on?

    Do we really understand what would happen? Some people believe it will be the end of the world, others no big deal. Unfortunately, a lot of the latter group run our country.

    How far can this go on? When will the debt affect the economy?

    I read so many different answers to this question.

    Estulin says that the liquidity that still exists in the US is allowing the global financial network to continue. Unfortunately, a lot of our liquidity is tied up in less than desirable items such as drugs.

    If so, if the US puts its wall up and actually puts a big dent in the drug trade, does that put the global economy on its ear?

    If most of the debt’s creditors are everyday Americans, and they are counting on it for retirement, the Boomer explosion in retirement may put us under. Boomers haven’t really saved very much for retirement. If it weren’t For Social Security, Boomers would be really hurting.

    Remember the funds broker in The Big Short who predicted the 2008 real estate bust by timing out all the ARMs and realizing the banks were about to get the shaft because of bad mortgages in all those securities.

    I am wondering if some folks are already able to forecast the demise of the banks due to a certain level of national debt not getting paid plus the Student loan and fracking Ponzi schemes.

    Are we on the clock for economic disaster?

    • tucsonspur July 23, 2019 at 8:38 pm #

      Pretty much what I was asking above, John. The drug angle is an interesting one. It would seem to me that the liquidity is being provided to the Mexican Cartels. Some in ancillary fashion could rebound to the US. Check this out on drugs:


      We are on the clock. When it runs down is anybody’s guess.

      • tucsonspur July 23, 2019 at 8:51 pm #

        How many Boomers have bonds? Aren’t you assuming a bond panic? I’m not really up on these things.

    • BackRowHeckler July 23, 2019 at 8:40 pm #

      Well, Deutche Bank is wobbly, and its one of the largest banks in Europe. I read it has issued $49 trillion in derivatives, not sure if its true.

      • Majella July 25, 2019 at 8:05 pm #

        That’s 43.5 trillion Euros ‘in the wild’, but this is likely a gross exaggeration:

        From Investopedia:

        “…the vast difference between notional value and actual market value can be found in a popularly traded derivative, interest rate swaps. The large principal amounts of the underlying interest rate instruments, although usually included in the calculation of total swaps value, never actually trade hands. The only money traded in an interest rate swap is the vastly smaller interest payment amounts – sums that are only a fraction of the principal amount.

        According to the most recent data from the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), the total notional amounts outstanding for contracts in the derivatives market is an estimated $542.4 trillion. But the gross market value of all contracts to be significantly less: approximately $12.7 trillion.”

        Still, $12 trillion is still an unreal amount of money for the human mind to contemplate, and a nasty crash in that market would still be a shock wave through the global economy.

    • James Hansen July 23, 2019 at 8:51 pm #

      By the time Trump completes a second term, if he wins, the debt will be more than 30 Trillion. The interest alone will be near a Trillion dollars a year. If interest rates go up we will default on the debt pretty quickly.

      By 2024 the petro dollar might be almost finished and things will go downhill from there.

      By pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal he opened the door for China to take over the reserve currency much faster than it would of normally happened.

      A great strategy to make China great again.

      • James Hansen July 23, 2019 at 9:39 pm #

        If and when the dollar starts to look shaky, the oil producing countries could insist on being paid in gold for their oil. I guess then we will find out if Fort Knox really has any gold in it.

        • JohnAZ July 23, 2019 at 10:20 pm #

          Interesting. The dollar is the reference currency for the world. That means when a country wants to create their own currency, it needs to have so many dollars in place to back up their own currency. The dollar substitutes for gold. Worked great until Nixon floated the dollar against the gold standard. The petro dollar is our modern day version. To buy oil, you must do it with dollars, the substitute for gold. China would love to set the yuan as the reference currency, never happen, they have the same debt problem as we do. I would not be surprised if a barrel of oil took the place of the dollar.

          There is not enough gold to represent all the currency needed, thus the crazy floating currencies.

          Trump has done nothing much to affecting all the big picture items that are affecting the world financial markets.

          The most effective control on the deterioration might be birth control.

          • tucsonspur July 24, 2019 at 2:52 am #

            Reserve currency? Nixon devalued the dollar against gold and abandoned gold-dollar convertibility. The dollar started to dive and Volcker and Reagan saved it in the early 80’s.

            Interest rates went near 20%. King Dollar began in the mid eighties.

      • JohnAZ July 23, 2019 at 10:05 pm #

        No 1. China is not even worth a nickel compared to the US. These countries we are so afraid of are nothing. The US has the only Navy in the world that controls the shipping lanes. America will take out Iran in short order if it comes to that or any other country. Russia used Nukes to approach us in war intensity and they are still the only second military power to us. Nobody still messes with Russia. Everybody thinks they can mess with us however. Subject for discussion, why is that? The military of the US can dispatch anyone if left alone by the politicians.

        China’s big weakness is it is accumulating debt hand over fist. They are not developing their consumer base as their economy is based on exports. The world spends more than it generates. That will continue only so long.

        • tucsonspur July 24, 2019 at 3:26 am #