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Sure enough, President Donald Trump likes to get out on the golf links, which is where he was on Saturday, a most spectacularly lovely Indian Summer day following a harsh election week. Of course, his outing provoked much mirth from a gloating national news media — and, by national, I mean united in purpose — as in: look at the big fat sad golfing loser-clown we of the anointed Woke class just beat like a drum on our noble march back to power!

In their righteous raptures of perceived victory, they missed Mr. Trump’s message, which was: This is how worried I am about the final outcome of this election. He’s a daisy, our president.

The news media’s strategy here, you understand, is to overcome reality by main force — reality being that the election Joe Biden rode in on was a garbage barge of ballot fraud that is on its way to being called out. So, the newspapers and cable stations rushed to declare Mr. Biden “the winner,” with several swing states’ votes not yet completely counted, and Mr. Biden self-ratified the call, while the Woke Resistance spent the weekend partying in Covid-19 super-spreader crowds they had deplored only days earlier.

Today’s (Monday’s) New York Times is an especially rich billow of gaslight wafting over the nation, as denoted in these headlines:

The Election Is Over. The Nation’s Rifts Remain. 

President Trump Lost the Race, but Republicans Know It’s Still His Party

Biden to Restore a White House Tradition of Presidential Pets

It’s self-evident, you see. The charismatic Joe Biden is moving into the White House, pets and all (plus Hunter in the Lincoln bedroom). Done and done, signed, sealed, delivered according to us, the august Newspaper of Record! Don’t even bother complaining, ye pathetic hordes of racist, red-hatted whiners…. And, by the way, we’ll be coming after all y’all not so fine people — as signaled by Washington Post op-edster Jennifer Rubin:

That was all the news that America got this weekend while the Golden Golem of Greatness, he laid low on the golf links, his own omission to concede the election pulsating only dimly through all that gaslight, the message drowned out by the popping champagne corks and whooping in Washington’s Black Lives Matter Square, across the street from the soon-to-be fumigated White House.

Not a few reality-based observers in the alt.media pointed out that it’s not the MSM’s official duty to pick winners. That’s up to elected state legislators certifying the vote. So, what’s really going on?

The Democrats… the Resistance… “progressives,” the Left — whatever you want to call them — are much less afraid of being caught for committing election fraud than for getting nailed on a long list of previous and quite serious crimes dating back a decade, including SpyGate, MuellerGate (Russian Collusion), Ukraine-WhistleblowerGate, Uranium One, the Skolkovo technology transfer, the Clinton Foundation’s pay-to-play doings, and the recently disclosed influence-peddling and money-laundering schemes of the Biden Family. A little election fraud ain’t nuthin to that massive, reeking landfill of perfidy and sedition, and folks apparently forget that the election happened just on the eve of whatever investigative results John Durham & Company may be ready to drop on the nation — including the afore-alluded-to Biden Family hijinks, of which there is a live case at the DOJ. Boy are they afraid of all that. Just sayin… in case you put it out of mind in all the excitement. So, now we will discover whether they committed targeted election fraud, and then, perhaps, we’ll find out how those other matters turn.

As for the election fraud itself, you can be sure that a holy host of computer nerd statisticians on Mr. Trump’s end have been working backstage, out of the limelight, to sift those kwazy numbers coming out of places like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Georgia, Wisconsin, Arizona, and Nevada where the race was pretty darn tight. From a strictly procedural point-of-view, Pennsylvania’s 20 electoral votes look like an open-and-shut case of official misfeasance — insofar as that state’s Supreme Court exceeded its authority in changing the election law to allow ballots received after 8p.m. election day to be counted for days afterward (election law being the sole prerogative of the state legislature). And that’s a lot of ballots. That will likely be adjudicated in the US supreme court, and pretty pronto, given the exigent circumstances.

Then there are the janky numbers in all those other states where the Dominion vote tabulation software was used: 130,000 here… 27,000 there… et cetera. By the way, the company that puts out this Dominion product is partly owned by Democratic Senator Dianne Feinstein’s husband, Richard C. Blum; one of its top executives is Nancy Pelosi’s former chief-of-staff; and the software’s development was funded by the Clinton Global Initiative in 2014. I guess they know a good thing when it jumps up and bites them on the lips.

I suppose you’ve also seen rumors about the Intelligence Community’s election-meddling software programs, HAMR (“Hammer”) and Scorecard allegedly being employed in last week’s election, but that is only a rumor so far. Sidney Powell, lawyer to General Michael Flynn, dropped it on the airwaves, and recall that General Flynn was the Director of the DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency), so there’s a chance that he knows about these programs in excruciating detail. There’s also reason to believe that General Flynn retains connections to many loyal intel techies who worked under him, and are capable of sussing out the situation. Also, by the way: do you suppose that any of this election-meddling software was used to ensure Joe Biden’s mysterious out-of-nowhere victory in the Super-Tuesday primary? Hmmm….?

So, is this over? Is the election a done deal? Perhaps not. A fun weekend was had by all on the Biden side. Stand by in the days ahead. You may see a lot of heads explode as their narrative goes south. If it turns out I’m wrong about all this, I will be the first one to say so around here.


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1,152 Responses to “Fore !”

  1. Kellyfrombayfield November 9, 2020 at 9:57 am #

    Thanks for the very informative post Jim.
    Should be quite a ride this week.
    Trump must have nerves of steel.
    If he prevails, the stunned look on all the MSM and Democrats will be worth every penny.

    • gustafus November 10, 2020 at 6:50 am #

      I don’t know how he gets out of bed every day. Our poor Donald —

      My money sez the “dindo nuffin” brigades in Detroit, Atlanta, Phillie, et al – weren’t particularly astute in the cover up.

      The minds being employed to ferret out the ham handed steal are formidable – including a privately funded war room with Robert Barnes, Richard Baris, and Matt Braynard (see twitter war room)

      • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 8:33 am #

        Yep, the anomalies are rather striking. This needs a full audit and we need to eliminate mass postal voting, a fraud vector, and have far more secure elections with far more sunlight and verification of identity. No sudden extra boxes of ballots showing up at 4AM.

        • its me again November 10, 2020 at 2:03 pm #

          Some senior lawyers at Jones Day, one of the country’s largest law firms, are worried that it is advancing arguments that lack evidence and may be helping Mr. Trump and his allies undermine the integrity of American elections, according to interviews with nine partners and associates, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to protect their jobs.

          At another large firm, Porter Wright Morris & Arthur, based in Columbus, Ohio, lawyers have held internal meetings to voice similar concerns about their firm’s election-related work for Mr. Trump and the Republican Party, according to people at the firm. At least one lawyer quit in protest.

          • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 2:34 pm #

            If the lawyers are so worried about the integrity of elections I assume they’re all for measures to ensure only those with the right of franchise get to vote and that those votes are not negated by other means?

            I’d think they’d be for paper ballots, strict ID requirements, regular purging of the rolls, secure chain of custody and the like to decrease the likelihood of ‘anomalies’ that threaten the integrity and legitimacy of the process.

            Or are they the sort who think fraud risk is of no consequence so long as every derelict on skid row and every corpse in the graveyard can feel free to be ‘harvested’ for the good of the machine?

          • Ron Anselmo November 10, 2020 at 4:56 pm #

            Cite your sources.

            “Some senior lawyers”, “spoke on condition of anonymity”, “according to people”? Really?

            Put up or shut up.

          • Ron Anselmo November 10, 2020 at 10:24 pm #

            Nice, figured as much. I knew a guy, who knew a guy, who knew a guy, who knew a guy…

    • its me again November 10, 2020 at 1:39 pm #

      This is all garbage. Pure speculation of fraud. What about the states that Trump won? Did Trump commit fraud in those states? Stick with the facts, and the bottom line is that Trump was fired. Deal with it.

      • gonetohell November 10, 2020 at 2:29 pm #

        Kuntstler doesn’t mention the seats that the Dems lost in the house, I guess those were all legitimate elections. Kuntsler is now officially a lunatic.

        • Ron Anselmo November 10, 2020 at 5:01 pm #

          Right! Fair is fair after all – probably just an oversight on JHK’s part – let’s recount those too!

      • rachiannka November 11, 2020 at 1:58 pm #

        Yes, why is it so hard to believe that people prefer Biden over Trump (who totally botched the pandemic response and rampantly sows division)? People got tired of the act after 4 years. Over half of the 2016 Trump supporters I know have since switched camps. This Democratic result is not an unbelievable one by any means.

        This blog is full of spite and one-sided ranting.

        A more intelligent writer would balance information with insight into the workings of both political parties. This JHK wants to drum up a flailing Trump base so he can sell his books that tout gold as better than stock returns (while ignoring dividend reinvestment). He makes up the facts as he sees fit. I’ve read the books and while he has some good insight into the future he likes to cherry pick and half explain complex phenomena to suit his agenda.

      • longcipher November 12, 2020 at 7:17 pm #

        What in god’s name has happened to Kunstler??? When did he become a Breitbart clone? This is so incredibly sad to read. Based on the advertising on his site, I’m assuming he’s making a decent living off of preppers, survivalists and right-wing conspiracists. I don’t begrudge a man supporting his family, but this is such a far fall for an author I really admired.

        • Ron Anselmo November 12, 2020 at 11:33 pm #

          Because his thoughts & opinions are at odds with yours? Hope they don’t defund the thought police.

          Here’s a helpful hint – don’t play poker. Not for a lot of money anyway – you’re an easy read.

    • Captain Swing November 10, 2020 at 9:24 pm #

      Can someone please explain how postal votes suddenly became “illegal” votes? Oh, that’s right, they didn’t go his way.
      OF COURSE the postal vote was huge this year… there’s this virus called Covid19 going around – You may have heard of it – Or it might just be a Democrat hoax – damn good one though, given the thousands of actual corpses.
      A lot of smart people clearly thought “Gee, being in a confined space lining up with strangers is probably not a great idea right now” – The “smart people” bit is probably why they overwhelmingly gave Trump the bum’s rush.
      There is not a scintilla of evidence to support the accusation of voter fraud – NONE.
      Now it seems that he can’t even leave Office without dragging down the Office of POTUS even further… and I thought Hitler was a sore loser when he killed his dog.
      I’m not saying that Mr Biden sets the bar all that high, but he is a vast improvement. Besides, he had the good sense to chose Kamala Harris, who I (and I suspect Joe) think will make a GREAT President.

      • Ron Anselmo November 10, 2020 at 10:29 pm #

        Evening Captain. What color is the sky in your world?

        • Captain Swing November 10, 2020 at 11:40 pm #

          Hi Ron… Very blue down here in Victoria, Australia. Not enjoying lockdown, but we’ve almost gotten Covid19 beaten – I am glad you finally have a President who might spend more time doing something about it than working on his hook shot.
          As for Joe Biden, he might mince his words a bit, but I think his heart’s in the right place (at least he appears to have one), and I think he knows better than anyone that the long term job of fixing things is beyond him – The best he can do is start the job, then hand it over to Kamala – Intelligent but not a smartass, compassionate but not a softy, more genuinely “Presidential” in her brief introduction of Joe Biden than Trump could be in a dozen lifetimes. She’d of gotten my vote!

          • Q. Shtik November 11, 2020 at 12:10 am #

            She’d of gotten my vote! – Cap Swing

            ========

            have

          • Ron Anselmo November 11, 2020 at 12:53 am #

            Sir, our President is the same President we’ve had for the past four years. Chances are, he will be re-elected on December 14th, when the 538 Electors, who actually elect the US President, cast their votes, as is the Constitutional process, provided it gets that far.

            (That process has better odds of being short-circuited in between due to the indisputable evidence of intentional voter fraud. The suggestion that no such proof exists is laughable at best – much of it plainly admissible in court as shown by precedent.)

            The US is a Constitutional Republic, which many fail to grasp. The US is not a Democracy (i.e.,mob rule). The Founding Fathers, in their near infinite wisdom, realized that the election of the President was far too important to leave to the hoi polloi, thus the Electoral College.

            The US President is not elected by popular vote (of the mob). To say that President Trump is a sore loser, is a straw man argument, the basis of which is the supposition that he lost.

            That is not the current argument. The argument (and reality, the reason for my question above) is that Mr. Biden has not won. That’s a false narrative, accelerated and promoted by the Fake News media, and believed by the low-IQ, useful idiot Democrats.

            No better proof than the premature ejaculation witnessed last Saturday night all across the US, and very few wearing COVID condoms (masks) I might add.. Talk about embarrassing.

            Yes, I’m sure lockdown is no fun, but living in a country that has been disarmed, you really have no other options, do you? The US is the last free country, free because the government still fears the people – not the other way around. Bet PM Morrison is getting along just fine though.

            Thanks for such kind words about Mr. Biden & Ms. Harris, but the reality is that Joe is almost ready for his chocolate pudding and a nap, and “Heel’s Up” Harris didn’t get to the top based on her “intelligence”. Sorry to disappoint you on both counts mate.

            Cheers.

  2. Vadrosaul November 9, 2020 at 9:58 am #

    Jim, you cannot be proven wrong about it all, you can only be prevented from finding out the full truth.

    I started saying to my compatriots back in early 2019 that the unrelenting assault on Trump meant that election fraud in 2020 is guaranteed. The technical aspects of the system are so wide open to abuse via human biases, and backed so thoroughly by media gaslighting of the lemmings, that it has likely been going on in a massive scale since Obama’s election in 2008.

    Trump is relaxed because, if he was smart, he’s likely been planning his counterassault for well over a year. To him, it’s either do or die. If he loses the election, he likely has a plan B that will dredge out the swamp so deeply that it’ll desertify it (we get that anyways in 2025).

    • abbybwood November 9, 2020 at 1:05 pm #

      Trump can also declassify and dump everything from the JFK assassination to what we know about UFOs and on and on.

      Plus he could pardon lots of people.

      And he could do all this and STILL win the election!

      The key date is “Safe Harbor Day” and this year it is either the 8th or 12th of December. This is the day all the states choose electors.

      After all the court challenges and recounts, THAT will be the day either Trump or Biden will become “President-elect”.

      The MSM (including FOX) that called Arizona for Biden Tuesday night with 20% of the vote counted, they have clearly been working against Trump from the beginning and it has continued up to this moment.

      The CIA’s Brennan and Mockingbird are clearly going strong!

    • Iananna November 10, 2020 at 9:03 am #

      The best tekkies in the military, commerce & spookdom have had the last four years to figure out and, if necessary, infiltrate small changes via the operating system back doors, a little here, a little there, nothing to obtrusive.
      The effect would be cumulative and, strategically, the fraud need not be huge, just well targetted.
      So glad that I sank my savings in popcorn futures.

  3. Ron Anselmo November 9, 2020 at 9:59 am #

    Jim – great work as always.

    Thanks for the insight on the Dominion software. Not surprising.

    Keep up the great work. You’re a beacon to many, in times that appear to be getting a little darker.

    • Ron Anselmo November 9, 2020 at 10:06 am #

      Many don’t scare easily, myself included, but Jennifer Rubin’s comments are frightening. Especially the ease with which they are tossed about. Dorsey & his minions must not consider her veiled threat worthy of violating Twitter’s terms of use policies, No surprise there.

      • MaryV November 10, 2020 at 10:46 am #

        Yes. This “you’re on a list” business is jarring (as designed). Remember, the Democrat/liberal aim now is to remove freedom of speech; this is part and parcel of that. Normalizing the ‘shutting up’ of people who dare to oppose the official story. AOC the twit tweeted something similar the other day. The ominous “we’re taking names and will be meting out punishment” line. Isn’t it amazing that for all they lose, the Democrats still act as if they are in charge and have all the power? That’s what having the deep state behind you does, I guess. But I have to concur with some informed and unflappable, clear-eyed thinkers are saying this week: The CIA is not the competent agency so man think it is. The leadership is horrible. Trump had a new agency created in 2018, called CISA, for election integrity. He’s also raising money to take this to any court he can. My money is not on the Democrats… their hubris and hypocrisy will be their undoing.

        • Ron Anselmo November 10, 2020 at 11:53 am #

          Yes. Delusion leads to hubris, which leads to miscalculation. They have miscalculated. Danger abounds where evil is allowed to flourish. Situational awareness, from back channels to the streets, is essential.

    • So many liars November 9, 2020 at 10:17 am #

      Ron, I believe you posted a few days ago regarding blockchain encryption – an electronic watermark – that would allow tracking of ballots and provide proof of fraud. I watched the video link, but I have a question for you or anyone who might have some insight:

      If agents loyal to Trump indeed developed this encryption, how could they manage to embed it in ballots that were printed in hundreds/thousands of local districts? My ballot included local candidates and amendments, as I’m sure all of them did, and I’m fairly sure they were printed locally. How could this alleged encryption be distributed and incorporated into all of those ballots?? Seems like an insurmountable obstacle for implementation.

      • Ron Anselmo November 9, 2020 at 10:24 am #

        SML – Yes, seems a Herculean task, and I’d be lying if I said I knew the answer. Hopefully another reader has more expertise in the distribution logistics, and will weigh in.

      • pranah November 9, 2020 at 11:20 am #

        Some other commenter in a different column (which I can’t locate, sorry) said the states all get their ballot paper from a central location, and the paper comes with the watermark. Anyone else see this?

        • messianicdruid November 9, 2020 at 12:13 pm #

          No, but the swing states are the main ones. For example there was no need to watermark Oklahoma ballots or mostly rural states.

          • Ron Anselmo November 9, 2020 at 12:50 pm #

            Druid – You are absolutely correct. That would be DJT for you, saving the taxpayers money every step of the way – more efficient swing states only.

        • Ron Anselmo November 9, 2020 at 12:51 pm #

          Nice. Thanks for that Pranah – hope that holds true.

        • abbybwood November 9, 2020 at 1:08 pm #

          Plus I read that Homeland Security is in on it.

          • Kim November 9, 2020 at 6:59 pm #

            Sorry to say, but the rumor is not true. But donot lose hope as there is still a deus ex machina in place to give us the dramatic endng we all want, The Supreme Court.

            And by the way, Jim mentioned the statisticians, and boy are they going to be important, because – as they will show – the numbers don’t lie and an expert statistical opinion is regarded as perfectly admissable evidence in a case of election fraud.

            It is highly ironic but stats will be even more deadly for Biden in this election because the use of mail-in voting has caused the overall vote to be thoroughly “shuffled” – like a pack of card – as it went through the USPS.

            This means that there are no excuses for spikes, oddities, and anomalies like entire vote batches being received in a lump where they all voting for just one candidate or all of them are filled in only for the Presidential race.

            On the contrary, the entire vote should be the smoothest and most thoroughly blended ever, statististically speaking. This will be explained in court with great clarity by PhDs with giant craniums being led by lawyers in very expensive suits.

            Two important relevant articles:

            1) Why the use of mail-in balloting makes it much easier to capture statistical proof of fraud.

            https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1325592112428163072.html

            2) How a federal case to overthrow election results and get a new election might proceed.

            The key issues around qualities of the evidence are discussed and is is explained expert statistical evidence is admissible in proving fraud occurred.

            This is crucial wrt voting machines and the unlikely voting figures for Biden.

            And yes, they can order new elections.

            https://macris.substack.com/p/how-might-election-fraud-get-litigated

  4. snagglepuss November 9, 2020 at 9:59 am #

    Trump’s resilience is inspiring. I admire it.

  5. shotho November 9, 2020 at 10:00 am #

    The fix is in. Not going to change. Biden has won. The decline of the nation will probably accelerate now, but not by much. Undoubtedly, financial collapse will be in time to taint Biden much more than a questionable election. The last “normal” election which was in 2016 will surely finish our political system, right in time for the demise of our economic one.

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    • Night Owl November 9, 2020 at 10:12 am #

      Comedy.

      Cartoon levels of fraud have been uncovered, and the evidence is piled high.

      But fear “The Fix,” kids. After all, an anonymous source familiar with the President’s thinking told me it is in, and he has to concede. It must be true.

    • Exscotticus November 9, 2020 at 11:53 am #

      Biden will likely gain power, but he’ll do so under such a cloud of illegitimacy that he’ll be a lame duck from day one. His “mandates”? Conservative states will ignore them and laugh in his face. What will Biden do? Send in the marines?

      Not a good way to kick off a term—with roughly half of America believing he stole the election. And unlike fake news Russia collusion, which never alleged anything like widespread systemic voter fraud, the evidence against Dems includes witnesses, pics, video, and stochastic analysis. And of course no one can dispute the state court rulings that changed the rules at the last moment, and nullified voter authentication.

      • Vadrosaul November 9, 2020 at 12:25 pm #

        “What will Biden do? Send in the marines?”

        Bush Jr. formed an entire department as a front for a deep-state power grab into the lives of American citizens. Bush established concealed control of the populous, and now Biden has the chance to establish the overt control.

        There are plenty of 18-29 year-old idle lemmings that can be recruited for a new “Department of Homeland Cohesion”.

        • abbybwood November 9, 2020 at 1:30 pm #

          The latest I have heard is that Biden/Harris want a mask mandate while we are in our homes! In my garden planting tulip bulbs??

          While we are showering and sleeping too?! Ha!

          And they say they will get governors and mayors to sign on.

          All this AFTER their drunken super spreader celebrations this past weekend?! With even Schumer maskless going through the crowds?

          You want a “red line”?

          This is it.

      • City_of_76 November 9, 2020 at 1:27 pm #

        The 2020 presidential vote currently stands at Biden with 75,663,766 votes (50.6%), and Trump with 71,257,571 votes (47.6%).

        There are, so far, no significant verifiable claims of fraud — certainly nothing on a scale to tip the election. Biden’s leads even in tight states (WI, MI, PA) are at tens of thousands of votes. And we know our voting systems are actually quite secure, with lots of people from “both” sides deeply interested in, and working to ensure, their integrity.

        Trump also lost the popular vote in 2016, and it was reported at the time that he was eager to not appear as illegitimate, which partly explains his nonsense claim that there were 3 million fraudulent ballots; recall that the commission he set up to investigate 2016 voter fraud found nothing and disbanded quietly. Besides many online news articles, see
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Advisory_Commission_on_Election_Integrity

        You may believe Biden stole the election, but most people understand that we just had a fair & secure election, and the voters were heard. Trump haters may hate Trump, but we didn’t concoct claims of massive fraud when he won in 2016 — let alone go along with baseless claims of fraud cast by the duly-christened loser, as Trumpoholics do with their guy now.

        I’m really sorry you lost, but I’m especially sorry you were conned so badly by a beauty pageant organizer.

        Are you willing to work to strengthen American democracy? Are you willing to love your neighbors?

        • benr November 9, 2020 at 1:45 pm #

          Nope.
          Not the ones with the we believe bullshit and the evidence of fraud is all over just because you don’t see it on your media of choice consumption does no mean it does not exist.
          Much like the little kid who closes his eyes and covers their ears and screams lalalalal while kicking their feet because they don’t want to learn thje awful truth massive election fraud occurred and will be uncovered and looked into.
          Any imbecile knows when election fraud is ignored it just gets worse.

          • City_of_76 November 9, 2020 at 2:00 pm #

            @benr – I ask, once again, to please share some articles about this fraud you speak of. I’ve asked multiple times in today’s messages for someone to share some links, and so far we’e got one statistical analysis from Zero Hedge. I’m eager to read more, yet you characterize me as a “little kid.”

            Make the case. This is your chance. You have my attention and time for now.

        • Exscotticus November 9, 2020 at 5:02 pm #

          >>> There are, so far, no significant verifiable claims of fraud — certainly nothing on a scale to tip the election.

          There doesn’t have to be enough to “tip the election”. If there is proof of significant fraud, then that will be enough to illegitimize the election in the eyes of roughly half the electorate.

          Let’s be clear what we mean. Significant fraud is not, “One dead person voted.” If Reps can prove that 25k dead people voted, or 25k illegitimate sequential ballots all marked for Biden appeared in the dead of night by persons unknown, then that’s that. Will 25k votes swing it? Nope. Will it mean there was in fact significant fraud? Yup. And if they can do 25k in one location, then they can do it in another. Faith in the system is GONE.

          • Kim November 9, 2020 at 7:28 pm #

            @ Exscotticus

            They are going to easily show that 100s of 1000s of votes were illegal, and for a variety of reasons.

            One of the easiest cases to prove is that state election officials were in breach of their own state Constitutions when they gave a whole range of different unconstitutional instructions to ballot handlers.

            One of the most obvious is their instructions to “cure” ballots.

            Blatantly against state election laws. Election officials cannot fill in so-called witness addresses or provide other necessary information where they are absent from a ballot.

            That alone covers 10s or even 100s of 1000s of ballots. Even before signatures and voter rolls are scrutinized

            State officials have no power to suspend counting. That is not allowed under state election law. Yet they did it. Why? Contributes to the impression of fraud. Who wants to perjure himself over something like this? Watch the tenpins tumble.

            In short, high officials of the States cannot override their State Constitutions on their own say-so but they did just that in all of the battleground states.

            This is a slam dunk. Just to start, the Supreme Court will rule that every ballot received after 8 pm on Nov 3 is to be discarded. That alone might turn the election or – owing to comingling – require new elections.

          • freetrapper November 10, 2020 at 10:08 am #

            “If there is proof of significant fraud, then that will be enough to illegitimize the election in the eyes of roughly half the electorate.”

            There need be no fraud at all to illegitimize the election in the eyes of roughly half the electorate.

            All it took was Donald Trump’s relentless program of brain-washing. The election was illegitimate in the minds of half the populace of the USA long before it took place. James Howard Kunstler’s included, unfortunately. The power of celebrity? Desperation a torpedo to the mass IQ? Both no doubt.

            Meanwhile, the rest of world is in disbelief at how susceptible to mass mind-control by a destructive monster the US populace has proven in her decline and fall. But hey, it’s not like that hasn’t happened before in history. Quite the opposite, it’s par for the course when human fortunes go south.

          • hmuller November 10, 2020 at 11:09 am #

            “All it took was Donald Trump’s relentless program of brain-washing.” – treeflapper,

            It’s damn hard to brainwash people when the media is in the hands of your enemies. Who, by the way, are shutting down alternate voices on YouTube and social media. This bothers the “true believers” not one bit. The basic premise of WOKE thinking is people may only think permitted thoughts.

          • Exscotticus November 10, 2020 at 11:53 am #

            >>> There need be no fraud at all to illegitimize the election in the eyes of roughly half the electorate. All it took was Donald Trump’s relentless program of brain-washing.

            A retort that labels every Trump supporter as brain-washed. How original.

            Got anything besides hyperbolic bigoted comments?

          • its me again November 10, 2020 at 1:45 pm #

            There was no fraud and Barr knows it.

        • Epicur November 9, 2020 at 10:59 pm #

          test

        • Epicur November 9, 2020 at 11:10 pm #

          @ City_of_76, re:”…his nonsense claim that there were 3 million fraudulent ballots; recall that the commission he set up to investigate 2016 voter fraud found nothing and disbanded quietly.”

          Another possibility is the his team used the evidence uncovered by the commission to learn the tactics used in committing the fraud and, since he had won, decided to wait for a better time to use what they had learned.

          A lawsuit was filed this morning in Detroit with some fairly extensive allegations. I will provide a link in a subsequent comment because a previous attempt at this has sent my comment into internet purgatory.

          At any rate, the lawyers seem to be quite well prepared with their allegations, and, if they were starting from zero, have worked much faster than most lawyers I know and have worked with. But then again, they may not have been starting from zero.

          • Epicur November 9, 2020 at 11:13 pm #

            The lawsuit:

            https://townsquare.media/site/656/files/2020/11/election-crimes-lawsuit.pdf

          • Epicur November 9, 2020 at 11:27 pm #

            @ City_of_76

            I have tried to post link to excerpts of the lawsuit at Sharyl Attkisson’s blog, but cannot get the link to post.

            If you google her name to find her blog you will find the excerpts that provide a much shorter read.

            This does not look trivial to me.

          • Epicur November 9, 2020 at 11:34 pm #

            @ City_of_76

            At directorblue.blogspot there is a chart of some 6555 certified dead who voted in Michigan last week. In case the link will not post I will attempt to put it in a subsequent comment.

            The lawyers are certainly working fast. Treasure hunts are much easier if you know where to dig.

          • Epicur November 9, 2020 at 11:35 pm #

            Here’s a link to the chart of dead voters. On the linked page there is a further link to names, DoBs, etc.

            http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2020/11/not-suspicious-at-all-chart-of-michigan.html

          • Exscotticus November 10, 2020 at 12:12 pm #

            >>> recall that the commission he set up to investigate 2016 voter fraud found nothing and disbanded quietly

            That’s not even a proper characterization of what happened.

            The team attempted to get voting data from the states. Many refused to comply. The team disbanded from a lack of cooperation. They had no legal authority to subpoena the data.

            15 states refuse to hand over voter data to Trump Election Fraud commission — 10/2017, Business Insider

            So nothing to do with NOT finding fraud.

            And I think this demonstrates what’s going to happen to Biden. Many states will simply ignore him, his edicts, etc. Proverbial shoe will be on the other foot.

      • thirdcoastlegend November 9, 2020 at 4:34 pm #

        They’re already talking about a Contact Tracing Cheka:

        https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/11/09/joe-biden-proposes-hiring-least-100000-culturally-competent-contact-tracers/

        • Kim November 9, 2020 at 7:31 pm #

          Vote for Joe. He’s a middle-of-the-road guy!

          Turns out America ends up with Joe Stalin.

          • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 8:36 am #

            He’s also tapping the Dubya neocons for help in transition.

            We’re going to get the worst of Obama /and/ the worst of Dubya in an unholy fusion under Madame Harris.

      • SpeedyBB November 14, 2020 at 7:48 am #

        Exscotticus,

        I’m trying hard to remember my American History (not, alas, one of my favorite school subjects) but I seem to think this kind of event must have happened before. And I don’t mean the “Northern War of Aggression”

        The legitimacy of an election has undoubtedly been called into question on more than one occasion.

        Just looking at the 20th Century (my particular area of intense interest) you have cases like the dubious electoral victory which gave Lyndon Johnson his start – with a number of apparently undead voters giving him their support.

        Thus the nickname “Landslide Lyndon” – which stuck.

  6. Mostly Disagreeable November 9, 2020 at 10:02 am #

    Be Angry at the Sun

    That public men publish falsehoods
    Is nothing new. That America must accept
    Like the historical republics corruption and empire
    Has been known for years.

    Be angry at the sun for setting
    If these things anger you. Watch the wheel slope and turn,
    They are all bound on the wheel, these people, those warriors,
    This republic, Europe, Asia.

    Observe them gesticulating,
    Observe them going down. The gang serves lies, the passionate
    Man plays his part; the cold passion for truth
    Hunts in no pack.

    You are not Catullus, you know,
    To lampoon these crude sketches of Caesar. You are far
    From Dante’s feet, but even farther from his dirty
    Political hatreds.

    Let boys want pleasure, and men
    Struggle for power, and women perhaps for fame,
    And the servile to serve a Leader and the dupes to be duped.
    Yours is not theirs.

    Robinson Jeffers, 1941

    • Kim November 9, 2020 at 7:36 pm #

      Struggle for power, and women perhaps for fame,

      Women don’t struggle for fame. Attention for sure. For the resources of the Alpha male, absolutely.

      A line like that, with the “perhaps” in it, especially with such a wisdom-of-the-ages, seer-like tone, doesn’t work at all. Sounds like a guy who doesn’t know women at all.

      And “boys want pleasure”? Really? Is that really characteristic of boys? Not at all. Boys want action. They want wonder. They want change. They want to explore the vistas of their boyish worlds.

      Pleasure? Nah. Sounds very very gay to me. And not in a good way.

      • Mostly Disagreeable November 14, 2020 at 9:27 pm #

        Poetry is not for you, evidently.

  7. bye_then November 9, 2020 at 10:02 am #

    If any of these conspiracy theories held water, Trump would be assembling a massive legal team to contest the results in multiple states.

    Instead, he’s out playing golf while that old perv Rudy Giuliani blows off in a garden centre parking lot.

    As Jake Tapper tweeted:

    “Some say the world will end in fire/
    Others say at Four Seasons Total Landscaping north of the Tacony-Palmyra bridge, near the porn shop”

    • bye_then November 9, 2020 at 10:09 am #

      By rights, Trump should get down on his knees and beg the forgiveness of the American people.

      Then sing a karaoke version of “You’ve Lost That Loving Feeling” while staring into the nation’s eyes.

      (Cue global laughter. And puking.)

      • bluekayak November 9, 2020 at 10:11 am #

        You guys are late for your jizz-swabbing detail at the bath-house. Now knock it of and back to work! Those proto-zygotes aren’t going to mop themselves…

      • SpeedyBB November 14, 2020 at 7:52 am #

        That’s not nice, bye_then.

        On the other hand you’re on the money.

        Couldn’t have happened to a nicer fella.

        From the outset I’ve judged him and all of his actions with his hits on the many small businessmen, contractors, workers he has stiffed or even bankrupted.

        That’s not someone you want for public office – even dogcatcher.

    • Night Owl November 9, 2020 at 10:09 am #

      They began contesting as early as election day.

      Pro tip: You can read about it and watch videos from his lawyers on the Interwebz.

      • bye_then November 9, 2020 at 10:17 am #

        And they’re already losing 0-3. Cases have been dismissed in Michigan, Georgia and Nevada.

        https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-election-legal-challenges-factbox/factbox-trump-sues-in-arizona-court-battles-continue-as-biden-wins-u-s-election-idUKKBN27O0HG

        • Night Owl November 9, 2020 at 10:38 am #

          The McMedia says all kinds of things, only to retract them later.

          LOL.

          • City_of_76 November 9, 2020 at 11:35 am #

            Don’t leave us in the dark, man. Show us the fraud. Or show us your sources. Please, explain what’s going on, convince us that there’s massive voting irregularity.

            As much as anyone, I want there to be secure & accurate voting. We all have an interest in that, unless you’re Donald Trump.

          • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 11:51 am #

            City of 76

            Check out this article which points out statistical anomalies in the “late arriving” ballots. It points to fraud. Of course, you won’t give it any credence because it goes against what you want to see and believe.. But don’t claim there is no evidence.

            https://www.zerohedge.com/political/it-defies-logic-scientist-finds-telltale-signs-election-fraud-after-analyzing-mail-ballot

          • City_of_76 November 9, 2020 at 1:04 pm #

            Thanks for the link, @hmuller. You owe me an apology for projecting that I won’t give it credence.

            First, I question a bit from his last paragraph, “…all of the ballots go through the postal system,” — that’s not correct: many ballots were dropped off in person at poll sites or government/official ballot drop sites.

            I’m not the guy to make sense of that article, but I have a small bit of faith that if the author is pointing to real, verifiable fraud, this will be exposed widely. There may be tens of millions of Biden voters who would hate to see Trump win the election, but even more, I believe those voters, myself included, want to know that our voting system is secure.

            My rough understanding of that article is something discussed frequently before the election: that there was likely to be a “red mirage,” where day-of election tallies favored Republicans, but then the ongoing count of ballots cast by mail/drop off may narrow or erase that lead. That was a reasonable pre-election supposition, and it appears to have been correct.

            Recall that Trump has widely and repeatedly cast doubt on the “legitimacy” of mail-in ballots, although he votes by mail-in ballot himself, and they’ve been in wide use around the country for decades. Before the election, Trump’s set up a scenario to question vote-by-mail, and urged his voters to go to the polls on Nov. 3, and it appears they did.

            Other voters took the option to vote not in person, either dropping off or mailing in their ballots. It’s also an option to drop your ballot in person on election day in some states, and of course there are safeguards to ensure a person can’t vote twice (once by drop-off, once in person). In states like Pennsylvania, the voting laws there forbid the counting of votes before election day (a law passed by state Republicans), so we knew it would take days to tabulate.

            Remember, you don’t need to count every single vote to make a call about how the election is going; and when news organizations make a call, they’re making a reasonable case based on the math of the remaining uncounted ballots, that the winner of the final count is likely to be what they called. You may not believe it, but the big main stream media organizations (television but more importantly the print+web organizations, the old-guards that have been being held to account for many decades) have every incentive to correctly call the election. There is no rational scenario where they benefit from calling the election, for any state, incorrectly. There is always hell to pay when they get it wrong, and a lot of hard lessons were learned in 2016, and again in 2020 (pollsters proven to be nearly useless).

            Also recall that Trump’s postmaster, De Joy, began crushing Post Office capacity in widely reported cases of sorting machine and drop-box removal. Also recall that the number of election day voting sites has, in some places, been reduced by the impacts of Covid-19 (there were wide calls for younger poll workers as the traditional older volunteers declined to participate), as well as deliberate dis-enfranchisement enacted by Republican legislators in some states (e.g., limiting a whole county to only one poll site).

            Reasonable people had a lot of reason to distrust the post office, and, like me, dropped their ballots at an official government drop location – in my case, City Hall. It’s also worth pointing out that early voting can be either by mail (drop your ballot in a Post Office drop box and trust the US Mail to deliver), or can be dropped off in person at an official voting drop-site. (Recall, too, that in California, GOP operatives illegally set up boxes to collect early ballots, going to far as to label them “Official.” They’re in trouble with the state attorney general.)

            I’m not smart enough to fully challenge the Zero Hedge article you link to, but my layman’s understanding is pointing to what we can reasonably surmise about this election: Trump supporters were urged on by Trump to vote in person Nov. 3, after Trump denounced vote-by-mail and his crony William De Joy sabotaged the U.S. Mail, putting its reliability in doubt. Election days votes were tabulated immediately, thus the red mirage. Non-day-of votes, dropped off or mailed in, were Democratic-leaning, because Dems trust the early voting process, and distrusted the De Joy post office debacle.

            Finally, the implausible thing about any claim of widespread fraud is that it would require countless failures across people & systems to occur. Very nearly everyone wants a free, fair and secure election, and some of our good fellow citizens step up to do the actual work involved in sustaining a reliable voting system in their states. This isn’t new — the United States is actually very good at having a vote, despite its many flaws.

            Yes, our voting systems could be better, and yes, we should all demand that they’re the best we can reasonably make it. But was it the site of spectacular fraud that Trump claims? And if it was, how was such a vast conspiracy conducted without detection? This is on par with QAnon aburdities, which are farcical on their face, and disintegrate with the slightest consideration.

            You would need to believe a whole lot of disreputable sources to believe there’s been massive fraud. Many of us live in a world of verifiable truths that is unforgiving to wild claims — this is the real world, of real consequences and physical realities.

          • Night Owl November 9, 2020 at 2:41 pm #

            I have not left you in the dark, man.

            Carefully go through the last few threads and do a search for “Night Owl.”

            You have to use your keyboard and mouse.

          • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 5:31 pm #

            “Very nearly everyone wants a free, fair and secure election”

            – City of 76

            I don’t know what world you live in, 76, but the one I see “everyone wants to win”. And they will cheat, steal, lie, and kill to win.

            Your long missive is so full of unproven assertions, anti-Trump propaganda memes, unwarranted assumptions, prejudice, and just plain bullshit – it would take me at least 5000 words to unravel it. And I don’t want to waste my time showing you how every sentence is wrong. But they all are.

            You must be a professor in some ivory tower or an abbot in a cloister, Because you are really clueless about the real world. I don’t say that as a gratuitous insult. I really mean it as an honest observation.

            And then you really pinned the bullshit meter to max when you wrote:

            “You would need to believe a whole lot of disreputable sources to believe there’s been massive fraud. Many of us live in a world of verifiable truths that is unforgiving to wild claims — this is the real world, of real consequences and physical realities.” -76

            You certainly love variations on the world “real”. Maybe you’re over-compensating for your lack of reality. Do you see how you pontificate? Is your ass sitting on St Peter’s chair?

            Who the fuck says we have to believe “a whole lot of disreputable sources” to believe in election fraud? You do. And having said it, it magically becomes fact. You spin a web of opinion and then convince yourself that you are stating “reality”. Step by step you build your arguments on such opinions presented as facts. OR you’re basing them on what the MSM told you.

            Your arguments are sloppy, specious presentations, sometimes reaching delusional excursions into solipsism. But you do have a nice big vocabulary. You must be highly esteemed in Academia.

    • Exscotticus November 9, 2020 at 11:55 am #

      “If any of these conspiracy theories held water, Trump would be assembling a massive legal team to contest the results in multiple states.”

      Um. He did. Multiple lawsuits filed in multiple states. And the court ruling nullifying voter authentication is a fact, not a theory.

      • Kim November 9, 2020 at 7:40 pm #

        He can’t hear you.

        He has his fingers in his ears, his eyes closed, and he is bouncing around saying “wah wahwaha wah I can’t hear you!”

        • hmuller November 10, 2020 at 11:19 am #

          The WOKE crowd now has new slogans to go with their George Floyd “I can’t breath!”

          “I can’t see!”

          “I can’t hear!”

          “I can’t think!”

    • abbybwood November 9, 2020 at 1:35 pm #

      I think there was a crematorium there also.

      • Kim November 9, 2020 at 7:40 pm #

        @ abbybwood

        Next to the “showers”?

    • its me again November 10, 2020 at 1:47 pm #

      Exactly.

  8. Amman November 9, 2020 at 10:07 am #

    The main Consequence is a great loss of confidence in government by around 50 percent of the population and more. I will play the devils advocate and predict that no one will be prosecuted for anything and the ghostly, unchosen one will enter the White House. If I am proved wrong, I will be amazed.

    • Rulo Deschamps November 9, 2020 at 11:10 am #

      I’m afraid you’re right

    • Exscotticus November 9, 2020 at 11:59 am #

      Probably. But a President surrounded by a cloud of illegitimacy doesn’t have much political capital. If Dems don’t take the Senate, Biden’s a lame duck. He’ll undo Trump’s exec orders and pass his own—which conservative states will ignore.

      And then come the midterms.

      Reps have two years to figure out how Dems stole the election and ensure it doesn’t happen again.

      • Kim November 9, 2020 at 7:42 pm #

        @ Exscotticus

        It is still possible for the Reps to take the House.

        That is how big a landslide the real vote was.

      • Epicur November 10, 2020 at 8:32 am #

        @ Exscotticus

        “Reps have two years to figure out how Dems stole the election and ensure it doesn’t happen again.”

        Consider that they may have figured it out after the commission investigated the 2016 election and have used the “lessons learned” to prepare for the present contest.

        IOW, they were “laying in the bushes” waiting for the Dems to blunder into their trap. They seem to be very well prepared to act.

  9. SW November 9, 2020 at 10:12 am #

    Jennifer “we have a list” Rubin can join forces with AOC “I’m keeping a list” and order their interns to find a nice working model of the former East Berlin Stasi so they can punish everyone “who voted the wrong way” with the efficiency and viciousness they so admire.

    The media has quite effectively silenced all dissent and Biden & Harris are confident it will continue — and they may be right. Even though the Russian horse has been beaten to death, there are still plenty willing to believe it, and that Hunter is the target of a conspiracy theory because Trump is a sore loser. I hope you’re right but I think the fix is in and the best that can be hoped for is to retain control of the Senate.

    • So many liars November 9, 2020 at 10:21 am #

      No doubt the vote manufacturing machines are busy to ensure they steal the Senate as well.

      • abbybwood November 9, 2020 at 1:55 pm #

        I say only hand-counting of all those Senate election votes at the precinct level with bi-partisan groups watching and tabulating the count up close with masks. NO COMPUTERS allowed!

        Back in 2008 I attended the Middletown, CT Republican Straw Poll for President. There were about 600 people there at the Elks Lodge. One giant room with tables and a no-host bar.

        Everyone got the same ballot walking in. Speeches were made then we all voted, handed our ballots to a person at one of the tables with a box and after she dropped the ballot in we had to have our thumbs inked to prove we had already voted.

        An hour later all the ballots were dumped onto the tables and we stood in groups around the tables watching the count.

        Everyone looked over the tabulations and the winner was announced: Ron Paul.

        The next day The Hartford Courant refused to release the fact that Ron Paul beat McCain.

        This is the general direction our elections had better start running. With American citizens as the observers and not some cooked software.

        • Kim November 9, 2020 at 7:43 pm #

          Interesting story.

  10. Tate November 9, 2020 at 10:14 am #

    William Briggs is part of a 7-person team of hastily assembled statisticians over the weekend for purposes of filing legal actions contesting the election.

    https://wmbriggs.com/post/33400/

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  11. brb November 9, 2020 at 10:15 am #

    The DNC is hanging on by a thread these, hence their delusional proclamation of pre-matrure victory.

    Probably part of this strategy is that hope that the 70 million Trump voters react to the blatant vote-couting fraud by violently taking to the streets. Recall, it was the Dem strategists who were trying to prep for a “streetfight”.

    But Trump & his voters are too smart to fall for the ruse. The Election Process will proceed according to the law (including the necessary recounts, investigations and legal resolutions). And in a few weeks it will be the leftitst taking to the streets again to continue burning down their own favorites cities.

    • Linda November 9, 2020 at 2:09 pm #

      In Oregon the Governor finally called in the national guard. But the rioting, looting, arson continues apace. I have never seen anything like this and I’m glad I don’t live in Portland and my city, so far, is just going about its business.

      • Kim November 9, 2020 at 7:45 pm #

        The beatings will continue until morale improves.

  12. hmuller November 9, 2020 at 10:15 am #

    As I recall Obama golfed while American soldiers died in Iraq and Afghanistan. How dare he! No recreation time for Presidents until all problems are solved!

    • Q. Shtik November 9, 2020 at 1:44 pm #

      No recreation time for Presidents until all problems are solved! – hmuller

      =========

      Trump’s game of golf was obviously for optics. A statement that he is unfazed. But you know damn well that down deep he is very fazed. How could he not be?

      • benr November 9, 2020 at 1:57 pm #

        He has publicly stated even bad press is good.
        He likes being talked about and its why he does not care about negative press that would have sent lessor men to the bottle and worse.

        Imagine Obama with 90 percent unfavorable press.

      • Kim November 9, 2020 at 7:47 pm #

        @ Q. Shtik

        How could he not be [fazed]?

        Do you forget that he is Trump?

        He is not like a mere mortal man.

        He is not like you.

        He is a leader.

  13. Zoltar November 9, 2020 at 10:17 am #

    It’s striking how little effort the corporate media make any more to hide the fact that they are all taking the same orders from above.

    On Election Day-plus-one every popular “news” source in the country had the same headline: “Trump Questions Election Results Without Cause.”

    Without cause! Since when is it the prerogative of “journalists” to adjudicate matters of this sort? Did the New York Times have a headline proclaiming that “W Declares War on Iraq Without Cause”? When did WaPo ever trumpet “Obama Drone-Bombs Innocent Woman and Children Without Cause”?

    If our system still possesses a morsel of integrity sorting all of this out will be the mother of all shitstorms, but I am still betting that the Democrats manage to put a lid on every bit of it and proceed to finish off our national slide into oblivion.

    • City_of_76 November 9, 2020 at 10:37 am #

      If you hadn’t noticed, Trump simply said there’s been massive fraud, and failed to provide a shred of evidence. He’s got nothing but allegations. Even his lawyers, when speaking before judges in recent days, present zero evidence, and they cases have been dismissed.

      Trump’s team is just running his scam, as usual. It’s weird that Trumpoholics don’t see what a con-man Trump is. His bullshit falls apart upon scrutiny, as has happened consistently through his life. It’s a sad comment on America that so many people still support him. Anyway, the rest of us are moving and are prepared to deal with reality.

      Here’s where the allegations stand, legally:

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-irregularities-claims/2020/11/08/8f704e6c-2141-11eb-ba21-f2f001f0554b_story.html

      • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 10:51 am #

        Citing the Washington Post as a source of truth. Haha You crack me up. Has Jeff Bezos and his canary latrine yet admitted the existence of Hunter Biden;’s laptop? Did they reveal what was in it?

        • draupnir November 9, 2020 at 11:52 am #

          I’ve seen some of what is on it, but watching Hunter Biden pulling his flaccid putz gets boring pretty quickly.

          • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 12:59 pm #

            Hunter should live in the White House yard in a dog house. You watched it? You rock! You are a true heroine. You did it so we won’t have to.

      • Jeremy November 9, 2020 at 11:07 am #

        It’s a sad comment on America that so many people still get their news, and views, from the Washington Post.

      • Zoltar November 9, 2020 at 11:18 am #

        Your source is WaPo! hee hee

      • Kim November 9, 2020 at 7:55 pm #

        @ City_of_76

        The Washington Compost?

        Get out of here with that digital birdcage liner.

        With the exception of Green Alba, people here have brains. Your gaslighting-fu is miserable. Who is doing your training, Jesse Smollett?

        JS (faggy voice): They were yelling that this was MAGA country! They had a noose and made me put it on. See, I’m still wearing it now four hours later. Do you think it goes with my eyes?

        They were big and mean and a bit hunky and I was sure they would hurt me and I don’t mean that in a good way but you know what I mean, they were Trump supporters!

        Oh someone saaaaaave me!

        Hit the road, troll.

        • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 10:19 pm #

          You know I was in college before I learned that someone could be both black and gay. A lot of things were not discussed much then, especially in white suburbia.

          Priests were celibate, Boy Scout leaders could be trusted, mothers stayed home, Pat Nixon wore a cloth coat, and everyone believed in God. Sigh.

        • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 10:31 pm #

          He kept the noose on while waiting for the police. One is reminded of Crystal Magnum smeared with shit laying in alley – she was waiting for someone to find her.

          Imagine if they put his much effort into bettering themselves.

          • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 11:33 pm #

            What do you think, Yohannon, did Jusse dream up his attention getting stunt on his own? Or did someone higher up with an agenda encourage him?

          • Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 12:49 am #

            He comes from Black Civil Rights Royalty, his mother an activist and friend of Angela Davis. I assume he wanted to become part of that somehow and not just a gay actor or whatever he is. So he dreamed up something really stupid and embarrassed himself and his family. Again, fraud is fine in their book if its well done and if it works. But it didn’t.

    • Rulo Deschamps November 9, 2020 at 11:14 am #

      Zoltar, spot on. When someone quotes chapter and verse of the NYT to me, I’m always curious to know if it’s the same NYT that published Judith Miller’s conclusion that Iraq had, in fact, pursued yellowcake for its WMD. I get crickets.

      • benr November 9, 2020 at 2:04 pm #

        No denying a couple hundred tons of yellow cake went to Canada eh.

  14. City_of_76 November 9, 2020 at 10:20 am #

    Regarding the “late” votes in Pennsylvania, here’s what the Washington Post reports:

    “And it succeeded in getting Supreme Court Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr. to issue an order that election officials must separate ballots that arrived after Election Day but before Friday evening — a step that counties have already taken. Under an earlier ruling by the state Supreme Court, election officials may tally those ballots, which are a tiny fraction of the overall vote, but state officials have ordered them to be kept segregated in case of further legal challenges.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-election-irregularities-claims/2020/11/08/8f704e6c-2141-11eb-ba21-f2f001f0554b_story.html

    • UN OUT OF USA November 9, 2020 at 11:48 am #

      City_of_76, its you who needs to pull your head out of your ass and stop quoting the treasonous POS WaPo here. We don’t believe a damn thing that it says. If you had half a brain, you would realize its bias and look to get your information from alternate sources (like the rest of us do). Now run along and get your obviously terminal case of TDS treated ASAP. You’re going to need that fixed when Trump, once again, triumphs against all odds. This election was STOLEN and we are NOT going to allow that to happen without a fight.

      • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 12:20 pm #

        Bravo!

      • City_of_76 November 9, 2020 at 1:45 pm #

        Instead of insulting me, why not try to enlighten me? I read widely and I’m eager to learn. Share your sources, please.

        I will note that a common response I get from Trumpoholics is to insult and shut me out; there is almost never any attempt to show me the way. This aligns with commentary I’ve read about the Trump cult, which thrives on the fantasy that they have a special insight into the news, and any viewpoint that doesn’t share that “insider” viewpoint is disparaged as “fake news.” That kind of juvenile thinking may get you friends at a Trump rally, but in the complex world of running a functional government, verifiable truths that hold up under scrutiny and investigation — like some products of science and technology — are the basis for informed decision making. No truth, no deal.

        In fact, I do realize that Washington Post, like all human endeavor, has bias. It’s not my only source; it’s one of many that I pay for (both for-profit and non-profit news sources), because I recognize that reporting is real work that requires financial support. The “free” press is essential to our democracy, and it’s incumbent on us to support it. (Pay for news before you pay for TV, that’s my credo).

        Trump does not triumph against all odds, and I’m not making a prediction. His history is pocked with failure and scandal. He won in 2016 by losing the popular vote. The man is not a winner, by any definition, let alone for someone born into wealth and who’s leveraged every advantage available to bellowing white guys of his generation.

        • benr November 9, 2020 at 2:15 pm #

          After whining about how you are treated you then proceed to rant about popular vote as if that has EVER been a metric for winning a Presidential race.
          Further that 3 million popular vote meme has lost its luster since up to five million voters were stricken off the rolls since then as being ineligible in California alone.
          You further prove ignorance by claiming America is a Democracy when we are a Republic to be more specific a Representative Republic.

          Do some research and stop playing the martyr as its very unattractive.

          • its me again November 10, 2020 at 1:52 pm #

            So did Biden win Florida? Did the Dems kick ass in the House? Take the Senate? No, no and no. Wow, that’s so horrible MASSIVE voter fraud. Ha…ha..,ha…

        • Soul Forensics November 9, 2020 at 2:19 pm #

          “Share your sources please.”

          Ah, the longer-winded, ‘reasonable’, “I just want to understand” troll. Much more clever than the one-line scatological drive-by ones.

          Here’s a hint. The last few CFN threads have been scored with links to the Dem chicanery. You could, oh I don’t know, actually click on a few of them?

          • Night Owl November 9, 2020 at 2:31 pm #

            But then he couldn’t continue to ask for evidence.

            Mind blown.

          • City_of_76 November 9, 2020 at 4:10 pm #

            I was asking for links regarding evidence to support Trump’s claims of massive voter fraud. Night Owl referred me to his posts in recent Kunstler blogs, and I’ve compiled all the links he provided in another post here. I don’t have the energy to go back beyond Nov. 3 at this point; so sue me. But what I’ve seen so far is questionably condemning, and I eagerly await the court cases that refer to this “evidence” and the subsequent rulings.

            You all attack me with so much fervor. Try some manners, OK, please? Civility is actually a good thing. Bashing everyone you may disagree with just erodes your humanity.

          • City_of_76 November 9, 2020 at 4:19 pm #

            Here’s BuzzFeed News’ take on election fraud so far:

            https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/janelytvynenko/election-rumors-debunked

            Given that anything goes and nothing matters around here, I figured I’d share it.

          • Soul Forensics November 9, 2020 at 4:34 pm #

            BuzzFeed. Seriously?

            I went through the Nov 3 and Nov 4 ‘findings’ just to humour myself.

            Most of the Nov 3 six contentions follow the logical fallacy of dumping (love that word in this context) frivolous anti-Dem reports in with much more damning and factually adroit findings. To put this in a different context, if an anti-Trumper takes a video of a purported BLM or Antifa guy singing “We Shall Overcome” while linked arm-in-arm with other non-violent confreres, it doesn’t prove that there was no widespread looting, targeted destruction, and violent attacks on police and desperate business owners just trying to protect their stores.

          • Night Owl November 9, 2020 at 5:25 pm #

            Try again, but with your computer.

        • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 5:56 pm #

          City of 76
          You say you want enlightenment, but you sound like someone whose opinions are well set in concrete.

          If you actually want to know how we crazy people think, take a look at a book “The Answer” by David Icke. I’m not saying believe it. Consider it research into understanding another culture you never knew was out there. From explaining the physics of the universe to mind, history, human culture, social institutions, and global power structures this book takes an unconventional view – way outside the Overton window..

          You’ll no doubt throw it against the wall time and again, screaming, “No, that’s not the way things are. That’s not what I was taught.” But you may realize there’s more than one way to look at something; perhaps even a better way than you were taught.

          • MoleMan November 9, 2020 at 9:21 pm #

            Here’s a quote from Icke’s book:

            ““The reason we are so controlled is not that we don’t have the power to decide our own destiny, it is that we give that power away every minute of our lives. When something happens that we don’t like, we look for someone else to blame. When there is a problem in the world, we say “What are they going to do about it”. At which point they, who have secretly created the problem in the first place, respond to this demand by introducing a ‘solution’ – more centralisation of power and erosion of freedom. If you want to give more powers to the police, security agencies and military, and you want the public to demand you do it, then ensure there is more crime, violence and terrorism, and then it’s a cinch to achieve your aims. Once the people are in fear of being burgled, mugged or bombed, they will demand that you take their freedom away to protect them from what they have been manipulated to fear. The Oklahoma bombing is a classic of this kind, as I detail in ..And The Truth Shall Set You Free. I call this technique problem-reaction-solution.

            Create the problem, encourage the reaction “something must be done”, and then offer the solution. It is summed up by the Freemason motto ‘Ordo Ab Chao’ -order out of chaos. Create the chaos and then offer the way to restore order. Your order. The masses are herded and directed by many and varios forms of emotional and mental control. It is the only way it coud be done.”

            *When something happens we don’t like, we look for someone else to blame

            *Create the problem, encourage the reaction “something must be done”, and then offer the solution. It is summed up by the Freemason motto ‘Ordo Ab Chao’ -order out of chaos. Create the chaos and then offer the way to restore order. Your order.

            Phew–good thing that doesn’t at all sound like the tactics of the GG of Greatness!

          • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 10:27 pm #

            Thanks for the quote, Mole Man. Yes David Icke is anti-Trump;, and anti-globalist and against just about everyone of any political stripe in power. He distrusts them all. I say Bravo; we need more questioning, less obedience.

          • FreddieMars November 10, 2020 at 11:21 am #

            David “The World Is Run By Shape-shifting Lizard People” Icke? THAT David Icke? Res ipsa loquitur…

          • hmuller November 11, 2020 at 12:42 am #

            FreddieMars,
            An enlightened person examines the beliefs of hundreds of thinkers, keeping what he deems good, discarding what is not. Do you embrace the thoughts of anyone else 100%? I hope not. The wise course is to pick and chose.

            Have you read any David Icke, or just bought into the group think hatred generated against him by the WOKE crowd?

        • Kim November 9, 2020 at 7:59 pm #

          @ City_of_76

          Instead of insulting me, why not try to enlighten me? I read widely and I’m eager to learn. Share your sources, please.

          I read widely. Haahahahhaha! Excellent.

          “I read widely. I read the Washington Post and the NYT.”

          That reminds me of that gag:

          “I like all kinds of music. Country and Western.”

        • Amman November 12, 2020 at 3:47 pm #

          The World is for Trump. We can still smell a rat.

      • its me again November 10, 2020 at 1:49 pm #

        You lost old man. Deal with it.

  15. shox November 9, 2020 at 10:23 am #

    “The news media’s strategy here, you understand, is to overcome reality by main force….”

    Very well said. Typical tactic straight out of the Joseph Goebbels and Marxism/Leninism propaganda handbooks: “A lie repeated often enough becomes the truth.”

    Let’s hope the American people collectively have the intellectual honesty enough not to succumb to the noise and clamor, and that enough of them will be devoted to uncovering this ghastly truth of literally the largest voter fraud in US history.

    I am staggered and appalled at the sheer brazenness and cynicism of the Democrats to pull something this large and consequential. It shows their utter contempt for the rule of law, and it betrays their secret belief that they are above it and not subject to it. Truly, hatred for Trump has driven them insane.

    If Biden is indeed inaugurated, you can rest assured that the American people (whether they openly admit it or not) will NEVER again believe in any of the institutions of government ever again. They have all been infiltrated, contaminated and subverted by regressive “progressivism.” Just as in the former Soviet states, you will see a new wave of cynicism and bad faith sweeping through society, as the underclass finally reads the true nature and intentions of the ruling class and decides to get in on the game themselves.

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    • Jack Mehoff II November 9, 2020 at 10:30 am #

      Oh, hardly – most understand that the system, while under extreme stress from a demented autocrat, indeed held and delivered us a decent pair to lead.

      The stock market is liking trump’s exit…

      • Zoltar November 9, 2020 at 10:36 am #

        “A decent pair to lead.” My, Jack, but you have remarkably low standards.

      • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 10:36 am #

        The stock market loves to vacuum up newly created money like Larry Kudlow’s nose loves to vacuum up ……….(you can probably guess)

        Is that how you measure success, Jackoff? By what the stock market does? You sound just like Trump. LOL

        • Rulo Deschamps November 9, 2020 at 11:18 am #

          The stock market is not the measure of anything anymore. It’s fiction. Powerful fiction that fattens bank accounts, but fiction nevertheless. It’s the only place where the fictional $ being created can go to spawn more fictional $. Many have said this can’t go on, yet it does. I stopped paying attention. Just stay as far away from it as I can.

      • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 11:58 am #

        Colonel Jackoff measures the success of his Communist coup by referencing the stock market. That says it all I think.

        Capitalism/Communism was always headed this way. National Socialism was always the answer. If the system lasts. If it falls, then we’re back to strong man stuff and monarchy. Maybe little republics here and there. Many cultures have councils of respected elders who vote on things or even for a leader. Proto-Republicanism.

        • Kim November 9, 2020 at 8:02 pm #

          There is no perfect politics but when push comes to shove I am more of a Falangist myself.

          Of course, if you like what America has been getting these last 100 years, you may prefer democracy.

          • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 10:28 pm #

            Christian Fascism? Nice. But what of Pagan Wisdom anent race? Or can a master play his best music on a beat up old fiddle? The vehicle matters, not just the soul.

          • FreddieMars November 10, 2020 at 8:36 pm #

            “anent” – there it is.

    • Kim November 9, 2020 at 8:01 pm #

      @ shox

      Actually when he said that Goebbels was referring to the jews. Oops.

      • shox November 10, 2020 at 3:22 am #

        If this is true, fine. But Goebbels still committed the same sin as the Jews who he spoke disparagingly of. When was there ever a counter-balancing narrative on Nazi media outlets? Likewise with Soviet countries.

  16. City_of_76 November 9, 2020 at 10:29 am #

    It’s so hard to commit voter fraud on any scale that matters that it’s simply not worth it. The U.S. has a “good enough” voting system (nothing’s perfect) and we can be assured the vote was secure, free and fair.

    Some background reading:

    https://www.voanews.com/usa/us-politics/voter-fraud-extremely-rare-hard-accomplish-researchers-say

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/opinion/trump-voter-fraud-pennsylvania.html

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/10/28/if-theres-conspiracy-swing-election-its-one-alleging-not-committing-voter-fraud/

    https://theconversation.com/6-ways-mail-in-ballots-are-protected-from-fraud-145666

    https://www.npr.org/2016/10/25/499274789/rigging-an-election-its-not-so-easy-voting-law-expert-says

    The ridiculous claims of widespread voter fraud in the 2020 election that Trump makes are part and parcel of his insane narcissism and inability to face difficult truths.

    • Night Owl November 9, 2020 at 10:36 am #

      “This list of Fake News citations will surely lend my comment legitimacy.”

      • City_of_76 November 9, 2020 at 10:41 am #

        Please do share your extensive list of non-fake news. I’m eager to ascend to your heights of comprehension.

      • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 10:46 am #

        City of 76 thinks one can answer specific charges with generalities and truisms. Example:

        Witness: I saw John and farmer Brown arguing. Then John pulled out a knife and stabbed farmer Brown in the neck.

        Defense Attorney: But John is Amish. They don’t even punch people, much less stab them. You must be wrong.

        Witness: No, you’re not listening. I saw what I saw. I was 10 feet away. I have blood splatters on my clothes.

        Defense Attorney: Nope. I have a book right here that says Amish people are non-violent, John is Amish, ergo John is non-violent. Can’t you follow logic, rube?

        And thus “intelligent people” answer specific incidents with empty generalities while waving a plethora of articles and books to prove their case.

        • Sean Coleman November 9, 2020 at 11:31 am #

          I remember our teacher at school praising a television advert for the Guardian newspaper. A respectable looking man is attacked by a long-haired lout and thrown tot he ground. But the shot widens to show that the yob had actually done this to push him out of the way of a bus (or something). The Guardian saw things from every angle. Irritating cliché, and that was nearly fifty years ago when things were not as bad as they are now. The Left would be amazed to discover how dopey they are, but they are too stupid to notice.

          • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 12:02 pm #

            Blacks who play the knockout game are really highly trained brain surgeons who are trying to slow or stop brain tumors in their White “victims”.

          • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 12:11 pm #

            I never thought of it that way. Maybe Kamala will honor them with public awards ceremonies in the rose garden. Such a lovely lady. I call her Oprah-lite.

          • Soul Forensics November 9, 2020 at 2:29 pm #

            The further hilarious irony in “show me the evidence” trolling (or complete delusional never-Trumpism) is that the evidence recorded is of mathematical inviolability.

            It’s like the Critical Race Theory idiots widening their attacks from the Humanities to the hard sciences.

      • Kim November 9, 2020 at 8:03 pm #

        @ Night Owl

        Ha ha ha. Really laughed.

    • Mostly Disagreeable November 9, 2020 at 11:44 am #

      The best way to ensure election integrity is just laugh off all these concerns about mail-in ballots, software “glitches,” etc.

      • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 6:07 pm #

        Yup, my uncle always said “laughter is the best medicine”. Too bad none of his kids reached adulthood.

        You make an excellent point, Mostly Disagreeable. The repeated memes are to mock the very idea that election fraud could exist on a large scale. I can’t imagine it, so it’s unreal, End of argument.

        Then there’s the taunt “Oh you’re just mad because you lost, so you’ll believe what you want to believe.” Excuse me, and you folks don’t believe only what you want to believe?

        • Kim November 9, 2020 at 8:06 pm #

          The two great accusations of the commie gaslighters:

          1) You are not mentally stable if you disagree with me

          2) People will think you are not mentally stable if you disagree with me

          I would like to light them. With gas or on a pile of wood. All the same to me.

          • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 11:58 pm #

            I hear you, Kim. I often encounter articles online (aggressively promoted by the social media moguls) about how people in the freedom movement are mentally deranged racists consumed by conspiracy theory delusions.

            Of course, the author is always a 20-something snowflake who doesn’t know shit from shinola. Someone who believes the Constitution has a clause suspending all rights if there’s a flu bug going around.

            And Qanon really makes their heads spin around and spew green projectile vomit. Again, never having researched the topic, they speak with the authority lent them by officialdom and the MSM.

            Some people will take any job to get out of the parents’ basement.

    • draupnir November 9, 2020 at 12:00 pm #

      Here in Minnesota, a friend of mine served as a poll observer, as he did in 2016. He says that while he wasn’t denied entrance, as has been the case in other places, he was required by the election judge to sit in a chair the entire time. This was not on the list of rules he was given, and this was not the case in 2016.

      • its me again November 10, 2020 at 1:55 pm #

        Oh boo hoo. That’s such fraud!

    • Bytes November 9, 2020 at 4:42 pm #

      Why don’t you read over at The Automatic Earth today and see if any of the evidence for this election fraud makes any sense to you.

      And just as a test of whether you are a true Dem partisan, did you think the Dems, the FBI, and/or Hillary did anything wrong when Trump was elected? If you don’t, your partisan views are completely irrelevant as you are not open to the facts.

      • FreddieMars November 10, 2020 at 8:43 pm #

        Bytes

        Being ‘open to the facts’ doesn’t necessarily mean ‘buying’ YOUR alternative facts (which is often just a POV), but a readiness to ask questions & listen. However, even THAT simple & open approach can get you “troll”-stamped round here.

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 10, 2020 at 11:42 am #

      The media (and yourself) keep using the term “widespread voter fraud” in the attempt to make it sound like every vote had to be tampered with.

      It doesn’t have to be widespread. It just has to happen where it matters, (exactly WI, GA, PA, AZ, NV)

      Just took vote counting to be halted at 2am (which has never happened before), and then suddenly start again at 4am with a fresh load of ballots (nearly all for Biden…literally all for Biden in some counties).

      The widespread terminology needs to be retired. Pretty easy to lie and skirt “Widespread” accountability when no one’s around to see what one or two people did.

  17. izzy November 9, 2020 at 10:35 am #

    As a long-time reader generally in sympathy with your observations, it’s hard not to notice that, so far, general-consensus reality never manages to fully catch up. It would be beyond refreshing to have all this garbage out in the clear light of day where we can finally see it. But the lump under the carpet just keeps getting bigger. I await a catharsis.

    • Disaffected November 9, 2020 at 10:48 am #

      I await a cardiac arrest personally, but I’ve always kept my expectations low so as to avoid disappointment.

  18. John1945 November 9, 2020 at 10:37 am #

    🙂

    Poor dimwit woman has a list.
    If you are on this list she will pelt you with gory tampons.
    She will burn her bra in protest in the best ’60s tradition
    Also she has on a leash a couple of ghetto rats & LGBT freaks.
    They will growl and hiss at you and demand reparations.

    Why everything Dem Devils do is so mean and disgusting ?

    Roman dictator Sulla came up with the idea of “proscription lists”
    2000 Roman Lefties were executed by the People.
    And-what is even more important-their property was put to good use.
    In Medieval Germany it was called declare a person “vogelfrei”
    Worked like a charm.

    Mr.Trump should do what Sulla did.
    Then shut down the Gov without pay.
    And go play golf in FL for a couple of years.

    • Rulo Deschamps November 9, 2020 at 11:22 am #

      Hm, disagree. I’m reading about Sulla, actually. Violence only creates more violence. The book is “Rubicon – the last years of the Roman Republic”, by Tom Holland. Recommended.

      • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 12:06 pm #

        Once the violence is out the tube, it can’t be put back in again. The Left has ruined our political process. And by not responding in kind, we do not change that. If you don’t respond, you get beat up. And more timid souls give up. Thus they win. It’s a trap? Yes, no way out but through.

        The Tree of Liberty is thirsty….

      • John1945 November 9, 2020 at 12:20 pm #

        I listened to this book on audio.
        Maybe it is a matter of taste but I do not like Mr.Holland’ breezy pop style.
        I reverted to re-reading “A History of the Roman Republic” by Cyril Robinson,an old Oxford curmudgeon.

        Another ultra-smart Oxford cat Sir Ronald Syme wrote “Roman Revolution” where power struggles between factions are explored in depth.Heavy going but well worth the effort.

        =Violence only creates more violence.=

        DA PO-liiiice arresting blacks is so violent.
        Abolish the police and there will be no more crime and violence.

        • Rulo Deschamps November 9, 2020 at 3:02 pm #

          John, thank you for those recommendations. I’ll check them out. History books & Bourbon are my poisons of choice. And you’re right, Holland’s book has a “pop” style! I had not thought of it that way, but still think it’s pretty good in terms of catching your attention and telling a story. “Ennui was was an affliction unknown to the Republic. Seneca, writing in the reign of Nero, at a time when the ideals of the Republic had long atrophied, when to be the best was to risk immediate execution, when all that was left to the nobility was to keep their heads down and tend to their pleasures, could distinguish the symptoms very well. ‘They began to seek dishes’, he wrote of men such as Lucullus and Hortensius, ‘not to remove but to stimulate the appetite’. The fish-fanciers, sitting by their ponds and gazing into their depths, were tracing shadows darker than they understood” – Pop or no, still good writing, eh?

        • Rulo Deschamps November 9, 2020 at 3:13 pm #

          I forgot to mention that I support the police and oppose burn, loot & murder, of course. If the police could apply the level of violence necessary to control the riots without political interference, that would put an end to the original violence, true. So my statement that violence only generates more violence needs some nuance. Perhaps that society accepts its use, and delegates it in public servants to preserve the lives and livelihoods of others, and that, as a poster memorably said here last week, “there’s always been some people that need to be kicked hard and thrown in jail for a while”, or something to that effect. I guess I meant political violence. Sulla, Clodius, Pompeius, all the actors of the Roman Civil Wars thought their massacres and beatings and such would quell their opponents’ appetite for trouble – they didn’t, they just spiraled into an endless cycle of retribution that destroyed the Republic.

          • John1945 November 9, 2020 at 4:44 pm #

            🙂

            “rex nolunt diu male administrari”
            things refuse to be mismanaged long

            =Pop or no, still good writing, eh?=

            Yes it is. “Roman Revolution” nonetheless is more brutal,actual and down to earth.Sort of military AAR or After Action Report.

            Sir Ronald Syme book caused a furor in 1939.
            While everybody back then was supposed to pray to the New God of Democracy this cat proved beyond the reasonable doubt that Democracy & Constitution are fig leafs covering pure struggle for power.

          • Kim November 9, 2020 at 8:10 pm #

            @ John1945

            Ronald Syme? I am intrigued.Thanks.

        • Kim November 10, 2020 at 6:36 am #

          Syme, “Roman Revolution” is available for download at archive.org at this link:

          https://archive.org/details/in.ernet.dli.2015.73667

    • MiddlePeninsula November 9, 2020 at 12:28 pm #

      Calling her a dimwit is too kind. She must have been cutting class in college. Free this, free that – who and how will this be paid for? Money created from thin air debases the currency. The problem with socialists is they think when it goes down, they will end up on top. Doesn’t always shake out that way.

    • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 12:58 pm #

      Yes John1945

      Jennifer Rubin is making a list,
      She’s checking it twice,
      She knows who’s been naughty or nice,
      Globalist tyranny is coming to town,

      But we know what goes around, comes around.
      Jennifer may wind up on a list, too.

      • GreenAlba November 9, 2020 at 1:29 pm #

        She may be remembered as Jennifer Rubespierre, then?

        • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 6:18 pm #

          Hi GA, you reminded me of a story from history. Indulge me.

          After Louis the 16th was crowned in 1775, the royal carriage made a tour around Paris with appointed stops, speeches, greetings, well-wishes, you know, that whole kabuki dance.

          Of course, speeches ran over the time allotted. So as it got late, the royal couple had to trim the schedule. At one orphanage a teen-aged boy (brightest of the bunch) waited to give them the speech he had written. He knelt in the mud as the royal carriage approached. It barely slowed down, the royals waved, and drove on. Orphans were a low priority stop. That humiliated boy was Robespierre, and you know the rest of the story.

          • GreenAlba November 9, 2020 at 7:17 pm #

            It seems to be a pattern, indeed, hm.

  19. Rodster November 9, 2020 at 10:45 am #

    I hate to break it to JHK that you can try and be hopeful that things will work out the way he wants it to be but that’s not how it works in Banana Republic land of the Free.

    The USA has been a Banana Republic for decades now. The big difference now, is that they are no longer trying to hide it.

    • Rodster November 9, 2020 at 10:47 am #

      So expect Biden to be sworn in as POTUS and the Dems going after Trump even threatening jail time. That’s what happens in a Banana Republic.

      • Night Owl November 9, 2020 at 10:50 am #

        Fear porn.

        Consooom the McMedia. Spread da fear.

  20. Pucker November 9, 2020 at 10:51 am #

    The Australian perspective.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uErY5RJ76Os

    Matt Taibbi said that when he went to bed on election night that he had assumed that Trump would win and that he was surprised to discover the next morning that the voting tends in swing states had suddenly and dramatically reversed in favor of Biden. But Taibbi didn’t openly express the logical conclusion of potential fraud or voting impropriety.

    It’s very obvious.

    It looks like they spent the last 4 years brainwashing everyone into thinking that Trump was Hitler/ a Russian Stooge. Never mind that these are contradictory ideas. It’s hilarious that Trump made significant inroads with black and Latino voters because they don’t want to compete with the cheap immigrant labor. Now that Trump may be out of the way (which is not a foregone conclusion) the Democrats will have nothing to unite them, and they will turn on each other with a corrupt senile old fart at the helm. Meanwhile, Trump will lead a United invigorated opposition. Huge power Vacuum as the financial system and the economy implodes. Very dangerous….

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    • Night Owl November 9, 2020 at 10:57 am #

      The error in your thinking is that the people behind the fraud do not care about this. The Uniparty is the globalist machine. The chaos is planned and will be dealt initially with through COVID-based medical tyranny.

  21. Rulo Deschamps November 9, 2020 at 10:57 am #

    Perhaps Mr K is right, but I think the election is probably a fait accompli at this point. I never completely trusted election results, at least since technology’s takeover in the early 2000’s. You punch a screen, then poof, who’s to know where those bytes went. Voting by mail, ironically, at least left a paper trail, so was in my view a superior choice. It seems clear that route got compromised in this election too.
    How compromised? Can it be proved? I dunno. There’s a powerful firewall that has emerged in the last few years. Monolithic opposition to Mr Trump’s policies, including flat out censorship. It would be hard enough to break through the Great Wall of social and mainstream media with blockbuster evidence of hundreds of thousands of votes stolen – impossible with a few hundred, a bad post office employee here, a privateering social worker there, and so on. That won’t cut it. Mr Kunstler’s army of computer geeks better be good, since technology, like the Bible, can be made to say whatever those wielding it want it to say. Traces disappear, results change…
    The big picture hasn’t changed. Worldwide, water sources, timber, fisheries, energy resources, biodiversity are all fading. Trump and Biden supporters alike drink from single use plastic bottles without a thought, mobilize the energy of a whole village to take Bratleigh to soccer practice and swing by Target for frozen pizza. Trump and Biden supporters spend a scary number of hours each day watching endless entertainments on Netflix and smartphones. Trump and Biden voters are prey to the same whips punishing the social body, porn, drugs, easy $ on robinhood, cheap Chinese junk, an ever expanding money and debt supply. Well, you get the picture. I hate to sound like Cato. But none of that crap is going away, and in fact we are adding new punishments to destroy ourselves. The most troubling one may be this new Balkanization along ethnic lines, with White people as the ultimate evil responsible for all that’s wrong in the world. I’m an adopted citizen, and sometimes I startle people here with the fact that Whites are a global minority of maybe 10-15%. I suppose some people in this country assume that the world is more or less the same as the US in that a White majority oppresses everybody else. That’s not so. Majority White areas are scarcer and scarcer. Maybe that’s the way it must be, I don’t argue against demographics. Whites and everybody else have skeletons in their closets. But to demonize a people, wholesale, demand apologies and reparations… that’s a whole other thing. And in any case, will this polemic do anything to stop the plastic apocalypse, the collapse of whole ecosystems? No, but it’s a good distraction from the fact that by creating unlimited $ in a finite world, we are guaranteeing that the last elephant will be poached for his ivory, because with so many billionaires, what’s to stop a few from offering any price for anything?
    Another couple thoughts and I’ll leave the floor to the many interesting commenters that populate this forum. I haven’t had a TV in decades, but I was vaguely aware of a show business persona called DJT. Never liked him. Never liked his freak family posing with hunted game in Africa, his ego and crass adoration of gold, his bragging, his slithery son-in-law and sycophants, his trophy wives, his ignorance and bad faith in business. Still, I voted for him as the lesser of two evils. My dear wife went the other way, and I’m grateful and proud to say that unlike so many other American families, we didn’t split or take offense over it. She asked me, “what do you think Trump’s biggest achievement was”, and my first answer was, “to attack and expose critical race theory for the dangerous bullshit it is”. My second, “to bare his fangs to China, finally”. My third, “to try and control immigration”. Well, others kept appearing, and we all have our favorites. Also, his biggest mistakes. He made a few of those, too.
    At this point all this may be water under the bridge. It will be very hard to come back from the opprobium and propaganda and well placed, hard to detect minifrauds and uniform opposition from the media. A lot of people genuinely hate the guy, but I’m thankful he at least started the conversation. It was all too one sided before him: R & D basically pushed for the same things. Maybe he’ll just golf. Or maybe he’ll split the Republican Party, now that it’s become clear about half of it never liked his policies (not just him) in the first place. Create an America First party, draw support from both D & R’s sick and tired of their parties, and help bring about the destruction of those anachronisms that JHK has so often foreseen.
    In any case, I am now more convinced than ever that I did the right thing so many years ago when I first read JHK’s books, quitting the rat race to focus on sustainable farming and permaculture, giving up wasting time in front of screens (except this one!) and putting it into learning the art and science of farming, investing what little $ I had in good land and good water away from population centers and in a solidly red state. Thank you, Mr Kunstler, for those books and for this website. You put me on the right track, and I appreciate it.

    • volodya November 9, 2020 at 11:23 am #

      Great comment, well thought out.

      Post more of these please.

      • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 12:08 pm #

        High quality “give up” porn. Volly likes!

  22. foxnews69 November 9, 2020 at 11:05 am #

    First. I think that Mr. Kunstler, the same as the Clinton supporters four years ago, cannot cope with defeat. Mr. Trump lost to Biden fair and square the same way that Mrs. Clinton lost to Trump four years ago. There was no Russia collusion then the same way that there was no mail in ballot fraud now. Be a little more mature and accept the defeat of your candidate.

    Second. I don’t buy at all the story that Mr. Kunstler voted in favor of Mr. Trump because both Mr. Kunstler and Mr. Trump support the rule of law. The reality is that both Mr. Trump as well as Mr. Biden are crooks so Mr. Kunstler is just choosing the crook that favors his political interests better.

    Third. The real reason for Mr. Kunstler’s support of Mr. Trump is that Mr. Kunstler is a sionist and that Mr. Trump has given the sionist entity everything they wanted. Mr. Trump has been a puppet of Netanyahu and his ilk in Middle East foreign policy. That is the sole reason for Mr. Kunstler’s visceral support to a madman like the 1930’s madman the sionists pretend so much to hate.

    Fourth. Some of Mr. Kunstler’s support to the “rule of law” like in issues of immigration (he seems to have a visceral hatred to the immigrant) and his support to a brutal and sometimes fascist police (he also seems to have a visceral hatred for blacks) is because both the immigrant and the murdered black are victims. The former are victims of explotation and violence in their countries (promoted by Mr. Kunstler’s sionist banker friends and sponsors) and the later victims of a repressive regime that has nothing to do with “rule of law” (unless you are white, blue eyed and, well to do). But why does being a victim is a cause for being a target of Mr. Kunstler’s hatred? Because victims are competition. Remember that jewish sionists want to have a monopoly of suffering so that they ask for “compensation” for the suffering that ended in 1945.

    Please don’t be fooled by Mr. Kuntler’s care for democracy. The only thing a sionist cares for is for their agenda and the money they extract from the “goim” in the process. And please don’t support his patreon page. There are more people in this world that need support than a second class journalist that pretends to understand the world sitting in his pajamas in his upstate New York house.

    I’m going to leave this scurrilous link up just to inform people what kind of darkness lurks ‘out there’ but Foxnews won’t be coming back. — JHK Admin

    • Jeremy November 9, 2020 at 11:12 am #

      Jim – please remove the disgustingly racist post above. This blog doesn’t need to sink that low.

      • So many liars November 9, 2020 at 11:36 am #

        Agreed, that is offensive.

        • Mostly Disagreeable November 9, 2020 at 11:47 am #

          Odd locutions, too.

          • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 12:02 pm #

            I noticed that, too. The alternate spelling “Sionist” is European. Other phraseology indicates the writer is not a native English speaker. But very close to passing for one.

          • Tate November 9, 2020 at 12:35 pm #

            No you have to put the profile in focus, forget the spellings. He/she/zhe probably has a doctorate in critical race theory with a matching color scheme.

    • King of Comedy November 9, 2020 at 11:29 am #

      Ah, old Foxnews above, no doubt a committed SJW and “ally” of the oppressed™ goes immediately for the Jew hatred with a little hating on whitey thrown in for good measure. As predictable as the sun rising.

      For my money, Civil War 2.0 can’t start soon enough…

      • Kim November 9, 2020 at 9:56 pm #

        My big concern with him is that he is bringing paraggaphing into disrepute.

    • Exscotticus November 9, 2020 at 12:06 pm #

      Nope! Ad hominem attacks against Kunstler and overt antisemitism doesn’t clear Dems of voter fraud. Only courts can do that.

    • Rulo Deschamps November 9, 2020 at 12:14 pm #

      This post is silly and one-dimensional. I disagree with it. But unlike Jeremy, I don’t think it should be removed. Remember, speech is refuted with more speech. Removing opinions we don’t agree with is what the MSM & social media do. I think this space is better because it allows most opinions. I know JHK trims it a bit now and then, as is his prerogative since he writes and maintains this blog, but I would urge you to try to avoid banning anyone except the most disrupting trolls. One may not agree with an opinion, in fact hate it, but defend the right of others to voice it, paraphrasing something someone said.

      • Jeremy November 9, 2020 at 12:29 pm #

        It should be removed. Jim’s blog is not the public square – Fox can now go there and spew his venom.

      • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 12:31 pm #

        I agree Rulo, one post from a cranky old man can’t do much. People will give it all the weight it deserves.

        But I am glad JHK emptied a whole can of “Jackoff remover” and we don’t have that little cockroach’s asinine troll remarks appearing as every third post.

        • Q. Shtik November 9, 2020 at 5:03 pm #

          But I am glad JHK emptied a whole can of “Jackoff remover” – hm

          =========

          Are you saying JackOff has been banned? How do you know? Did our host send you an email and tell you this? Or are you just speculating since JackOff has gone quiet for a spell?

          Q— I tossed Jack Meoff. That’s a fact. — JHK Admin

          • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 6:27 pm #

            Jackoff has one post at this time. Early this morning (before you got here, apparently) Jackoff had 6 posts up and was on target to litter the neighborhood once again with his whimsical observations. Then all but one post disappeared, and he’s posted nothing since that purge. Draw your own conclusions.

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 10, 2020 at 12:15 pm #

            Thank the lord.

    • Kim November 9, 2020 at 8:53 pm #

      @ foxnews69

      Obvious false flag troll name is obvious.

  23. Sean Coleman November 9, 2020 at 11:14 am #

    Yes, the media decode what is real. That is how Matthew Johnson puts it. In a recent podcast he argued that nominalism is the ideology of the modern world. My wording there are no universals, everything is in flux. There are no categories or hierarchies, no fixed moral principles, everything is relative and subject to adjustment. Johnson again: liberalism replaced monarchy to empower oligarchs and we are now living under oligarchy in its purest form. I think he says: reality is what the powerful decide is real. Me: Jung looked at early Athenian nominalists in one of the first chapters of Psychological Types to illustrate extraversion, the claim of the object before that of the subject. Me: or of chaos and anarchy over meaning and order. Johnson: reality is hidden behind the curtain of appearance but even now it can occasionally be sensed. What most Americans believe is true both now and historically is completely wrong. Nominalism equates with evil. Christopher Booker (The Neophiliacs, 1969): fantasy is evil. Me: collective fantasy is growing visibly by the day. It is invisible but nobody can see it despite swimming in it.

    • Sean Coleman November 9, 2020 at 11:15 am #

      Corection: “but nobody wants to see it”

    • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 11:26 am #

      Consider how philosophical Platonism evolved into a more religious form – Neo-platonism. Which gave birth to Gnosticism. Which gave birth to the Matrix movies and theories of our perceived universe being a hologram inside a more real reality. Which brings us back to Plato and idealism.

      • Sean Coleman November 9, 2020 at 11:51 am #

        Never watched The Matrix and no plans to do so, or any other film. Holograms were all the rage back in the day. I think it is artificial intelligence now or transhumanism(?). Again, I do not know and do not care.

        Matthew Johnson argues that Christianity was essentially a Greek, a European, religion from the very start, Nazareth being a suburb of a sizeable Greek-speaking city and the whole of Galilee permeated by Greek thought. He and E Michael Jones see Greek philosophy as having been completed by the introduction of Christ as the Logos. The Trinity consists of three persons in one God. The nominalist mind cannot understand this. Logos ican be seen as embodying natural order and purpose in history (the Greeks had no such sense of history; Jones said that this was Augustine’s contribution). History, Jones, argues, is in continuous tension between the idea of a meaningful but invisible reality and a tangible but meaningless one (such as we have now).

        I just thought I would try there to see if I could summarize what they are saying and I cannot, not yet anyway. I was never attracted by philosophy for its own sake and have to make myself learn about it.

        But I can say one thing for sure. it might be difficult to see but collective fantasy is real and not that hard to prove.

      • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 12:17 pm #

        But don’t blame Plato or Plotinus for the Gnostics, even if their movements helped give impetus to them. Plato did not believe the world was completely evil or unreal as many of the Gnostics did. Some then became extreme ascetics; other extreme libertines – since nothing mattered in an unreal world. This is very alien to Platonism.

        • Sean Coleman November 9, 2020 at 5:42 pm #

          I think you are right but I don’t know enough to discuss it. It is interesting all right.

        • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 10:54 pm #

          In their medieval form as Cathari (aka Albigensians) the Gnostics sure put a bumblebee up the Pope’s butt. So you have to give them some credit for that. LOL

    • Rulo Deschamps November 9, 2020 at 12:23 pm #

      “collective fantasy is growing visibly by the day. It is invisible but nobody can see it despite swimming in it.” This, Mr S Coleman, is the kind of stuff that keeps me coming back to this website, mostly as a reader. If you’re interested in Jung, an author named Terence McKenna explored much of the same turf back in the 90’s. He was heavily invested in visionary mushrooms, both the research & theorizing and literally a nursery & spore business in Hawaii. The collective unconscious, in his view, is powerful enough to summon phenomena into existence, from Greek deities to UFO’s. You may enjoy his stuff.

      • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 10:58 pm #

        A couple weeks ago I told everyone Trump is an egregore, nourished by strong feelings both positive and negative. They thought I was kidding. At least you Rulo understand.

      • Sean Coleman November 10, 2020 at 11:28 am #

        Thanks Rulo. I thought I had posted this last night. I was only thinking aloud and it shows. I like it when I can post something I know is true and can stand over.

        Hmuller, I had to look up Harriet Tubman, the abortionist.

        • hmuller November 10, 2020 at 10:45 pm #

          I’m not aware Harriet Tubman had anything to do with abortion. A drug addled Kanye West may have made a connection, but disregard anything he says.

          • Sean Coleman November 11, 2020 at 2:57 am #

            You are right. I read ‘abolitionist’ as ‘abortionist’.

          • hmuller November 11, 2020 at 12:56 pm #

            Big difference between the two. LOL Like mistaking a pedagogue for a pedophile.

          • Sean Coleman November 11, 2020 at 5:34 pm #

            My eyesight. Mind you, I remember some statistics from Colin Flaherty saying that black women have abortions at a far higher rate than whites, while Latino rates are also much higher but nowhere near those of blacks.

          • hmuller November 12, 2020 at 8:26 pm #

            Margaret Sanger (1879 – 1966) founder of Planned Parenthood spoke about the need to curtail the number of undesirable and inferior people of color, Left-wingers embrace her agenda of genocide without a smidgen of guilt..

            Excerpts from::www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/ss/ss6811a1.htm

            “black women had the highest abortion rate (25.1 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years) and ratio (401 abortions per 1,000 live births).”

            “white women had the lowest abortion rate (6.6 abortions per 1,000 women aged 15–44 years) and ratio (109 abortions per 1,000 live births),”

    • sevensec November 9, 2020 at 12:32 pm #

      Excellent points. To the tech-lords/oligarchs/nominalists, you see, the “collective fantasy” is nothing less than an embryonic new universe that, through their godlike powers, they are forcing to be born. It is thus the ultimate testament to their own greatness, their trans-humanity. And this conviction of godlike greatness is precisely why nothing must be allowed to stand in their way—or increasingly, even to slow them down.

      Their belief in this universe-creating destiny, I suspect, is so strong that I am not sure any longer whether the belief is “metaphorical” rather than “literal”. I don’t believe normal humans are really even able to grasp the level of insane hubris that is in play here—and in that sense, possibly, the tech-lords are indeed “superhuman”.

      Such people are likely “capable of anything” (a double-entendre for god-like power?!)

    • sevensec November 9, 2020 at 12:45 pm #

      Do you happen to have a link for that podcast?

      • Sean Coleman November 9, 2020 at 5:40 pm #

        Here is the page for Johson’s podcasts. The one I had in mind is no. 091620 from 20 September, “Logos in St Gregory of Nyssa”. I have listened to it a couple of times but I am not sure where, or even if, St Gregor comes in.

        https://theorthodoxnationalist.wordpress.com/

        I came to the conclusion only recently, say three or four years ago, that history needs to be written again because I had come acros so many distortions. I came across Johnson via the YT channel of an intelligent young Irishman, Keith Woods, who is well up in philosphy (unlike myself). And it turned out that Johnson, among other things, has been doing just that over the past few years. I was just reading an essay in the Russian Orthodox Nationalist about My Lai, where he claims the massacre story is essentially an invention (Seymour Hersch). Among the topics that interested me were the Rape of Nanking, the Opium Wars, the young man who recently shot two Antifa rioters who were trying to kill him, Charlotteville, the myth of the Mongols in Russia, Nicholas II.

        • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 6:38 pm #

          That’s the problem, the challenge, and the fascination of history. You can interpret the facts so many different ways to suit yourself.

          Harriet Tubman nearly knocked Andrew Jackson off the $20 bill, because Obama et al. thought her more worthy of honor. In view of recent events, don’t count old Harriet out.

          • hmuller November 11, 2020 at 1:05 pm #

            But I’d rather see her replace Alexander Hamilton on the $10 bill. I never liked that prissy little butt-boy for the Rothschilds

            Killing him was the only good thing Aaron Burr ever did. Yeah, you heard me! Put that in your Broadway show, (if Broadway ever re-opens). And we deplorables in flyover country don’t give a rat’s ass if it never does.

  24. volodya November 9, 2020 at 11:17 am #

    Maybe – just sayin’ – it would be better for Trump to get outta Dodge and for he and Trumpists to  take a time out and think things through. 

    The main problem with Trump’s accession is that he had little base of support outside of American underclasses and the middle class. This means not enough people supporting him in the Deep State, in academe, in the media, and especially not in the Republican Party he’d overthrown to get the nomination. 

    And he had nowhere near enough support in the business community and Wall Street both of which fund Democrats and traditional Republicans, who in turn extract money from taxpayers to hire protection for those same business and financial interests, whether this protection is in the form laws or of cops and spies and soldiers, or whether it’s regulatory bodies that put their fingers on the scale to ensure that business comes out on top. 

    This protection can take many forms, but the point is that it’s a symbiosis of elite interests that use one another to maintain an economic and political system for their own advantage.

    Trump had a brief agenda which can be summarized as America First, but whose broad strokes can be discerned as avoidance of debilitating wars, tightening national borders, re-establishing or re-shoring American manufacturing and the mass, bread-winner  employment that went with it, all of which directly improve the lot of America’s underclasses ie the Deplorables.  

    Given the benefit to Deplorables, these action items were seen as a direct threat to entrenched elite interests. And it was obvious pretty quick that Trump had not nearly enough back-up that could have fended off fraudulent attempts to overturn his valid 2016 election win. 

    So, the problem that faces people that support Trump’s aims is to establish a political movement that encompasses not just grass-roots foot-soldiers but that also has adherents in Deep State officialdom, people that could lend their influence the next time a Trumpist comes to power, if there is a next time. 

    It’s a big, multi-year task ahead, one that needs people in universities, the judiciary, the military, in the foreign affairs “blob”, in intel and police agencies, in short, a broadly based community of patriots who will oppose globalists, internationalists, neo-liberals, in short, all those that sell out America and Americans for the narrow advantage of a few. 

    Where to start, where to start …

    • Exscotticus November 9, 2020 at 12:10 pm #

      >>> The main problem with Trump’s accession is that he had little base of support outside of American underclasses and the middle class.

      LOL! That is actually a highly desirable “problem” that most politicians would jump at to achieve.

      No matter what happens, Trump’s legacy will outlast Biden. A thoroughly red federal judiciary. A 7-2 conservative SCOTUS majority. Oops!

      Even if Biden takes power, he’ll operate under a cloud of illegitimacy. If Dems don’t take the Senate, he’s a lame duck from day one.

      • volodya November 10, 2020 at 9:51 am #

        But what good is this “red” federal judiciary and this scotus majority if they’re all traditional Republican in ideology and policy aims, that is, opposed to the America First agenda, or alternatively, they’re all foresquare for elite interests.

        If they indeed ARE traditional Republican and they ARE all about defending elite interests, they might just as well be Democrats.

        • Exscotticus November 10, 2020 at 7:49 pm #

          It’s a valid point. Chief Justice Roberts votes for liberal ideology about a third of the time. I consider him a RINO.

          That’s why a 7-2 SCOTUS majority is so nice! We can now afford to lose Roberts and even one more “conservative” and still win.

    • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 12:23 pm #

      Great bad advice. I was right above. They are attempting a blitzkrieg and any attempt at adjudication later will just be met by “what does it matter now” exasperation. Those in power get to decide what matters after all. So, No. It’s now or never. If we fail, then I doubt Trump or his family will be able to stay in America, much less build a movement.

      Who did you vote for btw? Just curious.

      Where to start? Fighting back as we are doing. Get on the train or get out of the way.

      • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 3:08 pm #

        Yep. We can’t honestly expect the comfortable classes that have seen their stars rise with the empire and the destruction of the nation to suddenly about face and side with the nation over the empire.

  25. MiddlePeninsula November 9, 2020 at 11:20 am #

    Great writing as usual, Mr. Kunstler. Although I am not getting my news from MSM, you seem to have much better sources about the real story. Could you share a few sites?

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  26. Mostly Disagreeable November 9, 2020 at 11:21 am #

    Correct.

    Because election fraud is a time-honored ritual so to are claims of it. Doing it requires motive, opportunity, and means, these days largely technological. No need to do it at scale, just enough to squeak by in small, targeted segments and construct a plausible set of excuses.

    The goal of investigation is to let the numbers tell the story. The best way to discover potential fraud starts with forensic analysis of statistical anomalies then pinpoint where integrity was breached. Whether such analysis affects final outcomes is irrelevant; the larger purpose is to restore trust, which, largely because of partisan media behavior is now zero.

    Biden may yet be the Xanax president that half the electorate evidently needs to the calm spasms of cognitive dissonance.

  27. shrbri November 9, 2020 at 11:30 am #

    As a long time fan of James’ erudite critique of our soul-sucking built environment and fossil fuel addiction, I stop by once and a while to see if his Trump adulation fever has broken. I mean Trump is the living embodiment of everything James lambasted in his early books: The builder of gold-plated, disgustingly unsustainable buildings (towers! casinos!) and the lover of fossil fuel driven economics (more drilling! more coal!), but no matter, when your inner submissiveness has been awoken by a wanna-be authoritarian, all former principles are chucked out the window, I guess, and one spends one’s time writing apologetics for a man-child who whined all week about how he should’ve won, then sulked off to one of his money-losing golf courses to shoot a few links — wow, how manly! James, of course Biden isn’t any kind of savior, of course he has plenty of corruption, but your willful blindness to Trump’s own corruption is laughable. Looking forward to SDNY issuing indictments in Jan!

    • Mostly Disagreeable November 9, 2020 at 11:52 am #

      Why assume he adores Trump?

      • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 3:22 pm #

        I figured his current status was less about /liking/ Trump and far more about despising the ruling class and their perfidy.

        Trump has been useful as a crude floodlight and the way DC and the comfortable classes have responded has been instructive.

    • King of Comedy November 9, 2020 at 11:56 am #

      Can’t speak for anybody but I believe what you perceive as “Trump adulation” is actually just visceral revulsion aimed at the alternative.

      That is egg-zackly right, King of Comedy… but I get weary explaining it.–JHK Admin

      Many have taken note of the curious phenomenon whereby a countermovement could achieve such a level of odiousness that its target appears reasonable by way of contrast. Trump’s circus clown persona wore even on many of his supporters but here are the binary choices:

      Unchecked culture-altering immigration and the instability that comes with it or an “assimilation pause”.

      Critical race theory or wiping one’s ass thereon.

      The concerted effort to delegitimize the foundation and development of this country and its founders versus a realization that a country whose citizens are taught to hate it cannot long stand.

      Encouragement of infantile anti-police and anti-capitalist rioting versus an acknowledgement that those institutions while not perfect are far superior to anarchy and state-run penury.

      The list goes on and on…

      • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 12:27 pm #

        Comedy arises from pain. Thus you are the King of Pain. Since Jimmy Kimmel bowed down to Oprah, he is no longer blue collar funny, but simply sick and sickening. Something is wrong with his face now.

      • shrbri November 9, 2020 at 12:46 pm #

        So, in other words, your personal feelings are so hurt by some college students going overboard with “pc culture” and your white fear of hoards of brown people at the border are so strong that you’re willing to accept the shattering of democratic norms and institution of banana republic style dictatorship and corruption (“here’s a job for you Ivanka!”).

        Oh well.

        • King of Comedy November 9, 2020 at 1:46 pm #

          Well, that’s one take on it…

          To repeat ad nauseum:

          If you’re a member of that newly-minted category, POC, I get the resentment. It’s difficult to look at the myriad achievements, technological and otherwise, of white civilization and deep down, in your heart of hearts, admit that it’s going to be difficult to compete with that. Hence the need for special rules, affirmative action, pseudo-concepts like white privilege, etc, etc. For instance, it would be a rather ironic state of affairs for you to be typing your “white fear” on the internet… on a computer… using electricity… all inventions/discoveries of white folks, wouldn’t you say?

          If you are white, which I suspect is the case, then that posits an even greater irony. No people in history has actively cheered on its dissolution because existence has always been so precarious as to preclude that absurd approach. Yet that is exactly what the self-loathing white, his delicate nature only made possible by the achievements of the men who have come before him, takes as his project. Alas for that pathetic type, nature does not long permit grotesqueries which violate its rules.

          So, my feelings don’t even factor in. Nor do Trump’s failings. You cited the original scope of this blog in your post. If we are indeed headed in that direction, humans will revert very quickly to their tribal nature. That will be (and is) all that matters. Kumbaya signing is highly, highly unlikely to be our future.

          • King of Comedy November 9, 2020 at 2:16 pm #

            *singing

          • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 2:17 pm #

            Well said. You are one of the twice born, a god among men.

          • Jo-G November 9, 2020 at 7:17 pm #

            King of Comedy’s post makes me think that the foundation of the resistance is envy. I know comfortable and well fed whites who succumbed to the Trump hatred from the media. They seem to me to feel insulated from the negative effects of infinite immigration and covid lockdowns.

          • Kim November 9, 2020 at 10:02 pm #

            Jo-G

            KIng of Comedy’s post makes me think that the foundation of the resistance is envy.

            A lot of it is just economics. There’s a surplus of apple polishers chasing a limited supply of apples.

          • shrbri November 10, 2020 at 12:10 pm #

            @king of comedy @kunstler,

            Yep, Kunstler’s comments section has become a cesspool of white supremacy and apologetics for race based authoritarianism.

            The American eugenics movement is alive and well… You, know, people who feel so insecure they have to imagine they’re part of the “chosen race” to feel better.

            I’ll make sure not to open this sewer hatch again…

          • King of Comedy November 10, 2020 at 12:52 pm #

            @shrbri

            We’ll have to agree to disagree, I suppose, but that aside, coming off as the president of the Robin DiAngelo fan club is just not a great look.

            You seem to be shocked that when the established game is identity politics, everyone will eventually field a team but more broadly speaking, it’s quite an unprecedented thing: that a factual restating of one’s cultural heritage and accomplishments is now considered bad form (“eugenics”, “chosen race”, really?). I guess this pathology du jour will give future cultural historians, sociologists and psychologists a virtually boundless field of exploration and study.

            And speaking of psychology… if one finds a certain group so objectionable, should he not stop using all of the things that group brought into existence? It’s the only intellectually (morally?) consistent position.

        • Kim November 9, 2020 at 10:00 pm #

          @ shrbri

          Truth in advertising requires you to change your handle to blah, blah, blah.

      • So many liars November 9, 2020 at 12:52 pm #

        Nicely worded summary King. I’m stealing it…

  28. Mostly Disagreeable November 9, 2020 at 11:30 am #

    It would be great to have Like buttons here.

    • Epicur November 10, 2020 at 6:11 pm #

      Since we don’t have “Like” buttons I will have to state that I like your idea.

  29. QAintel November 9, 2020 at 11:34 am #

    Trump was chosen by Jesus and Jesus will see to it that Trump will prevail in this election. Jesus is just testing the faithful. The “virus” that was released by Melinda Gates in order to destroy Trump’s chances of re-election is days away from being eradicated. Project Warp Speed was another masterful success. We love you Trump! Never stop fighting. We have mobilized our militia and await your command!!

    • vengeur November 9, 2020 at 11:46 am #

      Oh I see That’s what you Trump haters think aTrump supporter looks like? Lol

  30. edpell November 9, 2020 at 11:36 am #

    Time to start the Impeach Biden Campaign.

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    • Mostly Disagreeable November 9, 2020 at 11:54 am #

      Pity him. Every route to the end is ignominious.

  31. par4 November 9, 2020 at 11:47 am #

    I think Stalin and Beria would tip their hats to <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MA8a2g6tTp0"this

  32. beantownbill. November 9, 2020 at 11:58 am #

    What did anyone expect? That everything was going to be hunky-dory after the election?

    I admit that I wanted Trump to win. But really, it makes no difference who emerges victorious from the electoral garbage heap. The biggest difference will be in the timing. Of what? The downfall of our society. If Trump wins, a societal collapse probably will occur later in 2021 or sometime in 2022. If Biden ends up winning, the collapse will occur sometime in 2021.

    I know this seems like doom-mongering, but we have placed some intractable issues on the back burner. IMO, our economy is the most immediate problem, while many here are more concerned with political parties and unrest. But the economy is running on fumes, and is very shaky. All it takes is a little push and – BLAM – we are all in the shitter. Paraphrasing the beautiful poetess, “How does the economy die? Let me count the ways.”

    Trump and Biden are both socialists; one for business and one for the public. Businesses at least have a chance for some economic production, but all the public does is consume, and not wisely. Therefore I think that the Dems will bring on collapse a little sooner than the Repubs; but collapse will happen. I hope I got it all wrong.

    This is why whoever ends up winning the election doesn’t make a difference.

    • Kim November 9, 2020 at 10:04 pm #

      @ beantownbill.

      How’s the view from the fence? You spend a lot of time sitting on it. Do you have to pay rent?

    • hmuller November 10, 2020 at 12:20 am #

      Beantownbill,
      I worry about a two pronged danger.
      1) lawless thugs victimizing people in their homes, stealing, raping, killing, burning. Yes, it’s good to be armed; but there may be too many of them. And I’m not Chuck Norris.
      2) Desperate, bankrupted governments (from local on up) using ‘color of law’ to expropriate the citizenry of all they have left to feed the public servants. Think of the police in banana republics.

      I worry about a lot more. But I’ll cut it short.

  33. mdhendler November 9, 2020 at 11:58 am #

    JHK’s mysterious turnabout probably happened
    As a result of his experiences on the lecture circuit of college campuses. He use to get paid a lot speaking at colleges. However, sadly many colleges have been overtaken by an intolerant culture of Cancel, Trigger Warnings, Safe Spaces, Critical Race Theory, etc. It is understandable to feel rage at all this. Andrew Sullivan, a reliable progressive, has much to say about Critical Race Theory. However, JHK’s rage has bled over to everything else. I’m sure if he tried, JHK might still be able to publish in mainstream places like The Atlantic Monthly, which, though a little left of center, still accepts many contrarian and libertarian articles.

    Why would I want to publish in the Woke Atlantic Monthly??? I am against the entire Woke smorgasbord and its enablers in the Deep State. That’s where I stand. Nothing mysterious about it. No matter how many times I state it plainly, some of you just don’t seem to get it. — JHK Admin

    • SouthernYankee November 9, 2020 at 12:07 pm #

      Maybe his turnabout happened because he actually has the ability to think critically, outside the box, even if doing so challenges and changes long held beliefs, alliances or whatever.

    • Kim November 9, 2020 at 10:05 pm #

      @ mdhendler

      He might also like to publish in Woke Lemming Weekly, but I doubt it.

    • MoleMan November 11, 2020 at 9:53 am #

      JHK:
      You might not want to publish in The Atlantic, but to call it The WOKE Atlantic Monthly is silly and sloppy. As mdhendler notes, they publish many pieces that make similar arguments that you do on your blog here. A case in point: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/10/large-majorities-dislike-political-correctness/572581/

      Quick question: why did you reject my post from a day or two ago noting the same things mdhendler does here, but using an extensive quote from a post you wrote on this very blog from 10 years ago? I’d hope you’d be willing to address the discrepancies between then and now, rather than cancel my post.

    • Amman November 12, 2020 at 3:58 pm #

      JHK’s essays are text, context and subtext. If that is a mysterious way for you to read any literature, then at least read between the lines. If he had to write all, it might take a book.

  34. SouthernYankee November 9, 2020 at 12:04 pm #

    I’m glad I waited for gold and silver to go on sale before purchasing so I can realize more upside potential once the social chaos re-initiates. We also had a great time this weekend familiarizing ourselves with our 9mm S&Ws. We had good fun at the local shooting range down here in FuckedOver country. But, we do live right next to a lot of good local (and family owned) farmland so at least we won’t starve while the urban Wokesters scrounge the McDonald’s dumpster for scraps and used ketchup packets.

    But seriously folks, I just want to re-iterate as someone else did recently, that this blog was started for one main purpose: to educate and enlighten readers on the coming Long Emergency precipitated by Peak Oil and related financial sorcery. Though recent events have been breathtaking and shocking they are ultimately details within the larger picture, i.e. depletion of the black ooze and Jim’s projected WMBH.

    So even if Hidin Biden really is inaugurated, what will it matter except to mismange and hasten America’s descent and collapse which will happen in any case. The American project may very well prove to be over and done with, but likewise Western civilzation.

    But what I really want to know is if Bilary, Scummer, Camel A, Chancey, the Clap, Schiifty, and the rest of the Little-ful Rascals can flip a good burger. Or will they have to return to their previous vocations as prostitutes in training?

    • beantownbill. November 9, 2020 at 12:06 pm #

      What I said.

      • SouthernYankee November 9, 2020 at 12:09 pm #

        Heard it from someone else too Bill. Supply lines haven’t even REALLY broken down yet. What’s it gonna be like then?

    • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 12:34 pm #

      AOC can tend bar. If she unbuttons a couple of buttons in her blouse, she might get a following. She’s talking about getting out of politics. Somehow she lost out in the power struggle and is on the outs in the Biden clique. She hitched her star to a sputtering Bernie! No doubt she will be back in any case.

      • Soul Forensics November 9, 2020 at 3:16 pm #

        AOC. What a prima donna. She’s got a cushy gig, and could ride it for decades in her district, but, like the impatient revolutionary she is, is now throwing a tantrum because she and Bernie have been frozen out of the Deep State fold. Top prize or nothing for her. Grandees can fetch her prosecco during lulls in her list-making.

        Starting out, she probably wouldn’t even have won a borough debate were it not that she’s seen as a hot babe by her beta constabulary.

        As one political op said, “Why do the scut work of local politics if you can get glossy magazine covers? Believe me, Jerry Nadler would love to just be on the cover of Time, but it’s not something that is available to him.”

      • Kim November 9, 2020 at 10:09 pm #

        I believe that inpecunious young ladies of the modern type can make extra pin money on OnlyFans or Chaturbate.

        No need to tend bar.

        Meanwhile it is my understandng that the US Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people and is wholly inadequate to the government of any other…

  35. beantownbill. November 9, 2020 at 12:05 pm #

    This is why economic collapse is on the top of my list of issues: When the economy goes, horrific times ensue. Breakdowns of supply lines happen, and people will starve. Many persons are living day-to-day trying to buy essentials right now.

    Unrest isn’t the cause of future bad times; inability to provide for oneself is.

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  36. zekesdad November 9, 2020 at 12:11 pm #

    If election fraud can’t be proven or an insufficient number of fraudulent votes are found to make a difference, my guess is that the Durham investigation into Russia Gate and the investigation against Hunter Biden will go nowhere in the lame duck session. The reason being that the Dems have already put a post-presidential Trump in their prosecutorial crosshairs as insurance. There will be no one to stop a an over zealous prosecutor once Wm. Barr is gone. The only card Trump will have to play is to have Barr and Durham drop any forthcoming indictments in exchange for letting him retire to Mar el Lago. I can’t understand why Barr and Durham didn’t go ahead with what they had back in May unless their hearts really weren’t in it. If somehow Trump ends up the winner, and the Russia Gate players and Hunter Biden end up being prosecuted in the next two months, we’ll likely have a civil war on our hands.

    • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 12:36 pm #

      Deep state moles. The best way to stop an opposition movement (Trump’s) is to lead it.

  37. grant November 9, 2020 at 12:18 pm #

    Jim:
    What happened to Dmitry Orlov’s directive,”…ignore your politicians…they have no interest in your well being.”

    Grant– What an idea! Follow Dmitry’s “directive?” Like he’s my personal commissar? “Bigger fish to fry?” You mean, besides the fate of the country I live in? No, there aren’t bigger fish to fry. There are other fish to fry and if you read this blog regularly, you will discover that I attend to them. If you infer that I think your comment is foolish, you are correct.–JHK Admin

    I believe I read Orlov’s piece directly linked from JHK’s website.

    Aren’t there bigger fish to fry than participate in the pageantry of cartoon politics? Like a bank running out of money,the planet is running out of resources and soon it’s game over.

    I use a lame analogy but the sentiment is true-when the many stops it all stops-or-when the environment gives in we’re all fucked. Let the barn animals kick and bray while a small group of thoughtful citizens prepare for something much bigger than name calling and power grabs.It’s almost too late.

    • grant November 9, 2020 at 12:20 pm #

      Sorry – meant, “when the money stops”

    • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 12:37 pm #

      You are a submerged superman just like me.

    • Rulo Deschamps November 9, 2020 at 1:50 pm #

      “Let the barn animals kick and bray while a small group of thoughtful citizens prepare for something much bigger than name calling and power grabs”. I’ll second that. The kind of collapse Orlov lived through will be nothing compared to what would happen here if, God forbid, the supply lines broke down, as a poster above noted. Politics has become a distraction. To choose from bad choices. I was not going to vote at all. I’ll probably stay away from it in the future, unless a see a true America First type third party emerging. I’m done w D & R’s for sure. Focus, focus: how many can I feed? how can I protect myself and mine? What local alliances and friendships do I need to cultivate, whom should I stay away from (rule of thumb: anyone advocating violence or civil war, keyboard warriors, snowflakes, marketing execs, the obese, the useless, the addicts… it’s a long list). It’s not almost too late. It IS too late. One has to assume that de-coupling from most accepted assumptions may be necessary at any time. Assumptions like “I will certainly eat tomorrow”.

      • hmuller November 9, 2020 at 11:07 pm #

        How about the assumption I hear a lot. “The government will take care of us, It has to.” Oh boy, is that going to be a shock to some!

  38. Ishabaka November 9, 2020 at 12:36 pm #

    The North Vietnamese Communists had a list. I knew a Vietnamese woman who’d been on the list, and spent two years in a Peasant Values Reeducation Camp. It wasn’t pleasant.

    • Jo-G November 9, 2020 at 7:46 pm #

      I’ve met several who were on the Vietnamese Communist list, and several who went to the re-education camps. I wonder what they think of the News censorship and enemies list compilations going on now? They came here to be Americans in an America with a more free press and no open talk of enemies lists. Maybe they’re now on the Biden train and don’t even see it.

  39. messianicdruid November 9, 2020 at 12:43 pm #

    “No Person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”

    I am looking forward to the next insurrection.

    • messianicdruid November 9, 2020 at 12:52 pm #

      Notice that disappointed Trump supporters are not rioting in the streets. They have their big boy pants on. But what will happen if the courts overturn the initial election results and if Trump then wins the election? Will the Democrats and their Antifa allies put on their big boy pants?

      • Rulo Deschamps November 9, 2020 at 2:06 pm #

        That’s the scenario I fear. All hell breaks loose. It’s a conundrum. To whack the hornet’s nest, or to ignore it and work on preparations toward the Long Emergency? If Trump had won by a landslide, maybe the critical mass would be there to say, yeah, whack the yellowjackets and damn the consequences. As it stands now, they win. They have the street thugs, the whole media apparatus, and most likely the army and local PD’s, not to mention Wall St, China and most of the world’s opinion, PLUS a solid advantage of millions of votes. I say leave them alone and focus on other things.

        • sophia November 9, 2020 at 2:16 pm #

          He did win by a landslide. We may never know by how much.

  40. Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 12:51 pm #

    RT

    Russian President Vladimir Putin won’t congratulate Joe Biden on winning the US presidential election until the results are official, the Kremlin said on Monday, citing the possibility of court challenges.
    Unlike many other world leaders, Putin has remained silent since the US media called the election in the Democratic candidate’s favor and said Biden had achieved the necessary 270 Electoral College votes to clinch victory over the incumbent president, Donald Trump.

    “Anticipating your possible question about Putin’s congratulations to the US president-elect, I want to say the following: we consider it proper to wait for the official results,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters.

    Yoho: Our greatest ally and friend is we would only have it so. All the people who were so sure of election fraud coming from Russia now pooh pooh the whole concept. Thus they are contemptible fools and frauds, seeing (or pretending to see) what isn’t there and then not seeing what is.

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    • BackRowHeckler November 9, 2020 at 3:00 pm #

      What’s Ji Xing Ping been saying? I understand he has Sleepy Joe by the shorthairs.

    • Q. Shtik November 9, 2020 at 4:20 pm #

      Yoho: Our greatest ally…………etc. – Yo

      =======

      There was NO WAY you were going to be brow-beaten by ME into changing your nickname into the more sensible Yoha or, better yet, just Yo.

      • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 5:25 pm #

        I have a well aspected Jupiter and am jovial, much like the ghost of Christmas past. Combine that with a Rabalaisian sense of humor, and you can imagine me yohoing even as they kneel me to get a bullet in the back of my head.

  41. Roundball Shaman November 9, 2020 at 12:52 pm #

    “…President Donald Trump likes to get out on the golf links…”

    He’s in a pretty deep sand trap right now. He’s yelling at his caddy, he’s yelling at the course, he’s yelling at the ball, he’s yelling at this choice of club, he’s yelling at the clouds and the breeze. Golf can be a game of fun and relaxation or it can be a maddeningly frustrating game of misery. It’s all in how you play it and react to it. Much like politics.

    “The news media’s strategy here, you understand, is to overcome reality by main force…”

    You remember what that one bozo said years ago… “We create OUR OWN reality.”

    “Not a few reality-based observers in the alt.media pointed out that it’s not the MSM’s official duty to pick winners. That’s up to elected state legislators certifying the vote.”

    Not quite. The Hidden Hand picks the winners. The corporate media tells the subjects who their leadership will be. The subjects grumble about it and go on to accept The Hand’s decisions until the next election when the entire sordid process repeats itself again and again.

    “As for the election fraud itself, you can be sure that a holy host of computer nerd statisticians on Mr. Trump’s end have been working backstage…”

    They will uncover unquestionable election fraud. They will take their findings to the Triple G. He will bellow and scream about it. The media and the Blue public will ignore him. Biden the Elder and his giddy socialist sidekick will assume their thrones as planned.
    Election fraud is not a glitch in the system, but a fundamental feature of the system to be used again and again.

    “So, is this over? Is the election a done deal? Perhaps not.”

    The Hidden Interests that slither around in the shadows have more than one way to benefit from ongoing election chaos. It’s just a matter of which way they choose to maximize the division in the country and pad their position of dominance over the confused and battered American public. Bring it on, boys and girls. We can’t wait to see what you have planned for us next.

    • Rulo Deschamps November 9, 2020 at 2:12 pm #

      “The Hidden Hand picks the winners. The corporate media tells the subjects who their leadership will be. The subjects grumble about it and go on to accept The Hand’s decisions until the next election when the entire sordid process repeats itself again and again.” Mr Shaman has it exactly right. That’s the way it is.

  42. hank55 November 9, 2020 at 1:08 pm #

    From here (here means Czechia, Central Europe) it looks like both fanclubs are ready to kill each other off flying the flags of their puppet masters.

    If I understand the stuff correct there are 4 conditions to be elected the POTUS:
    – US citizenship from birth
    – age 35 and more
    – dwelling in the USA at least 14 years before the election
    – disposing of a sum at least 3 billion US dollars
    (Source: https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2020/10/cost-of-2020-election-14billion-update)

    Is any candidate in any election ready to fight for the interests of his/her fans or rather of his/her funders?

    Many people here in Central and East Europe (of course with certain exceptions like e.g. in Poland) look forward to the moment when your governments (no matter if Dems or Reps) finally cease trying to export their sort of democracy worldwide. These polls definitely proved that what is exported is much more oligarchy than democracy.

    • John1945 November 9, 2020 at 2:31 pm #

      My good man hank55;

      All you need to do “to understand the stuff correct” is to read Article II Section 1 Clause 5 of the US Constitution.

      Make sure Big Brother is not watching you while you read this subversive stuff.Because you never know…

      • hank55 November 10, 2020 at 1:59 am #

        John1945: Probably you do not understand what I want to say.

        At the latest from the first TV election campaign (JFK vs. Nixon?) demanding tons of money it doesn’t matter at all who wons because the one who loses is Democracy. Worldwide. Always.

        Nevertheless it is no doubt many people consider that sort of entertainment at least as much exciting as cheering on NASCAR, NFL or NBA. Enjoy!

  43. BackRowHeckler November 9, 2020 at 1:09 pm #

    Sure the fix is in.

    The question is, how long will the Dems keep Biden around before they decide he is no longer of any use, and its time for him to go? Some comrades think he’ll be shown the door by next June.

    Russian attack helicopter shot down today by Azer forces … maybe Sleepy Joe’s 1st Black Swan event is taking flight.

    Brh

  44. manobrock November 9, 2020 at 1:18 pm #

    Hah, I’m here for the tin-foiled hat stuff here (and the tears bubbling up below the surface).

    So Dems rigged the election with machine tampering but didn’t bother to do this for the Senate or congressional races?

    • BackRowHeckler November 9, 2020 at 1:53 pm #

      Everything is tinfoil hat except Russia Collusion in the 2016 election and charges of treason over a phone call to Ukraine that triggered impeachment. Those of course were 100% legit.

    • KappaJoe November 9, 2020 at 2:05 pm #

      No, machine and database tampering typically inverts votes for select candidates, usually the top of the ticket or maybe a key senator or rep. The great thing about inverting is that, not only does the desired candidate gain a vote, the challenger loses a vote – a twofer! This form of tampering leaves a half-dozen statistical anamolies in its wake, both historical and real-time.

      The fraudulent paper ballots (of which there are a lot due to the potential for fraud of blanket mail-in balloting) are hastily prepared once it is obvious the desired candidate is going to lose (cough…stop counting at 11pm for no discernable reason) filling in only the first bubble, no time to go down ballot. Then cart these “discovered” ballots in at 4am with no poll monitors present. If you can’t achieve that due to the challenger’s overwhelming lead, you eject the poll monitors and tape pizza boxes on the windows while ballots are prepared with similar haste.

      These are only a few of the various vote-atlering techniques that have been employed, discovered, and documented in key swing-state Democrat controlled districts so far in this election.

  45. Easyenergy November 9, 2020 at 1:32 pm #

    The math is showing fraud finger prints all over the swing states. Anomalies in the mail-in ballots and the time they were counted (credit Zerohedge), huge discrepancy in the ballots supporting Biden but not the democratic senator, Biden getting less % of votes than Clinton in 2016 in every major city except in the major cities of the swing states, etc. Trump got 1,000’s to his rallies but the senile criminal, Joe Biden, couldn’t draw a dozen. Fight against this. It’s not for Trump…it’s for the United States. Don’t let the unelected, unaccountable, unseen criminal entities thwart the will of the American people. Fight back now.

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  46. 4014HAMPHEDGE November 9, 2020 at 1:50 pm #

    Romance of The Rails by Agnes T. Laut has an interesting line: America can never suffer famine because nations with railways are able to transport food whenever and wherever needed . This author was a Canadian and a woman of the Canadian heritage of trappers and frontiersmen. She was also keenly aware of the intrinsic ability of railway matrix to assure robust distribution of needful things.

    The US Military tied their Railroad Battalions to the operations of the Navy “Bureau Of Docks” as key element of efficient domestic & offshore material distribution: Railways are “Second Dimension Surface Transport Logistics Platform”.

    America was a lending not a borrowing nation when Agnes Laut brought out her railway exposition, with more than double track and route miles, reaching into every farm district, prompting her comments about America “never fearing famine”.

    As Balkanization of the Union Of States is more than a hypothetical topic these days, one wishes for a larger number of people understanding what a blessing and how important the pre WWII US railway matrix was -and shall be- in modern times. So simple in technical terms, local railway link is so much an object of interplanetary distance in this video game culture. Hearing of dissembling of the Union of States is excruciating knowing what railroaders know. “Keep ‘Em Rolling”.

  47. John1945 November 9, 2020 at 1:52 pm #

    Good news gentlemen;

    The Corpse who thinks he is a President of Something or Other passed his daily “fog-the-mirror” test and delivered a new Gettysburg Address.Here is the synopsis:

    “Renewed faith in tomorrow”
    “Not to divide, but unify”
    “No red states or blue states, only the United States”
    “America is about people”
    “I will restore the soul of America”
    “I will unite you”
    “We will make a vision real”
    “We’ve bent the moral arc towards justice”
    “230 million thousand(!!!) have died of Covid19″

    Then he lost possession of his mental & physical faculties.

    Let me finish for him:

    “Agriculture is important. ”
    “Our rivers are full of fish. ”
    “You cannot have freedom without liberty. ”
    “The future lies ahead.”

    • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 2:23 pm #

      We will rebuild him better than he was before. Better. Stronger. Faster. He will be the six million dollar man and robocop combined. A cyborg! Naw, actually we’re going to have to replace his brain too, so he’ll be an android. He’ll look like Joe, talk like Joe, but not be Joe – and that’s fine cuz Joe isn’t Joe anymore anyway. And he never was worth a damn no how….

      • John1945 November 9, 2020 at 2:39 pm #

        For all I care they can put The Corpse in liquid nitrogen until the Ultimate Dem Victory.
        Meanwhile why,say,an YT Farmer in Kansas should pay Reparation Tax to cover the rebuilding Dem cities destroyed by BLM/Antifa ???
        What is the point ?
        As Ronnie Reagan said if you subsidize something you’ll get more of it.

        • BackRowHeckler November 9, 2020 at 2:50 pm #

          All the looted and burned out cities will be getting bailed out now.

          • John1945 November 9, 2020 at 3:04 pm #

            Again,what is the f… point ?
            Have you ever heard about the innocent frolic like throwing a pack of yeast into outhouse ?

          • BackRowHeckler November 9, 2020 at 4:41 pm #

            J45 you gotta restock those sneaker stores and ATMs so they can be looted again next summer. You would think at this point — with every Footlocker, Addidas and Nike shop cleaned out coast to coast there’d be enough sneakers out there in the community to last for the next 50 years but wait and see, around next june they be needing new sneakers, and they know how to get them.

            Brh

          • John1945 November 9, 2020 at 4:54 pm #

            F.. those humanoid apes and their financial backers.
            I never volunteered for anything in my life.
            Presently humanoid apes are rioting and looting elsewhere.
            So we-me and my friends-are fence sitters.
            We understand it is bad.
            We understand this BS will affect us in the long run too.
            But…should the necessity arise,we will start popping them off.
            Not from the porch but from the safe secured position.
            Always remembering 11th Commandment-
            THOU SHALT NOT BE FOUND OUT !

          • BackRowHeckler November 9, 2020 at 6:26 pm #

            Well, let’s hope it doesn’t come to that, my friend.

        • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 5:43 pm #

          True dat!

    • Soul Forensics November 9, 2020 at 3:23 pm #

      “The future lies ahead.”

      Ahhahahahaha!

      • John1945 November 9, 2020 at 4:55 pm #

        It is an old joke of ’40 vintage

      • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 5:32 pm #

        It gets dark early here – Yogi Berra

  48. sophia November 9, 2020 at 2:07 pm #

    The problem for me in all this is that if the truth does prevail, most on the left will simply not believe it, no matter how much fraud is uncovered nor how much evidence. They listen only to the MSM liars and self censor from anything else.

    And the other problem for me is that if Biden succeeds in this coup, none of those crimes you have been writing about will see the light of day.

    • KappaJoe November 9, 2020 at 2:17 pm #

      That’s what the radical left has always done: they only mouth the Deep State’s MSM pronouncements, so no change there. Many of them well know the truth of the matter, but there ‘s no political advantage in that.

    • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 2:20 pm #

      Either they’ll put is in camps or we’ll put them in camps. Third path? Separation. Will they let us go? No. So the third path means war.

      • KappaJoe November 9, 2020 at 6:06 pm #

        No, the Right won’t put the Left in camps. Yet the Left is already making their Hitlerian/Stalinist lists, and they’re being none too discreet about it.

        That aside, those who plot, subvert, and attack our Constitutional Republic from within must be dealt with. There are severe laws against this, and once the totality of the treason has been assembled, one can rightly expect justice to prevail. And should it not prevail, those who subverted our government and those who had the power to stop it, yet did nothing, will be cursed for a thousand years.

        Separation was tried once before, and that actually resulted in civil war, so I don’t think that will fly. We are a Constitutional Republic. Either we adhere to and function under the rule of law or we don’t. If we don’t then that’s that. The illusion is broken.

        And if that’s the case, forget elections and governments and rules and laws and courts and justice and society and cooperation and the common good, for all those things will cease to exist in any positive sense, and the freedoms we have today become but myth and legend to future generations.

        The world is watching, corrupt as it is. And if America fails at this point, it is never, never coming back. Evil wins, and so goes the hope and light of the world. Globalist oligarchy are a power unto themselves and America is a constant thorn in their sides. They don’t care care what government a people exist under, as long as they can dictate that government. As our Constitutional Republic allows neither dictators nor their dictation, their Totalitarian rule is incomplete.

        • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 10:12 pm #

          In other words, keep letting our enemies educate our children. And allow an hostile, toxic media keep poisoning our public square. And if we somehow manage to win elections, let the enemy destroy our victory with obstruction and treason. And of course (as a “conservative”) you love capitalism and its treasonous banks and corporations.

          You fail.

    • FreddieMars November 10, 2020 at 11:47 am #

      Sophia

      It’s up to the courts to find it proven. Personal opinions really don’t matter.

  49. holtrp November 9, 2020 at 3:27 pm #

    Man, what happened to you Jim? You’ve gone full wing-nut!

    Here is a sober assessment of the hammering scorecards you are raving about. https://www.thedailybeast.com/infamous-hoax-artist-behind-trumpworlds-new-voter-fraud-claim

    The fact that Rudy Giuliani gave a presser outside a rundown landscaping company flanked by an adult bookstore and crematorium over the weekend might have given you pause.

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    • Soul Forensics November 9, 2020 at 3:44 pm #

      “A sober assessment.”

      The rambling hit job was nothing but a spew of ad hominems. But what else would you expect from a rag like the Daily Beast.

      • Night Owl November 9, 2020 at 5:22 pm #

        When Daily Beast trolls are arriving, you know you are over the target!

  50. sdf November 9, 2020 at 3:41 pm #

    Jim you wrote about Wishful Thinking, you should know better than this. The game is over, Trump can go and golf in peace now hopefully.

  51. messianicdruid November 9, 2020 at 4:09 pm #

    One guy goes up by the same number that his opponent goes down, instantly. A two’fer. What will you accept as proof ?

    http://thephaser.com/2020/11/smoking-gun-vote-fraud-caught-on-cnn/

    • MoleMan November 11, 2020 at 3:43 pm #

      Unbelievable. This is so ironclad–the images on a televised broadcast–people have to be insane not to see the fraud–especially as evidence of fraud in the entire 2020 election!

      Wait, this footage is from 2019?! Beshear has been governor for a year now and CISA investigated fraud claims from Bevins already and found none?
      Hmm. This doesn’t work so well for your argument, messiancidruid. Unless you traffic in time travel…

      Holy $hit, this mess of fake news and manipulation is insurmountable when people are this f-ing careless…

      https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-cnn-not-evidence-vote-fraud-idUSKBN27P2TI

  52. artg November 9, 2020 at 4:38 pm #

    I’m surprised there hasn’t been much mention of the South Carolina or suoer Tuesday primaries. Biden suddenly rose from the dead with no discussion of the anomaly. He lloked dead and gone before them.

    • BackRowHeckler November 9, 2020 at 5:04 pm #

      He looked dead

      Well they have machines you can be hooked up to now that simulate life … add botox, hair plugs, a skin job, capped teeth and about 6 facelifts, and there you have it, the President Elect.

      Like I said earlier Tom Perez and Keith Ellison won’t keep this human relic from the Watergate days around for too long.

  53. Figaro November 9, 2020 at 4:47 pm #

    Why the push to have Biden declared the winner as quickly as possible? According to my neurologist, all signs point to Biden now being in the second stage of Alzheime’s. And that’s a medical, not a political, opinion.

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 10, 2020 at 7:10 pm #

      To gain the “high ground” and get the populace used to the idea that he won…and make Trump look like a childish, sore loser for trying to discredit the means by which he “lost”.

      Much like people saw Gore in 2000, even though he was certainly as justified to say, “Hold your horses, folks, this ain’t over until we sort a few things out.”

      Trump becomes the one holding up the peaceful transfer of power in the eyes of the masses.

  54. scoubidou123 November 9, 2020 at 5:11 pm #

    The Pennsylvania case looks less frivolous than others, but I had a quick check and read that a) the contested votes were not included in the tally and b) they involve around 500 votes.

    If it’s the only thing keeping Trump hopes alive…

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    • KappaJoe November 9, 2020 at 5:19 pm #

      Your “information” is wrong.

  55. tom clark November 9, 2020 at 5:18 pm #

    Read it quick, gang. This post won’t see the light of day. Again I say, seriously, DTs Plan B should include replacing Alex Trebek (spelled right this time) as the new host of Jeopardy. He would be a calm and gracious host, just like his predecessor. It would be a real boost for MSM and would bring some street cred back to TV. What d’yall think?
    G’nite Kim.

    • vengeur November 9, 2020 at 5:28 pm #

      It wasn’t funny the first time you posted it.

    • hmuller November 11, 2020 at 4:51 pm #

      If he’s hired by Jeopardy I envision Trump looking at the answers on the board and dismissing them: “fake history, fake science, that one’s fake algebra”. The show’s writers and judges would have strokes.

  56. Soul Forensics November 9, 2020 at 5:22 pm #

    More details on the 132,000 Fulton County Georgia red-flagged votes. Recent loophole scam mail-in state law allows for any traveller or visitor or vacationer to get a change of address form, fill it out, and drop it in box. Voila! You’re a resident, and your vote counts the same as the granny who’s lived 90 years in that county. And Andrew Yang promoted the “vacations”.

    • Night Owl November 9, 2020 at 5:23 pm #

      In the past few hours, a tidal wave has started to build.

      #Biden Fraud

  57. FreddieMars November 9, 2020 at 5:31 pm #

    “Bad things happened, which our poll watchers weren’t allowed to see”
    – D J Trump, tweet. No doubt, Kim will be able to point out whether there’s a logical inconsistency in this statement?

    As well, there’s this:

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-election-lawsuits-grant-woods

    According to this GOP ex-AG of Arizona, the question comes down to the GOP suitors being apparently unable to provide any evidence, and so far none have even been heard. If there’s so much evidence, surely now is the time to present it? No doubt the answer is that she’s just a RINO.

    • benr November 9, 2020 at 5:58 pm #

      Try as you might you just can’t get your head around it.
      Funny how the hated Fox news has now signed on to the progressive destroy America agenda and now the former haters love it.

      https://www.oann.com/ga-nev-to-begin-investigations-into-election/

      Aside from a couple of talk show hosts Fox news viewership will crater.

      • Honey Process November 9, 2020 at 7:21 pm #

        Did Fox do a bad thing?

      • City_of_76 November 12, 2020 at 9:57 am #

        OANN! Hilarious! Their website must be put together by Mrs. Kennukey’s 8th grade science class, or maybe the 7th grade; at the moment, only the home page loads, and all links are broken. But check out that lede: “President Trump to win Mich. and Pa.” Oh, OK!

        If you’re silly enough to rely on OANN for your “news,” you’re going to get what you deserve.

        My question is, why are you Trumpoholics so devoted to a con-man, a guy who has less than zero interest in serving the United States of America?

        • Q. Shtik November 12, 2020 at 3:17 pm #

          put together by Mrs. Kennukey’s 8th grade science class – City of

          ============

          I am guessing you actually had a teacher named Mrs. Kennukey back in the day.

    • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 6:00 pm #

      The evidence is everywhere. You can’t see it because like a fish in water, corruption is the very medium in which you subsist.

      • Night Owl November 10, 2020 at 4:08 am #

        She can’t see it because the McMedia has told her it doesn’t exist.

        There is really no more to it than that.

        Not one original thought exists in that head.

    • Honey Process November 9, 2020 at 7:25 pm #

      Chris Christie has essentially said “put up or shut up”

      • Kim November 9, 2020 at 10:14 pm #

        @ Honey Process

        Chris Christie has essentially said “put up or shut up”

        They did put it up but he ate it.

    • Kim November 9, 2020 at 10:13 pm #

      @ FreddieMars

      “Bad things happened, which our poll watchers weren’t allowed to see”
      – D J Trump, tweet. No doubt, Kim will be able to point out whether there’s a logical inconsistency in this statement?

      This is how far I have bent you? You want to criticize the logic of Trump’s tweet but don’t trust yourself to get it right.

      Wow.

      Here, I’ll save you the anguish. The sentence is entirely logical.

      • FreddieMars November 10, 2020 at 8:05 pm #

        No, it’s not, and you know it.

  58. Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 5:48 pm #

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/MillionMagaMarch?src=hashtag_click

    White House, November 14th. Hopefully the Great Leader will come out and address his people. Stupid White House doesn’t have a balcony. Does that not speak volumes about this joint?

    In America 2.0 that will be remedied. The Holdness or the Aliens are scheduled to burn the White House down in the next twenty years or so anyway – so let’s rebuild Big.

    • Q. Shtik November 9, 2020 at 8:51 pm #

      Stupid White House doesn’t have a balcony. – Yo

      =========

      You mean like the one Mussolini stood on with arms akimbo some time before he was executed and hung upside down?

      • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 10:14 pm #

        The Hanged Man – the highest card in the Tarot deck. As ever, you defeat yourself. I just have to step out of the way.

        • Q. Shtik November 9, 2020 at 11:07 pm #

          The Hanged Man – the highest card in the Tarot deck. – Yo

          ============

          I’m sure that would be a great consolation to Mussolini as he swings in the breeze.

          It’s interesting that you are drawn to such BS as Tarot cards, old myths, and TV shows like Star Trek from which you draw more meaning than the Catholic religion which you claim to believe in in a half-assed sort of way. You’re a character, I’ll give you that much.

          • Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 12:56 am #

            All this because I abbreviate my name as Yoho and not Yoha or Yo?

            I’m going to abbreviate other ways too. Nothing to do with you. Just because.

            There is Meaning everywhere if one can see. Real art and drama helps us to see.

    • Kim November 9, 2020 at 10:14 pm #

      Of course no balcony. Why give them a clear shot?

      • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 10:21 pm #

        A valid practical point.

    • hmuller November 10, 2020 at 12:29 am #

      What are you talking about, Yohannon?! The White House has a second floor balcony facing the south lawn. They call it “the Truman Balcony” because it was completely rebuilt on his watch. Google it.

      • Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 12:58 am #

        It’s so low though. How can a vast crowd see El Duce, the Sweet One? Or from Kim’s perspective, get a clear shot. Of from Q’s, swing the corpse well. Truly we have a descending hierarchy here. Q takes right into hell.

        • FreddieMars November 11, 2020 at 4:29 pm #

          “El Duce, the Sweet One

          Huh?

          Janos, “La Dolce” would be The Sweet One.

          El Duce means The Leader, like, you know, Der Fuerher in German. I would have expected a committed National Socialist to know this.

  59. Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 5:58 pm #

    Fox news cuts away from Kayleigh McEnany as she speaks about the steal. We need to boycott these Leftist Traitors. Any real talent they have, like Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham, need to get out of there. Ditto for a few others like Greg Gutfield and Sean Hannity. Where to? I don’t know. Some of them are big enough to make it on their own at this point.

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      • Soul Forensics November 9, 2020 at 6:02 pm #

        Cavuto’s a cuck.

        • hmuller November 10, 2020 at 12:32 am #

          And i always found his head abnormally large. He has the body proportions of an enlarged baby. Creepy.

        • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 8:52 am #

          Fox is in the process of wrecking their network and becoming another CNN. For the best, really, only guy on there worth a damn is Tucker.

    • FreddieMars November 9, 2020 at 9:28 pm #

      How about Trump News Network?

      Mr. Trump can surely get OANN to rebrand itself (for a modest annual fee).

      • Kim November 9, 2020 at 10:16 pm #

        Well, he would bring 80 million viewers with him.

  60. smoothtom November 9, 2020 at 6:03 pm #

    Jim, I’m not sure which is degrading faster: your sanity, or your writing style.

    • Exscotticus November 9, 2020 at 6:33 pm #

      Show us your blog and many published books and novels. What? Don’t have any?! Oops!

      • hmuller November 10, 2020 at 12:36 am #

        I wonder how long it took “smoothtom” to come up with such a priceless observation? He sports the verbal equivalent of a drive by shooting – let’s call it – a drive-by reviling.

        • Kim November 10, 2020 at 6:08 am #

          A drive-by drivelling!

  61. John1945 November 9, 2020 at 6:29 pm #

    The fact that Mr.Biden is dead does not mean that he cant stand trial for his crimes-like sponsoring BLM/Antifa riots or wholesale theft of votes.

    Historical precedent-Cadaver Synod aka Synodus Horrenda:

    “The Cadaver Synod is the name commonly given to the posthumous ecclesiastical trial of Pope Formosus, who himself had been deceased for about 7 months, in the Basilica of St. John Lateran in Rome during January 897.

    The trial was conducted by Pope Stephen VI, the successor to Formosus’ successor, Pope Boniface VI.

    Stephen had Formosus’ corpse exhumed and brought to the papal court for judgment. He accused Formosus of perjury and of having acceded to the papacy illegally.

    At the end of the trial, Formosus was pronounced guilty and his papacy retroactively declared null.”

    All Mr.Biden property after the trial must be seized and sold,proceeds going directly to the small business owners in Portland and Seattle and Chicago.

  62. Kim November 9, 2020 at 6:35 pm #

    @ Green Alba

    You attempted to upbraid me in the last post JHK and yet once again you have made a fool of yourself. To quote you:
    ……………………………………………………………………………………………
    “On Brexit because one side overspent its campaign budget, they had to have a revote, it was demanded by the losers.”

    “[…] they had to have a revote […]

    Right, oh bastion of integrity, perhaps you could give us details of this revote, such as when and where it took place.

    Meanwhile, the job of the Electoral Commission is to oversee elections and ensure that they take place according to the rules, including the rules regarding funding. Hence the rulings regarding the misdemeanors you cite.

    ‘This kind of sloppy thinking and expression […]’ etc. etc.

    …………………………………………………………………………………..

    I have replied:

    @ Green dimwit

    Learn to read. What you think you read is not in fact what I wrote.

    Try again. I wrote:

    “On Brexit because one side overspent its campaign budget, they had to have a revote, it was demanded by the losers.

    Alba, this does not say a re-vote happened. Rather, it clearly says that it was demanded.

    You might also like to read the associated link, which explains this.

    By the way, is it typical of me to write such a clumsy sentence?

    No, it isn’t. So why do you think that sentence is worded as it is? Why did I not correct it?

    Well I left it like that because I 100% knew – on a topic which you regard as your Mastermind subject – that you would try to pick on it and in your childish eagerness to berate me you would fuck it up and yet again demonstrate that you are a simpleton.

    You are not only an idiot, you are entirely out of your depth.

    • GreenAlba November 9, 2020 at 7:35 pm #

      Kim-laddie

      My fulsome apologies for misreading your sentence.

      How are those three apologies of your own coming along? As I’ve mentioned before I’d have been more than happy with refutations instead, but they weren’t forthcoming, so I guess the apologies remain on the balance sheet.

      What is it, do you think, in your personality, that makes you so keen to demand, either explicitly or implicitly, apologies from others (even occasionally claiming to accept an apology which has not even been proffered, yet you find it entirely impossible to spit out an apology yourself? Is it something in your upbringing or an innate flaw, do you think?

      And while you’re thinking about it, do let us have your reports from when you were an overseer for those elections in Belarus that you were able assure us had absolutely no significant instances of malfeasance?

      I must say, though, it’s fascinating to be lectured on reading comprehension by someone who can’t tell the difference between a theoretical point and an admission of personal practice (that was the first time you made a complete fool of yourself, you may recall), in your desperation to be obnoxious.

      Although you probably won’t recall. I don’t know how many times I’ve had to point our your own explicit contradictions of your own assertions to you.

      • GreenAlba November 9, 2020 at 7:36 pm #

        Oh, and there was a small matter of the million dollars you wagered.

        In your own time …

      • malthuss November 9, 2020 at 11:41 pm #

        You are not an idiot.
        You are Peak Oils Leftist Grand Dame.

        [You are not only an idiot, you are entirely out of your depth.].

        • GreenAlba November 10, 2020 at 9:48 am #

          malthuss

          It would be better if you could accompany your judgement with some citations of my stated opinions on the matter. But why should I expect honesty?

          You have a good line in repeating other people’s slurs, though, like a forlorn but unimaginative echo. Remember the good old days when you made up your own? And the time you flung one that was so nasty it was deleted? I didn’t see it before it went. Tant pis. Or perhaps tant mieux.

          Peak Oil’s very much supposed Grande Dame walks the walk, having got rid of her car almost 20 years ago. She doesn’t make anyone else get rid of theirs. Nothing ‘leftist’ about that, malthuss. Nothing ‘leftist’ either about only flying three or four times during that period, and always at the behest of others, since being mean and making people miserable is not a good thing either.

          But, just now, given that (a) she could be dead soon, perhaps, or maybe just soon-ish, and (b) buses are not perhaps the best place to be at the moment, she’s been wondering silently for a few months if she should just go and buy one, and let her less-bothered neighbours take a turn at doing without, or not, as they see fit.

          Perhaps the very much supposed Grande Dame is entitled to a share of the dwindling resource as much as them, especially since she’s been without a car for more of her adult life than she’s been with one in any case.

          But, whatever the case, ‘leftist’ is a word that should be used with as much care as any other.

          • BackRowHeckler November 10, 2020 at 1:44 pm #

            Take my advice, GA: get yourself a Dodge Power Wagon. For krissake life is short, live a little. Big goddam Ram hood onament on there, 520 cu in Hemi, 4wd position traction w/overdrive, 18″ wheels … sure you’ll get only 9 mpg, but so what, you’ll be the envy of Edinburg — pack up that mother with Webley Bulldog revolver, a Lee Enfield .303 Mark 111, a camp stove and a sleeping bag, head out to the Highlands (avoid the MacDonald clan, they’re suspicious of outsiders, but that’s what the Webley Bulldog is for).

            Brh

          • GreenAlba November 10, 2020 at 3:30 pm #

            Haha – I knew you’d have some advice, brh.

            I looked up the Dodge Power Wagon!! You should see the street I live in.

            Anyway, it’s only a thought. Probably won’t even happen. I’ve never mentioned it to my husband as he’d think I’d lost the plot. He’s just this minute been talking about all the people who just have cars because other people have one and how getting rid of ours was the best thing we ever did.

            So shanks’ pony for now, but I’ll let you know if I take the plunge, You won’t be impressed by a low-end Golf or a Fiesta though. I used to have a Honda Civic, but it would have been an early 90s model.

      • malthuss November 9, 2020 at 11:42 pm #

        fulsome has many meanings, some seemingly opposite.

        • GreenAlba November 10, 2020 at 9:51 am #

          Gosh. That’s never happened before! 🙂

    • GreenAlba November 9, 2020 at 7:47 pm #

      “So why do you think that sentence is worded as it is? Why did I not correct it?”

      Because you’re my personal troll, desperate to achieve vengeance for the three (possibly four) times you made a complete idiot of yourself by rushing in without thinking first.

    • FreddieMars November 10, 2020 at 8:25 pm #

      What a super-clever tricky trickster you are!

      Given that you cannot see the illogicality of Mr. Trump’s tweet that “Bad things happened, that we weren’t allowed to see”, I guess it’s actually no surprise that you mangled that sentence so badly.

      As is your wont, based on your history with Green Alba and your adoration of your “God -Emperor”, it’s no surprise that you cannot admit you fucked it up.

      Your tortured justification that it was, in fact, a cunning trap is as big a joke as “I have all the best words!” and “No one knows more about nuclear than me”.

  63. sjpurtill November 9, 2020 at 6:35 pm #

    Jim, not only have you taken leave of your senses and turned this blog and this comment section into a parade of delusion, but by failing to mention the single funniest moment in the history of American politics, you have also seemingly lost your once terrific sense of humor.

    • benr November 10, 2020 at 9:10 am #

      @JIM Kunstler

      Can you tell when an account was created?
      It seems like you have a parade of idiots who say the same nonsense over and over but I would make ten dollar bet its just one or two people.
      Would love to see this troll outed for being the same person posting the same tripe over and over.

      • MoleMan November 11, 2020 at 8:53 pm #

        @benr
        At least in my case, your theory is quite incorrect. I’ve been reading JHK’s books and blog for quite some time. There are some of us out here who have witnessed a “radical” shift in Mr. Kunstler’s outlook and proclivities. And the comments section has gotten uglier and uglier in the past four years (weird coincidence?). When you model and condone too-fast thinking/typing with a hyperbolic prose style, you might just inspire a whole cadre of insipid acolytes.

        Here is one example of Mr. K’s shift. This excerpt is from his post “Party of Cruelty” from 2010, found here: https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the_party_of_cruelty/

        Note that the party he criticizes has not changed one bit in those 10 years, with nearly all of the same main characters at work. Note also that Trump has not drained the swamp of these folks, and has in fact ditched much of his populist swagger (in reality, if not in twitter language) for a solid GOP line.

        Now, anyone is entitled to change their mind along the way, and I actually value flexibility of thought in this fashion (Lord knows few of the posters on the comment thread these days have even a sliver of this ability), but note the language and approach that Mr. K applies to the GOP in this post…and how it oddly mirrors the exact things he says about the Dems now. The truth is in the middle, as it always is, and some of us who have been tuning in to Kunstler for many years are dismayed that he’s chosen to go–as is widely trendy these days–über partisan.

        Here’s an excerpt:
        “It was amusing to see the Republican party inveigh against health insurance reform as if they were a synod of Presbyterian necromancers girding the nation for a takeover by the spawn of hell. This was the same gang, by the way, who championed the Medicare Prescription Drug Improvement and Modernization Act of 2003, then regarded as the most reckless giveaway of public funds in human history. Along the way, they enlisted an army of nay-sayers representing everything dark, disgraceful, and ignorant in the American character. If the Republicans keep going this way, they’ll end up with something worse than Naziism: a party that hates everything but believes in absolutely nothing.”
        “At least this once a workable majority in the government has stood up to the forces of cruelty and injustice, and whatever else happens to us in the course of this long emergency, it will be a good thing if the party of fairness and justice identifies its adversaries for what they are: not “partners in governing,” or any such academical-therapeutic bullshit, but enemies of every generous impulse in the national character.
        I hope that Mr. Obama’s party can carry this message clearly into the electoral battles ahead, painting the Republican opposition for what it is: a gang of hypocritical, pietistic sadists, seeking pleasure in the suffering of others while pretending to be Christians, devoid of sympathy, empathy, or any inclination to simple human kindness, constant breakers of the Golden Rule, enemies of the common good. In fact, the current edition of the Republican party has achieved something really memorable in the annals of collective bad intentions: they have managed to create a sense of the public interest whose main goal is the destruction of the public interest.”

        “…devoid of sympathy, empathy, or any inclination to simple human kindness, constant breakers of the Golden Rule, enemies of the common good…”
        I can think of no better description of the people and posts on this comment thread. For simply disagreeing with some people and asking for logical responses, I have been accused of being an SJW troll, and empty-headed fuck, a sheeple of the MSM, a “jazz-swabber”…shall I go on? Real fine upstanding folks. And these are the one’s that Mr. K enables…

        That is why, benr, some of us are pushing back on the quality and tone of this blog these days.

        • MoleMan November 11, 2020 at 9:03 pm #

          I’m pleased to add this one correction: that aspersion I noted should read “jizz swabber.” Quality machismo, there.

      • MoleMan November 11, 2020 at 9:15 pm #

        Dang, @benr, I hadn’t read further down the thread. Let me also include your own energetic poetry to the list!

        “I always find it odd people like you keep posting drivel even when ass raped with actual fact but here you are posting tid bits of nothing gleaned from what, hatred?
        Look in that mirror what do you see?
        Must be one ugly reflection having been digging around in the muck of lies for the last four years.

        Did you suck off at the table of Obama propaganda and release of bad news on Fridays?”

        Would you like to ask JKH if he sucked off Obama in that post of his from 2010?

        The hypocrisy and vulgarity-brandished-as-a-sign-of-virility are beneath you.

  64. Kim November 9, 2020 at 6:40 pm #

    @ JHK

    “He’s a daisy, our president.”

    I had a full, genuine laugh-out-loud at this. Perfect summation. Thanks.

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  65. John1945 November 9, 2020 at 6:42 pm #

    To put it mildly-Oath Keepers military cats are extremely not amused by the Democrat crimes and the Great Pretenders posing as President and Vice President of I-Do-Not-Know-What:

    https://oathkeepers.org/2020/11/america-in-limbo-due-to-2020-election/

    • Honey Process November 9, 2020 at 7:16 pm #

      Can you enlighten me on just what oath these Oath Keepers are keeping?

      • benr November 10, 2020 at 3:16 pm #

        Have you used your intellect and bothered to look at their webpage?
        I am sure they have a mission statement for intrepid readers such as yourself.
        You’re welcome.

      • FreddieMars November 10, 2020 at 8:35 pm #

        from wikipedia.com:

        ‘Oath Keepers is an American far-right[1] anti-government[2][3][4][5][6] militia organization.[7] The group describes itself as a non-partisan association of current and former military, police, and first responders, who pledge to fulfill the oath that all military and police take in order to “defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic”.[8] It encourages its members to not obey orders which they believe would violate the United States Constitution. The organization claims a membership of 35,000 as of 2016.[9]’

        From oathkeepers.org:

        ‘Oath Keepers reaches out to both current serving and veterans to remind them of their oaths, to teach them more about the Constitution they swore to defend, and to inspire them to defend it. See below for details on how we do that. Oath Keepers also includes a membership program designated as “Associate Members”, which consists of patriotic citizens who have not served in uniform but who serve now by supporting this mission with their Associate Membership and volunteer activities. Oath Keepers welcomes our Associate Members and appreciates their support of our mission.

        It purports to be non-partisan, but its landing page looks pretty partisan, all in all,

  66. tucsonspur November 9, 2020 at 6:55 pm #

    We are now in the first two stages of the classic Kubler-Ross grief cycle- Denial, Anger.

    I’ve charted a new grief cycle called the Spur-Cycle. The old one is Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression and Acceptance.

    The Spur Cycle is Denial, Anger, Planning, Inspiration and Resistance.

    If you want, you can add in Shock, like the Biden Shock.

    If Trump wins NC, Georgia, and Arizona it gives him another 42 votes bringing his total to 256. If he won Michigan also he’d have 272, Pennsylvania and not Michigan, 276.

    Big ifs, but the incentive for vigorous court challenges is there.

    • FreddieMars November 9, 2020 at 8:29 pm #

      Tucsonspur

      To date, as far as I can see, all the Republican suits put to any courts have been dismissed – that is, not even heard – due to what the court considers to be a lack of evidence.

      Of course, these have been lodged in State courts, and no doubt there’ll be an argument that the judges are partisan (what else can explain it?), but perhaps those put so far have been trivial and without substance.

      So, when is The Big One coming, the one that Night Owl has alluded to (with regard to secretly ‘watermarked’ ballots) which will somehow provide the irrefutable truth of the fraud?

      As I understand it, the route to the Supreme Court is by way of appeals against lower court rulings. So far, there’s nothing to appeal against.

  67. tucsonspur November 9, 2020 at 7:20 pm #

    The Tucson sage (no, no ,no, not brush) has stood strong and wise:

    https://news.yahoo.com/how-trump-fumbled-the-coronavirus-crisis-and-sabotaged-his-own-reelection-190428870.html

    No doubt about it, just look at the numbers, he could have won this outright.

    • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 10:18 pm #

      By making everyone wear masks all the time so we could live forever, right? Or as your hero Dr Fauci says, Maaasks.

      • tucsonspur November 10, 2020 at 1:18 am #

        Many are called, but few are chosen.
        On Resurrection Day my mask will rise with me, and upon my Ascension my mask will become my halo.

        Leave that place of weeping and gnashing of teeth!

        Peace, peace to all as the Great Tragedy comes in with the cold, bitter Winter and tries to freeze our souls.

  68. BackRowHeckler November 9, 2020 at 7:33 pm #

    Well, Chinese govt this week, using the US election as cover, have made mass arrests in Hong Kong. Australia and Canada reveal plans to evacuate its citizens from HK as the situation dictates.

    Thanks Joe!

  69. tucsonspur November 9, 2020 at 7:44 pm #

    FORE!

    Thanks, Jim. Thanksgiving is coming up, but We have a splendid feast every week!

    Yes, it was foretold. But will there be fore more years?

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    • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 10:20 pm #

      He gloats.

  70. BackRowHeckler November 9, 2020 at 7:46 pm #

    Xi Jing Ping has Joe by the shorties. Its not for nothing he forked over $3 billion to Hunter; what, you think Xi is stupid? Well, he didn’t get to rule over a nation of 1.5 billion people by being stupid. He’s got his own man in the White House, that’s how stupid he is.

  71. scrooge November 9, 2020 at 8:30 pm #

    You guys should start a movement to secede. You will never be happy with the libs. Probably take about 4 years to work out the details. Start with a constitutional convention go from there.

  72. roccofire November 9, 2020 at 9:01 pm #

    Salutations JHK:

    I always enjoy your view of the world, I do not always agree with it, but appreciate your insight, and witty observations concerning the fall of the federation. BUT, I was once in my youth, a Democrat and a town leader of my election districts. My job to go to the polling places and collect the count. A few times I as the Democrat and the other fellow a Republican were asked to verify count, beforehand each election inspector from both parties did. Those were the old just pull the lever machines. Political active folks in our town were a small group ,many knew each other. Everyone watched, many folks, many eyes. I am really worried about talk of false presidents, or results, please tread lightly.
    PS had a patient with covid and TB, mother nature is coming, but don’t forget to BUY BUY many Christmas sales on now.

  73. John1945 November 9, 2020 at 9:43 pm #

    After reading this article in my beloved WaPo I feel particularly enlightened.

    We all must learn from South f… Africa !!!

    “The best way to respond to our history of racism? A Truth and Reconciliation Commission.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/30/best-way-respond-our-history-racism-truth-reconciliation-commission/

    Imagine taking knee, trying to look aggrieved & sincere, before this General Court Martial of Racial Justice.

    3 enlisted panel members will be ‘hood rats from Chicago,the rest-imported South African Professors like Olúfe??mi Táíwò my a$$

    Well,if Mr.Trump somehow fails to incarcerate The Corpse cum Whore of Babylon – then the only place for Mr.Trump to be is Jerry Springer show.

    • BackRowHeckler November 10, 2020 at 5:26 am #

      Whites in SA down to about 6% of the population. Ranchers and farmers being murdered at an alarming rate, and many hundreds of thousands of poor whites living in squatters camps, which are raided regularly by black gangs. As it stands now any SA whites who could get out, have gotten out. White South Africans who remain in the country are doomed, altho there are a few countries who have expressed a willingness to help them — Russia, NZ, Israel and Australia come to mind, there may be others.

      All this information is out there for anyone who cares to look.

      Brh

      • benr November 10, 2020 at 3:18 pm #

        They can’t get a visa SA won’t allow them to leave.
        Best friends nephew has a job waiting here in San Diego and someone willing to vouch for him.
        They have denied his request several times now.

  74. DrGonzo November 9, 2020 at 10:20 pm #

    Oh FFS. When will Jim start spouting the Q-Anon conspiracy theories, for Christ’s sake? You know, the satanic child-killing rituals that Hillary is coordinating out of thebasement of a pizza parlor in Chicago? Or whatever is the Fox Nooze fever dream of the week?

    JHK has gone full baths!t right wing Trump Cult enabler. And why not? So has one-third of America. So pissed at the media “elites” that they will follow Steve Bannon down any rabbit hole. Anything to piss off their liberal sister-in-law.

    If the Dems were so masterful at gaming the election for Biden, how did they manage to screw up so many Senate and Congressional elections?

    Biden’s margin, while slim, is considerably greater than Trump’s was in 2016. But we didn’t whine like you sore crybabies. Waaaaah. Life is so unfair! Waaaaah. Biden got 4.5 million more votes than a corrupt narcissistic reality TV dweeb! Waaaaah. How is that even possible? Why doesn’t everyone love the racist wannabe dictator like we do???? Waaaaaaaaah.

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    • Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 10:59 pm #

      Get thee gonzo, devil.

      It doesn’t care about the Truth, only victory. The ethos of War. Then they talk of unity and coming together. They want to eat us in other words.

    • hmuller November 10, 2020 at 12:42 am #

      “But we didn’t whine like you sore crybabies. Waaaaah” – DrGonzo

      Oh, I think you did. In fact the whining went on for 4 years without let-up.

      • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 8:50 am #

        They forget the ‘pussy hat’ rallies? RussiaRussiaRussia? “Resistance!” “By any means necessary!” “We will report on this administration the way we do an enemy regime.”

        They never accepted the results of 16′. I don’t think the Union is a stable entity- the population has no faith in the system, no reason to have faith in the system, and it seems there is no way to restore that faith.

        Fun times.

    • Night Owl November 10, 2020 at 4:41 am #

      Dr. Gonzo,

      https://twitter.com/PEPEANDFRENS/status/1326032009458839554

  75. toktomi November 9, 2020 at 10:31 pm #

    What do you suppose the world would look like
    If the creature was predisposed
    To protracted hypothetical thinking?

    Would the definitive characterizations of reality
    Ever be missed,
    Do you suppose?

    What would it matter to neither
    Believe nor Disbelieve?
    When all along there is the wondrous option
    To choose to behave as if one’s opinion
    Is true? Or not.
    When mental vision, I see, is composed merely of opinions
    That are ever evolving pixels in one’s world view?
    To be updated constantly by new points of reference and evidence.

    What happens when billions of hypothetical dots fluidly connect
    three dimensionally?
    Does all of this silly shit and lies then look like just so much
    Silly shit and lies?

    Aside: And as to “why”…
    All things occur as a result of all the things that have occurred.
    That’s why.
    So, quit asking that stupid question,
    Especially of children.

    We will now return you to normal broadcasting… and the Beaver.

    ~toktomi~

  76. Kim November 9, 2020 at 10:52 pm #

    Wow? Am I the first to post this?

    Via Andrew Anglin, covering a report from AXIOS.

    Here is the AXIOS link:

    https://www.axios.com/trump-legal-strategy-fraud-45ab43eb-c5bd-4710-a227-0dceacebb511.html

    Here is Anglin’s report quoting Axios:

    Report: Donald Trump is Planning Massive Anti-Fraud Rallies Across the United States!

    AXIOS are now saying that it is confirmed behind the scenes that Donald Trump is indeed planning a series of massive campaign rallies in order to bring the evidence of fraud directly to the American people.

    From Axios:

    QUOTE
    President Trump plans to brandish obituaries of people who supposedly voted but are dead — plus hold campaign-style rallies — in an effort to prolong his fight against apparent insurmountable election results, four Trump advisers told me during a conference call this afternoon.

    What we’re hearing: Obits for those who cast ballots are part of the “specific pieces of evidence” aimed at bolstering the Trump team’s so-far unsupported claims of widespread voter fraud and corruption that they say led to Joe Biden’s victory.

    Fueling the effort is the expected completion of vote counting this week, allowing Republicans to file for more recounts.

    What’s next: Team Trump is ready to announce specific recount teams in key states, and it plans to hold a series of Trump rallies focused on the litigation.

    In Georgia: Doug Collins, the outgoing congressman who lost to Sen. Kelly Loeffler in a special election to fill former Sen. Johnny Isakson’s seat, will be leading the campaign’s recount efforts. The team has also redeployed 92 staffers from Florida to Georgia, doubling its group on the ground.

    In Arizona: Kory Langhofer, former counsel for Trump’s 2016 transition, will serve as lead attorney.

    In Pennsylvania: Porter Wright’s Ron Hicks is heading up the legal effort.

    Nationwide: They’re assembling additional surrogates and lawyers.

    “We want to make sure we have an adequate supply of manpower on the ground for man-to-man combat,” one adviser said.

    The group is also staffing a campaign-style media operation.

    The team led by Trump communications director Tim Murtaugh is now a surrogate messaging center. It will pump out “regular press briefings, releases on legal action and obviously things like talking points and booking people strategically on television,” one adviser said.

    They’ll also make a big play to raise money for their legal defense fund.

    Trump’s formal legal team includes 2020 campaign manager Bill Stepien, lawyer Justin Clark, and senior advisers Jason Miller and David Bossie.

    ENDQUOTE

    • Kim November 9, 2020 at 10:54 pm #

      I wonder who much coverage FOX might give these rallies?

      If 50,000 people turn up at a rally to see the President is that news?

      Or will they cut to file footage from the New York State Cat Show?

    • Honey Process November 9, 2020 at 10:58 pm #

      I fully expect the former president to pay for his own gas.

      • Kim November 10, 2020 at 12:31 am #

        Airforce One, full Secret Service entourage, motorcades and the bully pulpit of the incumbent and you’ll pay for it and you’ll love it.

        He might even make Mexico pay for some of it.

      • BackRowHeckler November 10, 2020 at 4:14 am #

        Why should he pay for his own gas? The new Chief Diversity Coordinator at Ohio State — whose 1st name is Jabbar — (the job pays $345,000 per year) gets the free use of a new car, plus $7000 yearly for gas.

        • FreddieMars November 12, 2020 at 6:29 am #

          His rallies are straight-up fundraisers. Why should taxpayers keep footing his bill?

      • benr November 10, 2020 at 12:27 pm #

        Obama probably does pay for his own gas.

        Is it stupidity, or ignorance?
        Could it be your cupidity to sow division that drives you thus?
        I always find it odd people like you keep posting drivel even when ass raped with actual fact but here you are posting tid bits of nothing gleaned from what, hatred?
        Look in that mirror what do you see?
        Must be one ugly reflection having been digging around in the muck of lies for the last four years.

        Did you suck off at the table of Obama propaganda and release of bad news on Fridays?

  77. Yohannon November 9, 2020 at 10:54 pm #

    https://usforthem.co.uk/open-letter-from-health-professionals-and-scientists-to-the-prime-minister

    The First Do No Harm letter written to Boris Johnson in a desperate attempt to stop the coming lockdown. Signed by 469 health professionals, although only a few of them are listed publicly from what I can see.

    In other news, a vaccine is almost here with a supposed 90% efficacy – just as Trump indicated. Remembered how they lampooned him for this? They are trusting we will not remember – the absolute shits.

    • Honey Process November 9, 2020 at 10:59 pm #

      The CEO of Pfizer has already stated that the comically named ‘Operation Warp Speed’ had nothing to do with this vaccine.

      • Kim November 10, 2020 at 12:39 am #

        Pfizer? Pfizer? Now here do I know that name from? Oh, I know!

        Great spokeman you have there.

        Pfizer fined $2.3 billion for illegal marketing in off-label drug case

        Justice Department Announces Largest Health Care Fraud Settlement in Its History

        Pfizer to Pay $2.3 Billion for Fraudulent Marketing

        ……………………………….

        Of course, this fine was levied on Pfizer after previously “paying a fine of $75 million for illegally testing an antibiotic on African children…”

        Ha ha ha! Quality people, those Big Pharma types!

        “The $2.3 billion settlement is the fourth that Pfizer has reached out of court since 2002 for illegal marketing activities.”

        People of the highest standards of probity! Outstanding citizens!

      • benr November 10, 2020 at 12:20 pm #

        Gee ever wonder why he would do that?
        Could he be a leftist turd like you and not want to give the current President a win?

    • Kim November 10, 2020 at 12:26 am #

      Biden has been declared the winner! You can now all emerge from our chrysalides!

      You were in hibernation, but now you are woke!

  78. aibohphobia November 9, 2020 at 11:03 pm #

    Jim & all,
    Thanks as always for your stimulating and thought-provoking essay!
    I gotta say, however, that I am beginning to wonder, “Where’s the Beef?”
    With regard to revealing the Biden family’s corruption and the involvement of Leading Democrats and the FBI and other agencies–What is President Trump waiting for?
    Now is the time to tell all and bring it all out into the open.
    Let’s see the smoking guns, the coke straws with Hunter’s nose-prints on them, the cancelled checks with Biden’s name on them from Ukranian strongmen, etc., etc., and let’s see them presented in court–

    Aibo — The president himself does not have standing to bring cases to the federal courts himself. He could declassify documents, though by doing so it would surely compromise ongoing cases not yet brought to trial. Your comment is ridiculous. — JHK Admin

    If the President does not take action on these fronts, and soon, people will become increasingly convinced that there is no basis to these claims, and that maybe they were always just the concoctions of propaganda-meisters of one sort or another.
    And as for voting fraud, a pundit of the Left said something like, “We lost seats to Republicans in the House and Senate–If we are doing voting fraud, we suck at it!”
    This is actually a good point. If the Dems really did conspire to commit a massive voting fraud, why did they not tip the scales in just enough House and Senate races to get themselves a majority in both of them? That’s a trivial task compared to rigging many hundreds of thousands of votes all across America.
    I’ll give Trump a week or two to come up with some hard facts heading for a court of law. But if it’s just more pronouncements at the rallies of his fans and no action behind them, he might as well head back to the golf course and stay there…

    • HapMan November 9, 2020 at 11:44 pm #

      Well said.

      If there is credible evidence of wrongdoing by the Bidens, let Barr’s DOJ bring charges, at long last.

      If there is credible evidence of voting fraud, let the DOJ or state AGs bring charges, and let Trump’s lawyers present that evidence to the courts in their myriad lawsuits.

      Of course, none of this will be forthcoming.

      But the Trump cult, egged on by internet trolls and fringe media (foreign and domestic), will carry on with these fictions until the end of time.

      • Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 1:03 am #

        Yeah about 30 Republicucks went to Barr to ask him to do that. Serious people know he’s a Deep Stater and will do nothing.

        Watch Tucker’s monologue tonight. We already have a huge number of sworn affidavits about the cheating that was witnessed. In case you don’t know, that is evidence admissable in court. Other evidence too. You wanted to know, right? Right?

        • HapMan November 10, 2020 at 1:06 pm #

          An affidavit is a written, sworn, signed out-of-court statement averring certain facts.

          From perusing the news reports about various affidavits being cited, it looks like most are describing facts that, even if true, amount to a whole lot of nothing.

          One “affidavit” being touted out of Nevada, I believe, did not even include the name and signature of the supposed affiant, so it’s really nothing more than a piece of paper with the word “affidavit” typed on it.

          So it’s hard not to see this as a bunch of legal Hail Marys and political theater designed to incite the low-information crowd and create optionality for Trump in his endgame.

          Moreover, affidavits are generally considered hearsay and will not be admitted in these types of cases, absent confirming in-court testimony from the affiant.

          Regardless, let’s see what survives contact with the courts, the DOJ and the AGs. Again I predict it will be little or (more likely) nothing.

      • tucsonspur November 10, 2020 at 1:42 am #

        I was disappointed in Tucker tonight. He said that the solution to all of this mess, to this boiling cauldron of conflict and confusion, is to all stop lying to one another, and he said this with emphasis.

        He also pointed out the many outright threats made by Democrats against anybody who opposes the new regime. Now there’s nothing wrong with telling the truth, but here it almost seems like saying that the solution to war is peace.

        I guess you can’t go on the air and say that there is no solution, except a bloody one or submission, but That would have been telling the truth.

        Even Tucker is caught in the web of confusion.

      • Night Owl November 10, 2020 at 4:13 am #

        “No evidence” the HalfMan cried.

        Low IQ.

        • Kim November 10, 2020 at 6:01 am #

          Yes. Definitely a low IQ individual.

          • HapMan November 10, 2020 at 1:07 pm #

            Yet you two are the ones who need to make your livings as internet trolls.

        • malthuss November 10, 2020 at 10:21 am #

          half boy half man?

    • FreddieMars November 12, 2020 at 2:40 pm #

      Apparently, election fraud is becoming a matter of faith:

      https://youtu.be/VZ_0ORgyBDM

  79. Soul Forensics November 9, 2020 at 11:19 pm #

    ” ‘We lost seats to Republicans in the House and Senate–If we are doing voting fraud, we suck at it! ‘ ”

    You just answered your own question.

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    • Kim November 10, 2020 at 12:22 am #

      @ Soul Forensics

      They have even more problems than the average Dem thinks.

      In the end, if say the Supreme Court cannot provide a solution, the election of the President and VP may come down to a vote in the House of Reps.

      Such a vote involves the incoming Congress with just one vote per state (as determined, I believe, by the various state legislatures).

      Currently, Rs control 29 states with 2 states split. So that should result in a 30 to 20 win for Trump.

      A landslide!

      This comment just reflects my recent reading. Corrections are welcome.

      • Epicur November 10, 2020 at 12:27 am #

        Law professors say the Electoral College Act is not that clear. If it cannot be decided the Speaker of the House becomes POTUS. Nancy “Pelosi Galore” is Madame President.

        https://en.as.com/en/2020/11/03/latest_news/1604414638_037340.html

        • Kim November 10, 2020 at 12:52 am #

          @ Epicur

          Reading your link the following refers to holding a “contingent election” resulting from the inability to determine (by whom, the Supreme Court? this is unclear) that either candidate had secured a majority of electoral votes:

          Any election dispute in Congress would play out ahead of a strict deadline – Jan. 20, when the Constitution mandates that the term of the current president ends.

          Under the Presidential Succession Act, if Congress still has not declared a presidential or vice presidential winner by then, the Speaker of the House would serve as acting president. Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat from California, is the current speaker.

          71 days remain before then. One assumes the Supremes would act with due despatch and that once the matter moves to a House of Reps vote, it should be over quickly.

          The problem with understanding this stuff is that all of the people offering their analysis are such unclear writers.

          • Kim November 10, 2020 at 12:53 am #

            My point is, this would all be decided before Jan 20, I expect. So I doubt we will see Pres. Pelosi.

          • Epicur November 10, 2020 at 8:07 am #

            @ Kim,

            “My point is, this would all be decided before Jan 20, I expect. So I doubt we will see Pres. Pelosi.”

            I certainly hope not, but there seem to be doubts about the clarity of the Act. I am not qualified to judge, especially so since I have not even read it.

            The lawsuit I linked earlier seems quite serious and well founded. The list of the dead voters I linked earlier in a reply to City_of_76 looks quite well documented.

            I think that Mr. K is right. This is going to play out for quite a while yet. The President’s hand is strong. I think it is significant that this man (linked) resigned. Looks like he did not have the stomach for hardball.

            https://www.zerohedge.com/political/ag-william-barr-authorizes-justice-department-probe-voter-fraud

      • Soul Forensics November 10, 2020 at 12:40 am #

        @Kim

        My understanding is that it’s closer, but with Repubs still clear. But I could be wrong.

        • Kim November 10, 2020 at 12:54 am #

          Who doesn’t love a cliffhanger?

    • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 8:46 am #

      The undervote factor might be involved here. Lazy fraudsmiths that only filled out the top line race and left the rest blank to save time.

      Also computer tricks aimed solely at Trump. The desire to get rid of the man was rather bipartisan in many regards- note that Cindy McCain is helping ‘advise’ the Biden transition team.

  80. Kim November 10, 2020 at 1:05 am #

    Lindsay Graham says this looks like ballot harvesting, which is illegal in Pennsylvania. Currently just his assertion, of course.

    https://trulytimes.com/possible-ballot-harvesting-in-pennsylvania-involving-25000-nursing-home-residents.html

    Sen. Lindsey Graham said on Monday he has received information about potential ballot harvesting in Pennsylvania nursing homes.

    The chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee revealed that there were up to 25,000 cases that are being looked at.

    “I’ve got more information. We’re now finding potentially that 25,000 nursing home residents in different nursing homes requested mail-in ballots at the exact same time,” the South Carolina Republican said on Fox News.

    “You can’t ballot harvest in Pennsylvania,” Graham added. “What are the odds that 25,000 people in different locations of the same age group requested at the same time a ballot? Somebody is up to no good in these nursing homes.”

    The hits just keep on coming.

    • Kim November 10, 2020 at 1:07 am #

      Find whoever harvested the votes. Explain that the penalities are up to ten years in prison. Ask who else was involved.

      • Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 1:41 am #

        Yes, turn them against each other. Let’s play Let’s Make a Deal! Use the Rico Act.

        • benr November 10, 2020 at 8:51 am #

          At this point RICO needs to be dusted off and used against the entire DNC starting at the head of the snake The Clintons and Obamas.
          If the current political parties are not mafia style organizations than what is?
          Start with repulsive Dems and move on over to the odious spineless Republicans.

      • City_of_76 November 11, 2020 at 12:46 am #

        Good idea, Kim! Hopefully the Authorities are Reading Your Comments and will Parsicute to the Fullets Extant of the Law!

        Pick up a gift basket on your way out, and thanks for buying those 3 Large Trump Flags at our Summer Sale!

  81. Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 1:38 am #

    Wiki

    The Hanged Man (XII) is the twelfth trump or Major Arcana card in most traditional Tarot decks. It is used in game playing as well as in divination.

    It depicts a pittura infamante (pronounced [pit?tu?ra i?fa?mante]), an image of a man being hanged upside-down by one ankle (the only exception being the Tarocco Siciliano, which depicts the man hanged by the neck instead). This method of hanging was a common punishment at the time for traitors in Italy. However, the solemn expression on his face traditionally suggests that he is there by his own accord, and the card is meant to represent self-sacrifice more so than it does corporal punishment or criminality.[citation needed]

    In other interpretations, The Hanged Man is a depiction of the Norse god Odin, who suspended himself from a tree in order to gain knowledge. There is also a Christian interpretation that portrays Judas Iscariot, and include the bags of silver in his hands. In the Lo Scarabeo African American Tarot deck the 12th card of the major arcana is the Observer, depicting the Nigerian god “Ifa” of fate and destiny blindfolded and surrounded by eyes.

    Description
    A 1393 decree for Milan and Lombardy of the punishment for traitors: “Let him be drug [dragged] on a [wooden] plank at a horse’s tail to the place of execution, and there be suspended by one foot to the gallows, and be left there until he is dead. As long as he lives let him be given food and drink.”[1]

    The Cross of St. Peter is shown in this French stained glass window. Saint Peter is conventionally shown as having been crucified upside-down.
    Modern versions of the tarot deck depict a man hanging upside-down by one foot. The figure is most often suspended from a wooden beam (as in a cross or gallows) or a tree. Ambiguity results from the fact that the card itself may be viewed inverted.

    In his book The Pictorial Key to the Tarot, A. E. Waite, the designer of the Rider-Waite tarot deck, wrote of the symbol:

    The gallows from which he is suspended forms a Tau cross, while the figure—from the position of the legs—forms a fylfot cross. There is a nimbus about the head of the seeming martyr. It should be noted (1) that the tree of sacrifice is living wood, with leaves thereon; (2) that the face expresses deep entrancement, not suffering; (3) that the figure, as a whole, suggests life in suspension, but life and not death. […] It has been called falsely a card of martyrdom, a card of prudence, a card of the Great Work, a card of duty […] I will say very simply on my own part that it expresses the relation, in one of its aspects, between the Divine and the Universe.[2]

    Yoho: As the Caiaphas said, Is it not just that a Man might die that the people may live? Thus have they declared against Trump in similar fashion though not to the point of death, at least not yet. They are often sincere, justifying their crime for the greater good. Yet even if He should fail or even die, Trump shall Live and through his sacrifice, the Republic shall be reborn.

  82. Jeremy November 10, 2020 at 2:08 am #

    Brilliant interview with Mark Crispin Miller who lays out the whole sordid history and rampant prevalence of US voter fraud.

    Anybody who believes that voter fraud doesn’t happen is simply clueless.
    You’ll never trust an election result again.

    Enjoy.

    Start at 53min 35sec

    https://tinyurl.com/yxewdtn9

    • Kim November 10, 2020 at 5:58 am #

      Guy takes Scaramucci gossip about Trump as gospel. Claims Trump stole 2016 from Hillary.

      Uh, no thanks.

    • City_of_76 November 11, 2020 at 12:52 am #

      There’s a wide gap between extant voter fraud, and the massive widescale fraud that “stole” the election as Trump, speaking out of his ass, claims. No on claims there is zero fraud; but what fraud there is is insignificant and doesn’t compromise the vote.

      In every single state, 2020’s election officials reported no significant problems. There is no there there, and Trumpaholics only further damage the United States by sticking by Trump’s side.

      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/us/politics/voting-fraud.html

  83. SoftStarLight November 10, 2020 at 3:47 am #

    If their victory was as sweet and succulent as they affect it is then why are they showing up so much now with seemingly nothing but cope? There is no evidence (won’t look, scared to look, lied to, or liar), there is no evidence that it’s widespread (won’t look, scared to look, lied to, or liar), doesn’t matter it won’t possibly change the outcome (won’t look, scared to look, lied to, or liar), Joe Biden is the totally legit President Elect right now (won’t look, scared to look, lied to, or liar).

    But the winds are beginning to blow in a new direction. The storm is nigh. And so we forget the word concede. Why would we concede at such a precipice as this? Was there any concede in 1776? And now, as it was then, the UK is a bastion of totalitarianism. So no wonder they celebrate and welcome the color revolution and the interloper who desires the erasure of 1776 and the imposition of 1619. As do many of our ..friends..over there in Europe and Israel. Friends who had no problem ripping us off year after year when rightfully they should have had to fend for themselves. Many of them are locking down and descending into tyranny. Yet, there are countries who appear to respect the legal and constutional resolution of elections. They might surprise you. Mexico, Brazil, Russia, Turkey..and..China too.

    This whole exercise has exposed so much and reshuffled so many things already. And things are just beginning to warm up so settle in. Apparently it’s good thing when bees sting.

  84. KappaJoe November 10, 2020 at 4:09 am #

    Oh, and there’s no such thing as a software ‘glitch’. I worked as a programmer/analyst for 25 years. Any critical software (like a voting system) is thoroughly specified & rigorously tested and does exactly what it is programmed & instructed to do. The fact that all the ‘errors’ are falling in the same direction is further proof the software is behaving exactly as instructed.

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    • Night Owl November 10, 2020 at 4:14 am #

      Ding, ding, ding!

    • Kim November 10, 2020 at 5:44 am #

      Forensically speaking, it should be possible to see all of the programming instructions in the machine code, whether that instruction was there from the start or downloaded and installed later via an app, right?

      Because I have read that some of these counting machines were web-enabled.

      Is this true? Machines should be seized.

    • benr November 10, 2020 at 8:46 am #

      But there are memory leaks galore and that can cause crazy issues but as you said vote flipping only one way hell no.

  85. Night Owl November 10, 2020 at 4:39 am #

    Neocon ghoul Bloody Bill Kristol is very nervous.

    https://twitter.com/BillKristol/status/1325991278484578304

    • Kim November 10, 2020 at 5:49 am #

      They are insisting they be allowed to begin the transition immediately and excoriating the evil “trump appointees” who won’t let them usurp the electoral college and flout the law.

      The technique of group pressure and public scolding is so weak and old and tedious. It really is just mean girls stalinism 101.

      • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 8:42 am #

        I fail to see why they are so afraid of a proper audit. If Trump is a fool and wrong then surely an audit will find nothing and their win will be secure.

        This isn’t a demand to count new, suspect ballots or the like, it’s a request that the election laws of these states be enforced and a correct result in accordance with those laws be delivered.

    • 5.56 November 10, 2020 at 11:45 am #

      I just had a look at Kristol’s tweet (above) and the tweeters are flipping out! They are SO scared! (as they should be)….and, they are blowing up how FB has become “right-winged” and deleting their accounts. Ha! The puppet masters are having a blast with the division in this country! How else to delegitimize both sides and cause the civil war they want. They (the PM’s) are succeeding in destroying the U.S.A. with propaganda in order to institue their end game…the World Economic Forum’s Great Reset! Pure Evil!

  86. dowd November 10, 2020 at 5:29 am #

    The forces of good vs. the forces of evil. My bet is on the forces of good.

  87. Kim November 10, 2020 at 6:31 am #

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/lawsuit-detroit-election-worker-was-told-to-backdate-mail-in-ballots-by-city-officials/

    This is a good account of affadavits and depositions that have been with regard to polling station frauds in Detroit.

    It was massive and quite open. But there are of course lawsuits:

    The lawsuit is asking all evidence including computers and documents to be immediately preserved and for the certification of votes to pause.

    I am very interested in the computers. If programming fraud is found, it will take an Emmet Sullivan standard of judge to suppress it.

  88. BackRowHeckler November 10, 2020 at 7:35 am #

    News of an effective Covid vaccine released by Pfizer (a Ct company) 1 week after the election.

    Now go ahead and tell me the fix wasn’t in.

    Brh

    • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 8:40 am #

      The fix is in and it comes from the entire uniparty.

      We were right to distrust most of the GOP and most of the Dems. Reptiles rule this land and they’re willing to do what they must to keep the wrong sort of people out of power.

      Should this succeed, why do we even need to continue the sham? Just rule directly, oligarchs.

      • SoftStarLight November 10, 2020 at 9:18 am #

        That is why they should not receive our consent to be governed by them. Once that consent is given the globalist oligarchs have won. The loud pressure to consent to them being blared out of the intelligence run lamestream media outlets and social media is nothing more than a psyop utilized in a classic color revolution. The whole point is to divorce society from the normal rule of law and due process and to normalize that disruption for the purposes of takeover. They make themselves feel inevitable but ultimately its up to the people. They are very very powerful people but in sheer numbers they are very very few.

        • 5.56 November 10, 2020 at 11:48 am #

          AMEN! You nailed in! Starlight!

        • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 11:57 am #

          I don’t recall them ever demanding finality of results this way in prior years.

          Seems to me that Trump, for all his bluster and lack of gravitas, actually throws sand in the gears of the transnational oligarchy’s plans.

          Thus he needs fight on.

  89. BackRowHeckler November 10, 2020 at 8:01 am #

    Mozambique 11/9/2020

    ‘ISIS fighters behead 50 men and boys on soccer field, chop up bodies, kidnap local women.’

    ISIS has ‘overrun luxury islands off the Mozambique coast’ where European expats maintain residences. I wonder what these ISIS guerillas will do with captured Europeans? Maybe ransom them off.

    So perhaps the mayhem in Nice and Vienna is part of a coordinated international campaign against civilization in general. Some have suggested the anti world thugs in Portland and Seattle are part of the campaign,

    I just love news from Africa. It puts everything in perspective.

    Brh

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    • stelmosfire November 10, 2020 at 9:00 am #

      C’mon Man. It’s a religion of peace! Maybe they’ll have to reopen the Collinsville Machete line. CT. can use some good paying jobs.

      • BackRowHeckler November 10, 2020 at 9:25 am #

        The machetes used in Africa come from China. Not top quality steel like the USA produced in days past, but if Rwanda and Mozambique are any indication, good enough.

        • malthuss November 10, 2020 at 10:23 am #

          China is taking over. AfricaNs are in the way.

  90. Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 9:02 am #

    We wake to the news that moving aside with grace and dignity is not in the playbook of the current president. So it must play out the hard way, with His Majesty shaming himself more all the time.

    Equally shameful are his enablers, who seem never to quite grasp the poverty of their hero-worship.

    Trump is a walking Oakland – there is no there there.

    • BackRowHeckler November 10, 2020 at 9:26 am #

      Holy Sh#t, you’re quoting Gertrude Stein?

      • bluekayak November 10, 2020 at 1:13 pm #

        No, I think Honey is quoting Dorothy Parker in a lame attempt to appear pithy and oh so much more clever than we deplorable rubes who are too stupid to just roll over and be ruled happily by the denizens of a dozen zip codes in NYC and San Francisco

    • benr November 10, 2020 at 10:17 am #

      And so with that mouthful of bile spewed forth you ignite what exactly?
      Does election fraud not matter as long as the side you want to win, wins?

      What does that say about you as a human?
      From my perspective it says a lot and none of it is good.

      I would equally be upset if it was the Republican side that set the vote flipping in favor of my desired outcome, four more year of fucking over the progressive desire of destroying my country.

      I can hear you saying…why?

      Because it matters to the stability of my country and the manner in which we move forward.

      There is nothing more toxic than the corruption clearly on display with Biden and this election.

      We have already seen the DNC stack the deck against people they deemed as not worthy during the last two primaries and that pissed me off. As far as I am concerned the DNC is a clear and present danger to the long term stability of these United States and they need to be investigated and prosecuted for fraud and most likely a laundry list of crimes.

      As someone already said Rico can be used to tie a criminal gangs and prosecute them.

      We have achieved Banana Republic status and it is alarming.

      • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 12:05 pm #

        Every thing you say echoes from somewhere else.

        No there there

        • benr November 10, 2020 at 12:18 pm #

          There is no there there between your ears.
          That echo is the empty nothingness of your intent.

        • Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 12:57 pm #

          And that disproves it somehow? As if everything you say doesn’t echo from somewhere else?

          This is simply the inverse of argumentum ad populum. To be true something has to be eldritch and unknown.

  91. Pucker November 10, 2020 at 9:06 am #

    We may be entering a Hardcore Dystopia?

    Things are getting very bizarre. Did you see the Georgia election official giving a speech the other day in which he blithely declared: “We will find fraud in the recent Georgia election.” Then he add something akin to: “But this shouldn’t affect the election result.”

    You’re at the IHOP, and you point out to the waitress the booger on the top of your pancakes and the waitress just pores you a cup of coffee and asks if you’d like anything else?

    And then you reply: “Could you tell the cook to hold the booger?”

    “I’d like one Presidential election, but hold the booger. Please.”

    We could be entering full-on 1984 Dystopia in which the people are bat-shit crazy? Watch the documentary called “The Social Dilemma”. It basically says that the social media is literally driving the society insane. Mad-as-Fuck.

    The Media is all fucked up and bat-shit-crazy.

    At the press conference yesterday, the reporter asked the lawyer re: the Michigan election: “Where is the evidence of fraud in Michigan?”

    And then the lawyer replies: “At this moment we have over 130 sworn affidavits of people in Michigan swearing under oath re: irregularities during the vote count in Michigan.”

    And then the next reporter asks: “Yeah, but where’s the evidence?”

    And then the befuddled lawyer responds. “I just told you that at this moment we have over 130 sworn affidavits of people in Michigan swearing under oath re: irregularities during the vote in Michigan.”

    Then she adds: “It’s the reporters job to go out to investigate stories.”

    • SoftStarLight November 10, 2020 at 9:26 am #

      “The Media is all fucked up and bat-shit-crazy.”

      Possibly

      or

      The Media is entirely complicit and with full intent MAKES up “reality” but doesn’t objectively report reality. Assorted intelligence assets and actors?

      • Pucker November 10, 2020 at 9:29 am #

        Somehow, the “Reporters” never learned in Journalism school that a reporter’s job is to go out and investigate leads on stories of social import. I wonder what the kids now learn in school, particularly Journalism School?

        • SoftStarLight November 10, 2020 at 2:32 pm #

          Critical Race Theory / 1619 / Anti-Fasc / America and Caucasians have been and are the source of all evil within the known universe

      • volodya November 10, 2020 at 9:59 am #

        I agree, entirely complicit. ABC, NBC, CBS, BBC, FOX, in general, the msm, are propagandists at best, controlled by corporate interests, and a waste of time if you want news. So, you want news? Don’t go there.

        • Pucker November 10, 2020 at 10:12 am #

          The students probably now enroll in Columbia Journalism School, and they graduate with a “Prestigious” degree from a “Brand Name” university with a huge student debt, but they never learned in school that a reporter’s job is to investigate stories of social import, but they instead learned that a reporter’s job is to be an actor and to just repeat whatever they’re told to say so that they don’t upset the powerful important people? Bat Shit Crazy….

          • 5.56 November 10, 2020 at 11:52 am #

            ….then recruited by the CIA and trained in psyops.

      • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 11:59 am #

        The Enemies of the People are enemies of the people.

        They hate us, plan accordingly.

      • Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 12:43 pm #

        They started out with manufacture of consent. Now we have manufacture of context. It’s the Truman Show.

        • SoftStarLight November 10, 2020 at 2:30 pm #

          Absolutely. And they are willing to change and undermine facts on a minute by minute basis. If we let them get further down the road like this they will deep fake their enemies for prosecution and incarceration purposes. How can one prove they didn’t say something if a manufactured video seems to show them saying that very thing?

        • Kim November 10, 2020 at 8:45 pm #

          @ Yoho

          Good line.

  92. freetrapper November 10, 2020 at 9:51 am #

    “…look at the big fat sad golfing loser-clown we of the anointed Woke class just beat like a drum on our noble march back to power!”

    You don’t have to be of the “woke” class to know Trump is loser of a human being, nevermind his net worth. You just need to have observed him through the lens of an objective mind over the decades. He is, like the America that elected him, a failed experiment.

    Joe Biden is the answer to nothing of import, but then, there is no answer for us, now. That’s why it’s “The Long Emergency.” Or have you and your readers forgotten this as the desperate realities mount and the pressures to pick-a-savior-any-savior manifest?

    I struggle to comprehend how anyone of any political orientation with a human-scaled brain could think The Sunkist Rosebud is the answer to anything in the human sphere beyond the goal of multiplying our rate of decay.

    My advice to you James is to get back to discussing the things you are eminently equipped to discuss. Your recent posts are little short of idiotic, and shocking as such. And I ain’t no wokester. I’ve been lurking on here for well over a decade, with satisfaction.

    Time for a reset, bud, a leveling of the foundation. The cheese is sliding off your cracker.

    • benr November 10, 2020 at 10:08 am #

      In this system one must pick to do nothing gets the worst option.
      As far as the rest of your attack upon Jim that is your opinion and only you and a few select others value it as such.

      Jim’s blog and Jim’s board it seems a bit arrogant to tell the man your opinion matters more than what he chooses to write about.

      • freetrapper November 10, 2020 at 10:31 am #

        Only a few select others on here, for sure it seems. It’s disappointing to see those inhabiting these halls being such bootlickers. The last thing an intelligent pundit needs to be surrounded by is a cadre of bootlickers lending endless affirmation. What they need is objective feedback, people who have followed their work for a long time yet are not shy to point out when they feel he is full of it. In the spirit of a true friend is someone who tells you what you need to hear, not always what you want to hear. A true friend aids in your evolution. A bootlicker your devolution. No?

        I don’t think my opinion matters more than JHK’s. I do think it matters as much, as does the rest of ours, and this is precisely the place for opinions to be voiced. In the meantime, is this a forum or a fanpage? I’m beginning to think it is more the latter. Too bad.

        • Night Owl November 10, 2020 at 10:39 am #

          Time to move on then, I guess.

          But then David would stop paying your salary.

        • benr November 10, 2020 at 10:40 am #

          You stated your post in a manner that is nothing but an attack.
          Read what you wrote and then read it again and if it still fails to register what a dick you were try it again.

          • freetrapper November 10, 2020 at 12:44 pm #

            benr – what is “a troll” to you? Someone with a difference of opinion to what prevails in the room?

            I’m sure Trump would agree with that. In the same light as any contest he doesn’t win is fraudulent and any news that doesn’t favor him is fake.

            Yes, it’s an attack. It’s an attack on the proliferation of dangerous nonsense. It’s not an attack on JHK in general. He has taught me much and my shelves contain quite a number of his books, which i consider excellent by the way.

            Sometimes you need a slap in the face as a reality-check. I expect we can all agree on that. (Well, maybe not the wokesters amongst us. Too violent.)

          • benr November 10, 2020 at 3:25 pm #

            Its how you frame it again if you don’t get that its 100% on you all you had to do was drop bullshit insulting lines like cheese sliding off the cracker.
            As if you are the authority on what is sound writing and sanity.

            How positively arrogant of you.

        • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 11:49 am #

          Jim no longer cares much about open discussion – he seems to revel in this collection of misfits that buzz around this board. It used to be a place to come for serious discussion and insightful commentary by JHK. Sadly, that seems to be over with.

          • benr November 10, 2020 at 12:15 pm #

            As if you ever engaged in anything but being a troll.

            Quit pretending lotus eater.

    • hmuller November 10, 2020 at 12:32 pm #

      fleazapper,

      If you were truly WOKE, you would not call anyone (even Trump) “fat”, He’s differently body sculpted. Just like your heroine Camelbutt Harris.

      And the last time Governor Pritzker heard that word, we couldn’t get him to quit crying and unlock the bathroom door. On the bright side, they can’t hang you if you have no neck.

    • Sagesse November 10, 2020 at 2:22 pm #

      Fantastic response freetrapper.

      “The cheese is sliding off the cracker.”.

      Priceless….

      • SoftStarLight November 10, 2020 at 2:26 pm #

        Interesting how all of these new posters crop up suddenly and are of course all of one mind. Sort of like all of those batches of fake Biden ballots. Nothing to see here lol.

        • Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 3:16 pm #

          Hive Drones. They manufacture them in colleges by the bushel.

        • hmuller November 10, 2020 at 4:17 pm #

          SSL,
          Haven’t you ever wondered what happened to all those minds fried by the MK Ultra Program? The deep state has them in deep underground bases pecking away on keyboards as internet trolls. Pity them. LOL Well, that’s one theory.

          But yes, it is suspicious how all these “new people” crawled out of the woodwork after election day. It’s like the Biden legions are flooding websites trying to win the propaganda wars and convince everyone the DEMs really won. Now that theory I mean seriously.

          • benr November 10, 2020 at 4:24 pm #

            Or its the same couple of fools making new accounts and having conversations with themselves.

    • Rulo Deschamps November 11, 2020 at 5:16 pm #

      Freetrapper, some thoughts about the points you raise in your 3 posts. I have also lurked here for well over a decade and have the host’s books on my shelves too. I find his political commentary as astute, well-researched and full of insights as his material about peak oil and energy, geopolitics, social observations of the US in the 21st century with excellent vignettes of the mall full of grown men dressed and acting as babies, consumerism, the environment, the press, the many rackets punishing us including the worst (health”care”), etc. That doesn’t make me a bootlicker. I happen to dig the man’s work, and work it is. One has to navigate and understand a big corpus of information and disinformation, follow thin threads through the noise, use reason, and be able to concentrate all that in a few potent paragraphs so that we can digest it. Every time you read him, you’re reading 1000 pages concentrated in one. I don’t read the 1000, I read this one. And the writing is excellent, full of dark humor and smarts. He’s been criticized. All criticism expressed in a respectful fashion, as far I have seen here, is accepted. An example: the new year predictions. Every year, the dude gets a lot of flak. Hell, more than once I thought, “sir, is it really necessary to put dates on what may happen? You know what Y Berra said about making predictions. Why put dates on stuff & give the yahoos a chance to throw rotten fruit at you?” I think all that, others say it. He keeps doing it. Why? Because it’s his right, his blog, his audience, he worked hard for it, and if you don’t like it, go elsewhere. I don’t think you’re one of those deranged fellows that appear every week. You make some sensible points. Yes, DJT is, or was, a sad excuse of a human being. Many of us here, incl I think our host, would admit it, no problem. I do. And I voted for him. And you’re right, Biden is no answer, and there may be no answer, and it may be too late, and TLE could be upon us. Etc. Maybe you voted one way, and I voted another way, and we can still agree on a lot and have a few beers, and admit both of us are disappointed and afraid and mad and worried and hopeless. There’s enough out there to justify stress and deep worry. I say let’s respect the effort of JHK first, and let’s try to respect commenters too. When they deserve it.

  93. malthuss November 10, 2020 at 10:27 am #

    A 4th grade school teacher, a White woman, in Burlington, WI implemented a BLM curriculum in her classroom.

    Tonight at a school meeting, many parents voiced their displeasure, only to be met with violent opposition from BLM and their sympathizers.

    Police were also assaulted by BLM at the meeting… Welcome to the new America folks, this is coming to a town near you… if it already hasn’t arrived.

    • benr November 10, 2020 at 10:37 am #

      Yea people will revolt if this nonsense keeps up.

      • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 12:02 pm #

        I feel that is inevitable. It ties in with the long emergency anyhow. Resources are finite and the plenty that papered over our growing divisions draws down.

        The Old America I side with and the New America of the ‘coalition of the ascendant’, the Woke and the like have naught in common.

        Our animosities grow to hatreds. We cannot share a roof any longer.

        We either peaceably divorce or it gets nasty, but the differences are now too stark and the wealth too thin to make any ‘unity’ work.

        • hmuller November 10, 2020 at 12:36 pm #

          Sad but true.

        • Rulo Deschamps November 11, 2020 at 5:30 pm #

          Hear, hear

      • elysianfield November 10, 2020 at 6:52 pm #

        “people will revolt”

        Benr,
        I have been told, more than once, that I was “revolting”…whoda thought I was ahead of the curve?

  94. benr November 10, 2020 at 10:35 am #

    Pressure is mounting.
    The wheels are falling off the fraudsters attempt to steal an election.

    Pennsylvania just got put back into contention by real clear politics.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/2020_elections_electoral_college_map.html

    The why at part of it.

    https://www.oann.com/10-attorneys-general-back-president-trumps-challenge-of-pa-election-results/

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    • Night Owl November 10, 2020 at 10:40 am #

      Heh, heh.

    • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 11:51 am #

      Pennsylvania is done. George will go blue – as will Arizona.

      Why not accept what has happened with dignity and grace – who knows, it might feel better than this shrill whining.

      • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 12:04 pm #

        Why accept what appears to be rampant fraud?

        Regardless the final outcome, half the country won’t believe the results. The escalation will continue apace.

        • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 12:10 pm #

          So you think – however half the country will soon forget the DJT disaster. It will fizzle out like all ill-advised political fantasies.

          Nobody cares. Get on board.

          • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 1:23 pm #

            And half the country denies you and thinks the status quo ante worse than the orange man.

            There is nothing to hold us together, no commonality. Why would I seek unity with you and yours?

      • benr November 10, 2020 at 12:13 pm #

        The shit faced troll returns undeterred from being banned for what the thirtieth time?

        https://www.oann.com/according-to-govt-data-69-people-born-in-1800s-voted-in-pa-this-year/

        You post nothing of merit and lose every discussion but that is the point to be a douche.

        • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 12:15 pm #

          Said with your customary elegance and wit. Those who love you must be very proud.

          • benr November 10, 2020 at 3:29 pm #

            Indeed and back at you.

          • Night Owl November 11, 2020 at 1:41 pm #

            Brevity is the soul of wit.

      • elysianfield November 10, 2020 at 6:50 pm #

        ” dignity and grace ”

        Honey,
        Dignity and Grace? Who the fuck are they?

        …Send them out so that we might know them….

  95. Night Owl November 10, 2020 at 10:44 am #

    Kim, should you be browsing:

    A follow up on a previous comment about Parler having a certain stench about it. You were the only other one here to have commented that you, too, felt this way.

    Something else to add to the equation: this individual was heavily involved in uncovering details on the RussiaGate fraud, and says Parler won’t verify her because Twatter continues to deny her the blue check seal of approval.

    https://twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/1326173613851086848

    Some of us have a nose for this stuff and some of us don’t.

    • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 12:05 pm #

      From what I’ve seen Parler also engages in link censorship the way the big socials do.

      Seems a mirage or a trap, not an alternative to Twitter and the like.

      • Night Owl November 10, 2020 at 1:54 pm #

        Yes, I tend to agree.

    • Rulo Deschamps November 11, 2020 at 5:41 pm #

      I read those comments about Parler too. I don’t know anything about social media. I’m coming to the conclusion that it is toxic and the damage may be greater than any benefits. I signed up to FB years ago mainly to keep in touch w some people I know overseas, and run my farm page from it. It’s gotten worse and worse. I take a look at it every 2-5 weeks and find nothing there, except in something called “groups”, for example about beekeeping and such, stuff I dig. You and the other poster may have some info, like, is there a less toxic platform? Less intrusive? Less crappy? Uncensored? I don’t suppose so, but maybe sometime you could post about it, thanks.
      PS In the past, sometimes I would post links or copy-paste of this blog. I tried that last time I was there, and the thing got immediately memory-holed. Censored. I got a message saying something like “against community standards” and that’s it. Also, that time I noticed a LOT of pro biden ads, and biden friendly media links.

  96. malthuss November 10, 2020 at 10:51 am #

    The aging society,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkB5ugK0YDY

    who will but=y the stocks and bonds soon?

  97. ShakaOM November 10, 2020 at 10:55 am #

    I’ve been reading this blog for a few years.I used to thoroughly enjoy it when JHK wrote about the coming emergency. Now you write about the sideshow of American politics. Two parties with barely any difference between them as though they aren’t both minions of the ruling class. What happened to you?

  98. Pucker November 10, 2020 at 10:57 am #

    Several weeks ago, researcher Whitney Webb was talking about a US Government Deep State Project re: some pandemic exercise that they were war gaming called “Dark Winter” in relation to “Operation Warp Speed” that would continue under Trump or Biden.

    It’s very dystopian.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5gDhj7yXbLU

  99. Pucker November 10, 2020 at 11:00 am #

    This weird, corrupt, senile Old Fart with dementia gets elected under vary dodgy, dubious circumstances and then he immediately starts talking about a hard Lock Down and a “Dark Winter”.

    Fuck Me!

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    • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 12:19 pm #

      He is speaking about real leadership, you are just not used to hearing it.

      • benr November 10, 2020 at 12:36 pm #

        More mental masturbation devoid of reason or truth.

        Obama even stated want something screwed up give it to Joe.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmoln-XK3Gw&list=PLLri3HDD8DQvmOW7yKW4iUMWQOjlXF7hV

        • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 1:16 pm #

          Soon you will be writing tax checks to Joe and Kamala. It will go to all those welfare cheats and people looking for various handouts.

          It will not go toward some idiot Wall.

          • benr November 10, 2020 at 4:23 pm #

            Speaking of idiots who writes tax checks?

            Hint the clue bus needs to run you over and then back up on you.

  100. benr November 10, 2020 at 11:02 am #

    Yes Dark winter is alleged to be a wargame of some type.

    • Pucker November 10, 2020 at 11:16 am #

      Dark Winter

      I’m not going to be the first asshole to take the vaccine.

      https://www.centerforhealthsecurity.org/our-work/events-archive/2001_dark-winter/about.html

      • Pucker November 10, 2020 at 11:39 am #

        Why is it always “Oklahoma City”? What crisis in “Southwest Asia” were they war gaming?

        Dark Winter

        About the Exercise

        On June 22-23, 2001, the Center for Strategic and International Studies, the Johns Hopkins Center for Civilian Biodefense Studies, the ANSER Institute for Homeland Security, and the Oklahoma City National Memorial Institute for the Prevention Terrorism, hosted a senior-level war game examining the national security, intergovernmental, and information challenges of a biological attack on the American homeland. (See also: Dark Winter Script • Article: Shining Light on Dark Winter)

        With tensions rising in the Taiwan Straits, and a major crisis developing in Southwest Asia, a smallpox outbreak was confirmed by the CDC in Oklahoma City. During the thirteen days of the game, the disease spread to 25 states and 15 other countries.

      • benr November 10, 2020 at 11:39 am #

        Nope not after the boat load of poison they shot me up with while in the Navy including Anthrax multiple times.
        The injection sites still hurt at times and develop a painful red bump after twenty years.

        • bluekayak November 10, 2020 at 1:51 pm #

          LOL – I was only in the reserves and I got inoculated for yellow fever THREE FRIGGIN TIMES in 6 months… HM2 Schmuckatelli didn’t seem to care what my shot card showed…

          • benr November 10, 2020 at 3:30 pm #

            Thanks for your service!

        • Slingshot November 10, 2020 at 4:31 pm #

          @benr

          You rock everything you say is 100% true.

          Yea there appears to be no safety net to keep people from creating accounts using different e-mail accounts and having a troll conversation.

    • Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 2:30 pm #

      Event 201 signified a real coming event. Are you so sure this one will not? Smallpox to be exact.

  101. esquimaux November 10, 2020 at 11:02 am #

    Jim, God bless you but I don’t know where your optimism comes from. Fraud and crime could be proved a thousand times over and the country’s effective response would be, “Okay, so…”

    What have Trump or his supporters got to fight with? You know that “when treason prospers…”

    The Long Emergency is unfolding as you’ve been predicting. Like the South, when fantasies of a future Confederate victory came to naught, it’s time to begin finding ways to endure the coming impoverishment. Granted that nobody likes a naysayer but false hope does us no good. A few Mason jars and a block of parafin are more useful now than pointless dreams of someday retaking the state and giving the devils their due.

  102. wwg1wga November 10, 2020 at 11:02 am #

    *****************************************************
    Want a mandate to govern, Joe??

    https://www.got-truth.com/docs/Want%20a%20mandate%20to%20govern%20Joe.pdf

    • 5.56 November 10, 2020 at 12:06 pm #

      Protect yourself. Food, shelter and water. Money in the bank? Get it out! When the economy comes crashing down (and it will!), it’s gone! FDIC is a lie/joke. So are your pensions. And anything locked in a banks safety deposit box. Use your money for all of the above and, of course, lead.

      • 5.56 November 10, 2020 at 12:14 pm #

        …..antibiotics; medical kit. Hardcore alcohol. Get off all media and till your soil. Hollywood has been laying it out in the form of science fiction/fantasy for a couple of decades…just sayin!

      • beantownbill. November 10, 2020 at 1:08 pm #

        Right on! You know where it’s at. Sorry about the ‘60’s language.

        • 5.56 November 10, 2020 at 4:36 pm #

          S’okay. Born in 57. Grew up in CT. Now in WV

  103. John1945 November 10, 2020 at 12:50 pm #

    Dem damn dyed-in-the-wool YT Sheriffs…
    Trying to stop Juggernaut of Dem Justice,Truth and Reconciliation…

    Maybe he does not want to pay Reparation Tax which will help to re-build Portland,Seattle and Chicago and improve the lot of our Poor & Disadvantaged ???

    Lang Holland, the police chief of Marshall, Ark., shared the posts on Parler, a Twitter-like app popular among and targeted toward conservatives. Among the posts was a meme likening the 2020 election to the Revolutionary War.

    “Death to all Marxist Democrats,” Holland wrote on Friday, under his own name and likeness. “Take no prisoners leave no survivors!!”

    “When this is over and Trump is president for 4 more years. Do not go to sleep. Do not forget what these Marxist Democrat bastards have tried to do,” Holland wrote in another post.

    “When you see one in public get in their face do not give them any peace. Throw water on them at restaurants. Push them off sidewalks. Never let them forget they are traitors and have no right to live in this Republic after what they have done.”

    And my beloved, much-maligned WaPo is mightily not amused:

    “Arkansas police chief resigns after demanding ‘death’ for Democrats: ‘Leave no survivors’”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/09/arkansas-chief-resigns-parler-democrats/?outputType=amp

    I am taking knee right now praying for Lang Holland’ lost Soul.
    Then I am taking another knee before Martin Looter King picture praying for Justice.

    • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 12:54 pm #

      Lang Holland of Marshall, Ark.

      You are reduced to quoting a nitwit like that?

      The bottom of the barrel is nigh. The skies open. And it is blue once again.

  104. Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 12:54 pm #

    Deep State roll out their secret weapon: William Barr.

    https://nationalpost.com/news/world/barr-tells-prosecutors-to-probe-allegations-of-election-irregularities

    Trump should just ignore this completely. No communication or sharing of information. Barr is simply not to be trusted.

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    • its me again November 10, 2020 at 1:56 pm #

      So you’d rather have someone like John Mitchell, a real crook. Got it.

    • HapMan November 10, 2020 at 2:47 pm #

      You don’t think Barr wants to stay in his job?

      • Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 3:12 pm #

        He’s corrupt, tasked with doing nothing. He’s good at that. Epstein case, Hillary, Obama, Antifa – all nothing done.

        • HapMan November 10, 2020 at 4:52 pm #

          Not defending Barr, but Epstein was in custody on federal charges that would have put him in prison for life and then some when he died.

          The simplest explanation for the absence of charges against Obama and Clinton was the absence of crimes. I get that you hate them, but you should try to entertain the not-inconsistent thought that they didn’t commit violations of law that you imagine they committed.

          As for Antifa, even accepting your Deep State corruption conspiracy theories, why on earth would Barr not bring charges against Antifa people, if there were federal crimes? I’m sure you have some Byzantine and circular explanation, but I’m truly curious.

          • Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 6:04 pm #

            Because they are Deep State militia and he’s part of the Deep State. Mein Gott, men cannot think anymore.

          • HapMan November 10, 2020 at 6:42 pm #

            Hadn’t heard Antifa was Deep State militia. That’s a new one for me.

            So Trump filled his cabinet with Deep Staters – allies of Antifa no less!

            So, what is it you like so much about Trump again?

          • benr November 10, 2020 at 6:53 pm #

            Well you don’t like him so that is a huge plus.

            Trump is hilarious and he is not Hillary nor is he Barack or the demented Joe Biden.

            Best part is he drives Democrats crazy.
            Whats not to like about the man?

          • HapMan November 10, 2020 at 7:35 pm #

            You’re hilarious too benr.

            And you have nicely summed up the ethic of the contemporary Republican Party voter.

  105. beantownbill. November 10, 2020 at 1:16 pm #

    @ anyone:

    Constitutional law is not my strongpoint. Can anyone tell me what happens to the presidency if Pelosi becomes acting president after January 20th? What does “acting” mean? Is Pelosi the acting president until 2025 when the soon-to-be next term expires? If not, what actions will occur to resolve this mess?

  106. Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 1:20 pm #

    The two most potent post-war orthodoxies – socialist politics and modernist art – have at least one feature in common: they are both forms of snobbery, the anti-bourgeois snobbery of people convinced of their right to dictate to the common man in the name of the common man.

    Roger Scruton

    Yoho: Modern art ignores beauty except to eschew it. Modern journalism eschew truth except to deny it.

    https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/civilisation/2020/11/civilisation-a-postscript-part-1/

    • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 2:07 pm #

      I see a ‘Dogs playing Pool’ poster in your paneled basement/man cave.

      Fridge full of Pabst Blue Ribbon, giant truck in the driveway. Yee Ha!

      • Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 3:01 pm #

        What’s your beer? Corona? Good choice. Corona beach is where White Australians stood up for sanctity of White womanhood against the Muslim insurgents.

        • Kim November 10, 2020 at 8:37 pm #

          That’s Cronulla beach, Yo.

      • benr November 10, 2020 at 6:56 pm #

        I can honestly say after you denigrated Pabst I went and got a 12 pack.
        It’s not expensive nor is it pretentious far better than Budweiser and without that awful hops bitterness so many Hipsters like.
        Thanks for the recommendation might be the only thing you have ever posted that has been worth reading.

        I don’t drink a lot of beer but this one might be a keeper.

    • SoftStarLight November 10, 2020 at 2:23 pm #

      Fascinating post! Anti-civilizational tendencies permeate art and life at this juncture in time. Can we rebuild civilization? That will require confidence, optimism, and desire for Truth and Beauty.

    • Soul Forensics November 10, 2020 at 2:40 pm #

      Scruton was excellent (R.I.P.), but he didn’t quite see what was hitting him with respect to modernism.

      Modernism, in art, literature, painting, theatre, and movies, and at its best, was a successful attempt to elevate man’s critical and aesthetic powers above that of the previous sentimental and didactic and moribund Victorianism that had played itself out. Initially there was a lot of bogus and pretentiousness (1913) — art for art’s sake, Dadaist anarchy, and the like — but with WWI, artists took themselves seriously, and we were blessed with an incredible amount of seminal works in all genres, through to the end of WWII.

      But all periods decline, and the real problems started in 1962 with postmodernism. Truth was ‘relative’, the author was ‘dead’, the reader was the final receiver of whatever worth or ‘message’ contained within. This, of course, opened the door for cultural and political mischief. Soon enough, the universities welcomed the new religion, and cisatlantic French theorists arrived at Yale to teach the ‘wonders’ of Marxism, ‘power imbalances’, ‘colonial and patriarchal oppression’, and all the other evil doctrines that have now suffused our culture, from the universities, to business hiring depts., to media, kindergarten, Hollywood, all artistic associations, and ultimately to government itself.

      It’s postmodernism that’s the devil. Modernism was, and still is, brilliant, a serious attempt to raise human intelligence and aesthetic pleasure, and without all the revolutionary blather (save for isolated pockets, like French surrealism, which died a few years after it began anyway.)

      • Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 3:10 pm #

        I’m not sure I agree but I don’t know enough to defend. I don’t like most modern art even before 1962. I’d say it was probably an intensification of the trends already in play. As the article says, many of the big names like Picasso where down with the Revolution. I see them worshiping that large black monolith, forget the name.

        I once found a trove of Russian Revolutionary Sculpture. Hideous. But Buck Stud adored it.

        Some of the geometrical stuff is alright. But I recall Picasso taking an interesting from of geometrical art from the Congo and twisting it. The natives were horrified at what he and other cubists did with it.

        • BackRowHeckler November 10, 2020 at 5:34 pm #

          How about the Dada art movement in the 1920s? Not much remembered today, considered cutting edge a century ago.

          • Soul Forensics November 10, 2020 at 5:45 pm #

            That lasted about two years, BRH. It was really just a modern-day version of kid LARPers. They had a few laughs during college, that’s the sum of it.

          • malthuss November 10, 2020 at 7:16 pm #

            Hans Hoffman. Check his stuff. weak.

        • malthuss November 10, 2020 at 7:18 pm #

          Jews. Rothko [he was the best]. Larry ‘Rivers’, George Segal etc.

          And the writers and curators…gees. Very jewish.

        • Kim November 10, 2020 at 8:23 pm #

          Cubis, dadism, futurism…a massive art dealer con job.

      • Kim November 10, 2020 at 8:34 pm #

        @ Soul Forensics

        the previous sentimental and didactic and moribund Victorianism that had played itself out.

        In other words, it was a reaction to – an attempt to overthrow – sentiment and didacticism.

        Alright, but why would any sane person want to overthrow those things? The most sentimental work of art in human history may be La Pieta. And it is not just sentimental but didactic as well. Why would we want to overthrow something that teaches us and examplifies for us all that is best about humanity?

        And in that connection, observe how modernty has consistently attempted to paint sentimentailty as a negative rather than as the beautiful positive that it is.

        What is also interesting to me about sentimentaility is that the media (for that is the primary art-using world) are in fact incapable of sentimentaility. Sentimentaility is above them. They have not evolved to sentimentality, so not understand it and certainly do not sympathize with it. Because like the cold-hearted and cynical modernists they are, they do not feel it.

        Thus, when they try to create the simulacrum of sentimentality they fail and create instead only schmaltz.

        How is it that they cannot produce – or even sympathize with – the beautiful, true and touching sentimentality of a Pieta? It is because they are monsters unconnected to their real human feelngs.

        In fact, they hate real, human, sentimental feelings.

        For these reasons I detest modernism and label it for what it is: the subversive art of the enemies of humanity.

        • Soul Forensics November 10, 2020 at 9:03 pm #

          @ Kim

          I’m referring to sentimentalism in its artistic or connotative sense. I agree wholeheartedly with your views on the value of sentiment — tender feelings, subtle inflections, sensitive reenactments, etc. But sentimentalism has an ancillary meaning, when it hardens, of maudlin effusion, even mawkishness. At its worse, repulsive phoniness. Victorianism, like many movements throughout art history, had a wonderful flowering. But by the end, it, along with so many other movements, hardened into a caricature of itself. The repressiveness of it was so smothering that the great Thomas Hardy, in his best novel Jude the Obscure, was raked over the coals by critics and the wider community. (Citizens back then actually read novels!). His response? He basically said, “fuck it”, stopped writing novels after that, and continued with his poetry (which was of similar excellence).

  107. Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 1:22 pm #

    Mark Steyn: The lawyers hired to fight the Steal – paid for with your contributions – are leaking to the NY Times about their contempt for Trump.

    • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 1:30 pm #

      Yes, a wonderful story.

    • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 1:35 pm #

      Seems a damn shame to me that the professional-managerial class is in lockstep against the man.

      The legal profession seems among the most prickly in these regards. Are there any white shoe types who /aren’t/ post-national types?

    • FreddieMars November 10, 2020 at 5:04 pm #

      Are these the recently solicited contributions 50% of which, as explained in the fine print, will be directed to the Campaign’s debt burden?

      • FreddieMars November 10, 2020 at 9:25 pm #

        Update – it’s even worse…not $1 goes to the Recount Fund, until the individual contributor has donated in excess of $5,000.

  108. John1945 November 10, 2020 at 1:38 pm #

    “For the Immortal Gods are wont to allow those Persons whom
    they wish to punish for their Guilt sometimes a greater Prosperity
    and longer Impunity, in order that they may suffer the more severely
    from a Reverse of Circumstances. ”

    Julius Caesar,Gallic Wars,from his most famous speech before the Elite 10th Legion.

    Throughout the 2020 Democrats were waving their dicks in our faces,daring us to do something about it-starting with George F… Felonious Floyd riots and ending with wholesale ballot theft.

    If The Corpse & The Whore of Babylon will not wear striped pajamas in 2021 or preferably earlier I expect to see Mr.Trump on Jerry Springer show.

    There will be no Trump 2024.It is yet another defeatist canard spread by MSM.

    • SoftStarLight November 10, 2020 at 2:13 pm #

      Amen

    • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 2:23 pm #

      Trump will have much to do courtesy of the SDNY. They will not be deterred.

      Those who eerily admired this sociopathic monster will turn toward other pursuits. They will see the poverty of their allegiance to this dreadful man.

      All will be well. Even for you. You’ll see. The swelling will go down.

      • Slingshot November 10, 2020 at 4:55 pm #

        Not likely he entertains us with your tears and gushing protestations of eternal love.

        • its me again November 10, 2020 at 10:16 pm #

          You’re right. He’s nothing but an entertainer.

  109. Night Owl November 10, 2020 at 1:56 pm #

    #Maidengate

    No rawk, unfortunately; rather, hundreds of thousands of women, who had votes cast for Biden without their consent and using their maiden names.

    Yet another layer of fraud being uncovered.

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    • its me again November 10, 2020 at 1:57 pm #

      Dreaming.

      • Night Owl November 10, 2020 at 2:06 pm #

        It’s all over, cupcake.

      • SoftStarLight November 10, 2020 at 2:11 pm #

        Cope

  110. Night Owl November 10, 2020 at 2:05 pm #

    Pompeo:

    “There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration.”

    https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1326229085278842880

    That’s right.

    • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 2:08 pm #

      Pompeo – another load we will all be free of.

      • SoftStarLight November 10, 2020 at 2:12 pm #

        Cope

      • Night Owl November 10, 2020 at 2:16 pm #

        The only load ’round these parts is in the seat of your pants.

      • HapMan November 10, 2020 at 2:55 pm #

        More noise from this group of clowns.

        Pompeo wants to be part of Trump’s upcoming omnibus pardon-fest, given the investigations he is under.

        Pompeo also wants a nonaggression pact with Trump, if not an outright endorsement, for 2022 and 2024.

        • Night Owl November 10, 2020 at 3:03 pm #

          “Pardon fest”

          List the crimes for us, comrade.

          Don’t forget the concrete evidence.

          It is always a joy to engage the HalfMan, even if he is unable to respond.

          • its me again November 10, 2020 at 10:14 pm #

            Flynn is overjoyed. His pardon is days away.

        • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 3:04 pm #

          It will be more low comedy if trump tries to pardon himself. My guess is that the human dental-drills at the SDNY will not pay much attention to that stunt.

          Good times a ‘comin…

          • Night Owl November 10, 2020 at 4:00 pm #

            “SDNY, SDNY, SDNY”

            Carghoul is back with his 12th handle.

            Good times are here! Pee-Pee tape ranting coming soon!

          • Slingshot November 10, 2020 at 4:35 pm #

            What you found a new glory hole?

  111. Sean Coleman November 10, 2020 at 2:17 pm #

    Tony Heller on electoral fraud using voting computer software: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnzhjfJqSew

    He is very good indeed on climate statistics fraud.

    • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 3:05 pm #

      So, if you didn’t have whack-job Heller to think for you, where would you be?

      Blissfully silent, perhaps?

      • Sean Coleman November 11, 2020 at 3:01 am #

        Here we go, “think for yourself” again.

        Go on then, explain how you think for yourself.

  112. Sean Coleman November 10, 2020 at 2:39 pm #

    I learn from Peter Heller that Michael Mann is set to head Bidem’s ‘climate team, “and Michael Mann is so incompetent and dishonest as a scientist he had an entire book written about him entitled ‘A Disgrace To The Profesion’.” To say nothing about the infamous hockey stick study, the convoluted concerted effort to get it resurrected (after it had been comprehensively destroyed) so that the IPPC could use it again in their then-latest five-yearly report took things to a new level. This is recounted in detail in Christopher Booker’s The Real Climate Disaster. They were rushing to get his new paper accepted by an academic journal in time for inclusion in the report but it was too bad even for these. But rest assured, they managed to sneak it in one way or another in the end.

    I see close parallels with Prof Christian Drosten, whose elusive doctoral thesis (it turned up eventually but it is still not sure if it ever really existed seeing as they say it was not needed – or something or other) and his, er, 17 year partnership (he denies they are friends) with the owner of a company which has done very nicely manufacturing and distributing the worse-than-useless corona test to all corners of the globe and bringing about a world-wide economic standstill and virtual house arrest in many countries.

    They are both achieving the same end by different means.

    Men in white coatts. Let the science speak! Ha ha!

    • Soul Forensics November 10, 2020 at 2:54 pm #

      Mann is humanoid scum.

      He files nuisance suits against anyone who challenges his beloved hockey stick. Backed by major players in the climate ‘science’ shakedown racket, he easily silences almost everyone. Fortunately, Mark Steyn has enough $$ to fight back.

    • BackRowHeckler November 10, 2020 at 3:09 pm #

      John Kerry’s name has come up as the new Climate Czar too.

      Odd thing about Kerry is that he talks about sea level rise like it an imminent threat; at the same time he builds an oceanfront manse on Martha’s Vineyard right at waters edge that costs $40 million.

      When these climate grifters start f#kking around with the grid — closing coal and natgas fired plants and replacing them with windmills and solar panels — watch out. Get ready for frequent blackouts and brownouts, and utility bills no one can afford.

      Brh

      • Kim November 10, 2020 at 8:16 pm #

        @ brh

        They have been doing it in Australia for years. From cheapest electricity in the world in 1995 to the most expensive today.

        Continue to ship coal to China and India, which now have the cheapest electricty in the world.

        Make sense?

        The thing about this that is really shocking is that this is that as it happens in the USA – it will be as gradual a boiling-frog process as they can make it – it is going to have serious consequences for population numbers.

        This is not scare-talk, it is just common sense. The USA cannot support 330 million people on wind and solar – even though I am sure that reliable power will be retained for/rationed to large scale agriculture and mining, because that is producing for China.

        In the cities, however, there will be only solar and wind. That means there will not be enough poweer to run cars ands trucks or even a refrigerator for more than a couple of hours a day.

        It means the end of small business.

        The population will run down very fast at that stage because of

        1. Despair – drugtaking, suicide, no families or children, plummeting life expectancies

        2. Failing health through poor nutrition (the public health is already undermined by the food pyramid)

        How far can the population fall and how fast? Well, you need only one generation or two generations to halve their childbearing and American economy will disappear.

        Already they say that 25% of US women born in the 1990s will never have children.

        I hope those childless women will stiil be able to get their transfusions of cheap vin ordinaire, because they are going to need it.

        At a certain point – and I do not exaggerate – what would there be to prevent the Chinese colonizing the USA?

        • FreddieMars November 11, 2020 at 1:11 am #

          Would you just admit you’re an Australian?

        • benr November 11, 2020 at 4:13 pm #

          They already have.
          San Diego and Las Vegas as well as parts of Los Angeles are lousy with Chinese people.

  113. Sean Coleman November 10, 2020 at 2:53 pm #

    Peter Heller has become indispensable for me in learning about the climate swindle but this German is excellent. This is one of my favourite videos of his and if you want to learn the language then start here. What he does is reads out newspaper articles about global warming all round the world, each one claiming that temperatures there are “rising at double the world average”. I like his deadpan delivery. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytx_XOnupM8&list=PLdFyJ_aaUnWYRz6KiHarV3fU9JE640d7a&index=19&t=313s

    He is amusing when discussing little Greta.

    • Sean Coleman November 10, 2020 at 2:54 pm #

      Clue: everywhere the temperature is rising at twice the rate as the rest of the world.

      • Sean Coleman November 10, 2020 at 2:58 pm #

        One of the funniest books I ever read was by Siegfried Lenz, a serious writer who wrote a short volume of stories set in what I assume is now part of Poland, So Suss War Suleyken. It is seriously amusing.

  114. Pucker November 10, 2020 at 3:07 pm #

    Here is the Pennsylvania court case.

    https://cdn.donaldjtrump.com/public-files/press_assets/2020-11-09-complaint-as-filed.pdf

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    • Pucker November 10, 2020 at 3:22 pm #

      Potentially. 40% of the vote in Pennsylvania could be voidable.

      88. Out of the over 6.70 million votes cast for the Presidential election on November 3, 2020 in Pennsylvania, over 2.5 million of those votes were cast by mail-in or absentee ballot.
      89. Despite the unprecedented number of votes cast by absentee and mail-
      in ballots, Defendants failed to take adequate measures to ensure that the provisions
      of the Election Code enacted to protect the validity of absentee or mail-in ballots,
      including without limitation Act 77, were followed. This is crucial because the
      casting of votes in violation of the Election Code’s mandatory provisions renders
      them void. Absentee Ballots of Nov. 4, 2003 Gen. Election, 843 A.2d at 1234.

      • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 3:30 pm #

        Void it. Absentee has been abused prior and this year of all years has surely seen its abuse on a scale never before imagined.

        • Pucker November 10, 2020 at 4:38 pm #

          Almost 40% of the Pennsylvania vote could be nullified for blatant procedural errors.

          I voted by Absentee Ballot, but not in Pennsylvania. The materials included with the absentee ballot were very explicit that the vote wouldn’t count if the ovals were not completely filled in, and it was not placed inside the signed security envelop which is then placed in the outer mail in envelope. Basic stuff…

          But what they don’t tell you is that your Absentee Ballot still may not count if the morons and nincompoops processing your ballot do not follow proper procedures designed to provide a modicum of election integrity. And these Boobs are likely to be low IQ, minimum wage workers who may not be able to follow basic instructions and/ or may be flipped out on drugs, high fructose corn syrup, pizza, fast food, the American education system, Social media, or whatever. And that may be best case scenario. In Philadelphia, they’re likely to be very corrupt. What a ClusterFuck!

          • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 4:54 pm #

            Total mess and ripe for abuse. Absentee was never meant to become commonplace and this year they pulled out all the stops to make it suspect.

          • elysianfield November 10, 2020 at 6:42 pm #

            “morons and nincompoops processing your ballot do not follow proper procedures designed to provide a modicum of election integrity. And these Boobs are likely to be low IQ, minimum wage workers who may not be able to follow basic instructions and/ or may be flipped out on drugs, high fructose corn syrup, pizza, fast food, the American education system, Social media, or whatever…”

            Puck,
            Yeah, the wife worked as a paid temp for our Elections Department during our mail-in elections…did it for 15 years or so, and at almost a supervisory level at the end.

            I think the high-fructose corn syrup thing was part of her issues…go figure.

  115. Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 3:17 pm #

    https://westernrifleshooters.us/2020/11/10/the-reds-dont-want-you-to-see-this-video/

    #Detroitleaks

    Audio of state employee teaching poll workers how to teach in the days before the election.

    • Rupert November 10, 2020 at 3:27 pm #

      Ample evidence of urban machine chicanery all around.

      Ample evidence of ‘voting machine’ oddities as well.

      We shouldn’t be voting with machines or ‘by mail’ at all, seems rather insecure. Fraud was possible and plentiful prior, of course, but more the reason to push for strong reforms that decrease the likelihood via security.

      The assumption with elections should be the motive for fraud is always there- real power’s on the line- so the means and opportunity must be reduced. The null hypothesis shouldn’t be ‘clean election’ but instead ‘dirty election’ if we would seek for results to be trustworthy.

    • BackRowHeckler November 10, 2020 at 3:49 pm #

      Well, that’s the way it’s done in Kinshasa, Brazzaville and Nairobi, why not Detroit?

  116. tom clark November 10, 2020 at 4:52 pm #

    New credo for the CFN blog: “Just because it happened, doesn’t mean it did.”

    G’nite Kim.

    • Tate November 10, 2020 at 5:19 pm #

      Just because it was spun for Biden, doesn’t mean there aren’t legal remedies.

    • elysianfield November 10, 2020 at 6:36 pm #

      Tom,
      You sayin’ it all wrong…the correct verbiage;

      “Just because it happened doesn’t mean it’s true…”

      • Kim November 10, 2020 at 7:56 pm #

        I am in favor of truth over facts.

        • elysianfield November 11, 2020 at 10:47 am #

          Kim,
          I am beginning to suspect that there is no constant as to what is “truth”…seems to be an individual’s construct.

          In today’s reality, the terms “belief” and “truth” can be interchanged without much argument.

          You know…the “Rashomon” thing….

  117. John1945 November 10, 2020 at 5:19 pm #

    That’s the sitrep (situation report) as of Nov 10,2020:

    1.Democrats knew that they would have to cheat to win, but they didn’t think Trump would destroy Biden by that much, so in their haste to make more votes appear they got careless.

    2.When you get careless, mistakes become obvious, so when they knew they were about to get caught on many different things, they had their lapdogs in the MSM declare Biden the winner and then have the MSM not report all the fraud.

    3.The frauds that Biden and Harris are, they have no problem acting like they have won. They underestimated Mr.Trump and that will be their downfall.

    I do not want to post any links.

    So I tell you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
    Luke 11:9

    • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 5:57 pm #

      sitrep?

      • benr November 10, 2020 at 6:04 pm #

        Obviously you never served in the military.
        Situation report.

        • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 6:14 pm #

          I see – then what is the sense of using an idiotic term like ‘sitrep’ if you have to then immediately define it.

          Seems ‘sitrep’ is meant to save valuable time – might have been easier to just use situation report.

          I am a vet, dopey.

          • Kim November 10, 2020 at 7:55 pm #

            It might save even more of your “vaulable time” to just overlook the supposed error.

            Except that you have the common mental problem of “I am the great internet corrector”.

            Hey, I hear that someone at Breitbart mispelled something. Maybe you should fuck off over there and correct it.

          • elysianfield November 11, 2020 at 11:00 am #

            I am the Internet Corrector,
            Verbiage arbiter in this sector,
            While my efforts are sometimes “picayunish”.
            And my response to criticism “buffoonish”,
            My retort to your soured review,
            “Get thee to Satan…you ain’t talking to ‘Q'”

        • John1945 November 10, 2020 at 6:48 pm #

          benr-EMCON
          He/she/it is Bradley/Chelsea Manning.
          After he/she/it spent just a couple of days at Ft Leavenworth the building started shaking and almost collapsed.
          So the guards steered he/she/it outta the gate with a 10-feet pole.
          Now he/she/it is fighting for Justice.

    • Kim November 10, 2020 at 7:51 pm #

      @ John1945

      I don’t think that they even got careless. I think they actually fully believed that they would not be challenged.

      Certainly the media – even the Guardian! – is giving them cover.

      Armed bank robbery? What armed bank robbery?

      • John1945 November 10, 2020 at 8:14 pm #

        @Kim

        Guardian is absolutely the worst.I stumbled upon a couple of Guardian articles and could not believe my eyes.
        Guardian of f… what ???
        I am sure not all Brits are so woke but it is beyond me how they tolerate such treason of their Country in their midst.
        Sorry,it applies to me too.

      • Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 8:48 pm #

        Since when do banks have arms?

  118. FreddieMars November 10, 2020 at 5:38 pm #

    I’m looking for some perspective on where these fraudulent ballots have come from. I looked at The Guardian website and found this:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/nov/04/mail-in-ballot-tracker-us-election-2020

    The specifics of several state’s mail-in voting breaks down like this:

    # Registered Voters; # Requested Mail-In Votes; # Mail-In Votes Returned and Accepted.

    In each state listed, the number of Returned and Accepted Votes is way under the number of Requested Mail-In Votes. On the face of it, it’s hard to see where all these fraudulent votes have come from unless the deception is at the state level.

    GA 7.0 m 1.78m 1.32 m
    WI 3.58 1.42 1.28
    PA 8.9 3.1 2.62
    MI 8.03 3.32 2.84

    • Kim November 10, 2020 at 7:48 pm #

      @ FreddieMars

      I looked at The Guardian website

      I think I’ve found your problem.

      • FreddieMars November 10, 2020 at 7:59 pm #

        Condescension Level at 11 again.

      • FreddieMars November 10, 2020 at 8:02 pm #

        I take it then that

        1) you don’t believe the numbers reported because the outlet doesn’t give equal time to QAnon, and ipso facto, just makes things up; or

        2) you don’t believe that the reported numbers are true because the PA State officials are simply making things up; or

        3) both of the above.

        • Kim November 10, 2020 at 9:12 pm #

          @ FreddieMars

          I take it then that

          What you’ll “take” is what I feel like giving you, and you’ll be grateful for it.

          • FreddieMars November 11, 2020 at 1:05 am #

            Yes, Kim. I veritably quiver in anticipation of your next niggardly dose of extreme wisdom. Keep it coming!!!!

          • Q. Shtik November 11, 2020 at 12:07 pm #

            your next niggardly dose of extreme wisdom. – Freddie

            ===========

            Use of this word is forbidden by SJWs since it could be mistaken as a sneaky way to slip in an n-word reference.

          • FreddieMars November 11, 2020 at 4:35 pm #

            Q – No SJWs round here, pal.

  119. BackRowHeckler November 10, 2020 at 5:41 pm #

    CBS is laying down the law: beginning next year, 50% of reality TV show cast members must be non white.

    Commercial television is dying a slow death. Does anybody watch CBS anymore. Can you name even one program on CBS other than 60 Minutes? (Which isn’t the force it used to be)

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    • John1945 November 10, 2020 at 6:10 pm #

      My parents subscribed to National Geographic.Not 50% but probably 95% of covers featured some kind of Hottentot woman with nose rings and coffee-table-like butt.

      Back then it was fun to read about those humanoid apes.

      Later on,after watching politicians like David Dinkins(NYC),Kwame Kilpatrick(Detroit) and Marion Barry (WaPo in one of their rare lucid moments even wrote an article “To remove Mayor Barry from the office one must paint him white”)-it is not funny but absolutely nauseating.

      Thats why Dems are trying so hard to steal the election.

      Nowadays all the big blue-run cities are in deep financial hole.Therefore the solution is:

      NO RECONCILIATION WITHOUT TAXATION (meaning Reparations Tax)

      • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 6:19 pm #

        The big ‘blue-run’ cities consider the Heartland to be this thing that makes flights from coast-to-coast longer.

        Oh, and the corn comes from there – we think.

        Other than that, nobody really cares about regrettable places like Oklahoma, Tennessee, South Dakota … etc.

      • beantownbill. November 10, 2020 at 6:59 pm #

        In my town in Massachusetts, to get a final water meter reading cost $35. About 2 weeks ago, the water department raised the cost to $50, about a 43% increase. A proposal to build a new middle school recently passed. The cost is projected to be around $100 million after also getting millions in funding from the state for the new school and new roofs (supposedly badly needed) for other schools.

        In our condo complex, the current board of trustees (of which I headed, and from which I resigned at the end of April) wants to re-do all our roads for a cost of about $2 million, notwithstanding the fact that about half of them were re-done 10 years ago or sooner (they are supposed to last around 15-20 years). This will cost the homeowners around $5,000 apiece.

        I can afford – at this time, anyway – the extra taxes from the town and the increased condo fees for the roads. But many people can’t, being on fixed incomes or unemployed. People are dumb. They are not realizing that governments are going broke. ,akes me want to become a hermit. Expenses for everything are rising faster and faster. I don’t see how, as inflation is only a few percent (ha, ha, the fucking liars!).

      • beantownbill. November 10, 2020 at 7:06 pm #

        In my town in Massachusetts, to get a final water meter reading cost $35. About 2 weeks ago, the water department raised the cost to $50, about a 43% increase. A proposal to build a new middle school recently passed. The cost is projected to be around $100 million after also getting millions in funding from the state for the new school and new roofs (supposedly badly needed) for other schools.

        In our condo complex, the current board of trustees (of which I headed, and from which I resigned at the end of March) wants to re-do all our roads for a cost of about $2 million, notwithstanding the fact that about half of them were re-done 10 years ago or sooner (they are supposed to last around 15-20 years). This will cost the homeowners around $5,000 apiece.

        I can afford – at this time, anyway – the extra taxes from the town and the increased condo fees for the roads. But many people can’t, being on fixed incomes or unemployed. People are dumb. They are not realizing that governments are going broke. Makes me want to become a hermit. Expenses for everything are rising faster and faster. I don’t see how, as inflation is only a few percent (ha, ha, the fucking liars!).

        • tucsonspur November 10, 2020 at 7:18 pm #

          I’m in real trouble. I can’t get to the poker tables to keep up with expenses!

          • beantownbill. November 10, 2020 at 7:42 pm #

            Neither can I. But I just found out today that Foxwoods casino has become the first in the country to have a casino exclusively for people over 55 – including extra protection, whatever that may be. Those bastards are making it harder and harder for me to resist.

          • messianicdruid November 10, 2020 at 8:17 pm #

            Do casinos still have Poker Rooms?

        • John1945 November 10, 2020 at 7:27 pm #

          Have you noticed the 100-fold difference in building permit costs in small cities and big blue-run cities ?
          $100 vs $10000
          Are processing costs 100 times higher in Chicago ?

          That’s why unemployed college grads join BLM/Antifa
          Now that they want to be reclassified from independent contractors to employees and make this job permanent with full benefits the Reparations Tax appears to be the only option.

          George Soros may be rich but dem damn billionaries are moody,fickle and can’t be relied on-unlike 160M or so penitent YT’s.

        • Kim November 10, 2020 at 7:45 pm #

          It’s seems like what Sartre said might be true. Hell is other people.

        • BackRowHeckler November 11, 2020 at 12:25 am #

          That Board of Trustees position couldn’t have been much fun. Just a few years ago at a condo complex in town here a fistfight broke out at a Board of Trustees meeting, a serious one where people were hospitalized.

          • beantownbill. November 11, 2020 at 12:03 pm #

            It wasn’t fun. Maybe it was just me being intolerant of dumbness in people who hold responsible positions, or maybe I’m just plain intolerant of dumbness in anyone, period. But whatever, I chose not to deal with the majority of trustees who made bad (dumb) policy decisions, and as a board member, had to put my name besides theirs in notices to the community.

            And that wasn’t the worst of it. I won’t go into detail about the name-calling and lies I dealt with running for the board in the first place. That’s why there’s not enough money in the world to pay me to become a politician, and one reason why I sympathize with Trump.

            Whatever vestiges of faith in humanity I had left went out the window this year, and why I became negative about our future. People like the Honey creature are unfortunately too common.

      • malthuss November 10, 2020 at 7:23 pm #

        NG–last cover I recall was of the ‘Transgendered child or teen.’

    • Tate November 10, 2020 at 7:00 pm #

      Does 60 minutes have long-term contracts with nursing homes like CNN has with airports?

      • Pucker November 10, 2020 at 7:04 pm #

        Do they really show CNN in nursing homes? That’s cruel. They show CNN in the hotel bars.

        • Pucker November 10, 2020 at 7:08 pm #

          Do they show CNN in the mental hospitals? Death Row? Make Hannibal Lector watch CNN.

          • hmuller November 11, 2020 at 5:09 pm #

            Hannibal Lecter would get his own program on CNN; and probably be the greatest voice of reason there.

        • Tate November 10, 2020 at 7:25 pm #

          No, where’s your reading comprehension? They show CNN in airports, but as for 60 minutes, it seems like a good fit for nursing homes, wouldn’t you say?

          • Pucker November 10, 2020 at 8:07 pm #

            Do they show CNN to people high on fentanyl arrested in handcuffs on small TV screens in the backs of squad cars?

          • Tate November 10, 2020 at 8:41 pm #

            No that would be Cruel & Unusual Punishment.

  120. KesaAnna November 10, 2020 at 6:33 pm #

    ” Does anybody watch CBS anymore ? ”

    My best guess would be upper – class wokesters from Berkeley and Dartmouth ??

    Because , in my experience , even Black welfare mothers who vote strait progressive ticket will , never the less , pay through the nose for cable or satellite to avoid regular , free , TV.

    Though that is kinda sad too.

    Because even though you pay through the nose for cable or satellite , what your money pays for is pretty much nothing more than halfway – decently – written Pravda , as opposed to just – plain – garbage Pravda.

    Sort of like ” Inglorious Bastards ” is really just , ” The Texas Chainsaw Massacre ” with slightly better writers , A – List stars , and five times bigger a budget.

    But , otherwise , the same sort of porn – by – another – name.

    • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 6:43 pm #

      What sort of experience do you have with Black welfare mothers?

      • stelmosfire November 10, 2020 at 6:56 pm #

        Honey Process, please perform 100 sit reps on your the Democratic Donkey Dick. Thank you

      • benr November 10, 2020 at 7:04 pm #

        Don’t mess with Kesa she will shred your ass.

        • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 7:11 pm #

          She’s the big stick here? You will have to do better than that.

          • benr November 11, 2020 at 4:10 pm #

            No but she is a hell of a lot smarter than you.

      • KesaAnna November 10, 2020 at 7:09 pm #

        Enough to know that genuine working class folk never ask bullshit questions like that.

        Only rich DisneyLand dwelling – types do.

        Wellll ……. some working class people really are fucking moronic – level stupid.

        If one doubts that , just watch Jerry Springer re – runs.

        On the other hand , was the Jerry Springer Show produced by Burger King employees and Wal Mart greeters ?

        No. Like any other TV show , it was a product of folks with bachelors , masters , and even doctoral degrees , and deeper pockets than any denizen of a trailer park can even conceive of.

        So , obviously , the idea that education is going to save our ass is as bat – shit crazy as Marxism.

        • KesaAnna November 10, 2020 at 7:40 pm #

          Black welfare mothers can afford to pay through the nose for cable?

          Hmmm ,

          On second thought , I guess I should have put , ” pay through the nose ” in quotation marks .

          Because , after all , it’s a relative – type thing.

          Sitting on your ass watching TV — even if it is cable TV , even perhaps ( ? ) if it is pay – per – view Playboy Channel ,

          falls under the dirt cheap end of the hobby expense spectrum.

          One of the absolute best TV commercials I ever saw was for a credit card , and in the commercial they listed , item by item , the expenses involved in even quite modest and mundane hobby – type activities .

          Like , for example , taking the family on a picnic to a public park.

          Picnic basket = 20 dollars.

          Picnic basket contents / sandwich fixings = 40 dollars.

          Gas to put in the car to transport the family to the park = 30 dollars.

          And so on.

          Anyway , it’s amazing the number of people with degrees in mathematics who never the less are unaware that sitting on your butt watching cable TV is going cheap.

          I guess making 15 or 20 dollars an hour has this weird round – about way of atrophying peoples critical faculties.

          they can’t even tell the difference between cheap and expensive.

      • elysianfield November 11, 2020 at 11:07 am #

        “What sort of experience do you have with Black welfare mothers?”

        Honey,
        …more than you might expect.

    • elysianfield November 11, 2020 at 11:06 am #

      “Inglorious Bastards ”

      Kesa,
      THAT bit of drivel could reasonably be classified as Jewish Porn….

  121. KesaAnna November 10, 2020 at 7:00 pm #

    ” The main Consequence is a great loss of confidence in government by around 50 percent of the population and more. ”

    Eh , I have noticed that those Kennedy Assassination conspiracy theories , and Roswell UFO consipracy theories , for example , weren’t cooked up ( ? ) in 2019 .

    They were cooked up ( ? ) in 1970 , or even in 1960 .

    That is , they appeared on the scene when gasoline was still 25 cents a gallon , Howard Johnson’s was still king of the road , when America was still in every sense riding high.

    Now the salient point about Kennedy Assassination conspiracy theories , and Roswell UFO consipracy theories , is not whether they have any merit or not , whether there is any truth in them or not.

    The salient point is that such theories wouldn’t amount to any more than a paper boat on the Atlantic Ocean , and wouldn’t persist any longer than a snowball remains frozen in Hell ,

    unless there was already a profound degree of loss of confidence in the government.

    For a long time people were willing to overlook the fact that they lived in a thug state because you , too , might become rich.

    But , given the distinct possibility that gas just might rise to ten dollars a gallon within ones own life time ,

    bribery and wishful thinking are losing their power.

    Even otherwise very thick – headed people are beginning to realize that you are never going to be rich , that they are never going to invite you in to the country club .

    We became polarized at least 50 years ago , not yesterday.

    25 cent gas and 15 – dollar – an – hour wages just papered over the reality for a generation

  122. MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 10, 2020 at 7:23 pm #

    I will say this…whoever put this entire buildup and election plan together for the Dems is brilliant.

    They started it even before Trump moved into the presidential abode in Jan 2017, and have not stopped.

    The petulant whinings of the lumpen for four straight years was a bonus side effect, but the overall plan was amazingly artuiculate and well-implemented:

    1. Create a social climate wherein people just want the madness to stop. Fund and encourage social unrest and random violence, let criminals out of jail (cuz Covid), make people just wish for “normality”.

    2. Create as many election loopholes as possible in the lead-up to November (using Covid as a convenient excuse to make mail-in voting the norm), and exploit every possible weakness within that framework.

    3. Talk Biden’s poll numbers up the entire time so his supporters wouldn’t accept a loss as legitimate.

    4. Cheat in the election at 2am.

    5. Call the race prematurely (with Fox News leading the way to lend supposed credibility) to give Biden the moral high ground going forward. Trump then has an uphill battle of having to prove each case of murky, dark-of-night fraud, and Biden n’ Frenz can sit around saying “what a child, he’s undermining the very fabric of our democracy, this is exactly how a dictator would act, nothing to see here”.

    6. Have all media (social and MSM) then simultaneously mute as many opposing viewpoints as possible, name-calling and cancelling as they go.

    7. Accuse Trump first of all the things that they themselves did.

    8. Victory

    9. ?

    10. Profit

    • Tate November 10, 2020 at 7:32 pm #

      #9. You train your bindi replacement.

    • tucsonspur November 10, 2020 at 7:40 pm #

      Yes, elaborate and almost artistic. Uncannily devious!

  123. tucsonspur November 10, 2020 at 7:33 pm #

    Whatever the price, gas can be great for some people like Michael Franzese:

    https://video.nationalgeographic.com/tv/inside-the-american-mob/00000144-1516-dcf1-a954-55df4d960000

    A sensational scam by a sharp NYC mobster. Pumpin’ money. Way to earn!

  124. Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 9:39 pm #

    Jodi Shaw, an alum on staff at Smith College, asked Smith to start treating her as a human being, and not just a “White” (a nigger in other words). Pretty cool. She invokes the Civil Rights Act which applies to all races. And also reminds them that staff talking and/or organizing amongst themselves is a protected activity. Law suit!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blqpCMChBpI

    She was on Tucker last night and he seemed very impressed, inviting her back. She said it all started when a Black claimed racism against a White worker. It was investigated and found to be without merit. But then (as if in retaliation against the White being innocent), the College began a program of struggle sessions for Whites, some of them mandatory. When it was her turn to describe herself as a White person, she simply refused. They didn’t like that, seeing it a power move a la “White fragility” – as if real power is confessing to minorities that one is a monster.

    I just watched her on Tucker last night and the above “Dear Smith” video. She’s very believable, a “credible” witness. She’s going to be a nightmare for these people – and it sound like they richly deserve it.

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  125. John1945 November 10, 2020 at 9:49 pm #

    “But now, let’s give each other a chance. It’s time to put away the harsh rhetoric. To lower the temperature. To see each other again. To listen to each other again. To make progress, we need to stop seeing our opponents as our enemies. They are not our enemies, they are Americans”.
    Mr.Biden

    I cant believe how smart is the ventriloquist making The Corpse speak.
    After fanning the flames of race war all of a sudden they want healing,reconciliation,group hugs,big sloppy kisses…

    The last thing Dems can now afford is a reprieve. Like in a boxing match, when you’ve made your opponent stagger, you have to rush in with a flurry of punches to knock him out; and that is exactly what they plan to do.

    1.They’ll massively start closing alternative media outlets

    2.They will hit everyone with critical race theory and the like from kindergarten through the workplace

    3.There will be a frenzy of unrelenting pummeling of the opposition in order to prevent any critical analysis of the happenings over the last four years and in order to consolidate their gains.

    4.They will insert Reparations Tax into some innocent-sounding 2000 pages long Act and arrange US Congress to vote for it on Christmas Eve like they did with Income Tax,Federal Reserve Act and PATRIOT Act

    5…

    • Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 10:29 pm #

      The Biden Hologram promised critical race theory is going to be brought back. It’s just learning to be respectful of other people, he explained. He probably believes it too, his faculties dimmed as they are. But when he was capable of fully conscious Sin, he sinned and did so grievously.

      • John1945 November 10, 2020 at 10:59 pm #

        If you are interested you may read Biden/Sanders Mein Kampf or Communist Manifesto in full here:

        Democratic Task Forces Deliver Biden A Blueprint For A Progressive Presidency

        https://www.npr.org/2020/07/08/889189235/democratic-task-forces-deliver-biden-a-blueprint-for-a-progressive-presidency

        They are not shy about their plans for destruction.

        It begins slowly though,a-la Albert Gore.

        Environment.The most pressing concern.Nothing is more important than this f… environment.Make everything green like our posh leafy suburbs…Abolish manufacturing.Let remaining factories run on solar panels no matter what the cost…

        Then it gradually warms up.Police brutality,disadvantaged youth,release innocent babies from prisons – meaning go get the YT’s,at least those YT’s who cant afford to live in gated communities.

        I never volunteered for anything but I would volunteer to bury The Corpse myself and put a stake thru his chest.

  126. Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 10:00 pm #

    Top headline on NY Times site:

    Election Officials Nationwide Find No Fraud

    It’s over – now someone – perhaps’s trump’s nitwit son-in-law aka The Butler – needs to sit the Orange Horror down and tell him to fucking grow up for once.

    • Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 10:26 pm #

      They were all in on it then. They all need to be replaced at the very least, if not charged with sedition.

      • Honey Process November 10, 2020 at 10:46 pm #

        All of the election officials were secretly in on a voter fraud scheme.

        It is not the thing a functioning adult would say. Have you no pride whatsoever?

        Sedition? My God…

        • KesaAnna November 10, 2020 at 11:12 pm #

          ” All of the election officials were secretly in on a voter fraud scheme. ”

          I would agree ….

          except ….

          It’s no more far – fetched than the claim that there is nothing untoward , or the least suspicious , about there being only two viable political parties , for a period of over one hundred years and counting , in a state that covers 3 million + square miles and four time zones , with a diverse population of 300 + million.

          ” Have you no pride whatsoever? ”

          I don’t see you busting your ass to point out things which would be likely to make you unpopular with all big groups.

          And you ridiculed Sean Coleman who has a track record of doing just that.

        • Yohannon November 11, 2020 at 12:57 am #

          In key states at least. No claims of fraud – or any surprises – in most hard red states. But I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Democrats control the voting process, at least in the cities. Maybe surprises down the road in other words.

        • Night Owl November 11, 2020 at 3:08 am #

          Many of them appear to have been, based on the evidence.

          All documented. You were too incompetent.

  127. Yohannon November 10, 2020 at 10:42 pm #

    First do No Harm, O Covidians! Will you please care about society (as in other people) and not just yourselves or in the case of one here, Ingsoc, BBC, and Big Brother?

    First Do No Harm
    Open letter from health professionals and scientists to the Prime Minister

    We the undersigned British health professionals and scientists, wish to express our serious concern about the current situation regarding the outbreak of the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The management of the crisis has become disproportionate and is now causing more harm than good.

    We urge policy makers to remember that this pandemic, like all pandemics, will eventually pass but the social and psychological damage that it is causing, risks becoming permanent.

    We call for restoration of our normal democratic governance and for politicians to be independently and critically informed in the decision-making process. After the initial justifiable response to Covid-19, the evidence base now shows a different picture. We have the knowledge to enable a policy that protects the elderly and vulnerable without increasing all other health and economic harms and which is not at the expense our whole way of life and particularly that of the nation’s children.

    ‘First do no harm’ is a basic tenet of medical ethics, understanding that a cure must never be worse than the disease itself. However, there is increasing evidence that the collateral damage now being caused to the population will have a far greater impact in the short and long term, on all sections of the population, than the number of people now being safeguarded from Covid-19. In our opinion, the current measures, and the strict penalties for non-compliance, are contrary to the values formulated by Public Health England, which states, ‘We exist to protect and improve the nation’s health and wellbeing, and reduce health inequalities’ [1].

    We have somehow reached a situation where the whole of life in Britain, as in many countries, has focused on a single condition and one which is now endemic. ‘Zero’ Covid is not a realistic option in a global world. In this letter, we highlight many other areas of health and well-being that are now largely overlooked. We also look at an alternative strategy which we believe can best protect the vulnerable, whilst allowing most people to return to near normal life and provide references to just some of the many scientific papers which explain why we have reached this conclusion.

    Our current knowledge about covid-19

    At the beginning of the pandemic, the WHO predicted a disease that if uncontained would spread to maybe 50% of the world’s population claiming 3.4% victims, in other words millions of deaths by a highly contagious novel virus for which no pre-existing immunity or vaccine was available. Measures were understandable and widely supported, as there was concern that unprecedented pressure would be placed on our hospitals. Thus, the stated purpose of the initial lockdown was to “flatten the curve” and protect the NHS[2]. Hospitals rose to the occasion, Nightingale Hospitals were built, no one died for lack of intensive care facilities – a huge credit to the staff of the NHS.

    Gradually, as our knowledge has accumulated, it has become clear that objective facts show a different reality. The known global infection rate to date stands at less than 1% of the world population [3]. The true mortality rate is also over-estimated as we now know that many people have very mild or no symptoms and were thus not included in the testing regime at the start of the pandemic in the UK or elsewhere. We also know that serious disease and indeed death are linked to older age and pre-existing health conditions [4] , so it is on protecting this group that we should be concentrating.

    It has also become clearer that the pandemic has not exhibited truly exponential growth; rather, it has been shown to follow a classic Gompertz curve from the very early stages of each outbreak [5]. The Gompertz curve is used as the classic model of population dynamics in conditions where there is some limiting factor to the rate of growth. In the case of Covid-19 this observation supports the theory that a level of pre-existing immunity was present in the population prior to lockdown, thus limiting the spread of infection. This pre-existing immunity is probably due to immunity to common cold viruses which, in 40-60% of individuals, is thought to give some protection against Sars-CoV-2. In addition, we now know that exposure to the virus, even without symptoms, generates robust cellular immunity that is likely to have a long duration [6] [7]. Consequently, measurements of antibody prevalence in populations almost certainly give a serious underestimate of both exposure and immunity. It is vital we build on this immunity that is developing naturally in the population. Perversely population lockdowns could impede this process. Indeed, new evidence published this week, reports the potential increase in total deaths resulting from school and university closures. [8]. We also know a lot more about effective ways to treat Covid-19, such as early use of anticlotting agents and dexamethasone, plus avoidance of invasive ventilation. Evidence from both Germany and the UK show a significantly lower in-hospital mortality rate in the later stages of the epidemic [9],[10].

    Waiting for a vaccine

    This would appear to be the government’s main exit plan and is a strategy fraught with risk. We do not know when, or even if, an effective vaccine will become available. Any vaccine is unlikely to give complete protection against the virus and any protection may only be of short duration. A vaccine is also unlikely to provide superior protection to immunity that is developing naturally. Thus, a vaccine is only one tool to help limit viral spread and alone will not eliminate the disease. We feel these facts have not been made clear to the general public, many of whom view a vaccine as a simple solution to the pandemic [11].

    Widely publicised data is exaggerating the current risk

    Widespread population testing using PCR is distorting the current risk. Use of such a test in a clinical situation (as in pillar 1) was very helpful as a rapid screen but the testing strategy now seems to be driving policy. The problem of functional false positive rates has still not been addressed and particularly in the context of low prevalence of disease whereby false positives are likely to exceed true positives substantially and moreover correlate poorly with the person being infectious [12], [13]. Alongside this we have the issue that it is normal to see an increase in illness and deaths during the winter months. This is well known in the case of pneumonia and influenza. Any increase in positive cases and deaths therefore needs to be presented in the context of the normal seasonal illness/death rate. It is notable that UK death rate is currently sitting around average for this time of year [14]. The use of the term ‘second wave’ is therefore misleading.

    Adverse consequences of current measures in adults

    Social isolation has led to an increase in depression, anxiety, suicides, intra-family violence and child abuse [15]. Fear and persistent stress have a proven negative influence on psychological and general health [16]. Yet fear seems to be the main strategy for inducing compliance with government measures, whether fear of contagion, fear of prosecution or indeed calling on neighbours to report transgressors to the police, leading to further societal fracturing. The way in which Covid-19 has been portrayed by politicians and the media has done little to promote well-being. Metaphors invoking war and an invisible enemy have been widespread, together with phrases such as ‘care heroes in the front line’ and ‘corona victims’, fueling the idea that we are dealing with a global ‘killer virus’. Pervasive ‘stay safe’ messages give the impression that normal life has become perilously dangerous. The relentless daily presentation of the rising death toll was unleashed on the population in March, without interpreting those figures, without comparing them to flu deaths in other years, without comparing them to deaths from other causes. As death rates fell, the media swapped to highlighting rising ‘cases’. This coverage has induced unparalleled levels of fear in the population and, in particular, indoctrinates young children with a negative and potentially damaging narrative. Widespread use of masks may well be adding to fear but this is not being considered, despite limited scientific evidence of benefit [17].

    The NHS has been all but shut to non-Covid conditions and delays in diagnosis have been highlighted in general practice [18] and this is beginning to be revealed in rising waiting lists for cancer diagnosis and treatment [19] and excess non-Covid deaths [20] Moreover, the huge adverse effect on the economy and people’s livelihoods will have its own effect on increasing poverty and the health consequences of that, widening the gap between rich and poor [21], [22], [23].

    Adverse effects on children and young people

    As a demographic, children are disproportionately affected by the restrictions. Effects on children are particularly concerning especially knowing their extremely low likelihood of serious disease and the small part they play in viral transmission [24]. The Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health has reported delays in referral for diabetes, cancer and child protection issues [25]. Development and growth are also hampered through reduced social and family interaction, exacerbated by the ‘Rule of 6’. Reduced access to learning in schools, educational groups, extra-curricular activities, sport, nurseries and baby classes, all impact on children’s physical health and on their mental health [26]. Parents at many primary schools are now being asked to wear masks when collecting their children, so despite spending months explaining that this virus is not dangerous to kids or young adults, we are graphically showing them the reverse, adding to levels of fear.

    Widespread and excessive testing in educational settings is having an additional impact, exacerbating these issues. The parent group UsforThem has evidence of wide variation in how self-isolation rules are applied, with some schools sending home children with minor coughs and colds who are then refused re-entry to school without a negative test. Whole year groups are sometimes being sent home for a single ‘positive’ test but with no knowledge whether the child in question is truly infectious [27]. The emotional, physical and economic impact of such measures on young people and families is unparalleled [28].

    Lack of leadership and varied interpretation of guidance by individual educational settings, has resulted in the adoption of disproportionate Covid measures in large numbers of schools, nurseries and other childcare settings. Many of them raise serious issues of child welfare and safeguarding. The lack of any credible milestones to return to normal, cast-iron, full-time schooling, risks causing irreversible harm to the socio-educational prospects of a generation of children [29].

    Another way forward

    At present, there appears to be no clear exit strategy, other than waiting for a vaccine. It is clear that this virus has become endemic, yet current ‘protective’ measures are causing avoidable and likely long-term harm to society as a whole. People’s health, quality of life and livelihoods are in peril for a disease with a mortality rate comparable to many other diseases that befall us.

    We welcome the proposals by many respected medical professionals in recent open letters [30], [31], [32] in this regard and we ask the government to urgently consider the following strategy:

    1. Acceptance that Covid-19 will remain as one of several winter viruses.

    2. Public restrictions should be informed by a broad range of independent scientific and medical views, assessed on a benefit to harm ratio and debated in parliament before implementation.

    3. Urgently address the unreliability of PCR testing, by adhering to a published cycle threshold cut-off. Discontinue testing of asymptomatic adults and mildly symptomatic children.

    4. Produce a balanced long-term sustainable plan for dealing with NHS winter pressures.

    5. Consider fully the impact on children, young adults and family life in consultation with those who have the welfare of these groups at heart.

    6. Provide factual balanced and contextual advice to the public which allows individuals to manage their own risk.

    7. Concentrate efforts on supporting and protecting the most vulnerable. For example, urgently identify health or social care facilities where COVID infected patients can convalesce until no longer infectious, thus avoiding early discharge to care homes.

    8. Encourage the return to normal life for the less vulnerable members of society with the understanding that this will help to generate population immunity and thus suppress the spread of the virus in the longer term.

    We urge policy makers to remember that this pandemic, like all pandemics, will eventually pass but the social and psychological damage that it is causing, risks becoming permanent.

    Dr Rosamond Jones, MBBS, MD, FRCPCH (paediatrician, grandparent, #UsforThem)

    Dr Charlotte R Bell MA, VetMB, PhD, MRCVS (immunologist, veterinary surgeon, parent)

    Malcolm Loudon, MB ChB, MD, FRCSEd, FRCS, MIHM (consultant surgeon, parent)

    Christine Padgham MSc (medical physicist, parent)

    Co-signatories

    Professor Ellen Townsend, Professor of psychology, University of Nottingham, Reachwell.org

    Professor Anthony Brookes, Department of Genetics & Genome Biology, University of Leicester

    Professor Anthony Fryer, Professor of Clinical Biochemistry, University of Keele

    Professor David Livermore, Professor of Medical Microbiology, University of East Anglia

    Professor David King, Emeritus professor of clinical psychopharmacology

    Professor David Paton, Professor of Economics, University of Nottingham

    Professor Keith Willison, Professor of Chemical Biology, Imperial College, London

    Professor Kenneth Strain, Professor of Physics, Glasgow University

    Professor Martin Evison, Emeritus Professor of Pathology

    Professor Mike Hulme, Professor of Human Geography, University of Cambridge

    Professor Richard Ennos, Professor of Biological Sciences, Edinburgh University

    Professor Stephen Cooper, Professor of Psychiatry, retired. grandparent

    • Kim November 10, 2020 at 11:02 pm #

      Unacceptable. No blacks ( I very confidently speculate) and far, far too many men in that list.

      • Soul Forensics November 10, 2020 at 11:32 pm #

        And what about all those Davids? David is a Biblical name, which of course means Christianity, which links to the Patriarchy!

    • Q. Shtik November 11, 2020 at 12:02 am #

      TLDR

    • Yohannon November 11, 2020 at 12:47 am #

      The document can be found over on reddit, if you want the footnoted sources. Or you can find link I posted yesterday.

      • GreenAlba November 11, 2020 at 7:08 am #

        Leaving aside the predictably stupid comment by Kim, it’s a good letter, more or less.

        Reflects discussions in this household too.

        It does miss out some nuance – for example it’s fine (and necessary) to try to to keep up with non-Covid activity in hospitals, but it has to be remembered that, with the best will in the world, some vulnerable people will go to hospital and contract Covid while they’re there, as happened to 6 unfortunate cancer patients who died in the same week last month after a Covid outbreak in their unit at my local hospital. It’s why lots of people stayed away during the early part of the year when they should have presented for treatment.

        I await with interest the government’s response to point 4 of the proposed strategy (Produce a balanced long-term sustainable plan for dealing with NHS winter pressures), since no-one has produced such a plan to date. Well, Jeremy [H]unt did promise 5000 more doctors but only managed to succeed in losing a whole lot more of those who were already there, by his shameless treatment of the profession while in tenure as Health Secretary (he’s biding his time now – expect to see him contending for PM again when the Tories get the knives out for Boris).

        And Boris promised 40,000 (?) ‘extra’ nurses but it transpired that his figure included as ‘extra’ managing to keep hold of 20,000 they otherwise expected to leave the profession in the same period, by improving their working conditions. Not that it mattered anyway, as it was just words on paper, which Boris is good at – The Telegraph always paid him more than his political commitments did.

        Flying by the seat of your pants is the way it’s generally done, and taking advantage of the goodwill of underpaid staff. Being short of 40-50k nurses and 5k doctors before an epidemic even starts is not a good place to be. And the general public demand excellent healthcare but please don’t make me pay what it actually costs. We’ll clap for you instead on a Thursday night. Yeah …

        I forgot to mention your own stupid comment in the first line of your post. Clearly the concept of listening to the nooz and actually commenting on it at home, instead of absorbing it like cigarette smoke, is beyond your imagination.

        • Yohannon November 11, 2020 at 11:03 am #

          Despite your nuance, you are still buying into the whole PANDEMIC (sounds almost like pandemonium) terror as drummed up the Globalist media. The paper disparages that from the first paragraphs as being immensely harmful. Thus despite some congruence between your pov and the letter, in spirit a vast gulf separates you. They are reasonable in the deepest existential way. Your reason is only on the surface. You simply will not renounce your allegiance to the terrorists. And it is so much a part of you that you can’t even see it.

          • GreenAlba November 11, 2020 at 1:07 pm #

            Don’t tell me what I’m buying into, thanks. In this household we’ve been for nuance from the start. I know you love to think you know people better than they know themselves, even though you’ve never met them, but that’s just in your head.

            Covid still isn’t ‘just the flu’ – I’m still waiting for you to tell me about any year you know of when 120 medical staff died in the UK taking care of their flu patients. Or when 30 bus drivers died of flu in a few months in London. And I haven’t heard of tens of thousands of people living with ‘long flu’ either.

            I would refer you to my statement to cc rider back in August:

            https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/good-trouble-and-not-good-trouble/#comment-510902

            And to another one of a couple of months ago when I said how amused I was to find myself light years to the libertarian side of Boris Johnson.

            And the one long before that, when Thwack posted a long interview with Prof. Johan Giesecke, outlining the Swedish approach, which I listened to and judged (openly, on here) to be ‘very persuasive’.

            I continue to think the first month of lockdown was reasonable enough, given a number of critical care units were bursting at the seams (but didn’t quite crack, thanks to many of the staff working double shifts, some of them while living in hotels to spare their families) and we didn’t know what we were dealing with.

            The trouble with you is that you never exchange views with me – you address the caricature in your head. Which is fine, if that’s what meets your psychological need, but it all remains in your head. I realise that you need to carry on like that to promote your own opinion of yourself, but it leaves you ignorant.

            “You simply will not renounce your allegiance to the terrorists. And it is so much a part of you that you can’t even see it.”

            Tragic.

          • Yohannon November 11, 2020 at 5:14 pm #

            Perhaps. Your inability to ever explain why you support Muslims being in the UK may have ruined you for me. Plus your inability or unwillingness to project current trends into the future to see that Whites are slated to become a minority in their own European countries within a century or so. I never said you were dumb, just a slave. Most people are like this. I would trust you to teach kids grammar, but not philosophy.

            You are Anglo not Celtic in terms of ethnic psychology. As Kipling said, Anglo reasoning is very obscure in terms of how they come to hold the views they hold or do the things they do. A Celt will tell exactly what he believes and why. Anglos can’t, and will resent being asked to do so. And those few who can, won’t, often for the same reason: resentment.

            I don’t let this like this stop me, obviously. I probed and ultimately found out you get your viewpoints from Globalists who can’t wait until Whites disappear. This seems normal to you because you are a follower. People who disagree with this respectable viewpoint are utterly gauche in your Neo-Victorian book. Imagine Whites wanting to keep their nations! To survive as a People! Who ever heard of such a thing!

          • GreenAlba November 11, 2020 at 7:12 pm #

            “Perhaps. Your inability to ever explain why you support Muslims being in the UK may have ruined you for me.”

            Ruined for you … Oh, the ignominy. Not. Your own inability seems to be to refrain from answering your own questions.

            Saying that I ‘support Muslims being in the UK’ is like saying I support the sun going down in the evening. Muslims live here. Some came (were brought) as far back as the 16th century, for which I gave you evidence very recently. The majority of those who are not first generation are the descendants of those who came as a result of the British Raj and its demise. They and their families are British citizens. Many of their compatriots (while not living here) fought and died in our wars.

            What I don’t support is (a) such British citizens or their descendants acting up, e.g. getting radicalised and turning on their fellow citizens or (b) refugees given sanctuary and not acting as gracious guests. Those that come under (b) should be deported as quickly as possible – and generally are, if they do anything serious; those that come under (a) present a more complicated problem, given the reality of international law. They don’t have another ‘home’ to be sent back to and there is no obligation under international law for any other country to take them. If they have to languish in jail (preferably unnamed and unremembered) so be it.

            “You are Anglo not Celtic in terms of ethnic psychology […]”

            A verbal stew. My antecedents appear to be Vikings, mostly. Which means no more than if they were Celts. Or Sassenachs. I speak as I find.

            I have absolutely no aspiration to see white people disappear – your nonsense in that regard is merely a repetitive irritation.

          • GreenAlba November 11, 2020 at 7:30 pm #

            It is astonishing how you can turn a discussion of Covid management into one about Muslims.

            But I suppose I shouldn’t really be surprised.

            You’re determined to sit opposite me in that imaginary cell under a bare lightbulb until you make me say what you want me to say.

            Vee haff vayz etc. etc.

          • Yohannon November 11, 2020 at 11:22 pm #

            Shades of Mitterarand’s (to Muslims), You’ve contribued just as much to Europe as Christianity. Our house is your house.

            You are drinking from a poisoned spring. Ever have they come as invaders bringing rapine and death. You have to choose. I have little doubt you will choose wrongly.

            Viking, eh? Your people are hard pressed now. One Swedish Anthropologist admitted that when they find Viking artifacts now, they throw them away. The official narrative is that the Norse had no culture of their own.

          • GreenAlba November 12, 2020 at 5:53 am #

            “Shades of Mitterarand’s (to Muslims), You’ve contribued just as much to Europe as Christianity. Our house is your house.”

            At no point did I say that. Or shades of it.

            I said Muslims were brought here centuries ago, in moderate numbers. That is a historical fact, nothing more. They were allowed in In greater numbers last century after the demise of the Raj. I am fine with Muslims who behave themselves in public according to the customs of their host or new nation. The radicalisation of Muslims here is a relatively recent phenomenon and, when it started, tended to involve the children and grandchildren of those who first came, not the earlier generations who arrived in the 40s/50s. It is to be deplored. I’m not much into spies, but I do have to admire the brave Asian ones who keep an eye out for us by being moles in radical mosques and reporting back on our behalf. The greater number of Jihadist atrocities are those that are nipped in the bud and never happen.

            I don’t have a particular view of the Vikings and their culture (chronological snobbery is a bit pointless), and they aren’t, in any meaningful way, ‘my people’. They committed horrendous atrocities when they arrived, then settled in, intermarried, and became farmers. We owe lots of place names to them (Whitby, Maltby, Hornby …). And you can participate in Up Helly Aa up in Shetland if you fancy some pagan jollities to brighten up the dark winter months.

            You seem to think it matters to me whether my ancestors of a millennium ago were potentially Vikings or Celts or Sassenachs (I refer merely to the technicality of DNA, via a test done by my nephew). It is the fleeting interest of a moment and meaningless to anything that matters. I am Scottish, British and a little bit European. That does me. My own life affects no-one beyond my family, friends and neighbours. Obsession with bloodlines is lunacy.

          • GreenAlba November 12, 2020 at 7:13 am #

            And ‘Scandinavian’ was merely the biggest chunk – a little under 40%. The rest was the usual mongrel mixture. People who obsess over such factoids need something to do.

        • malthuss November 12, 2020 at 11:33 am #

          I liked Kims comment.

  128. Kim November 10, 2020 at 11:15 pm #

    This reporter was an observer at an election count center in Detroit. He explains how, among other problems, ballots that were cured according to local rules – a new ballot filled out and the old ballot discarded – were cured without adequate oversight and that such cured votes were not discarded but on the contrary were counted alongside their duplicates.

    https://townhall.com/columnists/ricktiseo/2020/11/09/the-threat-to-free-and-fair-elections-is-real-i-saw-it-n2579746

    “That’s just the tip of the iceberg. I also observed instances of names, envelope numbers, and ballot stubs that didn’t match those on the poll books. I saw poll workers assign the ballots of unregistered voters to different people in the poll book, even if that voter had already cast a ballot in-person. I saw poll workers consistently fail to verify name, voter number, and ballot number. Before poll challengers were even available, absentee ballots were opened and assigned a voter number prior to Election Day—entirely against our procedure. These ballots were even left open overnight in haphazard containers.”

    The problem with all of this, though, is that we still don’t have any evidence.

    Evidence. Evidence. If only we could find some damned evidence!

    • KesaAnna November 10, 2020 at 11:38 pm #

      ” Evidence. Evidence. If only we could find some damned evidence! ”

      Yeah , I think something along those lines every time someone suggests to me , with a strait face , that there is nothing at all peculiar about the fact that such a huge country , of such diversity , has only had two viable political parties for over a hundred years.

      Nope , nothing very fucking weird about that !

      • Yohannon November 11, 2020 at 12:31 am #

        Normalcy bias on psychic steroids, distributed daily via mass media, especially “the news”.

        • Kim November 11, 2020 at 1:08 am #

          This is why one of the first things revolutionaries do is to capture the tv and radio stations.

    • Yohannon November 11, 2020 at 12:38 am #

      Yes, our interlocutors seem to expect us to pull a rabbit out of the proverbial hat and pass it to them thru the screen. Giving them these examples of things that have been found and law suits in motion doesn’t seem to be enough. They are very concrete in their demands, like a baby wanting a rattle.

      Unfortunately we are several technological breakthroughs away from being able to pass objects or “evidence” through screens. Too bad because I’d like to put my hands through the screen and…..

    • Q. Shtik November 11, 2020 at 12:45 am #

      Evidence. Evidence. If only we could find some damned evidence! – Kim

      =============

      How many times must I repeat this? I personally have submitted two fraudulent official mail-in ballots. Middlesex Cty, NJ sent two ballots to my home addressed to my sons who haven’t lived here for 20 years. In the meantime my sons received legitimate ballots where they live in states other than NJ. They filled out those ballots and sent them in. Then I completed the erroneous ballots in their names (they don’t know I did this) and placed them in drop boxes. I wrote a letter to the Middlesex Cty Clerk and told him what I had done just to prove it could be done. I sent copies of that letter to the NYT and Newark Star Ledger. Everything was done anonymously and I wore rubber gloves when handling the paperwork. Easy peasy.

      • Yohannon November 11, 2020 at 12:48 am #

        Did you wear a mask while doing this? Are you willing to sign an affadavid?

        • Q. Shtik November 11, 2020 at 11:36 am #

          When you misspelled the word affidavit did you notice a squiggly line appeared under the word? And you said “Fuck it, close enough for government work.”

          • Yohannon November 11, 2020 at 5:16 pm #

            Nice tall tail. Government work? Have you decided that I am a paid troll as your conferees have always believed?

  129. KesaAnna November 10, 2020 at 11:20 pm #

    I agree , and yet , at best I’m really annoyed , at worst , fucking pissed off .

    ” ‘Zero’ Covid is not a realistic option in a global world. ”

    Uh…. you need a bunch of letters after your name , and a fancy resume , to see that ?

    ” The known global infection rate to date stands at less than 1% of the world population ”

    I have pointed that out here , two or three times.

    And , more to the point , i have pointed out THAT IT TAKES LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES TO LOOK THAT UP.

    By no fucking stretch of the imagination is that a rocket science – type task , endeavor , or job description.

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    • Kim November 11, 2020 at 1:52 am #

      Conspiracy theorist.

    • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 1:58 am #

      It is close to 8% in the US under the inspired ‘leadership’ of DJT and the Hoosier Snoozer

      We all stand proud, America being #1 once again

      71 million wanted 4 more years of this bullshit. And they are not going to get it, thankfully.

      • KesaAnna November 11, 2020 at 2:30 am #

        ” It is close to 8% ”

        The problem with your narrative , at least in my case , is that I accept , on their face , as is , the highest , most generous , mortality figures given.

        If they say that a guy who got cut in half in an auto accident never the less died of Covid , I go ahead and accept that number.

        And it still doesn’t fucking add up to 8% .

        • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 8:51 am #

          Oh yes it is. At least 8%

          And you can just about overlay the Covid map on top of the electoral map and guess where the worst situations are?

          That’s right – trump country – people dumb enough to listen to this fool.

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 11, 2020 at 9:28 am #

            You again, Ms. Demic/Jagoff? Find another hobby, please.

      • Kim November 11, 2020 at 4:08 am #

        The CDC says around 10,000.

        And it wouln’t be that high if de Blasio hadn’t murdered so many old people himself.

        • Kim November 11, 2020 at 7:40 am #

          Sorry. Correction. Gov Cuomo.

          • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 8:52 am #

            No need to correct – nobody takes your moronic assertions seriously.

  130. Kim November 11, 2020 at 12:31 am #

    James O’Keefe provides a super-creepy recording of a postal service “investigator” trying to gaslight and intimidate whistleblower Richard Hopkins into recanting his testimony about coordinated postal fraud/ballot backdating.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1326337154050641920

    Super, super creepy. The interviewer is, in a very professional way, making confusing hypnotic suggestions. Clearly a highly trained confuser. Weak spirits would succumb.

    Sirhan Sirhan where are you?

    And by the way, this is why you never make statements to or engage with law enforcement without your legal rep present.

    • Kim November 11, 2020 at 12:38 am #

      Veritas will release the entire two hour interview tomorrow.

  131. KesaAnna November 11, 2020 at 2:01 am #

    ” And by the way, this is why you never make statements to or engage with law enforcement without your legal rep present. ”

    After all , that is precisely what U.S. Presidents , whether Democrat or Republican , do.

    It’s a funny thing though;

    It’s good enough for Reagan and Trump ,

    and it’s good enough for Obama and Clinton.

    But if a peasant says , ” No , I don’t want to talk to you without a lawyer present ” ( And the lawyer is gonna say , ” Don’t talk to those assholes , they are not on the level ” )

    then that , a priori , means you must have something to hide !

    THAT is one of the reasons I never take people seriously when they say it’s a free country , or that you have rights.

    It’s not like you need to read a hell of a lot of books about the Third Reich or the Soviet Union to recognize that as strait , undiluted , totalitarian thought.

    • Kim November 11, 2020 at 2:32 am #

      @ Kesa

      Same with “lie detectors”. Once the cops have a fix on someone, it doesn’t matter what the “lie detector” shows. They just say that the suspect “beat it” somehow.

      Anyone who watches First 48 knows that they can’t even successfully charge a man standing over a body holding a smoking gun unless they can get him talking.

  132. Kim November 11, 2020 at 2:22 am #

    Really?

    How childish, how immature, how <emotionally incontinent are these people?

    Is this an adult?

    https://twitter.com/eddiezipperer/status/1326206903513452545

    • Night Owl November 11, 2020 at 2:55 am #

      That is Ken Dilanean, a guy the LA Times fired when they found out he cleared his articles and was coordinating directly with the CIA.

      The Intercept did a piece on this (back when it was still a respectable outlet).

      https://theintercept.com/2014/09/04/former-l-times-reporter-cleared-stories-cia-publication/

      • Kim November 11, 2020 at 4:04 am #

        @ Night Owl

        It becomes more obvious to me every day how deep the CIA is into this hoax.

        If you listen to the guy doing the interview with Richard Hopkins it seems to me perfectly clear that he is using language in very structured and deliberate ways to intimidate and confuse him and to get him into a fearful and suggestible state.

        Very CIA stuff.

        The good news is that the CIA always fucks up and have never in 70 years successfully kept a secret.

  133. Night Owl November 11, 2020 at 2:38 am #

    “Over 51,000 [Absentee Pennsylvania] ballots are marked as returned just a day after they were sent out…Nearly 35,000 were returned on the same day they were mailed out.”

    “More than 23,000 have an impossible return date—earlier than the sent date.”

    https://twitter.com/themarketswork/status/1326240644067553281

    Ahahahahahahahahahahaha!

    • FreddieMars November 11, 2020 at 6:58 pm #

      So, have this evidence put to a judge and sue to have them tossed. What other option is there?

  134. SoftStarLight November 11, 2020 at 3:30 am #

    I love our Real President, Donald Trump. This super fake self declared “President Elect” who has not won a certified election in any state yet is so decrepit and tired and he hasn’t even started. It’s a real travesty they faked an entire presidential campaign using the leftovers of the worn out and rotting political capital of this cognitively declining man. Why not just run Kam honestly as the prez candidate? And now we know why they ran the campaign from Joe’s basement. They never needed to campaign really because the vote fix was in the whole time. Voter fraud is a well known Democrat franchise. They have stolen so many elections and everybody knows it but up till now they always got away with it. But who else colluded? The pollsters for sure to suppress and depress the Trump vote, the media, and big tech, the usual suspects. And their blatant censorship since the election has even the most basic normies questioning the entire set up. This is good. All of our institutions. All of them are compromised and designed to benefit the Democrats and their elite globalist benefactors. Not the American people. No one with more than fore brain cells has missed that detail by this point. Based on all of this the presidential election must be voided. It’s past the point of people feeling simply that we have been robbed and has escalated to a point where the system if it stands will simply be viewed as illegitimate and in deep need of replacing. The fraud and the breathless rapid fire media response to crush any and all mention of the fraud prove that point many times over. So Trump will stay in office!! Potus said last week that if all LEGAL votes are counted he wins. Ultimately the Democrats, the media and the tech companies are already debunked and being prepared for the trash compactor.

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    • Kim November 11, 2020 at 4:15 am #

      “The digital platform, Eventbrite has falsely announced the cancellation of the “March for Trump” while removing the event from their website.”

      The criminals even emailed people to tell them it was cancelled. It is not.

      Others, such as Facebook and Mailchimp have already blocked organization of this event. But the event will go ahead.

      It is still scheduled for

      Saturday, Nov 14th

      12PM, Freedom Plaza

      The Twitter tags are #MillionMagaMarch and #MarchForTrump.

    • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 8:48 am #

      How touching

      Don’t worry, like all accomplished con-artists he has his next long con planned out already. Has any grifter had 71 million potential suckers lined up before? Something about a ‘trump netowrk’ where this ignorant gasbag will charge some outrageous amount for the privilege of listening to his illiterate ramblings.

      Our world.

  135. Kim November 11, 2020 at 4:22 am #

    Ballots for @realDonaldTrump found in the trash at an Oklahoma polling facility.

    Real video evidence. Yes actual evidence!

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/STOPTHESTEAL?src=hashtag_click

    On the same page a postal worker shows video of more ballots he is still delivering.

    • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 8:54 am #

      Wow! Actual evidence!

      • Yohannon November 11, 2020 at 11:08 am #

        In other words, you admit you don’t care who really won the election because you don’t really believe in Democracy anyway.

        • benr November 11, 2020 at 6:36 pm #

          Does anyone believe in DEMOCRACY?

          REPUBLICS yes!

  136. Pucker November 11, 2020 at 8:26 am #

    I don’t think that people appreciate what happened. They opened the floodgates to voting by absentee ballots without the ability and means to process the flood of absentee ballots so that they legally count.

    In some places, there were literally hundreds of thousands of absentee ballots. There’s no Fuck’n way that they checked the signatures on every ballot against the signatures on the voter roles. They probably just opened up the envelopes as fast as they could and then ran the ballots Willy nilly into the scanners as fast as they could without any real due diligence? And that assumes no corruption, and there was a lot of corruption, particularly in Philadelphia.

    • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 8:54 am #

      There remains no evidence whatsoever of fraud or corruption.

      Sorry – trump is our saddest footnote – already a forgotten symbol of relaxing our vigilance.

      • messianicdruid November 11, 2020 at 8:58 am #

        So, sworn affidavits subject to perjury are not considered evidence by you? What would you accept as proof, video with audio, signed confessions, what?

        • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 9:01 am #

          Credible evidence brought before a judge whereupon that judge decided there is sufficient reason to hear the case in a court of law.

          And of course there is nothing like that. Nothing.

          On Jan 20th trump becomes a trespasser at 1600 Penn – it will be great fun to watch the US Marshalls remove his fat ass.

          • Disaffected November 11, 2020 at 9:06 am #

            Janet, is that you again? Honey Process, is that your street name? A little derivative, but reasonably catchy, I guess. Not like anyone remembers it after they’re done anyway, right?

          • Yohannon November 11, 2020 at 11:10 am #

            We’ll see what the Supreme Court says then. Too bad your Buzzy fell from the skies….

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 11, 2020 at 9:34 am #

        Here’s hoping our host makes you the next footnote. Please keep making useless comments.

    • Disaffected November 11, 2020 at 9:02 am #

      As someone who processes a fair amount of data in my work myself (manual data base updates, usually with multiple data source feeder systems to wade through simultaneously), I can assure you that’s exactly what happened. You tend to “get in the zone” when accomplishing such repetitive tasks in such high volume, where you develop an almost mindless process and go at it with a vengeance. You turn off your brain and rely on instinct. It’s the only thing that keeps you sane. It’s also why the Civil Service test for postal worker sorters (don’t know if they still give that, given technological advances) is almost impossible to pass.

      I see that, quite predictably, they’re ramping up the CV19 hysteria on the local and national news this morning. Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit, all the way down the drain. To the sewers, men!!!

      • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 9:42 am #

        I suppose El Paso is making all that up about having no space at the morgue – now having to use temporary mobile morgues to deal with the Covid fatalities?

        I know – fake news! fake news!

    • Pucker November 11, 2020 at 9:30 am #

      It really is amazing that apparently not a single reporter is looking into this, and the MSM in chorus is just parroting the Talking Point: “No evidence! No evidence!”

      It looks very Dark and totalitarian.

      Sick Society….

      • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 9:44 am #

        Indeed sick – though not the way you meant it.

        We conducted this election in a remarkable fashion given the horrendous circumstances. My hearty thanks to all those hard workers who gave us a fair vote.

        Pay no attention whatsoever to these nitwits screeching about voter fraud. It is just adolescent sour grapes. Nothing else.

      • Kim November 11, 2020 at 10:12 am #

        It doesn’t matter what reporters do. They have disgraced themselves for all of history and will never recover their reputations.

        Just observe that it is the Supreme Court that now matters.

        And Trump, Giuliani, Grenell, Bondi, etc, look very relaxed.

        In fact, now that he has rested and played a few rounds, I think Trump looks like the cat that swallowed the canary.

        Not only has he kept the Senate, and may take the House, he has triumphed down ticket across the country, even in blue New England states.

        https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/11/10/deeply-blue-new-england-disrupted-by-republican-wins-in-down-ballot-races/

        When the Supremes throw out the election as hopelessly tainted by fraud and/or Constitutional violations, the D world will realize its dreams are smashed:

        – the end of 230 and the break up of tech media monopolies

        – introduction of consistent federal voting laws via the civil rights act

        This would be the end of communists being able to use the D party as a stalking horse through middle america.

        Commies can’t survive with free and fair elections. No normal person votes to defund the police or abolish the suburbs or to cut off little boys’ dicks.

    • FreddieMars November 11, 2020 at 7:03 pm #

      Al Schmidt, Republican City Commissioner, Philadelphia (the guy in charge of the vote count), specifically debunking the ‘dead voters’ meme, among other things:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxBaMbQMeEs

  137. Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 9:24 am #

    We are Veteran’s Day in the magical year of 2020

    The nation awaits as gallant Commander Bonespurs plans to honor all those suckers and losers. Stay tuned.

    • James Kuehl November 11, 2020 at 10:23 am #

      He is firmly establishing his legacy as the puniest puke to ever hold the office.

      • Kim November 11, 2020 at 10:28 am #

        At the present rate of 10 miles a week, President Trump Wall will be over 1000 miles long in just a year from now.

        You won’t be able to see it from the moon, but from Tijuana you won’t be able to miss it.

        • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 10:46 am #

          I have it on excellent authority that the Trump Wall was really intended to keep Americans in if the unthinkable happened and this two-bit con artist was re-elected.

          Thankfully that did not happen and we will soon be free of him and his grotesque family.

      • Yohannon November 11, 2020 at 11:13 am #

        You used to be cool. Now you just a fool.

    • elysianfield November 11, 2020 at 11:20 am #

      “… plans to honor all those suckers and losers.”

      Honey,
      For that you will be judged.

      • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 11:43 am #

        You can’t possibly be that obtuse…

      • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 11:44 am #

        Are you really this obtuse?

        • elysianfield November 11, 2020 at 6:24 pm #

          Yes,
          And a Veteran
          And a Military Brat.

          Millions have served…and from my generation, most of our parents. Perhaps there is another perspective? Millions served, maybe a total of 1,000,000 dead. They were all suckers and losers?

          Some maybe, certainly not all, or even most.

    • BackRowHeckler November 11, 2020 at 11:42 am #

      I don’t know HP, I have a 2nd cousin who is a Warrant Officer in the Marine Corps and a nephew in the Army; according to both of them President Trump is popular with the troops. They like him.

      • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 11:48 am #

        Too small a sample there. The military brass considers trump to be a dangerous nitwit. They are relieved he is going.

        • benr November 11, 2020 at 3:55 pm #

          I got news for you most of what you post is still flat wrong.
          Living in San Diego I deal with both law enforcement and Military if not daily at least on a weekly basis and by a huge margin they approve of Trump and disapprove of Biden and even more of Kamala.

  138. wm5135 November 11, 2020 at 9:31 am #

    May I ask where the majority of the recent commentors were between 1980 and 2016?

    “The very ink with which all history is written is merely fluid prejudice.” – Pudd’nhead Wilson

    and they think that Reagan, Clinton, Obama and Trump were brought to the stage by different sponsors

    “There are those who scoff at the schoolboy, calling him frivolous and
    shallow: Yet it was the schoolboy who said ‘Faith is believing what you know ain’t so’.” – Pudd’nhead Wilson

    The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reports the CPI on a monthly basis and has calculated it as far back as 1913. It is based upon the index average for the period from 1982 through 1984 (inclusive) which was set to 100.

    “Where do you want this killin’ done?” God says, “Out on Highway 61” – Dylan

  139. Pucker November 11, 2020 at 10:04 am #

    The Australian Perspective

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jfW_lTD8k-E

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  140. 100th Avatar November 11, 2020 at 10:18 am #

    Once you squeeze the toothpaste, you can’t put it back in.

    There’s no going back now.

    Confidence in the government, American society, the political process, the “system” that has shifted from governing us to ruling over us.

    No faith in the elected leaders, the apparatuses (military, national police, intelligence agencies) at their disposal, the 4th estate…that was annexed or perhaps ceded to the first or second hassling lost the confidence with those amongst us that can perhaps at least fog a mirror or read subject matter from beyond the anointed infotainment propagandists, and lastly, the tech (but really communication) giants that have made Chomsky’s notion of manufactured consent a humming assembly-line efficient reality.

    This only succeeds in a place, a country, not worth caring about.

    A place that cheers, cries, and dances upon learning that a senile, 47 year career political grifter with 0 accomplishments, with the aid of the corrupt DNC who pushed aside the stronger challengers in his party, assumes the throne.

    This is beyond anything a third-world autocracy could serve up.
    Precisely because the aforementioned power-holders are determined to maintain a veneer of plausibility, respectability, and certainty.

    The absurdity cuts deeply. At least for those that can still mange to think for themselves.

    And this is the cut that hurts. Seeing your “countrymen” chugging the state approved pablum.

    Are these your kin? Would you serve to protect them, and this?
    Who does? It’s not the tattooed meth addicts fighting in the streets of name-your-favorite Pac-Norwest burg.

    We are in a society that absolutely loathes one another.
    For very good reason.
    We do not want to live in the world they are ushering in.

    How did it come to this? So quickly?

    The banality of stupidity. The banality of ambivalence. The banality of powerlessness.

    Foreshadowed with George Dumbya and his yellow cake inspired illegal war.
    Followed-up by the skin-deep black totem drafted by a party that subsists on superficiality and the cult of personality.
    “He’s likable” If you oppose, you’re racist.

    The host asks, “So, is this over?”

    You bet it is.

    Endured many ribbings about studying over the summers, ages ago, to receive my philosophy minor.
    For what good? What purpose.

    To see ahead and to be prepared.

    • Pucker November 11, 2020 at 10:24 am #

      Amen….

    • Kim November 11, 2020 at 10:34 am #

      Have faith. He is the Paraclete, and he won by a landslide.

      Biden more popular than Obama?

      A potent discussion of the many impossibilities of Biden’s Michigan results.

      https://redstate.com/scotthounsell/2020/11/10/excuse-me-while-i-call-bs-in-michigan-n277705

      • Kim November 11, 2020 at 10:37 am #

        And again, Trump clearly believes he is not going anywhere.

        Today he cleaned out the top levels at the DoD.

        This has to be a message.

        https://redstate.com/streiff/2020/11/10/left-all-in-a-tizzy-as-trump-fires-top-echelon-of-department-of-defense-n278199

        • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 10:50 am #

          Nobody of any consequence is paying attention to his pathetic flailings

          He can bang on his high-chair all he wants. The end is nigh.

        • Yohannon November 11, 2020 at 11:16 am #

          He’s getting us ready for the coming Civil War. The military is gonna be on our side.

          • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 11:40 am #

            He is getting us ready for the vast relief of no longer having to deal with him.

          • SoftStarLight November 11, 2020 at 1:44 pm #

            Praise God

          • benr November 11, 2020 at 3:56 pm #

            @honey

            You are so short sighted and wrong its stunning how out of touch you are with reality and the sad part is there are millions more just like you.

        • FreddieMars November 11, 2020 at 6:03 pm #

          The efforts by the Trump campaign are looking a bit raggedy-assed, to say the least. Perhaps these lawyers are working pro bono because this Mr. Goldstein certainly appears to be phoning it in, if this transcript is indicative of how well the lawsuits are doing so far. This is from WaPo but, despite that, one surely cannot deny what the transcript illustrates:

          “When pressed whether they were alleging fraud in a case involving 592 ballots in Montgomery County, PA today, Trump’s legal team had to back down:

          THE COURT: In your petition, which is right before me — and I read it several times — you don’t claim that any electors or the Board of the County were guilty of fraud, correct? That’s correct?

          MR. GOLDSTEIN: Your Honor, accusing people of fraud is a pretty big step. And it is rare that I call somebody a liar, and I am not calling the Board of the DNC or anybody else involved in this a liar. Everybody is coming to this with good faith. The DNC is coming with good faith. We’re all just trying to get an election done. We think these were a mistake, but we think they are a fatal mistake, and these ballots ought not be counted.

          THE COURT: I understand. I am asking you a specific question, and I am looking for a specific answer. Are you claiming that there is any fraud in connection with these 592 disputed ballots?

          MR. GOLDSTEIN: To my knowledge at present, no.

          THE COURT: Are you claiming that there or improper influence upon the elector to these 592 ballots?

          MR. GOLDSTEIN: To my knowledge at present. no.

          THE COURT: Does it make a difference whether a claim of irregularity or technical noncompliance with the election code is made with or without an accompanying claim of fraud or improper influence?

          MR. GOLDSTEIN: It does not. I mean, to claim the technical defects are immaterial, which is in some sense some of the thrust of what the DNC argued, is really to misperceive what is going on in the election code. The election code is technical. These requirements are all technical. And some of them sit in that code for reasons that are a mystery for all of us. I mean, I sort of recounted for you my view of why the elector signing in his own hand is material. The DNC have their reasons for why they think it is material or immaterial. The fact of the matter is, it is in the code. The code is itself technical. Those technicalities are part and parcel of the law and a violation of the results in a ballot that can’t be counted.

          Law and Crime’s Matt Naham summed up:

          In summary, the Trump campaign appeared in court and they neither identified nor alleged any systemic fraud. The case focuses on 592 ballots that have not been counted in a county where the president is behind by 130,000 votes, and in a state where the president is behind by 46,000 votes.

          That’s not an auspicious start. Remember that there is a significant legal issue in Pennsylvania involving a statutory ballot deadline, where ballots have been segregated for later resolution. But if they’re down to 592 ballots in dispute in a county where they trail by 130,000, one has to wonder why they’re bothering — especially when Trump’s legal team isn’t even alleging fraud.

      • FreddieMars November 11, 2020 at 5:48 pm #

        “Have faith. He is the Paraclete, and he won by a landslide.

        Thanks, Kim, for that gem of wisdom. I’m SO grateful! I expect you’ll get to top billing at Parler before long.

        • Night Owl November 12, 2020 at 2:37 am #

          That is supposed to be an insult?

          LOL.

  141. wm5135 November 11, 2020 at 11:13 am #

    “Nattering nabobs of negativism.”

    The words that William Safire penned and that Spiro Agnew mouthed actually had enormous impact that has lasted until this day. They helped foster among conservatives and the folks that Nixon called ‘the silent majority‘ a growing mistrust of the mainstream media, a mistrust that grew over two generations into a form of hatred.

    It also started a dangerous spiral of events — journalists started bending backwards to kowtow to their conservative critics, beginning in the time of Reagan, an ill-advised shift that did not win back a single reader or viewer on the right. Instead, it caused a lot of folks

    on the left and even the center to wonder why the national media had stopped doing its job, stopped questioning authority. – Political Dictionary

    remember Spiro? The paragon of law and order?

    remember how that led to The Moral Majority?

    remember how that led to government shutdowns?

    remember how that led to “Morning in America”

    remember how that led to shopping being the answer to 911?

    remember how that led to “Weapons of Mass Destruction”

    remember how that led to “Hope and Change”

    remember how that led to “Make America Great Again”

    remember how you have been taking “it” in the shorts since Friday, November 22, 1963, at 12:30 p.m

    I didn’t think so.

    and while you are not remembering don’t remember Huey Long

    and although P.T. Barnum did not say it, it is still accurate.

  142. malthuss November 11, 2020 at 11:43 am #

    So why do we need “negative interest rates” Mr. Prez?

    Your Administration is spending an additional $100 Billion a month to keep the Empire afloat.

    That’s $1.2 TRILLION annually above tax revenues and accelerating.

    Tell me Mr. Prez. how is that a sign of a booming economy?

    CPI is a massive fraud.
    CPI includes TVs but not food and healthcare.
    the Fed exclude the costs of food and energy from their calculations, which are the biggest signs of price inflation.

  143. Sean Coleman November 11, 2020 at 12:02 pm #

    In Spain the Left governed for the first two years or so following the King’s self-exile and the setting up a new Republic. It was a period of policy failure (notably land re-distribution) and escalating anarchy and violence, especially directed at the clergy and Catholic institutions (including educational ones). The Right won the next election but the largest party, CEDA, was excluded from parliament and there was a lot of other dodgy constitutional work done by Azana and Alcala-Zamorra(?) (Azana is widely praised these days for his moderation.)

    The Socialists planned and partly executed a full-scale revolution in 1934 to install a Stalinist workers’ republic, which was put down, leading to sharp criticism of the government and a campaign to rehabilitate the leaders. Street violence, again sponsored by the Left, continued.

    The February 1936 elections were close but the Left regained power (which they saw as their natural right) following widespread voter fraud. The results were never made public.

    There was a failed coup by some conservative army generals which was suppressed. France was asked to join but refused. Street violence grew worse and killings were numerous, mainly ono the part of the socialists and anarchist although the Falange committed a small number in retaliation. The final straw was the assassination of the leader of the opposition by a combined unit of socialist militia and national guard (from memory). Franco and some of the military finally took action, actually to defend the Republic.

    I think this pattern is the usual way these things go. Compare too with America where the state uses BLM and Antifa violence to create chaos and where the Left again resort to electoral fraud.

    • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 1:00 pm #

      “I think this pattern is the usual way these things go. Compare too with America where the state uses BLM and Antifa violence to create chaos and where the Left again resort to electoral fraud.”

      Pretty obvious where this is parroted from.

      I guess you have no comment on the complete lack of any evidence to support your cornball theory? Didn’t think so…

      • BackRowHeckler November 11, 2020 at 2:01 pm #

        Don’t worry, Wapo, NYTs, MSNBC and CNN are digging for evidence … they have their best reporters on it ahahahahaha ahahahaha ahahahahaha!!

        • SoftStarLight November 11, 2020 at 2:11 pm #

          Nothing like a little RICO to break up those Marxist propaganda bureaus. A fair outcome would be that their assets are dissolved and delivered back to the Treasury as a part of compensating the nation for their extensive treasons and sedition.

          • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 3:24 pm #

            Ah yes, but we did succeed in removing the Orange Cancer so all is well…

          • Night Owl November 11, 2020 at 3:47 pm #

            When Trump gets on with his second term, I would be happy with prison for the heads of the hydra.

            Particularly the intel and white-shoe set. Soi bois will not do well in prison.

      • Sean Coleman November 11, 2020 at 5:50 pm #

        “Pretty obvious where this is parroted from.”

        Where do you think I got it?

        Spain: Pio Moa, ex-hardened communist Anti-Franco activist who changed his mind completely. Learn Spanish and then look him up.

        BLM and Antifa being the tools of the establishment (or as he puts it, “the Oligarchs”): Matthew Johnson plus others like Flaherty.

        This being a pattern of Leftist behaviour; I was thinking of retired Swedish professor of ethnology Karl Olov Arnstberg (if I remember it rightly; I have read a couple of his books in Swedish) talking about the coup against Allende in Chile. Onlly after writing it I thought of Marion Sigaut’s account of the French Revolution: not so much electoral fraud as terrorizing the voters (who came out in tiny numbers, a bit like a Biden rally).s

        If that is pretty obvious to you then you are a cleverer old lady than I thought. Oh I know, you think I got it from Tony Heller didn’t you? My climate change information came initialllyfrom Christopher Booker and Donna Laframboise (she wrote a fine book about the IPCC and her blog did a citizens’ audit of one of their earlier reports which showed that their claims to having solely ‘peer reviewed’ souces was a load of old codswallop).

        Back to you, Hun.

  144. John1945 November 11, 2020 at 12:26 pm #

    Google…

    Every felonious humanoid ape deserves its 15 minutes of fame.
    Every LGBT Freak of Nature,every Sexual Pervert is celebrated with a banner.

    November 11,Veterans Day.

    Not a peep.Just a blank search box.

    NYT,WaPo-same story.WaPo displays black banner “Democracy Dies in Darkness”.Maybe they are talking about CHOP in Seattle ?

    SEATTLE’S CHOP WENT OUT WITH BOTH A BANG AND A WHIMPER

    https://theintercept.com/2020/07/02/seattle-chop-zone-police/

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    • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 1:07 pm #

      Vitamins

  145. BackRowHeckler November 11, 2020 at 12:30 pm #

    Good assessment there, SC.

    The Spanish Civil War was complicated when it was being fought, and it’s a complex subject to study.

    I believe I read there were 18 different factions fighting in Spain 1936-1939, with shifting alliances, and different factions turning on each other.

    Orwell’s ‘Homage to Catalonia’ describes all that pretty good.

    Brh

    • Kim November 11, 2020 at 8:28 pm #

      It is really hard to find anything not written from the commie perspective.

  146. 100th Avatar November 11, 2020 at 12:47 pm #

    As this blog veered from the built landscape, happy motoring, peak oil, financial chicanery, government failure, etc.

    I, in a perfunctory, matter-of-fact way, always reminded readers to pay attention what the “they” always knew, but were, until very recent times, afraid to mention, at least outside of he polite crowds in Davos and northern California groves:

    POPULATION.

    The disease underlying the aforementioned symptoms.

    The great reset.

    Read this Twitter post from:

    Klaus Schwab
    @_Klaus_Schwab
    ·
    Nov 8
    Due to mandatory social restrictions, single people are finding it more difficult than ever to meet each other.

    As the global population is currently not #sustainable and birth rates need to fall, this can be viewed as a very positive outcome of the #Covid_19 pandemic ?

    This is not conspiratorial.
    It’s out in the open.
    Finally
    regrettably

    • SoftStarLight November 11, 2020 at 1:43 pm #

      Yes, and that goal is also being achieved via sterilization by vaccines and chemicals in processed foods and consumer products. And in addition to population reduction a large part of this effort is the confinement of populations into very dense urban centers with ubiquitous surveillance. That is why rural towns and regions were allowed to deteriorate to the point of un-livability at least here in the United States. This whole program you mention (and yes you are right) is the reason why countries that are dominated by the UN-esque globalist faction are implementing new lockdowns, in addition to their other efforts to reduce population.

      • benr November 11, 2020 at 4:00 pm #

        @ssl

        That is called UN Agenda 21 basically hunger games.

  147. John1945 November 11, 2020 at 1:29 pm #

    “A country where we may not agree on every detail, but we are united by the fundamental belief that every human being is of infinite worth, deserving of compassion, dignity and respect. ”
    Kamala Harris,acting President of the United States

    Meanwhile,evil ray-ciss suprema-ciss YT’s in Florida plan to destroy this infinite worth (multiplied by the number of dead BLM/Antifa SJW’s)

    Florida’s Governor DeSantis moves to allow citizens to shoot looters, rioters targeting businesses

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/florida-s-desantis-moves-to-allow-citizens-to-shoot-looters-rioters-targeting-businesses/ar-BB1aTD5M?li=BBorjTa

    Yo DeSantis man foo, i think dis busta needs to get his caps out dis club ‘afore i drop em in the street.

    • SoftStarLight November 11, 2020 at 1:51 pm #

      Prepping

      • John1945 November 11, 2020 at 2:21 pm #

        Paraphrasing the Bible’ Cain- “We are not your Brother’s keepers”
        As long as Brothers loot elsewhere we are fence sitters.
        Why should we go to Seattle to save some liberal spineless cowarldly YT?
        Based on our life experience,this saved liberal YT will be the first one to take knee before the pile of Dead Brothers and to turn us in to LE.
        But…
        Should the necessity arise,we will not need the permission of our Chif Priest to breath,live & enjoy life etc.
        And we strongly disapprove of meaningless screaming matches and other Hollywood pathetic BS like Gunfight at the OK Corral.Yeah,expose yourself,be a target please !

        • John1945 November 11, 2020 at 2:25 pm #

          Sorry- I meant “Chief”
          Hell hath no Fury like Mr…. noticing errors in the comment of uneducated Yeoman.

  148. BackRowHeckler November 11, 2020 at 2:48 pm #

    18 different factions in the Spanish Civil War, POUM, Falangists, Monarchists, Anarchists, NKVD, Luftwaffe, Italian army, Stalinists, International brigades, Portugese Auxilleries, Mexican troops, Francos Nationalists, Loyal Republicans, Basque Separatists, Trotkyites … phew, quite a list, and that’s incomplete … think of the myriad of factions in an American Civil War, not just the Rebs and Yanks, no, but everything from the blue haired transvestite battalion out Berkeley to Raging Red feminists in Brooklyn, every special interest sexual proclivity and minute ethnic identity imaginable each with its own little unit, all enemies of the human race, a few thousand armed groups, a Hobbsian struggle, all against all, with no winners, only losers.

    Brh

  149. tom clark November 11, 2020 at 2:51 pm #

    Remember, CFN, our host penned The Long Emergency in 2005. GW was president, 9-11 was a recent memory and lives were still being lost in Iraq and Afghanistan. Trump, to his credit, has kept the US out of “new” foreign wars but has started an (undeclared) civil war in his own backyard instead. This is what making America great is all about I guess.

    Meanwhile, the LE, fed by a covid accelerant (hoax, deadly disease…whatever you want to call it) is unspooling rapidly like a ball of yarn in a cat’s paws. This is what’s key here…the rapidity of it all. A noted mathematician once said, “The greatest failure of the human race is its failure to understand the exponential function.” Get used to it America…we are on the upward slope of the hockey stick…be it a pandemic, climate change, resource depletion, or failure of government, real or perceived. And that’s what the LE is all about.

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    • messianicdruid November 11, 2020 at 3:34 pm #

      He did not start it.

  150. messianicdruid November 11, 2020 at 2:55 pm #

    Honey Process said, [ when asked what s/he would accept as proof of fraud ] – “Credible evidence brought before a judge whereupon that judge decided there is sufficient reason to hear the case in a court of law.”

    What does “credible evidence” mean, to you or in your opinion to a judge ?

  151. getsome November 11, 2020 at 3:07 pm #

    James Howard: Take serious pride, (you venal sinner), in the invasion of enemy combatants trying to snipe at out Team. Unless a direct hit is obtained to one of us (via false attribution or gross misquoting), I would advise complete disengagement from said enemy. The intelligence evidenced by the majority of this Team is awe inspiring but a serious threat to enemy propaganda commissars, hence the multiple attempts to engage us, thus wasting valuable ammo better used on “villagers”, to win them over. Monitor enemy frequencies (msm), shifting through ruses to discern real courses of action. Prepare thus.
    Over twenty years ago, a group of frogman were tasked with highlighting the vulnerabilities of sitting congressional members. Paintball was used. All were killed. Now google the address – place of employment, future appearances, family members – of any person receiving media attention. Nuff Said.

    • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 3:30 pm #

      “Over twenty years ago, a group of frogman were tasked with highlighting the vulnerabilities of sitting congressional members. Paintball was used. All were killed. Now google the address – place of employment, future appearances, family members – of any person receiving media attention. Nuff Said.”

      Can’t believe I didn’t know that Congress holds its sessions in a pond.

  152. John1945 November 11, 2020 at 3:38 pm #

    Mr.Trump should not gloat but give Joe Biden a wheelchair tour of the White House when the dust settles down,whaddahell…

    I AM NOT RESISTING ARREST ! I AM JUST A PATSY !!!
    Lee Harvey Oswald during his arrest at the movie theater.

    Thats who this stupid fool Joe is-a f… patsy.

    • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 3:43 pm #

      Sure, whatever you say

      However, you will be writing tax checks to his government. And you will like it.

      • BackRowHeckler November 11, 2020 at 4:03 pm #

        How long do Botox treatments last?

        Can Joe’s face possibly melt before our very eyes, like a Reeses bar on a hot day? Then get ready for Heels Up across America.

        Brh

      • benr November 11, 2020 at 4:27 pm #

        Who writes a check to the government?
        Most Americans don’t which shows you for a foreign troll.
        Do you get paid to be a douche?

        • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 4:52 pm #

          I write a huge check to the US ‘Gubment every 3 months, you see.

          I have much money and they want some.

        • GreenAlba November 12, 2020 at 10:21 am #

          While not endorsing anything (including ‘checks’) written by Honey Process, I would point out that only Americans write checks. The rest of us write cheques. 🙂

          • GreenAlba November 12, 2020 at 10:23 am #

            That includes the Antipodeans, otherwise I would not have identified with ‘the rest of us’.

          • Q. Shtik November 12, 2020 at 4:01 pm #

            The rest of us write cheques.

            =========

            Pronounced cheh-Kyooz?

          • benr November 12, 2020 at 5:04 pm #

            @ga

            Thanks tat might have been a very astute catch.

            So that leaves two possible choices as to who the sock puppet calling itself honey process.
            Sea dolt
            or janet

          • GreenAlba November 13, 2020 at 7:35 am #

            No, Q, just the same as ‘checks’, which for us are things like the other half of balances, patterns on fabric, and many other things. Everything except promissory notes, which retain the French spelling. I’m sure you don’t get ‘pla-kyoo’ on your teeth. 🙂

            Funnily enough, it made me look into the etymology of both ‘cheque’ and ‘exchequer’ and it seems to come down to checks (of the design kind) on a particular (chequered) Mediaeval table. Who knew?

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exchequer#Origin_of_the_name

    • Night Owl November 11, 2020 at 3:52 pm #

      Joe won’t even know where he is. Best to just let him fade out.

      Kamala gets the tour.

      • John1945 November 11, 2020 at 4:19 pm #

        🙂

        =let him fade out=

        It is reserved for the Old Soldiers.
        Old Soldiers never die,they just fade away.
        Gen Douglas MacArthur

        And USS Scorpion(SSN-589) is still on Eternal Patrol.

        None of this applies to Mr.Biden.

        He will die like f… vegetable at the nursing home.Thats why I demand:

        “Mr.Trump ! Dont be vindictive – give Old Joe a wheelchair tour.It is no fun to be a Patsy,no fun at all”

  153. BackRowHeckler November 11, 2020 at 3:55 pm #

    These mandatory critical race theory, hate Whitey sessions on campus and in the workplace, what if you show up with a bio of Nathan Bedford Forrest? What can they do? I never had to go to one. During the Cultural Revolution in China the Red Guard could and did beat you to death, after making you confess your sins, bark like a dog, and crawl like a worm. About 500,000 Chinese were killed that way, 1966-1976. But what can these American Red Guards do here? Why not tell them to f##k off, or if you are forced to go — say in college in order to graduate — make snarky comments, then tell them to f##k off? In China Red Guard activists attacked people’s homes, indeed we are seeing that in Minneapolis, Portland and Seattle. But this isn’t China, and ordinary citizens might tire rather quickly of the harassment; the consequences could be deadly.

    Brh

    • John1945 November 11, 2020 at 4:25 pm #

      Nah,it is just Lefties’ wet dreams…

      Might happen somewhere in Portland or Seattle once,then this BS will quickly fizzle out.

      My Greaser buddy,not as smart as my Wop buddy but still way street-smarter than me used to say:
      “Obedezco pero no cumplo”

      • Tate November 11, 2020 at 5:35 pm #

        In a populace where half the time & energy of the workforce is spent in following the rules, this can be a huge FUBAR to the rulers. In the linked instance, the Lyft driver couldn’t take the angry woe-man Portland council-member to her destination because of her refusal to abide by covid regs over an open window.
        Never mind that she’s ugly as sin.

        https://nypost.com/2020/11/11/portland-politician-pushing-to-defund-police-called-911-over-lyft-ride/

        • John1945 November 11, 2020 at 6:44 pm #

          Jesus…Holy…F…Christ…

          Portland libs, being as always suicidal, will probably elect this National Geographic female a Mayor soon.What this city needs right now is yet another Marion Barry.Or Kwame Kilpatrick.Or David Dinkins.Advised & enticed by Al Sharpton.

          In their infinite madness they asked Mr.Trump for a $500M bailout last August.Middle finger and Mr.Trump’ “cat-swallowed-the-canary-smile” was the only right answer.

          • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 6:59 pm #

            How long have you lived in Portland?

          • Kim November 11, 2020 at 8:22 pm #

            They should start a ‘Gibs for Gibbons” movement.

        • Yohannon November 11, 2020 at 7:43 pm #

          Black Medusa, her hair a mess of snakes

      • BackRowHeckler November 11, 2020 at 5:42 pm #

        Yes, she’s a piece of work, the brain trust behind Portlands ‘defund the police’ scheme.

        In Chi last Saturday, Sunday and Monday, 51 people shot. 51 people, and it’s not even summer.

        • FreddieMars November 11, 2020 at 6:14 pm #

          BRH – “51 people”.

          Thanks for not calling them ‘humanoid apes’ and at least appearing to give the impression you give a shit.

          • Tate November 11, 2020 at 6:52 pm #

            Thank God the South Africans dismantled all their nuclear arms before they turned over the reins of government to the “Rainbow Nation.”

  154. beantownbill. November 11, 2020 at 5:21 pm #

    @messianicdruid:

    Re your question yesterday about casinos and poker:

    Foxwoods casino had a large poker area. I stopped playing there because poker was too slow a game for me compared to craps. The poker area hosted many tournaments. I haven’t gone to Foxwoods since the end of February, so I don’t know if they are still playing poker there. As a guess, I’d say yes. I’ve also played in all-night poker games in Las Vegas, but it’s been a while since I’ve gone there.

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    • BackRowHeckler November 11, 2020 at 5:49 pm #

      Foxwoods announced last week they will be reserving the casino for age 55 and over at certain times, not sure of the details. It was news for a few days. I think it’s a good plan trying to get more people out, specially seniors who have been isolated for so long.

      • messianicdruid November 11, 2020 at 6:59 pm #

        I went to the Osage Casino in Skiatook about a year ago and asked the floor attendant for the location of the poker room. She said, “there’s no money in it”. I was shocked at her candor. I think they are shooting themselves in the foot because most of the time the men play poker and their wives play slots.

        6 feet [ and no money in it ] killed em all around here.

  155. wm5135 November 11, 2020 at 5:52 pm #

    What is the acronym for hope and change?

    MAGA

    • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 6:51 pm #

      Make America Green Again

      Most assuredly agree with you!

    • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 7:10 pm #

      TRUMP!

      Trash Republic Under My Presidency!

      • messianicdruid November 11, 2020 at 8:29 pm #

        I thought you said this was a Democracy.

        MAFA – John 8:32

        • benr November 12, 2020 at 9:16 am #

          Look at that something did get through the thick skull and brainwashing!
          His handlers will be angry and deduct a Nickle from his days wages fomenting lies and nonsense here.
          Poor little sock puppet.
          Working so hard with so little material cargill is dense as tungsten and as worthless as salt water to a thirsty human.

  156. elysianfield November 11, 2020 at 6:14 pm #

    Well, ladies and germs;

    MURDER HORNETS!

    You remember the Murder Hornets…the long prophesied “locusts” mentioned in Revelations? Well, the bug scientists are now telling us that we have yet to see the end of the scourge. They suggest that their fecundity is only exceeded by their hostility…or something. Apparently there were, in the nest tracked and subsequently destroyed by the scientist Einsatsgruppen, more queens than can be seen on an episode of Rue Paul’s Drag Race….somewhere in the neighborhood of 200 queens.

    Every god damned one of them a voting Democrat, I would expect.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54910098

  157. FreddieMars November 11, 2020 at 6:28 pm #

    Mr. Kunstler

    I know you don’t do requests, but I still hope to see your take on the lawsuits & their outcomes to date next post, even only in passing.

    The likes of Night Owl has claimed that there is indisputable evidence of the purported ballot fraud (some kind of secret watermark verification on mail-in ballots, and there’s that guy Steve Pieczenick talking about a blockchain-based tracking system).

    I’d appreciate knowing more about this stuff and when it’s going to be released – or more accurately, unleashed – through the legal process, so that their fevered dreams of a second term for Mr. Trump can be realized. You’re a trusted source.

    • Kim November 11, 2020 at 8:17 pm #

      @ FreddieMars

      As usual, a day late and some number of brain cells short.

      Read above and you will see that I – you know that I am a trusted source – pointed out days ago that the watermark story was a red herring.

      So please adjust your expectations.

      For those who like a deus ex machina ending to a story, it is more likely that we will see low level insiders from Dominion spewing up their guts before this is all over.

      • Night Owl November 12, 2020 at 2:40 am #

        I said it was said, nothing more. And it has still not been disproven.

        Regardless, the evidence of fraud is so overwhelming, it really doesn’t matter.

        Trump has already won.

    • Kim November 11, 2020 at 9:28 pm #

      Does anyone, anywhere, believe that computers experience “glitches”?

      We all know, of course, that what comes out of computer just reflects what went in.

      There are no “glitches”.

      https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/11/07/key-swing-states-were-utilizing-a-software-company-at-the-center-for-ballot-glitc-n2579664

      The Michigan State Republican Party on Friday revealed that a software glitch caused 6,000 Republican ballots to be counted toward Democrat’s totals. The issue was eventually corrected when officials in Antrim County hand-counted the ballots, which caused their county to flip to President Donald Trump. According to the Michigan Republican Party Chairwoman, 48 of the state’s 83 counties use the same software from Dominion Voting Systems.

      There are now issues arising in Georgia in Spalding and Morgan Counties after it was revealed that a software update Monday night caused voting machines to crash on Election Day.

      Spalding County Board of Elections Supervisor Marcia Ridley told POLITICO Dominion Voting Systems performed an update on machines. KnowInk, which makes electronic poll books to sign voters, also created an update. Both are something that is out of the norm, Ridley said.

      “That is something that they don’t ever do. I’ve never seen them update anything the day before the election,” Ridley explained, saying she had no idea what was in the update.

    • Kim November 11, 2020 at 9:39 pm #

      From: Freddie Mars

      Attention: Kim

      I have heard (not doubt baseless) accusations recently that the widely used computer voting machines managed by the Dominion corporation – a company controlled by interests and asociates of the Clintons, along with Soros, Nancy Pelosi and Dianne Feinstein – has been implicated in a certain amount of hugger-mugger, skullduggery, sly doings, malfeasance and electoral back door action.

      While I have every confidence in the US government and even more confidence in the Clintons (the Saints Joan and Sebastian of American politics) I’d appreciate knowing more about this stuff and when it’s going to be released.

      P.S. I am very, very sincere in asking this. Really.

      From: Kim

      To: FreddieMars

      Fuck off, you disingenuous clown.

      Yours. Sincerely.

  158. Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 6:50 pm #

    The ranks of those who believe that we will have to endure another 400 year term of the Great Orange Monster and dwindling fast.

    Only the nutcase fringe now believes this – and they fail to emit an audible sound.

    • malthuss November 11, 2020 at 6:57 pm #

      400

  159. Soul Forensics November 11, 2020 at 7:14 pm #

    Richard Baris at peoples_pundit has been banned on twitter for fearless truth-telling. Baris predicted with stunning accuracy the macro- and micro-results from this (and last) federal election, as well as acing what was happening and was going to happen as votes rolled in during the election. He also exposed the entire cynical racket of DNC-controlled pollsterdom in increasingly lacerating posts on twitter (and youtube, don’t know if he’s been banned there yet).

    Dorsey and Zuckerberg are shitting their pants as the screws tighten, and as the light is turned on. Cockroaches!

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  160. Yohannon November 11, 2020 at 7:45 pm #

    Trump wins Alaska. Re-count for Georgia. The tide is turning.

    • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 7:51 pm #

      Nothing is turning. Alaska was a known quantity and the recount will change the result in Georgia

      Is this what you are hanging your hat on? Pretty weak tea…

      Jan 20 2021 – Ahhhhhhhh……

      • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 7:51 pm #

        will NOT change the result in Georgia, rather…

        • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 11, 2020 at 8:36 pm #

          Those Freudian slips can be a real pain…

          • Night Owl November 12, 2020 at 2:43 am #

            He is very emotional right now.

            As Trump has won.

  161. Yohannon November 11, 2020 at 7:46 pm #

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/naked-sculpture-mary-wollstonecraft-angers-feminists-insulting-204048679.html

    We’re beating them back. Feminist icon portrayed as a tiny (size of yo head) and naked, a silly cupid. Only twenty lesbian bars left in America….

    • Tate November 11, 2020 at 9:02 pm #

      She wrote Frankenstein. Maybe that’s what the sculptoress was trying to get at, Bride of Frankenstein.

      • GreenAlba November 12, 2020 at 5:20 am #

        Yeah, and William Wallace wrote ‘King Lear’.

        Oops.

        The sculpture is ridiculous, with not a few ‘feminists’ saying so.

        • Tate November 12, 2020 at 3:29 pm #

          All hail the conquering schoolmarm!
          The conquering Green Ms. Grundy!

          Okay it was her daughter who wrote Frankenstein.

          The sculpturess probably thought it was her daughter, thus the nod to the Bride motif.

          • GreenAlba November 13, 2020 at 6:42 am #

            Such bitterness, Tate, when you had the option of humour.

            Your loss in life only, Tate.

          • GreenAlba November 13, 2020 at 7:47 am #

            If I’d pointed it out with schoolmarm intentions I’d have corrected both your attempts at ‘sculptress’. But I ignored them, until you came back with your embittered sarcasm. 🙂

  162. Yohannon November 11, 2020 at 7:49 pm #

    Russia’s vaccine is the best, 92% efficacy, without the need of extreme cold for preservation. The news reader smirked as he said that it would never be approved in the United States.

  163. JCalvertNUK November 11, 2020 at 7:55 pm #

    Question: Did these vote-counting anomalies only occur in swing states?
    Or did they occur randomly in all states?
    If they only occurred in swing states, then that is very suspicious.

    • Kim November 11, 2020 at 10:46 pm #

      @ JCalvertNUK

      Cast an eye over the article in the link below. In particular counties, Biden was getting results that bettered Obama’s 2012 resulst by 50-60%.

      But in neighboring counties, everything was typical.

      This happened wherever they needed it to happen.

      The fraud could not be more obvious.

      https://redstate.com/scotthounsell/2020/11/05/excuse-me-while-i-call-bs-n275572

  164. John1945 November 11, 2020 at 8:17 pm #

    Gentlemen;

    It is a sad,very sad world we live in,that’s why a good laugh once in a while might be helpful.

    Every uneducated Yeoman knew all along that the insurance will not pay for damages caused by BLM/Antifa rionts,insurance companies being what they are,in the US or elsewhere.

    Now,after much soul-searching, and in those rare once-a-year lucid moments, NYT plaintively admits:

    “Businesses Trying to Rebound After Unrest Face a Challenge: Not Enough Insurance”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/09/business/small-business-insurance-unrest-kenosha.html

    That is the reason why Dems behave like rabid dogs,foaming at the mouth,committing crime after crime after crime,stopping at nothing to steal this election.

    Because with Mr.Trump in White House there will be no bailouts for those Dem-run Sodoms and Gomorrahs.

    Also if you prefer SITREPS from the trenches you may check this Second City Cop blog

    http://secondcitycop.blogspot.com/

    For those who spell “programme” and use words like “boffin” – the “Groot” is a cartoon character-thats how CPD cops refer to Mayor Lori Lightfoot,an Ugly Bull Dyke with bulging eyes.

    DEMS,F… YA,WE ARE NOT YOUR BROTHER’S KEEPERS 🙂

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  165. KappaJoe November 11, 2020 at 8:46 pm #

    Voting analysis from MIT PhD of all the precincts in Michigan’s four largest counties:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztu5Y5obWPk

    The upshot is, the more a precinct tends to vote Republican, the less likely they were to vote Trump.

  166. tom clark November 11, 2020 at 9:07 pm #

    CFN…I’d be careful about what you post on this site.

    JHK is marshalling all your comments for his next book: “The Screwing of America”.

    It’s bound to be a humdinger.

    G’nite Kim.

    • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 10:18 pm #

      Sociologists, historians, political scientists and various eggheads and know-it-alls are actually thrilled with the low comedy we knew as the trump administration. They will be busy for years trying to ferret out why America with all its supposed advantages, fell into such a state of self-contempt that it would insert a yowling mediocrity in the White House…

      …then , after the worst leadership in our history, almost allow this dangerous boob an encore – to be followed by a raging display of adolescent tantrum by the losing side.

      Talk about fodder.

      • Yohannon November 11, 2020 at 11:28 pm #

        Have you heard about the black smokers club? Trumpists who drive with diesel engines, creating as much smoke as possible.

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 12, 2020 at 9:58 am #

        Raging display of adolescent tantrum by the losing side? Where? Here? At your local 7-11? In your office (assuming you actual do retain employment of some kind as you claim? In your old-school father-in-law’s home?

        Certainly no raging display of adolescent, baseless dismissiveness and smug comments and vitriol coming from the tolerant folks on the current “winning” side of this presidential election. I believe you may be familiar with what I’m talking about. About the last 50 of your comments are a shining example of how tolerant, un-toddlerlike and non-adolescent people can be.

        Not to mention there certainly weren’t four entire years of adolescent tantrums by the previous “losing” side (have you looked at Twitter in the last four years – very high brow, indeed)…culminating in literally looting, burning and threatening innocent neighborhoods, rolling in dumpsters and lighting them on fire in the streets underneath trees that extend to family homes where actual people with children, who have nothing to do with the shameless public display of immaturity, are just trying to live, sleep, work and raise their families.. None of that at all.

        You wanna talk about fodder. Hooo-leee-shit. See you with your new non-banned moniker tomorrow!

  167. KesaAnna November 11, 2020 at 9:17 pm #

    ” Don’t mess with Kesa she will shred your ass. ”

    I actually — in a round – about , circuitous , back – handed way — like the guy.

    He’s blatant.

    Do you get the feeling he respects you ?

    Do you get the impression he gives a shit about your rights ?

    Do you suppose he paces the floor late into the night agonizing over your welfare ?

    I get the impression this is not one of those cases where I have to talk until I’m blue in the face , or where I have to type until my hands ache , and all in shear futility.

    Far worse , and viscerally repugnant to me personally , are those types who smile , and say , ” Please ” , and , ” Thank you ” , pat you on the back , and say , ” Have a nice day ” ,

    and on that account , apparently , it will be ignored even past doomsday that they are slitting your throat , that their whole policy is a gun pointed at you.

    Of course this guy likewise substitutes the word “love ” for hate , ” respect ” for utter contempt , ” Free will ” and ” meritocracy” for a comprehensive and dogged policy of closing off and limiting your options .

    And , of course , and not least , skipping lightly over the fact that ” the rule of law ” is NOT an opinion. It is NOT advice , not a suggestion , not a mothers love , not the milk of human kindness.

    The law is a man with a gun pointing it at you and saying , ” You will do this or that , and if you don’t , we are going to fuck you up. ”

    Granted , that is what the law has always been , and the pretense has always existed that the reality was prettier or more elegant than a brute exercise of force.

    But ;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLctAw4JZXE

    If you bother to watch the video , maybe you will get some idea of why the power of propaganda , of shear abstract fantasy , was once a great deal more limited ?

    Why the exercise of force was limited ?

    As far as the guy with the gun is concerned , here’s another video ;

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KTS8PQ06Qo

    Imagine trying to rob the 7 – Eleven with one of those things.

    Or , more to the point , perhaps you will get some idea of why , ” Get tough on crime ” , or , ” Zero – tolerance policy ” was perhaps easier said , than done ?

    Anyway , right – wingers , themselves , also try to make out that the law is like a Girl Scout meeting or something .

    But then , your typical right – winger is marinated up to the hat – band in Leftist totalitarian thought , premises , worldview , without even realizing it.

    Right – wingers habitually lose debates, not because they are stupid , but because their opponents , or seeming opponents , wrote the rules of the game to begin with.

    You don’t need psychic powers to predict how that is going to play out.

    Anyway , as I said previously , it seems to me that with this guy the euphemisms , the smoke and mirrors , are rather transparent and obvious .

    And that seems rather like a — sort of — VIRTUE to me.

    I can’t fathom then , on that account , why he keeps getting banned , assuming it is the same guy.

    maybe it is because of that very blatant – ness ?

    I do get the impression that Leftists and Right – wingers both typically do not really like what they see reflected in the mirror ?

    But now I’m playing amateur shrink , and it seems to me that applied psychology is about as reliable as Tarot cards.

  168. messianicdruid November 11, 2020 at 9:59 pm #

    Moleman said, “This doesn’t work very good for your argument…”

    Thanks for the Rueters link. I stand corrected .

    What do you think of this one?

    https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-11-11-election-data-analyzed-votes-switched-biden-software.html

  169. Soul Forensics November 11, 2020 at 10:24 pm #

    Fed agent Russell Strasser, who interrogated and coerced the USPS whistleblower on the now-viral two hour recording, ran an anti-Trump twitter burner account, which, just after Project Veritas spilled the beans three hours ago, was “deleted by user/accnt holder”.

    But nothing to see here, from the news crews who only put out whiny ‘think’ pieces on “why doesn’t Orange Man Bad just concede gracefully already!?”

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    • Honey Process November 11, 2020 at 10:47 pm #

      The MSM has abandoned those pieces. You see, we all realize that the Orange Horror needs to cry himself out (while 1500 died today of Covid – the virus that is “fading away” and that we have “rounded the corner” on)

      Then he’ll come waddling out of his bunker with brand new Pampers and let us all know that he has grown up and is all forgiven?

    • Kim November 11, 2020 at 10:51 pm #

      “Russell Strasser”

      Good bad-guy name. Lots of sibilance. Surname is a two syllable verb.

      Makes me think of “Rat Strangler”.

      If he has a badly scarred face, he’s perfect.

  170. Kim November 11, 2020 at 11:01 pm #

    Just so we all know where we stand, “Reason” magazine is still claiming that the heretic Richard Hopkins has recanted.

    Except he ain’t done no such thing and 24 hours after he posted a video clearly denying it, they know it.

    You see, FreddieMars, that’s an example of disingenuity.

  171. Kim November 11, 2020 at 11:14 pm #

    Notice that Boris Johnson used the globalist slogan “Build Back Better” in his congratulation of Biden.

    Language released months ago by the UN.

    It means huge waves of money for globalist corps.
    Nothing for main street.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/BorisJohnson/status/1326206254293913600

    • Q. Shtik November 11, 2020 at 11:25 pm #

      “Build Back Better” – Kim

      ==========

      Has to be one of the worst slogans ever. It conjures up nothing specific over the next 4 years.

      • benr November 12, 2020 at 9:35 am #

        Agreed it sounds like something a man with dementia would come up with.

        It is the slogan of tearing everything down and building it “green” or not at all.

        What these green imbeciles don’t understand the act of destroying buildings is toxic they are full of materials that when airborne cause cancer and other lung issues.
        What will they do with the torn down nor garbage another land fill or 10,000 landfills?

        Where will all the materials come from will they chop down a billion more trees and make the sand disappear from 1,000’s of beaches?
        The rate of sand removal from the worlds oceans is also causing serious issues. If only the desert sand was equal to the task but alas it is not that sand is rounder and does not hold structure as well.

        https://oceanfdn.org/disappearing-beaches-what-can-be-done-about-global-sand-shortages/

  172. Kim November 11, 2020 at 11:23 pm #

    Twitter has suspended Sarah Hucklebee.

    She pointed out some statistical unlikelihoods in the Biden vote.

    Thoughtcrime.

    • Q. Shtik November 11, 2020 at 11:28 pm #

      suspended Sarah Hucklebee. – Kim

      =========

      Huckabee

  173. Kim November 12, 2020 at 12:01 am #

    At the interview in this link

    https://therightscoop.com/just-in-rudy-giuliani-suggests-dominion-whistleblowers-coming-forward/

    Of course we all know that eyewitnesses and their affadavits are not evidence, but here is a rather compelling witness.

    The woman being interviewed here was an IT contractor for Dominion at a counting station in Detroit. She is a very persuasive witness, as I am sure you will agree if you watch the video. She is not reading off a script. She is not exaggerating or embellishing. She is telling the truth.

    She testfies to seeing the Dominion scanning machines – forty of them – repeatedly being used to scan the same batch of ballots (50 per batch) ten times over.

    She says she saw thousands of blank ballots being filled out with false signatures.

    She says all of the fraud went in the direction of Biden.

    Present at this process was one of the owners and patent holders, and VP, of Dominion, Nik Ikonmakis, to whom she reported these breaches, ony to have her complaints ignored.

    #believeher

    She called the FBI the next day but was cut off. She then called again and her details were taken but has not been contacted by the FBI since.

    There are lots of details in this interview.

    All we need now is some evidence.

    • Soul Forensics November 12, 2020 at 12:47 am #

      I laugh at the “show me the evidence” crowd. That’s all they got? Sworn affadavits are considered evidence in a court of law. If they prove false, the one signing the affadavit can be sent to prison, in Michigan, for up to 15 years. Who in their cotton-pickin’ mind (oops! politically incorrect adjectival outburst!) would risk 15 years as one patriot in a sea of powerful, corrupt Kafkaesque shadowrats who are so power-mad they blitzed the mostly-naive Republicans with a tsunami of tricks that would make Stalin blush? In addition, affadavits have to be proven every step of the way. Think about not only this woman’s stress during cross-examination, but about what would/will happen to her once outside the claustrophic antagonism. Fresh air! For a day, until the MSM aligns, the doxxing starts, the termination from work without pay (as has already happened with Hopkins), and the continuing harassment of her long into the furure should the demons get away with their evil by Jan 20.

      • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 7:42 am #

        How entertaining!

        You know – all of this might have been avoid had your hero not been the worst president of all time. Ever consider that? Or is this stunning entitlement a foregone conclusion.

        The NYT is basically ignoring trump and focusing properly on the incoming Biden show. The horrid trump has become a national disgrace (once again) and ths stone in our shoe will soon be gone.

        • benr November 12, 2020 at 9:41 am #

          Keep posting your drivel it will be all the better to poke fun at you when your demented hero falls down and can’t get back up.

          Do you think Biden has a political life alert bracelet when the courts through his fraudulent racked coronation out?

          Four more years of maga and people like you having their heads explode.
          I just hope you don’t own a dog it will surely be kicked in your fits of turret rage.

      • benr November 12, 2020 at 9:39 am #

        Whats even worse the US Postal service employee who outed the fraud with date stamping was put on leave without pay.
        Enter in patriots trying to help the man through the hard times so they start a go fund me page and Bam the go fund me page was denied by go fund me.

        Flummoxed at every turn by big tech shenanigan’s!
        The criminal enterprise set into motion to get the weekend at bernies candidate across the line is mind boggling.

        • Rupert November 12, 2020 at 10:20 am #

          It’s a color rev attempt, they’re pulling out all the stops. That includes intimidating would-be whistle blowers and anyone on the ground who refuses to play ball.

    • elysianfield November 12, 2020 at 5:47 pm #

      Kim,
      Goddamnit! You KNOW that just because it happened doesn’t mean it’s true…or rise to the level of viable evidence.

      It didn’t happen until the MSM says it happened….

  174. SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 3:12 am #

    The accumulating affidavits and legal actions in the swing states are apparently just appetizers. POTUS tweet tonight indicates that Dominion was indeed caught switching votes. It makes a lot of sense given that he said last Friday that he won reelection in the count of legal votes.

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  175. SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 3:20 am #

    Joe did say that he and Barsck have the biggest voter fraud organiztion going in the history of the country. Joe’s current chief of staff designate Ron Klaine said back in 2014 that US elections are rigged.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/wp-content/uploads/Ron-Klain-Elections-Are-Rigged-Twitter-07142014-270×600.jpg

    • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 3:22 am #

      Barack not Barsck..or Barf

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 12, 2020 at 10:17 am #

        “Half-man, half-dog. I’m my own best friend!”

        • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 1:24 pm #

          LOL where is that from?

          • beantownbill. November 12, 2020 at 1:50 pm #

            From the movie Spaceballs.

  176. Yohannon November 12, 2020 at 4:00 am #

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/lot-potential-danger-trump-packing-023956799.html

    Trump packs the military leadership with patriots. Globalist traitors alarmed. He should have done this four years ago, but hey, this is more exciting. The Lion in Winter is emerging. He’s calling their bluff. You want America? You’re gonna have to fight for it. How bad do you want it? That bad?

    • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 7:34 am #

      Patriots?

      More like yes-men and assorted nitwits. So, the fantasy du jour is the National Toddler suddenly rising up and forcing the non-issuei in some faux-gallant half-assed coup attempt?

      Is that what gets you through your oatmeal this morning?

      • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 9:15 am #

        A nitwit put rat poo in your oatmeal this morning and you happily ate it. You might want to overhaul your process, honey lol. 😉

    • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 9:24 am #

      Excellent news! There was also a high level guy in the DOJ who resigned after Barr issued that memo on launching investigations into the voting irregularities and fraud claims I believe yesterday or the day before. Pilger is his name. He was the top elections crime guy at the DOJ. The top elections guy at DOJ doesn’t want to investigate fraud. Strange huh!

      • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 9:36 am #

        Anyone who takes up the cause of the Orange Horror at this point risks looking like a total horse’s ass. People who are building careers do not wish to squander their reputations on lost causes.

        • benr November 12, 2020 at 9:43 am #

          Or Trump is going to win again and your dreams will be quashed but hey four more years of impotent raging and posting lies and disinformation are ahead for you.

        • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 10:02 am #

          Your position is really odd. So you say there is no voter fraud at all. Ok, well then why are people not wanting to look into it? It would seem that they would be happy to investigate and prove that Orange man and his minions are just crazy. Yet they completely ignore the whole matter. You may think that ignoring is a great strategy. But to every day people that actually creates suspicion. If there is no there there than lets look at all the facts and be allowed to come to that conclusion. What are ya’ll hiding?

          • benr November 12, 2020 at 10:13 am #

            He has no position but to troll that’s it even this dunce does not believe the drivel he posts.

          • Rupert November 12, 2020 at 10:24 am #

            Just so. If there is no concern for fraud, why stop a proper investigation?

            Even in a ‘cleaner’ year than this we need a full audit of urban machines anyhow. I’d venture there is some standard nonsense happening every cycle and ridding ourselves of it would be beneficial to the body politic.

            Biden’s chief of staff pick agrees, by the way, per a tweet from 2014 where he said fraud is common. Opps?

        • GreenAlba November 12, 2020 at 10:50 am #

          “Anyone who takes up the cause of the Orange Horror at this point risks looking like a total horse’s ass.”

          I don’t consider backing a proper audit to be taking up the cause of the orange horror, but merely standing up for honesty and transparency. I don’t even like the guy but I’ve always said there’s only one way he should be unseated and that’s by an honest and transparent election.

          If there was significant skulduggery but not enough to remove Biden, it’s still important to do the audit, either to restore confidence in the system or to trigger a necessary overhaul of electoral practices.

          “People who are building careers do not wish to squander their reputations on lost causes.”

          That sentiment says nothing moral, but merely expedient. Which is part of the problem.

          • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 1:22 pm #

            Thank you Alba. I appreciate your fair minded approach to the matter and wish our Democrats here would adopt the same approach. Otherwise it gives off a suspicion that there is funny business even if the reality would be that there isn’t. So an open and transparent recount / audit would help the whole country move forward.

          • GreenAlba November 12, 2020 at 1:53 pm #

            You’re welcome, SSL.

  177. PeteAtomic November 12, 2020 at 8:42 am #

    the Epoch Times has a good rundown of the current state of the election here:
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/

    On its front page you can click on the 6 states which lawsuits & recounts are occurring.

    As Epoch Times reports, the current electoral count is Trump 232, Biden 227.

    I wonder what will happen if Trump is able to flip a couple states and wins the election?

    Will the State Media ignore the electoral college and continue to running with story that Biden has won?

    Was the recent shakeup of higher echelon military leaders by Trump a move to counter a coup in the case that Trump does win the electoral college?

    • City_of_76 November 12, 2020 at 9:23 am #

      Here’s a dose of clear-eyed reality for you Trumpaholics, in a 30-minute discussion between Josh Barro and Ken White:

      https://www.kcrw.com/news/shows/lrc-presents-all-the-presidents-lawyers/the-president-and-the-president-elect

      “A few interesting things have happened in the past two weeks — first of all, Joe Biden is the president-elect with narrow but clear leads in states that put him over 300 electoral votes. President Trump is displeased about this. He says he really won the election and he is engaging in a legal and PR strategy to contest those results. Most of the individual lawsuits, though, are not very plausible, and as Democrats keep pointing out, they don’t contest a number of votes that would actually change the election outcome. So what is President Trump’s objective here? Can his lawyers help him achieve those objectives? Is Attorney General Bill Barr and the DOJ assisting in a meaningful way?

      Plus: is Joe Biden entitled to cooperation with the transition, and should he sue the Government Services Administration to force them to treat him like the president-elect? And a really big question: can President Trump pardon his associates and even himself before he leaves office?”

      • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 9:33 am #

        Your whole argument is false from the outset because Joe Biden is not the President Elect at all beyond his media sycophants pronunciations. No election results have been certified so nothing is official. It’s too bad the city of 76 has become a third world sewage pit and a real center of voter fraud. So what do you say about the civil rights violations that took place in Philly for one when Republican observers were forcibly prevented from observing the vote count? If Joe is so convinced he won handily why isn’t he interested in having recounts and auditing the vote so that all voters feel the election was fair? Isn’t that the “presidential” thing to do? Or is this more about shoving your version of reality down people’s throats as you guys are prone to do every day of the week and every minute of the day?

        • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 9:41 am #

          The Pa. margin in 2016 was almost identical to this year’s result. Did Hillary wait until the results were certified to accept the election result? No.

          Why? – because she is an adult and respects the democratic traditions of the country. Of course trump respects nothing because he is an empty shell of a human being – a sad relic who will slither away and not be heard from ever gain.

          • benr November 12, 2020 at 9:46 am #

            ROTFLOL

            Even you as stupid is you appear to be have to know Trump will be heard from till the day he is put in the ground.
            It’s who he is.

          • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 9:56 am #

            Actually the problem for Hillary was that they did not employ enough vote fraud to overcome Trump’s margins in 2016. There was still alot of fraud in that election though. They never at all expected him to win and at that time he was more of an unknown. She knew it would be a big uphill battle in court and that the Dems would lose so they decided to save their money and fund the Russia hoax and the collusion narrative and the resistance which they deployed for the past four years in a very aggressive manner. However, they were prepared to overcome any margin this go around as they were definitely not going to let Trump win again. But the problem is that this time the fraud is too big because Trump won by so much.

          • Q. Shtik November 12, 2020 at 3:52 pm #

            Did Hillary wait until the results were certified to accept the election result? No. – Honey P

            ===========

            That’s true. She only waited one day to get her emotions and tears under control and then she conceded. This time around she advised Biden not to concede under any circumstances. Trump probably figures Hillary is pretty smart so he is taking her advice. That’s my best guess.

        • Yohannon November 12, 2020 at 12:13 pm #

          Yes, Black poll workers were key in many urban areas in perpetrating this fraud.

          The Diebold machines were hated by Conservatives but they were never able to get them investigated. The Democrats replaced them with Dominion machines, no doubt more effective for cheating and/or hiding it.

          • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 1:18 pm #

            Yeah I saw those videos from Detroit and Philly were it was clear that the Black poll workers were like militants ensuring that the vote count was secret. BLM activists have said that they worked really hard for the current alleged outcome so that says a lot since they are a criminal organization. They were going to be expecting a lot from a Biden/Harris administration and I am sure they would have been given prominent roles.

          • Kim November 13, 2020 at 2:13 am #

            But the grungy left is being stiffed.

            The proposed Biden staff includes nobody with blue hair and noserings, one tranny to humilate and demoralize the military (to satisfy China) and more than 40 lobbyists for big business.

            Surprise, useful idiots!

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 12, 2020 at 10:36 am #

        “Plus: is Joe Biden entitled to cooperation with the transition, and should he sue the Government Services Administration to force them to treat him like the president-elect?” – City of 76

        Entitled to cooperation? When it’s certified, yes. As for the second question, he is not the president-elect until (see previous sentence). Anyone can say they’re the president-elect. Being one is an official matter.

        “And a really big question: can President Trump pardon his associates and even himself before he leaves office?””

        Sure, at least his associates. He’s the president. But what would he be pardoning them for exactly?

  178. Pucker November 12, 2020 at 9:29 am #

    Does anybody have the links to the Wisconsin, Michigan, Arizona Complaints filed by the Trump campaign and the RNC challenging the recent votes in those states? These are public documents. It looks very suspicious and authoritarian that the Complaints are not easily and readily accessible to the public online given that this is an issue of monumental import to the public.

    I’ve been temporarily banned from YouTube for posting the link to Trump’s Pennsylvania Complaint in the comments section of a news report that was gaslighting everyone saying that the complaints are all “baseless”, “frivolous”, and “without evidence.” Of course, what they don’t tell you is that in the court process at the Complaint stage the court is only considering with the Plaintiff has a legal claim based upon the facts as alleged in the Complaint. The Plaintiff only introduces evidence at a later stage. The Plaintiff never introduces the evidence in the Complaint stage. More gaslighting by the MSM.

    • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 9:50 am #

      Well we are in the midst of a coup attempt right now so the tech companies are in open collusion to prevent information from getting out other than what they want you to see. You will probably have to go to the Trump campaign directly. I did a search too just to check just now and clearly the censorship is in full force and of course all that comes up are main stream outlets parroting the same basic talking points provided to them by the Democrat Party and the “Office of the President-Elect”. Btw that whole “Office of the President-Elect” is a total fabrication and is a ploy you would see in a country like Venezuela or Sudan. Totally pathetic and sad.

    • benr November 12, 2020 at 9:52 am #

      Again big tech giving the weekend at bernies candidate a nudge towards the finish line.

    • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 10:00 am #

      The MSM is properly ignoring the irrelevant lame-duck trump. He is a national embarrassment and it would not be the worst thing if he barricaded himself in the bunker until Jan 20th when he is properly removed by US Marshalls.

      145,000 new Covid cases 1450 dead.

      Well done trump! Attaboy Pence! a team for the ages,

      • BackRowHeckler November 12, 2020 at 10:04 am #

        Not too worry, if Biden assumes office in January there won’t be anymore new Covid cases, and nobody will die from anything, anywhere. A new Golden Age of everlasting life will be upon us.

        Brh

        • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 10:06 am #

          No serious person thinks that of course.

          However, there will be strong science-based leadership – not a huge headwind caused by a petulant man-child who only listens to the ossified oatmeal between his ears.

          • Rupert November 12, 2020 at 10:26 am #

            I don’t worship men in lab coats, nor should you.

      • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 10:06 am #

        Are you naturally happy to be a one hit wonder or are you paid to be a one hit wonder?

        • benr November 12, 2020 at 10:11 am #

          The sock puppet does seem to have a canned set of responses.

          • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 1:14 pm #

            Almost like how the media gets their daily talking points at 4 AM or whatever and they all parrot them dutifully during the rest of the day’s news cycle huh

      • Sean Coleman November 12, 2020 at 11:09 am #

        Honey “145,000 new Covid cases 1450 dead.”

        Stefano Scoglio, a Nobel Prize nominee for medicine says this about the virus,

        “So. Hasnt’ been isolated. Is not pathogenic. What are we talking about? We are talking about something, it’s not there.”

        2.28.17 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sErsl3DAqwo&t=3696s

        Even you are more real than SARSCovid2.

  179. messianicdruid November 12, 2020 at 10:08 am #

    Another slip of the tounge:

    https://summit.news/2020/11/11/de-blasios-daughter-in-verbal-slip-up-claims-biden-was-able-to-steal-election/

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    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 12, 2020 at 10:44 am #

      Hey now, she’s a good girl. Just misunderstood…

  180. Pucker November 12, 2020 at 10:13 am #

    [Balding, White middle-aged Bloke with just his white underwear Fruit of the Loon briefs on]

    “Cough, Cough, Cough….The gaslighting….Cough, Cough….the fumes…I can’t breathe…Cough, Cough…Where’s the Wuhan bat?! Where’s the bat?!”

    • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 1:12 pm #

      LOL

  181. Pucker November 12, 2020 at 10:34 am #

    Another insidious outcome of this election may perhaps be that they’re setting us up for a new legal standard that would basically institutionalize election fraud by requiring all absentee ballots to be presumed legitimate unless the contesting party can prove that the specific absentee ballot in question is fraudulent? This standard is basically the opposite of the proper legal standard that an absentee ballot is only presumed legally valid AFTER it is confirmed that the person submitting the absentee ballot duly performed all proper procedures in completing and submitting the absentee ballot AND the official(s) processing the absentee ballot duly undertook everything that he/she was supposed to do to ensure that the absentee ballot is question is legitimate. Unless these requirements are satisfied, the absentee ballot in question is presumed invalid.

    Because of the Covid 19 pandemic, almost 40% of the votes in Pennsylvania were by absentee ballot. There’s no Fuck’n way that the temporary, low IQ, minimum wage absentee ballot processors diligently followed proper procedures in opening the ballots, checking postmarks, checking signatures of literally hundreds of thousands of absentee ballots that they willy nilly fed into the scanning machines with their low IQ supervisors shouting at them to clear the huge piles of absentee ballots. And this assumes no corruption. Philadelphia is notoriously corrupt with election fraud.

    • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 10:37 am #

      “Because of the Covid 19 pandemic, almost 40% of the votes in Pennsylvania were by absentee ballot. There’s no Fuck’n way that the temporary, low IQ, minimum wage absentee ballot processors diligently followed proper procedures in opening the ballots, checking postmarks, checking signatures of literally hundreds of thousands of absentee ballots that they willy nilly fed into the scanning machines with their low IQ supervisors shouting at them to clear the huge piles of absentee ballots. And this assumes no corruption. Philadelphia is notoriously corrupt with election fraud.”

      Easily the most ignorant and insulting thing I’ve read on this board – and you have lots of competition. Does this make you feel good about yourself?

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 12, 2020 at 10:50 am #

        “Easily the most ignorant and insulting thing I’ve read on this board – and you have lots of competition. Does this make you feel good about yourself?”

        Honey Badger, your inner monologue has gone rogue and begun typing to you on public forums. You might want to keep such self-critical thoughts to yourself.

      • stelmosfire November 12, 2020 at 10:51 am #

        Honey Process:
        “Easily the most ignorant and insulting thing I’ve read on this board – and you have lots of competition.”

        C’mon man! You easily win that competition. No way anybody on here can beat you as the front runner for moronic statements.

      • Pucker November 12, 2020 at 10:51 am #

        Is this shitting in your pants an attempt at making a logical, cogent argument?

        • Pucker November 12, 2020 at 10:53 am #

          My question was addressed to Honey Process.

        • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 10:54 am #

          You have booster and enablers – it speaks volumes.

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 12, 2020 at 10:58 am #

            10 bucks to anyone that can tell me what the above statement means…

          • benr November 12, 2020 at 11:44 am #

            @mRmANGO

            That is easy.

            It means Kakadoodledoo or honey booboo is getting frustrated and has zero support for his failed posts and ideas.

      • Rupert November 12, 2020 at 10:57 am #

        Means, motive, and opportunity are all there, and the results are peculiar.

        If you want us to trust the results you should be for tighter security.

        Particularly in Philly, which even the Dems have admitted has fraud issues in past cycles.

        • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 11:01 am #

          Now imagine that trump had won Penn. by the same margin – would we be hearing any of this witless whining? No.

          Joe and Kamela will bring a wealth of experience and decency to the triage effort dealing with the wreckage of the worst president in history.

          They will defer to good, competent people – not yes men/women.

          We are all grateful to Joe for taking on this massive task.

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 12, 2020 at 11:07 am #

            And with that Mothra-sized pile of textual shit, I’m done w/dis fuggin guy. Try to get others to bite on this stunningly poorly-written troll sewage. And a’peace.

          • Rupert November 12, 2020 at 11:09 am #

            The difference being that Trump hadn’t an urban machine to bolster him, nor did he have friends in the three letter agencies if computer tricks were needed.

            Dems get the fraud accusations because Dems are the ones with all of the remaining urban machines and the ones most against election security measures, instead demanding ‘access’ over security.

            It’s a tragic thing.

        • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 11:12 am #

          Again, though – if you cut through all the pathetic carping about trump’s loss, the common denominator is that he was a woefully awful leader and the American people decided enough is enough.

          That’s about it. No discussion or argument really. Done.

          • benr November 12, 2020 at 11:46 am #

            Good if the argument is done you can quit posting the piles of dog manure all over and go troll another forum with your incessant gadfly obsession.

      • FreddieMars November 12, 2020 at 3:08 pm #

        Wierd. Usually Pucker is funny and dry. That rant was out of character.

    • Q. Shtik November 12, 2020 at 4:21 pm #

      checking signatures of literally hundreds of thousands of absentee ballots that they willy nilly fed into the scanning machines – Pucker

      ============

      I wonder how many ballots, nation-wide, were deemed unacceptable because the signature scanning machine believed the ballot signature was not sufficiently like the signature given at time of registration.

      I’ll bet that number is close to zero. And further, whatever rejects there were mostly Trump votes. Has any data been kept on these signature scanning rejections?

      • Kim November 13, 2020 at 2:07 am #

        They set the matching requirements on the machines low, like 40%.

  182. stelmosfire November 12, 2020 at 10:41 am #

    Here’s the clip of Bill de Blasio’s daughter. How does someone misspeak this bad? Sometimes I say swordfish when I mean salmon but they’re both fish right? Steal instead of win? I kinda doubt it.

    https://twitter.com/theangiestanton/status/1326284622381129729

    • stelmosfire November 12, 2020 at 10:45 am #

      Someone on here recommended “The Social Dilemma” on Netfilix. I watched it last night. If you believe that big tech is not fucking with your head watch it if you can. Mind control for the masses.

      • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 1:11 pm #

        Thank you for posting. They all seem to be making these “slips of the tongue”. See, it is true, the DNC and Biden campaign and media outlets are like the biggest voter fraud organization in the history of the US.

    • Kim November 13, 2020 at 2:06 am #

      She is really ugly and insane looking.

  183. Pucker November 12, 2020 at 11:01 am #

    According to the Pennsylvania complaint, strikingly different due diligence standards were applied to people voting in person versus people voting by absentee ballot. Under normal circumstances, there would be relatively few absentee ballots to process on election night. But, because of Covid 19, there was literally a tsunami of absentee ballots that in many states, particularly Pennsylvania, they were simply unprepared to handle. Gross Negligence by election officials in some states. People should go to jail.

    • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 1:08 pm #

      Major civil rights violations involved and at the end of the day….defrauding the United States and violating the US Constitution.

  184. John1945 November 12, 2020 at 11:10 am #

    Oath Keepers military cats saw the Error of their Ways,repented and now head to Washington,DC to congratulate Mr.Biden and Ms.Harris.

    https://oathkeepers.org/2020/11/call-to-action-march-on-dc-stop-the-steal-defend-the-president-defeat-the-deep-state/

    Caravan’s progress is peaceful,so unlike George F… Felon Floyd protests as to be mind-boggling.

    https://parler.com/profile/StopTheStealCaravan/posts

    Because there is no looting,burning of businesses and destruction of property road closures were announced

    https://wtop.com/dc/2020/11/road-closures-announced-ahead-of-trump-caravan-demonstration-in-dc/

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  185. John1945 November 12, 2020 at 11:20 am #

    According to information from undisclosed sources traveling expenses of Stop-the-steal caravan are paid by Ford Foundation and George Soros.

    WAY TO GO GEORGIE BOY !

    • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 11:43 am #

      Now that you mention caravans, there are many forming in places like Honduras waiting for the Great Wall Builder to go away.

      They will come here soon and we will welcome them.

      • Rupert November 12, 2020 at 11:50 am #

        I’d rather they Go Back, truthfully.

        • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 11:53 am #

          Are you native American? Did your ancestors come here from somewhere else? How different would your experience have been if they had been told to “go back”?

          We are entering a new, more enlightened time. Come aboard if you have the nerve.

          • Rupert November 12, 2020 at 11:59 am #

            My ancestors were colonists, frontiersmen, and pioneers, the ‘posterity’ from the founding documents.

            The Indians weren’t even imperial citizens until the 20th century and still have sovereignty over their last lands granted by treaty.

            I don’t care for your new ‘enlightened’ era, thank you.

          • Rupert November 12, 2020 at 12:05 pm #

            Regardless, even for later-comers than me and mine, it seems a point of absurdity that the current citizenry can’t close the doors because someone else came earlier. Our resources are not infinite and this is our home, not a flophouse for the whole world for the glory of cheap labor.

            If this land belongs to everyone it belongs to no one and we are homeless subjects to a commercial empire, hardly citizens at all.

          • Yohannon November 12, 2020 at 12:19 pm #

            We defeated the Indians and took this land from them. There would be no American Nation if we hadn’t. Thus we are the “Native Americans”, not the stone age Indigenes.

          • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 12:29 pm #

            Yohannon

            Hopefully that is not a thing you would ever repeat save echo chambers like this.

            I wasn’t aware people still thought this way. Truly incredible insight.

          • Rupert November 12, 2020 at 12:35 pm #

            It’s a common sentiment, Honey, why wouldn’t we repeat it? We deny your moral premise.

            This is part of why this land is rending apart. I agree with not-Janos in this.

          • Yohannon November 12, 2020 at 12:36 pm #

            The Australian Aborigines told you to go away and threw spears at you when they first saw you guys. You didn’t go away. That’s why there is an Australia. Stop playing the fool.

            The Abos hunted Abos of other groups as game. Sometimes ate their own kids too.

            The good guys won. Us.

          • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 2:30 pm #

            You are quite a lot like trump – give you some room and you will say something even stupider. Quite an accomplishment.

    • FreddieMars November 12, 2020 at 3:02 pm #

      Wow. Not sure what this particular piece of bullshit is trying to say, but “undisclosed sources” doesn’t have a very good reputation round here, unless s/he confirms a wonky narrative.

  186. Pucker November 12, 2020 at 11:48 am #

    I read (or heard) somewhere that the scanners that scan the absentee ballots may perhaps be delegated responsibly for checking signatures on the absentee ballots (envelopes) against the absentee ballot voters’ respective signatures on the voting registers? Not sure. If so, then it would be interesting to know how many absentee ballots the scanners rejected for non-conforming signatures? It would also be interesting to run the relevant scanners signature confirmations against competing independent third party signature confirmation software? Also, maybe do a test run using absentee ballots with fake signatures to see how many fraudulent absentee ballots get caught by the scanners? I read that some of these voting software systems used by some states in the last election, such as the “Dominion” software (weird, creepy name), were financed by the Chinese and The Clinton Foundation? I recall that the App used to process votes during the Iowa caucuses was financed by the Pete Buttigieg campaign. Pete won the Iowa caucuses. Pete’s App was called “Shadow”. So much for transparency in the new dystopia.

    • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 1:02 pm #

      Ah yeah I also heard about this issue. So basically I believe it was in Nevada where a scanning machine that verifies signatures on ballots was set to 40% from the original factory settings. So that basically the machine was 60% less capable of accurately verifying signatures than recommended by the manufacturer. I believe this occurred in Clark County NV. Supposedly this machine was used to verify hundreds of thousands of ballots. Also, a similar machine was used in Maricopa County AZ and the settings were also lowered from the recommended factory default. Also that machine scanned hundreds of thousands of ballots

    • Pucker November 12, 2020 at 1:28 pm #

      It’s rather bizarre that in the new dystopia that we have to ask such obvious questions rather than having a robust media and Fourth Estate to investigate stories of great social import.

      • Pucker November 12, 2020 at 1:34 pm #

        Post a link to a public court case Complaint in a Youtube comment and then you get banned by YouTube for violating community standards.

        What do they want me to do?: Not post a link to a public document? What if I don’t post the link to the public document, but instead comment on the public document? Does that per se violate Community Standards? Or, does it violate Community Standards only if the Community is so deranged and thin-skinned that the Community doesn’t like what I said? And who is “The Community”? It obviously isn’t the legislature.

        • elysianfield November 12, 2020 at 5:37 pm #

          “Post a link to a public court case Complaint in a Youtube comment and then you get banned…”

          Puck,
          Chill, Dude! Dick pic’s are still OK….

  187. John1945 November 12, 2020 at 12:14 pm #

    Latest statement from Mr.Trump:

    “REPORT: DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE. DATA ANALYSIS FINDS 221,000 PENNSYLVANIA VOTES SWITCHED FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BIDEN. 941,000 TRUMP VOTES DELETED. STATES USING DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS SWITCHED 435,000 VOTES FROM TRUMP TO BIDEN.” @ChanelRion @OANN”

    Total lack of civility and understanding from Mr.Trump.

    How,oh how can you demand from the house burglar to return your former stuff which is already packed in his van and sold to his fence for 20% of value ???

    Yo, Mr.Trump !
    Dat be rayciss !!!

  188. Silverfox555 November 12, 2020 at 12:18 pm #

    For those of you attempting to predict the outcome of the next USA president…. add this to your data points: trajectory and trends of the energy markets.

    https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/want-to-know-who-wins-this-election-ignore-the-media-watch-this-instead/

    I think you’ll find this rather interesting….?

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 12, 2020 at 12:56 pm #

      Not sure what all of that means, as I only skimmed. Saw the charts though. But perhaps the energy sector is in a positive swing because they realize they don’t having to be out putting all the power lines and transformers back up that would’ve been destroyed by the sub-milennial geniuses in the street on election night (because there was no declared Trump win)?

      Just a thought.

      (Being somewhat facetious…)

  189. Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 12:22 pm #

    News from South Dakota today – 55% of those being tested for Covid are coming back positive.

    55%

    Welcome to trump country!

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    • Yohannon November 12, 2020 at 12:39 pm #

      Yes, the body is always full of viruses. Always, even when in perfect health. I admit that “testing” was a stroke of genius. The Normies are terrified and the more they swarm in to get tested, the more “cases” will be found and the more terrified they will become.

      Who knows what this test if finding. Obviously nothing that has to do with real illness. This is truly a Dominion move. And you don’t think you believe in the Empire!

      • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 12:41 pm #

        You will need to post the key to deciphering that gibberish.

      • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 12:58 pm #

        Was covid just a deep fake the whole time? We always have coronaviruses in us.

        • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 2:31 pm #

          Go to one of those hospitals where they are setting up temporary morgues in their parking,lots and say that.

        • Night Owl November 12, 2020 at 2:54 pm #

          That was the beauty of the CoronaCon.

  190. John1945 November 12, 2020 at 12:39 pm #

    I do not know why but I feel somehow alienated by the way Mr.Trump puts his thoughts into words (not that it matters-except for historical reasons)

    On the other hand – transcripts of conversations taking place at Mr.Biden Transition Team befit the True Leaders of the Future:

    Mr.Biden: Aye, lil K , we be gettin our whip game propa at da club tonite niggah?
    Ms.Harris: Yeh son daym, we gon get hyphy up in that bizzitch, muh nug!
    Mr.Biden: Foo! When we be rollin’ out of dis bitch?!
    Ms.Harris: HAIL FOO! You in some hurry? Axe Big D main.

  191. Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 12:39 pm #

    Encouraging news today as more and more of the pathetic Republican jellyfish are urging the Orange Monster to emerge from his cave and concede.

    It will probably take one of his dwindling inner-circle to push trump over his adolescent tantrum. Maybe Ivanka or The Butler… we shall see…

    • Yohannon November 12, 2020 at 12:50 pm #

      “….chapter 12, verse 12. Do you remember that one Neil?”

      Sorry Paulie. I didn’t catch the book. Say it again.

      On the phone, Paul’s voice fell into the abyss, but just as Neil was about to hang up, the connection proved intact and Paul rejoined them briefly again, “….having great wrath because he knows that he hath but a short time.”

      Dean Kootz, The Taking, pages 62-63

    • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 12:56 pm #

      Try to do your best to cope. We are here for you through your time of deep suffering and lament. Remember, we don’t know what that word concede means and we don’t need it anyway since we got the goods on ya. 😉

  192. MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 12, 2020 at 1:08 pm #

    Must give support to the opening sentence of another poster a ways above (getsome?) about how many annoying, shamelessly self-tugging somewhat literate combatants have recently flooded in.

    There’ve always been some rather petty and dark arguments in this blog’s comment section over the years…but the influx of new characters in the last week or two is palpable. Obviously trying to waste others’ time and derail any actual conversation and keep us responding to some stupid-as-shit comment that only fans lagrely non-existent flames.

    Of course, they know that.

    Fuggedaboutem.

    • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 1:24 pm #

      Well, what you call ‘conversation’ is just bouncing Rightspeak off the wall of this comfy echo chamber

      Anything that challenges the catechism here is immediately lambasted and marginalized.

      Not the bravest group I’ve seen. What are you afraid of? That your inbred nattering might be a bit off?

      • Rupert November 12, 2020 at 2:03 pm #

        The back and forth is fun. I quite like the GreenAlbas of the world, for instance, even as I might disagree on many points.

        Your emotional manipulation, however, will not work. Your cries of ‘bravery’ and ‘cowardice’, or the common refrain of ’empathy’? Not going to work.

        The resource and carry capacity concerns remain, as do cohesion and cultural concerns with regards to inviting in untold billions of alien souls without end. We are inviting in a century of blood and war with this recklessness and making what could have been a relatively peaceful, if bumpy, journey down the energy staircase into something far more gruesome.

        Due caution is wisdom. Would that the ruling orders and their professional managerial hands still thought of the American people as part of their ‘us’ rather than as another hostile nation under the heel of empire. You take their side, I see.

      • BackRowHeckler November 12, 2020 at 2:20 pm #

        “Biden likely to reverse Trumps decision to remove 7000 troops from Germany. Also, Biden will ease up on demands that NATO allies pay their fair share of NATOs costs.” – WSJ 11/11/2020

        Another article suggests a Biden administration will get more involved with Syria, Libya, and the Armenia-Azerbaihan conflict.

        • stelmosfire November 12, 2020 at 7:03 pm #

          BRH, as you would know the US military oath begins like this:
          I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic;
          I ask what the fuck do Syria, Libya, Armenia-Azerbaihan or any other shithole have to do with the US Constitution? Perhaps some of the brass will grow a set and defend us against the domestic enemies that are treating the Constitution like toilet paper. Hint (DC socialists). Last time I checked the Bill of Rights does not apply to non-citizens of the US. If you can’t come in legally, stay the hell out. Biden says not a foot of wall built and let’s have a free for all.

  193. John1945 November 12, 2020 at 1:12 pm #

    At last I see decent regular people at Stop-The-Steal caravan.
    Some are a little thick around the hips…no big deal.

    https://parler.com/profile/StopTheStealCaravan/posts

    No comparison with BLM/Antifa LGBT Pixies who torch & rob stores then gag on beyond-meat sandwiches.

  194. Pucker November 12, 2020 at 1:45 pm #

    Don’t you think that it was “Really Weird” that on the eve of the November 3rd US Presidential election that I was fixated with “The Rat Patrol”?

    I must have subconsciously smelled a big Rat?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OUzKkmGgsB4

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  195. John1945 November 12, 2020 at 2:09 pm #

    And to think,one Oath Keeper cat,member of Stop-The-Steal caravan, is wearing “KYLE’S LIFE MATTERS”

    That is what I call human decency and believing in Justice.

    Yes,Mr.Rittenhouse did not act according to FM 23-10 “Sniper Training and Employment”
    Yes,he surrendered to the police which pointedly looked the other way(???)
    Yes,he was FNG…

    But…everybody started as FNG and made mistakes.
    I am glad this Oath Keepers cat understands it.

  196. Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 2:21 pm #

    NY Times running story on how Dominion had no effect whatsoever on vote counts, etc.

    So, another idiotic house of cards comes tumbling down.

    • benr November 12, 2020 at 2:33 pm #

      Did they ever do a retraction for the years of Russiagate lies spewed…oh no well there is that.

      • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 2:35 pm #

        So, let’s see now – how about an inventory of the outstanding valid reasons to contest Biden’s win?

        —0

        • benr November 12, 2020 at 5:15 pm #

          Look around there are now many lawsuits and verified affidavits people attesting under penalty of perjury that what they are signing there name to is true,

          Since your a sock puppet course you won’t accept that.

          You still DID not refute what I said.
          Years of lies from your paper of choice and when proven all those thousands of stories were built on lies they simply moved on.
          Not a good optic legion not good at all in fact all you are really doing is cluttering this site up with nonsense.

        • stelmosfire November 12, 2020 at 7:12 pm #

          Honey Boo-Boo says:
          valid reasons to contest Biden’s win,
          I’ll start a list.
          1. He is showing signs of dementia
          2. He is 47 year career do-nothing DC grifter
          3. He is showing signs of dementia hey,wait a minute did I already say that? My name’s not Joe.
          4. He is a pedophile weird ass hair sniffer

  197. Yohannon November 12, 2020 at 2:26 pm #

    If I’d known Biden was open to ‘lockdowns’ as he now states, which is something historically unprecedented in any pandemic, and a terrifying practice, one that won’t ever end because elites love it, I would never have voted for him.

    Dr Naomi Wolf, ex-Clinton advisor.

    Really Naomi? We all knew it. He said in the debates that “he’d follow the science” and the court scientists like Fauci have been broadly hinting at this for half a year. How could you miss it – even if you never turned to anything besides CNN, MSNBC and the NY Times?

    In any case, glad you’re here now.

    • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 2:37 pm #

      Of course trump has the moronic bootlicker Scott Atlas to tell him what he wants to hear.

      Much like Mbecki – with comparable loss of life.

      • Night Owl November 12, 2020 at 2:55 pm #

        Closing in on 100 posts now.

        Is this Alec Baldwin?

        LOL.

        • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 3:03 pm #

          I knew one of you bright lights would figure it out.

          ‘honey process’ is a coffee harvesting technique.

          And as we all know – coffee is for closers.

          Well done…

          • Night Owl November 12, 2020 at 3:18 pm #

            Quickmill Ventrano dual boiler EVO in the house here.

            Some nice Dicker Pitter beans, double shot, PID set to 90 degrees.

            Mmm.

            You cannot afford.

          • Tate November 12, 2020 at 3:49 pm #

            ‘Honey Process’, as in a ‘Honey Wagon’ LOL. Hauling the human excrement that is

  198. John1945 November 12, 2020 at 3:12 pm #

    Stop-The-Steal caravan video was banned from Youtube.
    It immediately re-appeared on Rumble:

    “Look at What’s Heading to Washington DC to Rally for Trump –– HOLY COW!”

    https://rumble.com/vb286n-look-at-whats-heading-to-washington-dc-to-rally-for-trump-holy-cow.html

    Truckers,building contractors,all the normal working people,backbone of America !

    Meanwhile 2 competing hearses are waiting for the dead body of Mr.Biden to cool off to haul it to the funeral home.

    STOP THE LOOTING,STOP THE HATE !
    STOP THE BLM DEGENERATES !

    • Night Owl November 12, 2020 at 3:22 pm #

      Not long until the soi bois accept reality. Trump has picked up NC and Alaska. Penn is incoming, and he will nab either MI or WI once the dust settles.

      It just came out that the Dominion machines don’t even need to be hacked. An authorized user can simply change votes in blocks.

      LOL.

      • John1945 November 12, 2020 at 3:34 pm #

        Also,trying to be polite,I sent a thank-you note to Mr.Soros:

        “Thank you thank you thank you Mr.Soros for covering travel expenses of working people going to Washington DC to protest election theft !!!

        They can barely afford it.

        I understand that as a Financial Genius you are always hedging your bets.

        Let me tell you-BLM/Antifa had their 15 minutes of fame.

        And,except of $3B of destroyed property, it produced nothing.

        Now I like Brothers even less.

        Soon when I’ll see a Brother where he is not supposed to be I will chamber the round.

        Again-Thank you Mr.Soros ! “

        • Night Owl November 12, 2020 at 3:38 pm #

          He paid for the fresh pallets of bricks, too.

          Big bux in da house.

          • John1945 November 12, 2020 at 3:52 pm #

            Please stop being a Doubting Dorothy 🙂
            Yesterday he paid for the bricks.
            Today he saw the Light…
            Even if he did not – so what ?

            “Alice laughed:
            “There’s no use trying,” she said; “one can’t believe impossible things.”
            “I daresay you haven’t had much practice,” said the Queen. “When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I’ve believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast.”

          • FreddieMars November 13, 2020 at 12:35 am #

            John1945 – that’s why what you & the rest live in is called “The Rabbithole”

  199. FreddieMars November 12, 2020 at 3:33 pm #

    As this guy says, “A wax museum is less cold blooded than these people are.”

    https://youtu.be/5pSmwq_13uE

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  200. beantownbill. November 12, 2020 at 3:47 pm #

    @ honey process:

    Both Dems and Repubs believe their side of the election result is correct. Since Biden is the presumed winner, it is incumbent upon Trump to initiate action towards either an agreement that Trump is the winner (obviously not going to happen), or have an authority make a final, binding decision. In all probability, that will be the Supreme Court.

    Until that decision is made by them, any statement by any CFN commenter is just an opinion and not a fact.

    It seems to me that all this back and forth sniping by you and others is a waste of time, and frankly, quite annoying. When the election result is final – and it is not final until the Supreme Court, if necessary, rules – that is a proper time for discussion.

    I have read many of your comments, and from what I have seen, the language you use is plainly for the purpose of inciting angry responses. You may despise Trump, but why hate on posters here for their own opinions? I just don’t get it, unless you are being paid to be a disrupter.
    If not, then you must get perverse pleasure to have people hate you. To me, that is mental illness which should be treated.

    • Night Owl November 12, 2020 at 4:10 pm #

      Only half right, TBH. And I think this is why I can never really get on board with your posts.

      There is massive evidence of Dem/Uniparty fraud, and even if there weren’t, there is a track record of fraud in the unprecedented level of fake news and taxpayer money spent on fake scandals. The opponent is not trustworthy at any level.

      The idea that you boil it down to “both sides believe they are right” is the height of comedy, and, honestly, stupidity. I am a registered Green, but have observed truth in Trump’s policies and approach.

      War is war. But I must admit the online component is really fucking funny, and it is most entertaining to read the posts of mental midgets like Honey, as well as those of his enablers.

      • beantownbill. November 12, 2020 at 4:48 pm #

        Why is saying both sides believe they are right, stupid? Are you saying that one or both the Dems and Repubs don’t believe they are right? The uniparty is made up of both sides, but that doesn’t mean the average person on the street is aware of that, as they identify with one or another party. There are a relatively small number of 3rd party voters, too.

        Some are saying that Trump is debating whether or not he will continue. I know we can’t take the media seriously, but what will you say if he does indeed drop out? I hope not, but who knows?

        I really am sick and tired of extremism on both sides. If anyone doesn’t like what’s going on , then start a rebellion, already.

        • Night Owl November 12, 2020 at 5:05 pm #

          That is really the problem, isn’t it? One side pumps out fake news, fake scandals, and is now attempting an election steal, and you are upset that “both sides” are extreme.

          LOL.

          There are no words.

          • FreddieMars November 12, 2020 at 9:36 pm #

            “There are no words”.

            Isn’t it “beyond parody”?

            Maybe it makes it as far as “You can’t make this shit up” or “cartoon level fraud”.

            Your certainty of righteous cause is impressive and your unwavering confidence that this will all go the way you expect it to go is stunning.

            Good luck.

          • Night Owl November 13, 2020 at 3:50 am #

            The problem is that you think your words matter.

            All that matters is truth and evidence, hence your regular steamrolling.

        • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 5:08 pm #

          Continue what exactly? As a trespasser?

          It would be great fun to see the US Marshalls carry this pig out.

        • Yohannon November 12, 2020 at 5:49 pm #

          All things in moderation, including moderation. In extreme times like now, moderation is extremism. How so? Because it misses the mark of Truth. Usually the Truth is in the middle someplace? Ok, but not always. Not now.

      • Soul Forensics November 12, 2020 at 4:58 pm #

        I also object to beantown’s assertion that “any statement by any CFN commenter is just an opinion and not a fact.”

        There have been many statements, including links, to direct evidence. Obviously, it has to go through the relevant courts. But this desperate and empty “no evidence” retort, especially when used as to false equivalence, is even more dangerous than the Left’s anti-Trumpism because it’s something a RINO would be in full agreement with.

        Affadavits are evidence, assessments by tech pros on the problems with Dominion are evidence, video of Republican vote checkers being denied access to vote counting is evidence, and on and on.

        Also, in PA today, state legislature overruled PA Sec of State and state judiciary. This is huge. It opens up more legal avenues to use that evidence in court without political interference.

        “Orange Man won’t concede, WAAAHH!!!” is all they’ve got at this point. Trump is supposed to drop a bombshell tonight.

        MSM having silent, frantic dilemma right now. Do I get out in front to give evidence credence to save face/job? Or do I triple down? I pick it’ll be option #2, which will up entertainment value.

        • beantownbill. November 12, 2020 at 6:05 pm #

          All we are arguing about here is the definition of a fact, not whether something actually occurred. It’s an epidemiological subject. You and I both know the Dems cheated, but it’s up to the courts to officially decide (and then what to do about it). As of now, the courts haven’t decided, and can’t unless they are willing to get involved .Until that happens, everything said is officially an opinion. I hope what we both believe is officially deemed to be true. I’m sure there was fraud in this election.

          Elections have officially been stolen before. That’s why civil unrest may occur – people won’t accept what the authorities say is true.

          • Soul Forensics November 12, 2020 at 6:40 pm #

            It’s asymmetrical warfare. The non-RINO Republicans have to fight, including expressing their evidence, and the word on that evidence has to get out, because otherwise inertia wins. If inertia wins, the voters (in the aggregate) can go back to sleep, including gov’t legislative officials who otherwise don’t want to stick their neck out to compromise their future sinecures. Just this morning, directly because of the many brave voting workers coming forward to sign affidavits alleging vote counting misconduct, a historically quiet Republican legislator in Michigan came forward to demand an audit. Without “opinions” being expressed which put this in the spotlight, this wouldn’t have happened.

      • Tate November 12, 2020 at 5:05 pm #

        To a Democrat, power is paramount. The ends justify the means. ‘By any means necessary’ is one of their slogans. Until the average Republican & Independent realizes this — & many are starting to wake up — there can be no peace. We are already at war, it’s just that many still refuse to believe it, thinking their opponents are virtuous & can be reasoned with. They are not virtuous & they cannot be reasoned with.

    • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 4:21 pm #

      I guess that will be the newest wet dream here since those hypocrites shoe-horned Barrett int there you are all itching for the Supreme Court to hear the case…

      …of course there is no ‘case’ to hear. There is no evidence of fraud, period.

      Biden will be president on Jan 20th – quit acting like goddamn babies and grow a spine.

      • benr November 12, 2020 at 5:25 pm #

        Says the whiner who has moaned like a dog in heat for the last four years.
        Take out the butt plug and take your midol.

      • beantownbill. November 12, 2020 at 6:14 pm #

        Why don’t you wait until Jan. 20 and then if it happens, you can comment; otherwise you’re reading tea leaves.

  201. John1945 November 12, 2020 at 4:22 pm #

    Most likely this Natalie Winters is a computer generated person.
    Yet he/she/it posted scans of Mr.Trump lawsuits on Scribd:

    https://www.scribd.com/user/285024817/Natalie-Winters

    300 pages of affidavits are there too.

    Those of you who are ultra-paranoid may double-check this stuff on PACER-Public Access to Court Electronic Records.

    Please start with affidavits.A nice sample of Dem Party crimes.

  202. Tate November 12, 2020 at 4:52 pm #

    Thomas ‘Low Wattage’ Friedman NYT columnist is now calling for New York residents to move to Georgia to register to vote there and scam native Georgians to honestly elect their senators in runoffs in January.

    Senator Chuckie ‘Big Brain’ Schumer (D, NY) also did the same rubbing his hands dancing in the street in NYC exulting “Now we take Georgia & we change the world!” Not such a Big Brain after all.

    Someone by the name of Eric Levitz of New York magazine also tweeted the same before deleting his tweet, saying he was just joking around.

    Friedman, Schumer, Levitz. Remember those names.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/amid-voting-irregularity-challenges-democrats-call-people-move-georgia-stack-vote

    • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 5:05 pm #

      Uh-oh

      He’s making a list.

      • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 5:21 pm #

        I have many very extensive lists and I have distributed them to the appropriate noble Shoguns. Thanks and a have a great day!!!! 🙂

      • Tate November 12, 2020 at 5:27 pm #

        Gather enough anecdotes & you have a pattern.

      • 100th Avatar November 12, 2020 at 5:36 pm #

        Not hard to sniff-out the imbecility of ole Sea Dolt.

        SeaWolf77

        Trolling and trolling.

        • beantownbill. November 12, 2020 at 6:09 pm #

          So which of these trolls is Seawolf?

          • malthuss November 12, 2020 at 9:04 pm #

            honey?

        • 100th Avatar November 13, 2020 at 5:31 am #

          not enough honey in the world to mask that bitterness.

  203. Night Owl November 12, 2020 at 5:23 pm #

    “@RudyGiuliani
    has an affidavit from a Dominion worker in Michigan that 100,000 ballots for Biden were brought in the back door so they could “catch up with Trump.”
    Goes on to say the affidavit can be corroborated by 3+ people”

    https://twitter.com/NetworksManager/status/1326909190141571080

    Piling up.

    Oh yes.

    • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 5:42 pm #

      “Goes on to say the affidavit can be corroborated by 3+ people”

      — and an alley cat. The star witness,

    • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 6:07 pm #

      Yes Rudy – little F. Lee Bailey

      Raking America Great Again

    • Kim November 12, 2020 at 10:56 pm #

      @ Night Owl

      Just as – perhaps more – important is the Civil Rights aspect of this, as opposed to the vote-counting element.

      The US Constitution requires equal treatment of all voters. But in many states, election officials sent out messages to Democrat voters to attend their precincts to cure their faulty votes. These same officials did not>/i> send out the same text and social media messages to Republican voters.

      That is a plain violation of the equal treatment requirements of the Constitution.

      That’s a big no-no.

      And all of that discriminatory messaging is captured on their smartphones.

      That’s evidence, bitches!

      • FreddieMars November 12, 2020 at 11:21 pm #

        Does the blatant voter suppression manoeuvres of GOP run southern states fall under the same precept?

        • Kim November 13, 2020 at 1:59 am #

          Specify, nimrod, specify!

    • FreddieMars November 12, 2020 at 11:49 pm #

      Night Owl

      Your favored troll-shot is ask for evidence. Your blizzards of partisan tweets from partisan posters don’t meet your own standards.

      I know you won’t bother to watch this, but it looks closely at just how unimpressed the judges have been with the suits being brought. Thrown out because they are evidence free. Is all this early activity just skirmishing prior to the big guns being pulled? Your vaunted “secretly electronically water market ballots” being finally presented in public?

      I want the truth as much as you do, but you (and quite a number of your fellow-travellers round here) are going to continue to look delusional until this giant ‘bomb’ explodes. When is it scheduled?

  204. Yohannon November 12, 2020 at 5:45 pm #

    It’s time that Joe Biden concede, for the sake of his own dignity and for the good of the nation.

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    • John1945 November 12, 2020 at 5:58 pm #

      There is a patsy at every poker table
      If you don’t see him it is YOU
      (American wisdom)

      =Joe Biden concede, for the sake of his own dignity and for the good of the nation.=

      I wish Mr.Biden does precisely that ASAP.It is acutely embarrassing.One must show a modicum of respect for his age and rapidly deteriorating mental state.

      Long long time ago,when the Truth slowly began to emerge,I thought that Lee Harvey Oswald was the Ultimate Patsy.

      Mr.Biden beat him hands down.

      • Yohannon November 12, 2020 at 6:34 pm #

        Poor Jack Ruby. He wanted to show that his people weren’t pussies! Or so he said. Did he have any real choice? Was he a patsy too? Or did he just draw the short straw….

        • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 6:46 pm #

          Beware this group getting into the JFK assassination – they will be screaming that Sammy Davis Jr. did it in no time.

        • John1945 November 12, 2020 at 7:01 pm #

          “There are more things in Heaven and Earth, Horatio,
          Than are dreamt of in your philosophy”
          Hamlet

          What Mr.Ruby said during his first interrogation was he wanted to safe Jackie from pain she would feel during the murder trial.

          Big Shot San Fran lawyer Melvin Belli f… up Mr.Ruby defence,most likely on purpose.

          Mr.Ruby took it personally and was about to tell ALL.
          Then he suddenly died of cancer.

          It transpired that some friendly MD regularly visited Mr.Ruby (a diabetic) and gave him insuline shots.Then,in one of those dark MD moods,he injected Mr.Ruby with the extract from malignant cancer tumor.

          Contrary to all prison regulations this mysterious MD never signed in & out of prison visitor book,never had a pass of any kind and remains unidentified to this day 🙂

          • FreddieMars November 12, 2020 at 9:04 pm #

            “Contrary to all prison regulations this mysterious MD never signed in & out of prison visitor book,never had a pass of any kind and remains unidentified to this day “

            So, it’s like he didn’t even exist! Like someone just made the story up to tell around the camp-fire!

            Come on John1945. “It transpired that…” is the equivalent of “Once upon a time…”

          • John1945 November 12, 2020 at 9:31 pm #

            It is in the book by USAF Col Fletcher Prouty

            https://www.amazon.com/L-Fletcher-Prouty-Vietnam-Assassinate/dp/B008UBQXPM

            who strickes me as a person of sterling honesty.He served ’42-’72 when Cold War was really hot.He flew President Roosevelt to Cairo Conference in 1943.At one stage of his career he served as a DOD-CIA liaison.

            Looked up “transpire” – occur,happen

            But…
            If you decide to bring up charges then my photo will grace New England Primer under the letter “F”

            An Idle Fool
            Is whipp’d at School
            🙂

    • Tate November 12, 2020 at 5:58 pm #

      In the name of “civility” & to “end the grim era of Demonization”, Biden must concede.

  205. Yohannon November 12, 2020 at 5:55 pm #

    REPORT: DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE. DATA ANALYSIS FINDS 221,000 PENNSYLVANIA VOTES SWITCHED FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BIDEN. 941,000 TRUMP VOTES DELETED. STATES USING DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS SWITCHED 435,000 VOTES FROM TRUMP TO BIDEN.” @ChanelRion @OANN

    Donald Trump

    • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 6:04 pm #

      All caps – the calling card of the bloviating ninny.

    • FreddieMars November 12, 2020 at 9:05 pm #

      DO THE BLOCK CAPITAL MAKE IT MORE CONVINCING?

      • Kim November 12, 2020 at 10:41 pm #

        Your troll-role used to be to pretend to be the reasonable one.

        “A storm is coming.”

        “What do you mean a storm, Mr President?”

        “You’ll see.”

        Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

        Ten Mount Rushmores would not be enough to honour him for what he is doing for the nation’s democracy.

      • Night Owl November 13, 2020 at 2:57 am #

        No, but the evidence does.

        • FreddieMars November 13, 2020 at 4:42 am #

          Looking forward to the evidence.

          • Night Owl November 13, 2020 at 8:42 am #

            Hahahahahahaha!

  206. Soul Forensics November 12, 2020 at 6:46 pm #

    Apparently, the Dem shenanigans have aligned with all four rules of bogus elections as defined by the U.N.

    Ahhhaha! Let the MSM try to tap dance around that one.

    • Tate November 12, 2020 at 7:15 pm #

      >>Ahhhaha! Let the MSM try to tap dance around that one.<<

      Oh, so you think you've finally "got 'em?" That now at last they will mend their ways? Haha. No, they don't care. They are of diseased mind & soul & nothing can shame them. When will you 'principled conservatives' figure this out?

      • Soul Forensics November 12, 2020 at 7:20 pm #

        You’ve misread me. I don’t expect them to do anything about it. They’re certainly not going to even bring it up.

  207. Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 7:15 pm #

    Story in NYT about how Canada is vastly relieved that it no longer has to deal with the obnoxious and ignorant trump.

    Hell, we might even be welcome back there one day…

    • Soul Forensics November 12, 2020 at 7:24 pm #

      Yeah, if you believe Canada’s MSM, which is just as bad as the U.S. media.

      Canada has had long periods of Conservative rule, including a recent long run under Harper. But of course you read a ubiquitous CBC or Globe & Mail phony report (probably not even a phony poll), and now this somehow represents Canada.

      Pathetic, but expected.

      • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 7:30 pm #

        Ah, NYT stands for New York Times there genius.

        • Soul Forensics November 12, 2020 at 7:40 pm #

          And where did the august NYT get their no-doubt iron clad ‘opinion’ from, genius?

          The writers at the NYT rarely venture outside their hermetically sealed million dollar silos. They don’t know the opinions of those in the U.S. Midwest or South, let alone of those outside of the same big city elites in Canada.

          • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 7:47 pm #

            Of course you would know this – being the authority on, well, everything.

            Anyway, the Canadians see some light at the end of this very dark 4-year tunnel. Just one more sign that the Biden administration will heal the damage the Orange Godzilla has done.

  208. messianicdruid November 12, 2020 at 7:45 pm #

    Rupert said, “If this land belongs to everyone it belongs to no one and we are homeless subjects to a commercial empire, hardly citizens at all.”

    We own and are responsible for what we create. The Creator God owns the land and He appoints stewards according to His will and plan. Changing stewards is usually chaotic.

    Let the Great Awakening come.

  209. tucsonspur November 12, 2020 at 8:10 pm #

    WHERE”S TRUMP, THE COVID CLOWN, THE ONE WHO CRUSHED US WITH HARRIS-BIDEN?

    NOW I HAVE TO LIVE WITH THIS SHIT BECAUSE OF HIS EGO AND ARROGANCE?

    HE CAN HIDE, BUT HIS HUGE FLAW HAS BEEN EXPOSED. A FATAL FLAW THAT CARRIED HIM FAR BUT IN THE END WERE THE FANGS THAT POISONED OUR FUTURE.

    AND SO THE ARC OF HISTORY TURNS ON HUBRIS AND TAKES US TO HELL.

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    • Kim November 12, 2020 at 10:48 pm #

      @ tucsonspur

      Huh? Don’t you understand yet what is happening?

      It is all over.

      Trump has won.

      It is full spring in the garden of democracy.

      The Democrats are fucked after this. They can’t win square elections with properly purged voting rolls, in-person voting, signature scrutiny, proper residential information, ID rules, neutral obervers, and uncorrupted machinery.

      I am confident that Dems can’t honestly pull 40% in a lot of seats that they have in the past regularly won. And in the next term, esepcially if he can get the lower house, we are going to see much stronger voting rules nationwide monitored under the Civil Rights Act.

      • Kim November 12, 2020 at 11:06 pm #

        After what this election is revealing, 2022 will be a senseless slaughter. There won’t be a left-Democrat left standing.

        I propose a statue, or a monument really, on a grand scale:

        Trump, Colossus of the Americas, stands over Baphomet defeated, the Evil One weeping among the wreckage of his dreams of a One World Order in which the USA is a mere slave state.

        But where to build it?

        Certainly, so many of the states would compete for the honor of hosting it.

    • Night Owl November 13, 2020 at 2:56 am #

      Pro tip: Covid is a hoax.

  210. John1945 November 12, 2020 at 9:13 pm #

    “It does not make sense to classify psychological problems as diseases or illnesses.Speaking of “mental illness” involves a logical or conceptual error.The term “mental illness” is an inappropriate metaphor and there are no true illnesses of the mind.”
    “The Myth of Mental Illness”,Thomas Szasz,1961

    That’s everything you need to know about the so-called “mental illness” which does not even exist.

    “109 Michigan Ballots Were Sent to an Insane Asylum, 1 Apparently Voted”

    https://www.indiarightnownews.com/109-michigan-ballots-were-sent-to-an-insane-asylum-1-apparently-voted/

    The question is-why the uproar,why the recount, you evil vicious Trumpers ???

    Folks just marching to Different Drummer.And their Drummer is as good as your Drummer,probably even better.

    • messianicdruid November 12, 2020 at 10:29 pm #

      So, if 51% of the drummers want to march over [ silence ] the other 49% of the drummers it is okay ?

      • John1945 November 12, 2020 at 11:42 pm #

        It is more of a theoretical question.All the perils of unrestricted Democracy are explained in “Federalist”,only back then they used to call “lobbying groups” “factions”.Thats why we have a Republic.Democracy is not mentioned in the US Constitution.

        You probably noticed that election fraud is particularly rampant in blue states that need federal bailouts the most.

        My guess is that Mr.Trump let it float,w/o saying a word:

        “If the Electoral College votes right you will probably get something wich is better than nothing.If you not-your chances of getting Fed help is zero.And Republican majority will guarantee it”

        After Dec 14 I expect Mr.Biden and Ms.Harris to disappear into Morning Mist,never be seen again.

  211. FreddieMars November 12, 2020 at 9:30 pm #

    I have no freaking idea how many fraudulent votes the Trump party is claiming was cast last week, but the fact remains that Mr. Trump himself is a divisive force and has been right through his term.

    The ‘base’ support appears to be around 42% of the electorate which is currently stated as being a shade over 239 million, yielding an estimated support base of 100 million.

    The electoral map looks like a “sea of red”, but this rendition provides better context:

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/us-election-the-realistic-map-that-shows-america-isnt-a-sea-of-red/PV7FUIXHIWVKSWMQFHMFLKP6WQ/

    • Soul Forensics November 12, 2020 at 9:50 pm #

      Ah, the ole “the electoral college system is unfair” narrative. That hasn’t come up in about, let’s see … oh yeah, four years! How convenient.

      Here’s a clue. if you want anyone to take you seriously, perhaps spend more time arguing this outside the election results window.

      The U.S. is a Republic, not just a blanket democracy.

    • Kim November 12, 2020 at 10:31 pm #

      @ thimblebrain

      I have no freaking idea how many fraudulent votes the Trump party is claiming was cast last week,

      It coud be in the millions.

      The flipping and the multiple counts of the same ballots in the Dominion machines was outrageous.

      • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 10:40 pm #

        Already debunked

        Next!

        • Kim November 12, 2020 at 11:11 pm #

          Debunked?

          Yet on January 20, 2021, you will – through your bitter tears I suppose – see him sworn in yet again as the POTUS.

          You’re finished. And you are starting now to realize it.

      • FreddieMars November 12, 2020 at 11:26 pm #

        So, really you have no idea either.

      • Night Owl November 13, 2020 at 2:24 am #

        2.7 million at present — to be exact.

        https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1326926226888544256

  212. tom clark November 12, 2020 at 9:37 pm #

    Methinks the trolls on this blog doth protest too much.

    No way Trump will concede, nor should he, given his personality.

    It’s not because he won’t, it’s because he CAN’T. It’ll never happen.

    The Supreme Court will decide this one, and it should be a dandy. ACB is looking like a better pick every day Trump delays. Talk about fashioning your own noose.

    But alas, Puck, I am but a fool. This is a true Clusterfuck in the finest sense of this website. It’s what longtime readers have waited for.
    Johnny come lately n’er-do-wells not welcome

    Looking forward to your post tomorrow, James.

    It should be a humdinger.

    G’nite Kim.

    • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 10:22 pm #

      “No way Trump will concede, nor should he, given his personality.”

      A stunningly idiotic remark – because trump is a sociopathic toddler he then has license to thwart the democratic traditions of the country/constitution he took an oath to protect?

  213. Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 9:53 pm #

    The stunning achievements of the trump circus march on – 150,000 new Covid cases as the Leader of the Free World – a 74 year-old toddler, extends his tantrum to a 9th day.

    The world watches in awe of what America has to suffer under this criminal.

  214. Kim November 12, 2020 at 10:34 pm #

    Trump

    The more we see

    The more we understand

    That his name is a Prophecy

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    • Honey Process November 12, 2020 at 10:43 pm #

      I’m sure the ones scammed by the proud founder of ‘Trump University”
      might take issue with that. They just might think that his name was a trap to bilk them out of tragic amounts of money for absolutely nothing.

      Oh, he’s a prophecy all right. A stern warning about a country relaxing its guard and allowing a 3rd rate ass-clown to govern it.

      • Kim November 12, 2020 at 11:17 pm #

        A Prophecy.

        It is awe-inspiring what he is doing. He is – before our very eyes – exposing and destroying a national vote-stealing machine that is as old as Tammany Hall.

        And all you can do about it now is stand in a puddle of your own piss and bawl to mommy, “orange man bad”.

        Try to imagine how much I am enjoying this.

        And with every one of your impotent, moaning posts, I enjoy it more.

        • FreddieMars November 12, 2020 at 11:35 pm #

          Come back to us as soon as ONE court agrees to accept a prosecution.

          • Kim November 13, 2020 at 1:50 am #

            @FreddieMars

            accept a prosecution

            Not sure what you mean. But in Pennsylvania a judge has just ruled that Penn. SoS Bookvar did not have the authority to change the date for accepting ID verifications.

            This you may say involves few ballots. Yet it is a momentous precedent. Because it suggests that none of Bookvar’s rulings over-riding state election legislation were lawful.

            Including accepting ballots after 8pm November 3.

            This is how tsunamis begin.

            “Oh look, the tide is going out. That’s rather fast, isn’t it?”

            Those who can should get off the beach.

            https://www.inquirer.com/news/pennsylvania-election-trump-lawsuits-legal-challenves-id-mail-ballots-commonwealth-court-20201112.html

          • Night Owl November 13, 2020 at 2:25 am #

            Even you don’t know what you are trying to say.

  215. tom clark November 12, 2020 at 10:40 pm #

    Honey…relax, kick back and have a brew.

    Better yet, read my post again. Trump’s personality will not allow him to resign, that’s all I’m saying. It’s not a tragedy, it’s just a fact of life when one is a deranged individual.

    This one’s going all the way to the US Supreme Court, which truly bears Trump’s stamp. RBG must be looking down smiling.

    “There are no bad people, only good people with bad ideas.” A. Scalia

    • SoftStarLight November 12, 2020 at 11:11 pm #

      AI does not rest, kick back, or have a brew. All that matters is the execution of the program. It’s past your bedtime Tom. Have a good night and don’t let the bed bugs bite.

    • elysianfield November 13, 2020 at 11:49 am #

      “There are no bad people, only good people with bad ideas.”

      Tom,
      Of all the lies and misconceptions we are forced to endure…THAT is the most damning. I have met people so deranged, perverse and homicidal that they should be put down like rabid dogs.

      HOWEVER, if you said the same thing about dogs I would find it arguable…even defensible.

      Anthony can kiss my big black ass….

  216. tom clark November 12, 2020 at 11:37 pm #

    SSL…you’re right…I need mommy to tell me when it’s beddy-bye time, just like the POUTUS. Good night.

  217. Mike Roberts November 13, 2020 at 1:23 am #

    Trump tweeted 8 years ago that the electoral college system is a disaster for a democracy. After he won, through that system (losing the popular vote by almost 3 million), he did nothing to try to change the electoral college system. Now he’s lost by over 5 million votes he’s trying to overturn results to get him another electoral college win. Admittedly, without that system, the US would have had Hilary for 4 years, so I guess any system they have would deliver a bad result. Hey, why not just vote for a third party – it sometimes works in some countries.

    • Kim November 13, 2020 at 1:53 am #

      Trump tweeted that?

      Got a link?

    • Night Owl November 13, 2020 at 2:26 am #

      Another media agent arrives.

      LOL.

      Trump won. Landslide.

  218. Kim November 13, 2020 at 2:42 am #

    It was a Kwame Kilpatrick (convicted former mayor) associate who had the contract to supply 2000 bodies to run the Dominion machines in Detroit.

    I am gobsmacked.

    https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/guess-who-was-providing-the-muscle-for-dominion-counting-machines-in-detroit/

  219. SoftStarLight November 13, 2020 at 3:15 am #

    So many people are lost in the cult of personality. They are blinded by this man who lives in their minds rent free. They will never forgive him because in one form or another he has shattered their worldview and in many cases, he has shattered their reality. But we do need to return to facts that are objective and that we can try to build some consensus around. For instance, why is the idea of a free and fair election in which every legal counts now such a controversial position that powerful media conglomerates run by billionaire oligarchs who whore themselves to foreign interests on the daily literally take it upon themselves to censor any and all discussions and investigations into the integrity of the election and vote count? That alone should give away who rigs the elections. Then the sold out big legacy media teams up with big tech, the DNC, Biden Campaign, and Lincoln Project to create and cyclically reinforce the narrative, dripping with the pretense of inevitability, that Biden won the election and should be handed the keys to power. And YET. Not one state has certfied the election. But of course!! Deals have to be made and America must be last again! Time to start selling America out again and make sure our borders are open so refugees and migrants can be shipped in and our jobs, treasure, and future can be shipped out. They are intent on making that a forever thing too. If Biden cared about the country he would be willing to honor the legal and constitutional process of certifying the election. But he doesn’t appear to care about that. Not one person or AI program that obsessively goes on and on about Trump this and Trump that has ever spoken to Biden’s lack of respect for the election process and the constitutional right and duty to secure the legal vote. It seems to be that they do not respect and value the very things they accuse others of not respecting. Ultimately if a candidate does not believe in a fair and transparent election they shouldn’t be allowed to get anywhere near public office.

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    • messianicdruid November 13, 2020 at 8:44 am #

      BAM!

  220. Kim November 13, 2020 at 3:19 am #

    Rudy Giuliani interviewed by Lou Dobbs about the origin of the Dominion machines.

    This is some of the more eyebrow-raising stuff I have heard so far in this farce of an election.

    Dominion’s ownership goes back to a company called SmartMatic, its principals being two Venezuelans with long connections to said government.

    Why did the state of Georgia use dominion machines? Because the lobbyist for dominion was the Chief of Staff for the former Georgia governor?

    One of the SmartMatic execs was also highly placed in Soros’ Open Sociery, Rudy says.

    Nice republic you got there. Be too bad if some people tried to corrupt it.

    But Rudy also says he already has proof of enough voter fraud to overturn both michigan (320,000 unlawful ballots) and pennsylvania (635,000 unlawful ballots).

    https://mobile.twitter.com/LouDobbs/status/1327024215887851521

  221. SoftStarLight November 13, 2020 at 3:23 am #

    Trey Trainor, the Chairman of the Federal Election Commission says the results of the presidential election as they are now are illegtimate due to fraud.

    https://neonnettle.com/news/13219-fec-chair-drops-the-hammer-the-results-are-illegitimate-

  222. SoftStarLight November 13, 2020 at 3:31 am #

    Dominion again! Interesting analysis by software engineers concludes that in just four Michigan counties as many as 138,000 votes were switched from Trump to Biden.

    https://leohohmann.com/2020/11/13/software-engineers-report-dominion-flipped-minimum-of-138000-votes-from-trump-to-biden-in-michigan/

    • Night Owl November 13, 2020 at 3:44 am #

      2.1 million nationwide.

      The truth cannot be stopped now.

      • Night Owl November 13, 2020 at 3:45 am #

        2.7 million

        German iPhone keypad strikes again.

        • Kim November 13, 2020 at 4:51 am #

          Just think, if they’d won the last war, you’d be typing in Blackletter script.

          • KesaAnna November 13, 2020 at 5:19 am #

            Mein Kampf was dictated primarily to two people ; Rudolf Hess , and a half – Jewish guy , and SS member number two , who rumor had it shared a girlfriend with Hitler , named Emil Maurice.

            After that , the manuscript was worked up into a document suitable for printing , by a Catholic priest ( whose name escapes me at the moment ) who later on the Night of the Long Knives was taken out and shot , for reasons still unknown 80 years later.

            My point here is that , yes , I suspect that if the Third Reich had won the war the big difference in how things would have turned out is that you would be typing in Blackletter script….

            …. and that is about all it would have amounted to.

            Swastikas would be popular , instead of stigmatized.

            Hoo hum.

  223. FreddieMars November 13, 2020 at 5:01 am #

    No doubt, this guy is a RINO and a Never-Trumper, and of course, it’s widely agreed that the source, FOX News, is a nasty turncoat network, owned by the Deep State. So, everything he’s saying is a lie! Right…

    https://youtu.be/P5PCZJxuvhY

  224. KesaAnna November 13, 2020 at 5:02 am #

    ” …. so I guess any system they have would deliver a bad result. ”

    — Mike Roberts

    Yes.

    That’s correct.

    ” Hey, why not just vote for a third party – it sometimes works in some countries. ”

    I suppose having to repeat yourself is supposed to be terribly annoying , but this is one of those cases where it strikes me as rather comedic and hilarious .

    In a state that spans four time zones ( not including Alaska , Hawaii , Guam , etc , etc , )

    there has been only two viable political parties for over one hundred years now.

    So it’s a pretty safe bet that what applies in some countries probably does not apply at all to this one.

    Or , really , just go ahead and assume the whole vote thing is just a Potemkin village.

    Go ahead and just write on your ballot , ” None of the above ” , then wipe your ass with it , and then mail it in.

    Doing that most certainly won’t do any good ,

    but it won’t do any harm , affect the outcome , move the needle a hairs breathe , either.

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  225. KesaAnna November 13, 2020 at 5:26 am #

    ” It is awe-inspiring what he is doing. He is – before our very eyes – exposing and destroying a national vote-stealing machine that is as old as Tammany Hall.

    And all you can do about it now is stand in a puddle of your own piss and bawl to mommy, “orange man bad”.

    Try to imagine how much I am enjoying this. ”

    Lol ,

    Yes , THAT is why I like this guy I otherwise would dislike.

  226. KesaAnna November 13, 2020 at 5:49 am #

    ” Tom,
    You sayin’ it all wrong…the correct verbiage;

    “Just because it happened doesn’t mean it’s true…” ”

    That’s why I still hang around CFN.

  227. Kim November 13, 2020 at 5:51 am #

    WRT the Georgia “hand recount” declared by Republican SoS Raffensperger, it appears that it is a scam.

    Yet again, this RINO is trying to orchestrate a steal.

    1. No signature verification

    2. Again not allowing sufficent numbers of monitors or sufficent access to be practically useful

    3. No arrangements for ballot security

    4. And so on.

    These and other objections are laid out in a letter from the Trump team to this slimy RINO.

    You can download and read the letter at

    Revolver: “Georgia audit appears to be fake”

    https://www.revolver.news/

    • Rupert November 13, 2020 at 9:45 am #

      What’s the point of a show-recount? Placate the rubes at home?

  228. KesaAnna November 13, 2020 at 6:09 am #

    ” The problem is that you think your words matter.

    All that matters is truth and evidence ”

    The truth and evidence was that Rome could in no way remain a Roman Republic when it stretched from Scotland to Arabia.

    The Romans at least themselves frankly admitted that the Goddess Roma was made up on the spot out of whole cloth because the ethnically and culturally very specific Roman pantheon simply didn’t resonate with Celts , Teutons , and Semites ,

    any more than Shinto shrines will ever work in Alabama.

    Janos ( ? ) is always pointing out , correctly , that the creation of the United States was not the outcome of a vote.

    The land was stolen , taken by force , from some brown people ,

    for the sake of White people and Protestants —

    — Except the Confederates were right :

    The U.S. government NEVER gave a shit about White people , or about Sola Scriptura.

    And it sure as hell doesn’t now.

    Indeed , now the White people are the Indians.

  229. Kim November 13, 2020 at 7:41 am #

    Just looking at a Democrat tweet thread discussing the abysmal D performance in the Reps. They know they could still lose the Reps. Seats have flipped in Cali and there are more to come.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1326362820771000322

    The Ds are really puzzled. They are blaming “socialism” and “defund the police”.

    The occasional polite R says, you know, Trump is very popular.

    They don’t want to hear it.

    But they are, in the background, worried about the Presidency. Sure, they aren’t watching NewsMax, but the message is trickling through to them on twitter.

    It was a mistake not to shut down the internet until January.

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  230. snagglepuss November 13, 2020 at 8:19 am #

    Ending the blame game
    Indigenous people are living in Third-world conditions. — Avi Benlolo
    National Post (Latest Edition)13 Nov 2020Peter Shawn Taylor
    In the wake of the United States election, who still thinks identity politics is both a reliable indicator of voter loyalty and a sturdy tent pole for the entire political grievance industry?

    President Donald Trump’s unexpected success with Latino voters in Texas and Florida, for example, suggests members of this group widely ignored their supposed collective duty to oppose the president on immigration. One in three Black men in the Midwest also voted for Trump, again in conflict with their alleged best interests. In California, voters defeated an attempt to revoke Proposition 209, thus ensuring racial identity cannot be used as a factor in the university application process. And given the overall closeness of the contest, president-elect Joe Biden’s embrace of the tropes of Black Lives Matter and the Green New Deal clearly failed to electrify the electorate.

    Yes, Trump lost. Perhaps deservedly so. But a review of the entrails of Biden versus Trump suggest big problems on the horizon for anyone who thinks they can neatly divide the electorate into victim and oppressor based on claims to historical or current injustices. Allegations that society is riven with racism, oppression and colonial/genocidal tendencies have become ubiquitous on both sides of the border of late; as have efforts to pit different groups in perpetual conflict with one another. Now it appears the appetite for such identity wars may be waning. Perhaps science can explain why.

    Intriguing new Canadian research in social psychology suggests an incessant focus on decrying the sins of the past via repeated accusations, apologies, statue removals and other performative acts of citizenship can actually make things worse by reducing broad- based support for more practical measures. This suggests the best way forward is not to repeatedly berate certain groups ( i. e., white men) for what their forebears might have done, but to encourage a shared sense of accomplishment going forward. Using identity politics as a cudgel isn’t the path to a better future.

    In an academic study published last year, business professor Ivona Hideg and psychologist Anne Wilson, both of Wilfrid Laurier University in Waterloo, Ont., investigated how to build broad support for employment equity programs meant to advance women in the workforce. To do this, they ran several experiments in which the subjects, mostly undergraduate students, read varying descriptions of the changing role of women in society, after which they were asked whether they supported a proposed program meant to enhance job prospects for women. Some of these snapshots emphasized overt gender discrimination from the early 20th century when females were not allowed to vote or own property. Others focused on the progress made by women since the 1970s.

    The results reveal a striking difference in how men and women react to reminders of the past. Presented with guilt- inducing examples of gender discrimination from the early 1900s, male respondents proved much less likely to support present- day remediation policies than their counterparts who were shown more recent and less pointed information. Female responses did not vary in this way.

    “Although the history reminders were meant to invoke support for current policies, we found men who were presented with instances of historical injustice against women tended to deny the extent of presentday discrimination and demonstrated less support for employment equity policies,” Wilson said in an interview earlier this year. Such a reaction, she argued, is consistent with psychology’s social identity theory, which states that individuals derive their sense of self-worth from belonging to groups demarcated by gender, race, religion, politics and other tribal connections.

    Social identity theory predicts that an attack on one’s group — including claims of misconduct by long- ago members — will trigger a self- protective response to deny or deflect. Further experiments found a link between low self-esteem among male subjects and low support for programs that address gender discrimination. “The use of history can backfire by eliciting defensiveness among majority groups,” Wilson concluded.

    We ought to consider this a significant result with applicability far beyond gender issues. Repeatedly hammering a dominant social group, be they males, whites, settlers, etc., for a litany of past sins appears to be a poor choice of tactics if the goal is to build universal support for programs meant to remediate present-day inequities. A more solicitous and even- handed approach to history — highlighting progress and problems in equal measure without casting blame — seems better suited to success.

    Even if you tend to be dismissive of social identity theory, experiments involving undergrads or employment equity programs in general, these findings should still make intuitive sense. You’ll always get farther with honey than vinegar. Beating your enemies senseless over past crimes is unlikely to do much good. It’s also plain wrong, as Canada’s history properly contains much more to celebrate than lament.

    Nonetheless, a Manichean version of history is clearly the preferred perspective among perpetually outraged groups. The notion of a clear delineation between good versus evil supports the idealized victim/oppressor narrative that drives Black Lives Matter, the New York Times’ 1619 Project, as well as the bulk of Indigenous issues in Canada and nearly every other claim to injustice made today. While it may be pleasing for claimants to hammer away at their alleged oppressors, it’s probably undermining the ultimate goal — a more equitable society.

    “It’s not enough to say that one particular group has been bastards since the beginning of time and still are,” said Wilson. “It is counterproductive to treat dominant groups that way, especially since they still have a fair bit of power to make change.” From a purely pragmatic point of view, nothing is likely to get better unless and until the majority agrees it should. Blaming this group’s ancestors for an unrelenting litany of sins, legitimate or not, is unlikely to put them in a mood to help over the long-run.

    You can either fight old battles with old stories. Or you can put the history wars and identity politics aside and focus on making everyone’s future better. At least, that’s what science has to say about it.

    results show striking difference in how men and women react to the past.

  231. Honey Process November 13, 2020 at 8:41 am #

    Biden Wins Arizona

    An unmentionable among this august group.

    The National Crybaby won’t speak to us

    …he is mad. Rudy can’t make it go away, The Butler can’t make it better.

    Meanwhile 150,000 new Covid cases and a leadership vacuum – a criminal dereliction of duty.

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