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Election update, 9:10 am Thurs Nov 4
Thursday morning and the election remains unresolved with the prospect of a long legal battle ahead. The most striking feature of all this is America’s failure to arrange a fair, honest, and coherent election system. Instead, we add layers of complexity that only increase the likelihood of failure and opportunities for cheating. But remember, one of the hallmarks of the long emergency is the federal government’s growing impotence and incompetence to deal with anything.
As for red flags, we have the 4 a.m. Wednesday morning dump of 131,000 votes, all for Mr. Biden, none for Mr. Trump, emanating out of Shiawassee and Antrim Counties, Michigan, populations respectively 68,000 and 23,000. Some person in the chain there declared it was “a typo,” but the returns don’t reflect that the false number was retracted. A similar dump of 27,000, all for Biden, came out of Philadelphia, no explanation. And that was only the beginning of a Democratic Party wholesale mail-in ballot manufacturing effort that continues to this writing.
The Democrats have established a Biden “transition team” to lay on a veneer of legitimacy to their scheme, with the expectation that the mainstream media will amplify the idea that it’s over… but it’s not over. The Trump campaign has also declared victory in PA, Michigan, and other states that are supposedly still reporting. All of this is tending to the Supreme Court where some people are gonna have to do some ‘splainin’.
The chances are pretty good for all this to enter an ugly stage of violent intransigence, with Antifa / BLM mobs of Dem “allies” busting things up in Philadelphia and Detroit, to distract from what’s going on in the election district counting rooms.
The legal battles could stretch out into December when states have to certify electors, and if that can’t be resolved, it’s on to the House of representatives for the first time since 1876 (Hayes-Tilden).
Election update, 9:50 am Weds Nov 4
The election has rolled out as expected here – that is, not resolved the morning after, with Antifa and BLM rioters already moiling in the streets of Washington D.C.
Portland, Oregon, remains in continual uproar after four months of violence and destruction, and Mayor Ted Wheeler won reelection against “Antifa candidate” Sarah Iannarone. Lucky Portland.
Outside the swing states still in play, the margins were strikingly lopsided. Joe Biden’s radiant charisma worked in the usual blue coastal states — Cal 65% to 33%, NY 55% to 33% — but Mr. Trump’s margins were equally lopsided in the flyover red states — OK 65% to 32%, TN 60% to 37%, MO 56% to 41%. Mr. Biden won thumpingly in VA once the Deep State bedroom counties next to DC came in late at night. But the president won convincingly in FLA, OH, and TX.
For now, at 9 a.m. Weds, the race hinges on the usual suspects. Mr. Trump is up a half a percent in Michigan with 91% of votes counted; Mr. Biden is seven-tenths up in Wisconsin, with 95% in… awaiting Green Bay results (delayed, apparently, because a vote-processing machine ran out of ink (!). Similar close margins in NC… not so close in GA, with the president ahead a healthy 2 percent, and finally the dark maw of mischief, PA, where Mr. Trump was up by more than ten full percentage points (@700,000 votes) this morning, but awaiting more than a million mail-in ballots.
Let’s not forget the rather reckless remark made by PA Attorney General Josh Shapiro on Halloween night that “if all the votes are added up, Mr. Trump is going to lose.” Sounded pretty sure of himself. Now, as I understand it, the PA state supreme court ruled recently that counties could continue to process mail-in votes until Friday, and, more importantly, that they did not require postmarks or signature authentication — which would appear an easy invitation to simple ballot fraud.
The president vowed late Tuesday night to take a case to the US supreme court where, I expect, that PA ruling will be tossed out as self-evidently unsound. Can the forces of Dem Lawfare work around that? I don’t see how, but I’m not a constitutional lawyer. The Dems have worked hard in recent years to manufacture the inane and false narrative that any kind of voter-ID procedure amounts to “suppression.” America needs to get its mind right about that.
Does Lawfare have other tricks up its sleeve? I rather expect so, but the president has had months to plan his own defense against the threat of a Lawfare coup, so now we will see the game play out. Meanwhile, we await mayhem in the streets, condoned and encouraged by Joe Biden’s party, as though that will endear him to nation.
Further updates as required….
Historians of the future, pan-frying sowbugs over their campfires, will recollect in wonder and nausea the election of 2020 and the attempted controlled demolition of the USA by the Woke Rebellion and its incongruous avatar, Joe Biden, the Holy Ghost of Grift and Gaslight. All the forces of empire were arrayed in his support, as behind some sacred effigy of an obscure saint in a church processional, and yet all the voting public saw was a pitiful figure ranting at an audience of cars, an old dog barking pointlessly in a parking lot in the gathering darkness.
And then there was Trump… one word, Trump… no honorifics, as the Woke Legions spoke of the hated POTUS… Trump, who violated all their norms, threatened their perqs, and disputed their laughable identitarian shibboleths of racism, sexism, misogyny, homophobia, Islamophobia… the Golden Golem of Greatness summoning the deplorably un-Woke in their ghastly red hats from the hills and hollows by the thousands to hear him speak of “rounding the corner” and watch him do that charming dance thing to the disco tunes of his boomer youth, and the sheer high spirits of it all worked to dispel the Woke curse cast upon him by the legions of angry suburban wiccans, till we arrived at the electoral reckoning of November 3 — and then the real contest began.
Now what…? everybody is asking him, her, and theyself. Why should anyone believe the polls, given the craven corruption of all other news media branches — and polling is one of them, of course. The Biden family’s overseas “business” capers still smolder in the background, though, like a root fire in the piney woods, waiting to burst back into flame. Turns out the Chinese company the Bidens were courting as “partners” (CEFC China Energy) could not have been more obviously agents of the Chinese Communist Party’s intel apparatus. Even Hunter knew that — as his deal to build a natgas terminal in Louisiana with CEFC unraveled late in 2017. An audio recording found on Hunter’s fabled laptop has him speaking of CEFC exec Ho Chiping (a.k.a. Patrick Ho) thusly:
I have another New York Times reporter calling about my representation of Patrick Ho – the fucking spy chief of China who started the company that my partner, who is worth $323 billion, founded and is now missing. The richest man in the world is missing who was my partner. He was missing since I last saw him in his $58 million apartment inside a $4 billion deal to build the fucking largest fucking LNG port in the world. And I am receiving calls from the Southern District of New York from the U.S. Attorney himself.”
Mr. Ho ended up under indictment by the DOJ’s Southern District of New York for bribery and money-laundering. Hunter had volunteered to serve as one of Mr. Ho’s lawyers. Turned out the Biden family’s influence didn’t help much. Mr. Ho was convicted, served time in the same federal lockup in Manhattan where Jeffrey Epstein turned up dead, and was deported to Hong Kong in 2019. CEFC was soon put out of business by its sponsor, the CCP. But for all those sordid complications, the Biden family walked away with at least $4.8 million, funneled through a CCP shadow Company called Hudson West III to Hunter’s Owasco law firm bank account.
Oh, here’s a strange Swamp sidelight to all this: CEFC’s main exploit during the Biden hook-up years was the purchase of a 14 percent stake in Russia’s oil-and-gas giant, Rosneft, to help China circumvent US sanctions on Russia’s oil sales. Guess who was one of the lawyers working for Rosneft: Christopher Wray, just before he became FBI director. And guess who has been sitting on Hunter Biden’s laptop since at least December of 2019. Oh, the FBI. And guess what else: the Rosneft files have since been deleted by Mr. Wray’s old law firm, King and Spalding.
Now, the question is, will this hairball of grift explode into official proceedings following the election? We’re informed that the DOJ opened a money laundering investigation on Hunter Biden a year ago when allegations arose over his $85,000-a-month “job” on the board of directors of Ukraine’s Burisma natgas company, which plum, no-show gig ran from 2014 to 2019, netting Hunter millions. Is the DOJ also looking into the CEFC shenanigans? The DOJ had FISA warrants on the outfit through the Patrick Ho affair, however FISA predicates and evidence enjoy special legal status and can remain hidden indefinitely.
And, if by some mysterious act of God (or write-in ballot fraud) Joe Biden manages to get elected POTUS, how can he possibly be inaugurated with himself and his family tangled up in a grift case that involves the Chinese Communist Party’s intel service? It flat-out ain’t gonna happen. Mr. Biden will be forced to disqualify himself. Does Kamala Harris then become Acting-POTUS? There’s no precedent for a president-elect resigning before he is sworn into office. No doubt there will be lawsuits over this and they will lead post-haste to Supreme Court adjudication.
At the same time, also look for an all-out Lawfare assault on individual state voting outcomes and the translation of dubiously harvested votes into electoral college alt-delegations. Lawfare will bring to bear every legerdemain in the trick-bag of legal necromancy to work this scam in the Democratic Party’s favor. But they will not go unopposed by Mr. Trump’s lawyers. And what will it avail the Lawfare campaign, anyway, as Mr. Biden gets buried in allegations of criminal misconduct? And — not to lard the lily, as they say — what happens if, post-election and before January 20, Messrs Barr and Durham just happen to finally deliver indictments against the perps of RussiaGate? Oh, won’t this be a world-beating political mess of all messes ever? Think the stock and bond markets will love it?
Meanwhile, will we be treated to the extravaganza of Antifa and BLM burning and looting in the cities from sea to shining sea? I would ask: How might that not happen? They’ve been rehearsing for the Big Show all year. With new Covid lockdowns, the insectile armies of black-clad street-fighters will be anxious to reactivate the social space that Antifa and BLM so nicely afford. Riots are fun! Especially when the police are not allowed to effectively intervene to stop them. Smashing stuff, burning, and looting are fun — like Halloween and Christmas put together!
I’ll be voting for Mr. Trump tomorrow in my little bid to prevent the Democratic Party from getting its depraved mitts on the levers of government. I’ll chime in with a post-election-day update, right here on Wednesday, though perhaps not at the crack of dawn.
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I hope on Wednesday morning, we can all say President Trump won. But I suspect there are more idiots voting than smart people. This race should not even be close. What, a grifter with senile dementia is ahead in the polls???
polls, statistics, lies.
If ‘its’ fair, DT should win.
They need to say Joe is way ahead, in order to cry foul over a Trump win.
Yes Beryl – the “way aheader, the better”, for their argument to appear legitimate.
““Instead, we add layers of complexity that only increase the likelihood of failure and opportunities for cheating….”
Should read:
Instead, we add layers of complexity that only increase the Energy-intensity of what is called ‘democracy’ and the engine that runs the social contract – worldwide.
This is another demonstration that “In an Energy system, Control is what consumes Energy the most.”
There is no enough remaining fossil fuel reserves to keep this on-going whenever an election occurs in a nation across the world…
In 2020, our civilisation is clearly showing a scale-up problem against the laws of Physics!
Wail.
I agree, but in those Dem controlled big cities, they have a lot of fraud going on.
It’s never been in doubt that the ‘Dem controlled big cities’ would give Biden a big margin. It’s the battleground states that have to be watched carefully. Can the Democrats pull off fraud in North Carolina, Ariz., Florida, etc.?
Pennsylvania too.
That is a state that appears to be a must have right up there with Ohio and Florida.
Lots of visiting PA in the past few days by Trump/Biden.
A member of Congress in Western PA had his garage door spray painted red with a hammer and sickle emblem nearby, “Elections NO Revolution Yes”.
I think the results in PA this election will cause the most nail-biting and the possibility of “bad actors” acting very badly in Philly and Pittsburgh.
Yet I get the feeling Trump has his “internals” (polling) and this is why he has a spring in his step. He knows…..
A grifter with senile dementia indeed:
https://t.co/EFMRo7KCXn
And a plagiarist to boot:
https://t.co/ViAGer8lsh
Assuming, election or not, that the G.G. of G. will be denied a second term, it could be a good move, once the Dems have run the deck — Bureaucracy, Congress and Court — to discover the Biden shenanigans and boot Joe from office permitting Kamala to take over as POTUS, the P standing for “Puppet.”
‘Swhat I’d do if I were them and had sold my soul to the debbil.
As the grift unwound with a possibility of consequences, a case of the Sicilian flu has only become more pronounced.
Finally! Election Day.
The day we get to pretend we are choosing which criminal grifter or congenital liar will represent our interests before the Deciders who really matter.
Better a billionaire who fights for Anerica and the little guy than a fucking idiot with a law degree, hair plugs, and a record of corruption a mile long. Plus, a Trump win would piss off the Establishment and get in the way of the international corporatists’ plans. Which, of course, is what this is all about: America as we are, or America as just another shit show subsidiary of Globalist Inc.
Nicely put Uncle Bob. Nail square on the head.
Why is it that the richest, most technologically advanced country in the world can’t even conduct a basic civil enterprise like holding elections that are not rampant with fraud and have credibility anywhere in the world? Why is it that a country like Venezuela can conduct a presidential election while under attack by the richest and most powerful county in the Hemisphere and subsequently be internationally recognized as having the fairest electoral System in the world?
It’s not that different to understand.
The function of elections in the USA is not to provide citizens with the opportunity to choose leaders that will competently and wisely lead the people in their quest for bettering their lives and that of the planet.
Elections in the US serve essentially the same purpose as gladiatorial contests in Rome during the latter phases of that Empire. They provide champions to cheer on and teams to develop loyalty, but have absolutely nothing to do with furthering the interests of the vast majority of the citizen/subjects .
To be clear, the primary function of elections in the USA is to provide confusion and cover for the extraction of wealth by a few hundred trillionaire Owners— The Malignant Overlords that Bush II once correctly labeled the Deciders.
I decades past the election circus had historical roots that allowed it to produce a show that could reasonably be seen as fair if one suitably narrowed your focus. The people could easily look the other way as long as the system delivered some of the spoils of Global Empire and rape of the natural world to them.
By 2020 the electoral farce has deteriorated to the point the the Malignant Overlords don’t even have to pretend to conduct elections with a facade of fairness. They no longer must orchestrate a hanging chad circus or use voting machines that a 13 year old hacker can re-program. They can simply print a supply of mail-in ballots and store them in the closet for use if the vote count doesn’t go in the desired direction. And having done so they have no shame in dumping 100,000 “lost” votes into their candidates box and claiming that the opposition didn’t receive a single vote in the same time frame.
The manufacturing capability o the US has deteriorated to the point where it can’t even produce a simple thing like a N95 face mask. How can we expect it to produce enough orange jump suits for all the swine that deserve them?
Tis’ dreadful.
check out the trailer Songbird. a new film and the trailer came online this week.
it shows a United States that’s been destroyed by a virus called covid23.
I have contended from the start that permanent devastation of our economy will claim more victims than Covid will. In retrospect, the Horrible 2020 meme will seem grimly amusing. We ain’t seen nothin’ yet.
Nice writing, but depressing. I’ll be here The Day After.
I will vote for Trump as the lesser of two evils. Democrats have become zombies.
Well, I suppose that all of this could happen or none of it. If Trump should happen to win, will he sit on it for reasons of his own? If he loses, will he be prosecuted for reasons of his opponents?
I’m betting that this time the Dems will get revenge for Bush v Gore by “winning” this election some way or other and them effectively putting a lid on all the Biden Family scandal, effectively erasing it from America’s weak and faulty memory.
But I am hoping for another failed attempt to defeat the vulnerable and atrocious Trump to put a stake through the heart of the rotten and corrupt Democratic Party.
And I am voting for Trump tomorrow.
In a world with any justice, the Bidens would already be in cuffs. But if Wray and Fauci are still in place at the end of this week, that will tell us that the swamp is still in control and there is no justice on the way.
That is exactly right!
Many other criminals should be indicted too, other than just those two.
Unfortunately, even if Trump wins, none of them will be indicted anyway, but I hope that is wrong.
I am still wondering why Trump appointed Wray and Barr, and others…
It seems that already tells us that the swamp is still in control for now, but justice will eventually be given…
They are in a race against time, to take global control before too many people find out about their criminality and plans, and stop them.
I’m sick and tired of hearing the Coronavirus being called a novel virus. It was clearly created in a laboratory by the process of gene splicing four letters of the HIV code into the SARS virus genome. It is not “novel” but rather genetically engineered
Rather than being called a novel virus or the China Virus as Trump is fond of calling it, it should actually be called the Fauci Virus.
Okay, two things: 1) I think we’re becoming more and more like Italians in that we expect our politicians to be up to their eyeballs in grift and corruption; and 2) as for violence attending the election and its results, there is a study that warns of election-related armed violence by right-wing militias. But that’s just “fake news” because we all just hear only what we want to hear these days, right? 😉
Okay, we’ll ignore the antifa left-wing rioting we see in the streets every day of major American cities, and believe your study. Lol
Who said that would be fake news? There are extremes on both sides. Well aware.
The only ones who should fear right wing militias are BLM and Antifa.
How many right wing militias have shot up towns and looted stores in the last year?
Exactly zero.
With that said it might actually be time for people to dust off their guns and be ready to defend their families, friends, businesses, towns and cities.
That may not be Rightwing but it sure is RIGHT.
Calling the militias RIGHTwing would be RIGHT. As in correct.
@ venuspluto67
The “report” is by a group that calls itself “Militia Watch”.
It has concluded that militias need to be watched.
Thanks for that.
Remind me again, anuspluto67, how many city centers, how many stores were burned and looted by those boogeymen right-wing extremists?
We do not expect our politicians to be up to their eyeballs in grift and corruption. Most people still refuse to believe that reality, but more and more people are waking up and facing that reality.
No doubt there will be violence in the same big blue crap holes as before. Notice that all of the looting and violence has been in those same big blue crap holes.
if McCain or Romney had been President, some relative or family friend of theirs would have had the same job Hunter Biden had. That is just how the world works.
There are a number of people with high positions who have positions they are completely unsuited for, but they just happen to be the Presidents children and son-in-law.
There have been a number of riots in this country this year. I suppose Americans are impressed when someone goes on tv and says “I really don’t like riots”. I don’t like riots either! Maybe I should be President.
Remember Jimmly Carter’s brother, Billy?
And Clinton’s brother, can’t recall his name . . .
But those situations were outliers, actually, We did NOT expect the family of presidents and vice-presidents (and SecStates) to be on the take.
We did having a functioning antennae for conflict of interest.
That seems to have been flushed down the toilet by the Clintons and the Bidens.
It feels hopeless but I’ve already voted, for Trump. Didn’t want to count on the roads due to the snow so I dropped my ballot off at the town hall in advance; not gonna trust the USPS to deliver it for sure!
And yes, it seems unreal that so many would be voting for a grifter with dementia and his sidekick, who didn’t get anywhere in the primaries herself. but the hatred of Trump is so strong and the Dems determination to oust him at all costs, legality not necessary, so high.
We hate each other. Not dislike or agree to disagree, we hate each other. One another? Whatever. The tiny pie can’t be carved up any smaller. In fact, the pie has been stolen away and resides in someone’s hidden account in the Caymans or that fount of ethics Switzerland. If Democrats win, white males can kiss off the best universities, medical schools, dental, vet school, scholarships, military academies, fair treatment in justice system, fishing and hunting, and any endeavor where a minority or a female desires special treatment or interests. You had better try and find a doctor in their 40s. The new breed will be affirmative action babies. MCAT be damned. You wait. And, the government will ration care. All the Medicare people voting for Democrats are in for some serious shocks as in “die you MF parasite”. You won’t be able to come back to this site in a short time because Mr. HK will be shut down as will all others who did not, will not tow/toe the line. Pick your own toe/tow.
RB, I am on Medicare, which gets deducted from my Social Security account, which I’ve paid into for 55 years. Regardless of who I voted for, how does this make me a motherfucking parasite?
You don’t seem to understand the level of hatred in this country right now. The Left doesn’t care how many years you’ve paid into Social Security; they think your life is over, you’re nothing but a racist, or sexist, or misogynist and you need to fucking die. Your space in the healthcare queue is needed for the 40 million illegals we have in the country. You are a parasite because you are alive.
You are a parasite because you are White? Black conservative?
You are a parasite because you participate in the system. Doesn’t matter if you are black or white, conservative or liberal.
This is an attempted Marxist revolution. The old must be swept away, it’s heroes and icons destroyed, stability ended. If they win then the Left will determine the new. Who the leaders are, who lives and dies, how the remaining function.
There’s no money set aside. So payingolder, mostly white people means deducting funds from the government account that could be spent on gritting military contractors, intelligence agencies, and the like.
You’re a “parasite” because they pay out more on you now than you pay in. Read Nestor v. flemming: you have no earned right to SS, and the left intends to take it from you, since you’ve benefited from a racist system for years.
It has an internal logic. It’s wrong, but it has an internal logic if systemic racism has bestowed benefits on you throughout life.
What? There are a lot of Black and other minority Americans pulling Social Security checks. Including family members of veterans. So, not sure you are making sense.
The demographics of SS recipients looks like America in 1955, 65 years ago, only whiter, because blacks die younger (or at least they used to.) it’s a much whiter population than the people paying in now, and it’s defenseless against accusations of having benefited from systemic racism, which is unfalsifiable.
Does that clarify a bit?
” defenseless against accusations of having benefited from systemic racism, which is unfalsifiable.”
Dr, Tom,
Your premise is unsupportable, and is beyond argument or comment.
Trent,
Do not attempt to find logic in the premise.
Do not attempt to argue the contrary.
You will convince none other than the choir, to which we (mostly on this site) all belong.
Remain pleasant.
Remain mute.
Prepare.
USA gets MDs from India.
call ECFMG after you get the number online.
ECFMG, El Segundo, if the place is still there.
You can always get a doctor educated in the Indian subcontinent. Like this one:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-54759863
Two men have been arrested in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh for allegedly duping a doctor into buying an “Aladdin’s lamp” that they promised would bring him wealth and health.
As part of the con, they even pretended to conjure up spirits from the lamp, in line with the tale from The Arabian Nights, Indian media report.
The men had reportedly wanted more than $200,000 for the lamp but settled for a down payment of $41,600.
“pan-frying sowbugs over their campfires” Hilarious, They taste like lobster I’m told. Those crazy Easterners will eat anything. Fun starts at 6:10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54m4SDJiL6U
That looked horrifying and I really felt bad for the harmless bug.
Historians may someday say that a blind computer repairman changed the world. Imagine that/if the FBI (Wray) was purposefully holding Hunter’s laptop until after the election was stolen by ‘The Biden Gang’. Just how easy would it be to use the laptop to force Joe’s resignation, rather the alternative of an impeachment (without a guarantee of a pardon) ?
Just sayin’
Some are already saying that was the plan for Hunter’s laptop. The FBI was going to use its contents to blackmail and control the Biden gang, as they always do with every other politician who can be compromised.
That is why they were just sitting on it and doing nothing with it until after Joe gets elected. Now that cat is out of the bag, so that plan may not work, and I don’t think they would have used it to force his resignation anyway. It would have been used to control him.
Just imagine what the Chinese and Russians have on the Biden gang!
There are video interviews showing that they have MUCH more than was on his laptop. LOL
Thanks Jim – great original thoughts & content, as always. Much appreciated. Keep up the good work, but you may want to keep your head down & your powder dry.
Glad you’re where you are. Many other places won’t be nearly as civil. Looking forward to your thoughts on November 4th.
Locally, in my neck of the North Florida woods, I ‘ll be handing out free pacifiers, as I’ve promised for months now.
LOL! We are going to buy a bag of El Cheapo car wash towels to toss out the car window to the wailing Libtards at our local university campus here in town tomorrow night.
That’s about all of the mercy we will be inclined to extend to these wretched vermin.
Maybe too much of a tell, using the term “vermin” to describe others you don’t like.
When you consider who used to that term widely to describe fellow humans …. well, you might want to revise your choice nouns, unless that’s the message you intend. I doubt that it is.
Verses what, chumps, deplorables, bitter clingers, and ugly people?
Give me a break.
I vote for the term “useful idiots”, since that seems to be the most historically accurate term for them. LOL
@ Trent B
Maybe too much of a tell, using the term “vermin” to describe others you don’t like. When you consider who used to that term widely to describe fellow humans
Here is Haaretz referring to Jewish domestic terrorists who murder and torture Israeli Arabs as “vermin”.
The Israel Police was quick to label the murderers “Jewish extremists,” meaning they aren’t part of the herd, they are outliers, “wild weeds.” This is the police’s way of trying to justify a sin, to “make the vermin kosher.” But the vermin is huge, and many-legged. It has embraced the soldiers and other young Israelis who overran the social media networks with calls for revenge and with hatred for Arabs. The vermin was welcomed by Knesset members, rabbis and public figures who demanded revenge. Nor did it skip over the prime minister, who declared “Vengeance for the blood of a small child, Satan has not yet created.”
Godwin’s Law is a common gambit of
1. the stupid
2. the uninformed
3. the lazy, and
4. the desperate
There needs to be a no. 5, Kim-lad.
We need a descriptor for the kind of person who (a) denies the Holocaust, but then (b) invokes the Holocaust to a Jewish commenter to weaponise them against another commenter, whom he has also just slandered.
What do you think, Kim-lad? Would ‘hypocritical sack of shit’ cover it?
Not to my mind, really – it’s a whole other level of moral depravity. But if it’s all we have, it can be no. 5.
I am looking forward to your comments on Wednesdays JHK.
General question: should I reload some more 7.62 NATO ammunition just in case the craziness in the USA spills over into my part of North America, i.e. the Great White North?
If I were you, I’d suggest you work on preparing your garden beds for Fall and Spring planting. You can’t eat bullets.
Paul – A sad universal truth, not a truth I personally promote, but a truth nonetheless – he who has the bullets gets the vegetables, regardless of who grew them.
“… insectile armies of black-clad street-fighters will be anxious to reactivate the social space that Antifa and BLM so nicely afford. Riots are fun! Especially when the police are not allowed to effectively intervene…:
Mr. Kunstler,
“Insectile armies”…excellent alliteration.
We are all “Roof Koreans” now….
…Or imaginative illustration, if a stickler for “precise definitions…”
…Or imaginative illustration, if a stickler for “precise definitions…” – ely
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I am a stickler and “Insectile armies” is certainly not alliteration.
Q,
…How about “formidable formicating forces…?
“formidable formicating forces…?
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Nice allit and I learned a new word.
Jim: Where do I go to pick up a good supply of RAID Antifa & BLM spray? I reckon the bugs are gonna swarm out like mad come November 4th.
“Jim: Where do I go to pick up a good supply of RAID Antifa & BLM spray?”
Wizard,
I understand that WallyWorld has put them back on display….
The locusts have no kings yet advance in ranks – Proverbs 30:27
The universe is an orderly phenomena. And where no order is, order seeks to implement itself. Even “chaos” has an order all its own as does decay, of a society or an organic body, albeit a lower order of order. There is no real chaos except at the quantum level, and maybe not even there. At the macro level, many men have studied seemingly random events and found cycles, i.e, order.
Antifa is well organized which is a detail that our nightly news leaves out. This is about the riots in Portland on Columbus Day & will give you an idea of who’s going to be in charge —
“Activity began just before 8 p.m. when a group gathered near SW Naito Parkway and W Burnside Street. PPB said organizers advertised the demonstration on social media with a warning to independent journalists and live streamers to not to bring cameras or broadcast from the area.
This indicated that those attending were planning to engage in criminal behavior and were attempting to prevent the collection of video evidence that could be used to hold them accountable,” PPB said in a statement Monday. “Many in the group were wearing all black, masks, body armor, helmets, and were carrying shields. At its peak the crowd numbered close to 300 people.”
Yet somehow, we’re supposed to believe this is some kind of “spontaneous, grass-roots social justice movement.”
Here’s the link if anyone wants to read the whole story and see the pictures:
https://www.koin.com/news/protests/protesters-try-to-topple-statue-in-downtown-portland/
Soros is a conspiracy theory.
Nice walk away anthem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=202&v=ID7G4F0jssM&feature=emb_logo
That was a great song!
MMGA. Make Music Great Again.
Loved it! Thanks!
Not that any proof was needed, but the Hunter Biden laptop story demonstrates beyond doubt the perfidy of the corporate media. The only place I read a story outside of conservative websites and Fox News was a single story on p. 3 of my local paper 2 days after the scandal broke. If the fact that Rudy Giuliani and Steve Bannon were involved in this caper raises questions why doesn’t THAT make for a huge news story? How did the laptop come into the possession of the FBI and why did they sit on it during Trump’s impeachment over Ukraine? How did it wind up abandoned in a computer repair shop, and what does that say about factionalism and/or incompetence inside the agency? If the New York Times, The Washington Post, et.al. believe it’s all Russian meddling where are the non-stop front page stories?
They haven’t been able to arrange a meeting with Pelosi and Kamala to cook up a story so Russia, Russia, those damn Russians will have to do for now.
I’m sure you’re aware that Glenn Greenwald tried to publish a story on his own online magazine and ended up resigning b/c the person in charge saw it as anti-Biden and is saying Greenwald is being childish and “throwing an adult tantrum” — nothing more.
Just got back from my final “laying in supplies” run to the store before the election. Will be voting in person first thing in the morning. Car is gassed up for rural flight if things go downhill tomorrow night. Family Protection is organized (well enough I guess, I’m no soldier) in the event the nihilistic, childish mob decides to roll their way out to the burbs for some fun.
Sure hope the power grid stays intact. That’s my only major fear herer, is that some conencted idiots would actually pull that card and play it. The feeling in the air is not pleasant. First election I ever have experienced that truly felt ominous.
Used to be your guy lost and you’d say, “Ah, shit.” And then move on. Doesn’t seem so likely that will happen this time around. But I sure hope some level of common sense prevails. It just might?
Yeah, I was feeling pretty sad about just that. Up until this past election, people basically accepted the outcome. Only with the Trump win did we experience the utter refusal of Dems to accept his win and their determination to oust him from day 1. And now, the threat of riots if the preferred candidate doesn’t win or just because riots are so much fun for some. Sad.
MG. Sad, and dangerous and destabilizing as hell for our Republic. What is wrong with these people? Seriously. For well over two centuries the losing side took their lumps and moved on and behaved as a loyal opposition, not disloyal Bolshevik arsonists. These people are deluded if they truly believe that violence and intimidation can upend our constitutional republic. The Founders were no dummies. They gave loyal Americans a firewall to protect this republic from such shenanigans. It’s called THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
Kyle Rittenhouse has already provided these fools with a demonstration of the effectiveness of that firewall. They have been warned.
Trump 2020. No more bullshit.
Agreed on 2A, but I have to admit the thing I’m concerned about is the lack of citizen implementation of the other half of that wording. There are certainly some well-regulated militias out there, but mostly just a shitload of people with guns. Which is certainly better than a shitload of people without guns, when it comes to government overreach…but organization is rather important, and that takes time and effort (which most of us are not easily wont to sacrifice anymore). I see a lot of senseless, (in some cases) avoidable deaths in the event things spiral.
If it comes to it – the McResistance need be reminded that – paybacks are a bitch.
“What is wrong with these people?”
You answered your own question in the next line.
“…Bolshevik arsonists.”
The behavior of “these people” is betrayed by their actions.
They are NOT Americans.
They are Bolsheviks.
They loathe everything about America and Americans, which means you and me.
2nd Amendment? OK.
But that means being in a constant state of vigilance. Do we want to live like that?
I think all the rioters might be getting checks and boxed lunches. Probably most of them are completely illiterate.
But they can manage to read that ad on Craigslist looking for “peaceful protesters” $$
Look at this selection of Portaland antifa mugshots.
These people are not right in the head.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/09/08/antifa-mugshots-several-portland-rioters-released-without-bail/
This will be the mob funded (directly?) by George Soros, I suppose?
@ FreddieMars
George Soros’ usual method is to support destructive leftist activities by funding candidates in state Attorney General and local sheriff’s elections.
The quid pro quo is that these candidates, once elected, will then get with his program of endorsing or overlooking Antifa and BLM street violence and mayhem.
You can read about all of the details with specific dollar numbers here:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/sep/19/george-soros-enabler-us-street-violence-antifa-/
@ FreddieMars
George Soros does not always cover his tracks as well as he might.
https://dailycaller.com/2017/02/03/look-who-funds-the-group-behind-the-call-to-arms-at-milos-berkeley-event/
It is pretty pathetic that people still want to act like Soros funding and support for street-level leftist terror is some kind of “Nazis on the Moon” (did I get that right, lol) conspiracy theory.
You beclown yourself, man. Honk, honk!
Yeah, thanks, Kim. Washington Times, great source.
You asked about ‘wayfair’? Here it is (as if you don’t have a search engine too):
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-53416247
@freddie
My biggest hope for this year is people who do not believe Soros is actually funding and helping foment violence with groups like BLM and Antifa get an extra special dose of these two ghastly groups.
Front and center as they spray paint all over your neighborhood and stomp all over your plants leaving trash and ruin in their wake.
A nice couple hundred of them stomping around with drums spot lights and those damnable horns in soccer matches all night long for weeks on end.
A severe does of reality at the hands of the shock troops of stupid
benr – don’t get the idea that I SUPPORT anarchy & mobs. I wouldn’t want any group of such assholes trashing my place either and don’t wish it on anyone. I just tire of the “George Soros is paying these people” meme.
Nah, never gonna happen IMHO. Look at Portland Oregon and other sites that erupted over police killing a few men and pretty much all justified at that. Smart move thinking ahead and hope you and your family are safe.
If Trump wins, I am waiting for my libtard’s sister’s head to spin and fly into space. Now that would be quite a show. I read this morning about all the celebrities that are leaving if Trump wins. That would be nice too. However, they never seem to leave….
I hope that Trump wins and I don’t care to explain why.
Aw C’mon – I want to hear this from a towering genius like yourself.
I’ll not touch solid food until you come forth…
What towering intellect have you dazzled this site with?
None some insipid whining with zero actual reason as to why you whine so much.
You support a proven crook and whine about Trump being a crook.
I will go one further and say you support the worst America hating party in American history!
At least President Trump is not constantly denigrating the country he is in charge of unlike the complete POS Obama that has the drawing power of a slug at this point.
JHK did a good job is why, peaches.
I’ll do it for you.
It’s Trump or Bolshevik Anarchy.
See, life is simple.
Ah! Smart!
I voted by absentee ballot for Donald Trump because he’s the first president since Eisenhower to not start a new war.
A stunning yet valid reason to do so.
I’m no Trump supporter, but I do respect him for that. Or is that just because there are no places left for us to attack? Place we can get away with attacking, that is.
Lol good point. We’re kind of like the high school quarterback who can’t find another cheerleader to pursue.
Are you kidding me?
Iran
North Korea
Venezuela
Cuba
Sudan
Somalia
Just to name a few.
The Neocons have been itching to come up with a reason to attack Iran for something like 40 years now. And yet during Trump’s term in office the constant bleating about Iran being a terrorist state and an existential threat – seems to have been reduced to background noise.
Probably because they’re more threatened by Trump and spend all their time bitching about him. Either way – it’s good.
Plus the neocons almost instantly drifting back to the left has removed the wool from at least some eyes on the right about their true beliefs.
That’s another win.
No places left to attack? Tell that to the Venezuelans.
During Trump’s presidency the USA::
—Stole the countries gold reserves (on deposit in Britan)
—Sent a pitiful group of mercenary commandos to overthrow the country.
— Sponsored a CIA candidate (Guiaido’) who had never won an election and named him president of Venezuela.
— Sanctioned everything from gasoline to toilet paper and strong armed other countries to go along with the US economic warfare.
— Seized and stole incoming supplies on the high seas
— Seized incoming medical supplies
— Armed and trained private armies and the government of Colombia.
— Financed opposition political parties and terrorist organizations.
By the way, during the Chavez years (that would coincide with the fraudulent hanging chad presidential election in the US), Venezuela was internationally recognized as having the fairest electoral system in the world.
Speaking of Chavez, check out Oliver Stone’s documentary “South of the Border”.
Yea fairest as in only one person running vote for him or else.
I’m always amazed at people who stump for the doom of another country.
Chaves was the destruction of Venezuela a once thriving economy and vibrant country.
Spent a month there hanging out on the beach drinking Polar taking in the sites and sounds even went to the cave full of birds not bats.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cueva_del_Gu%C3%A1charo_National_Park
Met some super warm and friendly people.
Heard of Jimmy Carter? Didn’t think so.
Yes second worst President in American history right behind Barack Hussein Obama.
At least Jimmy Carter was a decent person who has attempted to help people well after his presidency and not just tried to enrich himself like Obama.
LBJ opened the floodgates.
1965
LBJ increased the war. Did LBJ start one?
I’ll be holding my nose and casting it for Trump. Can’t say I have a ton of faith in him, but the alternative is so much worse. Plus, it is fun to watch the Left squirm so much. Hopefully the censorship eases instead of tightens.
Wow! The Christopher Wray connection goes the emerging HunterGate scandal just bowled me over. Finally…..some solid evidence of why this cretin is constantly undermining Trump on behalf of the Swamp. I get more solid investigative reporting from Jim than I can find in all of the terminally ethically compromised MSM organs combined.
As for tomorrow, I will be voting for Trump. My girlfriend voting for a Trump. Her whole family voting for Trump. My mother and sister and brother-in-law all voting for Trump. Two close friends of mine voting for Trump. Several co-workers voting for Trump. Etc, etc. If I were to conduct a total survey of all of my relatives, friends, co-workers, acquaintances, I suspect that the total number of Trump votes would easily be over a 100 for sure.
I don’t own a crystal ball, but this just feels exactly like the weekend before the 1980 election when millions of Americans decided they had had enough of the feckless Jimmy Carter and the electorate lurched to the Right to put an end to his B.S. by elevating the Gipper to the presidency.
History, they say, does not actually repeat itself, but it often rhymes.
I believe that all of the shenanigans of the Democrats and their Hard Left allies in the MSM, Silicon Valley, Hollyweird, and in the streets with Antifa and BLM over the past 4 years are going to prompt a truly massive Red Wave at the polling places tomorrow as millions of Americans express their revulsion against these totalitarian wannabee by giving Biden/Harris and the whole Democrat Party the Royal Flush.
As we say in Alabama, “Round the Bowl and Down the Hole, Roll Tide Roll.
The Red Tide is coming on 11/3/2020.
From your lips to God’s ears.
Dang it, Duck! I was just signing in to say the exact same response, when I noticed your post 🙂
I can say it too tho:
From your lips to God’s ears, Wizard!
Robert C Cahaly
New @trafalgar_group #2020Election #BattlegroundState #NCpoll conducted 10/27-29 shows consistent Trump lead:
48.6% @realDonaldTrump,
46.5% @JoeBiden,
2.6% @Jorgensen4POTUS,
1.4% Other,
1.0% Und. See Report: https://thetrafalgargroup.org/news/nc-pres-1031/
Folks that got it right last time. At the electoral level we’re looking at trumpslide, with Trump going over 300. Not close at all. The real America wants Trump.
Scott Adams said a few days ago that polling is largely a business now like everything else. They get contributions from people in order to slant their results. They’re just more media now. And no better than Academia which had a sacred duty to retain Objectivity.
Correct. Most polls are “push polls.” Designed to attempt to SWAY Public opinion rather than to accurately measure it. Only a few polling organizations operate with integrity. Trafalgar seems like such a polling organization. People who follow politics closely are wise to the game and know which polls to watch and which to dismiss.
peoples_pundit, who has a great polling record, is a Trumper, but conducts polls which take the spin out of bogus and biased Democratic parameters. He says it all comes down to Pennsylvania, and right now it’s a 48/48 dead heat, but with all momentum going to Trump.
Polls are just a subdivision of the MSM and we know their relationship to non-biased information.
Finally the end of this horrid 4 years of perfectly ham-handed and criminal ‘rule’ by the worst office holder of any country anytime in history.
One of the sadder spectacles of this forlorn year has been watching the astute JHK slither off to the trump trailer-park. When that sort of thing happens we are truly screwed.
We held a very rambunctious Biden rally yesterday pretty much drowning out the pathetic trumpers with facts. They don’t normally truck in facts so were left stupidly mumbling nonsense about laptops and pedophilia.
Pennsylvania looks poised to do the right thing – oust this horrendous criminal and give him over to the Southern District. Couldn’t happen to a nicer prick than Donald J. trump.
Oy. So glad to see you’re still here, Ms. Demic.
Thank you for your cogent and impartial opinion per usual!
Actually, I think most would think that the prize for “worst office holder” of all time would be a toss-up between, Stalin, Mao, and Hitler. Two of the 3 operated under the Hammer and Sickle brand. The same brand, not coincidentally, that the Democrat Antifa goons proudly display on their riot helmets and shields.
Real tyrants aren’t shy about advertising their intent, you see.
Exactly. Hard to teach an adult why speaking in extreme absolutes is not a valuable debate strategy if they haven’t already come to that realization on their own.
“worst office holder of any country anytime in history”
love it
What would you call a president whose job it was to destroy the Liberal Deep State when he was elected by the public.
The worst office holder of any country anytime in history.
If you were a Liberal wokester, that is.
Pam Demic are going to join your compatriots and leave the country if Trump wins? As hopefully the Trump win will put a wooden stake into the heart of the wokester movement.
One interesting thing to watch is to see if Trump gets twenty percent of the Black vote. That would plunge the stake in even better.
Seriously doubt Pam Demic is even an American much less lives in our wonderful country.
‘Hard to teach an adult why speaking in extreme absolutes is not a valuable debate strategy’ MrMango
Mr. Trump has that appalling habit too. “You won’t find anyone in the world who is less racist than me” for example.
https://www.axios.com/everything-trump-says-he-knows-more-about-than-anybody-b278b592-cff0-47dc-a75f-5767f42bcf1e.html
Campaign finance: “I think nobody knows more about campaign finance than I do, because I’m the biggest contributor.” (1999.)
TV ratings: “I know more about people who get ratings than anyone.” (October 2012.)
ISIS: “I know more about ISIS than the generals do.” (November 2015.)
Social media: “I understand social media. I understand the power of Twitter. I understand the power of Facebook maybe better than almost anybody, based on my results, right?” (November 2015.)
Courts: “I know more about courts than any human being on Earth.” (November 2015.)
Lawsuits: “[W]ho knows more about lawsuits than I do? I’m the king.” (January 2016.)
Politicians: “I understand politicians better than anybody.”
The visa system: “[N]obody knows the system better than me. I know the H1B. I know the H2B. … Nobody else on this dais knows how to change it like I do, believe me.” (March 2016.)
Trade: “Nobody knows more about trade than me.” (March 2016.)
The U.S. government system: “[N]obody knows the system better than I do.” (April 2016.)
Renewable energy: “I know more about renewables than any human being on Earth.” (April 2016.)
Taxes: “I think nobody knows more about taxes than I do, maybe in the history of the world.” (May 2016.)
Debt: “I’m the king of debt. I’m great with debt. Nobody knows debt better than me.” (June 2016.)
Money: “I understand money better than anybody.” (June 2016.)
Infrastructure: “[L]ook, as a builder, nobody in the history of this country has ever known so much about infrastructure as Donald Trump.” (July 2016.)
Borders: Trump said in 2016 that Sheriff Joe Arpaio said he was endorsing him for president because “you know more about this stuff than anybody.”
Democrats: “I think I know more about the other side than almost anybody.” (November 2016.)
Construction: “[N]obody knows more about construction than I do.” (May 2018.)
The economy: “I think I know about it better than [the Federal Reserve].” (October 2018.)
Technology: “Technology — nobody knows more about technology than me.” (December 2018.)
Drones: “I know more about drones than anybody. I know about every form of safety that you can have.” (January 2019.)
Drone technology: “Having a drone fly overhead — and I think nobody knows much more about technology, this type of technology certainly, than I do.” (January 2019.)
Oh, I couldn’t agree more.
The problem is I was in no way talking about Trump in my comment.
We are doomed as a society if every point made has to be skewed to be political. Therefore, per what we all see daily online and in person, we are doomed.
MrMango
I know you weren’t – you were referring to Pam Demic. It’s just a shame your criticism could be applied to Mr. Trump himself, of whom (I gather) you are a supporter. I guess my point is about glasshouses & stones.
Gotcha, I misconstrued…carry on, sir!
Oh, and for the record I am not a Trump supporter, but he will probably get my vote over the alternative if I can actually bring myself to check the box when the time comes tomorrow. Basically just a reluctant shoulder-shrugger on the conservative side, and don’t understand much of what the Ms. Demics of the world are trying to get across anymore.
Biden rally
A liefest of incompetence given to less than 25 people.
She’s mad at Daddy. Daddy Trump is going to ground her. No smart phone either. Just books.
You have been watching too many Lady Gaga videos.
Did I see that rambunctious rally on CNN or MSDNC??
Nope.
Sad.
First and only rambunctious rally for Biden and everybody missed it, except you.
I am still waiting to see a link from her to anything about the”Blacksmokers” (?), a supposed gang of Trumpers whose hobby is to drive around in trucks producing volumes of black smoke.
Yes, that was what she claimed.
Terminal TDS
Pam, have you ever been to Venezuela? Do you have a few days free ?
Yeah, right. Funny your “rambunctious” rally didn’t make the news, especially your pathetic claim of drowning out Trump supporters. Nice try but I call bullshit unless you can provide proof (including time stamp evidence). Go sit in your safe space now.
I love the hysteria!
No, wait. I don’t. I just want the f***ing election to be over. I don’t care who wins, although I have to say that not being able to produce a candidate who could beat the odious Trump in a landslide does not speak well for the Democrats.
The bottom line is this country’s f***ed. Neither side has any desire — much less intention — of working with the other side to find common ground. And the powers behind the throne are quite happy to fan the flames of partisanship to keep the hoi polloi at each others’ throats while they make off with the loot. You know, the loot that the working classes used to get in a fair economy.
JHK used to understand this and comment on it. Now, sadly, he’s become part of the partisanship that is driving a stake into the heart of the country.
Helix– Apparently you don’t stand anywhere. In a time of crisis, I’ve chosen a place to stand and I’m not shucking and jiving about it. Would you take a stand on… anything? — JHK Admin.
With all the chaos it would be foolish to think that the rich have suspended their 40-year program to strip-mine the middle class. They found a willing stooge in the horrific trump, now they will have to figure out how to game the Biden folks.
The next few years will make or break the American Experiiment.
It is significant that the Rich have changed from supporting the GOP to supporting the Dems. WallStreet, Silicon Valley, Hollywood etc are 100% behind Biden. Trump represents the average working Joe who elected him in 2016. What a reversal.
You are foolish to think the rich support Trump and vice versa.
Well, as all New Yorkers know, the rich despise trump. He was always considered far too vulgar to be invited into elite society. Gold bathroom fixtures and trophy wives simply don’t cut it. You have to be somewhat cultured. Something the arch-vulgar trump certainly is not.
The detestable trump hates the working class. Every one of those ninnies cheering for this slob needs to know this.
So, who does that leave? Only his cult members.
You say that but you can’t prove that so all you do is attack Trump with zero proof.
Even if true he has still done more for the American people than any of your leftist stooges.
I just went in for a prescription and lo and behold the cost of several key drugs was way down I’m talking a couple of dollars and not $110 like before.
So we have all talk drama Obama that made peoples health insurance skyrocket verses Trump who actually did something.
See that I made a point and then proved it try it some time you propagandist POS.
Pam Demic seems to identify with the “cultured elite”. Pam Demic, you are a SNOB who seems to hate Trump voters because some of them live in trailers. The working class has been robbed of their rightful wages for 40 years now, at least. The economy has sucked for the working class voters for a long time now, and criminals like Biden, Obama and the Clintons are the cause, not Trump.
benr – what exactly has caused this dramatic drop in your medication?
Seriously, I’d like to know what Act/EO/regulation has caused this change? Do you KNOW, or are you simply giving Mr. Trump the credit because…Trump?
@freddie
You should do some research and then you will know as well.
Then maybe you can actually get on the Trump train and off the Democrat bumper car derby.
benr – okay, good advice.
So, I did some googling and came up with this:
“President Donald Trump has signed four executive orders aimed at cutting prescription drug prices in the US.
“The four orders I’m signing today will completely restructure the prescription drug market,” said Mr Trump, who has long criticised “astronomical” prices.
The measures would allow discounts and import of cheaper drugs from abroad.
Mr Trump will meet pharmaceutical bosses on Tuesday, but some industry analysts have criticised the move, saying it would not have much effect.
“This administration has decided to pursue a radical and dangerous policy to set prices based on rates paid in countries that he [President Trump] has labelled as socialist, which will harm patients today and into the future,” Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America said in a statement.
It said Mr Trump’s move was “a reckless distraction that impedes our ability to respond to the current [coronavirus] pandemic – and those we could face in the future”.
What’s this? SOCIALIST Countries????
In the democratic socialist west where there’s a ‘single-payer’ system of healthcare provision, there’s ONE body that negotiates the price for ALL the required drugs for that whole country/public health system. That gives the purchaser the power of volume.
In any case, you still didn’t actually answer my questions, and my googling hasn’t either. What, specifically, has dropped your prescription for $110 to “a couple of dollars”? That sounds like a several thousand percent reduction, which is harder to swallow than a handful of ‘Hairy Lemons’.
@rainmaker
“The working class has been robbed of their rightful wages for 40 years now”
To be fair if going back 40 years (at least), then you need to include Reagan, Bush 41 & Bush 43 in that sorry list of political grifters, do you not?
You’re a lying dog faced pony soldier! You mean you prefer THAT “cultured” SOB? LMAO at your hypocrisy.
The rich got rich by ripping off the poor. The Democrats want the looting to continue. BAU, baby!
@ rainmaker
The rich got rich by ripping off the poor.
Some did and some didn’t.
But we all got rich – where even the poorest in the USA doesn’t have to chop wood or dig a well – because of fossil fuels and now they are going away.
Wake up call….
The Experiment’s failed and that started a few presidencies ago.
The only question now is who’s going to end up with what after it’s all broken into tiny pieces, which is another way of saying with Biden the take down is quick while with Trump it’s more a slow motion, controlled demolition bankruptcy.
https://youtu.be/UU26H5iWbAo
What would you suggest he comment on? Not like it’s the day before an election or anything, perhaps we should discuss oil drilling in Alaska?
Having a political leaning position at any given time (particularly a presidential election) doesn’t necessarily denote blind partisanship. It can. But for most it just comes from the “this guy or dis fuggin’ guy” choice we are given.
He did literally comment on grift (making off with the loot) for multiple paragraphs in today’s post, didn’t he?
To argue (or work) together people need to share a premise. We could argue if the moon was made of green cheese, but only because we both accepted that the moon existed.
If you were traveling north and I was traveling west, we could compromise (for awhile) and go northwest. But there can be no compromise if you’re going north and I’m going south. Similarly, the visions of the Left and Right are diametrically opposite. There can be no compromise with those who don’t think America should exist, or with those who wish to change everything about it in order to rectify its essential evil.
Good statement!
After the election, when the first shots are fired, CW2 will be fought until one side is eliminated. Political wars never work, just kicks the can until the next blowup.
This is America or it is not. We will see who wins.
Spot on, John.
“How can two walk together unless they be agreed?”
The stake being driven was the refusal of Democrats to accept the outcome of a presidential election. The last time this occurred in 1860 we all know what happened next. Apparently modern Democrats are OK with the idea of possibly triggering. civil War 2 with this behavior.
As before said, anything including murder and maybe war for power.
It is the basis for much of humanity’s history.
Will the folks ever learn to not follow psychopaths?
shuck n jive is considered to be racist term.
He meant “cakewalk”.
Well stated Helix, I agree. Whichever of the odious con artist candidates wins, there is big trouble ahead. It’s hard to “take a stand” when both are so bad. Trump COULD have been a great president had he suppressed his ego, and tried to work with others for the good of the country.
I also agree that JHK has lost his balance. Yeah, Biden is a rat, and his kid even worse. But his fervent hatred of the Dems seems to have clouded his view of the other existential problems the country is facing, and of the Trumpmeisters flaws.
Trump, the bull in the china shop (pun intended) thought it would be neat to poke a stick in China’s eye. We see how they got their revenge on that. In any case, as you say we are f’ed, and whoever wins will be the designated bag holder. [I voted for Not the Trump to play that role.]
@JHK Admin re “In a time of crisis, I’ve chosen a place to stand and I’m not shucking and jiving about it.”
Are you kidding me? If anything, as far as I can tell, you’ve bought into the shuck and jive completely! You want me to take a stand when one side is led by a petulant buffoon and congenital liar who spends his nights tweeting to his mentally challenged base and enraging them against their supposed enemies, while the other side is led by a mentally challenged geriatric with a questionable background of grifting and supported by a left flank whose attitudes border on fascism?
No thanks. Here’s my stand. The only thing I want out of this election is gridlock. Not because I like it, but because I think that’s the best I can hope for. As far as the left-right thing goes, I’ve watched every administration for the last 50 years subordinate the interests of my countrymen to the pursuit of naked power and personal aggrandizement, some through naivete, some through incompetence, and some through malign neglect. I have every confidence that whomever is elected is going to continue our military adventurism, is going to continue to support policies that will hollow our our economy, and will continue to support policies that are only randomly correlated with the legitimate concerns of mainstream Americans but are oh so much in line with the interests of the corporate and wealthy elite. Now I’m supposed to take a stand for a president or a challenger who have both lowered the bar of personal conduct to the point that I think my friend Bob is a better candidate?
Not happening. What I want out of the next four years is gridlock in Washington and in the meantime a sincere effort on the part of at least one and hopefully both parties to develop candidates of stature and credibility and policies that reflect the interests of mainstream Americans. Maybe then I’ll have a candidate I can stand behind.
State Media has been fretting about what Trump would do if he lost the election, including some kind of junta, ala’ Argentina 1943 or some shit like that…
Calm down people, it ain’t happening.
Meanwhile, the actual seditionists are on the neo-liberal, corporatist side of government who held a DNC wargame a short while back that had John Podesta advocating for the secession of the western US coastal states in case Trump wins.
That would kick off an actual hot civil war.
350 million guns in the hands of a population that is clearly 40% mad.
You are right.
I’m gonna twist your use of the word “mad” to mean “angry” and not loony 🙂
Yes. 40% of the population, including myself, are angry that the CIA is running American foreign policy. 40% are angry that we are being spied on by the NSA. 40% are angry that multi-national corporations feed off tax payer funds, and collude with fascists like the CCP.
You ought to be angry about these things. Any reasonable, tax paying citizen ought to be.
Those 350 million guns aren’t going to magically start firing by themselves, you know.
If casus belli exists for a civil war, it’ll happen. I hope it doesn’t. I’m not some kind of war pornographer. Quite the opposite. Because the US civil war 2 would look much closer to something like what happened in Yugoslavia. And I don’t wanna see the types of shit that happened there– like a militia pulling everybody off a bus and killing all of them with sledgehammers.. because they were from the wrong ethnic group.
..and btw, I do agree with you that there are many loony people in the US. However, our definitions of lunacy will differ.
And that is just the Dems plus RINOs.
Do you honestly think that Dems do not own guns?
Foolish.
Most don’t and most hate the military.
Now it looks like many leftist also hate the police and that is not a good optic if they want a hot civil war.
“Mad”
Carghoul still has not figured out how to hide himself when returning after the 9th ban.
Big brain.
LOL.
People who spend little or no time at the shooting range would be well advised to refrain from inciting a civil conflict that would necessarily entail placing hot lead on target in a consistent manner.
Just sayin’…..
yeppers
People who want/advocate/fantasize about violence are often (maybe 90%) the least ready to actually effectively handle it when it occurs to them.
the other 10% are probably just sociopath/ psychopathic who enjoy violence inherently
I agree.
To me the top question is: How can we coexist?
The party of Biden is supporting things that would have been impossible even 10 years ago.
In addition to gun laws, his Democrats are already working to make it illegal to use force of any kind to defend yourself or property, to de-fund enforcement and the prison system, to eliminate laws that are ‘unfair’ to the poor, and to allow anyone to vote. And I’m sure this list is incomplete.
I have already voted for Trump and only Republicans on my ballet. The Democrats are toxic.
When What had formerly been British North America could no longer “co-exist” an incident called The American Revolution took place. In the aftermath Patriots lived in a new country, the USA. Loyalists lived in what would become Canada. Today Canada and the USA get along reasonably well, despite this history, proving that a house divided WILL stand. It’s called a “duplex.”
Or, putting it another way, good fences make for good neighbors.
America is headed for a partition, IMHO. I’m not happy about that, but it seems like the only way to resolve this short of massive bloodshed. Why not a political divorce? Like Czechoslovakia did in the late 20th century?
Or perhaps the greatest political achievement in human history: the creation of Switzerland out of French, Italian, and German areas, allowing them all to retain their respective language and culture.
Now degrading after centuries, now longer allowing men to keep ammunition at home, rendering their weapons useless and a mere mockery of their former freedom.
Since when?
Swiss former military are required to house weapons and ammo its their law.
They still have their rifles at home, but the soul has gone out of it since they can no longer keep ammo. They’re no longer citizen soldiers but just regular National Guard, American style – which means non-deployed, local military.
Voted republican all the way down the line except for San Diego Mayor only two Democrats on the ticket.
Voted for Todd Gloria who was mayor for 1 year and did nothing stupid.
Fuck Democrats they deserve to go into the ash can of history at this point.
Oh brother. Todd Gloria is a crook. When he started out he was going door to door and I met him. City council. Seemed to be a very nice guy. He got corrupted and sold out the interests of the community. Bought and paid for. Had to vote for Barbara Bry. Uniparty anyway.
Ending the electoral college, increasing the number of Supreme Court justices, changing election laws to include kids, felons, illegal immigrants… having senior democrat figures like HRC arguing for Biden to refuse to concede a defeat.. holding ‘wargames’ that strategize to counter a Trump win thru secession & military intervention, and is participated by democrat governors & campaign managers…..
these are all actions by one party in the US. There are videos of these ppl saying these things, and legitimate newspaper reports that these things are happening.
It’s not the repubs, ppl. It’s not Trump strategizing parts of the US to secede if he loses.
A country might be forgiven for falling under the spell of a con-artist once. However, if it doubles down and re-elects a disaster like trump, then it now owns this awful choice.
And the rest of the world, which has pretty much given up on America as any sort of ideal, will be perfectly justified in giving up on the US completely.
jesus christ man
who do you think Biden is?
not a con artist?
fuck
Sure sure – wail away.
Of course Biden is a con-artist
And a pedophile
He puts ketchup on hot dogs
His tire pressure is often lacking
He tries, but can’t warm up to cats.
All these atrocities.
He will lead us out of this trump swap with simple common decncy.
He gropes kids on stage, reveling in the fact that people are afraid to call him on it. Classic psychopathology. Imagine what he does in private.
Classic psychopathology. – Yo
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Proof positive that Yo is Sredni.
Q Anon, is that proof?
Since you are on a friendly basis with JHK, ask him if Sredni was banned.
Seems to run in the family. Hunter abused his niece, and Hunter was no doubt abused by Joe Joe.
Pedo Joe.
John Bigboote, you are the weakest (most uncool) individual I ever know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lMziXdvt8
You are such an idiot it really has become pathetic.
When Trump wins again please keep your bloviating comments to yourself.
You are supporting one of the most corrupt people in American history and the reason you are is simply because he is a Democrat.
“Common decency?” Are we talking about the same Joe Biden here? I seem to recall an incident with a female member of his office staff that involved the former Senator inserting his fingers into her privates without first receiving her consent.
There’s a reason one of his nicknames is Senator Badfinger.
The Biden is not a “decent man”. Pam, you have a serious case of Stockholm Syndrome.
So you equate pedophilia with putting ketchup on hot dogs.
You really are confused.
Ms. Pam. They’re all con artists. This is nothing new. I would posit that you are as well. They’re just good at it.
I’ll bet anything you are one of those insufferables who begins sentences with “actually…”
Swing at that pinata all you want – fatso is going down. Then hopefully going to jail where I hope he rots.
Actually…no, I’m not. Enjoy your day!
Actually go piss in the wind.
Actually, … see you here on Wednesday, Pammy! 🙂
Time to take your Prozac, Pam. Your gonna need it on election night.
Good! The rest of the world needs to take care of itself. We have put ourselves into 26 trillion in debt caring for the rest of the world and allowing the excess population To come here.
Build the wall!
Ah yes, the Wall. The famous Wall. The horrid trump’s crowning achievement (?)
We will need a wall if this unctuous shithead is re-inserted into the White House. One to keep Americans in.
Leave anytime loser.
MAGA making douchebags like yourself lose what little mind they had.
Gotta at least give you props for “unctuous shithead”.
Total bullshit opinion. Most of the world has gained new respect for the USA once again….including China and Russia because they know they can’t buy off Trump. And if everyone has given up on the ideal of America, how come we need a friggin’ border fence to keep them out? You are clearly a communist troll.
Hehe. James is a master of mythology and allusion. Great stuff, yet again!
Calm down people. Trump loses, Harris replaces Biden in May 21. She has zero ability to do anything without being told what to do. The Black Jesus HimSelf could not enact much of his agenda what with the various factions wanting their own scams dominant. Life goes on. We ignore any executive order we don’t like much as sanctuary cities are doing. 2nd amendment cities, counties, states etc. old dem power players vs sanders left wing vying for control and putting much effort into internecine warfare to their detriment, our favor. Focus on mental and (my favorite) physical fitness. NOTHING matters if you’re sick or too weak to enjoy life. For many on this site, 30yrs left at most. Be aware of transitory events that will only have as proportionate an effect as you allow. Laugh at how absurd life can be, but be an active participant in it. I find the more calm I am, the more pissed off idiots become. Be Very calm.
RaymondR: Before reloading more, have you ranged key terrain features 360 degrees? Identified major/minor infill routes? Hardened shooting positions in/outside house? Ammo is necessary but there is NO single item which will allow you to surmount attacks successfully.
Mental focus attained through hard practice with visualization of probable events of utmost importance. Nuff Said.
Great take on the situation. Most are focusing on the hordes they cannot control. This view is probably much better.
Dear Mr. Kunstler,
It could only be by trickery that Mr. Biden can be elected? Hmm. So the polls are wrong. And if Mr. Trump can only be elected by finally invoking delegations in the House of Representatives with another 2000 like SCOTUS deal you will say that justice is done? That is one mighty closed hermeneutic circle you got going there.
Your prognostications about Mr Biden have been wrong, usually within a news cycle (e.g., debates?). You were confident last week that Mr. Trump, would win. I don’t think so. I don’t think this is 2016 happening again. Mr Trump will lose. The only question is whether Republicans also lose the Senate.
I offer a civilised bet. We each pick a book. The winner gets to decide which of the two books we agreed to read gets studied. We engage the material. I pick Khalil Gibran Muhammad, The Condemnation of Blackness: Race, Crime, and the Making of Modern Urban America, for your consideration. Please choose yours. After the election, if Joe wins, I choose. If Trump wins, you choose. And if the country dissolves into civil war, than we can call the bet off. What say you, Mr. Kunstler?
PS. I haven’t been able to get on as abcdef–for some reason my password or any new variant I have tried to create hasn’t been accepted by the website.
“PS. I haven’t been able to get on as abcdef–for some reason my password or any new variant I have tried to create hasn’t been accepted by the website. ”
Ran out of pw post-its to put on your monitor?
And I certainly wouldn’t take that bet. That book sounds very uplifting.
To Freddie and Kim,
I added two comments to the prior thread that involve youz two. Their time stamps are 11:28am and 11:37am.
Jim, your rants about the evils of the democratic party and its cast of coruptibles is generally well done if not a bit hysterical but I think you are delusional in thinking that they are worse and pose a greater danger to what’s left of the republic than the equally dangerous trump catastrophe. I really don’t know how this newfound obsession of yours got out of control. Perhaps it had to do with the metastasizing chromium,molybdenum or cobalt circulating in your brain after the botched hip arthroplasty you experienced. I have all your books on an honored space on my bookshelf including your latest but I am a little dismayed by the latest rants and announcing you will vote for the deplorable in chief as a lifelong democrat from NYC. There are far worse things facing this country than which corrupt president is elected under a completely irrelevant and undemocratic electoral college system and you formerly addressed those issues in your excellent “The Long Emergency.” I think one can make the case that a Biden presidency would be to be bad but the only thing worse in my mind would be a trump one. It sounds like you prefer corrupt republican chaos to whatever Biden will bring in. Maybe you are subconsciously wanting Trump in to generate new ideas for novels along the lines of your ” world made by hand” series.
Nothing of what you have written makes sense or evidences sincerity. You should be in the street with the riot creatures. They might mistake you for a thinker.
This election is no different from the last 40-or-so years. It has always been about the lesser of two evils. The Republican and Democrat parties (Trump and Biden) are both insanely corrupt, what with all the money laundering, lobbying, conflicts of interest, you name it. This is why I will be voting third party as usual, all across the board, even if it makes no difference. Until we break this cycle of corrupt bipartisanship, we are going nowhere and fast. Jim’s partisan obsession is odd indeed. Elise Stefanik, our rep from NY-21, is one of the biggest corrupt tools. Look at her top donors (Wall Street, 75% out of state), and she was a former lobbyist herself. Kunstler, I implore you not to vote for her if anything. Write yourself in as congressman.
Jim is right and you are wrong. The choice in this election is between 244 years of ordered liberty or the Brave New World of Woketardist Tyranny.
If you hate liberty so much please, by all means, hop on the next flight to North Korea and request political asylum when you land. I’m sure you will fit right in there, comrade.
hugho, the fact that you either don’t understand the genius of the electoral college or that you do but don’t support it, means you are not to be taken seriously.
Sitting around a fire eating sow bugs may happen a lot sooner than one thinks.
I’m looking forward to tomorrow because finally the shit show begins no matter who wins, and we no longer have to guess about the nature of what is going down.
I am looking forward to a day without political ads.
I don’t know about you but i’m kinda looking forward to Biden as POTUS. He’s beginning to remind me of the character “the world’s oldest man” played by Tim Conway on the Carol Burnett Show. Damnit, we need good comedy these days. 😀
It doesn’t get much better than this LMAO !!!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8905253/Election-2020-Joe-Biden-suffers-senior-moments-Michigan-rally.html
“During the rally itself, Biden also appeared to stumble over the word ‘healthcare’ while lining up a shot at the newest member of the Supreme Court – a Trump nominee – Amy Coney Barrett.
‘Donald Trump thinks health care is a privilege, Barack and I think it’s a right to have badakathcare,’ he said.”
Biden has always had a stutter, who cares? I just watched one of Trump’s rallies the other day and he says a lot of, well, nothing, throughout his rambling. Lots of self-pity. They’re both way too old to be president, and we need an age limit at around 65.
@ sdf
They’re both way too old to be president, and we need an age limit at around 65.
Why make a law? If people don’t want old guys, they won’t vote for them.
On the other hand, what is needed by way of age limits is to raise the voting age to 28.
There has been agitation by some of the usual suspects (subversives) to lower the voting age to 16
http://vote16usa.org/ is a spinoff of a group called https://generationcitizen.org/.
Visit the website of Generation Citizen and you wiill see the usual “solidarity fist” symbols along with teacher and student workshops and lesson plans for training young people in how to become “democratic change agents”.
The number of these subversive cookie-cutter communist and globalist groups – mostly aimed at very young people – and the amount of money they have and their professional organization is just incredible.
Pelosi supports it, of course.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/434115-pelosi-says-she-backs-lowering-voting-age-to-16
28? What the hell are you smoking? There is no scientific basis for that.
After 65 (ok 70) at least their is evidence of general cognitive deterioration.
there*
Yes there is: the brain isn’t physically mature until 25 or so. And of course even that doesn’t mean the person is mature and using it well.
Fewer, better people voting would be a win for all of us.
@ sdf
28? What the hell are you smoking? There is no scientific basis for that.
At What Age Is the Human Brain Fully Developed?
While no specific age has been identified as the age at which the human brain is fully mature, the Washington Post relates that many scientists agree that the brain does not reach maturity until at least the mid-20s. Some studies suggest that the brain continues to develop into the early 30s.
https://www.reference.com/science/age-human-brain-fully-developed-b909a4ffd8d4f75d
I will leave it to you to read the rest of the article. Not that you should need to. Your life experience should tell you that people do not mature until their late twenties.
I think 28 is still too young to vote. If someone can’t be president until the age of 35, then 35 ought to be the voting age. If someone isn’t mature by 35, they never will be.
I agree that 65 should be the maximum presidential age – or maybe 68.
Another requirement, someone has to be a property owner to vote.
I am not at all against some kind of property qualification.
Oh Kim… Plenty of people after 35 have not fully matured. “Your life experience” should tell you that.
And this property owner requirement is beginning to sound like Make America Antebellum Again.
Let’s just try to get through the motions of another awful election again, so we can continue prepping and stocking supplies for the Long Emergency.
All the Media Agents are here tonight.
Sdf and co. are sweating bullets.
LOL.
What is your weird obsession with commenting on everything I say? I’m not sweating at all. No matter who wins it will be a big dissapointment and one major step closer to the Long Emergency.
Vietnam
Remember that country? The one we invaded in our sanctimonious meddling in their civil war. The ones the psychotic Curtis LeMay wanted to bomb into the Stone Age? They of the lampshade hats and black PJs? Ring a bell?
They have 97 million souls in some of the densest urban areas in the world.
They have had 1140 Covid cases since the pandemic began. And a heroic 35 fatalities. Total.
The US is experiencing 35 fatalities per hour.
Hmmm? Perhaps leadership had something to do with that?
The US is NOT experiencing 35 fatalities per hour. The US IS EXPERIENCING 35 LIES TOLD BY THE MEDIA PER HOUR.
Yes yes – then there is this element.
I refuted your ridiculous comment on this the other day.
What about all of Europe you dunce is that ALSO a failure in leadership?
How about all of South America is that ALSO failures in leadership?
What we have here is a failure in your propaganda and in that rotted grey matter you call a brain.
US – 4% of the world’s population -21% of the world’s fatalities.
A statistic bulletproof from even the dullest trumpers.
A statistic built on lies of course you know this but it does not fit with the narrative you are for what ever reason attempting to build.
Which means you are nothing but a dirty propagandist out to do what?
Tarnish the Presidents image?
I got news for you plenty of other people are attempting it as well and they are far better at it and smarter as well.
I know of two people in my circle of friends that lost someone and both died of different reasons and both were called covid deaths.
One died as a result of an operation gone bad sent home to recuperate and she got a massive infection which killed her.
She was sent home out of fear of her catching covid had she been in hospital they would have caught her problem and she would likely be here today.
The other death was a heart attack from congestive heart failure and had nothing to do with covid but they blamed covid anyway. He had a bad heart valve which needed to be replaced but they were waiting to do the operation because…you guessed it they were afraid he would catch covid and die of it.
You get the dunce award again.
If you believe the official Communist state propaganda issued by the Vietnamese Communist Party about COVID-19 impacts in their country…..well, you truly are a special kind of stupid.
Yes, we can never believe those godless heathen Commies, can we?
‘Murica! We’re #1
CDC: Fewer Than 10,000 Americans Have Died From COVID-19 Alone
https://thenewamerican.com/cdc-fewer-than-10-000-americans-have-died-from-covid-19-alone/
I recant – all those 230,000 souls are really here! The undead are aloft!
Donald J. trump is the new modern hero! I recant everything.
Yeah, Cuomo in NY, Murphy in NJ, Witless in MI…
Again, total bullshit. When the USA stops counting motorcycle accident deaths as Covid deaths, then you can quote death stats. Until then you haven’t a clue of what you’re talking about (although President I is very proud of you). STFU.
Xi
How does Joe get inaugurated when he and his family are up to their nuts in Chinese money, not to mention Ukrainian moolah, and who knows what else?
How does the American investigative and intel apparatus avert its gaze when the Potus-elect looks to be thoroughly compromised by way of these associations?
Well, in the first place, the Davos Class and the Donor Class, that is to say, that handful of billionaires that own the outstanding stock of the Fortune 500, are all in it together with the Bidens. The men in Beijing have them all by the short ones because of the idiotic misapplication of some farcical economic theory cooked up to justify the exportation of the guts of America’s industrial might to China.
It helps to know who ultimately gives the orders. I would say that it’s a matter of serene indifference to Beijing which American puppet sits in the Oval Office so long as Chinese oligarch interests aren’t threatened and the same with the Chinese Communist Party. Trump threatened the status quo. He stirred things up. So, can’t have Trump. That much is obvious.
What about Biden? No worries about Biden. Biden will rule unmolested because the Chinese want it so, because American oligarchs have to keep Beijing happy to keep their fortunes intact, because the American Deep State will ensure it, having bamboozled itself through generations-long indoctrination about how things are and how things have to be, and bedazzled itself about American supremacy and their own grandeur at the center of it.
But mostly it’s about money and power. The oligarchs fund American politicians. In turn, American politicians enact laws that extract money from ordinary citizens by way of taxes, and with this money they hire soldiers and cops and spies to safeguard both the oligarchs and themselves. It’s a symbiotic relationship, something like Taibbi’s vampire squid, sucking America dry. That they work against their own interests and America’s national interests seems never to have occurred to them.
And the voters? What’s the matter with Kansas? Nothing wrong with Kansas, Kansas woke up and isn’t buying Repblican bullshit anymore as K-dog so aptly put it. I don’t know what to say about people who vote Democrat, especially about non-white supporters. What’s the matter with them? Don’t they know the Democrats work against their interests?
Meanwhile the Chinese take the Amazon Rain Forest.
Wednesday November 4
The day Covid becomes a non- issue. No solutions!
Biden’s fixes are a joke. His ad:
Increased testing uh, does what to stop the virus?
Put the pandemic office back in, it never left just reduced when there was no pandemic.
Insure Obamacare stays in business, okay.
Nothing to really address the issue of transmission.
Lockdown, now we are talking right? Without an economy in six months, who cares whether the virus is around ,or much of anything else.
The Dems have used Trump’s minimal response to Covid against him, successfully. Now, if Biden wins, you will see no difference as mission impossible hits the Dems responsibility.
Familiar with New Zealand at all?
Their PM – a true leader if there ever was one recognized a crisis in the making and chose to “go hard and go early”
The result? NZ has fared far far better than most of the world. I won’t even compare it to the US experience – where the Hoosier Snoozer is head of the task force. Please.
There are examples of effective leadership around the world. Unfortunately, not in the US right now.
Joe will fix all this.
I hope your last sentence was intended as a joke.
History will see Joe Biden as the savior of the US Experiment.
There will be a monument to Joe. Avenues will be re-named. A new baby-boom with a bumper crop of little Joes.
A new Golden Age.
At least now we know you aren’t serious with your comments. That was indeed a good one. Here all this time I thought you were an angry TDS-stricken troll. Turns out you have an end-around dry wit, just took a while to see it. You had me fooled! Go Cap’n Joe, go!
50 years in DC, what of note has Biden accomplished? Now all the sudden at 78 years old he’s the Messiah here to establish a New Golden Age in America? Streets will be named after him? ahahahahaha! The guy is a political hack suffering Stage 3 dementia … not Caesar Augustus.
Brh
First thing you’ve posted that made me laugh. No way I could keep a straight face when confronted with the utterly absurd. Bravo!
Ms. Pandemic
A new golden age indeed. One in which blonde little girls get pregnant just by having hair sniffed by the Ancient Seer.
As long as New Zealand stays isolated for good there strategy will work
Their
Wrong answer – but typical party-line nonsense.
The US is effectively isolated now. Canada doesn’t want us. Mexico doesn’t want us. The US passport is only good in Paupau New Guinea
We are alone. With Donald J trump at the helm. A fucked nation under God if ever there was one.
Joe will fix all this.
Why is it everything you post is a lie?
Mexico is all about using the US as a pressure relief valve for their failed third world Narco Socialist state.
If not for the US the Mexican people would have overthrown their corrupt ass government.
Mexico is completely infected with Covid 19 and is shutting down even more as we post.
You gotta be kidding me. Joe can’t even fix his syntax.
their not there.
Wolfbay,
Don’t believe all the global MSM on NZ’s PM Jacinda walking on water with her pencil-neck team of central planners.
We’re racking up gov debt like crack heads with a diamond credit card.
Isolation is like trying to hold your breath forever. Only thing worse would be involuntary beta vaccines. But true, we are winning in the race to the bottom, for now.
Not complaining, glad to be here. But don’t paint it with too broad a good news brush.
To quote Biden “shut up man.”
You use New Zealand as an example?
330 Million people plus 40 million illegal aliens running all over and then compare New Zealand who has no where near the amount of illegal aliens invading their country?
Again you show you pathetic ability to actually debate.
Who is feeding you these worthless talking points?
You should fire them and give it up.
Post about the weather or about your day your political posts are flat and getting flatter.
Hmmm… ok since scaling NZ is beyond your Ken how about Vietnam? 97 million and 35 fatalities. The US 320 million and 240,000.
I’ll give you a day to process that one…
Sound like you’re not watching enough Sky News Cargill.
^ Bingo!
Clearly Cargill trolling in drag
What are the obesity rates?
How much are the deficient in Vitamin D?
Again a country no one is breaking into with a totally different diet.
Nope wrong again on all counts.
How about the fact rates of infection are skyrocketing all over Europe are those failures in leadership dunce?
Honestly you come off as so stupid it really is sad.
Obesity rates
“How much are the deficient in Vitamin D?”
Who can even begin to respond to such a superior set of arguments?
@pan
Not you and the why because it goes beyond your pathetic programming to do so.
Pathetic just pathetic.
In the nick of time to prove why Pam Demic may be the dumbest propagandist of all time.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/uk-scientists-are-pushing-to-get-vitamin-d-added-to-bread-and-milk-to-fight-covid-19-here-s-why/ar-BB1aCLik?ocid=msnews
” ^ Bingo! Clearly Cargill trolling in drag”
Phew, thanks for pointing that out…knew it had to be somebody familiar and rather maddening from the blogpast.
New Zealand is run by a lunatic feminist kook with a long history of mental disorders. I’ll pass on such “leadership.”
I suppose it has never dawned on you that living on an isolated island nation with a tiny population, located in one of the remotest corners of the planet might have more to do with NZ’s infection rate?
I guess not.
There is a reason billionaires go there to build their doomsday survival bunkers and it has absolutely nothing to do with New Zealand’s wacky PM.
Please you are trying to apply logic to someone who is here to push an agenda not get at the truth nor have a reasonable discussion.
Pam Demic is a Buffon of the lowest sort.
“New Zealand is run by a lunatic feminist kook with a long history of mental disorders.”
That’s quite a ballsy statement to make, Wizard.
“Lunatic” is an opinion (even if entirely uninformed), as is “kook” (likewise).
But please provide evidence of the “long history of mental disorders”, or withdraw the smear.
Nothing Wizard? Surprise, surprise.
LIAR.
Just making shit up,,,starting your Campaign for 2024?
He probably meant “long list” of mental disorders, starting with grandiosity and megalomania and compounded by being a compulsive liar.
@ FreddieMars
Re Why Ahern is insane.
Because, to start with, there is no deadly pandemic and she knows it.
The whole thing is a beat-up designed as an excuse to impose totalitarian controls over not just the global economy but over every minute aspect of the daily lives on everyone on the planet.
Once the world economy is smashed and every person irreversibly indebted, the relevant global interests will appear with their plan to “save” us.
The rhetoric of their plan is already starting to make its appearance. It is being branded as “Build Back Better”. Youmay have seen this lately being pushed into news items.
You will see much more of this slogan in coming days.
Problem > Reaction > Solution
https://news.un.org/en/story/2020/06/1066152
This evil is where Ahern has pledged her allegiances, to radical, elite, anti-human narcissism.
That is insane.
@ FreddieMars
Excuse me, I should have introduced that link and why it is relevant.
As you can see, it is a link to UN-issued media. The following provides the “Build Back Better” headline and summary of the article revealing how “Build Back Better” (from the plandemic) is supposed to work. This was published in June.
https://news.un.org/en/story/2020/06/1066152
What does ‘build back better’ really mean? One of the world’s top CEOs give us his take
UN chief António Guterres, has warned of an “unparalleled economic shock”, as a result of the COVID-19 crisis. So, going forward, can the private sector “build back better” to reorder the post-pandemic world, or, might the UN’s vision of a sustainable future be relegated to a low-priority aspiration? We put these questions to the CEO of one of the world’s largest conglomerates, who is working with the Organization, towards a better future.
So there you have it. Three scams in one:
1) Plandemic
2) Build back better
3) Sustainable future
Please, Freddie, it is a UN document. Are you going to continue to insist that this is just a “conspiracy theory”?
Kim
This argument is all very familiar, and it is addressed (again) below. Your reading of the information is twisted.
Besides that, it’s not the question at hand: where is the evidence of Jacinda Ardern’s “long history of mental disorders”?
The Kerguelen Islands fared better still — no leadership at all.
LMAO at your idiocy again! Name ONE THING Joe Biden has fixed in 47 years in Congress. Just ONE. I’m waiting….
A screen saver for brains indelibly plastered with a single topic, note China launching a satellite every two weeks for an extended period of time. There are only so many slots for weather satellites…
Other employment for multiples of satellites from a command and control CCP origin most likely are surveillance and space vehicles purposed to search for and disable other satellites. See DEBKAfile for update on Iranian nuclear (did not miss a lick during the treaty hoax) weapons progress.. PDRK and Iran joint efforts continue apace.
Some half dozen US adversaries, several nuclear armed, verbalize their antagonism toward USA consistently. Pay attention when a gaggle of dictators settle on specific talking points, denoting collaboration… In recent time, “America will face starvation”. has been a recurrent topic of communique’..
Famine Hedge as well as bunkers and bullets plays a role in surviving conflicts. WWII was a good example of victory obtained in no small part thru ability to stretch out America’s food distribution system to England and maintaining victuals to Allied Armies as they moved beyond the D-Day beachhead. And the Pacific theatre.
These anarchists in our midst will no doubt revert to sabotaging food distribution, so establishing drone surveillance and no-go space along rail corridors is needed. Futile as it seems, this writer continually pleads for rebuilt rail corridor into food production districts being re-established, with active participation of wealthy persons and corporations in a “rail segment adoption” scenario.
Used to plenteous food at hand, it really is helpful in these times to see and read for comprehension William Forstchen “ONE SECOND AFTER”. Food distribution is highest on target list, whether foreign foes or vengeful anarchists. EMP is not the only way to stifle supplies. It is not necessary to list ways and means of interfering with deliveries; the malcontents are prepared already.
Just as the National Guard has license to shoot looters in a martial scenario, it is sad to suggest persons blocking food distribution might expect similar deterrence. At some points near arterials bicycle no-go zones may be needed to forestall flash mob bicycle piles on key roadways? These things seem lines from a nightmarish horror movie, but here we are. Tom Clancy would be apalled… There are really more important subjects than reparations in America’s future.
The Biden scandals are not a problem. The Democrats don’t care, the media don’t care, and the deep state will drown them whenever they come up to the surface for a gasp of air.
How pathetic that a president running for re-election never mentions his record over the past 4 years. Only cheap and tawdry conspiracy theories that thankfully Joe refuses to even respond to.
Well now – couldn’t be that trump has the worst record ever, could it? Including his criminal handling of the worst US health crisis in over 100 years? there is nothing whatsoever to recommend this orange slob.
Nothing. – just go away trump – an take you awful family with you.
WOW, Pam Demic! How long did it take for her programming to showup at JFK’s site? These super-fast computers can do amazing things.
Another worthless post from the one trick ccp drone account.
Mentioned the day after Scott Atlas – another stable genius in the trump circus, shows up on RT
Do you even listen to yourself?
Yep, he’s YOUR president too, Pammy Cheeks….for the next 4 years.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Yep at least I am rational and reasonable unlike you who is irrational and stupid.
That’s not orange, it’s just a faint coating of rust:
Trump is Iron Man.
His stamina is remarkable, 2 or 3 rallies a day over the past week or so.
He did Five yesterday and was going until after midnight.
Useful having a fully loaded 747 at his eternal disposal. Thanks, Taxpayers!
Pam. You need to get out more. As in turning the channel away from the Communist News Network to FOX News long enough to actually watch an uncensored Trump rally for a couple of hours from beginning to end. Trump fills most of that times giving example after example after example of accomplishments and promises kept.
All he talks about IS his record, for crying out loud.
This is why you have zero credibility here. You talk out of your rear end and what comes out smells up this joint.
Hell, you ain’t even a decent troll. Run on back to whatever university campus you accidentally wandered off of. You may as well stay there. You are wholly unequipped to survive in the real world. If anyone ever needed a “safe space,” Pammy, it’s you.
Oh please, he lies about his record all the time it’s hard to keep track of how much he lies.
Here’s just one recent example of the sort of things Mr. Trump says at his rallies:
“Boasting about his tariffs on China, Trump said, “Nobody ever even heard of tariffs. They never even heard of tariffs. Nobody. In fact, when I first started doing it, they didn’t even know what it meant.”
This is wildly inaccurate; of course people had heard of tariffs before Trump. The US has had tariffs on China for more than two centuries, President Barack Obama imposed new tariffs on China, and FactCheck.org reported that the US generated, from tariffs on China, an “average of $12.3 billion in custom duties a year from 2007 to 2016, according to the U.S. International Trade Commission DataWeb.”
So, what has he achieved in that particular environment? Farmers are now getting socialist-style hand-outs; small businesses in the mid-West were closed when the steel tariffs first hit; and so on.
That one leads right onto another verifiable falsehood:
“Who is paying the tariffs on China? Trump again claimed that China paid the $28 billion in tariff revenue he then distributed to farmers.”
This money wasn’t from China. Study after study has found that Americans are bearing the cost of Trump’s tariffs on imported Chinese products. And American importers, not Chinese exporters, make the actual tariff payments to the US government. That’s not coming out of their ‘end’ – it’s passed on to consumers (regardless of who they voted for.)
Trump indulges in hyperbole.
People are perfectly aware it is hyperbole.
So no harm, no foul, as they say.
Ah! So, lying that’s OBVIOUS lying is okay. Got it.
Biden/Harris 2020!!!! Trump will be first president to go to prison…now here come’s the comments from the Trump cultists…this outa be fun:)
For?
And want to bet?
The list is long, and i would gladly bet you.
oughta
an (sic) take you (sic) awful family with you. – Pam D
Never mentions his record???
All he does is blow his own horn.
You really are quite the troll.
Is it that bad that we’re pimping out DC influence to build infrastructure terminals?
At least something is getting done because you know no local or Federal leaders can endeavor to upgrade our rusted out system.
Congratulations, Jim. You’ve gone Full Breitbart.
You mean full common sense.
Something that must elude you.
Voting for Trump early tomorrow morning.
Afterwards, I’m looking forward to a blind date with a hot chick named Pam Demic. Anybody heard of her? What’s she look like? Good personality? Does she exude positivity?
Lordy! Son……Tinder lies…….and you’ve been HAD! Don’t walk, RUN (away.) ?
It’s a man, baby!
So now the world knows who you are and what your price is.
So where do we go?
Trump in a landslide!
Late Tuesday night I’m sure those of us who consume alcohol will probably continue the practice, either as a much needed celebratory gesture or as a much needed medicinal alternative to Valium (or arsenic!).
Whatever the outcome, I’m with my far-left sister-in-law who hopes the winner — whoever he is — does so handily on November 3rd. We don’t want the 7th game of the World Series, bottom of the ninth, tie score, two outs, and a guy with a .470 record at bat — the equivalent of counting chads again.
I was listening to an analysis on the radio of a possible election scenario. You need 270 Electoral College votes to win, but it is possible for each candidate to get 269 votes apiece if certain States don’t go as expected, and Nebraska’s or Maine’s individual congressional districts force a tie. Holy mother of pearl! What happens then?
It goes to the House to decide.
But wait, all you drooling Democrats! Though Democrats have 232 members to 198 Republican members (ignoring one Independent and four vacancies), that’s not how it works. Each State gets one vote in the House, so there are only 50 votes possible.
Let’s take California. How would it vote? There are 53 congressional districts, of which only 7 are Republican, so it would be a fair guess to assume Biden would get California’s one vote.
Now let’s take Alaska. It has one congressional district and it is held by a Republican, so it would be a fair guess to assume Trump would get Alaska’s one vote.
See where this is going? As it turns out, in the House currently 27 States have Republican representative majorities to 23 States with Democratic representative majorities.
But wait, all you drooling Republicans! There’s a wrinkle in this scenario. The current House does not get to decide. It’s the membership of the new House after the election that gets to vote.
So let’s take, for example, Florida, whose 27 congressional districts are currently split, 14 Republican to 13 Democrat. What if just one congressional district flipped? Then the majority would likewise flip, and Trump’s erstwhile vote goes to Biden.
So if such a thing happened in just two “Republican” States, the House Party split would be 25 to 25. So, I hear you asking, what happens then? Good question.
Answer: a freakin’ nightmare! because there’s no Constitutional provision for such a scenario. It has never happened. The Supreme Court has no authority to step in.
The most likely scenario would be a battle royale in the House to get one Party to concede. If that happened, there would be a gigantic political/policy price to pay to the other Party for surrendering the Presidency. So now you understand why a definitive victory is desirable immediately.
But in case the new House wrangles on for weeks starting on January 3rd with no resolution, Civil War could break out in the country.
Civil war 2.0 will expunge democrats in mass.
I pray Trump in a landslide.
Wrong dum-dum
Penn. is already a lock. trump is done. There will be hope.
That’s what Hillary though in 2016. Keep thinking that.
I Know, I know…….it’s those mind-boggling crowds of supporters at Biden rallies in PA that convinced you it’s in the bag, right?
Hard to argue with a person who operates on that sort of logic.
Some advice for election night: Keep your cryin’ towel handy, darlin’.
Great fun to push the buttons here. Mention certain states winning and immediately 2016 is front and center.
Of course trumpers operate on that sort of id-level stimulus and response. How else to explain the empty look on their faces at rallies? Waiting for the next dog-biscuit. Minds blissfully empty – an autocrat’s dream come true.
Says the propagandist, no one believes ANYTHING you post.
Moron.
You give us a clue where your imagination lies on the bell curve
benr
Did that take long to come up with? I’ll bet it did.
Pam talks like a member of the PMC. The Professional Managerial Class, the useless parasites who have gotten us into the mess of an economy that we have now. Pam, are you one of the PMC? You know that Mao’s student revolutionaries killed off the PMC class?
I belong to a small group of hairless fatties who worship the Bronx-Whitestone Bridge.
Where did you C&P that from, benr?
Original work after two cups of coffee and important enough I actually paid attention.
If so, we’ll done. Zero spelling or punctuation errors. Q.Shtik will be sending you a certificate (with a gold star, no doubt).
Thanks Maj I knew you would approve.
“Historians of the future, pan-frying sowbugs over their campfires, will recollect in wonder and nausea the election of 2020…”
There will be no historians in the future. There will only be State Authorized Perception Managers. We’re almost to that point now. They want to control our thinking, and we want to let them. At least, way too many of us do. It will be seen as bad taste to have any kind of independent or free thought or honest assessment of events. Freedom – like Covid- will be seen and treated as a dangerous virus that must be eradicated forever. Wear a mask on your mind, too.
“…the Golden Golem of Greatness… (Joe Biden) how can he possibly be inaugurated with himself and his family tangled up in a grift case that involves the Chinese Communist Party’s intel service?…will we be treated to the extravaganza of Antifa and BLM burning and looting in the cities from sea to shining sea?”
We are primed by corporate and sensation-media to get all excited about this kind of stuff. And, there is some significance to it all. But in the end, nobody is going to care about any of this. When we come to the end of our earthly days, our Important Tally Sheet will be about the people we loved, the people we miss, the things we accomplished, the things we didn’t get to accomplish, and our memories of some of the fun stuff we did along the way. We will not be concerned with elections and political crooks and grifters and any of the numerous other horse manure aggravation chatter that outside interests tries to gin up in our thoughts. Politics will be relegated back to its true of level of nonsense we happen to do along the way to become adults. Politics and American life today is like early grammar school on steroids. Except, nobody ever grows up.
Choosing between Trump and Biden, Republican and Democrat, is like choosing between titanium dioxide and zinc oxide. That’s why I voted Green.
I voted green too. Saved a couple greenbacks by not wating time, gas or stamps voting this time around.
wasting
Thank you for your vote (not picking Biden)
“And, if by some mysterious act of God (or write-in ballot fraud) Joe Biden manages to get elected POTUS, how can he possibly be inaugurated with himself and his family tangled up in a grift case that involves the Chinese Communist Party’s intel service? It flat-out ain’t gonna happen. ”
He can be inaugurated b/c he only has to last a few months to do so. Many states don’t have to certify election results until December, and some of those are mid-December. So this election probably won’t be called for weeks and our wonderful media will drown out the Hunter Biden scandal with nonstop hysterics. I hope this doesn’t happen but I won’t be surprised. There’s no way it will be reported truthfully anymore anyhow b/c the people who hate Trump really, really hate him. And they’re in charge of the news media 100%.
Trump is the biggest threat to the Deep State ever. A second term Trump is even worse. First thing, fire every vestige of the Deep State that still remains.
Barr, Wray for a start. Hard to move forward when you have to look backward constantly to check for knives.
Oh no – another ‘Deep State’ nimrod.
Will it ever end?
Are you going to explode soon, bro?
JohnAZ – can you suggest whom he SHOULD enlist to carry out his apparently ‘manifest destiny’?
He claimed in the 206 campaign that he “knows all the best people”. That claim has lost some shine over the last few years, and in any case, he’s fired most of them.
So, from where should he get his cabinet? CFN Comments board?
(2016)
Thanks for yr job offers.
DOJ/AG – Tom Fitten
FBI – Giuliani
State – Appoint Steve Bannon as a Special Envoy to China
Close Education
Close HUD
Close the CIA
I’d have thought:
Attorney General – elysianfields (law enforcement is his thing)
Director of the Central Intelligence Agency – Night Owl (is spooky enough already)
Secretary of Commerce – benr (got to keep the kid busy)
Secretary of Defense – BackRowHeckler (talks guns like a pro)
Secretary of Education – Kim (always educatin’ us round here)
Secretary of Energy – JHK (who else???)
Secretary of Health and Human Services – JohnAZ (for the obvious reasons)
Secretary of Homeland Security – SoftStarLight (surely!) as Janos has gone ‘sublight’ again
Secretary of Labor – (will there be any jobs left?)
Director of National Intelligence – Volodya (smartest guy in the room)
Secretary of the Treasury – beantownbill (knows his numbers!)
Secretary of State – Pam Demic (gets on well with others)
Now – go fix this steaming mess!
Sorry malthuss! There’s still Secretary of Labor…what are your qualifications?
@ FreddieMars
Likely, JHK would not be interested becoming a Secretary of Energy – I think.
I believe JHK would instead nominate The Law Of Physics to be the Secretary of Energy as a replacement, in the cabinet of our deep-civilisation.
Physics what can explain why humans behave the way they behave – primitive more than the most primitives in all the animal kingdom.
Wail.
Aww…
And trump is so damn luvable! Such a darling liar and pig.
It jus’ ain’t right!
This isn’t about Trump or Biden being “luvable” (at least not to someone one over 12) it’s about electing a man who for years used his political office to illegally enrich his family with the participation of other highly placed government officials. What all of them seem to have forgotten is they’re government EMPLOYEES and their paychecks, benefits and retirement plans are funded by the American taxpayer, not the businesses they’re colluding with, and they cannot subvert the law for personal gain. I have no illusions Trump was a shady businessman and I doubt his business practices were a case study in ethics. The difference is, he was a private businessman and not a government official who makes policy. That’s why corruption in government is so much worse and private businesses spend millions to influence public policy.
An impressive display of tautological cognitive dissonance.
Remember in elementary school, there was always one kid that would bully his/her way through by picking at other kids, lying behind their backs, making absurd claims, trying to exert power by BSing their way through the day.
Some never grow up.
I would like to introduce you to Pam Demic.
In school, those kids would finally get found out and ignored.
If Trump wins despite vote counting shenanigans by the Dems ala Hammer tech vote fraud, riots and lawfare are next in the globalist playbook. Good to see Trump announce yesterday that he has his team of lawyers out in front of it.
It seems, also, that there’ll be enough watchdogs at polling stations to prevent Russia-style intimidation of people waiting in sub-zero temps for hours.
Ah yes, well that has been his M.O. his whole stinking life – do as you please then throw lawyers at the consequences.
Won’t work this time, though. We are wise to this creep.
Joe will fix all of this….
Indeed
Biden is a fixer.
Jihadi terror attack in Vienna going down right now.
Details vague. 7 dead? Hostages taken in a luxury hotel? A Synogogue damaged? Only thing known for certain is ‘ally akbar’ heard shouted at the scene. Vienna? Not Paris? Not London? Not Nice? Not Copenhagen? What gives? Why Vienna?
Brh
Joe and Hunter orchestrated that one. I’m sure of it. That is his style, you know.
Stressed over Joe’s miserable perforamnce?
Enjoy a nice border wall montage with inspiring music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvM7IJRrqj8&feature=emb_title
Joe is a disgrace – everyone knows this.
Finally you got one thing right, Pam.
A desperate “everything is Trump’s fault” move.
Jimmy Saville used to say, Jimmy will fix it. You’d vote for Jimmy too, eh Guile?
Great anti-Biden/Harris commercial. Halloween theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR9z94wGuJU
Big fun night at the trailer park?
Only a complete turd thinks a trailer park is some kind of insult.
Further proving you are the dunce that called himself cargill at one point.
Lots of fun slapping the trumpers around here but I have serious work to do tomorrow – working at a polling place tomorrow whereupon I am legally ok’ed to slap the living shit out of anyone with a MAGA hat.
Seems to me you have been getting slapped around and not slapping anyone.
As far as physical violence goes we all know you are full of crap on that front as well.
My God, I do hope you never set foot in Brooklyn…
I would so love to see you in person I will be on the east coast in November and would love to see you at an mma gym.
Like the wiseguys used to say (or maybe still do) – you would never even see it coming.
Pathetic.
Someone should tally your posts on this thread, Ghoul.
This is the greatest meltdown in CFN history.
LOL.
Well, JHK never used to attract the kind of bycatch he does now. This used to be a serious blog that dealt with subjects of great import.
Now it is just a fetid puddle for inarticulate trumpers.
I am hoping Jim has a long night of the soul soon and realizes how badly he has strayed.
More opinion backed by jack shit.
N O , Pam’s got 44 posts in 6 hours. Ignore Cargill, Cockatoo Man, Pam Demic. He,her, it is a waste of time and bandwidth.
benr is keeping up with Pam pretty well, too. Talk about Pavlovian conditioning!
Had a tooth pulled my first ever cavity and it was a doozy.
Went in and had a root canal done around 2017 .
It was poorly done and got infected.
So I had it pulled out yesterday morning.
They put my on Vicodin for a day or two which apparently makes me combative.
The drooling part is even more apt considering how long my mouth was full of gauze and numbing agent.
I think you should stick to blowing your Dad!
Not Bidens/Obama/Wray etc level of corruption and crime, but here’s some good news anyway.
Sherikia Hawkins, MI city clerk and Dem award-winner, arrested and charged after allegedly falsifying marked absentee ballots as “invalid” during 2018 mid-terms.
Ed Buck, millionaire who donated large coin to Obama and Clintons, arrested and charged for running a drug house. Two young Blacks found dead in last 18 months inside his apartment.
Dem mayor Jasiel Correia arrested and charged for extortion of companies trying to operate marijuana businesses.
Indiana Dem State Rep arrested and charged with trying to impersonate a police officer and trying to buy cocaine while driving under the influence.
In 2008, Joe Biden was the primary sponsor for the “Protect Our Children Act” bill.
Jim, I’ve followed your writings on and off for a good 12 or more years. Beginning with Geography of Nowhere and continuing with your musings about Peak Oil your pithy observations about our mass addiction to “Happy Motoring” and isolated suburban houses filled with useless consumer crap have often had me howling with laughter. Now, I am seeing a much darker and possibly more dangerous side of your writing and I would like to ask you to think carefully about feeding the beast of a disputed election. Politics is a rough sport, and it has been since the founding of the republic, but this is a very dangerous game you are playing. I would like to believe that you are not engaging in fear-mongering simply to entice your readers into making gold purchases, but the tone of your recent posts makes me wonder. We all need to stop treating politicians as cult leaders and try to return to the issues that they will be carrying forward on our behalf. Let’s pray for a clear and concise election outcome and a gracious and peaceful transition of power.
Hey, Lawrence – DUCK!
“Let’s pray for a clear and concise election outcome and a gracious and peaceful transition of power.”
Why address this to Jim? Owners in Portland, New York City and Washington, D.C. aren’t boarding up their businesses because of Proud Boys and gun-lovin’ MAGA-hat wearin’ Trumpers, let alone to lone voices of reason on the internet. Just listen to Antifa, BLM, and low-to-high-level federal bureaucrats in their own words, in videos and scripture splashed all over the non-MSM outlets.
And the Dems have been preparing a lawfare tsunami for a long time.
Oh brother. This is so insincere. I call troll.
The funny thing is that they think that Jim is vulnerable to group pressure and public shaming.
It really is juvenile.
I discovered JHK in a book called ‘The Middle Mind’ by Curtis White. I was amazed by this clear no-bullshit voice and depth of insight. So I became a fan, eagerly looking forward to CFN and ordering his books without question.
Sadly, that is all over now. Jim used to tell us all the time that he was allergic to conspiracies – now he wallows in the cheapest kind and has assembled a truly sad section of the cheapest seats to place his echo chamber. He no longer deals with the bigger issues and those of us who used to respect him must no go elsewhere – he has been devoured by the trump cultists.
Oh ok. The political and cultural future of the nation is no big issue at all huh. Makes complete sense! It’s funny because I never expect Mr. K to tell me what I want to hear. I just simply appreciate what he has to say. If he had felt Biden would be best for the nation based on all of the issues at hand I would have listened. It sounds like you need your views validated though for sure judging from the level of unhinged you have gone to. You’re echo chamber assertion is thus more projection and it is also very rude and pretentious which puts the yuck factor off the charts TBH.
Thank you, JHK, for another informative, entertaining and on-target piece. I am your age so have the perspective of what the country was like over the last six decades. Of course we were and are imperfect, but the consensus was that we solved problems through dialogue, compromise and mutual respect–and that commitment to the American ideal was understood. Not until recently have we seen such a blatant, concerted effort to “fundamentally transform” the country.
Frightening:
How easily so many people have been brainwashed by the media to the point that they’ve become zombies, incapable of any rational thought or civil dialogue.
The level of pure, seething hatred exhibited by so many on the left. I know people who are so filled with rage that they’re virtually mentally ill, ready to explode at any moment.
The level of abject ignorance about basic American history, its system of governance compared with other systems, and the horrible legacy of totalitarian regimes throughout history.
The eagerness by so many leftists to use any and all means, regardless of how illegal, unethical or immoral, to bring down a duly-elected president.
How close we will be to full-blown totalitarianism if Trump loses. “Truth and reconciliation commissions,” anyone??
Encouraging:
The groundswell of support for Trump evident across the country, among people of all ages and backgrounds. At its heart it’s not Trump himself, but rather what he represents–the total repudiation of all the above.
I will be voting tomorrow and praying for the survival of this country.
The rage of the Left is the same thing that enrages children when you take their toys away from them. The Left are children in maturity.
When Trump took their power away from them, they have been crying ever since.
@Veritas
You wrote, “How easily so many people have been brainwashed by the media…”.
Do you imply that you do not get any information from news media?
Cuz if ya do and if you believe any assertion presented, bingo!, yer zapped, brainwashed.
My point is that I would simply replace your words, “so many” with the word “all”.
Do you honestly believe those things you wrote?
SMH
~toktomi~
no reply necessary as I won’t be back to this post
You really should, given that you seem not to understand what brainwashing means.
From Cambridge :
[…] to make people believe only what you want them to believe by continually telling them that it is true and preventing any other information from reaching them
@ toktomi
I would say that people reply for the benefit of all readers, not just those who first addressed them.
On my earlier post regardingBiden’s really effective plan for Covid, NOT, I omitted one of the four items he stated.
He is going to get all the special equipment and PPE for the health care workers.
Good idea Bozo, considering that has already been done by Trump so well that he got a Kudos from Andrew Cuomo for his effort. Cuomo was immediately clobbered by the Left for saying so.
So,
1. Double testing no impact on the spread but the bean counters will be happy.
2. More PPE already but Biden wants the credit for doing nothing.
3. Open the WH pandemic office it never closed but was scaled back.
4. Maintain Obamacare. Uh-huh.
Net change zero.
The irony of Covid is that the WH board under Pence with Birx and Fauci identified very quickly the only things that have kept the surges away.
Masks, distancing, hand washing, minimize indoor activity in large groups.
Every time the public is too dumb to follow the rules, or official doctrine forces close contact, such as schools, the surges take off.
The new cases data shows three surges since March with this one being the biggest.
Politically two extreme choices are available. Lockdown, being used in Europe now and is a banner line for the Dems
Or
Ignore the epidemic and let ‘er rip and hope it will go away or herd immunity will eventually occur.
The effect on human activity of both is horrendous. Lockdown obvious, but even let ‘er rip will shut down the economy due to the effect on health care. Who is going to pay the bills.
No solution, so Biden will have zero impact and his group hasn’t got a clue either.
The Partial solution, keep your distance, wear masks when unable to maintain your distance, wash hands, avoid meetings and get to work.
Schools, reduce class size and keep distance.
Even with preventive action, the virus maintains a steady state infection rate, it does not go to zero.
A reporter commented today that the difference between the Asian countries and the US in infection and death rates is simply they wear masks as normal social interaction. On Fox.
John, have you thought that maybe some parties benefit when there is no apparent solutions or more generally, lots of disinformation and noise. Below it was noted that we cannot trust the reported covid death rate in the US because hospitals have a known perverse incentive to mislabel deaths as covid related. So from the outset the data is untrustworthy and unreliable. So how can there be solutions when the problem is not fully grasped as it was obviously intended? The CDC itself has been proven to be full of anti-Trumpers with partisan agendas. Traditionally conservatives have distrusted bureaucrats and gov officials for these very things in the past. Why would the same government that at least in part plotted to overthrow an elected President be deemed trustworthy for anything? And that includes the media outlets including Fox, who have propagandized for them.
The main street economy burning to the ground has been mighty convenient for the techlords and oligarchs, the latter day trusts.
No argument that the data is manipulated. Trends are key, no individual days or weeks. You are right, the media will cherry pick and use it to lie, lie, lie.
What I watch are trends, level, upward slightly, upward like a rocket, and downward. Trends are undeniable, especially when noted across many states, each of which counts in it own way.
Three surges have been noted, the biggest right now. Each have been triggered by specific events.
Now. Opening the schools and allowing the kids spread it through the population and two the northern states are moving indoors.
Summer opening the economy prematurely, meaning not understanding what was spreading the virus and consequently encouraging personal space shrinkage, big mistake.
March. No one knew what to do, ignorance everywhere. CDC, NIH, WHO all sending different messages, Fauci at one time said that masks did not do anything. BTW, watch the Good Doctor, last night and next week for a great representation of what was happening in the hospitals in March.
Trends are accurate, they occur and their movement goes through the same measurement technique, so effects of the way things are measured are washed out.
Do not get hooked into the political bent on this analysis, neither side has a clue what to do or the best way to handle the disease.
Kill the virus is the only key to success. The vaccine effort is stop gap. Think of how many people get the flu in spite of the flu vaccine. The CDC and FDA has done a really crappy job of investigating this virus, its effects and researching how to kill it. I will tell you why!
One man control. The Constitution was written so never will one man or group have control of decision making. All we heard for months was Fauci said this or that. The solution is not Fauci, or Birx or Trump or Biden etc. It will be the result of contributions from many sources.
Why has Trump taken the viewpoint of “ignoring” the virus and concentrating on saving the economy? Because he got no real answers from anyone, or conflicting viewpoints from everywhere. He took a stand.
Anyone want to bet how quickly the emphasis on the disease disappears or reduces significantly once the election is decided?
John AZ
The major difference is that in the USA the numbers are massively inflated.
As long as they are inflated all the time, the trends still tell the story.
Huh?
Jack Nicklaus, the Golden Bear, tweighs in on the fake covid crisis:
Fox:
Kack Nicklaus, fresh off his supportive tweet of President Trump, questioned whether the coronavirus death toll was correct in an interview published Friday.
Nicklaus talked to the Palm Beach Post about his decision to publicly support the president’s reelection. When asked about Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic, the renowned golfer said he doesn’t think anybody would have done anything different than what Trump has done.
“Has he saved millions of lives or has he cost us lives? Nobody is going to know that. If you’re objective about it, nobody knows that. I think he’s done the best he can with the people he’s had,” he said.
Nicklaus, 80, said he knew two people whose parents had died from something other than COVID-19, and said the unnamed people were asked whether their deaths could be changed to COVID-19 and declined the request.
“The hospital gets more money with COVID death than they do another death,” the golf legend told the newspaper. “I’m sure there’s been a lot of that.”
Yoho: Jack himself got it and was right as rain after two days on the old Hydrochloriquine. Wrong spelling? The computer won’t help me. Let’s just call it milk plus. We need to have this stuff available in bars.
There’s a dementia hardcore drunks get called Weinrich’s syndrome. If they would just put vitamin B1 in some of the drinks this could be staved off. With it you can be drunk all the time for free. Karma. A tragedy on one level but justice on another.
The politicization of treatment of Covid by the anti-Trumpers is criminal. The variation of the way the virus attacks individuals mandates differences in treatment. This goes against typical medicine which is cookbook in nature.
If we do not learn how to kill viruses, they are going to evolve to kill us.
Treatment research is the key, not vaccines. Vaccines take too long.
You and Jack are probably right about graft in the hospitals.
BUT the trends are there which are independent of how the data is gotten.
BTW, The Good Doctor, on now, is a pretty good representation of the initial start of the pandemic. Lots of mistakes due to ignorance.
KACK
It’ll be ok. It was a simple typo. That milk plus will make you right as rain in no time!
Jim, I’ve been on and off reading your blog for years. I was a big fan of “The Geography of Nowhere” and many of your trenchant takes on the failures of our modern world. How you got here, I will never know. You are like a purveyor of apocalypse porn. I settled long ago on the notion that you fairly despise optimism. Your comment section has become a parade of delusional Trump supporters. That you will be voting for him, in the face of all you warn against, and using as supporting evidence scant evidence of “grift” from the Biden camp, is beyond odd. I just remember you on this very sad program rife with apocalyptologists. Michael Ruppert was on there with you. He was a very wounded soul, but he had a heart you seem to lack. You seemed uncomfortable to be on that program, but I expect you could not pass on the publicity and opportunity to be seen. It’s rather like our president. Vote for him. You deserve him and the consequences of him should he win again. I will look at your work as a lost opportunity. I expect that doesn’t mean a damn to you, but hey, you can’t salvage your mentality. Don’t tell me you haven’t realized that.
So patronizing!
Powerful shaming language!
I am sure that Jim is rocked to his socks.
“Empathy” is hardly a basis for policy, instead it is blackmail. There is never any ’empathy’ for the hollowed out rust belt small towns, the old working classes who had their jobs Shanghai’d or flooded with millions of third world competitors, etc.
Wokesterism is worse than anything Trump or his rowdy fanbase have cooked up. Though you make a curious point- how much of the Wokeness is with us now because suburban unlife made many of the newly credentialed cartoons of serious people, the way the suburbs are cartoons of serious places?
I just fail to see how returning to greater globalism or even higher amounts of mass migration do anything but make our problems worse. I don’t want to empower cadres of people who hate me, my ancestors, and our history.
The GOP is full of venial market worshipers, sure, but the Dems seem to now be full of something worse. Hard times.
SJPURTILL Take a look around. Collapse isn’t coming, collapse is here, large areas of the USA ruined, financial carcasses of towns and cities and families and businesses littering the landscape. All it takes is open eyes and ears, the willingness to see things as they are, to remember things as they once were, things well within living memory.
America’s prosperous past, when a decent standard of living was widely available to ordinary people like my own relatives, guys with just a grade school education or even less, a time when breadwinner jobs were the rule rather than the exception, is no figment of the imagination. Those of us of a certain age remember it well.
Optimism is easy when all is good with you. So, tell me, are things good with you? Optimism is tougher when they aren’t and it’s tougher when you can see circumstances deteriorating for large numbers of people. What we have in my own estimation and that of a lot of others, is an economic elite and their enabling clerisy inside and outside government working for their own benefit to the exclusion of any other consideration like whether anybody else’s interests matter outside their own circle, including that of the country as a whole.
These people claim they’re about science and reason and rationality. They’re not. They claim to work for the underclass, people that are downtrodden and marginalized, whereas in fact, they work against them, doing their level best to keep them down, to create more of those same people they say they’re working for.
What they are about mostly is dollars, their own, and those of their own caste, dollars in anybody else’s pocket a travesty of justice. To say that they’ve taken leave of their senses is understating the case, they’ve ruined the country they rely on to ensure their own survival, alienating those people they rely on to take up arms to defend them, making a mockery of common sense, and reason and rationality.
What JHK does is point out the obvious twice a week, a chronicle of things as they happen, telling us how things may go, how he hopes they will go, with the rest of us pitching in our two cents. As far as Trump goes, he looks to a lot of us as the lesser of two evils, the Democrats and their nominee being by far the greater. But you can see things your own way. After all you can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink.
Nonsense. This blog and this comment section has not always been this way. It has become insanely partisan. How can you possibly see any good in this direction? We are dying because we cannot speak to one another. My patronizing comment was made in anger after reading JHKs recent post, because he’s really become one of the worst offenders. It really is an unsalvageable mentality because there is so much ego laced into his writing. So I stand by my comment, JHKs work is a lost opportunity. He’s left much of its true import behind for this new direction. And this community has been rendered moot because of it. And Trump will likely lose today and hopefully we can move toward actual dialogue somehow, in the distant future in a country that has always been troubled and always been run by troubled figures.
I do not believe the Bad Orange Man will lose today. But even a minor stable genius like myself can be wrong occasionally.
One thing I am absolutely sure of: There is no “dialogue” gonna happen. No how. No way.
The Extreme Left has traveled so far off the dadgum reservation that they have long disappeared over the far horizon and those of us who inhabit Red State America aren’t the least bit inclined to saddle up and go riding in search of these yo-yo’s in order to try and make nice with them.
No, if Biden wins, our national stress does not end. Contrary to popular belief on the part of Democrats and RINOS, a Trump defeat does not mean that Red State America runs up a white flag and surrenders. We simply go into RESISTANCE MODE. I’m sure the Democrats comprehend what that means.
The unspeakable truth is that America has evolved into two nations and they cannot be administered equitably by a single government. It is time to get a political divorce. Preferable a peaceful one wherein we divvy up the national assets and go our separate ways, but if that fails there is always the less pleasant option.
Blue Staters can have their socialist utopia that they seem bound and determined to have, but I will not be a part of it, nor am I going to fund it. That ain’t happening, and I think I have about half the dadgum country standing with me on that point.
So, the sooner the Blues “get” this, the sooner we can come to terms, shake hands, and walk away from each other in peace. Peaceful partition of the country is the only low-stress way out of this predicament.
Jim did not change his political views in a vacuum. Like the old saying says, “I did not leave the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party left ME.” I think this is essentially all Jim has been saying. I have been reading Jim’s work for over a decade and have watched the evolution over time. I do not get the sense that the man is any less decent today than he was ten years ago. Indeed, it strikes me that it is the COUNTRY that has become far less decent as it incessantly moves Left into the La-La Land of Communism, Wokesterism, Hyper-Feminism, and a general state of Bizarro-Worldism.
When the world you have always known suddenly mutates into something so bizarre and repulsive that you cannot recognize it anymore, well, it is natural and normal to be repelled by the changes and to reject them for good cause.
So lay off the dude. Everyone has the right to modify their views based on changes they see going on around them.
Do not keep me in suspense. I am ex-Navy but 8645 has me stumped.
Michael Moore in 2016: the election of Donald Trump will be the biggest fuck you in human history. See his classic speech and video below. But Newt Gingrich told Tucker the coming Trump victory will be even bigger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDL3Yjl31K8
Can we stop this charade? They must never be allowed into power again. At the very least Trump deserves a third term since they took the first one away from him.
RBG could have stepped down during the Obama years and he could have gotten in another liberal justice. But she was too in love with her own image and believed her own personality cult – so she hung around. And their worship culture doesn’t allow them to speak truth to power so no one could ask her to step down in time. An extraordinary failure on all levels – to our immense gain – a gain that may save America from the Democrats in the coming crisis.
I agree with you in totality that Trump should automatically receive a third term. His first term was stolen and the fact that the coup plotters roam free is a direct affront and insult to our entire nation. The way the progressive revolutionaries are acting it seems that Harris et al are in deep electoral trouble. According to how well they say they have been doing I can’t understand why they are not celebrating instead. They are literally booking campaign stops in PA tomorrow. That was supposed to be wrapped up weeks or months ago.
By that reasoning, Slick Willie should have had a 3rd term too, given most of his second term was fending off Ken Starr, as the GOP pursued a nothing-burger in a supposed land-deal scam but ended up with only a cum-stained dress, and an acquittal, from a Senate with a Republican majority. Throughout, President Clinton just kept doing his job (whatever you might personally think of it) and let smarter minds handle it.
Mr. Trump could have done the same. If he didn’t get anything done in his first two years, with Congressional majorities in both House & Senate, it’s more likely because he didn’t know how to. The ACA repeal effort was a farce, and without any credible substantive replacement to offer – despite his *pixie-dust & unicorn* promises through the campaign (which he’s still trying to pedal today. Seriously?)
His singular domestic “success” was the massive tax cut for the wealthy – top 20% of incomes – which remains more disapproved of than not
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/15/donald-trump-tax-cuts-unpopular-1273469
I seem to recall 2016 Candidate Trump promising to pay down the $19 Trillion Federal Debt over 8 years. It currently stands at $26.4 Trillion, though to be fair, it was only a measly $22.7 Trillion pre-COVID, so he only added $3.7 Trillion (or 19%) prior to that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/04/02/trumps-nonsensical-claim-he-can-eliminate-19-trillion-in-debt-in-eight-years/
Even if I could overlook all of the above (as plenty round here do), and if I could believe even half of the apocalyptic predictions of a DNC Biden presidency, I still wonder whether the social fabric could survive another 4 years of this constant trolling bullshit from the Commander-in-Chief.
I guess I’ll figure it out on the way to the polling booth.
@ FreddieMars
You really need to get up to speed about what this plandemic and all of the Soros street theater has really been all about.
Because at the moment, you are just a dupe for international finance.
Here, read this. It is from “Foreign Policy”, an egghead but very mainstream source, last April.
A Global Pandemic Bailout Was Coming—Until America Stopped It
The IMF was getting ready to respond to an unprecedented international crisis. Why did the Trump administration refuse to play along?
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/04/17/global-pandemic-bailout-imf-world-bank-meetings-america-sdrs/
Considering this background, we should all be very excited about this second Trump term because this is the time – the early 2020s – when the globalists thought they would have the USA on its knees and they would be able to finally shut the door on it and institute the final and most binding elements of their demented globalist plan, but Trump – like a giant baby run amok – is stepping on and smashing up their carefully arranged train set.
And it is glorious.
Remember, the globalist plan is to institute a single world government with the power to over-ride every national sovereignty.
The indispensable key to this is to establish a single world monetary authority which is solely responsible for issuing a digital world currency.
This has been the plan for a long time. Wrt the IMF’s plans for the SDR – for example – the idea has always been for the IMF to issue the SDR, assigning to each country a budget and even providing a budget to approved NGOs such as the UN and Greenpeace.
But that is impossible as long as the USA and the US dollar stays strong.
So the idea of the plandemic has been to destroy the world economy, especially the US economy, breaking every nation with so much unrepayable debt that sovereign fiats are worthless. The bankers could then to trot out a new digital world currency that would take on and harmonize all of these debts.
I expect that Trump will never, ever agree to that.
I think that Trump would instead take the USA towards agricultural self-sufficiency, national Victory Gardens and industrial autarky before he would allow that to happen.
And so I say,
God Bless and Preserve the God-Emperor Trump!
You’ve got your presidents mixed up.
Trump ain’t no ANDREW JACKSON.
NO WAY, NO HOW.
Hmm. Thanks for the link, which I read with interest.
However, I can’t see any evidence in it to support your views as expressed above.
The US certainly spiked a proposed expansion in the SDR pool from only $150-odd billion to around 7 times that figure (a round trillion) which is pocket change in the global perspective of GDP of $81 trillion. In terms of global assets, it’s even less:
https://www.visualcapitalist.com/all-of-the-worlds-money-and-markets-in-one-visualization-2020/
Much of what you state as fact is actually conjecture, and your interpretation of the facts presented. I’ve come across this perspective regarding the IMF and the World Bank many times before, but I don’t buy it.
Your use of the words “plandemic” and “Soros” in the opening sentence signalled quite clearly where you were headed, but I was still flabbergasted by your closing statement.
He trolls liars and thieves who then double down and confess they won’t quit, ever.
I also felt like that comment was aggressive and lewd. I really don’t remember much from the Clinton presidency as I was too young to really pay attention. But whatever the case may be, Trump has been working since day one against most everything in the political arena and Washington. Many Republicans were against him from day one and were unsupportive of his agenda. So I am not surprised he has not been able to accomplish as much as he would like too. From everything I can see Bill Clinton was entirely supported by the media at the time and really by the establishment. He was portrayed as cool and down to earth. So it was not as if he didn’t have Elite support. No mainstream show or political figure has treated Trump the same way and there can be no pretense of such. I don’t think anyone believes your vote is still undecided. You have been a Biden supporter all along Freddie and you know that.
Wrong. I’m no ‘Biden’ supporter.
Sorry if you found my comment lewd.
So you really are undecided at this point?
I wish you would vote for Trump. Don’t cast a vote to support the globalists! You may not like his personality and his manner of communication but he does love this country and its people. Look how hard he has been campaigning. If he was such a horrible person why would he do that when he could just go back to his rich life and have far less troubles and worries.
Bill Clinton was smart enough to work with Republicans and I believe he was a little afraid of Newt Gingrich.
In addition to being the Holy Ghost of Grift and Gaslight (love it Mr. K!), it really does need to be emphasized IMO that Joe Biden will work cautiously and sleepily to make sure every American gets the badakathcare they have an absolute right to and deserve. Because the go, you know, the thing! 😉
ha ha
lol..and what do ya think about that gem “trunalimunumaprzure”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXibgeautVg&feature=emb_logo
I’ll say it again, and test JHK’s commitment to freedom of expression.
Jim, you’ve jumped the shark.
@ ohyesiam
test JHK’s commitment to freedom of expression.
Test his commitment to freedom of expression? With your anodyne, politically correct codswallop? You misrepresent yourself entirely.
As to his commitment to free speech, it is admirable and we have every reason to appreciate it.
“God Bless and Preserve the God-Emperor Trump!”
You’ve been mentally broken.
And it is hilarious.
I will not argue with you re: masks. However, much info is being generated right now about how this crud spreads. Read up!
Well, it looks like 4 dead in Vienna, more wounded, in what’s being described by head of the EU as “an attack on our values.”
Ahahahahaha!
That said, expect the good citizens of that historic city to respond to this bloodshed by lighting candles, laying wreaths, linking arms, hugging teddy bears, and singing the EU hymn, Kumbaya!
The main task now for EU authorities appears to be to prevent any kind of retribution that might be exacted upon the Muslim population at large — honored guests IOW — and crack down hard on any ‘Right Wing Groups’ that may be talking about patriotism and revenge. No stone will go unturned to root out these European nativists.
Brh
Very good point Brh!! What exactly are the values of the EU? I can’t help but think that the whole purpose of the EU is to destroy the national sovereignty of every European nation and to replace native Europeans with third world underclasses who will be willing slaves of the Elite. Their reaction only supports that view since their only real concern is to ensure that Islam and Muslims continue to be uplifted and protected at all and every cost.
Gee SSL
Destroy national sovereignty and substitute a large group of outsiders.
Sound familiar.
The globalist foot steps are loud if you just listen.
Yup!!
“Destroy national sovereignty and substitute a large group of outsiders. Sound familiar.”
It should. It’s what European colonists did all over the world, over a very long period. We’re still dealing with the legacy.
But (for brh) France doesn’t seem to be singing Kumbaya.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/19/samuel-paty-french-police-raid-dozens-of-islamist-groups
“Police sources told French media that authorities were preparing to deport 213 foreigners who were on a government watchlist and suspected of holding extreme religious beliefs, including about 150 serving jail sentences.”
“At an emergency cabinet meeting on Sunday, Macron announced a series of anti-Islamist measures including concerted steps against “the structures, associations and people close to radical groups … who spread hate and can encourage attacks”. Macron reportedly told ministers: “Fear is about to change sides. Islamists must not be allowed sleep soundly in our country.”
I’m not sure what you have in mind as ‘any kind of retribution that might be exacted upon the Muslim population at large’. Is ‘retribution’ something that should be visited upon people who have nothing to do with a crime?
I have friends in Paris who have three half-Tunisian grandchildren. Perhaps we could visit half as much retribution on each of them as on their fully Tunisian father (who isn’t an Islamist, but merely a grateful French citizen who just wants the best for his kids).
Could they be accosted as they leave school, perhaps, in the interests of generalised ‘retribution’ – pour encourager les autres?
White genocide is our friend?
I have friends in Paris who have three half-Tunisian grandchildren. –Who gives a f—?
Tell yr gay relative to go to Iran and ask for a legalization of gay marriage.
We’re still dealing with the legacy.
You see it as a legacy. Odd.
malthuss
I don’t recall suggesting that white genocide is your friend. Nor do I know what it is to do with the situation I discussed. I have pointed out many times that the situation in Western Europe (particularly the UK and France) is a direct result of colonialism.
None of the colonised countries asked to be colonised, enslaved or exploited, and they certainly didn’t ask to be taught English. The UK’s colonies and France’s colonies did not ask to fight in their colonial masters’ wars either, but they did, and died doing so.
If history had happened differently the second language of most of the world might now be Norwegian or Japanese, instead of English, and Norway or Japan might have been seen as the mother country by a whole lot of people. But what happened happened, and chickens come home to roost, just as the children of the colonies often aim to come home to mama.
I didn’t ask you to give a fuck about my friend’s half-Tunisian grandchildren. To give a fuck about the argument regarding visiting ‘retribution’ on innocent people would be more useful, but you don’t seem up to that.
“Tell yr gay relative to go to Iran and ask for a legalization of gay marriage.”
You tell him. You can explain directly to him why you think he has some obligation to do this. He’s intelligent, though, so don’t go unprepared and make a fool of yourself.
“You see it as a legacy”.
I think perhaps you are missing the richness of meaning in the word ‘legacy’ but I will leave that to you to sort out.
You don’t say it, you just imply it. If you said it, you have to deal with your own hypocrisy and of course the outrage of others. But you folks have perfected double think to avoid all of that.
For every Tunisian like that, there is two or more Salafists. But of course you disavow any relation between the set and the members of the set. Between the trees and the forest. You and Europe as a whole. Thus Islam may be bad, but Muslims are good. A profound logical error. Outliers like your Tunisian don’t change the error into a truth.
Macaroon has drawn a line in the sand. This is actually something, a possible beginning. They drew a line before about the hijab but the Muslims laughed it off because they knew the French didn’t have the guts to enforce it. This time may be different and they will pay in blood for it. The French will then hate Islam even more. Still not enough. Only when they hate the actual Muslims can the needed change begin.
In your defense, the Center Left assumed Islam would morph into an empty shell, a nothing burger like Christianity, under the influence of consumerism. That simply doesn’t seem to be happening en masse. Not illogical by any means, a worthy hope, but one that has turned out to be wrong at the level of the set.
Note: A worthy hope from your humanistic pov, the pov of careerist comsumerist pro aborts. Not mine in other words. Humanists are seldom humane.
Janos
“Thus Islam may be bad, but Muslims are good. A profound logical error. Outliers like your Tunisian don’t change the error into a truth.”
Actually you’re entirely wrong. For every Islamist in a western European country there are an untold number of ordinary Muslims, many of whom came to their country of refuge to escape the Islamists. This is self-evidently the case, given the number of actual Islamist attacks, although even one such attack is too many.
‘Islam’ is neither good not bad, arguably. It’s what you do with it.
Islamism, on the other hand, is to be deplored by any right-thinking person, including Muslims living in non-Muslim countries. Currently, most of them do deplore it.
My friends’ grandkids weren’t an illustration of ‘ooh, look, nice half-Maghrebins’, but to illustrate the specific issue of visiting ‘retribution’ on innocent people. But you knew that.
I don’t know what the point of your other post is.
No, Islam is bad (do some reading, say the Koran for starters) and it’s not really following it that makes it acceptable to you. But any bad turn in their lives can make them pious and therefore, dangerous.
One of Macron’s predecessors, either Charles Martel or Charlemagne, beat the hell out of the Muslim hordes the first time they tried to take Europe. He drove them back into Moorish Spain.
They Muslims are not there to co-mingle and become European, they are there to take over Europe. NATO needs to worry about them more than Russia.
And yes, convert to Christianity or go home might be in order.
Don’t look now but they are here too and increasing.
“But any bad turn in their lives can make them pious and therefore, dangerous.”
There’s some truth in that, in a strange way. The typical profile of the Jihadi terrorist isn’t someone who’s ever been a pious Muslim – they’re far more likely to be a petty criminal who’s been radicalised online. Often they wouldn’t know the Koran from ‘Great Expectations’, except from the outside.
Often it’s feeling bad about themselves and their shitty lifestyle that turns them. Easier to deflect your shame on to someone else.
I actually agree with you that it’s not really practising it that makes it acceptable, but that’s the same with the Bible too, otherwise we’d have stonings, hand amputations and people’s eyes being poked out from that direction too. And ‘witch’ burnings. Again.
“If thy eye offend thee, pluck it out …”
“If thy hand offend thee, cut it off.”
We’ve come a long way.
“the pov of careerist comsumerist pro aborts.”
I hope you’re not referring to me either as a ‘careerist’ or someone who’s had an abortion, because that would be weird.
I did what had to be done to put food on the table, which is something rather different from being a ‘careerist’. It’s the way most people live, men too.
@ Green Alba
“Destroy national sovereignty and substitute a large group of outsiders. Sound familiar.”
It should. It’s what European colonists did all over the world, over a very long period. We’re still dealing with the legacy.
Your argument is racist and anti-European. And very ignorant of history.
Long before “European colonists” went “all over the world”, the world had already come to europe a number of times.
You preening idiot.
https://althistory.fandom.com/wiki/Islamic_Invasions_of_Europe_(Umayyad_World)
The Islamic Invasions of Europe refers to the repeated invasions and conquests of Europe by Muslim invaders from the 8th century to the 18th century, ultimately ending with the defeat of the United Islamic Caliphate at the Battle of Berlin and Battle of Moscow. It began with the Umayyad invasion of Hispania, and continued with the invasion of Gaul. Following these two events, Islamic expansion began to slow in western Europe, but increased rapidly in eastern Europe.
In the Grand War, the Umayyad Caliphate expanded into southern Europe, first defeating the Byzantine Empire in the late 8th century, and expanding into Sicily. Using southern Europe as a launch pad, the Umayyads fully conquered Byzantium in the 9th Century, though spared Rome.
@ Green Alba
“Destroy national sovereignty and substitute a large group of outsiders. Sound familiar.”
It should. It’s what European colonists did all over the world, over a very long period. We’re still dealing with the legacy.
So you say that “We’re still dealing with the legacy”.
If the legacy of European colonization characterized as “substitut[ing] a large group of outsiders” was a bad thing, as your tone suggests, then why on earth would you want to impose black/brown colonization on Europe today?
In your mind, do two wrongs make a right?
Is it your idea that punishing Europeans today compensates for the evils of earlier centuries?
That would be loopy.
Wouldn’t that just make things worse?
@ Green Alba
While in some instances – especially in the Americas – colonization (something distinct from colonialism, we should note) resulted in population relacements, most of the present-day invasive races in France today come from countries where no such population ever took place.
European colonization in Asia and Africa had a sub-microscopic effect on the indigenous gene pool.
That is not what has been underway in Europe these last 70 years.
What is happening in Europe is flat-out race replacement.
@ Green Alba
correction:
“where no such *population replacement* ever took place”
@ Green Alba says
I’m not sure what you have in mind as ‘any kind of retribution that might be exacted upon the Muslim population at large’. Is ‘retribution’ something that should be visited upon people who have nothing to do with a crime?
I entirely agree that only those who commit crimes should be punished. I do not believe in generational guilt.
If you also feel that way, why do you say
It’s what European colonists did all over the world, over a very long period. We’re still dealing with the legacy.
This implies that you thinkk that Europeans today should be punished or made responsible for the supposed sins of earlier generations? Isn’t that hypocritical?
I think you need to sort out what you really believe because your current view contradicts itself.
@Kim-lad
Long before “European colonists” went “all over the world”, the world had already come to europe a number of times.
You seem to think you’re making a point that you aren’t making.
The fact remains that the vast majority of non-white immigrants and their descendants currently living in the UK are principally here as a result of the breakup of the British Empire, regardless of incursions of ‘the world’ into Europe prior to that.
Likewise the Algerians and Tunisians in France are there principally because of France’s colonial activity, regardless of ‘the world having already come to Europe a number of times’.
This has nothing whatever to do with racism or the lack of it.
But while you’re here, if you’ve got a better ‘no. 5’ for the Godwin’s list upthread, I’m happy to substitute it. No reason to stick with ‘hypocritical sack of shit’ when we could do better.
You are too keen on revenge and self-aggrandisement, Kim-lad, and not enough on common decency.
@Kim-lad
“It’s what European colonists did all over the world, over a very long period. We’re still dealing with the legacy.
This implies that you thinkk that Europeans today should be punished or made responsible for the supposed sins of earlier generations? Isn’t that hypocritical?”
It doesn’t imply anything of the kind, except to you, apparently. I thought you more intelligent. It merely means that we live in a multi-racial country for historical reasons (primarily to do with colonialism) and that multi-racial countries have challenges, which wax and wane. Only you mentioned ‘sins’ and ‘responsibilities’. I merely mentioned facts.
The ‘fact’ that the Chinese have a long memory with regard to the opium wars doesn’t mean that I consider myself to owe them reparations either.
Aren’t you getting a bit desperate?
“Likewise the Algerians and Tunisians in France are there principally because of France’s colonial activity,…”
According to reports, the Tunisian who has just killed three peope in Nice
“… entered Europe via the Italian island of Lampedusa on September 20 and arrived in Paris on October 9. The travel information came from a document on Aoussaoui from the Italian Red Cross.”
Tunis achieved independence in 1956.
So how is this terrorists presence in France the result of “France’s colonial activity”?
@ Green Alba
“The fact remains that the vast majority of non-white immigrants and their descendants currently living in the UK are principally here as a result of the breakup of the British Empire…”
How would “the breakup of the British Empire…” “result in” blacks and browns being in Britain?
Surely what it results from is from specific government policies.
And those policies – of mass third word immigration- have been historically favorable to big capital and inimical to the interests of whites.
There is nothing natural to any of this as you would suggest. There are no blind historical forces at work here. It is a calculated policy of race replacement.
“So how is this terrorists presence in France the result of “France’s colonial activity”?
Who said it was?
The majority of the Algerians and Tunisians currently living in France are not recent arrivals. Their antecedents came to France because of France’s colonial activities. That doesn’t mean that new immigrants don’t still arrive from e.g. Tunisia, especially if they already have family there. But the basis of large-scale immigration was originally the existence of French Tunisia and French Algeria. In most places, any existing immigrant pool acts as a magnet for new immigrants. I didn’t say this was good or bad, but merely that it happened and happens. I’d say France probably has enough of all kinds of immigrants at this point, personally, but I don’t run France.
The continuation of immigration from either France’s ex-colonies or its existing DOM-TOMs is a matter for current decision making, but the historical origins are what they are (I assume the inhabitants of the DOM-TOMs have the right to live in France anyway, but I haven’t checked and it’s a very long time since I lived there).
Similarly, the rights of Commonwealth citizens were enshrined in the British Nationality Act (1948) which accorded them the status of “Citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies”, This was not revised until the Nationality Act (1981), I believe, and there have been about 10 updates regarding immigration and related arrangements since then.
But it’s an improvement that you find yourself able, at least temporarily, to comment without using terms like ‘preening idiot’, especially in view of your propensity to fling insults and sarcasm even when you are entirely and provably wrong, as with the 1533 Buggery Act, which you couldn’t even be bothered looking into before your ridiculous attack.
Self-awareness – and even (whisper it softly) a modicum of humility – is a better look than any of your previous three dog-attack trolling incidents, based entirely on your wish to attack being stronger than your reading comprehension.
“How would “the breakup of the British Empire…” “result in” blacks and browns being in Britain?
Surely what it results from is from specific government policies. […]
There is nothing natural to any of this as you would suggest. There are no blind historical forces at work here. It is a calculated policy of race replacement.”
Of course it results from specific government policies. But those policies didn’t start from a ‘calculated policy of race replacement’ back in 1948, IMHO.
For a start, the country was trying to make itself into a ‘home fit for heroes’. There was a massive housing shortage, and part of the ‘home fit for heroes’ was the creation of the NHS (you will recall that back in WWI many British men were unfit for military service due to their medical status and a lifetime of malnourishment). The NHS had to be staffed relatively quickly – and many of the Windrush generation, as well as British Asians, helped staff it (their descendants still do). Staff shortages existed in many other sectors as well, given that the country needed to be rebuilt. The 50s here weren’t the same glory days that they were in the US, which was spared having its major cities flattened by the Luftwaffe.
You may see what you like in that – I don’t see a plan for race replacement, just a solution to a massive labour shortage caused primarily by the war.
I think the UK also has enough permanent immigrants. But I still think it’s unfortunate that seasonal businesses (e.g. in the hospitality industries) that used to be able to employ e.g. Polish workers now find themselves going as far as India to find staff. Locals can’t live on seasonal wages, but want permanent full-time jobs, like most of us.
Some definitions and context for which Wiki is good (and short) enough:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Asian
Nothing to do with empire at all, no!
And now there is massive housing shortage due to all the Asian immigration. This is when you’re supposed to feel “irony”. I don’t expect you to feel this, but at least you should pretend to. Ditto cold. Ditto hungry. They are last in line behind the Asians.
I’m sure all these early immigrants were legal. But that doesn’t make it right much less supported by the native Britons. Glad we finally got to the bottom of why you support this. You couldn’t explain it when asked, remember? Some kind of “moral” hocus pocus – as if White genocide is a fitting payback for colonialism.
Bravo, GA.
I think your perspective is generally referred to as “grounded”
Janos
How about if I support something I’ll tell you? And you stop telling me what I think and making shit up about supposed ‘payback’.
My nephew’s DNA test suggested we are largely of Scandi origin. This does not make me feel an obligation to offer reparations when I visit Lindisfarne.
When power only people congregate, the two other motivators, achievement and affiliation both are suppressed. That is why bureaucracies destroy nations and corporations.
Power is evil no. 1.
And the basis of the balance of power in the Constitution.
Marlin, this whole thing is a conundrum. I can’t stand Jihadists, but it’s true many Muslims are peaceful. What to do? What to do?
I offer one solution: Fuck the government and carry a gun. Concealed carry. I have this image in my mind. A Jihadist looking for a victim to decapitate sees an old man, bent over, walking with difficulty, using a cane. Wearing a yarmulka and having a long, white beard. Aha, a perfect target. The Jihadist waves his machete and charges the old man. Imagine his surprise when the old man stops, whips out his ,45 and shoots him.
Yeah, I know this is a bloodthirsty fantasy, but really, besides helping the Jewish person, it helps the peaceful Muslims. What other viable alternative is there for them? Deport all of them? Arrest the suicidal perpetrators? My way, at least there’s some justice, innocent parties are left alone. The Israelis do this. It won’t stop suicidal people, but it may convince borderline, not totally committed people to not act.
Bill, in this attack in Vienna it appears the initial target was the largest Synagogue in the city. By the grace of God it was closed at the time, and the Jihadists then turned their bloody wrath on ordinary strollers and diners in the neighborhood … apparently Jewish Austrians, Christian Austrians, to these demons it’s all the same, they all have to pay.
Brh
@ beantownbill.
“I can’t stand Jihadists”
I can’t stand Zionists, but what can you do?
They already have their own country but they refuse to go live in it.
TODAY, GOY.
TODAY ! VOTE GOY ! VOTE !
It’s your day, goy.
To foam at the mouth, spasmotically grinning and then grimacing, eyes bulging, fingers busily typing text to all of your network of goy “friends” your wisdom and wit and fears and of course, your agonies and ecstasies.
But at the end of this charade, this THEATRICAL RELEASE of THE TOWERING INFERNO PART 2, the ending will still be the SAME.
YOU LOSE.
WE WILL STILL BE IN CONTROL OF YOUR SORRY ASS.
With all our love, your friendly zionist globalist kleptocratic parasitic overlords.
Trump is not interested in any more foreign wars and adventures. Biden has insinuated that he wants to get re-involved in Syria and given that his handlers are definitely globalists interventionists and war profiteers it would seem a Biden administration would be more likely to engage in war in the Middle East. I personally have always thought a bit of fatalism is a good thing. But just like anything else it can become a bit too much if left unchecked.
Hmmmm!
Your observation about Syria makes me wonder if part of the Dem agenda isn’t to forward the debacle of Kerry’s fiasco deal with Iran. Is there any history of Biden dealing with Iran?
who r u
Tell me, sleek, what exactly is a zionist? And who are they.
@ beantownbill.
Zionism is an ancient ideology of jewish supremacy – going back to the occupation of Canaan, if you wish.
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-occupation-of-canaan-1250-1050-bce
More recently, it is a racist jewish supremacist ideology formulated in the 19th century under the leadership of Theordore Herzl and others.
https://zionism-israel.com/bio/biography_herzl.htm
I clearly defined “supremacism” in the comments of JHK’s last post:
But it is important – for the sake of clear discussion – to understand that this view is distinct from being a so-called “(white) supremacist”.
A white/black/jewish/muslim/chinese/whatever supremacist would be a person who asserts that the claimed superiority of one group over another should be enshrined in the laws and social practices of a society and result in the unassailable social and political dominance of said group.
Examples of explicitly supremacist societies might include the antebellum South, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and any country under Sharia, Zimbabwe, contemporary South Africa, Japan, Korea, China and most other Asian countries, Israel and any other country under zionism. India, too, or at least its separate states, could also probably be said to be organized on at least implicit supremacist lines.
Looking at this list, we observe that almost every country on earth outside of the West is organized on supremacist principles.
Yohannon noted, “Michael Moore in 2016: the election of Donald Trump will be the biggest fuck you in human history… But Newt Gingrich told Tucker the coming Trump victory will be even bigger.”
Too bad the delusional can’t hear.
Anybody know if there is a system to prevent people from double voting today after earl voting?
Oh wait, I forgot. There is no voter fraud, right?
It’s going to be a cluster…
One reason that ‘popular vote’ is nonsense. The Chicago necromancers would become even more powerful in the event of an end of the EC.
Every vote is logged against a registered voter. If you have already been issued a mail in vote, you can only be issued with a provisional ballot at the polling station. That provisional ballot won’t be counted if your vote has already been registered.
Needless to say, any electoral fraud that does occur could benefit either candidate, so it is a non-partisan issue.
Except one party indulges in it far more than the other.
And right wing militias could have threatened America. It’s not a contradiction like “the barren woman’s son”, but in fact it didn’t work out that way. The Left has always been and is the actual threat.
Sorry.
John, I posted this comment on Oct, 29, a couple of threads ago.
https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/last-round-up-at-the-wokester-corral/#comment-522656
If ohyesiam below is right, I or my sons should be expecting a visit from the election fraud police sometime in the not too distant future. I am betting no such visit will take place. I am also convinced that there will be large numbers of others perpetrating election fraud (sending in multiple mail-in ballots) without being detected.
@Q
I believe you are 100% correct only the super stupid and greedy get caught.
They caught someone here in Sunny San Diego dropping off hundreds of ballots and they were straight Democrat.
Why are you convinced of that?
I’ve described a safeguard against multiple voting which is very simple and very easy to implement. Ballots are tied to a particular voter. They are not just bits of paper with an X on them.
Grade 6 students electing the class President can manage this. What’s the issue?
And you know, saying “I am convinced” carries no weight at all. Show me the evidence.
A great Irish poet said:
“The best lack all conviction. The worst are full of passionate intensity.”
Apt words for the state of the US right now.
“I am convinced” carries no weight at all. – ohyesiam
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What you say is true. Do you think I or my sons will be arrested for what I have done? How much time will you grant me (without being visited by the authorities) before you concede that my election fraud, in fact, went undetected? A week, a month, a year? Whatever your deadline is, I promise to report if I am wrong. Yeah, I know, promises promises!
We cannot proceed towards the truth in this fashion.
If ohyesiam below is right…
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Oops, turns out ohyesiam is above, not below.
“expecting a visit from the election fraud police …”
““The Locusts are coming, armored and heavily armed as described in Revelations, their teeth will be metallic, and their bite, fatal.””~ Yohannon
Maybe….
Vote counting is conducted by utilization of the Stalin Principal, which is simply described as: It does not matter who votes, but who counts the votes.
The votes are counted by volunteers. Normal American citizens, just like you.
“The votes are counted by volunteers. Normal American citizens, just like you.”
Yes,
But the results will be parsed by lawyers.
Nothing like me.
The Locust Years
NOVEMBER 2, 2020 – 12:40 PM, by Malcolm Pollack
I am chastened by the discussion in the previous posts. (See here and here.) All I had sought to do in my original remarks was to point out the natural advantages of cohesion, compact unity, patriotism, faith, competence, and positive worldview that Red America has over Blue, and to suggest that whatever happens next, we have at least those assets to give us hope. The response was that those things aren’t nearly enough without effective organization, which we have failed to create. I must agree that this is a fair critique, and that the matter is becoming urgent.
Along with other historically literate voices on the Right, I have been predicting this calamitous state of affairs in America — this disintegration of national unity, and descent into ruinous civil strife — for many years now. In the early days I took a lot of heat for my alarmism. It would proceed “gradually, then suddenly”, I warned, and so it has — and now it is, suddenly, obvious to all that the crisis is upon us.
It is in the nature of the conservative people of the Anglosphere, despite their capacity for lethal fury when aroused at last, to prefer a quiet and local life until they no longer have any choice. (The old English saying “Never trouble trouble till trouble troubles you!” sums this up neatly.) The runup to World War II was a perfect example: even as it became clearer and clearer, during the 1920s and ’30s, that Germany was intent on diabolical mischief that would affect the security of all of Europe, the British, still in shock from the maiming of Europe in the First World War, clung desperately, and naively, to hopes of peace. Winston Churchill, who was the only prominent man in all of England to sound the alarm — and who was excommunicated from political life for it — would later refer to this period of squandered opportunity as “the years the locusts have eaten”.
And so it has been for us: for at least the last sixty years, a poisonous, corrosive ideology has made its long march through our institutions. The Marxist rebels of the 1960s assimilated themselves into every corner of our academies, media, and government, and made it their top priority to take charge of the education of our children. What they sowed so patiently for so long has now produced its bitter harvest. When Barack Obama promised, in 2008, that his election would herald the fundamental transformation of America”, he wasn’t kidding. (A lesson that we never seem to learn is this: when these people tell you what they intend to do, you should believe them.)
My own shortcoming in all of this is that I am only, by nature, an observer, and a reader of history, and all that I have offered all these years is a warning, a diagnosis. Seven years ago I wrote about what I called “Cultural Immunodeficiency”, an AIDS-like condition that prevented the West from mounting a natural defense against pathogens that threatened its survival; in the intervening years its effects have brought our civilization almost to its deathbed.
Can we now mount a reaction? The election of Donald Trump four years ago, and the massive outpouring of support he has awakened this time around, are heartening signs, but our national illness is now very far advanced. If we had sensed the urgency twenty years ago, we might perhaps have prevented the current crisis — but we didn’t, and it’s no use crying about it.
So: although the point of my original post was to focus on the positive, and to remind us of our natural assets, I think our commenters are quite right: something must be done, and it has to begin now. As I write, merchants in cities everywhere in America are boarding up their properties, knowing that if the Party of Love and Inclusion loses the election, its brownshirts will embark on a vengeful and destructive rampage. The era of comity and national unity in America is over, and we must face this horrifying truth without further delay. A resounding Trump victory tomorrow will, perhaps, buy us a few years without the government itself wielding its crushing power against us; if so, that’s a blessing, but we must not be lulled into feeding more years to the locusts. It is already evident that 2016 was the last “normal” election in America; from now on, nothing is ever going to be “normal” again, not for a very long time.
The message of our commenters “vxxc” and JK is simple: ORGANIZE. The Left has been doing this energetically for decades, while the rest of us coasted along thinking that, having “organized” in 1776 and 1787, we needn’t bother now. How to do this is not my area of expertise, but there are a very great number of patriots — ex-military people, in particular — who can help. I do know that it will, almost necessarily, have to begin locally: as the Framers understood, a “well regulated militia” is “necessary for the security of a free State”.
It grieves me to write this post, but history teaches us that collapse can happen here — it can happen anywhere, and indeed, given enough time, it inevitably does. As much as I hate to say it, it appears to be happening here today. I will confess that all along, even as I saw the diagnostic markers of national disintegration and civil war piling up all these years, I’d hoped that it might simply be a passing spasm of cultural madness, and that as the so-called “progressives” moved farther and farther Left, they would gradually peel off adherents until they marginalized themselves. Some of that has indeed happened — the seismic support for Trump this year is evidence of that — but at this point, with our political system and civil society breaking down before our eyes, a purely political solution may no longer be enough. We may very well have crossed the event horizon, and if so, we are headed for the singularity. Whether or not this is now inevitable — and I still hope it isn’t, as civil war is nothing to wish for — it behooves us to be prepared for what had, just a few years ago, seemed almost unimaginable. As depressing as the prospect of continuing collapse may be, we should begin to hedge our bets.
Oyho: We need to be drilling in city parks like American Patriots did before the Revolution. Why not? Anyone who has a problem with it is by definition, the enemy. It’s all perfectly legal or should be. If it’s illegal, it’s not the Constitution that’s says so but rather “the second set of books”, namely the protocols and addendums so loved by bureaucrats, lawyers, and Marxists.
“Second Set of Books” – so named by a poor man who set himself on fire in his suicide note, tormented to death by his ex-wife, her lawyers, the police, in short, the whole divorce industry.
The Locusts are coming, armored and heavily armed as described in Revelations, their teeth will be metallic, and their bite, fatal.
The Jews, Janos, the Jews.
Very pretty, but like JHK, you are getting carried away on the wings of your own rhetoric.
And the lemon flower is sweet. But the fruit of the “poor” lemon (as if it wants to be eaten) is impossible to eat. Many women are like this: good to look upon only. Gno what I’m sayin’?
In any case, as Malcolm X said, Only a fool lets an enemy educate his children. Why did we let the Left educate our children? In any case, we did and we have been fools. Late is the Hour!
You’re really just the digital version of the old guy with a sandwich board, aren’t you?
“THE END OF THE WORLD IS NIGH!”
Sigh. The young always know more, right? Thus little kids know more than you and animals more than them. This is decadence.
@Yohannon
I am too old to believe in the wisdom of my elders, and too old to idealize the young.
Folly exists at every age.
I was not mocking your age, but your apocalyptic hand-wringing.
Where are you from, Ohyesiam? If you lived in the USA you would know the hand wringing is about to turn into neck wringing. As I write the Evil Ones are finding box after box of “uncounted ballots” to settle the election their way – for their walking hand puppet Biden..
“The Locusts are coming, armored and heavily armed as described in Revelations, their teeth will be metallic, and their bite, fatal.”
Yo,
Excellent!
You think that’s a good thing? You are mad. Mad. Some of them will have long hair, like gorgeous George. Perhaps playing bass guitars. The use of sound as a weapon is only now being explored. Or perhaps only now being brought out. Focus it and you have the equivalent of a laser. Watch the movie Dune.
“You think that’s a good thing?”
Yo,
No, the comment. The word poem, the metaphorical reference…shows good effort. Is this not your strength? Can you not accept honest praise, even from the unwashed?
U B I
Is that what is in the works for USA?
the important people that Be,
are assessing the re-selection of
DJT.
This headline from ZeroHedge:
“Thousands Of Witches Are Casting “Binding Spells” On Donald Trump To Lose The Election”
So there you have it. Hillary is mobilizing her dark legions.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/22/pat-buchanan-trump-president-history-profile-215042
Pat’s been right about everything for a long time. He admits it’s too late for America and he’s right about that too. Can there be an America 2.0? Maybe, but only through fire and changing the Constitution a bit. I mean we can’t shoot ourselves in the foot again and let mind parasites destroy our people, right? No treasonous media next time. No Marxist professors.
No more trying to square the circle and bring spirit down into matter by force. No more trying to create the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth by ourselves sans God. Because that is what they’re trying to do essentially, though of course they won’t or can’t admit, being atheists and agnostics at best.
They’ve loved this liminal time, reveling in the pent up energy before the thunderstorm breaks, the delicious moments before orgasm, before the rollercoaster goes off the rails and hits the ground cuz they fucked around with it and then got in anyway.
The mode of order changes after today, to greater chaos or a swing back to regular law and order. The storm breaks and the rain begins. And even the period of liminality was regulated by Law, the primary one being its brevity. I envy them in their destructive joy, completely justified in their book. My book would never allow it. I hate life too after all, but Life has made me bear Its burden. Our time of joy will come later, if need be. Hold back that Day. But Destiny (Law) is all!
UH-OH, giant sunspot rounding the sun, soon to be facing the Earth. Children, can you say CME and grid down. Trump set it up in case he losses. If he wins he’ll cancel the solar storm. Now I know what his Space Force has been up to!
https://spaceweather.com/
Biden the grifter is lurking, prowling, just outside the White House, trying to gain entry through an opening Trump so thoughtlessly provided. Using the covid crowbar, he’s starting to pry open that weak back door and is about to come in and steal America’s heart and soul.
If he and Harris break through, it will be a time for the most awful, the most abhorrent, the most abject reckoning of all. For Trump though, it will be abnegation as usual.
If Biden wins, it will be in large part because of Trump and his mindless, maskless minions. Guilty of aiding and abetting the Biden burglar by refusing to wear the life sustaining mask, guilty of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, they will have jammed the death mask onto the face of the America we once knew and loved.
Pray it doesn’t happen.
I met a friend of a friend when picking up my kid from his play date today. Guy is a neurosurgeon who happens to live right around the corner from us here in our cozy medium-sized German city.
By the end of the chat he was railing about COVID fraud, and mask fraud in particular, claiming 90% of the medical community knows it is fraud, but many are scared to death to speak out.
I thought of our CFN LARPS as he calmly explained reality in that sober way only a German medical professional can.
Know it all neurosurgeons get on my nerves.
Remember, it’s not only about the efficacy of the mask, it’s also about the image and perception of caring and doing something to help. Trump wins without any doubt had he followed my advice.
Fauci once admitted it was symbolic as well. A token of submission as we have said. Like Islam, Covidianism is a religion of conquest that demands submission or else.
You enable fascism.
Tucson, it is an outrage and an insult to the American people for you to say such a thing. Much went into the election and Trump had enthusiasm like nothing I have ever seen in my life. A landslide was in the cards. And the counting stopped in the middle of the night and then all states that were his began to turn. You don’t suspect a problem? You think it is the fucking mask? Even thous 70% of people don’t want to wear them and prefer Trump not to wear it?
Please show your proof to us folks who work in a hospital front line setting but see the proof of evidence based medicine. C.diff, TB, drug resistance TB, go into those rooms with that infection with NO MASK.
Show the truth of your stance, of your statements on here with ACTION. Words easy and cheap.
REST of you go youtube there is a front line emergency M.D. called Zdogg great easy to understand video about COVID, masks, infection control. IF YOU are a PREPPER , learn the rules of mother nature.
I am going back to watch the MSNBC folks flip out, its fun!
Tucker Carlson: Kamala is starting to put on fake accents like Hillary before her. Trying to be a Southern Home Girl instead of a Hindu Canadian mulatto. Delicious. Tucker’s laugh is crystalline joy. He felt bad about mocking poor old gropes, but Kammie is far game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCZuMiz3EZo
AOC apparently feels insecure about her fake Hispanic cultural bona fides and tried falling back to speaking Black too at one point. Woman is such an empty vessel. They need to be filled or they will put on voices and adopt evil ideologies. Does she even speak Spanish? Anybody know? I’ve heard of some Latinx stars trying to learn Spanish to get in with the new and growing power – or market if you want to be cynical.
The above contains Hillary’s classic “I don’t feel no ways tired….”
I recently learned how to pronounce latinx. It’s latin ex. Previously, I thought it was latinks.
In any case, I do not use the term latinx.
I thought it was pronounced La-teen-ecks.
Merriams says, often read as l?-?t?-?neks
What it means is open to debate.
My keyboard did not copy that right.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Latinx
Hindu Canadian mulatto. I read that M word is a bad word.
Mulatto—-
The term is generally considered archaic in the United States by some and inadvertently derogatory, especially in the African-American community.
“The above contains Hillary’s classic “I don’t feel no ways tired….””
Yo,
Don’t forget the bottle of hot sauce that she carries with her always….
Did anyone else hear Mr. Trump on Fox&Friends today? He didn’t sound so good.
He must be very tired, I’m sure, after the blitzkrieg of rallies these last few weeks, but it seemed more than that…sort of deflated….resigned. Saying things like “it’s been… it’s been a great run…”
He’s in his 70s, he’s just recovered from Covid, he’s been flying all over the place doing rallies.
The man has the constitution of a concrete elephant.
Is Joe tired? The man is coming up on 80.
How much longer do you think Sleepy Joe will be around? It’s been over 20 years since he had that stroke, which affected his cognitive abilities at the time.
Can you imagine a Civil War veteran running for president in 1920? That what this extrapolates to. The only equivalent I can think of is 80 yo Paul Von Hindenburg being elected Prime Minister of Germany in 1932, which didn’t turn out so good for Germany or the world in the long run.
Brh
Kamala’s ready to go. Who do you think will be her VP?
As I said above, pray it doesn’t happen.
Churchil was 77 when he was elected in 1951. Retired in 1955.
He was terrible for Europe and the entire world in both the short and long runs.
” The only equivalent I can think of is 80 yo Paul Von Hindenburg being elected Prime Minister of Germany in 1932, which didn’t turn out so good for Germany or the world in the long run.”
…Sooo, Kamala is Hitler? I don’t mean a real “Hitler”, but a metaphorical Hitler? If Kamala is Hitler, who would be Hitler’s Willie Brown?
Are you suggesting Hitler was gay? I mean, you know, Ernst Rohm and Hitler had a “thing”?
…makes sense….
When Trump is in his golf clothes, he looks like just another large, soft, obese, older man. But when he wears his suit, he is another man entirely: a warrior in armor. And besides having a great physique despite the fat, he is supercharged with the energy of Will – or perhaps Destiny itself. He is no ordinary man.
His suits are tailored. When he is wearing golf clothes, he is wearing clothes that are two sizes too big at a minimum, like most Americans.
Clothes that fit are often considered “gay” in America.
I think for most of us it’s that we honestly don’t know how to dress.
“Did anyone else hear Mr. Trump on Fox&Friends today? He didn’t sound so good.”
Yea I heard that. How many appearances did President Trump make in the last week, 20-30 maybe? 1-2 hours each. I doubt if I speak for 10-20 minutes a day. Shit the guy is a dynamo. I’m 12 years his junior and he totally out-guns me. Joe is lucky if you can wind him up for an hour or two. Even then he babbles and spews nonsense.
https://americanmind.org/features/the-racial-marxism-of-blm/
Future historians (probably Chinese) will shake their heads in amazement at Whites supporting people who hate them.
It has been a project very, very long in the making Yohannon.
And whites are one of the least tribal of all the races. It is their Achilles heel.
And we cannot let Christianity off the hook with its turn the other cheek and its universalism. I don’t say this is the whole reason, but surely it has contributed.
I don’t know what the point of your other post is.
‘Legacy’— I see legacy as something good, despite the dictionaries meaning of the word.
My other post? I have many other posts.
What does “kack” mean?
Legacy is a neutral word. There can legacies of good and legacies of evil.
“Legacy is a neutral word. There can legacies of good and legacies of evil.”
The context provides the implication.
Malthuss
“‘Legacy’— I see legacy as something good, despite the dictionaries meaning of the word.”
‘ “When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more nor less.” ‘
Fine. Good luck in your communications with the rest of the conversing public.
People routinely talk about the ‘legacy’ of slavery. Mostly they don’t mean something good, whatever side of the particular discussion they are on.
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2020/11/02/toldya-m-d-confirms-that-bacterial-pneumonia-is-skyrocketing-and-masonic-burqas-of-religious-submission-to-the-covidic-one-world-political-religion-are-actively-dangerous/
He is one of a group of Tulsa doctors suing the city because of the mask mandate.
First sign of despair of despair: Chuck Todd, sleepy eyed bastard, when he spoke of the Florida panhandle and the White Cubans of Dade County.
What of the Florida/Georgia line, Chuck?
From the asylum one more time…
45 is about to be 86ed.
http://www.mentalfloss.com/article/51880/where-did-term-86-come
G’nite Kim
Just in: Missouri for Trump. Sleepy then sadly said Ohio is going too. We’re winning, brothers and sisters. We need to hit the ground running. Why not create an Earth Force just like the Space Force? We already have a military, you say? Do we? It’s against the Law for them to defend our borders. How unspeakably weird is that. Thus our “Department of Defense” is really a Department of Offense only.
The Earth Force will have uniforms of Olive drab to fit in with the Southwest desert. Unfortunately this color is also the color of Fascism. That cannot be helped. The Earth is colored as it is colored. Blood and soil are ineluctable realities.
Savanah Guthrie looks as pale as death. Lester Holt’s dark skin is hiding his devastation. Kasie Hunt looks like she’s about to cry! What happened to Texas? Did the Mexicans come over to Trump? Is the future of America to be a parallel with the California Prison System? With a White/Mexican (the Southerners) alliance against all others?
They had Corrie Lewandowski on. What a wonderful man. He said the Trump Campaign was cautiously optimistic at this point. No, they weren’t going to call it before “all” the results were in. As ever, the Left projects what they themselves would (or are doing) do onto the Right.
Thank God he’s back and the traitorous couple, Jared and Ivanka, are now in the background. He’s likeable and capable, they are hateable even if capable. Of course they hated him as evil always hates good.
Who could have ever, ever guessed that..
yeah.
Some [ so many!] are paid to play dumb..
And relation to Gary 7, the man from the future who almost overcame the entire security force of the Enterprise in physical combat?
Any not And
Unable to code reliably, Yohannon.
Looks like the “elites” are getting their [surprise, surprise!] preferred
result tonight.. who could’ve guessed?
No I don’t think this is going their way. Remember that Biden was supposed to win easily and early. Then last week the polls “tightened” but of course he was still a shoe in.
They are stealing the election right now as we speak.This is so much worse than I expected.
Ohio for Trump. Can you dig it? Minnesota and the West Coast for Biden. Loserdom.
Oregon legalized the possession and use of meth, cocaine, heroine and maybe more. I don’t know the details but saw a blurb about it on Townhall’s live election updates. And these are supposed to be the same people that just care so much about public health. Can you realistically imagine them advising the public “be sure to wear your mask in between tokes on your crack pipe”? I really can at this point.
Kasie stuttering and her eyes are moist. Biden about to speak. Is he going to concede? Very early I would have thought. A red mirage she says. So maybe it’s a pep talk from Biden. No attempt at objectivity or equal weight. They are clearly on his side and they don’t even try and hide it anymore. Nor do we. Two Nations. Or rather one Nation and one country. They are still angling on the slow mail in votes. Lawfare and cheating?
Democ**ts = CIA , and vice-versa.
Not that that other half of the Duopoly is any better; it’s just
that the Democ**ts claim to be of and for the People..
How sad. Last night there was hope and a normal-ish election return. Then it all stopped and they got to work.
Seriously. The Biden campaign has literally just called a lid. Is that basically a concession?
What is a lid?
Basically when the campaign calls off any and all activity for the day.
I’d say they knew that the election was going to be halted so that the fix could be installed.
Arizona may be lost. The nation may be lost. The suicide submission squad, the anti health, anti life people, Trump first and foremost amongst them, those who mocked and despised the mitigating mask, may have just cost us the election. Trump may have to declare ‘lawfare’ to win.
It’s still early, so there’s still hope. It just didn’t have to be this way, this close.
Five states have never stopped counting votes on Election night for the Presidency. Its outright fraud. Now Trump may have lost people over covid, but Biden lost people over lockdowns too. This in your face fraud though changes everything. The Elite want to disenfranchise us and take our votes away. Trump simply must fight as will all of his supporters. And the Senate and House are looking good.
They may still be counting votes for days with this unprecedented mail in vote. I’m crestfallen. Just didn’t have to be this way.
I’m sorry you are feeling dispirited but I think everything is going to be ok. This is how things are working out though I know it is not what we wanted to see. We knew it was never going to be easy. We have had to fight every step. You know the media would never give any assist to Trump. And they have given everything to Biden. I hate that you are down right now. But also keep in mind that the Senate and House are looking really good for Conservatives. If the worse case occurs and Biden gets in they will resist resist resist all the way. Think goodness the Dems plan to sweep Congress have come to naught! It’s going to get better ok. I wish I could say I promise and if I could I would and as much as I can I will. It’s not over till it’s over and it ain’t over!!
I had hoped that those who said we cannot count on being saved by Trump but would have to get out there and fight ourselves were wrong.
The deep state has too much power. They are showing that they can do anything.
There is nothing to oppose them.
No one cares. You are the ultimate gamma male.
Smells like fraud to me. Five states can’t count votes? Everyone else managed it. Odd as can be. I assume there will be enough ‘found’ ballots in the urban hives to magically put their corpse candidate over the top.
All hail President Harris?
“Five sttes can’t count votes? Everyone else has managed it.”
No, they haven’t. Many of those states have been ‘called’ because the margin between candidates is high and rising (and incumbency may also be a factor to apply) when the count is as low as 78% (New York) and 85% (Texas). Where it’s close, it’s just not possible to make a call without a higher count.
As I write, Georgia is a draw, with 99% counted, with less than 2,500 votes between them. That’s going to no-one today, and the recount will provide the GOP/Trump Party to uncover the proof of this much-claimed voter fraud.
However, that didn’t stop Mr. Trump “claiming, for Electoral Purposes…” several states. I wonder which wunderkind lawyer came up with that particular legal nicety? Maybe it was channeled from the spirit of Antonin Scalia?
“The Elite want to disenfranchise us and take our votes away”
SSL,
Well, the First Amendment has been badly distressed, and the Second Amendment is well along the way…they want our vote too?
Bastards.
Governor Ducey has had to swat Fox and AP for calling Arizona for Biden with hundreds of thousands of ballots still left to count. It sounds like Arizona may not be lost but stolen. Your governor though seems aware of the game and is trying to protect the integrity of the vote.
Who knows. Right now Biden is up about 130,000 votes. 82% in.
And it looks like we’re going to have two Democratic Senators here in AZ. also.
The ‘awful reckoning’ is upon us, just not in the way Mr. Kunstler thought.
TS.
AZ has just turned Blue, big time. Between Californication, moved in Snow birds from the upper Midwest, and Latino increases in Phoenix and Tucson. Legalized marijuana is going to make it a Mecca for the cartels.
Our father’s Arizona has just set in the West and a dark cloud has descended.
Legalized marijuana is going to make it a Mecca for the cartels.
What about domestic growing?
Immigration made for that destination.
Latinos, Africans, Muslims.
Yes John, we were right all the way.
Oh, Tucson, stop with the idiocy already. They are stealing it before our eyes. Nothing to do with masks!
It has everything to do with Trump’s response to the virus, which was horrible. Months ago I said that he may be giving us Biden-Harris because of it. And so it is.
Now you seek refuge under claims of stealing votes and fraud, refusing to face your own stupidity and short sightedness.
You went with your leader yoyo and joined the suicide squad, bringing us sickness and death, both physical and political.
Hide now under that blanket of fraud, cower, run from the horror of your misjudgment and its unbearable ugliness.
Liberal bikers are a disgrace to the Brotherhood. You should not be allowed to own a bike.
Men are tried in the fire like pots or gold. You broke, you broken pot. As a gold coin, you were found to be mostly impure, and had to be discarded as a coin, your gold added to something else.
Trump did fail to fight early and hard. He should have savaged Fauci and Birx from the start.
In the feather balance of Maat, your fear was found to be greater than your reason. As a man you will have to endure purgatory as your impurities are burned out of you.
What is this ‘liberal’? Why tarnish me with such drivel and dross?
No, I am of the ‘eightfold way’ which has no place for fear or broken pots.
TS
Professor Gelertner from Yale stated yesterday that Trump responded to Covid 19 pretty much as any president would have, Dem or Rep.
Brh
Well then, I’ll just have to disagree with him.
Tucsonspur – that is the simple truth. Thank you. Very succinct.
Oregon voted to de criminalize fentanyl, meth and heroin.
Phew, what a party shaping up in Eugene, Springfield and Portland!
Now every drug addict in the United States has a destination, a Mecca; all roads lead to the Pacific Northwest. Violent Anarchists, New Left Commmunists, political activists of every stripe, Utopia IOW!
BRH
Bend, yuppie central.
I have family in Portland. They just ignore and pretend it’s part of the “weird” that they appreciate so much. Much beloved family, but it’s safe to say I tend to avoid discussing politics with them. Much better that way.
Legalized meth will do wonders for the night life. Good luck getting your organic vegan burrito from the food truck after dark.
It’s amazing how a state like WI can be turned purple so quickly. I know many people in WI, and let’s just say Democrat is a four-letter word to pretty much every one of them. Amazing what two moderately-large metro areas can do to circumvent the will of the rest of the state.
Same in most every state, just saying WI has me stumped to even be in contention at the moment.
One person, one vote is an incredible thing indeed.
Agreed. And?
Really? Have you checked the history? WI usually goes to the winner.
Also, glad to report the sky did not fall last night nationwide. Some skirmishes, but guess we’ll have to wait for an official-enough call to be made to find out if pointless chaos is indeed on the menu.
Regardless the outcome at this point I think roughly half of the country will find the result illegitimate.
Fun times. Kindling is bundled high.
I support a civil war. This calls for it. Plus, it’ll be an Australian future for us anyway without it.
Yes, a casus belli.
How is it possible that the US is incapable of counting votes in a couple of hours?
I have worked as a volunter for elections here in Montreal. The polling station closes, we open the box, we count: 137 votes, 88, 37, 8, 3, 1. Two parties sign on the report sheet, the box is sealed, one hour tops. Then the result percolates up the election hierarchy. How on God’s green earth can I read: counting votes stopped and everyone went to bed for the night?
Fraud and necromancy.
Professional management. Maximizing the difficulty and the billable hours. Our 3,300 person precinct closed and counted in 1 hour. We have an optical reader and list of voters. It’s not rocket science…..
We have an optical reader and list of voters. – Rocket
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Something I’ve been wondering about is the supposed matching of the signature on the mail-in ballot against the signature given at the time a person registers. Are all these people doing the vote counting all of a sudden handwriting experts? Or is this match merely cursory? “Good enough for government work!” as we used to say when I was in the Air ‘Farce.’
When I submitted fraudulent mail-in ballots for my sons (which I wrote about a couple of times recently) I signed their names in my own handwriting and made no attempt to make those signatures look like my sons’ actual signatures.
As I have stated before I am betting those ballots will sail through without being contested.
I think that this election will point out the virtues of a quick count and resolution, that is, nothing in the way of millions of ballots still t