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The matrix of interests, parties, and people styling themselves as The Resistance, who tried unsuccessfully to cough up Donald Trump like a hairball for four years, may finally succeed by harvesting the magical crop of mail-in ballots delivered by unicorns in the gathering darkness this post-election week of mathematical wonders.

America walked wide-eyed into this signal institutional failure, the one that lowers us to the level of places in the world where the loincloth is a business suit and the only instrument of persuasion is a machete. The Attorney General, Mr. Barr, warned the country months ago in so many words that mail-in voting would invite massive fraud, and so it has gone, but exactly as predicted, in plain sight, shamelessly.

The Resistance dared to work this operation because there were no consequences to their previous seditions and felonies. Nobody ever answered for the many crimes of RussiaGate (and possibly never will). The lying slattern Christine Blasey Ford slunk back to her cushy life in California with a big GoFundMe bundle after defaming Judge Kavanaugh. Eric Ciaramella and his UkraineGate accomplices, IC Inspector General Michael Atkinson and Col. Alexander Vindman, never even faced an inquiry over their janky scheme. Judge Emmet Sullivan still refuses to follow the DC Circuit order to close the General Flynn case. Rep. Adam Schiff never paid any price for knowingly lying his ass off, nor did The Washington Post, The New York Times, CNN, and MSNBC. Twitter founder Jack Dorsey and Facebook chief Mark Zuckerberg are allowed to suppress the news and deform the public conversation because they’re more important than the rest of us, and they know better, too.

No consequences for these actors in a rough and dirty game, but great consequences for the USA — a now lethal loss of faith in the essential fairness of American life and the institutions that were created to insure it. Shame on us for letting it get this far.

Mr. Trump is a fighter, and some kind of battle will go on from here, but he doesn’t appear to have much help while the ballot mills still grind away his leads in several swing states. The whole wicked business is pretty sure to end up in the US Supreme Court, one way or another, and maybe that’s where some line can finally be drawn against the brazen bad faith that played out in the election, even as the forces of Lawfare go to work in the statehouses, attempting to engineer electoral college slates. They’ll have the assistance of state secretaries-of-state and state attorneys general elected with funding from various George Soros activist groups. I doubt The Resistance wants this thing to end up in the House of Representatives, because the peculiar math involved in that remedy could hand Mr. Trump the win there.

Sometime after this weekend, the news media will start a drum-banging campaign to convince the nation that the charismatic Joe Biden is president-elect, no matter how inconclusive the outcome actually is or how many procedural and judicial hoops it has to pass through before reaching a definitive conclusion. What if, during this murky period of litigation, the story of the Biden family’s exploits in global influence-peddling somehow re-enters the public arena, despite the best efforts of the news and social media to bury it? What if, during this period, Joe Biden himself is named by federal attorneys as a “target” in the already-opened investigation of his son Hunter’s, and brother James’s, overseas money-laundering op? It would be hard to keep that out of the news. What if the issue comes up of Joe Biden being a national security risk because of that grifting? Would he be allowed anywhere near the White House?

By the way, I’m not referring just to China and the deals that Hunter was chasing in 2017 when Joe Biden was out-of-office, but also of Ukraine in 2014, during and after the “color revolution” arranged by John Kerry’s State Department with help from George Soros’s Atlantic Council, when Veep Joe Biden was the official “point man” for US policy there and Hunter was installed on the Burisma board of directors for a cool $85,000-a-month, an arrangement that ran for years and netted him millions. The reason the investigation was opened in the first place was because there is hard evidence of a Biden family money-laundering trail through the Baltic States and Cyprus.  And there is a lot of hard evidence of how all this worked on Hunter’s laptop. And there are the two interviews that erstwhile Biden business partner Tony Bobulinski did with the FBI only a couple of weeks ago. Do you suppose that all of that is just going to the dead-letter office? I wouldn’t.

Couple more things. First, what do you get with Joe Biden and the Democratic Party running the US government? Official suppression of free speech and official management of the news? Official cancel culture? Official race hustling and gender identity struggle sessions in the federal agencies? Campaigns against “whiteness?” Endless lockdowns and a new round of global misadventures in “nation building?”

Then there is the question of Joe Biden’s physical and mental ability to serve in office. Even the Democrats understand that he’ll be shoved aside probably early in his term under the 25th amendment (or perhaps with a simple resignation, if he doesn’t want to put the country through another wringer). They knew that all along, you realize. Leaving Kamala Harris in the oval office, a candidate so visibly unpopular that she dropped out of the primaries before the Iowa caucuses.

One other thing: whoever occupies that office beginning in 2021 is going to face an overwhelming economic crisis. Oil production, which stood just under 13 million barrels-a-day at its peak November, 2019, is down over 2 million barrels a day now, and will be sinking to about 7 million barrels-a-day in 2021, which is far short of what we use. Shale oil is a bust. It costs too much to get out of the ground and the companies that put their mojo into shale can’t make any money at it, and can’t pay off their loans, and won’t get new loans to continue operations. So, the whole industry is going to shit. Oil is what has supported the US economy for a hundred years, and it’s over. Our attempt to compensate for that quandary by borrowing more and more money at every level is also drawing to a close. It will break the bond markets, the dollar, and the banks. This is the essence of the long emergency and we’re entering the heart of the storm now.

It will require a pretty thorough rearrangement of life in our country, mainly in downscaling everything we do and re-localizing productive activity as much as possible. This has absolutely nothing to do with race-and-gender issues or any of the other ideological horse-shit that has preoccupied the Left for more than a decade. They will never wrap their minds around it. They will only respond by creating more unnecessary mischief here and probably overseas in their panicked desperation. A demoralized American people will finally see the mind-fucking they’ve been subjected to and will rise to save themselves from the ground up, with or without their government.

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1,172 Responses to “With or Without”

  1. edpell November 6, 2020 at 9:21 am #

    Time for a war. Iran anyone?

    • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 9:33 am #


      Boy, you have a problem with Iran? Me too.

    • Amman November 6, 2020 at 11:22 am #

      An Iranian war.is exactly what the American people need, Einstein.

      • EnterpriseSpaceship November 6, 2020 at 4:34 pm #

        Donald Trump like a hairball for four years, may finally succeed by harvesting the magical crop of mail-in ballots delivered by unicorns in the gathering darkness this post-election week of mathematical wonders.

        Should read:

        The world should start to understand that Energy supplies, delivered by unicorns to gas stations worldwide in the gathering darkness looming since 1914, do not belong to the mainstream flying-carpet EROEI wonders – but rather to the force of the laws of Physics.

        It cannot be right that super tankers are bringing oil to America every 4 hours or 6, all the way from Iraq, for example, then the oil is re-loaded into airplane carriers to sail to the Middle East – for a fight for oil.

        30+% of that oil will go to waste travelling to America and another 30+% travelling from America back to the Middle East.

        What remains of it is hardly enough to cover for evaporation, leaks, food, running 24/7 media and Internet wires, and repairs.


        What “Time for a war. Iran anyone?

        Humans must stop believing in unicorns sustaining for them their current style of civilisation and endless wars, and start acknowledging the laws of Physics.

        No war will bring back the hey days of fossil fuels. The age of fossil fuels is almost over – no matter how most of fossil fuels reserves are still in the ground.

        The world must give up on its extreme, incredibly fossil fuels energy-intensive centralisation – running the broken engine of its outdated social contract.


        • Iananna November 6, 2020 at 9:30 pm #

          Well put.

        • ThorsHammer November 7, 2020 at 7:08 am #

          There are two things to celebrate about the 2020 Election Clusterfuck.

          1- The end of any pretense that the USA is a democracy.

          2- The Future

          CIRCA 2040
          Peace in our Time

          The former states of Washington, Oregon and Northern California. Joined by treaty with the former province of British Colombia in 2034. As the pioneer separatist state, Cascadia had the forethought to seize the Trident submarine ICBM weapons system based in their new nation, which deterred the US from attacking them until they could install an effective defensive system purchased from the Russians.


          The former Mexican State of Baja California united with the former states of Arizona, New Mexico, and Southern California. Upon being returned to its rightful owners a majority of the citizens voted to ban the use of English except within the confines of private homes.


          An International City of Refuge for those discriminated against because of their sexual confusion. Founded upon the old city of San Francisco and its Silicone Valley suburbs. Citizenship is restricted to those who can prove their homosexuality.

          GREATER TEXAS:

          After years of border wars created by Texas’ expansion into neighboring territories peace was finally achieved by the ratification of the Treaty of Alamo II in 2037. Colorado, Kansas, Louisiana and Texas united to form Greater Texas after Texans dropped their objections to the idea that there could ever be a Texas greater than the original Texas.


          The boundaries of the True Confederacy fortunately have been fought over and firmly established. As always the issue is the ownership of slaves. Since almost everybody in the USA is already a wage slave, the issue of who the slave owner is remains clouded by corporate ownership. Since black people who were the original victims of slavery have now become the majority in the Confederacy they concluded that the just thing to do was pass a law that only black people could own slaves, and those slaves must be of white European heritage.

          NEW ENGLAND
          In New England everyone knows their genealogy back to the Mayflower and their proper place within it, so it should be quite easy for the citizens to decide which states should be included in their new nation and which should be offloaded into FlyOverLand.


          There is no question that New York is not New England. And as a world capital of finance and corruption it deserves to become a nation-state all of its own so it will not be restricted by courts and laws meant for lesser beings.

          TRUMPLANDIA: (aka FlyOverLand)

          This new Heartland Nation was pieced together from everything left over after regional cultural barriers were drawn in concrete. It marches behind a distinctive solid orange flag embroidered with a mushroom facsimile with flames shooting from its top. It is known as a Trumpstool (at least in polite company.) Trumpians may not know what they want, but they know damn well what they do not want. And that certainly is not to be forever known as Deplorables after being so named by the most hated politician of the Old Regime.

          • Iananna November 7, 2020 at 7:47 am #

            You left out Gilead – who wants to be Ofmike?

          • SpeedyBB November 8, 2020 at 3:46 pm #

            Somebody should be made aware of Spellcheck. Spelling blunders degrade the “humor” of the submission.

    • Silverfox555 November 6, 2020 at 5:42 pm #

      FYI: Fascistbook has banned the sharing of Jim’s blogpost. Anyone on Parler? Other networks?

      Also: for you NY dwellers, check this out. Stunning times, everyone.
      “PRE-FILLED Democrat ballots sent to aged-care facilities in New York.”

      • MontanaMan November 7, 2020 at 5:53 am #

        I’m having no trouble whatsoever posting this article or any past article of JHK On FASCISTBOOK or Parler. I just posted this article on both. Just now. And I have been for months..

  2. Ishabaka November 6, 2020 at 9:31 am #

    Donald Trump is the first president since Dwight Eisenhower to not start a new war. That is going to change, as the business as usual American Bomb-A-Rama Drama resumes.

    • shotho November 6, 2020 at 10:07 am #

      It is worth thinking about that the financial collapse with its corresponding economic failure will be something that those in power for the next four years have to receive the blame; something like the Republicans in 1932. For those who believe that our republican form of government is now at stake, they might want to hope for a Biden win.

      • feralandroid November 6, 2020 at 11:28 am #

        I have been saying something similar. If Trump concedes now, and we go into a depression (I think we already are), he can run again in 2024 with his MAGA slogan. He’ll be able to point to the economy from ’16-’19 and claim it was because of his leadership, and promise prosperity all over again. People will be so desperate at that point, they may buy it.

        • QAintel November 8, 2020 at 9:05 pm #

          Sneaky. I like it. Make it look like Biden failed miserably on the economy and then Trump can swoop in in 2024 and regain the White House. With all the anger Trump is creating and distrust of our democratic institutions, the climate will be rife for a covert civil war to bring down the deep state.

    • bluedog November 6, 2020 at 2:23 pm #

      Yep but all the wars he continued and tried to get one going with Iran, until Russia stepped and said that was one red line you better not cross,then he tucked his tail and ran.The people lost their faith in this country and its institutions in Dallas,Tex. in 1963 when the governments involvement became well known in their hit on JFK followed up by the hit on his brother Robert,as old Abe said when this government and its institution no longer works for the people they have the right to change it,which is long overdue,its like an old rotten tomato that needs to be squeezed until there’s nothing left.Instead the people grind their teeth rent their clothes in fustration which don’t change a thing.!!!!

      • shotho November 6, 2020 at 5:31 pm #

        I don’t quite understand your reasoning here. Yes, I agree that something fundamental happened in Dallas and we haven’t had a president serious enough to challenge the power elite since JFK; maybe because they’re afraid that the same could happen to them. Trump might have come too close to comfort for them; it’s hard to tell, but they have been frantic to get rid of him. As far as “change, which is long overdue”, what do you have in mind? Revolutions rarely end in something good for those who started them.

      • Iananna November 6, 2020 at 9:39 pm #

        Why ‘rent’ clothes?
        Surely one can go to op-shops (Goodwill?) and buy something to own?

        • sophia November 7, 2020 at 11:45 am #

          He meant ‘rend.’

        • Yohannon November 8, 2020 at 4:56 pm #

          Lala is a true genius…..

    • james charles November 7, 2020 at 6:28 am #

      ‘”Trump hasn’t started any new wars!”: yes, but he’s maintained or expanded every existing one (Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Somalia, Yemen), launched a coup/economic war on Venezuela (on top of the ones on Cuba & Nicaragua), and done every thing he can{?} to start a war with Iran.’

      “ . . . the Pentagon zone numbers show
      6:59 during George W Bush is eight years he
      7:01 averaged 24 bombs dropped per day which
      7:04 is 8750 per year over the course of
      7:08 Obama’s time in office his military
      7:10 dropped 34 bombs per day 12,500 per year
      7:16 and in Trump’s first year in office he
      7:19 averaged 121 draw drew bombs drop today
      7:22 for an average annual total of 44,000
      7:28 96:5 bombs are dropped per hour every
      7:32 hour of every day that averages out to a
      7:36 bomb every 12 minutes . . . “


  3. Pete November 6, 2020 at 9:31 am #

    Thank you for your Service Mr. Trump. Mr. President. You fought harder for us than anyone would have, you succeeded against overwhelming resistance from every corner of government. You pulled the wool from our eyes.

    Thank you.

    We’ll take it from here.

    • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 9:35 am #

      I retain some small measure of hope that the courts will force a proper audit in these anomalous states, but can’t help but think that the fix is in.

      Whatever his faults, it’s high praise for Trump that the entire establishment in DC, donkey and elephant alike, despised him.

      • bluekayak November 6, 2020 at 9:47 am #

        Exactly – Whenever asked by the IYIs (“intellectuals yet idiots”, as Taleb calls them) how I could possibly even consider voting for the ghastly Trump, I would simply reply that his saving grace is that he pisses off all the right people.

      • Mountain gal November 6, 2020 at 9:49 am #

        @ Rupert

        True, which is why the GOP isn’t coming to his defense and so many RINO’s made it a point to distance themselves from Trump..

      • feralandroid November 6, 2020 at 11:23 am #

        The right is doing nothing. Why aren’t their 10s of thousands of Trump supporters swarming the polling stations in the contested states? Only the left gets of their ass and does anything.

        • benr November 6, 2020 at 11:27 am #

          A lot of those leftist trolls are getting paid to show up.
          We on the right tend to have JOBS and can’t just go off and protest anytime we feel like it.

          • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 11:29 am #

            Exactly that. I’ve got a family and a life, I can’t just take off and go several states away into hostile territory like some Antifa road warrior.

          • feralandroid November 6, 2020 at 11:35 am #

            Exactly. Its always some excuse.
            “I’m not being paid to protest”
            “I have a job”

            I can’t fight treason and communism cause I have to go to work.

            When Biden shuts down the country because of a lame virus, you won’t have to worry about a job…

          • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 11:44 am #

            @feralandroid No, you’re not wrong about that, it’s a critical flaw, but it’s also accurate. I’ve got a one year old. Baby girl needs me. I also question the wisdom of going into hostile territory without a lot of strategic support- DAs who drop all charges on BLM/Antifa will throw you in the clink for 417 years if given the slightest chance.

          • feralandroid November 6, 2020 at 2:06 pm #

            Looks like some people are doing something. #STOPTHESTEAL on twitter…

          • sophia November 7, 2020 at 11:49 am #

            They are protesting in PA and faceplant took down the account where people were informed. The protests were completely nonviolent.

          • sophia November 7, 2020 at 11:51 am #

            What if we actually have to fight for our republic or lose it?

          • Yock November 9, 2020 at 9:45 pm #

            It’s funny how the left seems to think they have some magical ability to blacklist people for supporting the Golden Golem when very few of them are ever in a position of corporate power to make this decision. In fact, if I walked around my colleagues and managers with a bright red MAGA hat on, I would probably be promoted heaven forbid!

        • KarlDehrmann November 6, 2020 at 2:14 pm #

          This blog started out as a resource depletion blog. As JHK mentioned, depletion marches on. It doesn’t matter if Ronald fucking Reagan’s ghost gets elected, industrial civilization, including America, is going away. That means no capitalist OR socialist paradise. Those Antifa, BLM, pinko-commie-cocksuckers you hate? They are going to starve in the cities along with most Red blooded, apple pie loving, good old boys. Any sane family man should only have one cause worth fighting for, and that is the survival of his children. Get to work!

        • freetrapper November 6, 2020 at 5:01 pm #

          “Why aren’t their 10s of thousands of Trump supporters swarming the polling stations in the contested states?”

          Ummmm… cos they believe in democracy?

          Used to be a person could lose in this country without whining that the game was rigged.

          • benr November 6, 2020 at 7:46 pm #

            Four years straight of commie whining as a result of 8 years of commie rule.
            Imagine how bad it will be after four years of rule by ghoul and the Kammie fool?

          • sophia November 7, 2020 at 11:53 am #


            All of the people on the right say that if they lose the election fairly, they will be fine with that. But when election counting is stopped, which has never before happened, and then after a few hours they find 138,000 votes for the other guy, who had been losing, and every one of the votes is for the other guy, does that not make it suspicious?

            Do you have any ethical or logical standards?

      • Pete November 6, 2020 at 1:39 pm #

        Yes… I share your hope, but life having taught me this lesson many times has me racing towards acceptance, after nano-abbreviated, denial, anger, bargaining and depression.

        The Pharisees partnered up with the Romans to eliminate the best known outsider who tried to expose their corruption, and they’ve been doing the same thing ever since. Now, I’m not saying DJT is Jesus, or even a prophet, but he is not the maniacal, evil genius, traitorous grifter, liar, racist the communist left wing and their propaganda arm has portrayed. He’s just an outsider, who knew how the game was played, he saw how UNFAIRLY the people were being treated and he stepped up, at great personal and financial risk.

        And he did give the American People an honest day’s work, as POTUS, each and every day of the past four years, while the democrats spent those same days plotting. And he was set upon, and meggered with each of those days. He did more for me playing golf than Nancy Pelosi did for anyone. And they fabricated a coup against this man BEFORE he was elected the first time. On what experience did they launch such an effort? He was a two time loser on the Presidential scene, a laugher. This honest man has been cheated out of this election because the democrats are covering up their own crimes. Pharisees all of them.

        Our stalwart host, James Kunstler, whom I believe to be on the side of truth, justice and fair play, seemingly underwent an ‘apparent’ transformation of political point-of-view these past many years. And he was castigated, and I assume it caused him a great deal of stress and soul searching. Now, I say ‘seemingly’ above, because I think it was precisely because Jim is representing truth and justice and fair play that he ultimately went with the evidence. And I say if JHK thinks the democrats are rat bastards and cheaters, so do i.

        Pete– I was never a Leftie, ever. I don’t know why so many people just assume that about me.It’s just not correct. — JHK Admin

        None-the-less, nothing has changed over the past two thousand years and I don’t expect it to change now. DJT did his job, and I don’t expect him to die on this hill. If all was supposed to be well and good and fair, God would not have put the apocalypse on his to-do list.

        • abbybwood November 6, 2020 at 2:59 pm #

          Trump was cheated out of the election in 2016!

          From the second he took his hand off the Bible at his inauguration he was cheated. As he mentioned a few weeks ago, he was never given a “peaceful transition”.

          I am amazed he accomplished what he did and at the same time was constantly fighting off Russiagate and impeachment.

          Now idiots like Olberman are demanding that Trump should be immediately arrested!

          Newsflash! Trump will be president until January 20th regardless of how this election plays out. And that is plenty of time for him to get “things” done.

        • Q. Shtik November 6, 2020 at 5:08 pm #

          I was never a Leftie, ever. – JHK


          You have been a registered Democrat since 1972. I always considered Democrats to be leftists/socialists. Am I wrong?

          • megaculpa November 6, 2020 at 7:33 pm #

            I’ve heard many people say, “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party. The party left me.”

        • Pete November 6, 2020 at 5:52 pm #

          Roger that.

      • Ungaro November 8, 2020 at 3:52 am #

        Biden only got 93.3% of the DC vote. Not the entire DC establishment…

    • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 9:52 am #


      Who are we? Not the accumulating gang of gimmes that have taken the presidency. Luckily, the Senate is still in GOP hands, but the grifters in Georgia have access to change that. Do not forget Romney too, who cannot let Trump lose without rubbing it in. The RINOs are the real rats in this debacle. Poor little bruised egos.

      The mail ins have done Trump in, the lazy minorities now have a way to input and cheat in all elections. How can there be such a difference between in person voting and mail in. Something stinks!

      The good news is, at least for now, is that the gimmes have lost ground in the legislature. The ult left is incensed because they realize there will be no repudiation of the conservatives. Hahahahaha!

      The country however is on a downward track. Global powers will gain as more Soros backed judicial people will be elected and appointed. The Deep State are going to try to change the public into gimmes, dependent on the government and voting for anyone that will keep the manna flowing.

      IMHO, the first thing the collective Conservative GOP needs to do is expel the members of the Lincoln group and the rest of the RINOs with Mitt Romney being first in line. Then consolidate its increased power in the Congress to form its own resistance to the socialization efforts. The biggest problem is that punishing the RINOs turns the Senate over to the bad guys.

      Good job, Trump, thanks for your service in trying to slow down the collapse of the US. Biden (Harris) are now pilots of this doomed ship.

      • thirdcoastlegend November 6, 2020 at 10:34 am #

        The Dem machine is working to flip the Georgia and Michigan Senate races as I write this.

        • SoftStarLight November 6, 2020 at 10:56 am #

          If they can get away with defrauding the Presidential race then do expect for the Senate and House to be flipped to the coup as well.

      • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 12:05 pm #

        Here’s the sunny side. Perhaps too sanguine, but Republicans DID do well and the Left may not be able to roll out their full campaign of terror the way they had hoped.


        I always thought it would be great if the Trump family started a news network and it turns out that they had thought about doing that very thing, calling it “Trump TV”. If he has to leave office, perhaps they could do that, tilling the ground for a triumphant return in 2024.

        • sevensec November 6, 2020 at 3:11 pm #

          Yes, but do you really think Our Betters will allow such a network to even be founded/licensed?

          My impression is that even Fox News is already pandering and triangulating in order to avoid loss of advertising and possibly blacklisting.

      • cbeard November 6, 2020 at 12:25 pm #

        ” The biggest problem is that punishing the RINOs turns the Senate over to the bad guys.” Sad, but somewhat true. Still have the dilemma of voting for the lesser of two evils. If Trump doesn’t prevail in this fiasco, then he or whomever runs for the office again that has the cojones to do the right thing for the country, should run as a third party, no RINOS need apply. Throw the bums out by ballot. Failing that, by whatever means necessary. We surely need a candidate who understands that perpetual economic growth is a fools errand.

      • sophia November 7, 2020 at 12:59 pm #


        Shame on you for capitulating in the face of such obvious fraud. Gee, if everyone did that no good would ever prevail. Yes, they cheated and sorry that I am disabled and have cancer. My right arm doesn’t work.
        Everyone who can should be out there, especially those who live in the contested states, demanding transparency and recounts and taking names of those who engineered this. FIND OUT who arranged for voters to be given sharpies, and so on. These people need to be charged.
        There has been a tremendous amount of fraud, it is being reported all over the place. Do not let it stand.

    • shox November 6, 2020 at 11:15 am #


      Indeed. Trump was God’s gift to America, to open its eyes to the demon which has swept into all of its halls of power and stands perilously close to steering the country to national suicide.

    • Amman November 6, 2020 at 1:09 pm #

      Not just every corner of the US government but some major foreign government scum as well.

    • Bytes November 6, 2020 at 2:22 pm #

      Yes, your post reflects my experience also. Never again will I view the “free press” the same. Never again will I view the US governments (at all levels) the same. I am definitely “woke” to the third world tactics employed by the Dems, the media, and the so-called deep state.

    • bluedog November 6, 2020 at 2:30 pm #

      I take it you belong to the renter class for they are the only ones that made out in under Trump, while main street got it shoved up that dark hole,you must love debt for he’s plunged the country deeper in debt in order to protect the wealth of his kind on wall street while main street is boarded up doors and windows then any one in history,maybe rather then kissing his feet like the Reagan lovers did for him why you can send the bill to Trump he well deserves it for his failed policies as if he’s still on his reality show.!!!1

    • Iananna November 6, 2020 at 9:41 pm #

      Those with the biggest mouths are always to first to hide from the consequences.
      The Orange Ogre being a prime example.

  4. thirdcoastlegend November 6, 2020 at 9:36 am #

    Beer Flu was seized upon as a cudgel to implement nationwide cheat-by-mail.

    Nationwide cheat-by-mail is a cudgel used to install the Chicom compromised candidate in the White House.

    RIP USA.

    • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 10:00 am #

      VBM is the fraudsmithing tool of choice the world’ round.

      This sort of anomalous ballot ‘dump’ has occurred in Europe numerous times, always in the direction of globalists. If a phenomena always and only ever benefits one side, it’s a good guess that malarkey is afoot.

    • Mostly Disagreeable November 6, 2020 at 10:16 am #

      Now this in JAMA:

      Science Denial and COVID Conspiracy Theories: Potential Neurological Mechanisms and Possible Responses

      “The COVID-19 epidemic reinforces the challenges of science denial. The medical community should mount systematic efforts around science education beginning in childhood and across the lifetime. Scientists, clinicians, and public health experts should engage in dialogue on issues of public health such as masks, vaccines, and medications. Accessible presentations should be part of every medical office and health care system. Attractive and accessible websites that post reliable data on health should counteract the false narratives that harm the health of the US (and other countries). A systematic analysis of “what went wrong” with COVID-19 policies during and after this pandemic is the responsibility of the scientific community. In addition, working with politicians to establish national policies to support rational science is critical. The practice of medicine is at the front line of the national concerns and conflicts surrounding truth and health. When science wins, everyone wins.”


      Soviet style “philosophical intoxication” diagnosis will be part of our New Normal

      • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 10:18 am #

        Refusing to believe our ‘experts’ is a clear example of mental illness, comrade!

        Only a madman would dare defy our omnipotence!

    • sophia November 7, 2020 at 1:04 pm #

      What do you plan to DO???

  5. So many liars November 6, 2020 at 9:44 am #

    This is all so nauseating.

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  6. messianicdruid November 6, 2020 at 9:44 am #

    Instigation of distrust will be met with blockchain validation thanks to the greedy banksters [ referred to as managers ] – a silver lining ?

    • sophia November 7, 2020 at 1:06 pm #

      messianic druid,

      Would you care to explain your remark?

  7. Mountain gal November 6, 2020 at 9:47 am #

    If the public didn’t care that Biden is suffering from dementia and engaged in crooked deals BEFORE they made him the DNC nominee and voted for him, why will they care afterwards? He’s not Trump. Period.

    The Dems have Trump just where they want him. If he files suit against the obvious vote tampering, he will be branded a sore-loser. The unsavory elements that support the Dems will then rise up in protest, the riots will restart and Trump will be blamed for this. He will be told that in order for peace to prevail he must concede and walk away.

    • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 10:10 am #

      Concession would be cowardly. He must demand an audit of these anomalies.

      We need sunlight in elections- vote on the day of, in person, proof of ID, inked finger afterward, paper only, counted at the precinct with observers and public access, all counting livestreamed and recorded for posterity, the hall with the ballots and boxes must account for every entry and exit from the room.

      The farther from that ideal, the easier chicanery.

      • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 10:11 am #

        Ballot boxes should never be outside of observation, ever.

      • Q. Shtik November 6, 2020 at 2:54 pm #

        We need sunlight in elections- Rupert


        Agree with all you’ve said and would add ‘proof of citizenship.’

        • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 2:56 pm #

          Part of proper identification and registration, really.

    • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 12:09 pm #

      He must fight as hard as possible, justifying our love and faith. Especially for those who have “walked away” and sacrificed friends and family for their ideals.

    • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 12:44 pm #

      Let the riots re ignite. There must be a business or two in Minneapolis, Philly, Chicago, Manhattan, Portland, and Seattle that hasn’t been burned out and looted yet. Why should they escape, its unfair.


    • bluedog November 6, 2020 at 2:36 pm #

      And what’s your point for if you had posted both parties are parties of crooks and thieves you might have had a valid point, but as it is you have none at all,do you remember Fla. in 1990 and Ohio in 2004 and Bush as he hooked and crooked both elections with his brothers help,where were all were all tears then.Its your country and you didn’t want it but the crooks did so you lost it,!!!

    • sophia November 7, 2020 at 1:08 pm #

      mountain gal,

      A nasty playbook, yes, but remember that the majority do not believe it. It just sounds loud because the mainstream media is already under control so its all we hear.

      We don’t know how many people voted for Biden, but I bet its a lot less than you think.

  8. brb November 6, 2020 at 9:50 am #

    Tump won the election on Tuesday…and will eventually prove victorious in the courts once the dust settles.

    But in the meantime, just imagine how depressing a Biden presidency will be. He’ll be out maneuvered in both Congress and the Supreme Court while hearing a steady chorus of complaining from both the insurgent Leftists and the center right.

    In response, he’ll Preside just liked he campaigned…by hiding from public as much as possible but with the added advantage of locking down the entire nation as well. Think the last 8 months of stagnancy & houre arrest have been fun? Then just imagine 4 long years of that.

    And that still might be better than the likely DNC dumping of Biden in favor Kamale Harris. With her lip service to the Left and her power lust, she is a tyrant in the making if there has ever been one.

    • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 10:05 am #


      Do not forget that the Black state of mind is subservience to a Massah and the Deep State is more than happy to take that role.

      Just like Obama, a Harris presidency has no clue what to do about minorities not fitting in this country. Both of them are going to find out that this is still a White country and the representatives of that group will stymie them, just like Obama. The Deep State has no idea what to do about just about every issue. So just more of the same.

      What are all you Trump Haters going to do without Trump? Without your rallying point, you have nothing to talk about but an old depleted figurehead and a radical that could not even convince her own party.

      Good job, America. You deserve what you are going to get.

      • thirdcoastlegend November 6, 2020 at 10:08 am #

        I am hopeful that Trump Haters turn on and begin devouring each other.

        That might give us a few cheap laughs.

        • newworld November 6, 2020 at 10:36 am #

          No one hates a Democratic voter like another Democratic voter. I’ll even take a stab at a potential left schism, around here prior to the election I saw very few people out walking with masks on the bike and walking paths, yesterday every snippy looking Karen white woman type was masked up. I’ll bet the white well off Karens go for full corona despotism in an effort to dominate the “minorities.”

          • thirdcoastlegend November 6, 2020 at 10:53 am #

            But forcing a minority to mask up is rayciss, yo.

      • MiddlePeninsula November 6, 2020 at 11:11 am #

        You are right about the Trump haters. What are they going to do? I can hardly wait for the riots. Who will they blame them on? I have lost faith in my fellow Americans. They think a senile old man who has spent his public service career engaged in influence peddling and is a child chest rubber and hair sniffer is a proper person to run this country. How will that work out?

        I salute you Mr. Trump. You did more for us in the last four years than we apparently deserved and for which you never got a modicum of credit for. God bless you!

        • Q. Shtik November 6, 2020 at 3:02 pm #

          and for which you never got a modicum of credit for. – Middle


          and for which you never got a modicum of credit for.

        • sophia November 7, 2020 at 1:16 pm #

          No, Middle, your fellow Americans did not such thing! What the hell is wrong with you people??? Trump won in a landslide and they have stolen it before our eyes and engaged in more voting frauds than I can keep straight in my head.
          Biden is surely the least popular candidate I have ever seen and Harris is lower than that.

          • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 3:39 pm #

            Sorry, Sophia, but that’s coming across as simply delusional. If it’s in fact true -as Night Owl claims regarding ballot verification systems secretly applied – then all will come out and you’ll be vindicated. In the meantime, why not take Mr. Trump’s advice and just “wait and see what happens”.

      • bluedog November 6, 2020 at 2:46 pm #

        And who hates Trump for he’s not worth the effort,a large part of the public simply judged him and he came up way short,the rest of us stayed home.He didn’t do anything except his failed trade agreement which put a large number of American farmers into bankruptcy,he tore up all the agreements on nuclear weapons,proving once again that America word don’t mean a thing,there isn’t a country in the world that will take our word on anything which proves that they are much smarter then the American voter.!!!

      • sophia November 7, 2020 at 1:10 pm #


        I’m a little surprised at you. Trump has a 47% approval rating among blacks.

    • shotho November 6, 2020 at 10:17 am #

      brb – Woodrow Wilson was hidden from the public for the last year and a half of his second term. He had suffered a thrombosis in Oct. 1919 and his wife would not let anyone see him unless she approved. Amendment 25 was enacted to prevent such a thing happening again, but it’s likely that the Democrats would shield him as much as possible. Under those circumstances, the country would probably drift along until the financial implosion that must come will force a situation that not even the combined forces of the left and right can contain. The center may not hold.

      • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 12:47 pm #

        Don’t forget the MSM and late night TV comics will be running flak and sucking Biden’s ass like you’ve never seen before. It will be epic.


    • Night Owl November 6, 2020 at 10:19 am #

      I tend to agree, but the Uniparty plan will be to tie it up as long as possible, fuel riots for the McMedia, and most likely attempt assassination at some point.

      If Trump gets through the ballot fraud via the court, then he will need to act immediately against the coupsters. I am not very optimistic there, as we are facing a large group of domestic enemies. The scale is hard to comprehend, but what we are witnessing now has been built slowly over decades.

      • sophia November 7, 2020 at 1:19 pm #

        Yes, night owl, you see clearly.

  9. teddyboy46 November 6, 2020 at 9:53 am #

    Looks like the Deep State has finally pulled off the Coup’ they have been working on for 4 years.

    I turn negatives into positives. I flipped from being a life long Democrat to Independent and alot of other Democrat’s have flipped too. Over the next 4 years we will build a movement that will win in 2024.

    • TheRadicalMiddle November 6, 2020 at 10:10 am #

      Not likely. If the Left succeeds in stealing this election, all future elections are at risk. Now is the time and place to draw the line or forever hold your peace.
      Typical conservative mantra…”Just wait ’till next time !” while shaking fist.

      • bluedog November 6, 2020 at 2:51 pm #

        Then I guess you are trying to say when Bush stole the election ln 1990 and again in 2004,that put all future elections at risk you may have a point there,but can you name me just one election since the country was formed that was a clean and honest election one free from pay-offs and back room deals.I doubt that you can.!!!!!!

        • FreddieMars November 6, 2020 at 8:50 pm #

          Blue dog, that’s twice now – it was 2000 not 1990

        • sophia November 7, 2020 at 1:27 pm #


          it’s a good point. two things: one, we suspect it but it isn’t proved, whereas in this case it is being done massively and openly. two, it is high time we reviewed our voting processes and tightened them up. this should be a bipartisan issue. this must not happen again.

      • sophia November 7, 2020 at 1:23 pm #


        i agree with radical middle. this maybe the last chance. time for men to fight? oh, did i detect a lot of males here claim to be men and all that? yeah, lick your wounds and dream of the next election!

        there is a time for men to fight. when you are slapped in the face and spit upon, isn’t it time?

    • Night Owl November 6, 2020 at 10:23 am #

      No you won’t. This is the stand.

      • cbeard November 6, 2020 at 5:04 pm #

        Agreed, it is now or never.

    • Kim November 6, 2020 at 10:36 am #

      2022 elections.

      All of the Reps. 435 of them.

      34 Senators.

      39 State and territorial governors.

      Lots of AGs, sheriffs and judges.

      • UN OUT OF USA November 6, 2020 at 2:17 pm #

        Kim, future elections won’t matter if the DS is allowed to steal this presidential election. They will get better and better at it. If we don’t stop this criminal madness NOW, it is game over.

        • Night Owl November 6, 2020 at 4:11 pm #

          Election fraud is not new. But the cartoon-like level of fraud in this election is.

          The amount of evidence available even now is staggering. As I said further down the thread, the brain trust who thought this was a good idea is our greatest gift.

          This was never not going to go to SCOTUS, but boy are these progs. and Unipartyists dumb.

          • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 4:24 am #

            Just waiting for you to provide us all with the blockbuster link to something about Joe Peiczenik & the secret blockchain tracking system on the mail in ballots. Surely you won’t disappoint!

        • TheRadicalMiddle November 7, 2020 at 10:07 am #

          Tell me I’m wrong, but the elephant in the room is that the essential services in this nation are provided by the ‘Trump Troops’.
          The farmers, truckers, industrials, oil, utilities….and on and on….
          College professors, students, media, woke protesters govt employees, etc do not feed and fulfill the basic needs of our nation.
          If ‘the real’ essential workers didn’t ‘deliver’ their services for 2 weeks….??? for 2 months ???

          This nation’s enemies’ are concentrated in the cities.

          Think about it
          Just sayin’

  10. ripburger November 6, 2020 at 9:56 am #

    Something that doesn’t feel quite right about your scenario of a total collapse of oil: when the first handful of shale oil players go belly up, won’t the price for a barrel of oil necessarily start to sky rocket? At least high enough where the remaining companies can extract the stuff profitably? Then we’d see consolidation around the handful of giants like ExxonMobil, etc.

    Read Gail Tverberg’s blog on why oil prices are likely to stay very low: http://www.ourfiniteworld.com — JHK Admin

    Sure, there may be more pain than I can foresee, but at some point a balance will be struck. I’m not buying the idea that ‘oil is over’.

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    • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 10:20 am #

      If the US is pumping less oil then outside sources are pumping more which makes us more dependent. OPEC is still out there getting ready to control the price when our capability to do so fades. World wide oil supply still fills demand, especially with a world locked down with Covid.

      Oil is not over, YET. But our control of the fossil fuels market is just about over. Any move by Biden to curtail the oil market in the US will be disastrous for us. Were you here in 73, when a perturbation in the global operation created a near shutdown in the US? This country is not ready for GND and voluntary or involuntary implementation of the program will kill many people.

      Let oil run down and you will remember the days of Covid fondly.

      • tahoe1780 November 6, 2020 at 10:57 am #

        World Oil Production – https://youtu.be/RhJMuqgVa9s

        First sentence should read: With a world locked down with Covid, world-wide supply still meets demand.

        I remember ’73. I could buy 10 gallons of gasoline on even days. You?

      • Night Owl November 6, 2020 at 4:36 pm #

        Oil is a finite resource, but the idea that we are going to face a crisis anytime soon is absurd.

        There has been movement in developing e-vehicles and more-efficient hybrids, but here in the land of the world’s finest automobiles (Germany), the only reason the Big Three are producing fewer V8s and IL- and V6s is that they are being taxed and regulated to death. If the crisis was as imminent as claimed, we’d be in hover cars by now.

        I see about 1 Tesla or similar once a month. And the infrastructure for electric vehicles remains abysmal. Oil ain’t going anywhere for a long time.

        • Kim November 6, 2020 at 8:14 pm #

          @ Night Owl

          Oil is a finite resource, but the idea that we are going to face a crisis anytime soon is absurd.

          The world is already in the oil crisis. It has been in it since the 1970s and all of its manifestations are obvious.

          US public and private debt are 390% of GDP. Similar figures for countries around the world.

          If we had abundant cheap fossil fuels, why would we be running those debt levels with near-zero interest rates?

          What do you think these covid lockdowns and Green agendas are really about? It is about crashing legacy economies, clearing out the legacy economic, social, and political deadwood, “Building Back Better” to streamline and rationalize the old economies for global integration – I am afraid that this means that most US workers are going to be “laid off” from the global economy – and to establish global energy rationing.

          Oil ain’t going anywhere for a long time.

          It started to go away a very long time ago. And the plan is that what remains will go away for some people but not for others.

          • Night Owl November 7, 2020 at 4:20 am #

            I agree about the lockdown — this is the forced “great reset.” But it is not about energy, IMO. It is about control first and foremost. Return to a feudal state.

            A global plantation is not required to refocus energy tech.

          • sophia November 7, 2020 at 1:38 pm #

            I think Kim and NIghtowl are both right. The lockdowns have more than one goal. But a big change is indeed necessary to get people to accept a very different, low energy lifestyle.

          • Night Owl November 8, 2020 at 3:37 pm #

            We may be, soph. The future of energy (as in how/where to get it) is certainly an issue, but I feel control energy (among other things) is far more important.

    • rainmaker November 6, 2020 at 10:42 am #

      The peons can’t afford energy products now, considering the wage suppression that has gone on for the last 25 years. Six dollar a gallon gas, anyone, anyone?…

      • FreddieMars November 6, 2020 at 2:30 pm #

        Most of Europe pays around the equivalent price, rainmaker. USD equivalent in Germany (average) is $5.35.


        • Night Owl November 6, 2020 at 4:29 pm #

          But very few buy regular gas, as diesel is mildly subsidized.

          The equivalent is about 3.50 a gallon, and with the improved economy of diesel and the short driving distances, the tank lasts a long time.

          US gas is heavily subsidized because the country relies on private cars for transportation and most people drive a lot. If that were to change, the market would, too.

          • Kim November 6, 2020 at 7:49 pm #

            @ Night Owl

            US gas is heavily subsidized because…

            It is impossible for a master resource to be subsidized by the resource economy it enables. That would be illogical.

    • oilie November 6, 2020 at 10:50 am #

      I agree with ripburger, oil is not “over”. All that is going on is that the shale producers destabilized the world oil market by doubling U.S. production at $70/bbl. We have paid well over $100/bbl (in present dollars) in the 1980s and again in the early 2000s. $40 oil kills companies and more than $70 stifles the economy. When the world economy picks back up and the oil glut is worked out, there should be a balance point that keeps the U.S. ticking while producing a lot of shale oil. The thing to remember here is that shale is a huge resource here and has hardly been tapped in other countries. If the rest of our economy doesn’t die of its financial or political wounds, shale oil will be here to fuel it for many decades to come.

      • Kim November 6, 2020 at 8:05 pm #

        Shale is produced by zombie companies that have to borrow just to pay the interest on what they already owe.

        This is only possible with close-to-zero interest rates. But close-to-zero interest rates destroy the economy. They destroy pensions. They discourage banks from loaning to small and medium sized businesses.

        The FOMC has just announced a policy to keep interest rates depressed – via more government money printing – for the next two years. Will this help sustain fracking? It may. But not if low interest rates also depress demand for oil. It’s a snake eating its own tail.

        In the meantime, the low interest rates will continue to destroy retirement funds. And the stock market will continue to climb on endless corporate borrowing, thus creatin ever-larger perceived wealth gap between those who own shares and those who don’t.

        “shale oil will be here to fuel it for many decades to come”

        Utterly impossible. What we will see over the coming decades is the USA reduced to a caste-defined state similar to India in the 1970s.

    • feralandroid November 6, 2020 at 11:50 am #

      Oil is not over, we will have it in our lives for a very long time, probably the rest of my life if everything doesn’t collapse. But in a debt based economy you need ever more oil to pay off the interest and the previous debt. We are not finding any new oil reserves, we are just extracting what we already know is there. 2018 will be the peak, and we are on the down slope on the other side. So there will be no growth, just a slow slide to a lower and lower standard of living, while billions starve and the population of the world decreases. The only “growth” will be a mirage created by expanding debt until the debt bubble pops.

      Read Kunstler’s long emergency books if you don’t understand.

      • kimmasad01 November 7, 2020 at 3:24 am #

        You stated your thesis then you explained why your thesis is wrong.

    • Tate November 6, 2020 at 1:06 pm #

      There’s an old oil field in southern Cal that’s been producing for well over 100 years. They said it was ‘over’ a half-century ago but it just keeps producing. People who don’t understand how probable reserves get estimated can’t figure this out.

  11. TheRadicalMiddle November 6, 2020 at 9:57 am #

    It’s doubtful, (imho), that SCOTUS will help Trump. Roberts is a NWO supporter, and will find an excuse to work against him, as he has previously proven.
    Also (imho), Wray (another swamp creature) has been ‘sitting on’ the Hunter laptop to use at his timing. Remember, ‘the critters’ have known, all along, that the election would be somehow compromised.
    Under a Biden administration, (imho), none of the Barr/Durham information/evidence will be made public.
    Nothing to see here….Move along folks !

    Just sayin’

    • thirdcoastlegend November 6, 2020 at 10:05 am #

      It is very possible they use the Hunter laptop to control China Joe or as a lever to force him out in favor of the Mattress Queen.

    • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 10:22 am #

      Jan. 20, all that data will be put into a safe and deep sixed..

      The Deep State has won a great victory here. The American people have lost a great defeat. And they deserve it electing in a cadre of Marxists.

      • SoftStarLight November 6, 2020 at 10:54 am #

        So this implies that you have faith that the vote count is accurate and not fraudulent. If you trust that then you trust the Deep State already John.

        • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 11:49 am #

          No SSL

          It implies that I think the grifters have won. All the lawsuits, all the bitching does nothing when the communication is done by the MSM and a Democratic judiciary.

          I hate the Deep State because they control the people now instead of the other way around. Can you see the Left, once in office, saying the vote now is useless and try to stop it. Watch and see.

          Want to see how capable the Left is now in manipulating the vote?

          Watch the Senate races in Georgia. Look at the Red Blue map to see how many areas are urban and blue, that is where the fraud is occurring. Just like Philly.

          And the candy ass RINOs are just lying down and watching their beloved Deep State run over the republican process.

          Trump was one guy, one that was fighting for the people instead of the DS. That now may be gone and we have turned into a nation of grifters.

          • thirdcoastlegend November 6, 2020 at 12:06 pm #

            The Left, much like Erdogan in Turkey, sees Democratic/Republican government like a bus…

            “…you get on the bus and ride it until your desired stop.”

            Voilà USSA.

          • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 12:19 pm #

            Yes, the correct pov. It is only an instrument. American blowhards turned into an Idol – and look where we are.

            If by some miracle we someday can create an America 2.0, would we shoot ourselves in the foot again? Allow massive Marxist infiltration of our Universities? Poisonous “free speech” by people who hate our Nation, Race, and Civilization?

            Culture is upstream of politics. Politics is not a Kantian “thing in itself”.

    • cbeard November 6, 2020 at 5:18 pm #

      I wonder who, besides Giuliani has copies of the hard drive. If this isn’t prosecuted then the rule of law in the U.S. is dead. Anything goes and nothing matters ,for sure.

      • Uncle Bob November 8, 2020 at 9:22 am #

        Oh, there’ll be prosecutions. The problem is, the people being prosecuted will be anyone who opposes the Deep State and its allies in the media, banks, etc. If you don’t worship at the altar of socialism and spend your life in mortal terror of taking any risks, you are a threat that must be eliminated. Also, thank you, Google and social media, for partnering with Chairman Xi to assist in the effort to turn America into a fascist country.

  12. James Kuehl November 6, 2020 at 9:58 am #

    Echoing points Kunstler has made before, there is great opportunity for those clever enough to adapt to the new, smaller, localized systems that will necessarily replace the overblown mess we are in now. Were we able to come back from the dead 100 years from now I doubt we’d recognize the place. Enough young people have said, “good riddance” to my suggestion of this path to give me optimism.

    • Night Owl November 6, 2020 at 10:09 am #

      If the US falls in this election, you won’t need to be clever to adapt to the subsequent global plantation. You will either submit to surveillance and living like a serf, or you will simply be pushed out of society.

      The idea that you are going to live in a little off-grid homesteading utopia is comedy of the highest order. China is your future.

      • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 10:24 am #


        China is your lack of future.

        CCP > ACP.

      • James Kuehl November 6, 2020 at 10:25 am #

        I’m old, so my future is a drastic rearrangement of the carbon chains that make up my carcass. China is propped up on unsustainable levels of hypercomplexity–not a model for any future I can imagine.

      • thirdcoastlegend November 6, 2020 at 12:08 pm #

        China has remade the world as it wants it to be:


        Xi won World War 3 without firing a single shot.

  13. nosepail November 6, 2020 at 10:03 am #

    Jim, your prose is as sharp as ever. But your analysis of this situation is frankly rather…..dumb. I’m old fashioned and put on a shirt and tie and voted on election day, but what the hell is wrong with mailing your vote in? And, make fun of Biden’s old age all you want, but compare the dignity and poise of these two men in the last 48 hours. If you prefer the frothing treasonous orange baboon, you’ve clearly lost all sense of judgment, and are deep in the throes of a Fox News senescence yourself.

    • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 10:32 am #

      The problem with mail in is that there is no surveillance between the time the ballots are mailed and are counted. Lost ballots, stolen ballots, changed ballots are all possible as political zealots in the USPS learn how to manipulate.

      A good start to making mail in work is to establish rules, make violations felonies with jail time and enforce the rules.

      Fat chance in this corrupt country. Mail in is just another way to cheat and get away with it.

      • pranah November 6, 2020 at 1:43 pm #

        I don’t even trust the voting machines in the polling places. But I will never vote absentee again. In person forever for me, or not at all.

      • messianicdruid November 6, 2020 at 3:19 pm #

        Blockchain, blockchain restores trust

    • elysianfield November 6, 2020 at 10:41 am #

      “…voted on election day, but what the hell is wrong with mailing your vote…”


      Not a damned thing if the correct mechanisms are in place in all 50 states.

      If experience in mail-in elections was evident in all 50 states.

      If the safe-guards required and understood from hard experience was evident in all 50 states.

      A methodology is required to successfully (read “accurately”) pull off the mail-in vote. Oregon has it, and has refined the method for many years. It can be trusted. Any bureaucracy will have major issues with a massive new system hurriedly put into place…mail in voting.

      That it was a new, untried system to dozens of states is what the hell was wrong with mailing your vote….

      • Exscotticus November 8, 2020 at 6:16 pm #

        “Oregon has it, and has refined the method for many years.’

        This is simply false. All states have experience with absentee ballots. No states have had successful experiences ramping up this effort by an order of magnitude, and sending unsolicited ballots on top of that.

        Pennsylvania Supreme Court says ballots can’t be rejected based on signature comparisons

        This ruling was effectively a licence to steal the election. No one claims untrained personnel should decide what sigs are valid. But they should certainly escalate suspicious sigs up the chain for validation. And this validation should certainly happen BEFORE the ballot is accepted! PA courts essentially nullified sig requirements and PA’s method of authentication.

    • benr November 6, 2020 at 10:52 am #

      What a bizarre statement lacking in critical thinking.
      Had you been attacked for four years straight and been accused of thins you never did you would come out swinging as well.

      Well now that I think of it you would probably be curled up in the fetal position in some corner somewhere sucking your thumb.

      Trump has been fighting back for four years and out there in public dealing with the scum of the earth ie the media and never trumpers.

      What has Joe done in the last four years of note?
      What has he had to deal with?
      Does the man even know what office he is running for?
      There is plenty of video out there showing him not knowing who he is talking to or about including calling his grand daughter by the name of his dead son.
      What you call dignified I call confused and not spouting off when he does not know what is going on.

      I saw my mother in law do that towards the middle and end of her fight with dementia.

      • nosepail November 6, 2020 at 11:23 am #

        Thanks for your feedback, Ben. I will do my best going forward to think more critically and try to interpret Trump’s behavior more charitably in view of his constant unfounded persecution. Also, I’m very sorry for your mother in law. I am sure you took very good care of her in her dark hours.

        • benr November 6, 2020 at 11:32 am #

          No worries people forget Trump is actually human.
          Considering everything he has done a fair job as President.
          Imagine if people would have given him a chance.

          • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 12:25 pm #

            “Frothing treasonous orange baboon”, but you have convinced him to change his ways. He’s well on his way to becoming a Republican and a Christian – all because of you!

            That’s why we love the internet – things happen so fast here. Faster than any soap opera.

          • Q. Shtik November 6, 2020 at 3:45 pm #

            Ben, you DO grasp, I hope, that nosepail’s second sentence was sarcasm?

          • benr November 6, 2020 at 6:06 pm #



          • benr November 6, 2020 at 6:07 pm #


            No really?

            Gee whiz!

          • elysianfield November 7, 2020 at 9:52 pm #

            I was informed yesterday that Trump essentially finished the wall, the last 400 miles to Brownsville TX being completed.

    • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 11:52 am #

      So you have joined the legion of candy asses that is in the process of taking power from the people and handing it to the government.

      Too bad for you!

    • rundmc November 8, 2020 at 8:33 pm #

      Nose: I live in WA state where we have had only mail in voting for about the last 8 years. What happens in our elections is exactly what is happening now nationally. Very unpopular candidates – like many Seattle city council members will be losing at the close of election day by large margins. Miraculously, by the following day, ballots will be “discovered” that provide those candidates winning margins. NO ONE audits our elections; NO ONE knows exactly how or whether the votes are actually checked against rolls or addresses.

      The largest problem is that there is no longer any ability to truly know whether large numbers of people are able to or are voting their conscious as we no longer have secret ballots. Let me give you an example: If you have a household with 5 voting age adults, you could easily have a dominant person in that household (or if most people in the household just don’t care about their vote) simply fill in all of the ballots and have the other people in the household sign the ballot. OR, let’s say my husband and I move to a different state. There is no requirement to “deregister” in WA, so another family moves into our home. They register; they get their ballots. They also receive ballots sent to us at our former address. Now, they have 2 extra ballots they can vote. Because there is no auditing that happens, maybe the signatures they sign get checked and maybe they don’t.

      That’s just the stuff that can happen where there is no way to know how to verify whether 1 person 1 vote is occurring. Then, there is the very real possibility that people can go to apartment buildings or just house to house in relatively poor neighborhoods and just straight up offer cash for signed ballot envelopes and then fill them in or have them already filled in.

      Why not do this when the consequences of getting caught are so light and the risk of even getting caught is so low? While the rewards are immense.

      So, what the hell is wrong with mailing in your vote? I’ve just given you 3. There are many, many more.

      There are always problems/glitches, etc in massive elections like this one, but the immense fraud that is unraveling in front of our eyes right now is staggering even for someone as jaded as I am.

      THIS is why neither Biden nor Harris felt any need to actually campaign. THIS is why they are pushing for Trump to just give in. They know what they’ve done and are counting on people like you to shrug and say – “I just don’t see the problem here.”

  14. Vadrosaul November 6, 2020 at 10:09 am #

    America is so far gone into their collective circle-jerks that the country has achieved mass orgy status across its two poles. As outlined by Mr. Kunstler, it is no longer capable of holding those in power to account for anything, and no longer has a powerful fifth estate worthy of sniffing the true meaning of journalism.

    Thus the old USofA is no longer a bastion of anything. It is as corrupt as Russia and as savage as a banana republic. The USA is only better at painting veneers over itself, and now that paint is peeling.

    I seriously think the only hope to salvage the country is a coup d’etat by a savvy military leader, a Cromwell figure who will preside over half-a-generation of (hopefully) empirical and rationale fiat. With that comes the threat of tyranny. That threat is a consequence of the emotional ineptitude and useful idiotry of the US populace.

    • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 12:29 pm #

      Bravo for your clarity. Martial Law is the only thing that will save him and America now. Does he have an ace in the hole? Kunstler’s God haunted Lieutenant?

  15. Rodster November 6, 2020 at 10:18 am #

    I hate to break it to you JHK but “NO ONE” is going to jail. How am I SO sure? Because the United States of America is no longer a Republic. It has over the decades become a Banana Republic.

    And with all Banana Republic’s this is the type of bullshit you see and get. The bad guys if not always, they usually win in a Banana Republic.

    The voter fraud is so blatantly obvious, even Stevie Wonder could see it. So all we have going forward is as you said more lockdowns, maybe going Boris Johnson and giving free money to everyone to keep them at home.

    But make NO mistake, this is not about voter fraud or Joe Biden and the Dems stealing the election, which is actually pretty amusing seeing how the United States goes around the world sticking its nose in other elections DEMANDING “free, honest and open elections”. LMAO !

    No this is not about the Biden’s or the United States becoming a Banana Republic.

    ……………This is all about “The Great Reset”. It has begun and the players behind the scene are now pulling the levers. This is their chance to change history and the Klaus Schwab along with Bill Gates are in the drivers seat.

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    • Night Owl November 6, 2020 at 10:21 am #

      There is still hope, but it requires victory in the SC, and immediate action against the coupster leadership.

      I agree, the outlook is not good in the long term. Seas of morons are walking right into this, too. Cheering it on, even.

      • thirdcoastlegend November 6, 2020 at 10:38 am #

        Not going to happen.

        Notice the DOJ and FBI have been completely silent about these hijinks.

        • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 11:09 am #

          DOJ and FBI are clubhouses for the most reptilian gators of the Potomac Everglades.

      • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 12:31 pm #

        The Republic is dead, but the Empire awaits – but He must act bigly.

        • sevensec November 6, 2020 at 4:23 pm #

          That’s the spirit. Hail, Caesar!

          (May it not be a Nero or Commodus, although I suspect we are about to have the distaff moral equivalent of that, at the hands of Generalissimo Kamala.)

    • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 10:49 am #

      IMHO, the Mexican cartels have big grins on their faces.

      Think about it. MS13 is taking over the New York area. MS13, the rabid branch of the cartels. They are taking over the place of the Mob in NYC. In Chicago, the primary enemy recognized by the Black gangs is MS13 and the cartels trying to take over the drug trade.

      I made the statement four years ago here that control of the illicit trades, especially drugs, by the globalist elements in the US is the real political big picture of the Deep State. They need the bucks to pay minimum payments on their $26000000000000 debt. That is the US portion of a global financial disaster in the making. Without this liquidity from the illicit trades, the whole house of cards collapses.

      Locally, drugs took a big step forward with more states legalizing marijuana and others starting to threaten legalizing hard drugs. A good measure of the morality of this country may be to watch the advance of drug acceptance by the people of America.

      The cartels are grinning widely as the results of the Mexican war are being reversed.

      • SW November 6, 2020 at 11:10 am #

        As marijuana is legalized, the small growers are being pushed out with huge fees and dropping prices for their crops. The big boys are coming in and taking over and as soon as that happens to a high percentage, then the banks will suddenly be able to set up accounts for them for the huge profits they’re generating. So well have our very own legalized, privatized drug cartel. Oregon decriminalized small amounts of heroin and meth this election cycle.

        • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 11:58 am #

          Soon we will be a nation of zoned out druggies who do not care what happens to them as long as they have their drugs. Hollywood is a shining example of that as we speak.

          Voting results will be determined by who can supply the cheapest drugs, whores, and slaves.

        • Kim November 6, 2020 at 7:40 pm #

          @ SW

          Oregon decriminalized small amounts of heroin and meth

          Great news. Now it will be so much safer and easier for heroin and meth dealers to do hand-to-hands.

      • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 12:35 pm #

        Another reason the Hispanics may want a Trump victory. Some of the better immigrants may have come here to get away from this kind of horror. But now it’s coming here.

        Others may want a Trump victory because Biden is for the Blacks and Black gangs and they are for the Hispanic gangs.

        Things get very complicated in a dying nation.

  16. Ron Anselmo November 6, 2020 at 10:21 am #

    The officially issued ballots are encrypted by block chain, watermarked. Not hard to figure out. The criminals are done.


    • Ron Anselmo November 6, 2020 at 10:22 am #

      The fat lady hasn’t even arrived at the opera house yet.

      • thirdcoastlegend November 6, 2020 at 11:07 am #

        Trump better move… media outlets are starting to chirp China Joe has PA and the electoral votes…

        • Ron Anselmo November 6, 2020 at 11:22 am #

          He moved last night, on record, before the American people. In his address, did he seem nervous, unsure of the ultimate outcome? Seemed certain and resolute, with good reason. He knows he’s got the Deep State on the defensive, as they well should be. The trick will be convincing his people. The Left of course are too delusional – too far gone. If Patriots give up – it’s over. So therein lies the outcome. Roll over or fight.

    • Vadrosaul November 6, 2020 at 10:30 am #

      Nope. There’s still a trainload of biased humans in the way, thus all it takes is a disinformation campaign regarding blockchain technology. Do you seriously think the prosecutors and judges and social-media-addled public could even grasp the basic concepts of blockchain?

      You could have God himself descend from the heavens and declare the Democrats as guilty of fraud, and the aforementioned sea of morons would believe it was a Trumpian hoax.

      • Ron Anselmo November 6, 2020 at 10:39 am #

        The patent has already been issued for use in election applications, for precisely this election. A second grader can understand it, and the implications. The Deep State has been set up – a simple sting operation. They’re done, but won’t go down without a fight. That’s where Patriots come in – or not. I for one, will not go quietly.

        • messianicdruid November 6, 2020 at 9:00 pm #

          Thank You Ron. They dont really want a democracy and neither do I .

    • Kim November 6, 2020 at 7:38 pm #

      @ Ron Anselmo

      Nice thought, but there is no reason why we should believe this.

  17. Jim Moore November 6, 2020 at 10:24 am #

    I’m largely here for the LOLs, and when I read “the charismatic Joe Biden” my need was satiated. Thank you, sir. Well done.

  18. newworld November 6, 2020 at 10:39 am #

    Well said Mr. K.

    I do wonder if the DS pushes Trump out and we crater in those many ways described how is old Joe going to play the political theatre. A President Harris assuming the D-party just doesn’t select someone else is just a viscous old gossip that no one likes.

    Oh well the D-party deserves it.

    • pranah November 6, 2020 at 1:58 pm #

      And who might a President Harris pick as her VP? I shudder to think who.

  19. SoftStarLight November 6, 2020 at 10:50 am #

    “A demoralized American people will finally see the mind-fucking they’ve been subjected to and will rise to save themselves from the ground up, with or without their government.”

    I hate to be contrarian Mr. K but I don’t think this will be possible if the current, so far mostly bloodless coup is allowed to stand. If an election can be stolen blatantly and shamelessly in the open without any major reaction from a squishy, apathetic, resigned public then you can be certain that all manner of blatant totalitarian power grabs and usurpations will be unleashed. If the coup is allowed to stand China is poised as the greatest winner. That is why the Chinese yuan is rallying bigly right now. If the coup stands the tenets of free speech, freedom of association, and even freedom of thought will quickly evaporate. Not to even speak of what will be the total annihilation of the right to keep and bear arms. The power that is apparently barging into the front door doesn’t believe in any rights that are not given by them. Any and all opposition to them will be mercilessly crushed should they attain power. We have been warned for a very long time now.

    • SW November 6, 2020 at 11:00 am #

      I agree with you. Any disagreement or resistance to loss of freedom of speech, right to peaceful assembly, privacy rights, or to retain a firearm will be cast as subversive activity and suspect. Orwell saw a long time ago the real possibility that the end of this road of government control was prosecution for “thought crimes.”

      • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 11:22 am #

        Any attempt to assert your rights shall be labeled a ‘hate’ crime.

        • SW November 6, 2020 at 11:35 am #

          A process of systematic intimidation — just what we’re seeing in large corporations and all universities where people are denounced for hate speech (a professor was fired for reading MLK’s letter from jail) and censored, fired or required to attend “sensitivity seminars” which are nothing more than re-education day camps.

          • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 11:42 am #

            Struggle sessions are for the ‘lucky’ ones.

            The rest will be cast into the outer darkness. If part of ‘building back better’ is UBI and UHC, I’d bet my bottom dollar that wicked ‘bigots’ will see their payments and insurance revoked.

        • Kim November 6, 2020 at 7:35 pm #

          @ Rupert

          “Any attempt to assert your rights shall be labeled a ‘hate’ crime.”

          This is one of the great uses of multiculturalism and sexual-identity politics. It strips you of your freedom of speech.

    • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 12:02 pm #

      If you are saying that the American public is comprised of people who do not know about or care about the American ideals, sign me up. That is the stupidification of America intertwined with the browning of America.

      The next problem, what can be done to reverse the flow. Janos?

      • SoftStarLight November 6, 2020 at 2:35 pm #

        At this point I’m not sure there is a reason to do anything. Perhaps it is better to just let it all collapse and see if there is a way to develop a new nation out of the rubble if possible. In any circumstance it appears to be a very steep hill. Trump will have to do something drastic to stop what is unfolding and I’m not certain what will be. I think there is a lot of disruption coming personally. Maybe America breaks up as you mentioned on the last thread.

    • Kim November 6, 2020 at 7:36 pm #

      China just took the final steps to owning the USA.

      All of your fossil fuels and food production is now theirs.

    • FreddieMars November 8, 2020 at 8:05 pm #


      The squishy, apathetic, resigned public refers more to the 70-odd million who voted for Mr. Trump, does it not?

      Where are “The Proud Boys” and those thousands of Weekend Warriors who play militia games? Heck, there’s not even street demonstrations of any note as far as I can find (on searching).

  20. SW November 6, 2020 at 10:52 am #

    “First, what do you get with Joe Biden and the Democratic Party running the US government? Official suppression of free speech and official management of the news? Official cancel culture? Official race hustling and gender identity struggle sessions in the federal agencies? Campaigns against “whiteness?” Endless lockdowns and a new round of global misadventures in “nation building?”

    You answered your own question, Jim. That’s exactly what you get. But that list can be added to — fines for not complying with whatever “for your own good/we know what’s best for you” covid restrictions, a Nancy Pelosi sponsored special investigation into corruption in the Trump administration (that will keep MSNBC et al busy and providing distraction for years) and a brand new list of people who are not allowed to work without proof of covid vaccination.

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    • SoftStarLight November 6, 2020 at 11:00 am #

      Yep. A very hard national lockdown is coming which will essentially have people under house arrest with jail time and bankrupting penalties for infractions. Meanwhile the street thugs and paramilitary wing of the coup will be free to roam the streets burning and looting what remains of any and all businesses not compliant with the coup. Then comes the house to house action as part of their game plan has been to make very extensive nationwide lists of people who have supported President Trump or who have failed to otherwise totally support the coup. This has all been posted publicly online for a long time.

      • newworld November 6, 2020 at 11:31 am #

        This week in Illinois near where I used to live a restaurant family owned was forced to close because of death threats, not the idiot governor or the local yokel gooberment death threats.

        Thank you far left

        • SoftStarLight November 6, 2020 at 2:26 pm #

          Death threats due to remaining open because of covid or a BLM/Antifa extortion?

      • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 1:10 pm #

        Yep, you got it right.

        Biden’s plan is to strip-mine America and load all the booty on giant barges headed for an as-yet undisclosed location.

        Young women of above-average pulchritude and breeding potential will be taken away so the powerful may indulge.

        All this is in Joe’s plans for the future. Read it online. It’s there…

        • Yohannon November 7, 2020 at 12:30 am #

          Wisdom from the mouth of a fool. Many a true word is spoken in jest.

  21. edpell November 6, 2020 at 10:54 am #

    Trump 2024

    • SoftStarLight November 6, 2020 at 10:57 am #

      There will be no more elections if the coup stands.

  22. SouthernYankee November 6, 2020 at 11:09 am #

    Remember, remember the 3rd of November
    Elections confounded and stole
    I see no good reason the country this season
    Should not run aground upon shoal

    – SY Talks

  23. Lynx November 6, 2020 at 11:09 am #

    I wonder how many people realize that Kamala Harris was one of the early George Soros DA’s. Today, those are the closet antifa/blm DA’s running places like Portland.


    • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 1:13 pm #

      Kamela’s agenda is clear – to insert smart brown folk into positions of power.

      Nothing puts the fear of God into whites like smart brown folks.

      • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 1:52 pm #

        Dumb Black folks ain’t too shabby either. Look what they’ve pulled off in Detroit and Philadelphia. That’s worth tearing the cities apart with burn, loot, murder, right?

      • cbeard November 6, 2020 at 10:43 pm #

        Snicker, snicker.

  24. shox November 6, 2020 at 11:11 am #

    “…harvesting the magical crop of mail-in ballots delivered by unicorns in the gathering darkness this post-election week of mathematical wonders.”

    LOL. Kunstler is a real wordsmith. Did anyone see the graphs of the vote-count trajectories for Wisconsin and Michigan? Just when it looks like Biden is losing, An INSTANT spike for Biden and NOTHING for trump at the very very end. Mathematical wonder indeed. I wonder if they realized they screwed up in Michigan and Wisconsin with this obvious and egregious falsification, and therefore decided to have a gradual surge of votes in the final few hours in Pennsylvania and Georgia, rather than an instant inexplicable spike.

    • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 12:05 pm #

      Fox’s calling Arizona when it did had the same effect.

  25. sstumpff November 6, 2020 at 11:15 am #

    Two things.

    “The Attorney General, Mr. Barr, warned the country months ago in so many words that mail-in voting would invite massive fraud, and so it has gone, but exactly as predicted, in plain sight, shamelessly.”

    Am I the only one that thinks we are talking orders of magnitude when talking voter fraud? In other words, ten 181 yo dead voters in Michigan or 50 retired sharpie users in Arizona are relatively irrelevant?


    “Leaving Kamala Harris in the oval office, a candidate so visibly unpopular that she dropped out of the primaries before the Iowa caucuses.”

    A popular leader leaving so a disliked and unelectable 2nd in command can take over actually worked out for us in Iowa. Maybe, Kamala will too.

    [Ok, let’s hear it]

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  26. catharsis November 6, 2020 at 11:22 am #

    JHK and other have failed to explain how the ‘fraudulent’ votes somehow allowed Republicans to flip House seats, hold on to the Senate and not lose a single Statehouse. If the Dems were stealing the election why would they allow this to happen? The simple answer is that more people revile Trump than worship him. The election was not about Reps vs Dems – it was about having an actual psychotic as President.

    A Biden presidency won’t solve much, other than providing relief from the anxiety of having the country run by the whims of a narcissistic sociopath.

    Post-election, it is the Rep. Senate that will be the biggest threat to the country. It will not deal sufficiently with the COVID crisis, or provide the necessary economic stimulus to save the economy, or address climate change. It will be just like the McConnell Senate during the Obama years, whose only purpose was to deny the President any legislation, good or bad – the people be damned.

    • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 11:24 am #

      They only needs rig one race, really. There is always a bit of mismatch between top of the ballot and down ballot races, but it’s usually less than a percent.

      We have several states now, all places where the counting was ‘stopped’ and tomfoolery is underway, where Mr. Biden is up 100k+ relative his party’s performance down ballot, without any noted crossover- hundreds of thousands of individuals who /only/ voted for president and no other office, all leaning towards Mr. Biden.

      This is extremely unusual to say the least, worth investigation and audit.

    • feralandroid November 6, 2020 at 12:11 pm #

      Actually this is something the Dems need to explain. How do you have Biden numbers going up over 100k overnight but not have the numbers of any of the senators going up? 100% of the ballots were for Biden and did left the down ballot blank? Not likely.

  27. Pucker November 6, 2020 at 11:23 am #

    Best case scenario: No fraud, but what it looks like: Trumps leading on election night, but in the wee hours of the morning, they stop counting the ballots ostensibly because “they need to get some sleep” (which is ridiculous and absurd on its face). Slowly, Trumps lead is miraculously eroded and the absentee ballots overwhelmingly come in in favor of Biden. In some cases, literally thousands of ballots materialize all in favor of Biden and zero for Trump, which is impossible. Republican observers clamor to observe the process, but they are repeatedly thwarted. Guiliani gets a Court Order to allow Republican observers view the process in Pennsylvania, but he is again denied in contravention of the Court Order. In Pennsylvania, the low IQ drones counting the ballots literally tape pizza boxes to the windows to obscure any observation of their shenanigans. (Fat people love pizza.). This all in the context of Attorney General Barr, Tulsi Gabbard, Trump, and others having vociferously warned months ahead of the election of potential problems with absentee ballots. It’s so blatant. You can’t make this shit up. What a disaster! If you’re going to cheat, at least try to cheat competently. The Americans look incredibly dishonest, incompetent, and dumb. What a trifecta…. Dumb motherfuckers….

    • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 11:28 am #

      Anyone who isn’t at least willing to support a full audit of these irregularities is acting in bad faith or is a dupe.

      The sewage might actually be a banquet but I’m not taking the words of people demanding we accept what smells an awful lot like a latrine as a banquet table without properly inspecting it first.

      • freetrapper November 6, 2020 at 6:44 pm #

        How about this equally blatant scenario:

        1) Trump warns without basis (when did this many ever need any basis for what he says?) that mail-in voting will lead to fraud and is not needed anyways cos who’s afraid of a pandemic his actions have allowed to run amok in his country anyways? So Trump voters (people who think every word that comes from this pathological liar’s mouth is gospel) do their voting primarily at the ballot box on election day. These ballots are first to be counted and are naturally in favor of Trump;

        2) Meanwhile Biden, correctly identifying the pandemic as a real threat, endorses mail-in voting. His electorate agree with him that this makes some sense and account for most of the absentee ballots;

        3) It is only logical that ballots counted after election day will favor Biden.

        Come on folks, this takes no great visionary to see.

        • messianicdruid November 6, 2020 at 9:33 pm #

          “So Trump voters (people who think every word that comes from this pathological liar’s mouth is gospel) do their voting primarily at the ballot box on election day. These ballots are first to be counted and are naturally in favor of Trump ”

          The first votes counted are the rural votes, which favor Trump, then they know how many more are needed.

          btw: even though I voted for him, I must not be a Trump voter [ ?! ]

        • sjpurtill November 7, 2020 at 6:20 pm #

          Finally, someone fucking sane.

  28. Northern Neck November 6, 2020 at 12:06 pm #

    How many of us who read this blog every Monday and Friday make a regular monthly contribution to Kunstler’s Patreon fund? It aint much but he gets $5 a month from me. I figure enough of us contribute maybe Jim could build “A World Made By Hand” theme park out of some abandoned Catskills summer camp. The place would have no electricity, no motor vehicles, no fast food but lots of comraderie where
    CFN’ers could gather and teach each other skills like hunting and fishing, game cookery, vegetable gardening and metal working. Animal husbandry, pig butchering and candle making would be on the menu.
    No sheets, bring your own bed roll and fry pan. The park could become a new Burning Man without the weirdness.

    • Iananna November 7, 2020 at 7:42 am #

      More than 95% of the posters here would have to be excluded for there it to be “without the weirdness“.

  29. holdfastspike November 6, 2020 at 12:09 pm #

    After Bidens “win” China will magically produce a vaccine. All win be calm.

    • holdfastspike November 6, 2020 at 12:11 pm #


  30. edpell November 6, 2020 at 12:09 pm #

    I think the blue haired lesbians are not going to like tiger mom Kalama.

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  31. kris2244 November 6, 2020 at 12:12 pm #

    Jimmy, you’ve become a disgrace. Pathetic.

    • kimmasad01 November 7, 2020 at 3:33 am #

      You are a disgrace. Really.

  32. RaymondR November 6, 2020 at 12:18 pm #

    Looking from the outside, American politics have taken a dark turn. Close to half the voters will not accept that the result of the election as legitimate.

    Both parties will be discredited out of this dumpster fire of an election. The good news is that there is an opportunity for a new populist party to bring together both Trumpeters and Bernie Bros into something that will advocate for ordinary people. Surely in a nation of 330+ million people there are a few people who can organize a new approach to politics now that the old establishment is thoroughly discredited. That would be better than civil disorder or open revolt.

    • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 12:47 pm #

      The Bernie Bros are classical Communists. In other words, fools and true believers. What’s coming is real Communism, namely corruption and terror.

      There is simply no common ground between Trumpism and Communism.

      Why was Bernie elbowed aside? Because he might actually believe some of this stuff. Given authority, he might have become a problem. Kamala believes nothing and will take direction. And she’s a known hard ass who will enjoy her work of crushing. Bernie has too soft a heart.

    • Kim November 6, 2020 at 7:28 pm #

      @ RaymondR

      The good news is that there is an opportunity for a new populist party to bring together both Trumpeters and Bernie Bros into something that will advocate for ordinary people.

      Is this some kind of joke?

      Bernie is part of the whole fraud.

      And how would they oppose the Deep State, or abuse of 230, or massive poll fraud?

  33. BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 12:29 pm #

    Jim, don’t worry about oil. It is pointed out nearly every day in the Guardian and the NYTs that the age of oil is over, it is no longer a necessary commodity, and the only thing keeping it propped up is President Trump, Exxon executives, and evil, unwoke whites. This whole place can be run on windmills, solar panels and pixie dust, no problemo.


    • Amman November 6, 2020 at 12:44 pm #

      Try to understand JHK’s point on oil. There is a funding structure and debt crisis viz oil. He is not writing on the basis of ecological horseshit.

  34. jeff2002 November 6, 2020 at 12:30 pm #

    I read The Long Emergency nearly 15 years ago. It made sense then, but still felt a bit like a “worst case” dystopia. But now, goddamn, it’s here. JHK was always right, it was just a matter of when.

    “With or without” the government says it all. We can no longer depend on institutions hollowed out by rot that we, as citizens, allowed to happen because we turned democracy into a spectator sport.

    We are about to be tested like we never imagined. For me, having lost my career to this manipulated “pandemic” and seeing nothing but obedient programmed citizens everywhere I go, all I want to do is delve into my journals photos and think of happier times. The past is the only place worth living if you can’t imagine a future.

    • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 12:44 pm #

      manipulated pandemic – please tell us more…

      • Amman November 6, 2020 at 1:06 pm #

        There was no pandemic. It was and has always been a cynical “PLANdemic.” PCR tests, death statistics, media hype – all this was planned, faked and employed as an Global Political Force against the Trump-USA and the rest of the World. It will be, ultimately, all in vain.

        • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 1:14 pm #

          You should tell a roomful of victims families that. Maybe without an armed escort.

          • jeff2002 November 6, 2020 at 2:04 pm #

            There are many reasons why the death count is so high, and likely inflated. Over 40% of US deaths occurred in nursing homes, which were poorly protected. Up to 30% of excess deaths were due not to the virus, but to the effects of lockdowns (including delayed medical diagnoses, treatments, and “deaths of despair” from lost livelihoods), and the full effects of lockdowns are not yet known. Fatal mismanagement of the virus (through ill-advised intubation of patients) also led to many preventable deaths. Hospitals were given financial incentives to diagnose Covid-19 as cause of death, even without a positive lab test or autopsy. For starters.

            But the real smoking gun is the CDC’s sudden change, in March, to its ICD coding guidance for filling out death certificates, which threw in the trash the longstanding Medical Examiner’s and Coroner’s Handbook in favor of new, very broad guidance that effectively inverted the importance of co-morbidities in cause of death. (There are many places you can read about this, but I’m happy to provide links.)

            The changes were expressed most bluntly by Illinois Department of Public Health director Dr. Ngozi Ezike, who said in April, “Technically even if you died of a clear alternate cause, but you had Covid at the same time, it’s still listed as a Covid death. So, everyone who’s listed as a Covid death doesn’t mean that that was the cause of the death, but they had Covid at the time of death.” Huh?


          • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 2:07 pm #

            And after they beat him up, does that disprove his point? You consider force the arbiter of Truth?

            Thanks for outing yourself, savage.

          • cbeard November 7, 2020 at 7:52 am #

            The plandemic is a typical viral flue season phenomena. Worse than some, better than some others. It is totally media driven hype and bullshit. All about politics and power. In my own locale, I don’t personally know anyone who has died from Covid, fuck covid, let’s call it what it is, the flu. I have several friends who tested positive for it and became sick as in a typical flu. They all recovered quickly(week or two). Their ages ranged from early 30’s to mid 60’s. We should have followed the path taken by Sweden and a few others. The lockdowns are insane. I don’t need an armed escort.

  35. Helix November 6, 2020 at 12:31 pm #

    Christallmighty, the hyperbole on the website is getting nauseating. Have you no faith in America? No faith in your fellow countrymen?

    It’s the kind partisan rhetoric emanating from websites like this, added to the equal and opposite rhetoric emanating from the other side, that is actually the greatest danger to our country. Dangerous in that it normalizes the the spread of charges without evidence. Dangerous in that it normalizes hatred toward those holding different opinions. Dangerous in that it normalizes an unwillingness to find common ground with fellow countrymen so the country can move in whatever ways possible in a fairer, more equitable, and more prosperous direction. And dangerous in that it subordinates attention to the real problems that face us — the hollowing out of the US economy, the destruction of its currency, the dismantling of its culture, the rampant obesity, the ongoing healthcare and education rackets and many, many others — to made-up wedge issues.

    If you want to see where America’s real problem lies, go look in a mirror.

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    • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 12:37 pm #

      Don’t worry; it’s not for nothing they call Sleepy Joe Biden ‘The Fixer’.

      • Helix November 6, 2020 at 3:27 pm #

        I’m not worried which ever of Trump or Biden wins. IMO, they’re both dismal choices and I’ve spent decades building a life that keeps people like them from impacting it as possible. My main reason I pay attention to politics at all is to know if it’s time to duck.

        Unfortunately, when I see the level of hysteria there, and at least as much hysteria emanating from the other side, I’m wondering if the time to duck is drawing near.

    • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 12:50 pm #

      Your system was intent of making Whites into the 3rd class citizens (at best) via critical race theory. If Trump goes, all of that comes back with a vengeance. No thank you!

      You people need to look in a mirror. Don’t get too close cuz it’s going to crack.

      • Helix November 6, 2020 at 3:15 pm #

        So you’re accusing me of supporting the partisans on the other side of the divide even though I explicitly denounced their rhetoric in my original post. Nice.

        • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 6:19 pm #

          So one group of “partisans” wants to make Whites 3rd class citizens by force. And the White “partisans” say no. Equally odious, right Hel?

    • Amman November 6, 2020 at 12:51 pm #

      Actually, what is dangerous and nauseating is the rubbish text you’ve posted here with no regard for the gigantic crime that has just occurred in the US. You are not entitled to mention faith or Americans.

      • Helix November 6, 2020 at 3:12 pm #

        Please specify exactly what crime it is you’re referring to. Or is this just another example of spreading rumors without evidence?

        • Kim November 6, 2020 at 7:23 pm #

          I saw a man climbing out of a window of my house. He was carrying a pillow slip filled with my property.

          I wonder if he was committing a crime?

    • cbeard November 7, 2020 at 8:01 am #

      Well, what are you doing differently? What are we supposed to do. Go along to get along. Do you honestly believe Biden or Harris are the ones to lead this country. They are both in fact immoral, dishonest grifters.

  36. Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 12:33 pm #

    We wake to an America about to embark on 2 great and urgent projects

    First of course is the conversion of this open-minded and progressive land over to a soft socialism that the most secure and comfortable societies enjoy

    Next is the gradual breeding out of white people, who unfortunately are as up to date as the Sony BetaMax White folk have pretty much bollixed up everything they have touched in America. Obvious, I know.

    Are we equal to the challenges ahead??

    • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 12:39 pm #

      No. Let illegal aliens handle it. They’ll be coming in by the tens of millions, starting in January.

      Illegals apparently are up to date.

      • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 12:41 pm #

        You might say the same thing about the folks who landed in Plymouth in 1620.

        • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 12:51 pm #

          Maybe, except the Wamanoags in Mass didn’t know how to read and write, and hadn’t come up with the concept of the wheel.

          • Amman November 6, 2020 at 12:54 pm #

            Look, shut up about native Americans or alleged IQ.

          • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 12:56 pm #


          • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 12:58 pm #

            Sounds like you know but don’t want to know something about IQ and who has it.

            Btw, we created this Nation and thus we are the Native Americans, not them. They were just living here. We took it from them and founded this Nation.

          • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 1:05 pm #

            And so perfectly justified to seize their land and slaughter them. I see.

          • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 1:46 pm #

            As they did with each other – as you well know, hater.

        • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 12:56 pm #

          We’re the Indians now for sure. Thanks traitor!

    • Helix November 6, 2020 at 12:46 pm #

      Bolluxed up everything? Looks to me like they’ve delivered one of the highest standards of living ever. If anything, they’ve become victims of their own success. Their military success has led them into military adventurism. Their technological success has led them into overproduction. Their economic success has led them into complacency, greed, and a host of lifestyle issues rooted in overconsumption and indolence. They wiped out smallpox. They reduced polio from a feared affliction to a disease mainly found in third world countries with poor sanitation.

      Hey, we have a lot of problems here, including problems arising from political partisanship, race relations, and government by oligarchy. But saying “white folk have pretty much bollixed up everything they have touched in America” is a pretty one-sided view. And in my view, a deliberately misleading one.

      • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 12:55 pm #

        Ha ha. Exactly as I said a minute ago above. This is your karma for your “we’re all in this together” idiocy.

        • Helix November 6, 2020 at 3:19 pm #

          What is it exactly that’s “my karma”? I don’t follow.

          • Yohannon November 7, 2020 at 12:32 am #

            Try harder.

    • King of Comedy November 7, 2020 at 12:56 pm #


      Ironic that the deep thinker on display here is using the internet on a computer powered by electricity… all inventions/discoveries of white folk. The list of inventions by whites is of course quite extensive and the modern world as we know it simply would not exist without that exceptional race.

      If screechy is a POC™, his resentment is rather understandable. When your civilizational contributions have topped out at the stone ax, one quite naturally envies a culture that has produced so much. The realization, deep down, that you simply cannot compete with that level of excellence is no doubt quite painful (hence the need for “decolonized” science, affirmative action, etc, etc). Alas, life isn’t fair and all men are not quite created equal.

      If screechy is white, then ladies and gentlemen, I give you the atrophy of the soul born of too much comfort, an existential hot-house flower contemptuous of the very men whose efforts enabled a delicate existence that the cruelties of nature would never permit.

      Either way, this type shall soon pass from the earth. We are in the weak-men-create-hard-times phase of things. Yet the wheel turns and the rough beast, strong men, slouch again toward Bethlehem to be born…

      • Kim November 7, 2020 at 9:20 pm #

        Yep and yep.

  37. BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 12:35 pm #

    And oh yes, the problem of battery storage has been solved. Biden plans on going balls to the wall alt energy, which includes decommissioning nuclear, coal, natgas and oil fired power plants. Any blackouts and brownouts that occur in the future are the fault of saboteurs and white supremacists. Got it?


    • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 12:40 pm #

      Biden recognizes the perils of an oil-based economy so like most forward-thinking countries he means to set us on a proper and careful path. Not party like it’s 1955

      Who can possibly quarrel with that?

      • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 12:57 pm #

        Just about anyone that understands energy. JHK is a good start. Michael Moore is another, Planet of the Humans got him into hot water for telling the truth.

        Were you around in 1973 or the 1980s during the two oil crises? I doubt it because of your ignorant statement.

        Without oil in abundance, this country shuts down. Biden has already backed off his ignorant statements on fracking. Maybe you should think a little more on your statement.

        • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 1:17 pm #

          The energy density of oil will require that it be around for awhile yet – base load generation by renewables is still nascent but improving all the time.

          Oil will trend out naturally assuming we don’t hire another Trump to throw sand in the gears.

          • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 1:58 pm #

            What’s the energy situation in Australia? I understand you are making some pretty hefty swag selling coal to China and India, in fact they are buying every ton you mine.

            Nothing wrong with that. King Coal! That’s what they say in Asia, and you’re talking 1/2 the world’s population.


          • Kim November 6, 2020 at 7:18 pm #

            @ BRH

            What’s the energy situation in Australia

            It’s an imperial system. The colonies – like Australia – produce fossil fuels but are not permited to consume them. All consumption will be done in China.

        • Kim November 6, 2020 at 7:20 pm #


          Without oil in abundance, this country shuts down

          That is the plan. Fossil fuel consumption in the USA is being choked off so that what is produced can be consumed in China.

          • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 4:49 am #

            ‘<I.@ BRH

            What’s the energy situation in Australia

            It’s an imperial system. The colonies – like Australia – produce fossil fuels but are not permited to consume them. All consumption will be done in China.

            Do you refer to Imperial v. US gallons?

            Otherwise, your statement is utter tripe, Kim, you fraud.


          • Kim November 7, 2020 at 9:05 am #

            @ Freddie Mars

            I don’t understand the point of your outburst.

            Australia produces very little oil indeed. It is trivial in the scheme of things and always has been and has never been an important part of the economy.

            But Australia does produce very considerable amounts of coal. It is in fact a world leader in coal production and in 2019 exported $70 billion dollars of coal, much of it to China and East Asia, thereby exporting almost 80% of its production.

            The coal that Australia exports is widely burnt in China, which has a very large number of coal-burning electricity generators.

            In Australia, by contrast, most coal fired power generation plants have been shut down or are slated to be shut down as the country converts to wind and solar for its electricty generation.

            As a result, while China and India – countries to which Australia exports coal – are among the countries that have the cheapest electricty in the world, the cost of electricity in Australia, which exports that coal, is among the highest.


            With this explanation, I am sure that you can now understand my point about the imperial center and the resource periphery:

            While Imperial China enjoys a booming industrial infrastructure and higher standard of living thanks to cheap Australia coal, Peripheral Australia herself has been stripped of industries and most now suffer regular, statewide brown-outs. She is no longer allowed to use even the abundant coal that she herself produces.

            Your apology is accepted.

          • Kim November 7, 2020 at 9:08 am #

            @ Freddie Mars

            Otherwise, your statement is utter tripe, Kim, you fraud.

            Some advice.

            Don’t let your feelings of inferiority retard your ability to learn and grow.

            And let go of the anger. It is toxic. You may not have known him, but if you had ever met, I am sure your father would have loved you very much.

          • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 3:57 pm #

            You’re right. I went off on oil, when you had in fact referenced “fossil fuels”. My bad. I misread it. In this particular case, the fraud accusation was unjustified.

          • GreenAlba November 9, 2020 at 6:01 am #


            As long as you don’t ever expect an acknowledgement of misreading or error from our Kim, should the position be reversed. Just not the way the dynamics work around here.

      • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 1:00 pm #

        Biden doesn’t even know he’s alive – Trump. Yet you think he is a genius. What does that say about you?

    • Kim November 6, 2020 at 7:16 pm #

      @ BRH

      The plan is to have plenty of fossil fuel energy for China and very little for the USA.

      China as the center of manufacturing and the USA as quarry and farm.

      In that system, 330 million people is far in excess of requirements and cannot be supported at even-close-to present living standards.

      Get ready for a big step down.

      This was why Trump had to go, no matter how blatant the fraud and censorship and Orwellian messaging was. Because he could have – and was – instituting US independence from the globalist economic system.

      • Yohannon November 7, 2020 at 12:34 am #

        Ah, the Morgenthau Plan at last! America turned into an agricultural state. Chickens- Home- Roost! Too bad about all the peasants….

        • Kim November 7, 2020 at 9:09 am #

          Yep. Dragged that one out of a dusty old drawer at State.

        • Kim November 7, 2020 at 9:11 am #

          But in that case they found that Europe could never recover without the Germans, so they had to settle for just the physical breakup.

  38. Pucker November 6, 2020 at 12:40 pm #

    Have you ever noticed that whenever you ask a young American “Dude” or “Chick” whether they’ve ever read a certain book or know about a particular relatively substantial topic that it’s always a rhetorical question?

    And the level of stupidity is only matched by the level of dishonesty.

    • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 12:42 pm #

      I assume you aren’t including yourself in that rousing assessment?

  39. volodya November 6, 2020 at 12:44 pm #

    Does anyone remember anchors on mainstream media (outside of Fox News) trumpeting the term “baseless accusations” in connection to assertions of Russian collusion? I don’t.

    There was a level of credulity shown by these seasoned news people that would be uncommon to find even among ten year olds. They took what was on its face the most preposterous allegation, one that made no sense whatsoever even to ordinary joes like me, and ran with it, not applying the most minimal common sense reasoning.

    Did colluding with Russians to win an American presidential election make even the slightest sense? What on earth could Russians do that couldn’t be done by Americans? What expertise did Russians have that couldn’t be found right underfoot in the good ole USA?

    And, as it turned out, the accusation came to nothing, looking exactly like what it actually was, an attempt to overturn the 2016 election. Trump an authoritarian? Bullshit. A threat to our democracy? More bullshit. Subverting the Constitution? Utter bullshit.

    So now the msm is crowing about baseless accusations of vote fraud. But given what happened, given the past behavior of Trump’s opponents, why is it so outlandish to surmise that there is indeed a boatload of vote-fraud afoot, committed by the same fraudsters as before, or people aligned with them, with the same media organizations “banging the drum”, as JHK sez, as they did with this Russian collusion baloney, to divert attention and tilt this thing in Biden’s favor? This would be deja vu all over again, fraud being the modus operandi of those desperate to win.

    Remember how they all said that the walls were closing in on Trump, that indictments were imminent?

    • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 12:46 pm #

      Oh, there was a ton of voter fraud – but you see, it was only in the Biden states.

      The Trump states were all perfectly above-board.

      • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 12:50 pm #

        A full audit of all counts would be acceptable to me.

        I don’t see quite the anomalies favoring Trump, however. There aren’t any GOP-leaning urban machines left to make it so. The major metros are all part of the blue team these days.

      • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 1:09 pm #

        Yup pretty much. You folks control the media and the voting mechanism even in most red states.

        You are better at this work of darkness than we are. Not even close.

        • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 1:20 pm #

          This sort of blather will be around for a short time still, but then it will fade away. A few years from now and it will all seem like some kind of distant joke.

          By then we will be on our way to benevolent socialism – a society that benefits all.

          • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 1:25 pm #

            Aren’t you the fellow who said that actual Americans should be taken to the woodshed to usher in Afro-futurism or some such?

            It’s a pretty good gimmick, ngl. Echoes of tiny duck on some other sites I frequent.

          • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 1:44 pm #

            Except the 25 million or so White Americans who won’t return from camp. Number given by Bill Ayers.

          • benr November 6, 2020 at 6:14 pm #

            No we won’t Americans never do anything small.
            Full fledged Authoritarian or bust.

      • benr November 6, 2020 at 6:12 pm #

        Gee cargill has returned and back to form.

        Won’t be long.


        You should make your next name giggles the clown.

        • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 5:00 am #

          WTF? This current WH is now blatantly linking to The Heritage Foundation? That’s rich.

        • Night Owl November 8, 2020 at 2:45 pm #

          He has at least three handles in this thread.

    • Helix November 6, 2020 at 12:49 pm #

      That Russian collusion story was ridiculous on the face of it. Yet another case of partisanship overriding common decency.

      • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 12:54 pm #

        Now it’s time for a China collusion theory.

        For example, where’s the $3 billion Chinese Intel forked over to the Bidens? And what does Xi Jingping expect in return?

        • volodya November 6, 2020 at 1:03 pm #

          That last question is the key question.

  40. Pucker November 6, 2020 at 12:47 pm #

    Young Americans don’t seem to read nor have any meaningful sources of information or salubrious male influences. They seem to spend their free time playing those violent computer games. The Sandy Hook shooter, Adam Lanza, liked to play the following computer games: Call of Duty, Modern Warfare 2, Combat Arms, World of Warcraft, Warcraft, Star-Craft, and Warcraft III. He literally played hundreds of hours of these games. Apparently, some of the games such as Modern Warfare 2 are used by the US military to practice on and are used for weapons training. His online persona used to play against competitors was called “Kaynbred”.

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    • Pucker November 6, 2020 at 12:56 pm #

      I recently asked one of the kids at the dinner table whether he and his friends play(ed) the same violent computer games that the Sandy Hook shooter, Adam Lanza, played? In other words, whether he and his friends have any kind of “affinity” with a deranged mass murderer of first graders? He responded: “Yeah, but not everyone who plays those computer games becomes a mass murderer.”

      I guess that it’s “The Luck of the Draw”?

      I’m sure that the US Deep State has studied this question extensively.

      • Pucker November 6, 2020 at 1:24 pm #

        And when the kid says that “not everyone who plays those violent computer games turns out to be a mass murderer of first graders” (thereby implying that it’s ok), they look at you like you’re a giant idiot.

        • benr November 6, 2020 at 6:17 pm #

          The warcraft series are not first person shooters nor is starcraft.
          They are resource gathering and strategy.
          Blizzard made a mint with these games and Word of Warcraft which still has 5 million people playing it.
          For the most part harmless except they are time sinks that can be used for productive means.

  41. MaryV November 6, 2020 at 12:54 pm #

    Just wanted to let you know that I tried to post an excerpt of this and the link on FascistBook, and got an immediate popup telling me no one else would be able to see my comment because it ‘promotes criminal activity’. And no, I am not joking. This is the level of psycho these Silicon Valley petty tyrants have achieved, given all that power. Or, they are just doing the See Eye Aye’s business or that particular agency is just flat out running things. Yes, the internet is being destroyed. I was just listening to your podcast interview on your book on magical thinking, ironically, when it happened. I would welcome a world with far less technology, as growing up in the 1970s was quite awesome without all the gadgets we have now.

  42. tom clark November 6, 2020 at 12:59 pm #

    Jesse Ventura for pres. under a newly-emerged Independent party in 2024. You heard it here first.

    • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 1:46 pm #

      What’s Jesse’s platform?

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 7, 2020 at 1:02 pm #

        “Kickin’ Ass & Takin’ Names”

        sub-platform: “”We Ain’t Got Time To Bleed”

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 7, 2020 at 1:08 pm #

        (Yes, I realize the obvious answer: apparently Biden/Harris w/the entire establishment behind them)

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 7, 2020 at 1:09 pm #

        oop, meant that to follow my message a few posts down)

    • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 2:09 pm #

      Nah, Kamela and Corey Booker. Finally flush out the whities.

      • Q. Shtik November 6, 2020 at 5:24 pm #

        Nah, Kamela and Corey Booker. – Screech


        Is this misspelling deliberate or are you actually stoopit?

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 7, 2020 at 1:04 pm #

      Honestly, I was really kinda hoping Ventura would get into the mix this year. Guess he presumed he’d be hated forever for taking votes away from either establishment candidate.

      But the reality is, for the anti-Trumpers out there, who better to challenge a reality tv star than a pro wrestler?

  43. volodya November 6, 2020 at 1:01 pm #

    It may not go to the level of loincloth as business attire, but the direction is abundantly clear, with dishonesty rampant, it could descend to Italianate levels of corruption.

    Never mind the common view of the place as sunshine and pasta and wine and amore, the ordinary citizen contends with mind-boggling levels of sloth and indifference and criminality. That’s where the US of A could go, with business done with Uzis, elections a joke, securities markets worse still, the elite doing what they like, stealing what they want, immune to prosecution, with the courts protecting them and law enforcement a contradiction in terms.

    • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 1:13 pm #

      Remember “Cash” a Canadian Italian poster from years ago? That’s what he said. Audits in Italy are done by police with uzis surrounding a business. Canada was more relaxed, more English, more polite. No uzis or police needed, typically.

      • volodya November 7, 2020 at 11:30 am #

        If you work for any company with foreign operations, stories filter back. You get shit like this in S. America, eastern Europe, with shakedowns masquerading as audits, particularly of gringo subsidiaries. Best for local managers to handle this stuff. 

    • FreddieMars November 6, 2020 at 2:55 pm #

      I recall a guide we hired in Rome several years ago explains why the Roman police (not the Carbinieri) always worked in pairs – one could read and the other could write,

  44. JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 1:09 pm #

    This country needs to split.

    White and brown as the basis. These two groups cannot co-exist. The American dream is dying in front of our eyes. I actually read one idiot say that Whites need to be bred out of the US.

    You Racist, what needs to happen is you and your folks need to be thrown out of the US.

    Separate the US into White and Brown nations. Problem is, within ten years the brown part will all be on welfare begging for handouts from the white country.

    • Amman November 6, 2020 at 1:15 pm #

      Take it easy – All the best things and worst things that have happened in the USA, and the New World for that matter, have been in the context of white and black people always being present in the land. You will not get anywhere attacking the OTHER who will always be a friend, a foe, or a neutral.

    • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 1:16 pm #

      You got it, but will you keep it? I’ve seen you “here” before. It seldom lasts long. Man is not a unity you see. I’m not picking on you completely, but you are less integrated than many at your level of IQ and education. That’s not all bad, since most of them are integrated wrongly and dedicated to fantasies. Your broadness could be an asset, but you get lost in it. I’ve known others like this as well.

    • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 1:21 pm #

      Whites and browns can exist just fine – just not around certain types.

      Of course they are fast becoming sad anachronisms. And they will die out soon to the vast relief of all.

      • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 1:38 pm #

        Motto of La Raza (the Race): For our Race everything and for other races, nothing.

        • FreddieMars November 6, 2020 at 2:56 pm #

          Sounds like the motto of ANY racist organization. You should be sympathetic.

          • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 3:01 pm #

            Why yes. Good Freddie. Man and beast compete, both as individuals and groups (including races and species) for scarce resources. Victory does matter, little Freddie. Mars matters!

            I’m here for you to help you be born into Reality.

          • Kim November 7, 2020 at 1:44 am #

            Sympathetic? Your instincts to self preservation are really so dulled?

            “Sympathetic” is not the emotion a healthy organism feels when under threat.

            “Go ahead! Eat me! I’m delicious!”

      • Iananna November 7, 2020 at 7:32 am #

        It’s clear that “they will die out soon” because no woman will let them within spitting distance.

  45. wm5135 November 6, 2020 at 1:13 pm #

    Diplopia in concurrence with Myopia = Occular Rectalitis

    “A demoralized American people will finally see the mind-fucking they’ve been subjected…..” JHK

    Are these the very same people who still buy the Bay of Pigs, Lee Harvey Oswald magic shot, Gulf of Tonkin Incident, The Glorious Invasion of Grenada, Osama bin Laden did it, Aluminum Rocket Tubes, Weapons of Mass Destruction, Afghanistan, Chlorine Gas in Syria and Muammar Gaddifi was a destabilizing force in North Africa?

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    Billy Budd is dead, along with the renaissance man, done in by the ignoble savage.

    Seneca Cliff – the path of your children’s future

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    • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 1:24 pm #

      Well said!

    • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 1:26 pm #

      Choctaw Ridge. Billy Joe McCallister jumped of the Tallahassee bridge.

      The dog barks the caravan passes. They will accept as you say. The people are lost without an Elite to guide them – and our Elite turned to evil a long time ago and hate the people with a passion. Consider the Las Vegas massacre, apparent payback for the Trump victory. We we’re never told what that was about and we never will be. Too blatant. Credible rumors that he had converted to Islam. Our Elite are allied with these people now and they don’t want to offend an ally.

  46. John1945 November 6, 2020 at 1:20 pm #

    Mr.Trump must declare Dem Party a terrorist organization with all ensuing consequences.And those consequences should ensue instantly.

    Instead he ran to the Supreme Court for help.In case Supreme Court sides with Mr.Trump Dem Party terrorists will have a good laugh and will keep doing more of the same.

    Where is my HS Dago friend who always said:

    La furca è per lu poviru , la guistizea pri lu fissu ”
    The gallows for the poor man ; the law courts for the fool

    I am not particularly worried about Mr.Trump in case he loses,he will not die hungry.

    But I am feel really sorry for this dumb young kid Kyle Rittenhouse who tried to do the right thing and who will rot in prison forever if Dem Devils take over.

    • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 1:27 pm #

      I have very reliable inside info that VP Harris will introduce a bill requiring fluency in Spanish for the kids, beginning on Jan 20th

      This is in anticipation of the angry screaming caravans headed Norte due to the Great Wall Builder being shown the door.

      It will be a glorious sight. Mexicans reclaiming the stolen Southwest, etc…

    • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 1:35 pm #

      “Who dares, wins” – motto of the SAS, British special forces unit

      You got it and you keep it. They have chutzpah to burn and they went for it. And why not since they never face any consequences? As you say, the equivalent response by Trump would be to declare martial lawn and begin the prosecutions.

      In any case, a commitment to remaining on defense is a commitment to defeat. The Saxon shield wall held against two Norman charges. When they finally decided to attack, they did so in response to a Norman feint and were slaughtered. Timing is all! If Trump hesitates, we are lost even if he manages to save himself somehow.

      You’re right: we don’t deserve Kyle Rittenhouse.

      • John1945 November 6, 2020 at 1:49 pm #

        Traditionally it is accepted that a defending force has a 3:1 advantage over an attacker.

        To get re-elected is much much easier than oust the incumbent or get ahead of another guy when incumbent’s 2 terms are up.

        Jesus.Holy.Fu…ng.Christ !!!

        To lose his office…
        And to whom ???
        To the Walking Dead & Outcast Hindu Woman !!!

        • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 2:03 pm #

          Smart brown women bother you, don’t they?

          • John1945 November 6, 2020 at 2:17 pm #

            Ms.Harris may be smart.Or not.It is irrelevant.Dalits can be smart.Dalits even can be Presidents of India…

            My Brahmin friend-a Chief Priest at the local Hindu temple-told me she is an outcast and a whore due to her “peculiar matrimonial arrangements”(it was how Brahmins express themselves 🙂 )

            My knowledge of Hinduism is limited to a couple of popular books,but,to be safe,I will not touch Ms.Harris with a 10 feet pole either.

      • Q. Shtik November 6, 2020 at 5:40 pm #

        declare martial lawn – Yo



    • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 2:39 pm #

      You can’t just “run to the Supreme Court” – doesn’t work that way.

      Any judge in his right mind will throw these ridiculous suits out.

      Next for Trump is all those pesky indictments. He’ll be spending a lot of time in jail soon.

      • John1945 November 6, 2020 at 3:05 pm #

        US Supreme Court can have original jurisdiction once in a while,those cases are enumerated in Article III, section 2

      • benr November 6, 2020 at 6:21 pm #

        Want to bet?
        Obama never got prosecuted for actual treason Trump has done noting even close to attempting the over throw of a duly elected President.

        Do you understand how stupid you appear wit this kind of bullshit?

  47. Pucker November 6, 2020 at 1:24 pm #

    The US education system is basically an education system largely stripped of reading? Or, at least, students emerge from it incurious and disinterested in reading? Bizarre….

    • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 1:31 pm #

      Hardly bizarre, perfectly usual. We sought a broadly educated population when this was a republic of free Englishmen, it is now the seat of global empire and we are to be subjects and ‘consumers’, not citizens.

      The rights and responsibilities of citizenship, as such, are to be revoked and replaced. A responsibility of a subject is obedience immediate and unthinking, not reasoned consideration.

  48. offmedz November 6, 2020 at 1:30 pm #

    First time poster and I want to know:

    What will the NYT write about with a Biden win?
    What if the sitting President releases all the information he has about RussiaGate and that pesky laptop?
    He can still fire all the people who need to be fired. Will he?

    Now imagine if that laptop and been belonged to Jared.
    Imagine if all those “found” ballots were marked 100% Trump?

    Are those counted ballots being archived?

    I mailed in my ballot like I always do and it goes about two miles to get processed at the giant USPS hub. What’s the postmark date on the “found” ballots?

    I hate to be a pain in the ass but I have questions that need to be answered with facts. Maybe that’s because I grew up watching the Viet Nam war on tv only to be told decades later by the architects of said war that it was all a lie.


  49. Zoltar November 6, 2020 at 1:54 pm #

    II have great respect for our host here, and have learned much from Jim for over thirteen years, but it has reached the point at which his continued credulity is poignant.

    There will never be any exoneration for the victims of Russiagate, or punishment for the malefactors who have perpetrated it. There will be no further investigation of the Bidens, much less comeuppance for their chicanery.

    In a few months we will have a President Harris who nobody wanted, but the public will not even question the legitimacy of her path to the Oval Office.

    A demoralized American people will never grock the mind-fucking they’ve been subjected to and or rise to save themselves from the ground up, except as pockets of rugged individuals capable of having each others’ backs in a sea of disfunction, if not savagery.

    And, just for the record, there never was any reason to suppose that Obama had earned our trust, twelve years ago.

    • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 2:00 pm #

      At least he had an appealing exterior, if you like that kind of thing. But Biden?! Harris?

      How the noble have fallen.

    • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 2:40 pm #

      The Age of Joe is upon us.

      • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 2:51 pm #

        For how long tho? At 80, how many more years does he have left?

        • benr November 6, 2020 at 6:23 pm #

          3-4 months and the 25th will fall upon him.
          His own party will cast him aside soon for the rotted withered visage he has become.

          All hail the ghastly grey ghoul of grifting!

        • Q. Shtik November 6, 2020 at 9:06 pm #

          At 80, how many more years does he have left? – BRH


          Biden turns 78 two weeks from today.

  50. Trent B November 6, 2020 at 1:56 pm #

    Once out of office, I wonder if the president will continue to lead the battle against the coastal elite baby-eating cannibals, and the other satanic forces arrayed against our Christian Nation

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    • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 1:58 pm #

      Said the masked slave.

    • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 2:03 pm #

      Nah, I think he’s had enough.

      He’ll be down at his place in Florida, loved by half of the United States, watching 80 year old President Flubdub f#kk everything up. I can’t wait to see it myself.


      • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 2:04 pm #

        Loved by the half who so obviously don’t matter any more.

        • SoftStarLight November 6, 2020 at 2:17 pm #

          It really is sad that your existence is all about lashing out and hating others. Like a rabid animal really.

        • benr November 6, 2020 at 6:24 pm #

          Says the guy that never mattered which is why you are such a bitter prick.

          • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 5:05 am #

            Don’t you get it? This guy is the classic troll. He says crazy things and gets you to react. Personally, I find him highly amusing, in an Australian sort of way. 🙂

    • Don November 6, 2020 at 2:27 pm #

      Let’s pray that He will continue His work.

  51. Roundball Shaman November 6, 2020 at 2:09 pm #

    “America walked wide-eyed into this signal institutional failure, the one that lowers us to the level of places in the world where the loincloth is a business suit and the only instrument of persuasion is a machete.”

    In 2020 even more so than in other years, America was faced with a tragic choice. Voting for a man who sees the entire world through the polluted lens of his massively inflated ego, or a man who is way past his Due Date and his giddy socialist sidekick. What to do? Hold your nose and vote for one of these losers/mistakes, or turn your back on the entire sordid affair and just hunker down for the inevitable fallout that will turn America darker for many years ahead. When there is no choice, you are confronted with your own powerlessness to stop the bleeding. Like an incoming meteor that you are on a collision with, you simply accept that it is going to have its way with you and you just hope that there is something left of you and the planet after the collision.

    “…Mr. Barr, warned the country months ago in so many words that mail-in voting would invite massive fraud, and so it has gone…”

    In America, we’ve always had election fraud. You could do it the old Chicago Mayor Daley way back in 1960 with magically appearing ballots from the deceased, or you can do it the 2020 modern way of Covid-phobia mail-in madness. If we still have elections years from now, they will no doubt come up with other creative ways to skew the results and install Their Chosen Choice to warm up and hold the big chair for the usual Deep State powers who will prevail regardless of what anyone else wants or does.

    “…what do you get with Joe Biden and the Democratic Party running the US government?”

    Watch some of those old 1950s horror movies. That will give us all a good idea of what’s coming.

    “A demoralized American people will finally see the mind-fucking they’ve been subjected to and will rise to save themselves from the ground up, with or without their government.”

    You give Americans a lot of credit here. Not sure where the evidence is for this kind of response. We’ve had a succession of generational rot since The Greatest Generation and that trend will continue with the all the little “dear ones” being born today. All we have left now is a public that suffers from PTSD and just wants someone else to stop all the pain.

    • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 2:11 pm #

      You quote Barr without any obvious embarrassment. Amazing.

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 7, 2020 at 1:43 pm #

        No, he quoted the very blog post above that you are so fervently replying to, that quoted Barr.

  52. Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 2:16 pm #

    Even after that appalling spectacle last night where the Leader of the Free World whined like a 7-year old who’s crayon box had just been stolen, he could still reclaim a shard of dignity by conceding.

    Of course he won’t His idiot sons won’t let him. Same with the rest of his enablers.

    So we look forward to Trump further disgracing himself and the office as this wraps up.

    • SoftStarLight November 6, 2020 at 2:22 pm #

      And yet still you are imprinted with hatred for him so he wins and will always win within you for that very reason. You are occupied. While I also dislike Biden and Harris with fervor I just can’t see thinking about them quite as much. I simply hope their goals for the country are completely thwarted and defeated. I also think Joe’s dementia is sad and he looks really bad when he speaks and Kamala just comes off as bitchy, petty, rude and honestly quite trifling.

      • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 2:30 pm #

        So glad to see that you have taken the high road here.

        Socialism is really the only righteous path for America. Joe and Kamela will get that started.

        It is an exciting time.

        • SoftStarLight November 6, 2020 at 2:42 pm #

          Depending on your definition of exciting, though crisis can be exhilarating I admit. I don’t per se have an issue with socialism. It could be good if it was done honestly, transparently and in a society built on a lot of trust. And there you go. We don’t have that. But more importantly, socialism is not what Biden or Harris are about. They are completely in the bag for the Big Banks, Big Tech and Media, and Big Business. As much as you hate him Trump is right about their support for that ticket. A lot of deals were made. So they are compromised and beholden to billionaire globalist oligarchs. That is not a sustainable recipe for the socialism that it sounds like you wish for.

          • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 2:46 pm #

            You are so right. Joe and Kamela are already bought and paid for. The creeping rot is ready to take over the swamp – an appealing visage.

            We go forward with brand-new Chinese-made hip-waders. Biden has scammed us all. He is no good. A creep. He cannot hold a candle to that towering figure of morals and ethics, Donald J. Trump.

          • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 2:54 pm #

            Every time someone tries to talk about Biden, you people start raving about Trump. The binaries! You hate us more than you love yourselves.

            What could you say in defense of Biden after all? Nothing!

            Hatred has triumphed over love.

          • SoftStarLight November 6, 2020 at 4:39 pm #

            I never said DJT was a towering figure of morals and ethics. But at least he has made it very clear that he will not stand for the globalist institutions, mega corporations, and bankers running over and destroying the middle and working classes. That seems to me to be a bigger expression of morals and ethics than selling yourself to the highest bidder for monetary gain and power. Joe Biden has enriched himself in making deals with all of these people during his half century in office while selling out taxpayers. And Kamala was busy enjoying incarcerating weed smokers and freeing killers of the cops who were apprehending the weed smokers for her pleasure.

            It is true that hatred triumphs over love for you. That is a chastisement on you for looking the over way when countenancing such horrific crimes. And thus you are judged.

        • zenfugue November 6, 2020 at 2:44 pm #


          Metastatic TDS!

        • benr November 6, 2020 at 6:25 pm #

          Fuck off you shill.

    • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 2:47 pm #

      What’s Bidens idiot son doing? Getting ready to cash in and cash in big?

      • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 3:48 pm #

        Of course Why he has already packed away enough for several lifetimes – and he can’t wait to really get going now that Dad is the Prez.

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 7, 2020 at 1:50 pm #

      Trump could have prematurely declared victory via a pre-taped speech in front of a bunch of empty cars, too. And if he’d done that first, Biden would be the one looking whiny. All about perception, not truth.

      Trump will concede when he runs out of options, or when the SC rules it. Same happened to Gore in 2000. But even evidence and testimony from the highest levels of election personnel (even if it’s the actual people who committed the purported fraud) won’t change the Biden voters’ minds now that they got their popsicle and commence to trashing anyone who didn’t vote for Biden.

      Fun to be on the winning side. Even if you’re an smug, pompous ass about it. Hence, the current state of America. And further hence (it would appear), you.

  53. Don November 6, 2020 at 2:26 pm #

    I enjoyed JIm Kunstler’s dystopian trilogy novels and the non-fiction book, The Long Emergency. I used to follow this blog regularly. But something has gone wrong with Jim to have become a Trump supporter. If his thinking has become this flawed, I am doubting his judgement and his predictions about everything.

    • sdf November 6, 2020 at 3:08 pm #

      Same. I stopped after the fictional trilogy, which I did thoroughly enjoy. Uncertain that his latest non-fiction books are really that insightful or meaningful as his classics.. I haven’t given them a try yet so I can’t say for sure. But this blog becoming increasingly partisan has sure not made me eager to delve into his latest works. Jim needs to take a long hard look at both parties. What has Trump done to prepare us for the long emergency? If anything, all his environmental deregulation has just sped up climate change. Along with his outright denial of the facts surrounding climate science, he sure as hell has not prepared Americans either mentally or physically for what is to come. Trump played into identity politics way too much, wasting time, while non-stop golfing and tweeting, and is guilty of what the left is also being blamed for.

      • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 3:19 pm #

        If he’d been able to pursue it, cutting immigration and encouraging separation from the global system would have been a big boon to dealing with the issue.

        The more we globalize and the more people we import, the worse the fallout from scarcity becomes.

        • sdf November 6, 2020 at 3:54 pm #

          Controlling all of congress was a good opportunity for Trump. At least he got his wall, sucks that we all have to pay for it when he promised it was supposed to be on Mexico’s tab. What a great deal-maker.

          • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 4:01 pm #

            I care not who pays for the damn thing, I just wish that it was built.

            He should have fought harder for it, or believed in the concept more, but it ain’t like official DC was or is on the side of the American people in this.

            Both parties favor infinite ‘growth’ even if for differing reasons.

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 7, 2020 at 1:52 pm #

      Perhaps if you had continued to follow this blog regularly, you might have more of an understanding of his reasons, and not see it in black and white.

  54. Night Owl November 6, 2020 at 2:46 pm #

    Biden is toast.

    Voter fraud can’t be hidden now. Thousands of ballots marked Biden only with no downlist votes. Fraud on a massive scale.

    Votes tallied exceed voter roles.

    Dis gonna get gud!

    • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 2:47 pm #

      Nobody serious is paying the least bit of attention to this piffle.

      • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 2:48 pm #

        What are they saying in Melbourne?

      • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 2:56 pm #

        So you’re not serious?

        Defeating Guile in debate is as easy as picking Japanese beetles off roses. But they will climb back up unless squashed.

      • Night Owl November 6, 2020 at 3:19 pm #

        You are on your 10th handle.


        Good luck in life.

        • Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 3:49 pm #

          I know not what this means

          • Night Owl November 6, 2020 at 4:06 pm #

            It means you were banned 10 times and returned 10 times.

            It means you are a loser.

          • benr November 6, 2020 at 6:26 pm #

            I wish jim would hand the ban stick out to a couple of normal posters.

          • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 5:11 am #

            Night Owl, your arithmetic is just off enough to make a fool of yourself.

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 7, 2020 at 1:57 pm #

            Haha. I presumed he meant your 10th handle of whiskey (as in 1.75L bottle). That made sense too.

  55. Night Owl November 6, 2020 at 3:24 pm #

    Poll workers filling in ballots:


    Cartoon-like. Imagine the stupidity of the brain trust behind this fraud.

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    • Rupert November 6, 2020 at 3:44 pm #

      It’s dangerous, an escalation. We are at a critical point.

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 7, 2020 at 2:22 pm #

      Good lord, I hadn’t seen that. I presume Rudy has that one archived for an explanation.

  56. Screech and Tiptoes November 6, 2020 at 3:51 pm #

    Red Alert!

    Apparently 50 Trump ballots were found in Joe Biden’s Flintstone lunch pail

    Trump has dispatched Rudy G. – if he can figure out his oatmeal directions in time,…

    We all hold our breath.

  57. John1945 November 6, 2020 at 3:51 pm #

    ·’It ain’t over till it’s over’
    Chairman Yogi Berra

    For those on this forum chiming in from the faraway corners of the British Empire,using fancy words which can be found only in the Oxford Unabridged English Dictionary:

    President of the US will be elected on December 14 aka Inauguration Day by the members of the Electoral College.

    Unless Mr.Trump is a total idiot (which probably he is not) he has more than enough time & resources to figure something out and secure his well-deserved victory.

    Meanwhile I am placing an online bet that Mr.Biden will die of natural causes and Ms.Harris as a true Hindu Dalit woman will commit sati (self-immolation) before the Inauguration Day – IN THIS PARTICULAR ORDER !

    In OTB terms it is called STRAIGHT EXACTA

  58. Night Owl November 6, 2020 at 4:07 pm #

    Trump predicted the fraud.


    And with each hour, the evidence continues to pile up.

    This is going to be better than the Ukraine Hoax.

    • Night Owl November 6, 2020 at 4:43 pm #

      And from the debate with Pedo Joe:


      He always knew.


    • SoftStarLight November 6, 2020 at 4:46 pm #

      I was nervous and blue earlier today because we haven’t heard from him. But then I realized what the smart people say. Always let your enemy hang themselves. I hope Joe Biden comes out tonight and says he won the election fair and square. After of course letting it slip that he had set up the biggest voter fraud organization in history recently. Maybe the quiet is because all things are being consolidated for the solid case. Such things do take time especially since the media says video is proof of nothing and nothing out of the ordinary has happened anyway even though they are very openly and shamelessly simply counting “votes” until they get Biden over the line days and days after the election was supposed to be over.

      • Night Owl November 6, 2020 at 5:14 pm #

        Yes. They know. Now do you think they prepared?


      • freetrapper November 6, 2020 at 5:16 pm #

        “But then I realized what the smart people say. Always let your enemy hang themselves. I hope Joe Biden comes out tonight and says he won the election fair and square.”

        Just like Trump did, you mean?

        • Night Owl November 6, 2020 at 5:21 pm #


        • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 6:15 pm #

          Sleepy Joe has been having hard time putting a sentence together. He gets confused, loses track, doesn’t know where he is. This ought to be fun too watch.

          • benr November 6, 2020 at 6:28 pm #

            Its not in fact its cruel the man is medically ill and deserves a quiet slow decline at home.
            His wife should be hauled in for elder abuse.

  59. wwg1wga November 6, 2020 at 4:07 pm #

    Polymathic perspective.

  60. John1945 November 6, 2020 at 4:10 pm #

    I have no intention to lose my online bet.

    I would advise Mr.Trump to learn the right methods from the wrong guys.

    The metamorphosis of the ruthless Bobby Kennedy


    “Get you guy first then build a case around him !”

    Thats it !!!

    Imagine – than little despicable Dwarf RFK felled the Giant-James Riddle Hoffa,the best union leader we ever had !

    Mr.Trump-lets start with 3 witches-Hillary,Kamala and Nancy.Throw them in prison before sundown !!!

    Then take your time building a case.

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    • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 4:44 pm #

      “Show me the man and I’ll show you the crime.”

      – L. Beria, 1941


      • John1945 November 6, 2020 at 5:56 pm #

        There is a book “Hoffa:Ten Angels Swearing”-his authorized biography.

        Mr.Hoffa writes that it started as a personal feud.When Mr.Hoffa visited Washington on union business RFK challenged him to arm-wrestling match.Because RFK regarded himself as an ultimate athlete.And he played football at Harvard !

        Mr.Hoffa beat him twice.No dice.RFK turned red in face and left w/o saying a word.

        The same petty emotional teenage BS was mentioned by Mr.Kunstler in one of his previous posts.

        Three old hags screaming like banshees “Get Trump” for no other reason than they are post-menopausal or just senile and deranged.

        • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 6:08 pm #

          All I know about Hoffa I got from the movie starring Jack Nicholson. It was a good one.

          Turns out it might have been a gangster from Buffalo who did him in.

          • John1945 November 6, 2020 at 7:08 pm #

            Long time ago I drove Marmon truck From NE to NJ delivering frozen beef.I am one of the select few who drove thru PA on I-80
            in less than 3 hours (dem damn 317 miles)

            When I was going downhill I put transmission in neutral because RPM were too high and because I would be late otherwise.

            Once I shook hands with a personal friend of Mr.Hoffa-owner of a heavy haul company in rural IL.

            Those were the days 🙂

            Regarding Mr.Hoffa death – the book which gets closest to telling the Truth is “I heard you paint houses”.That Mick Frank Sheeran made deathbed confession in 2002.And all the details check out.


            Almost 4000 reviews…

            I read it twice,I listened to this audio book and my BS detector never flashed red.

            God bless you Mr.Hoffa,wherever you are !

  61. freetrapper November 6, 2020 at 4:55 pm #

    I’m with Matt Taibbi:

    ‘”Biden’s entire argument for the presidency, and it’s a powerful one, is his opponent. This week’s election is not a choice between “light or darkness,” but “pretty much anything or Donald Trump…”’

    Powerful indeed. Trump puts the capital “S” in Scum-of-the-earth. Anything but a destroyed people wouldn’t let him win at legionhall bingo, regardless of affiliation. No healthy human being could put an “X” next to his name without their body turning terminally septic on them in the next breath.

    I don’t care if Biden wins. But i’m really, REALLY gonna LOVE seeing Trump lose. What an unbelievable cunt.

    • Night Owl November 6, 2020 at 4:59 pm #

      Taibbi is a moron and a sex pest.

      • freetrapper November 6, 2020 at 5:09 pm #

        He could be serial cannibal for all i care. He’s bang-on here.

        • Night Owl November 6, 2020 at 5:10 pm #

          Except for the provable fraud part.

          Good luck.

          • freetrapper November 6, 2020 at 5:24 pm #

            Trump’s lawsuit claims have already been chucked out of a couple courts for the patent democracy-undermining nonsense they are.

            Provable how now, exactly?

            In some people’s version of the world (a little over 50% of American’s versions it seems right now) “proof” is not the same thing as “Trump said-so.”

            I know, i know. Fake news!!!

          • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 6:11 pm #

            So now you’ve got Sleepy Joe, the fixer. Congratulations.

            He’s coming in with new ideas from his days in the Watergate investigation ahahahaha. Truly a man of the future.

          • Night Owl November 7, 2020 at 4:13 am #

            Fake news.

      • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 5:19 am #

        I recall high praise of his writing some several months ago. Pissed you off, has he, not coming out for Mr.Trump, despite your earlier hopes?

    • Trent B November 6, 2020 at 9:31 pm #

      Elegantly and succinctly put, freetrapper – he IS an unbelievable cunt .. but .with any luck, one doing time for any of a myriad of substantial charges. “Don’t do the crime, if you can’t do the time, Trumpy.”

  62. Tate November 6, 2020 at 4:57 pm #

    At AmRen, Gregory Hood responds to a mulatress calling herself “Blair Imami” who tweeted:

    “LET’S PLAY A GAME! Quote this tweet with a euphemism for white people that white people use to avoid saying white people.”

    Hood’s response: “taxpayers

  63. wwg1wga November 6, 2020 at 4:58 pm #

    In the old republic, the failure of the representative class to effectively articulate societal and earth problem statements and enact impactful solutions is a primary factor in the demise.

    In the U.S., Citizens United and Oligarch lobbyist money seeks to maintain the established order for themselves and their descendants.

    Ecological science has been ignored in favor of warfare science and hydrocarbon extraction, to the peril of the human and earth experiment.

    Sent from the New Republic.

    • Kim November 6, 2020 at 6:36 pm #

      @ wwg1wga

      Ecological science has been ignored

      Ecological science has been ignored since the Sumerians silted up the Tigris and Euphrates.

      And war isn’t a recent development either.

  64. tom clark November 6, 2020 at 5:15 pm #

    Fiscal conservative, social moderate…details of course yet to be determined. Let’s deal w/ tomorrow before 2024. tc

    • Kim November 6, 2020 at 6:33 pm #

      @ tom clark

      Fiscal conservative, social moderate,/i>

      Irrelevant concepts from the 1980s. The only concepts that now remain are “globalist” and “anti-globalist” or, if you like, you are either in favor of the destruction of nations and societies and slavery via global surveillance and digital currencies or you are against it.

      • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 5:22 am #

        Would you have resisted Magna Carta? The Renaissance?

        • Kim November 7, 2020 at 6:38 am #

          @ FreddieMars

          I am aware that you are only vaguely aware of what those terms refer to, so we’ll let those specifics slide.

          Globalism is in fact a second Counter-Reformation. It requires the end of the nation state and the end of freedom of conscience with absolute power – including tightly controlled power over belief/confession – passing back up into the hands of absolute autocrats.

          In Europe, some senior globalist figures are literally descendants of the same aristocracy that fought it all out last time.

          But I am pretty sure that you will understand only dimly anything of what I just wrote.

          • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 7:29 pm #

            Condescension suits you. You’re extremely well-versed in it.

          • Kim November 7, 2020 at 9:12 pm #

            @ FreddieMars

            No response on my Counter-Reformation point?

            A knowledgable person would be intrigued by it and might offer a relevant reply.

            But you just retreat back behind your ego-protecting carapace.

            You know, your ignorance is not my fault.

          • FreddieMars November 8, 2020 at 1:07 pm #

            Your nutjob theories don’t incite my curiosity.

  65. Pucker November 6, 2020 at 5:31 pm #

    Best case scenario: Biden gets elected President under a very dark cloud of suspicion and illegitimacy with a very thin democratic edge in the House of Representatives and no Senate, and potential criminal charges hanging over him because of his nefarious relationship to his son Hunter Biden and his tawdry corrupt business dealings in Ukraine and China.

    The Left is so dumb that they think that can get get Biden and his Neocon appointees to move left. Not too bright….

    Meanwhile, about half the country believes that Trump was cheated. Power vacuum….

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    • Kim November 6, 2020 at 6:29 pm #

      @ Pucker

      The Left is so dumb that they think that can get get Biden and his Neocon appointees to move left.

      You misunderstand. Globalism is the goal. “Necons|” and “The Left” are just tools to reach that goal.

    • Pucker November 6, 2020 at 6:46 pm #

      It seems a bit strange: Why would they deliberately create a huge power Vacuum?

      • Pucker November 6, 2020 at 6:47 pm #

        Vote for the senile old fart with serious legal problems and who everybody thinks is illegitimate.

      • sophia November 7, 2020 at 4:08 pm #


        So they can fill it.
        I think if we don’t fight this coup, we may not have another chance.

    • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 5:25 am #

      Good point, Pucker, regarding the fragility of the House and the apparent failure to take the Senate. These point to the unlikelihood of this vast voting fraud narrative.

  66. tom clark November 6, 2020 at 5:32 pm #

    Sorry…this was posted in response to the above poster’s question about a Jesse Ventura Independent party platform in 2024. He’s no left wing liberal maniac, for sure, but at least admits he’s human and listens to others and takes advice when he has the inclination. He’d be a breath of fresh air in the stagnant swamp. Would he run? Maybe w/ his outsized ego. But he’s too smart to take any bullshit from anyone, plus he’d beat the crap out of anyone who tried it. Impeachment material for sure. But that’s what it takes to truly drain the swamp as DT has discovered. tc

  67. Silverfox555 November 6, 2020 at 5:45 pm #

    ALL, FYI: Fascistbook has banned the sharing of Jim’s blogpost.
    Orwell would be rolling in the grave right now.
    Anyone on Parler? Other networks?

    Also: for you NY dwellers, check this out. Stunning times, everyone.
    “PRE-FILLED Democrat ballots sent to aged-care facilities in New York.”

  68. tucsonspur November 6, 2020 at 5:50 pm #

    Biden is in, Trump is out. Judges have already thrown out some lawsuits for lack of evidence of fraud. There was most likely some fraud, but not enough so that it would actually change the outcome of the election. Biden is almost four million votes up. Trump will have to perform some kind of trickery, hypnosis, razzle dazzle, or outright fraud himself to change the numbers.

    Keep in mind that even if he does, history books written around 2050-60 will contain the fact that the last time a Republican won the popular vote was in 2004 with George Bush. The tri, or die centennial if you will, will exert its own political, social, and economic realignments if they haven’t already occurred. It will be the time of rebels and tyrants.

    I wonder how Trump must feel, losing to old Joe, a washed up waste of a wisp and a corrupt one at that. He will, he must, cover that loss with allegations of ballot fraud, cover it with something. Yes, Trump is tough and a fighter, but he’s now a loser, and winning, winning, winning is out the window, and now if certain prosecutors want to persist, Hillary will be shouting, ‘they locked him up, they locked him up’!

    Trump wore his ego instead of the mask, and the magnitude of his mistake will become all the more apparent after the Democrats work their power. I mean really, fuggedaboutit if we lose the Senate. I won’t dicker with the dummkopfs over the mask, just a waste of time. Why couldn’t Trump see that people wanted to be healthy, that they wanted to remain alive and out of the hospital, and that they saw things getting more and more out of control months before election day? It’s difficult to put a number on, but I believe that a 5-6 million vote loss because of his handling of the virus is not unreasonable.

    I’m still trying to wrap my head around it, even though I kind of saw it coming. Trump loses to Biden, with Harris already halfway to the White House. Absolutely astounding! But then the Democrats worked it well. Riots, looting, shooting, arson, all under Trump. Trump, the terrible, toxic white male whose culture must be cancelled. Trump the racist, and Trump the divider. Yeah, they worked it well alright.

    The ‘old America’ is now gone. I can’t say that Trump would have won if he had handled the virus better, but I can say that it would have been much closer. Be that as it may, we now have Biden-Harris unless we want to fight, which I don’t see happening. Sure, we can roadblock the Dems if we hold the Senate, but that’s about all we can do. We simply don’t have the formula yet to beat these bastards.

    All of the ‘gate’ perpetraitors will walk free, and we will be imprisoned by the Left. Republicans and conservatives and Christians will be ancien regime, and we will now live in a state of abominable anomie.

    • Yohannon November 6, 2020 at 6:29 pm #

      You want him to lose you can feel vindicated about masks and other such Covid nonsense. One is remind of Cliver Barker’s “The Hellbound Heart”.

      • tucsonspur November 6, 2020 at 6:46 pm #

        He’s already lost, and if I wanted him to lose I wouldn’t have voted for him. Stop feeling so guilty.

      • Night Owl November 7, 2020 at 4:12 am #

        Ding, ding!

        Spot on.

      • sophia November 7, 2020 at 4:11 pm #

        I think Tucson is a Trojan horse.

    • freetrapper November 6, 2020 at 7:08 pm #

      “Absolutely astounding! But then the Democrats worked it well. Riots, looting, shooting, arson, all under Trump. Trump, the terrible, toxic white male whose culture must be cancelled. Trump the racist, and Trump the divider. Yeah, they worked it well alright.”

      The Democrats didn’t have to work a damn thing with Trump. He’s always been nauseating scum, a puffed up sack of all the worst known human traits. Anyone reading about him as far back as the 1980’s knew that.

      That he was elected President is a stunning symptom of how far gone America already was before he took office. And now in no small part thanks to him, the state of the country – the world – is in even worse shape. The symptom become the disease.

      • tucsonspur November 6, 2020 at 9:51 pm #

        No, they did have to work a damn thing. They worked at making the country weary with their riots, with their Russia hoax and their Ukraine hoax, with their impeachment, all the while with Biden publicly confessing to his quid pro quo regarding Burisma and getting away with it.

        And then there was the constant assault on people in Trump’s circle like Flynn, Page, Manafort, Cohen, Stone, etc., just hoping to find dirt to throw on Trump. How about Stormy Daniels?

        Right, they didn’t have to work the media so much since they were already the bitch of the Democrats.

    • Tate November 6, 2020 at 7:14 pm #

      Another gaslight victim, I see.

  69. sevensec November 6, 2020 at 6:12 pm #

    I cannot help wondering if Trump might end up as the future’s Emmanuel Goldstein—if indeed he loses power, his image and memory may still be too useful for the regime to dispense with.

    Many a Two Minute Hate will be organized around him, perhaps even decades hence, with excellent effects for Party unity.

    You can just feel the bluepill taking hold all over the country—the questions and doubts about the bizarre 100% Biden vote-drops, the halts in counting, the other statistical near-impossibilities being summarily silenced; the tranquilizers are flowing, flowing into the mass-mind.

    All the ugly wiring and worms that Trump exposed under the floorboards of our elite—its operations, its actual goals—is to be rapidly re-upholstered; it never happened and does not exist. So: of *course* Trump lost perfectly legitimately. Likewise, the FBI and CIA are perfectly lawful and just organizations filled with upstanding people.

    There is nothing to see here, folks; get back to your white-fragility re-education sessions, and enjoy the legalized heroin—it’s on us.

    Joe Biden is our president-elect; Joe Biden has *always* been our president-elect.

    • tucsonspur November 6, 2020 at 7:04 pm #

      And all we’re going to do is talk about it. No, not ClusterKlatches, Kalashnikov Klatches. But it’s not in us. No fight, nothing really worth dying for it seems. And they know it. We’ve become pathetic poltroons, passively ready to be be pissed on.

      • sevensec November 8, 2020 at 12:56 am #

        Your blunt self-contempt is oddly refreshing: “pathetic poltroons”!

        We do seem unable to contemplate sacrifice of the meagerest comfort-zones—which in an odd way says that Trump was already too good for us.

        But those comfort-zones are gonna leave us anyway, contemplatively or not.

    • Tate November 6, 2020 at 7:16 pm #

      Good summation.

    • hmuller November 6, 2020 at 10:33 pm #

      You’re right sevensec, Certain parties in this forum can read JHK’s exposure of all the deep state’s illegal, unconstitutional, and utterly dirty activity. And they come away saying JHK has become a right-wing, conspiracy nut for reporting the truth.

      They can’t deny the reality of those actions. But neither are they bothered by deep state crimes. I honestly wonder: what kind of people are they? Clearly, people with no love for truth or justice – just ideological loyalists to the corrupt bastards in power.

      You think Trump is bad. Look to the globalist banking cartel which has promoted war, poverty, and oppression across the globe. Then explain to me why you love it so much.

      • Kim November 7, 2020 at 1:36 am #

        Consider the example of the Michigan postal supervisor – he has been identified – giving instructions to falsify mail arrival dates.

        No concern for electoral integrity.

        No more morality or ethics than a mafiosi or a gangbanger.

        “Our Consitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

        Well, John Adams certainly got that one right.

  70. sevensec November 6, 2020 at 6:16 pm #

    Trump should begin having MAGA rallies again in his last two months—he needs to get as many actual, real, regular people and supporters out, in real life actively meeting each other, forming a movement with true grit and outside the uniparty/unifinance system. There is much work to do. Will anyone get off their keyboard-screen-addictions and renounce the Aura of the Digital long enough to actually do it though?

    It seems to me this is a critical moment when much the stuff JHK talks about, what with forming actual personal connections and small communities (rather than virtual ones) really needs to start happening. Like even some Clusterf**kers meeting up over coffee in a nearby small-town for starters?

    We could call it ClusterKlatch.

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    • benr November 6, 2020 at 6:32 pm #

      No Trump needs to start his own news network and social media outlets.

      • Kim November 6, 2020 at 8:28 pm #

        @ benr

        Well he certainly needs to close his Twitter account, open a Parler account and take his 80 million followers with him.

      • Kim November 6, 2020 at 8:30 pm #

        The trouble with Parler is that they have a bizarre policy of not allowing people who have not joined to read its content.

        It is like – so often the case – they want to fail.

        • Night Owl November 7, 2020 at 4:11 am #

          Parler has a stench about it. I considered joining, but they want far too many personal details — including a phone number.

          Major red flag.

          • Kim November 7, 2020 at 6:26 am #


            And it is irritating that they chose such a linguistically incompetent name, these experts in branding and communication.

            It is a French word. Pourquoi ffs? Do we pronounce it as French or as English?

            If we pronounce it as English, then we have a homophone with “parlour”. Why?

            First rule of naming a product: don’t confuse your customer.

    • Iananna November 6, 2020 at 9:59 pm #

      I’d agree that more Trump rallies would be ideal – so long as the deluded participants are not masked, not socially distanced and not intubated when they inevitably begin coughing up their lives.

    • Kim November 6, 2020 at 10:26 pm #

      Trump has a massive and engaged mailing list. If he wants to stay involved he needs to do the following:

      1. Make a very public speech describing and clearly labelling the enemy (China-centered globalism), and its goal of destroying and defeating, plundering, impoverishing and enslaving America)

      This strong labelling of china-centric and treasonous Democrat and RINO behaviors will provide rhetorical hooks for de-legitimizing anything the Biden admin does.

      Get the language right.

      2. Point out that the recent election was a fraud and that the Biden administration is illegitimate

      3. Insist that the game is not yet over

      4. Declare mobilization for 2022 and 2024

      5. Use his massive data resources to organize millions of Trump lovers to get involved in their local Republican organizations to winkle out rinos and to get positions in local education, sheriff, etc races

      6. Use local organizations to pressure current current elected reps to obstruct the Biden globalist program

      7. Coordinate and resource this local Trump activism centrally and via networked means

      The biggest problem here would be media coverage. getting off Twitter and onto Parler could help with this, but I would say that the MSM – including Fox – has really marginalized itself with half of the USA now anyway.

      Parler could be used to provide a lot of cross support for alternate right-aligned media while shutting out the globalist noise.

      In other words, build an alternative echo chamber.

      With 80 million Twitter followers and his voter data, Trump could do that.

      • Yohannon November 7, 2020 at 12:40 am #

        Sounds good. What about the Emergency Broadcast System? Could that be used to get thru to the American People?

        • Kim November 7, 2020 at 1:19 am #

          @ Yohannon

          There are so many things that they could have done since 2016.

          I was frustrated from the start when he seemed to have no transition planned for any kind of true america first team. For godsake, Rex fucking Tillerson!? Why?

          I think he was very naive about politics.

          On the other hand, the multi-layered inertia of such a leviathan opposition might surprise anyone.

        • Kim November 7, 2020 at 1:27 am #

          I also think he should publish an account of his administration, a high level survey and indictment of the bureacratic malfeasance and anti-American operations of the deep state, Hillary, Joe Biden, and other players.

          Four volumes. Released over 18 months going into 2022. Written in a racy, pacey style with each volume cliff-hangered.

          There is so much that could be done that can get around the gatekeepers and garner and sustain the public attention.

          But if you let people like that slithering snake Kushner and his own brainless twit of a daughter and Wray and Barr and Mueller near you, you are walking waist deep in shit.

          • sevensec November 8, 2020 at 1:07 am #

            In a way, you can think of the Trump Administration as like the Voyager probes—a daring endeavor launched by MAGA-NASA to gather the first fine-grained images of Planet Swamp, and also force the unmasking of Planet Woke.

            In this sense at least—as almost a sort of politico-journalistic sting-operation, gathering in troves of monstrous corruption and extremely dangerous ideology—Mr. Trump’s presidency was unprecedentedly successful.

            Alas, the chief hope of the mission was to *destroy* Planet Swamp, not merely document it. The damn thing is still there… and closing. (Anyone ever see that movie “Melancholia”?)

        • sevensec November 8, 2020 at 1:05 am #

          Or why not commandeer a 5G relay? Send the thoughts directly into their heads.

          (At this point, I don’t quite know whether that’s a joke.)

      • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 5:37 am #

        Apply for the job!

      • sevensec November 8, 2020 at 12:58 am #

        To these points I would add (for the love of God):

        8. **Do not concede, ever**. If all else fails he *should* leave the White House in a dignified manner, but only so as to leave it under a much-deservedly gathering cloud of illegitimacy.

    • bye_then November 7, 2020 at 2:04 pm #

      And with Covid worsening by the day, he should be able to kill off a few more thousand supporters by January.

      • sevensec November 8, 2020 at 1:04 am #

        Your lusty ideation for the mass death of those you politically disagree with, while gruesome, is quite pathognomonic of today’s left. No need even to get PCR tested!

  71. BackRowHeckler November 6, 2020 at 6:29 pm #

    How’s this for a headline?

    Last nite in Portland, Oregon.

    “Peaceful Protesters throw flares into City Councilman’s house, then set City Hall on fire”.

    Ahahahahaha Ahahahaha Ahahahahaha!!!

    Running up on 150 straight nights of Peaceful Protests in Portland. Lefty Utopia, coming to a city near you.


    • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 10:52 pm #

      Hey, BRH

      Why do we just mix them all a huge tank car of Marlin William’s anti-virus screwdriver smoothies and send it there.

      Just think, no more protests, just everyone sitting around happy as s**t without a single new case of Covid amongst the group.


  72. DrGonzo November 6, 2020 at 6:47 pm #

    Over the years, I’ve watched James transform from a witty critic of our car-centric culture into a paranoid right-wing conspiracy theorist with a weird axe to grind against gay people and darkies who don’t dress and act and talk just like him.

    It’s been sad to watch. I check in once a month or so, hoping that James would mellow a bit, and be at least willing to acknowledge that the bull in the china shop who has been running amok in the White House for for years has not been doing our 240-year system of checks and balances any good — as he threatened to postpone elections, jail his political enemies, sic the Justice Department on anyone who crosses him as if the Department were his own personal mafia family, and now … halt the counting of perfectly legitimate votes by US citizens. (Except in Arizona where the counting works in his favor. Of course.)

    Donald Trump has the excuse of being a spoiled multi-millionaire with narcissistic personality disorder and no moral compass. But what is James’ excuse? Irritation over rap music, angry white suburban women, and Hillary Clinton’s private email server? He must be a real joy at the Kunstler Family holiday gatherings.

    • Tate November 6, 2020 at 7:22 pm #

      What have you got against bulls in china shops?

    • Iananna November 6, 2020 at 9:56 pm #

      Good to see that there others here who sincerely wish that JHK could return.
      I send my best wishes for his recovery.

      • Night Owl November 7, 2020 at 4:10 am #

        Others being the 3rd or 4th troll handle of one of our most prolific trolls.

        More deep thoughts from Majella-light at ten.

    • Yohannon November 7, 2020 at 12:42 am #

      So why did you vote for the Corporate Candidate again? Hatred of Daddy? You poor schmuck.

  73. freetrapper November 6, 2020 at 7:16 pm #

    Here’s the deal with this election:

    Trump is a terminal cancer on the state, the body of the USA, the world in fact. And before a cancerous body can get onto larger, better things in life, the first order of business is to eliminate the cancer.

    Biden is the chemotherapy. No, no one is going to recommend chemotherapy to a healthy body. But the USA ain’t that body. If the chemo works as it seems to be, and the cancer is eliminated, it will be four years at least getting beyond the nasty effects of the chemo.

    Then the body may have a chance to heal. No chance of that with Trump in office. Eliminating that cancer is Job #1. The cure is bad, for sure. But it ain’t near as bad in this case as the disease.

    • Tate November 6, 2020 at 7:27 pm #

      Get serious. This is metastatic stage IV cancer we’re talking about here. Biden is equivalent to popping a couple of Imodium tablets.

      • freetrapper November 6, 2020 at 8:20 pm #

        In the big scheme of things? For sure. I’m simply speaking of the sideshow that is the US election.

        But for sure, American is finished as a nation. There may be a return to health for some of her citizens. Not for the country. America has had her day.

      • hmuller November 6, 2020 at 10:11 pm #

        The cancer is the globalist bankers and elites imposing an Orwellian dystopia on a dumbed down population who can’t see the methods of control and surveillance going up all around them. And also can’t discern the fraud and lies justifying it all – climate change, covid, yadda, yadda, bullshit!

        I could go on for about 500 pages on that topic, but I’ve learned something about ‘casting pearls before swine’.

      • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 10:54 pm #

        Come on , look at the red blue heat map.

        Who is invading territories and taking over the country.

        BLUE! That is the metastasis.

      • Tate November 7, 2020 at 2:03 am #

        I meant that Biden is full of sh*t. Imodium, get it. Never mind.

    • Yohannon November 7, 2020 at 12:43 am #

      Biden is the choice of the Bankers and Corporations, you booby. You blew it because of your daddy issues.

    • elysianfield November 7, 2020 at 10:36 am #

      Reverse the Trump/Biden descriptions, and your metaphor is apt. The Democratic Left is the Cancer. Trump is the Chemotherapy…a horrid methodology, painful and ugly, destroyer of various organs in the body, but providing a thin strand of hope…a few more years, perhaps.

    • bye_then November 7, 2020 at 2:01 pm #

      Too optimistic, freetrapper.

      Trump’s red-hatted rabble won’t be mollified, and their next leader might not make so many stupid mistakes as Trump has done.

  74. megaculpa November 6, 2020 at 7:51 pm #

    Canada has a lot of oil and gas, but the eco-fascists have managed to destroy the industry. Biden has pledged to stop the Keystone XL pipeline, which will force the US to buy more oil from the Saudis and other corrupt regimes. I guess those are his real friends.

    • freetrapper November 6, 2020 at 8:22 pm #

      Nonsense. Canada’s oil industry is just one more victim of peak conventional oil. If you frequent this blog you should get that.

      The low hanging fruit in Canada is gone. And the economics for what’s left – the tarsands – just don’t work anymore. It’s that simple.

      • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 10:42 pm #

        Here is a question.

        If Biden were to shut down the pipelines and fracking like he has said he will do

        Build up the renewables like he says he will do.

        How is he going to replace the roustabouts on the oil rigs, or the coal miners with people running windmills? How will he grow the economy?

        It is the same BS we were fed by Obama as we watched all the Midwest jobs fly over to China.

        And you intelligent Midwesteners just hired the guys who is going to take what manufacturing has built up over the past four years and send it to China with Hunter in the driver’s seat.


        BTW, once Biden realized what his dumb ideas were going to do, he backpedaled very quickly.

        • Kim November 6, 2020 at 11:16 pm #

          Biden has no intention of building up US manufacturing or anything else.

          From now on, the US share of energy consumption and standard of living will fall and US coal and food products will go to building China.

          Remember, the is Beijing Biden.

        • elysianfield November 7, 2020 at 10:32 am #

          Why do you seek the rational in irrational statements?

          Why do you parse comments from Biden, when you know them to be campaign rhetoric? Meaningless.

          Why do you suggest solutions to intractable problems when solutions may not even be sought after?

          Recognize that what is occurring today is street theater. Smile at the absurd, nod knowingly, disregard the promises.

          “Forget it John, It’s 2020 (Chinatown paraphrased)

          • JohnAZ November 7, 2020 at 11:26 am #

            Actually, I agree with you. Beyond hope and no respite for at least four years.

        • freetrapper November 7, 2020 at 3:34 pm #

          JohnAZ: In answer to your questions, Biden won’t save the economy anymore than Trump will. Growth is done. The processes of collapse that are kicking into high gear are far greater than any human institution to alter them. It’s like asking, “Who will stop the sun from going down?” No one will, is who. We will remain on course, and now that course is collapse.

          I’m just loving like hell seeing one of the planet’s pre-eminent arseholes getting his arsehole handed to him. With salt rubbed in, no less.

          Next up – he loses Georgia. Lovin’ it!

          No one deserves to lose like Donald Trump deserves to lose. Whatever the contest.

          • hmuller November 7, 2020 at 5:44 pm #


            You realize loosing spares Trump the shame and anguish of captaining the ship as it goes down. Democrats will get blamed for the worst depression in world history. Rightly or wrongly.

            And their arseholes will get rubbed with salt and tabasco sauce. – (that sounds liking an episode of “Cooking with Pete Buttigieg and Marina Abramovic”. What a lovely idea for a daytime TV show.

    • hmuller November 6, 2020 at 10:01 pm #

      Joe Biden’s friends are those who stuff the most money into Hunter’s briefcase. I suppose that bad boy is now again free to frolic with his crack pipe and 14 year old girlfriend.

    • Kim November 6, 2020 at 11:01 pm #

      Canada has tar sands. It is expensive to produce. That means it has a lower productivity than conventional oil.

      Society must re-organize to a lower level of consumption (demand) to account for that lower productivity.

      The alternative is to increase debt to sustain demand. This requires low and even negative interest rates.

      Today, global negative earning debt is $17 trillion. That is 26% of global debt.

      Negative interest rates destroy economies, starting with retirees, the poor, and small and medium sized business.

      Tar sands are not what is needed.


  75. Kim November 6, 2020 at 8:49 pm #


    More on-video evidence of postal fraud backdating ballots.

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    • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 5:46 am #

      This is evidence? Give it to a judge and see how far you get.

  76. tom clark November 6, 2020 at 8:58 pm #

    Hey, kick back everyone. Unless you’re an evangelical christian with a strict interpretation of the bible (of which I can’t believe there are many on this blog), you know the earth is at least 4 billion years old and the sun is, indeed, likely to rise tomorrow.

    Let’s give our host credit where credit is due. He’s a wonderful writer, open-minded, and honest. Plus he has a keen sense of what truly matters in this sorry world and where we’re headed, regardless of politics. He voted for a loser…so what?

    Politics (which is unfathomable and cannot be understood) aside, Jimbo needs to get back to what he does best…continue to be an acerbic observer and reporter of our social scene and it’s foibles.

    I came across this line in a post from Jim’s blog post-covid but pre-political commentary: “Spooky as it’s been, the covid virus has been a great cover story for the natural collapse of a severely unbalanced, ecologically unsound and dishonestly represented set of arrangements that are now unspooling at horrifying speed.”

    Jimmy, we want you back…please come home.

    • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 9:11 pm #


      What are the TDS folks going to do without Trump to beat up on? He has created an industry in the country of folks calling him down in every way conceivable. What are these haters going to do without a focus? What is BLM and Antifa going to do with themselves.

      It will be interesting to watch this industry collapse. Good riddance!

      • Iananna November 6, 2020 at 9:45 pm #

        TDS has kept the dead tree meeja alive for the last 4 years.

    • Iananna November 6, 2020 at 9:51 pm #

      Agree re JHK’s previous work which was recommended to me initially.
      Until maybe the last 6 months I would often forward, if not his entire screeds – his… obsession? had been intruding since about 2018 but still a minor aberration, dodgy meds. after his operation perhaps? – but his many aperçu and insights.
      Come on back Sir, you may be forgiven for the old man shouting at clouds embarrassment.

      • Night Owl November 7, 2020 at 4:08 am #

        Amusing from someone who has been wrong on every issue. You are a quieter version of our resident village idiot.

    • benr November 7, 2020 at 9:43 am #

      Odd choice of words when you say loser” I would suggest even in possible victory Biden is the real loser.
      Who wants to win under a cloud of suspicion and he can’t take the heat.
      Neither can heels up Harris.
      Worse his problems will only expand once the media realize this guy is not the darling of the left and barely coherent.

      • bye_then November 7, 2020 at 1:58 pm #

        Black is white. Up is down.

        It’s just another crazy day in the mind of a Trump fanboy.

  77. toktomi November 6, 2020 at 9:07 pm #


    How dreary and trite. Bush camp already staged that theatric.


    drum roll
    United States of America goes up in mushroom cloud.

    Who writes this silly shit, Algo?


    • Yohannon November 7, 2020 at 12:45 am #

      You should do tic tok. About the right level of profundity. Maybe you could earn some money….

  78. Iananna November 6, 2020 at 9:44 pm #

    I’m really looking forward to Trump’s concession speech.
    It will be a pearler, something to keep and laugh about in the grim daze ahead.

    • tucsonspur November 6, 2020 at 10:08 pm #

      But what will he say? How about something like, ‘I like winners who win, not lose!’ No, I guess not.

      He should tell Biden to eat shit, but, too bad, that won’t happen.

      • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 10:33 pm #

        One thing is for sure. We will not hear a bunch of RINO BS.

      • Yohannon November 7, 2020 at 12:47 am #

        He should never give it. Just walk out with Melania to tens of thousands of cheering supporters. A man become more than a more, almost a god…..

        • Iananna November 7, 2020 at 11:32 pm #

          As if Ms Knauss will stick around longer than it takes to enforce her pre-nup.

    • Kim November 7, 2020 at 3:41 am #

      I wish I could write it for him.

      I’d make the pack of criminals regret they ever gave him the platform.

      • Kim November 7, 2020 at 3:53 am #

        I would thank supporters.

        I would outline future actions and the role supporter’s can play (especially in taking over the Republican grassroots political organization and media messaging, cleaning out RINOs and installing only America First candidates everywhere at every level).

        I would guarantee that all is not lost and we could still clean out the scum. Even today, from this point on, we can stop them carrying out their ongoing crimes against America and against democracy.

        I would specifically name and shame and attach a crime to every scumbag in the Deep State and globalist media and lay out at length how their treasons and corruptions were crippling the nation and the stinking and illegal things they did during my Administration.

        I would create a body of rhetoric or nominalizations that could be the basis of future slogans and media shorthands such as “The Great Steal”. “We will all work together to overturn and reverse The Great Steal”. We all know – including our enemies – what The Great Steal is.

        We will make them use our words.

        This is a high-profile event that will involve masses of free national media coverage. Give it to them with unbending pride and sureness of purpose. Give it to them like a huge pie in their collective face and make it so abrasive and provocative that they must report it using our terminology.

        And the God-Emperor might even like to finish with a little neo-Arnie:

        “…because this isn’t over yet! Because we are The Heart of America. And we’ll be back!”

      • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 5:51 am #

        The WH has a public email address. Go ahead!

      • bye_then November 7, 2020 at 1:55 pm #

        Forget the speech. I’ve got a better idea.

        Trump should deliver a karaoke version of “You’ve Lost That Loving Feeling” – straight to camera.

  79. roccofire November 6, 2020 at 9:49 pm #

    Merry Christmas JHK,

    Please begin your consumption, the markets need us to consume and stop wasting time with questions and introspection observations about the current sate of decay. JHK, where can we go, Donald or Joe, what about the blackout for the Green or Libertarian parties? Twitter suspended the green party Hawkins account. You are correct in your political analysis, but the right wing is just has non reality based as the left.

    Meanwhile, I went out to my bread tree, and picked 2 ripe slices of Italian bread, and after toasting for 45 seconds, you place them on a stick, I use a popsicle stick and apply your favorite topping, butter, organic free range, fair trade berries or industrial margarine. Sesame street is now required viewing for all poll counters.

    • Yohannon November 7, 2020 at 12:48 am #

      What brands of bread does it grow? Just Italian? The Tree of Life should be more universal than that. How about Russian Rye?

  80. messianicdruid November 6, 2020 at 10:03 pm #

    Yohannon said, “Btw, we created this Nation and thus we are the Native Americans, not them. They were just living here. We took it from them and founded this Nation.”

    We own and are responsible for what we create. The Creator owns creation and places stewards over it as He sees fit. We are simply the new stewards, we can be replaced.

    We created a government which allows citizens to worship any g-o-d [ rulemaker ] they wish. This is the reason for our chastisement and possible disenfranchisement.

    Repent = change mind.

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    • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 10:30 pm #

      Yohannon is both right and wrong.

      Wrong because he does not recognize that the browns are here and are not going anywhere, so I have not heard one word of what to do with them.

      Right because he realizes what the contest for control of the country is going to become as the ethnic groups grow into equivalence. If the Wall, figuratively is built, the equivalence point will not be reached.

      We just elected the group that is going to guarantee civil war.

      • Kim November 6, 2020 at 11:11 pm #

        You don’t have to “do” anything with the browns. Just let people exercise their right to Freedom of Association and the situation will optimize naturally.

    • Yohannon November 7, 2020 at 12:53 am #

      You still don’t get it. I’m afraid you’re stuck in mental faggotry. Leave the New Testament alone and read the Old – all about the survival of a People against all odds. Now pretend that We are the new Chosen People (as the Founders believed). Watch the mental clouds vanish and new horizons open up.

      The Canaanites didn’t want the Israelites coming into their lands. The Israelites didn’t give a fig what they wanted or didn’t want. Caring about that is decadence as Spengler said. If we “cared” we would have never come here. Or as you yourself said, left as soon as one of the Indians said boo.

      • bye_then November 7, 2020 at 1:50 pm #

        Good plan. When in doubt, ask the advice of some bronze age goatherds.

  81. messianicdruid November 6, 2020 at 10:18 pm #

    tom clark said, “Unless you’re an evangelical christian with a strict interpretation of the bible (of which I can’t believe there are many on this blog), you know the earth is at least 4 billion years old and the sun is, indeed, likely to rise tomorrow.”

    The 4 billion or more years you BELIEVE in are between the first two verses.


    • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 10:23 pm #


      In Genesis, how many millions of years, or billions are represented by the construct “one day”? What is a day to the duration of God?

      Rhetorical question. You and anyone else do not have a clue?

      • messianicdruid November 6, 2020 at 10:53 pm #

        “And the evening [ beginning at sunset to sunrise ] and the morning [ beginning at sunrise to sunset ] were the fifth day.” Days are parts of years.

        • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 10:55 pm #

          Symbolism, not literal?

          • messianicdruid November 6, 2020 at 11:06 pm #

            Do you think He created this planet ” without form and void “? Something happened between 1:1 and 1:2 .

          • hmuller November 6, 2020 at 11:46 pm #

            Tohu wa Bohu, indeed! Much can be read into the text of the Genesis. Recently, I read someone who believes “the waters” which were separated into those above and those below represent “Consciousness”. There’s earthly consciousness and then there’s heavenly consciousness, and we got the non-premium blend.

          • Yohannon November 7, 2020 at 12:57 am #

            Between 1.1 and 1.2? Glad He was so specific. Who needs science since we have these verses and the invisible nonverse between them.

            Who needs the universe? We have the nonverse or empty set.

          • Yohannon November 7, 2020 at 1:01 am #

            The Midrash talks about seven levels of the Earth. The Patriarchs are hanging out on other levels even now. Adam and Eve fell down to this lowest level thru sin.

            Things make a bit more sense (in a sense that isn’t to do with the physical senses) when you don’t have to cram everything into the bare physical. This is supposed to be a spiritual system after all….

          • elysianfield November 7, 2020 at 10:21 am #

            “I read someone who believes “the waters” which were separated into those above and those below represent “Conscience.’


            Who? Name the Apostate so that we might know him….

  82. JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 10:19 pm #

    S & T

    Your world viewpoint is so juvenile, it is hard to believe at times.

    An extremely wise and gentle man, Mahatma Ghandi, tried to get Hindus and Muslims to live together in peace after India became independent from England. What happened?
    Schism into India and the two Pakistan’s.

    NATO and the Clinton’s tried to get Christians and Muslims to get along in the Balkans after Yugoslavia became independent. What happened?
    Schism into Herzegovina, Macedonia, Serbia, and Croatia.

    What happened to the Romans? Schism after splits until it was divided up. Same with Greece and any other empire.

    Diverse populations at near equal distributions split. Now that your siblings in the Dem party have gotten their way of diverse immigration for so long, it is America’s turn. It probably makes you feel just fine as you are a racist and an American hater. I wish someone would just give your type the West Coast and tell you to just go away.

    After your comment about Mexico taking back the Southwest, what shade of brown are you? What is next? Do you want the Apaches to throw out the Mexicans as they did? Which of the myriad of constantly conquering Native American tribes would you root for? Before the Anglos showed up the Indians delighted at killing one another.

    Your understanding of history is pathetic which makes your opinion a joke.

    • hmuller November 6, 2020 at 10:42 pm #

      I’m still demanding reparations from those damned Mongols! It’s only been 800 years, and my family like so many is still traumatized and struggling to recover.

      • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 10:46 pm #


    • Yohannon November 7, 2020 at 1:04 am #

      The Podesta Plan was for California to secede if Trump won’t leave. That’s one option. Fine. Let the West Coast go. Eastern Oregon wants to stay with us as will parts of California and Washington. Look at the map: Red America is almost all contiguous or touching other red states. We could still be a mighty nation if we could just rout out Liberals. We have the technology. Brain scans will show who’s who.

      • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 6:00 am #

        You’d miss the West Coast GDP (14.3%) and, importantly, it’s Federal tax contribution – $234 billion last year

        • benr November 7, 2020 at 9:29 am #

          No we wouldn’t and I live on the west coast.
          Time to jettison the insane progressive rats for the sake of humanity.

          • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 4:10 pm #

            Where would you move to?

      • elysianfield November 7, 2020 at 10:17 am #

        Think in strategic terms…we need a route to the sea. A corridor with Coos and Douglas Counties running from the shore to the eastern redoubt.

        Have you no strategy? At long last, sir, are you not strategic?

        • Yohannon November 7, 2020 at 1:03 pm #

          We will create a corridor to the sea for your property, even if only a hundred yards wide. We’ll call it a wildlife corridor. You can be an elk or a moose.

          Southern Oregon is very conservative and must be outraged. We’ll take the South and the East.

          • elysianfield November 7, 2020 at 9:48 pm #

            “You can be an elk or a moose. ”

            Well, why not a marmot? If others could be ferrets, I want to be a Hoary Marmot….

      • sevensec November 8, 2020 at 1:16 am #

        Yo—I presume you’re teasing, still I’d be interested what you mean about the brain scans to detect “red vs. blue” views. It sounds like the kind of toy a future technocratic World-State would salivate at.

        To the best of my knowledge, neuroscience is mostly irreproducible or very low-powered statistically (& I mostly pray it remains that way). So such a scan would have terrible false positive/negative rates and be unusable, unless you were OK with rejecting almost as many of your side’s brains as the enemy’s.

        Or is that the price we must now gladly pay for Order? Are we already living in one of those dystopia-of-the-week Star Trek episodes?

  83. dolph9 November 6, 2020 at 10:25 pm #

    I didn’t vote, but one thing which will come of this is that the MAGA rednecks will lose their minds and that will be spectacular to watch.

    What is wrong with “Make America Great Again?” Precisely because it can’t happen. This thing is going down. You know it, I know it.

    And now, the rednecks are going to know it. That was always the big question in America. When do the rednecks finally fucking give up on this thing? Because they are the most loyal, unquestioning, obedient dogs around. They will literally die for a system that transfers their money to the top and replaces them with Mexicans and Asians. An average ghetto black has three times the brainpower as them.

    Interesting times ahead.

    • hmuller November 6, 2020 at 10:39 pm #

      You’re right about one thing. The despised, maligned working white people deserve a leader who is really with them, not just using them.

      • JohnAZ November 6, 2020 at 10:45 pm #

        You know someone? We just unelected the guy who actually was doing something about the job market until Covid hit.

        • messianicdruid November 6, 2020 at 10:58 pm #

          You gotta mouse in your pocket?

        • hmuller November 6, 2020 at 11:00 pm #

          I voted for Trump twice. But I know he never told the truth about the economy.
          1) The stock market is not main street.
          2) The markets in equities, bonds, commodities are all manipulated by the elite via derivatives. There hasn’t been honest ‘price discovery’ since at least 2008.
          3) Since 2008 (and probably before) we’ve been living in a fraudulent financial bubble which has been unsustainable and doomed to end in a world wide collapse worse than anything seen in the 1930’s.

          • Kim November 6, 2020 at 11:07 pm #

            The crash or decline is inevitable. In fact it is ongoing and from the overlords’ point of view not really even much of a problem.

            The point of electing Trump was to ensure that the USA did not suffer the full brunt of the decline (America First) and did not have all of her wealth offshored to China.

          • hmuller November 6, 2020 at 11:37 pm #

            You raise a good point. The world holds about $26 trillion in dollars. If and when that money comes home its foreign holders will want to cash it in for something of tangible value. Ownership of our commercial and residential real estate, farmland, forests, mines, and anything of any value – could see a transfer into foreign hands.

            The Democrats have no problem with that, they are balls to the walls globalists. President Camelbutt Harris will do as she’s told, besides she hates this “slave holding country”. She’s a Jamaican with a mother from India. And for people like her, there is no sentimental place called “America” uniting us. There’s just the ugly divisive game of identity politics.

          • Tate November 7, 2020 at 2:14 am #

            “If” it comes home. But IMO it will never be allowed to be repatriated. The result would be hyperinflation. Of course, the U.S. seems intent on its own destruction, so maybe I’m wrong.

          • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 6:05 am #

            Tate, who’s to stop it? If the “Chinese play” is to own the US, what better way than to cash out the Benjamin’s for infrastructure – ports are currently popular.

          • benr November 7, 2020 at 9:27 am #


            Its about jobs and at one point I had four different head hunters trying to lure me away to different jobs,
            The money was getting high enough it was making me consider it and then bam China shutdown internal travel because of Covid but allowed international flights in and out.

            Suddenly everyone was forced to live as prisoners and the economy began to tank.

            Trump had the economy humming and business was retooling to come back to this country verses China where they steal everything and run you out of business.

            If we get Biden the economy will crater no way around that the people coaching and manipulating his strings hate everything about this country including its citizens.

          • hmuller November 7, 2020 at 11:03 am #

            benr, I hope you have used this Time of Plenty to hoard silver, food, and “defensive devices”. That knocking at the door is not Jiminy Cricket. It is the locust wearing the face of Joe Biden.

          • Q. Shtik November 7, 2020 at 8:36 pm #

            at one point I had four different head hunters trying to lure me away to different jobs, – benr


            Really? You’re shittin’ me!?

            Did they realize you don’t know the difference between then/than, to/too and verses/versus? I always assumed
            employers want employees who are proficient in English but I guess I’m wrong.

          • hmuller November 7, 2020 at 11:48 pm #

            Q, maybe the job required someone with people skills who could see the bigger picture. Just saying….

    • Night Owl November 7, 2020 at 4:06 am #

      A new troll handle arrives. Returning or random newbie?

      • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 6:06 am #

        Oooohhhh…! Maybe it’s the mysterious Jello?

        • benr November 7, 2020 at 10:21 am #

          Oh well hello Jello.

    • gustafson.robert.22 November 7, 2020 at 12:08 pm #

      Agree with all but last sentence here. Almost no people in the US of any group racial or otherwise have any coherent idea of what to replace the status quo with…hence a landscape of children and empty melodramas on all sides.

  84. messianicdruid November 6, 2020 at 11:27 pm #

    Kim, Why change horses in the middle of the stream ? Somebody has to be caught holding the bag.

    • Kim November 7, 2020 at 1:08 am #

      @ messianicdruid

      I don’t understand what you are trying to say.

      • messianicdruid November 7, 2020 at 9:34 am #

        “The point of electing Trump was to ensure that the USA did not suffer the full brunt of the decline (America First) and did not have all of her wealth offshored to China.”

        What is the point of electing Joe? To go ahead with making China the head and USA the tail?

        • messianicdruid November 7, 2020 at 9:35 am #

          Or leave Joe holding the bag [ blame for reset ].

        • Kim November 7, 2020 at 9:03 pm #

          Yep. Joe, the entire permanent state, and the media now work for China.

  85. Soul Forensics November 6, 2020 at 11:47 pm #

    Ha ha! Tucker Carlson (who, according to some, is running for the Red Staters in 2024 even though no one knows who’ll win in 2020 yet) called Joe Biden a hologram, and ‘progressive’ twittersphere is melting down.

    Too rich, coming from the same specimens who, for the past 4 years, have entertained themselves with Trump LARPing, outlandish cartoon memes, third grader japes.

    If the criminals manage to haul Biden’s carcass across the finish line, I can already imagine their defense of Biden’s downhome charm and connection to the common personhood. Probably try to defend his pauses mid-sentence as Biden the Thoughtful, too. Till the even more pleasant VP gives him the 1940s hook offstage.

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    • Yohannon November 7, 2020 at 1:09 am #

      The glazed retard look etched on Biden’s face. Classic dementia. Trump went easy on him. Didn’t want to be unkind. But the favor has not been returned by the Retard’s followers.

      They made a huge thing about pronouncing her name and now Tucker’s never going to let go of it. Great jujitsu throw. Caught her mispronouncing her own name and now he claims she doesn’t know how to pronounce her own name. Love it.

      • Kim November 7, 2020 at 8:42 am #

        Yeh, his face looks like he has been brushed with eggwhites and given 15 minutes in a medium oven.

        • bye_then November 7, 2020 at 1:45 pm #

          It’s called a tan.

          You really should get out of the house more.

          • Kim November 7, 2020 at 9:01 pm #

            He says in defense of a guy who has spent the last six months in the basement.

  86. Yohannon November 7, 2020 at 1:11 am #

    Great Hannity tonight. Mark Levin was on fire at 29:40, castigating the Republican Rats like Chris Christie who are trying to disassociate themselves from Trump by asking, What cheating?


    • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 6:10 am #

      Chris Christie: “Who? Trump? I barely know the guy…did a few odd-jobs for him but no money changed gangs -okay???”

      • Kim November 7, 2020 at 8:41 am #

        Who Trump? Sorry, I thought he was a cookie and ate him.

    • bye_then November 7, 2020 at 1:13 pm #

      Rats leaving a sinking ship.

      Or should that be…

      Shits leaving a sinking rat?

  87. BackRowHeckler November 7, 2020 at 3:19 am #

    Biden is saying his victory is “a mandate to take immediate action on Climate Change and Systemic Racism.”

    Now all the sudden I’m seeing Hollywood scum, MSM douches and Big Lefty Pols call for national unity “We’re all in this together”.

    A look at the electoral map shows the whole center of the United States a solid red. F##k their unity. Where was the call for unity in the past 4 years? How long before sh#t starts going bad for Sleepy Joe on all fronts? 4 or 5 months, even with ass kissing media backstopping Biden all the way. Then it will be time to rub his nose in his failures. We’ll see if this octogenarian can take the heat like Trump did.


    • tucsonspur November 7, 2020 at 4:02 am #

      You read my mind. I’ll say it, fuck ’em.

      • tucsonspur November 7, 2020 at 4:15 am #

        Or I read yours.

      • benr November 7, 2020 at 9:21 am #

        Taking one from the insane leftist turds Biden and his disgusting Soros funded VP are not my President or VP.

    • Kim November 7, 2020 at 4:11 am #

      @ BRH

      They means “We’re all in this together against whites”.

      The next few year’s Oscar nominations should be beauts, as the racial quotas wrt performers, stories and technical crew are introduced.

      The thing that gets me about these PC Hollywood stories, and jokes like casting a Hottentot as Anne Bolyn and such-like, is that there is really no historical need for them to make up the ridiculous bullshit they make.

      Why not? Because there are plenty of truthful racially-PC stories they could tell.

      For example, some modern Milos Forman could direct the story of Alexandre Dumas. His life was interesting. He was a darkie in 19th C France. He wrote the damned Three Musketeers!

      Dumas’ father was a darkie – reputedly a big and enormously strong man – and was a general under Napoleon in Egypt. (Off the top of my head I am not sure on all the details but here is a link)


      Thsi story has everything: Black men with white women! Black men being successful at war and in the arts!

      What is wrong with it? What’s that you say? No racism?

      Oh yeh. I see what you mean.

      Of course, I wouldn’t go see it anyway. I don’t watch movies with black people in them. I need white role models.

      • BackRowHeckler November 7, 2020 at 4:30 am #

        I don’t think too many people are watching the Oscars anymore, Kim. Actually one of the positives of this Covid epidemic is that has essentially shut down Hollywood; movies are not being made, and theaters are going bankrupt. More good news: ratings for woke NBA, NFL and MLB have tanked. Apparently sports fans don’t want lectures on race relations from coddled, overpaid, multimillionaires who drive Bentleys and live in 50,000 sq ft mansions. Go figure.


        • malthuss November 7, 2020 at 8:24 am #

          Millions watched the last Oscars.
          But the numbers shrink, year after year.

  88. tucsonspur November 7, 2020 at 3:57 am #

    Bill Maher said that Trump is finally on the other end of an eviction notice. Still doing his tired marijuana jokes and seems really happy about all the drug legalization in Oregon. Anything goes….

    Trump should give a renunciation speech. I hope I don’t hear any coming together, unity tripe. Review what the Democrats have done over four years, what the media has done siding with Biden, etc. A good writer can have him avoid the sour grapes.

    Widen the split, leave the nation on edge, rally his millions and let the Democrats know they’re in for one hell of a time. What haunts me though is that after Trump there’s no real fire.

    I don’t believe that Trump himself will be too involved with politics once he’s out of the limelight, even without legal issues, and who knows how he’ll handle this demeaning loss to Biden.

    • Kim November 7, 2020 at 4:14 am #

      Yep. Take that split and make it a chasm.

      And any RINOs and whiners should get a clear message. Only America First people are going to be selected as candidates for 2022 and 2024.

      The toleration of treason is over.

      Trump doesn’t have to be too involved personally. He has his sons for that, if need be.

    • benr November 7, 2020 at 9:19 am #

      Trump says he will run again in 2024 if the country allows Biden to cheat and “win” the election.

  89. Night Owl November 7, 2020 at 4:03 am #

    CNN subtracts votes on-screen in real time. Propaganda/fraud in action.


    • bye_then November 7, 2020 at 1:40 pm #

      Scraping the barrel now.

      • Night Owl November 7, 2020 at 2:35 pm #

        Just another example of fraud in the open.

        The fraudsters are low IQ, like you.

  90. Night Owl November 7, 2020 at 5:23 am #

    And now time for a little fun. Take a look at this screen grab of the corrupt PA AG (a request for an entirely new vote for PA appears to be making its way to the Supreme Court)

    Notice the items on the bookshelf. I did not see this interpretation anywhere else, but here is what I (personally) come up with:

    There is a USPS truck and a doll of The Count of Sesame Street fame positioned prominently, and the clock is at 2:46.

    So: Mail-in ballot count goes to 46. 46 being the 46th President they want to install via fraud.

    Other interpretations? This is for shits and giggles, but it is most interesting.


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    • Night Owl November 7, 2020 at 5:27 am #

      Sorry, should be 1:46. But the same interpretation can be drawn. 1 being “won”

    • bye_then November 7, 2020 at 1:18 pm #

      Other interpretation:

      The screenshot was taken at 1.46.

  91. Kim November 7, 2020 at 8:23 am #

    The people who are doing the voter fraud are very high quality individuals.


    Social Worker Hit With 134 Felony Fraud-Related Counts for Trying to Vote on Behalf of the Disabled

    Attorney General Ken Paxton today announced that his Election Fraud Unit assisted the Limestone County Sheriff and District Attorney in charging Kelly Reagan Brunner, a social worker in the Mexia State Supported Living Center (SSLC), with 134 felony counts of purportedly acting as an agent and of election fraud. State Supported Living Centers serve people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. Brunner submitted voter registration applications for 67 residents without their signature or effective consent, while purporting to act as their agent.

    If convicted, Brunner faces up to 10 years in prison for the alleged offenses.

    But I am sure this is just an isolated incident.

    • Kim November 7, 2020 at 8:26 am #

      You absolutely MUST open this link and look at the picture of Kelly Reagan Brunner.

      Absolutely classic leftist women.


      • elysianfield November 7, 2020 at 10:10 am #

        Damn, she’s hot. Any naked pic’s?

        • Night Owl November 7, 2020 at 10:46 am #

          Why do they all look the same?

          • JohnAZ November 7, 2020 at 11:20 am #

            Ugly and drugged.

          • benr November 7, 2020 at 11:48 am #

            She is missing the purple, green and blue hair.
            Everything is else disgusting.

      • Sean Coleman November 8, 2020 at 6:03 pm #


    • BackRowHeckler November 7, 2020 at 1:53 pm #

      Phew, what a babe!

      A Texas honeysuckle sweetheart, the kind George Strait sang about.


  92. Kim November 7, 2020 at 8:38 am #

    Ths is very interesting. With a bit of luck, the Republicans would take the House.

    Trump campaign lawsuit against Pennsylvania’s late ballots could flip the House to the GOP


    Biden in the White House with a Republican House and Senate.

    I wonder if he’d enjoy the impeachment over his treasonous dealings
    with China, Ukraine, etc. Would he even know it was happening?

    And then there’s Kamala. Lots and lots and lots of House and Senate enquiries in her future.

    The Dems set the table for this. It would be good to see how they like eating their own cooking.

    SCOTUS Orders Pennsylvania to Separate Ballots Arriving After Election Day


    And there we are. I would guess it is now only a question of whether comingling has made a true count impossible.

    Cross toes as well as fingers, people.

    • FreddieMars November 7, 2020 at 2:45 pm #

      As I understand it, all ballots are canvassed by at least 2 scrutineers, one from each party, who agree on its validity before sending it on for tabulation and counting. Surely, we’ll soon see a horde of GOP scrutineers coming to the news to expose all this alleged fraud with their first-hand knowledge…right?

      • Kim November 7, 2020 at 8:55 pm #

        @ FreddieMars

        I would appreciate a link to an official pennsylvania government election site that explains this process.

        I’ll wait.

        • Kim November 7, 2020 at 8:58 pm #

          And of course, if it could also explain how observers can scrutinize from covid distances… that is, if they are allowed into the counting rooms.

          • FreddieMars November 8, 2020 at 4:11 am #

            This bullshit is tantamount to saying an election can’t be held because…COVID.

        • FreddieMars November 8, 2020 at 4:10 am #

          Funny. When you unilaterally stamped “troll” on my forehead, one of the criticisms was asking others to go find stuff (which I in fact only do IF I cannot find it myself).

          But, here you go, lazybones. I could give you the page numbers that specifically explain my statement, but no doubt you’re an accomplished speed reader!


  93. benr November 7, 2020 at 9:37 am #

    Well at least the empty nonsense the leftist turds always said about election fraud can’t be mouth breathed.
    Why would I say that?
    Because I pointed out election fraud is reality and that Nixon went off the deep end because of cook county Illinois election fraud.
    To which one of the legion of buffoons’ said name something not fifty years old.

    For the next twenty years I can point to this farce!

    With that said it is time we Americans demand fair and monitored elections.
    First step voting in person with “real ID’s” MANDATORY!
    One vote, one person, and a system in place that will all but discourage voter fraud like mandatory 20 year hard labor sentences no exception.
    I would even go so far as to call it treason with maximum penalty of expulsion removal of citizenship and or death.

  94. benr November 7, 2020 at 9:52 am #

    Murder by numbers the art of killing a country.


    • bye_then November 7, 2020 at 1:38 pm #

      Sting on Trump:

      “I’m terrified by the idea of Donald Trump. He wears far too much hairspray for my liking.”

      Not great for political insight, I admit. But acceptable by the standards of CFN.

      • BackRowHeckler November 7, 2020 at 2:53 pm #

        What are your standards, Cargill. A new day, a new name.

  95. JohnAZ November 7, 2020 at 11:07 am #

    Trump needs to treat the Democrats just like they treated him in 2017.

    Transition team. Minimal cooperation, just like Obama.

    Stay in Mar-a-Lago and frequently take pot shots at the foibles of Biden’s administration, just like Obama.

    Put together a team of lawyers to uncover more criminal activity by the Biden’s, hook onto their soon to be obvious connections with China, our no. 1 enemy, help the hopefully GOP Senate to continue investigations into aforementioned activities and set up to impeach Biden when the House flips in 2022.

    Use the up to now inconsequential small stations OAN, and News max to start a publicity campaign against Biden. Promote them onto cable and streaming networks.

    Buy either the NYT or the Washington Post and fire the entire staffs and replace them. Use them as a platform to attack Biden.

    Promote financially GOP candidates in 2022. Also stump for them if asked.

    Move to throw the Lincoln group out of the GOP. They are a nuisance.
    Work to incorporate the more sane Dems and working people into the Trump GOP nest.

    Favor conservative issues everywhere. Undermine the MSM everywhere.

    Should keep him occupied.

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    • Q. Shtik November 7, 2020 at 9:19 pm #

      Buy either the NYT or the Washington Post and fire the entire staffs and replace them. – JAZ


      As a gesture of reasonableness you could keep the honcho in charge of the Wednesday Food Section. 🙂

    • HapMan November 7, 2020 at 10:02 pm #


      Your man-crush will be occupied, but not in the ways you have suggested.

      It will be a buyers’ market for his hotels and clubs, because events and bookings there just became a heck of a lot less interesting – no, make that utterly toxic – for the lobbyists, industry junkets and foreign diplomats who have been keeping the lights on.

      He has a few hundred million dollars of personally guaranteed debt coming due, US banks won’t lend to him, and Deutsche is trying to find a way out. Between his lousy business track record and the inevitable heat from his legal problems (see below), no financier in its right mind will want to touch him. Good thing he pulled an OJ and changed his residency to Florida, so they can’t take his house!

      Let’s just say, at a minimum, all of that will make it hard for him to buy the Post or the Times. Even if that weren’t a funny notion in the first place.

      He will be spending money on lawyers, but again not for the reasons you think. There is an indictment of someone referred to as Individual #1 sitting in a very important desk drawer in lower Manhattan and ready to be filed on or after January 20, when said individual loses his immunity.

      Then there are the NYS tax fraud cases that even a self-pardon won’t stop.

      All of this will complicate his ability to promote financially GOP candidates, as you put it.

      My guess is that Biden and Cuomo work out slap-on-the-wrist deals or flat-out pardons for him, in the interest of moving the country past all of this shit. But he’ll probably have to sweat it out for a hot minute first.

      So yeah, he’ll be occupied. And yeah, he knows it.

  96. JohnAZ November 7, 2020 at 11:19 am #

    What goes around comes around!

    Vengeance is a meal best served cold.

    It amazes me, the Dems and RINOs promoting bi partisan feelings now, after what they did to the Deplorables for four years.

    Screw them, this country is NOT United.

    • BackRowHeckler November 7, 2020 at 12:04 pm #

      Hey JAZ, Lincoln Project Republicans … what will be their role now that they’ve helped bring down Trump? A seat at the Dem table? Reorganize the Party around Mittens Romney and George Will? What exactly?


    • MiddlePeninsula November 7, 2020 at 1:14 pm #

      Screw them is right! Watch me act like the Dems from the last four years. I’ve already written off my sister. She can take her Biden and stick it up her ass. Whoops, he might like that. Why I am going to get on Twitter again so I can spend all my days writing nasty things about Biden and the Dems. I can’t wait! I am going to support “Blue Lives Matter” and “All Lives Matter” and I am going to insist that there are only two sexes. Maybe I will go to some libtard rallies and insist they call me a Martian because that is what I really believe I am. It is going to be a great four years!

      • Kim November 7, 2020 at 8:43 pm #

        A better us of your energ would be to attend some repub party meetings, hold your tongue and see what is going on.

        All of the nation’s problems begin at the grass roots meetings. They decide policies and electoral slates. They are the RINO base.

      • hmuller November 8, 2020 at 12:25 am #

        If it’s a Biden Libtard rally, you’ll know you are there when you come to an empty room.

  97. wwg1wga November 7, 2020 at 11:22 am #

    The secret of spontaneous positive change…


  98. stelmosfire November 7, 2020 at 12:20 pm #

    BLACK LIVES MATTER PLAZA, DC across form the white house. A restive, moiling crowd gathers. The Trumpster must fall. Da peeple done spoke. Russia could not save him. Covid brought him down. All hail the hair fondlin, sniffin, bumbling, corn-pop beatin’ crooked ol’ foo. from the swamp. Pennsylvania vote 7,000,000 people vote a split of only 10,000. How is that even possible.

    • BackRowHeckler November 7, 2020 at 12:34 pm #

      How long do you give Sleepy Joe as President, RIP? I’m thinking they’ll be able to cover up his dementia until around next June, tops. What might happen is during some speech or public appearance he’ll begin mumbling incoherently, and will have to be led off the podium, never to be seen again.


  99. Yohannon November 7, 2020 at 12:42 pm #

    The Media now declaring Biden the winner. Ignore them. Or else don’t bother ever again with America or politics. The Supreme Court decide