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    The din of war drums beating hasn’t completely drowned out the barrage of lying bullshit issued by US Deep State blobsters in their effort to keep reality at bay from a citizenry gone restive and aggrieved over the seemingly deliberate ruination of our country by the people who run it.

    On Thursday, FBI Director Chris Wray and Homeland Security chief Alejandro Mayorkas warned Americans that terrorist threats are rising in the US since Hamas attacked Israel, October 7th. Mr. Wray explained: “Here in the U.S., we cannot and do not discount the possibility that Hamas or other foreign terrorist organizations could exploit the conflict to call on their supporters to conduct attacks on our own soil.” We must be especially alert to the “lone wolf” lurking  amongst us, he added.

    Neither of these officials noted that the rising terror threat here had any relation to the thousands of aliens streaming daily across the US border unvetted, or that the agencies under Homeland Security were helping to distribute them into every corner of America by plane and bus, giving them free cell phones, loaded debit cards, and other rewards for breaking the law.

     And that “lone wolf” bit — is it possible that any number of them actually arrived as trained and pre-organized cadres or squads? How would we know? Most of them are military-age young men. Are these unreasonable questions to ask? And if Hamas was so supernaturally successful in secretly planning the mass murder and kidnapping operation of 10/7 from Gaza that the world’s supposedly top intel agencies were blindsided as it rolled out, why should Americans have any confidence that the FBI has a clue what any of those unvetted border-jumping mutts are up to here? Especially since those free phones enable them to find each other and hook-up right from the get-go, without delay. It’s even possible that those phones were preloaded with their comrades’ numbers on speed-dial. Not to mention that illegal migrants have been coming here in huge waves for years, and surely some have been busy ever since setting up networks aimed at making trouble that new arrivals can easily slot into.

     Since the FBI has been so preoccupied the duration of the “Joe Biden” regime tracking down every native-born living soul who attended the 1/6/21 riot at the US Capitol, instead of using the agency’s assets to monitor alien networking, you have to wonder why Mr. Wray even bothers to comment on the current situation. He can only embarrass (or incriminate) himself more deeply. One thing for sure is not happening: any effort by Mr. Mayorkas and his 260,000 employees to make the US/Mexico border any less porous. If it hadn’t occurred to them yet, they might consider closing down the US-funded United Nations operation in Central America (with help from several international NGOs) that is running way-stations to transport aliens north to our border in hundred-plus bus fleets at a time, taking every possible advantage to accelerate the flow. I guess we’ll just have to stand by and see what happens.

      Speaking of mind-blowing bullshit, emanating from a different pseudopod of the DC blob, former CIA Director Leon Panetta chimed in with Fox News’s Bret Baier last week to declare he still thinks that Hunter Biden’s laptop was a Russian dis-info operation. Mr. Panetta was a co-signer of the notorious letter from 50 other former US Intel bigwigs in October, 2020, a few weeks before the election, organized by former Acting CIA Director Mike Morell to gaslight voters after The New York Post published the existence of the Laptop from Hell and some of its sordid contents tending to incriminate the Biden family for foreign influence-peddling.

     As with so many blobsters infesting government and its nether regions, Leon Panetta likes to demonstrate that his contempt for the people of this land is boundless. He can’t possibly believe what he is saying. Everyone from the FBI to The New York Times has declared Hunter’s laptop authentic. Therefore, Leon Panetta is either a fool, a lying scoundrel, or insane. This kind of self-satisfied dishonor is a new thing in the USA, at least at the colossal scale it has achieved the past decade. In 2023 it is the order-of-the-day. In this particular case, it led to putting “Joe Biden,” with his handlers and movers, in a position to destroy the country, and they are getting it done.

      Yet, events are still in motion, and decades are happening in days now. We’ll learn this week whether escalation of the war involving Israel and its enemies can be averted without giving Hamas a pass on consequences for its recent murder spree. We’ll learn whether a meaningful opposition against the Party of Chaos can organize around a new House speaker. We’ll learn whether that same assembly can begin the process of laying out a president’s crimes for all in the nation to see, including the sizeable cohort of citizens who relish official lying and being lied to.

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807 Responses to “Who Do They Think They’re Kidding?”

  1. Alfred October 16, 2023 at 9:44 am #

    In short, clown world.

    • cbeard October 16, 2023 at 11:27 am #

      Clown world indeed. “I guess we’ll just have to stand by and see what happens.” That is what America has been doing for decades. Standing by to see what happens. Well, it has happened. Actually it’s been happening during all of those aforementioned decades. Probably too late to stop it now. When Americans wake up, they will find they have been invaded by our enemies from points all over the world by way of our completely open border and bankrupt from a total lack of any fiscal responsibility. With a populace dumbed down by a government run educational system. The founding fathers are rolling in their graves at what a shithole this country has become.

      • RD3 October 16, 2023 at 11:35 am #

        Our third-world government befits our third-world population.

        • AmericanObserver October 16, 2023 at 11:58 am #

          Import the third world, you get the third world.

          • elysianfield October 16, 2023 at 2:54 pm #

            Yes, but…but they will assimilate, yes? How many years of Coca Cola, junk food, mindless TV celebs and unlimited porn is required to destroy their cultural beliefs and inculcate those of the good old USSA?

            Months? Years?

          • Paula D October 16, 2023 at 5:30 pm #

            My kids are friends with a lot of first generation Americans, children of recent immigrants.

            In my experience, they are the same as any other American kid. American accent, American interests, etc. All of them grew up around other Americans, including other children of immigrants, but from different countries, so they turned out American.

            I think it might be different for kids brought up in ethnic enclaves, like the Somalis in MN.

          • RD3 October 17, 2023 at 7:46 am #

            They aren’t Americans.

          • Jarek October 18, 2023 at 12:47 pm #

            People are different with different people. Many of the Jihadis are just so such 2nd generation types, no doubt with accents and habits befitting their place of birth, and underneath that terrible angst and bitterness.

            A superficial analysis by Paula.

          • Paula D October 18, 2023 at 10:24 pm #

            Jarek, first generation American, speaks.

          • Jarek October 19, 2023 at 12:25 pm #

            White Christians immigrating to a White Christian nation, Paula. Letting in Somali Muslims is a very different thing, you see.

            Thus you are defeated, etc.

          • Paula D October 19, 2023 at 4:38 pm #

            I specifically excluded Somalis in enclaves from my observation.

            I win.

      • Cankerpuss October 16, 2023 at 2:11 pm #

        I look at it this way, from a religious perspective. I believe that we are in the end times prophesied by ancient prophets in the Bible. We are witnessing events that are leading up to the return of a divine individual known as Jesus Christ.

        I believe that when Christ returns there will be no United States. Why? Think about it. If you are a Christian and you believe we are in the end times and that Christ’s return is inevitable, what kind of an environment is he going to return to?

        When Christ returns will they hold a joint session of the US Congress and invite Christ to be their key note speaker to discuss the merits of abortion and how to settle budgetary woes? Not likely.

        When Christ returns will they invite him onto MSNBC with other talking heads to discuss the pros and cons of transgenderism and homosexuality? Not hardly.

        When he returns he will return to a world that is officially ready for his return, either through destruction at our own hands or destruction at his hands. Personally, I believe we are going to destroy ourselves and will be ready and eager for his mighty return.

        For those of you who are not of faith, please ignore my comments. You have to be a person of faith for any of this to make any sense.

        • tuco22 October 16, 2023 at 2:55 pm #

          I agree with you, cankerpuss. “When you see these things begin to happen….” Since we know the end of the story, we can see that all the “solutions” to the country’s or the world’s problems aren’t going to work, no matter what party’s “in charge” at the moment.

        • Slugoon October 17, 2023 at 4:26 am #

          I’m not in the slightest bit religious but I agree that this is generally how things will go down, just without the supernatural element.

      • ThorsHammer October 16, 2023 at 10:40 pm #


        What we are missing in the US of A is a proper Reservation for snakes like Panetta.

        Start with the nastiest, gator infested swamp in Louisiana. Dig a moat around it and build a razor wire fence around the outside. Round up the Clinton and Biden Crime Families and the mass murderers on the boards of directors of Pfizer, Gates. and fellow drug pushers. Supply each with a Boy Scout knife, strip them naked, and helicopter them into the middle of the Reservation.

        Survival of the fittest.

      • Uncle Bob October 19, 2023 at 10:11 pm #

        My late Dad told me years ago that America was finished by 1950 because of infiltration by the NKVD/KGB and other malign foreign influences. He worked in the intel services back in the Eisenhower and Kennedy Administrations, and probably had seen information he took to his grave about the rot in Washington.

        My personal feeling is that the America envisioned by the Founders died around the time of Andrew “The Heto” Jackson, but staggered along until the Civil War gave birth to a new nation with a strong central government and the near-destruction of the Tenth Amendment. That government is the one that’s been dismantled over the last 125 years by the arrogant proto-socialists who labeled themselves Progressives appeared on the scene.

        As for the fuckstains in Congress who call themselves “conservatives,” all most of them seem to care about is who gets to play with the blocks and who gets the Etch-A-Sketch, and to hell with the country or it’s people. I’ve been beating my head against walls on other news sites trying to explain to people that Gaetz had cause for torpedoing McCarthy, but he’s too fucking stupid to have lined up a replacement Speaker before he acted. As a result, there are around 220 Republican toddlers, dunces, skanks, self-appointed “leaders” who can’t lead a one-person parade, and charlatans who would rather fuck each other over than do their job of picking one of them to be Speaker and taking care of necessary legislation before the country goes bust. I have a near-pathological hated of the Democrats, but they know how to unite and advance an agenda against all opposition as if they’re Alexander’s army campaigning against the assemblage of undisciplined yokels they call average Americans. Barring divine intervention, they’re going to win and turn America into another socialist people’s paradise, and we’re all to blame for not standing against them because “it’s hard.”

    • cedricward October 17, 2023 at 6:32 pm #

      If you ever worried about winding up in Hell,


      We’re already here.

      We just haven’t seen

      the full extent of it.

    • Bill October 19, 2023 at 1:03 pm #

      Spot on as always. All true! Major operation going on from Central America to bring MILLIONS of African migrants to the U.S. via Europe to Guatemala City to El Salvador to MGA. MGA BUS TO U.S..on new Chinese Buses…latino Criminals also allowed on buses. Traditional hard working latinos with families must find their own ride.

  2. lizharmon October 16, 2023 at 9:47 am #

    No better way to get the people on board for Nuclear World War than an attack or 20 on the Homeland. It’s an old game. I’ve seen it too many times now to play along.

    • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 9:52 am #

      If and when such an attack occurs, it will no doubt be used to remove what’s left of Americans’ God-given freedoms.

      • Organist1022 October 16, 2023 at 10:18 am #

        In the short term martial law. No election.

      • jackrabbit October 16, 2023 at 10:25 am #

        How many times have we heard this tired argument before??

        • Organist1022 October 16, 2023 at 10:45 am #

          Is that a reply to me?

          They used whatever means necessary to remove Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell and Pence from the chamber to derail the process – with the bogus bomb threat as plan B. You think they wouldn’t allow some “events” at this juncture? OK then.

          • devnickle October 16, 2023 at 2:17 pm #

            Are you talking about Trump and J6’ers? Because, if you’re saying that’s the problem, you’re part of the problem.

        • benr October 16, 2023 at 12:38 pm #

          Good question except why would they bother to think up a new playbook when Americans keep falling for the same old tricks?

          • Ron Anselmo October 16, 2023 at 5:06 pm #

            Yes benr – like Steve Spurrier, legendary “Head Ball Coach” of the University of Florida Fightin’ Gator football team.

            He was famous for running up the score on opponents because he said it was the singular purpose of his offense to score points – regardless of how many.

            To your point: In doing so, he would say I’ll keep running the same play over and over until they can figure out how to stop it. And he would – no need for a new play if the same one keeps working (over & over).

        • Wizard of the Saddle October 17, 2023 at 10:24 am #

          How many times must we watch the cork rocket out your mouth as you spew nonsense on this forum?

      • abbybwood October 16, 2023 at 1:38 pm #

        Last night Dr. John Campbell on YT played a speech by a man in the EU detailing how the WHO (the Bill and Melinda Gates outfit) is in the final stages to take over the entire planet with future “pandemics” only THEY will be deciding. The new TREATY will give WHO the authority to lockdown citizens of ALL signatory countries and will give them authority to MANDATE all vaccines, gene therapies and other treatments THEY deem necessary with no debate from signatory countries.

        No rights will be allowed to have legal recourse for injuries, refusals etc.

        The media is ignoring this world government take-over as is our Congress.

        This will automatically go into effect in early 2025 if our Congress does not vote to get out of it. We will lose all sovereignty as a country. It could be sooner if I have my dates wrong.

        I see this power play as the most dangerous move our country has faced as the Constitution declares that treaties are “the highest law of the land”. Congress could rubber stamp this in the dead of night and then it would be too late to stop it.

        Please watch the latest from Dr. John Campbell. Americans need to make this a major primary issue as soon as possible.

        The clock is ticking on this and the sound is terrifying.

        • Cankerpuss October 16, 2023 at 2:17 pm #

          Doesn’t matter, Abby. We have no representation anymore. Congress doesn’t care to listen to the people. The people don’t care to hold Congress accountable.

          My advice? Get some food storage, live debt free, and work on a barter kit. Buckle up for a long long difficult time.

          • tuco22 October 16, 2023 at 2:41 pm #

            I would go so far as to suggest that we’re no longer under constitutional governance, given what I’ve read about these last several weeks. I’ve long suspected that congress merely rubber stamps what has been decided at a higher level, slapping the terms HR or Act on it, and calling it a day before heading to the parking garages to collect their BMW’s.

          • Cankerpuss October 16, 2023 at 4:05 pm #

            Well said, Tucco, an appropriate description of an elite club that has frittered away any authority it used to have.

            The sad thing is this was done decades before you or I were even conceived in our mothers’ wombs.

          • Heartlander October 16, 2023 at 5:08 pm #


            “I’ve long suspected that congress merely rubber stamps what has been decided at a higher level”

            Yep. Read “The Covid Conspiracy,” a very, very good book by Thierry Baudet, a populist political leader in the Netherlands, about his waking up to how entities at a higher level than national governments are dictating orders that national leaders in nearly every country are lock-step obeying.

            Heck, one of the “pandemic simulations some years ago, organized by the Rockefeller Foundation, was actually TITLED “Operation Lockstep.” These bastards “hide” their agenda in plain sight. Those with eyes to see can see it full well — once we break out of our psychological blinders of denial and normalcy bias.

          • Night Owl October 16, 2023 at 5:34 pm #

            They don’t drive BMWs. Those are still largely for driving connoisseurs.

            They drive Audis, the overpriced VW shopping car with the spaceship interior and an anvil over the front wheels.

          • Night Owl October 16, 2023 at 5:35 pm #

            “Heck, one of the “pandemic simulations some years ago, organized by the Rockefeller Foundation, was actually TITLED “Operation Lockstep.” These bastards “hide” their agenda in plain sight. Those with eyes to see can see it full well — once we break out of our psychological blinders of denial and normalcy bias”

            Some of us posted those documents repeatedly. Only a handful cared.

            Even now, their attention spans have shifted to Israel or whatever new narrative is dominating the McMedia headlines.

            Sometimes I think we really are going to lose it all.


          • GreenAlba October 16, 2023 at 10:03 pm #

            Heartlander: Re higher entities that instruct governments, Iain Davis has produced a handy schematic showing the levels of organisation and decision making. Just scroll down a couple of paragraphs.

            The article is about the New Normal British Dictatorship, but the model described in the diagram is global.


          • ThorsHammer October 16, 2023 at 10:18 pm #

            Defining Democracy:

            Democracy is a political system wherein a ruling class regularly organizes election circuses to enable them to decide the disposition of the political spoils. The “voters” cast votes for their favorite teams, and the “elections” are declared decided.

            Never forget that choosing between alternate casts of crooks constitutes no choice at all.

            And in a Democracy what counts is not who you vote for, but who counts the votes.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 4:48 am #

            They don’t drive BMWs. Those are still largely for driving connoisseurs.” ~ Night Owl

            Which of course you drive, yes?

            They are ok, but I’m less-than-crazy about the small-snout style of the front. The cars looks kind of average, almost as homely as the Lexuses (Lexi?) but I’m no connoisseur.
            I know someone who recently got rid of her BMW because it was too expensive to fix and maintain.

            If I had some money to blow and the mindset that came along with it and had to pick some sort of non-custom, mass-production connoisseur-level mobile living-room-on-wheels, a Porsche might be preferred.

            If I had yet more money and a similar mindset, maybe McLaren. (And Lotus?) Ferraries and Lamborghinis, while ok, never quite appealed like the McLarens and maybe others I forget. But maybe they’re different these days.

            But what with the misfortune I had early on with my roadway toys, they would need to be bombproof or at least super affordable in case they did bomb. So maybe a road-certified dirt/off-road bike.

            Now that I think about it, of the cheaper, though somewhat different utilitarian cars, I used to prefer the original Austin Minis over the original Volkswagen Beetles.

            What do you think about the Monotracer?


            It has a BMW engine. There are also electric versions.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 4:58 am #

            This is my old bike, the one a friend, without my explicit permission, emptied the radiator of and replaced it with water instead of antifreeze.
            So it froze while parked outside and so when turned back on, the pistons overheated and almost seized. I had to get a new piston and sold it shortly thereafter.
            My friend probably saved my life, though, because I used to ride it too fast and without proper leather:


          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 5:02 am #

            @ThorsHammer: Yep.

          • Night Owl October 17, 2023 at 3:16 pm #

            “Which of course you drive, yes?”

            Yes, because it is a RWD chassis, with balanced weight distribution, and a harmonically balanced straight-6 engine–which are things you probably want if you like to drive.

            Has nothing to do with snobbery. I’d gladly by a 20-year-old one for peanuts if it were kept up.

            Porsche make great cars, but I am not sure I could be seen in a modern one. Too flashy. Cayman GT2 is probably marvelous to drive, however.

          • Night Owl October 17, 2023 at 3:17 pm #


          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 18, 2023 at 1:20 am #

            I’ll have to look up RWD chassis and what that means, but I appreciate balance even with my mountain bikes.

            I looked up the new McLaren and it just looks like a plain sports car, so scratch that. Good point about flashy.

          • Night Owl October 18, 2023 at 3:37 am #

            It means rear-wheel drive.

            Which is generally what you want for driving enjoyment. Rear-biased AWD is also nice.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 18, 2023 at 4:08 am #

            Oh ya that’s right– rear wheel drive. I had heard stories a long time ago about how front wheel drive was supposed to be in some ways better, maybe to avoid spinning out under hard acceleration or to pull a car through snow with less likelihood of skidding. Nowadays, what with anti-skid and who knows what else, going back to RWD might make sense.

            Back when I got my Yamaha, monoshocks and anti-dive front shocks, and even where the stanchions were on the bottom seemed to be just getting going for road and maybe dirt bikes too. Perhaps some earlier 2-strokes had liquid cooling, but it still seemed rare.

          • Night Owl October 18, 2023 at 7:52 am #

            FWD is chosen for economy cars (or cars where the manufacturer wants to charge you for other things), as it is cheap to manufacture and suitable for grocery getting. Some people like how it behaves in snow, because all the weight is over the drive wheels, which feels safer to the average unskilled driver.

            If you actually enjoy driving, FWD is the worst drive configuration, as it understeers heavily at the limits of grip. The front axle is handicapped as it is nose heavy and has to both turn and provide drive.

            RWD platforms are much better balanced, as the weight of the engine and the tranny is between the axles.

            There are many other benefits, too, but this post would be very long if I got going.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 18, 2023 at 10:01 am #

            Interesting stuff actually, thanks, Night’.

          • Night Owl October 18, 2023 at 10:46 am #

            If you have a means to translate it, or if you speak some German, you might find this article interesting:


            Focuses on VW/Audi and BMW, mostly chastising Audi for selling customers expensive cars that are unable to perform as they claim due to their design flaws (FWD, engine way out over the front axle, etc.).

            It is a fascinating read from a “dinosaur” of the German automotive press. I think Audi banned him from doing press drives and events at one point.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 19, 2023 at 5:07 pm #

            I’ll check it out, thanks, and might have a better appreciation for BMW’s. I’ve always liked their motocycles.

        • Paula D October 16, 2023 at 2:36 pm #

          You are right that the Constitution says that a signed treaty is the law of the land.

          Recall, though, that the US signed the 1972 treaty banning chemical and biological warfare. How’s that working out for us?

          If they don’t want to abide by a treaty, they don’t.

          I agree, however, that they will totally abide by this one.

          I see this as a continuation of the global corporate takeover they have been pushing since the 90s, with the WTO and NAFTA.

          They tried again in 1999, at the battle for Seattle, then at Cancun, than the TPP under Obama.

          None of them worked, so they are coming in from this angle.
          Hype a “pandemic” for 3 years, then slide in a treaty giving up all sovereignty to the WHO, which is just a cover for Big Pharma and other corporate interests.

          Presto! They have the corporate global governance they’ve been pushing for so long.

          • Ron Anselmo October 16, 2023 at 5:14 pm #

            Yes Paula – and likely a global lockstep response – per the Covid beta test on global coordination – to global economic collapse, that will usher in global acceptance of CBDC.

            Problem. Reaction. Solution.

        • tuco22 October 16, 2023 at 2:49 pm #

          I remember reading about this. I hate to say it, but count on it going into effect in 2025. Most won’t know anything about the ramifications of the treaty and those that do won’t care. National sovereignty means nothing to the average American, even less to the average democrat.

        • elysianfield October 16, 2023 at 2:57 pm #

          The solution to the WHO’s hegemony is simply one of abandoning the current system of measurement for the metric system. 9mm, 762mm, 12.7mm….

          • Grandpa October 16, 2023 at 6:50 pm #

            Yes, ef; ^^ this. There are folks who understand that the only way out of this is ‘through”. To bring an old adage forward to “modern times”…
            “don’t speak to us of your laws and treaties, we have guns.”
            TPTB were too impatient, and also too elderly, to wait for their nefarious plans to come to fruition; and began its final implementation – before wise old folks passed away. They now face an older population with little left to lose, and very bad attitudes regarding what TPTB have done. And they are armed to the teeth.

        • GreenAlba October 16, 2023 at 9:39 pm #

          “This will automatically go into effect in early 2025 […]”

          Abby: They’re planning to have it signed by May 2024. The changes to the International Health Regulations, which are just as devastating, were agreed a year ago and will be ratified this month.

          James Roguski’s Substack is the best place for details, but Meryl Nass and others have covered it on theirs, also the World Council for Health website, I think.

        • Slugoon October 17, 2023 at 4:38 am #

          Global government, control and micro-management of the people through technology is obviously and logically the next step, the historic unit of governance having moved from tribe to region to nation state to bloc etc.

          Do we really think that it’s practical and enforceable though? The Gateses and the WHOs of the world might have these grand plans but I think there’s too much chaos in the world for a self-appointed few to control everything.

          • GreenAlba October 17, 2023 at 6:20 am #

            Slugoon: As well as moving to bigger units, they’ve incorporated the changes at the local level with ICLEI – Local Governments for Sustainability. ICLEI is the conduit from global to local, in terms of Agenda 21/2030.

            “We are a global network of more than 2500 local and regional governments committed to sustainable urban development.”


            The seminal (short) book about their tactics – in the US, but also elsewhere – is Rosa Koire’s Behind the Green Mask: UN Agenda 21.

            She came across it in her work with cities and re-zoning issues. It’s how they’re creating the infrastructure for smart cities/ghettos.

            The battles aren’t being fought at the WEF, but at your local council. Sandi Adams is very good on all this stuff. She’s been lecturing on it all over the world for 15 years and is trying to influence her council in Glastonbury.


            There’s a short discussion here with her and Ivor Cummins (he’s worth checking out on all things covid and new normal), but there are extended interviews with her if you search her name on the UK Column site. She got hold of copies of UN/Club of Rome tomes that are now out of print, containing all the details of what the UN has in store for us in our ant farms.


          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 8:24 am #

            Transition Towns?

            One large problem seems to be that not as many, nor with as much power, are offering ethical alternatives, nor warning the general populations about what might be planned for them, whether they like it or not or consent to it or not.

            But of course it is no surprise, given what we already live under anyway.

            If you are in Britain (well, other places around the globe too), have you ever heard of Transition Towns? Totnes? They may have sort of changed their name to the Transition Network.

            Maybe it’s changed but one concern I had– I was involved with it– was that, while they had/have a lot of good ideas, they still seem(ed) to look to fundamentally-coercive/undemocratic, if more local, governments. Maybe that’s not so, and if they are practicing permaculture, many permies, if not all, including its founder, David Holmgren, are anarchists.

            Is Rob Hopkins anarchist? Is Transition Towns Woke?
            I’d have to look into it.

            But I’ll leave you with a video:


            (Looks like he’s still on his Imagination tack. Fair enough…)

          • GreenAlba October 17, 2023 at 10:42 am #


            I have the original Transition Handbook on a bookshelf. I don’t personally think Hoskins has (or at least had back then) any notions similar to the 15-minute ghettos planned by the UN. He was aware of oil depletion and was for making life more local, similar to JHK. Totnes had (presumably still has?) a ‘Totnes pound’ to help local businesses – likewise Lewes. I’d say that was the opposite of the notion of CBDCs.

            I also have Patrick Whitehead’s ‘The Earth Care Manual’ (UK permaculture bible) from years ago, but my interest could only be academic, as I never had any possibility of owning anywhere with land.

            Portobello, on the outskirts of Edinburgh, is a Transition Town. It’s where the city folks used to go for a beach holiday in years gone by, but it’s just a suburb of Edinburgh now. You certainly wouldn’t know it was a Transition Town, driving through it!

            Anyway, I haven’t looked at TT stuff in many years. I don’t know if it’s been co-opted in any way since then, but I personally don’t see it as having had anything to do with the UN-type top-down initiatives.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 11:49 am #

            I personally don’t see it as having had anything to do with the UN-type top-down initiatives.” ~ GreenAlba

            That’s encouraging, and while he does mention in the video some ostensible State-related buzzwords like ‘green new deal’, ‘climate change’ and ‘universal basic income’, I guess all social movements along ‘transitioning lines’ will have some overlap, intentional or otherwise.

            But it’s still an avenue/option, along with ecovillages, intentional communities and the like and whatever else might be out there, like permaculture and rewilding projects.

            After almost joining an ecovillage, I moved to a small town in Nova Scotia here– about a year before Jim moved to Greenwich– precisely to try to transition a town. As things can go, plans/directions changed. Transition sort of died around here too anyway. Do you know if Jim ever discussed Transition or permaculture and whatnot on his blog, say, 10 years ago or whatever else he might have tried in Greenwich?

          • GreenAlba October 17, 2023 at 11:59 am #

            I tried the video, Zazelle, and gave up after 4 minutes. Didn’t have the patience to wait to figure out what he was warbling on about. The Transition Handbook is very practical, from what I recall, compared to whatever that was.

            My feeling, in the noughties and beyond, was that the Transition movement wasn’t really going anywhere. But the only place I’d hoped it would go was much the same as where peak-oilers generally thought we should go: local food, less travel, less mad consumerism etc., not the insane UN stuff.

          • GreenAlba October 17, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

            I seem to have been writing my last post while you posted yours, Zazelle. I didn’t get as far as him talking about climate change and other buzz words (and why is he dressed like that??! He looks as if he’s going to join a spraying squad in Wuhan).

            I don’t remember JHK specifically mentioning Transition Towns way back, but a rose by any other name an’ all that. It’s a long time ago, so I don’t really remember.

            The first TT was Kinsale, in Ireland, if I recall, before Totnes and Lewes. I think it spread in N. America later.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

            That’s fine about not watching the video and agreed. That could change once people start to get more of a handle on new (political, etc.) realities as they manifest. Perhaps Transition was just very early. As it’s still alive, it may yet see increased attention, especially perhaps given the UN stuff you’ve been discussing.

          • DaveO907 October 17, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

            “…. but I think there’s too much chaos in the world for a self-appointed few to control everything.”

            But, when it is they themselves who initiate and to some great extent, control the chaos by anticipating and directing the reactions to their own manufactured chaos?

            They have unlimited money and all the time in the world to game this stuff out. Our not being able or willing to imagine such power could likely spell our final downfall.

            Just something to think about.

          • Night Owl October 17, 2023 at 3:37 pm #

            Don’t underestimate it, Slug.

            I agree it won’t be easy, particularly in the long rung, but if they get the digital IDs in, life is going to get hard, quick.

          • Night Owl October 17, 2023 at 3:38 pm #


        • Wizard of the Saddle October 17, 2023 at 10:29 am #

          While I have no doubt that the WHO is evil and scheming for such things I do think that enforcement is where the rubber meets the road.

          Let them issue their edicts. Anyone showing up at my house trying to forcibly inject me with their poison will receive their own injection of lead poisoning….and I strongly suspect that millions of others would do the same.

          I seriously doubt that the cops in this country are going to want to accompany the mad jabbers from one household shootout after another. Just answering domestic dispute calls are already deadly enough for cops. They don’t need this added!

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 11:56 am #

            The Canadian Trucker protest here was a shot across the bow of government ever trying that kind of mandatory vax idea again. People get their food via grocery stores via trucks. No trucks, no food.

            Prime Minister Trudeau had to leave his residence to an ‘undisclosed location’ during the protest. It was quite big and loud and might even have been the biggest protest in history, at least in Ottawa.

            We don’t do guns over here, at least as much as USA seems to, but we might not need to.

          • Soul Forensics October 17, 2023 at 5:21 pm #

            “We don’t do guns over here,” — Zaz

            Because we have nowhere near the number and percentage of Blacks here as in the U.S. But don’t kid yourself. Canadians have guns (unregistered) up the yin-yang here, and many will use them if/when the kindly medical personnel arrive on front stoops with their fetching assistants.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 18, 2023 at 1:42 am #

            Soul Forensics, I wonder what the stats are surrounding actual ownership of guns in Canada and of what kinds, as well as per capita so-called ‘black’ crime and what would constitute black, such as if black had some white in it, etc..

            Not too long ago, here in Nova Scotia, if I recall the story correctly, some so-called white guy, dressed up as a cop, perhaps complete with a cop-car-looking car, shot a few people dead, including a cop.

            Anyway, ‘sociology’ is a complex field that seems to require more nuanced concepts than, say, manufactured and/or reductionistic notions of colour or ethnicity or whatever have you.

        • swtNEK October 17, 2023 at 11:24 am #

          Exactly. It was a good video. Made this simple an accessible. Send it to your legilslators, because they don’t really know what is going on here. I have written our one rep here is Vermont… unfortunately she just replies with” sorry we don’t see eye to eye”, which of course is just a total blow off. She is obviously not interested in representing her constituents.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 11:59 am #


          • justanotherguy October 18, 2023 at 12:22 pm #

            let me guess – the amazing brave and stunnnning bekka?

      • tuco22 October 16, 2023 at 1:51 pm #

        You’d better believe it. That’s probably in the playbook.

      • Cankerpuss October 16, 2023 at 2:15 pm #

        Don’t know, Beryl. I’ve been hearing rumblings of nuclear war the entire half century I have graced the surfaces of this planet and, other than the US dropping nukes on Japan, nothing has come to fruition. I’m not entirely convinced that there is any living, breathing human being on this planet who has the conviction to do it. Knowing that if they do it they too will be wiped from the planet by the response.

        There is too much fear of these weapons to use them.

        Let’s face it, they’ve (who ever they are) already have us where they want us. Look what they accomplished by throwing the a newly christened nasty flu virus at us. Nukes? Overkill.

        Just my opinion.

        • Heartlander October 16, 2023 at 5:14 pm #

          Yes, the real wars are fought over people’s MINDS. And, with the forced “vaccines,” inside our individual bodies. Why kill millions of people in a big, showy way Iike nuclear war when you can get them to kill themselves and their offspring by lining up for toxic injections? Or, once the whole world is governed by the W.H.O., by FORCING them to get the slow-kill (or fast-kill) injections?

    • Disaffected October 16, 2023 at 11:07 am #

      Nah! That could never happen!

  3. Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 9:54 am #

    I think it was Mark Steyn who coined the phrase “known wolf”.

  4. BULLITT October 16, 2023 at 9:54 am #

    Hornady Ammo Plant explosion!
    Lots of guns, soon no bullets!

    • Disaffected October 16, 2023 at 10:00 am #

      Have an Uncle who lives in Wood River, right outside Grand island.

    • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 10:08 am #

      Bullets and food.

      That’s okay, it’s not as if anybody has plans to starve us and doesn’t want us able to shoot them if we object.

    • megabeth October 16, 2023 at 11:17 am #

      One word: reloading

      • Daddyotis October 16, 2023 at 3:50 pm #

        Amen, MB! Those primers sure are still expensive tho.

        At this point, if you don’t have at least a year of stored food (and practical knowledge of how to grow your own), a lot of stored ammo, and the means to use it…it’s always a good time to start.

        Never ever EVER give up your guns.

  5. The Man They Call Zazelle October 16, 2023 at 9:59 am #

    “Therefore, Leon Panetta is either a fool, a lying scoundrel, or insane.” ~ JHK


    Putin: “Privet. May I speak with Biden please?”
    Biden: “It’s me. Putin?”
    Putin: “Da.”
    Biden: “Thanks for helping walk us out of Ukraine. We’ll try to wrap our puff show over Israel ASAP.”
    Putin: “RT has Lavrov quote headline today, ‘West is ‘fed up’ with Zelensky’ and in another section on the same front page, ‘Ukraine is not a US ally– ex-Pentagon official’. Good?”
    Biden: “Good.”
    Putin: “No funny stuff.”
    Biden: “No funny stuff.”
    Putin: “Paka.”
    Biden: “Bye.”

    The story, all names, characters, and incidents portrayed in this production are fictitious. No identification with actual persons (living or deceased), places, buildings, and products is intended or should be inferred.” ~ American film and television

    • saltydog October 16, 2023 at 10:17 am #

      The last quote belongs on the masthead of the Washington Post.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 16, 2023 at 11:19 am #

        The First Casualty of War

        Who Do They Think They’re Kidding?” ~ JHK article header

        If the State is a war on people– and it is– then if the truth is the first casualty of war, perhaps it can be said that Leon Panetta et al. was just demonstrating integrity, that, in a sense, he was just being honest.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 16, 2023 at 11:21 am #

          …and that JHK just didn’t get the memo.

  6. 100th Avatar October 16, 2023 at 10:05 am #

    Christopher Wray
    Another stellar member of the Trump administration.

    American blue-blood
    Phillips Exeter
    Immense wealth from both Mother’s and Daddy’s sides.

    He does not have to be a bureaucrat, a civil servant, but such is the noblesse oblige of his kind. The deep-rooted authentic American.

    It was theirs to build, theirs to exploit, and it is theirs to destroy.

    We are just onlookers.
    Never consecrated in their project.

  7. neurodoc October 16, 2023 at 10:07 am #

    ‘I guess we’ll just have to stand by and see what happens.’

    In order to see what happens, one only has to look at Sweden. Mass rapings of young and middle aged women by african savages, machete wielding maniacs in the streets, destruction of the health care system, destruction of the economy, need I say more. Welcome to 3rd world amerika. Buy a gun, if you still don’t have one, and learn how to safely USE IT!

    • thirdcoastlegend October 16, 2023 at 10:16 am #


      Don’t forget the grenade attacks!

    • BackRowHeckler October 16, 2023 at 11:34 am #

      Yes, and gun battles involving automatic weapons in open street battles, Congolese vs. Arab gangsters. You see video of native Swedes diving for cover on the streets of their own Capitol City as bullets fly. Yet, it’s hard to feel sympathy, this is what they wanted, this is what they vote for, this is what they got. Well, at least Sven & Olga can pat themselves on the back for their compassion, their tolerance, and the commendable act reducing their ‘Carbon Footprint.”

      And in London last weekend, a mass of Arabs at pro Palestinian rallies in the streets as far as the eye could see. Have all Arabs & African Muslims on earth emigrated to London? Are there any English people remaining in London? I didn’t see any in the teeming crowds except for a few hipsters with green hair & nose rings.

    • Jarek October 16, 2023 at 1:04 pm #

      America was created by Whites for Whites. That’s it. Anyone who thinks otherwise, doesn’t know the Mind of the Fathers – and doesn’t have it either. So if they don’t know it and don’t have it, how can they maintain what They built? They can’t and they don’t wan to either.

      • pyrrhus October 16, 2023 at 1:27 pm #

        Indeed, one of the first Acts of Congress was to limit immigration to “White men of good character”…

      • Cankerpuss October 16, 2023 at 2:20 pm #

        One step further, Jarek. America was created for white men, particularly, white men who owned property.

        Let’s face it, much of what ails us began when women began pulling the voting levers at the ballot box. Not all, but much.

        Yeah, I said it. The founders believed only white, land owning, tax paying citizens should have the right to vote. Why? Because otherwise the population figures out that they can vote themselves lavish benefits and when that happens, amen to Democracy.

        • tuco22 October 16, 2023 at 2:36 pm #

          Yes, the vote originally was restricted to white male property owners. And as a woman, I have to agree with you, cankerpuss, about giving women the vote. Everything seemed to go downhill from there. Now the vote has been so corrupted that it’s meaningless.

          • Cankerpuss October 16, 2023 at 4:02 pm #

            I will add that not all women vote like fools. There are many intelligent women who look beyond a candidates looks and appearances but, unfortunately, most women vote based upon their emotions, not upon reason and facts.

          • Anthea October 16, 2023 at 10:13 pm #

            I suspect that voting has always been pretty much meaningless. Seems to me that the PTB have always and for all practical purposes made the decisions. Often it was prudent to institute large-scale propaganda campaigns before the fact, to make it APPEAR that these decisions had the mandate of the people. And, nowadays, elections are openly rigged. Most of the larger ones have probably always been rigged.

            Speaking as a woman, myself, I have never seen much sense in voting–though there have been maybe three elections in which I’ve voted during my lifetime.

            I do think–if you take voting seriously–that not everyone should be able to vote. I.e., I think prosperctive voters should be tested for literacy, numeracy, and the Constitution. I don’t think land ownership should be a requirement. (Few people in this country even own their homes: the bank owns them, if they have a mortgage.) Also, no one who derives any portion of their income, whether through welfare, government employment, holding a government office, government subsidy or monopoly (or employment by any entity receiving government subsidies or benefiting from a government-conferred monopoly), government pensions, government contracts, etc., should be allowed to vote. Thus, you can see right away that over half of working adults would be disqualified from voting. For example, no one employed in health care, pharmaceuticals, or health-insurance would be able to vote. Nor would school teachers or anyone else employed by the public school system, K-PhD. Nor would law-enforcement personnel. I think that should fix the problem, assuming voting has any weight.

          • Ron Anselmo October 16, 2023 at 10:40 pm #

            “(Few people in this country even own their homes: the bank owns them, if they have a mortgage.)” ~ Anthea

            Correction: No one owns their property or home, even if they are “free & clear” from debt instruments. They still pay property taxes – rent to the State.

          • GreenAlba October 17, 2023 at 6:39 am #

            Ron: And that is how they will expropriate people, once CBDCs and digital ID come in. If you don’t have the social credit points, you won’t get the currency and you won’t be able to pay your bills, in a cashless society. You may be able to grow or buy food, somehow or other, but you won’t even get online access to pay your taxes.

            They will also declare your home uninhabitable it it can’t be made to meet new eco/energy standards.


            “[The Great Taking] is about the taking of collateral (all of it), the end game of the current globally synchronous debt accumulation super cycle. This scheme is being executed by long-planned, intelligent design, the audacity and scope of which is difficult for the mind to encompass. Included are all financial assets and bank deposits, all stocks and bonds; and hence, all underlying property of all public corporations, including all inventories, plant and equipment; land, mineral deposits, inventions and intellectual property. Privately owned personal and real property financed with any amount of debt will likewise be taken, as will the assets of privately owned businesses which have been financed with debt. If even partially successful, this will be the greatest conquest and subjugation in world history.”

          • Paula D October 17, 2023 at 11:53 am #

            They already do a version of that here, Green Alba, with septic tanks.

            They tell some dirt poor person living out in the sticks that their septic tank is not “up to code”, and requires an expensive upgrade.

            Can’t afford it? Too bad.

          • GreenAlba October 17, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

            Paula – yes, that’s one of the ways they’re doing it. The SNP leader recently put it out there that they were considering making it illegal to sell a home with a gas boiler. They saw the pushback and have put it on a back burner for now, but I have no doubt it will come back for real in due course (probably when we’re being distracted by the latest emergency).

            I wrote to my useless (i.e. seemingly complicit) MP about the Energy Bill they’ve just rushed through. I pointed out that half of Edinburgh households live in Victorian or Georgian flats and asked how we were supposed to install heat pumps. He said he lives in a similar property and the only way you could install them was if the entire block agreed to do it together (and even then I don’t think it’s technically feasible). So I didn’t get anywhere. He can afford to move, of course, if he sells up quickly before the SNP makes it impossible to sell a gas-heated house. The SNP are due for a trouncing at the next election, but it won’t make any difference. Labour will probably benefit most and they’re going to be worse than anything we’ve seen yet, as far as I can see, with Keir ‘Stalin’, the WEF stooge, at the helm in the UK. There’s a view that he’s being managed by Tony Blair, the way you guys talk about Biden being managed by Obama.

          • Ron Anselmo October 18, 2023 at 1:06 am #

            GA – thanks. On The Great Taking, the paragraph you posted is the most comprehensive, I think – in a nutshell – on David Roger Webb’s thesis.

            I’m finishing up a first reread, to help some of the information crystallize. I’ve thought for a few years now that the drive is to CBDC – Central Bank Digital Currencies – on a global basis, as a final means of ultimate control. It couldn’t be done piecemeal – a country at a time – as global trade wouldn’t mesh.

            I couldn’t figure out how CBDC could be introduced globally. The incrementally changed legal path the author lays out – with “securitization” of all assets – makes the taking of all assets – even hard assets, possible.

            I don’t think most people understand the implications of CBDC, they think only in terms of electronic or cashless transactions. They think, I have direct deposit, use credit cards and use cash apps, so what if we go cashless? CBDC is a different animal – an inescapable control mechanism.

            The Canadian Trucker movement in Canada, protesting Covid vaccine mandates was a perfect example. First all their assets were frozen. People that supported the truckers – bringing food, fuel and firewood to keep warm, had their assets frozen. Finally, a GoFundMe account in support of the truckers was taken by the Canadian government.

            That’s the control mechanism – misbehave and go hungry. Another is expiry “credits” that must be spent when the economy needs juiced & account modifications based on Chinese-style “social credit scores”, as you suggest. You and I based upon our thinking would probably be near zero.

            I think all that remains is a problem-reaction-solution scenario, i.e., create the problem, get the desired reaction and propose the solution – to roll out CBDC in the form of a coordinated global economic response, exactly like we saw with Covid – all countries working in lockstep.

            Ordo ab chao. A global economic collapse as fallout from the current situation in the ME? Maybe. CBDC sold as the savior? Maybe.

            In addition to Paula’s comment on septic tanks, and yours on gas boilers, US Coastal regions are currently being surveyed by the US Army Corp of Engineers, to designate “blue-lined” areas.

            These are areas that will be mapped as flood prone due to rising sea levels, and lenders will not lend there nor insurers insure there. Property values will go to near zero overnight.

            Publicly owned businesses will be taken, because their stock & bonds are already securitized. Very few privately owned businesses operate on retained earnings. Credit lines offer liquidity, purchase inventory and so on, so they’ll be taken as well.

            Mom & Pop’s aren’t really businesses, they’ll go by the wayside as the owners do personally. Have a friend who has a private business – maybe $100 million annual gross revenue – that is debt free and operates solely on retained earnings. Very rare.

            He’s famous for saying, even though everyone wants to own their own business, that Mom & Pop’s aren’t really businesses, they are just people with jobs who write their own checks. True that.

          • GreenAlba October 18, 2023 at 6:45 am #

            Ron – all true, I think.

            Re CBDCs, though, I think the only thing that needs to be co-ordinated globally, in the long run, is the move to sole use of CBDCs for currency. Some countries have already seen them introduced alongside cash and other currency. Others are somewhere in the ‘planning’ or ‘research’ stage. If you check out the website ‘Atlantic Council CBDC tracker’ there is an interactive map showing where all countries in the world are in the pursuit of CBDC rollout. The last time I looked, two insignificant countries had ‘cancelled’ – one can only assume that will cause them difficulties trade-wise (and perhaps worse) once it’s rolled out as sole currency in most other places.

            On your point about ‘blue-lined’ areas, if you haven’t read it, you might be interested in Rosa Koire’s book that I mentioned a few posts up. I can’t remember her exact job, but she was possibly involved in working for people and businesses caught up in re-zoning initiatives and that was how she discovered what was going on at the local level. A local authority could re-zone the area where your home is and take it from you, or declare an area ‘blighted’ for any reason at all.

          • GreenAlba October 18, 2023 at 6:46 am #

            RK’s book is very short – about 170 pages.

          • Jarek October 18, 2023 at 12:50 pm #

            The Laws of Nature are very strict. Do you think the Laws of Man can be any less so?

            You gotta give back. One way or another.

          • Ron Anselmo October 19, 2023 at 7:23 pm #

            GA – thanks for the references, greatly appreciated. Regarding “local level”, you’re correct, we need to be acutely aware of the local goings on.

            In an effort to help keep that opaque, most US small town local papers have been rolled up by the big media companies, and almost all content is national or state level, purposely obscuring or shading any local level initiatives.

            IOW, keeping us in the dark to local agendas. There are no more investigative journalists or reporters anywhere, much less locally. Well, ones that get any press.

        • WadeWaters October 16, 2023 at 6:32 pm #

          And back then you could own property free and clear. No property taxes. No income taxes.

          • Anthea October 16, 2023 at 10:19 pm #

            @ WadeWaters:

            The property tax should be abolished for ones primary residence, along with any attached acreage up to a certain maximum. I think that secondary residences and acreages that are not attached to ones primary residence should be taxed. The reason I say this is because, taxing discourages people from buying up and holding large amounts of land, thus tending to create high land prices and land monopolies. (Same with housing.) This is an old Henry George tenet.

            Also, the public school system shoud be closed down entirely, as this is where most of your property taxes go. As for the rest of the stuff on your tax bill, they can find some other way to fund it.

          • Jarek October 18, 2023 at 12:52 pm #

            And you paid one tenth of your income to your church in addition to taking care of your own sick and crazy.

            No? Then you were an Outlaw, a criminal.

            You gotta give back, one way or another. If you won’t, then the State has to step in. See how it works?

        • jackrabbit October 16, 2023 at 9:29 pm #

          Wow canker sore, a real scholarly argument you’ve got there….dear gawd.

        • Wizard of the Saddle October 17, 2023 at 10:38 am #

          Precisely the problem.

          I concluded some time ago that the relentless expansion of the voting franchise hit critical mass insofar as laying the seeds of this country’s destruction the moment they gave women the right.

          HUGE mistake.

          Almost none of our current problems in America would exist if the 19th Amendment had never been adopted.

          MEN build civilizations. WOMEN tear them down.

          I am strongly in favor of repealing the 19th Amendment as well as the 26th that lowered the voting age.

      • tuco22 October 16, 2023 at 2:34 pm #

        I don’t know if this is related or not, but every time someone brings up the 1619 project and says slavery existed in the US for 400 years, I point out that the United States was “founded” in 1776, for all intents and purposes. It’s not 400 years old. But that usually doesn’t get any traction.

        • Paula D October 16, 2023 at 2:41 pm #

          Bring this up, while you’re at it.

          The first slave in the US was owned by an African American, who refused to let him out of his indentured servitude contract.


          • Paula D October 16, 2023 at 2:42 pm #

            Unintended consequences to greed.

            ”“About seven years later, Virginia made this practice legal for everyone, in 1661, by making it state law for any free white, black or Indian to be able to own slaves, along with indentured servants,” Kyl writes. The step from there to a racialized idea of slavery wasn’t a huge one, she writes, and by the time Johnson died in 1670, his race was used to justify giving his plantation to a white man rather than Johnson’s children by his wife, Mary. He was “not a citizen of the colony,” a judge ruled, because he was black.”

          • Paula D October 16, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

            I guess you’d have to say “colony” instead of US, since your point is that there was no US at the time.

            But the fact that it was a black man who made it possible to own slaves in the colony of Virginia, future USA, stands.

          • tuco22 October 16, 2023 at 3:00 pm #

            An inconvenient truth. Ta-Nehsi (sp?) Coates could probably appreciate that, though.

          • BackRowHeckler October 16, 2023 at 4:30 pm #

            Tah-nesi Coates, real name something like Frank Ferguson. Coates was his wife’s name, and Tah-nesi he just made up because it sounded African.

            The guy is a professional jogger & a fraud. He’s cashed in pretty big & the George Floyd movement really gave his brand a boost. But how long can you keep the racial grift going? People get tired of it.

      • Wizard of the Saddle October 17, 2023 at 10:33 am #

        You are correct. Reminding folks of this today gets you cancelled, but truth ground to earth remains truth nonetheless.

        Facts are stubborn things.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 11:00 am #

          My intuition said, ‘So fucking what.’ as I sipped my tea reading it.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 11:02 am #

        America was created by Whites for Whites. That’s it. Anyone who thinks otherwise, doesn’t know the Mind of the Fathers – and doesn’t have it either. So if they don’t know it and don’t have it, how can they maintain what They built? They can’t and they don’t wan to either.” ~ Jarek

        So fucking what.

        • Jarek October 17, 2023 at 1:11 pm #

          You don’t care because you’re not an American or a real Canadian since Canada was founded by and for Whites as well.

          But other people here do value what our ancestors bequeathed to us, so it is to them I speak.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 18, 2023 at 1:54 am #

            You don’t appear to care much, if at all, about your so-called whites (or ‘blacks’, or women, or sex, etc.) which reminds me of the saying, ‘With friends like you, who needs enemies?‘.

            I think your pigeonholed ‘white’ people and most anyone else with half a heart/head will be better off without you and the likes of you.

          • justanotherguy October 18, 2023 at 12:51 pm #

            za – looks to me like your problem is the cuck in the mirror

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 19, 2023 at 7:31 am #

            Cuck might be a favorite lob for an incel.

  8. Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 10:07 am #

    But who is really behind this?

    “”My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders, sometime in the future with energy that’s as green and sustainable as we can get it, powering growth and opportunity for every person in the hemisphere,” Clinton reportedly said to investors in a paid speech she gave to Brazilian Banco Itau in 2013.”


    All of a sudden we are hearing a lot of talk of borders over in the ME.

    As in, countries have to open their borders so the Palestinians can get out.

    It is being claimed that Hamas is saying that the Palis must stay where they are.

    I think that probably isn’t true, but what I do know is that the leaders of Hamas are over in Qatar living the good life.

    Look what Hillary did to Muammar Gaddafi when he stood in the way of her dreams for Europe.

    She and her hubby reinvigorated the Clinton Global Initiative and were just over in Ukraine celebrating the achievement of one of her goals, the elimination of so many patriotic young Ukrainian men who were willing to fight over….borders.

    • BackRowHeckler October 16, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

      Does Egypt want any Palestinians. I’m reading Egypt treats the Palestinians like sh#t.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 12:58 pm #

        I read that they fear terrorists getting through if they loosen up the border restrictions.

      • beantownbill. October 16, 2023 at 1:08 pm #

        Marlin, I know people who have family in Israel, and that’s what they tell me.

        I also have a Jewish, pro-Israel friend who’s big shtick is to learn everything he can about the area. He says that the Palestinians are an intelligent people with many professionals around the world. If so, maybe what’s happening is caused by the dregs of that society.

      • pyrrhus October 16, 2023 at 1:30 pm #

        Egypt doesn’t want Palestinians because some of them are Islamic radicals, and it has gone to a lot of trouble to eliminate them from the country…Of course, they would also be dependents, and a drain on resources…

      • Cankerpuss October 16, 2023 at 2:22 pm #

        It is my understanding that Egypt has closed its border crossing to Palestinians. It is also my understanding that there aren’t any other arab countries who have invited Palestinians to their country. Saudi Arabia? Nope. Jordan? Nope. UAB? Nope.

        They all know the trouble that these mutts bring and don’t want anything to do with them.

        Hell, is Iran even taking any of them? Anybody know?

        • Paula D October 16, 2023 at 2:58 pm #

          Why would Shiite Persians take in violent Sunni Arabs?

          • Cankerpuss October 16, 2023 at 4:09 pm #

            That’s my point. Other Arab nations get it. So, it behooves Israel to handle the issue themselves. It’s none of our business how Israel deals with this mess.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 2:27 am #

          That’s in part how it starts, the demonization of a set of people. Upthread, beantownbill suggests ‘dregs’, and then here, Cankerpuss (gotta luv the nickname) seems to amp it up a notch or two.

          What kind of a gov’t does KSA have, incidentally?

        • GreenAlba October 17, 2023 at 6:51 am #

          I think Syria has Palestinian refugees. We were there in 2007 and there were both Palestinian and Iraqi refugee camps (built shanty towns, not tents) outside Damascus.

          Tourist guides were obviously government vetted. When we went through Homs, the guy mentioned a Muslim Brotherhood uprising there that was violently put down (not his exact words, but he said what had ‘had to be done’ to control the situation).

          • Paula D October 17, 2023 at 12:05 pm #

            Yes, Syria has Palestinian refugees. And in return for their hospitality, many supported the “moderate rebels”, such as ISIS, in their attacks on the people of Syria.

            “In 2011, there was a near-total rupture in the relationship, caused by Hamas’ refusal to
            support the Assad regime in Syria, an adherent of the Islamic Republic’s radical policy.
            Moreover, Assad’s Alawi sect is a loosely affiliated offshoot of Shia Islam, the
            dominant strain of Islamic belief in Iran. Hamas, a Sunni organization, actively
            supported the Sunni jihadis fighting Assad. ”


      • Paula D October 16, 2023 at 2:57 pm #

        The Muslim Brotherhood is not looked upon with favor by the current Egyptian government, which overthrew a Muslim Brotherhood member president, Morsi, and put in al-Sisi.

        They don’t want to let in a bunch of Hamas supporters.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 11:04 am #

          If there were no bullshit States and their bullshit borders, the ‘let in’ thing would be kind of moot, the human and animal flows more natural.

          • justanotherguy October 18, 2023 at 12:52 pm #

            may you have the blessing of being among those living with the consequences of that sentiment.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 19, 2023 at 7:46 am #

            Apparently, in some, perhaps many, cases, it’s preferable to slowly ease the parasites off/out, so the consequences aren’t so severe.

            But if the fuckup known as the State doesn’t change along more ethical, anarchistic (mutually consensual, etc.) lines, collapse it will– ‘blessings’ notwithstanding.

            Relationship breakups aren’t always easy, especially if one is especially codependent. LOL

    • Jarek October 16, 2023 at 1:06 pm #

      Islander and Paula care more about Russia’s borders than ours. Internationalists or ideological “ex-pats” living outside the nation of their heart?

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 2:31 am #

        A State could always build a wall (or finish it) as an act of propaganda, as if to say, ‘Hey, we built a wall for you and now far less immigrants– you know, the ones whose countries we helped make a mess out of?– will be coming in.’.

        • justanotherguy October 18, 2023 at 12:53 pm #

          who is this “we” of whom you speak?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 19, 2023 at 7:34 am #

            That’s part of the propaganda.

  9. cowbell81 October 16, 2023 at 10:07 am #

    I just wanted to wish our host a very Happy Birthday week! You are 3/4 of the way to Kissinger status my friend! Make it a good one later this week!

    • jackrabbit October 16, 2023 at 10:13 am #

      kissinger status? you mean war criminal?

      • Disaffected October 16, 2023 at 10:27 am #

        LOL! Funny retort.

      • megabeth October 16, 2023 at 11:21 am #

        Possibly he is ¾ of the way to dating Jill St. John.

  10. Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 10:12 am #

    Anybody else surprised by the news that Bobby Jr.’s campaign manager up and quit the other day?

    • Disaffected October 16, 2023 at 10:28 am #

      LOL! I threw surprised overboard years ago! Wasn’t using it anyway.

    • hmuller October 16, 2023 at 10:35 am #

      I don’t believe Kennedy’s third party run will top 10 percent of the vote (assuming the opposition is Trump and some woke Demonrat). What do you predict?

      • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 10:50 am #

        I mentioned the other day that the conventional wisdom among politicos is that third party candidates don’t win, they are a protest vote.

        It looks like Mr. Kucinich subscribes to that theory as well.

        President Trump has maybe 75 million people who are never going to desert him. The commies taking over the Democrats aren’t going to go for Bobby, neither are the people inclined to vote Democrat for free stuff.

        So, what percent of people does that leave?

        Ten percent is as good a guess as any. Under normal circumstances.

        EXCEPT…. guess who he has running his campaign now?

        You know that brave daughter-in-law of his, the one who worked for the CIA?

        • SW October 16, 2023 at 11:07 am #

          Dennis Kucinich has been critical of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict for years so my guess is, Kucinich wouldn’t agree with Kennedy to get the votes so he had to go. Kennedy has a long year ahead of him before the election.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 11:35 am #

            Yes he does.

            We should have paid more attention when he told us Sisyphus was happy pushing that boulder up a hill.

        • RD3 October 16, 2023 at 11:15 am #

          Yes. I’m not sure where he is going to get his votes. What is his demographic? Elderly white people who remember his father and uncle? His only family seems to have moved sufficiently to the Left that they won’t even support him.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 11:39 am #

            I think his own family is jealous that he is the owner of the Kennedy legacy or something like that.

          • SW October 16, 2023 at 12:04 pm #

            With this conflict bringing the Israeli war front and center, no one seems to be allowed to have a nuanced view of the conflict or any constructive ideas how to restore peace, much less what a just compromise would look like. Kennedy lives in California and his wife is a big TV star there. My guess is within the next couple of weeks he’ll come down solidly in Israel’s camp if he hasn’t already.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 12:28 pm #

            Good guess, SW. He already has come down solidly in Israel’s camp.

            I would have expected the usual condemnation of the violence and calls against escalation, or even an “I stand with Israel” approach.

            But no, he thinks the US should supply military support.

          • hmuller October 16, 2023 at 1:06 pm #

            A Palestinian killed his father. Or so it appears. That might reduce his sympathy for their cause.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 1:59 pm #

            Jr. isn’t sure Sirhan did it, or at least didn’t do it of his own volition.

            He wrote a letter in support of Sirhan’s parole.

          • Paula D October 16, 2023 at 3:01 pm #

            Sirhan couldn’t have done it.

            The kill shot came from behind, very close to RFK’s head.

            Sirhan was in front, shooting wildly, and never got close to RFK.

            The coroner’s report makes it obvious that the Official Story is complete bullshit, and yet, the Official Story dominates to this day.

            That shows the power of the media.

      • BackRowHeckler October 16, 2023 at 11:37 am #

        Don’t forget RFK, jr. father was murdered by a Palestinian.

        • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 11:43 am #

          But not a Muslim.

        • AmericanObserver October 16, 2023 at 12:03 pm #

          Described today as “a San Francisco man”.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 12:29 pm #

            Thank you.

          • malthuss October 16, 2023 at 4:05 pm #

            code for gay?

            buzz is he sirhan was mind controlled by manly hall, his hypnotherapist.

        • WadeWaters October 16, 2023 at 1:37 pm #

          Did Sirhan Sirhan really pull the trigger?

          Sure, just like Oswald did JFK.

        • Bilejones October 16, 2023 at 5:06 pm #

          And you are stupid enough to believe that.

    • Alfred October 16, 2023 at 10:39 am #


      The Team Kennedy announcement was gracious to Kucinich. Seems like an excellent grass roots start needs to accelerate into the fast lane.

      Kennedy beats Biden, any sane democrat has to see that. The insane democrats threw the baby out with the bath water.

      • hmuller October 16, 2023 at 10:45 am #

        I’m thinking maybe the Demonrats aren’t worried about the 2024 election because they know it won’t happen. They’ll splinter and destroy the nation before then. Why? You tell me.

        I’ll just say someone doesn’t easily defy a group that holds blackmail videos et al and knows where all the bodies are buried.

        • tuco22 October 16, 2023 at 2:30 pm #

          I think they’re not worried about it because they know Joe’s gonna get a second term to “finish the job.” I can’t explain it, but at least a third of the country still thinks he’s doing a “good” job. And there are a lot of “rights” out there that stand to be “cancelled” if the evil Trump gets in, so that’ll make them fight to the last democrat.

        • Paula D October 16, 2023 at 3:06 pm #

          They aren’t worried because they control the ballot boxes, or their electronic equivalents.

          They stole the last one, they can steal the next one.

          That said, we don’t know who the Blob wants to put into the White House next time.

          Could be a Republican, just to confuse people and make them think that they made a difference.

          That’s what they did with Obama, after 8 years of Cheney’s destruction of American institutions.

          Remember that Obama promised to repeal the Patriot Act, bring back transparency in government, and stop “stupid wars”.

          Hope and Change!

          • jackrabbit October 16, 2023 at 9:31 pm #

            Still pushing ‘tHe ElEcTiOn WaS sToLeN’ nonsense eh Paula? Give it up…it wasn’t.

          • Paula D October 17, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

            If there is anything I find unconvincing, it’s some asshole robotically repeating nonsense, week after week.

          • Ron Anselmo October 17, 2023 at 1:52 pm #

            JR – when Paula says 2 + 2 = 4, how does that make you feel?

    • TallTim October 16, 2023 at 11:30 am #

      Probably not happy how eager “Bobby” is to take it up the back side for ZOG.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 2:34 am #

        Taking it up the back side isn’t for everyone.

    • Islander October 16, 2023 at 11:30 am #

      Dennis Kucinich.

      I had forgotten that he was RFK’s campaign manager.

      The timing suggests that he declined to go along with RFK’s Israel First speechifying.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 11:46 am #

        It does.

        Some are saying it’s because Kucinich doesn’t want to work for someone who is only in the race as a spoiler.

        That one doesn’t make sense to me.

      • Night Owl October 16, 2023 at 2:40 pm #

        Kucinich is the real deal. I wish he’d run again. He wouldn’t win, but I could at least vote for someone with a clean conscience.

    • Jarek October 16, 2023 at 1:08 pm #

      After Booby just alienated more than half of his base by signing onto with the War Party (Uni-Party)?


  11. SteveK9 October 16, 2023 at 10:15 am #

    Maybe it is occurring to Jewish leadership in America (Mayorkas for example) that attacking traditional white Americans in favor of the ‘oppressed’ from around the World, might not be a great idea after all.

    • jackrabbit October 16, 2023 at 10:18 am #


      • justanotherguy October 16, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

        echo in here?

  12. malthuss October 16, 2023 at 10:15 am #

    Dis United States

    I learned of a new law here in USA, Caste prejudice being illegal in some areas.

    What this means is there are so many messed up Indians here hating other indians [with low caste names I guess].

    • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 10:38 am #

      It seems like no matter where you go, you find prejudice from one group against another, even in places where to outsiders they all seem to be the same people.

      I had heard and read, over the years, of Italy being very much that way, so I asked a woman who had just been there a few years ago, and who had been married to an Italian man, about it.

      She confirmed that it was very much the case.

      • Yirgach October 16, 2023 at 12:05 pm #

        Italy is divided by the cold hardworking North as opposed to the indolent sun drenched South. More than a few Northeners moved South and have successfully deployed their innate entrepreneurial skills against the unsuspecting Southeners.
        For example, there are stark cultural differences between MIlan and Naples. Sicily even more so. Sardegna, well it IS a part of Italy in name only.

        • BackRowHeckler October 16, 2023 at 12:48 pm #

          Most of the Mafiosa comes from Sicily, with a few Neapolitans added in. Big Paul Castallano, head of the Gambino family, limited his ‘Made Men’ to Sicilians only. Italians other than Sicilians could be soldiers & associates but that’s all.

          • Ron Anselmo October 16, 2023 at 1:47 pm #

            Getting closer BRH – Castellano. Again, not trying to be a prick, but the Sicilian in me can’t let it go – gabbadost.

          • BackRowHeckler October 16, 2023 at 3:17 pm #

            Ron at least I spelled Gambino right.

          • Ron Anselmo October 17, 2023 at 2:33 am #

            Molto bene!

        • Jarek October 16, 2023 at 1:18 pm #

          And? Keep going. Tell them of the racial differences between North and South. Different temperments, as between the different breeds of dogs. Innate differences that should have precluded these groups from ever being in the same polity – unless the Southerners want to be ruled by Northerners.

          Put Whites in with Chinese and the Chinese will end up ruling them. Their work ethic is more fanatical than even the Protestant work ethic of old. Ready for the big question?

          Why would we want to be ruled by them? If the only way to stop that would become like them – then the answer is to not let allow them access to our nations.

          See how simple it is when one is clear in ones premises?

          • WadeWaters October 16, 2023 at 1:48 pm #

            And yet how vigorously it has to shouted down as politically incorrect by those who rule over us.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 2:02 pm #

            There’s a growing frivolous spoiled brat class in China.

          • Jarek October 16, 2023 at 2:07 pm #

            Berry desperately attempts to change the subject.

            Don’t let her.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 2:29 pm #

            That IS the subject, Jarek.

            Frivolous spoiled brats aren’t going to rule whites.

            THIS is changing the subject- did I mention that McDonald’s is featuring its pumpkin and creme pie?

          • elysianfield October 16, 2023 at 3:08 pm #

            A noted sociologist, in a short video, explains the origins of the Sicilians….


          • Paula D October 16, 2023 at 3:08 pm #

            Ha, ha, Beryl, nice one. Bet that’ll get him going.

          • aelpha October 17, 2023 at 9:10 am #

            EF- I wonder if the noted sociologist was making baba ganouj, moussaka or parmigina for supper that evening.

      • Bilejones October 16, 2023 at 5:20 pm #

        The word prejudice is itself a lie. it is almost always post judgement based on prior hundreds if not thousands or years experience.

    • Islander October 16, 2023 at 11:36 am #

      This is not so surprising, really, although I had not thought about it in connection with the huge numbers of people from the Subcontinent now living in the USA.

      And, we have read that the gangs who are killing each other in, say, Ecuador, are doing the same thing here. Or Mexican cartel members.

      We have “invited” this mayhem into our communities that were fairly peaceful in the good old days that I, for one, clearly recall.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 11:49 am #

        The ‘migrants’ from Africa and from Latin America are forming gangs and fighting with each other in the NYC shelters.

        They don’t have to be terrorists to serve their purpose here, to disrupt society and instill fear in the populace.

      • Jarek October 16, 2023 at 1:19 pm #

        When did you realize this, namely that mass immigration from the Third World was an utter disaster?

        I’ve always known it. You?

        • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 2:03 pm #

          What makes you think I have ever supported mass immigration, period?

        • Jarek October 16, 2023 at 2:13 pm #

          I was talking to Islander. But yes, it’s hard to tell.

          So Beryl, since you dispute the moral legitimacy of the historical White nation called The United States of America, since it is located on land taken from the Indians by violence or the threat thereof, why wouldn’t you be in favor of mass immigration?

          As many American Indians activists say anent the Mestizo invaders, “Our brothers and sisters are taking it back.” Whether they are right about that turning out well for them is another question. But yes they’re right: many of the Mexican and Central American illegals aliens have much Indian in their genotype.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 2:31 pm #

            When did I do that, Jarek?

          • Jarek October 16, 2023 at 6:15 pm #

            A few weeks ago – as you well know. You’re going to lie about what you believe now – just like Paula does?

            As Cicero said, the enemy within is the worst. Our women are no more loyal than the minorities are.

      • tuco22 October 16, 2023 at 2:22 pm #

        The more mayhem they can cause, the more laws they can pass to address it that further curtail freedoms and basic rights. I can’t think of any legislation, either on the state or federal level, lately that actually benefits people as a whole without either taking something from one group by fiat and giving it to another group, or enacting yet another tax of some sort.

      • malthuss October 16, 2023 at 4:07 pm #

        Somalis shaking down Blacks in Minnesota for instance.

    • tuco22 October 16, 2023 at 2:24 pm #

      The new caste system in the US is blacks and whites, with whites being groomed to take their place as permanent second-class citizens. With the blessings of their elected representatives.

  13. jackrabbit October 16, 2023 at 10:17 am #

    Huh….no mention of a ‘party of chaos’ this time. Perhaps JHK has suddenly realized that the Repubs are the agents of mayhem as they have no real interest in being an effective governing party. Nah, who am I kidding?

    Jack — I guess you can’t read. Last pargraph: “We’ll learn whether a meaningful opposition against the Party of Chaos can organize around a new House speaker.” — JHK Admin

    • RD3 October 16, 2023 at 11:12 am #

      Spray tan and special sauce.

      • megabeth October 16, 2023 at 11:25 am #

        Trump said she was a total disaster and not his type.

        • 100th Avatar October 16, 2023 at 1:45 pm #

          He also said she’s “yuuuuuge”

          • Ron Anselmo October 16, 2023 at 1:55 pm #

            Big enough to take on the Trumpster behind the dumpster.

    • JohnAZ October 16, 2023 at 11:27 am #

      More important, JHK, the motive for the MAGA Right group, their target is the Woke idjits like jackrabbit who are favoring the overthrow of the Constitution in favor of a USSA redo of the Soviets. The MAGA folks have to overcome the Deep State “establishment RINOS who kow towed to the Deep State years ago creating the Uniparty.

      Like Israel, we are in an internal battle, the solution of which is unknown.

      • Amman October 17, 2023 at 11:59 am #

        WOKE is a sort of a MAGA. As in Make America go away.

    • jackrabbit October 16, 2023 at 12:36 pm #

      Yep and you still got it wrong.

    • jackrabbit October 16, 2023 at 9:34 pm #

      Yep, admin and you still got it wong.

  14. tom clark October 16, 2023 at 10:20 am #

    Yes, happy 75th, Mr. K…it’s a downhill ride from here!

    • Disaffected October 16, 2023 at 10:30 am #

      Oh buck up, lo’ t! You and Pete are still the odds-on favorites for 2024. Depends says they’re all in on your campaign.

  15. DaveO907 October 16, 2023 at 10:21 am #

    “Here in the U.S., we cannot and do not discount the possibility that Hamas or other foreign terrorist organizations could exploit the conflict to call on their supporters to conduct attacks on our own soil.”

    And just to prove it, they’ve no doubt surreptitiously provided the means for a (any) number of mutt perps to false flag some kind of ‘atrocity’ to further scare the bejesus out of their already lame-brained charges—the average target audience that remains yet glued to their every word and admonition that “Your safety is of our paramount importance.”

    Out on the myriad of North American moors, the bone-chilling howl of the “lone gunman”—that peculiar American phenomenon and now institution—invades the silence, then listens for the answering calls that further emanate from the citizenry’s inflamed imaginations.

    The onion layers, the Matryoshka dolls, the ceaseless attempts to keep our brains boxed-in.
    I weary.

    • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 11:03 am #

      I don’t discount the possibility that if they don’t call on supporters to conduct attacks here, the FBI will do it for them.

      Job security.

      A judge called an FBI operative a ‘villain.’ Ruling comes too late for 2 convicted in terror sting

      “ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — In a scathing ruling last month, a judge said the FBI had used a ”villain” of an informant to manipulate a group of Muslim men into going along with a fictitious plot to destroy military planes and synagogues in New York City’s suburbs. She ordered three released from prison, saying “the real lead conspirator was the United States.”

      Now, a man convicted in another sting carried out by the same FBI operative says he hopes the ruling will prompt U.S. prosecutors to review the fairness of similar counterterrorism operations carried out in the wake of the 9/11 terror attacks.

      “Hopefully this will be the first step for the Justice Department to review all those cases of conspiracy and entrapment,” said Yassin Aref, a former imam who spent 14 years in federal custody in a case involving a business loan made to an Albany pizza shop owner and a made-up story about a Stinger missile.”


      • Disaffected October 16, 2023 at 11:09 am #

        Careful you two! You’re veering off into dangerous territory.

        • DaveO907 October 16, 2023 at 12:38 pm #

          “Don’t take it personally, it’s just business.”

          (Putting warranted words in Christopher Wray’s mouf to match his now customary actions.)
          And far from his alone looking back on the record of so many of the former Directors. What a hive of infamy and perfidious ‘accomplishments.’

          • Ron Anselmo October 16, 2023 at 2:03 pm #

            When the time comes, he can face the people or face the wall – his choice – his last one.

      • oldandtired October 16, 2023 at 1:01 pm #

        @ Beryl of Oyl,

        Job security indeed. The Americans pushed to their limits and beyond these last few years- are still behaving themselves. Like good Americans would. Somebody really looking around might think that the 35,000 employees of the FBI are not needed?

        It seems that try as they might, the FBI really can’t get real Americans to break the law.

        The only thing left to do is have military age foreigners enter the country through America’s southern border.

        That should give them plenty of job security.

        • tuco22 October 16, 2023 at 2:03 pm #

          Yeah, and Joe’s already set up the country to believe it’s “white supremacists.”

        • DaveO907 October 16, 2023 at 2:43 pm #

          The Mob wised up decades ago—those old Dons were nobody’s fool—they put their kids through Wharton and moved them into the steel and mirrored glass aeries overlooking the canyons of Wall Street.

          You know, where the decisions are made and the influence is hard and fast. Senators and Presidential assistants on speed-dial.

          “Nothing personal, it’s just business…”

          That facet of FBI business is seemingly much diminished. At least where it concerns the old school goodfellas.

          • Ron Anselmo October 17, 2023 at 12:01 am #

            Dave – you are right on the money, my friend.

    • JohnAZ October 16, 2023 at 11:32 am #

      Remember that Israel is only one half of the target for Jihad, the USA Satan is the other. Iran is now an operating partner in BRICS++.

      Surprise! The foreign policy of the USA has forged an alliance against itself that includes both Saudi Arabia and Iran, two enemies for millennia.

      Good job, Deep State.

  16. Ishabaka October 16, 2023 at 10:28 am #

    Do you think the Israelis, and there compadres here learned anything about the benefits of their strict gun control on 10/7? Maybe, but I doubt it.

    • JohnAZ October 16, 2023 at 11:33 am #

      What is the saying?

      Control guns and only the government and criminals will have guns.

      • jackrabbit October 16, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

        Another tired and ridiculous argument.

        • OG October 16, 2023 at 3:21 pm #

          Go on …

        • Wizard of the Saddle October 17, 2023 at 10:50 am #

          How so?

          Nazi Germany. The USSR. Cuba. Venezuela, China, etc all prove his point.

          History says you are a liar and a troll, Jack.

      • WadeWaters October 16, 2023 at 2:47 pm #

        When guns (or knives) are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns (or


        • OG October 16, 2023 at 3:20 pm #

          And how are we supposed to cut stuff if we’re not to be trusted with knives?

    • tuco22 October 16, 2023 at 2:04 pm #

      I doubt it.

  17. Bill of Rights October 16, 2023 at 10:29 am #

    260,000 DHS agents ?!?! Sounds more like China.

    All of them doing next to nothing. Then retiring on $8,000 monthly pensions at age 55.

    • tuco22 October 16, 2023 at 2:04 pm #


    • Ron Anselmo October 16, 2023 at 2:13 pm #

      Yes Bill – you and I are paying them to act like they’re working, while doing nothing. Then upon retirement, you and I pay them for doing nothing – they don’t even have to act anymore.

  18. canuk October 16, 2023 at 10:47 am #

    Amazing piece-Mr. Kunstler is the Cicero of our times.


    • TallTim October 16, 2023 at 11:35 am #

      A little light on the ridiculous premise that this was an “intelligence failure” but yes good stuff.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

        Nobody seems interested in getting to the bottom of that “intelligence
        failure” business.

        It reminded me of an episode of Dateline or one of the similar shows, where the man calls about having found his wife drowned in the bathtub, and adds “the tub is draining”.

        When I first learned of the attacks in Israel, the report started out that the Iron Dome had failed, with no further explanation.

      • Jarek October 16, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

        Nobody wants to know or is allowed to want to know. Their compliance insures them a continued seat at the table. Knowing all this, the Deep State is empowered to do as it wills.

    • jackrabbit October 16, 2023 at 9:35 pm #

      Cicero…JFC….go back and read Cicero.

  19. Disaffected October 16, 2023 at 10:49 am #

    But it does appear you’re correct.

    • Disaffected October 16, 2023 at 10:53 am #

      Spoke too soon. The censorship hammer came down on the opening thread. Too hot to handle!

      Disaffected — You’ve succeeded in affecting yourself getting thrown out of the comment section for trolling — JHK Admin.

      • Disaffected October 16, 2023 at 11:24 am #

        Thanks Jim! See ya all!

        • OG October 16, 2023 at 12:24 pm #

          You will be missed, Dis. You were often the only one who ever laughed at my … unique attempts at comedy.

          • Disaffected October 16, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

            Well, it had to happen. Happy Trails, OG!

          • Daddyotis October 16, 2023 at 4:06 pm #

            Wait. Dis is getting booted for “trolling” when our resident sodomite Jackrabbit gets no penalty for doing the same?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 10:40 am #

            What did I miss? How long is the bounce? Disaffected, you can find me via my YTube channel I posted in these threads.

        • Q. Shtik October 16, 2023 at 5:47 pm #

          Thanks Jim! See ya all! – Disaff


          I don’t get it Dis. I don’t see a thing in your comments that makes you worthy of banning. Will you or someone please explain this to me.

          • Slugoon October 17, 2023 at 4:58 am #

            And if banned, how is he posting after the fact?

          • Paddys Lament October 17, 2023 at 11:08 am #

            Slugo, good question. I think JHK’s ban is working a lot like Israel’s Iron Dome. Some missiles get through.

          • Amman October 17, 2023 at 11:49 am #

            Clueless?? Same here.

  20. Bill of Rights October 16, 2023 at 11:02 am #


    has an unusual and useful website, Foundation for Freedom Online.

    Thanks for introducing him Jim.

    • Mike Sherman October 16, 2023 at 4:51 pm #

      Yet another alt-right site, jammed with rant-fests of paranoia & imagined conspiracies. Pffttt!

  21. snagglepuss October 16, 2023 at 11:06 am #

    Mr. Wray explained: “Here in the U.S., we cannot and do not discount the possibility that Hamas or other foreign terrorist organizations could exploit the conflict to call on their supporters to conduct attacks on our own soil.”

    What short memories those FBI dudes have. They never cared about groups like Alpha 66 , Brigade 2506, Omega 7, and the FLNC (Cuban National Liberation Front) amongst other Cuban-exile paramilitary groups when they were setting off bombs in Miami, Havana and other countries like Canada while trying to kill Fidel. And taking out Qasem Soleimani was okey dokey, wasn’t it? Too many plots and assassinations to list really. Meanwhile the November 19th, 1971 edition of Life Magazine (only 50 cents) lies on my bookshelf with the cover title ” The Cities Lock Up”. America is living through a real life rewrite of Ebenezer Scrooge’s experience with ghosts from the past. But it ain’t got a thing to do with Christmas. Well, not yet anyway. What’s next? An oil embargo?

  22. Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 11:09 am #

    Any Wokesters confused about what you believe in today?


    • Islander October 16, 2023 at 11:40 am #

      What you mean “you.” Kimo Sabe?

      • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 11:51 am #

        You = Wokesters.

    • Amman October 16, 2023 at 11:52 am #

      The Twit asks “who did it?”

      I’ll tell you. It was a peasant. A very special kind of peasant. In short, a western peasant.

  23. RD3 October 16, 2023 at 11:11 am #

    The Great Replacement is the legacy of the Kennedy family. Ted’s subterfuge in insisting that the Immigration and Nationality Act would not change the ethnic balance of the nation, has done more to sink this country than anything else.

    Then you have Schwartz nee Soros. The non-Greek with the fake Greek name. The man who so hated Christendom that he dedicated his life to destroying it. The spawn of Satan are now fully-funded with their family’s ill-gotten gains and will continue their Demonic mission of destroying what is left of the Christian West.

    • TallTim October 16, 2023 at 11:33 am #

      And don’t forget they largely created the childhood vaccine program where big pharma can’t be sued, while perpetually adding more and more dangerous shots.

      • Heartlander October 16, 2023 at 9:28 pm #

        No, the no-liability policy was made during the Reagan Administration. 1986.

    • Jarek October 16, 2023 at 1:27 pm #

      He didn’t have that much money and he’s not acting alone. He’s the tip of the spear for the Rothschilds and associated Banking Families.

      • Ron Anselmo October 16, 2023 at 2:24 pm #

        Correct Janos.

    • malthuss October 16, 2023 at 4:09 pm #

      Ted was the front man..goes way deeper. ask Jarek.

  24. Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 11:12 am #

    I’m not even addressing Leon Panetta’s lies du jour.

    We didn’t send help to Benghazi because it wouldn’t have gotten there in time.

    He never even bothers to make his lies sound plausible.

    • Ron Anselmo October 16, 2023 at 2:26 pm #

      Yes Beryl – hubris – his way of daring anyone to call him on it. He knows we won’t.

  25. MetalsGuy October 16, 2023 at 11:14 am #

    You must realize that these wars, the porous US and European southern borders, the climate narrative, the COVID narrative, etc., are all being controlled by the super-rich globalists with their puppet governments, who are hell-bent on stealing our wealth, taking away our freedoms, and bringing on Agenda 2030 and a one-world government.

    Ukrainians, Russians, Israelis, Palestinians, Americans, etc., are all being gaslighted into hating each other while the true criminals hide in the shadows doing their dirty work!

    Protests should be against the globalists/central bakers.

    • stonned October 16, 2023 at 11:39 am #

      Dem Kosher Nostra boyz ain’t in the shadows no more….

      YOU IS.

    • JohnAZ October 16, 2023 at 11:41 am #

      Yes, the real battle emerging is the anti-American groups uniting under BRICS++, against the West under WEF and backed by a really dumb Deep State.

      America is caught in the middle, craving oil as a controlling influence.

      Iran against Israel, who is BRICS++ and who is WEF? Not difficult.

      • malthuss October 16, 2023 at 4:17 pm #

        BRICS++ and who is WEF?

        what? what do you imply?

    • OG October 16, 2023 at 11:52 am #

      Yes! We must stop central bakers and their central baking. It results in stale bread, I tell ya.

      Distributed baking is the only way forward!

    • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 11:55 am #

      Speaking of hiding, they may have lost their preferred bolthole in NZ.

      Now that much of the world has finally caught on, I see that Henry Kissinger is trying to pass off what the globalists have done to Europe as an honest mistake.

      Too bad we have video after video of these people all stating their clear intent, according to plans we even see in writing.

      • Night Owl October 16, 2023 at 2:33 pm #

        The recent comment from Kissinger was straight out of the Lockstep playbook.

    • Jarek October 16, 2023 at 1:28 pm #

      That’s what the Nazis said too. So you must be wrong, right?

      If Hitler said 1+1=2, then it doesn’t.

      • OG October 16, 2023 at 2:24 pm #

        Thank you.

    • SpeedyBB October 16, 2023 at 4:08 pm #

      I like the concept of “…central bakers”.

      The entire scheme is baked in.

      (Alas, for yrs. truly, an unserious sort, I’m all Vollkorn-brudder.)

  26. PeteAtomic October 16, 2023 at 11:26 am #

    “Neither of these officials noted that the rising terror threat here had any relation to the thousands of aliens streaming daily across the US border unvetted, or that the agencies under Homeland Security were helping to distribute them into every corner of America by plane and bus, giving them free cell phones, loaded debit cards, and other rewards for breaking the law.”

    Let no good crisis go to waste!

    In this case, the US has sent 2 aircraft carrier groups. Why? It’s a game of “you 2 fight & maybe I’ll get to join in”. The US wants a new government in Iran. So using all these navy vessels as bait, if Hamas/Hezbollah, or hell– a CIA run proxy– hits a US Navy ship, then game on. The Uniparty/Pentagon, Deep State, will be hollering all over the MSM about how “that evil regime in Tehran” needs to go. You betcha.

    • JohnAZ October 16, 2023 at 11:46 am #

      Pete, I was in the Med during the 1973 Israeli war. There is a corridor of ships. I would guess, like then. To protect the aerial and sea borne supply routes from the US to Israel. As usual, the US navy is trying to control the world.

      Iran attacks either of the two carriers, it will be lights out for two locations, Bandar Abbas and Teheran.

      • PeteAtomic October 16, 2023 at 8:21 pm #


        “Iran attacks either of the two carriers, it will be lights out for two locations, Bandar Abbas and Teheran.”

        yep for sure.

        A general war in the M.E. between US/Israel on one side, and Iran/Lebanon/Hamas/Yemen (and whoever Arab wants in the mix)Taliban ? would be a complete catastrophe for the US.

        I don’t even wanna imagine what price/per barrel would be. It’d be berserk.

        Would the US elites/Deep State be ok with that? They just might be. We have a “climate change emergency” that needs immediate resolution thru means of the end of fossil fuels & “alternative energy”. I’m using quotations to emphasize their argument, not mine.

        So. I feel like the elites would want nothing better than another oil war to push the US over the edge to “renewables”.

  27. stonned October 16, 2023 at 11:38 am #

    Look, once the forced EUTHANASIA programs (WEF) kick in, none of you goy are gonna have ANYTHING left to worry about.

    It’ll be just like covid, only this time, it’s one and done.

    Til then, keep them pampers on.

    • JohnAZ October 16, 2023 at 11:49 am #

      Anyone playing middle man between two groups usually gets clobbered by both.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 12:34 pm #

        I’m thinking of Trump and his attempt at a peace deal in the ME.

        I’m not saying what I think of the actual peace plan, just commenting on the reaction to it.

        • Rooftop Observer October 16, 2023 at 4:48 pm #

          Is that the ‘peace deal’ Jared scored $2 billion for? Nice work, if you can get it…

          • Ron Anselmo October 17, 2023 at 12:12 am #

            Rooftop Karen – cite your source. You have one (or more), right?

          • Night Owl October 17, 2023 at 5:01 am #

            His source is the “Edge Lord.”

            Say, what happened to old Edgy?

            He was such a well-mannered young man.


    • Night Owl October 16, 2023 at 2:32 pm #

      You mean the shots. For some, it was one and done. For others, it will be drawn out.

      • Amman October 16, 2023 at 3:00 pm #


        • Amman October 16, 2023 at 3:00 pm #


        • Night Owl October 16, 2023 at 5:29 pm #

          Many died on site after receiving the shots. Posted quite a few videos of that over the years.

          Many others were gifted myocarditis, immune system disorders, nerve degenerative issues, and a host of other issues that are more or less irreversible and will kill them prematurely.

          • Ron Anselmo October 17, 2023 at 1:07 am #

            Owl – you’re exactly right. Some it was one and done, some two and done, and some, it was two plus a booster and done.

            For many, it will be drawn out too. Ed Dowd in his book Cause Unknown, makes an inarguable case that the “vaccines” are responsible, and directly related to the rise in “all-cause mortality”. Off the charts.

            On the CDC site, before it was scrubbed, which was a weekly, if not daily occurrence, during “Covid”, to keep the narrative straight, the last bullet point on a bullet-pointed list of side effects of the shots was “Vaccine Accelerated Disease”.

            Vaccine Accelerated Disease meant that any preexisting disease – many cancers – were accelerated. At the time, I said many we planned on losing in 4 or 5 years, we’re losing in 4 or 5 months.

            The beat goes on, as time passes, many we planned on losing in 2 to 3 decades, we’re losing in 2 to 3 years.

            Trust me, these motherfuckers will pay. I for one, will not let this rest. Ever.

          • Ron Anselmo October 17, 2023 at 1:13 am #

            Dowd’s numbers indicate that there are approximately 3-3.5 million newly disabled – unable to work – a 10% increase.

            Seen any signs that say, “Please be patient and bear with us, we have a staff shortage”?

            I guess so. Commonly seen in the US.

          • Night Owl October 17, 2023 at 4:47 am #

            Yes, Ron.

            There was also a fair amount of research and tracking regarding the specific batches/lots of the “vaccines.”

            Some batches were extremely toxic, others moderately toxic, and some appeared to be no different than placebo.

            Ofc, this is exactly what you would do if you were going to kill a lot of people by mandating a novel substance and wanting to ensure that you had plausible deniability when the killing and maiming starts.

          • Amman October 17, 2023 at 11:53 am #


          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 18, 2023 at 3:49 am #

            I was creeped out about the whole thing from day one.

            The whole thing just didn’t make any sense and/or seemed way out of place and proportion.

            I don’t have a tv, but others I know do, and the way the tv legacy media were pumping it was just bizarro.

            ‘Trust your gut.’, they say. My gut was already a few blocks away, pissed off at my lagging behind.

          • Ron Anselmo October 18, 2023 at 8:20 am #

            Zazzy – you’re right.

            I think part of the reason it seemed legit initially was that the globally coordinated response, in media coverage as well, provided some sense of legitimacy to the breaking story.

            Good on you for no TeeVee. I gave mine up at about 20 years old, so 42 years ago, so I’ve lived at least 2/3 of my life without the droning bullshit.

            Your life is richer for it, but that you already know. Trust your gut – words to live by.

          • Paula D October 18, 2023 at 10:35 am #

            You don’t have to have a TV to get the propaganda, it is pushed on you from every direction.

            When I turn on my computer, it lets me know what bullshit they want me to believe today.
            Most of the younger generation gets it from their phones.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 19, 2023 at 8:06 am #

            Agreed and good points, guys.

            During the pandemic, and around the tvs of those with a tv, I used to get sort of teased that, ‘Hey, your favorite person is on!’, namely the Canadian equivalent of Fauci I guess.

            You know how some people have a knack for pushing your buttons, while others, try as they might, simply can’t or aren’t very good at it? This Fauci-equivalent was masterclass.

    • malthuss October 16, 2023 at 4:26 pm #


      I learned of 2 people dying after vax…one was friend of friend..she would get boosters, end in hospital and kept getting more vax
      sicker n sicker til death.
      she was very old…other was guy in his 40.

  28. Islander October 16, 2023 at 11:38 am #

    I’ll add birthday greetings.

    I think Mr. K has plenty of interests and skills, such as painting, to keep himself interested and amused for a good long time to come.

    • PeteAtomic October 16, 2023 at 11:44 am #


      Happy Birthday, Jim Kunstler!!


    • megabeth October 16, 2023 at 12:36 pm #

      Kunstler’s book up there, _Beauty and Catastrophe_, is a nice addition to any coffee table.

      • Ron Anselmo October 17, 2023 at 1:19 am #

        Standing on a bookshelf – coffee table books are for decoration. People stand to peruse a bookshelf and pull an interesting book for consideration – people spill wine on coffee table books.

      • Amman October 17, 2023 at 11:57 am #

        Kunstler’s on my list. So’s Andrey and Armstrong.

        Mike Adams probably is more health books.

  29. canuk October 16, 2023 at 11:38 am #

    The fundamental problem is our Western education system. No more rote knowledge is taught -let’s talk about your feelings and why we are doing that do you feel sexually like a girl or a bird?

    And do you know we are destroying our planet.

    Add kill the family unit and we have a cheap version of Huxley’s “Brave New World”

    As long as this doctrinarian goes on society is doomed for a generation; and if we really fuck up a New Dark Ages.

    • stonned October 16, 2023 at 11:40 am #

      I’ll take NEW DARK AGES for a $1000, Alex.

    • JohnAZ October 16, 2023 at 11:54 am #

      A great educator is JHK, who has prophesized since 2005 that the Peak oil, think peak everything, situation was going to take down western civ. As we know it, by the end of the century.

    • rainmaker October 16, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

      I think that a huge problem with human thinking now is that we are having a disconnect of culture. A traditional type of culture is humans who have more clearly defined boundaries and are more respecting of human limits. A narcissistic type of person hates boundaries. Old joke – why did the narcissist cross the road? It was a boundary.

    • Jarek October 16, 2023 at 1:35 pm #

      Yeah, no memory training. The adepts of this training could play chess without looking at the board. And thus gained the ability to focus on the mental world in and of itself.

      Aleister Crowley could play several games at the same time without looking.

      • SteveK9 October 18, 2023 at 10:18 am #

        Not important, but I think Morphy played something like 70 simultaneous blindfold games.

  30. reggiezz October 16, 2023 at 11:49 am #

    Ask yourself what the Progressives want to destroy to “build back better”? That’s where the attack will occur. Their intended target for revenge is the Iranian oil infrastructure. This from our current Beelzebub, Lindsay Graham yesterday:

    “Here’s my message: If Hezbollah, which is a proxy of Iran, launches a massive attack on Israel, I would consider that a threat to the state of Israel existential in nature.”

    Graham said he will introduce a resolution in the Senate to “allow military action by the United States in conjunction with Israel to knock Iran out of the oil business.”

    “Iran, if you escalate this war, we’re coming for you,” he added.

    It’s clear to me how this will play out. Fill up as many gas tanks as you can

    • Ron Anselmo October 17, 2023 at 1:49 am #

      regiezz – you’re right on. That’s also why most all the BLM/Antifa mostly peaceful riots were in city “Enterprise Zones”.

      All the burnt-out shells were and will be “Built Back Better” with insurance money and government subsidized incentives for developers.

      Progressives targeted it – BLM burnt it – we get to pay for it. You got to love this country.

  31. rainmaker October 16, 2023 at 11:54 am #

    Are Yaweh and Allah the same diety? If you say the names, they sound vitually the same.

    • JohnAZ October 16, 2023 at 12:02 pm #

      The father of both religions is Abram. Shows the impact of familial dispute. Ishmael became the progenitor of the Arabs, and Jacob, from Isaac, became the same for the Hebrews.

      Man just does not seem to be able to get along.

      • JohnAZ October 16, 2023 at 12:03 pm #

        Happy birthday, Jim, another tick on the celestial clock.

    • tuco22 October 16, 2023 at 2:15 pm #

      No, they are not.

  32. Rowdypiglet October 16, 2023 at 11:54 am #

    Happy Birthday, Jim, and thanks for your ever pithy commentary. I read a lot of blogs, but it’s solely for information and gives me no pleasure; on the contrary. This is nearly the only place where I can both savor every word and even laugh out loud as our world sinks into a sea of lies and filth of every description. That’s a pretty neat trick and not many outside of H. L. Mencken and Mark Twain could pull it off.

    “This kind of self-satisfied dishonor is a new thing in the USA”

    And here’s a fine example. Having known at least one, I recognize that as the lying of a sociopath, as distinct from the lies of normal people. People with no conscience enjoy letting you know that what they just said was a lie, and that you cannot make them admit to it. There’s a veritable infestation of this particular kind of smug, sociopathic liar in all our institutions.

    • OG October 16, 2023 at 2:20 pm #

      People with no conscience enjoy letting you know that what they just said was a lie, and that you cannot make them admit to it. There’s a veritable infestation of this particular kind of smug, sociopathic liar in all our institutions.

      Brilliant. Thank you.

  33. Beryl of Oyl October 16, 2023 at 11:58 am #

    Happy birthday from me as well.

    • elysianfield October 16, 2023 at 3:34 pm #

      Yes, I wish our host a happy, what, 75th?
      Do you know what I call 75? The good old days.

      I would suggest an annual event to celebrate your birth. An amnesty might be declared for all those miscreants, like
      Diss, who had, perhaps, senior moments, and offered posts that were…unfortunate, untoward.

      We could call it the “some guys said some things” amnesty event! Penitents will return, chastened CFN’s ranks will swell, to further the golory of our host, and the ClusteruckNation as a whole.

      To forgive is, if not devine, at least benign….

  34. Frankenstein Government October 16, 2023 at 12:12 pm #

    “This is no small thing, to restore a republic after it has fallen into corruption. I have studied history for years and I cannot recall it ever happening. It may be that our task is impossible. Yet, if we do not try then how will we know it can’t be done? And if we do not try, it most certainly won’t be done. The Founders’ Republic, and the larger war for western civilization, will be lost.”

    “But I tell you this: We will not go gently into that bloody collectivist good night. Indeed, we will make with our defiance such a sound as ALL history from that day forward will be forced to note, even if they despise us in the writing of it.”

    ~ Mike Vanderboegh

  35. redrock October 16, 2023 at 12:22 pm #

    Really good liberal social just warriors can only be conceived thru anal sex. It diminishes cranial mass but they are born anyway.

  36. NickelthroweR October 16, 2023 at 12:36 pm #

    I can break it all down in even simpler terms:

    We are all on an airplane at 30,000 feet and all the engines appear to be on fire. Oh no!

    Given that I can not put out that fire and restart the engines, the only option I have is to make peace with my creator and brace for impact.

    Or. . .

    I could waste those precious moments cursing the pilot or cursing Boeing or crying about how unfair it all is.

    • Jarek October 16, 2023 at 1:38 pm #

      Brace for impact? You’re going to be the impact. There’s a parachute stowed away in cockpit. Put it on and jump.

      God wants you to live for him not just die well before your time.

      • NickelthroweR October 16, 2023 at 3:24 pm #

        I’m braced for impact and if I survive the initial round of whatever takes out our grid then I will be a force to be reckoned with. That said, bravado in the face of WWIII and nuclear war has reached its expiration date.

    • 100th Avatar October 16, 2023 at 1:39 pm #


      Grab the stewardess* head for the mile-high room.

      *provided it is not an American based carrier

      • Ron Anselmo October 17, 2023 at 2:01 am #

        “Stewardess” went out with sword-fighting and nickel beers – it’s “Airline Attendant” now, don’t you know? Chauvinist.

    • Jarek October 16, 2023 at 2:19 pm #

      You mean land on her as a kind of cushion? In the Tower of the Carrier, on the King sized bed, thru the hole in the roof?

      One is reminded of the crowd bring the leper to Christ through a hole they made in the roof. What a way to circumvent the cloven hoof!

      Don’t stop posting en route.

      • elysianfield October 19, 2023 at 11:32 am #

        “through a hole they made in the roof. What a way to circumvent the cloven hoof.

        Was this the genesis of screwing through a hole in a sheet thing?

    • elysianfield October 19, 2023 at 11:30 am #

      “I could waste those precious moments cursing the pilot or cursing Boeing”

      Funny aside. One of my friends, a former senior airline pilot (flew heavies, trans continental)., and I were discussing airline crashes. I read somewhere that the last words, recorded in the “black box” contrivance, was usually something to the effect of “Oh shit!” He agreed, suggesting it was either “Oh shit!” or “Fucking United….”.

  37. Why_weren't_we_asked_about_Degrowth October 16, 2023 at 12:40 pm #

    WW III has changed zip codes thanks to our cherished friends. God protect our MIC, and the endless gravy train it provides.

    Who knows this may even allow the government to restrict more freedoms enjoyed by American citizens.

    • Why_weren't_we_asked_about_Degrowth October 16, 2023 at 12:40 pm #


  38. beantownbill. October 16, 2023 at 12:56 pm #

    Jim, I especially like your latest entry. I appreciate clarity very much, and you are a master of clear thinking.

    As someone who passed 75 over 3 years ago, I guess I can say,”been there, done that”. It takes a lot of courage to face up to the fact that the clock is ticking louder and louder. Whatever time is allowed to us hopefully will be put to good use.

    I just retired and put my business to bed, so I’m not yet sure ‘put to good use’ means for me. I feel as though you will continue on doing what you’re doing, or I hope so. I think – and so do a lot of other people – you are a precious resource.

    Have a happy birthday, Jim. My only concern for you is to do whatever is necessary to maintain your health.

  39. OG October 16, 2023 at 1:10 pm #

    Born: October 19, 1948 (age 74 years), New York, New York, United States

    A true Baby Boomer. The real deal.

    JHK wrote for Rolling Stone right when freedom of the press was pushed to mankind’s penultimate limit. The real frickin’ deal. An American hero.

    I have a bad habit of reiterating what has already been said (but so does every other CFN regular). Regardless, this bears repeating:

    Mr K, I can’t thank you enough for hosting your bizarre garden of free speech. You’re like the cool Sociology prof watching his brilliant students debate and bicker and taunt and name-call. Free speech is messy. One person’s calling something “stupid” is another person’s ‘I’ll bet he’s ashamed of his GLT’ as we argue amongst absolutely anyone who wants to weigh in.

    Plus the brilliant essays twice weekly! I tell ya, if crooked lawyers hadn’t extorted my life’s work from me, I’d proudly be crowdfunding you big-time for what you do for us in your mid 70s. You’re the best, sir! God bless you.

    • cowbell81 October 16, 2023 at 1:28 pm #

      Jim is the best, hands down! His missives are the main thing I look forward to at the start and close of every week.

      Hopefully Jim won’t get too snockered up on Thursday night and miss his Friday morning blog post! lol

      • tom clark October 16, 2023 at 3:02 pm #

        Been following Jimbo since before Y2K. Always a thought-provoking read, even if I disagree. And a real vocabulary builder! I’ll miss my ol’ nemisis Dis. Looks like he got booted from CFN. But Peter and I shall press on with our 2024 campaign…with the way the world is going, who knows what might happen?

  40. BULLITT October 16, 2023 at 2:25 pm #

    Happy Birthday!
    I was born in 1946.
    Things will change for you, mostly attitude.
    We are now in the “one foot in the grave, the other foot on a banana peel ‘crowd.
    I painted my garage and bathroom this Summer. When I look at these projects, I think this might be the last time I paint these rooms.
    Will LED bulbs I buy outlive me?
    IMHO, I hope we are around long enough to screw the Government out of a few more Social Security checks/direct deposits!
    Keep up the good work.

    • Rooftop Observer October 16, 2023 at 4:41 pm #

      Your SS checks are YOUR money – how do you “screw it out” of the Government when it’s your money, contributed over a lifetime?

  41. 100th Avatar October 16, 2023 at 2:37 pm #

    “Neither of these officials noted that the rising terror threat here had any relation to the thousands of aliens streaming daily across the US border unvetted…”

    Venezuela emptied its prisons and pushed out its gangs. Just as Cuba did ages ago. Peru as well. Now some of these groups target wealthy neighborhoods with home invasions and break-ins. Tip of the iceberg stuff.

    Incredible numbers of people from China, Egypt, Mauritania, India, Romania, Uzbekistan, etc.

    Only need a plane ticket to Mexico.

    Most Americans are totally ignorant of the situation. Illegal immigration to them is laborers from Latin nations south of the border.

    Mayorkas claims they’re vetted. He is correct. They run their biometrics through US FBI/State criminal databases.
    You guessed it: they are checked for an AMERICAN criminal record.


    You can be a serial rapist in Caracas or a serial thief caravaning from Bucharest but your American record is spotless… bienvenidos.

    So what is terror? Bombs? Indiscriminate shootings, stabbings, assaults? Running over pedestrians on crowded streets?

    Or is it more robbery, muggings, burglaries, theft, vandalism, drugs, gangs, fraudulent government benefits, card skimmers, shop lifting, illegal dumping, littering. In essence, the terror born from living in the new third-world ward.

    • malthuss October 16, 2023 at 4:28 pm #

      Incredible numbers of people from
      China, Egypt, Mauritania, India, Romania, Uzbekistan, etc.

      Only need a plane ticket to Mexico.

      see my comment about caste hate in USA [yikes].

      india–2 billion?
      china 1 billion plus

      phillipines— how many?


      In newspaper I read of population explosion in Egypt and the poverty there…yikes.

      • malthuss October 16, 2023 at 4:29 pm #

        Romania, Uzbekistan if they are white n christian, let em in.
        best of a bad lot.

        • 100th Avatar October 16, 2023 at 5:00 pm #

          Romania means gypsies.
          Uzbekistan is not Christian, as if that is some high-bar qualifier.

          • OG October 16, 2023 at 6:00 pm #

            Christians are awesome, man.

          • Jarek October 16, 2023 at 6:19 pm #

            Romanians aren’t gypsies. But yes, there are a lot there.

        • GreenAlba October 16, 2023 at 9:52 pm #

          Lots of Romanian criminal gangs in the UK and we apparently have 10% of the Albanian population here as well. They’re quite fond of gangs too. Tony Blair arranged the Albanian influx, apparently. He then said the criminal problem would be resolved by digital ID. Imagine that.

          • Night Owl October 17, 2023 at 4:59 am #

            Exactly. The mass migration will give them the excuse to roll out the digital control system with little pushback.

            The masses will then be put on universal basic income as the economic destruction puts more people out of work.

            Then the medical tyranny fires up again, and if you refuse to comply, you have no UBI and can live in the “cry freedom ghetto” until you die an early death.

            If we let them, ofc.

          • beantownbill. October 17, 2023 at 12:20 pm #


            My nephew recently married an Albanian. At the ceremony, I met her friends and some relatives. What a bunch of nice people. I really liked them. I’m not saying all Albanians are ok, but from what I saw, I was impressed.

          • GreenAlba October 17, 2023 at 12:40 pm #

            I don’t doubt it, Bill (and I hope they will be very happy). I think Romanians are the same. There are Romanians here who are lawyers, business people etc. But there are also very nasty gangs, both here and in their own country.

            I don’t know anything much about Albania, but I do wonder why 10% of the population has supposedly moved to the UK. We’re not in the EU and there’s no war in Albania.

          • Soul Forensics October 17, 2023 at 5:06 pm #

            Anecdotes are the extreme end of small sample sizes, and therefore worthless, but they’re still fun to throw around. Here’s mine:

            I once worked with a Romanian who was cutthroat, never smiled, vindictive, angry, humourless, and without any discernible personality.

            One of my favourite poets was born in Romania.

            Dracula was (still is?) a Romanian.

            And more broadly, the Romanians handled Ceausescu with admirable dispatch.

          • GreenAlba October 17, 2023 at 5:43 pm #

            Just the same, SF, people don’t like being attacked by gangs of anecdotes.

      • beantownbill. October 16, 2023 at 4:33 pm #

        Historically, the greater the poverty the greater the population increase, as families produce more children because they’re afraid that some of their offspring will not survive.

        • OG October 16, 2023 at 5:59 pm #

          And making love becomes the only affordable entertainment.

  42. jim October 16, 2023 at 3:08 pm #

    All of us carry around in our heads conceptions of how the world works. These conceptions are usually based on a series of largely unexamined assumptions.

    Many of my own assumptions about Israel and Hamas were blown up in the surprise attack.

    Various individuals are now attempting to understand the key role of mistaken assumptions in the Hamas surprise.

    A recent article by Norman Samuels entitled “The Konceptsia,” in Tablet makes a worthwhile first attempt at clarifying the often mistaken conceptual foundations of particular world views.

    He lists the following conceptions that may have been operating among Israeli intelligence and the military prior to the surprise attack.

    “No. 1: We have the most powerful military and the most capable intelligence in the Middle East; we have the most advanced technology; we are a financial and corporate powerhouse; we are rich and live well.

    No. 2 No Arab nation can pose a military threat to Israel, Iran is a grave indirect threat thorough Hezbollah, be we can deal with them diplomatically and militarily. Nuclear threat? Not yet.

    No 3 We can control the West Bank through police surveillance and nightly raids, we can pacify and bribe West Bankers and Gazans by work permits and limited economic benefits.

    No. 4 Oh yes, Hamas. They are in the category of classic terrorist groups, capable of terrible but limited attacks, and we have repeatedly beaten them to a pulp in the past.

    No. 5 Rockets, hmmm, yes, huge numbers in Lebanon, lots in the south, but we have the Iron Dome and, if need be, the Air Force equipped with the latest F-35 fighter planes from the U.S.

    No. 6 America has our back, and is not just concerned with its own interests.

    No. 7. The internal political situation, mass demonstrations in the streets, ostensibly about the role of the courts. The country split into ethnic, religious, and economic factions with deep roots in Israel’s history.”

    “When the dominant Konceptsia is set in stone, or becomes a self-reinforcing loop, even “obvious facts,” will not make it to the operational level. They signal confusion at the level of societal leadership.”

    • OG October 16, 2023 at 3:27 pm #

      “A cat cannot cross our border without us knowing.”
      – IDF

      “Both guards fell asleep and then the camera stopped working and the Mr Epstein hung himself. What? It could happen.”
      – Our bumbling but loveable knuckleheads

      • OG October 16, 2023 at 4:25 pm #

        You see what they do, right? They have you believe that it is perfectly normal for Jack Ruby (all mobbed up) to murder the American/Russian lone gunman in the basement of Dallas PD on live television with absolutely no plausible motive or opportunity or for three Manhattan skyscrapers to pulverize into white powder as a direct result from the collisions of aluminum tubes into two of them one Tuesday morning.

        The next thing that you know, they’re serving you shit for breakfast every morning!

        • BackRowHeckler October 17, 2023 at 7:04 am #

          Yeah, Jack Ruby was an Associate of ‘The Outfit’ in Chicago, Johnny Torio/Al Capone/Frank Nitti’s old gang. Ruby was around a long time and may have known those founding members personally.

          • OG October 17, 2023 at 9:59 am #

            And what the heck was he doing in the Dallas PD basement with a gun – performing an obvious mob hit?

          • BackRowHeckler October 17, 2023 at 1:02 pm #

            Perhaps so, OG. Frankie Yale was in that original gang too, working for Capone in both Chi & Hells Kitchen.

            Frankie Yale got rubbed out in Manhattan by a few of Legs Diamond’s boys, the first mob hit carried out with a Tommy Gun.

            I think Jack Ruby was wielding a .38 ca. Chiefs Special snubbie. It got the job done.

  43. Roundball Shaman October 16, 2023 at 3:33 pm #

    “… the barrage of lying bullshit issued by US Deep State blobsters in their effort to keep reality at bay from a citizenry gone restive and aggrieved over the seemingly deliberate ruination of our country by the people who run it.”

    When historians of the future (if there are any) are looking for a quick and accurate description of our current Age of Madness in United States Incorporated… all they have to do is quote the above. That just about covers it.

    We the People are funding a Government-In-Occupation that lies to us… tries like hell to keep reality away from us… and ruin our Once Great Nation. All funded by your tax dollars and the grand ability to conjure fake money out of the thinnest of empty air.

    And all that empty air mirrors the emptiness of what passes inside the normal American brain these days as the fruits of a grotesque mis-education system to dumb us down… a societal push to keep us all infantized and dependent… and our own cowardice from wanting to avoid hard facts has allowed us to become a Second Blob along side that First ‘Blob(sters)’ of the Deep State who serves the Dark Siders… who sit back and laugh at how well their sick social experiment has turned out in Their favor.

    Sadly, too many people have become as dumb as The Dark Siders always thought we were.

    “… former CIA Director Leon Panetta chimed in with Fox News’s Bret Baier last week to declare he still thinks that Hunter Biden’s laptop was a Russian dis-info operation.”

    Mr. Panetta went on to assert that he still believes that the Sun revolves around the Earth… that Hillary Clinton would have won the 2016 Presidential Election except for all the election cheating that Republicans did to ‘elect’ the Orange Guy… that eating tons and tons of processed sugar and corn syrup is good for you… that smoking six packs a day means you will live to 100 and have an IQ greater than Einstein… that the current Washington Commanders are the best team the NFL has ever assembled… and that there are only two genders – men, and women. (Hey, how the hell did he ever get that last thing right?!).

    “We’ll learn whether a meaningful opposition against the Party of Chaos can organize around a new House speaker.”

    Yes, we certainly all wish that Congress to get back to work! Hey, that sounds funny. Congress getting back to…‘WORK’?! (And what do you even mean, ‘Back To’ when They’ve never once ever started?

    Or, perhaps while we wait for Our Esteemed Leaders to get about the serious business of The State and Saving The World for the Hidden Hands… we might be reminded of what others have said about Congress:

    “How many Congress persons does it take to fix a problem? No one knows. It’s never happened.”

    “Why don’t they use bookmarks in congress? They just bend the pages.”

    “If the opposite of ‘pro’ is ‘con’… Then is the opposite of ‘progress’ is ‘Congress’?”

    “I learned the other day that a group of baboons is called a Congress. I found it extremely insulting to the hard work and productivity of baboons.”

    Hey, there’s a thought. Maybe if we set 535 monkeys in front of 535 typewriters they could draft a bill that would actually benefit the American People? (you remember the old thought experiment).

    • beantownbill. October 16, 2023 at 4:29 pm #

      Funny, but sadly true.

    • cbeard October 17, 2023 at 5:17 pm #

      WORK. That is a foreign concept to the American congress. Most of which never have put in an honest days work in their life.

      • Roundball Shaman October 17, 2023 at 6:06 pm #

        cbeard: “WORK. That is a foreign concept to the American congress. Most of which never have put in an honest days work in their life.”

        Not only that, but the whole idea of ‘Work’ has become a completely distasteful notion for millions of Americans of all generations who now believe that Work is ‘beneath’ them or something that ‘someone else’ does. I mean, when you want to spend every waking hour gazing with a blank stare at the Magic Box of Dancing Pixels each and every day… who has time for something as unpleasant as… work?

        Work used to be valued and appreciated as a way to contribute something in your life, build something lasting and tangible, gain self-worth from, build a future from, and something to help others with. Now work is treated by many as the last thing they would ever want to do.

        What a waste of a person’s life… and a loss of everything they could have created.

        • Ron Anselmo October 17, 2023 at 9:39 pm #

          Nice RS – the PS better than the original post.

  44. socialisthater October 16, 2023 at 3:46 pm #

    Most actual conservatives see the reality of the perfect Socialist-organized storm that is engulfing the U.S., but much of the rest of America either doesn’t want to see it (ostrich syndrome) or actually wants it to happen. The latter group is most of the Democrat Party and nearly every other anti-American organization worldwide. The former group just thinks that, if they ignore the coming social, political, and economic Armageddon coming straight at the U.S., it will somehow just go away. In fact, the deniers are as guilty as the perps of the Blob are in the wrecking of the U.S. In the coming Socialist/Communist/Fascist Holocaust that the Democrat elite is engineering for the U.S., conservatives may die on their feet in the battle ahead, but the deniers will die on their knees by the sword of the very Democrat elite they have allowed to flourish by their apathy. We are rapidly passing the point that massive destruction and death of Americans–like maybe in the millions or more–may be unavoidable. A lot of America is asleep about the threat, just like many Americans were on the brink of World War II until Pearl Harbor. This wakeup call will be far more deadly–and, worse yet, it will likely come from individuals and groups already in the U.S., very possibly with the aid and abeyance of the Democrat scum elite entrenched in our own now treasonous government.

    • beantownbill. October 16, 2023 at 4:25 pm #

      Could happen.

  45. OG October 16, 2023 at 4:14 pm #

    The IDF Was Reportedly Ordered to Stand-down



    “The IDF was given stand-down orders. Both the army and the air force. Seven hours to stand-down while those attacks took place. And this allowed the terrorists to come in and begin slaughtering and torturing the citizens.”

    “Thou shalt wage war by deception.”

  46. beantownbill. October 16, 2023 at 4:23 pm #

    I was just thinking (yes, believe it or not, I do that every once in a while):

    Many CFNers and JHK say that TPTB will not let Biden stay in for a second term, if not sooner. The media say Biden is thinking about going to Israel. A perfect scenario would be if he is offed over there. There’s no downside. The Palestinians could be blamed, which would give the US the excuse to get involved in the struggle. Or we could make it seem that Iran did it or was somehow involved, and try to take them out and get their oil.

    It would also solve the Dems’ 2024 election weaknesses and end the succession issue. Americans would be so incensed that the GOP wouldn’t stand a chance to win the election.

    Just something I was thinking about.

    • OG October 16, 2023 at 4:28 pm #

      “Yep! That works! Good thinking, Bill! Margaret … Margaret … Get me Blinken on the phone ASAP!”

    • malthuss October 16, 2023 at 4:30 pm #

      and who would care if J B was killed?

      • beantownbill. October 16, 2023 at 4:53 pm #

        Yeah, lol. But that’s another story.

  47. RUfuckinKidding? October 16, 2023 at 4:34 pm #

    “It’s even possible that those phones were preloaded with their comrades’ numbers on speed-dial.

    Why do these regular rants end up lining my budgie cage?

    • Paula D October 16, 2023 at 5:41 pm #

      You print them out?

      • DaveO907 October 17, 2023 at 12:51 am #


      • Ron Anselmo October 18, 2023 at 1:41 am #

        Nice Paula – he quiet after that.

  48. Vegan Shark October 16, 2023 at 4:34 pm #

    The din of war drums beating hasn’t completely drowned out the barrage of lying bullshit issued by US Deep State blobsters in their effort to keep reality at bay from a citizenry gone restive and aggrieved over the seemingly deliberate ruination of our country by the people who run it.

    From running the country to ruining it is one great leap for us long-suffering citizens to bear. It’s one short step for our overlords, accomplished in the blink of an i.

  49. TPTB-USA October 16, 2023 at 5:08 pm #

    “We’ll learn whether a meaningful opposition against the Party of Chaos can organize around a new House speaker.” ~ JHK

    The dirty laundry in DC, and essentially how they all engage in blackmail, is piling-up.

    “I think the public would like to know, specifically which republicans, are telling Jim Jordan to stop the Biden impeachment inquiry? Our viewers would like to know their names specifically, if that’s what they are telling Jim Jordan, and that’s why they are not supporting him, we want to know about it.” ~ Maria Bartiromo


  50. BULLITT October 16, 2023 at 5:42 pm #

    According to all the internet news sites, the Middle East Powers to Be are playing “WHO HAS THE BIGGEST WEINER”!
    We will sadly find out in the next day or so.
    His guts, our blood as Patton’s troops would say!
    Keep your eye on the ball. This might not be pretty!
    I’ve been there, done that, it’s not fun!

    • Amman October 16, 2023 at 6:14 pm #

      Shut up, Peasant.

      • OG October 16, 2023 at 8:54 pm #

        That was completely uncalled for.

        • Amman October 17, 2023 at 12:04 pm #

          Add a touch of humor, OG.

          As far as I know, No one get’s insulted being called a Peasant in this modern day and age… you see.

  51. 100th Avatar October 16, 2023 at 7:30 pm #

    Alleged terror attack in Brussels.

    They’re in the right place but still killing the wrong people.

    2 dead Swedish football fans.

    Is it really that difficult to figure out where the EU/NATO political elite congregate?

    • Paula D October 17, 2023 at 12:24 pm #

      Gosh, I wonder why they don’t ever go to NATO headquarters.

  52. OG October 16, 2023 at 7:51 pm #

    I don’t get it Dis. I don’t see a thing in your comments that makes you worthy of banning. Will you or someone please explain this to me.
    – Q

    I also don’t get it.

    • JohnAZ October 16, 2023 at 8:53 pm #

      Me too. Isn’t trolling issuing BS as an answer to every comment and not really discussing the issues.

      I do not think Dis did that, or maybe I was not listening.

      It is your blog, JHK, but I too do not understand.

      • BackRowHeckler October 16, 2023 at 9:20 pm #

        Give it a little time Jim will let him back in.

        Disaffected is a bright guy with a good sense of humor. He’ll be back.

        • Q. Shtik October 16, 2023 at 9:48 pm #

          Give it a little time Jim will let him back in. – BRH


          Yes but that’s not the point.

          • tom clark October 16, 2023 at 9:51 pm #

            I miss Dis already…even Lo’T would let him back in.

        • OG October 16, 2023 at 9:49 pm #

          What did he do wrong?

  53. oldandtired October 16, 2023 at 8:29 pm #

    The Palestinians from Gaza may be finished. They can stay in Gaza with no food, water or electricity available to them. And die from starvation, thirst and bombs. Or they can walk for miles and have no food, water or electricity available to them. And die from starvation, thirst and disease.

    This may end up looking similar to what happened in Armenia a century ago.

    What a humanitarian crisis.

    • beantownbill. October 16, 2023 at 8:54 pm #

      It is. But Israel is afraid to leave them in Gaza. Who can blame them? The Arab world is outraged, but I don’t see Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Qatar and other Arab countries offering to take them in, at least temporarily until Israel cleans out the Hamas filth. It’s too bad for the innocent Palestinians.

      • BackRowHeckler October 16, 2023 at 9:16 pm #

        Bill, what innocent Palestinians? Ok, the kids. But in Gaza they voted in Hamas, overwhelmingly.

        • jackrabbit October 16, 2023 at 9:41 pm #

          BRH….what innocent Americans? We vote for war mongering morons all the time.

          • beantownbill. October 16, 2023 at 10:23 pm #

            Never mentioned innocent Americans. I must be a nasty war-mongerer.

          • cbeard October 17, 2023 at 8:34 pm #


          • cbeard October 17, 2023 at 8:35 pm #

            Touche for the innocent Americans jackrabbit comment.

        • beantownbill. October 16, 2023 at 10:21 pm #

          Hey, Marlin, I’m with you. No group is in 100% agreement on anything. Whatever Palestinians don’t agree with Hamas is whom I’m talking about. There got to be at least 10 of them. Ya think?

      • oldandtired October 16, 2023 at 9:30 pm #


        The city of New York says it is struggling with 10,000 refugees.

        Where will 2 million Palestinians go?

        This is our host’s Long Emergency writ short.

        • beantownbill. October 16, 2023 at 10:29 pm #

          That’s not our problem, o and t. I don‘t want any Palestinians in the US, actually. Look at the squad assholes. I wish they’d go back to where they were spawned. Especially the alopeciac from my state (who unfortunately may be an American?).

          • oldandtired October 16, 2023 at 10:49 pm #


            I was not suggesting it was our problem. I was suggesting that some 2 million Palestinians may perish in the near future.

            Which puts a fine point on the fact that millions of people living on top of each other require systems upon systems. And when just one system fails, disaster happens.

            The Long Emergency. Jim has all of this right.

          • Paula D October 18, 2023 at 10:42 am #

            Indeed, oldandtired, when you have millions of people depending on outside resources to survive, it is a catastrophe waiting to happen.
            And it will.

  54. PeteAtomic October 16, 2023 at 8:29 pm #

    Will the US use the Israel crisis to gin up another oil war & use it as pretext to full on “renewable” conversion?

    It would fulfill the oft used Deep State Hegelian dialectic of politics.

    • JohnAZ October 16, 2023 at 8:48 pm #

      Do you remember what happened in 1973 after the last Israeli war?

      Gas lines, odd and even, etc.

      No thanks, although it might be good training for the Long Emergency.

      • oldandtired October 16, 2023 at 10:00 pm #

        John, I remember that time. The gas shortage occurred because every driver panicked. Nobody ever bought more than 2 dollars worth of gas. Ran around with a quarter of a tank or so. Only topped off when going on a road trip. When everybody panicked, the demand increased by 2-4 times. Everybody had to run around on a full tank! Instead of the gas being stored in the gas station, it was stored in everybody’s automobile fuel tanks. Funny shit. People drove less. Nobody drove more. “ Hey! This gas stuff is hard to get! And it costs more. I think I should drive a few hundred miles more each month!” Said nobody.

        This happy motoring stuff. Fun while it lasted. Odd and even ending license plates. Plus everybody could line up on Saturday’s, right?

        • OG October 17, 2023 at 10:34 am #

          During a bank run, it is in the collective’s best interest for everyone to simply stay at home while it is in the individual’s best interest to be first in line.

    • Why_weren't_we_asked_about_Degrowth October 16, 2023 at 9:54 pm #

      Well they conveniently ran down the SPR

  55. 100th Avatar October 16, 2023 at 8:32 pm #

    “America was created by Whites for Whites. That’s it.” – Jarek

    Have you seen the documentary film, “Tantura”?

    You should.

    • malthuss October 16, 2023 at 9:34 pm #


    • Jarek October 17, 2023 at 1:06 am #

      What’s it’s about? Non-Whites? Bodega dreams?

      • 100th Avatar October 17, 2023 at 6:34 am #

        Nothing is created without first destroying.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 9:52 am #

        You’re sitting on the world’s largest library in history… Oh, wait, maybe you’re actually sitting on your thumbs. My bad.

        Ultra-cursory glance:

        “In the war of 1948 hundreds of Palestinian villages were depopulated. Israelis call it ‘The War of Independence. Palestinians call it ‘Nakba’. The film examines one village- Tantura and why ‘Nakba’ is taboo in Israeli society.” ~ Internet Movie Database

        8/10’s pretty good. The IMDB seems tougher, critically, than, say, Rotten Tomatoes. I’ll have to see it, myself.

      • Jarek October 17, 2023 at 1:20 pm #

        Yes, the Palestinians were the Indians and the Israelis, the White colonists (not immigrants) to use an American analogy.

        Now Whites are the Indians, thanks to those who opened our borders. That was American Jews and their liberal fellow travelers like the Kennedys.

        So yes, just as Israel is for Jews, America was created by and for Whites. Were you challenging me? If so, you are refuted as per the information you proffered.

        • 100th Avatar October 17, 2023 at 3:54 pm #

          I’m inclined to believe that you perceive history as linear events on the arrow of time.

          Linear events frozen at their time coordinates on the arrow. Like Zeno, you observe the events and time stationary. Condemned to a motionless instant.

          Alas, this is not how time nor action nor human endeavors function.

          There can only be the universal.
          The nakba in this instance.
          The taboo as the Israelis understand it.
          As Guiron knew it.
          Never trapped in time, far from it, it haunts forever

        • Jarek October 17, 2023 at 10:28 pm #

          Every instant is eternal in the sense of being in the book or scroll. But there is flow too.

          You know who the good guys are. The other team…..

          Thankfully He will let us forget. At least the conscious mind is wiped clear for a relatively real new start in a new body.

  56. OG October 16, 2023 at 8:50 pm #

    Apparently Reiner Fuellmich has been arrested in Mexico, where they were staying, while he and his wife were attempting to renew their passports at the German Embassy.He was flown to Germany and is in custody, facing tens of pages of charges. Just heard on UKC News – don’t have any details. Scary times indeed.
    – GA

    I can find no confirmation of this.

    • GreenAlba October 16, 2023 at 9:33 pm #

      From the UKC News show notes:


      • OG October 16, 2023 at 10:09 pm #

        Thank you.

      • Night Owl October 17, 2023 at 4:53 am #

        It is from the spat he had with the Ausschuss (concerning supposed misappropriation of funds).

        I watched a German interview with him last night and I must say I don’t know what to think. He either tried to do something smart to avoid putting the Ausschuss in financial danger, or he tried to profit financially by parking cash in real estate and selling it on for private gain.

        His work was excellent regardless, but that is another reason all of this stinks…

        • GreenAlba October 17, 2023 at 11:05 am #

          Article in The Expose on Reiner F.


          “Pharma/EU Cabal Set Trap For Reiner Füellmich”

          Just about to read it …

          • GreenAlba October 17, 2023 at 11:08 am #

            They’re saying he was taken to Munich and arrested; the Celia Farber article say Frankfurt. Details seem to be sketchy.

          • Night Owl October 17, 2023 at 5:49 pm #

            I’ll check it out. Thanks.

    • Paddys Lament October 17, 2023 at 5:33 am #

      According to an interview with Fuellmich’s attorney @ bitteltv.com, her client is facing a charge of ‘Untreue’ (embezzlement) of donated funds and was betrayed by members of his own Corona Committee; (one of whom wrote up the charges, and two others who signed on to them).

      The attorney claims she spoke with a state prosecutor from Goettingen in July, who denied her request to examine any of the case records they had on file, due to the ongoing investigation; and she claims she was told there were no arrest warrants issued for her client, although at that time, two had already been filed: March (Germany) and May (Europe).

      She believes her client is being singled out because: he’s well-known; he stuck his neck out; and he’s a danger to “certain people.”

      Hmm, let’s see, we’ve got: ‘trumped’-up charges, moles within, no discovery. Sounds familiar!

  57. Why_weren't_we_asked_about_Degrowth October 16, 2023 at 9:52 pm #

    Happy Birthday Jim

    Thanks for your guide to the demise of Western ideals.

    Everything seems to move much faster these days. We must be at a pivotal time. The window seems to be closing on our leadership of buffoons. What legacy will they leave the world when they return to dust? How did they react upon the end of the Cold War with their victory. They unleashed decades of misery worldwide and told us it was progress.

  58. TPTB-USA October 17, 2023 at 12:58 am #

    Why is “Joe Bieden” so desperate to make friends with Xi …

    This looks like the beginning of World War III, China expert warns

    … in spite of Xi’s actions and other current events?

    China is ‘destabilizing the world’: Gordon Chang

    I sense that “Joe Biden” is in a real bad spot at this point in time, and am concerned that they are counting on Xi to force the 2030 Agenda over the finish line and get them off the hook.

    They look to Xi as a leader that is respected by Russia, Iran, North Korea, etc., and if they put the UN under his control, then the 2030 Agenda will be able to force “all nations must participate”.

    They refuse to acknowledge that they have been sucker punched, because that would be the end of their 2030 Agenda, and the end for them as well.

    • TPTB-USA October 17, 2023 at 1:21 am #

      In my mind, the above makes sense of all the nonsense.

      It’s Only a War Crime When Russia Does It

      “Oddly enough, the man who was considered a war criminal by the international community has offered to mediate the situation. Putin said that a ground offensive in Gaza would be disastrous. “And most importantly, civilian casualties will be absolutely unacceptable. There are almost two million people living there,” Russia’s president stated. “The most important thing now is to stop the bloodshed.” We would truly be living in unprecedented times if Putin held peace talks in the Middle East. It seems clear who the real warmongers are now.”

  59. The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 1:45 am #

    This is from an unread/unwatched open tab in my browser from yesterday, so I forgot how I found it (watched 6 minutes of it so far)…

    Message To The Israeli People


    Pinned comment:

    “Pinned by Middle Nation
    2 days ago
    As an Israeli I realize this message is 100% correct”

  60. The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 2:18 am #

    Jacob Portman Speaks About Invading A Palestinian Home As An IDF Soldier


  61. KesaAnna October 17, 2023 at 2:33 am #

    ” Sometimes your longer posts remind me of Shawna Colvin’s song “Sunny Came Home”, KA.

    “Burn it down & f#kk ’em all.”

    Metaphorically speaking, of course. ”

    — BackRowHeckler.

    Metaphorically I hope.

    I recall vaguely when the song was popular , liscening to it superficially and thinking it sounded like she’s a bomb maker ,

    but it’s all good because she has a pussy.

    Watched a Youtube video of the song yesterday with lyrics printed and got the same impression..

    Sounds like a bomb maker.

    I would never go around blowing up post offices.

    If you go around blowing up post offices they call you a criminal , a terrorist , a psycho.

    If you send in the tanks and the artillery and flatten a whole city in a day they call you virtuous — if you win.

    Too much fuss and bother either way.

  62. SoftStarLight October 17, 2023 at 2:56 am #

    Thank you Mr. K, it is very comical to consider that these people think they may be fooling someone. What they are likely having trouble with is hiding who they truly are in the midst of the maelstrom. Typically in tough times you get to see who people really are. Sometimes you may be refreshingly surprised. Or you could just as easily be devastated. It really is a spin of the roulette wheel.

    And in another sense I’m not terribly surprised that the idea of democracy has morphed from being a consensus of individuals to being a consensus of institutions. This is because in our system a political action committee is considered to a be a person with political ambitions. Except that unlike a regular voter, this particular person is made up of many people with lots of money. And it could be that efforts to change the idea of personhood are also behind this. But if you were to say that cyborgs and robots and AI are anti-democratic constructs a lot of people wouldn’t begin to understand.

  63. docmartin October 17, 2023 at 3:16 am #

    Mr. Kunstler, a cub reporter, continues to chase his tail, bereft of new plot lines. Check his yearly predictions. They are all fails. The regular comment crew would probably last 5 minutes in person together before chaos would ensue. I’m an old doc who served in Vietnam and I can tell all of you with certainty, savage actors only respond to savage acts and proportionality never satisfies. Fight fire with a flamethrower and take two eyes out for one eye . Never go down as a victim if you have one chance in hell to even the score. If the world keeps scolding Israel to be nice and fight fair, one day the psychopath generals( all generals everywhere are mostly psychopaths or at least sociopaths as they have to be) will say fuck it all and throw down their nukes on Iran etc and then all the finger shaking jew haters will be toast with the rest of us.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 3:23 am #

      So you served in Vietnam? What did you serve? Soup? Stew? Were you conscripted?

    • OG October 17, 2023 at 10:29 am #

      Thank you for your service, doc.

    • beantownbill. October 17, 2023 at 12:05 pm #


      For me, it’s always a pleasure to deal with realists who know the score. I’ll second OG’s comment just below.

  64. The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 3:20 am #

    Surely you know by now that Jarek is a dyed in the wool Nazi. The original kind. A Hitlerian Nazi.

    If you call him a ‘Nazi’ he’d reply, ‘Yes. And your point is?’ Or, ‘Thank you for noticing.’.

    Jarek notices everyone’s race. It’s a perverse obsession with him.” ~ Mick November 20, 2022 at 10:29 am


    Hitler is responsible for the deaths of countless so-called ‘Whites’ (that Jarek has lamented being ‘taken over’ by other ‘races’), including those of Germany’s own military, and that, apparently by his own admission of ‘incelibacy’; has not furthered his own ostensibly-‘White’ ‘bloodline’.

    Life often seems indeed stranger than fiction and those in it certainly help that along.

    • KesaAnna October 17, 2023 at 5:12 am #

      He seems like a complicated sort . — as many are.

      He seems to me far more a Strasserite or Rhoem National Socialist , rather than a Hitler / Himmler National Socialist.

      Those guys who got bumped off in 1934.

      These days he seems ?? to be coming around to the idea that recreating the Austro – Hungarian Empire , as Hitler was ironically doing , given how much Hitler bitched about the Austro – Hungarian Empire ,
      was a mistaken course.

      More than once he has seemed to downright wax poetic about at least some non – Aryans.

      Overall , and I could be wrong as it is the semi – anonymous internet ,

      as I have found not uncommonly , the bigots are more tolerant and Laisses – faire than the supposed non – bigots.

      ” apparently by his own admission of ‘incelibacy’; has not furthered his own ostensibly-‘White’ ‘bloodline’. ”

      That one always really fucking annoys me.

      — near as I can determine , prior to the industrial revolution , at least one – fifth , to maybe even one – third , of the population would never marry or breed.

      Long story , but I think Industrial revolution or no Industrial revolution , peak oil or no peak oil , that is what we are going back to .

      Again , a long story why I think so.

      — Throughout history the lumpen proletariat have consistently out – bred whatever was the designated SonnenMenschen at the time.

      In survival of the fittest terms , that would mean you should look down your nose at anyone who isn’t in the gutter.


      — It’s something any dog can do anyway.

      So what sort of put – down it is supposed to be , I cannot fathom.

      An example of stranger than fiction is 50 year olds using “insults ” that were already dumb in Middle School.

      ” Hitler is responsible for the deaths of countless so-called ‘Whites’ ”

      On that score I don’t see many Americans crying about it.

      I suspect often because they care more about an empire that isn’t even theirs , than they care about their own people.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 8:57 am #

        Fair points taken. I was merely pointing out what he might appreciate as a couple of apparent inconsistencies/contradictions. As you know, people always appreciate you pointing out their inconsistencies, contradictions and/or hypocrisies. Why, some even grab and hug you while crying tears of joy on your shoulder and offer to buy you dinner.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 9:11 am #

          Why? Because everybody appreciates and strives for the truth, that’s why. It’s the truth that builds these solid nations of ours.

          Coincidentally, incidentally, I had previously been listening to The Cranberries’s Linger on You Tube when I came across your link on previous threads. So in that instance, you decided to dispense with the dancy-dancy young Korean women music videos and go for something a little, peut être, film noirish?

          I decided to augment my You Tube channel after ages of it having pretty much nothing on it.
          Still working on it, changing my mind and so on, but might have actually added Linger, but I forget. I actually have one subscriber!


          • OG October 17, 2023 at 2:16 pm #

            Now you have 2 subscribers, Zaz.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 5:23 pm #

            Wow, two now! Thank you! ^u^

    • Jarek October 17, 2023 at 1:25 pm #

      In other words, Whites don’t exist and a people who don’t exist don’t have rights. Just like the Palestinians don’t exist either, right?

      This is the cognitive attack, one of the weapons or tactics of the people enacting the Kalergi Plan. Nazism was a counter-attack against this.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 5:13 pm #

        Stark-Raving Hypocrisy Of The Year Award

        “Hitler is responsible for the deaths of countless so-called ‘Whites’ (that Jarek has lamented being ‘taken over’ by other ‘races’), including those of Germany’s own military, and that, apparently by his own admission of ‘incelibacy’; has not [even bothered to further] his own ostensibly-‘White’ ‘bloodline’ [while apparently alienating and/or insulting/etc. women and white women no less].” ~ The Man They Call Zazelle


        Stark-Raving Hypocrisy Of The Year Award goes to… (opens the envelope…) Jarek! (canned audience applause, standing ovation)

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 5:33 pm #

        Congratulations on your award, Jarek. You earned it. And you’re welcome, it was my pleasure.

        So whites existed but now they don’t? Make up your mind.

        • Jarek October 17, 2023 at 10:24 pm #

          You keep putting Whites in quotation marks. You seem to have a problem with us. Maybe the Palestinians too, despite the anarchism and supposedly being against the world system. What’s up with that? Is it genetic?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 18, 2023 at 2:14 am #

            One more time from the top:

            Actually, it’s you with the ‘white’ problem (among other problems).

          • Jarek October 18, 2023 at 2:46 am #

            Why the quotation marks? You don’t think we exist or somethin? Do Palestinians exist? Or do they not exist too?

  65. The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 3:32 am #

    A Kingdom’s Military, Its Wall & Humpty Dumpty

    “Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall.
    Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
    All the king’s horses and all the king’s men
    Couldn’t put Humpty together again.”

  66. BackRowHeckler October 17, 2023 at 6:52 am #

    Meanwhile in Sweden, EV truck manufacturer Volta files for bankruptcy.

    Then there’s this. In a pretty little Village west of here, not long ago, a ‘refugee family’ from Central America, thru some DEI grant, with great fanfare, moved into town. There was a ceremony, all the Pols & do gooders showed up, smiles and handshakes all around. Last week the guy, we’ll call him Jose, shot his wife, the first murder in town as far back as anyone can remember. Quite possibly, there has never been a murder in that town, and it goes back to 1650. The Pols & do gooders are long gone, likely busy working on some new DEI project.

    • stelmosfire October 17, 2023 at 9:03 am #

      Was that down in New Hartford? Beautiful little town.

  67. The Man They Call Zazelle October 17, 2023 at 8:26 am #

    Transition Towns

    October 17, 2023 at 8:24 am


  68. OG October 17, 2023 at 9:50 am #

    Collective punishment is a war crime. We all know that.

    • OG October 17, 2023 at 10:02 am #

      Many biblical scholars have determined that, in the End Times, the entire world will turn against Israel.

      That seems quite feasible today. Right?

      • Amman October 17, 2023 at 11:51 am #

        The thing about the end times is a lot of people have gone through it in history, don’t you think?

        Say like a mass carpet bombing experience, an earthquake, volcano, you name it.

        • OG October 17, 2023 at 12:20 pm #

          People in the past predicted End Times.
          They were wrong.
          Therefore, End Times will never be.

          Good thinkin’.

          Never, until now, has the Mark of the Beast been technically possible.

          Just because people in the past got it wrong hardly means that I have it wrong now.

          But … scoffers gonna scoff.

  69. OG October 17, 2023 at 10:42 am #

    I wonder: Did Dis post something yesterday that was so egregious that he was banned and the offensive comment was removed?

    That seems more feasible than him getting banned for anything that remains on this thread, imho.

    • OG October 17, 2023 at 10:46 am #

      It also seemed strange to me how he thanked JHK and wished me “”Happy Trails, OG!” after he was banned.

      • gustafson.robert.22 October 17, 2023 at 11:25 am #

        Being a good sport.
        He had posted the first comment (now deleted), with a video link to an Israel-related vid. I didn’t see the rest of thread or what may have offended, or if his opening comment was simply too immediately off-topic maybe.. don’t know.

        • OG October 17, 2023 at 12:15 pm #

          I know that Dis was being a good sport. I was wondering about the strange type of ban that he was experiencing – a ban where he can still post. [?]

          Interesting. Thank you for this explanation, Gus. You verify that my morning hypothesis was bang on. Much appreciated.

          Israel/Palestine is the big enchilada. We’ve all been watching, waiting for 10/7 – Israel’s 9/11. Remember the Alamo!

          All people are on solid ground on this one. What I mean is: there are no fence-sitters. Everyone has their feet firmly planted in favour of one side or the other.

          Heckler and Bill lead the Zionists. Islander is the Palestinian ring-leader. [I got to hand it to you, Isles, you’ve clearly done the work on this topic – the most important of all topics.]

          This bombing becomes emotional and emotions can make one’s [SUBMIT COMMENT] filter go on the fritz.

          Dis is a top-notch contributor here. He can say so much with one wry sentence. And his conference call right after 10/7 was, to this day, the best analysis and delivery versus anything else that I have read or heard since.

          ‘well, listen, I don’t like to get in to specifics on the phone’ is one of the funniest lines ever! It still cracks me up.

          I pray that this is not RIP for Dis. Like me, you skate to the penalty box (sometimes so angry that you want to rip the door off its hinges), you sit down, shot of water and start getting beyond that battling young men with lumber in their hands moment. Next you’re hoping for your penalty-killing teammates to bail your dumb ass out of maybe costing us a goal with your hot head … again!

          Dis took a stupid penalty so we gotta play short-handed without him. Let’s kill his penalty for him and he’ll be out scoring us goals again soon.

      • Jarek October 17, 2023 at 1:29 pm #

        His ban was announced but JHK hadn’t gotten to it yet. I assume that’s the explanation.

        May he return in another form, to be welcomed by the good and scorned by the bad. Spuds Nada will announce triumphantly, You were banned!

        Wasn’t there a hockey dog named Spuds MacKenzie?

        • OG October 17, 2023 at 1:52 pm #

          Spuds nada. Perfect. Thx, BK.

          Spuds MacKenzie sold beer for Bud Light prior to Dylan Mulvaney giving it a go.

          Spuds is a drummer in this one:


          • Jarek October 17, 2023 at 2:18 pm #

            Potatoes I have none.

          • OG October 17, 2023 at 2:32 pm #


  70. Paula D October 17, 2023 at 12:32 pm #

    My husband came up with a prediction of what will become Speaker of the House.
    It’s funny cause it’s true.

    We have breaking news. There may be a new breakthrough in the ongoing paralysis in the U.S. House of Representatives, as a divided Republican caucus continues to struggle to find a consensus candidate to serve as House Speaker, due to the divide between so-called moderate Republicans and the more radical Freedom Caucus. Just moments ago, interim speaker Patrick McHenry announced that House Republicans have found a new compromise candidate who may be able to bridge the divide, and win over some Democratic votes to boot. The new candidate? A new artificial intelligence app, called ChatGOP!

    Developed by the makers of ChatGTP, ChatGOP will rely on a sophisticated algorithm that will analyze all of the campaign contributors and levels of contribution for all members of Congress, and their political agendas, as well as the political agendas of all lobbyists who have held meetings with members of Congress over the past 24 months. It will then develop policy proposals and even draft bills carefully calculated to win majority support, based on those agendas, and dole out committee assignments and chairmanships calculated to efficiently move those bills to a vote. ChatGOPs developers claim that this program will streamline the legislative process and make legislating in the interests of America’s leading financial and business corporations much more efficient. Instead of gridlock, it will keep our federal government in an even tighter headlock on behalf of America’s most powerful plutocrats. A vote to approve ChatBOP as the nation’s 119th Speaker of the House is expected to take place by mid-week.

    • OG October 17, 2023 at 12:43 pm #

      “We call it … The Beast!

  71. Htruth October 17, 2023 at 12:41 pm #

    Supernova Concert Site Location Moved 2 Days Before Attack In Israel: https://americanyellowvest.wordpress.com/2023/10/11/supernova-concert-site-location-moved-2-days-before-attack-in-israel/

    • SoftStarLight October 17, 2023 at 1:03 pm #

      When is Betelgeuse gonna burst? I heard it will be bright enough to see in the daytime skies.

      • stelmosfire October 17, 2023 at 2:00 pm #

        “When is Betelgeuse gonna burst? ”

        Perhaps Betelgeuse has already gone supernova back around 1776. We just won’t know about it for another couple hundred years. On a clear night I can look back in time 2.5 million years. Events that happened throughout history are still visible if you know where to look. Seeing into the future? That’s the cool trick.

        • SoftStarLight October 17, 2023 at 3:06 pm #

          Wow ok, I hadn’t heard that before. I do know that the radiance of the star has been dimming and then brightening in a cyclical manner for over a year. But shouldn’t there be a plasma cloud expanding outward if the supernova already occurred?

          • Q. Shtik October 17, 2023 at 4:15 pm #

            Re: Betelgeuse

            Betelgeuse is 650 light years from Earth so it takes light 650 years to reach us . If the explosion happened in the Year 3000 AD, then we will see the light arrive in the year 3650 AD, 650 years AFTER the event occurred.

            Putting it another way, if Betelgeuse blew up in 1373 we’ll be seeing it rather soon.

          • SoftStarLight October 17, 2023 at 4:31 pm #

            Isn’t that so quirky! I forgot about that in the moment of my question and was thinking as soon as it blew up we would be able to see it. But. There is space.

          • Ron Anselmo October 17, 2023 at 10:26 pm #

            You knew that Dreamy – but in the back of your mind. Yes. There is space. Mind-space is infinite.

          • SoftStarLight October 18, 2023 at 2:47 am #

            In the infinity of the mind space i found that you didn’t actually have a first strike like I thought the other day. so

          • Ron Anselmo October 18, 2023 at 8:35 am #

            Nice, OK then. Batter up!

            Have to step in the batter’s box, step out, take a few swings, step back in, step back out, loosen up my arms, shrug my shoulders a few times – you know how they do. Then I’ll be ready to take a few swings.

            Have to wait for just the right pitch, so I can knock it out of the park. I’m too old, it’s bottom of the 9th, bases loaded with 2 outs, I can’t afford to strike out now.

  72. Paula D October 17, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

    ”What I mean is: there are no fence-sitters. Everyone has their feet firmly planted in favour of one side or the other.”

    I actually have come down on the “a pox on both your houses” side.

    Plus, I have expressed annoyance that all those people confidently proclaiming that “there are no rules in war. It is totally fine to massacre civilians, because it’s always been done”, whether they are excusing the Hamas atrocities or the bombing of Gaza, are totally ignoring the ongoing SMO in Ukraine, where Russia is taking great care not to harm civilians. The vast majority of the civilians that have been killed in Ukraine, have been killed, just like for the last 9 years, by the Kiev regime.

    It’s one thing to have evidence go down the Memory Hole after the event is over, but to ignore ongoing evidence?
    To support war crimes, to boot?


    • SoftStarLight October 17, 2023 at 1:53 pm #

      I don’t favor one side or the other, so no, there are “fence sitters” or simply people who aren’t even near the field, so to speak. At the technicality level both sides have committed war crimes for a long time. I remember that war crimes used to be a big deal that people would get all puffed up about. Presumably the Western media embraces war crimes now as normality given that they aren’t speaking on the issue very much.

      • OG October 17, 2023 at 2:10 pm #

        I stand corrected. Not everyone is firmly on one side or the other.

        Such as these two lovely ladies.

        Most CFNers are staunchly on one side or the other. Of that, I’m certain.

        • gustafson.robert.22 October 17, 2023 at 2:17 pm #

          Another firmly no-side here.

          • OG October 17, 2023 at 2:21 pm #

            Interesting. Is there anything that either side could do to make you choose a side, Gus, or are you just a fence-sitter on everything always?

          • gustafson.robert.22 October 17, 2023 at 3:51 pm #

            Ha. I’m pro-Russia.

            Probably nothing Israel could do to get me to back them. They are a first-worldian, pro-tech influence in a region that’s a little less so. I’d just rather see anything more rural and tech-free in the region than teched-out Israelis. But, being pro-chaos, I have to keep one foot on the Israeli side right now, because chaos is what they’re sowing. And Islamic fundamentalism is gross. Not quite as gross as first-worldian techism, but close.

          • OG October 17, 2023 at 5:12 pm #

            Probably nothing Israel could do to get me to back them.

            Is there anything that Israel could do that would have you go against them? Is there any line at all?

          • gustafson.robert.22 October 17, 2023 at 5:27 pm #

            Pretty hard to root for Palestinians either. The things they want are hardly more desirable or principled than what Israelis want. I’d almost rather violence than anything in this sitiation.. Drain the boil.

          • gustafson.robert.22 October 17, 2023 at 5:27 pm #


          • SoftStarLight October 17, 2023 at 5:52 pm #

            sitiation 🙂

          • gustafson.robert.22 October 17, 2023 at 6:54 pm #


            “Roun’ heere we reefer too it as a ‘sitchy-ayshun.’ “

          • SoftStarLight October 17, 2023 at 8:32 pm #

            sitchy ayshawn lol

          • SoftStarLight October 17, 2023 at 8:33 pm #

            reefer is even funnier too 🙂

        • Slugoon October 17, 2023 at 7:59 pm #

          And another no-sider here.

        • GreenAlba October 19, 2023 at 7:22 am #

          An excellent article by James Delingpole on the tragedy of the supposedly Awake (as opposed to the Normies) letting their emotions take over from their rational knowledge about what this is always about.


          Unfortunately, I can’t link to the cartoon I saw this morning on Telegram, which had a king and his counsellor standing on a castle balcony looking at a threatening mob below, waving pitchforks and torches.

          The counsellor says to the king: ‘We don’t have to fight them; we just have to persuade the pitchfork people that the torch people want to take away their pitchforks’.

          CJ Hopkins also wrote a piece on the ‘no sides’ choice. Any of these writers who come down on the ‘no sides’ side face significant backlash from their supposedly Awake readers, which translates into loss of already-precarious income (and CJ obviously has more serious troubles as well, with the German authorities). So it takes some courage to publicly refuse to choose between two sides that are both supported by the same puppet masters.

          Israel helped create Hamas. America insisted Hamas participate in an election in which they originally declined to participate.

          We, as ever, are being played, and innocent civilians on both sides (and some 40% of Gaza’s population are children) are being sacrificed by and to the puppetmasters.

          I’m no expert, but that’s the view that’s mostly persuading me.

          We don’t need to pick sides; we need to get it stopped before it goes where the puppetmasters want it to go.

    • OG October 17, 2023 at 2:04 pm #

      “There’s always one, isn’t there?”
      – John Cleese as The Executioner in Monty Python’s Life of Brian

      Thanks, Paula. A pox on both houses. Neither feet-planted nor a fence-sitter, you. I had not considered such a camp.

      It must get lonely there, I’d think.

      • Paula D October 17, 2023 at 2:27 pm #

        Yes, lonely. Luckily, my husband is also a Pox on Both Houses person. But, I am avoiding social media, for the most part.

        You are right, there are committed flag wavers on both sides, and their excuses for war crime atrocities are extremely off-putting, to say the least.

        It’s better here, where all sides have their say.

        • Ron Anselmo October 17, 2023 at 11:22 pm #

          “It’s better here, where all sides have their say.” ~ Paula D

          Yes Paula. Thank you – one hand washes the other.

    • Jarek October 17, 2023 at 2:22 pm #

      Why can’t Paula be this wise anent Ukraine? Because she’s a Russophile. Why? Because she’s a Russian Communist.

      Countless Ukrainian citizens have been killed by Russian strikes. They hit apartment buildings for God’s sake.

      • Paula D October 17, 2023 at 2:34 pm #

        Countless? Hyperbole, as usual. We know the number, I just won’t bother looking it up, because you are impervious to facts. It is very small, compared to the usual US shock-and-awe campaigns. The ratio of soldiers to civilians killed in this war is much less than in the last 100 years of war.

        The “omigod they hit apartment buildings filled with people” narratives have almost always turned out to be false. The Kiev apartment building hit at the beginning, which was hyped for weeks, and which you still seem to be falling for, turned out to be hit by a falling Kiev regime SAM missile.

        But I have the utmost confidence that you will remain firm in your ignorance and true to your dogma, no matter what the truth actually is.

        • Jarek October 17, 2023 at 2:46 pm #

          Many have been killed, Paula. But they’re just collaterals, right? Like the girl or girls in the pizzeria. Are you saying they were prostitutes?

          • Paula D October 17, 2023 at 9:21 pm #

            Jesus, Jarek, you twist things SO much.

            I pointed out that killing civilians is a war crime and an atrocity, and that Russia has avoided it as much as possible.

            I decried the fact that the people of Donbass are still getting killed by the Kiev Banderists that you support.

            How do you get that I think they are collaterals? Just paraphrasing?

            The girls in the pizzeria with the hordes of mercenaries were not prostitutes. That is an insult to them. They were only 14 years old!
            They were prey.

  73. Jarek October 17, 2023 at 2:19 pm #


    From the Maine to the Maddox
    The stage has been set for another Gulf of Tonkin-style incident. Remember, from the USS Maine to the USS Morton, false flags and fake enemy attacks at sea is how the USA customarily justified its foreign wars. The following is from a book about baseball, of all things.

    While Ralph Houk and Johnny Keane were carrying out their embarrassing charade [with the New York Yankees], in Washington, DC., President Johnson, running for reelection after finishing John Kennedy’s term, was leading an unsuspecting American public into a devastating war with a charade of his own.

    In late September it was reported by the State Department that two American destroyers, the Richard Edward and the Morton, were fired upon by four attacking North Vietnamese gunboats, seemingly all poor shots as no damage to the American ships was reported. The Republican presidential nominee, Barry Goldwater, proclaimed, “As sure as the sun sets, we are at war.” The North Vietnamese swore that none of their ships attacked anyone. Johnson, firm, told the American people that the Vietnamese were lying.

    The Pentagon had some doubts as to whether the attacks ever did take place, and there was censorship of letters from American seamen on the two ships who tried to write home that they had not been attacked. One sailor, whose letter got through the censorship, wrote that North Vietnamese ships were sighted. We shot at them, the sailor wrote home. “They didn’t shoot at us. Johnson, gearing the country for war, coerced Congress, citing the attack on our ships, into backing his escalation of the fighting in Vietnam.

    Before the Tonkin Gulf incident, only 190 U.S. soldiers had been killed. “Before I send American G.I.’s into war,” Johnson said, “I must consider every facet very carefully.” After Johnson’s term, 25,000 American soldiers lay dead in the hostile rice paddies of a devastated country.

    In fact, the USA staged not one, but two Gulf of Tonkin incidents in order to justify its war in Vietnam. Two days prior, the USS Maddox had also had a confrontation with North Vietnamese torpedo boats after repeatedly intruding upon Vietnam’s territorial waters in an attempt to provoke the Vietnamese into firing at it.

    So don’t fall for whatever naval event is being staged in the eastern Mediterranean in the coming weeks, or the solemn pronouncements about how “we are at war”.

    The Pentagon has dispatched a second US Navy carrier strike group to the eastern Mediterranean in a move that will deliver additional American firepower to the waters near Israel as fears mount that its war with Hamas could worsen and spiral into a regional conflict. The USS Dwight D. Eisenhower Carrier Strike Group is moving into the area “as part of our effort to deter hostile actions against Israel or any efforts toward widening this war following Hamas’s attack on Israel,” Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said in a statement on Saturday. The strike group includes the aircraft carrier USS Dwight D. Eisenhower, the guided-missile cruiser USS Philippine Sea, and guided-missile destroyers USS Gravely and USS Mason.

    UPDATE: A note about the two USN carriers sent to the region from a reader.

    Something worth noting about the two carriers sent to Israel. One is the oldest nuclear carrier on the east coast, nearing end of life. The other is the newest carrier, which has been plagued with expensive technical issues. One being sunk would spare the Navy the hassle of decommissioning and defueling down the road. The other being sunk would spare the headache and hassle of trying to fix a badly designed carrier.

    • Paula D October 17, 2023 at 2:29 pm #

      Good advice, John. Don’t fall for any lies they tell you, no matter how high they crank up the Mighty Wurlitzer.

      And they will crank it up, have no doubt.

      • Jarek October 17, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

        A dear John letter from Paula.

        • Paula D October 17, 2023 at 9:23 pm #

          For some reason I thought JohnAZ wrote this, and I was proud of him for being uncharacteristically suspicious of ruling class propaganda.

          I should have known better.

          • Jarek October 17, 2023 at 10:10 pm #

            So we’re still together?

          • Paula D October 18, 2023 at 10:49 am #

            Sometimes you crack me up, Jarek.

          • Jarek October 18, 2023 at 12:58 pm #

            It’s not too late…..

    • OG October 17, 2023 at 2:29 pm #

      As of October 2023, there are 47 active aircraft carriers in the world operated by fourteen navies. The United States Navy has 11 large nuclear-powered fleet carriers—carrying around 80 fighters each—the largest carriers in the world; the total combined deck space is over twice that of all other nations combined.

      Yes, it is very interesting that the oldest and the newest of the 11 went for a Mediterranean cruise.

  74. cowbell81 October 17, 2023 at 2:33 pm #

    In homage to Dis, my feeling is that everyone here is but one single post away from being banned. At the moment you may have found the post acceptable, but then after the fact the guillotine blade will fall, and it will be too late to do anything about it or make amends.

    And the big round world just keeps on a spinnin’.

    • Night Owl October 17, 2023 at 4:25 pm #

      I don’t think so. I think this place allows for quite a bit of leeway in interactions.

      • OG October 17, 2023 at 5:09 pm #

        You just don’t get it, do you Spuds nada? The fact that “this place allows for quite a bit of leeway in interactions” and Dis, who was causing no trouble generally, was banned after one egregious post proves Cowbell right (not wrong), Einstein.

        • Night Owl October 17, 2023 at 5:47 pm #

          Who banned him? Why don’t you funnel your impotent, stupid rage in that direction, you dumb fuck.

          • OG October 17, 2023 at 6:00 pm #

            I have no rage whatsoever, Spuds nada. I’m cool as a cucumber. I miss Dis and hope that he’ll return but it’s not my blog to decide or second-guess plus I’m not even privy to his egregious comment.

            And, if you were to ask my gf, you’d find that impotency is definitely not my issue. Far from it.

            You fancy yourself smarter than you are. You’re just a 3 dressed up as a 9.

        • Night Owl October 17, 2023 at 6:36 pm #

          Bite those ankles, gamma.

          One day you’ll get me!

          • OG October 17, 2023 at 7:23 pm #

            No. I will never “get” you. You are a prideful little weasel and you will never admit that you’ve been had (even though it actually happens all of the time).

            That’s fine. You owe us all an apology for your pathetic, bizarre strawman-spewing. We all know that. You owe Bill an apology for the shit you baselessly accused him of. We all know that.

            You are a one-trick pony with zero cred, Spuds nada. And we all know that too. You’re just a 3 dressed up as a 9.

          • Night Owl October 18, 2023 at 4:02 am #

            Yet you follow me around.

            You are a mental patient, and your New Normal Nazi friend will reap what he sowed.

  75. Jarek October 17, 2023 at 2:43 pm #

    Two Quotes on the Fall of the White Man and his civilization:

    ‘Today’s migrations are no longer made by compact displacements but by successive infiltrations: little by little, individuals insinuate themselves among the “natives,” too anemic and too distinguished to stoop to the notion of a “territory.” After a thousand years of vigilance, we open the gates . . . When one thinks of the long rivalries between the French and the English, then between the French and the Germans, it seems as if each nation, by weakening one another, had as its task to speed the hour of the common downfall so that other specimens of humanity may relay them.
    ‘Like its predecessor, the new Völkerwanderung will provoke an ethnic confusion whose phases cannot be distinctly foreseen. Confronted with these disparate profiles, the notion of a community homogeneous to whatever degree is inconceivable. The very possibility of so heteroclite a crowd suggests that in the space it occupies there no longer existed, among the indigenous, any desire to safeguard even the shadow of an identity.’ Emil Cioran

    ‘Towards the end of his life the Prof. made a remark on more than one occasion with such an air of seriousness that he seemed to regard it as his testament of wisdom, and I accordingly feel it incumbent upon me to record it here, although not in perfect sympathy with it. He asked:
    ‘Do you know what the future historians will regard as the most important event of this age?’
    “Well, what is it?
    ‘It will not be Hitler and the Second World War, it will not be the release of nuclear energy, it will not be the menace of Communism.’
    “These negatives seemed very comprehensive. He put on an expression of extreme severity and turned down the corners of his lips.
    ‘It will be the abdication of the White man.’
    “Then he nodded his head up and down several times to drive home his proposition.”

    ‘The Prof’, R.F Harrod, 1959, p261. The Prof was Professor Frederick Lindemann, later Viscount Cherwell, Churchill’s scientific advisor in the 1930s and during the war.

    Jarek: If you don’t think you exist as a group, others who are very aware of themselves as such will take what “you” (collective) have away from you (collective). But, but, what about individual rights? Politics is downstream from culture. And culture is downstream from basic identity. They will change your culture and institutions as they already have – without most even realizing they were doing it.

    Tens of millions of patriots are asking, What can one man alone do? Nothing! Social capital you have none. Just the way your frame your plight show your absolute poverty. Ask BRH about how the Mufti was telling Hitler what to do…..

    Who are the Native Americans? Not you. You don’t even exist as a group. So how can you have any collective rights – which now trump individual rights?

    When The East Asians were protesting how their kids are being discriminated against in regards to admission into colleges, they didn’t even want the Whites involved. Nothing good can come from such an utterly confused non-group group.

    • cowbell81 October 17, 2023 at 2:51 pm #

      One day the White man will rise again. It won’t be easy and he will have to claw his way back from the brink, but it will happen. I imagine a world of lawless tribes, spread out across land and sea. At that time it will take a group of curious White men to explore the furthest reaches of the globe, conquer, kill, or civilize these heathens. It will be 1492 all over again. Pray to God that the results will be better, more lasting that time around.

      • Jarek October 17, 2023 at 3:03 pm #

        Well said. Never again must the mind viruses be allowed to flourish: Capitalism, Communism, Feminism, Globalism, Transhumanism.

        No more letting our children be educated by our enemies. And the nature of women will be taught to boys entering manhood, mouth to ear, as part of his initiation.

        But first comes the Butlerian Jihad and the 11th Commandment: Thou shalt not build a machine in the image of the human mind.

        • elysianfield October 17, 2023 at 11:42 pm #

          “Thou shalt not build a machine in the image of the human mind.”

          Too late.

      • JimInFlorida2.0 October 17, 2023 at 3:16 pm #

        cowbell81. Have comfort in knowing that a viable fiction was written to show the White man the way out of his predicament.

        Get the book, “The Turner Diaries” written by Dr. William L. Pierce. Or, better yet, get the CD where Dr. Pierce narrates his own book and he does a magnificent job of bringing his characters to life. Far better than any robo-reader.

        It is not a blue print but a powerful tool to repair your conscience and reorient your thoughts into an opposing force against our enemies. Too many Whites are mentally disarmed and fearfully defensive because they don’t know how to THINK correctly on this subject. This is what decades of Zionist and Talmudic social engineering hath wrought …., and the idols cast from that evil ore SHALL be torn down!

        I have no doubt that the Tribal members of CFN will shriek, curse, and wail at the mention of The Turner Diaries. Their lame attempts to question my sanity and morality will fall on deaf ears. Their boorish and scurrilous shaming language, and anti-White racist hate, does NOT negate the essence and irrefutable Truth in that book.

        • cowbell81 October 17, 2023 at 3:33 pm #

          Thank you for remining me about The Turner Diaries. I actually have that book in my library, bought it several years ago when I was worried about it going out of print and becoming absurdly expensive/hard to find.

          I simply have not gotten around to reading it yet, but now that you bring it to the fore of my mind, I may make a point of picking it up for a cover-to-cover read very soon!

      • 100th Avatar October 17, 2023 at 6:30 pm #

        The seals of this prophecy has been broken
        The rising of the white man is nigh.

        Behold, hard Mountain Dew in the refrigerated section, Jelly Roll tour sold out.

        • 100th Avatar October 17, 2023 at 6:41 pm #


        • Jarek October 17, 2023 at 10:12 pm #

          I know you try to be good, but the call of the blood is too strong!

          • 100th Avatar October 18, 2023 at 9:13 am #

            I am an equal opportunity offender

  76. OG October 17, 2023 at 3:23 pm #

    The Five Laws of Stupidity

    15m 37s


  77. Htruth October 17, 2023 at 3:31 pm #

    Supernova Concert Site Location Moved 2 Days Before Attack In Israel: https://americanyellowvest.wordpress.com/2023/10/11/supernova-concert-site-location-moved-2-days-before-attack-in-israel/

    Israel Supernova Concert Organizers Killed https://youtu.be/d74tAYYjb8Q?si=oQFm8-CXgkIb8Qvw

    • SoftStarLight October 17, 2023 at 3:42 pm #

      I wasn’t distracting from your first post. It’s just that you mentioned supernova which made me think of Betelgeuse. So what are you saying? It was all planned out? Would not surprise me in the least if Americans, Israelis, and Palestinians were mapping it all out and having a good belly laugh about all the money they’re about to make. Probably more nationalities in there too.

      • cowbell81 October 17, 2023 at 3:59 pm #

        When you mention Betelgeuse I now always think of old Lori Lightfoot, formerly of Chicago, although I know they are spelled differently.

        • JohnAZ October 17, 2023 at 4:13 pm #

          Funny, I think of Michael Keaton.

        • SoftStarLight October 17, 2023 at 4:33 pm #

          Lol, you need a mind cleanse. Or perhaps a detoxification process. What an awful specter to be haunted by!

        • SteveK9 October 18, 2023 at 10:02 am #

          Admiral Ackbar.

      • 100th Avatar October 17, 2023 at 6:39 pm #

        It forms the arm or shoulder of Orion, but one should remember that a supernova is the fantastic death of a star. An explosive rare event

        • JohnAZ October 17, 2023 at 7:00 pm #

          Orion”s right shoulder, even now it has a reddish tint.

          It is a Red Giant, big enough to reach to the orbit of Mars.

          Its demise, after the nuclear pile in its center can no longer offset its gravity center, is to collapse in on itself and create a black hole.

          The info I have seen says it will be as bright as the full moon, but only for a while.

        • beantownbill. October 17, 2023 at 8:07 pm #

          Not rare.

          • 100th Avatar October 17, 2023 at 9:05 pm #

            “…observations of supernovae in other galaxies suggest they occur in the Milky Way on average about three times every century.”

            “The last supernova directly observed in the Milky Way was Kepler’s Supernova in 1604, appearing not long after Tycho’s Supernova in 1572,”

            “ Although many supernovae have been seen in nearby galaxies, supernova explosions are relatively rare events in our own galaxy, happening once a century or so”

            “Unfortunately, supernovae visible to the naked eye are rare. One occurs in our galaxy every few hundred years, so there is no guarantee you will ever see one in our galaxy in your lifetime.”

            “ Only a tiny fraction of the 100 billion stars in a typical galaxy have the capacity to become a supernova, being restricted to those having high mass and rare kinds of binary stars containing white dwarfs.”

            Shall I continue?

        • SoftStarLight October 17, 2023 at 8:34 pm #

          Ah, so in a sense it is exciting but we should also pay our respects and its not all a party and everything?

          • 100th Avatar October 17, 2023 at 9:11 pm #

            There is a congruity
            Serendipitous or zemblanity

          • SoftStarLight October 18, 2023 at 3:00 am #


    • Paula D October 18, 2023 at 10:52 am #

      And….the comment is derailed for the second time.

  78. JohnAZ October 17, 2023 at 4:09 pm #

    It seems to me that the more government tries to shove different peoples down each other’s throats, the more they want to separate. Governments by natured are unipolar, usually because one man ends up in charge and by golly, you will be like me.

    I am always amazed at the fact that with all the varying peoples in the USA, we have two parties, period. The really amazing thing is that within the two parties, the people within all believe exactly the same things. Name the issue, Dems, actually Progressives have one point of view, the conservatives the opposite. Not the GOP, the Conservatives. The harder some elements try to bridge the gap, think John McCain, Jeff Flake or Mitch McConnell the gap continues to spread and will until conflagration happens and one side or the other gets eliminated and a new culture comes to pass based on the winner.

    Our own civil war is a good example, our own revolution another.

    CFNers claiming to be fence sitters join the compromisers, willing to see both sides point of view. Most have no strong secular opinion on social issues, it allows them to tolerate any point of view.

    Jesus was a fence sitter. Love your God with all your heart and soul, and love your fellow man. He spoke above the foibles of government and all its issues.

    That is it.

    Man, by his nature, will not compromise in the long run as the drive to compromise leads to more division as both sides grieve the issues they gave up to compromise. Catch 22, the more compromise happens, the deeper the wounds get and the farther apart the sides get to be.

    Our form of government was instituted to prevent one side from acquiring too much power. It is failing due to the long term persistence of one side and the fence sitting nature of the other, too willing to compromise. The result? Uniparty domination and the divisional battle drops to the state level. The war today is between the people and the Deep State.

    Look at the run up to the civil war as an example. Compromise after compromise to try to assuage the slave holders and the abolitionists. Finally, a president arose that said, “no more compromise, the union will not be divided any more by BS compromise, we will become one side or the other”. The weaker side said, “no way”’, and the war erupted. Compromise does not work.

    The point of the Fourth Turning is that the spiritual growth of the second and third turnings and the compromise that happens eventually, always, explodes into the Fourth Turning and war.

    The longer the feelings and emotions of both sides grow and grow, the more intense the conflagration. The next Turning should be a doozy.

    • SoftStarLight October 17, 2023 at 4:39 pm #

      The King of Jordan says he is not accepting Palestinian refugees and neither is Egypt.

      • cowbell81 October 17, 2023 at 4:45 pm #

        Smart leaders, if only the US decided to impose such restrictions. We allow unchecked immigration from unknowns, much to our future demise.

        • SoftStarLight October 17, 2023 at 5:09 pm #

          I’ve never understood the argument that a country has to accept immigrants just because? Who made that rule?

          • 100th Avatar October 17, 2023 at 6:30 pm #


          • Night Owl October 18, 2023 at 3:48 am #

            The same people who can do all of the things you can’t, such as get inside info. on when to sell stocks, move money around the world with no fees, commit fly to Davos on a private plane but tell you you need to install 200k worth of insulation on your house, and much, much more.

            I suspect they can even print money when they run out of it.


          • OG October 18, 2023 at 10:40 am #

            Are you not at all concerned that your childish smiley-faced signatures will give us the understanding that, deep down, you are a closeted homosexual?

      • BackRowHeckler October 17, 2023 at 9:08 pm #

        Egyptians & Jordanians don’t care much for Palestinians, but undergrads at Harvard, Cornell, & NYU seem to love them.

        • Soul Forensics October 18, 2023 at 12:24 am #

          They love them as ideas, BRH, and as long as they remain in Gaza. Living in their high-rises, or next door? Not so much.

          • OG October 18, 2023 at 10:32 am #

            Nobody wants to live next to a bombing target.

  79. cowbell81 October 17, 2023 at 4:47 pm #

    Who can honestly blame him?

    Palestinians’ Abbas cancels planned Biden meeting after Gaza hospital strike

    I laugh at the fact that the Saudi Prince kept Blinken waiting overnight before he agreed to meet with him.

    • SoftStarLight October 17, 2023 at 5:11 pm #

      He may have realized it was pointless to meet with Biden since he is a puppet. Why not meet with the puppeteer/puppeteers?

      • Soul Forensics October 17, 2023 at 5:34 pm #

        How does one meet with a hologram?

        • SoftStarLight October 17, 2023 at 5:50 pm #

          Well, I suppose you would meet with a hologram like you would anyone else. However, before the meeting I would start by asking to speak with the programmer or operator. You have to be willing to be a Karen if you are to expect better out of life. A lot of people don’t realize that.

    • SteveK9 October 18, 2023 at 9:10 am #

      Phillip Giraldi:

      Secretary of State Antony Blinken is already in Jerusalem, announcing that the US is there to support Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s unity government “as long as America exists” after first saying “I come before you not only as the United States Secretary of State, but also as a Jew.” Blinken’s explicit association of his personal religion with his official role as a representative of the US government makes clear that a key element in why he is there is because he is “a Jew.” Perhaps he should recuse himself from policy making involving Israel as being “a Jew” would not appear to be a United States national interest and is likely to produce irrational responses to developing situations.

  80. SoftStarLight October 17, 2023 at 5:56 pm #

    The Jordanians canceled their meeting with “Joe Biden” tomorrow. Does this mean Bidenomics is not working? 🙂

    • stelmosfire October 17, 2023 at 6:26 pm #

      I hear Slo’ Joe is bummed. He really wanted to get a good sniff of the Queen’s hair. She’s a cutey.

      • SoftStarLight October 17, 2023 at 8:36 pm #

        She might have played an outsized role in the meeting cancellation? 🙂

    • 100th Avatar October 17, 2023 at 6:33 pm #

      C’mon man, what are you going to do with your guns? We got F-15’s you dog faced donkey boys

      • SoftStarLight October 17, 2023 at 8:37 pm #

        lol dog faced donkey boys, ah that’s fun

  81. KesaAnna October 17, 2023 at 8:23 pm #

    ” Countless Ukrainian citizens have been killed by Russian strikes. They hit apartment buildings for God’s sake. ”

    Not a week goes by it seems that I don’t think to myself ,

    ” Am I the only person in the world who has heard of shrapnel ? ”

    Or concussion ?

    Under normal circumstances I suppose a toothpick isn’t a particularly deadly weapon.

    But when it is flying through the air at 500 mph it will go right through your skull like your skull was warm cheese.

    Concussion — an artillery shell goes bang , and fifty yards away a guy drops dead without a single external mark on him . The blast wave pulverized his innards , from his brain to his toes.

    If civilian casualties are really a significant issue then the fancy gizmos should be dispensed with , and return to lances and flintlocks.

    In WW I a British Tommy described helmets as shrapnel – proof or bullet – proof , until shrapnel or a bullet hits it.

    I have grave doubts the situation there has really improved in the past 100 years.

    So helmets are really something of a fashion trend.

    I hear that in Afghanistan some units of KGB Border Guards insisted on wearing their green peaked caps in the field , as likewise some units of Spetznaz insisted on wearing their blue berets in the field , to make the statement that we are bad ass —

    — and because helmets are bullshit anyway.

    And then there is camouflage . I guess it might be useful if you are fighting Nigeria or the SLA ,

    but if you are fighting the A – Team they are going to see you anyway .

    So you might as well wear your loudest clown gear.

    So I suspect camoflage is something of a fashion fetish kind of thing too.

    • BackRowHeckler October 17, 2023 at 9:02 pm #

      On the Western Front 1914-1918, 78% of battlefield casualties were the result of artillery strikes. Consider this, in the run up to the Somme, 1,5 million artillery shells were launched at German positions. Even times when the Battlefield was relatively quiet the BEF lost 5000 dead per week in the trenches from harassing German artillery fire. It was also noted early in the war a close detonation of a shell would simply annihilate a human body, would make it simply evaporate. But of course it was the shrapnel that tore bodies apart.

      Artillery is King of the Battlefield, and Russians are masters of Artillery. One has to feel for those Ukrainians soldiers who are at the receiving end of it.

      • Jarek October 17, 2023 at 10:20 pm #

        People used to think that PTSD or Battle Fatigue was the result of the sonic blasts on the human nervous system. Besides the complete horror, were/are they completely wrong?

      • KesaAnna October 18, 2023 at 12:13 am #

        They also call artillery The God of War , and not for nothing.

        I often think of artillery as being like railroads in apparent popular perception ;

        Old – fashioned , hum – drum , a bit passe.

        But artillery is still bedrock in war , and railroads are still bedrock to modern life.

        I loves me some rocket artillery though ,

        from Nebelwerfers to Scuds.

        I must confess that in the first Iraq war I was rather gratified that Iraqi Scuds were running around lobbing rockets , if inaccurately , if not decisively , at will .

        And near as I can determine , Coalition air power never found , nor destroyed , a single Scud battery.

        Chalk one up for the cute missile on the cute truck.


        • Jarek October 18, 2023 at 2:21 pm #

          Can you see yourself astride an “A bomb” as it goes down like the cowboy commander in Dr Strangelove?

          If orgasm is le petit mort, is death the grand orgasm?

          • Paddys Lament October 19, 2023 at 11:24 pm #

            Where do wet dreams fit in ?

      • SteveK9 October 18, 2023 at 9:08 am #

        The Ukrainians are equally good … because they are also Russians.

  82. 100th Avatar October 17, 2023 at 9:36 pm #

    “I love skeptics, I learn more from skeptics than I do from crazy-ass believers who believe everything.”

    -Edwin C. May Ph.D.
    Operation Stargate, Cognitive Sciences Laboratory, SAIC

    • OG October 18, 2023 at 11:09 am #

      Who are these “crazy-ass believers who believe everything”? I have never encountered such a person. It sounds to me that Ed May be completely full of shit in his ad homs of the faithful.

  83. beantownbill. October 17, 2023 at 10:58 pm #

    @100th: re supernovae

    Since there are at least 100 billion galaxies, and possibly up to a trillion in the universe, 3 per century would come out to 300 billion supernovae per century. I don’t know about you, but I don’t call that rare. I’ve seen pictures of a lot of them, although all you see is a very bright star.

    But I get what you are saying. I suppose I’m splitting hairs about the word ‘rare’. I just wanted to let you know how mind-blowingly huge the universe is.

    • SoftStarLight October 18, 2023 at 3:06 am #

      Whoa that is a mind bomb concept. The universe is so seemingly unimaginably huge that both space and time make things seem very common and also very rare. It just depends on the perspective, the points of which can be seemingly infinite too.

      • beantownbill. October 18, 2023 at 11:02 am #

        SSL, very true. I appreciate your interest in all this.

    • 100th Avatar October 18, 2023 at 9:11 am #

      I more than know.
      However, it goes without saying that I am speaking of the observable universe, and the scarce observation of supernova by humans here on Earth, discounting the new telescopes looking even further back in time.

      But let’s split hairs.

      If we do the math, life is not rare, nor is complex life, but do you consider extraterrestrial life rare?


      If we have an infinite universe with limited forms of matter, we then have infinite forms of Bill, out there, perhaps less pedantic, perhaps less prone to laconic retorts, perhaps using qualifiers.

      Less rare.

      • 100th Avatar October 18, 2023 at 9:25 am #

        Drake equation estimates12K civilizations in our galaxy. Galaxy.

        Thus, aliens are not rare!

        Sagan estimated 1 million!
        Again, not rare.

        Of course skeptics got involved and tossed out conservative estimates:

        1,000 civilizations in our galaxy.
        Not rare. Especially with 2 trillion galaxies or so in the universe.

        So big deal if you actually get eyes on an extraterrestrial! They’re a dime a gazillion

        • OG October 18, 2023 at 10:29 am #

          The Drake Equation is part of why there are official searches for alien life. 10 x 100% x 25% x 100% x 1% x 50% x 1,000,000 = 12,500 intelligent alien civilizations which may currently exist. This is just a guess, but shows why some scientists think it will be easy to discover alien life.

          Is it logically sound to claim “Thus” after presenting a known “guess”? I think not.

          I estimate that I’ve got over $41,200,000 in my sock drawer.

          Does that make me rich? Or is it also possible that this is nothing more than my “guess” is wholly inaccurate?

          • beantownbill. October 18, 2023 at 11:40 am #

            Could I perhaps borrow a few million, interest free of course?

          • RUfuckinKidding? October 18, 2023 at 6:30 pm #

            Hey, OG. How’d you settle on “OG” as a handle, coz you ain’t the OG…

        • JohnAZ October 18, 2023 at 10:38 am #

          God was smart and kept potential civilizations many light years away from each other.

          In a world where the attention span is in days, the idea of finding a life form that takes decades to contact is meaningless.

          For once, wouldn’t it be nice if we, mankind, would work on improving ourselves rather than trying to find a competitor.

          • beantownbill. October 18, 2023 at 10:58 am #

            It would be nice, but why not try to do both?

          • 100th Avatar October 18, 2023 at 1:38 pm #

            “God was smart and kept potential civilizations many light years away from each other.”

            I think my eyes just rolled out from my skull

      • beantownbill. October 18, 2023 at 11:38 am #


        Please define what you call the observable universe.

        Observationally, we’ve been searching for evidence of alien civilizations through SETI for a long time. We have yet to find one, but our observational techniques are getting more and more advanced. I think we are on the cusp to finding evidence of intelligent life.

        But I’d like to differentiate between finding such evidence and visitations to Earth. The distances are so huge we really don’t know if they are or were here, despite some people’s hopes.

        For me, I would be very nervous if we found real evidence of alien star travel or past visitations. On Earth, the history of civilizational contacts between cultures have turned out bad for the lesser advanced societies.

        Anyway, about me being pedantic which means excessively concerned with formalism or minutae. My interests lie in huge numbers, so even small differences add up to large errors. In that sense, I guess I am pedantic.

        If there are infinite Bills, God help the universe!

        • 100th Avatar October 18, 2023 at 1:52 pm #

          What a human on earth can see relatively unaided.

          Not what mathematics, and enormous telescopic arrays traveling eons back in time can detect or predict.

          The horse is dead, we’re left kicking at dust.

          The point is that supernova are rare to witness destructive events. And the namesake of the moved music festival.

          The 2017 Vegas massacre was at the Harvest festival.

          • Paula D October 18, 2023 at 2:45 pm #

            Wow, Avatar, that is a good point. Why were both so aptly named?

            What about the Astroworld concert in Houston? Any meaning to that name?

  84. beantownbill. October 17, 2023 at 11:33 pm #

    Looking up at the sky is looking through a Time Machine, both past and future. As St. Elmo said, if Betelgeuse is 650 light years away, the light from its supernova explosion would take 650 years to reach us. 650 light years is about 3,900 trillion miles, so the light would have been traveling for about 4 quadrillion miles through space. Why, that’s almost equal in miles to the world’s liability in derivative dollars (so you could say we have a Betelgeuse worth of liability)!

    By studying further out stars and then comparing them with closer similar ones, we can see how the older ones have changed over time. Then we can extrapolate the differences to guess how the stars in the future will look, thus time traveling to the future. Of course, it’s much more complicated than my example, but the principle is the same.

    • SoftStarLight October 18, 2023 at 3:11 am #

      Wow that is a lot of liability. Maybe a worm hole would provide escape from such a liability?

      • beantownbill. October 18, 2023 at 10:57 am #

        I should have thought about that. Unfortunately, when I reviewed my college physics notes, I read that black holes cannot ingest financial derivatives. They simply get thrown out in the Earth’s direction, hence their seemingly incomprehensible growth rate.

        Next thing you’ll tell me is that we are responsible for all this, lol.

  85. elysianfield October 17, 2023 at 11:33 pm #

    Well, ladies and germs;

    Flashmobs. In the good old USSA, flashmobs are a time of looting, violence, sometimes arson and even murder. In other cultures, however, flashmobs are…different;


    YouTube has many, many examples of this,. mostly from Europe. Take a minute and watch the example offered.

    • stelmosfire October 18, 2023 at 8:46 am #

      Fake news! I’ve been around a while and have yet to see someone carrying their bassoon around out on the street. A shotgun maybe but never a bassoon. Must be a continental thing.

      • stelmosfire October 18, 2023 at 9:04 am #

        That clip was posted during the great Covid terror. Feb. ’21

        From the video title:

        “Imagine the feeling, when we can be together and make music again.”

        That will be after full vaccination and with permission from our rulers of course.

    • Mike Sherman October 18, 2023 at 5:28 pm #

      Yeah, interesting crowd indeed! No visible tattoos, everybody dressed like grown-ups, and all with a BMI around 25-32…just like the US before Big Corn Syrup fucked it all over.

    • Paula D October 19, 2023 at 12:27 pm #

      I love watching flash mob videos.

      One of my favorites (natch)


  86. The Man They Call Zazelle October 18, 2023 at 1:59 am #

    Yohannon [AKA Jarek] December 13, 2020 at 3:26 pm:

    “In other words, you stand with Big Tech and the cancelation of the First Amendment. What a hero!”

    sterow December 14, 2020 at 12:24 am:


    The first amendment says you can’t shut down a comments section that gets infested with neo-nazis.

    This comic is a cliche at this point but I am going to link to it as apparently it has not sunk in and you are confused as to what free speech is: httpX://xkcd.com/1357/

    Kunstler can and should shut down a comment section in which people are dropping Daily Stormer links.”


    Yohannon June 16, 2021 at 6:08 pm:

    “I don’t. HIs posts are almost invariably nonsense.”

    Tekapo June 16, 2021 at 7:15 pm:

    “I don’t write love-letters to Hitler… you have that ecological niche covered.”


    James Howard Kunstler September 17, 2021 at 10:00 am:

    Note to commenters: The character who goes by Yohannon has been banned for ignoring two warnings by email about posting links to the Nazi website The Daily Stormer. — JHK Admin

    • SoftStarLight October 18, 2023 at 3:28 am #

      I don’t see those connections. Space/time tells me so. But its amazing to ponder the symmetry and the dichotomy and the uniformity of it all. There is serendipity and zemblanity. Learn the marvel of these most wondrous words.


      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 18, 2023 at 5:23 am #

        “At least with the Nazis my people would live.” ~ SoftStarLight November 18, 2018 at 1:25 pm

        • gustafson.robert.22 October 18, 2023 at 7:03 am #

          Don’t have to go “full Jarek” to acknowledge that ties of blood are deep, sewn into and essential to the human fabric, and we play loose and liberal with them at our own peril (as is evidenced literally everywhere, currently).

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 18, 2023 at 10:13 am #

            Unsure what you mean, but there are different ways to see and recognize ourselves in others, and vice-versa, that others may not, and so forth. It’s far more complex.

            In any case, new circumstances will unfold that create new evolutionary pressures, paths, species and environments to fill, explore and further evolve from.

          • JohnAZ October 18, 2023 at 10:32 am #


            You will believe me and my culture or you will die!

            This, with the power drive, has been the downfall of mankind,


            Zaz,, today limitations in resource availability is bringing a new face in the subject. I appreciate your optimism about new opportunities but the competition for those resources are going to put divisive pressure on future folks. Cohesion will be on the back burner. Evolution is survival of the fittest. Being the survivor, the fittest, will be a bloody exercise.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 18, 2023 at 10:58 am #

            John, I did not write it with, as you suggest, an ‘optimistic’ intent per se, and included the term, ‘environmental pressures’.

            I just watched a YT documentary of the little mammals that survived the extinction event that wiped out the dinosaurs and that then went on to evolve into us.

            The only constant, it has been said, is change.
            It has also been said that extinction is the rule rather than the exception.

            Puts any idle anonymous online ruminations/notions in perspective.

            Here’s the doc in case you might be interested:

            How Did We Survive Armageddon?


          • Jarek October 18, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

            John: Cohesion will be on the back burner? Huh? It will be the principle of who survives and who doesn’t.

            To be ostracized from the group is a death sentence.

            Strongly cohering groups will drive out and/or exterminate weak groups, perhaps taking their women and children. Many of the women will go quite willingly, perhaps well before the final showdown. The women of the dying Greenland Vikings seemed to have gone over to the Inuit side.

          • JohnAZ October 18, 2023 at 4:29 pm #


            The cohesion I am speaking of is inside a society, a common culture. All culture larger than a certain size will split up into smaller groups. Those smaller groups will compete and the survival of the fittest will be the evolutionary pathway.

            Notice haw nature does not have species that are very close to each other, many forms of hippos, or Rhinos, or even humans. Similar species occupy the same resource niche and therefore compete. The fittest survives.

            Ever wonder what a great extinction event really entails? Life starts over from a few few remaining species. Dinosaurs evolved after the Great Extinction and mammals after the Chixalub extinction.

            One thing I have always wondered is what happens to the earth itself when it collides with something, does it change orbit, does it shift axis? Why didn’t the reptiles, dinosaurs, just continue to evolve from what was left 65 million years ago? Why did turtles, crocs, lizards and snakes evolve and Dino’s not.

            Hmmm, did something happen to earth to make it untenable for the Middle life forms, maybe it got much colder as it shifted into a wider orbit? For example, were there ice ages during the Mesozoic?

        • Jarek October 18, 2023 at 1:06 pm #

          But does she still believe?! Such belief is a saving grace.

      • Jarek October 18, 2023 at 1:16 pm #

        The zemblanity of breeding zirs

    • BackRowHeckler October 18, 2023 at 8:11 am #

      Zaz writes love letters to Emma Goldman & Leon Czolgoz.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 18, 2023 at 10:38 am #

        Hitler, Stalin and other despots of history couldn’t have gotten anywhere without a whole lot of mindless mass complicity, like proverbial lemmings off the cliff.


        ” ‘First they came …’ (German: Zuerst kamen sie …) is the poetic form of a 1946 post-war confessional prose by the German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984). It is about the silence of German intellectuals and clergy– including, by his own admission, Niemöller himself– following the Nazis’ rise to power and subsequent incremental purging of their chosen targets, group after group. Many variations and adaptations in the spirit of the original have been published in the English language. It deals with themes of persecution, guilt, repentance, and personal responsibility…

        The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum quotes the following text as one of the many poetic versions of the speech:

        First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—
        Because I was not a socialist.

        Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—
        Because I was not a trade unionist.

        Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
        Because I was not a Jew.

        Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

        A longer version by the Holocaust Memorial Day Trust, a charity established by the British government, is as follows:

        First they came for the Communists
        And I did not speak out
        Because I was not a Communist

        Then they came for the Socialists
        And I did not speak out
        Because I was not a Socialist

        Then they came for the trade unionists
        And I did not speak out
        Because I was not a trade unionist

        Then they came for the Jews
        And I did not speak out
        Because I was not a Jew

        Then they came for me
        And there was no one left
        To speak out for me


        Who do you or will you be writing your love letters to, BackRowHeckler?

        • malthuss October 18, 2023 at 10:45 am #

          First they came for the Communists


          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 18, 2023 at 11:13 am #

            Then we went for them.

            …Right? 😉

        • Jarek October 18, 2023 at 1:10 pm #

          Then they came for the Palestinians
          And I did speak out for them because
          I knew I was next.

          Za never speak out for the Palis. Doesn’t their plight embody the need and strength of anarchism? Yet on this one, he seems to go with the Powers That Be.

          Why is that I wonder as I wander.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 19, 2023 at 3:06 pm #

            That’s because Ja hasn’t been paying attention.

        • BackRowHeckler October 18, 2023 at 1:50 pm #

          I won’t be writing any love letters your Anarchist Assassins, Zaz.

          ‘Hostis Humani Generis,’ enemies of all mankind.

          I know, I know, politically inspired murder is old school Anarchism, you don’t do that anymore. Now you hit the streets dressed in all black, stop traffic, drag commuters out of cars and beat them with baseball bats. And if they fight back you call on the police, claiming that you’re a victim ~ it’s the passive/aggressive method of ‘Resistance,’

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 19, 2023 at 3:36 pm #


            Sounds like State agitprop really has you by the intellectual balls.

            That’s ok:

            People are becoming increasingly aware of real anarchy, rather than the fake shit agitpropped by the State, and it may be only a matter of time before the State smashes itself into the wall of its own making and sufficiently so to finally grind it to a halt.

            Speaking of which, by last look, the US at 5% of Earth’s population used about 25% of its resources.

            The bigger they are, the harder they fall.

            “The measure of the state’s success is that the word anarchy frightens people, while the word state does not.” ~ Joseph Sobran

            “One thing I would say about the prospects for government action. Governments are crowds. They are reactive not proactive. And essentially it means that whatever they do, they’re… extrapolating past trends forward and not anticipating trend changes. So that’s like driving your car, flooring it, while only looking in the rear view mirror. It’s practically a guarantee of a really nasty accident. Plus the people who are in power tend to have the most invested in the status-quo. They tend to have benefitted greatly from that. These are not the people you are going to look to to change that kind of system. I more or less ignore them and I pay attention to municipal politics and things at lower levels, but I don’t expect anything good from the top down…” ~ Nicole Foss

        • 100th Avatar October 18, 2023 at 4:57 pm #

          Lemmings, at least, aren’t guided off.

          Humans are shepherded by their own kind.

          Hannity, Dana Lash, Citizen Free Press, Faux, Breitbart, Off the Press, Graham, Eyepatch McCain, John from Arizona, etc.

          All emotion filled war squawks.

          They all want everyone to march to war. To kill. To avenge.
          Not here mind you.

          Not for your people.
          For theirs

          Knowing full well we all get dragged into it.

          No, lemmings they just make a bad turn, a mistake.

          Humans are manipulated through calculations and machinations by the blood lust types. Not for theirs
          For your

          • OG October 18, 2023 at 7:38 pm #

            But Lahaina 8/8 was an act of God, right?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 19, 2023 at 3:41 am #

            The proverbial kind of ‘lemmings’ of course.

            I looked it up a long time ago and, apparently, real lemmings don’t actually ‘All together now!’ dart off of cliffs as if in a mass suicide or even a happy hot-weather water-body jump-in like humans might.

            Your good points taken.

        • elysianfield October 18, 2023 at 6:31 pm #

          “Then they came for me
          And there was no one left
          To speak out for me”

          It was no accident they came for you…someone dropped a dime on your sorry ass, cause…anarchy!

          I’ll speak out for you.

          “Yeah, it was Zaz! I saw him do it…and he was talkin’ about your mama, too….”

          Zaz, you gonna love anarchy. The academic you referenced has no standing other than his fevered dreams as a political scientist. I’d at least have a little respect for him if he was a cultural anthropologist…but then, he would not be offering his thesis, as they understand the difference between civilization and anarchy.

          Go figure.

          • BackRowHeckler October 18, 2023 at 7:39 pm #

            If the Anarchists got into power, I wonder how brutal they would turn out to be? I bet they would give the Bolsheviks & the National Socialists a good run for their money. First order of the day would be to organize a black clad Police Force, one not adverse to smacking you upside the head if you weren’t enthusiastic enough about the new order. The thing is tho every once in awhile you’ll see a Communist on the ballot (sometimes calling themselves something else) but you never see an Anarchist on the ballot.Why is that?

          • gustafson.robert.22 October 18, 2023 at 8:33 pm #

            Make sure to adhere to all 101 Principles of Behavior in your Anarchist’s Handbook.

          • Soul Forensics October 18, 2023 at 10:58 pm #

            “every once in awhile you’ll see a Communist on the ballot (sometimes calling themselves something else) but you never see an Anarchist on the ballot.Why is that?” — BRH

            So they can brag that they’ve never been defeated.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 19, 2023 at 4:04 am #

            Academic? Please. It’s the gist that I already spelled out right here:

            “Hitler, Stalin and other despots of history couldn’t have gotten anywhere without a whole lot of mindless mass complicity, like proverbial lemmings off the cliff.”

            Civ without relative anarchy– without act