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It’s less than a week since the skies over the Negev Desert filled with something eerily like the flying monkeys of Oz upgraded to Hamas Road Warriors in motorized paragliders, kicking off that third world war we’ve been hearing about all our lives, and not at all the way we expected either, which was more Dr. Strangelove style, with the mushroom clouds billowing everywhere — though, who knows, it might come to that, too, before long.
This new catastrophe, quickly globalizing, makes the War in Ukraine seem as comfortable as an old sweater. For now, the question of intel failures must be put aside. There will be no official inquiries while US carrier fleets sail into position, and Hezbollah does a war dance on the northern frontier with Syria, and the Israelis struggle to strategize an extremely sticky hostage predicament, even as their air force blows up whole blocks of Gaza City.
Meanwhile, former Hamas chief Khaled Meshaal has called for a worldwide jihad this very day, Friday the 13th, as it happens, by which he means disruption within the entity known as Western Civ, where Jihad’s most dogged enemies dwell. For years, footloose emigres have been flooding into Europe and across America’s border with Mexico, mostly young men, hardly vetted, the sort of humans most likely to act-out warrior scripts in a zeitgeist gone sour, and I guess we’ll find out pretty soon whether some of them were sent to be activated against us.
The world is periodically subject to a mighty release of tensions. That’s why there are great wars. We’ve been well aware of these tensions building into the new millennium and now here it is. The elaborate systems we’ve allowed to evolve — our gigantic manufacturing and resource supply lines, the financial scaffold that has turned capital formation into a freak show of scams and wishes, the grotesque behemoth governments of a zillion regulatory impulses turning more tyrannically against their own citizens every day — all add up to a general condition of fantastic fragility. So, you see, a global release of tensions is liable to bust up a lot of those arrangements.
Western Civ has been expecting this for a while. All the years of clever work-arounds and kicking cans down the road tells you that. The big question is: can we carry on as before? And anyone with half a brain can see the answer is: probably not. That is, not enjoying the many comforts, conveniences, and luxuries we’ve grown used to, all of which hinge on our energy supplies, enough of which is centered in the Ummah of Islam so that when it is interrupted or cut-off, there goes the cushy life for us. (And let’s note that for many in Western Civ life has already and stealthily turned into a serious struggle lately).
So, whichever way these new events may go, things have changed. There will be more intense conflict over the remaining oil in the Middle East. Europe may finally discover that it does not relish being turned into one big mosque. And the USA is so lost in self mind-fuckery that we can’t even get our House of Representatives in order. The American students (and faculty!) cheerleading for Gaza’s Road Warrior executioners might represent the last stand of Woke derangement. This degenerate nonsense has run its course. It may dawn in our centers-of-learning — and every other collaborating institution — that we have more important things to think about than the etiquette around men who dress-up as women.
One naturally wonders what role the shadowy Globalists have played in the build-up to all this, and how things will go with them. I can imagine Europe plunged into political chaos that would lead to scenes like a mob riding Klaus Schwab out of his Swiss redoubt on a rail, and the German government falling, and Paris on fire, and street-fighting in Stockholm. Chaos is as chaos wantsto do. One thing seems certain: it’ll be a cold winter there for most everybody.
It’s probably safe to say that Mr. Zelensky will not be getting additional bowls of gruel out of Uncle Sam. No one is paying attention to Ukraine now, and that sudden neglect by the once-solicitous NATO alliance could go on indefinitely with wider conflict breaking out elsewhere — meaning that Russia will be left to methodically restore the status quo ante that allowed Ukraine to be a quiet backwater in Russia’s sphere of influence since the end of the previous world war, until our wicked and reckless neocons moved to wreck the joint.
China is the joker in the deck now. There’s plenty of chatter that China’s banking system is toast, with its new and large middle class left holding a giant bag of worthless securities and unsellable real estate, and that when they are sufficiently pissed-off that will be the last round-up for Uncle Xi and his CCP. But then, you can also easily imagine that gang thinking now is the optimum moment to try and grab Taiwan and its riches, with Western Civ all tied up elsewhere. I remind you of China’s “Four Wars” doctrine for bringing us down. There’s Ukraine, now Israel, there’s the internal war of Left versus Right throughout the West, and there’s the massive invasion of Europe and the USA of uninvited mutts. Four wars. The breaking point.
Yet to play out is America’s crisis of leadership. As supply lines break, and the flash mobs loot the luxury shops, and the illegal aliens stream in, and the price of everything goes up-up-up, and the truth about the Covid vaccines is finally grokked, even the dazed-and-confused American public might notice that the White House has become a zombie palace. Politics hates a vacuum and “Joe Biden” begins to look like a black hole that will suck the execrable deep state blob that surrounds him across the event horizon that opens to oblivion. I’d go so far to predict that well before the 2024 election, America will have a new chief executive and that it won’t be Kamala Harris. It could be someone in a uniform, though. Just sayin’. Everything is in flux.
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Great summation, Mr. K. “In flux,” indeed!
the skies over the Negev Desert filled with something eerily like the flying monkeys of Oz upgraded to Hamas Road Warriors in motorized paragliders
Great visual to lead it off!
As far as I can see, there is no real evidence that the paraglider attack occurred or was part of the Oct 7 attack.
Please correct me if I am wrong.
There is video that shows paragliders swarming over a festival, which could have been filmed anywhere, anytime in the last 5 years.
There are no videos that are time-stamped showing certified Hamas members flying in to this particular festival with guns and proceeding to kill people. If there were, we would certainly be seeing them.
There are other videos of middle eastern men with guns trying to fly in them, including one video of a paraglider hitting a power line somewhere and bursting into flames.
It takes months of instruction to learn how to do this, including many tandem flights with an instructor in a double capacity craft.
It seems all too easy to scour the internet for random videos to post along with incendiary captions accusing such and such a group of being these certain people committing this current made-up atrocity.
Any successful marketing campaign needs an iconic image associated with an event or cause that is novel, and memorable.
So now we have the image of a paraglider being used like the silhouette of Che Guevara.
These days, I suspect any in-focus videos with highly-produced, emotional sound tracks, showing heart-rending images of children, bodies, destruction, of being pure propaganda, engineered to get you to think somebody is doing something you should be angry about and send money somewhere.
Yes, somebody is doing something.
They are collecting money and perhaps justifying murder or land grabbing.
Yes we should be angry.
Excellent points all! I must admit, I never even considered that. Watching James Corbett further expound on things as we speak.
https://rumble.com/v3ol22n-james-corbett-on-israels-911-and-the-propaganda-machine.html
There are no videos that are time-stamped showing certified Hamas members flying in to this particular festival with guns and proceeding to kill people.
Your points about marketing and video evidence have me wondering why, in this dumbed down world we live in, they didn’t have the alleged Hamas stormtroopers decked out in those black FBI or DEA-style windbreakers emblazoned with HAMAS in big bold white lettering across the back. Just to make double sure that everyone “gets it.”
Exactly. Marketing.
Same “burned out” cars (all white) in the roadway seem to be imported from Lahaina. Whatever software *they* are using doesn’t do the color part. Or they don’t know how.
Out-of-focus footage or footage that doesn’t show the event it claims but is “evidence” is common despite everyone having a high resolution video camera in their pocket.
Same thing happened with Ukraine but we’re supposed to believe somehow *this time* everything we see and hear in this conflict is above board and legit. Always the case when Israel is involved. You dare not question.
So yeah, I’m angry because I can smell the marketing campaign. Just like all the other events we’ve endured the last few years. Always to appeal to the Boomer Truth Regime we live under.
I remember CNN showing anti-Putin riots in Russia. Yet, somehow all the street signs and shops were covered with Greek writing.
Maybe they broadcast file footage of Greek disorder because CNN is cheap and lazy. But it does shows how devoted they are to presenting truth. Hint: not at all.
“Billionaire” Boomers I think more appropriate. And they have merely taken their turn from “The Greatest Generation” of Boomers which preceded them. You know, the guys who murdered the hope(s) of our generation, especially JFK.
And their ranks have been dutifully refilled by the (your [?]) Techie Wunderkind brethren & minions who now have their own giant piles of lucre and wishes being fulfilled by their “Stay Bought-Bot” Congresscritters.
The truly opportunistic and clever ones have been hightailing it to D.C. (‘North of Richmond’) for generations now, whatever appellation is hung on their generation’s to-be legacy. There used to be “one in every crowd.” Now there are tens of thousands in their hives inside the bzzz, bzzz, bzzz Beltway.
@hmuller:
Well, there’s “dumb” and then there’s “hmuller”:
“The Cyrillic alphabet is closely based on the Greek alphabet, with about a dozen additional letters invented to represent Slavic sounds not found in Greek. ”
Surely you’re aware of that simple & well-known fact, right? Well, aren’t you????
There’s a lot that’s fishy here. Every Israeli settlement, (especially those near Palestinians) is armed to the teeth with small arms. Every settler home has a rifle.
Yet Hamas strolled in and massacred hundreds in their homes?!
I keep hearing they kept their weapons in “armories” but I can’t find anything on that except one item about the woman who was head of security at her settlement went and got their guns and they had no deaths.
Obviously, they make terrible house guests. Didn’t even clean up or flush the toilets when they left, either. Swine! 😉
I was watching what purported to be concert goers’ cell phone footage.
People running around scared, some people bleeding, but you couldn’t tell exactly what was going on.
Granted, I have not seen all the videos out there, I just haven’t seen anything that proves the paraglider story yet.
What I do know if that the sponsors of the concert are expressing their sympathy for the people injured ot killed, and from everything I have seen and read so far, something violent and bad happened.
Yet people cannot muster up any words of condemnation of the acts because of politics in the area it was held in.
That seems to me uniquely sick in the head, that we are being told we need to read history books so we know whether cutting people up is good or bad.
I’d say first of all we need to confirm that all the “truth” we’re hearing about coming out of there actually is. I’m far from convinced.
“but you couldn’t tell exactly what was going on.”
Exactly. It’s by design but go ahead and believe that each time there is some incident cameras don’t work and footage is blurred. Every single time.
If you have an example otherwise I’m all eyes.
Suggesting that “politics” is in the way of acknowledging atrocities is a convenient way to dismiss the questions of legitimacy.
I never suggested politics is in the way of acknowledging atrocities.
These people are saying these attacks did happen, yet they are taking the side of the people they believe did it, claiming justification.
What I am saying is when there are murdered people, and these people are not saying nothing happened to anybody, there is something really wrong with somebody who has zero sympathy for innocent victims, because they studied up and decided the murderers have a legitimate grievance against the government of the country in which the murders took place.
The IRA blew up an infant in a baby carriage. I thought the British government was in the wrong in that conflict.
Did I say, now hold on a minute, what about….?
Of course not. Because I’m not sick in the head like some of these politicized brainwashed partisans.
Agree, Beryl. Watching people cheer on the deaths of Israelis is disgusting. I am avoiding a lot of social media at this time.
But Israel blew the sympathy of many by bombing Gaza.
Unless that also didn’t happen. I read in Simplicus that they actually did not carpet bomb.
The US had the sympathy of the world on 9-11, but their subsequent mass murdering rampage through Afghanistan and the Middle East blew that all to hell.
Russia does it right. No revenge on civilians, no matter what atrocities the Ukie Nazis commit.
The sympathy of the world is with Russia now.
Yes Paula. I don’t know why sympathy has to be entwined with political beliefs.
I also think the proof is required before going off to war, but who needs pictures and a body count to be upset that murders happened?
Russia has killed many civilians. It is inevitable in war.
I remember you blaming the girl for going to get pizza in a pizzeria filled with Ukrainian soldiers.
No, you don’t remember that.
I questioned why 14 y.o. female twins were present in a hotbed of male mercenaries.
You say there were there buying pizza. I say they were the pizza.
Don’t lie.
Where are the photos of the landed paragliders abandoned in the kibbutz or the festival area?
Where are the used parachutes tangled up in the bushes or were they carefully folded up so they could be used again?
Or did they fly them all out again after untangling the damn things? “OK- done killing, now we’ll find the right wind, get somebody to hold the chute in position to get these off the ground again, Allah willing.”
If they did exfiltrate by paraglider, they would be slow-moving, sitting ducks, hanging in the air. No way that was part of the escape plan.
This means they left by vehicle. So how did the vehicles get there? How were several miles of cars torched by paraglider pilots on foot?
Terrorists in Toyota forerunners, guns bristling, is soooo run of the mill anymore and will not inflame passions and anger, unlike co-opting an image of the rich peoples sport!
Earlier in the week I posted how Tracey Beanz (Uncover DC) tagged the video as a training excercise somewhere (I forget where, it’s on their site).
It appears there still are none of the evidence pieces various posters have noted upstream from here.
Let it marinate a while longer, see how it ages in a few more days.
Also, I am of the opinion false flag events are becoming easier to spot because of the frequency and repeat pattern with minor variations.
Certainly a lot is going on, and seems the intelligence agencies were not overtly intellligent at all. Another repeat performance.
Brilliant analysis.
Hollywoodification.
Just like when you watch a movie you’re supposed to suspend a bit of disbelief.
What was the one for Ukraine? Ghost of Kiev. Guess that was kind of like a super hero flick. This was an action movie.
For this event we are supposed to avoid any critical thinking. Not allowed because naturally that might reveal things aren’t exactly what we’ve been told.
Like always.
Tracey Beanz said this video showing Israelis faking footage of deaths is actually from a movie.
VIDEO SHOWING ISRAEL ATTEMPTING TO CREATE FAKE FOOTAGE OF DEATHS
https://x.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1711446867257483677?s=20
The logical plan would be to launch early in the morning, setting course with the sun at your back. Paragliders do not show up on radar, so very few if any sightings would be made for the initial assault.
Each ship would have a passenger who would make a parachute jump above the target. The pilot would then bring the paraglider around and land. As hostages were taken, they would be loaded up onto the waiting paragliders and taken directly into Gaza. The pilots could possibly return with another fighter to repeat the process.
It only takes about 18 days of training, which includes ground school, to learn how to pilot a paraglider or trike. They quickly fold up to a size that fits easily into a garage or trailer. 2 cycle engines with carburetors are little more complicated than a lawn mower. Fabric covered wings are easily repaired with thread and needle. seem like an obvious choice for them…
A visual to end with: Admiral Levine as president.
Is there paragliding porn yet? If not, there will be soon. You know that all over America paragliding is exploding in queries and applications.
Admiral Levine marries President Comacho in a White House ceremony is where that took me. The Hollywood version.
President Camacho would never go gay or tranny.
The beauty of Camacho was his honesty. He liked guns, power, and speaking loudly and stupidly.
I respect that. One knows what one is dealing with.
They are monkeys ,… I read many comments on this string and it appears most of you here are Hamas sympathizers or at least jew haters
I’ll go now and look for better people to comment with,
Thank You Mr. K.. Monday and Friday, the best days of the week.
Man, lib, you need to get out more.
JR: please refrain from posting while being sodomized.
True that.
The “release of tensions” got me to thinking about a giant orgasm happening.
And we’re all getting fucked.
Go away, western Peasant. Go away.
Interesting facts:
The average age of the two million people in Gaza is 18 years.
Very densely populated, 5,500 people per square kilometer as opposed to Israel’s 400 per sq/ kilometer.
The people in Gaza are trapped and have nowhere to go.The slaughter of innocents has just begun.
No way is any of this what it appears to be on the surface. Hang on, this rides fix’in to get bumpy.
Complete and total agreement here, Opie.
This. Nothing happens by chance, and the covid scam and propaganda exercise clearly gave us proles a peek behind the billionaire donor class’s curtain of complete propaganda and control. Unfortunately, not enough people noticed or were willing to accept what their eyes were telling them, so the global charades of “democracy,” war, and finance continue on. All the world’s a stage, as they say.
This time, the government is telling us the truth. Sure.
Agree.
BLM has come out foursquare is support of Hamas. What I wonder is, how many BLM and Antifa are watching the videos of Hamas and thinking “Man, I’d like to try that here – it looks like fun!”.
Too much opportunistic self-interest on this side of the pond. If BLM ever got organized they might be dangerous. Fortunately, that’s not likely to ever happen. But they do looting and rioting just fine. Useful traits for those with a larger agenda.
One look at who financed them leads inevitably to that conclusion, i.e. the masters of mass manipulation.
(Out of the goodness of their widdle hearts, of course.)
A couple years ago I read that the BLM leadership (mostly gay, white people) were busy redirecting Soros’ money into their personal real estate investments. I wonder how the old lizard took that revelation.
I heard yesterday that Patrice Cullors, one of the founders of BLM, left the organization to attend to the 6 multi-million dollar mansions they own.
I love it when Soros’ and the other left-wing donors get fleeced by grifters.
I remember Paul and Ringo doing a benefit concert for Black
Lives Matter. At the height of the George Floyd scam.
And I thought to myself: They lost all their Liverpool street
smarts long, long ago
A lot if not most of that ‘Soros’ money has to be other ways’ sourced. One has to start with who financed Soros out of the gate. Just as they financed Cecil Rhodes on his African exploits in the 19th and 20th centuries.
Another good post from Dave. Damn.
You mean there is a long history to globocap Malthusian faschos? Perhaps we should start focusing on that again?
They would only be dangerous in the blue disarmed states. The red states are armed to the teeth and the vast majority of gun owners regularly practice shooting. Most would love to have any of the various scum attack (blm, antifa, goat herders, blue hairs, whatever); you can never get too much target practice. The will
FAFO.
BLM will never get organized … they are as dumb as liberals. Name one country with black leadership that isn’t a total shit hole. Just one? Anyone … Bueller?
exactly right…
Members of a veterans group I belong to are stocking up on guns and bullets for when the domestic terrorists start. Those of us in New York are fucked, though, since the fucking idiot in the governor’s mansion thinks it’s a good idea to have background checks to buy bullets. And, you can’t buy bullets by mail order in NYS. Bastards care more about invading privacy and creating a database of who owns what than they are with citizens’ safety.
Sounds like a perfectly sane policy to me.
JR: please refrain from posting while being sodomized. Thank you.
Yeah, Jack. All that gun control in Israel worked out really well for those citizens living next to Gaza. And I guess you missed your brother by a different mother getting stabbed to death in New York City. Better to carry six than be carried by six.
You and your veterans group think you’re going to have gun battles in the street with “domestic terrorists”?
Please.
as kid I watched the watts riots–’65 I think–lived outside of watts–my dad worked in watts–they burnt out every business-my town sent cop cars to LA to help out—they came back all shot up but still used them cause that is all they had–as a kid I looked at all that and thought “this is some serious shit”!!–finally the army came in with jeeps and .50 cal machine guns and shot the hell out of everything–my gf was at the harvest festival in Vegas when it got shot up–she helped out til morning to get people out–she was covered in blood–we talked this morning about having to carry everywhere now(a gun)–the is some serious shit
So how many cops did you shoot in Portland? Oh, right. Antifa doesn’t exist.
Such a confusion of a comment and question – where to begin?
Apparently you believe “Antifa” is real? It wasn’t a CIA psy-op just a bunch of homegrown radicals. Ok.
Funny, all I saw was a bunch of skinny losers dressed in black and their rag-tag hangers-on. You know the usual blue haired, gender confused and out-of-shape folks. Sometimes they gathered in the park near my house and I would see them at the the convenience store beforehand to pick up snacks.
I can assure you it was more cos-play than a threat. When the money dried up so did they.
It’s obvious that all those restrictions on your rights to own guns and ammo in commie NY state have angered you and is reinforced by the fact that you can do nothing about it but complain.
Insinuating that the idea I don’t want old guys with guns in the streets means I’m anti-cop is a real stretch. See, I actually lived through a “domestic terror event” for months. It makes you very pro law enforcement if you weren’t already.
Old guys with guns need to stay home and protect themselves.
Guns save people’s lives every day. Please leave Eastern Oregon before it joins with Idaho. You belong in the Valley.
Mocking Uncle Bob’s comment regarding he and his veteran buddies stocking up on ammo doesn’t mean I am anti-gun.
I’m just anti-stupid Boomer statements.
Seems that cowering pussies like jackrabbit and democrat from OR have invaded this board. What gives?
Again, it seems that mocking the idea that Uncle Bob and his veteran buddies are prepping to battle Hamas in the streets of America went over some heads.
Not anti-gun just anti-Boomer fantasies that perpetuate this board. I comment pretty regularly and over the past 4 years so I can assure you Boomer Truth dominates. It’s just tiresome.
So take a little drive to WV Bob, and bring back as much ammo as you damn well please.
Fuck Kathy Hochul and the broom she rode in on.
Wiz,
Drive a little? Why? I, several years ago, gave up ALL my guns and ammunition, so that the world would be a happy place…full of children’s laughter.
The terrorists and ferals will sense my moral power, and will recognize me as harmless…unthreatening, and might even make me a block leader in my neighborhood. Somebody’s gotta do it….
You’ll be among the first to die because you’ll have no form of self-defense.
That’s some deliciously snarky sarc, EF.
“Just a spoonful of sugar makes the medicine go down…” ~ Mary Poppins
Mary Poppins was into some serious occult shit. Although only 9 when the movie came out, I saw that levitating, satanist nanny for what see was.
“she”
What neighborhood? You live out in the sticks?
Muller, the book was even worse. children’s literature of olden times was ghastly.
So, it turns out, the best place to target practice is in a marine environment. No lie, the water has a calming effect on the air above it. When dialing in a zero on a rifle, the calm air above water helps immensely.
After learning this fact for the first time several years ago, I took the family out on a camping trip to a reservoir near our town. We rented a boat for the occasion. We were living in the mountains at the time. We camped in a very remote location with few regulations regarding firearms. It was unlikely we would have any trouble zeroing all of our weapons.
The following day, after eating breakfast, my son and I loaded the boat and went out onto the water. We were having a great time shooting targets and getting more and more accurate with each iteration.
We decided to stop for lunch. As I was pulling sandwiches and drinks out of the cooler, my son noticed the rear of the boat was pretty low in the water. As surprising as this was, we were soon shocked again to notice there was water in the boat! It was coming fast and we had to make a decision quickly!
We jumped into the cold water and swam back for shore. I looked over my shoulder after clearing about 15 yards of distance. It was amazing how quickly the boat was sinking! I watched as the bow gently disappeared into the water.
We made it back to our campsite, coming ashore with shoes still on and head to toe soaking wet. I looked at the area where our boat had sunk and noticed some things like the cooler, some papers and some other loose debris had risen to the surface and now marked the area where the boat had gone under.
Another camper came over in his boat and offered to take us to the area. We jumped on board and searched the lake for what we could find. We didn’t get much. I lost all of my guns in a boating accident…
“What neighborhood? You live out in the sticks?”
BRH,
This is true, but when the sweet, sweet anarchy Zaz is promoting arrives, the neighborhood will expand into a greater Reich…or Oblast, or whatever, and will require…leadership. Leadership, observation and overseers…reports must be made…order must be kept…naysayers rooted out.
https://misterrogers.org/videos/wont-you-be-my-neighbor/
“My arguments in support of self-government, as opposed to society under a state, may have little point, of course: if people do not choose the state, but, as I think, simply have it imposed on them, then it makes no practical difference that the state is unnecessary to solve any particular kind of problem and that life without the state would be superior (Holcombe 2004). Life without cancer would be superior, too, but so far we have not found a way to get rid of it, and we have no guarantee that we ever will find a way, so we can only strive to make the best of a bad situation.” ~ Robert Higgs
Zaz,
With all respect, I would invite Robert Higgs to kiss my big black ass.
There’s a background check when you buy ammo in California.
I buy my ammo in Nevada and Utah.
Miss Demeanor just pointed out that paragliding is not easy to learn.
I’d love to see some BLM members steal a paraglider and try to take a Nike store from the air.
Of course, those 19 untrained Arab hijackers on 9-11 managed to steal airliners and fly them precisely into skyscrapers, so I guess sometimes you don’t need no stinkin’ training.
Re: the first perps: “Splat” is a truly underused word in the English language.
But what you pointed out had me, has me going “splat, splat, splat, splat, splat” when envisioning said aviation corps perps going out on a fly-by / fly-in expedition.
(Augering-in, in pilots’ parlance.)
“I just dropped in, to see what condition my condition was in…” SPLAT!
I’d love to see them try in my neck of the woods. I’d help make them regret it.
Too bad George Washington isn’t available now.
Anyway, many of this country’s people are so fucking stupid that they believe Hamas is completely innocent, that the IDF killed, raped, and/or kidnapped their own citizens to make terrorists who’ve sworn to exterminate world Jewry look bad. Of course, these same dullards also think Ice Cream Joe is a good leader because he (unconstitutionally) promised to vacate their student loan debt. Idiots!
America and Americans who have no blood ties to Israel, owe it no allegiance.
Those who have blood ties to Israel and do feel allegiance to it? in America they have abused their privileges.
Heritage Americans will do well to cast that albatross from their necks. If they choose not to, it’s on them, the world’s hatred.
‘Heritage Americans?’ WTF? Yank this off the latest Stormfront post?
The 90s called, it wants its raceless idealism back.
Would “Founding Stock” please you more, Rabbit Turd?
Probably not. Leftist trolls hate America and those who founded it. Nothing new to see here, folks. Just another communist traitor to the country who should be on death row for treason.
Don’t feed it.
Agreed. The problem is the Protestant, mega-church portion of the Remnant who would step in front of a train to defend Israel, no matter what they do. They are more loyal to Israel than they are to this country, or their God.
Any devout Christian who reads the Bible, particularly Revelation, knows what is supposed to happen to Israel at the last day and who, ultimately, will come save Israel from the world’s wrath.
Just saying….
Those who bless Israel will be blessed, and those who curse Israel will be cursed.
As I’ve said before, Russia and Iran are being distracted by Israel. Things will escalate until Idrael kills most or all of the “Palestinians.”They, Turkey, and their Islamist allies are prophecies to invade Israel, and will be slaughtered by the archangel Michael. A political figure naturally will take credit for Israel’s miraculous win. That’s the springboard for the rise of the Antichrist.
And the remainder will convert after being betrayed by their savior, the Antichrist.
@ Uncle Bob:
Well, actually, Ultra-Orthodox Jews oppose the establlishment of the State of Israel, considering it illegitimate, in that is is anti-Messianic. I think the view is that there can be no Israel without the Messiah (Mosheach). Thus, in this view, if you “bless Israel,” you would be blessing an illegitimate State.
In fact, according to the Midrash, “the people were adjured not to return collectively to the Land of Israel by physical force…. Instead, they were required to wait for the heavenly, complete, miraculous, supernatural, and meta-historical redemption that is totally distinct from the realm of human endeavor.” The link I’m quoting continues, “Unless the Lord build the house, its builders labor in vain; unless the Lord watch over the city, the watchman keeps vigil in vain.”
“Accordingly, any Jewish political revival that is not Messianic intrinsically repressents a denial of divine providence and the hope of redemption; it is a betrayal of the destiny and uniqueness that is Israel…. The attempt…to return by physical power…is a collective revolt against the Kindom of Heaven…. This is an act of the devil, a demonic outburst of unclean forces…. It is ultimately doomed to failure, regardless of human deeds. ‘The Lord shall rebuke you, the Satan who has chosen Jerusalem’ (paraphrasing Zechariah 3:2).”
My right-clich stopped working, but if you want to read the whole argument, google Ultra-Orthodox and Anti-Zionist, by Ravitzky.
Amazing guided by 2000 year old books
@ Uncle Bob:
My point above–for those who quote the Biblical adjuration for nations to “bless Israel”–is that maybe the secular State of Israel as it exists today is not what the Bible was talking about, considering that Ultra-Orthodox Jews believe said state to be “an act of the devil, a demonic outburst of unclean forces.” I am tending to side with the Ultra-Orthodox Jews on this.
Hence, for Christians, support for the State of Israel would be an instance of supporting something illegitimate–and frankly demonic. (I think most State systems are illegitimate and mant are frankly demonic, so there’s that.)
On the other hand, this does not mean one should necessarily support the Palestinians, either.
There are two things going on here. First, we have two groups of people fighting over the ownership of a piece of real estate. These disputes are as old as the human species, if not older. Nothing unusual here at all. Secondly, the reason Gaza exists at all is because it serves the political purposes of both Israel and the surrouding Arab states–as well as the US and who knows who else. If the place and its people were of no political use, it would have been gone decades ago. The Palestinians are everybody elses political football.
My guess is that Gaza will continue to exist and perform its role on the world stage, because this serves the interests of a lot of other people.
RD3, if you would a clearer understanding of Christian support for Israel, I refer you to Chapter 11 of the Book of Romans in the New Testament. Two minutes of your time and you’ll get it.
I’m familiar. What does it mean?
Washington, and later Lincoln, made covenants between America and God, just as the Israelites did at Mt. Sinai. They promised to follow the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, on pain of national annihilation. So yes, we have an obligation to YHWH to do right, whether you like it or not.
Lincoln was an atheist.
Until he came to Christ while in the White House.
No, Christians don’t follow the Old Testament in toto. But only as interpreted through the New Testament.
Jews don’t follow it much either. The most serious follow it as interpreted through the Talmud.
In any case, two very different religions at this point. There is no “Judeo-Christianity”. Jews don’t believe in that, but they sure like it when we do.
Yes. I’m not sure who invented that term, but its a favorite of neocons and phony intellectuals like Mark Levin.
And then we have Israel trying to destroy Temple Mount, one of the three holiest sites in the Muslim faith. My understanding is that Israel intends to build a Jewish temple on the area so that their messiah (the REAL Jewish guy, not the old one) can come to save them. Which is why their calendar year is 5784 and not 2023. This shit goes deep!
I have noticed how Muslims take their faith pretty seriously. Praying five times a day. Practicing Jews seem pretty serious about their faith too with weekly sunset family dinners. But I am pretty sure they only have one day a year for “atonement”.
But “good Christians” follow the words of Jesus Christ when he said, “Pray unceasingly”. Every word, thought and deed should be based on the power of love, not conquest and hate.
Pull out a map of Earth and start sticking push pins into all the areas of war and unrest. My gut feeling is that WW III has started. And considering the art of diplomacy is completely missing in the U.S., I am not feeling very hopeful about the future.
I’ve been told that there is room for both there. The Antichrist will be a political genius and will be able to build it – and then sit in it to be worshiped by many.
He will be a Great Man of Peace – and of War for those who do not submit. The Two Witnesses will defy him in Jerusalem itself. And those who attempt to lay hands on them, they will burn with divine fire. When their work is done, they will lose this ability and they will be put to death.
Is it “israel”, Abby, or those crazy religious Jews who moved from America to Israel?
I remember reading a while back that Israel captured that temple in one of their wars, and then gave it back, as a sign of good faith.
Supposedly, it is those Christians who believe in the return of Jesus who want that temple rebuilt. Now joined by the braided religious nuts of New York.
I don’t pay much attention to religious people and their beliefs, but these particular ones can get us all killed, so if you know more about this, please edify me.
I was listening to a radio talk show on the way in to work this morning. They were interviewing some of those miscreants protesting in favor of the Hamas terrorists. I was shocked by what I heard. Not that the rhetoric they were saying was unexpected, it was as I expected it would be. Rhetoric without knowledge of anything, regurgitations of what they have been told over and over again. No, what shocked me was the difference between the men and women they were interviewing. The men interviewed were just stupid and when confronted on the fact that Hamas is beheading children they seemed to be taken aback. Now the women. The women being interviewed were cold, heartless and unyielding. One woman actually claimed that the jews in Israel brought this upon themselves, even the children.
What has happened to our women? It’s as if evil has taken an even greater hold in their hearts. Aren’t women supposed to be the kinder and more gentler member of the human species? The nurturers? These women were in full support of the horrible atrocities being committed. The men were just plain stupid.
That “beheading babies” trope (tripe) has already run its course. It’s done its damage enough already. Time to catch up on what’s real and what ain’t.
And YOU know what is “real and what ain’t?” Tell me how have you come to this knowledge? Are you in Israel and personally witnessed what was done to the people there? All I can rely upon is the news and blog sites available here on the other side of the world. Where do you go to get your truthful information that the rest of us are not able to find.
So, if you can please point me in the right direction where I can effectively “catch up” on the truth, I would be greatly appreciative.
I’m also very pleased to know that there people out there, such as Dave907 who know what is “real and what ain’t” to correct the rest of us lost souls.
I anxiously await your instruction.
Testy, aincha, CP?
Well, here ya go:
httpx://thegrayzone.com/2023/10/11/beheaded-israeli-babies-settler-wipe-out-palestinian/
More than one source has walked this back, but as Mark Twain said in his apparently inexhaustible observation of the human condition:
“It’s much easier to fool someone than to convince them they’ve been fooled.”
My all-time favorite is “It ain’t what you don’t know that gets you into trouble. It’s what you know for sure that just ain’t so.”
Cankerpuss it was you who asserted what was real, in the form of headless babies.
In traditional argumentation, the burden of proof is on he who makes the assertion, not upon the skeptics who question it.
The “headless babies” claim, at this point, is being regarded Ben Shapiro-tier, which is to say lower than crocodile piss.
Remember the incubator babies from Iraq War the First? It was debunked as comically bad propaganda, custom made for the most gullible people in the world, aka the tv-watching American public.
Are their atrocities in war, of the worst sort? Yes there are, and Israel has burned to a crisp how many Arab babies? But the specific claim of 40 — which number is associated with their black magic btw — 40 headless babies, are to be taken as an actual atrocity, upon the word of journalist?? get real.
And to prove the claim, there’s a picture of dead dog.. and people are still relying on this claim. How much clown world are we gonna get?
Yes, Cankerpuss, those woke, lesbian, Hillary-loving, Marxist bitches the universities turn out will be a cankersore on our society for years. I think their problem is rooted in penis envy, though they’ll vehemently deny it.
No they werevtaking babies put of incubators, wait they bayoneting children…
So you support Hamas, I take it? Do you believe that no children were beheaded by Hamas butchers, no women were raped (sometimes after they were dead), no families were exterminated in their homes, no one was burned alive?
Stop with the putting words in my mouth or attributing actions to me because your blood is up and your reason has departed the room.
This is so typical of a stirred-up mob and precisely what our Owners aim for. Take a chill pill and think on it.
Or, if you like your mood right now, just go for it!
Anyone who doesn’t believe people are capable of such atrocities doesn’t know people. And it’s not as if there is no precedent for this. One thinks of the Slaughter of the Innocents in Herod’s time.
@ tuco:
Nor do they know war. Think of the war in the former Yugoslavia, or even the atrocities in the current Ukraine war. And all the lies and “he-said/she-said.”
Yes, Tuco and Anthea.
We are a capable of the worst.
Hysteria and embellishments for propaganda here, in the rush to catch the attention of the masses? Maybe. But it is clear that hundreds of civilians were killed in cold blood.
Spin it any way you want politically, but that’s a fact. People are ugly, wars uglier.
” One woman actually claimed that the jews in Israel brought this upon themselves, even the children.”
Is that a false statement? Cooping 2M people in a 140sqMile open air prison for 80+ years, whilst just taking their property and land over that time period, does not justify their reaction, but DOES explain it.
It is not a Palestinian issue, it is a one of humanity. The Jews themselves did the same in Warsaw, after only being cooped up for years, not decades.
I don’t find her response cold, but truthful and horrific of what Israel has allowed to fester for all these decades.
It might shock a lot of people to learn that what we call Palestine is actually Israeli land. Gaza and the West Bank are Israeli land. Palestine came about when the Romans shipped off the Jewish survivors of the siege of Jerusalem in 70 AD to the nations within the empire. They even renamed Judea Palestine on their maps. The non-Jewish people who remained thus became “Palestinians.” But there is no such “ethnicity.”
You are correct sir. Thank you for the history.
And read about the savageries the invading Israelis visited upon the peoples of Palestine when they first entered.
In Genesis.
Is there a Jewish ethnicity? Why do they look so very different from each other? Read “The Wandering Who”.
Or Koestler’s “The 13th Tribe” about a nation of Turkic people called the Khazars who entered Judaism.
If your core belief and world view is that you are a “chosen” people by God, there is nothing you can do that can be criticized.
And here we are.
“The Name-Stealers”.
They are just behaving as they were told to behave. They also likely believe it will save them when the front line is at their door.
Women are the more EMOTIONAL sex. As such, they also HATE with greater passion than do men.
Wiz – you nailed it. Passion goes both ways. We’re about the same age I think – experience knows. The best lovers were the ones that would put ’em right on the chopping block if they got pissed.
Yes indeed. The best fucks are the craziest bitches. Great for the short term.
@ Sour Forensics:
You are displaying an attitude towards women that seems to me to be likely to meet with opprobrium. I.e., you do not have honorable intentions in your relations with women, and you are vulgar.
SF – you should have followed my lead – we said the same thing – but I used “chick speak”, and you made the mistake of using “guy speak”. Shame on you.
Now look what you’ve done, SF. Anthea’s gotten her panties in a twist. You are so bad. Work on those intentions, would you?
@ Wizard of the Saddle:
I think we’ve covered the emotionalism of men versus women several times here. Men are actually extremely emotional, it’s just that they have different emotions, the main one being anger. I’ve mentioned before that quite a few men are more or less constantly angry at a low level. You don’t see women suffering from road rage, but this is fairly common in men. Often when I’ve been in the car with a man, his entire conversation consists of bitching about the other drivers on the road. If you go to a Mexican restaurant with them, they bitch because nobody speaks English and then stiff the waiter.
A few months ago, one of our regular posters (I can’t remember who) here shared a story in which he was at a restaurant and observed a young family with two children, whom he viewed as a couple of brats. THEN he related that he followed them out to the parking lot and was enraged because the wife got in the back seat with the kids.
With men, there often seems to be a constantly simmering low level of anger (erupting from time to time). I’ve learned to largely ignore it, if I don’t have to be around them very often. I think this mostly goes unacknowledged simply because it is so constant that it becomes background noise.
Honestly, I sometimes wonder if men’s mental stability has gone downhill over the past few decades. Road rage used to be unheard-of. If a man had displayed this–or a tendency to stalk young families in restaurants–in 1955, his family would probably have considered committing him.
Of course I do often talk with men who appear to be perfectly well balanced mentally. Perhaps the nut-jobs are over-represented here.
@Cankerpuss
“What has happened to our women? It’s as if evil has taken an even greater hold in their hearts. Aren’t women supposed to be the kinder and more gentler member of the human species? The nurturers? These women were in full support of the horrible atrocities being committed”
Women’s hearts have been hardened by 50 years of murdering THEIR OWN babies before birth.
Think of what kind of mind-fuckery has to happen to destroy in human mothers the most basic instinct there is in nature: the instinct of a mother to protect her young.
Women who’ve had abortions either repent of what they did, accepting God’s forgiveness, which enables them to grow and move on,
OR,
they have to get very hard-hearted, as a psychological defense mechanism. (The tragic irony is that the psyche, in its effort to defend itself, actually gets warped and pathological.)
I have seen some women after abortion get very, very hard indeed. Even terrifying.
Kinder and more gentler? To each other? To Men? Talk to some divorce lawyers.
Yes, to children and to animals. At least the children they don’t abort as inconvenient.
If you’re fine with abortion, you’re going to be fine with cutting off children’s heads. They often abort children by doing that.
Not that it necessarily happened in this case of course.
Cnn sez: Babies decapitated.
Ergo, babies decapitated.
Remember how the gov & media lied about covid & the jabs?
Assume that everything that comes from the gov & media is a lie until proven otherwise, & work backwards from there.
Good secondary sources? Read articles & comments, & *follow links*:
Moon of Alabama.com
Simplicius substack
John Helmer “Dances with Bears”
Here are some clues:
* Early on Israel funded & nurtured Hamas as a counter balance to the PLO.
* A couple years ago Israel voted to make it a 100% Jewish state. They have stated outright their intent to take over all of Palestine & eliminate all Palestinian “animals.”.
*This uprising has united Israel’s fractured government behind Netanyahu jit to rescue him from his crimes.
*It now is being used to (try to) ethnically cleanse Palestine of Palestinians. They have just flooded northern Palestine with flyers ordering them to evacuate south.
Consider this: drive people off their land, jam them into a tightly packed, open air concentration camp, & trap them there. Respond to any attempt to break free, let alone get their stolen land back, with indiscriminate, mass bombing of women, children, civilians. What do you expect 4 generations down the road? WIth double the population of Maine locked into an area 5 miles x 15 miles?
Look at the “tense” areas around the world. See when & how they became countries, & you’ll find fractured communities shoehorned together into artificial countries made up of rival groups, mostly around/post WW2.
Neocons quoted as admitting in writing to the deliberate creation & stoking of “controlled chaos” to leave civilians scrambling while their resources are stolen.
Btw, did you know that not too many years ago, oil was discovered off the coast of the Gaza strip? 60% of which belongs to the Palestinian people?
That’s mostly natural gas off Gaza and Israel, Lebanon and Egypt. Nonetheless, that offshore-Gaza platform has been shut down today “in anticipation.”
Another item of interest germane to your post, mary.m. The average age of Gazan residents is 18 years.
Show me the evidence of Hamas ‘beheading babies”?
Doesn’t exist
Your post ably illustrates MSM propaganda has ensnared yet another gullible citizen.
“while US Carrier Fleets sail into position”, where they shall become nutrient dense artificial reefs.
“nutrient dense artificial reefs.”
Berries…
Nice construct.
Thanks Elysianfield, You have a keen eye for the obscure and a twisted sense of humor – I like that!
You, sir, are on it. You covered so many of my concerns. I think the amount of contrivance surrounding the events of October 6 will be established, the remand of the one million subject to involuntary if not impossible Exodus seems a cherry on the sundae to me, but like so much else, it is in the reserve of speculation.
Trust in machinations of governments anywhere at this time is folly, especially as the strategic moves of the powerful are engendered by the driving force of desperation.
Out of the park, Jim. Your voice, your sagacity is humming, firing on all 12 cylinders. I for one, am very grateful to be within earshot.
Hey Jim, if I see you in the next life, I’ll say hi.
I hate how this latest flare-up of an intractable religious/ethnic conflict has everybody going full retard in the face of the Mighty Wurlitzer.
I miss the pre-George H. W. Bush years, when the general American public had a long respite from the war pigs’ mating calls. After 41, we got nonstop, in-your-face propaganda . . . every time the Rand people felt their billions thinning out. Fuck ’em all. In the neck.
Billfolds is what I meant, but billions works just as well.
Are they? The people against war, the many, are not accounted for, instead they are censored and drowned out by the deep state propaganda mediums insisting that we are untited for more war.
Carlson has it right, but the knives came out for him in no time.
No one can stand against Rupert and the boys, because the name Murdoch > *.
Ho, I mean how, are we going to do that?
If you insist on being literal about it, go ahead and try. Lemme know how it turned out!
Beth – see about 20+ comments down. Can’t understand sometimes how they drop so far down.
The American taxpayer has been conscripted into supplying arms for the entire world. Isn’t it ironic that the US gov is trying to disarm the American taxpayer? Our arms have ended up in the hands of both sides in every conflict on the planet.
Interesting you used ‘conscription.’
It’s a word that will soon enough be full frontal in our consciousness in the days ahead. Beginning now. Or rather, it has already begun its way to national prominence once again after so many decades of slumber..
That “debate” will truly be epic!
Imagine the government conscripting antifa and blm freaks. Not going to happen. Rather, the 5 million military aged illegals will be the willing recruits who will be used domestically against gun owners and internationally for the ‘rules based order’.
Without conscription how can you get the populace to pay attention? Truth be known, the MIC can fight wars without grunts, like they did in Lahaina but that doesn’t appear to be the agenda here. Maybe it’s time to thin the reproductive age population of the U.S. or at least get that cohort vaxxed with the latest bioweapon which will serve the same purpose.
Lets turn on the teevee to see which side we are supposed to root for now.
Exactly.
Unfortunately many of the comments this morning seem to be coming from those who get everything through that prism.
Parroting back all the talking points and jousting with others to be the most passionate and caring about this never ending conflict.
Hear-Hear!
I’ve already been sucked into the maw of intemperance and boiling blood and it’s something I want no part of. The old
“Yer either FOR us, or AGIN’ us!”
Humans…
These same people will come back here in a few years, provided it exists, and post about what a mistake it was supporting the march to WW3.
They are the same imbeciles who believed in yeloow cake, weapons of mass destruction, and Syrian chemical weapons.
They only have hindsight. And their foresight is from their hinds.
Seems like I’ve already told the story here about how I went to a night class the evening of 9/11, where I was the only woman in the class, and all the guys were literally jumping up and down and jumping on chairs and yelling in their glee to go to war.
Some commented on my comment to the effect that they did not believe me. (I think we’re back to the “Nobody’s that stupid” trope. Um…. They are.)
And women have ruthlessly selected for this kind of man for ages and ages. Go getters. Those who make everyday life into war. Driving. The Economy!
Accountability is feminine kryptonite.
@ Jarek:
Well, we know that women didn’t select for Jarek. Odd that you’re not extinct.
So we have to give up the 2nd Amendment to prove that we don’t want to go to war for Israel?
Well said. More amazing is how $13 trillion dollars and untold destruction in Ukraine has literally disappeared from the news. Ukraine? Never heard of it.
$9 billion in weapons so conveniently left behind during the bug-out from Afghanistan, have mysteriously arrived in Syria and are being used in Israel. Wait…what? How did that happen? (rhetorical)
And as Mr. JK pointed out, no one is running the govt in Washington. No speaker of the house and the govt is only funded until mid-November. Yikes.
Heard a great analogy today, apropos for Friday the 13th.
“Someone has poured gasoline over the Mideast and they are throwing lit matches”. What could possibly go wrong?
Liber8or
“More amazing is how $13 trillion dollars and untold destruction in Ukraine has literally disappeared from the news. Ukraine? Never heard of it.”
And Ukraine, in turn, distracted everyone from their friends, relatives, coworkers, athletes and celebrities dropping dead “suddenly and unexpectedly.”
Anthony Fauci is still walking around, a free man. Think he would be so if people didn’t have some pretty major distractions from all the deaths and permanent disabilities happening all.around them to young, healthy people?
Sad for the people who got Ukraine tattooed on their faces. Or who took in refugees. Their duty is to now kick them out on the street!
Well, if we’re on the ‘memory-holed’ bandwagon, just look how easily they got away with Sept 10th 2001’s “Pentagon Missing $2.3 Trillion” (which a Reuters ‘fact check’ team only recently declaimed as “fake news” in an article dated September 15, 2023…)
Now why would they bother after all of this time? The fact remains the missile plowed right through the offices of the Pentagon’s Inspectors General Investigation offices on the very next day, and C-Span shows Rumsfeld stating on Sept 10, 2001 precisely what he said back then.
What I originally intended to impart was how that $2.3 trillion had morphed into some $20 trillion some years (post Afghanistan and Iraq invasions) and no resolution of either number has ever been proudly held up by some Pentagon official saying “See! We figured it out!” Or, “We caught the perps!”
I have a book written by an ex-military pilot jock called “The Big Bamboozle” which dug deeply into so much of what surrounded the events of 9/11 2001 and he did it well. Well-researched and foot-noted, it got wide acclaim from the Truther community.
At the time—around 2010—a well-respected airline pilot of many years, his second book on the topic was in print, his regular career assured, and well-respected by his fellow pilots, he decided to murder his kids and kill himself.
Because, isn’t that what most normal, successful people do…? Some would even call it a Patriot Act.
megabeth, you remind me of an ongoing gag in Gore Vidal’s novel DULUTH where he mentions the award of “the Wurlitzer Prize”.
His contempt for the “profession” of journalism was unbounded. Actually, his contempt for most everything was outpouring.
Waylon Jennings recorded a song called “The Wurlitzer Prize.” Is the song a reference to the novel, or is the novel referencing the song?
Looks like the song was released in 1977, not sure when it was written. The novel came out in 1983, not sure when it was written. Maybe its just a coincidence.
He was ferocious against the Trotskyites turned “Conservative Americans” too.
One of them asked what he was working on at a party. He said a Civil War novel. The guy exploded saying, Why are you interested in all that?
Vidal realized that for them, America began with their entrance via Ellis Island. They would never be interested in the Brothers War, our Homeric Epic – or anything else that happened before they arrived.
I’m so provincial . . . checked _Duluth_ out of the library and quit reading after 30 pages, or so. Gore Vidal was such a sour old girl.
Yes, Vidal hated everything and everyone. Supporting one’s position by referring to Vidal’s identical take is as easy as getting an A in university.
Yes, Vidal hated everything and everyone. Supporting one’s position by referring to Vidal’s identical take is as easy as getting an A in university.
Cynicism is cheap. It comes easily to people at every IQ and intellectual level.
Gore Vidal often came off as a clever scold, especially in his later years. But to give him his due, he usually made cynicism entertaining, and that is an accomplishment.
“Fuck ’em all. In the neck.” ~ megabeth
Beth – I haven’t stopped laughing about this since reading it yesterday morning.
You are rugged, heartless, and I mean that as the highest form of compliment. You are awesome, a “take-no-prisoners” kind of gal.
When it gets down to it – of course the teams will be coed – I want you on my side!
About three years ago I proposed a limited sitcom. Having worked in media for decades, it wasn’t difficult to make my pitch nor was it my first pitch.
I proposed a show based loosely on Hogan’s Heroes except instead of Germans, it would be Russians holding American POWs.
The premise of the show was this: The Russians have a special POW camp for the gender fluid – gays, lesbians, trannys, cross-dressers, etc. Since the Russians won’t give them the necessary hormones, the men are reverting back to women and the women are reverting back to being men and everything in between.
My pitch was shot down because no one could even conceive that such a thing was possible yet, here we are. When we go to war with Russia we will be sending in soldiers that MUST have their hormones or go stark raving mad. Guess where those hormones come from?
Should Israel go to war, here’s hoping they don’t find that their fit as a fiddle soldiers have developed a lot of heart problems.
Which poison were they injected with?
There is a video of Netanyahu proudly describing how he volunteered his country to serve as a petri dish for Pfizer.
Bourla is a Tribe member. They got saline.
Couldn’t resist eh Beryl inserting some vax hysteria? Jeezus, move on to a different weirdo hobby horse.
Beryl’s a smart gal – critical thinker. Sounds like she hit a nerve this morning?
You are:
1. one hard-hearted son of a bitch,
OR,
2. so isolated from human contact that you don’t have anyone in your life who has suffered or died from those damn shots,
OR,
3. just lucky, and everyone you know happened to get placebo shots.
Whatever the case, have a little normal human decency and consideration for those of us who have suffered tragedy because of those damned shots.
Beryl’s a hardened Feminist, both a pro-abort and one who wishes America was never founded.
Projection is a terrible thing.
Jarek. Why do you do the things you do?
What did I say that isn’t true? You’re pro-abortion, yet against the violence that was necessary to found the United States.
Ron is possessed by the archetype of the White Knight or Protector of Women. He is a massive projector. You like men protecting you – even when you are wrong. All women do.
Jarek honestly, I have no idea what you are on about.
You want to psychoanalyze people?
YOU push people away. How’s that?
JR: please refrain from posting while being sodomized. Thank you.
jackrabbit; you have no training or knowledge of immunology to make judgements about the rapidly developed, and shown by many peer reviewed studies to be dangerous, mRNA ‘vaccines.’ You only repeat pfizer’s statements of safely. I’ll bet you don’t even know what the m in mRNA really stand for per the pfizer and moderna documents. Get some training in immunology and ID and then come back and talk.
Thank you! As a nurse, I could just puke on the next self-appointed expert who tells me I’m irresponsible or stupid for not plumping for the experimental injections . . . especially for such a survivable infection. I’m tired of being told that I must poison myself as some social sacrament. Twice, now, traditional vaccines have lit up Graves’ disease, disfiguring my eyes the second time.
Jackrabbit can have all my COVID “vaccines” and boosters.
Keep trying neuro…keep trying….
jackassrabbit: ‘keeping on trying’ to do what. Expose an uneducated fool that thinks it knows and doesn’t know shit about medicine or anything related to immunology or vaccines. JHK needs to purge the paid shills from the site.
Soldier-boys didn’t get the saline solution? That’s a wonder.
Israel? Probably got saline
US? They certainly got the poison
I think they’ve suffered a lot of vaccine injuries.
It wouldn’t be much of a test tube if they gave them all saline. They wanted a test case, something large but not too large. Israel was perfect because of its compliant population – a high trust society. The people thought they could trust their government. May they learn otherwise.
Ed Dowd stated recently that they have not yet analyzed the data on Israel, or it’s incomplete or something. We should have information on that fairly soon, I would think.
There was a long video in 2020 recording devastating symptoms of those who took the jabs, and one section was filled with Israelis’ personal testimonies and tragedies. Scary, heartbreaking, maddening. They certainly didn’t escape it.
Heartbreaking narratives:
hXXps://www.vaxtestimonies.org/en/
Israel pushed the vax hard on both civilians and soldiers.
Beryl, do you think Hamas’ actions last Saturday were rational or irrational? If irrational, then Israel could end it quickly. If the Hamas’ actions were rational, then it is a trap for Israel.
Would not the Palestinians know that 5,000 missiles and rockets fired would do great harm to Israel? And that harm would trigger a disproportionate response?
What is waiting for the IDF inside the Gaza Strip?
I like your idea, Nickelthrower.
But in real life, I think the trannies are excused from combat service.
Yes they are; excused from combat service, overseas duty, & PT.
Why do the armed forces keep them around? What good are they? What function do they serve?
Paula- I read that if they are receiving hormones, they are exempt from sit-ups and push-ups. Did you see the picture of the fat male officer in the blue dress with ribbons?
Yes, stunning and brave, he is.
The reason they are “excused” is that they must have their medications or go raving mad.
All of this came about back when I learned that the military was going to pay for transitioning. I was having a conversation with a fellow army officer that I did ROTC with and we were trying to figure out how many days we’d let someone go without their medications before disarming them.
I know a few people that have transitioned and any interruption in the hormones makes them go insane.
As many a menopausal woman can attest. (Don’t bother, Jarek. I just supplied your response for you in my crazed, menopausal head)
Umm, the pituitary gland of missing children?
You know how we have 2 kidneys, right? You can lose one and survive.
I’ve taken this next bit from the Cleveland Clinic:
“Can you live without a pituitary gland?
You can live without your pituitary gland as long as you take medication to replace the pituitary hormones that you’re missing. The pituitary gland hormones are very important for maintaining several bodily functions. An untreated lack of all the pituitary hormones is life-threatening.”
Next part is from pubmed:
“The transition age is the period between childhood to adulthood; it refers to a broad set of physical, cognitive and sociocultural modifications, arbitrarily defined as starting in late puberty and ending with full adult maturation. Pituitary disorders in adolescence represent a challenge that requires careful management during the transition to adult care.”
TINA. Zombie apocalypse is part of the reset.
Might want to nip this in the bud before too much time passes:
” Chaos is as chaos want to do.” ….is as chaos is wont to do.”
And re-reading this, I can see that I stepped too soon into the breech. Apologies if so.
BLM coming out in support of Hamas is causing quite a bit of consternation in the Jews I know who were good liberal supporters of BLM up to now. The old “lie down with dogs, get up with fleas” adage comes to mind.
Naomi Wolfe is going to explain that to us at some point.
“Most US Jews are Democrats, and are liberals, for important historical reasons that I will explain another time. But they have had such strong allies for Israel in US Presidents, for all of the decades past, I think many of us forgot the fragility of Jewish survival. I think that these scenes of violence in the Jewish state will cause a wave of buyers’ remorse among liberal American Jews, who will rethink what it means for the world, including for the Jewish state, for America to be seen globally as weak; as an untrustworthy and unreliable ally; what it means for Jews and for the Jewish state for America to be led by a senile (sorry, but it must finally be said) puppet of China.”
https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/please-calm-down
The Khazarian Mafia claims to represent the Jewish people and their interests. Yet they readily sacrifice Jewish lives for their agenda, as they did in WW 2
“Politics hates a vacuum and ‘Joe Biden’ begins to look like a black hole that will suck the execrable deep state blob that surrounds him across the event horizon that opens to oblivion.”
That is how to write. Rhetorical Gold. Thanks, as always, Mr. Kunstler, for your linguistic mastery and wit.
Thank you again for your insights Jim!
Like the ancient Hebrew prophets, you have consistently warned Americans of the judgment to come. Your fellow Americans, also like the Hebrews, ignored the prophets’ warnings until the foreign armies showed up at the gates.
I hope that history is kinder to America than it was to ancient Israel and Judah. My hope is to live long enough to see the end of this particular phase of the drama (Neil Howe says 2033).
Neil Howe, despite being one of the authors, seems limited in his vision. He mainly focuses on finance.
Neil Howe is a dishonest fool.
Read Revelation 17 and 18 for America’s future, my man.
“I’d go so far to predict . . .”
Please don’t, Jim. At this point I’d rather see a called third strike than yet another swing-and-a-miss.
HA!! Well-played John K.
JR: please refrain from posting while being sodomized. Thank you.
If this sodomy response fails to work, try a hasenpfeffer recipe, next.
“It could be someone in a uniform, though. Just sayin’.”
A Franco-character perhaps? I can dream.
RD3 is exhibit 1 million illustrating how JHK’s followers have changed over the last 5-10 years. At one time there were quite thoughtful followers….now we see people wishing military murderous dictatorships upon us.
Did your wife come home covered in spray tan and special sauce again last night?
We readers appreciate you being honest with your amoral idiocy.
You didn’t answer the question.
JR: please refrain from posting while being sodomized. Thank you.
Lol!
We already have a murderous dictatorship.
Somebody clearly doesn’t understand sarcasm. And it isn’t me.
BTW, how can one be a “thoughtful follower”? I thought “followers” are also known as “mind-numbed robots” (as said of Limbaugh’s listeners), “deplorables” (as Lady MacDeath called blue-collar Trump voters), and “having an extra chromosome” (as Al Gore said of Dubya voters)? So it’s possible that these people can be thoughtful? Or are you just saying that those who follow the Democrat Party’s horseshit talking points if the day are “thoughtful,” but anyone with a different opinion is stupid and has no right to his/her worldview?
Not us – just communists like yourself.
JR: please refrain from posting while being sodomized. Thank you.
Colonels. Young colonels. Not sold-out compromised the way it demands to get stars.
Young Turks, so to speak.
But they will have to have family members kidnapped, shot or killed first. Or at least hungry. That will take a while.
Did you ever ponder the idea that the “West Point System” of educating our military leaders was created precisely so they become hollow men and not classically-educated leaders, like Franco?
The Pointers I know are indeed obedient dogs. Even the foreigners. No one questions anything.
If you cut off the best and the brightest from the legacy of Western Civilization and you don’t teach them Latin or Greek, and you remove Christianity from their education, you can’t possibly expect to get any sort of leader of men. What you get is deracinated, indoctrinated, feminized, yes-men. In other words, they get what they want.
Both my kids are Academy grads. They are squared away. So are their friends from the Academy. I won’t buy what you are trying to sell.
Are they classically educated? Can they parse Latin and Greek?
@RD3
The job of the service academies is to provide leadership to the Armed Forces. The Air Force academy receives about 40,000 applications per year. It accepts about a 1,000 cadets. In the past, physical fitness had been a requisite for the applicant. Highly competitive. Latin and Greek? The Air Force academy is not a monastery. You can get an undergraduate degree in Physics or History, but it is going to be a B.S. degree, not a B.A. everybody takes Physics, Calculus, Chemistry, etc. It is required.
Christianity? The Chapel is the centerpiece of the campus.
Hollow men? My older son is a pilot for a legacy airline. The younger one is a M.D.
They can’t possibly fit your definition of hollow men. Nor T.S. Eliot’s.
Knock it off. You’re getting Admiral Levine.
The goyim have been sold out “six ways to sunday”.
Only one thing for you to do now, goy.
Get a few more boosters and prepare for the “last roundup”.
“ For now, the question of intel failures must be put aside.”
Whenever I hear the MSM push the phrase “intelligence failure,” I assume it is spoken in reference to an intelligence operation. Regardless, there will be no inquiries.
Question to time is over, it’s Go Time. All assets on the dance floor shaking their money makers. Anyone with a weak heart – get out.
Order from chaos, right?
There can be no questioning! They are victims! babies were murdered! Somewhere, someone saw it.. Blinken maybe saw it… Biden thoughthe saw it, doesn’t matter… babies, babies, um, we have to kill em’all!
Millions of babies are murdered every year, nobody seems to care about that. It’s all evil. Everywhere. The world has turned to death worshipping and no longer values life. Nothing matters. Just death. Men have lost their masculinity and now let the women in their lives rule over them. Women have lost their love and have become cold and evil abandoning and rebelling against their true nature. The children being raised in this environment are soulless ghouls bathing themselves in murderous entertainment and hate.
We have only just seen the beginning of very dark times.
May God remember that there are still many good people living in this world.
Who’s the religious poster on here that’s been telling us to expect something mega-big in October? She’s definitely looking prophetic now.
It’s Anmariwakaranai.
She actually called today, 10/13. We’ll see how it shakes out.
She’s been giving dates for years. Never apologizes after she’s wrong. A Catholic cultist.
She said the other day that God had a Jewish son. She believes that literally. No wonder the Semites (both groups) consider us idolaters.
for jarek…r u referring to Ann B?
Remember the musical, Ani? Daddy Warbucks referred to Warberg.
This.
Nicki says, End them!
As one of the Neo-Cons said anent Mecca, Why wait?
Bay Bees!
All this, and world war, and… insanity.
Nothing exposes the latent malevolence of our kind than “the fog of war”.
The latent tyrannical tendencies.
Protests banned. Opinions banned. Blacklists formed.
Bill Ackman wants to blacklist students who support Palestine.
One by one, other master-of-the-corporate-universe “like”, “thums-up” and support this suggestion.
Tucker Carlson questions Amaerica’s (continued) interest in any wars in Israel and Palestine and right on cue, the squeky voiced neocon masquerading as alt-conservative, Ben Shapiro, is there to attack him. This is the charlatan who does not hide his Israel-first leanings, who regularly visits, interviews, and cavorts with Netanyahu.
Over in France, they have banned pro-Palestine demonstrations. Going so far as to use water cannons (like 60’s era fire hoses) on protesters.
Canada is outlawing support. Same in the UK. No critique of Israel is allowed.
We have the “never go full retard” full neocon Nikki Haley telling Israel to “finish them!” “Finish them!” like the creepy voice in Mortal Kombat games. If the camera panned-in on suddenly developed red hued serpentine eyes I wouldn’t bat a lash.
We have Lindsey Graham, no children, no skin in the game, telling everyone to “bomb Iran”. Yes, bomb Iran. Start WW3.
The people in power, and at the top, have lost their minds.
Even the alleged alternative news Citizen Free Press has gone full neocon. Rabidly so. Totally consumed by the revenge virus.
People should also be disgusted by all the loss of life to be suffered by more non-combatitants, on both sides. On the innocents who will surely be targeted by missiles, bombs, and random attacks of terror.
People who critique continued war, continued attacks of attrocity should be allowed to express and explain themselves.
There should be recrimination and disgust for people who support the callous murder, kidnapping, rape, and assault on innocent civilians. Let there be no doubt. Let them out themselves. Question their motives and logic.
But that does not mean that people should be silenced, censored, and prohibited from expressing their opinions.
That does not mean the opposing side, the Israelis, should be permitted carte blanche to continue their degradations against the Palestinian people with starvation, thirst, and annhilation against mostly innocents and poor cheered-on and unequivocally supported.
Yet here we are marching in to another “globalist” trap.
Look how easy we allow our opinions to be silenced. Our intellectuals to be shamed. Our young people banned and blacklisted. Look how we are forced to march lockstep to our demise. In a foreign country, in a far away land. Bceause of money and undue influence, and because of hate, revenge, and sinister plotting.
People can dislike BLM, Antifa, the student groups, etc., but perhaps they are on to something, perhaps they unwittingly stumbled on to perceiving the big fascist picture that too many of the unthinking classes are getting consumed by.
Nah, they want you divided. They want you in on their wars.
Lindsey Graham says “we” are in a religious war.
What does Lindsey know about anything holy?
Other than, as someone said, John McCain is controlling him from Hell?
John McCain is controlling him from Hell and the Elites are likely controlling him with some footage from a bathhouse.
Let the desert religious extremists do their desert-religious-extremist thing.
That’s cute, but you and you society are irrevocably tethered to one side.
Your money, your materiel and your young people are being drawn in.
Without consent or questioning.
Yeah. I hate that and have always opposed it.
i.e…defund Israel.
The USA is bankrupt. 33 trillion in the hole. Collapsing economy. Inflation. The time is coming where the desert-religious-extremist will have free reign to do their thing. Israel will stand alone just as the Bible has prophesied.
Good thing then they got nukes.
They won’t be giving them up like the Afrikaners in SA did; you see where that got ’em.sa
Yes, it seems to me that if the US collapses, Israel is fucked.
BRH – who was that insider-joker who claimed that Euro-capitals were targeted for nuclear attack, in case Tel Aviv should happen to be wiped from the map?
I daresay the various cowardly leaders of the EU factor that in when formulating policy.
Nice summary 100th. Agreed, let the people think, and then let them freely express their opinions, whether we want to hear them or not. Let’s try to backpedal to some semblance of freedom.
“Science says” that hearing opposing opinions does no harm.
Putin must step in and say No. Iran is part of the great Alliance of the Sane People of the World and any attack against it is an attack against all of them.
A blind jackrabbit with normalcy bias is soon a coyote’s dinner.
Ooohhh….tell us more rainmaker….
You seem to react like a vampire to holy water anytime someone states a simple truth.
Who TF are you.and WTF is eating at you?
Rabbits… a favorite meal. On the list right after roadrunners.
Normalcy bias is rampant out there. I was a manager (OK, “fourth assistant”) in a hurricane shelter where fully one third of the people in there couldn’t comprehend that they’d just been run over by Katrina. They were all mentally shut down, whining about needing a clean shirt or some other trivial item. If something awful hits us on a nationwide scale, one where there isn’t outside help on the way with food and water and FEMA trailers, I don’t expect that third of people to make it.
I don’t know, I thought I was inured to this by now, but so, so many people unable to express any disapproval of the slaughter of innocent people, babies even; or to mange any sympathy for the victims, without bringing politics into it-
It’s almost as if they don’t know they are doing it.
If our structural actions continue to cheapen human life, the realistic impulse for humanitarian idealism will continue shrinking, and logically.
Human life has already been cheapened. I fear the generation being raised in such a society where death, violence and evil is the focus of all in power. The time is short. Things are coming to a point.
You’re being triggered intentionally.
Amen. Amen. Amen, DA
That people continue to wander lost while thinking they truly know what is going on and exactly where they stand. They cannot see the intentional fog that surrounds them.
Because it was designed that way and is continually refined toward that end.
It’s worthy of the best Twilight Zone episodes ever; Rod Serling had something to teach us, but far from everybody got the underlying message.
I think it’s time to drag out Carlin’s “The Big Club” again. Judging by so many people’s thoughts on here today especially—it’s lightbulb time.
Performed in 2005 (yet they sleep on…)
Now comes the test of “You can lead a horse to water, but…”
“It’s a Big Club—and YOU ain’t in it!”
httpx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYJgvGUi2Og
The full special: “Life is Worth Losing”
httpx://videa.hu/videok/film-animacio/george-carlin-life-is-worth-tYWGpKZcf8A9AoSJ
Re “The American students (and faculty!) cheerleading for Gaza’s Road Warrior executioners might represent the last stand of Woke derangement.”
I think you have got this exactly backward.
You got it right when you note that the advocates of open borders might be having second thoughts.
But these two views do not compute, since in both cases you call out the woke.
Those with a genuine interest in understanding the background to the current breakout of Hamas, the supposed intel failure, the domestic political tensions within Israel that have a huge effect on the buildup to and timing of this counterattack, and the reole of the USA in enabling the Israelis to think they can now eradicate the Paliestinians can do no better than to watch this discussion with Alastair Crooke i nits entirety:
httpX://rumble.com/v3okn3w-extremist-politics-in-israel-and-ukraine-alastair-crooke-alexander-mercouri.html
The idea of labeling as “animals” 2.5 million people who have been confined in a 125-square-mile concentration camp—located on what was their land—for 25 years is absurd.
Those who label Hamas “animals” should recall Operation Cast Lead, the Peace march to the Gaza Fence, among other atrocities perpetrated on Palestinian civilians and also the relative numbers of Palestinian vs. Israeli civilians who have been lost their lives in this ongoing illegal occupation and of Palestinians land and totalitarian control and abuse of civilians. .
Two opposed groups of overbreeding humans trying to occupy the same plot of land was never going to end well.
inbreeding. Fixed that.
Yes.
No, overbreeding is the correct term.
I’m gonna call animals animals no matter what some others did to someone else some other time.
Why are people confined on their land, and how does that make murdering partygoers okay?
Nobody is saying it is OK.
Why are so many so obtuse?
You think this attrocity was born from nothing?
Because when you call people an animal, you insinuate that they are acting on instinct and not motives and some logic, twisted or not.
You either do not have the capacity nor the inclination to delve into that. So you simply call them animals and no explanations are needed.
There is no justification for murdering innocents but if you familiarized yourself with the attrocities and degradations and destruction of Palestinian society you might learn what desperate and cornered people are capable of.
Brush up lightweight.
Animals = thought stopper. Lack of empathy.
There rarely is much thought coming from that barrel anyway.
Empathy for murderers who killed children?
Believing it didn’t happen is one thing, but believing it did but they may have had good reasons is quite another.
Beryl, you are an expert in putting word in other’s mouths.
Nobody said “good”, but I trust you are too much enjoying the air on your (false) moralistic high-horse.
Again, you’re not a serious person, not worth the time.
Oh, so having reasons is enough, they don’t have to be good ones.
What does “Animals = thought stopper. Lack of empathy” mean, then?
Who am I supposed to be empathizing with?
Calling the people who did this animals is not calling 2.5 million people animals.
Maybe Beryl wants to be on the winning side on this one?
B, the people who died are collaterals. Do you have any sympathy for the millions of German civilians who were beaten, shot, or raped to death?
jarek what “side” would that be? Do you think people who went to a peae love and understanding party ending up dead is unworthy of sympathy?
Did I have sympathy for people who died in a war that was over before I was born?
That kind of peace is that of cabbages – and it leads to the peace of death.
Real life means both war and peace. Don’t conflate the peace of Life or God, with the relative peace of life/death.
“Animals.” The ultimate word in dehumanization, which always presages slaughter.
Hey dimwit, how does murdering partygoers help the people of Gaza?
How does it make anything even-steven?
Anybody who murders children is a barbarian savage beast.
Oh, you read a book, so they have good reasons?
What are you even TALKING about?
All killers have motives.
@ Beryl of Oyl:
Well, it seems to me that, since murdering party-goers does not help the people of Gaza–or their cause–then that was not the reason for it. Ergo, someone other than the people of Gaza (assuming they’re not nuts) decided to take this action for reasons of their own. It’s hard to hazard a guess as to who or why. Seems everybody in the Middle East wants to kill somebody else in the Middle East–and elsewhere, if they get the chance–so it could be any number of state actors, for any number of reasons. The most obvious one, though, is that someone would like to start a war over there. It also looks like someone would like to draw the US into war over there.
I don’t agree with you very often, 100, but I agree with you on this one – and well-written too, I must say.
[Except for the name-calling directed at BoO. That ain’t right.]
“Why are people confined on their land, and how does that make murdering partygoers okay?”
This has to be one of the silliest (I’m being nice) comments I have ever seen on CFN.
How about “confined to their open-air concentration camp in the traditional fashions.
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(Cue Third Reich; Stalag 17).
Jesus.
How does that make murdering partygoers okay?
Why doesn’t Egypt want them crossing their border freely and how does that justify murdering partygoers in Israel?
The silliest comments I have seen on here are from people who thought wearing a rag over their nose did something positive for their health.
Total jumble.
Take a nap to reboot your brain.
How does that justify murdering partygoers? Is that simple enough for you?
Oh wait. Maybe they didn’t teach you that in your decolonization classes.
Animals cannot do evil.
Calling the worst of us “animals” is an insult to animals.
Glad you posted this:
httpX://rumble.com/v3okn3w-extremist-politics-in-israel-and-ukraine-alastair-crooke-alexander-mercouri.html
I did the same in Monday’s episode, too few remain aware of it. Hopefully that will be rectified.
It IS that important!
Nailed it. If the Chinese invade us, treat us as animals, take our land, confine us to certain areas and exterminate us do we take it??? The jews are doing to the Palestinians exactly what we did to the American Indians and what Hitler did to them. Human nature at it’s finest. And while I am at it, fuck all your religions, my belief in the Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy are the one true religion.
What about Festivus?
I think Festivus is secular. 😉
Do you think the Chinese will set up vast reserves for us and allow us to rake in millions with casinos and tax free smokes?
Vast reserves??? Ever see a map of the tribal areas before we stole it from them? You sound misinformed.
Conquered people are rarely treated as magnanimously as the Indians were treated.
Islander was for a One State solution. Probably still is.
Lavrov has vetoed this and has come out for a two state solution. He is full of sanity, not hatred.
My sympathies are clear, but I’m not blinded by them. A two state solution is the answer. They should have been given the West Bank a long time ago.
“Islander was for a One State solution. Probably still is. ”
No.
There has been general consensus that a two-state solution is no longer possible because of the Israelis’ delaying actions while simultaneously promoting populating the West Bank with Jews via illegal settlements. Now to the tune of over 750,000 people.
Thus there is no more land for a Palestinian state. Hence the general transformation of thought regarding the future of Israel.
However, the increasingly open and official espousal in Israel of apartheid, attacks on Palestinians in Israel proper, enhrinement in the constitution of Israel as a Jewish ethnic state have also confounded those who hoped for some kind of actual democracy in Israel for all.
The Israelis prefer the genocide option.
I hope that answers your latest MUS action.
“attacks on Palestinians in Israel proper”
should read
“Palestinians in Israel proper who live in Israel and are Israeli citizens, plus the spitting etc. on Palestinian Christians and other Christians . . . “
Lavrov is for a two state solution – not your genocidal one state solution where the Palis take it all.
What happened to you?
“This degenerate nonsense has run its course.”
There are some signs of this happening: the Bud Lite and Star Wars debacles, declining woke college enrollment, a few others. Still, I think the more dim-witted will have to miss meals before they realize they’ve reached this milestone. We’re all going to take some pain before this crap turns around – if it ever does.
I only hope to see the better times on the other side of this crisis. I hope there *will* be some better times.
At least more people are aware of what this “decolonization” shit they are talking about actually is.
Maybe Harvard students who study it aren’t, maybe they are just mouthing back words their professor told them to say, for an easy A.
I read that some of them are saying they didn’t actually read the thing they signed.
I also read that some of them using the excuse of not having read it before they put their name to it are law students.
I’ll just let that sink in.
My husband and I just saw a movie called The Ghosts of Mars. It’s about a mining colony on Mars that accidentally releases a previously imprisoned penal colony of aliens (in “spiritual form”) that possess the miners and cause them to start killing others that haven’t been possessed. That’s what all this reminds me of.
The “aliens” were fighting against what they considered the “colonizers.”
Sounds like Haiti
This ‘Colonizers’ bullsh#t basically a hate Western Civ screed.
Notice that none of the scholars up at Harvard complaining about ‘Colonizers’ are moving to the Congo, Borneo or East Timor after they graduate.
“Notice that none of the scholars up at Harvard complaining about ‘Colonizers’ are moving to the Congo, Borneo or East Timor after they graduate.”
Second prize in the Silliest comment category.
Why do you think they should?
Anyway, the topic is Israel, not the Congo.
You missed the larger point by BRH. Any thinking person knows why they won’t. Because any country run by Blacks is filled with violence, chaos, economic ruination, and racial hatred against Whites.
But those professors treat the ‘colonizers’ as the problem. “Without them, the indigenous populations would thrive!” Perhaps picking up a non-inflammatory history book would help you.
There ya go! Fighting for Israel will make men out of them!
Yesterday they wanted them to be women or at least simps. Now they want them to be men. What next? Dogs?
Bookended. They hate that they lost control of the left but at least they have the right. And the vertical and horizontal.
Let’s resettle all from Gaza to NYC.
Do it for Israel.
That would be fun.
Let’s put them in Crown Height, Brooklyn, and see what happens.
I like it. NYC is well on its way to becoming a huge open air concentration camp in any case. Why not add the Palis to the mix? Let them camp out on Broadway for some living theatre.
Aren’t there already more Palestinians out in the rest of the world than in Palestine?
It’s similar to Ukraine in that regard.
Yeah, the two situations are just the same.
Third Prize.
“Similar” means “just the same” to you?
There may be more Somali doctors in Chicago than in Somalia. I find that interesting.
Probably because there are more Somalis in Chicago than in Somalia.
hi there. been reading JK’s pieces for a few years but first time posting.
interesting event this AM:
A friend of my wife just called her and asked if she (wife) would go with her to a gun shop for pistol.
this woman, lovely person, is liberal as hell. would have taken my guns last year no doubt. progress? panic?
btw–Thanks, Jim K for your truly artistic writing.
“this woman, lovely person, is liberal as hell”
Sounds like she just listened to the TeeVee to tell her to be very, very scared because roaming bands of bad guys from the middle east were going to materialize in her hometown to get her.
She’s just a typical unthinking follower-type. Did she get a booster on the way to the gun shop?
People like that are likely to hurt themselves or someone they did not intend to hurt if they acquire a gun.
Why?
JimJin- Liberals buying guns puts a stake in the heart of gun control! Yeah!
Their end game with this is bombing and destroying the oil infrastructure in Iran. They want control of Russian energy too, but couldn’t topple Putin. The strategy is to starve China of energy to retain hegemony,.
There’s no way Israel didn’t know what was coming from Gaza.
Your vision is true. Keep following it!
Just like Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Iranians have dug in very deeply. The return blow from them will be terrible. Putin must give them his most advanced weaponry if he hasn’t done so already.
Those who thought Western Civ’s “out” from Ukraine was going to be welcomed, think again.
Tractorguy:
“BLM coming out in support of Hamas is causing quite a bit of consternation in the Jews I know who were good liberal supporters of BLM up to now. The old “lie down with dogs, get up with fleas” adage comes to mind.”
Yes, Israel has always been the mote of illogic and cognitive dissonance in US progressives’ and liberals’ eyes. Especially since the Jewish State has *openly* proclaimed apartheid, ethnic cleansing, and genocidal as official state policies, enshrined in law.
Now “Biden” is going full monte for the same agenda. The old fool.
I don’t know why JHK suddenly seems to be aligning himself with “Biden.” Oh, and with Zelensky, too!!! By default. Quite a tour de force of squaring the circle.
Jewish Americans would do well to understand that the dynamics of internal Israeli politics are far more conflicted than generally ever gets out to “the West,” and per Crooke this is the decisive context for the Hamas action at this time. Also the reason that Hezbollah stands at the ready.
For this reason alone all should pay attention to the “intel” on the growth of the Israeli right and its plans, provided by Alastair Crooke.
We have of course seen a few “dots” relating to these developments—for instance, the controversy over the Israeli Supreme Court—but Crooke provides many additional dots and connects them with other internal and external factors.
It is amazing to me how many intelligent people fall back on the mental crutch of assuming that peoples of the ME (and the Balkans, of course) are atavisticly irrational.
Netanyahu, the more-or-less, dictator of Israel has been doing anything and eveything to ensure his reign. Dodging lawsuits, investigations, and even going so far to detail his machinations to dismantle the Israeli courts.
This man has never hid or shied away from his desires to eliminate the Palestinian people through settlement, expansion, starvation, demonetization, or war.
Suddenly an opportunity prsented itself. Intelligence was ignored. A matrix of security and intelligence failed. Patrols, military, and police suddenly disappeared. Voila.
It is amazing to me how many intelligent people fall back on the mental crutch of assuming that peoples of the ME (and the Balkans, of course) are atavisticly irrational.
Because, “animals.”
Crook’s main thrust was how atavistic irrationality has played major current roles in both conflicts: racism in Uke, Zionism in Israel.
Actual animals are much more rational.
No, I’m saying each side views the other as mere “animals.” But you’re right, better that both sides actually were a little more like animals.
Except Russia has been operating on the expressed “Slav brotherhood” premise since long before this outbreak of hostilities.
A thing that makes Ukrainian troops much more disposed to surrender to Russian forces.
The same can’t be said for the self-proclaimed but biologically (DNA) untrue fantasies of the deluded Übermenschen of western Ukraine.
There Russian POWs have been subject to crazed deprivations from being castrated, kneecapped, killed while bound and on the ground.
The usual demonic playground of the possessed.
Chimps kill chimps. And Lions, lions. Do you want me to explain why? Competition for scarce resources, be it game or females.
All very rational. Humans doing the same are equally rational. Will you please be rational too?
This is the world you want. You have to take the unpleasant with the pleasant.
Male Lions kill the cubs (babies!) of the females they wish to impregnate. They want their seed to prosper, not another’s, O Gustaph!
Morality is above such rationality, if you would but accept it to be so.
None of these animals has yet embarked on the irrational growth-orgy humans have, creating scarcities that are artificial, not natural.
Would animals do it if they had the opportunity humans have had? Probably, most.
So, more rational than humans by default only…by accident, but still..
Animals want “more”. Human animals want “more”. We’re better at it cuz of our big brain. That’s it! They’re not morally superior to us.
Cats torture their prey and often don’t even both to eat it since they aren’t hungry. Dolphins kill purpoises for fun. Killer Whales play with Dolphins, using them as beach balls, even unto injury and death.
Your attempt to project morality onto animals is like what Whites do to other races. God, what a brilliant insight, eh?
Humpbacks protect other species against Killer Whales. How does that help them? It’s a serious risk I’d say. Even Nature rises above itself at times. Human nature is much better than Nature – at least at its best. Much worse at its worse.
@ gustafson:
It is well known that animals reproduce to the point that the resources in their territory are exhausted: population overshoot followed by die-off. When there are too many rabbits in an area, they eat up all the available food and are either forced into a new territory, or they attract high numbers of predators, or both. (Female rabbits in overcrowded conditions resorb gestating baby rabbits. Some animals eat their young in times of scarcity.)
When the predators move in to eat the surplus rabbits, their population expands. After they’ve eaten up all the surplus rabbits, they too suffer overshoot and die-off. This stuff is cyclical. Happens all the time.
Speaking of wild animals, in Alberta a … Grizzly Bear ate a couple of hikers and their dog last week.
At nearly the same time in Florida a homeless woman was eaten by an alligator. Just coincidence?
Thank you both for agreeing.
I just said above that pretty much all animals would probably do what humans have done (global-scale overshoot) IF GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY,
but they have not had that opportunity. Still, they haven’t done it. We have.
My actual, technical position is relative moral equality among all animals (humans too). You can both relax now, maybe.
Jarek and Anthea, that is.
“Chimps kill chimps. And Lions, lions. Do you want me to explain why? Competition for scarce resources, be it game or females.
All very rational.” — Jarek
“Man is irrational not because he fucks and kills, but because he thinks he needs to invent reasons for doing so.”
— Irving Layton
male bears will kill cubs.
“Crook’s main thrust was how atavistic irrationality has played major current roles in both conflicts: racism in Uke, Zionism in Israel.’
Crook didn’t use the word “atavistic.”
He spoke of the depth of commitment to the third most important religious symbol to all of Islam I suppose that religious feeling might be labeled “atavistic,” but that was not what I meant when I used that word.
I was referring to the tendency of Westerners to assume, regarding conflicts they don’t understand or have actually fanned, that the protagonists “just hate each for no reason in that part of the worl.”
That certainly is not true for Palestine. Everyone got along pretty well under the Ottomans. The trouble started with the shattering of the Ottoman Empire and teh simultaneous appearance of increasingly aggressive Zionists.
Regarding the Al Aqsa mosque, how about if someone decided to blow up Notre Dame, the Vatican, or St. John’s Cathedral in NYC in order to build a mosque on the site.
When the Muslims conquered Constantinople, they did not destroy the Aiya Sophia, one of the greatest symbols of Christendom. They just declared that is was now a mosque. . . .
Yes.
I would call the far-right Zionism he talks about, that must have Al-Aqsa and sovereignty over historic Judean territory, damn any consequences… atavistic.
But, if Israel were taking territory out of rational, correctly strategic self-interest motives, I wouldn’t call it that at all.
It’s not that animals are rational, it’s that they are incapable of doing evil. Even a cat torturing a mouse cannot know evil.
We are animals too, eating, fornicating, defecating, but it is an accepted convention to not call ourselves that. We are animals with symbols and morals, fully capable of evil.
Some animals are capable of good, none of evil.
“Paris on fire” Paris has been burning since that Algerian car thief was shot by cops last spring. In fact all of France was on fire; flames have been dampened but the fire is still smouldering.
“Street fighting in Stockholm” The Prime Minister just last week called in the Army to battle competing Arab/African gangs engaging in open gun battles on the streets.
And what’s propping up the UK? The political elite, including elected officials, the BBC, and the Church of England, appear to have turned against the British people themselves.
My prediction:
Tomorrow a great darkness will befall the land of the “Great Satan”.
Who wants to bet against me?
Tomorrow?
Eclipse…
Eclipses are common events. They happen all the time.
I always like that tune.
Speaking of colonizers, some of us colonizers are having fun with our new status.
Maybe not as much fun as the Montgomery Brawl. BTW, there is a LOT of revisionist history surrounding that day online already.
I don’t know if people who aren’t signed on to twitter (X) can read the comments to this:
“White people greet each other as Colonizer, or my Brother in Colonizing, to express camaraderie. It is a fraught term with shifting contextual semantic content.”
https://twitter.com/CityBureaucrat/status/1711801405713871342
A few coldblooded comments:
1. Hamas was voted into power, just like Hitler. The United States had no problem with firebombing Dresden and Hamburg, creating a firestorm by design that incinerated the residents. That is the frame of mind of Israel, which has at least warned the residents to flee an area about to be reduced to rubble. Israel is past door-to-door fighting to save its hostages.
2. When people chant “Kill the Jews!” and dance in the streets, then, when they are smacked hard, say, “Feel sorry for us. We are such warm and sensitive people,” that is classic psychopathic behavior. They need to be called on it and advised that Israel’s mental health treatment capacity is limited and preoccupied at the moment.
Hamas was created by the Israelis.
^^ 100th A’s Word be true.^^
timesofisrael*dot*com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/#:~:text=According%20to%20various%20reports%2C%20Netanyahu,West%20Bank%20and%20Hamas%20in
“According to various reports, Netanyahu made a similar point at a Likud faction meeting in early 2019, when he was quoted as saying that those who oppose a Palestinian state should support the transfer of funds to Gaza, because maintaining the separation between the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza would prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.”
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu defended Israel’s regular allowing of Qatari funds to be transferred into Gaza, saying it is part of a broader strategy to keep Hamas and the Palestinian Authority separate, a source in Monday’s Likud faction meeting said.
The prime minister also said that, “whoever is against a Palestinian state should be for” transferring the funds to Gaza, because maintaining a separation between the PA in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza helps prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.
And Harvard was created by Christians to prepare men for the preaching of the Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ.
And look at it now.
Yeah imagine if Cotton Mather showed up today? He’d be denounced as a ‘White Supremacist’ & escorted off campus by security.
The new Harvard President is a woman from that well known bastion of scholarship & higher learning ~ Haiti.
Yes, things change and how. The Democrats of today are not for White rights much less White supremacy. Quite the opposite. Yet still so called right wingers bring this up to show that “Democrats are the real racists!”.
Yes, Hamas was voted into power—“power,” as in democratic elections. Except that they never were accorded the fruits of their electoral win.
The comparison with Hitler is off-base. More like what happened to Hitler’s opponents after the Machtergreifung. So, please do get your facts straight.
And while we’re on the “terrorism” theme, let’s recall that the State of Israel was midwifed by terror—there was nothing remotely “democratic” about it.
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Back to Hamas. Retrieved from the memory hole, some “intel” on what happened in the election of 2006:
“DE-DEMONIZE HAMAS AND SUPPORT DEMOCRACY
By John V. Whitbeck
If one views the world through the eyes of Israeli and Western governments and media, one is likely to believe that the primary obstacle to Middle East peace has for the past several years been Fatah’s failure to “dismantle the infrastructure of terror” and has now become Hamas’ desire for the “destruction of Israel”.
A greater obstacle may be the failure to question what, if anything, such catch phrases actually mean and to move beyond them to rational thought.
What does “dismantling the infrastructure of terror” mean? What “infrastructure”? Roads? Bridges? Office buildings? Given the distinctly personal and low-tech nature of the acts characterized as “terror” in the Palestinian context, “dismantling the infrastructure of terror” sounds rather like tearing arms and legs off people.
It was not surprising that Israel and the West never sought to be precise about what they had in mind, since the objective of insisting that negotiations could not be resumed until the “infrastructure of terror” was dismantled was never to stimulate any conceivable action on the Palestinian side but, rather, to justify inaction on the Israeli side — the avoidance of negotiations, which Ariel Sharon, with his unilateralist proclivities, was determined to avoid while building walls and fixing “permanent borders” as he saw fit.
What was surprising was that the former Palestinian leadership did not point out the absurdity of this demand, choosing instead to issue public assurances that it would love to do so and would when it could, thereby implicitly accepting the Israeli and Western argument that the Palestinians, uniquely, have no right to resist occupation — reason enough (even if there were no others) for them to be voted out of office.
Now that Hamas’s smashing election victory has rendered “dismantling the infrastructure of terror” moot, it appears that the “destruction of Israel” (already recited in the Western media virtually as though it formed part of Hamas’ name) will become the new catch phrase used to justify avoiding negotiations or even “talks”, as well as Israel’s withholding of Palestinian customs revenues, the West’s withholding of financial aid for Palestinian subsistence under occupation and a concerted effort to make the Palestinian people regret their flirtation with democracy and starve them into submission.
It is therefore worth asking, early on, what wishing for the “destruction of Israel” actually means. The country’s land surface sinking beneath the waters of the Mediterranean? Not likely. All Israelis being “pushed into the sea”? Neither likely nor practical. The end of the current settler-colonial state structure, which discriminates, both in law and in practice, in favor of the immigrant ethnic group and against those members of the indigenous population who have not already been ethnically cleansed?
People may in good faith believe that such state structures are a good thing and deserve to endure (or, uniquely, to endure in this one instance), but is it really “beyond the pale” to believe otherwise — particularly if one belongs to the people whose homeland has been conquered and occupied? Is anyone who believes that the transformation of the Arab land of Palestine into the Jewish state of Israel, necessarily involving the dispossession and dispersal of the Palestinian people, represents a great injustice that should be rectified, by virtue of so believing, so morally debased that they should not even be spoken with?
When the South African liberation movement called for the replacement of their country’s settler-colonial, white-supremicist state structure by a fully democratic state, free of any form of discrimination based on race, religion or national origin and with equal rights for all who live there, this was not characterized as advocating the “destruction of South Africa” — except by the apartheid regime itself.. . .
. . .
Israel and the West appear to be gearing up to punish the Palestinian people for having achieved the Arab world’s first peaceful change of government through a genuinely democratic election (a truly breathtaking achievement), recycling the old mantra that “we will never talk with terrorists” (“never” having historically meant “until we wish to do so”).
If Israel and the West were genuinely interested in peace, it would surely be wiser and more constructive to preemptively de-demonize Hamas (as the PLO was de-demonized when finally deemed convenient), to draw some enlightening conclusions from its election victory and to try, through engagement, to encourage it to adapt its aspirations and its quest for justice in a more positive and universally acceptable direction.”
John V. Whitbeck [is] an international lawyer
This reads like poor AI composition.
But in fact Whites have been ruthlessly discriminated against and South Africa is being destroyed.
The Whites should have held out for a two state solution. They could have used nukes, for God’s sake! Either by their own power or maybe gotten a few from Israel. They could have shown those uppities what for, eh?
They love themselves and hate their enemies. They know how confused Whites are so they play for their sympathy. Whites love their enemies and hate themselves. Such people are for sale and hire, and not long for this world.
Yes it’s undignified on their part, but such me firsters don’t let dignity get in the way of survival. But much of the time, your typical Arab has much dignity – as Western travelers have noticed repeatedly.
“But much of the time, your typical Arab has much dignity”
Generalization. I’ve been ripped off by them on kif deals and other undignified swindles and lies during my brief interactions with them way back then.
Yes, others showed more quality. The ones without much contact with foreigners and travelers, living in villages no different from 1000 years ago especially. Still untainted by the madness of euros and dollars to be gotten from the tourists, not yet crazed by the French women topless on their beaches as the muezzin called for modesty, and a million other clashes with a system of thought utterly alien to them.
Case by case. Cannot generalize. Same w the Joos, the Mexicans, the Americans: some very good, some very bad, most somewhere in the middle, in mediocrity.
You cannot “generalize”. In other words, you are not allowed to think.
That Ashkenazi Jews are the smartest people on Earth is also a generalization. Not every one of them is smart. I’ve met a few dumb ones even. But generally – they are quite smart. Not smarter than me of course (on average!).
This is a generalization they agree with whole heartedly btw.
A middle-aged aquaintance received a text the other day.
It was an alleged reservist recruiter explaining that recruitmant to the reserves was open to those up to the age of 42 (he is older than that).
Why would recruiters be sending cold texts to make recruitment numbers, now?
Imagine going thru basic training at 42. The oldest guy in my company was 30 and he seemed like an old man to us. (We were 18-20)
This is the Way. This is National Socialism. Will you not learn from the Elder Brothers?
Virginia School Board Member Opposes Moment Of Silence For Victims Of Hamas Attack
https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-school-board-member-opposes-moment-of-silence-for-victims-of-hamas-attack
“She disparaged the idea of “humanizing” the 1300 Israelis murdered by Hamas, saying, “We often sympathize with and humanize the side that we relate to, the side that looks more like us which our biases guide us towards.”
Up here at the elite Universities — Yale, Harvard, Dartmouth — & even at State U’s like UCONN & UMASS, pampered, entitled students have gone balls-in for this ‘Day of Jihad’. Some are calling it the Day of Rage.’ Metaphorically speaking, that is. Lots of chanting, holding up signs marching in circles; no actual Brownshirt street action like smashing windows in Jewish owned businesses or forcing people to sew a star onto their jackets for identification … yet.
As is their right.
“no actual Brownshirt street action like smashing windows in Jewish owned businesses or forcing people to sew a star onto their jackets for identification … yet.’
Get a grip, BRH.
It’s the Zionist Jews who are manning the concentration camp this time.
Welcome to the 21st century.
What concentration camps?
Gaza was a “gift’ to create a homeland for the Palestinian zealots in a deal to buy peace with Land. The Israelis are learning a tough lesson, that they can give all kinds of “homeland” to the Palestinians and they will just use it as a new avenue to hit Israel with.
How many times has Israel struck first over the decades? How many times has it been attacked by religious zealots.
If the Muslims just went about their business and stopped trying to clobber Israel, how much warfare would happen?
It is time for Israel to stop being a conciliator with these Islamic groups, under US tutoring, and defend itself with all its has got.
The Palestinians have worn out their “poor widdle me” credo. Time to go.
A gift. To the people who lived there.
John, your understanding is so embarrassingly wrong and simplistic.
Go over there.
Go volunteer your lame diseased ass, and put your money where your mouth is.
Pussy-hawks. Too many of them
“Gaza was a “gift’ to create a homeland for the Palestinian zealots in a deal to buy peace with Land. The Israelis are learning a tough lesson, that they can give all kinds of “homeland” to the Palestinians and they will just use it as a new avenue to hit Israel with.”
Oh, Gawd.
You are a total embarrassment to this blog.
Islander you’ve reached the name-calling stage. I’m not impressed.
I think it’s queer that some people can’t bring themselves to express sympathy for politically incorrect victims.
That’s all.
You can’t fix stupid.
Try as Mitch might with Jaz.
You get the English to gift you a homeland, and then you get the U.S. and NATO to pacify (exterminate) the neighbors.
You have Europe relax its borders and force them to take “refugees” from the pacification /expansion.
People wonder why the Wolfowitz doctrine was so easily realized.
Low info Americans, low agency Euros.
Islander, no. You really haven’t informed yourself about the camps of WW2 if you compare what they were, what happened there, to today’s situation in Israel.
Show me the ovens, show me the officers making the selektion of who can work and die slowly and who gets murdered right off the trains.
Etc.
I get it that you hate Israel. No excuse to be historically inaccurate. What happened in S Africa has more in common with it. Didn’t go well in the end. Failed state now, very dangerous for the minority Whites, a lunatic asylum. Many Arab countries are like that too.’
Israel has a 50% chance of losing this thing, I think. If it does, we’ll see just another failed state… from the river to the sea.
Rulo,
“Islander, no. You really haven’t informed yourself about the camps of WW2 if you compare what they were, what happened there, to today’s situation in Israel.”
Of, fer chrissakes.
It is not I who have coined the “open-air concentration camp” comparison.
Of coiurse it is not exact. But it is cose enough to get people’s attention for the horror of life in Gaza, in particular the lack of food, health care. total confinement, and uncertainty as to whether one’s home will be bombed on any particularly.
BTW, you need to get your facts straight.
Concentration camp was a camp for concentrating people in one place. Only later did some camps become death camps and labor camps, or a combo of same.
You are in the wrong spot, instructing me on concentration camps.
I’ll leave it a that.
And by the way, I don’t “hate Israel.”
But don’t hate Palestinians.
I hate what Israel has become and what it has done Palestinians.
I used to be a great admirer of Israel
Until I started to inform myself of the actual history and pay attention to the distortions Israel First-ism has introduced into supposedly “domestic” politics everywhere. Including of course the USA. .
BRH hates who they tell him to hate. Except himself. He pretends that it’s not them who started the campaign of Anti-White hatred.
They say in East Germany the most ardent Stasi members were former Nazi functionaries. They swung both ways you might say.
There were many false Party members – just as there are many false Christians, Marxists, Conservatives, etc.
Who say?
Come on.
The mentally weakest among us (and most unsuited to power) seek power, wherever and however they can get it.
This plays out even on this forum.
“The mentally weakest among us (and most unsuited to power) seek power, wherever and however they can get it.”
That’s precisely why republics and democracies don’t work very well and have short lifespans. But nothing succeeds like failure, and failure is no success at all.
Yeah, Ground. They say the cream rises to the top, but shit also floats when enough hot air is concentrated within.
😀
“We often sympathize with and humanize the side that we relate to, the side that looks more like us which our biases guide us towards.””
That statement is not “disparaging” the 1300 Israelis murdered by Hamas. Can’t you read?
Actually her statement is quite true.
In fact, you are a Exhibit A.
Look at the total lack of “humanizing” the thousands of Palestinians who have been murdered over the years, including thousands of children.
She’s disparaging the people who sympathize with slaughtered innocents.
That “look like us” commie claptrap in there should have been a tipoff.
I “try” to humanize the dead humans?
Oh my God.
Who says I look more like the victims than the murderers?
I submit it is a natural human reaction to sympathize with the murder victims over the killers.
We are talking about the people who were just killed, and you are full of whattaboutism for people who you don’t know and don’t know what I did or didn’t think about them.
Enter the rational
youtu*dot*be/xUTUL1IKFl8?si=k24k93YOzuDk-k7-
Unless somebody is getting ready to evolve, it’s all meaningless. Evolution was always at war with devolution.
Good old Gonga. Tell them what the Green Agenda did to Sri Lanka.
Iran wants their prisoners back. Sleepy Joe welched on the deal and refroze the $6 billion he released to buy the detainees freedom. “Haha fooled ’em again,” says Blinky.
Well, could it be that a big incentive to grab hostages from Israel and the US may have been created by buying off the Iranians?
Possibly Fake news.
Alastair Crooke is extensively quoted in Moon of Alabama today, explaining the split within Israel that fuels Hamas’s sense of urgency to strike when it did.
httpX://www.moonofalabama.org/
What do you think of Comrade Paula calling the Palestinians, “grifters”?
Why ask me?
No dumb go-round with you.
I have nothing to do with paula.
Dumb shit.
You are very upset with Paula. I am too – but for different reasons.
I am not upset with Paula.
Dumb shit.
I’m 77 years old, a Vietnam Era Veteran, a Desert Storm Veteran and I can tell you this is all a game. It only hurts little people. As a college student, I watched young boys and girls always take the side of the loser since they thought it might help. When they got their draft notice, it changed their minds. When people spit on them as they returned from Vietnam, it changed their minds. As I look back, the Vietnam War, Desert Storm, Operation Iraqi Freedom, and Afghanistan were all a waste of money, time and precious lives. Where do we stand today with regards to these wars? It’s all money folks. Do some research on General Smedley Butler, War is a Racket. Israel isn’t clean on this escapade. There’s some great property to be occupied. The U.S. has a great history of keeping the economy going with wars enriching government officials and keeping the Military Industrial Complex running.
As far as the folks from the Middle East go, well, there are of a different culture. They will never ever accept our way of life. They need to live within their own borders. We need a wall between them and us. After 911 our lives have been miserable with the Patriot Act. We needed that according to George W. Do you see a pattern? The more of these folks that come in, the more freedoms we lose.
Will there be WWIII? I hope not. Sadly, we got a lot of covering up to do and do quickly. This latest BREAKING ALERT has removed the focus.
The Powers to Be Do Not Worry About You or how comfortable you are today.
As Americans, we need to do some serious soul searching. Don’t make fun of those who are out buying a gun today. They may be the one that protects your sorry ass tomorrow. Just think if the Israelis had guns in their homes last week.
Many of you have grown up in a safe and secure environment. As an old guy, I’ve learned that life can be turned upside down in a day.
Bullitt
Agreye 100%. Wag the Dog by the government is what has shaped the foreign policy since WW2.
The MIC keeps this country going, economically. It has enabled the Deep State to take control and the totalitarian state to develop that we are witnessing today.
An observation. The US has provoked, yes provoked a war every twenty years or so since its inception. Is this Wag the Dog? It is possible that the USA cannot hold itself together as a union without a war to “unify” it? Are we seeing the result of not having a war to depend on right now as we watch the country splinter and become more violent? Could be!!!!
Many posters here decry US incursions into the affairs of other nations like Iraq, Vietnam, Libya, Ukraine, etc., and consider US actions in these cases to be evil and even terroristic in that they caused needless death and suffering on horrific scales only to serve the elites and the MIC, and they are right to do so.
So, what many here seem to agree on is that on too many occasions we have been the Great Satan, the wolf in sheep’s clothing, the purveyor of chaos and mayhem across the world. But what about Israel and the Palestinians, why support our support of Israel if we are so debased, so vicious and so venal?
Israel has been oppressing and suppressing the Palestinians for decades, and they’re sick and tired of being the chained up, beaten dog. Protests break out on college campuses, speaking out against the Israeli subjugation and humiliation of the Palestinians and, as above, they are right to do so. You say they’re supporting terrorists? Well, maybe they’re just against that Great Satan mentioned above and its Israeli pit bull always ready for the Palestinian jugular.
What about the ‘terrorism’ of Macron who banned protesters supporting the Palestinians? What about Obama-Biden’s border policy allowing the US to be invaded by many possible terrorists? What about the terror of gun violence and the concatenation of drug cartels all across America? What about the ‘terrorism’ of our current government? You don’t like it, but you will go along with its support of Netanyahu and his Palestinian pulverizers.
Here’s the Swamy who makes some good points:
Ramaswamy accused Republicans of having “selective moral outrage” at the terrorist attacks by Hamas in Israel, and claimed that some who advocate a more forceful military response are swayed by financial incentives.
“The selective nature of ignoring certain other conflicts—while even more importantly ignoring the interests of the U.S. right here at home—is what irritates the heck out of me, out of the politicians in both parties,” he told the former Fox News host on Monday, providing the armed conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan as one example.
“It is shameful, and I think that there are, frankly, financial and corrupting influences that lead them exactly to speak the way they do. That’s just the hard truth.”
The Swamy is slick like Obama; is his Trump like populism bedrock or on shifting sands? But yeah, US interests right here at home.
Choose not to support the administration and aid to Ukraine and thus, implicitly at least, support Russia who wants to dominate a people that does not want Russian domination.
Choose to support Israel and an administration you can hardly tolerate, and thus allow a possible genocide of the Palestinian people. Oh, you say, supporting Israel, that’s just the ‘strategic’ thing to do. ‘We can fight them over there, so we don’t have to fight them over here.’ Right, like 9/11.
One can only hope that the powerful have the true, the right, moral compass. Good luck with that. The powerless, not subject to the same pressures and temptations, can more comfortably choose their morality while snugly ensconced in their Strato loungers as the big screen blares its inanities and contradictions, adding to the confusion and paranoia and making it more difficult to choose a moral option.
“Choose not to support the administration and aid to Ukraine and thus, implicitly at least, support Russia who wants to dominate a people that does not want Russian domination.”
WITAF…?
Spur
Hmmm. Europe dumped its excess population that outgrew it resources into the New World for 400 years.
The natives that were here were just pushed out of the way and the ones that violently protested were dealt with. America became America, the most powerful nation on earth by aggression and domination by Europeans. It has pulled others from the world up by their bootstraps by having an aggressive economy, European inspired. That is why they just keep coming.
Israel is the same!!! Jews became the homeless of Europe after WW2. They got their act together and took Palestine away from the British and the Arabs. Just like the USA!!!
What exactly do you thinks mainstream America would do if Native Americans or Blacks or Latinos started lobbing rockets at Red Zones? Look around, our governments are cowardly extensions of Soros et al and his servants in the Deep State. Israel has ten times the cojones the US does.
Slightly off the topic at hand, but since it ties in to energy, which has a lot to do with why we are eager to get WWIII started, and food, which also has a lot to do with that, and Mr. Kunstler’s predictions in general I am putting this out there today.
I have not read this man’s book yet.
He starts the video pointing out that there are two things we consume every day, energy and food.
He ties what the government has done to our food into inflation, because the high cost of things that people desperately need tend to get people riled up against their leaders.
What they have done to our food ties into the obesity epidemic.
I keep saying this, it isn’t that everybody decided to eat too much. It isn’t even that people are eating too much junk food. It’s that the food that they tell us we should be eating, much of that IS junk food.
He says we have been gaslighted, purposely.
He uses the phrase “recipe for metabolic destruction”.
People keep telling me it’s a simple issue of calories in, calories out.
Yes, if your metabolism isn’t shot.
Anyway, he ties all this stuff together quite well.
0:17 / 54:32
Ep. 2402 How Inflation Poisoned Our Food
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBzT6V4z6wk&t=1s
Looks interesting. Listening now.
Nonsense. It’s calories in, calories out. I’m tired of fat people blaming their lack of willpower and emotional weakness on “doctored foods”.
Yes, there are food deserts. (Or food desserts, if you will.) Poor people often don’t have access to good nutritional alternatives. But it’s still the combined ultra-processed fat/carb high-caloric, hyper-palatable junk that’s killing people.
To all the folks who do not believe that Hamas is capable of atrocities.
Do you remember ISIS, doing all the above atrocities on camera? Islam is turning human beings into murder machines with no morality. We have heard over and over that Islam is a religion of peace? Someone should tell the Shia side about that statement, Shia has always stood for Jihad and violence. Latest WH BS is trying to say that Iran is not involved with Hamas attacks. Nuts!!!!
The US is no longer in any position to help Israel, we cannot even help ourselves anymore. So Israel will take care of business without US approval.
Does the White House support Israel or Iran? Who knows? What difference does it make?
IMHO, it is time for Israel to just obliterate the opposition, what and whoever that means. Hezbollah, Hamas, ISIS, whoever.
BTW, have you seen the protests in this country?
Yeah, unified! My butt!!
John, youmust have one strong nose. Because you’re constantly led around by it.
Uh, led by whom?
The people you do not agree with.
I am led by my conscience and sense of right and wrong, certainly not by your opinion.
You’re just another neocon dupe.
A Sean Hannity “Republican”.
The worst kind of conservative
John is at heart a good man, but he has poor judgment.
He fell for Covid hook, line, and sinker, too.
He has woken up in proportion to the degree that it has become socially acceptable to question the whole fiasco.
Why would the latest narrative making its rounds be much different?
Black and white, dumb and dumber. John must leave the binary.
As always, I delight in our host’s use of language, even as he tells me what I really wish I didn’t have to hear.
It may be impossible to know what has really happened in this latest debacle, at least not until it’s too late to respond differently. The wheels have been set in motion, and there is no stopping them now.
Ignoring that for the moment, I think it might be illuminating to look at the behavior of the hordes of Muslims who have invaded Europe in recent years – the burning of churches, epidemics of rape (gleefully filmed and presented on social media) mob violence, attacks on civilians, priest’s throat cut while saying Mass, even (as I watched today) attacks on ambulances in Sweden – which has had at least one bomb set off every day in the last year. All that we have accomplished is to spread what was once a relatively localized and ongoing conflict to every place that was once at peace.
I’ve seen, and I’m sure the rest of you have also,countless videos online of Muslims calling for jihad before shrieking mobs of followers in London, Paris, Vienna. This has gone on for years and it comes directly from their holy book, their “prophet,” their Sharia law. It doesn’t appear to emanate from fanatics or outliers, or to be the result of misinformation. Their holy book calls for it. I’ve read it; it’s a nasty piece of work. These are their entrenched beliefs and it would be foolish to think they don’t really believe them. They readily prove that by acting them out in every country that has welcomed them. The fact that they’re in a safe and welcoming environment, yet continue this behavior, speaks for itself.
We now have, in our midst, at our invitation, a vast number of people, many here illegally, who feel emboldened to tell us how much they hate us. I would be inclined to give them a ticket to anyplace that will take them. I also take note of the fact that none of their Muslim neighbors whose borders are nearby will accept any Palestinians. Apparently they’ve noticed something that we have not.
So – I consider the latest outrage, whether it’s fake or real, to nevertheless be in keeping with the way that followers of Islam have behaved in civilised places where they’ve been safe and welcomed. I’m not sure about any of the rest of this, but I think their religion is toxic. It’s certainly not a set of beliefs that can exist within either Christian or post-Christian countries.
Who let the Islam into our nations? Who pressured us and taught us to hate ourselves this much? Who disparages the very concept of nations?
Who do you blame, the vicious dog who bites you or the owner who let it out so it could?
@Jarek, I think it’s pretty clear who let them in. But now that they’re here, we have to do something with them and about them. I hope it will be something sane and civilized, but I honestly have no idea what that would be. It would require good will, honesty, realism, wisdom, and discernment, all of which are in short supply. My own supply of each is obviously very limited.
The Muslims who have been welcomed into the Western world have been made use of by the usual suspects, and we know what they do with those whose usefulness has come to an end. I don’t hate them in the least, but I think it’s being proven we can’t live together.
Everything I’ve seen in recent years has supported the reality that humans are tribal in nature. A few enlightened people choose their tribe and are able to get past their hardwiring. Most, however, revert to their hardwired settings as soon as they feel threatened. This experiment in multiculturalism has been an epic failure and is coming to an end. I just hope there will be something left when it’s all over.
After their recruitment to, and set up, in Europe, the Muslims never even tried to assimilate in (i.e.) France or Sweden. And what would assimilation even mean? We know. Concessions and ‘education adjustment’.
The Left whined relentlessly about the “unwelcoming” French, but the ‘new citizens’ didn’t want anything to do with the ‘corrupt’ West, so they kept to their enclaves (or ‘ghettoes’, as the hysterical university students called them), bred, and lived complacently off the dole.
Multiculturalism was always a top-down implementation. The political class don’t care. They have their own enclaves that don’t touch with the outsiders, whether native plebe White or newly minted Other.
The only solution won’t be forthcoming any time soon, since it’s the abolishment of the existing political system and its replacement by some form of aristocratic leadership based on race and culture.
Do I remember ISIS?
Sho ’nuff. That creation of the CIA and MI-6 that only further-inflamed an already brutalized region of the world.
The same ISIS which was resupplied through Israel and whose wounded were treated in Israeli hospitals.
Not to mention our self-proclaimed ‘allies’ in Syria, al Qaeda, some of whom were the recipients of the Libyan weaponry that got Christopher Stevens killed in Benghazi.
Benghazi and the ratlines. I remember no one of either party during those interminable hearings EVER asking the pertinent questions that the American people deserved answered honestly.
SNAFU thanks to the truth of what this country has become since being taken over (couped) on November 22, 1963.
I posted Carlin’s “The Big Club” elsewhere on here. Precisely for the faction on here who constantly are either whistlin’ Dixie or Mairzy Doats.
Requirements: Ears to hear and Eyes to see.
Sadly, “a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest…”—especially if the truth hurts and crumbles a fantasy foundation.
Damn, Dave. I could have posted this.
Are you sure you are not “unvaccinated”?
The only way that you could’ve posted that would be if Dave eMailed it to you beforehand because Dave’s writing runs circles around your drivel, little girl.
His writing is pretty standard–above yours in terms of quality, but nothing special.
The ideas expressed were far more impressive.
You seem to have a thing for little girls; anything you want to tell us Man of Canadeu?
No, Islam is not turning human beings into Murder machines.
That would be your genocidal nation of guns, drugs and mass-murdering war machine.
Say it’s name, if you can, then go get boosted, you western peasant.
You have it backwards, John. It is the Sunnis who are the violent jihadists.
JAZ, Hamas is Sunni.
Hamas, Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS and al Queda….all Sunni.
It is time to remember names.
All those that ostensibly lament the culture of death.
The endless wars.
The loss of freedoms and of opinions and of independence.
Those that decry America’s endless wars.
Its endless spending.
The deep state machinations.
The march to a one-world government.
The lines are literally being drawn in the sand, and you join your captors willingly.
Fools do not deserve freedom.
Here you are standing with Macon, Sunak, Trudeau, Netanyahu, and the Neocons.
Emotional beings exploited.
No tears to be shed for them.
Fools do not deserve freedom but freedom breeds fools.
Speaking of freedom, I hold your blindness responsible for the departure of MaryQueen.
And since you claim a life of misfortune, I waylay not.
MaryQueen could not stomach me. When her sick bullying and childish taunts in efforts to sadistically have me lose my mind and my CFN access to free speech failed, she rage-quit like the mentally nine year-old girl that she is. That’s the way that I remember it.
MaryQueen’s sickly pride is responsible for her departure, Amman.
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I do not claim a life of misery. I kicked ass circa 1965-2009. 2010-2023 was extremely unjust but I don’t ask for pity. What’s done is done. Immaculate justice will be meted by our Father at the time of His choosing.
She claimed that me, and by extension Cowbell for agreeing with him, were part of the problem too. She was increasingly unhinged toward the end.
@ OG:
MaryQueen was a bit combative, but–in your previous incarnation here–your hinges were not screwed too tight either. You were of course going through a rough patch.
If there is one thing we should not admonish the Hogger for, it is the departure of Mary Q Anon.
” I guess we’ll find out pretty soon whether some of them were sent to be activated against us.”
– Now who would possibly be responsible for this diabolical far-seeing Trojan horse?
Clearly, the Palestinians and the Islamists
(Yet another western peasant opinion.)
How now clearly, Peasant?
And who is the leader of the Islamists? The Secretary of Homeland Security?
Sarcasm, f***wad
Oooh… Oops.
“I’d go so far to predict that well before the 2024 election, America will have a new chief executive and that it won’t be Kamala Harris. It could be someone in a uniform, though. Just sayin’.”
The neocon/neolib (otherwise known as the “Uniparty”) Deep State uses politicians as their proxies at home, and nations, like Ukraine, as their proxies abroad.
The problem with a military government in the US, is that it gets the elite too engaged. There isn’t any cover or middlemen for the US public to blame for inevitable failure.
When Biden fails in Afghanistan, or Ukraine– the public blames the Biden government, but not the dozens of US Intel agencies, or the arms manufacturers (or their lobbyists), or the Pentagon, or the neocon “think tanks” which promote all this imperialism (or their lobbyists).
No. I don’t think a general will assume domestic command.
More likely a Newsom-like character who is coached to a hardline pro-Israel, anti-Russian position.
So, just another snake of Medusa, essentially.
Hyperbole doesn’t help either side.
Claiming that 40 babies were beheaded is ridiculous on its face. Why would there be 40 babies in a small settlement, just for starters?
But calling Gaza a concentration camp, or an open air prison, is also ridiculous.
I just heard today that out of those 2.5 million people living there, 1 million are children.
Open air prison? Clearly it must have very generous conjugal visitation policies, then.
I used to watch Democracy Now, and Amy Goodman is extremely pro-Palestinian.
Back then, she always called Gaza a refugee camp. OK, my internal picture of a refugee camp includes people living in tents, and lining up for water and food.
But then she would show video of Gaza, and it was clearly a city, not a refugee camp. A city with electricity, food shops, and running water, to boot.
So apparently, they’ve changed the rhetoric, to “prison”, but it is still ridiculous.
And the constant claims of ”genocide” are equally ridiculous.
Maybe the Cornucopians around here believe that 70 years of “genocide” turns 250,000 people into 2.5 million.
Why not? They think that 50 years of worldwide “genocide” turns 3.5 billion people into 8 billion people.
They aren’t clear on the concept, or the math.
But it is eye-rolling to have to read rhetoric like that.
This seems to be an insolvable problem. I am not a Cornupocian, so I can see that there are too many people, and not enough land involved in this dispute.
I do think that the two state solution should be enforced, with Israel going back to its pre-1967 borders.
Do I think that will work? I doubt it.
There are violent criminals on both sides of this fight, as we have seen for the last week.
Why take sides? A pox on both their houses.
The grown-up countries seem to be taking charge now, though.
Iran is refusing to take the bait, and even Saudi Arabia is far more rational than either the US or Israel.
If this can be resolved, the rational countries will do it, led, as usual, by Russia.
Russia and China will not resolve it all but they do contribute something towards justice to their credit. There are also a lot of American and European peoples who contribute towards justice but only as individuals or small organizations. The DC state itself, and much of the Euro BLOB, is strictly “media-line” or goes out of its way to adhere to the media-line – God bless ’em.
The one who will resolve the Palestine-Zionism struggle I believe is the ISLAMIC-ARAB World. Justice is the criteria and key that will find the winning formula.
What Arab country has shown an interest in solving the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?
Qatar? Kuwait? UAE?
They all use the Palestinians to keep their own populations distracted. They are all allied with the US.
The best chances are Iran (non-Arab), and Saudi Arabia, imo, and maybe Egypt and Syria.
The countries of Lebanon and Syria and Iraq are interested in Justice for Palestine. I should also add the friends of the Islamic-Arab World that are in (East/west) Europe, Asia and Africa.
But the Islamic-Arab World itself, this is about 50 countries and all of them have active individuals and organizations whose influence and impact is after a gradual, slow and accumulative process.
if Saudi Arabia suddenly transforms into a resistance country, (meaning the Leadership and not the people…) then the pressure and clout of the IA WORLD grows substantially.
@Amman. “ But the Islamic-Arab World itself, this is about 50 countries and all of them have active individuals and organizations whose influence and impact is after a gradual, slow and accumulative process.”
Could you expand on this thought?
Thanks.
I am talking about the decisions, “messaging” and interactions of the Islamic-Arab world with other countries.
The sum of which sets a trend to the benefit or detriment of those countries.
Commercial Examples:
I am a tourist. I am planning to visit France for vacation. Some French Politician says something on the news that offends me. I am irate and decide instead to go to Egypt / Sharm Al Sheikh instead.
An Energy executive in Qatar sees something in GAZA on Al Jazeera News that floors him. He decides to buy from the Asian supplier and ditch the Swiss company.
…..
Such things add up over time.
Well, Hamas went and fought with ISIS to terrorize and kill Syrians.
I, for one, will not forget or forgive them for that, even if the Syrian leadership is willing to swallow it in the interests of peace.
I agree that these things do add up. Do you think that the people of Syria have forgotten?
I don’t think HAMAS fought with ISIS. In fact, I’m positive.
Prison is a misnomer for Gaza.
Refugee camp also. Gaza actually contains a couple of refugee camps.
The idea that Gaza was a “gift” to the Palestinians is obscene.
For a history of the Gaza Strip,
httpX://consortiumnews.com/2023/10/13/history-of-the-gaza-strip/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=ab6758ad-15a4-4028-9498-1bc8d65709fe
“. . . During the 1948 war that established the state of Israel, the Israeli military bombed 29 villages in southern Palestine, leading tens of thousands of villagers to flee to the Gaza Strip, under the control of the Egyptian army that were deployed after Israel declared independence. Most of them and their descendants remain there today.
Following the 1967 Six-Day War between Israel and its Arab neighbors, the Gaza Strip came under Israeli military occupation. The occupation has resulted in “systematic human rights violations,” according to rights group Amnesty International, including forcing people off their land, destroying homes and crushing even nonviolent forms of political dissent.. . .
About one third of Gaza’s inhabitants trace their family’s roots to land inside the Gaza Strip. The remaining two-thirds are refugees from the 1948 war and their descendants, many of whom hail from towns and villages surrounding Gaza.
The Palestinians of Gaza trend young: nearly half the population is under 18. The enclave is also very poor, with a poverty rate that stands at 53 percent.
Despite this grim economic picture, education levels are quite high. Over 95 percent of Gazan children ages 6-12 are in school. The majority of Palestinian students in Gaza graduate from high school, and 57 percent of students at the prestigious Islamic University of Gaza [which was hit by Israeli air strikes on Wednesday] are female. . . .
a World Bank survey earlier this year found 71 percent of Gazans show signs of depression and high levels of PTSD.
There are several factors that contribute to these conditions. A major factor is the crippling, 16-year blockade that Israel and Egypt – with U.S. support – have imposed on Gaza.
Years of Blockade
Shortly after the 2006 elections, the Bush administration tried to force Hamas from power and bring in a rival leader from the Fatah party who was considered friendlier to Israel and the U.S. Hamas preempted the coup and took full control of Gaza in May 2007. In response, Israel and Egypt – with U.S. and European support – closed the border crossings into and out of the Gaza Strip and imposed a land, air and sea blockade.
The blockade, which is still in effect, limits the import of food, fuel and construction material; limits how far Gaza’s fishermen can go out to sea; bans almost all exports; and imposes strict limitations on the movement of people into and out of Gaza. In 2023, Israel has allowed only around 50,000 people a month to exit Gaza, according to U.N. figures. . . .
[[[good, detailed map Map by the U.N. Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs of the Gaza–Israel barrier in 2019. (Wikimedia Commons, Public domain)]]
The years of closure have devastated the lives of Palestinians in Gaza. Inhabitants there don’t have enough water for drinking and sanitation. They face electricity cuts that run 12-to-18 hours each day. Without adequate water and electricity, Gaza’s fragile health care system is “on the brink of collapse,” according to the medical rights group Medical Aid for Palestine.
These restrictions hit the young and the weak of Gaza particularly hard. Israel routinely denies sick patients the permits they need to receive medical care outside of Gaza. Bright students with scholarships to study abroad often find that they are unable to leave.
U.N. experts say this blockade is illegal under international law. They argue that the blockade amounts to a collective punishment of the Palestinians of Gaza, a violation of the Hague Convention and the Geneva Conventions that form the backbone of international law. . ..[more]”
BTW, if Israel can build a perimeter fence to keep Gazans in (see map at the link) I see no reason why the USA can’t build a perimeter fence on its southern border.
Gaza could have been a peaceful thriving place by now if only the Palestinians accepted Israel’s right to exist and dropped their fanatical desire to kill Jews. Why in the world should Israel not defend itself? Why should they willingly yield their sovereignty to people that hate Jews? Was not the 1st holocaust enough for the Jewish community to endure? Must they suffer another? Muslims do not assimilate into non-Muslim cultures, and they hold particular animosity towards Jews,
Yes Israel was the ancestral land of the Palestinians. It was also the ancestral land of the Jews. The two groups were incompatible, a war ensued, and the Palestinians lost.
Well put. That sums it up nicely.
a war ensued, and the Palestinians lost
So they regrouped and Voila! – another war.
One Jewish guy I knew: Yes, there were atrocities by the Jews against them, but that was mostly before 1945. Since then it’s most the Palestinians.
Jarek: Well of course. You took it from them by terror and now they’re trying to get it back. That makes you the good guys now?
There is no answer since neither will accept anything less than total victory. Any answer will have to be imposed on them from without.
“ Yes Israel was the ancestral land of the Palestinians. It was also the ancestral land of the Jews. The two groups were incompatible, a war ensued, and the Palestinians lost.”
Chip, when did this war occur?
Excellent comment, Paula. All good points. When I visited the area, many Palestinians worked in Israel and were happy about it. Good wages, they could save, build a house back in the village. Like Guatemalans here, a bit.
Then came the prophets of jihad, the suicide vests and all that. No more jobs. Many of the murdered recently were Thais and Nepalis now working the farms and factories.
Russia seems the most intelligent, calm yet firm power right now.
I’m trying to understand how some sources, such as Automatic Earth and Moon of Alabama, so useful and impartial when analyzing the Ukraine fiasco, have now gone full foam in the mouth kill-the-jews crazy.
Tectonic plates shifting.
Yet Russia, that most rational of nations, never supported Hamas, or Hezbollah for that matter. Their diplomatic finesse is well known, and generally they call for peace and dialog. Same peace and dialog they wanted to have with Ukraine until it became impossible thanks to US-NATO.
They are allied with Iran which supports Hezbollah.
Yes, they are the new Templars. Palestine must against become a Templar Protectorate where all can worship freely.
The Jews should have taken Madagascar when it was offered to them.
I don’t frequent Automatic Earth, but MoA is blowing my mind.
600 or 700 comments on each middle east post, while Ukraine has been left in the dust.
And yeah, most of the comments are rabid kill-the-jews crazy. It’s downright scary.
“And yeah, most of the comments are rabid kill-the-jews crazy. It’s downright scary.”
I don’t think you have been reading the comments at MoA.
Defending Palestinian rights and recounting the actual history does not = “kill the Jews.”
You are the one foaming at the mouth.
Always so dark and heavy, JK.
And it always makes me feel better. Walker Percy would understand.
Thanks a bunch to Kunstler for reminding us about the famous Chinese “4 Wars” Doctrine.
Only problem is we’ve never heard about it.
Lahaina 8/8
MAUI COUNTY, Hawaii (Island News) — Officials on Maui have released the names of two more people who died in the Lahaina fire disaster. The death toll remains at 98.
Authorities identified 80-year-old Leslie Smith and 66-year-old Dale Richter as the latest confirmed victims in the fire. Both were Lahaina residents.
Here’s what we know so far:
HAARP = Wind
Wind + Sabotage = Downed hot power lines in intentionally unkempt dry brush = Brush Fires
Brush Fires + HAARP Wind = Wild Fire
Barricade thousands of Americans in the kill zone
Except collect 2,000 of the rightful land heirs, put them in school buses and permit those buses with safe passage out of the kill zone – the only vehicles waved through the barricades manned by Vegas Turkey-Shoot “Incident Commander” John Pelletier’s troops
DEW the barricaded until they are ash
Immediately construct a 12’ 5+ mile blackout/blind fence
Guard the outside of this fence (in case any dust gets any bright ideas)
Allow no drones
Allow no non-MSM journalists (and their pesky questions seeking truth)
Successfully land grab some of the most valuable property on earth
+ 2,000 children make a sh!t-load of adren0chr0me
After all, Celine Dion needs her adren0chr0me fixes [Yeesh!]
Bob’s your uncle
“Everything is in flux.”
I did not see coming this present Israel-Hamas war.
I did not see coming the break-down in israel/U.S. intelligence.
I did not see coming the mistaken deployment of IDF forces in Israel on Oct. 7.
I did not see coming the scale and scope of the Hamas surprise attack.
For me, the last six days have been a humbling experience.
Yep, the mythical Black Swan takes flight, coming in hot out of the blue. Don’t feel bad Jim nobody expected this.
The Bible did.
This is why the Baptist Belt and 70% of MAGA want to support Israel.
They want to help God out and make sure Revelation comes to pass.
Absolute lunatics.
Would you Malthusians not take joy in this?
Cornucopians and Evangelical fundamentalists… about equally irrational and faith-based. Often run in the same circles and form alliances too… no coincidence.
“Kill ’em all”
–The Guslet
You always forget that I’m a cannibalism apologist as well.
Was that supposed to be a joke?
Psycho vibes.
Alastair Crooke did.
James Randi found the Scientists were the most easily fooled by professional charlatans. Too many “percepts” or percepts organized by conceptual frameworks. They couldn’t just “look” like children or cows can.
You can’t image that Israel would do this to its own people. Your inability to imagine it is the very thing that makes it possible.
Prison is a misnomer.
So is refugee camp (Gaza contains a couple of refugee camps, though).
For a history of the Gaza strip:
httpX://consortiumnews.com/2023/10/13/history-of-the-gaza-strip/?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=ab6758ad-15a4-4028-9498-1bc8d65709fe
“… kicking off that third world war we’ve been hearing about all our lives…”
Humans have a fairly universal fear of death. We know it’s coming. We know there’s nothing we can do about it. And so, people adopt a doom fatalism and a powerless empty feeling that is appeased only by strong faith or a really colorful NDE experience.
So, given the foundational fear of dying we harbor in our minds… we then externalize that fear to the Outer World and we eagerly anticipate some big orgasmic death climax for the human race.
What a colossal waste of time and energy that could be put to more beneficial and pleasant thoughts and deeds. But then, the human race is not the brightest bulbs in the Cosmos.
“ The world is periodically subject to a mighty release of tensions.”
That’s good, because we just can’t wait to get all tensed and charged up again about more stuff. If we didn’t release some tension every so often we would just explode internally and then we would miss the big orgasmic climax of some fools blowing up the Earth as we’ve all been conditioned to think. And that some even want… anticipating it like some folks look forward to a good meal.
Much of humanity is a self-hating species. Humans who hate other humans… and even themselves. No other critter on Earth does that as well as human beings.
“This degenerate nonsense has run its course.”
Not for all the many folks who have adopted Wokeism as their new religion and default lifestyle. They won’t give that up because they CAN’T give that up. It has become their personal identity and reason for living.
“ Yet to play out is America’s crisis of leadership.”
United States Incorporated has not have ‘Leadership’ for generations. Leaders… LEAD. We have nothing but bought-and-paid-for lackey and fetch-boys-and-girls who lead nothing but their noses deeply into the Public Trough… and then a few other places as well.
“I’d go so far to predict that well before the 2024 election, America will have a new chief executive and that it won’t be Kamala Harris. It could be someone in a uniform, though.”
And still, nothing will change. The roadmap set for us by the Dark Siders will move right along as scheduled. And a once-great Nation will look back and wonder… where did it all go wrong. And why did we let it happen.
Halloween Day of 2023 will be nothing compared to the Nightmares that we have already been living with in our Age of Agony.
The Grim Reaper has become our new World and National symbol.
Much of humanity is a self-hating species. Humans who hate other humans… and even themselves.
No other critter on Earth does that as well as human beings.
/ on utube I see lions killing their cubs and bears doing the same.
malthuss: “… on utube I see lions killing their cubs and bears doing the same.”
This may be true. But I doubt that the reason is ‘hate’ for them. You have to have an elevated (?!) level of thinking and reasoning to truly hate. Animals might kill their own out of instinct or rivalry or some other driver. But it’s not likely to be ‘hate’.
Only beings of higher intelligence can ‘hate’… as odd as that sounds. That’s why it’s such a mis-use of such higher intelligence to choose to use it that way.
“Covid is unquestionalby real,” “masks work,” “OMG Israel and Palestine,” “we are overpopulated,” “once the oil runs out, eveything is over–you will see!”
The consistency among some here is remarkable.
Does any thinking occur?
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There you go again, little girl. Those are not CFN quotes. You keep pulling out butt nuggets expecting to find gold.
What a completely bizarre exhibition of strawman spewing against all people in general.
The Hogger of Canadeu is a man of erudition, savoir fair, and elegance.
A man of another era.
A poet and a scholar.
CFN’s own Continental.
Once you know people love to believe in imaginary things, the smiles of politicians makes sense.
We are living in the time of “chaos culture”.
We are living in a time of mental retardation that is so incredibly outrageous that I have little doubt it outdoes all previous eras, epochs, and whatever other word you would like to choose to denote a specific period of time.
The sheer volume of shit passed off as accepted knowledge or true information is not something once can really describe in any language.
Never mind who I support.
Please recall that I didn’t want to discuss this subject either.
You believe in Turkish Germans, right?
That’s insane. As Henry Kissinger just said, You took in too many Muslims! Of course he probably wanted you to do so.
People like that can pressure nations into taking million of Muslims and then chide them for doing so. Hell, they can do both at the same time.
Consistency is for lesser beings. Once you’ve opened your borders, you’ve made an agreement with hell and you can expect to be mocked to scorn by all and everyone.
“believe in Turkish Germans”
Do you believe in them, Jarek?
“I believe I can fly. I believe I can touch the skyyyy…”
“People like that can pressure nations into taking million of Muslims and then chide them for doing so. Hell, they can do both at the same time.”
Jerek,
Ya, ya, ist good! Nobody put ze gun to your head to take Ze shots! You will eat ze bugs! It vill be your own choice!
@ Night Owl:
It’s like living in a Monty Python movie.
It is. I can’t decide which is funnier these days. And Python was really fucking funny at times.
Get Ready, Because The U.S. Is Going To War In The Middle East…
– Michael Snyder
We are on the precipice of a major regional war in the Middle East, and the U.S. military is going to be involved. Of course if this war was just limited to a fight between Israel and Hamas, there would be no need for the U.S. military to intervene, because the IDF can handle Hamas quite easily. But Hezbollah is another matter entirely. Hezbollah possesses an extremely powerful military, and they have an arsenal of approximately 130,000 missiles ready to be fired at Israel. If Hezbollah enters the war and starts firing thousands upon thousands of missiles at Israel, the United States will take action.
Unfortunately, we are already dangerously close to that point. Hezbollah has not formally entered the war yet, but clashes along Israel’s northern border have been happening for four consecutive days…
“Cross-border violence between Lebanon and Israel has escalated into a fourth day, pushing many Lebanese in southern towns to leave as Hezbollah and the Israeli military continue to trade fire.
Hezbollah said it fired precision missiles on an Israeli position across from the Lebanese town of Dharya on Wednesday, drawing retaliatory Israeli shelling that has left a number of houses damaged.”
Once Israel launches a ground operation inside Gaza, I believe that Hezbollah will formally enter the war shortly thereafter.
But it appears that Hezbollah is not just gearing up to fight Israel. In fact, they have issued a statement declaring the U.S. to be a “full partner” in the conflict with Hamas…
“Hezbollah issues a statement saying the United States is a ‘full partner’ of Israeli ‘aggression’ on the Gaza Strip. Hezbollah also says that it holds the United States fully responsible for the airstrikes that are killing civilians in Gaza.”
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I cannot comprehend how you non-believers in Jesus Christ of Nazareth can continue to witness His Word fulfilled yet also continue your march to Hell. D’uh!
I suggest that you get right with God and right quick for the sake of your eternal soul.
Who’s writing the check for this latest war?
Biden says, “Give Israel $x billion.”
Congress says, “Done!”
Treasury says to Fed, “We need another $x billion.”
Fed laughs maniacally.
Fed says, “Done!”
MIC says, “Over here!”
Treasury says, “Done!”
MIC then ships over-priced killing machines to Israel and spreads the money all over the obedient Congress critters.
So, ultimately, Israel gets the killing machines, Congressmen get the money, the Fed grows their balance sheet and US tax-payers get the debt.
“I cannot comprehend how you non-believers in Jesus Christ of Nazareth can continue to witness His Word fulfilled yet also continue your march to Hell.”
Spare us the baloney, O western peasant.
“Sudden passing of 53-year-old teacher . . . ”
No cause of death announced
I would make a joke here, but some will get veeeewy offended if one if a second-class citizen and Untermensch (i.e., an “unvaccinated” person) were to say anything about Pfister products or any vestiges of New Normal Nazism around these parts.
Who?
“I’ve been trying to say this to Jewish people, and to Americans, and to everybody, there’s an enemy within. I think we all know that and what are we going to do about it?”
“The vaccines were tested on Jewish people in Israel. Is this a captive population that the owners of the world think they can use as lab rats? again and again and again, even in their own state? I mean is it that big? Is it that horrible? And I kinda think, yeah it is”
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@therealroseanne
water shots?
A child of Israel. Another in Argentina. But it will not be in vain.
Xhttps://slaynews.com/news/8-year-old-vaccine-poster-child-dies-sudden-heart-attack/
Still want to get your Boosters, Peasant?
That did change my thinking. I thought the Global Elite – largely Jewish in the West, particularly the Anglosphere, loved their genetic people – but apparently not. They’re just like our White Elite are in relation to us. Seeing as Lab rats.
Classic National Socialism and the later White Nationalism seems to have been wrong about this. Yes, the Rothschilds were influential in the founding of Israel – but may well have done so for their own purposes, the better to continue to hide behind the Jewish people.
Of course all the issues between us and them can’t easily be brushed aside because of this as Alba seemed to suggest. The Talmud says what it says after all. The Satanists turned out to be bigger and stronger in the end but that doesn’t negate lesser issues and evils. Not unless people can just drop their beliefs in favor of the Truth. How many can do that?
The Neo-Traditionalist, Evola, got it right. His viewpoint always seemed equivocal to us, but it turns out that it was the subtlety able to discern a deeper evil behind all of the more outer evils of Talmudism, Zionism, Masonry, and in the end, the Church itself. Directing them, using them until such a time as they would no longer be needed.
“[…} as Alba seemed to suggest.”
Remind us of what ‘Alba’ actually said.
Astor, Bundi, Collins, DuPont, Li, Kennedy, Rothschild, Rockefeller, Freeman, Onassis, Russell, Van Duyn, Merovingians.
How many of those are Jewish?
I think you’ll find that’s what I said.
‘seemed to suggest‘ – nice double nothingburger. Doesn’t really commit you to anything, does it? But it shoehorns in some suggestion.
The ‘cabal’ or whatever you want to call it, ‘appears to be’ largely Anglo-American, whatever and wherever those dynasties grew from. If one Chinese dynasty doesn’t make the ‘cabal’ Chinese, then a couple (?) of Jewish families wouldn’t make it Jewish, would it?
And I don’t ‘seem to suggest’ anything about any of them. Not my research, so I wouldn’t know.
What I do know is that the average ordinary Jewish person (whether Semitic or Turkic) has nothing whatever to do with the machinations of the Rothschilds, any more than the average British person has anything to do with the machinations of the Windsors/Saxe-Coburg Gothas/Black Guelphs.
Other notions I have come across recently and of which I have no real knowledge:
1. The modern state of Israel has no connection whatever with the Israel of biblical prophecy (I think this is the position of Orthodox Jews as well?). Although TBH that notion is not at all new to me – I’ve just never delved into it. That obviously doesn’t either excuse attacks on Israeli civilians or say anything about the inhumane policies of the Israeli government towards the Palestinians.
2. You mentioned Koestler’s book about the Kazarians, which I haven’t read, but might at some point. Apparently several recent DNA surveys by reputable Israeli academics have demonstrated that no less than 97% of Israelis are not of Semitic origin, and therefore have no historical/geographical connection with biblical Israel (or Judah). The Kazarians seem to heve been converts to Judaism (for reasons of expediency), which seems no different from people anywhere in the world being converts to Christianity (without making any comparison of motives).
Perhaps the post-WWII refugee state would have been more appropriately planted, not in Palestine – and certainly not in Madagascar – but where Kazaria used to be. But it would still have been encircled by hostile peoples. There would still have been a problem of people being anti-Jewish (but not, technically, anti-‘semitic’, since the origin of the Kazarians appears to be Turkic). But we are where we are. They are where they are. And it would be good if the ‘hidden hand’ that’s stirring the pot to create WWIII could be cut off. But that’s very unlikely.
Well I didn’t want to put words in your mouth and I didn’t have your exact quote. But obviously, my attempt at being polite has earned me no goodwill, your mendacity being what it is.
One time the Queen and her retinue were walking and they came upon a party of high finance Jews going the other way. The Jews didn’t bow. They knew the score: The Queen and all that was the past. They were the future, and secretly, the present. The two groups just looked at each other and passed.
It was more cut and dried over here. Astor et al turned us over to the Rothschilds with the Federal Reserve Act. Read Griffin’s “The Creature from Jekyll Island”.
At some point in the 19th Century, the Church mixed its finances with the Rothschilds. Extraordinary. Even as the Popes were writing against the Masons and even sometimes, the Jews. Some piece of crap just betrayed them? Or did the Hierarchy know – and just didn’t think it mattered? Didn’t connect the “dots”?
They’re on top in the West, Alba. But again, they’re serving something beyond themselves as Evola says. And that being or force wants things that aren’t good for the Jewish people. Their ethnic solidarity and subsequent nepotism helped get them to the top, but It doesn’t care about that.
Where Kazaria used to be? That’s the Ukraine, I believe.
David Duke said something interesting that I have heard elsewhere: Iraq is sacred to them because that’s where the Talmud was written. Babylon. The Land between the Rivers. I like to have more than one source, but he is an advanced student of these matters.
“Well I didn’t want to put words in your mouth and I didn’t have your exact quote. But obviously, my attempt at being polite has earned me no goodwill, your mendacity being what it is.”
You weren’t being polite. I was about to read your post, as I generally do, but having read that first outrageous sentence, it seems to me that the toad does not deserve my time, so I won’t bother.
You really suck.
Thank you. From the toad, that is a compliment beyond compare.
What is your GLT score?
I bet mine is higher.
“Before the attacks, it felt like we were finally starting to see a movement of people who were unified against that enemy within. We didn’t agree on everything and there was still discussion to be had on issues, but we largely shared the sentiment in that we knew basically every government across the world was captured and apart of the same anti-human agenda, we knew they were willfully harming and killing people with the vaccine and other measures, and we knew they were lying to us constantly throughout.
After the attack, 9/11 brain has stricken many and we’re back to arguing over what narratives we trust, what people we should listen to, which authority is the good guy and the bad guy, and who we should support in enacting revenge on the perpetrators of the Hamas attack, instead of asking the obvious questions like
“How did Israel fail to protect it’s people exactly?”
“Who does this benefit in the end?”
“What could this be distracting us from?”
How was Hamas was able to ride into the country on bulldozers, boats, paragliders, and trucks, spend several hours killing civilians and capturing them as hostages, to then drive out of the country with said hostages with no contact from the Israeli military? Does no one notice how absurd this sounds?
It’s one of the best militaries in the world with the world super power of the United States behind it, and somehow they dropped the ball this badly and allowed their people to be killed? The exact same questions were asked on 9/11, and we were met with the same ridicule for asking them, to only find out years later they knew the attack was coming and let it happen for the war plans that made long in advance.”
https://twitter.com/Inversionism/status/1712565035917062203
She’s getting petty wise in her old age.
Oh, I dunno…
Maybe if I pop my head out my ass, I might know what is going on.
Say like if I read PressTv, Times of Israel, J Post, a Lebanese and Egyptian paper. Yeah, maybe then I might get a clear ‘effin idea or two about what happened on Oct 7.
Their take is different than what we’re getting?
Maybe not by a mile… but Different like how News of war and war are different.
Israel may very well be entering Hamas’ killing floor. Over a hundred Israelis taken as hostages? The Israelis can’t pound the Gaza into rubble now. Go in and rescue Israeli hostages? This could be the IDF’s Mogadishu Moment.
China: “Hello, may I please speak with Biden?”
Biden: “Speaking.”
China: “One of our balloons got out of control and are kind of over your place now.”
Biden: “Oh ya?”
China: “Ya. But it’s no big deal. There’s no plutonium powder on board or anthax or whatever.”
Biden: “Good to know! Thanks!”
China: “No problem! Just let the balloon fly completely over your country and only then, feel free to shoot it down. We will pretend to get all huffy about it for the media. Ok?”
Biden: “Sounds good!”
China: “Ok, well, nice talking to you. May you good luck and good fortune!”
Biden: “Thanks! You too!”
“How was Hamas… able to ride into the country on bulldozers, boats, paragliders, and trucks, spend several hours killing civilians and capturing them as hostages, to then drive out of the country with said hostages with no contact from the Israeli military? Does no one notice how absurd this sounds?” ~ Beryl of Oyl
Only if it never happened.
EU envoy paraglides off Gaza to show freedom ‘is the way forward’
“Video posted online by the European Union Delegation to the Palestinians showed Sven Kühn von Burgsdorff floating off a sandy 7 metre (21 foot) cliff and over the Mediterranean sea after an initial struggle to fill his canopy with enough wind.
The impoverished and congested Gaza Strip is kept under a cordon by Israel and Egypt designed to isolate the ruling Islamist militant group Hamas.
A small airport inaugurated in 1998 during interim peace talks was destroyed three years later by Israeli forces, which regularly intercept rockets, drones and even flammable material-carrying balloons launched by Palestinians across the border.
“Once you have a free Palestine, a free Gaza, you can do exactly the same thing,” Von Burgsdorff, who is wrapping up his tenure, said in the video. A spokesperson for the EU office in Jerusalem, involved in the flight said it took place on Sunday.
“And that’s the reason why I did this. To show you the way forward. We’ll work for it, okay?” Von Burgsdorff adds.
The paraglider belongs to the envoy, the spokesperson said, suggesting he managed to bring it past border security thanks to his diplomatic immunity.”
https://www.reuters.com/article/israel-palestinians-gaza-eu-idAFKBN2YY11J?fbclid=IwAR0pjkpD2s3sAWRvPDZYKqbwNNBg-q9L1hzCYX6BhhtGYB0ytMdyi4Ypxb4
Paragliding will be the new sport of Kings, as surfing was in old Hawaii. I have no doubt but that it is exploding right now.
There’s a reason why western armies ended the practice of mass Airborne assaults like the Germans used in Cyprus and the Allies employed in the ‘Market Garden’ campaign. After the Cypriot invasion German paratroopers, under the command of Goering, fought as infantry. Same in the Allied armies; after Market Garden Airbourne units served as a sort of Special Forces accompanying armor & infantry.
The fact is paratroopers were easily shot out of the sky by rifle fire. Casualties were excessive. The practice was abandoned.
Tells it like it is in language USA-ians can understand :
httpX://nitter.net/dannyshawcuny/status/1712839341465010266#m
Palestine Airspace Authority: “Hello, may I speak with Bibi?”
Bibi: “Speaking.”
Palestine Airspace Authority: “We have this paramotoring guy buzzing our neighborhoods and generally being a nuisance. Just a heads up if he drifts over your area. We don’t expect him to as we are currently working to resolve the matter. But if he end up over there, scare him a bit by giving him a two-month prison sentence or something like that ok?
Bibi: “Ok, thanks, will do. We’ll send a security detachment to meet him if he lands.”
Palestine Airspace Authority: “Perfect. Thank you and pardon the inconvenience.”
Bibi: “You’re welcome. Good night.”
Admit it: You’re going to get into paragliding now.
Are you for real?
Do I need to remind you that our host bounced you before from this site because of scurrilous remarks about the Jews?
Wtf?
Oh only you can make light hearted remarks mocking the whole absurd situation?
Palestine Airspace Authority: “Hello, may I speak with Bibi?”
Bibi: “Speaking.”
Palestine Airspace Authority: “We have this paramotoring guy buzzing our neighborhoods and generally being a nuisance. Just a heads up if he drifts over your area. We don’t expect him to as we are currently working to resolve the matter. But if he end up over there, scare him a bit by giving him a two-month prison sentence or something like that ok?
Bibi: “Ok, thanks, will do. We’ll send a security detachment to meet him if he lands.”
Palestine Airspace Authority: “Perfect. Thank you and pardon the inconvenience.”
Bibi: “You’re welcome. Good night.”
What a monster.
These ‘light-hearted remarks’ are making some points, apparently, maybe conveniently, lost on you.
Oh, and regarding your remarks in question, the ‘scurrilous remarks about the Jews’ was a verbatim quote by the way.
You often virtue signal ‘the truth’ but only when it seems to suit you. Where it doesn’t, it gets deflected, as here.
What we have here is, the immanentization of the eschaton.
Our Mr. Art of The Apocalypse
Staatliche <strongKunsthalle (German) = State Art Gallery
Kunst = Art
“Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, woodcut print from the Apocalypse of Albrecht Dürer (1497–1498), Staatliche Kunsthalle Karlsruhe” ~ Wikipedia, entry, Eschatology
“Eschatology (/??sk??t?l?d?i/ ?; from Ancient Greek ??????? (éskhatos) ‘last’, and -logy) concerns expectations of the end of the present age, human history, or the world itself. The end of the world or end times is predicted by several world religions (both Abrahamic and non-Abrahamic), which teach that negative world events will reach a climax. Belief that the end of the world is imminent is known as apocalypticism, and over time has been held both by members of mainstream religions and by doomsday cults. In the context of mysticism, the term refers metaphorically to the end of ordinary reality and to reunion with the divine. Various religions treat eschatology as a future event prophesied in sacred texts or in folklore.” ~ Wikipedia
“We supported the Hamas attacks until we found out they killed some of our people too.”
https://x.com/WR4NYGov/status/1712117294556696586?s=20
Asymmetric warfare (or asymmetric engagement) is a type of war between belligerents whose relative military power, strategy, or tactics differ significantly. This type of warfare often, but not necessarily, involves insurgents or resistance movement militias who may have the status of unlawful combatants against a standing army.
Asymmetrical warfare can also describe a conflict in which belligerents’ resources are uneven, and consequently, they both may attempt to exploit each other’s relative weaknesses. Such struggles often involve unconventional warfare, with the weaker side attempting to use strategy to offset deficiencies in the quantity or quality of their forces and equipment. Such strategies may not necessarily be militarized. This is in contrast to symmetrical warfare, where two powers have comparable military power, resources, and rely on similar tactics…
The term is frequently used to describe what is also called guerrilla warfare, insurgency, counterinsurgency, rebellion, terrorism, and counterterrorism.” ~ Wikipedia
To underscore, the above of course includes symmetrical combatants using asymmetrical tactics.
“…he managed to bring it past border security thanks to his diplomatic immunity.” ~ Reuters, via Beryl of Oyl
Asymmetric war is also referred to as Total War, as it puts everything “on the table,” as the proud US Chicken Hawks love to say.
But as governments now go to war with entire societies, life styles, and basic ways of life, Asymmetric does make a certain twisted sense. For all the hand wringing about governments’ attempt at genocide, who’s doing it and why, it’s quite often the underlying impulse in most, if not all, wars; so much so that it’s usually the civilian populations themselves calling for it the loudest.
We’re all barbarians at heart, it would seem.
Bibi: “Our Iron Dome is impenetrable!”
Sara: “Of course it is, my Bibi, of course it is…”
“Although a useful deterrent against raids, at several points throughout its history the Great Wall failed to stop enemies, including in 1644 when the Qing troops marched through the gates of the Shanhai Pass and replaced the most ardent of the wall-building dynasties, the Ming, as rulers of China proper…
Since then, many scholars have operated under the belief that the Great Wall continually defended China’s border against the steppe nomads for two thousand years.” ~ Wikipedia
Shades of Rick Perry: Put up a 30 foot wall and they’ll bring a thirty foot ladder.
Straw man. No one ever said a Wall is a stand alone that works without defenders.
A lot of problems with ‘walls’, guarded or otherwise, that many people, including you apparently, don’t seem to understand or want to understand.
Oh this is why you got so angry. I disagreed with you about walls, lol.
Eh , I think the Americans shot their last wad in Iraq and Afghanistan .
Nothing is going to happen here except another expensive busy – work dog and pony show.
Nothing is going to happen except you will be poorer after the expensive visuals.
Sometimes your longer posts remind me of Shawna Colvin’s song “Sunny Came Home”, KA.
“Burn it down & f#kk ’em all.”
Metaphorically speaking, of course.
Maybe be more concerned about whether you will be able to affford Halloween or Christmas for kids you the know the names of ,
not kids you don’t know the names of on the other side of the world.
Or better yet, flush both of those useless commercialized holidays altogether and be done with them.
Christmas and Hallowe’en are great.
I’ve never understood this reflexive cynicism and complaining about the commercialization of holidays. Don’t turn on the TV, don’t read magazine ads, don’t visit the hectic malls, and don’t buy useless presents for people. There. Problem solved.
Now you can celebrate it however you want — with people you love, with festive or holy music, or just staring out the window at snow drifts and reflecting on better times.
@KesaAnna
Afford Christmas. I think that says it all.
@ oldandtired:
I used to dread Christmas–while at the same time enjoying it in many ways. This was mainly because it was so stressful to pay for it. It’s not so bad now. I just give the kids an Amazon gift card and the grandkids a Christmas card with some cash enclosed. I used to give everyone a gift bag of my homemade bath and body products. I was actually glad to get rid of stuff, because Christmas came at the end of the market season, and I always wanted to get rid of everything and start the new season fresh.
But Christmas was always a tight squeeze when all the kids were still home.
Hadrian’s Wall and the Great Wall of China both did what they were designed to do: Keep people out. No one ever believed they would work without guards or that they couldn’t surmounted or otherwise destroyed in the absence of guards.
So? So they were guarded.
October 14, 2023 at 3:02 am
@Jarek, This present situation is one that I’m honestly ill-equipped to understand or disentangle. Every time I approach it I feel utterly enmeshed in a web of lies and misdirections. Many of the lies appear plausible except for the fact that they contradict others that also seem plausible.
So I ask myself if there is any conclusion I can reach about which I feel any certainty, and I then (try to) refrain from speculating about anything outside of that. My certainty is pretty much confined to the realization that people from different tribes – and I realize that one’s tribe isn’t always perceived along ethnic lines – simply can’t live together and shouldn’t try.
The Global State is another Tower of Babel. An attempt to create Heaven on Earth without God.
If a person grows tall, they can look over their garden wall and enjoy their neighbor’s garden. Maybe even exchange seeds, flowers, and fruits.
It’s an individual thing, not something to be forced upon a whole people, and not even something to be mandated to individuals. Many enjoy such experiences and seek them out. Others don’t feel the need, but might enjoy them if encountered.
When two cultures meet, there will be an “inter-zone”. That’s fine. But of course the Elite are bound and determined to turn the entire West into this, destroying all cultures in the mix so as to create a constant Lowest Common Denominator everywhere. This Oriental/Occidental Bazaar will end up just producing and selling trash to human trash. No need to travel – every place will be equally trashy, filled up with trash, both human and human made.
The Israelis already built a wall circa the 90s after the PLO homicide bombers (suicide bombers is an incorrect term) struck, relentlessly, for many years. It worked just fine. Jews could go to the pizzeria or temple again without fear of becoming chunks of flesh in an instant.
Israel has great walls, not like the rinky dink slatted nonsense Trump was building. You can climb that, shoot thru that, or pass contraband through that. You can’t do any of that with a real wall, not without a ladder.
They explained they had to see what was happening on the other side. Sure!
It’s the damnedest thing that here we are in a technologically advanced and supposedly affluent society, and we can’t afford to build a proper crenelated masonry wall. We used to build beautiful churches and public buildings, but now we build pole barns. We used to build sturdy houses with oak floors laid over 2″X10″ lumber sub-flooring–with 2″X10″ lumber exterior sheathing–both laid on the diagonal.
But I guess a rich and advanced society can only afford plywood and plastic houses.
President Joe Biden made a bold statement on Tuesday, saying that America will soon be a “minority white country.”
“We are going to be a minority white country in the future,” Biden said during a speech at the White House. “That’s just the way the demographics work out.”
No, Biden, you and the Obama clan are working out the demographics with the open border.
‘Biden’s viewpoint on the influx of immigrants has been consistent. In a 2015 statement, he recognized the continuous migration to the U.S., saying, “Persistent immigration will soon make White individuals a relative minority in the country. This shouldn’t be viewed negatively; in fact, it’s a testament to our nation’s strength.”
How demeaning, destructive, and insensitive towards your own race can you be? An old, decrepit, weak shell of a man yet a frightening racial grim reaper in favor of the Great White Death.
“High level defectors say that the two founders don’t value our Race at all, that’s just business, the drug business. One is apparently Jewish, lol, as by his Star of David tattoo.” ~ Jarek July 17, 2023 at 11:38 pm
“I can’t eat an apple like that. The skin gets stuck in my throat. Hitler had the same problem.
…Hitler won the Iron Cross for bravery.” ~ Jarek July 20, 2023 at 1:37 pm
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Of course Hitler’s military killed a whole lot of ‘white’ people– maybe among the most, if not the most, in history– and is something that has seemed conspicuously absent from Jarek’s (national socialist, etc.) agitprop.
“Of course Hitler’s military killed a whole lot of ‘white’ people– maybe among the most, if not the most, in history” Zaz
Er … Uncle Joe — the other one — would like a word with you.
The “Star of David tattoo” is an odd tidbit. Jewish religious beliefs forbid tattoos.
The, or a large, problem is the State, tucsonspur.
Those are the ‘walls’ we should be especially concerned about.
God help the “Stateless Man”, the Man Without a Country.
Homeless, hounded, welcome nowhere, belonging nowhere, a pariah wherever he ends up.
Is this what you aspire to, Zaz?
Remember “Plain Buttons” who hated the United States? Who wrote that? Junior Officers on the ship thought that every ship had a “Plain Buttons”.
I need to read this again.
Spur
This world is run by a Mob, globalist Mob. We are being divided up by the elements of the Mob, the western world that is.
Here comes BRICS++, hungry to destroy the West. It will be an easy battle, as the West has a gun pointed at itself.
BRICS++ includes Iran and Saudi Arabia as of the last BRICS++ global conference. Shia and Sunni leadership together, hmmmm.
Two mobs starting to go to blows. Russia and China are very quiet about the Israel war, although Blinken is trying to get them involved, politically.
Is this War an early volley of the BRICS++, WEF war? Israel is primarily European, eastern and does represent the West in the Middle East. Western stability, in the USA and WEF PTB eyes.
Will the US get involved if Israel starts to lose to an ongoing Arab onslaught? Or will Europe get involved? How is Turkey going to fit in?
Will this turn into a Muslim – Judea-Christian world war?
This is not a cerebral war that may be coming, but a blood and guts war uncontrollable by DC. If the USA gets involved, I hope OG and his country are ready to take all the US dissidents along with the Latter day immigrants that will desert this ship by the millions.
This could blow up into a world conflagration very easily.
A question for the troops, what percentage of Gaza’s population are active zealots, Hamas? Are we witnessing a group of punks utilizing the civilian crowd as a shield? Would a poll of the Strip show support for Hamas or Israel?
All you caustic folks out there, think about that.
Pink Floyd – Another Brick In The Wall
youtu.be/YR5ApYxkU-U?si=hRF5yXHTNvFx2fgY
Thx, Zaz. I have not watched a clip from the movie in quite some time. I truly is a brilliant film. Not only is it one of the very finest rock movies ever, it is one of the very finest films of any genre ever, imho.
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For those ready for a dose of the Mighty Floyd:
Pink Floyd ~ The Piper At The Gates Of Dawn [1967]
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Pink Floyd ~ A Saucerful Of Secrets [1968]
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Pink Floyd ~ The Dark Side Of The Moon [1973]
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Pink Floyd ~ Wish You Were Here [1975]
bitchuteDOTcom/video/qyKLZxdGElOP/
?Pink Floyd ~ Animals [1977]?
bitchuteDOTcom/video/STWrkQLzoU2w
Pink Floyd ~ The Wall [1979]?
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{I really do need to upload ‘Meddle’ and ‘The Final Cut.’]
“A diversionary foreign policy, or a diversionary war, is an international relations term that identifies a war instigated by a country’s leader in order to distract its population from their own domestic strife. The concept stems from the Diversionary War Theory, which states that leaders who are threatened by domestic turmoil may initiate an international conflict in order to improve their standing.” ~ Wikipedia
From the Twitter/X account of Haaretz.com:
“Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas,” Netanyahu told his Likud party’s Knesset members in March 2019. “This is part of our strategy”
When I try to post links, I notice that the post often doesn’t go through, so I’ll just say that my own view what is happening in the western side of the Middle East right now is pretty much mirrored by what Australian writer Caitlin Johnstone is writing about it on her Substack and Twitter/X accounts.
Since you mentioned Ms. Johnstone, I was just thinking about her the other day.
She’s someone I often don’t agree with, but I like to read her stuff now and then to keep my mind sharp and see where people with opposing ideas may have a point.
Anyway, she wrote a column about how we were going to see the word “unprovoked” in the media a lot, as it related to the situation in Ukraine.
Remember Ukraine? That was a long time ago in terms of the MSM.
She put out a tweet reminding people that she was right, after some world body or other admitted that it was always about NATO, NATO being what provoked Russia.
People on her feed kept arguing that Russia had no justification for invading another country, and she just kept repeating her tweet in response.
It was clear that some people do not know what the word “provocation” even means. They conflate it with rights or good reasons or something.
That’s a ghetto mentality.
Caitlin never said Russia had any sort of right to invade another country.
My favourite media reflex-words are ‘unprovoked’, ‘baseless’, ‘conspiracy theory’ and ‘misinformation’.
I like ‘innocent’ too. That’s always a prelude to an over the top emotional appeal.
I like “making up shit”, like saying four when other people say two plus two.
Get ready for a comeback of “asymmetrical warfare”.
Yeah, that’s the hope for any side — that they inflict the most casualties, while minimizing their own. Tends to shorten the battle/war, and, ironically for the naive pacifist commentariat, save more lives.
Ancient sleezebag Kissinger publicly laments Europe’s mass immigration of “refugees” as a “grave mistake”.
This only comes after pro-Palestinian manifestations in his native Germany.
Hitherto he was fine with it.
When it was only the native Germans experiencing the degradation of their society and values. Experiencing hate at home.
Only now, witnessing the animosity to the Jewish people does he pay attention. Does he dare.
It is only their problem when it’s their problem.
Not when it’s your problem.
Until BLM, antifa, and the flash mobs target them, their people, their culture, directly will they dare show concern.
This is the precedent always set.
It ONLY matters when it’s my people suffering.
Not the others
Not the ordinary
Kissy’s Realpolitik finally comes home to roost. Schadenfreude indeed! Old fat Zionist bastard.
He’s supposed to know so much and he couldn’t see this coming for decades?
He could be just disowning the end result of all he worked for, to protect his ‘legacy’ now that even the dumbest “leaders” in the world can see through this.
Of course. This is the way it has always been and the world is simply reverting to the mean. The last half century was an anomaly brought about largely by an artificial abundance discussed/analyzed/debated many times on this forum. In the White countries, this abundance created a mental sickness among a percentage of the people: the self-loathing guilt ridden eunuch. The absurd globalist project is the macro manifestation of this pathology. End of the day though, especially when confronted with an existential threat, blood will always be thicker than water. I personally get a kick out of the morality debate re: Gaza because this is simply tribal war for which the only morality is survival of the tribe. Hamas took their shot and now they will get the bill.
“Hamas took their shot and now [the innocent citizens of Gaza] will get the bill.”
That, of course, is war crime.
All war has (and always has had) a strong element of crime in it. The concept of war crimes though is right up there with the concept of white supremacy or settler colonialism, all deep thoughts that will have the staying power of a fart in the wind in the coming world of survival or extinction.
As I said, reversion to the mean.
You are incorrect, KoC. War crimes matter.
He’s mad at the Jews too – for holding back World Government. He’s a pure Elitist, American born, but more at home in Europe.
Seems to see things much as Brezinski did. Against everybody except themselves, thus playing all against all.
“. He’s a pure Elitist, American born, but more at home in Europe. ‘
Who?
Kissinger??
Ya think?
He’s a pure Elitist, American born, but more at home in Europe.
It was said of Justin (Castro) Trudeau’s (Canada’s 23rd Prime Minister) “dad”, Pierre Elliott Trudeau (15th PM), “He’s Canadian … but European Canadian.”
BTW – The public rumour was always that Maggy Trudeau was bedded by Mick Jagger at Toronto’s Westin Harbour Castle that night in 1978 while insiders insist that it was actually Ronnie Wood.
Ronnie’s Wood. There, fixed it for ya.
American born, but more at home in Europe. – Jar
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Google says Kissinger was born in Furth (two dots over the u), Germany and came to the US when he was 15 years old.
He lives out in Kent, Ct. People would see him in town & I heard he was approachable but it’s been awhile. At 100 I don’t think he’s getting around like he used to.
Kathmandu, Nepal – Prabesh Bhandari’s dream seemed within reach at the age of 24. He wanted to save money to build a house for his family in Salyan district, Nepal. And he had been invited to join a competitive cohort of aspiring agriculture professionals in Israel.
He had calculated that after room and board, he would save close to 1.1 million Nepalese rupees (around $8,275) after a year in Israel. But the unprecedented October 7 attack by the Palestinian armed group Hamas in southern Israel near the Gaza Strip meant that death came to him before his first salary.
“It had been less than a month since he had travelled to Israel and just over three weeks since he had started his work,” his aunt Sobha Sejwal told Al Jazeera over the phone.
His relatives say Prabesh left for Israel on September 12 and four days later, was assigned his first task – to pluck and harvest pomelo. On the eve of his death, his parents were waiting in his aunt’s house to talk to him, but he was unavailable and later messaged Sejwal: “I am too tired, I came home and did my chores and I dozed off.”
On October 7, he and nine other Nepali trainees in the batch of 17 working in the same farm, were dead. Four others were injured and one is still missing. It wasn’t until the day after that Prabesh’s family heard the news of the attack on the radio. Then, a friend of Prabesh’s from Israel called to tell them that he had been killed in the attack.”
https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/10/13/i-want-to-see-his-body-nepali-dreams-turn-into-israeli-nightmare
Virginia School Board Member Opposes Moment Of Silence For Victims Of Hamas Attack
““We often sympathize with and humanize the side that we relate to, the side that looks more like us which our biases guide us towards.”
https://www.dailywire.com/news/virginia-school-board-member-opposes-moment-of-silence-for-victims-of-hamas-attack
Is Ms. Omeish still right? Are the Nepali students wrong in retracting their statement of support for the organization that killed some kids who looked like them? Are they foolishly trying to humanize the victims?
What are statements of support or condemnation anyway, other than more useless virtue signaling?
I’m far more interested in knowing what’s really going on here, and I’m pretty damn sure it’s not what we’re being led to believe.
It never is exactly what we first hear.
And usually it isn’t even close.
Exactly, Dis. The truth is the best honour to be paid to the victims of anything, whether individual or geopolitical (so works for both injections and wars).
Corbett Report clip: “Babies on Bayonets”
https://corbettreport.substack.com/p/flashback-babies-on-bayonets?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=email-half-post&r=2bna8o#play
Funny, it was the Germans then (I’m third generation from Baden Baden), now an ally, now it’s the Palestinians, and by association, the Muslims and Arabs. They don’t even attempt to be creative anymore. Just cheap reruns.
Gotta admit, those German Pickelhaube helmets looked pretty stylish, though. Bet you could run a baby through with it and carry it around on your head if you were so inclined. Damn Krauts!
Recently Black women marched in South Africa holding impaled White dolls as their standard.
In the Haitian war, Black forces carried a real dead White child as their standard.
Basic question… If it’s all about the globalists these days, why is global power divided between West and East maybe more distinctly and evenly than ever before?
I doubt the globalists would even agree with the premise of your question. But why? I guess the east ain’t all that enrapt by the idea of a globalism imposed on them by a few western war hawks and their bankster/shyster elite. Smells a lot like colonialism 2.0. Not to mention that the western version is crumbling due to its MANY own internal contradictions.
Sounds a lot like these absolute masters of the universe are really struggling to keep a grip on even half the globe, to me.
Thus, all those incidents in the GLT, Gus. Those black ops are the very keys of how TPTB maintain and advance their complete control over the 0s and 1s (i.e. sheep) who swallow what their MSM feeds them hook-line-and-sinker.
Think about it.
Our Leaders became enraged when they realized that China was National Socialist for real. They weren’t going to betray China for money.
My father offered our Chinese neighbor some tomatoes. He accepted. My father offered him more and he refused, saying, “I have my own.”
Why did he take them the first time? Politeness, maybe?
Sometimes you have ripe tomatoes earlier than your neighbors–sometimes MUCH earlier. I, for example, am always the first one anywhere around to get ripe tomatoes. I think I even beat the market gardeners with their high tunnels. They are still selling tomatoes they bought at the Amish produce auction, where the growers are a bit further south–or even sometimes hot-house tomatoes, which are disgusting. Part of the reason they don’t sell them earlier is because the earliest tomatoes tend to be rather small and unimpressive. Customers want big red beefsteak-type tomatoes, so that’s what the market gardeners grow.
Your Chinese neighbor’s tomatoes probably just came on and ripened later than yours. This could be because your father started his tomatoes earlier, set them out earlier, or chose earlier varieties. Or it could be that your father’s soil is better, or his garden’s micro-climate is better–perhaps in a more sheltered spot or on a slight southerly incline–or that the Chinese neighbor’s yard has too much shade, etc., etc.
I feel sorry for JHK. He knows so much, but has to dance around the essential core truth … who rules America and the West?
I reckon the USA and EU are ruled by organizations and/or Institutions.
And the People who manage, control and/or have a stake in those organizations and institutions.
If this is true, it is helpful to ask which key organizations rule Europe and the USA.
Rule: Control of or dominion over an area or people.
Explicit regulation or principle governing conduct or procedure.
Dominion – A Territory, Control
Hilarious.
That’s not bad, I guess.
But I think you’ve miss the intention of the post.
Cop out. Sadly, he probably thinks he really answered.
“It has come to the point where Western intelligence agencies are training Ukrainian sabotage and terrorist combat groups for attacks on Russia’s nuclear energy facilities…This has been confirmed”.
– Sergey Naryshkin, Director, Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR)
If true, the mind reels…..
Surprised?
Yes. I confess I have a problem processing how the west could possibly want a war with Russia.
It is on account of their phoney-bologna fiat nothingness of the $US is now reaping what is has sewn. War is the only alternative lest they be held accountable for what they have done.
War is the answer.
What we have is a world where the economic fundamentals are extremely unstable, on the precipice, but no one realizes this, or will admit it to themselves or the public. Even on this site we have people deeply entrenched in the idea that these fundamentals are not unstable, or that we at least have more of an evil-actor problem than a disordered and fragile structural-economics problem.
I can only imagine how angry you are at the Humpbacks for being better than they should be.
Why not a movie about a Humpback in line with the Hunchback of Notre Dame?
What’s a humpback.
Just found out that in addition to a Humpback whale, there is a whale called a “Southern Right” whale; real and kinna funny.
Jarek requires a globalist cabal fully alive and well to maintain that Natl Socialist-vs.-globalist framework.
You will say Communism and Capitalism are two heads of the same serpent but won’t say that globalism and industrial nationalism have the same relationship.
A Nation has a natural limitation, that of being a particular people. If they seek to create an Empire of many conquered peoples, they will lose their nation in the chaos thereby created.
And yes, if they sough to simply kill off all other peoples, they would be Evil. That’s not my kind of National Socialism. We don’t have that right.
“The common denominator to contemporary National Socialism and contemporary globalism is the foundational economic role of industrial technology and industrial agriculture.”
—Ted Kaczynski, maybe
And that is one of many reasons I eschew fascism.
Mussolini said that fascism is militaristic and imperialistic. As you point out, an empire has no nationalistic identity, and is therefore not a nation, but rather a simple state – an oversized and ungovernable state.
Not that it matters, of course. We will not get to choose our form of government, now or in the future.
History used to be analyzed in 80-100 year segments. That’s now been reduced to 5 year segments. Soon it’ll be one year at a time. Eventually — 15 years from now? 30? — so much will be happening, from so many angles, that information will be treated as coming from a Surrealist founding poet on amphetamines.
Forest for trees.
We are headed toward a perspective of history that can be summed up as, “me/now”. In fact, we may have already bounced over that speed bump.
SF,
poet on amphetamines! Then there’s AI working on, among other things, creating perfect fakes of everybody’s voices, bodies, and even minds.
We’re drowning in information, can can’t tell what’s real and what isn’t.
Back just what we can confirm personally: deer in these woods. This neighbor I can trust, this one I can’t. Full moon today.
The Great Divorce is coming. Not a new civil war, but those in the digital realm, and those gone Luddite and off-grid. Which will be a minority, just like a minority refused the shots.
“Back just what we can confirm personally: deer in these woods. This neighbor I can trust, this one I can’t. Full moon today.” ~ Rulo Deschamps
Right Rulo – although, I’d go as far as backing what a trusted neighbor confirmed, but that’s just me.
The Guest
There is one group of Westerners who are fighting back: Corsicans. In 2015, when Arabs harassed a local girl on an Ajaccio beach, the men present immediately took action, routing the Muslims: they even trashed a mosque and tore up a copy of the Koran. Armed nationalists then released a tape warning Arabs about the consequences should they continue their belligerent actions against native women. The Muslims got the message and there were no incidents from then until this year.
In early August, a young Corsican man was stabbed several times by an Arab in the town of Calvi. Fortunately, he survived. However, a group of fifty men (this was apparently filmed on camera) plundered the Arab’s house and spray-painted “Arabi fori!” (“Arabs out,” in the local language). They also burnt his car to a crisp and even demolished the bar this presumed Muslim used to frequent. There was no retaliation by the resident Arabs, no marches against “racism.” The only public denunciations were made against the Arab for importing the violence of mainland France to the island. Indeed, even the local leftist party issued a statement denouncing the perpetrator. None of the men involved have been arrested and none will be, since in Corsica the law of omertà still reigns supreme and armed vendettas continue to be a fact of local life.
Jarek: Rumi speaks much and glowingly of “The Guest”.
At other times, Rumi spoke more like a regular Muslim, about keeping women down, etc.
Remember Kojak in the movie Beau Jeste? They knew how to deal with these people.
Islam spreads violence as a credo, ordering violence to convert folks to Islam. Preach to new nations, give them a chance to convert them on their own, then convert them. Man corrupts everything, doesn’t he. Mohammed said many things that countered what Jesus taught, especially evangelism. Jesus said to his disciples that if a town refused to listen to His message, to just leave and”shake the dust from their sandals”. Ie forget it and go on. Not so much from Mohammed.
People managed to turn both prophets word to evil.
Beau Jeste – Jar
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Geste
It should be spelled Jeste though. What a jest!
KJV
The Beginning
(John 1:1-5)
1In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 2And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
The First Day: Light
3And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. 4And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. 5And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
The Second Day: Firmament
6And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters. 7And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so. 8And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
The Third Day: Dry Ground
9And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so. 10And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good. 11And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so. 12And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 13And the evening and the morning were the third day.
The Fourth Day: Sun, Moon, Stars
14And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: 15And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so. 16And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. 17And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth, 18And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. 19And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
The Fifth Day: Fish and Birds
20And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven. 21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good. 22And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth. 23And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
The Sixth Day: Creatures on Land
24And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so. 25And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
26And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth. 29And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. 30And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so. 31And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Jarek: He created by turning the primordial chaos into things separate from other things. The Light from the Dark. The Waters above from the Waters below. The Land from the Sea. Day from Night.
Do you understand? Boundaries are sacred. Things are what they are because they aren’t something else. And this is good, nay “very good”. Who are we to denigrate boundaries? Do those that do live in houses without walls? Or take cruises in ships without hulls?
Being made in His image, we can create with the elements he has given us. If and when we do, we do so by creating boundaries. Those who destroy boundaries without creating anything new thereby are simply demons.
Unreserved apologies Jar and all who read the ‘prophesies’ I’ve put up here.
A fools journey indeed Og.
But hey, anybody catch the sun this morning? Wowza.
Nineveh comes to mind, but I am not pissed at the big guy, rather….
Fool for you…. Linger, the Cranberries, rip young lady.
dailymotion.com/video/x25hyha
I don’t mind the prophecies.
As Christians, we wait and wait and wait. We wait for His glorious intervention into this corrupt realm ruled by the Devil and his minions. We have out faith tested every single day while we continue waiting.
It is only natural to try and tie scripture with current events in our efforts to look towards His great triumph. Alas, no man can know the hour nor day of His return.
We are secured in our roller-coaster seat. It is gonna be one Hell of a ride! Hang onto your hat!
Amen x 2.
I grieve for thee in thy disillusionment. But a good catechism. The new one, Credo, by Bishop Athanasius Schneider (I believe) is supposed to be superb.
But not But
Third try!: Buy not But
All that scripture but only to say nothing in the end. You suck.
No, you suck criticizing someone for his faith in Gods plan. You have no better idea of what is coming than anyone else.
Well said, OG.
That was not for OG, Ace.
You hate boundaries? Therefore you hate the One who made them.
Imagine all things that comprise the universe in a space with no dimension. It is interesting that the origin point of the Big Bang is the same thing as the center of a black hole. A singularity.
The Big Bang, something from nothing. Energy from somewhere that when cooled sufficiently will turn into matter then stars, then complex elements, then galaxies, then planets then life then us.
Physics folks are in a quandary, the newest telescope is telling them things that it shouldn’t. The galaxies near the 13 billion year margin are mature, not immature as was predicted. Could it be? Could our universe be just one of many? Are we seeing material from other universes?
Jarek, Think celestrial. Is Heaven’s day a billion years? Genesis gives a proper order to the evolution of our universe, just change the words days to billion years, the Heavenly equivalency.
Here is an interesting idea. Physics folks are talking about mirror universes, or bubble universes. Universes that may touch each other. Are these touch points white and black holes? Could an organism with infinitely more knowledge than is human, be able to transition between other universes and ours. What would that look like?
A Transfiguration maybe? An Ascension, maybe? A Resurrection, maybe? Passage back and forth may be a snap for these super beings, angels?
Is God a super being that created us 7 days ago in a test flask in His science labs in a mega universe out there?
What is God capable of? Anything He wants!!!!!
BTW, assume that God is a super being running His universe,
Who created Him?
For Jarek and OG
“Who created Him?”
John,
…Human imagination?
A being? He is Being. All there is is is.
That the difference between Odin and the All Father or between Jesus and God the Father.
“We know depopulation is on the top of the agenda of many psychopathic individuals who wants to rule the World, so let see if the earth and its resources are too small to accommodate all of us ?”
https://twitter.com/LFCNewsMedia/status/1713223183254335763
Everything you believe about resource depletion and population is wrong (and deep down, you know it).
Speaking to the carrying capacity cultists, ofc.
😀
If 8 billion people stand shoulder-to-shoulder, with each person inside a separate and adjacent 2’×2′ square, they take up about 1,200 square miles, which is almost the area of Rhode Island, at 1,500 square miles.
Our mystic-intellectual Night Owl seems to think this is a significant statement about global population density, because look how many more Rhode Islands we have, and how many more people we could stack shoulder-to-shoulder…
(Perhaps we could connect them all to a bug-gruel feeding-tube system so that they could stand in place and be nourished, at least until all drowned in their own rising tide of piss and shit..)
For reference, there are 4.5 billion acres of farmland on Earth, and a lot of that is arid grassland that can’t be plowed, and most plowable land is being plowed, including much that requires artificial irrigation to farm.
In any case, if you chopped all Earth’s arable land into 1-person farms, everyone would get about 2 acres, not enough to feed anyone without some heavy hydrocarbon inputs. And we’re headed to 10 billion.
But hand Night Owl a tiktok video (lol) about how many bodies you can stack in Rhode Island, and he feels in his SOUL that human population density is not an issue and concern over it is pure globalist propaganda.
(Same guy upthread asked of this board in a general way, “Does any thinking occur?” 🙂 )
I got to hand it to you there, Gus. You nailed that duck to the wall.
Notice the ratio of 8 billion to 4.5 billion acres of current farmland is .5 acres per person.
My 2 acres of arable land per person actually includes pretty much every square inch of land that is not desert, mountainous or prohibitively cold. It’s PLENTY generous, in other words.
There sure wouldn’t be many iPhones or cars or toasters produced if we devolved to that inefficient division of labour.
Well, who needs phones or cars when everyone on the planet is packed into Rhode Island?
Where you going to go? You have your 2×2 piece of Earth, and that is all you need. If you had a car, you would run over a couple of million of humans. Those concerned about genocide wouldn’t support that!
Just yell if you want to talk to someone else. Everyone is close. No need for phones.
Night Soil shows us how it will be done, with the help of his brilliant Tik Tok video.
“And we’re headed to 10 billion.”
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This type of statement in the context of overshoot is always a head-scratcher to me.
If there isn’t enough food for 10 billion, we are not headed for 10 billion.
We’re headed somewhere higher than 8. The projections are 10B by 2100. But yeah, things could crack up before then.
Cornucopians think projected plateauing at 10 or so is another great reason not to worry. “Population growth is practically over anyway. In fact, THAT may be our REAL problem.”
The population growth is in Indonesia, India, Pakistan, Nigeria, Brazil, Congo, etc. Not a lot of population growth in The Global North as they say.
It seems those most concerned about Climate Change are the ones most concerned about overpopulation and the need to reduce world population to 3 billion. Who’s going to be eliminated? I can’t imagine many will volunteer. Somebody will have to show up in east Asia or Central Africa and inform the people sorry but about 5/8s of you gotta go. Maybe this new Climate Corps Biden is forming up will be the new Einsatzgruppen, trained in genocide, acceptable to globalists and lefties because “it’s for the planet.”
Population-growth doesn’t effect some as much till the dikes holding back the immigration-pressure from far-off places gives way. Of course, the global north is plenty crowded already, no future growth required.
Actually, hordes (the vast majority) of climate-activists will call you a racist/eugenicist/genocidist if you mention the overpopulation issue. All environmental problems are the fault of the “rich 20%” of the world who consume “80% of the resources.” (I’d contest the stat-framework for those percentages).
If you want to reduce population, it’s not THAT difficult or gruesome with a little imagination. Best people to eliminate are the unborn, through birth control and/or just not getting pregnant. Pass a law to this effect and enforce it.
I don’t know why the (lame-ass, softy) Right cannot get behind global population-control advocacy. Yes, growth is more of a global-south issue now, but then effects everyone secondarily. The Left certainly does not have the balls for an issue like this. One might hope the Right would, but one would be absolutely wrong.
I’d like to know how many unjabbed seriously discuss population reduction but never mention the jabs. You are a black swan, Gus.
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I believe that we are at peak population right now. War, famine, pestilence and natural disasters will wipe out billions starting pretty soon, methinks.
BRH,
overpopulation and climate change are two distinct issues. The second is used to avoid talking about the first.
Yes, it’s the 3rd world that breeds more. However, the developed world is the leader in consumption, closing the gap. And the 3rd world also relies on food imports.
As for einsatzgruppen, or killer covid vaccines, or mass murder for depopulation, nobody can support that and not go to hell.
The key is the part of Gustafson’s discussion where he discusses how much land, using primitive farming, foraging, permaculture bio intensive methods, is needed for a basic level of food security for large quantities of (impoverished but maybe wiser) humans. Voluntarily. A few acres should do it, esp if people cooperate, merge them together and work them together, and nobody slacks.
Let’s not confuse the issues. Global warming is a propaganda tool – not an urgent discussion.
And now the rule of the machine is coming. Does AI have any interest in keeping Earth a live and life-giving planet, or will it want to destroy everything to feed itself?
Pop culture impacts sometimes shape the eschaton, mold it, anticipate it. “The matrix” is one.
We really should give up our obsession with technology before it’s too late. It is too late now, probably. AI has become a new and powerful force, coming out of left field. Beware.
We could grow a lot more food in a nonindustrialized way if we didn’t flush all the potential fertilizer down the toilet.
Earth is a closed system, right?
Where is human ingenuity?
Not in the cesspool, where it belongs.
Humanure.
Are you are a poor man who never experienced wealth or Farming or the power of nature?
No.
There is no “power of nature” that can withstand a ratio of one human for every 2 acres of possibly cultivatable land on Earth.
The power of nature we are experiencing now is the power of oil and hydrocarbons. One barrel of oil contains the energy of 5-10 years of physical human labor. Everything about the farming system that feeds 8 billion people now is hydrocarbon-dependent and oil dependent.
There is also no way wild ecological processes can withstand that ratio. We are trading every last wild system, and huge populations of wildlife which have declined 70% since the 1970s, for agricultural systems and livestock and our growing population-—that depend on oil. All or most of the current ag systems are required to feed 8 billion comfortably. We’ve spent many decades perfecting the “efficiency” of this system. There are only so many tricks left in the bag. And we’ve used about 50% of the globe’s oil supply to reach this efficient pinnacle.
As long as your ideas are adopted in your land, no worries, Ok?
They are not welcome or tolerated in the Islamic-Arab world or African countries.
Don’t worry (I guess) because this will never become a majority-supported issue in the West or probabably anywhere.
But, how can you not see it as an issue in that part of the world especially, where many local climates are often unforgiving, and so many people are even more fully and irreplaceably dependent on a taxed oil-supply and on unstable global technological systems for survival?
Aren’t you ‘limits to growth’ people EVER going to give up?
Nothing has altered the landscape. The “anti-Malthusian” skepticism of all things “scarcity” running rampant (especially among the fired-up post-Covid “Great Reset” aware Right)… is just pure bogus delusion. The Rightist Mass-formation psychosis, to match the Left’s.
@ gustafson:
If there are 2 acres of arable land per person in the world, that means there are 8 acres per family of 4, and 10 acres per family of 5, etc. My neighbor hood looks a lot like that, although the acreage per household is more like 5-20, and the most common use of these acreages (after “nothing at all”) is grazing horses. Nevertheless, it is quite a pleasant population distribution.
One thing that I think you are overlooking is that “non-arable” land can be exceedinly useful for food production, as much of it is good grazing land.
A number of years ago, I read an account of how Switzerland, of all places, became food self-sufficient during WWII. Apparently they were cut off from all outside food supplies, and could not import ANYTHING. So they used every inch of arable land to grow food crops. Steeper areas were used for grazing cattle and goats, to provide meat and dairy. So nobody missed a meal.
You mention grasslands as being “not arable,” such areas are often ideal for growing wheat and other grains. If not, they are good grazing lands. Tree fruits and nuts can be grown in areas that are not suitable for tillage.
I think you also underestimate human ingenuity. Most of the food crops eaten today were unknown to the world outside the western hemisphere, as recently as 500 years ago. No one outside the western hemisphere had ever seen, heard of, or eaten: corn, tomatoes, green beans, potatoes, and a dozen other things. If I remember right, the development of many of these food plants is credited to pre-Columbian Peruvians. The Peruvians farmed in the Andes Mountains, which I’m pretty sure are not considered arable lands.
At least some Native Americans seem to have been horticultural geniuses. But to be fair to Europeans and Middle Easterners, their forte seems to have been tree fruits and maybe some small fruits. Apples can only be propagated through grafting, so its astonishing that some varieties have been preserved for hundreds of years.
My point: Humans excel at the development of new varieties of vegetable foods. We’ve been at it for thousands of years.
I have heard that, in Mexico, some people grow corn in areas so steep that it is not uncommon for a person to literally “fall out of his cornfield” and presumably roll down the mountain. My guess: also “not arable.”
It is also possible to reclaim lands and make them arable again.
I think you’re also discounting the fact that, even in a primarily agricultural economy, there is always a percentage of the population that lives and works in cities–probably around 25%. There would also be a percentage who would not be living and working on “arable” land. They would be engaged in ranching, forestry, fisheries, etc.
There is no need to dwell lugubriously on shit that might never happen–usually to find that some kind of entirely different and unforseen shit happens instead.
This is called a straw man, Gus.
But this is all you have.
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All you ever bring to the table, Owl, is that smiley face. The most deluded poster here. An entire psychology built on compulsions to compensate mostly irrationally for avoided weaknesses.
When older posters here, who have some class and maturity, stop posting (supposing this site and similar ones had no expiration-date), there will be no one to replace them.
Ah, yes.
Any hard evidence for us yet on “carrying capacity”? Any solid number on what that even is?
I’ve asked you regularly for about a year, and each week I am disappointed yet again.
‘without some heavy hydrocarbon inputs’ … so? That will continue for a very long time. And, there will never be an energy shortage, as the potential from uranium (and thorium, if you like) is largely without limit.
This is where the overpopulation debate should lead, to analyzing these energy questions closely.
The idea on hydrocarbons is that we are right at the supply peak on oil, which is the most useful and irreplaceable hydrocarbon, especially for mining, agriculture and heavy shipping. After the peak, oil supply declines, and that decline causes economic shocks that can’t be alleviated.
The nuclear debate is the most interesting for longer term scenarios, because there is real energy potential in the fuel. The questions/issues are: 1) It requires electrification, which is much less applicable to the arenas listed above for oil, and also runs into other mineral and metal supply-limits quickly once everything is electrified. 2) Is a transition to full nuclear power, the infrastructure for which requires…lots of oil and such and a functioning economy, even possible as oil declines? And then, there is indefinite infrastructure maintenance on the power-plant fleet that must be powered solely by nuclear electricity before too long as the entire hydrocarbon manufacturing/mining/industrial system goes obsolete. 3) Nuclear accidents, toxicities, water requirements are all real and not nothing, especially for some theoretical long-lifespanned nuclear civilization. 4) Ecological problems related to population-growth limits are not addressed even if the longer termed energy situation could be solved by nuclear power.
Gustafson,
Bravo for opening the only debate worth having. It consists of 3 questions:
– Are there too many of us?
– Are we consuming too much?
– Is it possible to continue this rate of consumption and these human population numbers ad infinitum, and still live in a planet which is recognizably a living and life-giving organism?
Yes, yes, no.
One thing you did with your well thought and well written reply to NO, is generating a most necessary meditation about the realities that surround us, the way we live in this planet. Philosophy. Glimpses, insights, unpleasant facts. Trash that is thrown away in the wake of our gluttony – yet nothing ever “goes away” but into mothers’ milk, oceans, even the DNA sacred helix. What was the cod population 200 years ago, what now? So much to think about.
But you run the risk of being insulted for daring to bring the discussion to the forum. Not a risk really, just an annoyance when someone insults you from a screen. Little tantrums by little men like NO, insignificant stuff. Others who agree with his cornucopian views bring more intellectually challenging material, and those are to be respected and listened to. That’s good. You’re not afraid of a good debate. Neither am I.
The best business in the world would be to buy NO’s intellect for what it’s worth, and sell it for what he thinks it’s worth.
It’s a very good discussion that follows, and I’m reading it with interest.
I agree with most of what you say, gustafson, except for the minor point that the 2 acres per person, wisely worked, would yield enough for a Spartan, bare life for most humans. A better life than this shit of noise, delusion, derangement, greed supreme, mere stupidity and uselessness.
“A better life than this shit of noise, delusion, derangement, greed supreme, mere stupidity and uselessness.” ~ Rulo Deschamps
Exactly, Spartan, but rich. Not a contradiction.
No, four. The Forth being: Who gets to survive? And who goes into the slime pits at the edge of existence and then into non-existence?
Israelis say they get it all. Now, the Palestinians – backed up by the rest of Islam is saying no. They say the Palestinians should get it all.
I agree that Gus did a great job laying out the facts that the cornupocians cannot grasp, with the usual response that if you point out the destruction of the natural world to feed the current population, and the fact that it cannot continue, then you absolutely MUST be advocating genocide. There can be no other conclusion, in their limited minds.
As for whether a human can eke out a spartan existence on 2 acres of land, it depends on where the land is, how it is nurtured, and the weather.
That is why peasants throughout the centuries, very accustomed to eking out spartan existences, routinely died of famine when the rains failed.
Cornupocians believe that nature never fails humans, that any famines are human caused by the evil 1%, and that humans can keep breeding, dividing up their 2 acres among more and more offspring, forever.
Only the addition of fossil fuels, including dams and pumps, has led to the ability of the human population to explode in the last 150 years, especially since widespread poisoning and industrial fishing and agriculture started after WW2.
The human population has grown from 2.35 billion in 1945, to 3.7 in 1970.
1970 is when the conspiracy minded tell us that the “global genocide” commenced.
And now, 50 years later, we are at over 8 billion. You would think that those who claim that there has been 50 years of genocide would slink away in embarrassment, for being proven so very wrong by actual numbers.
You would be wrong. They have no shame and they never let facts get in the way of their deluded claims.
SMDH over here.
Another good and thoughtful presentation of the basic facts, this time from Paula, in my mind one of the best posters here. She will get either an insult and a smiley face from NO, or a deranged attack from Jarek stating that women are weak and should keep their mouths shut. Or both.
A fifty-year depopulation conspiracy resulting… in 220% further growth from the 1970 then-all-time-record-high 3.7B total and still growing now at 8B… lol.
(new-old)/old = (8-3.7)/3.7 = 116% increase.
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Clearly, after 50 years, they have upped their game in the 2020s.
“Basic facts”
You have not provided any facts, Rulo. Nor has Gus.
You have also avoided backing your claim that we are at “carrying capacity”– as well as defining an actual number.
I do not engage in verbal masturbation, because it is all theory. You have no real hard evidence for your claim.
You’d make a terrible lawyer.
NO,
one has to start somewhere, so let’s start with the cod population 200 years ago, and now. Tell me what you think about that, and I’ll tell you what I think in response.
“You’d make a terrible lawyer.” I know. That’s why I’m a farmer.
How about we begin with your premise, Rulo. The genesis of this rather silly spat?
Again, I ask you to submit concrete evidence that we are at “carrying capacity,” as well as define in hard numbers what the carrying capacity of the planet is.
Lay out the known sources/stores of naturally occuring consumables around the globe, the ability to transport and prepare them for consumers effectively, and the means by which you are calculating their ability to sustain us (or not) over a specific time horizon.
When you have finished, discuss technology and how it has allowed us to prosper as as species and why technology could not be used to fill in gaps or open up new sources of energy for society (meaning all sources, oil, gas, harvesting and prep. of various foodstuffs).
Show us that you really have hard evidence that we need to depopulate the planet in order to survive some resource apocalpyse–date of occurance unknown, ofc.
NO:
“You have also avoided backing your claim that we are at “carrying capacity”– as well as defining an actual number.”
It is not possible to define an actual number, because reasons I have laid out in past threads so not gonna do it again.
So I count the constant harping on an actual number as key to anything as a red herring—kind of like harping on CO2 levels as the key factor in climate change.
No one thing/number explains everything or answers all questions.
I call this thought mode the Casaubon Effect..
(In Middlemarch, you will recall, Casaubon was the dry old scholar who wasted his mental efforts and [mis]spent his life looking for ‘the key to all mythologies.’])
So NO wants me to write a doctoral dissertation here.
That’s not how it’s gonna be. You say I provided no facts. I mentioned a few things in passing, so we can focus on just one, the cod population.
Not only will I not write a doctoral dissertation for your amusement and power plays, I won’t provide any information or links about the cod issue either.
This is how it works: you use that huge IQ you brag about to give not me but us, the readers, your take on the cods. Is that fishery abundant? What’s it food significance? Are enough fish being spawned? 2 lines or 100, the sky’s the limit.
Then I, or others, can present what we know or think. I suggest you start your search browsing professional marine biologists websites as well as fishery ministries and other gov’ts information. Scandinavian, Spanish and Canadian research will be especially useful, as historically those nations have depended on cod harvests.
After we discuss that, in subsequent weeks, we move on to fertile soils. Then, to drinking water. Then, to antibiotic resistance and hormonal damage from industrial poultry operations.
Another thing: I explained to you in the past how “technology” doesn’t equal “resources” – you can have the chainsaw (technology) but without gas, oil, or a tree to cut down (resources), it’s only a museum piece.
Carrying capacity is determined by a confluence of limits on energy supply, non-energy-resource supply, ecological disturbances, and stability of economic setups.
Discussion should start at energy supply and at peak oil. Cornucopians need to present a rational and viable energy solution to hydrocarbon decline.
(Hint: There is no such solution that carries civilization forward more than a century or two tops. Cornucopians have not even begun to look into it. They simply cross their fingers and say, “Something will come along and work out somehow.” The onus is on the Cornucopian to outline this novel energy solution and prove why a conservative approach that does not assume some hereto unknown and nameless technological solution will appear in the nick of time…is not the prudent course. The onus is on the cornucopian to account for peak oil and peak hydrocarbon, and to present some kind of viable energy-transition map. Nobody’s done it yet.)
Yes, Islander, it is not possible.
But the claimant must back the claim.
I knew the outcome from the start. No one can claim we are at carrying capacity, or even say what that term amounts to, because there is no hard evidence for it.
It is like being surrounded by kids, showing them a biscuit, and telling them that they only get it when they can prove He-Man is stronger than Skeletor.
It is an easy way to show up the pretentious twats around here claiming that we all have to die for their theories.
Oh Lord God, He-man and Skeletor have been invoked. This really changes the game. Gonna to have to regroup and rethink things; I did not see this coming.
Yes, Gus.
At apt example.
As I said, only one of us knew the outcome from the start.
Unless you have hard evidence?
My door is always open.
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Right, HeMan and Skeletor. Ladies and germs, you be the judge: does NO have the intellectual chops to even be sitting at this discussion?
You chickened out, NO. I suggested an easy thread to start a discussion: one fishery in one area of the world. After you use your enormous brain to explain how Portuguese salted cod will always be plentiful “because technology”, we can move on to many other relevant data points to arrive at conclusions.
And he is signing off kids.
He-Man looks like an easy win, so he no longer has to proove his claim.
Noice!
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Thanks Rulo! Wish there was more good debate on these most central and essential topics, but there’s often not a lot of interest in debate from those with opposing stances.
Not sure about an actual 2 acre-per-person-with-no-land-left-over setup, but the sentiment stands, a simpler, richer life divorced from tech insanity.
You, G, have taken the old job of Mr K: pointing out the obviousness of resource depletion, the causes leading to it, and its consequences. In that sense, you are the one keeping the flame alive.
Our predicament is deep. We have gone collectively insane.
I think general public dialogue will continue to just devolve into utter inanity, the collective insanity will only deepen.
And that’s okay. It will force people to simply face the immediacy of their local circumstances, as we all should… a path to something better!
” It will force people to simply face the immediacy of their local circumstances, as we all should… a path to something better!”
Bravo.
Local circumstances is basically all anyone can have any effect on. Especially given the political realities everywhere one looks.
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“Local circumstances is basically all anyone can have any effect on. Especially given the political realities everywhere one looks.”
Islander
“It will force people to simply face the immediacy of their local circumstances, as we all should… a path to something better!”
gustafson
Full agreement here. As Mr K used to say, the behemoth, global superstructures face disappearance in an energy starved future, from the Pentagon to WalMart.
County-level politics and awareness and involvement are what matters at this point. With elections compromised, and supply chains crumbling, and a propaganda machine insisting everything is a-ok, why bother arguing with a largely numb, distracted and, frankly, stupid mass of Coke vs Pepsi supporters?
Taking the easy way out. Most of us here live conservatively.
Meanwhile, your nutbar claim remains unbacked.
Unless …
Become something other than a basic pud, NO. Study a bit before you speak.
LOL.
You couldn’t make it up.
Such a faggot stance to lift no finger to grasp any involved issues until some sweet bird of absolute proof from the sky is presented on a platter… yet still be a loudmouth.
You are unable to support cornu positions in the slightest way, or engage the opposition.
You’ve got a door open alright.
[Gus is] not afraid of a good debate. Neither am I.
OK, Rulo. I propose that I can tell much about a man simply from his GLT score. You call my Sociology test and my theories of what it reveals “stupid.” That’s not debate. We all know that.
What’s your GLT? Let’s debate.
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the only debate worth having
That’d be boring if it were correct. Thankfully it is just stupid.
OK, OG. I remember when you appeared as a poster. I can say you had a sense of humor, not a big ego except in claiming a high IQ (we all have small silly stuff like that, so that’s not a disqualifier), you were capable of laughing at yourself, passionate about your convictions, very religious, open about his struggles with alcohol (I hope you have managed to stay sober since then, and wish you a good a sober life).
That guy, in his first iteration, disappeared. Some ugly business about a divorce, a court situation, stuff nobody here, not me at least, were interested in.
He came back a while back, now with a silly test, more an exercise in control over others than a genuine intellectual artifact. If you had read things I posted in the past, you’d know I probably score a high number in your test. I’m not about to take it because I don’t like bullies and don’t like being told what to do by strangers.
I do miss the religious, humorous, sober guy with strong convictions he’d be willing to argue, no personal vendettas or stuff that only clutters the forum. I can accept and debate (if I want, if I’m logged in, if I have anything to say) your points of view, of course.
Yes, the only debate worth having, like your house being on fire. Say why not, say what’s more important.
I don’t recall calling your theories or test “stupid”, OG. I stay vigilant about not going into personal attacks, so I’m surprised this one slipped. I’m not going to request a copy and paste of that.
If I did, I apologize.
Compliance to your test demanded from all is a bit creepy though, no?
“Covid is unquestionalby real,” “masks work,” “OMG Israel and Palestine,” “we are overpopulated,” “once the oil runs out, eveything is over–you will see!” The consistency among some here [CFN] is remarkable. Does any thinking occur?
I say that this is the most extremely bizarre strawman-spewing that I have ever witnessed in all my time here at CFN. Strawmen so lame that I’m embarrassed for the little girl – and her lame little strawmen were completely unprovoked and just randomly directed generically at everyone. Yuck!
Nobody ever says any of those things ever while you claim that some do often, little girl. What a weasel!
So then how do you justify your embarrassing bullshit and defend your childish, corrupt actions? You don’t, of course. You just ad hom me, of course. Because that’s what little girls do, little girl. Of course.
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“I got your savoir faire right here!”
I love these posts.
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OG is obviously VERY pleased with the “little girl” thing he came up with!
“Little girl” is the perfect nickname for Mashed potatoes zilch nada because she acts and argues exactly like a little girl (and exactly unlike a man).
Yes, Isles. calling an annoying little twerp who thinks that she’s smart (but is, relatively, a mental pee wee) by this apt moniker is, indeed, VERY pleasing.
He either doesn’t like or really, really likes little girls.
The use as an insult is most interesting.
Again with the red-herring ad homs while you speak to me as though I’m not even in the room.
You’re the one who acts like a little girl, little girl. I, personally, like little girls just fine. There were four of them at a Thanksgiving family gathering last Monday. Adorable. I believe that they are well on their way to becoming fine young women.
But I don’t turn to them for debate on whether war in the ME is worth of discussion on CFN. Because they are little girls, little girl.
In fact, such stupidity is shocking on CFN at all! Of course war in the ME is worthy of discussion on CFN, ya dope. Think about it.
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This is not about me, Mszn. This is about you. No more red-herring ad homs. You are the one who made these ridiculous allegations against us, little girl.
Either justify what you have slagged us all with or recant and apologize.
A or B, little girl.
LOL.
Absolutely unhinged.
“while you speak to me as though I’m not even in the room.”
I guess you mean “speak of me. . . . ”
Glad you seem to have learned that such behavior is rude.
You brought these embarrassing strawmen to our serious discussion. You did that. Unprovoked and completely out of the blue. You claim that people here regularly spout the nonsense words that you have placed in their mouths for us all to see.
I don’t give a flying fuck if you “love” my posts calling you on your bull shit, Mszn, but now that you have been called, it is your responsibility to either justify what you have erroneously claimed or to retract it, Weasel.
A or B.
This time, you owe all of us an apology, little girl.
“You owe all of us an apology . . .”
You do sound unhinged, repeating this rant. Including the notion that you speak for everyone here. LOL.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts about me with the group, Isles. God bless you.
We are all here to share our thoughts with the group, Hogger.
Only you seem to believe that you have power to decide on who that might be.
I don’t want to discourage you, however, as I greatly enjoy your repeated attempts to do so.
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Constipated logic on full display!
Biden: “Israel has a right to defend itself and its people – full stop”
jpost.com/israel-news/article-763172
And yet “Joe Biden” and his department of justice has no intention of protecting the citizens of the US, and if a citizen protects himself, he is run through the ringer of “Joe Biden’s” department of justice!
Bodega worker in Rikers on murder charge after stabbing attacker in self-defense
nypost.com/2022/07/06/nyc-bodega-worker-jose-alba-charged-in-fatal-stabbing-feared-for-his-life-family-says/
“It would not be that surprising that someone thinks that harm is going to come to them or that they are going to be robbed, particularly if the woman that you just got into a verbal argument with is also with this person, and ended up taking her own knife out of a purse and stabbing my client,” Alba’s attorney Michelle Villasenor-Grant said at his arraignment Saturday.
Still, the gal pal-instigator is free while Alba could go away for 15 to 25 years if convicted on the second-degree murder charge.
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… and the civil unrest in the US is only getting started.
But the good news is, that when civil unrest in the US is in bloom, “Joe Biden” will capitalize on the opportunity.
“Kettling” the elderly because . .. covid.
“Kettling” the Palestinians because . . . Hamas . . . suicide bombers . . . Arafat . . . et cetera
… and for all those who think the 2020 election was fair, this is one of the guys that stole my vote (start at 4:10).
Bret Baier presses former intel official on discrediting Hunter Biden laptop
msn.com/en-us/video/watch/bret-baier-presses-former-intel-official-on-discrediting-hunter-biden-laptop/vi-AA1ibLnW
Dylan Mulvaney for Miss Gaza, 2023!
The Emir of Qatar has announced that if the bombing of Gaza does not stop, he will stop the supply of gas to the world.
“The issue of Palestine is the issue of a people uprooted from their land and displaced from their homeland.”#IsraelTerrorists… pic.twitter.com/g5woXuH0GJ
— Khanzadah I Awadh (@Khanzadah_) October 13, 2023
The refugees are being bombed as they flee. And Aid workers as well.
I put that in a search engine and most are saying the Emir has announced no such thing. But the price of oil is most assuredly rising because of problems in the ME. The question is how much?
As for refugees and aid workers being bombed deliberately – why? Why would Israel waste bombs killing helpless and harmless people? They might well need those bombs somewhere else if Hezbollah, Syria, and Iran decide to enter the arena of battle.
Wars and rumors of wars in an area mostly ruled by wierd beard fuzzy faced old men and robe wearing patriarchs. Patriarchs that can’t give up the ancient tribal wars and the dreams of vengeance. And a Nut-n-Yahoo leader bragging about what he’s gonna do. Like a some of the Southern rednecks I’v encountered in my youth. Nut-n-Yahoo’s bombastic war talk reminds me of the once viral “whup ass” prank phone call recordings made by John Bean.
You tube search C & C Auto or Eddies Auto. Bunch of crazy hillbillys……
How much? You can paint plausible scenarios where the sky is the limit. Conflict begins between Hizbullah and Israel, Syria joins, then Iraq and Iran start sending weapons. Iran closes the Straight of Hormuz …
Already under way:
US warns Iran against escalating Israel-Hamas war into regional conflict
Washington has privately communicated to Tehran, US national security adviser says
https://www.ft.com/content/8f78ed3e-0471-4bdf-b49f-54e4d614b2af
Iran threatens Israel over looming ground offensive in Gaza: report
Iran FM warns Israel of ‘huge earthquake’ should Lebanon’s Hezbollah get involved
https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-threatens-israel-looming-ground-offensive-gaza-report
Will Iran really take marching orders from the USA?
Because two US convoys have cruised into the eastern Med?
Where they are sitting ducks?
Uh . . .
P.S.
Remember the Liberty!!
Add another fun wildcard. The Turks are consulting with Russia about sending in a humanitarian naval convoy as well.
Remember when they tricked Archie into buying aluminum siding? Cuz those A-Rabs where gonna make us freeze in the dark?
It is the stupidest conflict in history. And as such, it could well be used to bring about the crisis the WEFsters want.
Could be solved in a day if the forces supplying arms to Hamas and Israel wanted to.
Nah! That makes too much sense.
Could be used to roll out CBDC globally at halftime of WW3.
Zee Polycvisis, Ron!
Yes! A “halftime.” I wonder who’ll be performing this year? Taylor Swift, no doubt.
it could well be used to bring about the crisis the WEFsters want
Gee, do you really think so?
Yes, that is why I typed it.
Whoosh!
OMG Israel and Palestine
Indeed.
I always said Alex Berenson was a gatekeeper during the Covid Hoax (despite many here believing him some kind of truth teller). Just saw now that he is more or less calling for genocide in Gaza.
https://twitter.com/consent_factory/status/1713326794374332595
Character is easy to judge if you know what to look for.
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Via-a-vis matters of character and judgement, I have discovered a virtually foolproof method for assessing a situation. If the woke are for it, I’m against it… and the woke are all in for the Palis, then being oppressed and all
So that’s one vote for exterminate, then?
Not exactly. Just pointing out the disconnect (hypocrisy?) of decrying the woke idiocy, as is often done on this forum, and then jumping on the woke bandwagon when it aligns with one’s, shall we call them, “personal feelings”. It strikes this casual observer as a wee bit comical.
Assuming that your enemy is always wrong, no matter what, without any further fact-finding and analysis is the m.o. of a fool.
I guess that your method does save you from having to think, if that’s your goal.
That sounds positively intersectional.
It sure does! Hey – are you familiar with the GLT, Kinger?
The GLT is intersectioning (i.e. practicing Sociology) at its very finest (if I do say so myself).
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GLT:
For each of these 10 big historical events, score a 1 if you believe that it was a black op and a 0 if you believe the official story.
JFK ~ 1963
USS Liberty ~ 1967
MLK ~ 1968
RFK ~ 1968
OKC ~ 1995
9/11 ~ 2001
London Subway Bombings ~ 2005
’08 Crash/Housing Bubble/Hank-Paulson Treasury
Looting ~ 2008
Boston Marathon ~ 2013
Vegas Turkey-Shoot ~ 2017
What is your score?
[20231015]
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Note: London Subway Bombings has been added while Nashville Christmas [i.e. destruction of 2020 election fraud evidence] has been dropped.
I can’t agree with that. Most of the woke are not all that intelligent, and many are too young to be able to come to a balanced decision on emotionally charged issues.
The Israel and Pal conflict is stupid, and driven by forces outside of Israel and Palestine. Both have blood on their hands, and Israel in particular has sunk to a depth that effectively makes them a terrorist state.
Thing is, they are terrorists for their controllers, and the bovine herd has no idea who that is or why.
It is a waste of time and entirely uninteresting.
I have to agree with most of that. I do think it’s quite interesting, however. It’s a living illustration of the value of propaganda in the hands of skilled practitioners with very large microphones.
Yes, I was a poli-sci student in college, and I never thought I would get to see some of the concepts I spent so much time on actually come to life in such a theatrical and over-the-top manner.
We often think history is just history, but everything can happen again.
We do live in interesting times. Stupid, too, but interesting.
Thing is, they are terrorists for their controllers, and the bovine herd has no idea who that is or why.
Are you fucking kidding?
DO YOU?
Hamas are filthy terrorists who are bound to a religion that almost demands killing Jews;
That’s the spirit!
Character is easy to judge if you know what to look for.
Can ya learn us? We shore wish that we had a big brain like you! Please tell us what to look for when judging Alex Berenson’s character. I shore am glad to be assured that it’s “easy.”
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FYI – Your smiley-face signature is childlike, little girl.
You do wish that, OG. I know.
But your brain is tiny. Like Maj and Cargill before you.
Berenson. Sounds Norwegian. But is he? He don’t look it. More like Norwegian wood.
He is a crafty fella. I miss the pic of the intrepid “freedom fighter” with a mask dangling from his chin in his profile pic as he pulled the lever on the soft serve machine for three years, basking in his own glory.
Taibbi-esque.
I don’t think Berenson’s position on Gaza means that he is a covid gatekeeper. He may be a gatekeeper, but I don’t think positions on Palestine prove it.
Many good minds that saw through the covid hoax have fallen right back into line regarding the Palestinians. This is the widespread cognitive dissonance syndrome among both American Jews and American “progressives”
Regarding the genocidal goings-on in Palestine, it’s “See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil.” It’s incredible, really.
This cognitive dissonance is manifest at the Daily Sceptic, a site with very good coverage of challenges to official narratives on covid, the dangers of the tranny delusion, the climate change and Net Zero delusion, and much else.
Yet they are all in with the official Zionist narrative, decrying the Al Aqsa breakout while ignoring the decades-long atrocity that is the Zionist project in Palestine. Such as, say, Operation Cast Lead.
And also jumping to hysterically emotional conclusions and suddenly believing everything they see presumably in the MSM on which they normally cast a jaundiced eye.
They always accept the idea that any resistance by Hamas or other groups justifies ethnic cleansing and genocide of Palestinians and theft of more Palestinian land. Even though resistance to occupatoin and oppression is a right enshrined in the UN charter (or something–international law).
Presumably Berenson is Jewish, his critical thinking faculties are addled when it comes to the Jews, including in Palestine. Always the victims. Period.
I wonder whether Berenson grasps that the govt of Netanyahu treated the Israeli populace like lab rats, forcing experimental jabs on them—but at least the Israelis produced fairly reliable data on the negative effects, and many Israeli doctors were the first to call out the potentially genocidal jabs. .
No matter how many times concepts have been posted, cited, and explained here. No matter how many warnings, premonitions, and foreshadowings as well. No matter how many times events have been reviewed, analysed, and unpacked, the regular readership, the regular contributors, more than anyone, somehow manage to get it all wrong.
It is not about Isreal vs Palestine.
It is not about Ukraine vs Russia
It is about the war machine vs the suffering NPC’s.
It is about empire vs the individual.
It is about 1-world vs sovereign nation.
It is not about disinformation and hate speech vs the easily influenced.
It is about the control of information.
It is about controlling the agenda of the masses.
It is not about J-6 insurrections and pandemics.
It is about controlling the individual through fear and punishment, not just through law, but through public sphere/opinion: i.e., “election denier” anti-science” “anti-vax”.
It is not about carrying capacity and having enough food.
It is about quality of life and quality of the planet and the OTHER life onboard the Earth.
This particular argument is very disingenuous and very revealing.
As if the sum desire and aspiration of mass humanity is to eat. To subsist.
It is not about controlling population growth through mass murder.
It is about managing population growth to decline through the very real resource, energy, and wealth scarcity. And yes, things can be available and scarce at the same time. See the record number of billionaires and their cache of resource/commodity wealth. Here’s a thing: they’re not surrendering anything, you ARE!
Again, even if you believe that there is plenty of fossil fuel or nuclear energy, you have to be a fool to deceive yourself that this planet can survive billions of humans consuming an energy and resource dependent lifestyle on par with what they ALL desire at bare minimum: a western working-class/lower-class lifestyle. Here’s a hint: this is why ALL the migration is TOWARDS developed western countries. They want more than to subist. More than to eat. Here’s a shocking fact: they want enjoyable, productive, meaningful lives for themselves and their children. They want a home, a car, a dog, and vacations, and taco night.
To think that human civilization, in its present form, with the lifestyles everyone here are accustomed to, are not the result of an unnatural spike and spurt brought by cheap and abundant energy and human labor, you are totally delusional. If you fail to see that people, from eveywhere, are coming to have or take what you have, you are delusional. If you think our planet, let alone our civilization, can provide what you have and enjoy to everyone, you are again, delusional. If you think the oceans can provide mahi mahi fillets, nova scotian mussels, and spicy tuna rolls for everyone: you are delusional.
If you think farms and ranches can provide porterhouses and weekly burger nights to everyone: you are delusional.
If you think you, here, the people towards the bottom of the wealth and resource pyramid, are not the ones who do not have the most to lose in this era of rsource/energy/wealth reckoning, the one they TELL us IS coming: own nothing, rent, live in mud buildings, eating insect proteins. You are beyond delusional, you are suicidal.
What is a tomahawk steak at 7x the price to a billionaire? Gasoline?
Flights? Real estate at 5x? Cars at 3x? Itis nothing. For you it means nothing. But just think how happy your children will be, living in an enormous brutalist concrete tower, in 200 square feet, dining on cricket paste and looking forward to that one flight per 5 years vacation to another brutalist tower, with spicer cricket paste, and a bit more sun, when not blocked out by the brutalist towers.
In sum, THEY AKA the ultra-wealthy, the elite, the shot-callers, are not giving up anything. If you do not want population decline, particularly of those, coming for you and what you have, you WILL have lifestyle decline. YOU not THEY. Alas, but a future of scarcity and depravity and slavery does not dim the pride in knowing that our planet has more than enough to allow everyone to eat… even if I’m on the menu.
WTF are you talking about? What an embarrassing display of horse shit.
No matter how many times events have been reviewed, analysed, and unpacked, the regular readership, the regular contributors, more than anyone, somehow manage to get it all wrong.
And then you proceed to type (forever) telling us what we already know and discuss. Get bent.
It is not about disinformation and hate speech vs the easily influenced. It is about the control of information. It is about controlling the agenda of the masses.
Do ya think?
Is it about Lahaina 8/8, you jargon-spewing, pompous prick? Is it about DEWs, Marshall McLuhan?
What a joke.
Yes, the Forth Question – the one that Rulo knows about but left out.
Who stays and who goes?
Whites think they have to take a side in this and every other conflict because they have forgotten to take their own side for generations.
Tucker and Suburban Elk are trying to remind them. Rulo wants them to keep on forgetting.
Racial consciousness in the equation is fine. At this point, a global one-child policy would benefit Whites, so the only reason I see for complete lack of support for a policy like this while the West still has perhaps enough economic leverage globally to possibly accomplish something… utter stupidity, among the rank-and-file particularly but also all the way up, is the only explanation.
Jarek, fourth.
No, it’s not a valid question, because forced depopulation, or genocide, cannot enter the realm of the possible.
Nobody can decide who lives and who dies. Except Nature herself. Eugenics has been dead for a long time. Let everyone try their hand farming, in whatever land can be found. After a hundred years, or so, you’ll see who survived.
I cannot know, but I suspect it will be a mix of all human skin colors, all very strong, smart, and having learned to cooperate with each other, live frugal lives of contemplation and hard work, and reject the seductions of the whore of Babylon.
Israel isn’t going to survive without diversity and multiculturalism. The borders must be opened and the walls thrown down. Let all who wish, enter. Try and get along with them, will you? For a change?
Ahh… the gift that keeps on giving! Still think the idea of a black flag in Gaza didn’t have all kinds of secondary and tertiary benefits? Even worked in the word ‘flags’ just to rub our nose in it.
FBI Director Chris Wray warns of spike in reported domestic threats linked to Israel’s war against Hamas
FBI Director Chris Wray flags ‘increase in reported threats,’ warns to look out for ‘lone actors’ amid ‘heightened environment’
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-director-chris-wray-warns-spike-reported-domestic-threats-linked-israel-war-against-hamas
Look at the bright side… it gives a distinct Samuel Beckett flavor to the Cadaver-in-Chief’s pronouncement that white supremacy is the greatest threat facing the country.
Not Climate Change?
Well, History does repeat.
David Friedman, former US Ambassador to Israel, calls for the complete annihilation of Hamas. He suggests that there must be a solution, perhaps a “final solution” to the strife in the Levant, is implicit in his argument.
https://nypost.com/2023/10/14/israel-must-achieve-complete-annihilation-of-hamas-former-us-ambassador-david-friedman/
Listen to the carefully crafted triggering rhetoric:
“But this wasn’t a military attack by a national army.
Rather, it was a barbaric assault by murderous thugs directed against civilians in their homes and young adults at a “peace concert.”
The heartbreaking results are now well documented: decapitated babies; the ruthless slaughter of entire families; the kidnapping of more than 100 people; including Holocaust survivors’ and the rape, murder and dismemberment of young women.
This was the worst campaign of murder, torture and abuse of the Jewish People since the Holocaust.”
E. I think the IDF will try to keep civilian casualties to a minimum. Their goal is to root out Hamas, not wantonly kill Palestinians. Civilians in S Gaza have already been warned to clear out.
Their goal is to root out Hamas, not wantonly kill Palestinians.
Who told you that, Heckler?
“Minimum’s” doing a lot of work there.
BRH:
“E. I think the IDF will try to keep civilian casualties to a minimum. Their goal is to root out Hamas, not wantonly kill Palestinians. Civilians in S Gaza have already been warned to clear out.”
Clear out = you are never coming back.
And we will bomb you along the way. Kind f like prodding cattle to make sure they keep going in the right direction to the slaughterhouse.
Clear out = ethnic cleansing.
To BRH that sounds humanitarian!!
But I don’t think BRH really pays attention, because it is the Gazans in NORTH GAZA who have been ordered to clear out on 24 hours’ notice.
But:
”
Routes to southern Gaza unsafe
Nowhere to go from the south
Israel gears up for expected ground offensive
Many Gazans have refused to leave their homes for the south, fearing a repeat of the “Nakba” or “catastrophe”, when many Palestinians fled or were forced from their homes during the 1948 war that accompanied Israel’s creation.
“Some 700,000 Palestinians, half the Arab population of what was British-ruled Palestine, were dispossessed and displaced, many spilling into neighbouring Arab states where they or many of their descendants remain. Many still live in refugee camps.”
But Lahaina 8/8 was on the up-and-up. Got it.
“Some 700,000 Palestinians” left Israel in 1948.
Now, after 70 years of genocide, there are only 5,402,655 left, growing at a rate of one new Palestinian every 4.32 minutes.
A tragic case of ethnic cleansing.
//worldpopulationreview.com/countries/palestine-population
Puts one in mind of the genocide of the global population since 1970, leaving only 8 billion humans on the planet.
Tragic.
BRH,
But who can tell the Hamas from the civilians without a scorecard?
Who knows what the IDF thinks?
Who knows what BB thinks?
Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men?
…The Shadow do….
I often say that the mark of a great movie for me can be gauged by how often I find myself thinking about it the next day.
I saw just such a movie last night. Blackberry.
imdb.com/title/tt21867434/?ref_=vp_close
The story of the rise and fall of the device that ushered in the smart phone, the “crackberry,” is brilliantly told and acted in this fast-paced tragedy. It’s a wonderfully executed Time Machine (1996-2008). It is a heck of a 2-hour ride!
Note: The long-haired/bandana actor, Matthew Johnson, is also the brilliant director.
Canadian cinema is so good yet so economically unfeasible. Blackberry is available on many platforms and is well-worth the few bucks and the two hours. It had to be a true story – nobody could’ve wrote that.
Looks pretty good. Glad I never got caught up in that craze. I remember so many people totally caught up in the things. Real status symbols. The Apple piece of shit I have to use for work now is trouble enough. Speaking of which, I have to go in and get it “reprovisioned” tomorrow, whatever in the hell that means.
Crackberries were status symbols … but they were also leashes. I remember being in a restaurant or a commuter train frantically typing away trying to solve some work problem or another back in that era when most people did not yet have such a device. I’d send my correspondence and raise my head to looks of longing jealousy. I remember thinking, “It’s not as cool as you think” as my anxiety sky-rocketed on what was supposed to be my downtime.
Yep. Now the i-phones fill that same roll. I leave mine at my desk at home all day. If I’m sitting at my computer I’ll answer it, no time else. The email on it crashed and I’ve never reinstalled it. All that and a battery hog too. I leave it tethered to the charging cord all day long.
I seem to recall that Obama was a Blackberry bot.
Watching video of the pro Palestinian rallies across the country. In big cities but in college campuses too. I notice Trannies & Hipster types are getting in on the aktion. But its Arabs with head wraps who have control of the bullhorns and are leading the chants.
“No peace on stolen land!”
“There is only one solution
Violent Intifad revolution!”
Stuff like that. Over & over.
Strange thing, at the Universities anyway, participants in the crowd appear to be mostly young, white overweight coeds, with purple or green hair, nose rings, wierd eyeglasses, & dressed in black. At Clemson a few days ago there was a rather large rally because the Administration removed tampon dispensing machines from men’s restrooms and men’s locker rooms. The women (mostly) rallying for Palestine seem almost identical to the women pissed about the tampon machine removal policy. Indeed it may be the same group moving around to different events. This is where the LBGQT crowd intersects with violent Jihad lol.
I’ll say it again (and again)
“Dylan Mulvaney for Miss Gaza, 2023”
Who’s with me?
You think I’m kidding?
Its not for nothing the Ukrainian Army appointed some American dude who presents himself as a woman (with a blond wig & falsies) as their main military Spokes (person).
Those orders came right from Admiral Rachel Levine (stunning & brave) himself.
Before this discussion goes much further, I believe a land acknowledgment is in order:
This latest greatest dress rehearsal for Armaddedon is being held on the lands of the ancient peoples of the First Nations: the Kingdom of Israel, 10th century BC.
Thing is, it is stolen land.
Some rich and crafty assholes from Cool Britannia stole it for the Zionists in 1917, and it has been used as a globalist foothold in the ME ever since.
The war should be between the rest of the world and the crafty assholes.
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You demand that we don’t discuss war in the ME while you then provide a kindergarten review of it yourself? You are some piece of work, zilch nada.
I see we may have a new Majella in the works.
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Right. It’s never about you, little girl.
Who/what is Majella?
Of course it is about stolen land.
Justified by racism of The Chosen colonizers.
One of their notions:
We can use this land better than the ragheads, so we have a right to ir.
That was also the justification of early European settlers in North America.
But the proof of the pudding is in the eating . . .
Population of Palestine in 1914: 722,000.
Population of same area in 1945:
Ca. 1.7 million
Population of same area in 2019:
Ca. 9.7 million.
Obviously, the Zionist incursion has increased the carrying capacity of this little corner of planet Earth by about 900%.
httpX://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Palestine_(region)
We need a two poster solution between you two.
Why? I love OG’s posts.
An answer to question from a young child:
Alright, so here’s what’s going on. In a land far, far
away, there’s a giant prison that’s full of people who
shouldn’t be there at all and the prison was built by a
bunch of people who have a history of being hated for
no reason at all and the reason they built the prison
was because they thought it would keep them safe if
they locked up the locals who they thought might be
part of the group who hated them for no reason at all.
So anyway, the leaders of the people who have a
history of being hated for no reason at all have lost
their minds from the terrible stress of being prison
guards for so long and have gotten into the unfortunate
habit of doing hateful things and being horribly cruel to
their prisoners who are in prison for no reason at all
and over time this has made some of the prisoners
themselves lose their minds with their own hatred and
want to be horribly cruel to the people for who have a
history of being hated for no reason at all.
So one day the prisoners who lost their minds left the
prison and murdered a bunch of non-prisoners who
shouldn’t have been murdered at all and now people
who run the prison are planning to increase their
horrible cruelty towards the prisoners who shouldn’t
be in prison at all and nobody outside the land that’s
far, far away will know what to say because nobody wants
to be accused of being hateful towards the people who
have a history of being hated for no reason at all or
being indifferent to the agony of the people who are
being treated so cruelly in the giant prison that should
never have been built in the first place. I hope that
clears everything up, Dove.
theautomaticearth.com/2023/10/debt-rattle-october-15-2023/
Amen, Yirgach!
That’s really good!
I don’t know.. there are plenty of reasons for all of this.
Yes, there are many reasons. This little screed was someone’s attempt at collecting a a general synopsis of the problem.
“I don’t know.. there are plenty of reasons for all of this.”
Can you list the ones you have in mind?
Also, what do you mean by “this”?
Didn’t mean to be particularly negative…I don’t have kids, but if I did, I wouldn’t probably tell them that there’s a “people with a history of being hated for no reason at all.”
I’d say, “Humans are often dangerous and greedy. Sometimes people fight. Sometimes people feel threatened. Gotta be smart and try to come out on top.”
Just an alternative option to a parenting solution, I guess.
On top of a lot of other admonitions to be cool, be calm, be nice, warm, respectful, understanding, slow to anger, open-minded and hearted… unless there’s some particularly good reason not to be, and there will be a few times when there are reasons not to be.
After thinking about it I’ve realized that I personally do not care about the Palestinian/Israeli conflict. Brutal and bloody wars are after all a staple of life in that region of the world. And that never really changes. Both Israel and especially Gaza are very densely populated, so even if there wasn’t the religious and ethnic strife there would be fighting over resources and land. If anything, the current fighting is another cautionary tale regarding the existential chasm of dense human populations living in such a small space. But these sort of distant hostilities also give people an opportunity to opine upon morals they don’t really have. War isn’t just a business venture. For many people enjoying the spectacle from the sidelines it is an opportunity to reinforce their illusions of moral superiority and further aggrandize their morbidly obese egos.
They are actually fighting over resources and land.
The religion is just the excuse.
and all in a desert, no less
Can you describe what a morbidly obese ego is?
Is it something which transcends the philosophical into the physical?
How does that happen?
What does it mean?
Just asking.
use your imagination and you’ll see 🙂
Thank you.
I’m thinking Al Gore.
yes, that’s a good one lol
Chuck Schumer, Mitt Romney, and a bipartisan Senate delegation were rushed to a bomb shelter in Tel Aviv to wait out a Hamas rocket barrage earlier today. It would be greatly appreciated if Israeli politicians would remain in Israel and stop coming here and pretending to be US Senators.
Better still, the entire US Congress goes to Israel and never comes back. Swear ’em into the IDF and put ’em on the front lines. Shelters are for pussies.
I like your plan better, Dis!!
China has now weighed in with a pro-Palestinian slant.
Russia has called for an immediate ceasefire.
Iran has warned that if Israel enters Gaza, Iran will get involved.
Israel has postponed the planned invasion due to “weather”.
The US is sending warships to make sure Israel doesn’t back down (shades of Boris and Zelensky)
Alex covers the news.
.youtube.com/watch?v=PjQbiZDVaqM
And yet there was no vote on that. Matt Gaetz said that the government has Israel on autopay, so ultimately even a government shutdown wouldn’t affect US dollars flowing to Israel. Totally unreal. And to make it more zesty it seems that Hamas could be using US and Western made weapons from those left behind in Afghanistan to those being filtered through Ukraine.
‘Autopay’. That’s good, SSL.
glad you enjoyed it, Dis
Yes, slow motion. I like your take on the US warships, but after the massacres, I doubt Israel is considering backing down.
Netanyahu is shit, of course. A truly bad seed.
Part of the crisis is that there’s no competent leadership, no great statesmen and women in Israel anymore. Ben Gurion, Golda Meir, Rabin, Moshe Dayan.
Midgets are in charge now, starting with Bibi N. Blind midgets.
“In Lvov, the Bandera monument was illuminated in the colors of the Israeli flag in solidarity with Israel.
So it’s a Nazi collaborator monument, lit with the Israeli flag and star.”
https://twitter.com/YepAdam_/status/1712854334910685254
Hahahahahahahahaha!
We have nearly achieved Idiocracy.
We’ll dub this one “World War Irony.”
I think it would be spectacular to have a flag in which a swastika is superimposed upon a star of David, or vice versa, but i’m twisted, so.
Well, if we can get a shot at some point with a couple of Ukie Soldaten nearby, you can get the Schwarzesonne in frame.
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mmm don’t get me started lol 🙂
Congrats on your new Governor, SSL.
ty BRH! Yeah that was a pretty historic win given our jungle primary system. Jeff Landry will certainly be a massive improvement over John Bel Edwards. I think we’ll be much better off now when the federal government tries stuff like covid restrictions again. Plus I am hopeful he’ll stop the offshore wind turbine projects and solar panel field projects that Edwards was helping to implement. Much better from an environmental perspective for sure.
That exists (well, not a flag [that I know of]:
httpX://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn517746 – view both sides of the coin
For more information on the Haavara (Transfer) Agreement see
httpX://www.palestineremembered.com/FactsAboutHaavara.html
Very interesting. It naturally makes sense that Jewish people today for the most part identify as Zionist. Why wouldn’t they?
“It naturally makes sense that Jewish people today for the most part identify as Zionist. Why wouldn’t they?”
You know this from where?
I thought about it. If you look at the situation now many Jewish people perceive of Israel as a homeland. And that is because they believe they have a homeland. Which, why wouldn’t they. And the Palestinians see it as their homeland too.
Jedem das Seine !
Let’s relocate the 7.2 million Jews from Israel to NYC. For their own safety. For peace in the middle east.
Well, we know 8 billion can physically fit there, what is another 7.2 million?
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I know you were just joking, but when you think about it, that might not be a bad idea. And we’d get the bonus of having the Jew haters throw a humongous shit-fit!
What, do you think, is so great about being hinged? Us unhinged spent decades prior hinged and have all moved on while the hinged have no frame of reference in order to compare the two.
LOL! Ain’t that the truth!
In the comedic sense (note that this post is down thread, away from his unintentionally hilarious rant), but otherwise, no.
On a similar note: I sometimes play music with a guy who is a great drummer, played with a few big bands here in Europe in the 80s, but gave in to his demons, did too much heroin, got in a motorcycle accident, and never really learned to take responsibility for anything.
He now lives with his 90-year-old mom on his measly state retirement, is missing most of his teeth, has one working leg, speaks like a drunken sailor, uses most people around him, and has no abilty to concentrate or really do anything that would better himself.
He lost control, and he’s got one foot in the grave now.
I have a soft heart and always want to help him, but the reality is that he is too far gone. This is the fate of those with a certain type of personality. Like the Hogger, he also loves attention, and will do anything to be the big dick in the room. For him it is music, for the Hogger it is CFN.
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“the Hogger, he also loves attention, and will do anything to be the big dick in the room. For him it is music, for the Hogger it is CFN.”
Yes, it has occurred to me that JHK ought to apply to Medicare for some kind of reimbursement for providing a therapeutic “safe space” for certain individuals.
Other health aides here are unpaid volunteers!!
Right. While the hinged are a truly marvellous bunch. There’s not a bad apple in that barrel.
“He now lives with his 90-year-old mom on his measly state retirement, is missing most of his teeth, has one working leg, speaks like a drunken sailor, uses most people around him, and has no abilty to concentrate or really do anything that would better himself.
He lost control, and he’s got one foot in the grave now.
Owl,
Yeah, but is he getting laid?
Hahahahaha.
The hinged are like zombies, OG. The unhinged are simply informed and passionate.
” We are headed toward a perspective of history that can be summed up as, “me/now”. ”
— Blackbird
I would go back to a classical education where the history / civics you learn is Greco – Roman history and mythology.
Nobody cares whether you favor the Athenians or Spartans , or both.
And Vespasian and Titus can romp and stomp through Palastine and still be on the list of good emperors.
All you people (you should know who I mean by “you people”) have no idea about the BIG picture. The ultimate big picture is the universe, which is at least 90 billion light years across. That’s 540 trillion billion miles. In that space, there’s at least 100 billion galaxies, maybe a lot more. In most of these galaxies, there’s 100 billion stars. Many of them have planets around them. Many of these planets have billions of living intelligent life forms. These large numbers are almost beyond imagining.
And yet people believe humans are so special. It was only100 years ago we thought our star system was the center of all life in the universe. The numbers tell us otherwise. I’m not smart enough to know about God, but I doubt God is very interested in us, considering He has octillions of other life forms to worry about. Don’t like to hear this? Well, tough shit, reality trumps wishes.
To those who think they know who is right or wrong, you don’t know shit! All ridiculous statements.
So all this kerfluffle about Israel or Gaza is meaningless. The only reality is about what is actually happening right now. I couldn’t give a shit about whether this whole war is a false flag or if Israel or Hamas started it, or if Israel has repressed the poor Palestinians. The thing is, lots of people are dying. That sucks.
I’ll tell you one thing: We humans are disgraceful. We are nothing more than ignorant poo-flinging primates who think they are special. Better watch out for the aliens. They should wipe us all out and cleanse the universe of our disgusting selves. I got a feeling that God wouldn’t lift a hand to prevent it from happening.
Sorry for the rant, but I’ve kind of had it.
You’re really going to give it too us now, huh Bill. Essentially I’m not noticing anyone disagreeing with your justifications. Perhaps you are using this moment to indulge in self hate and flagellation?
Poo-flinging primates is shockingly accurate, although I’m not all that sure about the ‘primates’ part of the equation. But species are well known to go batshit crazy when too many are confined to small areas. And if their leaders are psychopaths as well…? That’s some bad juju right ‘chere.
All right, we’re last-mates instead of prime mates.
Yeah exactly, it really does go back to the question of population density.
SSL,
I love myself – really. But I can’t say the same for most anyone else. But I do like you SSL, even though I’ve never met you, so please don’t wreck my image of you by flinging poo.
lol, just trying to keep you on your toes, Bill 🙂
But my toes are getting real strained. Couldn’t you let me rest for a while? Lol.
ok, for now i’ll let you rest 🙂
Nice, I like it.
Come, aliens, come.
The aliens have actually been here for a long time, but they blend almost in with us right now.
Are they good or bad, I wonder?
If they’re really here we’ll find that out.
Well they could definitely be perceived as both for sure. I think it depends on who interacts with them like how they would perceive them and all.
No, this matters, Bill. Israel is in a fight for it’s very existence. In some ways this is far worse than 1967, or 1973.
“As goes Israel, so goes the World”-Eric Hoffer, American Philosopher.
Hoffer is so right on, Marlin. If Israel goes, I believe everything goes. That’s what is so scary about this. Remember, Israel has nukes. If things go from bad to worst, the Samson option gets into play (shudder).
“If things go from bad to worst, the Samson option gets into play (shudder).”
These people with their “Samson Option” are truly the light of the world.
“It all revolves around us. If we can’t get what we want and no one cares how often we stamp our little feet, it’s The Big One for everyone.”
More like the Tantrum Option.
I know what I’m gonna do. I’m gonna call the NATA – the National American Terrorist Association – and have them attack Martha’s Vineyard. Then we’ll see how you react to that.
If you are getting beat up, you defend yourself as best you can. Or maybe 1,200 of your neighbors doesn’t mean anything to you.
” So all this kerfluffle about Israel or Gaza is meaningless. ”
Yeah , like I said.
But you want me to move out of ( not ) your country.
” And yet people believe humans are so special ”
If humans are not special then there’s nothing special , good or bad , about serial murder , genocide , and words like ” good ” or “bad ” are meaningless.
I may disagree with , or even loathe , other religions ,
but I sure as fuck don’t take moral instructions from atheists who posit that I’m equivalent to an ant.
KA, we have atheists posting here. Bill isn’t one of them.
I ain’t no atheist, and I never said you were an ant. Maybe a bee in my bonnet, though. Lol.
Being special hasn’t got anything to do with the good, the bad and the ugly, nor does serial murder, IMO. I believe serial murder, genocide and evil are the result of some mis-wiring in the brain. I never understood why a loving God would allow evil in this world.
I believe that, like Job, God tests us with the pleasures and misfortunes of the world.
OJ, you know what your problem Is? You are too nice and too good. If God is testing me, I’m afraid I flunked the course. But I like to think He knows all about me. I’ve been extraordinarily lucky in many ways, but I’ve already suffered a lot, too. I’m ready for Him to grant me peace of mind, which until recently I thought I had, but I guess not now. I always believed that unlike happiness, which is fleeting, once I got peace of mind, almost by definition it would remain. Shows how little I know.
BTW, OG, hang in there strong against the CFNers who are assholes. They try real hard to tear you down – don’t let them. Put all your CFN energy into looking forward to reading the good ones’ postings.
If God is testing me, I’m afraid I flunked the course.
We are all human, Bill. We all fall short of His perfection. Thankfully, God grades on the curve. He knows your heart. He knows your thoughts and your motives. Do your very best to keep His commandments, live by the Golden Rule and you will be just fine when God judges your life.
I truly believe that.
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Thank you for your encouragement and support – it is greatly appreciated! You are correct – there are many good people posting really great thoughts and opinions here.
CFN is a truly wonderful online Public Square. We are fortunate that we enjoy such a top-notch venue. JHK is a gracious host to allow all our childish bickering in and amongst the great thoughts and opinions.
“. He’s a pure Elitist, American born, but more at home in Europe. ‘
Who?
Kissinger??
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OG October 14, 2023 at 2:08 pm #
Ya think?
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You dumb fuck.
Kissinger was born in Fuerth, Germany.
It was obvious who BK was speaking of. D’uh!
Even the person who pointed out that Kissinger was not American-born knew that that was who BK was speaking of. D’uh!
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Isles, Israel versus Hamas: who ya hopin’ for?
Let’s get this straight.
100th Avatar mentioned Kissinger.
Whereupon, Jarek chimed in:
“He’s mad at the Jews too – for holding back World Government. He’s a pure Elitist, ***American born***, but more at home in Europe.”
Me: “You mean Kissinger?”
Reason for query: Kissinger not American born.
OG:
“It was obvious who BK was speaking of. D’uh!
“Even the person who pointed out that Kissinger was not American-born knew that that was who BK was speaking of. D’uh!”
Who the hell is BK?
You are all mixed up.
Duh squared to you.
Don’t butt in until your reading comprehension improves.
BK is the Big Kahuna. Pay attention.
Even your recounting makes it obvious that your question was stupid. He was obviously referring to Kissinger. D’uh!
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Don’t butt in until your reading comprehension improves.
I don’t take orders from bitches. I never did. If you bark an order at me, Isles, I will, at best, ignore it or, at worst, go out of my way to do the opposite.
Comprendez vous?
The mistake was mine, not OG’s, you idiot.
See immed. above, you idjit.
You’re so sweet.
Eh , near as I can tell , Islander doesn’t like me no matter how many times , or how often , I agree.
That’s life.
Sometimes you are disliked because of something you did.
Sometimes you are liked or disliked and you had NOTHING to do with it.
And sometimes you haven’t the faintest fucking clue which of the two it was.
“near as I can tell , Islander doesn’t like me ”
Huh?
You live in you own world of ideas . . .
Very interesting comment at MoA regarding the big picture historical context of the Zionist project:
“@ Alta4710 | Oct 15 2023 11:39 utc | 27
“I’m wondering if Israel’s tragedy hasn’t been at least in part that it was so late to the settler-state “game”.”
Yes, that is absolutely the case; indeed, Israel barely managed to get started at all in 1948, and that only because of fortuitous circumstances.
In my view, there are six main successful European settler states in the world: the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Argentina, and Uruguay. Each of these was established long ago when European settlement and theft of native lands and extermination of aborginal peoples was seen as morally acceptable (despite occasional dissent), the latest of them being New Zealand, which nevertheless had enough time to establish itself. In each of these, the Europeans literally went out in search of thinly-populated aboriginal lands to appropriate, which helped to ensure success.
Many other European settler schemes were also attempted, but they did not succeed: Dutch and British in South Africa, British in Kenya and Zimbabwe, Germans in Namibia, French in Algeria, Italians in Libya, Portuguese in Angola (very late), all with the intent of outnumbering the natives and all failed to keep political control.
So when Zionist colonization of Palestine began under the Ottoman Empire in 1881 and was formalized with the Zionist movement in 1897, it was too late. From 1903-1905, they even considered a British offer to take part of Kenya, which the Zionist founder Theodor Herzl (1860-1904) actually accepted. This was all going on at the exact moment when European colonialism and racism were at their height but about to go down with a swiftness no one could anticipate.
So the Zionist settlement plans were too late, because they coincided with the spread of modern mass education and mass literacy and thus the spread of indigenous nationalism shortly to end the European empires. Also, they picked Palestine, a densely-populated land in the middle of the world of Muslim civilization and not diverse small tribes. Their venture was quixotic from the outset. By 1948, they were only 33% of the population in Palestine, and without sympathy over the Holocaust and a lot of arm twisting by the US, the 1947 partition of Palestine resolution would never have passed.
Today, after 75 years of massacre and mayhem, blood, sweat, tears, and the spending of vast sums, they still are only about half the population of Palestine, having to live cheek by jowl with the people they displaced right in their faces every day. What a herculean effort for such a small result! (And arguably a malign one.)
So the Zionist venture is kind of like trying to build a wall of sand to keep the tide from coming in.
Posted by: Cabe | Oct 15 2023 17:14 utc | 131
Israel versus Hamas, Isles. Who are ya hopin’ for?
So no “mixing pot.” Evidently the religious thing is too much to overcome.
@Rulo, I just read your responses upthread on my request for us to debate the validity of the GLT and what its results can tell us about the subject.
I appreciate your assessment of me and of my evolution here on CFN. I thank you for honest feedback as it will help me post better.
I thought that it was you who called the GLT “stupid” but the backdraft on my GLT was fast and furious. If you claim that it was not you who called it “stupid,” then that is good enough for me. It must’ve have been a different poster and I mixed it up. I apologize.
You are correct. I do bog down in combatting pride. I despise pride. MQ, NO and Isles are full of sickly pride. Stupid sickly pride unjustly cost me $1.4mm so it is a sore spot with me (to say the least).
I lash out at pride and foolishly think that I will eventually prove myself so correct that the perp will have no choice but to admit to their fallibility. I say “foolish” because expecting the chronic prideful to ever be truly self-assessing is like admonishing your pet cat for hunting birds. [True story: My ex really did that once!]
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I guess that I am just a different duck, Rulo. I don’t see anything “creepy” about asking for people’s GLT score. I truly think that I have developed a simple Sociological test to quantify an easy separation of the men from the boys. I really do.
I mean, how can one have serious political discussions with a delusional man-child? If a man is a 0 or a 1 or a 2 on the GLT, then he clearly has no flipping clue how our world has worked for these past 60 years and, therefore, his thoughts are of no worth whatsoever in divining the future.
IMHO, of course. I could be wrong.
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Five people were not creeped. Five people have shared their GLT score with the group. CFN has 4×10 and 1×1 so far.
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I can laugh at myself and I do readily admit to and apologize for my errors when I commit them. I’ve had much strife in my life, however, because I won’t do so unless I truly feel that it is warranted.
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Now for my pride: I am proud to say that I am still off the Jack Daniels. Thanks for asking. I have not had a sip of alcohol since April 2020. Praise God!
CFN’rs,
Well, Iran says it will enter the war if Israel assaults Gaza.
But…but the real news is that Suzanne Somers is hanging with Elvis…died suddenly at 76. Attached is a fitting memorial…short.
https://www.suzannesomers.com/products/suzanne-somers-toning-system-thighmaster-gold-plus-buttmaster
Who among us has the buttmaster…buns of steel? Suzanne dead, but the buttmaster lives on.
Oh, and the link on the Iran thing…if anybody’s interested;
https://www.newsmax.com/headline/iran-israel-gaza/2023/10/15/id/1138352/
Sounds like a party going on! Let’s boogie!
” I never understood why a loving God would allow evil in this world. ”
Ah , the problem of evil.
Except I have never seen a problem.
Invariably love — whatever love is — means asking , not telling , not demanding , not ordering.
There’s no way around that.
Except with children — and then they grow up , in about five minutes , and again that shit don’t work.
As for the Hell business ,
as Satan in Paradise Lost said ,
” Better to reign in Hell than serve in Heaven. ”
In other words , he went to Hell voluntarily.
If he could , why not others ?
It is certainly observable in this life , with or without religion , that people can elect to royally fuck themselves no matter how much you care about them.
The second problem with the problem is that whether you live to be five years old , or a hundred and five years old , it’s a brief life.
The very most you can say of this life is it is a bus station.
I mentioned the Peloponnesian War .
Who cares now who was in the right and who was in the wrong ?
And given how spotty our records are now of the time , who could say with certainty who was in the right and who was in the wrong ?
We simply don’t know. Too many records have been lost , if they ever existed.
It’s simply true , like it or not , that eventually it really is water under the bridge.
A whole generation has now grown up for whom 911 happened before they were born .
I suspect if not for peer pressure or politics a great many of them would admit it is no more relevant to their lives than , ” Remember the Maine “.
( another example of why Sun Tzu was again right when he said there has never been a protracted war from which a state has benefited. The occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan were a fuck up exclusively on the basis that they drug along beyond their fanfair. )
If right and wrong are exclusively to be pinned to this life , then it appears to me that right and wrong are what one writes in running water , or an air.
It’s terrifying to know that eventually it is all just water under the bridge, and in another sense it is comforting to know that eventually it is all water under the bridge. Ambiguity is dangerous within the instincts of the mind. That is why most people will clamor for certainties. And they can come up with any justification for what they think is right. In some ways it is simply an innate quirk and in others a simple adaptation?
” I believe serial murder, genocide and evil are the result of some mis-wiring in the brain. ”
I have to go with my experience , limited though it may be.
I have met a few people who were crazy , and killed someone , and all I could feal was sorry for them , because they were crazy.
And then I have met people who killed people who looked at you exactly as if you were a chair.
And I have no doubt they were perfectly sane.
Per an emergency power that was issued to the FCC in the 1930s and remains in effect today the President can literally shut down the internet.
westernjournal.com/rand-paul-warns-obscure-1940s-law-gives-president-internet-kill-switch/
The train derailments continue to happen. Seems like there is one every week. One occurred earlier today in Pueblo, Colorado involving a train carrying coal, which of course happened to spill all over the highway. And the bridge the train was on collapsed too crushing a semi beneath it but it appears the driver survived.
An ammunition factory in Nebraska also blew up earlier today killing one worker and injuring two others. Maybe there were always lot of accidents and explosions but it doesn’t seem like it. And now these stories appear very frequently but are not discussed by the major news outlets. What benefits do they draw from ignoring these stories?
My favorite line in the movie Look Away is when India Eisley asks her dying father tearfully “why couldn’t you love me?” And the saddest thing of all is that I could tell you that for a million years and still you would never understand what was said.
“The Jewish Situation”
XXXwww.youtube.com/watch?v=yBumTNZvVvk&ab_channel=MiddleNation
Truth or Illusion? But certainly, OTB.
Yes, watched that.
It was linked and quite a lot discussed at MoA.
Brilliant!
Zionism. A cancer on the face of humanity!
Wow! Talk about a needed perspective.
Thank you, Amman.
Apparently Reiner Fuellmich has been arrested in Mexico, where they were staying, while he and his wife were attempting to renew their passports at the German Embassy.He was flown to Germany and is in custody, facing tens of pages of charges.
Just heard on UKC News – don’t have any details.
Scary times indeed.
Damn! This is indeed terrible news. The Totalitarians are a dark and persistent force. We stop them or they stop us and and alll meaningful human progress.