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     Things are going a little sideways now, wouldn’t you agree? The world is not coming to an end, exactly, but our arrangements in it are breaking up all at once, threatening to wreck everyday life for a whole lot more people than just the poor mutts on the margins. The endless insults to common decency and common sense by the vicious governing blob that runs things don’t help, either. The main question du jour: when things break really badly, will they break against that vicious blob hard enough to make it stop?

      This blob — a weird cabal alien to our heritage — is composed of people with names and duties, and institutions too. They have already lost their credibility, their authority, and their legitimacy. The problem is that they haven’t lost their power to wreck our country. Exposed and disgraced as they are, they still occupy the seats of command, still twiddle the dials on the control console, still enjoy a foolish illusion of invulnerability.

     I’m in favor of wholesale impeachment of these top people as the best way to go, first, to pry their hands off the levers of power, and second, use the process of impeachment to move public sentiment to a firmly anti-blob position. When you read of “Joe Biden’s” 37 percent favorable rating in some poll, do you wonder how it can be that high? Hard evidence of his high crimes of bribery has been plain to see for many months. We await a brisk House inquiry to put all that evidence in order, in a simple bill that even The New York Times won’t be able to ignore. Let Mr. Schumer’s tiny Senate majority try to decline an impeachment trial. Between that and “Joe Biden’s obvious incapacity, he’ll have to resign. And then let the Party of Chaos try to pretend that Kamala Harris can be in charge of anything. We’ll see soon enough who’s pulling the strings in the White House.

     The House should simultaneously form committees to impeach the faithless and incompetent agency heads below “JB” starting with Merrick Garland, specifically for criminally violating the rights of the many J-6 defendants falsely charged, denied speedy trials, and abused in the federal jails while awaiting those unjustly delayed trials. Also, tack on multiple counts of perjury for the many times he lied under oath before Congress.

     Next, Alejandro Mayorkas, for allowing a virtual invasion of our country and his gross, willful failure to enforce the laws that regulate entry across our borders. As with Mr. Garland, include counts of perjury, lying to Congress. After him, Xavier Becerra, Secretary of Health and Human Services, for presiding over the vaccination debacle and all the lying about it perpetrated under his supervision by the CDC, the FDA, and many other public health agencies. FBI Director Christopher Wray is not subject to impeachment, so the House should defund the agency until he and the rest of the seventh floor C-suite gang, led by Deputy AG Lisa Monaco, resign.

     That would be good start for breaking up the blob so that the public does not have to wait for a 2024 election that shows no signs of being cleaned up procedurally to ensure fair and truthful results — though momentous impeachment moves against the figures truly responsible for wrecking the country might prompt some states to take action to get rid of the Covid-era mail-in ballot trickery that the blob cooked up to keep itself in power.

     All of the blob’s projects are coming to grief now in the worst way possible. Ukraine was a foolish venture starting in 2014 when the US tried to shanghai it into NATO over a red line explicitly declared by Russia. We didn’t believe they meant it, apparently. What part of sphere of influence don’t we understand? How did the CIA do sizing that up? Or sussing out the October 7 Hamas massacre in Israel? Do they have no assets in Gaza? How’s America’s prestige in the world doing, and the dollar that represents it, vis-à-vis the new BRIC alliance that was allowed to come together largely because of the “Joe Biden” regime’s foreign policy blunders scaring so many previously neutral nations?

     How are the blob’s domestic projects doing? It’s managed to destroy the credibility of medicine, the honor of higher education, and the authority of the news media — with plenty of help from the blobistas embedded in all those institutions. How is it possible that the majority of doctors still don’t know that Covid vaccines are unsafe and ineffective, and that they have been systematically lied to by the CDC from the get-go on this? How is it possible that presidents of the most distinguished universities go along with the suppression of free inquiry and speech, as if these were not the foundation of learning? How is it possible that the editors of The New York Times and The Washington Post lie continually and knowingly about events and persons, unless they are getting paid by, and have become defacto arms of, the blob itself, to cover-up the discovery of its crimes?

    How’s the blob’s campaign to sow gender confusion and race hatred going? Resistance has formed to the first hustle, most visibly against the local school boards by parents rightfully disturbed over not just sexualizing little children, but egging them into mental illness over it. You might have also noticed that the policy for decriminalizing crime has the interesting effect of collapsing the social contract, especially in cities. Thus, wholesale car-jacking, armed robbery, flash-mob looting, and murder. Want more of that? Think it works in favor of the brotherhood of man?

      Don’t you suppose some kind of effective opposition is required to contend with all this. One might expect, at this turn in history, for the Republican Party to become a righteous and effective antipode to the epic malign ineptitude of the Democrats’ Party of Chaos and Death. The only venue for this opposition to function in at the moment is the US House of Representatives. It’s either that or something harsh, bloody, and awful lies ahead for us.


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771 Responses to “Step It Up and Go”

  1. PonyTail October 20, 2023 at 9:32 am #

    The impeachment scenario assumes that Congress isn’t in on it. I don’t think we have the luxury of that belief anymore.

    • rudyspeaks October 20, 2023 at 9:55 am #

      I agree! While JHK is correct (I believe) about ” the epic malign ineptitude of the Democrat’s Party of Chaos and Death”, we have to admit that in a nation addicted to a (phony) “2 party system”, when you “throw the bums out!”, you’ll be throwing the other bums back in. Rinse and repeat. I haven’t the room to list all the evils of the “W. Bush” years (nor, probably, do I need to) but the notion that these freaks were any better than the Dems is unsupportable. The real underlying problem is so enormous no one likes to discuss it, but, bluntly, the Mafia has complete control of the US government. And they kill.

      • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 10:24 am #

        A broken system provides non-quality results.

      • Groundhog October 20, 2023 at 10:28 am #

        The historical record is very clear on systems that are ruled by elected officials. Democracies and republics don’t last long because the people that inevitably crave power and control over others are the very last people who should ever be allowed near the levers of government. Throw all the bums out via elections? That doesn’t happen and has never happened. Republics simply do not work very well or very long in governing a nation. The average lifespan is 250 years – and we are there.

        Criminal and homicidal psychopaths eventually run and ruin the republic. It doesn’t work. Period. So the question is why do humans insist on repeating over and over the very same procedures and policies that always fail?

        • Mac October 20, 2023 at 10:39 am #

          Agree. The Founding Fathers understood clearly the pitfalls and designed the Constitution accordingly. Later politicians of course changed it, I.e. one man one vote, direct election of senators, women’s suffrage. The FF did fuck one thing up- the absence of term limits, though, to be fair, most people keeled over before they turned 50 back then.

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder October 21, 2023 at 10:22 am #

            …to be fair, most people keeled over before they turned 50 back then.

            True by statistics, but can’t resist nitpicking. This is mostly because life expectancy for a time period also factors in early life deaths. In the late 1700’s, many more died in the first few years of life than do now.

            if you were lucky enough to run the gauntlet of childhood and make it to 20, you would just as likely live to see 50. If you lived to 50, you would likely see 70. After that, all bets were off, as they are now.

            There were a whole lot of old bastards hobbling around back then, just as now. But tragedy for young parents was uncomfortably common then, hence the 10-12 children they would bring in to the world as fast as possible upon starting a family.

            That said, term limits would’ve been nice. Hard to vote yourself out with rules you make yourself…

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder October 21, 2023 at 10:27 am #

            Term limits only work when those who are elected have the means to support themselves already, without the job.

            Without that backstop, re-election becomes one’s purpose while filling the seat, instead of focusing on the actual role of the position.

            That gives credence to the FF wanting to have the governing body comprised of those with land, and of “good moral character”.

        • D from OR October 20, 2023 at 11:01 am #

          Republics don’t work well or long and attempts of late to marry our system to a democratic system are rampant.

          The numerous vacuous cries by politicians to “save our democracy” when in actuality they’re saying “save our system of corruption.”

          It’s a trope “Bobby” Kennedy likes to repeat and will likely repeat it again under the the guidance of his new campaign manager – his daughter-in-law a “former” CIA agent. Once he’s done pandering to the black community about reparations

          • Beryl of Oyl October 20, 2023 at 11:13 am #

            He’ll tell you why his idea isn’t reparations, because it isn’t “race-based”, it’s for “the poor” and blacks are disproportionately poor so naturally when you give it to people in poor communities blacks will get more of it.

            Once some genius starts with that “disproportionately” stuff I tend not to even want to bother with the rest of what they have to say, because it tells me they haven’t thought it through.

            He should know better, but he’s hopelessly stuck in the past.

            Willfully ignorant too. He talks about how he is a better choice because President Trump is facing all kinds of legal charges.

            He’s an attorney. If I know what is going on with those charges, he has to understand the true nature of those prosecutions.

            He doesn’t see fit to mention it.

          • Fnfcst1 October 20, 2023 at 12:05 pm #

            Yep! RFK, jr jumped the shark on that one.

            Apparently, he views his main constituency as guilt-ridden white leftists.

          • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 12:22 pm #

            Not his, Kucinich’s DIL.

            He was careful about his words.
            And correct.
            The president does not decide on reparations.
            It starts at the state level, etc.

            Most interesting are his ruminations on the physical divide in society when black neighborhoods were separated by highways, freeways, and subsidized housing. Purposefully.
            The built environment that exacerbated division.
            He said society needs to rectify the segragation of the environments that the STATE created.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 20, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

            That’s the “interstates are racist” blather from the likes of Pete Buttigeig.

            It’s a smokescreen for a globalist agenda, but that wouldn’t bother Jr. he supports a lot of the globalist agenda.

          • Jarek October 22, 2023 at 1:25 pm #

            Perhaps that was a wise thing to do. Why should Whites be forced to live under a regime of Black terror?

            Why can’t stores set up in Black neighborhoods (ghettoes)? You know why: The Blacks would destroy them.

        • Heartlander October 20, 2023 at 11:05 am #

          I found this book very interesting. Very insightful analysis of the fatal flaws in democracy. Proposes that best government is a form of monarchy called the principiate. It’s written by Russians, for Russians, who of course have a totally different history and geography from us, but it is well worth reading.

          amazon.com/Project-Russia-Part-1-English-ebook/dp/B0CDJPPZ6Y/

          • tuco22 October 20, 2023 at 1:04 pm #

            Sorry, but I just don’t believe that freeways and highways were deliberately designed or built to “interrupt” black neighborhoods. That’s a lot of money spent just to screw with a minority demographic, don’t you think? I think suitability of the land was a large consideration.

          • tuco22 October 20, 2023 at 1:06 pm #

            Beryl: Everyone in the Biden administration was born in the 80s, which means they came up through the public school system, most of them, in the 90s, where multiculturalism and diversity were the order of the day in indoctrination. That’s why they all think alike and act alike.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 20, 2023 at 1:09 pm #

            tuco-

            The “communities” they “interrupted” were usually white majority.

            If the Jr.’s and Buttgiegs of this world hate that blacks are separated so much, they can go live in the black “communities” themselves.

          • Groundhog October 20, 2023 at 1:28 pm #

            Curiosity got the best of me and I pasted on the https stuff and find the book is only 5 dollars in kindle form. I think what you get is 491 pages of a book that is gov’t recommended reading for all Russian civil servants. I’ve not bought it yet and don’t even know how kindle works. But the kindle app is free from Amazon. I wonder if it’s possible to change a kindle book into an audiobook mp3 file with a computer voice speaking instead of a real voice. A book supporting monarchies instead of republics is rare in this world.

            There is a blog out there on the net by a person calling himself the “Mad Monarchist”. On his website the MM explains he cannot publish his real name or his email adress because of all the crank, prank, and threatening communications he recieved in the past when he posted it. Calling yourself a monarchist will usually be asking for a very negative response. Or they’ll think you are just trolling – that you can’t possibly be serious.

          • Anthea October 20, 2023 at 5:57 pm #

            The only thing that is wrong with black communities is that blacks live there, and the only thing wrong (well, not the only thing, but in relation to white schools) with black schools is that blacks go to school there.

            Ergo, blacks obect to real or perceived segregation as a bad thing, because it restricts them to being around other blacks. Apparently, blacks are the only people in the world who would prefer not to associate with their own kind. Asians don’t mind living in Asian neighborhoods, and whites don’t mind living in white neighborhoods.

            And I have never heard of anyone having any trouble crossing a freeway or a highway to get where they wanted to go.

            The reality is that that in many cities, blacks have literally driven out most of the white residents–and the reality is that that did this through violence and criminality. Thus, whites are unable to access or live in many areas of the cities, due to being in fear of their lives, of injury to their persons and property, or loss of their property. Whites, on the other hand (at least in recent history), have not threatened blacks with bodily harm–up to and including death–or the theft or destruction of their property–if they entered white neighborhoods.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 21, 2023 at 11:18 am #

            Anthea, are you posing as Jarek today or what?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 21, 2023 at 11:18 am #

            Or vice-versa of course.

          • Jarek October 21, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

            Because anything Jarek says is untrue or Becomes Untrue. The Power! If I said, Za is alive, he would immediately cease to be so.

          • Groundhog October 21, 2023 at 1:50 pm #

            Anthea wrote:

            “The only thing that is wrong with black communities is that blacks live there, and the only thing wrong (well, not the only thing, but in relation to white schools) with black schools is that blacks go to school there.”

            A peculiar and first of its kind situation in the early 60’s arose in Huntsville Alabama at the former site of the Redstone Arsenal. But in the 60’s it had been renamed Marshall Space Flight Center under NASA and it was a sort of home base for the effort to travel to the moon by 1970 or so. The Saturn V rocket was developed, tested, and built in Huntsville.

            But in the early 60’s that city found itself in a lot of racial strife, sit-ins, demonstrations, etc. One part of Huntsville was literally aiming for the moon and the other minority part had far less lofty goals. Instead, they were aiming for access to public facilities like hotels/motels, tennis courts, restaurants, swimming pools, theaters, rest rooms, the list goes on and on. Let’s say a highly qualified machinist or engineer with dark skin or maybe even he/she were not black but maybe instead that person was from India or Pakistan. Maybe they just *appeared* to be black to the Southern cracker crowd. So why would that scientist or engineer that doesn’t look white wish to work in a socially hostile environment? And for that matter, why would NASA tolerate the distraction of having social upheval and racial strife going on in Huntsville’s streets while they were trying to build interplanetary rocket engines next door? There were people coming to and going from Huntsville Al not just from all over the USA but from overseas as well. And they fly in to Huntsville only to encounter some very embarassing social uproars going on? Anachronistic social problems having causes going back to the mid 1880’s in the South?

            There was as large community of German rocket people living in Huntsville and they took matters into their own hands at least regarding the school integration issues. The schools for black children were poorly funded. There were laws preventing black children from enrolling in white schools, but no laws preventing white kids from attending black schools. So some of the Germans sent their kids to the black schools and soon others – even non German engineers began doing the same. So eventually the local rednecks were overwhemned and the people in Huntsville got used to the idea of integrated public schools 2 years ahead of the rest of the state of Alabama. Also the Germans started going to the black swimming pools, restaurants, and tennis courts etc. They helped start the ball rolling on the social changes that needed to occur in Huntsville if any real progress was going to happen on voyaging to the moon. Germans were from another culture, language, and continent – they had no skin in the local racial games and racial strife.

            Jarek might excuse these supposed Nazi Germans and say that if it was Jews instead of blacks that were having a bad time of it in Huntsville – maybe those Germans wouldn’t have been so liberal and so nice. Aside from the short lived Nazi nonsense, Germans have historically never had any issues with black people and treated the native residents of their African colonies very well.

            Jews, on the other hand can say they’ve had historical issues with German Christians that go way back into the Middle Ages and even earlier.

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder October 21, 2023 at 5:41 pm #

            Apparently, blacks are the only people in the world who would prefer not to associate with their own kind.

            I don’t know if this is true as written, but I do know that at a recent work function in a black neighborhood at night in an unfamiliar city, when I was a clear minority in the area, black colleagues at the event were cautiously, but obviously, expressing understated concern as I was preparing to walk to my car to leave, which was only a block away. I found this slightly insulting, but also worthy of note

            I’m 6’2″, 215, 46 years old. Not a fighter, but I can carry myself okay to avoid trivial victimization. A mark, for sure, but not in the upper percentile of first choices. I would be fine. But I certainly took their cautions to mind to make sure to keep my eyes open.

            “They” don’t have a problem with each each other, but they know that there are prevalent elements in their community that don’t respect the social contract, and never will. And the “normal” among them despise those folks as much as the “rednecks” do.

          • Jarek October 22, 2023 at 1:32 pm #

            Ground: As if race is just skin color, lol. Racists know better than that for the most part. That’s not to say they want to be ruled by high IQ Indians and Pakistanis.

            Sending their kids to Black schools? True stupidity. Only Whites above of higher IQ are this lacking in commonsense. Below average Whites would never do it – nor high IQ Asians.

            Did it work? If it did, it wouldn’t today. The hatred has only grown through liberal “kindness”. The more we give, the more inferior they feel. The more inferior they feel, the more they hate us.

          • Anthea October 22, 2023 at 10:42 pm #

            @ Groundhog:

            Your story of German NASA engineers sending their kids to black schools, and that they began going to black swimming pools, restaurants, etc., advanced the cause of integration in Huntsville, Alabama, is an interesting one. I find it a little puzzling that said engineers would wish to place their kids in poor schools and expose themselves and their kids to the dangers attendant to frequenting black facilities of other kinds. I assume they didn’t know any better. I can’t help but wonder if the engineers did not regret their decisions. Perhaps they just went back to Germany or something.

            Back in the 60s, when the government first began integrating the public schools, I sometimes talked with other white people who were lamenting “white flight” and insisting that, if white people would just “get with the program,” they could make public school integration succeed. I don’t think there are any white people who still take this position.

            Back at that time (late 60s, early 70s), the Kansas City Star extolled the virtues of integration and wrote glowing reports of how well it was going. I had friends who were teachers in that district at that time. They told me that the newspaper reports were egregrioius lies, and that the schools were scenes of violence and disorder.

            The bottom line here is that we have 60 years of proof that public school integration not only does not work, but has been extremely destructive. Here in the Kansas City area, the public schools are as segregated as they were in 1950. Enrollment in the KC Public School system has dropped from about 75,000 in 1974 to about 14,000, as of 2022. In the years subsequent to public school integration, beginning in earnest around 1970, pretty much the entire white population, who had school-age children, of Kansas City fled to the surrounding suburbs. The exceptions were some white neighborhoods where everyone sent their kids to Catholic schools or other private schools. Prior to public school integration, the white suburban developments scarcely existed at all. Public school integration was the proximate cause of suburban real estate development. In fact, it has sometimes been suggested that that was the whole purpose of public school integration: to make real estate developers (one of which, in KC, would have been J.C. Nichols) rich.

            Basically, your story about Huntsville is primarily an indication that some people are nuts–or stupid, or perhaps just naive–and certainly not an indication that public school integration (or even integration in general) works, or can work. Black schools are still almost all black and are abysmally bad. Black neighborhoods are still dangerous and crime-ridden. Wherever blacks begin to shop or patronize businesses in white areas, they bring crime and violence, and often the businesses close. Black crime and violence has caused the closing of several shopping malls in the KC area. A couple of these were Indian Springs shopping center in KCK and Bannister Mall in KC. Blacks are well on their way to shutting down Independence Center shopping center in Independence, Missouri. There have been several violent incidents, so the mall has established policies that all minors must be accompanied by and adult, and some other rules.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 20, 2023 at 2:52 pm #

          Dystopia’s Word For ‘Impossible’ Is ‘Utopian’

          ““If the Anarchists got into power” ~ BackRowHeckler

          “Anarchists don’t ‘get into power’. That’s the point.

          In fact, it’s quite simple:

          It is a society organized (however it wants) around;

          • Equity
          • Mutual Trust
          • Mutual Consent

          That’s pretty much it.

          That’s what forms the basis of any decent, lasting, fulfilling relationship in general.

          There’s no need to over-analyze anarchy.

          On the other hand, if your idea of a relationship is;

          • Inequity
          • Mutual Distrust
          • Mutual Non-Consent

          Then anarchy is most likely not for you.” ~ The Man They Call Zazelle

          “Zaz,
          Your description defines the human condition. And pardon me, but it sounds like OG’s marriage….

          Equality, Mutual trust, and mutual consent? Your qualifiers are utopian. Even Jesus had friends that screwed him over.” ~ elysianfield, kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/who-do-they-think-theyre-kidding/#comment-832618

          elysianfield, using examples of poor behavior by some people is no excuse for others not to strive for good relationships, or a decent society. You’re making a logical fallacy here. BackRowHeckler does it too and keeps trying to reverse-define anarchy to boot.

          I mean why even bother reading JHK’s articles then, since he’s more or less on the same wave?
          You really don’t seem to be thinking this through or don’t care, or something.
          Why even bother entering into any kind of relationship at all if you think you’re going to be screwed over, ‘cuz it’s the human condition’?

          In any case, if you have a solid foundation/solid-build-quality– think of a house– then it’s more likely that you can weather the storms, such as dubious people who might wish to inflict harm.
          But start with a shaky foundation and you’re already in trouble from the start(/’get-go’).

          And that’s pretty much the difference between anarchy and the State, respectively.

          “Every daring attempt to make a great change in existing conditions, every lofty vision of new possibilities for the human race, has been labeled Utopian.” ~ Emma Goldman

          “Dystopia’s word for ‘impossible’ is ‘utopian’.” ~ Caelan MacIntyre

          “…Then there was a tiny group… who were opposed to the war on what the editor called, idealogical grounds. Now the term is interesting: Ideological is a ‘bad’ word you know. What it means is that this… statistically irrelevant sample… were opposed to the war on principle.” ~ Noam Chomsky

          “We announce the birth of a conceptual country, NewTopia, citizenship of the country can be obtained by declaration of your awareness of Newtopia. Newtopia has no land, no boundries, no passports, only people. Newtopia has no laws other than cosmic. All people of Newtopia are ambassadors of the country.” ~ John Lennon, from the film, ‘The US vs John Lennon’

          • elysianfield October 20, 2023 at 6:01 pm #

            “elysianfield, using examples of poor behavior by some people is no excuse for others not to strive for good relationships, or a decent society. You’re making a logical fallacy here.”

            Zas,
            Well, we can agree to disagree. Examples of poor behavior(the study of) is…history. Experience. Observation…wisdom. One studies history in part, in the hope of avoiding other peoples’ failed attempts.in the scope of human endeavor If you cannot, or will not learn from the example of others, then why study history, or quote notables long dead? Lenin, Lennon, etc.

            And in my experience and long life of study, the word “Utopian” is pejorative…..

            I don’t mean offense, but you sound of a person who has spent his life in academia. What you have described as “soft anarchism” is usually referred to as “libertarian”. Libertarianism, in it’s common forms, would be acceptable to me, as well as a large majority of the readership. Anarchy, in its common form, not at all.

            We may be arguing at cross purposes.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 21, 2023 at 9:45 am #

            Elysianfield’s Complicity?

            elysianfield, your human condition tack is a cop-out and seems an excuse or rationalization for some people, apparently including you, for not only doing fuck-all for good but being subversive to those trying to forge a better world.

            IOW, you become part of the problems.

            By my experience, no one’s ever called for or expected 100% utopia– whatever that even means– but if you don’t agree with ‘efforts toward it’, then at least consider keeping your trap shut and maybe waiting until outfits like the WEF ‘build back better’ around your carcass.

            Maybe if you’re still alive, you will luck out and Be Happy™.

            BTW, WRT your previous threads’ quote, “Mass complicity, however, does not sound like anarchy, but rather it’s opposite.”, you didn’t read that correctly. I wrote…

            “Hitler, Stalin and other despots of history couldn’t have gotten anywhere without a whole lot of mindless mass complicity, like proverbial lemmings off the cliff.”

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 21, 2023 at 11:11 am #

            Linguistic Straightjackets

            And in my experience and long life of study, the word “Utopian” is pejorative…” ~ elysianfield

            That’s part of my point; changing the meanings of words. Modding language to change/control/limit targeted thinking and behaviour.

            Maybe it’s working on you, elysianfield.

            “War is peace… freedom is slavery… ignorance is strength” ~ George Orwell…

            …utopia is a pejorative… anarchy is chaos & violence…

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder October 21, 2023 at 6:03 pm #

            Zazelle,

            My problem with “ordered” anarchy is that it assumes enough people will follow the program with good intent. The entirety of human history disagrees. This is not Star Trek, nor will it ever be. “Fuck you, this is mine” is the defining mantra of humanity.

            Most people want to be good, but know that by default they are not.

            Most people know they are not inherently good, but want to be.

            Some people are complete pieces of shit.

            This is what we have to contend with. So we delegate, and try to apply trust. Rarely, it works.

            The founding fathers chose landed European men of “good moral character” as their guidepost for leadership in America, even knowing that they themselves were not inherently “good” (but were devoutly trying to be, at least publicly), and knowing that they were including themselves in the game as a result of their self-imposed designation.

            Utopia indeed. It works if the people at the levers at least attempt to try to uphold the vision.

            People always look to someone to take the staff, thereby granting authority to that person in whatever capacity they were given the nod. That is not anarchy. That is government. It’s a part of the human social structure. Anarchy is therefore a null form of society. Or it is chaos.

            I choose government, and bitching about it.

      • Alfred October 20, 2023 at 10:54 am #

        I agree too!

        My father used to refer to the government as the ruling ‘mob.’

        It does indeed function like one.

        The problem with many politicians is they’re all like minded when it comes to gettin’ theirs. Their positions on issues become props in their life drama. There are those with sincere beliefs, but when I consider the crucible within which those beliefs were formed, I find they have like mindedness in other ways.

      • JohnAZ October 20, 2023 at 11:04 am #

        It is bigger than the Mafia, although they are a part of it. Eventually, all the Mobs will duke it out to see who is no. 1.

        The uniparty is a result of the Mob-led back home political machines that have become unipolar. Remember Capra’s expose, Mr. Smith goes to Washington. Jimmy went up against the machine back home, but also the war inside DC itself. Right now, a conservative maverick is trying to cut a notch out of the Deep State, but will probably fail, due to the small minority of conservative extremists whose goal is to shut down the government.

        Those same uniparty Mob led machines back home are who blocked 100% of the voting investigations, both through the legislatures and the judiciaries.

        A question? A strawman? Has the Mob been in control of the machinations of the Deep State since their assassination of the Kennedy boys? Are the elected official so afraid of being assassinated or discredited that they are frozen in place.

        Is Capra-esque DC impossible now?

        • TallTim October 20, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

          Goes way, way back- pretty much since the beginning. The same super rich families haven’t gone anywhere- perhaps a bit more exposed.

        • beantownbill. October 20, 2023 at 1:02 pm #

          JAZ, I believe the issue is set in human’s brains. To me, it just means we humans have the in-born desire to be led by others. Either that, or homo sapiens yield to those who display aggressive, controlling behavior. It’s the way we’re wired.

          The unfortunate reality is that people generally aren’t aware that we have the ability to overcome our deficiencies. That we don’t try or haven’t learned how to surpass our shortcomings is the real tragedy.

        • U R IntheVillage October 20, 2023 at 2:09 pm #

          I don’t think “The Mafia” is running things. The intelligence agencies are running things because they have files on every congressperson, cabinet official, judge, etc in the land, chock full of embarrassing or incriminating information on all of them. That includes Supreme Court Justices.

          We know that every email, every cellphone conversation, every website visited and every internet search is monitored. By the time someone makes it to congress or the judiciary they’ve accumulated a lot of dirty laundry. The 3 letter agencies have all of it.

          Who do the 3 letter agencies answer to? My guess is Globalist Technocrats. A group of multi-billionaires that have concerns, expressed in some fashion for decades, that if the peons keep using up stuff, there won’t be enough left for their families. They’ve been aware of peak oil for a long time. They know the banking and derivative charades can’t go on forever. They know the hour is getting close and they do not want the masses to be able to organize against them.

          Keep everyone fighting with each other, stoke racial discord, convince the populace that the world is ending due to “climate change” (that is our fault, due to our heating homes, mowing lawns, eating meat, taking vacations and exhaling), and that we must aspire to owning nothing to atone for our sins. And several billion of us just need to go away, ASAP.

          I can’t envision a tidy way out of this. If a thousand whistleblowers came out of the CIA tomorrow explaining things, there simply wouldn’t be any coverage of it, let alone any action on the part of the blackmailed legislature or judiciary.

          Hate to be a downer. Total collapse or status quo.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 20, 2023 at 12:04 pm #

        Something I have noticed, former Bush voters who support Trump now will openly admit they were wrong about the Bushes.

        I don’t see the same thing with as many Democrats who supported Obama, even though they can see that what they thought they were voting for never materialized.

        • mary.m October 21, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

          Maybe afraid of seeming raycist?

          I’m noticing the ones I know are not afraid of regretting their Biden vote.

          I frequently pass an old, old barn that, until a week or 2 ago, had JOEMENTUM painted down its side in giant, very visible, letters.

          Then one day maybe 10 days ago, gone. Not a trace.

          Given it was painted in red, white & blue on old, stained & peeling, cedar shake shingles, that was one helluva scrape job to not leave even a shadow.

      • TallTim October 20, 2023 at 12:06 pm #

        And yet we still vote- pretending it makes a difference.

        • tuco22 October 20, 2023 at 12:20 pm #

          We want it to. We want to believe in something that still works. I think that’s largely it. Myself, I really don’t think we can vote ourselves out of our present situation. Our government has been captured by evil men and women, and the only recourse for it is destruction. That’s a hard thing to say, much less contemplate, but does anyone really believe that THIS TIME, the 2024 election will be fair? Un-gerrymandered? Unrigged? With all the same players in place that were there before?

          • mary.m October 21, 2023 at 1:30 pm #

            This time I do believe I”ve given up. RFK lost me in the last couple weeks.

            My last local election I had a choice between a repub who I know 1st hand is a petty thief & a woke dem.

            I wrote in my dead dog Jake. Actually voted him for several positions.

            I think ’24 if we are permitted to vote it will be Buddha of Loving Kindness dead dog Jake for prez, & my recently deceased Buddha of eternal loyalty & Jake’s shadow, Lunar for VP.

        • Grandpa October 20, 2023 at 4:07 pm #

          Mark Twain said it most succinctly: “If voting mattered, they wouldn’t let us do it”

      • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 12:18 pm #

        Yes, the Beast has two hands. If we only watch the left or D hand, we’ll get clobbered with the right or R hand.

        They’d prefer to stay with the Democrats because pandering to them serves their interests better now. No need to bullship about patriotism, borders, Christianity, etc. But if they must, they could pivot back to that. Especially with war on muliple fronts looming.

      • tlauria October 20, 2023 at 12:41 pm #

        Which Mafia?
        Please define because our country is resplendent with Mafias.
        The Sicilian?
        The Jewish?
        The Irish?
        The Russian?
        The Khazarian?
        The MIC?
        The Party of Chaos?

      • tlauria October 20, 2023 at 12:43 pm #

        rudy,
        Which Mafia?
        Please define because our country is resplendent with Mafias.
        The Sicilian?
        The Jewish?
        The Irish?
        The Russian?
        The Khazarian?
        The MIC?
        The Party of Chaos?

        • rudyspeaks October 20, 2023 at 1:11 pm #

          Great question. May I refer you to Whitney Webb’s 2 volume book “One nation under Blackmail” [https://www.amazon.com/One-Nation-Under-Blackmail-Intelligence/dp/1634243013] A brilliant researcher, she limns the 1941 consolidation of all the separate mobs.[also, if you’ve got the time, Youtube’s “It’s a rich man’s trick”]

        • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 1:30 pm #

          One of those Mafias took over the System. Wisdom is knowing which one. Is it still a Mafia if it is the System? Let Aquinas be your Vergil here.

      • pyrrhus October 20, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

        Yes, and when JK talks about defunding the Stasi…err FBI..just defund it permanently…A change of leadership isn’t going to change the rotten core of corruption…

      • ThorsHammer October 20, 2023 at 7:00 pm #

        Jim, why do you persists in pretending that the words “Republican” and “Democrat” describe different species of snake? In the entire DC swamp there are only a handful who rise to the level of deserving to be called homo sapiens.

        Here in the western plains rattlesnakes den together in caves and under rocks in the winter months. We cowboys have found that dynamite is most effective at that time of year. If only the Deplorables were as effective.

    • liber8tor October 20, 2023 at 1:26 pm #

      Agree. And what’s even more dangerous than the Uniparty and the NYT, is that Biden is not the person in control. (I don’t mean to state the obvious)

      The real man behind-the-curtain, the one who controls the Blob, is that purveyor of death and destruction for two terms, the infamous Barack Obama.

      Obama, Victoria Nuland and the Blob are doing far more than paddle boarding on Martha’s Vinyard.

      The lesser of two evils is still evil, and the United States has operated under that system for over 100 years.

  2. geomo October 20, 2023 at 9:34 am #

    “When you read of “Joe Biden’s” 37 percent favorable rating in some poll, do you wonder how it can be that high?”

    “How is possible that the majority of doctors still don’t know that Covid vaccines are unsafe and ineffective, and that they have been systematically lied to by the CDC from the get-go on this?”

    Two questions among many with a single answer from unknown source but often attributed to Mark Twain.

    “It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”

    • tuco22 October 20, 2023 at 12:16 pm #

      No, I think that the 37 percent favorable rating in some poll is correct, because it’s roughly a third of the country, and Joe’s policies for the last three years have favored a third of the country, when you add up all the special interest groups he’s catered to. So it’s no surprise to me that they support him, no matter what other effects of his policies they suffer.

      • beantownbill. October 20, 2023 at 1:16 pm #

        This is the problem with the democratic process: It’s a binary way of doing things, where there’s little or no option to effectively use multiple actions. 37% means that 1/3rd of the country controls the other 2/3rds. How’s that fair? A more reasonable formula would be a parliamentary system (although humans find ways to get around that).

        In the final analysis though, our shortcomings rule our behaviors.

    • pyrrhus October 20, 2023 at 2:47 pm #

      Also, it is not in many doctors’ financial interest to trash this gene therapy poison..they’re getting bonuses to push it, and if not, they face punishment from their employer for violating the narrative….And Med School didn’t come cheap…

      • ThorsHammer October 20, 2023 at 7:44 pm #

        Pyrrhus

        Almost every medical doctor in the US and Canada is guilty of violation of the Mengele clause of the Nuremberg Accords that prohibits medical experimentation upon human subjects without their FULLY INFORMED consent. If held to that international standard they should all face trial under the death penalty.

        • ThorsHammer October 20, 2023 at 8:31 pm #

          The primary goal of the Emergency Authorization for mRNA non-vaccines was to prevent Fully Informed Consent from any of the millions of people targeted for untested experimentation. It was our Medical Doctor’s duty to fully inform themselves (rather than parroting what their Pfizer drug salesman told them) and to share that knowledge with their patients.

          Guilty as charged.

    • ThorsHammer October 20, 2023 at 7:34 pm #

      geomo

      Statistics like OBiden’s 37% of faithful believers are useful because they measure the extent to which the population is clinically insane and beyond any hope of recovery.

      It’s too bad that the Covid 19 virus developed at Ft. Detrick and it’s companion Pfizer/Moderna “emergency vaccines” was not more highly refined before being turned lose on the world at large. In the long run”vaccine” fatalities pose little danger to we surviving pure bloods while a living 37% of cheerleaders for nuclear extermination is a deadly threat.

  3. Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 9:50 am #

    Good article, Jim. And I agree the GOP should be standing up to try and stop the madness. Instead, they’re engaged in a kindergarten squabble over who gets which crayons and coloring book (see the Kim Strassel column in today’s WSJ). They’re such an embarrassment that they may have guaranteed a Democrat landslide across the board next year, even without the usual vote fraud. Their reputation so so tarnished that even showing videos of Slow Joe pocketing bribes wouldn’t be able to overcome crimes of “partisan witch hunt!” at this point. Plus, if Jordan becomes Speaker, that would leave the Judiciary Committee in the hands of some nitwit who wouldn’t push the issue.

    • hortonz October 20, 2023 at 10:31 am #

      Why didn’t the Blob know the deadly Hamas massacre was about to occur? Because the Blob was actually supporting them to the tune of 6 billion dollars.

      • TallTim October 20, 2023 at 12:13 pm #

        Excuse me but in what world is there no response for up to 7 hours? If you think this was some sort of organic response to the oppression, you learned nothing from 9/11 and many others.

    • cbeard October 20, 2023 at 11:17 am #

      The GOP is just as responsible as the Dems for the madness.

      • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 2:11 pm #

        I think I said that.

        I have no idea how the other two responses fit my comment, aside from being non sequiturs.

    • Jimpa October 21, 2023 at 9:34 am #

      But…with no Speaker, they’re not voting on funding for Ukraine and Israel. That’s a good thing.

  4. tractorguy October 20, 2023 at 9:51 am #

    “One might expect, at this turn in history, for the Republican Party to become a righteous and effective antipode to the epic malign ineptitude of the Democrat’s Party of Chaos and Death. The only venue for this to opposition to function in at the moment is the US House of Representatives. ”

    Unfortunately, at the moment they are so divided amongst themselves they can’t even settle on a speaker. There may be a few that realize we just can’t keep adding to the deficit at the rate now of another $1T every 40 days, but they are a minority, unable to bring about action on their own (at least so far), and are under the heel of those that can’t even imagine giving up a tiny percentage of their free sh!t.

    • SteveK9 October 20, 2023 at 10:10 am #

      What is happening is inevitable. This is part of the transition of the Republican Party from the ‘establishment’ to the right-wing populist party of the MAGA supporters of Trump. That will take time.

      The same thing happened to the Democrats. Do you think the Democrat Party is still the party of the ‘working-man’?

      • Beryl of Oyl October 20, 2023 at 10:23 am #

        As this man, Toby Rogers, points out, what happens with the Speaker is crucial, and most people understand that but don’t understand that this is the reason why:

        A Covidian CANNOT be House Speaker.

        Either get
        @Jim_Jordan
        across the line or elect
        @RepThomasMassie
        .

        If a Covidian is named Speaker there is no reason to support Republicans in 2024.

        https://x.com/uTobian/status/1715106904316498261?s=20

      • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 10:33 am #

        This is why we should reinstitute the draft.

        Where do people think hippies were born from?
        The anti-war left?

        A petri dish of patchouli, bong water, and granola serenanded by sitar music?

        No. It was the draft. The Vietnam War draft.

        I say bring the draft back.

        Sure, the democrat party has become the party of big-pharma, vaxx-me-up, authoritarian spying, limousine liberals (does not affect me).

        But a draft will shake them out of theit navel-gazing stupor.
        You won’t be a bloke contemplating dressing up as Loni Anderson or some purple haired fat chick getting your breasts sawed off if having to go to the frontlines of Ukraine are occuppying your fragile mind.

        • Mac October 20, 2023 at 10:43 am #

          A draft? Right. I’ll consider it after you and your sons have already volunteered.

          • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 10:47 am #

            You’re missing the point.
            Where is the retard patch around here? I want to burn it.

        • Jimmy Word October 20, 2023 at 10:45 am #

          Reinstituting the draft would indeed be an interesting social experiment. I’d like to see it too.

          • cbeard October 20, 2023 at 11:32 am #

            A draft is the only way the government can get more than a few low IQ fools to join the military. The country has devolved into a cesspool that is not worth fighting for. It is worth fighting the PTB in order to save it. Anyone with any brains, morals, balls would ignore a draft.

          • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 11:41 am #

            You have it backwards.

            Volunteer armies rely on the low IQ types.
            This is why recruiters start cold-calling from the bottom of the school rolls.

            In theory, a lottery draft system would pull from all tiers of the socio-economic and intelligence heirarchy.

            With a caveat. No deferments. No exceptions.

            Sorry Cheney, Romney (a Mormon mission in the French Riviera), Bush (NoGo pilot).

            If one ignores the draft one goes to prison. General pop. Until they reconsider.

          • loosethedogs October 20, 2023 at 12:06 pm #

            “Reinstituting the draft would indeed be an interesting social experiment. I’d like to see it too.”

            Hence the wave of illegal military age males being ushered across our borders. Meet your new military who would have no qualms about terminating American citizens labelled as “domestic terrorists”.

          • Jimmy Word October 20, 2023 at 12:08 pm #

            With a caveat. No deferments. No exceptions.

            Sorry Cheney, Romney (a Mormon mission in the French Riviera), Bush (NoGo pilot).

            If one ignores the draft one goes to prison. General pop. Until they reconsider.

            There’s the rub. No way in hell that would ever be imposed. The rich and powerful truly are different from the rest of us. They’re rich and powerful.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 20, 2023 at 12:11 pm #

            Avatar, that’s when the public got really heated over the Viet Nam War, wasn’t it?

            When Nixon switched the draft to a lottery system, and took away deferments?

          • tuco22 October 20, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

            Would instituting a draft have an impact on gender transitioning, do you think?

          • hmuller October 20, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

            I heard the new US military offers soldiers free sex change operations with follow up gender transitioning care.

            How big a draw do you suppose that amounts to? And do we really want people who join up simply because they want their genitalia mutilated?

          • BackRowHeckler October 20, 2023 at 2:02 pm #

            That’s true Muller. What’s more the Transitioning soldier is given two years of Gender Affirming Care, and no time in his subsequent military career can the Tranny soldier be deployed overseas. Trans soldiers are also exempt from PT & body weight restrictions.

        • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

          Yes, it has to be for women too. This is the only way to get them back in dresses and in the kitchen.

          The Fridge stays locked along with the cookies jar, etc. The husband must send a code so they can open them.

          • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 12:31 pm #

            Oh beyond women, it will be LGBTQ?+2 spirited & Furry.
            Fog a mirror?
            You’re shipping out to Iran.

          • Rowdypiglet October 22, 2023 at 11:15 am #

            Jarek, my great grandfather was a policeman. I have a picture of him, resplendent in his uniform and holding his helmet, which adorns the refrigerator door. He looks at me very sternly every time I approach. I take this look seriously and open with discretion. 😉

          • Jarek October 22, 2023 at 1:36 pm #

            A helmet? Was he a British Bobby? They were said to have been impressive men: Unfailing polite and helpful, but never to be trifled with.

            Didn’t carry guns. Didn’t need to. The marvel of a high functioning society.

        • D from OR October 20, 2023 at 12:27 pm #

          “Where do people think hippies were born from? The anti-war left? No. It was the draft. The Vietnam War draft.”

          Wrong.

          The Boomers did not end the war by protesting no matter how many times they try and say they did.

          We were losing “the war” so TPTB bombed the shit out of them, said we won and left everything in ruins (as we do).

          A draft only works if you have a system to police it. Currently the U.S. has neither.

          • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 12:46 pm #

            D, attention to detail is the order of the day.

            I did not say that “boomers’ ended the war.

            You said that.

            I provided an answer to where (the since disappeared) anti-war left and hippies came from.

            An answer as to where have the peace, anti-war demonstrators, student activists have gone. As to why the democratic party has become the latest host to the neocon virus. Why it is pro war.

            Their constituents have no fear of having to serve in the wars that the people they vote for and support entangle us in.
            The wars they fund.

            Just think what a draft would do for the inner cities and the over-enrolled colleges full of BS degree chasers?

            Less time for crime less time for going broke learning about trans studies.
            More time to rethink your vote.

          • tuco22 October 20, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

            If they link it to climate change, they’ll create a system.

          • Paula D October 20, 2023 at 3:55 pm #

            True. An enforced involuntary servitude program that kidnaps teenagers and forces them to learn to kill other people, with a chance that they will also be killed or crippled for life, does tend to make people rebel.

            Go figure.

            It’s almost as though people don’t appreciate being enslaved in order to make the MIC richer.

            I find it odd that people who don’t want to be involuntarily injected with experimental drugs (also done in the military), and think that the current government is too oppressive, are fine with bringing back the most oppressive attack on a citizen’s freedom and autonomy possible.

            Oh, wait, I get it. It’s fine because it’s other people, not you.

          • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 4:26 pm #

            Paula, perhaps a draft will wake the slumbering former peacenik grandparents from their slumber.

            Imagine if their party, the peace party, drafted their grandkids.

            We can time these geezers taking down the Ukraine flags from the front stoop’s flag bracket, hurriedly taking a safety razor to their Ukraine and Biden window stickers. In seconds.

            They may have avoided the draft, but Sally (formerly Sal) and Kenny (formerly Kendra) ain’t.

          • Grandpa October 20, 2023 at 6:08 pm #

            lots of boomers were in the war, fighting. The other Boomers are submarines, and you’d be wise.to leave them a wide berth.

        • ThorsHammer October 20, 2023 at 8:18 pm #

          100th Avatar

          I’m all in favor of bringing back the draft.

          I would like to see a few refinements though—-

          We should draft militarily personnel according to how much benefit they have received from their citizenship. So at the head of the list should be the offspring of Trillionaires, then Billionaires then Millionaires, the offspring of Presidents, Senators, Representatives, Lobbyists. Generals, and Pharma executives. The draft list could be expanded down almost infinitely before it reaches the factory workers and farm laborers that it now targets.

          And think how much better our Armed Forces would be if it were filled with the Best and Brightest! LOL

          • 100th Avatar October 21, 2023 at 9:47 am #

            Excellent idea. Besides, need to leave people on the homefront who actually know how to labor and build and toil. The military can put the cream skimmers to good use.

      • JohnAZ October 20, 2023 at 11:14 am #

        It does not make sense. The extreme conservatives are blocking the ascension of a Fox backed very active conservative Republican. It does not make sense.

        Unless the real aim of the Super-conservatives is to just shut the sucker down, totally. In that case, no one is going to get the gavel, ever.

        Has any news person even asked Goetz et al who they want and what they want? i haven’t heard anything.

        • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 11:53 am #

          “Fox backed”

          The clowns of society are legion.

        • TallTim October 20, 2023 at 12:17 pm #

          They are all too busy sucking up to their pay masters

        • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

          What kind of conservatives? American ones or war hawk, pro-Israeli ones?

          You imagine these are the same, right? Fox is of the latter camp.

          • megabeth October 21, 2023 at 10:24 am #

            Amen. Fox is neocon/neolib city.

        • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 6:23 pm #

          It makes perfect sense when you realize that “conservative” is a vague descriptor used by news people who equate “non-leftist-fascist” with “evil.” Many of these nimrods are called “ultraconservative,” like Jordan, when a true ultraconservative would be someone on the order of a Metternich. Remember, about a century ago a liberal would’ve been a McKinley, Coolidge or Cleveland, not a Roosevelt (either one), LBJ, Bush (either one), or Biden; this changed when Progressives, having temporarily blown it, relabeled themselves as liberals and their opponents as conservatives.

    • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 10:25 am #

      It’s a planned pushback against Republican voters by purposely decreasing votes for Jordan because he dared run against Scalise.

      TBH, I wanted Scalise two weeks ago. Now, I wouldn’t support him. These dumb fuckers are throwing the country under the bus because they’re too busy fighting over who gets to use the “plum” crayon on the worksheet with a rainbow. Not all of them are bad or stupid, but there are more than enough of them (ex.: Nancy Mace telling a Christian family group about fucking her boyfriend all weekend, and she needs his throbbing phallus touching her again right away) to cause this chaos. It lends yet more credence to the accusation that the whole damn thing is a sham, and we’re suckers for thinking we can change anything.

      • Bill of Rights October 20, 2023 at 11:11 am #

        Hi Uncle Bob.

        I read that one of the republicans voted for Scalise yesterday — but Scalise isn’t even running for Speaker. So what does that person expect to accomplish by voting for a guy who isn’t even in the race?

        It’s like betting on the Dolphins to win a game between the Red Sox and the Yankees.

        • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 2:18 pm #

          Multiple congresspeople are voting for Scalise to shove it up Jordan’s ass. Or, more correctly, to shove it up the ass of any Republican who wants House leadership to follow through on its promises of fiscal responsibility. One guy was even reported as saying he hates Jordan because Jordan showed no leadership by not supporting McCarthy and Scalise — even though he did. This same genius then said he’d never support Jordan as a way of paying back Gaetz. To take your comment a step further, that’s like castrating yourself without anesthesia because a couple in another part of town had an argument over what kind of wine you serve with hamburgers. (The answer: Beer. Or Cokes/Pepsis.) Such goddamn stupidity that just makes every lie the Dems have ever said about them look like it came from the Burning Bush.

  5. RaymondR October 20, 2023 at 9:55 am #

    In Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn’s novel 1914, he has a young draftee officer state “the worse the better”. Before JHK’s desired clean up of American institutions can take place, things will have to get much worse. Alternatively, an event that spurs action will be needed.

    Sadly, it all means more suffering for the American people

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    • SteveK9 October 20, 2023 at 10:12 am #

      I’ve thought that forever. And worse, the revolution might never come. Historically people have to be literally starving to fight against the State. I don’t think it will ever get that bad, so maybe we will just have a degraded society in perpetuity.

      • Lyndy33 October 20, 2023 at 10:27 am #

        When we read 1984 or Soylent Green we are intrigued by the conditions at that time. But those conditions didn’t happen in the blink of an eye. It took years for those conditions to be manifested. We are living those years and know not what the results will be.

      • Jimmy Word October 20, 2023 at 10:29 am #

        It might indeed get that bad. Unfortunately, starving, dumbed down, disarmed people do not an effective opposition make.

        • jackrabbit October 20, 2023 at 10:33 am #

          Starving and disarmed? Have you seen the average ‘merican?

          • Jimmy Word October 20, 2023 at 10:43 am #

            Yeah, but just imagine all those fatties rampaging after Mickey D’s and Dominoes stop serving. Talk about a Thundering Herd!

          • badberries October 20, 2023 at 11:20 am #

            yes jackrabbit, to quote a friend (rip):
            “The things you see when you don’t have a Harpoon”.

      • gustafson.robert.22 October 20, 2023 at 10:38 am #

        It will get that bad, but it could take quite some time. Decades.

      • boarwild October 20, 2023 at 11:04 am #

        As long as “normie” stays drunk & distracted on his light beer, Doritos, & sportsball nothing will ever change.

        I threw the NFL in the toilet years ago; politics & sports shouldn’t ever mix. Unfortunately there is little to no escape from politics anymore.

        • Rain Waters October 20, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

          Move outa the box. You would be amazed.

        • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 12:29 pm #

          College and sports too – a horrendous combination born in hell.

          Pro-sports have no place in real Academia.

          • BackRowHeckler October 20, 2023 at 1:56 pm #

            Yes, but but then the NBA & NFL would have to set up their own Minor Leagues. That costs money.

          • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 2:18 pm #

            Money they don’t have. Better to get it from weirdos supporting their alma maters. Smart guys who like sports!

      • canuk October 20, 2023 at 11:20 am #

        Roman Republic (America is a Republic the plebes had ‘revolutions in 494, 335, 212 and 133 (murder of Tiberius Gracchus) where they withdrew their labour and achieved more rights -they weren’t starving.

        But for the most part you are correct.

  6. Htruth October 20, 2023 at 10:03 am #

    Supernova Concert Site Location Moved 2 Days Before Attack In Israel: https://americanyellowvest.wordpress.com/2023/10/11/supernova-concert-site-location-moved-2-days-before-attack-in-israel/

    Israel Supernova Concert Organizers Killed https://youtu.be/d74tAYYjb8Q?si=oQFm8-CXgkIb8Qvw

    • Beryl of Oyl October 20, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

      Nobody cares about how it happened, just like they don’t want to know about how the scamdemic came about.

  7. chopper October 20, 2023 at 10:09 am #

    I do not believe our situation is a scrambled egg that politicians can put back together. Nor do I believe a segment of our population will tolerate much more abuse of government authority by the blob. We only need a spark to set this situation off for the minority to act while the majority of Americans wring their hands over the destruction I see coming.

    • canuk October 20, 2023 at 10:21 am #

      I have to agree.

    • JohnAZ October 20, 2023 at 11:26 am #

      We had the spark. The “majority” threw him out.

      I do not see any more sparks.

      Even facing five politically motivated bullshit court cases, the polls show him ahead of the man in office who stole the election.

    • Wizard of the Saddle October 20, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

      I also agree.

    • Grandpa October 20, 2023 at 6:34 pm #

      I concur

  8. Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 10:13 am #

    Sort of like how the Bolsheviks took over Russia and got rid of the Mensheviks, no?

    • BackRowHeckler October 20, 2023 at 1:54 pm #

      Yes, exterminated the Mensheviks & their good friends & Comrades in Arms the Anarchists.

  9. canuk October 20, 2023 at 10:18 am #

    My only complaint about our talented Mr. Kuntsler is that he seems to have a Manichean model of American politics: Democrats are Evil (agreed) Republicans Good (not agreed).

    To me it is Kabuki theatre= all the politicians are but ‘messenger boys’. At least all the ones that have (are allowed) significant seats of power-.

    To me: Democrats, evil; Republican, bad.

    I must admit my cynicism dropped when RFK Jr. got in the race but his bloodthirstiness about the Siege of Gaza has smothered the last flame of hope in my admittedly, ‘jaded mind’.

    • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 10:56 am #

      Democrats: Party of Evil — actual satanic evil, full of mind-fucks and Hobson’s choices and blackmail.

      Republucans: Party of Stupidity — some naive/idealistic people, but run by corrupt or corruptible morons who think they’re smarter or more clever than anyone, but who tend to be outsmarted by Pelosi, Schoolmarm Schumer, or Biden. Even when they get something right, they *still* find a way to fuck it up. Seen by many as the only solution because there’s not enough, time, money or power elsewhere to fight Satan’s Party; it’s like sending infants up against several legions of hardened Roman soldiers.

      • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 12:33 pm #

        Almost. Pro-Wrestling. The bad guys and good guys are all friends back in the locker room. Bush Sr loved Bubba Clinton. Bush Jr and Michelle Obama get along famously.

        Who are the bad guys and who are the good guys? It all depends on who you ask. In Truth, they’re all bad, with a few exceptions perhaps – at least above the State level.

        • beantownbill. October 20, 2023 at 1:29 pm #

          Although you and I disagree on most everything, your analogy here is right on. So who is Killer Kowalski and who is Haystacks Calhoun?

          • BackRowHeckler October 20, 2023 at 4:15 pm #

            Consider that a tag team of midgets once took down Haystacks Calhoun in the first round. Of course this was in Haystacks later years.

        • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 6:30 pm #

          Although, the examples you give are all some sort of Progressive or other — which is to say, a love of the sort of free-spending, freedom-eliminating big government most of us abhor.

      • RD3 October 20, 2023 at 12:37 pm #

        “You have the evil party and the stupid party. Occasionally, they get together to do something that is both stupid and evil. This is called bi-partisanship.”

        – Sam Francis

        • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 6:27 pm #

          Right.

    • loosethedogs October 20, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

      Canuk: You should have seen that coming; the first thing RFK did before announcing was to “kiss the Zionist ring”. You cannot even THINK about becoming a Federal level politician in America without proper obeisance to the Zion which has captured our nation.

  10. 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 10:18 am #

    “Don’t you suppose some kind of effective opposition is required to contend with all this. One might expect, at this turn in history, for the Republican Party to become a righteous and effective antipode to the epic malign ineptitude of the Democrat’s Party of Chaos and Death.”

    The GOP is attempting to coalesce, but not as opposition, but as Bush/Cheney/Neocon/McCain 2.0. They want their constituents to unite behind EVEN MORE war. And to an extent, it has been effective with the knee-jerk war-hawks who still haunt the party.

    The JohnAZ types.

    Dave Smith hosted Greenwald on his podcast a few days ago, and they made an excellent point: the Israel/Palestine situation has become a litmus test for the conservatives who claim they are “woke” to the reality of the Republican party. Many have failed. Just like that, they rally around the bombs. They are easily swayed by emotion and fear. They give up liberty, sovereignty, wealth, independence, and peace for security, from fear.

    Again, let us look at the habitual mouthpieces of the neocon war-hawk right: Hannity, Faux News (of course) Breitbart, Ben “Zionist” Shapiro, Citizen Free Press, and every other alternative conservative news outlet masquerading as populist, America-first, MAGA, anti-war, anti-empire, new-right, paleocon, blah-blah-blah. Just like that, they reverted to bomb ’em all, send over the troops, fund the wars.

    Perhaps this did not rope enough conservatives in.
    They often have a plan for getting the reluctants onboard.

    Terrorist attack in America on 5, 4, 3, 2…

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    • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 10:21 am #

      Everbody’s favorite midwestern pncil-neck “new” republican, Hawley (not Cotton) wants FBI investigating the pro-palestinian types.
      He knows at the end of the day who butters his bread. Who pays for his campaigns. It’s not the MAGA working-class people.

    • canuk October 20, 2023 at 10:29 am #

      I agree with most of your idea but I would adjust one line: “Just like that, they [GOP] ray around the bombs”

      You are right, but the ‘bombs’ are the literal symbol of the MIC so I would suggest, “rally around the money.”

      In a Madmen episode Raytheon (circa 1967 at the height of the Vietnam war) had come to the advertising co’s office for a meeting as they were going to start advertising. The Raytheon executives explained a bit about their business-making bombs- then one junior ad exc stated rapturously,

      “This is the greatest product ever. Extremely expensive use only once”

      So maybe your phrase is apt after all.

    • JohnAZ October 20, 2023 at 11:38 am #

      Ha, you make me laugh.

      In your world, we watch a group of terrorists control the geo-politics of the world. They just raise hell wherever it is convenient. They butcher without remorse. They do it for the thrill show, the fear they generate in people like you. Excuse makers for a world wide society of thugs and punks.

      Yes, I believe that one side or the other needs to obliterate the other, to avoid any more Koreas, Vietnams, Iraqs, Irans, Afghanistans. If that is what a neocon is in your eyes, sign me up.

      Ever thinks that if wars were allowed to go to a victory by one side throughout the world, the MIC would eventually go out of business. Think JFK, assassinated because he would not back up the Deep State MIC re: Cuba and Russia.

      • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 11:48 am #

        John, you are well below informed, you are low intelligence.
        Frightening so and not worth the time to address.
        Go “sign up”. Go over there. Go volunteer.

        • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 6:32 pm #

          If he’s not worth your time, why are you wasting your time replying to him?

        • Rowdypiglet October 22, 2023 at 11:25 am #

          Sorry, Avatar, but a personal attack does not constitute an argument. JohnAZ made one, however much you may disagree with it. If you have a counter argument, it would be wise to state it and dispense with name calling.

      • Night Owl October 20, 2023 at 4:30 pm #

        Israel is a globalist foothold in the ME. Created by the Balfour Declaration.

        It is much like Ukraine, a cat’s paw that the globalist financial criminals can use to grab resources over time.

        In fact, the timing of what just happened could not be more relevant.

    • tuco22 October 20, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

      I think it’s just a matter of time before one happens. I believe it’s in the book Countdown to Jerusalem that it’s stated our government believed (at the time of the book’s writing, which was several years ago) that there were six nuclear devices planted in locations around the country designed to blanket the nation with radiation once detonated. And even if something like that isn’t in the offing, with the terrorists Joe Biden has let into the country, it’s just a matter of time before something happens, and they’ve got a ready-made boogeyman in “white supremacists.”

      • beantownbill. October 20, 2023 at 1:36 pm #

        I stated 45 years ago there were nukes planted around the country, but everyone I knew thought the idea was funny. They said nukes could not be hidden because they were detectable. Oh, well.

        • Qwibqwib October 20, 2023 at 9:22 pm #

          They can be hidden and they are detectable. Look at youtube.com/watch?v=42iZmEq7z6A where you will see a break down of the active search, by the US .gov, for those hidden nukes…

      • Anthea October 21, 2023 at 1:55 pm #

        The US has an abundance of valuable resources. I can’t see that any foreign power would want to destroy them or render them inaccessible for thousands of years by nuking us.

        Here’s what I’d do: I would target military installations and manunfacturers of arms and ammunition. I would use one of two–or possible both–methods. I would simply take them over, using some of the many well armed, well trained, and well organized groups already present in the US; namely, the drug cartels–though there are probably others. The drug cartels are de facto employees of the Chinese anyway. As I understand it, the personnel at military installations are not allowed to be armed, and the manufacturers of arms and ammunition are merely civilian contractors, who would offer no resistance. Easy-peasy.

        Second possible scenario: I would have compromised the people at the highest levels of military installations and arms and munitions manufacturers. I would have bribed them to turn over the installations and manufacturing plants to officials of said foreign power (whoever that might be), likely the Chinese. Said officials would of course be backed by the force of arms, likely drug cartel members.

        It looks to me like many, many military personnel are not loyal to the US and would be more than happy to get paid bunches of money to surrender military installations without resistance.

        In this scenario, the foreign “invader” would now control all US arms and munitions and could go about subduing the civilian population at its leisure, being more than adequately armed to do so–and with no worries about supply lines.

        Now that I think of it, perhaps this is the reason why my rural agricultural area has been (as far as I can tell) unaffected by adverse reactions to the covid vaccines: we are planned to be their commissary–thus eliminating another supply-line problem.

        Now, if I were said invading foreign power, I would also take out most of the large cities, due to their useless and troublesome populations, but I’d do it with conventional weapons.

        I wouldn’t specifically target centers of political power, as they are just nobodies anyway–just a bunch of grifters and ticks with no power of their own.

    • loosethedogs October 20, 2023 at 12:39 pm #

      100th: You nailed it. The beauty of it though is that the all the pseudo conservative pundits “came out” of the closet when the Israel blew the whistle. Just like the CV debacle brought out the fascist talking heads and celebrities. the good news is that these two “outing” events have really shortened my alt media reading list.

      • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

        Same here.
        It was high time for a purge.

      • Night Owl October 20, 2023 at 4:27 pm #

        MTG was recently losing her shit. I recall how much she was propping up the soft globalist McCarthy.

        The beauty of times like these is the masks all drop.

        Truth is all that matters.

  11. Jimmy Word October 20, 2023 at 10:18 am #

    It’s either that or something harsh, bloody, and awful lies ahead for us.

    Nailed it one!

    Seriously, there is no mythical “opposition” party to come riding in on a great white steed. I thought that was just common knowledge. Apparently word gets around slowly.

    • Groundhog October 20, 2023 at 10:43 am #

      Maybe we’re in the process of giving birth to a new decentralized living arrangement here in the USA – without a federal government. Anyone who’s witnessed a mammal giving birth – be it a human, a cow, or a dog – will witness something harsh and a bit bloody. Our transition to a sane society will involve the very sad and embarrassing spectacle of most all of the crazy people passing away. In the broken down West, the future will belong to people who can build homes with hand tools, grow their own food, and who can ride bicycles and motorbikes.

      • JohnAZ October 20, 2023 at 11:46 am #

        No. The people today do not have the skills to build homes or grow their own food. People have moved to cities, to Alaska, to the desert southwest for example. These are places where you cannot grow your own food. Go back in history, today we have evolved from an agrarian society where people farmed to survive. What we have evolved into is totally non-sustainable? What will occur is the massive, think 80%, die off, especially in the cities. Seeing that Gates et al want this to occur, it seems to me that maybe that is what all this reset shit is about in the first place.

        If your broken down West includes about 20% emailing, I would agree with you. Remember though that this is world wide, if the USA and Europe go, so does the world.

        Although BRICS++ may think differently.

        • D from OR October 20, 2023 at 12:54 pm #

          Of course as a consumer of all things Mass Media you have a cartoon view of the world.

          I guess the garden we (and my neighbors on each side) grew this summer (still going!) was a just an anomaly – especially given we are in the city.

          All the fruit I’ve been given or can get via the handy Portland Gleaners Map is just a simple mistake or something?

          Maybe in Arizona things are different Maybe your HOA doesn’t allow for a garden but that doesn’t mean the rest of the country is like you and your neighbors living in the desert.

          Confusing the government for the people is common for those with doctrinaire views like yourself.

          Your hope and desire for collapse in the U.S. is motivated by the idea that you will be able to put your hands on your hips and wag your finger at everyone and say, “I told you so.”

          • beantownbill. October 20, 2023 at 1:41 pm #

            Rather harsh, D. Growing a garden, which isn’t possible everywhere, does not make one independent.

          • Night Owl October 20, 2023 at 4:26 pm #

            You are both right and wrong. In a true collapse scenario, you aren’t going to get far without a lot of help.

            Even people with autonomous setups of many acres, with a well, animals, fruit trees, etc., aren’t going to get far without a community of others doing the same.

            I understand the sentiment, but it still takes a village.

            A real parallel society is needed. As the psychopaths are not going away.

          • Rowdypiglet October 22, 2023 at 11:44 am #

            @D From OR, The garden you mention, and the fruit given to you would readily disappear in the event of a serious breakdown of services. Anyone who was hungry – and there would be plenty of them – could and would drop by your garden and partake of it. If you had some means to protect it, that wouldn’t last long either and you’d soon be overwhelmed. There are simply too many people in any city to be accommodated by roof gardens and plots here and there. Even under present conditions, I doubt that your garden and fruit would supply you with sufficient food.

            In the rural area where I live, the population is low, the neighbors are friendly, there are many large gardens, farms, and people who know how to build things. We could actually provide for the people who live here. Even so, it’s fragile. If a few hundred people were to move here who required these things but didn’t produce them, that’s all it would take to destroy the viability of the community.

        • malthuss October 20, 2023 at 1:29 pm #

          Farmers are growing food in the desert.
          ‘frugal off grid’ is the utube channel.

        • Anthea October 21, 2023 at 3:58 pm #

          Humans have been building shelters and growing food for thousands of years. They’ll figure it out. One of their main difficulties will be gaining access to a plot of land for doing so. Their other main difficulty will be a lack of will to do so. I would expect that a very large percentage of the population will simply sink into depression and despair. There is a quality of enervation about many modern people: “a lack of mental and moral vigor,” as Webster puts it. Or, as my mother would have put it, “They’re just too beat down.” There’s a lack of initiative and self-direction, presumably because it’s been beat out of them.

          Expanding on beantownbill’s comment, growing a garden doesn’t (necessarily) make one independent. If you could add livestock to mix, you’d probably be okay, though leading a pretty austere life. But people have always found other ways to manage. You could own (or rig up) a still. You could practice medicine. You could buy and sell or manufacture the things people need or want. (You could be a soap maker.) You could be a horse breeder. You could fix cars or build buggies. You could become a baker or miller or blacksmith or gunsmith, or you could run a sawmill. You could operate an inn or boarding house. Ideally, you’d want to be food self-sufficient while at the same time running some business enterprises.

      • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 12:38 pm #

        Yes, nations are born in blood and die in blood. Esta la vida. It is the Life!

        And the in between as well. Different genotypes, sub-species, or races behave differently. How different the Bonobos or Dwarf Chimps are from the Chimps. But they are almost identical genetically. Different races.

  12. hmuller October 20, 2023 at 10:20 am #

    JHK your mass impeachment solution is pie in the sky.

    It’s as if murdering, child raping, psychopathic marauders have taken over your house and you think you can make them go away with an eviction order from the local magistrate

    This long ruling Cabal won’t give up its power, wealth, and control while life still beats in its demonic heart. They must be taken out by any means necessary. Play nice, play by the rules, and we will lose. Our descendants will live as slaves under high-tech totalitarianism.

    • Jimmy Word October 20, 2023 at 10:25 am #

      He’s a dreamer.

    • JohnAZ October 20, 2023 at 11:51 am #

      The lobbyist industry, that actually runs Congress, has made a large majority of Congressmen just as guilty as the rest of the Biden Mob. So opening up Pandora’s box by actually going after Hunter and his old man, may be impossible.

      Jim Jordan might be the Boy Scout that the entire Deep State fears.

      • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 7:13 pm #

        Possibly another reason why his candidacy for the Speakership has been stymied by his alleged allies.

    • tuco22 October 20, 2023 at 12:03 pm #

      I’ve been binge-watching horror movies in anticipation of Halloween, and your scenario reminds me a lot of one of those horror movies.

    • beantownbill. October 20, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

      H,
      Ya gotta start somewhere.

    • Soul Forensics October 20, 2023 at 6:24 pm #

      I’ve been binge-listening traditional Rajasthani folk songs. If I’m going down soon, I want to enjoy the moment, hence ‘carpe diem’ is too forward looking. My preferred expression is now ‘vive in hora’ (‘live in the hour’).

      • Jarek October 21, 2023 at 1:16 pm #

        Don’t forget snake charmer music.

  13. Jimmy Word October 20, 2023 at 10:24 am #

    Biden declares Israel and Ukraine support is vital for US security, will ask Congress for billions

    AP News

    Biden’s speech reflected an expansive view of U.S. obligations overseas at a time when he faces political resistance at home to additional funding. He’s expected to ask for $105 billion on Friday, including $60 billion for Ukraine, much of which would replenish U.S. weapons stockpiles provided earlier.

    There’s also $14 billion for Israel, $10 billion for unspecified humanitarian efforts, $14 billion for managing the U.S.-Mexico border and fighting fentanyl trafficking and $7 billion for the Indo-Pacific region, which includes Taiwan. The proposal was described by three people familiar with the details who insisted on anonymity before the official announcement.

    ****************

    Faithful servant Biden to ask Congress for $Billions more for his wars. Who’d have ever thunk that murdering people could be so damn profitable? And the shit of it is, he’ll get it and much, much more. Country, shitter, swirling…

    “Look at the balls on that one! Big fucking brass ones!”

    I could be mistaken, but apparently Joe Biden ain’t planning on going anywhere. War, what is it good for? Reelecting incumbent “war presidents,” that’s what.

    • JohnAZ October 20, 2023 at 11:54 am #

      Re-electing Deep States. Getting people “unified”.

      Keeping the MIC and intelligence community in place and very quiet.

  14. jackrabbit October 20, 2023 at 10:31 am #

    ‘Mail in ballot trickery’ JFC

    • Mac October 20, 2023 at 12:03 pm #

      No other explanation for the number of votes Biden received

      • jackrabbit October 20, 2023 at 12:25 pm #

        You mean people were allowed to vote? Oh noes!

        • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 12:43 pm #

          More than once in fact. Dead people too!

          • jackrabbit October 20, 2023 at 1:07 pm #

            That’s a lie klanboy. Unless you’re referring to the repubs that got caught but somehow I doubt it.

          • kbird October 20, 2023 at 1:53 pm #

            Yes some people voted more than once, that was Republicans that did that, keep trying Jarek.

          • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 2:16 pm #

            No Democrats did? And your proof is….?

            Remember the Pizza boxes! They have been saved and a shrine is being created.

        • Night Owl October 20, 2023 at 4:23 pm #

          Where are the Russo-Nazi sleeper cells you promised?

          It was the Fourth Reich you said.

          LOL.

      • tuco22 October 20, 2023 at 12:49 pm #

        I think there were a fair number of people who voted for Joe, for different reasons. The pocs voted for him because he promised to put them at the top of the pyramid socially, economically and politically in the United States, and he has delivered on that promise; the gay community voted for him because he promoted gay rights by fiat; and a large portion of the country voted for him just because they didn’t like Trump. I don’t believe the course of the country these last three years has greatly changed the minds of that demographic.

        • Beryl of Oyl October 20, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

          Some people read the papers and saw the news on their iPhones, and voted for Biden because Orange Man Bad.

          I have a couple of nephews who did that.

          • jackrabbit October 20, 2023 at 1:58 pm #

            Well, uh, Orange Man Rapist is/was bad and now he’s facing accountability for once in his life.

        • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 7:35 pm #

          Black men supported Trump until late in the 2020 campaign; black women didn’t. Fear of missing out on sex may have played a role. For example, 50 Cent endorsed Trump. Then Chelsea Handler publicly told him she’d never service him again unless he backed Biden. Apparently she’s the best lay in the universe (or he’s just a chickenshit) because he did what the white woman told him to do.

    • Anthea October 22, 2023 at 8:59 am #

      @ jackrabbit:

      You live in a nation in which all the institutions of the US and the West in general are collapsing all around you: not just elections, but also education, health care, the judicial system, the financial/economic system, and all the rest. The floor is collapsing from beneath your feet, and a portion of the roof has fallen in. Several of the light fixtures are arcing, and someone has set the curtains on fire in the back bedroom. You are the guy sitting in his recliner watching TV and insisting that everything is fine–because the TV said so.

  15. buckeyeman October 20, 2023 at 10:33 am #

    Dear JHK,

    Well, you hit the target but MISSED the bullseye by a wide margin. Impeachment is fine as a first step but the many, MANY criminals operating freely in our “government” must be prosecuted criminally.

    A case in point – James Comey committed the the most public obstruction of justice in the history of obstruction of justice when he “exonerated” Hillary. At the time of Comey’s public pronouncements there were millions of jaws hanging agape at his assertion that no reasonable prosecutor would pursue the multiple felonies he had just enumerated.

    At that time, we didn’t even know the full depth of the criminal conspiracy – “interviewing” Hillary without recording or under oath and with fellow co-conspirators allowed to sit it. It was a transparent sham and everyone knows it but what came of it – NOTHING. (Remember too, the “investigation” was re-opened when it came to light that the NYPD had Anthony Wiener’s laptop, chock full of top secret docs, but that was the last anyone ever heard of Anthony Wiener’s laptop)

    Trump PROMISED us he would drain the swamp but one of his first acts was to appoint James Comey to continue as FBI Director! WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was followed by four long years of incomprehensible blunders and inaction by Trump. The consequences were bad for Trump but catastrophic for the USA – we now have multiple governmental agencies who brazenly violate the law knowing that they are “protected”. They know that we know that they know and they just don’t care because there’s NOTHING we can do about it.

    2nd Amendment blah, blah, blah. I’m armed up more than 99.9 percent of you but I also understand that neither I nor any of you are actually going to do anything substantial. It worked for the Jacobins, it worked for the Bolsheviks, it worked for the Deutsche Nationalsozialisten, it worked for the CCP, it worked for Pol Pot and it’s working for Barak Obiden.

    So, in the extremely unlikely event that the Deep State slips a gear and DJT gets into office, only mass prosecutions will stand a chance of stopping these evil monsters. But DJT won’t do it because Ivanka would tsk, tsk, tsk him and Jared… well, you get it. The real problem, of course, is that Trump DOESN’T GET IT. No one can predict the outcome of this mess but it’s reasonable to predict that it will be horrific.

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    • jackrabbit October 20, 2023 at 10:35 am #

      The sky is falling, the sky is falling…

    • Jimmy Word October 20, 2023 at 10:38 am #

      Criminals prosecuting criminals? Don’t hold your breath, at least not until they waterboard you.

    • Paula D October 20, 2023 at 10:50 am #

      I was writing something similar as you were posting this, Buckeyeman.

      Check out this video that sums up the criminality of Clinton and Comey. Less than 2 min.

      .youtube.com/watch?v=WIARMMtUdZQ

      • jackrabbit October 20, 2023 at 11:45 am #

        It’s still early but y’all are hitting the C cubed trifecta! Clinton, Comey, Covid! Jarek and his KKK goons will be here soon. Yay!

        • JohnAZ October 20, 2023 at 12:04 pm #

          JHK

          You bumped Disaffected for trolling and yet you allow this &%$# to continue his BS? That makes no sense whatsoever.

          • jackrabbit October 20, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

            JHK
            You bumped Disaffected for trolling and yet you allow this &%$# (JohnAZ) to continue his BS? That makes no sense whatsoever.

            Fixed it for ya!

          • Qwibqwib October 20, 2023 at 9:55 pm #

            Maybe rabbit is JHK’s alter ego? Kind of like some spicy peppers the cook throws into the chili to make it more interesting?

    • Wizard of the Saddle October 20, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

      I don’t dispute most of what you are saying, but after the meat grinder the Dems have put Trump through and are continuing to intensify I strongly believe Trump would re-enter the White House with blood in his eye and TR’s “Big Stick” in his hand. Trump at least believes in REVENGE. Perhaps this will prove motivation enough.

      • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 12:46 pm #

        The Judicial Branch is gone over to the Enemy. He can’t make them do anything. He asked them to do their job and they told him he had no “standing”.

        Still waiting for a definition of “standing”.

        • elysianfield October 20, 2023 at 6:08 pm #

          n simple terms, courts use “standing” to ask, “Does this party have a ‘dog in this fight? ‘” Standing limits participation in lawsuits and asks whether the person(s) bringing a lawsuit, or defending one, has enough cause to “stand” before the court and advocate, since not anyone can go to court for any reason….google search

          • Jarek October 21, 2023 at 1:24 am #

            Trump didn’t have a dog in that fight? How did they figure that? Or did they just depend on nobody knowing what “standing” meant?

    • elysianfield October 20, 2023 at 2:38 pm #

      “2nd Amendment blah, blah, blah. I’m armed up more than 99.9 percent of you”

      Buckey,
      ….Uhhh, hold my beer….

    • cbeard October 20, 2023 at 3:31 pm #

      Presently, the best post on this site today. Trump’s narcissism is his biggest problem. I have an old friend who reminds me of Trump and his mannerisms. He has an IQ that is maybe a little above average, but the narcissism makes him sometimes seem to be a total idiot. The older he gets, the worse it becomes. Your take on the armed public is spot on. Lots of talk but no action. That said, we are headed for big troubles. If things really blow up, things will go downhill like a steamroller to hell. Especially with our open borders.

  16. BULLITT October 20, 2023 at 10:36 am #

    Jim,
    Great article today. It spells the issues that we face as citizens of the U.S.A.
    Harsh, bloody, and awful pretty much spells it out.
    I’m a Conservative, registered Republican in Pennsylvania. Sadly, my Senators are Step and Fetch It Casey, and John Fetterman.
    My local Federal representative Mike Kelly refuses to vote for Jim Jordan. In the first two rounds, He voted for Scalise and John Boehner. And to my surprise according to The Gateway Pundit, and The Liberty Daily, Mr. Kelly along with 13 of the 20 no-votes are involved in the FTX campaign donation scheme. Rep. Scalise was up to his ears in this deal also. Maybe that’s why he dropped out of the Speaker race!
    With Republicans like this, you don’t have a snowball’s chance in hell. Be prepared for the worst, it’s coming!
    Prepare for your family. God Bless America!

    • C.O.Jones October 20, 2023 at 12:07 pm #

      Hats off to our host for managing to work in the title of one of Blind Boy Fuller’s more famous songs – Step It Up and Go.

      I take it as advice for the republicans who cannot even figure out who is driving.

      • cbeard October 20, 2023 at 3:40 pm #

        Damn sure can’t stand pat today. Love country blues, especially the Piedmont variety.

        • cbeard October 20, 2023 at 3:42 pm #

          Recently acquired a Fraulini Erma model guitar.

      • Soul Forensics October 20, 2023 at 6:32 pm #

        A Blind Boy Fuller name check!

        Lightnin’ Hopkins also does a great rendition of that blues classic.

  17. tom clark October 20, 2023 at 10:37 am #

    Liz Cheney for President.

    • Jimmy Word October 20, 2023 at 10:39 am #

      Yeah, that’s sure to work.

      • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 10:44 am #

        Dear visitor: as you walk the grounds you will occasionally stumble upon trolls. We ask that you kindly refrain from feeding them as limiting their diet serves to keep their numbers in check.

        Thank you

        • Jimmy Word October 20, 2023 at 10:47 am #

          Got it.

    • tractorguy October 20, 2023 at 11:33 am #

      Oh GOD no 🙁

    • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 12:48 pm #

      Free Bill Cosby!
      They already did.
      Raise Bing Crosby!
      Ok.

      • hmuller October 21, 2023 at 11:19 am #

        Reunite Crosby, Stills, and Nash. Fuck Young.

        • Soul Forensics October 22, 2023 at 1:51 pm #

          Crosby’s pushing up daisies.

          • Soul Forensics October 22, 2023 at 1:52 pm #

            David, not Bing (though he is too).

  18. Paula D October 20, 2023 at 10:41 am #

    What is the difference between Cabinet officers and the FBI, that they can be impeached and the FBI can’t?

    I thought only the president could be impeached. But I agree that they all need to go.

    I would prefer them going to prison, rather than just being removed.
    But with Garland at the head, whaddaya going to do?

    • Beryl of Oyl October 20, 2023 at 11:48 am #

      The FBI agents are hired government employees. They can be fired, but because they have contracts, a process has to be gone through.

      Cabinet officers are political appointments. The president could remove one and appoint another if he chose to. Rather, he could nominate another but it might not be confirmed

      “Presidents enjoy broad discretion to fire cabinet secretaries and political appointees within the executive office. The president’s freedom to dismiss directors of administrative agencies, however, is usually subject to terms set by Congress.”

      https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/dictionaries-thesauruses-pictures-and-press-releases/removal-executive-power

      President Trump was blocked from filling cabinet positions by people like Mitch.

      • JohnAZ October 20, 2023 at 12:08 pm #

        Beryl

        The element of the Deep State that successfully blocked Trump’s attempts at draining the swamp had Elephants as their logo.

        Do not be surprised to find out that most of his opponents in these court cases are RINOs.

    • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 12:51 pm #

      Impeached just means censure now. Islander then chimed in saying that’s all it ever meant. Technically or linguistically she’s wrong, but it’s been so seldom used that she has a valid point. Use it or lose it.

      When the wolf appears, the dogs forget their squabbles and band together. They’re the dogs, we’re the wolf.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 20, 2023 at 1:35 pm #

        Impeachment as it applies to public office has always meant a process.

        If people thought it meant removal from office it was their own fault.

        Hillary told a roomful of people at her former school that Nixon was impeached,and nobody said anything.

        • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 2:14 pm #

          “A process”. A process of what? Did your estrogenized brain freeze out?

          A process of removal. It was so seldom used, that it has ceased to be a “thing”.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 20, 2023 at 2:42 pm #

            No a process of bringing charges against certain public officials.

            It did not have to result in removal. Ever.

            Unless you believe that charges are to be accepted as valid.

          • Paula D October 20, 2023 at 4:04 pm #

            Jarek doesn’t believe in trials.

            If someone is accused of something, they must be guilty.

            It is the same logic that jackrabbit, kbird and other shitlibs use about Trump.

            Get indicted, go to jail.

          • Jarek October 21, 2023 at 1:26 am #

            But you agree that it might result in removal? And in fact, should. Why would you allow a scumbag to stay in office to do more damage to the nation and people if you could remove them?

          • Paula D October 21, 2023 at 11:31 am #

            No, I do not agree. The Dems impeached Trump for asking Zelensky about the progress of the investigation of Burisma.

            They accused him of withholding weapons from the Kiev regime that they wanted to be used on killing the people of Donbass.

            He should have been acquitted, and he was.

            Why do you continue to insist he should have been thrown out of office?

            The second impeachment was even stupider, as if they were trying to outdo themselves.
            They impeached him for questioning the results of the election AND they did it after he was already out of office, making it moot.
            But they did it anyway. Are you arguing that he should have been convicted? Then what? The penalty is removal from office and he was ALREADY GONE!!
            I understand that Dems are too stupid to understand this, but you pride yourself on your brains.
            Why can’t you understand it?

          • Jarek October 21, 2023 at 1:19 pm #

            I never said Trump should have been impeached or thrown out of office. You are so twisted in your views – typical of women obsessed with politics.

            You need to make pies and quilts.

          • jackrabbit October 21, 2023 at 7:16 pm #

            Projection there Paula? How on earth you reach that conclusion is beyond absurd. Anytime I think you have potential, you completely destroy it w an idiotic comment.

          • Paula D October 21, 2023 at 7:38 pm #

            What conclusion? I reached many conclusions.

            If you don’t want to look idiotic, be specific.

  19. dale October 20, 2023 at 10:41 am #

    Incredibly well stated Jim. Thank you…

  20. woe October 20, 2023 at 10:43 am #

    I hope Jim Jordan and the MAGA’s hold out. Don’t concede on the house speaker, don’t give them shit. With what’s going on in the ME, along with Ukraine we got them by the short hairs, because their funding is being held up. They have been using chaos on the american people, this is a good opportunity to bring the chaos back to them. Keep congress dysfunctional to screw the globalist and the war mongers. It’s like some old beater going down the street on a flat and the rim is throwing sparks and the flat is smoking. Stop being nice, fuck the GOP establishment.

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    • JohnAZ October 20, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

      No, fuck the Deep State entirety.

    • Wizard of the Saddle October 20, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

      I’ve been preaching this same message all week. No speaker – no funding bills or CR’s. The Blob will die if its access to the federal feed trough is denied. Let the damn government default on the national debt. CANCEL their Goddamned credit card. The crash is coming anyway. Might as well get it over with and move on like we should have done in 2008.

      • cbeard October 20, 2023 at 11:11 pm #

        Yes, what he said.

    • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 8:03 pm #

      Too late. The House GOP dumped Jordan as their candidate. They now have four or five Establishment types fighting for the chance to go down in flames.

  21. bobfitz03 October 20, 2023 at 10:44 am #

    Jim is one of the only commentators who consistently reminds us – this thing cannot continue indefinitely. In fact, it is already coming apart at the seams.

    Ron Paul also tried to tell us. The system is unreal and unreality eventually collapses after it exhausts the scaffolding propping up the illusion. The only questions remaining are how hard is the fall and how badly are we bent? Paul was seeking a controlled demolition of sorts to remedy and reboot, not that anyone cared to listen.

    Are we just gonna sit here and watch the chaos unfold, or will anyone ever do anything to change direction? So far, we’re mostly spectators. Maybe picking through rumble is the only thing that registers.

    • Jimmy Word October 20, 2023 at 10:46 am #

      What do you suggest?

      • bobfitz03 October 20, 2023 at 1:24 pm #

        That is the $64T question.

        Banking, Lobbies, set the agenda. and Elections put the swamp creatures in place. The two-tier Judiciary protects and punishes the pieces on the board.

        Ending the Fed, campaign finance, and election integrity and law fare reforms are good places to start.

        I honestly don’t know how local grassroots organizations are formed and make actual impact. But, de-centralized local actions can overwhelm and replace the corrupt system.

        • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 8:06 pm #

          A Lawfare lawyer was on Glenn Beck Thursday to say their big goal is to protect Jews from Palestinians. What in the literal fuck?

    • Groundhog October 20, 2023 at 11:52 am #

      “This thing” will continue until the US dollar fails completely in its role as the medium of exchange in international trade. After *all* of the rest of the world requires that US dollars be converted into something else first before any trading occurs – well – that will have the same effect as a naval blockade having been put in place by those foreign powers. Either way, imported goods stop arriving and the populations here in the West will be required to live on what we have and not on what we can borrow or swindle.

      A return to living within our means will result in this nation going back to the very same living conditions I saw everywhere here in rural and even suburban Appalachia. In my Southern hillbilly town in the 60’s we had some rather large communities of people living just outside city limits. Many of these small three room homes were unpainted, had no indoor plumbing, and were heated with small coal stoves. In winter you could smell the coal smoke in the air and the soot would settle down on top of the snow and become visible. A few of the homes would be fenced in and feature yards covered everywhere with a dozen or two old rusty 50 gallon drums stood upside down and spaced evenly about in the yard. Openings are cut out for the chained up fighting roosters making these drums their home. Each rooster is tethered to a drum. Otherwise the game roosters would all fight each other.

      At a farm once I used to amuse myself by fooling the game roosters that were running wild all over the place. It started with two mating pairs of the types of chickens used for cock fighting, and those two pairs produced a flock of at least 100 chickens that were stuffing themselves on spilled cattle food and fly maggots. I’d set up a mirror and the game roosters would fight their mirror images. People might claim that rooster fighting is cruel, but if you let them live and run around on their own they’ll fight each other anyway. That’s the reptilian brain at work, it’s what reptiles do, and chickens are basically just reptiles with feathers.

      What’s happening now is a bunch of fightin’ roosters are seeing their own reflections in the big mirror the Blob has set up for us in the Middle East. We’ll fight and flap against an invisible pane of glass until our bloodybeaks break, the glass is cracked, and we’re done. The result will be no gasoline and no food for the USA and an extremely painful transition to a new living arrangement for the USA emerges. It will be a lifesyle lacking in all the things we once thought of as being non-negotiable and mandatory. When the public sewage treatment plants fail and electricity becomes unreliable it’s gonna be back to shitting in an outhouse. It will be a time when hot water for bathing and washing clothes comes from a coal/wood fired cauldron in the back yard.
      Food will be grown at home and some back yards will have hogs as well as chickens.

      Many Americans will be too soft and weak to make that transition back to the 60’s, and they’ll transition instead to the happy hunting grounds. Anyone more interested in this lifestyle read the first chapters of Dolly Parton’s autobiography. She describes early to mid 60’s poor Appalachain mountain life *very* well. Her old family home is now a sort of museum. Nobody lives that way around here at the moment.

      But before long, DollyWood will be boarded up, closed, and bankrupt. I doubt if Dolly would or could make it back to her old way of life.

      • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 8:13 pm #

        Like millions of other Americans, I’ll be dead from medical issues once this comes to pass. Hell, I’m surprised the Chinese drugs I have to take havent already killed me.

        • Groundhog October 21, 2023 at 12:52 pm #

          Uncle:

          Don’t count yourself out so quickly. There are many medical issues that can be treated by diet changes, herbal preparations etc. There are naturopath physicians out there and other healers like chiropractors that can work seeming miracles without the use of any prescribed drugs. I’ve experienced this myself. That being said, I’ve also had a few conditions that could only have been fixed by surgery – otherwise I’d not be here typing. There might be a chance you don’t *have* to take those pills.

    • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 12:54 pm #

      The Elite are using the Cloward-Piven strategy to collapse the system, both through spending and mass illegal immigration. Once the dollar fails, they’ll put another system in place. No one will starve except those who refuse the chip. Your chip will only stay activated if you keep up with Vax schedule.

      • malthuss October 20, 2023 at 1:32 pm #

        or the powerful will kill off people, whites at the front of the line.

        jim jones n the kool aid.

      • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 1:45 pm #

        All the ingredients are being stirred in.
        Inflation, high interest rates, exorbitant pricing.
        All the excess was bought up by the monopolistic hedge/asset funds.

        Who can afford to buy a home now?
        They can.
        You can rent it.

        Same with vehicles.
        The UAW is most unwittingly ensuring a restructuring of the model.
        You will rent or time-share a POV as well.

        It does not end there.
        Reduced policing, reduced punishment, eliminated punitive confinement.
        Eliminated safety and security.
        For the average people.
        The elite have always been segregated from this element.
        Their homes. Their schools. Their neighborhoods.

        The monied elite are creating conditions for societal collapse so that one not only welcomes any escape from the chaos, they beg for it.
        And all its conditions.
        All its restrictions.
        For your good, and of course CO2’s.
        Feudalism for a greener world.

      • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 8:16 pm #

        Something like that, the Mark of the Beast if you will.

      • Groundhog October 21, 2023 at 9:28 am #

        “No one will starve except those who refuse the chip.”

        If for whatever reason the 18 wheelers stop delivering food to stores – or if the farmers find farming unprofitable or even impossible due to supply chain breakdowns – then Jarek will most certainly starve. Whether one has a chip or not will be irrelevant if food simply isn’t available at some point in the future. Any one of hundreds of different reasons could ruin the entire USA food supply. Then what?

        • Jarek October 21, 2023 at 1:21 pm #

          Freedom’s just another word for starving to death. Imagine being free of this bone cage or tomb as the Platonics put it.

  22. gustafson.robert.22 October 20, 2023 at 10:48 am #

    Down with the blob.

    JHK often gets criticized here for over-optimism in the political sphere, but if a latent awareness of justice in a good chunk of the public were aroused somemehow, and a renewed curiosity in the specific workings in DC, the landscape could shift quickly and pretty dramatically, out of nowhere, as it were. Or not.

  23. Hockeyguy October 20, 2023 at 10:49 am #

    At this point, I’m almost amused by the entire spectacle as I watch to see how many more proverbial 50 pound bricks of shit that the elite try to stuff into the already-overflowing 10-pound bag before something major gives. It’s absolutely mind-blowing that with the sheer volume of mentally unstable people on psychotropic drugs with access to guns and who have been subjected to endless gaslighting mind-fuckery, that we aren’t already slaughtering each other in the streets and having shootouts in suburban backyards. I suppose the fact that the average male is fat and sedentary and has been rendered low-T by garbage processed food and chemical endocrine disruptors has been a saving grace of sorts.

  24. docmartin October 20, 2023 at 10:49 am #

    Ain’t nobody be gettin impeached. If we can slow down the collapse to manageable levels is the most I hope for. Why does Mr Kunstler still think the bad guys will have a price to pay? What comic book world of justice is he reading? Crime does pay if you’re protected by the powers that be. I have no idea why a man of Mr Kunstler’s age has yet to accept the facts of life.

    • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 8:23 pm #

      Maybe he figures that there is a final judgment for everyone who has ever lived, even for scumbags with fancy titles. Not that many modern Americans understand the concept.

  25. Opie October 20, 2023 at 10:53 am #

    Jim, last night an old friend and I were enjoying a good Cuban cigar and some mighty fine single malt scotch ( Dalwhinnie I believe) and turned on the tv to catch the Prez’s speech. Holy shit, one of the most bizarre and surreal thing either one of us has witnessed. I suppose there was no reason to write about it as a weekly blog would too short to cover it in all it’s nuances. I guess one thing we came away with is the US is numero uno in making bombs. Just too much, was expecting to see some bright flashes at any moment.

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    • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 11:03 am #

      Nothing better than a Cuban puro.
      You are correct, the US is #1 in making bombs. Including cigar flavor-bombs.

      How many “new world” brands are there? How many schmucks create a brand, formulate a blend, and release a “flavor bomb” on the market? Too many to count. Fillers from Nicaragua, DR, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Mexico, Peru, etc. Every swinging d-bag has a cigar brand in ‘murica.
      Yet Cuba keeps humming along.

      The American palate must be bombed! It cannot handle smoothness, intricate complexities, nuanced variation. It needs constant transitions and assualts on the senses.

      How many of the new-world cigar bros “enjoy” their “sticks” with American IPA’s? IBU’s up the wazoo, ABV at +7%?
      Boom! Boom! Boom!
      Sensory explosions.

      It is a phenomenon of the culture.
      Loss of refinement.
      Unapreciative of quality.
      Salt, sugar, spice (heat).
      Dial it up!
      Bomb me

      • Groundhog October 20, 2023 at 12:39 pm #

        @ 100th – Your post reads almost like the lyrics to a Dylan song. It’s so obtuse it can interpreted in more than one way. I couldn’t help but think of exploding cigars while trying to figure out just wth you just posted. I can remember seeing cartoon people on tv in the 50’s having cigars blowing up in their faces. We watched cartoons sometimes on Saturday mornings in the 50’s on the old black and white tv sets. If you turned these sets on too early in the morning all you’d see would be a test pattern. At night the b&w tv sets would sign out for bedtime with the star spangled banner being played, some jets-flying-overhead video, or maybe a preacher showing up for some Bible verses and a good nite prayer.

        A well-to-do very distant ancient relative once had a prank cigar go Boom! in his face. This happened well over a century ago when this dangerous prank was more common than it is today. What made this incident so funny was where the prank cigar blew up on the poor guy and what it was packed with. He was dining in a very exclusive restaurant and had his best clothing on. He thought he was going to enjoy a good cigar after a great meal. Instead Boom! The end of the cigar had also been packed with soot and this fancy fellow had soot all over his face as well as all over the fancy tablecloth. After the bang all conversation in the restaurant stopped for a minute or two. Then laughter as the victim laughed along with his table. Soon everyone in that area of the restaurant figured out the noise had been an exploding cigar. The victim had it coming because he himself was a known prankster and somebody was getting even with him.

        Today you are risking getting arrested if you manufacture or sell exploding cigars.

        • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 12:50 pm #

          I rember when they still sold the short-fused tiny firecrackers that were made explicitly for this purpose. Bury it in your favorite victim’s stogie.

          • BackRowHeckler October 20, 2023 at 1:35 pm #

            What we did to our shipmate from Kentucky is put one of those charges into the end of his cigar. It would explode and we’d get a good laugh out of it. Then he’d take his jackknife and cut off the exploded part, relight the cigar, and begin to puff away; little did he know we had placed another charge into the short end of that cigar,

            I laugh just thinking about it.

        • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 12:58 pm #

          Today it would be packed with an M-80 and the person would lose most of their face.

  26. Bill of Rights October 20, 2023 at 10:59 am #

    Impeachments

    I hope the House impeachments include a healthy dose of “conspiracy to defraud the people” charges.

    After all, the justice department depends on the conspiracy charge in most of their attacks on the opposition. Now they can get a taste of their own medicine. We’ll all see what a real conspiracy looks like as carried out by the CDC et. al.

    The media also disparages other opinions as “unfounded crazy right-wing conspiracy theories” out of hand, but when the government uses conspiracy charges against the people, the media never notices. Why is that?

  27. Beryl of Oyl October 20, 2023 at 11:01 am #

    The White House is asking for “emergency” aid.

    More for Ukraine than for Israel.

    Then they want aid for Gaza. Yes, they want to help the people they are going to bomb.

    They have also tied the money for Israel to a much smaller amount for our own border.

    • OG October 20, 2023 at 11:58 am #

      Hamas did their part. They earned their $100mm. A deal’s a deal.

    • Jimmy Word October 20, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

      Then they want aid for Gaza. Yes, they want to help the people they are going to bomb.

      The irony was not lost on me either. The “emergency aid” needs to go to treating Joe Biden’s brain.

    • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 1:01 pm #

      Don’t forget the field trips. Israeli children would be taken to military bases to write grafitti on bombs and missiles.

      And of course Muslim children are taught to hate as well.

  28. cedricward October 20, 2023 at 11:04 am #

    Mr. Kunstler,

    I’m surprised, even shocked, to see at least three
    grammatical errors in this article.

    Missing ‘to’s where they should be
    and one ‘to’ where it does not belong.

    I know it’s easy to make mistakes
    when writing long articles and books
    and it’s easy to miss things while
    proofreading before publishing.

    I recommend using the FREE version
    of GRAMMARLY.

    It catches EVERYTHING, extra spacing,
    missing commas, and especially mis-spelling.

    It even suggests better grammatical sentence
    construction.

    I LOVE your writings and am always impressed
    by your use of words not in common usage.

    • badberries October 20, 2023 at 11:10 am #

      I concur. I’d comment further but I suk at writing. (and obviously spelling).

    • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 12:25 pm #

      Nothing is free Cedric.

      His words would be absorbed by the program.
      Its words are not his words.

      • cedricward October 20, 2023 at 11:36 pm #

        @100th Avatar

        I have no idea what you are talking about.
        Please respond more specifically.

        • 100th Avatar October 21, 2023 at 9:43 am #

          That’s a you problem

    • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 1:02 pm #

      Does it have an agenda? How many could catch the subtle change in tone or meaning?

      • cedricward October 20, 2023 at 11:44 pm #

        @jarek

        Grammarly doesn’t have ‘an agenda’.
        It merely shows you where you have misspelled
        a word or left out a comma. Simple things like that.
        It does not claim to show your ‘tone.’
        That can only be done by hearing and seeing the person
        saying what is being communicated.
        It does, however, point out when the words being used can be construed to be critical or hostile and other emotions that we all can construe to convey fairly universal meanings.

    • elysianfield October 20, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

      “I recommend using the FREE version
      of GRAMMARLY.”

      Cedrick,
      Rely on Q’s imperfect attempts. Q is just another human that AI is trying to put out of work….

      • Night Owl October 20, 2023 at 4:14 pm #

        Programs like Grammarly are terrible, too.

        A good editor is handy, but Q is terrible editor.

        • Anthea October 21, 2023 at 8:04 pm #

          In many cases, it’s difficult to edit someone’s writing, because you can’t figure out what the hell they’re trying to say.

          I think I tried Grammarly once, and the only thing I remember about it is that it thinks any sentence with more than about ten words in it is a run-on sentence. If you read the classics, you will often notice that the author’s sentences take up about a half a page of small print. People used to be able to write sentences like that without getting lost, and people also used to be able to read them without getting lost.

      • Soul Forensics October 20, 2023 at 8:57 pm #

        It’s like GPS, or even calculators.

        People rely on these things so much that many can no longer add 8 + 17 or find the pool hall half a mile away without a tech gadget.

        • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 4:16 am #

          GPS–definitely. Also cameras. I have a backup cam in my current car and I despise it. If one allows it, one is trained to simply stop looking out the fucking window when reversing.

          • megabeth October 21, 2023 at 9:48 am #

            I think those screens are silly, too, although I must admit that recent cars are built with little slots for windows and huge blind spots.

          • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 2:49 pm #

            Good point, beth.

      • cedricward October 20, 2023 at 11:46 pm #

        @elysianfield

        I have no idea what you are talking about
        regarding Q and AI.+

        And it’s CEDRIC with no K

        • cedricward October 20, 2023 at 11:48 pm #

          Disregard the ‘+’
          after AI
          It was an accidental keystroke
          because I didn’t proofread before posting.

          • Jarek October 21, 2023 at 1:28 am #

            You tried to do it yourself. Let that be a lesson to you. You need Grammarly!

          • 100th Avatar October 21, 2023 at 8:19 pm #

            Cedrik is definitely artificial intelligence

      • Anthea October 21, 2023 at 8:27 pm #

        Here’s something that could help people write better. There are only 5 basic sentence patterns in English:

        1. Subject + Linking Verb + Complement ( S – LV – C)
        Example: He is a baker. She is slim. (The complement either renames or describes the subject, so it can be either a noun or an adjective.)
        2. Subject + Intransitive Verb ( S – IV )
        Example: The book fell.
        3. Subject + Transitive Verb + Direct Object ( S – TV – DO )
        Example: The batter hit the ball.
        4. Subject + Transitive Verb + Indirect Object + Direct Object ( S – TV – IO – DO )
        Mary lent Josh money.
        5. Subject + Transitive Verb + Direct Object + Object Complement ( S – TV – DO – OC)
        They painted the house blue. They called the boy a hero. (The object complement either describes or renames the direct object and can be either a noun or an adjective.)

        That’s it. Only five. Everything else is modifiers. This is basic linguistics. Noam Chomsky got famous for figuring this out.

        • Jarek October 22, 2023 at 1:40 pm #

          Potatoes I have none.

          • Night Owl October 23, 2023 at 4:59 am #

            Punctuation, too.

  29. Mister Roboto October 20, 2023 at 11:07 am #

    I can actually imagine a situation where the military would feel compelled to step in and take over the actual running of the country. Of course, that would be the effective end of the republic, but true republics almost always have such short shelf-lives in terms of history, don’t they?

    • NickelthroweR October 20, 2023 at 11:26 am #

      In the past, military leadership was a stepping stone to political office and I, frankly, have no problem with it.

      As a US Army Officer, I was more of a Sanitation Engineer that had to study law. I mean, the first time you have to take 1100 people out into the woods and keep them fed and in good health is when you deeply understand how precious and fragile civil society really is.

      Also, because the US is a signatory of the Geneva Conventions, we spent a lot of time studying law. Lots of Rules of Engagement kind of stuff.

      People with that background will make much better rulers (notice that I didn’t say leaders) than the pedo crowd currently in DC.

    • OG October 20, 2023 at 11:53 am #

      Are you familiar with the work of Michael Jaco, Juan O Savin, SG Anon, Derek Johnson, et al? They claim that the US Military is in charge right now, that the blob is about to be meted some serious justice and that Americans will have their country back.

      They claim that the USA Inc. is bankrupt and that NESARA/GESARA will soon provide us with real, gold-backed money (like in the good old days).

      On the other hand, most have never even heard of “Q,” while many others dismiss it and call it “Hopium.”

  30. badberries October 20, 2023 at 11:07 am #

    “How is it possible that the majority of doctors still don’t know that the Covid vaccines are unsafe and ineffective”?

    Upton Sinclair said it best:
    “It’s difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on him not understanding it”.

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    • JohnAZ October 20, 2023 at 12:18 pm #

      The hematologist my daughter goes to has declared to her that her autoimmune problems were caused by the shot or the virus or both.

      Hope?

      Wouldn’t it be a hoot if the immune decline or aggravant came from getting the shot and then getting the disease from a crippled immune system?

      • JohnAZ October 20, 2023 at 12:20 pm #

        BTW, my PCP has signed up to my vertigo of the last year being a result of getting the disease last November, unfortunately also following the shot.

      • malthuss October 20, 2023 at 6:38 pm #

        Yesterday someone told me he had long covid. and it caused
        autoimmune problems.

        –or was it the vax?

      • cbeard October 21, 2023 at 2:49 pm #

        My daughter is a nurse. She took the clot shot to keep her job. So far, she is well, but she should have called their bluff and not taken the jab. I have taken no vaccine and never had covid. My daughter and vaccinated son in law have both had mild cases.

    • megabeth October 20, 2023 at 2:06 pm #

      Robert Heinlein worked with Sinclair and his collectivist E.P.I.C. campaign in the 1930s. He was flabbergasted that Sinclair was unable to do arithmetic calculations in his head.

      That is surprising, when you find someone who can’t do that.

      Or maybe it’s not, anymore.

      • Jarek October 21, 2023 at 1:30 am #

        Lazarus Long went back in time to have sex with his mother. Bob had some weird ideas. Even weirder than time travel in order to have sex with your own mother: Abolishing the border with Mexico.

        • badberries October 21, 2023 at 9:47 am #

          Jarek, goddam old son! I just finished reading the many lives of Lazarus Long.
          “May you live as long as you wish, may you love as long as you live”.

          He listed some things he knows are “sins”, one of which stuck; “causing unnecessary harm to another”. (I’d add my own; “wasting food in a starving world”.)

          Very insightful piece of prose. There’s more wisdom in the first 40 pages than I’ve encountered in my whole life.

          • Jarek October 21, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

            Small change can often be found under seat cushions.

            Never leave your house unarmed.

        • megabeth October 21, 2023 at 9:55 am #

          The scenario I liked was in “Friday” (1982), which was a very balkanized former US in which there existed a form of internet, in which World War III was just two divisions of Coca-Cola getting at each other by nuking various cities.

  31. Paula D October 20, 2023 at 11:22 am #

    A recent Organic Consumers seminar brought people from around the world together to talk about regenerative agriculture.

    If anyone is interested, the videos are here…..

    ://regenerationinternational.org/peoples-food-summit?utm_medium=email&utm_source=engagingnetworks&utm_campaign=OCA+PFS+Follow+Up+Fundraiser+-PM&utm_content=OCA+PFS+Follow+Up+Fundraiser+-PM

    • Night Owl October 20, 2023 at 4:45 pm #

      Sounds like something a Cornucopian would like.

      Paula turning the corner?

      LOL.

  32. The Inmate October 20, 2023 at 11:32 am #

    Waiting for the Republicans in congress to do something is like waiting on hold for tech support for three hours until you get disconnected. These useful idiots are not our friends.

    • JohnAZ October 20, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

      The alternative is the Dems ready to inflate the hell out of the country with its incessant spending. BTW, I notice that the GOP has quelled the domestic spending, so now we will spend $100 billion on foreign wars. It never stops!!!!!

  33. stelmosfire October 20, 2023 at 11:39 am #

    Quote from Potatoheads speech last night,

    ” I boarded a train, with blacked out windows for a 10-hour ride each way to Kyiv to stand with the people of Ukraine ahead of the one-year anniversary of their brave fight against Putin. I’m told I was the first American to enter a war zone not controlled by the United States military since President Lincoln. I walked through Kyiv with President Zelensky, with air raid sirens sounding in the distance.

    Say what you will about Biden but he is one brave and tough sumbitch. He’s also a truck driver,college professor and street brawler, so there.

    • Beryl of Oyl October 20, 2023 at 11:55 am #

      Yes I remember they turned the sirens on especially for the occasion.

      God I miss these days- hopium is a wonderful drug:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7dLPEK2ANc

      • OG October 20, 2023 at 12:18 pm #

        Aaaah! That was a good huff. Thanks!

    • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

      cured Cancer too

    • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 1:18 pm #

      They should have found the elderly Corn Pop and staged a steel cage match between these two ancient worthies. Live. Not pay per view but free. True Democratic viewing.

    • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 1:49 pm #

      survivor of a 3-alarm kitchen fire

    • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 1:55 pm #

      We can safely replace Chuck Norris as the subject of the Chuck Norris jokes with Biden.

      Biden visited the Virgin Islands. Now they’re just called The Islands.

      When god said, ‘let there be light’ Biden said, ‘say please’.

      Joe Biden can speak Braille

      • megabeth October 20, 2023 at 2:13 pm #

        Joe Biden doesn’t need a modem, either; he just picks up a telephone and hisses ASCII into it. So there.

    • elysianfield October 20, 2023 at 2:47 pm #

      Saint,
      And further, it is rumored that he has an enormous Schvanstucker….

    • Paula D October 20, 2023 at 4:10 pm #

      I’m pretty sure that air raid sirens mean “Take cover”. But Joe just kept walking?

      Shades of 9-11, when the Secret Service let Bush sit on, happy to relive his kindergarten days, instead of whisking him away, as protocol demands.

      It’s almost as if they knew that those air raid sirens were part of the act.

      • Paula D October 20, 2023 at 4:11 pm #

        Also, Kiev was not a war zone. They have been pretty much untouched by Russia, then and now.

    • badberries October 21, 2023 at 9:50 am #

      stelmosfire, don’t forget “ballroom dancer and friend to the working girl”.

  34. OG October 20, 2023 at 11:40 am #

    Wow! You cranked that one right out of the ballpark, Mr K! 510 feet – well over and beyond the left field bleachers!

    “a weird cabal alien to our heritage”

    Exactly.

    And then you name names: Merrick Garland, Alejandro Mayorkas, Xavier Becerra. Christopher Wray and Lisa Monaco.

    “I’m in favor of wholesale impeachment of these top people ”

    Yeah, what he said!

    ***
    These two questions, though:

    “Or sussing out the October 7 Hamas massacre in Israel? Do they have no assets in Gaza?”

    The fifteen (15) fence breaches for terrorists on motor bikes while paragliders slowly landed in massive bunches gently falling from the sky was not an intelligence failure. It was an intelligence success. Clearly.

  35. oilie October 20, 2023 at 11:43 am #

    While there may be a few principled Republicans in Washington, they are still led by an RNC that is so stupid that it picks NBC to conduct a presidential debate. And this after the flap over a moderator reading DNC talking points in the last one. Expecting anything out of the Repubs is a fool’s dream.

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    • Wizard of the Saddle October 20, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

      Do the words “Controlled Opposition” ring any bells?

  36. WadeWaters October 20, 2023 at 11:57 am #

    What’s truly baffling about the present time is just how uncommon

    common sense is

  37. Beryl of Oyl October 20, 2023 at 11:59 am #

    Anybody else notice Zelensky talking about a peace plan?

    They’re allowing him to do this now, evidently.

  38. Nigel Tufnel October 20, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

    All of congress, both houses, are in on the grift – with the exception of just a few.

    The only solution I can think of right now is to just appoint our representatives by means of a lottery. Voting out of ignorance is better than voting out of sheer psychopathic greed. One term only.

    Or maybe let’s just do away with representative government and find a way for the general population to securely vote on every bill that comes up – keeping it simple with No amendments or riders. Remember that sending reps to vote our will was instated when travel was long and difficult – by horse.

    • WadeWaters October 20, 2023 at 1:17 pm #

      We’d all be better off with a benevolent monarchy.

      Like the Sung and Tang dynasties.

      • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 8:48 pm #

        What? Not the Hohenzollerns, Hapsburgs or “Windsors”?

  39. neurodoc October 20, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

    “How is possible that the majority of doctors still don’t know that Covid vaccines are unsafe and ineffective, and that they have been systematically lied to by the CDC from the get-go on this?”

    Medical school is many things but mainly the following two characteristics: a very rigorous all consuming 2 years curriculum in graduate level basic sciences followed by 2 years of physically and mentally exhausting heavily supervised clinical training in the basic areas of medical practice (somewhat akin to a long boot camp that tears you down to rebuild you into something different).

    It is also a totalitarian structured system, not unlike the military, wherein one takes orders from above and gives order to below. It is also a system that has NO TOLERANCE for dissention or questioning (I learned that the hard way by being PhD neuroscientist prior to entering med school; I had to learn to keep my mouth shut and not push on answers to questions; AND to take orders, regardless of their stupidity, from sniveling interns).

    Thus most physicians in training learn to respect and obey authority above them and to not question that authority, IN ORDER TO STAY IN AND GRADUATE FROM medical school. And then the same process starts again for the next 4-5 years in residency training in your specialty.

    It is very hard to unlearn the above referenced tendency to trust in and obey authority. Even to the point of continuing to very stupidly believe in the ‘safe and effective’ nonsense, despite massive scientific evidence to the contrary. Then there’s the $ issue…

    • Beryl of Oyl October 20, 2023 at 12:24 pm #

      I think some of it has to do with doctors being very busy people.

      If they have time to sit and read the paper, or watch the news, they see wonderful reports about the wonderful vaccine.

      Then they go back to work.

      Medical school sounds like the covid debacle, where somehow people at the very lowest levels were handed unfounded authority over others, and that brings out the worst in mediocre people.

    • Wizard of the Saddle October 20, 2023 at 12:25 pm #

      That explanation makes a lot of sense.

    • pranah October 20, 2023 at 12:54 pm #

      Well said, neurodoc. Gave me flashbacks just reading your description of the horrorshow that is medical education. I believe part of the reason doctors refuse to wake up to the truth about the vaxxx is that as a group physicians don’t want to admit that they have hurt/killed anyone, and tend to have strong defenses against such.

      • neurodoc October 20, 2023 at 1:06 pm #

        Pranah; You’re correct. Med school builds into all some very potent neurotic defense mechanisms, unfortunately hard to break. Retirement, Semi retirement or independent practice helps the breaking.

      • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 1:21 pm #

        The God complex. They served the Gods as slaves and now they are Gods too. Who has the right to question them? Who has standing? They paid a lot of money for this!

    • WadeWaters October 20, 2023 at 1:27 pm #

      My niece is currently in medical school. I got her to hear a talk by

      Michael Yeadon on Covid. The information alarmed her and there was

      not a little cognitive dissonance with what she was being fed at school.

      But I’ve heard nothing for some time. She memory holed it and moved

      on.

    • Mac October 20, 2023 at 1:47 pm #

      With the modern 80 hour max work week rule for medical residents, it isn’t as difficult as it used to be. The real difference now is that doctors work for someone else rather than for themselves.

    • malthuss October 20, 2023 at 6:40 pm #

      USA imports indian MDs.

    • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 8:54 pm #

      Sounds oddly Prussian. Serious question, did this training regimen come from the mind of Friederich der Gross?

    • ThorsHammer October 21, 2023 at 9:07 pm #

      neurodoc

      There is a very efficient way to quickly re-educate the MD class.
      Bring every doctor who participated in the criminal malpractice of injecting minor children with an untested and fraudulently promoted mRNA genetic alteration experiment before a court empowered to enforce the Nuremberg Accords. Minor children are by definition incapable of giving informed consent for experimentation upon their bodies. Whether those experiments benefited the children is beside the point. Children are not suitable subjects for medical experimentation, no more than they are suitable for targeting by bombs.

      Tens of thousands of guilty MD’s hung by the neck in public squares would have a very convincing deterrence upon their fellow doctors who ignore the responsibilities of their chosen profession and parrot what they “learned” in medical school or from their friendly Pfizer drug salesman without engaging their moral, ethical, and professional mental capacities.

  40. RD3 October 20, 2023 at 12:33 pm #

    Jimmy Carter already tried to peacefully remove the Deep State. What happened was that they became incensed, cooked up the hostage crisis, and then took over the presidency and installed the Bush family for 20 years. There is no constitutional way to remove these people. They are never going to say “aw shucks, I guess they don’t want us any more. We’ll just get on with our life’s work.” Its going to take much stronger medicine than that.

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    • OG October 20, 2023 at 12:57 pm #

      There will be executions and it will be constitutional.

      • RD3 October 20, 2023 at 1:15 pm #

        Hopefully. I didn’t articulate it correctly, but what I meant is that there is no procedural way to remove them.

      • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 1:24 pm #

        They won’t have standing any more?

      • jackrabbit October 20, 2023 at 1:38 pm #

        No, there will be no executions except in your fevered imagination.

        • RD3 October 20, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

          It was pretty fevered behind the dumpster last night. Trump emerged with his member in one hand and Big Mac in the other. Spray tan and special sauce.

          • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 1:58 pm #

            Spray tan and special sauce is going to haunt SeaDolt for life.

          • jackrabbit October 20, 2023 at 3:34 pm #

            How would you know RD?

          • RD3 October 22, 2023 at 12:40 pm #

            Trump livestreamed it. It was a $3 donation. It brought in over $20 for the campaign.

        • Night Owl October 20, 2023 at 4:16 pm #

          Are you worried about the Manchurian Candidate again, Jackoff?

          Russo-Nazi sleeper cells still lying in wait?

    • neurodoc October 20, 2023 at 12:57 pm #

      RD3; You’re exactly right. They will never give up their position and its goodies and perks willingly. Someone once said, ‘when the ballot box fails, try the jury box; when the jury box fails, it’s time for the cartridge box.’ Perhaps we now know what that means.

  41. BackRowHeckler October 20, 2023 at 12:36 pm #

    The Ukrainian ‘Spring Counteroffensive’ has apparently ended, bogged down in the autumnal mud of the Steppe. By all accounts it was a miserable failure that resulted in the deaths of many thousands of Ukrainian soldiers and much field equipment. Not to worry tho, President Biden is asking Congress for another $100 billion in aid for Ukraine, just $100 billion more to ensure Victory.

    • Jimmy Word October 20, 2023 at 12:39 pm #

      Walking around money.

    • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 1:27 pm #

      That’s why pagan Lithuania last so long perhaps. The Prussian Knights only had a few weeks a year to attack them. Lots of mud in the spring too.

      • BackRowHeckler October 20, 2023 at 1:41 pm #

        Lithuania was quite a powerhouse at one time. Yes they battled Tuetonic Knights but they also followed the Cross as Crusaders with a mission to liberate the Holy Land.

        • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 2:11 pm #

          Unlike most others, they converted by choice. They were feeling isolated perhaps, surrounded by Christians. Perhaps the King asked his holy men if the new religion was a true one. Being told it was, He saw the way forward.

          Lithuanian is said to be close to Sanskrit. These people may well be related to those who conquered old India.

          • BackRowHeckler October 20, 2023 at 3:49 pm #

            Conquered old India … and along with Knights Templar, Teutonic Knights & Hungarian Cavalry, defeated Kublai Khan’s Mongol Hordes and preventing them from overrunning Europe … at the Battle of Blue Waters in Ukraine.

          • Soul Forensics October 20, 2023 at 11:54 pm #

            Lithuania, Finland, Mongolia, Hungary. A lot of proto-linguistic similarities.

          • Anthea October 22, 2023 at 9:11 am #

            Almost all Western languages, along with those of the Middle East and India, have their origins in the Indo-European language, many thousands of years ago.

    • ThorsHammer October 21, 2023 at 9:29 pm #

      Let’s not mince words. The spring offensive was ramrodded up the ass of the Ukrainian military against their better judgment. Knowing that it would fail, they had no choice but to proceed anyway. The OBiden administration needed something they could fabricate into a “victory” to keep the military contracts flowing and Diaper Joe’s 10% on target so they could keep him medically functional until all the mail- in ballots were collected for the next election.

  42. J.Gan. October 20, 2023 at 12:48 pm #

    The idea of defunding the FBI is a great one to make the swamp-blob people leave. But, it will not be enough as every single 3 letter .gov agency is now criminally captured. The entire federal, state and local election systems, also criminally captured – just review the 2020 and 2022 elections, it does not take much digging to fund loads of evidence for fraud and vote rigging. So in order to defund all of this corruption, the USD must be tanked. Once it is tanked by hyperinflation, money paid will no longer buy the bribes to to stay silent about exactly how criminally captured our entire governance system has become. Once our money does not spend anymore, then people will scream for money backed by gold and silver instead of mountains of debt. Once we see the “federal reserve” go bust due to their own doings, we will be close. It would be nice if that was accompanied by military arrest of the entire Joebama criminal gang too.

    • neurodoc October 20, 2023 at 1:03 pm #

      The US$ is being tanked as we speak. This is evidenced by the shortages in imported items such as medications (massive shortages right now that we see daily in my clinic; pcp colleagues are telling me about shortages in commonly used antibiotics) and car and machine parts from china. Recall that at their last meeting BRICS+ agreed to NOT use the US$ anymore, and it appears to be happening. Of course, the delusional (with linear reality delusional disorder) will not believe this until they are unable to drive their cars and are starving (or having strokes and MIs from lack of their meds).

      • OG October 20, 2023 at 2:26 pm #

        Gold got as high as $1997.60 this morning. It has since retraced most of it gains and is at $1979 right now.

        Gold, of course, is highly manipulated by the R0thschilds. If gold were not manipulated with their unlimited supply of phoney fiat, it could/would/should be over $10,000. Way over.

        • Night Owl October 20, 2023 at 4:17 pm #

          You can’t do shit with gold anyways, Hogger of Canadeu.

          Especially in the amounts you could afford.

          • OG October 20, 2023 at 6:23 pm #

            Why with the ad homs all the time, little girl?

            1) I share my thoughts on the price of gold for the benefit of those CFNers who may want to get in on a five-bagger. That is a noble thing, not something to be ridiculed. D’uh.

            2) A five-bagger is a rare and wonderful thing in any denomination. D’uh.

            3) Me and my financial situation is completely irrelevant to the price of gold. D’uh.

            4) Gold has funded just about everything ever. Duh.

            FYI – It is bad form to ridicule the poor for not having resources as not having resources is the very thing that defines the poor.

          • Night Owl October 20, 2023 at 6:25 pm #

            Why would I do anything but ad-hom you Hogger?

          • OG October 20, 2023 at 6:32 pm #

            I don’t know. I guess that I keep expecting you to hit puberty. My bad.

          • Night Owl October 20, 2023 at 6:38 pm #

            But you said yourself that JHK has you on a “short leash” after your multiple bannings.

            Yet I have never been banned.

            How can this be?

          • OG October 20, 2023 at 6:46 pm #

            Uh … because you are mashed potatoes, Spuds nada. That is well-established, little girl. It’s nothing to be proud of. Truly.

          • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 3:56 am #

            A senseless answer from the banned mental patient.

            Somewhere in China, a sack of rice tips over.

          • Jarek October 22, 2023 at 1:43 pm #

            Potatoes (commonsense) you have none.

        • Yirgach October 20, 2023 at 4:51 pm #

          Don’t worry Gold is going towards $4000/oz and $10000 is not out of the question.
          The nice thing about Gold is that it is VERY fungible (interchangeable to currency). I have a credit credit card which automatically converts credit points to Gold.
          Converting the Gold balance to $$ is almost immediate.

          • OG October 20, 2023 at 6:24 pm #

            I hope that you receive physical gold. Paper gold will be no better than fiat currency when the shit hits the fan.

          • Night Owl October 20, 2023 at 6:29 pm #

            The Hogger thinks that if collapse occurs, he can simply exchange gold for goods.

            The reality is, that if collapse occurs, you either have what you need (for a period for time), or you trade your skills for what you need.

            The only currency that ever exists, is the one we all agree on.

            Gold tards. LOL.

          • OG October 20, 2023 at 6:42 pm #

            Don’t even try to tell the board what I think, you little weasel. I will tell the board what I think, you little weasel.

            ***
            People have agreed that gold is money for millennia, you little weasel.

            For example, I can very much easily imagine the following scenario:

            1) Shit hits the fan
            2) Gasoline shortage
            3) Black market – 1 oz. gold buys 30 gallons of gasoline
            4) Black market – 1 gallon of gasoline buys a dozen eggs

            In that simple scenario, 1 oz. of gold could provide the owner with 360 eggs – enough protein for an entire year.

            Of course this is a purely hypothetical scenario but it is illustrative that I do know what I am talking about while you spout your little-girl thoughts.

          • malthuss October 20, 2023 at 6:42 pm #

            its worth a million an ounce..the dollar is almost dead.

          • OG October 20, 2023 at 6:55 pm #

            Exactly, malthus, while it closed the week at under $1982. In other words: This is the best buying opportunity of our entire lifetimes – right here, right now. You can still convert worthless fiat US$ for mankind’s true currency: gold and silver.

            Note: Silver closed at $23.40 today. Many believe that this gold/silver ratio of ~ 85 is severely out-of-whack. A simple correction to historical norms would make silver a three-or even four-bagger ceteris paribus.

          • OG October 20, 2023 at 7:27 pm #

            “A picture is worth a thousand words.”

            macrotrends.net/1441/gold-to-silver-ratio

          • OG October 20, 2023 at 9:23 pm #

            “Goldbugs are wrong … until they’re right.”

            ***
            The other Golden Rule:

            He who has the gold makes the rules.

          • Soul Forensics October 20, 2023 at 11:28 pm #

            If FDR could confiscate gold in the 30s when gov’t was actually trusted, imagine what’ll happen when TSHTF this time and the dollar is bumpaper.

            *knock knock*

            “Who’s there?”

            “Gold collection.”

            “Don’t have none. Go away!”

            “That’s all right. The boys just excavated your entire back forty. We have all we need. We just wanted to check your molars. (Aside) Break on through, lads. Cheap panelled wood these days.”

          • OG October 20, 2023 at 11:54 pm #

            That is a very good point, SF. One must hide his physical very well … and never, ever talk about it to anyone ever.

            I can share my wisdom on CFN without fear because crooked lawyers stole my net worth years ago and I’ve got cheap fillings.

          • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 3:54 am #

            You don’t think, so there isn’t much to tell.

            If a collapse happens, what are you going to do, melt down your tiny amount of gold and try to find someone to sell you a loaf of bread or some copper wire?

            The whole thing is a fantasy. If shit hits the fan, you need skills and a community.

            You (in particular) are fucked with your two gold nuggets.

          • OG October 21, 2023 at 10:03 am #

            Did you not even read my simple explanation above of how one could easily break an ounce of gold after TSHTF with gasoline and eggs? Are you unprepared or stupid or both?

            You convinced yourself years ago, Spuds nada, that a gold coin is unbreakable after TSHTF and, therefore, one must trade an entire one-ounce gold coin for a loaf of bread and now you cannot even fathom how stupid that is vis-a-vis mankind’s historically perfect money.

            You don’t trade an ounce of gold for a loaf of bread. You trade an ounce of gold for something of storable value that can be easily subdivided (like gasoline). D’uh!

            ***
            Is my >600% return (so far) on gold purchased at $285/oz a fantasy, Spuds nada? How many seven-baggers have you had in your illustrious investing career?

            Oh! I guess >600% return is a fantasy for you while it is a reality for me. Who is dumb?

          • J.Gan. October 21, 2023 at 11:14 am #

            Where do you take delivery of the gold or is this simply paper gold, as gold is not yours unless it is in hand or the locked safe.

          • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 12:11 pm #

            Good luck trading your gold nuggets to survive, Hogger.

            I encourage you to take this route should the shit hit the fan.

  43. DyersEve October 20, 2023 at 1:10 pm #

    Optimistic as ever, JK, which is a virtue not a sin of course, but I see no evidence whatsoever that the Republicans are going to get anything done now or ever. 90% of them just appear to be the cosmetic flip-side the exact same Uniparty coin. I don’t know how we get out of this mess without an actual bloody revolution.

    • RD3 October 20, 2023 at 1:14 pm #

      The Republican Party is the Washington Generals.

      • OG October 20, 2023 at 2:20 pm #

        Actually, the way that I hear it, the Washington Generals will soon have much of the Republican Party arrested.

  44. OldJarhead03 October 20, 2023 at 1:13 pm #

    Nothing will happen. That would take courageous leaders and followers. The number of legislators that fit that description are measured in the single digits. It would also take citizens not only willing to expect less from government, but also willing to leave their fellow citizens alone. There are damn few of those either. We will continue to sail blindly towards “something harsh, bloody, and awful “.

  45. D from OR October 20, 2023 at 1:16 pm #

    The Deep State money laundering situation ended when LIBOR ended in June. Stirring things up in the Middle East is a desperate move to try and set up another “gift” of aid to launder.

    They are running out of ways to do this.

    They don’t even have enough money to do Hollywood anymore.

    Also what about the Supreme Court hearing arguments about overturning Chevron deference this session?

    I’m hopeful. Things usually happen in unexpected ways.

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    • OG October 20, 2023 at 1:46 pm #

      I hear that the US Supreme Court has a massive-interesting decision coming soon.

  46. malthuss October 20, 2023 at 1:33 pm #

    Everyone in the Biden administration was born in the 80s, which means they came up through the public school system, most of them, in the 90s, where multiculturalism and diversity were the order of the day in indoctrination.

    / duh..they are chosen to destroy. that haitian woman,.,,gawd,

  47. Roundball Shaman October 20, 2023 at 1:48 pm #

    “… when things break really badly, will they break against that vicious blob hard enough to make it stop?”

    Certainly, The Blob itself won’t be of any help there.

    For the Blob to be the Blob in the first place… members have to be dumb as rocks. Followers. Non-thinkers. Bottom-feeders. Uninspired dolts. Functionaries at the service of the Hidden Hands.

    And so, they will not stop nor can they stop Blobbing. Blobism is all They know and believe. They know nothing of life outside The Blob. In fact, They do not think that life even exists beyond the Blob. The boundary line that encompasses Blobism also houses a kind of cultism insanity. And the cultish insane cannot comprehend what sanity is or what a life beyond the Blob could be. Cults to be cults have already severed any connection they may have had to Reality.

    Now to the question of can any Non-Blob force bring the Blob down? Sure it can. See the many failed societies over history and even entire peoples and cultures that have disappeared. Some may have seen the end coming… and many probably did not. When the sewer water of a failed society rises so high that it reaches eye level… you can see nothing else but the sewage. And then when it reaches the tops of heads?… Glug, glug, glug.

    When many people reach their end of days it is not a pleasant sight. They are hurting… they are weak… they are confused… they are afraid… and they wonder what is happening to them and what is next for them.

    And you know what? Nations and Ages go through the same cycle, too. I don’t need to tell you where today’s World and Age rates along this scale of pain and vulnerability and confusion and delusion. Is it Hospice Time for our World?

    While you’re being angry ad confused… try to be gentle with others as well. They are hurting too.

  48. Amman October 20, 2023 at 1:48 pm #

    The nation muddles through to the denouement by 2032.

    And some awful things may happen on the way.

    Like Maui and the Palestine spill, it’s happened before.

    • Jarek October 20, 2023 at 2:55 pm #

      Was the Palestine spill a magical act, paving the way for the invasion of Gaza and the destruction of Hamas?

      • OG October 20, 2023 at 3:26 pm #

        The Hamas Dirtbike Rally & Air Show ’23

  49. Aspen October 20, 2023 at 2:05 pm #

    it’s just a coincidence that the Jewish-lead Brandon Regime is sending all our money and all our weapons to 2 foreign countries on the other side of the globe also run by ****…

    while our Jewish run DHS and DOJ keep the border wide open, violating federal law, to enable the sudden and massive demographic change

    • Night Owl October 20, 2023 at 4:19 pm #

      A new Fed arrives trying to acquire new individuals for his paymasters’ list of suspicious individuals.

      Langley is for gheys.

    • 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 4:40 pm #

      The UK made Israel, and we got the never-ending bill.
      The most enduring and expensive foreign aid package in the history of our nation.
      Funny how that worked.

      This is because the UK didn’t allow their country and political elite to be overrun by dual loyalists. By $. At least not to the extent that America has.

      The US on the other hand… we have donors/people who contribute to politicians who espouse an open border here, but are 100% against the same in Israel. Again, if you listen to Greenwald and Smith, it is because how American Jewish people, particularly the more religious, the zionist, are inculcated since early childhood about the sanctity and “speecialness” of Israel.

      America? Eh, not so special

  50. Bilejones October 20, 2023 at 2:58 pm #

    ” sussing out the October 7 Hamas massacre in Israel?”
    How about sussing out the October 5th invasion, occupation and desecration of the Al Aqsa Mosque by 700 plus Israel’s that was the precipitating event?

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    • Paula D October 20, 2023 at 4:17 pm #

      You think Hamas organized that invasion in 2 days?

      • King of Comedy October 20, 2023 at 4:38 pm #

        Never mind all that… the major news outlets are reporting that Israel bombed an Orthodox church in which Palestinian scientists were working on and had actually found a cure for cancer and cough due to cold… and now that cure is lost, I tell you, lost forever… well, the media now says they actually bombed a building next to the church… or maybe just a wall next to a building next to the church… minor details… but the stuff about the cancer is all true

        • elysianfield October 20, 2023 at 6:03 pm #

          King,
          Yes they did cure cancer, and also had the blueprints for the 100mpg carburetor…,

          • BackRowHeckler October 20, 2023 at 6:49 pm #

            Not to mention the ‘Battery Breakthrough’ they had just perfected, the Nuclear Fusion process that was near completion, the cure for ‘Systemic Racism’ that was almost ready for deployment, and the answer to the Climate Catastrophe.

        • Islander October 20, 2023 at 9:09 pm #

          Ha ha!
          Destroying a 12th C. church and killing 16 Christians along the way.

          Ha ha!
          You need a sense of humor to get the joke, of course.

          • Paula D October 21, 2023 at 11:52 am #

            I’m guessing they must be Catholic.

          • King of Comedy October 21, 2023 at 1:21 pm #

            Except that the church wasn’t destroyed… which is the point. The tired old playbook was tried a week ago when the usual subjects claimed that the church was “razed”. That was an outright hoax while this time is more like a half-truth (a quarter truth?). The bottom line is that the Israelis and Palestinians are engaged in total war. Every rocket the Palis fire into Israel is aimed at civilian populations and every Israeli air strike is willing to accept collateral damage. What’s intersecting is that those who are laser-focused on press manipulation in other contexts are completely susceptible to it in this one as long as it syncs with their particular bias.

          • Paula D October 21, 2023 at 7:59 pm #

            They didn’t destroy the entire church, that is correct.

            They bombed the church hall, where people were sheltering and killed a number of people (I’ve seen different numbers.)

            A pox on both their houses, for sure, but attacking civilians is wrong for both sides.

            And it is very strange that Orthodox churches, and their parishioners, seem to be targeted in so many countries.

            Maybe the Vatican should refrain from accepting the loot.
            It looks bad to normal people.

          • Socrates-Detroit October 22, 2023 at 9:58 am #

            “It seems very strange that Orthodox Churches and their parishioners seem to be bombed in so many countries”

            That’s a very astute observation Paula.

            Doubly impressive if you are not an Orthodox Christian (and impressive if you are, as many Orthodox in places where they are not being bombed, like the US and Greece, don’t see it).

            Not so strange. Let me try to explain:

            Why is that? Because just like many Israelis (and virtuallly ALL Israeli leaders) consider the Palestinians to be the “Untermensch” (that’s what the N-a–zis considered the Jews, in case you’re not familiar with the term), the Globalist Cabal is ultimately Satanic and hates Christians.

            Orthodox Christianity IS the original Church of Christ.

            So now you know.

            There is a “spiritual component” to all the world’s strife, in addition to the physical component, which is primarily about resources such as water, oil, farmland, etc, but also about national pride and ego.

            Orthodox Christian people have suffered disproportionately in this world. As Christ said, to paraphrase loosely, “those who suffer for my sake in this world will have eternal life in the Kingdom of God in the next”

            The world has only had two nominally Orthodox major powers: the Byzantine Empire, and the Russia (in two phases: 17xx-1917 and the current one starting in 20xx. Communism was a Western virus). Since the decline and fall of the Byzantine Empire, the Orthodox peoples have had a difficult lot in life. And that includes Communism in the USSR, and from 1945-99, Eastern Europe.

            Again, I am impressed with your astute observation. And your brevity

      • Socrates-Detroit October 22, 2023 at 9:42 am #

        No.

        First of all, it has hardly an invasion. It was more like a small-scale Tet Offensive.

        Or, a large scale Warsaw uprising.

        Second, while we the Hamas attack may not have been justified, and while their methods were despicable, the fact is the Israelis have been abusing Palestinians for many years.

        This year, shootings of Palestinians in the West Bank are way up. Israel has bombed Gaza before, though not this much.

        So perhaps Hamas was waiting for a pretext. The Israelis have gone out of their way to pi$$ on and offend Moslems with the Al-Aqsa Mosque. So maybe that was it.

        I don’t know.

        I do know that America is clusterfuck-nation.

        I don’t think Israel is the straw that will break the (USA) camel’s back; Israel is the BRICK that will break the USA dam.

  51. Beryl of Oyl October 20, 2023 at 3:10 pm #

    “In the United States, the House of Representatives has the sole power of impeachment of federal officials, that is the bringing of charges against an official, and the Senate is the tribunal that adjudicates the charges and, if found guilty, removes the official from office. Three presidents (Andrew Johnson, 1868; Bill Clinton, 1998; and Donald Trump, 2019) have been impeached and one (Richard Nixon, 1974) resigned before the House could impeach him. Fifteen federal judges have also been impeached, eight of whom were convicted by the Senate and removed from office with one resigning before the Senate could convict, the most recent conviction being in 2010.

    One final note, many people use impeach to mean remove an official from office. Technically, impeachment is just the charges; removal requires a trial before the appropriate tribunal. This sense of impeach meaning remove from office isn’t in any of the standard dictionaries and is incorrect from a legal perspective, but linguistically it is a correct usage because so many people use it in this manner.”

    https://www.wordorigins.org/big-list-entries/impeach-impeachment

  52. Beryl of Oyl October 20, 2023 at 3:44 pm #

    Mitt Romney was well aware of Burisma. His close advisor was on the board of Burisma along with Hunter Biden.

    What we also uncovered was that Joseph Cofer Black, who joined the Burisma Board was also linked to Romney and the CIA.

    Hunter wanted to get someone on the Burisma Board from the CIA. This was noted from an email on Hunter’s laptop.

    Black was a former CIA official who joined Burisma’s Board in 2019. Black is also connected to Senator Mitt Romney having served as his advisor for national security on Romney’s 2008 campaign as well as a special advisor for national security and foreign policy on Romney’s 2012 failed Presidential campaign.

    Romney knew of Burisma. His advisor from the CIA was placed on Burisma’s Board at the same time Romney was working to impeach President Trump.

    Romney was not telling the truth when he spoke with Hannity or when he voted to impeach President Trump.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/10/exclusive-mitt-romney-caught-lie-his-cia-linked/

    • elysianfield October 20, 2023 at 9:21 pm #

      Beryl,
      I LOATHE that smarmy son of a bitch. I hope he die…I hope he momma die….

    • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 9:22 pm #

      Wasn’t one of Willard “The Rat” Romney’s sons also involved with Burisma, or at least some Hunter Biden-related shenanigans in Ukraine?

  53. OG October 20, 2023 at 4:27 pm #

    Col. Douglas MacGregor reports to Judge Napolitano this morning that The Times of Israel has reported that “President Biden” assured Prime Minister Netanyahu that the US would engage with Hezbollah if they attacked Israel’s north from Lebanon.

    That is, if Hezbollah invades, then we are assuredly in World War III.

    youtube.com/watch?v=iq1SjC7u8l0

    • OG October 20, 2023 at 4:38 pm #

      “Hezbollah will attack. Hezbollah has 100,000 fighters. In addition to that, they’ve got 140,000 missiles and rockets – of which about 40,000 are very accurate and lethal.”

      • BackRowHeckler October 20, 2023 at 7:03 pm #

        Hezbollah is more formidable than Hamas OG, but no match for the IDF. Their host country, Lebanon, totally collapsed after the port explosion in Bierut a few years ago. Lebanon is a failed state that can’t even provide its citizens with clean drinking water or electricity and is in no condition to support any kind of military excursion by Hezbollah. (Its not widely known that Iran & Israel have been cooperating to keep Lebanon afloat) I doubt if there will be a wider war. Syria is a wreck after a dozen years of civil war. Egypt ran Gaza 1948-1967, and it was nothing but a big head ache for them. Egyptians want nothing to do with the Palestinian trouble makers.

        • OG October 20, 2023 at 7:19 pm #

          1) Are you saying that “Biden” did not promise Netanyahu that the US Air Force will fight if Hezbollah attacks while the IDF is engaged and knee-deep in urban warfare in Gaza, Heckler?

          2) If the IDF is so good, how did the most secure border on earth suffer fifteen (15) fence breaches for terrorists on dirtbikes while others gently landed in bunches after falling from the sky?

          [Answer: Because the IDF was ordered to stand down, of course.]

          I am less optimistic than are you vis-a-vis the near-future escalation of this war. The US Fed Note really is bankrupt – they really need a world war. Really.

          Plus the IDF was ordered to stand-down on 10/7 for a reason. They don’t run black ops willy-nilly.

          • BackRowHeckler October 20, 2023 at 8:38 pm #

            I was just commenting on the possibility of this spreading into a larger regional war, OG. Of course anything can happen & I could be wrong. As far as your other points I’m not really sure.

        • gustafson.robert.22 October 20, 2023 at 7:19 pm #

          Did you watch the Scott Ritter video where he maintains that neither Israel nor USA can defend Israel against a Middle East uniting in jihad-mode?

          • OG October 20, 2023 at 7:50 pm #

            Throw in Russia and China and hoo-boy!

          • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 4:08 am #

            Why would you need a video for that? Israel is a US/globocap satellite state established as a base of operations for bringing the ME in line with the globocap program.

            It is another Ukraine. The reason they will do just about anything to keep it going is that if they lose it, it will take decades or more to find another way to create another foothold.

            This place is nearly devoid of good geopolitical understanding lately. Have you ever taken a poli-sci class or spent any time considering the basic mechanics of how empire expands over time?

          • gustafson.robert.22 October 21, 2023 at 6:31 am #

            Ritter’s a good military guy, and he’s almost calling a defeat for Israel and any allies, in Gaza and maybe more, not just floating a general “if/then.”

          • OG October 21, 2023 at 9:38 am #

            Do not concern yourself with the little brain-drippings of Spuds nada, Gus. She merely has little-girl thoughts while trying to keep her lust for penal activity closeted.

            “Have you ever taken a poli-sci class or spent any time considering the basic mechanics of how empire expands over time?”

            What a pompous little dweeb. She has no clue how anything works but is somehow 100% convinced that the millions of people who suffered severe illness did so due to absolutely no cause whatsoever.

            After 10/7, she actually admonished people on this board for even mentioning war in the ME! She’s dumber than dirt.

            Spuds nada has zero credibility on this board. Zilch. Bupkis.

            ***
            Scott Ritter has indeed been an incredibly reliable source of intel and analysis throughout the war in Ukraine and, now, the ME.

          • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

            Yes, Gus. Ritter is good on this stuff. My point was that everyone at that level already knows it.

            Without globocap backing, Isreal is toast, and Israel only exists because it is a cat’s paw like Ukraine.

          • SteveK9 October 21, 2023 at 12:37 pm #

            Particularly, as we are seeing in Ukraine, a $1000 drone can destroy a $20M tank. That expensive hardware is going to be a lot less useful, than planned. Iran has larger drones that have been used to great effect in Ukraine.

        • OG October 20, 2023 at 8:22 pm #

          Every Signal Indicates That War With Hezbollah Is About To Start As Iran Raises The Black Flag

          theeconomiccollapseblog.com/every-signal-indicates-that-war-with-hezbollah-is-about-to-start-as-iran-raises-the-black-flag/

          All of the signs are telling us that a war between Israel and Hezbollah is imminent. And once it begins, the U.S. and Iran will inevitably get sucked into the conflict as well. We are literally talking about an apocalyptic scenario, and that is going to have enormous implications for all of us. Hezbollah has an arsenal of 130,000 missiles that it can launch at Israeli cities, Iran possesses even greater firepower than Hezbollah does, and the Israelis have quite a few surprises up their sleeves. I will just leave it at that for now. As this war evolves, the entire world will be shocked by the death and destruction that we witness.

          Unfortunately, there is no turning back now.

          ***
          Clearly the IDF was ordered to stand down on 10/7 for a reason. They wanted this war and now they’ve got it.

          • JohnAZ October 21, 2023 at 1:12 pm #

            Iran is playing USA tactics, let someone else fight the war. Arm a bunch of unemployed thugs to do your fighting for you

          • Socrates-Detroit October 22, 2023 at 10:07 am #

            I agree. The Israeli govt probably knew something was in the works, and decided to ramp up the abuses in the West Bank, and the humiliation/abuse at the Al-Aqsa mosque.

            If you listen to the comments of Bibi and other prominent Israelis, “destroy Hamas” is the priority–not saving Israeli hostages.

            The Tet-like “shock” of the Hamas offensives seems to have rallied Israelis like Bibi wanted.

            But the “shock” has also angered many of them. So, the PACE of the ongoing Israeli policy to harass and “eliminate” their “Palestinian problem” has shifted into high gear, with emphasis on ELIMINATION.

            But Bibi’s future prospects don’t look so good.

            Bibi may be a Jew, but is is a tool of more powerful Zionist Globalists. To them he is expendable. It’s the policy that matters, and that has moved faster.

            The one (unrelated) thing I cannot fathom is why the Israeli government was so ZEALOUS in forcing people to take the mRNA shots (unless they knew Israel would only get placebo injections).

        • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 4:11 am #

          It wont spread. Even Putin said the same recently.

          No actors outside of the US have a reason to care.

          Israel is a globocap cat’s paw that will fall as soon as the states around it unite against it. It is not vital to anyone’s existence, but it is a vital outpost for long-term expansion of the globo-homo empire.

          The innocent Jews and Palis are simply caught up in a series of events set up by outside forces for resource theft.

          • JohnAZ October 21, 2023 at 1:10 pm #

            Good assessment, NO

            I do not think that Israel will just go away however.

          • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 4:03 pm #

            I don’t know what the solution is until the globonuts leave the Israelis to their own destiny.

            As I have said many times: The whole thing is stupid and quite sad for the people caught up in it.

          • Socrates-Detroit October 22, 2023 at 10:14 am #

            Israel will never go away.

            Read up on The Samson Option. Seymour Hersh

            They will take the entire world with them. This is the main reason the Israelis sought and acquired nukes.

            They can’t really nuke their neighboring enemies because the fallout will consume them also.

            They can nuke the Persian Gulf, and irradiate all the Middle East oil, effectively destroying the world economy and unleashing other wars.

            And they may have been able to nuke the USSR, or perhaps still can hit Russia today, where USSR/Russia will hold US accountable and nuke it, and you have the end of the planet.

          • Jarek October 22, 2023 at 1:47 pm #

            Israel has vowed to take out Europe if things don’t go their way. I assume that means being helped in event of a major Muslim attack.

          • Night Owl October 23, 2023 at 4:47 am #

            Soc, it will go away when its neighbors decide to make it go away.

            Just like Ukraine.

            There is no other option for them, as the globocappers would never relenquish their gains.

          • Socrates-Detroit October 23, 2023 at 1:09 pm #

            “Israel has vowed to take Europe out”

            Are you familiar with Samson of the Old Testament?

            He was willing to kill himself, if God would let him kill is “enemies”

            That’s Israel’s game plan. Israel has nukes.

    • Paula D October 20, 2023 at 8:59 pm #

      Hezbollah has been shelling Israeli settlements near the border.

      27,000 settlers are evacuating at this time. It was illegal for them to be there anyway, though.

      Putin made a statement about the US bringing warships into the Med, pointing out that Russia could reach those ships with Kinzhal missiles.
      He made sure to be clear that it wasn’t a threat, just a statement of fact.

      Biden holds himself to no such standards, and is threatening all over the place.

      Yemen has already shelled a US ship in the Red Sea, but the media is reporting it as the ship “intercepted” missiles meant for Israel.

      Sure, dudes, hitting Israel from Yemen.

      The two US warships are parked just outside of the range of Hezbollah missiles.

      3 soldiers died in an US military base in Iraq, hit by a missile.
      Although one apparently from a heart attack. Guess the covid shot was more responsible for that one.

      The media is keeping quiet about these attacks. Guess they ain’t ready for WW3 just yet, or it would be all over the Mighty Wurlitzer.

      • Jimmy Word October 21, 2023 at 8:55 am #

        Putin’s being understandably cautious. A dying empire is at its most dangerous when desperation sets in. The US is at that stage as we speak.

        • Paula D October 21, 2023 at 11:49 am #

          Indeed. The responsible leaders of the world are trying to back away slowly from the crazy nuke country, hoping that it will collapse before it destroys the world.

          It’s the ones who are as nuts as our overlords that are the problem. We got Hamas, we got Hezbollah, we got Ansar Allah, and more that haven’t gotten involved yet.

          Are there any grown-ups in the US government?

          The fact that the Mighty Wurlitzer is silent on the attacks is a good sign.

          • JohnAZ October 21, 2023 at 1:08 pm #

            Uh huh.

            We are watching a very small group in the House trying to enlarge a crack in the Deep State dike that theTrump MAGA movement created.

            It is straight forward now. If you believe that the government is supreme, that is one pathway, vote for Jeffries. If you feel that, as RR said, that government is not the solution because it is the problem, then this small group trying to stop the government control explosion are heroes.

            PS, the establishment RINOs are no help.

    • JohnAZ October 21, 2023 at 1:19 pm #

      The degree of the warfare that would occur, would it need a declaration of war from the Congress?

      Could Biden commit the Pentagon to war there on his say-so?

      If so, folks, we are already a dictatorship.

  54. Yirgach October 20, 2023 at 4:34 pm #

    As the Great Glorious Leader Obama has said, “Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to fuck things up.”

    And “Joe” has been more than capable of that!

    So here we are in the last stages of this Republic/Democracy and it’s good to recall this list:

    “Eight Stages of a Democracy.”

    1) Bondage to Spiritual Faith

    2) Spiritual Faith to Great Courage

    3) Great Courage to Liberty

    4) Liberty to Abundance

    5) Abundance to Selfishness

    6) Selfishness to Apathy

    7) Apathy to Dependence

    8) Dependence back to Bondage

    Looks like we’re at # 8.

    See httXX://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/03/what_if_alexander_tytler_was_right.html

    • JohnAZ October 21, 2023 at 1:01 pm #

      Hmmm, interesting that your list follows the stages of the Fourth Turning. Return to stage one follows a war deciding which sector of a society wins!!!

      Bondage or freedom for a people ridding themselves of a dependence authorized government?

      • Yirgach October 21, 2023 at 6:38 pm #

        Yes, it appears we are a tipping point here. The 19th century Tytler quote has never been authenticated, but it sure sounds about right…

        Ridding a “dependence authorized government” is never a small task, almost impossible given the control of today’s media.
        It generally involves a world war. Or two.

        The near future will at least be extremely interesting if not painful for a lot of us…

  55. Paula D October 20, 2023 at 5:43 pm #

    Ukraine outlaws the Orthodox Church in Ukraine. This follows their persecution of the church and its monks, as well as the looting of the churches, with some of the loot going to the Vatican, “for safe keeping”.
    Shades of Constantinople.

    The same day, Israel, (founded with the support of the OG Vatican bankers, the Rothschild family), bombed one of the oldest churches in the world, an Orthodox church in Gaza, killing approx 40 people.

    It’s almost as if there is another motive for these US-backed wars of aggression.

    Add Serbia to the list. The US backed Catholic Croats, and Muslim Albanians, against the Orthodox Serbs. Coincidence?

    Add also the country of Syria, home to the oldest Christian churches (Orthodox) in the world, since Saul converted on the road to Damascus.

    The US turned ISIS loose on the town of Maalua, a Christian town in Syria, whose inhabitants still speak Aramaic, as part of their attempt to destroy the secular government of Syria. Joe Biden was vice-president at the time.

    John Roberts, Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh. are all Opus Dei-affiliated, and Bill Barr is rumored to be, also. It is a secret society, so it’s difficult to know for sure.

    Is Joe Biden?

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    • Night Owl October 20, 2023 at 6:26 pm #

      But there are too many people, Paula. So you claim.

      Why would you care?

    • OG October 20, 2023 at 6:30 pm #

      ISIS = Israeli Secret Intelligence Services

      I hear that ISIS is, actually, a Mossad black op.

      • Jimmy Word October 20, 2023 at 7:25 pm #

        That I don’t doubt whatsoever. I know for damn sure they’re not what is being portrayed.

        • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 3:57 am #

          You think ISIS are Israeli?

          LOL.

          • Jimmy Word October 21, 2023 at 8:53 am #

            I think they’re a front group for somebody, probably multiple somebodies. Guns for hire.

          • OG October 21, 2023 at 12:11 pm #

            Your suspicion is reasonable, JW. Spuds believes that he’s always right and, therefore, if you think something other than his little-girl thoughts, you need simply be LOLed at.

            Spuds is a mentally little girl with a decent education, a good job and a below 140 IQ. Nothing more.

            It is a shame that she never grew up. She could be so much more than she became.

          • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

            They are a collection of fanatics and mercenaries, just like Azov in Ukraine. Fighting for dough and other trinkets promised by globocap.

            They are not secret Israeli agents.

          • OG October 21, 2023 at 12:24 pm #

            Why do you think that President Potatohead just gave the Palis $100mm? For a job well done, of course.

            Why did the 9/11 terrorists have all sorts of goofy US contacts and entertainment habits?

            Why did their supposed Afghan cave-dwelling boss’ extended family board the only air traffic on the entire continent to skedaddle back to Saudi Arabia 0n 9/12 and 9/13?

            Why was Sirhan Sirhan all MK Ultraed?

            Why did Lee Harvey Oswald return to the US after defecting to Russia?

            ***
            The R0thschilds do not just control banking, MSM, Big Tech, Big Oil, Big Pharma and every other profitable industry (legal & not) on earth, they also control governments and their militaries and intelligence.

            Think about it.

          • OG October 21, 2023 at 12:29 pm #

            Nobody said that the ISIS soldiers were “secret Israeli agents,” you strawman-building dense little girl.

            Black ops don’t work that way. D’uh!

            We are saying that Israeli agents and upper-echelon ISIS are in cahoots for mutual gain while ISIS soldiers are pawns.

            Maybe we should just pop a Disney DVD into the machine for you while us adults talk about about adult things, ok, little missy?

          • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 2:37 pm #

            You (no one else) literally wrote that ISIS is a Mossad operation.

            I realize you are batshit crazy, but do attempt to stick to what you wrote.

  56. hustled enough October 20, 2023 at 6:39 pm #

    Dear JHK Admin,
    “As of right now, the Party of Chaos is living up to its name. ” 2 October 2023
    “The psychodrama in the House of Representatives this week looked like a possible inflection point in the blob’s war against the American people. Mr. Gaetz evicted the quisling Speaker Kevin McCarthy in a rather brave gambit, opening up the possibility of unifying his party against the programmatic wickedness of the post-Covid-19 era —” 6 October 2023
    “I’m confident that Congress will sort out this new Speaker business in short order, now that the world appears to light up. ….  I’d guess that the new Speaker will have to be Mr. Jordan of Ohio, because at this time Congress badly needs to be led by someone who at least appears to be muscular and confident.” 9 October 2023
    “And the USA is so lost in self mind-fuckery that we can’t even get our House of Representatives in order. … Yet to play out is America’s crisis of leadership. “13 Oct 2023

    Can we agree that you have badly mischaracterised what is going on in our Capital at the moment? The Party of Chaos is the one who is trying and failing to walk and chew gum at the same time–the Republicans in the House. We have cry baby Republicans saying that it is the Democrats’ fault that the majority party can’t elect a Speaker (ah, I know that some Democrats voted against Nancy Pelosi on occasion for the Speaker’s gavel; did any Republicans ever vote for her?). How bat shit crazy and desperate do you have to be to blame your schizophrenia on others. Those are the voices in your own heads that you are hearing, Republicans.

    As for Matt Gaetz, could it be the case that folks on the right like him because he wants to “break the wheel” and bring the end of days upon us at an earlier point in time, so that in the ensuing chaos, Democracy can just fade away? Wouldn’t it be ever so lovely if we had an authoritarian ruler who didn’t have to listen to an ineffectual Congress who can’t even wipe its own backside? Good job, Republicans.

    And some how, you believe with confidence(?) that, ”We await a brisk House inquiry to put all that evidence in order,…” 20 October 2023.

    Well, there is this guy who used to be President… Let us have an inquiry into that? Oh wait, no worries, we are way beyond that stage. We already have 4 indictments and 91 charges, and two witnesses including Chesebro and Sidney “Unleash the Kraken” Powell what are now playing ball with the prosecutors down in Georgia with pleas deals and cooperation. Is that all Blobby hate coming DT’s way? Or could it actually be that the former President is corrupt as all get out and a clear and present danger to the survival of democracy in this country? Time will tell.

    • Yirgach October 20, 2023 at 7:02 pm #

      Uh no.

    • Uncle Bob October 20, 2023 at 9:29 pm #

      Christ, you’re a moron.

      • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 4:04 am #

        Very OG-like. A wall of text calling attention to the fact that everything he things is more or less an emotion devoid of any considered thought.

        There has been an uptick in this sort of thing over the past few months.

      • jackrabbit October 21, 2023 at 1:03 pm #

        Crazy ol’ UB has trouble w reality.

    • JohnAZ October 21, 2023 at 12:32 pm #

      The former president is corrupt as all get out?

      Huh?

      What signs did he show of corruption?

      Did he sign up to global forces or was he America First?

      Did he have a gang, a Mob, a Blob backing him up?

      Or did he have a tough time finding people in DC willing to put up with him trying to drain the swamp?

      Did he have support from damn near everyone in his party or survive attacks over and over from those folks. Think Romney, Flake, Cheney et al.

      BTW, That RINO contingent fighting the conservative sector for Deep State control of the House is what is hanging up the Speaker election. The anti-Deep State folks want to shut down the government and put it at criticality to effect change. IMHO, that is what Trump is saying too.

      A challenge to democracy? How?

      Define democracy? To me, what the current Mob is doing is a direct threat to the people of the country, socialism, reparations, redistribution of the wealth into irresponsible hands, tax and spend with no fiscal and wealth support, cowardly foreign policy allowing the totalitarian forces to gather strength, advocating support for regimes that your family and Mob have fiscal interests in.

      Trump maybe a sometimes ugly form of the Alpha male, but his heart relative to the Deep State boys and girls is in the right place.

      No one could have designed an administration that would be worse than Biden and his DNC mob. Even Obama said so, warning his compatriots that Biden had never made a good foreign policy decision ever.

      • JohnAZ October 21, 2023 at 12:37 pm #

        Is control by the Mob the definition of democracy? The Founders knew that that was a disaster brewing when they formed the Constitution representative formats.

        Right now, the USA empire is crumbling, like Rome, under fiscally irresponsible, “buy the vote” control of the mob.

      • jackrabbit October 21, 2023 at 1:02 pm #

        ‘His heart is in the right place….’ Trump is as hollow and amoral as a chocolate egg at Easter.

        • JohnAZ October 21, 2023 at 1:27 pm #

          And who isn’t, troll? You make such droll ignorant statements, an AI troll would be more astute.

          Hmm, a droll troll!!

    • TPTB-USA October 22, 2023 at 11:59 am #

      What has the house failed to do? Assert it’s authority?

      Have the democrats figured out a way to circumvent the authority of the house?

      Perhaps the Kabuki theater that is playing out, just amounts to the republicans figuring out how to play hard ball.

      What is the ultimate objective? Dismantle bundling?

      Newt discussed how to do this without ever electing a speaker.

  57. 100th Avatar October 20, 2023 at 7:35 pm #

    Where are the true conservatives who decry cancel culture?

    Top law firms, investment banks, finance institutions are rescinding job offers to Ivy League graduates who are not toeing the line on Israel.

    Who dare criticize, who dare oppose.

    Occupied America
    In government, in the minds, in the mouth

    • OG October 20, 2023 at 7:48 pm #

      I remember being a fish out of water – landing on Bay Street in 1992. An older gentleman there [Nesbitt Thomson] took me under his wing. He was a fine mentor, a splendid man old British gentleman who had come to Toronto decades earlier.

      One day we were talking Canadian politics with a looming federal election. I was still young and idealistic back then.

      “I’m voting Chrétien [Liberal],” I proudly proclaimed.

      “Don’t say that here!” I was admonished.

      Bay Street and, even more so, Wall Street are very conservative places. You make lots of money and you do not rock the boat.

    • JohnAZ October 21, 2023 at 12:49 pm #

      I know your feelings about Israel.

      Consider though the effect of Israel being driven into the sea as the Iranian groups want to do.

      No stable Western style government in the region to counterbalance nutty regimes like Iran?

      No target for the Islamic forces to attack instead of the USA.

      No place to put the myriad of Jews and their hearts in the world. If you are a self identified anti semite, that is okay.

      Most important of all, even Britain circa 1940s realized that the constantly fighting Middle East was a threat to the flow of oil from the Gulf. To thePTB of the moment, allowing Israel to coalesce was the ticket to solving many problems. The Zionist movement used these folks toget what they wanted.

      Again, picture what will happen if Israel was eliminated. Is it better or worse than we have now?

      I wonder how many UN, think USA troops it would take to stabilize the region sans Israel?

      • JohnAZ October 21, 2023 at 12:53 pm #

        For Avatar.

      • 100th Avatar October 21, 2023 at 2:49 pm #

        I do not feel anything towards Israel.
        Just as I feel nothing towards Trinidad & Tobago, Suriname, or Namibia.

        However, if the U.S. was on the verge of WWIII on account of undue influence by Americans indoctrinated to believe that the evil Abrahamic god promised them these lands, or that they had some deep connection with these places and its people to the DETRIMENT of their “chosen” homeland, AKA America, and their chosen countrymen. AKA Americans, I would most certainly take notice.

        Moreover, the UK and the U.S. has been working to destabilize that region for ages.

        You are right about one thing John.
        Anyone who questions this arrangement.
        The incontrovertible proof that Jewish/Israel influence dominates American politics and governance, then that makes me an antisemite. Anyone not in lockstep, who dares question the arrangement, as defined by the ADL the SPLC, etc., is an antisemite.

        Perfect.
        I prefer it.
        This way you can not hate individuals on account of their Jewish ancestry, heritage, citizenship (Israelis) and still be an antisemite.
        In essence, they made it hate and racism free. Finally.

        • JohnAZ October 21, 2023 at 9:01 pm #

          Avatar

          I read a book written by the former ambassador of Israel talking about his relations with Obama and his mob.

          It was not congenial at all, Obama was against Israel in every way he could be and get away with it. I am actually surprised that Biden has taken the stand he has.

          Do you think that possibly the split in the Democratic Party between their establishment folks and the Wokesters is being exposed here?

          This country is about to split into many pieces, politically.

          You are not an antisemite. Antisemites hate Jews for no reason. To you, they are a threat.

          I just believe that the Progressives and the Deep State are a much bigger threat.

          • Jarek October 22, 2023 at 1:51 pm #

            For no reason? Just like Whites hate Blacks for no reason?

            That is senseless, John. Whites have their reasons, sometimes good, sometimes bad.

          • 100th Avatar October 22, 2023 at 3:27 pm #

            John is a sponge of Fox talking points
            From hannity’s mouth to his ears

      • gustafson.robert.22 October 21, 2023 at 4:22 pm #

        Let Iran have the Middle East… let Israel go, and if Iran goes full nutbar, THEN you rain down on them.

        I question the strategic value of Israel as a foothold… for the USA, even for globocap… for anyone.

        • Paula D October 21, 2023 at 8:05 pm #

          Israel was America’s unsinkable warship in the Middle East.

          Why would the US be so intent on having control there?

          Oil.

          But now it looks like the rest of the oil countries are banding together against Israel.

          My bet is that the US dumps Israel soon. This is the conclusion I have drawn from watching the official propaganda change.

          The best bet for the US to try to keep control of the oil is by dumping Israel.

          • JohnAZ October 21, 2023 at 8:41 pm #

            Au contraire, Paula.

            Saudi and Iran are both becoming members of BRICS++. The organization that is forming to destroy the United States global influence and the dollar.

            You are right, they are banding together against Israel, until Israel kicks some Arab ass. Then, as always, the Arabs will back off direct conflict with Israel as their proxies, the poor bastards in Lebanon and the Gaza, take all the heat.

            The USA will continue to back Israel as they have no choice, the only game in town.

            The West will back Israel, BRICS will back the proxies. This is a proxy fight with global impact.

            The real question is will the WEF or BRICS fight to the death over the Jewish – Arab conflict.

            Revelation sends a scary opinion of that.

            The USA rejecting Israel will destroy the oil supply chain from the Gulf as an energized Iran will just block the Gulf and Saudi will stop the flow to the West.

            Historical precedence occurred in 1973.

          • Socrates-Detroit October 22, 2023 at 11:14 am #

            JohnAZ

            The US government, specifically the US military and intelligence services are the enforcement arm of the WEF.

            The WEF/Globalists/One-worlders/Zionists, whatever name you wish to apply are essentially the same thing. They seek a one-world government, with themselves being like God.

            It won’t work.

            And PaulaD, no the US government will not put he interests of the USA and the US public first.

            It will do as Israel wants, because the above entities (WEF/Zionists) control the US. Israel is the tail that wags the US dog.

            When or if the US is no longer of use to Israel, then Israel will jettison the US.

          • Paula D October 22, 2023 at 11:52 am #

            Of course, the US government will not put the interests of the US public first.

            I was speaking of the oil interests, not the American people.

            But I disagree that Israel controls the US government. And I still hold that the propaganda is changing, so that usually signals a change in policy.
            Just my theory, I’m not declaring it to be definite.

            I would also point out that Iran is not Arab, that Jews live unmolested in Iran, and that the embargo was the Arab countries, not Iran. At that time, the US controlled Iran, through the Shah.

          • Jarek October 22, 2023 at 1:52 pm #

            You’re forgetting who control our foreign policy and media, Paula.

            The Global Elite may not even like it at this point, but it’s a fact.

          • Socrates-Detroit October 23, 2023 at 1:06 pm #

            Paula, Israel is not America’s unsinkable warship. What has Israel done for the US, ever?

            Of course oil is extremely important.

            If the supply of oil dried up tomorrow and America was impotent, Israel is on its own.

            Yes, another astute observation: Jews live (relatively) unmolested in Iran. I believe that, not because I’ve been to Iran, but because Forbes magazine, which editorially is hostile to Iran, had a Jewish staffer write about his trip to Jewish communities in Iran, and printed an article about his observations in 2008, and I was blown away by the article. Because, having spent time in Saudi, I can assure there is NO WAY there are Jewish communities there.

            Iran is not Arab, or Sunni, yes.

            In 1973, the Shah was America’s “friend” (not really, but that’s another post). As long as he was in charge, he provided oil to Israel. That changed with the Islamic Republic. But, the Islamic Republic has not persecuted the Jews, or harassed them to the extent they were harassed in Arab countries in the 1950s (and thus left).

            Have you heard of the USS Liberty? US Navy communications/spy ship, attacked by Israeli aircraft, who tried to sink the ship, 32 Sailors killed, 1xx wounded. The US Navy was DENIED permission to assist the ship, because LBJ did not want to create friction with Jewish donors, who contributed a lot to the Democratic party.

            Since then, the Israeli lobby has grown far more powerful.

            Sheldon Adelson, a very wealthy man, made lots of comments to the effect of “kill all the Palestinians”. I’ve read he gave Trump a LOT of money–as in a quarter to a third of Trump’s campaign funds.

            Trump moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem. AND, he gave Adelson’s wife the “Medal of Freedom”.

            You can’t make this stuff up.

            The US will never abandon Israel. And Israel is a very HEAVY straw that will break the back of the US.

            Karma is bitch.

            We Americans (with open eyes, like people here) are watching industrial grade slaughter right before our eyes.

            We justly lament the victims of Hamas, but completely ignore vastly larger numbers of Palestinians killed in similar fashion, over decades.

            Our government isn’t just watching–it is aiding and abetting the slaughter.

            Karma is bitch. And I believe there is a God. There will be consequences.

        • JohnAZ October 21, 2023 at 8:52 pm #

          Then you rain down on them?

          Nah, we will just make excuses again and kick the Iran can down the road again, and again.

          Just like our economy.

          When does it end, when does the red line get crossed.

          One thing about ol’ Putin, when NATO crossed his red line, he did something about it.

          Resolute behavior by BRICS++ will be the thing that brings down the West.

          That and infinite immigration just replacing the West populations will bring the end of the American Empire and the “democracy” that it espouses but does not enforce.

          It is underway, this Israeli proxy fight is just a battle in the war. Biden’s mob knows this, that is why Israel has his backing in this global fight. As much as it kills me to admit he can do anything right, IMHO he is fighting the good fight with this one. Remember he is fighting for the integrity of the Deep State, number one.

          • JohnAZ October 21, 2023 at 9:02 pm #

            For Gustafson.

          • gustafson.robert.22 October 22, 2023 at 12:41 am #

            I would just like a clear explanation of why the “Israeli proxi” is actually effective to keep the oil flowing. If it ever was, I suspect it’s less so now.

            If Iran stops western flow, go to war then, directly.

          • Paula D October 22, 2023 at 11:59 am #

            You think you can bomb Iran into giving the US oil?

            Explain how that works.

          • Jarek October 22, 2023 at 1:55 pm #

            We’re allies, right John?

            What exactly do they do for us again? Yes, they help us help them, sure. But what do we get out of it in and for ourselves?

            As Netanyahu said, We control the United States. That’s why “we” do it.

  58. stonned October 20, 2023 at 9:02 pm #

    “Blob” ?

    Nah.

    It’s the KOSHER NOSTRA.

    • gustafson.robert.22 October 21, 2023 at 11:26 am #

      Nice.

    • beantownbill. October 21, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

      And you’re the poisonous toad.

    • JohnAZ October 21, 2023 at 12:52 pm #

      Agreed, Biden’s response to the Israeli response to Hamas is pretty indicative of the Zionist mob’s inclusion in the global mob.

  59. tom clark October 20, 2023 at 9:04 pm #

    Speaking of money, “A million here, a million there, pretty soon you’re talking real money.” Sen. Everett Dirksen of IL once said. Only now its beyond a billion to a trillion, and somewhere along the way we stopped talking about “real money.”

    PS…I miss Dis…

    • Islander October 20, 2023 at 9:12 pm #

      “PS…I miss Dis…”

      Maybe he offended by speaking up for Palestinian children’s right not to be murdered via thirst and famine.

      Just a thought. Experiment.

      • OG October 20, 2023 at 9:49 pm #

        “I’m not sure that I like your detective work there, Isles.”

        It must’ve been something more egregious than that, lest you’d now be banned for what you have just speculated aloud. Right, Antonio Salieri?

        See, when you argued that a detective should not consider motive and opportunity when investigating crime, I knew right then that you were not cut out for this kind of work.

        Perhaps it’d be best if you focused on the production of fruit pies for the delight of the men around you. I’m sure that you’d find that their “Mmmm”s will give you incredible job satisfaction.

        ***
        Mr K is a gracious host who, in the name and the spirit of free speech, allows all manner of opinions expressed on his CFN.

        Dis obviously crossed a line and is now justly serving his time in the penalty box.

        I, too, miss his posts. I believe that he will learn his lesson and then return and make us laugh and think once again.

        • Islander October 20, 2023 at 9:56 pm #

          Blah blah blah.
          It was a test.
          So predictable!

          • OG October 20, 2023 at 11:17 pm #

            “I’m not stupid. It was … … a test! Yeah, that’s what it was – a test. I intentionally appeared to be lamely speculating sans logic. And I was just testing to see what people would do when I appeared to be speculating sans logic. Yeah. That’s what it was. So the joke’s on you, see? That’s the ticket!”
            – Antonio Salieri

            ***
            I’ll have mine a la mode, merci beaucoup.

          • Islander October 22, 2023 at 7:15 pm #

            Yep, joke’s on you, “little girl man.”

            Push de button, watch de spew.

      • Vegan Shark October 20, 2023 at 10:11 pm #

        James, if you are not already saturated with compliments, here’s another.

        You are doing what needs to be done: offering proposals for specific actions to mitigate the nightmare we are living in. That might sound like common sense, but so many dissidents can’t seem to get beyond Viewing with Alarm and militant griping.

        It’s understandable, sure. The blob (I hope that expression gains currency) occupies positions of power and influence, and seems to have already “won.” But the victory is not necessarily permanent. We need to use whatever brainpower and insights we are blessed with to devise countermeasures.

        • Paula D October 21, 2023 at 11:57 am #

          I agree. JHK is upholding the standards of decency and law that we should all uphold.

          Too many people seem to be content with decrying the end of decency and law, without hope that it can be restored. But it can, if enough people rebel against our ruling overlords, and their power and wealth grab.

    • beantownbill. October 21, 2023 at 12:32 pm #

      @tom:

      Shit, I was about to use the same quote, but you beat me to it.

  60. Islander October 20, 2023 at 9:50 pm #

    This is an excellent, quite short (>20 mins) film, Britain in Palestine, 1917 to 1948.

    With lots of wonderful vintage photos.

    httpX://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOJqLTc6RkU

    It explains a lot.

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    • Islander October 20, 2023 at 9:54 pm #

      Make that < 20 mins.

  61. OG October 21, 2023 at 12:14 am #

    Trump’s new ad is brilliant. It is called “Brainwashed.”

    twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1715126597982843301?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1715126597982843301%7Ctwgr%5Eaccce6d1e0aadc53cf753897d388aebe1dea21ff%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.infowars.com%2Fposts%2Fvideo-new-trump-ad-shows-inside-of-hillary-clintons-internment-camps-intended-to-deprogram-maga-voters%2F

    • aelpha October 21, 2023 at 11:18 am #

      A reference to these two contradictory quotes might be sufficient.

      “American leadership is what holds the world together. American alliances are what keep us, America, safe. American values are what make us a partner other nations want to work with.”

      “I am going to fundamentally change America.”

  62. Soul Forensics October 21, 2023 at 1:57 am #

    “Why even bother entering into any kind of relationship at all if you think you’re going to be screwed over, ‘cuz it’s the human condition’?

    In any case, if you have a solid foundation/solid-build-quality– think of a house– then it’s more likely that you can weather the storms, such as dubious people who might wish to inflict harm.
    But start with a shaky foundation and you’re already in trouble from the start(/’get-go’).” — Zazelle

    I actually agree with your 2nd paragraph! And so would an excellent poet:

    THE BEST PROOF
    (by Irving Layton)

    Love your neighbour
    and labour daily
    at proving
    how much you love him

    By making yourself
    so powerful
    nothing can ever
    tempt him to injure you

    • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 4:20 am #

      The second paragraph is a basic rule for relationships. If the foundation is weak, it is going to fail.

      Red flags should not be ignored. Another rule is never trust anyone that appears to have dozens of friends. They either have no judgment or they are going to fuck you over at some point.

  63. stelmosfire October 21, 2023 at 8:45 am #

    President Potatohead says, ” I have one word for Hezbollah and Iran.”

    “Don’t, Don’t, Don’t!”

    “But Mr. President, that’s more than one word.”

    “Well anyway, you know the thing, where were we?”

    • beantownbill. October 21, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

      Ha, ha.

  64. 100th Avatar October 21, 2023 at 10:04 am #

    The litmus test.
    It does not matter, the R’s the D’s.
    They bludgeon and trample the constitution with their partisan and weaponized shock troops equally.
    Given the opportunity.

    The cliche references the mask dropping. Presupposing the mask ever concealed these people.

    I personally think the J6 protesters are a gaggle of morons, but that does not mean they can be thrown into a gulag for over 3 years without trial. Where is this Cruz type showman (all hat no cattle, all sizzle no steak, talks loudly but no stick) on this issue?

    How about the open borders?
    The Ukraine war that is not a war?
    The Biden criminal organization?
    Fauci?
    Covid hoax and Pfizer?
    How about the third party (Soros, Wyss) funding of mail-in-ballots, BLM riots, Anti-fa?
    Funding the INVASION of our borders?

    But dare you protest against Israel:

    “U.S. Senator Josh Hawley (R-Mo.) sent a letter to U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland, urging the Department of Justice (DOJ) to immediately deploy resources to investigate the third-party funding of far-left student organizations that have called for the effective destruction of Israel.

    “In the wake of the brutal terrorist attacks by Hamas against Israel, we have witnessed an alarming rise in support for violence against the Jewish people,” wrote Senator Hawley. “Public reports indicate that several far-left student groups have lined up to effectively cheerlead Hamas’s genocidal war against the people of Israel.”

    “He continued, “Given the potential scale of this threat, I urge you to immediately deploy DOJ resources to investigate these organizations’ funding sources.
    The First Amendment protects the right to protest.”

    • Beryl of Oyl October 21, 2023 at 10:35 am #

      “I personally think the J6 protesters are a gaggle of morons, but that does not mean they can be thrown into a gulag for over 3 years without trial.”

      Thank you!

      As far as Hawley’s statement goes, is it possible that “the potential scale” could mean the threat to this country?

      We have experienced a major attack that had something to do with Islamists, after all.

      It’s more likely that he is pushing a tit-for -tat investigation because of what the DOJ has been doing with white conservative Christian groups, but still.

  65. Beryl of Oyl October 21, 2023 at 10:48 am #

    Back to the RFK topic, as he is running for president supposedly to fix all this.

    A short while ago I spoke to a (former) political consultant about third party runs, ahead of Bobby’s expected announcement. The conventional wisdom in political circles is that third party candidates don’t win.

    There is an article in Zero Hedge that touches the difficulties involved in such an endeavor:

    “Earlier this month, Robert F. Kennedy, Jr announced he was abandoning a Democratic Party that’s overtly hostile to his 2024 presidential campaign, choosing to run as an independent candidate instead.

    He’s already drawing a hefty 16% in three-way contest with Biden and Trump, according to a recent NPR/PBS/Marist poll. However, all the public support in the world will mean nothing unless RFK Jr can overcome a major hurdle for any independent candidate: getting his name on the ballot in 50 states and the District of Columbia.

    There’s more to that feat than gathering signatures. “It takes significant expertise to navigate specific rules for every state and the requirements needed before signatures can even begin to be collected — and then to beat back the legal challenges that will almost certainly follow,” writes Politico’s Brittany Gibson.”

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rfk-jrs-presidential-bid-hinges-ballot-access

    We all know that Bobby just gave his campaign manager, a man with vast experience in elections, the old heave-ho; or was it the other way around?

    With the difficult row to hoe described in the Zero Hedge article and the Politico article it references, Jr. has selected as his new manager a person named Amaryllis whose background is in spycraft, not campaign management.

    We all saw what happened when President Trump put his inexperienced SIL in charge of his campaign.

    Is Bobby serious? Is he crazy?

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    • elysianfield October 21, 2023 at 11:23 am #

      …Cop-out…excuse or rationalization…not doing fuck-all…subversive…part of the problem. Keep your trap shut.

      Zaz,
      Much invective. Dismissive. Bordering on the Ad Hominem. I truly expected more from you…at least an intelligent argument.

      …Apparently, the true anarchist,(freedom loving libertine amongst his peers), becomes threatened and defensive when questioned by the unwashed., and demands his silence.

      Did it ever occur to you that the mindless complity, and the eventual outrages, provides the anarchy you espouse?

      How about giving us a working definition of your Anarchist Utopia, one involving the average human, and we can discuss your thesis?

  66. Beryl of Oyl October 21, 2023 at 11:07 am #

    I looked a little further into RFK Jr.s call for reparations, and that’s what it was, no matter how he tries to spin it.

    We see the word “disproportionate” used a lot in public debate.

    I was just thinking how nice it was that in the last few Kunstler pieces, no one in the comments section felt the need to once again bring up the “disproportionate” number of black people as he relates to crime, as if that proportion, in itself, means anything at all.

    Now I see Bobby Jr. trying to use the old “disproportionate” saw to push a tired old “throw money at it” solution to a problem he doesn’t even know the causes of.

    If there are more blacks than whites living in poverty, well then, whites must have done something to cause it, right?

    There are myriad reasons to oppose these programs, which I won’t get into at this time, but here is one that Bobby should maybe try to get through his head-

    if we are going to base public policy on “proportion”, that’s a sword that cuts both ways.

    A higher proportion of blacks committing crimes? Well then, does that mean blacks owe whites something?

    Blacks are owed “reparations” because “proportion” blah blah blah.

    A higher proportion of blacks receive public benefits, and it has been that way for quite some time.

    So, based on that thinking, they’ve already had their reparations, haven’t they?

    Treating people as a group is almost always a bad thing.

    That’s a large part of the reason for the fighting in the Middle East.

    It is not the government’s place to discriminate racially.

    • Jarek October 21, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

      Blacks don’t live as long as Whites. It’s our racism of course. They don’t live as long as East Asians or Hispanics either. Neither do we all other things being equal.

      Silence. Maybe (definitely) different breeds of Homo Sapiens don’t live as long as other breeds, you know, like in dogs.

    • WadeWaters October 22, 2023 at 2:09 pm #

      Affirmative action was their reparations to my mind.

      End of story for reparations. It’s been done.

  67. 100th Avatar October 21, 2023 at 11:09 am #

    Try one might to bury it, but the truth never stops percolating.

    chrishedges.substack*dot*com/p/israels-culture-of-deceit

    The United States right behind it.
    Another bellicose state built on a foundation of lies.
    Maintained by a deep and profound network of deceit and chicanery.
    The cracks are too big to fill.
    The facade has crumbled and crashed.

    The cowards and fools are running to the dust clouds from the fallout.
    Taking cover in it. All they ever believed, and knew.

    • OG October 21, 2023 at 11:54 am #

      Yet Vegas Turkey-shoot Incident Commander [whatever the flip that is!] and FBI grad Maui PD Chief and coroner John Pelletier is 100% on the level, right Hundredth?

      Lahaina 8/8/23. American genocide of native landowners. Again.

    • beantownbill. October 21, 2023 at 12:22 pm #

      100th,

      You are so full of it that your footprints are leaking shit. You think that because your father called you son you are bright, but as I’ve recently said before, you’re nothing but a cold fart warmed over.

      Other than that, I do like you.

      • 100th Avatar October 21, 2023 at 2:21 pm #

        There’s a lot to unpack there.
        Yet all is fair.

        But please do tell us what Mr. Hedges got wrong.

        • 100th Avatar October 21, 2023 at 3:21 pm #

          zerohedge*dot*com/geopolitical/poll-finds-lackluster-desire-arm-supply-israel-even-among-gop

          We should be hearing shortly about an uptick in antisemitism.
          What else can possibly be driving Americans who do not want WWIII?

        • Socrates-Detroit October 22, 2023 at 11:17 am #

          Hedges is too truthful too often.

          That’s what he got wrong.

          American and Israeli exceptionalism can’t handle the truth.

          • Paddys Lament October 22, 2023 at 10:37 pm #

            He’s seen too much, up close and personal.

      • Soul Forensics October 21, 2023 at 3:17 pm #

        I’m waiting for the once-a-month post by Bill explaining how this board is filled with nasty name-calling, and how he wants it cleaned up (banned, IOW).

        The hypocrisy is off the charts.

        • 100th Avatar October 21, 2023 at 3:23 pm #

          Or how he wants to hear about solutions, not complaints.

          I love the idiosyncrasies, it makes the characters here very interesting.

          • beantownbill. October 21, 2023 at 3:55 pm #

            I do want to hear solutions, and I do dislike complaining, even if I do it myself. Who says I have to be consistent 100% of the time (even this statement upsets myself!)?

        • 100th Avatar October 21, 2023 at 3:29 pm #

          I do appreciate Bill’s inclusion of a classic dad joke, but the shit and farts scatology is suspiciously close to SeaDolt territory.

          • beantownbill. October 21, 2023 at 3:46 pm #

            I had guns – until I had that boating accident. Damn!

          • beantownbill. October 21, 2023 at 3:50 pm #

            Please! I apologize. Yours was the first post I read and that set me off. This comparison makes me nauseous.

          • 100th Avatar October 21, 2023 at 5:07 pm #

            I insult people here from behind a keyboard on an almost daily basis and am the least deserving of any apology.

            I make my own bed and am condemned to lie in it.

  68. Beryl of Oyl October 21, 2023 at 11:16 am #

    Bobby Jr. is complaining about “Republicans” using his old statements against him.

    “News flash! My views on many issues have evolved over my 40 years in public life, and especially over the last five years. The Republicans are digging into statements I made 5, 10, 20 years ago to paint me as an orthodox liberal.”

    https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1715443043984195618

    News flash(es) for Junior- of course they are! What did you expect?

    Trump supporters do not equal Republicans.

    That reparations plan sounds like something Bernie would come up with.

    You want to know what the “Republicans” are?

    What is one of the things that was asked of Kevin McCarthy, in order for him to remain speaker, which he failed to do?

    Why are Republicans so desperate that we not see the January 6 tapes?

    Why are YOU, Bobby, not interested in those tapes?

    Why haven’t you commented on what is happening to a former president at the hands of our justice system?

    • beantownbill. October 21, 2023 at 12:18 pm #

      Right on! I agree with you completely. The so-called 1/6 ‘insurrection’ is a sore point for me, and that’s why I’ll not vote for Trump. He could have at least said something about these American political prisoners, even if he didn’t have the ability to free them.

      And I won’t vote for Jr. because I don’t trust him. At first I didn’t trust his father either, but after following the news,I began to believe he was sincere. I don’t get that sense with Jr.

      • JohnAZ October 21, 2023 at 1:21 pm #

        So you will vote for Biden, by default? Oh my.

        • beantownbill. October 21, 2023 at 1:43 pm #

          No, JAZ, unless I have a literal gun pointed at my head, I cannot conceive of voting for Biden. You should know me better than that.

          No, I will exercise my right as a free (at least in theory) American citizen to vote for no one. Unless someone as yet unknown who I can trust to do the right things comes forward. Unfortunately, that hasn’t yet happened yet.

        • Beryl of Oyl October 21, 2023 at 1:43 pm #

          I don’t play that, John. I doubt bill does either.

          p.s. it won’t be Biden.

          • JohnAZ October 21, 2023 at 9:34 pm #

            I know. However, sometimes you have to vote against a mob, to win against an alternative that is as dangerous as anything the US has faced in the past.

            Every veteran of WW2 must be rolling in their graves watching the US evolve into what they fought against.

  69. elysianfield October 21, 2023 at 11:28 am #

    ..Cop-out…excuse or rationalization…not doing fuck-all…subversive…part of the problem. Keep your trap shut.

    Zaz,
    Much invective. Dismissive. Bordering on the Ad Hominem. I truly expected more from you…at least an intelligent argument.

    …Apparently, the true anarchist,(freedom loving libertine amongst his peers), becomes threatened and defensive when questioned by the unwashed., and demands his silence.

    Did it ever occur to you that the mindless complity, and the eventual outrages, provides the anarchy you espouse?

    How about giving us a working definition of your Anarchist Utopia, one involving the average human, and we can discuss your thesis?

    • elysianfield October 21, 2023 at 11:30 am #

      …Oh, and don’t ever quote Emma Goldman to me…ever.

  70. OG October 21, 2023 at 11:37 am #

    I gotta thank Spuds nada. His cliché stupidity upthread about holding physical is the perfect spring-board for this discussion.

    “When TSHTF, what are you gonna do? [Strawman Alert!] You’ll trade your $10,000 gold coin for a loaf of bread, ya big dummy!”

    “No I will not. You are stupid.”

    ***
    On the upside, Spuds’ stupidity does usefully bring to mind this thought: Holding physical means both Au & Ag. Au is a store of wealth while Ag is currency.

    ***
    I bought Au for $285 and it is now at $2k. And that’s, of course, with the R0thschilds monkeying with it the entire time in mechanically stealing our wealth with their “printing” of our all-seeing eye ass-wipe notes fiat that finance that trickle-down effect of the real wealth snarfed by the upper echelons of their Satanic pyramid.

    $285 to $2k and Au & Ag are WAY more valuable than the City of London & Wall Street trade them at today. Paper Au & Ag is apocalyptic multiples over actual existing physical plus real-world production as global finance became blatantly organized crime since long before the oft rumoured “bald-headed chicken-fucker” Hank Paulson rode into town.

    $285 to $2k yet everyone thinks, without so much as looking at a chart, that us “Gold tards” were wrong!

    And TS hasn’t even HTF yet!

    ***
    See how easy it is to defeat you, Spuds?

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    • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 12:16 pm #

      When you use my lines, I know the wounds are deep.

      😀

      • OG October 21, 2023 at 12:39 pm #

        After what I’ve been through, you could not wound me if you flew to Canadeau to try it, little girl.

        I’m not using your line because you wounded me. That does not even make sense.

        I’m throwing your pompous line back in your face, dipshit, after I defeated you.

        ***
        Enough about me and how right I was. Let’s talk about Au & Ag.

        >600% return. A seven-bagger!

        Tell us of the invest instruments that led to your better returns, Einstein. No ad homs, just reasonable debate … or are you just a hopeless little girl?

      • OG October 21, 2023 at 1:11 pm #

        ”Where do you take delivery of the gold or is this simply paper gold, as gold is not yours unless it is in hand or the locked safe.”
        J.Gan

        You are correct. I recommend holding physical Au & Ag. Unfortunately it is purely an academic exercise for me as crooked lawyers in Ontario stole my net worth years ago.

        My sad-sack story, however, should not deter other bright CFNers to diversify now and hold physical Au & Ag. That’s why I believe that this is an important discussion. [And I further advise all bright CFNers who do get off their duff and really do convert some of their worthless bank digits into physical to never acknowledge that they agree with me here on CFN. Tell your wife (if you must) but NOBODY else.]

        ’Good luck trading your gold nuggets to survive, Hogger. I encourage you to take this route should the shit hit the fan.’
        Spuds nada

        I don’t really get your point, little girl. Are you saying that I would be better to not have gold and silver than have gold and silver when TSHTF?

        If so, you’re stupidest person that I’ve ever discussed holding Au & Ag with. Truly. I’ve had people who don’t believe that TS will ever HTF but … your granting that … but still you …

        If so, you truly are dumber than dirt, little girl.

        If not, … what are you saying?

        • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 2:19 pm #

          Two more incoherent walls of text.

          OG is hurting bad.

          • 100th Avatar October 21, 2023 at 2:24 pm #

            He’s another kook that needs his own blog.

          • OG October 21, 2023 at 3:44 pm #

            Yet we’re all here on CFN to try and predict the future and I’m the one here with the track record that features a seven-bagger!

            The track record of one’s previous calls is, of course, the gold standard in prognosis credibility.

            ***
            You must’ve missed my question upthread, 100:

            Yet Vegas Turkey-shoot Incident Commander [whatever the flip that is!] and FBI grad Maui PD Chief and coroner John Pelletier is 100% on the level, right Hundredth?

            Either you missed it or you are a just balless mud-slinger. We’ll know which by your answer now (or lack thereof).

            Sans Testicles.

          • 100th Avatar October 21, 2023 at 5:11 pm #

            I want to catch this before Q. does:

            you forgot the comma before your closing,

            …thereof),

          • OG October 21, 2023 at 11:32 pm #

            That’s clever, Sans Testicles. I like that. Good one.

  71. beantownbill. October 21, 2023 at 1:34 pm #

    Re gold and silver:

    I’ve believed in gold and silver’s validity since 1968 or 1969.
    What makes them ultimately valuable is their relative scarcity and their multiple industrial uses, as well as their beauty. There’s something about gold’s physical characteristics that affect one’s mind.

    I don’t remember the numbers, but all the gold ever mined could fit in a certain sized room. Also a small amount of gold can be hammered into a surprisingly long flat sheet.

    Silver is needed for many uses in electronics, once was essential in photography, and was used in dentistry. It’s also relatively rare and beautiful. It is gold’s little sister.

    Both metals have been used for coinage throughout recorded history because of their inherent values and their beauty. If one wanted to, they can be melted down back into pure ore and used for other reasons.

    Copper, platinum and other metals have many uses too, but gold and silver, I believe, has hypnotic qualities that make them wanted by cultures around the world.

    Ultimately, in an economic collapse, the dollar which now has nothing backing it except the good faith of the US government (!!!) will have no value, unless science comes up with some unique industrial uses for paper. Barter will become the most important factor in the economy. This is where gold and silver come in – as a measure for determining value.

    • elysianfield October 21, 2023 at 1:52 pm #

      Bill,
      Considering the “good faith” of the US government, do you entertain the idea that the government would, in times of need, call in all gold and silver bullion for hard currency to meet international demands? Make it illegal to own?

      …Been done before….

      • OG October 21, 2023 at 2:01 pm #

        Better to negotiate that hurdle with a trunk full of gold. No sense mousing until you need to.

        • elysianfield October 21, 2023 at 2:09 pm #

          Arguable.

          • OG October 21, 2023 at 2:15 pm #

            How so?

          • elysianfield October 21, 2023 at 5:28 pm #

            OG,
            If you have all your metaphorical eggs in one basket, a trunk full of gold, you would most likely not comply. The pressure would be great to ignore the law.

          • OG October 21, 2023 at 11:30 pm #

            First of all, I do not advocate putting all your eggs in one basket. I advise that CFNers diversify and have some Au & Ag.

            ***
            Your argument is basically: “They are going to completely take over our lives so you had better comply lest you get caught.”

            Fuck that!

          • elysianfield October 22, 2023 at 12:20 am #

            OG,
            No, that is not my argument. MY argument is that there are few safe havens, and there is risk in keeping gold.

            If I had a monster gun collection, and I invested in this collection as a hedge, I would be worried in this political climate. Same thing.

          • OG October 22, 2023 at 12:57 am #

            I’m not picking up the difference between my characterization of your argument and your argument.

            I believe that you’re saying, “I’m not going to buy and hide physical gold and silver because they might find and confiscate it from me in our draconian future.”

            I don’t see the risk. If they would confiscate your property, your wealth, then all bets are off anyway (regardless of whether you actually own some or not).

      • beantownbill. October 21, 2023 at 2:04 pm #

        Ef,

        Absolutely. If you nave gold and silver, don’t let the street and government know.

        Hey, government, if you’re reading this, I don’t own any gold or silver.

        • elysianfield October 21, 2023 at 2:10 pm #

          Yeah…and I don’t own any guns….

          • beantownbill. October 21, 2023 at 3:45 pm #

            I had guns – until I had that boating accident. Damn!

        • OG October 21, 2023 at 2:14 pm #

          “Exactamundo.”
          – Arthur Fonzarelli

          ***
          This discussion board is for entertainment purposes only. Nobody here would actually really convert some of their ledger digits in the R0thschilds’ banking system for physical Au &/or Ag.

          That’s crazy talk!

          • elysianfield October 21, 2023 at 2:46 pm #

            OG,
            Entertainment only, and for the protection of disease….

        • Soul Forensics October 21, 2023 at 3:43 pm #

          “If you nave gold and silver, don’t let the street and government know.” — Bill

          Bill’s naive brain can’t fathom that the feds won’t reply to one saying they have no gold with, “Oh, OK, no sweat then. Have a good day!”

          “And I’ll come knockin’
          Knockin’ door to door,
          The feeling in my head is like all out war,
          All out war,
          third world war.”

          — Rory Gallagher

          Where are you gonna hide it? Another country’s bank? Maybe Switzerland? Good luck with the physical transfer when TSHTF. Your quiet aunt’s attic? It’s also on World Google Maps. Those new pesky, armed IRS agents are just in the initial expansionist stages of recruitment.

          And after TSHTF? For trading? Yeah, in a limited capacity. But that presupposes that many others have gold, otherwise why would anyone trade you their valuable bird-in-the-hand loaf of bread for an attractive mineral lump that they don’t have any confidence in unloading themselves for their own valuable needs outside of bread (string, ammo, meds, other foodstuffs, access to a well, etc etc)?

          Gold (and silver) are toast as future monetary options. The world, unless it reverts to JHK’s world made by hand in international hardscrabble work, and with considerably fewer numbers, will need some sort of technical component for speed, efficiency, safety, and scalability.

          I tend to favour Bitcoin, and it has an impeccable record of protection to this point. But, in a free-for-all future, the test for it won’t come from sophisticated hackers, but from fed agencies who’ll crank up the lone bulb, good-cop-bad-cop grilling in a cold cell after five sleepless nights.

          CBDCs are the future unless the entire WEF network is fractured, dismantled, and destroyed. The particulars of that are anyone’s guess, but it’s still doable.

          • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 3:58 pm #

            You are going to make their brains explode, Soul.

          • beantownbill. October 21, 2023 at 3:59 pm #

            I was joking for Christ’s sake!

          • OG October 21, 2023 at 4:09 pm #

            Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

            Gold & Silver will always have value. Even with no electricity. Can BitChute say that?

            Gold & Silver can be quickly and easily exchanged for goods & services in an alleyway or a barn. Can BitChute say that?

            ***
            “Gee, they might confiscate it from me sometime in the future so what’s the use of even trying? I might as well just curl up and die.”

            ***
            In the meantime, it’s been that rarest of all investments: the seven-bagger.

          • OG October 21, 2023 at 4:57 pm #

            You are going to make their brains explode, Soul.

            No, little girl. We are here for debate.

          • Soul Forensics October 21, 2023 at 5:38 pm #

            “Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.” — OG

            The first part of your chiasmus is inapplicable because “having it” doesn’t happen in a vacuum. You’re purchasing gold. So if you don’t “need it”, you’ve wasted your precious (until now) money in obtaining it. Money that could have been put to better use in a number of ways.

            “Gold & Silver will always have value. Even with no electricity. Can BitChute say that?” — OG

            Your first statement is an obvious generality. Not helpful. The real question is how valuable it will be. I’ve already argued this point.

            Your second statement is confusing. BitChute? You’re directly comparing a precious metal with a political website?

            “Gold & Silver can be quickly and easily exchanged for goods & services in an alleyway or a barn. Can BitChute say that?”

            (Again with the Bitchute?)

            Do you honestly think that you’re going to get dependable exchange value with some stranger in an alleyway? Visions of drug deals going badly come to mind. How do measure, in this instance, the very real worry of gold adulteration (for the receiver)? Do you carry a portable scale with you at all times? (And how is the lighting in the back alley in order to get a proper reading of it?) How is the goods provider able to safely negotiate his/her way to a back alley with his valuable commodity (especially if the items are big (rifles, roofing equipment and materials, etc) without being followed?

            If you want to argue against Bitcoin here (and please remember that I’m not suggesting Bitcoin is the ironclad answer, either, so don’t make this into an either/or option), the advantage with Bitcoin is that it’s vastly superior as to divisibility, anonymity, avoidance of detection, and certainly scalability re transactional volume, speed, and visibility of purchase availability.

            You also keep bragging about it being a 7-bagger. This is irrelevant, especially in light of your statement that gold’s worth lies in its long-term store of value. As you know, temporal changes in gold-to-dollar rates are always changing, and will continue to do so.

            Again, if you want to contrast that angle with Bitcoin, since your “7-bagger” of gold, Bitcoin has been about a 25,000 bagger, which slightly dwarfs the comparative ratio vis-a-vis gold. I emphasize that I’m not saying this to brag that Bitcoin is — because of this — far superior to gold, only that using an arbitrary beginning- and end-point to pump up gold’s value isn’t impressive.

            The question remains: what means of exchangeable system will even be in place. Perhaps no money at all! If you don’t have actual goods to trade, you might be outta luck. And if you happen to escape fed notice that you have any gold (highly doubtful), it’s only value might be as something to use industrially, in building, i.e.

          • GreenAlba October 21, 2023 at 6:05 pm #

            “Do you honestly think that you’re going to get dependable exchange value with some stranger in an alleyway?”

            Seems to me that what is dependable is that the stranger in the alleyway has someone nearby who’s going to follow you home.

            I don’t have any silver or gold. But I have recollections of Dmitry Orlov saying that when the USSR fell apart, everyone knew at least one old lady who was bashed over the head with a blunt instrument and robbed of her purse (which is not a handbag, in British parlance), either in her own house – they’d wait for her to get home – or in the street. Or, presumably, in an alleyway.

            “But I’ve got silver in the stars,
            And gold in the morning sun.”

            That’ll have to do me. When my time is up, it’s up.

          • OG October 21, 2023 at 11:24 pm #

            The fall of the USSR is a perfect case study, GA, thanks.

            What, do you think, that these opportunistic criminals craved the most from their crimes? Rubles? Stock certificates? Bitcoin wallets?

            Nope. Gold and silver. D’uh!

          • elysianfield October 22, 2023 at 11:44 am #

            “recollections of Dmitry Orlov saying that when the USSR fell apart, everyone knew at least one old lady who was bashed over the head with a blunt instrument and robbed of her purse”

            Alba,
            You DO know that they caught the guy that did the robbery”

            His name was Raskolnikov…..

          • Paula D October 22, 2023 at 12:20 pm #

            Humans are amazingly capable of destroying their environment, even before fossil fuels were discovered, kicking the processs into high gear.

            The 49er’s managed to bury and destroy the oyster beds in the San Francisco Bay, long before the massive mining machines now used, that destroy entire mountains, and the streams and valleys below.
            They did it by hand, one gold pan washing at a time. The dirt that flowed into the bay was enough to completely destroy the oyster population of the bay, forever.

            Gold mining is now done by giant corporations, and any humans harmed by it can be smashed, and are.

            Anyone who opposes the WEF takeover of the planet can look to El Salvador for an example of how corporate interests trump human interests.

            The government of El Salvador voted to stop mining corporations from destroying mountains, rivers, and the tribes that lived in those mountains.
            A Canadian corporation sued El Salvador for loss of potential profits.
            Under the CAFTA rules (a smaller version of the WTO and WEF), corporations can sue nations, if those nations put the interests of their people ahead of corporate profits.

            The suit goes to a private court, controlled by the corporations, not public courts.
            The private courts rule in favor of the corporations. What a shock!!!!!

            So El Salvador, an impoverished country, was ordered to pay the Canadian gold mine millions.

            The same process is going on in other Latin American countries, for instance, Bolivia and Ecuador.

            You thought the days of the conquistadors are over?
            Ha!
            They now have trade treaties and death squads backing them up, instead of swords and priests.

            org/news/salvadoran-anti-mining-activists-risk-their-lives-taking-%E2%80%98free-trade%E2%80%99

          • GreenAlba October 22, 2023 at 5:21 pm #

            EF: He was even saved by the love of a good woman. 🙂

            But that doesn’t bring old ladies back. Having said that, that particular old lady wasn’t one who elicited much sympathy, as I recall. Even nice old ladies will be whacked with blunt instruments when people are hungry.

    • OG October 21, 2023 at 1:55 pm #

      I’ve heard that all the gold produced ever would fit in an Olympic swimming pool but I don’t know how accurate that is.

      Au & Ag are the perfect money. Durable, divisible, fungible, rare, difficult to mine (unlike Bitcoin), solid, tangible, etc.

      Au & Ag have always been wealth and currency. For millennia. These past 52 years of R0thschilds’ fiat ass-wipe have been the anomaly.

      • Soul Forensics October 21, 2023 at 3:58 pm #

        Gold can be lost, stolen, and confiscated.

        Gold is an inefficient means of transaction in a hyper-speedy, hyper-streamlined world.

        Gold is not fungible. The exact value of gold, in the future, will be wildly inaccurate as to market pricing.

        Gold is difficult to divide accurately, unless you want to pay a premium (and those premiums will go through the roof if the mineral becomes more tradable) for exact divisions, as, e.g., with the gold eagle.

        Gold is difficult to mine, yes. But I’d hardly call that a benefit. I think most would agree that environmental destruction of gold is a problem, and has been for a long time. Like oil, gold extraction is becoming more difficult, the technological sophistication needed astronomical, just to eke out a few flakes from a speculative stake, afterwards leaving a tragic wake of deforestation, water table damage, desertification, pollution, poison, species extinction, aesthetic ruination, and disruption of indigenous peoples. Of course, add silver mining, copper, nickel, etc to that list, as well.

        • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 4:11 pm #

          The other thing that is getting misunderstood is that when some advise putting some personal wealth into gold, this is not as a means for surviving in a collapse. It is a means for protecting some amount of wealth in the long term.

          The reality is that if we are exchanging paper currency, precious stones, etc., there has to be a system in place where we all agree on a value and can then exchange the currency in question for things of real value, meaning food, shelter, etc.

          • OG October 21, 2023 at 4:33 pm #

            Au is a store of wealth. It has always been the Number One store of wealth. It always will be the Number One store of wealth. There is no misunderstanding.

            Au for big items (a cow, a plow, a dozen chickens) and Ag for small items (a hamburger, a loaf of bread, a dozen eggs).

        • OG October 21, 2023 at 4:29 pm #

          1) Of course Au & Ag can be lost, stolen and confiscated. Same with a can of beans or a bag of rice.

          2) Yes, Au & Ag are inefficient means of transaction in a hyper-speedy, hyper-streamlined world but stocks and bonds are even worse in this regard, for that matter. This is a red-herring here, though, as we discuss TSHTF.

          3) Apparently you do not know what fungible even means.

          4) Gold is not currency. Gold is a store of wealth. Although it can be melted and subdivided, it is for wealth storage and transfer (i.e. to buy a horse or an acre). Silver is currency for smaller purchases. Both Au & Ag will be important after TSHTF. Don’t confuse them.

          5) You argue against yourself in your last point. Gold and silver being difficult to mine is its strength. It has kep Supply/Demand in check for millennia because nobody can just “print” or key-stroke more of it. It is finite. And the environmental damage is a red-herring as we discuss the value of Au & Ag after TSHTF but it is indicative of how truly valuable it is deemed (even at these artificially suppressed prices).

          • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 6:07 pm #

            Another two walls of moronic text.

        • beantownbill. October 21, 2023 at 4:34 pm #

          @SF (science fiction?):

          And much of any other thing we do doesn’t affect the environment?

          The point is, g & s are an insurance policy. So far,TS hasn’t HTF, so bitcoin works, sort of. But it’s pretty energy wasteful. I kind of think it’s going ultimately the way of fully electric vehicles. You don’t have energy depletion yet, so people drive Teslas, but I think they too are doomed. Score one for JHK.

          Do you have your money in bitcoin or own an electric car? Just wondering.

          • Soul Forensics October 21, 2023 at 5:47 pm #

            Bill,

            Your knowledge of Bitcoin is non-existent, and I’m not going to educate you on it here. It would take a few days, and I know exactly the “yeah but …” replies to follow, all of which I’d have to expand upon even further.

            In short, your comparison of Bitcoin with electric cars doesn’t compute. The latter don’t even work now, for many reasons.

            I don’t discuss my financial holdings or strategies on line. Call me paranoid, but that’s that.

      • stelmosfire October 21, 2023 at 4:00 pm #

        All the gold ever mined would fit in a cube 22 meters on a side or 10,648 cubic meters. An Olympic pool is approx. 3125 cubic meters so around 3 pools worth. Weighs about half of what the Empire State building weighs.

        httpx://www.visualcapitalist.com/sp/chart-how-much-gold-is-in-the-world/

        • OG October 21, 2023 at 4:34 pm #

          Three Olympic swimming pools. Thanks!

    • malthuss October 21, 2023 at 4:57 pm #

      I don’t remember the numbers, but all the gold ever mined could fit in a certain sized room.

      A FOOTBALL FIELDS WORTH? I dont know tonnage what that is.

  72. OG October 21, 2023 at 1:44 pm #

    Hey Heckler, How about those Wolf Pack?

    theahl.com/stats/standings

  73. Jarek October 21, 2023 at 1:54 pm #

    If students succeed in learning to read and do basic math, they may be able to get jobs and become independent. That means they won’t need Governor Brown and other such childless ladies anymore. That thought is unbearable to the ladies.

    George Floyd is a Christ figure. When are the Pasion Plays going to begin – the sacred reenactments of his death? He called out for his mommy in those last seconds. Countless White women responded, inwardly if not always outwardly.

  74. beantownbill. October 21, 2023 at 2:00 pm #

    The price of gold and silver has been manipulated by those who have an interest in keeping g&s’s prices down.

    Many financial experts say one should keep 10% of their assets in precious metals. I agree.

    To my mind, the very best assets to have in a breakdown scenario are things that people want and need like extra food, water purifiers, matches, cigarettes, liquor, heating material like firewood, gasoline or coal, firearms and ammo, knives and anything else that would be desirable. It takes a lot of thinking and gets real complicated. Safety is an important factor. There’s literally an encyclopedia’s worth of knowledge one must have.

    • OG October 21, 2023 at 2:09 pm #

      You do what you can and then you put your faith and your fate in God’s mighty hands.

    • TPTB-USA October 22, 2023 at 1:29 pm #

      “The price of gold and silver has been manipulated by those who have an interest in keeping g&s’s prices down.” ~ beantownbill

      If you pay $2,000 for an ounce of gold, shouldn’t you be able to sell it back for $2,000 an ounce?

      If you could make money by buying gold in one country and selling it in another, would you do it?

      If you could reduce the risk of POG volatility associated with a loan to a gold miner, would you do it by selling the production forward?

      Where is your proof that prices are being manipulated?

  75. SoftStarLight October 21, 2023 at 3:55 pm #

    “a weird cabal alien to our heritage”

    I feel that way about it too and sometimes refer to it as an occupation government. The blob is an entity. I imagine a ginormous and hideous creature with tentacles, like from a Lovecraft tale. And the creature has many human? worshippers. They are indeed religious zealots. The blob’s will is their jihad. And they’re apocalyptic too because they think the blob is the end of history. Not to speak of all the other religions out there and reasons for swords. You’re right, it is gonna get really stormy.

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    • SteveK9 October 21, 2023 at 4:04 pm #

      Blob == ZOG

      • beantownbill. October 21, 2023 at 4:39 pm #

        = the folly of Jew-haters.

        • malthuss October 21, 2023 at 4:58 pm #

          turn that round..the folly of Israel first christians.

          • SoftStarLight October 22, 2023 at 3:13 pm #

            ?

    • Groundhog October 21, 2023 at 4:45 pm #

      There was a sci-fi movie made in the 50’s that scared hell out of me when I was a child watching “Quatermas II” on tv. It’s all about alien blobs from outer space taking over planet earth. Problem is these giant malevolent blobs came from a planet with ammonia and methane atmospheres. So they are coming here but first infect humans with a sort of mental illness that compells the humans to first build and maintain special industrial facilities for the blobs to live and to be fed. Blob’s gotta grow ya know. This movie approaches Lovecraft in terms of wierdness.

      Place the h teepee s colon stuff in front of

      youtu.be/rbnm6Qh_kak

      • Groundhog October 21, 2023 at 4:47 pm #

        The Quatermass II sci-fi movie is free to watch on you tube. It’s an old classic.

        • OG October 21, 2023 at 4:59 pm #

          This looks like fun, GH. Thanks!

        • SoftStarLight October 22, 2023 at 3:23 pm #

          Yes, very interesting. Thank you for sharing!

  76. beantownbill. October 21, 2023 at 4:16 pm #

    At least gold and silver coins are always extant. They’ve been around since 3,000 or 3,500 BC.

    Bitcoin IS a modern invention, but it hasn’t been tested during real hard times yet. I don’t remember what happened to it in 2008-2010, but that was nowhere near a full-blown depression imo.

    I imagine what will happen to bitcoin when collapse occurs and it won’t be pretty.

    Sorry, but I’ll take 5,000 years over what, 20?

    • Groundhog October 21, 2023 at 4:34 pm #

      All modern high tech entities such as bitcoin that depend entirely on electricity – well – such things vanish into thin air when unplugged or denied power due to a broken electric grid. Everyone is concerned these days about AI taking everything over. Not with a broken and unreliable electric system.

      • OG October 21, 2023 at 4:47 pm #

        BINGO!

      • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 6:10 pm #

        The electric grid in the areas they plan to control initially will not be broken.

        That is what 15-minute cities are laying the groundwork for.

        This doesn’t happen overnight, and you are very short-sighted.

        • OG October 21, 2023 at 11:00 pm #

          Gold & silver are our best chance at freedom, little girl. You are the one who is short-sighted.

          • Night Owl October 22, 2023 at 3:52 am #

            Gold and silver are not freedom. Freedom is skills and community.

            I

          • elysianfield October 22, 2023 at 11:38 am #

            OG,
            Our best chance at freedom? What of the vast majority of the unwashed that has no gold/silver? No freedom for them?

            I expect the great unwashed, however, to have collected lead. Some of us…I mean them, probably a lot.

    • OG October 21, 2023 at 4:46 pm #

      Bitcoin was the first cryptocurrency created and is now the most valuable and well known. It was first launched in January 2009 by a computer programmer or group of programmers under the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto, whose actual identity has never been verified.

      Bitcoin came into being after the ’08 Hank-Paulson looting of the Treasury. 5,000 years or 15?

      ***
      “Yes, I want to buy your cow. What is your Bitcoin transactional details?”

      “My … what? Get the fuck out of here!”

      ***
      Note: I can neither confirm nor deny the oft repeated rumours that Hank Paulson is “a bald-headed chicken-fucker.”

      • Night Owl October 21, 2023 at 6:15 pm #

        Hogg Man: “I want to buy your cow with this droplet of gold I melted down.”

        Farmer: “Get the fuck out here, Canadian doughlet. I have most of what I need, and you cant eat or build a roof out of a two microns of gold.”

        Hogg Man: “But they told me I’d survive. Fuck you, little girl! You pot of mashed potatoes! [begins punching himself in the front hole]”

        • OG October 21, 2023 at 10:45 pm #

          Gold is for wealth storage, you moron. You can’t seem to wrap your little-girl head around the simple fact that 1-ounce gold coins stay that way. You don’t melt 1-ounce gold coins to make change!

          Wow! You’re dumb!

          ***
          Why would he call me a “Canadian doughnut” when we’re both Canadian?

          Why would I call him a “little girl”? Do you think it is just a mindless insult dished willy-nilly? It’s not. I only call men acting like little girls “little girl,” little girl.

          • OG October 22, 2023 at 12:00 am #

            Au melts at 1945F. Ag melts at 1763F. One needs specialized equipment and expertise to melt Au & Ag.

            While it is possible, let’s cease this red-herring talk of melting gold & silver 1-ounce coins, ok?

          • Night Owl October 22, 2023 at 3:50 am #

            All you are doing now is reversing your claim and pretending that what I said is what you said.

            Just as you did with ISIS above.

            You are an absolute nut.

          • stelmosfire October 22, 2023 at 8:58 am #

            OG, I’ve got a piece of shit 10 dollar Bernz-o-matic propane torch that runs at about 2500F. It will melt any gold or silver coin you put in front of it. If that’s what you call specialized equipment I call BS on yer hyperbole

      • Soul Forensics October 21, 2023 at 6:38 pm #

        LOL!

        Also, like most people who opine on Bitcoin, OG has no idea of what it is or how it works.

        One doesn’t give their code details to anyone when transacting with Bitcoin, just as they don’t get those details from the other.

        • elysianfield October 21, 2023 at 7:54 pm #

          LOL,
          I have no dog in this particular fight, no standing, if you will. However, one would be foolish not to believe that the NSA DOES have an idea how it works, where it works, and for whom. I find it incredibly naive that those proponents of Bitcoin would not understand that the US government will bridge NO competition for the US dollar.

          Even if the power stays on, which is arguable.

          Code details? It is to laugh…. Who do you think was the driving force for the development of the Super Computers since their inception? You DO know that the government now requires Bitcoin users to outline their trades on their 1040’s?

          Under penalty of law.

          • Soul Forensics October 21, 2023 at 10:06 pm #

            “Code details? It is to laugh.”

            I’m talking about the day-to-day details (not) shared by the parties of the transaction, typically between a retail outlet and a customer. If you want to speculate on the Feds’ involvement, that’s another discussion altogether.

            Suffice it to say that for now, the only breach in security with someone owning Bitcoin is occasionally from some idiot who leaves their transactional details at a third-party middleman site. Those who do so get what they deserve. Buyer beware, and all that.

        • OG October 21, 2023 at 10:53 pm #

          Correction, SF. I do know what Bitcoin is and marginally understand how block chains work. I do not know the mechanics of how to transact with Bitcoin as I’ve never done so.

          Regardless, you’ve completely missed the point. In my scenario, somehow I have to pay the guy with my Bitcoins for his cow, right?

          Regardless of the Bitcoin transaction mechanics that I don’t know (and don’t plan to learn), he’d still tell me to “beat it” and I’d still be stuck with Bitcoins that I can’t eat.

          • Soul Forensics October 21, 2023 at 11:32 pm #

            OG,

            One main purpose of Bitcoin is to circumvent the necessity for physical transaction of the means of exchange, in this case actual Bitcoins.

            Unlike your apt example of paper gold certificates, which can more easily be manipulated, skimmed by middlemen, and devalued by centralized banks, Bitcoin is conducted almost entirely on the block chain. It is completely decentralized — no one has access to your code or other details of personal identification, not even the Feds, contrary to EFs mockery, and who also has no idea of the history of Bitcoin and its operations. (By the way, I find it interesting that the Feds are now finally buying Bitcoin.)

            All this presupposes, of course, that the interwebz are still functioning, though, as Night Owl points out, that’s likely to continue for quite a while since TPTB need, and will continue to need, digital communication to be efficient and speedy to craft their utopian 15 minute cities’ tracking and financial movements.

            Your farmer’s “fuck you” example is in play if Bitcoin doesn’t get a foothold with many people. But when the dollar crashes, other means of exchange will rush in to fill the vacuum. The WEF, of course, wants CBDCs, others want gold and silver, still others want Bitcoin, and others think a basket of cryptos will work (total non-starter). Or maybe it’s barter, or labour for basic foodstuffs.

            Again, I’m not pimping for Bitcoin. I prefer that option, but have no more (or less) insight than anyone else on how it will play out.

            The only way gold will be a source of trade is if JHK’s back to the future is in play. But that would mean centralized gov’ts evaporate, and the world looks unrecognizable to what it is now. In that case, gold would have its uses, but a million scenarios, most of which we have no clue about, would have to align, as well.

          • OG October 21, 2023 at 11:44 pm #

            You are completely over-looking the black market, SF. When everything collapses, the black market thrives. When everything collapses everyone (Bitcoin wallet or not, electricity or not) will accept gold & silver as they have done for millennia.

            ***
            In prison, inmates who do not smoke still trade cigarettes as currency. Every prisoner will accept cigarettes as payment.

            Most farmers will not accept Bitcoins while every farmer will accept gold & silver coins.

          • Groundhog October 22, 2023 at 12:47 pm #

            “The only way gold will be a source of trade is if JHK’s back to the future is in play. But that would mean centralized gov’ts evaporate, and the world looks unrecognizable to what it is now. In that case, gold would have its uses, but a million scenarios, most of which we have no clue about, would have to align, as well.”

            Gold as a source of trade? Before the New Deal confiscated gold most everyone was carrying the stuff around in their pockets when going out and about to make some large purchases. Let’s say in year 1900 you are a local farmer with some large orchards and during harvest season each week you harness up a couple horses and take to town a wagon load of apples, peaches, pears, etc. After selling your produce to various markets in town you might arrive back home with some gold in your pocket or purse. Or you instead used that gold to make a purchase for farm supplies to take back on the return trip. If you have too much gold in your pockets and at home and you might put some away for safe keeping at the locally owned small town bank.

            As an older child able to mow lawns for spending money in the late 50’s, I used loose silver coins in my pocket for buying gasoline, candy, and soft drinks for getting through a hot Saturday afternoon of mowing yards. One silver quarter in my pocket would purchase a gallon of gas. A penny would buy a big wad of double bubble chewing gum. I didn’t need a wallet for buying stuff at the gas station and little store some blocks away within walking distance. The change in my pocket would do. But that change was real silver not the fake plated silver money of today. Today just about everything around us is fake, phoney, and mostly useless – like the fake plated coins in our pockets.

      • BackRowHeckler October 21, 2023 at 8:57 pm #

        OG the Wolf Pack start