Message from Sponsor: McAlvany ICA

Visit this blog’s sponsor: https://icagoldcompany.com/

 

Support JHK on Patreon

 

If you’re interested in supporting this blog, check out the Patreon page.


Attention Movie Producers!
JHK’s screenplay in hard-copy edition

Click to order!

A Too-Big-To-Fail Bankster…
Three Teenagers who bring him down…
Gothic doings on a Connecticut Estate.
High velocity drama!


Now Live on Amazon

“Simply the best novel of the 1960s”


Now in Paperback !
Only Seven Bucks!
JHK’s Three-Act Play
A log mansion in the Adirondack Mountains…
A big family on the run…
A nation in peril…


Long Emergency Cafe Press ad 2

Get your Official JHK swag on Cafe Press


The fourth and final book of the World Made By Hand series.

Harrow_cover_final

Battenkill Books (autographed by the Author) |  Northshire Books Amazon


CFNKindle


emb of Riches Thumbnail

JHK’s lost classic now reprinted as an e-book
Kindle edition only


 

Clusterfuck Nation
For your reading pleasure Mondays and Fridays

Support this blog by visiting Jim’s Patreon Page


An eerie silence cloaked the political landscape this lovely fall weekend as the soldiers in this (so far) administrative civil war scrambled for position in the next round of skirmishes. Rep. Adam Schiff fell back on the preposterous idea that he might not produce his “whistleblower” witness at all in the (so far) hypothetical impeachment proceeding. He put that one out after running a similarly absurd idea up the flagpole: that his “whistleblower” might just testify by answering written questions. I was waiting for him to offer up testimony by Morse code, carrier pigeon, or smoke signals.

Of course, the effort to “protect” the “whistleblower” has been a juke all along. For one thing, he-she-it is not a “whistleblower” at all; was only labeled that via legalistic legerdemain to avoid revealing the origin of this affair as a CIA cover-your-ass operation. Did Mr. Schiff actually think he could conceal this figure’s identity in a senate impeachment trial, when it came to that — for what else is impeachment aimed at? Anonymous sources are not admissible under American due process of law. Mr. Schiff must have missed that class in law school.

All of this hocus-pocus suggests to me that there is no “whistleblower,” that it is a phantom confabulation of gossip threads that unraveled the moment Mr. Trump released the transcript of his phone call to Ukraine’s president Zelensky, aborting Mr. Schiff’s game plan. The ensuing weeks of congressional Keystone Kops buffoonery since then appears to conceal a futile effort by Mr. Schiff and his confederates to find some fall guy willing to pretend that he-she-it is the “whistleblower.” He might as well ask for a volunteer to gargle with Gillette Blue Blades on NBC’s Meet the Press.

One marvels at Rep. Schiff’s tactical idiocy. But just imagine the panicked consternation it must be triggering among his Democratic colleagues. Notice that Mrs. Pelosi has been hiding out during this latest phase of the action. She may sense that there is nothing left to do but allow Mr. Schiff to twist slowly slowly in the wind, as he has hung himself out to dry. She should have known better since every previous declaration of conclusive evidence by Mr. Schiff over the past three years has proved to be false, knowingly and mendaciously so.

One also clearly senses that all the smoke-and-mirrors are a desperate attempt to divert attention from a soon-to-drop DOJ Inspector General’s report which, by the way, will only be an overture to much more damaging action likely to come from Mr. Barr’s proceeding. After all, IG Horowitz was not allowed under the rules to compel the testimony of persons outside the Department of Justice, which would now include Andrew McCabe, James Comey, and many others at the center of the RussiaGate prank.

That also includes the probable chief pranksters, former CIA head John Brennan and James Clapper, former Director of National Intelligence, the midwives of RussiaGate. The pair have been running around on cable news with both their hair and their pants on fire in recent weeks. Back in March, before the Mueller Report flopped, and when Mr. Barr was commissioned to look into all the RussiaGate shenanigans, Mr. Brennan comically claimed that he “received bad information and suspected there was more than there actually was.”

That lame admission will not avail to protect him or the CIA, an agency that is behind the administrative civil war. It has been a rogue agency for a long long time, but may have finally overplayed its hand, along with the newer adjunct agencies that have been stitched onto it since 9/11/01 — the dark network that goes by the name Intelligence Community. So many shoes are ready to drop on them that the din might drown out all the John Philip Sousa marches ever played in the lobby at Langley, let alone the thin trilling of a fake whistleblower.

Apart from these fateful developments the prize for the week’s most transparently disingenuous bit of media agitprop goes to Saturday’s New York Times puff piece on former FBI Director Jim Comey, which actually sets him up for federal indictment on something like sedition or treason. Get a load of this:

James Comey plans to spend the next 13 months working to drive President Trump from power.

Did you notice that the photo-caption states: James Comey plans to spend the next 13 months working to drive President Trump from power. Oh, really? By what means, exactly? Single-handedly or with whom? And how did the strategy he kicked off in 2016 work out? In case Mr. Barr is looking for some way to attribute motive to the actions that he’s investigating, he may need to seek no further. Also, consider that The New York Times and its editor-in-chief Dean Baquet, and publisher A.G. Sulzberger may be named as unindicted co-conspirators in the three-year campaign of sedition (freedom of the press, of course). Alert the shareholders.


This blog is sponsored this week by McAlvany ICA. To learn more visit: //icagoldcompany.com/


Previously Unpublished!
From the Jeff Greenaway Series

At Ponsonby Hall, a new Hampshire prep school for screw-ups, things are far from all right.
“Audaciously hilarious”
$7.00 — Cheap! Buy!
(Read Excerpt)

 

Something Strange is going on at Camp Timahoe in Lost Indian, Vermont, summer of 1962.
Rollicking fun
$7.50 — Cheap! Buy!
(Read Excerpt)

New Paintings by JHK 2016 — 2017


Great Summer Reading… JHK’s Hippie Novel!

“Simply the best novel about the 1960s.”

Read the first chapter here (click) on Patreon
Buy the book at Amazon or click on the cover below
or get autographed copies from Battenkill Books


Now in Paperback !
Only Seven Bucks!

JHK’s Three-Act Play
A log mansion in the Adirondack Mountains…
A big family on the run…
A nation in peril…


Other Books by JHK
The World Made By Hand Series:

Book 1:
World Made by Hand
Book 2:
The Witch of Hebron
Buy World Made By Hand Signed and local from Battenkill BooksBuy World Made By Hand on AmazonBuy World Made By Hand at Northshire Books Buy The Witch of Hebron signed and local from Battenkill BooksBuy The Witch of Hebron on AmazonBuy The Witch of Hebron at Northshire Books
Book 3:
A History of the Future
Book 4:
Harrows of Spring
Signed and local from Battenkill BooksAvailable on AmazonAvailable at Northshire Books Signed and local from Battenkill BooksAvailable on AmazonAvailable at Northshire Books
Geography of Nowhere The Long Emergency
Available on Kindle Buy The Long Emergency signed and local from Battenkill BooksBuy The Long Emergency on AmazonBuy The Long Emergency at Northshire Books

Support this blog by visiting Jim’s Patreon Page

About James Howard Kunstler

View all posts by James Howard Kunstler
James Howard Kunstler is the author of many books including (non-fiction) The Geography of Nowhere, The City in Mind: Notes on the Urban Condition, Home from Nowhere, The Long Emergency and the four-book series of World Made By Hand novels, set in a post economic crash American future. His most recent book is Living in the Long Emergency; Global Crisis, the Failure of the Futurists, and the Early Adapters Who Are Showing Us the Way Forward. Jim lives on a homestead in Washington County, New. York, where he tends his garden and communes with his chickens.

722 Responses to “Wait For It” Subscribe

  1. Neon Vincent October 14, 2019 at 10:11 am #

    Happy Canadian Thanksgiving to you and your readers! After reading your essay, I decided that if I wanted to see farcical misadventures of politicians, I’d re-watch “Veep.” It would be funnier and make more sense.

    • FallenHero October 14, 2019 at 10:20 am #

      Do you just wait up each monday so you can be first in line to spam a link to your blog?

      • DuckandCover October 14, 2019 at 10:53 am #

        Yes he does. Usually he is more clever with his connections to the current essay than he was today. Just an off day. He’ll be better Friday.

        • K-Dog October 14, 2019 at 9:15 pm #

          It is a long tradition, decades long. The Neon Sensi has been around long enough to be part of the furniture. And myself, that is about all I have to say today too.

          Seattle news over the weekend was about 3 raccoons locking themselves in a woman’s car and shredding the interior. Good to know that nothing serious happened in the world. Nothing in Ecuador Syria or Minneapolis.

          K-Dog supports the Kurds. The indigenous of the global south and people in Minneapolis with brains.

          MAGA FAGA

          I’m wondering if anything matters as it appears nobody knows what time it is.

          • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 9:22 am #

            And what time is it?

  2. Nightowl October 14, 2019 at 10:18 am #

    I like the addition of the toys in Comey’s photo.

    He can’t stop what is coming though.

    Corn ready to be cut!

    • ellipsis October 14, 2019 at 10:30 am #

      I thought that was cute too. His toys no doubt. He’s such a poser.

      • hmuller October 14, 2019 at 11:00 am #

        Do you suppose he still plays with his Mr Potato Head?

        • Nightowl October 14, 2019 at 11:13 am #

          “So many questions …”

        • ellipsis October 14, 2019 at 11:14 am #

          Looks more like a Transformers man.

    • tvwillie October 14, 2019 at 10:39 am #

      The cage outside the window is for “Jail Birds”.

      • hmuller October 14, 2019 at 11:01 am #

        A bird sings loudest when you put it in a cage.

    • abbybwood October 14, 2019 at 9:11 pm #

      That is right.

      Comey boasted that he is sleeping until nine in the morning and “spending time with the grandchildren”.

      THEN he goes to his home office (or Fivebucks?) to work on ending Trump’s presidency.

      I can only hope that when that political ax comes falling down Comey is the first to get nailed.

  3. redrock October 14, 2019 at 10:18 am #

    Comey needs the rope.

  4. MX Vet 57 October 14, 2019 at 10:18 am #

    Nailed it again, JHK. Thank you.

    • Reality Check 1 October 15, 2019 at 12:10 pm #

      Rudy Giuliani’s scheme to open a shadowy back channel with the new Ukrainian government in order to damage Joe Biden was so ham-handed that even John Bolton, the mustachioed former national security adviser to President Trump, reportedly called it a “drug deal” and Giuliani himself “a hand grenade who’s going to blow everybody up.”

      Trump. So screwed.

      • Nightowl October 16, 2019 at 4:56 am #

        Our resident comedian is here all night, folks.

      • Steveplustax October 20, 2019 at 3:21 am #

        You are correct, RC1. The events of the last few days have left JHK’s “whistleblower” post looking a bit silly, to say the least. I’m surprised he has not deleted it.

  5. hmuller October 14, 2019 at 10:25 am #

    “Q” was right. These people are so stupid, they supply the rope to hang them.

    • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 11:01 am #

      Stupid, yes. But much more dangerously, unbelievably arrogant. The Deep State believes it is sacrosanct and the rest of the country does not count. They were actually totally surprised, shocked and really pissed off by 2016. Insulted and ready to blame the public for their disingenuousness. Their treatment of the office of the President is proof of their arrogance. They are so imbedded in the structure of the Deep State they have been getting away with the legislative and judicial BS they have been doing.

      Unfortunately for them, not everyone believes their BS and the legitimate numbers are growing as Trump ferrets out the bums and the odds are shifting.

      In other words, he is draining the swamp.

      • hmuller October 14, 2019 at 11:16 am #

        Eventually, someone needs to point out these deep state criminals are not some tribe isolated to the bowels of the US government. They are the membership ans associates of the Council of Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Club of Rome, the Bilderbergers, and scores of other NGO’s which march under the banner of “Globalism” to build for us a total surveillance slave state.

        The monster is huge and international.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2019 at 11:42 am #

          So why the quotes around Globalism? A technical point. They really do want a Global Slave State as you seem to affirm in your last sentence. Their opponents, the Zionists, want a Global State too, but with Jerusalem the capital city as Ben Gurion said. Both are the enemies of America and Western Civilization. Both want massive immigration to swamp White Nations and so blend the White race out of existence. That explains Trump’s passion for unlimited “legal” (a spiritual crime) immigration.

          • hmuller October 14, 2019 at 12:10 pm #

            Maybe I should have omitted the quotes. I just think “globalism” is not an ugly enough word to accurately describe their agenda. As if they wanted to give us a Star Trek world of peace, freedom, and plenty. But the term “the hot poker up our ass agenda” is too long and unwieldy.

          • shotho October 15, 2019 at 9:48 am #

            Presumably, that would also mean that the black and brown races would also be blended out of existence.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2019 at 1:34 pm #

            Bravo for you acumen, Shotho, but I’m mostly concerned about my own Race. But yes btw, they are already starting the same shit with the East Asians, particularly our old allies, the Japanese. They want one blended humanity, with only one remaining Nation – their (((own))).

      • draupnir October 14, 2019 at 3:37 pm #

        Trump is no Hercules, and the swamp is dirtier and dauntingly larger than the Augean stable.

      • abbybwood October 14, 2019 at 9:24 pm #

        They have their jobs decade to decade. Presidents come and go.

        All the other presidents in my memory have “gone along to get along” just as Hillary would have done.

        Instead the voters tossed Intell a non-politician (who ended up being one of the BEST) and threw them all for a loop.

        Thus the running around with their collective hair on fire.

        We are all witnessing Schumer’s warning he gave to Maddow when Trump started with the tweets about not trusting the Intell reports:

        “The Intelligence Community have six ways from Sunday to get back.”

        Now here we are.

    • MoleMan October 15, 2019 at 8:19 pm #

      By “these people” you also mean Giuliani (as noted above), right? His current situation is curiously missing from JHK’s recent post. Hmm… $500,000 (maybe two of these payments) from foreign sources. And you guys are worked up about the Bidens. Man, the bullshit comes from all sides–especially from your Golden Boy. That’s the biggest heist of all of this: that you sad pawns don’t have the cajones to admit that you fucked up by voting for this douchebag. I can understand why you did, but the defense is running mighty thin. Just think, if a Democrat president had surrounded himself with this many crooked assholes (the list is enormous at this point), you’d be screaming corruption with your stars and bars undies in a tight liddle’ ol’ wad.

      • Steveplustax October 20, 2019 at 3:58 am #

        MoleMan–I think we are just seeing the tip of the iceberg re. Giuliani’s trans-national crimes. The current administration is a pirate ship, and Rudy has been buckling a lot of swash. Mick Mukasey, as well. (And I’m still wondering how a certain Fifth Avenue-based laundromat chain can continue to avoid serious scrutiny.)

        I was surprised to note in James B. Stewart’s new book that Steve Bannon derides the idea of a so-called “deep state,” which he attributes to nations like Turkey and Egypt. (Bannon says the idea is for morons–I’d have thought he might find it politically useful.) It’s been mildly dispiriting to watch so many otherwise sane Americans falling for this amorphous, comforting nonsense within the last three or four years. I can’t remember a pop-culture fad that has caught on so quickly with an adult demographic.

  6. Walter B October 14, 2019 at 10:28 am #

    How quaint Jim, to include that lovely picture of Little Jimmy with his toys in what is surely his mega mansion somewhere in a secluded white privilege estate cluster. It just goes to show you that if you whore yourself out to the Clinton Crime Family you will be showered with massive amounts of dirty cash as well as the true privilege of being able to make up your our truths. Cross or betray them and you wake up dead.

    I cannot wait for our resident NY Times shill to assault you for once again pointing out how the old dog pee soaked “news” rag has decayed into a cheap slut for the mob. Heck, High Times magazine is more valuable even if it is no longer in print. Perhaps our shill buddy can switch masters.

    • DrTomSchmidt October 14, 2019 at 10:33 am #

      You’re a man of the right, Walter, but my guess is you miss the old, honest left of people like Gus Hall. The time of lying must come to an end eventually.

      My guess is that happens when the fracked oil is insufficient and we start having to import more. Life will be harder, but more honest.

      • Nightowl October 14, 2019 at 10:37 am #

        Right/left have virtually no meaning these days. All that matters is that Walter is an honest man.

      • Walter B October 14, 2019 at 10:40 am #

        You’ve got me pegged Doc, having to listen to blatant lies drives me to the brink. It started when I lived under the Honor Code, where a man could be trusted to be honest and his word was good enough to go on. I do not enjoy getting screwed, but when someone gives you the short end of the stick and tells you, “Yeah I hosed you on that one”, well at least you can respect the honesty. As Merlin says:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tch1CuMV9M

        When a man lies he murders a part of the world.

        • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 11:09 am #

          As well as a part of himself.

          A lie generated means that you have to watch everything you say and do to not get caught. The truth is said once and requires no follow up and its resultant stress.

          You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

          Just a reminder that we are all being watched eventually.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2019 at 11:50 am #

            Is it not Just that one Man should die that the People should live? The high Priest thus told a far greater Truth than he knew. But the analogy holds true on many levels. The Leader must lie to the People on occasion, or at least hold back even as a Parent does the same with his or her children.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2019 at 11:47 am #

          Someone said, “Honor is a gift a man gives himself.” I like that. That being said, it still stands that most people can’t deal with too much reality as Aldous Huxley said. They demand to be lied to. Hierarchy is thus the order of the Day (Age), with people encouraged to be honest in their little corner of the world – and not given more reality than they can deal with.

          • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 2:13 pm #

            Hey Janos.

            Heck of an idea. We need to add to the impeachment requirement

            “Lies, High Crimes and misdemeanors”.

            Wow, we could watch these Deep State suckers impeach each other to death. The DC crowd would implode.

            Then we can start over.

        • abbybwood October 14, 2019 at 9:32 pm #

          Or a woman, like Hillary Clinton or Elizabeth Warren.

          God they must think we are all dumb as rocks.

      • Sam Stone October 14, 2019 at 2:02 pm #

        Wrong Doc, Walt is like our host, SSL, San Jose Jen, and many other posters in the CFN salon. Men and women who are now and most likely have always been liberals. That’s right liberals, real liberals, not right or left wing nut jobs but people who look for and value the truth.

        The word liberal itself has been put through the “real” left wing spin cycle and has lost all meaning. Actually losing its meaning is not correct. The meaning of the word has been changed to mean whatever the progs want it to mean.

        Of course the word “progressive” (prog) has mutated as well. But I’ll have to stop there before nothing makes any sense. Which is of course what the Alinsky types are shooting for.

        Alles ist klar, kommisar?

        • Walter B October 15, 2019 at 12:25 am #

          Yes indeed Sam, liberal in the way that we believe that all are entitled to their own beliefs, opinions, and the right to voice them. Liberal in the belief that all should be given the same opportunities to seek, strive, and succeed if they so choose, and perhaps even liberal enough to believe that those who have nothing to offer still need to somehow be offered a way to make it work for them without unbearable burden upon those that provide.

          Yet those of us that so believe also remain adamant in our belief that the government must remain conservative in how they collect and spend that which they take in. That they and we spend less than we make and that we strive to save as much as we can. The masses need to be protected from those parasites that would enslave them through greed and debt, and must demand that our government retains at least a little bit of the moral high ground and takes seriously the trust that we instill upon them, rather than looking out for themselves and their span instead. I am no dreamer, simply a man that believes in a higher responsibility than myself.

    • newworld October 14, 2019 at 10:48 am #

      Think of the horror the average white upper middle class “Resistance” puke must feel if they think they will lose their wealth and privilege. Where are they going to live? With their fellow Democratic voters in the poor parts of town, how scary would that be?

      • Tate October 14, 2019 at 11:12 am #

        Scary enough to turn hard right.

    • neon sky October 14, 2019 at 11:03 am #

      No way those are toys in the photo. More likely they’re super spy gear fresh out of the lab, like in 007 movies.

  7. DrTomSchmidt October 14, 2019 at 10:30 am #

    The sad thing about this is that it’s forcing advocates of due process to back someone like Trump. It’s become clear that the over-800 billion in “defense” and “intelligence” money has done nothing but breed a class of grifters around DC desperate to keep the money flowing.

    Trump added $50billion to the pile in his defense requests.

    With Trillion dollar deficits, we cannot afford that honeypot. The Dems ought to not vote on funding any of it. Let’s spend what China spends on defense.

    • pokercat October 14, 2019 at 10:41 am #

      Dr. T the national debt doesn’t matter, America will never pay what’s owed. So we can fund EVERYTHING.

      Our future may be “we’d rather owe it to you than cheat you out of it” and we are not going to pay interest…..problem solved.

      • shotho October 14, 2019 at 10:52 am #

        The debt will be paid,one way or the other, and consequences will flow therefrom.

        • Tate October 14, 2019 at 11:15 am #

          The central bank of the Netherlands caused a stir when it issued a report saying that gold would be necessary to restart the global financial system when our current one goes kablooey. The article was at was at Zero Hedge

          • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2019 at 11:54 am #

            Trust is the ultimate Gold. With Trust you have social capital and no Gold is required. The German Nation was robbed of all its gold after WW1. But it still had many strong arms and minds. When a Leader arose who inspired Trust, they had all they needed to rebuild the Nation. And without Trust, having Gold will not work.

          • Tate October 14, 2019 at 12:33 pm #

            “Trust is the ultimate Gold.”

            Well, there you go. That’s the problem we now face. When trust has vanished at all levels, people will insist on gold.

          • elysianfield October 16, 2019 at 6:46 pm #

            Janos,
            Gold holds a traditional place where/when trust can not be guaranteed.

            “In God We Trust…All others pay Cash…”

      • Uncle Bob October 14, 2019 at 12:04 pm #

        Thanks to modern monetary theory, the geniuses who run our financial system plan to simply print money forever because the world can’t function without us. Of course, the graveyards are full of indispensable men, and history is full of indispensable empires, but no matter: these bozos think they’re smarter and better than anyone else who has ever lived, so they have all the answers. Thus, the $2 trillion in new money the Fed just injected into the banks, as alluded to in the last JHK article. What will they do if China drops the $45 trillion bomb on the global economy or calls the loans they’ve made to the U.S. over the years? Probably shit their pants and cry for Hillary, I mean Mommy.

    • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 11:14 am #

      You know, the defense budget is the only thing the Constitution states is a real responsibility of the Federal government. All the rest of the welfare state has been added on as “necessary and proper”. So priority-wise I would say the common defense has first priority and not health care for illegal immigrants.

      • Tate October 14, 2019 at 11:16 am #

        The kritarchy will find a way to work it in somehow.

      • sprawlcapital October 14, 2019 at 11:51 am #

        From the preamble: “promote the general welfare . . .” It’s a stretch, though, to include illegal immigrants in the general welfare. Also very foolish.

        • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 12:23 pm #

          To promote,

          To increase the general welfare

          Does all the money being spent on welfare increasing the general welfare? Just the opposite.

          Does promoting illegal immigration increase the general welfare?
          just the opposite

          Does increasing the average level of education increase the general welfare? Yes with considerations, does the education provided match the needs of the public, or are we just brainwashing kids with BS liberal arts in college. Currently, employers are screaming for skills, not ethnic studies. Free college is a hoax.

          Does providing “free” healthcare for everyone increase the general welfare. You bet it does, if it is free. But I think the MDs, nurses and hospital will still want a paycheck. This is the most dangerous blood sucker of them all if left to its ends. What a government control bureaucracy building methods ever. Like the safety net, a method of emergent care should be there for everyone, but giving comprehensive care to the elective care side is budget busting. Even the now socialistic countries delay elective care for years due to insufficient numbers of MDs, nurses and hospitals. 100% free comprehensive on-demand healthcare is a hoax.

          And on and on.

          • abbybwood October 14, 2019 at 9:41 pm #

            First ICE should focus on arresting every employer who is allowing any undocumented alien to work.

            That alone would nip the illegal immigration problem in the bud.

            But that is not going to happen because The Chamber of Commerce said so.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2019 at 11:56 am #

        No standing army. Only a Navy to deal with issues on the sea. The militias were supposed to take care of issues here. As it stands, it’s against the Law for the standing army or any militias to defend our borders, such is the ultimate perversity of America.

        • SoftStarLight October 14, 2019 at 12:13 pm #

          I will never be able to understand this. I simply cannot process it.

        • sprawlcapital October 14, 2019 at 12:13 pm #

          Yes, defense spending approaches a trillion dollars per year, yet with all that money, our military is not able to defend our border with Mexico. Perversity indeed.

          • benr October 14, 2019 at 12:30 pm #

            Not able hardly…No allowed to by order of law.

          • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 12:32 pm #

            Interesting!

            We have used the method of fighting our potential enemies, “over there”.

            Everything that is happening is showing us that is not working any more. As the “children” overseas grow up, they want to do their own thing. The world is becoming an adolescent.

            So now what? Is protecting our immediate borders going to become the function of the military? Are the days of 20th century adventurism gone?

            Is Trump’s ME withdrawal the beginning of a general retraction?

            Yes. America First!

          • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2019 at 1:00 pm #

            Aquinas: Any law that opposes Natural Law is no law at all, but rather, tyranny.

          • elysianfield October 16, 2019 at 6:51 pm #

            “Aquinas: Any law that opposes Natural Law is no law at all, but rather, tyranny.”

            Janos,
            Oh yeah? Well…

            “If the law says that, then the law is an ass…” Mr. Bumble

      • Reality Check 1 October 14, 2019 at 3:39 pm #

        But you love your social security retirement benefits don’t you.

        • abbybwood October 14, 2019 at 9:50 pm #

          I am enjoying my Social Security now and it is NOT a benefit.

          It is MY money I earned over forty years breaking my back as a Registered Nurse.

          I should be getting a lot more each month for the fact I actually worked for my fellow Americans as a healer and am truly enduring the pain of it all now.

          Thank God I have Medicare or I would have kissed life goodbye years ago.

          • benr October 15, 2019 at 7:30 am #

            Thanks for all the service provided.

            RC1 Does not get it as he/she has been on the government hand put for it’s entire life.

        • elysianfield October 16, 2019 at 6:53 pm #

          “But you love your social security retirement …”

          Reality,
          Keep your Goddamn hands off my $147.00 per month….

    • Epicur October 14, 2019 at 6:36 pm #

      “It’s become clear that the over-800 billion in “defense” and “intelligence” money has done nothing but breed a class of grifters around DC desperate to keep the money flowing.”

      It was clear to anyone who could (and would) do the math in the 1960s. First LBJ, then Nixon used expanding credit to keep the good times rolling when that was the last chance to have a sustainable USA if there ever was one. “Noble” laws like the Immigration Reform Act of 1965 and the Humphrey-Hawkins full employment act sealed the deal.

      The Republic is dying as the founders knew it would. The founders knew it would because they knew human nature – a reality most Americans and Europeans deny today.

      “It is useless to see the future and screech at it.”

      All we can do is prepare for what is inevitable.

  8. pokercat October 14, 2019 at 10:34 am #

    ‘Mr. Trump released the transcript of his phone call to Ukraine’s president Zelensky,”

    That you would accept anything less that a verified recording of the conversation makes me question your intellect or your naivety.

    When has the GGG or his minions every told the truth about just about anything?

    You may remember that Nixon released a transcript of “the tapes” but when the tapes were released they showed the transcript to be anything but accurate.

    • Nightowl October 14, 2019 at 10:40 am #

      Zelensky has confirmed Trump’s statements.

      See, in the real world, when you make claims like this, the burden of proof is on you.

      So go on, prove it’s fake.

      • pokercat October 14, 2019 at 10:52 am #

        I was going to leave a detailed reply…had it all typed out but deleted it….it’s just not worth our time.

        • Nightowl October 14, 2019 at 10:52 am #

          You have nothing.

          • hmuller October 14, 2019 at 11:07 am #

            You made me imagine Adam Schiff saying, “I had 6 whistle blowers lined up. Unfortunately, they all drowned in a fishing accident. But I have the transcripts. No I don’t have the bodies. They were cremated and the ashes scattered at sea. No I don’t have their names. Hey! Who’s under investigation here!?”

          • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 11:29 am #

            When you rack up GGG’s propaganda against the outright BS of the Deep State trying to protect their rapidly now eroding turf, he looks like a pariah of the truth. And remember the communicators are the media, the pee soaked rags, whose falseness is coming out more and more. Just for fun, sometimes I turn on CNN to see if anything has changed and am never surprised by the line of tripe I hear every time. I do not understand how a group of people can be 110% against the policies of one man, like no matter what he does, he is wrong. No one is the history of the world has ever been 100% wrong.

            That is why you can label the rantings of the MSM as mostly what comes out of the north end of a southbound horse.

          • benr October 14, 2019 at 12:35 pm #

            @johnaz

            All one need do is understand for the progressive communist left not being in lockstep with all the talking points is enough for them to hate you. Even some of their own are starting to be eaten for wrong pronoun use!

            Take the slip from on eon this board that rails against Trump with the latest lie de jour she actually admitted she has always hated Trump so even when he is right he is wrong as far as she is concerned.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2019 at 11:57 am #

          You’ve embarrassed yourself.

        • RIB October 14, 2019 at 12:21 pm #

          Middle school debating techniques at their finest

          • elysianfield October 16, 2019 at 6:56 pm #

            “Middle school debating techniques at their finest…”

            Aside from the Rubens Defense, I prefer…”Oh Yeah? Well….Fuck You!”

            …Always leaves them speechless….

    • Uncle Bob October 14, 2019 at 11:48 am #

      They don’t record presidents’ phone calls. And let’s face it, even if an actual recording existed and was released and it proved Trump was 100 % correct in his statements and did nothing wrong, you’d probably then say he should be removed for getting in the way of profiteering by the Bidens, the Romneys, the Pelosis, and anyone else who has a kid working for a Ukranian oil or gas concern.

      • hmuller October 14, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

        So much moral outrage (against Trump) from people who have profited immensely from sweet-heart deals for decades. That’s chutzpah!

    • abbybwood October 14, 2019 at 9:52 pm #

      I read that recordings are no longer made of these calls.

      That is pretty hard to swallow.

  9. JustSaying October 14, 2019 at 11:12 am #

    Maybe Jimmy can get the band back together!

    • Yukon Tom October 14, 2019 at 11:27 am #

      Which band, the Grateful Dead?

  10. BC_EE October 14, 2019 at 11:16 am #

    The Deep State, entrenched bureaucracy, whatever you want to call it is too far entrenched. It is a fatalistic parasite completely embedded in the host. To try and kill off the parasite is to kill the host, there is no other way.

    The movie Alien comes to mind.

    That is why Jim, your pining for the DOJ or other special investigator report to bring these culprits to the sanitizing light of day is Pyrrhic victory.

    Regardless of intentions of virtue and law abiding government no one comes out this alive. You know what they say about the road to Hell…

    • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 11:34 am #

      A hopeful first step may be a vow to never vote for anything resembling a liberal welfare feeding Democrat the rest of your life. RINOs too. Conservative Dems exist to offset the RINOs.

      Kill the Deep State. Destroy the power of the bureaucracy.

      • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 11:50 am #

        And create a two party system in which both parties are pro-Constitution.

        • SoftStarLight October 14, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

          No!!!! The two-party system is not working.

          • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 1:09 pm #

            You are right currently. That is because one of the parties goal is to destroy the system and create a one party system.

            The “confusion” of the two party system is what keeps the evil of despotism away.

            One party system will be the death of Americanism.

            Two party systems supporting the Constitution on both sides has worked fairly well for 200 + years.

          • Tate October 14, 2019 at 2:19 pm #

            Some people cannot fathom the changes that are coming. And they cannot fathom that these changes are irreversible at this point. Mostly the older folks.

          • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 1:27 am #

            What about having a multi-party system or coalition type of government?

      • Reality Check 1 October 14, 2019 at 3:37 pm #

        Just kill yourself.

        • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 1:25 am #

          You haven’t met Reality Check 2 yet have you? Things will get better.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2019 at 1:35 pm #

            Nice. Each Terminator terminates the previous one.

          • SoftStarLight October 16, 2019 at 12:36 am #

            Yes, planned obsolescence, even if seemingly cruel to us due to their humanoid form, is a necessary process nonetheless. Though, we can never allow for the release of model 1337!

    • So many liars October 14, 2019 at 11:44 am #

      Kill the parasite, kill the host. I don’t like the sound of that. Easy to believe that the corruption is widespread (in both parties) and especially entrenched in those who have spent decades in power and in politics. So I can see that a treatment that kills the parasite will have devastating consequences for a broad swath of the guilty, even if we let the low-level personnel off. But surely, SURELY, there remains enough of the American spirit to persevere through treatment and into recovery! Isn’t that what Donald Trump has shown us, that if we fight back, we don’t have to succumb?

      • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 11:59 am #

        Easy, vote against the blood suckers, every single chance you get. Vote against increasing government control and government subsidies, like the entire Democratic platform for 2020. Vote against any candidate that is trying to buy votes by increasing government subsidies.

        Millennials, you buy the lines you are hearing from the Left, you will rue the day. Ask a simple question, where are they going to get the cash they are promising you now. From you, in your future. There is not near enough cash available “from the rich” to fund any of their super programs. Use your educated heads to figure this out.

        • SoftStarLight October 14, 2019 at 12:04 pm #

          I know you always think Millennials are the culprits in turning the country to the Left, but really John, I notice lots of gray hair in those Leftie crowds too. And its usually gray haired teachers and professors preaching the Leftie way from their pulpits, I mean lecterns, at the schools and universities.

          • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

            Yeah, but I give the millennials more credit to be malleable and realize what is going on than the idiots that are teaching them. Millennials, Blacks, Latinos everyone are going to slowly drift Right. The Dems know this, and want to keep those open borders, sanctuary sites, and changing voting requirements.

        • RIB October 14, 2019 at 12:24 pm #

          Well John, I can’t just hear Liz Warren now blaming the failure of her promises on the “lazy- do-nothing reactionary Republican Congress. The media will let her skate along with that song,too

          • RIB October 14, 2019 at 12:24 pm #

            “CAN just hear.”

          • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 1:11 pm #

            Absolutely. The Dems are split right now. Eliminating the evil of their party would be a good thing.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2019 at 12:00 pm #

        You need a Great Dictator to declare Martial Law. Nothing else will do. Trump doesn’t have the stones to do it. Thus the Left bids fair to triumph sooner or later, if not in 2020 then 2024.

        • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 1:45 pm #

          The key is the public and its politics. If the Deep State is successful at keeping an open border and a propaganda mill in higher education, we will continue to drift Left and the American liberty above government credo will fade away.

          Our government is a reflection on us, the public. Right wing socialist one party rule has worked many times in history to try to control public’s destroying themselves with Leftist gimme credos. But they never last. Hitler, Tito, Hussein, Assad, heck Crassus and Julius Caesar are all examples.

          The folks posting here who believe that we are damned if we do and damned if we don’t may be right. The only power we have had since 1789 is the vote. I, for one, hope it is enough to turn the gimme tide.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2019 at 11:11 pm #

            Well nothing last forever. But the Roman Republic died and Rome was reborn as an Empire – which lasted for centuries.

  11. BackRowHeckler October 14, 2019 at 11:50 am #

    I was hoping James would comment on the Climate X movement that’s all the rage right now. Maybe next week …

    Brh

    • Yukon Tom October 14, 2019 at 5:00 pm #

      So was I, but the circus in DC is hard to ignore. Gail Tverberg has a few good articles lately on renewables, and Cory Morningstar has some good articles on manufacturing consent for the new green deal. Maybe next week but the shit show in DC will likely continue to attract us to it like moths to the flame.

    • MoleMan October 15, 2019 at 8:34 pm #

      I was hoping he might comment on Giuliani’s buddies and those pesky high-dollar payments from foreign sources. Maybe next week…

  12. SoftStarLight October 14, 2019 at 11:59 am #

    I love that you shared that photo of James Comey, Mr. K.! I guess some things just never change. A boy just can’t part with his toys lol! I know, I know, the grandkids the grandkids. He is clever. This is his lame way of humanizing himself and tugging at hearts so that people will feel sorry for him if and when Justice is dispensed. It’s almost as lame as Liz Warren attempting to dance onstage at her campaign events :-).

    • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2019 at 12:04 pm #

      Attempting to dance. How sad. If a person can’t dance, what right do they have to lead?

      • SoftStarLight October 14, 2019 at 12:12 pm #

        Agreed! It’s all about choreography. I think back to when you said that appearances are important to a degree, particularly in the realm of politics. What better appearance could there be than a perfectly choreographed dance?! Any good Leader must be a an unquestionable Lead.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2019 at 12:21 pm #

          And improvisation. You went right and I followed and swept you even further right and then you took my sweep to go even further right again. You arched so low as to clean the Earth with your Hair.

          The Sun leads and the Earth follows. If He wants the climate to change, it will change. The Great Leader is like the Sun and makes a clean sweep, changing the political climate utterly, making all things new.

          • SoftStarLight October 14, 2019 at 12:40 pm #

            So Beautiful and full of Truth.

      • benr October 14, 2019 at 12:46 pm #

        Ugh she is 70 so there is that a better example of this stupidity of her lies.

  13. Tate October 14, 2019 at 12:11 pm #

    Pencil-neck has some sort of hormonal condition affecting his judgment. He is also Hollywood’s representative. If the whistleblower turns out to be an invention of his mind, his constituents will be unfazed & will likely return him to his seat.

    • SoftStarLight October 14, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

      Pencil-neck :-). Yes, the democratic process is a big disappointment. It seems to eliminate heroes and reward mediocrity, if not outright stupidity. The media and all the corresponding institutions also ensure that heroes are quashed.

    • hmuller October 14, 2019 at 12:20 pm #

      They could even give Schiff a star on the Walk of Shame, next to the other Hollywood pedophiles.

      • BackRowHeckler October 14, 2019 at 4:09 pm #

        Tomas d’ Torqueanada, Chief Witch Hunter, Spanish Inquisition, 15th century

        Mathew Hopkins, Chief Witch Hunter, England, English Civil War period, 1640s

        Congressman Adam Schiff, D Cal., Chief Witch Hunter, US Congressm 2016-2019.

        Brh

    • Nightowl October 14, 2019 at 2:56 pm #

      I mentioned this before, but I think Schiff has serious skeletons in his closet that he knows Trump knows about.

      Trump calls him “Liddle” Adam Schiff and it would appear to be a reference to the Liddle Kidz Foundation.

      Schiff is also connected to Ed Buck and several other suspicious individuals, as well as the Standard Hotel chain which uses pedophilic imagry in its ads and has been host to some shady business.

      That tweet from Trump is written the same way every time, and I, personally, don’t think it is an accident.

      • Tate October 14, 2019 at 5:07 pm #

        You may be onto something. I think it was you who was positing that this latest “Ukrainegate” thing is an effort by the Dems to dethrone Biden to make way for Warren. They know Biden can’t go the distance. Then yesterday I saw a headline that echoed that very same thinking.

  14. BackRowHeckler October 14, 2019 at 12:21 pm #

    It looks like Columbus Day is being written out of history by the Ministry of Truth. No mention of the holiday on the local morning news, one article in the local newspaper slandering it.

    Brh

    • So many liars October 14, 2019 at 12:34 pm #

      Yeah, I just returned from a fruitless visit to the local post office – Closed. On my way into work I was listening to NPR talking about Indigenous Peoples Day becoming accepted legally by several states and municipalities. Several times I took issue with what was being said or implied. Like Native Peoples were the victims of a genocidal Christopher Columbus, without mentioning that the various tribes of N and S America were frequently at war with each other, that they engaged in rape and genocide, that they took over each other’s assets and territory. But only the European guy is evil. And why, they said, should he have a holiday when he never set foot on the continent? But again, the guy who never set foot on American soil is credited with decimating NA people.

      And then a while ago, I read the article linked below. So good to know that others are paying attention!

      https://nypost.com/2019/10/13/stop-scapegoating-christopher-columbus/

    • Tate October 14, 2019 at 12:40 pm #

      We wouldn’t want the ‘respected tribal elders’ to get upset & get in our face with their tom-toms now would we?

      • Reality Check 1 October 14, 2019 at 3:36 pm #

        Fuck you.

        • Tate October 14, 2019 at 5:14 pm #

          Did I detect a whiff of swamp gas?

        • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 1:13 am #

          Seawolf? Is that you playing games? Come out come out wherever you are!

          • Nightowl October 15, 2019 at 11:03 am #

            He has returned after the second ban.

            Can’t get enough it seems.

        • elysianfield October 16, 2019 at 7:01 pm #

          “Fuck you.”

          Reality,
          You really WERE on the middle school debate team, then?

          Next time, try the Rubens Defense….

    • SoftStarLight October 14, 2019 at 12:42 pm #

      Yes, our perceptions and feelings, our very minds are subject to their propaganda. We must always be alert lest we fall into their trance.

  15. Luhrenloup October 14, 2019 at 12:24 pm #

    If there was a real person behind Ukrainegate he would have been exposed by now. Some sharpy would have ferreted out that info.

  16. Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2019 at 12:25 pm #

    Happy Columbus Day. Columbus was a Crusader seeking India so he could ask for an alliance with the King of India against Islam. Naive in many ways, his aim was exalted and began the Conquest of the New World for the White Race.

    Those who prate of “Indigenous People Day” show themselves as the utter traitors that they are – effectively spitting on their heritage, history, culture, ancestors, and nation all at the same time. Scum in other words.

    • SoftStarLight October 14, 2019 at 12:48 pm #

      They are scum and should reap the recompense of their sedition. So many Whites died vicious and painful deaths to establish the society of ease we have today. Shame is the least that could be heaped upon these wicked and deceitful ingrates.

      • Reality Check 1 October 14, 2019 at 3:34 pm #

        Fuck you.

        • hmuller October 14, 2019 at 3:55 pm #

          RC1, Does your mother know you’re in the basement vilely insulting people on the internet? Maybe this site’s monitor can do something about that.

          • elysianfield October 16, 2019 at 7:07 pm #

            hmuller,
            Do you remember the routine by Lenny Bruce where the term “fuck you” should be considered a term that offered the receiver to be happy and well-wished?

            “Oh, thank you for the car, dad…fuck you, I really mean that… I am so happy.”

          • hmuller October 16, 2019 at 7:42 pm #

            George Carlin had a similar routine. But I don’t think RC 1 is expressing his blessings and good wishes here, do you?

        • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 1:04 am #

          What an ugly little attitude you have. I suppose sacrifices don’t mean anything if there not done by the right people? Well sorry. I think it is a shame that so many do not appreciate what was done by those who came before them to create the world they’ve been handed. Could things be better? Obviously! And so we toil. So now, what variety of victim are you?

        • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 1:19 am #

          Seawolf you know every day can be indigenous peoples day. Columbus Day is Dia de la Raza after all. Stop getting so mad and foul-mouthed.

          • hmuller October 15, 2019 at 10:27 am #

            I don’t think RC1 is seawolf returned under a new name. Seawolf would linger like a bad cold you can’t shake off. This guy blew thru here in 10 minutes – like time is valuable when you get paid to troll many websites.

            Also seawolf would make many bone headed arguments which made sense to him in his drunken stupor, only then ending with a big “F.U.”

    • Reality Check 1 October 14, 2019 at 3:35 pm #

      Columbus was a slave trader. Deal with it Skinhead.

      • BackRowHeckler October 14, 2019 at 4:04 pm #

        We usually don’t talk to one another in that manner on this board, RC1

        • benr October 15, 2019 at 3:10 pm #

          Ah come on there is some ribbing that goes on there but if you expect operation sock puppet to read or respond well it’s not going to happen and chances are that is AI.

      • Tate October 14, 2019 at 5:18 pm #

        So says Howard Zinn, rofL. Giving away your age bracket there, chief.

      • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 1:12 am #

        And exactly who did not trade in slaves hundreds and thousands of years ago?

        • hmuller October 15, 2019 at 10:22 am #

          This RC1 character blew thru here in under 10 minutes, leaving a trail of insults and obscenities. This makes me think he’s a paid troll who hits many websites to earn his filthy wages.

          JHK should definitely block him. Free speech is not someone hired to stand in front of your grandmother’s house screaming obscenities at her.

          • SoftStarLight October 16, 2019 at 12:43 am #

            Really! The nerve of these automatons! Whether breathing or not they are as annoying as pesky gnats on a hot day.

      • PeteAtomic October 15, 2019 at 7:46 pm #

        yea I bet ole Chris banged the sweetest of the squaws. Damn that guy! lol

        • hmuller October 16, 2019 at 7:55 pm #

          Well, somebody banged the squaws. Syphilis came to Europe from the New World around 1494. Ironically, they called it the “French Disease” after those who spread it with the most zeal.

          I’m guessing Elizabeth Warren and the partisans of political correctness will deny it.

  17. Beryl of Oyl October 14, 2019 at 12:45 pm #

    “Morse code, carrier pigeon, or smoke signals”. I love it.

  18. lost-in-north-dakota October 14, 2019 at 12:47 pm #

    I hope the whistleblower report is in Morse Code. It’s usually too windy in North Dakota to receive a reliable smoke signal.

    • Beryl of Oyl October 14, 2019 at 1:23 pm #

      They could do those ‘raps’ like they used to do in seances.
      They could say the whistleblower is dead.
      They could say Trump had him killed, and impeach him for murder.

      • hmuller October 17, 2019 at 3:30 pm #

        They should design a board game like Clue covering the people the Clintons murdered.

  19. Beryl of Oyl October 14, 2019 at 1:17 pm #

    Here’s something interesting that my attention was directed to:
    The Hi-Tech Traditionalist: A Revolution In Reverse: The Uprising Of The American Elites Against The American People

    “The great Bolshevik revolutions of the last century in Russia, in China, and in Cuba all followed a familiar pattern: a group of young, energetic, endlessly corruptible, but not yet corrupt outsiders take on, in the name of the people, a tired corrupt establishment. A civil war ensues in which the people side with the revolutionaries because they (mistakenly) think that things can never be worse. Revolutionaries win, slaughter the establishment elites, and proceed to rob and enslave the people in even more outrageous fashion. Soon enough the old guard revolutionaries become every bit as corrupt as the ones they have replaced if not more so and the cycle repeats itself.

    In America, the situation is rather farcically backwards. In America, the corrupt establishment elites have decided to stage a Bolshevik coup against the American people rather than the other way around. A Tsar fully in command of his own kingdom staging a coup against his own people is a bizarre development to say the least, and yet, here we are in 2019 America. Like always, there are reasons. First and foremost among them is the sheer scope of the nepotism and corruption of the American elites in business, government, technology, and the intelligence services. This scope has very likely far exceeded anything previously known in human history…”
    https://tsarizm.com/opinion/2019/10/10/the-hi-tech-traditionalist-a-revolution-in-reverse-the-uprising-of-the-american-elites-against-the-american-people/

    “American elites against the American people” really is a more accurate reflection of what has been happening, than the outdated, naive, or even silly labels of Democrats versus Republicans, Left v. “Alt Right”, etc.

  20. lbs October 14, 2019 at 1:21 pm #

    If someone’s going to bring back carrier pigeon technology I can’t see anyone better suited than Adam Schiff.

  21. Beryl of Oyl October 14, 2019 at 1:32 pm #

    This is relevant to any discussion of the behavior of the NYT:

    “In 2008, the world’s richest man, Carlos Slim Helu, saved the Times from bankruptcy. When that guy saves your company, you dance to his tune. So it’s worth mentioning that Slim’s fortune depends on tens of millions of Mexicans living in the United States, preferably illegally.”

    “Frequently listed as the richest man in the world, Slim acquired his fortune through a corrupt inside deal giving him a monopoly on telecommunications services in Mexico. But in order to make money from his monopoly, Slim needs lots of Mexicans living in the United States, sending money to their relatives back in Oaxaca. Otherwise, Mexicans couldn’t pay him—and they wouldn’t have much need for phone service, either—other than to call in ransom demands.”

    https://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2015/06/01/carlos-slim-the-new-york-times-sugar-daddy-n2005713

    • The Times did another Fabulous in-depth feature on Micronesians being recruited by headhunters for the Meat Processing industry in Iowa. Each was told they would make $15 an hour which is about 10 times the wage in Micronesia, then flown in on prepaid tickets, to work slicing up Hog carcasses for America’s god-awful publicly subsidized processed meat industry.

      Well, after they got here, they had their wages stolen. They were basically treated like the Chattel slaves they are, and interviews revealed the hopelessness of their situation. Without documents, without anyplace to go, they are quitting and running off to be illegal immigrants in the heartland, to the sanctuary cities.

      Trump all that- this is a country that feels entitled to cheap bacon and they don’t want to hear how the sausage gets made. Just like cheap oil, just don’t tell them what air pollution is doing to their bodies. Or fracking, never mind the ground water.

      Anyway, so Ann Coulter thinks Carlos Slim, billionaire, uses the New York Times as a mouthpiece. Its fucking ridiculous. Carlos is a minority and non-voting shareholder, that owns giant blocks of equity in many, many sectors of the economy. The New York Times has always been pro-immigration, always been liberal, and as I’ve read it closely over the years, never panders to Mexican oligarchs, in particular. Carlos Slim being fabulously rich, and an investor, simply isn’t remarkable. Ann’s a fabulist, who was doing brisk business as a member of the deplorable commentariat in 2015. Populists are such easy marks for wild speculation with queer longevity. Hence, ads are still selling on page views from 2015, about stories without factual basis.

      American populists don’t want immigrants taking jobs but can’t square the circle that the jobs they’re doing won’t be done by Americans, which obviates the real pressing question, which is why the hell do we have an economy that creates these kinds of jobs, which would point directly back at them, to the contents of their refrigerators, the contents of their gas tanks, the constituents of their 401ks, the Made in China labels on everything in the Walmarts they shop in, the policies that were instituted by the people they voted for, etc.

      Its all a hunt for scapegoats. Carlos Slim, billionaire Mexican is about as tailor made a scapegoat as they come for Deplorables.

      • Tate October 14, 2019 at 2:41 pm #

        Are they cannibals, these vibrants from Micronesia? If it helps reduce the homeless population, what’s not to like?

        https://nypost.com/2019/10/08/accused-chinatown-killer-assaulted-homeless-man-week-before-murders-cops/?

        • No, they’re penniless and illiterate fishermen…

          The takeaway worth remembering is that having Trump as president and even in a state where Steve King is representative, there is absolutely no progress being made to stop immigration. None whatsoever.

          • Tate October 14, 2019 at 9:22 pm #

            There is some progress being made to stop some illegal immigration. But it’s not going to be enough to matter. When Trump supports immigration exclusive of the illegal kind, when most Americans support the same, oblivious to the dangers, forget freedom of the press among other enumerated freedoms within the lifetimes of many of us alive today.

          • Tate October 14, 2019 at 9:24 pm #

            Or another way to look at it, the corporate media will enjoy freedom of expression, but nobody else will.

        • Majella October 15, 2019 at 5:12 pm #

          Really, Tate?

      • BackRowHeckler October 14, 2019 at 3:06 pm #

        Carlos Slim

        Snacks, your (spiritual) Godfather?

        Or is your constant shilling for him and his newspaper out of the goodness of your heart? Si

      • City_of_76 October 14, 2019 at 3:11 pm #

        Hear hear, The Great and Infernal Truthiness of Lil Debbie Snack Packaging!

        I much appreciate your thoughtful contributions to this otherwise mostly bat-shit stupid comments thread.

        I scroll right by Janos, and John in AZ, and so forth, looking for one of the few commenters with their heads still screwed on fairly straight. Thank you for taking the time.

      • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 1:45 am #

        I appreciate what you are saying here and agree. We need a total and complete redo of the economy. Essentially a no-growth economy since our population is naturally not growing very much. Sacrifices must be made. But a complete end to immigration would be so amazing that such sacrifices would be deemed patriotic and American as Apple Pie.

      • elysianfield October 16, 2019 at 7:13 pm #

        “Meat Processing industry”

        SnakPak,
        I have a buddy that once owned a large meat packing facility. He once told me, with a serious demeanor…”Never eat Chorizo…”

        If you knew what they put into the Chorizo, you might feel better off eating tube steak in a San Francisco Bath House….

  22. What is the FBI for anyway?

    It describes the scope here on their website… Counterintelligence, cyber-crime, public corruption, among others… certainly germane to the Trump administration and the events surrounding the 2016 election.

    You might not like it but somebody has to work this beat. All the events surrounding the 2016 election involved all this and more, so there is no question these are justified investigations. Alleging that these investigations were politically motivated, or coordinated with The New York Times is ridiculous. Unlike Russia Today (Walt’s favorite news source) it is not a propaganda arm of a hostile foreign government (that meddles in US elections).

    Jim Comey is now a private and public citizen, and his book is out there- a lot of public record for someone with something to hide.

    • Beryl of Oyl October 14, 2019 at 2:01 pm #

      Actually there were questions. Many, many questions.

    • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 2:04 pm #

      The Deep State believes that is is right, it is holy. That it’s job is to protect itself from the public, represented by the populist, Trump.

      The Deep State is no longer of, by and for the public. It is for itself, period. The public is a nuisance when they say, quit partying and get to work.

      Just a thought.

      The MSM is just like the Lobbyists, who are just like the bureaucracy, the civil service. All are non elective parasitic agencies. And they outnumber the elected members of the Deep State, yes they are all part of it, hundreds to one.

      And we wonder why the elected bodies in DC are unresponsive. They are not the power, the Deep State is.

      • James Comey as head of the FBI, investigating the executive branch under the circumstances in of the late stages of the 2016 election, doesn’t make James Comey a traitor. This matter was in the FBI director’s wheelhouse.

        The involvement of the CIA was necessary at some point given the nature of involvement of foreign state actors. The involvement of the NSA was necessary at some point given the nature of how communication networks were used.

        And it is common to hear the opinion of how bad civil servants are (unless they are cops, firemen or service members) but I think that’s disingenuous. I prefer to think it just reflects personal sentiment, because people usually make exception, I am sure, for the police, firemen, and of course America’s Heroes, the service members). I would argue a career FBI agent is not different from a fireman or a schoolteacher, or even the night janitor in terms of their average quality as a civil servant.

        The chief allegations as I understand what JHK proposes are, that investigations were motivated by politics, and directed by political actors. But just because something happens in DC among and between branches of representative government, doesn’t mean it was political in nature.

        • hmuller October 16, 2019 at 3:36 pm #

          You’re pulling the same bullshit Janet pulled months ago. Trying to confuse the issue by mingling the low level govt employee, (e.g. a mail carrier, policeman, fireman, or school teacher) with the deep state actors, who are way up the totem pole.

          There are probably some patriotic agents at the FBI and CIA. They can show it by ratting out their degenerate superiors.

    • Nightowl October 14, 2019 at 3:11 pm #

      Yes, Snacklet, it was all perfectly legal to wiretap candidate Trump, corrupt the FISA process and hide the evidence from the IG, and filter information through foreign sources through 5EYEs to meddle in the election.

      I sometimes wonder if you consider even the most obvious counterpoints before posting.

      • Reality Check 1 October 14, 2019 at 3:32 pm #

        Trump was NEVER wiretapped. Try to keep up.

        • Nightowl October 14, 2019 at 4:54 pm #

          Semantic games. You lose.

      • hmuller October 14, 2019 at 3:49 pm #

        Lil Debbie says it’s ridiculous to allege these investigations of Trump are politically motivated. That tells you all you need to know about Lil Debbie’s integrity and grasp on reality..

        • Anything that anyone ever did in Washington is politically motivated. The House of Representatives, I’m pretty sure, weren’t elected to do anything but represent the political views of their constituents. Acting like a bunch of politicians… the nerve.

          • hmuller October 14, 2019 at 8:22 pm #

            Above you wrote: But just because something happens in DC among and between branches of representative government, doesn’t mean it was political in nature.

            Above that you wrote: Alleging that these investigations were politically motivated, or coordinated with The New York Times is ridiculous

            Now you admit everything in DC is politically motivated.

            Yes, I admit I’m too stupid to understand the consistency of your postings. Perhaps you could explain it all to a deplorable provincial.

  23. JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 1:56 pm #

    Let’s see. The whistleblower.

    A fabrication perhaps. Look at the record.

    Have the Dems ever made up a story before? Hint: Think two and a half years.

    Have the Dems ever lied about what Trump has or has not done?

    Have the Dems ever used undercover methods to bypass the Rule of Law? Think SCOTUS.

    Gee, I wonder why everyone is so skeptical.

    BTW. The RINOs are no better. Send them over to the Democratic Party where they belong.

    • I have no doubt the whistle blower’s identity is known to various people and is a real person, etc… As was detailed, the whistle-blower report was posted to a secure network not unlike the type of network I’m using right now that authenticates who I am and such a network would be designed to not allow someone to use the network without identifying themselves. If you’re following along, there is no point of a secret network if just anybody could log on and pretend to be someone else. There’s no anonymity on such a network. You’re proving who you are just to use it.

      Rep. Schiff knows, Nancy Pelosi knows, a few other people know, and we don’t know, that is all. If the sunlight of public investigation doesn’t reveal the ID of the whistle-blower I will eat my hat.

  24. RB October 14, 2019 at 2:33 pm #

    I do not think Mr. K is right about justice being served. NONE of the gang noted will never see a courtroom never mind a prison. Mr. Trump will leave office and the friendly judges to the fascists will continue to protect the criminals while Trump is skewered in the courts for the rest of his life. SCOTUS is already looking the other way as the nation is torn apart. Trump will lose in 2020 even if he wins. It will be more of the same. I cannot see him winning personally because the vote counting will be the deciding factor and the democrats will make sure they are counted with the outcome they want. You haven’t seen vote cheating yet. No, there will be no justice, no moderation, no kumbaya. There will only be more of the same if not worse.

  25. crazyhorsegarden@gmail.com October 14, 2019 at 2:49 pm #

    1. No one knows the future.

    2. There are no aliens from outer space visiting Earth.

    3. There’re no such things as ghosts.

    4. A family’s most precious possession is the virginity of their daughters.

    5.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2019 at 11:18 pm #

      I’d say number two is up in the air. And ghosts do exist. But one and four are absolutely correct.

    • elysianfield October 16, 2019 at 7:18 pm #

      Crazyhorse,
      As to #1…if you are aged, you Do know the future.

      #4? THAT is a cultural construct.
      #5…Never eat Chorizo….

  26. lbs October 14, 2019 at 3:54 pm #

    I think Kunstler is overoptimistic that the coup plotters will be brought to justice.

    90-95% of our journalism community spreads nonsensical propaganda on behalf of the Deep State.

    We don’t know how many people in the federal bureaucracy are Deep State loyalists. A handful? Hundreds? Thousands? The question is how far down the ranks of the CIA, etc., does it go?

    The Deep Staters control the House and probably are even a majority in the Republican Senate.

    The tech giants are close allies of the Deep State.

    Against this is a populist movement with little more than ONE leader (Trump), supported by half the country. There’s no bench when Trump’s term(s) are over. Establishment Republicans will figure they can take back their party when Trump’s gone, but they will find they are badly mistaken. However, with the populist movement lacking experienced legislators and administrators, who’s going to rise up as someone with the stature, and not an excessive amount of baggage, to become the new standard-bearer? Unless a bunch of new leaders emerge out of the woodwork, I expect the baton gets handed off to someone like Don Jr., assuming he’s willing to run.

    • tucsonspur October 14, 2019 at 5:50 pm #

      Yes, after Trump the void, and maybe the Deluge. Hopes will dim and resignation will set in. Don Jr. is right. Junior.

      Few, if any, can climb the Deep State gates. I see no Knight-Errant even engaging, let alone eviscerating the Deep State.

      Trump. The flash-bang Grenade from Gotham.

      • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 7:14 pm #

        After Trump, the gimme folks take over. Just in time to find out there are no resources to gimme onto.

    • Epicur October 14, 2019 at 6:53 pm #

      “90-95% of our journalism community spreads nonsensical propaganda on behalf of the Deep State.”

      Propaganda it is, but, not on their behalf, I think their motive is simply the same – profit. People prefer pleasant lies to hard truth. Lies sell well.

  27. BackRowHeckler October 14, 2019 at 4:33 pm #

    Uh oh

    Chairman Xi Jingping growing impatient with events in Hong Kong.

    Looks like he might be ready to make a move that would put an end to the festivities.

    I wonder how it will play out? Full scale PLA invasion, an entire rifle division mobilized, or more loosely organized, highly mobile assault squads fanning out thru the city, picking demonstrators off one by one, leadership included. Either way, it might get dicey.

    Brh

  28. aibohphobia October 14, 2019 at 4:35 pm #

    As an American living in Canada, the Canadians I know sometimes ask me to explain all this.
    I try to tell them that, even though Trump is a know-nothing blowhard, he has been working to expose the evil deeds of his opponents.
    The fact is, Biden’s son got a payoff position from a Ukrainian energy company after being bounced out of the US Military for cocaine use; Fact is, Biden bragged about strong-arming the Ukrainians, and this footage is still available on YouTube. All this was reported here, and is uncontested.
    Trump does not have to be virtuous or competent to be corrrect about the corruption in his opponents. People are having real trouble here, wrapping their heads around that.

    They, and Americans, also seem to be losing respect for the rules of due process and evidence. I often hear, “I don’t care if the first whistleblower is only repeating hearsay–They should use what he says to get Trump out of there.” and, “Trump needs to go, and soon–Whether it happens legally or not makes no difference to me,” and, “Of course the whistleblowers have to remain anonymous, so Trump can’t have them killed.”

    US Politicians have a long history of finding out dirt on their opponents and using it to promote their own political fortunes. Trump is not doing anything unusual in this respect.

    The only ways I can see to get Trump out of power and maintain civil order are 1) if he voluntarily resigns in a way that convinces his followers that he did so of his own free will, or 2) if he loses the coming election by a clear majority.
    If he is forcibly ousted, I feel that there is a significant risk of civil war. And while we are talking, the ongoing militarization of police departments around the US tells me that government agrees with that assessment.

    • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 5:08 pm #

      Good post.

      A know nothing blowhard?

      How come the economy roared back to life after he started removing regs and got the tax cut?

      How come more minorities are drifting over to the conservative side as their economic situation continues to improve?

      How come tens of thousands attend his rallies everywhere?

      Why is his in your face diplomacy quieting down the foreign situations?

      Why is he the first president in a while trying to get us out of places we do not belong?

      Why is he, by himself, starting to tear apart the Deep State, which has been tearing this country apart?

      No nothing blowhard,, my foot. I think you better redefine your terms.

      • tucsonspur October 14, 2019 at 6:02 pm #

        He’s a fat tube of a life preserver that we’re all clinging to before we go under.

        Remember, we don’t need more growth, more jobs, more consumption. We already have too many people, Dinocars, Triceratrucks and Pteroplanes. Hypertrophy of the Holocene.
        How obscene.

        • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 7:11 pm #

          Hiya Tucson.

          You are right on both counts. He is something the folks are clinging to and hope he has the answers,

          Growth of population we do not need. This, growth of demand we do not need. JHK always says that the Long Emergency will come from negative growth caused by oil scarcity.

          This is my primary beef about the politics today. There is no one focused on what a slow or even negative growth economy is all about. How do we do it? Free wheeling reaction only will be catastrophic. The high point of unemployment in the 1930s was 25%, which could happen again. What does society do with permanent unemployed people, which could happen? Do we need WW3 to pull us out of a future malaise?

          Very low unemployment is required for the American capitalistic system to work. Are all the socialism vs, capitalism arguments moot in the future? Is the safety net going to cripple the country? Hint: already responsible for a big part of $ 22 trillion debt.

          Time will tell, I guess.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 14, 2019 at 11:24 pm #

            Corporate Capitalism is tied by its very nature to endless growth and when that fails (as it must), it lies about it as Mr Kunstler constantly points out. Glad you recognize the first Fact, but I’m puzzled at your resistance to the Reality of what Capitalism is. Please stop conflating late stage or Corporate Capitalism with Free Enterprise and small business.

            Communism also insists on endless Growth. They are in reality, One System.

          • Nightowl October 15, 2019 at 4:34 am #

            A big part of Trump’s approach is based in psychology. The human mind needs to push forward. If you say growth can’t continue (which, is true to a degree), then that statement begs the question of what we do next. People get restless and need purpose.

            If one looks at Trump’s policies, I see no major issue. He is not against cleaner technology, and he is bringing back industries that have been killed off, sacrificed on the altar of globalism. The latter is critical to having a functioning society.

            We need purpose, and that is precisely what the rhetoric is about. The policies are sound, and do not support the idea that Trump thinks that infinite growth is the answer or even feasible.

        • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 2:10 am #

          Hypertrophy of the Holocene! Gee, is that what’s gonna take us back to the Pleistocene?

          • tucsonspur October 15, 2019 at 2:40 am #

            It very well could. Sadly, we won’t have the woolly mammoths or saber tooth cats. I just hope I don’t wind up in something like the ‘Tucson Tar Pits’.

  29. Ishabaka October 14, 2019 at 5:02 pm #

    Where’s Hunter Biden? He’s hiding while the fake news media covers for his crooked daddy – Quid Pro Joe.

    • Nightowl October 15, 2019 at 4:36 am #

      It’s ok. He apparently stuck his head out just long enough for a softball interview in which he states that he will definitely not do that thing that he claims is definitely not illegal again.

      Nothing to see here. He’s going to be a good boy now. He promises.

  30. Pucker October 14, 2019 at 6:53 pm #

    Speaking of Civil War, I wonder if Beto knows that Robert E. Lee freed his slaves in 1862?

    “ Lee’s simplicity and sincerity shine through here—as in his decision at this point to proceed with the instructions in his father-in-law’s will, and have delivered to all of the Custis slaves “their manumission papers,” freeing them as Mr. Custis had wanted.”

    Clouds of Glory: The Life and Legend of Robert E. Lee
    Michael Korda

  31. Pucker October 14, 2019 at 7:16 pm #

    One lacuna in my understanding of the US Civil War is the question of why after Lee invaded Maryland that the central political question of the war metamorphosed from the North’s bullying of the South (As Lee put it: “A Father does not raise an army against his children.”) to the issue of Slavery? The purpose for Lee’s invasion of the North was clear: The Confederate armies had already denuded Virginia and needed to resupply using Northern resources. From that book about Gettysburg, I bet that the Southerners weren’t just resupplying, but were also grabbing escaped slaves? Weird….

    The political propaganda dimension of the US Civil War turned upon Who was invading Whom? In the early stages of the war when the evil Yankees were invading Dixie, the common people in the North and South where the “States Rights” consciousness predominated and slaves were generally recognized as “Property”, the North’s invasion of the South was deemed an invasion and the North beating up on the South. But when the Great General Robert E. Lee invaded Maryland, the political propaganda climate shifted and Dixie became the aggressor, and, thus, the people’s view of what the war was all about fundamentally shifted shifted to the issue of “slavery”? If the Confederates can be faulted on military strategy they should be rebuked for their failure to link propaganda and war and to fight a defensive war rather than play offense in a new Industrial Age of warfare.

    • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 9:26 pm #

      RE Lee is responsible for that. He believed his own press and felt invincible. His debacle at Gettysburg is evidence of his going with his ego instead of Longstreet’s common sense. They never recovered from that battle.

      • Nightowl October 15, 2019 at 4:37 am #

        I believe you mean Beto E. Lee.

  32. BackRowHeckler October 14, 2019 at 7:16 pm #

    Any CFNers suffering from ‘Climate Anxiety?”

    This condition will be entered into DSM 5 pretty soon. No, I’m not being provocative, in UK young people are consulting psychiatrists with a paralyzing fear of the pending ‘Climate Apocalypse’, can’t sleep, can’t eat, won’t leave the house and so on, it’s pretty bad. It’s mostly teenage girls with symptoms of hysteria coming in looking for relief and reassurance

    A whole new school of psychiatric medicine is opening up. Anti depressants, heavy tranquilizers, and intense counselling is in order here.

    Brh

    • Tate October 14, 2019 at 8:48 pm #

      What would Charles Mackay do with the material on offer in the current year?

      • BackRowHeckler October 15, 2019 at 12:12 am #

        He would have a field day, Tate.

        Mackay was a poet and songwriter as well as a nascent sociologist.

    • elysianfield October 16, 2019 at 7:23 pm #

      “. It’s mostly teenage girls with symptoms of hysteria coming in looking for relief and reassurance”

      BRH,
      And why should there not be angst? The “poor dears” are carrying around the entire wealth of their families….

    • Nightowl October 17, 2019 at 3:44 pm #

      No. I do enough recycling, composting, economical heating, and thrifting that I figure I can now replace my aging Merc diesel with a C43 AMG.

      On balance, I come out so far ahead of the Whole Foods class that I may qualify for zero-net-carbon status.

      Cloth sport seats, of course.

  33. Majella October 14, 2019 at 7:27 pm #

    It’s all very confusing, reading JHK & the various posters who harp on this particular string.

    The ‘deep state’ is believed, it seems, to be in control of EVERYTHING – the media, the houses of congress, the tech giants, the FBI & CIA, in fact all the intelligence agencies, the banks, the NOAA, in fact any government-run agency I’m guessing, which will eventually even include the US Postal Service, no doubt, seeing as how the Postmaster-General is a Democrat with the unfortunately beknighted surname of Brennan…

    Anyone with the stones to call Trump out – viz. Ambassador Marie Yavanovitch – can be ‘safely’ dismissed as simply being a contracted functionary of this amorphous, unidentifiable, all-pervading, tentacled beast. such an easy ‘out’ for the non-thinking RWNJ cohort (which seems to be breeding by osmosis in here lately.

    I’ve been trolling through the back catalog of CFN Blogs, the earliest of which is December 2008 – just as the economy was headed to utter melt-down.

    JHK makes much of the imminent, fatal & final demise of the US car manufacturing industry, the imminent bankruptcy of California, the imminent collapse of the economy in general. All no doubt true, but certainly premature, apparently.

    One thing for sure, there’s no reference to any ‘deep state’ back then.

    Looking to see when it first arose in JHK’s philosophy…it will pretty recent being around November/December 2016. Here’s the first that mentions it in the title:

    https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/deepening-deep-state/

    …though he does refer to “Deep State of Rackets” a couple of blogs earlier.

    So, once again, I’d appreciate it if someone could explain it again. I know Volodya did some weeks back, and it sort of gelled at the time, but the constant harping references from JohnAZ et al has diluted the meaning again, for me.

    • tucsonspur October 14, 2019 at 8:23 pm #

      Deep often implies hidden. And if things are hidden you just can’t see them. My take is that most of us knew that there were movers and shakers who operated pretty much behind the scenes, but after Trump was elected they were forced to come out of hiding to effectuate the coup, and thus revealed their number and powerful positions in the DOJ, FBI, CIA, etc. Surprise!!

      Trump’s election unearthed and exposed the wretched weasels with hidden power, those who then became perpetraitors, and thus proved the existence of and the insidiousness of the Deep State’s Deep Shit.

      • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 10:10 pm #

        The Deep State was exposed by the election of Trump as the Federal government’s proponents, you can name them, developed greatly during the Obama administration. Just the number of employees and the economy of DC grew greatly during the Obama years. To the tune of $10 trillion dollars of debt. These are people that believe in government controlling the country. They also believe in uniparty control. They are ubiquitous, throughout the country, believing in government control.

        Trump ran against this institution, saying he was going to drain the swamp. His successes at tearing them down, and their violent reaction belies their existence. Their ascent to total control was given a huge setback by Trump’s election. He has been successful at knocking them down a peg or two. The failure of the Mueller report and the initiation of the Barr investigations into Russiagate is what scares the heck out of the Deep State.

        The Deep State was successful as long as no one knew they existed, and they worked at it well. What indicated their existence to me was the way all the Democratic propaganda showed up on all the cable stations with the exact wording at the same time. Then the coordination of events like Portland and Charlottesville were Both a little too synchronized to be coincidence. Then the coordination from the Left and the globalists came to light, including the funding of demonstrations and Antifa activity by George Soros.

        They have to get Trump out of there to continue their ascent to control, it is mandatory. So many closets with skeletons in them.

        My witnessing the term Deep State being used was first on Fox News, especially Hannity and the JHK started using it along with various CFNers.

        The Deep State is denied by anti-Trumpers because it’s belief system is theirs. For some reason, they want the government to control everything in their lives.

        Look around, it is all around you.

        • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 10:12 pm #

          Actually, I think it was Bill O’Reilly that I heard used the term first.

        • Nightowl October 15, 2019 at 4:49 am #

          Yeah, but you are calling it Deep State, and that just sounds so, you know, conspiracy-y.

          So, any time anyone points out evidence that alphabet agency/high-level govt. players are involved in an international network that all seem to share the same motives, participate in color revolutions in countries they are on tape extorting, carry out presidential coup attempts, and fund and execute mass and high-level surveillance projects, you are immediately discredited because you know, conspiracy.

          Meanwhile, you also can’t admit what we serious people clearly all have heard is true: Poootin “meddled” in the election, and this in-no-way nebulously buzzword is clearly what got the Cheeto in office.

          All of my favorite late-night TV hosts tell me this, and despite the retracted and memory-holed stories, I know that the McMedia is also very reliable on this issue.

          You are most certainly an uneducated redneck and conspiracy theorist.

          How dare you.

    • Tate October 14, 2019 at 8:42 pm #

      The term comes originally from a description of the Turkish government if memory serves.

      What is ‘RWNJ’? Are you going to start using that acronym as often as JohnAZ uses “Deep State?

      • Majella October 14, 2019 at 10:40 pm #

        RWNJ? Can’t you figure it out?

        • Q. Shtik October 15, 2019 at 12:02 am #

          Something something new jersey?

          • Majella October 15, 2019 at 5:06 am #

            Something Something Nut Job?

        • Tate October 15, 2019 at 1:26 am #

          Really Wonderful Nifty Jets? The ones who jumped the Sharks?

        • axisboldaslove October 15, 2019 at 3:23 am #

          I know exactly what you mean, Majella, and yes, they seem to be multiplying here these last few years.

          And then read some of the racist comments earlier here about those “poor Indigenous elders” and how anyone who questions the great virtue of Columbus must be “utter traitor” and “scum”. Wow- pretty amazing the turn-around in the overall make-up of those who follow this blog. Very interesting.

          As for JHK’s on-going attention to “deep state” matters in these blogs- I personally find it a bit obsessive and would love to hear our very bright and intelligent host talk about other matters (he certainly has the wealth of knowledge and information!), but I will say, I do think his motives for this singular focus are sincere. Of that, I am sure.

          • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 9:41 am #

            I find it funny how people hold themselves up as if they have a higher standard than those around them but ultimately in their conversations they refer to “the others” as “they” just the same as anyone else. Isn’t it funny how life is always us versus them of one kind or another? And of course if we lived without all of the conveniences and pleasantries of the modern world I am sure the us versus them aspect would be much harsher. And even more amazing is how people expect someone like Mr. K to write exactly what they wish to see. As if Mr. K is like their own personal writer. Sort of like how people make up their own personal Jesus’.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2019 at 1:41 pm #

            Everything you have and are is a result of the Conquest and the Conquerors. How noble of you to insult them – without giving up the fruits of the Conquest that have been bequeathed to you.

            Give them up and go back to Europe – or do Reverence. Take what you want but pay the price.

            Indians were the Native Americans? C’mon, that’s just stupid….

        • Nightowl October 15, 2019 at 4:51 am #

          LGBTQP-RWNJ?

          • benr October 15, 2019 at 7:36 am #

            LGBTQP-WNJ

            Drop the R in favor of LWNJ or you just could use Democrat as anyone still in favor of that party swims in a toxic sea of insanity and self destructive policy.

      • hmuller October 15, 2019 at 10:15 am #

        RWNJ = Right Wing Nut Job. By which the user unintentionally means any clear thinking responsible person.

    • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 2:22 am #

      So do you believe that other than a rogue actor here or there the government, media, and other institutions mostly function to affect positive social and cultural developments in open and transparent ways most of the time?

  34. Pucker October 14, 2019 at 7:33 pm #

    Abraham Lincoln, who was tall, wore a stove pipe hat at the behest of his wife, Mary Lincoln, who was short. Mary thought that it would make her husband look taller.

    Towards the end of the US Civil War, “Honest Abe” Lincoln, for political reasons, wanted his son “Little Abe” to join the Union Army so that the common people who had sacrificed so much didn’t get the impression that the Lincoln’s were “Sitting This One Out” and that it was just about saving “Honest Abe’s” political career. So “Honest Abe” pressured General Grant to give his son (“Hunter Biden”) an administrative job on Grant’s staff safe away from the fighting. In contrast, Robert E. Lee’s sons were all frontline soldiers in the Army of Northern Virginia. “Honest Abe” may have been less of the alleged “Great Man” and more of your typical politician? A bit of a Pussy….

    • hmuller October 14, 2019 at 8:14 pm #

      Little Abe was actually named Robert Todd Lincoln (1843-1926). The only one of four Lincoln children to reach adulthood and procreate. Yes, he served on Grant’s staff as a captain for 4 months starting in February 1865.

      • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 9:22 pm #

        I think he became a lawyer,

      • BackRowHeckler October 15, 2019 at 12:41 am #

        Robert Todd Lincoln’s house, in Manchester Vt, a little north of Bennington on US 7, an estate called Hildene, is a museum now you can pay a few $$$ and walk around in, also beautiful, well cared for grounds. Full of Lincoln family artifacts and interesting things.

        Manchester’s a pretty little New England town but at some point in the 80s decided to become a tourist destination, built factory outlet stores, motels etc, detracting from the original charm of the place IMHO.

        A full scale bio was written about Robert Lincoln, released about 15 years ago I believe.

        If I can recall correctly Robert Lincoln was a wealthy and successful railroad lawyer like his father, his only govt service being for a few years Sec of War in the 1880s, which was controversial because of an abandoned naval expedition in the Arctic he got blamed for. Teddy Roosevelt wanted Robert for his own Republican administration but Robert by that time wanted nothing more to do with govt, and refused

        He had 2 girls, which were a great disappointment to him.

        US Rt 7 is an interesting road, at one time the main road into New England out of NYC. Lot of history on that road.

        Brh

    • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 2:38 am #

      I wish they were honored as our Founding Fathers too….

      https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e63im59ZYJE/Td86olBigbI/AAAAAAAAAlo/iRr3M6945do/s1600/Robert+E+Lee+Sons.jpg

  35. HapMan October 14, 2019 at 7:47 pm #

    Kunstler’s focus in this post is on points of process (and alleged abuses of same) regarding Congress, agency and federal employees’ responses to Trump. So as much as I think Trump’s conduct is the far more serious problem for our country, I will address some of these points.

    First, the focus on the whistleblower- his/her identity or motive, or the propriety or admissibility of the report – is beside the point, since the critical information in the report has been confirmed by the White House through its release of its own call summary (ie, the “transcript”) and Trump’s own statements. As a result, we now know that Trump asked the Ukrainian president to investigate Trump’s main political rival and his son (and only them) at the same time that Trump was holding up the release of military aid to Ukraine. All the report author did was bring this accurate information to the attention of higher-ups within the relevant agency and ultimately to Congress and the American public through an established procedure. So is the point that this information should have been concealed from all of us? If so, why?

    Second, the legal concept of due process has no relevance to an impeachment proceeding in the Senate. The one and only consequence of a conviction in the Senate is that Trump will cease to be president; he will otherwise be a free man. Senators will be free to discount evidence that would not be admissible in court or that they distrust, if they wish. In any case the whistleblower report has been made superfluous by the transcript, so it might not even be part of the House’s evidence package – it doesn’t need to be. Due process WILL be relevant if Trump is criminally charged after leaving office, and evidence that is used in a Senate impeachment trial will in many cases not be admissible then.

    On that last point, I am sure that Trump’s lawyers have advised him that he is subject to criminal prosecution for violation of campaign finance law (Stormy Daniels payment) and obstruction (various acts catalogued in the Mueller Report) after he leaves office, so I won’t be surprised if part of the endgame for the great dealmaker will be a pardon-for-resignation deal.

    • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 9:22 pm #

      I keep seeing folks talking about Trump’s crimes and being clobbered when he leaves office.

      Also, Project Veritas guy recorded Zucker of CNN and his hate filled vitriol projected at Trump. They were together with the Apprentice? CNN and its antiTrump crap reporting stems from this one guy who directs his talking heads to clobber Trump rather than report the real news.

      Okay, anti-Trumpers, what did this guy do prior to running for President that makes people hate him so much? I am seeking answers as I am ignorant of his pre campaign days over the decades. I know about some of his playboy exploits, but little about his business exploits. And business failures do not count as that is part of being a high risk entrepreneur.

      • HapMan October 14, 2019 at 9:51 pm #

        JohnAZ, I’m not sure what this has to do with my post, but in any case I don’t think the clear majority of Americans who voted against Trump, consistently disapprove of his performance in office or (according to the latest FoxNews poll) support the impeachment inquiry care one way or the other about what he did when he was in the private sector, and we would be more than happy to see him return to it.

        • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 10:33 pm #

          Just added on to your post.

          Update, the 51% impeachment Fox poll was a fraud and the real numbers were 44% for and 44% against. Over representation of Democrats was the reason given.

          • HapMan October 14, 2019 at 10:43 pm #

            As of right now, Fox still posts the results of that poll on its website. Can you provide a link that supports what you just said about it being a fraud? I’ll leave it to other readers here to decide for themselves if it’s credible.

          • Nightowl October 15, 2019 at 4:52 am #

            Prove the poll is credible. Show the methodology.

            The burden of proof is on you.

          • benr October 15, 2019 at 7:43 am #

            @hapman

            None of the polls are credible.
            The vast majority of people who support Trump are quiet about it because they don’t want to be assaulted verbally or physically.
            They also don’t want to be doxed or have their food and drink spit in.
            The let in this country has become so vile it really is that bad now.
            Hell Antifa is now repotedly attacking Democrat outposts because the DNC is not swinging enough to the left for these nutty communist scum.

  36. KesaAnna October 14, 2019 at 7:50 pm #

    ” Trump is a criminal. Deal with it. ”

    so are you.

    No , I don’t know the first thing about you.

    But I don’t have to know anything about you.

    I have actually sat down and read a typical states criminal code.

    So I know that if you are breathing , you have doubtless committed one , two , three , or fifteen felonies over the years.

    And you aren’t dealing with it.

    Though , neither are most people , neither is the average regular on this blog.

    and of course things like that have a lot more to do with why North America is starting to resemble Russia or Brazil ,

    much more than some super – smart Deep State.

    • JohnAZ October 14, 2019 at 9:12 pm #

      KesaAnna

      Super smart Deep State? No way. Really dumb Deep State being outfoxed by a NY real estate mogul. Politicians are not smart! Businessmen are!

    • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 2:57 am #

      The problem is finding balance. The state can either be bloated and despotic with far too much power or de-fanged, weak, and unresponsive. But most of the time there doesnt seem to be a reasonably functioning set of checks and balances. So we typically get too much (Russia) or too little (Somalia). Does any country have the right balance? Are there any countries that don’t have unenforced laws on the books? I would guess that such a country would likely be small and uncomplicated.

    • elysianfield October 16, 2019 at 7:27 pm #

      “So I know that if you are breathing , you have doubtless committed one , two , three , or fifteen felonies over the years. ”

      Kesa,
      You don’t have pictures, the witnesses lie. I was young and needed the money….

  37. Pucker October 14, 2019 at 7:58 pm #

    Chris Hedges – “Our Invisible Government”

    https://www.truthdig.com/articles/our-invisible-government/

  38. Pucker October 14, 2019 at 8:55 pm #

    Robert E. Lee wasn’t fighting to preserve the institution of slavery. Lee freed his slaves to send a message to other Southerners to free their slaves as well. Lee was the moral paragon of the South; he led by example. He went against his self interest to give up his property to do what was right, unlike Lincoln. Robert E. Lee was a Great Man. And Beto wants to tear down Lee’s statue. Ignorant Dumb Fuck….

    • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 3:05 am #

      Oh does he! Well since he wants to fit right in with the illegal invaders then he should be deported like one. He represents the decadence of this age. General Lee was and is and always will be someone to look up to. Beto is just one to look at. Big difference but most of us don’t get it or don’t want to now.

  39. Pucker October 14, 2019 at 10:24 pm #

    A bloke who overcame his club foot handicap to become a proficient folk dancer? Don’t ever let let your short-comings keep you from realizing your Full Potential.

    Sidney Gottlieb (born Joseph Scheider; August 3, 1918 – March 7, 1999) was an American chemist and spymaster best known for his involvement with the Central Intelligence Agency’s 1950s and ’60s assassination attempts and mind control program, known as Project MKUltra. In 1951, aged 33, Gottlieb joined the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). As a poison expert, he headed the chemical division of the Technical Services Staff (TSS). Gottlieb became known as the “Black Sorcerer” and the “Dirty Trickster.”[2] He supervised preparations of lethal poisons and drug experiments in mind control. A stutterer since childhood, Gottlieb earned a master’s degree in speech therapy from San Jose State University after retiring from the CIA. He had a club foot, which kept him out of service in World War II but did not prevent his pursuit of folk dancing, a lifelong passion.[1

    • Pucker October 15, 2019 at 1:23 am #

      [Scene from the movie “Full Metal Jacket”]

      “We’re you born a slimy, worthless, walrus-looking piece of shit, Private Pyle, or did you have to work at it?!”

      Chasten
      ?tigieg
      @Chas10Buttigieg
      ·
      Oct 14
      I believe there is good within all of us. If you choose to see the human, the fragile, the confused, and the hurting in all of those around you, then you understand the importance of connecting with everyone on a human level, too.

    • K-Dog October 15, 2019 at 2:14 am #

      One of his few emotional bonds was with his pet canary. He loved to hold and stroke it. When the bird died, he was deeply pained.

    • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2019 at 1:45 pm #

      Probably just wanted to avoid the draft. His club foot didn’t keep him out of the club now, did it?

    • Tate October 15, 2019 at 2:21 pm #

      There’s club feet & then there’s club feet. For some reason, I always think of someone playing golf with one. Totally useless for driving of course. I know it’s an absurd image & extremely insensitive, but hey, that’s just me!

    • elysianfield October 16, 2019 at 7:33 pm #

      “San Jose State University”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBPQT2Ia8fU

  40. BackRowHeckler October 15, 2019 at 3:02 am #

    Heavy rain and wind forecast for later in the week.

    I feel a bout of ‘Climate Anxiety’ coming on.

    We used to call it ‘the blues’. Now is is climate anxiety and psychiatric help is imperative. You know that feeling you get on a rainy day and you’re trapped inside your house, dark sky looks like it was dredged up from the bottom of the North Atlantic, the pervasive gloom that engulfs everything. I can understand climate protesters in London imploring Mayor Ali Khan to do something about the weather, in fact shutting down the entire city demanding he do something to make the sun shine, weather in London being so deplorable.

    KDog does the sun ever shine in Seattle? Do you think the fact that it rains every day where you live has anything to do with your pessimistic view of the future? Yes, so much depends on the weather.

    Brh

    • BackRowHeckler October 15, 2019 at 3:27 am #

      “Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds”

      Mackay explains Popular Delusions can go on for a long time, decades, centuries even. Witch hunting lasted from the 13th century to nearly 1700. Some popular delusions, like Tulip Mania and the Real Estate Bubble, unravel rather quickly. My prediction on the Climate Extinction delusion is that activists will eventually gain positions of power in the energy industry and in national govts and begin implementing some of their policies of restricting the use of oil, coal nuclear power and natgas, and even restricting mining coal and exploring and drilling for oil, creating shortages, driving energy prices to astronomical levels, resulting in national economic chaos, with the trucking industry paralyzed, and people freezing and starving inside their houses all over the north country. Reality will set in, the Laws of Thermodynamics will assert themselves, and that will put an end to this climate extinction nonsense. It might take a few years.

      Brh

    • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 6:53 am #

      I can understand climate protesters in London imploring Mayor Ali Khan to do something about the weather, in fact shutting down the entire city demanding he do something to make the sun shine, weather in London being so deplorable.

      brh, I fully endorse your opinion that there is a lot of naivety abroad among the ‘climate protesters’, despite them knowing a lot more than you do about the actual climate crisis, as opposed to the best ways of mitigating it.

      BUT, if you’re going to criticise people for being childish, then it ill behoves you to talk much more childishly than them.

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49106092

      25 July 2019:

      UK heatwave: Second hottest day on record leads to travel chaos

      he UK has recorded its second hottest day ever, with temperatures reaching 38.1C (100.6F) in Cambridge.

      “It breaks the previous record for the hottest day in July of 36.7C, and falls just short of the all-time high of 38.5C, reached in 2003.

      “Commuters faced disruption after Network Rail reported a number of heat-related incidents on the railway.

      “Forecasters warned the heat could lead to heavy rain in some areas, causing more disruption to travellers.

      “The Met Office said the temperature reading from Cambridge was only the second time the UK had gone over 100F.

      “Elsewhere in Europe, new high temperature records were set in France, Germany and the Netherlands.”

      You want to do something positive and grown up? Go and speak to your local ‘climate protesters’ who annoy you so much. You annoy them as well so some middle ground would be a good thing to find.
      endeavours have brought to us, but you would like them to take a broader view of the consequences of simplistic solutions that haven’t been thought through properly and debated in the public space to boot.

      That would make you more grown up than them for the duration of the exchange. Currently, you have nothing useful to tell them about reality. And nothing to demonstrate to them about how real adults think.

      • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 6:56 am #

        Sorry, deleted a chunk by accident:

        “Tell them you accept the evidence that 50 years of scientific endeavour have brought us, but…

      • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 7:01 am #

        PS you’ll remember 2003 (mentioned in my response) as the year 35,000 people died in Europe as a result of the heatwave.

        Many of them died in Paris. i was there (for work) on the hottest weekend of that heatwave. It was horrendous. Getting off the plane at 10 o’clock at night was like walking into an oven. I was never so glad in my whole life to get back to Scotland.

      • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 8:22 am #

        Incidentally, renewables make up 74% of gross electricity production in Scotland (25% of that of the whole UK, of which we comprise less than 10% of the population).

        Wind, wave and tide make up a large proportion of that and those promise massive increased potential (as anyone sailing round the north of Scotland would tell you, but we are also blessed with most of the UK’s hydropower. Thankfully the tide doesn’t stop even when the wind isn’t doing it’s worst (or best).

        However, cars are mostly like cars anywhere else, and our homes are currently mostly heated with gas, like most of the UK. That will have to change anyway, as it runs down (presumably even in Russia, from whence some of it comes).

        My view is that, since oil is going to be sorely missed by our pharmaceutical industry, in due course, which is going to mean a lot of us will get an early demise instead of modern medicine (I foresee a poppy explosion), it would be wise to leverage the remaining oil to as great an extent as is possible, while planning for a power-down in the longer (but possibly not that much longer) term.

        Naturally nothing this sensible is likely to happen, but we should do what we can do, nevertheless, instead of continuously bleating ‘but, China’.

        I find myself wondering, in passing, though, if you’re one of those people who, faced with a bunch of looters during a blackout, would get stuck in yourself because ‘everyone else is doing it’.

        Re your post on the other thread, to which I was unable to reply because of the internet gremlins, you’re right about the UK being a backwater. Although you wouldn’t think it from listening to the likes of BoJo, Gove or Rees-Mogg. Sunlit uplands covered in unicorns farting rainbows is where it’s at, in the fullness of time, apparently, post Brexit.

        And could I mention in passing, also, that the UK isn’t ‘an island’, as you described it? Although if it were, that would have made the Brexit negotiations so much easier, wouldn’t it?

      • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2019 at 1:47 pm #

        Greta said the Cult will continue its disruptions until world capitulates. Her angry little face is thrilling to you?

        • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

          I don’t watch Greta. Sorry to disappoint you.

      • BackRowHeckler October 15, 2019 at 2:08 pm #

        That’s my point GA. From what I’ve been reading in The Guardian there seems to be an expectation out there that all be have to do is unplug fossil fuel inputs, plug in ‘renewables’ and go on our merry way easy peasy, and all that’s stopping it is evil deniers and oil companies. I don’t think it’s going to work out that way. Actually, JHK, in ‘The Long Emergency’ , describes exactly why it won’t work that way.

        Brh

        • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 8:26 pm #

          I’ve read the Long Emergency, brh. Nowhere do I recall JHK rejecting the conclusions of the last 50 years of climate science.

          I’m not talking about the Guardian or expectations ‘out there’. Why would anyone waste their time talking about serious mitigation issues with people who won’t even accept evidence of the problem? One thing at a time.

          Deniers have gone from (a) there’s no warming, to (2) OK there’s warming but you can’t prove it’s anthropogenic, to (3) OK, but even if it’s happening and it’s anthropogenic, there’s nothing we can do about it. Position (3) is what the fossil-fuel lobby has been spending millions on cultivating as a belief for decades. Their ploy seems to have worked on you, which is disappointing.

          I think there is much we can still do to mitigate the situation. We can’t stop it or even keep it to the levels originally hoped because so many people with the money and power to do so have deliberately muddied the waters.

      • Exscotticus October 15, 2019 at 4:20 pm #

        GreenAlba, a wise man once said: Don’t bring problems to the table without offering solutions.

        Thus far, we see a lot of consternacious energy with little in the way of constructive policy. Is anyone denying the environment is being stressed in numerous ways? From air to water? Above and below? Habitat loss, extinctions, etc.?

        The problem is that partisans do what partisans do: take issues and make them partisan when they don’t have to be. There’s so much we can agree on regardless of whether or not we agree that sea levels will rise x many inches in y many years. That’s a detail we don’t need to agree on to implement bipartisan policy amenable to most.

        • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 9:43 am #

          Exscotticus, your second paragraph is irrelevant to the issue. We are not so limited in our brain bandwidth that we can’t work on more than one problem at once. And there are people all over the place actually doing what they can as we speak. But if climate change is adding to the stress on land, water, wildlife and biodiversity, it needs to be taken into consideration.

          You can’t agree on solutions until you bring the problem to the table. i didn’t bring it to the table – it invited itself. Like the elephant in the room generally does.

          • Exscotticus October 16, 2019 at 10:09 am #

            LOL! Climate change didn’t bring itself anywhere! You and people like you are in a tizzy over it because the MSM promotes it like a giant comet on the verge of hitting earth. You’ve been played. Manufactured consent, pure and simple.

            The fact that the MSM doesn’t give a hoot about overpopulation and its effect on the environment is proof of this. If they focussed on overpopulation the way they focus on climate, you’d be demanding eugenics laws.

            More people died from murder in overcrowded cities last year than from climate change.

            >>> And there are people all over the place actually doing what they can as we speak.

            Doing what exactly? Corssing the Atlantic in a high-tech multi-million-dollar ocean-racing yacht? Please.

  41. BackRowHeckler October 15, 2019 at 3:35 am #

    In the Thirty Years War, 1618-1648, in central Europe, at least 40,000 ‘witches’ were burned at the stake. Yes, yes, we complain about endless war, but there was a war that outlasted a generation and killed at least 7 million human beings.

    • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 9:49 am #

      This is a good point Brh and thank you for reminding us. History is full of human misery, suffering, cruelty and death. Good things happened too! But many people seem to think everything is so utterly horrible now. We are living in a time of relative peace and prosperity comparatively speaking. Perhaps a taste of the ancient days would help put things into perspective for us? If that were the case I think the Climate Extinction crowd and people of that ilk would blink first.

      • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 10:09 am #

        “If that were the case I think the Climate Extinction crowd and people of that ilk would blink first.”

        Hopefully the best of the climate extinction crowd will be able to contain two different thoughts in their head at once, so lessons from the Thirty Years War – or even the Hundred Years War – will not prevent them from realising that this is nevertheless 2019 and we have created a massive climate problem for ourselves since those murderous days. And there are an awful lot more people for climate disruption to kill. Along with its pal, resource depletion. The two horsemen of the real apocalypse.

        ‘People of that ilk’. Incredible. Among the first people in the US to take climate change seriously, decades ago, were your Defence Department, because they were able to figure out pretty quickly how it was going to impact America’s security. Maybe you’ll get there eventually too. But probably not, until it’s staring you in the face.

        • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 10:30 am #

          We should add overpopulation to the mix, of course – the countries with the highest birthrates often tend to also be the ones most at risk from climate change, so climate disruption will reduce their populations first. Some people will like that.

          • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

            But you missed the point of the comment. Terrible things are happening now. The point is that terrible things have always been and will always be. It is built in to human nature. Another thing built in to human nature is that humans have never been the best long term planners and thinkers. That probably comes from the fact that the normal human life span was not more than 40 or 50 years for the lucky ones long ago. And is now 70 to 80 with modern technology. Flashes in the pan in other words given the enormous scale of time and space. Most people are going to busy themselves with the here and now. Like you, I would prefer long term thinking and planning. But we have the leisure to think this way. The Climate Extinction crowd has the leisure in our society to do what they do. In a different age they would be busy toiling in fields if they wished to eat. As we all would be. You have said that despite any change in climate the Earth will remain for billions of years. So think about it. Who is going to commit to a dramatic decrease in standards of living in order to get the ocean not to rise 20 inches or whatever in the next 50 years? That is, if the Earth even really works like that and events unfold exactly and only as predicted. I would rather think habitat destruction and pollution are more immediate environmental problems that need to be dealt with.

          • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 1:40 pm #

            Not a thing you have said invalidates the issues resulting from climate change. And the point you folks always keep missing is that it’s going to cost the global economy far more in the long term not to do anything. You’re going to pay for it anyway and far more dearly – why is that so hard to understand?

            Also, presumably you are aware of what that extra CO2 is doing to marine life as well as the atmosphere?

            “Who is going to commit to a dramatic decrease in standards of living in order to get the ocean not to rise 20 inches or whatever in the next 50 years? ”

            Well it would be nice if the ones with children and grandchildren gave a stuff, just for starters. But, like I said, it’s going to cost much more to do nothing (read the Stern report), so that decrease in standard of living is going to hit you anyway, but you’ll get it along with sea-level rise, and more intense storms, droughts, wildfires and floods.

            Not very intelligent for the most intelligent species on the planet. But if you think 26 inches isn’t much of a sea-level rise for the totality of coastal cities in the world, my mind can only stay boggled by your complacency.

            And when I said the earth would be here for billions of years I didn’t say there would be life on it.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2019 at 1:50 pm #

            The warmer and more wet, the more life. Take a trip to the tropics. Carbon is what plants like. Animals like plants. Animals like the animals that like plants. Greta hates all human life. Has the Cult explained if they want human extinction or if they don’t want it? Bet they don’t know themselves…..

          • JohnAZ October 15, 2019 at 2:02 pm #

            You are both right here and if you look at each other’s posts you would realize it.

            I was out this morning and noticed the brown crud hanging over the highways, and only the highways. Why? Easy, Diesel engines. Semis use the highways.

            Politics is preventing the move towards cleaner combustion and the gradual elimination of fossil fuels where necessary. We are allowing the creep show in DC to stop progress. And Left, do not claim the upper road on this, if it does not give poll numbers to promote your power quest, it is not a concern to you.

            I laugh at the West Coast and their “attack” on pollution. Plastic straws, indeed. Recycling, ha. Latest info shows that there is too much recycling of plastics and a percentage ends up in the ocean or landfills anyway.

            Looking for solutions?

            1. Work to eliminate Diesel engines, their particulate pollution is visible and is proving to be dangerous to humans. Electric trucks, or gas engines are better than diesels. Now!

            2. Eliminate disposable plastics, all of them. Paper, metal, cloth take their place. All breakdown quickly in land fills or the ocean, and they do not float. Metals can be recycled.

            3. Transportation. In the cities expand the rent a bike, rent a scooter, rent a smart car method of transport, and electrify these fleets. The big issue is commuters and state to state transport. Cars need to be converted to electric, period. The FF lobby must be defeated on this. Government money should be helping the likes of Elon Musk to develop a 500 mile battery pack for Tesla cars and spread the technology to all car builders over the years. The government should subsidize the difference between gas and electric and give big tax breaks to folks that build recharge stations everywhere. The more electric cars sold, the faster the changeover will occur. Interstate trucking, electric with battery capacities to do ten hours. This is one place the government could help by support and not directive, and it would work. I am noticing more and mor Tesla’s on the road, so work to accelerate the trend.

            4. Railroads. Electrify. I am not sure if RR will be able to compete with the car electrification and if not use the RR for freight.

            5. Electricity availability. Start building electric plants now, and nationalize this. Decide on how to generate, gas, nuclear or even clean coal, if possible. Then build thousands of them to supply the additional amperage that will be eventually required as oil declines one way or the other.

            6. Airlines. Hard to substitute here, electric will never be possible here. Maybe just optimize engine performance and go on. High speed rail maybe? This will require a culture change so it will be difficult.

            7. International. Planes or boats? This also requires a slowdown change of culture.

            If the Deep State will ever get around to actually supporting the public, a lot of progress could be made. This is one place where I disagree with Trump and his just ignoring the pollution situation because it is inconvenient.

            JFK said the Moon race was needed not because it was easy, but because it was hard. We got the computer age from the space race, what can we get from electrification race?

            Elon, quit worrying about Mars and get those cars of yours to be competitive. Remember Henry Ford, he did it.

          • Tate October 15, 2019 at 2:04 pm #

            Technically, it may reduce their populations first, those that remain “there,” but by then “they” will be “here.” They know that we will take them in. As long as the air land & sea routes are functional, they will keep coming. And their high birthrates will continue the same trajectories for several generations after they come here, long enough that they will replace us.

            Why is this important? Because our “magic dirt” is not going to suddenly transform them to become like us. It may happen after hundreds of years of living among us, but not soon enough for our civilization to survive the change.

            But this is a done deal. All we can do is try to figure out ways of surviving the reckoning with our greatly reduced numbers.

          • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 2:05 pm #

            I’ve seen some ‘arguments’ in my time, but that’s just tragic.

          • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 2:06 pm #

            Sorry, that was to Janos, since the other comments weren’t there when I responded.

          • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 2:39 pm #

            Actually it was the most critically important comment that he made because it is the very core of the truth. A warmer world simply has more life than a colder world. Plants thrive on CO2. The Earth is literally greener when CO2 levels are elevated. There were times in the past when tropical climates could be found north of the Arctic Circle. Just imagine if Greenland was actually green! Don’t you think there would be a lot more life in Greenland as opposed to what it is now? A rock with a mile of ice on top of it. But yet you just storm through that fact like it doesn’t exist. Are there complications? Of course! This is life. Higher sea levels in a warmer world mean encroaching seas on the coasts. But life will go on. It always has. It’s not that your concerns are not valid. But its like you are missing the trees for the forest or whatever that saying is.

          • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 3:25 pm #

            No, SSL, it’s just that I’ve read a whole lot more about it than you have. And I know how little Janos knows about science.

            The ‘CO2 is plantfood’ meme is one of the oldest and daftest around. A little knowledge, as they say, is a dangerous thing.

            But here’s a quickie:

            https://skepticalscience.com/co2-plant-food.htm

            I’ll be giving you some MCQs on it later.

            Kidding.

          • SoftStarLight October 16, 2019 at 1:06 am #

            Oh I’ve always loved pop quizzes! Ok so I take your point. There are other factors that must be considered and we can’t assume increased CO2 will mean lush, beautiful plants everywhere and all the time. But where does the assumption that a warmer world will lead to more widespread dry conditions come from? Haven’t there been times in the past when the Earth was warmer and drier, as well as times of warmer and wetter conditions?

          • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 5:32 am #

            “But where does the assumption that a warmer world will lead to more widespread dry conditions come from? ”

            It comes from looking beyond Louisiana. Now.

            It is NOW leading to longer droughts (speak to Australian farmers, but I believe you have issues at home too; also those Guatemalans coming your way).

            But you are also seeing (well, you clearly aren’t) record floods, increasing wildfires etc. Re droughts and floods, if the ground is parched it doesn’t absorb the water when the floods eventually break, so the floods do more damage. Likewise if the ground is constantly saturated by increased rain, there’s nowhere for the next bout of rain to go. Two scenarios, same conclusion.

            I can only assume you don’t pay too much attention to what goes on in other countries unless it involves immigrants or refugees.

            A warmer world is a world with a warmer atmosphere (and warmer oceans). A warmer atmosphere means an atmosphere with more energy. More energy means more extreme weather. A warmer atmosphere also means one that can pick up more moisture and dump it unceremoniously on the fruits of your labour just when you were hoping to harvest them. Or it can just frazzle your crops instead (see Moscow region a decade ago).

            https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-heat-fires/russia-swelters-in-heatwave-many-crops-destroyed-idUSTRE66F2LX20100716

            Do you actually remember this or were you too busy worrying about people’s skin colour? Moscow, for goodness’ sake!

          • elysianfield October 16, 2019 at 7:39 pm #

            “Greta hates all human life.”

            Janos,
            I will not comment upon Greta, nor make any suggestions as to what I might invite her to do, considering she is not at the age of majority in the U.S., and further considering that our betters have no sense of humor regarding this fact.

          • Majella October 17, 2019 at 2:44 am #

            JohnnAZ – you used a dirty word! ‘nationalize’! Isn’t that what those goddam Commies do? The ones you rail against, about getting out of the way of saintly ‘Capital’?

          • Majella October 17, 2019 at 3:50 am #

            Green Alba – grey find with that article. I was amused to learn that the Russians have an ‘Emergency Ministry’ -probably always busy even before Chernobyl.

            On other matters, it’s great to see you back and in full voice. may I take it your treatment is not too debilitating?

          • GreenAlba October 17, 2019 at 8:03 am #

            Thanks, Majella. I never mean to post that much – or indeed at all – but one gets sucked in, often by professional contrarians!

            Treatment all fine, thanks. Pretty discreet, thanks to my delightful Asian NHS surgeon with whom Janos would not have been able to cope!). Just waiting for dates to be irradiated for a few weeks. 🙂

            All good – been very lucky.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2019 at 4:12 pm #

          The Plants do not hate the Carbon they dote on, they love it so much that they consume it. Likewise, the herbivores do not hate the herbs they eat anymore than you hate ice cream. You love ice cream. And the Cat does not hate the Mouse – Oh No he does not! Similarly, I do not hate you, Alba. You are ideological Ice Cream to me…..

          • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 8:46 pm #

            For goodness’ sake, Janos, get some help. There are charities out there keen to support you.

        • Majella October 17, 2019 at 3:55 am #

          I guess the DOD is an organ of the ‘deep state’ and is conspiring against all the honest sincere white people.

  42. BackRowHeckler October 15, 2019 at 5:02 am #

    Typhus was a big killer in The Thirty Years War.

    Isn’t typhus rampant in the People’s Republic of Los Angeles, west coast Woke Paradise.

    Typhus is spread in LA by fleas living on millions of rats biting the tens of thousands of vagrants living on the streets.

    Do you remember that scene in 1984 when Winston Smith is making his way home thru the squalid, rat infested, poverty stricken, rubble strewn streets of London, and blaring at him thru public broadpeakers are loud exhortations of peace and plenty in airstrip 1, of increases in production of all commodities, of how wonderful life is for all? I can picture self aggrandizing public broadcasts on the streets of LA, the city government patting itself on the back, reassuring 80,000 vagrants that thanks to the efforts of their government everybody is equal now.

    Brh

    • Majella October 17, 2019 at 7:25 pm #

      Re: Typhus in LA…you’re sort of correct, but the wrong way round – the fleas don’t catch typhus from the homeless or the rats…thy just HAVE this particular genus of typhus, endemically.

      “Typhus is not a single disease, but rather a group of diseases caused by different strains of bacteria. Unlike typhoid fever, which is spread by person-to-person contact, typhus gets into the human bloodstream through fleas, ticks, or lice. Murine typhus, a rarely fatal strain spread by fleas, is endemic to Los Angeles—it was here long before us and will be here long after us. Epidemic typhus, which is spread by body lice, is exceedingly rare in the United States. It occurs most often in areas of extreme deprivation, such as South Sudan or 15th century Europe, and has a much higher likelihood of causing death.

      “That’s not what’s going on in Los Angeles,” Brewer says. “The problem is not the presence of the homeless people that’s causing the murine typhus outbreaks. It’s the presence of the rat-infected fleas.””

      https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/typhus-los-angeles-homeless/

  43. capt spaulding October 15, 2019 at 7:58 am #

    “How come the economy roared back to life after he started removing regs, and got the tax cut?”- JAZ.

    I don’t think you phrased that quite right, JAZ. I think you meant: How come the economy went to hell after the Bush administration started removing regs, and got the tax cut? I know that those policies were largely responsible fir what led to the 2008 financial collapse.

    I understand that many people have selective memories when it comes to truths they don’t like, and often times the memories of what actually happened don’t last any longer than the lifespan of a Mayfly, but I think there are some people out there who still remember the fuckups that were in charge, and brought about THE GREAT RECESSION. Hint: it wasn’t the Democrats.

    • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 8:46 am #

      Look out for the same in the UK, capt. BoJo, via the ‘Queen’s speech’ (a quaint parliamentary convention by which the Queen acts as a ventriloquist’s dummy for the government in power, setting out its policies) has informed us that, post Brexit, the UK is going to be a global, outward-looking, low-tax, high-wage economy.*

      Permit me to suggest that the high wages will be (a) limited to a certain bunch of folks, who will also most benefit from the low taxes, and (b) the high wages overall will be harder to spot than the lowered taxes – and regulations. The folks with the high wages, benefiting most from the low taxes, will also be those best able to deal with the effects of the pound plummeting (20% already since the Brexit vote and we haven’t left yet).

      Still, evidence shows that 15% of people in the UK take 80% of the flights, so the same people will still be able to have lots of holidays. That’s a relief. You want you top creative brains to be in tip-top, fully restored condition.

      *’global, outward-looking, low-tax, high-wage economy’ is code for SIngapore-on-Thames, with the kind of race-to-the-bottom regulations that will enable us to grovel more winsomely for a trade deal with the US.

      • benr October 15, 2019 at 10:38 am #

        And grovel you brits should!

        • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 11:18 am #

          Don’t worry, they will. They’re going to be desperate. And your lot will be delighted to dump all that factory *cough* ‘food’ that the Chinese don’t buy. I bet not many of your Hindu community would want to be reincarnated as an American factory farm animal. No Nirvana for you quite yet, little chook. Or rather big fat hormone-enhanced chook on painful little wobbly legs. Trying to move in your 8 square centimetres of space.

          Seriously, imagine grovelling for something that’s way worse than what you already have. Anyway, I’ll be keeping my eyes open and reading those labels properly. I like to see where my food is coming from.

          • benr October 15, 2019 at 11:43 am #

            That was tongue in cheek as you could tell.

            Chinese prepared food is toxic!
            Worse most of the chicken grown in America is now being shipped to China for processing and coming back tainted with arsenic.

            Industrial farming is terrible I agree.
            Poor critters we visited IDAHO last month for a wedding and past so many cows stuck in filthy pens no shade and dirty water eating from a trough and then passed fields of green with a couple of cows peacefully chewing on their cud in the shade.
            The difference was very noticeable.

    • benr October 15, 2019 at 10:26 am #

      Hint most of your narrative is incorrect.
      Causation was many things including some of what you posted.
      The federal government started going after banks for laundering cartel drug money! Which had major impact on liquidity!
      Most banks are still playing this game.

      https://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/10/01/the-complete-list-bank-of-americas-legal-fines-and.aspx

      https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/25/business/dealbook/danske-bank-money-laundering.html

      https://www.marketwatch.com/story/banks-have-been-fined-a-staggering-243-billion-since-the-financial-crisis-2018-02-20

      Banks were FORCED by DEMOCRATS to lend to people with what was known as Sub Prime credit worthiness!
      The Community Reinvestment Act (CRA) and Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac, caused lenders to reduce standards in order to make these loans. That in turn led to an abundance of loans to people who could not afford to repay them. These loans went into default in large numbers, and that HELPED fuel the financial crisis.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Financial_crisis_of_2007%E2%80%932008

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government_policies_and_the_subprime_mortgage_crisis

      Credit default swaps and then stuck investors with all that bad debt.
      Barney Franks lied about stability in Freddie and fannie over and over during this time frame!

      Nice try pinning all this on GWBush yes his hand was on the tiller but the fault is spread across a spectrum of bad decisions.

      • benr October 15, 2019 at 10:33 am #

        As a side note most of the games above are being played again even as we type and read this!

        No one learned the lesson.
        Now add oil supply issues!
        The constant drum beat of impeach impeach impeach !
        Absolute corruption on the Democrat side.
        Terrible choices for the 2020 election as Wall street loathes Lizzy FAUXCOHAUNTUS warren.
        Wars and rumors of soon to be wars in the middle east!
        The constant bs churn for Climate doomers.
        Nice ball of wax to make people feel like the world is coming to an end.

        What I don’t get is why beach property is still so damn expensive if the ocean is coming to flood you away he he ha ha people should be selling beach front property to any fool willing to take the chance for a song and a dance! To the funny farm he he ha ha!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4

        • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 11:07 am #

          benr

          A lot of expensive beach property is bought by rich people. Rich people don’t need to worry if their property is written off in 50 years time because they are rich and they have other properties and other assets to leave their children.

          Meanwhile, if you want actual rates of sea-level rise, here they are:

          https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2680/new-study-finds-sea-level-rise-accelerating/

          If the oceans continue to rise at the present level (unlikely, as the article suggests, since the rate is currently increasing) there will be an extra 26 inches by 2100. That still gives rich people plenty of time to enjoy their boltholes, barring some nasty storm surges in some places.

          On the other hand, you have ordinary people. We have a friend who has a house on the Firth of Forth, on the opposite coast from Edinburgh. She’s not poor but certainly not rich. She has retired and was hoping and planning to go home to Ireland once retired. But she can’t, because her quite nice house has been flooded badly in recent years and consequently has a very (real) low value compared to decades ago when she bought it. In fact she might not be able to sell it at all, unless she can find a buyer as uninformed as yourself.

          (The world isn’t coming to an end, BTW, not for a whole lot of billions of years, when it’s going to be gobbled up by the sun.)

          Back to over your way:

          https://www.insurancejournal.com/news/southeast/2018/01/02/475789.htm

          “The region’s frothy home values, Slap said, have persisted because of what he calls “a dirty little secret” among real estate agents, who are aware of the flood risks but face no requirement to disclose them to buyers.

          “Slap said the increase in his business shows that buyers are starting to become more aware of the problem—and as that happens, housing values will fall. And he said it’s only a matter of time before real estate agents are required by law to reveal those flood risks, noting that the U.S. House of Representatives passed a bill to that effect in 2017. The Senate has yet to take it up.

          “The alternative is a housing market kept afloat by “systemic fraudulent nondisclosure,” Slap said. “Which is pretty much what we have now.”

          Systemic fraudulent nondisclosure? No, surely not. Tell me it ain’t so.

          • benr October 15, 2019 at 11:49 am #

            Don’t confuse a millionaire rich with a Soros buy everything in sight rich.
            The scope of ocean creep is negligible in our lifetimes but over thousands of years it makes a difference.
            The climate hysteria right now is ridiculous and anyone falling for the cult of hysteria is ridiculous.
            Ask Holland about rising sea levels and how long they have been dealing with it.

            https://medium.com/@humanoriginproject/8-mysterious-underwater-ruins-of-lost-civilizations-8f83aee6b117

            Facts of life oceans rise we move.
            Oceans lower we move.

          • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 1:04 pm #

            “The scope of ocean creep is negligible in our lifetimes but over thousands of years it makes a difference.”

            Yep, that’s the way it was before AGW. Now you’re looking at 26 inches by 2100. Like I said.

            “Facts of life oceans rise we move.
            Oceans lower we move.”

            Rather a lot more people to move these days. And both resources and space running out. Oops.

          • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 1:07 pm #

            “Don’t confuse a millionaire rich with a Soros buy everything in sight rich.”

            If I were a millionaire I’d still be able to buy myself a little coastal property for weekends and not be too worried about its resale value. You folks are unhealthily obsessed with Soros.

            We’re going to need a new version of Godwin’s Law for it.

          • Exscotticus October 15, 2019 at 1:37 pm #

            >>> Yep, that’s the way it was before AGW. Now you’re looking at 26 inches by 2100. Like I said.

            That’s not a fact; that’s a prediction based on the best available evidence we have right now (and presumably not biased in any way so as to keep those grants coming).

            Science is littered with faulty predictions.

            Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez claims that “the world is going to end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change.” The people at the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change agree, saying that to avoid some of the most devastating impacts of climate change, the world must slash carbon emissions by 45 percent by 2030 and completely decarbonize by 2050.

            Such dire warnings are not new. In 1970, Harvard University biology professor George Wald, a Nobel laureate, predicted, “Civilization will end within 15 or 30 years unless immediate action is taken against problems facing mankind.” Also in 1970, Paul Ehrlich, a Stanford University biologist, predicted in an article for The Progressive, “The death rate will increase until at least 100-200 million people per year will be starving to death during the next ten years.” The year before, he had warned, “If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000.” Despite such harebrained predictions, Ehrlich has won no fewer than 16 awards, including the 1990 Crafoord Prize, the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences’ highest award.

          • Tate October 15, 2019 at 1:37 pm #

            Lots of shaggy dog anecdotes in that article. When they raise the roads (& other structures) the water has to go somewhere. So more flooding ensues in other areas that haven’t been so protected. It’s a development spiral that eventually will end, but not just yet. People in the Mississippi river valley & other flood-prone areas have been facing this reality for decades. It’s nothing new. It doesn’t mean that there is sea-level rise, only that there is more real estate development in the affected areas.

          • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 2:44 pm #

            Tate is right. I have seen it first hand here in Louisiana. Our biggest problem is sprawling development and the paving over of green spaces that naturally accept the water flow from other areas during storms. The other issue facing the Mississippi Delta and the coasts of Louisiana is the diversion of normal water flows from the rivers by levees. This prevents the natural deposit of silts and sediments that build up the coastal marshes. The disappearing coastal marshes is allowing the Gulf of Mexico waters to eat away at our coasts. Much of our problems are directly tied to our development and alteration of the landscape.

          • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 3:20 pm #

            “That’s not a fact; that’s a prediction based on the best available evidence we have right now”

            I don’t have a problem with ‘you’re looking at 26 inches’ as an approximation. I don’t consider ‘you’re looking at’ as precise scientific language. It’s clear that it’s a prediction – but only if the rate of increase doesn’t accelerate even further, in which case you maybe looking at more.

            I’m not interested in what AOC says. Nor have I ever quoted her or defended her. She’s a politician, not a climate scientist.

            I’d happily have a wager with you regarding the likely sea-level rise by 2100, Exscotticus (in a similarly ‘you’re looking at’ kinda way), but neither of us will be here.

            If you keep insisting that scientists are falsifying evidence to obtain grants, sooner or later you’re going to have to come up with a whole lot of evidence of that to cover the fine detail of the conclusions of a whole lot of scientists.

            That’s what Nightowl keeps saying – if you’re making the claim, it’s up to you to defend it with evidence.

          • Exscotticus October 15, 2019 at 4:26 pm #

            GreenAlba, I’m not the one making extraordinary claims like, “you’re looking at 26 inches by 2100”. It is up to scientists to offer extraordinary evidence to support extraordinary conclusions. And given how much is unknown, I’d say that they’re not there yet.

            For example, when was the last time scientists accurately predicted sea level rise 80 years in advance? That would be never.

            Please see my other post. If the climate crazies like AOC keep speaking for you (and they do, whether you like it or accept it or not), then we’re not going to implement any good policy.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2019 at 4:42 pm #

            Good point about the rich having options, but Gore and others have sounded dire warnings about Disaster striking in ten, twelve, or twenty years – more than twenty years ago. Why would anyone listen one such a one then buys an ocean front house?

            I know the People can’t be given All of the Truth, but certainly they shouldn’t be so blatantly lied to.

            I don’t know if Obama ever talked so glibly. He certainly didn’t fight such talk though.

          • benr October 15, 2019 at 5:08 pm #

            @ga

            The point is this is nothing but a big con until they move back to we are all going to freeze to death like in the 70’s.

            East Anglia e-mails proved they are massaging reality by changing what is fact and the methodology on climate data and how as well as where data is taken.

          • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 8:08 pm #

            Exscotticus

            “GreenAlba, I’m not the one making extraordinary claims like, “you’re looking at 26 inches by 2100”. It is up to scientists to offer extraordinary evidence to support extraordinary conclusions. And given how much is unknown, I’d say that they’re not there yet.”

            How much genuine climate science have you actually read on reputable scientific websites with specific regard to the issue of rising sea level? And where is it you think the melting polar ice is going? Remembering, of course, that the poles are warming faster than the rest of the planet, and that warming water expands. You’re the one suggesting the claim is extraordinary – I’m not. And you have accused scientists of falsifying evidence in order to obtain grants. I’m still waiting for evidence of that. For the majority of climate scientists.

            I don’t care who AOC thinks she speaks for – only I speak for me.

          • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 8:10 pm #

            “Why would anyone listen one such a one then buys an ocean front house?”

            Have you been at the sauce, Janos?

          • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 8:17 pm #

            benr

            “East Anglia e-mails proved they are massaging reality by changing what is fact and the methodology on climate data and how as well as where data is taken.”

            Sorry to disappoint you but the East Anglia team were exonerated of any professional wrongdoing.

            https://skepticalscience.com/print.php?n=4320

            https://skepticalscience.com/Climategate-CRU-emails-hacked-advanced.htm

            Sorry, benr. You listen to gossip in all the wrong places.

            “The point is this is nothing but a big con until they move back to we are all going to freeze to death like in the 70’s.”

            That’s just too silly even for you.

          • Exscotticus October 15, 2019 at 10:40 pm #

            GreenAlba, you didn’t answer my question. What’s the track record for scientists accurately predicting sea levels 80 years in advance?

            What affect do sun spots have on climate? NASA predicts next solar cycle will be lowest in 200 years. What about magnetic pole shift? Earth’s magnetic field is acting up and geologists don’t know why.

            You’re talking about melting ice. Meanwhile, many scientists are predicting global cooling—including NASA.

            Sorry but we just don’t have all the answers, as much as you want to believe that we do.

          • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 5:43 am #

            Exscotticus

            https://www.space.com/42656-strong-solar-activity-predicted-climate-change.html

            And I’ll leave you to read NASA’s position yourself.

            https://climate.nasa.gov/news/?page=0&per_page=40&order=publish_date+desc%2C+created_at+desc&search=&category=19%2C98

            There’s plenty there to keep you entertained for a while. I scrolled down quite far, but I haven’t found one yet about imminent global cooling.

          • Exscotticus October 16, 2019 at 11:12 am #

            GreenAlba, there are only so many ways you can avoid a direct question to which we both know the answer.

            Scientists have NEVER accurately predicted sea levels 80 years in advance.

            Yet you want to bet the farm—the entire world economy—on them being right? You want to call for radical changes because the MSM spooked you into a tizzy?

            The sky is not falling. But we are running out of space.

          • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 8:01 pm #

            Exscotticus

            I am not in a tizzy. I won’t be here when the worst of this pans out, but I don’t enjoy anticipating the results of climate disruption for those I leave behind (and I’m not just referring to those who are related to me).

            Your question is deliberately manipulative and completely ridiculous. I wasn’t around in 1940 so I wasn’t there to follow any hypothetical predictions from that time. Not that it would matter, since scientists know far more now than they knew 80 years ago about climatology generally. But they predict ranges in any case, not absolutes. You quote two people as if that meant something – quote 1000 scientists and we’d have something to talk about.

            And I don’t know what policies you are accusing me of promoting. Not that that would matter either since I’m just writing on a blog, not interfering with your libertarian preferences. I don’t support your ideology, even without climate change in the picture.

          • Exscotticus October 17, 2019 at 12:10 am #

            GreenAlba, do you think all this hysteria is just to fill the daily drama quotient? It’s to promote POLICY. So it may behoove you to know exactly what sort of policy is being promulgated.

            Dems in the USA typically have only two solutions for any given problem: ban it or tax it. They want to ban fossil fuels but they can’t—yet. So the current plan calls for a “climate change” tax. And what will that money be used for? They don’t exactly say, but it will almost certainly involve wealth redistribution to Dem-favored classes to “offset” climate change.

            Offset. We hear that word a lot amongst the climate change illuminati. Oh I flew my jet all over and contributed more greenhouse gases to the environment than most people do in a lifetime? Really? No matter! I’ll just “offset” it. Translation: I’ll invest in “green” corporations, enjoy an immediate benefit in the form of good publicity, and hopefully a larger payoff when I divest myself of the investment at some future time. Bonus: I can keep flying my jet…

          • GreenAlba October 17, 2019 at 8:36 am #

            Exscotticus

            I’m not a Dem so my opinion is irrelevant to your party politics. Some things do need to be banned (landmines, Agent Orange, Round-up, CFCs, McDonald’s – oops, sorry getting carried away).

            And some things are good to tax. If the UK had taxed petrol and diesel at US levels we’d have US levels of urban sprawl (where geography permits). So I don’t care as much as you would that when I occasionally hire a car it costs almost 8 dollars a gallon to drive it. No man is an island…

            NOT taxing aviation fuel since WWII has turned out to be a seriously bad thing to do. Why should people not pay the external costs of their activities? Where’s your vaunted personal responsibility when it comes to the tragedy of the commons?

            BTW, here’s what the UK has achieved so far:

            https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-why-the-uks-co2-emissions-have-fallen-38-since-1990

            It’s only a staging post,obviously, but you’ve got so much more low-hanging fruit than we have that it makes your efforts even more derisory.

            And yes, I know, it will make a small difference compared to China. Just as if I decline to knock over and mug an old lady it would hardly make a dent in the number of knocked over and mugged old ladies worldwide, but I’ve decided not to do it anyway.

          • Exscotticus October 17, 2019 at 10:15 am #

            >>> Why should people not pay the external costs of their activities?

            And not just people. Corporations should also pay. Government should also pay. But I’m afraid you missed my point.

            A person who likes to drive his sports car and speed all the time doesn’t “offset” his speeding by paying off speeding tickets.

            Similarly, no amount of offsets nullifies the damage that CO2, NO2, SO2, etc., does to real people in real communities. I’m talking respiratory illness, acid rain, and all the rest. Not to mention all the other creatures in their natural habitats.

            Allowing the wealthy, the famous, and the powerful to continue adding orders of magnitude more pollutants than average people by simply paying an offset is psychopathic. It’s like belonging to a special club where the rules don’t apply. And of course the club has dues, but the benefits far outweigh the membership fees.

            In the real world, after you get enough speeding tickets, you lose your license. You may even go to jail. And climate change is so much worse than speeding, yes? I mean we’re talking “26 inches by 2100”, yes?

          • Exscotticus October 17, 2019 at 10:46 am #

            So here you are penning odes to taxation. Are environmental taxes going to create industrial air scrubbers that run on green energy that suck the CO2, NO2, and SO2 out of the air? Of course not. At best, these taxes will simply discourage people from polluting. But not any people—only those for whom the tax is significant. The wealthy, the famous, and the powerful won’t be impacted in any way.

            The idea that the “revenue” from any “climate change” tax will be used to address climate change is naive. There’s no addressing climate change with 7.7 billion people—most of whom lie outside our jurisdiction. We can neither tax them nor tell them what to do.

            Tell us, GreenAlba, in what way is the penniless migrant mom with ten kids paying the “external costs” of her activities? How much carbon will each of those kids contribute to the environment in their lifetimes?

          • GreenAlba October 17, 2019 at 11:32 am #

            The unnecessary bold bit is just whataboutery, Exscotticus, unless you’ve heard me loudly encouraging people to have 10 kids. Instead of which you’ve heard me loudly encouraging the enlightened policy of helping spread birth control far and wide, even to the extent of only offering foreign aid to governments implementing birth control policies and health/reproductive education. I think I said it again just on the previous thread.

            My comment on taxes was a general one, not with specific reference to climate change. You are a general libertarian, I believe, not just a climate change libertarian. I am open-minded on carbon taxes. I mentioned already that 15% of people in the UK take 80% of the flights, so it has been suggested that a frequent-flyers’ duty might be a better idea than penalising families who only fly on holiday once a year (personally, given about 15 minutes, I could probably list every flight I’ve taken in my life, to within 95% accuracy, so few have there been compared to The Entitled everywhere).

            I don’t absolve rich people of anything in terms of their consumption. And I believe all climate conferences should be tele-conferences, in principle. If my work could do it, under their own environmental policy (and to save money) so can they.

            Regarding offsetting, when I have had to fly I’ve done the offsetting calculation, multiplied it by about five or ten and donated that amount, ticking the ‘tree planting’ option. I still think that’s better than nothing, but my staying off planes is the better option overall.

          • Exscotticus October 17, 2019 at 4:55 pm #

            >>> The unnecessary bold bit is just whataboutery, Exscotticus, unless you’ve heard me loudly encouraging people to have 10 kids.

            No I have seen you argue the opposite. But I also just saw you endorse the idea of taxation to pay for the “external costs” of one’s actions. And I’m legitimately asking you how breeders will pay for their costs? How will “developing nations” pay for their costs?

            Are you truly prepared to add more tax burdens and regulation on your businesses and economy while Brexit is going down? Particularly while the majority of the world will be watching your climate change sacrifices and cranking out units like there’s no tomorrow?

          • GreenAlba October 18, 2019 at 8:49 am #

            “Are you truly prepared to add more tax burdens and regulation on your businesses and economy while Brexit is going down?”

            You don’t need to worry about that, Exscotticus. Brexit is a neoliberal project which puts deregulation and corporate profits before the wellbeing of people or their environment.

            You shouldn’t confuse me with anyone who has power. I just have opinions and a pair of eyes.

      • Linda October 17, 2019 at 7:17 am #

        The repeal of Glass-Steagall was a huge component to the banking mess of 2008. NAFTA, WTO have all contributed to manufacturing jobs moving overseas. Who was in charge at the time? Bill Clinton, a Democrat.

    • JohnAZ October 15, 2019 at 4:52 pm #

      Trump first, Bush second.

      Trump’s turn improved the economy, Bush’s was part of the 2008 debacle. But only part.

      I agree with you on one thing, no one in the Deep State is serious about the deficit. Both sides want to spend and spend, just on different things. A good compromise would be cuts in spending and moderate tax increases. Have you heard the Dem platform? No spending relief there.

      Glass Steagall being removed started the fiasco followed by the banks investing in crap real estate equities finished the job. Not totally Bush, but partly a Democratic push in Congress for everyone to be able to get a house, so no qualification requirements for mortgages.

      Have you seen the Big Short? The story of three investment groups that predicted the 2008 drop to the day. Think CDOs, the banking fiasco that caused the recession.

      And you are wrong, it was partly the Democrats.

      • Nightowl October 16, 2019 at 4:33 am #

        The most amusing part is how Trump has done it. Via common sense. Reinvigorating industry and leveraging trade.

        Its almost like there were people committed to the destruction of the concept of the nation state who were systematically tearing the countr….

        Nah.

    • Majella October 17, 2019 at 4:09 am #

      Capt – you’re quite right.

      2009-2011 was a struggle for the vast majority of ordinary folks – though to varying degrees, of course. And recovery after a serious recession is a stuttering process, and eventually -one hopes – some measure of growth takes hold. That’s was 2012-13.

      Then it got some legs, and the current ‘booming’ economy so sainted by the RWNJs is a new peak, with another trough to follow. Trump can take all the credit he likes (and he does, shamelessly) but he’ll most assuredly disavow the recession, blaming it on everyone & anyone – Bill Maher for one, for sure.

      But the current ‘boom’ is bypassing so many in the economy, with real wages still stagnant and many having to find 2 or 3 McJobs ( on zero hour contracts) to even hope to make ends meet.

      The growing homelessness so deplored b by bent et al is just one result of the screwed up financial system that is STILL so unfairly skewed to serve the ordinary citizen. Not illegal Immigration – those people find work, and don’t inhabit the streets.

      • Majella October 17, 2019 at 4:12 am #

        ‘Unfairly skewed AGAINST serving the ordinary citizen.’

  44. SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 10:06 am #

    So it’s racist to call someone a traitor for changing the name of Columbus Day? Ok. That’s cool. Please do feel free to believe what you want because after all this is a sort of free country (lol) despite you. But I would like to talk about racism and Columbus Day. Specifically, let’s consider what Columbus Day is in much of Latin America. It is known as Dia de la Raza or Day of the Race. In this instance it is considered very positive because Columbus’ arrival in the Western Hemisphere signals the birth of the Race. The Mestizo Race, which is considered by the Hispanic world in many instances as a blessed and special Race with a sort of Manifest Destiny of its own. That destiny includes the Reconquista of much of the southwest US. Ever heard of the racist Hispanic organization La Raza? An actual and real Brown Power movement. The same movement that would like to forcibly remove Anglos from various areas of the country and that openly supports the illegal trespassing of the US border by Latin migrants. I suppose there is no racism in any of that. Just virtuous Brown people celebrating their infinitely superior Culture and Race huh. And of course any instance of American Whites celebrating or at the least recognizing Columbus Day can only be a manifestation of White Racism of course.

    • Exscotticus October 15, 2019 at 4:30 pm #

      I just laugh at it all.

      What is Indigenous Peoples’ Day? It’s the day Columbus discovered America for the Europeans, and started the process of subjugating all the indigenous people who lived there.

      They’re celebrating the beginning of their end. LOL.

      • SoftStarLight October 16, 2019 at 1:25 am #

        What if in 50 years what used to be American White people are doing the same thing? It may not necessarily be a day of reverence but more like a gathering at the border. Like a new type of Burning Man. The browned “Whites” will twist and weave to the percussion of crude handpans as they celebrate the arrival of the real Humans at that most unholy ground that used to be the border. Thus the land requires sanctification and tribute. And of course the story will go that real Humans have more melanin than less and don’t have weird, alien recessive traits. Thus the wonder of how White Animals were made Human with Brown Blood.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2019 at 11:50 am #

          Great comeback to a “realist” who always wants to get back to the important stuff: repealing laws so individuals can go back to making as much money as possible. Needless to say he doesn’t realize that’s what got us here to begin with. Nor I imagine, does he notice the radical individualism that the Left has used against us with such skill: every person has the right the right to go anywhere in search of opportunity. Fuck that.

  45. Nightowl October 15, 2019 at 11:15 am #

    Wanted to take a sec to post something positive and architecture related (since this was one of the paths that led me to JHK).

    We were in Wüppertal (here in Germany) this weekend, a small city in North Rhein-Westphalia, famous for its hanging metro/train system.

    We went to the zoo, which was beautiful itself, but there was a neighborhood of villas and multi-family residential buildings put up in the late 19th century that had some of the most stunning architecture and municipal planning I have experienced. Big oaks and sycamores everywhere, roundabouts with play areas for kids enclosed in wrought iron fences, and stunning houses.

    I have travelled most of Europe and live in Germany, but this was one of the most inspiring neighborhoods I have visited in some time.

    Worth a look if anyone is ever travelling in the vicinity. The “Zooviertel”

    • Nightowl October 15, 2019 at 11:15 am #

      Sorry, that’s Wuppertal.

    • SoftStarLight October 15, 2019 at 12:21 pm #

      It sounds beautiful and quaint! So sad it is being given to the Muslims essentially for free!

  46. K-Dog October 15, 2019 at 11:31 am #

    Hello GreenAlba, BackRowHeckler and everyone else who knows who I am.

    https://mahb.stanford.edu/blog/fly-away/#disqus_thread

    Pucker will reply with something insulting. That is OK I’ll take it as a compliment.

    • GreenAlba October 15, 2019 at 12:57 pm #

      Thanks K-Dog – lovely article and lovely butterly. And I’ve bookmarked mahb as well, thanks.

      The EU are in hock to Monsanto lobbyists as well, although there have been some individual national bans of Round-up and/or some phase-outs in the pipeline.

      https://www.baumhedlundlaw.com/toxic-tort-law/monsanto-roundup-lawsuit/where-is-glyphosate-banned/

      Not looking for much from the UK, with the current lot in power, deregulation being the order of the Brexit new dawn.

      Two opposing neoliberal projects and people don’t see it.

      There’s a bumble bee that comes to our back door every year at the same time (we’re quite urban) – obviously not the same one but we think it must be that hive memory thing. My husband reckons there may have been a colony before the flats were built, around 1890. I don’t know, but it always looks as if it’s trying to get in.

      My back door (the brown one behind the lopsided but immovable Victorian clothes pole):

      https://media.rightmove.co.uk/dir/53k/52497/67524202/52497_113910_IMG_16_0000_max_656x437.jpg

      If you look carefully you can just see the bee looking wistful.

      Only kidding.

      • sprawlcapital October 16, 2019 at 11:59 am #

        GA–

        Your block of flats may not be Buckingham Palace, but it has its own beauty. Here in America such structures are routinely pulled down, all too often to make way for a parking lot (car park).

        I recall on my visit to Britain in May 1985, on the bus ride from Heathrowe to central London, after we got off the freeway (motorway) we drove through mile after mile of roads lined with charming old brick buildings. The only ugly thing I saw was a McDonald’s restaurant–the plastic golden arches attached to the front of an otherwise fine old building.

        • GreenAlba October 17, 2019 at 9:38 am #

          Thank you sprawl capital. They’re rather more elegant from the front because of the bay-windowed living rooms. The back isn’t impressive!

          I know most posters here would be horrified to have to live in such a place but in Edinburgh they’re very sought after – about half of Edinburgh households live in sandstone flats and many of those wouldn’t thank you for a new house. People love the high ceilings, beautiful cornicing, original wood, old fireplaces etc., and they lovingly maintain or restore them. They’re not the cheapest abodes to keep warm, but payback comes in July/August when they’re a refuge during any random heatwaves!

          I can’t believe people still pull these buildings down. There was a fashion for that here in the 60s and some city centres that the Luftwaffe hadn’t managed to flatten were razed by town planners and developers devoid of insight or taste. But things have generally gone the other way since, and old buildings are valued, even if they’re not cheap to maintain.

        • Majella October 17, 2019 at 5:48 pm #

          Hey, GA. I would love to see an image of your street & the house fronts. I notice they’re 4 stories – at the back, at least. I imagine the ground floor is a basement on the street level?

    • BackRowHeckler October 15, 2019 at 2:01 pm #

      Very descriptive and heartfelt nature writing Kieth. You never mentioned you grew up in Minn.; I thought you were a Seattle native. You are making a name for yourself.

      That essay deserves placement in your own blog, which is coming along nicely, incidentally. Music was a nice addition. At first I thought your site was a little too complex for its own good but it seems you are smoothing things out. It seems like much work and thought go into it.

      Brh

      • Tate October 15, 2019 at 2:35 pm #

        You can get away with calling him “Kieth” it seems. He threatened to dox me if I kept on doing it. Malthuss would be appalled.

        • BackRowHeckler October 15, 2019 at 3:16 pm #

          He links to his website and pod cast, where he uses his real name. Kdog doesn’t hide his identity.

        • K-Dog October 15, 2019 at 3:34 pm #

          A pox on dox but I am not going to argue about how my name is spelled and doxing some around here would have serious consequences, so no thanks, as if I could. Regarding K-Dog the dash is part of K-Dog and please respect the capital letters.

          • BackRowHeckler October 15, 2019 at 10:03 pm #

            K-Dog it is. No disrespect intended, my friend.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2019 at 4:29 pm #

          He spells it Kieth and not Keith? That’s like wearing your tshirt inside out to show the label. Remember that cool?

        • malthuss October 15, 2019 at 9:32 pm #

          Why? k I eth?

          I was appalled my comment to BRH was removed, yesterday.

          • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 10:14 am #

            I think the fact that it beat all previous records for the most completely irrelevant comment at the relatively topmost position in the thread might have had something to do with it, malthuss. I was tempted to add ‘look, a squirrel’ after it, but it’s just as well I didn’t, as my orphaned comment might have led to confusion for days if it hadn’t gone along with yours.

    • PeteAtomic October 15, 2019 at 9:24 pm #

      hey good article bud

    • malthuss October 15, 2019 at 9:42 pm #

      Soon Monarch Butterflies will go extinct.
      The milkweed plant has been a weed in cornfields for decades but corn is now Roundup Ready and milkweed is being eradicated by Roundup in corn fields across the American Midwest.
      This loss of milkweed is genocide to Monarch butterflies. Monsanto is the manufacturer of Roundup.

      / what about suburbs and xburbs causing marshes and milkweed
      to disappear?
      its all MS fault?

      • stelmosfire October 15, 2019 at 10:15 pm #

        I was in Providence RI yesterday for the Columbus Day Italian festival on Federal Hill. Thousands of people. I was at a seat drinking a pumpkin’ beer and a flock? perhaps twenty Monarch butterflys dropped into the crowd. Probably on their migration down to Mexico. Some of them actually landed on people. They may have been attracted by the colors or scents. I don’t have a clue why they were there but it was sight to behold. People were memorized especially the children. I hope they make to Mexico.

        • stelmosfire October 15, 2019 at 10:19 pm #

          Around here, western MA, many people are planting milkweed for the Monarchs. I used to raise them striped critters and was wondered as a child by there clear chrysalis and watching them hatch and unfurl their new wings to the world.

          • malthuss October 16, 2019 at 10:50 am #

            thank G-d.

      • BackRowHeckler October 15, 2019 at 10:17 pm #

        I do notice there aren’t as many birds around here as there used to be. Robins and bluebirds used to be commonplace, not so much anymore.

        Same goes for squirrels and rabbits. I’m not seeing many. Oddly enough, larger animals are moving in, fox, coyotes, Bobcats, deer and bears. Black bears are all over the place. You hear something going on in your driveway, you take a look, there’s a big black bear eating out of your garbage can. He gives you a nonchalant look, then goes back eating. He doesn’t care.

        Brh

        • stelmosfire October 15, 2019 at 10:24 pm #

          Marlin, Up in these parts I have a cottontail explosion. The things are outta’ control. They ate the whole garden in May. Never had them before. Never had chipmunks in my spot before. Now they eat everything. Nature is in flux. I don’t have a clue but every year is different. Perhaps we should start a movement.

          • stelmosfire October 15, 2019 at 10:26 pm #

            A couple weeks ago a big black bear ( maybe 300 lbs) up a tree in a populated area by my wifes work. A moose through town. Go figure. I think they were protesting.

          • stelmosfire October 15, 2019 at 10:28 pm #

            Squirrels? Millions of ’em. Get outta town. Tree rats! good eatin’ though. Don’t waste a shotgun shell. Use a rimfire.

          • BackRowHeckler October 15, 2019 at 10:38 pm #

            Ok Rip small game is being chased north out of Ct into the Pioneer Valley. You’ve got more open space up your way anyhow.

            Brh

          • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2019 at 1:34 am #

            Tell them about the time you wrestled a Black Bear and pinned him, only to find out if was just a Black. That doesn’t take away from the valor of your deed since intention is most if not everything. You thought it was a Bear. Of course if it was, you probably wouldn’t have been able to pin it. That takes away a bit I guess.

          • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 5:47 am #

            StE

            “Tree rats! good eatin’ though.”

            Never had one but my husband tells me a butcher we use for game makes a squabbit pie. Is that a thing over your way?

          • stelmosfire October 16, 2019 at 8:00 am #

            GA, I never had squabbit pie. I assume it would be a squirrel/rabbit combo. Sounds good. Squirrel can be a little tough so a slow cooked crockpot stew is the way to go.

          • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 10:21 am #

            Yes, it’s squirrel/rabbit, StE. To say it’s still extremely niche over here would be an understatement. Most people wouldn’t even eat rabbit.

            Rabbit is also best done slowly. My husband pot roasts it on top of battuto. Falls of the bone… delicious. Slow food is best.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2019 at 11:54 am #

            I am Tybalt, Prince of Cats. C’mere Mousy, Mousy, Mousy

          • stelmosfire October 16, 2019 at 3:09 pm #

            I asked my asian friend what cat tastes like. He says ” cat tastes like mouse.”

          • elysianfield October 16, 2019 at 7:48 pm #

            “” cat tastes like mouse.””

            Saint,
            Finish your sentence? “Cat tastes like mouse, Grasshopper….”

  47. old97polarcat October 15, 2019 at 11:44 am #

    “Whistleblower” is Danilyuk, Zelensky’s advisor during his presidential campaign, and Soros’ top operative in Ukie-land.

  48. wm5135 October 15, 2019 at 12:54 pm #

    Wait For It

    The copy of an ad is merely a punning gag to distract the critical faculties while the image of the product goes to work on the hypnotized viewer. Those who have spent their lives protesting about ‘false and misleading ad copy’ are godsends to advertisers, as teetotalers are to brewers, and moral censors are to books and films. The protesters are the best acclaimers and accelerators. Since the advent of pictures, the job of the ad copy is as incidental and latent as the ‘meaning’ of a poem is to a poem, or the words of a song are to a song.
    Marshall McLuhan

    Comey image = you to can be successful

    • ellipsis October 15, 2019 at 3:10 pm #

      Nice!

      Comey is Ward Cleaver updated for the 21st century, wise and all knowing, yet completely down to earth and folksy. He’s the epitome of cool. You’d aspire to live next door to him and be counted as part of his circle of friends, but you seriously doubt that you have the substance to pull it off, afraid/knowing that he’d see right through you. Worse still, you suspect he’d spare your feelings and not even tell you that you didn’t cut the mustard, leaving you to find out awkwardly later in some embarrassing chance encounter. Comey’s a varsity letterman, while you never even dared to go out for intramurals. Comey “made it” on the day he was born. You have yet to figure out what “it” is.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2019 at 4:34 pm #

        Well said. Ward Cleaver could kill a man with his bare hands – as he had to do once or twice with “Nazis” during the war. Think he wanted Wally dating a Black girl? Or Beaver to join the Vishnus like poor Larry Mondello? It’s not easy getting into those kind of suburbs, not then and it’s much harder now.

        Imagine a Trump moving in and hoisting up a super size American Flag. How gauche. That’s what Trump did in Florida and his neighbors objected strongly. Ward didn’t kill Nazis for just any America, but rather his own. That of his class – just like Traitor Johnny McCain.

        • malthuss October 15, 2019 at 9:33 pm #

          visnus? Larry?

        • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2019 at 10:57 pm #

          You’re obviously not an afficionado of the show so why are you busting my balls? Are you Comey or Comedy?

          • malthuss October 16, 2019 at 10:52 am #

            you watch TV???

      • “He’s the epitome of cool.”

        Actually no. If you knocked and he answered the door at his Mid-Century colonial, he would give you a flat, affect-less stare as he towered over you at 6 foot eight inches tall.

        He’d move uncomfortably close to you, sniffing at the air and without warning he’d grab your balls and squeeze- a special maneuver they teach agents at Quanitco.

        At that point, you start singing like a fucking canary, every bad thing you ever did as you begin crying uncontrollably.

        Comey’s confession technique was considered legendary the bureau.

        So you can see why Trump was uncomfortable.

        (big balls)

        • ellipsis October 15, 2019 at 5:09 pm #

          Got a little FBI groupie thing going on there, or what? Are we going to be regaled with tales of midnight encounters tied to bedposts with or without ball gags and/or various other pain inducing restraint devices? I can see where the ball squeezing thing might segue directly to that, especially in older gents.

          • capt spaulding October 15, 2019 at 7:26 pm #

            Somebody has been peeking through my windows.

          • Nightowl October 16, 2019 at 10:34 am #

            Called into the Trump’s Oval Office,
            Comey hid behind the drapes.

        • benr October 15, 2019 at 5:25 pm #

          The counter to someone grabbing your balls is a solid punch to the throat.
          Don’t care how bad ass you are that ends most conflicts.

          • elysianfield October 16, 2019 at 7:52 pm #

            “The counter to someone grabbing your balls is a solid punch to the throat.”

            Benr,
            …Not so sure. Being grabbed by the balls seems to focus the mind otherwise.

  49. Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2019 at 4:39 pm #

    Everything exists forever, at least until the End of Time and Space, in the Akashic Records or Scrolls. Thus one hack emailing another nube about how they should rectify the Medieval Warming Period with Global Warming Theory will also exist forever.

    It is said that God will hide the Sins of His Saints from profane eyes at the Last Judgment. I don’t know if that means altering the Scrolls or not. In any case, the Scrolls will go when the Universe goes. Then the Info will only remain in the Mind of God. And if He’s cool with you, then it’s basically scrubbed.

    • Basically you end up where athiests already are. You’re just another part of the universe, and no one is counting your sins or will hold you to account… unless James Comey is on the case.

      • hmuller October 16, 2019 at 4:02 pm #

        Yeah, Comey did such a thorough job of investigating Hillary. NOT!! I hate the deep state bastard and would consider it a privilege to put the noose around his pencil neck and drop the scaffold trap door. No more Comey the Clown.

  50. Comey was widely considered a cool dude… up to the moment he announced his investigation into Hillary’s servers. Then he became the political football. Trump kicked him out, and what kind of message did that send to the intelligence community? Suspicious.

    Trump is a skilled player, buying time. Stephen Miller’s got six ways from Sunday to slip-slide out from under this. And he could come back and keep winning. But nobody should be surprised he isn’t the most investigated president since Nixon. German banks cover for him. Who knows what he’s got on them?

    • CancelMyCard October 15, 2019 at 6:48 pm #

      Snacks,

      You are on a roll here tonight.

      You’ve got Janos eating out of your hand.

      And that’s saying something.

      Give him a little jerk on his tongue
      while you jerk his tiny, tiny balls,
      And he’ll be your lackey ’til the end of time.

      He wants it.
      Go for it.

    • Nightowl October 16, 2019 at 4:44 am #

      Maybe he has pee-pee tapes of their executives?

      Snacklet discovered Trump is intelligent. Next thing you know, he will cancel his subscription to the Paper of Refuse.

      Look out world.

  51. Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2019 at 5:23 pm #

    https://www.amren.com/commentary/2019/10/elites-denounce-demographic-re-engineering-in-syria/

    The Left understands the importance of Race and the dangers of mass immigration when it comes to other races, just not Whites. Why not? Basically, Whites aren’t human in their book. Or to be more precise: Only Whites who favor Non-Whites are human. Thus any White who is worried about his or her own People is Scum in their book. Not human and not be listened to or associated with.

    • Majella October 15, 2019 at 6:02 pm #

      Your fevered imaginings are getting crazier. What utter bollocks.

      • CancelMyCard October 15, 2019 at 6:59 pm #

        Janos is ever so slowly, but ever so methodically, and in a very Germanic way

        going completely batshit crazy,

        His idol Adolph is fading rapidly in the minds of the new generations,

        and that is frustrating for him beyond belief.

        So sad.
        So bad.

        • malthuss October 15, 2019 at 9:34 pm #

          The White race is being genocided.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2019 at 10:02 pm #

          Cancel you card? Or cancel your humanity? We don’t have to – you’ve already done that.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2019 at 10:01 pm #

        It hits a little too close to home, eh Ms Wannabe?

        • Majella October 16, 2019 at 3:05 am #

          Yeah, Janos…you’re acuity is AWESOME! Pity you have no fucking actual idea. THST particular post was very sadly way less comprehensible than your usual drivel, hence the call-out.

          You display an entirely egocentric personality disorder, called, in the vernacular from my home town, ‘wankerism’. I guess that makes you a ‘wanker’.

          I’m not sure if the general American public understands what ‘wanker’ means. Here, the Urban Dictionary gives a range of usages, but No 5. Is where it originated from:

          https://www.google.co.nz/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3fterm=wanker&amp=true

          • capt spaulding October 16, 2019 at 7:42 pm #

            Is the opposite of ‘wokester’ ?

          • Majella October 16, 2019 at 8:24 pm #

            no, Capt – pretty much the same thing!

          • Majella October 17, 2019 at 4:17 am #

            —-ss in both are wankers but at opposite extremes of the spectrum.

  52. sprezzatura October 15, 2019 at 6:22 pm #

    Jim is grasping at marginal straws and hair-splitting in a pathological attempt at remaining contrarian Sigh… Jim used to be interesting.

    • CancelMyCard October 15, 2019 at 6:54 pm #

      Well, he resisted falling down the Trump wormhole for a long, long time,

      Give him credit for that, but in the end,

      He succumbed to the Trump Cult Bullshit.

      Kudos to you Jim, for resisting for sooooo long,
      but in the end . . . . .

  53. Pucker October 15, 2019 at 7:21 pm #

    On Chasten Buttigieg’s Twitter account, Chaz has posted a photo of himself partying at a gay political event with a gay bloke basically mounting Chaz from behind. I

    It looks like Mayor Pete may have an insubordination discipline problem within his gay Army? It’s probably not easy to impose iron discipline among the queer foot soldiers? When Ferdinand Magellan encountered homosexual behavior amongst the crew early in his voyage when one of the Spanish crew sodomized a cabin boy, Magellan ordered the Spanish rapist strangled in front of the crew, which put a stop to the sodomy, at least temporarily. I’m not sure what General Patton did to stop sodomy among Third Army troops in North Africa and Sicily, or during the “Battle of the Bulge”? Most of my life has been a “Battle of the Bulge”. In this photo, Chasten is being an unfaithful “Husband” to Pete with a gay bloke who is hitting on Chasten at a party. It looks like these gay political events typically start off with a veneer of seriousness and then quickly devolve into partying with loud music, dancing, and intoxicants…Bacchanalian Roman orgies…. All these white effete blokes are probably going to come out and accuse Chaz of going to town with them while partying with Chaz 10 while Pete is out on the campaign trail? Chaz 10 does not seem to be “a solid, stable, dependable mutha fucker”, unlike Whitey Bulger. And the blacks are going to start shouting at Pete for police brutality in the South Bend police force. Didn’t Pete stack South Bend’s first black police chief and then hire in his place a hard-ass white drill sergeant police chief who didn’t take any shit off of anybody?

    • Pucker October 15, 2019 at 7:25 pm #

      Wasn’t one of the Village People dressed in a black leather policeman’s uniform, like a Naa…zi? Why doesn’t Pete Buttigieg hire one of those gay sadomasochist policemen to keep the South Bend blacks in line?

      • capt spaulding October 15, 2019 at 7:29 pm #

        Just make sure they are issued fur lined handcuffs.

    • Tate October 15, 2019 at 8:51 pm #

      Gay marriage is a farce. What they call ‘marriage’ the normal hetero-normative individual would call a ‘hook-up.’

      • Majella October 16, 2019 at 2:33 am #

        Tate – if, from time to time, you said something that was TRUE, I’d probably have some respect for you, despite your deplorable take on things.

        Marriage is a public commitment, regardless of gender. The Adam & Eve v. Adam & Steve trope was buried a decade ago.

        To characterize all homosexual relationships as ‘hook-ups’ just shows you don’t know any gay people…or the gays you know incidentally are smart enough not to come out to you!

        I know couples who are more committed and been together longer than plenty of my hetero friends.

        It reads like your complete view on gay relationships is based on the movie ‘Cruising’ from 1980. That portrayed a homophobic (which usually means closeted homosexual) serial killer, taking out his unresolved frustrations on the gay community. Hat ?

        Yes, just like other humans -all of which are sexual beings – there’s as much promiscuity among gay men & women as amongst heterosexual men & women.

        So what’s your point???

        • Tate October 16, 2019 at 4:13 am #

          Majella,

          You’re wrong. Marriage is for procreation & passing on one’s lineage. It’s a compact of fidelity between a man & a woman for the purpose of having offspring & raising them to successful adulthood.

          Although all gay relationships aren’t transient, they overwhelmingly tend to be. Stable gay pairings are in a distinct minority. And what they have isn’t marriage. It cheapens marriage to call these relationships marriages. Conflating long-term gay relationships — no matter how faithful they are — with marriage is part & parcel of you people’s project of tearing down the family, the core institution of our culture, & thereby destroying it. I’m not saying that’s personally your intent but it’s the inevitable result.

          As George Orwell pointed out, the first step in corrupting a society is to first corrupt the language by making it next to impossible for people to have sensible conversations. Way to go!

          • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2019 at 11:57 am #

            Wonder what the Old or Real Maori used to do with Homos.

            Maj has Hetero Friends. Who knew? But are they for real or just on the Maori down low?

          • Majella October 16, 2019 at 8:28 pm #

            Janos

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takat%C4%81pui

          • Majella October 17, 2019 at 3:05 am #

            Tate

            But procreation doesn’t require marriage. A ‘hook up’ – even just one copulation, nothing said, not even names exchanged – is sufficient.

            Marriage is an institution created by the state for management of property rights and benefit entitlements.

            Non-normative couples have the same citizen rights as the heterosexual cohort. State marriage provides equality of those rights. That’s all. Everything else you’ve said is just an expression of your own particular, personal cultural position and therefore irrelevant to the discussion.

          • Tate October 17, 2019 at 3:28 am #

            Wrong again, as always. You conveniently left out from my comment everything after the word “procreation.” Especially “& raising them [one’s progeny] to successful adulthood. We’re not beasts of the field, no matter how you deny man’s unique place in the cosmos.

          • Majella October 17, 2019 at 4:19 am #

            …and the state thanks you for that. Fortunately, the state also gives the non-normative the same right to procreate should they so desire. They just do it differently to you and poor old Mrs Tate did.

          • Tate October 17, 2019 at 5:22 pm #

            Sure, using surrogates. Nevertheless, the basis for the family is one man one woman. This is the ideal. Everything else is a poor substitute. And as for the two queer ‘married’ men who adopt male children, at some point this will have to be outlawed for the outrage it is.

          • Majella October 17, 2019 at 5:55 pm #

            Tate:

            “Sure, using surrogates.”

            Don’t non-productive hetero couples use similar techniques? Weren’t those techniques actually developed for them originally?

            “Nevertheless, the basis for the family is one man one woman. This is the ideal.”

            Who would disagree with what is ‘the ideal’? However, how common is this ideal? Surely then you disagree with divorce because it allows ‘man to put it asunder’?

            “Everything else is a poor substitute. And as for the two queer ‘married’ men who adopt male children, at some point this will have to be outlawed for the outrage it is.”

            As I said earlier, ‘…just an expression of your own particular, personal cultural position and therefore irrelevant to the discussion.’. This last remark simply proves my point for me. Thanks!

          • Majella October 17, 2019 at 6:02 pm #

            Janos – further to the Maori view of homosexuality. I assume you didn’t bother going to the link – you’re just to intellectually lazy – but here it is again:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Takat%C4%81pui

            Perhaps you looked at it briefly that time, but I’m pretty sure you didn’t read down to the second entry regarding the ancient pre-European legend of Hinemoa & Tutanekai, which directly answers yor snide question – so I’ve C&P’d that bit for you…

            “One of the great love stories of the M?ori world is the legend of Hinemoa and T?t?nekai. The story remains popular and is retold in songs, films, cultural theatre and dance.[10] Hinemoa defies her family to claim T?t?nekai, her “heart’s desire”—the love-child of a chief’s wife who was not her social equal.[10]

            In reading Te Rangik?heke’s original version in M?ori, Laurie found that T?t?nekai had a male friend, hoa takat?pui, named Tiki, and T?t?nekai was “nowhere near as impressed by Hinemoa as the romantic Victorian narrative had construed”.[10]

            After T?t?nekai became united with Hinemoa, Tiki famously grieved for the loss of his hoa takat?pui. T?t?nekai, feeling grieved as well, arranged that his younger sister marry Tiki to console him.[11]

            While no-one can say T?t?nekai and Tiki were sexually involved, their relationship was accepted to be intimate beyond mere friendship, and the story illustrates the concept that takat?pui in traditional M?ori life was not exactly the same as constructions of contemporary homosexuality in Western societies.”

          • Tate October 17, 2019 at 10:25 pm #

            “Don’t non-productive hetero couples use similar techniques?”

            In those cases they usually try to match the donor as closely as possible by genetics. Odd that it would be that way, isn’t it? Not to mention that there’s a mommy/daddy duo. Not mommy/mommy or daddy/daddy.

            “Surely then you disagree with divorce because it allows ‘man to put it asunder’?”

            Yes, I do disagree with divorce. Divorce is too easy.

            As to your last, it’s not just my “own particular personal cultural position,” it’s the position of our entire society up until the novelty of “gay marriage” was proclaimed by our black-robed rulers less than ten years ago.

          • Tate October 17, 2019 at 10:27 pm #

            And then we should emulate the pre-contact Maori in their sexual habits? Weren’t the Maori also cannibals? Should we adopt cannibalism because the Maori were cannibals?

      • Majella October 18, 2019 at 2:46 am #

        Tate

        Non-normative couples also use the genetic connection – certainly genetic material from one of the couple and, where possible, from a relative of the other. Nothing surprising there…you have no point to make on that one.

        As to ancient Maori, cannibals or not (which was entirely a warfare-based behavior & RITUAL, rather than nutritional, they showed more sense and compassion than you. They recognized that nature is a highly diverse system. Your thinking is culturally narrow, and certainly not as widely shared as you desperately hope.

        • Tate October 18, 2019 at 12:00 pm #

          My thinking is of the broad Western tradition. Yours is of the Franz Boaz variety. Do you belong to one of these “non-normative couples?” Your defense of deviance is definitely desperate.

    • malthuss October 15, 2019 at 9:35 pm #

      link?

      • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2019 at 12:00 pm #

        Colonel Clink.

        Remember, the time you asked me to give you everything I knew on Satanic Pedophile Cults first thing Monday Morning is preserved forever in Akashic Records – that means even after the Net goes down after an EMP strike. You are more Comedy than Comey. But I do respect your researches in this area.

  54. Pucker October 15, 2019 at 7:38 pm #

    The gays don’t subscribe to a belief in any kind of moral, self-discipline, do they? It’s all about permissiveness? “Everyone is Good; Everyone is broken.” The mindset of a broken pedophile?

    Chasten
    ?tigieg
    @Chas10Buttigieg
    ·
    Oct 14
    I believe there is good within all of us. If you choose to see the human, the fragile, the confused, and the hurting in all of those around you, then you understand the importance of connecting with everyone on a human level, too.

    • JohnAZ October 15, 2019 at 8:16 pm #

      But what happens when something acceptable even desirable to one social group is considered repugnant and immoral to another social group, and they live next to each other??? Especially when the former tries to convert the latter.

      • Majella October 16, 2019 at 2:36 am #

        Have you ever been unsuccessfully seduced by a gay guy, JohnAZ? Come on – tell all…

        • elysianfield October 16, 2019 at 7:58 pm #

          “Have you ever been unsuccessfully seduced”

          Majella,
          What would you consider “unsuccessful”?

          • Majella October 17, 2019 at 3:07 am #

            That would be where he hit the guy then relived the moment, privately, later. Bishop bashing may or may not be involved.

    • Majella October 16, 2019 at 2:35 am #

      As above to Tate. FFS!

  55. JohnAZ October 15, 2019 at 8:11 pm #

    GA

    Something that Scotland and the rest of Europe should be concerned about re: climate change.

    When they did the ice cores in Greenland to establish the CO2 to Warming correlation another opposing thing was discovered.

    The time changes between hot and cold periods are only 100 years in length. Not centuries or millennia. What could cause that in the natural nonAGW world?

    One of the theories to try to explain this is the ocean conveyor. The Gulf Stream is a component of a current that runs from the Indian Ocean around Africa, up the Atlantic and ends at the bottom of Greenland. Ends? No it doesn’t end, it sinks and returns at the bottom of the ocean to the Indian Ocean.

    What makes it sink? Salinity, cold water is heavier with salt and sinks.

    Well, the tip of Greenland and Iceland are in the vicinity and as we have all heard, they are melting and accelerating. Dumping lots of fresh water into the North Atlantic and diluting the water. Theory says that when a threshold of decreased salinity is reached, the current stops and Europe goes into an Ice box. The switch to Ice Age flips.

    So global warming may trigger an ice age. So it could be that what we are witnessing has happened over and over again in the past as the Earth adjusts to variations in its atmosphere and water temps.

    AGW could be accelerating the process making a 100 year melt cycle much less. There are many other causes of increasing CO2, volcanism being one, fauna and flora die offs another and wildfire another that could explain the recoveries from ice ages.

    Long ago, the Earth had one continent and during that time the geologic record shows an ice age for an extended period that was world wide, we were a frozen planet.

    The land distribution during the Mesozoic Era gave the Earth world wide warmth, that is why dinosaurs are in the polar areas.

    Getting hit major times by space debris and resultant crustal volcanism could explain huge changes in CO2 and maybe Earth’s rotation or orbit around the sun.

    My point is we do not have a clue what is really going on or have much control over it anyway. To the average Jills and Joes, 26 inches of sea level, they just do not care.

    Folks, the main drive now should aim at the same thing. Getting rid of the toxins that surround us, pollution in all environments, plastic bits in the Arctic, particulates that are carcinogenic that get through our lungs and lodge in our bodies, CO and sulfur levels high, ubiquitous plastic waste that takes thousands of years to degrade. And these are things we can do something something about. In the name of detoxification, not some abstract AGW.

    • SoftStarLight October 16, 2019 at 1:41 am #

      Have you ever heard of Snowball Earth? It may have happened more than once with glaciers making their way all the way to the Equator from both Poles!

      • Majella October 16, 2019 at 3:22 am #

        Heard of the hypothesis? Sure! Have you googled (and actually read) it?

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowball_Earth

        SSL – if you’re waiting for a new Ice Age to prove the ‘AGW Climate Alarmists’ wring, you’d be better off welcoming rising sea levels and unpredictably storminess than being encased under kilometers of ice.

        Either way, there’s no getting out of this one.

        • Majella October 16, 2019 at 3:23 am #

          ‘ wring’ = warning

          • Majella October 16, 2019 at 4:07 am #

            Fecking auto-correct! ‘Wring’ = ‘wrong’ , not ‘warning’. Probably would have been simpler to leave the original typo…

    • Majella October 16, 2019 at 3:32 am #

      Yes, yes, yes JohnAZ. I recall learning if this hypothesis in the 1970s, 80s. Recent updated research has it related to climate change:

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_of_thermohaline_circulation

      How ironic.

    • Majella October 16, 2019 at 4:15 am #

      The salinity thing – the new arrived fresh water off the glaciers pushes the salt water deeper, so the natural circulation at the northern latitudes is compromised or, possibly, halted. Oops. ‘Global warming’ causes an ice age – that’s why the reference evolved to Climate Change. Go figure…the law of unintended consequences, huh?

      • benr October 16, 2019 at 10:05 am #

        No they could not actually prove global warming no matter how hard they tried so instead they changed it to climate change so they could point at anything and say SEE.

        • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 10:49 am #

          benr

          There ya go…

          https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/whats-difference-between-global-warming-and-climate-change

          Global warming refers only to the Earth’s rising surface temperature, while climate change includes warming and the “side effects” of warming—like melting glaciers, heavier rainstorms, or more frequent drought. Said another way, global warming is one symptom of the much larger problem of human-caused climate change.”

          I’ve explained it several times already. Not that I imagine for a moment that you won’t say the same thing again. And again… It being part of the narrative an’ all.

          • malthuss October 16, 2019 at 10:54 am #

            Irrelevant? Me or you, projecting?
            rabbit stew? ‘ Falls of the bone… delicious. ‘

          • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2019 at 12:04 pm #

            John just pointed out how radically the climate is always changing irrespective of Man and his Industry. Or did Dinosaur Industry cause the polar ice caps to melt? You lose as usual, Maus.

          • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 2:16 pm #

            Pot roast, malthuss, not stew. Stew is a wetter version. The only moisture comes from the battuto.

            Janos, people have been dying since people existed. If they die of cancer or heart disease, you can’t say those things didn’t kill them just because people have always died. Read some flippin’ science instead of flaunting your ignorance. It’s embarrassing.

  56. KesaAnna October 15, 2019 at 8:30 pm #

    ” Kesa, your eloquence is engaging and while it doesn’t actually matter, it’d be useful to know who you’re slapping upside the head when you do! ”

    I assume people would recognize their own quotes .

    If they are so indifferent to their own product , then , you said it yourself ; ” it doesn’t actually matter ” .

    • Majella October 15, 2019 at 9:33 pm #

      True.

      I assume people recognize their own quotes too. I couldn’t track back to the quote that evoked your remark, was all.

  57. KesaAnna October 15, 2019 at 9:31 pm #

    ” ” you haven’t even made a decent porno flick in twenty years”

    Kesa,
    Speak for yourself…. ”

    I was referring to a time , however vague and nebulous it was , when it appeared that the porn industry might advance to feature – length films , with something like real plots , and scripts that weren’t thrown together five minutes earlier.

    But then videotape came along.

    Remember when computers were supposed to so streamline , and so ease , the doings of business and industry that we would all wind up richer , and with more leisure time ?

    Well , the same sort of thing didn’t happen with videotape in the porn industry.

    The relative cheapness and greater utility of videotape did not lead to a renaissance of creativity . Instead , the Nabobs of the porn industry just got greedier.

    ( That’s odd . The dogma of the Sexual Revolution and its hacks in the social and political sciences hold that sex is front and center and vital and transcendent.
    But where you might most expect to see that proven , the proof suggests otherwise. Less effort , less investment , less involvement.
    The very important thing is almost an afterthought , or like the bastard at a family reunion . )

    Then the internet came along . Roughly the same number of people buy their porn as in 1970.

    The 12 year olds , though , get their porn for free , and with easy access now , and might grow up to expect it free and easy as the status quo. Not necessarily an optimistic development for porn as business.

    But , perhaps , I’m being a bit hard on cheap porn.

    I’m sure I’m not the only person who , if they cannot have cable or satellite TV , simply quits watching TV.

    Because the content , generally , on ABC , CBS , and NBC is so crude , so brutish , so vulgar , so dishonest , so mean – spirited , so lacking in any sense of proportion or fairness ,

    that it really does make cheap porn look like an artistic and civilizational upgrade.

    As far as statues go ….. well , I have actually seen some impressive examples go up in the past thirty years.

    More commonly though , the funny thing is that in many towns throughout the South , if you remove the Confederate monuments , the only significant public art you would be left with is the Burger King sign.

    In the private sector , graveyards were once repositories of some really great public art. Commonly and ubiquitously.

    Not at all anymore. I suppose a thousand years hence archeologists will think we were actually very very poor , or that the norm was that we hated our dead relatives.

    As I said recently , three years working as a call girl is not what made me so cynical.

    It was six years working as a clerk in a law office.

    That is to say , I would say , based on those experiences , that the average police officer knows more about whoring than the average call girl . 😛

    • Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2019 at 10:55 pm #

      When the Israelis wanted to pay the Palestinians back, they took over a TV station and broadcast porn. What a vicious weapon against the youth and thus any religious culture.

      The entire West has been subject to this tactic for the last generation and more. And if any initiative was ever created to end it, the Evil Ones would use it to simultaneously end all free speech on the internet as well.

      They’ve got us in a choke hold and they just have to hold on a bit longer and it’s all over for us. Can our hand reach that knife before we pass out?

    • BackRowHeckler October 15, 2019 at 11:01 pm #

      ” … the funny thing is that in many towns throughout the South, if you remove the Confederate monuments, the only significant public art you would be left with is the Burger King sign.”

      KesaAnna, the line of the week. The line of the year!!!

    • SoftStarLight October 16, 2019 at 2:11 am #

      Well excuse me! I hadn’t realized that non-Southern towns were chalk full of significant public art. Nor did I realize that Burger King was not ubiquitous in these artsy little perfect non-Southern towns. I suppose I should ponder how uncultured my surroundings are more often.

      Ha ha :-)! That ain’t just the South Kesa. You might as well have said Anytown USA. Then just alternate between McDonalds, Jack In the Box, etc., depending on region.

      • BackRowHeckler October 16, 2019 at 3:01 am #

        I don’t think she meant offend you SSL.

        You have to admit Kesa Anna is a witty one.

        • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 8:27 am #

          “that non-Southern towns were chalk full of significant public art.”

          But SSL’s better at malapropisms and they’re amusing too. 🙂

          Or maybe the public art up north is carved in unusual material.

          • BackRowHeckler October 16, 2019 at 10:29 am #

            Not much public art up here in the northland either.

            Altho I must admit our Civil War monuments have not yet been vandalized.

            What have been vilified and vandalized, however, are colonial era statues commemorating soldiers who defeated the Indians in the Pequot War and King Philip War, red paint poured over them, signs hung on them reading ‘murderer’ and so on. You get the picture.

            Brh

          • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 11:07 am #

            “Altho I must admit our Civil War monuments have not yet been vandalized.”

            If your towns were chalk full, rather than chock full of monuments they’d have been vandalised with greater ease.

            On the whole I’m for leaving historic monuments where they are, and doing any ‘editing’ via a plaque, which can be further edited in future if need be.

            Except in extremis, with the toppling of statues of dictators. People need to vent and such iconoclasm is cathartic (as well as being as old as the hills).

            https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/world/controversial-statues-monuments-destroyed.html

            I see one of the earliest modern examples of was the toppling of the statue of George III in 1776 over your way.. Presumably a bit of didactic editing on a plaque wouldn’t have cut it in that instance. 🙂

          • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2019 at 12:10 pm #

            Yeah cuz as Elrond says, We need to always remember and never forget how evil Whites are. And as Alba intimates, new evils may be remembered or discovered, so the “plaques” (plagues) may need to be changed.

            I think we can safely predict that the plaques on safe statues will progressively get worse until the non-Whites tear them down in a fit or rage as the remaining Whites tremble in fear. White girls will steer clear of White boys at that point, realizing that Whites have no future and they need to end the disease of Whiteness by breeding non-White.

          • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 2:12 pm #

            Janos, your psychosis is noticeably worse today. Please. Seek. Help.

          • SoftStarLight October 17, 2019 at 2:08 am #

            Well I don’t see any good reason why an “editing” plaque needs to be added to any monument. Basically you are agreeing that its good to apologize for monuments then at that point. You know some people need to learn to suck it up and get over their own hangups. Here is a big idea. When someone requests a plaque be added to a monument to apologize for the monument they should receive a special certificate with the following phrase in humongous bold type “Get Over It Loser”.

            Chock is a word LOL?! It sounds really dirty.

          • GreenAlba October 17, 2019 at 7:39 am #

            “Well I don’t see any good reason why an “editing” plaque needs to be added to any monument. Basically you are agreeing that its good to apologize for monuments then at that point. ”

            Er no, I’m just pointing out that plaques exist as an opportunity to explain who the person is in the monument. I don’t give a tinker’s cuss about either your monuments or any hypothetical plaques beside them. But some people may wish to explain some nuances of history and if that pleases them and most people agree on the matter, the opportunity exists without defacing a possibly fine monument.

            We have a number of chaps on horseback in my ancient city, as you’d expect – I pay their identity little mind most of the time and would occasionally need to be reminded who they are. But they add to the general aesthetic quality of the public space, as people pass by with their bags from Gap or Topshop, while staring into their phones.

            “Get over it, loser” is a very American concept, not generally heard elsewhere – except from the occasional Brexiter, of course, although even they point to the loss rather the individual, as in ‘you lost – get over it’. In fact the very concept of ‘loser’ as a person who should be treated with derision rather than Christian charity is also a very American concept.

            So, possibly, is the idea of having people go all through school without ever coming across ‘chock full’ or ‘chocks away’. But all we nations have our failings. You are fond of pointing out ours.

            Why would chock sound dirty? That’s just plain weird.

            You’ll be telling me you’ve never heard ‘full to the gunwales’ next. 🙂

          • Majella October 17, 2019 at 6:11 pm #

            GA & SSL

            I believe the way that ‘chock’ as I (a southern NZ, Scot-descended Kiwi) would say it, would sound like “chalk” the way I imagine SSL might pronounce it.

            In Kiwi, “chalk” would sound like ‘chork’. Just sayin’.

            I suspect the Scottish pronunciations would be similar to mine.

          • Majella October 17, 2019 at 6:14 pm #

            “Full to the gunwales”

            This probably deserves some pronunciation explanation too. ‘Gunwales” is pronounced ‘gun’ales’ (gunnills).

            What ARE “gunwales”?

            https://www.google.com/search?q=gunwales&oq=gunwales&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.1463j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

          • SoftStarLight October 18, 2019 at 2:29 am #

            Full to the gunwales? What the heck?

        • SoftStarLight October 17, 2019 at 1:52 am #

          I probably overreacted didn’t I. It was actually very witty after all. You are always so nice and calm and collected Brh.

      • sprawlcapital October 16, 2019 at 10:46 am #

        chalk [chock] full

        • SoftStarLight October 17, 2019 at 2:11 am #

          Chalk does sound better though. Especially with a lilt.

      • Tate October 16, 2019 at 8:45 pm #

        Chalk vs chock.

        That’s okay, SSL. “Chalk” proves you’re for a real Southerner.

        • Tate October 16, 2019 at 8:46 pm #

          “… proves you’re a real Southerner.”

          • SoftStarLight October 17, 2019 at 2:16 am #

            I have learned a new word :-). But I also realize I have been saying that wrong since forever lol. Oh well, I’m fixin to learn more new words I’m sure!

  58. Janos Skorenzy October 15, 2019 at 10:09 pm #

    https://www.amren.com/news/2019/10/georgia-southern-incident-do-students-go-to-college-to-read-books-or-burn-them/

    The books were they were burning were their own; an anti-White book they had been required to purchase and read for a required anti-White course. So when the author appeared to berate them in person, they made their displeasure known in accordance with the Constitution of these here United States.

    So not quite a Nazi book burning. The classic picture peddled by the Left of Nazis burning books is that of Nazis burning a book by Marcus Hirschfield about how Homosexuality is normal. A good book to burn in any case if burn books you must. Let’s hope it doesnt’ get that far. But it’s already gotten a lot further in this respect than it ever did in Wiemar.

    • BackRowHeckler October 15, 2019 at 10:33 pm #

      The biggest book burner in the 20th century was Lenins wife. In fact siezing and destroying books was her official party job.

      Soviet Comrade Citizens were required by law to deliver banned books to the Kremlin, where they would be destroyed. God forbid if you got caught with a banned book in your apartment in Moscow. Off to the gulag you went.

      Brh

    • SoftStarLight October 16, 2019 at 2:37 am #

      Will you give me another book for that fire? I’m getting cold lol ;-). Blacks burned cities for their civil rights so in my opinion this is good behavior. I doubt good behavior will go on too long since the outrages increase and expand by the day. Polite Leaders and their friends are only polite for so long after asking nicely and repeatedly

      • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 11:35 am #

        You’re getting cold? Sorry to hear that.

        Here you go…

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFwOF9VTvhA

        Hope you’re feeling more comfortable.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2019 at 12:13 pm #

        Where are the Dinosaur Industrialists to melt the ice caps when you need them? I just saw a mouse under the bed. Do you have that new mouse trap we bought?

        • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2019 at 12:43 pm #

          The mousetrap is the thing to catch the conscience of this thing.

          • SoftStarLight October 17, 2019 at 2:28 am #

            You are so sweet. And here I was thinkin we were trying to trap em, snap em, and trash em. But you are always one step ahead ;-).

        • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 2:10 pm #

          Like I said, Janos, there are charities…

          • SoftStarLight October 17, 2019 at 2:43 am #

            Ah but see Alba. That’s the super funny thing. There are certain people deemed not to need charity despite their lot in life. I used to support a certain charity because I really believed in their mission. Namely that they were helping struggling families and people right here in the good ole US of A. And then guess what. They started sending me updates or booklets whatever and every single last person they pictured as a recipient of the charity were in fact foreigners and all non-White. Humans, see I believe in their humanity, whose suffering is noteworthy and assistance should be given. But! Ultimately I got angry with them. Is it really too much to acknowledge that there are poor White families worthy of charitable intentions? Life is full of those little nuances and you know that very well.

          • GreenAlba October 17, 2019 at 12:15 pm #

            Absolutely, SSL. I reconfirm that I believe that Janos deserves some very white charity to help him out with his very white issues.

      • elysianfield October 16, 2019 at 8:04 pm #

        “Blacks burned cities for their civil rights”

        SSL,
        Shameless spin…do not repeat that canard.

      • Tate October 16, 2019 at 8:52 pm #

        They burned cities just because they had a good excuse to loot & pillage. The question is who financed James Earl Ray?

      • Majella October 17, 2019 at 3:13 am #

        GA – he ironic – the twenty-year-old woman was dressed in what is, essentially, a full on burqa, huh?

        SSL – could you whip a few up for yourself and the family?

    • malthuss October 16, 2019 at 10:58 am #

      Black professor stole nearly 200k. strip club money.

      Drexel University from now until someone else probably tries to get away with what he did. Dr. Chika Nwankpa decided it was a great idea to spend nearly $200,000 of federal grant money in strip clubs and sports bars! Yes, the 56-year-old misappropriated funds that were issued by the Navy, the Department of Energy, and the National Science Foundation.

      The best part of this whole thing is that people were clueless as to what this sneaky genius psycho was doing because he had apparently been tossing money left and right to strippers for more than a decade! How this man didn’t get caught is beyond me.

      Nwankpa reportedly worked as head of the Electrical and Computer Engineering Department for 27 years. The university ultimately discovered the alleged fraud in 2017 during an internal audit, and well, alerted the government because he was treating his friends and colleagues to lap dances.

      So, to break it down for you, he was basically spending $20,000 per year for 10 years! That’s insane! Impressive, but insane. Especially since it takes a lot of guts to do it in the first place. Through a statement, U.S. Attorney William McSwain noted “This is an example of flagrant and audacious fraud and a shameful misuse of public funds. The agencies providing these grant funds expect them to be used towards advancements in energy and naval technology for public benefit, not for personal entertainment.”

      Last year investigators found Nwanka ……..etc

      • JohnAZ October 16, 2019 at 12:20 pm #

        Feds do not have enough monitoring function folks to do the job. We are all on and honor system basically.

        Unfortunately, not everyone is honorable. My guess is this guy turned in all required documentation to keep himself covered.

      • RIB October 16, 2019 at 2:00 pm #

        “200 hours of community service. Next case.”

    • malthuss October 16, 2019 at 11:00 am #

      Janos, normalizing Nazis since 1969.

      Alexander_the_Great_aka Alexander the gay.

      • capt spaulding October 16, 2019 at 8:22 pm #

        Is that a Phalanx, or are you just happy to see me?

  59. Majella October 16, 2019 at 2:51 am #

    Cold in Louisiana? Even in February, you’ll be swanning about I’m Minnesota summer wear.

    Can you please expand on these ‘daily outrages’ that are apparently increasing everyday?

    What *I* see on a daily basis, is the growing fascist nastiness, such as the football hooligans on Europe (Bulgaria being the case in point this week).

    You, Janos et al – you’re powerless and frustrated. To be specific, Janis is deluded while you’re just confused.

    • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 8:31 am #

      That was quite something, wasn’t it, Majella? To their credit, the English players behaved like gentlemen, in the face of provocation, while the simians in the Bulgarian stands showed themselves for what they were.

      • benr October 16, 2019 at 10:14 am #

        Don’t bash the soccer thugs to hard they might be the only hope for parts of Europe.

        • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 11:17 am #

          Seriously, benr – you think making monkey noises at talented and dignified black football players is a signifier of ‘hope’?

          I wouldn’t bash them. I’d put them in orange uniforms and make them clean the streets for a year. With a black supervisor, although that would be like finding hen’s teeth in Eastern Europe. Let’s make it a black female supervisor just to piss them off even more. And make the uniforms pink. With bunny ears.

          Megawankers. Trying to show the superiority of their er…culture. You couldn’t make it up.

          • benr October 16, 2019 at 12:08 pm #

            Tribalism on display nothing more.
            Anyone killed?
            Anyone physically hurt?

            No then have the aggrieved fill out a hurt feelings chit as if calling someone a name deserves punishment!

            Now authoritarian actions involving punishment for name calling you can’t take back.
            Shall we enact Chinas social credit score? Shall we jail and murder those we don’t agree with and make their families for the tank diesel and time it takes to wash the bones and gore off when you roll over them or rope or bullet and then sell their body parts on the open market?
            How far down the rabbit hole are you willing to go?

          • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2019 at 12:17 pm #

            Here’s the real Alba, folks. Wants to import Black supervisors into the few remaining parts of White Europe. Frustrated Commissar who missed her Path in life by a few decades or a thousand miles or so. But at least she has a few comrades like Maori Maj to ease her pain.

          • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 2:02 pm #

            Janos, quit the bollocks. I know Nazis have no sense of humour but you could try to remove your head from your nether regions occasionally.

            benr, complain to FIFA if you are incensed. They have rules. One of them is not having fans hurl racial abuse at players during the game.

            The players stopped. A complaint was made and the game went on. The racist simians continued with their simian behaviour. Eventually a bunch of them were led out. I don’t imagine anything happened to them, but I wouldn’t know as I don’t follow football antics.

          • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 2:44 pm #

            FIFA isn’t a court or the police. But it can cut the number of fans present at international games, I believe, if the team repeatedly can’t get them to behave decently. The team, for its part, can refuse to sell tickets to previously offending simians, if it chooses. All fair enough and no legal sanctions involved. All the simians are required to do is pretend they’re full humans for a couple of hours and everyone’s happy.

          • Majella October 16, 2019 at 7:07 pm #

            “Here’s the real Alba, folks”.

            Here’s the real (typical)Janos, folks, just making it up as he goes along.

            I was particularly intrigued by the ‘Maori Maj’ handle. Not sure what twisted line of thinking brought you to that. Once again, and as with all your racist nazi rants, you have not the first idea of what you’re on about.

            Viz a couple of threads ago – one of your RWNJ compatriots informed you that a recent New Zealand Governor-General was a Hindu, based solely on his name, Anand Satyanand.

            You immediately fell into your typical persona of black rage on behalf of all white people, accusing the whole NZ population, virtually, of being race-traitors for “buying into this crap”.

            Yet a simply google search would have INFORMED you (anathema to anyone with such a narrow narrative) that Sir Anand Satyanand, a respected barrister and distinguished judge, was born in New Zealand to legally immigrated parents of Fijian-Indian descent and was, gasp, a born & raised Catholic who continues to practice.

            Now, it’s highly likely I’m supposing that Janos’ particular Jesuit-inspired pre-Vatican II Catholicism doesn’t count brown-skinned people as actual Catholics. No doubt he’s a Hindu who’s faking it, right?.

            Janos, you’ve convinced yourself that you are some sort of ubermensch and entertain yourself with high-falutin’ rhetoric, but as far as I can tell, you’re a sad person living a shriveled life in a shrivelled world you’ve created for yourself.

          • Majella October 16, 2019 at 7:15 pm #

            benr – how do you get from Bulgarian vulgarians to Chinese Social Credit Scores and body-part markets? Sounds like YOU’RE in a rabbit hole.

      • malthuss October 16, 2019 at 11:06 am #

        s quite something yourself, you old prig.

        football hooligans —

        After two years of police work and legal debate, the British Government announced today that 26 British soccer fans would be extradited to Belgium to face charges resulting from the 1985 Heysel Stadium riot in which 39 people were killed.

        The extradition decision underlines the Government’s etc

        • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 11:20 am #

          Good.

          But I’m not sure why it makes me an ‘old prig’. You’re not a very nice person, are you malthuss? Maybe it’s years of hanging around celebrities looking for salacious gossip you pretend you wish you hadn’t heard that’s done it.

        • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 11:43 am #

          Interesting that the Liverpool fans in question all looked like white punks. Not the narrative, I know…

          • malthuss October 16, 2019 at 1:24 pm #

            Cudos to you for pointing that out.

            A local security guard is from Liverpool. He is fat, very red, looks half dead. I am not sure why he left UK.
            Maybe he ran from the Lpool hooligans. Now he faces MS13.

          • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 1:53 pm #

            I believe quite a few security guards are recruited from among ex-crims. Not that I’d like to cast aspersions. When she was young my daughter went out with one who was the son of an architect and basically just a bit introverted and not very aspirational, doing whatever he could get.

            I think he was from Liverpool, in fact. His name was Rob, which never occurred to me at the time as am amusing name for a security guard. Certainly for one who operates on both sides of the fence.

          • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 1:55 pm #

            Younger, not young – 20s I mean.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2019 at 6:19 pm #

            What’s a milk bar?

          • elysianfield October 16, 2019 at 8:11 pm #

            “What’s a milk bar?

            #Droogies

          • capt spaulding October 16, 2019 at 8:26 pm #

            Moloko, Drencro.

          • Majella October 17, 2019 at 3:23 am #

            ‘ Pint of Synthemesc for me, and a Moloko + vellocet for me devotchka…’

    • SoftStarLight October 17, 2019 at 3:05 am #

      Well you are only choosing to see this “facist nastiness” while choosing not to see all of the anti-White propoganda and assaults that are occurring with greater frequency. I could understand this alleged ignorance if you only tuned in to the mainstream. But the fact that you are here proves you are exposed to much more of reality than maybe you realize or perhaps are ignoring.

      • Majella October 17, 2019 at 3:24 am #

        Huh? Blithering again SSL….

        • SoftStarLight October 18, 2019 at 2:26 am #

          Truth Bomb dazed and confused ya.

      • GreenAlba October 17, 2019 at 12:30 pm #

        “Well you are only choosing to see this “facist nastiness” ”

        Nobody’s judging them by their faces. Nobody.

  60. volodya October 16, 2019 at 11:35 am #

    Majella, I didn’t follow the whole discussion as to exactly who this “Deep State” is. But I’m throwing in my two cents seeing as you referenced my screen-name earlier on.

    In the most general terms this “Deep State” is a way of referring to an unelected governing clerisy, a lot which people deal with on a day-to-day basis and which has fairly high visibility, but some of which exists in the background and which has fairly low or non-existent visibility. 

    People have got different opinions as to what this Deep State consists of. Some people would include the Donor Class which, as the name suggests, donate a lot of money to both the Democrat and Republican parties and so which has a lot of influence on policy affecting Donor Class interests and similarly on economic and monetary policy. Some people would include so-called “think-tanks”. 

    Suffice to say that this Deep State, being unelected, has not got a lot of accountability to the average citizen. You can say that there are contending factions inside this Deep State, while others say that there is also a lot of consensus among them as to the shape the world ought to take economically and politically. Some would call this consensus “group-think”, some would refer to it as “cronyism”. 

    What makes this Deep State dangerous is the power they wield. The Department of Justice is not an organization to take lightly as we’ve seen in the past few years, nor is the FBI, nor the CIA nor the Pentagon. Nor are the plethora of intelligence agencies. They have the power to harass individuals and to up-end and ruin lives. As Chuck Shumer said in an excess of candor, they can get you six ways to Sunday. 

    It’s not just the average joe or the run-of-the-mill whistle-blower, they have also got the means to harass elected officials, including presidents and the president’s appointees. Some would say what’s been going on since 2016 is in effect an attempted coup to remove a president unpalatable to too many in this unelected elite. Some would day that this Deep State has in the past been down-right lethal in asserting its objections, killing a president and a presidential contender as well as convenient fall-guys. A lot of discretion exists as to who to go after. As Eric Holder said a while back, some interests are “too big to jail.”

    In my opinion, what this Deep State does by-and-large, is to direct policy, much of it to the advantage of narrow interests, mostly outlandishly wealthy, some these interests being American, some non-American. They are the advocates for foreign policies which I consider calamitous and investment and trade policies which I consider doubly so because they benefit a small slice of the populace and massively disadvantage the rest. 

    I could go on but I think you get the drift. 

    • JohnAZ October 16, 2019 at 12:11 pm #

      Wow, well said.

      My adder is that the keyword is unelected control. When the elected officials sign up, through bureaucratic control, or lobbying efforts to this unelected group, the voters are disenfranchised. This has been happening for a long while and is increasing in intensity over the recent thirty years or so. It is a knife at the throat of a republican system where the public vote sets the agenda. Special and individual interests take over, removing the vote.

      Trump’s election was a rust belt, who has been hurt the worst, reaction to Deep State trends. His removal would be the final victory for the Deep State.

      People who believe in government control believe in the Deep State.

      People who believe in capitalism, free markets and individual responsibility consider the Deep State the enemy.

      Deep Staters also consider the government as infallible, they have to to subjugate themselves to its whims.

      The Deep State is also comprised of the Elites that want to control their situation using the government.

      • JohnAZ October 16, 2019 at 12:14 pm #

        And it is not a conspiracy but a Change in polity due to outside influence and resultant demographic shifts. One big shift that is pushing the US and many others is urbanization. A huge change.

      • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2019 at 12:26 pm #

        Dumb, Dumber, and Dumbest. Thus do you compete with yourself. The Corporations are totally with and behind the Deep State along with the Bankers. What the fuck, guy. Try ginseng or something. Or get high if you never have before. You need to jolt yourself somehow. Who do you think those Elites (last line) are? Street sweepers?

        The Word was with God. The Word was God. It’s like that. Maybe some politicians have real Power amongst them, but most are employees under their thumb. Like your Eisenhower was to Bernard Baruch.

        • volodya October 16, 2019 at 12:31 pm #

          Dumb, Dumber, and Dumbest. Thus do you compete with yourself. The Corporations are totally with and behind the Deep State along with the Bankers. – JS

          What do you think we were just talking about? Exactly that.

          • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2019 at 12:46 pm #

            I was talking to John, Volly. He thinks Capitalism is good and Communism is evil. Unlike us, he doesn’t realize that they’re the same system with the same People behind both. That’s why “we” betrayed Chiang Kai Shek (sp?) in favor of Mao. Chiang would have been lots of Capitalism too – but not the right kind, eh?

            Now answer YOUR question below.

      • The problem with “deep state” as people are adopting the term, is the subjective definition.

        Ralph Nader, for example, used different terms for subversion of democratic processes, like “corporate criminals”, “corporate crime wave”, etc. which left less doubt as to who and what and is described as Volodya puts it, “direct(ing) policy, much of it to the advantage of narrow interests, mostly outlandishly wealthy, some these interests being American, some non-American. ”

        Deep State in the Kunstlerian defintion is fairly narrowly defined as Law enforcement (FBI) and military intelligence (CIA, NSA) actors, whom he names, and the politicians and parties allegedly in collusion, with certain actions, for certain purposes.

        What happened to the Rust Belt, which frankly occurred over a span of a half-century and is complex, probably fits an economic, social, or corporate-driven agenda rather than a national security agenda, insofar as the broad rationalizations fit.

      • benr October 16, 2019 at 5:38 pm #

        Most of all the deep state seeks to privatize profit and socialize risk or loss and they use the levers of government to do so.
        They run money through various systems or even other governments to syphon or launder it.
        Pallets of hundreds littered a run way in Iraq some was used to pay off the locals and some was used to payback people that made it happen!

        Do you think the hundreds of billions handed back to Iran was just about giving back Iran it’s money???
        How is Obama becoming an billionaire?
        Most certainly not by the sweat and toil of his own efforts!

    • Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2019 at 12:21 pm #

      So do you repudiate Tikkun Ollam, then? The desire and intent to rectify the world by tearing it down and putting the right people (your people) on top?

      Who do you think funded Communism? Or do you think it was just peasants with pitchforks and workers with hammers like our two fem naifs do?

      • malthuss October 16, 2019 at 1:25 pm #

        IF I HAD A HAMMER– Pete Seeger. commie extraordinaire.

      • Majella October 16, 2019 at 7:21 pm #

        “our two fem naifs”…Janos, you’re such a fecking wanker.

      • capt spaulding October 16, 2019 at 8:30 pm #

        I thought it was gay people trying to rectify the world.

    • Majella October 16, 2019 at 7:37 pm #

      Volodya

      I get your point. I guess the term ‘Deep State’ has been co-opted by many with different agendas & perspectives. As Snacks remarks, it’s all very subjective, and in my view, that renders the term virtually useless.

      • Nightowl October 17, 2019 at 3:48 pm #

        But not mysterious “collusion,” oh no.

        • Majella October 17, 2019 at 7:09 pm #

          What was ‘mysterious’ about it, Nightowl?

          If I recall the story went something like:

          ” There is no collusion”, transmogrified into

          “Collusion is not a crime”, which duly morphed into

          ” So what?”

          Mueller didn’t find ‘collusion’ because there’s no such crime. He did, however, find myriad instances of obstruction of justice and attempted obstruction of justice, which ARE crimes.

          It appears that the Trump Campaign was just too inept to get ‘in collusion’ with the Russian ‘bot & troll farms efforts on its behalf. It hadn’t ASKED for that assistance, but when it was offered, they practically salivated. But, still, it couldn’t take two steps in the same direction without tripping over its own shoe-laces.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RusiDWhqhuw

  61. Janos Skorenzy October 16, 2019 at 12:58 pm #

    JS: It’s all here. Mr Hood hits it out of the park as usual. Political Correctness is a religion for Whites without salvation. All you get to do is feel guilty and cower. Gold. Lots more below.

    You Have a Mission by Gregory Hood, American Renaissance

    Adapted from recent remarks.

    “What if we rounded up all suspected white domestic supremacist terrorists and took their kids from them and put them in camps and molested and starved them? Just curious.” This was a recent tweet from former Democrat congressional candidate Dayne Steele.

    “The Founding Fathers were white nationalist terrorists,” tweeted Professor Nelson Flores.

    Popular author Joanna Schroeder urged mothers to “stalk” their sons’ social media to make sure they aren’t sucked into white nationalism. She also warned mothers about worrying “red flags,” such as using the word “triggered.”

    Finally, nearly one thousand people “liked” a tweet from user @coastalelite22, a “mom of two white boys.” She complained it was so hard to get her sons to see how “entitled” they are that she wondered if this wasn’t a “genetic defect.”

    In the “Satanic Panic” of the 1980s, Christian mothers supposedly were afraid that playing “Dungeons & Dragons” lead to demonic possession. Pastors burned heavy metal paraphernalia, and tabloids and television spread lurid tales of occult rituals. This is easy to mock in retrospect.

    Today, many journalists, artists and “satirists” are more credulous than the most paranoid church lady. They describe the 2017 Unite the Right protest in Charlottesville as if it was a pogrom. The independent report confirming police deliberately provoked violence had almost no impact. Incredibly, in Newsweek’s August 9 cover story, former Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe brags about how he handled the rally. If the Department of Justice cared about the rule of law, it would investigate him.

    Conservatives are following liberals like dogs on leashes. Breitbart thinks the liberal media is “empowering white supremacists.” National Review wants “war” against them.

    Foreign Policy claims “white supremacists” want a nuclear weapon, “and the Trump Administration is letting them get dangerously close to acquiring one.” Of course, many journalists think President Trump himself is a white supremacist, so I guess it’s too late.

    “Radicalization” is the enemy. Websites, videos, and even books must be banned or deplatformed lest whites “radicalize.”

    It’s true that media affect behavior. One small example: a suicide scene in the Netflix program “Thirteen Seasons Why” aired at the same time as a dramatic spike in teen suicides. We can’t be sure, but the program probably had an impact.

    Yet who is really radicalizing? More importantly, who controls the corporate media? White advocates certainly don’t. American Renaissance can’t even have a Twitter account.

    Hateful attacks against whites because of our inherent characteristics are common. “White men” is almost an insult. Who is inciting hatred based on race? Who has the power to do it? If “white privilege” were real, Sarah Jeong would have been punished for her vulgar comments, not promoted to the New York Times Editorial Board.

    Radicalization has taken place, but on the other side. Researcher Zach Goldberg found that the number of news articles about “white privilege,” “unconscious bias,” “whiteness” and other terms shot up around the time of the 2014 Ferguson “protests.” White liberals’ views on race and immigration shifted dramatically leftward even before Donald Trump was elected. Matthew Yglesias calls it “The Great Awokening.”

    The term captures its essentially religious nature. Most people don’t approach politics rationally. For example, we know that the catalytic event, Michael Brown’s death, was a justified case of self-defense. Yet the truth doesn’t matter — recently, several Democratic presidential candidates said he was “murdered.”

    Mr. Goldberg noted that white liberals have an “out-group” bias, meaning they prefer groups other than themselves. They have higher levels of “white privilege awareness.” However, a recent study also revealed that white liberals, unlike white conservatives, speak patronizingly to people of color.

    This suggests a savior complex. “Anti-racism” offers intoxicating feelings of righteousness and self-worth. It is a status symbol, a “luxury belief.” It is also a modern equivalent to an indulgence: A rich person can justify his wealth because he reads a sacred text (Ta-Nehisi Coates) and opposes the white privilege of Appalachian coal miners.

    In 2015, a scholarly paper on campus “microaggressions” argued America is moving to a “victim-based” morality instead of a “rights-based” morality. In such a system, the person who decides who is “victim” and who is “oppressor” has the most power.

    Who governs? Journalists, educators, and, ultimately, their paymasters. If you doubt that, just remember that it is “impossible” to be racist against white people. White people hold institutional power by definition. If you deny any of this, it is proof of your “fragility.” Some elites profit from trapping us in this verbal prison.

    By preaching egalitarianism, one can escape its consequences. Robin DiAngelo, who is white, reportedly got $12,000 from the University of Kentucky for a two-hour speech on “white privilege.” Perhaps she means what she says. Perhaps not. She profits either way.

    America is arguably defined by racial hypocrisy. It’s easy to be cynical when you see where liberal whites live and send their children to school.

    Yet the doctrine of white privilege is poison for anyone who truly believe it. Anti-racism is a church with no salvation. All whites, no matter what they do or say, are forever racist. Whites must constantly struggle against their very nature.

    This isn’t new — there were Christian sects now extinct because they taught that reproduction was inherently sinful. Even that’s less fanatical than the collective suicide/murders of Jim Jones’s pseudo-Christian “Peoples Temple.”

    Most of the managerial class’s grassroots “disciples” probably believe the egalitarian creed. It is the orthodox faith. It structures their lives. Most people can live with flagrant contradictions.

    Sometimes when people tell lies, they can convince themselves the lies are true. In the psychological disease Munchausen by proxy, a parent intentionally harms his child for attention and sympathy. A “mommy blogger” who killed her child in 2014 may have suffered from this. Yet from what I’ve read about the case, the woman denies her guilt. Perhaps she really believes someone else killed her son. This may be true of some who stage “hate hoaxes.” Perhaps, in their own minds, they really think these things happened.

    Why not? They are participating in a cosmic drama of good and evil, the same one they see on television shows, movies, magazines, and online. The drama is more real to them than actual relationships with family members or friends. If you see demons and angels waging an invisible battle, you could be institutionalized. If you see Adolf Hitler behind every bush, Klansmen meeting in every forest, and fascist conspiracies in the halls of power, you get a verified account on Twitter. No wonder “Nazi zombies” are a media trope — even after you kill them, they won’t die.

    “The future is brown,” we hear. “The future is queer.” “The future is female.” Yet few pretend the future will be good for us.

    The media say we are to eat bugs. Andrew Yang muses about shipping-container apartments. Environmentalists suggest pet ownership must be limited to protect the environment. The media urge whites to stop having children (to save the planet), but also claim we need mass immigration because we aren’t having enough children. They mostly ignore the African population boom, which will render every environmental sacrifice useless.

    In a recent study, 89 percent of British young people said their lives lack purpose or meaning. They’re right. If your ancestors are evil, your existence is a “genetic defect,” and your moral obligation is racial suicide, why shouldn’t you be depressed? Why be alive at all?

    The cure we are prescribed for this disease of the soul is the very thing making us sick. We are told we need to rededicate ourselves to “equality,” something impossible and undesirable. We are told to wage war against “hate,” an emotion. What’s more, those who tell us these things have a vested interest in defining “hate” in broad terms.

    I can’t help but notice the same people who demand we fight an emotion are often the same people who mocked the “war on terrorism,” a tactic.

    Anarcho-tyranny will get worse, but people will still rebel any way they can. Professor Thomas Main wrote recently that the “Alt-Right” is “stronger than ever.” In response, he wants more censorship. He also wants “better civic education and a government that can effectively address the economic and social issues that underlie alt-right support.”

    Progressives think everything can be solved with “education,” but leave that aside. What kind of “civic education?” The New York Times’s 1619 Project tells us that America was defined by slavery. Max Boot at the Washington Post says America is defined by immigration. Thus, the country’s two most powerful newspapers suggest the country is either evil or a meaningless geographic expression. What kind of “civic” identity can emerge from this?

    There’s also no likelihood of “economic and social issues” being resolved. To take one small example, NBC celebrates Miley Cyrus divorcing her husband because “heterosexuality isn’t working.” Forget the sexual orientation angle — study after study confirms that broken families are terrible for children. Yet this is what the media is pushing.

    Just having families and reproducing is almost offensive now, even if it has nothing to do with race. When Hungary implemented pro-natalist policies, a Swedish government official compared it to Nazi Germany. A Washington Post columnist accused Hillbilly Elegy author J.D. Vance of racism, even though he married a non-white woman and has a biracial son. Mr. Vance had said at the recent National Conservatism Conference that America should be concerned that “our people aren’t having enough children to replace themselves.” We can all remember how the media piled on Congressman Steve King when he said, “We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies.”

    Progressives think immigration is a moral necessity and President Trump wants legal immigrants “in the largest numbers ever” even though mass immigration reduces wages, wears out infrastructure, and creates cultural tension. Most American families now need two incomes, something progressives cheer when it’s called “female empowerment.” Is there any chance of a government “addressing” these problems anytime soon? What we’ll probably get instead are new welfare programs, probably targeted at non-whites, funded by a wealth tax falling mostly on whites.

    “Alt-Right” issues aren’t going away. Unfortunately, when it comes to predictive power, the “far-right” has a good track record. Barry Goldwater, no friend to state-mandated segregation, was prescient about the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the creation of an “informer psychology.” “Neighbors spying on neighbors,” he predicted of the law’s effects, “workers spying on workers, businessmen spying on businessmen, where those who would harass their fellow citizens for selfish and narrow purposes will have ample inducement to do so.”

    The critics were right: The 1965 Immigration Act transformed America’s population.

    Within the conservative movement, Peter Brimelow was right about the political consequences of mass immigration, not that National Review will ever apologize.

    (Of course, in the United Kingdom, Enoch Was Right.)

    Conservatism is a racket. It won’t help. There’s work to do both philosophically and practically if our people are to survive.

    Philosophically, something new is emerging. Identitarianism can become not just a political movement, but a way of looking at the world, a system of analysis. In “The Other Side of Modernism,” Sam Francis argued that James Burnham “offered a theoretical framework and a practical application of modernist political ideas” that could be more dangerous to the Left than American conservatism’s pro-capitalist sloganeering and incoherent nostalgia. Unfortunately, Francis died before he could fully complete his mission of uniting Burnham’s analysis of class and society with his own insights on racial and ethnic politics. Leviathan and Its Enemies is the closest thing we have to what would have been Francis’s magnum opus.

    I wouldn’t dare compare myself to Francis, but I’d like to suggest a few premises for Identitarianism as a philosophy.

    First, Marxists are wrong because man is not shaped exclusively by his environment. Man’s biological makeup informs his conduct and identity. This is true of individuals and groups. Man cannot be perfected through “education,” “training,” or “reform.” He is not a blank slate.

    Second, hierarchy is inevitable. “Egalitarianism” itself is a strategy for pursuing power. Politics is defined by the competition to acquire and keep power. History is cyclical and people and civilizations go through broad patterns of Order and Chaos as different elites rise and fall. There’s no “end” to history and nothing is inevitable except competition and change.

    Finally, what drives history is man’s understanding of himself and his relationship to his community, his people. Though I disagree with his conclusion, I think Francis Fukuyama was partially right in The End of History and the Last Man when he spoke about the importance of man’s quest for “recognition.” Yet that “recognition” is best achieved by being part of a people and a social order, not some universal, rationalistic legal framework.

    This is just a starting point and maybe you think I’m wrong. However, I think all of us recognize one thing about our egalitarian opponents: They are insatiable. I mean this literally. There is no society that ever existed or could exist that they would recognize as just. To paraphrase Joe Sobran, there’s no society in which they would be conservative. Nihilism is inherent to their movement.

    You sense this. You’ve resisted the corporate media’s false gospel of self-hatred and neurosis. You know you’re being manipulated and used for the gain of others. You’ve shown mental independence. You know you are something more than an economic input, a data point, a consumer. You see that there’s a meaning to life.

    In some ways, we have it harder than anyone who has come before us. Our battle is psychological, maybe spiritual. The warriors at Thermopylae, at Lepanto, or at Vienna had a sense of themselves. Even if they died, they knew what they were defending.

    We don’t even know who we are. That’s unique in history. That’s why we must begin with philosophy.

    In more practical terms, I offer three suggestions.

    First, if you must vent online, make sure it is truly anonymous, not even pseudo-anonymous.

    Not long ago, the Daily Caller published a piece (significantly, since deleted) arguing that Americans face tyranny worse than what existed in the 1980s Eastern Bloc. After all, in most cases they didn’t shoot you in East Germany for political incorrectness. They would just destroy your career or use selective law enforcement. Here, you get that, plus physical violence, plus unfathomably powerful and unaccountable corporations working against you.

    Unless you want to live the life of a dissident, don’t talk politics on email, social media, or discussion forums, and don’t communicate on apps that don’t auto-delete messages. We aren’t in a free country. What’s needed now are revolutionaries of the mind who are self-disciplined. Certainly, there are things I’ve written that I’ve since changed my mind about, or things I would have expressed differently. Venting can make you feel better but won’t improve our situation. Speak wise words or remain silent.

    Second, young people need to plan their careers now. Pursue something that will make you “anti-fragile.” In the long-term, I am an optimist, but in the short-term, an extreme pessimist. South Africa, with its non-white majority and draconian anti-white employment laws, is a glimpse of our future.

    You must develop skills that will allow you to earn an independent living. RamZPaul is correct that there should be a hard division between activists and those completely “underground,” who go along with what the corporate media demands. Of course, the great irony of “doxing” is that if everyone were doxed at once, we’d win because we’d realize our numbers.

    Ultimately, we need institutions, communities, and businesses of our own. Necessity will force us to create them. If you are in a career where journalists can get you fired, remain silent and fund the activists already out there. There are people all around this country who give 10 percent of their income every month to their church. If we had even one percent of the people in this country who already agreed with our views give at that level, we’d be far stronger, and more people could work openly. A “white tithe” would transform the situation overnight.

    A great number of people are planning or theorizing about the very long term. Everyone should be planning for the medium term — the next five years. What I hope to see are local communities of activists working openly, sustaining themselves and their families.

    Finally, what we are really talking about is surviving for our people. Psychologically, resolve to embrace that struggle.

    We are talking about creating a people. I don’t know if America can be saved. Donald Trump was probably our last chance to preserve the historic American nation, and he is failing.

    We are either the last of a people or the first of a new one. Either way, we don’t have to give in. We have a life that means something. We have something to go towards. If there’s a chance for greatness, glory, or heroism in this world, we’re the ones who will achieve it.

    It’s challenging, but it’s better to be alive now than at a time when you could take everything for granted. Rejoice that you are here at the single most important time in the entire history of our people.

    Nietzsche said the state is the coldest of the cold monsters. The creators who “hang a faith and a love over them” create peoples.

    You can be creators. In your limited time on Earth, you can carry forward that torch which lights the way for our people. It’s an incredible thing to be a part of. That’s our mission. That’s your mission.

    Consider it your white privilege.

    JS: Insatiable indeed. Nothing will satisfy them but a return to the Stone Age as long as it’s not White and Male. As he says or quotes, there is no possible society of the past, present, or future where they would fit in happily as a middle class. Protest has become a lifestyle and way of being.

    My contribution, small though it may be: There is one consolation to their religion: they get to feel superior to Whites who don’t accept their religion, to browbeat them, and hopefully in the future to betray them and/or torment them unto death. That is their message: Death on all levels to everything that is human about us or even to humanity as a whole. Our Message is one of Life at its best, for Whites and for all others who are capable of living so.

    • malthuss October 16, 2019 at 1:26 pm #

      who could get thru such a long post?

      • sprawlcapital October 16, 2019 at 1:56 pm #

        And it’s by Janos, not Finca!

        • Q. Shtik October 16, 2019 at 2:50 pm #

          Surely it’s a copy and paste. Janos doesn’t have the patience to type that much. He couldn’t even be bothered to look up the spelling of ‘Chang Ky Shek.’ Me neither.

          • malthuss October 16, 2019 at 6:26 pm #

            Indeed. Janos is no Finc.

    • Majella October 16, 2019 at 7:22 pm #

      *yawn* (scroll)

      • SoftStarLight October 17, 2019 at 3:17 am #

        HA! And yet you spent two seconds letting everybody know that you at least skimmed it. If you are trying to affect dismissiveness silence would have been better.

        Here’s your real post:

        Gosh Janos, I read everything you post and it compels me so much that I don’t like you. And I’m gonna let you know that all the time because I can’t help myself.

        See that was so much easier!

        • Majella October 17, 2019 at 3:29 am #

          Wrong.

          I didn’t read past the first sentence. I literally yawned and scrolled. I enjoyed taking a minute to express my ‘ underwhelmedness’.

          It’s most of your posts that I don’t bother to respond too anymore. There’s usually nothing actually in your word salad. However, I AM impressed when you tell me what I’m thinking and why I’m thinking it, such as here. Very amusing!

          • Majella October 17, 2019 at 6:16 pm #

            *mwa* you sexy, butch alpha-male altar boy, you!

          • SoftStarLight October 18, 2019 at 2:25 am #

            Respond or don’t its up to you. If everyone here is an RWNJ then really why do you hang around? I mean, if you don’t like right wingers? There is something that makes you come back. Evelyn struggled with that addiction too.

        • Janos Skorenzy October 17, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

          Yes, the opposite of love is not hate, but indifference. She hate/loves me very much.

        • Majella October 18, 2019 at 3:13 am #

          SSL

          I find it morbidly fascinating to observe the RWNJ community in here, on the basis that you lot are at least not the nadir of the RWNJs, such as other outlets like Alex Jones & Faux News YouTube comment boards.

          There is a level of eloquence and thinking among your – some deranged (Janos) some NButterly misguided (Tate, JohnAZ) and utterly simplistic (you, benr).

          Then there’s the intelligent opinions of the like-minded – GA, capt spaulding, little Debbie, K-Dog, Elrond et al, and those I don’t necessarily see eye-to-eye with on every occasion but are stimulating and engaging consistently, such as Volodya, Walter B Kesa Ann to name a few.

          Finca is a case all on his own.

          So, I’m not here to ’play nice’ with you, necessarily, but any discussion board requires a variety of views or it’s just a fecking echo-chamber (like too many other sites – both RWNJs & nutcase Progressive weirdos.

          So get over it. We’re all exercising 1st Amendment rights. I don’t like what you’re saying but defend your right to say it. I’m assuming you extend the same courtesy?

    • capt spaulding October 16, 2019 at 8:31 pm #

      I’m sorry, could you repeat that?

  62. BackRowHeckler October 16, 2019 at 1:59 pm #

    The Guardian has gone Balls to the Wall over Climate Change, viewing everything thru the prism of Warming (similar to what the NYTs is doing with race)

    Here are some of the columns in the past few weeks

    “Climate revolution must be accessible — the fight belongs to disabled people too.”

    “A recession is coming. When it does, we need to demand a New Green Deal.”

    “This must be a climate crisis election.”

    “Its time to rein in the fossil fuel giants before their greed chokes the planet.”

    “What we eat matters: to change the climate, we need to reshape the food system.”

    And so on. There are dozens like it.

    I’m not sure what this is about folks, but it ain’t about the Climate.

    The most logical explanation so far is an as yet unidentified group of people trying to leverage pension funds in the US, Western Europe and Australia, the largest pool of $$$ in the world. Thus, the climate ‘Emergency’.

    Brh

    • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 2:07 pm #

      “The most logical explanation so far is an as yet unidentified group of people trying to leverage pension funds in the US, Western Europe and Australia, the largest pool of $$$ in the world. Thus, the climate ‘Emergency’.”

      Well done, brh. When’s your book coming out? I’d like a signed copy. With your photo on the back.

      • BackRowHeckler October 16, 2019 at 2:17 pm #

        A signed photo of this Handsome Devil?

        • GreenAlba October 16, 2019 at 2:29 pm #

          Well you could sign the photo on the back of the book. I could keep it and see if it was worth something as a collector’s First Edition, in the fullness of time. We’re going to be bartering all sorts.