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One amusing angle on the news media broadside about Russia “hacking” the US election is the failure to mention — or even imagine! — that the US incessantly and continually runs propaganda psy-ops against every other country in the world. And I’m not even including the venerable, old, out-in-the-open propaganda organs like Voice of America and Radio Free Europe (reminder: the Iron Curtain came down a quarter century ago). Do you suppose that nobody at Langley, or the Pentagon, or the NSA’s sprawling 1.5 million square foot Utah Data Center is laboring night and day to sow confusion among other societies to push our various agendas?

The main offensive started with The Washington Post’s publication on Nov 26 of “The List,” a story calling out dozens of blogs and web news-sites as purveyors of “fake news” fronting for Russian disinformation forces. The list included Zero Hedge, Naked Capitalism, and David Stockman’s blog. There were several whack-job sites mixed in the list for seasoning — The Daily Stormer (Nazis), Endtime.com (Evangelical apocalyptic), GalacticConnection (UFO shit). The rest range between tabloid-silly and genuine, valuable news commentary. What else would you expect in a society with an Internet AND a completely incoherent consensus about reality?

Pretty obviously, the struggle between mainstream news and Web news climaxed over the election, with the mainstream overwhelmingly pimping for Hillary, and then having a nervous breakdown when she lost. Desperate to explain the loss, the two leading old-line newspapers, The New York Times and The Washington Post, ran with the Russia-Hacks-Election story — because only Satanic intervention could explain the fall of Ms. It’s-My-Turn / I’m-With-Her. Thus, the story went, Russia hacked the Democratic National Committee (DNC), gave the hacked emails to Wikileaks, and sabotaged not only Hillary herself but the livelihoods of every myrmidon in the American Deep State termite mound, an unforgivable act.

Also interestingly, these newspapers and their handmaidens on TV, were far less concerned as to whether the leaked information was true or not — e.g. the Clinton Foundation donors’ influence-peddling around arms deals made in the State Department; the DNC’s campaign to undermine Bernie Sanders in the primaries; DNC temporary chair (and CNN employee) Donna Brazille conveying debate questions to HRC; the content of HRC’s quarter-million-dollar speeches to Wall Street banks. All of that turned out to be true, of course.

Then, a few weeks after the election, the US House of Representatives passed H.R. 6393, the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2017. Blogger Ronald Thomas West reports:

Section 501 calls for the government to “counter active measures by Russia to exert covert influence … carried out in coordination with, or at the behest of, political leaders or the security services of the Russian Federation and the role of the Russian Federation has been hidden or not acknowledged publicly.”

The measure has not been passed by the Senate or signed into law yet, and the holiday recess may prevent that. But it is easy to see how it would empower the Deep State to shut down whichever websites they happened to not like. My reference to the Deep State might even imply to some readers that I’m infected by the paranoia virus. But I’m simply talking about the massive “security” and surveillance matrix that has unquestionably expanded since the 9/11 airplane attacks, creating a gigantic NSA superstructure above and beyond the Central Intelligence Agency, the Department of Defense’s DIA, and the hoary old FBI.

A little paranoia about the growing fascist behavior of the US government is a useful corrective to trends that citizens ought to be concerned about — for instance, the militarization of police; the outrageous “civil forfeiture” scam that allows police to steal citizens cash and property without any due process of law; the preferential application of law as seen in the handling of the Clinton Foundation activities and the misconduct of banking executives; the attempt to impose a “cashless society” that would herd all citizens into a financial surveillance hub and eliminate their economic liberty.

These matters are especially crucial as the nation stumbles into the next financial crisis and the Deep State becomes desperate to harvest every nickel it can to rescue itself plus the cast of “systemically important” (Too-Big-To-Fail) banks and related institutions like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which are about to once again be left holding colossal bags of worthless non-performing mortgages, not to mention the pension funds and insurance companies that will also founder in the Great Unwind that is likely to commence as Trump hangs his golden logo over the White House portico.

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647 Responses to “The Deepening Deep State”

  1. Cold N. Holefield December 5, 2016 at 9:56 am #

    It’s certainly is Deep, Jim. That’s for sure, and getting deeper, as you say.

    You know, I have to laugh at the irony. Many of the Alt Right Breitbart Fascist Creeps who haunt so many Comment Sections at various blogs were terrified Hillary Clinton would start WWIII with Russia. They used this as one of many justifications to vote for Trump instead.

    FYI, I’m not advocating for Hillary — my blog clearly delineates my thoughts & feelings on the matter so there is no dispute.

    The irony is, their choice for POTUS, DJT, may start WWIII, the War To End All Wars, not with Russia but instead with China over this coalescing kerfuffle related to Taiwan. I was watching MSNBC this morning and I was flabbergasted to see the majority of the panel justifying and rationalizing and normalizing this Nutjob’s latest Buffoonery towards China. He is completely incapable of understanding cultural nuance.

    It is crucial for Orientals to preserve an Honorable Face to The World, and Trump is directly assaulting that cultural phenomenon. It’s so important to them culturally, they will take extreme measures to Save Face. Sure, you can try to rationalize it by saying that Trump is getting tough with the Chinese, but then you are also rationalizing Hillary’s stance of getting tough with the Russians. At least have some consistency.

    The Art Of The Deal

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    • Cold N. Holefield December 5, 2016 at 9:58 am #

      Here are a couple more rants for posterity. Trump seems to bring out the best in me. He has The Magick Touch.

      Midnight In America

      Magical Mystery Tour

    • thwack December 5, 2016 at 10:42 am #

      “It is crucial for Orientals to preserve an Honorable Face to The World, and Trump is directly assaulting that cultural phenomenon.”

      First of all, it is incorrect to refer to Asians as “orientals”; thats like me referring to hot white women as a “fireCRACKERS”

      you must be an old white person?

      We put an internet troll in the white house so yeah its funny to watch him “trigger” other nations; but the Chinese are not a good choice to piss off with pranks and unnecessary insults.

      Thats like dining at an expensive restaurant and ridiculing your waiter.

      • Cold N. Holefield December 5, 2016 at 10:50 am #

        Shut the fuck up. I’m distinguishing Orientals from other Asians such as Indians and Pakistanis without being accused of being Racist. The Japanese share this cultural trait as well.

        Your comment reveals you to be the hypocrite I always figured you to be and a provocateur. Go grab a pussy rather than labeling half the planet as Asians with no further distinction. Fascists love to lump people together under one heading and scapegoat them and genocide them utilizing that rubric.

        • j0nx December 6, 2016 at 11:53 am #

          He’s right Cold. Referring to an Asian as ‘Oriental’ is akin to referring to a black person as ‘colored’. While not a total punch you in the face slur, it is still unacceptably politically incorrect to do nowadays. You must be an old white guy just as he said.

      • Cold N. Holefield December 5, 2016 at 11:38 am #

        For those interested, and that list does NOT include the Fascist Hypocritical Breibart Alt Right Creeps like elysianfields & thwack (Janos).



      • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 1:46 pm #

        Incorrect? According to who? The MSM? Politically Correct school of Government? Departments of Cultural Marxism called Sociology, Psychology, Political Science? None of those have any credibility any more. Guess you didn’t get the memo. And 1950’s White run America was a far better place than America is today – even for minorities O Thwack!

        • Majella December 5, 2016 at 5:38 pm #

          Dang! there is it – there’s no such thing as ‘FACTS’ anymore – just polarised opinions.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 9:25 pm #

            Trust your senses and your commonsense – which isn’t common – not the paid liars and whores of the Yellow Urine Stream Media.

            Get a Tarot Deck and learn to use it. It’s said that a man so equipped can know the whole world without leaving his room. Or the I Ching since today is China Day here.

    • Timo December 5, 2016 at 10:50 am #

      As a lifelong Dem like James, it took me a long time to come to terms with the sad fact that it was our sainted and SO BRIGHT Jimmah (bro of Billah Bee-yah, both the progeny of the Divine Miss Lillian) who signed off on the deal done by the Tricky Dicky with Mao to gift him our industrial base (created and subsidized from WWII on by US taxpayers).

      Having swallowed all that, I went on to vote for the Emperor Bubba – TWICE! – and I swallowed him just as well as his chubby little Pugnican molelette ‘intern’ did while wearing a blue dress in the anteroom to the Oval Office. The man is – without argument – a real genius, as well as an Olympian Pussy-Grabber.

      His wife? Something else, entirely – certainly NOT a political genius.

      I am older and less wise now, and take insults to what is left of my little grey cells (our new Cheeto Head potty mouth potus is only the latest assault) with a whole bag of Epsom salts – but you’re really pushing it, Holefield!

    • shotho December 5, 2016 at 10:56 am #

      No people in the world is more interested in “saving face” than the Americans. Our hubris has no limits, but I suspect that the Chinese are not particularly interested in feeding it.

      • routersurfer December 5, 2016 at 11:35 am #

        Well said.

      • Cold N. Holefield December 5, 2016 at 11:42 am #

        If that’s so, Americans sure have a funny way of showing it. Donald Trump, anyone? How the FUCK is that Saving Face? Since when is Neon Orange DayGlo a Face-Saving gesture? I think you’re wrong. It’s just as easy to assert, and it’s more plausible & accurate, that Americans don’t give a shit about Face. Honor & Dignity mean nothing to Americans. Why else would JHK write a blog post about Rediscovering Men? Because Face simply doesn’t matter to Americans any more, if it ever did.

      • Timo December 5, 2016 at 1:57 pm #

        You’re right – they don’t care about barbarian face-saving, because they know that all we shoppers want is the best ‘deal’, even it kills our own kids one way or another.

        Though they’ve done a pretty good job of that themselves by poisoning their land,water and air, just as we have done, and for the same reason – out of greed.

      • Timo December 5, 2016 at 2:20 pm #

        You got that right!

    • elysianfield December 5, 2016 at 11:21 am #

      “It is crucial for Orientals to preserve an Honorable Face to The World”

      Yeah, I heard of that…also that the Orientals have buck teeth and cannot see well enough to fly aircraft, and that they are inscrutable, and cannot pronounce the letter “R”…so solly.

      Trump getting tough with the Chinese? Just a message.

      The Art of the Deal.

      • Elrond Hubbard December 5, 2016 at 12:39 pm #

        “Orient” means “east”. Edward W. Said wrote in depth about the deeply embedded strain in Western thought that depicts cultures east of Suez as mysteriously “other”: “undeveloped, irrational, and inflexible” in contrast to Western society which is “developed, rational, flexible, and thereby superior.” The name for this kind of stereotyping is Orientalism.

        The notion that each culture has a unique and inspired essence that renders it somehow unknowable or incommensurable with others is a precursor to all kinds of prejudice, bigotry and imperialism. Donald J. Trump is just as obsessed with “face” as any potentate of mystical Cathay; just read his Twitter feed.

        • thwack December 5, 2016 at 1:29 pm #

          “Orient” means “east”.

          Yes indeed EH; but the reason WHY it means East is because of Islam.

          As part of their religion, Muslims always needed to know which way was East; therefore when a person told you to “Orient yourself”, they were telling you to figure out where you are by figuring out which way is East.

          Corn-in-Hole-Feel is obviously disoriented because he thinks people are “Oriental.”

          • Cold N. Holefield December 5, 2016 at 2:09 pm #

            Hey thwack, you douchebag, you don’t have a right to be offended for Eddie Huang. In fact, I don’t even consider Eddie Oriental but I respect his right to refer to himself as such. He’s American. Not you, though, you’re not American. You’re a Troll.

            Eddie Huang Tells Bill Maher That ‘Oriental’ Is Not Racist

          • Frankiti December 5, 2016 at 5:08 pm #

            Occident -setting sun
            Orient – rising sun.

            True then as it is now.

            The sun is indeed setting on the west.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 1:50 pm #

          And they have their own gut level views of us as well. We have the right to our own perceptions. We certainly don’t have to justify or abandon them because nameless, faceless censors like you don’t like them (or us) or because foreign intellectuals are upset.

          I remind you that Islam divides the World into two: the House of Islam and the House of War, or that which is to be conquered. Why don’t you have a problem with that, genius?

          • Elrond Hubbard December 5, 2016 at 2:28 pm #

            Janos: “Why don’t you have a problem with that, genius?”

            Who says I don’t? It’s the very same philosophy that you yourself subscribe to, Janos: us good, them bad, except in your case “us” is based on skin colour instead of faith. Except most actual Muslims aren’t flaming bigots like you are. As for the ones who are, a plague on both your houses.

            Janos: “We have the right to our own perceptions. We certainly don’t have to justify or abandon them because nameless, faceless censors like you don’t like them (or us) or because foreign intellectuals are upset.”

            “Nameless”? Click the link at the top of this message to view my real-name blog.

            “Faceless”? My WordPress avatar is a cartoon, but it’s actually a good likeness.

            “Censor”? Who’s censoring anyone? I’m meeting speech with speech, which is the opposite of censorship. It’s freedom operating exactly the way it’s meant to.

            As for your perceptions, you don’t have to abandon them or justify them, as if I could make you. But I’ll judge you if I damn well feel like it. That’s also freedom, operating the way it’s meant to.

          • Majella December 5, 2016 at 5:46 pm #

            Well said, Elrond.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 7:02 pm #

            Who says? Your brethren in Europe are turning the continent over to Islam. You all see them as allies against us, obviously. Ditto Canada and the US – just more variety of minorities.

            And you believe in free speech? Like hell you do. You people love to throw people out of jobs and off sites.

      • Timo December 5, 2016 at 2:18 pm #

        It is an insult to the ancient culture, ethos, and traditions of China not to try to understand and respect the significance that the Chinese place on family and ‘face’.

        You obviously think that you are progressive (and non-‘racist’) because you think that all human beings are ‘the same’ as you in their hearts and their minds, and think as you do. Because you want them to continue to work for you, on the cheap – as you would never do.

        You could not be more wrong, (and more truly racist) or insulting in your (whitish) globalist assumptions, about the other 95% of the world’s population – whose civilizations, genius, and productivity were suppressed by nothing but Western gunpowder for three centuries.

        Or are you a changeling?

        • elysianfield December 5, 2016 at 6:40 pm #


          “Face” is part of the Western caricature of the Oriental…they do not place “Face” or loss of it any higher than any other group. Too much Charlie Chan/Buddha sez/and movie memes in your perception. If you are calling me a racist, be prepared to define the term and defend your answer.

          Content of Character is the only arbiter I will accept as a rational approach to humanity. Do I think all human beings are the same? Of course not…not physically, mentally or emotionally.

          Where is it an insult to lampoon a loose caricature?

          Stand and deliver….

          • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 7:06 pm #

            You are a White racist if you think all groups are the same. And you are a White racist if you thing all groups are different. The Gospel according to Timo.

            What’s the common denominator? Being White, since the two statements cancel out. Thus we can interpret this passage to mean that being White is to be a racist. And being a racist is the worst thing in the world….

    • Ishabaka December 6, 2016 at 8:25 am #

      “the Alt Right Breitbart Fascist Creeps” – kind of summarizes the whole 2016 election for me. A whole lot of first grade level name calling and taunting, a whole little adult discussion of substantive issues. Nope, it was:

      Left – “You’re a bunch of deplorable Alt Right Breitbart Fascist Creeps!”

      Right “I know you are, but what am I?! Nyah nyah ny nyah nyah! Hitlery the “B” word, etc. etc. etc.!”

      If we really are facing a “Long emergency” consideration might be given to actually growing up.

    • routersurfer December 9, 2016 at 5:03 pm #

      I will put all my money on Russia joining on the side of China if President Trump hands us war. War, a great tool of failed Statecraft.

    • lsjogren December 11, 2016 at 1:00 am #

      I think you’ve been snorting too much establishment propaganda. Lighten up, it’s not good for your health.

  2. FincaInTheMountains December 5, 2016 at 10:05 am #

    For a complete happiness of his critics, Trump organized by the end of the week a serious diplomatic incident, agreeing to a telephone conversation with the President of Taiwan. The fact that from the point of view of the Chinese leadership, Taiwan – is an unrecognized state and, in general, the Americans agreed with the Chinese principle of “One China” back in the 70’s in order to establish a better relationship with Mainland China. US does not officially recognize Taiwan, Taiwan does not have an American Embassy (its functions are performed by a private organization) and in general – Trump is the first US president since 1979, who held official telephone conversations with Taiwanese leader.

    This week we have a guaranteed fireworks of angry statements of Chinese diplomats, the media and politicians, who (justifiably so) will accept this gesture as a departure from the former relationship with China.

    Trump reasonably says that there is no point in making so much fuss from the conversation with the leader of Taiwan if the US sells weapons to Taiwan worth billions of dollars.

    It should be noted that for Trump serious conflict with China – is the inevitable consequence of his economic program, so that the “pottery smashing” can (and perhaps should) better occur now.

    • Cold N. Holefield December 5, 2016 at 10:13 am #

      Putin would like nothing more than to see America & China go to war and his Orange DayGlo Quisling Boody Boy Trump is just the Pussy-Grabbing Beyotch to make it happen.

      • SteveO December 5, 2016 at 10:21 am #

        The Russians are going to come out on top of the coming crash by virtue of the fact that they have already come through their crash and they still have large reserves of fossil fuels as well as a nuclear power program.

        I’ll bet Putin never thought there would be a chance he could wake up one morning and find himself leading the world’s only “superpower”. He must be a really happy little autocrat.

        • Timo December 5, 2016 at 11:08 am #

          A very good (and very nasty, but no more so than our own) poker player – with an undemanding and shrunken population to support thanks to alcoholism and poor health care – who is not importing the caliphate’s sick, incestuous, unproductive and sexually concupiscient diaspora that IT won’t take as it crashes and burns (but that Mutti and Uncle Sham consider to be a great treasure, somehow – ‘temporarily’).

          • SteveO December 5, 2016 at 12:25 pm #

            If you will forgive the stereotype, I always considered Putin to more of a chess player. His game does not appear to me to one of bluffing like poker. More like setting strategic traps and letting his opponents fall into them.

            His history shows brilliant use of the power available to him and I always got the impression he thinks 4 or 5 moves ahead.

          • thwack December 5, 2016 at 1:45 pm #

            If I was a betting man my money would be on the Russians because they are closer to the original white people who stayed in the vicinity white people originated.

            Thats why Russians are more strongular than regular white people; they have been around a long time and tested for strength and mental toughness…

            Even my best scary black man sh*t don’t work on them.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 1:53 pm #

            And you believe Whites were created by the evil Black Scientist Yakgub, right?

          • thwack December 5, 2016 at 9:42 pm #

            “And you believe Whites were created by the evil Black Scientist Yakgub, right?”



            I don’t know about the “evil” or the “scientist” part; but if you admit black people were the first people on the planet, then you gotta accept we at least produced you guys, if not created you?

            So Farrahcoon is correct in a apocryphal kinda way.

            Some people say Yaqub only created the evil white people and once he got to around 7 or 8 of them they hung him from a tree.

            Evil is as evil does.

          • windward December 6, 2016 at 9:20 pm #

            I have added “more strongular” to my list of unexpected pleasures.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 7, 2016 at 1:42 pm #

            Blacks were the first people? You mean Lucy the Australopithecus, basically a long legged chimp, was a Negro? Ok there, fella!

          • thwack December 7, 2016 at 6:25 pm #

            Listen Casper,

            I think most of the “apeman” fossils are either apes or their ancestors. You must remember that these archeologists are under pressure to make “great discoveries” in order to maintain their funding, sell books, pad their resumes…

            They are known to build entire fake skeletons from a single tooth; add on plaster hands, feet other bones where none were found; and even change and fake radio carbon dating to make it fit their narrative.

            Piltdown man

            Nebraska man

            Java man

            The Milk Man

            The Corn Bread Man…

            What makes you think “Lucy” is any different?

            Don’t feel shame that you got fooled; I got fooled too. I just assumed it was true because white people believed it. Then when the internet came along I found out some white people were calling them on their bullshit.

            Granted some of them were “Creationists”; but they were also plain ordinary white people too just like the ones gluing together these fictitious creatures and placing them in museums for your children to look at?

            The questions they raised were like the thread that unravels the entire sweater.

            White people may be able to fool black people; but they can’t fool all of the white people, because like the rappers say: “game recognize game.”

            When it comes to human origins, the fossil record is unreliable and incomplete.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 7, 2016 at 9:50 pm #

            And you know also then that the Ancient Egyptians weren’t Negroes, right?

            How do we account for the low IQ of Black Africa (70 and below)? Perhaps the original sin was Modern Humans mating with the earlier species of Man, Homo Erectus, which still inhabited the Continent of Africa and other tropical areas. Same thing might have happened in Australia – they’ve even dumber than Negroes.

          • thwack December 8, 2016 at 11:02 am #

            “And you know also then that the Ancient Egyptians weren’t Negroes, right?”


            The only way to determine if a person is white is to ask them: “when the white people decide to start hanging ______s, are you gonna get hung?”

            Another way is the “Janos’ daughter test”; if his daughter brings you home to meet him, does he pick up a rope? or a glass of champagne?

            “How do we account for the low IQ of Black Africa (70 and below)?

            Hey Janos,

            wake me up when you get to the part that justifies mistreating people on the basis of “low IQ”; then you can start hanging white children, senile citizens, polar bears and other whites who score below 70 on the IQ test.

            *charity starts at home*


          • Janos Skorenzy December 9, 2016 at 3:52 pm #

            I’m impressed that you know that Blacks have a low IQ on average, making them a lower race. Louis Farakahan knows it too, apparently. You are superior members of an inferior race.

            No one is talking about hurting anyone, but these facts have consequences, like the need for separation. Our retards are our problem. Yours are yours. How about a Black State from Central Georgia to New Orleans? A generous swath of the deep South for your people? As a smarty, you could be a very big Man in the New State. White Nationalists can cooperate with Black Nationalists since we speak the same language.

        • malthuss December 5, 2016 at 11:45 am #

          Russia is too small to fail.
          Or the X USSR was too small to fail?

      • FincaInTheMountains December 5, 2016 at 10:31 am #

        Cold, Chinese in their wildest dreams will not attack the US. All their military ambitions are in protecting their territorial interests. China is a great manufacturing power, but military power they are not.

        • Cold N. Holefield December 5, 2016 at 10:43 am #

          The Taiwan Relations Act obligates America to intervene if China attacks Taiwan. You underestimate how important Taiwan is to China, especially related to the cultural peculiarity I mentioned that should not be overlooked.

          Trump, in his Youth, liked to throw rocks at toddlers in their playpens. He still does, it’s just taken another form. Considering his reckless behavior, he’s going to throw a rock at what he thinks is a toddler in a playpen, but it’s going to turn out to be a Mother Dragon or a Mother Bear.

          The Trump Presidency, unless it’s miraculously prevented, will be akin to playing Russian Roulette with the Fate of Humanity. One Shot. That’s all it takes.

          • shotho December 5, 2016 at 11:00 am #

            Well, you seem to have the next four years all figured out and it seems they will be very long for you, to be sure.

        • thwack December 5, 2016 at 10:48 am #

          China is a great vagina power; there are over a billion of them in the world and more are on the way.

          This morning I saw a Chinese man driving a school bus.

          Not all power comes thru the barrel of a gun.

        • SteveO December 5, 2016 at 10:58 am #

          Let me add that the Chinese don’t have to militarily attack the US. They have far more effective options that don’t involve mushroom clouds. All they have to is keep the container ships in port for a month and the US economy will collapse.

          • routersurfer December 5, 2016 at 11:39 am #

            Better still dump T-Bills and stocks.

          • Elrond Hubbard December 5, 2016 at 12:54 pm #

            SteveO: “All they have to is keep the container ships in port for a month”.

            Which they can’t afford to do either, but they can still win in the end if they remain focused on real development while the U.S. continues to squander its strength in pointless wars in the Middle East.

            I would pay attention to Col. Wilkerson’s assessment of China’s prospects, which he expressed here:


          • Timo December 5, 2016 at 4:10 pm #

            You could not be more correct, but that is going to happen anyway – and not because the mandarins want it to.

        • Timo December 5, 2016 at 11:13 am #

          They have never cared to wander far from their own backyard/beach property – they are an ancient people, and wise in the way of ancient peoples (crazy though they be in their own ways) who cannot be bought by George Sorrows.

          • routersurfer December 5, 2016 at 11:44 am #

            Take a long hard look at the moves China has made in Africa and even South America. All techno industrial states need raw materials. Look to Australia to see China moving as a Colonial power would. They learned from the mistake of thinking of themselves as an island. BTW, try and get a straight fact on our current kill ratio in a war with China. Good luck with that quest.

        • routersurfer December 9, 2016 at 5:08 pm #

          Like we had a vast well trained army and navy on December 6, 1941. We did have manufacturing. Only Not having a land war on USA soil since WW II has kept us a Super Power. That may change.

      • abbybwood December 6, 2016 at 5:02 am #

        There won’t be any “war” with China if Jon Huntsman becomes Secretary of State:


        • routersurfer December 9, 2016 at 5:10 pm #

          Sure thing. He can control President Trump.

    • Timo December 5, 2016 at 4:02 pm #

      They really don’t give a shit, they’re just going through the diplomatic motions.

      They know that we’re a spent force, our corporate and government masters having sold them everything we had that was worth having – for a song – and they’ve bought the rest of it with our own money.

      They have their own muzzie problems (going back 1,400 years), and the last thing they want is to move into the North American caliphate that Bush/Obama have established.

      Their somewhat rich people are smuggling money (via their restaurant owner cousins) out of the PCR at present to preserve their wealth, but they are NOT interested in deserting their homeland (however poisoned) and their families/culture to live forever with barbarians in cold climes – only their bottom feeders do that.

      Check out their ‘imperial’ history – unlike Westerners, their elites have never wandered far from home except to make money and take it home. They never will, as they (like the Japanese) are ‘racists’ in the truest sense of the word – unlike us, they know that there’s no place like home, no matter how hellish it is.

      • routersurfer December 9, 2016 at 5:12 pm #

        So we become a Chinese farm?

  3. PeteAtomic December 5, 2016 at 10:06 am #

    The so-called ‘mainstream’ a.k.a. “entertainment” news media is the main purveyor of all types of tabloid/yellow journalism or simple outright nonsense. CNN in particular post-HRC collapse is almost howling. CNN & MSNBC are busy dismissing Trump as wrong with the same arguments that people tell their toddlers: “cuz I said so!” or “He’s just wrong.”
    Well, it isn’t journalism folks. You don’t tell people somebody is wrong ‘just cuz’. It doesn’t fly.

    • messianicdruid December 5, 2016 at 11:10 am #

      “ The List ” available @ http://www.washingtoncom.post

    • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 1:57 pm #

      Yes, the whole MSM is propagating fake news 24/7. Meanwhile Info-Wars and Drudge are becoming the new mainstream while The Daily Stormer is where Jones was 15 years ago.

      Only tired old fogeys take the official Media (Pravda) seriously.

      • Majella December 5, 2016 at 6:10 pm #

        ” Info-Wars and Drudge are becoming the new mainstream”

        Holy shit! Are you fucking kidding??? There’s never been such blatant bullshitting than you can get from Alex Jones or Matt Drudge.

        Recently – a couple of weeks before the election – I saw a ‘dialogue’ between Jones and the ultimate professional liar, that slime-ball Roger Stone. Stone was adamant that Hillary was going to be dumped, and Michelle Obama put in as Dem nominee – “yes, next week! It’s a lock!”. To which Jones replied “You heard it here first, folks!”. Problem was they would not have heard it anywhere else, and of course would not ‘fact check’ it…Jones being an oracle of conservative ‘truth’.

        The week before that, according to Jones, Obama was on the brink of declaring martial law and suspending/cancelling the election.(Mind you, I think that trope has been around for a while now, and has been recycled as necessary.)

        This utter tripe then becomes the ‘talking points’ in bars and living rooms of the deep Red State strongholds. These people BELIEVE these things, and don’t seem to worry that they turn out not to be true – the Lib’rals couldn’t pull it off ‘coz Almighty Alex caught them out!’.

        There is no chance that these demented, deluded citizens will ever believe any actual ‘facts’. God Help the USA…and the rest of the planet – God save us from Fuck-face von Clownstick.

        • PeteAtomic December 5, 2016 at 7:01 pm #

          You need to take Jones with caution like everybody else out there. See my post to Janos below about that.

          I do applaud Jones however for his infiltration of Bohemian Grove, his anti-globalist stance, and his covering of super powerful elite groups out there who hadn’t been on the radar before and remain generally unreported on by the MSM.

          I find those aspects about Jones very brave.

          • Majella December 5, 2016 at 8:06 pm #

            “super-powerful elite groups” – do you mean the Illuminati? That particular conspiracy story is just BS.

            No doubt there are super-powerful elites, but they’re right out in the open – Kochs, Paul Singer, Soros, unnamed hedge fund operatives for whom ‘everything’ is still ‘not enough’.

          • Elrond Hubbard December 6, 2016 at 2:56 pm #

            PeteAtomic: “You need to take Jones with caution”.

            I pay little heed to Alex Jones, but from what I know, it sounds like what he’s best taken with is antipsychotics.

          • thwack December 7, 2016 at 9:52 am #

            Alex Jones was one of the first persons on the web to understand and use the journalistic marketing technique of “rage farming” to find and keep readers and boost traffic at his site.

            Its been an industry “secret” for years; but now that “everyone” is engaged in the practice, we are being warned about “fake news…”

            Well guess what?

            Its all fake because news is something people don’t want you to know; everything else is advertising.

            Anytime someone is shouting at you, you can be sure what they are saying is NOT news.

      • PeteAtomic December 5, 2016 at 6:54 pm #

        People need to think critically about what they read, regardless if it is CNN, Kunstler.com, or Alex Jones.

        It’s also helpful to read completely different points of view, and keep an open mind.

        God gave you a brain. Use it. Or as my grandpa loved to say, “Don’t believe anything you read and only half of what you see.” Good advice.

        • PeteAtomic December 5, 2016 at 8:42 pm #

          Majella– I wasn’t referring to the ‘illuminati’, no. I think that’s probably fantasy.

          His coverage of the Bilderbergers and what their meeting agendas are, is a Good. They need to be reported on. If Jones does it, so be it.

          And I agree about the others out in the open. They need to be reported on as well. Absolutely.

  4. PeteAtomic December 5, 2016 at 10:12 am #

    post #2

    On Deep state: whether it is Tsarist Russia 1905, or 1980s Argentina or Chile– a nation which engages in the type of police state which the US federals have constructed is generally a sign of big time societal instability.

    You combine the surveillance state with the current criminal ‘justice’ regime & a culture obsessed with diversity & tolerance– and it shows a country in deep trouble on a cultural level.

    thanks Mr. Jim

  5. FincaInTheMountains December 5, 2016 at 10:18 am #

    Trump just looking at things realistically. Implementation of his economic program in any case, suggests that he’ll inevitably piss off a wide range of forces, from the GOP and ending with the Communist Government of China, so for Trump does not make sense to build the image of a “good guy.”

    For us, Russkis, it is very beneficial the expansion of the list of Trump conflicts. The more “problems” will be on his agenda, the more he will be tempted to quietly negotiate with Putin on Syria and Ukraine.

  6. Greg Knepp December 5, 2016 at 10:26 am #

    The re-kindling of the Cold War mentality is a not-so-clever attempt to externalize our internal dysfunction.

    In 1956 Carl Jung asks:
    “Today, as the end of the second millennium draws near, we are again living in an age filled with apocalyptic images of universal destruction. What is the significance of that split, symbolized by the ‘Iron Curtain’ which divides humanity into two halves? What will become of our civilization, and of man himself, if the hydrogen bombs begin to go off, or if the spiritual and moral darkness of State Absolutism should spread…?”

    C. G. Jung ‘Civilization in Transition’ pg 247

    • routersurfer December 5, 2016 at 11:47 am #

      Nice quote. Been a Jung fan since the 1970’s. Started with The Portable Jung.

      • Greg Knepp December 5, 2016 at 12:21 pm #

        Jung is in a category of his own – truly amazing!

  7. SteveO December 5, 2016 at 10:29 am #

    2016, the gift that keep on giving. Now, in addition to being able to declare any person a terrorist and imprison them without habeas corpus (Patriot act section 412), Trump will be able to shut down any website that pisses him off.

    Stalin and Castro are laughing at us from whatever corner of hell they roasting in.

    • FincaInTheMountains December 5, 2016 at 10:34 am #

      And where, in your opinion, are Truman and McCarthy?

      • SteveO December 5, 2016 at 10:54 am #

        In a different corner, one’s nodding in approval, the other is mad as hell. You can decide which is which.

      • Cold N. Holefield December 5, 2016 at 10:54 am #

        Feeding worms six feet under?

  8. sprawlcapital December 5, 2016 at 10:35 am #

    Thank you, Jim, for acknowledging the validity of “a little paranoia”, and for the bill of particulars in that paragraph that could support such a mental state.

    Conspiracy theories can spiral down into delusion, that is true; but not all of us who harbor grave suspicion of the powers that want to run our lives are wack-jobs. As you demonstrate with today’s blog.

    • messianicdruid December 5, 2016 at 11:19 am #

      I wrote a letter to the editor dealing with a few of the media’s screw ups and they quoted Confucius at me in response, “Suspicious minds see evil every where.”

      My next thought was, “when you have been lied to for thirty years you get that way.” Par in old I ain’t.

    • routersurfer December 5, 2016 at 11:49 am #

      They are out to get us.

      • janet December 5, 2016 at 12:38 pm #

        Not us. They want the money. They are out to get pensions, social security, medicare, TriCare, and all the other entitlement programs.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 2:01 pm #

      An inability to believe in Conspiracies and see Evil are symptoms of Liberalism. But if you try to warn such blind people, then you become the Enemy and the embodiment of all Evil. Why? Because you are upsetting their “trip” and make no mistake, the Liberal takes his warm fuzzy very, very seriously.

      • Greg Knepp December 6, 2016 at 9:34 am #

        Janos, you capitalize ‘conspiracies’ and ‘evil’ as though these are formal, almost holy entities. I think you’re giving mankind too much credit. Humans form mini-tribes within larger tribes (often within mega-tribes which we call civilizations) in order to further the common interests of their members and perhaps of their bedfellow groups. Your morose grandiosity is, I believe, misplaced. This is all just humans – ‘the rapacious primates’ – doing their human thing…No big deal.

        I don’t remember who coined the term ‘rapacious primate’ but I’d like to give credit. Anybody out there know?

        • bibliomaniac December 7, 2016 at 9:32 pm #

          Greg–I don’t know who coined the term ‘rapacious primate’,but the anthropologist Pat Shipman notes that Homo sapiens are the most destructive “invasive species” to ever exist, in the 2015 book, “The Invaders”. I agree.

          • Greg Knepp December 8, 2016 at 1:55 pm #

            Thanks, Bib, I’m going to look that up.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 9, 2016 at 3:55 pm #

          And there’s no reason not to believe such conspiracies can’t grow to enormous size, threatening the State itself. If people don’t believe in them or minimize them like you are doing, why shouldn’t the Illuminati exist? Whose going to stop them? Why won’t Goldman Sachs conquer the World, the tip of the Spear of the Judeo-Masonic Elite? And yes, Mexican Drug Gangs might conquer Mexico.

  9. Walter B December 5, 2016 at 10:39 am #

    Superb James, great job of calling out those who work the strings above the dancing puppets! Those of us that are old enough to remember that the Bay of Pigs was an act perpetrated by Allen Dulles and his coven of CIA spooks and NOT John Kennedy are well aware of who really calls the shots, literally. Unfortunately for the over-entertained, severely disinterested Common American Idiot, the real Masters have lulled them all into a consummation oblivion lest they see the evil, ugly truth of Murder For Profit Incorporated. Of course American’ts believe in the KGB aright, but when you ask any of them what they think the CIA or NSA actually does for a living, well I at least am used to getting blank looks and no answers. Unfortunately for the Common American Idiot their refusal to acknowledge the deceit, lies, and murder that keeps the American Party afloat will actually be the reason that judgment will fall so heavily upon our necks, whenever karma gets around to settling up the score, that is.

    In their defense we should acknowledge the fact that the old hippies (the new sellouts) who have now taken hold of the reigns of power are all too understanding of what it takes to buck a tyrannical government and have implemented indoctrination to prevent the awakening of the youth and distraction/entertainment to keep the fools stupefied and out of touch with reality. You sir remain a voice crying out in the wilderness and the service you hereby provide not only helps to perhaps awaken a few, but more importantly IMHO, remind us all that we are not alone. There are at least a few others that know and that is very heartening indeed, thank you.

    • routersurfer December 5, 2016 at 11:52 am #

      What old hippies are in power? Nice post but you let me on that hippies thing. Who wants power but the unstable?

    • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 2:04 pm #

      Yes, did you Bernie’s face as he voted to nominate Hillary? But he did anyway – and got a book deal and a lake house. He has a future in politics. And no little bird will ever alight on his podium ever again.

    • Timo December 5, 2016 at 5:41 pm #

      Not to mention helping to keep more than a few of us old timers relatively sane – many thanks, James!

  10. fodase December 5, 2016 at 10:55 am #

    The irony is, their choice for POTUS, DJT, may start WWIII

    wow some real insightful analysis there

    can’t wait to read your blogs, they’re surely dripping with certainties of this type

    so what if Trump spoke with Taiwan on the phone, time for the Chinqs to face the reality of the situation that Taiwan is not part of political China, and is light years ahead economically due to that freedom.

    Nice to see a World Leader get things right for once.

    World take note, there’s a new Sherriff in Town.

    You anti-Trump losers just can’t stand seeing a winner win winningly.

    Ford, Apple, Carrier. And he hasn’t even been sworn in yet.

    We told you he’d win. Rational folks recognize a leader. Eat it.

    • Cold N. Holefield December 5, 2016 at 11:11 am #

      Keep it up and Trump just may let you wash his Boxers. Or is it Briefs? I hope, for your sake because I care about you, it’s not Briefs. If it’s Briefs, you’ll never get those prodigious Skid Marks out and then you’ll be, quite literally & figuratively, in some Deep State Shit.

      • elysianfield December 5, 2016 at 11:28 am #

        “Keep it up and Trump just may let you wash his Boxers. Or is it Briefs?”

        Boxers or Briefs? Depends.

        • routersurfer December 5, 2016 at 11:54 am #

          Depends it is.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 2:07 pm #

        You called it wrong – and that is just unbearable to you. Trump is the hope of the world along with Putin. The God Brothers!

      • Majella December 5, 2016 at 8:27 pm #


    • Elrond Hubbard December 5, 2016 at 1:10 pm #

      fodase: “time for the [mainland Chinese] to face the reality of the situation that Taiwan is not part of political China, and is light years ahead economically due to that freedom.”

      Are they that much farther ahead anymore? Really?



      And as far as facing realities, um, China has nukes. Anyone who plans on dictating any ‘realities’ to them without a good, long, hard think first is a danger to themselves and others.

    • Majella December 5, 2016 at 8:25 pm #

      You’re delusional if you think that he will achieve anything of note or worth.

      He won’t ‘Build that wall! (already back-flipped to fences);

      He won’t “Lock her up!” (he now says she’s a nice person and has had enough to put up with already…!)

      He won’t “Drain the swamp!” (he’s already stacked his team with ex-lobbyists & Wall St insiders…)

      He won’t expel illegals – at least no more than ICE is currently doing under the present government;

      His Carrier deal was a bought&paid for PR stunt (with Indiana tax-payers’ money) and not even as good as he purported. the fact that it’s parent company (UTX) is a huge beneficiary of the defence budget surely didn’t have anything to do with it)

      He won’t be able to apply excise duties or tariff on individual companies, unless he turns over the Constitution, dissolves congress and makes himself Dictator for Life; (Even if he could & did, who pays the excise/tariffs? End-consumers…i.e. YOU)

      His tax plans make no sense at all – he is proposing to cut taxes to the bone while raising cash for infrastructure and an increase in defence budget, which will produce a $20 trillion increase in the national deficit over 4 years. Way to go to bankrupt the country, like it’s one of his petty corporations. Does he really think the USA can settle its stupendous debt for pennies on the dollar and yet the remain a relevant player?

      He cannot deliver a coherent sentence unless it’s on a teleprompter (that’s if he can actually read! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LFkN7QGp2c )

      God help us all.

      • Dumbedup December 8, 2016 at 7:54 pm #

        You are right. The only thing he will deliver consistently will be insults and bullying.

  11. K-Dog December 5, 2016 at 11:02 am #

    Jioomms read suggests mainstream media is behind the mysterious “organization” ‘PropOrNot’ whoi is responsible for the list. I suspect the deep state itself is behind the list.

    Regardless, go here and you will find that every site on the list is also on mine.


    I have them all. The serious and the whackadoodle.


    • K-Dog December 5, 2016 at 11:25 am #

      The WaPo was happy to push the lie. The intent was to sponsor a blacklist. Instead the WaPO provided a resource by publishing the list. That desparate attemp not to accept the responsibility of Hillary’s defeat is warping minds.

      The original story about H.R. 6393 was published in ‘RT’ but ‘RT’ did not want people to know the title of the bill or who sponsored it. That attempt at misdirection was so to not deal with the probably correct observation that Russia is very active with covert influence just like the American Government already certainly is. Thur lack of details in their story made me disregard the RT story in its entirety until I read the text of H.R. 6393 last week myself.

      RT is in ‘the list’ but as it was already listed in my newspaper pile I removed the duplicate reference from my list of menu tabs.

    • Elrond Hubbard December 5, 2016 at 1:12 pm #


      Have at it, hoss!

  12. RB December 5, 2016 at 11:06 am #

    Thank goodness politics has gotten interesting again. Chills me to think what another 4 years of media kissing White House ass. DT is a born and bred New Yorker. He punches back. He is the only candidate who could have run against the witch because he treated her as the thug she is. Good on him. DC will not likely be altered nor the rotten media that supports it. Trump pumps new life into these carrion eaters. We have a new crop of prophets that are showing up all over including this site. Prophets are more wrong by far than right. No exceptions here I am guessing.

    • Dumbedup December 8, 2016 at 7:56 pm #

      Clinton is the only Democrat who could not beat Trump.

  13. K-Dog December 5, 2016 at 11:08 am #

    Jim’s read suggests…

    It is always something.

    I’ll give my list better organization in time. The PropOrNot list only two-thirds as large as mine but it is a subset of mine.

    • K-Dog December 5, 2016 at 11:30 am #

      The PropOrNot list isonly two-thirds as large as mine. I have so many typos. My paws are not doing so well this morning. I’m out of here until I have had coffee and woken up more.

    • Elrond Hubbard December 5, 2016 at 1:14 pm #

      Try this:


      Bob’s your uncle!

      • K-Dog December 5, 2016 at 5:16 pm #

        Thanks EH that was nicely amusing, and informative.

  14. routersurfer December 5, 2016 at 11:58 am #

    Folks, a Deep State will end in something that would give Orwell bad dreams if the old boy could still dream. It feels like Winter in America.

  15. fodase December 5, 2016 at 12:06 pm #

    Keep it up and Trump just may let you wash his Boxers.

    as stated earlier, you got some great deep thinking going on there.

    Trump’s already boosted the economy (Ford, Apple, Carrier) and gotten the whole world to wise up to the insanity part of gloabalism – catastrophic immigration leading to cultural and economic impoverishment for entire countries, plus horrific acts of terrorism – while you write inanities about what ‘could’ or ‘might’ happen.

    you must be one of those ‘experts’ wpa cites whenever he tries to make a point without any substance to back it up.


    anything substantive to say, we’re all waiting here, no need to visit your multiple blogs

    Here’s something of value from President Trump regarding taxes:

    If you are single and earn less than $25,000, or married and jointly earn less than $50,000, you will not owe any income tax. That removes nearly 75 million households – over 50% – from the income tax rolls. They get a new one page form to send the IRS saying, “I win,” those who would otherwise owe income taxes will save an average of nearly $1,000 each.

    lol, it’s too easy

    • SteveO December 5, 2016 at 12:19 pm #

      Why not eliminates taxes all together?

      Like Cheney said “deficits don’t matter”.

      I think everyone is about to learn the real reason why the Fed is holding interest rates at zero.

      Hint: 21%

      • Elrond Hubbard December 5, 2016 at 1:20 pm #

        Here’s an idea: Eliminate all federal income taxes for everyone below $100,000. An incontinent monkey with polio could sell that proposition to the American people.

        To replace the revenues, institute a combination carbon tax/gasoline tax. On the principle that whatever you tax, you’ll get less of, just watch as greenhouse gas emissions decline and car-dependent suburbia begins to give way to sound urbanism and small town development. Everyone on this site who doesn’t support this idea ought to come as a surprise, honestly.

        • Cold N. Holefield December 5, 2016 at 1:40 pm #

          So long as it’s a Progressive Tax, otherwise, The Rich will continue flying and driving to their Heart’s Delight while the rest of us have to Shelter In Place in our Utopian Urbanism.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 2:27 pm #

          Ok, but only if people get to choose who they can rent or sell to. We want Covenants! and White only streets, neighborhoods, towns, cities, states, and nations again.

          • thwack December 5, 2016 at 5:48 pm #

            Anus Skorenzy

            Ok, but only if people get to choose who they can rent or sell to.


            I regret to inform you that “covenants” don’t allow people to choose who they can rent or sell to”; they actually do the exact opposite. The limit and retard the options in commercial transactions of those very people who have the most options to choose from.

            In other words, laws passed to retard relationships are usually aimed at preventing persons with the power from exercising their options to engage in MORE relationships, not less.

            For example, the anti miscegenation laws were passed to prevent white people from reproducing with black people; not the other way around.

            Laws against pedophilia and beastiality are for adults and humans, not children and pets.

            *you’re welcome*

          • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 7:13 pm #

            You remind me of Shift the Ape in one C.S Lewis’ Narnia books. I was making a play on words with the concept of Covenant in the Bible and Whites as the Covenant People.

            You’re not entirely wrong. Whites need to value themselves and abstain from sex with others. Blacks are never going to do that. One group of Carib Indians in Caribbean has a law, any woman who marries or mates with a Black is out. There is simply no other way to preserve their people. As you say, Adults and People, not Children and Pets.

          • thwack December 6, 2016 at 9:29 am #

            “Whites need to value themselves and abstain from sex with others.”


            “sex with others?”

            Who are you to tell white people who they can or can’t have sex with?

            Whats next, taxing their orgasms?

            Have you considered the possibility white people value themselves by refusing limitations on their thought, speech and actions?

            Rules, laws and collectivism are for the “little people”; autonomy is for the rich and powerful.

            Trying to control white peoples sexuality is worse than trying to control their money.

            Stay off their lawn.

            And don’t touch their dogs.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 1:42 pm #

            It’s axiomatic, thwack. Like a+b=b+a. It takes two Whites to produce another White. If Whites have sex with others, to that extent we cease to exist.

            Not that I blame You of course. You have nothing to lose. We do. And I blame you even less when considering Black women, both in appearance and character.

          • Elrond Hubbard December 6, 2016 at 4:21 pm #

            Janos: “It’s axiomatic, thwack. Like a+b=b+a. It takes two Whites to produce another White.”

            Notice the tautology: white people are white because they produce white offspring. The offspring are white because that’s what the parents are. What whiteness actually is, goes undefined — necessarily, because it’s actually just an expression of Janos’ prejudices.

            Amusingly, Janos has imported the idea of an axiom from formal logic in order to use it in burlesque form, as a justification for his bigotry. But human beings are far too complex and contingent to be boiled down to a set of postulates, even if Janos were capable of doing so.

          • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 5:38 pm #

            Confronting Vlad with logic.

            It doesn’t matter. His game is to be the racist. To fill the board with racism and bigotry.

            Rules don’t apply. It’s not a formal argument he’s after.

          • Elrond Hubbard December 6, 2016 at 9:21 pm #

            You’re absolutely right, Frankiti. I have no illusions of actually getting through to him — I’m only speaking for the record.

          • thwack December 6, 2016 at 10:17 pm #

            “What whiteness actually is, goes undefined — necessarily, because it’s actually just an expression of Janos’ prejudices.”

            Thats a good point Elrond; but what if Janos’ behavior you just outlined is actually what “whiteness” is?

            I like this definition better because it retains the agency racists like Janos are always trying to strip out of racism.

            This is what made the movie Europa Europa so interesting. The main character got put on the spot several times as he tried to pretend to be “German” without saying or doing anything to BE “German” (other than speaking the language)

            Janos and the other racists know this and its the reason why they are obsessed with calling HBD and human variation: “racial difference.”

            They can’t find anything concrete that doesn’t further reduce the number of people qualified to function as white.

            In some ways he’s his worst enemy.

            The racists need new management.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 7, 2016 at 1:48 pm #

            So talking about Whites is pseudo-science but “whiteness” is the height of sophistication? Because Whites are uniquely evil and everyone else is fine?

            This is your religion, O Thwack, O Quack.

            What are Whites? A race. And what is a race? A sub-species. Now ask Elrond how breeding everyone together until there’s just one color and no separate races is actually diversity. He’s very learned in this moonshine and you might learn more stuff that isn’t true. You are devout I have no doubt, but he is a High Priest.

          • thwack December 7, 2016 at 6:35 pm #

            “how breeding everyone together until there’s just one color and no separate races is actually diversity.”

            Did we start out that way?

          • Janos Skorenzy December 7, 2016 at 9:55 pm #

            Not necessarily unless you take the Adam and Eve story literally or the Lucy story. We might have evolved from a number of different populations, both inside and outside of Africa. In any case, we’re very different now and awakened Whites don’t want to fall back into the swamp of generic humanity. We feel our unique evolution is both beautiful and valuable. And that a Black mating with a high level White woman is a crime against Nature and the work of the Universe – Evolution.

          • thwack December 8, 2016 at 11:35 am #

            “We might have evolved from a number of different populations, both inside and outside of Africa.” — Janos Skamrenzy

            OK. but were these “different populations” white people “evolved from” (both inside and outside of Africa) nonwhite?

            If so, where did they come from?

            Are white people still “evolving?”

            If so, what are they evolving into?




            Evolution is an unguided, directionless, mindless, purposeless process (it even produced 70 IQ black people?); how can you claim an agenda if you admit you are a product of it?

            If you don’t eat your meat, you can’t have any pudding; how can you have any pudding if you don’t eat yer meat?

        • elysianfield December 6, 2016 at 10:10 am #

          “On the principle that whatever you tax, you’ll get less of…,

          When did they start taxing sex?

    • Majella December 5, 2016 at 8:38 pm #

      @ fodase:

      Really? So, these 75 million are currently actually PAYING Fed Income Tax? I suspect not. At $1,000 average per, that would be $75 billion out of the revenue. His tax plan is an utterly incoherent JOKE.

      Also, if your (or Trump’s) view of ‘Winning” is earning less than $25,000 a year, are you a winner? Nice going! $12.25 an hour – wow, you’ll be getting bored with winning so much! .

      I’d rather be a Loser and contribute to society.

    • Dumbedup December 8, 2016 at 8:03 pm #

      Horse hockey. The middle class is about to get the biggest screw job yet. He can’t possibly pay for what he wants to do and cut taxes. Deficits will skyrocket. What will happen is that Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security will be cut forcing us into another recession. That will cause another credit crisis. There will be no money to bail out failing banks and brokers so the middle class will be forced to use their savings and retirement accounts to bail out Wall Street and the government. Insults and bullying won’t save Trump from criticism and that is where fascism will begin. The thought and opinion police are already tying their shoes.

      • Majella December 12, 2016 at 7:00 pm #

        Very succinctly put Dumbedup. The classic ‘bail in’ solution, which has put into law in most western democracies since 2008.

        Anyone with cash deposits in a bank will find them converted into ‘shares’ overnight.

  16. fodase December 5, 2016 at 12:08 pm #

    another great real-world plan:

    No business of any size, from a Fortune 500 to a mom and pop shop to a freelancer living job to job, will pay more than 15% of their business income in taxes.

    folks, you gotta love our President, for the first time in 8 years

  17. FincaInTheMountains December 5, 2016 at 12:09 pm #

    I do not know about you, but the picture of these 5 great Atlantic leaders reminds me a child lyrics about “Five little fishes”. This one:


    Five little fishes
    Swimming out to sea
    Teasing Mr. Shark
    “You can’t catch me!”
    Along came Mr. Shark
    As quiet as can be

    Four little fishes
    Swimming out to sea
    Teasing Mr. Shark
    “You can’t catch me!”
    Along came Mr. Shark
    As quiet as can be

    Three little fishes
    Swimming out to sea
    Teasing Mr. Shark
    “You can’t catch me!”
    Along came Mr. Shark
    As quiet as can be

    Two little fishes
    Swimming out to sea
    Teasing Mr. Shark
    “You can’t catch me!”
    Along came Mr. Shark
    As quiet as can be

    One little fishes
    Swimming out to sea
    Teasing Mr. Shark
    “You can’t catch me!”
    Along came Mr. Shark
    As quiet as can be

    No little fishes swimming in the sea.

  18. volodya December 5, 2016 at 12:24 pm #

    Did your years in school do you any good? Did it enable you to string together coherent thoughts of your own making, to look at events and to form your own conclusions?

    There’s a lot of fake news out there, not least that “news” communicated by bastions of the established order. Do you believe official economic stats? Did you ever trust one word coming out of Ben Bernanke or Larry Summers or Paul Ryan?

    Do you really believe there’s anything that’s too big to fail?

    When somebody high and mighty sez “systemically important” or “too big to fail” I read his lips and I see him mouthing the words, “walking dead”, “big donor”, “too well connected”.

    When you hear Paul Ryan saying “entitlement reform”, watch how his lips move. He’s saying “kiss your ass good-bye”.

    People in the Soviet Union believed Communist Party propaganda. The line-ups for basic food, the lousy living conditions, told the truth. The only product that never ran short was vodka.

    The consequence for the Soviet regime, as fake news outran reality, was collapse. The USSR went from global behemoth to chest-beating weakling, capable only of taking on pissants like the Ukraine and Syria (watch the Russians sinking into THAT quagmire glub, glub).

    Did America’s ruling elites learn from the Soviet demise? I doubt it.

    • janet December 5, 2016 at 12:48 pm #

      When you hear Paul Ryan saying “entitlement reform”, watch how his lips move. He’s saying “kiss your ass good-bye”. –volodya

      You will still have your ass. You will not have your pension, your social security, your medicare, your TriCare… you will not have any entitlement. Republicans have been dreaming of stripping entitlements since FDR.

      Trump will be a Republican president, if the electoral college votes him in on Dec. 19. That remains to be seen. Trump is not president yet. We have to wait and see who is sworn in on Jan. 20 to know for sure.

      • Cold N. Holefield December 5, 2016 at 1:02 pm #

        Oh, I see. If Hillary is somehow miraculously sworn in January 20th, we will still have our pensions, our social security, our medicare, our TriCare… we will still have any entitlement the Republicans have been dreaming of stripping since FDR.

        Butt, and this is an awfully BIG BUTT, we will most assuredly not have our asses.

        Thanks, Janet. We can rest easy now, just so long as we don’t try to sit on our soon to be non-existent asses if Hillary is miraculously sworn in on January 20th instead of Trump.

        Confucius say, “person without ass is full of shit.” He also say, “too many people without asses put sofa companies out of business.”

        • Q. Shtik December 5, 2016 at 4:26 pm #

          Confucius say, “person without ass is full of shit.”


          Confucius say, “woman who fly upside down have clack up.”

          • elysianfield December 6, 2016 at 10:13 am #

            Confucius say…unmarried woman who conceives in back of car with automatic transmission has son who grows up to be shiftless bastard….

      • Frankiti December 5, 2016 at 5:19 pm #

        Wpa wpa

    • FincaInTheMountains December 5, 2016 at 1:14 pm #


  19. fodase December 5, 2016 at 1:02 pm #

    oh god another republicans want to kill old people and social security.

    if wpa and the democrats accuse the other side of something, you can be sure they’re projecting what they’d love to do

    you lost the election because your side is bankrupt in the area of any ideas that can benefit normal everyday people, the ones who know which bathroom to use

    • Cold N. Holefield December 5, 2016 at 1:09 pm #

      Trump says, “let them drink Chromium-6.” And so they do and so they will.

      Who wants to take bets on when the next river goes up in flames. In five years, do you think? or will it be eight years? If he throws more rocks at the China in its playpen, maybe all the rivers will burn in under two years and everyone can film it with their Smart Phones. and Tweet about it before they evaporate and/or melt.

      • Dumbedup December 8, 2016 at 8:06 pm #

        It won’t be 8 years, 4 years or 2 years. If JHK is even allowed to write, and we are allowed to comment, there will be a chorus of “I told you so’s”.

  20. elysianfield December 5, 2016 at 1:24 pm #

    Cold now has identified me as an “Alt. Right” guy, a Catamite, and by extension, I guess, an Ernst Rohm Fascist…But Wait!

    What are our major differences, beside intelligence, education, and a vote for Trump? A glimmer of…hope. I think we both would like to see the United States and it’s citizens prosper, or at least survive at a comfortable level. Cold sees Trump as a buffoon, a clown, an inept, lying, cheating womanizing criminal. I see Trump as a much faulted human being that might actually try to do what he said he would do. Do I think that Trump can actually snatch victory from the jaws of defeat? Nooo, we as a Nation have progressed too far down the rabbit hole for that. Will he solve Immigration issues? Will he make America Great Again? Probably not…but it is enough for me that he will try.

    Do I think the “Taiwan Call” a blunder? Cause the Chinese to “lose face”? Give us all a break…that is the first offer in a protracted negotiation that probably will never be resolved in our favor…a very low bar, indeed, if lost face is an issue. Reminds me of Nixon’s China Bid, writ small….

    The Art of the Deal

    • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 2:33 pm #

      Yes, as Alex Jones said the other day, we betrayed Chiang Kai Shek and put Mao in power. Now ask yourself WHY? Long Plan – let China get all the industry and allow the Globalists to dismantle Western Culture. No? Come up with another reason for the utterly bizarre and evil behavior of our deep state in regards to them.

      Trump accepting a congratulatory phone call is the first small step in dismantling an extraordinarily evil Plan already far along, one that has caused unspeakable suffering for the American People and bids to do worse in the years to come.

      • malthuss December 5, 2016 at 2:55 pm #

        Alex Jones [33 numerology] took ‘None Dare Call it Conspiracy’ and
        Birch information and made big money.

        Nothing too original in his stuff.

        See my latest post as well.

  21. pkrugman December 5, 2016 at 1:27 pm #

    “republicans want to kill old people and social security”

    fodase, republicans want to lower taxes at the same time they say we are 27 Trillion in debt. Republicans say they want to lower taxes at the same time they say social security is bankrupt.

    So how is lowering taxes going to do anything other than destroy social security? Old people will die on their own. Republicans just help them to die more quickly.

    • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 5:42 pm #

      Sometimes for the better. Do we really need the drooling years part 2?
      Another taboo; being able to cash one’s chips while one can still play the game.

    • Dumbedup December 8, 2016 at 8:10 pm #

      This what Republicans do. They cut taxes and run up deficits so they can complain about the inefficiency and costliness of government and government regulations. It is their slight of hand. As Thomas Frank has said, “bad government is the result of rule by those who believe government is bad.”

      • Q. Shtik December 8, 2016 at 10:34 pm #

        This [is] what Republicans do. They cut taxes and run up deficits – Dumb


        Paul Krugman, one of the biggest lefties there is, favors bigger deficits….. spend more than you take in in taxes….. austerity is insane.

        You’re a leftie, Dumb, do you disagree with the great economics Nobel Laureate?

  22. LewisLucanBooks December 5, 2016 at 1:48 pm #

    That hoopla further up the comment list about Asian vs Oriental … well, years ago …

    I was at a party to celebrate (I kid you not) a fellow who had just got his PHD in diversity training. He was one of those “David … not Dave” guys. Well, I referred to a person as Oriental and was corrected.

    “People are Asian. Inanimate objects are oriental.”

    I reflected for a moment and said, “So … if an Asian gentleman has a massive heart attach and keels over dead, is he an oriental corpse?”

    Eye roll and deep sigh. Actually, he was kind of fun as he always left himself wide open for such comebacks.

    Now I’m polite, kind and always try and take other people’s feelings into account. Where I live I’m considered some kind of a left wing liberal. But that’s about the time I started loosing all sympathy for the more politically correct than thou, SJW crowd. And, no, I didn’t vote for Trump. Or, Hillary. For the first time in my life (and I’m old) I voted for “None of the above.” But I do understand why some of the people who voted for Trump, voted for him. Lew I

    • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 2:37 pm #

      The Triumph of the Red Hats will go down in human history as a turning point. Fascism is back with a vengeance. It was always right and now at last, after slaughtering millions of their brothers, White Americans have realized the Truth. Or are beginning to at least.

      • Q. Shtik December 5, 2016 at 4:46 pm #

        Fascism is back with a vengeance.


        The ‘fashy’ in fashy haircut, a term totally new to me that someone mentioned in last week’s thread, stands for fascist. I see this look everywhere.

      • PeteAtomic December 5, 2016 at 7:48 pm #

        I don’t believe Trump is a fascist by any means.

        My sincere hope for Mr. Trump is that his what Jesse Ventura was for me here in Minnesota. There are actually many parallels in the rise of both of these men in face of fierce opposition by the Establishment and MSM, and how both of these men have started their administrations. Ventura was one of the best governors that I have had in my lifetime. He was a mix of freethinking pragmatist and right leaning populist who left Minnesota better than he left it, regardless of the wannabe social democrats in the Twin Cities think of him.

        I still watch some of the old debates between the majors and Ventura in the middle, with ole Jesse wrecking ’em verbally. Oh man, it was golden.

        I know that Trump and Ventura worked together loosely in the Reform Party movement, and I hope that Trump continues that kind of reformist/populist angle.

        • PeteAtomic December 5, 2016 at 7:49 pm #

          My sincere hope for Mr. Trump is that *he is* what….

          this site needs an edit button, LOL

          • Elrond Hubbard December 6, 2016 at 2:59 pm #

            Yes, it does. Many’s the time I’ve winced at some obvious mistake of mine, three seconds too late.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 2:43 pm #

      I bought a used book from the Library Store, a compendium of stories of Indians killing Whites and kidnapping White women and children. A Liberal asked me what I was buying. I told him. He hated me. Why? Am I supposed to pretend that all that didn’t happen? Or even more absurdly, take the Indian’s side? There would have been no America without the Conquest of the Indians, right?

      I am an American, a Red Hat proud of his heritage. Red Skins don’t like it? Tough. They lost before and they’ll lose again. Trump wants the pipeline and he’s going to get it. They can put that in their peace pipes (water of course!) and smoke it.

      • malthuss December 5, 2016 at 3:00 pm #

        If your home was invaded by armed killers, what would YOU do?

        The savages did the right thing, from their POV.

        Got it?

        • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 3:10 pm #

          We have our pov, and that’s the one that matters. We wanted this Continent and took it. Anyone who disapproves should leave.

          How many Indians really want to go back to all that? The hardliners would vote to make us leave – as long as we could leave all our “stuff” behind and perhaps White slaves to run it.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 3:59 pm #

            Anyone who discards their own point of view and adopts that of another or another group’s, are, to the extent they do, literally insane. It is the abdication of being, the betrayal of self. What else could it be?

            Thus Orientals seem oriental to us, so we call them oriental. That’s basic sanity. Elrond is trying to lure you onto the rocks of mental illness – all so that you can be “good”. To follow his fey and flickering light is the height of foolishness that only leads to societal breakdown – which is exactly what he wants. Ditto Obama. Countless White Americans voted for a Communist Racist who hates America and hates them as Whites.

          • Frankiti December 5, 2016 at 5:27 pm #

            Yeah who would want to go back to an era of sustenance, local trade, almost absolute freedom, deep appreciation and respect of nature, simplicity, minimalism, unspoiled waters and air, living within means, deep familial and community relations? I dunno? People serially posting on a blog about the coming return to simplified society?

          • Cactus Girl December 5, 2016 at 7:11 pm #

            Good comeback, Frankiti! I always wondered why more early settlers (especially men) didn’t go native. I would have.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 7:20 pm #

            Just read a great story about the Comanche. They liked to take captives and then ransom them later. Sometimes they were a bit damaged. They met with the White Texans who were expecting 200 captives to be brought in. Instead the Comanche show up with one girl, covered with bruises and her nose burned off. The Comanche women were jealous of the attention White women got from the men you see. And you don’t need a nose to haul firewood and shit anyway.

            The White Texans lost it when they say her and killed ever one of those varmaints. The Comanche were outraged and saw this as an utter betrayal. They had done nothing wrong after all – it was just business. Thereafter, they were constantly at war with the Texans whom they saw as murderers of honest businessmen like themselves.

            Still interested? How attached are you to your nose?

          • Cactus Girl December 5, 2016 at 11:27 pm #

            Doesn’t seem too different from people accusing women of witchcraft and getting them burned at the stake. Plus, I said I would have done it if I was a man. Women never have as many options. I do know there are many stories of young white girls being forced against their will to go back years later after they had been abducted.

            By the time we were in Texas fighting Commanches, we had a long history of all sorts of violence on both sides. I was speaking more of the first settlers, people like the Pilgrims.

            And Janos, the Indians were not terrified of the Pilgrims. They had been trading with the white man for close to 100 years before the Pilgrims got there, never allowing the traders on land. When the Pilgrims got there, the Patuxet had been recently decimated by a plague they caught from the traders. That is why Squanto allied himself with them; he was almost the last of his kind. He wanted an alliance to protect the last of his people from the Narragansett and Massachusett peoples. THAT’S who he was afraid of.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 1:47 pm #

            Philbrick says they were afraid of the Pilgrims. Their Shamans tried to work magic against them but gave up, saying they were just too powerful. When a couple of the Indians planning an attack on Plymouth were caught and killed, thousands of Indians all over the Cape and Southeastern Mass fled their villages, abandoning their crops, to hide in the woods. Abject terror of a hundred or less people. Pretty pathetic on the face of it, but again, factor in the supernatural fear the Pilgrims inspired.

      • Dumbedup December 8, 2016 at 8:14 pm #

        You would make a great case study in psychological projection.

    • daveed December 5, 2016 at 10:09 pm #

      “He was one of those “David … not Dave” guys.”

      Trying not to be overly sensitive, but….what the heck does that mean?

  23. Ludwig Beck December 5, 2016 at 2:05 pm #

    Here is a good analysis and biography of The Deep State

    Political Science’s “Theory of Everything”


    • Yuri Sowryteski December 5, 2016 at 8:52 pm #

      +Ludwig Beck ~ I’ll see your analysis of the Deep State, and raise you


      an analysis of non-violent action.

      Stepping back from the planet for some perspective, we see a myopic struggle for control – control of the levers of power, control of thought, control of societies. Are any of the contenders able to control their individual lives? Or are they able only to operate within the confines of their situations?

      Since the contracts in place with regard to DAPL will expire before the terms can be met, the contracts will be reviewed, and may not even be renewed.

      Since political parties in America are merely a distraction, and news of the Deep State as puppeteer kicks in, one by one, supporters of the status quo withdraw their support, take back their permission, and stop delegating their decision making.

      Some even go so far as to supply their own needs with their own hands. Others liberate their own minds, often liberating their own hearts too. I know people (well, one person) who have payed everything for freedom.

      I don’t think resisting the Deep State is necessary, or even helpful, if it’s just distracting you from solving the problem of say, getting out of debt.

      Your mind may be colonized by a corporation if you are in debt, or if you have money invested in stocks, bonds, or property. Those things may be more important to you than freedom, or life. If so, you may benefit most from figuring out, in your own case, how to liberate yourself from mental slavery. (Hint: political terms wont help much, or figuring out how to liberate someone else)

      I started by responding to L Beck, but slid into addressing all the folks on this comment thread who while away the hours trolling each other.

      Thanks JHK for the essays, and too for the free fire zone. Now back to the book I someyears reread come end of November, and the first snow: The Name of the Rose.

  24. capt spaulding December 5, 2016 at 2:46 pm #

    An ignorant population will get the form of government they deserve. It’s playing out in front of us right now. JHK has been trying to point out this fact for as long as I’ve been reading him. Unfortunately, ignorant people have always been in the majority, not just in this country, but other countries as well. It’s frustrating to sit back and watch everything go to hell, and be unable to do anything about it. . There is really nothing for you to do but try to guess what the coming years will bring, and do your best to prepare for it. One of the smartest sayings I have ever read is: “Democracy contains the seeds of it’s own destruction”. We’re watching it happen in front of us. Step on the gas, let’s get this shit over with.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 3:12 pm #

      Exactly, Cap. That’s why the Founding Fathers hated Democracy. And why the Public School mediocrities known as Teachers don’t tell you that.

    • Frankiti December 5, 2016 at 5:29 pm #

      Not only ignorant, but powerless and, as the media would have it; blind and dumb. No eyes, no voice, no legs.

    • Cactus Girl December 5, 2016 at 7:14 pm #

      My uncle the doctor lives in Japan. He says Americans are dirt dumb, and deserve to suffer the results of their assininity.

      • daveed December 5, 2016 at 10:14 pm #

        @ cactus girl

        “Assininity”: Is this a word you invented? I rather like it.
        Maybe drop one ‘s’, though.

        • Cactus Girl December 5, 2016 at 11:28 pm #

          Can’t take credit. My uncle invented it 😉

      • malthuss December 6, 2016 at 12:03 am #

        And what of Fukushima?

        • Cactus Girl December 6, 2016 at 2:51 am #

          Good question. I don’t suppose the people there had much say in that matter.

          • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 9:18 am #

            Again, contrary to what some people here pretend to believe. Racial loyalty lies distant second to self and greed. Another congenital human condition spanning all “races”.

            The people of Fukushima were sold out by their own, as were the employees called in to contain. Money always before blood.

    • PeteAtomic December 5, 2016 at 8:02 pm #


      However, I think the mercurial uncertainty of a character like Trump is especially worrying for the Left in the US.

      If work lives in particular improve substantially for members of the demo coalition, the demo party is in big trouble, particularly with Hispanics. If you listened to Tim Kaine’s speech in Spanish he gave to a group of Hispanics titled “Faith, Family and Work”, it read like something you could have heard in Mexico City 25 years ago. So, how the demos square that demographic to the LGBTQ,et. al crowd, I don’t know. Magic, maybe?

      Or maybe that’s why he gave the speech in Spanish, LOL 🙂

  25. malthuss December 5, 2016 at 2:52 pm #

    Notice how the mainstream media howls at people who are angry about muslim migrants raping and murdering women. Fake news.

    ‘Censorship is running high in Europe also, especially in Germany where the government is desperate to keep a lid on crimes committed by the migrants they invited. ARD, the national broadcaster in Germany, did not mention the murder and rape of a 19 year old medical student with a peep, leading to angry reactions from many citizens who rightfully fear for their daughters security.’


    • BackRowHeckler December 5, 2016 at 3:17 pm #

      Worried about your 12 year old daughter being raped by Sudanese or Somalian Muzzies living on the streets of Berlin, Paris or Copenhagen?

      Only Nazis, nativists and xenophobes worry about that. The EU Commissioners have everything under control. If you think different, well, local police just might pay you a visit; ‘explain yourself sir’.


      check out yesterdays video of the 73 year old man stabbed to death in the middle of the day on a main thoro fare in Baltimore. Old guy never had a chance, lay on the street bleeding to death. Check out the assailant casually walking away Or in NYC, NYPost photo of women in upper east side being pounded by assailant, who looks determined to get her pocketbook, come what may. So far not a word from BLM org.


      • malthuss December 5, 2016 at 4:07 pm #

        X 500 every year?

        I dont need to know the details. The devil is in the details, and elsewhere.

    • thwack December 5, 2016 at 6:15 pm #

      “‘Censorship is running high in Europe also, especially in Germany where the government is desperate to keep a lid on crimes committed by the migrants they invited.”

      I think we sometimes forget that white people are dropping bombs on brown and black people 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, all over the planet. You people set fire to the nonwhite peoples countries, then you get mad when they show up in yours seeking food and shelter (and p*ssy)…

      We are just now finding out the dirt your people did 500 years ago; so who the hell knows what crimes y’all committed last weekend?

      The white race needs new management.

      Maybe Trump will deliver it?

  26. fodase December 5, 2016 at 2:58 pm #

    fodase, republicans want to lower taxes at the same time they say we are 27 Trillion in debt. Republicans say they want to lower taxes at the same time they say social security is bankrupt.

    yep, always the same canard, we can never lower taxes because we owe so much.

    anyone with any sense knows that lowering taxes spurs tax revenue because people buy more, which means more production.

    dumbo lefties know nothing about economics, they think taking away all the grass from a cow results in more milk.

    try letting cows eat lots and lots of grass and see what you get.

    social security has been bankrupt for decades. it’s a charade that’s continuable though, using the same sleight of hand that’s always been used.

    Republicans just help them to die more quickly.

    can’t help you there, you’re brainwashed and i’m not wasting my time with nincompoops

    • malthuss December 5, 2016 at 3:01 pm #

      So when does the Collapse happen? January 21?

  27. fodase December 5, 2016 at 3:02 pm #

    An ignorant population will get the form of government they deserve. It’s playing out in front of us right now.

    sounds like you missed the last 8 years of catastrophic immigration, terror attacks, catastrophic healthcare increases, catastrophic breaches of national security on purpose, catastrophic racebaiting resulting in police assassinations, etc.

    check out encyclopedia brittanica ‘the obama presidency’

    Trump’s already benefiting the economy wildly, Dow reached all-time high, companies staying in the US, tax rates set to decline significantly

    i mean, how can you not see this stuff? laughable!

    • daveed December 5, 2016 at 10:30 pm #

      @ fodase

      Yes, magically, things took a turn for the worse in the US almost exactly eight years ago. The previous 8 years were so frickin’ awesome. God, I miss them days. Especially September of 2001. And 2008. And everything in between. Good times.

  28. BackRowHeckler December 5, 2016 at 3:03 pm #

    I’m reading Lee Millers’s book about the Lost Roanoke Colony, 1587.

    International Intrigue (Anglo Spanish War) Deep State Shenanigans (in the Elizabethean Court) Elite Politicos on the make (Sir Walter Raleigh) coverups and lies at the highest level (as to what happened to the English on Roanoke Island) and the clash of civilizations resulting in brutal, no quarter given racial warfare … from DAY 1, that is, 1584.

    We still seeing it play out.


    • PeteAtomic December 5, 2016 at 8:08 pm #

      I’ll have to pick that one up. Sounds good.

  29. fodase December 5, 2016 at 3:43 pm #

    BackRow, they found the first settler killed by the indians and buried just outside the pike fence in Jamestown or Roanoke, not sure which. Highly interesting, they matched the settlers’ account of the indian attack with the boy’s (14 years old I believe) injuries to positively I.D. him.

    Bloody phenomenal considering it was 400 years after the fact. As an aside, the examiners said the boy would’ve likely died of sepsia (?) from all the pus accumulating in his jawbone, from a horribly infected tooth.

    ah the joys of natural living

    • BackRowHeckler December 5, 2016 at 3:55 pm #

      I started with Philbricks book about the Pilgrims in Plymouth, Mass, c1620. After this book on Roanoke I’ll be be looking for a history of Jamestown, Va, 1607, then maybe Spanish incursion thru Florida into what’s now the southeast US.

      Trying to get an idea how things began here.

      It was a touch and go situation from the beginning. Nothing was certain, and the future was cloudy.


      • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 4:04 pm #

        I’m reading the Pilgrim book right now. The Indians were terrified of the Pilgrims and that’s the only reason they made it. That and the plague that had wiped out so much of the population before they arrived.

        In Virginia, there was no such luck. Jamestown had to deal with the Powhattan Confederacy and it took many years before they could really do so. Finally after one terrible battle where they lost one third of their men, they gave up all notions of compromise or conversion. Their will was united: the Indians had to go.

        What does he say “Gone to Crotoa” mean? Some say the Whites moved in with a tribe and are today the blonde Lumbee Indians. Or at least the women did so….

        • Frankiti December 5, 2016 at 5:36 pm #

          Joara. Francisco Chicora. Francisco saw their world and wanted none of it.

        • Dumbedup December 8, 2016 at 8:20 pm #

          Poor white people. It took several hundred years but we showed those injuns who was boss. Now we can show all those black people and muslims. We got our man.

          Right Janos!

  30. fodase December 5, 2016 at 3:47 pm #

    Yes, prepare for doomsday as Trump nears swearing-in:


    losers and doofuses wouldn’t recognize common sense if they were mugged by it

    • malthuss December 5, 2016 at 4:03 pm #

      Yes, prepare for doomsday as Trump nears swearing-in:
      As soon as USA currency is not seen as ‘strong,’ collapse is here, I guess.

  31. Frankiti December 5, 2016 at 5:00 pm #

    “Pretty obviously, the struggle between mainstream news and Web news climaxed over the election, with the mainstream overwhelmingly pimping for Hillary”

    Lest there be confusion, Hillary was doing the pimping and the media of record was doing what they do best; whoring themselves out.

    They were showing the leg, strutting the corner, flashing down johns driving by.

  32. K-Dog December 5, 2016 at 5:30 pm #

    The forces which desire to make the American people even more ignorant than they already are suffered a major setback over the weekend. The Standing Rock protesters have prevailed despite the MSM doing their best to keep Standing Rock news from being covered. That enough people found out in time to stop the DAP along its current route has to be a major thorn in the side of the MSM billionaires. It turns out that when a thousand army veterans show up to face the forces of North Dakatoa and says ‘Bring It’ the government backs down.

    It is all the pro-Sioux websites and their attempts to hypnotize average Americans with dancing eagle feathers that must of made it happen.

    What you didn’t know about this? How can that be?

    I guess since most people don’t even know about Sanding Rock the defeat of evil was not total.

    • Frankiti December 5, 2016 at 5:46 pm #

      White people have finally learned that money, class, and privilege come before any notion of racial fielty.

      Red Jacket’s letter can serve the white man today as it did the red man yesterday.

      Leviathan see no colors. It takes. Freedom, thought, money, religion, belief. From everyone.

    • Bro Jobe December 6, 2016 at 10:13 am #

      I’ve been paying attention. I welcome any victory over the world-destroying forces of cowboy capitalism.

      God help those folk when the Monster comes into office.

  33. fodase December 5, 2016 at 5:51 pm #

    Janos, I lived in one of the W towns near you there until recently, and as you know you get to know the Wompanoag and other tribes a bit through the local history, casinos etc.

    One riveting account from the 1600s was that the Indians were perfect physical specimens, capable of running 40 miles in a day to deliver a message, and then run back the 40 miles the next day to deliver the reply.

    The Pilgrim womenfolk must’ve had some mighty prurient thoughts upon seeing one of these burly, nearly naked Indians appear at their forts.

    Imagine all their prayers for forgiveness – or not – during virtually daily services, as well as furtive glances at one another while knitting lol.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 5, 2016 at 7:27 pm #

      Yet they lived in fear of the Iroquois to the West and the little band of Pilgrims. Little Miles Standish grabbed one of these giants and cut of his head. They Pilgrims mounted the head on a pole to terrify any other hostiles. The band of Indians friendly to them loved this show of force.

      Later when they had lost their fear of the Whites, they did make a good account of themselves in the King Phillip’s War. And another Algonquin Tribe, the Blackfoot, were the terror of the Northwestern Plains.

      • elysianfield December 6, 2016 at 10:24 am #

        Mugwump was a bad Indian….

        • elysianfield December 6, 2016 at 10:29 am #

          Or Magua, if you will.

      • malthuss December 6, 2016 at 11:07 am #

        I went to a talk about Totems.
        The presenter had studied Indians of the Pacific Northwest.

        GAWD. What a colossal disrespect for human life the savages had.
        Slaves. Torture.

        One scenario that was described was ‘making a grand entrance at a party.’
        The person would land his canoe on the shore.
        He would have his slaves lying on the shore and the canoe would
        crush and kill them.

        The statement was, ‘I am so rich that I can kill slaves on a whim.’

        • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 1:52 pm #

          Now you’re talking! Before, your ahamkara or “I maker” was talking, the part of you that identifies with your body.

  34. fodase December 5, 2016 at 6:00 pm #

    For the story on this young boy, aged 14-15, who was the first Pilgrim settler to be slain in Jamestown by Indians, see http://anthropology.si.edu/writteninbone/first_fatality.html for a riveting account.

    Notice the very well formed and healthy teeth, contradicting the notion that Britains universally had bad teeth in those years. This is further borne out by the very nice teeth exhibited by the frozen corpses of the ill-fated Franklin expedition, viz. https://www.awesomestories.com/asset/view/FRANKLIN-EXPEDITION-MUMMIES-Mummies-Bodies-Talk

    jus’ sayin’

    • Timo December 5, 2016 at 6:59 pm #

      Pre-refined sugar?

  35. DurangoKid December 5, 2016 at 7:06 pm #

    Re: “A little paranoia . . .”

    When dealing with a state teetering on the precipice above full fledged fascism, a healthy skepticism of means and motives is hardly paranoid if I understand it to be an unreasonable or delusional fear of persecution or some such. It should by now be accepted as a truism that the government works largely at the behest of private interests that have no other motives but to abscond with your earnings whether by feasting at the trough of public money or hawking wares that neither affordable or useful. The Deep State really isn’t all that deep after all if one considers formal government but a veneer. If one assumes something is deep by virtue of having been ignored by corporate media, then one has been living in a state of willful ignorance. The corporate or mainstream media is weak standard.

    • Dumbedup December 8, 2016 at 8:27 pm #

      Well said. Now that we will soon have a corporatist as President instead of a statesman the veneer can come off. No one can do a thing about it for 4 years. This Congress will never impeach Trump. His misdeeds will be covered up and anyone who speaks up will be silenced.

  36. rapier December 5, 2016 at 8:26 pm #

    It will benefit everyone to consider the decent probability that this “next financial crisis” could be several years in the future. I am not saying it won’t be sooner, tomorrow even, but it well could be much longer. That is especially true of US based financial assets which are of course denominated in dollars.

    The Fed if needs be will do massive QE again, massive currency swaps again, and who knows even help unleash the last great hope for global liquidity in the form of IMF Special Drawing Rights, SDR’s.
    If Yellen won’t go along she will be out. Everything Trump wants to do, thinks he wants to do and all he will be forced to do will entail the monatazation of the now growing again deficits. For everyone including the Feds Board of Governors who worry about the loss of credibility with any massive new unconventional need not worry as it is only the Masters of the Universe confidence which counts and all they want is more money printed to liquefy them. They don’t give a rats ass about theory, ideology or any other damn thing but show us the damn money.

  37. pentrus December 5, 2016 at 11:30 pm #

    The world and the politics of the United States has gotten so weird that there is no longer any way of guessing which way to turn that will allow for one’s survival, either economically or physically. It seems we have put ourselves on a trajectory that will inevitably lead to conflict. But how widespread will the conflict be when it comes, and will it come home to the United States? I think so.

    I am concerned about the breakdown of infrastructure and systems that provide for the basic sanitation and health of our society. When a lot of people live in close proximity and water and sewage treatment are no longer working, at least reliably, disease can rampage through a population and kill many of the very young and very old, and quite a few in between. Imagine when antibiotics become very scarce, or immunizations against things like the flu are impossible to get, something most of us take for granted now.

    I agree with many of the individuals who regularly post here that our economic system is “eating its young” and is due to fail, sucking up all that money I’ve been REQUIRED to sink into Social Security and pension plans over the years. If currency is outlawed I don’t think there will be much security into having bought physical precious metals for trade, since the government can also make it a crime to own them. It would almost be as bad as slavery was during the colonial period here, or during the first century of the United States’ existence, except there would be no way of escaping this new kind of slavery.

    While I don’t think firearms ownership will ever lead to open revolt against an oppressive government, I’d like to still have one or two around to scare off the more timid of those who might want to loot what little I will have left, but the fact is I am old and tired and unlikely to be able to employ the level of violence that would keep the most determined criminals at bay when things really break down.

    I want to be able to plan, but all I feel I can do is improve my health and overall fitness, acquire skills long neglected (planting and harvesting some of our own food, using manual tools, etc), and learn about ways to do with much less or without. Stockpiling weapons and food is a relatively short-term solution, although it might help one get over the “hump” when things get really dicey.

    I have eliminated debt, although the government can always find a way to levy a tax that, when it can’t be paid in a cash poor society, will allow them to seize your property.

    I probably should invest in relationships to a greater degree. That may be the most valuable currency during the bad times.

    Here’s hoping that I don’t zig when I should zag in the upcoming unraveling.

    • Dumbedup December 8, 2016 at 10:28 pm #

      Nice post that echoes much of what I believe as well. Gold, silver and other precious items won’t be as valuable as toilet paper, soap and fresh water. I keep guns, but I’m not going to draw attention to myself. If things get dicey I might try and build a shelter under my house with an escape hatch through the floor. I doubt my son and I can defend ourselves against anything other than the occasional marauder. Living low and inconspicuous and building relationships with neighbors to collaborate and share (small scale economy) is going to be the best way to survive if the grid goes down.

      What pisses me off is that the 1% are fortifying themselves. The water, sewer, power and internet may go off for most of us, but it won’t for them. Their life will go on and it will be protected by the militarized police while the Bully-in-Chief tells us to shut up and take it.

  38. janet December 6, 2016 at 2:03 am #

    36 flipped electoral votes are needed for someone other than Trump to be elected on Dec. 19. The number of faithless electors is increasing. Even Republicans are on board. A Republican member of the Electoral College from Texas has promised to vote against Donald Trump during the college’s meeting Dec. 19, saying the president-elect “shows daily he is not qualified for office.”

    The Federalist Papers, Suprun wrote, argue that the Electoral College is tasked with ensuring candidates are “qualified, not engaged in demagogy, and independent from foreign influence.” Trump, he said, does not meet these standards, and should therefore be rejected from the White House.

    “Mr. Trump,” Suprun wrote, “lacks the foreign policy experience and demeanor needed to be commander in chief … Mr. Trump urged violence against protesters at his rallies during the campaign. He speaks of retribution against his critics.”

    Suprun added that he has “poured countless hours” into serving his party, and will continue to do so. “But I owe no debt to a party,” he wrote. “I owe a debt to my children to leave them a nation they can trust.”

    With his promise, Suprun becomes the Republican party’s first potential “faithless elector” this presidential election, The Guardian reports. Previously, seven of the nation’s 538 electors ? all Democrats in states won by Hillary Clinton ? had voiced their intent to break their pledge.

    • FincaInTheMountains December 6, 2016 at 6:46 am #

      Janet, stop flaming up Civil War – the only possible outcome of the Electoral College vote sabotage.

    • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 9:15 am #

      wpa asoka bot

    • Dumbedup December 8, 2016 at 10:34 pm #

      Even if 38 electors switched their vote Congress will have the final say and Trump will be President. No way around it.

      A constitutional amendment may be necessary to keep this from happening again. I don’t favor direct vote because it would allow a handful of the most populous states to elect a President the rest of us do not want. But we could amend to constitution to say that to be elected President a candidate must have both the necessary Electoral votes plus the popular vote. Failure to get both will result in a single run-off of the top 2 candidates. After a run-off it goes to Congress.

  39. Pucker December 6, 2016 at 2:38 am #

    Multiple personality disorder?

    If you look closely, Hillary’s eyes are crooked.

    Did we ever figure out what neurological disorder Hillary has?


  40. FincaInTheMountains December 6, 2016 at 6:35 am #

    One of the over-200 websites labeled as “fake news” and “Russian propaganda” by so-called experts cited by the Washington Post is demanding a retraction and threatening a defamation lawsuit.


    It’s about freakin’ time somebody did that. Naked Capitalism asserts that their attorney, Jim Moody, “is a seasoned litigator who has won cases before the Supreme Court. He has considerable experience in First Amendment and defamation actions. Past high profile representations include Westomoreland v. CBS and defending Linda Tripp.”

    • FincaInTheMountains December 6, 2016 at 6:42 am #

      Apparently, Washington Post since the Watergate scandal specializes in high-profile public-opinion manipulation that leads to increase in international tensions and probability of the next big war.

    • Elrond Hubbard December 6, 2016 at 9:27 pm #


      You’re welcome!

  41. fodase December 6, 2016 at 9:35 am #

    I should zag in the upcoming unraveling

    the history of the world in the enlightened Western Hellenic republics (not so much the democracies) is one of overcoming unravelings.

    i wouldn’t worry too much, the unraveling feels like it’ll arrive when Jesus returns, so like never.

    • Dumbedup December 8, 2016 at 10:40 pm #

      Oh he’s coming back.

  42. Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 9:55 am #

    “The measure has not been passed by the Senate or signed into law yet, and the holiday recess may prevent that. But it is easy to see how it would empower the Deep State to shut down whichever websites they happened to not like. My reference to the Deep State might even imply to some readers that I’m infected by the paranoia virus. ”

    I would not describe it as a paranoia virus, but instead a paranoia antibody. The virus is here. The infection lingers.

    There is a presence here of a white power character, no, a white power caricature, that makes this entire blog susceptible to being labeled as a hate speech site, as intended. To make sure that most level-headed readers will steer clear, will click away, unwilling to associate with a site dripping with posts filled with racism, antisemitism, misogyny, and so on. No doubt, this is the goal of the particular persona, the entity, to flamboyantly embody all the attributes of a fascist white power hate monger. Then post thinly veiled hate incessantly and absurdly. Bigotry cloaked in erudition. How novel. Through sheer volume of posts alone it ensures that this site is blemished through its very participation. Ironically tolerance will be the downfall. Yet the irony does not stop there, for it is not even a legitimate racist being tolerated, but a caricature of one whose mission is to delegitimate the blog. Allowing almost entirely open and free speech is admirable, but it is important for one to recognize those that exploiting it as a weakness. When the hate speech filters inevitably come, it will not be enough to espouse tolerance, even tolerance of a deep-state infiltrator. Perhaps by then it will be too late as most reasonable people will have long stopped participating… leaving only the kooks, the haters, the avatars, the schizophrenics, and the inured-shell shocked.

    • elysianfield December 6, 2016 at 11:11 am #

      Kudos for a well-written, well thought out post. I agree that we should have gotten rid of that Goddamned Elrond the first time he posted his Canadian Swill.

      “Hate Speech”, as a pejorative, is a recent construct of the Politically Correct. I believe I recall Trump condemning PC thought in one of his stump speeches…perhaps the “filters” you reference will be long in coming.

      Bigotry cloaked in erudition…I thought that one precluded the other…or are buttons being pushed? Debate steered to cultural issues that cannot be voiced? Dark issues that cannot be argued in polite society? Or have we no issues in this country…a multi-cultural
      Nirvana? Kumbaya, my Lord, Kumbaya….

      • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 12:05 pm #

        Elrond is the living embodiment of the oversimplified naive apologist.

        Extremes run in both directions… regrettably.

        There are the extremes of PC and of hate.

        Both are abhorrent. Yet, in one, their ignorance summons feelings of pity and the other feelings of repugnance.

        Both marching on the laterals, the safe laterals, only one side to defend.

        The courageous hold the middle of the road casting the weak to the fringes.

        • elysianfield December 6, 2016 at 12:19 pm #

          Difficult to argue with your post, However…I am willing to listen to ANY position if posited intelligently.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 2:16 pm #

          Hate is natural. PC is just unnatural hate against one’s own fellow Whites. Even you hate, though perhaps not against your own people. I’m not convinced you’re White after all.

          • elysianfield December 6, 2016 at 6:23 pm #

            No rhythm, Check! Can’t dunk, Check! Good credit, Check! Short dick, Check!

            Yeah, I’m white….

          • Dumbedup December 8, 2016 at 11:17 pm #

            Hate is a natural human condition which leads to conflict and suffering. Civilization may advance in conflict but it also advances without conflict and suffering. Peace and love are also values of Christianity, but I’m sure you will find a reason to argue that it only applies to and among white people. Your views of race, force and morality simply do not comport with what Jesus taught. It is more preadamite.

        • Elrond Hubbard December 6, 2016 at 9:52 pm #

          Frankiti: “Elrond is the living embodiment of the oversimplified naive apologist.”

          Oversimplified? Do elaborate. What have I simplified, unto excess? Remember, one man’s naive apologist is another’s man of principle.

          Frankiti: “Both are abhorrent.”

          Stop it, I’m blushing!

          Frankiti: “Yet, in one, their ignorance summons feelings of pity and the other feelings of repugnance.”

          On the evidence of his posts, Janos reminds me of myself in many ways, with some overlap in our tastes (he’s deeply versed in Tolkien, for example). His bigotry is despicable, which is why I derive some satisfaction from baiting and riding him. But there are figures here even more pusillanimous (‘puny-souled’) than Janos in their way, including one who has called me a wigger and other nasty names because that one’s natural level apparently is the gutter. To give him his due, Janos at least puts forth effort.

          In general I’m not here for anyone’s approval; I’m here more or less to be confronted with opinions that are different from my own, so that I don’t forget that no one possesses all truth including me, and to stand up for what I believe in an open forum.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 2:07 pm #

      It’s too late Frank: We’ve made White survival cool. And as you know, that’s our culture’s version of the Victorian “respectable” or the East Asian “honorable”. You’ve already lost – you just don’t know it yet.

      I know better than to ask why you want White genocide. That’s like asking a fish about the ocean. You never questioned it: it’s just too much a part of you; it’s implicit in our whole system. It’s where “move on. com” is going. And you’re not going to contest this obvious fact, are you? The Canadian Government just made a race mixing video aimed at Whites. It’s not telling anyone else to blend themselves out of existence after all.


      It’s delicious: whenever we mention our concerns about White Genocide, the Liberal Establishment screams racism and tries to shut down the discussion. Why so sensitive if they have nothing to hide? This is awakening countless people.

      All things move in our favor. We are the seed of Yang in the Yin. We are the Crescent Moon waxing strong.

  43. Bro Jobe December 6, 2016 at 10:11 am #

    Careful, JHK. Under the Tweeting Man-Toddler, the Deep State will grow in direct proportion to El Jefe’s ego.

    And you, sir, may well end up on his list.

    We are in for disaster. Get ready.

  44. fodase December 6, 2016 at 10:27 am #

    There is a presence here of a white power character, no, a white power caricature, that makes this entire blog susceptible to being labeled as a hate speech site, as intended. To make sure that most level-headed readers will steer clear, will click away, unwilling to associate with a site dripping with posts filled with racism, antisemitism, misogyny, and so on.

    gosh, sorry your feelings are hurt, maybe we should ban certain speech because it’s offensive to you?

    get over yourself and your pussified feelings, speech is protected even if you don’t like it

    you US and A Americans are pussies of the most noblest sort

    maybe you oughta criticise blm, which openly calls for assassination. or la raza, whose very name indicates it’s a racist organisation in the truest sense of the word.

    maybe we oughta ban your anti-white speech? we find it offensive.

    your country was built by predominantly white peoples who have the most successful cultural traits and most advanced technology on the planet.

    you’re a fool not to recognise that and promote it.

    what you deem racist here is nothing more than the desire to see the good that white people have brought to the planet preserved and fostered, rather than destroyed by the barbarians who have nothing to offer.

    • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 11:55 am #

      What have you done, for the race? For humanity?

      I suppose you believe the giants won’t mind a layabout, do-nothing, never-was resting on, and cheering forth their labors, their exploits, from their shoulders.

      Racial welfare weighs heavy on them.

    • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 12:19 pm #

      Answer me this Fodase, do you believe that Messrs. Newton, Galileo, Planck, Darwin, and Tesla would rather carry on with you or Messrs. Einstein, Al Kwarizmi, Tyson, Shoujing, and any on the unnamed pre-columbian cosmologists?

      I’ll let you “think” on it for awhile.

  45. fodase December 6, 2016 at 12:46 pm #

    yes, frankiti, we’re all very impressed with your knowledge of names – most of the ones you cite are the bearers of Western enlightened science (de facto white for the most part).

    that’s just the point, so thank you for pointing that out

    regarding whether they’d want to speak to me, that’s a non sequitur

    for my part, though, i’ve only learned 5 languages (to the professional translation level), computer programming (mainframe and web), and have kids who’ve started million-dollar companies – because our white culture values education, striving, etc.

    i think you might get the picture if you “think” about it a bit

    • Cold N. Holefield December 6, 2016 at 1:17 pm #

      And I’m God, so prostrate (prostate if you’re Peter) yourself before me right now and beg for forgiveness. On The Internets, we can be anything we say we are, therefore, I’m God and you will worship no other False Gods.

      In otherwords, prove it or else quit claiming that which cannot be verified.

      • Q. Shtik December 6, 2016 at 1:47 pm #

        so prostrate (prostate if you’re Peter) yourself – Cold


        This shows you are paying close attention.

    • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 2:03 pm #

      I lived for a time in Europe, and met countless polyglots. Impressive, admittedly, but in time one comes to learn that their fluency is limited to their fluencies.

      Of course you’re impossibly successful, as are your heirs. As I said, this dimension, with anonymity, allows anyone to be anything. Even the hopeless.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 2:10 pm #

        Frank’s criteria of sophistication for Whites is a casual acquiescence to racial suicide. Are Jews White, Frank? Do you hold them to this as well?

        • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 2:31 pm #

          Like I said, a caricature. What time is it on the west coast?

  46. Cold N. Holefield December 6, 2016 at 1:23 pm #

    An Avatar said: Difficult to argue with your post, However…I am willing to listen to ANY position if posited intelligently.

    That’s his point. If it’s articulated eruditely, it prompts otherwise intelligent people to listen and consider it, but it’s NOT a position. Instead, it’s a purposeful deceit, and Claptrap, you’re considering and the jury’s still out as to whether you’re part of that purposeful deceiving. My guess is you are, and I would add that, in a sense, you are even if you’re not wittingly part of the Honey Pot Ruse. It only works if the Unwitting unwittingly play their part.

    • elysianfield December 6, 2016 at 6:34 pm #

      No ruse, I am an unwitting tool. Listening to any position does not in any way bode acceptance, but merely polite attention…it is that “open mind” thang that occasionally is mentioned in posts past. I listen to Janos, I listen to Janet, I listen to Kesa (or at least I try), and I listen to…you.

    • elysianfield December 6, 2016 at 7:06 pm #

      “but it’s NOT a position. Instead, it’s a purposeful deceit, and Claptrap.

      Examples, please of “purposeful deceit” on my part?

  47. fodase December 6, 2016 at 1:42 pm #

    You’re free not to believe, I won’t demand you be banned from expressing your opinion, like many of you out here would do.

    • malthuss December 6, 2016 at 1:57 pm #

      This is classic,

      To make sure that most level-headed readers will steer clear, will click away, unwilling to associate with a site dripping with posts filled with racism, antisemitism, misogyny, and so on.

      No doubt, this is the goal of the particular persona, the entity, to flamboyantly embody all the attributes of a fascist white power hate monger.

      Then post thinly veiled hate incessantly and absurdly.

      Bigotry cloaked in erudition. How novel. Through sheer volume of posts alone it ensures that this site is blemished through its very participation. Ironically tolerance will be the downfall.

  48. The problem of the fake news explosion is a function of the steadily worsening education standards over the last few generations.

    You take out Logic, because it offends the religious, what have you got?

    A population unable to reason and amenable to fantasy.

    The white America of the 1950s was a product of a white America of the 1920s, and so on. Examine a schoolbook from the era. Arithmetic in terms of trade and commerce. Literature in terms of philosophy and civics.

    Today, you can’t find Propositional Logic outside the college level.

    Society’s problem is you need Logic to evaluate claims and propositions and form cogent thoughts and arguments. Thus it is only until the college level where the project of unmaking a lifetime of malformed rationalizations and superstitions is unraveled- if that mind somehow stumbles onto the instruction.

    I don’t see a proliferation of common sense coming from a popular stock convinced that adults have a right and obligation to suppress children’s minds with nonsense and superstition. We’re on a down-slope with the bottom in sight. What does it look like?

    A guy with an AR-15 traveling over state lines to investigate fake news about a pedophile ring orchestrated by DNC actors, now wearing ankle restraints and a striped jumpsuit.

    I have no doubt there are millions more like him logging into the internet Bias Confirmation Machine. Later this month they’ll re-enact the rituals of the Dead Jew Cult. The affections of children will be earned with bribes of colorful toys made by hordes of exploited labor in SE Asia. No Logic is allowed in such a situation. The kids must be brainwashed and brainwashed completely.

    • malthuss December 6, 2016 at 1:55 pm #

      I will take the Dead Jew Cult over the Live jew Cult.

      • elysianfield December 6, 2016 at 6:39 pm #

        “Then post thinly veiled hate incessantly and absurdly”

        “I will take the Dead Jew Cult over the Live jew Cult.”

        Jesus, Malthuss, where is the thin veil?

        • malthuss December 6, 2016 at 8:59 pm #

          Jesus–is that a pun?
          If so +++++

    • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 2:13 pm #

      The “Fake News” meme is a desperate attempt at self defense by the Establishment Media after it’s been caught in countless lies. Only the Gullible will fall for it. Like you.

      • I find the Fake News phenomena to be credible- and myself, hardly gullible. I review real and fake news daily- I practically marinate in it. It affects me not at all, because I can sort bullshit from reality, thanks to an education that taught me how to think and reason in my 20s. Before that, I will fully admit I thought that nearly anything might be possible- “open-mindedness” was my mantra.

        I’m positive that the general public is much less equipped.

        Take human caused climate change vs. Pizza gate. Look at what these people, “skeptical” of mainstream media, willingly swallow (stories without attribution) while straining at proverbial gnats (well researched phenomena)?

        America has become a nation of reality-challenged individuals because we’ve made a virtue of “make believe”. Allergic to the standards of Hard questions, people accept Easy answers.

        Its negative effect is cumulative- we’re earning a negative dividend that gets bigger by the day for the sins of brainwashing children to believe that God and Satan are real beings and this life is just a disposable arena for supernatural beings to torture us in.

        Fake news is the natural adjunct for a population of adults with impaired reasoning ability. They log in- if at all- to validate, not reason.

        The people logging onto read infowars are getting full throttle BS. Clearinghouses like Zerohedge offer a shotgun blast of speculation. I mean, really, pumping Gold and creating hysteria for bear markets is con artistry of the oldest kind and only a sucker would act on such empty rhetorical chaff. As for Facebook and Twitter- of course they are full of misinformation and BS. It reflects the intellect of the mean.

        And what is the mean? The End times are near. Aliens in Roswell. The Government knows. These aren’t the “well informed populace” Jefferson considered essential to democracy.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 3:27 pm #

          Jefferson was against Democracy (it should be capitalized). How does a “well qualified” person like you not know that?

          The Global Elite are massively into pedophilia. The evidence is overwhelming. Do you deny Orgy Island and the Lolita Express too? Hillary might well have taken a trip or two herself.

          Tell us what you would like to do to Christians. This should be interesting. Don’t hold back – we already know. This is for you. We’re your therapy dogs.

          Jones and Infowars aren’t into the UFO stuff – at all. He lets on Icke on now and then because Icke is a Conspiracy Theorist. And Conspiracy or breathing together is the very stuff like is made of….

          • Christians deserve a good shunning.

            I’m aware that myriad crimes are perpetrated on children- it is perfectly OK to inflict corporal punishment on them. Also, they’re the ultimate underclass- Its okay to round them up, coerce them into education, dismiss their ideas and thoughts, and generally treat them in a blatant prejudicial manner. It is transparent that they are more or less chattel. Nowhere is this more evident in the control and manipulation into religious doctrine.

            Now, why should anyone be convinced that “Elite Global pedophilia rings” exist other than to establish “our” virtue vs. “theirs”?

            I reject all these claims until there is documentary proof- which I suspect will not be forthcoming. Just look at the proliferation of stories about it- in not too many pages it begins to be described as Satanic. Its no accident that Satan is invoked here: no one is more nervous than a Christian parent in the belief systems of their children. In these places, its do as I say or I’ll physically dominate you.

            This is just End of Times / evangelical propagandizing. Whipping the flock into a frenzy as it were.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 7:49 pm #

            Ah, nothing is wrong and all is permitted? Member of NAMBLA, I take it? Certainly a Satanist by any other name. Relativism taken absolutely is just that, since man’s lower nature will lead him to abominable acts as your has already lead you.

            And your desire to imprison and torture Christians removes all possible doubts. Thank you for your honesty, Grendel.

  49. K-Dog December 6, 2016 at 2:07 pm #

    I was digging into my fake news and not so fake news list following links a bit ago. The links I imported from ‘the list’ are a mix of old and new for me.

    At one point it seemed a soak in bleach would be appropriate so below the list I put an explanation and that perfumed things so a soak was un-necessary.

    For those who don’t know what I am talking about, just click K-Dog on top of this comment. My moniker is green because it is a link.

  50. fodase December 6, 2016 at 2:24 pm #

    Impressive, admittedly, but in time one comes to learn that their fluency is limited to their fluencies.

    yes, you are a belittling individual, likely low-performing, ergo you make litle of the talents – also known as very hard work – of others.

    by the way, how would you know that polyglots’ fluencies are ‘limited’, as you claim, unless you spoke the languages they speak and thereby had the ability to judge their abilities?

    or is your use of ‘fluencies’ referring to other abilities?

    • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 2:42 pm #

      Perhaps one of your many successful children have the patience to suffer the fool.

      I’m certain I expressed this sentiment before, but it bears repeating.

  51. fodase December 6, 2016 at 2:44 pm #

    yes, as we see repeatedly with you, you offer nothing of substance and take refuge in belittling others

    make your bed, lie in it

    success is wonderful, try it sometime

    • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 5:04 pm #

      Guilty as charged.

      I can’t seem to help myself. Please indulge me the occasional belittlement of racists, bigots, antisemites, misogynists, haters, charlatans, frauds, quacks, dupes, and dimwits.

      Like a weasel in the henhouse here.

  52. capt spaulding December 6, 2016 at 3:40 pm #

    When I first started following this blog, the main concern was peak oil. Since then it has morphed into a website that mainly concerns the views of fascists. I’m old enough that I have encountered most of the rhetoric espoused by the far right, and am bored enough to consign them to scrollover land. I am somewhat concerned by the fact that they appear to be gaining ground,however. No doubt there is a lot of high fiving going on in the ranks of the far right. In the course of history, there are endless examples of the degeneration of nations into chaos. This appears to be one of the examples of that. I believe that we are witnesses to history. No doubt this is good news to those who prefer to march in goose step, but for the rest of us it’s just a disaster. There’s no doubt in my mind that we are headed towards a huge clusterfuck.

    • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 5:06 pm #

      I started following when it was the kunstlercast. Suburban sprawl. Then came peak oil, now peak finance, and with it peak extremists burrowing in.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 6:09 pm #

        Obama was peak Negro and we’re approaching peak Jew – or perhaps we’re already past. You weren’t able to stop Trump even though you threw everything but the kitchen sink at him. We’re you in Times Square on Election night? The Silence was deafening – so, so beautiful when you people have nothing to say. O Night Divine.

        • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 7:18 pm #

          I was actually for Trump. You can reread past posts if you doubt. However, unlike you, I don’t believe him to be any late great hope. I only wanted him to destroy the Clinton machine , its media cohort, and the apparatchiks in perpetual orbit.

          Regrettably, your boy can’t seem to drain the swamp unless he believes adding more gators will swallow its waters.

          • thwack December 6, 2016 at 10:29 pm #

            The swamp monster is gonna drain the swamp?

            Yeah right.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 6:05 pm #

      Nope, you still don’t get it: Fascism IS Nationalism. We’ve been raped by the Globalists for your entire adult life. This is a desperate 11th hour to reverse that and save ourselves.

      So yeah, you’re damn right we’re congratulating ourselves. But it’s only a small beginning and we know that. We did influence the election and will have great influence in the years to come. But we must bring the People along slowly: most are utterly confused just like you are. Thus Trump’s bulldog, Kellyanne, serves us when she denies us.

  53. fodase December 6, 2016 at 4:35 pm #

    if you consider the far right to be respect for borders, language, culture, respect of/enforcement of the LAW, the lack of preferences based on colour, the endeavours to protect the nation’s workers through fair trade, respect for LEGAL immigration, rejection of ILLEGAL immigration, the lowering of taxes to spur economic growth…

    then i am proud to be what you are so dearly afraid of

    you seem to think there are legions of neo-nazis marching to the drums of war

    get a grip, people are just tired of isane loony left/globalism policies that only end up spreading misery

    don’t worry though, adults are about to assume the reins of power once more, thank the Lord

    • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 5:20 pm #

      You do know (of course you actually don’t, but politeness demands…) that everything you mentioned e.g., borders, language, culture, law, and even taxes are fluid, evolving, non-static?

      Even the lord, thankfully, can’t stop the laws of the universe.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 6:15 pm #

        Yes Frank, an Nation is an attempt to minimize or slow down the forces of Entropy. So is a garden, a ploughed field, a machine – anything and everything that Man is and does is AGAINST the natural order of just being an animal. And an animal is an organization that has risen above the plant level. And a plant is an organization that has risen above the mineral level…

        When Frank says Natural Order, he means the chaotic random quantum field. That’s his freedom. And some like Einstein thought it wasn’t random, that there were Laws even there…..

        Imagine what Einstein would have thought of someone trying to apply quantum chaos theory to human life! Bad philosophy on steroids.

        • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 6:20 pm #

          One is disgusted indeed with the ulcerated state which it presents of the human mind: but to cure an ulcer we must go to its bottom: & no writer has ever done this more radically than this one. The reflections into which he leads one are not flattering to our species. In truth I do not recollect in all the animal kingdom a single species but man which is eternally & systematically engaged in the destruction of its own species. What is called civilization seems to have no other effect on him than to teach him to pursue the principle of bellum omnium in omnia on a larger scale, & in place of the little contests of tribe against tribe, to engage all the quarters of the earth in the same work of destruction. When we add to this that as to the other species of animals, the lions & tigers are mere lambs compared with man as a destroyer, we must conclude that it is in man alone that nature has been able to find a sufficient barrier against the too great multiplication of other animals & of man himself, an equilibriating power against the fecundity of generation. My situation points my views chiefly to his wars in the physical world: yours perhaps exhibit him as equally warring in the moral one.

        • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 6:24 pm #

          Thing is, I never said ‘natural order’. Projecting again Vlad… tsk, tsk.

          You can’t stop time Vlad, not even you; a vampire caricature… on steroids.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 8:12 pm #

            You implied it though, by saying that reality is shifting and evolving and it’s pointless for us to try and protect our nation since reality is changing too quickly and all such efforts are pointless, like building sand castles below the tide line.

          • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 8:45 pm #

            Whar drives man’s frustrations?
            His angst? His motor? Ennui when change never seems to come, fear when it comes too fast.
            A slave trapped in a protective construct.
            Linear time. The drivers.

            Adaptation is not a chosen path, or a road taken. It favors the unknowable few over the many at times unknown and it never shows its cards.

            The ethereal was never slipping through your fingers.
            It’s never grasped.

            And not all your piety nor wit
            Shall lure it back to cancel half a line,
            Nor all your tears blot out a word of it.

        • malthuss December 6, 2016 at 9:03 pm #

          That was the dumbest post from Franki that I have suffered.

          After the doubling of the USA population since 1965 [we know what happened then] and how the USA has declined since then, due to that 3rd world influx, s/he shrugs it off with ‘flux’,
          well if a hurricane is flux, we are on the same page.

          • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 9:44 pm #

            Flux? Who said flux? You and foda se are two morons fighting over 1 brain cell

          • elysianfield December 6, 2016 at 10:49 pm #

            The moving finger writes, and haven writ, moves on….

  54. fodase December 6, 2016 at 5:39 pm #

    really? since when has the US border shifted? since when is speaking English in the United States ‘fluid’?

    since when is being an illegally entering immigrant not a violation of US law?

    it’s been a crime for decades. and has resulted in murders, rapes, illegal entry of thousands of tons of drugs.

    tell the families of the victims that these things are ‘fluid’.


    you’re a bright bulb, that’s for sure LOL

    ever think of running as a democrat?

    • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 6:01 pm #

      You know you’re a few points away from full ret@rd?

      The US border has shifted countless times since the late 18th century.
      You can probably find a cute time lapsed YouTube video geared towards the elementary aged to enlighten you.

      All language is fluid. Go seek tutelage from your local adjunct cognitive sciences professor.

      ‘A crime for decades’ I assume you’re aware that implies that laws change. There was a before, and there is an after.

      Thankfully, Prohibition is gone, the law was changed, and I am free to try and drink this brush with idiocy away.

  55. FincaInTheMountains December 6, 2016 at 6:43 pm #

    Janet’s gone, recount flopped, Hillary Clinton’s problem is not any longer internal matter of the United States.


    As for the betrayal of electors of the State voting results, the Constitution allows it, but if the Echelon system detects a material interest in the change of the electors’ mind, he will get serious hard and very long time.

    • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 7:28 pm #

      Not gone. never gone. Only to appear under a new name.
      Posting for the contrarian’s sake. Posting on west coast time. But still denying.

      It’s the mark of Cain and it stains Absalom, Asoka, Carol, WPA, Janet… a bot does what a bot does.

  56. FincaInTheMountains December 6, 2016 at 6:54 pm #

    Detroit’s half of the polling stations was unable to provide the ballots for recount, as discovered a huge difference in a data regarding the number of voters.

    But the most piquant detail is that in these areas Hillary Clinton won with a huge advantage, and if Russian hackers have influenced the election, it was totally drunk or fucked up Russian hackers.

    And Big Detroit is 4 million voters in northern Michigan, and if the above problem will be solved, then Donald Trump may have two million more votes.

  57. Cold N. Holefield December 6, 2016 at 7:19 pm #

    Oh please God, no, not another televised Trump Rally. Please, no. I can’t take this for four, or eight, more years. It’s like an hour long nasty, greasy fart. Why can’t he do Fire Side Chats like FDR or Jimmy Carter? I’m sure he can commission a tailor to custom make a special Cardigan for the occasion. Anything but these stupid fucking Rallies or whatever he, or they, call them. Maybe some Pole Dancing or Curling. I think Curling with Mad Dog and Flynn and the guy who shot up the Comet Ping Pong Pizza Place (what the fuck kind of name is this for a pizza place? what ever happened to names like Salvatore’s or Guiseppe’s) and Ben Carson and Purina Chao Chao would be cool and fun to watch. I can just see it — Mad Dog’s reaction if Chao Chao screws up — he’ll make her shit her pants, and imagine what Flynn will do to the Muslim hecklers in the audience, not to mention what Edgar M. Welch, who graduated top of his class by the way, will do to those eating pizza in the stands. In fact, I think Edgar M. Welch is as good a pick as any for Secretary of State. Why not? Do you have anyone better in mind?

    Alright, that’s enough for now, I have to go. Fucker Carlson’s on and no one makes me laugh more than that fucking little frat boy bootlicking cowardly bully prick.

    • FincaInTheMountains December 6, 2016 at 7:22 pm #

      They’ll all line up now in an as-kissing queue

    • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 7:32 pm #

      Tucker. Ole Tucker. Still looking like that lad from late 80’s Hampden-Sydney…

      • Cold N. Holefield December 6, 2016 at 7:39 pm #

        True. He’s like a Time Capsule. Like Trump going as himself to the Billionaire Mercer’s Heroes & Villains Party, Tucker goes as himself to 80’s Flashback Parties.

    • elysianfield December 6, 2016 at 10:54 pm #

      “…to drive your enemies from the field, and hear the lamentations of their women….”

      The Avatar

  58. FincaInTheMountains December 6, 2016 at 7:28 pm #

    I am totally drunk and fucked up Russian hacker tonight, sorry…

    • Cold N. Holefield December 6, 2016 at 7:35 pm #

      I assumed you were that, and more, every night….and day, so your confession is not a surprising revelation, but thanks for sharing anyway.

  59. Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 7:52 pm #

    Politics doesn’t matter? If there’s only so much and too many people are lining up, it matters. Who gets to go first? First come, first served is the Western way. But affirmative action puts non-Whites in front of us.

    Look what they’re doing to Pew Die Pie:


  60. Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 7:55 pm #

    If I have six Black slaves and give Frank three, how many do I have? I shouldn’t have any you say? That’s not the question. I should give the rest of them to Frank? That’s not the answer either.

    Ok then, how many does Frank have? Six? That means you stole my three while I was talking. The answer was three. How did Frank get all six?

  61. Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 8:25 pm #

    Japs to invest fifty billion with a possible fifty thousand jobs coming too. Trump has already done more than Obama ever did. It’s so easy for him because he’s the right man for the job. Trump Towers is the de facto White House and Obama is revealed as uncaring and/or incompetent even as he still resides there.

    • malthuss December 6, 2016 at 9:06 pm #

      I am sure many strings will be attached to that.
      Why have foreign ‘investors?’

      The Government Inc can print currency. And get rid of The Fed.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 7, 2016 at 5:53 am #

        Well, good question and one beyond this blog. I would tend to agree: trade is with other countries is one thing, but having them set up inside your country is something else again. Or own huge parts of your country and end up an economic colony.

        I don’t know what the plan here is. The Japanese are famous for setting up factories in White areas though, good for them and good for us, at least for now.

  62. Cold N. Holefield December 6, 2016 at 8:53 pm #

    I didn’t watch Orange Julius blabbing on incessantly about the same old shit. Instead, I watched The Office, which is a documentary, by the way. Most people think it’s comedy, but it’s actually quite representative of working in a corporate office environment.

    However, I did tune back to Fox and then CNN afterwards, and they were talking to reporters in the North Carolina auditorium where Orange Julius gave his “speech” and they were playing this in the background. I mean, what the fuck? From the album Let It Bleed. Actually, it’s quite appropriate, considering, I guess.

    You Can’t Always Get What You What

  63. bibliomaniac December 6, 2016 at 9:21 pm #

    News Flash: Trump scorched the pizza in pizzagate and the cooker lost his dough.

  64. Cold N. Holefield December 6, 2016 at 9:26 pm #

    “Bob Dole knows Emolument.”

    Seriously, Bob Dole? I thought he was dead already. Who’s going to advise Trump next? Andrew Jackson? Is he dead yet? I think so, but then again, I thought Dole was dead and here they Roll Dull out in his wheel chair like it’s Weekend at Bernie’s. Like I said in my blog post, this is a Bad Bad Bad Bad Bad Acid Trip, and it’s not even the end of the beginning yet.

    Rachel Maddow is knocking it out of the park. If only she was as critical of Obama & The Dems as she is of Trump & The Repubs, then maybe I’d have a little more respect for her.

    • Elrond Hubbard December 6, 2016 at 10:46 pm #

      Cold: “If only she was as critical of Obama & The Dems as she is of Trump & The Repubs, then maybe I’d have a little more respect for her.”

      Cenk Uygur tried that when he was at MSNBC, and he got called into his bosses’ office for a little chat. To his eternal credit, he was more interested in honesty and integrity than money and access, so he left and did his own thing. Maddow is very entertaining, but she prefers money and access.

      Now he gets to hang out with Ana Kasparian, whose collarbones I am not worthy to drool over. *sigh*

      • Cold N. Holefield December 7, 2016 at 7:49 am #

        Yeah, Maddow’s Tough As Nails, but she’s not Fair & Balanced. Hell, I’d put her up against Mad Dog Mattis any day. She’d kick his fucking ass. Mad Dog Maddow sounds better too.

        I’m guessing Mattis doesn’t get much sleep. His constant vigilance and enduring obligation to support the shredded Constitution doesn’t allow for sleep, hence the tremendous bags under his eyes. Can you imagine this guy’s poor wife? What her life must be like with this Nutjob? The Great Santini comes to mind, but it’s probably ten times worse than that. “You want The Fucking Truth, BITCH??? You can’t handle The Truth!!! I ordered The Fucking Code Red (which is two eggs over easy)!!!!”

        Is Mad Dog Mattis A Marsupial?

        • elysianfield December 7, 2016 at 11:00 am #

          ” Can you imagine this guy’s poor wife…”

          Mattis never married…in the Corps, if they want you to have a wife, they would issue you one.

          The Avatar

          • Cold N. Holefield December 7, 2016 at 11:05 am #

            Thanks for that information, Avatar. I’m happy to hear he never married. One less case of spousal abuse is cause to celebrate.

  65. pkrugman December 6, 2016 at 9:45 pm #

    “Are Jews White, Frank?” asked janos. Yes, and it is good news the number of Jews Donald Trump has chosen to surround him, both in Trump’s Deepening Deep State campaign, and in his imaginary cabinet. Trump is giving high recognition to whites in his choices of Jews.

    For example, just to mention a few prominent Jews Trump has chosen: Michael Glassner, Lewis Eisenberg, Steven Mnuchin, Stephen Miller, Boris Epshteyn, Jared Kushner, David Friedman, Jason Greenblatt, etc.

    And, of course, Judaism is part of Donald’s inner family circle. Ivanka is a convert to Orthodox Judaism. Donald has also spoken fondly about having Jewish grandchildren. I am so glad to see Trump’s openness to Jewish advisors, and Jewish children, and Judaism’s humanistic values. We need more Jewish involvement in our government, and we need Jewish intelligence in general, now more than ever.

    All this is a pleasant turn of events in CFN. Remember that CFN’s host is also a Jew. It is good to see so many here supporting Judaism by supporting both JHK and DJT.

    • nsa December 6, 2016 at 9:59 pm #

      Think of it as a new TalmudVision reality show called Jooies Gone Wild.

      • Frankiti December 6, 2016 at 10:06 pm #

        Another one rears its ugly head.
        Heracles had a sword and a torch… I’ll just let y’all stumble over your selves.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 10:38 pm #

          You just outed yourself.

          • malthuss December 7, 2016 at 12:48 pm #

            as who or what?

    • Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 10:37 pm #

      So you’re saying Jews are more intelligent than other people? And how is that not racist? Or are they just more intelligent than other Whites but not more intelligent than Blacks? In other words, a is greater than b, and b is greater than c, but a is not greater than c.

      Or are you going beyond this contradiction to say that Jews are smarter than everyone but it’s not racist because they’re magic. It’s only racist when Whites are or say they are.

      Ivanka just married Jared for his money and vice versa. She doesn’t like the Orthodoxy because it cramps her style. Her religion is money. So is Jared’s I assume. The best Trumps are Trump and Don Jr. Melania is alright too.

      • thwack December 7, 2016 at 10:23 am #

        “Melania” sounds like a black girls name,; I bet her resume’ often ended up in the trash can with Dayshawn, Laqueesha and Quwanntravious…

        Whats her middle name?

        • Q. Shtik December 7, 2016 at 1:03 pm #


      • Frankiti December 7, 2016 at 4:46 pm #

        1) No.
        2) Hmm.. because I didn’t say that, and perhaps because “Jew” is not a race?
        3) No and No
        4)No and No
        5I I don’t presume to know about the the marriages and relationships of other people.
        6) If you say so, if you say so…

  66. Janos Skorenzy December 6, 2016 at 10:19 pm #

    Look what they did to the famous “Pistachio Girl”, Emily Youcis, simply because of his support for her people.


    Q will probably recognize her voice from watching “the games”. If only we had real gladiatorial games instead of this pussy shit. Then I’d be a big fan. After all, what do people love the most? The fights. So why do people keep pretending to want to see a ball game? And the ball is made out of pigskin – a clear offense to Muslims that keeps Muslims out of becoming players. And if it’s made out of leather, that will be offensive to Hindus.

  67. janet December 6, 2016 at 10:42 pm #

    Now that Republicans have control of Congress it is interesting that they have abandoned their six-year long jihad against Obamacare. Instead of “repeal and replace” which they have said over and over again that was what they are going to do, now they are not going to do it. Now Obamacare stays for two or three years more. Now, instead of “repeal and replace” Republicans plan to proceed with a “repeal-and-delay” strategy … Obamacare stays.

    Under such a strategy, Republicans would eliminate the Affordable Care Act’s funding using the budget “reconciliation” process, where Democrats can’t filibuster and where Republicans can thus proceed with a narrow majority. But the reconciliation bill would allow the money for Obamacare’s coverage expansion to flow for another two or three years. Obamacare stays.

    In theory, this would give Republicans time to craft a replacement, while making sure the more than 20 million people now using Obamacare for coverage wouldn’t lose their insurance. Obamacare stays. They never had a replacement all those six years of repeating “repeal and replace.” They’ve got nothing. Obamacare stays.

  68. janet December 6, 2016 at 11:49 pm #

    “you just outed yourself” says Janos. I’m just saying Jews have made contributions to humanity far in excess of their numbers because they are smart and we need intelligence to confront our problems.

    I am not saying anybody else is dumb. I am saying Jews are smart and have benefited everyone tremendously. Not just because the greatest thinkers were Jewish (Marx, Freud, Einstein, Spinoza, Wittgenstein, Husserl, etc.) And some of the great thinkers were Jewish women, such as Hannah Arendt, Ayn Rand, etc.

    Jewish greatness has been demonstrated again and again and is internationally recognized. There is plenty of evidence to back up that statement.

    For example, Nobel Prizes have been awarded to over 870 individuals, of whom 185 … over 21.264% … were Jewish or people of Jewish descent, although Jews and people of Jewish descent comprise less than 0.2% of the world’s population (or 1 in every 500 people).

    21% far exceeds 0.2% by a factor of … you do the math. Trump is smart to draw on Jewish intelligence by adding so many Jews to his administration. I don’t think that is a controversial statement.

    I am praising Trump and expressing admiration for his openness to Jewish thinkers, Jewish politicians, etc. … it’s a good thing, janos. Give Trump credit for choosing so many Jews, for going to some of the smartest people around to make American great again, namely for going to the Jews.

    By the way, there are white Jews like Ivanka, there are Caucasian Jews (also known as Juhuro, Juvuro, Kavkazi Jews or Gorsky Jews of the eastern and northern slopes of Caucasus), there are Black Jews, there are Arab Jews, there are Latino Jews, there are Asian Jews, there are Persian Jews, etc. … so don’t try to make it a race thing, janos. Just own up to your antisemitism. And get over it … support Trump choosing so many Jews for his administration.

    • elysianfield December 7, 2016 at 11:09 am #

      “I am not saying anybody else is dumb. I am saying Jews are smart”

      If all other groups are also be considered smart, then your statement is a platitude.

  69. Q. Shtik December 7, 2016 at 12:10 am #

    Happy Pearl Harbor Day!!

  70. Pucker December 7, 2016 at 12:59 am #

    Who says that Americans can’t compete?! American Prison Labor is highly competitive.

  71. Pucker December 7, 2016 at 1:04 am #

    I heard that Fidel Castro’s 1956 Hearse broke down—No spare parts.

  72. Buck Stud December 7, 2016 at 2:12 am #

    His voice emerged lone and singularly from an enraptured, sonorous amplification:

    “And you and I reach over the sun for the river”

    Yes indeed, Steve Howe—yes indeed…

    It was enough then, and enough now, to make a person want to “walk the good road to the Day of Quiet.” …that magical place that still lives loudly, inside.

  73. KesaAnna December 7, 2016 at 4:56 am #

    When I was a 12 year old girl, living in an urban area, you could leave your house, wander around for an hour , or more, and maybe see one police cruiser, if that.

    Now , at 48, I live in an extremely rural area ( i.e. a 30 minute drive to a grocery store ) and you can’t leave your house for 15 minutes without seeing one, or two, or three, police cruisers.

    I’m not going to bother to ask why a place that has not even a bowling alley, and more goats and pigs than people, needs battalions of police.

    It couldn’t possibly be, that at a time when even the college grads are hurting , this investment in force is bat shit crazy ?

    Noo, I’m terribly unfair .

    Suffice to say then that I am very glad the election is over , and police shootings have gotten boring .
    Kunstler is back to writing interesting stuff. ( Which stuff doesn’t undercut his own good ideas. )

    • KesaAnna December 7, 2016 at 4:58 am #

      * battalions of police AND armored personnel carriers , I kid you not.

      • Elrond Hubbard December 7, 2016 at 9:02 am #

        Better get out there and arm the deer with AR-15s. Level the playing field.

    • thwack December 7, 2016 at 11:10 am #

      You are very lucky K.

      What they are doing is called “having a presence” and it is a very effective low cost, low impact way to deter criminal activity.

      I don’t have a dog, but I have a large dig house in my back yard for the same reason.

    • malthuss December 7, 2016 at 12:37 pm #

      1965. What happened that year?
      What was USAs population then?

      What was the percent of non Whites, then?
      What was the number of non Whites in USA then?

      Obama wanted to nationalize the Police. Why?
      Why are the police militarized?
      Why TANKS for small town police?
      Have you seen the photo comparison of ‘Mayberry Police and Swat Team?’ Very telling.

  74. FincaInTheMountains December 7, 2016 at 5:02 am #

    There was an unprecedentedly harsh statement by the Russian Ministry of Defense in connection with the shelling of a Russian field hospital in Aleppo by “moderate” terrorists on a tip from the likely allies, who were informed of the hospital coordinates due to the fact that the United States officially take part in military operations in Syria as allies, suggests that after this incident, Putin phoned Trump and warned him that Russia can no longer take into consideration who is killing its citizens – Clinton supporters or Trump supporters, and no information will be shared with Americans anymore.

    And if Donald Trump does not want to start his presidency with war, to avoid devastating friendly fire in response to a friendly fire triggered by “mistake” or due to “ignorance of the location” or God forbid downing aircraft in Syria should not happen again.

    I would not be surprised if he warned him that for crimes of this magnitude someone will still have to answer, and if the US does not want to answer for the crimes of Hillary Clinton, they’ll have to put her on trial, and not only for Benghazi.

    So no pardons!

  75. Cold N. Holefield December 7, 2016 at 7:06 am #

    What will be Trump’s Pearl Harbor? Every great Republican President has his New Pearl Harbor as legislated by PNAC. Trump will be no different. Any guesses? Something involving China since they’re presaging it? What fun it will be. One thing you can always count on like the Rising Sun is Perpetual War and Perpetual War requires justifications and a Mainstream Media interested in maximizing Ad Revenue salivates at the possibility of covering, 24/7, the New Pearl Harbor and the ensuing War. What a great System — Saturn devouring his Son in perpetuity like a Broken Record.

    The Horror. The Horror.

  76. KesaAnna December 7, 2016 at 7:38 am #

    ” I listen to Kesa (or at least I try), ”

    I very much doubt it.

    I have been in regular, weekly, one-on-one correspondence with a successful lawyer in Sweden, originally from Japan, for whom English is a fourth language, for 7 years.
    She isn’t lesbian, and as I said, she’s a successful lawyer, I’m rock-bottom poor . She has never so much as tried to sell me a paper clip. As I said, it’s one-on-one , there is no audience, save me, to impress .
    Indeed , if anything, I would say that even as charity her seven years association with me might be seen as such to make her look bad.

    So, no, I doubt it.

    It looks to me very much like a cold-blooded tactic that was already old and stale in 8th grade.

    • elysianfield December 7, 2016 at 11:17 am #

      Your posts, the longer ones, appear to be “stream of thought” generated…a bit disjointed and difficult to follow a point being made.

      I am glad your lawyer friend is not a lesbian.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 7, 2016 at 1:59 pm #

        Kesa’s insight/visions vindicate her poor reasoning in her own mind. Whereas they invalidate them in the minds of others. Both are wrong. Her vision is often sound and her thinking is usually the typically confused feminine anecdote and vitriol and thus mostly utterly wrong.

        Kesa is an intelligence test for others: can you use her effectively? Ultimately all of life is just such an intelligence test.

  77. fodase December 7, 2016 at 7:41 am #

    Mr. Trump creates 50,000 new jobs for Americans.


    Thank you Mr. President for actually representing Americans.

    This is what is achieveable when you act in your own self-interest in a rational manner.

    So it’s Ford, Apple, Carrier, and now 50K new jobs.

    And the man hasn’t even been sworn in yet.

    Hard to criticise success.

    • Cold N. Holefield December 7, 2016 at 8:00 am #

      Any day now I expect you to start providing us with Daily Success Briefs about his Bowel Movements. In ancient Japan, they had Servants collect The Emperor’s Stool Sample every day so the Emperor’s Personal Physician could inspect it for disease. I think it would be a Great Honor for you to be that Servant who collects Emperor Orange Julius’s Stool Sample for Dr. Abe Sapirstein to inspect. I look forward to your reports and I’m crossing my fingers you get the job.

      • Cold N. Holefield December 7, 2016 at 8:01 am #

        Sorry, that was Ancient China, not Ancient Japan, but the point’s still the same.

        • elysianfield December 7, 2016 at 11:20 am #

          “Sorry, that was Ancient China, not Ancient Japan, but the point’s still the same.”

          Yeah, we all saw the movie…”less salt”. Can you remember the name of the movie? I will give you a hint…”The Last Emp****”

          The Avatar

          • Cold N. Holefield December 7, 2016 at 11:29 am #


            Interesting you say “we.” Who or what comprises this mysterious “we?” Are you referring to your colleagues in the surrounding cubicles there at headquarters? Considering Finca’s alleged background, there’s no way he saw it, but since I know Finca’s alleged background isn’t who Finca really is, there’s a good chance Finca is part of your “we” and did in fact see it.

            Considering that, let me take a stab at the movie’s title.

            The Last Employee Turns Out The Lights

            Is that it? Otherwise, I don’t know.

          • elysianfield December 7, 2016 at 3:07 pm #

            “The Last Employee Turns Out The Lights”

            Good answer, and very close. We (The Imperial We?) are those of us who can afford cable/satellite. It ain’t TEEVEE, it’s HBO….

    • Janos Skorenzy December 7, 2016 at 2:08 pm #

      Yes, it must be very offensive to President Obama, showing him up as what he is: uncaring and/or incompetent. But the situation is too dire to wait until the inauguration. Hit the ground running? Trump is leaping twenty feet with each stride – like we all do in our dreams of godhood. And for those who have never dreamed thus – I pity thee.

      Kesa dreams like this all the time. Waking up is so hard for such dreamers. I know it well. Lovecraft’s “The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath” is well trodden ground for us even if we have never read it. Now we seek to make the Earth more like Kadath. God help those who get in our way.

      I know Trump well in that other world. He voted for me there and I voted for him here.

  78. fodase December 7, 2016 at 8:02 am #

    yes, you know-nothings only criticise and have nothing of substance to say. oftentimes you try to masque it by trying to write something clever-sounding.

    just stay in your underachiever corner and keep quiet while the adults
    actually get things done.

  79. fodase December 7, 2016 at 8:04 am #

    Ah, let’s see – 50 Billion dollars in investment money coming INTO the country and 50,000 jobs.

    The only fool in this conversation, sir, is you if you think that is a bad thing.

    That’s more than Obama did in eight years of doing everything in his power to rip the country apart and “fundamentally change” it.

    and Trump isn’t even President yet – time for you get back on your meds.

    *tip of the hat to the above borrowed retort*

    • Cold N. Holefield December 7, 2016 at 8:25 am #

      Yeah, I already covered that and there is plenty of substance in my analysis. Trump is selling off America. It’s not an Investment, it’s an Ownership Stake. When it’s all said and done, I hope Trump is arrested for Treason. As far as I’m concerned, he should have already been charged for Treason but there’s still time, hopefully, but I kinda doubt it

      To The Highest Bidder

    • cbeard December 7, 2016 at 8:56 am #

      This link is for any motorcycle enthusiast such as myself. I don’t know if this ad is for real or a politically incorrect gotcha. But it is hilarioushttp://d1l4i7f87txqmq.cloudfront.net/Images/Legend%20Gear/SW-MOTECH%20Africa%20Twin%20Parts%20List%202.pdf

  80. janet December 7, 2016 at 10:05 am #

    “just stay in your underachiever corner and keep quiet while the adults
    actually get things done.” –fodase

    Let’s celebrate Trump choosing so many Jewish adults for his hope filled government. Trump’s Jews are not underachivers. They will make America great again. Trump’s actions recognize Jewish greatness. Support Donald and Ivanka and Jared and celebrate Trump’s openness to Judaism and Jews. Mazel tov!

  81. janet December 7, 2016 at 10:16 am #

    “That’s more than Obama did in eight years ” says fodase.

    Except for Obama’s bailout that saved one million jobs in the automotive industry. Oh, then there were 805,000 private sector manufacuring jobs created through Obama’s economic policies.
    Kind of dwarfs a few hundred saved jobs (with zero new jobs created) by Trump.

    But Trump’s deal, his drama… that kind of governing by gimmick instead of national policy, that kind of stunt just reconfirms Donald’s greatness when it comes to narcissistic self promotion (redundancy intended).

  82. fodase December 7, 2016 at 11:08 am #

    yes, obama was great for the economy, which is why 35% of the labour force gave up looking for work, economic growth was paltry, regulations put millions out of work, donna brazile admitted in a leaked email that the jobs being created were shitty minimum wage, people were spending half their income on rent.

    you get the picture.

    $50 billion dollars, plus all the wonderful knock-on effects from 50,000 jobs, and the Man hasn’t even been sworn in yet.

    obama will go down as the vile anti-american who did everything in his power to divide and ruin the nation

    thankfully, America always rises up in righteousness

    the People have spoken, and Mr. Trump is the Man who is righting the mess the insane lefties wrought on the US and A

    • thwack December 7, 2016 at 11:20 am #

      For black people, Obama was like the Tee-shirt you get when your parents come back from their luxury vacation.

      You didn’t get to go; but now you can pretend you did.

      • malthuss December 7, 2016 at 12:43 pm #

        Nice one. It is known as ‘Reflected Glory.’

      • Janos Skorenzy December 7, 2016 at 2:13 pm #

        An old Black and White TV. Mandela didn’t like American Blacks either. I used to work with African guys: they put White racists to shame with their loathing of American Blacks. Great people, but they all have to go back. Their kids will be just more American Blacks. And rap is the soundtrack of Kali Yuga.

    • capt spaulding December 7, 2016 at 3:30 pm #

      Fodase, to use your choice of words, how was George W Bush great for the economy? Him & his Republican buddies almost destroyed the US. Somehow you people are able to conveniently forget the past, and the clusterfuck that followed. Not that I love Obama, but he wasn’t nearly as fucked up as “W”, and his Republican buddies, and here they are back again.

  83. Cold N. Holefield December 7, 2016 at 12:09 pm #

    Here’s why I don’t like you Avatar and why I don’t trust you and why I think you’re a bully & a coward. You used the word “we.” That’s what bullies do — they try to isolate their targets and then appeal to the authority of the crowd. I have no friends here Avatar so I don’t think in terms of “we.” It’s just me, and I’ll take any god damned one of you at any time if you’re willing to do it without weapons and without each other. I would never, and I mean never, comment to a site that any Real Life acquaintances comment to because I don’t want the two worlds to collide and because I would never gather with my friends to gang up on people in a comments section in order to control the dialogue.

    Pursuant to Frankiti’s theory about certain avatars, Pizzagate was mentioned 31 times in the last thread, and then, what do you know, Edgar Welch decides to be a “Patriot” and conduct his own investigation and bring the culprits to Justice. Anyone want to guess who supported the dissemination of the Pizzagate Story?

    I believe Frankiti’s theory has much merit, but to be honest, Frankiti, since we’re rediscovering Men and integrity is a large part of that discovery process, Carol Newquist was me, not those others.

    This February will be three years that I’ve been Cold N. Holefield and three years since I started my blog. I’ve been that nom de plume and only that nom de plume. I learned from that war several years ago and I’ve grown stronger & wiser because of it.

    • malthuss December 7, 2016 at 12:43 pm #

      Carol Newquist was me, not those others. !!!!!!!!!

      Are you a man or a woman?

      • Cold N. Holefield December 7, 2016 at 2:04 pm #

        I know you’re not a Man. Cowards are not Men. You’re a Coward. Therefore, you are not a Man.

        This malthuss punk avatar is one of the avatars that promulgated the the Fake Pizzagate Story in the last blog post. It’s the height of irony since the blog post is entitled The Rediscovery of Men. But, it’s to be expected. It’s Donald Trump’s America now, or will be January 20th absent a miracle.

        • malthuss December 7, 2016 at 7:27 pm #

          you are an idiot,

          Podesta has several pieces of ‘art’ sourced [wont say inspired] by Dahmer


          • malthuss December 8, 2016 at 1:43 am #

            Heirliberty1 hour ago YOU TUBE

            Besta Pizza has already changed their logo on their website.

            The owner of Besta Pizza is Andrew Kline, a human trafficking investigator for the DOJ appointed by President Bill Clinton.

            Next door to Terasol is Beyond Borders. A charity committed to ending human trafficking in Haiti. Pedophiles commonly use Childrens charities to gain access to children.

    • elysianfield December 7, 2016 at 3:22 pm #

      Cold N. Holefield
      December 5, 2016 at 1:02 pm #

      Oh, I see. If Hillary is somehow miraculously sworn in January 20th, WE will still have our pensions, our social security, our medicare, our TriCare… WE will still have any entitlement the Republicans have been dreaming of stripping since FDR.

      Butt, and this is an awfully BIG BUTT, WE will most assuredly not have our asses.

      Thanks, Janet. WE can rest easy now, just so long as WE don’t try to sit on our soon to be non-existent asses if Hillary is miraculously sworn in on January 20th instead of Trump.

      Courtesy of The Avatar

  84. Cold N. Holefield December 7, 2016 at 2:09 pm #

    I have a new blog post up. It’s a good one. I think you’ll enjoy it. Or, at least, what few Men there are here will enjoy it. Those who have no idea what a Man is and have no inclination to rediscover Men won’t get it, for all the obvious reasons.

    Grab That Pussy!!!!!

    • Janos Skorenzy December 7, 2016 at 2:18 pm #

      Trump grabbed life by the pussy. That’s why he won. As for the women, he never called them back. That’s why they’re mad: they want to be Melania. They want to be Mrs Donald J Trump.

      • malthuss December 7, 2016 at 3:37 pm #

        ‘Alan Dershowitz involved now! That creep makes me believe there is evidence of thrush here, as he is king of the liars, despicable apologist for criminal acts and crimes against humanity like genocide in a Israel!!! He is worst of worst!?’


        • malthuss December 7, 2016 at 3:38 pm #

          PIZZA GATE
          Haiti Investigator killed, 2016

          So what sort of “new lead” would warrant senior levels of government being in the loop on a missing child case?

          “SCOTLAND Yard has been given more money to probe an “important” new lead in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.
          The development is being taken so seriously that senior Whitehall officials have been briefed by the Met on its progress.”

          Scotland Yard given extra funding to probe ‘important’ new lead over theory that Madeleine McCann was kidnapped by trafficking gang
          http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … -gang.html

          Cops probing tip that Madeleine McCann was snatched by gang of people traffickers after they took pictures of her
          https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2323187/c … es-of-her/

      • malthuss December 7, 2016 at 7:19 pm #

        Podesta has several pieces of ‘art’ sourced [ I wont say inspired] by serial killer, Dahmer


  85. FincaInTheMountains December 7, 2016 at 2:31 pm #

    Japanese conglomerate SoftBank has decided to invest $50 billion into the US economy and the creation of 50 thousand jobs in the US, as SoftBank leader told Trump during a personal visit.


    This suggests that the Japanese elite is very serious about Trump administration concept, which boils down to the simple fact that anyone wishing to use services of now privatized security company, formerly known as “Pentagon” will have to pay, and pay the highest rate.

    The visit of the heir of one of the largest Japanese companies to Trump with a check for $50 billion is the “first installment” on the contract. It is very likely that Beijing reads the situation in a similar light.

    • malthuss December 7, 2016 at 3:46 pm #

      Or that they want out. Fukushima-ed.

      • FincaInTheMountains December 7, 2016 at 4:27 pm #

        Security export is the future of BIG BUSINESS and bada-big money.

        Russian advertising campaign in Syria is going very well, thank you very much.

  86. fodase December 7, 2016 at 3:37 pm #

    yessir, alpha male, gets things done, doesn’t jetset around the planet for photo ops and unearned awards and let Americans die in libya

    so, we’re at 51,000 “saved or created” jobs with The Donald 5 weeks before he’s sworn in.

    plus at least $50 billion in investment.

    you know, pretty soon those numbers will be significant.

    lefties shut your pie holes, we know you’re incapable of valueing what your Commander in Chief is “doing for the country”, a concept you’re incapable of understanding

    • malthuss December 7, 2016 at 3:50 pm #

      50 billion and 21 trillion are 2 very different sums.

      • FincaInTheMountains December 7, 2016 at 4:19 pm #

        As we used to say in Odessa: hen pecks grain by grain – and look, the whole yard is in shit

  87. Frankiti December 7, 2016 at 4:53 pm #

    Trump is out draining the swamp, and draining the institutions of higher bureaucracy AKA war colleges of adjunct professors.

    How many washed-up generals whose last resume bullet-point highlighted lost wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.. is he going to “appoint”?

  88. fodase December 7, 2016 at 5:05 pm #

    yes, those who can’t do, criticise

    Score: Trump $50 billion
    Critics: $0

    haha, you’ve got no arguments against success, you’re on kapernick’s losing side

  89. FincaInTheMountains December 7, 2016 at 5:16 pm #

    The outgoing Congress, as now it appears almost completely formed by Hillary Clinton supporters a year ago, finally allowed the US president to supply Syrian rebels with portable antiaircraft complexes.


    And it is not clear who they were trying to piss off in the first place: Russia or Trump? Trump hardly will supply MANPADS to terrorists who had just fired at a Russian hospital, because these MANPADS can also be used on civil aircraft including in the US itself, where Bastinda managed under the guise of refugees bring personal to man those complexes, but still this resolution will create a lot of trouble for newly elected President.

  90. fodase December 7, 2016 at 5:42 pm #

    DOW set to hit 20,000


    yet another victory for Our Glorious Leader President Trump

    • Frankiti December 7, 2016 at 6:03 pm #

      During a platform dive, the apex of the diver ‘s arc is the greatest height reached… before the inevitable splash.
      Although attempts are made to mitigate, there is always a splash.

      Some people call it a run-up, but in platform diving there is no run-up. It’s as if suddenly the diver went from near motionlessness to great heights.. to under water.

  91. janet December 7, 2016 at 6:50 pm #

    “yet another victory for Our Glorious Leader President Trump” –fodase

    Yes, it is truly amazing. Unemployment below 5%, millions of jobs created, dollar is strong, economy growing at 3%, etc. And Trump has not even taken office.

    Who has been president for the last eight years? Maybe some credit goes to him?

  92. janet December 7, 2016 at 6:58 pm #

    “if Hillary is miraculously sworn in on January 20th instead of Trump” –Elysianfield

    If Hillary becomes president, what are you, personally, going to do? Nothing. And no will anyone else. It doesn’t matter who is president, red or blue, remember? How soon WE forget…

    • Q. Shtik December 7, 2016 at 10:07 pm #

      If Hillary becomes president, what are you, personally, going to do? – janet


      I’m trying to decide between:

      1. Move to Iceland
      2. Kill myself

    • elysianfield December 8, 2016 at 11:14 am #

      That statement is one The Avatar is quoting from “Cold”. What would I do? Continue laying in food and preparing for the zombie apocalypse…not really. Already done that! I would continue fashioning my tin-foil hat and do my best to choke down my fear and loathing as you and your many consorts on this site held hands (metaphorically) and sang “Kumbaya” ad nauseum.

  93. dolph9 December 7, 2016 at 9:36 pm #

    I hate to remind you useful idiot Trump supporters here, but Trump isn’t going to do anything about immigration. He is a billionaire and the American capital system is dependent on an expanding supply of cheap labor.

    And if you do shut off the supply of Hispanic and Asian immigrants, who is going to do the work? Jews? Actors? These people haven’t done a day’s work in their lives.

    Not to mention that you still have the black problem to deal with, in perpetuity.

    Sorry, Trump won’t change anything.

  94. bibliomaniac December 7, 2016 at 9:45 pm #

    Jane Stillwater writes about “Red State, Blue State, Deep State”, in a recent article in “Buzzflash”:

    “what is different from past American presidential elections …is that for the first time since Truman the Deep State seems to be divided within itself too. Most of Wall Street and War Street appear to be Clinton cheerleaders–while the rest of Wall Street and War Street seem to want Trump

    “We like everything Trump’s doing, they complain, but he’s doing it too soon! America isn’t quite ready for our brand of all-out fascism quite yet.They still need a few years to be programmed and trained.” Or else beat into submission.

  95. Q. Shtik December 7, 2016 at 10:55 pm #

    More news of a rightward shift all across Europe, this time in a little Polish burg that no one’s heard of.


  96. KesaAnna December 7, 2016 at 11:13 pm #

    ” And if you do shut off the supply of Hispanic and Asian immigrants, who is going to do the work? Jews? Actors? These people haven’t done a day’s work in their lives. ”

    it’s funny, but I seem to recall that I’ve been told about 10,000 times since about 1980 , that with increased efficiency, and automation, WE DON’T NEED ALL THAT MANY ditch-diggers and fruit-pickers.

    Then, on the other hand, and in the next breathe, it’s this business about how we can’t possibly get along without them !

    Which is it ?

    one thing That constantly strikes me ; I am not a citizen of this country and have never pretended to particularly like it , and yet it strikes me obviously that one of the few examples of consistency in the typical American narrative , is that your fellow Americans , whom you presumably like so much , are invariably cast in the worst light , like in the example above.

    In either narrative the not at all subtle hint is that — excepting Jews, actors, casino moguls, porn stars, super heroes, illegal immigrants, and people who carry guns but do no fruit-picking or toilet -scrubbing —
    Americans are worthless shit.

    ” And if you do shut off the supply of Hispanic and Asian immigrants, who is going to do the work? Jews? Actors? These people haven’t done a day’s work in their lives. ”

    Jews and actors ? That’s an awfully short list ! I’ve actually met a few Jews , since I lived for some years in Greensboro NC , like Atlanta GA , one of the very few places in the South where Jews aren’t as rare as Shintoists .
    Actors ? In 48 years I have met exactly two people who were making a living at acting —except, on second thought, that wasn’t strictly the case. The first became a costumer, the second became a technical director / producer.

    I’m not a mind reader , so……

    But this list seems oddly abbreviated.

    • KesaAnna December 7, 2016 at 11:17 pm #

      ” the American capital system is dependent on an expanding supply of cheap labor. ”

      You were right about that though.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 8, 2016 at 3:42 am #

      Yes, as if beds don’t get made or coffee poured in White areas like Wyoming. How on Earth did we get along without Asians and Hispanics? Very well. Much better in fact. And as you say, there’s going to be less need for endless immigration in the years to come. Bringing them in or allowing them to come is nothing less than an act of hatred and treason against America.

      • malthuss December 8, 2016 at 10:23 am #


        With population increasing at a BILLION every 1.2 decades, the ‘need’ is all on the supply side [dump surplus on YT] [YT=Whitey].

        Do you understand?

        • Janos Skorenzy December 8, 2016 at 2:45 pm #

          How dare you? I’m talking to normie bastards here. Lesser men outside the Law. Untermensch.

    • malthuss December 9, 2016 at 11:03 am #

      In a ‘fake economy.’ Growth is important.

      growth in hospital admissions,
      in school attendance,
      tax payers,
      tax receivers,
      car buyers,

      Thanks for your,
      i I seem to recall that I’ve been told about 10,000 times since about 1980 , that with increased efficiency, and automation,
      WE DON’T NEED ALL THAT MANY ditch-diggers and fruit-pickers.

      [Compare your last line to my comment].

  97. trypillian December 8, 2016 at 12:11 am #

    DT should really be nicknamed, metaphorically; the Don as opposed to the Donald. His pugnacious prognostications are worthy of the Syndicate. The Donald conjures visions of that fine feathered friend, Donald Duck.

    HRC, almost became Queen of the world. Her nickname might be The Great V—-a, or perhaps Regina V—-a. DT would love to grasp hold of that one, I’m sure!

  98. KesaAnna December 8, 2016 at 1:02 am #

    ” Under the proposed deal with Carrier’s parent company United Technologies, the company would receive $7 million in financial incentives over 10 years in exchange for a guarantee that Carrier would retain at least 1,000 jobs and invest $16 million into its Indiana operation, a source familiar with the talks has said. ”

    — NBC News

    given past experience , let me guess, part of that $7 million in financial incentives will mean replacing lazy Americans ( translation — more expensive Americans , more expensive because they have all sorts of imposed obligations to meet, beginning with three forms of ID required and a background check ) with industrious foreigners ( translation — cheap foreigners . When three forms of ID are required, and a background check , don’t ask me how an Illegal alien can even get a job. It must be MAGIC I guess. )

  99. malthuss December 8, 2016 at 1:42 am #

    Heirliberty1 hour ago YOU TUBE

    Besta Pizza has already changed their logo on their website.

    The owner of Besta Pizza is Andrew Kline, a human trafficking investigator for the DOJ appointed by President Bill Clinton.

    Next door to Terasol is Beyond Borders. A charity committed to ending human trafficking in Haiti. Pedophiles commonly use Childrens charities to gain access to children.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 8, 2016 at 3:34 am #


      A number of starlets have evinced an obsession with pizza, like Miley Cyrus and Katie Perry – sometimes wearing peperoni pizza pattern clothing. It takes on deeper meaning now.

      • PeteAtomic December 8, 2016 at 10:22 am #


        Pizza is the perfect food.

        And if I could bang Katy Perry while eating pizza, I would die a happy man.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 8, 2016 at 2:48 pm #

          What a grotesque image. And don’t you know that pleasure is a function of concentration? To scatter your attention that way is simply to enjoy less?

          She’s a complete goof: she took her top off to vote for Hillary. Maybe she tried to pull the lever with her breasts?

          • PeteAtomic December 11, 2016 at 10:02 am #

            I wouldn’t sleep with her because of her gigantic intellect 🙂

  100. Janos Skorenzy December 8, 2016 at 3:47 am #

    In the Battle between Good and Evil, have you decided which side you’re on? Remember, not to choose is to choose and the default setting is the status quo – Evil in other words.


    No religion is hated by organized Evil more than Christianity. If you hate Christianity, you have chosen Evil whether you know it or not.

    • bob December 8, 2016 at 8:39 am #

      What is your definition of Christianity?

  101. FincaInTheMountains December 8, 2016 at 3:51 am #

    Russian Muslim (Chechen) military police is heading for Syria


    Chechens are actively involved in the Syrian war effort as part of the Russian contingent. Back in October 2015, after the start of the Russian operation in Syria, the head of the Chechen Republic offered to send on a combat mission, “tens of thousands of volunteers.”

    Unlike the US, Islam is one of the traditional Russian religions, importance of which can not be overestimated.

  102. FincaInTheMountains December 8, 2016 at 4:00 am #

    Putin caught up on photo from an unexpected angle:


  103. fodase December 8, 2016 at 9:22 am #

    janetwpa_ccc, open your eyes friend, the DOW and the economy are booming because people see an end to the econimic stupidity of the left in the form of business-killing taxes and regulations.

    Here is proof positive from the steel industry, which has announced that *because of the prospect of lower taxes and less regulations* the industry is looking at the ability to HIRE BACK 10,000 WORKERS:

    United States Steel would like to accelerate its investments and hire back laid-off employees now that Donald Trump will be occupying the Oval Office, CEO Mario Longhi told CNBC on Wednesday.
    “We already structured to do some things, but when you see in the near future improvement to the tax laws, improvements to regulation, those two things by themselves may be a significant driver to what we’re going to do,” he said in an interview with CNBC’s “Power Lunch.”
    In addition, the belief that the U.S. economy can grow at least 3.5 percent also adds to what the company can do, Longhi noted.
    “I’d be more than happy to bring back the employees we’ve been forced to lay off during that depressive period,” he said, which “could be close to 10,000 jobs.”
    In a statement to CNBC later, U.S. Steel clarified that Longhi was “referring to the American steel industry overall, not just to employees of United States Steel Corporation.”

    I am 100% sure that you, janet_wpa_ccc, will just revel in the fact that common workers, white and black and muslim, will have solid, well-paying jobs now.

    Admit it, we haven’t had this type of economic optimism in eons….

  104. Cavepainter December 8, 2016 at 9:45 am #

    Look folks, all this arguing about supposed errors of humanity in the past and/or what reparations are owed based upon such suppositions is superfluous and…supercilious. Mom nature has tallied the numbers and is closing the circle on what elements of humanity have any prospect of survival at all.

    And know what, that prospect exist only where remain balance between sustainable resources to population. Further, “resources” is more than just minimum caloric requirement but includes species diversity — as in true wilderness habitat — along with quality of life for humans beyond urban equivalent of rabbit warrens. Yes, human mental and social health require availability of wilderness experience and open spaces.

    Wringing hands about who was left out of the equations of the past is throwing away the last prospect for human survival, fate has drawn its line having nothing to do with race but has everything to do with cultural alignment away from mystical interpretations, instead more toward scientifically defined objectivity — Western Culture, essentially.

  105. Cold N. Holefield December 8, 2016 at 10:17 am #

    Hello Friends (NOT!!). Here’s yet another blog post. When it rains it pours.

    The Power Behind The Throne

    • K-Dog December 11, 2016 at 8:08 am #

      I liked your presentation but history only rhymes and sometimes one sees too much. Does an angel really get wings every time a bell rings?

      By becoming a recluse Salinger made himself into a legend but Catcher never really took much of a hold on me. It’s disjointed.

  106. bibliomaniac December 8, 2016 at 10:52 am #

    “One Sociologist’s Compelling Theory For How the US Could Devolve into Fascism and then Collapse”: Alternet, 12/7/16 Travis Getty

    Johan Galtung, sociologist and mathematician, predicts the US Empire will wither away and collapse under Trump. “American fascism will spring from its capacity for global violence, a vision of exceptionalism, a belief in an inevitable and final war between good and evil…and the ‘cult of a strong leader’.”

    Conflicts with NATO and military allies suggest they will abandon the US, and the empire will collapse. Galtung suggests this may happen as early as 2020.

  107. janet December 8, 2016 at 11:23 am #

    “Mom nature has tallied the numbers”

    Mom nature has been wrong so many times she cannot be trusted. She is both violent and careless (indifferent actually), a dangerous combination. Mom nature is terrible at math.

    Nor can scientism of the kind you believe in, cavepainter, be blindly trusted. Look around. Science has been at work for 500 years with mixed results.

    • Cavepainter December 8, 2016 at 11:39 am #

      “scientism of the kind you believe in”,, “Mom nature is terrible at math”? What theorem (am I fair in using that label) are you suggesting as alternative to reasoned examination of empirical evidence?

  108. elysianfield December 8, 2016 at 11:28 am #

    Cold N. Holefield
    December 7, 2016 at 12:09 pm #

    “Here’s why I don’t like you Avatar and why I don’t trust you and why I think you’re a bully & a coward. You used the word “we.” That’s what bullies do — they try to isolate their targets and then appeal to the authority of the crowd. I have no friends here Avatar so I don’t think in terms of “we.” It’s just me, and I’ll take any god damned one of you at any time if you’re willing to do it without weapons and without each other”

    You haven’t really “arrived” on this site until you have been vilified and physically threatened by Cold N Holefield. I now feel that I belong in this disparate group…a level of comfort, earlier lacking….

    The Avatar

    • malthuss December 8, 2016 at 1:16 pm #

      Thanks for the humor.
      Welcome to the club.

      • Cold N. Holefield December 8, 2016 at 1:25 pm #

        How sweet. Give him his sheet and pointy hat while you’re at it, and of course, a cross to burn. It’s acceptable to burn crosses but never flags.

        • malthuss December 9, 2016 at 11:05 am #

          Love you, Merry Christmas.

    • malthuss December 8, 2016 at 1:26 pm #

      Cold N. Holefield December 7, 2016 at 2:04 pm #

      I know you’re not a Man. Cowards are not Men. You’re a Coward. Therefore, you are not a Man.

      This malthuss punk avatar is one of the avatars that promulgated the the Fake Pizzagate Story in the last blog post. It’s the height of irony since the blog post is entitled The Rediscovery of Men. But, it’s to be expected. It’s Donald Trump’s America now, or will be January 20th absent a miracle.

  109. fodase December 8, 2016 at 11:52 am #

    gotta love these ‘experts’ predicting that the US ‘may’ come to an end by 2020…

    the recent horrible failure of ‘experts’ to see what normal folks saw, i.e. Trump winning the presidency, shows that too much education kills common sense

    re Trump’s pick of Pruitt to head the EPA…nice to see someone pragmatic back at the helm. Here’s a cogent analysis bit re this:

    That such renewable energy continues to prove expensive and intermittent (since the wind doesn’t always blow and the sun doesn’t always shine) has mattered little to green advocates.
    Ironically, this investment in green energy has yielded only modest returns even as the domestic coal industry has made enormous investments to reduce emissions. Modern U.S. coal plants are 90 percent cleaner than 30 years ago, thanks to impressive advances in scrubbing technologies. The same money being generously funneled to wind and solar projects could also yield even cleaner coal—which would be a sensible priority since coal has formed the backbone of reliable, robust, and affordable domestic power generation for decades.

    Make Coal Great Again, we have a 300-year supply

    • malthuss December 8, 2016 at 1:19 pm #

      Make Coal Great Again, we have a 300-year supply

      For 350 million or 3.5 billion USA citizens and wetbacks?

      Enough for how many?
      I am not into just, ‘Peak Oil,’ but ‘peak all’ [pronounce the ‘all’ as ‘erl’].

    • ozone December 8, 2016 at 6:25 pm #

      “the recent horrible failure of ‘experts’ to see what normal folks saw, i.e. Trump winning the presidency, shows that too much education kills common sense”

      Dearie me, my little Brazilian twit, that ain’t it a’tall…
      The real reason for the death of common sense is folks paying rapt attention to shitheads dispensing twaddle that “just ain’t so”. (That would be an exact replica of most of what you’ve been selling here.)

      Now run along and get back to hatin’ on the people that you’re surrounded by (and whom you’ve non-common-sensically plunked your ass into the middle of); that should work out dandy.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 8, 2016 at 11:50 pm #

        So you think Latin America isn’t far more violent White European or North America? Silly boy. Whites in Latin America keep the lights on and things running. Their crime rates are much lower – they’re White after all. Staring to see how it works? Race matters, twit.

        • ozone December 10, 2016 at 5:33 pm #

          …Since vladdie the diarrheal poster is nothing but a paid minion (of the Deep State, no less!) his stance on *anything* can be conveniently ignored. The only thing we can have some small confidence in, is that he is a true booster of and believer in the Omni-State. (Consider his “job” and you’ll get what I mean.)

  110. Cold N. Holefield December 8, 2016 at 12:26 pm #

    At this rate, I fully expect Trump, or I should say Pence, to nominate Susan Cameron for Surgeon General. I mean, why not? It makes sense, or as much sense the rest of his (Pence’s) picks make.

    The following article is beyond-the-pale-Orwellian. Satire is now Reality. Robin Williams knew it. He knew he was like an appendix — a largely irrelevant evolutionary artifact.


  111. FincaInTheMountains December 8, 2016 at 12:28 pm #

    After the defeat of Hillary Clinton, the title of “leader of the free world” is going now to Angela Merkel.


  112. janet December 8, 2016 at 12:43 pm #

    “What theorem (am I fair in using that label) are you suggesting as alternative to reasoned examination of empirical evidence?” –cavepainter

    Please don’t misunderstand me. I am not advocating throwing the baby out with the bath water.

    As Nina Simone sings: “I’m just a soul whose intentions are good. Oh, Lord, please don’t let me be misunderstood.”

    I believe in science, but not scientism. From Wikipedia: “Scientism is a belief in the universal applicability of the scientific method and approach, and the view that empirical science constitutes the most authoritative worldview or the most valuable part of human learning—to the exclusion of other viewpoints.”

    Just understand the limits of science. Science is great at telling us the how and what of things, but lousy at the why and wherefore. Science cannot help us, for example, when it comes to making moral judgements. When is euthanasia the right thing to do? What universal rights should humans have? Should other animals have rights? Questions like these are important, but scientific research will not answer them.

    For almost any important scientific advance, one can imagine both positive and negative ways that knowledge could be used. Again, science helps us describe how the world is, and then we have to decide how to use that knowledge.

    Moral judgments, aesthetic judgments, decisions about applications of science, and conclusions about the supernatural are outside the realm of science, but that doesn’t mean that these realms are unimportant. In fact, domains such as ethics, aesthetics, and religion fundamentally influence human societies and how those societies interact with science. Neither are such domains unscholarly. In fact, topics like aesthetics, morality, and theology are actively studied by philosophers, historians, and other scholars. However, questions that arise within these domains generally cannot be resolved by science.

    Nina Simone, Don’t Let Me Be Misunderstood

    • Cavepainter December 8, 2016 at 5:29 pm #

      AT RISK OF REDUNDANCE ON THIS SITE: The human psyche puts up barrier against objective reality which informs that the vast forces of nature are indifferent to us meager humans. Viola,…our outsized neo-cortex serves up concepts of all manner of super natural/mystical forces that can be cajoled to intervene on our behalf. That is, religious beliefs — or, as with today’s Left dogma of secular Utopian fantasies.
      This human trait of side-stepping empirical evidence allowed a tiny minority of our specie genome to survive over evolutionary time, but double edged as are all specie traits it has taken the greater majority into oblivion not different from the fateful outcome of most other specie.

      We are the only specie that apprehends reality by digesting sensory input into concepts (reality a concept too, residing in the matrix of concepts that constitute language). Unless we adopt recognition that nature runs a cruel numbers game and not try to trump the ‘house’ with a limp hand of ‘booga-booga’ or woo-woo beliefs then survival outcome for even a small portion of humanity will be lost.

      The ‘trait’ evolved to prevent our over-sized, gas hog brain (consumes vast amount of calories) from driving metabolism at “peddle to the metal” anxiety rate, causing caloric burn rate to be greater than affordable calories during evolutionary time
      So,…..likelihood of survival for just a small proportion of today’s human population will be pissed away if we as a specie don’t come to terms with our innate proclivity to momentary ‘feel-good’ fantasies that deny that earth’s carry capacity has been exceeded.

      You can play that hand of working miracles as opposed to the vast body of contemporary scholarship (scientism?), but……..

      • Q. Shtik December 8, 2016 at 10:10 pm #

        the vast forces of nature are indifferent to us [meager] humans. [Viola],…our outsized neo-cortex serves up……..

        the fateful outcome of most other [specie]. – Cave


        I think you meant [mere] humans

        A viola is a musical instrument. I think you meant [voila.]

        Specie is a form of money. I think you meant [species] which can be either singular or plural.

        • Cavepainter December 9, 2016 at 7:21 am #

          Yep, getting hung up within the corpus callosum and dyslexic to boot, but……what are your thoughts re my points as framed?

          • Q. Shtik December 9, 2016 at 10:24 am #

            our outsized neo-cortex serves up concepts of all manner of super natural/mystical forces that can be cajoled to intervene on our behalf. That is, religious beliefs — or, as with today’s Left dogma of secular Utopian fantasies. – Cave


            I agree entirely with the above, Cave. We have our fair share of ‘believers’ on this site. As an example, yesterday I learned all I needed to know about DumbedUp when he assured us that Jesus would be returning.

      • elysianfield December 9, 2016 at 11:08 am #

        “So,…..likelihood of survival for just a small proportion of today’s human population will be pissed away if we as a specie don’t come to terms with our innate proclivity to momentary ‘feel-good’ fantasies that deny that earth’s carry capacity has been exceeded”

        Generally, I can agree with what you just posted…However, our “Innate Proclivities” are hardwired, and not subject to change…other than some of us developing “intra-generational” awareness, if you will.

  113. janet December 8, 2016 at 12:58 pm #


    Donald Trump is Time’s Person of the Year:

    “For all of Trump’s public life, tastemakers and intellectuals have dismissed him as a vulgarian and carnival barker, a showman with big flash and little substance. But what those critics never understood was that their disdain gave him strength. For years, he fed off the disrespect and used it to grab more tabloid headlines, to connect to common people. Now he has upended the leadership of both major political parties and effectively shifted the political direction of the international order. He will soon command history’s most lethal military, along with economic levers that can change the lives of billions. And the people he has to thank are those he calls ‘the forgotten,’ millions of American voters who get paid by the hour in shoes that will never touch these carpets ? working folk, regular Janes and Joes, the dots in the distance.”

    This could have been written by CFN, by volodya. Is the mainstream media parroting CFN or is CFN parroting the mainstream media?

    • elysianfield December 8, 2016 at 4:33 pm #

      “This could have been written by CFN, by volodya.”

      Yes, and every bit as well….

    • Q. Shtik December 8, 2016 at 10:57 pm #

      Donald Trump is Time’s Person of the Year: – janet


      The ‘Person of the Year’ designation is not an imprimatur.

  114. janet December 8, 2016 at 1:15 pm #

    IF YOU LIKE YOUR PLAN, GO F*** YOURSELF – Train wreck! Train wreck!

    Jonathan Cohn: “Republicans who think their ‘repeal and delay’ strategy for Obamacare won’t cause serious and immediate insurance disruptions should read a new report that came out early Wednesday morning.

    The report, from the nonpartisan Urban Institute, predicts that state insurance markets will start to unravel almost immediately and that, as early as next year, the ranks of the uninsured will begin swelling. And if Republicans can’t come up with a replacement, the report says, the number of people without insurance could eventually rise by 20 million to 30 million people.”

    • elysianfield December 8, 2016 at 4:36 pm #

      “The report, from the nonpartisan Urban Institute, predicts that state insurance markets will start to unravel almost immediately”


      This unraveling would be a suitable excuse for mandating a single payer system…the gold standard, as you are well aware.

  115. Cold N. Holefield December 8, 2016 at 1:33 pm #

    Malthuss Pizzagate will like this. M-I-S-C-E-G-E-N-Y-!!!!!!!!!!!!

    The Alt Right’s Reaction To Edgar Welch’s “Patriotism”

  116. Cold N. Holefield December 8, 2016 at 1:56 pm #

    How many more Edgar Welch’s are there out there? A slew of them, I assure you. Edgar is just a warm up.

    malthuss is a trigger.


  117. fodase December 8, 2016 at 1:57 pm #

    Make America Great Again by rehabilitating the Cigarette Industry because when America was last great, the Cigarette Industry was BOOMING

    that’s some cogent analysis there, partner, take you long to think that one up?

    never mind the fact that coal burning is now 90% cleaner than it was 30 years ago. what if we get it to 97%, will you still be howling irrationally that it’s polluting a bit?

    green energy pollutes too. i like it a lot, but it has pollution effects as well.

    we make coal 97% clean and we’ve got energy independence, hundreds of thousands of jobs and positive knock-on effects, and money circulating inside the US and A, to everyone’s benefit.

    …and he’s not even been sworn in yet!

    anyway, people should be free to smoke if they want to, too, long as they respect others’ breathing air.

    live and let live, a concept alien to the lefty loons, who are despots at heart

    • janet December 8, 2016 at 2:17 pm #

      Coal causes more than one million premature deaths every year. There is no such thing as clean coal and there never will be. It’s an oxymoron.

      Air pollution caused by coal, wood (looking at you, ozone), and biomass stoves, kills more people than HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis, and malaria combined, according to the World Health Organization.

      Coal is Not the Answer to Energy Poverty and Here’s Why by Kevin Grandia

  118. fodase December 8, 2016 at 2:35 pm #

    that’s why we use technology to make coal cleaner.

    there’s a tradeoff with any technology in terms of pollution vs. benefits.

    cars are something like 97% cleaner than in 1970 as well. and pretty soon they’ll be driving themselves and cut accidents by 80%.

    there’ll still be injurites and fatalities, but the benefits far outweigh the negatives.

    same with coal. we’ve got the ability to significantly cut ties with horrible countries (saudi arabia comes to mind) by pursuing a clean-energy program for coal.

    we did it with the moon programme.

    we will do it again with coal and other fossil fuels.

    adults now in charge of the nation, get ready for real results.

  119. Janos Skorenzy December 8, 2016 at 2:43 pm #

    Another military man appointed to the Cabinet. It’s a quite a coup. A quiet Anschluss.


    • Frankiti December 8, 2016 at 7:40 pm #

      Yeah, the US military has such an impressive record. Trillions spent, tens of thousands of lives lost, and 0 wars won. The military is only good at producing weak men that fall on their sword, retire, and then write a mea culpa full of regrets for not doing the right thing. Jingoism pollutes the brains of the common low folk. They think hiring people from the largest failed bureaucracy on earth is a step in the right direction. They also think the same way in most banana republics.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 8, 2016 at 11:45 pm #

        No, that’s the military that’s been cucked, with cadets wearing heels and generals saying, the real tragedy is if diversity sufferers after Muslim massacres.

        Look at Israel: Ben Gurion is still a hero, one of many. Real Nations honor their great military men. Stop applying double standards, one for us and another one for yourselves.

        • malthuss December 9, 2016 at 11:08 am #

          Franki is ((())))?

          • Janos Skorenzy December 9, 2016 at 2:57 pm #

            I seem to remember him admitting it, but now he denies it and it’s not worth the effort to try and find his admission. He acts like one, in any case – his use of absolute “decay” and “change” against White America are classic Jewish tactics. As if since everything is changing, we can’t have borders and be a country. He’s going to die, yet still he feeds himself. Why?

          • Frankiti December 9, 2016 at 5:41 pm #

            The problem with you dummies, is that you conflate, confuse, and confabulate about race.

            It’s culture. Not all are equal. This is a fact.

            What causes these disparities in a given society?
            Is it social status?

            Or is it race?
            Seriously? You have to be truly ignorant, untraveled, inexperienced, and provincial to believe that.

            Fortunately, there are plenty of you low-class, uneducated, unsophisticated types that make sure to prove me right, day after day, week after week.


  120. fodase December 8, 2016 at 2:46 pm #

    yes, it’s like watching a body come back to life with vigour, so refreshing to see the good return to the country….

    the White Witch is dead, the snow is melting fast

  121. fodase December 8, 2016 at 2:49 pm #

    janet_wpa_asoka your anti-coal article is about dirty coal burning in other countries.

    we in the US and A are better, smarter, and can do it right, aka clean.

    the US and A is the world leader and flourishes when you excise the necrotic loony left

    must be hellacious for you dingbats to witness what Herr Tr(i)ump(h) is doing for America.

    Long may she shine brightly with freedom!

    • capt spaulding December 8, 2016 at 2:57 pm #

      Your use of “Herr Trump” is indicative of your leanings. You are a Nazi, and wish for the return of that sort of power structure. Something to get together with other people of the same convictions and salute. The other thing you want is to be able to punish those who differ in their opinions. It will be interesting to see how your feelings are when you are shipped to the Eastern front.

      • elysianfield December 8, 2016 at 4:44 pm #

        Your use of “Herr Trump” is indicative of your leanings. You are a Nazi”

        Really? That’s all it takes to get a party card? A bit of overreach, no?

        Trump ist der sieg!.

  122. fodase December 8, 2016 at 3:20 pm #

    wow you really are astute! as anyone can read from my past posts, i am for freedom of speech, even if i don’t agree with it.

    what a maroon you are, fools like you are a dime a dozen

  123. janet December 8, 2016 at 5:11 pm #

    “we in the US and A are better, smarter, and can do it right, aka clean.” –fodase

    I have been hearing this from people like you and from coal industry propaganda, but the reality of a 30% parasitic load means it will never happen, especially with the short-fingered vulgarian in the WH. The coal industry has a get out of jail free card now and zero motivation to invest in clean coal. What they get is 30% more profit for dirty coal.

    You say I am citing world wide figures. OK. Let’s look at the USA. The projected nationwide costs for the implementing of carbon capture and storage in coal-fired power plants in the USA can be found in the Wall Street Journal:

    Credit Suisse Group says $15 billion needs to be invested in CCS over the next 10 years for it to play an important role in climate change.

    The International Energy Agency says $20 billion is needed.

    The Pew Center on Global Climate Change says the number is as high as $30 billion. Those figures dwarf the actual investments to date.

    In the US, the Bush administration spent about $2.5 billion on clean coal technology — a large amount, but far less than the amounts neeed.

    Congress authorized $1.1 billion toward the project in 2009 as a continuation of a 2003 project Bush proposed. The $1.7 billion FutureGen 2.0 project was meant to build a coal-fired power plant in Illinois that captures carbon and pumps it underground. Note how they are playing rope a dope. This has gone on for decades.

    The whole “clean coal” unicorn is a coal industry head fake, a farce which the Obama administration finally shut down because the Bush administration federal project aimed at demonstrating “clean coal” technology never was able to demonstrate viable, affordable, scaleable “clean coal” … because no such animal exists.

  124. janet December 8, 2016 at 5:20 pm #

    fodase, “clean coal” has been on the table for decades. Where is it being commercially produced on a large scale? Nowhere. But we got lots of mountaintops removed and lots of streams contaminated beyond use.

    “The DOE has concluded that there is insufficient time to complete the “clean coal” project before federal funding expires in September 2015. Despite the Alliance’s commitment to advancing carbon capture and storage technology and cleaner energy from coal, as well as our belief that there are solutions to address the impending deadline, the Alliance must comply with DOE’s directive.”

    The Energy Department only spent about $200 million of the money authorized in the 2009 stimulus law. FutureGen obtained some permits but never started construction.

    FutureGen was a priority for the Bush administration, who wanted to show that coal could be a part of a future with limited greenhouse gas emissions.

    The federal government is still spending money in other clean-coal projects, though the United States still does not have a commercial-scale coal plant with carbon capture.

    The Energy Department confirmed the end of the program, saying it did not believe it could get far enough along in construction by the time federal funding expired.

  125. fodase December 8, 2016 at 5:24 pm #

    since we can’t ever, ever ever ever have clean coal, i propose taking hillary’s $2 billion earmarked for bullying and jug ear’s millions for transphobic bathrooms and spending it developing ways to clean up coal even more than the 90% achieved during the past 3 decades.

    man will never fly, ok he’ll never go above the clouds, ok he’ll never go to outer space, ok he’ll never go to the moon, or mars, or other galaxies…or even be able to burn coal in a clean manner.

    watch the Herr Trump (oh my gosh, I’m a Nazzy!) EPA mandate a ‘clean’ coal effort

    Trump always stumps you naysayers, who never get anything done except put a ball and chain around the legs of progress

    • Frankiti December 8, 2016 at 5:28 pm #

      Yeah, because burning a rock is progress.

      The great thing about severely stupid people is that it is so easy to not take them seriously.

      What are you doing to “clean-up coal”? Let me guess, waiting for some other intelligent person to do it for you.

      You are the white-man burden.

    • janet December 8, 2016 at 5:55 pm #

      fodase, I provided three specific cost estimates published in the WSJ, compared to what we have actually spent. It won’t be done because there is no political will to do it.

      As for Trump, he is not going to rescue the coal industry. Those coal miners are not getting their jobs back because Trump has promised to battle domestic environmental regulations. That may not give the industry the lift it hopes, because market forces have been the real problem for companies, not regulations.

      Plus Trump probably doesn’t know what CCS is anyway. It is not mentioned in Trump’s “America First Energy Plan” (his first 100 days action plan). If he doesn’t even mention it, has never spoken of it, is not aware of it, is ignorant about it, there is little chance carbon capture and storage will be implemented. Technical feasibility becomes irrelevant without political will.

      I hope I am wrong. Here is why I don’t think I am:

      “Trump has promised a dramatic shift in U.S. energy policy, from getting out of the Paris climate deal, to easing regulation on domestic oil and gas drilling, to scrapping the Clean Power Plan that affects the role of coal,” said Jason Bordoff, director of the Center on Global Energy Policy at Columbia University.

  126. janet December 8, 2016 at 5:33 pm #

    “When the coal industry claims it already has clean coal,” said Mary Anne Hitt, director of the Beyond Coal campaign, “They are talking about strategies for removing sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxide and mercury, but they don’t do anything about CO2 because it’s too expensive. When the president talks about clean coal technology, he is referring to carbon capture and storage….the two are not even having the same conversation.”

    The goal of the Sierra Club’s Beyond Coal campaign is to retire one-third of the nation’s over 500 coal plants by 2020; so far 147 have retired. Burning coal, the dirtiest fossil fuel, still produces about 40 percent of the electricity in the U.S., although this figure has been declining because of the natural gas boom. Coal mining destroys mountaintops and dumps rubble and toxic waste into streams. Burning coal is responsible for soot and smog that result in over $100 billion in health costs each year. Coal plants release toxic mercury into the air and leave behind dangerous coal ash pollution.

    Moreover, coal-fired power plants are responsible for one third of all U.S. carbon dioxide emissions each year. Carbon dioxide, a powerful greenhouse gas, traps heat and warms the planet. In May, carbon emissions in the atmosphere topped 400 parts per million for the first time in over 2.5 million years. Humans have now put enough carbon dioxide into the atmosphere to change life on Earth as we know it; and we are already feeling the effects of climate change in more extreme weather and rising seas.

  127. fodase December 8, 2016 at 5:54 pm #

    take your meds frankiti, you burn petroleum?

    you burn charcoal?

    you cook using electricity?

    you recycle 100% of the trash you produce?

    the great thing about forward-thinking people is that they drag brain-dead ludds with them into the future.

    then the naysayers use the next great invention, e.g. the internet, to claim that no progress can be made

    go polish your typewriter frankiti so you can type up your next 5th-grade riposte, and turn your lights off, you’re burning a rock

    and like i told you previously, get a job, create something and enjoy success, it’s the best revenge, like they say

    • Frankiti December 8, 2016 at 7:27 pm #

      Is it the mold in your trailer?

      That, you know, eats away at your gray matter?

  128. FincaInTheMountains December 8, 2016 at 5:58 pm #

    How Gallup betrayed Hillary

    Trump has his own sociological/public opinion service, the results of which are not published due to futility and harmfulness of this activity. But it was taken into account in the development of electoral strategy. And Hillary did not have her own sociological service because in her favor works (or worked?) advocates for all social scientists, publishing their results.

    Naturally they publish to justify the results of Hilary “work” with the election commissions. And although she was supposedly in control of everything, but the devil is in the details that could not be accounted for in their entirety.

    And now, when Trump won the Electoral College, but reportedly lost the popular vote, supporters of Hillary, which are supposedly in majority, must crave to change the system of the Electoral College, but instead the Gallup poll showed that post-election support rejection of the indirect system of elections has plummeted.

    Which again confirms the unpublished results of public opinion polls carried out by the sociological service of Trump.


  129. janet December 8, 2016 at 6:04 pm #

    “then the naysayers use the next great invention, e.g. the internet, to claim that no progress can be made” –fodase

    Jury is still out on that one, fodase. There is a difference in saying “no progress can be made” and “no progress will be made because there is no political will or money to do x, y, z.”

    Show me the money, fodase. Will Trump provide the money? From where?

  130. fodase December 8, 2016 at 6:44 pm #

    yes i agree there must be political will to bring about clean(er) coal – btw any energy source which has the ability to power entire populations (large scale in other words) will have polluting aspects that should be better addressed.

    re the money, i invoked the moon program because it shows that US Americans can band together to overcome massive technical challenges.

    don’t put it past HERR (“Sieg Heil! Sieg HEIL! Sieg HEIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [puts on nazzy uniform, salutes, tries to suppress contrary opinions by clubbing capt spaulding into oblivion]) Trump to actually do the right thing and pursue this.

    we see his longing to bring back jobs, why not MCGA (Make Coal Great Again – Kohle Wieder Toll Machen, bin letzendlich ein Neonazi ihr scheissdreck Judenficker!)

    • janet December 8, 2016 at 7:10 pm #

      I don’t think you are a nazi or a racist, fodase. You are just playing with others’ fears. Capt. Spaulding has a right to be concerned. Perhaps you should visit the Appalachian area of the USA and look at what coal hath wrought. And that is just environmentally speaking.

      The white miners also suffer ill health from black lung disease, CWP, COPD, and the effects of those diseases last for years, constant coughing and difficulty breathing, all from having a “job” in the coal mines. Trump wants to put them back under ground.

      • Frankiti December 8, 2016 at 7:29 pm #

        I don’t think you’re Janet WPAsoka

        • janet December 8, 2016 at 8:49 pm #

          Perhaps you should visit the Appalachian area of the USA and look at what coal hath wrought to poor whites there. The effects of mountaintop removal are horrific.

          Willie Nelson has documented this in “America the Beautiful”


          The white miners also suffer ill health from black lung disease, CWP, COPD, and the effects of those diseases last for years, constant coughing and difficulty breathing, all from having a “job” in the coal mines. Trump wants to put them back under ground.

    • malthuss December 9, 2016 at 11:12 am #

      never mind the fact that coal burning is now 90% cleaner than it was 30 years ago.

      Never mind that most coal is burned in China or where it is dirty coal, yes?
      Go to ‘duck duck go.com’ and search, ‘most polluted cities.’

  131. nsa December 8, 2016 at 8:47 pm #

    Notice how “global warming” (we used to call it summer) has now morphed into “climate change” (covers both contingencies -summer warming and winter cooling). If nothing else, the vile trickster academic pointy-heads and their hysterical apocalyptic followers are resourceful.

    • janet December 8, 2016 at 8:58 pm #

      Nothing tricky about it. Which of these facts do you deny?

      A) Climate change is happening.

      B) Humans are largely responsible for recent climate change.

      C) Global warming is causing climate patterns to change.

      You went to school to learn nsa, things you never, never knew before
      Like “I” before “E” except after “C” and why 2 plus 2 makes 4
      Now, now, now I’m gonna teach you … All about climate change
      Sit yourself down, take a seat, all you gotta do is repeat after me

      A B C … It’s easy as, 1 2 3 … As simple as, do re mi … A B C, 1 2 3

      • Frankiti December 9, 2016 at 5:30 pm #

        W-P-A… it’s simple as C-C-C

      • elysianfield December 9, 2016 at 6:14 pm #

        I reject none of your premises, but I consider them all suspect. Climate change theory is based on computer models of Earth’s climate… models which by all measure are incomplete. Climate change is an educated guess, with vast scientific consensus. The guess, however is corrupted by politics…power and money at the highest level. I’ve seen enough bad science in my 70 years to question the dynamic.

    • thwack December 8, 2016 at 10:50 pm #


      I too am suspicious of the climate change cult.

      It may be arrogance that causes people to think they can change the climate of an entire planet?

      Europe was once covered in sheets of ice, who did that?

      The Sahara desert was once wet with lakes and rivers, who did that?

      Humans may have NO ability to change the Earths climate even if we wanted to?

      Besides, if the climate does change, we can just change along with it at the same rate.

      Im more worried about the Earths magnetic field.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 9, 2016 at 4:08 pm #

        The Sahara was a Paradise. The Pharaohs turned it into a Wasteland to keep Blacks out of Europe. Ra was an Aryan Superman of enormous Wisdom and Power.

        • thwack December 9, 2016 at 6:41 pm #


  132. Florida Power December 8, 2016 at 9:39 pm #

    Been traveling a lot lately. Not much time to post pithy observations. Advanced from industrial waste status to gold at Hilton Honors! Yay! FREE BOTTLED WATER! Hoping for Medallion level at American to avoid the goats and chickens crowd.

    Everywhere I view the booming buzzing confusion of turbo-charged -internal-combustion engine-HVAC-regulated – LED-illuminated – electric America, circa 2016.

    I imagine others at every interstate interchange, Manhattan or Chicago or LA or Tokyo or Paris or London intersection viewing the same, at the same time.

    There ain’t nothing can be done about it without unleashing anarchy and violence beyond imagination. No climate accord, carbon tax, vegetarianism – nothing. These people have got to get to Work!

    Maybe Pucker has the answer. Puck – how ‘bout it?

  133. Buck Stud December 9, 2016 at 2:26 am #

    What’s interesting to me is how idealogues on both ends of the political spectrum are both divergent and yet similar. Divergent in that the rabid left is hoping for Donald Trump to fail spectacularly while those on the far right will never see or admit failure,period . But both are similar in that they issue self-validating declarations from an economically inoculated vantage point.

    Personally, I am rooting for a rip-roaring ‘animal spirit’ economy under DT; I do not want the economy to tank because I will personally suffer since I’m not “inoculated” from political/economic fallout. I recall the Fall of 08 far too well and it felt like an economic Siberia for years afterward and in fact, never really fully rebounded.

    Obviously, there is going to be a learning curve for anyone undertaking such a Herculean challenge as stepping into the Oval Office and I expect, like John Elway as a rookie, Trump may have a moment or two where he lines up behind the guard as opposed to center. This is to be expected and not something to make political hay about. If the social safety net is going to be slashed as seems inevitable, one can only hope and root for a countervailing economic upsurge at the end of the day. But this will be a very tricky and difficult feat to pull off.

    Like Elway, Trump most assuredly has great “street ball” instincts. The great danger for Trump , IMO–always and forever; just my two cent opinion–is he risks losing himself in the learning curve phase amidst the smothering/enveloping influence of traditional GOP interests. When in fact, the old GOP is now the Donald Trump party. I hope Trump continues to assert himself even when “learning the ropes” and Steve Bannon will no doubt help. In fact, if “economic populism” successfully prevails, Trump will peel away aspects of the Democratic Party and virtually assure himself reelection.

    A little side note for those interested in Scotland. Trump’s mother hails from the Highland Macleod’s in the Hebrides region of Western Scotland…a very interesting history indeed.

    • malthuss December 9, 2016 at 11:10 am #

      Do you do any farming, gardening, prepping?

      Do you own lead?

      • Buck Stud December 9, 2016 at 2:45 pm #

        No farming, no gardening, no prepping and no guns for me; I don’t have the time and I would rather spend money on tools/supplies that actually help me in a business sense.

        Come “Doomsday” I won’t “make it through the bottleneck”. Oh well, a good day to die as they say.

        Frankly, I don’t really see how one can have one foot in the garden, one foot at the shooting range, and what body part in the workshop actually producing things?

        Right now, for instance, I’m really getting into water gilding and carving period frames despite the inevitable futility of ot it all. For example a friend asked me why I’m bothering with the time and expense–gold leaf is not cheap– when somebody– most everybody in the market no doubt–will simply order an imitation gold leaf frame from China for a price that won’t even cover the cost of a pile of gesso and a dab of hyde glue.

        I don’t really have an answer other than it somehow feels right at the moment.

        • Q. Shtik December 9, 2016 at 4:56 pm #

          most everybody in the market no doubt–will simply order an imitation gold leaf frame from China for a price that won’t even cover the cost of a pile of gesso and a dab of hyde glue. – Buck


          Buck, you caused me to look up ‘gesso’ and ‘hyde (aka hide) glue’.

          For the curious:

          Gesso is a white paint mixture consisting of a binder mixed with chalk, gypsum, pigment, or any combination of these. It is used in artwork as a preparation for any number of substrates such as wood panels, canvas and sculpture as a base for paint and other materials that are applied over it.

          Hide glue is an animal glue. An animal glue is an adhesive that is created by prolonged boiling of animal connective tissue. These protein colloid glues are formed through hydrolysis of the collagen from skins, bones, tendons, and other tissues, similar to gelatin.

          The site below will tell you more than you want to know about various glues used with wood:


          As to the gold leaf, I fully appreciate your desire to do nothing chintzy, half-assed and on the cheap.

        • thwack December 9, 2016 at 6:35 pm #

          “Come “Doomsday” I won’t “make it through the bottleneck”.”

          You will if you strip naked, cover yourself in grease and drop all your carry on baggage.

          • malthuss December 9, 2016 at 9:37 pm #

            Or if Doomsday is a month long and someone has the fat stored [on ones body] or food stored to get thru to the ‘New Age.’

            The others will starve.

          • thwack December 11, 2016 at 10:29 am #

            No amount of grease will help a fat person get through the skinny part of the hourglass.

            If one of your ass cheeks is larger than your head, you are doomed.

  134. FincaInTheMountains December 9, 2016 at 3:52 am #

    Trump wants China to hang itself, and pay for the rope too

    China’s problem regarding Trump’s demand to appreciate Yuan to the dollar is not only connected with the Beijing unwillingness to bend under the new American administration and cut its economic growth by dealing a painful blow to Chinese exports, but also with the objective financial constraints. The fact that the Yuan (if it is not maintained artificially) should fall in value against the dollar and the attempts to raise the exchange rate artificially would be for Beijing very, very expensive.

    Now China is gradually burning its currency reserves to slow down the devaluation of the Yuan caused by flight of the capital, and Trump demands the impossible – to raise the Chinese currency. To meet this demand China would have to actually burn all of its foreign exchange reserves, throwing them into the furnace of the currency market.

    If just slowing of the fall of the Renminbi required to spend 25% of China’s reserves, the attempt to “raise” will lead to their rapid exhaustion. In fact, the new White House administration proposes China to hang itself, and even pay for a rope. Obviously, this option is unacceptable for Beijing.

    On the other hand, the new US administration has other tools to deprive China of a large part of the positive effects of a reduced rate of Yuan. The most obvious option (which is already being actively discussed by the Japanese) is to refuse to recognize China as a market economy and to take advantage of the WTO rules, which allow you to enter tariff barriers against such countries.

    In an extreme case, there is always an option to set up anti-Chinese customs duty, and screw the WTO rules – that would be in the American style.

  135. FincaInTheMountains December 9, 2016 at 10:18 am #

    The World Trade War begins in two days?

    December 11, 2016 is being expected with tension and fear. Why? Because by the terms of the agreement China entered into fifteen years ago with WTO, it should receive (or not) the status of “market economy” no later than December 11, 2016. It still does not have one.

    According to WTO rules, member states of this organization can apply measures to protect their markets from the products exported from those countries that are not “market economies.”

    It is believed that those countries that do not have a “market economy” status, in one form or another support their exporters. We are talking about different forms of subsidies from the state, including such hidden forms as tax relief. WTO is most suspicious of the enterprises of the public sector. And those are too many in China among exporters.

  136. fodase December 9, 2016 at 11:11 am #

    The election of Donald Trump has brought with it a surge in optimism in the United States over the economy and stocks not seen in years.
    The CNBC All-America Economic Survey for the fourth quarter found that the percentage of Americans who believe the economy will get better in the next year jumped an unprecedented 17 points to 42 percent, compared with before the election. It’s the highest level since President Barack Obama was first elected in 2008.

    roaring economy roaring right back along with roaring optimism because we now have rational folks in charge who know how to make things actually work.

    lefty loons know nothing about economics – just let people keep 80-90% of what they earn and you’ll have permanent high employment and high tax revenues from all the buying-selling-investment.

    ….a simple concept lefties will never understand

    Sooooo nice to see competent adults in charge again!

    Sieg Heil Herr Präsident Trump!

  137. capt spaulding December 9, 2016 at 12:05 pm #

    Wow. No sense of humor eh? Maybe you should get a copy of “500 YEARS OF GERMAN HUMOR”, It’s a paperback book with one page.

  138. FincaInTheMountains December 9, 2016 at 1:39 pm #

    Hillary Clinton signed the act of capitulation

    Feinstein: Clinton has ‘accepted’ the election results

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein had dinner privately for an hour Thursday with Hillary Clinton, saying the former Democratic presidential nominee is resigned to the outcome of the elections but taking some time off to recuperate.


    Feinstein is a woman who was the head of the congressional committee on business intelligence and security services. In 2008, she was the main sponsor of the agreement between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, according to which Barack Obama became the nominee of the Democratic Party for the US presidency, and after defeating McCain he would appoint Hillary Secretary of State, and then engage in domestic US issues, in particular first cupping and then overcoming the consequences of the economic crisis named after Lehman Brothers.

    And Hillary received under this arrangement Secretary of State position and the right to steer US foreign policy, in particular the relationship with the President of Tunisia Zine Ben Ali, Egypt’s President Mubarak, President Gaddafi of Libya, Syrian President Assad.

  139. bibliomaniac December 9, 2016 at 1:51 pm #

    “The good thing about science is that it is true, whether you believe in

    it or not.”

    …Neil deGrasse Tyson

    • Cold N. Holefield December 9, 2016 at 2:05 pm #

      That’s not true.

    • janet December 9, 2016 at 2:32 pm #

      Science is unable to set its own priorities. It is also incapable of determining what to do with its discoveries… which may be responsible for the death of the planet.

      Scientific research can flourish only in alliance with some religion or ideology. The ideology justifies the costs of the research. In exchange, the ideology influences the scientific agenda and determines what to do with the discoveries.

      To our great detriment, imperialism and capitalism have been the controlling forces these last 500 years. Empire and capital have been the forces deciding who gets funding for science… science in the service of destruction of the ecosystem upon which our very survival depends.

    • elysianfield December 9, 2016 at 5:59 pm #

      “I’m gonna kick your ass, Bitch!”

      …Mike Tyson

    • thwack December 9, 2016 at 9:48 pm #

      According to science (Darwinian evolution), given enough time, anything is possible.

      So if you throw enough decks of cards up in the air for enough billions of years, sooner or later one deck will land in the shape of the Eiffel Tower.

      That sounds like a religion?

      Now I know what you’re thinking…

      What does this hafta do with race?

      Well thats my point.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 10, 2016 at 12:45 am #

        No, actually. There’s isn’t infinite time: each Universe only has so many billions of years after all. Ours had a beginning and it will have an end. There isn’t enough time for Monkeys to type Shakespeare or a hurricane to produce a Cathedral – or for blind evolution to produce human beings. There is a Will behind evolution and the Darwinian stuff is only part of the story.

        Are dogs and wolves the same species? They can interbreed together but their behavior is so different. Ditto Chimps and Bonobos. Ditto Whites and Blacks. Apart from Political Correctness, we would be considered separate species. Genetically we may be further apart than Chimps and Bonobos in fact.

        • thwack December 10, 2016 at 9:24 am #

          “There is a Will behind evolution and the Darwinian stuff is only part of the story.” –Janus

          This is interesting Janus, please continue with your equivocation festival so we can all understand your cartoon like existence.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 10, 2016 at 3:46 pm #

            That all ya got? Weak, Shift, weak.

        • K-Dog December 11, 2016 at 8:20 am #

          Genetically we may be further apart than Chimps and Bonobos.

          Two paragraphs to set up your shtick. It’s true; setup is important and It’s not so easy to do when you are trying to make a turd smell like a rose.

          Good job that setup of confusion was well done! Thanks for the chuckle and I hope things are well with you.

          Someday a monkey on a keyboard is going to post a comment in here.

          • K-Dog December 11, 2016 at 8:22 am #

            Oh wait thats you; it already has happened!

  140. janet December 9, 2016 at 1:55 pm #

    “Hillary is resigned to the outcome of the elections” –finca

    There is a cliche, finca, that the only poll that counts in the one in Nov.

    On Nov. 8, 2016 Hillary got more votes than Donald. So why shouldn’t she accept the outcome? She won the popular vote by three million votes.

    2016 Presidential Election Popular vote

    Trump … 62,859,071

    Clinton … 65,537,110


    Trump … 46.08%

    Clinton … 48.04%

    So far, the outcome favors Clinton in the popular vote.

    Which one will be sworn in on Jan. 20, 2017 will not be known officially until the electoral college votes on Dec. 19, 2016. May the best candidate win in the electoral college.

    Hillary’s place in history is already assured. She is the first woman to win the most popular votes in a USA presidential election, more than any of the male candidates running for president.

    • Q. Shtik December 9, 2016 at 3:46 pm #

      She is the first woman to win the most popular votes in a USA presidential election, – Janet


      ^THAT^ plus $2.00 will get you a ride on the subway.

      • Frankiti December 9, 2016 at 5:28 pm #

        It’s WPA, but humor it…

      • thwack December 9, 2016 at 6:24 pm #

        She is the first woman to win the most popular votes in a USA presidential election, – Janet

        She also won the most felon votes,

        dead person votes,

        illegal alien votes

        dual citizen votes

        kangaroo votes

        Popularity = low/no qualifications.

    • elysianfield December 9, 2016 at 6:02 pm #

      “Hillary’s place in history is already assured. She is the first woman to win the most popular votes in a USA presidential election, more than any of the male candidates running for president.”

      “She came… We voted…She died!” (giggle…)

      • janet December 9, 2016 at 8:55 pm #

        She’ll be back! (giggle)

        Hillary Clinton’s election defeat had many pundits declaring the Clinton era finally over. But a series of meetings with key Democratic donors and leaders – combined with still-fawning press coverage and even a quirky social media project driven by a longtime aide – are raising questions about what’s next.

        A return to the speaking circuit? Advocacy work? Assuming the role of elder stateswoman? Or even, a 2020 presidential run?

        “I think if she wants to run again, and my guess is she probably does, because they always do, then yes I think she’s doing a good job laying the groundwork,” Brad Bannon, Democratic strategist and CEO of Bannon Communications Research, told FoxNews.com.

        What’s next for Hillary? Latest moves indicate Clinton won’t fade away –FoxNews, Dec. 9, 2016

        • Q. Shtik December 9, 2016 at 9:32 pm #

          a 2020 presidential run?

          What’s next for Hillary?


          Oh goody!! She can be the next Harold Stassen.

  141. Janos Skorenzy December 9, 2016 at 4:02 pm #


    Good review of what we know as of now. Hillary came out today and called the whole thing Fake News. They’re terrified of this and she herself might be involved. Podesta has dropped out of sight.

    • janet December 9, 2016 at 4:23 pm #

      ^THAT^ plus $2.00 will get you a ride on the subway.

      • Cold N. Holefield December 9, 2016 at 4:40 pm #

        And, if Edgar Welch is any indication, some lead with your pizza to accompany the pepperoni and anchovies.

    • malthuss December 9, 2016 at 9:33 pm #

      She is involved.

      There is a book by a ‘sex slave’ that points to
      some really evil things w Hillary.

      Here, my Dear, http://www.savethemales.ca/000683.html

  142. janet December 9, 2016 at 5:04 pm #

    Enjoy contraction. Don’t think the great contraction, the long emergency, is going to stop because presidents change. The reflection by Morris Berman is still relevant:

    “All things ‘go’ somewhere: they evolve, with or without us, into new forms. So as the decades pass, we should try not always to futilely fight these transformations. As the Japanese know, there is much unnoticed beauty in wabi-sabi–the old, the worn, the tumble-down, those things beginning their transformation into something else. We can embrace this process of devolution: embellish it when strength avails, learn to love it.

    “There is beauty in weathered and unpainted wood, in orchards overgrown, even in abandoned cars being incorporated into the earth. Let us learn…to put unwise or unneeded roads ‘to bed,’ help a little in the healing of the natural contours, the re-vegetation by native plants. Let us embrace decay, for it is the source of all new life and growth.”

    Mono no aware, the Japanese call it: the somewhat melancholy awareness of the impermanence of things. There will be something of great value on the other side of the Great Watershed we are facing, I’m convinced of it. Perhaps, Japan offers a clue to what it might be.

    (c)Morris Berman, 2012

  143. Frankiti December 9, 2016 at 5:26 pm #

    Trump leaning towards Exxon Mobile suit as secretary of state… stocking the swamp LOL.

    I didn’t have any hopes for this guy changing the status quo, but you suckers that did. Wow.

    I’m happy that he drove off the Clintons and the apologist party for some time, but he really mad e a fool off the true believers.

    Ahhh.. that’s all right, them “folk” are used to it.

  144. Q. Shtik December 9, 2016 at 7:37 pm #

    In the past I have expressed a desire that, should we live more than one life, I wanted to come back as Eric Clapton. Well, I’ve changed my mind. I want to come back as Boris Johnson.


  145. janet December 10, 2016 at 12:17 am #

    “She is involved.” –malthuss

    Malthuss, Hillary is not involved, the Protocols of Zion is a hoax, a “proven forgery” concocted by the Tsarist Political Police (the Okhrana) to incite anti Semitism.

    Jews do not dominate the world. The Protocols are fakes. The Illuminati do not exist. There is no master plan. Get a grip, man.

    There are no FEMA camps, there are no tunnels connecting abandoned Walmarts, there are no UFOs, Obama did not confiscate your guns, Agenda 21 is not an evil plot, and Satan does not exist.

    Pizzagate is a debunked conspiracy theory. You are brainwashed by Henry Makow’s and Alex Jones’ disinformation propaganda.

    • PeteAtomic December 11, 2016 at 10:08 am #

      ha ha

      good post, there.

      Although there just might be tunnels under Walmart. I wouldn’t put much past that insidious corporation. It would probably be where they put all the bodies of their old “greeters” LOL

  146. BackRowHeckler December 10, 2016 at 1:44 am #

    What the hell is this?

    In Germany, Angela ‘Burhka’ Merkel is banning the Burkha?


  147. BackRowHeckler December 10, 2016 at 1:56 am #

    I figured by now she’d be making the Burkha mandatory apparel for all German women appearing in public.

    Election time must be rolling around.

    in Sweden, the Minister of Education has suggested all crosses be removed from Lutheran Churches, lest they make the Muzzies feel uncomfortable. Next step, bolt on some minarets. Anybody who objects is a hateful xenophobe, and can expect a not so friendly visit from the DIVERSITY POLICE (like we have on American college campuses)


  148. Janos Skorenzy December 10, 2016 at 4:05 am #


    The whole of the West is now ruled by the Illuminati, the Judeo-Masonic Elite. This is what you replaced Christianity with. We need to return to it – and reopen the Inquisition. As Christ said, better that you be throw into the depths of the sea with a millstone around your neck than to offend even one of these little ones.

    • malthuss December 10, 2016 at 11:41 am #

      Woman investigator killed in Haiti, recently.

  149. FincaInTheMountains December 10, 2016 at 4:55 am #

    Checkmate in Aleppo

    The rapid liberation by the Syrian (and more precisely the Syrian-Russian-Iranian-Iraqi-Lebanese) army of Aleppo is difficult to overestimate. And it’s not even that the largest city in the north of the country, once a former economic capital of the Republic, returned under the control of official Damascus (in the last 24 hours of the Syrian army has released more than a third of the territory under the militants).

    The fact is that the successful operation seriously changes the balance of power on the Syrian map.

    Moscow showed that (in contrast to the US, still squirming under Mosul) it is capable of planning complicated operations for taking large cities – it is no secret that a plan for the liberation of Aleppo was developed by the Russian General Staff. Moreover, even a planned provocation in the form of murder of Russian physicians has not led to a sharp radicalization in the position of Moscow – Kremlin, as before, ready to negotiate with the sane part of the surviving fighters and NATO Special Forces in Aleppo, who want to continue to stay alive.

    Although it may be worth to sound very small additional condition – the proposal to withdraw from Aleppo does not apply to those involved in the death of the Russian medics.

  150. FincaInTheMountains December 10, 2016 at 5:57 am #

    Aleppo remake of “Saving “Private Ryan”

    All that howling of Western politicians and media regarding Russian and Syrian “atrocities” in Aleppo is pursuing a single goal – saving “Private Ryan”, who are now blocked in Aleppo.

    Save at any cost – by threatening sanctions, howling about “the poor Syrian children” and outright threats, as capturing of NATO Rambos should be avoided at all costs.

    And they do not even care about their soldiers, everything is much simpler – it is one thing if the Americans will be taken by the Syrians who they could bargain with, but “heroes” getting caught by Iranians/Hezbollah and the world could learn a lot of interesting details about the real actions of the “champions of democracy”.

  151. FincaInTheMountains December 10, 2016 at 6:06 am #

    The USSR went from global behemoth to chest-beating weakling, capable only of taking on pissants like the Ukraine and Syria (watch the Russians sinking into THAT quagmire glub, glub) == Volodya

    So, who is doing “glub, glub” now?

  152. FincaInTheMountains December 10, 2016 at 9:49 am #

    Breath of fresh air in the garbage

    In Ukraine, flash mobs carried out so often that they have no interest to anyone. But this one stands out.

    The clip was filmed by the channel TV5 Zaporozhye, owned by Ukrainian oligarch Rinat Akhmetov. And it was timed to anniversary of steel factory “Zaporizhstal”, which belongs to the same oligarch.

    Students obviously came in an organized fashion and probably not for free. But the eyes of the bystanders listening to this 70 year-old Soviet song say that this event was for them a breath of fresh air in the garbage…


  153. thwack December 10, 2016 at 10:29 am #

    Speaking of the deepening deep state, Wikipedia has a page called “List of unrecovered flight recorders.”

    Included on that list are both flight 11 and flight 175, which are alleged to have hit the North and South World Trade Center Towers respectively.

    In addition, regarding flight 77 which is alleged to have hit the Pentagon, the page says this:

    “Recovered recorders are not always able to definitively identify, however, the causes of an accident. Recorders successfully recovered can be too damaged to be read, or may have missing data caused by power loss, as with TWA Flight 800, (and) American Airlines Flight 77,”

    So out of 4 aircraft lost on September 11th, the cause for 3 of them are based on terrorist narratives that are themselves based on guess work and speculation?

    Regarding flight 93, the article states:

    “The FBI initially refused to release the voice recording, rejecting requests by Congresswoman Ellen Tauscher and family members of those on board.[105] The FBI subsequently allowed the relatives of the Flight 93 victims to listen to the recording in a closed session on April 18, 2002.”

    Does anyone else find the FBI’s behavior strange?

    If you were conducting an investigation of this event, wouldn’t you want the help of the passengers families in identifying the voices heard during the so called “struggle” in the cockpit?

    Why did they even bother with an investigation?

    They could have just made a movie about it?

  154. ghostlimb December 10, 2016 at 10:30 am #

    The Deep State is becoming the operating system of a shadow government – a reverse contact-shadow more than a drop shadow – with the armature and apparatus of operations in the cloud, within bunkered mountains and most often simply hidden in plain sight.

    As JHK has chronicled in time lapse over recent years, the diminishing role of the federal government and the global consumer-goods economy is putting the onus on our forgotten citizenry – formerly known as the middle class – to make unwelcome choices.

    Relocalizing the American economy will mean people dealing with the shock of not being able to have it both ways – regardless of what the new POTUS administration promises. The Walmart and big-box store addicted shoppers – many of whom want jobs jobs jobs are the same people who refuse to pay 5-cents more for something from a local, independent grocer, bookseller, or hardware store. Not being able to have it both ways will present that kind of psychic implosion JHK, JMGreer, RHeinberg, NTalib and others have signaled for decades.

    • FincaInTheMountains December 10, 2016 at 11:26 am #

      [They say] if you had not had the Protective Tariff things would be a little cheaper. Well, whether a thing is cheap or dear depends upon what we can earn by our daily labor. Free trade cheapens the product by cheapening the producer. Protection cheapens the product by elevating the producer. Under free trade the trader is the master and the producer the slave. Protection is but the law of nature, the law of self-preservation, of self-development, of securing the highest and best destiny of the race of man.

      President William McKinley

      • Cold N. Holefield December 10, 2016 at 1:08 pm #

        You’re a funny guy, Finca. Nice to know you’re paying attention. Tell Vladimir I said hey.

  155. elysianfield December 10, 2016 at 10:33 am #

    .B O H I C (A)

    “A report in the New York Times says the agencies had “high confidence” about Russian involvement in hacking.

    A CIA assessment reported by the Washington Post made similar findings.

    Obama ordered an investigation, to be conducted to resolution before Trump’s swearing in, as to whether the Godless Russkies were able to shift the results of the election to Trump.

    (Insert opinion here)

    • FincaInTheMountains December 10, 2016 at 11:14 am #

      One of the reasons why Donald Trump not favor the CIA Intelligence briefings.

      When the CIA officers came to brief then candidate for the post of President Donald Trump and began with similar statements, supplemented by deciphering the name of the mysterious country, the future president broke out:

      “And now you tell me that I am a bleeping Russian spy?! Go bleep yourself you mother-bleepers!” And kicked ‘em out!

      CIA is a former Clinton eparchy. Most likely, the hacking was done by NSA through their Echelon system, and, in my opinion, on the orders from Obama.

    • Cold N. Holefield December 10, 2016 at 1:12 pm #

      My opinion? The Russkies are no longer Godless. They’ve gotten Religion in more ways than one. As well, a little advice for Orange Julius — it’s probably not wise to put another person’s gun, one they’re holding by the way, in your mouth unless you specifically ordered the Lead Sandwich with Ketchup.

      • elysianfield December 10, 2016 at 1:34 pm #

        I certainly agree that the Russians are not godless…probably never were…”Godless Commies” was an often used construct from the good ol’ days…’60’s…it kind of “rolls off the tongue” and I consider it humorous.

  156. janet December 10, 2016 at 10:54 am #

    “Anybody who objects is a hateful xenophobe, and can expect a not so friendly visit from the DIVERSITY POLICE (like we have on American college campuses)”

    LOL! College diversity is not being imposed by law nationwide from the White House. You want to avoid it just don’t voluntarily enroll and don’t voluntarily pay thousands of dollars to be in that microclimate.

    The Trump transition team is compiling a list of all the scientists in the Obama administration related to global warming. Trump is going to purge climate scientists to an extent that Stalin would envy. The global warming “cult” is going to be eliminated. Oil is going to be king again. Damn the CO2. Buy stocks in gas masks.

  157. bibliomaniac December 10, 2016 at 11:43 am #

    “Much has been written lately about what Trump’s victory reveals about the electorate’s relationship with the truth…The problem is not just that too many do not seem to care about the truth, it’s that a lot of people–an increasing number of them in high government positions–insist that their ravings are true…This naturally brings them into conflict with those whose job it is to distinguish fact from fiction.”

    Elizabeth Kolbert “The Sixth Extinction” 2015 Pulitzer Prize Winner

    • Cold N. Holefield December 10, 2016 at 1:06 pm #

      This is very true, but give me an example of someone who’s job it is to distinguish fact from fiction. You can’t. No such job exists in this System. Sure, the Fourth Estate pretends it’s its job, but it’s really not. Its job is to mix truth with a dash of falsehood that leads the audience to a desired false conclusion and perverted worldview. Those of us who attempt to distinguish fact from fiction do it as a hobby because this System ensures you’ll never be remunerated for such a noble endeavor. It’s a System of Whores, Pimps and Johns. It always has been to one degree or another, and yet we have the temerity to use the word civilized as though it’s a positive attribute.

      • bibliomaniac December 10, 2016 at 1:50 pm #

        Cold: Let’s start with Copernicus, Galileo, Newton, Einstein, Oppenheimer, Hawking, Piers Forster, Joe Farman, Richard Dawkins, Brian Greene….

        As for the so-called “4th estate”–their business is to create fiction out of fact.

        No authentic journalistic believes that serving the powerful is part of their calling.

        As Chris Hedges remarks. “Those in power fear and dislike (authentic) journalists–and they should.”

        Why do you suppose Trump attempts to ridicule journalists?

        Genuine journalism (if such still exists) is our only way to protect what is left of the 1st Amendment.

        Hitler’s success depended largely on his Minister of Propaganda.

        • Cold N. Holefield December 10, 2016 at 3:20 pm #

          There’s an inherent conflict of interest when anyone endeavors to separate and distinguish fact from fiction and they do it for remuneration. In the case of a scientist, these days at least, they rely on grants and that money directs their research. That money, the scientist’s remuneration, taints his/her work. They have to remain within the confines of the research and the stated mission of it, but what if the research takes them elsewhere — to an outcome that is not in the best interests of the benefactor funding the research? It’s more than likely, or most always, abandoned and the scientists direct their efforts elsewhere.

          As for journalists, the same applies. Even Hedges. He writes books & articles. He’s remunerated for his “journalism.” He’s developed a following and an audience who remunerate him by paying to read his words. He knows they butter his bread so he writes what he believes they want to read, and thus he is held captive by the audience he caters to and his ability to distinguish fact from fiction is compromised in favor of selling books.

          As for Oppenheimer, he spoke his greatest truth in the following YouTube video, and, ironically and fittingly, he wasn’t paid to say it. It was directly from his conscience to you and me and the Universe at large.

          Oppenheimer’s Greatest & Most Profound Truth

          • bibliomaniac December 10, 2016 at 7:12 pm #

            Cold: I’m glad to be on the same page with somebody in this forum. I agree up to a point–except for many of the climate scientists, who are a direct threat to the oil cartel. Exxon is in fact trying to subpoena some of them for interfering with their “business” of destroying the planet, and for revealing that Exxon has been lying this many years.

            Meanwhile, there are chunks of Antarctica the size of India floating around in the ocean.

            There is also “the list” which you may have heard of, now composed of about 200 so-called “liberal” professors who are spreading something that conservative students have identified as “un-American.” Sounds like McCarthyism to me. One history professor, who had the audacity to suggest that there were some similarities between the US today and Germany in the 30’s was removed from class for opening his mouth.

            As for Hedges, I think his “Empire of Illusion” is possibly the most relevant book to date on what is now happening with Trump: “Washington has become our Versailles. We are ruled, entertained, and informed by courtiers–and the media has evolved into a class of courtiers. The Democrats, like the Republicans, are mostly courtiers. Our pundits and experts, as least those with prominent public platforms, are courtiers. We are captivated by the hollow stagecraft of political theater as we are ruthlessly stripped of power. It is smoke and mirrors, tricks and con games, and the purpose behind it is deception.”

        • thwack December 10, 2016 at 7:05 pm #

          “Hitler’s success depended largely on his Minister of Propaganda.”

          Hillary’s failure depended largely on her getting high on her own supply. Towards the end she was even eating her own feces with a fork and knife.

          Despite the odds, somehow she managed to lose the election to an orange buffoon with a fifth grade vocabulary and a wife who sounds like Dracula.

          (((shakin my head)))

      • thwack December 10, 2016 at 7:11 pm #

        The best way to mislead people is with true statements.

        That don’t teach that in law school; but every good lawyer knows its the only way to stack major coin.

  158. bibliomaniac December 10, 2016 at 11:46 am #

    Democracy’s final product: those who insist that their ignorance is just as good as other people’s knowledge.

    • Cold N. Holefield December 10, 2016 at 3:33 pm #

      Yes, Democracy is only as effective as the people who comprise it. If you have a population that’s had its intellectual capacity neutered via miseducation and misinformation, and further, stripped of any semblance of a life lived according to Principle, then Democracy is as deadly a weapon as any political ideology.

      But America is not a Democracy. I don’t think it ever was, but it’s certainly not now, so it’s rather a moot point to mention it as though it’s relevant to our predicament.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 10, 2016 at 3:48 pm #

        It was never supposed to be a Democracy, isn’t, and that’s a good thing – for the reasons you mention. The Founders would have concurred.

      • bibliomaniac December 11, 2016 at 7:38 am #

        Granted–we are not a democracy, nor have we ever been. My allusion was a clumsy stab at Isaac Asimov’s remark about how ant-intellectualism is nurtured by the false notion that democracy means my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.

        It’s clear to me a least that the idiocracy in this country now controls the narrative, and the idiocracy is controlled by spectacle. Spectacle and conspiracy nutters have triumphed over literacy. Corporations, alas, control the spectacle, much like the Romans were kept quiet watching lions in the coliseum, or the Germans watching Hitler’s rallies.

        Our spectacle, alas, is 24/7 and the morass of mass media has lulled us all into a comatose state of stupidity.

        “Words,” said Alice. “the question is, can you make words mean so many different things?” “The question is, said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master?”

  159. FincaInTheMountains December 10, 2016 at 12:03 pm #

    After defeat of Clinton, Western Black Project is trying to get a foothold in … Russia?

    Yesterday all day I was listening on the Russian television arguments about how Obama has signed a law allowing the delivery of portable air defense systems to Syrian “moderate” rebels, a.k.a ISIS. Meanwhile, Obama did not sign anything like that.

    This bill passed the Senate and Congress, in which Clintonoids still rule, but it has no force while the President did not sign it. Moreover, pro-Trump media reported that the law was specifically designed running into a presidential veto, and then use this veto to finally mix Obama with dirt for his betrayal of Wicked Witch of the West, which they are so fond of.


    In any case, the number of the bill in the Senate in 2943 and in Congress 4909, and no trace of it being signed by the president relevant sites do not carry. And if Obama signed it into a law, for me personally it would mean that Hillary again controls the White House. For Trump signing of such a bill would mean that the peaceful transfer of power from Obama to him is highly questionable.

    The question arises: why all Russian television channels so blatantly lie?

    In my opinion they are in Bastinda’s favorite style trying to use Clinton-caused anti-Americanism against America of Donald Trump. This means that while Russians celebrate Trump victory, at their home Trouble is brewing with a capital letter.

    Meanwhile, Ukraine has clearly shown that if the Black Project is not crushed in the cradle, then later it can only be stopped with a lot of blood.

  160. janet December 10, 2016 at 12:45 pm #

    Trump is not president, but his president-elect kleptocracy is in full swing, playing favorites, using government power to pick winners and losers, blacklist companies, award contracts, incite his twitter army bully opponents, and all with the goal to increase Trump’s personal profit…. not to make America great. Corruption and violence, in other words.

    • thwack December 10, 2016 at 6:53 pm #

      Like I said, we just elected our 1st African “Big Man” president.

      Think about it?

      It took a white man to be the 1st black president.

      You can’t make this sh*t up.

      Meanwhile, Janos has the nerve to call me “shift the ape?”

      Donald Trump is all 3 billy goats, the bridge, and the troll, all wrapped up in a single person.

      I must confess Trump is entertaining and exciting Titanic sort of way; I got bored with everyone fellating Obama like he was president of the world…


      Plus his support and defense of all things sodomatic is annoying to black people.

      According to the president of Gambia, LGBT stands for:





      • Janos Skorenzy December 11, 2016 at 1:46 am #

        I like the President of Gambia. I like George Bailey!

        Now Thwack, be fair. What did you call me first? You need to read the book, “Everything I need to know I learned in Kindergarten”.

        If allowed to, the Liberals will go on a Crusade against Black Africa to make them like Gays. In other words, Gays now outrank you in the Hierarchy of Hell. They spent a few million in Kenya and it freaked the people out. They responded by doubling down on Gays. Billions will have to be spent and then trillions – and of course hundred of thousands of troops and then millions.

        Am I the only one who mourns for the millions killed by the Muslim Jihad against Black Africa? I worked briefly with a Sunni from Sudan. He said of South Sudan: some of them are Christian and some of them are “nothing”. The way he said “nothing” was chilling. The Animists have no right to exist in Muslim eyes.

  161. janet December 10, 2016 at 12:55 pm #

    Rep. Sam Johnson (R-Texas), chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee’s Subcommittee on Social Security, released a plan Thursday to gut Social Security and drastically reduce benefits

    “As Congressional Republicans prepare to dismantle Medicare and Medicaid, it now appears that Social Security has been added to the Republicans’ chopping block,” Rep. Richard Neal said in a statement Friday. “America’s seniors will be alarmed to hear that the top Republican on this important Subcommittee quietly put forward a plan to drastically cut Social Security benefits for millions of seniors.”

    “Democrats will fight any effort to undercut Social Security, just as we will fight any plan to replace Medicare with a voucher,” he added.

    Another Trump promise trashed… he was only kidding about protecting Social Security.

  162. elysianfield December 10, 2016 at 1:28 pm #

    I am not a conspiracy guy…I don’t see hidden meaning on soap boxes, the pizza commercials etc. and except for the voices in my head, I consider myself…centered. However….

    The investigation (reported on the BBC) that Obama has mandated be concluded before the Inauguration…what conclusions will be drawn if/when the inevitable results show foreign meddling resulting in the election’s result being skewered? Why this determination BEFORE the Inauguration? The forgone conclusion is that the “Godless Commies” (Russians) will be saddled with the blame. What might Obama do to “rectify” the situation…to ensure that the people’s vote, the popular vote, be “heard”?

    Also I consider why Trump’s Cabinet and inner circle now has three well-respected(by the military) Generals on tap. Is this a happy coincidence? Or a preparation for something ugly?

    As this “Beast slouches towards Bethlehem”, I am becoming concerned…almost fearful.

    • janet December 10, 2016 at 1:37 pm #

      What if the investigation reveals that it wasn’t Russia? What if the hackers were North Korean or Iranian? Would you feel any differently about a foreign power interfering in American elections to put in office the candidate they favor?

      To me it doesn’t matter who did it..it’s not about Russia. The American peoples’ will was violated. I grew up hearing how everyone was so proud of the fact that so many have died to protect the right of the American people to decide. Fighting for freedom. Fighting for liberty. Fighting for the right to vote. Fighting for democracy. Those were the justifications for sending Americans to fight and die.

      Now that American sovereignty has been compromised, by foreign powers. All those American soldiers have died in vain.

      • elysianfield December 10, 2016 at 2:22 pm #

        “What if the investigation reveals that it wasn’t Russia? What if the hackers were North Korean or Iranian? Would you feel any differently about a foreign power interfering in American elections to put in office the candidate they favor?”

        I would not even consider your premise, if true, worthy of undue concern…that is what we, and all other countries do (or would do) if able. What I am concerned about is the incessant drumbeat of the Democrats to vilify Russia, and maybe take direct action as a result of their “findings”. It would be impossible to quantify the “aberration” that might have resulted from various Emails..but it might offer an excuse for “rectification” of the apparent results.

      • PeteAtomic December 11, 2016 at 10:18 am #

        A little overdramatic, isn’t it?

        I suppose you are right if the argument is that stealing info about criminal behavior engaged by a presidential candidate is wrong.

        American soldiers aren’t fighting and dying for Hillary Clinton.

        God, I sure hope not.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 10, 2016 at 3:54 pm #

      Yes, the Elite may feel they have gone too far and too fast in their destruction of America. They may still need some strength here, and Trump may be a way of supplying that. Some of his picks are fine, but obviously too many Jews and Neo Cons. Putz for Secretary of Labor is an abomination: he’s for open borders and the lowest possible wages for America. Nothing for Kobach, the best man on immigration, Trump’s singular issue.

      He does seem serious about keeping industry here and at least some control of immigration. That will strengthen us, but for what? War with Iran, perhaps?

    • Q. Shtik December 10, 2016 at 5:07 pm #

      …results show foreign meddling resulting in the election’s result being [skewered]? – elysian



      • elysianfield December 10, 2016 at 6:26 pm #

        Skewed is, of course, correct. I have been skewered, and publicly.

  163. fodase December 10, 2016 at 2:08 pm #

    Trump leaning towards Exxon Mobile suit as secretary of state… stocking the swamp LOL.

    or maybe tapping someone with lots of experience dealing with the interplay of oil and politics and who personally knows lots of folks he’ll be dealing with

    is everyone nefarioius just because they’re at the top of the food chain?

    who do you want to see as SOS?

    give the president elect a chance before you kibosh him

    • thwack December 11, 2016 at 5:35 pm #

      OK, I’ll give Trump a chance; but I draw the line at having Mike Tyson as secretary of ANYTHING.

  164. fodase December 10, 2016 at 2:11 pm #

    Now that American sovereignty has been compromised, by foreign powers.

    oh yes, let’s keep up the fake meme that the election was thrown by foreigners, preferably the russkies

    …while we have videos with scheming democrat bigwigs openly bragging about the voter fraud they commit

    keep deluding yourself.

    Herr Trump won and now he’s going to govern, once he starts making decisions and enacting policy we’ll see whether he’s good or not

    your side, janetwpacccasoka, performed in ghastly manner and the entire US and A is now breathing a sigh of relief that they trash has finally been placed on the kerb

  165. janet December 10, 2016 at 2:36 pm #

    “once he starts making decisions … we’ll see whether he’s good or not” –finca

    No, he is making decisions right now. He can be judged by his actions right now.

    One of Trump’s central tenets was that the American economy is being destroyed by unfair competition from foreign workers.

    Trump has hired hundreds of foreign individuals on temporary visas to staff his Mar-a-Lago resort despite the availability and interest of local native-born American workers.

    This week Trump is hiring more foreign workers to staff Mar-a-Lago this winter. This despite what one placement agency describes as the availability of “hundreds of qualified candidates” locally for the relevant positions.

    Trump is not making America great again, but he is increasing his personal profit.