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The Blob and Its Mobs

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     In normal times we anticipate the splendid gluttony of the American Thanksgiving, the fellowship of family and friends, with gratitude and remembrance of overcoming ordeals past. This year, though, we are a bit preoccupied with ordeals to come, and that nip in the November air conjures rumors of approaching hardship and cruelties we have no idea how we might overcome. These are not normal times.

    What was normal, anyway? The second half of the twentieth century in Western Civ, the cornucopia of post-war America, paychecks that covered the house, the car, assured square meals, and quite a bit left over for Disneyworld, a place at the lake with a speedboat, and four seats at the ballpark. Normal was keeping a lid on discontent in foreign lands and containing our wicked obverse enemy, the Soviet communists. Normal was mom and dad together under one roof, expecting strangers to behave decently, order outside the home. Normal was thinking all that would last forever.

     I idealize a bit. But many of you will recognize at least some of that being present in your lives for a while, at least. And you might agree that it all started breaking badly in the new century, clearly marked by the attacks of nine-eleven. What followed that wondrous enormity was the amazing and nauseating transfiguration of our country into the opposite of the old normal: broad financial desperation, broken families, strangers bent on homicide and mayhem, official tyranny of all kinds, immersive lying, failed institutions, foolish wars, nothing and no one to believe in, and the creeping suspicion that mysterious evil forces are running it all.

     Somehow, we have managed to become our old enemy, the Soviets. The sprawling bureaucracy I call the blob has a blank check to control everything we do, to usurp our individual economic decisions, intrude on our very bodies, snatch us from our homes or lock us up in them, and force us to shut-up about all that. Unlike the Soviets, though, our blob is unable to suppress vile civil misbehavior, murder, rape, looting, car-jacking, robbery at the bottom and fraud, bribery, money laundering, insider trading, cyber-Ponzis, and racketeering, at the top. The law is a new wilderness of iniquity. Show me the man and I’ll find a crime to pin on him, Stalin’s KGB chief liked to say. Merrick Garland seems to like that method, too.

     The people of our land look like they are being systematically poisoned (because they are). Our food is poisoned. Our daily bread contains engineered toxic proteins, glyphosate, and heavy metals. All those things will kill you before your time. Our supermarkets are stuffed overwhelmingly with addictive snacks made of corn syrup that turns people into oxen. Americans live on pizza, chips and soda. These things are in their faces at every turn, all day long, hard to resist, especially if your existence is horribly lonely and purposeless.

     The oddest feature of this upheaval is that the revolutionary youth in the streets and on the campuses are on the side of tyranny — as long as they are allowed to do some of the tyrannizing. The mobs and the blob officials mutually reinforce each other. The governor of Oregon, Kate Brown, did everything possible to protect Antifa while they destroyed the city of Portland. Mayor Muriel Bowser had Washington DC’s streets painted boldly to celebrate Black Lives Matter, after they torched the church across the street from the White House, occupied by the wicked Trump. Lately, the Ivy Leaguers stupidly shout for intifada and the allahu akbar of beheading — the innate sadism of Wokery on display for all to see. These mobs got tacit official permission to do their mob thing — except for the crowd that FBI blob agents turned into a mob on January 6, 2021. Permission denied! Instead, the people who “paraded” in the US Capitol got systematically hunted down by Christopher Wray. Can those luckless souls now serving years-long jail sentences possibly feel thankful for being born in the USA?

     Perhaps the anxious gloom pervading this year’s Thanksgiving is due to the dread of what comes next. No one in the public arena says that 2024 will be anything but much worse than what we’ve already lived through in this ongoing crackup of our country, and their expressed utterances are probably not as dark as their private, inner thoughts. The gang behind “Joe Biden” has successfully jacked our country into chaos. Something similar has got Europe and the rest of the Anglosphere in its thrall. Half of the public is grossly misinformed by The News, and swallows every proffered lie. The other half can’t get traction to storm this slippery slope of blob despotism.

     So, the table is set. You have probably commenced the preparations for the ritual meal. We started with the cranberries last night, since the condiment has only two ingredients and would store well for four days. It came out badly. There was some rot in the berries that we couldn’t detect just by looking and sorting out some obviously bad ones. I hear a lot of chatter that the fresh food supply chain in America is broken. The bad link in the chain is apparently the trucking system. The truck lines can’t get enough workers to load the refrigerator trailers, so the fruits and vegetables spend too much time sitting on the loading dock, where they start to . . . turn. You have to wonder if this is a harbinger of greater disruptions to come, maybe widespread hunger, and you know what that leads to.

     We’re going all out for the Thanksgiving feast here, a big fresh turkey, of course, and way more side-dishes than necessary for a dozen friends at the table. I live in a relatively poor county in deep upstate New York and I have to wonder how many people around here will go without a Thanksgiving feast this year, how many are suddenly mired in misfortune, default on a home mortgage, car sliding into the re-po zone, no job, no prospects, in despair, hungry. Perhaps they’ll be drawn to the church basements in town. That might be us next year.

     Those of us outside the blob and their mobs know that our country has to be rebuilt somehow, and that rebuilding it must include assurances of personal liberty. I’m grateful and thankful this year that there are enough of us who understand what’s at stake and are prepared to fight against slithering tyranny. Do you see where things stand this Thanksgiving? It feels like the edge of something because it is the edge of something.

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694 Responses to “The Blob and Its Mobs”

  1. cowbell81 November 20, 2023 at 9:48 am #

    Happy (almost) 83rd Birthday to you Q. Shtik!!! May your day be filled with wine and roses. Only 17 more to go until the big centennial bash!

    • Q. Shtik November 20, 2023 at 1:00 pm #

      Happy (almost) 83rd Birthday to you Q. Shtik!!! – cowbell81


      Thanks cow.

      You are probably aware that “Joe Biden” turned 81 today. And so there is this one day each year in which we are nominally just one year apart and that day is today. Tomorrow we will resume being two years apart.

      • Jarek November 21, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

        Thus you stand on the brink of eternity. You are the glass of milk on the edge of the counter.

        One can only imagine your anger when you find yourself outside your body and not “dead”. You will probably sleep for many centuries until you awaken and get on with it.

        • Q. Shtik November 22, 2023 at 11:35 am #

          Thus you stand on the brink of eternity. – Jar


          Don’t we all?

  2. Mac November 20, 2023 at 9:56 am #

    Happy Thanksgiving all you CFNers!

    • Ron Anselmo November 20, 2023 at 10:06 am #

      Seconded. Even in thin times, we have much to be thankful for. Thanks Jim, for your continually shared intellect & unwavering optimism. Happy Thanksgiving to you and your guests.

    • hmuller November 20, 2023 at 11:50 am #

      That date was Jan 06, 2021. Not 2020.

  3. NickelthroweR November 20, 2023 at 9:58 am #

    I believe and will continue to believe that the truth can be found in the financials and the numbers that surround it. Well, a very important number to look at is the amount of “money” available to the American people. Auto load debt is at a record high. Credit card debt is at a record high. Hell, everything but saving is at a record high.

    Having access to those numbers allows for people with more time than me to figure out the trendline for when the American people hit ZERO – the day when they entirely run out of money.

    When is that day you ask? Well, it is around December 15th give or take a day. That is when the bank accounts will be entirely empty.

    What happens then? People have been watching for 3 years now that theft and rioting go unpunished. Maybe everyone will join in this time and that will be the end of our fabled retail economy. Gone in an instant.

    • JohnAZ November 20, 2023 at 10:30 am #

      THAT day is getting earlier and earlier each year. The federal government’s date is in July now I believe.

      THAT date when you stop paying with income and start paying with debt.

      Imagine that the average on personal debt starts in October, then September, eventually the 20+% of credit car debt is going to force Joe Average to borrow from the future. Where does future money come from?

      US Treasuries eventually. The whole mess is dependent on people’s faith in those worthless pieces of paper. What happens when that bastion is worth 50 cents on the dollar, or less.

      Collapse of the US Treasury, which is coming, will be the WEF, the West and the USA too. BRICS++ will maintain national currencies and be okay.

      The day is coming when strapped Joe Average will go to his IRA, or bank account and only get partial return, same with SSA and Medicare. Right now, the latest estimate for that is ten years from now, by optimistic folks. Panic will ensue and a run will start on the US Treasuries, pensions, 401K and other IRA and retirement funds. When that happens, the end of the West fiscal situation will happen.

      China et al will just smile.

      • jim November 20, 2023 at 1:45 pm #

        John AZ:

        Taken the history of both of our major political parties it should be clear that budgetary constraints are never binding.

        I’m now partial to the perspective that Federal Government budgets are a convenient fiction used by both parties to fight partisan political battles.

        If the votes are there, whether for Defense, for Medicare or Social Security, the money is there.
        This fact also gets into the technical question of how money is created by both the Federal Reserve and our commercial banks.

        In a fundamental sense we are simply dealing with political priorities not financial budgetary constraints.

        What counts is politics (especially foreign policy considerations and other reasons of State.

        What may count the most is not finance (dollars and cents) but industrial and logistical constraints or actual physical production constraints.

        However if the money is not used productively (think runaway inflation or, as you say, the piling up of debt) then we do have serious problems (although perhaps not as immediately dramatic as you often argue.

        You should also ask yourself why the Chinese, since at least 2012, have made most Belt and Road project loans in dollars.

    • Cankerpuss November 20, 2023 at 10:35 am #

      Nickel, it is estimated that privately held debt in America is somewhere between $36 trillion and $72 trillion. I argue that the money is long gone. Americans, by and large, are busted, broke. Monetary amounts this large will never be repaid because the money doesn’t exist to repay them. Most Americans are living a lie. They live in large expansive homes they don’t own. They drive cars they don’t own. They fund vacations on money they didn’t earn. Today many people are funding their groceries using other peoples’ money (credit cards).

      I committed a long time ago to live debt free and I have done so. I’m not wealthy. I live in a simple 1200 square foot home. I drive a 20 year old Toyota Tacoma. But, just being debt free means I have more wealth than 90% of the people living in this Country.

      Other than paying property tax (the most immoral tax we have) I don’t owe another soul anything. It’s a good way to live.

      • rainmaker November 20, 2023 at 10:43 am #

        Canker – agree with you about the immorality of property taxes. Most of it goes to the school systems, with are, in my opinion, nothing more than glorified babysitting centers.

        • JohnAZ November 20, 2023 at 11:36 am #

          Worse than that, rainmaker, they are Deep State indoctrination centers.

          • hmuller November 20, 2023 at 11:58 am #

            So true, JohnAz. The communist vermin running the teachers’ unions need some frontier justice.

          • Mike Sherman November 20, 2023 at 5:55 pm #

            Oops. The ‘vermin’ trope enters CFN. Surprise, surprise.

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 20, 2023 at 8:19 pm #

            I noticed you didn’t have any problem with the “communist” part though, Mike…

          • Tweedledum November 21, 2023 at 7:21 pm #

            The word ‘communist’ around here has an entirely fluid meaning for you MAGAts who use it – it just depends on the narrative’s desired nuance at the time. I have yet to see it correctly applied, ever, in this blog roll.

            “Vermin”, however, is entirely unambiguous and should signal just how fascistic this Clown has become.

          • hmuller November 21, 2023 at 10:44 pm #

            Tweedledick, apparently the word ” fascistic” has a fluid, undefined meaning to you and can be applied to any deplorable MAGA clown making any statement you detest.

            Tomes could be written about the lazy, low standard, woketard teachers’ unions and how they have failed their students.

        • pyrrhus November 20, 2023 at 8:39 pm #

          There are some good ones, but generally your school taxes should go to a school you want, not one that is forced on you…In the old days of my grandparents, the parents paid the schoolmaster directly, and if a kid caused repeated problems, he got the boot..That education was far superior to what we have now in most areas…

      • Jo-G November 20, 2023 at 12:01 pm #

        I also recommend the personal debt free lifestyle. Borrowing money in a business context makes sense, for example to stock inventory or for seed or capitol goods where the bank is essentially a business partner but debt for consumption is not the way to live. We all owe an infinite debt to our parents that can never be repaid and that is enough.

      • NickelthroweR November 20, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

        We live in a debt-based system. An inability to create more debt brings on the Suddenly part Hemmingway is famous for. Americans run out of savings in ~ 3 weeks as they’ve been draining their bank accounts to the tune of 72 billion a month (I believe that is the correct amount) to fund their American Dream but what happens after December when Americans will need to take on 72 billion a month in debt in order to keep things going?

        How much debt can the government, private business, or the American people absorb? Remember, the debt MUST grow or it all collapses and I see little room for debt expansion especially in the corporate sphere as all the Unicorns have flown off into the Sunset.

      • Bobby E November 20, 2023 at 7:14 pm #

        I agree that property tax can be quite the unpleasantly anticipated kick in the groin at the end of the year and can seem downright confiscatory. But living in a state with no taxes, the filling of that pothole has to be paid for somehow. And property taxes go a long way towards that. I really have no problem with paying taxes. I am beside myself with anger and disgust with how they spend them.

        • fugeguy November 21, 2023 at 9:17 am #

          That’s how they get you. Many people already pay three levels of gas taxes (federal, state and local) to maintain the roads.

          Everyone pays federal and state gas taxes for road maintenance.

          Existence taxes are immoral.

      • fugeguy November 21, 2023 at 9:07 am #

        I live the same way.

        The family farm I live on has been in the family since they got off the boats during the civil war. When the county accessor showed up in the 50’s and informed my two great uncles, living there at the time, that the county was going to start taxing them to exist there going forward- the 2 WWI vets called him a thief, physically threw him off the property and told him they would shoot him dead if he came back. Thank god we lived in a more civilized state then so rather than swat teaming and killing them the accessor went to my Grandma and Grandpa and they quietly paid the taxes until Bert and Ernie (real names lol) passed away.

        Point of that story is that as recently as 3 generations ago Americans would never have tolerated things such as property (existence) taxes. Now soon we will be paying a tax for breathing…

      • ZrCrypDiK November 21, 2023 at 6:12 pm #

        Good poast, Ayup – debt peonage. The Banksters and Rentiers take their usury vig!

    • rainmaker November 20, 2023 at 10:39 am #

      Dr D, who comments at The Automatic Earth, says that the main problem with the financialization of everything is that all the collateral on the planet is already spoken for, probably several times over! If he’s right than it’s now the end of the road for the economy. He seems to be saying that that is the reason we needed Ukraine and Russia, so that we could rehypothecate more stuff into the control of the financial system. Can someone explain this? I sorta understand, but…

      • JohnAZ November 20, 2023 at 11:41 am #

        Another author I read a couple of years ago said that the liquidity needed pay the interest payments on the global debt is coming from illicit means, drugs, trafficking, etc. The border is stubbornly being kept open by the PTB to protect the cash flow that is needed by the IMF to keep everyone paid.

        Understanding this makes it easy to understand why Trump must be stopped with his Wall at all costs!!!!

        • RD3 November 20, 2023 at 1:16 pm #

          Catherine Austin Fitts refers to that as “The Red Button.”

        • jim November 21, 2023 at 2:37 pm #

          One alternative way to view the necessary liquidity needed to pay interest payments on our governments global debt is the following:

          Capitalism can be viewed as essentially financial in the sense that the most basic element of the economy is cash flow and the most basic constraint on the behavior of every private economic unit is that cash outflow not exceed cash inflow (just ask any small business owner or any individual consumer).

          However the coordination of such payments for our entire economic system is impossible. If over time the cash flow into a particular economic unit is expected to exceed the cash flow out of that same unit, then whoever owns that unit is said to own a capital asset–and a capital asset is not a concrete thing but only a stream of future net cash flow.

          Finance is so important because it puts order into the anarchy of a decentralized market economy–to try to keep the pattern of cash inflows in line with the pattern of expected cash outflows.

          However, it should aways be kept in mind that the balance between cash commitments and cash flows, for the private sector, runs from fragile to robust. Big and small private profits and big and small bankruptcies are constantly occurring.

          The reason our government is able to prevent a default is that its cash commitments are fundamentally different from those issued in the private sector–for the simple reason that cash is the governments own liability and there can never be a question of our sovereign government not meeting its own liabilities (again, this then gets into the technicals of how money and credit creation actually take place in our economy).

          • ZrCrypDiK November 21, 2023 at 6:17 pm #

            “behavior of every private economic unit is that cash outflow not exceed cash inflow”

            That doesn’t consider going off the gold standard in ’70/71 (fiat money – infinitely printable/digitable)

      • Paddys Lament November 20, 2023 at 11:42 am #

        He probably means that the landmass known as Ukraine will be pledged over to the financial goons like Blackrock, etc.

        • Night Owl November 20, 2023 at 5:21 pm #

          It already was after 2014. That is more or less what the current situation is all about.

      • loosethedogs November 20, 2023 at 1:18 pm #

        Rainmaker: Methinks / Mehopes all this banksterism is going to end with a great revealing of who (or what) REALLY control planet earth. Perhaps it will coincide with a revealing of “other” humanoid type species on this planet who perhaps hang out in the arctic zones. We ARE in the emerging stages from the “dark ages” of the Kali Yuga and new energies are incoming,,,

      • Irish November 21, 2023 at 10:35 am #

        I LOVE the comments made by Dr. D. Who is he? Where is he from? He is absolutely brilliant and I wish he would come here to comment. I don’t understand much of what is featured on The Automatic Earth, but I have set up a shortcut to Dr. D’s comments just so I can read his observations. Glad to know I’m not the only one who follows him.

    • hortonz November 20, 2023 at 11:03 am #

      A brilliant analysis of all that’s troubling folks in Western nations, including people here in Canada. We’ve got the added burden of living under a Woke dictatorship in Ottawa that keeps trying to play both sides of the street but fails badly. Does Trudeau support Israel’s right to exist? He says he does and then holds Israel alone responsible for the atrocities going on in Gaza. Say what? Didn’t Hamas start this conflict when they murdered 1,400 innocent men, women and children just because they were Jewish. Why was there no mention of Hamas using innocent Palestinians as human shields? What about the network of tunnels under schools and hospitals that Hamas has built to carry out their terror attacks? Why didn’t Hamas use their wealth to improve the lives of fellow Palestinians instead of subjecting them to cruelty? And now the brilliant minds in Washington and Ottawa want us to believe that Islamophobia and antisemitism are morally equivalent. Wrong. There’s a lot more terror being visited on Jews today than Muslims in the West and guess what? it’s the Islamists and their supporters who are doing most of it.

      • Jarek November 20, 2023 at 11:46 am #

        A number of big Jewish donors divested from Harvard, sickened by their Islamophillia. But as Tucker and Candace asked, where where they ten years ago when anti-White racism became part of the curriculum?

        Demanding an answer to this is called “taking our own side”. That’s far more important than taking the side of either of these groups.

      • BoomerDoomer3 November 20, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

        Are you aware that Israel funded Hamas at the start? Are you aware that the Israel military killed many of their own citizens and soldiers on October 7. For a more even-handed perspective on the conflict I can recommend videos, articles, and books by Norm Finkelstein, Ron Unz, Aaron Mate, Max Blumenthal, and John Mersheimer. BTW, they are all Jewish…

        • Rain Waters November 20, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

          Thank you for this.

        • UN OUT OF USA November 20, 2023 at 8:48 pm #

          Correct Boomer! I’ve read where this was the brainchild of Netanyahu (funding Hamas) as a way to undermine the Zionist’s old boogeyman, the PLO. Talk about “karma is a bitch”! It reminds me of the USA funding ISIS as a way to undermine Syria. What a fucked up world we live in.

        • benr November 21, 2023 at 7:59 am #

          Imagine that the self-hating Jew much like the self-hating White person who is willing to change history and place all the combined evils of mankind upon the white race.
          Not like they are not willing to lie about anything and everything.

    • Jimpa November 20, 2023 at 11:04 am #

      I read that the increase in credit card debt is more about people using their credit cards more and more for everyday purchases instead of cash. That over 80% of that usage is payed in full at the end of the month and hence is not really debt carried month to month at all.

      I do think the ” financials” do point to severe problems ahead, especially in regards to the Federal debt charts which are now turning into parabolic hockey sticks. Maybe that is the concrete thing that points to when the “end” is. We’ve been hearing about horrendous Federal debt levels for over thirty years though, and nothing’s happened. Are we really approaching the end game now in that regard? I think so, but maybe not for a while.

      • NickelthroweR November 20, 2023 at 12:28 pm #

        Not sure where you get your data but Americans are carrying a balance on ~60% of all active credit cards. The balance owed is now at all-time record levels.

        Suddenly is just around the corner.

        • Jimpa November 20, 2023 at 1:51 pm #

          I sometimes carry substantial balances on my credit cards but pay them off every month. Millions of others do the same. How is that factored in?

      • loosethedogs November 20, 2023 at 2:50 pm #

        Jimpa: C’mon man, “The Minneapolis Fed Chairman said there is an “infinite amount of cash” in a recent interview.” as seen on 60 minutes… Would he lie?

      • Wizard of the Saddle November 22, 2023 at 11:14 am #

        Good point. I’m one of those people. I place almost all of my day to day living expenses on my credit card simply to enjoy the 2% cash back I receive monthly which I apply to my balance when I pay it off each month. It’s a small way to fight inflation. I almost always pay off the whole balance monthly, though I will occasionally carry a balance for a few months if making a major purchase for a necessity like a new bed.

        When I do, all discretionary spending ends until the credit card balance is retired and I only place those types of purchases on new cards that have 0% for 18 months. I always retire the balance long before the intro period expires.

        So, yeah, it makes a difference how one utilizes credit cards. The dumb folks get a card – max it out buying crap they don’t need – and then spend 20 or 30 years trying in vain to retire the balance while being crushed with a 29% interest rate compounding against them constantly.

        In this age of debit and credit cards hardly anyone carries much cash money anymore and whipping out the plastic is just standard purchasing procedure now for 95% of all commerce. More granularity of analysis is needed to assess whether or not Americans are really going more deeply in debt on plastic or not, though I suspect many are.

  4. kidseyedoc November 20, 2023 at 10:03 am #

    Brilliant post. Kunstler keeps getting better and better.

  5. RaymondR November 20, 2023 at 10:10 am #

    Have a Happy Thanksgiving and a happy birthday JHK.

    For all the readers of CFN, I extend a wish for a happy Thanksgiving season. I have seen that gratitude is the best antidote to despair.

    Pray for America

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    • Cankerpuss November 20, 2023 at 10:30 am #

      I pray for America multiple times a day. It seems like God does not listen to my prayers or at least he is ignoring them. On the other hand, perhaps he is hearing my prayers and is still upholding this Country that is struggling to stay upright under the massive mountain of debt and corruption at its top. I don’t know. What I do know is that I can still have a Thanksgiving feast this year. For that I am grateful and I am very aware that this year may be the last Thanksgiving feast I get to enjoy. American, as corrupt as her Government and people have become, is still the single best option for the regular joe on this planet. There are no other places I’d rather be living at this time.

      God bless all of you. I does my heart good to be here among thinking individuals who know that things are amiss and want to help change it even if the only change they can make is to change themselves for the better.

      • Jarek November 20, 2023 at 11:48 am #

        You’re just one man. We have a Judgement coming. Your job is to get out of the way and to warn others to do the same.

      • Mike Sherman November 20, 2023 at 6:02 pm #

        “What I do know is that I can still have a Thanksgiving feast this year. For that I am grateful and I am very aware that this year may be the last Thanksgiving feast I get to enjoy.

        Such doomsaying is an amusing local peccadillo around here.

        Usually, it’s about how the next election – if there IS one – will likely be the last. Now Thanksgiving is on the chopping block. What’s next – Christmas (again)?

        • Wizard of the Saddle November 22, 2023 at 11:19 am #

          If statements of impending doom disturb you, go elsewhere to find pollyannish folk happy to gaslight you and blow smoke up your ass to your dear little ole heart’s content.

          CFN does have a focus on all that is “clusterfucked” in this world and so a gloomy outlook will likely always be the norm here.

          If this upsets you, you are always free to depart. No one here will hogtie you and force you to listen to read content you dislike.

          • Mike Sherman November 22, 2023 at 4:18 pm #

            Oh, yes, Wizard…I’m well aware of the general vibe round here which boils down to “how dare you disagree with us? Fuck off!”

    • Q. Shtik November 20, 2023 at 1:24 pm #

      Have a Happy Thanksgiving and a happy birthday JHK. – RaymondR


      Ray, Jim’s B-day was a month ago, Oct 19.

      • Rain Waters November 20, 2023 at 1:32 pm #

        Definite Libra indeed.

      • RaymondR November 20, 2023 at 5:10 pm #

        Thanks for the correction

      • ZrCrypDiK November 22, 2023 at 1:05 am #

        OMFG U R still here! The pool table hustler. Long time!

        • Q. Shtik November 22, 2023 at 11:54 am #

          Welcome back ZrCrypDiK.

          • ZrCrypDiK November 24, 2023 at 5:08 am #

            I think of Tom Cruise every time I see your name. No, that’s not right! 1960, that’s it – I think of 1960 – Paul Newman, Fats?!?

  6. sanspeur November 20, 2023 at 10:16 am #

    “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you are like whitewashed tombs which indeed appear beautiful outwardly, but inside are full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness. 28Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but inside you are full of hypocrisy and lawlessness.”

    I think Jesus knew 2000 years ago who the enemy of humanity was. Is Gospel of Matthew anti semitic? No, he is identifying those Jews in leadership positions that would not recognize the creator, and live for only the fruits of the earth. They worship the spiritual ruler of earth, Satan. We must remove the dual citizen Zionist Jews from any positions of leadership in this country to have ANY chance of recovering. This is not an anti Jewish rant.
    Most practicing Jews follow Jesus’s first 2 commandments without considering themselves Christians: “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’
    38 This is the first and great commandment. 39And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’
    40 On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”

    However the Zionist Jews currently in positions of power we can plainly see in Israel,and the USA DO NOT follow these commandments and are therefore followers of the anti-Christ Satan.

    • JohnAZ November 20, 2023 at 10:46 am #

      IMHO, each human must choose between themselves or God in their pursuit of what is important. Those who choose self spend their lives challenging God for priority. Ego overwhelms super ego and they join the earthly devil.

      Jesus put out the two commandments as a quick summation of the thousands of Mosaic laws that existed. He summed it all up by saying that allowing God to be your mentor, “your boss” you joined the Kingdom and had eternal life, whatever that is. Getting along with your fellow man was important too. The Golden Rule makes you submit to the needs of others. Again, super ego triumphs over ego.

      The world today as JHK has described it here is the result of the losing contest between Super ego and ego. I remember the warnings in the 70s that the Me Generation, the Boomers of the time, would be a big detriment to humanity. IMHO, we are living now the downside of that statement.

      Ego is winning today. Humanity is inherently evil and without the coaching of God, will destroy himself trying to assuage his ego. We now have the means to destroy ourselves, without something to stop the progress, we will.

    • Uncle Abraham November 20, 2023 at 10:54 am #

      Of course any mention of Israel’s fully justified response to the declared war aims of genocidal Islamic mania, borne of Ishmael’s envy of Isaac, brings out the rabid dogs of corrupt presumed Christian ideology, another religious disposition to be destroyed in the fires of hell. You go, Israel. Do what you must and learn what it means to be right and condemned for it, just like your Messiah to Whom you did the same. God is judging all for His perfect resolution that will reconcile all to Himself.

      • Rain Waters November 20, 2023 at 2:21 pm #

        Uncle Abraham, Is he human, mask up, dogmatist, give me a break, fake humans. = 391

      • MichaelofMississauga November 20, 2023 at 6:16 pm #

        Amen. Bring it on Lord Jesus Christ that you may receive Glory, Honor and Praise in the sight of your people.

        • Tweedledum November 21, 2023 at 7:17 pm #

          Time to run for Congress, Michael. The place is full of lunatics with similar delusions, You’d fit right in.

    • Jarek November 20, 2023 at 11:50 am #

      God said Ishmael would be a mighty nation. And so it was. You can’t go against God, Abe.

  7. Cankerpuss November 20, 2023 at 10:26 am #

    Bit of a hopeless message this week by JHK but it reflects how most people are feeling right now. I went grocery shopping yesterday and bought a bag of mini cucumbers. When I opened the bag the cucumbers were wilted on the end and soft. In other words, they were rotting so I have personally seen and agree with JHK’s thoughts on the supply chain problems.

    Look people, it’s simple. We are living through times that were foretold 3000 years ago by ancient Old Testament prophets. The order of the world is anti God and anti religion and anti everything that is good and decent. We all can sense a great change is coming. The systems as we know them are failing and collapsing.

    We know it will be bad before the return of the Christ but the time is coming. It is at hand. A collapse in our current order must happen to pave the way for his coming. Every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is the Christ, the son of God, the God of this world. Knowledge of he and his gospel will permeate every nook and cranny of this Earth and finally, the world will live in peace under his righteous governance.

    Knuckle up. It’s going to get pretty gnarly.

    • JohnAZ November 20, 2023 at 10:58 am #

      The world will live in peace—

      With considerably less people inhabiting it.

      How will God make the change?

      How about an asteroid? How about a shift in the land surfaces associated with core changes and magnetic pole switches? How about just standing back and allowing Man to destroy himself?

      St. John wrote the Revelation, using language that is mysterious and symbolic. Jesus taught in parables, using symbols to demonstrate his meaning. Jesus predicted the end of Old Judea and it happened. Rome became the center of the new order, Christianity.

      The end is coming, caused by overpopulation IMHO and the evil that people will do to get the remaining resources will bring death to most of the world and not just humans. The sixth great extinction being predicted now may happen.

      • kendar667 November 20, 2023 at 2:32 pm #

        Probably the pole shift will do it, but that’s the larger backdrop. The more immediate problem is the rapidly weakening magnetic field which will allow any good-sized CME to wipe out the power grid, sending civilization back to the 1700’s. Given how bad the last known data was, it’s not terribly surprising that NASA no longer releases reports on either the pole location or magnetic field strength. Those reports stopped a couple of years ago and the internet is pretty well scrubbed of any recent information on the topic.

        Along these lines, the aurora borealis has been moving south, being seen in places not seen before like Florida and New Mexico. This is troubling to say the least. When the field is totally gone, people will see this phenomena just about everywhere and we’ll be sitting ducks to any CME that comes along. spaceweathernews dot com is my go-to source for this particular flavor of doom.

        • Tweedledum November 20, 2023 at 6:21 pm #

          “The sky is falling! The sky is falling!!!”

          Catastrophization has been taken to a whole new level of crazy with this pole-shift trope.

          “During a pole reversal, the magnetic field weakens, but it doesn’t completely disappear. The magnetosphere, together with Earth’s atmosphere, continue protecting Earth from cosmic rays and charged solar particles, though there may be a small amount of particulate radiation that makes it down to Earth’s surface. The magnetic field becomes jumbled, and multiple magnetic poles can emerge in unexpected places.

          No one knows exactly when the next pole reversal may occur, but scientists know they don’t happen overnight: they take place over hundreds to thousands of years.

          Of course, you all know, by sheer instinct, that this is clearly ‘fake science’, and that these fake ‘scientists’ are being paid by George Soros to keep us all in the dark, right? Everyone knows we can’t trust NASA, right?


          • Mike Sherman November 20, 2023 at 6:32 pm #

            Yeah, Tweedledum. I get a real buzz off these predictions, so firmly held by idiots, especially when it’s potentially in my lifetime…it’s fun to watch the ‘endtimes’ deadlines go swooshing over one’s head.

            It’ll be just about as funny on March 4th, 2024, when OG eats his hat.

          • kendar667 November 20, 2023 at 8:31 pm #

            Huh, I must have triggered the AI to bring out the sock puppet army. This topic tends to do that. Gotta keep the peeps calm I suppose. Carry on…

          • Tweedledum November 21, 2023 at 7:15 pm #


            “Sock puppet army”? Run by AI? Isn’t that service provided by Russian troll farms? Are you accusing me of being a Russian troll?

        • Wizard of the Saddle November 22, 2023 at 11:29 am #

          That is the scariest type of doom. Right up there with a direct hit on the Earth by a nearby Gamma Ray Burst.

          Cosmic stuff. Way too big for us to do a damn thing about.

          No point even worrying about those. If it doesn’t happen in your lifetime it’s all good. If it does, well it’s just tuck your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye time.

          But, like trying to alter “climate change” here on Earth, I’m sure there are groups of pointy-headed Poindexters toiling away in labs around the globe trying to figure out a way to outwit God and the Universe.

          • kendar667 November 23, 2023 at 2:22 am #

            Yep, pretty scary stuff. Not much one person can do about it but I’d rather know about it than not. Really, I just don’t like being lied to all the time and “climate change” is just a cover story for something much, much worse.

            I’m not a big “head in the sand” kind of guy and people blowing it off because it’s above their pay grade or consider it sky is falling stuff without actually looking at it are kind of annoying. What really needs to happen is some effort and science in a coordinated way to help save as much as possible. Working together, people can accomplish great things.

            But as of this moment, the pigrats in charge have decided on a different path – underground cities and hidey holes for them and starvation and death for all of the peons. All paid for by us, of course. This earth super cycle happens every 12k years and therefore has happened numerous times throughout the human experience and yet we are still here, which means we are all descendants of people that have survived the cycle. That means it can be done and will be done again. Why not face it as a group and work like hell to survive? First thing that needs to happen is some general awareness, which is tough with all of the suppression and the dumb trolling like with the twin imbeciles above.

    • Mike Sherman November 20, 2023 at 6:34 pm #

      “Look people, it’s simple. We are living through times that were foretold 3000 years ago by ancient Old Testament prophets.

      Huh? What the fuck did they know? Oh, right…they were merely passing on the information that Yahweh had imparted to them. Right…Yahweh and the ‘shrooms. What a way to live.

  8. docmartin November 20, 2023 at 10:44 am #

    Most men don’t know jack shit about selecting produce. The same clueless ones buy the front row of juice or milk without looking at the date. I am always amazed how markets get away with selling crap ( including prepared goods with ingredients they didn’t sell). I guess Scott Adams is correct, twenty five percent of any population are idiots.

    • OG November 20, 2023 at 10:55 am #

      25%? I’ll take “The Over” on that bet.

    • JohnAZ November 20, 2023 at 10:59 am #


      Start with the 50% who buy the Democratic credo.

      • JohnAZ November 20, 2023 at 11:03 am #

        The Democratic credo

        Grab what you can while you can, the big bad real working people are trying to screw you.

        All you Have-nots, it is okay to steal from the haves,

        And we will help you do it.

      • Mike Sherman November 20, 2023 at 6:37 pm #

        51%. Sorry, loser.

    • Suburban_elk November 20, 2023 at 11:45 am #

      As if women are any less clueless in that regard.

      In any case if you buy from the back, plz at least have the courtesy not to leaves the shelves in shambles.

      Stores will eventually be going to a model where the customers don’t get to select their own items, especially things like milk and meats, they way things are going.

  9. Mister Roboto November 20, 2023 at 10:48 am #

    I can’t help but think of a tempest-in-a-teapot controversy that has been a dominant conversation on YouTube this past month. A couple of YouTubers whose schtick lately has been “paranormal investigating” (IOW, pretending that creaky, settling old houses are haunted for views) recently featured on their channel a “paranormal couple” (that’s how this young man and woman refer to themselves) who supposedly communicate with spirits by holding hands and assigning meaning to the knocking sounds that ensue.

    The problem with that is, is that what they were doing was one of them was popping their toe-joints to create the knocking sounds, and this is obvious because this particular fraud was pioneered in the Nineteenth Century in the USA by a trio known as the Fox Sisters. The youngest of these sisters eventually came clean and demonstrated before a large auditorium full of people who she would generate the knocking sounds that were supposed to be from spirits of the departed, by popping her big-toe joint.

    Many more rational-minded YouTubers pointed out all the things that made what this couple was doing as an obvious fraud, and what was remarkably weird about this was the way the foolish Gen-Zers who are fans of the YouTubers who featured this fraudulent seancing on their channel, just lost their shit on those who debunked this moldy old con-job. They were a lot like toddlers at the grocery store having a tantrum over being told they can’t have a box of Nilla Wafers, only much worse. I’m mentioning all this here because I think it really draws a big, red circle today on how very deeply desperate so many young people today are for something, anything to believe in, even if it’s just a century-and-a-half-year-old obvious con-job!

    • Mister Roboto November 20, 2023 at 10:51 am #

      “how she would generate the knocking sounds”, not “who she would generate the knocking sounds”.

    • JohnAZ November 20, 2023 at 11:10 am #

      Remember the sects of the 70s, some to the death.

      PT Barnum was correct, there is a dumbass sucker born every minute.

      Gen Z is looking for a belief system from Gen X.and the Millennials, even the Boomers.

      Sadly, it is not there. So they are suckers for every snake oil salesman they run across.

      Like Biden and the Deep State.

      Couldn’t resist the dig.

      • Mike Sherman November 20, 2023 at 6:39 pm #

        “PT Barnum was correct, there is a dumbass sucker born every minute.

        They now identify themselves with expensive ‘made in China’ red caps sporting ’45 – 47′ and ‘Make Attorneys Get Attorneys’ embroidery.

    • Jarek November 20, 2023 at 11:57 am #

      People who believe in nothing will believe in anything.


      • Tweedledum November 20, 2023 at 6:41 pm #

        Nice. However, given the evidence in the USA since 2016 and the rise of MAGAts, I’d flip that to

        “People who believe in Trump will believe ANYTHING that is utter bullshit.”

  10. OG November 20, 2023 at 11:05 am #

    If Israel wanted to do a genocide of Gazans, they’d have razed it decades ago.

    “Your Honour, clearly I did not commit the crime that I am charged with for if the culprit were, in fact, me, I would have perpetrated it years ago!”

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    • JohnAZ November 20, 2023 at 11:18 am #

      Well, OG.

      Number one, it is not a genocide of Gaza. It is elimination of the Hamas zealots and their ability to make war.

      Number two, if Israel had wanted, they could’ve overrun Syria, Sinai, Lebanon and the remainder of the West Bank decades ago.

      Last thread, someone pointed out that the Arabs in Israel, 20% , are better off than in Arab countries. I will bet they are not fighting on the Hamas side.

      The biggest thing is like all the other wars there, in the words of every high school principal, who started it? You can make up any excuse you want about Israel creating all these wars. But the fact remains, they have never started the wars. Never.

      But they are damn good at finishing them.

      • Suburban_elk November 20, 2023 at 11:50 am #

        Do you support your own ethnic group, presuming you have one, with the same zeal you show for Israelis?

        And akshuallly, re “who started it” — any high school principal worth a damn (which is to say not most of them) knows that that’s not the way to resolve the dispute, or approach it. It’s never about who started it.

        Kids and countries, it doesn’t matter. Both sides will have a reason, that is at least halfway plausible, from their point of view.

        • Jarek November 20, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

          The “both are equally wrong” is the special province of female teachers. The boy who defends himself against the bully is thus slandered along with the Truth.

          Fighting is bad! Yet War is the King of all as Heraclitus said. Women accept the fruits of the conquest but not those who planted and harvested them.

          • elysianfield November 20, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

            Yeah…what Jarek said….

          • Suburban_elk November 20, 2023 at 3:18 pm #

            That’s a good point “in principle” Jarek but it doesn’t work in re to Israel and Palestine. Both sides make their claim.

            It doesn’t work on the street, or in bar fights either, as any cops or bouncers will affirm: the question of “who started it” is irrelevant to what needs to be done, to resolve things, and again, both sides will have a halfway convincing version of events.

            I guess it works in a society where there’s some agreed upon structure, and behaviors and codes and laws etc. It requires a sort of agreed upon authority figure who is impartial. Such a society sounds nice, anyone know of one?

            In the rulebook of international law, Israel is a special case for some reason. They have more violations than anyone, is what I have heard. And yet they get away with it.

            Which is the reason why a lot of people, including the Colonel Douglas MacGregor cited recently by JHK, think the world stage would be a more stable place, if Israel is knocked off its perch of special place.

      • Jarek November 20, 2023 at 12:03 pm #

        Many love the Israelis because they are as we once were. This apart from the Christo-Zio nutcases.

        Great. So now the question becomes: Are we going to become like them and our old selves, or just be fan boys? The question is especially poignant once you realize that the Israelis are not pro-American in even the remotest sense.

        • JohnAZ November 20, 2023 at 12:21 pm #


          The UN had to face this in 1947.

          The question remains, what does the world do with the Jews? Millions of people?

          Do we allow them a place to live?

          Or do we exterminate them?

          Wow. How about all the BS about Gaza genocide? What about Jewish genocide? What is Iran’s goal? Exactly what they have stated,

          Over and over. Jewish genocide!

          So I guess it is just what side you are on.

          I look at who the anti-Jews are in this country and realize, here we go again.

          I am backing the winner.

          BTW, anti-Semite is an erroneous word.

          Semites are Jews and Arabs, so an anti-Semite would hate both.

          These are anti-Zionist, anti-Israel or anti-Jew.

          Take your choice.

          • Jarek November 20, 2023 at 12:44 pm #

            No, you’ve got it wrong. If someone gives you a nonsensical either/or choice, don’t answer. Or create another choice by doing something else. When Alexander the Great was challenged to untie the Gordian knot, he drew his sword and cut the rope.

            What’s the third way here? Taking our own side for a change. Once you do that, you’ll be able to see clearly on this topic. Until you do, you won’t.

          • Socrates-Detroit November 20, 2023 at 9:44 pm #

            Yes! Never before in history have we had the oppressors characterize themselves as victims!

        • RD3 November 20, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

          The Jews (Israel) have destroyed every white ethnostate and would actively seek to destroy another one, should it ever pop up again.

  11. Hockeyguy November 20, 2023 at 11:08 am #

    While I love JHK’s writing style, and I agree with about 95% of it, every column is basically the same template: “The out-of-control blob is mind-fucking and gaslighting us, and everything is teetering on the edge of some awful reckoning.” The only problem is that the reckoning never comes, because 80% of Americans are far too unhealthy, propagandized, and lazy to stand up and do anything about any of it, and the system is designed and carefully controlled to keep bleeding us into continual submission without triggering much resistance. We are nothing but free-range tax donkeys kept on the reservation known as “America” and pacified with social media, iGadgets, psychotropic drugs, sportsball, and the potemkin spectacle of “right vs left” politics. Since the system only cares that you obey, comply, and believe their lies, at this point the best possible course of action is to simply enjoy the decline and be amused by the ridiculous spectacle of it all.

    • Suburban_elk November 20, 2023 at 11:56 am #

      Agreed. It’s been pointed out before, that JHK has a predilection for predicting that there will be some progress or redress to setting things right, in this here our country. But it gets less and less likely with each passing week. It would seem to have to take something very dramatic, like a colonels’ coup, if those things still even exist anymore.

      I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords, but pity for the dogs, and that’s no joke. The fact that the supposedly advanced Asians, torture and eat animals up to and including dogs, like it’s nothing, speaks of their own limitations. Empathy for fellow sentient creatures, for those races, is in short supply; or at the least it can be said to not be an emergent characteristic, of their group(s).

      nb4 buffalo skull mountains, courtesy of White man

      • Tweedledum November 20, 2023 at 6:47 pm #

        “I for one welcome our new Chinese overlords, “…WTF? Did I miss the invasion, the war, the surrender, and the treaty-signing? Damn…

        • Hockeyguy November 21, 2023 at 2:35 pm #

          China has spent the last 3 decades purchasing our entire country and all of its remaining assets. Meanwhile, our military is “woke” and weakened, our financial system is broken and rigged to benefit the 1%, our manufacturing base was moved to Asia, our government squabbles over meaningless non-existent policy differences between the uniparty, and our population is brainwashed, lazy, overweight, drugged, and is confused about which bathroom to use. At this point, China is poised to roll through America and take over without needing to fire a shot.

          • Wizard of the Saddle November 22, 2023 at 11:59 am #

            That’s a pretty good assessment in my view. I’ve been working on myself for some time now to personally secede from the PTB program to weaken individual Americans. I eat a clean carnivore diet. I exercise. I do not smoke, booze, take dope, vape, ingest caffeine. I also do not use over-the-counter or pharmaceutical drugs unless in the most dire distress. I refused the COVID jabs and stopped taking annual flu vaccines. I quit watching MSM mindfuckery propaganda. I vigorously exercise my Second Amendment and First Amendment rights. I am debt-free. I don’t participate in “the program” for our destruction.

            I look around my small town daily, though, and am distressed to see 98% of the people sick, morbidly obese, crippled up, destroyed by various addictions, ignorant of current events, consumed by normalcy bias, apathetic, and obsessed with the trivialities of life……all while the culture, the economy, our system of government, and our nation burns down around them.

            Most people are, sadly, blindingly low-IQ sheep. Easily herded. Easily slaughtered.

            I’ve pretty much given up on the silly notion that organized groups of intelligent, civilized, principled, and strong men can right the ship and fix everything.

            Those men exist. Some chat on this forum. But we are too few in number and have been dislodged from all positions of real power and influence.

            It is essentially over – Western Civilized Society that is. The barbarians are not merely at the gates. They are within the compound and are ransacking our wealth; burning down our cities; raping our women and children; insulting our heritage and traditions; and MOCKING US as they do all of this with utter impugnity.

            Why I continue to even vote in elections is a bit of a mystery to me. Force of habit? Sure. Overconsumption of “hopium?” Absolutely. And I’ll likely keep voting until they finally attempt to come for me in the dead of the night to drag me off to some Woke gulag. Why? I hope to be proven an unnecessarily gloomy Gus who misjudged a situation that was DIRE, but not truly in salvageable. JHK seems to feel that this is the true reality and that our current American Cultural Revolution will eventually collapse. I pray he is correct.

            But for me, the only practical course of action at present is to be a prepper and look out for Number 1 if the big collapse of civil authority and the economy comes. I cannot affect the path of the world. I can only affect the personal path I take for myself. I am no “World Improver.” I don’t have enough years left or the patience to waste on trying to fix the endless failings of this old world. It is folly to attempt it, for the most part.

            Smart people will go LOCAL. Focus on preserving yourself, then family, then friends, then your local community, your, state, and finally your country – in that order. You’ll be very fortunate if you only manage to save your own self and your loved ones from the collapse into a new dark ages that appears increasingly likely.

          • Mike Sherman November 22, 2023 at 4:25 pm #

            These are clearly no more than sweeping, simplistic generalizations, though strongly held by you and all the other catastrophists infesting this place.

            “purchasing our entire country” – oh, so how much did the CCP give you for your ranchstyle?

            “our military is ‘woke’ “- as usual, ‘woke’ remains undefined, but (in my opinion) refers to the common human decency of letting people be themselves, whether YOU like it or not. Remember Jesus & the adultress at the well?

            “our financial system is broken and rigged to benefit the 1%” – it was ever thus but what do you propose to do about it? And, who are you blaming – China?

            “our manufacturing base was moved to Asia” – who did that, huh? Rich American capitalists seeking greater profit by exploiting the poor. Again, did China do that? And what’s been happening since 2021? Manufacturing jobs in the US have risen by 800,000


            “our government squabbles over meaningless…policy” – this is far from unique to the US Congress, Hockeyguy. So, what’s the China connection here, again?

            “our population is brainwashed, lazy, overweight, drugged and confused about which bathroom to use.” – what percentage of people suffer from at least one of these afflictions and what percentage suffer from several or even all? This generalization is possibly you trying to say “gee, I’m so happy I’m NOT any of those” or “gee, I’m ALL of those things”. Personally, I’m not brainwashed, lazy, drugged or confused about which bathroom to use (I always use one with a lock on it, in which case, what the fuck does it matter?)

            And then, you finish it off by saying that this is evidence sufficient for you to declare, unilaterally, that China is poised to ‘roll through America and take over without needing to fire a shot’. What delusional tripe. Pray, tell me…will the CCP do this BEFORE it retakes Taiwan. or afterward? Can you not see what utter incoherent drivel you’re espousing here?

        • SpeedyBB November 23, 2023 at 3:17 pm #

          You must have blinked, Tweedledum. Missed the whole event. Went off very smooth, nevertheless, as the local natives were distracted, intoxicated, bemused, catatonic or otherwise engaged in irrelevant frivolity. Your country was flipped, right before halftime at Superbowl.

      • Watcher November 21, 2023 at 8:53 am #

        The eve of anticipation for some action will continue to hover until:

        (A paraphrase from V for Vendetta)

        With so much chaos, someone will do something stupid. And when they do, things will turn nasty. And then the powers will be forced to do the only thing they know how to do.

        In other words, some goon or goons with a badge will force a matter and gun down someone in public. Someone in the crowd will react and stand up. The goons will turn on them too. Then absolute mayhem will ensue as the crowd tears them apart.

        It will all be on video from multiple angles. Everyone will see. The V will spread. There will be no stopping it. The situation is only waiting for someone to do something stupid at the wrong moment.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 12:05 am #

          Is this the Watcher from POB?

        • Wizard of the Saddle November 22, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

          Yes, Revolutions like that can and will likely erupt here and there…..but we are not assured of being saved by them, much less having what we’ve lost thus far RESTORED by them.

          More likely we’ll see the equivalent of the French Revolution. We go from “eating cake” to lopping off heads. Not much of an improvement.

          It’s a cold, cruel world. At its core – always a struggle to survive and out-compete others attempting to do the same. It’s a zero-sum game. All fantasies about “equality” and “equity” are pie-in-the-sky bullshit.

          In the end, the Nazis were right about one thing: People are just bi-pedal wolves. The strongest survive and kill or subjugate their competitors.

          Strong people will thrive. The weak will perish.

          This it has always been. Thus it will always be.

          It is time to put away soft, feminine, childish notions about human nature and just accept this truth and start interacting with the rest of the world with a based mindset.

    • Jimpa November 20, 2023 at 4:59 pm #

      Um…..sports ball. The Eagles play the Chiefs tonight. Should be a good one.

  12. DavidLFleck November 20, 2023 at 11:09 am #

    “And you might agree that it all started breaking badly in the new century….” It all started breaking badly when the Prophet Generation (aka Boomers) ascended to the zenith of their power. Their job in the cycles of history is to foment ideological battles that wreck civilization. Our favorite destroyer, James Howard Kunstler, is doing an admirable job fulfilling his generation’s mission…and I hope he keeps doing it because I enjoy reading his articles each week.

  13. dorn November 20, 2023 at 11:16 am #

    WEF wins in Argentina. Zionist, to boot. “Read ’em and weep.”

    • JohnAZ November 20, 2023 at 11:26 am #

      The new guy is to the right, right?

      Who will he join to protect Argentina, the WEF who he sees trying to destroy conservatism in the USA and around the world, or the BRICS++ movement that are representing nationalism around the world.

      It is interesting that BRICS++ might be representative of the original concept of the League of Nations or the UN, to allow countries to work with each other.

      It is the WEF that is trying to globalize the world under their auspices.

      WEF wins in Argentina, I think not.

      • JohnAZ November 20, 2023 at 11:34 am #


        A thought crossed my mind as I wrote this.

        If Trump gets elected, who would he back up on the international level?

        WEF with its global drive and liberal ideals, that backs the Mob in the US?

        Or BRICS++ that holds countries that he was dealing with successfully during his first administration.

        He tried to make WEF countries pay their agreed to share of NATO, and downplayed Europe as they downplayed him

        While making “friends” with our adversaries, now joining BRICS++.

        Deeper than that, does MAGA dogma come closer to WEF or BRICS++? Is the USA better off encouraging the global socialism of the WEF or the nationalism of BRICS++.

        Just askin’?

        • GreenAlba November 20, 2023 at 1:50 pm #

          The WEF is just the PR wing of the UN and its offspring, like the WHO.

          It is the UN which is carrying out the genocide and control agenda, on behalf of their puppetmasters. The UN is taking control of everything – animals, plants, patents and all other intellectual property, and every other kind of property and assets.

          Cecil Rhodes’ Network created the League of Nations, but abandoned it when the US wouldn’t join. Then the same cabal created the UN. Their stated purpose is to gain ‘dominion over every habitable portion of the earth’. Including you and yours.

          • Socrates-Detroit November 20, 2023 at 4:42 pm #

            Spot-on Green Alba!

            Cecil Rhodes. The Rothschilds. The British Empire and post-1890s USA.

            The US government and military are the “enforcement” arm of the globalists.

          • Jarek November 20, 2023 at 4:47 pm #

            The same cabal? Unlikely since they wouldn’t join the League of Nations. Maybe the former was too British (White) or something.

          • GreenAlba November 20, 2023 at 4:54 pm #

            Not sure what you mean, Jarek. America wouldn’t join the League of Nations, so the cabal set out to hobble it (the League). By ‘cabal’ I meant Cecil Rhodes’ ‘Network’.

            I thought you’d have read Joe’s book by now. 🙂


            That’s the chapter that includes the League of Nations and the creation of the UN.

          • GreenAlba November 20, 2023 at 5:15 pm #

            “The US government and military are the “enforcement” arm of the globalists.”

            Exactly, S-D. That’s why a League of Nations without the US was of no interest to them.

          • malthuss November 20, 2023 at 8:41 pm #

            old book–THE OWNERSHIP OF ALL LIFE.

          • Jarek November 20, 2023 at 9:20 pm #

            Why didn’t they like the League of Nations? Too British? Too White? They had already taken America, remember.

            England had already fallen into the Darkness. Rhodes didn’t have a leg to stand on if he wasn’t with the International Bankers.

            Study the Pyramid on the back of the dollar bill. Last time we talked, you still didn’t understand how the few could and do rule the many. Money is a lever that can move the world. If you can make money out of nothing – in blasphemous imitation of God – well then very little is not possible for you.

          • GreenAlba November 20, 2023 at 9:33 pm #

            “Why didn’t they like the League of Nations? Too British? Too White? They had already taken America, remember.”

            I don’t understand why you are so determinedly barking up the wrong tree. (Rhodes was already dead in 1902, by the way, so he was out of the picture.)

            Rhodes successors (he left several Wills for the purpose of continuing the Network’s project) created the League of Nations – why would they ‘not like it’? They stopped supporting it when America wouldn’t join.

            Why don’t you read the chapter I linked to? It has masses of information, from Quigley’s books and elsewhere, on why they abandonned the League and supported the fascists. I’d have thought you’d find it interesting.

          • GreenAlba November 20, 2023 at 9:42 pm #

            “Study the Pyramid on the back of the dollar bill. Last time we talked, you still didn’t understand how the few could and do rule the many.”

            Stop talking abject nonsense – what an utterly stupid thing to say. You really do live in your own head. I’m perfectly familiar with the pyramid and perfectly familiar with how the few can control the many. I merely disagreed with your assessment that ‘the few’ are all Jewish. (I am also perfectly aware of the power of the Rothschilds.)

            It was the Rockefellers who created the Club of Rome, just for starters, and they were originally Baptists.

          • GreenAlba November 20, 2023 at 9:47 pm #

            Abandoned, not abandonned (slip of the finger – been reading a lot of French lately!).

          • Jarek November 21, 2023 at 12:50 pm #

            I don’t say all – just most. They have a voting majority in the Capstone (to the extent it is Democratic), thus they control the larger Pyramid.

            One remembers your abject fear of “being” an anti-Semite for reading a book. Your mind isn’t very free now, is it?

            Who knows more about the upper echelons, you or Elon? He has criticized those who cannot be criticized (unlike you). Now watch what they do to him.

          • GreenAlba November 21, 2023 at 2:04 pm #

            ” They have a voting majority in the Capstone.”

            Do you have evidence of that or is it just received wisdom? (I don’t claim to know if they do or they don’t). If you have evidence, let’s see it. What are the numbers? And the names?

            What is the book you are referring to? I can’t think of any book I’ve read that could be characterised as anti-semitic.

            I wouldn’t trust Elon as far as I could chuck him, but there’s nothing wrong with criticising anyone, especially while they’re engaged in killing thousands of children. Or if they’re demolishing towers with thousands of people in them.

            Personally, I distinguish between a people, their leaders, their bankers and their intelligence services, so being anti-any particular people doesn’t come into it.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 1:31 am #

            “Five corporations
            Earn more than forty-six nations
            You’ve got blood on your hands
            You’ve got blood on your hands
            Corruption at the highest levels
            Man-made hell and a man-made devil
            You’ve got blood on your hands
            You’ve got blood on your hands
            Jacques de Molay turns in his grave
            As Cecil Rhodes rides out again

            You’ve got blood on your hands
            You’ve got blood on your hands…”

            ~ Blood On Your Hands, by Killing Joke

          • Jarek November 22, 2023 at 3:28 am #

            The 13th Tribe. You have no memory at all when it doesn’t favor you in debate. You are an argument for Calvin’s view of humanity.

            You were afraid it was anti-Semitic but at the same time didn’t understand why the Jews didn’t like it. If men are absolutely depraved a la Calvin, women are somehow worse.

          • GreenAlba November 22, 2023 at 6:05 am #

            You are rendered stupid by your prejudices.

            Why is The 13th Tribe antisemitic? Why would I worry about buying it? Like I said, you live in your head, and your head is not a decent place.

            Arthur Koestler even supports Israel in the book. Perhaps you should (re-)read it.

            Toads are not the most attractive creatures.

          • GreenAlba November 22, 2023 at 6:11 am #

            Find the quote where I said I ‘didn’t understand’ why Jews wouldn’t like it. Even Koestler says in the book that it will be used to attack Jews, despite that not being his aim at all. He attacks neither Jews nor Israel. He just presents some historical research in support of a theory.

            I even literally said that believing they are descended from an Abrahamic line, if they’re not, is not something anyone could blame European Jews for after the creation of the modern state of Israel.

            You are sick and dishonest. Calvin? Don’t make me laugh.

            Your desperation to insult, as opposed to discuss the truth, is on a level far above anyone else on here.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 7:40 am #

            I seem to recall that, as kids, when we picked up toads, they’d pee in our hands.

          • GreenAlba November 22, 2023 at 8:58 am #

            Probably don’t like being picked up by warm hands.

            A baby will pee if you put it (naked) on something cold.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 23, 2023 at 10:22 pm #

            Interesting point.

        • Mike Sherman November 20, 2023 at 6:52 pm #

          “If” Trump gets elected? In your saddest fever-dreams, JohnAZ.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle November 23, 2023 at 10:22 pm #

          Interesting point.

      • Jimpa November 20, 2023 at 5:02 pm #

        From what I’ve heard, he’s going to make the dollar the currency of Argentinia.

    • literofoyl November 20, 2023 at 11:26 am #

      Did WEF win in Argentina, or did WEF lose with the winner Javier Milei aiming to end the social justice, anti-freedom socialism?

      • JohnAZ November 20, 2023 at 11:34 am #


      • Jarek November 20, 2023 at 12:08 pm #

        I don’t know either. Libertarianism is incoherent nonsense after all.

        Privatize as much as possible? Think the WEF can not work with that? Jesus weeps.

        Corporations are larger than many nations now and are anti-nation as per the WEF. He may well be an idiot and not understand this. Andrew Jackson thought he could save America by letting every male idiot vote. The mob had a huge party and trashed the White House.

        The WEF loves Democracy…..

        • RD3 November 20, 2023 at 1:34 pm #

          Autism is probably about 95% among libertarians. I had to listen to one argue that planned obsolescence and poorly made products are good for the consumer because the consumer now gets the newest technology sooner, when in the past they would just be content to keep their old washing machine for 25 years.

          I can’t believe how some fairly intelligent people, like Murray Rothbard, or Tom Woods, actually buy into so much of that nonsense. Most of the intelligent ones, including Rothbard eventually part with a lot of the drivel and just move to the right… Curiously, Woods was on the paleo right and became a libertarian. I think he got nervous when people started throwing around the “white nationalist” smear.

          • GreenAlba November 20, 2023 at 2:09 pm #

            In future, you won’t own your washing machine. You’ll rent it. And it will doubtless have a remote kill switch, like an EV, so that if you don’t behave, you won’t get clean clothes.

          • Groundhog November 20, 2023 at 3:38 pm #

            In the future I’ll be washing clothing by hand in the bathtub. I’ve done it before. **ck washing machines. I’ll just do without one, it’s very easy! These machines, according to popular belief, are absolutely necessary in order to have a decent life. Nonsense!

          • GreenAlba November 20, 2023 at 4:59 pm #

            I’ve done it before too, Groundhog – even the sheets were washed in the bath. I didn’t even have a washing machine when my first child was born. And I didn’t use disposable nappies so terry nappies had to be sterilised in a bucket, then washed by hand. Great fun it was (not).

          • GreenAlba November 20, 2023 at 5:19 pm #

            Sadly, I don’t have a bathtub any more. We had our tiny bathroom converted to a shower room, so it’s the kitchen sink or nothing!

          • Paula D November 20, 2023 at 6:41 pm #

            I’ve washed diapers in the bathtub also. I prefer the laundromat.

            Not owning a washing machine is not really a new development.

          • GreenAlba November 20, 2023 at 7:28 pm #

            Well, at least where I live now, there is a laundromat! Or a laundrette, as they’re known over here.

            So, I’ll be OK until you need social credit points rather than money to use the laundromat … not that the washing machine has given up the ghost yet anyway. It’ll probably see me out, if Deagel is anything to go by. 🙂

          • Paula D November 20, 2023 at 7:47 pm #

            I used to live about a block away from a laundromat, so I would put my clothes in the washer and then walk home until it was time to move them to the dryer..
            When I was walking home one time, (it was night), there was a big explosion and the sky lit up.
            Damn! I thought it was a nuclear bomb, and we were goners, but it turned out to be a transformer.
            The electricity was out for hours, so my clothes were in the washer for hours.
            At least I didn’t have to sit there and wait.

      • Wizard of the Saddle November 22, 2023 at 12:18 pm #

        Milei appears to be a libertarian populist “disrupter” whose principal talent will be found in his attempts to dismantle the Peronist socialist bureaucracy.

        He will likely be less successful in trying to break the bad habits of the Argentinian populace who have only turned to him momentarily out of utter desperation.

        Sheeple return to socialism the moment things calm down and the economy improves a little bit.

        So let us hope Milei works swiftly and that he does maximum damage to the collectivist state in his country. It will set a good example for the rest of the world.

  14. weak stream November 20, 2023 at 11:40 am #

    But it didn’t start in 2001, it started in 1983. If you don’t think so you weren’t listening carefully enough.

    • JohnAZ November 20, 2023 at 11:50 am #

      A president tried to limit the increasing dominance of the MIC and information services at one time.

      They shot him.

      1963, November 22.

      How about Hinkley and Reagan, is that your 1983?

  15. Paula D November 20, 2023 at 11:47 am #

    The destruction of the American “way of life” started in the 80s, as I recall.
    As soon as Reagan came in, he launched an attack on the air traffic controllers union. Breaking the unions was their way of destroying the paychecks of most of America’s working class.
    Doubling the FICA contributions to steal to make up for the tax cuts of the rich came next.
    Then they told Americans to tithe part of their paychecks to private hedge funds, like Vanguard and Blackrock, in the 401K scam. Sure, give money to those scammers for working 50 years, and you’ll live high on the hog when you retire, thanks to them buying up real estate and jacking up the rents for current workers. See? You too can prosper, by lapping up the drops of blood and muscle the Vampire Squid dribbles, as it sucks out tithes of the paychecks of the young.
    Real estate speculation, helped along by the deregulation of the S&Ls, led to the rise of homeless Americans, suddenly and shockingly lying on the sidewalks and in the doorways of US cities.
    Yes, turning the rich loose to spend their influx of loot on buying up houses and apartment buildings, while out-sourcing productive factories, somehow led to massive laziness among ordinary Americans, who up until then had dutifully showed up at the factory doors every day.
    Go figure.
    Good thing that Oliver North was running a guns-for-drugs operation out of the basement of the White House.
    That gave the newly unemployed a way to make money, and dull their pain, to boot.

    What 9-11 did was give our ruling overlords an excuse to destroy the Bill of Rights, set up an entirely new repressive apparatus, and march off to destroy oil producing countries, with the goal of liberating all that oil from the people who live on top of it.

    Remember that Operation Iraqi Freedom was originally called Operation Iraqi Liberation- OIL.
    Mistake? PR blunder? Or the Blob stating openly what they were after, with their belief that if the public doesn’t object, that means they are giving their permission.
    Supposedly, the satanists have that rule that they follow, much like vampires can’t enter your house unless you invite them in.
    Sounds legit to me.

    Now they are using the election of Donald Trump as a way to set up a new repressive apparatus, spawned from the 2002 Homeland Security bureaucracy, which has metastasized into into a sprawling Blob of repression and censorship in the last 21 years.

    It only took 16 years for the CIA, formed in 1947, to be powerful enough to blow the head off of the US President, in broad daylight in the middle of Town Square.
    That was a coup, and a message to the rest of the world, that the US was now under control of a secret cabal of criminals who had the power and might of the United States government and military at their command.

    So the destruction of the American way of life really started on November 22,1963. It just took a while for it to trickle down to the destruction of the population.
    But we’re here now.

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    • JohnAZ November 20, 2023 at 11:51 am #

      Yup! On the date.

    • JohnAZ November 20, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

      All of your description is the PTB trying to keep a system of debt from defaulting by inventing fiscal games to play.

      The real issue is that we cannot afford to police the world any more, and pay interest on the debt , and create a dependent economic class with a welfare state and have a tax base that is weakening because we have sent all the manufacturing overseas.

      Dems want to tax the rich, oops not enough there and driving them overseas does not help much.

      The GOP wants to limit spending and have no idea what to do when the welfare state, the safety net. Collapses.

      Get it, neither side works!!!!! Blame the government, absolutely, they invented the dollars for votes game!!!

    • Jarek November 20, 2023 at 12:11 pm #

      No, it started with the Federal Reserve act where we were sold out to the International Bankers – yes the same ones who financed Communism. Thanks for playing Paula, but you lose, Charlie Brown.

      • Soul Forensics November 20, 2023 at 2:55 pm #

        Bingo! The Fed was created in1913.

        1913 was also the year that a coordinated set of manifestos in the written and visual arts first appeared. Not a coincidence. The idea was to marry financial takeover with intellectual and cultural takeover. The latter is important for various reasons, but for the link to financial ruin, it prepares the obtuse citizens to throw up their hands and question their own White heritage.

      • Jarek November 20, 2023 at 4:50 pm #

        Paula also recently said that the United States divided the Yugoslavian tribes – as if Yugoslavia was a real thing that must exist. Wrong both historically and culturally.

      • Paula D November 20, 2023 at 6:17 pm #

        Are you seriously claiming that Americans had it good before 1913?

        Low wages, dangerous working conditions, contaminated food, short life expectancy, child labor, northern tenement slums, southern sharecropping…..please dudes!

        And then that heaven on Earth was destroyed by the Federal Reserve, according to you.

        Sure, dudes.

        Everyone else is pointing to the 50s as the best time to be an American, but you guys prefer the 1890s?


        • Soul Forensics November 20, 2023 at 7:24 pm #


          Of course it wasn’t milk n’ honey in the 1890s. But we’re talking about financial and cultural transvaluation.

          Improvements to health in the form of clean water and the introduction of antibiotics, i.e., happened through human ingenuity, independent of institutional interference.

          The financial destruction of money (that is, energy) wasn’t apparent or obvious at first because of the 70 year upward arc of energy production/use. But a concurrent downward arc in financial manipulation and regulation was happening all the same, culminating in so many of the contemporary problems that our host outlines.

          Your emphasis on decisions by the executive branch are the most relevant when tied to the power of the Fed — the elimination of Glass-Steagall, as only one example.

          • Socrates-Detroit November 20, 2023 at 10:28 pm #

            Interesting perspectives.

            Both correct.

            One espouses individual liberty and freedom.

            One espouses decent wages and working conditions.

            Personally, I agree with @soul forensics.

            1913 was disaster for America. Yes @Paula, the creation of the Federal Reserve Bank and the Income Tax basically locked in the position of privilege of big capital, with the illusion that these measures took away Wall Street’s power.

            Who owns the Fed?

            The Fed can, and has, inflated the money supply to accomodate politicians and wars. Between fiat currency, and the ability to tax everyone’s income and vastly increase the revenue of government, war is easier.

            The Federal government did fine with tariffs and fees before 1913.

            There is NOTHING progressive about easy money and war. The middle and working classes pay for it. And the welfare state, the Great Society, basically pulled the rug under many African Americans, just as the shackles of discrimination were coming off.

            Many progressives associate Reagan and the 1980s with the “destruction of the American way of life”. And for good reason, I think there is a lot to that.

            But, just my opinions, the “American way of life” was temporary phase made possible by many enablers. It would not have lasted, any more than summer can’t last all year.

            The seeds of America’s demise were sowed with slavery…time delayed seeds to be sure.

            But the “American way of life” (which I think was transitory) was PREMATURELY destroyed by the Vietnam War and the Great Society. The cost of this undermined America, AmeriCANS, and American industry financially and economically, though it made was very profitable for a few people.

            The Great Society undermined the family unit in general, and black families in particular. Throw in social permissiveness enabled by the pill, and the “throw out the baby with the bathwater” attitude of Americans who questioned a lot of what they had thought of their country and government, as they watched civil rights marchers abused, and Vietnam drag on and on, and there you have the beginning of the crack-up.

            The Reagan era largely devoured many productive US assets in the 1980s, kind of like living off the past, and formally ushered in the FIRE (Finance, Insurance, Real Estate) economy, which had started in the 1960s.

            And since Reagan, we’ve been fooling ourselves. Still, it was a good run. For many Americans, baby boomers and even GenX, myself included, and for older Americans who lived thru WW2 or Korea and lived within their means and had savings, the early 1980s until the mid/late 2010s were a good time–Indian Summer in CFN.

            The Real Summer was 1946-1973–for most Americans, not all. For those who went to Korea or Vietnam and didn’t come back, or came back with crippled limbs or brains, it was not so good. But for conventional American families, with a father and a mother, that was peak America. That was the “American Way of Life”, characterized by optimism that if you worked hard, you’d do well, or at least be OK.

            Sorry for the long post–the short of it is, 1913 was a bad year for freedom–and that’s usually bad for ordinary people.

            Yes, before 1913 there were bad working conditions. There were also big differences in rural America over who controlled the market for farmers’ produce, and who controlled the transportation (railroads). And a much higher percent of Americans were farmers then, than today.

  16. David Webb November 20, 2023 at 11:51 am #

    Happy Thanksgiving Jim, I hope you don’t have to settle for the late 20th century American tradition of the tin-can shaped blob of factory processed cranberry sauce.

    • Soul Forensics November 20, 2023 at 2:58 pm #

      Cranberries are awful. Just shove more moist dressing up that bird’s ass as a substitute, and I’m happy.

      • gustafson.robert.22 November 20, 2023 at 4:50 pm #

        Doesn’t like cranberries… hmm…

        • Jimpa November 20, 2023 at 5:10 pm #

          Yes, that’s unamerican.

          • Soul Forensics November 20, 2023 at 7:10 pm #

            It’s also verboten in my neck of the woods (Canada). That’s OK, there’s always food police to deal with, relatives or no.

  17. JohnAZ November 20, 2023 at 11:53 am #

    Everyone remember who we are giving thanks to.

    Thank you, God, for the remaining plenty most of us have in this country!!

    Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.

  18. Alfred November 20, 2023 at 12:02 pm #

    Rock? This is Hard Place.

    Hard Place? This is Rock.

    Oh, I see you know each other… how quaint.

    I’m Alfred, I’ll be your hostage, er uhm… guest today.

  19. The Man They Call Zazelle November 20, 2023 at 12:04 pm #

    Jim, your/our/this society has sucked shit for a very long time.

    We all know it.

    I never really bought into it despite the glossy ads and you wrote a book or two about some of it decades ago.
    No, no one was having a better day because of that odd tower– whatever it held– with a happy face on it. You threw away that cue card because we knew.

    I would nurture a greater YouTube video, JHK-styled cue-card throwaway-smugness in my not having much bought into this society if I wasn’t busy enough with managing myself vis-a-vis its inevitable decline.

    But good riddance I say. If or as there are any authortiarianisms, current or forthcoming, suffice to say they won’t last too long and the only ones left will be more along the lines of simply fending for ourselves again as we lose some of our self-domestication.

  20. Jo-G November 20, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

    “…rebuilding it must include assurances of personal liberty.”
    I don’t think it MUST include personal liberty during the rebuilding phase. The economic miracle in S. Korea occurred with a dictator who seemed to enforce personal sacrifice for the future good of the nation. Our nation of unruly disrespectful slackers might need a daddy to enforce personal discipline so it becomes a habit before allowing us personal liberty.

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    • SpeedyBB November 23, 2023 at 9:08 pm #

      Jo-G, As the population started its tsunami from the 1950s, I could never see any alternative to an eventual totalitarian rule. Call it a glitzy name, lather it with frosting and tie a bow on the top.

      But if people expect to have access to reliable mains electricity, delivery of food and medications, safe public thoroughfares, a semblance of law and order – complete with cops who know to use that baton and their revolver when necessary – along with orderly business and financial structures, on the scale societies have expanded to, I never saw any way out but the anthill.

      8 billion and counting? Achtung! Law’n’order over the planet.

  21. elysianfield November 20, 2023 at 12:37 pm #

    The Thanksgiving “ritual”

    Yes, a time for family, traditions, and quiet celebration…friends, family, and perhaps a few guests.

    How many stories of the groaning table, the crazy uncle, some tatted, hirsute, bone in the nose nephew or friend of some distant cousin?

    I remember one such event from a half-century past, where a cousin, in full hippy regalia, with her boyfriend, also replete in full counter-cultural raiment’s, both barefoot, loudly informing us, at the table, that they were full-on vegetarians, and could not eat most of the food as presented. They spoke, superficially, of eastern religion, Marxist doggerel, and other obvious counter-cultural gibberish. They were politely ignored.

    Well, At CFN’s table, we have a guest…similar in intent, spouting the most ridiculous of comments, a commenter who I cannot, will not, name posts thus;

    Thy Beautiful Anarchy Cometh. Are Thee Ready?

    —“One Somali visitor to New York City told a friend of mine, ‘We don’t like governments and we just don’t want one.’”

    The other guests give one another knowing glances…one of the uncles, with a napkin to his lips, delicately coughs a “fuck you”, but order soon restored when uncle Pervy, just out of jail for his latest peccadillo, begins to describe a rape-in-the-shower event he witnessed. Crisis averted. decorum restored. There was no more embarrassment…no more talk of anarchy.

    The offending guest was last seen, furiously masturbating behind a bush-too-small out in the yard.


    • elysianfield November 20, 2023 at 5:59 pm #

      Oh, and regarding the Somali visitor…how many denizens of Mogadishu can afford a trip to New York when many of his unfortunate brothers can not afford shoes, or maybe food? An example for us? A Somalian with Simoleons?

      I would invite him, and his clan, to kiss my big black ass….

    • Paula D November 20, 2023 at 6:35 pm #

      I wondered what you were quoting and googled it. Did you even read it?

      It claimed that most Somalis do want their coastline protected. You don’t think that they do?


      • The Man They Call Zazelle November 21, 2023 at 9:38 pm #

        Unsure elysianfield is writing in good faith anymore if they ever were.

    • GreenAlba November 20, 2023 at 7:39 pm #

      “[…] loudly informing us, at the table, that they were full-on vegetarians, and could not eat most of the food as presented.”

      A joke I saw earlier today:

      Restaurant customers: We don’t eat meat, poultry, eggs, cheese or fish. What would you suggest?

      Waitress: A taxi?

  22. Jo-G November 20, 2023 at 12:38 pm #

    ” immersive lying ”

    If Mr. Kunstler had predicted the craziness of the last few years in his book “The Long Emergency” he would have been written off as a total kook. I think our host had tried to provide a rational approach to the problems but our democracies don’t have enough rational voters to elect leaders who will deal with reality. Here in the U.S. consider that any of the crazies we see spouting nonsense are also voters and each could cast the deciding vote for a leader. I don’t trust them to select the best man. At some point another expression I learned from Mr. Kunstler, “Corn Pone Dictator” might look good compared to the clowns in office.

    • Socrates-Detroit November 20, 2023 at 4:34 pm #

      Our host draws us here by criticizing “the blob”, by occasionally reporting facts the mainstream media missed, and by pointing out the fallacy of what the blob peddles, from gender identity, to COVID, to the mRNA shots, to Ukraine.

      But the blob also peddles the lie that “Israel must defend itself” and if that means bombing Palestinians into oblivion, to kill 100 or 1000 Palestinians to get one Hamas fighter, it’s all good.

      No daylight between JHK and the Blob on Israel’s “right” to not only bomb Gaza into oblivion, but to randomly shoot Palestinians, take their land, control their movements, and treat them 10x worse than the “freed” negroes were treated in the US south for decades.

      Ain’t no clever Jewish lawyers and academics gonna take Master Netenyahu and his kind to court, or get Eisenhower or JFK to send troops to protect the victims of racism in “Israel”.

      No. So, when “Palestinians react in violent ways to the Israeli occupation”, it is a heinous crime, and they all should be killed.

      For the record, not all American or Israeli Jews agree with the Israeli government policy, and the US government that makes the Isreali crimes possible.

      Any one willing to visit kunstler.com doesn’t have to veer far to find the truth about Israel–from others and even other Jews. Here’s one who actually LOST a child because of the on-going war:


      But many Jews, most importantly, those who matter, those who are in the “blob”, like several CFNers, Jews and non-Jews alike, are all supportive of Israel’s effort to “destroy Hamas”.

      JHK is another example, a very ELOQUENT example, that, for most people, in the end tribalism trumps principle. His tribe was unfairly killed by Germans, and so they have the right to do the same. So, instead of his interesting reporting of the facts the blob conceals, he just gives us the Fox News line, and paints the facts out.

      As to the opening quote from “Peachy”, someone Rush Limbaugh might once referred to as a former “femme-na-zi”, who’s now awoke, sorry, but she is wrong. (but I’m sure Limbaugh would be all in for killing Palestinians and bombing Iran 🙂

      Israel has always wanted the Palestinians to disappear–but for political reasons, they just couldn’t kill them all off, even thought the IDF has the capability. Now, they have their pretext.

      And while what is happening is industrial scale murder, as heinous as it is, people should be aware that Israel could kill many, MANY more Gazans. But the bad optics make it politically undesirable.

      So Netenyahu is killing as many as he thinks Israel can get away with. The place is hellish (it was before Oct 07), but only looks like half-rubble to me, so many buildings still standing.

      Happy Thanksgiving! Enjoy your turkey!

      • elysianfield November 20, 2023 at 5:55 pm #

        : for most people, in the end tribalism trumps principle. ”

        You know why? Because tribalism is hardwired into the human psych, and principle is culture based.

      • BackRowHeckler November 20, 2023 at 7:06 pm #

        I think the bombing has pretty much ended. IDF SF are inside Gaza engaging Hamas fighters in house to house combat. For the time being rockets fired from Gaza into Israel has ended too, for the time being.

        • Paula D November 21, 2023 at 11:44 am #

          I wondered about that. My news source has been banned, so I had no idea what was going on.

          I did note that the body count didn’t seem to be going up lately, but the usual suspects continue to claim that the bombing was still going on 24/7.

          Somehow, that didn’t seem to add up.

      • Islander November 20, 2023 at 9:37 pm #

        Thanks for continuing to try, Socrates-Detroit.

        For being honest in the teeth of know-nothing, wilful ignorance and intellectual and ethical frivolity.

        I can say with certainty, as the German-speaking granddaughter of a Berlin Jew (and so I can read original sources plus heard this from my mother) that the vast majority of Jewish Germans wanted nothing to do with the Zionist program.

        They saw it for what it was, and foresaw what it would lead to.

        Exactly where Palestine has been since at least the 1930s and what Palestine has become: a European colony/enclave interjected into the ME by force of terrorism and arms that would never be secure and would always be at war with its neighbors and its own indigenous population.

        Seemingly otherwise intelligent Jewish people such as JHK lose their ability to think or see the obvious when it comes to the apartheid Jewish state in Palestine—a state built on thievery violence, and terrorism.

        JDS: Jewish Derangement Syndrome. Alas, poor Jim. The prognosis is poor for him ever to recover his mind—or his reputation.

        He turned down the physical jab only to welcome the mental Israel First virus into his brain.

        • Islander November 20, 2023 at 9:44 pm #

          ” the vast majority of Jewish Germans wanted nothing to do with the Zionist program. ”

          European Jews did not want to go to Palestine. The Third Reich and Nazism were a godsend to the Zionists, for finally getting Palestine populated with a critical mass of Jews.

          The British had a mandate to protect the political interests of local Arabs, so they tried to put a stop to illegal immigration to Palestine. For this they were bombed and soldiers were lynched by Jewish terrorists such as Ben Gurion (David Green), Shamir, and Begin, until they were driven out.

          For some reason this makes Zionist Jews like Jim Kunstler proud. The others hang their heads in shame.

          • Jarek November 21, 2023 at 12:56 pm #

            British sentries were garroted with piano wire. It was the Zealots and the Romans all over again. Probably some of them carried replicas of the old daggers as well.

  23. BULLITT November 20, 2023 at 12:45 pm #

    Thanks, Jim, for a great and very true article. Many may say you are promoting fear porn, I think not. You are calling it the way it is. We are now all residents of a Country that is out of control. Yes, we have control but it’s in the wrong hands.
    The courts used to control those who broke the law. That’s now a joke. Lawmakers passed laws that controlled those who were cheating people. That’s now a joke. We have a President who has sold you to the highest bidder.
    Many of my friends are living like there’s no tomorrow. Maybe they are right.
    Every day we lose more freedom. The top Democrats are really into gun and ammunition control this week. They say we need to protect you and your children. That’s just a way to say we are passing gun laws to protect our own ass!!

  24. RD3 November 20, 2023 at 12:45 pm #

    “The sprawling bureaucracy I call the blob has a blank check to control everything we do, to usurp our individual economic decisions, intrude on our very bodies, snatch us from our homes or lock us up in them, and force us to shut-up about all that. Unlike the Soviets, though, our blob is unable to suppress vile civil misbehavior, murder, rape, looting, car-jacking, robbery at the bottom and fraud, bribery, money laundering, insider trading, cyber-Ponzis, and racketeering, at the top. The law is a new wilderness of iniquity.”

    Yes. The concept is called anarcho-tyranny and was first defined by Sam Francis, the wisest political observer of the past two centuries.

    “anarcho-tyranny” refers to armed dictatorship without rule of law, or a Hegelian synthesis when the state tyrannically or oppressively regulates citizens’ lives yet is unable or unwilling to enforce fundamental protective law.

    • Q. Shtik November 20, 2023 at 2:54 pm #

      Sam Francis, the wisest political observer of the past two centuries. – RD3


      I never heard of Sam Francis. Google says he was a painter and print maker. Not one word about being a political observer. Maybe there’s more than one Sam Francis.

      • malthuss November 20, 2023 at 8:47 pm #

        Sam the artist lived in santa onica canyon. did splash type huge paintings. no doubt he was rich. like dibencorn.

  25. Jarek November 20, 2023 at 12:46 pm #


    Argentina is not planning to become a member of BRICS on January 1, Diana Mondino, senior economic adviser to the country’s president-elect, Javier Milei, told Sputnik Brazil on Monday.

    The invitation to join BRICS was approved in August and extended to Argentina, Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates. The current alliance consists of Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa.

    “I don’t know why there is so much interest around BRICS,” Mondino said, adding that it’s unclear how joining the group would benefit Argentina.

    The candidate for Argentine foreign minister also said that the country’s government will “analyze” if joining the organization promises advantages.

    Milei, who beat Economy Minister Sergio Massa in Sunday’s presidential runoff, had previously voiced opposition to joining BRICS. He has also expressed marked reluctance to support economic ties with China and Brazil while planning to work toward economic rapprochement with the US and Israel.

    Jarek: There you have it volks. Milei is a globalist hack and huckster.

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    • Socrates-Detroit November 21, 2023 at 10:24 am #

      Yep. A globalist masquerading as an “advocate of liberty”.

      Sounds like a lot of US Republicans.

  26. oldandtired November 20, 2023 at 1:25 pm #

    JHK: “ And you might agree that it all started breaking badly in the new century, clearly marked by the attacks of nine-eleven”

    That attack occurred at four hundred miles an hour.

    The attack at the southern border is occurring at 3 miles an hour. This is the one that will be fatal to this nation.

  27. Roundball Shaman November 20, 2023 at 1:32 pm #

    “What was normal, anyway? The second half of the twentieth century in Western Civ, the cornucopia of post-war America, paychecks that covered the house, the car, assured square meals, and quite a bit left over for Disneyworld, a place at the lake with a speedboat, and four seats at the ballpark.”

    Maybe in the long run of History that above era isn’t seen as ‘normal’. But normal or not… it was the best damn time to live in America and be an American. Being an American meant something in those blessed years — at least for very many Americans. And if you were an American and traveled the World you were treated as something admired and special by most places.

    ‘Normal’ isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be. We are now living in some kind of atrocity called the New Normal… and in many ways it ain’t at all new and it sure as hell ain’t normal.

    “… many of you will recognize at least some of that being present in your lives for a while, at least. And you might agree that it all started breaking badly in the new century, clearly marked by the attacks of nine-eleven.”

    It started going haywire after the Dark State’s hideous ushering off of Planet Earth of a much-beloved President (at least in retrospect) in the early 1960s. But that was just one symptom of a much deeper sickness that we did not yet recognize.

    The self-appointed Globalist faux gods became horrified when They saw middle-class Americans actually living good lives and acquiring some wealth and social stability of a new kind. And that actually horrified the Dark Globalists who did not want any of that kind of thing for We the People. We are supposed to be chattel under their thumbs and heavy boot forever… and the prosperous post-war era of the 1950s began to get the Dark State motivated to plot our destruction. And without going through the laundry list of everything They have done to us since then… They can have wildly successful in ruining our lives… in bankrupting us… in taking away our freedoms… and grinding our hopes and dreams for the future into the dirt. Mission Accomplished, Dark boys and girls?

    “Perhaps the anxious gloom pervading this year’s Thanksgiving is due to the dread of what comes next.”

    We don’t have to obsess about what will come next. It will find us all on its own. Instead, we have to do something radical in response.

    And that is? Still BEING THANKFUL. For having the gift of Life. For having our families. For still having food on our plates and a reason to get up the next day.

    The Dark State WANTS us mentally defeated. We cannot give that to Them… not for Their sake but for OURS. We don’t deserve that kind of thinking and the kind of life that such a thing creates.

    So, as you’re giving thanks in your own way for the blessings you recognize in your own life… practice RADICAL THANKSGIVING in this and future seasons. Because not only is the right thing to do to acknowledge the precious gift of Life you’ve been having… but this also serves as a great big EFF YOU to all those who hide in the shadows and try to suck all the joy and meaning out of our Life.

    And you know what? Give thanks that one day soon… those pathetic spirits won’t have any power and won’t be bothering you any more. Your troubles on that account will be over… and Theirs will just be beginning. And deep and heart-felt Thanks for THAT…

    • Ron Anselmo November 20, 2023 at 4:17 pm #

      Very nice summary on being thankful RS – yes, every day we can wake up being thankful for what we have or wake up being disappointed in what we don’t have – the former brings peace and contentment, but unfortunately, many choose the latter.

  28. beantownbill. November 20, 2023 at 1:54 pm #

    So Thursday is a day to give thanks. Do we have anything to be thankful of?

    Are the readers here alive? Well, that’s the biggest thing to be thankful for. If not thankful, just kill yourself.

    Are there any CFNers who are homeless? No? Give thanks.

    Are there any CFNers who haven’t anything to eat? No? Give thanks.

    I see people here who are just complainers (I admit I’m one of them, sometimes).

    Has the US defaulted on its debt, yet? Have you been assaulted and physically damaged? Can you go outside when you want, vote (ok, just write-in Mickey Mouse if you don’t see anyone you like and feel you must vote), say what you want without being killed, etc.?

    Then you don’t have it so bad. But what about tomorrow? But tomorrow hasn’t happened yet. Live in the now – that’s what wise men say, so why put out energy about what may happen tomorrow? Tomorrow a comet may crash down on us from behind the sun, or the sun itself may spit out a giant blob of particles which are in the path of our planet, or maybe one of the Earth’s super volcanoes explodes and blots out the sun for 100 years, or China, Iran, Russia, North Korea say fuck it and drops some nukes on us.

    But that stuff hasn’t occurred and only God knows what the future will bring. I could even add a shitload more of bad things. But everything is just supposition.

    So instead of worrying or complaining, why don’t we focus on the good things we already have?

    • GreenAlba November 20, 2023 at 2:17 pm #

      “But everything is just supposition.”

      Well, not entirely. Most of ‘their’ plans for us are well documented – by ‘them’. But have a good Thanksgiving anyway, as we have indeed been fortunate so far. And we should enjoy each day, while alerting as many people as will listen to what ‘they’ are planning for tomorrow. The more people are awake to their plans, the harder their plans will be to implement.

    • OG November 20, 2023 at 2:24 pm #

      Sorry to complain, Bill, but Mickey Mouse is a Satanist.

      • Socrates-Detroit November 20, 2023 at 4:05 pm #

        You’re not complaining about Mickey. You’re merely stating that he is a Satanist.

        One does not have to literally worship Satan to be a Satanist. Merely the rejection of God is enough. When one rejects the existence of God, Satan has won that person.

        Walt Disney was a secularist. His nice cartoons seem harmless enough, but they often separate children from God, and these children may grow up to be Godless adults. Disney also helped promote a culture of rampant consumerism, which helped feed a degree of excess which is unmatched anywhere. Not even Canada matches us!

        Of course, you can do that when you start with a large, undeveloped tract of GOOD land, which is what the US was. The Native Americans were valiant, but no match for the Europeans, so unlike the rest of the world, where different. much more closely matched (even when one had an advantage) groups had to fight each other for real estate, here there were no limits.

        And if nature put limits–technology could address them, with the miracle grow of abundant, stable oil, gas, and coal.

        Las Vegas and Arizona are deserts–no problem, water works.

        Chesterfield (west of St Loius) is a flood plain (last flood 1994)–no problem, build drainage and levees system. Today the flood plain is highly developed.

        Well, the Indians are gone. But so is the cheap energy. And so is America’s dominance in quality manufactured goods from 1945 to 1960, which created enough real wealth to allow “the blob” AND the middle and working class to grow richer. To forget God.

        And to worship Disneyland, Mickey Mouse, and so forth.

        • GreenAlba November 20, 2023 at 5:05 pm #

          I’ve never been to Disneyland but my brief childhood acquaintance with Mickey Mouse, Snow White et al didn’t do me any harm that I’m aware of.

          • Night Owl November 20, 2023 at 5:16 pm #

            Ask Bill about it. He goes there often when not telling other CFNers to stop complaining, or to shut up and take their lethal injections.

            In fact, that is exactly what ol’ Bill was talking about at that time.

            A herd creature and hall monitor.

          • malthuss November 20, 2023 at 8:48 pm #

            disneyland orange county. theres a club 33 there.

        • Night Owl November 21, 2023 at 4:38 am #

          “And if nature put limits–technology could address them, with the miracle grow of abundant, stable oil, gas, and coal.

          Las Vegas and Arizona are deserts–no problem, water works.

          Chesterfield (west of St Loius) is a flood plain (last flood 1994)–no problem, build drainage and levees system. Today the flood plain is highly developed.”

          Careful, the anti-“cornucopians” are no doubt most displeased with this post.

          What is this sorcery you speak of? Surely you have heard of our impending doom and the inability of the Earth to sustain any more humans!


      • beantownbill. November 20, 2023 at 4:06 pm #

        I knew that when he did his thing with the broomsticks.

        • Q. Shtik November 20, 2023 at 4:25 pm #

          What thing was done with broomsticks and by whom?

          • beantownbill. November 20, 2023 at 7:00 pm #

            I think it was in the movie Fantasia (1940), when Mickey played the sorcerer’s apprentice and without his master’s approval began casting a spell to bring to life some broomsticks. They kept multiplying and soon things got out of control until the sorcerer came to stop the spell. I saw the movie years and years ago, so my memory of it may be a little off.

        • cowbell81 November 20, 2023 at 4:31 pm #

          Are you referring to Fantasia? A lot of 1940s magic, trickery, and sorcery going on there.

          • beantownbill. November 20, 2023 at 7:22 pm #

            Yes, I was.

          • Soul Forensics November 20, 2023 at 8:16 pm #


            Yeah, a spell to bring life to broomsticks is proof that Disney was a Satanist.

            Maybe Occam’s razor, as often, provides the best answer. Children have active imaginations, and believe in magical possibilities which, at their age, is a healthy outlet.

          • OG November 21, 2023 at 12:49 am #

            LOL! Yeah, a spell to bring life to broomsticks is proof that Disney was a Satanist.

            No. Not proof. Rather, a result.

            Walter’s status as a 33-degree Freemason is the proof.

            You can’t see the forest for the trees, SF.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 21, 2023 at 8:02 pm #

            I never liked the modern Disney stuff, but do recall enjoying as a kid some of their very early animations that seemed wonderfully-surreal. Maybe not all of it, though.

  29. beantownbill. November 20, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

    I guess I’m just tired of the “We are so fucked stuff”.

    • Alfred November 20, 2023 at 2:09 pm #

      Thomas Hobbes was an optimist.

    • cowbell81 November 20, 2023 at 3:24 pm #

      Each day you wake up and get live, eat, breathe, etc, that is a day to be thankful for. Things always seem to be bad in the moment, but then in retrospect not so bad. All in all, we here have it pretty good. The fact that we all get to convene here on this blog at least twice a week to bitch and gossip shows that we have it pretty good.

      On Thursday I am going to eat my turkey, drink some beer, and get a good night’s sleep. Sounds pretty peachy to me.

      • Ron Anselmo November 20, 2023 at 4:24 pm #

        Rest up, so you can be up early enough to be first to comment on the Jim’s Friday morning post.

        • cowbell81 November 20, 2023 at 4:37 pm #

          Haha, that’s a good one, point well taken. However, I do believe I will be staying off the Internet beginning Thursday and through the long holiday weekend. So will be back at it and fresh come Monday morning.

    • Night Owl November 20, 2023 at 5:19 pm #

      Just as you were so tired of us talking about the “unvaccinated” being designated the new Untermenschen, blocked from stores, banks, Christmas markets, etc.

      Good ol’ Bill.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle November 20, 2023 at 6:18 pm #

        Enabling Whose Reality?

        I ain’t no anarchist.” ~ Night Owl, kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/light-in-the-darkness/#comment-839849

        So you’re ok with, say, the likes of your favourite, Hunter Biden, and their (& cronies’) exploits, including ‘Lolita Express’, along with, for examples, ‘mandates’ (sounds so benign, yes?), like vaccinations and/or social isolation, such as from stores, banks and markets?

        Or general socioeconomic rape? Etcetera?

        Where do you want to go or what do you want to do if your world is manufactured around you by actors who don’t necessarily have your interests at heart and actually in many case operate against them, Night Owl?

        Do you just complain weekly on CFN and maybe at a venue through your music, or what?…

        Remember this quote from JHK?:

        “A nation can only take so much corruption, crime, and unreality. ‘We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality’, said Karl Rove, veteran blobster and advisor to George W. Bush, when he uttered those fateful words. Even political junkies forget the rest of what he said:

        And while you’re studying that reality [and/or complaining about it] — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.” ~ JHK, kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/leaving-blobtopia/

        What are what you call, ‘enablers’?

        And such as if you ‘ain’t no anarchist’?

        • Night Owl November 21, 2023 at 4:34 am #

          You’ll have to translate this into something comprehensible and less non-sequiturish before I can respond to whatever point you may be trying to make.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 21, 2023 at 7:55 pm #

            How about; given your understandable gripes about government (and its mandates and odd sex laptops) what are you doing about it besides illustrating it online?

            My point with JHK’s quote at the end (bolded no less to drive the point home) was as a kind of agreement, say, that if we do nothing, our mandators will get their way and forget their ideas– not yours– of a world around us, like a prison.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 21, 2023 at 7:56 pm #


            “…and forget their ideas…”

            should read;

            “…and forge their ideas…”

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 12:12 am #

            Or I guess I should ask, what can we both do about it?

            I’m doing stuff, and have already shared some of it– maybe you’ve noticed– but your take would be interesting nonetheless. If you hadn’t really thought about it, that’s fine. Maybe if you did or do find the time, feel free to let me/us know.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 12:15 am #

            See also:


          • Night Owl November 22, 2023 at 10:37 am #

            I have done what I can and have discussed this on many occasions–including nearly getting arrested several times over the past few years for partaking in protests (maskless, which made it a more serious offence here in the Fourth Reich).

            I have no need to prove anything to you.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 23, 2023 at 4:47 pm #

            It’s not a matter of proving anything, as if it’s some kind of gun to your head, Night Owl, but rather simply adding, and in an ongoing way, to the discourse, in part as inspiration.

            Even if it’s something ongoing that you are trying to work out, but it’s incomplete, maybe frustrating.

            Unsure protests, maybe appealing to the State, do much, but they might, such as when/where there are many others doing it at the same time. So it’s something, and kudos.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 23, 2023 at 5:03 pm #

            @ Night Owl, see also here:


            (November 23, 2023 at 4:15 pm)

      • OG November 20, 2023 at 11:59 pm #

        That’s nothing, Zilcher. A couple days after 10/7, you were begging us to stop discussing the war in the Middle East!

        Ehhh, what a maroon!
        – Bugs Bunny

    • The Man They Call Zazelle November 20, 2023 at 7:03 pm #

      Escaping Prison

      I guess I’m just tired of the ‘We are so fucked stuff’.” ~ beantownbill

      It seems kind of like a dog chasing its tail. It’s fun, maybe therapeutic for awhile, but then it’s like…

      ‘Ok, so what are we doing, or going to do (and when), about it?‘.

      Otherwise, I guess other people– maybe some we especially find particularly unsavory– are going to forge their notions of a world around us. Pull it over our eyes like wool. Even if some of us see it, it won’t matter if we do nothing and essentially enable it.

      “Morpheus: I imagine that right now, you’re feeling a bit like Alice. Tumbling down the rabbit hole? Hmm?
      Neo: You could say that.
      Morpheus: I see it in your eyes. You have the look of a man who accepts what he sees because he is expecting to wake up. Ironically, that’s not far from the truth. Do you believe in fate, Neo?
      Neo: No.
      Morpheus: Why not?
      Neo: Because I don’t like the idea that I’m not in control of my life.
      Morpheus: I know exactly what you mean. Let me tell you why you’re here. You’re here because you know something. What you know you can’t explain, but you feel it. You’ve felt it your entire life, that there’s something wrong with the world. You don’t know what it is, but it’s there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I’m talking about?
      Neo: The Matrix.
      Morpheus: Do you want to know what it is?
      Neo: Yes.
      Morpheus: The Matrix is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it when you look out your window or when you turn on your television [propaganda]. You can feel it when you go to work [wage slavery/’bullshit jobs’]… when you go to church [ideological indoctrination]… when you pay your taxes [legalized theft by coercive State governments]. It is the world [wool] that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth.
      Neo: What truth?
      Morpheus: That you are a slave, Neo. Like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind.” ~ The Matrix, film

  30. tom clark November 20, 2023 at 4:24 pm #

    Enjoy TG for sure, but always remember that infinite growth can’t go on forever in a finitr world and conduct your personal business accordingly

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  31. Jarek November 20, 2023 at 4:56 pm #

    Thanksgiving is football (and advertising) day.
    Black Friday is for shopping and “deals”.

    Neither day is to thank the Indians for Socialism as Rush used to say.

    • tom clark November 20, 2023 at 5:21 pm #

      Ah, yes…Rush Limbaugh…the pride and joy of Cape Giraardeau, MO.

    • cowbell81 November 20, 2023 at 5:24 pm #

      Don’t forget about the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade. Word has it that they are taking it to a whole new level of wokeness this year. Yet another reason not to waste any time watching it.

  32. The Man They Call Zazelle November 20, 2023 at 5:23 pm #

    If Israel wanted to do a genocide of Gazans, they’d have razed it decades ago. There are many Israeli Arabs who enjoy more rights than any Arab in an Arab country. The urge to do blanket ethnic genocide is a one-way street, something only barbarians and demons crave.” ~ Peachy Keenan

    Tell you what, Peach. Some of us will ‘legally’ ‘break’ into your residence, take over areas of it and treat some of you, in our areas, ‘better’, in our opinion, than you treat yourselves, in the rest of the house.


    • tucsonspur November 20, 2023 at 6:05 pm #

      Tell it like it is, Zaz!

      • The Man They Call Zazelle November 20, 2023 at 10:01 pm #

        Some commenters seem to want to eat their cake and have it too. This is sort of possible if they wait awhile and shit it out. Then they can have it again and eat it too.

    • beantownbill. November 20, 2023 at 7:14 pm #

      Tell you what, Zaz. I won’t legally break into your house – unless you come and rape, torture and murder my family. Then all bets are off.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle November 20, 2023 at 7:45 pm #

        “We tortured some folks.” ~ Former USA President, Barack Obama

        Another fave from our man:

        Obama: A Nation State Is a Monopoly on Violence


        Apparently, Hamas is a bit of an Israel creation, rather, perhaps, like ISIS/ISIL is/was of US’.

        Here’s a pic of our child in a bombed-out classroom, apparently in Hiroshima (what was left of it):


        Cuz we’ve been doing so well and setting great examples as parents.

        • Socrates-Detroit November 21, 2023 at 10:48 am #

          Yes, Israel sought to undercut Arafat by encouraging another “alternate” Palestinian leadership, to divide the Palestinians and make it easier for Israel to not accede to a real two-state solution.

          It’s certainly clear to me now that Israel’s plan has been to exterminate the Palestinians all along, since 1948.

          The Palestinians have been treated like animals–before Oct 07.

          In Gaza, before Oct 07, they lived essentially in the worlds’s largest concentration camp, much like the Jews existed in the Warsaw Ghetto after Germany overran Poland in WW2. The Jews reached a point where they rebelled, and the Germans killed all of Jews.

          And now, the Israelis are killing many Palestinians in their quest to remove all the Palestinians.

          In the West Bank, they live an apartheid regime where their land and water are confiscated, they are arrested or killed at will, and cannot go from one to town to another without papers and checkpoints.

          Having been treated like animals, on Oct 07, some of the Hamas fighters behaved like animals. Inexcusable but understandable.

          A few American slaves also behaved like that and revolted, perhaps the most famous being Nate Turner, revolted and killed all the whites they could find.

          The Israeli reaction has been vastly disproportionate.

          It will blow back to the USA, just like slavery did, and deservedly so.

          • Socrates-Detroit November 21, 2023 at 4:44 pm #

            maybe not deservedly. But this Palestinian genocide is going to blow back.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 21, 2023 at 8:45 pm #

            And some wonder why I’m an anarchist…

            I’ve posted this a few times on this site and elsewhere and it seems at least somewhat apt here as well:

            Kid: ‘Daddy? Why are there rich people?’
            Dad: ‘What do you mean by rich? You mean like in spirit?’
            Kid: ‘No-o-o-o-o… Like they have lots of big houses and cars and money!’
            Dad: ‘Ohhh, you mean those kinds. Well, you see, sweetie, our society allows some people to make more money than other people, working no harder than anyone else. Society then allows those with more money to acquire more land than others. Over time, this creates the dynamic for most, if not all, problems we have in society today, from landlessness, homelessness and poverty, to social unrest, war and civilizational collapse.’
            Kid: ‘Why does society allow that?!’
            Dad: ‘Corruption. Society uses force to uphold rules that say that one person with more money can have more land than another with less money.’
            Kid: ‘Why can’t we stop that!?’
            Dad: ‘Corruption again: This setup is upheld by people with guns and weapons, or access to them, like cops, security guards and military people– people who often don’t understand this basic and very simple immoral core of our society.’
            Kid: ‘ 🙁 ‘
            Dad: ‘Ya; 🙁 ‘

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 1:45 am #

            “Having been treated like animals, on Oct 07, some of the Hamas fighters behaved like animals. Inexcusable but understandable.” ~ Socrates-Detroit

            Perhaps you’ve noticed a bit of a ‘dialogue’ (if we can call it that) between myself and a commenter who goes by the nick, elysianfield…

            Simply put, they might be able/willing to learn something here about the State and how it can create its own ‘monsters’ that it then tasks itself to ‘treat’.

            What’s that called? A conflict of interest? A racket?

            I own a window company, say, that, to drum up business, I send my operatives to residences when the residents aren’t home to break their windows.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 1:48 am #

            But this Palestinian genocide is going to blow back.” ~ Socrates-Detroit

            ‘For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction’?

  33. tucsonspur November 20, 2023 at 5:56 pm #

    I reject the usual, self-deceiving, self-comforting surrender to the febrile fabrications of a God. To consider me a Satanist would be foolish to say the least. I do believe in the ‘higher powers’ of a mysterious Universe and that ‘spirituality’ is the better option as compared to the murderous, Abrahamic religions for example.

    I’ve explained my idea of spirituality in previous posts, and to repeat myself, I also won’t attack people for their religious beliefs unless they do so to others. It’s understandable, religions mollify the world’s often frightening reality.

    ‘The other half can’t get traction to storm this slippery slope of blob despotism.’

    ‘I’m grateful and thankful this year that there are enough of us who understand what’s at stake and are prepared to fight against slithering tyranny. Do you see where things stand this Thanksgiving? It feels like the edge of something because it is the edge of something.’

    Great work as usual, Jim. Maybe we can’t get that traction because we are just too comfortable and have too much to be thankful for to put it all at risk. Things are bad, real bad, but not actually bad enough? Some of the Jan. 6th protesters have gotten prison terms nearing two decades and more than 250 will spend time behind bars.

    Steel chains will be needed to navigate that slippery slope of blobism and all we have are bald tires and too little torque.

    ‘Are prepared to fight against slithering tyranny’? How, by voting? Good luck with that. Most will want to avoid jailhouse slop and realize that they are better off eating their turkey rather than becoming one.

    Looking at the meek, feeble response after Ashli Babbitt and the SWAT team raid on the president’s home, it wasn’t difficult to see that our ‘bird’ was well basted and just about done.

    Yeah Jim, it is the edge of something. And it’s also the end of something. It’s the end of the ‘old America’ and the edge of darkness.

    • GreenAlba November 21, 2023 at 9:49 am #

      “I do believe in the ‘higher powers’ of a mysterious Universe”

      Could you give an example of those ‘higher powers’ (I’m taking the laws of physics to be among its everyday powers).

      Or are they all too mysterious?

      • tucsonspur November 22, 2023 at 4:38 pm #

        Much is mysterious, like quantum reality, e. g. The laws of physics and biochemistry are mostly well known, a manifestation of a lower reality that we can readily comprehend.

        ‘Higher powers’ are just that, powers beyond human ken. Some people create their own higher power and call it God, at least realizing the limited scope of our consciousness.

        Yes, much is wonderfully mysterious. In a sense, it all is.

        Can you give an example of God outside of your own creation? Of course you can’t.

      • GreenAlba November 22, 2023 at 8:34 pm #

        I never mentioned God. I’m curious to know what a higher power of the universe means and I’m still curious, since you haven’t told me anything.

  34. The Man They Call Zazelle November 20, 2023 at 5:56 pm #

    Lost In The Flatlands Of The Strange-Bedfellow Clusterfuck

    “…The arch gay-hustler/anarchist/hammer-wielding Canadian is found Guilty! Maybe 50 years!


    Now this is big. Those of you with prodigious GLiTs will recognize, further, that it was a conspiracy… Depape had help, was financed, and encouraged by other members of his Gay-Anarchist Catamites and fellow travelers/ A huge group, mostly NAMBLA members, and headquartered in the vine-covered Junior College of Oakland California, ‘The Grove Street Campus’, a well known venue of deep thinkers that also spawned the Black Panther Movement in the 60’s…Huey went there!

    Yes, heady stuff. There are also rumors that there are other conspirators that the police are seeking…One police spokesman, on the promise of anonymity, suggests that they are seeking a person of interest…only described as ‘A man called Zazelle…’ ” ~ elysianfield, kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/leaving-blobtopia/#comment-840180

    Lost In The Flatlands Of The Strange-Bedfellow Clusterfuck

    ‘Koehler, founding director of the German Institute for Radicalization and de-Radicalization Studies, has identified key ‘bridging areas’ that span disparate ideologies — chief among them are antisemitism, misogyny and anti-government or anti-establishment beliefs. Those bridges, he said, work ‘as a kind of ideological highway between these environments that are usually very exclusive and consider each other to be mortal enemies.

    In Germany, Koehler said, he sees the blurriness these days in anti-vaccination and covid-19 denial movements, where far-left protesters have openly mixed with white supremacists.

    “There have been times where they produce memes and propaganda that calls upon antifascists or anarchists even to form an alliance against the democratic Western society’, Koehler said. ‘They think they could unite forces on the shared premise of, ‘We reject dualism, we reject democracy, we reject a free-market society.’

    Recent years have provided several examples of such bridges leading to plots and violence, such as white nationalists overlapping with the misogynistic ‘incel’ movement or borrowing leftist climate talking points to whip up right-wing fears over racial competition for resources. White supremacist mass shooters in Christchurch, New Zealand, and El Paso both dropped environmentalist themes into the notes they wrote before their deadly attacks.’ ~ The Washington Post, October 31, 2022


    (Throws elysianfield et al. a compass…)

    ~ The Man They Call Zazelle, kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/leaving-blobtopia/#comment-840547


    “ ‘Six Degrees Of Separation

    …is the idea that all people are six or fewer social connections away from each other. As a result, a chain of ‘friend of a friend’ statements can be made to connect any two people in a maximum of six steps. It is also known as the six handshakes rule.

    The concept was originally set out in a 1929 short story by Frigyes Karinthy, in which a group of people play a game of trying to connect any person in the world to themselves by a chain of five others. It was popularized in John Guare’s 1990 play Six Degrees of Separation.

    The idea is sometimes generalized to the average social distance being logarithmic in the size of the population…’ ~ Wikipedia ” ~ The Man They Call Zazelle, kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/leaving-blobtopia/#comment-840548

    • elysianfield November 20, 2023 at 6:17 pm #

      “(Throws elysianfield et al. a compass…)

      Why throw a man a compass when he has a GPS receiver?

      “Six degrees of separation” has as much validity as “The Butterfly Effect”. Gen X wisdom.

      I suspect that you would have us sprout wings of understanding to soar with the flatus you generate?

      You remain to offer us snippets of one failed PhD thesis or another that passes for justification of your closely held but little understood political paradigm. And you offer us a comment from some damned Somali from an obviously failed state as justification? A Somalian with Simoleons?

      What of the roiling millions of Somalians who are not in favor of one warlord or another? What say they?

      The above comment is offered, of course, with love….

      • BackRowHeckler November 20, 2023 at 6:57 pm #

        Somalia, what a place to feature in making your case for the wonders of Anarchy. Probably the worst sh#thole on earth.

        I doubt Zaz will be booking a trip to Somalia anytime soon. And if he did, I wonder how long he’d last? I can picture Zaz standing on a soapbox in some squalid, dusty desert town imploring passersby to join up with his internationalist anarchist organization … suddenly shots ring out casually fired by a platoon of child soldiers toting battered Kalashnikovs.

        “There’s Zaz’s anarchy, in spades.”

        • The Man They Call Zazelle November 20, 2023 at 9:43 pm #


          “Ok, I think I see part of your point now from way in the back row here… The brutal State government dictatorship of Somalia failed, thanks in part also, not to anarchists, but to other States using its waters as dumping-grounds.” ~ BackRowHeckler (hypothetical)

      • The Man They Call Zazelle November 20, 2023 at 7:28 pm #

        Not really the point.
        So maybe a compass is a better idea in your case(s) then.

        Because we already know about Somalia and the short story behind the Six Degrees of Separation.

        Hey, check this out:


      • ZrCrypDiK November 20, 2023 at 8:11 pm #

        “Why throw a man a compass when he has a GPS receiver?”

        Magnetic North, man – declination!!!

        • The Man They Call Zazelle November 20, 2023 at 9:55 pm #

          “When we are trying to get to a place we have never been before, we can navigate there using a compass or GPS. While both tools require a clear destination, how you navigate to that destination is vastly different.

          …At the start of our leadership retreat last week, Will Mills shared a powerful analogy that I have been thinking about all week. He said that we need to expect we will be navigating using a compass rather than GPS.

          GPS needs well-traveled paths and roads and gives exact directions, while a compass only points directionally and requires much more awareness and flexibility. When we are trying to achieve results that no one has ever done before, we will need to think about the process more like using a compass rather than GPS.

          The implications of that shift in mindset are profound.

          We need to expect ambiguity and lots of unexpected peaks and valleys.

          We need to be comfortable with messiness.

          We cannot confirm our path by following our peers.

          We need to accept that there are many ways to get there and be willing to explore different paths.

          We need ways to quickly check the feasibility of a path.

          We need to openly share the paths that did not work along with those that did work with our teammates.

          We need to be supportive and kind to ourselves and each other as we try new things.

          Our leaders are asking us to create a new path forward. This is both thrilling and terrifying and I am inviting each of you to join us on the journey.” ~ Cindy Leavitt, Ohio State University

          • elysianfield November 21, 2023 at 2:12 am #

            “GPS needs well-traveled paths and roads and gives exact directions”

            I fear you know as much about the GPS system as you might about fornication.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 21, 2023 at 8:13 pm #

            elysianfield, Cindy Leavitt’s quote seems a little metaphoric, such that mine was about the compass.

            So, ‘red herring’ on your part?

            Nevertheless, just for fun, what is understood about compasses versus GPS systems– and I’m happy to be corrected– is the level and complexity of technology involved in the latter compared with the former.

            Caveat perhaps; Murphy’s Law.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 21, 2023 at 8:14 pm #

            …If the Orion constellation is available in the sky to see, I can find it, along with its Betelgeuse.

          • elysianfield November 21, 2023 at 10:25 pm #


            I am not a stargazer, and have absolutely NO interest in constellations. Could.Not.Care.Less.

            If you look at the stars, and maybe clouds, you might see castles, Jesus, even justification for your thesis.

            I’ll stay grounded with my GPS, my several military Lensatic compasses, and my Brunton pocket transit.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 12:40 am #

            I’ve decided to have fun with your red herring, and the point there is that we can navigate by the stars too.

          • elysianfield November 22, 2023 at 1:06 am #

            “I’ve decided to have fun with your red herring, and the point there is that we can navigate by the stars too.”

            Unfortunately, it is a skill I never learned. I respect those that can, however. I am familiar with sextant use, but never have acquired one.

    • Soul Forensics November 20, 2023 at 8:24 pm #

      Gish gallop. Scroll on by.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle November 20, 2023 at 9:28 pm #

        A large part of it is elysianfield’s article.

        • Soul Forensics November 21, 2023 at 1:19 am #

          “A large part of it is elysianfield’s article.” — Zaz

          Right, right.

          The evidence is there if people care to check it. Again, breaking up your gish gallop into consecutive posts rather than jamming it all into one blitzkrieg, is still a gish gallop, a flimsy attempt akin to a cat covering its shit.

          In your gish gallop, you quoted elysianfield, newsmax, the WaPo, and wiki (all in one post), as well as Obama, a yootoob video, a bbc video, the Matrix movie, Night Owl, and JHK.

          Yep. Sure seems just “mostly” elysianfield all right.

          You’re not going to get along with your hypothetical rainbows and sunshine community very well if you lie to them like you lie to us. You could read any of the books or watch any of the movies I kindly referenced for your education on how these tedious human shortcomings work in a putatively homologous setting.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 21, 2023 at 7:38 pm #

            Maybe you should stick to poetry, Jim, assuming it’s you of course. You never denied it though. But you see, I did some research. That was part of my point.

            Frankly, if it is you, I like your voice and that particular poem’s delivery and even, given if recalled, its collapse concept, the off-frame and dark-lit background. It’s brilliant, even if it was a happy accident.

            If you recited other poems online like that, you could even garner quite a following, if not even some coin if you already don’t. Call it ‘bedtime stories for lucid nightmares’ or something like that.

            That way you don’t have to concern yourself with your catch-all ‘gish gallops’ in the form of cites, references or research– that kind of thing– from me or whoever attempts to shove a boot up your ass– poetically-speaking of course.

            As for anarchy, I’ve already made the case previously. Assuming you’ve read it, I can’t help some who wish to be willfully ignorant– you know, lead a horse to water and all that– and in the process, you and/or whoever arguing against a better society and relationships and with the rationalization that there are bad people and so we need a bad society/system to deal with them.

            Makes little sense.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 8:13 am #

            Soul Forensic’s Alternate Reality Reading Subscription?

            In your gish gallop, you quoted elysianfield, newsmax, the WaPo, and wiki (all in one post), as well as Obama, a yootoob video, a bbc video, the Matrix movie, Night Owl, and JHK.” ~ Soul Forensics

            Not all in that one comment you’re replying to.

            Night Owl? Obama? BBC/You Tube videos?

            Not there.

            Newsmax was elysianfield’s, and you appear to have confused and/or attributed CFN-comment links to ‘JHK’.

            And perhaps so in a rush to use the term ‘gish gallop’ again that, in your haste, you appear to have fused two or more comments together in your head.

            Or maybe you’re simply reading from a different subscription of my comments. Like another Zaz. That would be neat.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 8:28 am #

            By the way, to support my contention for one example, and help you out a little, here’s my separate and only comment where I mention BBC:


            Just copy that and paste that in your browser’s address bar and the comment should appear.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 8:41 am #

            A Forensics On The Galloping Gaslight

            …And since I’m on a roll, my mention of The Matrix is in yet another separate comment here:


            So, yes, you have definitely fused more than a few comments together in your head, possibly so as to railroad that ol’ ‘gish gallop’ in.

            Yee haw.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle November 20, 2023 at 9:58 pm #

        If you can’t handle some comments, there’re always the kindergartens, too, Soul Forensics.

        • OG November 20, 2023 at 11:00 pm #

          Don’t let it bother you, Zaz. Your stuff is interesting while SF is what we used to call: a whiny little puke.

          • Soul Forensics November 21, 2023 at 1:39 am #

            OG has suddenly turned on me like an infuriated little high school girl, supporting her grrrrl team to call their new enemy names.


          • Night Owl November 21, 2023 at 4:32 am #

            Get ready for hundreds of bipolar screeds in which he can’t even remember what he said about you the week before.

            Maybe its the maple syrup. It’s probably all he has left after being cheated out of his multi-millions to some “random Kinkles.”


          • OG November 21, 2023 at 12:05 pm #

            Youse two are perfect together. A perfect match. A couple of whiny little pukes.

            Zilcher is the worst straw man-builder since the Queen herself.

            I’m out $1.4mm. The Finkles were the beneficiaries of half of that sizeable sum but I do not blame them – they were simply at the right place at the right time.

            Regardless, crooked lawyers and random Finkles ended up with the proceeds of my top-percentile successful life’s work. Notwithstanding your little-girl glee at my tragedy and the unjust stripping of my children’s birthright, Zilcher, I pray that nobody will ever take from you what you spent 50 years achieving. And, if that does happen to you too, I pray that you do not suffer the insult after injury of little weasels like you.

          • OG November 21, 2023 at 12:08 pm #

            And, actually, no, SF, me calling you a “whiny little puke” is purely testosterone-driven. Where/when I come from, the girls didn’t talk like that while us young men carrying hockey sticks did about little whiny pukes like you.

            Pure balls.

          • Night Owl November 21, 2023 at 4:07 pm #

            We are not a team, Mapleleaf Bro. Just two individuals on which you seem to have worked your bipolar magic.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 21, 2023 at 7:47 pm #

            Zen & The Art Of Anger-Ownership

            “OG has suddenly turned on me like an infuriated little high school girl, supporting her grrrrl team to call their new enemy names.

            Glorious.” ~ Soul Forensics

            That’s kind of reminiscent of Night Owl’s response to others. Not that anything happens in a vacuum mind you and we can creatively glue collages of different styles.

            In any case, while yours may have been directed at OG, I will continue my shoehorn here by saying that, as for me, my inner Zenmaster says that I own my anger and leverage it constructively.

            I don’t always listen to him but there you go. LOL

            So, if anyone wants to suggest I’m angry and then make fun of it (straw man maybe?), suffice to say I’m happy to own it and therefore in part admit it.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle November 20, 2023 at 9:25 pm #

      elysianfield’s All-In-One Straw Man, Appeal To Emotion & Association Fallacies

      “…The arch gay-hustler/anarchist/hammer-wielding Canadian is found Guilty!

      Yes, heady stuff. There are also rumors that there are other conspirators that the police are seeking…One police spokesman, on the promise of anonymity, suggests that they are seeking a person of interest…only described as ‘A man called Zazelle…’ ” ~ elysianfield, kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/leaving-blobtopia/#comment-840180

      Cuz elysianfield respects the readership and its intelligence.

      • elysianfield November 21, 2023 at 5:48 pm #

        “Cuz elysianfield respects the readership and its intelligence.”

        …Thems as has it….

        • The Man They Call Zazelle November 21, 2023 at 7:50 pm #

          Feel free to let me know when you want to have an adult conversation, such as about the feasibility and imperative of anarchy, that doesn’t insult the readerships intelligence.

          • elysianfield November 21, 2023 at 10:18 pm #

            With all honesty, I do believe that ANY conversation regarding the benefits of widespread anarchy would insult the intelligence of the readership.

            You can argue for pederasty or murder for hire, and achieve the same acceptance…necrophagy would receive a better reception…ESPECIALLY if you offer recipes.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 12:59 am #

            Elysianfield’s Company?

            Frankly, and what with your asinine and cavalier flippancy, you appear to insult your own intelligence too.
            Maybe, however, I give you too much charitable benefit of doubt in that regard.

            Because maybe you truly don’t really care about people or society or yourself and– ironically and/or paradoxically– you place yourself in the company of those who you seem to argue make (‘widespread’ now ay?) anarchy impossible.

            You wouldn’t be the first.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 1:03 am #

            “…pederasty… murder… necrophagy…” ~ elysianfield

          • elysianfield November 22, 2023 at 1:10 am #

            “you place yourself in the company of those who you seem to argue make (‘widespread’ now ay?) anarchy impossible.

            Funny you should say that. In my youth I was PAID to make anarchy impossible.

            Almost a job description.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 2:10 am #

            I wouldn’t doubt it.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 2:15 am #

            Funny you should say that. In my youth I was PAID to make anarchy impossible.” ~ elysianfield

            “It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” ~ Upton Sinclair

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 2:37 am #

            A lot of people sell themselves and their humanity out. As I already wrote, if you have, you have company. Not the kind I’d be proud to keep.

          • elysianfield November 22, 2023 at 11:41 am #

            “A lot of people sell themselves and their humanity out. As I already wrote, if you have, you have company. Not the kind I’d be proud to keep.”

            Sooo…you equate “humanity” with anarchy, with survival of the fittest”? Humanity is the absolute opposite of your sanitized, utopian, and obviously shallow as-defined “anarchy”

            I have seen and experienced anarchy, and you have not . It is something like a vagina…you have to experience one yourself, rather than form opinions on second and third person accounts while playing video games in someone’s basement.

            Pride? What do you know of pride? Of what are you proud?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 23, 2023 at 4:59 pm #

            Anarchy’s for grownups, elystianfield.

  35. Why_weren't_we_asked_about_Degrowth November 20, 2023 at 6:37 pm #

    Jim, I agree with your timing. Nothing has been the same with this country since 9/11.

    Happy Thanksgiving to all

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    • OG November 20, 2023 at 7:05 pm #

      Three Manhattan skyscrapers collapsed at free-fall speeds as the direct result of the collisions of two airliners one day.

      Wait … what?

      I know, right?

      Gee … I wonder how a madman in a cave on the other side of the world defied mathematics.

      It’s like those buildings were pre-wired to collapse by Dick Cheney.

      Very similar.

      “Pull it.”
      – Larry Silverstein

      • OG November 20, 2023 at 10:25 pm #

        It is my belief that their plans went awry that Tuesday a week and a day after Labor Day in 2001. I think that something did go wrong with the flight that supposedly crashed outside of Shanksville, PA.

        I believe that that airliner was meant to be their “shock and awe” coup de grace. I believe that it was supposed to fly into Building 7 (after flying right over 1 & 2’s inexplicably minuscule rubble piles). Then it collapses and their black op is far more explainable (as opposed to trying to assert that 2=3).

        • OG November 20, 2023 at 10:47 pm #

          Thinking on the spot, they immediately announced that the high-jackers were targeting Washington (never New York) – like they’d even know what the high-jackers were up to if their bs stories were true!

          The CIA floor in Building #7 was loaded with key evidence that needed a mass-shredding. Without the flight, though, they were caught with their dicks in the wind. Thus, two equaled three on 9/11. We’re now into our 23rd year of people accepting that 2=3 that day (because, otherwise, their little brains would snap).

          But all will be revealed.

          Note: Similar evidence destruction was also the motive for OKC (1995) and Nashville (2020).

          • elysianfield November 21, 2023 at 2:39 am #

            You DO know that all the buildings in that complex shared a basement? About 7 stories deep.

            Shared foundation.

          • OG November 21, 2023 at 11:40 am #

            Of course. Each floor was an acre [!] of steel and concrete and office furniture and technology and urinals and staircases and …

            110 acres of it. Times 2! 220 acres of physical material.

            There should have been piles way higher (and not just neatly stacked into its own footprint).

            Worse still for the people who still believe Bush/Cheney and the CIA [in 2023!], inexhaustible and ridonkey-hot fires burned for weeks [!] in your zero-oxygen magic parkade.

            Tomorrow is the 60th anniversary of November 22, 1963 in Dallas. Sixty years and people are still walking around with 0- and 1-sized GLTs.

            It’s sad, really.
            – Dr. Evil

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 21, 2023 at 12:44 pm #

            …they were caught with their dicks in the wind.

            Not to play Q here, but interesting mixed metaphor here.

            I presume you meant “with their dicks in their hands”, or “pissing into the wind”.

            That said, it still kinda works. Just caught my eye, is all…

          • OG November 21, 2023 at 1:24 pm #

            You’re right. It is a mixed metaphor but one that is commonly used here in Sask.

          • elysianfield November 21, 2023 at 2:55 pm #

            “Of course. Each floor was an acre [!] of steel and concrete///”

            Yes, 220 acres of empty space, surrounded by structural walls, each with a center core of elevators.

            Soon to be dead observers, one on the 110th floor, noted that the ceiling was beginning to bulge inward, and observers on the ground noted that the 2nd tower was beginning to lean obviously, off plumb, before the collapse.

      • Groundhog November 21, 2023 at 3:32 am #

        “Gee … I wonder how a madman in a cave on the other side of the world defied mathematics.”

        Easy. The real God is Allah, and the cave madman was actually a man of God who had Allah’s support. Allah can do anything, including temporarily changing the laws of physics and math. Who are you to question Allah?

      • elysianfield November 21, 2023 at 11:41 am #

        You DO know that Silverstein did not own the towers?

        • OG November 21, 2023 at 12:28 pm #

          No. After hearing for over 20 years that Silverstein did own the WTC towers (and made out handsomely on the double-dipped insurance settlement), this is the first time that I have ever heard that one.

          1) Can you provide some sort of proof?
          2) If he did not own WTC, how did he collect on the insurance policies?
          3) If he did not own WTC, by what authority did he order, “Pull it” for the collapse of Building 7?

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 21, 2023 at 12:50 pm #

            OG –

            NY/NJ Port Authority leased the WTC buildings out to private management entities starting a few years prior (’98?). If I understand correctly, in essence, Silverstein was a developer who was managing the buildings for about six weeks prior to that Tuesday.

            That said, he apparently still got his “incaseshit” payout after the fact.

          • OG November 21, 2023 at 1:19 pm #

            Tomaytoe, tomahtoe.

          • OG November 21, 2023 at 1:22 pm #

            It sure did work our good for him though, eh? I mean, a developer takes over a developed property and then BINGO! it need developing again. After he said, “Pull it!” and cashed in for billions no less.

          • OG November 21, 2023 at 1:59 pm #

            Some guys have all the luck.

          • elysianfield November 21, 2023 at 2:49 pm #

            Just finished a book regarding the last recorded transmissions of people trapped in the building before the collapse. The Port Authority of New York owned the complex, and was instrumental in various safety measures, during construction, being ignored. Silverstein was the lease holder for the complex. His damages were based on lost revenue, etc.

  36. ZrCrypDiK November 20, 2023 at 7:43 pm #

    “If Israel wanted to do a genocide of Gazans, they’d have razed it decades ago.”

    Nah, they’ve “progressively” stolen Palestinian land ever since 1948, when they had something like 10-20% of the land. Now, they’ve gotten nearly 80-90% of the land in the “Israel map demarcation zone.”

    To get that last little bit ‘o land remaining, with millions of occupants, they needed something a bit more “subtle,” like instigating, infiltrating, funding, planting ideas, kicking back/standing down and watching the “terrorism” occur. Only then, is a ten-fold/order-of-magnitude retribution not only justified, but supported by the “demarcation zone” monitors of planet Earth.

    Borders, indeed!

    “What followed that wondrous enormity was … ”

    Police State Big Brother massive surveillance AI.

    “Somehow, we have managed to become our old enemy, the Soviets.”

    We have become our own worst enemy, much like the deep state 3-letter-acronym clubs. They abuse loopholes to monitor OTHER THAN foreign “terrorists” – yet their own unmonitored ranks contain their threat/downfall…

    “Americans live on pizza, chips and soda.”

    That’s the diet I like to call “fast food/junk food/processed food/sweets”. $5 meals are appealingly cheap, so fast food 2-3 times a day, 7 days a week – supplemented, of course. American culture simply seems to consist of fast food grubbin’, cell phone junkin’, and gasohol guzzlin’. Suburbia sprawl, strip mall, asphalt concrete desert wasteland. 7 deadly sins, ya know. Not much can be done, when the population quadrupled in the last 80 years, and consumption per capita went up *ORDERS* of magnitude… Ecocide extinction, just can’t stop killing off every last bit of life left on the planet.

    (OK done – Trump Derangement Syndrome [no, not the members of *HIS* cult – no, NO!])

  37. KesaAnna November 20, 2023 at 8:15 pm #

    ” I won’t legally break into your house – ”

    Hmm , how about an example closer to home ? A more American or Western European example ?

    No significant number of CFN regulars would be worried about digital ID , implanted brain chips , JFK or 911 conspiracy theories ,

    Unless —

    — They are all fucking retards.

    — They are all fucking crazy .

    — That threshold has already been crossed.

    All bets are already off.

  38. Islander November 20, 2023 at 9:06 pm #

    Who the hell is Peachy Keenan?

    His words are a word salad

    I guess ol’ Arab expert Peachy thinks “two-way genocide” is a more desirable product than the one-way color way.


    This blog is becoming increasing irrelevant with every passing post.


    • OG November 20, 2023 at 9:19 pm #

      This blog is becoming increasing irrelevant with every passing post.

      Irony, anyone?

    • Jarek November 20, 2023 at 9:26 pm #

      He’s not going to invade – Islander, saying Putin wasn’t going to invade some hours before he invaded.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle November 20, 2023 at 10:10 pm #

      Disaffected and MaryQueen aren’t missing much. LOL

      • OG November 20, 2023 at 10:31 pm #

        Dis is missed here. Big-time.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle November 23, 2023 at 4:32 pm #

          Understood, but not MaryQueen?

  39. Jarek November 20, 2023 at 9:37 pm #

    Wiki, Sam Francis

    Thought and legacy
    Francis’s term “anarcho-tyranny” refers to armed dictatorship without rule of law,[22] or a Hegelian synthesis when the state tyrannically or oppressively regulates citizens’ lives yet is unable or unwilling to enforce fundamental protective law.[23][24] Commentators have invoked the term in reference to situations when governments focus on weapon confiscation instead of stopping looters.[22][25] On Francis’s death, the Rockford Institute magazine Chronicles dedicated its April 2005 issue to his memory and the concept.[26][third-party source needed] Francis had a significant influence on the paleoconservative movement.[27]

    Francis argued that the conservative movement was made of “beautiful losers”, being either “rootless men” attracted to archaic things or crypto-liberals who sometimes resist progressive change before eventually caving in. He argued that the political right kept losing because it was too focused on ideas and less on power. According to Francis, the political left has dominated politics due to the ascendancy of a progressive managerial class, leading to more bureaucratization and more state power while eroding the power of other authorities in society. To combat the emergence of this new class, Francis argued that the political right needed a base for its goals, this base being the white middle class or “Middle American radicals.” In order to capture this base for the political right, Francis argued in favor of emphasizing “crime, educational collapse, the erosion of their economic status, and the calculated subversion of their social, cultural, and national identity” to create a class identity for this group.[27]

    Writing in The Week, commentator Michael Brendan Dougherty wrote that Francis’s writings, and his rejection of movement conservatism, presaged the 2016 election of Donald Trump.[8] In September 2017, New York Times columnist David Brooks wrote: “The only time I saw Sam Francis face-to-face — in The Washington Times cafeteria sometime in the late 1980s or early 1990s — I thought he was a crank, but it’s clear now that he was at that moment becoming one of the most prescient writers of the past 50 years. There’s very little Donald Trump has done or said that Francis didn’t champion a quarter century ago.”[28] In 2023, historian Joshua Tait said that “Before a Trump-inspired resurgence in interest in Francis, he was a cautionary tale from conservative intellectual history.”[29]

    Two Republican candidates in the 2022 electoral cycle, Blake Masters and Joe Kent, have promoted Francis’ writings.[12]

    Although Francis sometimes engaged with Christian thinkers and publications during his life, he was also harshly critical of Christianity in his later years and his worldview has been described as irreligious and materialistic. Francis wrote that “Christianity today is the enemy of the West and the race that created it” and suggested that the “religious wrong” operated under a “false consciousness” that prevented white Christians from recognizing their true interests. Because of this, he has been cited as part of a trend toward increasingly “secular, even pagan” ideas among certain segments of the American radical right.[30][31]

    Jarek: He was obviously influences by James Burnham.

    Q didn’t bother to scroll down a few “yards” in football terminology.

    I’m disenchanted by Christianity as well in terms of its negative influence on the psyche of Western Man at the popular level. Sure, it’s bene hijacked but by its very nature it’s very hijackable being a universal religion – of “love” no less.

    Islam is a universal religion of force and Will.

    Buddhism as well – of Wisdom. Teachers are encouraged to spread it, but are forbidden to use charisma or emotion to do so. Only Wisdom.

    They can and do use their charisma with their own followers of course, urging them to greater and deeper practice.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle November 20, 2023 at 10:27 pm #

      I am stuffed.

      I just had some cheesecake I baked after not having baked a one in many years, maybe close to 10.

      My inner Zen master is now scolding me that I ate too much and that I should now go out on my bike, across the bay’s bridge and to the other end of town and plant that garlic I’ve been meaning to plant. At 11:30 pm. Or I have trouble sleeping and only have less garlic shooting up in the spring.

      Is Anarcho tyranny an oxymoron? I will check your answer when I get back. While I’m out, feel free to help yourself to some cheesecake.

      • elysianfield November 21, 2023 at 2:33 am #

        …Cross the bay bridge to…where? San Francisco? Oakland? Berkley?

        I planted all my garlic several weeks ago.

        • ZrCrypDiK November 21, 2023 at 8:47 am #

          I’ve left my garlic orphan to perennial plots – no harvest so multiple bulbs in the same place. Placeholder, to be sure, in case of emergency. I’ve focused more on pruning the blueberries, blackberries, raspberries, apples, pears, plums, cherries, grapes and ??? Tripptix! Bocking 14 comfrey *EVERYWHERE*

          Bay Arian? Remember that guy? I don’t think he rode a bike – I think it was a $100k gas hog 2 decades ago, to be sure.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 21, 2023 at 9:42 pm #

            How well would garlic bulbs grow if left unharvested over a couple of seasons? Would it be worth more leaving at least some in over a season or more?

          • ZrCrypDiK November 22, 2023 at 1:18 am #

            There’s always a harvest – but very small bulbs. The greens grow weedy, so chives, ya know 😉

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 2:42 am #

            Thanks. I already have chives, but maybe weedy garlic is better than my chives.

      • BackRowHeckler November 21, 2023 at 4:39 am #

        Zaz I think I did find a culture that rather successfully operated on anarchistic & egalitarian principles, that is the Cossackes in the lands between the Dneiper & Volga rivers — the Russian Steppe — in the 14th & 15th century. They had no real government but would meet yearly, literally forming circles to make decisions where everyone had a say. Usually however, the decisions came down to “Who do we raid this summer, Muscovy, Warsaw, or Iran?” Eventually they raided all three, and many more.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle November 21, 2023 at 8:53 pm #

          Depends on how enlightened your/the culture is.

          But I have already agreed that it is a bit of a paradox or dilemma. Given that we nevertheless exist despite a universe that seems hell-bent on paradox, this one would seem surmountable.

          It will not be surmountable to everyone or every group everywhere though, but it doesn’t have to be, especially where there is more geographical isolation in the future, post-collapse.

          Anarchists can stand up for themselves and they can network. It’s about survival of the fittest, with ‘fit’ not necessarily meaning health, but fit meaning having the capacity to enhance one’s survival. This can mean having the capacity to network and stick to ethics. Again, not for everyone.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle November 21, 2023 at 9:25 pm #

          Aeons To Where?

          I will add something to that and that is an elaboration of survival of the fittest…

          If we keep collapsing our societies– and we appear good at it, just take a look at history– then it’s possible that we go extinct. Mull that one over a bit.

          That said, then, anarchy– mutual ethics, equity & consent– may be our only hope. Before you put thought to CFN, mull that one over too.

          If you don’t as a whole/group/species treat your fellow humans well, you are more likely to treat nature in similar ways. This will likely cascade over time until there is little or nothing left, including you as a species.

          Again, think about it before you put thought to CFN, and risk angering me in the process. 😉

          Think about how your group’s negative modus operandi, if copied to more or all groups, will likely inevitably echo that kind of modus operandi against the rest of the planet and its other creatures until there is little if anything worth anything left of what you held so dear. Or maybe you never did, self-loathing/hate and all that.

          Think of how animals are already treated in labs and factory farms and how people’s hard earned labor is stolen in the form of taxes and profits for the crony-capitalists.

          Think also how sometimes, if not often, the effects of what we do now are only obvious over significant lengths of time– over generations even– so as to be less connectable to preceding acts.

          The ball is in our hands. We can drop it or run with it. Up to us if we think we have free will.

          But as I’ve also already said, extinction is the rule rather than the exception. So if you want to be nihilist about it, if that’s the right concept, it’s your right and maybe your group’s or even species’.

          (If you watch, the cool guys tattooed/dancing in the video are Maori [NZ] I think.)


          “I was born to see two thousand years
          Of man’s effect upon the planet
          Extinction seems to be a plausible risk
          Whatever happens, well I’m part of all this…


          Fire burn all our uncertainties
          Water wash away impurities
          Contradictions and predictions abound
          Yes I believe that we can turn it around…”


    • Soul Forensics November 21, 2023 at 1:32 am #

      That’s a pretty fair overview and contemporary assessment of three of the four major religions, and an on-point criticism of the naivete of current Conservatives.

  40. Jarek November 20, 2023 at 9:44 pm #

    The Summarizer

    James Burnham’s book, “The Managerial Revolution: What is Happening in the World” published in 1941, posits that capitalism has lost its control and is being displaced by the rule of administrators in business and government. Burnham argues that this revolution is as broad as the world and as comprehensive as human society.023 He rejected Marxism and became an influential theorist of the right as a leader of the American conservative movement.0 Burnham was an editor and a regular contributor to William F. Buckley’s conservative magazine National Review on a variety of topics. He rejected containment of the Soviet Union and called for the rollback of communism worldwide. Burnham’s seminal work was included in Life magazine’s list of the 100 outstanding books of 1924–1944.1

    Jarek: Capitalism has transcended itself as it takes absolute control. Competition is a sin after all. Burnham transcended himself as well, starting off as a Trotskyite before becoming an enemy of Communism. A true salik or “traveler”. Compare this to our resident Marxist ladies who have believed this garbage their entire lives. They won’t admit it, seeming to know that it’s indefensible at this point. But they can’t let it go either.

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    • ZrCrypDiK November 21, 2023 at 8:58 am #

      Capitalist Consumer Commercial Economy! Try living somewhere without rentiers or property tax (usury vig – debt peonage). You may get away with it for a few years…

      • The Man They Call Zazelle November 21, 2023 at 11:32 pm #

        It can take awhile, like generations, but when you have an invasive species– let’s say rentiers living by some shmucks’ rules they call ‘laws’ as if they’re somehow universal and immutable like the laws of physics or something, nature will– not might, will– and speaking of laws, but the real ones– find a way, or ways, to ‘manage’ ‘It’…

        In the process(es), ‘It’ may find itself ‘managed’ by the business end of Mom Nature’s extinction gun, or, if lucky, yet another civ collapse, taking everyone, the rentiers and the kitchen sink, down with it.

        And anarchists like myself don’t have to raise a bloody finger. Why? because Mom Nature is the only real authority, that’s why.

        Caveat rentier.

        • ZrCrypDiK November 22, 2023 at 1:27 am #

          Non Sequitor!!! Ad Hominem!!! I dig this reply – that AI does work – kinda (still can’t find the song I’ve been seeking).

          And yes, I get your point. We can change the rules of exponential population growth/exponential consumption, and and all the depletion/pollution/destruction associated!!! What – consequences? What plastic islands the size of Texas (hehe 15 year old data).

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 2:57 am #

            You mean plastic islands are bigger than the size of Texas if it’s 15 year old data? How about relocating Israel to one of them?

  41. anmariwakaranai November 20, 2023 at 10:26 pm #

    Just saw another one of my many nieces. Looked like a stroke, but it’s bells palsy.

    • anmariwakaranai November 20, 2023 at 10:44 pm #

      Let the (family), carnage continue…

      • GreenAlba November 21, 2023 at 11:39 am #

        Sorry to hear it, anmari. Your family seem to be disproportionately affected.

        • anmariwakaranai November 21, 2023 at 1:36 pm #

          Thanks Alba. We must have won the lottery. Let me tell you though, friends have commented on my having a sense of humour still, when I use your ‘carnage’. 🙂

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 21, 2023 at 9:33 pm #

            Is carnage good in a salad?

          • GreenAlba November 23, 2023 at 11:54 am #

            I wasn’t aware that ‘carnage’ wasn’t used everywhere.

            I believe it is your country, though, which spawned the horror who used to head the Bank of England, Mark Carnage, as he is sometimes not-so-affectionately referred to. 🙂

          • GreenAlba November 23, 2023 at 11:55 am #

            “Is carnage good in a salad?”

            Presumably not if you’re a vegetarian.

  42. anmariwakaranai November 20, 2023 at 10:28 pm #

    More than 200 Muslim men in Gaza have converted to Christianity after reportedly seeing Jesus in their dreams, said Christian professor Michael Licona.

    Reported on spiritdaily

    • anmariwakaranai November 20, 2023 at 10:29 pm #

      Don’t forget gaza didn’t get the juice. No pun intended,.

      • anmariwakaranai November 20, 2023 at 10:31 pm #

        They all had the same dream on the same night.

        • anmariwakaranai November 20, 2023 at 10:39 pm #

          More than 200 Muslim men in Gaza have converted to Christianity after reportedly seeing Jesus in their dreams, said Christian professor Michael Licona.

          Licona teaches New Testament studies at Houston Christian University and has also written a number of books, including “The Case for the Resurrection of Jesus” and “Paul Meets Muhammad.”

          In a recent Facebook post, Licona said he received a report from “underground Christian ministries” in the Middle East that detailed the miraculous conversions.

          “Over the past two days, we have ministered to hundreds of fathers who have lost most, if not all, of their children in the war. As we moved these men to safety, we fed them, washed their clothes, and began to read the Bible to them — sharing the way of peace through Jesus.

          “Then, a big miracle happened. Last night, Jesus appeared to more than 200 of them in their dreams! They have come back to us to learn more from God’s Word and are asking how to follow Jesus,” the report said.

          Licona then voiced his own stance on the Israel-Hamas

          “I side with Israel in this war; not necessarily for theological reasons but because Hamas and those backing it are pure evil,” Licona said.

          “Yet, I know that not all Palestinians support Hamas. In fact, they will be punished severely if even suspected of not supporting Hamas. Let’s pray that this war can be over soon and that Israel can eradicate Hamas so that Palestinians can be free … of Hamas!”

          This isn’t the first report of such dreams affecting Muslims.

          About a month before the Oct. 7 Hamas terrorist attack, Assemblies of God News reported that Muslims around the world were dreaming of Jesus and converting to Christianity at an unprecedented rate.

          “I would even say it’s the normal experience,” said Dick Brogden, a missionary for the Assemblies of God, a Pentecostal Christian organization. “It would be accurate to say that Muslims are responding to Jesus in levels we have never seen, not in 1,400 years!”

          Brogden also noted the importance of dreams for evangelism.

          “Dreams are contributing to revelation … the process of evangelism and conversion,” Brogden said.

          “So many Muslims reject Islam, but know that to follow Jesus will cost them everything. Dreams of Jesus encourage them along the way and give them the comfort that Jesus will be with them — though it cost them everything to follow Him.”

          From the western journal.

  43. Night Owl November 21, 2023 at 4:26 am #

    “Speaking at the WEF, Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel, admits to having prior knowledge in 2019 that there would be a ‘pandemic’ in 2020.

    ‘Moderna had made 100,000 doses in 2019, for the whole year. And I remember walking, after Davos, into the office of my head of manufacturing and […]'”



  44. Mister Roboto November 21, 2023 at 5:34 am #

    Sorry to hear about your cranberry sauce turning out badly, JHK. Such a thing probably wouldn’t happen in my home state of Wisconsin, which is pretty much cranberry-central for the entire North American continent.

    • gustafson.robert.22 November 21, 2023 at 8:21 am #

      Cranberries, the gateway fruit to palate maturity.

      • GreenAlba November 21, 2023 at 9:21 am #

        Dried ones in my Christmas pudding are as far as I’m going to go! Also, people drink cranberry juice for its magical properties in getting rid of cystitis.

        • cowbell81 November 21, 2023 at 12:06 pm #

          It is also good for your urinary tract, or so I hear. Personally, I enjoy mixing it with straight-up vodka, Russian of course.

          • Soul Forensics November 21, 2023 at 3:14 pm #

            I love tart tasting fruits. Raspberries are one of my fave foods. But cranberries? The texture of axle grease mixed with blood.

          • gustafson.robert.22 November 21, 2023 at 5:01 pm #

            But, ah, raspberries are to tartness what Twisted Tea is to hard liquor, jus’ sayin’..

          • Soul Forensics November 21, 2023 at 5:32 pm #


            So you go for the hardcore tarts.

            (I’m here all week. Tip your waitress, etc.)

          • gustafson.robert.22 November 22, 2023 at 12:04 am #


    • BackRowHeckler November 21, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

      Meanwhile, in W Hartford, Ct, the restaurant G-Monkey, which opened a few years ago with great fanfare, announced it is closing.

      “Everything in our menu is plant based, including our burgers, steaks & chops.”

      IOW a vegetarian restaurant set amidst an industrial area (including Colt Firearms) that is now largely Hispanic. Probably not the best place to sell veggie burgers & fruit drinks.

      EVs are piling up on dealer’s lots, seaborne ‘Windfarm’ projects are being cancelled, solar panels companies are being sued for hawking a worthless technology; the whole 21st century lefty corporate wet dream is melting down.

      But not totally. It was was just announced 99 units of ‘Affordable Housing’ is being built on a beautiful stretch of meadow where the train station used to be. This will be Section 8, a state funded project; market forces do not apply. It’s a lovely area that in the past esteemed urban residents had to travel a bit to get to for burglaries, car thefts, & home invasions. These projects will save them a trip as now they’ll be right in the neighborhood.

      • gustafson.robert.22 November 21, 2023 at 2:49 pm #

        The WEF better get things in gear if they want a depopulated, plant-based, bug-based, carbon-free world.

      • stelmosfire November 21, 2023 at 6:13 pm #

        I saw my first Rivian SUV today.I can count on my fingers the Teslas’s I’ve seen. The Ev’s really don’t seem to be catching on around here. I love me me some American V8 juice. My truck gets 5-6 mpg while working. Last year my work truck clocked 850 miles. There is no replacement for displacement when the pedal says “Work me you sumbitch.”

      • ZrCrypDiK November 22, 2023 at 1:44 am #

        I *KNOW* , why did they have to be so “progressive” ?!? Nutters, it’s all really been over since about 1920/1940 – when the population was only 2 billion. It’s 8.5 billion now?!? Oh yeah, and consumption per capita – did it only go up 2 orders of magnitude in the past 80 years – or *3*.

        Yeah, I could see us 2 in the same cafe, eating grubbins, heh!

  45. docmartin November 21, 2023 at 10:55 am #

    Would love to see the regular gang here put in a bar for one night. After a few friendly drinks I’m sure the fireworks would start. The only concern would be sufficient ventilation as the hot gases emanating from all of their behinds could possibly cause an explosion not seen since Vesuvius…. Mr K would have to be in a cage so the sharks don’t devour him (a full pat down at the door of course including body cavities would be done prior to entrance)…. I’m up for a pay per view on the event.

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    • OG November 21, 2023 at 11:26 am #

      I believe that some fine day, you will have your wish, doc. Of course many here will be missing and suffering with a very different reality. And it won’t be a bar. And there won’t be alcohol served.

      Many people here on CFN are discerning. Our Lord instructed us to have discernment. I know that that’s what I’m doing here. I seek the truth.

      So do many others. We’re trying to fulfill our mandate from God. We understand that this realm is try-outs and we’re trying to make the team on Judgement Day.

      Thanks to anmari for the report of 200 Muslims converting to Christianity en masse after receiving Jesus Christ of Nazareth in a dream.

      The Four Horsemen have finished breakfast and are walking to the stables.

      • anmariwakaranai November 21, 2023 at 1:43 pm #

        It is good news, eh?

        • OG November 21, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

          Truly inspiring.

    • elysianfield November 21, 2023 at 11:31 am #

      Your description of the event rivals the elegance of your shoes….

    • BackRowHeckler November 21, 2023 at 2:20 pm #

      Doc maybe next summer Jim could host an afternoon cookout & get together at his compound on the Hudson River. Pay per View? Sure. Altho it might be pretty boring because this would be a well behaved & conservative crowd. But who knows maybe somebody like OG or SSL might have one ‘Genesee Ale’ (brewed in NYS) too many & get a little crazy.

      • GreenAlba November 21, 2023 at 5:52 pm #

        It’s OK, brh, we’re all coming over to yours for some of that orange & vodka cocktail. Late summer, when it’s not too hot for palefaces like myself. 🙂

  46. cowbell81 November 21, 2023 at 12:01 pm #

    The tradition of celebrating Thanksgiving on the fourth Thursday of November dates back to 1941 when President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed a bill into law that established the fourth Thursday of November as the official date for Thanksgiving Day 12. The law was passed to provide a longer holiday shopping season and to boost the economy during the Great Depression.

    So you see, it was never really about the tradition of giving thanks, it was merely all for economic reasons, and in many ways it still is.

    • OG November 21, 2023 at 12:15 pm #

      And, a couple weeks after the fourth Thursday of 1941, FDR acted like he was completely surprised that they Japanese had bombed Pearl Harbour (Dec. 7).

      “Right out of the blue, I tells ya.”

    • SoftStarLight November 21, 2023 at 3:02 pm #

      But I thought the first Thanksgiving happened when the Pilgrims and Indians had like a communal feast to celebrate the harvest and basically it continued since that point.?

      • Uncle Bob November 21, 2023 at 9:54 pm #

        Nope. Lincoln revived the tradition during the War of Northern Aggression/War of Southern Secession.

  47. SoftStarLight November 21, 2023 at 12:07 pm #

    Thank you for the Thanksgiving well wishes, Mr. K. I hope you have a great Thanksgiving. I too am thankful for a lot of things and am hopeful for nice things to come even in the midst of the swirling vortex of craziness and malcontent. Fyi, just consider giving that turkey amnesty lol 🙂

    • cowbell81 November 21, 2023 at 12:38 pm #

      Happy Turkey Day to you SSL as well. I will give thanks for having gotten to know you better over the years here at CFN. And that goes for many of my other compatriots here as well. A rising tide lifts all boats, so thank you one and all!

      • SoftStarLight November 21, 2023 at 2:49 pm #

        Thank you CB and same to you too! I hope you have a nice Turkey Day and I’m thankful that we have been able to converse here and get to know one another as well. I hope everybody’s boats are lifted too!

    • BackRowHeckler November 21, 2023 at 2:07 pm #

      Ford Lightning EV pickup sales are off 86% quarter to quarter, which is good news for the Ford Motor Company because for every unit they sell they lose $62,000. With any kind of accessories the Lightning goes for about $75,000. To break even Ford would have to charge $137,000 for the vehicle. JUST TO BREAK EVEN.

      You’ll need a 30 year mortgage to get one; think they’ll sell many?

      • SoftStarLight November 21, 2023 at 2:53 pm #

        Ok, well I won’t be shopping for an EV pickup anytime soon so won’t need to worry about that. I hope you haven’t gotten into that trap BRH, but I seriously doubt you have. Happy Thanksgiving to you!! Don’t do too many shots lol 😉

        • BackRowHeckler November 21, 2023 at 3:29 pm #

          Thank you SSL. And a happy Thanksgiving to you as well.

          Nah, I’ll be holding onto my 2008 Silverado, has 100,000 miles on it & is still in pretty good shape. I paid only $27,000 for it brand new.

          SSL, I imagine in La. you have your Thanksgiving turkey, but also special ‘Southern’ side dishes like Buttermilk Cornbread, Smokey Collard Greens, & Sweet Potato Pie. Am I correct on this?

          Also I’m on the Wagon (for health reasons)

          • ZrCrypDiK November 21, 2023 at 6:00 pm #

            Off the wagon? Heh, I never understood that. Alcohol is an antiseptic – correct? Colds/Flues – they’re not all viral – and maybe even viral can’t survive 0.04% – hehe! (0.08% legal limit national?)

            FWIW, I never understood the hardcore alcoholics – I knew a girl 120lbs soaking wet who drank 3 fifths a day – I can barely get past half a fifth, and then the next day is *WASTED* .

          • SoftStarLight November 21, 2023 at 6:10 pm #

            Good, you are practical and reasonable and prudent, BRH. Lol you are correct on some of those BRH, well all, but Thanksgiving round these parts typically include a ham too, dirty rice, green bean casserole, sweet potato casserole, corn bread dressing, deviled eggs, yams and pecan pie for your sweet tooth lol.

      • ZrCrypDiK November 21, 2023 at 5:27 pm #

        Ford issues sound like the slave labor in China is rippin’ them a new @$$hole. Domestic cars aren’t really domestic manufactured, in any sense of that *word* . Ever since about 1980 and Honda/Toyota, was there really any reason to PAY MORE for LOWER QUALITY GUZZLERS?

        • ZrCrypDiK November 21, 2023 at 5:38 pm #

          I do have to give some credit to Chrysler/Dodge (Ram) and their 2500/3500 series trucks. Total workhorses. Makes sum sense to haul large loads…

  48. Jarek November 21, 2023 at 1:24 pm #

    The Husband Store

    A brand new store has just opened in New York City that sells husbands. When women go to choose a husband, they must abide by the following instructions:

    “You may visit this store only once. There are six floors and the attributes of the men increase as the shopper ascends the flights. There is, however, a catch. You may choose any man from a particular floor, or you may choose to go up to the next floor, but you cannot go back down except to exit the building!”

    So, a woman goes to “The Husband Store” to find a husband.

    On the first floor the sign on the door reads:

    Floor 1 – These men have jobs, and love kids.

    The second floor sign reads:

    Floor 2 – These men have jobs, love kids, and love God.

    The third floor sign reads:

    Floor 3 – These men have jobs, love kids, love God, and are extremely good looking.

    “Wow,” she thinks, but feels compelled to keep going. She goes to the fourth floor and the sign reads:

    Floor 4 – These men have jobs, love kids, love God, are drop-dead gorgeous and help with the housework.

    “Oh, mercy me!” she exclaims. “I can hardly believe it!” Still, she goes to the fifth floor and the sign reads:

    Floor 5 – These men have jobs, love kids, love God, are drop-dead gorgeous, help with the housework, and have a strong romantic streak.

    She is so tempted to stay, but she goes to the sixth floor and the sign reads:

    Floor 6 – You are visitor 4,363,012 to this floor. There are no men on this floor. This floor exists solely as proof that women are impossible to please. Thank you for shopping at the Husband Store. Good-bye.

    Jarek: One sex is obsessed by advancing by means of the other sex. They don’t want to “be less than they can be” by choosing an inferior vehicle. So they refuse to settle and often end up alone. Or as time runs out (the sands of our lives), they desperately choose someone inferior to one that they passed up years ago to check the floors higher up. Thus they will cheat on him when the opportunity arises, hoping to get a better deal even if they can’t go back into the high end store again. Then they will divorce the first sucker and take as much as they can get. It was just a starter marriage anyway. Her friends will respect her more. And then she can be with the new and better model, perhaps doing the same to him in a few years.

    • Slugoon November 21, 2023 at 1:40 pm #

      I think the same could be said about the wife store.

      • Jarek November 21, 2023 at 2:27 pm #


        To avoid gender bias charges, the owner of The Husband Store also opens a new store across the street called “The Wife Store.”

        The 1st floor has wives that love sex.

        The 2nd floor has wives that love sex and have money.

        The 3rd through 6th floors have never been visited.

        Jarek: Well that’s funny in the self deprecatory way men are supposed to adopt.
        But wise men look for good character, love of kids, and love of god. Some of them even care about the women loving them, lol.

        So you’re right but also wrong. You see men don’t advance by means of the other like women do. They’d be far more likely to “settle” for someone than women. They have no interest in a woman’s success. A girl could be working at McDonald’s and catch an executive’s eye and end up his wife.

        Does the same apply in reverse? Think about it.

        • OG November 21, 2023 at 2:38 pm #

          A girl could be working at McDonald’s and catch an executive’s eye and end up his wife. Does the same apply in reverse?

          Good point.

        • GreenAlba November 21, 2023 at 3:13 pm #

          “They have no interest in a woman’s success. A girl could be working at McDonald’s and catch an executive’s eye and end up his wife.”

          There’s a group of people I’d never heard of until a few years ago called ‘the Edinburgh Set’. I expect I’m not the only one to have never heard of them. A friend told me about them because she had a friend who married one of them (and then turned quite unpleasant). They marry people like themselves, who went to the same private schools and the same ‘good’ universities. Another friend knew some of them from her work (one of the Big Four accountancy/consultancy firms). She was privy to emails her boss sent and received – one was a bunch of them arranging a boat trip in the Med, with ‘plenty of pussy’ provided, according to the email.

          That’s how they worked it. Nice, fragrant wife at home and fun away. I reckoned those women were a lot less free than me. If they wanted to leave the pig for his piggish behaviour, their kids might not get to stay at their posh school.

          Never, at any point in my life, would I have ever wanted to even know such people (although the feeling would obviously be mutual).

          “A girl could be working at McDonald’s and catch an executive’s eye and end up his wife.”

          Sounds like Love, Actually, rather than real life to me, sorry. She might end up a temporary mistress, though, or a one-night stand.

          A work friend of mine was upset one time because some male acquaintance told her that no business man who works away from home is faithful to his wife. Her husband worked away at that time and she refused to believe what the other guy said was true. Who knows what the numbers are? I know my late kid brother had to work away for a few years and I’d bet everything I own that he’d never have cheated on his wife, but they’re certainly not all like that.

          Rose-coloured specs look silly on anyone, of either sex.

          • ZrCrypDiK November 21, 2023 at 3:48 pm #

            Edinburgh! I love the Scottish pronunciation. I know there’s a weird tower there, constructed around 1850 (I believe I walked under it)… Oh, and the ramparts from 1300?!?

            Yeah, prolly not best to meet your future wife at a bar or a fast food joint… Just sayin’

            Rose colored specs have a unique light filtration that enhances – heh!!! Yeah, I wore a “pair” in ’83…

          • Night Owl November 21, 2023 at 4:05 pm #

            This sort of thing definitely goes on all of the time amongst the jetsetting set.

            At my previous employer, there were endless required and semi-required events at the firm’s private hotel in the Alps, and the business trips were constant and full of opportunity for anyone choosing to travel often.

            Interoffice affairs were everywhere, and the high-level demons were fed a steady supply of supple 24-year-old European women every year. I recall that one individual always requested that his secretaries have specific physical attributes (was told this by an HR drone).

            I never partook, as I am as loyal as they come to my friends and family, but this stuff is quite common in the circles GA describes.

        • ZrCrypDiK November 21, 2023 at 4:11 pm #

          I know I think I got off at the first floor 0.0 – F* their money!!!

    • SoftStarLight November 21, 2023 at 2:58 pm #

      Well, i’m not planning on being stuck at an empty department store with mannequins for Thanksgiving. If Mr. Right isn’t by my side for the day, then that is his fault. Wherever he is.

      • SoftStarLight November 21, 2023 at 3:06 pm #

        Lol makes me chuckle thinking to myself about Mr. Big. Remember him? Carrie didn’t have to go to a store to meet him. They literally bumped into each other on a street.

        • ZrCrypDiK November 21, 2023 at 3:35 pm #

          Mr Big == Big Brother? Oh, you’re talkin’ “SEX&CITY” – that wife of Matthew “WarGames” Broderbund (heh) and the hottie from “Big Trouble in Little China…” (and yes, I could go on about that nerdy grl heh)

          Mr Potato Head!!! BACK-DOOR. Would you like to play a game (thermo-nuclear war)?

          • SoftStarLight November 21, 2023 at 6:02 pm #

            Is this a reference to the Saw Series, CrypDik? That one was gory as all get out but fun to some degree in certain instances. Mr Potato head lol, wasn’t that thing called Billy the Puppet?

    • Soul Forensics November 21, 2023 at 3:08 pm #

      I read this a while ago. As the old saying goes, it’s funny ‘cuz it’s true (in large part).

      For women, there’s a straight line link between the Men Store and shopping in general. Women love to have ‘improvements’ in their lives, to the point of trivial detail, like getting their men to shift furniture around for several hours every few months because they get dissatisfied with the same ol’ living room arrangement. Or they’ll acquire useless and trivial gewgaws or the latest unnecessary electronic gadget that ‘saves time’ or ‘looks cute’, according to the well-paid sales team on the boob tube that tells them they need it. Then there’re the ads for dish-washing detergent and soap. This one is ‘new and improved’. All marketed to women, who do the vast majority of the shopping.

      Inflation going up? Basic foodstuffs getting more expensive? Gas? Add-on taxes more numerous? Take out another card if you must, but I need that floodlit Christmas manger scene since Cindy got a similar one next door.

      • ZrCrypDiK November 21, 2023 at 3:40 pm #

        That wasn’t too misogynistic!!! Whoa – yeah put them back in their place – cooking/cleaning, no property rights, no right to vote (abortion?!?)…

      • Night Owl November 21, 2023 at 4:09 pm #

        I must be the only one with a wife who is nothing like this.

        She would probably divorce me if I bought her some expensive bauble or wasted our money on pointless shite.

        • Soul Forensics November 21, 2023 at 4:30 pm #

          My wife is guilty, but she’s also generous with money as well (charities with good causes; helping out others), so it’s a complex subject.

          • Night Owl November 21, 2023 at 5:07 pm #

            Well, life is all about balance.

            I should have mentioned that my wife is far better than me.

            Although were she to take an interest in, say, nice guitars, I would not complain.

          • stelmosfire November 21, 2023 at 6:48 pm #

            NO, right. I’ve been married 40 years last month. My Wife likes to cook and is good at it. I fix shit and grow shit and am good at it. We click most of the time. Symbiotic relationship, perhaps. Guitars?, Tools ?,Motorcycles? I’ve got more than enough, but how many is enough? She understands. I have the man disease.

          • OG November 21, 2023 at 8:00 pm #

            It’s not a disease, elmo. It’s your nature.

          • Night Owl November 22, 2023 at 10:33 am #

            You are doing it right, Stelmo.

  49. OG November 21, 2023 at 1:50 pm #

    Au cracked $2k/oz. again today. It got as high as $2008 but has nestled with a current ask of $1999.

    China and Russia do not buy ETF paper-gold. They take delivery of physical gold. You should to, imho.

  50. socialisthater November 21, 2023 at 2:31 pm #

    JHK would likely still characterize himself as an “old school liberal,” but, since about 1950, liberalism has been in a full slide toward plain ol’ brutal, genocidal, freedom-hating, dictatorship-loving Socialism–the only nuance being whether it is Fascist/Socialism or Communist Socialism. Modern “liberalism” in America is now a toxic ideological combination of both. Conservatives have said for decades–and were pilloried for it incessantly–that the slide from liberalism into Socialism was always the ultimate plan of the left. The conservatives were correct. The reason is simple–liberalism and leftism go against all the laws of nature. Liberalism and leftism can only succeed by giving the government sufficient police power to force people to do what they otherwise would not do voluntarily, under threat of imprisonment or violence for non-compliance. And such power can only be effective if it is broad and and all-consuming–none of which is possible in a functioning Constitutional Republic. So, the first step toward achieving such total power is to destroy the Republic. And that is exactly what Biden the Puppet President and his evil Socialist handlers are doing.

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    • Mike Sherman November 21, 2023 at 6:19 pm #

      Talk about ass-about-face, here…

      “liberalism has been in a full slide toward plain ol’ brutal, genocidal, freedom-hating, dictatorship-loving Socialism–the only nuance being whether it is Fascist/Socialism…

      The only fascist I can see anywhere on the US political horizon is your Dear Leader, Donald J Drumpf, and his horde of demented White Christian Nationalist destroyers who are, from within Congress, attempting, nay planning, to destroy this Republic – undermining everything that is solid and reliable. The likes of Mike Johnson really scare me and leave me truly concerned about where this whole shit-show will end up in November-December 2024.

      I have no doubt that the electorate will reject the fascist wave but it’s already been proven that 70% of Republicans (! 70%!) still actually believe that the 2020 election was rigged and that Drumpf actually won. This is a clear sign of failing intellectual ability on the part of these ‘conservatives’.


      • JohnAZ November 21, 2023 at 8:13 pm #

        One thing you are right about. It is a shit show led by Biden and the Mob.

        People like you just do not seem to understand. People like you are why we are where we are. The Left, the open border big government, neocon crowd have been in control of the Deep State now since Reagan left office in 88. Do not even try to ring up the Bushes, they were open border big control government types just as much.

        Trump spent his entire administration trying to defend himself from a city full of jackanapes. So not much got accomplished at

        I do not care any longer about the stolen election. We will never know the answer. Nothing has been done since to prevent the theft, maybe this time the conservatives will be the thieves.

        One day, when you are a lot wiser, you will realize that the people that you have backed all these years have stolen you blind and created a government that have stolen your liberty.

        Until then—-

        • JohnAZ November 21, 2023 at 8:14 pm #

          And Good Lord, do not use a rag like the Washington Post to justify your comments.

        • OG November 21, 2023 at 8:49 pm #

          Ronnie Raygun was merely an actor, a front-man. Poppy Bush really ran the Reagan Administration so you should go back to the Carter Administration, imho. If Carter was too left for you, then you are looking at Nixon-Ford.

          Of course we all know that the coup d’état was 60 years ago tomorrow (ending the Kennedy Administration).

          I do not care any longer about the stolen election. We will never know the answer.

          I believe that you are wrong, JAZ. I believe that we will be shown the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

          • OG November 21, 2023 at 8:55 pm #

            Hint: watermarked ballots & the US Space Force.

        • Mike Sherman November 21, 2023 at 9:26 pm #

          “So not much got accomplished “

          Huh? Because he was ‘defending’ himself?

          Was that what he was doing with all his ‘executive time’ which was code for watching Fox, and all the golf outings (including the Secret Service contingent that was CHARGED over-the-odd rates by Trump Org at his various resorts)?

          JohnAZ, you do know (just as Drumpf himself knows) the election was not ‘stollen’ (he sure seems to like his cake, the fat asshole…) but clearly, such admissions cannot be made publically while you’re still sporting your MAGA golf cap and hanging with your buddies who all agree with you.

          As to WaPo, I’m surprised you didn’t go full MAGAt and allude to the journalists as ‘vermin’ and ‘enemies of the people’. So, kudos for that, at least.

          Overall, you continue to choose to remain stubbornly ignorant, roiling yourself in the BRICS conspiracy theory, claiming the vaccine is a bioweapon (how are you feeling these days, you vaccinated sadsack? Clearly, you’re still just fine – which I guess must mean they gave you a saline shot, right?).

          And all manner of things that indicate you have nothing better to do than promulgate utter bullshit. No doubt, there will be shrieks of pain when the MAGAT House Majority manages to slash your Social Security & Medicare. Let me know when you’ve finally figured out that you’ve been duped on virtually everything you hold dear.

        • benr November 22, 2023 at 10:43 am #


          One day when you are a lot wiser.
          Never happen.
          Look at the dribble he posts and appears to believe.

          • Q. Shtik November 22, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

            Look at the dribble he posts and appears to believe. – benr


            It’s drivel.

            I’ve covered this error many times before. I guess you missed it.

          • Jarek November 22, 2023 at 2:08 pm #

            The glass of milk begins to “inch” (millimeter) off of the edge of the counter; the edge of the glass no longer artfully aligns with the edge of the ledge.

            When Peter placed it thus, he was showing his spatial mastery.

  51. Soul Forensics November 21, 2023 at 3:35 pm #

    Dr. Bonnie Henry, the Health Officer of my province, B.C., is being sued in a class-action suit for her role and ‘leadership’ in deciding and implementing on jab requirements for gov’t workers during not just the initial stages of “Covid”, but to this day.

    She has even admitted, in writing, that she didn’t have a choice but to carry out the provincial government’s wishes, otherwise she’d be “skating on thin ice”.

    I’m under no illusions she’ll be fined, let alone lose her job or, as should happen, end up in jail. But hopefully she at least loses a few nights of sleep.

    • SoftStarLight November 21, 2023 at 6:15 pm #

      Ah yes, the “doing what you’re told” schtick. No amnesty no forgetting no forgiveness no mercy. Now go give thanks! 🙂

      • OG November 21, 2023 at 6:32 pm #

        Canadian Thanksgiving is in October. We beat the rush.

        • SoftStarLight November 21, 2023 at 6:43 pm #

          Hey OG. I feel like we haven’t chatted in years. Did you have a nice Thanksgiving? I hope so! Look at y’all. Always ahead of the times 🙂

          • OG November 21, 2023 at 7:58 pm #

            Hey SSL! It’s always nice to chat with you. Your feminity is so beautiful.

            We did have nice Thanksgiving up here in the Great White North, thanks.

            Being an NFL-watcher, I of course also enjoy US Thanksgiving. 3 straight pro football games on the tube. Now that’s a good Thursday in my books!

          • SoftStarLight November 22, 2023 at 4:04 pm #

            I’m glad y’all did have a good Thanksgiving, OG. Lol so you are looking forward to tomorrow then well that is good. Hopefully you can have a US type Thanksgiving dinner too. 🙂

    • OG November 21, 2023 at 6:36 pm #

      Of course, Vegas Turkey-Shoot Incident Commander [whatever the flip that is!], FBI grad and Maui PD Chief/Coroner John Pelletier’s troops that barricaded the residents from simple escape and, instead, into the kill zone at Lahaina 8/8 were following orders.

      Lest we forget.

      • stelmosfire November 21, 2023 at 6:53 pm #

        Lahaina 8/8 was an out of control, hurricane force wind driven, sum-bitch, fucked-up, mis-managed wildfire. Plain and simple. Tragic as it was it was just a total disaster.

        • Tweedledum November 21, 2023 at 7:31 pm #

          No Jewish space lasers, then? No DARPA/HAARP conspiracy? Aww..bummer! OG almost had me convinced.

          • OG November 21, 2023 at 7:51 pm #

            Right. Vegas Turkey-Shoot Incident Commander [whatever the flip that is!], FBI grad and Maui PD Chief/Coroner John Pelletier’s troops barricaded approx. 10,000 people with no escape … but it was all just a giant mistake at the top and “following orders” at the bottom. And then those approx. 10,000 Lahaina citizens turned into 99 dead and approx. 9,901 that … well, never mind.

            So … John Pelletier is … what? The unluckiest guy on earth? The luckiest guy on earth? Which is it?

            And … wanna buy a bridge?

          • stelmosfire November 21, 2023 at 8:14 pm #

            OG, John Pelletier (1681-1704) was a gilder. Trained in gesso. Very talented.

          • OG November 21, 2023 at 8:38 pm #

            Different John Pelletier, Elmo. The “man” that I speak of is very much alive:

            Pelletier was a Las Vegas police captain when a gunman with military-style rifles opened fire from the windows of a Las Vegas Strip high-rise hotel into a crowd of 22,000 attending an outdoor country music festival. The violence shook the city to its core, like the wildfire has done in Maui.

            What is your GLT score, Elmo?

            Wanna buy a bridge?

  52. chimayred November 21, 2023 at 4:18 pm #

    I regard Jhk as an absolutely brilliant writer, and appreciate his perspective.

    However, certain things just confuse me.

    I do think things are going to continue to get bad, but it seems like I may live in a different country. There are no bread lines around here. I don’t know where the people are getting money for their cars and gas, but they seem to be doing OK. Maybe it’s because they are all two breadwinners. My wife bought a turkey that was 21 pounds yesterday, it was fresh and it was $22. A buck a pound for turkey isn’t too bad so I’m not so sure how many people are going to be starving, or foregoing Thanksgiving this year. I still get almost everything I order online from groceries to tools to distractions in a timely manner. Gas is currently about $3.13 at its lowest. My homeowners and auto insurance tried to jack up my premium by $2000. I was able to find an alternative namebrand company that actually saved me nearly 2500. No doubt there’s an apocalypse coming but I’m not sure it’s arrived yet.

    • ZrCrypDiK November 21, 2023 at 4:36 pm #

      Cheap gas here is $4.20, but I haven’t bought any for a year. Who else can say that? I get by on 1.5 gallons each year (4 yard mows and an occasional rototill). I know, I shouldn’t be rototilling – but I got a compost PHARM here…

      I know, things become difficult skateboarding/rollerblading/bicycling over 8 miles – suburbia sprawl!!!

      • BackRowHeckler November 21, 2023 at 4:47 pm #

        What do you do in the sleet, snow, frigid cold etc?

        • ZrCrypDiK November 21, 2023 at 11:56 pm #

          snowblow? I know my parents used to have one of those – like a lawnmower, only it gobbles snow… It came in handy 40 years ago in the midwest – last 2 decades, not so much.

      • cowbell81 November 21, 2023 at 5:03 pm #

        That boggles the mind. 1.5 gallons a year? What are you, Amish? I honestly don’t see how this is possible. I still enjoy travelling throughout the US countryside, so I suck up more than my fair share of refined petrol products.

        You should also include the petrol that is used in your use of plastics when computing your carbon footprint.

        • ZrCrypDiK November 22, 2023 at 12:15 am #

          You want to hear the pathetic part? Oh, of course you do! I haven’t used my motorcycle in over 5 years – it’s sitting idle in the garage – licensed, registered, and insured. Even when I used it, I barely drove 300 miles in a year – Ayup, 6 gallons of gasohol – I whuz guzzlin’!!!

          I decided early 90’s to stop self-serve gasohol guzzlin. Lord knows I tried and failed…

          Ayup, plastic islands in the Pacific/Atlantic oceans, and filling the guts of dead sea life washed ashore. Acidic and hotter too, that ocean (I’ve heard).

      • SoftStarLight November 21, 2023 at 6:12 pm #

        Lol, this one is funny. Just doing a little browsing lol. Why do you always have to push my buttons?

      • stelmosfire November 21, 2023 at 6:15 pm #

        My bicycle has wooden wheels and tires.

        • stelmosfire November 21, 2023 at 8:20 pm #

          ZrCrypDiK, “Cheap gas here is $4.20.”

          I paid $2.89/ gal just this afternoon. Very cheap in a historical perspective. $2.89 for a gallon of energy that is equal to 600 man hours. 15 men working 40 hours a week for less than 3 bucks. It boggles the mind.

          • ZrCrypDiK November 21, 2023 at 11:59 pm #

            Yeah a gallon of gas is like 19K calories. 20x manhours? Where it pays off is in large loads – not a 3 block trip to the corner store!

  53. ZrCrypDiK November 21, 2023 at 6:32 pm #

    The Banksters and the Rentiers take their usury vig! What ever happened to Max Kieser? I remember an episode where JHK was on his RT program.

    • ZrCrypDiK November 24, 2023 at 5:17 am #

      OK, that’s some messed up crickets going on there. Maybe that episode never happened? (Or we all want to forget it?)

  54. OG November 21, 2023 at 8:33 pm #

    Elmo, I asked you a long time ago and I watched for your response but I never saw one. So, my apologies if you did reply but I missed it earlier.

    In the yt video that you pointed me to (where downed power lines caused unwanted fire), the vegetation was always the first fuel to ignite and to be consumed. Always. This, of course, matched (pardon the pun) every other fire that I have ever seen or heard of … except for Paradise, CA and Lahaina, HI.

    Why, do you think, that aluminum (1700F) and even auto glass (2500F) melted while palm leaves remained unscorched in Paradise and in Lahaina?

    Also, do you believe that a 5-mile 12′ high blackout fence should have been John Pelletier’s top priority immediately following the inferno?

    Do you believe, as he claimed, that it would keep the dust in?

    If so, did the dust pile up at the foot of this fence like snow-fencing in a Saskatchewan winter?

    Also, if that were true, why did they guard this fence from the outside? [One can’t really “guard” dust in wind, right?]

    And, finally, wanna buy a bridge?

    • Uncle Bob November 21, 2023 at 9:58 pm #

      Bodyguards protect the wealthy and “important” dust in the wind, as well as their interests.

      Same old song
      Just a drop of water
      In an endless sea
      All we do
      Crumbles to the ground,
      Though we refuse to see

      Dust in the wind
      All we are is dust in the wind

      • ZrCrypDiK November 22, 2023 at 12:02 am #

        I know – OK – a Kansas fan! I do hate DUST tho, but I can play it on the GUI-tar. Belexes (and that drum solo) !

    • stelmosfire November 22, 2023 at 8:53 am #

      OG, basic physics. A leave is probably 70-80% water. Before the leaf can burn all that water has to be turned into steam. That requires a lot of energy. Fill a paper cup half full with water. Light it on fire. Does the cup burn? sure it does until it gets to the waterline. take the same cup and fill it all the way. you can boil water in it. To convert water to steam takes a huge amount of energy. A watched pot never boils.


      Good fences make good neighbors.

      • BackRowHeckler November 22, 2023 at 1:03 pm #

        “To convert water to steam takes a huge amount of energy,”-Stelmo

        And there-in lies the crux of the problem, boiling water, creating steam, spinning turbines inside magnets to create electricity. We are being led to believe that turbines powered by steam is no longer necessary to create reliable and plentiful electrical power, that we have been doing it wrong since the days of George Westinghouse & Thomas Edison.

        Thus the ‘Transition to Renewables’ initiative, an attempt to provide a steady supply of energy to a nation of 340 million people with wind turbines & solar panels.

        • stelmosfire November 22, 2023 at 5:10 pm #

          Steam powers the world.Giant steam plants power NYC or Yakustk, RU at 70 below F.. Nuclear submarines or aircraft carriers. All powered by steam turbines. just a method of moving one sort of energy to a different location. Local university has a huge steam plant with a 150 ft. stack for natural draft. Burns either oil or NG depending on market prices. 150 year old tech. What’s old is new again. I heat with a 120 YO cast iron steam coal boiler
          ( converted to oil). I really love the hissing radiators and the warm towels, gloves, and boots they provide.

        • BackRowHeckler November 22, 2023 at 6:07 pm #

          Recently read a student editorial in the Yale newspaper; apparently Yale uses two natgas fueled generators to power up and heat its campus. In that way the University is quite independent from United Illuminating, the coastal Ct power company. The editorialist DEMANDED that the two units be SHUT DOWN IMMEDIATELY! Shut down to eliminate Yale’s carbon footprint! No question about how to keep the lights on and the buildings heated during New Haven’s frigid winters.

          Just shut it down!

  55. GreenAlba November 21, 2023 at 10:19 pm #

    Even if this issue is receding from the foreground of general interest …


    … you’ll be relieved to know that some Indian researchers have found no evidence of sudden deaths being caused by the covid ‘vaccines’.

    Seems it’s all because of binge-drinking and excessive exercise among young people.

    So there you have it. Oh, and the punchline:

    ‘Brought to you by er … Reuters (in case anyone has forgotten, they’re the ones whose CEO sits on the board of Pfizer).

    File under: D for Desperate.

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    • ZrCrypDiK November 22, 2023 at 12:47 am #

      Weren’t *BILLIONS* of people inoculated back in spring 2020? We should have known by now if there was a *PROBLEM* … Ecocide extinction – yeah, that’s a real problem. Invasive species/monocultures. Plague and Pestilence!!! Rats and mice, to be sure (until they’re *NOT* ).

      • GreenAlba November 22, 2023 at 5:34 am #

        “We should have known by now if there was a *PROBLEM* ”

        Indeed we should, but you have left massive, draconian, globally co-ordinated censorship out of the equation. And you forget that covid was just Part 1 of the operation.

      • JohnAZ November 22, 2023 at 11:04 am #

        A change occurred in the Feds with Covid. All of a sudden, it was okay for a vaxx to kill people, up til then, like swine flu, vaccines were not put out that killed people. VAERS showed the fatal adverse effects almost immediately.

        42000 folks got the vaxx during the test phase and very few people had bad effects with no deaths?


        • GreenAlba November 22, 2023 at 11:54 am #

          In any case, John, it is now known that the stuff they pretended to test in the ‘clnical trials’ wasn’t the same as what was given to the public.

          Sasha Latypova is good on this stuff. The test phase was just theatre – since the operation was being carried out as ‘countermeasures’ by the DoD (not ‘medicine’ for a public health event), there was no requirement (or indeed possibility) of genuine clinical trials.

          This was confirmed during the failed lawsuit brought by Brook Jackson against Pfizer for fraud (in the trials). Pfizer’s defence was that they were not guilty of fraud because they were carrying out the fraud at the behest of the government. The judge accepted that and let them off. But, nobody is taking out a lawsuit against the DoD – good luck with that!

          • Mike Sherman November 22, 2023 at 8:31 pm #

            GA – I see you’re still in the land of the living, despite your vaccinated status. Looks like you’re going to see another Christmas, despite your heartfelt fears.

          • GreenAlba November 22, 2023 at 8:42 pm #

            There’s no justice, is there, Majella?

            When I quit the company I worked for, a few years ago, there were 9 of my colleagues left. Out of those nine, two died of turbocancers and (in one case) organ failure after a cancer operation, within weeks of one another earlier this year.

            So two turbocancers and five heart attacks (4 fatal) plus my husband diagnosed with POTS (a bit of a desperate ‘diagnosis’ since the cardio didn’t know what to make of it).

            And I’m still here, because there’s no knowing which batch contains what. But I might not be here tomorrow. Them’s the breaks. Same as for you. Enjoy each day, just in case.

          • GreenAlba November 22, 2023 at 8:52 pm #

            I notice you didn’t comment on Sasha Latypova’s investigations. She’s one smart lady. In the circumstances, I’m not surprised you limited yourself to fluff.

        • Jarek November 22, 2023 at 2:02 pm #

          Brigadier General Hope Rampy (!) sent out a letter to try and get soldiers who were thrown out of the military because of refusing the jab, back into uniform.

          The utter chutzpah of it! They even made a recruitment video featuring White men recently. Few are fooled. It’s like the Zimbabweans trying to entice White farmers back. For what? To be murdered in their beds?

  56. The Man They Call Zazelle November 22, 2023 at 7:35 am #

    Argentina: Closer To Anarchy?

    “The global economy, and more importantly, the entire world as we know it, is about to undergo a seismic shift toward freedom. In this article, I wanted to lay out why I believe this to be, how it will happen, and why I think this week may have marked step one of a long journey in the right direction.

    That journey eventually ends in the dethroning of the likes of globalists, with the head of that snake represented by the likes of Klaus Schwab, central banks, and the lobotomized far left maniacs that have lobbied for ‘Great Reset’ that eventually results in the loss of one or more (read: all) of our civil liberties and our current quality of life.

    By now you probably know that Javier Milei, an outspoken and eccentric libertarian, has won Argentina’s presidency after promising to aggressively tackle inflation, shutter the country’s central bank, end woke culture and significantly reduce government.” ~ QTR’s Fringe Finance, Substack.com

    “In the mid-19th century, libertarianism originated as a form of left-wing politics such as anti-authoritarian and anti-state socialists like anarchists, especially social anarchists, but more generally libertarian communists/Marxists and libertarian socialists. These libertarians sought to abolish capitalism and private ownership of the means of production, or else to restrict their purview or effects to usufruct property norms, in favor of common or cooperative ownership and management, viewing private property as a barrier to freedom and liberty. While all libertarians support some level of individual rights, left-libertarians differ by supporting an egalitarian redistribution of natural resources. Left-libertarian ideologies include anarchist schools of thought, alongside many other anti-paternalist and New Left schools of thought centered around economic egalitarianism as well as geolibertarianism, green politics, market-oriented left-libertarianism and the Steiner–Vallentyne school.” ~ Wikipedia

  57. Islander November 22, 2023 at 9:43 am #

    I wonder whether any of the Brainy Ones here have noticed a very close parallel between the actual events of Jan. 6 and Oct. 7 and the “reception” of those events by putatively pearl-clutching politicians and pundits. Including our ever-less-esteemed (by me) Jewish supremacist host.

    “Putatively,” because the pearl-clutching is a sloppy, fairly obvious drama-queen performance (the outrage! the outrage! quick, my smelling salts) meant to exaggerate, misdirect, and to quash any intelligent or penetrating discussion of the actual state of affairs and create a legal circus that spews an unending tsunami of dust into the eyes and onto the air waves.

    In both cases, as the truth has emerged the amateur drama queens have failed to adjust their performances to fit the increasingly well-understood actual facts of the events.

    The most recent performative puncture operation was carried out by Ehud Barak, here:


    Christiane Amanpour was at a loss for words, tee hee! Enjoy.

    • benr November 22, 2023 at 10:38 am #

      Two-way street plenty of other posters have commented negatively on your opinions and views.
      No one forces you to read his musings nor read ours.

      The truth is Hamas is a murderous ISLAMIC DEATH CULT and the sooner they are put down like rabid dogs the better the world will be.

      The rest of the opinions and musing about Oct 7 don’t really matter because they are literally opinions.
      Go read the charter of Hamas they intend on carrying this out.
      At least our Mexicans are not shooting rockets into San Diego!

      • OG November 22, 2023 at 12:13 pm #

        Hamas is a Mossad/CIA/MI6 black op.

        You Americans are so naive!
        – Steve Martin

        our Mexicans”


        “are not shooting rockets into San Diego!”

        Adding: “yet.”

        • benr November 23, 2023 at 9:43 am #


          Not a shred of it just another claim from random fools on the internet.
          It makes more sense that these groups would claim Hamas is part of a black op because they declaw it and remove some people from wanting to be part of the disgusting bowel movement it really is.
          Islamic conquest is what it’s about.
          The fact tiny Israel exists ON LAND THAT WAS HISTORICALLY jEWISH LAND is a poke in the eye to Muslims everywhere for how powerless and weak they really are.

          • OG November 23, 2023 at 11:28 am #

            Here’s the first bit of proof:

            By way of deception, thou shalt do war.
            – Mossad credo

            It is common knowledge that Hamas was started by Israel as a controlled opposition to Yasir Arrafat’s PLO. I was unaware that anyone questioned that reality. I will be sure to point to more proof for you as I continue to stumble across the truth, benr.

      • Islander November 22, 2023 at 5:52 pm #

        “Two-way street plenty of other posters have commented negatively on your opinions and views.”

        Oy vey!

        Now I need smelling salts!

        As for night-time reading, try this:

        If you wish to have some background music while doing so, here:


        Such sweet little girls!!

        • benr November 23, 2023 at 9:45 am #

          The other side is indoctrinated from cradle to grave in hate as well.
          So what?
          Have you not been paying attention to what they also say about white people?
          More Communist bullshit.

  58. BackRowHeckler November 22, 2023 at 10:01 am #

    Sleet in the forecast today.

    5 months from now I’ll be writing “Sleet in the forecast today.”

    It’s going to be a long dark winter, in more ways than one.

    • JohnAZ November 22, 2023 at 10:56 am #

      Chin up , BRH, you might be in Europe.

  59. tom clark November 22, 2023 at 10:19 am #

    We live in a fantasy world, a world of illusion. The great task in life is to find reality. –Iris Murdoch

    • OG November 22, 2023 at 12:07 pm #

      Sometimes, I can’t help the feeling that I’m
      Living a life of illusion
      And oh, why can’t we let it be
      And see through the hole in this wall of confusion
      I just can’t help the feeling, I’m living a life of illusion

      Pow! Right between the eyes
      Oh, how nature loves her little surprises
      Wow, it all seems so logical now
      It’s just one of her better disguises
      And it comes with no warning, nature loves her little surprises
      Continual crisis

      Hey, don’t you know it’s a waste of your day
      Caught up in endless solutions
      That have no meaning
      Just another hunch
      Based upon jumping conclusions
      Caught up in endless solutions
      Backed up against a wall of confusion
      Living a life of illusion

      – Joe Walsh

      First track of Side 2 (starts at 18:20).


    • Soul Forensics November 22, 2023 at 1:52 pm #

      tom quotes a great philosopher and novelist.

      OG counters, once again, with inelegant rock lyrics from a song everyone has heard many times.

      • OG November 22, 2023 at 3:18 pm #

        Ya I do. And seven people listened to the song, you whiny little puke.

        • Soul Forensics November 22, 2023 at 3:52 pm #

          Hey everyone, take my Wince-Inducing Litmus Test (WILT).

          Score one point for every “yes”. 0s and 1s fail the test, but 9s and 10s pass, and are defined as in the test name.

          Do you:

          1) brag about your life as an ex-stockbroker on Bay Street?

          2) brag about your exploits and talents as a hockey beer leaguer?

          3) brag about your gorgeous girlfriend?

          4) whine, for the multiple-thousandth time, about your evil ex-wife and ex-wife’s lawyers?

          5) promote gold for the thousandth time in the hopes that a possible but pathetically small (one? two?) number of new recruits will drive the price up on your investment?

          6) copy-and-paste the same message re Lahaina and the GLiT ad nauseum, as if no one here has already read (or scrolled on by) it a few thousand times?

          7) see apocalypse in every international incident, all stirring up God, so that all who haven’t made peace with this ever-loving Deity will be scorched in Hell for all eternity starting any day now?

          8) plan to post your self-flattering, lying autobiography as a (no doubt) never-ending personal grrrrl power diary?

          9) constantly show yourself as just another banal philistine, albeit one much more unstable than most?

          10) crave plaudits with such desperation because you don’t get any in real life, including from your own conscience?

          • OG November 22, 2023 at 9:36 pm #

            That’s not a sociological test, SF. It appears that you are just targeting me with this bogus “test” of yours.


            1) I was never a stock broker and have never claimed to be. Rather, I designed, maintained and ran Data Acquisition & Publishing Systems in the Equity Research Department at BMO Capital Markets in Toronto for 22 years. Bay Street runs Canada’s capital and I rubbed elbows with the Big Boys.

            2) I believe that I said that I played awful hockey – very rusty after not playing for 7.5 years. My second outing (Monday) resulted in 0G & 0A as their goalie robbed me with his left pad on two separate occasions. My point was not to brag about my play in old-timers beer-league hockey. My point was that I have become involved in an excellent exercise regime as I approach 59 years of age.

            3) Marina is a beautiful woman. She is not “gorgeous.” Also, this is taken completely out of context as I told of Marina recently after KA mistakenly said that I cannot get “pussy.” I was merely correcting her for the record.

            4) You forgot my crooked lawyers. Ontario Family Law is an extortion racket. Sad but true.

            5) Gold and silver are money. These past 52 years of fiat petro-dollar is the anomaly. I advise CFNers to take delivery of physical gold and physical silver as I truly believe that that is in their best interest. I thought it a given that CFNers are completely irrelevant in the global supply/demand of gold and silver. D’uh!

            6) My constant refining of the GLT (I recently added the Apollo Moon Missions) is the method that one deploys to develop a sociological test. And we get new readers here all the time. In fact, the last time I posted the GLT, it was for the benefit of a new reader who asked what the GLT is.

            7) You got me there. Every international incident is, in fact, part of His Word being fulfilled and those that have not gotten right with God will regret it for eternity in Hell being Satan’s plaything. You malign me for trying to save souls for His Majesty? Shame on you.

            8) I do not lie here. Why would I? To what gain? What have I lied about? If I were to lie, I’d make up something better than I attained $2.5mm net worth by age 50 but then had most of it extorted from me. That’d be a lame lie, right? Also, I already told you: I am testosterone-driven. There is absolutely no doubt about that. I’ll whack you with a hockey stick rather than some gay grrrl thing that you seem so familiar with.

            9) This one isn’t even written for the subject of your test. Whether true or false, it is for others to weigh-in, not the subject himself. You are not very good at this, SF.

            10) I don’t crave plaudits. Rather, I calls ’em as I sees ’em. If I craved plaudits here on CFN I would not, for example, regularly point out how Americans often have their collective heads up their collective butts, right? One does not attain craved plaudits by calling his audience to task (which I do constantly).

            Don’t fret, SF. Even the prestigious GLT was not perfect upon its unveiling. Keep working at it – you may be on to something.

            You whiny, pompous, blowhardy little puke.

        • OG November 23, 2023 at 12:42 am #

          Now 11 people have listened to my A/V production of Joe Walsh’s There Goes the Neighbourhood.

          Actually, the album artwork is kinda eerily Gazan, right?

  60. Night Owl November 22, 2023 at 10:32 am #

    “If you make a mistake in a controlled demolition, the top of the building will topple over and fall away from the rest.

    But if you fly an airplane into it, the top will topple over… then crush the rest like a jackhammer. ?

    That’s the official 9/11 story: a joke.”


    I love this guy.

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    • JohnAZ November 22, 2023 at 10:48 am #

      Yeah, topple over? The videos I have seen say the buildings collapsed straight down, at the time someone said it was the design, the way the stories fit together and that any breakdown anywhere in the structure the whole thing goes kaput.

      I remember thinking, if that is the case, WTF? Design a building that falls apart with a defect in one part? Insanity.

      I will guarantee you on thing, Osama had the information about that weakness if it existed, so did the Feds.

      Could it be?

      Kennedy, by the word of George Giananni, Sam’s brother, was assassinated by the Mafia under contract by the CIA representing the Deep State at the time.

      How about the same group, obviously capable of anything, setting up the Osama group with the access to all the resources they needed to pull it off.

      Another question. How about all the people in the planes that obviously died. Where was the follow-up on them? Faux funerals? I do not remember anything addressing them.

      Yesterday, someone asked a very astute question. Where was all the debris after the collapse? Was the design of these buildings so flimsy that there was no missing debris?

      Under designed? Looks like everyone might have known. Maybe that is why they were a target in ‘93 as well as 2001. That time they tried a bomb in the basement.

      • JohnAZ November 22, 2023 at 10:55 am #

        I do not think the plane was big enough to cut through the entire floors that were hit. The after pictures showed the outline of the plane in the intact, at the time, side of the building, so no topple over. It also impressed me how big the buildings were, wider than the plane’s wingspan.

        I guess I am thinking that these two buildings were a choice target for whoever lit the fuse.

        • Night Owl November 22, 2023 at 2:27 pm #

          He didn’t say they toppled over; he said they should have given what the Feds claimed happened.

          Instead they fell in near perfect free fall, each floor being pulverized to dust by the explosives planted inside by the perpetrators.

          No plane brought down either of the main towers, and WTC 7 wasn’t touched by anything other than a few bits of debris.

          9/11 was the greatest lie ever perpetuated on the public in modern history, until the magic virus that spread around the entire world in two months and that no one has even isolated, of course.

          • benr November 23, 2023 at 9:55 am #

            Tower 7 had a huge chunk of a corner knocked completely off.
            To say it was mostly untouched is a lie and it also caught fire and burned.

            I love a good conspiracy theory as much as the next guy but the best that anyone can actually prove is the government was aware of the attack and allowed it to happen.
            Same with Pearl harbor, the USS Maine and God only knows how many other things to push policy one way or the other.

          • elysianfield November 23, 2023 at 11:33 am #

            My God, Owl…say it ain’t so….

      • Watcher November 22, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

        The debris sublimated into “dust”. Including steel. There is still a video on the utube of this transmutation in action. What turns steel into dust? What causes heat in the sub-basement that melts boots of onsite workers 12 weeks after the event? Why was there melted bedrock? These are questions never reconciled.

        Why were highly elevated and correlating amounts of strontium and barium (fission products) found all over the city in the days after the event?

        Where did the debris go? Into the air. Then people got sick. Many persons subsequently developed cancers, especially thyroid. Interesting.

        • Night Owl November 22, 2023 at 3:04 pm #

          Indeed. You will not get answers on this from John. He believes Covid was real and three buildings collapsed in perfect freefall right into their own footprints–into mounds of dust and a river of molten steel underground.

          All normal. They even found terrorist passports in the lava, you see.

          I am convinced.

          • stelmosfire November 22, 2023 at 6:45 pm #

            I don’t know one way or the other. Strange shit happens. If I take a 100,000 ton weight (35 floors of concrete an steel) and drop it strait down on a light weight steel building frame will it flatten into a pancake? I know if I take my size 16 boot and stomp on a beer can which can contain 100 psi design internal pressure that thing will crush into an aluminum slug 1/8 ” thick.

          • OG November 22, 2023 at 8:43 pm #


          • Night Owl November 23, 2023 at 5:56 am #

            Well, Stelmo, all I can say is that the amount of evidence compiled to date is overwhelming for me.

            For the first time in history, three large buildings were brought down by “fire” all on the same day. And all collapsed in near perfect freefall (impossible without a demolition) into their own footprints, with largely dust remaining.

            Much as with Covid, I am amazed at how easy it is to fool the public. Though Covid was a bit easier since no one can see it, and stats can be manipulated far more easily than physical matter.

  61. JohnAZ November 22, 2023 at 11:20 am #

    People are critical of JHK predictions, 2024 soon to come.

    Everyone seems to expect a catastrophic step function. A collapse over a very short time.

    Not going to happen!

    The inertia of the economy makes the downfall of it occur slowly, people adjust to slight changes. People do not like making waves or making major changes. People will deny that things are worsening, going into debt on the hope that things will get better in the future. Debt used to be frowned on in this country as well as charity.

    Now debt and the welfare state is totally accepted by the society and its government. Inflation is accepted as desirable by half the country

    TLE predicted significant change by the end of the century. Look at the changes since 2000, we are on track.

    • Rooftop Observer November 22, 2023 at 4:11 pm #

      How’s THIS for ‘major changes’?

      “Yesterday the United Auto Workers ratified their new contracts with General Motors, Ford, and Stellantis. The new contracts include wage increases of at least 25% over the next 4.5 years, cost of living increases, union coverage for electric battery plants, and the reopening of a closed plant. “These were just extraordinary wins, especially for those of us who’ve been studying strikes for decades,” Washington University labor expert Jake Rosenfeld told Jeanne Whalen of the Washington Post.
      Union president Shawn Fain told Rachel Maddow of MSNBC, “It’s a sign of the times…. In the last 40 years…working class people went backwards continually…. There’s this massive chasm between the billionaire class and the working class and…when those things get out of balance, we need to turn it upside down. When 26 billionaires have as much wealth as half of humanity, that’s a crisis….”

      Thank you, ‘commie unions’, huh? Real wages for real work, making real things in America, so a family can live with some dignity. You know, like the late-lamented 1950s so often yearned for by ‘conservatives’.

      Yet these same ‘conservatives’ will scream bloody blue murder about how the unions are parasitic or some such, while suffering the cognitive dissonance of not being able to see that it is the Capitalist owners who are the fucking parasites.

      • BackRowHeckler November 22, 2023 at 6:17 pm #

        UAW, building cars nobody can afford & EVs nobody wants.

      • JohnAZ November 22, 2023 at 7:51 pm #

        Spending 25% more for the same output of cars?


      • JohnAZ November 22, 2023 at 7:54 pm #

        Spending 25% more for the same output of cars?

        That is inflation, my liberal friend. Fiscal integrity is an unknown to your group. Spend, spend, spend, higher wages, more welfare, WTF, that is what is destroying the country now, lets just do more of it, maybe we can tear it apart faster.

  62. Deb November 22, 2023 at 1:03 pm #

    Kudos to you sir as always a reasoned voice in the din. I too remember times when I rode my bike ‘everywhere’, my beloved dog running along nearby. Playing kickball or watching 5adpoles in the creek at the bottom of my southern city street.

    Those memories are sometimes bittersweet as we know what kids now are missing. And though they don’t even know, we do and see the pain of their lacking. We know it was once possible but also fear it may never be again.

    Then again, I recently visited Japan and was astonished to find it was still so clean, so quiet, so peaceful even in its hurry. An incredibly kind and courteous people, and most ready to offer a smile and assistance to a stranger. It is really possible for humans to be civilized… Japan is proof. But it is an outlier, an island among evil hoards that surround like Israel if only Israel really were an apartheid state, it might be as sane. Instead its Arab population trashes it from within like a bum using found change on a broken whore. The ancient Shinto religion, the backbone of Japanese society, is surprisingly similar to Judaism. There is no doubt some ancient connection. Ancient, but for now at least, long lost.

    • Jarek November 22, 2023 at 1:37 pm #

      Ethnic homogeneity? The blood is the life! America was strong and peaceful to the extent it was White. Yes, Israel could attain the same if the Palis were gotten rid of. This may well be the goal, as a number of their Founders insisted upon. But they fear world opinion and losing their carefully crafted illusion of moral superiority. But if they don’t do it, the Muslims will outbreed them as they did the Serbians in Kosovo.

      And if they say to hell with world opinion and go ahead, will the Muslim nations let them get away with it?

      When asked the for the long term prospects of Israel, Nixon gave a thumbs down. All in all they should have taken Madagascar when it was offered to them.

      • BackRowHeckler November 22, 2023 at 2:31 pm #

        Madagacar was not a good faith offer. Madagascar already had tens of thousands of people living on it & European Jews had no history on the Island. In the period 1650-1720 Madagascar was part of the Pirate Rounds — Newport, RI~NYC~the Bahamas~Madascar — & a base used to raid Mogul ships in the Indian Ocean. Henry Avery, Captain Kidd & Thomas Tew operated out of Madagascar, to name just three.

        I think Israel will survive current events and emerge a stronger country. Hamas is being eliminated as I type this & I think some UN/ International force will be brought in to administer Gaza.

        • Jarek November 22, 2023 at 2:39 pm #

          The natives and pirates could have easily been dealt with. It’s huge. Israel is far too small for what they desire.

        • malthuss November 22, 2023 at 4:11 pm #

          this buddy………

          utube– VinFast Has An $86B Market Cap, But It’s Probably Worth Nothing

          • malthuss November 22, 2023 at 4:12 pm #



            We Drove the Worst Reviewed Car in America

      • Islander November 22, 2023 at 5:59 pm #

        Or Uganda.
        Also, there is a very large province waiting for them and them alone in the RF.

        No one would bother them there.

        But instead they will head to Argentina when the going gets rough and ruin that country.

        • BackRowHeckler November 22, 2023 at 6:22 pm #

          Well, Israel has been to Uganda, in 1977 Israeli Special Forces rescuing their people at Entebbe airport.

    • Soul Forensics November 22, 2023 at 2:01 pm #

      It’s easy to be kind to a stranger. Not so much when you live with someone for years, or when involved in complex personal, business or political issues with different races and cultures.

      I forget the poster here who lived in Japan, and did business with them for years, but he has a much less rosy view of the contemporary Japanese.

    • Jarek November 22, 2023 at 2:04 pm #

      Be careful to entertain strangers lest ye entertain angels unaware.

      The stranger! All the tens of millions pouring over our border are “the” stranger, not a horde of locusts, got it?

    • elysianfield November 23, 2023 at 11:29 am #

      “Instead its Arab population trashes it from within like a bum using found change on a broken whore”

      Sounds like an original construct.

      • elysianfield November 23, 2023 at 4:10 pm #

        …And has texture. Nice.

  63. Jarek November 22, 2023 at 1:47 pm #

    Wiki for consilience

    In science and history, consilience (also convergence of evidence or concordance of evidence) is the principle that evidence from independent, unrelated sources can “converge” on strong conclusions. That is, when multiple sources of evidence are in agreement, the conclusion can be very strong even when none of the individual sources of evidence is significantly so on its own. Most established scientific knowledge is supported by a convergence of evidence: if not, the evidence is comparatively weak, and there will probably not be a strong scientific consensus.

    The principle is based on unity of knowledge; measuring the same result by several different methods should lead to the same answer. For example, it should not matter whether one measures distances within the Giza pyramid complex by laser rangefinding, by satellite imaging, or with a meter stick – in all three cases, the answer should be approximately the same. For the same reason, different dating methods in geochronology should concur, a result in chemistry should not contradict a result in geology, etc.

    The word consilience was originally coined as the phrase “consilience of inductions” by William Whewell (consilience refers to a “jumping together” of knowledge).[1][2] The word comes from Latin com- “together” and -siliens “jumping” (as in resilience).[3]

    Jarek: The evidence for Black intellectual inferiority is overwhelming: Formal testing, grades, cultural achievements, etc. The evidence for their equality is non-existent.

    The evidence that Jews control the Capstone is strong, but more hypothetical I admit. They control banking, American foreign policy, and media. Who else would control it? The Satanists come out from among all nations and religions, some Jewish and others not? But the basis of attainment being most stringent and having nothing to do with ethnicity, nor the commands issuing from the Capstone as well.

    Thus Orthodox Jews may attain the fulfillment of their Prophecies in a physical sense, yet still be woefully dissatisfied.

    • Jarek November 22, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

      Can we create a verb form here? As in, The data seemed to consile of its own accord to create the new paradigm.

      • Soul Forensics November 22, 2023 at 2:11 pm #

        I don’t think a verb is needed. Perhaps it would make the point more dramatically, but your sentence can be made grammatically simple with, “The consilience of the data created a new paradigm.”

        • Soul Forensics November 22, 2023 at 2:25 pm #

          Also, I prefer the word “synergy”, which can be adapted from more abstract means, as in the initial example above. More powerful, since the cumulative effect is exponential.

          • Jarek November 22, 2023 at 2:42 pm #

            Too new agey. Inventors and Artists often feel like they have received. The data arranges itself. Or it is given from “above”. The passivity of consile is thus perfect.

          • OG November 22, 2023 at 3:34 pm #


            cumulative: increasing or increased in quantity, degree, or force by successive additions.

            Cumulative is not exponential by definition, you pompous blowhard.

          • Soul Forensics November 22, 2023 at 4:22 pm #

            “Cumulative” can be both additive AND exponential, you simpleton.

          • OG November 22, 2023 at 4:52 pm #

            Nope. In cumulative, one accumulates. It is, as the very definition that I copied and provided (from Google), addition.

            Cumulative is additional and NOT exponential – end of story, you whiny little puke pompous blowhard.

            We all know that.

          • Soul Forensics November 22, 2023 at 5:02 pm #

            Accumulation can be either exponential or not, depending on what’s being accumulated. For instance, in law, circumstantial evidence, in isolation, is usually not condemnatory. But 9,000 separate pieces of circumstantial evidence, as was the case in the Robert Blake murder trial, is additive (obviously), but also exponential, because many of those isolated bits of evidence also overlapped, therefore adding a compounding effect to each piece.

            But I’m glad I got you scurrying to the online dictionary to learn a new word, you philistine and inept breedbate.

          • Islander November 22, 2023 at 6:08 pm #

            I think synergy and consilience refer to two different (although similar) phenomena.

            I think synergy means that different forces actively reinforce each other and strengthen the total effect.

            I think consilience is more purely descriptive of the existence of strands of information that all trend the same but are basically siloed.

            However, the consilience of different information strands reinforces observers’ perceptions.

            That’s my take.

            Maybe I should check out the dictionary . . .

          • OG November 22, 2023 at 7:47 pm #

            You are unreal! I provided the very definition of the word proving that you are wrong. The very definition says, “additions.”

            Do you provide a different definition from a different source to dispute what I have provided? No.

            Do you even dispute my provided definition that proves you wrong? No.

            Do you thank me for correcting your pompous blowharding out of your butt? No.

            You just go on like facts do not matter.

            Cumulative is accumulating. D’uh. Cumulative is not exponential. D’uh.

            You are a pompous blowhard whiny little puke who is not nearly as intelligent as you like to pretend.


          • Soul Forensics November 22, 2023 at 8:33 pm #


            Do you move your lips when you read at dictionary dot com?

          • OG November 22, 2023 at 9:51 pm #

            This is not about me, SF. You are the pompous blowhard who is caught with your pants down trying to sound intelligent but ultimately displaying that you’re merely completely full of shit.

            I have tested 154 so calling me a “simpleton” rings hollow.

            You must try harder. Insults that are not true are ineffective.

            “There is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent.”
            – Lao Tzu

      • Soul Forensics November 22, 2023 at 10:50 pm #

        You’ve tested 154 for your diastolic base reading?

        You’re a philistine.

        • OG November 22, 2023 at 11:48 pm #

          I tested 154 IQ many decades ago. I am no “simpleton.” You must try harder. There are many things that I can be insulted over but stupid is not one of them.

          Yes, I suppose so. But I am an interesting philistine. Most philistines lived that way their whole life. I was born and raised philistine (north Regina) but then spent a quarter century in theatre-going, polished, sophisticate Toronto. I’ve since returned to be a philistine after the refined there stole my top-percentile successful life’s work from me.

          And, I’m not complaining. I’m simply stating facts.

          • Soul Forensics November 23, 2023 at 1:19 am #

            I’m using “philistine” in two of its core meanings. (You’re aware that words often have more than one meaning, right?)

            You’re a boor. Uncultured, and wholly concentrated on material, cumulative (including exponential) wealth.

          • OG November 23, 2023 at 1:53 am #

            Yes, I am aware that words often have more than one meaning. Have you ever heard of someone with an Econ degree who didn’t know that?

            FYI – Your ridiculous condescension makes you look silly.

            Yes, I agreed that I am uncultured but pointed out that I’m one of the rare people who lived the first third of their life uncultured, then the middle third cultured and, finally, now back to uncultured. I have freely chosen to abandon cultured as I found it chalked-full of whiny, pompous, blowhardy little pukes like you. Truly.

            wholly concentrated on material, cumulative (including exponential) wealth.

            Huh? I constantly talk of Jesus Christ of Nazareth and His message to save your soul. I have had my wealth extorted from me and now live a frugal and meagre existence.

            Yet I thank the Lord above for giving me the Job treatment.

            That is, you could not possibly be more wrong in your assessment of me.

            You’ve called me a “simpleton” “wholly concentrated on material, cumulative wealth” when I am now of that. You are not very good at this.

            Cumulative is to accumulate. It is additive by its very definition. Pride is a terrible sin, SF. It makes one look like a joke. Cumulative is not exponential and I have proven that – by its very definition.

            This is the point where real men stand up and say, “Yep. You got me on that one. I do like to toss a big word salad with my extensive vocabulary to appear more intelligent than I really am. My bad. Point taken.”

            But, no. Not you. You, rather, defy definitions of words to ludicrously protect your sickly little pride.

            I’m gonna enjoy kicking your ass all over this board, you cultured, pompous blowhard.

  64. messianicdruid November 22, 2023 at 2:05 pm #

    Have you heard of the ministry of reconciliation?

    Be ye reconciled to God in Christ [ anointing ] God in Christ conciliating the world [ system ] to himself.

    • Jarek November 22, 2023 at 2:14 pm #

      In other words, Black are our equals because only the spiritual matters.


      If someone insults, robs, beats, or rapes you, there is only a problem if you object to it. It’s all your problem, see? It takes two. As Lincoln said, nothing is good or bad unless thinking makes it so.

      If the Palis would just leave, peace would reign. Or if the Jews would just leave or consent to be dhimmis, peace (Islam means Peace!) would reign. But neither are Christians or sheep and thus trouble continues.

  65. messianicdruid November 22, 2023 at 2:09 pm #

    “Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.”

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    • Jarek November 22, 2023 at 2:17 pm #

      The people will listen after Christ returns as a Conquering King, killing the miscreants even as Kalki will do. Are they two different Avatars?

      As the Jesuits say (not any more!), the Indians must force hear the roar of the Cannon before they will hear the gospel.

      Fie on your gnostic pacifism. No pie for you.

  66. messianicdruid November 22, 2023 at 2:11 pm #

    The new paradigm is the kingdom of Creator God. Whose gonna argue with him? HOFDL

    • Soul Forensics November 22, 2023 at 2:14 pm #

      A bitcoin-encouragement acronym as religious advice? Interesting.

  67. beantownbill. November 22, 2023 at 2:20 pm #

    Ok, so today is 11/22/2023, the 60th anniversary. Does anyone here remember what they were doing that day (assuming you were already born and were old enough to understand)? I do. I was a freshman in college taking a chemistry midterm test. I was kinda in shock like many people were. I remember being pissed that no tests were canceled that day. I got the first page of the test done correctly, then I stopped trying. I ended up with a test score of 44 and dropped the course. When I later re-took the course and the exam, I did good. Still, the school should have cancelled classes, but they didn’t. JFK was from my home and got my mother a job.

    That’s when I began to dislike my school. I remember a classmate who was leaning against a wall, crying. He couldn’t stand upright. I remember being glued to the tv, trying to learn what was going on. I phoned my mom (they didn’t have texting in those days) and she could barely speak.

    Now 60 years have passed and it still feels like it happened yesterday.

    • OG November 22, 2023 at 3:13 pm #

      I was born 14 months later.

      60 years ago today was the USA crossing the Rubicon.

      JFK was going to bust up the Illuminati’s US Fed and CIA. For that, they blew his head off.

      • beantownbill. November 22, 2023 at 3:23 pm #

        True, most likely.

        I have to go food shopping, but when I get back later I’ll talk about my own feelings about the aftermath of the assassination.

        • malthuss November 22, 2023 at 5:13 pm #

          the day before t day you go shopping?

          the farmers market was a mad house.

      • SoftStarLight November 22, 2023 at 4:20 pm #

        That is an abrupt way to put it OG, but yeah, it seems like that is exactly what happened.

    • SoftStarLight November 22, 2023 at 4:19 pm #

      Wow that is so interesting, Bill. Thank you for sharing your experience. Nowadays classes would be canceled if something similar occurred I’m sure. Did you know JFK personally? That is so amazing that your family knew him directly. You were close to American royalty! Wow that is neat.

    • Islander November 22, 2023 at 6:14 pm #


      I sure do remember. And part of my memory is that classes at my small private school in Boston were NOT canceled.

      I also noticed, this a.m., that *no one* seemed to be noticing that today was the sixtieth anniversary of that awful day. Awful for the USA, and the world. In fact, I was so taken aback that I thought I might have misremembered, and the Death in Dallas Day might be November 23. So I checked it online.

      It really bummed me out.

      Not even a Google Doodle to mark this day.

      What is the implication of the general failure to recall to memory the events of Nov. 22, 1963? Is it to avoid prompting any further discussion of the possible perpetrators?

      There is a large faction that is convinced that Mossad played a large role, the motivation being JFK’s refusal to give nukes to Israel. Johnson did so immediately.

      • beantownbill. November 22, 2023 at 10:19 pm #

        The world would have been a safer place if the US was the only nuclear power. But it was not to be. Technology can’t be hidden indefinitely, imo.

        And yes, TPTB don’t want anyone to question the official 1963 dialog. The only reason why could be is that if the JFK killing is really a conspiracy and it was verifiable, then all future negative events could be considered conspiracies, leaving powerful perpetrators possibly vulnerable.

        Personally, I believe the CIA done did it.

        Here’s the problem with conspiracies: With all the conspiracy theories, only one could have happened. The others would be way off-base and subject to derision. I mean, who did it? Oswald acting alone, the Russians, the CIA, the Mafia, Castro, the military, Joe the grocery clerk? Or were they all responsible – did they all meet at a local diner for lunch one day and decide to off the president? Of all the possibilities, one or 2 groups or an individual did it, and the rest are wrong. But who?

        • OG November 23, 2023 at 2:50 pm #

          Once one completely accepts that the Warren Commission is pure bunk, one understands that the US gov’t is lying to the US people about the assassination of their dually-elected President and all else is just details.

  68. messianicdruid November 22, 2023 at 2:24 pm #

    You have a disagreement with a friend but your decisions were based on being born blind to blind parents in a blind society, so he says don’t worry about it the truth will set you free. All will be consiled.

    • Soul Forensics November 22, 2023 at 2:41 pm #

      The “turtles all the way down” infinite regress theory? That’s a dangerous game to play. Most people can’t handle the notion that there’s no free will, even with the crutch of the exoteric framework of religion.

      • OG November 22, 2023 at 3:08 pm #


      • Watcher November 22, 2023 at 4:37 pm #

        Free will must be placed into the context that there are other influencers at work upon the individual.

        Other, as in other unseen agents, who influence the mind. Let us call them intruders. There are various echelons of these. Many would call them demons. They are the ancient ones.

        Via other agencies the individual is still able to discern truth. However, the individual often chooses to follow the lie because it appears to have more value for gain in this world.

        This is the crux of the conflict. People still think that achieving gain over other people is the struggle at hand.

        The unseen realm is at war and humanity is the nexus of that war. People are being devoured by what they cannot see, turning themselves into weapons against their fellow.

        The One who knocks is at the door. He is the answer.

        Another door is opening. The Devourer is coming forth, and no one will escape his visitation. The time is at hand. No more play.

  69. messianicdruid November 22, 2023 at 3:30 pm #

    Jarek started out defining his new word as a verb. I’m simply agreeing with him.

    • SoftStarLight November 22, 2023 at 4:10 pm #

      Is that what happens now? Jarek creates new words. Hmm.

      • Jarek November 22, 2023 at 6:13 pm #

        Every thing is done by somebody. Why not me? You can do it too. If it’s not taken up by others, then it’s a seed that didn’t germinate.

      • OG November 22, 2023 at 8:02 pm #

        Exactly, Big Kahuna! Merriam-Webster’s English Dictionary added 690 words for September 2023 alone.


        • OG November 22, 2023 at 8:14 pm #

          In that vein, I propose a new verb: geeltee.


          SF was pompously blowharding yet again when OG simply geelteed him, thus, displaying SF’s arguments as little more than poorly-crafted word salad.

  70. messianicdruid November 22, 2023 at 3:53 pm #

    “The passivity of consile is thus perfect.“ You are describing reconciliation.

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    • Jarek November 22, 2023 at 6:15 pm #

      No I’m describing intellectual resolution. Reconciliation is between people. And effort is required in both cases. The current is always flowing but you must paddle your canoe out past the reeds and the shallows to find it.

  71. anmariwakaranai November 22, 2023 at 5:06 pm #

    Ricky Gervais, Animals being Funny


    A Happy Ending.

    My niece rolled into town destroyed so she called up a masseuse and booked in. When she arrived an Asian woman answered the door and said, ‘You work here, You work here?
    ‘No’, she explained, realizing it was a brothel. ‘I just want a massage. Can you do that?’ She was too tired to try this again.

    They said Yes!, then started fighting over which of the girls got to work on her. They were all wearing lingerie.

    ‘Do you ever get women in here?’, She asked.
    ‘Only one. Her husband not make her happy. You me make you happy?’
    ‘No, just a massage thanks.’ Best massage ever by all accounts.

    Happy Thanksgiving!

  72. messianicdruid November 22, 2023 at 5:11 pm #

    I was home sick from school that day and watched it on TV. Walter was sincere. Mae Brussell used to tell a story about Nixon being in Dallas on that day and his cab got lost and went up to a house to ask directions but the woman that answered the door fainted. There were probably a lot of “dignitaries” around that day. ^1

  73. Night Owl November 22, 2023 at 6:10 pm #

    Big news RE: the 2014 US-backed Maidan coup in Ukraine–even for some of our more propagandized members.

    “Like my studies, Maidan massacre trial verdict states that 3 other Maidan protesters (Vaida, Kostenko & Pekhenko) were also killed from Maidan-controlled locations & not by Berkut or other law enforcement units. It also confirms my studies that Berkut did not kill 2 other protesters, who were shot by pellets, like Vaida, at same place & time. Verdict confirmed my study that they were shot before Berkut company, which was charged with their killings, was even deployed there.”


    Ukie/US/NATO snipers were indeed shooting into the crowd.

    I am shocked, I tell you.

  74. Islander November 22, 2023 at 6:21 pm #

    FYI (bnr’s bedtime reading):

    Hamas in 2017: The document in full

    Hamas explains general principles and objectives in 42-article document
    By Middle East Eye staff
    May 2, 2017


    “2. Palestine, which extends from the River Jordan in the east to the Mediterranean in the west and from Ras al-Naqurah in the north to Umm al-Rashrash in the south, is an integral territorial unit. It is the land and the home of the Palestinian people. The expulsion and banishment of the Palestinian people from their land and the establishment of the Zionist entity therein do not annul the right of the Palestinian people to their entire land and do not entrench any rights therein for the usurping Zionist entity.”

    “16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.”

    “18. The following are considered null and void: the Balfour Declaration, the British Mandate Document, the UN Palestine Partition Resolution, and whatever resolutions and measures that derive from them or are similar to them. The establishment of “Israel” is entirely illegal and contravenes the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people and goes against their will and the will of the Ummah; it is also in violation of human rights that are guaranteed by international conventions, foremost among them is the right to self-determination.

    “19. There shall be no recognition of the legitimacy of the Zionist entity. Whatever has befallen the land of Palestine in terms of occupation, settlement building, judaisation or changes to its features or falsification of facts is illegitimate. Rights never lapse.

    “20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.”

    “25. Resisting the occupation with all means and methods is a legitimate right guaranteed by divine laws and by international norms and laws. At the heart of these lies armed resistance, which is regarded as the strategic choice for protecting the principles and the rights of the Palestinian people.”

    “20. Hamas believes that no part of the land of Palestine shall be compromised or conceded, irrespective of the causes, the circumstances and the pressures and no matter how long the occupation lasts. Hamas rejects any alternative to the full and complete liberation of Palestine, from the river to the sea. However, without compromising its rejection of the Zionist entity and without relinquishing any Palestinian rights, Hamas considers the establishment of a fully sovereign and independent Palestinian state, with Jerusalem as its capital along the lines of the 4th of June 1967, with the return of the refugees and the displaced to their homes from which they were expelled, to be a formula of national consensus.”

    • benr November 22, 2023 at 6:28 pm #

      Sure, and they don’t want to turn them into a protected people of the book who pay the tax and have next to no rights.
      They also don’t believe in lying to further the cause no not one bit.
      Read the books and studied Sharia law you might want too as well.
      Nothing but propaganda and bullshit.
      All you idiots who support this group of people would be the first to get raped and murdered.
      I am amazed at just how stupid everyone has become.

      • OG November 22, 2023 at 8:21 pm #

        It is not a recent development, benr. People have been generally quite stupid century in and century out.

        • beantownbill. November 22, 2023 at 10:21 pm #

          You can say that again, OG.

      • JohnAZ November 23, 2023 at 9:48 am #

        Yeah, Benr. Folks that think that Hamas are the good guys should move to Michigan or Minnesota where their Muslim friends abound.

        • OG November 23, 2023 at 11:53 am #

          Speaking only for myself, Hamas are not “good guys.” Hamas are “bad guys” in cahoots with Mossad/CIA/MI6 “bad guys.”

          That is, calling Hamas “bad” hardly proves Israel “good.”

      • Anthea November 23, 2023 at 12:39 pm #

        I see no reason to support either side in the war, which support would presumably be on the grounds that we don’t “like” one side or the other. The world is full of people we don’t “like,” and they often set about killing other people. Maybe some people “like” these other people. Maybe not.

        There’s some guy who has made repeated posts on Zerohedge about the Indonesian invasion of West Papua in 1963, in which tens of thousands of Papuans were displaced, and apparently there were claims of genocide. (The reason for the guy’s post is that he wishes to support the genocide of the Palestinians by pointing out that this type of thing has occurred before. But we knew that.)

        Anyway, it seems to me that the US no more has a dog in this Israel/Palestinian conflict than it does in the Indonesian/Papuan conflict. I don’t know why we’re even talking about it. This is like expecting me to take sides every time there’s a fight down at the local bar.

        I see no advantage to the US in supporting either side. And actually, I see considerable disadvantage to the US’s military and economic support of Israel, which costs billions of dollars a year. Israel’s existence is a disadvantage to the US for that reason alone.

      • Anthea November 23, 2023 at 12:45 pm #

        @ benr:

        If you don’t “like” Arabs/Muslims, it seems to me that your only concern in this regard should be to prevent them from coming to the US. Also seems like it would be a good idea to avoid going to any Arab/Muslim country.

    • JohnAZ November 22, 2023 at 7:42 pm #

      Let’s see, who do I want to occupy the crossroads that Palestine occupies. Hamas, a band of cutthroats or Israel, a European entity.

      Screw Hamas, Israel, drive them into the sea.

      This list of Hamas desires is just an indication of how rabid they are.

      A wish list, it will never happen.

      Israel has just made its first error, this time.

      50 hostages for 150 thugs, and four days for Hamas to re-arm. Not good.

      • OG November 22, 2023 at 7:55 pm #

        Hamas is a Mossad/CIA/MI6 black op, JAZ. Their leaders are billionaires living at the Four Seasons in Qatar. It is all theatre with the goal being Gaza’s natural gas reserves and the Ben-Gurion Canal joining the Mediterranean and Red Seas.

        You don’t really think that the IDF slept for 7 hours, do you?

        How many times are you going to fall for their lying bullshit?

        What is your GLT score?

      • tucsonspur November 23, 2023 at 2:20 am #

        How about this?

        ‘Who legally owns the Golan Heights?

        Israeli occupation of the Golan Heights – Wikipedia

        In 2019, the United States became the only state to recognize the Golan Heights as Israeli sovereign territory, while the rest of the international community continues to consider the territory Syrian held under Israeli military occupation.’

        Screw Israel.

        • JohnAZ November 23, 2023 at 9:37 am #

          Who legally owns the Golan Heights?

          Whoever has the cojones to defend it.

          The high land has military advantage, Israel will never let it go as it commands the north.

        • benr November 23, 2023 at 10:17 am #

          What is legal?
          Define that!
          At one time it was legal for the lords of the land to have their way with peasants’ fiancé’s before they got married.
          It was legal!

          • elysianfield November 23, 2023 at 11:19 am #

            …It’s good to be da king….

        • Anthea November 23, 2023 at 11:55 am #

          I don’t see how “legality” has ever figured into nation-states’ territorial claims. This sort of thing is adjudicated by the force of arms alone, and it is adjudicated by the winners.

          • benr November 24, 2023 at 10:11 am #

            Thank you, Anthea, for answering that question so well.

  75. BULLITT November 22, 2023 at 6:38 pm #

    I was a senior in high school when JFK was assassinated. As I remember a fellow classmate who helped in the high school office relayed the info to us in the gymnasium that was across the lobby from the office. In a few minutes, the high school principal made the announcement that JFK had been shot and had died. At that time there was much anger among the students. JFK was a hero to us. Many of the female students were crying. Nearly forty years later at the same school I was a teacher. The day 911 happened the reaction was totally different. Our school went into a lockdown. The general sense of the student population was fear. We had actually been hit as a nation.

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    • Anthea November 23, 2023 at 11:50 am #

      I was junior in high school when JFK was assassinated, sitting in an Algebra II class. As far as I know, no one had heard anything in advance of the announcement over the PA that JFK had been shot and was dead. A moment of silence was requested. I think the students’ reaction was shock and disbelief. To tell you the truth, I didn’t believe it.

      One odd thing was that, several months before, one of my classmates who had recently moved from Texas, told her friends and classmates that she had had a terrible dream that JFK had been shot and killed in Texas.

      Many years later, I was talking with a friend who had gone to high school “on the rich side of town”–Shawnee-Mission East high school in Prairie Village, Kansas. He said that the the announcement of JFK’s assassination was made, the kids cheered. (That area used to be heavily Republican.)

  76. KesaAnna November 22, 2023 at 8:31 pm #

    1 . Stupid — or , rather , fantasist , is , I think , the notion that Israel is any more sustainable than the Chirstian Kingdoms of Jerusalem and Antioch .

    But , hey , you want to keep pissing money away on a dick – measuring contest , be my guest.

    2. If you are really concerned about raping , murdering Camel Jockies , then you should be in the forefront of calling for a restoration of Palestine.

    Where are all these Palestinian refugees going to go ? To your back yard .

    As I have said before , when making a list of things I think are most likely to render the United States a historical foot note ,

    those are the things U.S. supporters are doing.

    • BackRowHeckler November 22, 2023 at 10:16 pm #

      Ah, the Kingdom of Heaven.

      Crusader rule in Jerusalem lasted about 90 years.

      Europeans built some pretty nice castles in those 90 years.

      Then the World shifted, with Genghis Khan’s Golden Hordes closing in from the east, and resurgent Egyptians closing in from the west.

      • JohnAZ November 23, 2023 at 9:40 am #

        Saladin took Jerusalem, then North Africa then half of Spain.

        It is hard to resist folks willing to die for their trip to paradise.

  77. beantownbill. November 22, 2023 at 11:03 pm #

    Today was a pretty shitty day for me. So it goes (as Kurt Vonnegut would say). I had stated a good friend of mine died a few weeks ago. Saturday his children held a Catholic mass for him at a local church and a celebration of his life at a function hall. Two hundred people attended.

    My wife and I went to church. Talk about being a fish out of water, We were fish in the Sahara. Kneel down, stand up, cross yourself, watch the priest wave a smoking pot around, take communion, eat a wafer, sing hymns extolling Christ. Of course we didn’t do these things. My wife was so uncomfortable just sitting there, she turned to the woman next to us and said, “We’re not doing this, we’re Jewish”. I said to myself, “Oh, shit!” I expected everyone to turn around and give us a hard stare, and then a Muslim with a scimitar coming out from somewhere gutting us and yelling, “Look here, there’s Jews here. Kill them, kill them! Of course that didn’t happen, but….

    What I found very interesting about the whole church affair was how the mass was about being a good Christian so one would live after death. I could see that was the whole appeal – having a good afterlife.

    • OG November 23, 2023 at 12:06 am #

      Talk about being a fish out of water, We were fish in the Sahara. Kneel down, stand up, cross yourself, watch the priest wave a smoking pot around, take communion, eat a wafer, sing hymns extolling Christ. Of course we didn’t do these things.

      That’s the best writing that I’ve seen on CFN in a while. From a Roman Catholic ex-alter boy: thanks for the chuckles, Bill!

      I could see that was the whole appeal – having a good afterlife.

      That is the message of Jewish Jesus Christ of Nazareth. The corrupt Jewish political power of His day were threatened and crucified Him. But He truly was the son of God and, of course, a Jew.

      Just as anmari shared the report of 200 Gaza Muslims recently converting to Christianity en masse, many Jews, Hindus, etc. will do the same at End Times. As you, I believe that we are very close to End Times.

      God bless you and your wife for showing your respect. May there always be peace among our people while we grieve and commemorate a fallen good man or women from either side.

      Your Torah is our Old Testament. Your God is our God. Your son is our God. We are one. One God.

      • OG November 23, 2023 at 12:26 am #

        *As you know, I believe that we are very close to End Times.

    • stelmosfire November 23, 2023 at 10:07 am #

      I never really understood the whole Jewish thing. Is it a religion, a nationality, an ethnicity, or just a frame of mind. Sammy Davis was a Jew. So is Ivanka Trump. So anyone can be a Jew. That’s the religious aspect. I was raised a Catholic, baptized, first communion, CCD, churcjh every Sunday and Holy days, no meat on Friday. the whole shebang. all that crap. But I no way consider myself Catholic. My Mother was born in Italy. I’m first generation Italian. But I’m not Italian, I’m American. What is it with the “I’m a Jew” projection BS? I really don’t understand it at all. I worked with a guy, Kaufman, whiter than me. He was about as Jewish as Joe Carbone down the street. If not for his name who would know.

    • Anthea November 23, 2023 at 10:23 am #

      @ beantownbill:

      For non-Catholics attending mass, the standard procedure is, “Stand when we stand, sit when we sit, and sit when we kneel.” There are always a few people who sit during the parts of the mass when the congregation is kneeling. No one inquires as to why. In some cases, they are just elderly people who can’t kneel for any period of time, people with a chronic illness, or pregnant women, or maybe just people with bad knees. Non-Catholics attend mass quite often, so there’s no reason to upset yourself by thinking you’re standing out. Actually, quite a mob of non-Catholics attended mass for my grandson’s baptism–most of the (very numerous) relatives on both sides of the family, with one Jew among the bunch, along with his Catholic wife, who was probably not well enough to kneel. (I didn’t look behind me to check.)

      While there is certainly a great deal of focus on “the afterlife” in Catholocism, and Christianity generally, there is also a great emphasis on the work (and methodology) of making our earthly lives good. So the Church provides the framework for this. There is the basic catechism, the scriptures, the traditions, and voluminous works by theologians. Clearly, if a person would like to lead a good life, this requires instruction, thought, study, meditation, and plenty of good examples (the saints). Living a good earthly life requires reason, order, self-control, and genuine devotion to those things that are good.

      E.g., for a person to be able to reason, they will almost invariably need to be instructed as to the methodology for that. The same goes for understanding what “good” is. Obviously, things like gluttony, vanity, sexual license, and so forth may easily appear to us to be good.

      We know that there are a lot of things that are not “good” about the earthly life and the people here. Hence, if there is such a thing as “good,” it would seem that it must be elsewhere–that is, on some other plane of existence. To have a reasonably clear idea about what “good” is, one must have a referent outside this world.

      I suppose a person could reasonably debate about whether or not we humans can be admitted to this “other place” where “good” resides. I suppose the basic Catholic position is that, if you want to go there, you would likewise have to be “good.”

      The idea of an “afterlife” or heavenly plane of existence is, I think, necessary to creating goodness in the earthly life, because that is what informs it.

      • beantownbill. November 23, 2023 at 12:40 pm #

        I like your reply, Anthea. I actually followed your comments about what to do re sitting, standing and kneeling. It made sense to me, so that’s what I did.

        I’m still grappling about whether or not there’s an afterlife. I was a scientist, too, so my mental modus operandi is ‘show me directly’. I’ve never seen someone who died come back and talk to me, so the whole thing is a matter of faith. I wish I could have that kind of faith. It may be sad, but that’s how I’ve lived my life – that’s my mental construct.

        I think I know what constitutes ‘good’ in this world, and I try to act that way (admittedly imperfectly). I don’t need to believe in an afterlife or ‘higher power’ of some sort to be good. I’ve tried to be bad to see if it makes any difference, but it doesn’t work for me because when I do, my conscience grabs me and won’t let go.

        But… I’ve always envied (I know, that’s a sin) those that do have faith. It seems it’s a much easier path. That’s why I generally respect those that do.

        Once, when I was much younger, because I was willing to experience most anything, I went to an old astrologer to have my horoscope read, even though I thought it was all bunk. She said one thing I still remember: The purpose of my life path is to gain spiritual enlightenment. I’m still trying to gain that.

    • Anthea November 23, 2023 at 10:37 am #

      @ beantownbill:

      Actually, how do you even know what is beautiful? My analogies are always about how one can distinguish between a Ming vase and a pile of dogshit, or between music and the sound of a road-grader on a gravel road. But, just as there is a faculty for knowing what it beautiful (even if that faculty is not very refined or well developed), there is a faculty for knowing what is good and what is evil–which faculty must also be refined and developed).

      This subject has come up here from time to time, and one of my gripes has always been that people like to pretend they can’t distinguish between beauty/ugliness or good/evil–or to pretend that there is no clear distinction (though I will admit to gradations).

      While I’m pretty sure you will not be inclined to watch a Fr. Ripperger video, he goes into this is some detail in his sermon on the Mother of Fair Love. What I like is his insistence that beauty is objective, followed by a list of some of the elements required for a thing to be beautiful. httpX://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=fr.+ripperger+mother+of+fair+love&mid=76D696CFBCB385FEA21776D696CFBCB385FEA217&FORM=VIRE

  78. OG November 22, 2023 at 11:50 pm #


    I received a big dose of “carnage” this evening. My cousin announced to the family that she has been diagnosed with breast cancer. Prayers for her are appreciated!

  79. OG November 23, 2023 at 2:29 am #


    OG, basic physics. A leave is probably 70-80% water. Before the leaf can burn all that water has to be turned into steam. That requires a lot of energy.

    You never answered my question.

    Why, in the yt video that you sent me (showing downed power lines igniting several unwanted fires) match every other fire we’ve ever seen (i.e. vegetation always is the first fuel to burn) while in Paradise, CA and Lahaina, HI, the vegetation was the only thing that did not burn?

    Surely you are not saying that the 2500F+ temperatures that melted auto glass was insufficient energy to ignite palm leaves!

    C’mon! Get real.

    All fires always burn the vegetation first. Always. Brown (dry) very first then green (wet), sure, but, still, the vegetation always first. Except for DEW fires like Paradise and Lahaina. Then the vegetation not at all.

    Good fences make good neighbors.

    That hardly answers these questions:

    Also, do you believe that a 5-mile 12? high blackout fence should have been John Pelletier’s top priority immediately following the inferno?

    Do you believe, as he claimed, that it would keep the dust in?

    If so, did the dust pile up at the foot of this fence like snow-fencing in a Saskatchewan winter?

    Also, if that were true, why did they guard this fence from the outside? [One can’t really “guard” dust in wind, right?]

    And, finally, wanna buy a bridge?

    I believe that you have a 0 GLT, Elmo. Am I right?

    How many times do you have to be lied to before you finally realize that you are listening to liars?

    • stelmosfire November 23, 2023 at 9:04 am #

      Yep, you got me OG. I’m a zero. What have you ever done in your lifetime to benefit your fellow man? Seems as if everything you do or touch turns to shit per your own admissions.

      • OG November 23, 2023 at 10:57 am #

        What a bizarre personal attack, Elmo. DEW attacks by the US government on US citizens is hardly all about me!

        Yes, I got you. Yes, Paradise and Lahaina were DEW attacks. Yes, I am right and you are wrong.

        No, Paradise and Lahaina are not about me.

        You should have simply admitted defeat like a man as opposed to lashing out like a little girl, imho.

        I suffer extortion and you blame the victim? I suffer extortion and, therefore, everything that I do or touch turns to shit per my own admissions?

        I don’t think so.

        For example, my 26 y.o. son and 21 y.o. daughter are both doing great in their lives, fyi. That is, my important mandates didn’t “turn to shit” but, rather, were successful.

        I never called you R