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795 Responses to “Smoke and Fire”

  1. Mountain gal August 14, 2017 at 9:26 am #

    And let’s not forget that one of the litmus tests of the so-called “Progressives” and the left is to be anti-Israel and pro anything Muslim. It’s ironic given that the only country in the Middle East that doesn’t discriminate against women, kill gays etc. is Israel, but that’s the one they choose to demonize. I don’t think the Feminist queer sorts would fare too well in most(or any) Arab countries. Makes no sense to me but there you have it.

    • ladros August 14, 2017 at 9:44 am #

      Totally agree, very good point. Also Israel has the best technology with regard to agriculture, water usage and growing things in the desert…

      • FallenHero August 14, 2017 at 9:49 am #

        I was once a die-hard liberal but it was oldschool values like hard work, no war, pro environment. I was kicked out of the democrat party by all the man-hating, ‘white privilege’. It is unfortunate that no one espouses these views any longer.

        • ozone August 14, 2017 at 10:01 am #

          “It is unfortunate that no one espouses these views any longer.”

          Oh, a huge majority of us working-class mutts espouse just those “oldschool” views (at least ’round these parts), it’s just that we aren’t in positions of wealth and power.

          • RIB August 14, 2017 at 10:07 am #

            or in control of the main stream media

          • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 1:16 pm #

            Wrong. Old fashioned Whites were for their People, not just their individual selves or amorphous “community”. Having a People is part of being a viable, happy individual. And being able to advocate for your People is an individual Right – or should be.

            You are against all of the above.

          • ozone August 14, 2017 at 5:02 pm #

            As is usual, vladdie knows and talks shit. (And we all knew what kind of poo he’d be flinging as soon as he got on shift.)

    • Zoltar August 14, 2017 at 9:58 am #

      While identifying the bullshit and villainy rampant on both ends of the political spectrum these days, let us not pretend that Israel qualifies as “good guys.” It is a despicable little theocracy, continuing to impose a brutal and vicious apartheid that would be shocking even if it weren’t for the irony of the Jews having suffered similar treatment at the hands of the Germans not so long ago.
      Add to that the immeasurable damage that AIPAC has done to this nation in terms of foreign policy and Middle East relations. America has no worse “friend” than Israel.

      • Mountain gal August 14, 2017 at 10:20 am #

        You’re entitled to your opinion, however misguided it may be. Israel has it’s issues and has put off for far too long dealing with some major problems as there are no good alternatives. I fear that you’ve drank the kool-aid though and have been mainlining your Israel “news” from our liberal controlled MSM. Given the locale and their neighbors, they are up against far more than any of us in the cushy US have to confront, with an ocean between us and those who would harm us.

        • hmuller August 14, 2017 at 10:34 am #

          The MSM I’ve seen all these years has been pretty darn supportive of Israel. Maybe we live in parallel universes, Mountain gal. LOL

          The problem is that there’s no way to be an occupying power over a couple million violent, angry people without being dragged down into committing cruel and violent actions. One atrocity leads to another and both sides argue about ‘who started it’ like kinder garden children.

          I lament the death of the Jewish ethical and wisdom tradition, killed by Israel’s perceived need to exercise power over another people.

          • Zoltar August 14, 2017 at 11:06 am #

            Well put, H. Mountain Gal is delusional in supposing that Israel has not benefited from enormously favorable treatment by an American press which it has long influenced to the detri
            ment of objective reportage.

          • Bruce E August 14, 2017 at 11:39 am #

            “Maybe we live in parallel universes, Mountain gal. LOL”

            Absolutely. Parallel universes. It never ceases to surprise me that anyone could accuse the Left of being anti-Israel with a straight face.

            In that alternate universe, apparently President Obama never called for unity like Trump did during a national crisis:


          • beantownbill. August 14, 2017 at 11:51 am #

            Forgetting about who’s at fault, my only concern is that Israel survives. To me, that’s the whole ball game.

          • hmuller August 14, 2017 at 12:01 pm #

            beantownbill, why is Israel’s survival by any means necessary the whole ball game? I thought ZEN meditators cared about justice (not “Just Us”) in the world. Or does Chosen People privilege prevail over all else?

          • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 1:19 pm #

            Thanks Bill! As Joe Sobran said, We’d be thrilled with dual loyalty.

          • aibohphobia August 14, 2017 at 5:26 pm #

            The real irony and tragedy with Israel is that Israeli Jewish people are indistinguishable, biologically, from Palestinians. In terms of genetic markers of heredity, the Palestinians are the other 11 ‘lost tribes of Israel.’

            Further, Palestinians are despised and mistreated throughout the Arab world–They only get support from other Arab nations so that they can destroy their own people going after Israel.

            If Israel (or Palestinians for that matter) are to survive, their only hope is to realize that they have more in common with each other than with the B*st*rds that surround them or manipulative allies, and come up with some way to live together.

            Seems very unlikely..

          • messianicdruid August 14, 2017 at 6:38 pm #

            I wish you all would stop using the words “Jew” and “Israel ” interchangeably. They are not the same.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 1:18 pm #

          You’re drunk the Mountain Dew, Mountain gal. It’s rotted your wisdom teeth.

        • GhostOfHam August 14, 2017 at 3:05 pm #

          Have you read Theodor Herzl? Do you know of the “plan” for a Greater Israel from the Euphrates to the Sea? Do you suppose that plan might cause some contention?

      • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 10:35 am #

        Muslim advocacy organizations in Europe & US. Here is a partial list.

        United Synagogue
        West London Synagogue of British Jews.
        London-based Institute for Jewish Policy Research
        The Jewish Council for Racial Equality UK
        Board of British Jews
        Office of the Chief Rabbi Liberal Judaism & Masorti Judaism UK
        Movement for Reform Judaism UK
        Board of Deputies of British Jews
        Central Jewish Organization of the Netherlands
        Hungarian Jewish communities Jewish community of Milan
        European Jewish Association lobby
        Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society (HIAS)
        Central Council of Jews in Germany
        Association of Jewish Family and Children’s Agencies
        Habonim Dror North America
        Jewish Council for Public Affairs
        Jewish Labor Committee
        The Rabbinic Call for Human Rights
        The American Jewish Committee (AJC)
        The Anti-Defamation League of B’nai B’rith
        The National Council of Jewish Women
        The Union for Reform Judaism
        The Workmen’s Circle
        The Rabbinical Assembly
        Jewish World Watch
        Jewish World Congress
        American Jewish Congress
        World Jewish Congress
        Central Jewish Organization of the Netherlands
        Mazsihisz umbrella group of Hungarian Jewish communities
        Jewish community of Milan
        European Jewish Association lobby
        In France the organizations LICRA (Ligue internationale contre le racisme et l’antisemitisme) and CRIF(Conseil Représentatif des Institutions Juives de France)
        Israeli organizations even “rescue” Muslims off the coast of Europe and physically transport them to European soil

        • JimInFlorida August 14, 2017 at 11:59 am #

          Be careful malthuss! Your list is at risk of disappearing into the digital ether!
          Those very NGO’s are the tares sown by the Evil One and his earthly servants. The latter who shall not be named or even hinted of.

          • shotho August 14, 2017 at 1:10 pm #

            Just like my posts on this site – into nothingness, which is probably where they belong like everything else on here.

          • GhostOfHam August 14, 2017 at 3:32 pm #

            Welcome to the Overton Zone.

      • uslabor August 14, 2017 at 11:09 am #

        Well said.

    • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 10:25 am #

      “It’s ironic given that the only country in the Middle East that doesn’t discriminate against women, kill gays etc. is Israel”

      I don’t recall them killing gays in Lebanon. Now, “discriminate against women” requires some definition. There are tribes in Israel and Lebanon that restrict the choices for their women, but it’s not law. Perhaps you mean there’s no law against those tribes doing that?

      Quibbles aside, I don’t see too many Arab Muslim citizens of Israel departing for Muslim-majority lands. Watch what people DO, not what they SAY.

      • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 10:58 am #

        Jews and Goys can or cant marry in Israel?

        • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 11:27 am #

          Each other? Dunno. You got a link? News to me.

        • SteveO August 15, 2017 at 2:26 pm #

          The answer is “no”.


          When I visited Israel about 5 years ago, my guide explained that there is a large tourist trade with Crete where Jews and Goim (which in many cases are Jews that are not as orthodox as others) are married. Israel recognizes marriages from foreign countries and people exploit that loop hole.

      • Beryl of Oyl August 14, 2017 at 12:06 pm #

        I don’t see the poor, besieged Palestinians getting into boats and pouring into Europe, either.
        That situation (Gaza) reminds me of the common situation of small siblings fighting, with the older kid swinging his fists and yelling “I’m not doing anything!” while the smaller kid just has to walk right into it.

        • SvrzoH August 16, 2017 at 1:03 am #

          You would love to see them sailing away in dinghies ? Why ?

          The movie ‘Inglorious bastards’, shows what the Jews would have loved to do to ‘them’ after all lines of oppression were crossed. Now they get angry if a few, mostly rocks, are being hurled in their direction, and we all know the response.
          Your ‘siblings fighting’ analogy, or, as presented in the media, some kind of temporary misunderstanding between two parties and where oppressed one is a ‘trouble maker’ is an insult to true suffering and wrecked lives of Palestinians.
          It requires a special mental gymnastics for Mountain gal above to create a rainbow picture of a of a State which would not last two minutes without massive US backing.
          To a cry: ‘We did not have our own State’ the World never asked a question: ‘Why didn’t you ?’. Every, even the tinniest
          nation carved their own borders without use of other nations might (OK, maybe Kosovo Albanians are exception) and soldiers that you despise (Guy who pronounces word ‘world’ as a ‘v-r-l-d’ was clear on that).

      • outsider August 14, 2017 at 7:37 pm #

        Dr Tom,
        Unless I’m mistaken, Syria’s Basher Al-Assad doesn’t go around looking to kill gays either. The same cannot be said for those he is valiantly fighting – the ISIS/Al Qaeda head choppers who have been given billions of our hard earned tax dollars so that they can overturn one of the last remaining secular governments in the Mideast, and turn Syria into another radical Jihadi hell hole.

    • uslabor August 14, 2017 at 11:06 am #

      So much for your litmus test. At the risk of being labeled a “progressive” (oh, the horror) I am not anti Israel or pro -anything-Muslim. I am, however, anti -Zionist, of which JHK seems to be a card carrying member. Israel may not kill gays, but they do kill as many Palestinian women and children as they please, with USA blessings and financing. Israel continues to build settlements where they are not supposed to and so continues the theft of Palestine from it’s indigent people..

      As for the Muslim world discriminating against women and gays, that sounds suspiciously feminist and ,dare I say, LGBTQQ.

      You’re not a feminist, are you?

      • Beryl of Oyl August 14, 2017 at 11:33 am #

        Feminist? Where have you been?
        Gloria Steinem, Hillary, et al, have sold out feminism to the globalist cause.

        • uslabor August 14, 2017 at 11:46 am #

          You don’t make any sense, JHK used the term feminist several times, and then you pose a silly question like tat.

          • Beryl of Oyl August 14, 2017 at 12:13 pm #

            It is no longer a feminist position that the Muslim world discriminates against women.
            Witness Gloria and the abominable Linda Sarsour at a ‘Women’s March’. Witness the bastardization of the iconic HOPE poster, into a woman with the American flag used as a headrag, a symbol of oppression.
            As I’ve said, Gloria and Hillary are just fine with it.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 1:23 pm #

            Feminists have betrayed themselves just like everyone else has (Labor, Environmentalists, Christians, etc) – all to have a seat at the Table of Power.

            She’s right: of the main organizers of the Women’s March is a Jihadi infiltrator. They just don’t care.

        • GhostOfHam August 14, 2017 at 3:07 pm #

          And Ms. Steinem was C.I.A.
          See how that feminism works?

      • sophia August 14, 2017 at 5:17 pm #

        Maybe it isn’t feminist. Maybe being stoned for adultery or even being killed by your father and brothers without trial for coming home late at night or being whipped in the street for uncovering your head isn’t a great way to live.

        • sophia August 14, 2017 at 5:20 pm #

          Yeah, some of the above commentary shows that in many ways feminism was always about rich white women whose concerns were never those of the middle or working classes.

      • fairguy August 14, 2017 at 6:42 pm #

        Ironic that a blog post on the supposed rise of modern day fascism and the failure of critical thinking on both ends of the political spectrum, elicits knee-jerk and partisan talkbalk on the topic of Israel’s role in the world.

        Here, a prime example of the “I’m not anti-israeli, just anti-Zionist” meme that the prog-left spouts. It’s supposed to mean, I’m not an extremist right wing corn pone anti-semitic fascist, no – I’m a kind, progressive, humanistic person who sides with the global oppressed, and in this case the Palestinians in the Israeli occupied territories. But me the Israeli thinks, here is just another anti-semite in sheep’s clothing, selecting Israel to be his whipping boy for all matters wrong in today’s world. Proof, the number of anti-Israeli UN resolutions vs anti-any other oppressor.

        On the other hand, the knee-jerk defenders of Israel’s modern day policy of settlement expansion at the expense of – not just the Arab minority – but also the environment and the chances of peace.

        In summary, to conduct an intelligent discussion on the topic of Israel, one must be aware of a few realities, and approach it with an open mind. The realities are:

        – Israel’s existence and political system are geared more after the European nation-state model, and the English parliamentary system, than that of the USA. By design, it is a nation of the Jews (not a religious state but a national one) which grants equality to all other nationalities. Like it or not, that is its design.

        – It is in many respects, a true democracy which has evolved to not persecute gay, LGBT and religious minorities. The first two in that list are fairly recent developments, but are there to stay. The IDF happily has gays and trans individuals in combat units. Israel has not lost its mind in that respect and understands that intellectual and cyber capabilities – not sexual orientation – are what matter most in the realm of modern defense.

        – To my mind, it has unfortunately chosen a corrupt and nepotistic leader (Mr. Netanyahu) who will soon be brought down by his avarice. In a wider spectrum, it has mistakenly bowed to the religious nationalistic right in its policies since his election. This is hopefully a temporary phenomenon which may shift with the next election. No, you won’t see the Israeli Labor pary rulng any time soon, but you may see a coalition of pragmatist forces come together.

        So, hold the hatred and keep the discussion real is what I ask.

      • Q. Shtik August 15, 2017 at 12:31 am #

        Israel continues to build settlements where they are not supposed to and so continues the theft of Palestine from it’s indigent people. – uslabor


        Yes, the Palestinian people are definitely indigent, meaning poor and needy however I believe what you meant to say was ‘indigenous people.’

        Indigenous people are people defined in international or national legislation as having a set of specific rights based on their historical ties to a particular territory, and their cultural or historical distinctiveness from other populations that are often politically dominant.

    • CakeFarts August 14, 2017 at 1:00 pm #

      Israel is an apartheid state.

      • S M Tenneshaw August 14, 2017 at 9:38 pm #


    • tnroe August 14, 2017 at 3:17 pm #

      “As of 2008, Iran carries out more sex change operations than any other nation in the world except for Thailand. The government provides up to half the cost for those needing financial assistance, and a sex change is recognised on the birth certificate.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transsexuality_in_Iran

      • sophia August 14, 2017 at 5:22 pm #


        Iran? Thailand?

    • xhidarta August 14, 2017 at 8:57 pm #

      Sorry, I missed the connection between today’s post and Israel, other than another opportunity to run hasbara for Israel.
      Be that as it may, Israel is “the only country in the Middle East that doesn’t discriminate against women,” err, except in public transportation as Orthodox Jews demand to have women move over to the back of the bus? Or in the case of Ethiopian women of the Aliyah? or Israeli Arab women? Or Palestinian women and little girls fried under a heavy rain of white phosphorus, every time the IDF “mows the lawn”? If reacting to facts on the ground is “demonizing” Israel then so be it. Since you and many others are fond of touting the uniqueness of Israel, let me concur with that assumption: Israel is the only country in the ME and in fact in the world, that operates the biggest open air prison which doubles as a “kill box”. That’s very unique in my estimation. In fact the words of General Rafael Eitan … “All the Arabs will be able to do is scuttle around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle” have become prophetic 35 years hence. In the same theme Rabin said “We will reduce them to cockroaches” Kind of a fixation with roaches here, no?

    • GaiaCracker August 17, 2017 at 11:12 am #

      Excuse me Mountain Gal, but your comment is not only incredibly naive, but it reeks of racism. To claim that Israel is “the only country in the Middle East that doesn’t discriminate against women, kill gays, etc.” is just wrong. Israel is not a democracy by any stretch, much like other countries in the region. The protections implemented under law are for Zionists and do not hold for Muslims. Muslims and even Christian Arabs/Palestinians are considered second class citizens and are discriminated against, be it women, men, gays, etc. Your comment is like saying Nazi Germany didn’t discriminate against “their own people.” Well yeah, that’s true, if you ignore non Aryans and non-party members.

  2. K-Dog August 14, 2017 at 9:34 am #

    The pro-Trump group Patriot Prayer had a rally here yesterday (Seattle) and Citizens against Hate held a counter rally. The police kept the two groups apart and this required much pepper spray and loud explosions to keep the Citizens against Hate group from kicking Trump patriot ass. Notably absent is any comment from Trump on any of our hot summer troubles percolating beneath Americas sunburned and tattooed skin anywhere. Not an ‘August’ presence at all but his racist ass does not concern himself with the rabble unless they are voting for him and they already did that. At this time it is probably best he keep his pie-hole shut anyway.

    • FallenHero August 14, 2017 at 9:54 am #

      If you think Trump is part of the problem you don’t understand the dynamics truly at work here.

      Hint: his connection with banks/wall street is all you need to know.

      • K-Dog August 14, 2017 at 9:58 am #

        I did not state that Trump was part of the problem. Trump just needs to keep his damn mouth shut and I am sure any resident of Guam would agree with me.

        • benr August 15, 2017 at 8:17 pm #

          Mr Dog having lurked here a good long time I can say without a doubt when Obama was rabble rousing and stuttering his way through many canned speeches about “if I had a son he would look like Trayvon” Or the stupid beer summit, or the thug thief and jay walker, not once did you say the same about him….Why?
          Methinks I smell a died in the wool one way flapper valve.
          Obama setup and encouraged much of the racial nonsense we are seeing now.

          • K-Dog August 15, 2017 at 10:27 pm #

            You are being ridiculous. Tell me genius, dod you consider perhaps I did not care for Obama and ignored his speeches. I’m sorry my behavior did not meet your choreographed expectations. Perhaps if you gave me a script I could do better.

            Best you keep lurking.

          • benr August 16, 2017 at 3:40 pm #

            August 15, 2017 at 10:27 pm #

            You are being ridiculous. Tell me genius, dod you consider perhaps I did not care for Obama and ignored his speeches. I’m sorry my behavior did not meet your choreographed expectations. Perhaps if you gave me a script I could do better.

            Best you keep lurking.

            In other words YOU GAVE HIM A PASS!
            But but but you won’t give Trump a pass…why?

            We can agree that Obama sucked unlike you I listen to the enemy very closely.

      • seawolf77 August 16, 2017 at 9:25 am #

        The problem with white America is white America. That whole salt of the earth line of crap that’s as old as cheeseburgers. Give it up. 1950’s America is gone, is never coming back, and wasn’t all that great anyway.

        • benr August 16, 2017 at 3:43 pm #

          It was far better than now.
          So was the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s in fact the early 2000 era wasn’t to bad but what we have now is a train wreck of idiots.
          Antifa is looking for blood and BLM to a lessor degree is as well.

          • GaiaCracker August 17, 2017 at 11:21 am #

            BLM is not looking for blood. Sheesh. Neither is Antifa, unless it is Neo Nazis. If you want someone to blame that isn’t on the right, go ahead and blame the neoliberals. It is their policies, with support from the conservatives, that have lead to the economic mess we are in. Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton are a good start for finger pointing. As far as the cultural backlash going on, some of it is justified, but some of it is way over the top (you know, as Greer says, the opposite of a really bad idea is often a really bad idea), and simply serves as a recruitment tool for people like you into fascist ideology.

    • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 11:01 am #

      The police kept the two groups apart and this required much pepper spray and loud explosions to keep the Citizens against Hate group from kicking Trump patriot ass.

      Seems like you’d agree that it’s anti-Trump protestors (or anti-pro-Trump protestors) bringing the violence. In the sickening video of the car running people down in Chancellorsville, when the car stops after hitting people it’s immediately set upon by bat- and club-wielding people who break its rear window.

      The police ought to have arrested EVERY person brandishing such a weapon, Nazi and Antifa alike.

      • uslabor August 14, 2017 at 11:16 am #

        As if attacking a car with sticks is equivalent to assaulting a group of people with a speeding Dodge Charger. Dr, your racist Unite the White stripes are showing.

        • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 11:35 am #

          How did baseball bats and clubs become “sticks”? They seemed to be pretty prevalent, wouldn’t you agree?

          I’d imagine that that young man driving the car is going to go away to prison for quite a while. If he intentionally drove through the crowd to kill people, I would understand the state of Virginia executing him, though I might prefer long-term lockup.

          If, by contrast, he had a gang of people pounding on his car before he drove away in a panic, would you consider that a mitigating circumstance? Or would you prefer he become a new Reginald Denny? What’s your thinking here?

          Oh, wait: you’d rather call me a racist than agree that disarming large, riotous crowds is a proper role for police.

          • uslabor August 14, 2017 at 11:53 am #

            Okay, not sticks, but baseball bats, and AFTER the racist plowed his car into the crowd of peope, killing one and injuring many more.

            Yeah, I would have preferred him to become the New, Improved Reginald Denny, beat to within an inch of his life by white folks, just like himself, than to see him injure all the people he did. Yeah, I would have preferred that, and yeah, I do think you must be a racist, too, dr.

          • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 6:53 pm #

            Okay, not sticks, but baseball bats, and AFTER the racist plowed his car into the crowd of people, killing one and injuring many more.

            You forget he was also on those psychoactive drugs, too. Anyone depraved enough to adhere to a defunct ideology like National Socialism already has signs of mental illness. Good thing you’re not letting that issue cloud your judgment about him. I’ve yet to see video of what was happening around his car before the murderous/manslaughterous drive.

            Yeah, I would have preferred him to become the New, Improved Reginald Denny, beat to within an inch of his life by white folks, just like himself, than to see him injure all the people he did.
            Would you also make that choice if surrounded by a crowd of “Nazis” who were threatening you? Just to be consistent, of course. Unless, of course, those “Nazis” aren’t people? If so, you remind me of the Catholic priest who preferred not to fight off and kill a hypothetical mugger, since killing a criminal in that state would mean sending him to hell. That’s admirable.

            yeah, I do think you must be a racist, too, dr.
            Oh, wait, you’re clairvoyant! You’d never get into a situation like the one I mentioned. Can you also share a stock tip?

      • elysianfield August 14, 2017 at 11:33 am #

        “The police ought to have arrested EVERY person brandishing such a weapon, Nazi and Antifa alike.”

        It was, at one time, illegal in California to wear a mask in a public place. I have spent time in riot formation, and believe, to this day, that any protester involved in a demonstration wearing a mask should be targeted with rubber bullets and bean-bags…given one warning and then dropped immediately.


        • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 11:40 am #

          Do police still act like that in the face of crowds in the USA? The protests against Trump at the inauguration didn’t become violent like this. Maybe because it was Federal police who didn’t have to worry about DoJ looking over their shoulders?

          • elysianfield August 14, 2017 at 12:18 pm #

            Dr. Tom,
            Police do what they are told to do by higher authority. Mask wearers do so for very few legitimate reasons. Police are directed into crowds (usually) only after red lines, clearly delineated, have been crossed. Lay the blame for violence at the feet of civil authority who make the decisions.

            “Do police still act like that in the face of crowds in the USA”

            Well, human nature has not changed in the last 50 odd years, and neither has effective methods of crowd control. Spend some time in these “dynamic environments” and watch sausage being made.

            I cannot remember, even once, considering the DOJ in the midst of one of these events. The mind is focused elsewhere….

          • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 6:55 pm #

            Thanks for the view inside the bubble, EF.

            I get that most police have a commitment to order, and order is what’s needed. Large gangs going around with clubs, mace, and guns is not a good situation. Perhaps they needed more police overall.

            One young woman would still be alive, I think.

          • seawolf77 August 16, 2017 at 9:23 am #

            I’m from New Orleans. Before every major parade they run a herd of heavily armed motorcycle cops down the main drag for all to see. That is a deterrent. An army of cops.

        • benr August 15, 2017 at 8:25 pm #


      • sophia August 14, 2017 at 5:25 pm #

        Why? No right to self defense?

        • sophia August 14, 2017 at 5:26 pm #

          Wait, I retract that.

      • benr August 15, 2017 at 8:23 pm #

        I saw video that showed people attacking that car prior to him running into people!
        And yes if you get stopped and swamped it is very easy to pull someone out of a car and beat them to death.
        I also hear first hand how Antifa had water balloons full of urine/poop, paint and various chemicals they hurled at the other side.
        The alt right march was largely peaceful until these events.
        Antifa and BLM always resort to violence which is odd because they have become and are using the type of tactics as the fascist types they claim to abhor.
        We become that which we hate!

    • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 1:24 pm #

      Kdog is now under the influence of racist, Anti-White ideas because he went to said protest yesterday. It will take half a week before he is half way rational again.

      • K-Dog August 15, 2017 at 9:40 am #

        I was not there. We know somebody who was working downtown and she called to tell us she was hearing explosions. That caused me to turn on the news. I was at home 12 miles away.

        Why do you say I was there. Had I been there I’d have been the first to say so. The recordings of ‘Cop and Clan Hand in Hand’ was in a local news report. Check your video. I think you have me confused with someone else.

        • K-Dog August 15, 2017 at 9:46 am #

          Or check the tracking records on my phone.

          • ozone August 15, 2017 at 10:18 am #

            Good one, K-dog.
            They must be very busy little minions to have missed that in these days of confused loyalties, insubordinate leakers and various other traitors to the Internal Warfare and Intelligence State. I had thought the “reap what you sow” stuff never applied to the minion-folk; wha’ happen?

        • ozone August 15, 2017 at 10:00 am #

          vladdie said yu wuz there just to be polite and infer (politely) that you’re a hater of melanin-challenged folk.
          (We might ask why he wasn’t in attendance to support his melanin-challenged brethren and sisteren down Charlottesville-way. Would that be polite?)

    • sophia August 14, 2017 at 5:50 pm #

      K Dog,

      You don’t come around to Greer’s blog any more, and he has retooled it, but I think you and y’all ought to go read his week before this one post called “Hate is the new sex”


      • K-Dog August 15, 2017 at 9:44 am #

        Thank you sophia. JMG was timely with that missive.

      • K-Dog August 15, 2017 at 10:24 am #

        Greer did his usual ten thousand word column I see. Considering brevity is the soul of wit he could do better if his pieces were shorter and more to the point. but that would not be Greer.

        He exploited a similarity as the ‘Love Trumps Hate’ crowd are all out there hating as we know; but hate and sex are really not comparable.

        For most people! For some it is indeed pretty much the same but I’m not writing here about freaks.

        Before Trump there was hate and after Trump there will be hate. The significant thing is that hating Trump became acceptable because he is an outlier and was not supposed to win. Hence for a while hating him is fine within some groups because hate is used to enforce social boundaries.

        Both hate and sex have been around for a very long time and were they to vanish sex would have to go first.

        Sex was ‘hated’ because the celebration of sex as we know it was impossible in a world without birth control. To get all to comply with having babies at the appropriate time and with the appropriate people sex had to be demonized. Also all venereal disease was once like AIDS, incurable so demonizing sex was also a health issue.

        Greer went on and on about sex being ‘hated’ in Victorian times but the truth is people were hating on other people who they saw as rule breakers. The idea of a common social standard was reasonable to earlier times. For them all we needed to do was to to tear down the tower of babble and get there. Having god’s word told to all the ‘ignorant savages’ they could find was a big part of that mission and finding fault with people who don’t toe the line was another big part. Some things never change.

        They were not hating on sex itself though naturally the dim totally confused the issues so there are plenty of instances and situations which can be quoted to show me wrong. But that would be missing my point.

        Greer saw a similarity and ran with it. I see another. The very people who are trying to re-define sexual orientation are like modern day Victorians in that they think they can legislate morality and humans behavior just as the Victorians tried to do.


        • sophia August 16, 2017 at 10:18 pm #

          Hmm, not all societies in older eras were repressed about sex. You’ve got some good points, though, about the need for greater regulation without birth control.
          So he’s saying that there are certain ways in which societies behave when they are repressing and not being honest about certain human feelings that you can’t legislate ought not to exist. Right now it’s hate, and yet those very people do a lot of hating, just as the Victorians often had their sexual outlets.

  3. shotho August 14, 2017 at 9:35 am #

    My answer to your question is that the financial collapse upon us will be the catalyst for widespread civil disorder, as the underpinning of our degradation will disappear. The result, I think, will be resurgent nihilism, survival of the fittest with little regard for God or man.

    • K-Dog August 14, 2017 at 9:50 am #

      The ‘fit’ will be concerning themselves with their lives and own personal business and staying away from the emotional release of frothing at the mouth angry crowds be they the hating crowds of crowd of white identity politics or the hating against hate crowd screaming out.

      “Cops and clan hand in hand. Cops and clan hand in hand. Cops and clan hand in hand….”

      To which I hope that any young black man pulled over by the police while driving anywhere in America anytime soon will keep their hands on the wheel, be polite and do what they are told. Copping of attitudes for changing of lanes without signaling or any other legitimate concern of the police by which they may want to find out what people are up to and doing is not a political act or a line in the sand that has to be crossed.

      • elysianfield August 14, 2017 at 11:38 am #

        “To which I hope that any young black man pulled over by the police while driving ”

        I’m sure your hope extends to young men of all races?

        • K-Dog August 14, 2017 at 11:48 am #

          It does!

  4. teddyboy46 August 14, 2017 at 9:49 am #

    I would like to thank JHK, For explaining this mess all i have been seeing on tv is ” it is all Trumps fault’.

    If I may throw my 2 cents in. What we saw this weekend in VA. started with Reagan in 1980 when he go in bed with the Religious Right for votes[pun intended]. So over the past 37 years we have witnessed this weird melding of Politics and Religion that has resulted in Conservative Justice Warriors who defend their Political Beliefs with a Religious Zeal.

    This is also an expression of the Anger that elected Trump. People realizing how they have been screwed by the Financial System they believed in and now have nothing. We are going to be seeing alot more of this.

    • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 10:59 am #

      Reagan did the first Amnesty.
      That was the beginning of the end.

      No border, No nation.

      • uslabor August 14, 2017 at 11:21 am #

        So, go get a job picking lettuce.

        • JimInFlorida August 14, 2017 at 12:48 pm #

          When the wages go up to where they should be, then you’ll see Americans picking lettuce. For that matter, the price of lettuce will go up to its proper level.

          Cheap lettuce carries a very high cost. Those costs hidden in free medical care for immigrants, disruption of the White social fabric, welfare benefits, anchor babies, disconnecting Americans from understanding where their food comes from, and moral tragedy as cheap imported labor is abused.

          If migrant labor is not respected and paid properly, then what’s to stop the abuse of all other domestic wage-labor? Thirty-six years of Reaganomics has spawned a malicious contempt for labor and the plummeting standards of living prove it.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 1:27 pm #

          Labor used to be against illegal immigrants since they destroy the very modus operandi of the strike. But Big Labor has sold out just like everyone else, hence your inane comment.

          Illegals are scabs, you idiot.

      • outsider August 14, 2017 at 7:55 pm #

        No, malthuss, “the beginning of the end” was the passage of the Hart-Celler Immigration Act of 1965. It opened the floodgates to millions of unskilled from the Third World so that business could keep labor costs down and outrageously increase their profits. The front man for this tragedy was the old drunkard Teddy K – the “Lion of the Senate.”

    • thenuttyneutron August 14, 2017 at 4:42 pm #


      I would extend this description to most of America. People are in pain and pissed off. These people are in a vulnerable existence and will listen to any charlatan that appears to have any interest or concern for them. These charlatans are fanning the flames of anger and bringing what used to be a simmering cauldron of emotions to a rolling boil of violent outbursts.

      The problem is that people don’t know who to be angry at and are lashing out at the wrong people! Keep in mind that this is happening during the “good times”. What the hell if going to go down if people are hungry? How are people going to keep their composure when they have children incessantly crying due to hunger pains?

      • outsider August 14, 2017 at 8:07 pm #

        Who are the “charlatans” anyway? Richard Spencer? David Duke? If one goes to the trouble of actually listening to what they say, instead of writing them off based on media propaganda, you might find that their world view makes more sense than anything spewing forth from the DC swamps – or academia for that matter.

    • sophia August 14, 2017 at 5:53 pm #

      Always do a 180 on the media. If they say it’s all Trump’s fault, it means it was the opposition’s fault. His opposition will stop at almost nothing. Since I am not at all allergic to conspiracy theories, I would not be surprised.

    • Q. Shtik August 15, 2017 at 12:19 am #

      when he go in bed with the Religious Right for votes[pun intended]. -teddyboy46


      Teddy, I’m not sure you understand what a pun is…try Googling “what is a pun.”

      I don’t see any pun in what you’ve written.

  5. MrTibbs August 14, 2017 at 9:54 am #

    Globalist George Soros is a primary funding source for the “antifa” movement.

    The growing population of miscreants incapable of producing for themselves is a great resource for George and the gang, and may be purchased for modest sums.

    In the larger context, the conflict serves as a diversion to the accelerating corruption of the globalists.

    The stand down orders directed to the Charlotteslville police were issued by corrupted politicians, starting with the mayor, and issued by governor Terry McAuliffe.

    Y = career politicians x career lobbyists x globalist mainstream media x career unelected Deep State bureaucrats x Hollywood elites x unprosecuted corruption x globalist banking cartels x globalist technocrats

    “God integrates empirically.” -Albert Einstein.

    Y = old republic NETWORK globalism = THE SWAMP.


    They Call Me Mr. Tibbs

    • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 11:00 am #

      They Call Me Mr. Tibbs–why do they call you that?

      • Q. Shtik August 15, 2017 at 12:20 am #

        And furthermore, who is “they?”

  6. ozone August 14, 2017 at 9:55 am #

    Excellent observations this week; thanks for putting some comic bite into the tragic circumstances.

    Two things:
    This is why I’d *prefer* that financial collapse to be the first portion of the Long Emergency to sweep this benighted land, because only then would we realize some of our COMMON predicaments. As much as some of the posters on this very comment section would like, a civil war (y’know, like lots and lots of killin’) over these really stupid “issues” is the most foolish exercise in flexing the reptile-brain that I could imagine. — Unless we’re simply wishing for a handy way to reduce the population, supposedly resulting in larger pie-slices…

    The second thing is that this kind of eventuality (shithead-on-shithead violence on a *newsworthy* scale) plays right into the hands of those wishing for a reason for a Big Crackdown, curtailing even more of the “inalienable” rights. (We’ll probably get to witness just how “alienable” they might really be… as the Cheney-Bush regime to the present day hath shewn.)

    • ozone August 14, 2017 at 10:04 am #

      …*it* is the most…

    • Mountain gal August 14, 2017 at 10:25 am #

      I think that many who wish for a civil war and that sort of collapse tend to believe that they are smarter than the average dude and that they and theirs will survive and thrive. Someone I know who espouses the notion that we are overpopulated and that 1 in 3 needs to “go” has never stopped to consider that there is absolutely no guarantee that he or his loved ones will be among those who survive. But that’s human nature I guess……

      • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 10:38 am #

        wishin and hopin and thinkin and prayin.

      • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 11:06 am #

        There’s a certain wish for the solidarity that grows out of hard times, and that’s perfectly understandable. When Superstorm Sandy knocked out power to our area in 2012, I had a blast going around helping neighbors, securing gasoline, being my own little electric company off a generator I managed to buy before they were all sold out.

        It was the same with a lot of the men in the neighborhood, white and hispanic alike. No crime, no bitching: just DO, don’t think.

        I think most women and children would be terrorized by a civil war, justly so. For a significant number of men it would be the most alive they’ve ever felt. I refer you to Sebastian Junger’s book Tribe, where he interviews people who survived the civil war in Bosnia who miss those times.

        • Mountain gal August 14, 2017 at 12:34 pm #

          Agreed. This friend I mention believes that he would be finally recognized for what he has to contribute as opposed to how badly he has fared economically and otherwise in our current society. I think he has a lot of company; men who haven’t done well in our modern times but think they would do well come Armageddon or some variation thereof when their “gifts” would finally be recongized. And as a woman, anarchy with violent sorts armed with weapons has little appeal…..

          • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 9:30 pm #

            It’s natural to the male side of mankind, MG. Most men can never be the heroes of science or programming or,the other heroic opportunities of late LongEmergency society. But a small amount of chaos? Each man can set some order to that.

            Creating such small chaos without setting the whole society ablaze is the challenge.

        • Beryl of Oyl August 14, 2017 at 12:36 pm #

          That’s interesting.

          I met a woman who did very dangerous work during WWII. In speaking briefly with her, I got the sense that her work then, was the time of her life.
          I think it has to do with a sense of purpose, and not just purpose, but a sense of duty as well.
          Nobody thinks about duty anymore.

          • Mountain gal August 14, 2017 at 12:53 pm #

            Yes, I understand the need for a sense of purpose. I’m just saying that I think there are a lot of people, mostly men, who just aren’t making it in today’s America(or for that matter any of the ME or African countries) so they welcome anarchy and disruption or join ISIS in an attempt to be “a man” or what they think a man is. They’re not going to earn millions coding for google or something so instead they become a Nazi.

        • outsider August 14, 2017 at 8:20 pm #

          I know what you and Junger mean, Dr Tom. Sad to say, the only time in my life that I really felt alive for an extended period was when the Army sent me off for good times in Europe – 45 years ago. If I wasn’t so old, I’d be ready to start rockin’ & rollin’ on the streets with the boys myself. Life in the multi-cultural USA is madness.

    • DA August 14, 2017 at 10:26 am #

      Agreed and nicely put. To turn it on its head: might the current social disturbances even be at least loosely engineered by those who know that a financial collapse is in the offing (possibly even engineered as well)? Worth considering, whether or not you go in for conspiracies.

      • K-Dog August 14, 2017 at 10:43 am #

        So you think TPTB could be using their control over American media to manipulate us for their own evil ends?

        Perish the thought. Our leaders are kind and thoughtful and would never do anything to hurt us. They will gladly put aside their self interest for the long term public good. People go into politics to serve the public for exactly that reason and are good people.

        My third grade teacher told me this years ago. I have it on good authority.

        • DA August 14, 2017 at 10:50 am #

          Yep. Even harder to believe that most people still go in for that kind of thing, isn’t it?

          Good book: https://www.amazon.com/Lies-My-Teacher-Told-Everything/dp/0743296281

          • My Point of View August 14, 2017 at 11:17 am #

            DA, I read Loewen’s book “Lies Across America” and found it fascinating.

            I got quite a laugh about the Daughters of the Confederacy (DOTC) placing their idiotic monuments all over the nation even in states / territories that never sent a single soldier to join the rebel army, i.e., Montana Territory.

            Though history is mostly written by the victors, the DOTC tried their best. I’m sure they’d be agog at the thought of removing a statue of Robert E. Lee from the town square in Charlottesville, VA, where the Army of Northern Virginia so proudly marched off to war … too bad any of them survived Gettysburg.


          • DA August 14, 2017 at 12:22 pm #

            The American Civil War left much deeper scars on all sides of the divide than we were ever able to admit and it continues to haunt us still. The fact that we’re a culture of victims now (some of it legitimate, some of it entirely specious) certainly doesn’t help things either. Civil War 2.0 promises to be a rollicking wild ride for all on board.

        • RocketDoc August 14, 2017 at 11:40 am #

          “So if all do their duty they will come to no harm” -W. Blake
          Songs of Innocence and Experience
          To paraphrase an old saying- You might not be interested in politics but politics is interested in you. Demonstrations strike me as counterproductive political action. I didn’t think that as a Vietnam War protestor in the 70s when I saw half a million young people in the street but it’s the lazy man’s way of political change. Its a media celebrity event rather than a political argument about something. It “signifies” and is just a Rorschach test for hate.

          • sophia August 14, 2017 at 6:04 pm #

            Baloney. The right to peaceably assemble. To have one’s grievances heard.

        • Beryl of Oyl August 14, 2017 at 12:37 pm #

          Notice they don’t tell third graders anything about civics anymore.

      • ozone August 14, 2017 at 11:05 am #

        DA, Absolutely plausible.

        K-dog. LOL. 🙂

    • TiredOfTheTreadmill August 14, 2017 at 1:14 pm #

      I agree with your assessment ozone. One reason I would like the financial collapse to occur first is that it is the cause of many of the “issues” causing the current anger. If the root cause for much of this divisiveness goes away, maybe people will awaken to the real problems we face. Maybe.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 1:30 pm #

      So in other words, any White who protests on behalf of his People is a reptilian, limbic mouth breather?

      • sophia August 14, 2017 at 6:08 pm #

        But you might consider that with your opinions on things, you’re a bitr of a sitting duck for unnecessarily contributing to the type of general conflagration that may indeed be getting promoted behind the scenes by the elites. Don’t contribute to divide and conquer.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 7:45 pm #

          Again you are way off: we are already hopelessly divided. And the divided need to separate, not stay together. Or are you a Catholic who doesn’t believe in divorce.

          If Liberals (Communists) wanted it all to work, they would have never made Whites 2nd class citizens and tried to take away our rights. But they did and there’s no going back.

          • sophia August 14, 2017 at 11:45 pm #

            Sigh. Not sure about all that. The thing is, we’re stuck with each other, and was it people like you who thought it was a great idea to rob Africa of her people and bring them here? We made our bed and now should figure out how to live with it.

            You have said you want an ocean between. Well, there was one. But now there ain’t, and whose fault is that?

            I’m not a Catholic, but a true Gnostic.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 1:29 am #

            Rob Africa of her people? That’s rich considering they’re spreading like locusts. You do know that they came from all over Africa to sneak into the racist state of South Africa, right? Where their numbers quadrupled in fifty years? Likewise they thrived in America. Being brought here was the best thing that ever happened to them – and the worst for us.

            And btw: very few Americans owned slaves. Of course you think the White Race has to die because of it. You are only beginning your journey out of Liberalism. You have a long, long way to go before you reach the Truth. Again, we can’t live with them unless we are on top. Otherwise they will seek to destroy us. If it was going to work, it already would have. We are just too different.

  7. Walter B August 14, 2017 at 9:56 am #

    If the way to take a bridge is to attack both ends at the same time, then the way to destroy a society is to assault it from every possible aspect, every angle, every segment of that society simultaneously as well as without. I am certain that we all remember those who started this nation writing that the corruption would begin in the cities, the urban areas, where corruption quickly becomes the rule of law(less), and then spreads outward. This nation, this system is rotting and collapsing from within, and also from without and if it all does not simply burst into flames shortly a lot of us out here will be scratching our heads and wondering WTF is keeping it from not doing so.

    Anyone who whines about all of this not being positive enough or more upbeat should attack me here with proofs that viable corrective solutions have been put forth somewhere that I have missed before they simply try to wish is all better with happy thoughts and unicorn spoor. I see nothing on any horizon that even purports itself as improvement, solutions, or even a better way. Nobody really cares, no one is doing anything to correct it and it has absolutely zero possibility of getting anything but worse before it dies, sorry. But heck, why be so glum when football season is just about to begin, right? That or some other bread and circuses distraction should make it all better, right? .

    • DA August 14, 2017 at 10:28 am #

      Sing it loud Brother Walt!

    • GhostOfHam August 14, 2017 at 4:20 pm #

      If a man living alone in a house built near or on a fault line returns to his house some morning and sees his home in disarray and in ramshackle he could assume that his house had collapsed during the time he was away. After all, he says to himself: everyone has been telling me for decades that someday the fault will slip, cause an earthquake, and so destroy my house, my home.” This becomes the normalcy bias. People gossip about it and auto-confirm it in rumor. He comes to expect the long “arc of” natural “history” to collapse upon him. Yet when the man approaches his house’s entrance he finds that someone has sealed the still-attached front door, so he enters into his home via a broken side window. To the person’s dismay he finds that everything under the picked-though detritus of his house has been stolen — all his patents, all accoutrements, his property, all his production, and all his privacy has been stolen or attached and noted and titled as the property of another person. He collapses to his knees, looks back out the window and notices his neighbors’ home in the same condition as his, and he realizes that the collapse narrative and rumor which he believed (loved) was a preliminary conditioning to the advancement of the greatest criminal fraud and theft of wealth in human history.

    • messianicdruid August 14, 2017 at 7:21 pm #

      My wife’s advice, “If you don’t listen to it, you don’t have to think about it.”

  8. dantesque August 14, 2017 at 9:57 am #

    I dunno. Nazi salutes and armed militias for chrissakes. Suggesting that it’s the natural result of 20 years of social justice sabre rattling towards white hetero men… maybe that’s part of it, but isn’t that just as bad as giving a pass to inner city gang culture because well… the environment made them do it?

    As for the “antifas”, I can’t think of anything more ironic and dangerous. Except, well, actual fascists. Those of us against extremism in all its forms, who still believe in free speech (yes even for these inbred neo-nazis) and anti-violence gotta stand up and be heard.

    • RIB August 14, 2017 at 10:13 am #

      “the environment making them do it ” is a nebulous rationale that can’t be compared to the non-stop verbal denegration of whites, especially white males.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 1:35 pm #

      Were the Founding Fathers “extremists”? The Zionists who conquered Israel and drove out the natives? Gandhi? A mother who goes without sleep tending her sick child? Geniuses who stay up all night working?

      News flash: all great thing require extremism. America wasn’t created without it and won’t be saved without it either.

      Fascism means Nationalism. And even the gods fight ignorance without final success.

      • seawolf77 August 15, 2017 at 8:47 am #

        Say what you will about national socialism, at least it was an ethos.

  9. venuspluto67 August 14, 2017 at 9:59 am #

    Well, you may not like homosexuals being out of the proverbial closet now, but an American fascist reich of either the religious or classical European variety is the only way that particularly genie could be stuffed back into the bottle. And I would hope that the huge and unerasable blood-stain this would leave on the fabric of American society is something you really wouldn’t want. That said, I also become disheartened when I see what started out as the “gay lib” movement of the early seventies becoming prey to what John Michael Greer termed The Rescue Game.

    • RIB August 14, 2017 at 10:16 am #

      “Huge and unerasable blood-stain.?” Actually stuffing back into the closetr instead of back into the bottle would be a more appropriate analogy. (and far less bloody btw)

    • K-Dog August 14, 2017 at 10:19 am #

      Perhaps a resurgent morality of a hard work, no war, pro environment mindset would help. This is only a thought experiment since America has shipped the opportunity to be normal overseas along with its jobs but the problem of the crazies coming out would not be happening if traditional values were widely held.

      There is a vacuum in America and the vacuum is being filled with insanity. The worship of self fuels the insanity and this worship has pervaded America for decades. It will be a long time sadly before a resurgent morality could take root so unfortunately corn-pone Nazis is what we will get instead.

      “This is how tribal and religious wars start in primitive societies.”

      It will take a long time before reason can save us. America has gone primitive and can’t concentrate on what matters.

    • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 10:44 am #

      American fascist reich –you mean like Dearborn, Michigan?
      That Christian nazi hell hole?

      • venuspluto67 August 14, 2017 at 11:02 am #

        Nice attempt at diversion. I am fan of no sort of theocratic mindset, and I find the Muslim version especially alarming as it is more likely to spark violent vigilantism (as is currently taking place in many European countries with large numbers of Muslim immigrants).

        • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 1:37 pm #

          Kudos for your rationality. But Gays like teenage boys and they were always intent on changing society. Read Harry Hay. The anger against NAMBLA was for their lack of prudence and political saavy – nothing more.

          • benr August 15, 2017 at 8:40 pm #

            Hell look no further than Harvey Milk if you don’t know the story research it the truth is very disturbing.

        • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 3:04 pm #

          Many of the mussies that want to destroy White EU are 2nd and 3rd generation, not immigrants. WAKE UP.

          Like the Mexican neighbor, she was 33? and a grandma.
          Her sprog was 14 and a mom.
          Unassimilated, speaking Spanish. Criminals.

  10. Graycenphil August 14, 2017 at 10:08 am #

    Excellent column. I still think Mr. Kunstler is wrong about the Long Emergency coming, but that doesn’t mean he’s wrong about everything. His original and well articulated thoughts are the reason I keep reading him.

    Thanks JHK.

    • K-Dog August 14, 2017 at 10:23 am #

      Oh you mean because the long emergency is happening right now. You are right about that. The long emergency is ‘not coming’ and is already here.

      Thanks Graycenphil.

      • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 10:47 am #

        When the Dow crashes and China cashes its bonds?

        • Graycenphil August 14, 2017 at 10:58 am #

          I’ve been hearing that predictions about the stock market and the Chiinese for a long time too. So far, they’ve all been wrong.

          • venuspluto67 August 14, 2017 at 11:04 am #

            Thank the big central banks that have been firehosing the financial markets with frantically-printed cash since late 2008. 🙂

          • K-Dog August 14, 2017 at 11:31 am #

            The thing about you is that a long time is anything longer than 5 minutes. That is what makes you crazy.

          • benr August 15, 2017 at 8:50 pm #

            “Thank the big central banks that have been firehosing the financial markets with frantically-printed cash since late 2008.

            Yea that is exactly why a burger fries and a coke now cost upwards of $9 dollars and rising.
            Add in ridiculous minimum wage crap and they have shrunk the working class.
            Flipping burgers gets almost $15 and administering to a large computer network is topping out at 20 – 30 an hour.
            One takes a lot of schooling reading and skill and the other can take a couple of weeks of practice! Insanity!

      • Graycenphil August 14, 2017 at 10:54 am #

        No, you’re wrong, again, K-Dog. It’s not happening now, just like it wasn’t happening 10 years ago or 5 years ago. And I’m pretty sure it won’t be happening in 5 years or 10 years or 50 years either. We’ll dove our racial problems, and our energy problems, and we’ll be okay.

        • K-Dog August 14, 2017 at 11:33 am #

          Could you please stand downwind while you take a piss. I really don’t have time for your nonsense.

          • Graycenphil August 14, 2017 at 12:45 pm #

            K-Dog, after all your facts turned out to be wrong, I have to wonder, at what point will you reconsider your conclusions?

          • K-Dog August 14, 2017 at 2:45 pm #

            What facts are you referring too. I have not put out any. Smear me before I even assert anything and tell me I’m wrong when I have not put any facts forward to argue about. You are a despicable trickster.

          • Graycenphil August 14, 2017 at 4:37 pm #

            K-Dog, have you forgotten already? I’m thinking of all the facts you got wrong in the last session: price of gas in th ’70s, price gas today, cost of energy, cost of electric cars,etc, etc. Then there was the bit about needing a charging station, but not being able to buy a charging station. Amazing – you were wrong twice in one statement.

            Those are the kinds of false beliefs that lead you to false conclusions. And then name calling.

          • K-Dog August 14, 2017 at 10:35 pm #

            My my your peanut gallery is busy. You did not mention that facts you want to quibble about were from last week. And you are presenting them distorted. I’m not interested but I will say that installing a 220 VAC. connection is beyond the ability of most homeowners so yes they will have to pay to have it installed. Further while it may not be illegal for an average person to buy a charging station it may be difficult to get one for LIABLITY reasons. A seller is not going to comfortably sell one to someone who is not an electrician and who they do not know. I know of one person who had to try twice before he was able to get his charging station and it was not cheap. Gas prices were dealt with last week loser. Maybe you need to reread the transcript.

            Have some more respect for our host. He wrote something to comment on this week and you are stuck in last week. Move on.

            It is rare for any ‘facts’ I put out to be wrong because mine come from reality. I only deal with reality as much as is humanly possible and that is something you can’t say.

          • K-Dog August 14, 2017 at 10:37 pm #

            A dispicable liar.

          • Graycenphil August 17, 2017 at 4:03 pm #

            K-Dog, how can you be so consistently wrong? I did mention that he facts were from the last session, which was last week. You were wrong last week and you’re wrong this week.

            We did deal with the gas question last week; you still didn’t pay 17 cents in the ’70s, even though, as you say, you painted your car brown. I have no idea why you think that would prove how much you paid for gas, but I’m not surprised you tried.

            Most will pay to have a 240 volt line installed; I said they could. But you also said you needed a charging station (wrong) and that you could not buy one (wrong). There is no shortage of companies waiting to sell you one. It is not difficult; you pay them and they give it to you. There is no liability issue.

            You are not entitled to your own reality; your facts are just plain wrong. Nobody needs a charging station for their electric car, anyone who wants one can buy one, gas is not almost $4 a gallon and you didn’t pay 17 cents in the ’70s. You may have painted your car brown, but I’m even beginning to doubt that.

        • Q. Shtik August 15, 2017 at 12:35 am #

          We’ll dove our racial problems, and our energy problems, and we’ll be okay. – Graycenphil


          It took me awhile to figure out that dove means solve.

          • Graycenphil August 19, 2017 at 10:36 pm #

            Yes, my apologies. If there’s away to edit on here, I haven’t figured it out.

  11. RIB August 14, 2017 at 10:19 am #

    Lost in all this is the fact that Mr. Kim is allegedly planning to drop his warheads just outside US territorial waters. That’s a hell of a lot more important than this LGBTQQ bullshit

    • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 10:51 am #

      Not to the SJWs.

    • venuspluto67 August 14, 2017 at 10:56 am #

      What’s funny and ironic about this otherwise ignorant comment is that it brings to mind JMG’s companion-piece article to the one I linked above, Starhawking The Privelege Game.

  12. hmuller August 14, 2017 at 10:21 am #

    There are two kinds of right-wing supremacists – the beer guzzling bigoted Bubba’s and the FBI undercover operatives who lead them.

    There are 2 kinds of left-wing extremists – the SJW true believer snowflakes and the Soros funded agents who lead the.

    Are the Powers That Be deliberately trying to rip apart American society to make way for their globalist Orwellian state?

    • K-Dog August 14, 2017 at 10:26 am #

      Actually the FBI is involved in leading both sides and will offer to get explosives for anybody who wants them.

      • SpeedyBB August 17, 2017 at 8:23 pm #

        You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. Such a desperately serious topic and you’re giving me the sniggers.

        (Can I say that?)

        Agent provocateur is probably the second-oldest profession.

        • SpeedyBB August 17, 2017 at 8:26 pm #

          My fave meme on the tactic is “Let’s you and him fight.”

    • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 10:43 am #

      USA has already been ripped apart, nimrod.

      • K-Dog August 14, 2017 at 11:35 am #

        Popping buttons right off the stretched out pockets of America’s overstuffed blue jeans we are.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 1:40 pm #

      Dumb comment. Look at he men in the torch march: no beer bellies here. That’s why they hate Spencer and Duke: Quality Men who give a lie to your stereotype.

      • Beryl of Oyl August 14, 2017 at 2:20 pm #

        They looked suspiciously similar in appearance to me.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 3:14 pm #

          Yeah, they’re White and manly. Your hatred and bigotry are showing. Racist against your own people or just a generic man hater?

          • seawolf77 August 15, 2017 at 8:45 am #

            White and manly? Are you for real?

    • outsider August 14, 2017 at 9:04 pm #

      Hmuller asks: “Are TPTB deliberately trying to rip apart American society to make way for their globalist Orwellian state?”

      Since it has already destroyed much of Western Europe, perhaps the Kalergi Plan is now working hard to bring down the USA.

  13. tahoe1780 August 14, 2017 at 10:27 am #

    “The LGBTQQ movement, an offshoot of Feminism 3.0, seeks to erase biology itself as applied to human mammalian sexuality, at the same time that it wants to create new special social and political entitlements — based on various categories of sexual desire that they insist are biologically-driven, such as the urge of a man to equip himself via surgery to behave like a woman. ” You have to wonder how much of this is driven by by our polluted environment.





    • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 10:44 am #


      • tahoe1780 August 14, 2017 at 6:05 pm #

        Cropdusting https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5044953/

        • sophia August 14, 2017 at 6:27 pm #

          And let’s not only focus on actual poisons. The food people are eating is processed, denatured, lacking in minerals, raised in cruelty and unnatural diets, homogenized, hydrogenated and lacking in freshness and variety.

    • michael August 14, 2017 at 4:26 pm #

      I know (or believe I know) what “LBGT” stands for but what does “QQ”

      • sophia August 14, 2017 at 6:23 pm #

        Heh. I was wondering. The first Q stands for queer and I am supposing the second means that it is an ongoing sequence.

      • Q. Shtik August 14, 2017 at 8:47 pm #

        Q Shtik squared.

  14. amb August 14, 2017 at 10:29 am #

    These are the same indicators of a diseased and dying culture that Rome and every other previously failed empire exhibited before they became extinct. The game has always been, and remains, that one person builds something and another tears it down.

    • beantownbill. August 14, 2017 at 10:58 am #

      Yes, but so what? The game will continue as it always has, just with new players. Why get upset? Just put in the effort to survive as long as you can. Isn’t that the essence of life?

      • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 1:42 pm #

        Beans show his loyalty to America once again. Israel is where it’s at for this boy chic.

        • beantownbill. August 14, 2017 at 3:42 pm #

          I was born an American and I will die an

          • beantownbill. August 14, 2017 at 3:52 pm #

            … American. I am a believer in liberty and freedom, which are supposed to be the core values of Americans. BTW, the name is boychik, one word. You are not a knowledable Jew, are you?

          • seawolf77 August 15, 2017 at 11:46 am #

            “Thank God I’ll die an American.”
            The Butcher

      • sophia August 14, 2017 at 6:24 pm #

        In light of the comment you made above, I find this one rather callous.

  15. Pucker August 14, 2017 at 10:29 am #

    The Political Correctness Movement is basically a totalitarian ideology which espouses a belief that Reality (Gender, Race, Biology, and material limits) can be overcome by sheer Will and enforced Dogma which can “Transform” people and society. It is preoccupied with “transformation”, particularly with transformation of the individual (transgenderism, denial of age limits in espousing sex education for 4 year old kids, etc.) which is the supreme value over society. Basically, Political Correctness is the 180 degree antithesis of Nati..onal So,,,..ialism, except for the totali,,Tatian Utopianism. Like all Utopian movements it will end in complete disaster. In the EU, its geographic heartland is Germany. Go figure….

    • K-Dog August 14, 2017 at 10:34 am #

      It is important that this ideology be developed to its fullest or we will never be able to run our cars on water when the oil runs out. To defeat the laws of physics will require intense concentration and a single minded dedication to purpose. ‘Visualizing’ and imagining the world as you want it seems to be the only way forward. Nobody has a better answer so we have to think it so.

      • beantownbill. August 14, 2017 at 11:02 am #

        Your outlook is realistic, but I detect an air of bitterness that things are unfolding the way they are. It might be better for you if you adopt a more zen-like attitude.

        • K-Dog August 14, 2017 at 11:44 am #

          Beantown, I appreciate your concern and I’m doing fine. Zen is fine within limits but it can also lead to its own self indulgence. A tool like any, that can be used or misused.

          It is a hard thing to put the social chaos happening now in its proper perspective but this task is binding on those who think big. I do.

          Zen or an ostrich head in the sand.

          Recite the serenity prayer. Life gives you lemons make lemonade. Rub your belly three times.


          • K-Dog August 14, 2017 at 11:25 pm #

            And Beantown, you have been here a long time. A changing of the guard and I’m still standing. So are you it seems so I can tell you that your deeper meaning is not lost on me.

            Life is full of disappointments what matters is what we do with them.

      • michael August 14, 2017 at 4:30 pm #

        No, not on water, better still: on the vacuum.

        • K-Dog August 14, 2017 at 11:20 pm #

          A flux capacitor Mr. Fusion.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 1:44 pm #

      Well said. For all your fooling around, you have a fine, clear mind when you want to use it.

      Yes. Virtue displaying women go into ecstasy when a little boy displays gender confusion. She is now a fucking hero. First step: an immediate shopping spree to buy him a new wardrobe.

      • benr August 16, 2017 at 3:52 pm #

        So sick of the liberal/progressive virtue signaling nonsense!!!

  16. DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 10:36 am #

    The Michael Brown killing in Ferguson, MO, that kicked off the BLM movement was never a convincing case of injustice, but has been widely regarded as if it was

    This is the shocking thing, really. In the fall of 2014, there was also the Tamir Rice killing, where some 12-year-old black kid was simply executed within 2 seconds of police arrival by a cop whose qualifications were rejected by a few departments. ANYONE could see that that was wrong, and it could have started a focus on de-escalating police violence against citizens. It’s the same with the dash cam video of Philando Castile getting executed in Minnesota, followed by that Australian woman.

    Instead, we were supposed to accept that a man who fought with a police officer, tried to grab his gun, and refused to surrender was a victim. They never let up on it, or went to the obvious case of injustice, like Tamir Rice. That means they’re not looking to address injustice, but to demonstrate power by making people say things they know not to be true.

    • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 10:42 am #

      Tamar had a toy gun that didnt look like a toy.
      ghetto lottery.


      where some 12-year-old –how tall was he?
      How many ‘youths’ attack the popo?

      • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 10:56 am #

        “Tamar had a toy gun that didnt look like a toy.”
        They took how long to determine that?

        From the 911 call:
        A man called 911 to report that a “guy with a gun” is pointing it at people at Cudell Recreation Center.

        The man was calm and told dispatcher Constance Hollinger that the person pointing the gun was “probably a juvenile” and that the gun is “probably fake.”

        Bad procedure #1:
        The problem was that dispatchers didn’t tell Loehmann and Garmback that Tamir might be a child and that the gun might be fake.

        The following relates to Minnesota:

        Loehmann got out of the cruiser and fired his service weapon twice at close range. Loehmann said he shouted warnings to Tamir to drop his firearm, but the whole interaction lasted less than two seconds.

        The city, since this shooting, has worked with the U.S. Justice Department and an independent monitor to re-draft how officers use force and try to de-escalate situations. While the new policies still leave officers a lot of discretion, it also says officers must take every step necessary to avoid using violence before using a weapon.

        This could include slowing a situation down or moving to escape danger.

        Had BLM focused on the unjust killing instead of the justified one, we might have had reviews for conveying information (part of the Castile killing), and focused on calming down jumpy cops. Instead, we get 5 policemen killed in cold blood in Dallas by a man focusing on false narratives of police brutality.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 1:48 pm #

          That’s the point Doc: you don’t have time in such scenarios. Two seconds is an eternity. It’s Darwinism in action: the kid was a hardcore dummy not to drop or hide that “gun” when the police showed up. And being that dumb and vicious, in a few years he would have gotten the real thing and started a life of crime.

          • Beryl of Oyl August 14, 2017 at 2:19 pm #

            The kid was a kid, Janos.
            Whoever was responsible for him, however…

          • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 3:13 pm #

            How fast does a bullet take to reach you when you are ten feet away?

            Little kids can’t kill? Tell that to the families of the victims of the ISIS kid killers. They train them with live victims. Go to Youtube and you can see it.

          • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter August 14, 2017 at 3:24 pm #

            FWIW, and black kids and guns:


            Squeeky Fromm
            Girl Reporter

          • michael August 14, 2017 at 4:34 pm #

            If you shoot within two seconds save yourself the effort of shouting directions. It takes longer to understand and follow these.

      • thwack August 14, 2017 at 11:01 am #

        Is Ohio and “open carry” state?

        In other words, can the police kill you for simply possessing a hand gun?

        Ive heard rumors that in places like Iraq and Afghanistan, U.S military snipers would leave weapons on the ground and then shoot the first person (non white) that came along and picked it up?


        they try to sweep it under the rug, but many black detectives and off duty police officers have also received the “Tamir Rice Treatment”

        Just sayin

        • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 11:10 am #

          an not and.

        • James Howard Kunstler August 14, 2017 at 11:23 am #

          Simply possessing a gun is not the same as brandishing a gun. The lesson of the Tamir Rice incident: foolish behavior can have tragic consequences. — JHK

          • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 11:49 am #

            Yeah, but Philando Castile simply possessed a gun, and did not brandish it. Didn’t help him.

            One has to have some sympathy with the police officers who killed Tamir: they were misinformed, and one was not qualified to be a police officer. They were undertrained. That lack of training and escalated response later wound up killing two people in Minnesota.

            Had we focused on jumpy police in 2014, instead of Michael Brown and the proper police response to him (oh, and how having police fines constitute 25% of a city’s revenue source [be nice if Jeff Sessions would do away with asset forfeiture] is simply legalized highway robbery), we might have avoided those two Minnesota deaths.

          • thwack August 14, 2017 at 12:26 pm #

            Simply possessing a gun is not the same as brandishing a gun.


            You never “brandished” a toy gun when you were a boy?

            You never played “Cowboys and Indians”, “Cops and Robbers”…

            What country you from?

            We had cap guns and we ran around the neighborhood shooting them at each other.

            In addition, what if Tamir Rice had autism or assburgers syndrome like a white person?

          • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 1:51 pm #

            Doc, that may be a real case. Another one was in N.Y when the cop wouldn’t stop choking the guy even though he was on the ground and subdued. The latter is clear in my book. The Castille one not so much: Blacks do love to shoot cops and love to fool around by keeping a hand in their pocket. Cops are very jumpy around them and for good reason.

        • JimInFlorida August 14, 2017 at 12:54 pm #

          thwack, what color was the handgun?

          That’s what I thought…

          • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 3:09 pm #

            I read 2 things. That the family MIGHT have encouraged him to do so [ghetto lottery] and that the tip of the toy [orange color] was removed.

            Your thoughts?

          • JimInFlorida August 14, 2017 at 6:05 pm #

            I didn’t get that far, malthuss. I was just messing with thwack.

          • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 9:42 pm #

            The canonical story on it is here. Click it and read it for a good overview of the events.

            It’s a chain of errors all the way down. And no, his mother expressly forbade him to play with guns. Probably why the kid was playing with a toy gun, away from her.

  17. Kevvia Knack August 14, 2017 at 10:42 am #

    I propose as a society we stop using the following terms: 1. “White Privilege” (as if all white people are created equal–in all honestly, the white working class people I know have a LOT more crap to deal with than the Asian and Latino people I know—see my book recommendation below) 2. “White Trash” (offensive, imagine if we used the term “Black Trash” or “Latino Trash” openly) and 3. “Third World” (an offensive term to describe non-white Earthlings). I read a very good book this week “White Working Class–Overcoming Class Cluelessness in America”. It’s new and it’s a quick read and quite insightful. I tune out the media for the most part but noticed two particularly clueless things this morning on the car radio: Demonstrators singing “Let It Be” (the 1970 Beatles song) as a response to the Charlottesville rioting. “Let it Be” is a song about acceptance—why would you sing a song about acceptance as a response to the riots? How stupid. And I heard some politician commenting about Charlottesville and stating something about “we’ve jumped this shark”—“Jumping the Shark” means something else entirely, that’s a complete misuse of the expression….

    • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 10:54 am #

      Demonstrators singing “Let It Be” –Paul Mc Cartney was mugged by killers in Africa. I kid you not. They didnt kill him because he was a tourist, if I recall [black lives dont matter].

      PMC sang Blackbird about oppressed blacks, as well.

      • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 10:54 am #

        plus ‘ebony and ivory’.

        • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 11:20 am #

          Do ebony and ivory really live together in perfect harmony side by side on a piano keyboard?

          Does the fact that white keys outnumber black keys make any difference?

          • hmuller August 14, 2017 at 11:33 am #

            I heard Maxine Waters has introduced a House bill requiring a higher quota of black keys on pianos, in addition to brown, red, and yellow keys.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 1:54 pm #

            Cuck comment. No sane person goes to a Black doctor because they’re affirmative action hires. You should know that better than any and be able to see thru the whole sorry game. Instead you are counting piano keys.

          • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 3:10 pm #

            NO, Does the fact that white outnumber black make any difference?

          • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 9:45 pm #

            Jeez, Janos: just quoting the lyrics. Was a #1 song back in 1982.

            Much funnier was the version with Eddie Murphy as Stevie Wonder and Joe Piscopo as Frank Sinatra

            “I am black and you are white.”
            “You are blind as a bat, and I have sight.”

    • DA August 14, 2017 at 10:56 am #

      Link for your book: https://www.amazon.com/White-Working-Class-Overcoming-Cluelessness/dp/1633693783

      Looks intersting.

  18. DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 10:45 am #

    These Nazi and KKK bozos are rising up because the thinking-enabled people of the center have been too cowardly to stand up against the rising tide of idiocy festering at both ends of the spectrum, and particularly on the Left with its direct wiring to the policy-making centers of American life, dictating how people must think and act, and what they should care about.

    I’d recommend a book in this regard, JHK. Defying Hitler is the tale of a right-wing opponent of the National Socialists, an old-line Prussian nationalist disgusted by the uncouth thugs of the NSDAP. Two points from the book stand out in this regard. 1) The Nazis became popular when they would go out onto the streets to battle the left-wing thugs assaulting ordinary Germans, because the state would do nothing to stop left-wing violence against bourgeois Germans. 2) After the Nazi takeover of power, the fight just went out of the Socialists entirely, and they rolled over.

    It’s not the losers waving Nazi flags we need to worry about. It’s the organizational geniuses figuring out how to use a new SA to take over the whole country. Antifa will find out, as Alinsky wrote, that the action is the reaction to them. And after they’ve spawned a Nazi state, they’ll do nothing to fight it.

    Except this Nazi state will have its hands on nuclear weapons.

    • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 10:55 am #

      These Nazi and KKK bozos are rising up–how many of them are there?

    • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 2:02 pm #

      Do Whites have rights or not? If yes, that means to advocate for ourselves as a group just like Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, et al.

      What is the problem? I know, I know: White Dispossession is the very essence of America now. But the easy stuff is over. From here on in they’re going to have to fight us. Now you know very well that statues of Lincoln and Washington are next. Is that right or wrong? Face it, Doc: we’re on the right side and the Establishment is not. If you can’t openly support us, do so secretly.

      • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 4:46 pm #

        Suppose I were white, and of Slavic background, Janos. As a Pole or Russian, would I have rights? The numbers of Slavs killed as a direct result of Nazi actions so far outnumbers whites killed by any number of others that it makes the comparison ridiculous.

        The worry is that weak leftist violence, uncontained by the state, will spur some radical right wing groups who will be manipulated into being the muscle for a group at the top. A middle class, its hopes destroyed by inflation and its fears raised by uncontrolled left-wing rioting, throws its support behind that group.

        I cannot begin to imagine the destruction that results from that. i would prefer that the state do its job and stop the violence now.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 7:49 pm #

          You didn’t answer the question: Are we full citizens or not? And don’t talk about all the White Politicians and Businessmen: they don’t represent Us but only their class. They’ve thrown us under the bus to placate people who will never be real Americans. All a diversion to keep their ill gotten gains.

          • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 9:50 pm #

            Of course we have rights.

            My worry is the unencumbered Federal state. I don’t think it’s anti-white as much as pro-banker. Denuding the country just affects more whites now.

            The Long Emergency means we don’t have the excess energy or money to pour down the Federal gullet. When that happens, soon we hope, there will likely be areas in the USA where whites cannot go and are not welcome. I won’t have a problem when that happens, so long as I can choose to live in an area where disconnected outside power with no skin in the game doesn’t tell my community how to run.

            That’s been a disaster for all but the top echelon.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 11:08 pm #

            Not according to the media today we don’t. Or the mayor and police of Cville. Full equality means we have the right to organize for ourselves – and protest against inequality like affirmative action. Our place is at the top needless to say. Anything else means we’re being discriminated against.

          • messianicdruid August 15, 2017 at 9:35 am #

            “That’s been a disaster for all but the top echelon.”

            Managed by the top echelon [ class ]. Pogo was not rich

  19. EvelynV August 14, 2017 at 10:52 am #

    What galls me is the choice of Robert E. Lee’s statue removal as a cause.

    I’m currently reading Shelby Foote impressive trilogy about the Civil War. Robert E. Lee was the kind of man who deserves to be honored and recognized for the extraordinary person he was. The cause he fought for was NOT to preserve slavery even if that was the intended purpose of the politicians and wealthy land owners who precipitated the secession.

    Lee besides what skills he had as a general was a thoroughly decent and admirable human being. He forbad his soldiers to plunder, rape, and otherwise victimize civilians and the men under him complied because he was so highly respected. He treated all people with respect whether above or below him in status. He was kind, he was humble – there is every reason to respect him and honor him with a statue and it is a perversion to associate him with the evils of racism.

    • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 11:58 am #

      There was a 7000-comment thread over at the NYT about this. The considered opinion: Robert e. Lee fought on behalf of a slave-holding society, and so ought not to be present anywhere on earth.

      I, for one, think they ought to take this logic to its final ends. Take down all statues of Washington. then, find ANY soldier who fought on the side of slavers. Take those statues down; goodbye, Marcus Aurelius. Slavery was practiced in ancient Israel? Set hammer-wielding madmen to work on Michelangelo’s sculpture of Moses. Destroy any remains of ANY society where slavery was practiced; that should solve the problem of the Elgin marbles. Blow up the US Capitol: it was built with slave labor.

      • Bruce E August 14, 2017 at 12:35 pm #

        Taking “this logic to its final ends” is a very specific form of logical error that has a name: the “slippery slope fallacy.”

        The Confederacy wasn’t merely a slave-holding society. It was a society whose founding principles were rooted in the right to own slaves — and not just “slaves” in the general but rather very specifically black African slaves — and whose economic success was predicated upon the continuation of that practice into the long-term future, probably forever.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 2:03 pm #

          The slaves had a better life in many ways than the Northern factory workers.

          • Beryl of Oyl August 14, 2017 at 2:24 pm #

            And in many ways much worse.
            No matter what conditions they had, relative to other Americans, they still wanted to be free.

          • Bruce E August 14, 2017 at 2:29 pm #

            And the Northern factories profited more on the backs of slaves than did the Southern fields by getting artificially cheap raw materials and a downward-pressure on the cost of their own labor. Slaves that escaped to the North were more than happy to work for a pittance and drive wages down for everybody.

            Yes — you are correct. The entire foundation of the economic success of the United States, both North and South but moreso in the North, was predicated upon slavery.

            It still pays dividends to this day.

          • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 5:30 pm #

            You’re right, Bruce. By running high tariffs, the North could get the benefit of a balance of payments funded by Southern agricultural products, while the South never got the benefit of importing cheap manufactures from overseas.

            Lincoln, of course,promised to raise tariffs higher. Surely you know that that, as in 1828, had a lot to do with secession. And the idea of free-trading southern ports was the real threat to his union.

            He didn’t care a fig about the slaves in1861.

          • thwack August 14, 2017 at 7:42 pm #

            The slaves had a better life in many ways than the Northern factory workers.


            let me own your daughter for a week, and then lets see if you answer with the same brain tumor?

          • sophia August 14, 2017 at 10:10 pm #

            Yes, but it’s not the point.

        • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 5:12 pm #

          Oops my comment went awry. I simply do not understand the mentality that would allow one human to morally or ethically justify owning another. I fail to see why, logically, erasing the statues of people who fought for slave-holding societies ought not take place everywhere.

          I assume you’re in favor of removing statues of Lincoln, too, whose originally proposed 13th Amendment meant to keep slavery legal (in this regard, I’m glad the South seceded and attacked, setting off the Failed war for Southern independence, instead of accepting the deal. We would still have that odious amendment.)

          Or perhaps do you see that a man can do evil and yet also be recognized for the good he does?

          • benr August 16, 2017 at 4:07 pm #

            Hey doc how do you explain that all of central and south America as well as many parts of the Caribbean also had slavery AND none of those other areas had to fight a long costly war to do away with the practice?
            Slavery died a very quiet death almost everywhere in the west in fact only parts of the middle east and Africa still practice chattel slavery.

            I suspect had it died a quiet death like elsewhere some of the racial animus would not exist today on both sides.

        • elysianfield August 14, 2017 at 6:14 pm #

          “Taking “this logic to its final ends” is a very specific form of logical error that has a name: the “slippery slope fallacy.””

          Argumentum Ad Absurdum….

    • Bruce E August 14, 2017 at 12:29 pm #

      Unless it can be proved that Lee voluntarily suffered military defeat, like a boxer who takes a dive in the 12th round after showing he could have won because a mobster who bet against the odds holds his wife hostage, in order to keep the South from enshrining slavery into the cornerstone of their fledgling Confederacy, there is no amount of “he was a good man in his heart” that can properly divorce him from the likes of Jefferson Davis and the Constitution of the Confederate states:


      People still erroneously view racism as a moral flaw of the individual rather than recognize it as it is: a functional flaw of an institution or society. It does not matter, even if it is true that Lee was a good man and did not harbor racist feelings. What matters is that he was a linchpin of the success (or lack thereof, in this case) of a racist institution whose founding principles were centered on the enslavement of black Africans and whose economic success was predicated upon the continuation of that enslavement.

      If history has taken away the shine of an actually good man, then we can just chalk his good name and his memory as a casualty of a horrible war, whatever Lee as an individual may or may not have “deserved” in terms of a legacy.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 2:06 pm #

        There was an anti-slavery movement in the South and Lee endorsed it: slavery was bad for ordinary Whites as well as being immoral in itself. I know that wins no points in your Negro worshiping heart, but other might be interested to know that he was a thinker as well as a great soldier.

        Do you care that Whites are facing genocide in Zimbabwe and South Africa? If not, why not since you are all compassionate and shit?

        • Bruce E August 14, 2017 at 2:26 pm #

          Of course slavery was bad for the working-class, whether or not they were white. What Lee endorsed with words and what he was supporting with the application of his great soldiering and thinking to the art of war supporting politicians like Jefferson Davis are two very different things, and the key here is that racism isn’t what might or might not been the affect of Lee’s heart, but rather the practical results of his efforts — had he been successful in the prosecution of the war.

          The whites in Zimbabwe and South Africa are not relevant to how this country treats its own — its citizens as well as the non-citizens that are living right here and right now within its borders. Again you want to reduce this “racism” to a particular quirk of the feelings of the individual rather than to recognize it as the practical consequences of our collective actions.

          And as to “your Negro worshiping heart,” are you kidding me? Do I have to hold out hope for every asshole on this thread, that Poe’s Law enables me to think there is a remote possibility that people like yourself (and thwack) are poorly-trained satirists trying to accomplish… what, exactly?

          • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 3:10 pm #

            Everything starts in the mind and/or heart. The Chinese have a character called Heart/Mind that is useful. Thus what people are feeling and thinking is most important. From that flows values and only later, laws.

            If you think all Whites are evil then that matters. If you think Whites who want to live are evil, then you are evil and my enemy.

          • Bruce E August 14, 2017 at 3:14 pm #

            Does it help you to make-believe that I, and people like me, “think all Whites are evil”? Does it help to dehumanize me in that way. Will it help you deal with the pains of guilt after you’ve killed me?

            Is that what you are preparing for, with this fiction of yours?

          • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 5:20 pm #

            Stalin was no doubt a mass killer, with the Holodomor killing millions of Ukrainians. Evil man, with a body count only exceeded by Mao.

            Zhukov was a general who fought for this evil man, and survived Stalin’s ill-timed purges to become the supreme commander of Soviet forces. When his homeland was invaded by forces commanded by a man who had no problem with slavery, he fought back bravely and well, despite killing millions of his countrymen. His armies committed mass rape on their march westward.

            Should the Russians be permitted to have statues of this man who fought for an evil regime? What do you think of Zhukov?

          • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 5:23 pm #

            By the way, I admire the way you can see through the fog to what’s really behind things. Slavery served the needs of the upper crust of Confederate society, and keeping the white and black working classes from recognizing class interests they have in common keeps people fighting amongst themselves, instead of focusing on the new slaveholding elite that profits from all of us.

            Have you read Debt, by David Graeber?

          • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 7:52 pm #

            Bruce: You people say all Whites are racist – and even teach it in Universities. I’m not imagining anything. Anyone around academia knows how mad it is now because of your folks.

          • sophia August 14, 2017 at 10:16 pm #

            Bruce, it’s probable that Lee was not fighting for slavery, especially if he thought it ought to be abandoned. There were other reasons for the secession. You are too narrow.

          • Bruce E August 15, 2017 at 1:12 pm #

            Janos, I don’t believe all “White” people are racists. I believe ALL people are racist. The only cassette tape I ever owned before I was 20 was Eddie Murphy’s “Raw.” The fact that Eddie is black does not make the jokes on that show any less racist, any less offensive. The fact that I laughed with Eddie rather than at him does not make me any less racist. The fact that I now know that those jokes are racist and offensive, combined with the fact that I still find most of them funny, means I’m still racist in a limited way.

            Once you identify this about yourself, things start to clear up. Once you admit the problem, face it, own it — only then can you start to fix it.

            The difference between me and you is not that you are a racist and I’m not. We’re both racists. The difference is I know it’s wrong and am trying to fix it, starting with myself, and you either don’t see it in yourself or you do and you don’t see anything wrong with it. In fact, it seems you want to revel in it, claim it as your “heritage,” parade it out front for the whole world to see, and then act surprised when people push back at you — even as you hoist a fucking swastika on a banner in their face, as if your intent when doing so wasn’t to incite a (violent) reaction.

      • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 5:26 pm #

        He did fight the war poorly, and with Southern ideas of nobility. The South had no chance in a war of attrition against a wealthier and more populous north. So in a sense he did voluntarily suffer military defeat.

        By the way, how do you feel about the USA being a part of the UN?

        • Bruce E August 15, 2017 at 1:24 pm #

          What mythos one subscribes to when it comes to Robert E. Lee is a Rorsach test that tells you something about the subscriber. It is not clear to me why some people want to paint the most-optimistic picture upon him and ascribe near-sainthood to him, given his role in our history.

          If, however, it could be proven conclusively that Lee threw the fight in order that someone like Jefferson Davis couldn’t get his way with regards to the continuation of slavery, then I would love to read that history. If it is convincing to enough people, it will be the KKK and the Nazis destroying his statues rather than venerating them…

          I’m not sure why you bring up the UN right now. I’m not connecting the dots and perhaps you can help me see why that question is relevant. It sounds, perhaps, like another Rorsach test question.

          Do I consider the US’ sovereignty as more important than our role in a community of nations in the world? No. I’m not a “patriot” in that sense. I’m not a nationalist. In fact, I think nationalism is a much more destructive force than is racism. I think, at least as it stands now given our veto power, the UN has little leverage other than rhetorical over what the US does or does not do, but perhaps that little bit of leverage is enough and I wouldn’t call for more, at least at the moment. In some senses, I would think the world would be better off, and the US worse-off, if we were “taken down a notch” by giving the UN more leverage.

          When 5% of the world’s population consumes 25-30% of the energy and enjoys the largess of a third of the world GDP, and also leverages that inequality to run roughshod over the world during a time of energy and economic contraction, as someone benefiting from that inequality I recognize that it would hurt me directly if there was any movement towards economic and political justice by even reducing the magnitude of that inequality by a little bit.

          Did I answer your question?

          • DrTomSchmidt August 15, 2017 at 2:46 pm #

            Part of the mythos has to do with being a good loser. Lee did not ravage the Maryland and Pennsylvania countryside like Sherman did Georgia, and his surrender at Appomattox had a lot to do with his soldiers being dismissed by Grant to return home with their weapons; Grant knew that Lee’s status would carry enough weigh with his soldiers to end the war then. One could imagine a South full of soldiers like the Japanese who fought on into the 70s.

            I Think his “nobility” and “chivalry” had a lot to do with the South’s losing, but he didn’t intentionally throw the war. He did free his own slaves in 1862, if I recall correctly. In some sense, having people with Nazi flags celebrating him is just: both losing causes.

            The interesting thing is that you’ve recognized how much the North benefited from Slavery, especially through the mechanism of profits. This sense, it was a colonizer of the South, even more so after the war. You might investigate whether the UN, of which the USA is a member, supports the rights of colonies to revolt, and of the rights of peoples to free themselves. The Confederacy would have had that right, especially considering itself a distinct people. Likewise, the slaves in the South and the North would have the right to rebel.

            I assume you support Hawaii’s right to secede? The UN certainly would, if undertaken by native Hawaiian people.

            Jane Jacobs pointed out that in 1950 the planet consisted of 50 sovereignties, when Norway broke away and began increasing them. We have far too few at this moment, so i have to side with the UN in favor of the rights of peoples to throw off colonial domination.

            We’re about 4% of the planet, Bruce. We are desperately fumbling about, trying to pay for a military and a global dominance we cannot afford. We starve and underinvest in our people so we can kill others. As declining free energy causes economic collapse, we won’t be able to do that anymore: as JHK points out, we are too big.

            If we are too big, we need to get smaller, as you yourself point out. Cut the defense budget to 100$bln and the average American not be endangered at all. The people who get to Lord it over the little people elsewhere in the world will lose out, of course, and hey hold the reins of power.

            Of course, one way to get smaller, and to make the world safer, is for peaceful secession. Walk away from Omelas.

          • Bruce E August 15, 2017 at 3:33 pm #

            Thanks Dr. Tom, especially for your reference to Omelas. That was the very first thing I read that inspired me to read philosophy and history; it still to this day has a strong effect on my thoughts.

            One thing that Trump has done to me is turned me into a freaking 10th Amendment conservative. Not only do I want Hawaii to walk away from Omelas, but California and New York to lead the way out.

            I wonder if a secession would be peaceful, or if the ideals of Lincoln still hold sway and the Union will be preserved at the point of a spear if necessary. Some days I think a state like California or New York or Texas could secede simply by refusing to read Trump’s Twitter feed…

            But yes. I agree that walking away from Omelas, however that works itself out in reality rather than metaphor, is a possible way out of this mess that doesn’t involve someone like Janos shooting me.

          • DrTomSchmidt August 15, 2017 at 6:47 pm #

            Ah, you have the right idea, Bruce. Your notion that you are racist, because each human is racist, strikes as more likely to have people come to a successful conclusion to the issue.

            I made a recommendation elsewhere here, and I’ll do so again. Do read Debt by David Graeber. A rightist might think it a left-wing book, but it’s one of those tomes that debunks so much of the mythology underlying the current economic structure that it winds up supporting arguments also made on the right. Once you see the weak foundation that underlies neoliberal economic thinking, you’ll see why the system requires race conflict to keep running.

            One thing that Trump has done to me is turned me into a freaking 10th Amendment conservative. Not only do I want Hawaii to walk away from Omelas, but California and New York to lead the way out.
            I got there by Catholic subsidiarity. I read too many comments in the NYT decrying Lee as a “traitor” for secession (do read the definition of treason on that one) and pulling for the unified, centralized government in DC. I’d hope that those people will see that by forcing the two sides in what has been a simmering culture war for a while to be subjected to rule by the other, they’ve created the possibility of NY being ruled by Texas or Alabama. If the Left can see that this is possible, hopefully they’ll re-energize the 10th so we can all go our own way peaceably. To lose the same percentage of population now that we did from 1861-1865 is appalling to consider.

            If you want to understand conservatives so that you’re not drawn into a zero-sum war with them, Jonathan Haidt’s The Righteous Mind would be the next text to read.

  20. beantownbill. August 14, 2017 at 10:52 am #

    I always look at things as if I’m an alien observing Homo sapiens from afar. What I see is a bunch of hairless monkeys jabbering at each other and flinging poo around.

    We’ve always had these societal issues; only the terminology has changed. We are not suicidal, just ignorant, so I don’t believe we will end up directly offing ourselves en masse.

    The rise and falll of empires and changes in alliances and social mores always occur, and over time ultimately mean nothing as human life goes on.

    Where the rubber meets the road is the consequences of our ignorance. Overpopulation leaves us vulnerable to mass infections, and altering our environment both unwittingly and willfully can introduce factors that will cause us much misery.

    My modus operandi is to keep my head down, live my life and hope for the best while preparing for the worst.

    • DA August 14, 2017 at 10:58 am #

      Much wisdom here.

    • KarlDehrmann August 14, 2017 at 11:15 am #

      “My modus operandi is to keep my head down, live my life and hope for the best while preparing for the worst.”

      This. History is like a tidal wave washing over us right now. Smart people are looking for lifeboats, not trying to engineer levees.

    • hmuller August 14, 2017 at 11:43 am #

      So true, beantownbill. When I see Trump and Kim “communicating”, I think of rival primates performing dominance displays: chest pounding, shrieking, barring teeth, flinging poo (or Twitter messages). I want to laugh, but unfortunately a lot of people could die because of this nonsense.

      • benr August 16, 2017 at 4:19 pm #

        Step back and look at how North Korea has been handled up till now.
        Norks start misbehaving, sabre rattling and they are paid to be good and about every five or six years the start up again.
        Now they are not being paid to be good and they are screaming even louder and displaying threat tactics like a large gorilla throwing shrubs and leaves as they vocalize loudly and charge about.

        Time to stop paying the norks to be good Trump is 100% correct in this regard.

    • capt spaulding August 14, 2017 at 2:33 pm #

      Absolutely Bean. While I have opinions about much of what is going on, I do not let it influence my decisions regarding the future. You are correct on many levels. Hopefully, I will run into other sane people like you in my journey into the future. Moderation in all things but the pursuit of liberty.

    • thwack August 14, 2017 at 3:00 pm #

      What I see is a bunch of hairless monkeys jabbering at each other and flinging poo around.


      Some of us are Apes; please do try to keep up.


      • elysianfield August 14, 2017 at 6:19 pm #

        “Some of us are Apes”

        Orangutans, or those evil striped-assed ones?

        • thwack August 14, 2017 at 7:24 pm #

          How bout pale, hairless ones with blue eyes?

          * your ass ain’t talkin your way out of this so it would behoove you to STFU*

          • elysianfield August 15, 2017 at 11:15 am #

            “How bout pale, hairless ones with blue eyes?”

            Just like Jesus, then? I’ve seen the pic’s.

  21. ccm989 August 14, 2017 at 10:54 am #

    Whoa, James, sorry to say it but you are WAY OFF base here. Its not a both sides did it. Its one side MURDERED a young woman by ramming a car into her. That man, James Field, is an Alt Right White Nationalist who LOVES Nazis, KKK and killing liberals. What did the counter protesters a/k/a the UVA students do? Well, they did NOT burn anything, did NOT riot and didn’t kill anyone either.

    So its one side who’s to blame — the white supremacists. They need to be denounced loudly by Donnie Trump who won’t because then he loses his base. And if he loses his base, he’s got nothing. During his presidential campaign, Donnie said he would give financial help anyone who beat up liberals. Do ya think he’s gonna pay the bail for Jimmy Fields? My guess — no, Donnie doesn’t live up to his promises and he’s a cheater in every way.

    But the real hatred poor, underemployed whites like the Alt Right White Nationalists have for anyone who is tan/brown/black would probably vanish if the economy were in better shape. Read an article in the New Yorker where tech billionaires are planning for various apocalypse situations by buying nuclear hardened apartments in underground silos and such. Seems to me if those self-centered creeps like Donnie Trump and Peter Thiel would spend less time trying to give themselves HUGE TAX BREAKS and instead invest in the infrastructure, repairing things that need repairs and giving local people good paying jobs, why the whole racist tension thing would go away. But I won’t count on Donnie or Thiel to act like decent human beings. They lack any sort of soul.

    • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 10:57 am #

      What did the counter protesters a/k/a the UVA students do? Well, they did NOT burn anything, did NOT riot and didn’t kill anyone either.


      • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 2:09 pm #

        Yeah I can’t even. This is the kind of hatred that going to bring on the Civil War. The Universities produce countless scum like this every year.

        • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 2:54 pm #

          Just a few things CNN won’t tell you about Charlottesville: –

          Baked Alaska will be permanently blinded after being sprayed with chemicals, and potentially others will suffer the same.

          – People were doused with piss –

          Antifa has been known to discuss using HIV-positive needles –

          The car driver wasn’t a “Nazi terrorist”, video evidence has shown him panicking after being swarmed by antifa and flooring it to escape – people were illegally ejected from the park –

          Cops forced the righties to March straight through violence-inciting antifa –
          Antifa used flamethrowers

          Things CNN will tell you: – We used tear gas – We’re Nazi terrorists – we started it – We’re all part of the KKK (what

          • thwack August 14, 2017 at 3:03 pm #

            The car driver wasn’t a “Nazi terrorist”, video evidence has shown him panicking after being swarmed by antifa and flooring it to escape



            He “floored it” in REVERSE when he REALLY wanted to escape.

            Come on Malpiss, you can do better than that?

          • benr August 16, 2017 at 4:21 pm #

            Thwak he had people chasing his car with bats.

  22. troutbum2 August 14, 2017 at 10:56 am #

    Mr. Kunstler,
    Thanks for your weekly thoughts. Have you had the chance to consider
    how electric autonomous vehicles might impact the Long Emergency?
    Here’s one article in a respected journal that’s thought provoking:


    • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 11:05 am #

      Are you new here?
      Have you read JHKs books?

      Cars need infrastructure [roads and bridges].
      Cars need a middle class to buy them.

      The ‘sub prime’ auto scam is coming to an end.
      As JHK would note, ‘levitate the economy, artificially’,

    • michael August 14, 2017 at 5:04 pm #

      The self driving car will lock the doors and conveniently drive you to the next detention center all by itself. You won’t even have to know where that is.

  23. KarlDehrmann August 14, 2017 at 10:58 am #

    I could not agree more. I have a wife of Asian descent and a couple of kids, and even though I should naturally be aligned with those opposing the Skinheads, I can’t help feeling the best outcome would have been a missile strike on the whole stinking mass of skinheads and antifa.

    The “White Nationalists” have a valid point about the demonization of Whites and Western Culture by the Marxist left today. If I actually believed that was their true intention in protesting (and not eventually bringing violence to my family) I could be sympathetic. Of Course, underneath the rational explanations is the same old tribal nonsense. The Antifa, on the other hand, are just as Jim says, a collaboration of marxists, reverse racists, illegal immigrant advocates, and sexual perverts.

    I would care more if I didn’t know how bad the coming resource collapse is going to be, and that any political action at this point is futile. This is end of empire stuff mixed with John Calhoun over population behavioral changes. At this point, I am beyond caring about society as a whole, and am strictly in lifeboat mode for my children. Their survival is all I care about any more.

    • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 11:07 am #

      I should naturally be aligned with those opposing the Skinheads,
      [the] marxists, reverse racists, illegal immigrant advocates, and sexual perverts.

      Hoist by your own petard.

      • KarlDehrmann August 14, 2017 at 11:43 am #

        I only meant that “White Nationalists” are hostile to my family on a fundamental basis. Of Course, Antifa is hostile to everyone who is rational, to include my family.

        I don’t have a dog in the fight, really, I am of the belief that the ship is going down regardless. I am Apolitical at this point. I’m a single issue guy. My issue is the survival of my children through the coming bottle neck. My Children and (hopefully) grandchildren can take up the issue of politics in the future if I am successful in getting them there.

        • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 5:01 pm #

          I find it hard to imagine the mentality of someone who would decide it was moral or ethical to own another person as a piece of property. In that light, I can understand removing any statues anywhere of any slave-holders.

          As far as slippery slope, well, would you have imagined that Bill Clinton would be criticized for signing the Defense of Marriage Act?

        • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 5:03 pm #

          Oops, wrong reply. Karl, good for you for sticking up for your family. You won’t make it alone, of course, so best to find a tribe that will defend your interests and beliefs.

          The Indians look like a good group, mostly law-abiding and having the highest per-capital income in the USA.

          Are there discussions amongst Indian Americans of forming self-defense groups? With whom do they align?

          • Q. Shtik August 14, 2017 at 9:31 pm #

            I assume in referring to Indians you mean dot not feather?

            BTW, it’s per capita, not per capital.

          • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 9:54 pm #


          • KarlDehrmann August 15, 2017 at 8:45 am #

            No talk about self defense groups as far as I know. However, I learned years ago that discussing finite world issues elsewhere than the internet is a prescription for social ostracism, so I keep my mouth shut.

            What they do have going for them is a certain clanishness. There is an expectation to help (even distant) extended family. For instance, my father in law allowed several siblings and their families to live with him when they first moved to America. He paid for everything, which allowed them to save money for downpayments on houses, and to purchase used cars for cash. Another example would be a wedding I attended in Belize earlier this year. My wifes first cousin married a Belizean girl. He had cousins he had only met once fly in from England to “represent” that branch of the family. Of course this sort of clanishness can lead to nepotism and carries reciprocal duties as well as rights, but on the whole, I admire it. I suspect it was the status quo everywhere pre-industrialism.

            That being said, most Indians in America are the children of intellectuals that came over for college after the 1965 immigration changes (hence the high levels of degree attainment and income, we essentially skimmed the upper class). They thus are pretty progressive minded and not predisposed to preparedness ideas. They also dont have a martial tradition, much firearm ownership, or many farmers/tradesmen in their ranks.

            One thing that they do have is a memory of many of them or their family members facing persecution in Africa (wifes uncle born in Nairobi). That older generation wont hesitate to circle the wagons when things get rough, likely while the average American is still waiting on the national guard.

    • thwack August 14, 2017 at 11:10 am #

      “I have a wife of Asian descent and a couple of kids,”


      Hey Karl,

      are you a white person?

      If so, did any white people (family, friends, strangers…) express opposition to your decision to marry a non white person?

      If so,

      1. Who was it?

      2. What was your response?

      3. Did you tell your non white future wife?

      4. What did you tell her?

      • KarlDehrmann August 14, 2017 at 11:38 am #

        I am White.

        Believe it or not, We received more push back from her family than mine, though it wasn’t much from either side. More concern about the “unknown” and cultural differences than racism. We started dating in 1999, and didn’t get married until 2008, so everyone had time to get used to the idea. It helps, I imagine, that we are from educated and irreligious families. You know, rational types. 🙂

        We used to get more stares from strangers in the late 1990’s, now days, not so much. We live in the Midwest, where people in general tend to be more laid back (Though the Charlottesville car murderer was admittedly from Ohio).

        Race is a funny thing. Americans (or at least the media) seem obsessed with it. My wife and I have both remarked how we “Forget” we are of different backgrounds. It just doesn’t come up in daily life. I think this is because we are both fully assimilated to American culture. I have colonial stock on one side, but relatively recent German stock on the other. I have no cultural affinity to Germany. Similarly, even though my wife is first generation Indian-American, she is fully assimilated. I honestly believe that if Black and Latino folks did the same a lot of our racial problems would disappear. Cultural differences seem a lot more divisive than racial ones to me. The powers that benefit from keeping the racial narrative going won’t ever agree to that, though.

        • thwack August 14, 2017 at 12:33 pm #

          Im sorry Karl, but you side stepped the main question:

          did any white people (family, friends, strangers…) express opposition to your decision to marry a non white person?

          Can you answer this question?

          • JimInFlorida August 14, 2017 at 12:59 pm #

            White people aren’t allowed to take notice, let alone protest marrying a non-White finance.

            He DID answer your question by dancing around it, as a White Kulak is required to.

          • KarlDehrmann August 14, 2017 at 1:10 pm #

            No one expressed opposition to my decision to marry a non white person.

            Once, early in our relationship and after a few glasses of wine, my mother asked me why I couldnt find a white girlfriend. In fairness, several years later when the relationship hit a rocky patch, she also talked me into sticking it out.

            My mother-in-law, also early in the relationship, told my wife that she “wanted an Indian” as a son-in-law. She now trusts me over the Indian Son-in-law to help manage her substantial retirement savings.

            Early in the relationship some extended family members (predominantly on her side) expressed some reservations. By the time the engagement and marriage rolled around, both sides were fully supportive (Or kept their opinions otherwise to themselves). Nobody refused to attend the wedding or anything like that.

            When I asked my father-in-law for her hand in marriage, he hugged me and we drank a toast of scotch. His only admonishment was that they did not believe in divorce (my parents are divorced). I promised him I wouldnt be the one to initiate a divorce, and 9 years and 2 kids later, so far, so good.

          • KarlDehrmann August 14, 2017 at 1:28 pm #


            I may be a white kulak (extra points for the obscure reference, I had to look it up, which I dont often have to do).

            That said, I come from blue collar stock, and looking at the neck tattoos, broken families, and drug addiction in the old neighborhood, Ill take the class hostility that comes with success. Theres no more nobility in the white lower class than there is in the lower class blacks. I treat everyone I meet with courtesy, but truth be told, I do hold the lower class (black, white, or other) in America in contempt. You’re largely a bunch of naked poo flinging apes who havent the intellect or spirit to turn your eyes up from the ground and look around. Hopefully the lot of you will be the ones doing the dieing when the bottleneck comes.

            In the meantime ill enjoy the mcmansion and expensive vacations that come with my station in life. Now fuck off.

          • thwack August 14, 2017 at 1:45 pm #

            August 14, 2017 at 1:10 pm #
            No one expressed opposition to my decision to marry a non white person.


            Once again, you did NOT answer the question.

            Im going to beat you with this question until you answer it.

            Once again, here is the question:

            did any white people (family, friends, strangers…) express opposition to your decision to marry a non white person?

            Whats the matter, does your wife read this blog?

          • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 2:56 pm #

            Yet, crime is far, far higher among the Black poor than the White. And the White poor are far less hostile to Blacks and than the Black poor are to Whites. Big differences but a Big Chief like you doesn’t care to know. You’ve sold out and now you have no stake with any people or nation but the New World Ordure.

          • KarlDehrmann August 14, 2017 at 3:04 pm #


            You’re either thick or trolling:

            I repeat: “No one expressed opposition to my decision to marry a non white person.”

            NO ONE (including all of the various types of Homo sapiens commonly referred to as White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, or other) and also including family, friends, strangers…, expressed opposition to MY decision to marry a non white person.

            Now, if you’re virtual signaling and mean to imply that someone, somewhere, unbeknownst to me expressed a general objection to interracial marriage, then you can go Fuck off with JiminFlorida. Either way, I’m done answering.

          • KarlDehrmann August 14, 2017 at 3:33 pm #


            Thank you for calling me a “Big Chief”, it’s nice when people acknowledge their superiors!

            I agree that tribalism is the natural order of things, and that we are evolved for it. I also believe that industrialism and over population have largely rendered it obsolete today.

            Tribes will return, assuming the coming collapse is not an extinction level event. The thing is, I doubt any of the current nation states or any of the traditional “Tribes” will survive what is coming. The coming collapse will wipe out the majority of EVERYONE, regardless of race, and the survivors will be forming tribes with those people they trust that surround them. If you think, after the collapse, that White will not prey on White and Black on Black as well as interracial predation because of some sense of racial solidarity, I think you are going to be very disappointed.

            There isn’t going to be some return to idyllic village life, “just like the old days” with all of us wearing lederhosen and dirndls after the collapse. A couple of hundred years hence the customs and probably the languages of the people that survive will be alien to anyone alive today or in the past.

            As far as my marriage preferences, I would think that you of all people would be supportive of my right (as an educated, property owning, White man of course!) to do as I damn well please. In any event, I already have assumed that Thwacks brethren and your fellow Klansmen will be knocking at my door, and have made appropriate contingency plans. Hopefully you all succumb to starvation or violence before you make it to my vicinity. Cheers!

          • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 7:55 pm #

            How bout India, Karl – or do they hate mixed people too? They sure hate Whites, or at least many of them do.

            Where do you stand on Indians taking American jobs? The person is expected to train their own replacement. Some Indians are good enough to feel guilty about the whole thing. But not enough. Not enough.

          • sophia August 14, 2017 at 10:44 pm #

            Thwack, what in hell is wrong with you? He did answer.

        • Nicky August 14, 2017 at 2:04 pm #


          Great comments, very thoughtful. Especially this:

          > I honestly believe that if Black and Latino folks did the same a lot of our racial problems would disappear. Cultural differences seem a lot more divisive than racial ones to me. The powers that benefit from keeping the racial narrative going won’t ever agree to that, though.<

          So much to say about this…but really, this point wasn't lost on me. I figured out how to dump the fixation on the racial narrative years ago. My psychological health was too important to me.


          • KarlDehrmann August 14, 2017 at 3:07 pm #

            Thank you.

          • thwack August 14, 2017 at 5:45 pm #

            If I fed Karl a couple of beers the truth would come out.

            He is worried that if he tells the truth, I will be used against him.

            Sometimes Janos is the only honest white man on this blog.

            (((shaking my head)))

        • messianicdruid August 15, 2017 at 11:08 am #

          Karl said, “More concern about the “unknown” and cultural differences than racism.”

          This seems redundant.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 2:12 pm #

      Yes, they have Japan in their sights as well. They will never forgive and forget that they were on the wrong side during the War. And beyond that, they want all the Higher Races broken and miscegenated out of existence. Thus the usual suspects now crown non-Japanese Miss Japans in their beauty contests.

      The Chinese may live to regret their alliance with the New World Order. The Chinese are far too intelligent to be allowed to remain pure either.

  24. malthuss August 14, 2017 at 11:02 am #

    One death at a rally gets more press than 5000 murders.

    One Trayvon gets more coverage than the killing of 1000 other ‘youths’.

  25. Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter August 14, 2017 at 11:12 am #

    Great article, but may I say one thing to Mr. Kunstler:

    You used the term “well intentioned” to describe the Liberal/Left policies of paying dollars to black women to produce illegitimate babies and chase the black men out of the family. That seems to be the norm, almost like saying “pretty coed” or “fine trimmed lawn.”

    And maybe, on the street level, the amateur Democrat level, that term applies. But I really don’t think it applies at all to the Democratic Party higher-ups who pushed for those policies.

    I think they knew darn well what they were doing to the Black Family structure, and did not give a hoot, They wanted the black vote, and if that caused a 72% black illegitimate birth rate, sooo what??? That just guarantees that QUOTE, “the n*gg*rs will be voting Democratic for the next 200 years” like LBJ said.

    I mean the whole concept of “barefoot and pregnant” is not a hard one to figure out. Every wife beater knows that one! Keep ’em poor and needy, and they will then “need” you. I assure you that LBJ was smart enough to figure that one out.

    So please, maybe in the future, leave off the “well intentioned” phrase. Because there is a good chance it was never well intentioned.

    Thank you!

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

    • Beryl of Oyl August 14, 2017 at 12:52 pm #

      Where I come from, there are plenty of white girls on welfare pumping out babies of varied race and ethnicity just as fast as they can. The very lowest ‘socio-economic’ class is completely integrated, and has been for a long, long time.

      • JimInFlorida August 14, 2017 at 1:06 pm #

        Such females are traditionally called, “White Trash” and even that slur is somewhat benevolent now. White Trash of decades past would have NEVER accepted race mixing. So, what we have is worse and deserving of greater scorn.

        The high level of miscegenation is symptomatic of orchestrated genocide. Dare we point out who has promoted mudsharking for the past three or four decades?

        • Beryl of Oyl August 14, 2017 at 1:20 pm #

          Whoever it is, they aren’t doing a good job at promoting it, because I don’t know what it is.

        • thwack August 14, 2017 at 1:35 pm #

          Such females are traditionally called, “White Trash” and even that slur is somewhat benevolent now.


          The White male is the biggest race mixer on the planet; he went around the world and left a deep, thick trail of half breeds in his wake.

          And its still true today.

          Women don’t want to win, they want and winner; and the white male is the top of the food chain, at least his wallet is?

          and thats good enough for most women.

          Just sayin

          (PS– I ain’t mad at ya… hit it once for me!)

          • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 2:15 pm #

            But that’s the thing: we never considered them White. Thus our purity remained intact. Morally, one can criticize this attitude and its practice, but it has saved us from our own excesses and failings.

            As a Black you naturally expect us to be perfect while holding yourselves to no standards whatsoever.

      • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter August 14, 2017 at 2:01 pm #

        Well, it ain’t like 72%+ of white kids are being born out of wedlock, like with the blacks. Heck, it’s 84% illegitimate black birth rate in the hotbed of racism, slavery and Jim Crow known as Minneapolis!

        Here, take a gander at this chart:


        Plus, you aren’t seeing hordes of savage white teens attacking the malls and BARTS across the land.

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

        • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 2:18 pm #

          As a Spiritualist Pastor once said to us, My Love to you. Black Youths have destroyed hundreds if not thousands of malls across America. They are a blight on America, just as the malls were. But they will destroy downtowns and state fairs as well, so let no one rejoice.

        • DrTomSchmidt August 14, 2017 at 9:57 pm #

          Too many white kids without fathers. It was north of 25% last I checked. Total is about 50% for,the USA overall.

          I assume you’ve read Amneus’ Garbage Generation?

          Yes, the driver who killed that woman in VA was a fatherless boy.

  26. wholy1 August 14, 2017 at 11:14 am #

    JHK – still on fire and still on mark as of late – hoo-wah.

  27. amb August 14, 2017 at 11:22 am #

    C’mon. It’s a runaway train. It always has been such. We just bungle along.

    People’s inability to know themselves, to understand themselves and their fellow humans, to be disconnected from their true essence–their spiritual aspect– is the cause of all of humanity’s woes throughout all of its history on this planet (and maybe other planets).

    This is the breakthrough that must be made if we are to truly love, cooperate, thrive, prosper, expand into the future, and create the wonders that we are capable of.

    • beantownbill. August 14, 2017 at 12:09 pm #

      Well said.

  28. wolfie52 August 14, 2017 at 11:31 am #

    Actually Neuroscientists (see the book BEHAVE by R Sapolosky) show that Jim is incorrect here: “…“white privilege” is not responsible for the extraordinary black-on-black homicide rates in Chicago and Baltimore or the black teen flash mobs in malls around the country…” Actually indirectly, it is. Anger displacement (a simple explanation, see the book for a detailed explanation) is EXTREMELY common in the primate world. I am not saying white privilege explains it all, but it IS AT THE ROOT of this b on b violence.

    Jim is such a good writer, but his focus is very limited. He keeps saying there is NO INVOLVEMENT by Russia in our election….on that he couldn’t be more wrong! How many spy agencies saying there was and is Russian meddling and stories about Trump officials meeting with Russians often in secret, or at least they tried to keep secret, do you need to hear about?! The problem is business ties and conflicts of interest. DO you need more proof? Just look at the way Trump treats ANY Russian, and compare that to how he treats Angela Merkel. Russia is and will try to influence our elections and it is a real story Jimbo.

    I have read Jim for 15 years now. He is a great writer. But he has been so wrong, so many times I no longer take him seriously. He does make me think and that is good. But his ideas do not hold water.

    • Beryl of Oyl August 14, 2017 at 11:58 am #

      Anger displacement is common among the not-quite-socialized males of any race.
      I just the other day heard someone parrot this talking point after a number of men got into a brawl outside a local convenience store.
      The woman interviewed on the news claimed that these men didn’t have enough to do because society or something, so they were left with no options but to fight in front of a convenience store.
      The problem with this notion, as I see it, is that I know for a fact that the brawlers were only a tiny segment of the young male adult population in that area, and in fact, it tends to be the same few, over and over, who instigate this sort of thing.
      All the people in that neighborhood, many of whom are white, “suffer” from the same lack of somebody coming and giving them something to do, once they reach adulthood. The vast majority somehow manage to find more productive ways to occupy themselves.

      You think the way treats Russians versus Angela Merkel constitutes “proof” of Russian collusion or connections or whatever they are calling it today?
      You are aware that Hillary’s people came up with the “it’s the Russians!” scenario to explain away her embarrassing defeat, aren’t you?
      Anyone else notice, this riot in Charlotte came just in time to give the MSM something to focus on, when the Awan brothers IT scandal started getting too hot to ignore, btw?
      If they could just make one last, desperate attempt to get the POTUS out of the way, maybe they could get that cat back in the bag.

    • elysianfield August 14, 2017 at 12:01 pm #

      “I am not saying white privilege explains it all, but it IS AT THE ROOT of this b on b violence.”

      I think your comment would find more acceptance if you suggested that the PERCEPTION of white privilege were at issue….

    • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 2:21 pm #

      In other words, White are evil gods and Blacks, having no agency, aren’t human.

      I agree partially Wolf. Thank you.

    • wolfbay August 14, 2017 at 5:26 pm #

      If the Russians directly hacked or fixed the voting then I’m with you. If you’re talking about American politicians ,businessmen or
      individuals communicating with Russians or RT trying to influence American opinion get over it.

  29. Phutatorius August 14, 2017 at 11:36 am #

    Thank you for not using “gnostic” this post. The LGBTQ2 crowd isn’t as inclusive as they imagine, since the leave out the “S” for straight people. So I wonder what exactly you need to do or to be to get included in this select category. What’s really the distinguishing characteristic?

    • messianicdruid August 15, 2017 at 11:44 am #

      Nimrod ism.

    • benr August 16, 2017 at 4:49 pm #


  30. Beryl of Oyl August 14, 2017 at 11:43 am #

    About those college students: these are the ‘next generation’ Barack Obama says he’s sticking around to reach.
    In fact, he’s said he wants to prepare them to “take up The baton”, and “take their own crack” at changing the world”.
    If a white person said this they would call it a dog whistle.

    It isn’t true that President Trump hasn’t responded about the engineered violence in Charlotte, btw.
    He didn’t cause it, he didn’t ask for it. This was ginned up by the MSM/Uniparty as one more attempt at somehow delegitimizing his presidency.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 2:24 pm #

      He’s thrown us under the bus now that the heat got too hot. This was the time to Stand and have a conversation about Whites having equal rights – including the right to protest and organize on their own behalf. Instead he went with the paradigm of us being 2nd class citizens. Thus ends the last chance for a peaceful resolution. Civil War is now much, much closer after todays statement.

  31. Henry August 14, 2017 at 11:53 am #

    I can’t believe it!

    You forgot the “A” in LGBTQQ!

    It’s supposed to be “LGBTQQA”

    Lesbian, Gay, Bi-sexual, Transgender, Queer, Questioning, Allies

    Forgetting the “A” means you must believe in the conceptual dualistic structures of gender in society. Time to move out of the gender binaries that oppress us all and to embrace the Drag Queen transgender man.

    • Beryl of Oyl August 14, 2017 at 12:00 pm #

      It’s an anti-woman movement. Anti-science, but also anti-woman.

      • sophia August 14, 2017 at 10:55 pm #

        How so?

    • elysianfield August 14, 2017 at 12:02 pm #

      Yeah, what he said….

    • Zoltar August 14, 2017 at 12:05 pm #

      And every time the other-than-heterosexual community adds another letter to their cockamamie acronym, thousands of people of good will toward their gay friends and neighbors become so annoyed with the movement that they no longer support it.

      • DA August 14, 2017 at 12:27 pm #


      • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter August 14, 2017 at 12:49 pm #

        And one of these days somebody is going to ask the uncomfortable question, “How come if a bi-sexual can be happy with either sex, can you say that they don’t have a choice???” Don’t they kind of have the ultimate choice?

        In the meantime, a pox on the whole LGBTQJRXYZ community. I mean it, a real live POX, and may they all get painful drippy sores in their fuzzies!

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter

        • DA August 14, 2017 at 3:54 pm #

          Ouch! So much hostility here today!

      • JimInFlorida August 14, 2017 at 1:17 pm #

        All that matters is to isolate the hated Straight White Goy Male and make him into the new Kulak of the 21st century.

      • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 2:25 pm #

        It’s time to reject Gays unless they reject this nonsense. In the end, they’re going to have to go back in the closet – and we’ll nail it shut unless they start behaving.

    • JimInFlorida August 14, 2017 at 1:12 pm #

      How did you discover that bit of crimethink before janet did?

      JANET, why didn’t you catch that? What else are we missing from LGBTQQA……. ? Beastiality? Gay Beastiality? Sex change for your dog? Political rights for your transgendered horse? SPECIESISM? CHIMERAS?

      • benr August 16, 2017 at 4:52 pm #

        Jim the next cog in the mental illness wheel will be P for Pedophile. LGBTQQp

  32. Newton Finn August 14, 2017 at 12:10 pm #

    It’s discouraging to see so many commentators wading into the civil-war-in-the-making JHK describes, instead of remaining rational and staying out of it. More than ever in my lifetime of 68 years, I find myself without a horse in the race when it comes to major social and political issues. I fondly remember the radicalism of the late 60s and early 70s, when those of us on the left could engage in civil and often entertaining conversation with the resident “Nazi” in the dorm, and when racial segregation and an unjust war provided clear and worthy targets for protest and other activism. In surveys of religious belief, more and more people are choosing the “none” category, not necessarily because they have no spiritual inclinations but because the current left and right wing forms of religious belief simply do not speak to them. Similarly, in light of the current polarization fraught with potential violence on a mass scale, I think we need a lot more “none’s” when it comes to social and political beliefs as currently framed..

    • DA August 14, 2017 at 12:26 pm #

      I’m in the same boat. This has been a looong time coming! Best to just remain neutral and get out of the way until the shit stops flying.

    • Squeeky Fromm Girl Reporter August 14, 2017 at 12:32 pm #

      Yeah, alas for those Haldol Days of Yore! Too bad all the demons that you “radicals” from the 60’s loosed from the bag, or box, have now grown up into Antifa neo-fascists, and BLM thugz, and hordes of black savages in the hood – – and are now coming back around to finish the destruction that you guys started.

      I hope you don’t pass into that good night before you get to enjoy the full fruits of your labors back then. Buy Whirlwind Insurance.

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

      • DA August 14, 2017 at 3:52 pm #

        Pretty shaky assertion ya got there Squeeky. You just trying to rock the boat?

      • benr August 16, 2017 at 4:55 pm #

        You nailed that one squeaky!
        Right on out of the park the hippy dippy neo-liberals have caused this crap storm and they should be forced to wallow in it,

    • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 2:29 pm #

      No, you don’t get it: you people won the cultural war and now you’re coming for us. This was inevitable, straight up Communist doctrine. Bill Ayers said decades ago, 25 million Whites or so will have to be put down as being incorrigible. Bill Ayers now walks the corridors of power. Can you imagine a White Nationalist ever leaving prison and attaining such influence? The Establishment’s position is thus very, very clear.

      And Ozone’s ridiculous pov is thus refuted.

      • messianicdruid August 15, 2017 at 11:57 am #

        “He’s thrown us under the bus now that the heat got too hot. This was the time to Stand and have a conversation about Whites having equal rights – including the right to protest and organize on their own behalf.”

        We all have our blind spots.

  33. DA August 14, 2017 at 12:24 pm #

    I predict 1,000+ comments this week.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 2:32 pm #


    • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 3:21 pm #

      I predict a collapse of USAs fake economy.

      • DA August 14, 2017 at 3:50 pm #

        Soon, but probably not this week.

  34. RIB August 14, 2017 at 12:38 pm #

    All this Civil War talk has reminded me that all this talk about of reprations owed blacks is just a pile of bovine excrement. That debt was paid in full by the death of over 300,000 Union soldiers.

    • thwack August 14, 2017 at 1:15 pm #

      Hey RIB,

      speaking of “reparations”

      if you could keep your personality and all of your lifes experiences to date…

      How much money would you NEED to live the rest of your life in the body of a black person?

      (and you can choose height, weight, talents….)

      • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 2:33 pm #

        No, Blacks owe us. And their debt can never be paid.

      • RIB August 14, 2017 at 2:44 pm #

        Ah, will that include the size of my Johnson?

  35. wm5135 August 14, 2017 at 12:39 pm #

    Does anyone consider the tsunami of anguish and despair that will follow the tide of hope receding to the wave as it builds? Whatever lies in our near future I would ask you to take stock of your compassion and work to make it as strong as your courage and intellect. Watching almost everyone you know loose their keel will be almost as much as a strong man can bear.

    We must be careful what we wish for.

    Let your heart be a refuge for the innocent. (wink)

    • michael August 14, 2017 at 5:57 pm #

      Have you discovered much compassion courage and intellect here?

  36. RIB August 14, 2017 at 12:39 pm #

    You can interview me anytime Squeaky Fromm

  37. Bruce E August 14, 2017 at 12:47 pm #

    These Nazis showed up with guns, sticks, shields, pepper spray, and torches. Things got out of hand and people got into fist fights. One person purposefully drove a car into a crowd and killed someone.

    They all went home alive, even the murderous driver of that car, while he didn’t go home, he went to his new home alive.

    For those who don’t know, that’s what we call “white privilege.”

    • thwack August 14, 2017 at 1:10 pm #

      They all went home alive, even the murderous driver of that car,


      Can someone state for the record the actual make and model of the car?

      Is it a Challenger?

      or a Charger?

      The mainstream media can’t seem to make up their minds.


      • JimInFlorida August 14, 2017 at 1:14 pm #

        What color was the car?

        Thought so. It hated those White people getting in its way and did what it had to do.

        • thwack August 14, 2017 at 1:21 pm #

          No, seriously Jim,

          if these “journalists” can’t even get something as simple as the make and model of the car correct, why should you trust any other information they come up with?

          • Bruce E August 14, 2017 at 1:39 pm #

            This day and age I declare Poe’s Law to be unassailable.

            It is only the very faintest tinge of hope that leads me to read this “thwack” character as satire…

          • thwack August 14, 2017 at 2:29 pm #

            Die thwacken sind unser Ungluck

        • elysianfield August 15, 2017 at 11:20 am #

          “White people getting in its way and did what it had to do.”

          “…and I did what I did for the kid….”

      • DA August 14, 2017 at 3:48 pm #

        Dodge Challenger, pre-2012 (it had the RAM emblem on the hood). Challenger is a 2 door, Charger is 4. I’ve owned a 2012 Challenger, now own a 2015 Charger. Both SRT392 models. Vroom, vroom! No crowd run-ins yet though.

        • DA August 14, 2017 at 9:00 pm #

          Can’t imagine Dodge is going to like the PR they’re getting out of this. Wouldn’t surprise me if muscle cars in general get drug through the muck with this before it’s all over.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 2:38 pm #

      Because we’re sick of the Antifas stomping us. No more easy, painless victories for you people. And you know very well that you will lose in combat against us.

      The police herded the Protestors towards the Communists and Anarchists where they were attacked. Naturally, they fought back. The Police just watched, making no effort to keep the parties separated. As I already said, they encouraged it. Then with the pretext established, they declared an Emergency and cleared the streets. They never intended to let the rally happen even though the Judge had ruled in our favor, and ACLU supported our claim. Law Suit time.

      • Bruce E August 14, 2017 at 2:52 pm #

        To defeat idiots like you, we need not fight you. We apparently only need to “herd” you into a place where your true selves show through, and you defeat yourselves.

        Sure, you’ll claim this murderous asshole using his car to mow down a crowd is an aberration, a “bad apple” or whatnot, but everybody knows the score now. Your masks are off — literally-so for the KKK. We see you clearly now.

        Bannon’s on his way out. Ivanka/Jared are back on the rise. Trump has already started to turn his back on you.

        You think this is about “combat,” in military terms. You’re an idiot. You don’t understand wtf is going on and how these things are resolved. You probably picture yourself, holding your gun, shooting me right between the eyes. One shot. One kill. Never miss. A fucking hero with a gun.

        You don’t understand that you’ve just shot yourself, and in something more-critical than your foot…

        • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 12:30 am #

          You just admitted that you are the mangy, attack dogs for Corporate Trash like Jared and Ivanka. I love it.

          Seriously, how is your philosophy any different? You believe all the same things they do about the mass immigration and the nation state and you do their bidding. Of course you have build your John Lennon/Coca Cola Castles in the Air, but no one with any brains believes that crap, least of all the “Divine” Couple.

          • Bruce E August 15, 2017 at 1:35 pm #

            People like you put Jared and Ivanka in charge, not me. You even had Bannon in a position of influence, and you let the “mangy attack dogs” trick you into showing your true selves and kill his spot. After Bannon goes, Miller will follow. What will be left is everything you say you hate. Libtards like myself had nothing to do with it. You did this to yourselves.

            You know nothing of my philosophy. I, like JHK, see a future of economic and energy contraction. I see that 5% of the world’s population cannot go on bogarting 25-30% of the word’s energy, so we are set up to take a double-hit — first the same hit everyone else in the world will take as energy consumption (and GDP along with it) contracts mercilously by a percent or two each and every year for at least the next century, and second by our share of that energy/GDP going down from 25-30% towards and closer to 5%. We may never get below 15-20% and still have more than our proportionate (to population) share, but the movement in that direction will crush us psychologically, even though we will still have it better than most of the rest of the world.

            In such a contraction, the LAST thing we need superimposed upon that is the racist/nationalist/fascist bullshit that folks like you are espousing. That’s just suicidal.

            Maybe that’s where we’re going, though. We’re a depressed people. Suicide by nationalism would certainly not be the first time a depressed people chose such a path to ruin…

        • elysianfield August 15, 2017 at 11:27 am #

          “Sure, you’ll claim this murderous asshole using his car to mow down a crowd is an aberration, a “bad apple” or whatnot, but everybody knows the score now. Your masks are off — literally-so for the KKK. We see you clearly now.”

          Another Idiot here…. If your vehicle is surrounded by a violent mob, and they are beating the vehicle with whatever weapons are at hand…driving through the crowd to avoid whatever the consequences of the mob might, in their tender mercies, provide for you is not to be considered idiotic….

          You, perhaps, have never been in that situation…withhold judgment….

          • Bruce E August 15, 2017 at 1:51 pm #

            Spin is as spin does…

            What itch does it scratch for you to imagine this sort of fiction to describe what happened? Why do you stretch so far to let this kid off the hook, at least rhetorically? Did you do the same sort of fiction writing for “thugs” like Trayvon Martin in his scary hoodie, or for that hulking charging Michael Brown?

          • elysianfield August 15, 2017 at 5:43 pm #

            Please google “Reginald Denny”.

            What itch? Primal fear…a gut-level effort to flee. Bruce, with all respect, you probably never have been assaulted by a crowd intent to do you harm. The kid will be thrown under the bus in the name of “Justice”, a sop to a howling crowd. Were I in his situation at the time of the crowd’s assault, I would have reacted similarly…slower in reverse, perhaps, but I would not stop.

            Brown, Martin? I have been in those situations many times…no fiction, here.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 8:47 pm #

      Yes, put all Anti-Fas with sticks to death. No more self hating whites in America. Ship them to Africa as slaves.

      • seawolf77 August 16, 2017 at 9:18 am #

        Didn’t the Stones have a song “Paint it White.”

  38. volodya August 14, 2017 at 12:50 pm #

    When we say various cultural authorities who are we talking about? To my mind it’s not only campus faculties and their speech police auxiliaries but also print publications that also assume for themselves the mantle of moral arbiter and assigner of blame.

    It’s truly astounding but these self-proclaimed magistrates, who purport to be the most enlightened of society, the best of the best, the pinnacle of what civilization can do, have been out busily fomenting for a while what we saw in Charlottesville. A lot of people have been saying it, enough with the insults and inflammatory rhetoric. But no, it was full speed ahead.

    And so now the self appointed magisterial proclamations all shriek the same shriek: condemn the neo-this, alt-hat. OK, but did the self-appointees happen to notice the guys carrying clubs in the anti-fascist contingent? Clearly visible they were in that video of the car-ramming. What do we suppose the clubs were for? Applied to human skulls these age-old devices can accomplish pretty much what that car did.

    Time to have a talk about the shit that pass for wisdom. Should media shut down hate-speech? OK, there’s a lot of hate-speech that maybe needs to be shut down. So maybe start with the butt-hole leakages from supposedly “progressive” media and campuses because if that stuff ain’t hate-speech then find me a better word.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 2:40 pm #

      Yes, believe it or not, even the idiot who rammed his car may have a case. Some say that his vehicle was being pelted with stones.

      Complete silence from the media. Absolute unity against Whites and Trump has bowed to it. This bodes very, very ill for the United States.

  39. FincaInTheMountains August 14, 2017 at 1:17 pm #

    Chronicles of the Civil War in the US: McMaster vs Steve Bannon

    The state of Virginia declared a state of emergency in connection with the clashes between the so-called alternative-right, which the liberal press characterizes as neo-Nazis, and the AntiFa, whom it describes as extremely leftist, although in fact they are neo-Trotskyites.

    And with all my dislike for the neo-Nazis, it was they and the AntiFa who showed yesterday that the liberal blah-blah that they can rock the boat for as much as they want, without eventually overturning it, is a pure idiotism.

    And their religious faith that the people will suck it up if the liberals manage to overthrow Trump by manipulating the judicial system, resembles not 1991 in the USSR, but February 1917 in the Russian Empire. And in order to stop this madness you need to start jailing not those who felt their chance that the boat has already rocked quite strongly, but those who have been rocking it for 25 years with a break for Bush and 3 years for Obama.

    Moreover, they continue to do this and in the events in Charlottesville they saw an excellent reason to accuse Trump of supporting neo-Nazism and racism on the grounds that he accused both sides of these events, and they demand that he declare alternative-rightists terrorists, and give a pass to the extreme left and Trotskyites and not only in Charlottesville, but also on all future unrest, which they will arrange and meet resistance.

    And if Trump succumbs to this pressure, it will be interpreted as repenting that he is supported by neo-Nazis, that is, recognition that he is a protégé of neo-Nazis.

    All this translates into a confrontation between the chief strategist of the White House Steve Banon and the adviser for national security McMaster, who was shown on all TV channels, saying what Trump does not want to say, since the special services obviously reported to him that both the “Nazis” and “KKK” were as if from Hollywood and paid for by Soros, and the Trotskyites, who where the initiators of the unrest, apparently paid from the same source.

    And when McMaster is outraged by the support of alternative right-wingers by Steve Bannon, who in his films in hatred of Nazism rises to “Ordinary Nazism” by Michael Romm, and in the depths of understanding surpasses him, it’s somehow difficult to forget that McMaster was imposed on Trump as an adviser on national security after the clintonoids succeeded in dismissing General Flynn from this position for ensuring the timely evacuation of Russian diplomats from the United States on January 1, 2017.

    And it’s also hard not to remember that these same people, outraged by neo-Nazism in the United States, for some reason, with the same passion, are supporting the outspoken neo-Nazis in Ukraine, Poland, the Baltics, Romania and the republics of the former Yugoslavia.

    • messianicdruid August 15, 2017 at 12:14 pm #

      Classist hypocrites playing victim hypocrites.

  40. Kevvia Knack August 14, 2017 at 1:43 pm #

    The fact that the driver of the car lived isn’t an example of white privilege. Yes I agree that black men are singled out by cops but it’s hard to imagine the cops shooting the driver with 300 cell phone cameras recording the whole thing….and thank you DA for posting the book link

    • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 2:46 pm #


    • elysianfield August 15, 2017 at 11:33 am #

      “Yes I agree that black men are singled out by cops”

      How so? In predominately black areas, how do the police “single out” black men, when everyone you see is black? By what metric? For what reason?

      That black men are being put-upon by cops is not-necessarily accurate…but it is a warm and fuzzy assertion by the race-apologists, and closely held.

  41. capt spaulding August 14, 2017 at 2:38 pm #

    Absolutely Bean. While I have opinions about much of what is going on, I do not let it influence my decisions regarding the future. You are correct on many levels. Hopefully, I will run into other sane people like you in my journey into the future. Moderation in all things but the pursuit of liberty.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 2:46 pm #

      So do Whites have the right to protest and organize on their own behalf or not? Today’s post describes any such White as a mouth breathing, limbic monster. Thus our whole history is dismissed because assuredly, the Founders were FOR their people and against the Indians and the Blacks. This was prior to any political battle they might be having with other Whites like the English, French, or Spanish.

      They were just more mouth breathers according to the new wisdom. You don’t see it because you aren’t capable of logical consistency. But the Left is – oh are they ever. All White Statues are coming down, Cap. Just wait.

      • JimInFlorida August 14, 2017 at 6:50 pm #

        Mouth-breathing Whites. Limbic monsters. Our whole history dismissed.

        Watch this seemingly unrelated video clip from FIFTY years ago:


        Just detach from 2017 for a moment and IMMERSE YOURSELVES in a time and scene that is LILY WHITE. Contemplate how Limbic White Brits INVENTED a magical system called, “Auto Land.”

        Completely bathe yourselves in the beautiful WHITENESS of the video. See White Europe when it was clean and worth traveling to. Imagine experiencing a comfortable trip from White France to White Britain. Meditate deeper and feel the confidence in a system that worked well and in fellow passengers who were civilized.

        Now…..when the video and music ends…., IMMEDIATELY click to the following YouTube video to bring you back to 2017


        [CAUTION] Have a bottle of your favorite hard liquor ready to handle the shock of coming forward. Many don’t survive the return trip….

        • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 12:40 am #

          Naw, it was too much for me, the first few seconds. We threw away the beautiful world we had built – all because we listened to the “ship wreckers” as Commander Rockwell called them; those who create false charts than lead ships of state onto the rocks to be destroyed and looted.

          I watched the first few mintues of the first video, but wasn’t in the mood for the rest. But yes, well done and beautiful. I get the same feeling you describe from old movies, particularly Jimmy Stewart, particularly the murder mystery set in San Francisco. I’m blanking on the title right now.

          Whites were healthier, better dressed, and better looking. Happier, more polite, and liking each other far more.

          • JimInFlorida August 15, 2017 at 6:56 am #

            Well Janos, when you’re well-girded (after a flew slugs on the bottle), try it again. What I was wanting for you to experience was the shock of coming forward in time to the present!

            You’ve REALLY GOT TO SEE THE STORY DEVELOP so you can enjoy contemplating the magic of Auto Land and the White British engineers who invented it.

            That’s why I said that few survive the return trip from a humble BEA video about the magic of “Auto Land” to, “Smell Yo Dick” and the horror of waking up in 2017.

  42. capt spaulding August 14, 2017 at 2:45 pm #

    Just had Father Coughlin explain to me and his many listeners that the Fascist, Nationalist groups down there aren’t right wingers, in fact they are leftists. I’ve noticed that he seems to speak in capitol letters all the time, with exclamation points at the end of each sentence. He’s been doing it for 30 years, so somebody listens to this drivel. Like he says: Don’t listen to the drive by media, I’ll tell you what’s really going on. Thank you Father Coughlin, you’ve told me just what I want to hear.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 2:49 pm #

      They are both Left and Right and neither Left nor Right. We don’t accept the spectrum as given. We have our own line based on our own principles.

      Do the Jews accept Left and Right as given? No, they are for themselves first and foremost. Trotsky used to have lunch with Rothschild. The Left and Right nonsense is for the hoi polloi, the hapless goyim. Do you want to be that or do you want to be something better?

  43. malthuss August 14, 2017 at 3:18 pm #

    Barak Hussein, after biggest killing of enlisted men on US soil since PH.

    He “floored it” in REVERSE when he REALLY wanted to escape.

    Come on Malpiss, you can do better than that?
    I just did, n#gg#r

    • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 3:23 pm #

      I doubt anyone here believes that Sir Thwack is Black.

      • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 3:41 pm #

        Bruce E August 14, 2017 at 1:39 pm # This day and age I declare Poe’s Law to be unassailable.
        It is only the very faintest tinge of hope that leads me to read this “thwack” character as satire.

        What motivates Thwack?
        Poes Law, I will have to check.

        • thwack August 14, 2017 at 7:04 pm #

          Im black, my teef are yellow,

          and Im poe.

          now get off my dick

  44. GhostOfHam August 14, 2017 at 3:27 pm #

    “a dark animus in the national soul.” Sometimes Carl Jung seems to me as spooky as the old matriarch upstairs in your books.

  45. Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 3:27 pm #

    Anonymous took control over the Daily Stormer for a few hour but it is not back under White control. The Government of Nigeria flew Weev in and he helped Anglin out hack the hackers. Yes, Anlgin lives in Nigeria where he is safe from feral Anti-Fa. He thanked the President for his help. It’s all stranger than fiction, but there you are. Good men must come together to fight this Evil. Every mainstream figure is on board – even Hannity and Limbaugh. Shameful.


    • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 3:39 pm #

      not or now? you mean now?

      • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 8:01 pm #

        Yeah, now, but never mind. Most of it is just Anglin having fun. He trolls his own followers. If I can interpret, Anonymous did take over and he and Weev beat it back. Whether Weev flew in or not, I have no idea. The Nigerian role is probably a complete hoax, but amazingly, he apparently does live there.

        • messianicdruid August 15, 2017 at 12:24 pm #

          Sure, with a room full of cash.

  46. malthuss August 14, 2017 at 3:38 pm #

    I recall seeing the Latinos lined up, for free stuff at various local charities at Thanksgiving and Christmas.

    I found this at Yahoo.—

    ‘I donated to the food banks at thanksgiving and christmas until one day I saw those on line receiving the food…they were all hispanic illegals loading up bags of food. They couldn’t speak English which was a dead give away…
    needless to say it was the last year I donated !’

  47. Zoltar August 14, 2017 at 4:02 pm #

    I regard many sources of “journalism” to be corporate tools, and most journalists to have shit for brains, yet I am still shocked at the across-the-board incomprehension in the press today. They are all trying to sell us the notion that our atrocious president is the cause of the rise of right wing radicalism, when it ought to be obvious that he is merely one of its byproducts.
    The right wing assholes duking it out with left wing assholes in Charlottesville yesterday weren’t there hollering because Trump told them to; they were there because the system has hosed them so comprehensively that there is no foreseeable path for their situation to be ameliorated. Voting for Trump, like brandishing swastikas, was just another way for them to express their impotent rage.
    Not to be indelicate, they are generally more comfortable with weapons and with the idea of violence than liberals are. I find them more loathsome than the left but, if I were a betting man, I would not bet on the lefties in future skirmishes.

    • tucsonspur August 14, 2017 at 4:36 pm #

      Most of the political violence during the last year and a half has been initiated by the Left.

      But they squeal loudly, hysterically, when given their own medicine.

      Simply put, the Liberals are mindless pussies. Show them a gun and they’ll start to denounce it as the symbol of phallic dominance, and then go into a diatribe about male insecurity and latent homosexual tendencies.

      • malthuss August 14, 2017 at 5:52 pm #

        Report: ‘Unite the Right’ Organizer Jason Kessler Was Obama Supporter Involved With Occupy Movement
        http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-1 … porter-8-m

        Hey @SenJohnMcCain & @HillaryClinton help us understand your support of Ukrainian Neo-Nazis…it’s terribly confusing. #maidencoup

        Everybodys All …
        Anyone with an ounce of sense who saw the couple Nazi flags at the rally on Saturday knew that this was not an organic rally of conservative Americans who btw fought nazi Germany to the bitter end of that regime. No one that I know would ever carry that Nazi flag to a rally of any kind because of what it represented. Imo this smells of George Soros and deep state orchestration to no end. What or where this leads is anyones guess but I do know people better wake up to what is going on inside our government quickly. I fear that this is just the leadup to ousting president Trump and the talking points were all over cable before the car hit anyone

        • tucsonspur August 14, 2017 at 8:15 pm #

          What we don’t know can strike the biggest blow. The trap of deception belies the perception and then shatters the misconception.

  48. tucsonspur August 14, 2017 at 4:16 pm #

    “…has the flavor of a ‘first shot’ in a new civil war” JHK

    It will be flare ups and skirmishes only, until one side or the other decides to purge, and that doesn’t seem close to happening. How would it be organized and carried out?

    But the Left continues to attack. Even after Trump specifically called out the KKK and Nazis, the likes of Carl Bernstein and other media mouth pieces aren’t satisfied. And Bernstein is saying that many in the military and Congress consider him unfit for office, hinting again at going the way of the 25th. That would purge Trump only, not the Right. And then, watch the civil volatility index skyrocket.

    One local paper proclaimed, “White Nationalists Kill Three”.
    And on the military-sexual front lines we have this:


    There is no end to their onslaught. Let’s start destroying street signs named after prominent Lefties and tearing down statues of MLK.
    Since Trump will be leading no purge, we’ll just have to beat them at their own game and grind the bastards down.

    • messianicdruid August 15, 2017 at 12:37 pm #

      please do NOT drag it through town at the end of a rope.

  49. capt spaulding August 14, 2017 at 5:53 pm #

    Just read online that the nazis weren’t just marching with their tiki torches, they were looking for the Ark of the Covenant.

  50. FincaInTheMountains August 14, 2017 at 8:14 pm #

    The modern world is approaching some very important milestone. This is evidenced by the analysis of the world news feed. The fact is that the news tape has been loaded with a variety of information noise, and this, in principle, is a common thing.

    But what has been observed for the past six months, after the election of US President Donald Trump, does not fit into any framework.

    Information noises have become so strong that they blow out any small attempts to see the real outline of events. And the Russian central mass media in this respect do not lag behind the global ones, which try to obscure the processes that really occur in the world as much as possible, or give absolutely ridiculous to insanity interpretations of what is happening.

    The situation in the world has become so acute that two global world parties, both having their center in the United States are ready to go from a cold state, to attempts to jail the leaders of the opponents, either through a coup attempt or a Civil War.

    In early August, the political struggle in Washington went into a new plane. Now the administration of the White House and the Trump loyalists, on the one hand, and the opponents of the President, on the other, has set about developing criminal cases against each other.

    Thus, the head of the House’s special committee, Devin Nunes, called on the US Attorney General to appoint a special prosecutor on cases involving improper handling of confidential state information by representatives of the Obama administration and Hillary Clinton’s entourage.

    If the US Justice Department takes this step, two independent special prosecutors will work in Washington at once. One is on the RussiaGate, i.e., will continue to investigate the surroundings of Donald Trump, the second – for those alleged violations committed by people from the Hillary and Obama teams, as well as from the leadership of the Democratic Party.

    This is an unprecedented case.

    In fact, two political forces (not necessarily strictly affiliated with the two leading parties) will investigate each other.

  51. JimInFlorida August 14, 2017 at 8:19 pm #

    I’m dedicating this video to JANET.


    • FincaInTheMountains August 14, 2017 at 8:22 pm #

      Are you much better?

      Aren’t you the one who advocates killing off the entire Western upper management class?

      • JimInFlorida August 14, 2017 at 10:15 pm #

        You are deliberately mischaracterizing my proven cure to deter WW3. Upper management is often wicked and insolent but, they are nothing but hirelings for the REAL POWERS of the world.

        I am appealing to Vladimir Putin to do his moral duty and eradicate the evil, the avaricious, and THE GUILTY. The ones who have the SOLE POWER to kill off billions for their psychopathic globalist designs! The billionaires.

        I AM BETTER for demanding that The Universe mobilize whoever is put on this Earth to combat and eradicate them.

        I’ll cite the epic story of ancient times, the Mahabharata. Lord Krishna heard the Earth PLEAD to be relieved of her burden of incarnated demons. To do so would require war on a scale that has not been seen since those ancient times (5000+ years ago). Sometimes, a collective evil is so powerful that extraordinary means are necessary to deter or eradicate them.

        Finca, which is better? The deaths of billions following WW3, or, to DETER WW3 by terrorizing and EXTERMINATING (if necessary) the PRIME CAUSE of geopolitical forces driving the world towards nuclear war? The billionaires. The Top 0.1%.

  52. BackRowHeckler August 14, 2017 at 8:42 pm #

    Jim your blog sounds like the Democratic Party platform from 2016, an appeal to myriad aggrieved groups to vote their gender, their sexual proclivities, and above all their race.

    It looks like whitey took that message to heart and voted in Trump.


    • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 8:56 pm #

      How is a youtube video a “blog”? And why shouldn’t Whites vote their interests like everyone else? Do you not eat in order to feel better than other people? Of course it means the end of America – they should have thought of that before they set out to replace us.

      This is one of your most clueless posts ever. And that’s saying something.

      • messianicdruid August 15, 2017 at 12:44 pm #

        America will survive the United States.

  53. Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 8:52 pm #

    Big deal in the news about teachers dealing with an unruly Autistic kid. I worked in such a school once: no one would bat an eye at this. It’s just what you have to do when they slip into an animal state. The utter disconnect from reality is so typical of our Establishment now. Of course “mom” buys into it, the self righteousness is just impossible to resist.

    The rest of the news is nothing but how evil Whites are, including White cops. Their heroism in Cville was only conditional. They have to be hurting Whites or helping Blacks in order to justify their existence.

    • The Articulate Infant August 14, 2017 at 10:39 pm #

      An open question to Thwack – and Janos – feel free to contribute – I appreciate the candour of you both in your commentary on controversial matters. At the risk of sounding facetious I think my learned colleague, onehunglo might be inclined to say of you both, ‘you wise one(s) indeed’ So my question, Thwack you were asking an earlier commenter (karl dehrmann) if anyone in his family voiced displeasure or disapproval of his marrying someone not of the same racial stock as himself. I did not find your question impudent Thwack, but I do have to ask – have you – for want of a better phrase – tasted the diversity rainbow? That is to say, conducted relationships (intimate or otherwise) with others of another race? Why/why not? If yes, have these experiences altered or challenged your perceptions of racial matters? I ask purely out of interest, not to be insolent or to provoke.

      • tucsonspur August 14, 2017 at 10:59 pm #

        The Spur just can’t help it. Yuk, OMG, the cloying puke!

        “Tasted the diversity rainbow?”

      • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 11:17 pm #

        I’ve had Black friends and even a Black housemate once. He agreed Blacks were a lower race and we got along well for the most part.

        You must be new around here: Thwack constantly boasts of how many White women he has defiled.

        • seawolf77 August 15, 2017 at 11:54 am #

          Remember that Seinfeld episode where George had to prove to himself he had black friends and he calls up Seinfeld’s former exterminator and asks him to dinner. You can’t hold a candle to Costanza Janos.

  54. StillFarmin August 14, 2017 at 10:37 pm #

    Gosh, they only thing as predictable as JHK making this whole thing into the fault of the college profs and the coloreds and the queers … is … oh, I don’t know, JHK being fantastically, utterly, impossibly dead wrong about financial markets for what, like the 9th year in a row now?

    Oh well … entertainment comes in many forms.

    • messianicdruid August 15, 2017 at 12:50 pm #

      Most of us think juggling three balls is difficult. They have been adding balls for nine years. We are confident this will not continue – no need to call it a prediction.

  55. KesaAnna August 14, 2017 at 10:52 pm #

    ” The lesson of the Tamir Rice incident: foolish behavior can have tragic consequences. — JHK ”

    Foolish behavior I would think , would include giving someone a special status for what I could just as well have done, or not done , myself.

    Presumably, I am not paying police to practice self-defense.

    i’m paying them to die like robots for the not always wise citizenry.

    No ?

    Then what the fuck am I paying them for , except , as I said, what i could just as well do , or not do , myself ?

  56. KesaAnna August 14, 2017 at 11:08 pm #

    ” let me own your daughter for a week, and then lets see if you answer with the same brain tumor? ”

    Well…………..for something like 50,000 years the two primary authorities were the family and ( some sort of ) religion .

    Then somebody got the bright idea that some stranger who doesn’t even know me might better manage my daughter than I , for some reason , any reason , or really no reason at all.

    for a long time after someone got that bright idea, granted , it didn’t really amount to much.
    But then people invented flintlocks and safety matches and , I dunno, I guess it went to their heads and they started to think themselves Gods.

    ” let me own your daughter for a week ‘

    refer to what i just wrote .

    This is not already the case ?

    As i have said before , I was born in , and spent the first ten years of my life in , the German Democratic Republic , and generally i think fully 90% of these comparisons are bullocks.

    My daughter , ( if I had one ) would belong to me not one bit more in the USA than she would have in the DDR .

    • pequiste August 15, 2017 at 10:25 am #

      “…comparisons are bullocks.” Kesa

      I believe you were looking for “bollocks” but besides that your post has merit.

      On the other hand, the Yzlamik jihadi, orthodox, moderate, radical or fundamentalist, and the regular Abdullah-in-the-street doesn’t want to own your daughters for a week. Nope. They want permanent title to the chattel.

  57. tucsonspur August 14, 2017 at 11:14 pm #

    They just toppled a Confederate statue in Durham. Kicking, stomping it while down, as they would flesh and bone.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 11:19 pm #

      General Lee was a good man but now our worship shall turn him into a God – a veritable incarnation of Odin.

      • messianicdruid August 15, 2017 at 12:57 pm #

        Worshipping no one is better than worshipping [ or making ] a false g-o-d. Lee would not approve, neither would Martin Luther King.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 1:12 pm #

          Martin Luther King? Dude, you’re too much. That’s right up there with Sophia’s “robbing Africa of her people”!

          Can’t even say the word God? Very Talmudic!

          • sophia August 16, 2017 at 11:03 pm #

            Janos, if you come up to a land that isn’t yours, take away people in chains and put them on your ship and take them home, that’s robbery. Isn’t it? What am I missing?

      • seawolf77 August 15, 2017 at 3:03 pm #

        Being top of your class at West Point does not make him a good man. It makes him a good cadet. Historians have pondered for years on why General Robert E. Lee has been given a pass. What is the cult of personality around General Lee? Nobody knows. He owned slaves. He fought in the courts to keep them. He was most certainly not an abolitionist. His military exploits are thin at best, and his orders at Gettysburg to take the high ground were idiotic. I have searched and have found no reason to honor this man. None. Yes write about him in the history books, but there is no need to name schools or highways after him.

        • malthuss August 15, 2017 at 9:56 pm #

          Better him than Nelson Necklaces Mandela. And there are places in USA named after that horrible african.

        • elysianfield August 16, 2017 at 12:34 am #

          “Being top of your class at West Point does not make him a good man.”

          Well, it certainly defines the potential to be a great one. I do recall from the ’60’s that businesses would immediately hire a washout from any of the academies, on the premise that the person had to be of such obvious quality just to having been admitted that they would be far and above the quality of usual applicants.

          So Lee owned slaves… All of our heroes have clay feet of one sort or another…Jesus, you act like he was a founding member of NAMBLA. Slaves were, I am sure, a status symbol…just like a pair of Jordan’s, or Thwack’s two Cadillacs. Accounts of his life I have read seem to indicate he was a decent, intelligent human being.

          Let the record show that I never owned a slave, nor a pair of Jordan’s…but I did once own a ’57 Caddy…a pink ’57 Caddy.

          • seawolf77 August 16, 2017 at 9:14 am #

            Hey I am from Louisiana. I know what goes on down there and I know what makes the place tick. I also know the code they talk and all the dog whistles. Trump was playing the classics yesterday. The woman who got run over deserved it just like Rodney King deserved it.

    • KesaAnna August 14, 2017 at 11:38 pm #

      again I will point out , according to the U.S. governments own census, 90% of those who fought for , suffered for, and died for , the Confederate States of America were not slave owners.

      The implied , but never spoken, implication is that to defend yourself when your territory , your neighborhood, your very home, is invaded , is too mean and selfish a motive to warrant respect.

      But to invade the home of another, never mind that we don’t even fucking know those people , for some ” Good Cause ” , we cannot trumpet that loudly enough.

      I see not one bit of charity in any of this .

      Only the most thinly disguised malice.

      • Anon1970 August 15, 2017 at 10:54 am #

        Exemptions from the Confederate draft favored the elite classes of society including plantation owners. The fighting burden fell mostly on poor white males. Read more here: ” White Trash” by Nancy Isenberg.

  58. Janos Skorenzy August 14, 2017 at 11:37 pm #

    “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.”–John F. Kennedy

    On December 6, 1969, the Altamont Speedway Free Festival was held in Northern California, featuring Santana, The Jefferson Airplane, Crosby, Stills, Nash, and Young, and The Rolling Stones. It was supposed to be a West Coast version of Woodstock, which had been held four months before in upstate New York. But Altamont descended into violence and mayhem, with one murder and three accidental deaths, plus countless brawls and petty crimes. Along with the Tate-La Bianca murders a few months before, the events at Altamont were widely trumpeted as the death of the Sixties counter-culture.

    I fear that the Charlottesville Unite the Right rally on Saturday, August 12th, will go down in history as the Altamont of the Alt Right. Unless, of course, we do something to stop it.

    No, it is not fair. But it wasn’t really fair with Altamont, either. First, you can’t discredit a whole cultural movement by cherry-picking a few unflattering events and proclaiming that they somehow reveal its “essence.” Second, the “murder victim,” Meredith Hunter, turned out to be no victim at all. Hunter, stoned out of his mind on meth, pulled out a gun and pointed it at the crowd, at which point Alan Passaro, a member of Hell’s Angels who had been hired to provide security, stabbed him to death. Passaro was arrested and charged with murder, but the whole incident had been filmed, and he was acquitted on the grounds of self-defense. But by that time, nothing could undo the mainstream media’s narrative, which had taken hold of the public mind.

    Fortunately for us, the establishment has lost a great deal of its media control. The truth can get out, if we work hard enough.

    So what is the truth about Charlottesville?

    First, we need to hold fast to the larger truth that the true cause of racial hatred and violence is, of course, the very diversity that our enemies proclaim as our greatest strength and highest political value, trumping freedom of thought, freedom of speech, and freedom of assembly. White Nationalism is a movement of peace, because we are the only movement that offers a workable solution to racial and ethnic violence–namely, to create racially and ethnically homogeneous homelands for all peoples. Until White Nationalists get our way, there will only be increased racial and ethnic hatred and violence, which the Left will do its best to conceal and to blame upon whites.

    Ethnic violence is a feature of diverse societies. The greater the diversity, the greater the violence. Whites are told to learn to love it when Muslims and other non-whites are raping, stabbing, and blowing up whites. Did the Left really think that whites would not fight back? Diversity simply means fewer white people. Did the Left never imagine that we would eventually say no? As non-whites continue to flood our societies, more and more whites will resist, and it will inevitably turn hateful and violent. But that’s not the world we wanted. It is the world that the Left wanted. They’d better learn to love it. Or they can listen to reason and allow us to create the world we want, with separate homelands for everyone. Until that day comes, the political establishment bears 100% of the blame for the hatred and violence that are the inevitable and predictable consequences of their policies.

    Second, although the lying press is working overtime to foster the impression that Unite the Right started the violence, blame has to be laid at the feet of the police, the city government, and the state of Virginia. Unite the Right followed the law at every step of the way. When Leftists in the city government pulled the permit for the rally, Unite the Right went to court, and the city was ordered to let the rally continue. At that point, the city government decided that if they could not stop the rally, they would not protect it from the Leftist thugs — antifa, Black Lives Matter, etc. — which, predictably, led to violent attacks against Unite the Right. As Unite the Right entered Lee Park, the police did not separate them from Leftists but made them walk a gauntlet of screaming protesters. When Unite the Right was attacked with pepper spray, as well as potentially lethal weapons like bricks, acid, and an improvised flamethrower, the police did not arrest the attackers. Then, to compound the outrage, the state of Virginia declared Unite the Right an unlawful assembly — even though they had followed the law — but allowed the lawless Leftist mob to continue its work. The police then broke up Unite the Right and dispersed its attendees — again with no police protection — into the arms of the Leftist mob.

    At about 1:45 pm on Saturday, 20-year-old James Fields, who had attended United the Right, was involved in a car crash that killed one woman and injured 19 other people. Based on video of the event, Fields was driving through Charlottesville at a normal rate of speed when his car apparently came under attack by the Leftist mob. Perhaps fearing for his safety, Fields stepped on the gas and crashed into a car in front of him. At that point, another video clearly shows a mob of Leftist thugs rushing to the rear of his car, at which point Fields hit reverse and fled the scene. Fields has been charged with second degree murder. Of course the legal presumption of innocence has been completely discarded by the establishment lynch mob, both Left and Right, who are declaring Fields to be a “terrorist,” and are referring to him as “James Alex Fields” as if he were Lee Harvey Oswald.

    I hope Fields kept his mouth shut and asked for a lawyer, because if he did, I think he can make a very plausible case that he acted in self-defense. White Nationalists should do everything we can to help him mount an effective defense. As for the victims, they were members of a violent mob, and if that mob attacked Fields, none of them are innocent. Ultimately, though, the city fathers of Charlottesville are to blame.

    But let’s consider the worst case scenario: James Fields really is a murderer. Again, we must blame the Charlottesville city government, which turned its city over to violent Leftist mobs. Their goal, after all, was not just to allow Leftists to attack White Nationalists, but to goad White Nationalists to fight back so that the mainstream media could paint us as the aggressors. Even if James Fields is a murderer, it was very much part of the Leftist plan. Moreover, even if James Fields is a murderer, “not all White Nationalists” are murderers. Nothing James Fields did can in any way erase the necessity and righteousness of our cause. Even if James Fields is a murderer, that does not imply that the white race must die.

    The lawlessness continued into the next day, when on Sunday the 13th, Jason Kessler, the organizer of Unite the Right, tried to give a press conference. He was attacked by a mob and silenced while police again did nothing.

    If the city of Charlottesville had done its job to protect the constitutional rights of Unite the Right to assemble and express its political ideas, there would have been no deaths, no injuries, no violence of any type. Everyone involved in Unite the Right needs to sue the city of Charlottesville for engineering this fiasco. (You can be assured that the Leftists who were injured will try to sue the city for gibs.) We need to get the city government and police brass under oath, find the ringleaders, and demand that criminal charges be pressed.

    Unite the Right is being portrayed as a hideous eruption of Right-wing violence. This is a complete inversion of the truth. The problem with Unite the Right is Left-wing violence and Left-wing censorship and deplatforming.

    We demand an end to Left-wing violence, censorship, and deplatforming.

    We demand that antifa and Black Lives Matter be declared terrorist organizations.
    We demand that Air B&B, Facebook, Twitter, Amazon.com, YouTube, and Google be regulated as public utilities so that they cannot deny service to any paying customer on the grounds of ideology.
    We demand legislation forbidding all US companies from adopting politically correct terms of service and employment. All private companies must be forced by law to respect freedom of speech and thought.
    This is a call to arms. In the coming days and weeks, I want every one of my readers to both speak the truth about what happened in Charlottesville and also use this as an opportunity to impeach the credibility of the mainstream media and the political establishment. You need to speak out among your friends and relatives. You need to speak out on social media. You need to raid comment threads. You need to call into radio shows. You need to hone your talking points and share them with our comrades and allies. And you need to steel yourself for a long, hard fight, because the enemy never sleeps, never takes a day off, and never flags in flogging its lies to the masses. But it will feel good. It will give us back some of the unity, purpose, and camaraderie that we enjoyed during the Trump campaign.

    This is only a setback if we allow it to be. We must seize upon it as our chance to expose the lies and hypocrisy of the Left and reassert the righteousness of our cause. This is an Übermensch moment for our movement. An obstacle has been thrown in our path. We need to surmount it. We have been presented with a crisis. We have to turn it into an opportunity.

    So what are you waiting for?

    Greg Johnson, Counter-Currents.com

    • DA August 15, 2017 at 7:08 am #

      Nice post Janos. Much food for thought here.

    • seawolf77 August 15, 2017 at 8:16 am #

      Altamont was hailed as the end to the 1960’s because it happened in December of 1969. Duh? Occurring as it did the same weekend as “The Greatest Game,” between Texas and Arkansas for the national championship and attended by Nixon and George HW Bush, and the last major college football game where participants on both teams were all white and the Monday morning arrest of the Manson Family, it makes quite a bookend to the JFK assassination.

      • BackRowHeckler August 15, 2017 at 11:11 am #

        Interestingly enough a book came out about Altamont recently; now that really was a Clusterf-ck!. Jagger had a romantic notion about the Hells Angels and a grudge against the police and insisted the Angels and not the cops provide security at the event, so law enforcement was not even aware a concert was occurring until the last minute. The concert was hastily thrown together by shady promoters, some of which were conmen and actual criminals, in a defunct auto race track outside Livermore about 50 miles east of San Francisco. Altamont was about the 3rd choice of venues but all that was available at such short notice. No amenities, no traffic or crowd control and the crowd right up against the bandstand, rampant drug and alcohol abuse, paranoid Hells Angels in charge of security — a job for which they were not even remotely qualified — all tweeked up on meth and beer, it was a recipe for disaster, and disaster did happen. So ended the vaunted 1960s and the Summer of Love, in a bloodbath.

        And 400 miles south the Manson family had put their point on the fabulous 60s in their own particular way a few months earlier.


        • elysianfield August 16, 2017 at 12:16 am #

          I did not attend Altamont, but did drive by the venue that Saturday during the festival. The divided four lane interstate (580)was choked to two lanes, with vehicles parked into the number 2 lanes in each direction, with the center median completely covered with parked vehicles…this was a mile plus from the festival. Smelled of anarchy.

  59. nsa August 15, 2017 at 12:41 am #

    This trashy epoch begins to resemble the Weimar Republic years of post WW1 Germany: pitched street battles between the brown shirts and the commies with the authorities standing down, a docile debased public viewing events through the prism of the LugenPresse, and of course the clever jooies instigating at every turn in a so far successful attempt to divide, conquer, and rule. Will the continuing chaos and corruption result in the rise of an American Fuhrer and a rebirth of the White Race? Stay tuned to your ZioVision box as the Counter Revolution will be televised…….

    • axisboldaslove August 15, 2017 at 2:52 am #

      I would like to suggest that we stop referring to stupid people who blindly attack or lash out at others as having “reptile brains”. Most reptiles will shy away from aggressors. Reptiles are most content while basking in the sun, munching on a few tasty grasshoppers (I’ve had them deep fried and lightly salted and they are DELICIOUS!) and tend to scurry away as fast as possible when approached by those who would do them harm (if you approach in a cautious, respectful manner, the will often simply stay put and simply do a few push ups). Now if these latter attributes can be accepted as a proper definition for “reptile brain”, I would have absolutely no problem being referred to in that manner, thank you very much!

      • KesaAnna August 15, 2017 at 3:53 am #

        Given that JHK’s beloved star spangled banner is more of a historical foot note than the Confederate flag ,

        What is left really but hollow ad hominems ?

      • elysianfield August 15, 2017 at 11:56 pm #

        “scurry away as fast as possible when approached by those who would do them harm (if you approach in a cautious, respectful manner, the will often simply stay put and simply do a few push ups). ”

        Years ago, my wife was sitting alone on our outside patio/deck when a large bull-lizard approached her and began to do push-ups. The wife later told me that she was intimidated, and immediately returned to the house. God’s Truth.

  60. KesaAnna August 15, 2017 at 3:50 am #

    ” And one of these days somebody is going to ask the uncomfortable question, “How come if a bi-sexual can be happy with either sex, can you say that they don’t have a choice???” Don’t they kind of have the ultimate choice? ”

    It was heterosexuals who first claimed they couldn’t help it, that they were hard-wired that way .

    Divorce, adultery, promiscuity quickly followed , and never mind that you couldn’t possibly come up with a better strategy for running the middle class into fiscal ruin , as if sex between two consenting adults does not involve others , though it clearly does , as if there were no financial consequences to promiscuity , though supposedly we are capitalists , and apostles of free will , who believe that there is no free lunch.

    And to this day the stubborn denial that that did strip you of any defense against LGBT .

    but what is good for the goose , is good for the gander , whether you like it or not.

    just as it makes no difference your feelings, or lack thereof , regarding the Confederacy.

    Pass over the blanket stigmatization of these people in silence , and you have endorsed the same against you in future.

  61. FincaInTheMountains August 15, 2017 at 6:40 am #

    The rockets capable to bring to 60 US cities 60 nuclear warheads, that North Korea already has, were made in Ukraine AFTER the Maidan coup d’etat!!!

    North Korea’s Missile Success Is Linked to Ukrainian Plant, Investigators Say


  62. seawolf77 August 15, 2017 at 8:08 am #

    Goddammit there was a “Janos Convention” in Charlottesville and nobody announced it. What the hell is a matter with our “Nazi” press? It doesn’t matter. I saw “Janos Rules” signs everywhere. If the town had a modicum of graciousness they would run a gas line to the Robert E. Lee statue and have an eternal flame coming out of each and every meatus.

    • Q. Shtik August 15, 2017 at 11:34 am #

      What the hell is [a] matter with… – seawolf77


      Where I’m from the expression is ‘the’ matter, not ‘a’ matter.

      But thanks anyway for ‘meatus,’ a totally new word to me.
      Sample sentence: I pooped my pants from the rectal meatus.

      • thwack August 15, 2017 at 5:42 pm #


        I had two Cadillacs but I rectum bowf

        • seawolf77 August 16, 2017 at 10:04 am #


  63. FincaInTheMountains August 15, 2017 at 9:56 am #

    Clintonoids in the US are desperately trying to counter apparent economic successes of the Trump administration with renewed to the level of hysteria attacks on him in connection with Charlottesville’s violence, which I believe they arranged themselves – one more time proving that they are not only the Party of War, but also the Party of World Economic Crisis.

    • malthuss August 15, 2017 at 9:57 pm #

      You are forgiven.

  64. messianicdruid August 15, 2017 at 10:19 am #

    Bruce E asked Janos S, “Does it help you to make-believe that I, and people like me, “think all Whites are evil”? ”

    I was really enjoying this exchange but for some reason it died.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 12:51 pm #

      I called his bluff: they do hate Whites – unless the Whites hate themselves perhaps. This kind of White worm may be tolerated for a time by the minority brothers, subject to constant scrutiny, self correction, and put downs.

      Sharpton today suggested taking down the Jefferson Memorial. This is how they win: press the advantage when they have it. It might happen unbelievably fast. The Cuckservatives will be saying, Well I never meant for this to happen. Fools are very dangerous people.

      • elysianfield August 15, 2017 at 5:54 pm #

        Al Sharpton is a man of very…limited gifts.

        • Q. Shtik August 15, 2017 at 6:53 pm #

          He DOES have a gift for losing significant weight and then keeping it off. Oprah should be so gifted.

          • elysianfield August 15, 2017 at 11:37 pm #


            Surgery, as I recall.

    • Bruce E August 15, 2017 at 1:40 pm #

      I took a break and stepped away from the site for a bit. It continues above.

  65. beantownbill. August 15, 2017 at 11:04 am #

    Fox News headline: “Kim Blinks”. Up, down; up, down. One day we’re on the brink of nuclear annihilation, the next day, Kim blinks. Does anyone with a discerning mind really pay attention to this manufactured news bullshit other than to chuckle? If the American public was a marionette, it’d be herky-jerky lurching across the stage, back and forth, back and forth.

    In the meantime, world population is shooting up like a rocket leaving the launchpad, our topsoil and cheap oil are being depleted, and virologists around the world are sweating bullets waiting for another lethal virus to make its appearance. But the public’s attention is focused on this weird, little fat guy with the strange haircut because the MSM is diverting Americans’ attention away from the things that really matter. Soil depletion and overpopulation aren’t sexy news, and everyone knows sex sells.

    People generally have enough to eat and enough gas to drive down to Walmart’s, so what’s the problem? The most relevant fable now is the grasshopper and the ants. Guess who the grasshopper is?

    Survive. Prepare for the worst, but hope for the best. The world will keep spinning its merry way around the sun. We still got 300 to 400 million years before the increase in the sun’s luminosity boils off the atmosphere and oceans. That ought to be enough time to live a productive, happy life.

    • BackRowHeckler August 15, 2017 at 11:25 am #

      Wait a minute Bill.

      400 million more years?

      A lot can happen between now and then.

      Anyway, you are a voice of reason here my friend.


      • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 12:53 pm #

        That’s because we’re not his people. Duh. And his Americanism is provisional, based on how pro-Jewish we are. Do you really think he’d be this calm and cosmic if we were talking about Israel? C’mon guy, get a clue.

      • malthuss August 15, 2017 at 9:58 pm #

        Hope for the best. Obama gave the term ‘hope’ a bad name.

  66. BackRowHeckler August 15, 2017 at 11:21 am #

    Do any of you CFNers remember so much consternation, handwringing and paranoia when, just in the recent past, a BLM inspired street action in Dallas ended up with 5 police officers murdered, Ferguson, Mo got burned down, and in St Louis, during the Ferguson riots, a Croatian immigrant was dragged from his car by a negro mob and beat to death with hammers?

    I know, I know, those atrocities were committed in the spirit of righteous indication, wholly understandable, whereas as the action in Charlotte was based on hate and racism. Am I correct on this?


    • pequiste August 15, 2017 at 11:24 am #

      A gold star BRH, for having a memory of something that happened before yesterday.

    • messianicdruid August 15, 2017 at 5:31 pm #

      They were all caused by hate, racism and righteous [v]indication.

  67. pequiste August 15, 2017 at 11:22 am #

    Needed a few days to digest the proceedings in C’ville.

    The forces of historical revisionism are going for the knockout, with their removal action to an equestrian statue of one of the greatest Virginians, but have over-reached with the grave insult to Marse Robert.

    Those who do not understand that the War Between The States is integral history to the development of the modern U.S.A. and that it required the mollifying effect of time plus the serious consideration of the valor, courage, and prowess of both adversaries to come to a mutual respect of persons and law. Not good enough for the Social Engineers.

    The disparate groups that JHK outlines in his missive do not respect much, as he well point out, at all except their own selfish needs:

    – Colleges do not respect freedom of speech or thought. Just do not permit “conservatives” such as Anne Coulter (whether you like her or not) to speak at the UCal Berkeley.

    – LGBTQQAZ does not respect my right to have a public space free from overt sexual practices parades. Sex practices parades? Well that’s what a “Pride Parade” is, isn’t it? Or to pose the existential conundrum of “what toilet to use today?”

    – Immigration advocates in American and Europe think that their pitiful hordes must be taken care of by those who can better afford it. Why should Third Worlders be responsible for their own political instability, poverty, diseases and, most importantly, population overshoot?

    Peoples with an understanding of their own history, cultures and traditions do not like one-bit, politicians, at the behest of “business interests” (Evil Bastard Globalists) to destroy peaceful, prosperous communities or larger societies. Bring in the Somalians and Syrians anyway they direct. WIthin living memory people are becoming well aware that that the program could be labelled European-American demographic destruction. The more visible model would be the demographic destruction of Western Europe itself by powerful enemies of the people – in the cases of the U.K., Netherlands, France, Germany and Sweden: it IS the State which is the enemy itself.

    I am expecting some outside influence to provide some gasoline for the next major gathering of the “White Nationalists” (the term utilized by the Ministry of Propaganda.) Perhaps the Pudgy One of Best Korea or our friends over at the JV ISIS club will bring some more potent party favors and get things really going.

    The amount of ressentiment and seething anger across the American spectrum, from where I stand, and almost daily experience (roads, stores, at work,) is astonishing — even palpable. An inflammable mixture ready for ignition.


    • BackRowHeckler August 15, 2017 at 11:37 am #

      Its a strange thing P, seeing these century old monuments being pulled down. We have some beautiful Civil War monuments here in Connecticut, most of them erected in the 1890s. Who knows, some day this ‘new left’ may turn on those, for whatever reason, and demand their removal and destruction, perhaps the same way, right now in England Winston Churchill is condemned as a ‘fascist’ in some quarters, when in truth he stood alone against fascism for almost 2 years.

      Witness yesterday a Confederate Memorial destroyed in Durham SC, and the mob kicking and punching like it was flesh and bone.

      There’s some real hatred here, mixed up with hysteria, and in some cases mental illness. Its very disturbing to say the least.

      I’m reminded of reading Douglas Southall Freeman, when writing his landmark biography of Robert E Lee, would salute Lee’s statue in Richmond each morning on his way to his office.


      • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 12:56 pm #

        Saw a video: the Blacks were pleased but calm. The feral, awkward White goofballs, both male and female, were in a hysteria.

      • thwack August 15, 2017 at 1:12 pm #

        George Washington owned slaves too?

        Are they gonna pull down all his statues too?

        Not only that, but he personally vetoed states enlisting “negroes” in the Continental Army; and he used some racist language to do it.



        while he was telling other people they couldn’t use slaves to help them; he had his own personal trusted negro man servant by his side everywhere he went.

        This negro is even in many paintings of Washington.

        This black man had so many opportunities to slit Washington’s throat and change history?

        He could have killed him in his sleep and galloped off to the British lines in the middle of the night and be a hero to the Crown?

        He could have poisoned George Washington and changed the course of the war and history forever?

        Just sayin

        • seawolf77 August 15, 2017 at 3:09 pm #

          Most of the Founding Fathers did. All of them, dyed in the wool hypocrites. You can’t write the history of America and not lie, and that has not changed one iota in 250 years. Manifest Destiny. I mean George Orwell himself must have come up with that one.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 5:44 pm #

            Realists who had to placate the idealistic fools the Puritans were already turning into – aided by the Quakers and other churches as they turned sour (secular).

            You can find honest men back then who admitted they conquered, were conquering, or were going to conquer this continent. Far more than later, certainly. But yes, the hypocrisy was there even away from New England. Jamestown was dedicated to Christ and converting the Indians. Some shoot their heads since the colony was founded by adventurers and profiteers. But that couldn’t be admitted. And truly, the Myth gives power by holding people together. As has oft been said, hypocrisy is the tribute vice pays to virtue. Far less holds them back now that it is gone.

          • benr August 17, 2017 at 2:17 pm #

            I found this to be a very good read and it paints a far more compelling truth than what we were taught in school.


        • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 5:31 pm #

          What a great man – the nigro that is. Why don’t we pull all Washington’s statues down in favor of him? He didn’t kill a White he could have killed! The nig was a fucking Saint, Sage, and Hero. All of Washington’s virtues flow into him by NOT killing him (Thwack has reversed the primitive believe that you got your enemies virtues by killing him and/or eating him – the earliest beginnings of evolution?).

          • thwack August 15, 2017 at 5:39 pm #

            Billy Lee was probably the only person (other than his wife) that George Washington could trust?

            The Crown had a price on his head; and we are all familiar with how ambitious white people are always ready to stab each other in the back.

            You know how it goes?

            *they smile in your face; all the time they wanna take your place*

          • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 5:47 pm #

            Yet we have civilizations and you don’t. You all just never get that far – too “individualistic”. Actually you all tend to be exactly the same: lazy and bad tempered. And proud to boot.

          • seawolf77 August 16, 2017 at 9:04 am #

            Pull all of them down. Jordan. Ruth. Pol Pot. Stalin. Ignatius O’Reilly. We don’t need no stinking statues or monuments. We can rename the Washington Memorial to The Big Hard On.

      • seawolf77 August 15, 2017 at 3:15 pm #

        There are 1,000 Confederate monuments in 31 states, many of whom were not even states, let alone Confederate states. Pull them all down. It is classic passive aggression, and as such are definitely republican. Those symbols celebrate slavery indirectly, and should never have been erected. Slavery was hoisted on us by the Vatican, who have been slavers for 2,000 years. The Civil War was manufactured by the Vatican because America was founded by British Protestants. Relations with the Holy See were severed after the Civil War and were not reinstated until 1980 and Ronnie Raygun.

        • thwack August 15, 2017 at 5:31 pm #

          without slavery, I probably would not be around here for you guys to know and love?

          just sayin

        • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 6:17 pm #

          Oh rubbish! The Civil War was caused by a meteor strike that released microbes that caused mass insanity.

          • seawolf77 August 16, 2017 at 9:02 am #

            That was just a bird shitting on your head Janos.

          • sophia August 16, 2017 at 11:38 pm #

            Janos, stick to the facts. Plenty of blacks are neigher lazy or bad tempered. And that’s American blacks. Africans are among the best tempered people on the planet.

      • cbeard August 15, 2017 at 9:02 pm #

        Durham is in N.C.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 1:07 pm #

      Famous exchange: Podheritz asked Gore Vidal what he was working on. He replied a novel about the Civil War. Poderhitz’s head went back as if struck and he said, What are you interested in that for? Vidal realized that for the Jews, American History began when they arrived. Of course they intend to change everything to suit themselves. That was never in question once you See. Conquering is not assimilating!

      • malthuss August 15, 2017 at 10:05 pm #

        Jews are doomed. Out marriage and small families.
        Or the world will be burdened w Zuck and the chinese jews.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 16, 2017 at 12:33 am #

          Careful – the Orthodox have huge families.

          • malthuss August 16, 2017 at 8:52 pm #

            oops–I forgot about that.

        • sophia August 16, 2017 at 11:40 pm #

          Chinese Jews?

  68. volodya August 15, 2017 at 11:25 am #

    The only way we’ll ever know the unvarnished truth of what happened at Charlottesville is for an unbiased commission to conduct an investigation. Look for example at what the main stream press seem determined to not discuss: counter demonstrators carrying clubs. You may not like those swastika-bearing neo-Nazis. Nor do I. They’re insufferable, the refuge of losers. But then so is the Oligarch bought-and-paid-for, witless, clueless, violent Left.

    Of course such an commission would turn into an all-out effort to condemn the Right in all its forms. You want to see witch-hunt? Who would be best to lead it? Il Jerkoffo-di-tutti-jerkoffi Shumer? Oh, wait, I know who to get: HILLARY!

    No matter who heads it up, the most extreme and violence-promoting elements will be conflated with anything the Left doesn’t like or doesn’t agree with and will get tarred by the same brush. Do you go to church? You’re fucked. Did you vote Republican? You’re really fucked. Did you vote for Trump? You fucking Nazi, your life won’t be worth living. That in my estimation is where this is going.

    Nope, there won’t be anything remotely resembling an impartial look at how things got here and what took place. What WILL likely happen in my estimation is that – gag – “progressive” High-Horse riders will double down on all the idiot stuff they’ve done to date. What led up to Charlottesville was stupidly provocative but this was of a piece with what’s they’ve been inflicting for years. Expect much more of the same and then as night follows day, expect a nasty counter-reaction.

    Do I detest the likes of the NYT, New Yorker and all those likewise self-appointed judges? You can’t imagine. They laud the supposed ”creative” class, you know, the white-collar “educated” ones. But just what have they created? Trivialities like Snapchat? Or end-of-the-road capitalist endeavors like Uber (glorified taxi driving)? Can you live without these? Will you die?

    They think it’s a good idea to export the livelihoods of millions of Americans. Could they be more transparently in the pockets of the Oligarch-Davos class? They destroy the viability of that very place they need to survive both economically and socially. Do they seriously think that they themselves will survive this destruction?

    • seawolf77 August 15, 2017 at 11:50 am #

      Yes maybe he did try and run over people when he drove into that crowd. But let’s not forget Hillary Clinton has also driven in and around large crowds, and on many occasions she swerved threateningly. Are we to believe that she never killed anyone? How can you make that leap of faith. She has been seen driving in large crowds! Jesus!

      • volodya August 15, 2017 at 12:30 pm #

        Stupidity is a maladaptive trait. Natural selection, also known as “reality”, culls maladaptive traits. You see this cull going on all through history on a societal and civilizational level. American economic and intellectual elites will find out just how maladaptive their stupidity is. The irony of course being that they’re so proud of what they see as their intellectual attainments. Makes me laugh. So do you.

        • seawolf77 August 15, 2017 at 2:05 pm #

          Supercilious is as supercilious does.

      • michael August 16, 2017 at 1:14 am #

        Here we should not forget Samantha (60 mile an hour) Power.
        She was so popular all over the world that her convoy could never fall below 60 miles an hour lest she was devoured by adoring crowds.
        Had to run over people now and then.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 12:59 pm #

      So any White Man who fights for his heritage is a loser? People like you are every bit the Enemy the Communists are. And this kind of complete confusion is reminiscent of South Africa before it fell to the darkness. Whites simply can’t let go of their brittle “goodness” and the historical illusion it fosters. At least not in time. You are exhibit A.

  69. messianicdruid August 15, 2017 at 11:34 am #

    Janos said, “But that’s the thing: we never considered them White. Thus our purity remained intact. Morally, one can criticize this attitude and its practice, but it has saved us from our own excesses and failings.”

    But it [ not observering “kind after kind” ] brought upon all of us the consequences [ of excesses and failings ] we must deal with now. Promoting racial purity while spreading miscegenation is Talmudic.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 1:02 pm #

      Well yes: we give the enemy our genes and strengthen them thereby. To be clear: the Jews play a smarter game. Their halflings often end up supporting their Pure Ones. But of course they’re mixing with Whites for the most part. Whether they can pull off the same trick with the Chinese is the question. If they can, they may well pull down that ancient Empire in two hundred years just as they did here.

      • benr August 17, 2017 at 2:21 pm #

        Actually the Chinese are poisoning themselves out of existence.
        China is a toxic mess and the kids I have dealt with are all lazy, entitled and on the dumb side. Well over thirty chinese kids hosted and I have compared notes with many other families.

  70. FincaInTheMountains August 15, 2017 at 11:47 am #

    Clintonoids in the US are desperately trying to counter apparent economic successes of the Trump administration == finca

    Feds Collect Record Income and Payroll Taxes Through July

    The federal government collected record amounts of both individual income taxes and payroll taxes through the first ten months of fiscal 2017 (Oct. 1, 2016 through the end of July), according to the Monthly Treasury Statement.



    The antonym for the word “Depression” is Optimism, something which the Black Project has been suppressing for the last 25 years.

    I think that what explains the latest media freakout.

  71. FincaInTheMountains August 15, 2017 at 12:14 pm #

    Duopoly of power: Trump fights on!

    My friends who personally were in Charlottesville claim that the organizers of the demonstration did not invite any Nazis or racists, but representatives of Negro organizations supporting Trump.

    Most of the damned Yankees (New Yorkers who wound up in the South) hate the black working class of Atlanta, and there are no bigger patriots of the South than they are.

    Black gentlemen from the South can stand up for themselves and still remember the “liberation” by the carpetbaggers from the north, as in Siberia they still remember Kolchak. And they protested against the white supremacists, which were there in minimal quantities in Hollywood costumes and with Soros’ money, clappers and fighters specially brought from St. Louis.

    They argue that the riots were organized by the ultra-liberal Mayor of Charlottesville, who at the last moment banned the demonstration at the monument to General Lee, took advantage of this in order to abolish police patrols that were supposed to guard it.

    And if the normal protection of the demonstration was in place, then there would be no riots, especially as the demonstration included armed militia of the patriots of the South, who finally dispersed the fighting in the end.

    Naturally, the demands on Trump to condemn the demonstrators were aimed at driving a wedge between him and his voters who refused to abandon him even after signing the law on anti-Russian sanctions, which was presented as Trump’s political castration. But he formulated his condemnation of the white supremacists in such way that this plan failed.

    Why is it so I still do not understand, but in the coming days should be held demonstrations in support of Trump in the largest cities in the US, in which as many as 4 million people are expected to participate.

    And the possibility of this wonderful miracle is confirmed by the republican press, which accuses the liberal press of riots, rather than neo-Nazi groups.


  72. BackRowHeckler August 15, 2017 at 12:21 pm #

    Hey Oz, if you’re looking in, where you gonna be Sunday? out and about, or providing entertainment?

    A few of the youngsters here at the hacienda want to check out some of that ‘British Iron’; will stop and say hello. I hope the weather cooperates.

    In Canton this weekend (not far from you) lobster bake at the VFD, $15 for lobster, chowder, corn on the cob, and beer. That runs fri, sat and sun. Can’t beat it.

    CFners, please excuse this personal message this one time, thank you.


    • ozone August 15, 2017 at 5:37 pm #

      I’ll be banging the tunes with my buddy, Tom, but we get quite a few breaks for announcements and such. Lots and lots of vintage and modern British Iron, but the show is open to all makes and models. Honda’s, Indian’s, Harley’s, Moto Guzzi’s, BMW’s, Ural’s, *ETC*. Some guy always brings his leather-belt driven 1914 BSA, with carbide headlight, truly a sight to behold. “The Rockers” have been showing up with some very nice custom “cafe” road rockets. (I think this enhances the show’s appeal; always something you’ve never laid eyes on before). A ten-spot at the door; don’t forget to fill out the other half of your entry ticket for a shot at the door prize. This year’s giveaway bike is a “nicely sorted” (fully restored; ride it away) 1978 Triumph Bonneville 750. What’s great about this is that there’s only one chance per customer; no muscling in like with raffle tickets. You *must* be there to win (@ approx. 3:30)!
      P.s. You may enter your bike into the show for no extra charge; register before noon.

      Weather should be fine; has been for the last 15 years. Food and beverages available from about 10am on… (Yes, the youngsters definitely should check this out; shows what some wrenching and ingenuity can do to keep some very old machines roadworthy. There’s nothing throw-away or disposable about these works of the mechanical arts… find some parts or have ’em made.) Link:


      (Pardon me for this reply as well.)

  73. volodya August 15, 2017 at 1:12 pm #

    So any White Man who fights for his heritage is a loser? – Janos

    No, those White Men that identify as Nazis – the all-time losers – are losers. The Nazis destroyed Europe. They had a gripe about Jewish bankers. So, if you have a gripe about bankers, what should you do? Maybe round up the bankers? What sense does it make to annihilate the entirety of European Jewry because you have a gripe about a small subset of bankers? The Nazis claimed that Jews are racially inferior. Seriously? Do you know any Jews? Do they seem that way to you? Does our host seem biologically un-fit?

    What the Nazis espoused was idiocy. Their actions were the actions of idiots. What nature did was to eradicate Nazi-ism the way that nature eradicates the unfit. It was natural selection in action.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 1:55 pm #

      No, the Zionists and the Nazis worked together to move Jews to Palestine. Google “transfer agreement”. Inferior? Hitler saw them as all too capable – the deadly enemies behind the American and Soviet Empires and working behind the scenes to corrupt the youth in Weimar.

      Peoples so different are hostile and/or inimical to each other and should not then live together. Ditto the Blacks (who are inferior in most ways. Superior in a few. There IS not equality, doofus.). You are simply are wrong about everything. Terrifying. We march in step to our doom as in South Africa. You are goose stepping in a uniform – that of the Enemy.

      • volodya August 15, 2017 at 2:01 pm #

        No, the Zionists and the Nazis worked together to move Jews to Palestine. – Janos

        I’ve had a few good laughs reading the comment section.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 2:14 pm #

          So in other words, you’re not going to google it to rectify your ignorance?

          Ok, got it. I’ll rectify you later then.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 11:25 pm #


        • messianicdruid August 16, 2017 at 12:06 am #

          “What sense does it make to > annihilate the entirety of European Jewry < because you have a gripe about a small subset of bankers?"

          I've had a few good laughs too.

    • thwack August 15, 2017 at 5:28 pm #

      The Nazis had the best looking uniforms, and the best helmets.

      Just sayin

      • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 5:38 pm #

        Yes, but the Russian Communists had some great overcoats and cool fur hats. And great propaganda – Hitler admitted it was better. After watching the Battleship Potemkin he said, That was great. I feel like going out and becoming a Russian Communist now.

        Nazi rallies were unsurpassed though. And later they began to make some good propaganda movies.

      • malthuss August 15, 2017 at 9:50 pm #

        But African males have bigger ‘guns’–There was a report on CONDOMS.
        The German condom is custom made, thin.

        I KID YOU NOT.
        I read that in mainstream media.

    • malthuss August 15, 2017 at 9:49 pm #

      And Stalin was a hero? Did he destroy?

  74. thwack August 15, 2017 at 1:27 pm #

    but I do have to ask – have you – for want of a better phrase – tasted the diversity rainbow? That is to say, conducted relationships (intimate or otherwise) with others of another race? Why/why not? If yes, have these experiences altered or challenged your perceptions of racial matters? I ask purely out of interest, not to be insolent or to provoke.



    They taught me that all women are the same (basically ridiculous) and the foreign ones made me aware of my “Americaness”

    In addition,Ive found a better indexing than race is culture and in the U.S everyone falls into one of 3 categories:




    or some combination of the three.

    • messianicdruid August 15, 2017 at 6:02 pm #

      Even better indexing:

      Those who want to be left alone.

      Those who cannot leave others alone.

      • thwack August 15, 2017 at 8:06 pm #

        but what about faggots like you?

        Just sayin

        • messianicdruid August 15, 2017 at 8:56 pm #

          Me – former

          You – latter


          • sophia August 16, 2017 at 11:54 pm #

            You’re a former faggot?!

    • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 7:18 pm #

      James Joyce listens to Thwack’s mind while he’s waiting for the bus: I could kill you honky, but I don’t. So you owe me your life and all your treasure, muthafuggah. Kick it in.

    • JimInFlorida August 16, 2017 at 3:01 pm #

      Where does, “Black Church,” fit in?

      Nothing like it in any “White” version of the above three.

  75. thwack August 15, 2017 at 1:38 pm #

    This is the blackamoor who had countless opportunities to kill George Washington:


  76. FincaInTheMountains August 15, 2017 at 1:45 pm #

    The rockets capable to bring to 60 US cities 60 nuclear warheads, that North Korea already has, were made in Ukraine AFTER the Maidan coup d’etat!!! == Finca

    The most striking in this situation is Trump’s silence about the rocket engines of Korean nuclear missiles manufactured at one of the Ukrainian plants after the pro-American coup.

    US special services that completely control Ukraine have time and resources to search Manafort, but there is no time to control the export of missile technology from Ukraine to North Korea?!!

    And I’m betting my bottom dollar – it did no fly without Hillary and her favorite Ukrainian Judeo-Nazi Kolomoisky.

  77. seawolf77 August 15, 2017 at 1:51 pm #

    For being such a heralded general, General Lee sure screwed up at Gettysburg.

  78. Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 2:01 pm #

    Most fights are won by a good first punch and then a flurry that takes the defendant out. The flurry has begun. It makes sense to people like Volly and Ozzy: of course the White America has to die – some stressed out White idiot killed a White female social justice warrior fighting for Truth, Justice, and Vagina. It logically follows, right? The logic of emotion is All, the only thing.


    The Left never wastes a crisis. If they can move Overton, they keep the momentum going.

  79. Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 2:12 pm #

    Big Ben silenced for four years. Repairs. Why not ring it during repairs of the structure and not the bell per se? “We don’t want to hurt the workers or threaten their hearing. But don’t worry, we’ll ring it twice a year instead of everyday at 12.”


    Ever hear of ear plugs? Or if the vibrations are that strong, have everyone go to lunch at 11:45. I’m a genius. In any case, one of the major “voices” of Western Civilization has been all but silenced. The poster I got this from said that under Shariah Law, no Church may be higher or louder than the Minarets. He may well be on target.

  80. capt spaulding August 15, 2017 at 2:21 pm #

    You people can manipulate the facts, muddle the issues, try to say that black is actually white, when it’s not true at all. The only thing I can say is that when the dust settles, you’re gonna be back on the eastern front, where nobody wants to be when the bill comes due. Me, I got no dog in this fight, but I know bullshit when I see it I don’t try to promote a particular agenda, but I know that I don’t appreciate people trying to play me for a fool. You can quote Hindu philosophy & whatever, but what it all boils down to is propagandist bullshit. You people are beneath contempt. Say what you will. Intellectualize all you want. When I’m looking at a handful of shit, I know exactly what I’m looking at, and I know that it’s not a handful of ice cream. Sorry, only the red state chumps are gonna buy your shit. “None labor so hard as those who forge the chains that are used to bind them.”

    • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 5:34 pm #

      Just like two weeks ago – I wasn’t talking to you, doofus. Or are you vodloya as well?

      As for your views, they are reprehensible. They’re coming for Whites and you will cheer until they get to you. You don’t deserve to own a dog – they’re loyal unlike you.

      • capt spaulding August 16, 2017 at 8:53 am #

        My comments weren’t addressed to you, (enter word of your own choosing here). If they were, I would have hit the reply button. When I said “you”, I meant neo nazis in general. By the way, you’re gonna need to get a building permit for those ovens.

  81. FincaInTheMountains August 15, 2017 at 3:25 pm #

    If the whole affair with Ukrainian missile engines for N. Korea ICBMs turns out to be true – and it looks like it is, since even NYT is reporting on it, the US Deep State, the US “Intelligence community” are going to have their collective ass handed to them by Putin and Trump.

    That’s definitely High Treason; people are going to sing like canaries.

    Now the whole N. Korean crisis appears in a completely new light!



  82. FincaInTheMountains August 15, 2017 at 4:48 pm #

    President Trump confirms Finca’s view of what happened in Charlottesville:


    • tucsonspur August 15, 2017 at 6:02 pm #

      Saw it on TV and it was great to watch. He slapped the media down like miserable, annoying mosquitos.

      He stood tall and strong, and called out the violence on the Left, and asked where the statue toppling would end.

      They just couldn’t take the strength of truth, and the gabbling gnats just couldn’t topple Trump with their grapple of questions, hard as they tried.

      • K-Dog August 15, 2017 at 11:03 pm #

        He made a damn fool of himself. Had the turd left last nights questionably sincere speech alone he might have been all right. Instead we had stupid Trump.

        The pale skinned mentation of the trolls here here won’t see it but anybody of color is going to be pissed at Trump for saying both sides started it. As many will see it he as much as condoned murder. Many will be wishing they could see Trump kiss the front grill of a Dodge Charger at twenty miles an hour sometime soon himself.

        He was a stupid inflammatory dickweed who should have kept his damn mouth shut.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 11:12 pm #

          No, it was an attempt at balance – and perhaps to get reelected. He won’t make it without enraged Whites. And what did he say that was wrong? The Right was attacked – just like during his election. They did have a permit – the Left did not. And what he didn’t say: the police and mayor let them do it.

          Try harder K.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 15, 2017 at 11:16 pm #

            If Volodya is Exhibit A, then Kdog is Exhibit B: how a very intelligent man can lose all of it in the moment because of passionate emotion. This is how a thug like Michael Brown can be turned into a Saint. Utter intellectual and emotional malfunction by those charged with knowing better. Thus our current travesty: the uneducated have a better take on reality than our Pundits. That bodes most ill since the uneducated can’t take us where we need to go. But they do often see thru bullshit – though without knowing the solution.

          • messianicdruid August 15, 2017 at 11:30 pm #

            “But they do often see through bullshit…”

            It is better to heed none than to heed liars.

          • K-Dog August 16, 2017 at 12:05 am #

            Try harder K.


            Get a sixty foot rope and drive Mr. Fields down to the river road on the red flatbed. Hang him so his feet swing ten feet above the water when the platform drives away.

            Stephen Bullock would have it that way. That is what he did in the ‘The Witch of Hebron’.

            M-U-R-D-E-R shall not live among us.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 16, 2017 at 12:19 am #

            Now he’s endorsing lynching. Exhibit A2. They’ll throw away all that they ever were and believed in – all to scratch this demonic itch of equality, the worm the dieth not. It doesn’t even exist in reality, but only in disordered minds. And this nothingness is very strong since they’ll destroy everything in order to create what can’t be.

            Read about the Revolutionary Guards in Red China during the Cultural Revolution to find out what’s coming if we don’t stamp these people down now.

            Due Process? Fuck that, he want’s blood – now. I expect it from some, like the Anti-Fa who expressed the same up thread. But Kdog? Fuck. He’s way worse than I thought.

          • K-Dog August 16, 2017 at 12:59 am #

            That was a good comeback. I’m impressed, nice try trying to spin me as nuts, but you won’t be getting the better of me as I bring out this book.

            The character in this next book is ‘Charlie’ The boys had ventured out to find other survivors and they bring back Charlie. Charlie from L.A. Charlie who desires to infect simple minded Eve with VD. It would be only a matter of time before he raped her if Charlie remained in the tribe. Charlie who brought disease to the village.

            Ish votes with the village to hang Charlie for the common good and survival of the tribe. The moment they pull Charlie up is pivotal for Ish. Ish realizes old rules just don’t apply in his new world made by hand.

            You remember Janos. This had to be your favorite part:

            We don’t want a lot of little half-wit brats running in on us, the sort of children that Evie would have.” (Stewart 255).

            The book is ‘Earth Abides’ by George R. Stewart.
            You recommended that I read it. I liked it very much.

            For the good of the village.

            Game Over

          • Janos Skorenzy August 16, 2017 at 5:14 am #

            You really think we’re there now? Vigilant Justice – which you supposedly always opposed? Or did you only oppose it when Whites did it to Non-Whites? Or do you just WANT to be there to sate your blood lust?

            Whether you like it or not, the young man may do a lot less time than you think. If he plays it smart and doesn’t blab, waits for a lawyer – he may well be able to plead he feared for his life. If so, I hope that burns you as your words come back to haunt you. You’ll have to admit that you’re not the oh so superior chap you thought you were, but rather as One with the Klansmen you so despise.

            Btw, the original Klan of Bedford Forest was retired once the crisis of Black violence was past. He or the man who had taken over from him realized that masked men were a threat to civil society. But the whole thing had caught on and there was no central leader to stop it. So the tradition of vigilante justice continued. And I am on record for opposing this tradition once the crisis was past. Killing an innocent man is a terrible thing – and even the official system did its fair share of that before DNA testing, what to speak of the quick vigilante courts.

          • Janos Skorenzy August 16, 2017 at 5:19 am #

            I do remember that part. Ish was a mild chap, cerebral, and an ectomorph. His wife chastised him for trying to take on the big, rough Charlie by himself. I agree btw: Ish and the Community had a valid case. He had defied Ish’s order to leave, he wasn’t going to leave Evie alone, and the tribe would be infected with his STD. And if they forced him out, he wasn’t a man who would simply accept that. They feared he would prey on them one at a time, or return with more like himself. They did the only thing they could under the circumstances, Charlie being who he was.

          • seawolf77 August 16, 2017 at 8:59 am #

            There is no counter protest permit. You can’t file a permit to protest another protest. Retard.

  83. Mike Patrick August 15, 2017 at 6:24 pm #

    The City of Houston considers the movement against sanctionary cities to be an unfunded mandate. Houston’s position is if the feds want illegals rounded up by HPD, then DC needs to fund the hiring of new police officers. Worse, HPD points put that a dragnet of illegals will be counter-productive. An atmosphere of fear among hispanics will make them reluctant to come forward with information the police department needs to do its main job, fighting crime.
    According to Pew, the Houston metropolitan area in 2014 had 2,335,000 hispanics, constituting 36.4% of the total area’s population.
    Kunstler ignores places like Houston because they do not confirm his rust belt perspective. What does Kunstler do about Houston and similar cities (San Antonio, Dallas, LA, etc) where the logistics of removing people rises to Stalinesque levels? Does Kunstler realize what an atmosphere of terror would be created in these mega cities? And how does Kunstler propose funding police departments in these mega cities for such a gargantuan task?
    Houston is my home and my neighborhood is ? hispanic. And you know what, Mr. Kunstler? We all get along very well thank you very much.

  84. malthuss August 15, 2017 at 9:51 pm #

    Rent a mob—Actors and Photographers Wanted in Charlotte (NC)
    https://web.archive.org/web/20170814123 … 05119.html

    Why Is George Soros Agenda Trumping The President?

    The Radical Left Funded By George Soros Planning More Racially-Fueled Attacks In Seattle, Baltimore And Kentucky
    http://investmentwatchblog.com/the-radi … -kentucky/

  85. MrTibbs August 15, 2017 at 10:30 pm #

    In the New Republic, members recognize the improper conversion of the representative class into the ruling class, through the effective use of gaslighting, and enjoy the process of amending the Constitution to correct the error.

    New Amendments: (Effective and executed immediately upon Amendments Convention ratification.)

    28. Term limits. Senators are limited to two (6) year terms. Representatives are limited to five (2) year terms.

    29. Lobbying. Excludes an individual from serving as a Senator or Representative, and once having served, LOBBYING IS STRICTLY FORBIDDEN.

    30. Balanced budget. No treasury expenditures shall be permitted without an approved balanced budget.

    (34) State Legislatures may amend the Constitution accordingly, peacefully, with manageable consequences.


    Y = career politicians x career lobbyists x globalist mainstream media x career unelected Deep State bureaucrats x Hollywood elites x unprosecuted corruption x globalist banking cartels x globalist technocrats

    “God integrates empirically.” -Albert Einstein.

    Y = old republic NETWORK globalism = THE SWAMP.

    Sent From the New Republic.


    They Call Me Mr. Tibbs.

  86. messianicdruid August 15, 2017 at 11:16 pm #

    From the ACLU’s statement — ““It is the responsibility of law enforcement to ensure safety of both protesters and counter-protesters. The policing on Saturday was not effective in preventing violence. I was there and brought concerns directly to the secretary of public safety and the head of the Virginia State Police about the way that the barricades in the park limiting access by the arriving demonstrators and the lack of any physical separation of the protesters and counter-protesters on the street were contributing to the potential of violence. They did not respond. In fact, law enforcement was standing passively by, seeming to be waiting for violence to take place, so that they would have grounds to declare an emergency, declare an ‘unlawful assembly’ and clear the area.”

  87. AHtheHumanity August 15, 2017 at 11:49 pm #

    Cue Venezuela stage left…

    None of the current talking points will matter when NeoNazis and LGBTQQ and Illegal pedestrians can’t get enough food.

    What will happen when Blue Apron stops delivering and all the restaurants close down?

    I do believe McDonalds has been protected by the US government for the last 75 Yrs because they will be called upon to feed Americans in the event of a financial meltdown. We can see they already do in the case of the homeless. Go to any McDonalds and you will see homeless hording around them at any given time of the day. McDonalds will hire anyone off the street to staff their 24/7 operations while getting good PR.

  88. Janos Skorenzy August 16, 2017 at 12:23 am #

    “As long as you don’t HAVE to say ‘Blacks Lives Matter’, we aren’t free.”

    Susan Sarandon on Jimmy Fallon

    Scary Shit. A complete inversion of reality. Freedom is NOT having to say things you don’t believe in. Shame on you Buck.

    • Janos Skorenzy August 16, 2017 at 12:30 am #


      • DA August 16, 2017 at 3:40 pm #

        SHAME ON YOU… for watching a Susan Sarandon video in the first place! She’s a sanctimonious liberal numb-nut.

        • Q. Shtik August 16, 2017 at 9:19 pm #

          She’s a sanctimonious liberal numb-nut. – DA


          Yeah, but she’s got nice tits…or used to.

    • Q. Shtik August 16, 2017 at 10:58 am #

      Shame on you Buck.


      That reminds me: What ever happened to Buck Stud??

  89. Pucker August 16, 2017 at 1:42 am #

    The Asians would say that desecrating the monuments and graves of the dead ancestors is the worst form of violence.

  90. Pucker August 16, 2017 at 1:58 am #

    Hi Tyler excoriated Christians as intolerant of pagan queers, Aztecs and black Africans. Go figure….

    “Hitler insisted that Christianity was even more barbaric than the Romans had been, killing hundreds of thousands for their heretical beliefs. He then rattled off a list of Christian atrocities: killing the Aztecs and Incas, slave hunts during medieval times, and enslaving millions of black Africans. 25

    “Hitler’s Religion”, Richard Weikart

    • messianicdruid August 16, 2017 at 10:20 am #

      There are many who wear other people’s labels to perform wicked acts. By their fruits, not their labels, you will know them.

  91. SvrzoH August 16, 2017 at 2:11 am #

    Toppling Confederate statue in Durham.
    After going ISIL (there is no other way to call it) on Stone Mountain in Georgia next is, I guess, a march to ancient Rome and Greece with final stop at Giza plateau.

    Never understood toppling of Soviet era statues in Eastern Europe post 1989 collapse of CCCP.

    History in stone and bronze should be preserved, it is irrational to be ‘afraid’ of them.

    • tucsonspur August 16, 2017 at 3:43 am #

      The Soviets put the yoke on those Eastern European countries.
      Put their nuts in a vise and tits in a wringer.

      The South lost and of course never “yoked” the North. But it doesn’t seem to matter.

      Stone and bronze okay, but that fat bitch climbing the confederate statue scares the shit out of me. Queen Kong, for chrissakes!

    • ozone August 16, 2017 at 9:12 am #

      “History in stone and bronze should be preserved, it is irrational to be ‘afraid’ of them.”

      I agree. I would hope your comment would include a certain statue of a certain political figure in Baghdad that was pulled down in 2003…
      Or are certain topplings (and topplers) more acceptable/deserving of approval than others?

      • SvrzoH August 16, 2017 at 12:49 pm #

        ALL STATUES, or you may blast all ancient museums or sites as well.
        It is the job of cold headed smart future looking people of any society to preserve them from lizard brain emotional masses of the moment..

        At the bridge across the corner where Archduke slurped (well it is Sarajevo after all) the bullet there was a pieta-like bronze erected to memorize that event which was removed post WWI. Now, century later, is missing more than ever, in my opinion, to complete the story of that site.

      • Doc Holliday August 17, 2017 at 12:07 pm #

        A significant bit of difference. In general, all Saddam’s statues were created and installed during his tenure, likely, with his consent or demand. Most of the (Confederate) Civil War statues were created and installed in the 1890-1910 time frame with the express consent (or lack of resentment shown) of the public in that area. A very significant difference.

  92. Pucker August 16, 2017 at 2:56 am #

    What do the magnificent cathedrals of Europe look like to you? To me, they look like the work of the Freemasons, and we should build more as they give us Civilization and Purpose. To a liberal, they probably look like “White Supremacy”, and must be torn down?

    • daytrip August 16, 2017 at 3:00 am #

      Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past. 1984

    • messianicdruid August 16, 2017 at 10:29 am #

      The statues are stand-ins for ideas. If the idea is true it cannot be pulled down.

  93. tucsonspur August 16, 2017 at 3:17 am #

    “Had the turd left last nights…”
    “Instead we had stupid Trump”.
    “He was a stupid inflammatory dick weed….”
    “As many will see it he as much as condoned murder.” K-Dog

    Maybe I should dig in the rowels, but I won’t because I think you actually do know better. Seeing the above, I think you’ll see that the language does nothing for your argument, but sounds like some pimply faced freshman trying to impress his high school friends and failing miserably.

    If the last quote above is anywhere near correct, we are really in big trouble, and the many with that mindset only magnify the futility of any reconciliation.

    No leader can bridge our great divide. The gap is simply too wide.
    It may be that the two sides can only be welded together through the white heat of violence. Who would you want controlling the torch?

    • daytrip August 16, 2017 at 3:39 am #

      I watched the press conference (infrastructure et al). Thanks for the link whomever that was. I was thinking earlier today that we need to make it easier for young folk, and people in general, to have good experiences; with school, work, life. Is there any way to make it easier for people to have good, productive lives? It’s getting tougher for the lower and middle classes, that’s part of the anxiety. The limits, Al Bartlett (and others’) exponential human population growth curve on a finite planet (with no term limits and all the above). I recommend Mr. Kunstler get his two cents in on this new infrastructure. Tell’em what’s what, Jim! Trump made a good point that goes along with the solution to some big problems; have better places to exist (improvement for all, and maybe less for that oft-mentioned 1% or so- though Trump sure doesn’t say much there), so that there’s a sense of pride in America (not just the tony zip codes) and give people meaningful work and pride. You don’t usually want to tear it down if you helped build it.

      • seawolf77 August 16, 2017 at 10:27 am #

        God I wish Trump would just grow a funny little moustache and be done with it.

  94. FincaInTheMountains August 16, 2017 at 6:30 am #

    No, it was an attempt at balance – and perhaps to get reelected == Janos

    No, it was not an attempt, but a timely move to consolidate his base, and he succeeded in that and it makes the lying Media double mad.

    Of course, there is a colossal force and a colossal power on the side of the Clintonoids, and they would insist on impeachment, despite the fact that Republicans have a majority in both the Senate and the House of Representatives, but somewhere beyond the horizon, the Second Civil War is already rumbling, and fear, that in case of abuse of this power and this force, the American working class will crack down on the establishment ala October 1917 in Russia, and put a cross on both.

    Finca July 21, 2017 at 5:27 pm: The War of Ideas

    • DA August 16, 2017 at 8:00 am #

      Not so much a civil war, as a consolidation of power. It will be bloody alright, but just as we’re seeing right now, one side will do most of the bleeding. The rich, with the help of poor mercenaries, will squash whatever pitiful rebellion the poor have in mind with extreme prejudice. Rumors of a proverbial “brave new world” will be extinguished just as quickly as they get started.

      • ozone August 16, 2017 at 9:24 am #

        Your scenario is exactly what a certain phony who comments here is trying their damnedest to foment. It’s not only “follow the money”, it’s “to whom do you bend the knee” that’s very indicative of motivations.

        • DA August 16, 2017 at 11:10 am #

          I’m amazed at all the themes in HBO’s Game of Thrones that are being played out on the national and world stage these days. It’s like watching a very thinly veiled commentary on current affairs every week.

        • messianicdruid August 16, 2017 at 11:26 am #


        • Janos Skorenzy August 16, 2017 at 1:31 pm #

          Yes, the Elite and their Minority Allies (the Dark Poor) are trying to crush the former middle class, now the White Poor. Stop saying, “the Poor” – it’s more complicated than that. Your Marxism is inadequate here. And your idea that only economics matter is Marxism at its worse. Biology matters. As does Heritage and Culture.

          And I remind thee: not to choose is to choose. By not standing with us, you are against us in an existential sense – even if you weren’t on the side of minorities which you tacitly are by not qualifying which poor you mean.

          • DA August 16, 2017 at 3:10 pm #

            You’re definitely a rebel with a cause (and a lot of labels too) Janos. Any remnants of heritage and the culture have been long since completely flushed already. The current generations were never exposed to it in the first place and so would not recognize it if it ran them over with a Dodge Challenger. What we’re witnessing is a simulacrum of a culture and a country long dead. There simply is no “we” to rally around anymore, just a country full of me’s.

      • FincaInTheMountains August 16, 2017 at 9:25 am #

        The rich, with the help of poor mercenaries, will squash whatever pitiful rebellion the poor have in mind with extreme prejudice.

        Somehow I do not see a great success of “rich with the help of poor mercenaries” in Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria.

        You think that the working class of the United States even worse in defending their rights than aforementioned third-worlders? On what side you think the US Army and US Army Veterans will end up?

        • DA August 16, 2017 at 11:08 am #

          Somehow I do not see a great success of “rich with the help of poor mercenaries” in Afghanistan, Iraq or Syria.

          Then you’re not looking hard enough. The whole point was to destroy the culture and foment 24/7 violence among the still living, not kill every last man, woman, and child straight away. Hey, someone has to be alive to perform the slave labor as long as the looting and pillaging continues. And of course the rich are nowhere to be seen in those countries.

          I’m a vet too, and we’ll end up where military vets always do after the plutocrats are done with them. Broken down, used up, discarded, and discredited. The illusion of a cohesive and united US is coming apart at the seams as we speak. I’ll give it ten years at the outside.

          • DA August 16, 2017 at 11:23 am #

            And of course to keep the money flowing to the MICC. But that goes without saying these days, as that’s pretty much the goal of everything we do now. In the words of the immortal “Turd Blossom” Rove:

            “We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors…and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”


      • seawolf77 August 16, 2017 at 10:21 am #

        Now there’s one for the local pub.

      • seawolf77 August 16, 2017 at 10:26 am #

        Non violent. California or Texas will secede. Maybe both. The South, like a fart floating in the wind, will rise again. New England will become uh New England again. The Midwest will become mid-western in a cowboy sort of way, like Brokeback Mountain meets Maude. JS will no longer mean Just Sayin…it will become Janos Skorensky.

        • DA August 16, 2017 at 11:52 am #

          Lot’s of speculation these days, even among mainstream sources. Just ten years ago this would all have been labeled as complete fantasy.

        • Janos Skorenzy August 16, 2017 at 1:34 pm #

          Ah, a beautiful vision. If only. But the South is now full of Mestizos as well as Blacks. Where are the Whites going to rise? Surrounded by enemies? The battle to save the Statues will be lost, but it is crucial to try. It will be the crucible that melds us together. We can create something in another part of the former United States.

  95. DA August 16, 2017 at 7:54 am #

    I see the National Anthem issue is rearing its ugly head in the NFL again this year, even sans Colin Rinkydink. Likely blowback and implied support for Cappy, who remains steadfastly unemployed(able) at this time. Seeing as the NFL has no rules prohibiting it and the NFL can’t afford to cut all the players involved, looks like the players have the teams by the short and curlies on this one, for now at least. Will the sanctimonious drunken fans, many of whom, as Mike Florio points out this morning, are disrespectful during the anthem’s playing themselves, spiral into internet rage? Of course, but ticket sales and viewer rating are the only things that really matter, and no one foresees those changing in the least.

    The REAL irony here is that this is what the NFL (among others) gets for wrapping themselves up in the flag in the first place. Pre-game flag rituals now resemble nothing so much as Nazi or Stalinist Russia state political parades (thank you 9-11, the gift that keeps on giving!). What do sports – other than as free advertising for the military pointed at impressionable military aged young men – have to do with national anthems in the first place?