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Of course, you already sense that the 2024 election will be a freaky event, if it happens at all. If it’s not America’s last election altogether, it may be the last one that follows the traditional format that has signified stability in our country’s high tide as a great power: that is, a contest between Republicans and Democrats. Both parties are likely to crash and burn in the year ahead, along with a whole lot of other things on the tottering scaffold of normal life.
Have you lost count yet of the number of things in our country that are broken? The justice system. Public safety. Education. Medicine. Money. Transportation. Housing. The food supply. The border. The News business. The arts. Our relations with other countries. That’s just the big institutional stuff. At the personal scale it’s an overwhelming plunge in living standards, loss of incomes, careers, chattels, liberties. . . poor health (especially mental health). . . and failing confidence in any plausible future.
The reasons behind all that failure and loss are pretty straightforward. The business model for operating a high-tech industrial economy is broken. That includes especially the business model for affordable energy: oil, gas, nuclear, and the electric grid that runs on all that. We opted out of an economy that produced things of real value. We replaced that with a financial matrix of banking fakery. That racket made a very few people supernaturally wealthy while incrementally dissolving the middle-class. We destroyed local and regional business and scaled up what was left into super-giant predatory companies that can no longer maintain their supply chains. Fragility everywhere in everything.
Bad choices all along the way, you could say, but perhaps an inexorable process of nature. Things are born, they grow, they peak, they decline, they die. The difference this time is the scale of everything we do is so enormous that the wreckage is also epic. It’s happening in Western Civ at the moment, led by its biggest nation state, us, the USA, but it will eventually go global, spread to the BRICs and the many countries that will never actually “develop.”
I started writing about the fiasco of suburbia decades ago, and now the endgame of that living arrangement is in view. The dissolving middle class has gotten priced-out of motoring. Motoring is the basis of the suburban living arrangement. No motoring, no suburbia. It’s that simple. There was widespread belief among idealistic reformers that suburbia could just be “retrofitted” for “smarter” daily life, but that dream is over. The capital (money) is not there to fix it, and there’s no prospect that we’ll somehow come up with it as far ahead as we can see.
So far, the collapse of suburbia has happened in slow motion, but the pace is quickening now and it’ll get supercharged when the bond markets go down, as they must, considering the country’s catastrophic fiscal circumstances. That will produce exactly the zombie apocalypse telegraphed in all those movies and TV series over recent years: normality overrun by demonic hungry ghosts. Every day in suburbia will be Halloween, and not in a fun way.
All this is apprehended to some degree by the increasingly frightened public, though they have a hard time articulating it within any of the popular frameworks presented by politics, religion, or what appears lately to be extremely corrupt science. The people see what’s coming but they can’t make sense of it, and the stress makes a great many of them insane. Without a way to construct a coherent view of reality, or tell the difference between what’s real and what’s not, they behave accordingly: anything goes and nothing matters.
In the face of all this the two big political parties are helpless and clueless. The Democrats have made themselves into a giant feedback loop amplifying the poor mental health of their constituents. They are in CrazyLand, where there are no boundaries anymore, and to insist that there should be is an affront that gets you cancelled. They are in upside-down inside-out world. Hillary Clinton demonstrated this perfectly the other day on ABC’s The View when she accused her party’s opponents of trying to “do away with elections, trying to do away with the opposition, and do away with a free press….” It’s hard to imagine a more impressive lack of self-awareness.
.@HillaryClinton tells #TheView a win for former Pres. Trump in 2024 "would be the end of our country as we know it." https://t.co/cVclFZQmjA pic.twitter.com/E8tevUoZbs
— The View (@TheView) November 8, 2023
And, of course, they are the party of “Joe Biden,” the moneygrubbing ghoul pretending to be president and pretending to run for another term — with hard evidence of his crimes publicly unspooling day by day now. The Democratic Party will not survive after an election that he runs in, and there is plenty of reason to believe that his regime might cancel or postpone the election on account of some contrived “emergency.”
The Republican Party is also badly splintered. Forces in the party are trying like hell to dissociate from Donald Trump, despite his clear domination in the polling. And another faction led informally by Rep. Matt Gaetz and new speaker Mike Johnson is in active rebellion against the GOP blob cabal around deposed speaker Kevin McCarthy, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, and the evanescent uber-fool, Mitt Romney.
You may have seen candidate Vivek Ramaswamy go after Republican Party chair Ronna McDaniel (Mitt’s niece) in this week’s debate, a pretty savage attack, but well-earned. Ms. McDaniel has a unique libido for losing elections. She has especially helped deploy money from the GOP campaign war chest against candidates in her own party. The perfidy is quite out of this world. And it looks like the Matt Gaetz / Mike Johnson faction is good and goddam sick of it, too.
The net result of all this internal strife is a party that can’t function as an opposition to the Democratic Party of Chaos. So, chaos reigns for now. Chaos at the border. Chaos in foreign wars. Chaos in government finance. Chaos in the streets and the stores. Chaos in the school curricula. Chaos in the kids’ minds. Chaos in the household. Chaos in the supply chains. You can expect the chaos to really amp up when the financial markets blow and every household mired in debt faces its own margin call — along with every business in America.
Meanwhile, Mr. Trump slogs through an Okeefenokee Swamp of tribulations laid before him like the supernatural character he is. If he gets to the nomination despite it all, and happens to win the election, if there is one, every reptile and rodent will get bum-rushed out of the party and it will be transformed into something new. If not, the brand is finished and many in it will be looking to start a completely different brand.
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Interesting in that I just returned from a trip where a bunch of us old friends met up, some who I hadn’t seen in years. They all used to roll their eyes when I’d talk about where we were headed as a country. Now each and everyone of them are more radicalized than me. They are pissed, god help those in power when the shtf.
Same here, as old friends, and even family, are increasingly concerned enough to arm and ammo up, with expressions of hope they can survive what is coming. Folks who were never armed are now doing so and most are also training with their newly acquired arms. Like the long-time expressed thought, “better to die on your feet than grovel on your knees”, seems to be taken seriously by most I have encountered, including the women who have likewise armed themselves. Wish the approaching storms on the horizon were not so, but wishing and hoping is not a survival plan.
Its people like that who led us to our present predicament. They probably voted for civil rights.
When I hear boomers complain, I ask them if they voted for Wallace. Generally, they look at me with astonishment, and say “of course not.” Then I tell them to shut the fuck up.
What if we didn’t vote for Wallace but voted for Buchanan?
I was in 7th grade in 1992. We had a mock election in a school of 300-some kids. Bush, Sr. won by a couple votes. I was the only kid who wrote in Buchanan…
Buchanan’s campaign was thrown into utter confusion when he picked an unknown Black woman as his running mate.
Why would any sane White man do that? Pandering to those who would never vote for him I assume.
“women who have likewise armed themselves”
I know a woman rather well who was always against guns, hunting, etc. until she recently got attacked by some homeless people. Now she’s practicing at the range and taking shooting lessons.
Fine article. One minor quibble. The pricing of people out of suburbia is a deliberate strategy to fulfill a globalist goal.
The pricing of people out of suburbia will help usher in the 15-minute city. After all, those without transportation will have no choice but to live in one of those places.
I see it like this:
We are in a big game of musical chairs at the moment except when the music stops and you do not find yourself in a chair, you will be hustled off to whatever 15-minute city suits your income bracket.
Worse still, those who receive their sustenance from Uncle Sugar will find that those transfer payments now come in the form of a CBDC and those programmable dollars will only work within their 15-minute zone and will only allow for them to purchase approved items at the local Company Store.
When it is done playing out, we’ll have our 1984/Brave New World caste system in place. Those with wealth will get Brave New World while those without will get 1984 with some Farenheit 451 thrown in for good measure.
Everybody running for president is acting as if this is not happening.
Everyone running for president supports the 15-minute city. They support class warfare and wish to see things return to the Great Depression because the poor no longer “know their place”.
I like to watch movies made during the Great Depression. I understand that it is Hollywood but it still gives a glimpse of cultural norms. What I find interesting about it is that everyone who works has a uniform that identifies them whether it be a taxi cab driver, elevator operator, maid, doorman, soda jerk, whatever.
The wealthy get to run around and treat these people like crap – like children and even addressing a wealthy person out of turn would be enough to get a person fired and in the Great Depression, that was a big deal.
Today, the poor and working-class go to and ruin places like Disneyland, cruise ship tours and commercial airline travel. I say that because the 15-minute city also comes with a restriction on the poor being allowed to fly and I bet their CBDCs will not be programmed to allow them to buy tickets to Disneyland or 7-day cruises to the Bahamas.
The wealthy wish to enjoy their world without having to worry about the poor being allowed into their casinos, airplanes, cruise ships, amusement parks, neighborhoods, freeways, etc.
The Empire Strikes Back is where we are now and peasants are about to be put back in their place once and for all and for being uppity, will be forced to live on eating bugs.
“…forced to live on eating bugs”.
Not I. There is still one ultimate freedom no matter what. We do not have to live. We can check out. We still have control over our own physical body. ‘Live Free or Die’ has new meaning.
Earth is a very dark, dense, hard place. But it is not the only place. And this life is not the only life. And I don’t mean some “Christian” heaven either.
We’re in One Big Classroom for learning what it means to be souls. This life is just one wink of the eye on the “other side”.
I’m 75. I’ve had a interesting ride. I am ready to go any old time. I’ll just stop eating. I sure as hell will not be eating any fucking bugs.
I like to watch movies made during the Great Depression. I understand that it is Hollywood but it still gives a glimpse of cultural norms. What I find interesting about it is that everyone who works has a uniform that identifies them whether it be a taxi cab driver, elevator operator, maid, doorman, soda jerk, whatever.
What’s also interesting is that those occupations are extinct or nearly so now.
Taxicab driver: Gradually being replaced by Uber commanders.
Elevator operator: As obsolete as crossing sweepers.
Maid: Reduced in rank to house cleaners and vanished in all but homes of the ultra-rich.
Doorman: Rare specimens even in posh hotels and apartment buildings.
Soda jerk: Pffft. Gone.
I can call up fragmented memories from my childhood of occasionally encountering elevators manned by dedicated operators and of drugstore soda fountains with ice cream engineers. So long ago, now. “The past is another country,” and all that.
I wouldn’t say the loss or severe decline of such vocations is tragic. Even back then no one had ambition to punch elevator buttons and tug open and closed the protective gates. As for soda jerks, the name speaks for the mild contempt in which they were held.
But despite their low status and repetitive drudgery, such jobs at least allowed the occupants to feel they performed a social benefit directly for others. Those whom they served were visible and occasionally expressed appreciation. The apartment doorman could expect Christmas gifts or tips from the quality folk he held doors open and summoned taxis for.
How many bottom-rung job holders now can take any pride in their activities?
The cleaners who sweep carpets and empty trashcans at night in office towers? The pizza deliverers? The product packers in Amazon’s measureless warehouses?
Those at the bottom of the food chain have had a rough time of it in all societies in all eras. But arguably, they had a little more dignity when those old black-and-white movies were made.
If they act like it’s not happening, the hoi polloi won’t think it is.
FG3 at 2:13 pm,
Beautiful. Thank you.
Especially in times like these, it’s important to remember that this life we’re living with all its immediate pleasures and misfortunes is not the sum of our existence. It is important but only, as Joel Goldsmith put it, “a parenthesis in eternity.”
Nickel,
…My Smith and my Colt, they comfort me….
Nice menu for change, most will not have the appetite for it.
Need to throw in The Penultimate Truth by Philip K. Dick for desert.
Just bought it for my Kindle – $2.99 !!
Hard copies of important books would be a good idea.
Great “return to your roots” post this morning, Jim. Glad to have you back.
Jimmy Word– Your notion that I went sojourning somewhere else is erroneous and not appreciated. If you’re gonna be a suck-up, be a little respectful in the process. — JHK-Admin
Counterpoint: it’s almost “Black Friday” again and the official kickoff of the annual holiday bacchanalia, where shopping and holiday season football reigns supreme. For most Americans, everything else pales in comparison. No money? No problem. Pretty much everyone who can fog a mirror – and no doubt many who definitely can’t – has plastic now, so let the cash registers ring with holiday cheer! The bills? Though they might come due in January, who knows if any of us will still be alive to see them? So let’s all party now and let tomorrow take care of itself!
The fly in that ointment is that credit card interest rates — as well as total credit card debt — are at all time highs. People are slowly figuring out they can’t live on their cards anymore. Some of them, anyway.
Indeed, they are sky high! I always pay mine off right away, but I believe they’re right at or north of 20% on all my cards. Is that about right?
If they can’t, they at least have the option of bankruptcy. Unlike student loan debt.
For some reason that debt is dealt with as if cancellation or perpetual indebtedness are the only two possible options.
Both parties are just fine with this, which tells me they both benefit from the status quo and don’t want anything to change, as if I didn’t already know that.
RFK Jr.s solution is to have the government make it easier for more people to take part in the racket Higher Ed has become, because he’s stuck in 1977 mentally.
@Beryl, I notice that our host was initially enthusiastic about RFK, Jr., but hasn’t mentioned him recently. I don’t claim to know what that means and will wait for him to tell us if he chooses, but I wonder if he has had a similar experience to my own – where, having looked more closely at his views on matters other than the vax, have found them troubling. It may not matter anyway, because I don’t think he has the slightest chance of being nominated for anything. He’s a distraction at this point, but what sort of distraction and for what reason I don’t know.
I may be gullible and naive, but I think RFK Jr. is earnest/sincere. I just don’t happen to.agree with him on some big things.
Heartlander, I think RFK is earnest and sincere too, for the most part.
When it comes to what’s happened to Trump, though, he’s right there with the two major parties.
Does he think Trump brought it on himself? How so?
In the last paragraph of today’s piece, JHK clearly points to Trump (and not RFK, Jr.) as the one person who can effect some positive change in DC, if by some miracle he survives his attackers and retakes the WH.
Then there’s always the issue of vote splitting, which can definitely affect an election even across party lines. However with the amount of rigging going on, maybe it won’t matter this time.
One of the few positive occurrences of the past decade is that fewer and fewer Americans are going to college and/or viewing college favorably, or as a necessity. Lower level colleges are now only for women and foreigners.
College is mostly a waste of time and money. If you believe any of the garbage taught in colleges you are likely to eventually wind up broke and mentally ill after nobody cares in the least about your “education” or your time in high school spent cheerleading. Future employers 10 years from now will be looking for real world skills like carpentry, welding, or farming. Your degree in history or sociology will be of zero value.
Yes. I never should have attended college. I wish I gone into the trades or become a farmer. Instead, I am stuck in an office, lit by fluorescent lights, typing away at the screen for 45+ hours each week. My family needs the healthcare, so I am stuck here until I mercifully die one day.
So, Americans will be unschooled in history, the arts, literature, their own language.
I’m trying to put together a file on the college issue but I keep losing track of the best articles.
One post I noticed that I can’t attribute until I find it again has to tdo with how the Liberal Arts diploma is sneered at today when that was the original reason for colleges at all.
Beryl,
You are absolutely correct. I prefer the term “classical” education over liberal arts. Today, those who go to college are not educated. They receive indoctrination and job training. If you were going to argue that the best and the brightest should be classically educated (Greek, Latin, etc.) I would agree. Even if that still existed, it would amount to about the top 5%, which is where Jefferson had it pegged.
Education nowadays is more about programming your mind to wokeism and WEF agendas, rather than developing critical thinking skills. Exceptions are engineering and trades. Medicine is now mostly about training drug pushers.
I graduated college with a BS in Civil Engineering. Worked as one for about 6 years, got a P.E. license and went off on my own. One of the major things I learned was problem analysis and solution testing.
Finally fell in with a small talented group (4 people) of software developers and really started learning. The difference between software development and regular programming is that a developer is self guided and rather fearless whereas a programmer usually works off a very detailed specification.
Developers are usually the ones who work on projects which are new and undefined. Not for the faint of heart. We don’t spend time in meetings…
Been doing this for 30 years and have had a lot of fun!
@tractorguy
If credit card rates are “the fly in the ointment”, then
“the annualized interest cost of government debt past $1 trillion”, according to Bloomberg Tuesday, November 07, is the “ELEPHANT in the room”.
My whole adult life, our debt has been setting new records, and I’ve often thought, “is this it?” Well, this may be IT! Today or in the next five years. Perhaps no social security for me….
So, I tried to google the 2024 budget, but I couldn’t find a pretty summary. A lot of flowery BS though!
I don’t feel like wasting my time. It looks like a total spend of about $7 trillion–so I guess $1 trillion isn’t so bad, lol.
And we have projected deficit of $1.6 trillion.
And our “defense” will consume about $1 trillion. I don’t know if that includes the money we waste (sorry, AID) for Ukraine and Israel?
Per google, US GDP in 2021 was about $23.2 trillion. Let’s make it $26 trillion for 2024.
Googling the US ‘debt clock” shows $33.7 trillion in debt
(that’s just the sum of PAST money borrowed (deficits and interest on it). It does NOT cover huge liabilities, like Social Security and Medicare, which don’t show up here. It doesn’t cover private debt.
municipal debt). Debt and lending are based on the promise to pay.
As the “old” JHK would say, when faith that the debt can be serviced evaporates, the system implodes. So, will the US implode, or will we go into hyperinflation so the debt can be paid with grossly depreciated dollars? What will ‘Murica do, if/when we start adding ZEROs to our bills like Zimbabwe?
Those budget numbers and proportions would have seemed pretty alarming in 1955. Or in 1964, just before the cost of Vietnam began to skyrocket, and before the cost of entitlements hit in.
Let alone now, with an economy that doesn’t make the essentials it consumes, with entitlements, mass immigration, and (wasteful) wars galore–and slow, but clear, implosion of the dollar, which allowed us to send paper dollars to others and get Toyota, Hyundais, iPhones, shoes, all the kitch at Costco and Walmart in return.
I’m sure it will all work out. Biden, Yellen, Powell, are all really smart people, lol! Not to mention Wall Street.
Well, it will work out for the leaders of Wall Street. It always does. The other 99.9%, i’m not so sure. Anyway.
And yes, it’s good to see JHK return to his “roots” today.
It’s really impossible to comprehend, but US federal debt is increasing by $1,000,000,000,000.00 every forty days.
That doesn’t sound right. One trillion every 40 days is $9 trillion a year!
@Ishabaka Are you sure?
This was a result of the debt ceiling fight, which caused a sudden spike in debt so the US could restore its NY Fed checking account. During the build up to these debt ceiling fights, which always end with raising the debt, the FED manipulates its accounts to run them down to bare bones. Then woosh dept out the wazoo. They put on 1.5 trillion in the last 2 months building those accounts back up.
Now they have ammo for more waste
Great article Jim
This is planned destruction of the country’s working apparatus. How else could Blackrock and Blackstone buy it back for cents on the dollar.
Imagine the cops mostly all quitting and tens of thousands of people making up huge mobs in NYC invade and wreck all the offices on Wall St.. They drive out all the people working inside the big office towers out into the streets where they are mercillessly beaten to death. Next the mobs wreck all the financial office buildings and set them on fire. After destroying Wall St. the mobs head on over to Long Island and sweep it clean of most all of its former inhabitants. Then loot and destroy all the multimillion dollar homes and drive the former inhabitants into the sea. Then after no more food is available to steal, most everyone dies of starvation and the coyotes are running around feasting on all the bodies laying around. After it’s done we can then truthfully say that America has literally gone to the dogs.
Many of the mobs would be from Long Island–if they have a way of getting to Manhattan.
Not every one lives on the Gold Coast (the estates on the North Shore), and many, MOST, Long Islanders are like hamsters on wheel with punitively high income taxes, property taxes, real estate and horrible traffic. They are maxxed out!
If not, there will be plenty of New Yorkers, both “old” (as in white/black/Puerto Rican) and “new” (Asian) in Manhattan and Brooklyn who can walk and join the mob.
Hog,
I think I felt my GliT move….
The cities of the CT coast are hell-scapes. Maybe the denizens will launch an invasion of the gold coast via the Long Island Sound.
How it can be that a nation with debt of 120% of GDP. or $100k per capita is going to borrow money to give to a country with debt of 60% of GDP. or $30k per capita?
I’ve wondered what the ptb will do when the inflection point is reached where millions realize they won’t be able to pay the minimum on their plastic and say fuck it, and max it to the limit and hold up their middle finger to the banks.
Bailouts?
Well, we know what they are going to do. You’ll be holding up your middle finger from inside your 15-minute city where you’ll be locked in with other people who maxed out their cards, MS13, illiterate immigrants, etc. You will, though, get to eat bugs so I guess that is something.
Another great article JHK. The recent anti-Israel demonstrations that have taken over cities throughout Canada and the United States are yet another example of now mind-fucked we’ve all become. It’s pretty hard to maintain your sanity when millions of fellow citizens are calling for the destruction of Western civilization and the replacement of rules-based order with Woke tyranny . You hit the nail on the head: it’s everything goes and nothing matters.. Things will only get worse as everything breaks down and their is no center to hold it together. Is it too much to hope for a military coup before the next election?
Of course, it only took a few minutes for someone here to conflate the Israeli industrial-grade siege and slaughter of Palestinians, and the racist, sophisticated (not like those Afrikaaners, no, surveillance technology and drones have moved on–and when that fail, just shoot a Palestinian! Like drunk KKK boys did in Alabama in 1920) with Western Civilization.
Yep, protesting against industrial murder is calling for the destruction of Western Civ! The nerve of these people.
Let’s just shoot them, the way the Israelis do the Palestinians!
Yes, because doing away with the White government in South Africa has turned that country into the garden spot in all of Africa.
There are direct parallels to that country and Israel by the way.
The Zulu tribe all but murdered every native tribe in South Africa so when the Boers really started moving in there was little to no one there to compete with.
In a couple of hundred years, they had a functioning country and the black chain migration from north to south happened and suddenly they had people screaming the whites took our land.
The rest is a sordid history of the White minority that held the country together getting fucked over their generations of hard work being stolen, plundered and now South Africa is the child rape capitol of the entire planet. SA got Zimbabwe’d!
The country is being run by hard core Communists and they are destroying it lock stock and barrel.
As I have said many times , I don’t believe for a second that a few thousand , or even a few million , alternative – fetish perverts are behind milllions of dollars – worth of LGBTQ press.
It was a while ago , but I seem to recall South Africa being all over CBS , NBC , ABC , etc , incessantly —
— And does Sally Lot Lizard from trailer park row own CBS ? —
and wondering what the fuck possible interest Americans could have in the Transvaal ?
And , here , likewise , I kinda doubted , and still doubt , Communist Zulu’s behind the expensive Punch and Judy Show.
Except of course , as I have also repeatedly said ,
the largest number of no – question – about – it , true – believing Communists I have ever met were in the more affluent American neighborhoods.
benr: If you like going down rabbit holes search “who CONTROLS Anglo American South Africa”. You’ll have an adventure akin to searching for the holy grail. The point being all roads seem to lead back to the UK and Rhadanite banksters. . IOW the communists who have taken over SA don’t appear to
still want Anglo American in their nation, leading to the question of “who created communism and for what purpose? It’s similar to the under reported rabbit hole you’ll find if you research “who financed the Bolshevik Revolution and WHY.” OR the true history of Karl Marx…
bener : CORRECTION the SA leaders appear to STILL WANT Anglo American in their nation.
@benr wow!
I actually agree with you…on one point.
That is, that South Africa is falling apart. From what I READ (I haven’t been, but I believe it), they now have rolling blackouts because the electric grid has collapsed due to poor (or NO) management.
Crime has skyrocketed. At some point, the whites began using private security for protection. Now I think the BLACKS are doing the same.
Society there is degenerating into. ACTUALLY, it’s kind a real-world example of the Long Emergency JHK hintes at in his yellow and black book of the same name. Organized chaos and vigilantism.
I grant you that.
Beyond that, I don’t know. There are many sub-currents on the “black scene” in South Africa, it’s not my expertise. But it does appear that the Black government is scapegoating the whites, and the whites don’t seem to have any friends, and they are being compelled to defend themselves. I hope they can hold out–despite their ancestors’ sins, they did create South Africa.
There are also sub-currents to the white scene (Boer vs. English) that I don’t know.
So, yes, the there seems to be a backlash. Probably, the opportunistic BLACK LEADERS are scapegoating the whites for real and IMAGINED crimes.
Life is harsh. I’m not a Boer or white South African. It is NOT MY PROBLEM.
I don’t want the US to send $ billions to “save the whites” any more than I want the US to send $ billions to enable the Israelis to slaughter the natives.
Those who feel strongly should dip into their pockets and write a check to the Israeli government. Or better yet, they should fly to Israel and join the IDF, preferably as volunteer in the attack on Gaza. Any volunteers? Probably NONE.
And those who feel strongly that Israel is abusing the Palestinians, which it is, should be able to do the same–write a check, or fly into the middle east, pick up an AK, and support their cause.
You take South Africa and you extrapolate that to Palestine. Very clever.
But the Israelis and Palestinians have much in common. They have their bizarre way of writing, and they both hate pork. Perhaps they might have been able to build on that.
And the native Arabs had been there for hundreds of years, before Theodor Herzl and Lord Balfour’s declaration, in a quest to get more financial backing for Britain’s war effort.
Since 1948, Israel always had the upper hand, thanks to the US. Even in the 1950s, when the US looked for US INTERESTS first, the US had made it clear to the USSR and the Arabs that it would always give Israel enough to make sure it had the edge. After LBJ, who let Israel get away with killing 32 Americans, it was clear that Israeli interests owned the Democrat party. And later Nixon. And the rest.
So now, it looks like Zionists can rejoice!
Just like Dec 07 enabled Roosevelt and Churchill to rejoice, as it facilitated the US entry into the war against Germany (an evil regime, to be sure, but one which did NOT harm America to the best of my knowledge, though they did harm my ancestors in Greece)
Oct 07 will enable the Israeli government to implement their Final Solution, and clear Israel of Palestinians. And that is what they are doing.
So, once Israel is done, all the Likudniks here should savor Israel’s victory–because it won’t last long.
The middle east is not southern Africa–it’s much more central to the world–literally and figuratively.
There will be blowback.
And it may well be the brick that breaks the USA’s back, in terms of global geopolitics, and quite likely, in the resulting domestic repercussions. Indebtedness and the loss of the “dollar privilege” and the general division here between “woke” and the “awake”.
But I do have a question: Is “Eretz Israel” the area “between the river and the sea”, or is it Israel’s divine right to take the area between Mesopotamia and the sea?
Soc-Det: Nations are born in blood: South Africa, Israel, and the United States.
Heraclitus — ‘War is father of all, and king of all. He renders some gods, others men; he makes some slaves, others free.’
The two blue stripes on the Israeli flag: Everything between the two rivers, the Nile and the Euphrates. Or is it the Tigris?
Sweden – Yes!
Prosperous Sweden deemed itself a human rights super-power and donated vast sums to help the Xhosa (not the Zulus) overthrow White South Africa.
They knew they could do Blacks better than the horribly racist United States so they started bringing in vast numbers of them. Now they are the rape capital of Europe.
The Xhosa were able to get control of the ANC in South Africa. Or they were given control of it. In any case, they are the leading tribe there. The Zulus lost out in terms of funding and guidance.
Jarek, we agree on something!
“They knew they could do Blacks better than the horribly racist United States so they started bringing in vast numbers of them.”
That’s half the reason they (and the rest of the Nordic countries, if not most of Europe) are in the mess they are in.
It wasn’t just the blacks, it extended to any culture but their own, as long as it wasn’t white.
They had an inferiority complex about the USA, so they heard slavery and racism where our great sins, so they were going to be better than us at SOMETHING.
There’s something faster, S-D, which is your victimization reflex from Israel Derangement Syndrome and your hatred of the God of Israel. Like Hamas and those infected with Islamic envy and murderous intent, you’re the number one victim of your bile. But there are also dire consequences for those infected or inflamed by your diseased spirit and speech, so neither are you guiltless.
The “rules-based order” IS Woke Tyranny, fyi.
The rules-based order is the alternative to international law, pushed by the same people who push “Western values”, like trannies and CRT.
Most countries in the world are opposed to the rules-based order, since the rules are arbitrary, secret (because they are invented on the fly, whenever the US wants to sanction, attack, or bomb another country), enforced unevenly, and are completely subject to US Empire, not treaties agreed upon by the actual international community.
Western civilization invented international law. The US Empire invented the “rules-based order”, and only recently, to boot.
That you have adopted it as your standard shows that you are internalizing the rhetoric of your owners.
You might want to back up, and question their pronouncements a bit more carefully.
Communism was just a tool. The have a better tool now. You and yours are out in the cold so you all grabbed onto what was familiar: Russia – now Fascist!
How very human….
The recent anti-Israel demonstrations that have taken over cities throughout Canada and the United States are yet another example of now mind-fucked we’ve all become. It’s pretty hard to maintain your sanity when millions of fellow citizens are calling for the destruction of Western civilization and the replacement of rules-based order with Woke tyranny .
What are you saying? Anyone who doesn’t support Israel’s actions is “mind-fucked”? Opposition to endlessly sending U.S. taxpayers’ money and ordnance to Israel is “calling for the destruction of Western civilization”?
For what it’s worth, my former modest sympathy with Palestinians — they have gotten a raw deal from Israel for 75 years — dissolved in a few hours of Hamas’s atrocities on October 7. But the IDF and Israeli air force campaign of leveling Gaza to the ground with no consideration for civilians is the definition of terrorism. Neither side is innocent in this dreadful confrontation.
The Cradle has footage that Israel has released of hundreds of scorched cars from the festival on October 7th. The Hamas fighters didn’t have weapons to do this. It was the overwhelming response by the Israeli military with Apache gunships. The IDF fighters are speaking out of the confusion on that day of understanding who was a target. They killed many of their own citizens. Yes, the HAMAS atack was a terrorist action with no regard for what harm it would cause to innocent citizens, but the IDF response on the 7th was another Netty Yahoo screw up.
@why_weren’t_we
Yesterday, the Israeli government officially lowered the death toll of the Oct 07 Hamas attack from 1,400 to 1,200.
They said many of the victims who could not be identified were Hamas.
So, I agree with you. I agree based on anecdotal comments, from Israelis themselves, ranging from a surviving hostage to high-level officials are that the priority is “killing Hamas”, not extracting hostages, though rescuing the hostages remains an important objective.
As you note, a bunch of Hamas armed with rifles and grenades, and knowing that the more heavily armed Israeali Army and police are on their way would not be able to cause so much damage–unless some how they miraculously found all kinds of explosives, or hi-jacked tanks and started driving them.
I’ve heard an account where an IDF tank fired on kibbutz homes to take out Hamas. Well, they took out the houses and everyone in them except one 4-year old Israeli girl who some how survived miraculously. I hope she has some family.
The Israeli government is on a mission to remove the Palestinians. “Make hay while the sun is shining”. “Remove the Palestinians while our American puppets are covering for us. Maybe they will start a war with Iran to take the spotlight off Gaza”.
Will the Israelis succeed? I give them a 70% chance that yes, they will remove ALL the native Palestinian Arabs from Gaza, and a 50% chance the West Bank too.
I believe that a confluence of factors drove the Israeli government to provoke Hamas, so Israel could have its “Pearl Harbor moment” and unite the majority of Israelis in the Likud quest (one NOT shared by many Israeli and American Jews, but they are a minority, and not the ones with the power) to eliminate the Palestinians once and for all.
I believe Israeli govt deliberately dropped its guard on the night of Oct 06/Oct 07. And I believe they got what they wanted—but they were SURPRISED by the MAGNITUDE. No worries! The more dead, the better for our cause! And to inflated the dead, they added hundreds of dead Hamas. I’m still waiting for “bayoneted babies” to be confirmed. No matter, they served their propaganda purpose.
Time will tell.
On the other hand, Hamas knew this would be the reaction from Israel. They obviously know that many Israelis, certainly the ones that MATTER, the ones in charge, Netenyahu and others, as well as many American NeoCons and Likudniks, like the departed Sheldon Adelson and his wife, to whom Trump gave a Congressional Medal of Freedom, and the Republicans whom she gave $200 million in 2020), despise the Palestinians and consider them untermensch (that’s sub-human, a term certain Germans used from 1935-45).
I think Hamas though underestimated the slaughter. Still, in a perverse, sick way, it does help Hamas politically by making the point that the Palestinians killed at will by Israel, whether with bombs or bullets.
Bibi and Hamas both underestimated, and their constituencies both paid the price, though obviously the Palestinians are paying the MUCH bigger price. Then, again the Gazans future was slavery. The poor Israelis who died had decent lives and decent opportunity.
Hamas thinks that with enough time, world public opinion, and/or Arab public opinion, will result in a change in Israeli policy that will lead to a better outcome for Palestinians. Scott Ritter thinks it will work and “Hamas is winning” I find him interesting, but I don’t agree. I give Hamas a 15% chance of “success”–if you can call the desolate rubble that will be left a victory.
Here might makes right. And to prove my point, Saturday/today, Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant on warned Iran-backed Hezbollah that launching a war would result in widespread destruction in Lebanon.
“What we’re doing in Gaza, we can do in Beirut”
HIS words, not mine. He KNOWS what his country is doing. Industrial scale slaughter, while the world watches, some talk, but no one does anything. Money trumps everything, and doing the right thing would cost money
People can say all they want about Hamas, but I’d say the current Israeli government is as terroristic as Hamas. Just look at Gaza.
Now, before people get excited here, I will also say that the Israeli military could have leveled Gaza completely, with or without nukes 3 weeks ago. It has not.
Whether it has not done so because of some small pangs of conscience or moral qualms, or whether it has calculated that incinerating Gaza (which would also make it easier to develop into condos and golf courses, using desalinated water) is too ghastly for America to control world reaction that might lead to WW3, that I cannot know.
It’s important, in the sense of fairness, to note that Israel has not nuked Gaza. But I still believe Israeli actions are oriented toward the removal of all Palestinians from Gaza. First the north, then the south. And then the West Bank.
We will see if the Israelis get away with it or I’m proven wrong.
Soc-Det: Another fine post. Can the Israelis live with them long term? They will be outbred and out voted. As you say, make hay while the sun still shines. They still have that element of virility which we have lost.
Given their treatment of us, I cannot have much sympathy for them. But on the other hand, if I suffered under Muslim terror in Europe, I might feel differently and have a different sympathy balance.
We have become little more than a slave race. Don’t you agree?
Although in the old days, I believed the Official Narratives, including that Sirhan Sirhan killed RFK because of his position on Israel, I had no opinion on Palestinians until 1972, when they kidnapped and murdered Israeli athletes in Munich. Then I took an active dislike for them, only reinforced by learning of the assassinations, hijackings and murder of the Black September group, in Jordan and Europe.
I also worked with a Palestinian doctor who I hated, so there is that. Plus, a Syrian doctor I worked with told me that a PLO leader told his father (who was a diplomat), that the PLO had a policy of trying to outbreed the Israelis. I think that overpopulation is a problem, especially for people living in a freaking desert. Women are not breeding machines, imo, and using them as such is despicable. So, unlike you, Vegan, I didn’t start with any sympathy for them.
It is Israel whom I have lost sympathy for, mostly because of their pushing their way into actual Palestinian land, burning their olive trees and stealing their houses and land.
That is unacceptable and provocative.
So that is how I developed my present stance of A Pox On Both Your Houses.
“No consideration for civilians”? Are you really this ignorant of facts well-demonstrated repeatedly, or are you intentionally lying? Your name suggests the latter.
I submit a portion of an email from a friend in Israel:
“Israel did attack the Jabaliya refugee camp located in the northern Gaza Strip, but only after two weeks during which the IDF did everything in its power to evacuate innocent civilians from there. Israel has created a humanitarian corridor that leads to the north of the Gaza Strip, where there is electricity, food, water, medicine and everything that is needed. In their cruelty, Hamas are the ones preventing the people of Gaza from moving south. They threaten them and their families with weapons, while they try to move forward. They use civilians as human shields to justify their horrific attacks on Israel. There is a clear evidence that they are hiding under hospitals and deliberately launching rockets at the civilian population. Just last week, senior Hamas official Abu Marzouk (Musa Mohammed Abu Marzouk, deputy head of the political bureau of Hamas), made a frank statement: the underground tunnels are meant to protect Hamas. The alternate national explainer noted and added without confusion: So I ask, who is responsible for the security of the people in Gaza? ‘The UN and Israel’ he answered (Abu Marzouk). They have stated that they do not care about the welfare of their own people and surprising as it may sound at this point, it is Israel that has done more to keep the citizens of Gaza safe.
Take care and stay in touch,
Dror
Interesting comment. Jabaliya is in the north of Gaza, about two miles from Israel, per google.
“..Israel created a humanitarian corridor that leads to the NORTH of the Gaza Strip, where there is electricity, food, water, …. and Hamas are the ones preventing the preventing the people of Gaza from moving SOUTH”.
That sounds like difficult contradiction. Might that be the reason some Gazans died? They didn’t know which way to go? And Hamas blocked them?
“It is Israel that has done more to keep the citizens of Gaza safe.” Yes, in the sense that they haven’t nuked Gaza, like minster suggested. Even as they bomb Gaza to bits, I do concede that the Israeli military could have leveled the whole place by now. But I still see buildings standing.
So yes, just blockade, bombs. For now. Oh, and never mind what’s happening in the West Bank, where Israeli consideration for Palestinians is on full display.
So, if HALF the images from Gaza are true, if the deaths are only HALF as much, and Israel is trying to destroy Hamas, do you think that some you Gazan who just lost one, or more of his loved ones, maybe all of them, do you think he will reflect and say
“this is bad, this needs to stop, we need to stop Hamas”
or do you think he might say “my family is dead. My home destroyed. Why should I live? I will seek vengeance and join Hamas, and inflict as much punishment as I can, or die trying?”
Just curious how this whole “eliminate Hamas” thing is going to work out? Lots of new volunteers. The new Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, by definition an ally of Israel, made the same observation.
Unless “eliminate Hamas” is simply code for “eliminate Palestinians”. Preferably have them leave, but if don’t or won’t leave…you know.
Because it seems to me, if there was a cease-fire now, which I think there should be, Hamas will have many new volunteers who might not have volunteered before.
Of course, if America implodes, the big question is–how will we fulfill our obligation to support Israel with billions in dollars and with our big military deployed in the Middle East? What then?
“Is it too much to hope for a military coup before the next election?”
WTactualF? Is this ‘wish’ your only hope of seeing Drumpf as President again? I have never heard of or read of such a nutjob idea…seriously. Did you not see Milley’s retirement speech? Or are you one of the crazies that want to see him shot for ‘treason’ (simply because Trump suggested it)?
youtube.com/results?search_query=general+milley%27s+speech
He never left his roots
Not that Kunstler and I are buddies ,
not that I am a mind reader,
but I get the distinct impression that this artist really doesn’t like even a hint of being told what to write.
Not a criticism of him ,
not a criticism of you.
I hope both will take it as intended friendly advice
I think it’s a little bit more than that.
I’m a “suck up” now for merely being polite? Thin skim, Jim. VERY thin skin!
Jimmy Word– Your notion that I went sojourning somewhere else is erroneous and not appreciated. If you’re gonna be a suck-up, be a little respectful in the process. — JHK-Admin
Ouch! There’s that Scorpio sting. Don’t fuck with JHK, or else!
Ah .
Scorpio , Libra ?
Suddenly the poor thing has a fucking stalker named Kesa.
Yeah, Jim’s being a little bitch this morning.
Enjoy your chat here, boys and girls, but never think it’s an open discussion. JHK has introduced a new “lite” form of censorship and any troublesome remark that can’t be refuted will be killed in a more passive-aggressive way: “Awaiting Moderation”!
Rudy — There’s an algo in the WordPress blogging platform that labels any comment with a live link as “awaiting moderation.” You can post the same darn link as un-live (cut and paste) and it’ll will go right up. So, don’t attribute malign motives to me when you don’t understand how something works. — JHK-Admin
Twice in 2 weeks I’ve posted comments & they haven’t been “censored… just not posted, with the promise that they were “awaiting moderation”…all effing WEEK! So, while “censorship” erases someone’s post, “Awaiting Moderation”, well, pretty much does the same, no? The first was a well-reasoned, non-aggressive observation, no name-calling or emotionalism. The second was simply a video of Norman Finklestein answering some Zionist’s often-repeated slur on Palestinians…quite handily! Both posts were calm, respectful contributions to (what I imagined) was a civil discussion. I’d simply misjudged the forum. Don’t make the same mistake.
Did you have any full web links in those posts? If so, that would explain it.
If not, perhaps JHK just doesn’t like your comments.
“Did you have any full web links in those posts? If so, that would explain it.”
Experienced by many of us on here. It’s the software.
Over the years, at the numerous places he’s published, never a hint JHK is other than a free speech individual.
Not GeorgeT — I sometimes do delete unusually stupid or rancid comments and even whole threads. It’s not a 100 percent free-for-all here. There are boundaries. I moderate with a pretty light hand. — JHK-Admin
Mr Mango beat me to it.
Any links in your posts ?
Moderation limbo happens to me in those cases.
if posting a link ,
do not copy – paste the https : //
Leaving that off lets me post the link ,
and I don’t get moderation.
Let’s test that theory, shall we?
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/09/us/politics/israel-hamas-gaza-deaths.html
No moderation there. I must have superpowers.
Odd that your message got through this time, though!
I got one of those moderation things today, the first time I’ve ever noticed it.
I’m not aware of doing anything different.
Ha, ha, that is hilarious. I wrote this comment and it went to moderation, even though I didn’t post a link. I just posted w.w.w, and that triggered the algorithm.
I have noticed that you get away with it usually, as did MaryQ.
I never get away with it. I usually take out the wxw., but if I forget and get the moderation message, I just post it again. No point in being paranoid.
I am convinced that there is no actual moderator on this site. I get the impression that JHK reads the comments for a while and then loses interest, and carries on with his own life.
Your comment is awaiting moderation.
Sympathies. Yes, I’ve decided that those kinds of issues are best taken up elsewhere on the internet. Lost of blogs out there. They’re not going to get a lot of traction here anyway. Or, at the very least, wait until late in the week/weekend and post after the comments section fills up. But you still won’t get a whole lot of traction, moderated out or not.
Lol , you CAN spread a lot of love on the internet.
Never the less , it is not the place to make friends.
The internet is a place to spread brain Covid , if you have any to infect folks with.
🙂
One drop at a time brings down a mountain , as those Chinese bastards say.
Or even make comments once you get on Kuntsler’s bad side, it would seem. Hey Jim, is that unsuckup enough for you?
“brain Covid”
Kesa,
Nice….
Stop whining, Rudy, and speak for yourself. If Finkelstein’s argument so handily exposes what you allege is a slur, you should be able to say it yourself. And it will be easy to answer you.
Not the host but the hosting software.
He has little control over that beyond switching brands.
I don’t expect either Trump or Biden to be on the ballot next November. I do expect someone to present themselves as some kind of saviour candidate – RFK Jr. is a possibility. The problem, of course, is that the “saviour” is no better than the country he leads.
Pray for America
The “savior” is clueless.
His take on the border situation- never has the expression “you don’t know the half of it been more appropriate.
Also where was the outrage from any of the people running for anything over the show trials of Donald Trump?
Are they pretending not to no, or are they really that obtuse?
Jill Stein is for some reason going to run again, for what reason I do not know, but there go some of RFK Jr.’s “green” votes.
I heard an interview with RFK Jr a few weeks ago where he talked about his visit to.the border and what he saw there, which sent him reeling. I mean, he was in SHOCK. I don’t think he’s an open-borders advocate !!!
He’s not. Being for an enforced border ought to be the bare minimum, because it’s a matter of law, for one thing.
The border issue is far bigger than “oh look, all of these people just up and decided to show up at out border, isn’t that a problem?” though.
Any fool out to be able to see what happened in Europe, and what is planned for this country.
Yep. Soros is a very smart guy. Very smart. I wish We the People had some smart guys who “get it”. An anti-Soros to cancel out the man himself and his Open Borders. That’s a brilliant plan.
Half way thru his term Trump said, I want all these people here because the economy is so good. Utterly fatuous. Pig ignorant of even the most basic understanding of resources or what a nation really is.
And of course a complete repudiation of what he ran on and a fuck you to his base.
At best he’s a mild conservative, all appearances to the contrary. What people do see is the force of his Will to overcome his enemies who denied him his second term. If he makes it, he’ll be as clueless as he was last time in terms of actual policy.
Yeah, and that’s why I’m not going to vote for him this time around. I don’t think there’s anybody to vote for this election.
Trump is an enigma. Is he “controlled opposition” playing his part? Or is he just a big dumb narcissist?
I’ve given him a nickname for his general mentality.
DUMB DON
Hey tuc, write in Ron Paul. I’m sure he’d serve if elected.
The real Dr Jill! Her followers call her Jill. Does she have a Jack?
Where is she on Palestine? That’s the real question.
Ray,
Cue Gavin Newsome….
AKA Mitt light….
I didn’t watch the debate, but I watched a clip somebody posted, of Vivek’s opening salvo.
I must say it brought a smile to my face, and to many others as well.
Ramaswampy should not be allowed within miles of the White House. Might as well re-elect Obama. I heard Vivek himself say we need more immigration. Mostly to take high tech jobs that he thinks Americans are too stupid to do.
It may be hard to prove him wrong.
Haha, valid point there.
I’m thinking more lazy than stupid.
He’s WEF. That all anyone needs to know. The enemy.
“expect the chaos to really amp up when the financial markets blow and every household mired in debt faces its own margin call”
I’ve always mused about how that would all go down. Why would anyone feel obligated to answer that margin call? That’s the day you strap up.
On the Republican party being, “transformed into something new.”
Something with integrity, honesty and rule of law, I’d hope. We’re more likely to get right wing tyranny, since they’ve now learned how to play that game from the Democrats.
There is nothing new to be transformed into, just something old and hidden from view. Same as it ever was.
That’s when the “bail ins” would come into effect. You do realize that once you give the bank your money it’s theirs, right? At that point you’re just another very small time creditor standing in a VERY long line of other such creditors. Whether or not your card is issued by the bank where you have your checking/savings, they still have direct access to your accounts. And bank failures are always a bottom up thing. The small fish get eaten first, with the big fish usually getting off scott-free.
There is nothing new to be transformed into, just something old and hidden from view. Same as it ever was.
^^^ Definition of the human condition
That said, those who try tend to turn out better than those that don’t, as least as far as their life arcs are recorded.
But I think recognizing a certain level of futility is healthy.
My personal nightmare is not being able to pay my property taxes, which keep going up, even as income keeps going down. Would the county really come and seize everything I own? I’m hoping that when the SHTF, they’ll be too busy worrying about other things to come put me off of my land.
That happened to many people during the Great Depression, and many a fortune was made by buying up the cheap foreclosures.
@ Beryl of Oyl:
In the little town where I lived until a couple of years ago, about one-fourth to one-third of the lots were county owned, and they still are. How this came about is a long story. As a result, we had very low property taxes; the county didn’t want to end up owning the whole town. The county obviously receives no property tax income from county-owned properties, so they’re willing to sell them pretty cheap, so they’ll have an owner who is paying property taxes.
Interestingly, this backwater little town–frankly, mostly scorned over the past five decades–is slowly but surely attracting new residents, who are building new homes. It’s not exactly a residential Mecca, but people are waking up to the fact that it has some of the most affordable housing–and bare dirt–for many, many miles around.
But here’s the hang-up: In the state of Missouri, if you buy a county-owned property (thus receiving a collector’s deed), you will be unable to obtain title insurance until 50 years from the time of purchase. That’s how long it will take to have a clear title. There are ways around this–or one way, at least. If you can locate the former owners, you can obtain a warranty deed from them. (They will want some small payment for this.)
But here’s the hitch: It can be almost impossible to locate the former owners, and often (since the town was developed over 50 years ago) you are talking about locating their heirs. And often the property never even went through probate. There was no probate, for the very sufficient reason that the deceased didn’t have a pot to piss in. Property owned in my former little town did not count as much of an asset, being of far too little value to be worth hiring an attorney and going to court to adjudicate its ownership. So the presumed heirs didn’t pay the taxes, and the county took the place back.
The reason I’m telling this long rigmarole story is because I’ve long wondered why the state of Missouri makes it impossible to obtain clear title on a tax-sale property for 50 years.
I think you may have answered my question: Maybe this law was passed to discourage speculators from trying to make a fortune by buying up cheap foreclosures–though the foreclosing entity in this case would be the county.
Of course the bottom line for my former home town is that nearly a third of the lots there will never be developed and will remain venerable stands of oak and hickory marching down into the holler, or nearly impenetrable thickets of brush, briars, and stickers. That might actually be a good thing. Living there was a lot like living in wilderness area, and it looks like it will stay that way.
How does right wing tyranny differ from left wing tyranny?
Just asking.
One comes with a light chicken gravy, I believe.
Don’t forget your brokerage too, (insert last failed trading house and guess who gets your money).
That’s my point.
Probably the only difference are the things you’re compelled to do…
I don’t do well with authority.
They like to get you in a compromising position, they like to get you there and smile in your face. They think, they’re so cute when they got you in that condition. Well I think, it’s a total disgrace. When I fight authority, authority always wins
Ya know?
“On the Republican party being, “transformed into something new.”
Something with integrity, honesty and rule of law, I’d hope. We’re more likely to get right wing tyranny, since they’ve now learned how to play that game from the Democrats./i>”
Exactly. If ANYONE actually believes that Trump & the MAGAts will save this sucker, then I have the proverbial bridge for them, too.
Rona McDaniel is Romney’s NIECE ? ?
That explains a lot. It always aggravated me to see her on TV and wonder how the GOP could put such an airhead in such a high position. It would be better not to have a chairman at all. She’s a DIRC. Democrat in Republican Clothes.
Trump likes her and endorsed her for that position even though she failed him bad in 2020 and isn’t helping him now.
A former Republican president is being brought up on multiple trumped-up charges, because he had the audacity to interfere with TPTB, and what is she doing to help him?
Not her job, but please send money, plastic surgery doesn’t come cheap, ya know.
Why the HELL does Trump support her?
Because he thinks she’s nice. He has a fatal flaw. He likes these people and wants them to like him too.
Trump likes her and endorsed her for that position even though she failed him bad in 2020 and isn’t helping him now.
DON THE DUMMY, DUMB DON. DUMB AND DUMBER DON.
Yeah, I did not realize that Rona McDaniel was nice to Mitt either. You said it, that explains a lot. Our US political environment is a cell pool of money-grubbing self-interests for the world’s elite. I thought we took care of the spoils system back at the turn of the 20th Century. I guess not.
People like Ronna think they are entitled to hold such positions due to their personal greatness.
The screen shot of Kristen Welker being tarred and feathered by Vivek was classic, it reminded me of some lyrics:
“the constant fear of violence, chokes a smile on every face”.
“the Road to Hell” by Chris Rea.
-Ms. Welker-, your turn at the lamppost awaits.
He is quite the speaker! Loved watching Nikki Haley squirm in a follow on video.
She was the SNL comedian? She was pretty good too. But if this is her, it’s even funnier. Looks like I’m going to watch our non-fair haired boy take on the ladies.
Chris Rea, a fav.
It’s not the fan fiction idea of America that’s Evil – it’s the complicit duplicity of the status quo American voter that is… And partisan political leanings don’t count for or excuse our current state of existence.
Rather, it’s the preponderance of evidence through time which draws us close to – yet never quite brings us to – objective truth. None of us are all seeing.
Any pinhead can cherry-pick and slant a favorable narrative to justify America’s historical rise one way or another – that’s merely an eons old, uniquely human trait that Ideological Cave Painters make manifest via their oral traditions and books. Come out of your cave, idiot!
And so, what use – really – is all that beloved tradition worth when none of it prevents history from echoing through the millennia? Not a darn thing.
Near as I can surmise at age 46, ‘meriguh has been totally brain dead since the assassinations of the Kennedy bros., MLK, and MX in the 60’s.
America was indeed becoming Great at the time. Working past all its colonial oppression and foreign conquistador sinister motives.
After that, the typical U.S. voter lost all capacity and intellectual integrity to sort through and retain the authentic courage and best collected wisdom of their founding and contemporary fathers.
Decade after decade since, your standard American voter turned a blind eye to the moral incongruities of their democratic leadership class, which transmogrified back into the Evil ruling class of medieval times.
All throughout the people have failed time and again to muster the courage to right the ship, to heed the warnings written within the 4th Estate (when it still existed) because it required a self-sacrifice you weren’t willing to grant your progeny.
And now here we all sit, comfortably listening to the band as the Titanic descends. Make peace with it, because it’s a well-deserved, Just fate, and you have none but the mirror to blame.
Wow, should I feel honored, having been singled out for such dismissive vitriol?
Guess I missed the point thinking JHK’s site welcoming (nay, encouraging) considerate discourse toward mutually broadening comprehension. Contrary, that is, to a feint, parry, and lunge arena.
But, as I alluded, low tolerance for ambiguity is cause for your splenetic outburst – a joisting resulting in winner/loser, pushing aside feasibility that issues addressed by JHK are complex, warranting more considered exchange than simple nose-thumbing at one another.
Pathologically, you frame any exchange as combat for assuaging your sense of inferiority.
Blabbity, blabbity, bloo-blah. You weren’t singled out, you were lumped in the middle where you belong. Stop flattering yourself.
Ah hah, the status denominators. Get help.
CouchPotatriot’s not referring to you, Cavepainter. He’s talking about other people he calls Ideological Cave Painters who are doing the cherrypicking etc. Read the paragraph again. To be grammatically correct, he should have said “idiots” instead of “idiot” and that would have made it clearer to you, I imagine.
CouchPotatriot, feel free to correct me if I’m wrong.
Pranah, my fire-end, you are not wrong. I am in fact speaking about the swath, yet – Turd Smearer – believes himself to be on the fringe of intellectshuellism – while in actuality he’s been unfortunately gathered to the middle of the toilet swirl of modern discourse.
He knows knot what he does. *chuckles
Ah, so. Butting out now!
…and you have none but the mirror to blame.
Oh, most of us have plenty to blame besides the mirror.
I see them all around me every day.
Unless you’re implying we should all be Snake Plissken and fix the whole thing ourselves (with a dystopian-synth early 1980’s John Carpenter musical score playing throughout).
No, Mr. Magoo – if any of you today were capable of acting like Kurt Russell or John Rambo – instead of pointlessly voting cycle after cycle – the American Revolutionary War mythology would be an accurate representation of how this country gained its Freedumb and Depends.
Lol. “if any of you…”.
Fun way to make an argument with someone you know nothing of.
I’d like to say a word or two in defense of the average voter who supposedly sat by while our country metamorphosed into something unspeakable.
Many of the births in our family, including mine, took place when the parents were nearly too old to produce a child. The result of that is that the family memories I received first hand as a child went back to the era of my grandmother’s father, the middle of the 19th century.
The great difference between us and them is one of assumptions. They assumed that, except for the occasional bad apple, everyone – including politicians – had America’s best interests at heart and simply had slightly different ideas as to how to go forward. They didn’t think anything ghastly would happen if their candidate didn’t win; it just wouldn’t be exactly as they’d hoped, but it wouldn’t be a tragedy either. They genuinely couldn’t conceive of such a thing as a globalist, a person with no ties of loyalty except to money.
What we see out in the open now, because it has advanced far enough to become brazen, was completely and purposefully hidden from them. I think that’s the way it always is, in that sociopaths seek out the positions of power and quietly undermine the structure of any entity, like termites in a house. Also like termites, it can go on for a long time, internally, before it becomes obvious and the house starts to visibly crumble. A point is reached where the sociopaths in power attain critical mass, after which they become visible as they are to us now, and correspondingly blatant.
It’s not quite fair to claim we should have known all along. Honest people (and I think most people are honest) assume others are as well. They don’t readily imagine the situation I’ve described, and fail to catch on even when the occasional miscreant goes too far and outs him/herself. They live in something akin to a state of grace or innocence, a condition that’s hardly possible now but was once the default state of most people in this country. Their failure was one of vigilance, but it arose from the fact that – for a while, and on the surface – our country was such a good place, for so many people.
“The great difference between us and them is one of assumptions. They assumed that, except for the occasional bad apple, everyone – including politicians – had America’s best interests at heart and simply had slightly different ideas as to how to go forward. They didn’t think anything ghastly would happen if their candidate didn’t win; it just wouldn’t be exactly as they’d hoped, but it wouldn’t be a tragedy either. They genuinely couldn’t conceive of such a thing as a globalist, a person with no ties of loyalty except to money.” Rowdy&Tame
Nice fantasy island rationalization and face-saving sentimentality there, bubbs.
Do you think the pilgrims and conquistadors who originally fled The Old World and settled this joint were as naive and dumb as your folks and subsequent generations of voters? The answer is yes and no. The point is… most never learn from history – and those who do conveniently forget when they’re cozy enough.
@Couchpotat, I wasn’t referring to the pilgrims, nor were my relatives dumb or naive. You know nothing about them, so I think that characterization is just one that it pleases you to imagine as set against your perception of your own sophistication as vast and all encompassing.
They were well read, well educated, and thoughtful people. They lived in a small town, high trust society; they forgot nothing that was within their experience. Their trust in the overall goodness of other people was rooted in personal experience, and none of them had personal experience at the high levels of government or corporations.
Expressions of contempt for people who led pretty blameless lives merely because they didn’t have what you imagine as your own vast and wide ranging view of history reveals the narrowness of your own vision – which apparently has no place in it for decent, ordinary people.
simple psychology:
People can only pass through these levels in the order listed. Each new stage replaces the reasoning typical of the earlier stage. Not everyone achieves all the stages.
Level Stage Definition Response to Heinz Dilemma
Preconventional 1. Avoiding Punishment Moral reasoning is based on direct consequences. Heinz should not steal the drug because stealing is illegal, and he could be punished.
2. Self-Interest Actions are seen in terms of rewards rather than moral value. Heinz should not steal the drug because stealing is illegal, and he could be punished.
Conventional 3. Good boy attitude Good behavior is about living up to social expectations and roles. Heinz should steal the drug because, as a good husband, he is expected to do whatever he can to save his wife.
4. Law & Order Morality Moral reasoning considers societal laws. Heinz should not steal the drug because he must uphold the law and maintain societal order.
Postconventional 5. Social Contract Rules are seen as social agreements that can be changed when necessary. Heinz should steal the drug because preserving human life is a more fundamental value than property rights.
6. Universal Principles Moral reasoning is based on universal ethical principles and justice. Heinz should consider non-violent civil disobedience or negotiation with the pharmacist. The decision reflects a conflict between property rights and the sanctity of human life.
Kohlberg’s moral stages
Jarek: Most will not reach the post-conventional stage. Moral development is cognate with IQ. Africa will remain in the pre-conventional and conventional stages.
The Puritan towns were very strong in conventional morality. Couch may not understand this. In Japan your wallet will lay on the street for weeks. It’s not theirs. No one will pick it up. Locks? Why? We are family!
But it ended at the town line. The Indians were the other. Couch understands this very well. Very few women do. The combination of attitudes, inherent in conventional morality, is what made of America.
Post-conventional morality is our undoing since it developed sans Wisdom. As if everyone was or could be post-conventional too. And with a bizarre hatred for the the morality and people who were the foundation of their own lives.
Hot topic: What should Heinz do?
Not that most women are at the post-conventional stage I hasten to add. Rather, they are just saying and “believing” what they are supposed to say and believe. Stages 3 and 4.
Rowdy: Read Ponerology. Sociopaths can recognize each other and form alliances. We had no idea about any of this. Christians did of course. Evil can be very intelligent and work together.
Five percent of the population are psychopaths. In a good society, they have to hide and can only do small works of evil. But as the goodness fades naturally or due to their efforts, they can increase the scope of their actions.
This is all different than the natural “evil” inherent in nature. Perhaps that is what Couch is referring to. As Heraclitus says, War is the King of all.
@Jarek, I’ve recently read ?obaczewski’s book and it’s still filtering through my consciousness. It’s impossible to read it without a sense of recognition – we’re seeing these things now because we’ve reached a point where the masks are coming off. They feel pretty sure they’ve won, so they don’t have the need to pretend any longer.
I do think that any entity, even a benign sewing circle or birdwatching group, is a target for sociopaths – in the case of lesser entities, the appeal is to sociopaths with fewer talents, who can’t hope to rise to CEO of a corporation or other position of real power. I’ve seen these manipulative, evil people at work in dull offices where there is little to be gained by their machinations – but it was all they were capable of. And yes – they’re absolutely able to cooperate with others of their kind.
I would still have trouble believing that such people really existed, but I had the misfortune quite a while ago of running into a little nest of them. Initially I didn’t understand what they were, but it became crystal clear fairly quickly. Not, however, before they had harvested me for every asset I possessed at the time – not a great deal, but all the more painful for that reason.
OH WELL SAID PIGLET!
If you are old enough, or well read, what is happening today seems incredible- Jim has pointed out the dumbing down of the population, and while ignorance is bliss, it can be fatal. Millions heard Trump swear he would balance the budget when he first ran- he hung the portrait of Andrew Jackson, a man who balanced 8 straight budgets and left the nation $0 in debt when he left, in the Oval Office, as if to establish his own street cred- and then went on to sign off on- not once veto- four consecutive TRILLION dollar deficits- and some people think he is a “conservative”?! His refusal to put his business interests in a blind trust was mistaken- it was well known, for example that foreign heads were paying top dollar to stay in his hotels- but admittedly that pales in contrast to the out and out graft associated with Biden and his son in Ukraine and elsewhere. However, Trump’s cabinet selections were a disaster- he did not have a kind word to say about any of them other than Giuliani in retrospect, and his lack of judgment, his unfailing bellicosity, his unseemly Twittering and shooting from the hip would have rendered him utterly beyond the pale in the era where modesty and fiscal responsibility were not uncommon. Recall that Nixon’s career was almost ended by the accusation that his campaign had received what today would be regarded as laughably small personal gifts- he responded he was “proud of the fact that Pat Nixon wears a good Republican cloth coat[not the mink she was accused of receiving], and she’s going to continue to.” Compare that to the millions shamefully received by the Bidens. This time, select a candidate who has an actual record of fiscal restraint, and good character.
Welcome home Jim. Yes, what a long strange trip it’s been.
All coming back full circle to the fundamental fact that current population levels cannot be maintained without 200m years of stored solar energy.
And that that incalculable precious resource contained only around 100 years of surplus before peak and decline.
But did the elite ever let on what they knew? Did the common man ever comprehend their entire “modern” life is nothing but a false construct? Why would they; when has any knowledge advantage ever been squandered?
And so we see the true machinations in play, grand masters engaged in the great game that is still only in the positional stages, setting the board up for the real, existential fight over scarce resources.
Once you’re able to see the world from this POV, everything makes perfect sense.
Welcome home? Better watch it, he’s never went anywhere. Sounds like you’re “sucking up” too.
Did the common man ever comprehend their entire “modern” life is nothing but a false construct?
Has your life been a false construct because of energy and resource management? Mine hasn’t. It’s just “been”. The car runs, the oven works, the fridge keeps things cold, books remain on my shelves unchanged by the Matrix or the The Strangers, the Grand Canyon is actually there. It’s been real…to me, at least. That’s the only perspective any of us can take, because we can know nothing else.
That said, of course the elite would want to round up what’s left for themselves. Who wouldn’t, if one could, for themselves and theirs?
There’s a tad bit of a numbers problem that they’re dealing with, though. Most of whom just want to put food on their family and prepare their kids to go out into the world. (or the ‘false construct’?)
Fossil fuel use breeds false constructs. For example, today when we want indoor climate control, we need do nothing more than walk over to the thermostat and turn on our central heat and air system. Most of us have no real world experiences in doing any of the actual work involved in something as ordinary and taken for granted as home heating. And home heating is just one of a myriad of other issues involving fossil fuel use.
The “real constructs” enter the scenery of your mind when you are out in an old beatup pickup truck looking for wood left on curbs after tree removals. Or better yet, you are in the woods looking for trees to cut for next season’s firewood. You spend part of the next day hearing chainsaw noise and smelling two stoke motor exhaust. The other part of the day is spent splitting, hauling, and stacking firewood. Along the way are physical hazards you must negotiate such as getting your hauling vehicle stuck or getting stung by hornets.
A few of those hazards, like felling the larger trees or cutting dead trees – can be fatal if you don’t know what your are doing. Chain saws each year are involved in many thousands of injuries and even a few deaths. In the pursuit of firewood you’ll encounter all the other hazards and discomforts associated with doing industrial type work in the forest. A life spent without fossil fuels doing *all* the work for you will be a life spent experiencing all the physically painful and tiring aspects of being alive. But those aspects will at least be very *real*.
It won’t be a virtual reality where everything hums and the indoor climate never changes. It will be a reality that’s like what you experience on a motorcycle – it won’t be the comfy experience you have riding around in a Lexus. It will be the reality of the road with the cold wind and rain burning your face. Sometimes it will be bugs splattering on your goggles. That wil be the only reality available for most of us during the long emergency. Our cars will be long gone and a small motorbike that gets around 180 mpg will be in our future. That’s how people in 3rd world nations get around.
A great example of a false construct is the nearly completed 405 expansion project that’s been underway for a few years.
I think it’s 8 lanes on each side, including 2 dedicated as virtual, internal toll roads.
This grand monument to our glorious past is no different than carrier battles groups and other make work programs funded by freshly digitized dollars.
It’s really an incredible, wonderful thing if you just take a moment to contemplate how absurd it all is, and are of course a beneficiary of the magic act.
I’ve mentioned many times that I’m exhibit A as someone who’s led a charmed life, someone who’s never voted and never fell into the Bernays consumer trap.
I’ve always played the other side, essentially ‘winning’, but I reveal myself as a non psychopath who can’t but help at least drop a few hints.
It’s too no avail of course, as everyone here has recounted the same tales of how normal, average people react to truth.
So, party on Garth …
My point wasn’t “fuck it, I’m gonna drive on”.
My point was the use of the phrase false construct.
It exists, therefore it is not false.
Flawed construct…now we’re having a different conversation.
The only population in the world that grows are the poor, uneducated and repressed.
Some religious outliers exist, but are statistically moot.
No wonder Ron DeSantis looks so uncomfortable on stage. The Republicans seem to have an agreement not to mention anything having to do with covid, and of course the media figures moderating aren’t going to bring it up.
Covid and his fight to restore public education in his states are his two big strengths, so why is he even there?
The funny thing is that Hillary Clinton isn’t wrong, she’s just Hillary Clinton.
300 Million stupid useless fools cannot see the obvious we have been betrayed
So much for your informed electorate, your constitution, your rule of Law
Your entier government, Top to bottom is utterly corrupt
Your retirement Fund is in a currency that is u inherently worthless
You can wipe your àss with düe process, the presumption of innocence and all the other nonsense fools believe in
when the currency fails, 100,000,000 simpletons will die of starvation, violence, and infectious diseases
Nothing can preveñt this now
So die your hair purple, put a bone through your nose and talk about your Gay affairs
Make some popcorn and Get ready
The criminally insane are àre. in control
Where is Antonine Scalia when you need him?
HEIL HILLARY!
i.am.no.one is correct in his/her above statement.
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The good thing about suburbia is that there should still be plenty of backyards and open space that can be used for personal gardens and livestock raising.
Try feeding that garden with chlorinated metropolitan water. Try affording animal feed during peak collapse. You’d be better off experimenting with recipes for cooking your neighbors while the gettin’ is still good. I know, I know – too soon.
As long as the city water is running, its fine to water crops, at least in my area. There are many hollers and cricks in my area that haven’t been used for anything. They would make fine water sources. Of course, a rain barrel is pretty useful in most areas.
God bless ya, RD3. Perhaps it’s something else in my neck of the woods that makes gardening difficult. Several years ago I had a small 9 raised bed garden on my property. The first 2 years were beautifully productive. After that the insects, the change in water quality, and the oppressive heat kicked my butt. Southern Colo is pretty much a desert.
However, I’ve got a recipe for barbecued senior citizen next door that’s to die for. I replaced the garden with an Alpo pit for useless other neighbors, too. I love my dogs. I’m sort of kidding.
God help the Donner party if they accidentally steer your direction. My aunt and uncle used to live in Lake City. I guess that’s more central Colorado. Absolutely beautiful.
Colorado is every where stunning. I moved to Illinois briefly in 2021, Peoria and Chicago. Flat and tree green in the spring and summer, flat and grey every time else. Gross. I’ll never leave Colo again.
It was 45 minutes off-road 4×4 to their cabin. Right on a trout stream in the mountains. I wish it was still in the family.
Wow, that’s sounds like a neatly tucked away dream. I’m 20 minutes from the wet mountain range, where my family too have a couple cabins. Lots of little dreamscapes around me. Up north mountain range is too rocky and barren-feeling for my taste, yet still very pertifull.
Though my SoCo desert home is rather dry, I live right next to a gorgeous reservoir with spectacular mountain ranges in the backdrop. In illinois, I could never tell where the hell I was when driving, and the swaths of trees and cornfields were just dank, musky spider havens.
Here, I am able to walk my pups aside the giant lake daily, though I gotta watch out for the snakies in the summertime.
You must be a southerner, RD3. I imagine it to be quite fertile and gorgeous pretty much everywhere one can go as well. Hope you’re able to retire and enjoy it soon.
Ouch, Couch.
As a former long term Coloradoan, 40 years in all starting at age 15, living in Littleton, Ft. Collins, Colorado Springs and Highlands Ranch, I would’ve agreed with you n my younger years.
And when Colorado was a Western state before it was Californicated.
Your description puts you near Pueblo, maybe the Lake. We have family history in Canon City.
We moved toPhoenix 19 years ago,
Too long winters, too cold year around, to violent weather year around
And really crappy, minority led Liberal politics.
The most beautiful state in the USA, at least half of it. Too bad it is being ruined by immigrants turning into homeless being supported by a LBTGQ+ governor.
I will never return.
Also, Couch, what happened to the Deion Sanders nepotism miracle?
CouchPotatriot,
Thank you for the kind words. I fashion myself a Copperhead. I’m from Appalachia, but just a bit north of the Mason/Dixon. I studied quite a bit of history, formally and informally, and have come to my conclusions based on this.
I had a large garden for many years, then I had a large family which has trampled my large garden. I scaled way back, but I’ve been saving seeds to plant on the (now) football/baseball field once the brood is out of the house….
My uncle’s location was amazing. As I mentioned, he had a stream out his back door. A novice could catch dinner almost any day. There was a large lake a few miles away that could provide a freezer full freezer full of fish if you were willing to fish a couple hours per week. Not to mention the deer/beavers, etc. you could take nearly any time… I miss my uncle. He lived to 84 and managed to have grapes, olives, figs, etc., even in that dry clime.
Yeah, I plan on harvesting the thyroids of other mammals–any mammals i can find–after there’s no more pharmaceutical-grade thyroid hormone to be obtained. I’ve thought about it a long time now and I think I’ll be able to do it. If not, it’ll be lights out from Hashimoto’s, and drawn out and unpleasant to boot.
Not that I expect anyone around here to care, like at all, but I spoke in error in a recent comment here in which I said that Cornel West was running as a Green Party candidate. He was, but he isn’t any longer, as he’s an even longer-shot independent candidate now. I guess Jill Stein, as of this week, is taking another crack at being the Green Party’s presidential nominee after Howie Hawkins somehow managed to make that party even more irrelevant than it already was.
Hey, if Biden is not too old to run as a Dem, then Nader should give it another run as a Green! lol
Oddly enough, it would appear that Hawkins’s 2020 presidential campaign website is still up.
The final chapter of the 2020 election will climax between now and March 4, 2024.
Why March 4?
Betty White’s birthday.
Is that old bird still kicking?
I believe she finally stopped.
Did you find a nice hat to eat? We want footage.
Nothing of substance can be accomplished until the surveillance state is smashed. Until then, we are all lab rats in an experiment.
Fight and resist all efforts to have them institute a digital ID against us and implement digital currency. I refuse to fly because of all their facial recognition and pre-check application requirements. I don’t want them tracking me at all.
We need to start smashing those cameras that are showing up all over the place that record your license plate to a database. Taking out the solar panel and camera with a steel pry bar should work just fine.
No one at the Republican debate mentioned that, did they?
Thomas Massie couldn’t even get all the Republicans to help him stop a kill switch on all new vehicles.
About 20 years ago, there was a patriotic American who was shooting out the red light and speed cameras all over east Tennessee.
Whatta guy!
I don’t think he was ever caught, as far as I recall.
Good for this guy, he should serve as a role model to us all.
Beryl is a statist. Just be nice and it will all work out.
But in fact, War is the King of All.
cowbell81,
People have been smashing cameras in some places recently — can’t remember the country, maybe England, which is pretty far down the road of being a total-surveillance state.
Europe is speeding like a bullet train toward intertwined CBDCs and Digital ID… which means The End of anything resembling normal human life.
vigilantnews.com/post/european-politician-breaks-very-bad-news-about-digital-ids-and-central-bank-digital-currencies
The U.S. can’t be far behind.
Destroying all the earthly infrastructure is easy enough if there were a concerted effort. What to do about the satellites is the next question.
“People have been smashing cameras in some places recently — can’t remember the country, maybe England […]”
Yep, primarily the ‘Bladerunners’ in London, protesting against the ULEZ (ultra-low emission zone) cameras. About the only good news there’s been over here for a while.
Why Jarek? Why do you do this? Why?
Where are you on “jooperstition” now? You realize how ridiculous all that was, right?
Yes.
Again I’ll say ;
” Get tough on crime ” was not aimed at them.
It was aimed at you.
And while smoking , drinking , and whoring may be immoral , or ammoral , or simply degenerate ,
there was no moral crusade behind Prohibition – renamed – the War on drugs.
You may be a scumbag ,
or maybe it is just your neighbor . * Wink *
But pull your head out of your kudo.
Since when have these Julius Ceasar – types had consciences?
Yeah, and meanwhile more and more states are legalizing possession of cannabis. But heaven forbid if we smoke a menthol cigarette. Thankfully the feds are doing their due diligence to outlaw these and push them into black market territory.
Menthol cigarettes are rayciss. The government has to protect the black people from purchasing the product they prefer.
” The government has to protect the black people from purchasing the product they prefer.”
Beryl,
…Cool….
Weed makes you easier to deal with easier to fool.
The other just gives you cancer.
Not sure why they target menthol specifically though.
Possibly because that is what kids start with?
I remember the shakeys down the street with the cigarette machine in the little lobby put a dollar in pull the lever and run off with the pack of kools.
Menthol is preferred by black people.
AFAIK, black women in particular.
It is rayciss to target a brand to the demographic that buys it.
When I started, I used to sneak them from my mom, who smoked Pall Malls (anyone remember those?), and thereafter, I smoked anything I could get my hands on (didn’t care for Winstons). I settled on Salems because I liked the menthol, but when I went to basic training in South Carolina the PX there didn’t carry them, and I didn’t want to switch to Kools because I’d heard they used fiberglass in the filters, so I went to nonmenthol and smoked Viceroys until I got back home, where I switched to Merits.
I remember Pall Malls. My mother smoked those.
Once she put a pack of them in my lunch instead of a box of raisins.
Doctors used to prescribe one brand over another.
Those were the days!
Nicotine raises testosterone levels. They can’t have that. Hence the war on cigarettes and the promotion of pot and other such drugs.
Also, tobacco made the South rich, and there is nothing more hated by elites than the American South. They’ve been trying to stamp out its existence and memory for three centuries and they still can’t. That alone tells you that it is worth preserving.
Not that I am some sort of agriculture expert ,
but I am something of a half – assed history buff.
And superficially at least it seems to me the biggest bang – for – buck cash crops have always been ……….guess.
In the South , or in ye merry old Christian fanatic feudal Europe. In that case ; Anything you could ferment , and or make into alcohol.
Yes, Jamestown was full of seedy adventurer types looking for a quick buck. That came in handy since such types are often good fighters.
But a few sounder minds noticed how good the land was once you got away from the salt marshes. And when they learned about Indian tobaccy, it was a match made in Kesa Heaven.
Altho King James died not like tobacco, the cash crop the Virginia Company settled upon when they learned tropical fruits would not grow in Virginia. Tobacco brought in cash to the Royal treasury, so tobacco it was.
BRH
Matt Bracken is like DeGrelle: the ultimate patriot and warrior. When Alex Jones has him on, Jones gets incredibly unbalanced, asking questions and then not letting him answer. Jones is from a military family and feels inferior when in the presence of Bracken. No need in my opinion: Jones served America in another way.
Anyway, if you find yourself on a different side than someone like Bracken, you know you are on the wrong side. You are now on the wrong side.
Nicotine has a greater affinity for the so named nicotinic acetylcholine receptor than Contrived Pandemicide Protocols.
Consider the Molecule of Life which has a much greater affinity to metabolization by photosynthesis than being force produced and faux-terminally buried in the sand.
Thus tobacco, the primary source of nicotine, as a plant, is no longer a prioritized lifeform as it requires both sun and seeohtoo to protect you from Social Disease.
I don’t know how this is going to go down with the brothers. You know they like Kools. This move might cost the democrats some votes.
I tried Newports .
Meh!
Actually smoked Saratoga’s for awhile because they looked so pretty .
and a certain very indirect imagery for a certain occupation.
And then , just , fuck that shit .
What’s the cheapest shit you got ?
I wish I COULD FIND Saratoga’s now.
They were very pretty.
Joe Camel was the highest manifestation of American genius. Why not a religion that honors him?
Next thing you know they’ll be banning 40 oz. Malt Liquor. Then the sh#t will really hit the fan.
Did you ever hear Norm MacDonald’s bit about Joe Camel?
As long as they don’t ban Popeye’s, I think we’ll be ok.
No. Tell me.
” Why would they; when has any knowledge advantage ever been squandered? ”
Every day for 40 years through my eyes.
As I have said before ( very very briefly and generally ) the big difference between North Koreans ( or East Germans for that matter ) and Americans is that you actually believe your own propaganda , even now.
Long story , but it seemed to me in 1978 , or 1988 , that there were many albeit modest and little , things the average Joe could have done to greatly alleviate their lot ,
with or without the vampire gods of Washington , in those days.
But the average Joe’s collectively , silently voted to loiter in Disneyland a bit more.
Maybe I’m full of shit , but my suspicion is that the average Joe could see that the automobile culture needed at least some degree of dialing back then .
I could see it.
And by the way , I never heard of James Howard Kunstler until about five years ago.
And no , I’m not implying I was a fucking genius with the Mount Olympus view.
I don’t know if he ever actually said it in real life ,
but in the 1970’s movie ” Patton ” , General Patton says ,
” Americans love a winner , and will not tolerate a loser . ”
Lol , indeed.
Dialing back the automobile culture even incrementally was out of the question.
keeping up with the Jones’s was the important thing ,
not doing something real.
Of course , it wasn’t quite as simple as that .
Dirt floors and outhouses ?
Gosh , the “normies” might take your kids away for “abuse ” !
In the totalitarian state you supposedly don’t have.
@KesaAnna Dialing it back? Are you kidding me? It was the OPPOSITE! Because in their world, growth is infinite–no limits or boundaries.
So, like you, I’m not saying I’m a genius either.
But having spent my childhood “overseas” as an US military dependent in the 1970s, mostly in Greece, and coming to the US at age 12, I discovered firsthand that in suburban NYC, without a car, you could not go anywhere. Where we lived there were no sidewalks. You walked in the street, and in the winter you shared the road with the snow and the snow plows…. The nearest stores were a mile away–on foot, taking “short cuts”. A lot of stuff was within 2.5 miles–but that’s not walkable. Less so when much of your walk is in the street or on a highway shoulder. In Greece in the 70s, many had cars, but most did not, including our relatively affluent neighbors, with their nice house. One did not need a car there. Of course, an urban/”suburban” did not have a detached house with a lawn and yard either. Small house, small yard to sit outside, and most lived in apartments. That’s what I’ve seen in my (limited) travels in Europe, the “rich” north, as well as the Spain/Italy/Greece.
So, in the late 1980s thru the 1990s, when housing got too expensive in metro NYC, people moved to…Bethlehem PA. Then it took 2 hours for bus to get to Manhattan (the LI RR took 1:45, plus a 5-10 minute drive or 45 minute walk to station). Places that were FARMS, that were productive land, became subdivisions. Subs with BIG houses, much bigger than the 1950/60s suburbia I spent my teen years in during the 70s/80s. Bigger than even the “richer” kids had on LI…
Today ABE (Allentown/Bethelehem/Easton) is one big sprawling exurb, not three medium/small/smaller cities. The population is up maybe 20%? But the developed land is probably DOUBLE.
And I thought, what waste.
And then I read JHK’s “Long Emergency” in 2006, great book, and it basically articulated, in an organized manner, my experience in the US, summed up as
“…suburbia, the greatest misallocation of resources”. Or maybe that came from the “Geography of Nowhere”.
In any case, these exurbs need cars. Cars need available and affordable fuel.
When some one says, “new homes are very efficient”, I’m sure they are. When they are 2,500 to 3,000 square feet, I’m sure they need more energy to heat and cool than my “old” 1950s 1200 SF. And that space has to be filled with bigger TVs and appliances, which may be more efficient than my old stuff, cumulatively use more electricity.
So, in short, here in the US, we have signed up to a way of life that is even more vulnerable that it was.
Now, apparently some of the PTB may have read JHK’s books, or they may have independently determined, we need more “dense housing”.
So here in suburban Detroit, they are pushing for condos/apartments in older suburbs, which aren’t too sprawled and actually have sidewalks. I’m lucky. I can “usefully” walk to get groceries, for example. Or cleaners, or library. They are 8 to 15 minutes one way. And I do walk unless it’s raining (short trips are also very hard on your ICE car). But the locations of these new condos/apartments ensure that you NEED a car. They cost less than NEW detached homes (which are BIG–think teardown a 1200 SF place and put 2500 SF on the same small lot), but the new condos/apartments are still expensive (IMO). Being 1.5 to 2 miles away from stuff may be “not far”, but you try walking 30 minutes or more each way. So you need a car. But you’ll drive less.
While I always disliked suburban sprawl, I like having my car. I like having two. I like being able to drive to Pittsburgh or Dayton or Petoskey. Or to go shopping somewhere, though many stores, like Sears, have closed. Or to drive to eat out. Having lived in Greece, while I can survive without a car, even in Greece, the parking nightmare, a car is a huge convenience.
And make no mistake, cars and MOBILITY are the REAL target of this new push for ‘dense housing’. It’s accompanied by “road diets”. They are taking important traffic arteries, and changing them from 4 lanes, two each way, to 2 lanes, one each way, to slow down cars and make distances onerous. They have also literally f–ed up the exits on I-75 locally, both 12 and 14 Mile Roads. Really stupid stuff that cost MILLIONS.
Slowing down cars also helps electric vehicles (EVs), which are handicapped compared to internal combustion engine (ICE) cars. EV range is directly related to speed.
The game plan is to force EVs on the US, and then ditch private cars altogether for AVs (autonomous). Think Uber or Lyft. And if you don’t pay your bills, or if you visit CFN, or you’ve used your 300 mile quota for the month, or if, God forbid, you don’t support Zionism, you’ll find that when you summon Uber, it will say “system not available, try again later”.
Total control. Having lured Americans into buying and spending more money on more house than they need, they will now reel middle America and control it by controlling its mobility.
Like a dope dealer—early on drugs are cheap and easy, but once you’re hooked, they cost more. Even our cars wasteful and overly large. And we will NEED cars. We could have had smaller, truly fuel efficient cars, which would prolong our resources. Like more modest homes. Like not building homes in flood plains–or in deserts, which require massive CAPITAL expenditures for drainage or water supply. Real resources wasted.
A generation ago, instead of trying to prevent sprawl, public policy was to assist capital (FIRE– FINANCE, Insurance, REAL ESTATE) to maximize its profits with public subsidies (tax breaks, roads in the boonies) to entice people to buy houses. Financially, it culminated in the 2008 crisis. But the people at the top made hundred of millions. Angelo Mozillo. Lloyd Blankfein “The Big Short” is a nice Hollywoodized story about it.
Just some more clouds–on top of COVID (increased mortality and myocarditis and ‘strange’ cancers), indebtedness, and a deteriorating world situation. On the other hand, if one is not too invested in THIS world, one needn’t worry about these things 🙂
“Bigger TVs and appliances, which may be more efficient than my old stuff, cumulatively use more electricity.”
Yet they regulate the lightbulb, the dishwasher, but leave the large TV alone.
Because it is “efficient”.
How about because it is a mode of spying, the conveyance of propaganda, and selling you stuff?
Very well written! Only a few comments right now…..
You write ” And we will NEED cars.” Yes indeed. And there are also people in hell needing ice water. Once we’ve tasted the fossil fuel lifestyle what we formerly regarded as luxuries or special treats becomes an absolute need. A minor example, I’ve known and encountered people who get very uneasy or even panic if they get in situations where they don’t have access to fully equipped bathrooms with both hot and cold water. Make them go a week without bathing or endure a cold bath in a river or stream and you’ll see the same sort of panic reaction they’ll have if required for the very first time to shit in the woods as all woodsmen and woodswomen can do. There are people of all ages who actually are unable to shit outside, have never done it, and will respond with consternation and anxiety if required to.
Many of us assume that modern day bathrooms are an absolute requirement for life and a non-negotiable issue. And many other people assume that automobiles and access to gasoline is an absolute and non-negotiable issue – that it is a basic human right and responsibility to drive. It never occurs to them that what they they think they must have might ever become unavailable and at some point – forgotten. At some point humanity might be forced to confront the concept that the last 70 years or so of history has been not only a huge waste of time but also a huge waste of natural resources that will be needed by future generations. But we don’t care about them do we?
‘On the other hand, if one is not too invested in THIS world, one needn’t worry about these things’ ?
My point in my first post today. That is, ‘Live Free or Die’. Too invested, too attached, too much believing that this Big Classroom is all there is.
Well, it ain’t. Actually it’s the worst place you can imagine in comparison to the Life Between Lives place. Now that’s really nice!
“Every day in suburbia will be Halloween and not in a fun way.”
He’s back in form.
Here’s something I know that people around here will find interesting. Chris Martenson recently did a subscriber-only video on his website where he says he discovered that five out of every six stocks sold in the stock market are not actually owned by the people who believe they have bought them. Final, actual ownership of this vast majority of stocks belongs to one massive holding company who, in the event of a stock market crash, could and probably would make good on their primary claim, leaving the investors who thought they were the ones who owned their particular stocks pretty much holding the bag.
This has apparently been the case since 1994 at the latest. (Not surprised that this arrangement was apparently enacted during the Slick Willie years.)
That is interesting.
Preferred and common shareholders are always paid last. In the case of a real crash, I imagine there would not be anything at all for shareholders anyway.
Yes, indeed.
Something else from the debate, Vivek mentioned Nikki Haley’s daughter, and it is being framed as his attack Nikki’s child.
Nikki’s daughter is a grown woman. Nikki had attacked Vivek over his being on Tik Tok, and Vivek pointed out that Nikki has a daughter who has been on Tik Tok longer than Vivek has.
I was starting to explain the incident to a younger person (under 50 younger) and she interrupted to say that Vivek would be stupid NOT to be on Tik Tok. She’s right.
Two Punjabis yelling at each other. I’m glad my grandfather died before he had to witness that.
Somebody told me that Nikki’s remarks to Vivek were signaling that he is of a lower caste than she.
I don’t know too much about the caste stuff.
The only thing I know about it is that is doesn’t belong here.
Well said. We’re into race not caste. Class was our undoing even when we had our heads on straight about race.
“I see dead people.” “They’re walking around like regular people. They don’t see each other. They only see what they want to see.”
We are now a zombie nation. But like Malcolm Crowe in The Sixth Sense, we don’t know we’re dead because we don’t WANT to know. It’s too painful to face the truth even though there are signs all around us. So we plod along, trying our best to look past the evidence of our own death.
The 2024 election (“if it happens at all”) won’t be “the last one that follows the traditional format that has signified stability in our country’s high tide as a great power” because that already happened in 2016. I’m reasonably sure that 2016 was also rigged but the Dems misjudged Trump and lost in a river of tears.
So… they pulled out all the stops in 2020. We were treated to co-ordinated pauses in the vote counts, fraudulent dismissal of poll watchers, taping of cardboard over the windows in Detroit and Ruby Freeman quite visibly running the same batch of ballots through the tabulator THREE TIMES.
It was so critical for the Deep State to “win” in 2020 that they dropped the “nuclear option” – a freeze dried “virus” already sitting on a shelf – just add water, microwave for two minutes and turn the election process on its head. Or maybe you think it was “just a coincidence”.
Our once touted jurisprudence is in shambles, now resembling that in Germany of the ’30s and ’40s or Stalinist Russia. The absurd charges and show trial of Michael Flynn, FISA courts who would approve ANYTHING and didn’t even raise a whimper when shown that Kevin Clinesmith FORGED a critical supporting document. The J6 Gulags, Douglass Mackey, and… la pièce de résistance, 91 “felony” indictments against Donald Trump. Absurd? Yes, but then the power of The State lies in the absurdity of the charges.
I guess JHK can be forgiven for not knowing that we’re dead. It hurts too much to realize that the risks and sacrifice shouldered by our loved ones (my dad on the USS Texas in the North Atlantic, my uncle on an LCA at “bloody” Tarawa and Okinawa, my other uncle’s 10 day “vacation” on Saipan) has been squandered. It’s just too painful.
As a nation of truth and justice we are dead. We don’t know it because we “only see what we want to see”. When Malcolm Crowe finally realized he was a ghost, he whispered words of comfort to his sleeping wife, releasing both her and himself from their torment. But that was just a movie. We won’t be so lucky.
When we realize that the CIA assassinated a SITTING U.S. PRESIDENT six decades ago…
nothing else should really surprise us.
Bingo!
Yeah people keep forgetting or never knew in the first place. How many current American citizens were born after 11-22-1963?
There are about 36 million Americans born before 11-22-63, or about 10% of the population.
The rest were born after.
Remember that when they tell you we need more immigrants to pay for Social Security.
@PaulaD
The US census estimated 71 million Americans over the age of 60.
Out of 325 million, that’s about 22%. Unless half of them were born OUTSIDE the US, and that’s what you meant.
data.census.gov/table
“It was so critical for the Deep State to “win” in 2020 that they dropped the “nuclear option” – a freeze dried “virus” already sitting on a shelf – just add water, microwave for two minutes and turn the election process on its head. Or maybe you think it was “just a coincidence”. -BuckWild
Heck-to-the-yeah! From March 2020 till this day, I always suspected that The Bug was a CIA/Deep State BLOWBACK fiasco. They didn’t necessarily intend for it to crush the U.S. the way it did, but, OOPSIES!
My tin foil hat wearing self believes that The Bug was intentionally released to mainly afflict the Chinese population and crush their surging economic dominance over the West, but their slick selves simply said, “open borders, biaatches!” fly away home little critters.
I believe China – not Russia/Ukraine – was the original target. Trumpty Dumpty’s rhetoric against China/Iran at the time lets you know what/who the Deep State truly targeted then. Trump played a genius game of telling The Sheeple what they wanted to hear while still doing exactly what Deep Staters told him to do. Evidence: his entire effing cabinet.
Not that Trump was ever the mastermind behind it all – he’s only ever been a willing Patsy who never expected to be in the position he found himself in.
Anyhow, the virus was, as you say, leveraged to put “Joe Biden” in the place holder spot, then the deep state rolled the dice and decided to try and knock Russia out of the World Power trifecta.
Again – we’re witnessing the BLOWBACK of yet another failed, moronic Deep State plan to preserve U.S. hegemony.
Enter Israhell/Iran roll of the dice number three – nuclear option forthcoming.
Can I prove any of my bs? Hell-to-the-no.
Trump took his case to the Supreme Court – but he didn’t have “standing”.
None of the judges he appointed stood for him. Only Thomas and Alito, one of whom said, This may be the end of the republic.
Let the dead bury their own.
I don’t comment much. I’m an “observer” of a lot of blogs; posts etc. I wonder if anyone is aware of Sabrina Wallace. She is pounding out information that is not being talked about. She is a former network engineer that helped “build” the wireless. She’s genius level and many call her “crazy”…she’s not. The information is about the IOT and IOB and how long it has been going on to connect and control humans via satellites; graphene in our bodies etc. It involves sound and light waves. I can’t describe the concepts but I do understand. It is a long range plan to hybidize humans and it’s something most don’t understand (including me…I’m working on it)….She is on Odyssey as @Psinergy. Her bloodlines are all part of the evil and she has been subjected to experimentation and augmentation since birth. She says “God saved her”. I believe her.
I also follow @I_am_John_Cullen on X. He blows apart the covid lies with maps/charts and information from the CDC et al. He says CV-19 was a cover-up for what really killed people (the resurrected 1918 Spanish Flu by Fauci and Friends in late 90’s – 2005). It was “accidently” released and Fauci had to “cover it up” with something that was similar….the Wuhan covid that was engineered in a lab. That is why it appeared that the “flu” seemed to disappear in Jan-April 2020; the PCR did not test for this H1NI and people died of influenza/bacterial pneumonia as a result. All part of the globalists plans for us humans.
Yes, the deeper mysteries of the Vax. Is there a type that doesn’t kill, but rather “just” releases nano-bots? For what reason? An experiment? Or do they have at least a rough idea of where they’re going?
I for one am surprised that we haven’t seen a dearth of Palestinian flags flying from homes, government, and businesses since the attacks began. Maybe people just don’t understand the complex disputes between the Israelis and Palestine? Or maybe they just don’t care much for the awful clash of the black, green, and red on their flag? The blue and gold of the Ukraine was so much more visually pleasant, no?
Ukrainian flags have pretty much disappeared around here. That was yesterday’s cause.
Some assjack down the street, who is always promoting the latest thing, has switched out his Ukranian lag for an Israeli flag. I’m sure he was masking, vaxxxxxxxing and distancing before his seamless transition into Ukraine devotion.
“flag”
If you know that you will not act, fly a flag.
The first act is demonstration.
The final act is submission.
Then upon the penultimate curtain call the audience realizes their uncredited role in the theatrical production, pay their SAG dues and click right through the EULA.
John Cullen also points out the purpose for all the field hospitals that were put up throughout the United States in April 2020 and taken down after 10 days. The national emergency wasn’t CV-19; it was because there was a conglomerate of asteroids heading towards earth. Only 1 hit earth. There is an impact crater in Akure, Nigeria, which happened on March 28, 2020. MSM did not report on it. It was kept hushed up before (to prevent mass panic) and after. Apparently all planes were also grounded during the same time.
The above information I shared often gives me the ill feeling about the future of mankind; that the only thing that will stop the evil is an Apocalypse; either self-imposed by Man or by God. It seems that “time” has definitely sped up. Our awakening is also our demise.
Yes, time has sped up. At least 1/3 of us will die in natural and unnatural disasters. But there is a way through if we can get right with God. A remnant will survive.
On three occassions per month my parrish prays the Rosary. I like praying the Rosary in a group.
As far back as I can remember , 4 , 5 ?
I just assumed praying and thinking were one and the same thing .
God can read your mind was my assumption.
So I pray inside my head.
To get to the point ;
I pray people into Purgatory / out of Purgatory 30 to 80 times a day.
My interpretation of the Bible of course , but it seems to me that no one who ever came to Christ with a sincere desire to help another ,
no matter how horrific a character they might be ,
was turned away.
My very favorite part of the Bible ;
Mathew 15 : 22 – 15 : 28
🙂
@ KesaAnna:
The rosary is the best of all meditations/devotions. I try to pray it every day. Sometimes a miss a day, or even more than one day. I also try to pray the Angelus (6:00 am, noon, and 6:00 pm). I have the alarm set on my phone for those times. Sometimes I have to wait to say it, as the phone alarm goes off when I’m exiting the freeway at night in heavy traffic, or I’m on the phone or something.
The Angelus is a beautiful thing. There is a painting called “The Angelus,” by Jean-François Millet, that was in a neighbor’s home when I was growing up, and I was very taken by it as a kid and always wondered about it. I didn’t know the painting was called The Angelus, or even what the Angelus was, as I was not Catholic at the time–and I grew up in a little town where there were no Catholics. I thought that Catholics all lived in France. I also thought that the Jews were extinct, due to the Holocaust.
Anyway, a few years ago, I noticed that there was a reproduction of The Angelus on the cover of one of my son-in-law’s piano books. Having always been curious about it, I looked it up online. I told my daughter I had always admired this painting, and she got me a framed print of it for Mother’s Day. When they moved into their new house, she said she wanted the painting for a holiday gift, so I got her one to hang over the piano.
I learned from Facebook friends that The Angelus painting formerly graced the walls of every farmhouse. This was probably before they found out that The Angelus is a Catholic prayer, as they were pretty solidly Baptist in this part of the country, in former times.
In my old city neighborhood, during my single days, the local church always rang the Angelus bells. I didn’t even know they were the Angelus bells, at the time. I guess I thought they were just randomly ringing the bells.
My current project is to try to memorize the Salve Regina in Latin–not easy in ones old age!
@ KesaAnna:
Many years ago–back in the 80s–there was a woman living in the Northeast area of Kansas City who had visions of the BVM. I went to a couple of her prayer meetings (rosary recitations) with the kids, who were all very young at the time. Each of the girls had a rosary. While we were praying, one of my daughters’ rosary broke.
As you probaby know, repairing a rosary takes a good light, a pair of needle-nosed pliers, and a little time.
Meanwhile, the “visionary” lady who was leading the prayers fell down on the floor in a kind of ecstasy. Several of the other ladies gathered around her, and they said she was asking everyone to hand her their rosaries. There were maybe ten or twenlve people there, and we all passed our rosaries to the ladies who were looking after the visionary lady, who then took all ten or twelve of them in her hands and held them while she was lying on the floor.
After a few minutes, our rosaries were handed back to us, and my daughter’s rosary was no longer broken.
“Apocalypse” also means “uncovering” or the revealing of hidden things. At the “end of time” maybe all the hidden evil beings that surround and influence humanity suddenly become known and visible. That may be an extremely traumatic experience for everyone to find out that life and reality was never what we thought it was – that we’ve been fooled and manipulated not just for centuries but for millenia by formerly hidden entities most all of us have been unaware of.
A BRICS country, like China, has USD 40Trillion in savings deposits.
No shortage of wealth in Russia, Saudi Arabia or the UAE either.
Then there is the industrial and military might.
Who or what will stop BRICS to continue growing and developing?
World War III
That would stop anything. Ready to Party, Party?
“Turn out the lights. The party’s over.”
“Two Thousand
Zero zero
Party over
Ooops! Out of time
So tonight I’m gonna party
Like it’s Nineteen Ninety-nine”
***
The party was fun while it lasted. Decadence without consequence.
But now it’s time to pay the piper.
He who pays the piper calls the tune. And he who can create money out of nothing has the most pipers playing his song.
I listened to that over a loudspeaker in Savannah , Georgia
New Years , 1999 – 2000
By the way , the one place I know that is very much , ” Gone with the Wind ” – like is Savannah , Georgia.
There is New Orleans ….. but that is a very big town.
Unless you like the warm weather though ,
go in winter to both places .
The heat is fucking brutal otherwise.
And I don’t think I can exaggerate that you could float a plate on the humidity.
It been time for a long while now.
Peak oil.
“We replaced that with a financial matrix of banking fakery”-JHK
That might explain the company ‘We Work’ which just filed for bankruptcy, but not long ago had a valuation of $34 billion. Also Sam Bankman Freid’s company FTX, which was valued at $47 billion at one time. (Also bankrupt) Where was the value in these companies? ‘We Work’ rented out office space. I’m not even sure what FTX did. Traded bitcoin? Where do these huge numbers come from? I think “financial matrix of banking fakery” might explain it.
You’re bang on, Heckler. And you cited my favourite JHK line from today’s essay.
The fellow who started WW is a billionaire. cashed out.
Can you imagine the look on Hillary Clinton’s face on November 5th when she realizes that Trump has been elected president once again, against all odds?
She and her cronies need to be put in their place. This is the only way to do it. MAGAA 2024!!!
Just an hour ago I was Googling early 1970’s fashion , and ran across a picture of her from waaaay back.
Vaser ? Or whatever country club that silver spoon Sonnenfrau Hexen came out of.
Today she really does look like Elizabeth Bathory resurrected,
and I don’t mean because she’s old and sagging.
Am I imagining things , or can you see the evil in her face ?
Anyway ,
CGI this girl would like to see ;
Hillary when she looked human ,
does the entire trailer park .
I would go – fund – me that.
Am I evil ?
I think maybe I’m reading too much Syrian Girl.
Seriously though ,
while granted I always thought voting was fixed ,
anyway , my two cents is the only mildly productive vote at this point is a purely and solely ,
” Fuck You !! ” – vote.
Some might be happy to note that since I am not a citizen , I have never voted. At least you get that.
Why are you not a citizen? I thought your parents were both American.
Yes they are .
I was born in East Germany.
Generally , to me , Germany is the Holy Land.
Specifically East Germany ; What I loved when I was four years old.
On that score , perhaps you could convey your deepest and all consuming love in a page or two ?
I have been writing about it since I was 12 , and still cannot find the words.
Not to bite you , but a very very touchy subject.
I talk around it a whoooooole lot.
It makes me smile a bit when Jarek calls you a Communist.
I don’t know about you ,
but there was a time when I literally wanted everyone to eat out of the same bowl , and live in dormitories , and ” equal ” means like Honeybees .
The extreme stuff an 8 year old can dream of and believe ?
I have noticed that you were fond of East Germany. You do a good job with that.
But if your parents are both Americans, then you are also, as far as I know.
You can’t run for president, but you aren’t interested in that anyway.
@ Socrates-Detroit
I have always been a compulsive writer.
For a long time that was ” fun ” ;
never was there a more peculiar , unusual , bizarre , and fringe kind of subversive perversion !!
Why ? How ?
Email , texting , chat rooms , etc , did not as yet exist to be the popular thing yet.
Phones existed of course , and while you couldn’t tote them around in your pocket , they actually worked ;
i.e. people answered the phone.
And last but not least , even if someone was 50 or even 80 miles away , you could always go see them face to face ,
because gasoline was that cheap !
At least that is how I remember it , and my theory as to why writing was as questionable as making porn.
Of course others experience of that brief time may have been different .
Even then I was writing that the United States was the evil empire ,
western cold war propaganda was at least one – third lies and bullshit ,
and death to the United States.
I guess that could have had something to do with it.
Still , in a hundred people I knew maybe three who actually wrote shit.
Cheap gas was very nice too , though.
You may not have driven to California ,
but I suspect a great many people , within a hundred square mile radius , drove the equivalent of to China , regularly enough.
I have not driven TO California (just in CA).
My father did though–he was in the military, took 30 days leave (vacation) between change of duty stations, and drove across the country.
He drove us (my mother and me, I don’t remember it, I was 2) from NYC to Detroit, Chicago, St. L, Texas, Vegas, LA/Disneyland, up to Northern California in 1967. Also Yosemite and some other park,they told me. In VW Beetle, no less. The interstates were not totally done yet. What a trip that must have been! I actually found the “Gulf Oil” map of the trip.
Only in America!
My adventure was driving 71 ?
70 – something ,
straight through Kansas , end to end.
Very pretty , like an ocean of land.
For some reason the landmark I most remember was a little town called Quinter , almost dead center , in Weestern Kansas . Very flat , and the wind never ceased blowing.
No idea why , the little town just appealed.
I have very specific fantasies related to Kansas .
I imagined I was driving across the Steppe to Stalingrad.
Anyway , still a wonderful place I thought.
eh , gotta go weird .
It was 1992 . The good news was you could finally get all this stuff from home , and for once I had money .
So no question , if I got nothing else I wanted Ritterstiefel — Jack boots .
Not from , home , but I had this really pretty elaborate pink and gold paisley silk dress .
If I was every pretty , I was pretty then.
I was smoking pot then ( whisper. Don’t tell anyone ) about as much as I smoke cigarettes , which is really heavy.
Like I said , the wind never seemed to cease blowing ,
and so I played Rhiannon ,
youtube.com/watch?v=CUX7Cf_lRw8
And Sara
youtube.com/watch?v=nKaUTELCVMY
driving through a sea of land ,
to a Stalingrad with a happy ending for everyone ,
in a Burgundy AMC Eagle station wagon , a great car I thought.
I don’t guess you people can relate.
But I had a wonderful life. 🙂
I always wanted to go to Dodge City & visit the Long Branch. Then I found out that Dodge City is 100% Mexican due to the meat packing plant located there. No matter, I would still like to go, walk in the footsteps of Wyatt Earp, Bat Masterson, Frank Luke, Wild Bill Hickok, Marshall Dillion et. al.
Dunno about the best drive back in the old days. But I do know what the best motorcycle ride in the East was in the 1970’s before traffic got bad. That’s riding the Blue Ridge Parkway and Skyline Drive from the Smokies all the way up to around 50 miles away from Washington DC. You’ll be riding the mountaintops for almost 500 miles. The speed limit is strictly enforced at 45 mph. You’ll feel and see the weather changing as you climb thousands of feet in elevation in just a few miles and top out at over 5500 ft as you ride along the TN/North Carolina section. In cold or bad weather in the 1970’s on this road there were times when you’d have the place almost all to yourself with little to no other traffic. Today it’s impossible to have those sorts of solitary experiences on the Blue Ridge Parkway. There are simply too many people engaged in recreational driving on the BRP today.
The only way for me to experience it as it was in 1974 is for gas to be rationed or too expensive for most people to be burning it up gawking at mountains on the BRP. In my opinion the only way to really experience the BRP is on a motorcycle. Have fun along the way exploring, camping, and hiking and make it a week long adventure. The best part of it all is when you stop as the return trip is almost finished and go visit Biltmore House near the Asheville exit of the BRP. You’ll have been literally out in the woods for 6 days or so living and eating in campgrounds and a KOA or two and suddenly you find yourself walking about in one of the most splendid and ostentatious mansions and grounds in all of America. There’s a decent restaurant nearby and a rider can enjoy a break before engaging in all the endless cornering that must be done to get through the Great Smokies. An opportunity is there to ride to the top of Clingman’s Dome, the second highest mountain east of the Mississippi R. Today the Great Smokies is just another crowded madhouse full of tourists driving bumper to bumper. Who would want to ride in all that? Might as well just go ride in Atlanta or Miami.
Growing up in LA, i developed an intense hatred of cars and driving long before I got my license.
Drive for fun? What kind of stupid bullshit is that?
I can easily and honestly say that I have never, not once, in my entire life, driven anywhere for any reason other than I had to.
Never once, have I driven “for fun”. I’d rather go to the dentist.
I remember reading an article in the paper, back in the day, that was written as a touching story, (because the writer and editor were clearly both total idiots.)
The headline was: “After 60 years together, husband and wife die on the same day.
Aw, how romantic. Except when I read it, it turned out that these 90 y.o, idiots decided to go on a joyride, because…..fun!
And then they pulled out in front of a car, which hit them. The wife in the other car, in her 40s, died.
She and her husband never made it to their 60th anniversary.
The old couple made it to the hospital, where they died a couple of hours apart.
Such a sweet story, to psychopaths maybe.
Lucid. And very interesting.
@getting weird thing.
Kansas has some pretty and interesting places. The Flint Hills is a beautiful place to go camping. There is a nice nature trail, but I can’t remember where it is–by some lake or reservoir. And then there’s Mushroom Rocks, a forlorn little park with some weird rock formations. It is my belief that, if you have to drive across Kansas, you should make the drive at night. This is especially true in summer.
If everything does go down I don’t believe China will be colonizing us they have their own problems e.g., no next generation, they will be going after Taiwan though as soon as Xi’s daughter graduates from Brown.
Perhaps, to the Chinese elite, tyrannical control of the entire planet is more motivating than are the population and demographics of the billion currently under their thumb.
***
When is Xi’s daughter expected to graduate from Brown?
OG,
I suspect you are right. I don’t think the Chinese elite give one little shit about their own people.
It is ALL about power. Power and nothing but power.
I can’t say why , I don’t know why ,
but I always wanted to see Brown , and Dartmouth.
Every other college campus I ever wanted to see I have seen.
I don’t think I’ll be seeing those two though.
Never went to college ! NOT my class !
But I like the architecture , culture , and campuses .
Jesus, people. Are you seriously worried about 1.4 billion people having a dropping birth rate?
What planet do you live on?
Party on, dudes and babes!!
Happy Birthday!
United States Marine Corps.
SemperFi….
What was your job in the Marines ? If I may ask.
No particular reason.
Just our resident Joseph Wambaugh is interesting.
Kesa,
No, I was not a Marine, but I respect their doctrine. I, myself wasn’t in the military, but WAS in the US Air Force….Pilot candidate.
The Air Force seems to get all the smart people.
There must be exceptions ? But I have not yet met an Air Force idiot.
Your father was a glider pilot ?
My understanding is gliders were crazy – brave shit.
I volunteer your family.
I like airplanes sitting on the ground.
Kesa,
Yes, and his was the first group into France on D-Day. Glider Pilots were not volunteers. My father told me that, on flight school graduation, they were lined up and told to count off by 3’s.
When told he was going to pilot combat gliders, he wondered “what the hell is a combat glider?”(It was a very new program, at the time, and mostly unknown).
He flew a Horsa, a British Glider, into France, and Waco CG-4 gliders into Southern France, Holland, and Across the Rhine. Always carried troops, rather than rolling stock. He said that no one ever died in any of his landings.
I remember reading about those gliders on D-Day. I also saw them in movies about D-Day.
“Have you lost count yet of the number of things in our country that are broken?”
We are certainly in a Fourth Turning! All credit and my admiration for the mind of William Strauss, may he rest in peace; his partner in the enterprise, Howe, is a fool, or paid agent of the Establishment. What did he contribute to the book? Bill Strauss was the prescient prime mover.
On “the other side”, in the metaphysical domain, I’ve had my eye on transiting Pluto for many years now, wondering what would happen when Hades returned to the zodiacal location where he was when the Declaration of Independence was signed on July 4, 1776. Well that was at 27 deg. 33 min. of Capricorn. And today, Pluto is at 28 deg. 07 min. of Capricorn. We’re smack dab in a “Pluto Return” children.
So, it is interesting that on the “secular” side of things we’re in a major Crisis turning; and on the metaphysical side of things we’re in a major Crisis Pluto return.
I don’t know how (it’s way above my Pay Grade), but somehow Astrology (the real deal not that popular silliness) manages to reflect astronomically what is happening terrestrially. The Ancients knew this, and they could see through a brick wall as well as anyone.
With all due respect to Bill Strauss, he had no way of knowing just how his Fourth Turning would end, would eventuate, anymore than anyone knew in 1932-42, in our last Crisis. But Astrology has some view on this. Pluto will be moving out of this damned collectivist Capricorn soon! So there WILL BE an end to this nightmare, one way or t’other.
As to what we’ll find when we wake up again, not one of us knows, only the Creator Itself. But Pluto enters the better, happier, more promising Sign of Aquarius, to stay, on Wednesday, November 20, 2024. Let us be optimistic.
I was referring to their (China’s) low birth rate like ours which will soon affect our economy profoundly, hence partly the reason for opening of the southern border. I heard that Xi’s daughter is a sophomore here in RI.
China could turn that around on a dime if they wanted too
Our population was under 100 million in the most productive era of the USA.
But people seriously believe that the border is open to make the US more productive?
What planet do you live on?
Yes. Agreed. It would be wonderful to overturn the immigration act of 1965. Not just to rid ourselves of all of the flotsam that has arrived here since then, but to really lay bare some of the execrable trash that has accumulated in our land. “Intermarried or bore bastards of some swarthy interloper?” “Sorry, you can stay, but your bastards and their semen-donor can go back to Somalia. Sorry to hear that. You’re welcome to go, too. I know its not an easy choice. Imagine what your grandparents would think of you?” “Parents disowned you and you can only get by on government assistance?” I’m terribly sorry. See how this ticket to Cape Town suits you.” I could reach “full employment” just putting real Americans to work tracing these people back and actively deporting them. It could be a 21st century Works Progress Administration that actually works for the American people. I should stop here because the endless and glorious possibilities tax the imagination.
@Beryl. Student loan debt may be discharged if the person filing for bankruptcy is legally disabled.
Most people who attended college in the West qualify as disabled.
Do you mean the west as in western USA? Or the west as in the cultural west? And what is the cut-off date for being considered a college grad who is disabled?
I received my undergrad in 2003, well before all the wokery took hold of everything, and I stood up to the little bit of wokeness that did exist at that time (although that word had not even entered the parlance at that time, I can now look back and see traces of its beginnings). I feel like I was one of the last groups to receive a higher education without being totally brainwashed.
European diaspora.
Quick not on encouraging self-diagnosed disability:
Just applied for some seasonal work loading trucks at UPS. Third question on the application is, “are you disabled?” The information included to assist the applicant in responding to this query advises that “UPS wants a workforce of 7% disabled.”
Couch
Look up the thread a little to find a post I sent to you.
JHK, a frightened public? You better believe it.
Our education system is producing indoctrinated folks instead of educated folks that understand what is going on.
Fear is a product of ignorance, which the Deep State is breeding into our country.
Our CFN group allows real information to be presented and most of the USA populace do not have a clue. Especially the immigrants from the past few years.
IMHO, the Immigrants have been propagandized and bought and paid for by the WEF and Soros. When they get here, there is no return ticket from the scumbags.
Hence the fear increases.
you worry a bit too much.
I think of MS13 and other org crime moving here.
lots of young males. chinese ad nausea
Do tell AZ…when was the last time you stepped into a classroom to observe this so-called ‘indoctrination?’
Remember those AIM tests that have shown the US dropping to 25th place in the world from first?
Districts dropping and American history for 1619 bullshit.
Stories from my 4th grade teaching daughter and the problem kids and parents.
jackrabbit – I have in my close circle a tenured college prof and a HS science teacher. While both staunch libs (and are fully vaxxed and boosted), they both have told me they’re having to fight indoctrination from above…critical race theory, diversity/inclusion mission statements and requirements, relaxed grading standards to produce “equity”, etc…let alone what the students are experiencing out of their teachers’ view.
It’s real.
Two Punjabis yelling at each other. I’m glad my grandfather died before he had to witness that.
/ In USA some areas now have anti caste prejudice laws….omg
She is far more White than he is. But he is much smarter. See, I’m no racist in the invidious sense.
Like Elon, he cares (or pretends to) about smarts and productivity. And paradoxically, that’s the downward path. Those are great, but only in larger context of Nationhood and of being a People. And that means under God…..
Has anyone else here seen the 2021 film “Old” by M. Night Shyamalan? If not, I highly recommend it. Makes you wonder, could big pharma actually pull off something like this? Coincidence that such a film with big pharma references were filmed at the height of the pandemic? I don’t want to get too deep into the plot lines and spoil it for you, but if you’ve seen it you know what I’m talking about. If not, get out there and rent it for viewing this weekend!
Good movie. Interesting concept.
If the five minute clip I saw a few weeks ago was any clue , it looks like it may be a good movie.
FOR ME though , I’m not so sure .
Like I said , it was a few weeks ago , so the details are hazy , but it struck me as very unsettling.
And unsettling seems my lifetime stock and trade as is. lol.
But , like I said , it looked good.
JHK
Your description of the political scene is right on. The two party system is just about shot.
Manchin is not running. Why? He says he will explore the USA for the feasibility of a new movement. Hahahaha! Sure sounds like a third party to me. RFK, Jr. Going independent, Trump maybe forced to go out on his own.
The two parties are dividing themselves, the end result being four parties? Could the USA run with four or more parties, like Great Britain?
Or will the uniparty succeed in creating a totalitarian state? One party? This has occurred many times in history.
Interesting times?
The Deep State WILL NOT allow another situation like DJT.
Take the logical ends & means to that end of that statement for what you will.
The DS has telegraphed to all of us, thru its political wing in the form of Nikki Haley, who the next target is.
It is Iran.
Hahahahahahaha!!!!
It is Iran, Iran, Iran instead of Russia, Russia Russia.
When will the PTB in the DS realize it is BRICS, BRICS, BRICS.
I think they do.
However, the “PTB of the DS” have zero strategy to counter BRICS. Other than sanctioning. We all know how flaccid international sanction regimes have become, so.
Iran is a much easier goal (in their deranged minds). It actually will be another impossible situation for the US.
The US has no idea how destructive a war vs. Iran will be. Or perhaps they do.
It’s actually very difficult to attempt to get into the minds of the PTB of the federal government at any level nowadays because of the amount of dysfunction & derangement that has occurred.
Pete
Drop two MOABs on Teheran and one on Bandar Abbas. Not much worth anything is left.
Saying that, Iran’s dying gasp may be the destruction of the Gulf’s oil infrastructure, IMHO, their ace in the hole.
The more the US sanctions, the more other countries back away from crazy nuke country (illustrated by John’s comment, above), and join the BRICS.
They would be crazy not to. If the US can at any time invoke the “rules-based order”, in order to place illegal sanctions on a country which has fallen out of favor, and steal not only their national deposits, but the deposits of their citizens, why would any rational country not back away, and join a group of countries that honor the trade agreements they make and don’t try to interfere in other country’s internal affairs?
And threatening to bomb them doesn’t actually help.
The only thing the US could do to restore confidence is to obey international and banking laws, quit stealing and looting, quit bragging about how miserable they plan to make the citizens of unfavored countries, and quit trying to overthrow other country’s governments.
Yeah, I know Not hardly likely.
“The only thing the US could do to restore confidence is to obey international and banking laws, quit stealing and looting, quit bragging about how miserable they plan to make the citizens of unfavored countries, and quit trying to overthrow other country’s governments.”
Yes, great post Paula
Doubleplus good
“Drop two MOABs on Teheran and one on Bandar Abbas. Not much worth anything is left.
Saying that, Iran’s dying gasp may be the destruction of the Gulf’s oil infrastructure, IMHO, their ace in the hole.”
Yeah, start dropping MOABs. Pakistan has nuclear weapons and they’ve stated that they are willing to donate/loan some to Iran. Then nukes land in Israel and we’re all off to the races. Such talk helps nothing and makes us look ridiculous.
“All this is apprehended to some degree by the increasingly frightened public, though they have a hard time articulating it within any of the popular frameworks presented by politics, religion, or what appears lately to be extremely corrupt science. The people see what’s coming but they can’t make sense of it, and the stress makes a great many of them insane. Without a way to construct a coherent view of reality, or tell the difference between what’s real and what’s not, they behave accordingly: anything goes and nothing matters.”
Yes.
“anything goes and nothing matters”… until the exact inverse becomes true, and people realize that a great deal of things DID matter, and there are consequences to energy & urban planning, amongst many other things.
According to the International Energy Agency (via NYT piece from 8/23), Big Oil will spend around $500 billion USD on exploration and development of new oil & gas fields. Companies like Shell & Exxon Mobil only spend around 5% of their annual budgets on “low emission fuel sources”.
“Exxon Mobil recently noted in a regulatory filing that “it is highly unlikely that society would accept the degradation in global standard of living required” to achieve net-zero emissions. And while Shell claimed it was still committed to net zero by 2050, it made clear it also believed that achieving that goal was out of its hands: “If society is not net zero in 2050, as of today, there would be significant risk that Shell may not meet its target.”” (from the NYT article).
Furthermore: “The seven major publicly traded oil and gas companies, like Shell and BP, known as the supermajors, produce only 15 percent of the world’s oil and gas, but as the I.E.A. has noted, they have “an outsize influence on industry practices and direction.” They also have the technological and engineering prowess to advance clean energy.” The other 85% of the world’s fossil fuels are being extracted by nationalized, governmental companies. None of these government run companies are changing, anytime soon, either.
Private companies like Shell are actually increasing their dividends to shareholders, instead of reinvesting in “renewables”.
If you study the energy situation, you also understand that all of this exploration is occurring in places more and more isolated, in more extreme & expensive places which take more expensive methods to extract those resources, and for fewer pools of resources.
So, it’s the Law of Diminishing Returns.
It’s all about greed, and desperation. Big Oil is making record profits on an increasingly limited resource. The desperate part is what Exxon Mobil said. People will not accept what the post-Oil world look like, and the corresponding “degradation of living standards.”
Info taken from August 7th, 2023 NYT article “Behind All the Talk, This Is What Big Oil Is Actually Doing”, by Jason Bordoff.
Okay, Pete.
“Instead of investing in renewables”.
Ford says it loses 26000 on each EV it sells, the others are going to be the same.
Planet of the Humans is a movie that shows how renewable energy generators will never replace oil, gas and coal. As it was made by Michael Moore, that in itself gives it credibility.
The conversion to the Kerry, Biden dream will destroy the current style of living.
Do not think that somehow it will be a transparent change.
Yes, I agree with your sentiments & info here.
I think it is more probable that most private and government run energy companies will be riding the fossil fuel supply chain down to the very bottom, and with little alternatives in place when that actually occurs.
So, essentially, we are headed to a severe energy induced calamity.
This shock will reverberate into the political world, as consumer prices for most items become completely unaffordable because of transportation costs, alone.
Scarcity, particularly in food, means hunger & famine. Which in turn means revolutions.
Just sayin’ 🙂
Haven’t you posted a lot of nuclear optimism in the past?
Yes.
Of course.
However. Jake Sullivan & the rest of the Biden White House don’t listen to me. Or people like me, Robert.
Somebody needs to SBF the nuclear power option, and dollar bill dump onto the Biden people. Then maybe it’d get an actual hearing.
but, idk.
Maybe if Yang were President? I think Vivek mentioned nuclear energy last night.
Once an auto salesman told me that they lost money on all the cars they sold but made up for it in volume. Actually happened, poor kid trying to find his place in the world. Probably not in finance.
Tucson,
Car Salesmen?
“Why go elsewhere to be cheated, when you can come here”?
And;
“We cheat the other guy, and pass the savings on to you…”
Thanks for those goodies.
Our current style of living needs to be destroyed.
Yes? I think there’s some merit in that argument, for sure.
However, here’s the trouble. There needs to be a valid, legitimate, reasonable, and realistic alternative.
Right?
Otherwise, literally All Hell Breaks Loose. Otherwise, it’s just another Antifa wet dream.
And that ‘destroying’ isn’t going to affect strong, younger men (in particular) but murder a lot of children, elderly, and otherwise viable women.
So. Ya. Destroy it. But have something people can survive with ready, as you are destroying.
idk
Box up your computer sell off your car and go live in a cave.
Go be a shepherd for a living!
What don’t you want to take the plunge first?
Go figure.
Our current style of living needs to be destroyed.
No. It doesn’t.
I’d elaborate, but you didn’t.
Credibility and Michael Moore that is absurd.
“… you already sense that the 2024 election will be a freaky event, if it happens at all.”
Voting has become a profoundly sad and empty ritual. Almost everyone now knows that voting doesn’t accomplish a damn thing… but we do it anyway. Sort of like on Thanksgiving when you always show up your relative’s house for dinner but you really don’t like anybody there but it’s a yearly tradition you are expected to do without thinking so you just act like a good robot and do it without a thought or care. And then you put on your silly. ‘I VOTED!’ sticker and parade around like you just saved all of Democracy or something. Sad. Silly. Empty.
Yes that’s sad. Voting was meant by The Founders to be an impactful living empowerment of We the People. But that’s why voting was turned into something meaningless by the Dark State. Since Dark Staters want to rule everything and everyone forever from their semi-divine wisdom and omniscience… They certainly could never allow The People do to anything that has real impact and power. So They kept the ritual of voting for The People but made it an empty shell… powerless and disingenuous.
‘Voting’ is the great distraction. A silly diversion that falsely gives the impression that office holders have actual power and are not just the lackeys of Big Money and Big Influence. But that too is just another myth. They are just bought-and-paid for like chattel or furniture. The real power is always held in shadows by those who never show faces to the light of day – Those who actually rule with their obscene money and scary allegiance to the darker forces in our Universe.
And of course, who doesn’t already know that The Two Party System has actually been the One Party System for a very long time now. Let’s see.. doesn’t a One Party System remind anyone of another form of government? Can’t quite place it…
“Have you lost count yet of the number of things in our country that are broken?”
It’s easier to track the things in our World that still function properly. That would be things like… uh… well… yeah there’s ah… oh crap.
“I started writing about the fiasco of suburbia decades ago, and now the endgame of that living arrangement is in view.”
Suburban Life had it’s day post World War 2 when everyone left the killing fields and went home and started families. Factories that had been building war goods began making refrigerators and wash machines. And everyone had to go buy them. And we had The Perfect American Family on TV like Father Knows Best (can you imagine any Woke Network today doing that?!) to inspire us about how everything was going well and the biggest problem a family ever had was too much starch being put into a man’s white shirt.
But then the unrest of the Sixties came along and blew the Big Suburban Myth all to hell. Suburban Life turned out not to be the paradise it was promoted as being. And the rot of the interior City began to creep outward and follow the march of all the people who were all trying to move away from that urban decay. Guess you can’t outrun human failure when you carry that along with you.
“The people see what’s coming but they can’t make sense of it…”
‘Oooh! Look at that Great Big Light that’s rushing towards us! Isn’t it pretty?’
‘Aren’t we standing on a railroad track?’
‘What’s a railroad track?’
‘Uh, it was something they used many years ago… but I don’t remember what for.’
‘Aw, don’t worry about it. Let’s just enjoy that Great Big Light that’s getting CLOSER!’
‘OK! Weeee! Here it COMES!…’
Hey, hey, It’s the Monkeys
They don’t monkey around
They’re too busy singing
To put anybody down.
Prabhupad said, First you see the Light (the path of yogis. Then the sound (higher yogis), then you see the form: Bhakti Yogis.
People get ready
There’s a train a comin’
You don’t need no baggage
You just get on board
All you need is faith
To hear the diesel’s hummin’
You don’t need no ticket
You just thank the lord
So people get ready
For the train to Jordan
Picking up passengers
Coast to coast
Faith is the key
Open the doors and board them
There’s hope for all
Among those loved the most
There ain’t no room
For the hopeless sinner
Whom would hurt all mankind
Just to save his own
Have pity on those whose
Chances grow thinner
For there’s no hiding place
Against the kingdom’s throne
You know there’s no hiding place
There’s no hiding place
So people get ready
There’s a train a comin’
You don’t need no baggage
You just get on board
All you need is faith
To hear the diesel’s hummin’
You don’t need no ticket
You just thank the Lord
People get ready
Curtis (Superfly) Mayfield
“When I was a young boy
Put copper pennies on the rails
Locomotive come and squash ’em flat
Dreams of far-off places and other lives to be led
Swirling in my head
There’s a whistle calling
There’s a train in the distance
Silver moonlight falling
Now I am a grown man
Turning in my sleep
Debts and obligations
Family ties run deep
Promises to keep
There’s a whistle calling
There’s a train in the distance
There’s a light rain falling
You can ride that train to the far end of creation
Away from everything and everyone you know
You better make friends with your angels and your demons
They will be riding with you wherever you, may go
But, you have to go
There’s a whistle calling
There’s a train in the distance
Autumn leaves are falling”
– Don Henley
As I wrote earlier (somewhere in this Comments section) this World is One Big Classroom. For souls. In order Learn about everything.
And, I just realized, that this particular Lesson we are in right now, is not finished. There’s still more to learn from it, so it’ll run until its finished.
Because, as bad as it is, I reckon if it ended now, we would not get the Full Benefit. It’s a Hard Lesson, but it is necessary. For the Future.
If you ever want to write about Astrology , I’ll read it.
All I ever see is the “psychic ” bullshit …. whatever that bubble gum crap is.
Never the real Astrology. 🙁
Rather like Farmers Almanac’s and mechanical clocks ; Sure , really antique shit but the ebbing away of it mystifies me and utterly dismays me.
Remember though, the first point of Aries or the vernal equinox is now in Pisces. As you may know, the constellations (signs) shift because of precession. The ‘Age of Aquarius’ will begin when the equinox moves from Pisces into Aquarius.
‘The Age of Aquarius in the U.S. is associated with the hippies of the 1960s and ’70s, and now with the New Age movement. In both cases, the arrival of the Aquarian age has been associated with … well, harmony and understanding, sympathy and trust abounding. And that brings us to the 1967 smash-hit musical “Hair,” with its opening song Aquarius, by a musical group called the 5th Dimension. The song opened with the lines:
When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars
This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius’
@ tucsonspur:
I would say that was just hype for the hippie movement. I think there’s a historical argument for precession of the equinoxes into new signs heralding a kind of change in consciousness; e.g., supposedly the vernal equinox in Taurus was a sort of “golden calf” era–though I’m not sure that theory holds up, as we should be talking about the whole world, and not some desert tribes. And, supposedly, the age of Pisces refers to Christianity, symbolized by the fish. I don’t know enough history–especially world history of the ancient world–to be able to evaluate the whole “precession of the equinoxes” and mass human consciousness.
Actually–assuming there were any truth to all this stuff–the Age of Aquarius could represent a descent into mere humanism. For 2,000 years.
Have you seen it? Brawl breaks out outside the Museum of Tolerance in LA over the screening of a film showing the Hamas attack on Israel. Lots of gore, I guess.
Gal Gadot is said to be involved in organizing the event.
Los Angeles Mayor Karen (blackass) Bass decried the violence.
“We cannot allow current worldwide tension to devolve into this unacceptable violence in our city,” she wrote on X. “This is a time of immense pain and distress for thousands of Angelenos. We must stand together.” Yeah, those Angelenos are really suffering. Too much sun?
Not familiar with it.
It so happens I have been following Gaza very closely the past two weeks ,
though from an Islamic , Palastinian , Syrian , Lebanese angle.
Anyway , whatever ones side or preferences in it ,
I’m not sure I would recommend it.
I’m in an Ivory Tower ,
yet my feelings are incredibly emotionally intense.
Seriously , I’m not sure I would recommend it.
It isn’t the sanitized pablum of mainstream news , or a movie.
Either side , a gentle warning ; It’s heavy shit.
That is , I at least can very easily imagine folks getting into fist fights in less than two minutes in Nebraska if they have seen any of this.
Of course there is always the element that is looking for bar fights.
And I suppose literal agents of Satan himself doing the agent provocateur – thing , and slinking around.
‘Love’ to see it screened in NYC.
Scuurred little boi. Armor up, sissy.
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Hey, JohnAZ. Correctomundo! And I totally agree with you about the Californication of Colorado. I lived and graduated a couple times over in the Springs/Denver area. Beautiful cities now overrun with crap migrators, no matter the ethnicity. It’s just getting effing crowded.
You’re right again that it’s horrible here politically and housing marketwise. Anyhow, Peoria and Chicago, as you likely know, are far worse. Fortunately, my home here is paid off.
I moved temporarily to Illinois to get away from a crazy ex girlfriend. I did crisis care primarily for adolescents during peak C19, and I decided to switch professions after seeing so many colleagues buy into the bullshit.
Alongside that, you wouldn’t believe how many healthcare pros fully bought in to the gender fluidity nonsense. I don’t mean politically, I mean physiologically. As far as I’m concerned, they have forever blood-stained hands, considering all the kids that kill themselves each year over this cultural insanity.
I “heard” an old fart complaining about having difficulty getting someone on the phone for some relatively minor problem recently, bitching that this is proof the country is finished. That’s twenty-year old news, at least. Want real proof that this political/economic system is a genocidal death trap? Look at how it’s now eating the young.
Part of my family hails from Arizona, as well. I lived there for awhile growin’ up. Tucson, Rillito, Casa Grande, Phoenix. My uncles were in the aircraft/car sales and fuel station industries when I was a youngin’. If you’re old enough, and know the Tucson area at least, you might have heard of Gremmler Oil? Maybe you bought gas at their family-run station in the 90s. If I’m assuming correctly that you’re from AZ. Not my last name, btw.
Cheers.
0-15 Maryland
16-56 Colorado on and off
56-75 Arizona
Party Party seems right to me , CFN seems off to a galloping start this Friday.
I Have never been on during the day , though , that I recall .
@ BackRowHeckler
Connecticut / New Jersey ? So I suppose you have seen the ocean ?
As I said , the best I can describe Western Kansas is an ocean of land.
It apparently leaves some cold ?
I found it staggeringly beautiful.
@ Groundhog
I only visited Biltmore House once , and could not linger , but I did make sure to visit the portrait of George Vanderbilt , painted by John Singer Sargent , my very favorite painter.
Trivial detail that might not interest you at all , but , anyway.
Funny note on travelling through Kansas. I once made it a point to drive through and visit Liberal, KS. Haha, the irony of a conservative visiting “Liberal”. Anyway, as it turns out, the city was named after the old turn of phrase “That is very liberal of you” a.k.a. the fact that the residents showed great hospitality. It has nothing to do with politics.
Oh, and I visited Dodge City while in those parts too….Not much to see there but the tourist trap mock-up of the “Old West”.
Must again seek to impose mymusic tastes on others !
I didn’t hear this song till many many years later.
But I never hear it without thinking of Kansas ;
youtube.com/watch?v=LATJglJUyZ4
Earth and sky , and I hear the wind in it.
For the love of gawd Jim, take your meds and at least write something original. What is this supposed ‘hard evidence’ against Biden you speak of? And don’t be a hyperbolic jackass when you claim the dems will cancel elections. Give me an f’in break.
Here we go again, jackrabbit being the quintessential jackass….
Sorry to hurt your feelings CB, did I say something wrong?
Emails, sworn testimony, Hunter’s laptop, Joe on videotape confessing, bank records…….
sure, no hard evidence.
Unlike with Trump, where a New York judge took it upon himself to evaluate Miami real estate, in order to accuse Trump of “fraud” in a loan application.
Which loan has already been paid off.
Yeah, that’s some convincing ”evidence”.
The shitlibs have no standards or ethics. They just hate on command, whoever their owners tell them to hate.
Why Paula I agree with your post 100%!
Not that you care but good job.
How would you feel if someone took a scalpel and took of the skin on one side of your body?
Our borders are the skin of the nation and the Biden regime has cut off the skin of our southern border.
Impeach? It’s treason. A crime against the Nation.
I will go one further to not impeach is also a crime and those dragging their feet should also be removed from office.
“ Bad choices all along the way, you could say, but perhaps an inexorable process of nature.”
Bad choices for sure, unclear if anything about the program is natural at all. Consolidation, centralization, and destruction of the enemy (free humans) seems to be the point of the exercise for those very few who benefit.
You can always use JHK’s guests as a barometer of just far out to sea he has become….Naomi Wolf? Wow. JHK has become a three-headed monster…part Tucker Carlson, part Alex Jones, and part screeching harpy. Sad. And I smirk at his knock on Romney, more of a patriotic American than I gave him credit for, for willing to call out the insane clown posse that is the republican party, i.e. the real party of stupidity and chaos.
Someone is jealous of Jim’s success…..
Uh, no. Keep trying big boy.
That sounds really gay. Is that what you intended?
Your idiocy knows no boundaries.
Sad are we that he has left the party of insanity behind namely the DNC pushing fairytales and nonsense on the world as reality?
“ You can always use JHK’s guests as a barometer of just far out to sea he has become….”
YOU floated up, pal.
Yet another comment from @Jackrabbit that consists entirely of name calling. Perhaps he’s unaware that his failure to ever present an argument of any sort, or even a single fact, does not go unnoticed. Popping up periodically in the midst of an exchange of ideas to shout “You’re stupid!” or “You’re a harpy” or “Poopy head!” or some other equally lame epithet only serves to make it clear that he has nothing to contribute.
Can you get Naomi Wolf, jackrabbit?
Oh. I see.
Speaking of things in this country that are broken and worthy of being pissed off about is the state of medicine; calling it health care is a lie.
I’m halfway through a book, “The Big Fail” about the pandemic and how almost everyone and everything was a jug screw from the start. No one is spared by the author’s findings.
And the book covers a lot more than the pandemic. For years, the underlying system has been rotten to the core with greed.
Early in the pandemic, hospitals for ‘have-nots’ were quickly overloaded with the sick and dying, bodies piled up in refrigerated trucks, we saw those news clips on TV. Hospitals for the ‘haves’ often had empty beds but refused to accept the overflow from the “Saint Elsewhere” hospitals that deal with under-and-uninsured patients.
Worst chapter so far is the financial machinations in the medical-industrial complex. The author weaves a narrative of how Wall Street hedge funds, and especially Private Equity firms, gamed the system to maximize obscene profits while screwing patients and health care workers. Leveraged buyouts on steroids. The billionaires live in Greenwich, CT, their victims live in despair, not only in rural America but in metro areas as well. The industry is just plain sick.
If your manufacturing job went offshore it was the handiwork of Wall St darlings like hedge funds and PE who threw you under the bus and blamed the DEMs.
When it comes to nursing homes it’s not so much health care as it cruel and unusual punishment. Lacking proper staffing levels meant COVID patients were co-mingled with the un-infected who quickly became infected — and died.
As JK says, anything goes, nothing matters, no one cares. Regulators don’t regulate. Standards of care are neither followed nor enforced.
We did this to ourselves. Toxic capitalism. Little to no oversight of what private equity is doing with $7.4T of cash that is sloshing around the globe. PE buys up profitable firms, denying our retirement accounts the chance to earn dividends and capital appreciation. PE gets all the benefits, we get screwed. In year 2000 we had 5,500 publicly traded companies, by 2020 it was down to 4,000 firms. PE bought a ton of firms, to include rolling up hospitals and nursing home operators — then cutting staff by as much as half.
JK is right that medicine is a racket. This book lays it all out to see.
One of these days maybe some of you will move past shock & surprise and graduate to “how do I get in on the action”?
Perhaps the most important step is to finally realize the *it’s always been this way*. Whatever fantasy one holds dear in post war America is just that, an exercise in bernays mind control practiced on the young and vulnerable.
If you’re able to move past denial, and then bargaining and anger plus a bit of depression, the final stage is clear sailing. Acceptance brings with it clarity and the ability to finally see reality as it actually exists.
As they say, that’s when the fun begins. Who gives a shit about the election, woke politics and other countless means of diversion? In my best woody to buzz voice “They.Are.A.Distraction!”
Know that energy is the foundation, with geopolitics (Ukraine, Palestine) the clearest visible manifestation of the global competition over scarce resources.
In this context, money is simply the scorecard to keep track of who’s actually winning … and it ain’t us. So, wadda you gonna do about it?
Absolutely nothing. Those folks today buying guns, despite their previous political leanings, are the next Ukrainians. Long live the Empire. *Grin.
And don’t trick yourself into believing that you’re at the point of metaphysical acceptance which we all desire. If so, you wouldn’t be submitting the “look at this!” fear porn that you do. But thanks for the verification anyhow.
“And don’t trick yourself into believing that you’re at the point of metaphysical acceptance which we all desire.”
Good point.
“Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.” — Mike Tyson
I don’t want in on any of these schemes, especially Bitcoin, the current king of vaporous mirages.
There’s always been graft, corruption and scams, but the LBO wasn’t envisioned until the 1960s and didn’t hit stride until the 1980s. If we can make them illegal they’ll come up with something else to game a system in their interests. Their house always has the edge.
Yes, distractions galore….abortion, gay rights, the utter bullshit about “Merry Christmas.” Bread and circuses for the masses, hide the truth of what’s going on. George Carlin told us this a generation ago when he spoke about Who Really Owns America — it’s big club and you’re not in it. As he stated, voting is there to give us the illusion we have control. We don’t. It almost doesn’t matter who gets elected, the billionaires have bought government (and the judges) out from under us at the federal, state, local, and even at the level of your local school board; their money will assure we get only crumbs.
“It almost doesn’t matter who gets elected, the billionaires have bought government (and the judges) out from under us at the federal, state, local, and even at the level of your local school board; their money will assure we get only crumbs.” – MyPOV
Not almost – Done. Prove otherwise.
And the people still believe in the System that got us here. And would simply reset it and do it all again. That’s their “solution”.
Sad truth, that.
You guys tend to come back with post ww2 inflection points, entirely missing the entire history of the European conquest.
Over 100 years after Cortez, himself 30 years after Columbus, the Brits get in the action with the formation of both the jamestown and Plymouth colonies.
With that royal charter in place, the slave trade begins in earnest. 150 years after that, the French defeat the Brits on our behalf to break their strategic hold on N America.
The colonialists, acting on their own behalf, then seized northern Mexico, but the really 100x banger came with the Civil War.
The industrialization of the north created important war industries that dominated arms sales to Europe, culminating of course with the outrageous profits garnered in ww1.
All along, intelligent people well understood just how stupid normal people were, with religious indoctrination being exhibit #1.
If you get the big picture, if you understand 8b can’t be supported without energy surplus, then this shit is just so much diversion and entertainment.
Wow! It must be amazing for you to have such an impressively big brain!
We must seem like ants to you.
P.S.
Does your pretension ever get so swollen that you need a wheel-barrow to transport it around (similar to men with elephantiasis of the nuts)?
The Capitalist/Communist mentality is ugly in the extreme. This guy is a male Paula. When everyone else is enjoying a forest, he is calculating the quantity of wood and how much he could make from it.
” Did you ever hear Norm MacDonald’s bit about Joe Camel? ”
— RD3
” No. Tell me. ”
— Jarek
My guess —
NSFW
youtube.com/watch?v=9M6xiDB_TOs
The other way around , a bit like what I was suggesting about Saratoga 120mms.
Remember when normal folks could keep the mentally ill and deranged, sex-obsessed Sodomites on the margins and out of the mainstream by mocking and ridiculing them? I do.
One of the reasons I don’t romanticize childhood. When I was ten , or when I was twenty , anyone crazy enough to admit to being homosexual , or accused of being homosexual , would have a very , very , very bad time of it.
I don’t want to exaggerate , it wasn’t lynching . But I remember occasions when many 12 year olds were very mean to one other 12 year old. Funny thing was , I’m not even sure your typical 12 year old in those days would even really understand what a homosexual was ? We certainly didn’t have Pornhub. And I myself did not learn the specifics of that until I was 15 , and because I read it in of all places a college history book.
But however it worked , that’s what I saw.
Children can be as monstrous as 40 year olds.
And I felt very , very sorry for them.
Fast – forward to today.
Well , obviously I’m not in middle school today , so I wouldn’t know about that particular case
But I trust you are aware that at least some protected , privileged homosexuals , and several other types besides ,
are now the ones getting in peoples faces , being really mean , and just plain sadistic assholes .
Indeed , I dare say it would otherwise be called sexual harassment , except it isn’t called sexual harassment.
My memory may be faulty ? But I might even go so far as to say they go much , much farther in their aggressions than was the case when the whip – hand belonged to the other group ?
I can’t say you are wrong , or lieing,
because you are not.
Otherwise I do not know what to say.
It’s a savage world , except perhaps even more so than it was.
I seem to remember a time when I could walk down the street and was scarcely ever afraid.
Now it seems , when are you never not afraid , even when you go nowhere ?
You are probably already sick of me , but —
” It would be wonderful to overturn the immigration act of 1965.”
I’m mixed – race , and an enemy alien.
More long stories , so I won’t go into it.
But I actually agree with you on that.
Thank you for admitting that you are an enemy alien that doesn’t belong here. Nothing personal – just business.
When America was 90% White, it was strong. If it had been 100% White, it would have been even stronger. How stupid do you have to be to not understand this?
We had a gifted minority (about 3%) who looked White but didn’t identify as such, of a different and hostile culture. They overthrew us using the Blacks and self hating White liberals whom they had programmed in the so called “universities” or finishing schools for treason. The “conservatives” became useful later after a powerful group of the subversives left Communism and became Conservatives in order to use these rubes against America.
@jarek
It really is a formula used often.
It has been used on many countries and now it is our turn.
Think Argentina and Venezuela.
The exact same style of destruction was used on South Africa.
A good friend escaped with the clothes on his back and 2,000 American thirty years ago and now he is watching it all happen again here in America.
@kesa
We are about the same age and everyone knows by 12 what a homosexual is at least with the boys.
I’ve said for some time that bullying had its place in society, and it kept the fringe on the fringe. Now those freaks are running the joint.
Bring back bullying!
No now the fringe are the bullies or want to be.
Everything Is Broken –
Bob Dylan
Broken lines, broken strings
Broken threads, broken springs
Broken idols, broken heads
People sleeping in broken beds
Ain’t no use jivin’, ain’t no use jokin’
Everything is broken
Broken bottles, broken plates
Broken switches, broken gates
Broken dishes, broken parts
Streets are filled with broken hearts
Broken words never meant to be spoken
Everything is broken
Seem like every time you stop and turn around
Something else just hit the ground
Broken cutters, broken saws
Broken buckles, broken laws
Broken bodies, broken bones
Broken voices on broken phones
Take a deep breath, feel like you’re chokin’
Everything is broken
Every time you leave and go off someplace
Things fall to pieces in my face
Broken hands on broken ploughs
Broken treaties, broken vows
Broken pipes, broken tools
People bending broken rules
Hound dog howlin’, bull frog croakin’
Everything is broken
Late to the party….ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
The K-pop community has lost a rising star.
Korean singer Nahee died at the age of 24, her record label Mun Hwa In shared in a Nov. 9 Instagram post.
“Singer-songwriter Nahee has left our earth and become a star in the sky,” a statement translated from Korean read. “I am sorry to bring sudden news to all of you fans who have supported and loved Nahee.”
Were you a fan ?
Ugh ! Russia , Palastine , now Korea .
” Trouble comes in threes ” they say.
I send 50 dollars a month to a Korean Orphanage. Have for many many years.
Never been there . Another long story.
They say only the good die young , too.
I think there is some kind of truth to it.
My vague theory is God tends to take the best ones first.
Which seems very cruel to us,
but time crawls when you are sitting in prison.
But God Knows this is only a moment , and we will see them soon.
Well , at the end of WW II when the United States occupied the South , and the Soviets occupied the north,
Japan was the key priority , Korea very much was not.
The American occupation army was very much a skeleton crew , hand – me – down everything , or even equipment that didn’t work .
So when full – strength North Korean divisions with armor poured across the border , the shit truly hit the fan.
It’s the only real occasion I know of where the Americans fought one – to – one , or even at a disadvantage.
I suppose you will be pleased to know they fought very hard .
Stellar performance .
As seems to be typical of East Asians , North Koreans were some romping – stomping killer sons of bitches too.
” Hell in a very small place ” was a book about Dein Bein Phu ,
but I think Hell in a very small place was an apt description of Korea.
Then there is the religious aspect.
I cannot go against North Korea ,
but North Korea is absolutely intolerant of the Church.
And Christ and the Church do not seem to interject any caveats in saving souls and spreading the good news.
So I’m fucked.
That’s the story.
Strong feelings again.
Here is the history.
China
The Us went into China to clean out the Japanese after the war. They assisted the Chinese to start reconstruction of the areas near the coast where the Japanese conquered. They were associated with Chang Kai Chek at the time, as he had been one of the anti_Japanese guys during the war. Then Mao showed up, pulled off the Long March and drove Kai Chek onto Taiwan. As it now sits.
SOKO and NOKO separated because the US, allies, did not approve of the family ruling Korea as they, like Ho Chi Minh in Vietnam was siding with the communist world that was forming up, namely China.
SOKO with the USA, favoring the South, was attacked by the NOKO and almost driven into the sea as you have indicated. MacArthur shows up, pulls off the landings at Inchon and drives the NOKO folks back to the border with China. Mac Arthur,from what I have read, wanted to put in a belt of radioactivity across the NOKO frontier with China. Truman, the politician said no, and relieved Mac Arthur of his command. Then the Chinese crossed the border and just about drove the SOKO, USA troops back into the South China Sea. The SOKO USA folks fought back, driving the Chinese back to the present DMC at the 38th parallel where a cease-fire was accomplished.
Officially the war has never stopped. The family in NOKO that the USA did not like are still in power.
Unfinished business, Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq, Israel, Iran, Syria are the nemeses of this country. Stability is the last thing our government wants, so we are condemned to eternal war.
Unfinished business, Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq, Israel, Iran, Syria are the nemeses of this country. Stability is the last thing our government wants, so we are condemned to eternal war.
Maybe you “are condemned to eternal war” because you consider the world’s hotspots your “[u]nfinished business.”
Maybe your FF were correct.
The FF were correct in making the creation of war needing approval of the Congress, to stop dictatorial presidents from just marching off to war.
Like right now. The war powers act was one of the worst power grabs in this nation’s history.
Agreed. But you have completely missed my point.
Frustrated by French meddling in U.S. politics, [George] Washington warned the nation to avoid permanent alliances with foreign nations and to rely instead on temporary alliances for emergencies.
Washington’s admonition to Americans to avoid foreign entanglements stemmed from his own personal experience. He knew first hand how costly wars could be and wanted the young nation to maintain a goal of neutrality with all foreign governments as much as possible.
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To claim to not want to meddle in other countries’ affairs immediately after claiming “unfinished business” in six of those countries is counter-productive at best and hypocritical at worst.
The lack of self-awareness by Americans as they stomp all around our planet (and always making bad situations way worse) is what is so off-putting about youse, fyi.
They say only the good die young , too.
I think there is some kind of truth to it.
I think it should be the only the young die good.
Haven’t had enough time to fuck up everything else in their lives. So it’s actually not a sad thing, at least from that perspective. They can be canonized before their MeToo moment occurs.
Also, sometimes the stupid die young.
Source: “Hold my beer…”
Poem
Nahee!
Nahee,
R.I.P.
There it is – sudden.
Just looking in on another installment of the geriatric version of the Ethnic Studies Majors for Palestine movement and although the poster names may change, the pee-dribbler brigade is still well represented.
The deep thinker above noting the “industrial scale slaughter “ in Gaza is today’s big winner. There is a rumor going around that the CDC is considering offers of employment to the Hamas officials “tallying” up the death toll. After all, even the douchebags at the CDC who attributed Covid as the cause of death for damn near anybody who kicked the bucket in ‘20-21 at least had to have an actual dead person to do so. Hamas just makes up numbers using apparently base-72 (virgin) math. The CDC are pikers compared to the brave Smiters of Colonists under 6 months of age. Even Biden who half the time doesn’t even know his own name had his bullshit detector tripped.
But even though our “industrial slaughter“ bed wetter takes today’s prize, he’s not even in the same league as the Moon of Alabama choad who claimed that Israel could kill up to 1 million Palis in this conflict ( I’m not sure who is more ridiculous, the poster of this anal leakage or the MoA fluffer who reposted it here but that’s a topic for another day ). To put things in context, the battle of Stalingrad, one of the bloodiest in history, ran for about six months with deaths averaging about 10,000/day and they “only” hit 1.9 million total dead. That’s the Wehrmacht and the Red Army squaring off, not a smallish regional army v the not-ready-for-prime-time Falafel Brigades. I can only surmise that the poster of said anal leakage was on his period and not thinking clearly.
Fun groanin @ MoA:
Ah well now that I am settled down after long trip and have looked at what’s going on at the natzios in full fascist denial mode across every single front they have been screwing up for centuries. I’ll start where I left off, with the bastard fantasy Santa ‘cuntry’ Israel.
We all know that of course it denies it’s an Apartheid state because 20% of Israelis are Arab- Palestinian!
Well they are treated with contempt, imprisoned , held without any due cause – for asking that the war against civilian Palestinians in Gaza is stopped. Or asking to ask!!
‘Sami Abou Shahadeh
@ShahadehAbou
Nov 9
I have been released after 7 hours of detention for the “crime” of being a Palestinian citizen calling to end the war. By contrast, if I were a Jewish citizen calling for a genocide of Palestinians I could become a minister.
This should be a wake up call for western governments that keep encouraging this racism by taking about “shared values” with Israel.
Nov 9, 2023 · 7:01 PM UTC ‘
/nitter.net/ShahadehAbou/status/1722690931260903642#m
Just a 2 minute statement- please watch – this is what Nazis Germans did to any one who stood up against them in Germany in the 30’s.
Next. I don’t hate any religious people for being very religious or even slightly so. Heck even I have been known to take some solace when dealing with death of friends and family and no doubt will do so again- but that will not turn me or most of the actual daily religious believers into frothing at the mouth fascist Nazi scumbags , hiding behind a religion or some form of patriotism – a willing meat puppet of the propaganda techniques widely known and practiced by every imperial colonial power.
Tomorrow in the U.K. the current bastard cnuts of Britain, including a supposedly religious British PM, a Hindu has announced he will be protecting’ a monument – to peace after a deadly un-necessary meat grinding, poison gassing war to end all wars , which didn’t end any such! – from people calling for the stoppage of mass civilian murders in Gaza. Supported by the ‘Loyal Opposition’, led by a supposed ‘human rights’ lawyer (as Orwellian a doublespeak as ever invented for the jailer without trial of Assange) , the natzionist Great Knight Dope being moulded as PM of a neutered Labour Party to take over from he ‘sick Tories’
Imagine that ! It’s as if people in 1939 were demanding that German Hitler Nazis stop their onslaught agains the non Aryan Germans in Germany and our hoity toity PM of the day refused to allow such a gathering near the cenotaph and happily turned a remembrance of war into a celebration of the coming bigger war.
There are cenotaphs and n every town and city in the country I expect many will see peaceful calls for the end of the Palestinians suffering after a hundred years and calls for the end of the Apartheid Israel Project long planned before Hitler was even born.
Finally tonight. It seems the Nazgûl ride to all corners to ferment the greater death to come – they really expect that 2/3’rds of humanity can be wiped out in nuclear death and the rest will inherit some future glorious lives planet! The multipolarists are matching them in every arena.
Putin and co are in Kazakhstan facing down the traitor in the multipolar bossom there. Assad is going to Saudi, the bravest hobbit of all, into that lions den, risking death and decapitation; Xi meanwhile will take on the unelected scumbags and banshees of the EU as the natzio dark lords of Israel and US froth daily more dementedly, begging that their banks and fortunes aren’t destroyed overnight.
See that bond auction yesterday , see that yield spike and still not enough sucker buyers anymore ? The Prime Banksters had to swallow it themselves.
Is it darkest before the dawn? With whatever religion I can muster , I pray that is true or else it really will be all over by Xmas for everyone including the singed Santa and shot down Rudolph’s.
The fascist are desperate, the fact that they were able to draw Israel into their frantic gyrations shows they’re circling the drain. They shot their wad. Now the war will begin at home in their own backyard with their own citizens.
Israel is a victim? Lol.
I read almost everything you write.
‘Fun groanin’ has certainly got the vile Keir Starmer right and the neutered ‘Loyal Opposition’.
His Majesty’s Loyal Opposition opposes nothing, apart from any and all expressions of the truth, and is loyal only to our Owners. I’ve said as much to my own scumbag MP, a shadow secretary of state who is the last remaining Labour/Uniparty representative in my country (until the even more vile SNP are trounced at the next election).
I got no reply.
It’s always nice to hear from the anti-Semitic fascists, so we can see their insanity on full display.
You must have wet dreams of wearing one of those fancy SS suits and standing over long ditches full of dead jews.
What a horrible thing to say.
Whose insanity is on full display?
Massive projection as these quotes from the Talmud show:
Kill the Goyim by any means possible.
Choshen Ha’mishpat 425:50
Everyone who sheds the blood of the impious [non-Jews] is as acceptable to God as he who offers a sacrifice to God.
Yalkut 245c
Extermination of the Christians is a necessary sacrifice.
Zohar, Shemoth
Tob shebbe goyyim harog – Even the best of the Goyim (Gentiles) should be killed.
Soferim 15, Rule 10
[NB: Hoffman says, “This passage is not from the Soncino edition but is from the original Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as quoted by the 1907 Jewish Encyclopedia, published by Funk and Wagnalls and compiled by Isidore Singer, under the entry, ‘Gentile,’ (p. 617).” Another source says this passage is at Avodah Zara 26b. We have not been able to verify any of these references. It does not seem to be at Avodah Zara 26b of the Soncino edition.]
mitchellc – Interesting. That nitter clip took me about 7 minutes to watch the 3 mins of content. It was perhaps being throttled by my provider(?)…pausing every few seconds to try to get me to click away. But either way, there’s a guy who just wants to go about his life.
There’s a little ray of hope, broadcat and cable media viewing has fallen to less than 50% of viewership. Ah yes more people are watching Youtube and Tik Tok. It will be challenging to work in those pharma ads with people having the attention span of a fruit fly.
NO… Nightowl. So far.
Or Layla / SoftStarLight.
But then my schedule for years has been midnight – 4 AM EST.
And I typically see her if nobody else , and commonly see only her.
So maybe she isn’t absent , I’m just 15 hours early.
But , yes , I think NightOwl is a day person ? And no NightOwl.
Grrr , ” Day person ” , keeping in mind central Europe is 6 hours ahead of EST.
I’m no good at this math stuff.
LOL , they are absent ONE DAY , and I’m worried !
Now I have to go to bed and shut up !
Perhaps Zilcher has shoved his head so far up his ass this time that he has straight-jacketed himself from typing.
I like NightOwl. He’s a dick, but a smart one.
Only a dick to those who start shite, Mango.
I learned long ago that most people respond to the person playing the victim and selling the bullshit. Emotion wins the day. They hate the smart asshole initially, but know he or she is often right.
Social structures are so ripe for manipulation that it is shocking that humanity is still around.
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Still here Amman. Not much to say. Don’t care for the issues being talked about lately. The stuff that really matters IMO is all being legislated in our infiltrated governments, and TBH only a handful of posters here ever post or have posted anything insightful on it.
I have more or less accepted that we are going to have to go through some serious shite again in the very near future.
I will give it to the globocap parasites: They understand how to keep the herd distracted!
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Death and grief.
Fear and Horror.
Screams and bombs.
These are children of Gaza.
And all the while, the perpetual insufficiency of reason.
So Patience.
Faith told me Palestine will win.
” Lucid. And very interesting.
@getting weird thing. ”
If you meant me ?
Then I really must say thanks.
My own assessment is that I have been plain cracked the past two weeks.
But I have been writing since I was 12. But I have never changed.
I get the impression from many other posts though , and not just CFN , that it has not been the best week.
Most people are good I think.
I’m late to the party, but I think this is your best post of the year, Jim.
It’s an absolutely spot-on assessment of our current state of insanity and decay.
So, it has begun in earnest the steady drip of bugs are good stories.
/////https://www.iflscience.com/why-insect-meals-could-soon-be-on-your-plate-71361
Bernhart, the owner of MoA and who posts as B, translated Hizbullah’s martyr’s day speech; here is an excerpt:
(Again, in the absence of balanced reporting, it’s necessary for PIQ to consider pro Palestine POV to counter hasbara influenced US/UK media [CNN, Fox, et al]).
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The resistance responds to every Israeli attack. We will not tolerate any attack on our civilians. We have reconnaissance drones over all of north Israel. Some came back, some are shot down. They draw away Israeli air defenses from other fronts.
We will continues with this. We will increase the quantity, quality and depths of our operations. The people in Lebanon support the resistance. This helps to be an effective influential front.
What happens on the battlefield is more important than my speech. Time is important for the resistance. It helps to grow until the enemy admits defeat.
When all the pressure comes together the enemy will have to settle. Netanyahoo is changing his aims on an hourly basis. It shows the pressure Israel is under. Its military failure on the ground and the protests are all pressing on it. The time for it is limited.
The resistance will achieve victory and Israel will not achieve its aims.
I ask you to pray for the martyr’s and for our success. We pledge to continue on our paths. The finally victory will come – god willing.
Israel after October 7 is no longer what it was. Its strategic position and its security is diminished.
We must continue on our paths.
This is what we in the US/West are up against. The entire game hinges on the dollar – it really is just that simple.
Yesterday I bought a few things at the local grocery – the bill was $86. I have no idea how people on either a fixed budget or limited income are managing.
If we lose the dollar, the USA as a single entity might collapse. Only states which provide real value added will be able to maintain trade.
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ConcernedCeltiberian # MoA:
Every passing day i am more and more sick of it all…
It´s everywhere: the Imperial Strategy of Chaos is working nonstop – whether the senseless slaughter in Ukraine and Gaza or any other of the less bloody but still very concerning developments all around the globe. In my home country, the local Imperial puppet, Sanchez the Satrap, is being quite successful in blowing up Spain in real time.
Let´s remember that the main support of the Imperial machine is the US dollar. Its ability to print unlimited amounts of money at zero cost and have the rest of the world accept them for real goods, services as well as for corrupting & buying local politicians and elites.
At one point i thought that China would have some kind of secret doomsday financial weapon to crush the dollar and bring down the existing Anglo-based financial and monetary system, but now i don´t think is going to happen.
But still, common people are still capable of bringing down the Dollar oligarchy. Under the current uncertain outlook, a general strike in Western countries lasting a couple of weeks coupled with the rest of the world doing a full scale Boycott Disinvestment and Sanctions package on Nato countries would push the Dollar based monetary and financial system over the edge.
China does not need to counter the dollar. BRICS++ alliances are going to do it by just starting to deal in their own currencies. China and Russia both know that the collusion between the Mob and the WEF is going to bring down the West and its dollar. IMHO, Europe is going to be the beginning of the end of the West as countries there determine they will get more good from their neighbor, Russia, and the Caspian oil countries, than from the USA.
My question was and is Why? Why does Biden want to destroy the credibility of his country? Is he a true traitor in the cause of destroying fossil fuels? Is the faux climate change BS the cause of the Deep State trying to bring this country down?
Or is it demographics? Are the darks and have-nots of the world just overwhelming us? Again, Begin and the Dem Mob are just facilitating this to get votes.
Or is it all in the seat of Fauci and his mob, trying to justify his existence and keep himself out of jail? Is Biden (and Trump I might add) responsible for the Covid fiasco and its deleterious effect on the USA and the world.
Or D, all the above.
Our number one enemy is domestic, the collusion of this government and the Liberal elements of the WEF.
“Against all enemies foreign and domestic”
Every asshat in DC, with the exception of a few House members are fraught with farce taking this oath.
Yet even the few exceptions swore an oath to Israel lest they be ostracized and marginalized in DC.
Would love to see you actually prove that.
Oh, wait you can’t.
The oath they took that seems to supersede the one they took to defend and support the Constitution is one of personal enrichment nothing more.
Why? Because Biden is puppet and does the bidding of the PTB. And the PTB, in their quest to play God, need to reorient America and the world.
They have succeeded in, finally, uniting the West (those who write in Latin letters, like we are here). Now they want to totally dominate it.
Do the PTB control the Chinese? That’s the million dollar question.
They don’t control Russia–but Russia “manageable”. Boxed in.
I think the Chinese are rebelling against the PTB and trying to get out from the dollar ASAP.
So then, you will have TWO blocs–the PTB/West and the rest, with China being their leader by default, and Russia having a special place.
Who knows. We will see. But on the BIG issues of MONEY, WAR, and GLOBAL affairs, the PTB own both parties.
Now who are the PTB? Good question.
GA believes that it is a diversified group of wealthy Irishmen et al.
I am less convinced.
I’m not convinced by that rather disingenuous assertion re ‘wealthy Irishmen’, which is worded that way for a particular purpose that does you no credit, even if you cover your arse with ‘et al’.
I don’t ‘believe’ anything. I have merely noted that the 13 dynasties generally cited on the matter are largely (but not exclusively) Anglo-American. They are certainly not primarily Jewish, on the face of it.
I asked you 3 questions on the previous thread and you declined to respond.
(1) You yourself pasted the list of 13 alleged bloodlines on here (they are, according to the theory, the PTB). I asked you, since you posted the list, which of them were Jewish.
(2) I asked if those that didn’t appear to be Jewish (Li, Kennedy, Onassis, DuPont, etc.) are in fact Jewish anyway.
(3) I asked (and pointed out that it was not a rhetorical question, because I know nothing about any of these people) if the Rothschilds are held to be the granddaddy of them all and the rest on a lower level (i.e. supporting your thesis that it is a Jewish conspiracy, despite most of the families on that list not appearing to be Jewish.
I await enlightenment from your general direction. Thank you.
As a reminder:
Astor, Bundy, Collins, DuPont, Rockefeller, Rothschild, Onassis, Kennedy, Li, Freeman, Russell, Van Duyn, Merovingian line.
Who are the PTB?
The number one question of the 21st century.
Biden’s boss.
Macron’s boss.
NATO’s boss.
Trudeau’s boss
Who will be the number one foe of BRICS++.
There are folks on this blog who wonder which will be worse, the ascent of the WEF or the ascent of BRICS++.
Either way, the USA is toast.
Israel? Oh, ho. The ally of the 20th century USA, the enemy of BRICS++, and the “ally” of WEF, the West. Understanding this possible relationship makes it understandable why Netanyahu is suspicious of Biden.
Ukraine was the first brushfire for WEF vs. BRICS++, Israel is now number two.
Revelation predicts the result of this maybe final world war. Maybe the demise of everything human and the rise of the divine leadership, the promised divine intervention is coming sooner than we think.
Maybe?
GA
Pick one, things like this are never one by committee.
Even SPECTRE had a boss, Blofeld.
Does no one care about the plight of the Catalonians?
Plights are now so commonplace that it’s taxing to care about them all anymore. Sad but true.
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Lahaina 8/8. Lest we forget US officials barricading American citizens to their molten and charred deaths.
Here you go, OG. More on Oct. 7th.
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Thanks, PD. It seems an obvious inside job to me but this man’s concrete account is much more credible and, therefore, convincing than is my intuitive understanding.
Absolutely valid point.
I’m too busy patting myself on the back for having a good laugh over , ” Don’t Israel My Juice. ”
I never said I wasn’t a scumbag.
If CFN had signatures , mine would have to be ;
” ( We are not Russian Hackers )
It’s the Left – handed Eskimo I tell you. “
Are you fat? A beast stuffing himself with goodies?
More men died at the dinner table than ever died in battle.
Cicero or some other Roman worthy
The people of the East and Near East are masters of living on little food. I do this as well, though not as well as they do.
I believe Asoka from years back was a breatharian.
You may be pleased to know I always imagined you as textbook Aryan .
Facial features rather like Erich von Manstein , but a bit taller and a bit more slender.
Not sarcasm. That’s just what I imagine. *shrug *
No, I’m afraid. I am not that high. I’m the opposition. One of the native Europeans who fought the invading Aryans. Some Aryan genes on my mother’s side.
But my the old European genes aren’t too bad either. A mutt but the different strands aren’t in complete opposition like those poor Euro/East Asian mixes. Or Black/White.
The Mestizos might have been awkward too, but there are so many of them and it’s been so long that it’s become the norm in most of Latin America.
I always scoffed at anyone who predicted that our ruling overlords would cancel elections.
Are you kidding me? There is no bigger circus in the bread-and-circus paradigm, than the election circus.
It keeps Americans amused for months, even years, and also divided, probably the bigger bonus.
But I think they overdid it.
I remember waiting for Nov. 8, 2016 like waiting for Christmas as a child.
That election circus started in early 2015, and was one of the most acrimonious elections (as everyone knows) that I have ever seen.
I just wanted it to be over, so that we could go back to some semblance of normal relationships and life.
But, no, it was not over. There was no relief. Nov. 8th, 2016 was only the beginning. They rolled out TDS in all its irrational, psychotic, madness of crowds. Russiagate was insanity personified, and it made the Dems into irrational hysterics.
And then we went through 2020, starting with pandemic hysteria, moving on through non-stop riots, and culminating in the most blatantly stolen election possible. (Except for the Supreme Court coup of 2000.)
Then they threw people protesting the stolen election into jail without trial, and now they are using bogus lawfare to persecute their main political opponent.
At this point, elections in this country have lost all credibility, and we, the people, have lost interest. This election is a farce that very few are following, and it’s already a year away, which in US election time is just around the corner.
How can you have a circus if people hate all of the clowns, and don’t want to participate?
Will they just drop the pretense and announce the “winner” the way they always do, except for the voting part?
Could happen.
Great article JHK. My only quibble has to do with the implication that the BRICS+ will crash along with western civ. My read of history shows that empires have come and gone with the rising of the next empire. We see this from the Greeks to the Romans,
Persians to the Turks to the Westerners, and more recently from the Dutch to the Spanish to the French to the English to America (I’ve probably left out many, but the point is made). Now America will decline and another empire will rise. The most likely candidate for the next empire is the BRICS+ managed by the Chinese. I am quite sure that my children will live to see what it means to live in a 3rd world country looking from outside at an advanced high tech 1st world China/Asia.
There is a reason Jimmy Rodgers (of Quantum fund fame) told everyone listening to CNBC to teach their children Mandarin so they can be good waiters and waitresses for their Chinese masters; he was never again invited back on the channel or even mentioned again. Often Truth hurts.
“At this point, elections in this country have lost all credibility, and we, the people, have lost interest. This election is a farce that very few are following, and it’s already a year away, which in US election time is just around the corner.” – Miss D.
This may be true for me and you, but I’m not sure the the wider swath are as disinterested as you suspect. Will you share what made you come to that conclusion?
Thirsty Trump supporters are gonna show up biggly in ’24, and regardless of how I feel about him I certainly understand why they will. However, I still maintain that Trump never won and never lost, but that’s my own tin foil hat belief.
Nevertheless, the placeholder in the oval office doesn’t really matter. And if by chance Brand Trump actually does “win” this cycle, you can be sure that American youth are still gonna be sent to die in WWIII. That will be the sad irony of cultish Trump support.
Same is true for “Joe Biden” acolytes btw; although, one way or another it looks like Biden will soon be off the menu.
The Deep Staters were grossly embarrassed by the Russian victory in Ukraine. If they don’t act soon enough, American hegemony will indeed lapse. But the Neoliberalcons ain’t goin’ nowhere for the foreseeable future. The short term geopolitical game is terribly intense right now, and everyone feels it even if they don’t understand it. For that reason, there’s probably a heck of a lot more interest in the selecting the next Prez than we realize.
Your last sentence was actually my point, but I can see that it sounded like my point was that people don’t trust the voting process, therefore they aren’t interested.
It’s more that they understand that no matter who the next president is, the wars will continue.
I think that many people don’t trust the voting process. It started with the HAVA Act and the installing of the machines, which many people protested, including Dems.
TDS has ruined the brains of many Dems, but there have to be some that still don’t trust Black Box Voting.
And anyone who voted for Trump is likely to understand that his/her vote was stolen. It’s possible that some have been convinced otherwise by the incessant propaganda, but anyone who is watching the process, including the political prisoners of Jan.6th, and the lawfare against Trump, should be even more convinced that there is no actual semblance of an honest voting process left in this country.
But yeah, the lack of interest shows up by the lack of total acrimony seen in 2016 and 2020.
People may have their preferred candidate, but not many actually think their preferred candidate is a good one, as far as I can see.
Most people survey the field and vomit a little, in their mouths.
They see no one good enough to lose family or friends over.
Our ruling overlords jumped the shark, and people are tuning out of the election show, as far as I can see.
I actually agree that Trump didn’t win in 2016 and didn’t lose in 2020.
I think that Anthony Wiener’s laptop contained things that made TPTB announce that Trump won, instead of Clinton, even though she actually probably did win, much to both of their surprise.
And obviously, the 2020 election was blatantly stolen.
simple psychology
Kohlberg’s levels of moral development are as follows: The Preconventional level: children accept the authority (and moral code) of others. If an action leads to punishment, it must be bad. If it leads to a reward, it must be good. There is also a sense in which decisions concerning what is good are defined in terms of what is good for us. The Conventional level: children believe that social rules and the expectations of others determine what is acceptable or unacceptable behavior. A social system that stresses the responsibilities of relationships and social order is seen as desirable and must, therefore, influence our views of right and wrong. The Postconventional level: here what is right is based on an individual’s understanding of universal ethical principles. What is considered morally acceptable in any given situation is determined by what is the response most in keeping with these principles.
Heinz Dilemma
Lawrence Kohlberg (1958) agreed with Piaget’s (1932) theory of moral development in principle but wanted to develop his ideas further.
He used Piaget’s storytelling technique to tell people stories involving moral dilemmas. In each case, he presented a choice to be considered, for example, between the rights of some authority and the needs of some deserving individual unfairly treated.
After presenting people with various moral dilemmas, Kohlberg categorized their responses into different stages of moral reasoning.
Using children’s responses to a series of moral dilemmas, Kohlberg established that the reasoning behind the decision was a greater indication of moral development than the actual answer.
One of the best-known of Kohlberg’s (1958) stories concerns a man called Heinz who lived somewhere in Europe.
Heinz’s wife was dying from a particular type of cancer. Doctors said a new drug might save her. The drug had been discovered by a local chemist, and the Heinz tried desperately to buy some, but the chemist was charging ten times the money it cost to make the drug, and this was much more than the Heinz could afford.
Heinz could only raise half the money, even after help from family and friends. He explained to the chemist that his wife was dying and asked if he could have the drug cheaper or pay the rest of the money later.
The chemist refused, saying that he had discovered the drug and was going to make money from it. The husband was desperate to save his wife, so later that night he broke into the chemist’s and stole the drug.
Should Heinz have broken into the laboratory to steal the drug for his wife? Why or why not?
moral dilemma heinz
Kohlberg asked a series of questions such as:
Should Heinz have stolen the drug?
Would it change anything if Heinz did not love his wife?
What if the person dying was a stranger, would it make any difference?
Should the police arrest the chemist for murder if the woman dies?
By studying the answers from children of different ages to these questions, Kohlberg hoped to discover how moral reasoning changed as people grew older.
The sample comprised 72 Chicago boys aged 10–16 years, 58 of whom were followed up at three-yearly intervals for 20 years (Kohlberg, 1984).
Each boy was given a 2-hour interview based on the ten dilemmas. Kohlberg was interested not in whether the boys judged the action right or wrong but in the reasons for the decision. He found that these reasons tended to change as the children got older.
Kohlberg identified three levels of moral reasoning: preconventional, conventional, and postconventional. Each level has two sub-stages.
People can only pass through these levels in the order listed. Each new stage replaces the reasoning typical of the earlier stage. Not everyone achieves all the stages.
Level Stage Definition Response to Heinz Dilemma
Preconventional 1. Avoiding Punishment Moral reasoning is based on direct consequences. Heinz should not steal the drug because stealing is illegal, and he could be punished.
2. Self-Interest Actions are seen in terms of rewards rather than moral value. Heinz should not steal the drug because stealing is illegal, and he could be punished.
Conventional 3. Good boy attitude Good behavior is about living up to social expectations and roles. Heinz should steal the drug because, as a good husband, he is expected to do whatever he can to save his wife.
4. Law & Order Morality Moral reasoning considers societal laws. Heinz should not steal the drug because he must uphold the law and maintain societal order.
Postconventional 5. Social Contract Rules are seen as social agreements that can be changed when necessary. Heinz should steal the drug because preserving human life is a more fundamental value than property rights.
6. Universal Principles Moral reasoning is based on universal ethical principles and justice. Heinz should consider non-violent civil disobedience or negotiation with the pharmacist. The decision reflects a conflict between property rights and the sanctity of human life.
Jarek: What level of morality are you at? Do you agree with Kohlberg that he shouldn’t steal in order to save his wife’s life as per stage 6? Stage 5 seems higher to me.
Does it matter if it was a stranger? Of course it matters. You’re not going to risk your life and freedom for someone who isn’t your family, duh. Does attaining a universal vision mean denying the previous stages in absolute terms? Only if you plan on renouncing the world and living in a monastery.
It’s a strange kind of universalism that destroys particularisms. Thus Kohlberg’s vision seems at the “monist” stage. The “not one, not two” of the Mahayana is far more inclusive. Monism introduces illusion as an all but absolute principle – thus denying itself at its very conception.
Or do you think Heinz should kill his wife and put her out of her misery – stage zero.
Or kill himself because he has a German name – stage seven?
“Heinz should steal the drug because preserving human life is a more fundamental value than property rights.”
Jarek,
I remember, in the bad old days, while taking a course in ethics, we had a Catholic Priest come into our classroom and lecture us on a similar topic. “If you are starving to death, is it moral to steal a loaf of bread?”
This class was part of an 18 week recruit training class…Oakland Police Department.
The answer, of course, was left to each recruit.
As a final note, the Priest said nothing of blasphemy, or the “tongue thing…”
One taker! Everyone imagines that good and evil are self explanatory to each and every person. By no means!
It’s different at every stage. And in this sick culture, the higher levels arise as suicide pacts.
What should Heinz do – in your humble opinion?
Jerek,
I am afraid that I (Heinz) would…prevail upon the druggist to obtain the drug.
Zaz rejoices….
What about if you want/need a pair of Jordans that you can’t afford?
Is it moral to steal them?
I don’t know about moral, but it is now legal in Blue cities.
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Other than safe spaces for opinionated cowards, the internet has let everyone regress to their childhood of pure narcissistic pleasure. I think Mr K gets a perverse enjoyment of reading small brained fools with large egos spew their venom. Sometimes I think the perpetual hate mongers and know it alls on this site are some of the loneliest embittered people on this earth.
Well, if you’re going to do something, you might as well strive to be the very best at it.
“Without a way to construct a coherent view of reality or tell the difference between what’s real and what’s not, they behave accordingly: anything goes and nothing matters.”
This statement by JHK seems, to me, to be getting at something more fundamental than broken economic, business or financial models.
“Anything goes and nothing matters,” appears to be describing a climate of general de-humanization in which we are all participants and where the trajectory
may well lead to mass murder.
So what does it mean to be a human being?
That gets us into the realm of meaning, place, roots and the importance of some kind of spiritual cultural center which radiates a sense of limits.
Is such a restoration possible?
Is continuing to live in our present anti-culture possible?
A football talking head just said “they dominated the line of scrimmage.”
WHAT the FUCK does THAT EVEN MEAN?!?!
Please define that phrase in plain English.
BTW, Iowa leads Rutgers 3-0 at halftime.
That means that one team’s big guys (linemen) manhandled the other team’s big guys (linemen).
I think I forgot to mention… the final score was Iowa over Rutgers
22 – 0.
“Israel after October 7 is no longer what it was. Its strategic position and its security is diminished.” – B
And America was recently exposed as a Paper Tiger. Not sure who lost more credibility on the world stage – U.S. or Israel? And proof that the American president doesn’t hold any real power, as Netanyahoo basically told him to eff off when the PR crisis emerged and the world started demanding ceasefire.
Been watching John Mearsheimer and Alexander Mercouris discuss these ideas on YouBoob today.
Isn’t it funny how quickly the Israeli’s became Nazi’s in ’48 when they stole back Palestinian land. All this time Israel as an apartheid state is entirely ignored by the American people and their leaders. America is one giant lie.
The former Black slaves who agreed to go back to Africa (Liberia) enslaved the native Blacks.
Only Whites have any large number of people attaining post-conventional morality – and they do so in a stupid, self hating, suicidal way.
Yeah, but it’s our lie (life).
All of this moral posturing and quest for truth is, in many respects, just a form of mental entertainment for many PIQ.
Honestly, who here (or in the broader real world) is going to sacrifice their position and advantage gained from being a US/EU citizen, with all the dirty baggage that it entails, for the sake of some empty gesture?
Not me, that’s for damned sure. So, we can know we are collectively wrong, perhaps even evil, and that if we lose we will be judged accordingly by the rest of the world.
I’d be interested in hearing JHKs take, because at some level if we can’t alter the system, but rather resign ourselves to operating within its sphere, what moral authority do we have to demand change over superficial events such as open/fair elections, medical honesty (covid), and other middling domestic problems?
No one wants to be the Indian; everyone prefers being a cowboy. Being the winner means credit cards work, gas is (relatively) cheap, the justice system works somewhat predictably (for middle class and above), food is abundant, you can get on a plane and fly off somewhere, in general life is actually pretty easy and good.
So, it’s really a bit if a pity about those poor suckers suffering for our lifestyles. As the saying goes, “sucks to be you”.
Mostly all good points Mitchell. I’ve been driving at as much in my own remarks but you said it very crisply. I respect you’re honesty in admitting that, for all your awareness of the evil truth(s), you’re damned sure not going to sacrifice whatever advantage you have for some poor sucker.
Perhaps where we part company, which certainly makes me no better or moral than you, is that as I’ve become more aware and understanding of the dark truths, I have adjusted my lifestyle, given up certain advantages and live with much less than I could have. I am prepared to give up more if need be.
While I won’t willingly die for this country’s lies or the safety and comfort of its complicit citizens, I do directly work for and with the underdogs of the land who don’t have a voice. It was a burden I brought upon myself for once not knowing some of those painful truths we’re speaking of, but I’ve mostly made peace with the burden.
I guess I don’t quite know what you mean when you ask, “what moral authority do we have to demand change over superficial events…?”
Isn’t that what the supposed best concepts of Western Democracy folded into this constitutional republic, and handed down to us are about?
I guess a civilizational lie is a lie no matter how you dress it. So, I can only presume that a demand for change is always left to one’s inner sense of faith, conscience, and purpose.
Thanks for weighing in.
*your… and several others missed.
It will “suck to be them” right up until the point that first-world systems crack. Then it will suck to be us—whoever is dependent on those systems. And being them, at that point, might suck less, comparatively (depending on the specific “them”).
By implication, g.r.22, every group is dependent on the 1st world fraud holding steady. Those who are dependent but have no agency will die quickly. The group you might identify with most who are supposedly independent will eat each other trying to hold on to what they believe is rightfully theirs. Another lie, since it was all stolen from the undeveloped world and peoples in the first place.
But you’re right, it’s soon to be open season on the privileged. John Michael Greer said, “Collapse now, and avoid the Rush” I took his advice to heart.
Good advice… for sanity now, if nothing else.
Tell us about your shack in the swamp. Please?
I make my living off of rural property, an assortment of swamp trailers. Have a cabin and a trailer I live in, and a few boats and paddles.
Any gators? What do you love about the swamp? That’s it hostile to people? Or do you love it for itself?
Swamps and industry never mixed, some of the few forgotten places. Fishing’s always good. We have some gators, but not the giants.
Do I love it for itself… yes, 10 years’ worth. People have lived here a long time. It’s just not easy to mine or farm, or to build very large, permanent structures on the land.
I don’t live on a raft eating frogs and snakes. Maybe one day..
@ Anthea
” As you probaby know, repairing a rosary takes a good light, a pair of needle-nosed pliers, and a little time. ”
Lol , yes , and particularly when you are very keen on Ladder Rosaries.
On account of that , I had to pay a pretty penny to get a Rosary built like a tank.
Also , I do not have arthritis , but my hands shake and ache , not so much that I can’t manage —
( but thank God for keyboards. I still carry a quality pen everywhere , but my paper letter – writing days are over. )
— but such that little things are annoying. So I like a BIG Rosary.
Then I lost it during a visit to the Cathedral , undoubtedly IN the Cathedral .
Knoxville is a big town , but , except for a gas station , ALL I have seen of Knoxville since 2013 is the Cathedral.
A trip to Knoxville is like a trip to the moon .
I wind up going to the Cathedral fairly regularly for Church business ,
But on account of what I just said above , not THAT regularly.
So I assumed God wanted another person to have it.
Since it had attached four embarrassingly expensive female Saints medals attached ; Dymphna , Joan of Arc , Kateri Tekakwitha , and Philomena ,
and the decade beads were pink ,
and since a K – thru – 12 school is attached to the Cathedral , I would like to think it wound up in the hands of a school girl , and works to keep her in the Church.
But , ” the servant proposes , and the Master disposes ” as they say
Or maybe it is the other way around ?
In RCIA I read that the Bible is not mans search for God , it is Gods search for man.
And / or elsewhere read that it is God that approaches man as a suitor , and can only propose . Just as in relations between humans , one can only propose . To impose is dictatorship , tyranny , or hyperbolically : rape.
As the Protestant Milton famously put in the mouth of Satan ;
” Better to reign in Hell , than serve in Heaven . ” Which seems to mean he is in Hell because it is what he wants , not because God wished it.
At least that is my screwy understanding of such things.
Perhaps you get my drift ?
Anyway ,
So I had to go buy another big , sturdy , Rosary.
Speaking of the Cathedral , the Diocese only became a Diocese in 1983.
And for various reasons , the Cathedral then was only a parish church.
Many —- INCLUDING MYSELF — raised holy hell when the Bishop insisted on a new Cathedral.
Actually I did not raise holy hell. My position relative to the Clergy , and to Catholics in general , is like my relation to Germans ,
they walk on water in my eyes , even when I know perfectly well that they do not.
So while I cannot say my behavior toward them has ever been only perfect ,
well , one reason it certainly is not perfect is that any Westerner is steeped in republican ways , in a hundred different ways , and so my deference is awkward.
With Conservative Clergy , or Clergy from the global east or south , though , my manner is apparently quite complimentary.
Anyway , so I didn’t raise holy hell , but I was keen to plow our resources into another 20 or 30 years of Catholic Schools , especially.
But the Bishop , is the Bishop.
And on that score I am certainly partial ; He was a GREAT Bishop.
But imagine I would think that even if I hated his guts.
So the Bishop got his Cathedral.
When I say , ” I have only seen the Cathedral ” I am not complaining.
There is a line in a song I am partial to ;
” I own a mansion , forget the price. Ain’t never been there , they tell me its nice. ”
EVERY TIME I step through the door of this Cathedral in my mind I turn to an imaginary companion and say ,
” The pennies of 80,000 Catholics built THIS ! ”
It was inagurated in 2018 , but you would think it had been inaugurated in 1518 .
And it belongs to the Church in east Tennessee.
@ GreenAlba
Uh – oh , this one again.
Speaking of the crazy things you imagine —
I have no idea what you think of Clare Daly. Maybe you hate her guts ?
Maybe you don’t know who that is ?
And I have no idea what your feelings or position on Gaza are.
But I saw this clip yesterday and said to myself instantly ,
” That’s what I imagine when I think of GreenAlba ! ”
Warning , this short clip is pretty darn harsh , if you are pro – Israel you might not like it a bit. My intention is not to offend here .
twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1722984568959979549
It’s supposed to be a compliment.
east Tennessee by the way was thickly settled by Celts ,
so except for the accent she could pass for an East Tennessean .
And beautiful people they are I think.
The eloquence too.
Though you might not call that ” eloquence ” .
I don’t know.
Oops ! She is more like me , biography – wise.
Oh well.
Thank you (for the clip). I haven’t read her biography yet, but her performance there is quite something. I wish I could speak in public like that (I couldn’t speak in public at all without my voice shaking – I’m an introvert through and through, hence writing instead). Anyway, yes I’ve heard her before, a couple of times, and she’s impressive (unlike myself – I’m afraid I put the Un in Unremarkable, sorry to disappoint).
Anyway .. my views on Gaza: I am neither pro-Israel nor anti-Israel. I merely acknowledge that Israel exists, a bit like Northern Ireland exists, and that from that existence come endless unresolvable moral and political dilemmas. I wish no harm to any ordinary Israeli citizen (although my feelings towards the West Bank ‘settlers’ are less positive), but the current massacre of Gazan civilians is an outrage which Clare Daly expresses admirably. Especially since it is becoming increasingly clear that what happened on the day of the Hamas attack is not at all as presented originally by the Israeli government. The ’40 beheaded babies’ would seem to be no more real (even by the Israeli goverment’s admittance) than the Hun bayonetting babies a little over a century ago, which some qualify as the beginning of modern propaganda. And many of the Israeli civilians appear to have been killed by their own soldiers.
Anyway, I can’t remember what else I’ve heard Clare Daly talking about, but she’s a powerhouse. As for eloquence, yes, definitely. I can do eloquence, on occasion, in writing, but in real life I lose arguments because I think of the best lines only afterwards. So you’ll have to revise your image of me. She does have the same kind of hair as me – straight and fine – although mine’s not long any more!
“Anyway .. my views on Gaza: I am neither pro-Israel nor anti-Israel. I merely acknowledge that Israel exists, a bit like Northern Ireland exists, and that from that existence come endless unresolvable moral and political dilemmas. I wish no harm to any ordinary Israeli citizen (although my feelings towards the West Bank ‘settlers’ are less positive), but the current massacre of Gazan civilians is an outrage which Clare Daly expresses admirably”
…Yeah, what Alba said.
Your comment expresses my sentiments, almost perfectly.
” Thank you for admitting that you are an enemy alien that doesn’t belong here. Nothing personal – just business. ”
— Jarek
Well , except for my once a week or more tirades and nervous breakdowns ,
yes , perhaps you begin to see what I mean when I say it is not about like or dislike for me . It is , ” just business ” as you said.
It’s a movie , and maudlin, but that or a wall of text from me again .
Short clip ;
youtube.com/watch?v=U5418CiBukw
On a lighter note , had to go to town today on business .
A very beautiful town , with a disproportionate number of affluent White people , by the general standards of this area.
Beautiful weather too .
” Speak of the Devil , and the Devil appears “.
There was a ” roadblock ” — two people with collection buckets standing on the yellow line of the two – lane main street.
I don’t know whether they have that in your area. In the area I used to live for 20 years I never saw that.
But this area , as I have said before , IS STILL very much Norman Rockwell .
It was The Veterans of Foreign Wars , collecting money and handing out Red Poppies.
It so happens my filthy lucre was laying in a pile atop my North Korean Spy gear in my pocketbook .
As typical , I treat money with disdain , because I’m Princess Fauntleroy you know.
There is no telling how many hundreds of dollars I have left on the black top in parking lots on account of refusing to secure money properly.
But , as I said , it was a two – lane main street in Candy Land ,
so of course there are already cars behind me .
And , believe it or not , I forever have first in mind two points ;
— God Damned Carpet – Bagger Imperialist Yankees
— And none of these Tennesseans invited me to Tennessee
So I am in fact acutely aware of the cars behind me.
” Ah ! There is a $ 20 on the top of the pile ! ”
So I gave them the 20 , that felt good , and I got a pretty plastic red Poppie. 🙂
One of the calls I had to make was to a nursing home .
” Band of Brothers ” was on the TV.
Ugh , I don’t want to see that.
Sure enough ,
a unit of Americans runs across a meadow , the leader in the lead goes up an embankment , crests the hill , and stops.
There is a German in mid – stride not ten feet away , and 20 others in pause about ten yards back to the right.
The thought that instantly pops into my head is ,
” Kill the Mother – Fucker !! ”
I’m not talking ( in my head ) to the American.
And that’s why I have never seen but maybe five minutes here , or there , of that movie.
And why it felt good to give the Americans 20 dollars for a plastic flower.
Ugh , sounds like a sermon I suppose ?
Nah , I’m totally fucked up.
Life is strange. I can’t parse it.
Very pleasant Veterans Day actually.
Eh , you got a wall of text anyway. Oh well.
I like you. Ignore benr, he’s deliberately mean.
There it is the abused child who had her pigtails pulled as a girl.
Damaged goods and it shows in half your posts.
So, who abused you, Paula?
Never mind I don’t want to know because there is nothing that can be done about it now.
Deliberately mean is there any other reason to be so?
Is there such a thing as being mean to the enemy?
In world war I the Germans wanted to outlaw the shotgun because Americans were using them to clear trenches with absolute maximum carnage.
The funny part the same Germans were putting saw edges on the bayonets so when they stuck someone in the guts, they also ripped those same guts right on out of the body which was always fatal.
Mean is a matter of perspective just like good or evil.
One man’s freedom fighter is another’s terrorist and so on.
Odd considering you are not of Germanic heritage.
Yet well I am so what if that American was actually Germanic in genes and American by birth?
Kesa you really are a mess.
Living in a land with a people and culture you despise and whom if they knew who you were would equally despise you.
@GA
I asked you 3 questions on the previous thread and you declined to respond.
Apologies. I never scroll very far upthread. I have never seen these questions before. I definitely was not intentionally avoiding them (your accusations notwithstanding).
(1) You yourself pasted the list of 13 alleged bloodlines on here (they are, according to the theory, the PTB). I asked you, since you posted the list, which of them were Jewish.
I have not a clue. Statistically, one would expect zero yet the Rothschilds banking dynasty has ran the West’s money for centuries.
(2) I asked if those that didn’t appear to be Jewish (Li, Kennedy, Onassis, DuPont, etc.) are in fact Jewish anyway.
I guess that depends on the particular flavour of Judaism, right? I mean, the uber-elite practice horrific Satanic rituals that stem from Judaism. Sad but true.
(3) I asked (and pointed out that it was not a rhetorical question, because I know nothing about any of these people) if the Rothschilds are held to be the granddaddy of them all and the rest on a lower level (i.e. supporting your thesis that it is a Jewish conspiracy, despite most of the families on that list not appearing to be Jewish.
Well, first off, that was an overly difficult sentence for one to sift a question out of.
Secondly, I never said that there is a “Jewish conspiracy.”
I don’t know exactly how they structure their pyramid but I do know that dual Israeli-American power-brokers all over DC are traitors to America and to mankind. That I know.
Statistically, they should run virtually nothing. (How many dual-citizens can there even be?). Yet they run everything. They ran Covid & the Jabs. They were the Brian Epstein of the band and their big hits.
Rulo says that he knows all sorts of regular-guy Jews. Me too. Regular-guy Jews are like our gracious host or Jon who I will dine with for the first time in four years on Dec. 4.
But the 1% of the 1% and the 1% of that. They mean us harm.
Ah ! Speaking of that —
If I READ EVERYTHING I really would be here all day.
And I would have less time to stalk people pointlessly , and less time to read my own stuff !
So , no , I had no idea you had a girlfriend OG , and a hottie too it sounds.
— back to the subject.
Marina is wonderful, thanks KA. I first met her when I was employed as a dishwasher in her family’s Greek restaurant back when we were in high school (circa 1981-82).
I am a very lucky man.
The Jews are far better at team work than we are with our fantasies of ultimate individualism. You don’t get rich alone. You need a team. They were already fully part of our “teams”, our nations. But we weren’t part of their international financial networks. So the smart money Whites betrayed their nations and people to get in on this. If they hadn’t, they would have been left out in the cold. How unbearable!
How deep are “we” allowed in? Some non-Italians rose up to high levels in the Mafia, but only under the auspices of a “made man”. Non-Italians could never be made men – even if they wielded much authority. It was borrowed from their mentor. Is it like that? There is evidence that it may not be, not entirely. Competing Elites even within Oceania? Trouble in the Capstone? Or two different ones, one overtly Jewish and one Satanist – open to all, but you must sacrifice everything. Whites sacrificed their people. So must Jews – in this Capstone.
You must have really bummed out when Stormfront was taken down.
At least we know where you would have been in 1939.
Nope. I never even heard of it. Only the stupid constantly assume incorrectly. It’s a horrible way to go through life.
We sure do: I’d be the guy with the camera recording what really happened and helping my good friend Jon.
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You make awful accusations against people who are simply seeking the truth. Shame on you, JackStraw.
This whole, “We got picked on 85 years ago and 4,000 miles away. Therefore you can’t criticize any member of our tribe today. Otherwise, you are Hitler.” shit has become more than tiresome already, fyi.
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Could he BE any more ad hommy?
But there is another fortress, greater and more strong…..
Tolkien
Grr , I have Mass today , and then Church Thanksgiving dinner ,
but you’re wearing me out !
Oh well.
I gotta admit he was a really good writer.
But from page 1 I wanted to see the Dark Lord.
After three volumnes ; No Dark Lord !
aaaagggghhhh !!
Some girl , actually a girl from a Catholic School , and that’s like Harvard , so it has to be gold , told me you meet him plenty in the Silmarillion.
I held the book in my hands in a library once , but that was all.
So maybe the girl was full of Shit ? I wouldn’t know.
I don’t think it is any coincidence that the Dark Lord IS IN THE FIRST SCENE of the movie.
Schindler’s List was cool , oddly , the first movie I recall that humanized Nazis.
— except that last hour ? Or it seems like an hour.
OK , cry , say goodbye , say goodbye , we gotta go pee.
Enough already ! Get to the porn , get down to it , or say goodbye !
The Lord of the Rings , both book and movie ,
is loooooong tearful goodbyes about every twenty minutes.
Come to think of it , they should have put them in Soviet era costume , because the parting of Russian families and friends is like that.
Anyway , here again I’m saying , ” OK , have an orgy or something , otherwise get back to chopping off heads and shit. ”
Now , ” The Hobbit ” was a masterpiece.
You got the Hobbitt scumbag , the gang of Dwarf scumbags ,
it’s off to see the Wizard — Maybe the Wizard of Oz actually plagiarized Tolkien ?
And in the end —- the payoff !!
Not just a dragon , but this dragon is totally bad – ass !
In the movie he looks really good .
But in the book his character is superior I think. For all I know the movie copies the conversation between Bilbo and Smaug word – for – word ? It has been a long time since I read it.
But I recall their conversation seemed fascinating when I read it .
And that’s my book report.
Have a nice day, KesaAnna
“Lord Jesus Christ, who said to your Apostles: Peace I leave you, my peace I give you; look not on our sins, but on the faith of your Church, and graciously grant her peace and unity in accordance with your will..”
🙂
The orcs were created by Sauron tormenting elf prisoners in his dungeons, forcing them to breed with goblins, or letting goblins rape elven maidens. We all know monsters want blondes. American horror taught us that.
Saruman continued, somehow creating the Uruk Hai, larger and more resistant to sunlight. Did he breed orcs with humans? The mind shudders.
I normally never post things of this length here, but it seems appropriate given the sideshows vying for our attention as the digital wallet is approved in the EU and various Western nations begin codifying laws that will enslave us as the same old “us against them” hysteria is whipped up again.
From the Davos Beast itself (long since deleted on their site):
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Welcome to 2030. I own nothing, have no privacy, and life has never been better
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“Now I can hardly believe that we accepted congestion and traffic jams.” Image: REUTERS/Nicky Loh
Ida Auken, Member of Parliament, Parliament of Denmark (Folketinget)
Welcome to the year 2030. Welcome to my city — or should I say, “our city”. I don’t own anything. I don’t own a car. I don’t own a house. I don’t own any appliances or any clothes.
It might seem odd to you, but it makes perfect sense for us in this city. Everything you considered a product, has now become a service. We have access to transportation, accommodation, food and all the things we need in our daily lives. One by one all these things became free, so it ended up not making sense for us to own much.
First communication became digitized and free to everyone. Then, when clean energy became free, things started to move quickly. Transportation dropped dramatically in price. It made no sense for us to own cars anymore, because we could call a driverless vehicle or a flying car for longer journeys within minutes. We started transporting ourselves in a much more organized and coordinated way when public transport became easier, quicker and more convenient than the car. Now I can hardly believe that we accepted congestion and traffic jams, not to mention the air pollution from combustion engines. What were we thinking?
Sometimes I use my bike when I go to see some of my friends. I enjoy the exercise and the ride. It kind of gets the soul to come along on the journey. Funny how some things seem never seem to lose their excitement: walking, biking, cooking, drawing and growing plants. It makes perfect sense and reminds us of how our culture emerged out of a close relationship with nature.
“Environmental problems seem far away”
In our city we don’t pay any rent, because someone else is using our free space whenever we do not need it. My living room is used for business meetings when I am not there.
Once in awhile, I will choose to cook for myself. It is easy — the necessary kitchen equipment is delivered at my door within minutes. Since transport became free, we stopped having all those things stuffed into our home. Why keep a pasta-maker and a crepe cooker crammed into our cupboards? We can just order them when we need them.
Have you read?
2030: the rise of compassion, or a world of warships and walls?
What will we eat in 2030?
What will we eat in 2030?
This also made the breakthrough of the circular economy easier. When products are turned into services, no one has an interest in things with a short life span. Everything is designed for durability, repairability and recyclability. The materials are flowing more quickly in our economy and can be transformed to new products pretty easily. Environmental problems seem far away, since we only use clean energy and clean production methods. The air is clean, the water is clean and nobody would dare to touch the protected areas of nature because they constitute such value to our well being. In the cities we have plenty of green space and plants and trees all over. I still do not understand why in the past we filled all free spots in the city with concrete.
The death of shopping
Shopping? I can’t really remember what that is. For most of us, it has been turned into choosing things to use. Sometimes I find this fun, and sometimes I just want the algorithm to do it for me. It knows my taste better than I do by now.
When AI and robots took over so much of our work, we suddenly had time to eat well, sleep well and spend time with other people. The concept of rush hour makes no sense anymore, since the work that we do can be done at any time. I don’t really know if I would call it work anymore. It is more like thinking-time, creation-time and development-time.
“They live different kinds of lives outside of the city”
For a while, everything was turned into entertainment and people did not want to bother themselves with difficult issues. It was only at the last minute that we found out how to use all these new technologies for better purposes than just killing time.
My biggest concern is all the people who do not live in our city. Those we lost on the way. Those who decided that it became too much, all this technology. Those who felt obsolete and useless when robots and AI took over big parts of our jobs. Those who got upset with the political system and turned against it. They live different kind of lives outside of the city. Some have formed little self-supplying communities. Others just stayed in the empty and abandoned houses in small 19th century villages.
Once in awhile I get annoyed about the fact that I have no real privacy. No where I can go and not be registered. I know that, somewhere, everything I do, think and dream of is recorded. I just hope that nobody will use it against me.
All in all, it is a good life. Much better than the path we were on, where it became so clear that we could not continue with the same model of growth. We had all these terrible things happening: lifestyle diseases, climate change, the refugee crisis, environmental degradation, completely congested cities, water pollution, air pollution, social unrest and unemployment. We lost way too many people before we realised that we could do things differently.
Originally published at http://www.weforum.org.
https://medium.com/world-economic-forum/welcome-to-2030-i-own-nothing-have-no-privacy-and-life-has-never-been-better-ee2eed62f710
Apologies for the intro text jumble. Never know how the formatting will come out here.
War in the ME is a “sideshow” and the WEF’s progress is the only thing that matters.
Got it. Anything else?
***
Zilcher is at a symphony. He loves the strings generally and the violins specifically. He dislikes it when those around him enjoy the percussion or the horns.
“Don’t listen to that noise,” he argues. “Just listen to the strings. I’m really, really smart and that’s what I do.”
If you are 58, Night Owl might be younger than you.
You could just call out his argumentative fallacy. In fact, if this happened more often, we’d have less of the OG-style schlock to sift through.
Does anyone think the digital ID and control structure is not the preeminent issue we face right now?
It is the one thing that truly threatens us all, even retards like OG. We stand on the precipice of global slavery.
It certainly seems an important issue, especially from my anarchist perch. The last thing I want is yet more attempts by gov’t and cronies and assorted ‘higher-ups’ to control me/us. In fact that’s probably a large part of the recipe for collapse– attempts at illegitimate top-down control.
I forget precisely what I was getting at with my age-related comment, but perhaps it was the idea of cutting the younger one’s some slack.
“It is the one thing that truly threatens us all, even retards like OG.” ~ Night Owl
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Speaking of fallacies, here’s a challenge for you, if you want to take it up of course. It’s hard to do and often feels like swimming upstream, but I’ve been working on it for a long time and it has gotten easier and has had some fringe benefits as well:
Simply, focus on the message rather than the messenger, despite the temptations.
So, at worst, if not ideally, describing someone’s comments as retarded would be fair game in this context.
Not too long ago, if recalled, elysianfield suggested at one point that my comments bordered on the ad hom. In a sense, they’re correct in that they only bordered, but didn’t cross it.
On ad homs:
My policy has always been to engage in the manner that I am engaged. I have no interest in going deeper with anyone shallow enough to begin with insults, straw men, or any other tactic typical of the handful of nonces on this board.
What is the point? As with Convid and all the little Eichmanns who came out of the woodwork, nature always sorts things out in its own way and time.
Zaz starts to get a little bored. Finds the music isn’t quite to his taste and the bass is too low as usual he things in mild frustration. So he excuses himself to go to the men’s room but instead wanders around the theatre and somehow ends up behind the curtain in the back of the stage. There, he peeks through and enjoy’s the new perspective as he slowly sips his champagne he just purchased in the front.
A few of the audience members in the front row notice and Zaz lifts his champagne glass and gestures it forward as a blown kiss…
‘Lots more bass from back here for some reason too.’ he mutters to himself. He decides that it might be that the bassists are closer and that the floor, itself, reverberates some of it as well.
Suddently, in through the door he previously went through walks a security guard in his direction…
“In our city we don’t pay any rent, because someone else is using our free space whenever we do not need it. My living room is used for business meetings when I am not there.” ~ from Night Owl’s quoted article
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Wait what?
What about my bed? Who’s in my bed?
^^ Whataboutism ^^
In days gawn by, according to films of the time, some of the seriously under-housed would share a room – and a bed – with a complete stranger, one sleeping while the other worked his shift. Sometimes they wouldn’t know about this arrangement until they accidentally bumped into their bed-share mate.
It sort of took off again, in the UK, with Eastern European migrants picking cabbages in Norfolk.
Having said that, I recall my mother saying that she and her younger sister shared a bed right through their teenage years. My mother didn’t get married until she was 31 (unusual in those days), so I don’t know if there was a period in between when she had a bed of her own. In the event, she eventually had a bed of her own, not to her liking, when my father died. She had no idea, at the tender age of 62 (he died at 69) that her widowhood (26 years) would last nearly as long as her marrage (30 years).
Sesame Street – Ernie plans for bed
youtu.be/u3t_tT98j70?si=4XeEh97vDHFImdx0
🙂 🙂
What about Heinz? It’s not blood it’s ketchup!
Ketchup is a vegetable.
Vegetables are good
Therefore war is good
Since it increases ketchup.
Hunter Biden 2024 Presidential Candidate
Perfect.
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Spot the difference:
September 4, 2023 blog title: Party! Party!
November 10, 2023 blog title: Party, Party !
Some more of that ‘new research’ that seems to be coming out all the time just now (generally to indicate some thing that we just never knew gave us cancer, strokes or heart attacks).
This time it’s vitamins.
msn.com/en-gb/health/medical/taking-vitamins-may-help-tumours-to-grow-new-research-suggests/ar-AA1gcvKO
“Taking vitamin or mineral supplements could be feeding tumours and allowing them to grow, suggests new research.
Common antioxidants such as vitamins A, C, and selenium and zinc when taken additionally can all cause blood vessels in cancer to grow.
The discovery has come as a surprise as antioxidants were believed to be protective.”
So, you didn’t know. And now you do. Beware vitamins – and any supplement, in particular, that the Resistance docs are recommending as a palliative to the safe and effective.
Fortunately, going by the comments, the readership ain’t falling for it.
Although I guess the silent majority don’t comment and don’t read comments?
The comatose majority is now slowing emerging from their slumber.
I don’t know, I often classify vitamin-supplements under “suspect modern medical tripe.”
IIRC, GA, WEF clown Trudeau is in the process of trying to outlaw supplements.
😀
Well, NO, I kind of thought they’d either get rid of them or buy up the producers and adulterate the supplements with something ‘safe and effective’.
I think the supplement market is one of the most unregulated, IIRC.
Most of the trusted brands are tiny outfits, from what I have seen.
I could well imagine that someone taking a Centrum product might be ingesting poison. They have to be somewhere on the globocap distribution tree.
President Trump’s Last Rally Speech
Yesterday President Trump gave his last rally speech. Hmmm, I wonder why..? Could it be that the full force of the storm is about to be unleashed on the [D]eep [S]tate…?? He is now free to head back to Cheyenne Mountain base and watch the fireworks from a safe vantage point. Q said: ‘POTUS is 100% insulated…’
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This shit is getting real. Be sure to have lots of popcorn for The Greatest Show on Earth.
OG,
And where do you get this information on Trump’s last rally?
I would hope you are correct but, I heard it on the internet at times doesn’t cut it!
Honestly, I support TRUMP, but the deck is stacked against him.
We are living in a world of greed and corruption!
My Federal Representative here in PA voted against Jim Jordan, voted for John Boehner, for House Speaker and the other day voted to fund the multi-million-dollar complex for the FBI and yes, he’s a REPUBLICAN! He did vote for the new speaker that makes me suspect of the new guy.
Ay, there’s the rub. If MSM are a tool of the DS and you will only believe things if they appear on MSM, then you have no pathway to the truth.
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Of course my internet sources could be wrong. In fact, you had me quickly Google that President Trump is scheduled to speak at Fort Dodge, IA on Saturday, Nov. 18. While it is not technically a Trump rally, it’s not Cheyenne either.
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Have you seen The Greatest Show on Earth? If not, I suggest that you take a giant huff of hopium …
rumble.com/v3gx680-the-greatest-show-on-earth-2023.html
lol..i see you’re smoking doobies again 😉
Hey Heckler!
Check out the Edmonton Oilers’ new head coach!
thehockeynews.com/news/edmonton-oilers-fire-coach-jay-woodcroft-bring-in-kris-knoblauch
Yep, your cousin Kris in the Big Show!
Here in Hartford it’s our loss.
He was hired to turn the Oilers around from a rough start; I wish him well.
Dr. David Martin on the WHO/WEF genocide. From November 11, 2023.
Ties together much of what some of us have talked about and shown over the years, but goes further.
https://rumble.com/v3v3w1x-dr.-david-martin-exposing-genocidal-crimes-and-terrorism-by-the-who-big-pha.html
Powerful stuff.
Thanks for the link. Martin’s always well-spoken and direct.
Gates funds 88% of WHO. Didn’t think it was quite that high.
I made it to the party!! Better late than never 🙂
Here, have a glass of bubbly. 🙂
Cheers …
Thank you Alba!! Give me two lol jk 🙂
Cheers!
Have you not already had a few?
As your virtual bartender, I’ll place an entire bottle or two in the freezer along with some glasses for that frosty appearance for when you blaze a ragged, jagged trail to come to collect another round.
Hence the starlight is soft.
lol, does that mean you like me more when I’m tipsy?
A major milestone is fast approaching… the anniversary of Peter’s call from Florida to his sister Bo stating “I can no longer take care of myself.” That call was made 3 years ago on the day after Thanksgiving, 2020. A lot of water has flowed under the bridge since then.
And how are you feeling about that, Q? It seems like you’ve been kinda quiet lately.
“First-grade teachers in LA suspended and now under investigation after giving students a lesson about the ‘genocide in Palestine’.”
Quite apart from taking sides, why the hell should gov’t teachers, who know next to nothing about political complexities, especially those concerning the Middle East, be ‘teaching’ anyone about it, especially kids?
I remember when grade one was about learning the three Rs — readin’, wRitin’, and rithmatic. Now it’s just one more propaganda mill — first re LGBTQRSIPBGTR ++ and grrrrrl power, and now geopolitics.
Let the poor face-masked tykes get outside and run around, and quit destroying their innocence.
Just stop sending the kids to school is basically where we’re at at this particular point. If you don’t want them basically mkultraed. I heard that in New York City elementary schools they’re essentially mobilizing pro-Palestinian sentiments as well and having the kids do protests and walkouts. They may be teaching the high school students about martyrdom. Joking not joking.
I was a little excited at first but overall i think Speaker Johnson is going to be a big disappointment. But then again, it’s like you say Mr. K. Both parties have essentially become irrelevant. Not in terms of the harm they can do to the people, but in terms of serving as any meaningful change agents for the people. So eventually they will no longer be once the whole thing crashes down. The fact that Mike Johnson said that there is not enough evidence yet to start impeachment proceedings against Joe Biden made me wonder if his name can be found on the Epstein flight logs.
How about opening our southern border? Why don’t they focus on that? That nobody can deny with any credibility.
But of course the same is true of the election and they deny wrong doing there as well.
Shamelessness is the ruling mentality.
So true. They literally are flying random border crossers into the heartland and yet they can’t seem to find direct evidence of wrongdoing. Some people are trying to say that even if all of the House Republicans voted to impeach Joe Biden that enough Republicans in the Senate would go along with Democrats to squash impeachment. And so Mike Johnson is actually trying to focus on what can be done. If that is the case then his messaging is tragic. He could’ve just said “look Joe Biden is a criminal but the Senate won’t let us impeach him”. Now that would have put pressure on the Senate. So i’m afraid he is a RINOcon.
Imagine being crushed like a box by an industrial robot! It seems to me like they kinda go out of their way to say that the robot isn’t a smart robot..
yahoo.com/news/entertainment/south-korean-man-crushed-death-150500933.html/
The robot needs to be charged and put on trial. If found guilty, executed or unplugged.
No, the robot needs to be reprogrammed to attack and kill its maker.
Absolutely! And the robot should be afforded a public defender. Clearly they would argue that the robot is nothing more than a pack and stack machine. How do we know though if the robot is not truly offended by statements like that? There would have to be some sort of test of consciousness to determine that.
A young white kid Jonathon Lewis was killed by 15 other black kids in Las Vegas but you probably haven’t heard about it.
rumble.com/v3vb63w-after-getting-jumped-by-15-thugs-high-school-student-jonathon-lewis-has-die.html
No surprise they don’t identify the race of the ‘yoofs’.
The last Black dude says “that’s not the way to resolve differences”, implying that the White was originally at fault for something. Probably, like the younger Black said, for looking at one of the chimps in a non-subservient way.
And if the colors were the other way around this story would be all the media talked about for at least the next month. They would be able to mobilize the riot industrial complex and merge it with the pro-Palestinian industrial complex into a mega riot quest. Oh well. Maybe next time they are saying.
Yes, this teenager was killed in the most comprehensive way: beaten to death outside his HS. This is violence at it’s most basic, elemental level, just fists & boots. Even paleolithic hominids would use spears and stones to bring down their prey. These Las Vegas honor students haven’t yet reached that level.
He apparently agitated them by trying to save a friend who probably would’ve gone down the same way. It appears that certain individuals are devolving to a level less sophisticated than paleolithic hominids. Or perhaps they were never that evolved to begin with.
A protestor exposes the complicity between the climate change movement and the WEF agenda:
“As a climate justice movement, we have to listen to the voices of those who are being oppressed and those who are fighting for freedom and for justice. Otherwise, there can be no climate justice without international solidarity,” Thunberg said.
A man [then] came onto the stage and told her: “I have come here for a climate demonstration, not a political view,” before he was ushered off.
Darn you beat me to that one lol 😛
And here I am trying to be all newsroomy and everything lol
Ha! It’s impossible to keep up-to-date with all the insanity.
Definitely true!!
“Stop the insanity!” ~ Susan Powter
Greta is rudely interrupted, but not for long. She smirks as her underlings “handle” the problem.
rumble.com/v3vb6k5-greta-thunberg-gets-interrupted-as-fed-up-dude-grabs-the-mic.html
For benr if he is looking in. Don’t let the military make you eat radioactive seafood.
naturalnews.com/2023-11-12-government-japanese-seafood-military-fukushima-radiation.html
@SSL
Well aware of this fact so much so I actually stopped surfing in the Pacific Ocean on a weekly basis.
I don’t eat Tuna because it all has levels of radiation they are pretending won’t hurt you.
That and they are over fishing the Tuna to the point of resource exhaustion.
\\\\https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2012/05/30/153925233/nuclear-tuna-is-hot-news-but-not-because-its-going-to-make-you-sick
What they are not telling you is that radiation damage is additive like lead poisoning it adds up over time.
Living in California I already get exposed to a certain amount of uranium breathing in dusty air stirred up by Santa Ana winds.
If you haven’t been feeling all that great this weekend it might be because of the solar storms. Things will be getting better by tomorrow so don’t get blue. 🙂
endtimeheadlines.org/2023/11/earth-to-experience-red-level-magnetic-storms-all-this-week/
I heard a news story this morning saying that communities are asking people hot to decorate for Christmas with Red or Green since these colors indicate support of HAMAS, In another story, K-Mart was selling storage bags for your Christmas ham labeled HAM-MAS.
Only in America my friends!
Terrorism: putting the ham in Christ!
K-Mart still exists?
Just the other day, I caught myself wondering if Avon still existed.
Anyone remember Wacky Packages?
– Hipton Tea- ‘gives you the energy to hitchhike and loaf’
– Mice-a-Roni- ‘a very mice flavour’
…Or Koogle peanut spread? ‘Peanutty Koogle’
…Or the hair gel, Dippity-Do?
Avon Skin-so-Soft is epic for deterring Scottish midges and other little bitey creatures. The British Army swears by it.
independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-marine-commandos-moisturiser-repel-insects-jungle-desert-deet-repellent-a7904086.html
Festive Cranberry Egg Nog
‘Adaptive reuse’ is also a term in architecture. I presume another name for ‘midge’ is ‘black fly’?
I wonder what will work on some kind of aphid-like sucking bug on one of my pepper plants that I dug up from the garden and brought in, along with a couple of lemon verbenas and one basil, for the winter.
BTW, from a right-side margin link from your site (haven’t read its article):
“Dating rule says women shouldn’t sleep with men unless they’ve spent $2k on them”
Sounds like the eighties or thereabouts there too. I prefer this one:
Dating rule’ says women should think twice about following any dubious advice in media columns and listen more to their heart and head.
How’s my MacIntyre clan doing over there, incidentally? Have they yet managed to ditch the sod-roofs and/or crannogs in favour of the likes of the Passivhaus, in which, presumably, our resident Night Owl resides after a long and arduous jaunt along the autobahn?
wikipedia.org/wiki/Crannog
oh yeah that Skin-so-Soft bug guard is the bomb. The mosquitos have been really bad around here lately too. I don’t know why though because it has been so amazingly dry.
lol that is funny, yes Avon is still around. I used to help my mom put together Avon orders back in the day. She sold Avon for a little while. A lot of people would order that Far Away perfume. It smelled pretty good actually but I just can’t do anything too perfumy lol.
I thought when SEARS bought them, they also brought SEARS to the point of extinction as well.
K-Mart was a weird shopping experience as a kid the weird smell of the place popcorn and cherry icee with the blue-plate special bell going off and cheap junk poorly stocked.
K-Mart was the walmart before walmart mixed with the dollar store.
Oh eff that. It looks like i’m having a big ole Hamas Christmas then lol. Wait wat? Where is there a K-Mart?
Hey ! You’re alive ! 🙂
Greta ?
I think when you spoil a child , while it may be a great deal for the child , you are doing a grave disservice to everyone else,
the everyone elses who are going to have to live with that person ever after.
The very worst thing you can do is give a child celebrity , real money , and power.
Near as I can tell , a kid who is beaten with a stick and locked in a closet is less likely to turn out totally fucked up . than , for example , a Hollywood child star.
Another reason I’m not a fan of psychology , this theory that suffering is only a negative , that unconditional love is an absolute good.
No , I disagree.
Some of the best people I ever knew were popped in the mouth by adults so hard they picked themselves up off the floor on the other side of the room.
I’m an old maid theorist , though.
‘You are everything and everything is you.’
…Do we get to call you a ‘cold bitch’ (too) if that’s also one of your self-descriptions or is that only for you to say?
‘Cold old maid bitch theorist’…
You know, I kinda like it… at least in some sense… Like on/in an album or artwork something.
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Blood Bitch
youtu.be/mGgvbxW_XKY?si=tzksC6ZL7tT7iHJ0
Anyone on statins? Look what’s coming your way.
msn.com/en-gb/health/health-news/statins-could-be-replaced-by-gene-therapy-within-years-scientists-say/ar-AA1jOl8E
Just a few years and statins will be replaced by a gene therapy.
Don’t all rush at once – please form an orderly queue …
GA
Already exists. Monoclonal antibodies used in Repatha to shut off the LDL generating proteins in the liver. Not quite gene therapy, antibody therapy.
Repatha, SQ every two weeks, expensive now.
Used for folks, like me, that cannot tolerate statins due to muscle and joint pain.
LDL levels with statins went from 60 up to 95 over five years. Found Repatha, LDL now 30 to 40.
Target for CAD folks, 70.
Was on a statin for three months and it gave me a mild form of dementia.
Which mostly reversed when I dumped them in the trash.
That shit was scary though weird random things like looking for my phone for a half hour and then looking on the table where I had been sitting and there it is.
The connection of that is the phone you are looking for and the phone was not working.
It got so bad my wife asked me what was wrong with me.
I knew something was going on but was not sure exactly what I just knew I was getting frustrated with myself a lot and then I put two and two together it’s that damn statis the doc put me on.
The one I told him I did not want to go on in fact.
” I remember when grade one was about learning the three Rs — readin’, wRitin’, and rithmatic. ”
” I heard that in New York City elementary schools they’re essentially mobilizing pro-Palestinian sentiments ”
I would go back to reading , writing , arithmetic ,
and the history and political science taught , is Greco – Roman history and mythology.
If none can agree to the above ,
then teach the last subject at home , period.
Or , the kid can , at a later date , on their own initiative , go do their own research at the public library.
The last item in my curriculum would be religion .
On this I hasten to elaborate ;
I do not object to Quaker seminaries for Quaker children ,
Moravian seminaries for Moravian children,
Baptist seminaries for Baptist children ,
and I’m even OK with Free Love Atheist – whatever , when after all it is THEIR kid.
The cosmology of your family is the cosmology of YOUR FAMILY.
I think you are very naive to trust , for example , that this Catholic is going to babysit your kid according to your lights.
” Yes, this teenager was killed in the most comprehensive way: beaten to death outside his HS. ”
Yes , I have predicted before that the generic collective is not going to put the welfare , or the safety for that matter , of your son first.
“The pupil is thereby ‘schooled’ to confuse teaching with learning, grade advancement with education, a diploma with competence, and fluency with the ability to say something new. His imagination is ‘schooled’ to accept service in place of value. Medical treatment is mistaken for health care, social work for the improvement of community life, police protection for safety, military poise for national security, the rat race for productive work. Health, learning, dignity, independence, and creative endeavour are defined as little more than the performance of the institutions which claim to serve these ends, and their improvement is made to depend on allocating more resources to the management of hospitals, schools, and other agencies in question.” ~ Ivan Illich, Deschooling Society
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“Someone has written a book about the children and their need for their, just simply, emotional and mental development to have contact with the mountains, with the air, the sea, with the dawn, the sunset, the trees, the birds, the song of the birds. Children that don’t have these experiences have no real idea of the world they live in. They live in a house, in a school, in a city that’s all manufactured. And they begin to be progressively isolated from the basic dynamics of what human life is all about.” ~ Thomas Berry
The Cart-Before-The-Horse Clown World
“Yes , I have predicted before that the generic collective is not going to put the welfare , or the safety for that matter , of your son first.” ~ KesaAnna
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Perhaps you read my mention some time ago about my getting asked to leave by a few (apparently 20 or 30- somethings) at a teahouse knitting meetup because I had the gaul to suggest that much of the raising of our children is essentially outsourced.
It’s a bit, too, like Derrick Jensen in a You Tube video suggesting that our experience of water often comes from the tap and so it can erode our appreciation for the critical importance of water and therefore how we treat it.
Same thing with large-scale government versus real local tight-knit community and with large-scale industrial/distant/removed agro versus local resilient, regenerative farming/gardening/agro practices.
These are, or along the lines of, what I call ‘drags’ on society, so that it’s like trying to cut through the wind with a sail completely facing it.
In short, our culture is seriously anti- or counter-aerodynamic.
“because I had the gaul to suggest that much of the raising of our children is essentially outsourced.”
Do you take your Gaul everywhere with you to speak on your behalf?
Sorry, couldn’t resist – I think you meant gall. 🙂
I feel like if I hear one more thing about the Greek city-states and the Roman Empire i’ll literally scream. But every day is ground hog day in a way so it is what it is. Your theory is quite literal. Of course no one is going to take care of your children the way you would. But even though that reality is what it is it still should not be the case that public schools are such dangerous places. In other words, society is sick or maybe it is simply just a lack of society altogether.
” ‘Cold old maid bitch theorist’ ”
Lol , since you mention it ,
I never warmed to the idea of we all calling each other by our first names , as if we are all buddies , relatives , and equals ,
when we are not.
( the internet is a different ballgame / context. Usernames are simple , and aren’t strictly first names , personal names , intimate and familiar names , anyway. )
I greatly preferred the practice where first names are reserved for relatives. and intimates . a personal possession for you to hand out as you see fit , or not.
All others , young or old , superior or subordinate ,
are addressed as Mr. Mrs. Miss.
This is another one of my micro – boycotts ,
while , as I have said , I can be a very good ass – kisser in real life ,
it has been YEARS , and can be counted on only two hands ,
the number of times I have ever addressed someone by first name.
I call everyone , hopefully subtly , ” You ” in daily life.
To answer your question ;
” ‘Cold old maid bitch theorist’
…Do we get to call you a ‘cold bitch’ (too) if that’s also one of your self-descriptions or is that only for you to say? ”
I’m fine with it. 🙂
If you want to piss me off and offend the shit out of me ,
use my first name without my permission.
But then , you won’t be getting my first name from me , anyway.
Hope all that makes sense.
A bit more on the topic ;
My experience age 4 ( ? ) to the present is two people spend every moment together , eat out of the same bowl , finish each others sentences , maybe even play doctor.
Then the other person learns , for example , that you prefer your coffee with cream.
Two seconds later ;
Perhaps you will see that person again in Heaven ?
Again , why ” Like ” and ” dislike ” do not have a great deal of significance to me.
Hatchet – Job biographies INTENDED to put a person on the scaffold are one thing.
But slurs like Nigger or Nazi , etc , etc ,
don’t register particularly high with me.
Popularity is fickle , as likewise hatred , too , can be no guarantee.
The Blue Jay And The Pelican
That seems consistent if you’re fine with slurs toward you.
But it might depend on context and if it shifts for you because you know someone outside of your context/understanding who introduces new ones.
And maybe it surprises you of your novel and unexpected reaction to it and where you learn something about yourself that another had to teach– another who wasn’t joined at your hip and eating from the same bowl.
IOW, sometimes pelican might be able to tell a blue jay more about itself than another blue jay.
Fair enough. And we differ here at least, as you might expect of an anarchist who of course believes in relative equity.
As a hoot and a thumb-my-nose to that sort of thing, long ago when I was a lifeguard at a small outside summer pool, I got the kids to call me Mr. Lifeguard.
So that’s what they called me, all summer long. At first it was funny, but we all got used to it. They knew my real name but preferred Mr. Lifeguard because they knew why I had them call me that. Kids are far more sophisticated than some adults seem to give them credit.
It’s funny how we don’t fundamentally change in many ways now that I think about it, because that’s a similar spirit in my nickname hereon as a tongue-in-cheek fuck you to the system that wants to hypnotize everyone to call certain men, women.
KA and Zaz…you two really need to get your own blog. You’re like a couple of teenagers living in Jimbo’s basement.
“You’re like a couple of teenagers living in Jimbo’s basement.” ~ tom clark
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That might be fun. We could help Jim compose the articles that you continue reading and commenting on.
But I want the attic.
Warm air rises , so you can have it.
Hmm , you could maybe put in a sizeable bathroom in a basement , and still have a little room left over for my 26 Barbie Dolls , and my books. My books sit around in stacks anyway. There are too many of them , and who can afford even the minimum bookshelf space ?
And where would I go ? We are headed into Winter , It’s the Heat of Spring / Summer that I am concerned about sleeping in the back yard.
I believe in life after death with air conditioning.
( And cigarettes of course. )
You’re going to have to lower your expectations. Do you expect everything is simply summoned when you wish it to be? Start again. Maybe you should stay in the attic after all. In fact, it sounds like a perfect arrangement. Zaz, bring your stuff downstairs. Somebody thinks their a celebrity over here. 🙂
Garbled writing .
I meant , at least as long as it is cold , I can sleep in the backyard.
I’m not worried about hypothermia or pnuemonia.
But a first – rate bathroom , and my stuff , is paramount.
Until the sun comes.
Then it’s that Anne Rice shit.
” I like you. ”
— Paula D
Wow , thanks. I think very highly of you.
” Ignore benr, he’s deliberately mean. ”
It may depend there again on how you look at it.
Maybe others do have a different view of it ? But I have always considered writing a form of exhibitionist activity.
Like , for example , your attitude is NOT , ” Hey , look me over ! ” ?
You DON’T like showing off your thighs and a winking , winking glance at your butt every few ,
and a really cute outfit ?
Then maybe Cheerleader is a bad choice of ambition ?
But , I suppose different folks see the same thing different ways.
Anyway ,
of course I actually preferred the wacky , wonky , Soviet ” Aircraft Carrier ” Kiev.
Still , even his teams aircraft carriers are splendid – looking boats.
So I’m actually impressed with Benr .
If he is not impressed with me ? Grrr , I’m 57 years – of disappointment – old. 🙂
So don’t cry for me Argentina.
I’m currently topped – out on cigarettes = Easy street. 🙂
” Maybe others do have a different view of it ? But I have always considered writing a form of exhibitionist activity. ”
It certainly doesn’t PAY in this case.
If folks don’t like the FREE entertainment ?
Again , I’m not getting paid here.
Oh don’t get so touchy, Kesa. tom, is being a grump cuz its beddy bye time for him. I haven’t formed my thoughts in response to your question about writing being an exhibitionist activity yet. You know that is ok too. It’s ok not to have an answer for everything. I imagine that some people also write because they feel as if there is a message or story that they need to get out to others. I imagine others write to figure themselves out. And of course that would mean others are writing in order to figure the world out. You see how many ways it could possibly go.
OK , read the comments section top to bottom so I didn’t miss anything.
I think.
Tom ? Coincidentally ? I imagine the cutest little brown teddy bear sitting on a bed .
His portrait that is.
Not derogatory at all , though he might take it that way .
Nice people I rate above all others.
A plush brown teddy bear at that. Just remember a bear can maul and bite you if agitated. otherwise he’s cute as a button 🙂
” Marina ”
— OG
You shit me !
Outside of my family , my only childhood bestie. Mein Sonnenmadchen
Marina is my favorite name .
One of my classmates in middle school was named Marina.
Well , I also absolutely adore ;
Cassie
Winnie
Lisa
Natalie
I’m forgetting something.
You’re wearing me out ! 🙂
was that South Louisiana perhaps ?
Kelly. And Carol.
Well , after 8 hours of Church I had another errand.
M3gan looks cool.
So off to Wal – Mart .
Wal – Mart is bound to have that subversive , culture – destroying Anti – American shit.
— Until it gets my seal of approval .
Then it is the product of Russian , Syrian , North Korean , Hexbollan , Gazan Hackers .
So I’ll spare the money , cause it looks cool.
First movie I have bought since ………. the 1980’s ?
So I get home.
Grrr , they stopped putting disk – drives in computers ?
It’s a plot against me.
So then it is off to CFN , to waite for Layla.
……….
” Do you expect everything is simply summoned when you wish it to be? ”
You showed , didn’t you ?
So I can’t complain after all.
Now I’m sleepy .
—- But I gotta go visit Gaza first.
Bye.
It’s actually a good movie. Do you do streaming at all? It’s available on Amazon Prime.
Good nite sleep tight don’t let the bed bugs bite
💖
USB DVD players are cheap down to 30 bucks.
I’d like to know where I can find a good cassette player. Most of what I see are pure trash and Chinese knockoffs of Chinese-made players, once made under license from legit companies, like JVC and Sony.
For that you will need to look at garage sales and pawn shops.