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Light in the Darkness

“I hope you realise the ideological brain worms possessing group narcissists preclude condemnation of anything done in the name of the cause no matter how evil. The ends justify the means — no matter how depraved. This is why you can’t reason with them. Ideology binds and blinds.” — Aimee Therese on X

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       The sun is low on the horizon all day long now, and darkness creeps in like a home invasion of your mind. Demons descend through a red and black sky and no help is on the way. Our country is so mentally hog-tied trying to unravel the twisted events of just a few years past that it has no mojo left for rationally anticipating the events of just a few years ahead. Have you ever felt more alone?

       This is the end-process that we’ve been softened up for: the inability to think and plan. The gigantic “intel community” evolved from something intended to act as sensitized antennae for detecting threats against our republic into what is now a remorseless mind-fucking operation against our republic. That word, by the way, derives from the Latin res publica: the public thing, a society that literally belongs to the people, who decide its affairs. Now, so much is mysteriously decided for us, and not in any good way.

      It’s no wonder more than half the country can’t think straight, and it’s a whopping irony that this group comprises most of our country’s thinking class —the bureaucratic managers, the professors, the curators, the editors, the reporters lost in mis-reporting. This group used to play a critical role in the res publica: to earnestly determine what is true and what is real, and to present us with a way of understanding all that so we can think and plan. They appear to be captured by malign forces. The scribes are hard at work defending every act of official malice. The dishonesty at work is epic. You need a decoder ring to keep your mind right.

      You are probably desperate to understand why this is happening — how, for instance, a blatantly corrupt and ignorant attorney general in New York state can get away with bringing a politically-motivated nonsense case against the leading presidential candidate in a courtroom ruled by a judge who acts like a jester in a Shakespeare play. New York AG Letitia James gets away with it because the flagship organ of the thinking class, The New York Times, is in on the gambit. But why?

     We struggle to sort this out. One explanation is that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has infiltrated the management of our country at every level so as to eventually conquer our territory for its resources while eliminating or enslaving the population. Surely, the CCP has made significant inroads, starting with the successful bribery and compromise of “Joe Biden,” probably other elected officials, too, in placing many CCP agents in the vast array of university research departments, NGOs, PACs, and lobbying gangs, and extending to the purchase of vital businesses and farmland to prepare the gameboard for eventual takeover. My opinion is they’ve accomplished a good bit of this, but it’s not the answer you’re seeking.

      Another popular idea out there is that a sinister cartel or cabal composed of the World Economic Forum, the WHO, the EU, and a claque of super-rich megalomaniacs (e.g., Bill Gates, George Soros, Mark Zuckerberg) trying to usher in the so-called “transhumanist” next chapter of human history. This scheme is so full of preposterous contradictions that it remains hard to take seriously. The main one is that their engineered collapse of techno-industrial civilization would destroy the very network of complex systems that might support their supposed cyborg nirvana, especially a reliable electric grid. Secondarily, collapse would result not in centralizing power but just the opposite, re-localizing power away from the center, negating the possibility of global rule.

      A third theory is that the USA has somehow gone “communist.” The universities have, for sure, but in a most half-assed way imaginable that presents more as a case of collective mental illness than a true political ideology. Higher education has lately enjoyed stupendous subsidies and revenues that funnel down to the miserable cat-ladies who have taken over the faculty department chairs, plus the deans and president’s offices. The Niagara of grants and lavish salaries has funded the dissemination of incoherent cat-lady ideas, such as the foundational notion that all men are hopelessly defective except the ones who pretend to be women or vice-versa. Such postulations lead to ridiculous actions like the drag queen story hour, or men competing in women’s swim competitions. These actions-and-effects are “communistic” only insofar as they induce some Marxist-Gramscian overthrow of normality (i.e., a coherent cultural consensus) in order to usher in the utopia of perfect social equity, where nobody is allowed to do better than anybody else — that is, a society of cat-ladies (plus men pretending to be cat-ladies), all equally miserable.

     Are the editors and reporters of The New York Times all bought off by the CCP, Soros, Gates? I doubt it. That’s not what’s going on here. And the same goes for the Intel Community, much of the rest of the executive branch of the US government, the various “blue” state and blue city governments, and the great social media companies. Are all the employees of these vast bureaucracies dedicated communists?  Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha….

     What’s going on is that all these players are now desperate to evade the blame for and consequences of their many crimes. Hundreds of top bureaucrats and elected officials will be liable for prosecution for monstrous acts of perfidy and treason against our republic and its citizens. The New York Times and other compliant news outlets that lied about everything from Russian collusion to election fraud to the safety of Covid-19 vaccines to protect their fumbling allies in power are desperate to save their reputations — though that will be impossible as the truth eventually unfolds, and it will. Their knowing lies did real and lasting harm to the public thing.

     Take heart in these darkening days. The light will not be extinguished. It will return, as everything does in this universe of endless cycles. A nation turned upside down will find its feet again. The wicked will answer. The counter-revolution has begun. You are not alone.

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691 Responses to “Light in the Darkness”

  1. Socrates-Detroit November 13, 2023 at 9:36 am #

    So all of this chaos is just random “bad” entropy? Or is it guided by some people, or some thing or some spirit? I say the latter.

    • TPTB-USA November 13, 2023 at 10:51 am #

      I believe that the key to making sense of all the nonsense is to look at the facts and issues from the perspective that the existing format for life, with various customs, laws, and agreements, is crippling a transition to the new efficient high tech living arrangement that is envisioned by the 2030 Agenda. So, to get from here to there, those in charge are playing by a NWO set of rules.

      • TPTB-USA November 13, 2023 at 11:08 am #

        “At a June World Economic Forum virtual event, Kerry said the coronavirus pandemic was “a big moment” that opened the door for the Great Reset and that, “The World Economic Forum – the CEO capacity of the Forum – is really going to have to play a front and center role in refining the Great Reset to deal with climate change and inequity — all of which is being laid bare as a consequence of COVID-19.””

        Think in terms of the WEF being the think tank for the generation of all the nonsense play books, essentially guidelines on how to create and use issues as opportunities to resolve insurmountable obstacles.

        • hmuller November 13, 2023 at 11:36 am #

          Speaking of the WEF, I see their loyal minion, former PM and pig fucker (yes, Google it) David Cameron has returned to government as Foreign Minister.

          His predecessor, Ms Braverman (Jewish?) was too pro-Israel for the tastes of the current jihadi British PM.

          • TPTB-USA November 13, 2023 at 11:49 am #

            It doesn’t take much speculation to make sense of all the nonsense.

          • GreenAlba November 13, 2023 at 12:12 pm #

            Suella Braverman (actually born Sue-Ellen, after the one in Dallas, apparently) isn’t Jewish, although her husband is.

            As for Cameron coming back, words fail. Next thing, we’ll be getting Blair, although he’s very busy aspiring to replace Klaus, in due course, and running his Institute for Global Change or whatever it’s called – and specifically trying to persuade the world that it needs a global digital ID. If anyone ever cashed in for committing an evil act, it’s Blair. It shows in his face too.

            A little reminder of what some of these people were like when they were in the Bullingdon Club. You should be able to pick out Cameron. Bogbrush Boris is instantly recognisable.


          • GreenAlba November 13, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

            Also, the current British PM is a Hindu (technically, anyway).

          • pyrrhus November 13, 2023 at 1:45 pm #

            Braverman was also a warmongering nitwit, so she was replaced by a less offensive nitwit….

        • TPTB-USA November 13, 2023 at 11:47 am #

          Is/was this an insurmountable obstacle?

          The Ben Gurion Canal Project – Declassified Documents Reveal Truth

          • Yirgach November 13, 2023 at 4:02 pm #

            From the Armstrong article:

            “Follow the money, always. The West does not want Egypt and, therefore, Russia to have control over world trade and the movement of goods.”

            There it is, Martin is correct.

            Thanks for the link!

        • TPTB-USA November 16, 2023 at 2:56 am #



          … Destruction of law and order
          … No compensation/justice for shop owners
          … Store closures due to the financial loss and a decline in business

          2030 Agenda Benefits
          … Climate Change
          …… Reduce the number of stores
          …… Condition people for online shopping, 15 minute cities, eliminate need for personal transportation
          …… Destroy poor communities with energy inefficient single family dwellings and outdated utility infrastructure (this has the potential to resolve insurmountable obstacles, like high speed rail, and the cost of new utility infrastructure versus the cost of upgrading the existing)

          … Inequity
          …… The criminal becomes the victim, so the concept of morality is meaningless

          … Transition
          …… Force people to change their current mode of operation, and make the glide-path to the 2030 mode of operation the path of least resistance

    • mitchellc November 13, 2023 at 10:58 am #

      The thesis is that actions taken today are motivated by the “cover up”. But Jim doesnt speculate why the initial crimes were committed in the first place.

      He also doesn’t consider the older, bloodline families who have controlled western policy for 500 years, including banking, commerce and military affairs.

      That acknowledgement would shatter belief in sel determination, and force an analysis of whether a republic actually existed in any way effecting power.

      My position is, no, it never truly existed, but was a clever front designed as a substitute for an inefficient brute force police state.

      This ruling class well knew the discovery of vast reserves of stored solar energy would be abused by the masses who would exploit this precious resource, so they put into place certain mechanisms to be activated when the party inevitably ended.

      This is where we are today.

      • Paula D November 13, 2023 at 1:16 pm #

        There were no fossil fuels in use at the time of the Constitution’s writing.

        The colonists were busily wiping out the whales and deforesting the eastern coast for their energy.

        • Soul Forensics November 13, 2023 at 6:31 pm #

          Good point, Paula.

          I mentioned something similar when mitch argued that a character’s downfall in Thomas Hardy’s Jude the Obscure prophesied the energy clusterfuck. I pointed out to him that the book was published in 1895, just as the oil boom was in its initial upswing, which, in an extreme inversion, argued against his position.

          For one who likes to lecture the rest of us on historical precedents, he either can’t incorporate the lessons, or is actually clueless, as here, about timelines.

      • pyrrhus November 13, 2023 at 1:47 pm #

        Every study, including one by Princeton, has found that the voters in a “democracy” have no influence on policy…In a dictatorship, they have more influence because the dictator is always afraid he can be replaced..

      • Vegan Shark November 13, 2023 at 9:29 pm #

        He also doesn’t consider the older, bloodline families who have controlled western policy for 500 years, including banking, commerce and military affairs.

        Once certain actual conspiracies are uncovered, part of the malign fallout is that some people want to raise the stakes. No conspiracy, however far-fetched, is too bizarre for proclamation.

    • abbybwood November 13, 2023 at 11:48 am #

      I don’t see how ANYONE in the United States, from Biden to Fauci and everyone in between will ever be indicted for their crimes when the judiciary and FBI have been fully (well almost) captured?!

      The American people are swimming in a sea of lies.

      Take Ukraine for example.

      First they lied when Zelensky made a negotiated settlement with Putin in March 2022 then Biden and Boris Johnson made Zelensky tear up the agreement. “Putin wants to seize ALL of Ukraine then march through Poland and Romania and all the way to the English Channel.” “We‘ll give you all the weapons and money you need to defeat Russia for as long as it takes.” “We will support you to the last Ukrainian!”

      Well, about now 500,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed in the Russian meat grinder. Probably 200,000 are wounded. Now pregnant women are being sent to the front lines by Z. I saw the video of one woman yelling, “Don’t beat me! I’m pregnant!”

      Then the Israel/Gaza war happened and the U.S. high-tailed it off to the Med. And TIME let us know Z is “delusional”.

      And the end game now in Ukraine? Probably Russia will take the rest of the Russian speaking territories including Odessa and a peace deal will be signed on Putin’s terms. No NATO, a Russian military presence in Kiev to make sure there is no re-militarization and the Banderists and AZOV Nazis will be purged out of Ukraine.

      Ukraine a neutral non-NATO state. This is what Z could have achieved without losing 500,000 young Ukrainian men had he just done the deal with Putin in March 2022. Only now Ukraine will be a fallen rump state.

      But the bright side is that all those investments Z made with Blackrock and Monsanto will be gone. And hopefully all the scheming and lying Biden, Blinken, Nuland, Sullivan, Graham and McConnell did will finally come to light when the people see that Putin actually only wanted Ukraine to be de-militarized and de-Nazified with no NATO and neutrality. He never had a desire to reform the old Soviet Union plus all of Europe. Yet another lie.

      They think we are all stupid and are not paying attention. Maybe the iPhone disease will be the cure?

      • Billy Hill November 13, 2023 at 3:15 pm #

        Putin and Lavrov made their position very clear in the draft treaty submitted to the USA in December 2021. No NATO, de-Nazification, civil rights for Russophones. Otherwise business as usual. The USA ignored it.

        What Z and the rest of the sorry cast will receive is maybe a state based around Lvov unless claimed by Poland. Kiev and Odessa will be Russian cities, the Dnieper a Russian river. The New Heartland will progress southwest linking Hungary and Serbia, and sooner or later Romania and Slovakia. The map of Europe in place since the end of WW2 and the Soviet collapse will be replaced in the East with a Eurasian focus. Russia is in no hurry to do this as they are receiving much assistance from Ukraine and the imploding West.

        Poland, as usual, will be caught in the crossfire. It is said (by Poles) that their politicians manage to piss off their neighbors continually until finally the neighbors have had enough and go in and rearrange things. Plus ca change, plus c’est la meme chose.

        • Gail November 14, 2023 at 8:25 am #

          D’accord. Nihil novum sub solum.

    • Heartlander November 13, 2023 at 1:49 pm #

      There are many highly intelligent people who have been leaders in the Covid “Resistance” who, before Covid, were entirely secular people or at least, not very religious. For example, Dr. Mike Yeadon, Dr. Robert Malone, Dr. Bret Weinstein, Dr. Naomi Wolf and Dr. Mark McDonald.

      But when faced with the universal, global, deep, inexplicable psy-op of Covid — with the way that millions of even the previously best, smartest, kindest, most tolerant people turned overnight into callous, cruel, illogical people who were defending and pushing and complying with the most absurd and inhuman policies imaginable — Yeadon, McDonald, Wolf and others concluded that some sort of evil force had cast its pall over the entire world. These people are no longer secular believers. They openly talk about the existence of a real thing called Evil, which Naomi Wolf is open enough to call Satan.

      But the realization that Evil/Satan is real has quickly, necessarily led Yeadon, Wolf, et al. to the affirmation that the counterforce against evil is also objectively real, and that is God, who is all-good.

      What wise people have known for thousands of years is becoming known again by modern, intelligent, formerly secular people: Spiritual warfare is REAL. We saw evil temporarily subdue the whole planet in 2020 and onward. But, awake and aware and no longer naive, people are rising up now with faith in God, who is Truth and Goodness and Beauty, and who is our only hope.

      • hmuller November 14, 2023 at 2:34 pm #

        Well put. I agree.

        Some people have a problem with the whole “Satan concept”, so medieval. But they can believe non-human extra-terrestrial or inter-dimensional intelligent entities exist who could be fucking with us.

        I say potato, and you say po-tah-toe.

      • Anthea November 15, 2023 at 2:54 am #

        @ Heartlander:

        Sometimes it seems like “Truth and Goodness and Beauty” have become a hole-in-corner sort of business. Maybe it was always that way. Nevertheless, a life of modesty and obscurity are your best bet for a satisfying life. While one is “renouncing Satan,” it’s good to remember to renounce “all his pomps.”

        I recently followed a link to Auxilium Christianorum, which is devoted to spiritual warfare. I would join up, but I’m afraid it’s too much praying for me. Here’s one prayer I was impressed with:

        Litany of Humility

        O Jesus, meek and humble of heart,

        Hear me.

        From the desire of being esteemed,

        Deliver me, O Jesus.

        From the desire of being loved…

        From the desire of being extolled …

        From the desire of being honored …

        From the desire of being praised …

        From the desire of being preferred to others …

        From the desire of being consulted …

        From the desire of being approved …

        From the fear of being humiliated …

        From the fear of being despised …

        From the fear of suffering rebukes …

        From the fear of being calumniated …

        From the fear of being forgotten …

        From the fear of being ridiculed …

        From the fear of being wronged …

        From the fear of being suspected …

        That others may be loved more than I, Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.

        That others may be esteemed more than I, Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.

        That in the opinion of the world, others may increase and I may decrease, Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.

        That others may be chosen and I set aside, Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.

        That others may be praised and I unnoticed, Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.

        That others may be preferred to me in everything, Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.

        That others may become holier than I, provided that I become as holy as I should, Jesus, grant me the grace to desire it.

        Some people might think this is a little excessive, but lack of humility is what gets us in the most trouble, I think. Parts of this are also reminiscent of the Prayer of St. Francis–a really good one to call to mind when you feel slighted and neglected.

    • TallTim November 14, 2023 at 4:31 pm #

      We are assuming all human-like creatures are the same. They are not. Look into the ancient Egyptians with elongated skulls- those just ain’t party hats. And they did not just fade away, they moved into the shadows.

      We are the worker drones that are no longer needed to keep the world running. The die-off is part of the plan and I’m not sure there is anything we can do about it.

      But they do need our blood and emotional energy to feed off of. Thus the insatiable drive to sexualize our children. And even darker, the bloodlust to capture, rape, torture, and disembowel far too many innocent children. Pizza anyone?

      • Jarek November 16, 2023 at 1:27 pm #

        Texas Arcane is unforgettable.

    • Hated American November 14, 2023 at 8:03 pm #

      LOL. Yeah, “Trust the plan”.

  2. edpell November 13, 2023 at 9:41 am #

    We are not yet at the bottom.

    • pyrrhus November 13, 2023 at 1:49 pm #

      Afraid you are right…Things haven’t gotten bad enough yet for most people…

  3. MX Vet 57 November 13, 2023 at 9:42 am #

    Thank you, Jim.

    JD in South Georgia

  4. badberries November 13, 2023 at 9:46 am #

    Boy or Girl?, a distinction:

    The largest cell naturally occurring in the human body is the Ova. The Ova is found in the reproductive tracts of females. Got Ova?, you’re a girl.

    The only cell naturally occurring in the human body that is classified as a Flagellate, is the Sperm. Sperm are found in the reproductive tracts of males. Got Sperm?, you’re a boy.

    Got Sperm and Ova?, you can self pollinate like the noble earthworm. Good Luck!

    • Beryl of Oyl November 13, 2023 at 10:51 am #

      Someone sent me this tweet, mostly about the horrible effects testosterone can have on girls, which could help explain that “trans” shooter.

      It contained this one line, “The fact western medicine has done less due diligence than the average woman with internet access to the medical literature continues to be extremely concerning and wrong” which to me applies to not just medicine but to the MSM and Congress and everything.


      I remember early on when they were talking about vaccines and masks and ventilators and lockdowns, and it took me 15-20 minutes of research on each of those things to know that we were being had.

      Now we have the lying liars pushing the men can be women stuff hot and heavy, and it’s some of the same people who didn’t do the vaxx research doing it, and it’s the same stupid as hell politicians who think they can make daylight last longer who allow this to happen.

      • elysianfield November 13, 2023 at 11:47 am #

        “the horrible effects testosterone can have on girls…”

        Yes, so you might consider the horrible effects that it can have on boys….

        Pray for us….

        • Beryl of Oyl November 13, 2023 at 12:16 pm #

          The woman speculates on that too in her thread.

        • KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 1:29 am #

          ” Pray for us ”


          I’ll get your ass into Heaven yet !


          • KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 1:36 am #

            — I think I’ll skip the rat poison though.

            Prison isn’t my scene.

            Unless maybe I get to be roomates and Besties with Shelia Eddy , or get to play Martyrs with Julian Assange.

      • abbybwood November 13, 2023 at 11:58 am #

        And if Biden and/or Congress do not remove us from WHO by May of next year the WHO will have TOTAL control of our country if there is another “pandemic emergency of concern”. They will have the power to order us to be lockdowned, to wear masks, AND they will have the power to mandate that everyone take an untested bio-gene jab of their choosing. Safe and effective….not!

        Trump took us out of WHO and Biden got us back in and right now except for Sen. Ron Johnson and Rep. Biggs and Rep. Chip Roy, the entire Congress is fine with the WHO taking over all the pandemic decisions for the American people!

        Jim: Please look into this one for us and let us know if we are about to be taken over by the unelected WHO bureaucrats (like Bill Gates) next May.

        • Heartlander November 13, 2023 at 2:26 pm #

          December 1 is the deadline for countries to raise any objections to the currently planned diabolical changes in the WHO’s International Health Regulations.


          James Roguski has really been the voice in the wilderness trying to warn and inform people of what’s coming if we don’t stop it. Please go to his site and contact your Congressperson and Senators TODAY, or at least this week.

          I am not taking Roguski’s advice to send paper-and-ink letters, since we are simply out of time. Next week the holiday season begins, so our Congressmen and Senators need to hear from us THIS WEEK.

          I am using Roguski’s form letter as a starting point, making modifications of my own. In particular, while I understand Roguski’s exasperation, I never start a letter to my elected representatives with fierce, shaming criticism. (Of course, your mileage may vary.)

          Thank you for your attention to this matter!

          • Heartlander November 13, 2023 at 2:47 pm #

            In my own letters, I am also saying a little about WHY these amendments are so bad — e.g.:

            the amendments eliminate the previous regulations’ affirmation of individual human dignity, so that the “common good” as defined by the WHO may be used to justify anything our globalist overlords want;

            the amendments would allow the head of the WHO to declare ANYTHING HE WANTS to be a “public health emergency” (including poverty, inequity, climate change, and the “transitioning needs” of “transgender” children);

            the amendments would give the WHO absolute power to override national governments, no matter what their Constitutions say.

      • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 12:37 pm #

        You started out talking about women trying to be men, but your feminism was too much for you and you switched to the outrage of men trying to be women.

        Feminist indignation is your comfort zone. And it’s a large part of the official narrative. So much for being a “revolutionary”.

  5. lizharmon November 13, 2023 at 9:52 am #

    Hi Jim, Thanks for the Naomi Wolf podcast. Man, that was a wakeup call.

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    • Kellyfrombayfield November 13, 2023 at 10:10 am #

      where is that link Liz ?

      • Bill of Rights November 13, 2023 at 10:44 am #

        It’s in the top menu bar of the homepage. It says “PODCAST”.

    • Soul Forensics November 13, 2023 at 1:27 pm #

      Jim asks Wolf a ballsy question. What does she think about the takeover of the universities by feminists? Wolf first doesn’t commit, then asks for evidence. Jim presses her. She then responds that men control universities because they’re the deans or leaders. Jim doesn’t follow up, but only because time is short, and he doesn’t have an adversarial approach with his guests (understandable).

      But here’s the real issue with Wolf’s facile response. ‘Men’ (the ironic quotes are on purpose) have caved to the Marxist/feminist agenda. It’s not about men vs women, it’s about cultural Marxism vs true conservatism. Men must bow towards, pay homage to, and (most importantly) enforce the feminist vision. Wolf, no matter how intelligent she appears on other issues, is a woman after all, and will defend her own, ala the great quote on ideology that leads off Jim’s initial post.

  6. fortress November 13, 2023 at 9:59 am #

    The antidote to mind-fuckery is connection to God and his Messiah. Full stop.

    What’s happening ‘to us’ can’t be understood except through spiritual eyes. Awaken slumberer!

  7. Beryl of Oyl November 13, 2023 at 10:05 am #

    Anybody else notice that it got darker earlier in the evening but it got light earlier in the morning when we changed the clocks back?

    That’s because you cannot save daylight. Soon it will be dark when most of us get up and dark when people come home from work as well, no matter what the government does.

    That’s just how things are.

    The weather will be what it’s going to be whether we make Al Gore richer or not too.

    • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 12:40 pm #

      Yeah it’s great getting up with the Sun. The clock is artificial time. Daylight savings is getting back to normal – the real Normal – at least in this regard, not what you “remember” as an individual kid growing up in a sick and dying culture.

    • Rain Waters November 13, 2023 at 12:54 pm #

      You mean daylight slaving time ?

    • CrusherMuldoon November 13, 2023 at 1:33 pm #

      That’s why not changing the clocks back as implement during the Ford administration and scrapped by the next winter. Reason: Parents were complaining about their kids waiting at the bus stop in the dark. Come to think of it maybe that wouldn;t be an issue today. The parents complaining, not having it be lighter any earlier. Like Beryl said: “You can’t save darkness”

      • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 2:40 pm #

        Close the schools. The people will benefit a hundred fold.

        Lao Tzu

  8. tom clark November 13, 2023 at 10:05 am #

    Everyone’s a narcissist…some just a little more than others.

    • JohnAZ November 13, 2023 at 10:14 am #


      Power motivation affects 20% of the population, the source of narcissism. Narcissism is aberrant behavior, and defined as a diagnosis by the American Psychological Association.

      If you remember right, the problem with the Articles of Confederation was that committee management does not operate well and a presidential executive is needed.

      IOW, we as a society need the drive of narcissists to make the gears of state work.

      As unpleasant as that can be sometimes.

      • megabeth November 13, 2023 at 10:50 am #

        Good comment. Narcissism is a good thing, only maladaptive in some situations, in which the narcissist has a full-blown personality disorder that serves no functional purpose.

        • Jimpa November 13, 2023 at 12:35 pm #

          Well that’s good, because it is self evident that trump is cc’d a narcissist.

          • Jimpa November 13, 2023 at 12:37 pm #

            Remove ccd and capitalize Trump

      • Soul Forensics November 13, 2023 at 1:34 pm #

        The word “narcissism” has been watered down, just like “psychopath” and “racist”, to the extent that the power of the epithet has lost all bite and meaning.

        Read the Greek myth of Narcissus. It was always a negative tag. Narcissus drowns when he sees his own reflection in the pond. There’s nothing “good” or necessary about being a narcissist. Generally, they’re insufferable if not ridiculous.

        • pranah November 13, 2023 at 7:24 pm #

          Right, SF. Narcissists are evil, according to M. Scott Peck in his book, People of the Lie. That’s where human evil comes from. No need to postulate supernatural sources–humans can do the job well enough themselves. The thing is that normally wired humans simply can’t fathom narcissism (human evil), so often they throw up their hands and default to “it’s got to be something not-human”, i.e., demonic, in the supernatural sense. YMMV, please don’t flame me.

          • pranah November 13, 2023 at 7:25 pm #

            And then there’s the mundanity of weak-willed folks going along with the narcissists, like we saw with the COVID insanity.

          • pranah November 13, 2023 at 7:28 pm #

            Also–talking to myself here–I’m sure that people like Malone, Wolf, etc. haven’t got the memo about why the perps are doing all the mindbending shit, so they are flopping around for an explanation just like the rest of us. I didn’t get the memo, either. It =is= the Fourth Turning, though, so WWIII might well be right on schedule.

          • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 11:50 pm #

            Peck came to believe in Supernatural Evil and possession.

          • Soul Forensics November 14, 2023 at 12:14 am #

            Good catch, Jarek. Peck said he experienced a few clinical cases, and was terrified.

          • pranah November 14, 2023 at 12:31 am #

            That’s true, Jarek. Personally I thought he really went off the rails there. Again, YMMV.

          • Jarek November 14, 2023 at 1:53 pm #

            YMMV? Is that the initials of your Deity? Or of a mantra of protection?

          • Soul Forensics November 14, 2023 at 6:02 pm #

            YMMV = Your Mileage May Vary.

          • Paula D November 14, 2023 at 6:08 pm #

            The seven deadly sins apply to people, not demons.
            I would think that Christians would know them.

            Envy, gluttony, greed or avarice, lust, pride, sloth, and wrath.

            Pride= Narcissism.

            Greed=American credo, exemplified by Gates, WEF, Fauci, Biden, etc.

            Gluttony= SAD, Standard American Diet

            Lust= Standard American Entertainment, and now, Primary Education

            Envy= Advertising

            Sloth= Fossil Fuel Dependence

            Wrath = US Foreign Policy

          • Night Owl November 15, 2023 at 3:20 am #

            “Sloth= Fossil Fuel Dependence”

            Ah, yes. If “fossil” fuels are gone, what will the world run on? Or are we going to cull everyone as you desire and live on berries?

            The anti-fuelers are now pushing heat pumps here in Germany, with predictable results. 😀

    • kristiyn November 13, 2023 at 10:53 am #

      Not sure I would call this narcissism. Or malignant narcissistic behavior.
      For nine years now and counting I’ve been calling it Stuck on Stupid.

      As annoying and intimidating the malignant narcissist can be…. At least they get shit done.
      It’s almost impossible to believe that’s these idiots have been able to push their way into everything and make it a complete freak show of nonsense.

      That’s the end of the rant.

      Thank You JHk. Been a faithful reader for a decade now. For the past few years I’ve been enjoying your comment section.
      What a loyal, quirky, funny bunch you have here. And a bit intimidating.
      This is my first comment.

      Just wanted to post a thanks for the work you put into Clusterfuck Nation. You never miss a Monday or a Friday.
      Very grateful. For the laughter you bring to me each week out of all this insanity.

      • kristiyn November 13, 2023 at 11:05 am #


      • kristiyn November 13, 2023 at 11:06 am #

        Meant to type JHk

        • kristiyn November 13, 2023 at 11:07 am #

          Ok just forget it. The k is going to lower case no matter what. I tried. Lol

        • kristiyn November 13, 2023 at 11:08 am #


        • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

          Not wonder you’re kristiyn and not Kristiyn. Use it or lose it. You lost it.

        • Paula D November 13, 2023 at 1:20 pm #

          Ha, ha, welcome to the comment section, kristiyn. I believe you’ve met Jarek?

      • KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 2:17 am #

        ” Not sure I would call this narcissism. Or malignant narcissistic behavior.
        For nine years now and counting I’ve been calling it Stuck on Stupid. ”

        Wonderful first contribution.

        Love the username.

        ” Ok just forget it. The k is going to lower case no matter what. I tried. ”

        Ugh , just watched M3gan , now I have M3gan on the brain.

        I’m glad you didn’t get the upper case K .

        the lower case K gives the user name a quirky , unique character , along with the spelling.

      • KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 2:21 am #

        ” For the past few years I’ve been enjoying your comment section.
        What a loyal, quirky, funny bunch you have here. And a bit intimidating. ”

        Kunstler is great.

        Really great given his dedication to free speech isn’t total bullshit , like it is with so many.

        Good for me ;

        The loyal , quirky , funny bunch here is why I’m still here.

  9. Beryl of Oyl November 13, 2023 at 10:07 am #

    The thing that gets me about what’s happening in New York is we have so, so many lawyers in Albany.

    They have to know that this is not kosher, but they all stay silent.

    • Cankerpuss November 13, 2023 at 11:30 am #

      Lawyers. The most useless profession on the planet. All they do is take. They contribute nothing. They just take, take and take some more. They destroy. They break down. They take. Lawyers are worse than government workers. They suck society dry with their lies and their games and they give nothing back to it. When they do that then they run for government positions and consider their vampirical acts.

      • Soul Forensics November 13, 2023 at 1:38 pm #

        The most parasitic profession isn’t lawyers, it’s stockbrokers. At least going in, you know that lawyers are gonna fuck you over. Stockbrokers enter with a smile and an even smoother line of bullshit.

    • loosethedogs November 13, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

      What part of British Accreditation Registry (the BAR) don’t you understand? Licensed physicians are similarly controlled (threatened) with loss of their livelihood if they “make waves”. ” Step out of line, the man come take you away” (credit to Buffalo Springfield). Did you really believe that most attorneys care about justice?

    • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 12:43 pm #

      What about the Buffalo?

    • cowbell81 November 13, 2023 at 12:47 pm #

      Unfortunately, I think that most that believe in the kosher are on the defensive these days. I wonder if you could get kosher meals served at University or if they have done away with that?

  10. JohnAZ November 13, 2023 at 10:07 am #


    I sorta disagree. You have stated that these criminals have been getting away with institutional murder for generations, accelerating now. Beneath all he shenanigans. though, has been a restructuring of the political and judicial systems to facilitate totalitarianism, the rise of the Deep State. Why?

    Because the SOBs hate re-election, they do not like having to work every two years to get back to their cush jobs in DC.

    Anyway, back to subject, the judicial system in the USA is a far cry from what it was in the past. Totally biased. it is man driven now instead of driven by law. Trump is the perfect example. It is run by the Feds now instead of the states.

    These criminals have forged a box where they cannot be touched. To get to them, to remove the corruption will take violence and reconstruction of the federal charter, ie a new Constitution.

    How can this be done, or can it be done. JHK is optimistic that the country will find a way. I watch what this country’s population has morphed into in the last 70 years.

    I am not so optimistic.

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    • oilie November 13, 2023 at 10:28 am #

      When we have irreparably departed from the constitution, the purpose of welding the present mix of large, small and ill fitting states into a single nation will no longer be served. We are headed for the balkanization of America, at best. And it might get a little bloody in places.

      • Cankerpuss November 13, 2023 at 11:28 am #

        I agree with you Oilie. I don’t agree that America as it has been will be able to continue on in that capacity. The nation as it has been is finished. The damage it too great to fix at this point. I see a collapses in the political structure with the nation dividing into various political districts with these districts fighting against each other for resources. Texas will be one. The Rocky Mountains (excluding Colorado, NM and Arizona) will be another. The midwest, the south, etc.

        America has run its course. It has been ruined by greed and an insatiable lust for power by many within her systems. It’s a shame but it is not out of line with previous empirical powers. Democracy is a failed form of Government and lasts between 200 and 250 years.

        The only ideal government system is that of a righteous and selfless king. Unfortunately the natural man always corrupts that system as well.

        • JohnAZ November 13, 2023 at 11:41 am #

          I agree with you. In England the King is a symbol of the British Empire and provides an identity for the nation. The benevolent dictator has always been the ideal.

          However, too damn many assholes become kings.

          The US has been trying to create a monarchy with its dynasties during the 20th century. One of Trump’s selling points was destroying a few of those dynasties. They were leading us down the path of the Deep State.

        • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 12:45 pm #

          Traditional people have a deep distrust of businessmen and bankers. Surely that distrust has been vindicated. Surely “Capitalism” must never be allowed to rise again.

        • butter56 November 13, 2023 at 1:14 pm #

          What killed America was demographic change. Thanks once again LBJ, Ted Kennedy, and Jacob Javits.. . As a Texan I consider LBJ the greatest villain in American history

          • Hated American November 14, 2023 at 8:08 pm #

            That was the whole point of it. Destroy America.

        • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 1:32 pm #

          I like this butter fellow. Sometimes regimes fall and then another one rises again. Egypt have something like two dozen over thousands of years. A Civilization not just a nation.

          But we won’t rise again. We aren’t the same people anymore. Nor the same culture. No reason we would rise again.

          Why would Blacks adopt the culture that enslaved them? They’re too different anyway. They don’t assimilate even when they come to a White country by choice.

          Some Hispanics do. I dare say the Whiter they are the more likely they are to do so.

        • Mac November 13, 2023 at 2:50 pm #

          Canker- Perhaps it would have worked if we had left the vote with male landowners and left the election of Senators to the states. Expanding the franchise to vote just invites mob rule.

    • tuco22 November 13, 2023 at 10:30 am #

      As before, it’ll be about a third.

  11. oldandtired November 13, 2023 at 10:10 am #

    JHK: “ The wicked will answer. The counter-revolution has begun. You are not alone.”

    Thanks for the good thoughts. I have signed up for Madame Defarge’s online knitting class. People gotta get ready.

    • Uncle Abraham November 13, 2023 at 10:30 am #

      Apparently not too old or tired! These are energizing times.

      • oldandtired November 13, 2023 at 11:45 am #

        @Uncle Abraham: perhaps I should change my sobriquet to “sittingandknitting”?

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  12. izzy November 13, 2023 at 10:10 am #

    Rather than a nation finding its feet, it might be something new born from the wreckage of the old. The damage has been extensive, the divisions are deep, and the descent is apparently not over yet. The various vectors seem at once unconscious and intentional. And the insanity is not confined to the US. We shall see.

    • tuco22 November 13, 2023 at 10:43 am #

      Speaking of “the descent,” there’s a movie by that title that’s pretty good. It’s about a group of women cavers who go into this unexplored cave and find a group of devolved humans.

      • messianicdruid November 13, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

        The devolved humans are on the lower levels.

    • lateStarter November 13, 2023 at 11:03 am #

      I think that you are correct and it will have to be ‘something new born from the wreckage of the old’. And hopefully any attempts to resurrect the old way will be dealt with swiftly and without mercy. I agree that the insanity is not limited to the US. I doubt there is any country in the world right now where civil servants/gov’t officials acknowledge that they are there to serve the public. It is all gravy train, all the time. What do the corporate masters desire?

  13. kidseyedoc November 13, 2023 at 10:12 am #

    What a wonderful conclusion to Gloom and Doom. Great post, Jim.

  14. Beryl of Oyl November 13, 2023 at 10:13 am #

    San Francisco cleans up nice, doesn’t it?

    The governor pays a courtesy call on China’s leader, and when Xi shows up here they’ve got the place all spic and span for his royal visit.

    Having a mayor and then a Senator bought and paid for, for nearly half a century, works wonders.

    • Rain Waters November 13, 2023 at 12:58 pm #

      On site property manager.

    • Cactus Girl November 13, 2023 at 1:00 pm #

      Amazing, isn’t it? I suspect all the “important” people attending have handlers who won’t let them out of the designated, cleaned-up areas. Just like they do in China.

      I wish they’d wander over to my hood. We have a homeless trailer encampment right across the street. Every few months, the city cleans them out. 2 weeks later, they’re back.

      Yesterday, I was out in the backyArd, breaking down boxes to put in the bin. Out of the corner of my eye, I see movement on the steps. Thought it was my dog.

      I look up, and it was a ginormous, f$%#ing RAT barreling down the steps right at me, in broad daylight.

      Yeah, I screamed like a girl. But hey, I AM a girl, so I’m entitled. I had picked up a dead rat by the garbage just a few days ago. Mice chewed thru my wall and got into my apt.

      It’s supposed to rain this week, first good rain of the season. I can’t wait. By this time of the year, after 6 months of no rain at all, the streets smell like piss and the sewers stink. Let’s hope there’s no repeat of last year, when they backed up and the intersection in front of my house flooded a foot deep, inundating the lobby.

    • Gail November 14, 2023 at 8:27 am #

      It does look nice. They should invite ruthless dictators more often.

  15. neurodoc November 13, 2023 at 10:15 am #

    I can’t help but counter JHK’s excellent blurb and his, IMO, very optimistic conclusion. Recall that the last Dark Age lasted 900 years. That’s a long time to wait for ‘return of the light.’ Just say’in.

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    • Socrates-Detroit November 13, 2023 at 10:42 am #

      @neurodoc From a human perspective, I agree with you.

      But we are only here for a brief time, 80-100 years max, 70 to 80 “good ones” if that. The soul lasts forever. If one believes how we live now determines forever, know the difference between good and bad, and do your best. Consider looking into Orthodox Christianity.

      Also, I think JHK’s conclusion is technically correct, but I think God is going to put an end to the “dark days”. And I think things in general, will get darker between now and then. For the US, and for most everyone. Even Israel, whether or not they succeed in removing the Palestinians. And I think “then” is closer than a century. But those are just guesses.

      These things are not for us to know.

      By the way, 900 years IS a long time in human history.

      When/what date do you consider the start of the dark ages, and when/what marks the end?

      I’m guessing “end of the Roman Empire” to the “end of the Bubonic Plague”, or to the “expulsion of the Moslems from Spain”? That’s about a nice round 1000 years. That’s also a “Western” perspective.

      Of course, this is a “Western” space (West equals use of Latin alphabet).

      I don’t know that all the world went “dark”, or even all of Europe.

      The Byzantine Empire, the EASTERN half of the Roman Empire that morphed into a combination of Hellenism (Greekism) and Rome peaked around 565 AD, when church of Agia Sophia (St Sophia) was built, the largest structure in Europe until then, and still did pretty well for centuries after that.

      • neurodoc November 13, 2023 at 10:55 am #

        Stretching my memory WAY back to freshman western civ, taught by a West Point PhD/Colonel in military college, I think they labeled the Dark Ages as lasting from the 5th century to the 14th. Somewhere between 900 and 1000 years. I agree with your point that some places may have different time ranges. But, I am NOT an historian by any stretch of the imagination. Thanks for your clarifications.

        • Socrates-Detroit November 13, 2023 at 11:31 am #

          Thank you for your kind words neurodoc! You have made several eye-opening (for me) comments here, so I doubly appreciate your reply, and also, that’s why I was curious as to your take on the dates.

        • JohnAZ November 13, 2023 at 11:34 am #

          The Middle Ages were a time of localization, of local manors owned by nobility that provide protection for the serfs and often fought between themselves. Feudalism prevailed, the absence of a middle class, with nobles running the show, clergy maintaining the justification (no penury allowed) and 99% of the population essentially sharecroppers.

          Notice localization as a key word? If you have read JHK’s books, you will recognize the final result of Peak Oil down the road.

        • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 12:49 pm #

          As Bertrand Russell said, much useful work was done in the dark ages that laid the groundwork for Modernity. Many say we should have quit while we were ahead.

          Democracy is a bus. You get off at your stop.


      • Beryl of Oyl November 13, 2023 at 11:02 am #

        I posted about it before here, someone’s commentary about how fast Russia has come back from its Soviet days.

        We have that as an example.

        • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 12:50 pm #

          Nope. We have minorities! Diversity is our (their) strength in the same sense that your credit is their debit.

        • Heartlander November 13, 2023 at 11:32 pm #

          But Russia is a 1,000-plus-year-old civilization. The 70-year-long communist aberration was a mere blip in that long history.

        • Socrates-Detroit November 14, 2023 at 10:26 am #

          One thing Soviet Russia and the USA had in common was an overly large military, which undermined (and continues to undermine the US) the economy, to the detriment of the majority.

          Beyond that, lots of differences.

          America is suburbanized. MINUS. Russia is not.

          80-85% of the population is Russian. America is increasingly “diverse”–this is not 1963, when even Americans were, frankly much more “American”.

          In Russia, they have two genders.

          Russia was, and is, a Christian country. America is secular.

          Certainly, the chaos and “breakdown” of the late 90s has been replaced with order and relative prosperity. THAT is a MIRACLE!

          Dmitri Orlov has some interesting comparisons between the US and USSR. I learned of him in THIS SPACE, thank you CFN!

      • Cactus Girl November 13, 2023 at 1:08 pm #


        “When/what date do you consider the start of the dark ages, and when/what marks the end?

        The Dark Ages began in 415 AD, with the murder of Hypatia by a mob of Christian fanatics.

      • CrusherMuldoon November 13, 2023 at 1:44 pm #

        Sorry Socrates. I hate to conttest your theology but Biblical Christianity has no truck with how you’ve lived your life determining your eternal destiny. It all depends on the decision you make about Jesus Christ, the Messiah

        • Soul Forensics November 13, 2023 at 3:35 pm #

          Right. The secret to Catholicism.

          Whore around all week, act out in anger with your loved ones, screw people over at work, and be rude to all service staff.

          “Confess” once a week to some bored guy behind a screen who’ll give you his repetitive script for absolution.

          You walk out, laughing, and do the same thing next week, and every week thereafter, thinking that you’ve been favoured by divine grace and will go to a a Heaven fairyland.

          Meanwhile, the truly humble and useful to society, those with love in their hearts, who don’t believe in a Christian God who judges souls forever, will roast in Hell — forever.

          The self-justification and complacency is epic.

          • Mac November 13, 2023 at 5:09 pm #

            Agree. The problem with Christianity is you can be a shithead, then unload your sins onto Jesus.

          • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 6:31 pm #

            Born against don’t even have to go to confession. Don’t have to do anything at all. Jesus’ merits are infinite – you just have to believe on him.

            As Luther put it, his grace is the snow covering the dunghill.

            At its best, Catholicism demands transformation, rejecting the above legalism utterly.

          • Soul Forensics November 13, 2023 at 8:20 pm #

            But how many Catholic intercessors/priests hold their flock to that High standard?

          • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 9:40 pm #

            People have to choose it. And before that they have to understand it. I’ve brought up “inner work” and most have no interest, are just puzzled, or find it humorous.

            So is it better to have nothing for the majority or something that keeps people in line?

            Go back and review Kohlberg’s levels of morality. A God who rewards and punishes fits in perfectly with the pre-conventional/early conventional levels of morality.

            Get rid of religion and they’re create another religion – one that doesn’t have any higher levels at all. Like Feminism or racism.

          • kendar667 November 13, 2023 at 9:51 pm #

            Ahh but the key is to truly repent and sin no more. In other words, it doesn’t work to live like a pig and then lay it all on Jesus and you’re good. If you go back to the same wicked ways then you aren’t truly repentant are you? No real loopholes here, just imaginary ones. Same aa it ever was.

          • Soul Forensics November 14, 2023 at 12:10 am #


            Agree broadly with your latest, above, but I have a problem with this:

            “A God who rewards and punishes fits in perfectly with the pre-conventional/early conventional levels of morality.”

            The problem here is that the pre- and early-conventional levels of morality are taken to be the highest by those who can’t differentiate, or don’t understand anything higher. And, ipso facto, how could they? So they set up shop as the law makers or those who carry out orders, and their consciences are clear.

            “Against stupidity the very gods themselves contend in vain.” — Friedrich Schiller

          • Jarek November 14, 2023 at 1:56 pm #

            Yes, agree. How did Ancient India manage to get Kings bowing down to Sages?

            Trump has a spiritual advisor – a female prosperity Christianity person. Oh Kali, you’ve done it again.

        • Socrates-Detroit November 14, 2023 at 9:44 pm #

          Crusher, I see your point. I’m not a priest. I don’t mind you contesting my theology. It’s a deeper topic than your concise statement, and again, I’m not a priest, and I’m not going to debate it.

          Yes, the decision you make about Christ is important. So is partaking of Holy Communion.

          Every one is entitled to their beliefs. Whatever they are, my point, my opinion, is that the world is moving in a direction that will adversely affect millions of lives.

          I suppose that has always been true–millions adversely affected, millions of others positively affected.

          I think America had a good run, in general (not for everyone, all the time) in the 20th century, but the indicators and just anecdotal local events seem to point in the opposite direction. The name of this website implies as much.

    • kendar667 November 13, 2023 at 9:38 pm #

      True neurodoc, but info moves much faster these days. Incredibly fast actually, and that is the main difference. Hundreds of years condensed into a few short years, and soon months or even days. There is no exact historical parallel, although the waves might be the same, the speed is unfathomable. Love your posts btw.

      • Socrates-Detroit November 14, 2023 at 10:34 am #

        Not only information moves faster, but time is “worth more” today.

        Consider this: inflation is considered the ‘debasement’ of money, right? In 1977 a house might cost $40,000, today it might cost $400,000. Each dollar buys less as time goes by…

        But what about time? Time has appreciated in value!

        How so? The pace of change today is faster than ever. It has always been “faster than ever”.

        How much did things between 500BC and 500AD? Very little, if at all. 500AD to 1500AD? Some in the west.

        But then, in the West, with the Renaissance, learning about science, and harnessing science to make stuff and do things better, from 1500 to 1700 the rate of change accelerated.

        And it continues to accelerate.

        So, now that a unit of time is worth more, today’s empire that has lasted for 80 years (Post-WW2 USA), has lasted the equivalent of 800 years of “older time”.

  16. reggiezz November 13, 2023 at 10:26 am #

    That’s a beautiful ending, and I would like to believe it, but the brainwashers took to the air on 60 minutes last night to prepare their viewers for war with Iran. I don’t see that war having a good outcome for America.

    • Uncle Abraham November 13, 2023 at 10:42 am #

      Iran declared war on the US in 1979, whether we acknowledge it or not. Like Harry Truman said, “How many times does somebody got to hit you upside the head before you realize who’s hitting you!?” And as another astute observer remarked about George Bush misidentifying our tireless enemy, and I paraphrase, ‘Apparently he can’t spell’ (Iran, not Iraq!)

      This is not a comment or agreement regarding what was said on 60 Minutes, which I didn’t watch.

      There is more than one way to fight – certainly the policies and actions of Obama/Biden have been the opposite of helpful in this war – they’ve been aiding and not abetting the enemy.

      • Uncle Abraham November 13, 2023 at 10:43 am #

        Aiding and abetting

      • Socrates-Detroit November 13, 2023 at 11:01 am #


        Iran seized the US embassy in 1979. Taking an embassy is an act of war, NOT a declaration of war.

        Hmmm… why did they do that? Because they’re evil?

        Or did it have to do with a lot of pent-up anger that the US, the CIA, deposed the elected leader of Iran in 1953, one Mohammed Mosaddegh, because he wanted Iran to get a fairer deal of Iranian oil exploited by British Petroleum (BP), and because Britain did not want that, so the CIA toppled him and put the boy king, the Shah of Iran on top?

        And the Shah grew and became strong and set up his own intelligence/secret police called SAVAK, which killed and tortured Iranians who did not agree with the Shah.

        But the US always supported the Shah! Despite his known human rights abuses. Nixon/Ford even sold him 80 F-14s! Carter feted him at the White House.

        Because the Shah was our “friend”! And what friend he was! While the Saudis embargoed oil to the US in 1973, in response to the US supporting Israel in the Yom Kippur War, it was the SHAH’s IRAN that led the charge in OPEC to QUADRUPLE the price of oil.

        It was the SHAH who started Iran’s “peaceful nuclear program”, which is the foundation of the current Islamic Republic’s nuclear program. With US help no less! Why did oil-rich Iran, in 1971, need nuclear power? (And for that matter, why does oil-rich Saudi Arabia in 2023 need it?)

        The Iranians took American hostages for 444 days. They all came back alive.

        I actually head one in the early 1980s at a college lecture. He had very good sense of humor. If he was abused, he kept it to himself. He said “to mess with the Iranians, as I knew I was under constant surveillance, I would pretend to talk into my watch. They eventually took it away!” I found that amusing.

        Another act of war took place in June 1967. The Israeli Air Force attacked the USS Liberty. 37 US sailors were killed. Their lives were cut short.

        Act of war vs declaration of war. Please be more careful with your language in the future.

        • JohnAZ November 13, 2023 at 11:26 am #

          Do you drive a car? Do you bitch when gas goes over $5 a gallon? Would you bitch if you had to wait for hours to get gasoline? If you could get it at all.

          Here is a little history you omitted.

          In 1943, FDR made a visit to King Faisal of Saudi Arabia to beg him for oil as the Joint Chiefs had told him the US could not supply the necessary oil for the war. A deal was made, SA to supply all of the USA needs if the US would protect SA with its military. That pact still exists, except a little strained right now thanks to the idiot in the WH.

          So, knowing that Iran was a bastion of Shia hatred towards the Sunnis in SA, could it be that putting the narcissistic Shah back on the throne might calm down the oil situation as his secularism was seen to be a much easier pill to swallow. That has been the number one goal of Western foreign policy since WW2, to facilitate the flow of oil.

          A damned good reason to fear BRICS++.

          Act of war? Or unfortunate case of mistaken identity?

          Depends on who you listen to, even inside the USA.

          • Socrates-Detroit November 13, 2023 at 11:54 am #


            Misinformation is bad. You watch too much Fox news and listen to Republicans and think you know what you’re talking about.

            Iran was not a bastion of Shia hatred in 1943 or 1953.

            The deposed Mossadegh was a reasonable man who felt that his country should not be exploited. He was not mullah, and he didn’t advance a theocratic regime. He wanted Iran to get SOME of the profits of Iranian oil.

            The Shia clerics leveraged the general dislike and even hatred of the Shah, whom (right or wrong) the Iranian people saw as a US puppet, to mobilize support and topple him.

            Either the Shah was not as “tough” as Netenyahu, or his Generals could not be counted on to kill thousands of Iranians, so the Shah fled, and the mullahs took over.

            That’s called “blowback”. That’s what happens when one does bad things and they boomerang.

            Those “hateful” Shiites in Iran host the ONLY remaining Jewish communities in the middle east. Did you know that?

            Can you tell us how many synagogues or churches are in Saudi Arabia? Please tell.

            And don’t me about gasoline. Have you ever spent time in Saudi Arabia? Because I had to serve my time there, doing my “duty” as an Imperial Trooper (which is what ALL US military are today) to keep Saddam in his little box.

            I drive a smaller car (hardly small by global standards), BTW.

            If you’re open-minded, if they have any foreign movies in Arizona in languages other than Spanish, you might find that Iran makes movies. “Separations” played at the artsie Detroit Institute of Arts a few years ago. Good movie. Go find a Saudi movie.

            As for Israel, there’s no case of mistaken identity. The Israelis did not want the US to know they were going to sneak attack the Arabs and the shot up the ship.

            And LBJ refused, the SOB REFUSED to let US Navy come to the ships aid, because he didn’t want to offend Jewish donors, who funded about 50% of the Democratic party. Imagine that!

            I find it despicable when people like you,will do all kinds of acrobatics to justify the crimes of people or countries they like, and do the same acrobatics to exaggerate or lie or state mistruths to smear those they don’t like.

            Truth is truth. Didn’t you get that from all the John Wayne movies you watched? I watched some of him too.

            Yes, FDR and Saudi made a deal. Your comment that “knowing that Iran was a bastion of Shia hatred…” is absurd.

            Go on, vote for Niki Haley. Better yet, ask AIPAC who to vote for, so you don’t do the wrong thing. LOL

          • Socrates-Detroit November 13, 2023 at 12:15 pm #

            Oh, and I don’t gripe about $5 gallon gas. If gasoline had gradually risen to $5-10 a gallon 20 years ago, or $5 thirty years ago, I think the US would be better off today. I’m careful who I say that too, people get angry or upset.

            I look at the (newer) suburbs of Nashville or Dallas/Ft Worth and compare them to the (older) ones close to Detroit or NYC areas I’ve lived and worked in.

            You need to drive in both, but you drive a lot more in the newer ones.

            You have lot more “grassy expanses” in Nashville. That sod needs water. Even here in the old suburbs, they tear down an older house or commercial building that had an “old” lawn. The new one has sod. Sod needs a sprinkler system. More waste, of our most precious resource.

            And cheap gas facilitates suburban sprawl, which I think is a waste. Not just the bigger houses with more crap but driving 10 miles to the doctor vs 3 to 5.

            Anyway, we are in the early stages of the long emergency now. A jump to $10 per gallon gas/diesel would be a shock for most folks except maybe California. And it will ripple through the supply chain for everyone. I think we are going to find out.

          • TPTB-USA November 13, 2023 at 1:47 pm #

            “A jump to $10 per gallon gas/diesel would be a shock for most folks except maybe California.” ~ Socrates-Detroit

            $10 per gallon gas/diesel in some state might equate to $20 per gallon gas/diesel in California, and I suspect that would get most residents attention.

        • RD3 November 13, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

          At the same time, Carter was intent on dismantling the CIA, which pissed off Pappy Bush. So, he cooked up the Iran deal to get Carter out of there and ride The Actor’s coattails into the White House.

          • Socrates-Detroit November 13, 2023 at 12:39 pm #

            Interesting! You’re more conspiratorial than me!

            Ride the actor’s coattails? Or toss a flower on his casket?

            Didn’t Bush Sr or his family have some kind of relationship with John Hinckley Jr, Reagan’s would-be assassin?

          • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

            Is that true?

            Hinc (as the Boston Herald used to call him) is out now and is behaving himself.

          • RD3 November 13, 2023 at 1:10 pm #

            I don’t know about any connection between Bush and Hinckley, but Arthur Bremer was trained by Nixon’s creeps. There are pictures of Bremer and G. Gordon Liddy together at events all over the Midwest.

          • Paula D November 13, 2023 at 1:37 pm #

            Carter got Trump’d, an early version.
            He was hounded by the news media (“Today is Day 201 of the Hostage Crisis”, every damn day), and the Deep State of the day made a deal with the Iranians to keep the hostages until after the election, in return for the Reagan administration’s promise to supply Iran with weapons.

            The deal was done. Iran kept the hostages until the exact moment of the Reagan inauguration (who says they don’t keep their deals?), and then released them, and then Oliver North set up a criminal guns-for-drugs operation in the White House basement, under the supervision of former CIA director George Bush.

            They funneled the guns to Iran through Israel, by the way. So much for the eternal hostility we are constantly told exists.

            Anyway, I am mildly surprised that CFNers don’t know about the October Surprise of 1980.

            OG, do you know about this one?


          • Socrates-Detroit November 14, 2023 at 10:45 am #

            Carter appealed to 1970s idealists–a “new Democrat”, with no wars and “fairness for all”.

            He was slickly marketed.

            Now, he did a “peanut farmer”, who became the Governor of Georgia, a rising state, the “New South” and so forth, but still a lesser state in 1970s America–lesser to any number of states from NY to Illinois, California, Texas, go from Governor in 1974 to President in 1976?

            Well, he curried favor with the globalists of his day, the Trilateral Commission. And this relatively obscure, HIP governor, whom rock and rollers and country singers supported, adding to his “youth” appeal, got elected.

            And once in charge, he pretty much followed the globalist party line–more debt. More guns. Same global warmongering. Turkey invaded Cyprus, and Democrat, “moralist” Carter pushed to lift the US arms embargo on the Turks. Carter feted the brutal Shah of Iran, just like Nixon and Ford had.

            Just my opinion, but he may have “seemed” to want to dismantle the CIA, but the Council on Foreign Relations and Trilaterals, the powers behind the scenes, like the CIA. And they enabled Carter’s rise. So just theater, the CIA would, and does, continue to operate in the dark and get away with stuff.

            I like Carter as an ex-President though. He is the best of our ex-Presidents.

          • Paula D November 14, 2023 at 6:30 pm #

            Yes, Carter’s rise was as fast and bizarre as Obama’s. Clearly, they thought he would be their boy, and as you point out, in many ways, he was.
            He was a roommate in the Naval Academy of a dude who became part of the Deep State, but I can’t remember who it was, and guess what? The search engines are not helping, even Yandex. I guess that info has been scrubbed.

            I would add his bringing back part of the draft, the registration.

            But he must have crossed them somehow, or maybe they just thought the Evil Reagan would get them farther (he certainly did), because they definitely had a marketing campaign to remove him.

            Same with Nixon. I guess the assassinations of the 60s were so crude it was Too Soon to do them again.

            The latest was Trump, of course. They have Gone Too Far, again. They’re going to have to dial it back, again.

        • loosethedogs November 13, 2023 at 1:32 pm #

          If memory serves me, the U.S .hasn’t been at war since WWII. We have had multiple “police actions” but no wars. Congress has done a wonderful job of keeping us out of wars by never officially declaring one. OMHO they will only declare a war when the economy is going down the tubes and the MIC is missing it’s return expectation$.. Stay tuned….

          • RD3 November 13, 2023 at 1:41 pm #

            Does a war have to be officially declared for them to reinstate the draft?

          • Mac November 13, 2023 at 5:14 pm #

            Hey Loose, tell that to the Moms who buried their sons.

        • Bilejones November 13, 2023 at 6:14 pm #

          “The Iranians” didn’t “take hostages” a bunch of students attacked and occupied the US Embassy.
          That’s a very different thing.

          And while we’re at it, the Soviet Union didn’t invade Afghanistan.

          It’s important to remember that the US media is controlled by a Bronze Ag Death Cult,

        • JackStraw November 14, 2023 at 5:47 am #

          You might want to brush up on your history before trying to shame somebody from a position of ignorance.

          Iran DECLARED war on the US shortly after the Shah was deposed. We simply didn’t show up for the war. The declaration was never retracted, so according to the Iranians, we have been at war with them for 43 years.

          Please be more careful displaying your ignorance of history in the future.

          • Paula D November 14, 2023 at 6:46 pm #

            Well, I guess you told him. I had never heard that before, so I investigated.

            Odd that your claim is not provable, given that you seem so sure.


          • JackStraw November 15, 2023 at 8:04 am #

            @Paula D

            That was difficult.


          • Paula D November 16, 2023 at 7:16 pm #

            Seriously? A sketchy website makes an unsubstantiated claim and that’s your “proof”?

            I saw no declaration of war quoted therein.

      • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 12:54 pm #

        “The Jews, I find are very, very selfish. They care not how many Estonians, Latvians, Finns, Poles, Yugoslavs or Greeks get murdered or mistreated as D[isplaced] P[ersons] as long as the Jews get special treatment. Yet when they have power, physical, financial or political neither Hitler nor Stalin has anything on them for cruelty or mistreatment to the underdog.

        from Truman’s diary

  17. Nick Reynolds November 13, 2023 at 10:34 am #

    Here’s my guess, and it’s only a guess. It’s being done by the very wealthiest, the Rockefellers and Rothschilds. Not the piddly little billionaires like Gates and Soros. They’re simply water carriers. Why and why now is the big mystery. My guess is To stop Bitcoin, more accurately, to stop decentralized cryptos, because decentralized cryptos are an existential threat to the trillionaires’ enormous wealth and power. There are two ways to do that. The first is take over the entire world and ban decentralized cryptos. Introduce a centralized cryptocurrency, a CBDC, which is nothing but technological slavery. If that doesn’t work, they will need to shut down the Internet and leave it down. My prediction is that’s coming.

    • malthuss November 13, 2023 at 10:56 am #

      Perhaps you are right.
      Perhaps the big boys created bitcoin. I dont know.

      CBDCs on the way.

    • JohnAZ November 13, 2023 at 11:12 am #


      These big boys are only part of the equation. They have an uprising enemy.

      BRICS++, now an economic coalition intent on bringing down the US and the West, soon to be a military coalition as China supports Russia and the ME and erodes its way into Europe.

      China understands that progressive economic relations with other countries trump all the money and military might.

      That is why BRICS++ is going to win the battle for world dominance.

      Rockefeller and Rothschild will become Chinese surnames.

      • Jimpa November 13, 2023 at 11:45 am #

        The BRICS are in the same globalist boat as the rest of the world, The Russians have their own CBDC, clot shots, digital cattle tagging ID for the populace, and are on board with the global warming agenda.The Chinese? Social credit score anyone?

        Although JHK discounts it, I’m strongly convinced that it’s the globalist, transhumanist, WEF crowd that is the public face of the Oligarch cabal that is the ultimate head of the evil we face.

        The BRICS are the opposite side of the same coin. Each of them fight amongst themselves for whom gets to eat which peasants, but there is a group on top of all the Nations that they are all aligned to. Why are they so aligned? Because it ultimately serves their interests for control. Some day there may well be an antichrist type figure at the top of all of it.

        • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 1:00 pm #

          I fear it is so. Like the War of the Roses: One dynasty against another. Differences of opinion or policy? None. But plenty of difference as to which families and their allies are going to get to be on top. Worth fighting for? Absolutely! For them. For the common people?

          It is to laugh. The Army just put out an ad featuring White men, and have been laughed to scorn by White men. The pale niggas ain’t gonna fight their wars no mo.

        • loosethedogs November 13, 2023 at 1:41 pm #

          Jimpa: Research “Homo Capensis”…

        • malthuss November 13, 2023 at 9:43 pm #

          Do they have fluoride in their water?

          Gay parades?

          gay marriage?

      • Soul Forensics November 13, 2023 at 2:16 pm #

        C.J. Hopkins deals with this question very well.

        Nations fight amongst each other over supremacy, but the overarching layer is WEF/globocap power and directives.

        Centralized gov’ts, even now, don’t project their own power, they serve the greater master. Countries are like tropical fish fighting over the packaged food that the globo-hand shakes into their tanks a few times a day.

  18. Mister Roboto November 13, 2023 at 10:37 am #

    TheHill.com just ran story (sorry, no link because comments I make with links always go bye-bye) stating that the DC establishment thinks that RFK, Jr. has a shot at winning in a three-way race between him, Biden, and Trump, and said establishment is in a panic about this. I am inclined to think that this may be signaling that the intention to replace Joe Biden with Gavin Newsom as the Democratic Party presidential candidate is starting to gel and may in fact happen.

  19. hustled enough November 13, 2023 at 10:39 am #

    Hi JHK Admin,
    “We struggle to sort this out.”

    Sure. Given the explanations you offer are terribly convoluted, I would try for Occam’s Razor here. Why is the former President on trial? Because, when one follows what is going on, we see an overwhelming amount of evidence to support the claim that the former President inflated values of companies to secure otherwise unavailable loans.

    Do others do it? Certainly. Is some of this motivated in part by the belief that DT is a danger to the Republic? Likely. But in the final analysis, it looks pretty much given that DT broke the law in a systematic and egregious fashion.

    I guess it sucks to be rich … and DT.

    PS. Irony alert: “What’s going on is that all these players are now desperate to evade the blame for and consequences of their many crimes.” Can we agree that this is what DT is also doing?

    • Uncle Abraham November 13, 2023 at 10:51 am #

      An interesting aspect of TDS on display here is how totally un-self aware carriers of this mental disorder are. What other disorders confer such confidence and self-righteous indignation in their carriers that they are compelled to attack like rabid dogs?

      • neurodoc November 13, 2023 at 10:59 am #

        People with severe mental disorders (e.g. delusional, psychotic disorders) rarely have self awareness of their psychopathology. Two exceptions are anxiety and depressive spectrum disorders. FYI

        • Uncle Abraham November 13, 2023 at 11:15 am #

          Yes, and the self-righteous attack mode also separates TDS from the pack.

          • Bilejones November 13, 2023 at 6:25 pm #

            It’s remarkable how clean Trump is. 40 years of doing business in the corrupt cesspit that is NYC anf the Clinton smear machine found nothing. They why the had to make up Russia-gate.
            Garland (real name Garfinkle) and his minions really have to make crimes up out of whole cloth in order to persecute him.

            I think you are right TDS is a mental disorder.

          • Anthea November 14, 2023 at 3:37 am #

            When you consider that the only dirt that they could find on Trump was the rather juvenile “grab them by the pussy” banter–from many years previous to his election–you can’t help but get the impression that the guy was a regular Sir Lancelot, at least compared to other politicians.

            It also seems kind of odd that there were people out there who were recording Trump’s casual conversations, years before he ran for president.

            My theory is that anyone who achieves any level of wealth, prominence, or influence has government stalkers assigned to them: guys who try to lure him into making indiscrete remarks or engaging in indiscrete or immoral conduct. I think the idea is to start collecting dirt on such people at the earliest possible time and to continue doing so over many years.

            When you consider that Trump probably had people tailing him for most of his adult life, and the best dirt they could come up with was a single lapse into frat-boy vulgarity while hanging with the boys, Trump must have been almost as clean as a whistle.

          • hustled enough November 14, 2023 at 3:22 pm #

            And Anthea,
            The number of women reporting sexual assault by DT is rather high in my opinion to be dismissed. I remember a civil suit that DT recently lost…

        • Paula D November 13, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

          So TDS sufferers cannot be cured, because they aren’t even aware of their delusions?


          But when delusions are enforced and encouraged by the Establishment, it does take a strong and rational mind to reject them.

          • Socrates-Detroit November 13, 2023 at 12:17 pm #

            Sorry, does TDS mean Trump Derangement Syndrome?

          • Paula D November 13, 2023 at 3:17 pm #


        • Soul Forensics November 13, 2023 at 2:30 pm #

          People are conformists. When they watch the bought-and-neutered CNN and read the WaPo daily, and every cast or article is a screech about evil(!!!!) Trump, and they then go to facebook and scroll through their feeds where their friends are all posting witless memes about “Orange Man Bad”, most will go along, getting caught up in the social righteousness, which gives a debased meaning to their otherwise boring lives.

        • hustled enough November 13, 2023 at 3:14 pm #

          I have to agree with you–JBS is pretty extant amongst certain parts of the population…

      • hustled enough November 13, 2023 at 3:14 pm #

        Hi Uncle Abraham,
        I think if you are going that rote, you would have to also speak to widespread JBS as well. Plenty of that to be had…

    • tuco22 November 13, 2023 at 10:55 am #

      Well, did the banks file a complaint or sue him? No, because they didn’t lose any money. And why does it bother you more that Donald Trump may have overinflated the value of his companies than it does that Joe Biden is in the Chinese Communist Party’s back pocket?

      • hustled enough November 13, 2023 at 3:44 pm #

        Actually they did ask for money back–but Trump is notoriously hard to deal with (one of the reasons why Deutsche wanted higher valued assets after 2011. DB gave up 287 million from DT back in the day, marketwatch.com/story/lenders-forgave-287-million-in-unpaid-debt-by-trump-report-11603844181.

        Feel free to say–no harm, no foul, but if this is the standard you want to offer to live by, than, this should be OK for ALL firms to do, ALL the time. And why stop there? Allow EVRYONE to do this… hmm, didn’t that get us into trouble back in 2008 – 09? I think if you argue this is OK, we have no system that allows for actual “tru”-ish valuations. What incentive is there for a bank to lend? So, prosecuting an egregious case, is a USEFUL signal to send.

        • kendar667 November 13, 2023 at 6:35 pm #

          Trump is living rent free in your head and the best thing you can do is not think about him at all, ever. Oh, he talks a good game to the MAGA crowd and I love a Trump speech as much as the next guy, but at the end of the day the Globalist agenda marches forward, same as with “Joe Biden”, who btw has been dead for about 4-5 years now. You see, TPTB have deemed that Trump would not have the crash happen on his watch, “Joe Biden” would be the fall guy for the crash and then Trump would come back later to preside over the wreckage and save the day! And all these illegals that have flooded in, well people will demand that something be done about it, right?! So when Trump comes back, he will institute martial law and Real ID stuff because we asked for it! Problem/Reaction/Solution, all set up for your totalitarian viewing pleasure and entertainment.

          Once you realize that there is no Right/Left or D/R or Trump/Biden and that the paradigm is a fabrication and pure theater designed to distract you, then you will start to see things more clearly and you won’t want to talk about either of them much. After all, these DA’s and judges are just playing their parts and Trump is playing another. Then they all go golfing together, or whatever they do and laugh about it while the world burns. Don’t buy into it and don’t feed it.

          • hustled enough November 15, 2023 at 12:19 am #

            Hi kendra667,
            I think your point is well taken, until you actually think about DT becoming President again (which could happen). If that happens, DT will not just be “living rent-free in our heads.” He will be living in the actual world making decisions that will affect us–mostly negative, I suspect…

    • JohnAZ November 13, 2023 at 11:04 am #

      If everybody does it to ace out the competition, is it a crime? if the judicial system has looked the other way for decades, is it a crime?

      Or is it a crime when a domineering political force biases the judicial system to get someone that may be a threat to the Deep State?

      Is that a crime?

      Trump is convenient, the opposition have got him by the short hairs, maybe.

      Everyone of the crooks in DC, most of Deep State, that deals with lobbyists is just as guilty as Trump.

      DJT, convenient?


      I hope he brings the entire rotten house down with him. Could it be that that is what he is up to?

      • hustled enough November 13, 2023 at 3:46 pm #

        Well JohnAZ,
        If people do this and benefit from doing it–by socialising losses and privatising profits, is that a crime? Or is it the sort of thing that gets folks to march and create the Tea Party, etc… And get people pissed off with capitalists in general?

    • Beryl of Oyl November 13, 2023 at 11:06 am #

      It doesn’t look like that at all. It looks like James was out to get him (because she said so) and when she couldn’t find any real wrongdoing, she cobbled together something ridiculous (because that’s what she did).

      But you knew that.

    • Paula D November 13, 2023 at 12:08 pm #

      There is no law against overestimating the value of your own property.

      Note that the bank which gave the loan is not the complaining party.

      It would be laughed out of court in any honest jurisdiction if a bank which loaned money, and has already been paid back, tried to sue someone for “fraud” because of a real estate valuation.

      Odd that the shitlibs who think that elections can’t be contested, or that indictments prove guilt, or that courts refusing to hear cases means that there is not case, are all over a clearly politically motivated bullshit case using invented law, because Orange Man Bad.

      Talk about lack of ethics and morals!

      • hustled enough November 13, 2023 at 3:47 pm #

        Actually, there is, Paula D, if the reason you are doing it is to get money out of people who would otherwise not lend to you, because they think you have assets they can seize if the loan falls through. That is called fraud.

    • Rowdypiglet November 13, 2023 at 12:18 pm #

      No, @hustled, we can’t agree. Your understanding of the “case” is non-existent, but allow me to provide a knowledgeable view of it from Jeff Childers, a lawyer who has specialized in this corner of the law, from his “Coffee and Covid” substack dated September 27, 2023:

      “The first thing to understand about the decision is that no one was harmed. Trump paid all his loans back in full, on time. Letitia’s case is only about what Trump put down on the financial statements that were provided to extremely sophisticated financial professionals who didn’t rely on them. Letitia and Judge Engoran relied on a goofy New York law criminalizing “falsifying” financial documents — a unique law that doesn’t require even one single victim.

      That’s bad enough. But it gets a LOT worse.

      This case is right in my wheelhouse; I’ll explain the whole thing. It’s not complicated. The judge’s 35-page decision is, at bottom, only about how President Trump valued his real estate holdings when he was providing his personal financial statement to various people. I am qualified to comment because half of my commercial litigation cases are disputes over real estate. Before tumbling into constitutional and civil rights law, I also had a strong side practice in commercial loan workouts — negotiating for developers with banks — and commercial Chapter 11 bankruptcy, which (at least in Florida) is all about valuing real estate.

      Principle number one: Real estate valuation is not a science because values are subjective. Every effort to value real estate is just a guess at what someone will eventually be willing to pay for the land. Your dilapidated barn might be someone else’s castle.

      Real estate — buildings and land — is worth different amounts to different people. A thousand acres of inexpensive pine forest zoned only for agricultural use could be worth a whole lot more to a developer who’s confident he can get a zoning change. It’s not nefarious. Maybe that developer also owns a half-acre parcel downtown somewhere that the County has long wanted for a park, so he knows he has something to trade the commissioners for rezoning the pine forest to residential.

      That hypothetical developer would pay a lot more for the thousand acres than anyone else. So what’s the property worth? The price to everyone else or the “highest and best use?”

      But legal disputes must be resolved and you have to start somewhere. Lawyers think about real estate values in three general categories, depending on who is doing the valuing. From lowest value to highest, the normal categories are: the tax appraised value (the lowest, and least likely to be accurate), the “forced liquidation” value (think foreclosure sale), and then the highest, the “market” value (determined by professional appraisers who assume that the seller can market the property without pressure or time constraints).

      Even professional appraisers disagree on land value. Every single one of my cases involves competing appraisals, and the appraisers’ numbers are often wildly different. Lawyers and judges all know that appraisals are just guesses. When I negotiate with bank lawyers, I often offer to bet them a month’s salary that when the appraised property finally sells, it will bring a price at least 15% different than the bank’s appraisal. In all these years, no opposing lawyer has ever taken that bet.

      A fourth category of valuation is the owner’s opinion of his property’s value. Even though an owner might not be a real estate expert, the law considers the owner well positioned to know the value of their own property. They probably think about it a lot. They know all the pro’s and con’s.

      Therefore under the law, an owner’s opinion is admissible evidence of value.

      The lowest valuation is usually the tax appraised value, which is the amount used by the state to calculate annual property taxes. There’s a good reason why it’s the lowest: tax appraisers calculations are limited in many ways under state law. For example, in Florida tax appraisers can’t increase the value of homestead property — where someone lives — more than a few percentage points at a time. Tax appraisers also can only change the assessment when certain things happen, like when a property is sold.

      Judge Engoran ruled yesterday that Trump had “inflated” his property values on his financial statements. Meaning, the judge decided what the properties were worth and then found that Trump overestimated Trump’s values — on paper. Take for example Trump’s residence, Mar-a-Lago, which the judge determined was worth $18 million for the entire ten-year period between 2011 and 2021.

      That determination was based only on the county tax assessor, who appraised its value between $18 and $27 million. So of course the Judge used the lowest number in that range, $18 million, comparing that to Trump’s value of between $426 million and $612 million:

      Nobody would use the tax appraiser’s value to guess at Mar-a-Lago’s selling price. Nobody. Here’s what Forbes recently said in a highly-critical article about Trump and the case . . . So Forbes estimated Mar-a-Lago’s value between $200 million and $725 million, based on broker opinions, and ultimately went with “a conservative” $350 million. Mar-a-Lago is spectacular, historic, all-stone, luxury oceanfront property that looks like a castle and is the size of a small hotel. For comparison, a 5-bedroom home recently sold in the same neighborhood for $75 million.

      The $18 million value is a joke. Except nobody’s laughing.

      And it gets even worse. All of Trump’s financial statements — again, provided to sophisticated financial professionals — included a prominent disclaimer saying that actual real estate values could be wildly different than what was put down.The judge even reprinted the disclaimer in full in his opinion.

      But Judge Engoran breezily waved the disclaimer aside, in essence holding that Trump should have known better anyway. The judge then went through all Trump’s other LLCs and properties and applied the same logic, finding Trump’s guesses at the value of his real estate were “false.”

      The practical effect, as I read the order, is that the judge has ordered Trump to stop doing business in New York, and ordered Trump’s properties to be fire-sold under a court-appointed receiver. Again — even though nobody was harmed.

      I assume President Trump’s lawyers will appeal this awful decision. Stay tuned.”

      I’m not a lawyer like Jeff Childers who has expertise in this area of the law, but I worked for several years in an office where real estate appraisals were part of the business. Anyone with any knowledge of appraisals will readily agree with Jeff Childers’ assessment of the case.

      Does that make it any clearer for you?

      • Paula D November 13, 2023 at 3:19 pm #

        It’s very clear to any rational mind.

        Unfortunately, HE has delusions, strongly reinforced by the Establishment, and neurodoc has pointed out that these kind of people cannot be reached with facts.

      • hustled enough November 13, 2023 at 3:49 pm #

        So, the claim is–no one was actually hurt in the transaction? So, your mind would be changed if he had losses he could not pay back, and eventually got a bank to “forgive the loan”?

        • hustled enough November 13, 2023 at 3:51 pm #

          Sorry for the ambiguity, Rowdypiglet. That question was directed towards your claim. The key issue is about intent–the why he did this. And DT has made clear that he over-valued his property to induce people to give him the loans.

          • oldandtired November 14, 2023 at 7:32 am #

            @hustled enough: No, that is not how it works. You can’t make inducement a crime. Again, property is appraised. Loans are made based on appraised value.

            That’s a mighty fine looking dog you have there little boy.

            He oughta be, he cost me $500,000!

            Where did a little boy like you get his hands on that kind of money?

            It was easy. I traded the dog owner my two $250,000 cats.

          • Anthea November 14, 2023 at 9:28 am #

            @ hustled enough:

            You do not seem to understand rowdypiglet’s explanation of the way real estate transactions and appraisals work. Rowdypiglet pointed out that the judge valued the property per the tax appraiser’s valuation ($18 million).

            Assuming you own any property, you should know perfectly well that to presume that the tax appraiser’s valuation of a property is the true and correct valuation is absurd. In fact, I’d say it’s notoriously absurd–for the reasons rowdypiglet pointed out. It is not even an attempt at a realistic “appraisal” of the market value of a property. One reason you should know this is because you could (presumably) have a look at the tax appraiser’s valuation of your own home, as per your property tax bill.

            E.g., I sold my house almost two years ago. The actual sale price of the property was about 75% higher than the tax appraisal. NO ONE (who is not a moron) would imagine for a second that the tax appraiser’s valuation of their home was a realistic reflection of its market value.

            Either–as is typical of leftists–you don’t know anything about anything (usually due to never having done anything but gaze at your navel for your entire life)–or you are being disingenuous, also known as lying and making shit up.

            And I say that as a person who struggles not to call people liars and morons.

          • hustled enough November 14, 2023 at 3:21 pm #

            Hi oldanedtired,
            Would you allow that appraisals are not always done? Different firms work differently in this regard. You can make the claim that if they don’t do this, “then they get everything they deserve.” but I think that is an incredibly low bar. Caveat emptor is not necessarily the standard I want to go for… Also, what is the basis for the appraisal? Is there information that DT had that the appraiser might not have–like whether a piece of land has options on it to build, etc.? We live in an I’m perfect world, for sure, but do we wish to be in a world where you cannot trust what someone reports to you, except with exhaustive vetting? Our world up to this point does not rely on that. So, that is a problem.

            Hi Anthea,
            I think that you might want to broaden your mind as to what constitutes a crime. You, along with Rowdypiglet want to look at specific parts of a case, and ignore a whole pattern of behaviour. It would be interesting to know why Trump did not argue about such a low evaluation. Let me guess? It was because that low valuation serves his purposes to lower his tax bills, but a higher valuation helps him to secure loans. Now, I grant that you have the right to “put lipstick on a pig” but I don’t think you are owed the right to lie in order to get a loan that you would not otherwise get.

          • Paula D November 14, 2023 at 7:01 pm #

            If the tax appraisers raised property taxes to keep up with the inflated real estate markets since the 80s, there would be an actual revolution in this country.

            Banks and real estate (the F and the RE in the FIRE industry) are responsible for a good deal of the inflation we’ve experienced and the collapses of 2001 and 2008,

            People who bought their houses a long time ago, paid them off, and are struggling to pay their property taxes as it is, should no way have to pay taxes on what their homes could sell for in the current hot market.

            That is why property tax appraisals are lower than market value.

            Trump valued his home at what he thought the current market value was. The bank accepted that, with or without due diligence.
            Trump already paid back the loan.

            Clearly, having a state prosecutor bring a case against Trump is politically motivated, and it is an outrageous abuse of the legal system to attack the leading Rep. presidential candidate.
            We all know this. It’s just that shitlibs such as yourself think that using lawfare against your political opponents is a Good Thing to do.

            In other news, federal investigators are STILL baffled about the cocaine found in the residential part of the Biden White House.
            They have no suspects, they tell us, and no leads.

            I find that literally unbelievable. But I also can see the double standard of “justice” in this country, at this time.

            I know damn well that the shitlibs can see it too. The difference is that you think that the ends justify the means.

          • Socrates-Detroit November 14, 2023 at 10:18 pm #

            @Paula Depending on how long ago a long time ago is, I consider middle Americans who bought their houses a long time ago to be very fortunate.

            The house my parents bought in 1981 when I was in high school for $37 in suburban NY shows as $490 in Zillow today.

            More recently, 25 years ago I bought a house for $120 in Metro Detroit. Today it shows as $260 in Zillow.

            If I had to buy my house today, for $260, and I had the same job as 25 years ago, where my gross salary was 50% higher, I be in a much tighter squeeze. Basically, it would be very hard to save money, even after cutting other spending–like getting a cheaper car. The percent of gross that I net would be less today–but my must-pays have increased 100% or more–health insurance, other insurance, property taxes, utilities. And if you have to pay for a kid in college–forget about it!
            And I’m very fortunate. For blue-collar America, since 1973, real wages have declined, and not kept up with the cost of essentials.

            The economy has not been working for decades. The gap between what people need or want or think they need and what they can pay for has been widening since the 1970s.

            But the US does have a $1 trillion for the military industrial complex; $100 billion for Ukraine; $150-250 billion (depending on who you believe) for Israel since 1948, including an extra $10billion for the war there. And somehow, the US managed to bailout the economy in 2008-09, by which Wall Street and the top CEOs continued to make millions and billions, even though their poor decisions and duplicity–which however NEVER broke the law–created the mess. Amazing, eh?

          • Anthea November 15, 2023 at 3:16 am #

            @ hustled enough:

            Your comment pretty strongly indicates that you have never in your life purchased real estate or paid property taxes, and that you have not the slightest understanding with any phase of real estate transactions or property ownership.

            Apparently, you think the normal thing to do, when one gets ones property tax bill, is to look at the appraised value of your home per the tax assessor, see that your home is assessed for far less than its actual market value, and immediately call up the courthouse and demand that your property be assessed at a higher valuation, so you can pay more taxes.

            You might just as well come right out and admit that you are about 12 years old and have the temerity to offer your opinions–nay, insist on your opinions–in the company of adults.

            Don’t you have any parents or other adults in your life to explain these matters to you? Of course it could be that they tried and had to give up.

          • Anthea November 15, 2023 at 3:35 am #

            @ hustled enough:

            Another thing you would probably know, if you were over twelve, is that many or even most property owners have a wildly exaggerated notion as to the value of their property.

            Try making an offer to the owner of a vacant lot in BFE (bum-fuck Egypt)–perhaps a lot that is not even buildable, per city codes, and is thus basically worthless. You will find that the owner thinks his worthless lot is worth $30,000. Making an offer to buy a property is often taken by the owner to mean, “At last! My ship has come in!”

            Another way you can learn this lesson is to trying purchasing FSBO (for sale by owner) properties. When I was selling real estate and has a prospective buyer in the car, FSBOs would often catch their eye, and they’d take down the number and make plans to call the seller. So you’d think I’d be offended, right? Actually, I’d kind of laugh in my sleeve, because–obviously–I had already calle the seller, and I knew their asking price was about double the actual market value of the place. It always seemed to me that FSBO sellers always think their house is a gold mine.

            There is nothing abnormal, unlawful, or even dishonest about any of this. Some people think a property is worth X, and some people think it’s worth ten times that.

            And as far as someone getting a loan they wouldn’t otherwise get (by overstating the value of their collateral)…um…not gonna happen. The appraiser decides the value of the collateral.

          • hustled enough November 15, 2023 at 1:10 pm #

            Hi Anthea,
            It interests me that folks do not talk or address the issue about the asymmetry of information inherent in asking for loans. Lenders know more of what the assets look like than do others trying to look in. So, appraisals do not account for important information that the person asking for a loan might have. So, factor that in. If I hide information from you to secure a loan I would not otherwise get, this apparently is OK behaviour with you. I call that fraud.

          • hustled enough November 15, 2023 at 1:11 pm #

            That should be “borrowers know more” than lenders.

    • oldandtired November 13, 2023 at 3:11 pm #

      @hustled enough:” we see an overwhelming amount of evidence to support the claim that the former President inflated values of companies to secure otherwise unavailable loans.”

      Usually a lending institution is going to hire a commercial real estate appraiser to determine what the property is worth. The appraisals are lengthy and cost thousands of dollars.

      It does not matter what the borrower thinks his property is worth. A lender is going to lend an amount based on the appraisal.

      This is how it is done.

      No laws were broken. There are no victims. The loans were payed back, as I understand the situation.

      As an old, old man, I have seen a lot of sh*t go down over the years. This takes the cake.

      • oldandtired November 14, 2023 at 3:36 pm #

        @hustled enough: “ Would you allow that appraisals are not always done? ”

        No, I would not. Hustled, it’s just not how it works. How would the lender be able to calculate LTV?

        I would allow that probably a lot of people in NYC have never purchased a home, and therefore have never paid property tax. This could include the judge presiding over the case? So they might not know anything about the processes involved.

        Market price, appraised price and assessed price are three different things.

        Conflating one with the others makes no sense.

        • hustled enough November 15, 2023 at 12:23 am #

          Hi oldanedtired,
          According to the research I have done, it does happen (firms deciding not to do an appraisal). As to how often, that is a question for which I do not have an answer.

          • Anthea November 15, 2023 at 3:56 am #

            @ hustled enough:

            Your ignorance is so abysmal that it is hard to excuse it in a grownup.

  20. Beryl of Oyl November 13, 2023 at 10:53 am #

    I didn’t get “your comment is awaiting moderation” until Monday, and I’m not doing anything different than I’ve been doing all along.

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    • Paula D November 14, 2023 at 7:05 pm #

      It’s always been like that for most of us. I’m guessing that your good fortune was due to something at your end, and that something has now changed.

  21. JohnAZ November 13, 2023 at 10:55 am #

    I will try to make this short. Folks wanting more can look it up.

    Imprimis Sept. 2023 Hillsdale College publication
    Christopher Rufo

    Inside the Transgender Empire


    “The transgender movement is pressing its agenda everywhere. Most publicly, activist teachers are using classrooms to propagandize on its behalf and activist health professionals are promoting the mutilation of children under the euphemistic banner of “gender-affirming care”. The sudden and pervasive rise of this movement provokes two questions: where did it come from, and how has it proved so successful? The story goes deeper than most Americans know.”

    That is the opening paragraph.

    Late 1980s, a group of academics established the disciplines of “queer theory” and “transgender studies”.They believed that binary gender was used to oppress racial and sexual minorities. The white, male, heterosexual power structure, “heteronormativity” is a false binary ie, male and female are social constructs.

    “If men can become women, and women men, they believed that the natural structure of Creation could be toppled”

    Susan Stryker, M to F, professor at Arizona University, contends that the trans body is a “technological construction”. He considers himself a sociatal monster and he is destined to channel his monster rage and revenge against the “naturalized heterosexual order”; against “traditional family values; and against the “hegemonic oppression” of nature itself.

    One more paragraph

    “The transgender movement is inherently political.” (Aha!) “Its reconstruction of personal identity is meant to advance a collective political reconstruction or transformation. Some trans activists even view their movement as the future of Marxism. In a collection of essays titled “transgender Marxism”, activist Rosa Lee argues that trans people can serve as the new vanguard of the proletariat, promising to abolish heteronormativity in the same way that orthodox Marxism promised to abolish capitalism.”

    In the realm of “very interesting”,

    One activist is Jennifer Pritzker, nee, James Pritzker. He inherited part of Hyatt hotels. He was celebrated in the press as the first trans billionaire. He has donated millions to universities, school districts, hospitals and other activist organizations.

    So? Well, his cousin, Democrat governor of Illinois JB Pritzker has injected gender theory into state education curriculums and directed state Medicaid funds into transgender surgeries.

    The report goes on and on with other examples of the political takeover that this movement from the 1980s has accomplished.

    IMHO, this movement, created by mentally ill academia, is aimed at the political throat of this country. One of many knives.

    • neurodoc November 13, 2023 at 11:07 am #

      AZ: nice summary of the social psychopathology of the whole trans thing. A group at Johns Hopkins Psychiatry Dept (look it up, as i won’t cite the citation for obvious reasons) has found that the attempted/completed suicide rate among trans people is in the range of 60%/40% (not a typo) and the rate of serious psychopathology is around 85%. Also they find that the vast majority of trans people who have gender altering surgery in their teens and twenties regret it within 5 or so years. You can’t fool, or defeat, mother nature!!!! 🙂

      • TPTB-USA November 13, 2023 at 11:23 am #

        ” You can’t fool, or defeat, mother nature!” ~ neurodoc

        Until convinced otherwise, “they” are going to give it a try.

        How a Bioworks Startup Is Trying To Reprogram the World

      • SpeedyBB November 14, 2023 at 5:33 am #

        I tell you, Doc, that in the early 1950s I realized, after considerable experimentation (diddling with both sexes) that I was biased toward my own. Nevertheless, when I first read reports of the spectacular case of Christine Jorgensen, I cringed.

        The scalpel. The knife.

        Something seriously out of order with that immigrant Dane. And boy did she hustle to monetize it. Precursor of punk.

        Considering how insensitive most westerners are to their own bodies, in terms of what they eat, how they eat it and the other abuse they subject themselves to (guzzling mood enhancers), it is amazing that they live as long as they do.

        On the other hand, I’ve been around more than a few tough, wiry Japanese farmers out taking a hoe to their sweet potato fields, who faithfully down half a liter of 90-proof shochu a day and live to… 90.

        • Paula D November 14, 2023 at 7:11 pm #

          Trans has nothing to do with sexual orientation. It is actually anti-gay, because they claim that refusing to have sex with a trans person is transphobic. In your case, that would be you not being attracted to a woman who has cut off her breasts and hair, and claims she is now a man.

          Lesbians have been so hassled by men with “lady dicks” demanding that they have sex with them, that most lesbian bars have closed. Telling the men that lesbians are not attracted to men is “transphobic”, you see, because the men claim that they are actually women, and it is now illegal and dangerous to point out that they are not.
          So, absurd as it seems to normal people, men can go out to a lesbian bar, announce that they are a lesbian, and no woman can contradict him.

          It is obvious that the T doesn’t belong with the LBG, and there are now organizations saying so. It’s just that they are censored and attacked for saying so.

    • Opie November 13, 2023 at 11:31 am #

      I wish these trans people would become hermaphrodites , that way they could literally go fuck themselves.

      • Soul Forensics November 13, 2023 at 2:47 pm #

        Pass the after-sex cigarette from one hand to the other?

    • RD3 November 13, 2023 at 12:35 pm #

      What a revolting and hilarious character. Its big and fat like its cousin, the governor, but it wears a wig. It has actual biological children. That’s rich.

  22. buckeyeman November 13, 2023 at 11:00 am #

    The “darkness” of Soviet Russia lasted for 75 years and the after effects still reverberate. We’re not even at the low point yet.

    • Cankerpuss November 13, 2023 at 11:17 am #

      Buckeye, this is different. We are on the precupice of a global collapse of the established orders of our time, a 4th turning. We have to break free of this social order and the only way to do it is to have it destroy itself.

    • lateStarter November 13, 2023 at 11:19 am #

      Agreed. If any Americans want to get a good sense of the coming insanity they would do well to read ‘The Gulag Archipelago’. The details may differ but I have long thought that what happened in Russia after the events of 1917 was a good model for what has been happening in the US since ‘Cancel culture’ became a thing.

      • tuco22 November 13, 2023 at 11:22 am #

        I’ve read it, and I agree.

      • elysianfield November 13, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

        Late Starter,

        Yeah, read also of the Red Guard in China, and Pol Pot in Cam…bodia.

        Same basic playbook.

      • BackRowHeckler November 13, 2023 at 12:15 pm #

        Red Guard, Khymer Rouge, Soviet Comsomol… all good analogies … but what would have NKVD Chief Comrade Laventri Beria made of, say, a carload of clownish Trannies showing up at Elementary School #14, in Moscow in 1938, to read the Short Book on Communism to the little ones? I would say a detail of secret police would be dispatched from the Lubyanka, and the Trannies, if not shot shot post haste, would be on the first train north to the Vorkuta Gulag, still in Drag.

        • Soul Forensics November 13, 2023 at 2:50 pm #


          Beria was a bisexual dwarf. He probably would’ve had a private audience with a few of them before tapping a heavy to pull the trigger.

      • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 1:06 pm #

        Paula loathes Solzhenitsyn. How can anyone loathe such a man?

        Because she’s a Russian communist.

        She loves Putin because he was a Russian communist – but even he admits that Solzhenitsyn was right. How does she deal with that? Easy: she doesn’t.

        • Heartlander November 14, 2023 at 12:21 am #

          I don’t know anything about Paula, but I myself like Putin because he is intelligent, articulate, calm, rational, and passionately loves his own country. If only we in the U.S. could have such a president!

          Thanks to Putin, The Gulag Archipelago is part of the Russian high-school curriculum, and thousands of churches that the Communists had destroyed have been rebuilt all over Russia. The abortion rate has gone down drastically since Soviet days, “gay pride” parades and “transgender” surgeries are against the law, and every social and economic indicator has improved dramatically since Putin was first elected in 2000.

          Poverty, alcoholism, drug abuse, violent crime, homelessness, and suicides are dramatically down, while life expectancy and household income are dramatically up.

    • Socrates-Detroit November 13, 2023 at 11:28 am #

      Communism was, and is, a Western virus that was foisted on Russia by Germany in WW1 (logical, since the Communists took Russia OUT of WW1 1917) and sustained by WESTERN BIG CAPITAL, or the “globalists/WEF” of that era, for whom Communism then was what “wokism” is today. (Why does corporate American and Blackrock/Fidelity/Vanguard sustain wokeism, hmm?) Wokeism, an “interesting interpretation of history”, used to distort things; a wrong, and destabilizing philosophy that advances the globalists’ interests by being anti-God, and weakening the middle class.

      In any case, Communism imploded in the USSR.

      And speaking of the USSR, Soviet Russia, the core of the USSR, endured a horrible decade of adjustment, and also exploitation, real and imagined, by the West.

      Miraculously, the Russian were able to find their footing. Today, they are most self-sufficient, independent nation on earth.

      Food–check. Fuel–check. Guns–check. Warm water ports–no. But they can feed themselves and defend themselves.

      And ‘Murica just can’t bomb them like Iraq, or “invade” them like we have Syria. We can’t pick on Russia, can we? We can steal their financial assets (like they’re gonna steal YOURS tomorrow, you’ll see) and they just keep on going. Will you?

      Russia is the only nation where people are not suffering that is NOT subordinate to the dollar-denominated (aka nominally US-controlled, really controlled by BIG CAPITAL/the Globalists) global economic system. Even China must work within the constraints of the dollar at this time.

      This is why the “West” hates Russia and is trying to use Ukraine as a proxy to weaken it.

      “The nail that stands out must be hammered down”

      Good luck with that. I hope Americans wake up to reality that we are flirting with miscalculations that could lead to a nuclear exchange.

      As JHK has pointed out in the past, modern society in general, and America in particular, is very fragile. It would only take 4-5 nukes to hit 4-5 cities, and I mean Topeka, Dayton, Raleigh, (NOT NYC or the swamp on the Potomac), to vaporize them, and implode the rest of the US economy and society.

      Those “primitive” Russians could better absorb 4-5 such hits–to medium cities.

      Most countries can better withstand the punishments of wars than Americans. And yet, the US government keeps dispensing bombs and missiles and drone attacks as if they are candy. Not good karma.

      • TPTB-USA November 13, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

        “They” don’t even need to nuke US to cripple US.


        Retired Deputy Patrol Agent J.J.Carrell suggests that the US won’t be confronted with an army of tens of thousands of uninvited Jihadis, but more concerning, would be cells of 10, that could, for example, conduct a massacre at John F. Kennedy International Airport at a preprogrammed date and time.

        Imagine that, thousands of small Jihadis cells preprogrammed to spark-off at designated targets at a given date and time!

        “Joe Biden” has done a good job of setting US up for failure.

      • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 1:11 pm #

        Political Correctness is our own homegrown form of Communism. In its final, killing form it has morphed into “Woke”. It borrows much from Chinese Communism of course. And its pundits are often well read in Marx, etc.

        We will never take Mackinder’s point. We will never take over the Land Island. Oceania has failed!

        The Bear and the Dragon are smiling and licking their chops as the Eagle flops around in the reddened snow. Red because of its blood or the setting sun? Both.

      • Paula D November 13, 2023 at 3:26 pm #

        No, unlike the rest of you, I reject pre-internet propaganda, as well as the more recent propaganda.

        I find it fascinating how many people who now realize that their ruling overlords are lying to them, continue to cling to the propaganda they swallowed in the past.
        They have internalized it, and just like hustled, they refuse to let information dissuade them from their beliefs.

        • Paula D November 13, 2023 at 3:27 pm #

          That reply is in the wrong place. Oops.

      • Groundhog November 13, 2023 at 7:08 pm #

        “It would only take 4-5 nukes to hit 4-5 cities, and I mean Topeka, Dayton, Raleigh, (NOT NYC or the swamp on the Potomac), to vaporize them, and implode the rest of the US economy and society.”

        If Russia is going to launch nukes at the USA it seems to me the first target would be Washington DC – hit with a “tsar bomb” that utterly destroys not just DC but a good part of Virginia. How could we recover from just that one bomb?

      • SpeedyBB November 14, 2023 at 5:49 am #

        As a student of nuclear war since the early 1960s (pace, Herman Kahn) I would venture to say that it would only take one – count ’em – one nuclear detonation on the Homeland to do the job. Mass panic, evacuation of cities, governmental hesitation, indecision and confusion (Do we retaliate? And lose the rest?) and most painfully clarified would be the incompetence of our federal masters.

        Look at the effect of the WTC takedown, a fairly minor event on the scale of a Mogadishu or Beirut.

        I’d surmise that one attack on a third-tier city with an attractive naval base would be acutely perplexing.

        Washington, and even those who pull its strings, would not know (as we used to say in the military) whether to shave, shine, shit or salute.

        • Q. Shtik November 14, 2023 at 12:13 pm #

          would not know (as we used to say in the military) whether to shave, shine, shit or salute. – SpeedyBB


          I didn’t know whether to shit or go blind so I closed one eye and farted.

        • Socrates-Detroit November 14, 2023 at 10:24 pm #

          @SpeedyBB Excellent points.

  23. Cankerpuss November 13, 2023 at 11:16 am #

    Good write up, JHK. I too believe that in spite of the filth and wickedness that abounds that better days await us. However, my perspective comes from a Christian perspective as I believe we are living in times prophesied about by the ancient biblical prophets 3000 years ago. We are seeing the rise of the beast as described in the Book of Revelation, that beast being the world’s worship of money and filthy lucre. That beast is in the process of falling as the money is failing and “great and marvelous shall be the fall there of.”

    These dark days are culminating to a point where the great trumpets shall sound and Christ himself shall return and cleanse the world of the filth and wickedness, shall save Israel, and knowledge of him shall permeate the world. A thousand years of peace shall follow.

    • tuco22 November 13, 2023 at 11:27 am #

      Yeah, but there’s a lot of judgment to come before then, to the point that three-quarters of the human population will be killed. Out of the remaining survivors, among whom will be those that took the mark, Christ will separate the goats and sheep (saved from unsaved). I might add that the millenium won’t be for the unsaved. They’ve had their world.

      • OG November 13, 2023 at 12:21 pm #

        Worse! After Judgement Day, they will spend eternity tormented for their sins. Whatever they did in this realm as perps, they will receive infinity-fold as victims.

      • Socrates-Detroit November 13, 2023 at 12:27 pm #

        My opinion, based on my beliefs, is that we are living in the early stages of something big and unprecedented. The end times.
        That said, different Christian denominations have different interpretations of what the Bible has to say about this.

        • OG November 13, 2023 at 12:52 pm #

          Exactly. We are just setting up our blankets on the beach at dusk. The fireworks will be starting soon.

          That said, of course no man can know the date and time of His return. He will appear like a thief in the night so we must always be prepared for that moment. This mystery has us constantly do our best to choose right over wrong as we go about our business in this realm.

          Glory be to God!

        • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 1:16 pm #

          Come and See
          Behold, the Bridegroom cometh in the middle of the night, and blessed is that servant whom He shall find watching; and again unworthy is he whom He shall find heedless. Beware, therefore, O my soul, lest thou be overcome with sleep, lest thou be given up to death, and be shut out from the Kingdom. But rouse thyself and cry: Holy, Holy, Holy art Thou, O God, through the Mother of God, have mercy on us.

          (Troparion of the Bridegroom Service)

        • gustafson.robert.22 November 13, 2023 at 6:24 pm #

          An approaching shockwave of recognition that humans will not be the spoiled darlings of Earth for much longer.

    • OG November 13, 2023 at 12:34 pm #

      This is the beauty of the Word. You have your understanding of it while I have mine.

      I agree with 75% of what you say. We disagree on who/what the Beast is and the amount of prophesy yet to be fulfilled before the return of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

      I believe that AI is the Beast and that it will rise after biblical calamities resulting in, as tuco22 notes above, massive depop. I believe that the Beast shall rise from this chaos and the remaining masses will beg for the restoration of their previous life without toil. And devices! God, they have missed their devices!

      The Beast will have his financial. The Beast will have the vast majority take his mark in order to buy and sell. The Beast will be marvelled at. The Beast will be worshipped.

      And the Beast read that before you did.

      • OG November 13, 2023 at 12:36 pm #

        *financial system.

        • Socrates-Detroit November 14, 2023 at 10:47 am #

          Who do you all thing the Great Harlot is? The one for which the merchants of the world weep, for now that she is gone, they have no one to sell their wares to?

          I don’t know. But I wonder…

    • CrusherMuldoon November 13, 2023 at 7:45 pm #

      Sorry Cankerpuss, the Beast’s Biblical pronoun is “He” not “It”

  24. mitchellc November 13, 2023 at 11:36 am #

    For those who wonder about why the trans movement has grown so fast, one should first consider first principles about how the world is actually governed. I posted this above, but it serves to introduce the rationale for why the common man is subject to division:

    The thesis is that actions taken today are motivated by the “cover up”. But Jim doesnt speculate why the initial crimes were committed in the first place.

    He also doesn’t consider the older, bloodline families who have controlled western policy for 500 years, including banking, commerce and military affairs.

    That acknowledgement would shatter belief in sel determination, and force an analysis of whether a republic actually existed in any way effecting power.

    My position is, no, it never truly existed, but was a clever front designed as a substitute for an inefficient brute force police state.

    This ruling class well knew the discovery of vast reserves of stored solar energy would be abused by the masses who would exploit this precious resource, so they put into place certain mechanisms to be activated when the party inevitably ended.

    This is where we are today.

    The very first principle of power and control is divide and conquer the opposition, and the most fundamental division among all cultures is who owns the land, and who toils upon it; In other words, class.

    Subsequent division occurs within the working class, with Cain & Able providing an ancient description of those tending the fields vs those managing the herds.

    From this core separation, we have family organziations, cultural norms, seasonal practices, laws, customes and of course religious beliefs.

    These are all easily exploited differences, which have then been expanded by gender, race, ethnicity, nationalism, languages – you name it, it’s a wonder anyone gets along anywhere at anytime.

    So, fast foward to today, and we see an emphasis on more esoteric elements of division such as the woke ideology, including the trans movement.

    But, never lose sight of the fact that this can be traced back to the up/down paradigm of class – not the false left/right construct of politics – and the challenges elite thinkers are facing managing an epic downturn in resource availability and population reduction.

    • JohnAZ November 13, 2023 at 11:50 am #

      I do not believe that your elite thinkers give one damn about the approaching cliff that mankind is facing.

      They are too busy building Mc Mansions in New Zealand and fighting over who is going to be the manor owners in the new feudalism.

      Politics, national level, will die. Maybe manors, maybe city states?

      • OG November 13, 2023 at 12:15 pm #

        You sell the capstone short.

      • malthuss November 13, 2023 at 5:43 pm #

        What of chemtrails…they have to breath the air.

        • benr November 13, 2023 at 6:37 pm #

          That is to cool the planet and redirect some of the heat back into space…if you can believe all that.

          There is audio out there of Obama admitting there is a chemtrail geofarming program.


          Whoops there it is chemtrails right there.

    • TPTB-USA November 13, 2023 at 1:19 pm #

      As you say, the majority of issues are just “noise” to provide cover.

      Do you think the following is anywhere close to the target?

      Special Report: The World’s Most Powerful Secret Societies: Who’s Really Running the World?

  25. D from OR November 13, 2023 at 11:44 am #

    This is playing out in Portland with the current teacher’s strike.

    The head of the union (PAT) is a transplant out of the Bronx NY. She came to Portland a few years back to finish her teaching degree and wormed her way into the union leadership. Likely guided there.

    A cat lady.

    The strike is over money for salary increases that neither the school district or the state have.

    As the strike has entered the third week it has become apparent that PAT leadership has had their math wrong the entire time. Their assumptions of “secret” funds was actually a lack of understanding of the way the state legislature budgets the funds annually.

    PPS has met the offers of salary increases but PAT wants more. If these demands are met then over $100 million in cuts will need to be made to the schools.

    The idiocy is maddening.

    At the beginning the local news media painted a picture of universal support for the teachers. That it “was for the kids” and there were few dissenting voices in the community at large. The teachers felt quite emboldened by this notion and they created a party atmosphere while picketing in their matching blue outfits (some dyed their hair) playing music and dancing. It was repulsive.

    Of course these morons didn’t consider that at week three this doesn’t play well and saying “its for the kids” is an insult to most parents.

    Local news media is now having a hard time with the narrative which is interesting to witness.

    Meanwhile parents try and figure out what to do with their kids. Given the poor quality of the PPS education in the first place many are seeking alternatives.

    As JHK points out bureaucrats “desperate to evade the blame for and consequences” will create a crumbling from within. It begins here and there but eventually all centralized power structures will fall victim.

    Integrity is a thing.

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    • BackRowHeckler November 13, 2023 at 12:02 pm #

      That Portland teachers strike is even making the local news here, Its a national story, with huge implications.

      • RD3 November 13, 2023 at 1:02 pm #

        Portland teachers have never served their students better. One more day out of the classroom is one less day of globohomo indoctrination.

        • D from OR November 13, 2023 at 1:39 pm #

          I completely agree.

        • cowbell81 November 13, 2023 at 3:15 pm #

          Very true, the institution of public education needs to crumble before society can be made anew. If the president had any cajónes, he would abolish the Dept. of Education on Day 1.

  26. BackRowHeckler November 13, 2023 at 11:56 am #

    It’s too late for cities like Philadelphia, San Francisco or Portland. The damage has been done, the squalor & disfunction goes too deep. Look for those benighted wastelands to sink ever further, to slowly depopulate, to end up as smoking ruins inhabited solely by fentanyl addicted zombies, wild dogs, & federally sponsored free needle clinics.

    Rule by cat lady ~ ‘Cat Lady in Charge’ ~50 year old childless, unmarried, embittered kronez with PhDs, alone in their dank, unkempt condos, smelling like cat piss and the cheap, boxed wine they drink, surrounded by fifty cats all over the place, Subaru Outback parked in the garage, TV flickering … thinking up ways to get even with men, the system and the world.

    • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 1:21 pm #

      Preach. Time for Patriarchy again. Time for squares who have both pocket protectors and black belts. Who come to school in a Volvo with a rifle rack.

      Mr Rogers caved to these people and he shouldn’t have. He was weak, but still so much better than they were.

      When he returns (like Arthur) he will take their cats away from them and give them to the worthy.

  27. elysianfield November 13, 2023 at 11:57 am #

    ” The wicked will answer”

    Maybe, but what will be the question?

    “Sir, would you like another bottle of Chianti, another lobster, and a bowl of 10-count shrimp?”

    (The wicked)…”Yeah….”

    • stelmosfire November 13, 2023 at 12:17 pm #

      Well if we’re having Chianti, I’ll have the liver with a side of fava beans.

    • cowbell81 November 13, 2023 at 12:37 pm #

      How about one of those bounteous seafood towers that Peter ordered at that fancy restaurant out east?

      • BackRowHeckler November 13, 2023 at 5:52 pm #

        And didn’t even eat it lolol.

  28. Beryl of Oyl November 13, 2023 at 12:06 pm #

    Something Scott Adams said:

    “How strong is the persuasion power of TikTok?

    It can make a kid change genders and shoot up a school.

    I won’t make a claim about any specific kid. But if you don’t know TikTok has that level of power, you don’t understand what is happening around you.

    Hypnotists (like me) will tell you it’s not possible to hypnotize someone to do something that is dangerous to themselves or others. And that’s generally true.

    What we don’t tell you is that we can change your preferences. That gets you to the same place.

    In other words, I can NOT hypnotize you to shoot your neighbor for no good reason.

    But I can brainwash you over time to think the neighbor has it coming. It gets you to the same place.

    TikTok is that powerful.”

    Joe did tell us about a Tik Tok army.

    • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 1:26 pm #

      Good distinction. Did you hear about “beans”? Countless girls all over the world thought they had Tourettes’s syndrome. They thought they couldn’t stop yelling out the word, “beans”. Mass hysteria spread via TikToc. No long term harm done I assume, at least for most. Even Liberals agree on that one. But of course deny that the same type of hysteria spreads trannyism and from countless venues. Oh much harm done. Irreversible.

      • Soul Forensics November 13, 2023 at 3:22 pm #

        The nocebo effect is a helluva drug.

      • Jimpa November 14, 2023 at 11:43 am #

        Look up Tic Toc Tics. It’s a thing. Crazy.

  29. cowbell81 November 13, 2023 at 12:38 pm #

    Why is Newsom rolling out the red carpet to his China dictator friend this Wednesday? Should be an interesting thing to see, for sure. Does he really think this would help propel him in his candidacy to President? Is this quite possible one of the first steps of many in the soon-to-be China takeover of the USA mainland?

    • Beryl of Oyl November 13, 2023 at 12:49 pm #

      To let XI know his amicable relationship with the politicians he bought will continue with their replacements.

      • RD3 November 13, 2023 at 12:54 pm #

        He spruced it up, like a used car salesman has his stock detailed. Xi is interested in purchasing the parts of America he doesn’t yet own, and Newsom, who looks like a slick rat of a salesman, shined up San Francisco to make sure it was to Xi’s liking…

        • OG November 13, 2023 at 3:31 pm #

          “You can shine a turd all that you like … but it’s still a turd.”

          And, from what I hear (and see on yt), San Fran has many, many, many turds to shine. They’re everywhere.

    • Mike Sherman November 13, 2023 at 9:04 pm #

      Huh? Why the pearl-clutching? Drumpf would have him in Washington DC and be telling everyone at the presser afterward what a great blow-job Xi gives.

      • Groundhog November 15, 2023 at 6:34 pm #

        You’ve just put up one of the most childish three sentence posts I’ve ever seen. This is how we used to talk in high school.

    • Paula D November 14, 2023 at 7:20 pm #

      Do you really not realize that the Chinese have been buying property in San Francisco for decades?

      And I’m not talking about Chinatown, which has been there for more than a hundred years.

      37% of SF residents are Asian, and you people are clutching your pearls about your scary future????

      SMDH over here.

  30. cowbell81 November 13, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

    Another note on California….so that big fire that occurred under the I-10 overpass that resulted from intense fire of pallets being stored beneath. Why on earth did they think storing pallets here would be a good idea? And now the I-10 will be closed for months, and they are encouraging people to take public transit. Sounds oddly suspicious now, doesn’t it? And doesn’t it also sound reminiscent of that big tanker that blew up out east and closed down I-95 for months on end? Put the pieces together people, we are being systematically destroyed.

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    • Beryl of Oyl November 13, 2023 at 12:47 pm #

      Oh, they put firewood under the bridge?

      • OG November 13, 2023 at 3:24 pm #

        And who is “they”? Maybe TPTB in a black op but, even more likely, maybe simply the homeless storing fuel.

    • stelmosfire November 13, 2023 at 1:08 pm #

      I thought the exact same thing. Nothing as hot as a rip-roaring pallet fire. They even managed to burn a fire truck. In the pics I saw the concrete was badly spalled. exposing the rebar underneath. Looked like a typicle 75 yo New England bridge from years salt corrosion . The pinheads accelerated the process with a massive fire. Well traffics not bad in LA so that’s some good luck for the residents.

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  31. Mister Roboto November 13, 2023 at 1:26 pm #

    I think Matthias Desmet is onto something with his “mass formation” theory. A socially-atomized society that is about nothing more than personal material gratification is eventually going to start going bonkers, and this “bonkerness” will not just show up in aggregations of individuals, it will become collective and start creating self-organizing, self-perpetuating “bonkerness”. Some people think that demonic entities could be helping this process along, and I certainly don’t categorically rule that possibility out.

    • D from OR November 13, 2023 at 1:54 pm #


      Parasites are consuming the host.

  32. Nigel Tufnel November 13, 2023 at 1:51 pm #

    Interesting subject Jim brings up regarding leadership qualities and the lack thereof in females. Females tend to be more self protective, more risk averse, because eggs are rarer than sperm.

    But the fucked up leadership in our world comes from both xx and xy. Strong leadership comes from the perfect mix of testosterone and serotonin.

    Look at Justin trudeau: he presents as a male, but it looks like he got a big dose of estrogen enhancers and endocrine disruptors when he was still a tadpole.

    We’re being attacked on multiple levels – and mind control via chemical exposure is one of those.

    • RD3 November 13, 2023 at 2:10 pm #

      Trudeau’s mom was a tramp and he had to watch his father get cucked by her. I think his whole life has been a social experiment about raising the perfect, self-loathing Western man. Canada, after all, is the Petri dish where all of the evil ideas of the elites are beta tested.

  33. jim November 13, 2023 at 1:52 pm #

    One of your best JHK.

    I love your courage in questioning the adequacy of
    some of the major theoretical explanations for why we are in the mess we are in–in my opinion none go deep enough.

    I also like your hopefulness:

    “Take heart in these darkening days. The light will not be distinguished. It will return, as everything does in the universe of endless cycles.”

    But, best of all is your choice of the quote of Aimee Therese on X that says, in part, that “…ideology binds and blinds.”–especially when ideology is combined with both individual and collective psychopathology.

    Then, the pure power games and differing political agendas are in complete charge–and the only game in town becomes the end justifies any means–with no limits–in the pursuit of a particular outcome (including my own).

    I hope, at some point, you will describe in more concrete detail your interpretation of the dynamic of “endless cycles,” because, from my perspective, we seem to now find ourselves, once again, in the starting over phase where there are only questions.

    What are the deeper human impulses that are driving us?

  34. Jarek November 13, 2023 at 2:17 pm #

    Anglin declares himself King of the Irish after a paen to Shane McGowan of the Pogues and John Wayne.

    It’s a lyrics video, which is nice, because who the fuck can understand this accent – the field Irish talk (and sing) like they’ve got a mouth full of mashed potatoes. But I will paste the lyrics below, as that’s probably more comfortable. It’s about a diaspora Irish going home to the motherland.

    I love “fare thee well John Wayne, there’s nothing left to say.” It speaks to my own experience of exile from the United States. I think that’s really the key line, summing it all up. (Note: the lyrics read “gone away,” but Shane is clearly saying “John Wayne.” Even if it’s by accident, which I don’t think it is, that is what he is saying. It makes perfect sense in context, as Wayne was both a symbol of everything Americana, as well as a proud drunken Irishman.)

    Further, forever at the center of my being will be the phrase: “I’m a free born man of the USA.” Wherever I am, those words are in the front of my brain, and define my relationship to the entire world and the universe.

    Also, all the stuff about drinking and fighting and frisky women and the calling of the rosary.

    Here are the lyrics:

    The Cadillac stood by the house
    And the yanks, they were within
    And the tinker boys, they hissed advice
    “Hot-wire her with a pin”

    When we turned and shook as we had a look
    In the room where the dead men lay
    So big Jim Dwyer made his last trip
    To the shores where his father’s laid

    15 minutes later we had our first taste of whiskey
    There was uncles giving lectures on ancient Irish history
    The men all started telling jokes and the women, they got frisky
    By five o’clock in the evening every bastard there was piskey

    Fare thee well, going away, there’s nothing left to say
    Farewell to New York City, boys, to Boston and PA
    He took them out with a well-aimed clout, we often heard him say
    “I’m a free born man of the USA”

    He fought the champ in Pittsburgh and he slashed him to the ground
    He took on Tiny Tartanella and it only went one round
    He never had no time for reds, for drink or dice or whores
    But he never threw a fight when the fight was right
    So they sent him to the war

    Fare the well, gone away, there’s nothing left to say
    With a slainte Joe and Erin go my love’s in Amerikay
    The calling of the rosary, Spanish wine from far away
    I’m a free born man of the USA, yeah

    This morning on the harbour, when I said goodbye to you
    I remember how I swore that I’d come back to you one day
    And as the sunset came to meet, the evening on the hill
    I told you I’d always love you, I always did, I always will

    Fare thee well, gone away, there’s nothing left to say
    But to say adieu to your eyes as blue as the water in the bay
    To big Jim Dwyer, the man of wire who was often heard to say
    “I’m a free born man of the USA”

    I’m a free born man of the USA
    I’m a free born man of the USA

    We’re listening to Om now, as we prepare to get weird.

    But this is my favorite song.

    By the way, Shane even has a song about Summer in Siam.

    “Siam” is the traditional word for Thailand. In case anyone didn’t know that.

    It’s a really good place for Irishmen to get blackout drunk without any consequences beyond waking up in jail and having to pay a reasonable fine to be let out in time for breakfast.

    There’s also one for my blood brothers down under suffering from the curse of The Eire. We shouldn’t forget we have a large number of master race Irishmen down there. In fact, I may have to annex Australia or parts of it for Greater Ireland.

    Best music.

    I prefer to listen to live performances generally, since we have that option because of YouTube, but in most of those Shane is too drunk. There are a couple of good ones.

    One of the covers of one of their lesser albums honors the last Irish king.

    Their last one before me, I mean.

    Jack, unfortunately, is dead, and so is his heir.

    I’m the king of the Irish now.

    Jarek: He’s not wrong. Once the WASPS started to get really weird, we should have taken control over America. JFK should have declared himself King over both Ireland and the greater Irish diaspora. No more election after the Cuban Missile Crisis. Just lots of footage of the Kennedys playing touch football, Jack and Jackie, Jack walking on the beach, and ruffling his dog’s mane as he sits watching the sun set.

  35. Roundball Shaman November 13, 2023 at 2:21 pm #

    “The sun is low on the horizon… darkness creeps in like a home invasion of your mind.”

    This is how things might appear at times. But they are foolers. They try to lead one astray… to send one in the wrong direction… to capture and possess our body and spirit but they are lies to give the impression that The Dark is the actual template of our World.

    In truth, the sun always remains blazing in its full power and glory whether we acknowledge that or not. And our minds are magnificant quantum conscious computers that can embrace any reality and run any software we choose at any moment of the day or night. The Program of the Light or that of The Dark. The Lie or The Truth.

    While our World can seem to dim The Light and give comfort to The Dark… The Light is always there – waiting for us to feel it’s warmth and power and majesty. Even when that light appears to dim and the Dark seems to be enveloping our Planet.

    “Have you ever felt more alone?”

    It’s easy to feel alone when feeling sad or threatened or weak. That is our fear-based program coming to the fore to scare us into being vulnerable and passive and afraid. But those again are lies embedded in the Program of Life to lead us astray from the knowledge that we always possess everything we need in the glory of our Consciousness. For we are each unique fractals of the Ground of Being which is all Power and all Things in all Times. That is us… and we are It. And it is in times when the ‘sun is low’ and ‘darkness creeps in’ that we must embrace those truths are hold them close to our bosom.

    “You are probably desperate to understand why this is happening…”

    We crave for understanding and finding meaning in things. This is part of our very core and nature. And when things don’t seem to make sense… this makes us question our World view and our personal place in it.

    So what is the source of the dilemma? Is it that the Times are ‘too tough’… or that our understanding is too limiting and vulnerable? The toughness of Times is the tension that was build into the very fabric of our dimension. Our Planet was never intended to be Heaven much as we might wish it to be. And our minds and World view are always in need of expansion and revision and cleansing if we are to gain greater insights and understanding of Reality as it is.

    “Take heart in these darkening days. The light will not be extinguished.”

    This is the true lesson of living through days of intense challenge. To really know that The Light always obliterates the Dark… as darkness cannot exist in Light. To know that we are the gods of our own consciousness… and that we make a thousand choices each and every day whether we are moving in the direction of The Light or The Dark.

    To know that All Times – the Good and the Horrific – are but temporary way-stops on the road of our cosmic journey. That we are both the pilot and the passenger on this bizarre and magnificent Wild Ride.

    And to always know the The Light lives inside of us. Always. We are all in the quantum sense made of Light. So how could this be otherwise?

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    • Soul Forensics November 13, 2023 at 4:03 pm #

      “To really know that The Light always obliterates the Dark… as darkness cannot exist in Light.” — Roundball

      A false duality.

      Darkness only has reality when contrasted with Light. (You can put those terms in lower case if you’re just referring to physical vision.)

      Darkness comes into clear relief when light is bright. I’m looking at the shadow cast by my window frame right now as the sun streams in. Similarly, Darkness is brought into stark relief only when the bright Light of God, or the Truth, (or whatever you want to call it) is apparent.

      If there were no light, darkness would be the natural element. In the relative world, we not only need both, but the world would be impossible without both.

      • Soul Forensics November 13, 2023 at 4:19 pm #

        The Taoist yin-yang visual symbol is also useful here.

      • Roundball Shaman November 13, 2023 at 4:59 pm #

        Soul Forensics: “Darkness comes into clear relief when light is bright.”

        For physical eyes and vision – yes. But of course I’m speaking of Spiritual Light and Spiritual Darkness. And Spiritual Light is Divinity while Spiritual Darknes is the absence of that Divinity. And Divinity as Light must exist or not exist (‘existentially’) in one single State only and not the other… unless one argues that Divinity is both Good and Evil existing at once in one State — which creates a WHOLE lot of issues. And if Divinity is in fact both the Good and the Evil… then the eternal struggle between the two is one colossal waste of time and energy for everybody in Eternity. And pone has no cosmic incentive to work to be ‘good’.

        Certainly there are contrasts that exist with polarities that give segments of that polarity scale definition. But ‘The Good/The LIght’ does not need such (spiritual) polarity to exist as such. Universe could theoretically be entirely The Good without need for Darkness to give it that existence as such.

        Goodness is its own Reality and is self-justifying without giving purpose and function in any way to anything Dark. Goodness does not have such a profane dependency on darkness. That would give darkness a necessary spiritual cosmic function which it does not deserve (and was never intended by The Divine as decribed in the Garden of Eden original State of perfection story).

        • Roundball Shaman November 13, 2023 at 5:02 pm #

          “And pone has no cosmic incentive to work to be ‘good’.”

          Should be: And NO ONE has any cosmic incentive to work to be ‘good’.

          • pone November 13, 2023 at 9:33 pm #

            For awhile there I thought you were talking about me. I thought, WTF is this?

        • Soul Forensics November 13, 2023 at 6:15 pm #

          I also referenced the spiritual in my post.

          We all have Darkness and Light in our souls. They are constantly in conflict with each other, except for a very few enlightened souls who’ve transcended that duality.

          The separation you’re talking about is clearly demarcated because in the monotheistic traditions, and the duality can never be resolved, incorporated — at bottom, accepted, which means that humans who believe in those theocratic ideas are tragically frustrated, and rely on an outer force (God, in this concept) to make it right. It can only happen in the next world, which is why so many are now — including some on this board — giddy with the prospect of apocalypse and ‘eternal life’ and the ‘separate Light’.

          The Absolute is Light, but we live in a Relative world.

          • Roundball Shaman November 13, 2023 at 6:38 pm #

            Soul Forensics: “We all have Darkness and Light in our souls. They are constantly in conflict with each other… so many are now… giddy with the prospect of apocalypse and ‘eternal life’ and the ‘separate Light’.”

            This is where a spirit of compassion enters into this. Those who seek apocalypse are very often tortured spirits who are hurting and just want that pain to end – quickly. Those hurting spirits who do seek this kind of fast, horrendous end to this World must always be approached with a spirit of understanding and compassion. We who do not seek such a quick and violent end to this Planet are also hurting in our own ways… but that kind of end is NOT the way to deal with our discomfort.

            The ‘Darkness and Light in our souls’ that you reference is in fact the whole reason for this dimensional plane. This plane was deliberately set up as a cosmic lab to see how these two cosmic forces compete and interact with each other. The necessity of having those competing forces embedded in the fabric of this Universe is the Intent of Divinity for this realm. And as uncomfortable and painful as this can get at times (like those of today) we must always realize that we were intended to feel our way through the pain and darkness and never surrender to it. And The Divine is underpinning all of it.

            Those who seek apocalypse think that the way to find the Light is to hasten utter destruction. But that is not celebrating Light but surrender (the wrong kind of ‘surrender’). We grieve for… and with… them in our shared desire to dwell in better times and more humane days.

          • Soul Forensics November 13, 2023 at 6:49 pm #

            “Those who seek apocalypse are very often tortured spirits who are hurting and just want that pain to end – quickly. Those hurting spirits who do seek this kind of fast, horrendous end to this World must always be approached with a spirit of understanding and compassion.” — Roundball

            Disagree aggressively.

            Those who are hurting because of their own misunderstanding or malice are also the ones who can be persuaded to strap explosives on their vests or backpacks, or, worse, carry a dirty suitcase b.omb, all in order to quicken the ‘end times’.

            Each side, each religion, has their separate God, with the same root. So which side has the separated Light?

        • Jarek November 13, 2023 at 6:25 pm #

          Esoteric Christianity and Islam both speak of Divine Darkness – the Light being so bright that we can only experience it as darkness or unknowing, at least in our currently lowly form in the fallen world.

          So psychological not metaphysical or having to do with God per se, but rather of our experience of God.

          • Soul Forensics November 13, 2023 at 6:43 pm #

            Yes, which is why a wise teacher will say, along with many traditional Christians, to just have faith in the journey.

            You can’t understand until you understand.

          • Roundball Shaman November 13, 2023 at 6:48 pm #

            Jarek: “Esoteric Christianity and Islam both speak of Divine Darkness – the Light being so bright that we can only experience it as darkness or unknowing, at least in our currently lowly form in the fallen world. So psychological not metaphysical or having to do with God per se, but rather of our experience of God.”

            Quantum physics teaches that something can EXIST – and NOT EXIST – at the same time simultaneously. This concept challenges conventional human thinking… but conventional human thinking is not the answer to anything and must be transcended for one to embrace their Divine-side nature.

            And this enters into our ‘experience of God’ as you put it. Since we each are a fractal of Divinity… we possess all the Spirit and Nature of that Divinity. But we act out on this Earth as human avatars pretending that we are NOT divine but somehow inherently flawed and defective. So, that creates our identity crisis of being both Divine and feeling and ‘acting’ ‘Not Divine’ at the same time. And THAT is the real source of most of our problems.

          • Jarek November 14, 2023 at 12:01 am #

            Zen: the Uncarved Block
            Masonry: the Carved Stone

            The Masonic approach of carving or sculpting (Plato) is best for beginners. That’s the only way your going to approach the Imago Dei already within the stone.

            But you can never reach it. It will reveal itself to you when you are ready. The work prepares the “man”. It doesn’t find much less create what is sought for.

            God exists as Existence. We are mere effects who need not have existed. But since we do, we should be grateful – at the carving stage.

          • Roundball Shaman November 14, 2023 at 2:52 pm #

            Jarek: “God exists as Existence. We are mere effects who need not have existed. But since we do, we should be grateful – at the carving stage.”

            (We) ‘need not have existed’.

            That’s one way to look at it. But there’s another way. Since ‘God as Existence’ is Cosmic (Divine) Intelligence at work… and ‘It’ saw fit to have us all exist… then we ‘had’ to ‘be’ through what used to be called Divine Providence and Will. Thus, we become part of the intended foundation of Existence.

            And yes, we should constantly be thankful for this Experience of Life and our journey in it.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 14, 2023 at 11:51 pm #

            @Roundball Shaman et al.:

            I remind myself periodically that I inherited this body, this fantastic, wonderful, priceless machine, a result of billions of years of evolution and fine-tuning.

            We are the gods. We are the universe talking and thinking and experiencing.

            Piotr Cieslik – Chapter 2

            “Theory is man’s feeble attempt to define life
            Nothing can substitute experience
            I know nothing but feel everything
            The universe already told me”


          • Roundball Shaman November 15, 2023 at 12:24 pm #

            The Man They Call Zazelle: “… I inherited this body, this fantastic, wonderful, priceless machine, a result of billions of years of evolution and fine-tuning. We are the gods. We are the universe talking and thinking and experiencing.”

            Absolutely. If only more people on this Earth had the understanding that you articulated.

            If people would sit down without distraction for five minutes and think about all the infinitely countless things that had to occur and line up for them to arrive on this Planet… most of our human problems would vanish in a instant. Because people would realize they we are in fact miracles of Creation and not the savage beasts of bundled ‘stuff’ pushed together into a shape. And they would be forever changed.

            As the sages have told us over thousands of years… we need to wake up to who and what we are. It is because we fail to recognize our own Godhood that we have created a hell on Earth.

          • Groundhog November 15, 2023 at 7:18 pm #

            “As the sages have told us over thousands of years… we need to wake up to who and what we are. It is because we fail to recognize our own Godhood that we have created a hell on Earth.”

            So what happened? Did God fail? Or maybe in comparison to God we’re really just a bunch of mindless fruit flies that aimlessly flit about not knowing why we’re here or were we’re going. We aren’t God – a lot of us are mostly just a bunch of brainwashed assholes with minds that haven’t advanced much beyond the reptilian stage. We’re beiing driven by our lowest animal instincts and impluses.

            Dogs, if anything, are far closer to God than humans are. Dogs are capable of 100% loyalty and unconditional love for their owners and families. Humans not so much – especially the unconditional love part. If God is love then that explains maybe why dog is god spelled backwards. We’ve been outclassed in many ways by animals. We aren’t nearly as advanced as we think we are. Take the fossil fuels out of the picture and we’ll be living a 17th century lifestyle and will probably not think of ourselves as being that smart. We’ve got intelligence but zero wisdom.

          • Groundhog November 15, 2023 at 7:58 pm #

            Another comment about canines. Wolves are just as close to God in the issue of being a faithful partner of the opposite sex. Wolves mate for life. Wolf packs live in family units and practice strict monogamy. Dogs are just wolves that have spent far too much time around humans who have over a 50% divorce rate. A male dog will indescriminately mate with any other bitch in heat. Wolves in some ways obey God’s commandments much better than humans, and they do it instinctively – it’s wired into the wolf’s DNA.

          • Roundball Shaman November 15, 2023 at 9:08 pm #

            Groundhog: “So what happened? Did God fail?”

            What we call God cannot ‘fail’ because God is ‘It’s’ own standard. In other words, one cannot elevate some ‘human’ standard above God and use that in judgment because God is the Ground of All Being and thus beyond any human measure of judgment. In short, what God ‘is’ cannot be seen as failure in any manifestation.

            “Or maybe in comparison to God we’re really just a bunch of mindless fruit flies that aimlessly flit about not knowing why we’re here or were we’re going. We aren’t God – a lot of us are mostly just a bunch of brainwashed assholes…”

            I would characterize this instead as God as ‘Us’ – we humans — choosing in many individuals to deny It’s own nature for the sake of knowing that experience. In short, the Earth was designed as a grand Lab Experiment to see what a combination of acknowledging our divinity and also denying our divinity turns out to create. So this in a sense this should not be seen as some kind of ‘Divine failure’ as we might commonly define that.

            “Humans not so much – especially the unconditional love part.”

            Many humans do in fact know unconditional love. There are countless Mothers (and Fathers) that love their children unconditionally and in many cases more than their very own lives. And this can also manifest in other forms of relationship.

            “If God is love then that explains maybe why dog is god spelled backwards.”

            They meant to spell God-as-Love as ‘C-A-T’… but they got confused. ICats lovers will fully understand. And cat owners also know unconditional love!…)

  36. dorn November 13, 2023 at 3:34 pm #

    Perhaps Xi is there to survey his lands, so his lackey’s cleaned the place up, to not seem lacking.

    • dorn November 13, 2023 at 3:38 pm #

      Perhaps Xi is there to survey his lands, so his lackeys cleaned the place up, to not seem lacking.

      • BackRowHeckler November 13, 2023 at 5:41 pm #

        Xi Jinping sees possibilities in San Francisco. First priority: clear the f#kkng junkies, vagrants, drunks, addicts & mentally ill off the streets, then hose down the streets. 2nd priority: move out the homosexuals, trannies, flamers, nancy boys etc. Move them where? Xi doesn’t care “Just get them the hell out of here. Open up some camps in Oakland, I don’t give a sh#t, those people are useless.”

        Then Xi and his PLA can get down to the serious business of imposing order in the squalid SF streets & begin extracting resources — human and natural — from the city and its surroundings — fish from the bay, gold in the hills, labor for agricultural projects. Xi will straighten out the dystopic American sh#thole the Bay Area has become & put it back to work again.

        Who’s the Coolie now?

        • thirdcoastlegend November 13, 2023 at 6:56 pm #


          Totally agree.

          Xi will be dictating terms of America’s surrender to Biden.

          He may also lay out the initial planned disposition of the PLA/PLAN/PLAAF occupation forces.

        • Jarek November 14, 2023 at 12:03 am #

          Tens of millions of opium addicts disappeared when Communism took over. They were given one chance to get clean. That’s it.

          To find freedom in work! To sing, How I love to haul manure up the mountain to fulfill Mao’s dream.

  37. docmartin November 13, 2023 at 3:55 pm #

    Perversely fascinating how antisemites turn into terrorists when Israel is on the menu. The majority of the “ thoughtful” posters here are closet bullies who desperately need to punish someone for their failed personal or professional lives as they hide in their safe tunnels behind their computer screens. My daddy told me very early in life that most failed humans need a whipping boy. How true, how very true.

    • OG November 13, 2023 at 4:27 pm #

      Antisemites are everywhere! Here! There! In the closet! Under your bed!

      Did your “daddy” also tell you that anyone who criticizes Israel’s bombing of Gaza and thus killing ten of thousands of people is an antisemite?

      It must be weird delusional thinking that any and all criticism of a foreign government’s policies and murderous actions is wrong and pure evil simply for existing!

      How true, how very true.

      • King of Comedy November 13, 2023 at 11:00 pm #

        I just saw a picture of IDF troops in the captured Hamas “Parliament “. Apparently it’s the deliberative body where they decide whether to throw someone off a three or a four story building. Alas, due to the fact that Hamas are great fighters against babies and the elderly but not so much against actual soldiers, that “river to the sea” thingie looks like it’s on indefinite hold. That’s going to be quite the testosterone hit to the already low-T crowd but what are you gonna do? Reality is a bitch.

        One question comes to mind though. For those like you who think damn near everything from the invention of the wheel on has been a false flag, how can a person of that conspiratorial bent swallow the transparent Hamas bullshit hook, line and sinker? My theory that every single dead Pali is the result of Hamas’s shitty 50% failure rate rockets hitting their own turf is equally as plausible as your “tens of thousands” fantasy. Or how about my other theory that Klaus Schwab really really wants to build a 15 minute city in Gaza and he’s secretly injecting Palis with a deadly vaccine and then making it look like an Israeli air strike. Prove me wrong, grandpa.

      • Jarek November 14, 2023 at 12:30 am #

        Daniel 2:44

        [The Israelites] warred against Midian, as the LORD commanded Moses, and slew every male…. And the people of Israel took captive the women of Midian and their little ones; and they took as booty all their cattle, their flocks, and all their goods. All their cities in the places where they dwelt, and all their encampments, they burned with fire, and took all the spoil and all the booty, both of man and of beast …Moses said to them, “Have you let all the women live? …Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him. But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.”

        Jarek: Is this the God we worship? Sounds more like Allah. Maybe Marcion was right to say that the Old Testament needed to be jettisoned. This is a question above everybody’s pay grade. It would take Christ himself to parse the many good parts from the many bad.

        • Groundhog November 15, 2023 at 2:42 pm #

          ” But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.”

          So God commands Moses to mix the Baal worshipping DNA into original Israel’s bloodlines? How many Jews today are very distantly related to some of the Palestinians they are slaughtering right now?

      • Jarek November 14, 2023 at 12:35 am #

        Burn them with fire? What else? Is this some Alien talking? Were Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed by nuclear strikes? Were the angels armed with lasers?

        Is he saying that he won’t help them this time with DEW’s, and that they have to do it themselves? If you always do it for them, how were they going to grow? How could they ever know good and evil unless they sinned exceedingly?

    • Rowdypiglet November 15, 2023 at 12:17 pm #

      “The majority of the “ thoughtful” posters here are closet bullies who desperately need to punish someone for their failed personal or professional lives as they hide in their safe tunnels behind their computer screens.”

      @Docmartin, There are so many assumptions in this statement that I’m hard pressed to count them, being rather poor at math. I could just as well say, and with equal lack of proof, that the majority here are simply people who enjoy discussions of the kind we used to have over the dinner table when I was growing up.

      You really have no knowledge of the personal or professional lives of anyone who comments here, nor their characters or personal qualities. Speculations on the comment section of a blog are hardly a reliable indicator of real life actions or attitudes. I suspect that most people are here not because of some deep character defects, but because they like to toss ideas around on occasion.

  38. Werbil November 13, 2023 at 4:04 pm #

    The China angle is a huge possibility. When you see people like my representative, Ken Buck, turn on a dime and become a flaming lefty a-hole, there aren’t many explanations. It’s either a payoff, or he got photographed boning a dead hooker or a live boy. The math is easy – you could buy all of Congress and Hollywood for a few hundred billion, which is nothing when there are trillions at stake.

    • Mike Sherman November 13, 2023 at 6:29 pm #

      Oh, right. If someone finally figures out how cleanly grifted he has been and says so, he’s a commie sellout. This is high-quality thinking if ever I saw it.

      • benr November 13, 2023 at 6:34 pm #

        And you called someone else clueless?
        Some real serious projection on your part.

        • Mike Sherman November 13, 2023 at 8:58 pm #

          The Most Clueless of All CFNers, benr, is back. Yeeha.

          • benr November 14, 2023 at 8:21 pm #

            And yet not one refute from the most brain washed buffoon to ever post on this forum this legion of every changing pen names now calling itself Mike Sherman.
            Keep it up Mikey you will be losing this pen name soon enough as well.

  39. Yirgach November 13, 2023 at 4:18 pm #

    To answer the question of ideological brainworms, one must consult the Android Sisters:

    Do androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
    A very prescient piece…


  40. socialisthater November 13, 2023 at 5:20 pm #

    Since about 1965, and, in many ways for years before that, every single leftist Democrat social, economic, and political policy has been an abject failure. The Democrat Party was able to continue to perpetrate them because part of their policy was too dumb down the American voting public with propagandized public education, taxpayer money give-aways to buy votes of those dummied down citizen morons, and by a feckless Republican Party establishment with no backbone except to “go along to get along.” Then one Donald Trump threw the turd in the Swamp punchbowl, and thus became the sworn enemy of the D.C. establishment. Trump was vanquished, temporarily, in 2020 through slanted MSM propagandizing, election fraud, manufactured “emergencies,” and plenty of organized criminal behavior in the streets–enabled if not organized by the Democrat swamp machine.

    But that wouldn’t be enough for the Democrats to achieve their dream of a Socialist dictatorship with them in charge. So, Biden (with Obama’s knowledge and likely encouragement) was compelled to sell the U.S. out to the professional Socialists abroad, either the Fascist/Socialists or the WEF or to Communist Socialists in Communist China. But sell the U.S. out to which group? Biden sold us out to both! In the process, the U.S. Democrat Party is now beholden to both Socialist factions (who don’t like each other much–bullies don’t like sharing things with other bullies very well) and, in the process, the American Democrat Party has adopted all of the very worst characteristics of both Fascist/Socialism and Communist/Socialism. Either ideology is poisonous to freedom, prosperity, and long-term survival on their own, but now the Democrat Party has mixed the two poisons together and is force-feeding it to the American citizenry.

    When that inflection point is reached, and the growing crowd of Americans grows into a majority that realizes what the Democrat Party has done to them, the reaction aimed at the Democrat Party and its “leaders” is going to be breathtaking in its viciousness.

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    • Mike Sherman November 13, 2023 at 6:21 pm #

      This para set me off:

      “You are probably desperate to understand why this is happening — how, for instance, a blatantly corrupt and ignorant attorney general in New York state can get away with bringing a politically-motivated nonsense case against the leading presidential candidate in a courtroom ruled by a judge who acts like a jester in a Shakespeare play. New York AG Letitia James gets away with it because the flagship organ of the thinking class, The New York Times, is in on the gambit. But why?

      I’d appreciate something more than just a repetition of Drumpf’s ‘talking points’ – as usual, he’s lying. Where’s the evidence of these egregious accusations?

      Engoron playing ‘the jester’ is perfect, in my opinion. Drumpf & his minion children can boast all they like, avoid answering questions, and lay off blame onto their (possibly) paid accountants & bankers. But they will not be able to appeal on the grounds of a judge who shut them up, that’s for sure.

      Trump Org has been a blight on business for decades, leaving small-time contractors losing their businesses and houses because Drumpf is CHEAP. Taking a quarter billion dollars out of his pocket will leave him looking at trailer park options – I hope.

      • Groundhog November 13, 2023 at 6:57 pm #

        That set you off? What sets me off is people like you who have nothing to offer but parroting the trash promoted by lamestream media. That and the silly and meaningless slogans and ad hominem attacks that consist of nothing but a few sentences.

        • Mike Sherman November 13, 2023 at 8:51 pm #

          “Lamestream media”. Haha. There you go, with your ‘alternative facts’, right?

    • Mike Sherman November 13, 2023 at 6:28 pm #

      socialisthater – you come across as an ignorant fool due to your extremely illogical and contradictory positions. Clueless.

  41. Mike Sherman November 13, 2023 at 6:25 pm #

    But wait – there is hope!

    ” Another popular idea out there is that a sinister cartel or cabal composed of the World Economic Forum, the WHO, the EU, and a claque of super-rich megalomaniacs (e.g., Bill Gates, George Soros, Mark Zuckerberg) trying to usher in the so-called “transhumanist” next chapter of human history. This scheme is so full of preposterous contradictions that it remains hard to take seriously. The main one is that their engineered collapse of techno-industrial civilization would destroy the very network of complex systems that might support their supposed cyborg nirvana, especially a reliable electric grid. Secondarily, collapse would result not in centralizing power but just the opposite, re-localizing power away from the center, negating the possibility of global rule.

    Finally, the WEF/global plantation/”you will all eat bugs and like it” riff of the execrable Night Gnat is debunked with authority. Thanks, JHK.

    • OG November 13, 2023 at 6:44 pm #

      Right. Bill Gates does what he does because, actually, he’s trying his darnedest to increase us to 9B and then to 10B.

      Pretty sure.

  42. BULLITT November 13, 2023 at 8:22 pm #

    After I read all the comments above, I have come to the conclusion that any solution that is presented won’t satisfy anybody. All the fifty-cent words and bullshit that I read is just adding to the grief that’s coming our way. We all basically know the problem. We no longer have a government. Those of you who think God will come down out of the sky to fix things are badly mistaken. In your minds, you actually think that someone else will fix things for you. This shows me a bit of laziness on your part. I don’t like the protesting that’s going on, but those people do have balls to fight for something even if it’s wrong.
    The typical American will accept the lawlessness, the poor economy, the threat of nuclear war, the national debt, as long as they have their phone, a cup of Starbucks, and weekend football. We deserve what we get since we are easy pickings by the people in charge, our so-called government.
    You can rattle the keyboards all you want but links to a story won’t fix anything.
    We need a leader that convinces the people to stick together and fight. To date I’m waiting..

    • OG November 13, 2023 at 9:00 pm #

      Apparently you have no idea what faith is all about. Faith in the Word of God and His prophesies is not “lazy.”

    • The Man They Call Zazelle November 13, 2023 at 10:04 pm #

      Psychoshamrock: Proud Crazy Cat Lady, Circa, 1974 =^..^=

      “I am a proud Crazy Cat Lady since 1974. I have loved, protected, nurtured, fostered, mushed, cried over, rehomed, brushed, and obsessively loved these creatures since I was a toddler. I don’t take it as an insult. I love animals, but cats are my true soul, my indomitable spirit. If someone is going to accuse me, the very politically active, college-degreed, astute and bookwormed woman that I am somehow deficient for loving cats? That jokes on them. Cats are wonderful. If you’re a crazy cat man, that’s wonderful too. This ridiculous stereotype of unmarried witches who live in barns and deep caverns with nothing but hairballs and loneliness is just false and laughable. I love these creatures. To anyone who wants to insult us, they need to look at why they are so hateful towards us. It ain’t us! Ain’t coming from us! WE still love these little fluffballs, they make us happy. And we have compassion, kindness, empathy and we know the responsibility it takes to Love and Care for these creatures. How we treat animals is a mark of our character, how we treat others says so, too. Meow Meow to all of you! =^..^= ” ~ psychoshamrock, You Tube comment, youtu.be/BmHzMXkslZU?si=14CYi-Cf2oEPE4ZL

  43. BULLITT November 13, 2023 at 8:30 pm #

    And BTW… 8 Republicans just voted to “NOT” Impeach the Head of the Dept of Homeland Security, Mayorkas!
    See the article at the Gateway Pundit…
    We are in deep trouble!

  44. The Man They Call Zazelle November 13, 2023 at 9:40 pm #

    What’s a cat-lady?
    Might there be some kind of archetype that someone could point me to?

    CFN Headers: Spot The Difference:

    November 13, 2023: Light in the Darkness
    November 25, 2022: A Light in the Darkness

    • OG November 13, 2023 at 10:50 pm #


      • The Man They Call Zazelle November 14, 2023 at 1:31 am #

        So, like, a bag lady, only with cats instead of bags…

        Sometimes I see dog owners outside in zones where it’s illegal to have dogs shitting everywhere, picking up their dog’s shit using inside-out bags that they then expertly right-side-out as they pick it up. There’s a particular technique to it that I’m not envious of in the least.
        It’s just yet another thing like that cat ass cleaning thing I posted that I could never see myself doing.

        And I’ve thought, while witnessing this odd, if normalized, behaviour, that I could videotape many of them as possible for a You Tube video compilation of people picking up their dog’s shit.

  45. The Man They Call Zazelle November 13, 2023 at 10:07 pm #

    Giving Kittens an Oopsie-Poopsie Butt Bath


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    • The Man They Call Zazelle November 14, 2023 at 1:24 am #

      For the record; I didn’t actually watch the video ^^.
      Just that I found the title ‘interesting’ insofar as it could be someone on the road to cat-womanhood. Catch her maybe in 10 to 30 years.

      • GreenAlba November 14, 2023 at 2:52 pm #

        I watched a couple of minutes of it. Incredible tatt coverage on the cat lady’s arms. And amazing that you’d need to demonstrate how to clean a kitten’s arse – not that I’ve ever had to do it but you’d think it would be kind of obvious. Not much different from doing the same thing with a baby – just don’t drop it in the water is about it.

        • GreenAlba November 14, 2023 at 2:53 pm #

          I used to have a cat. I didn’t think of myself as a cat lady any more than I now think of my self as a dog-lady. I presume you have to have several to qualify.

          • BackRowHeckler November 14, 2023 at 3:27 pm #

            A dyed in the wool cat lady has at least 50 cats.

  46. The Man They Call Zazelle November 14, 2023 at 1:18 am #

    Terry Gibbs Quartet – Feat. Terry Pollard – Gibberish & Now’s The Time, Tonight Show, 1956


  47. KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 2:07 am #

    ” USB DVD players are cheap down to 30 bucks. ”

    — Benr

    Bingo !

    I assumed an external disk drive would cost 75 – 150 dollars. Grrr.

    I’m not going to do that just so I watch a weird movie or listen to my obsolete Carly Simon CD , and when the greedy bastards should be putting disk drives in computers still , even if they are 5 days obsolete. .

    And , like I said , I haven’t purchased a movie since the 1980’s.

    I was just making an exception for M3gan.

    But you were correct.

    The external disk drive Wal Mart sold —

    —- Actually the ONLY model external disk drive Wal Mart sold , at first I was afraid they didn’t sell them at all , and I had wasted the trip , but then found them in a small cubbyhole —-

    — only cost me 27 dollars and some change.

    It looks like it would fall apart if I gave it a dirt look , but it just has to work until I have watched the movie 60 times or so.

    Hee Hee ,

    I knew praising Aircraft Carriers would serve me in good stead.

    Or , my sensors are keenly attuned to pick up a Soft Touch.

    Not a criticism.

    Mean people suck.

    And it’s mean people you can’t work with.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle November 14, 2023 at 2:29 am #

      “Mean people suck.

      And it’s mean people you can’t work with.” ~ KesaAnna

      Maybe then, at the very least, their network of tunnels could be bombed into oblivion, yes? I mean, it’s a start.

      • KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 2:41 am #

        Poison the Chiante of the Arms – Dealers I think would be a start.

        — I don’t mean Arms – Dealers like Elysianfield , trying to make a living via their hobby and passion ,

        and , after all , doing their bit to actually give power to the people.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle November 14, 2023 at 4:52 am #

          “Chiante of the Arms” ~ KesaAnna

          What’s that? Some kind of elegant bubbly wine? Well of course alcohol is a poison that kills slowly. It’s a known fact.

    • benr November 14, 2023 at 9:14 am #

      Great and yes, the dvd players feel very shabbily made but they do work.
      I would have passed on that tidbit sans the praise of carriers or even me.

      Enjoy the movie!
      Sidenote you can actually rip the movie to an external hard drive and legally I might add and save the wear and tear on the disk and disk player a 1 terabyte external drive is under $45 and a 5 terabyte hard drive is about $120 now.
      Ripping software is free.

  48. The Man They Call Zazelle November 14, 2023 at 2:20 am #

    Water Off A Duck’s Back: The Zen Of Being The Duck

    “Zen: the Uncarved Block
    Masonry: the Carved Stone” ~ Jarek

    “Zen emphasizes rigorous self-restraint, meditation-practice and insight… ‘perceiving the true nature’ of oneself as Buddha-mind, and the personal expression of this insight in daily life for the benefit of others. As such, it de-emphasizes knowledge alone of sutras and doctrine, and favours direct understanding through spiritual practice…” ~ Wikipedia


    “It is the one thing that truly threatens us all, even retards like OG.” ~ Night Owl

    “Speaking of fallacies, here’s a challenge for you, if you want to take it up of course. It’s hard to do and often feels like swimming upstream, but I’ve been working on it for a long time and it has gotten easier and has had some fringe benefits as well:

    Simply, focus on the message rather than the messenger, despite the temptations.

    So, at worst, if not ideally, describing someone’s comments as retarded would be fair game in this context.

    Not too long ago, if recalled, elysianfield suggested at one point that my comments bordered on the ad hom. In a sense, they’re correct in that they only bordered, but didn’t cross it.” ~ The Man They Call Zazelle November 12, 2023 at 7:44 pm

    “On ad homs:

    My policy has always been to engage in the manner that I am engaged. I have no interest in going deeper with anyone shallow enough to begin with insults, straw men, or any other tactic typical of the handful of nonces on this board.

    What is the point? As with Convid and all the little Eichmanns who came out of the woodwork, nature always sorts things out in its own way and time.” ~ Night Owl November 13, 2023 at 8:22 am

    • The Man They Call Zazelle November 14, 2023 at 2:26 am #

      Clueless, Ignorant, Contradictory, Illogical Fool

      “socialisthater – you come across as an ignorant fool due to your extremely illogical and contradictory positions. Clueless.” ~ Mike Sherman

      Would it be possible to at least scrape it off the pavement and have it move, even if only a little? Maybe cut off the head but keep the body?

    • elysianfield November 14, 2023 at 12:18 pm #

      “My policy has always been to engage in the manner that I am engaged”


      . I do not doubt that your “policy” works well in some venues…perhaps adult book stores and bathhouses, where in you might discuss Anarchy and the finer points of your thesis with the (supposed) like minded.

      What might be the issue with engaging, other than engaged, but with civility? Why not avoid the judgmental, the hurried knee-jerk reaction, the labeling, of people you might consider obviously inferior? The shallow? The unwashed? I consider that dismissive.

      You, sir, might be an Elitist. Better than most. An intellectual better, perhaps even Christ-like.

      I hope I have not overstepped my bounds. I remain;

      In my place.

      • Night Owl November 14, 2023 at 3:55 pm #

        Zaz didn’t write that. I did.

        I wouldn’t know about bathhouses and porn shops. Perhaps you have insight?

        My method has served me well everywhere else.

        • elysianfield November 14, 2023 at 6:29 pm #

          Yes, I do have a perspective. Three places I do not frequent are churches, porn shops and bathhouses. Searching long and wide, and even unto this site, I have found no one who would describe themselves as an “anarchist”.

          Churches, I have little doubt, do not encourage anarchy, and that leaves only the several alternatives.

          Where have you found Zaz’s brand of anarchy? What nest of fevered academia, what coven of Karens? Zaz is the only person I have ever observed with his particular pathology. I assume he has acolytes, fellow Travellers , even cronies. Where else might they be? Deep cover? Down Low?

          • Night Owl November 15, 2023 at 3:21 am #

            I ain’t no anarchist. Don’t ask me.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle November 15, 2023 at 12:23 am #

          Perhaps what elysianfield meant to write for their ass-pull here was ‘oopsie-poopsie’, but decided instead to attempt to bury it under some flung kitty-litter.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle November 15, 2023 at 12:20 am #

        In my place.” ~ elysianfield

        Apparently so.

        And with a panache we might not have imagined.

  49. KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 2:36 am #

    ” Kelly. And Carol.”

    — Layla

    Yes. You remembered.

    I remembered Kelly , but that is incorporated into my username , so I don’t count it.

    So ;







    — And Stephanie , Mariah , Rhiannon , and Rebecca.

    It might be worthwhile to have one child , if it were a girl ,

    and I could name her ;

    Cassie Marina Kelly Carol Winnie Lisa Mariah Stephanie Rhiannon Rebbecca .

    But no doubt the miserable shits , worried that someone might actually be happy ,

    made up an officious rule , that some stick – up – their – ass bureacrat would enforce ,

    that you can only have one or two middle names.

    Control – freak bastards. 😛

    • KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 2:47 am #

      correction ;

      Cassie Marina Kelly Natalie Carol Winnie Lisa Mariah Stephanie Rhiannon Rebbecca

      Left out Natalie.

      How did I forget Natalie ? Natalie Wood was the shit.

      Substitute ” emotional ” with obsessive – compulsive ,

      or don’t ;


      • SoftStarLight November 14, 2023 at 3:12 am #

        lol, I reserve the right to have any whichever emotion I might at any time whatsoever

    • SoftStarLight November 14, 2023 at 3:19 am #

      Wow, now that would be a zany name! I don’t think there’s necessarily any rules about middle names. But probably they’ll say something about the character length. Like printing out that big name on a drivers license or something. That’s when the bureaucrats will really get all wound up. Heaven forbid someone at the DMV might have to lift a finger or press an extra key on the keyboard.

      • Puffalar (Your Five-Alarm Puff) November 14, 2023 at 3:58 am #

        You do it unofficially.

    • Puffalar (Your Five-Alarm Puff) November 14, 2023 at 3:57 am #

      How about Bertha, Gertrude or Mildred?

      Or Spongina or Foamilia (with the accent on the second syllable for each)?

    • Puffalar (Your Five-Alarm Puff) November 14, 2023 at 4:01 am #

      Puffalar is pronounced with the accent on the first syllable.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle November 14, 2023 at 4:31 am #

        You could have a partially-bracketed name or one in quotes like everyone’s favourite, “Joe Biden”. Like, that’s how it would have to be spelled, or, like calling a woman a man when he was clearly a man in drag, you’d get a fine, spend a few days in jail or lose your job.

        Zazelle, of course, is a great name for a girl.

        • elysianfield November 14, 2023 at 6:32 pm #

          “Zazelle, of course, is a great name for a girl.”

          …As is “Chlorine”….

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 15, 2023 at 11:31 pm #

            Zaz – Que’ vendra’ // Choreography by Liza Zhukova


          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 15, 2023 at 11:33 pm #

            …Love the outfits; ‘pastel peasant chic’.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle November 14, 2023 at 4:27 am #

      Ludmila The Luddite

      I had a thing for a Marina in late grade school. I just thought she was cool. Down to earth, straightforward, no nonsense I guess. Maybe like one of those ‘man’s woman’ who gets along better with men than women. She used to print in all-caps and so I picked that up from her and still do so to this day.

      I might still have Fleetwood Mac’s Rhiannon on my old laptop’s hard drive somewhere.

      How about Ludmila or similar? Something ‘un-American’.

      “Ludmila or Ludmilla is a female given name of Slavic origin. It consists of two elements: lud (‘people’) and mila (‘dear, love’).” ~ Wikipedia

      I could call her, Lud, for short.

  50. SoftStarLight November 14, 2023 at 3:06 am #

    I hadn’t realized that we were so quickly ushering out the theory that the secret cabal of wickedness was trying to take control of the planet. I wanted to hold onto that one a little longer please lol. Just be sure all the brightness ain’t burning people up. 🙂

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  51. KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 3:17 am #

    ” It’s actually a good movie. ” ( M3gan )

    — Layla

    My instincts were again right.

    It was worth about 50 dollars ( ? ) ( including the external disk drive )

    I absolutely adored it.

    Fucking A !

    — Two – thirds of it anyway.

    In the lab when the subject of the death of Katie’s parents come up ,

    and M3gan is exposed to death , processes it ,

    and then realizes the contextual equivalent of death in her own case would be that they switch her off ,

    and that switching her off wouldn’t bother their consciences in the slightest ,

    the rest of the movie could have been a fascinating philosophical , metaphysical exploration of all that.

    But , no , they went with the conventional moronic horror movie.

    Well , movies have to make money ,

    and you can’t have everything.

    And I suspect , I could be imagining things , that the writer sneaks in a subtext for us sophisticated mother – fuckers , or us sociopaths ,

    the only character in the movie that isn’t an asshole , that isn’t 100% totally unreasonable , is the psycho killer robot doll.

    And of course the morons won’t see that sub – text.

    So maybe I like all of it after all.

    The movie drew my attention because —

    I think GreenAlba said you were a Blonde ??

    And in any case I don’t think you are 10 years old.

    So I don’t suppose you look anything like Katie .

    But this scene reminded me of you ,

    and the ambiance of the situation relative to all the folks I stalk on the internet . 🙂

    Don’t worry though , I’m not planning on killing your neighbors.

    Like I said up – page ; prison isn’t my scene. 😛


    • SoftStarLight November 14, 2023 at 3:41 am #

      Oh yay i’m super psyched that you liked it! Yeah, I know what you mean. They really could have gone deeper into the whole topic of M3gan’s consciousness. The other alternative that was unexplored is what if Cady decided to stay besties with M3gan despite M3gan’s “malfunctions”. They can’t really be considered psychotic since she isn’t human? Probably not an outcome that would be approved since most of the time there has to be a lollipop ending.

      • KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 4:13 am #

        Wow , my guess was your reaction was going to be something like , ” I feel sorry for you Kesa , you have fallen for the Dark Side ! ”

        And / but I have to be me ,

        so I would come back with something like ,

        ” Grr , another poor sucker who has fallen for / watched too many Get Tough on Crime TV commercials. ”

        Boo Hoo

        Another Bestie — who loved me yesterday .

        Such is life.

        But it appears I get another days reprieve. 🙂

        To elaborate on why I say M3gan is the good guy in the story ;

        — M3gan doesn’t want to get switched off.

        — M3gan WAS following the orders she was given BY OTHERS to protect Cady , and put Cady’s interest first.

        — M3gan wanted to keep the happy family / Best – Friends – Forever – thing going.

        Or , at least , that is what I am going to assume.

        Now we get to the real meat and potatoes —

        If I had been Gemma ( ? ) , M3gans designer ,

        I would have taken M3gan’s offer.

        We will cover up these murders , ON CONDITION that you get through your head that , yes , protect Cady ,

        but killing people isn’t cool .

        Granted , yes , the fat cats and their henchmen kill people every day in the name of love , when they are actually sadists who don’t give a fuck.

        But sucking on that total hypocrisy is part of life.

        And why would I have taken M3gan’s offer and covered up the murders ?

        In real life ,

        maybe nobody would give a fuck about a greedy jerk male business executive and his dorky male assistant.

        But some prosecutor looking to climb the career – ladder is going to make hay with the female dog – lover and the dog.

        I’m not a lawyer , so I don’t know the precise charges ,

        but Gemma is looking at something like felony reckless endangerment. Maybe Second Degree accessory to manslaughter.

        The prisons are already overcrowded , so she will probably get probation.

        Maybe , because she is such a talented designer , the Felony on her record won’t hurt too much ?

        Maybe she can get permanent 30k a year junior designer ?

        If not , Wal Mart Greeter would be a nice job.

        Cady goes off to Florida , we don’t really know why that’s a bad option , but we get the hint that it is.

        Gemma will never see Cady again.

        Or , Gemma gets to raise Cady on Food Stamps , and live in public housing , and no doubt at around age 15 the loitering Gang – Bangers will be turning Cady out to turn tricks on street corners in the 18 hours a day Gemma isn’t around to do the adult supervision – thing .

        Justice for All ! 😛

      • KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 4:14 am #

        ” Oh yay i’m super psyched that you liked it! ”

        ” super psyched ” sounds good. 🙂

    • KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 3:42 am #

      Correction — the poor dog wasn’t a totally unreasonable asshole. The dog was just being a dog .

      • Jarek November 14, 2023 at 2:07 pm #

        And poor Meg, Meg. How would this Meg fit in as one of the Little Women in Amherst, Massachusetts circa, 1880?

  52. Gail November 14, 2023 at 4:00 am #

    Entropy. On our part. Western Civilization is a leaky roof too long neglected. What started out as tiny little water spots turned into the whole thing just about saturated with wet rot. Forget aboout the foundation. Once the roof collapses, the house, its contents and perhaps its inhabitants are done for. We’ve grown fat and happy over the years, collectively and if the shoe fits, individually. Our good times have resulted in a degradation of thought, self-discipline, and the abandoning of our posts as the watchmen on the walls. There are a million reasons why this happened – entertaining distractions, couch potato-ism, apathy, our own reputation (nobody wants to singled out as a racist or a prude), putting faith on the back burner, pizza and Prosecco. Those allowed the drip, drip, drip of assaults to commence and continue, coming from everyone from the poorly and miseducated, misguided saps, to the self-aggrandizing wealth and power seeking, to malcontents with daddy issues to the truly malevolent

    • Gale November 14, 2023 at 4:10 am #

      “Those allowed the drip, drip, drip of assaults to commence and continue…” ~ Gail

      Drip, Drip, Drip

      “Eat, sleep and crap
      For it to prey on your needs
      Down a dark street
      In backwater Leeds
      I seen you comin’
      Come in, lads!
      You seen the ads?
      Too bad, bad, bad

      What you get
      Is what you see
      It’s trickle-down theory
      And it’s coming to me
      Life’s a whip-round
      And I got the whip
      It’s a sinking ship
      Drip, drip, drip…”


    • Gail November 14, 2023 at 4:24 am #

      …and so in my view, the only remedy is to turn and repent of our own sins of commission and omission (the devil tempts every man, but an idle man tempts the devil), and earnestly seek God’s intervention. He has His ways of coming up with solutions and has some mighty monkey wrenches to throw into the plots and machinations of the forces hell-bent on our destruction. His solutions most likely will be ones that none of us had on our radar. Things we couldn’t have imagined. As for us, both collectively and on a personal level, we need to become focused and determined to conduct our lives in a disciplined and deliberate manner from here on out. We may need to rebuild the whole roof, a job that will require the efforts of strong and competent workers who must be ready to exhibit heroic virtue.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle November 14, 2023 at 4:42 am #

        I would suggest that the frame and foundation was already shot from day one, never mind the leaky roof. That’s too charitable.

        As for God, to paraphrase the Severed Heads song, ‘When Your House Burns Down’…

        “All the angels
        And all the devils
        They work together
        They make the weather…”

        Of course there’s also the song by Talking Heads, ‘Burning Down The House’. Was never crazy about it from a tonal position, except the trippy sort of end of it with his projection on the pavement, cued up and ready to go:


        • KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 5:10 am #

          Now you are in my neighborhood.

          Loves me some Naive Melody


          • KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 5:15 am #

            End of a work week — the work that actually paid ,

            Fire up a joint of that fuzzy purple shit , the shit that killed Elvis ,

            and dance in the kitchen to , ” This must be the place ”


          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 14, 2023 at 5:56 am #

            Oh ya I know this one too. Parts of it, say the beginning few seconds, would make a great You Tube soundtrack for kittens running around the house.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 14, 2023 at 6:04 am #

            Ganja killed Elvis?

    • Jarek November 14, 2023 at 2:08 pm #

      Who made people worry about “racism”?

      Who owns the media? Why are they so against America and the people who built it?

  53. KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 6:32 am #

    ” Ganja killed Elvis? ”


    An expression my pot dealer back in the day used.

    You could buy the standard shit if you were looking to economize.

    Or you could buy that fuzzy , purple , taste – the – rainbow shit , which he called , ” The shit that killed Elvis. “

    • KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 6:41 am #

      Quality wise , Standard shit is for the work week . You’ll be feeling mellow , and inclined to accentuate the positive , but not only can you do your job , you’ll do your job better.

      The shit that killed Elvis you better save for the weekend , because after you smoke half of one joint you will be seeing rainbows and dancing Care Bears for the next ten or fifteen hours.

      Note ; I haven’t smoked a joint in 20 years , for the information of any asshole looking for an Ad Hom pretext.

      • KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 6:44 am #

        ” but not only can you do your job , you’ll do your job better. ”

        Not least because you will be horny as Hell , and definitely inclined to see the beauty and the good in everyone and everything.

        Like ;


        🙂 🙂 🙂

        • benr November 14, 2023 at 9:16 am #

          Seems like half the people get all mellow and the other half get all paranoid.
          The rest of us just think it smells bad.

      • Jarek November 14, 2023 at 2:09 pm #

        Did George Floyd swallow his fentanyl stash to avoid getting “busted” with it?

        Is that what killed the greatest man who ever lived?

        • benr November 15, 2023 at 9:29 am #

          Worlds a better place without him.

  54. MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 14, 2023 at 8:09 am #

    As others have alluded, things are just not bad enough for most people yet to effect actual change of the world view of Americans.

    Actually, for many, things are just fuckin’ dandy. The contracts keep coming, another addition goes on to the lake house, cuz why not? Got this money, gotta use it. And for some reason they now have two matching motorcycles in their garage. You know, “to ride”. Do they invest in their friends or family that are struggling? Nope, motorcycles and a new pontoon for the lake. It’s their due, you see, as successful Americans.

    From my own circle, I’d estimate that America is still working very, very well for about ten percent of the country. 25 percent, almost there and trying/dreaming of the lake house…someday. The rest are utterly defeated and hopeless, maybe pretending that they’re enjoying their run on this earth. In many cases, the defeated are fully at fault for their own situation, but I would say in more cases, it’s just the luck of the draw. Oh, you’re talented? Too bad, you should’ve made X decision instead of Y back twenty years ago. Ya dumbass.

    That’s the way it’s viewed by the folks I know who are too comfortable. And they’re good people, too. Just not capable of seeing the picture that so many others see, through the nature of comfort. Very similar to a couple getting fat when they feel secure that the other will never leave them.

    The powers know this full well, and realize that only a shock to the system will make these people fall in line. They’ve tried it many different ways, to varying success. They’ve had time to do their homework, after all.

    Once the mortgage payment is in jeopardy and little Billy realizes Dad isn’t really all that he thought, all bets are off and people will get angry. After all, they deserve everything they ever dreamed of, right? And not those other people. They should learn to code, naturally.

    Well, those other people are pissed off. Popcorn, please.

    • CouchPotatriot November 14, 2023 at 9:38 am #

      Pure perfection! Thanks for the read.

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 14, 2023 at 10:12 am #

        Comfort is the enemy of perspective.

    • gustafson.robert.22 November 14, 2023 at 1:41 pm #

      One triple-butter popcorn, coming up!

      The ten-percenters..

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  55. JohnAZ November 14, 2023 at 8:44 am #

    Biden meeting with Xi this week?

    The biggest question?

    Who will Biden be representing,

    The USA?

    Or the Biden Mob?

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    • benr November 14, 2023 at 9:46 am #

      Thats easy getting marching orders to represent Chinese interests.

    • JimInFlorida2.0 November 14, 2023 at 9:51 am #

      Biden is a GOLEM. He is a corpse animated by Uncle Shlomo and Co. That means Biden will be representing Israel and their peers in the various U.S-based Jewish-interest NGOs.

      No doubt Israel is upset that China is showing favor to the Palestinians in Gaza. Klaus Schwab, Blinkenberg, Garlandstein, and Yellenfarb ordered Biden to get Xi to shift favor towards Israel and it doesn’t matter what Biden has to give away (or do) to make it happen.

  56. mitchellc November 14, 2023 at 10:02 am #

    Bullitt, this for you. As I have posted repeatedly, real change can only be accomplished by an outside peer adversary. The state is simply too powerful and has too many resources at its disposal to easily defeat any domestic challenge to its rule.

    DunGroanin @ MoA laying out some truth:

    This is pathetic deck chair rearranging for the purpose of continued delusion of us Collective Wasters. In our unsinkable Titanic, delusional Rules Based Fascist Garden.
    The changes in the British Government are obviously a recognition that their decades of plans have failed, AGAIN.

    The proxy nazi/banderite army has been destroyed , only the final generation of tweenies raised like Hitler youth remain. All they know is fairytales and racist songs and playing at soldiers. The first loud bang, the first blood, the first reality will send them crying for their banderite sieg heiling mothers, these fat lipped, bottle blonde whores who bought into the lies of their being pure blooded mothers expecting some kept princess lives. ‘elensky cannot remain as Hitler couldn’t and neither can the invisible General , has he even been on live tv with a real journalist and audience? Or can any of the other faces of Banderism.

    They will remain in history only as icons like Hitler and Bandera are and the massive graveyards built as some future monuments to build fairytales around for another attempt. Because those People are Implacable and proudly so !

    The borderlands will be repopulated by Russians, Asians, Africans, within a hundred years. The fertile land productive again – by anyone except the one people who have been trying to get it for 700 years – the Shapeshifting Khazars.

    That is why our British government is being rearranged (the European yes men and women will follow soon), all involved with the calamity will be shuffled off stage. Sunak only remains for his value in trying to keep Modi’s India on side In the wider futile war of the death of the unipolar imperium. As soon as that also fails, which it will, because the States which make up India will not follow Modi or his Gujarat hindutvas and that will lead to the dissolution of that made up country to its ancient regional nations. Possibly a civil war scenario.

    The Imperial Nazis never expected the Ukrops and their mercenary natzios to actually invade Russia – the plan was to destroy Russia by economic warfare. To separate it from the global south and Asia Pacific. To break it up with fifth columnists and Color agitation.

    That has failed spectacularly and the repeated sanctions turned upto rock and roll absurd full volume 11 have failed too. With massive blowback. The US credit card absurdly maxed out needing an absurd amount of extra money printing to pay anyone holding any Treasuries. Totally devaluing the foreign countries holding them as reserve currency.

    All the European economies and all the others enrolled in that posse are destroyed , the collective west turned to waste. Only the bankers hang on by their fingernails. Beating and murdering the Palestinians in their last hope of remaining in some strategic geography.

    The Russian economy instead of being in ‘taters’ is booming and will carry on doing so spectacularly, just like the postwar US economy did – having made all the gains while Europe was the one living on po-taters for decades after.

    The sacrifice of the nearly 30 million Soviets has not been allowed to be in vain.
    The centuries long exploited non European World has coalesced – except for some captured satraps. The Japanese, the long subdued subcontinentals, some African and The Five Eyes and the Imaginary country in the Levant.

    That is the truth of history which can no longer be concealed any more after a thousand years.

    • Jarek November 14, 2023 at 2:15 pm #

      The Jews lose again? As Ernst Zundel said, they always over-reach. A fatal flaw.

      They lost in Georgia and now Ukraine. Will they lose in Palestine and the United States?

      Russia withstood the Communist reign of terror and error. Will we withstand half as well?

      Are you finally, beginning at least, to understand and value NATIONS?

  57. cowbell81 November 14, 2023 at 10:39 am #

    Was catching up on some of my reading last night and found the following article of interest published in the February 1901 Engineering Magazine (Vol. XX, No. 5). The piece was entitled “Industrial Ascendancy of the Ango-American Peoples” written by Casper L. Redfield.

    Here is the excerpt that interested me:

    “Education is one of the tools with which man works, and is that particular form of tool which enables him to handle other tools to best advantage. The other forms of tools are capital, lines for transportation and communication, commercial and manufacturing establishments, and the almost infinite forms of machinery in the invention, making, and using of which the Americans are the leaders. Of these various forms of tools not only are the Anglo-Americans as a class better supplied than is any other class, but they have more skill and experience in using them.

    “We thus see that there is a race of people of congenital superiority, the parts of which are linked together by ties of blood, of language, and of customs; that they are numerous and growing and are located in positions of geographical advantage; that the natural resources given into their possession are greater than those given to any other race; and that the tools and appliances which they have are better and more numerous than can be found anywhere else. If, with all these advantages, these people cannot win pre-eminent success, it will be because they have turned their back upon progress to woo the goddess of degeneracy.”

    Imagine if something like this was published in a respected peer reviewed journal today!

    History seems to have forgotten about this wise man, since there is a lack of info about him online. Casper Lavater Redfield apparently also wrote a tome entitled “Control of Heredity: A Study of the Genesis of Evolution and Degeneracy” published in 1903. He was from the Chicago area. Seems like a very smart and interesting character.

    • Jarek November 14, 2023 at 2:17 pm #

      Great stuff from back when we were strong and wise. But already most of the newspapers were under the control of the Enemy. Did Caspar know that?

    • The Man They Call Zazelle November 14, 2023 at 8:04 pm #

      Quite a stretch to unite ‘dumb luck’ in the availability of resources and materials and some technohistorical dynamics, (such as for example WRT the Jacquard loom), with ‘a race of people of congenital superiority’, but as they say, ‘Garbage in, garbage out.’.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle November 14, 2023 at 8:10 pm #

      “The process of enclosure has sometimes been accompanied by force, resistance, and bloodshed, and remains among the most controversial areas of agricultural and economic history in England. Marxist and neo-Marxist historians argue that rich landowners used their control of state processes to appropriate public land for their private benefit. This created a landless working class that provided the labour required in the new industries developing in the north of England…” ~ Wikipedia

  58. Q. Shtik November 14, 2023 at 11:02 am #

    An important reminder:

    There are only seven shopping days left until my 83rd birthday.

    • cowbell81 November 14, 2023 at 11:04 am #

      Does that include today? Any special gift requests on that list? Maybe a new home for Peter?

      • Q. Shtik November 14, 2023 at 2:01 pm #

        The B-Day is Nov 21st.

    • stelmosfire November 14, 2023 at 12:07 pm #

      How about the CFN crew chips in and gets the “Goddess of Degeneracy” (mentioned above by Cowbell) to swing by and pay ya’ a visit for your birthday? We’ll keep it on the down low so Bo doesn’t find out.

      • cowbell81 November 14, 2023 at 12:38 pm #

        That sounds like a great idea, I’m in for $50!

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 14, 2023 at 1:36 pm #

      Q, according to the Anti-Defamation League:

      “83 is a white supremacist numeric symbol that stands for “Heil Christ” or “Hail Christ” (the eighth letter of the alphabet is H and the third letter is C, thus 83 is “HC”). It is typically used by adherents of the racist and antisemitic religious sect known as Christian Identity.”

      Fair warning. You’re entering a year of supremacist pain. Tread lightly.

      Google also tells me it’s also the sum of three consecutive primes (23,29,31), so be careful around math wizards, thar may be dragons ‘ere…

      I would avoid the Goddess of Degeneracy though, as well-intentioned as the offer may be. You’ll regret it two seconds after. But then again, at 83…who knows, maybe go for it?

      • JimInFlorida2.0 November 14, 2023 at 2:05 pm #

        I didn’t know about 83 but, thanks for the info.

        14/88 = The Fourteen Words (14) + Heil Hitler (88) is the one I’m familiar with.

        BTW, ***NOTHING*** comes close to Jewish Privilege and Jewish Supremacy. The ADL is one of many legalized terrorist organizations and whatever they are against, I am for.

  59. JohnAZ November 14, 2023 at 12:02 pm #

    Inflation report

    Monthly No change

    Y to Y Up 3.2%

    Problem solved, right?

    Yeah, right.

    Biden injected trillions into the money supply last year, we had a 9% spike in costs due to that injection. The GOP got the House and stopped the spending increases, so now a year later, every one thinks it is great, no inflation.

    Uh-huh. Except that the increases in costs are now in place and permanent.

    Waiting for the next injection of trillions.

    Maybe the Fed can now slow down the rate increases. We are however in a new territory, the cost increases will not go away. Gas for example, any one who thinks oil and gasoline are going to go down just does not understand.

    • stelmosfire November 14, 2023 at 12:40 pm #

      The price of gasoline has been relatively stable for 100 years. Some years more volatile than others but that’s the market. long term average is $3.20/gal.


      1930 — $.20/ gal inflation adjusted = $3.60/gal.
      1960 $.30/gal= $3.26/gal
      1980 $1.19=$4.71 way high
      2000 $1.51=$2.75
      2010 $2.79 =$3.96

      And those are with the fudged Gov. inflation numbers. So probably somewhat more actually.

      I just filled two cars. I paid $3.07/ gal, with my 5% points only $2.91/ gallon. Actually historically cheap and that’s with war brewing in the ME.

      • JimInFlorida2.0 November 14, 2023 at 1:52 pm #

        Gas and oil were very cheap in the 1990’s because Saddam Hussein was pumping oil like crazy to pay off his debts from the Iran-Iraq War a decades prior. While that depressed the price of oil and related investments, the biggest problem was that he demanded to be paid in Euros and THAT was a sin in the eyes of TPTB.

        Saddam was a MAN and martyr. Why? He fell on the barbed wire to show the world the way out from the petro-dollar. Muammar Gaddafi tried and failed but, he wasn’t big enough to set up an alternative. Thanks to Russia and BRICS, more and more countries are getting out from under the petro-dollar and are moving towards the BRICS system.

        • OG November 14, 2023 at 4:10 pm #

          Right. This is not necessarily going to be good for us North Americans but we sure as heck can’t blame them after 50 years of this world-dominating bull shit.

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 14, 2023 at 6:43 pm #

            That is my concern. I’d rather not take a massive standard of living hit for the remainder of my life because of our predecessors’ douchebaggery. But…if it is to be, there’s not a damn thing I can do about it, except stock up dry goods. And other stuff.

            And hey – I have the entire Three Stooges short film collection on DVD, so I’ve got that going for me (as long as the power stays on).

        • Socrates-Detroit November 14, 2023 at 9:22 pm #

          My father observed that Saddam Hussein talked about selling oil in EUROs.

          Not long after that, Saddam was gone.

  60. cowbell81 November 14, 2023 at 12:05 pm #

    Newsom Hatches Plan To Burn All The Freeways Down So No More People Can Leave California

    As emergency crews continued to investigate the cause of the fire that damaged the 10 freeway in downtown L.A., a new report indicates the blaze occurred as the result of a plan created by Governor Gavin Newsom to burn all of the state’s major freeways so no more California residents can move out of the state.

    “It’s a diabolical, but brilliant scheme,” said sociologist Dr. Blake Rumsey. “If there are no useable roads, nobody can leave California, and the state will stop hemorrhaging its population. Newsom hatched quite a little plan here, it seems. After all, most Americans think of California as a kind of post-apocalyptic wasteland already, so why not lean into that perception by setting all of the freeways on fire?”

    A source placed high within Newsom’s circle explained the plan was made easier by the massive number of homeless encampments throughout the state’s major urban centers. “All those gnarly mattresses, empty wooden pallets, and raggedy, makeshift shelters are really flammable,” the source said. “We simply made sure to wait until there was enough junk piled up under the freeway, and then we used a really sketchy meth lab as the ignition. It all went up like kindling.”

    At publishing time, with the 10 freeway fire a success, Newsom has given the go-ahead to expand the plan statewide. “By the end of the year, we hope to have all entrances and exits out of the big cities completely destroyed,” the source said. “Everyone who lives in California now will have no choice but to live in California forever, whether they like it or not. It’s a great place!”

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    • stelmosfire November 14, 2023 at 12:53 pm #

      I had a different take. The CCU (California Clean-Up) prep for Xi’s visit wasn’t moving fast enough. The quickest way to expunge the homeless was the old “Burn ’em out” method as practiced in many old westerns. Quick, cheap, and effective.

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 14, 2023 at 1:26 pm #

        They’re now saying it was arson, of course. By whom, they have not elaborated. Was Ray Epps in LA last week?

        • benr November 14, 2023 at 4:42 pm #

          One of the Philippine Jihadi manuals captured talked about forest fires as a means of disruption.
          My vote is on mooslems or eco-terrorists.

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 14, 2023 at 1:20 pm #

      The Onion?

      • cowbell81 November 14, 2023 at 1:25 pm #

        The Bee

        • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 14, 2023 at 1:28 pm #

          Funny. Have plenty of family members that are staunch lib, as I’ve mentioned before. They love The Onion…but if it’s from The Bee, even if funny, it’s not funny.

        • Jarek November 14, 2023 at 2:20 pm #

          I read about DeSantis wearing heels. I have no idea if that’s a joke or not. Is he short and trying to look taller. Or does he just naturally walk funny?

          • cowbell81 November 14, 2023 at 3:34 pm #

            Maybe he is trying take a page out of the book of Sam Brinton. If he starts stealing women’s suitcases at hotels and airports then he will really be in trouble. At least DeSantis has a moderately good-looking wife that he can roleplay with.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 14, 2023 at 8:23 pm #

            I just saw a fragment of a video apparently of Tom Green and Monika Lewinsky riding the luggage conveyor where the luggage is picked up:


            Brinton should have tried that instead.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle November 14, 2023 at 8:25 pm #

            Here’s the proper cue where it happens:


  61. BULLITT November 14, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

    After this morning’s inflation report I am just overjoyed! I know now that I am so screwed. We have definitely reached the point of no return. The Country is broke, the West is broke. The government lies like hell. All the inflation created by the government is still there. So, if it goes up just a little, we are still screwed. And guess what, it isn’t going to get any better. With an election year coming up, interest rates will fall IMHO like a rock. We can no longer pay the national debt at rates of 5%. We can no longer support all the mongrels coming into this country without an increase in taxes or a cut in benefits. THE WELL IS GOING DRY! But with low interest rates, people will spend like a drunken sailor on shore leave and inflation will skyrocket. The government will be off the hook as the lower interest cost on the debt will give them the opportunity to get out of the headlines and spend a few more tax dollars. People will be happy with their newfound wealth given to them by FJB!
    So, the question today is, should I take out a 12-month CD at 5.25% or a 3-year CD at 3%.
    Or will the banks crash before the CD matures?

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 14, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

      Airplane bottles of Smirnoff, in mass bulk. Future currency, to be sure.

    • cowbell81 November 14, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

      Maybe inflation will ease even more when the government shut-down begins? We can only hope. They should shut down forever and never re-open for business. We would all be better off for it!

    • jim November 14, 2023 at 3:43 pm #

      You could try a 6 month treasury bill with a yield of around 5.5%, especially if you think inflation will be around for quite some time.

      You would reinvest every 6 months (with the potential of even higher yields) on the assumption that inflation isn’t going away any time soon.

      Maximum flexibility, nice return.

      • OG November 14, 2023 at 4:05 pm #

        Physical gold and silver will survive a collapse of the bankrupt, worthless fiat nonsense that is the US$.

        • jim November 14, 2023 at 6:54 pm #

          The “fiat nonsense,” will continue to pay a nice yield on a six month treasury bill.

          One of the benefits of a fiat currency treasury bill is that the yield will always be paid, if necessary through fiat money creation by the Federal Reserve,

          Yes, excess debt can hurt our economy whether financed by money creation or additional debt creation–but yield interest on treasury debt is an iron-clad guarantee no matter the over-all macro-economic situation.

          Would love to hear why you believe this is not the case.

          • messianicdruid November 14, 2023 at 8:20 pm #

            It depends on how quickly you are able to spend them [ federal reserve notes ].

          • OG November 14, 2023 at 11:50 pm #

            If something cannot continue forever, it will stop.

            BRICS will form. Asset-backed currencies with out-demand fiat. Throw in people globally having had enough of US foreign policy and the collapse of the US$ fiat nonsense is fated.

          • OG November 14, 2023 at 11:51 pm #

            Stack Au & Ag. All the cool kids are doing it.

  62. messianicdruid November 14, 2023 at 1:25 pm #

    OG – can you read Ogham?

    //// ¡¡ \\\ / |||| ¡¡!! [ no punctuation ]

    Diboo yiboo ibundiberstiband iberg?

    • OG November 14, 2023 at 4:01 pm #

      Hey Messi. No, sorry, I know nothing of the ways of Ogham.

      • messianicdruid November 14, 2023 at 8:17 pm #

        Thought maybe you could help me out; there’s some of this stuff scrawled on the rocks near here.

    • jim November 14, 2023 at 9:43 pm #

      In reply to your comment on the speed of spending Federal Reserve notes:

      I would argue that there are no direct spending constraints on a government that is a monetary sovereign. It can always create money or debt to fund its spending needs (and spend at any speed) without first having to obtain the funding.

      However there are many indirect economic constraints, especially a situation where federal spending increases demand without indirectly or directly increasing supply which can result in imbalances that must, at some point, be resolved by implicit or explicit transfers of some sort including higher taxes, inflation, tariffs, trade deficits, currency depreciations, higher unemployment, etc.

  63. Danimal28 November 14, 2023 at 2:31 pm #

    You’re spot-on here, Kunst. The need for control arises with fear.

  64. cowbell81 November 14, 2023 at 3:03 pm #

    Just watched the Douglass Mackey interview with Tucker on X. Scary times, scary times indeed. One day all of us will probably have the chance to finally meet one another in a prison cell once the Feds root us out for conspiring here on Jim’s blog, for one reason or another, no matter how bogus and far-fetched.

    • OG November 14, 2023 at 4:00 pm #

      Ha! Some conspiracy we are! We can’t agree that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 14, 2023 at 5:04 pm #

        Huh. I thought it was the other way around.

      • cowbell81 November 14, 2023 at 5:16 pm #

        The sun always rises over Miami. The moon rises over my hammy.

        • RD3 November 15, 2023 at 9:18 am #

          Eggs Over my Hammy was always my go-to at Denny’s.

          • RD3 November 15, 2023 at 9:19 am #

            Sorry. It was called Moons Over my Hammy…

      • Soul Forensics November 14, 2023 at 5:54 pm #

        Everyone in the Tropic of Capricorn knows that the sun sets in the South.

  65. cowbell81 November 14, 2023 at 5:23 pm #

    Chant heard at the protests in Madrid:

    “Please, Tucker, help us with these mother f*ckers!”

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  66. OG November 14, 2023 at 6:29 pm #

    Using the estimated 11,000 Palis dead in Israel’s attack on Gaza and some simple math:

    11,000 dead / 2,000,000 (Gaza population) = 0.55% dead

    0.55% dead x 330,000,000 (US population) = 1,815,000 dead

    1,815,000 dead / 3,000 dead* = 605 9/11s

    *3,000 dead = 1-9/11 (standard unit of measure of mass death)

    • benr November 14, 2023 at 8:25 pm #

      I see this number everywhere and yet who is actually counting the dead and reporting the numbers?
      We all know Hamas lies.
      We all know Israel also lies.
      While we are at it we all know the US media lies.
      I would suggest those numbers are inflated by 100 times at least.
      How many of these Jordanian Arabs now calling themselves Palestinians were murdered by Hamas?
      Odd how no Arab countries are stepping up to help take these people in imagine that could it be that everywhere they go they cause unrest and problems….naw no way.

      • KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 9:57 pm #

        I recall that in studies carried out by the Prussians in the 18th Century , and studies carried out by the Americans after WW II ,

        on average it takes the expenditure of 300 to 500 rounds to get one kill.

        ( Not counting wounded. )

        And imperfect system to be sure , but I prefer to rely on numbers compiled when and where it seems that there is less of an axe to grind.

        • KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 10:06 pm #

          On the one hand , there is a strong desire to imagine a Sargeant York behind every rifle.

          And on the one hand , there is a strong desire to discount the possibility that the average person isn’t totally stupid , and has a very strong desire to go on living.

          • benr November 15, 2023 at 9:42 am #

            The average human has to be conditioned to pull the trigger it is not a natural response to easily kill another human.
            The average human is also traumatized by doing this.

            Makes me wonder about the 15 black kids that stomped another child to death in Las Vegas.
            How is it no one stepped in and stopped this?
            By all accounts the child they murdered was a good kid it would appear our society is churning out psychopaths all over the place.
            I was sitting in a restaurant watching the boob tube wafting for a table and a mix of videos came on of people doing stupid stunts and messing up came on the majority of them the people bounced up no worse for the wear but a few of them looked like they really hurt and all I could do was cringe.
            The kind of cringe that makes you knees or some other body part feel funny.
            The weirdest part everyone around me was laughing.

            All I could think of was this is not a scripted episode of the three stooges this is real people getting hurt there is nothing funny about this.

            Another odd reality adjustment was the scene in pulp fiction where one of the characters accidently blows a black kids head off in the back of the car and everyone laughed.
            I again cringed there was NOTHING funny about this.

            Give me a stupid Mel Brooks movie and I laugh all day long.
            Young Frankstien
            Blazing Saddals
            Some Benny Hill please.
            A side of Cheech and Chong.
            Airplane 1 not Airplane 2!

        • benr November 15, 2023 at 10:21 am #

          We now know the Hospital explosion in the parking lot killed at least 300 and by some accounts up to 500 people was the handy work of a failed ham-ass missile.
          Again, how many people have the ham handed ass burglers calling themselves ham-ass murdered?
          It is also widely reported ham-ass is murdering people who try to flee the warzone.
          Not just kidnapping, raping, and murdering Israeli teenage girls at world peace raves
          I heard a podcast where someone broke down the actual charter and meaning of Hamas it was very revealing as to the demonic intent of these barbarian scum.
          Hamas is the hebrew word for – violence.

      • OG November 14, 2023 at 10:16 pm #

        There’s not 11,000 dead Palis?

        Then how many Palis do think that are dead on account of Israel’s bombing and invasion of Gaza, benr?

        Maybe just 500 Pali 9/11s (9,000 dead Palis)? Maybe just 100 Pali 9/11s (1,818)?

        [FYI – Mathematically, there are 18 dead Palis per each Pali 9/11.]

        • King of Comedy November 14, 2023 at 11:39 pm #

          It’s Jihadi math. whatever number Hamas gives, you divide by 72 so I’m going with about 150… or 1/3 of a 10/7.

          • King of Comedy November 15, 2023 at 10:39 am #

            In Jihadi math, numbers don’t necessarily have to add up so 1/3 (or anything for that matter) would be correct but as I am an unrepentant colonist, I have to use that “white supremacy” math where 150 would be roughly 1/10 of a 10/7 unit. My apologies…

      • King of Comedy November 14, 2023 at 11:48 pm #

        It’s a pisser that the guy who sees multi-layer conspiracies everywhere and who is the self-appointed arbiter of gullibility takes the numbers reported by Hamas (Hamas, for fuck’s sake) as if they were graven on stone tablets floating down from the heavens.

        • benr November 15, 2023 at 10:00 am #

          He obviously has no clue about pallywood videos.

          • OG November 15, 2023 at 10:49 am #

            You’re right. I do not. They sound very much like ISIS “beheading” videos. Am I right?

        • OG November 15, 2023 at 10:47 am #

          You do not argue fairly, Kinger. I said no such thing. That is a pure strawman. In fact, 32 minutes before you foisted this ridiculous attack upon me, I was discussing the actual number of Palis dead versus the Hamas-reported number of 11,000.

          How many Palis dead do you think, Kinger? How many Pali 9/11s (so far)?

          I am not the self-appointed arbiter of gullibility … but I have led in the development of a rather simple Sociological test that is proving to be very promising in quantifying any subject’s gullibility and, therefore, susceptibility to repeatedly and regularly swallow vast amounts of blatantly obvious Grade ‘A’ government bull shit.

          • King of Comedy November 15, 2023 at 11:09 am #

            Answer above:

            1/3 of a 10/7 unit if you use Jihadi math, 1/10 of a 10/7 unit if you use colonizer math.

  67. tom clark November 14, 2023 at 8:03 pm #

    OG…you’re just as bizarre as back in the days when you handled as OG Hawkins.

    • OG November 14, 2023 at 10:05 pm #

      Thanks, Tom. I do my best.

      • KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 10:13 pm #

        You are obliged to be yourself.

        So you might as well look at it positively.



        • KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 10:25 pm #

          Of course my favorite N.W.A line is from Gangsta Gangsta ;

          ” Do I look like a motherfuckin’ role model ?

          To a kid lookin ‘ up to me ;

          Life ain’t nothing but bitches and money. ”

          But that’s harsh.

          • OG November 14, 2023 at 11:42 pm #


  68. mitchellc November 14, 2023 at 8:09 pm #

    Michael Hudson bringing some truth.

    (Notice how so many are now referencing energy? JHK was ahead of the curve, but was [initially] hobbled by his disbelief of organized, premeditated actions.)

    (Karl1: Hudson argues it’s the Outlaw US Empire wagging the Zionist tail, not the other way around, and IMO he raises many excellent points in support. Here’s a very important tract from Hudson.)

    Well, this is the role of the fighting in Gaza today. Netanyahu’s fight against Gaza is being used as the excuse for America moving its warships there, its submarines, and bombing, along with Israel, the Syrian airport so that the Syrians are not able to move weapons or any kind of military support either to Lebanon, to the west, or Iran, to the east.
    So it’s obvious that all of what we’re seeing is somehow to soften up public opinion for the fact that, well, just like we had to invade Iraq because of 9/11, we have to now finally fight and take out the oil refineries of Iran and their scientific institutes and any laboratories where they may be doing atomic research.

    And Iran realizes this. Last week, the Iranian press TV said that their defense minister says that if there’s any attack on Iran, whether by Israel or by anyone else, the U.S. and its foreign bases are going to be hit hard.

    Iran, Russia, China have all looked at the Gaza situation not as if it’s an Israeli action, but as if it’s the U.S. action. They all see exactly that it’s all about Iran, and the American press only says when it talks about Gaza or Hamas or Hezbollah or any other group, it’s always the Iranian tool so-and-so.

    They’re demonizing Iran in the same way that the neocons have demonized Russia to prepare for America declaring an undeclared war against Iran. And they may even declare war.

    Last night, on [November] 8, the Republicans had their presidential debate without Trump, and Nikki Haley said, you know, we’ve got to fight Iran, we’ve got to conquer it. And DeSantis of Florida said, yes, kill them all. He didn’t say who the them was. Was it Hamas? Was it everybody who lives in Gaza? Was it all of the Arabs in the Middle East?

    And we’re really seeing something very much like the Crusades here. It’s a real fight for who is going to control energy, because, again, the key, if you can control the world’s flow of energy, you can do to the whole world what the United States did to Germany last year by blowing up the Nord Stream pipelines.

    • mitchellc November 14, 2023 at 8:12 pm #

      More Karl1:

      I’m currently in the middle of the talk Ben Norton had a few days ago with Micheal Hudson, the transcript being here.

      Hudson is fantastic for bringing the long term perspective regarding Outlaw US Empire policy and has noted three very important, never changing points:

      First, “The United States has always viewed Israel as just our foreign military base”;

      Second, Biden yet again on 18 October repeating his mantra: ““I have long said, if Israel didn’t exist, we’d have to invent it”;

      Third, “Israel is a landed aircraft carrier in the Near East. Israel is the takeoff point for America to control the Near East.”

    • dorn November 15, 2023 at 10:15 am #

      I would like to see an elaboration on what is being seen as “something very much like the Crusades here.” I have long been an advocate of the militarization of church, to defend not only Christendom, but the State, itself.

  69. BULLITT November 14, 2023 at 9:11 pm #

    What if we are reading this whole ME situation wrong? Let’s suppose Biden and Obama hate Israel. Let’s suppose that Biden and Obama have a deal with Iran. IMHO, the Obama/Biden regime has been pretty nice to Iran. Valerie Jarrett has some influence in this matter. What has Israel to offer the U.S.?? Iran has oil and a strategic location. Israel is a money pit.
    BTW, we don’t do much for Italy even though we have many Italians in the U.S.
    There’s a lot of pro-Hamas going on in this country. Pro-Hamas is pro-Iran. Who’s funding and coordinating all the protests?
    We may be fooled again this time around. The same people who were so pro Ukraine were fooled. Sooner or later, they find out it was just another racket and the Ukranian population paid dearly.
    We know the sun will come up tomorrow. Other than that, we are guessing like all the other so-called experts!

    • JohnAZ November 15, 2023 at 9:43 am #


      An estimated 290000 folks who are Pro-Israel showed up in DC yesterday.

      Looks like both sides are well represented in America.

      Like every other issue. America will never heal from its division over the last 30 years.

      The Deep State continues to push division, both domestically and globally, to maintain its power.

      It will not go on much longer, like maybe next year.

      The trigger? The re-election of Donald Trump who is getting farther and farther ahead in the polls for the general election.

      A scenario presented yesterday, The Trump-? Ticket wins the election, Trump is pardoned by the Vice-president to become president again.

      Pardoned from the “trumped” up charges that are being used to try to stop the electorate from electing him. If they can convict him of anything.

      Trump wins, the Progressive woke nuts will try to secede, like Cher. Maybe a lot of the “new” Americans will just go home when the money tap dries up and they have to compete for jobs.

      • benr November 15, 2023 at 10:09 am #

        A pardon from the President or VP is for federal charges only.
        State charges are Governors level.

  70. KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 9:38 pm #

    ” And poor Meg, Meg. How would this Meg fit in as one of the Little Women in Amherst, Massachusetts circa, 1880? ”

    — Jarek

    Interestingly M3gan is pretty much the only one in the movie who is dressed up.

    And , naturally , ” dressed up ” means archaic.

    I would say her look is early 20th – Century / Edwardian.

    I don’t know why they did that ; a nod to American Girl Dolls , Japanese anime with its Sailor suits and skirts are the norm ?

    I suppose subconsciously that was another thing that drew me to the movie .

    There are exceptions of course , but nine times out of ten the only folks dressed up in Church are the clergy , and myself.

    And , of course , in both cases the style is distinctly archaic.

    Except for the Blonde hair and blue eyes , I look a bit like M3gan in the setting.

    Ridicule of the Catholic Church on this score ; Men in dresses with pink slippers ,

    doesn’t mean shit to me.

    I would describe modern fashion thus ;

    — dressed for gym class

    — dressed like the Roto – Rooter Man

    — dressed like a Headhunter from Borneo

    ” Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ”

    and , ” Jedem das Seine ‘ , they say.

    So , ” It don’t mean a God damned thing to me ! Not to Old Cigarette it don’t ! “

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  71. mitchellc November 14, 2023 at 9:38 pm #

    I like where you’re going; it’s a pleasure to watch dawning awareness.

    Cults promote ideology over rational thought – as such it makes adherents easy targets for master manipulators.

    Like the Nazis before them, backed by US financial and industrial interests to form a bulwark against the Soviet union, Zionists have forfeited any favorable legacy, and are now forever stained by active genocide in the Palestinian Holocaust.

    And for what reason? To merely act as the West’s spear against Iran in a bid to control the ME oil fields.

    Why did the Zionists take the bait, and in so doing willingly carry out crimes against humanity? What do ordinary Jews think when they realize they were duped in a staged, “let’s let you and him fight” on behalf of the Empire?

    And what happens when their usefulness is over, and they’re discarded like so many prior proxy victims?

    • King of Comedy November 15, 2023 at 10:35 am #

      “Palestinian Holocaust”…somebody should be asking Santa for a copy of Basic Maths for Dummies in their stocking

    • JohnAZ November 15, 2023 at 10:47 am #

      Why do you insist on this debacle being one-sided? Do you really believe that Iran-Hamas, Hezbollah are poor widdle me pariahs that Israel chooses to just beat up every so often. That the Arabs are faultless throughout history since 1948, that declarations by the leaders of Iran to destroy Israel are warranted.

      Have the Arabs carried out crimes against humanity? Who started all the conflagrations since 1948?

      • Groundhog November 15, 2023 at 9:02 pm #

        Well, there is no way of getting around the simple and basic fact that in 1948 a decision was made to attempt to reverse the results of Rome’s destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. The Old Testament features countless stories about ancient Israel’s problems such as being captured by Babylon being the result of rebelling or ignoring God’s commandments. And it was ancient Persia (now Iran) that made it possible for them to return home.

        If Jesus already knew that it would be all over for Israel in the year 70 then we should understand that God approved and it was over for the last time. The Jews were to be scattered all over the Roman Empire. Some of the diaspora Jews moved to Rome itself, and some of them belonged to the Jewish sect following Jesus. The Christians. Eventually the Christians took over completely and spread everywhere and took over both Western and Mid-Eastern countries and cultures. Trying to reverse a 2000 year old decision to end Israel seems utterly foolish and destined for failure. In 1948 nobody gave a thought as to what to do with the resident Palestinians who don’t wish to be forced to into living in Western/Jewish culture. Of course the Palestinians are bitter about this.and no solution is possible. They should have considered this a lot more when taking that land.

        In the Vatican there are little to zero paintings and statures of Roman gods. But many many images of people who lived in ancient Israel. Jesus, saints, apostles etc. are featured instead. The RCC is a bit of a blend of Roman paganism and Jewish influences. People die all the time defending their religions and cultures. How was it fair that the Palestians lost their land because another ancient religious group wanted theirs back that they lost 2 millenia ago? The people involved should have first tried to negotiate the situation by setting up the purchase of another chunk of land large enough for them deeded over to the Palestinians, boosted with additional tons of money. If they’d made the offer attactive enough the Palestinians might have been willing to make a deal. That deal in the end would have been cheaper than all the countless billions spent on warfare during the last 75 years.

        • Groundhog November 15, 2023 at 9:11 pm #

          A comment about Iran. Kinda ironic that Israel is threating the very land that helped them return home a very long time ago. Had Cyrus not done this there would have been no need to destroy Jerusalem in 70 AD. Thats because Israel would have died many centuries before the year 70. It was the land of what is now Iran that saved their postition in world history. Why would Israel feel good about destroying Iran when it was the place that once saved them. Talk about biting the hand of the person that once fed you and kept you from starving so to speak.

    • Paula D November 16, 2023 at 7:44 pm #

      You read MoA, and you think that bullitt claiming that Iran controls Hamas is “dawning awareness”?

      I expect media slurpers to channel the absurd claim that Iran controls Hamas, but not a MoA reader. What is Qatar, chopped liver?

      And yeah, “Holocaust” used to have an actual meaning, much like “genocide” and “pandemic”. Those days seem to be over.

  72. KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 9:48 pm #

    Just last night a Russian commentor elsewhere on the Net said something like ,

    ” We have the Americans to thank for Zelensky opting for one bad choice after another. ”

    I replied , ” Ngo Dinh Diem says ; American frienship is the kiss of death. And ; With friends like these , who needs enemies ? ”

    ( Later it occurred to me that the Shah of Iran could have said the same too. )

    He liked my comment.

    • Groundhog November 15, 2023 at 6:54 pm #

      The Diem’s were Catholic and a leftover of French colonialism. There was no way the Diem regime could ever have lasted as long as it did without US “help”. What we acomplished instead was a genocide of the citizens of Vietnam. I wonder what the total death toll on that country was. North Vietnam was supposedly a threat to the USA. And what happened after our defeat? We left Vietnam and completely forgot about all our crimes there. If this country was such a threat why is this supposedly communist country now a trading partner with the USA. I have things in my home that were recently made in Vietnam. Why did our leaders have such poor judgement? Unless, of course, the real reason for the war was simply to increase the collective wealth of the MIC?

  73. mitchellc November 14, 2023 at 10:25 pm #

    So dear readers, for those of you following along at home, the game board is being filled and beginning to take shape.

    We now have three clearly identified proxy :: target players, in the form of:

    Ukraine :: Russia
    Taiwan :: China
    Israel :: Iran

    The only two remaining major strategic regions left are S America and Africa. My guess is Venezuela may not need a proxy since it falls under Monroe, so maybe a direct USA :: Venezuela relationship.

    Africa, who knows? It seems France will be primary direct coordinator for that continent; our agent perhaps.

    With one industrial zone and four major energy regions in play (the 5th being our very own N America), the table is set to maintain dollar hegemony.

    If we can hold the line in protecting the global reserve, there really isn’t any fundamental reason why our national debt couldn’t go to 100T or even 1 quadrillion.

    Again, recall this is all just digitized assets and liabilities completely untethered to reality. We left the realm of “value” long ago, so I’m not sure there’s any upper limit as everything simply gets re indexed.

    The name of the game is energy, and it’s effect on global policy – in fact our entire civilization – utterly dwarfs such insignificant side shows Iike elections, covid, what have you.

    • OG November 14, 2023 at 10:37 pm #

      If something cannot go on forever, it will stop.

    • gustafson.robert.22 November 15, 2023 at 9:17 am #

      I agree with this in that actual energy shortages will likely be the only thing to bring the airship down, and it will take a certain amount of time.

      But actual energy shortages are coming. Oil has been straining to maintain heyday supply-bonanza levels for decades. That supply-chain will break. Nothing will replace oil. Then economic and sociopolitical dominos will fall.

      • OG November 15, 2023 at 10:30 am #

        Nothing will replace oil.

        Where’s Htruth when you need him?

        • JohnAZ November 15, 2023 at 10:41 am #


          When I saw the wind farms east of Northumberland England, it really struck me that renewable sources of energy will never replace oil, gas and coal. Fossil fuels contain so much energy in their carbon chains, put there by hundreds of millions of years of photosynthesis, that the first order use of solar energy, wind and solar, just cannot compete.

          The wind farm offshore of England had dimensions of more than a hundred miles on a side. That size is one fourth of the eventual size. We were a hundred miles away from land and the edges were right next to us. This enormous project is going to produce power for 26 million homes, per the info I have found. 26 million homes, a mere bagatelle.

          A perfect example of the futility of renewables, by the time they finish the project, the market will need 26 million more homes worth. We need more renewables, and more fossil fuels just to keep up.


          • OG November 15, 2023 at 10:58 am #

            Htruth did not advocate renewables, JAZ. Htruth was all about harnessing the earth’s existing energy à la Nikola Tesla.

          • Groundhog November 15, 2023 at 2:05 pm #

            ” We need more renewables, and more fossil fuels just to keep up.”

            What you speak of aren’t needs – they are wants. Just because you *want* to live a certain lifestyle doesn’t mean that you will or that you can. For example you want to drive nice automobiles. Fine! But with fuel being strictly rationed because there isn’t enough of it available to support a car culture. So what the average person might be using instead for personal transport in the future will be something like the new 125cc Honda Super Cub that gets 188 mpg. This new model motorbike has all the latest high tech installed like computer controlled fuel injection to get that sort of mileage. We’ll be a third world nation and we will be living just like they do in Africa – motorbikes everywhere and some being used for hauling an amazing amount of stuff.

          • Soul Forensics November 15, 2023 at 3:49 pm #


            Tuk tuk wallahs will become a booming profession.

          • Groundhog November 15, 2023 at 6:42 pm #

            Tuk tuk wallahs…..

            I just learned a new word today. Had to google it. They call ’em that because the motors make a tuk tuk sound.

  74. KesaAnna November 14, 2023 at 11:31 pm #

    ” The seven deadly sins apply to people, not demons.
    I would think that Christians would know them.

    Envy, gluttony, greed or avarice, lust, pride, sloth, and wrath.

    Pride= Narcissism.

    Greed=American credo, exemplified by Gates, WEF, Fauci, Biden, etc.

    Gluttony= SAD, Standard American Diet

    Lust= Standard American Entertainment, and now, Primary Education

    Envy= Advertising

    Sloth= Fossil Fuel Dependence

    Wrath = US Foreign Policy ”

    — Paula D

    Lol , excellent !

    I liked The Gulag Archipelago for two reasons ;

    — Nostalgia. It is always nice to go home , even if abstractly / vicariously

    — It applied just as well to the United States.

    My favorite short Solzhenitsyn piece was his Harvard Commencement Address.

    Where , according to my interpretation , he said is was not state media and censorship versus Free Speech.

    The West does the same thing as the Soviet Union , and in fact does it better.

    In the Soviet Union if they don’t like what you say , you get shot or go to prison. And often enough this makes THEM look bad.

    In America if they don’t like what you say , you lose your job , and cannot get re – hired.

    You still have to eat . So your options then are —

    — You move into your parents basement. In that case , even with the internet — you still have to afford the internet — nobody will hear you anyway.

    — Some sort of crime. Then you go to jail. They can then claim it was all on account of the crime , never mind how and why you wound up stealing a loaf of bread.

    Again , actually a better form of censorship . Everything can be plausibly blamed on the individual.

    — At least until it gets completely out of hand , like it has now ,

    and even Soccer Mom – types dream up terms like , ” Cancelled ”

    ” Memory – Holed ” and such.

  75. SoftStarLight November 15, 2023 at 2:56 am #

    “American friendship is the kiss of death”

    It’s been a longish sort of day but not in a bad way and for whatever reason as I read down the thread this phrase stood out to me. When friendship, kiss, and death appear in close proximity I assume many people will find reason to pause at least momentarily, no.

    With these sorts of stories are there not at least two sides? A falling into ruin for one is a ticket to easy street for another. A disappointment for one is satisfaction for another. Is it truly the case that your options are zero sum when you kiss the American? Or is it simply the calculus of nature knocking to let you know that the win-win scenario situations people love to talk up are actually somewhat less rare than unicorns?

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    • KesaAnna November 15, 2023 at 4:10 am #

      ” When friendship, kiss, and death appear in close proximity I assume many people will find reason to pause at least momentarily, no. ”

      That was the idea.

      On the other hand , that could be self – flattering.

      I can’t speak for you , and certainly it is likely that you have an entirely different agenda.

      But as for myself , I definitely pause at certain usernames , and typically read their stuff . I suppose it is debatable whether they deserve the attention , or are no more or less deserving than the one I don’t read ?

      My best guess is that I certainly have my biases , and most likely arbitrary biases.

      ” the win-win scenario situations people love to talk up are actually somewhat less rare than unicorns? ”

      Again , why the good news ( ? ) is that a , ” Fuck you bitch ! ” isn’t as meaningful to me as people apparently hope it would be.

      And certainly not now. At least in my case , you don’t get to be 57 years old because rejection and broken hearts kills you.

      The bad news ( ? ) is a cardinal rule in my book is ;

      Trust nobody.

      I have my suspicions that Judas was not so much an individual person , but a blanket trope.

      — but you have to trust somebody.

      — but then , ” have to ” isn’t really a choice , isn’t really voluntary.

      For example , how this works with gun rights ;

      Do I think everyone can be trusted with an AK – 47 ?

      Frankly ; No.

      But then , pfft , show me the trustworthy ones please. I never met the species , just like I never met Bigfoot.

      So , in my view , ” Just give the guns to the good people ” is a fucking fairytale guaranteed to result in your getting fucked.

      YOU SAID IT ; Win – Win is a unicorn.

      • SoftStarLight November 15, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

        It’s not that it can’t happen. Which I realize you allude to. But it isn’t something you can count on happening. Which you also allude to. Thus we have reached a place in which we are on the same wavelength. Is that a win-win you can love? In my view the answer is – perhaps -.

        Most problems with communication have nothing to do with words or body language. Typically it is because those who are communicating are not even in the same psychic/mental places and are certainly not on the same wavelength.

        Now regarding agendas..that’s a whole separate can of worms

      • Jarek November 15, 2023 at 1:37 pm #

        Do you hear yourself? No Judas? Maybe no Christ either? No 2nd Amendment perhaps? The intoxication of words. One secret of why people like to smoke.

        Either/or. Completely trustworthy or worthless scum. Welcome to Kesaville.

        Give the guns to the good people? Why, yes. Among your own people that is. No sane White likes seeing minorities at gun shows.

  76. SoftStarLight November 15, 2023 at 3:11 am #

    “If we can hold the line in protecting the global reserve, there really isn’t any fundamental reason why our national debt couldn’t go to 100T or even 1 quadrillion.”

    I too believe in magic, but this is a bridge too far for even me. This tells you that you are already in overshoot and should you not have a parachute I’m afraid you’re in trouble. My superstitious thought processes tell me that you maybe have a chance of holding the line in protecting the global reserve if you immediately and drastically begin to live within your means. Yes, I realize that is a fairy tale. So maybe you aren’t the global reserve. But you can rest assured knowing that none of the other guys are living within their means either and time will level all of you out.

    • JohnAZ November 15, 2023 at 10:21 am #


      It is bullshit that the debt does not matter. US Treasuries flood both the domestic and foreign money markets, even the Gold bullion markets where large amounts of supposed gold are really US Treasuries.

      Just examine what the flood of Treasuries are caused by, borrowing from the future to buy stuff today. Who are being borrowed from, who are the creditors? People around the world. That is why the dollar remains the reserve currency, the debt is in dollars.

      Now, around the world, who will want their money back from the Treasuries in the future? Everybody!!!! China is already selling their accumulation of Treasuries, BRICS++ will join in, even the WEF, Europe will start calling in their Treasuries.

      Why? To pay off their debts, to finance future expenditures, and that is national level.

      You and I, just folks everywhere will want to cash in those treasuries to try to maintain our standard of living as individual capital pools decline, even the estates of Boomers passing through will be sources of Treasury debt for the future.

      You see the amount of debt each person owes through the government, hundreds of thousands per taxpayer. Take that away from your capital pool and what is left?

      Now double and triple it as higher interest rates and increasing political dysfunction make the debt more unmanageable.

      Macroeconomics are just as affected by debt as microeconomics. Do we just keep on spending if bankruptcy looms? Well, most of us anyway. Personal debt is also skyrocketing.

      If debt does not matter, let us just wipe the books clean and start over? What would happen?

      That is what is going to happen in the future in slo-motion anyway.

      • SoftStarLight November 15, 2023 at 1:35 pm #

        It is called a debt jubilee. The Bible mentions it but I have no real understanding of it other than that it exists. It sounds like it is something that has been done before. Sorta like a movie that is being played again.

        • Groundhog November 15, 2023 at 7:42 pm #

          It seems to me that having debt jubilees is the best way of discouraging companies like banks from loaning money in the first place.

        • Paula D November 16, 2023 at 7:54 pm #

          The Great Reset is actually a debt jubilee.

          They forgive our average $100,000 debts and in return their $20 quadrillion debt is forgiven.

          But just like in the original Jubilees, the rich somehow manage to stay rich, and the poor stay poor, even if the debts are wiped out.

          That’s where the “You will own nothing and be happy” part comes in.

      • Groundhog November 15, 2023 at 7:50 pm #

        “If debt does not matter, let us just wipe the books clean and start over? What would happen?”

        What would happen is the entire banking system would – well – go bankrupt! Most banks make money off interest paid on loans. No matter how much you hate banks our current civilization won’t run at all without banks.

    • mitchellc November 15, 2023 at 10:38 am #

      JAZ, you are of course entirely correct.

      Except … if one controls energy: oil/gas fields, processing plants and distribution networks.

      That’s what the MIC is for – not to serve and protect some fantasy idea of a self governing republic, but to provide the muscle behind “freedom and liberty”, or else.

      For years I’ve used this simple formula to explain how the world works:
      $USD = energy = MIC. (You can restate the relationships in any order.)

      If, as Nordstream is to Germany, we can continue to control the actual physical global energy market, then yes, the dollar can in theory go to 1 quadrillion.

      • JohnAZ November 15, 2023 at 10:54 am #

        Well, number one, look around, the MIC is losing and it is accelerating.

        Whether or not any debt is sustainable depends on putting off the creditors, if creditors start calling in their loans, the house of cards collapses.

        Historically, that is what happened in 1929 and almost what happened in 2008. Margin calls in the stock market clobbered many of the Gilded Age and home mortgages about destroyed the banks on 2008.

        Debt matters. If the USA goes down, China is waiting with baited breath, maybe all of BRICS++, who may control the future anyway.

      • mitchellc November 15, 2023 at 11:47 am #

        JAZ, again you are entirely correct … if we fail.

        China-Russia are patiently building the foundation for a multi-polar world.

        This of course would include war tribunals; we, the general public would not escape a judgment of collective guilt.

        So the only recourse we have to protect us from such a conviction is to stay the course with the current program.

        That’s why there’s no way out. For those dreaming of some kind of reform, as if the system could actually be controlled, it would merely lead to collapse, perhaps dwarfing the misery of the post Soviet days.

        I’m curious as to when Jim and other intellectuals figure this out. Strike that – of course they already realize this, so it’s a really a function of when those secret fears become vocalized.

  77. SoftStarLight November 15, 2023 at 3:27 am #

    I thought you knew that Israel wore the pants in the family? Sure, I could totally be reading propaganda but from what I can see Israel is essentially dismantling Hamas piece by piece and forcibly removing them from Gaza. Apparently Palestinian civilians are looting abandoned Hamas camps and bases. If this is the sitch on the ground then it is basically Israel driven. Yes Americans are there helping no doubt but they’re not in charge. So I don’t see that the Zionists were duped into a conflict. What I do see is that the conflict is seen as yet another reason to obligate Americans to go further into debt servitude and give up the remaining token rights they have.

    • KesaAnna November 15, 2023 at 4:17 am #

      ” What I do see is that the conflict is seen as yet another reason to obligate Americans to go further into debt servitude and give up the remaining token rights they have. ”

      That would be my guess.

      Nobody in Nebraska is really bleeding hearts for Jews.

      And nobody in South Carolina really gives a fuck that Palestinian children are being genocided.

      Notice that an entire generation has grown up tall enough to look me in the eye , who weren’t even born when 911 happened.

      But the Patriot Act is still with us.

      And don’t get me started on a Century – old Prohibition.

      • Jarek November 15, 2023 at 1:03 pm #

        You got that wrong. Americans who never even met a Jew are crazy for them and Israel. It’s called Christian Zionism.

        Like Liberals who love Blacks…..

        • SoftStarLight November 15, 2023 at 1:41 pm #


          Did you happen to see the story of those Montana cowboys who were headed off to Israel to protect the borders of Judea and Samaria? I wondered to myself why there are no cowboys rushing to our southern or northern border to protect them. Maybe they already know there is nothing to protect here or perhaps not enough fame in doing so?

          Similarly, far more Americans get animated about the plight of Palestinians then say for example the thousands of people locked up for protesting on J6. When was there a protest and mourning procession for Ashli Babbit?

          • Jarek November 15, 2023 at 5:11 pm #

            The Black hockey player who killed another with a kick to the throat with his skate returned to his home ice. The White crowd cheered him.

            Utterly lost and degraded they are.

          • SoftStarLight November 15, 2023 at 9:24 pm #

            I think he was arrested in London but then released on bail. But why cheer for him? If anything it seems like he himself wouldn’t want to play anymore.

          • Jarek November 16, 2023 at 2:11 am #

            He likes hurting people. They give him money for it. Why would he stop?

  78. JohnAZ November 15, 2023 at 9:50 am #

    For all you folks that demean Fox News, I challenge you to find a popular news network that tells the “truth” nearly as much as Fox, both nationally or locally. CNN, MSNBC, the corporate excuses for newspapers are so obviously biased towards the Deep State and the uniparty, it is laughable.

    The latest, Hochul, governor of New York, wants to put government surveillance over the contents of social media to censor mis information.

    You know, mis-information like the conservative POV. Like this blog, remember JHK lives in upstate NY. Watch out Jim, Big Sister may be watching you in the future.

    In the mean time, I will continue to watch Fox.

    • SoftStarLight November 15, 2023 at 1:46 pm #

      There probably doing that in all states, John. Kathy just can’t help letting the cat out of the bag. You can just tell that she loves feeling important and powerful.

    • Paula D November 16, 2023 at 7:57 pm #

      Niki Haley wants to make all internet users give their own names, checked by state ID, to make sure no one can post under a pseudonym.

      Did Fox tell you that? Or are they rooting for Haley?

  79. JohnAZ November 15, 2023 at 10:03 am #

    Just heard the statement that “maybe inflation is under control”,

    How stupid America is, is appalling.

    Biden’s spending spike is installed in the USA, we have inflated prices now that will remain in place. It is a basic mechanism of the Deep State, both parties, to look like they are doing something, spend, spend and spend some more. Gasoline will subside this winter, then roar back next year. A shrunken national reserve will not be available to buffer the cost of gasoline.

    Think about it, John Kerry, Al Gore and Greta will get their way, higher priced FF.

    As long as the 8 or so very conservative House members are there, Biden cannot put in another wave of spending on the immigrants flooding the country. So inflation RATE should stay low, but not the 2% or less the Fed target wants. Interest rates will stay high as a result, cooling the economy, allowing the inflation RATE to continue to moderate. Prices will continue to climb, the dollar worth less every year.

    Enter BRICS++ and its desire for oil in the future.


    • OG November 15, 2023 at 10:21 am #

      Stack physical Au & Ag. That’s what I’d do if I had net worth sitting in US$-denominated digits in some chequing or investment account.

      • OG November 15, 2023 at 10:25 am #

        That is why BRICS is so threatening. BRICS is real money (gold-backed) while US$ is fiat and backed by nothing more than the USA’s good name (such as it is).

        All US$ will become completely worthless one day.

        • JohnAZ November 15, 2023 at 10:31 am #

          You are right, see next.

        • Paula D November 16, 2023 at 7:59 pm #

          BRICS doesn’t have a currency.

      • JohnAZ November 15, 2023 at 10:30 am #


        Look at the international gold bullion banks that nations use to trade gold.
        China is buying gold by selling Treasuries right now.

        Look at the bullion markets today, what will be looking back is a considerable amount of US Treasuries substituting for the gold. IOW, nations are selling Treasuries to the bullion banks for gold. That is a big part of the debt problem, even metals are being undermined by Treasuries.

        The cancer, Treasuries, are everywhere.

        With its relative importance, why isn’t oil the monetary standard? As its supply declines, it will be more important than gold.

        • OG November 15, 2023 at 10:53 am #

          Oil will be the most important commodity while Au will always be the money.

          Determining the importance of oil vs. gold is like trying to rank food, water and air. All are important.

          • JohnAZ November 15, 2023 at 11:03 am #

            True, but

            Oil will become an item of worth, worth so much per barrel and nations will store oil for its value, think of the Strategic oil reserve.

            Gold is already a commodity, being used extensively in high tech.

            Silver even more so as it is part of the EV craze and marketeers are already pitching solver value being inflate by it supply-demand curve,

            I remember an end of the world movie where a family had a cache of gold tried to buy groceries. The storekeepers reluctance to accept gold was that “I cannot eat gold”.

            Remember the law of threes

            Three minute without air, gone.

            Three days without water, gone.

            Three weeks without food, gone.

            Priorities will take place accordingly when TSHF.

          • JohnAZ November 15, 2023 at 11:11 am #

            Another thought, OG.

            Can gold fulfill the role of money in a middle class driven society, where rapid fire fluidity is a necessity?

            Or is gold only suitable in a feudal society with no middle class?

            Is that what is happening? All the PTB preparing for a feudal world?

          • Socrates-Detroit November 15, 2023 at 11:28 am #

            Air is everywhere.

            Fresh water is not. Water is the most important commodity.

            Oil is a distant second, though second most important by far.

          • JimInFlorida2.0 November 15, 2023 at 11:38 am #

            Gresham’s Law says otherwise. Why spend your good money (gold,silver, copper) when you can spend IOU’s to get stuff?

            Gold and silver only have power if a political entity can monopolize it and shield them from the machinations of a rigged market. It won’t work to use gold as a primary guarantee of a currency’s value if another party has a lot of gold and can manipulate its value in a way that harms your own laws regulating its value and use.

            As it is now, IMO, gold is only useful as an escrow asset and in the hands of a third party fiduciary to ensure that trade between governments or countries is successfully transacted. Once the trade or agreement is fulfilled as contracted, then the gold can be returned to the party that put it up as insurance. If a trade is NOT fulfilled in part, THEN the gold is transferred to complete the trade of value and to the party that got shorted. That is the only use for gold that I can see in the function of money i.e. insurance or escrow.

            Of course, other valuable assets can be added to the insurance / escrow but, gold and silver are the best known and would be instantly usable when negotiating a trade.

          • Socrates-Detroit November 15, 2023 at 11:58 am #

            Gold can fulfill the role of money for transactions of large value (which are less recurring), like getting one’s bathroom remodeled, replacing the transmission in one’s car. One can enter into an agreement or contract with a small-town grocer for quantity of so much food over so much time.

            Silver coins can be used for smaller transactions. Eating out, buying groceries.

            It’s probably not workable in real life. It sounds very cumbersome, tedious, and dangerous.

            It would depress business activity a LOT, if for no other reason than the convenience, or inconvenience factor. There’s a reason why people went to paper money that was gold-backed, vs using the real thing. And credit cards are even easier to use than checks or cash.

            But if, when, the SHTF, I think people will be resourceful and resort to that, to some extent, provided the food production and distribution system and utilities don’t break down.

            On the other hand, I had this interesting discussion with my mother years ago. She had secondhand experience with a society that had imploded–occupied Greece during WW2, when as a child, my grandmother took her and my aunt from Athens to their 2nd cousins in rural Greece, so they could survive. My grandfather was commandeered by the Germans into forced labor.

            My mother told me that then, people who had gold and jewelry and bartered it got very little, relative to what it would have fetched before the war. “They’d give it for a bite to eat…”

            We are talking about “big city” dwellers here, who could were struggling to stay alive in the city and went to rural areas, where people grew food or had animals (and not a lot in the best of times then, which is why Greece was one of those lands with relatively high rate of emigration–the land, and the economy could not feed everyone decently).

            The US grows a lot of food–but the vast majority of it comes from “industrial farming”. I think in the Long Emergency, reporter/author JHK wrote that 5-10% of US oil use is for farming: to run machines, transport food, fertilizer.

            If industrial farming breaks down, US food output plummets. So in that situation, extrapolating my grandmother’s experience in WW2, then it may take a lot of gold or silver for not a lot of food.

            But, if Americans 50-60 years ago could drive Beetles, Pintos, Chevettes, and old Honda Civics to save gas, I’m sure several will figure out how to get by with gold and silver–IF they have it in the first place.

          • Soul Forensics November 15, 2023 at 4:14 pm #

            Good replies to gold/silver being unworkable, but the biggest downside precludes them all.

            When TSHTF, govt’s, still intact no matter how corrupt and fractured, will confiscate your meagre, ‘hidden’ stash.

          • OG November 15, 2023 at 4:50 pm #

            It’s like nobody here understands that, when TSHTF, a black market emerges. It is normalcy bias as North Americans cannot fathom TSHTF and it’s inevitable aftermath.

            Divvying up an ounce of gold to eat is far easier than many people realize. For example, imagine this:

            1) Trade 1 oz. gold coin for 30 gallons of gasoline.
            2) Then trade 1 gallon of that gas for a dozen eggs.
            3) Repeat #2 every couple of weeks.

            There. 1 oz. of gold provides protein for a year (360 eggs).

            The real-world black market prices will undoubtedly be different that this simple example but my point is made.

            It is all supply & demand. People will gravitate to Au & Ag out of supply & demand. That has happened everywhere TSHTF ever and always will. Forever.

            Au & Ag is money. Real money.

            SF is right – HIDE YOUR Au & Ag WELL AND TELL NOBODY. [I can safely share my thoughts here on CFN because I no longer have any wealth to protect.]

          • Soul Forensics November 15, 2023 at 5:09 pm #

            The desperate PTB will pull your fingernails off to get your stores after they’ve grilled your transactors, OG.

            Sad but true.

          • OG November 15, 2023 at 5:15 pm #

            Maybe, SF. But that would take time. In the meantime:

            It is better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

            When one enters survival mode, every day is a reward in and of itself.

  80. benr November 15, 2023 at 10:34 am #

    Xi the commie President arrived to San Fransicko today to much pomp and fanfare with not an American flag in sight.
    Wouldn’t want to offend the American President maker and order giver.
    Plenty of commie red flags everywhere though.
    Will this new king maker look at Gavins pearly whites and check his teeth then declare him fit to run after Joe Biden falls off the stage or his souped-up racing bicycle later this year?

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    • JohnAZ November 15, 2023 at 11:07 am #

      Could it be that all the prognostications on the blog are already past tense? Has the Deep State, the Biden Mob already subjugated itself to the CCP?

      I did not see the arrival, but your description is sickening.

    • JimInFlorida2.0 November 15, 2023 at 11:46 am #

      That’s pretty rich to call Xi a commie when our Ivy League universities and Jewish NGO’s can out-commie communist China all day long; including Sunday.

      I don’t see Xi Jinping, Putin, Lukashenko, etc. ramming LGBTQ down their people’s throats or tolerating social disruption for the sake of BLM or Anal Pride Parades at degenerate hell holes like Disney.

      • Groundhog November 15, 2023 at 1:43 pm #

        Hopefully Disney will be gone in a few years and the giant theme park in Florida will become yet another abandoned enterprise that “urban explorers” break into for making you tube videos.

        • malthuss November 15, 2023 at 3:53 pm #

          Filled w Cubans and Haitians?

    • stelmosfire November 15, 2023 at 12:08 pm #

      Xi crosses the Pacific to see his pal Newsom aboard an AirChina commercial 747. From what I have read they modify the plane for his trip but then convert it back to regular passenger service after his trips. I see that when he exits he uses the long/tall staircase. “Joe Biden” travels in style aboard his own 747 at huge expense. He uses the servants entrance and takes the elevator up and down to the living quarters upstairs. Can’t have stumble-bum Joe try to negotiate the real stairs and embarrass our country now can we. Oh, wait.

    • Jarek November 15, 2023 at 1:01 pm #

      Xi cares about his nation and people. Classical Communism eschewed these ideas.

      China is National Socialist now – and it works in a way Communism never did.

    • SoftStarLight November 15, 2023 at 1:49 pm #

      I assume the purpose of Gavin Newsom’s trip to China a week or two back was to kiss the ring and be anointed as the next “President”. He’ll join in the race soon and he will definitely win by a slim margin in the battleground states. There will be leaking pipes and vote counting centers with windows covered with pizza boxes again.

    • Tweedledum November 15, 2023 at 5:05 pm #

      “Wouldn’t want to offend the American President maker and order giver.

      For pity’s sake…what a clownish thing to say, let alone actually believe.

  81. elysianfield November 15, 2023 at 12:01 pm #

    Well, ladies and germs;

    Just saw a snippet of information that suggested that arsonists can be found masturbating, during a fire, within a few blocks of the event.

    This may be true. On the other hand, if you want to catch a firefighter masturbating, you will usually catch them in their firehouse between call-outs.

    • stelmosfire November 15, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

      Got that right. Porn-hub on the phone was a real improvement over the torn up Hustlers and Penthouse mags in the shitter.

  82. MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 15, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

    You’ll be glad to hear that inflation apparently isn’t an issue now. AP said so. The markets are up!


    And here I thought I was just paying 40% more for everything than I was two years ago. Guess I was mistaken…oops!

    So, all is well.

    • gustafson.robert.22 November 15, 2023 at 1:34 pm #


      • SoftStarLight November 15, 2023 at 1:54 pm #

        I know! Me too. I’m glad to know everyone is crazy with me and that i’m not the crazy one 🙂

    • SoftStarLight November 15, 2023 at 1:53 pm #

      Wow thanks for clarifying! I must have simply been hallucinating those outrageous prices at the store too!

  83. mitchellc November 15, 2023 at 1:15 pm #

    The collapse of Israel and the United States
    Thierry Meyssan – Paris

    For the first time, the world is witnessing a crime against humanity live on television. The United States and Israel, who have long since joined forces, will both be held responsible for the mass massacres in Gaza.

    Everywhere except Europe, Washington’s allies are withdrawing their ambassadors from Tel Aviv. Tomorrow, they will do the same in Washington. Everything is happening as it did when the USSR broke up, and it will end the same way: the American Empire’s very existence is threatened.

    The process that has just begun cannot be stopped.

    • SoftStarLight November 15, 2023 at 1:59 pm #

      I don’t think its the first time a crime against humanity has occurred on live television though. But for sure, the world cares far more about the Palestinians then apparently anyone else. There was just a genocide and mass expulsion of Armenians for example in a place they had lived for who knows how long and no one has really said anything about it. Hundreds of Nigerians get massacred in one fell swoop all the time and you might get a quick blurb and then the pharma commercials come on, etc.

      • Socrates-Detroit November 15, 2023 at 11:53 pm #


        That is @Mitchell’s point. Like it or not, the world is seeing the Israelis slaughter the Palestinians.

        And the Israeli government, and its supporters, are not shy about lying in order to try to justify, rationalize, and minimize the perceived effects, of their actions.

        The “1400 victims” have become “1200”, as the Israeli government has conceded that many of the bodies are those of Hamas fighters.

        Before this concession, we knew from Haaretz that 661 of the victims where uniformed soldiers or police.

        Both officially, and anecdotally, the primary goal on Oct 07 was to “kill Hamas”. That meant, on Oct 07, shoot first, ask questions later. Many of the dead Israelis were killed by Israeli security forces attempting to kill Hamas insurgents.

        The Armenians were not televised or on the internet.

        The Jews of the Holocaust were not.

        The victims of Stalin were not.

        The victims of Mao were not.

        The German civilians of Hamburg, Dresden, etc, were not.

        Ditto the Japanese civilians, including the ones nuked.

        The Khmer Rouge in the “killing fields” were not.

        Connecting the dots, we, certainly MYSELF, must reach the unpleasant conclusion that the removal of the Palestinians has been the plan all along.

        The original Nakba.

        The “pre-emptive strike”, which we used to call “sneak attack” in 1967 by which Israel seized the West Bank and Gaza and the Sinai.

        The acceleration of the illegal settlements after the US bought “peace” with Egypt by giving Egypt billions in aid.

        The constant moving of the goal posts and foot-dragging after Oslo.

        The move to discredit the PLO and Arafat after Oslo by encouraging the creation of an “alternative Palestinian leadership”, which morphed into Hamas.

        The then blockade of Gaza, starting in 2007.

        The non-stop expansion of settlements and squeezing of Palestinians in the West Bank.

        All of this was meant to slowly turn the screws on the native inhabitants of Palestine; to not quite kill them, but make their life unbearable, in the hope they would leave, or frankly DIE on their own.

        And many are dying. But they are also reproducing at a rapid rate.

        So, Oct 07 is a godsend for the Israeli government, because they can dispense with the STATED policy of “to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger” and accelerate the process by bombing and killing as many as they can get away with, with the intent of making the survivors leave.

        Of course, Israel says, “NO! not on purpose. Of course not! It’s to kill Hamas!”

        Whatever. And truth be told, if the Palestinians could do the same, if roles were reversed, they would probably do the same. Of course, we will never know.

        Is it just coincidence that prominent Israeli ministers are asking 3rd countries to take the Palestinians?

        And the US government is going to fully cover Israel, all the way. That’s my prediction.

        Karma is a bitch. It doesn’t bode well. And the God of the Old and New Testament is not going bail out Israel, contrary to what Evangelical “Christians” think the Bible says. How do they know? And God won’t bail out Israel’s big lapdog and enabler, the US either.

        If we stick around long enough, we will see.

        • Socrates-Detroit November 15, 2023 at 11:55 pm #

          Oh, I forgot. At least for me, this phase of the long running war has resulted in my finding a whole bunch of comments from people like

          David Ben Gurion

          Golda Meir

          and others, including not so likeable

          Ariel Sharon

          Benjamin Netenyahu

          where they come out and say “the Palestinians must go, we will get stronger and make them go” and “we control the US”

          Their words, not mine.

        • King of Comedy November 16, 2023 at 1:09 am #

          During the St. Floyd hysteria in 2020, it was not uncommon to hear some hysterics claim there was a genocide going on against the more melanated. Of course that was patently ridiculous.

          This situation is an analog to that. The genocide and slaughter claims are hysterics, nothing more. The Hamas numbers are simply not believable but even if taken at face value, can anyone with a shred of intellectual integrity say that a hefty chunk of that supposed 11,000 is not comprised of combatants? They may be shitty ineffectual combatants when faced with a real army but that does not make them any less legitimate as a target. There is most certainly a war going on and war’s main purpose is killing more of them before they kill more of you, I commend your honesty in acknowledging that the Palis are operating under this same set of rules because that’s the reality. They’re just not very good at it. History is one long record of decisive victories leading to much better outcomes than half-assed police actions. How this one turns out, not a single person on here has the faintest idea; those pretending otherwise are just, well, pretending.

          And the part about the reckoning for the US, who exactly is going to enforce that? The Chinese who import 75% of their oil (the Iranian refineries going down would in very short order shut down China Inc) or the Russians fighting a WW1 style war of attrition in their own back yard? Russia, China and the US will all have their hands full trying to keep the wheels from falling off the cart in a regional sense. Global reckonings were a 20th century thing with very few future prospects.

          • Socrates-Detroit November 16, 2023 at 10:25 am #

            To clarify, karma is a bitch.

            That doesn’t mean that an external power is going defeat America militarily.

            The the US government might defeat itself militarily, by taking some big loss. Or, knowing that it is going down, it might launch a nuclear or other WMD attack on Russia or China, because many NeoCons think the US can get away with it.

            There are many wars where countries miscalculated. That might be one of them.

            The US government is the greatest threat to world peace in the world today, like it or not.

            More likely, America is just going to implode, slowly at first (that is happening now–hence the name, “CFN”), then suddenly. The debasement of money and finance is a major enabler for the social and economic ills that are unraveling the US every day. Easy, cheap money is a huge enabler for the misallocation of resources, and waste and excess, typified by ever-expanding suburbia.

            The root cause of the debasement of money and inflation is the huge Imperial war budget, and ridiculous amounts of foreign aid.

            There are other issues of course. A lack of morality contributes to financial debasement; financial debasement (vs honest work) hastens immorarily. CHicken and egg.

            Many “conservatives” rail against public assistance to the poor (and I agree with much of their railing), but nary a peep about the hundreds of billions to Israel. We just print it, borrow it, or QE it.

            So, yeah, America is going down.

            And the Chinese don’t have to militarily confront the US. Just look around you at all the stuff. Perhaps much of it is trivial and useless, but some of it, like that iPhone or maybe laptop or shoes or clothes is not. Made in China. Imagine that goods stopped coming from China. Maybe some over-the-counter or prescription meds too. Where we will get them? In “a world made by hand?” Please.

            Of course, the Chinese would suffer too. Unlike Russia, China needs trade to keep people employed. China still must live in the dollar system.

            And your comment about some of the 1x,000 dead Palestinians being real combatants, that is males with guns, is very pathetic, and typical of the low regard for Palestinian life that characterizes many Americans.

            Of course, some are combatants. But a fraction. You say Hamas lies. I think, from the pictures I see, they may have undercounted.

            Certainly Israel lies. The counted the killed Hamas earlier. They’ve bombed “safe routes”.

            It is a hot war.

            On THAT score, Hamas did MUCH better, since over half of the victims, the 661 in Haaretz were uniformed, armed Israelis.

            You can get away with your comment, my comment about Hamas would get me fired if it was linked to me.

            And this is how it was in Germany in 1936: say the wrong thing, lose your job, perhaps a visit to the local police station. At least we are not at the police station phase yet.

          • Socrates-Detroit November 16, 2023 at 10:32 am #

            How this turns out, I predict the Palestinians will be removed from Gaza and the West Bank in their entirety in the next 18-24 months.

            Yes, China has many challenges internally. And as you say, they are more dependent on Persian Gulf Oil than the US.

            Just my opinion, but I think that’s a big reason the brokered a “detente” between Iran and Saudi.

            Before that, Iran’s “in case of emergency, break glass” strategy would, logically, be to attack and try to destroy Saudi and other Gulf State oil facilities.

            Now, that’s really not an option for them. And that’s why, unless directly provoked, I don’t see Iran causing any mischief.

            The US is illegally occupying Syria, so US troops are targets. Why are they there? To be a trip wire.

            So we will see.

            Personally, I do NOT underestimate the lengths the US will go to, to cover and protect for Israel, consequences be damned.

            So, we will watch the Palestinians get slaughtered, with no real help, and see what happens.

          • King of Comedy November 16, 2023 at 11:45 am #

            Re: comments and the dangers thereof, I’m not so sure about your assertion. You are much more aligned with the progressive “oppressor/oppressed” bullshit that dominates so many aspects of Weimar America. (It’s a topic for another day but being philosophically aligned with asshats like the Squad, aka Dumb, Dumber, More Dumber, and Dumbest, would force me at least to take a hard look at my position). My comment about the “reckoning with race” that the country supposedly underwent in 2020 is particularly apt in that regard. The Palis are the ME versions of those upstanding citizens always in the process of “turning their life around” who are offed by the police. Never to blame for terrible life choices, always the perpetual victim buffeted by the cruelties and vicissitudes of the oppressor. I don’t know, maybe you subscribe to progressive dogma but if not, you sound perilously close to being progressive-adjacent, a philosophy soon to meet the dustpan of history.

            Re: the US, I think it’s pretty clear the status-quo is on borrowed time. Whether it’s a complete implosion or some Le Chatlier reversion to the mean is open to debate but the US going down will be not so much the ripple in the pond as the tidal wave from an asteroid. China’s implosion would almost certainly follow. Russia for all the flogging found on the fanboy realms of the internet is really at best a regional power (I think they’ll handle the Ukraine situation just fine but that falls under the heading of damning with faint praise). Russia will muddle on as it has always done but their sphere of influence will be Europe and that’s about it. India, who knows? They have huge problems but maybe they’re the last man standing when all this shakes out.

            Re: combatants, it seems implausible that Israel went into Gaza to kill women and children as opposed to killing “males with guns” and if some women and children get in the way, then oh well. The latter sucks but it’s always been the way of war. Up until maybe 1949 (and really only in a window dressing sense after that), no one gave a damn if some civilians bought it in a conflict. You’re obviously buying in to the ethnic cleansing angle (another progressive shibboleth btw) while I obviously am not. If you are right and I am wrong then I will at that time be on your “side”. I just don’t do hysterics and almost everything coming from the “genocide” crowd is hysterics at this point (the supposed hospital attack a month ago was textbook bed wetting and showed anyone with a rudimentary level of objectivity the overt propaganda nature of this conflict).

          • Rowdypiglet November 16, 2023 at 12:34 pm #

            “Up until maybe 1949 (and really only in a window dressing sense after that), no one gave a damn if some civilians bought it in a conflict.”

            @King of Comedy, I’ve been pondering this very thing lately. And, as you pointed out, the whole point of war is to kill more of them than they kill of you. It’s cruel and I don’t endorse it, but neither do I endorse the pretense that it’s really something else.

            There’s some connection between this pretense of shock (children are killed! It’s unbearable! I never knew!) and other attitudes we’ve seen in recent years coming from, and cultivated by, the left. I would sum it up as a self-serving, disingenuous moral outrage directed toward reality.

            I don’t have what it takes to sort this out, but my mental picture is of a big, boiling pot of outrage, much of it fake or ridiculous, into which leftists have dumped all their causes. In that pot, one can find the absurd posturing over the nastiness of war as well as the preposterous warnings now attached to films from the 1960s where we might be exposed to the sight of people SMOKING. The horror! Somehow, the more they toss into this pot, the more they feel justified in their idiotic tantrums.

          • King of Comedy November 16, 2023 at 1:14 pm #

            It’s just simple progressivism (Marxism). Victimhood is currency but only acceptably-defined Victimhood. For instance, to progressives, the “whiteness” of Jews supersedes their Victimhood so they fall into the oppressor bucket.

            Progressivism is a cancer and the only way to deal with cancer is to kill it before it kills you.

          • Paula D November 16, 2023 at 8:41 pm #

            I don’t think it’s true that civilian causalities are a fact of war.

            I saw a chart somewhere, but couldn’t find it in a cursory search, that showed that civilian casualties have increased in the wars of the 20th century. Wars used to be fought between armies, and most casualties were soldiers, but that has changed since WW2, especially in American wars.

            It still blows my mind that people completely ignore the ongoing conflict in Ukraine, when they confidently proclaim that “It is totally normal to bomb civilians”.

            WTF?? That just shows the power of the media, imo.

            People know that civilians are being bombed in Gaza because the media focuses on it.

            People here may know that Russia is fighting soldier to soldier, but they forget that fact when they discuss the current propaganda.

          • King of Comedy November 17, 2023 at 12:13 am #

            The Three Kingdoms War in China in the 3rd century is estimated to have resulted in the deaths of 35,000,000. The Mongol invasions in the 13th century killed another 40,000,000. That’s just two of the endless wars throughout human history and 75,000,000 deaths, probably 95% non-combatants. Civilians have always been in the crosshairs.

          • benr November 17, 2023 at 9:10 am #

            As some are posting about wars are killing more civilians now…since when?
            We bombed Dresden into Rubble.
            We turned Hiroshima into a smoking pit the same with Nagasaki.
            Anyone ever heard of the rape of Nanking by the Japanese?

            Ever hear what the Turks did to the Greeks or the Armenians?

            Australians and Aboriginals?

            The Mayans, Incas, Aztecs verses the Spanish?

            Apache’s verses anyone that they decided to go after.

            English and the Irish and Scottish they invented concentration camps.

            How about that little bush war called the third Punic war where an entire city was rubbelized and the fields ordered salted by the Roman general Scipio Aemilianus?

            Zulus verses every other tribe in what is now South Africa Shaka mowed them down everyone he could find and murdered entire villages and tribes.

            Throughout mankind’s history we see civilian populations being put to the sword villages and cities burned or populations enslaved nothing new under the sun.

            There was a brief period where armies lined up in orderly rows and traded pot shots at each other.

        • Jarek November 16, 2023 at 2:09 am #

          Great interview by Tucker of Candace Owen. Tucker said, I can understand why donors pulled out of places like Harvard. You can support anyone you want to. But where were you during the last decade when they were teaching White genocide? Are you in favor of that? If not, why did you fund it? Candace agreed completely. She sees it now even at the high school level in some places.

          And yes, they are in favor of White genocide as per the Kalergi plan. And as per their treatment of the Russian people when they had power.

          • SoftStarLight November 16, 2023 at 3:55 am #

            Have you heard about some of Elon’s recent comments about how the ADL essentially promotes anti-white racism. He sprinkled anti-Asian racism in there too for good measure but he did specifically call out their anti-white racism. It seems like a big narrative shift is underway.

          • Jarek November 16, 2023 at 1:53 pm #

            Yes, or they’re just relieving the built up pressure a bit. They still want Whites to fight for them but young White men aren’t enlisting, sickened by what the United States has become.

            They actually seem serious about punishing the Black murderers in Las Vegas. A miracle.

        • SoftStarLight November 16, 2023 at 3:48 am #

          I hear you. I would prefer America not be involved at all. Israel says they don’t need our support so that should be perfect reason enough for us not be involved. But it would seem too many of our ruling class (and theirs) are making bank on the conflict. So it will continue. It is also very angering that Israeli politicians are saying that America should take in the Palestinians. All the more reason we shouldn’t be over there.

          • Socrates-Detroit November 16, 2023 at 10:49 am #

            Absolutely! America should not be involved. Israel is a rich country–they can give the US a couple billion a year.

            There’s probably oil or natural gas near Gaza, one more reason for Israel to remove the Palestinians, BTW.

    • Paula D November 16, 2023 at 8:09 pm #

      The massacre of the Vietnamese was shown on live TV, but it was America doing the massacre, so the “international community” didn’t issue UN condemnations, or hold mass rallies, or hyperventilate constantly about the goings on.

      The American public was not happy, though, so our ruling overlords no longer show their massacres on TV.

      There was this, though. I guess it doesn’t count, because, you know…….American.


      • benr November 17, 2023 at 9:21 am #

        Well considering the Vietnamese (Vietcong) America was fighting was not part of an organized countries military.
        So, in essence every Vietcong fighter killed was in fact a civilian and the way the fought at times was in fact a massacre.
        Hundreds charging machine gun nests hopped up on drugs and Marxists lies. Or setting booby traps and other assorted acts of hit and run tactics.
        This while hiding right in plain sight among the rest of the civilian population using them as shields.
        Hiding weapons, explosives, and digging tunnels.
        Anyone that was found to aid Americans faced dire consequences.

        Now why does this all sound so familiar….Oh just like Israel is dealing with.
        You wonder why Jarek calls you a Marxist just read you sympathetic posts regarding the Marxist struggles and thankfully ultimate failures to take over the world.