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     Thus, the farcical pageant, in a land of fake everything, of America’s fake government attempting to rescue itself from the web of lies and subterfuge it so cleverly spun for itself to keep all its sundry rackets going. For instance: the preposterous idea that “Joe Biden” is running for reelection. Does anybody over age seven, even in Beverly Hills, believe this whopper? I doubt it. But the absurd meme is repeated endlessly in the relic newspapers and floundering cable news channels, and for one reason: elite members in the party behind all this mischief — that is, the Democratic Party of Chaos — are desperate to avoid prosecution for things like seditious conspiracy to defraud the electorate, bribery, and treason.

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     The blob’s weakness and idiocy are clearly on display in the four court cases against Mr. Trump, which look like a cartoon of thieves throwing stuff out of a hijacked furniture truck at the cars in pursuit behind them. There’s DA Alvin Bragg’s joke case in Manhattan around the dead-on-arrival Stormy Daniels business. End-of-story, as T0ny Soprano always liked to say. New York’s AG, Letitia James, vowed to get Mr. Trump on something, anything, while electioneering, and delivered a bullshit case to Judge Arthur Engoron that is sure to get tossed on appeal — and will eventually get both Ms. James and the Judge disbarred (and possibly prosecuted) for their trouble. There’s Fulton County (GA) DA Fani Willis’s laughable RICO rap against Trump, Giuliani, et al., for complaining about the obviously janky ballot-counting activity there in 2020.

    And then, there are US AG Merrick Garland’s two cases against the former president. The DC case was brought under Special Counsel Jack Smith, claiming that Mr. Trump somehow led an “insurrection” at the US Capitol on 1/6/21. This turkey was rehearsed in earlier House J-6 Committee hearings, so shabbily staged that Chairman Bennie Thompson (D-MS) arranged to have all the evidence destroyed (including witness deposition transcripts) as soon as the hearings wrapped. Mr. Trump’s defense is probably immaterial in Judge Tanya Chutkan’s DC courtroom. But one of the case’s main predicates, the law against “obstructing official proceedings,” is about to be adjudicated in the US Supreme Court involving convicted J-6 defendants. If the court tosses it, Jack Smith’s case goes out the window too. If not, and Mr. Trump is successfully railroaded by Judge Chutkan, you can be sure the appeal will be expedited to SCOTUS and die there. If there even is a trial before the election of 2024. In any case, Mr. Trump will still be on the ballot next November.

      The second Garland / Jack Smith case is the most interesting. That would be the Mar-a-Lago documents case. According to the reporter who styles himself as “Sundance” at The Last Refuge news site, the purpose of the August 2022 Mar-a-Lago raid was not to seek classified documents at issue in a dispute between the former president and the National Archives — as the public has been given to understand by the blob’s news media. The actual purpose was to find a 10-inch-thick dossier of documents collected over many months by Mr. Trump’s deputies to be used in future prosecutions of DOJ, FBI, and other officials and private persons (including Hillary Clinton, the DNC, the DNC’s law firm Perkins Coie), who were implicated in the Russia collusion hoax, especially after the failure of Special Counsel John Durham to even depose many of these parties and persons.

     There were apparently many copies made of Mr. Trump’s dossier, and distributed among anti-blobsters, but these were all heavily redacted — names were all blacked out. The binder at Mar-a-Lago was unredacted and this was what the FBI was after in the August 2022 raid. Is there any chance by now that the FBI hasn’t disposed of 10,000 emails and documents that were in its possession pertaining to the Russia hoax and other crimes? Do you suppose that the unredacted Trump dossier was the only copy? I wouldn’t. So far, Mr. Trump and his lawyers have not mentioned this. Why wouldn’t they play this hand close to the chest? Will it be consequential in the long and tortured course of things? What do you think?


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720 Responses to “In the Game of Strip Poker, Someone Ends Up Naked”

  1. devnickle December 18, 2023 at 9:56 am #

    I love how the leftist meatheads always spew something about “saving our Democracy.”
    Someone forgot to tell them Democracy is mob rule.
    We are a Representative Constitutional Republic.
    Everyone gets a say. (Or is supposed to?)

    • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 10:13 am #

      In the case of The Meathead, it has already been established that he works with an organization with CIA ties. I think it was Mike Benz who uncovered this.

      Why would he be so virulently anti-Trump, and why would a man in his position feel the need to work with or for the CIA in any capacity?

      Could it be they have something on him?

      Notice that the fiercest Trump critics never point to something he’s actually done?

      • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 10:27 am #

        You are right, always about his personality, never his accomplishments.

        Maybe because he actually wants to do something about the cesspool we are mired in.

        • ZrCrypDiK December 18, 2023 at 10:34 am #

          Yeah, that 1 accomplishment – $3 trillion$ tax break early 2017 – 2.86 trillion dollars that went to multi-millionaires/billionaires and monopolistic/oligopolistic corporations in perpetuity, with a mere $14 billion temporarily, for the masses. The Duopoly is a fine tuned machine – there’s a reason the DNC wasn’t having any part of that Bernie Sanders back in 2016/2020…

          • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 12:25 pm #

            Tax breaks in themselves aren’t necessarily a bad thing, but you have to make up for them someplace.

            He didn’t start any new wars, he got us out of that Paris Accord fraud/ripoff.

            None of us understood at the time just how big his unwillingness to send Americans to die overseas was.

          • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 12:39 pm #

            Where did that big reduction in corporate taxes go, by the way?

            Stockholders?

            And the start of the return of manufacturing to America, which reversed when Biden got in.

          • Uncle Bob December 18, 2023 at 9:46 pm #

            Trump stupidly told the GOP Establishment he’d sign any tax cut they came up with, so they dutifully produced a bill under Paul Ryan that made their fat cat friends happy while fucking over Middle America. Once they did that, Ryan and close to 100 of his friends bailed out, citing “family needs” and “not wanting to lose chairmanships” as their reasons. The real reason, of course, was the Establishment wanted to nut Trump for taking over their party, and if that meant handing the government to lunatics and socialists to teach Trump and the Republican base a lesson, so be it.

            I realize Trump can be arrogant, foolhardy, and an asshole. And I also realize it’s possible he’s working in concert with the globalists who are out to destroy America and return us all to serfdom. But in a contest between Trump and the Paul Ryan’s, Mitch McConnells, Bushes, Willard ‘The Rat” Romneys, Nikky Haleys, and the rest of the Establishment, you’ve kinda gotta side with Trump, don’t you? Either way, we’re fucked (barring divine intervention). So do we die on our feet, or live on our knees, as FDR put it during WW2?

          • ZrCrypDiK December 21, 2023 at 6:20 pm #

            Yeah, we debt peons actually got a temporary $140 billion tax break (not $14 billion – my bad) – remember that extra $50-200 from the IRS for about 2-3 years?!…

            Uncle Bob’s commentary was quite to the point – it almost reminded me of a William F Buckley analysis from way back in the day… I saw a video of Paul Ryan recently ripping Trump to shreds, calling him an authoritarian/autocrat/dictator – too little, too late, Paulie.

          • ZrCrypDiK December 22, 2023 at 8:52 am #

            “And the start of the return of manufacturing to America, which reversed when Biden got in.”

            dood, the only person supporting the working class/unions since FDR has been Biden. Say what you will. *DEF* not Clinton or Obama.

      • abbybwood December 18, 2023 at 3:08 pm #

        And now Meathead is hawking his JFK documentary saying he KNOWS there were four shooters.

        • Billingsgate December 19, 2023 at 10:28 am #

          The only trouble RFK, Jr., will make for the Dems is by siphoning off enough votes from the yet to be named Dem candidate to help Trump retake the WH. Then, who knows?, RFK, Jr., may join Trump’s Administration to oversee vaccine issues as Trump almost tapped him to do before Fauci elbowed his way in.

    • Cankerpuss December 18, 2023 at 10:25 am #

      Pfft. A Constitutional Republic? That only applies when the Constitution is actually the law of the land. Our Constitution is nothing but Charmin butt fodder to these fuckers we call “leaders.”

      We aren’t a Democracy as our elections are a sham.

      We aren’t a Constitutional Republic as our Constitution is worthless.

      We aren’t a Republic as the States are held hostage to Federal mandates.

      So what the hell are we? Oligarchy? Corporatocracy? Dictatorship?

      I don’t watch tee vee much anymore but few times I do and I catch one of the fuckers in Washington talk about preserving our “democracy” I want to hurl. They spout their lies like truths and nobody there is to correct them on it.

      • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 10:31 am #

        We aren’t a democracy as our elections are a sham.

        Absolutely, and without public control of the government, we are a totalitarian state. Then take away the power of Congress.already happening, and it becomes a dictatorship.

        People are looking at the wrong party to find sources of dictatorship. The uniparty is a purely Left wing Deep State creation with a bunch of cowardly RINOs kow-towing.

        • abbybwood December 18, 2023 at 3:12 pm #

          Both parties are privately owned. Probably corporations if you dive deep into their books. Which could be one reason the FBI did not seize the DNC server and instead allowed the DNC to let Crowdstrike examine it.

      • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 12:18 pm #

        We’re not a Democracy, we never were, and that’s a good thing. The Founders loathed Democracy or Mob rule. We were supposed to have a Government of Laws, not men. A poll was done in Nice Land, the Upper Midwest. The sheeple were willing to give up their rights as enshrined in the Bill of Rights if it would make other people happy. Of course they didn’t frame the questions as “giving up the Bill of Rights”. Thus the sheeple were fooled. People like that shouldn’t be voting. That’s how we lost the Republic, you know.

        • DC Jones December 18, 2023 at 11:39 pm #

          The Republic was lost when Americans refused to bare arms all the time and Police Forces were developed. We the people have lost the right for revenge. The Pashtuns in Afghanistan are still a tribal culture and have been around for a couple of thousand years and will probably still practice Pashtunwali long after America is gone.

          • Jarek December 19, 2023 at 12:21 am #

            You have a point there. How to be civilized without losing manhood?

            With Jones I’m able to jump right into Sparta, with Mothers saying, “Come back with your shield or on it.” And later Rome which took the elite warrior training and gave it to the masses. And then of course to National Socialist Germany – which took much of the best from the United States.

            Thus William James’ “MEOW” (Moral Equivalent of War) is answer by a ferocious roar or yowl of feline war.

            But pacifists and women could also do a couple of years of service (or early motherhood), thus earning their place in society.

            But yes, Jones. Certainly if the State fails us in all regards, these rights revert to the individual.

      • Socrates-Detroit December 18, 2023 at 12:18 pm #

        The US is an iron “Cartel Capitalism Oligarchy” iron hand, under a velvet glove which is the veneer of a constitutional republic.

        Some say this was inevitable as life became more modern and advanced.

        The USSR was a one-party state. We have a two-party duopoly. Both parties are controlled by big capital.

        It’s like a college or NFL rivalry for the powerful–no matter which team wins, they both keep their super privileged status.

        And the powerful who control them have very globalist views–the want it ALL.

        And they largely control the narrative, unless one is willing to look beyond the standard fare of the educational system, the TV networks, and cable news.

        That’s why Germany was “bad” in WW1–because big capital in Britain, which was affiliated with big capital in the US, wanted Germany brought down.

        “Great Britain” had subjugated half the world–Africa, India, Australia, Canada, in 1913, but Germany was bad!

        Thanks to harnessing science first, the “West” had a good run from 15xx or 16xx to about 201x. The “West” was the world’s power center, and the globalists sought to control the West.

        The West did, however, have internecine wars. Spain vs Britain. Britain vs. France. France vs all. Britain & friends vs Germany. At the eastern end of Europe, semi-European Russia was involved too, as it defeated “Western” Poland first and then “Western” Sweden and became a “player”.

        I’ve read many of the above European wars were related to debt. In those days, “money” was hard–gold or perhaps land. When the king or prince did not pay his debts and interest, his financiers bankrolled other countries, which then invaded the delinquent, and used the spoils to pay the delinquent’s debts and the new debts the winners incurred. Very lucrative for the money-lenders.

        It was quite profitable to the Rothschilds, for example, who had “family branches” in several European capitals…. Eventually, their ilk came to the US, and gave us the Federal Reserve Act and Fed Income Tax….

        And that’s who runs things here, for their benefit–big capital made up of people we don’t know, who pull strings from behind the scenes–unless they feel compelled to reveal themselves to the public at large, like Bill Ackman, billionaire hedge fund manager.

        After two world wars and a cold war, the “West”, the nations that use the Latin alphabet, was and is finally united. A big step toward one-world government.

        We have the veneer of different nations still but look at their policies on COVID; Ukraine; Palestine/Israel. They are all essentially the same. ALL of these countries, from Spain to Germany to the US, all have the same interests in these situations..really?

        Of course, if there is difference, one opinion matters more–the US, and most nations fall in line. The only one that’s standing up for itself is Hungary, regarding Ukraine, and now maybe Slovakia. The embargo on Russia is killing Europe economically….

        Today Russia is the outlier–even more so than Germany was in 1939. Germany was “western”. Russia is not–they use the Cyrillic alphabet. And worse, they are a nominally Christian country.

        (Not like western Christianity either, which is bad enough. No, Orthodox Christians, which the West has always disliked or hated).

        Communism may have been bad for the peoples of the USSR, but the Soviets got more support than most people realize from the West, from the super rich of their day like Bernard Baruch and Armand Hammer (Mr. Baking Soda and Occidental Oil), Henry Ford, and the US government). That’s why it did not implode sooner.

        When the USSR could no longer service its foreign debts (which means the West was no longer willing to indulge the Soviets), it imploded, relatively peacefully. Miraculously, Russia survived the economic and social catastrophe that ensued (wrenching change is hard, even if the dying system is f–ed up) and now thrives, independent of the dollar-denominated system.

        This is the Russians’ real sin, and why the US precipitated a proxy war in Ukraine–in a lame attempt to “break up Russia”, so that the “US” (really the globalists who control the US government) can direct Russia, have access to Russian resources, and encircle China–in case China doesn’t comport to globalist views.

        The USA government and military today are the enforcement arm of the globalists.

        The US no longer has the system it had from 1776 to 1861, or even 1913, by which time big capital had taken over (the Income Tax and Federal Reserve are “big capital” ideas).

        The big question is China. China may have the biggest economy, but how beholden is it to the Western finance? Unlike Russia, China needs trade in the general, and the dollar today.

        But the Chinese are working on it. They are working hard to try to reduce their dependence on the US in particular and the West in general. There are lots of needs in the Global South, and Chinese factories can tend to them… win/win.

        Russia, USA, China… kind of a rock, scissors, paper scheme.

        The US golden era (for those who didn’t lose their lives, limbs, or brains in Vietnam or Korea) was 1946-73. For many reasons, the financial interests of big capital/the globalists and American everyman aligned during that period.

        However, that’s also the period where public trust in the US was shattered by civil rights/race relations and Vietnam.

        After 1973, Americans were more divided, and the summer of prosperity was mostly over for many, at the same time when America’s ethnic make-up changed from mostly white (various types) and black to “various”.

        All this stuff plays a role in “what happened to our constitution”. But the “powers that be” are behind much of this, in my opinion. And that doesn’t bode well for average Americans, and CFNers who are less than “fully prepped” preppers…

      • devnickle December 18, 2023 at 3:12 pm #

        Fuckers is right. I’d like to see them strung-up on the Tee Vee. Something actually worth watching.

    • hortonz December 18, 2023 at 11:32 am #

      Why is Israel the only Western nation that’s not afraid to expose what the DEI mafia that elected Old Joe and his gang of crooks tries so hard to censor or obfuscate? https://nationalpost.com/news/world/israel-middle-east/hamas-money

      • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 11:48 am #

        How do you get to post a link without your post disappearing?

        While we are on the topic of Gaza, there’s an article by Emma Green in the New Yorker, about a student group that is politicizing a generation on Palestine.

        Steve McGuire has a thread on X where he analyzes the article:

        “The idea is to appeal to people who know nothing.”

        In this New Yorker piece on Students for Justice in Palestine, a member of the national steering committee says their model is to attract ignorant kids and indoctrinate them into Marxism

        He highlights this part:

        “S.J.P. is oriented in a special way. The idea is to appeal to people who know nothing.” Chapters start “small, with more tangible, visible elements of the Palestinian struggle,” and link those to prominent historical episodes elsewhere, such as apartheid in South Africa or the oppression of Native Americans in the U.S. “We go from apartheid to understanding what settler colonialism means. And then, from settler colonialism, we move to imperialism. And then, for example, what does Marxism have to do with Palestine?” After just one year of involvement with S.J.P., he said, “I really had a pretty solid grasp of what Palestinian liberation meant, and how interconnected it was to all the other struggles we see on the streets.”

        People who know nothing are easy to indoctrinate with just a few bumper sticker slogans. Because they themselves were totally ignorant, they believe that so is everyone else who hasn’t learned the bumper sticker slogans, and that makes them special, because now they know more than they think you do.

        • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 12:20 pm #

          Why don’t you care about the sufferings of the Palestinians? Marxism is supposed to care about the downtrodden. Islander cares, but you and Paula don’t. Why?

          • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 12:34 pm #

            Who says I don’t care about suffering?

            Didn’t I care deeply about the small children being abused by their own parents who allowed them to be forced to wear a dirty rag on their face?

            Didn’t I care about the ravers who were just out to have a fun time, while others dismissed their suffering because they must have known they were near a border?

            People who rant against the use of “innocent” when talking about civilians from one side of a battleground and not the other, don’t really care about suffering.

          • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

            You don’t seem to care about their suffering. You didn’t mention the Palestinians at all, did you. Why?

          • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 2:23 pm #

            You didn’t mention Yemen. Why?

            You didn’t mention Ukraine. Why?

            Do you see where I’m going with this?

          • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 2:48 pm #

            Soon we’re all going to care about Yemen.

            The US is cranking up to attack it. That’ll show ’em!

            Best to go after small and defenseless countries. It makes those with small penises proud to destroy small countries.

            Stay tuned for the usual suspects to rant and rave about those damn Yemenis, and how they need to be taught a lesson.

          • devnickle December 18, 2023 at 3:29 pm #

            Nobody likes war or suffering, but when you openly attack your neighbor like savages, you get what you get.
            Polls say 70% in Gaza approve of Hamas, a terrorist organization. There again, you get what you get.

          • Jarek December 19, 2023 at 12:23 am #

            Beryl, are you Jewish? That would explain it. I assume Paula’s Russian Communism explains her loyalty to the Jews. Most of the revolutionaries were ethnic Jews after all.

          • Socrates-Detroit December 19, 2023 at 2:51 pm #

            @devnickle Are you willing to acknowledge that that the Irgun and Stern Gang were also terrorists?

            Menachem Begin was a terrorist too, was he not?

        • Soul Forensics December 18, 2023 at 2:49 pm #

          “The idea is to appeal to people who know nothing.”

          They’ll have a huge potential audience.

          • tuco22 December 18, 2023 at 3:41 pm #

            Paula D: Do the Yemenis have a flag?

          • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 7:36 pm #

            I looked it up, tuco. Apparently they do, but more inflammatory is the slogan of the Ansarallah government, at least according to Wikipedia, so take it with a grain of salt.

            “God Is the Greatest, Death to America, Death to Israel, A Curse Upon the Jews, Victory to Islam”

            Whooee! That’s going to get Americans in a murderous uproar!

            But we’ve been backing the Saudis in attacking Yemen for years, and I’ve never heard that before. That seems odd.

            I don’t know how to check when Wikipedia was last edited, but that seems relevant here.

          • Islander December 18, 2023 at 8:47 pm #

            Go, Houthis!

            They are rockin’ the boat big-time.

            Love their use of scare quos around “Israel.”

            Kinda like “Biden.”

      • abbybwood December 18, 2023 at 3:25 pm #

        Israel has been the 51st state since 1948, with nukes! Only they have all 100 Senators and not just the allotted two.

        • Socrates-Detroit December 18, 2023 at 4:01 pm #

          @abbywood Well said–and brief (unlike me), thank YOU!

      • Socrates-Detroit December 18, 2023 at 4:01 pm #

        @Beryl Usually, you leave out the start of the URL (the https or www of the website)

        But who knows.

        The article itself probably has some kernels of truth, to go along with exaggerations.

        Like 95% of media article about Gaza, it adeptly paints out pre-Oct 07 Israeli abuses; it paints out the role of several Israeli Governments in “incubating” Hamas, in their effort to divide the Palestinians and weaken the Palestinian Authority, to facilitate foot-dragging on the (mythical) two-state solution.

        Here is how you insert an article–and one that is objective and truthful for that matter

        youtube.com/watch?v=3EtNFXL_ykg

        “How Israelis live so easily with occupation”

        Of course, most Israelis in power don’t see things like Gideon Levy (an Israeli reporter who served in the IDF)

        This is more their style, and a fitting rebuttal to the distorted Canadian newspaper article

        news.antiwar.com/2023/12/17/israeli-town-council-head-says-israel-should-make-gaza-look-like-auschwitz/

    • abbybwood December 18, 2023 at 2:58 pm #

      I fear that they already have the plans drawn up to “JFK” or “Paul Wellstone” Trump.

      Desperate people…..

      • tuco22 December 18, 2023 at 3:42 pm #

        Well, they probably do. Look at what they did to him while he was in office and now what they’ve been doing to him out of office to make sure he can never again hold office. So, yeah, I’m sure they already have plans.

  2. SpeedyBB December 18, 2023 at 10:03 am #

    The brutal winter feared by the Europeans in 2022 – having been mysteriously deprived of cheap Russian gas – looks to be settling in already. Record snowpacks in the Alps and nearly -60 degrees Celsius in Siberia. Early too for such weather.

    We are told that the extreme cold is connected to a negative Arctic Oscillation (AO) which sweeps winter from the North Pole southward, down across the British Isles to Southern and Central Europe. Very often this frigid jetstream cavorts over Eastern Europe and Asia, with a neutral phase and even a thaw in Europe. Maybe, maybe not.

    This month Germany has recorded their largest snowstorms since March 2006 – among the greatest of any on record. How are the Germans going to stay warm without the nice cheap Russian gas? Will the politicians provide enough hot air to a shivering electorate to avoid frostbite?

    Heavy snow forecast with a winter weather advisory covering 13 States in the USA, as tornadoes are ripping through Tennessee – hey you righteous Christians aren’t praying hard enough! Get down on those knees and pray harder!

    En fin: relax… We are but visitors to this world.

    • OG December 18, 2023 at 10:23 am #

      hey you righteous Christians aren’t praying hard enough! Get down on those knees and pray harder!

      You just don’t get it, do ya?

      Christianity is not about going to see a guy who can fix a horse race for you.

      This realm’s time is short. We do not pray to make this realm, ruled by Satan, last longer. Rather, we rejoice as His Word is fulfilled and pray for forgiveness for our sins.

      • Cankerpuss December 18, 2023 at 10:30 am #

        “This realm’s time is short.”

        I sure hope you are right. I’ve lived a half a century in this world and the longer I live in it the more I look forward to leaving it behind. I hope there is something better once I finally have the opportunity to kiss this mess of a world goodbye.

        I guess that would be called faith?

        Seriously, all the bullshit that people chase after today, you know, the big homes they can’t possibly need, the fancy clothes, the electronic gadgets, the expensive cars, temporary fame and the accumulation of more and more money, well, these things just don’t mean much to me. Outside of my family and the few close friends I have, there isn’t much keeping me here. When my time comes I will gladly submit and say goodbye to this world with a big middle finger and a smile on my face.

        • Nigel Tufnel December 18, 2023 at 11:51 am #

          @Canker- those untethered to this world and free of attachment make the best warriors. Your job now is to work toward finding what You can do. Volunteer work is my own personal anti-depressant… at local animal shelter, food bank, etc.

          • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2023 at 12:07 pm #

            “…those untethered to this world and free of attachment make the best warriors.” ~ Nigel Tufnel

            Yes, Nigel, exactly. Hoka Hey! It’s a good day to die.

          • messianicdruid December 18, 2023 at 2:55 pm #

            Dieing for your beliefs is fine but those who believe they have the right [ responsibility? ] to murder, rape and kidnap [ lock up/oppress ] innocents should die for theirs, IMHO.

      • BackRowHeckler December 18, 2023 at 10:31 am #

        Nicely put, OG.

        One wonders why Speedy found it necessary to knock Chtistians in a post about energy & weather events?

        • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 12:22 pm #

          The demons can’t help themselves.

        • SpeedyBB December 18, 2023 at 4:24 pm #

          Just took a swipe at the smug & self-righteous, always happy to gloat the suffering of the wicked.

          Desert Death Cults are killing the biosphere, twisting civilization (such as it is) and delivering nothing in terms of comfort and compatibility.

          The Japanese, ever practical, had a way of dealing with the Jesuit invaders who attempted to undermine their already-fossilized feudalized, hermetic culture, with “…the cross and the sword…”:

          “You follow the man who was crucified for what he preached, correct? And you preach the same doctrine. So let us crucify you as well.”

          And they did.

          Unlike the Philippines, where Catholicism took a ferocious hold and never let go, Japan managed to slough off the alien creed: only about 1% profess Christianity.

          China too was happy to take what they could from the insidious missionaries and shuck off the rest.

          Strangely enough, the evangelicals have managed to suck in an astonishing number of Koreans, forsaking their [not-very-fervent] native Buddhism: I read that 20% have gone over.

          • Jarek December 19, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

            The “Roman” outlook was to blame. The natives could not be allowed to make offerings to the Emperor because that was idolatry as it was in Ancient Rome. So they HAD to rebel and get slaughtered.

            The Jesuits themselves imported the Church not to employ the “Roman” ethos in China. The average Chinaman did not see the Emperor as an incarnation of the Tao or descended from the gods. But neither did the average Roman. If it was unnecessary now, it had also been unnecessary then. Burning a pinch of incense to the Emperor was just their way of asserting loyalty – much like our oaths.

            The Japanese Catholics hung on for centuries underground. Impressive faith.

            The Japanese authorities made the Dutch traders trample crucifixes as they came ashore. They happily complied, their real God being mammon.

      • MX Vet 57 December 18, 2023 at 11:23 am #

        Yes, OG, as previously noted…nicely put.

      • tuco22 December 18, 2023 at 3:45 pm #

        Judgment has already been rendered on this country, beginning with the “leadership” with which we are saddled, the extremes of weather, crop failures, etc. It begins this way and gradually gets worse over time the longer a nation doesn’t repent. And I don’t see this country repenting, ever, of anything.

    • BackRowHeckler December 18, 2023 at 10:27 am #

      Germany has gone balls in for the ‘Transition to Renewables,’ something that earned them much praise & accolades at the recent Climate Change conference in Dubai. Germany is held up as an example for the rest of the industrialized West to live up to.

      • OG December 18, 2023 at 10:34 am #

        Global Depop has just shifted into 2nd gear. A series of Covid jabs is expected to kill most in 3-5 years. The very first jabs started in December 2020.

        • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2023 at 11:10 am #

          Yes, the CDC says the vaccinated are not immune to the latest Covid variant, JN.1. It makes no mention of the fact that their immune systems have been disabled and degraded due to being vaccinated.

          • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 1:22 pm #

            Info coming out now is showing the disabling of the immune system that Covid can do. Actual reports.

          • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 1:25 pm #

            Also, this is an example of how hi tech medicine can pull the wool over the publics eyes. Including Trump.

            No one can challenge them in the eyes of the lemmings. It is an example of where the Feds do not protect the public any more.

        • gustafson.robert.22 December 18, 2023 at 11:17 am #

          This is one of those sneaky, counterintuitive depopulation programs during which the population actually increases, I suppose.

          • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 11:40 am #

            That’s to throw everyone off, doncha know.

            If we climb past 9 billion, no one will notice that we were all killed off.

            Very, very sneaky.

          • gustafson.robert.22 December 18, 2023 at 11:59 am #

            Hahaha. Diabolical genius.

          • Soul Forensics December 18, 2023 at 3:02 pm #

            “This is one of those sneaky, counterintuitive depopulation programs during which the population actually increases, I suppose.” — Gus

            Yes, just like Israel’s “genocide” caused Gaza’s pop to grow from 63,000 at Israel’s inception, to 778,000 today.

            Math is hard, it seems.

            OG’s “most will die in 3-5 years” is just his Rapture wet dream fantasy, God scooping OG up in His loving arms while those around him roast forever.

        • malthuss December 18, 2023 at 11:20 am #

          says who? why 3-5 years?

          I do not dispute the myocarditis etc.

        • loosethedogs December 18, 2023 at 11:31 am #

          OG: All one needs to do is follow Pfizer’s purchases of specific drug manufacturers. The first was a heart (myocarditis, etc) drug manufacture and just now (12/14/2023) a company that makes oncology (cancer) related drugs for $43 billion. As always, follow the money if want to scry the future….

          • RD3 December 18, 2023 at 1:08 pm #

            We’ve got the cure. Hell, we made the disease…

    • richsob December 18, 2023 at 11:14 am #

      Yeah, it always makes you look smarter (or whatever) if you include a quick shot at Christians in your comments. Is that supposed to be funny or profound or something else? Seriously, you need some new material.

      • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 11:42 am #

        It was obviously a joke.

      • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 12:25 pm #

        Were you joking when you compared transexualism to Christianity?

        • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 2:51 pm #

          The Woke Totalitarians are like any humorless, repressive sect.

          They believe absurdities and attack heretics. In their religion, though, there is no such thing as redemption.

          No matter how much penance you do, you are never forgiven.

          It seems obvious to me that it is a religion.

          • Soul Forensics December 18, 2023 at 3:07 pm #

            Yes, but with one important caveat, Paula.

            Redemption must always be used as a gift, though it also must be constantly deferred. One has to stay guilty, afraid, unsure, and (yet!) somehow hopeful.

          • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 5:41 pm #

            Communism is another humorless religion without any real salvation.

            Soul: If you think things are bad in Red China, take a good look at Selma, Alabama.

            Next year, in Selma.

  3. izzy December 18, 2023 at 10:18 am #

    It would probably be for the best if everything could be settled in court, but that would require a functional and relatively honest government. Things may well be past that point already, but the show will certainly go on to keep the public distracted. And who knows what other “unknown unknowns” are slouching towards Bethlehem in this season of our discomfiture. Surely the nasty surprises are not over yet.

    • OG December 18, 2023 at 10:25 am #

      Surely the nasty surprises are not over yet.

      Truer words were never spoke.

      • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2023 at 11:02 am #

        OG – Q gonna’ getcha’.

    • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 12:27 pm #

      Last time Trump appealed to the Supreme Court they told him to get lost. He had no “standing”. Scalia and Thomas dissented, with one of them writing that the dismissal might auger the fall of the Republic.

      • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 2:51 pm #

        Scalia dissented? From the grave?

        • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2023 at 4:32 pm #

          Yes, that “thump, thump, thump”, was Scalia spinning in his grave.

        • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 5:39 pm #

          Alito. Good catch, Paula!

          • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2023 at 10:25 pm #

            Yeah, one of those WOPs, Alito, Scalia, whatever…both born in Trenton, NJ. That’s what threw you off.

          • Paula D December 19, 2023 at 7:04 pm #

            What does WOP stand for, Ron?

          • Ron Anselmo December 21, 2023 at 12:19 am #

            Paula – a derogatory term for Italians. Many believe it meant “with out papers”, during the days of legal immigration through Ellis Island.

            Actually, it’s derived from the southern Italian dialect, from “guappo”, meaning thug or gangster.

            Worldly and as broadly educated and as well-read as you are, surprised you never heard that one. Along with dago or guinea – other derogatory terms.

            Further division amongst Italians and Sicilians – derogatory terms for Sicilians are Zips or Shockies.

            A further knock on Sicilians by the conceited Northern Italians, was that Sicilians were no more than North Africans who could swim.

            Back when humor was still a thing – when jokes were considered funny in their own right, even if they were on us – Italians weren’t considered good surfers, because we were wopsided.

          • Paula D December 21, 2023 at 11:12 am #

            Thanks, Ron. Yes, I had heard it, but I didn’t know what it stood for, and the way you wrote it, I thought it was an acronym.

          • Ron Anselmo December 21, 2023 at 1:59 pm #

            That’s why it’s considered to mean “with out papers” – an acronym. You’re right, the way I wrote it would lead to that impression.

            Here’s one: Nancy Pelosi even claims it means “with out papers”, but she’s obviously misinformed and a liar as well, so she’s confused on, or lying about the meaning. So, it has to be something other than she says.

  4. Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 10:19 am #

    Since I’ve mentioned Mike Benz, he has a thread on X (December 16) about this document:

    CIA’S USE OF JOURNALISTS
    AND CLERGY IN INTELLIGENCE OPERATIONS

    Mike Benz

    @MikeBenzCyber
    I love how 50 different Church groups had to lobby Congress to ask the CIA to stop taking over Church groups because it was getting so bad that foreign governments began to assume that any US Church group overseas was probably just an arm of the CIA

    This is the kind of stuff that gets missionaries killed.

    My church has to shut down its live-streaming of church services when they discuss how the missions are going.

    • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 10:36 am #

      Pretty soon, the churches are going to have to support more poverty in the USA than sending their collections overseas. How many churches are active fighting the homeless in California?

      • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 10:36 am #

        America First???

        • Lyndy33 December 18, 2023 at 11:43 am #

          No way: ME first.

      • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 1:29 pm #

        You misunderstand what missions are. They are not necessarily the same thing as charities.

        You do see, however, establishments billing themselves as missions which provide a bed for the night to the homeless.

        Catholic Charities imports people to dump on American communities already struggling with homelessness.

        • SpeedyBB December 18, 2023 at 9:51 pm #

          “The Missionaries: God Against the Indians” by Norman Lewis.

    • D from OR December 18, 2023 at 10:43 am #

      I have an acquaintance who has recently become involved in a local Catholic parish after many years lapsed.

      This particular parish is Dominican, the Mass is in Latin and it is very under the radar.

      Without going into the details my acquaintance says they are very aware of the infiltration attempts.

      The tells are usually an overenthusiastic new member who bristles at protocols and traditions. The other are veiled grumblings about the Latin.

      Apparently it is the Latin that’s key here.

      As my acquaintance said just because they’re “agents” doesn’t mean they’re good at it.

      • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 11:45 am #

        I just went to a funeral mass Saturday.

        I was the only one wearing a hat and I asked my raised-Catholic husband why no one else was.
        Aren’t women supposed to cover their hair in church?

        He looked at me and said “Yes. Before 1965.”

        Oh.

        • abbybwood December 18, 2023 at 3:39 pm #

          When I was 15 I was invited by a boyfriend to go to our local Catholic Church. His mother gave me a lace doily thing and pinned it on my head. Everyone turned and stared at me as an interloper. I felt like I had snuck in to one of my Dad’s Masonic meetings. Weird.

          • Paula D December 19, 2023 at 2:43 pm #

            I walked into a black barbershop and the same thing happened. Everyone turned and stared at me.

            I felt like I walked into a Spike Lee movie.

    • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 11:48 am #

      If you ever wondered where the Indonesian government got their list of which 500,000 people to kill, or where the South Vietnamese government got their lists of who to snatch up for the Phoenix Program, it was the missionaries.

      I mentioned my Chilean friend who said that when Pinochet overthrew their government and announced that everyone needed to get a new ID card, that when they went to the stadiums to get their cards, the military consulted a list, and disappeared anyone on the list.

      I have no doubt that the lists were compiled the same as in Indonesia and Vietnam.

    • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 12:29 pm #

      Many of them are just shills for Israel and/or shills for our degenerate way of life. Poverty may be better than the American Dream which soon turns into a nightmare.

  5. snagglepuss December 18, 2023 at 10:24 am #

    ‘The actual purpose was to find a 10-inch-thick dossier of documents collected over many months by Mr. Trump’s deputies to be used in future prosecutions of DOJ, FBI, and other officials and private persons (including Hillary Clinton, the DNC, the DNC’s law firm Perkins Coie,) who were implicated in the Russia collusion hoax,..’ Jim.

    Not to worry. Once Russia takes Odessa ( “The whole southeast of Ukraine has always been pro-Russian, because these are historically Russian territories. Turkey knows this well, the entire Black Sea coast went to Russia as a result of the Russo-Turkish wars. What does Ukraine have to do with this? It has nothing to do with it. Neither Crimea, nor the entire Black Sea coast in general,” Putin said in response to a TASS question. “Odessa is a Russian city. We know this. Everyone knows this. But no, they drummed up all sorts of historical nonsense,” he pointed out.) it’s all over but the crying. And the property settlement to end the madness. But then the war crimes tribunals will begin, and you better believe the Russians have the goods on HRC and the neoCons. And no DOJ or other american officials will stop them from exposing to the world.

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    • Cankerpuss December 18, 2023 at 10:43 am #

      Snagglepuss, meet Cankerpuss!

      I like your post. I hope it comes true. So far, the Ukraine stuff just seems to go on and on without end.

    • Bill of Rights December 18, 2023 at 10:55 am #

      10″ thick binders?

      I didn’t know they made them that big.

      • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 11:50 am #

        They are full of women, like Mitt Romney’s.

    • loosethedogs December 18, 2023 at 11:36 am #

      Hopium

    • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 12:01 pm #

      It doesn’t do Russia any good to tell the truth to the world. If the Mighty Wurlitzer of propaganda doesn’t cover it, it never happened.

      Three corporations provide most of the “news” on the international scene, AP, Reuters, and ATP.

      Russia released phone calls in which Cookies Nuland and G. Pyatt discussed the final details of the coup, and who the US was going to put in as their puppet. “Yats. Yats is the guy.”

      Russia released a phone call in which Catherine Ashton and the PM of Estonia talked about how the Maidan massacre was actually carried out by western mercenaries.

      Russia put out proof that the Malaysian airliner which went down over the Donbass (the second Malaysian airliner which went down that year) was not shot down by their weapons.

      Russia brought the star of a White Helmets propaganda video which the CIA used to trick Trump into bombing Syria to the Hague.
      The little boy testified that he was not gassed, he had been snatched off the street by the White Helmets, taken to the hospital and hosed off for the camera.

      Russia released proof that their soldiers had withdrawn from Bucha three days before the Kiev regime “discovered” dead bodies (with armbands signifying their support for Russia) on the streets.

      Russia released proof that the missile which killed the ethnic Russians lined up at the railway station to evacuate to Russia, was a Ukrainian missile, not a Russian one as the msm claimed.

      It doesn’t matter what proof Russia has, or releases. The US controls the media, the international courts, NATO, the EU, and the Security Council.

    • abbybwood December 18, 2023 at 3:46 pm #

      So much for Hillary’s red button re-set with Vlad.

  6. Alfred December 18, 2023 at 10:24 am #

    “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false.” – William J. Casey, CIA Director (1981)

    Trump has been the boogie man since 2016, he was president and couldn’t or wouldn’t fight back against the Russia, Russia, Russia coup that was obvious to even me. Trump didn’t fight back against the COVID-19 coup that was obvious to even me.

    What do I think?

    Trump is controlled opposition.

    RFK is the real threat to the blob’s existence and they’ll elect Trump to stop RFK.

    • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 10:44 am #

      Alfred

      I actually like your controlled opposition statement.

      But RFK,Jr. is a liberal Democrat that except for a couple of items, healthcare and DOJ control, wants socialism just as much as the rest of the Liberals.

      WE are just too far down the pike towards the idea that the answer to our problems is the government and its cronies. The majority of the country is too dependent.

      IF Trump got elected and has controlling majorities in the Congress for four lame duck years, we might stand a chance of reversing the tidal flow toward dictatorship.

      Otherwise, as most here believe, there. Is little recourse.

      • Alfred December 18, 2023 at 12:03 pm #

        I understand the arguments against socialism, and I support them. However, it is painfully evident that the downside of ignoring the element of society that needs help, for whatever reason, isn’t working either. I believe we need social programs that bridge the gap between the socialist and market paradigms.

        Why not make the Army Corp of Engineers it’s own branch of the service and expand it’s mission to include any American infrastructure project. The education and experience, AND THE CHALLENGE of service is enough to mold any young man or woman into a responsible citizen with an actual shot at making it.

        Trump didn’t get it done when he was President before. Why? The only plausible argument I can make is naivete. Really? I like RFK for the same reasons I liked Trump in 2016 and that’s because he’s an outsider with outside ideas. I can’t say with certainty, but I deem him to be an honest man. Even with his Democrat pedigree, he’s the best choice in this race to put a end to the shenanigans. It’s our non-stop mischief making in the world that’s brought us to this point.

        Then again, who the really knows?

        It’s the Casey quote that’s most troubling.

        • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 12:34 pm #

          Socialism allows Capitalism to flourish. The rubes don’t get that. There’s no profit in street lights yet we need them. Who will buy their products if everyone is dead? Or how will they enjoy their ill gotten gains if individuals seek retribution against them? Or groups of individuals?

          Libertarianism is a mind virus just like communism, feminism, etc.

        • abbybwood December 18, 2023 at 4:00 pm #

          How can Trump ever be forgiven for Pompeo, Bolton, Covid response and more. He comes off as a bit of a coward to me. Hell, even Dennis Rodman wasn’t afraid of Kim Jung Un!

      • Organist1022 December 18, 2023 at 12:21 pm #

        So Trump is controlled opposition. In on it from the get go – all of it, including the jab carnage. That’s what you’re saying? In on it, and willing to drag his family through it as well?

        So if he’s their guy, why exactly would they put him through 8 years of persecution, and counting? Why make his presidency a living nightmare? Russia, Mueller, Impeachments, Covid. Why not just go the easy route and insure a HRC victory in 2016?

        And if he’s their guy, with the economy destroyed through lockdowns, and the cull well underway – why get rid of him in 2020? Everything’s going swimmingly.

        It makes no sense.

        • Alfred December 18, 2023 at 12:25 pm #

          Trump doesn’t have to be in on it to be controlled. I don’t think he’s in on it at all. That’s the illusion. Unless it isn’t.

          • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 12:36 pm #

            Good answer. He’s part of their system but imprinted on an earlier version. He infuriates them for being sentimental about the old America. They’re way past that and they won’t stand for anyone slowing them down at this point.

          • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 12:46 pm #

            He listens to people he shouldn’t. He wants to please everybody, even scum of the Earth like Mitt Romney.

            He isn’t controlled opposition, that’s laughable.

            He does have minders though, and he doesn’t see it.

            Lindsay Graham got booed at one of his rallies. The people who attend those love him.

            He will not part ways with Lindsey.

          • Alfred December 18, 2023 at 12:58 pm #

            Beryl you don’t see the contradiction in your own post…

            “He isn’t controlled opposition, that’s laughable.”

            “He does have minders though, and he doesn’t see it.”

            I don’t think I’m too far off the mark when I say there isn’t much difference between being “minded” and being “controlled.”

          • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

            I do see the contradictions Al. He is not controlled opposition in the classic sense.

          • Organist1022 December 18, 2023 at 1:37 pm #

            But if he’s controlled, however that manifests itself, and their covid precious is going as planned . . . why not give him 4 more years?

            I believe he was played. He’s familiar with and successful in dealing with the standard construction/business type of corruption. I don’t believe he had any idea of the depth of evil and depravity that runs DC and the world. He’s stormy daniels, they film anal activities and coke-fueled incest.

            It can either be explained, or it can’t. And something is playing out that is beyond my understanding.

        • abbybwood December 18, 2023 at 4:04 pm #

          If it comes down to Trump and anybody else I will vote for Trump as a protest against the criminal DNC. I find many people who feel the same. Folks don’t like the lawfare being waged against J-6 and Trump. I hope this time he will pardon Assange and all J-6ers.

    • Cankerpuss December 18, 2023 at 10:51 am #

      DJT kept many of Obama’s appointees in key positions.

      DJT initiated the great shut down that crippled our economy and enabled massive money printing because of which we are now reaping the inflationary effects.

      DJT pushed and is still pushing the covid vaccines.

      DJT deferred to scum like Anthony Fauci for direction.

      About Trump I think you are right. I think you are wrong about RFK, though. That dude is a nut.

      • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 12:41 pm #

        Don John is for an earlier version of the system. He has little real insight into what will save us. But he does surprise on occasion: I never though I’d hear the word “tariff” spoken on air. Yet he brought it back. He’s right – it’s a nation builder. Free trade is a nation destroyer.

        • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 1:36 pm #

          The companies that go overseas to avoid environmental rules and child labor laws, etc. that domestic companies abide by are not practicing free trade, to my way of thinking.

          • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 1:45 pm #

            Well then you are using the phrase in a way that no one else understands. The purpose of language is communication.

            But yes, there is nothing “free” about it. The hidden costs are great. But they don’t have to pay them and that is all they care about. Capitalism is evil, pure and simple. Anyone who only cares about profit is evil.

    • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

      RFK has said that the CIA killed his father and uncle.

      RFK has been fighting against Big Pharma for years.

      RFK stands up for the First Amendment.

      RFK is a true environmentalist who hasn’t been sidetracked by the climate change diversion.

      RFK has expressed doubt about the Ukraine project.

      You may not think that’s enough for them to go after him, but they certainly do.

      Of course the first thing they do is call him a nut. If that doesn’t work, they will rig the election. If that doesn’t work, they will kill him.

      That’s how they do.

      But I don’t think they’ll put Trump back in. They don’t like him either.

      • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 12:20 pm #

        Oh, and he wants to shut down the border.

        I’d rather have someone who would shut down the border using existing technology than someone who wants to waste resources building a wall that stops animal migration, instead of human migration.

        • Alfred December 18, 2023 at 12:46 pm #

          I heard him say that vaccine passports was the “hill to die on.” And I believe he’s ok with the second amendment. He respects the courts and argues hard within them.

          This is from his web site… kennedy24.com

          “I respect the Second Amendment, and I won’t take away people’s guns. This divisive issue obscures an underlying moral unity.”

          “With your help, I am going to take on the censorship regime in America today.”

          “On my first day in office, I will issue an order to end all attempts by federal agencies to censor Americans’ political speech.”

          “Recent revelations in the Twitter Files and Missouri v. Biden show how deeply institutionalized government censorship has become,” Kennedy said. “It is dressed up in euphemisms like, ‘working with our partners in tech,’ but make no mistake, this is a systematic program to control what Americans can say and think. As such, it is antithetical to democracy. In a democracy, the people tell the government what to think, not the other way around.”

          • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 1:38 pm #

            He would sign legislation restricting gun ownership and use.

            That is not respecting the 2A.

        • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 12:54 pm #

          People living on the border might not see that wall as such a waste.

          Animal migration is a separate issue that can be dealt with if the two sides work together. TPTB do whatever they can to make sure the two sides never, ever talk to each other, only scream past each other.

          • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 2:57 pm #

            It’s not a separate issue. I understand that people on the border are suffering from the invasion, but I disagree that building a wall would solve the problem.

            Have you ever been to Wyoming and seen the desperate antelopes running along the highway, unable to escape because of the fences?
            It is hearbreaking.

            To believe that drones, planes, radar, heal sensors, satellites, cameras, and patrols are not enough to protect the border, is not rational, in my opinion.

            The problem is not that they don’t see people coming over the border.
            The problem is that the Border Patrol is not allowed to stop them.
            The problem is that they are told to let them go.
            Remember when that one agent on horseback was demonized for using his reins?

            Building a wall would not change that. The policy has to be changed.

            I think that Trump wanted to throw some business to construction corporations, with all his talk about a wall.

            I care more about the animals than the profits of construction corporations.

      • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 12:38 pm #

        He wants to put Blacks over Whites even more than they already are. Reparations.

        All politicians are for closing borders just before elections. The same thing repeats endlessly in Europe as well. Midway thru his term Trump suddenly said he “wants all these people here because the economy is so good” – utterly fatuous and an utter betrayal of is base.

        • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 1:07 pm #

          Bobby believes he was privileged, and maybe he was.

          He is also white, ergo white and privilege go together.

          Then he insults the hell out of white boys by talking down to them about how he will do reparations in a manner that they will see is fair.

          Who came up with the concept of underprivilege anyway?

          Like privilege can and should be dealt out to all equally.

          • Alfred December 20, 2023 at 9:04 am #

            RFK strikes me as someone who will work to dismantle in the deep state capture of our institutions. Seriously, that’s all that matters now. We can fight about privilege or classic liberalism after we break the grip the deep state, the neo-liberals, the neo-cons and the radical left has around our throats.

            I don’t dislike Trump, I don’t think he’s bad for our Country, and I think he’d be an effective leader. In my view, he’s already demonstrated those good qualities. He’s also demonstrated some really bad qualities, as Paula and Abbey pointed out. And if RFK isn’t on the ballot and Trump is, I’ll vote Trump.

            I’ve been voting since 1980, and as disillusioned as one can get in our political process, no vote is ever wasted if you cast it. Right now my vote goes to RFK. I don’t want another 4 years like 2016 – 2020. God only knows what they’ll do in their madness to get Trump.

            Throw them all out.

          • Paula D December 20, 2023 at 11:35 am #

            I will no longer vote, Alfred, but I agree with your plan.
            Whatever upsets out overlords the most is a good thing.

  7. JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 10:25 am #

    California, many years ago, crossed the line, where the combined population of minorities became the majority, at least fifteen years ago. The majority has increased since. It was then that the Californians started to lose their minds, Rob Reiner one of them.

    The Left does not really understand what democracy is, heck, the world really does not know what it is.

    In the US, democracy is one person, one vote. The current situation of “democracy” is that the majority vote will be the mob, every single time.

    The majority of our population is in the cities, period. Pure democracy right now will create the continued dominance of the cities in everything. Eff suburbs, eff the farms. We all know what highlights the cities, minority gimmes and today illegal immigrants and their gangs and crime. So, right now, democracy will promote the demise of law and order in this country.

    That is actually happening right now.

    Locking in the uniparty by using the populace vote, that would do it. Uniparty is communism as defined by the USSR and CCP. No alternatives, redistribution of the wealth, social engineering and eugenics via abortion, socialism in the economy, MIC dominance in foreign policy, pathetic political persons, open borders to promote illicit trade to grease the skids of global finance (and the Biden fortune).

    The comeuppance is in sight and advancing quickly. BRICS++is going to overwhelm the USA and sooner rather than later. Houthi rebels today shooting at shipping traffic and making shipping folks insist on going around the Horn. Egypt’s income drying up as the Suez traffic dries up. And on and on.

    The world is about to take the crown away from the US and then we will be stuck with these idiots in DC and their shenanigans. Woe unto us!!!!!!!!

    Democracy is going to destroy the USA. Adherence to the Constitution starting now will undo much of the damage the Dems have done to the country. IMHO, Trump is much closer to a republican (small R) than any Democrat or RINO could be.

    A pox on pure democracy, Mr. Reiner.

    Sidebar. FDR led the most fascist government in US history both during the Depression and the war. American industry was being totally driven by the Feds.

    • Cankerpuss December 18, 2023 at 10:41 am #

      Democracies have a 200 year live span, JohnAZ. As you know. We are what, 240+? Like Rome of old, soon the Senate and the House will be deemed unnecessary which, in all reality, they really are nothing more than neutered bodies trying desperately to enrich themselves and keep themselves in the lime light. Unfortunately, they pissed away all of their authority because they are too damned lazy and stupid to do their Constitutionally mandated jobs.

      • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 10:58 am #

        What you are describing is the rise of the empire phase, the dictatorship. It is approaching the US just like Rome.

        Same cause too, Julius Caesar protected the mob from outside threats, especially slave rebellions, as our illustrious Liberal wing is going to protect us from the MAGA.

        Both cases, the mob thinks it wins.

        • Cankerpuss December 18, 2023 at 11:08 am #

          Yep. That is exactly what I believe is going to happen. The USA as a Republic will end, just as it did in Rome. We will exist as some kind of filthy empire/monarchy in one sick form or another for another 300 years.

          • happiface December 18, 2023 at 11:37 am #

            nope–Martin Armstrong has all the data on where we are headed on his computer program–he has the most data on world history ever put on a program–everything is in cycles,nothing new under the sun–Rome existed for about a 1000 years because they allowed free trade,everyone benefited –the USA is over after 2034—and if the nukes fly only about 200 million people in the world will live beyond 5 years after that

          • Socrates-Detroit December 18, 2023 at 2:12 pm #

            I think that time today is “worth more”.

            While the value of money, let’s pick the dollar, since 1913 has evaporated, the value of time has increased.

            Today it takes about $7 or $8 to buy the same food or clothing it took $1 to buy in the mid-1960s, give or take.

            But look at how much the world has changed, and innovation.

            Mankind, even in the “West”, post 15xx-16xx moved kind of slowly. Then the English came up with the steam engine and used their coal to power it, which started the industrial revolution and rail. Even in the US, life in 1861 had advanced more since 1776 than it had since 16xx.

            Then the US and Germany, mostly independently, maybe some synergism, moved on the new fields of chemistry and ELECTRICITY. That was huge leap forward.

            I don’t think any single innovation can rival electrical power. But, electrical power spawned many innovations…radio, TV, better manufacturing techniques which gave much better cars and aircraft. Then transistors. Personal computers. The internet.

            Compare every day life now with the 1990s.

            So events are moving much faster. That makes a unit of time today, an hour or a decade, MUCH more valuable than an hour or decade in the time of Rome.

            By that way of reasoning, Imperial America, 1945-20xx, has lasted longer than the Roman Empire.

            (Until the Spanish-American War, 1898 the USA was not a “player” on the world stage, though by then it had become a prosperous nation).

            If one plays the historical odds of empires being 100-200 years mostly (though, by the way, the Byzantine Empire, aka the GREEK part of the Roman Empire outlasted that; and the Ottoman Empire that displaced the Byzantines outlasted that), then America’s actual 80 years so far is equivalent to several “inflation-adjusted” centuries.

            So, we may be closer to the end than we think…

      • bobfitz03 December 18, 2023 at 11:57 am #

        “ Democracies have a 200 year live span..”

        They do, but why?

        Every time the people decide to take sovereign control of their lives, the wheels start spinning to mobilize resources to get the slaves back in line. Fiat currency, debt, foreign wars, internal rivalries are introduced and manipulated to provide a death by a thousand cuts.

        Maybe it takes 200 years to shut down a free nation without the public realizing who is actually spinning the wheels to redirect the herd back to the status quo.

        Does anything ever run a “natural” course?

        • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 12:44 pm #

          Regimes rise and fall but a nation can continue. Look at Egypt, Japan, China, etc.

          If the culture is changed via mass immigration and loss of the genotype, then the nation is finished. Egypt finally succumbed in that way. As is America and the West.

        • tuco22 December 18, 2023 at 3:56 pm #

          I think it’s the difference in the generations, something kind of like what’s described in the book The Fourth Turning by Strauss and Howe.

    • malthuss December 18, 2023 at 11:05 am #

      A capital with an imported majority population is no longer a capital city but a conquered city. [Europe].

      sacramento cali?

      • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 12:46 pm #

        Londonistan. Alba doesn’t see anything wrong. Just totally natural to have White Englishmen (the only kind) be a minority in the capitol.

        • BackRowHeckler December 18, 2023 at 1:13 pm #

          Not only a minority, but a small & despised minority.

          The Irish in Dublin, facing dispossession as well, are trying to do something about it. Is it too late? Well, the Irish PM has a Punjabi name, not an Irish name.

          • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 1:48 pm #

            A hotel that was being outfitted for migrants was burned over the weekend. So it wasn’t a flash in the pan. The Captain is coming out to play.

        • GreenAlba December 18, 2023 at 1:58 pm #

          “Londonistan. Alba doesn’t see anything wrong.”

          750th time you’ve repeated that lie. I said it’s up to the English to manage London. 750 times.

          Toad.

          But I see you’ve done it again. Let everyone know how much you miss me. Hilarious.

          • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 5:36 pm #

            Ok, let’s play it your way: What do you think of how the English are managing London?

          • GreenAlba December 18, 2023 at 8:53 pm #

            I think pretty much everything that’s under the remit of Sadiq Khan is appalling (e.g. ULEZ and mega-surveillance), but he has no say in immigration policy.

            London’s situation in having more non-British and/or non-white residents (not the same thing) than other cities in England is exactly the same as pertains in any capital city, because capital cities are where many immigrants will head, in any country.

            Now, down to the Home Office, which is in charge of immigration policy … you should remember, but probably don’t because you don’t want to, that I warned repeatedly before the Brexit vote, that internal EU migration was much less of a problem than non-EU immigration, and that the latter was already increasing (it was always greater than internal EU migration) and would increase far more once we left the EU (I’m fine with having left the EU, just saying …).

            That has happened, just as I predicted. I said at the time that the Home Office should have been dealing with non-EU immigration as a priority. The expressions ‘dealing with’ and ‘problem’ should indicate to a normal person that I considered the situation not to be OK.

            I also specifically said that, if we had people coming to work, I’d rather they were e.g. Polish Catholics than random people from countries with entirely different cultures (since leaving the EU we now have people from Tajikistan instead of Romania picking cabbages in Norfolk).

            It is pretty obvious to most people at this point that, discounting a small number of political players, the reason the Home Office isn’t controlling immigration is because it doesn’t want to. Same for gazillions of asylum seekers (and ‘asylum seekers’) arriving in small boats. The whole Rwanda thing is a level of surreal dysfunctionality that I wouldn’t even attempt to address.

            But I expect the same garbage from you the next time the subject comes up, because you are a very dishonest little toad.

          • Jarek December 19, 2023 at 12:28 am #

            Your evil nature come out with the foul language. Why don’t you crucify a toad and call it Jarek? Classic black magic.

            You’re still fine with mass immigration, obviously. You’re hopeless.

          • GreenAlba December 19, 2023 at 11:06 am #

            ‘Lying toad’ is a well known expression, which suits you fine. I have nothing against real toads in nature, ugly as they are.

            “You’re still fine with mass immigration, obviously.”

            Happy to leave everyone to judge the blackness of your soul themselves, on that one.

          • Jarek December 19, 2023 at 1:01 pm #

            Yeah, cuz it’s normal to have your capitol city inhabited by a race other than that of the Nation.

            You still don’t get it because you have no loyalty to your people and nation. When Edinburgh goes, you’ll be saying the same thing.

          • GreenAlba December 19, 2023 at 2:59 pm #

            I say one thing – you claim I said the opposite.

            Your soul is black as pitch, toad.

          • Paula D December 19, 2023 at 7:06 pm #

            We can see what you said, Alba, and how he twisted it.

            Par for the course.

          • Jarek December 21, 2023 at 1:22 pm #

            As long as you believe in the European Union’s legitimacy, its treaties, objectives and policies, you are in illusion. Why? Because one of the chief objectives of the EU is the elimination of White Europeans. England may have left the EU, but it didn’t leave the mindset.

            Neither have you since you think it’s fine that Blacks and Muslims live in Britain, and now complain about there being too many Whites.

            Puala is of the same ignorant ilk.

          • GreenAlba December 21, 2023 at 5:32 pm #

            “As long as you believe in the European Union’s legitimacy, its treaties, objectives and policies, you are in illusion.”

            I don’t. Never did. I voted Remain (but wouldn’t now) to protect British jobs.

            “Neither have you since you think it’s fine that Blacks and Muslims live in Britain, and now complain about there being too many Whites.”

            Do find the quote where I said I am ok with anyone complaining there are too many white people, you evil, disgusting liar.

            Black as pitch.

          • GreenAlba December 21, 2023 at 5:38 pm #

            And yes, I think it’s fine that SOME blacks and muslims live in Britain, especially the ones who’s countries the British Empire bled dry. And no, that’s not a call for reparations, toad.

            I have never supported mass immigration, especially the out-of-control version we currently have, and you will never find a quotation where I did. But you will continue to lie because a vile liar is what you are.

            “I said that most little girls grow out of their ridiculously claiming to know their adversary’s thoughts, feelings and motives […]”. OG

            Can’t think who that applies to. Anyone?

  8. teddyboy46 December 18, 2023 at 10:25 am #

    I will only vote if Trump is the Canidate. Remember the right to vote is also the right not to vote. There are 16 countries in the world where voting is compulsory. China being #1.

    It is a mistake on Trumps part to ridicule Ron Disantis he could have been a great vice president, then president.

    • Cankerpuss December 18, 2023 at 10:37 am #

      Cue the RINO euphemism that if you don’t vote you are essentially voting for a Democrat. Here it comes! Are you ready?

      • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 1:49 pm #

        I will debate you on this.

        Millions of leftist voters cancel out millions of rightist voters. The actual difference is very small.

        If you believe in one side or the other, you need to cancel out one vote of the other side, if you do not care, well you’re a non-issue anyway so your vote does not mean much.

        Always extrapolate things to the extreme to see the potential effects.

        If all the non-Trump conservatives decided to stay home, the battle is over. IMHO, RINOs sitting at home in 2020 cost Trump the election.

        Everyone needs to vote their belief system.

        • Mike Sherman December 19, 2023 at 7:06 pm #

          “Everyone needs to vote their belief system.

          Agreed, JohnAZ. (Our first time as far as I can recall…)

          So, in November 2020, 8 million more voters rejected Drumpf than supported him. But most of you don’t like that equation – it’s as if you’re outraged because some people who DON’T think like you and are probably black or brown get an equal amount of say with their one vote. Jeez – how will you fix that?

    • Lyndy33 December 18, 2023 at 12:01 pm #

      OTOH: Ron DeSantis did some good in Florida. I think he should be given a shot at Washington. It wouldn’t surprise me if he was literally shot by Lefties or Trumpettes. No one can stand a reasonable opponent.

      • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 12:47 pm #

        He’s being backed by the Bushes and the people behind them. He’s a good governor but would be a monster as president.

        • Organist1022 December 18, 2023 at 1:39 pm #

          He’s a dead-eyed empty suit that didn’t even have enough discernment to wait his turn.

          • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 1:49 pm #

            Yes, there’s that too. He’s young. Let Trump have what was denied him. But he’s ambitious and his backers want him in now. And they are monsters.

        • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 1:40 pm #

          Anything to keep the Bush-Cheney influence out of DC. Worse than Biden, IMHO.

    • Socrates-Detroit December 18, 2023 at 12:41 pm #

      You should cast a ballot no matter what.

      Pick a 3rd party… Libertarian, Green, Socialist, Communist, Workers

      They all have some or a lot of BS.

      But the more people that voted for 3rd parties, the more the duopoly has to think, “there’s a mass of people out there who might vote for the other major party”.

      Then again, with all these absentee ballots, the system is now tainted.

      • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 12:48 pm #

        Should we vote for Blacks as a kind or reparations? So Blacks know that we aren’t “racists”?

  9. buckeyeman December 18, 2023 at 10:28 am #

    Krake = to twist en= masculine definite article added to the end of a noun (Old Norse), ergo:

    KRAKEN = “the twisted (one)”

    So again, The Kraken rises from the murky depths to haunt the nightmares of the evil leftists. Like a crucifix is to a vampire or a silver bullet is to a werewolf, The Kraken will destroy them and save us.

    The Kraken takes many forms. Today it is… “a ten inch thick dossier”. Maybe it doesn’t even exist, but JHK hopes it does. It has all the dope – all the info – all the incriminating details that will send them all to prison.

    Except it won’t.

    Even if…EVEN IF this new Kraken was all it’s “Kraked” up to be, it doesn’t matter. Our beloved nation is now so lawless that none of this matters. We all see what has happened and is happening now with the J6 “prosecutions” and the scorched earth campaign against all things Trump and all things conservative. There is NOTHING we can do to stop it.

    THEY are organized and committed, we are not. If there were going to be mobs marching up Capitol Hill carrying torches and pitchforks and seeking to right our foundering country it would have already happened. But it didn’t.

    Worst case scenario – the maximally corrupt “Supreme Court” does what Pontius Pilate did to… that guy – washes its hands and turns it back over to the mob. Chutkin (or whoever) convicts Trump and actually puts him in jail. What are any of us going to do? Answer, NOTHING (maybe with a few rare exceptions that will end up like Ashley Babbitt). I hope I’m wrong, but history is not on our side.

    • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2023 at 10:52 am #

      “There is NOTHING we can do to stop it.” ~ buckeyeman

      Not true. Most lack the will. For the few – their will will be done.

      “THEY are organized and committed, we are not. If there were going to be mobs marching up Capitol Hill carrying torches and pitchforks and seeking to right our foundering country it would have already happened. But it didn’t.” ~ buckeyeman

      We won’t be marching up Capitol Hill, and we won’t be carrying useless torches and pitchforks. For the few – our will will be done.

      • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 11:02 am #

        Already tried, Jan. 6, the participants are all going to jail.

        • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2023 at 11:20 am #

          You can’t be serious. That’s what torches and pitchforks get you.

        • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 1:01 pm #

          Yes, Ron is right. Cville was our first and last torchlight parade. It was glorious. We’ll have to wait for Victory to do another.

    • elysianfield December 18, 2023 at 11:15 am #

      “So again, The Kraken rises from the murky depths to haunt the nightmares of the evil leftists. Like a crucifix is to a vampire or a silver bullet is to a werewolf, The Kraken will destroy them and save us.”

      Buckey,
      You misspelled Golem. “G O L E M”…not “K R A K E N”

    • Mike Sherman December 18, 2023 at 9:48 pm #

      “So again, The Kraken rises from the murky depths to haunt the nightmares of the evil leftists. Like a crucifix is to a vampire or a silver bullet is to a werewolf, The Kraken will destroy them and save us

      Utterly delusional. What is the matter with you?

      youtube.com/watch?v=9f_PhQI-6oo

  10. Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 10:32 am #

    I wish I could feel sanguine about the outcome of this.

    Someone had The Sound of Music on the television last night. How unusual, a network running a movie considered a Christmas special.

    It was damned depressing. The subject matter that really happened, these people seeing what is happening to their homeland, and having to flee, and thinking about where they fled to, and knowing that the same thing is happening hear and now, all in my lifetime.

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    • Cankerpuss December 18, 2023 at 10:36 am #

      At least the Von Trapps had somewhere to flee to. Where do Americans flee to? I spent time in Australia but living there would be no better than here. Canada? Hell no. Mexico? And be run by the drug cartels? Argentina? The just elected a fraud. Chile? They are going communist again.

      I’ve heard good things about El Salvador lately, though.

      • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 11:02 am #

        Australia was going woke before we began to.

        They are one of the countries that make it illegal not to vote, as well.

        • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2023 at 11:35 am #

          Yes Beryl – Aussies have been the beta testing ground, starting with being disarmed first and then everything that has followed.

          • Socrates-Detroit December 18, 2023 at 12:43 pm #

            Australia. Didn’t they have mandatory vaccinations (even more than the US) and concentration camps for the unvaxxed?

            Canada is worse than the US.

            You need to try to change minds where you live. Good luck with that! LOL!

          • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2023 at 1:10 pm #

            Yes S-D, the Aussies & Kiwi’s, under Morrison & Ardern, respectively, were tyranny defined. Insane. Delusional. Hard to believe how the people put up with it. Disarmed answers a lot though.

            Some in the US and even those in CFN, claim we have no choice in matters. As long as we’re armed, we do. Only if we avail ourselves though.

            AU & NZ – no choice – just like every other disarmed, authoritarian-ruled country. Hopefully we watch and learn – we haven’t so far.

          • Rooftop Observer December 18, 2023 at 8:25 pm #

            @ Ron Anselmo “Yes S-D, the Aussies & Kiwi’s, under Morrison & Ardern, respectively, were tyranny defined. Insane. Delusional. Hard to believe how the people put up with it. Disarmed answers a lot though.

            I’m sorry to disappoint you, Ron, but I can tell you that, living in New Zealand during the 2020 initial lockdown and subsequent shorter events, was blissful compared to what the rest of the world appeared to be enduring.

            It’s true, Australia has a lot more loopies by number (not percentage) than NZ and they went out looking for trouble, screaming that their ‘freedom had been taken from them!” Fucking idiots.

            But as for Ardern & Morrison being ‘dictators’? ‘Tyrants’? You’re the fucking idiot if you truly believe that. What’s more, you’re marching yourselves towards a true dictatorship supporting Trump – he’s basically TELLING you what he’d be. Fuck that.

          • Rooftop Observer December 18, 2023 at 8:33 pm #

            @S-D: “Australia. Didn’t they have mandatory vaccinations (even more than the US) and concentration camps for the unvaxxed?

            S-D – No, and No.

            No one was held down and injected against their will. The ‘camps’ were isolation facilities for citizens returning from overseas, where they were quarantined for up to 14 days. They were fed well and not tortured, nor forced to sign anything refuting their ‘views’ on the situation. I know several people who went through the process in New Zealand. Depending on which Airport you arrived at and which Hotel you were lodged in, the experience differed but in no important ways.

            As for we Kiwis, we enjoyed almost all of 2020 and 2021 living a pretty ordinary life. We couldn’t go overseas (too bad) but there was little COVID around because it had not been left to run free as Trump allowed it to do.

            All in all, the government was widely supported in its actions. True, there were those who didn’t like it, but was it not ever thus?

          • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2023 at 11:04 pm #

            Rooftop Karen – hardy fucking har har.

            I’m not disappointed, I don’t give a rat’s ass.

            Glad you enjoyed yourself, you’re a bootlicker, so that’s your bias – normal to you.

            “Couldn’t go overseas” – so, NZ, being an island, you couldn’t leave – but “the government was widely supported.” Stockholm Syndrome ring a bell?

            Ardern makes me want to hurl, followed closely by HRC, Pelosi & Whitmer – skanks all. If they were the last four women on Earth, I’d gladly be a eunuch.

            Funny how you’ve weathered Covid but weren’t able to prevent TDS. As far as I know, there’s no cure, same as stupid – they seem to be co-morbidities.

            Cheers.

          • Paula D December 19, 2023 at 2:54 pm #

            Yes, Ron, RO has a bad case of TDS.

            It shows the power of the international media, what Frank Wisner called “the Mighty Wurlitzer”, when we see some random dude living on an island on the other side of the world, so fully infected with TDS.

            Why the hell would a Kiwi care about a US president? Especially one that’s been out of office for 3 years?

            It is truly bizarre.

          • Paula D December 19, 2023 at 2:59 pm #

            No adult was held down and injected against their will here, either, although many children were.

            It was a combination of fear, threats, and bribery that made 70% of Americans submit.

            The fear and bribery were used first, but free donuts weren’t working as well as our overlords assumed (showing the contempt they have for overweight Americans.)

            So then they switched to coercion and threats. You want to keep your job?
            You want to go out in public?
            You want to visit your family?
            Then take the jab, loser.

            And still 30% of us gave a rousing “Fuck You” to Tony and his mad scientists in the bioweapon labs, as well as the profiteering pharma goons paying off the influencers.

          • Rooftop Observer December 19, 2023 at 7:00 pm #

            @Ron Asshole & Paula Dufus

            yes – Ardern’s government was ‘largely supported’, as shown in the October 2020 election when her party won more than 50% of the vote – in a Mixed Member Proportional system, that is HUGE.

            As to why I am interested in what Drumpf is doing, are you fucking kidding me? While you all mope about muttering about how the USA is going to hell all around you, you clearly have no REAL idea how important America is to the rest of the World. If it turns to custard, as you MAGAt Minions are calling for, then JohnAZ’s fevered predictions about China taking over may come to pass. Jeez! Get a fucking GRIP,!

          • Paula D December 19, 2023 at 7:16 pm #

            Under Biden, the US is carrying on a proxy war with Russia that only the patience of the Russians keeps from widening into a nuclear war.

            Under Biden, the US is sailing through Chinese waters and flying over Chinese warships.
            They are sending arms to Taiwan while simultaneously telling the Chinese that the US One China policy has not changed.
            Doesn’t it bother you when they so blatantly lie, in the service of starting yet another war with a nuclear-armed country?

            Meanwhile, in the Red Sea, the US is trying to cobble together another Coalition of the Willing, this time to attack Yemen, in the name of, get this, “freedom of navigation”.

            This from the country that sent the US Navy to stop ships from delivering food and other supplies to Yemen since 2015, leading to the starvation deaths of millions of children. No freedom of navigation when it came to shipping food to Yemen.

            Doesn’t blatant hypocrisy bother you? Or is it fine, as long as it comes from a Democrat, even if you live in a completely different country?

            In only three years, Biden has taken the US to the brink of nuclear war with two countries and riled up the Middle East, while you blather on and on about your lurid delusional fantasies about Scary Orange Man.

            Unfuckingbelivable.

          • Ron Anselmo December 21, 2023 at 3:08 pm #

            RK – stop with the foolishness, you’re not a serious person. Grow up.

    • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 1:03 pm #

      Ber, now are you starting to see the value of Christianity?

      • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 1:41 pm #

        Oh Jarek.

  11. Cankerpuss December 18, 2023 at 10:34 am #

    Mr. Kunstler, I must say that you are wrong. Joe Biden will be the candidate for the Democrats and Mr. Trump is going to be the first former US President to end up in jail. The Blob has won. There is nobody watching the waters. There is nobody holding these fuckers accountable.

    As always, I hope you are right but my gut tells me we aren’t going to recover from this. Mr. Trump as the President again? I have no faith in this especially after the “red wave” in the midterms of 2022 turned out to be nothing but a red pin prick. We all know the vote is stolen by the the Democrat thugs and we all know the Republican scum have no desire to fix it. We also know most people are asleep at the wheel in a food coma or too busy enjoying themselves satisfying their porn addiction. The blob will have its way with us and will continue to do so until we submit.

    • Ishabaka December 18, 2023 at 12:59 pm #

      Sadly, I think you’re right. Joe Biden will be elected in 2024, even if he’s deceased and mummified.

      • Mike Sherman December 18, 2023 at 8:15 pm #

        A Deceased & mummified President Biden would be far and away more acceptable to the majority of voters than a foaming-at-the-mouth President Orange Jesus, even from his padded jail cell.

        • Paula D December 19, 2023 at 3:01 pm #

          That says a lot.

    • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 1:04 pm #

      Trump will run America from his jail cell? If only!

      • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

        Why not? John McCain is running things from Hell.

        • RD3 December 18, 2023 at 1:44 pm #

          Who enjoys/enjoyed indiscriminate bombing and human meat grinders more? McCain or John Bolton? I think its a close race.

    • RD3 December 18, 2023 at 1:18 pm #

      Lincoln wanted to put Franklin Pierce in jail, but his advisors cautioned him against it. If Lincoln had had his way, he would have put every living ex president except Fillmore in jail.

    • bobfitz03 December 18, 2023 at 2:46 pm #

      “ Mr. Trump is going to be the first former US President to end up in jail.”

      Probably, but Trump will run from jail and WIN.

      The American crazy knob going to eleven will not even begin to cover the salad days ahead in 2024. Bare minimum, our knob needs to go to seventeen.

      • Mike Sherman December 18, 2023 at 8:11 pm #

        But…but…bobfitz! How can he win when the sneaky evil baby-eating Democrats will surely just pull the same stunts as last time, right? “Steal” it right from under your nose again, right?

    • Mike Sherman December 18, 2023 at 8:14 pm #

      “We all know the vote is stolen by the the Democrat thugs

      FFS…! Give this one a rest, already. You DO NOT “know” that. You BELIEVE it, an Act of Faith because if you have to accept the loss, half your narrative goes up in smoke.

  12. C.O.Jones December 18, 2023 at 10:51 am #

    I think – since our host asked – that IF Trump were to hold executive office again, he would repeat his previous non-performance. Nobody is getting locked up. He would serve as a distraction by being impeached a few more times and generally serve as a deep-state punching bag while what’s left of our country and the planet slip under the waves of totalitarian control currently bashing away at our foundations. Trump is willing to take money for publicly appearing impotent. Does any thinking person honestly believe that the guy who takes credit for the death shot would prosecute the people who engineered the fake pandemic? This dildo got impeached for asking Zelensky to investigate the obvious and incredible previously unscaled level of corruption engaged in by “Joe Biden.” Same implement couldn’t even keep the FBI out of his wife’s underwear drawer. He’s a tool for the deep state.

    I don’t think Trump will ever hold the office of president again because NOTHING has been done about election integrity. If Trump’s vote count was 200,000,000 the deep state would suspend counting in the middle of the night and then announce that “Joe Biden” got 210,000,000 votes and anyone who disagrees goes to jail. Most of the US citizenry would never question the fact that there are not that many people in the country much less voters. “Duh….yup, yup – sounds good to me!”

    Bobby Kennedy will offer up carbon taxes as a solution and the waves will wash over us once and for all.

    • Cankerpuss December 18, 2023 at 11:03 am #

      C.O. Jones. Amen Bruddah. You get it. I can’t say it any better. Too many people are still believing the system can be saved or repaired, even JHK. I don’t. I’ve always said that Trump is not the solution to what ails America. He is a symptom of what ails America.

      The country is sick. Our filthy government exists because the people permit it to exist and why do the people permit so much rampant corruption? Because the people themselves are rampantly corrupt.

      1. Pornography is a multi-billion dollar industry in America.
      2. Drub use is rampant in America funding the cartels and granting them power.
      3. Americans are in debt up to their eyeballs and own nothing.
      4. Americans would rather live on the dole than take care of themselves.
      5. Americans engage in fornication before ever considering marriage and committment.
      6. As a result of rampant fornication women murder their own offspring as a form or means of birth control and celebrate it as a personal progressive right.
      7. Americans put celebrity scum on a pedestal and worship them while vilifying the true deity.
      8. Americans no longer pray but worship government, government, which is actually a creation of the people.
      9. Idol worshipping.
      10. Idleness. How many countless hours are lost to people watching the tee vee when they could be doing something productive.
      11. Physical fitness no longer matters. The majority of Americans are fat, disgusting slobs.
      12. Tattoos. Facial piercings. Botox. Fake boobs, fake asses. Blue hair.

      Need I say more?

      Great post, CO. Great post.

      • malthuss December 18, 2023 at 11:22 am #

        gawd u r cranky cranker puss.

        • Socrates-Detroit December 18, 2023 at 12:45 pm #

          The truth is a harsh mistress.

        • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 1:06 pm #

          He’s a Jack Mormon. A cracka. This is what they’re supposed to do.

      • beantownbill. December 18, 2023 at 12:28 pm #

        Great post CP, too. You’ve listed many of the things that are so obviously true about our unfortunate country. Sigh.

      • RD3 December 18, 2023 at 1:22 pm #

        Nice list and you didn’t even mention gambling of every sort and form, including losing your family’s whole paycheck right from your phone. Oh, and the NFL, the great opiate of the American masses.

    • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 11:10 am #

      “I don’t think Trump will ever hold the office of president again because NOTHING has been done about election integrity. If Trump’s vote count was 200,000,000 the deep state would suspend counting in the middle of the night and then announce that “Joe Biden” got 210,000,000 votes and anyone who disagrees goes to jail.”

      I have to agree with that.

      • Jimpa December 18, 2023 at 11:21 am #

        Trump would be different the second time around. Why? Because he’s a vindictive SOB and he will do his best to punish those who are behind these various court cases. I agree he will be ineffective on many levels, but at least he’ll be out for revenge. That’s better than nothing.

        • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 11:29 am #

          That’s not enough people to make a difference.

          He’s vindictive to people like Ron DeSantis too.

          • C.O.Jones December 18, 2023 at 11:58 am #

            Remember Trump saying he was going to release the JFK files?
            Remember Trump threatening to release the 9/11 files?
            Remember “lock her up”?

            Do you suppose he really means it THIS TIME?

            If Trump gave a damn about this country, he never would have consented to a “lock down.”

            If Trump served any purpose other than deep state distraction, he would have disproven the Russian collusion delusion instead of letting it drag on.

            Trump’s purpose is to serve as a distraction while the country burns. He’s good at it. We cannot afford any more of his deep state appointees. He’s done.

            I really thought RFK was a viable alternative. His proposal to close military bases around the world and bring the troops home to defend the country would create financial solvency. Then he started yammering about a carbon crisis and carbon taxes and revealed himself to be another cheap-jack globalist.

            Check please!

          • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 1:08 pm #

            Well said, Jones. We were supposed to get a stack of documents a foot high. But nothing. Trying to appease those who won’t be appeased.

          • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 1:10 pm #

            And who did he pardon? Assange? Or what’s his name who fled to Russia? No, he pardoned Blago.

          • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 1:45 pm #

            Trump decided to “let the system handle” Assange.

            The same system that is now handling him.

        • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 12:33 pm #

          Yep, he is already making noise in that direction.

          Problem is, though, are their any non-Deep Staters within a hundred miles of DC?

        • Mike Sherman December 18, 2023 at 8:06 pm #

          So, Jimpa, you’d vote for him just to watch the shitshow? As the USA finally collapses into Gilead-style dictatorship? So you can have a few laughs? Nice one.

      • Mike Sherman December 18, 2023 at 8:07 pm #

        Sounds like a better outcome than Drumpf winning to me.

        But what you’re really saying is, if he DOESN’T win in 2024, you aren’t going to believe it – again!

        • Mike Sherman December 18, 2023 at 8:09 pm #

          ^^^^ was in response to this nonsense from Jimpa:

          “Trump would be different the second time around. Why? Because he’s a vindictive SOB and he will do his best to punish those who are behind these various court cases. I agree he will be ineffective on many levels, but at least he’ll be out for revenge. That’s better than nothing.

    • Lyndy33 December 18, 2023 at 12:15 pm #

      There are a lot of women out there that will never vote for Trump. My wife included. He is a bully of the highest order. “Got money; you can grab them by the pussy.” Look for a reasonable alternative.

      • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

        He is absolutely right in that. It is proven by Joe Biden, when he sniffs and gropes women in front of their husbands, and children in front of their parents.

        I don’t see why any woman would be upset that Trump pointed out the advantage of wealth and power for a man.
        Do they really think that Melania thinks he’s sexy?

        Kissinger pointed it out decades ago, and everyone thought he was clever.
        It’s only the media spin that gets people in an uproar about Trump.

        • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 12:29 pm #

          Right!

        • pranah December 18, 2023 at 3:29 pm #

          Paula, you’re so right. My boyfriend, a former Vietnam-era marine veteran, has said exactly what Trump said, and with worse language than “pussy,” too. I think the point they make is true, obviously so, and people who got the vapors over DJT saying it made me roll my eyes.

          A friend who was rabidly anti-DJT as early as 2015 said he (DJT) was detestable because he’d not paid some worker for services rendered. Um, okay, not cool, but I didn’t know exactly why he didn’t pay so I reserved judgement on that. But hey, I pointed out how the bitch queen and her husband stole two billion from the Haitians through their fraudulent charity…crickets.

          You can’t get through to people with TDS.

          • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 8:28 pm #

            You sure can’t.

            And hello! fellow eye-roller.

          • pranah December 18, 2023 at 9:41 pm #

            Hey, Paula! [waves]

      • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 12:29 pm #

        So vote for Biden who takes showers with little girls, licks hair.

      • RD3 December 18, 2023 at 1:26 pm #

        I’m sure there has been a whole troop train of women over the years who were begging for Trump to grab them by the pussy.

        • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 1:56 pm #

          Yep, people do not want to accept the fact that playboys like Trump have females flocking around them, like all celebrities.

          I guess you end up pissing off a few who try to get their revenge years later.

          • RD3 December 18, 2023 at 2:02 pm #

            You don’t even have to piss them off. They just want money and face time. Like that blonde whore that went after Trump. She just wanted money and everyone to see her facelift and big fake boobs on television.

      • elysianfield December 18, 2023 at 1:27 pm #

        ” Look for a reasonable alternative.”

        …only Putin comes to mind.

        • C.O.Jones December 18, 2023 at 2:40 pm #

          I have long said that the United States needs a leader who loves the United States as much as Putin loves Russia.

          I don’t see one.

      • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 1:50 pm #

        He also said “and they let you”.

        That’s not being a bully. That’s speaking truthfully of some of the social circles he was in.

        It was a Bush working on a show that was probably CIA-backed who taped that and held on to it for eleven years.

        Imagine what else they have on other celebrity types.

        Anyone whjo knows very much about dating in NYC in the 90s was not all that shocked by what Trump said, although many pretended to be.

        • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 3:04 pm #

          He said “and they let you”, and he also talked about one woman who said “No”, and how he backed away.

          I see absolutely nothing wrong with what Trump said.

          The fact that millions of people went out on the streets in pussy hats because they were all worked up by the media, is a sobering example of how easy people are to manipulate.

          But I think that people screaming about how a wall would totally stop the invasion are also influenced by the media.
          Just a different part of the media.

          • pranah December 18, 2023 at 3:41 pm #

            Paula, I don’t see anything wrong with what he said either. I know a few pussy-hat people, and they’re humorless feminist liberal-types when it comes to men discussing how men see the world.

            Funny thing, women (at least women I know) have no problem referring to it as “pussy” themselves, if ever the occasion to refer to it arises. That or the correct anatomical terms. Btw, “pussy” is considered vulgar but not obscene. The OED says it’s “coarse slang.” So DJT wasn’t even disrespecting the puss by calling it the c-word, or any such. smh

          • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2023 at 11:14 pm #

            Yes pranah – the “P-word” amongst women is akin to the “N-word” amongst blacks – they can say it, we can’t (apparently).

  13. SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 10:54 am #

    I think it is very possible that Trump is holding all of his cards close to his vest. He is like that. Meanwhile, the blobsters have stripped themselves for the world to see lol. Though they still probably have many tricks hidden somewhere. Like a new pandemic, some sort of grid down scenario, etc. There’s many things they’ve sorta gamed out. In any case, the situation is beyond politics, the five stages of grief, and nervous laughter and awkward pauses at this point. It’s become more of a game of survival.

    • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 11:05 am #

      Trump is one against a million. The people spoke in 2016, and it was crushed by the Deep State.

      • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 11:06 am #

        Populism is the will of the majority, and is a bad word in the Deep State.

        • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 11:11 am #

          They’re kicking the can, if they can.

      • malthuss December 18, 2023 at 11:12 am #

        Trump was all for the vax.

        • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 11:16 am #

          But most forget the corollary. He was completely against mandates of any kind. The mandates are all the Biden regime.

          • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 11:31 am #

            He was against mandates, and we are supposed to praise him for that?

            Anybody pushing mandates deserves to HANG, and he’s against it so that’s praiseworthy.

            Talk about setting the bar low.

          • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 11:40 am #

            I live in reality, Beryl. You can’t expect to get everything you want. Your efforts are better spent upon taking what you have and getting the most out of it. Look, I don’t get paid for this but I feel like i’m becoming your life coach.

          • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 11:42 am #

            Trump was for the Vaxx as a way of showing he was doing something spectacular in an election year. If he had sat on his hands, Biden would have had a landslide instead of having to cheat to win.

            Yes, his ego has gotten the better of him regarding the Vaxx fast onset and his pushing the test program. Just think though, if anyone else had been there, what would they have done? If Biden had been there, we would have been jabbed with untested vaxxes with no options. Such is the attitude of the Liberal socialist, always believe what the PTB tell you.

            Trump should never have given control over Covid to Pence and Birx/Fauci.

            That was a yuge mistake.

          • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 11:48 am #

            Well John, just to put everything in perspective. You took the vax. So sure, hindsight is always 20/20. Yet, I also don’t blame Trump per se that Mike Pence for example is a grotesque, treasonous pig. But your point is very well taken. People are the policy and hiring choices can make or break a thing.

          • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2023 at 12:15 pm #

            Dreamy – Funny AF re: life coaching. Can’t stop laughing.

          • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 12:17 pm #

            SSL

            With a history of CAD and skin cancer and one heart attack and being 73 yo, I considered the risk trade off and took the vaxx. With the little bit of real data that was floating around at the time, it was a logical choice for me.

            Look back and find out who has been one of the biggest exposers of the toxic effects of the s protein and mRNA.

            ME!

          • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 12:33 pm #

            Glad it made you laugh Ron 🙂

          • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 12:35 pm #

            Yeah, no doubt John. You have been very critical. My point was just to reiterate that the best of us can be duped. You can’t always blame yourself or others for getting duped. Now you can definitely once they’ve discovered it and what they do about it ultimately. I’ve always said Trump should disavow the vax totally. I do think his ego is ultimately too big for that. It just is what it is.

          • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 1:19 pm #

            Thank you taking an interest in Beryl. I’ve tried, God knows I’ve tried. Maybe another woman can through to her.

          • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 1:55 pm #

            SSL

            My efforts are wasted if I accept throwing away the Bill of Rights and locking down America, with each governor deciding what level of tyranny they wish to impose, as okey doke because hey at least he didn’t order us to take a shot.

            Don’t tell me what is a good use of my time.

          • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 1:56 pm #

            Jarek you clearly aren’t doing your therapy

          • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 2:05 pm #

            SSL

            100% agree with your last. Trump should forget about his accelerated vaxx release and concentrate on investigating the real effects of Covid.

            Think about this, should Long Covid or autoimmune response qualify folks for SS disability? I partially blame my wife’s and my bout with Pertussis or Mycoplasma with Covid messing with our immune system. The same thing is going on in the UK, where I got my dose.We know almost nothing about Covid.

          • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 2:21 pm #

            Beryl, use your time as you wish. Not my business. But when you are engaging others in their time to consider your opinions and interjections then you should prepare yourself to recognize their investment of time as well. Perhaps you forget that a US President doesn’t have unilateral power. Additionally, show me the Republican that did anything for the Bill of Rights during the covid mania. I think you’ll be disappointed if you already are not. Situational awareness requires you admit where you are so that you can proceed in an optimal manner. Do with that what you want. I’ll manage my time and energy as I see fit as well.

    • OG December 18, 2023 at 11:17 am #

      Have you seen Netflix’ Leave the World Behind, SSL?

      I believe that they are clearly showing us what’s going to go down.

      They blocked freeway access, for example, by using self-driving cars to smash into one another resulting in an impossible barricade.

      At one point, the kids stand there and their shirts read:

      “OBEY” “NASA”

      Barack and Michelle Obama executive produce through their Higher Ground Productions banner.

      • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 11:26 am #

        I haven’t seen it. I don’t subscribe to Netflix. But the fact that they want everything to essentially be run with a smart grid does tell us that it isn’t being done for convenience or to make society better.

      • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2023 at 11:48 am #

        OG – a few other observations:

        1) Blatant messaging on distrusting Whites – obviously to promote more racial division.

        2) Cause unknown – no one knows the underlying cause – allowing for plausible deniability, when the Deep State decides to crash the grid. They are (purposely) under the wire already.

        All predictive programming.

        • malthuss December 18, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

          theres a film where a British Black gal saves the human race by having a baby..she is the only fertile female left on earth. the White rabble outside the train want to kill her.

          ‘CHILDREN OF MEN’.

        • OG December 18, 2023 at 1:54 pm #

          Good points, Ron.

          1) Yes, that seemingly was the m.o. of the attackers. Pull the internet, give the populace no possible pathway to the truth, then just sit back and watch the red ants versus black ants in the shaken jar.

          2) Right. I kept waiting for that info. “Korean” or “Iranian” or … rumours, theories and speculation – with no concrete facts. The uncertainty will drive the populace to turn on each other in an orgy of anarchy while TPTB watch the worst reality show ever.

          This Obama movie was both karmic ass-covering for them and predictive programming for us.

      • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

        OG

        Saw it and reported on it a couple of blogs ago.

        We have discussed many times the impact that an EMP might do to this country, IOW, how dependent we are on the damned wireless and computer. One way to thinks about that is how much the Deep State needs the internet, social media etc, to exert its power.

        JHK has been talking about the future localization of society when the SHTF. I think the movie expresses that well, in the getting together of the two diverse groups with common problems.

        I was shocked that the Obamas produced the movie, I wonder if he wasn’t putting out information that he is privy to as a warning.

        The book went on with the daughter bringing the folks into the shelter, but I thought the movie made more of an impact by leaving things hanging.

        I thought a major point was that the government was helpless to stop much of anything.

        Surprising in an Obama movie???

        • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2023 at 12:27 pm #

          “Producers” are typically understood as the financial backers. Writers and directors are more about the actual and specific content.

        • Mike Sherman December 18, 2023 at 8:00 pm #

          “I was shocked that the Obamas produced the movie, I wonder if he wasn’t putting out information that he is privy to as a warning.

          Is there no bottom to your propensity for self-gullibility, JohnAZ?

          • Paula D December 19, 2023 at 7:21 pm #

            Yes, Obama is no way putting out a warning.

            In his circles, predictive programming is used to show the masses what they have planned.

            If no one objects, they take that as permission to carry on with the plan.

      • Jimpa December 18, 2023 at 1:45 pm #

        Yes, I watched it too. A lot of commentators were describing how woke it was, incoherent and stupid. But it was worth watching I guess for the reasons you suggest. I think an internet shut down as depicted in the movie would probably make the 2024 elections impossible among many other things. It very well may be the next move of our overlords.
        One incoherent thing that I noticed is how the character most “in the know” said in the middle of the movie that there was nobody in charge, no conspiracy at the top and it was all just chaos. Then at the end of the movie he states it’s an elaborate plan to destroy the U.S. that he saw papers of from one of his clients. Well…..

        • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 2:11 pm #

          Woke?

          One comment by the Black daughter to not trust the White folks if the SHTF after Julia Robert’s had made an ass of herself not trusting the Black side.

          I would say that it was pretty even Steven.

          Yes, the financial backers, but definitely knew what was in the book.

          Obama said in the past that Biden was an idiot that never made a good foreign policy decision in 50 years. Is this movie what Obama may see for the future?

          • Jimpa December 18, 2023 at 2:34 pm #

            Yes, but Julia was such a Karen in the movie, depicting all the stereotypical white agression the woke love to talk about so much.

        • Rooftop Observer December 18, 2023 at 7:57 pm #

          “It very well may be the next move of our overlords.

          What an 8th-grade level of analysis. You should have started learning critical thinking way before then.

          Consider these questions, Jimpa:
          Why would ‘our overlords’ want to shut down the internet? Would it not require that ‘they’ (TPTB) have their own electronic network separate from the great masses operation, with independent sources of electric energy? How can this be hidden?
          What comes next? Where will this imaginary ‘move’ lead to anyway? What unintended consequences could arise?

          “Then at the end of the movie he states it’s an elaborate plan to destroy the U.S. that he saw papers of from one of his clients. Well…” – That’d be Night Owl, no doubt.

      • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 3:11 pm #

        Why do these movies always show Americans fleeing in their cars?

        Where are they going? Are they just going to drive until they run out of gas, and then some kind stranger will take them in?
        What is the point of driving really fast away from one particular place? Why is it never explained where they think they are going?

        I think the proper thing to do is hunker down where you are.

        Unless a fire is about to sweep over you, of course. But on the other hand, my parent’s old house in Paradise didn’t burn.
        And my daughter’s friend rented out his van in Lahaina (no shit, as a place to live), and the people who rented it left it in a Safeway parking lot and it also was not burned.
        So there’s that.

  14. SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 11:10 am #

    The biggest problem with the Right is the pervasive pessimism and defeatism that are like hallmark features and almost seem to be requirements. Reality is perception and perception is reality. Perhaps if you acted like winners and had the conviction that you were winners then maybe just maybe one day you’d find yourselves as winners.

    • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2023 at 11:56 am #

      Very nice Dreamy. All that’s needed is conviction. If they had the conviction that they were winners, they wouldn’t have to act. And yes, they’d find themselves winners. Too many perceive themselves as losers, and that becomes their reality. You’re so smart.

      • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 12:11 pm #

        Good morning, Ron. Thank you, you’re not too shabby yourself there lol. The only little caveat i’ll add is that they do still need to act. For sure. But why act in such a way where you already tell yourself you are completely obliterated? Isn’t that attitude gonna suck the life out of everything you’re doing?

        • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

          We elect people and then they don’t do what they say they will do. We protest and get stomped. Will we have to elect the Captain? The one who cavorts in the moonlight and rides a many legged steed?

          • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 2:13 pm #

            Captain Moonlight. That would be friggin awesome to see that name on the ballot!!

          • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 5:33 pm #

            No ballot but a cartridge in a bare tree.

          • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 10:43 pm #

            I’ll consider this little gem to be an early Christmas present. Thank you, you’re so thoughtful. 🙂

    • crudgemudgeon December 18, 2023 at 12:02 pm #

      Thank you. “If you think you are beaten, you are,”.

      • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 12:12 pm #

        You’re welcome, anytime. I always love being helpful.

    • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 12:04 pm #

      You are arguing denial, that things are fine?

      Denial by the silent majority was warne by Ford. Long ago.. The Right’s denial, that things will go poof and socialism would just go away is why we are where we are today.

      SSL. Human beings, by their nature, will always take the easy way out. That is the appeal the Left has, to promise to provide for everyone then renege on their promises.

      PT Barnum had it right.

  15. Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 11:12 am #

    What is Ms. James take on why all her predecessors failed to do something about Donald Trump’s lawlessness?

    Where they less skilled than she?

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    • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 11:33 am #

      They weren’t willing to address systemic racism. She ain’t playin that game.

    • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 12:06 pm #

      Lawlessness? Please name a few examples.

  16. lizharmon December 18, 2023 at 11:13 am #

    Nobody listened to the Meathead on AITF except maybe his wife and I’m not even sure about her. Given that, I’m not really concerned what he posts. He’s obviously working for someone. Maybe it’s Satan. As for Trump and Bobby, the Blob can get rid of them anytime it want’s to. The same goes for Cornpop. Given that impeachment isn’t really going anywhere (and I wish it was because the Reps are crafty instead of incompetent, but it is what it is) I expect Granddad to have a medical and a state funeral in the not too distant future. Maybe by Super Tuesday. How ironic would that be? Alas, I am afraid the republic has arleady fallen. If not, maybe opening up a Suez front in WW3 will do the trick. One can only hope at this point. For me, it’s about making deeper connections with my neighbors….the 40% or so who still have souls. The other 60% don’t know that they’re sitting on the doorstep of The Grifter’s winter of death and serious illness, but they did that to themselves.

  17. Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 11:15 am #

    Speaking of naked, DC_Draino on X reports that the Senate staffer who made gay porn in a hearing room also posted a picture of Miss Lindsey online with an obscene reference.

    • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 11:36 am #

      And so much of conservative media bends over for the next story lol. More refined commentators like our host simply don’t take that bait.

      • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 12:13 pm #

        Draino seems to be making a link between that story and the fact that Lindsey is saying there doesn’t seem to be any basis for impeaching Biden.

        When we Republicans voting in ways that defy explanation, there has to be a cause.

        • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 12:37 pm #

          Gotchya, the explanation being that Lindsey is compromised in a similar way and its being held over his head to extract useful votes. It is a good point.

          • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 2:39 pm #

            Yes. It wasn’t all about the smut.

          • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 3:14 pm #

            Everyone knows Miss Lindsey is gay. It makes no difference.

            I don’t believe in blackmail any more.

            If they want you there, you can literally kill babies, and you will be fine.

            If they don’t want you there, they will make up some bullshit story about child porn on your computer, and you will be out.

        • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 1:26 pm #

          Trump too, maybe? The parties? The island? Asking to see a girl’s license is such a buzz kill.

          • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 2:41 pm #

            No. The reason the brought up Epstein in NY was to try to pin something on Trump, but they failed.

            Then they were stuck with a show trial.

  18. BigJake December 18, 2023 at 11:36 am #

    This lovefest with Kennedy is utterly bizarre. He’s a gawd—- Demonrat. Rule #1 in modern American politics: NEVER EVER trust a Demonrat. EVER.

    Kennedy is a viper.

    • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

      You forget- he left the Democrats. He’s still a shitlib though. He is making a big effort to learn, but he still comes up with horrible lib ideas like reparations.

      He was putting more thought into Higher Ed, and doing better than his first idea that the government should get more involved.

      After seeing what has happened to places like Harvard and Stanford, maybe people can at least start to entertain the idea that people who spent large sums of money for degrees from these places were defrauded in some manner?

      Nah.

      • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 12:12 pm #

        He is still a divide and conquer Democrat, kow-towing to the minorities.

      • BackRowHeckler December 18, 2023 at 1:19 pm #

        JAZ, you’re not going to get everything you want in any Pol.

        RFK, jr. is a worthy candidate.

        • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 2:42 pm #

          Reparations and falling for the climate hoax make him unworthy.

          Also pretending not to see what is going on with the January 6 defendants.

      • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 1:28 pm #

        He’s for putting Blacks over Whites even more than they already are. So was (is?) Trump.

  19. Zoltar December 18, 2023 at 11:43 am #

    What do I think? I think that The Blob WILL NOT permit Trump back into the Oval Office, and will stop at nothing to prevent that.

    The redoubtable Whitney Webb reports that The Blob has for years been war-gaming a domestic cyberattack that can be blamed on China, that will shut down the country and seem to warrant the imposition of martial law.

    In that event, “Joe Biden” can continue to appear to be President and The Blob can earn the gushing gratitude of credulous Americans for permitting us access to our bank accounts again, after they have “saved us.”

    Look for it some time next fall, by which time Biden’s poll numbers will have slumped into single digits.

    • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 3:28 pm #

      Look on the bright side. If the internet is down, we’ll be spared the hysterics of the usual suspects who believe any and all anti-China propaganda.

      • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2023 at 4:45 pm #

        Good point, Paula.

  20. Forced-to-subsist-on-small-game December 18, 2023 at 12:01 pm #

    There are no good choices to be made out there, now. In keeping with what you’d expect from a decline-and-fall situation. Scumbags on the Left, Scumbags on the Right. No center option. A world of putrefying extremes.

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    • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

      Can you name one individual whose theme is the eradication of the Left and the RINOs. Listen to Trump right now, he is bringing some heavy shit down on both sides.

      If your main objective is the socialization of the US, you have got to destroy Trump. Politically.

      How? By dividing the conservative side, just like everything else the Left does. The biggest enemy of the continuance of this 20th century republic is the subservience of the RINO contingent.

      • C.O.Jones December 18, 2023 at 12:18 pm #

        I agree with your point about the RINO contingent, JohnAZ.

        22 years ago, I said if the perpetrators of 9/11 were not held accountable, they would go on to further betrayals. Enabled and encouraged by RINOs, they have done exactly that.

        If the perpetrators of the Covid scam are not held accountable we can be assured of further depredations. Rand Paul has blown hot air at Fauci and that is all. That is all RINOs are good for.

        • OG December 18, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

          COJ: Do you care to weigh-in with your GLT score?

          GLT:
          For each of these 10 major historical events, score a 1 if you believe that it was a black op and a 0 if you believe the official story.

          JFK ~ 1963
          USS Liberty ~ 1967
          MLK ~ 1968
          RFK ~ 1968
          Apollo Moon Missions ~ 1969-1972
          OKC ~ 1995
          9/11 ~ 2001
          Boston Marathon ~ 2013
          Vegas Turkey-Shoot ~ 2017
          10/7 [“Israel’s 9/11”] – 2023

          What is your score?

          ***
          We currently have 10 public GLT scores:

          10 – OG, Jarek, tuco22, Alfred, JimiInFlorida2.0, SSL
          9 – getsome
          2 – Ely
          1 – Gus
          0 – tom clark

          • RD3 December 18, 2023 at 1:51 pm #

            9

            I haven’t really investigated the matter, but I think its possible that those two inbred Muslim tards might have acted outside of the CIA’s terror program in Boston.

          • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 2:01 pm #

            SSL is 10,000. As a male presenting Time Lord, OG can only record her as a 10.

            RD: Bravo for submitting your score. Without cooperation, how can we attain unto the stars? As Paula might say, Dare to vote for Stalin!

          • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 2:12 pm #

            That’s J’s nice way of saying I’m out in orbit 😉

          • C.O.Jones December 18, 2023 at 2:59 pm #

            OG – I had not seen this GLT thing before – what does GLT stand for?

            Put me down as a 10. I would have been a 9 until I read an analysis of the Apollo sound stage. Shadows don’t fall the way they are depicted in the “official” photos.

            The Vegas turkey shoot is another thing Trump probably turned over to his daughter to handle because he was busy tweeting about what a great job he was doing. I have never heard a viable explanation for the gunners on the rooftop or the helicopter. Another incidence of the public buying the lone wolf theory.

            Yeah – 10 for me.

          • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 3:21 pm #

            If you believe the Official Story that those two inbred tards blew up the Marathon, you don’t get a point, in my opinion.

            Here’s a giant clue. They told us that the bombs were in black backpacks, and then they showed us security camera footage of the boy’s backpacks, and one of them was white.

            Whose backpacks were black? The mercenaries that were there.

            They locked down the entire city of Boston to look for a teenager, because he might have a gun????

            Seriously? How could anyone fall for that? Like no other teenager in Boston is armed?

            Everyone has to be locked down for that? It was worse than covid. Not only did everyone have to stay inside, the cops were kicking down doors and searching houses.
            And there was no transportation moving.

            The whole thing was foreshadowing. The boys were just patsies.

          • Zoltar December 18, 2023 at 4:45 pm #

            10

          • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 5:31 pm #

            Nonsense, SSL. You are burning the evil ones with fire from high orbit. From the Earth’s pov, the Sun revolves around the Earth.

          • OG December 18, 2023 at 5:34 pm #

            Thanks for weighing in, Zoltar. I have updated our master file accordingly.

          • RD3 December 18, 2023 at 9:34 pm #

            Paula,

            You know much more about it than I do. I was out of the country when it happened and I didn’t spend one minute researching or investigating it. Plus, I dislike the City of Boston with a heated passion and I wouldn’t care if the place was wiped off the map tomorrow.

            I didn’t say that I believed the official story, only that out of the ten, that one could have been something that snuck past even the CIA terrorists. An older friend of mine said he stopped believing anything the US government said when he was 8 years old and Ike swore that the US wasn’t flying spy missions over the USSR. The Soviets immediately produced Francis Gary Powers whom they had shot down in Soviet airspace. I have no problem believing that the whole thing was a black ops, I just never really cared. There are other far more interesting ones throughout history.

          • WadeWaters December 19, 2023 at 11:05 am #

            10

      • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

        RINOS is a bullshit concept. This is what Republicans are: money grubbing grifters. Conservative as in conserving their portfolios. Other people means other members of their class. The base is seen as cattle.

    • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 12:19 pm #

      Let me help you. You are living within a myth. There is no center and there never has been. You live on a swinging pendulum. What you’re feeling is all of the various forces working for its forward motion and those working against it. Iow, time would have to literally stop for there to be a center. Relax, get your bearings and proceed. You’re welcome. Like I said earlier, I don’t even charge for my dazzling clarifications lol.

      • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2023 at 12:32 pm #

        You’re on fire this morning. “Waiter, I’ll have what she had for breakfast.”

      • beantownbill. December 18, 2023 at 12:45 pm #

        @SSL:

        Sometimes (often) you show me you’re a smart cookie, SSL. Keep up the good work.

        If I ever get the chance to go to Baton Rouge again, maybe we could have lunch. Yeah, I’ve been there several times for business. But don’t worry, I’ve retired, so I probably don’t need to go again. However, never say never.

        • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 2:10 pm #

          I’d like that Bill. Would love to connect with likeminded people. Hoping to meet a super prepper around these parts at some point to collaborate with but not sure if that is in the cards.

          • gustafson.robert.22 December 18, 2023 at 2:42 pm #

            The deeper into the bayou, the better.

          • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 2:53 pm #

            I know. I’m gonna have to get over my princess ways and get in the mud. i’m really trying.

      • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 1:34 pm #

        True. The center is ever unstable in capitalism/communism. Socialism was the unstable mid-point but now it’s swinging towards Communism or Neo-Conservative Republicanism – both hands of the Beast.

        Fascism is a higher line. Nationalism. What the Dutch people chose when they elected Geert. Is it too late to save themselves against a Globalist order that wants them dead?

        • BackRowHeckler December 18, 2023 at 2:45 pm #

          Like I said before Jarek nations run on fascistic principles have mixed results, at best. Italy, Spain, Portugal, Argentina, & Bolivia to name the most prominent … all attained a certain level of prosperity. Better than communism, but nothing to write home about

          • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 5:28 pm #

            Think how much Northern Europe will do with it or National Socialism. Look at China! It’s not National Socialist now, not Communist. Communism doesn’t allow private enterprise and billionaires. Don’t play that.

          • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 5:28 pm #

            correction: It IS National Socialist now.

  21. WadeWaters December 18, 2023 at 12:13 pm #

    Rob Reiner is truly brain-dead.

  22. WadeWaters December 18, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

    The Blob

    “Listen, and understand. That terminator is out there. It can’t be bargained with. It can’t be reasoned with. It doesn’t feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.”

  23. U R IntheVillage December 18, 2023 at 12:45 pm #

    I’m not sure who controls the intelligence agencies, but the intelligence agencies control the Uniparty. Think about it – the technology available to them means they know EVERYTHING about every member of congress, every judge, every person occupying a position of any importance. Everyone from senators to Supreme Court Justices.

    The intelligence agencies can destroy anyone at any time. Ninety-nine percent of these officials have much to hide and no inclination to take on a battle with the system. That Trump has survived to date indicates he has an exceptionally thick skin and that has actually not committed any real crimes, nor any critically embarrassing behavior. They are inventing the most ludicrous charges now in a final attempt to drive a stake through his heart, because, like the Terminator, he just won’t quit.

    Yes, he screwed up the Covid response because he had, like nearly everyone in the US used to have, complete faith in the medical system. Who would have thought Fauci et al were as corrupt as everyone else in the swamp? Big Pharma leapt for joy when he said he wanted to skip all the testing crap that he just saw as government inefficiency, rather than an actual medical necessity. He even likened the approval process to getting a real estate construction permit; full of what he surmised was bureaucratic bullshit. So the mRNA weapon cleared the hurdles in record time, thereby accelerating the agendas of the (?CCP; WEF; who knows) evil one(s) by years.

    I don’t think he was in on it, but he unwittingly helped them tremendously.

    I think his appointments of all these holdovers were due to his belief that if he called these people into his office and asked them if they would help him clean the swamp, he could trust their answers (and his judgement as to their veracity).
    Stupid assumption in retrospect.

    I suspect that no matter what, they won’t let him have a second term. If by some miracle he survives the legal problems they are currently pursuing, and they become afraid that they cannot cheat enough in the election to prevail, they will conclude they simply have to take him out ala JFK. Yes, it will be transparent to all, but having control of the Dept of Justice as well as the Senate and the MSM, they will weather the storm.

    Organized resistance is next to impossible since they monitor all communications.

    I hope I’m wrong and the optimists are right.

    • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 1:39 pm #

      ‘Fraid so. Look at what Israel is doing. They don’t care what people think. They mean to win. They’ll blitz the media in the decades to come until people see it their way.

      Same thing here. Keeping in power is what matters. Then you can write the official history. The tree may die. Indeed it is thirsty for the blood of patriots and tyrants. But as Florida man reminded us, a dead tree can stand for many years. Look at the Soviet Union. Few loved it or believed, but it stood for generations.

    • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 3:30 pm #

      I agree about the covid vaccine. He definitely equated medical trials which evaluate safety and efficacy with building permits which slowed down his projects.

  24. RD3 December 18, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

    “What do you think?”

    I think the fact that most of the elected officials involved in the trumped-up Trump illegalities are unqualified black women is an intentional “fuck you” to white America. That’s what I think .

    • RUfuckinKidding? December 18, 2023 at 7:40 pm #

      What a dumb-ass thing to say. Actually, there’re three dumb-ass things.

      The charges are not ‘trumped up’. The black women in elected office who are the butt of your racist rant are NOT unqualified, and finally, quit it with the whining ‘white-boy-being-unfairly-treated’ bullshit. If you choose to wear victimhood as your overcoat this winter, at least patch up the holes.

  25. BULLITT December 18, 2023 at 1:17 pm #

    As I read comments today and, in the past, I feel that most people on this site are well educated and well spoken, some more than others. I believe that we all tend to trust people who seem reasonable and have your best interests in mind. But remember, only 50% of all marriages work. It’s not a perfect world where what you believe in always is true. We have all been kids and believed in Santa Claus.
    I believed in President Trump, and I still believe he “could” make a difference. The question is, will he have enough support to really make a difference. We have the numbers to defeat the “BLOB”. We don’t need to take out all of them but if a few get a harsh message the others will watch their step. Trump will need to make an example of a few of the back stabbers.
    If Director Ray gets a life sentence for treason, the next Director will certainly keep clean. Trust is a big word. People may not like it but we need some really tough love in this Country.

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    • RUfuckinKidding? December 18, 2023 at 7:37 pm #

      Trust IS a big word. I would not trust Drumpf. Not as far as I could throw the fat asshole.

  26. Roundball Shaman December 18, 2023 at 1:17 pm #

    “In the Game of Strip Poker, Someone Ends Up Naked”

    ‘You will be NAKED… and LOVE IT!?’. Or is it…

    ‘You will own nothing and LIKE IT!’
    ‘You will be broke and without good spirit but be SO VERY HAPPY!’
    ‘You will eat bugs and WANT MORE! – YUM!’
    ‘You will lose all your rights but feel SO POWERFUL!’
    ‘You will look at a small box of dancing pixels all day but feel SO ALIVE!’
    ‘You will take Pharma poisons but feel so HEALTHY!’
    ‘You will be homeless but feel SO AT HOME THERE!’
    ‘You will spend more time rooting for your favorite NFL team than you will figuring out how to make your LIFE BETTER!’

    SOME kinds of nakedness are pretty nice and fun. Other kinds of nakedness just leave the whole of you vulnerable and without protection and feeling ashamed and weak – the way the Elitist Class wants us do be.

    As others have said… sometimes the only way to win a game is not to play it at all. Don’t allow yourself to be a pawn in a rigged game you can’t win. Find another game.

    DON’T play… any game ‘They’ have a ‘Monopoly’ on.

    And don’t count on any 6-D ‘Chess’ being played by a guy with Orange hair.

    We aren’t living in some kind of ‘Candy Land’ today. Survival in These Times is no ‘Trivial Pursuit’. And many of us don’t seem to have a ‘Clue’.

    Seems like we’re all stuck on a ‘Battleship’. But don’t let Them turn your brain into some kind of ‘Scrabble’. And never listen to Fact ‘Checkers’.

    Don’t live a life of ‘Solitaire’. And don’t wait to find a good partner until you’re an ‘Old Maid’.

    We need to stop making ‘War’ and spend much more time to ‘Go Fish’.

    There’s only one way to prosper these days. Find your ‘Hearts’… build a ‘Bridge’ to others… and then – and only then – can you ever be numero… ‘Uno’.

    And put some clothes on. (Well, maybe not ALL of us…)

    • beantownbill. December 18, 2023 at 1:40 pm #

      I almost always read your posts. You are clever, like in the above comment. Just wanted to tell you are appreciated. Keep ‘em coming!

    • Ron Anselmo December 18, 2023 at 4:55 pm #

      “‘You will look at a small box of dancing pixels all day but feel SO ALIVE!’” ~ Roundball Shaman

      …small *magic* box of dancing pixels… – FIFY

      Personally, I’m also way down with the no more war, and much more fishing.

      Second Bill’s comments, 100%.

  27. beantownbill. December 18, 2023 at 1:19 pm #

    I’m not a Dem, for goodness sakes, but I’ll never vote for Trump. I don’t get why many of you want him to win, other than desperation. He’s loud, brash, unnecessarily uncouth, unwise, and politically inept – just look at his first term. You let yourself hope he’d make a positive difference, when all indications are that being a 2nd term president would be a repeat of the 1st. You don’t have to worry about the actions of the Dems, he’ll hurt us on his own. I don’t dislike him – actually I rather like him. After all, he’s a real estate man.

    IMO, protesting by not voting is being patriotic.

    Most important is to not let your feelings about the future control you. Taking care of yourself and your loved ones is primary.

    • dilbert113 December 18, 2023 at 1:47 pm #

      You honestly don’t know why people want President Trump back in office? Under Trump we had low inflation, low interest rates, low gas prices, very low unemployment, Putin was afraid to make any moves into Ukraine, the President of North Korea actively sought peace wtih the South, and so much more. . . .under Biden we have ruinously high inflation, high gas prices, high electricity and natural gas prices, a bad economy, high and ever-rising interest rates, pushing up mortgage payments and preventing many young people from being able to afford to buy a home, multiple wars have broken out crime is skyrocketing. ..was your post meant as some kind of a joke? Surely you cannot seriously be asking why people would vote for President Trump? Been to the grocery store lately, checked your 401k, pumped some gas?

      • JohnAZ December 18, 2023 at 2:23 pm #

        Wow. Thank you Dilbert.

        I do not understand why folks could ever consider that voting against a Progressive candidate is a bad thing. Trump at his worst is a 1000% better than the alternative.

        If you believe that the Federal government is destroying our country, you only have one choice.

        • beantownbill. December 18, 2023 at 6:02 pm #

          1000% of zero is still zero. Just my humble opinion. Actually I wave several choices.

        • Mike Sherman December 18, 2023 at 7:21 pm #

          That’s an ENORMOUS “if”, JohnAZ.

      • beantownbill. December 18, 2023 at 5:51 pm #

        @dilbert:

        Except for gains in productivity, any non-zero inflation rate is destructive to an economy. You have to be aware of how a mathematic exponential function works. Look at a graph of any exponential function, extend it over time and you will see. In that regard, Trump was probably less damaging than a typical Democrat, but damaging nevertheless. Even so, we don’t know the actual inflation rate, as the government’s figures are purposely inaccurate.

        Interest rates are effectively set by the Federal Reserve, not the president.

        Trump was so bad picking senior staff he was betrayed by them multiple times.

        I know you appear to like Politician Trump, but that’s just your opinion, just like me not wanting him elected again is my opinion..

        • Mike Sherman December 18, 2023 at 7:21 pm #

          “…just like me not wanting him elected again is my opinion.

          Yay, BTB.

      • RUfuckinKidding? December 18, 2023 at 7:34 pm #

        Dilbert – (are you in fact Scott Adams?)

        “Under Trump we had low inflation, low interest rates, low gas prices, very low unemployment, Putin was afraid to make any moves into Ukraine, the President of North Korea actively sought peace with the South, and so much more” This is an historical coincidence. Obama had got the US economy back into shape after the devastation of the Bush-Cheney war-fest and Global Financial Meltdown which almost saw everybody destitute if Obama hadn’t taken the actions he did. It’s trivial to note that eh rest of the West had similarly productive and fruitful years post-GF Crisis.

        …under Biden we have ruinously high inflation, high gas prices, high electricity and natural gas prices, a bad economy, high and ever-rising interest rates, pushing up mortgage payments and preventing many young people from being able to afford to buy a home, multiple wars have broken out crime is skyrocketing. ..

        Again, you’re missing the point. Biden had to deal with the financial aftermath of COVID and you would also note (if you bothered to look around, outside the USA) that the rest of the world also suffered high inflation, rising energy costs, increasing mortgage rates and the rest. All of these things have been brought under control already, after just 3 years of the Biden Administration, plus phenomenal job growth and wage growth. Are these BAD things?

        Also, lest we forget, Drumpf raised the National Debt by $8 trillion in just 4 years, which JohnAZ will certainly call ‘inflationary’. But wait – didn’t he promise to repay the National Debt? Funny way to go about it…but then, if you believe anything Drumpf has to say, he also has bridge to sell you.

        • Paula D December 19, 2023 at 3:24 pm #

          Obama did not fix the economy. Obama handed trillions to the money changers, while millions of people who couldn’t pay their mortgages were thrown out of their homes.

          Obama’s Attorney General, who had helped set up the main illegal electronic mortgage transfers, which made the entire credit derivative financial crimes possible, refused to prosecute the Robo-signers who went back and retroactively forged documents.

          Obama is a criminal who facilitated financial crimes and further enriched the elite by stealing from the working class.

          FDR showed how to handle banking criminals. And his banking reforms helped keep the US system relatively honest right up until Reagan and Clinton destroyed them.

          “Primarily this is because the rulers of the exchange of mankind’s goods have failed, through their own stubbornness and their own incompetence, have admitted their failure, and abdicated. Practices of the unscrupulous money changers stand indicted in the court of public opinion, rejected by the hearts and minds of men…..

          “True they have tried, but their efforts have been cast in the pattern of an outworn tradition. Faced by failure of credit they have proposed only the lending of more money. Stripped of the lure of profit by which to induce our people to follow their false leadership, they have resorted to exhortations, pleading tearfully for restored confidence. They know only the rules of a generation of self-seekers. They have no vision, and when there is no vision the people perish.

          The money changers have fled from their high seats in the temple of our civilization. We may now restore that temple to the ancient truths. The measure of the restoration lies in the extent to which we apply social values more noble than mere monetary profit.”

          Faced with a failure of credit, the Jamie Dimons pleaded for more credit, and Obama was more than happy to oblige.

          It is amazing that anyone, let alone a self-identified liberal, would ignore that kind of blatant favoritism and illegality.

          They put the whole bailout on the national debt, to boot.
          They profit and we pay, same as with the MIC and Big Pharma.

          • RUfuckinKidding? December 19, 2023 at 6:46 pm #

            Simply put, 2 terms of Clinton (a Republican pretending to be a Democrat) and 2 terms of Bush, meant that the agenda that brought us to 2008 and the GFC started in 1980 and was grown from seed by ‘conservatives’. Thanks, guys.

            Then the same Masters of the Universe, having made obscene profits for years, begged the Federal Government to bail them out, and in doing so, softened greatly the impact on the Main Street sector. Sure, it was tough but it could have been soooooo much worse. What would YOU have done?

            As to the corruption & looting of the vulnerable, well, that’s America all over, isn’t it? Basically, there is a whole cohort of smart & savvy grifters who seize any opportunity, based on the philosophy of “I’ve got mine, so you can get fucked”.

          • Paula D December 19, 2023 at 7:29 pm #

            I post the words of FDR, who faced the same banking criminals, and did something about it, and you feign ignorance, and whine that nothing can be done?

            Pass strong banking laws, refuse to bail out the rich, and put Americans to work building the infrastructure we rely on to this day.
            That’s what they did back then.

            There are still Americans around who know how to enforce the laws, if they were allowed to do so.
            Bill Black comes to mind.

            But you ignore US history, preferring to feign ignorance of what was done, and what was subsequently destroyed, while wringing your hands and pretending that we can do nothing in the face of psychopathic criminal behavior, while millions of Americans suffer?

            Shame on you.

    • malthuss December 18, 2023 at 1:47 pm #

      The USA economy was better under him and he played underdog.

    • WadeWaters December 18, 2023 at 2:17 pm #

      You’re not the brightest bulb on the tree.

    • BULLITT December 18, 2023 at 3:29 pm #

      beantown,

      Thanks for your no vote. How about every TRUMP supporter just stay home on election day. Let’s get four more years of Biden. In that period of time, you can have the satisfaction of knowing you determined your own fate. Are you waiting for someone with some intestinal fortitude to fix things for you?
      BTW, Patriots vote. Yes, the system isn’t perfect but that’s our fault. Not voting tells the PTB that voting is no longer necessary.
      Don’t be a fool!

      • beantownbill. December 18, 2023 at 5:30 pm #

        Bullitt, the thing is, and why I don’t vote, is that it makes no difference who is president or who is in Congress. Haven’t we had national elections since the end of the 18th century where citizens have voted, yet nothing is going very well? You worry about Biden getting re-elected, when there’s no effective and honest administrative individuals or congressmen able to win and then serve.

  28. OldJarhead03 December 18, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

    I believe in about 1980 it was Rush Limbaugh who said,
    “The way to know what the left is doing is to listen to what they accuse others of doing.”
    This also applies to what they are planning, and nothing has changed in the ensuing 43 years.

    • Mike Sherman December 18, 2023 at 7:18 pm #

      So, what you (and Limbaugh) are saying is that the Democrats – the “Left” – are transparent. This is a good thing.

      Funny though how it’s equally transparent on the Right now too – Drumpf says he’ll throw people in camps and go after media that doesn’t go North Korean on him. It would be a fucking shitshow. Good job he won’t win – again.

      • Paula D December 18, 2023 at 8:36 pm #

        Trump said that he would throw people in camps?

        Trump said that he would go after media that doesn’t “go North Korean on him”?

        I call bullshit.

        • Mike Sherman December 18, 2023 at 9:14 pm #

          Clearly, you’re not paying attention.

          Camps for immigrants:

          youtube.com/watch?v=kPpDProUpVk

          Going after the media:

          youtube.com/watch?v=_1CNirz5aB0

          • Paula D December 19, 2023 at 3:39 pm #

            Immigrants? Aren’t they refugees?

            Refugee camps are the proper place for refugees. Or are you admitting that they aren’t really refugees?

            As for the fevered imaginations of MSNBC reporters, I scoff.

            THESE are real threats. And guess who wasn’t prosecuted over them?

            .youtube.com/watch?v=7yYplnEkbqU&t=28s

          • Mike Sherman December 19, 2023 at 6:36 pm #

            Very confusing Paula D. The link takes one to some clips that are smashing your MAGAt ideals & Majorie Trainwreck Green to boot.

      • Mike Sherman December 19, 2023 at 8:02 pm #

        A global shitshow…

        youtube.com/watch?v=2vqzLFpHkOU

  29. Jarek December 18, 2023 at 1:58 pm #

    Lamers are always the majority. Thus if Ireland depends on Democracy, it is probably doomed. And even if the Nation Party (catchy eh?) somehow explodes, so what? They’ll ban it just as Greece banned the Golden Dawn and Belgium, Vlams Blok. It’s the Captain or nothing, volks.

    The Dutch have an very, very strong tradition of Democracy. Somehow Geert Wilders got in. Will he make the most of it or Trump it? Morally, he would be justified in suspending Democracy until the crisis was over – which means the immigrants gone. That will take the rest of his life.

    Not all dictators are created equal. Some are Emperors! Spiritual Kings. You want to play dice with the guy who is going to save your people and nation, the two being one? Are you on crack or something?

    As always, Erdogan: Democacy is a bus. You get off at your stop. The Dutch have arrived. Get off the fucking bus for awhile.

    • RD3 December 18, 2023 at 2:07 pm #

      The key, for someone like Wilders, is to act quickly and recklessly. Better to go way too far than to end up an inch short.

    • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 2:09 pm #

      Lol, sometimes i too struggle to know when its time to get off the fucking bus. Honestly it was crappy ride for the most part so the stop is welcome. Time to make the most of it. Let’s hope Geert and the Dutch feel the same.

    • Jarek December 18, 2023 at 2:26 pm #

      He has lived without a home for more than a decade, I believe. Under constant threat from Muslim terror, and always traveling with security. A very great man, the kind that is almost unknown now. Not a capitalist grifter or communist bureaucrat. A Nationalist who has put his very life on the line for his People and Nation.

  30. Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 2:21 pm #

    Here’s the deal- the reason I voted for Donald Trump, the loud, brash, obnoxious builder from Queens, Noo Yawk (and btw if you told the 19 million or so people of Queens that Trump was all those things they might not know what you were talking about) was he was talking about the things I was seeing happening to this country.

    He started out doing great. He got bogged down, not all of it was his fault.

    Then came 2020 and the Wuhan flu and I could see what they were doing with this thing and so could he, at first.

    Many unfortunately could not.

    I did my damnedest to get the word out, even as we saw the strongest voices censored by our own governments.

    I did not back down, I did not give up, and I made a difference.

    A small difference.

    It is one of the finest things I have ever taken part in.

    What if, when we all saw our president going down what we knew was the wrong path, if we had all stood up with one voice and told him, if you keep on doing what you are doing, no second term for you?

    Could we have turned things around?

    My own brother died because he thought the vaxx that Trump keeps trumpeting as safe and effective was just that.

    People are dying, being irreversibly harmed by this foul concoction which is still being pushed, and I am supposed to be happy that Trump never said it should be forced on anybody, take what you can get.

    WHAT?

    Never.

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    • RD3 December 18, 2023 at 2:23 pm #

      “(and btw if you told the 19 million or so people of Queens that Trump was all those things they might not know what you were talking about”

      They wouldn’t know what you were talking about because they don’t speak English.

      • Beryl of Oyl December 18, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

        That too.

    • Socrates-Detroit December 18, 2023 at 4:24 pm #

      My condolences to you for the loss of your brother.

      It’s possible, it’s likely, the COVID hysteria was meant ensure Trump’s defeat.

      The lockdowns put people in an angry mood. The (superficially) good economy got derailed. Small businesses closed.

      That cost Trump votes.

      Perhaps importantly, the voting system was tampered with–permanently in many states (like CFS Michigan). All these mail-in ballots. That generated votes for Biden, I believe (I can’t prove it. But in Michigan, the “monitors” in Detroit and other urban Democrat precincts could observe…from 30 feet away. Please!!!!)

      Trump mis-handled it the pandemic.

      A politically indifferent friend, probably a Democrat, said “I bet we got COVID to make sure Trump doesn’t win again”, and to my surprise, she said she would vote for Trump because of that.

      Perhaps Trump was the Manchurian Candidate–or he was very clever, as over three decades, he sounded like Patrick Buchanan. Playboy interviews. Late night TV. Larry King. “We’re paying for their defense… they invest in factories and outcompete us…. I saw lots of Mercedes in NY, but not many Cadillacs or Chevys in Germany”. The Apprentice.

      He’s a clever man. He had potential. He was less bad than his predecessors, but a disappointment for me (though LESS of a disappointment).

      The Donald is tainted now, with his words and actions. RFK is tainted with several of his (supposed) words about global warming and Palestine.

      They both have more redeeming value than Biden or any of the others, and it’s possible they may buck the system on something or other if they win.

      It’s also possible that they will cancel each other out (if Trump is the GOP nominee, and RFK actually gets on the ballot as an Independent in most states), and the empty-brained apparition will be re-elected. Or not.

      One thing is for sure: the President is the most powerful political entity in the US, and things look very grim in that area.

      The Congress is bought and paid for by various lobbies, most of which OVERLAP: the military, military/industrial complex, Wall Street, big Pharma, AIPAC.

      Rand Paul succeeded in bringing a motion to remove US troops from (illegally occupied) Syria… all of THIRTEEN Senators supported it. It’s just easier to pocket yours, serve your campaign contributors and try to alter the wrong ward course of this country and get swamped by a tidal wave of money against you.

      So, slow decline it is…for now.

      How did it happen? “Gradually then suddenly, boom”

  31. Htruth December 18, 2023 at 2:52 pm #

    just now
    Edit

    Sallie Mae The Banksters and the student loan scam: https://americanyellowvest.wordpress.com

  32. docmartin December 18, 2023 at 3:22 pm #

    Hey y’all, I’m donating free boxes of Kleenex to all you angry circle jerkers in the comment section! The anger some of you display obviously goes back to the psychological trauma of your miserable childhoods.

    • gustafson.robert.22 December 18, 2023 at 3:29 pm #

      We can only speculate as to why you’re in possession of so much kleenex.

      • Soul Forensics December 18, 2023 at 4:23 pm #

        LOL!

    • BULLITT December 18, 2023 at 3:33 pm #

      Doc,
      Somebody in this Country better get angry and real soon! This shit show can’t go on forever.
      The people on this site aren’t angry. They are making excuses!
      Maybe it’s time to say we’ve had enough of this bullshit.

    • OG December 18, 2023 at 4:36 pm #

      Nothing says “class” quite like a man trying his darnedest to make people suffering from “the psychological trauma of [their] miserable childhoods” worse.

      First, do no harm, doc.

  33. Soul Forensics December 18, 2023 at 4:44 pm #

    Switching to Canadian federal elections, a new poll just out shows that 69% of Canadians think that Trudeau should resign in 2024 ahead of the next circus time in my country.

  34. OG December 18, 2023 at 4:59 pm #

    OG – I had not seen this GLT thing before – what does GLT stand for?
    – COJ

    GLT = Gullibility Litmus Test

    ***
    Thanks to COJ and RD3 for weighing in and getting our public GLT scores up to a full dozen:

    10 – OG, Jarek, tuco22, Alfred, JimiInFlorida2.0, SSL, C.O.Jones
    9 – getsome, RD3
    2 – Ely
    1 – Gus
    0 – tom clark

    Everyone else remains bashful.

    ***
    PaulaD, your informed post upthread regarding Boston (2013) makes me speculate that you have a high GLT score yourself. I’d be pleased to add it to the others if you so chose to share it with our board.

    • OG December 18, 2023 at 5:21 pm #

      Please note that our data (albeit with only 12 data points so far) supports my hypothesis that the GLT will display a bizarre (for statistical populations) double Bell-Curves distribution. That is, the extremes (0-2 and 8-10) are populated while the “middle ground” (3-7) is like the wind-swept prairie.

      • Jarek December 19, 2023 at 12:36 am #

        Normies are a cult dwelling beneath the line in a negative Church dome.

        In other words, -10. That’s where they are. Your postiive test can’t find most of them. You have to increase the scale to +/-10.

        Reality is sine wave.

        • OG December 19, 2023 at 2:36 pm #

          A sine wave! Brilliant, BK! Thx.

          Hypothetically, I could start each subject at -5, score it the same and we’d end up with your sine wave going from -5 to 5.

          I will not actually change the simple GLT scoring but I now, in my mind’s eye, see that the second Bell Curve is inverted from the first.

          • Jarek December 21, 2023 at 1:27 pm #

            Bishop Sheen spoke about the rise of the Ape Church, which has come true. We could also speak of the Ape Society in general.

            Satan cannot create but only imitate and destroy.

    • Mike Sherman December 18, 2023 at 7:13 pm #

      “Everyone else remains bashful.

      Everyone else remains extremely bored by OG’s “GLT”

      • elysianfield December 18, 2023 at 7:54 pm #

        Mike,
        Maybe not. In what we could describe as the CFN communal locker room, a small GLiT is not considered a positive.

        • OG December 18, 2023 at 8:28 pm #

          Atta boy, Ely. You rock your 2 with pride notwithstanding being surrounded by 9s and 10s.

          • elysianfield December 18, 2023 at 8:48 pm #

            OG,
            Just because I have a small GLiT does not mean that I am not a good person. Lots of guys have small GLiTs, and yet lead decent, productive lives.

            I, of course, would like a larger GLiT, and have tried, by various means, to increase my size…but reality intrudes. I realize that the solution to my small(ish) GLiT can be found on the Internets…various sites promote a solution….”Increase your GLit” size in the privacy of your own home”, and other come-ons. Were I but to suspend good judgment? Perhaps….

          • Soul Forensics December 18, 2023 at 8:58 pm #

            A 10 GLiT? Not gonna cut it in the haybarn.

            Blacks have 12-gauge GLiTs.

          • OG December 18, 2023 at 10:35 pm #

            Lots of guys have small GLiTs, and yet lead decent, productive lives.

            Now that is funny! Well done.

          • Jarek December 19, 2023 at 12:38 am #

            Seriously Ely, I’m trying to understand your low score. I feel you could do better. Can you take the test again at your church or synagogue? Perhaps come in for counseling and/or classes in Conspiracy Theory.

          • stelmosfire December 19, 2023 at 9:13 am #

            El, of all people you must know that to get a 9 or 10 GLiT score you have to cheat and measure from the bottom.

          • elysianfield December 19, 2023 at 11:36 am #

            Jarek,

            I read* you have a GLiT of prodigious proportion…so, riddle me this;

            The Pope sez that Gay marriage, buggery, the “Infamous crime against nature” is OK

            The Pope, Vicar of Christ, is infallible.

            Sooo, Jesus thinks it’s OK.

            But…But I see no red ink stating thus,

            THEREFORE, Both the Pope and Christ are on the DL?

            …I…I feel stirring in my GLiT….

            Oh, regarding attending Synagogue…Soon after birth, my GliT was actually shortened.

            Saint…I AM measuring from the bottom….

            *I personally have seen no evidence of this…yet.

          • Jarek December 19, 2023 at 1:07 pm #

            I like you slyly brought this out, saying I just found that I am after I took the 23 and me test. Now you’re a regular mensch among men.

            Are you the Jewish cop who arrested Mel?

          • OG December 19, 2023 at 2:28 pm #

            The Pope, Vicar of Christ, is infallible.
            – Ely

            This is the problem in the logic flow of your riddle, imho. This key statement is false.

            The Pope is a man-made institution and the Spanish Inquisitions, unimaginable greed and, now, buggery of this man-made institution has no reflection whatsoever on Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

          • elysianfield December 19, 2023 at 3:36 pm #

            “When the Pope intends by virtue of his supreme authority to teach on a matter of faith and morals to the entire Church, he MUST be protected by the Holy Spirit from error—else the powers of hell would prevail. This is the logic behind infallibility.”

            OG,
            Does this allow for all Catholics to have at least a showing on the GLiT meter?

            Therefore, the Holy Spirit promotes buggery. Even the Bible promotes buggery AND narcotics use;

            “If a man lies with another man, he should be stoned…” Leviticus (paraphrased)

            I hope this lesson in bible knowledge will mitigate the Demon/tongue thing….

      • OG December 18, 2023 at 8:26 pm #

        That is to be expected, Mike, since the GLT was not developed and evolved for the bashful’s entertainment.

        ***
        JHK comment days (Mondays & Fridays) are the best to pick-up fresh GLTs. We got three today alone (RD3, COJ & Zoltar).

    • RD3 December 18, 2023 at 9:40 pm #

      What about that fag, Mike Sherman? Did he ever weigh in?

      • OG December 18, 2023 at 10:06 pm #

        Mike is undoubtedly a small-GLT man. I’d guess 0 but JFK transcends the others and, therefore, results in a lot of 1s.

        This is pure speculation, though, as Mike has never divulged his GLT score to our board.

      • Mike Sherman December 19, 2023 at 6:25 pm #

        @RD3 *mwa*, sweetie…

    • Paula D December 19, 2023 at 7:34 pm #

      Well, OG, I am female, so less inclined to wave my GLT around in public than the men.

      However, (she says modestly), I’m pretty sure that my GLT is bigger than most others, as you would know if you read my posts.

      I don’t even believe widely believed bullshit, like the Holodomor story.

      But I ain’t bragging, just sayin….

  35. Mike Sherman December 18, 2023 at 7:10 pm #

    Once again, JHK, you’re jumping sharks all over the place.

    ” For instance: the preposterous idea that “Joe Biden” is running for reelection. Does anybody over age seven, even in Beverly Hills, believe this whopper? I doubt it. But the absurd meme is repeated endlessly in the relic newspapers and floundering cable news channels, and for one reason: elite members in the party behind all this mischief — that is, the Democratic Party of Chaos — are desperate to avoid prosecution for things like seditious conspiracy to defraud the electorate, bribery, and treason.

    Your predictive record doesn’t shine too bright, JHK, so we’ll see about this one too, I guess, but it’s likely to be rated ‘inaccurate’. Just like this one:

    “This turkey was rehearsed in earlier House J-6 Committee hearings, so shabbily staged that Chairman Bennie Thompson (D-MS) arranged to have all the evidence destroyed (including witness deposition transcripts) as soon as the hearings wrapped.”

    A simple Google search will take you here:

    axios.com/2022/12/29/jan-6-committee-latest-transcript-interviews

    which features links to 141 witness testimonies in transcripts. Are you mistaken about that or are you now deliberately indulging in MAGAt tactics of saying something utterly false, believing that no one will fact-check it?

    Finally, who else has noticed just how loopy Drumpf is getting with his repeated lies about socialist & fascist dictatorship from the Democrats? What utter bullshit, and it’s extremely disheartening to find those with some intellect falling for this grift. It’s an infection, and once you’ve caught it, you simply do not recover.

    The ridiculous lies you have come to not only believe but espouse with such vigor are simply astounding – the key one being that the 2020 Election was ‘stollen’, which is probably the most egregious, as pretty much all the rest of the insane narrative the MAGAts are promoting hinges on That Lie.

    Now we have Alex fucking Jones going around stirring crowds of MAGAts to chant “Dictator Day One! Dictator Day One!” Who cannot see just how crazy this is? You do know that it will be the destruction of the American Institutional Society, don’t you? So, I’m guessing you actively WANT that outcome, but unfortunately, I suspect that you are not looking closely at what it will be like for all people, including elderly old white Jews – you’ll wake up in Gilead and will have no one to blame but yourself.

    If you’re right and Drumpf pulls it off in 2024, I’ll be getting a collection of different colored tee-shirts all saying “Don’t blame me – I didn’t vote for the Crazy Orange Jesus in the White House!”. I also predict that within a couple of months, that tee-shirt slogan would be enough to have me thrown into Drumpf’s American Gulag.

    In continuing to repeat the lies and bullshit of Trump and his minions, the MAGAts, you are actively inciting the overthrow of 250 years of American democracy. Think about it. Is that really the solution to what you see as the problem?

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    • SoftStarLight December 18, 2023 at 11:11 pm #

      Oh Sherman. You know, you are living in a narrow little space the overlords want you to live in. Like, basically in a mental way you’re already living in one of their pods. People are Magats to you because you’re eating the bugs their feeding you. Either that or you’re a manager. And I don’t think you’re a manager.

      Democracy means that you have to listen to the people. If people vote for Trump then that means you have to live with it. And they did. You have not lived with it. You therefore have not lived up to your obligations to democracy. You will be judged accordingly.

    • JohnAZ December 19, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

      Democracy? Please define your idea of democracy. Progressives do not have a clue that liberty starts with the individual, not with the government.

      The Athenians, the fathers of the concept of Democracy, could not make it work. Governance by the mob NEVER works. The USA Today, under progressive influence, is proof of the pudding on that one.

      250 years of US democracy? You label yourself as ignorant. With that statement. The USA has never been a democracy. The FF installed a republic to stop the mob philosophy with the chaos it causes. Instead we have:

      Rule by the Majority with the rights of the Minority protected. Our biggest problem today is the legitimate majority, think the gross vote, no electoral college, is definitely on the side of the Progressive side. So if the USA flows in the direction of the majority, per the Constitution, eventual we will become the third world country that the majority has been derived from.

      20th century patriots have lots of problems with that, but its progression will ensure the finality of American leadership.

      Uh-oh, who might be behind that???

    • Mike Sherman December 19, 2023 at 6:23 pm #

      @SSL…oh, come on. Pod? Eating insects? WT actual F are you kidding yourself about here? Do you believe Night Gnat’s WEF scam? Oh, well…no surprise, I guess.

      @ JohnAZ – that old saw about the ‘constitutional Republic’ doesn’t apply any more. There’s no electoral college for the dogcatcher job is there? Or your county sheriff? There are elections – ipso facto, it is a democracy – whether you like it or not.

      @ BULLITT – You have zero idea of how a progressive sees the world. That little synopsis you played out there was Trumpian as hell – typical projection: you have described how YOU would manipulate the world if you had your druthers.

      See, the weakness in this democracy is that it ALLOWS the evil rhetoric of Drumpf & the MAGAt Minions. If the tables were to turn and Drumpf somehow wins the 2024 election, there’s no way he’d tolerate the inevitable protest and dissent. He’d have riot police in there bashing heads, as the Constitution is trashed right before your unbelieving eyes.

      Fortunately, there’s still a firm majority of right-minded people who don’t suffer from whatever brain infection you MAGAts suffer from and Drumpf won’t win at the ballot box.

      • Paula D December 19, 2023 at 7:38 pm #

        Trump was already president for four years and none of your deranged claims happened.
        Did you forget the year long riots of 2020? Or the riots at the inauguration of 2017, for that matter? They were FAR more violent than the Capitol tourism of Jan. 6th, but you TDS people don’t seem to notice.
        And yet, no heads were bashed, and no one sat in jail without a trial for years, the way the MAGA people have done.

        You are a projectionist, and that is a sign of a mentally ill person.

  36. BULLITT December 18, 2023 at 9:36 pm #

    Sherman,
    We will all pray for you. We feel your pain.
    A Hillary/Obama ticket will fix everything.
    Feel better now?
    2024 will be a great year for the Democratic Party. They will win the House, Senate, and the Presidency. Hillary will rid the streets of those darn MAGA people and the Orange One will be in jail forever.
    Chris Wray and his AG friend Garland will be given more power to protect you.
    Illegals will be able to vote. After all they live here, right?
    Now explain to us if you agree with me or you have another candidate and a plan of attack.

  37. SoftStarLight December 19, 2023 at 2:44 am #

    More info regarding the vehicle kill switch Congress recently mandated and how it fits into the smart control grid and the arriving digital prison state.

    rumble.com/v421ikw-the-shocking-real-purpose-for-a-government-mandated-vehicle-kill-switch-rev.html

  38. SoftStarLight December 19, 2023 at 3:09 am #

    OG mentioned that new Netflix movie Leave the World Behind upthread. And then I noticed there is a movie coming out about a civil war. Are the managers telegraphing their next moves?

    twitchy.com/brettt/2023/12/18/heres-how-the-states-line-up-in-upcoming-civil-war-movie-n2390938?

    • JohnAZ December 19, 2023 at 11:09 am #

      You Tube has been discussing the civil war 2 for some time. Most say it will be a state to state conflict, IMHO, state to state with island cities, Examples, Chicago and downstate Illinois, Phoenix and Tucson with the rest of Arizona, California east vs. California west, same with Oregon and Washington.

      Possibilities include realignment of the state boundaries to reflect philosophies, such as Idaho picking up eastern Oregon and Washington.

      Ignorance says that the country cannot divide, it is too complicated. BS, when there is a will, there is a way.

      Obama being the executive producer, both of them, surprised me. Is he telegraphing a fear he has about the danger of the grids in the US and the potential danger of crypto war.? I think the movie’s other theme, that White vs, Black disappears when survival becomes an issue, also surprised me. Even the young Black girl finally had to curb her racism when Manhattan was being obliterated.

      Surprising!!!

      • elysianfield December 19, 2023 at 11:23 am #

        ” White vs, Black disappears when survival becomes an issue, ”

        John,
        C’Mon man….

        Racial tensions will be exacerbated by the sense of victimhood. Class will become a “thing”..You will be hunted for sport.

        • malthuss December 19, 2023 at 11:48 am #

          No kumbaya?

        • JohnAZ December 19, 2023 at 11:52 am #

          In the movie, the differences between the two groups disappeared when the SHTF. In the movie!!!!!!!

          When the SHTF, victimhood, your word, will be universal. History says yes, disaster puts everyone on even footing and the battle for power starts over. Not hunted for sport, when the SHTF it will be for survival.

          • elysianfield December 19, 2023 at 12:40 pm #

            “…We are all equally victims, but some will be more victimized than others~DJ Big P.I.G.

            John,
            On this topic we must disagree.

      • malthuss December 19, 2023 at 11:48 am #

        KUMBAYA

        • JohnAZ December 19, 2023 at 11:54 am #

          In the movie, six people. Obama’s dream is that things would come together.

          History belies that.

          • OG December 19, 2023 at 3:54 pm #

            It’s dangerous to claim to know others’ thoughts, goals and dreams. It can lead you down dead-end paths while signalling to others that you do not know of which you speak.

      • SoftStarLight December 19, 2023 at 3:24 pm #

        Is his dream for people to actually come together? Or, is he coating his poison pill with sugar so you will swallow it? I seriously doubt Obama actually wants people to get along when he in reality has done everything he can to inflame racial tensions. They already know most people have no clue they are talking to them at a subliminal level when they put these movies out there. So whatever the message is it is likely for people like me and you. I personally think it is letting us know that they’ll take the whole thing down if needed and fool the population into fighting within itself until there is no one left but them.

  39. SoftStarLight December 19, 2023 at 3:19 am #

    The John Fetterman plan has now been fully activated. You’ve been warned.

  40. mitchellc December 19, 2023 at 9:15 am #

    Socrates-Detroit December 18, 2023 at 12:18 pm writes:

    The US is an iron “Cartel Capitalism Oligarchy” iron hand, under a velvet glove which is the veneer of a constitutional republic. Some say this was inevitable as life became more modern and advanced.

    I think this comment should be printed and kept in everyone’s pocket. Such a nice summation of where we are and how we got here.

    I only have a few quibbles, mainly that once again even the most aware can fall back into the mental trap of thinking today’s situation was “inevitable”, as if it transformed from something else (presumably, better).

    Let’s review once again the history of the New world conquests.N America was divided between the Virginia & Plymouth colonies 100+ years after Spain demonstrated how to expand empire in Mexico and Peru.

    Why do people take as some kind of ‘act of nature’ that the FFs, including Jefferson of course, were the richest men residing in the Colonies?

    Did their legacy just spring from the air? No, it sprung up from the land, as they were all descendents of the original grantees and governors.

    When the constitution was crafted, it was to serve and protect the interests of this new pseudo aristocracy that had seized power and vanquished the former royal authority.

    This pre civil war period is where the story gets a bit muddled, as this is the fictious American that all children have been indoctrinated and directed to worship and adore. (Pledge of allegience imposed 1942; in God we Trust motto began 1956.)

    Is it a mere coincidence that both our host and many posters continue to cling to some weird faith based fantasy about the actual facts – both past and present – regarding the Empire?

    Try to objectively view the USA as if it were, say, Madagascar or some other place so foreign and far away that one doesn’t really have any basis for holding an opinion one way or another.

    What would you see? You’d see what I see, and you’d no longer have any emotional attachement; rather, you’d become entirely mercenary and practical.

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m not some kind of disgruntled ex-pat. Under no conceivable situation would I ever intentionally forgo my golden ticket aka citizenship.

    But I know exactly what I’m dealing with it, and treat such a dangerous entity with the utmost caution and respect. You definitely *do not* want to get sideways with the hegemon. Rather, keep your public/social opinions to yourself, don’t engage, pay your taxes, and for goodness sake stay out of politics.

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    • JohnAZ December 19, 2023 at 11:17 am #

      If you have been watching Outlander, you would know that England really screwed up after the Battle of Culloden. The remaining Highlanders were either executed or sent off to America to ply their futures here. What a mistake as thirty years later, these Scots and a lot of other British Isle rebels became American rebels. All it took was leadership and some financial backing from the Colonial Haves to have the civil war in the colonies. The Scots were heavily in the war especially in the Carolinas where Cornwallis finally got whipped.

      Is there a lesson here, did England sow the seed of its own demise in the USA? What could that mean today? Are we seeding the demise of the USA by allowing the Have-nots of the world to enter our country?

      • Socrates-Detroit December 19, 2023 at 1:40 pm #

        @JohnAZ… I don’t know that Outlander is a source of history

        (I liked the first two season, but it lost me… Still, I like the way the British were depicted as cruel and evil, some truth to that)

        …but, if as you say, the British actually sent the Scots to America, that is ironic, as I could see the Scots and the Irish being big supporters of the Revolution and providing many of the soldiers in the American Army. I’m sure they many were very motivated to take avenge their losses in the old world.

        Good point.

        Cornwallis finally got whipped in Yorktown, Virginia, when he was defeated by Washington’s troops and French warships prevented Cornwallis escaping by sea. You can look it up.

        By the standards of the 18th century Britain, the Scots and even more so, the Irish were considered much inferior to English, and the English abused them. They were “have nots” who spoke English.

        I think a lot settled in Appalachia and the South. My impression is that a lot of US military leaders, or career soldiers, were Scots-Irish… I think Jim Webb (former Navy Secretary, Senator, Democrat) wrote a book on that topic.

        In fact, a big reason, perhaps THE reason, America adopted slavery is that while the English had used ‘indentured servants’ from Ireland in the new world (as I understand the term, you agree to work for 10 years at no pay, to subsist, and then you are “free”), was that the hot, tropical climate of the Caribbean and the American South was hard on Irish (and whites). Working in the steamy summer, with the mosquitoes, and MALARIA, the Irish tended to die off. The Africans, on the other hand, were rather resistant to malaria (and came from a hot climate).

        I only know that Africans were much more resistant to malaria than Irish because I read in Chronicles (a very reputable magazine–you might like it) that when the canals were constructed in New Orleans in the 1800s (in an effort to move rainwater out of the city), many (hundreds or thousands–either way, a LOT) of Irish laborers died. Louisiana was a slave state of course, but slaves, any slaves, were capital assets, and slave owners were not willing to risk their slaves in this apparently dangerous endeavor, so New Orleans used paid laborers.

        • Jarek December 19, 2023 at 2:15 pm #

          A study showed that the Irish were often treated worse than the Blacks because the Blacks were valuable property whereas the Irish were just indentured servants. They wanted to get their money out of the wretches before the wretches got out of their clutches.

          The poorest people in Jamaica are the poor Whites or “red legs” who live in remote areas and refuse to mix with the Blacks and thus be blended out like a German colony there was. First one girl succumbed then another, then all of them. Thus things collapse slowly and then all at once.

          So Blacks were better at something? So the races aren’t exactly the same? I wonder what the Whites are better at, lol.

          The remnant of the Caribs, at least on one island, state that if a women marries a Black or gets pregnant by one, she’s out of the tribe. There is simply no other way. Diversity means separation.

          • OG December 19, 2023 at 2:59 pm #

            I had never before heard of Jamaica’s “red legs.” Very interesting. Thanks.

          • BackRowHeckler December 19, 2023 at 3:03 pm #

            Jamaica was a Spanish Colony until 1655 when Oliver Cromwell sent his Pirate Calvinist Army down there & wiped out the Spaniards. Then Jamaica served as a pirate base for raids on the Spanish Main, including Henry Morgan’s infamous buccaneer raid on Panama City. English attacks on Havanna, Caracas, Hispanola & the Yucatan were frequent.

          • BackRowHeckler December 19, 2023 at 3:09 pm #

            For the record, Henry Morgan worked his way up to Plantation Owner & Lt. Govetnor of Jamaica. Unfortunately, Lt. Governor Morgan died from cirrhosis of the liver at age 53.

            Who doesn’t like a shot of Henry Morgan Rum now & then?

          • BackRowHeckler December 19, 2023 at 3:14 pm #

            … altho I don’t see Captain Morgan on the shelves any longer. Product might have been discontinued .., a great loss.

          • Socrates-Detroit December 19, 2023 at 4:06 pm #

            @BRH

            I was not familiar with Captain Morgan (I thought it was the name of a brand of rum), thanks.

            I wonder if the real Captain Morgan was the inspiration for the movie “Captain Blood”, from 1935.

            This movie made Errol Flynn.

            I caught it on TCM. Any movie buffs here who have not seen it, I highly encourage it.

            It’s a good movie, and while it’s in black and white, the action shots–the sword fights, the naval battles, the fighting on ships, it is REALLY well-done!

    • Socrates-Detroit December 19, 2023 at 1:15 pm #

      @Mitchellc

      Thanks for the good word!

      Yep, the “Founding Fathers” were basically the Elite of the New World.

      WHY should they be subservient to a King 3500 miles away?

      They developed philosophy and system of divided government which

      would secure THEIR interests, and provided they did not overdo it, more of the benefits of society would trickle to the masses of white settlers than would be the case if the king was in charge, and would allow for a military to protect from the King.

      History is written by the victors. With age, I believe that

      a PLURALITY of the settlers supported the Revolution, but many settlers were loyal to the King, and many were indifferent, but just wanted order.

      “No taxation without representation”. Yes, that’s what I was taught.

      Let’s see now… the King had to provision soldiers, supplies and weapons to go fight against the FRENCH and Indians in the “New World”; a navy to take them there. He had to tax or borrow to do this–no printing money, and the King did this to save HIS piece of North America and his subjects, and to take the French piece.

      It was kind of a World War 0, or “pre World War” as two major powers fought a major war thousands of miles from Europe.

      Very expensive affair (though also profitable, as the English “won” Canada). Who benefitted more, the 10 million English or the 2 million Colonists?

      Several of this new elite by the way, for example, Thomas Jefferson, distrusted central bankers.

      And of course several of the new elite, aka Founding Fathers, owned slaves.

      Slavery–the nasty crack in America’s foundation.

  41. mitchellc December 19, 2023 at 10:37 am #

    Absolutely great thread @ MoA under the heading “America is something that can be moved easily.”

    Empire is now under move – the pussyfooting around behind Ukraine is coming to an end, and it appears the planned conflict over Taiwan might be stillborn.

    Like any preliminary counter feints during the initial stages of battle (think of skirmishers), the real main force is being revealed.

    Once again, combined naval and air power concentrated where it counts the most: the region of precious juice and the trade routes necessary to transport our entire civilizations lifeblood.

    Humanity just doesn’t have the time for a WEF style population RIF and reorganization. Recall the famous scene of SS panzers running dry during the Bulge, thus sealing Germany’s fate; too little, too late.

    We are now firmly on the trajectory of a war time footing, including price controls & shortages, open checkbook with no limit printing, and of course speech controls.

    Jim, you were right 15 years ago, just a bit off on how it would go down.

    • JohnAZ December 19, 2023 at 11:33 am #

      Think BRICS++, those are the folks that will re-write the economy of the world. The USA is about to find out how powerless it really is.

      Just like Russia in Ukraine, where everyone thought they would just walk right in.

      Think of a football game where 1/2 of one team joined the other team. The USA is in the same position as more of the world is switching sides. The French Revolution started when royal soldiers refused to fire on the rebels at the Bastille and instead joined them. The nobility of France lost their heads over that one. Pun intended.

      Even internally, Texas is joining the MAGA side against the Monsters of Pennsylvania Ave. Abbott is signing a bill making illegals caught in Texas criminals under state law, subject to immediate deportation. CW2 is accelerating.

      Nationally, JHK is still right, oil is the key. Just think what would happen if 40% of the oil consumed daily disappeared overnight. I witnessed 1973, people killed each other during the chaos that occurred. An oil shortage now could be the trigger that fires off CW2. Think if Texas and N. Dakota both closed their borders to oil shipments to everyone else.

      Anyone notice that the cartels are starting to plant IEDs on the border with Border patrol agents as their target. Biden of course will ignore the issue even if people get killed.

      • beantownbill. December 19, 2023 at 1:04 pm #

        I believe we could cut down our consumption of oil if we thought of conservation as a way of life. We don’t. If we were taught to be more conscious about burning oil, could we cut down at least 10%, or 2 million b.p.d. without feeling too deprived?

        In 1973 we had enough oil, but the media, as it does now, played it up so we panicked. I waited in line back then, but it wasn‘t bad if you planned your needs every week – just a little pain in the neck. And I was getting 18-20 mpg. Now I get around 40 mpg.

        As far as CW2 is concerned, if we don’t get a stupid or socialistic dem in 2024, I think we won’t have a CW. People are just waiting to see how the ’24 election turns out or looks like it will turn out.

        I read about the IEDs. Something will give in 2024 if the border situation doesn’t resolve itself soon.

        Geez, we’re talking about 2024. I always thought of it as the far future. I read about the 2020’s years ago in a lot of SF stories. Now it’s here and we’re talking about the 2030’s. Boy, does time fly.

        • malthuss December 19, 2023 at 8:48 pm #

          we could cut down our consumption of oil if we
          stopped importing people ….

      • Socrates-Detroit December 19, 2023 at 2:37 pm #

        Not to pick on you, but

        In 1973, the US imported only 15% of its oil, not 40%.

        Not “everyone” thought the Russians would just walk right in.

        The US supplied Ukraine with a lot of lethal weaponry.

        Russia is not a bottomless pit of resources and men. BUT, the Russians actually can make good weapons (aka weapons designed to win wars, not enrich military contractors, lobbyists, and legions of government workers and military officers, like the US).

        Russia is fighting the war on its terms. It is, regrettably, killing a lot of their Ukrainian brothers. They had to neutralize a lot of US weapons.

  42. cowbell81 December 19, 2023 at 10:51 am #

    SoftStarLight: Are you here today? Why were you up so late last night posting so many messages? You must be royally tuckered out today. I hope you are doing well.

  43. beantownbill. December 19, 2023 at 11:19 am #

    When I was a freshman in college, my social studies professor asked us what the definition of power really was. He kept asking us throughout the semester, but never told us. Finally, at the end of the semester he defined power as participating in making decisions.

    Pretty simple definition, but as I remember, I don’t think anyone came up with that. And power was the subject of the entire course.

    Well, over the years I’ve always used that definition, which helped me understand what was really happening. Think about it.

    Our course-mates had a lot of discussions about the American Revolution. Using this definition gave me a lot of insights into the origins of the USA.

    I also remember thinking my instructor was a socialist or communist, but even if true, he was spot on.

    My second freshman semester, spring1964, the school held an MPC – a mock political convention. It was big stuff on campus with Republican and Democratic tents that only stated party members could enter because each were trying to prevent spying. It took up a lot of extracurricular school activities.

    Me being me, I didn’t join the Dems or Repubs, but I did vote. I knew the school Dems ended up nominating LBJ, but I don’t recall the Repubs’ final candidate. William F. Buckley was a major candidate.
    At that time I identified with the Dems (ah, the lack of innocence of the
    young) because I had grown up in a staunchly Dem family.

    Anyway, the seeds of the adult me were already sprouting, because I wrote in Mickey Mouse as my candidate.

    • cowbell81 December 19, 2023 at 11:27 am #

      Good story Bean, thanks for sharing. That is a great definition of “power”. So really, as far as we know, Biden may be “president” but he is not in “power”, since I think we all know that other people are making the decisions for him.

      We all have power, especially when we decide where to shop and spend our hard-earned dollars. There are good reasons why I refuse to support particular establishments and corporations.

      Your story made me think of a favorite professor I had in my graduate course studies. He was quite the jaded attorney, former counsel for D.C. mob boss Mayor Marian Barry. HIs schtick was that there is and always should be a “scheme” behind any and all best laid plans. That has always stuck with me: What is the scheme we are trying to get away with here?

      • JohnAZ December 19, 2023 at 11:47 am #

        Heck yeah, Cowbell. What do you think the Deep State is all about?

        A political issue arises and it is splashed all across the radio, TV, social media in a matter of minutes. Both political parties meet and scheme every single day on how to defeat the enemy. Same with the media. Schemes run this country now, not for the betterment of the people, but for the survival of the Deep State.

        • beantownbill. December 19, 2023 at 12:34 pm #

          @ CB, too.

          Exactly.

          • malthuss December 19, 2023 at 8:49 pm #

            participating in making decisions…

            nonsense..its who has the gold makes the rules….who gives orders that are followed is the man in power.

    • JohnAZ December 19, 2023 at 11:41 am #

      Ultimate power is the ability to make the decisions, to press others to your line of philosophy. Dictators seek advice from confidantes. But ultimately make the decision themselves. The great weakness of dictatorship is that progress is limited to one person’s talents.

      Something about humanity makes people seek dictators to tell them what to do. That is why socialism always ends up as the last political systems during the runs of empires. Socialism is self-defeating because it steals the initiative of people to succeed. Mediocrity just invites other more aggressive peoples to conquer.

      We are there now.

    • Rulo Deschamps December 19, 2023 at 7:36 pm #

      Power is the quest of the brujo/a. The magician’s life quest is to achieve power. The powerful classes, have to be, then, magi.

      To not seek power, in their view, is grounds for enslavement or worse. Untermenschen deserve slavery.

      To understand power in a different way is to transcend. To participate in a different spirituality.

  44. beantownbill. December 19, 2023 at 12:33 pm #

    But, but… people say, “Not voting means you leave yourself open to others’ choices, and are abdicating your power”. Actually, it’s just the opposite, and that’s where TPTB get you. They try to make you feel guilty by not voting – after all, people gave their lives so you have the freedom to choose. In reality, not voting gives you the most freedom because you aren’t dependent on others’ political feelings. And it gives you power because it’s a decision to act.

    George Washington knew what he was talking about. So-called American patriots wanted him to be king, but he refused. He also said to beware of political parties. What happens is they have money and influence to prevail by making promises which become iffy when they win, thus robbing you of your freedom because whether or not you realize it, you’ve become dependent on them. True freedom is not being dependent on anyone or anything but your own decisions.

    Of the people here who vote, how many of you are satisfied with those in power, or were in power? Historically have they done you any or mostly good? If not, why are you still voting, still hoping? If you really want power, make a decision to not vote. That’s power.

    • GreenAlba December 19, 2023 at 1:00 pm #

      It’s not power if they get to count you as ‘apathetic’, in my view. They count spoiled votes – at least they do on this side of the pond. When there are a huge number of spoiled votes, it’s obvious that it’s a thumbs-down for the entire corrupt system. So it’s good to go along and write ‘I do not consent’ or some such on your ballot paper, in my view.

      Typically, in this country, you get a turnout of about 70 percent for a natiional election and 30 percent for a local one. The 30 percent isn’t a protest non-vote – it is and has always been pure apathy. So it’s best to publicly distinguish the two, I think.

      • beantownbill. December 19, 2023 at 1:21 pm #

        I don’t get why it would be better to say I do not consent. If a lot of the voting public don’t vote, wouldn’t that also be a statement.

        Getting 70% here in the States would be considering a resounding mandate.

        • OG December 19, 2023 at 1:54 pm #

          Hear! Hear!

        • GreenAlba December 19, 2023 at 2:14 pm #

          “If a lot of the voting public don’t vote, wouldn’t that also be a statement.”

          It can be interpreted as a statement of mere laziness, which lets the perpetrators off the hook. In my view.

          • OG December 19, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

            Not with a sudden, significant drop, it couldn’t and wouldn’t, GA. Doubly so if after a #Don’tVote groundswell movement.

        • stelmosfire December 19, 2023 at 2:22 pm #

          Bill, don’t worry. If you don’t vote in ’24 somebody will vote for you. Not that it even matters in MA.

          • beantownbill. December 19, 2023 at 2:59 pm #

            To me, I don’t think it matters if someone else votes. I can only be concerned with my own actions.not depending on others’ is true freedom, even in voting.

            But you are correct in that Mass. is a mess. BTW, did you attend the Boston mayor’s party? Oh, wait. I forgot, you are white and couldn’t attend.

    • OG December 19, 2023 at 1:54 pm #

      “Don’t vote, it just encourages the bastards.”
      – P.J. O’Rouke

  45. elysianfield December 19, 2023 at 1:03 pm #

    https://redstate.com/beckynoble/2023/12/18/american-jews-see-nearly-200-swatting-and-bomb-threats-at-us-synagogues-over-the-weekend-n2167678

    Where’s Zaz?
    He must be all atwitter….

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    • Socrates-Detroit December 19, 2023 at 2:49 pm #

      That is terrible.

      But that is reported.

      I missed that report, so I may have missed the report on how many mosques are getting bomb threats, or how many Arab-Americans are being threatened and harassed.

      But I don’t have to look far to see that Arab-Americans are targets of real violence–we had the six-year old stabbed in Illinois.

      In Vermont, three Palestinian, or “Palestinian-looking” 20-somethings were shot.

      And we have LOTS of accounts of people losing their jobs or being deplatformed for supporting the Palestinians, but I haven’t come across any one losing their job for anti-Palestinian hate speech of the type used by Israeli officials.

  46. cowbell81 December 19, 2023 at 1:13 pm #

    They’re creeping in ever closer, coming for us ALL!!!!!

    From @BreannaMorello:

    U.S. Capitol Police are expanding outside of Washington D.C.

    After January 6th, they opened two satellite offices in Tampa, Florida and San Francisco, California.

    They just recently opened offices in Texas, Milwaukee and Boston too.

    USCP claim they’re opening these offices, “due to the increased threat environment.”

    When I asked USCP for the data that supports their claims—they couldn’t get back to me on that.

  47. beantownbill. December 19, 2023 at 1:14 pm #

    Regarding bomb threats at synagogues, I would take physical action against threateners, except there’re no synagogues in my town. I’m happy to still be around, but I dislike being too old to carry out much of what I want to do to the Jew-haters. I’m just waiting to be accosted by any of them because even if I end up getting in trouble, they will be the sorry ones.

    • Socrates-Detroit December 19, 2023 at 2:59 pm #

      Good thing you too old!

      You sound like a really tough guy, we need you in Detroit!

      But wait…

      By your reckoning, anyone who doesn’t agree with the wholesale slaughter of Gazans by any means available (bombs, starvation, disease) is “Jew-hater”, isn’t that so?

      Also, in the US, legally, you cannot take physical action against a “threatener”. You have to be physically threatened with actual harm before you can take action.

      I don’t want you to get in trouble with law.

      How about bomb threats against mosques? Is that OK? The guy in Vermont who shot three 20-somethings because they looked Palestinian? Is that more or less bad than a bomb threat?

    • Socrates-Detroit December 19, 2023 at 2:59 pm #

      Good thing you too old!

      You sound like a really tough guy, we need you in Detroit!

      But wait…

      By your reckoning, anyone who doesn’t agree with the wholesale slaughter of Gazans by any means available (bombs, starvation, disease) is “Jew-hater”, isn’t that so?

      Also, in the US, legally, you cannot take physical action against a “threatener”. You have to be physically threatened with actual harm before you can take action.

      I don’t want you to get in trouble with law.

      How about bomb threats against mosques? Is that OK? The guy in Vermont who shot three 20-somethings because they looked Palestinian? Is that more or less bad than a bomb threat?

  48. TPTB-USA December 19, 2023 at 2:06 pm #

    This last Sunday (and previously) Mark Levin lays out a case for the House to dispense with following the money in an impeachment inquiry into “Joe Biden”, and directly pursuing impeachment on the grounds that “Joe Biden” has violated his oath of office (by not enforcing the existing laws, among other things).

    Does anyone know of a flaw in Levin’s logic? Is it not being pursued because it could/would be blocked?

    • Paula D December 19, 2023 at 4:37 pm #

      The Constitution gives three grounds for impeachment, treason, bribery, and other high crimes and misdemeanors (meaning crimes that only people in high places can commit, like withholding IMF funds to get a prosecutor fired. Ordinary people cannot commit that crime.)

      Why give up an open and shut case of bribery and influence peddling for some nebulous claim of “not enforcing laws”?

      Is Mark Levin a Democrat? I don’t know him, but this certainly sounds like a way to sabotage the impeachment.

      • TPTB-USA December 19, 2023 at 5:19 pm #

        Levin: This is a clear impeachable offense
        youtube.com/watch?v=K64l_CQu3GA

        • Paula D December 19, 2023 at 7:56 pm #

          OK, I didn’t have the patience to watch the whole thing, just the first six minutes.

          But I disagree with him about the definition of high crime.
          It is as I said, a crime that can only be committed by someone with the power of the office to do such a crime. Like having a prosecutor fired because you have the power to shut off an IMF loan.

          It is NOT a failure to carry out laws of the land. That is not a high crime, it’s a failure of duty. Different things.

          Plus, this dude thinks that the post-coup president of Ukraine was a “puppet of Putin”?
          Right there he proves that he is ignorant.

          Now, if you want to give me the crib notes, and you think he came up with an actual High Crime in the last 9 minutes, just spell it out here so that I don’t have to finish watching this guy.

          But he hand waves off Treason and Bribery, because the guy at 7–11 won’t understand? But he thinks that the guy at 7-11 will agree with the laws he wants enforced? Enough to impeach for a reason that is not actually in the Constitution?

          Yeah…..no.

          • TPTB-USA December 20, 2023 at 12:43 am #

            “But I disagree with him about the definition of high crime.
            It is as I said, a crime that can only be committed by someone with the power of the office to do such a crime. Like having a prosecutor fired because you have the power to shut off an IMF loan.

            It is NOT a failure to carry out laws of the land. That is not a high crime, it’s a failure of duty. Different things.” ~ Paula D

            **

            “The Take Care Clause requires the president to obey and enforce all laws, though the president retains some discretion in interpreting the laws and determining how to enforce them.”

            en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_Two_of_the_United_States_Constitution

            **

            The Constitutional Categories of Impeachable Offenses
            by Michael Stokes Paulsen
            lawliberty.org/the-constitutional-categories-of-impeachable-offenses-impeachment/

            “… In addition to the per se impeachable offenses of “Treason” and “bribery,” the House and Senate properly may employ the impeachment power to punish or remedy what they determine to be:

            (1) Serious (or serial) violation of the Constitution or departure from sworn constitutional duty (i.e., violation of one’s oath of office), as judged by the two houses of Congress;

            (2) Misuse or abuse of constitutional powers actually possessed (again, as judged by the two houses of Congress):

            (3) A serious failure in performance of the constitutional responsibilities of executive or judicial office, whether by affirmative acts or by wrongful omissions, evidencing culpable negligence or incompetence (again, as judged by the two houses of Congress);

            (4) Betrayal, compromise, or abandonment of the national interest, disloyalty falling short of treason, or an intolerable conflict of interest between an officer’s personal or financial interests and the duties of office (as judged by the two houses of Congress);

            (5) Violation of the public trust or breach of faith, by dishonesty or lack of integrity in public behavior, self-dealing or corrupt conduct in any of a variety of forms (such as receiving or giving kickbacks or payoffs, or the dishonest use of funds or awarding of public benefits, short of “bribery” per se);

            (6) Serious, willful criminal-law violations of a nature that Congress judges incompatible with continuance in important national office, whether or not involving the use of the powers of office in any respect, whether or not committed while holding office, and whether or not punished or punishable by the ordinary processes of criminal-law enforcement; and

            (7) Serious non-criminal misconduct or misbehavior that the two houses of Congress judge to be incompatible with the function, purpose, or dignity of the office, including such things as sexually predatory behavior, or misuse of office for personal gain, pleasure, or entertainment.

            Each of these sub-categories of wrongful, culpable misconduct fits within the broad range of meaning afforded by the Constitution’s term “high Crimes and Misdemeanors.” …”

            **

            My assessment is that Levin has presented good arguments for his article 1 and 2 violations, and his article 3 violation, when all perspectives are taken into account, could be argued to the point of a civil war.

          • Paula D December 20, 2023 at 11:48 am #

            I did finish listening to video and I was still not impressed.

            I don’t know when the offenses listed on this link were invented, but I stand by my assertion that open-and-shut cases of treason and bribery make this particular president the most vulnerable to impeachment Ever.

            The contempt that Levin evidences for the American public is disgusting.

            Don’t go by the Constitution, Americans are too stupid to understand?

            Invent dereliction of duty articles based on Fox propaganda, instead?

            How dare he! Many Americans may be stupid, but they manage to be on jury duty anyway. The laws are not that difficult to understand, especially when the evidence of wrong doing are as plentiful as they are here. Even Democrats may be convinced, if they actually watch the proceedings.

            Personally, I think it would be beyond stupid for the Republicans to ignore clear Constitutional grounds for impeachment in favor of invented partisan bullshit.

            So, maybe they’ll do it.

          • TPTB-USA December 20, 2023 at 1:26 pm #

            Your assertion was “It is NOT a failure to carry out laws of the land. That is not a high crime, it’s a failure of duty. Different things.”

            Biden swore that he would obey and enforce all laws, and you don’t think that he is in (1) Serious (or serial) violation of the Constitution or departure from sworn constitutional duty (i.e., violation of one’s oath of office)?

            And furthermore, according to Paulsen, he doesn’t get to play the incompetence card.
            (3) A serious failure in performance of the constitutional responsibilities of executive or judicial office, whether by affirmative acts or by wrongful omissions, evidencing culpable negligence or incompetence.

            **

            Now lets look at it from the aspect of gaming the system.

            That which I continually see is the likes of Jamin Raskin and Hakeem Jeffries (just like Nadler and Schiff) fighting over the megaphone to declare that the Republicans have NOTHING!, and MSM amplifying their proclamations once again; and Jim Jordan looked dejected after some hearing because the subject refused to cooperate and he ends up with nothing for his efforts (it is almost like he can see the writing on the wall (it is over before it has even begun)).

            People with TDS don’t care about the constitution, and they don’t care about the facts (this is what Levin was pointing out); so why not just get on with an impeachment in the order that Levin promotes?

            The following statement of yours leads me to believe that you weren’t paying attention, or are incapable of comprehending his message (he has basically addressed all of your complaints).
            “Invent dereliction of duty articles based on Fox propaganda, instead?”

            So, its OK for “Joe Biden” to forgive student loan debt?, and if at first you don’t succeed, then try, try, again?

            **

            “How dare he! Many Americans may be stupid, but they manage to be on jury duty anyway. The laws are not that difficult to understand, especially when the evidence of wrong doing are as plentiful as they are here. Even Democrats may be convinced, if they actually watch the proceedings.”

            I suppose that you believe that John Durham’s assessment was bogus and deserved to be disregarded?

          • Paula D December 20, 2023 at 3:54 pm #

            “People with TDS don’t care about the constitution, and they don’t care about the facts (this is what Levin was pointing out); so why not just get on with an impeachment in the order that Levin promotes?”

            My answer: Because it is better to impeach on clear Constitutional grounds than on invented grounds.

            It makes no sense to think that if the system is rigged against Jordan and others, and the Mighty Wurlitzer will spin their charges no matter what, then switching from clear Constitutional grounds with massive amounts of evidence, to partisan talking points, will somehow make it more legitimate in the eyes of people with TDS
            How?

            Everyone knows that bribery and treason are bad, and impeachable offenses.

            Open borders and student loan forgiveness are completely different things. Open borders is a failure of duty and student loan forgiveness is executive overreach. Neither are new for presidents, so why switch offenses to such things, instead of open-and-shut treason and bribery?

            I think it’s delusional to believe that an impeachment based on Fox News talking points will somehow prevail, but one brought on Constitutional grounds will not.

            So we obviously disagree.

          • Jarek December 21, 2023 at 1:40 pm #

            Levin is just saying that America needs to be kept strong so it can support Israel.

            “Once we get what we need from America it can dry up and blow away” – Netanyahu

      • JohnAZ December 19, 2023 at 5:54 pm #

        The Constitutional writers were scared to death of foreign influence on the government. Hence the presidential requirement to be native born only and the impeachment for bribery requirement. If they can prove Biden was involved with bribery from Ukraine and China, he will be impeached and removed.

        The Deep State has its tentacles into everything, destroying evidence everywhere. It will be a bitch trying to get any evidence from the DOJ to implicate ol’Joe. The video of Joe bragging about influencing the Ukrainians to stop their investigation of Hunter is enough for me. Trump should never have been impeached the first time. He is an angel compared to the mafia that is there now.

        • Paula D December 19, 2023 at 7:58 pm #

          Yes, John, that was an actual High Crime, AND we have Joe on video bragging about it.

          Nothing more open-and-shut than that.

      • JohnAZ December 19, 2023 at 5:57 pm #

        Mark Levin, Sundays on Fox, is about the most MAGA of the MAGAs. He and Sean Hannity would make a good team.

        • Paula D December 19, 2023 at 7:59 pm #

          I don’t like Sean Hannity either. That’s two for two.

  49. OG December 19, 2023 at 2:09 pm #

    P.J. O’Rouke was brilliant.

    “The free market is not a creed or an ideology that political conservatives, libertarians, and Ayn Rand acolytes want Americans to take on faith. The free market is simply a measurement. The free market tells us what people are willing to pay for a given thing at a given moment. That’s all the free market does. The free market is a bathroom scale. We may not like what we see when we step on the bathroom scale, but we can’t pass a law making ourselves weigh 165. Liberals and leftists think we can.”
    ? P.J. O’Rourke, Don’t Vote, it Just Encourages the Bastards

    “The free market is the greatest repository of our freedoms. Economic freedom is the freedom we exercise most often and to the greatest extent.”
    ? P.J. O’Rourke, Don’t Vote, it Just Encourages the Bastards

    [Think of that quote vis-à-vis CBDC.]

    “The best way to have a good political system is to avoid politics. But political disengagement deprives us of opportunities for bitching at politicians and pushing them around. This is occasionally useful and always a pleasure. In our democracy we don’t get in trouble by trying to make politicians mad. We get in trouble by trying to make them like us. Our political system goes to hell when we want it to give us things.”
    ? P.J. O’Rourke, Don’t Vote, it Just Encourages the Bastards

    ***
    O’Rourke died from lung cancer at his home in Sharon, New Hampshire, on February 15, 2022, at the age of 74.

    [Of course every CFNers first thought: “He was probably jabbed.”

    If so, of course, we have yet another example of obvious brilliance swept up in mass hysteria while drunken Cree on the reserve saw through that bullshit.]

    • Jarek December 19, 2023 at 2:22 pm #

      And of course the seller can refuse to sell, thus driving up the price.

      So get if from someone else.

      What if there is no one else?

      Capital centralizes – Marx.
      The Capitalist class gains class consciousness first – Marx.

      Thus? Thus they work together against the people and the Nation.

      Thus? Thus they must not be allowed to do so.

      Thus? Thus there must be a power greater than them that guides and if need be, checks them.

      Thus? Thus Fascism or National Socialism as per Russia or China respectively.

      If not achieved soon enough, the Capitalists and Bankers will take over completely as per the United States. The system is called Plutocracy or rule by the rich.

      • TPTB-USA December 19, 2023 at 2:29 pm #

        So, are Soros and Sanders worshipers barking up the wrong tree, in that their actions ultimately facilitate the takeover by the Capitalists and Bankers?

      • Socrates-Detroit December 19, 2023 at 2:43 pm #

        @Jarek, the plutocracy has taken over the US for some time.

        The economy’s vital indicators (debt, inflation, real output, real jobs), and social indicators (real crime, not reported crime, as more criminal acts are decriminalized) will continue to decay, but the plutocrats will continue to reach new heights, as they use obfuscation and deception to persuade people that things are good, and we are moving in the right direction for a better world:)

      • Socrates-Detroit December 19, 2023 at 2:59 pm #

        Having seriously degraded the Ukrainian armed forces, Moscow will now try to get Kiev to accept its demands peacefully. That’s the smart thing to do.

        Russia will want (as a minimum, I hope)

        ALL territory east of the Dnieper.

        The city of Odessa and ALL territory bordering on the Black Sea.

        A demilitarized Ukraine in what is left, just like Finland and Austria were demilitarized, by agreement, during the Cold War.

        And if Ukraine doesn’t agree, more people will die and suffer for nothing.

        This is not like the Israelis and Arabs, were two very different groups (religion, language, alphabet) are fighting over the same land.

        These people are not that different, and got along fine for hundreds of years as part of the Russian Empire.

        They got along better than the English got along with the Scots, who were subjugated by the English into Great Britian.

        Many great Russians, writers, politicos, are from the Ukraine.

        Zelensky himself, while a Jew supported by the Na–zzi element of the Ukraine, is a RUSSIAN speaker–that’s his first language.

        THE Ukraine is the territory which was subject to the ebbs and flows of history. While it’s the birthplace of Russia, the “core” of Russia became Muscovy, Moscow, to the north and east.

        Poland rose and expanded eastward, overrunning the Ukraine and reaching Moscow, I think in 1612. The Russians beat them back over the decades.

        Then a new big boy appeared–Sweden. And Sweden expanded into the Ukraine. At the decisive battle of Poltava, 171x, Czar Peter the Great decisively defeated the Swedes–and Sweden ceased to be major power, a “player”. They stuck to Scandinavia, pursued neutrality, PROSPERED, and saved themselves as lot of useless war memorials.

        Poltava is in the Ukraine.

        “Western Ukraine” is actually Galicia, where Lviv is. That was the intersection of Poland and Russia/Ukraine. It’s the border/buffer. To the west, definitely Poland. To the east (like Kiev) definitely Russian/Ukrainian.

        When Poland was finally wiped off the map, by the agreement of Austria, PRUSSIA, and Russia in 1792, Austria and Russia split Galicia.

        After Poland was re-established as an independent country (yes, while Poles existed, they had NO country from 1792 until 1919), Poland got L’wow (that is Lviv’s name in Polish).

        Then, as Stalin liberated Eastern Europe from the Germans, well, he helped himself and the USSR to some territories, like the Baltic states, and.. Galicia! L’wow became Lvov.

        Stalin also moved Poland’s western border more west, and Silesia, a GERMAN area, became Polish. The Germans “left” (no, they did not really leave, but as @Jarek knows, they were forced out by Soviet troops, who also helped themselves to German factories that were left).

        So, back to the Ukraine, it will basically be the province of Kiev. And if the Ukraine is stupid enough to not accede to Russian demands (remember, in free elections most UKRANIANS east of the Dnieper supported pro-Russian candidates; west of Dnieper, they supported pro-Western candidates), well then the Russians will take what they want by force, and if I was Russia, I would take even more. Maybe even Galicia. And while Kiev is indisputably Russian/Ukrainian, Lviv is not.

        This is harsh, but if I was dictator of Russia, I might give Lviv a taste of what the Gazans are unfairly experiencing.

        Finally, Galicia has as troubled history. In WW1, the Austrians set up a detention camp for Russians, thousands died. In WW2, the Bandera (Ukraine Na-zzis) were strong in this area, a lot of war crimes here against Jews and Poles.

        • beantownbill. December 19, 2023 at 4:08 pm #

          I know you may be shocked, I do agree with you about Ukaraine

        • JohnAZ December 19, 2023 at 5:45 pm #

          Gazans are unfairly experiencing?

          How about the hundreds of rockets Hamas has sent into Israel? How about the atrocities that were committed in October.

          I guess they must have been fair in your eyes.

          Gimme a break. If Gaza wanted to co-exist with Israel, this bullshit would be over quickly.
          That will never happen, so Israel will stop when Hamas is dis-armed permanently. No more rockets, no more atrocities and especially no more tunnels.

          • Socrates-Detroit December 19, 2023 at 6:57 pm #

            This didn’t start in October.

            And it didn’t start in January 2023 either (from then until Oct 07, Israelis killed about 200 Palestinians in the West Bank).

            This didn’t start when the Israelis started detaining Palestinians without cause, indefinitely and jailing them.

            Or when Israelis started to torture prisoners.

            This didn’t start when Israel limited freedom of movement of Palestinians in the West Bank.

            Jim Crow was bad. But even with Jim Crow, even though “Negroes” were not allowed to use white restrooms, or even patronize white gas stations, they were allowed to go from one town to another, as long as they stayed in the “Negro” part of town.

            Maybe you’re OK with all that.

            Well, in the occupied West Bank, Palestinians can’t do that. They cannot travel from one town to another. They only have water four days a week. I learned this from Kim Iverson, of all people.

            The Israelis have stolen the Palestinians’ land and water.

            You cry and squeal over Hamas–but I don’t see you, or even many other people talk about Irgun and the Stern Gang, and how they “cleared” Israel of 700,000 native Arabs in 1948.

            That’s when this started. 1948

            When the “West” made the linkage between the Holocaust and a Jewish Homeland. Perhaps they should’ve given Silesia to Holocaust survivors, instead of giving it to Poland.

            But when this REALLY started was 1967, after Israel won their surprise attack war and occupied Gaza and the West Bank.

            The Israelis already had the issue of the Palestinian refugees from 1948. Now they had the refugees and whole new batch of conquered people.

            Some of us here call out the abuses of the Israeli occupation. You and others ignore them, or seek to rationalize them. And some (not you JohnAZ) just attack the messenger.

            After Carter bought off Egypt, Israel’s most formidable enemy, in the early 1980s, the Israelis started ramping up their settlements in the West Bank–and Gaza. Gaza was dumpy and not worth it, so the Israelis “left” and imposed a blockade around the place.

            “keep them on the brink of starvation” as an Israeli politico said. And every so often, “mow the lawn” by bombing them, said another. That’s the Gaza policy, in Israeli words.

            So, if, in the US, the southern states had been able to prevent desegregation, if the Klan had its way, do you think the “Negroes” would’ve just given up?

            Or do you think some of these boys, especially those with some real experience in Vietnam, might’ve start blowing things up in White America?

            20,000 dead people so far. Does Hamas have anti-aircraft missiles?

            Israel is not going to eliminate Hamas. Israel has given Hamas more volunteers than Hamas can train. Any one over the age of 7 realizes that people will want revenge or justice. 20,000 dead to be avenged….

            Now, if you believe that Israel has the right to remove all the Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank, and if they don’t leave, then Israel has the right to kill them, to “eliminate Hamas”, then come out and say so.

            It’s an open forum. From some comments, I get the impression some people would approve.

            But it is not only lame, it is incorrect to say this started on October 07.

            Not everyone in Israel supports the elimination of the Palestinians. But, I could say the same of the Germans and the Holocaust. Not enough Israelis oppose it. and those with the power are intent on strangling the Palestinians, and if the Palestinians refuse to comply, killing them.

            And because of popular support, and more importantly, the Israeli Lobby, AIPAC, and big money, like Bill Ackman or the Adelsons, the Israelis own the US government and not only have the US covering them, but they have the US taxpayer paying for their crimes. And the media being 95% pro-Israel.

            And Israel is ruled by a crook! A crook facing massive anti-Netenyahu demonstrations this summer, who might be facing charges and jail time if he loses his “parliamentary immunity”. So perhaps HE ratcheted up the killings and abuses of Palestinians, and the harassment at the Al Aqsa Mosque, to get a reaction–to get his Pearl Harbor moment! And, to avoid prosecution…. very clever….

            I’ve read that the authorities ignored warnings and didn’t man battle stations on Oct 07. Maybe to give Hamas as little bit of a “good start”, so that Bibi could have his “Pearl Harbor moment.”

            Well, Bibi got his moment, and he is going to town! 20,000 dead–a lot of them very dangerous women and children and old men.

            And elsewhere you complain about the Democrats and inflation and America’s woes… Yeah, financially we are drowning in debt, but we have billions for Israel. OK.

          • benr December 20, 2023 at 10:06 am #

            @soc-det

            That entire one-sided screed leaves out on important detail.
            The people claiming to be Palestinians have NEVER taken responsibility for their own determination.
            They can’t feed themselves, govern themselves, water, power, take care of sewage or even the most basic of services that makes one’s society and country successful.
            Everyone forgets this is the essence of a welfare state that literally bites the very hand that does all these things for them.
            When Israel stops, they start dying like flies and they elect a group of people who’s entire purpose in life is to destroy the very people who make the Palestinian people capable of survival.

            Your points are laughable.

          • TPTB-USA December 20, 2023 at 12:20 pm #

            Socrates-Detroit, what do you foresee the ME landscape looking like when all the dust has settled?

          • Socrates-Detroit December 20, 2023 at 10:28 pm #

            @benr Your comment is laughable. The Palestinians were there for hundreds of years, under Turkish occupation, without all that Israeli magnanimity.

            In that part of the world, they didn’t get electricity and modern plumbing until anywhere from 1920 to 1980, maybe later.

            The Israeli occupation coincides with that. So, if you are saying that they had not electricity before occupation, you may have a point.

            But I think some/many Egyptians and Jordanians DO have electricity and plumbing, and I think they had electricity and plumbing in the West Bank and Gaza before 1967.

            Now, in the West Bank, they don’t have swimming pools. But Israeli settlers do.

            If any of my statements are incorrect, please be specific and tell me.

          • Socrates-Detroit December 20, 2023 at 11:13 pm #

            @TPTB-USA

            I don’t think anyone can know how the football of the Middle East (ME) will bounce. I don’t know.

            But here are my thoughts:

            I think Israel (the government) will succeed in removing the Gazans from Gaza. Very sad, criminal, but they’re working on making Gaza uninhabitable, with the US, and both US and Israel are working on the narrative of a “better future for the Palestinians.”

            (an aside: Goehring is spinning in his grave in admiration!)

            And I think the West Bank is next.

            That I am quite certain of. I hope I’m wrong.

            WHERE (which nations) the surviving Palestinians are kicked to next, and how they affect those nations internally and geopolitically is hard to tell.

            If Egypt’s dictator or Jordan’s “King”, both of whom get enough US aid, and preside over economically weak countries, to be good American puppets, get overthrown by mass protests, what happens? How does that affect other Arab states?

            Could the Gulf States be affected by events in Palestine?

            What’s going to happen in Yemen, with the “fleet of the willing”?

            What will happen if a hot war breaks out with Hezbollah in Lebanon? Does that drag Syria in?

            And how are the other kids in the MidEast neighborhood going to react the REALITY that, other than Iran, which is far away, Israel can do pretty much as it pleases?

            Iran and Israel = MAD, mutually assured destruction, like the US and USSR, or the US and Russia today.

            Why does Saudi wants “nuclear energy”? Why did the Shah want “nuclear energy”? They have lots of oil… They know they are ultimately at Israel’s mercy.

            Are the other kids going to say, “you know, these Israelis are alright, we need to get along” and really walk the talk?

            Or are they going to privately say “these people are dangerous and insatiable. The Americans are dangerous. We need some new friends”?

            Israel will never be “safe enough”.

            Especially if the governments in Egypt and Jordan change, if the US can’t keep them in line, and if Chinese capital displaces US influence.

            Will Israel then make the case to re-take the Sinai? To occupy Jordan?

            Without the US, Israel can’t do what it does. Israelis, hawks and doves say this too, it’s not just me.

            Most CFNers here are not optimistic on the future of the US.

            Israel is not going anywhere. With its nuclear arsenal, Israel will ALWAYS be around.

            I don’t know what is more amusing: Hamas (or any Arab) comments about pushing the Jews into the sea, or the Israeli hysteria, used to great effect, that takes this comment seriously.

            The lines of demarcation in the world were already hardening. They are going harden more.

            The US and China both have problems.

            However, Russia and China can help each other, and mitigate some of China’s “structural issues”.

            China and Russia want in on the Middle East, and thanks to the Israeli response to Oct 07 (which was precipitated by years of Israeli abuses in general, and the ramped up abuses in CY 2023, in my opinion), China/Russia are going to make inroads at the US expense.

            China has gotten Iran and Saudi to “de-escalate” their rivalry. China is working on doing same for Egypt and Ethiopia (why ELSE would they put them in BRICS?) and also Brazil and Argentina. They’re cultivating, while the US is dictating.

            I tend to agree with JHK (on many things, but not Israel) that plentiful, affordable oil is going way. But, so far, 20 years, and it has yet to happen. But if this fracking runs its course, it’s back to the Middle East, isn’t it?

            And I think, internally in Israel, a lot of Israelis will regret what happened, and Israel will be more divided internally than ever.
            A conscience can be a big torment.

            A more sharply divided Middle East in a more sharply divided world, and bigger foreign drain for a weaker American taxpayer coming up.

          • TPTB-USA December 21, 2023 at 5:06 pm #

            Considering the situation from the perspective of representation for individual citizens, there is no solution. As long as Israel exists, there will always be animosity, which leads me to fallback on MacGregor’s assessment that the US needs to get out of the ME, as well as Israel.

            If Israel is to stay, I think they are going to need the blessing of China.

            I assume that One Belt One Road (OBOR/1B1R) is one of China’s primary objectives. if the US were to clear-out of the ME, would the combined influence of China and Iran be able to end the hostilities and provide a foundation for a new start?

            Or, in addition, would Israel need to have a serious attitude adjustment?

            Would adoption of the 2030 Agenda by default provide Israel with a serious attitude adjustment?

          • Socrates-Detroit December 22, 2023 at 3:16 pm #

            @TPTB-USA

            Unfortunately, I agree, there is no solution at this time.

            I meant to respond to your 5:06pm comment last night, to say that I thought that, BEFORE Oct 07, say in the 90s or 00s, there was some chance for a SETTLEMENT. It would have been very fragile at best. More likely, the more extreme elements on both sides would not accept a “sell-out” and would undermine it, and draw most of their people in.

            Israel is NOT going to go away, unless there is a major nuclear war with outside powers. (Israel cannot really nuke Gaza or the West Bank, or even it’s nearby neighbors).

            What is happening in Gaza is a tragedy that will have all kinds of consequences for everyone, involved or not, including the “victorious Israelis”.

            I didn’t reply because I found this discussion between a mimbo and Prof. Measheimer, which is very interesting.

            If you, or anyone, have the time and interest, I encourage you to watch it.

            ww.youtube.com/watch?v=F-Rj5LibR1o

            (google Unherd podcast Mearsheimer)

            at minute 10:

            “I have long been a proponent of a two-state solution, but I have long argued that it was no longer a viable alternative because I thought the Israelis were no longer interested. NOW, after what’s happened, I think it’s inconceivable to see Israel creating a Palestinian state rigth next door”

            So what’s the solution professor?

            “I have no solution”.

            The professor says “Israel will continue to be an apartheid state”.

            THAT, I’m not so sure of. For an apartheid state, you have to have an oppressed group. I think the actions Israel has taken are meant to remove the oppressed group. Permanently.

            Anyway, Measheimer is very good. Excellent video.

            At minute 30, Prof Mearsheimer offers his prediction of how Ukraine will play out.

            Unlike myself, Measheimer is a serious, professional scholar and student of history. I’m an amateur student–and not a bad one, though not everyone will agree with me.

            Anyway, have a good weekend. I hope you can watch the video.

          • TPTB-USA December 23, 2023 at 12:04 am #

            Socrates-Detroit, thanks for the reference.

            Freddie’s interview was one of the early sources where I came to the conclusion that covid was merely an opportunity.

            Why lockdowns are the wrong policy: Swedish expert Prof. Johan Giesecke
            youtube.com/watch?v=bfN2JWifLCY&app=desktop

            I’ll post later regarding the conflicts.

          • TPTB-USA December 23, 2023 at 1:27 pm #

            Modeling it to the extreme, if you lived in a hostile environment, wouldn’t the best option be to move to a less hostile environment?

          • benr December 25, 2023 at 7:25 am #

            @sd

            You are sorely misinformed on the situation.

            They can’t generate electricity.
            They don’t have the plants nor the ability for upkeep.
            They are dependent upon everyone around them for almost EVERYTHING.
            A welfare state of the worst sort with their hand out for everything.
            A worthless society that could disappear and no one would miss them but leftist rabble rousers looking for the next cause to stir up trouble.

        • Jarek December 20, 2023 at 3:13 am #

          Well said. As Samuel Huntington said decades ago – it’s not a united country. Worse, it’s the border land between two different civilizations. He seemed to sense that it was going to come to grief and so it has.

          Divide it up for the sake of all. The Western Ukrainians have rights too – including the right to their version of National Socialism. Zelensky and the Gangsters were never going to give them that.

    • Soul Forensics December 19, 2023 at 7:22 pm #

      “Of course every CFNers first thought: “He was probably jabbed.” — OG

      No. Just you.

      You’re like a scared kid who thinks that every stray breeze is the beginning of a hurricane.

      Before the “Covid” scam, P.J. O’Rourke had cancer of the ass hole. He fought it successfully, and then developed a new cancer, as so many cancer patients will do.

      • OG December 19, 2023 at 10:16 pm #

        I’m not scared at all. It is amazing how often your assumptions are wrong, you whiny little puke.

        I am not jabbed and I am not scared. Rather, I am looking for patterns to understand the present in efforts to predict the future.

        You calling me a ‘scared kid” does not apply to me yet is of little effort for you to try and defeat your intellectually superior with your little-girl like ad homing.

        I’m the only one on CFN who wonders the jab status of people deceased after Dec. 2021? Ya think? Do you not read CFN, you whiny little puke? People here do that constantly. From Taylor Hawkins to Chandler Bing. Try to keep up or shush. A or B.

        Everyone who has researched it at all know that the jabs reinvigorated previously defeated cancers. What, are you new here?

        • OG December 19, 2023 at 10:18 pm #

          *Dec. 2020

        • Soul Forensics December 20, 2023 at 3:22 am #

          “I am not jabbed.”

          I never intimated that you were, you utterly obtuse fool.

          My comment was about you thinking every death or “suspicious” event is an indication of a black op or nefarious plot of some kind.

          You give the rest of us serious conspiracists a bad name because every headline from grifting shockaholic marketers is viewed by you with jaw-on-floor and a rush of adrenaline. And then you have to come on here and tell the rest of us to wake up. If the rest of us are asleep, I’d rather that extreme than your own choice to live on bennies and steroids.

          As I said, O’Rourke, like many millions before him, had serious cancer. He defeated it, and then it spread to another area. Pretty pedestrian stuff, but not as “thrilling” as your sci-fi fictions.

  50. cowbell81 December 19, 2023 at 2:58 pm #

    I found this new story to be delightfully hilarious….Shouldn’t these conditions be similar to those back in their foreign home? Am I a despicable human being?

    “Immigrants in NYC terrified after storm leaves shelter rattled”

    Immigrants in New York City were left terrified on Monday after a large storm left their tent shelter rattled.

    At least 1,700 people were staying at the tent shelter site at Floyd Bennett Field when heavy rain and 55 mph winds began rattling their quarters, leading to bolts and hinges falling, according to a report.

    “Pieces were falling from the roof,” one immigrant, identified as Peru native Leugim del Carmen Martinez Ordaz, said. “It’s so dangerous for the children. Things could fall on them.”

    Several people collected the metal that fell and showed them to reporters, the report noted.

    “The wind was so strong, it looked like the tents were going to give way and be blown apart,” another immigrant, identified as Venezuela native Reibi Rodriguez, said.
    “[It] seemed the bolts were loosening,” Rodriguez said. “When we told security we were afraid of an imminent collapse, they told us the door was open and we could leave when we want. But where are we going to go?”

    The storm left many rattled and without sleep, Geraldine Miere, another Venezuelan, said.

    “Last night, since two in the morning, the children couldn’t sleep. Strong winds were shaking the tents. We were worried they would come apart at any moment,” she said. “We asked the staff for help, but they didn’t do anything. I heard one of them joke they would like to see a tent come down just to see what we would do.”

    httpsXX://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/immigrants-in-nyc-terrified-after-storm-leaves-shelter-rattled/ar-AA1lKu7D

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    • SoftStarLight December 19, 2023 at 3:35 pm #

      A despicable human being? Sadistic? Emotionally unavailable? So many questions all the time lol. The part that made me giggle was “I heard one of them joke they would like to see a tent come down just to see what we would do.” Maybe someone should kindly remind Geraldine “ma’am please do keep in mind that you are a refugee totally living for free off of money taken from people who were born here. Next!” I do wonder why these people aren’t in fancy hotel? Did they run out of room? Because my understanding is that the illegals are getting the best places to stay with free cell phones and debit cards etc.

    • BackRowHeckler December 19, 2023 at 7:01 pm #

      Wait until the blizzards start rolling in off the North Atlantic, CB. Then these honored guests from fetid Central American jungles & sweltering, squalid barrios will be seeing snow for the first time … in a big way!

  51. cowbell81 December 19, 2023 at 3:15 pm #

    For anyone keeping tabs, another likely casualty of the Fauci Sauce:

    Andre Braugher, ‘Brooklyn Nine-Nine’ and ‘Homicide: Life on the Street’ Star, Dies at 61 (after a “short illness”)

    • SoftStarLight December 19, 2023 at 3:37 pm #

      Did you see that soldier collapse at Sandra Day O’Connors lying in state thing?

      • cowbell81 December 19, 2023 at 4:02 pm #

        No, so I just had to look this up and watch the video. Absolutely amazing, never seen anything like it. lol

        The funniest thing is that the NY Post article I read said: “The male guard can be seen wobbling as a colleague attempts holds him up.
        He then crumbles to the floor as others rush to his aid.”

        Now here is where it gets interesting. Per the video, there was a big bun of hair on the head, and the person falling clearly looked female. So, there is definitely some gender confusion going on here. But I guess that shouldn’t surprise anyone these days.

        • SoftStarLight December 19, 2023 at 4:19 pm #

          Ikr lol? Well I saw that too. Like they said he. But the guard clearly looks female so its misgendering maybe? Or maybe she is identifying as a male? Idk. It’s almost like they kinda want to misgender people sometimes to cause even more confusion? But then in one of the videos like the lady narrating said it was someone who came up to the area and then had to be told it was one of the guards. So sometimes maybe just question everything they say?

        • Jarek December 20, 2023 at 3:17 am #

          Maybe the Vax transforms people into other genders. Maybe the hair grew tremendously as they fell.

          • SoftStarLight December 20, 2023 at 2:35 pm #

            Lol well it certainly could. I mean do we really know what happens when you insert random monkey dna and snake enzymes, and hydras into people? I mean obviously I feel bad for the person but given the military mandates pretty sure they are jabbed.

  52. SoftStarLight December 19, 2023 at 3:41 pm #

    malthus likes to post words and I saw him post KUMBAYA. You really need to be concerned about AYABMUK. That is the world that they are actually planning for you while they sing.

    • malthuss December 19, 2023 at 8:55 pm #

      erwhone or nowhere???

      The Obamas ..gay prez and my wife michael..they of the adopted kids…did a movie..any comments on that?

      • SoftStarLight December 20, 2023 at 1:38 am #

        Wow, do you know people who shop there? Are you talking about the movie Leave The World Behind? Well I haven’t seen it yet but it does seem a little strange. An apocalyptic scenario with of course like the grid going down and no more internet and stuff. Remember how they used to talk about a cyber pandemic? It just seems to be an interesting subject matter for a movie that those two are involved with lol. And remember too that the Obamas have a mansion in Oahu and Mark Zuckerberg is building that underground bunker compound in Kauai. So are they letting us know what they’re escaping from?

    • Jarek December 20, 2023 at 3:18 am #

      What does it mean? Non-Kumbaya?

      • SoftStarLight December 20, 2023 at 2:18 pm #

        Yeah, exactly. Like essentially the idea would be the exact opposite. So rather than coming together everyone grows further apart and becomes more atomized to the point where they fight and destroy each other. Now as you know the ruling class is not doing this. This is the plan for everyone else.

  53. Night Owl December 19, 2023 at 3:51 pm #

    Bob Moran’s new cartoon is another cracker:

    https://t.me/bobmoran/235

    • SoftStarLight December 19, 2023 at 4:22 pm #

      I don’t participate in racism but it is pretty funny 🙂

      • cowbell81 December 19, 2023 at 4:30 pm #

        Nice preface to your comment there SSL…you are truly a Louisiana belle. 😉

        • SoftStarLight December 19, 2023 at 4:34 pm #

          lol 🙂

  54. beantownbill. December 19, 2023 at 4:03 pm #

    @soc-det:

    Look, I don’t inherently hate anyone who is emotionally involved in the Palestinians’ cause for good, fair reasons. However, I don’t read about any Palestinians saying that Israel has a right to exist, or that they shouldn’t be exterminated. Have you? If so, refer me to the postings. I’ll read them.

    It is unconscionable to threaten any mosques or attack any moslem just because you dislike them – unless they are actively threateningly Americans, Jewish or not.

    The thing with Israel is that unless they take out Hamas, Hamas will continue to attack them. Israelis don’t want a repeat of 10/7. Whether or not you think Israel displaced the Palis, Israelis shouldn’t have been killed. Should they have just complained instead, or let it go? Hamas didn’t leave it a choice. Unfortunately, they built a tunnel system that requires Israel to penetrate deeply into Gaza underneath its population centers, and makes the conflict drawn out to the point most everyone is tired of hearing about this. But is a long time frame a reason to stop the struggle?

    I also don’t think it’s fair to say I think anyone who doesn’t agree with Israel’s wholesale slaughter of Palestinians is a Jew-hater. It’s just that when the criticism is almost always against one side, but almost never against the other, I assume it’’s reasonable to think they must be anti-Jew. I don’t recall you ever having sympathy for any of the Jews, just the Palestinians. Besides, I never said I wanted wholesale slaughter.

    • OG December 19, 2023 at 4:31 pm #

      But is a long time frame a reason to stop the struggle?

      Now that’s a double-edged sword, Bill.

    • SoftStarLight December 19, 2023 at 4:31 pm #

      I’m sorry you are feeling marginalized, Bill. Many people simply just don’t have empathy. But everyone wants to be “on the right side” and clearly the establishment is pro-Palestinian completely so that is where everyone is for the most part. I can feel for both sides in different circumstances but I also feel somewhat distant from the conflict. So I just feel for you that you are going through a lot and don’t let people get you down. Like you stated, a lot of people argue and who even knows why because its not like they are going to change or anything so its like they argue but really its just restating the obvious and so forth.

    • TPTB-USA December 19, 2023 at 4:54 pm #

      “The thing with Israel is that unless they take out Hamas, Hamas will continue to attack them.” ~ beantownbill.

      As an observer, it is my opinion that to “take out Hamas”, they will essentially have to take out better than half of the Palestinians, and when that feat is accomplished, all of a sudden, they will have new groups which numbers will far exceed the “Hamas take out”, which they will have to “take out”.

      Taking into consideration Col. Douglas Macgregor’s assessment that from a military perspective, the situation is indefensible, what will the state of Israel look like, and will the current course of action have been worth it?,

      • benr December 20, 2023 at 9:32 am #

        Which is why they must rubbelize all of it after knocking down the fence between them and Egypt.
        Once the population is moved, they level everything.
        The scum bag terrorists Hamas must have nothing left to fight over.
        They can then move on with the accords and further isolate Iran the pariah state.

    • BackRowHeckler December 19, 2023 at 7:38 pm #

      There’s no wholesale slaughter of Palestinians, Bill. That’s all bullsh#t. It’s a war & both sides are taking casualties. I for one am happy for the moment Israel is dealing out more casualties than they are taking, which is how you win a war. Israel is better organized and better armed, which is something Hamas should have thought about before they attacked Israel on Oct. 7 and murdered 1300 Israeli citizens.

      • OG December 19, 2023 at 8:22 pm #

        Ya … October 7th. Fifteen (15) breeches in our border fence big enough for terrorists on dirtbikes while gaggles of tandems of paragliders flocked to and fro for 7+ hours upending otherwise peace. Ya … It’s all Hamas’ fault, see? That’s the ticket.

        I gotta go now. Morgan Fairchild beckons.

      • benr December 20, 2023 at 9:28 am #

        I believe I have made this point repeatedly.
        Hamas does not care about Palestinians nor children.
        They firmly believe any children lost can simply be replaced.

  55. beantownbill. December 19, 2023 at 4:28 pm #

    @ soc-det:

    I don’t feel so tough, I just get riled up about some subjects. I have a wife with a fatal illness (although it’s manageable) and my primary responsibility is for her well-being. However, I don’t care as much about me as I do for her. If it wasn’t for her, I probably would’ve already been in trouble. I know Massachusetts self-defense laws, and I know what I can or cannot do. I think (but I don’t know for sure) I can manage my temper enough to keep out of trouble. I guess I might ultimately find out.

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  56. JohnAZ December 19, 2023 at 5:34 pm #

    This arguing about the Middle East is pointless.

    If Hamas et al wins, they will push Israel into the sea and commit genocide of the Jews to accomplish it. If the Jews win, Hamas will be gone, along with Hezbollah and Houthis. The Palis stick with and hide Hamas as the Lebanese do the same with Hezbollah. Iran runs the show.

    Iran knows if it goes beyond a certain point, they are toast.

    Just choose sides, there is no sitting on the fence any more. For me, I will take the stability of the Israelis over the craziness of the Muslims any day.

    Especially when I consider their globalist domination per the Quran to be very offensive.

    • OG December 19, 2023 at 6:19 pm #

      Are you saying that the Talmud is not equally offensive, JAZ?

      • JohnAZ December 19, 2023 at 6:42 pm #

        Actually, the Talmud separated the Hebrews, then Jews from global involvement for thousands of years, God did not want His folks to intermingle or intermarry, per the Talmud.

        What conquered the world and changed things was the New covenant, Jesus Christ and St. Paul, Jesus’ spokesman. Jesus’ biographer, Lucanus the physician, wrote Luke and the Acts of the Apostles. That is God’s New Testament with us. I feel badly that the modern day Jews cannot accept even today that Jesus was the Son of God the Messiah and their ethnocentrism stands in their way. Every other religion invented or couched in man made dogma involves ethnocentrism. We are paramount, if you do not believe the way we do, we will kill you. Christianity has pulled this crap, too, but it is not what Christ taught.

        So no, the Talmud is an introversion for the Jews, a document that says, “just leave us alone.”

        • OG December 19, 2023 at 7:38 pm #

          The Talmud teaches Jews that goyim are animals, JAZ.

          So my question remains:

          Why do you side against the Palis on account of the offensiveness of the Quran while ignoring the offensiveness of the Talmud? Are you a straight-shooter or not?

          Also, given those thoughts about the New Testament, are you not upset at all the Pali Christians being genocided alongside the Pali Muzzies?

          • beantownbill. December 19, 2023 at 8:26 pm #

            OG, I stopped my Jewish education at my bar mitzvah at age 13. But I do have a decent memory. What I remember is that the Talmud is not the Old Testament – the word of God – but a set of discussions about what or how the laws of Judaism ought to be practiced, hence not the word of God. That is a big difference.

            The Talmud started to be written or taught by Jewish scholars shortly after the destruction of the Second Temple around 70 A.D. and continued on until the 11th century or so when Rashi, a Jewish scholar finally wrote a somewhat final version. From the 1000 years of the start until Rashi, the original Talmud was changed several times because the RCC didn’t like it, so the version we now have is mostly Rashi.

            It consists of hundreds of pages from over the centuries, but a lot had been erased. The Talmud is very dense, and many Jewish scholars to this day, spend their whole lives trying to understand it. Remember, it is

          • beantownbill. December 19, 2023 at 8:44 pm #

            OG, I stopped my Jewish education at my bar mitzvah at age 13. But I do have a decent memory. What I remember is that the Talmud is not the Old Testament – the word of God – but a set of discussions about what or how the laws of Judaism ought to be practiced, hence not the word of God. That is a big difference.

            The Talmud started to be written or taught by Jewish scholars shortly after the destruction of the Second Temple around 70 A.D. and continued on until the 11th century or so when Rashi, a Jewish scholar finally wrote a somewhat final version. From the 1000 years of the start until Rashi, the original Talmud was changed several times because the RCC didn’t like it, so the version we now have is mostly Rashi.

            It consists of hundreds of pages from over the centuries, but a lot had been erased. The Talmud is very dense, and many Jewish scholars to this day, spend their whole lives trying to understand it. Remember, it is an interpretation of what the OT supposedly says.

            I’ve never read any of it, it’s too complicated. But I suspect Jews saying Christians and other religions are animals is not true, just like the protocols of the elders of Zion is not true, but was written by a Jew-hater in the late 19th or early 20th century, and which many still ignorantly believe is a fact. Lies about Jews are still numerous.

            So before anyone says the animal part, I think we ought to be shown that actual statement in the current Talmud, otherwise I have to dismiss such claims. Good luck finding that yourself. And have a good read.

          • OG December 19, 2023 at 9:03 pm #

            Right, Bill. The Torah is the Word of God (and the first five books of the Christian Bible).

            The Talmud, you described well, thanks.

            My questions for JAZ remain.

          • OG December 19, 2023 at 9:34 pm #

            My first reply was written before your second post, Bill.

            ***
            I have heard that the Talmud calls goyim animals so many times without protest that I had long assumed it true.

            I will keep my eyes peeled for sources to validate these claims.

          • JohnAZ December 19, 2023 at 11:28 pm #

            Go for it, OG. Get those Jews. You are right about one thing though, I was referring to the Torah.

            Your zeal at trying to find out bad things about the Jews under cuts your credibility of not being ant-Jew.The Palis were given an opportunity to get out of Dodge for a week as Israel wound up the IDF. Their support for Hamas during the decades has condemned them to destruction. If Pali Christians are there, why? Why would they want to be involved with the Muslims?

            I will investigate the Talmud for myself.

      • Soul Forensics December 20, 2023 at 3:33 am #

        “I have heard that the Talmud calls goyim animals so many times without protest that I had long assumed it true.” — OG

        Figures.

        Rather than doing the honorable, painstaking work of reading the pertinent passages yourself, and, after long cogitation, forming a balanced, informed opinion, you instead started with an emotional bias, went out looking for it to be confirmed (cognitive dissonance), and then were further emboldened, like the sheep you are, to blast your ignorance for all to see because others on the board that you admire believe it, as well.

        But then, not so surprising for someone who actually admitted that he doesn’t read books because it’s more time-saving to just scour the internet for quick hits.

        Utterly shameless. What an embarrassment.

  57. SoftStarLight December 19, 2023 at 6:42 pm #

    The Colorado Supreme Court just ruled that Trump can’t appear on the primary ballot because he participated in an insurrection.

    Let the games begin!!

    • JohnAZ December 19, 2023 at 6:47 pm #

      Right to the Supreme Court.

      As an ex-Coloradoan, I am totally ashamed of that state, the most Liberal, the most Woke, the most politically disgusting of the Blue states. Waiting for the Western Slope to tell the Front Range to take their liberalism and shove it up their butts.

      Denver is disgusting now, a ghetto on the way.

      • SoftStarLight December 19, 2023 at 7:02 pm #

        I was listening to Boris Epstein and he says the paperwork is actually worded in such a way that Trump actually stays on the ballot. Very bizarre. Sounds like it is more of a PR thing that the blobites plan to use to drum up other states to do the same. But ultimately the Supreme Court has the say if they choose to pick it up

        • beantownbill. December 19, 2023 at 8:54 pm #

          SSL, who is Boris Epstein? Is he related to the Fantasy Island Epstein?

          • SoftStarLight December 20, 2023 at 12:42 am #

            My apologies as I was typing quick this afternoon just getting that out there and all. His last name is actually Epshteyn which when said sounds kinda the same but different than Epstein. Anyhoo, Boris is an attorney and an advisor to President Trump and the Trump campaign.

    • BackRowHeckler December 19, 2023 at 7:21 pm #

      Uh oh. For those who were calling for Putin to be deposed, Putin to be removed “by any means necessary”, Putin to be assassinated, Putin to be arrested for war crimes and tried before an international tribunal etc. you might get your wish. Apparently a challenger has emerged by the name of Leo Slutsky. Problem is, he’s described as a ‘Right Winger’ who makes Putin look like Mahatma Ghandi.

      Slutsky appears to be a bigtime Russian nationalist eager to flaunt Russian power & who’s fond of Russia’s nuclear arsenal. I wonder if Secretary Nuland & Senator Graham will like Slutsky better than Putin? Or will this be a case of ‘the devil you know is better than the devil you don’t know?’

      • Soul Forensics December 19, 2023 at 7:38 pm #

        Not being privy to the internecine power plays within the Kremlin, I don’t know how that will develop, but Putin’s long career as KGB intel officer, and his probable “in” with others in that department, including calling in favours, means that Slutsky might find it more profitable to apply for a job conducive to a field that instead aligns with his name.

        • BackRowHeckler December 19, 2023 at 7:59 pm #

          I’ve thought if Putin did go down he would be replaced by some revanchist, ball-busting Major General who started out in the Red Army as a lieutenant & would be more than happy to level Brussels & London just to get even, to settle scores, and announce to the world that Russia in no longer to be f#kkd with.

          • beantownbill. December 19, 2023 at 8:50 pm #

            Marlin, I know who that new leader would be: General Jack Rippov.

        • OG December 19, 2023 at 10:36 pm #

          Not being privy to the internecine power plays within the Kremlin, I don’t know how that will develop …

          What a blowhard.

      • Paula D December 19, 2023 at 8:08 pm #

        Slutskky? LOL, luckily he’s running in Russia and not the USA.

        But Putin always has a lot of people running against him. It’s not like the US, where only two people are allowed on the ballots.

        His popularity is over 80%, I’m pretty sure. He has no worries.

        But the election is in March and he only announced his candidacy a week ago or so.

        Meanwhile, in the US, our elections last for years, even though only two people are running.

        And our idiot overlords scream constantly about “Russia interfering in our sacred elections”, while, as you point out, openly trying to overthrow Russia’s government and break up Russia.

        Same thing they did in Ukraine in 2014, although the breakup of Ukraine was not their goal there. Oops!

        • SoftStarLight December 20, 2023 at 12:46 am #

          Wow, I didn’t realize Russia had a multi-party system. That is very interesting. Yeah, I wish we had that option here.

      • elysianfield December 20, 2023 at 11:08 am #

        ” Leo Slutsky.”

        BRH,
        Slutsky…SLUTSKY? a ridiculous fake name like “Egor Bitchakokov”, or “Biggus Dickus”….

        • OG December 20, 2023 at 1:01 pm #

          Jack Meeov

          • elysianfield December 20, 2023 at 2:07 pm #

            Mike Hunt

          • Ron Anselmo December 21, 2023 at 3:33 pm #

            Heywood G. Bloughmie

    • benr December 20, 2023 at 9:24 am #

      They are using fake federal charges in a state court.
      That is going to go over like a lead balloon.
      How fast will this get over turned?
      Colorado has lost its mind everyone must be stoned.

  58. Mike Sherman December 19, 2023 at 7:32 pm #

    Hey, Election Deniers – watch this:

    youtube.com/watch?v=7yYplnEkbqU&t=28s

    A Trump-appointed investigator can tell you the truth, and you CAN get over this delusion…

    • BackRowHeckler December 19, 2023 at 7:42 pm #

      3 years later and you’re still fixated on that bullsh#t? Get over it, the world has moved on, there’s another election in 11 months.

    • JohnAZ December 20, 2023 at 12:29 am #

      You do not get it, MS.

      The problem is not that Joe won, it is was there faux voting?

      Four years before, Jill Stein challenged Trump to recounts in five states where he actually gained votes.

      Trump’s folks asked for an investigation of about the same number of states substantiated by affidavits from many election workers.

      There was no investigation by our illustrious judicial system as judges one by one refused to hear the cases.

      It continued in 2022.

      Joe may have won, we will never really know.

      Same thing in 2024, the GOP has to win by more than five percent to offset potential fraud.

      • benr December 20, 2023 at 9:21 am #

        Literally hundreds of Americans were willing to come forward and testify under oath about election fraud oh excuse me the term irregularities they witnessed with signed affidavits.
        All that was ignored, and all evidence was also ignored and tossed.
        People like MS desperately want to be right even when so many people know there was massive fraud all over the place and the proof continues to leak out all over.
        How many elections have we listened to losing Democrats piss and moan about losing due to election fraud?
        Damn near everyone they have lost.
        Why?

        Because they cheat, they have always cheated, and they figure the other side does as well.
        It’s called projection.

    • SoftStarLight December 20, 2023 at 12:59 am #

      Do you even know what your link is, Sherman lol? If that is what you intended to post please tell what the investigator has uncovered? That Democrats hate Trump and embrace political violence?

      • Night Owl December 20, 2023 at 4:06 am #

        He used to do this during the Zelensky phone call fraud. Would post links to testimony that completely undermined whatever he was frothing about.

        I truly miss those days. Lots of fun.

        • SoftStarLight December 20, 2023 at 2:08 pm #

          Lol was this in the Tekapo or Majella days?

          • Night Owl December 20, 2023 at 5:00 pm #

            Jello.

  59. beantownbill. December 19, 2023 at 8:52 pm #

    Sorry about the double post above – fat finger and all. Read the second post.

    • malthuss December 19, 2023 at 8:57 pm #

      we forgive you as you are very old.

      • beantownbill. December 19, 2023 at 10:03 pm #

        Ahem! I’m just a kid.

  60. anmariwakaranai December 19, 2023 at 11:47 pm #

    “What you have heard is not fantasy nor the darkness of imagination, but what mankind has formed as the future of its history.”

    From the 1990 prophesy at Spirit Daily.

    About Israel, Venezuela, Russia, atomic war and mayhem.

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    • anmariwakaranai December 19, 2023 at 11:49 pm #

      Israel is making a terrible mistake. We must find peace.

      • JohnAZ December 20, 2023 at 12:32 am #

        You are sitting the fence, as long as the Iran proxies surround Israel, there will never been peace. How many peace treaties must be signed and land given up before Israel says “enough”?

        Maybe we are there now.

        • SoftStarLight December 20, 2023 at 1:04 am #

          But if you don’t sit on the fence then you can’t see on both sides, John. You can’t really stop them from doing things either.

      • Jarek December 20, 2023 at 3:25 am #

        The Bible says there is a time for peace and a time for war. Pacifism is a Novus Ordo teaching – in other words, it is of the Devil.

        It is worship of this life. It is of the body only. It is a denial of the spirit and thus of God.

  61. gustafson.robert.22 December 19, 2023 at 11:48 pm #

    @Soc-Detroit

    “And elsewhere you complain about the Democrats and inflation and America’s woes… Yeah, financially we are drowning in debt, but we have billions for Israel. OK.”

    Objecting, as an American opposed to funding Israel generally, to funding Israel’s Gaza operations.. is different than having a moral objection to the military action.

    I’m with you on the first, not the second.

  62. JohnAZ December 20, 2023 at 12:13 am #

    Excerpts from the Wikipedia discussion on the Talmud. Rejection of violence.

    “In fact, the love of peace and the pursuit of peace is one of the key principles in Jewish Law.”

    Judaism rejects violence and relies upon moral education, love and sympathy.”

    Quote from Jean Paul Sartre

    “The Jews are the mildest of men, passionately hostile to violence. That obstinate sweetness which they conserve in the midst of the most atrocious persecution. That sense of justice and of reason which they put up as their sole defense against a hostile, brutal and unjust society is perhaps the best part of the message they send to us and the true measure of their greatness.”

    “The philosophy of non-violence has roots in Judaism, going back to the Jerusalem Talmud of the middle third century. While absolute non-violence is not a requirement of Judaism, the religion so sharply restricts the use of violence, that non-violence often becomes the only way to fulfill a life of truth, justice and peace, which Judaism considers to be the three tools of the preservation of the world.

    Comment: Violence is condoned in self defense or in the act of protecting another life from violence.

    “Jews have always hated war and “Shalom” expresses the hope for peace, in Judaism war is evil, but at times a necessary one, yet, Judaism teaches that one has to go to great lengths to avoid it.”

    Comment: Sounds like the world needs more of this and not less. The Talmud is an expression of peace, not violence.

    • Jarek December 20, 2023 at 3:33 am #

      Wow. I wonder who runs/owns Wikipedia. They’re good on many things, but they can’t be trusted on things like this obviously.

      In Christ’s day, the Talmud was still just an oral tradition, but a well developed one. He hated these “traditions of men” that the new sect, the Pharisees, had brought back from Babylon. He hated the sect and they hated him. Which sect survived the Fall of Jerusalem and into the Diaspora? The Pharisees.

      See the problem? See below for more.

    • elysianfield December 20, 2023 at 2:06 pm #

      ” The Talmud is an expression of peace, not violence.”

      John,
      As is the Holy Quran….

  63. JohnAZ December 20, 2023 at 12:21 am #

    It is official, Kamala Harris is more popular in the polls than Ol’ Joe.

    I am so happy.

    • SoftStarLight December 20, 2023 at 1:20 am #

      Monmouth job approval survey

      Biden:
      Disapprove – 61%
      Approve – 34%

      Harris:
      Disapprove – 57%
      Approve – 35%

      Both of their ratings continue to drop though. Another interesting tidbit to perhaps elevate your spirits. Trump is now the favored candidate in the under 30s. So Biden is beginning to lose out in all demographics.

      Now. Do you believe the polls lol?

  64. Jarek December 20, 2023 at 3:50 am #

    Israel and Anti-Gentile Traditions
    Israel Shahak’s theory that anti-Gentile traditions have influenced Israeli policy is well known in both Arab and anti-Semitic circles, but Jews have yet to properly confront it.

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    JEWS & NON-JEWS

    Despite its title, Israel Shahak’s Jewish History, Jewish Religion (1994) is not your average intro-to-Judaism book. It is more likely to be found in a Muslim day school in Damascus than a Jewish day school in New York, more likely to be cited on a neo-Nazi website, than your local synagogue’s.

    Shahak’s book is an overview of Judaism and Zionism, which focuses on Jewish anti-Gentile traditions. Though he recognizes that many of these teachings are no longer authoritative, Shahak believes that they have, nonetheless, had a profound influence on the development of Jewish identity over the centuries. Most importantly, he believes that they have seeped into Zionist ideology and have affected the way Israel interacts with its non-Jewish citizens and neighbors.

    Shahak, a Holocaust survivor who died in 2001, was for many years a professor of chemistry at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. He also led the Israeli Civil Rights League from the mid-1970s until 1990. In Israel, he was a controversial figure, but he was revered by the international left as a tireless advocate for human rights.

    Are Jewish Lives Worth More?
    In Jewish History, Jewish Religion Shahak brings numerous texts and legal rulings to demonstrate Jewish antipathy to non-Jews. He mentions a passage from the Talmud that says that Jesus will be punished in hell by being immersed in boiling excrement. He relates that Jewish tradition teaches pious Jews to burn copies of the New Testament and curse the mothers of the dead when passing non-Jewish cemeteries. Shahak highlights the famous passage from Leviticus commanding Jews to “love thy neighbor as thyself” and mentions that, according to rabbinic interpretation, “thy neighbor” refers only to Jews.

    Shahak further suggests that the Jewish tradition values Jewish life more than Gentile life. He cites Maimonides’ assertion that whereas one who murders a Jew is subject to the death penalty, one who murders a non-Jew is not (Mishneh Torah, Laws of Murder 2:11). According to another leading commentator, indirectly causing the death of a non-Jew is no sin at all (Rabbi Yoel Sirkis, Bayit Hadash, commentary on Bet Yosef, Yoreh Deah 158).

    Shahak reiterates the well-known Jewish teaching that the duty to save a life supersedes all other obligations and notes that the rabbis interpreted this to apply to Jews only. According to the Talmud, “Gentiles are neither to be lifted [out of a well] nor hauled down [into it]” (Tractate Avodah Zarah, 26b). Maimonides writes: “As for Gentiles with whom we are not at war…their death must not be caused, but it is forbidden to save them if they are at the point of death; if, for example, one of them is seen falling into the sea, he should not be rescued, for it is written: ‘neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy fellow’–but [a Gentile] is not thy fellow” (Mishneh Torah, Laws of Murder 4:11).

    Indeed, Maimonides is the focus of much of Shahak’s analysis. Shahak believes that the 12th-century philosopher and talmudist was a Gentile-hater and racist. He quotes Maimonides’ statement that, “their [the Turks and the blacks] nature is like the nature of mute animals, and according to my opinion they are not on the level of human beings” (Guide For the Perplexed, Book III, Chapter 51).

    Practical Ramifications
    Shahak recognizes that many of these traditions are not followed in practice, but he believes that, in general, they have been covered up, instead of confronted. In support of this claim, he refers to another a violent passage from Maimonides that is not translated in the bilingual addition of the Guide published in Jerusalem in 1962. He sees this as a deliberate deception on the part of the editors to soften classical Jewish militancy. His own English translation of the passage, which discusses the command to kill Jewish infidels reads: “It is a duty to exterminate them with one’s own hands. Such as Jesus of Nazareth and his pupils, and Tzadoq and Baitos [the founders of the Sadducees] and their pupils, may the name of the wicked rot.”

    According to Shahak, Jewish “traditions of contempt” infiltrated Zionism and have affected Israeli policy towards its Arab citizens and the Palestinians. He cites three main areas where he believes this has occurred: residency rights, employment rights, and equality before the law.

    As an example, he mentions that 92% of Israel’s land is legally restricted to Jews. While in other countries it would be labeled anti-Semitic if a policy excluded Jews from living on or owning land, in the Israeli context Jews tolerate it. He adds that based on the distinction in classical Judaism between reverence for Jewish cemeteries and not for non-Jewish ones, the state of Israel has destroyed hundreds of Muslim cemeteries, including one in order to build the Hilton Hotel in Tel Aviv.

    Perhaps most disturbingly, Shahak cites a booklet published by the Central Regional Command of the Israeli Army which states that it is permissible, and even encouraged, to kill civilians encountered in war. “In war, when our forces storm the enemy, they are allowed and even enjoined by the Halakhah to kill even good civilians, that is, civilians who are ostensibly good.” In a footnote, Shahak mentions that this booklet was withdrawn from circulation on the command of the Chief of Staff, but he nonetheless, believes that even the brief appearance of such a text can only be explained by an accurate assessment of the inequality in Jewish tradition between the lives of Jews and non-Jews.

    Jews Have Ignored Shahak’s Work, Others Haven’t
    Whatever your opinion of Shahak and his arguments, Jewish History, Jewish Religion should be taken seriously for a number of reasons.

    For one, the texts that Shahak cites are real (though Shahak’s sporadic use of footnotes makes it difficult to check all of them). Oftentimes, the interpretation of these texts is debatable and their prominence in Judaism negligible, but nonetheless, they are part of Jewish tradition and, therefore, cannot be ignored. And, indeed, they are not ignored. As alluded to above, Shahak’s work is very popular in both Arab and Muslim circles (Radio Islam contains the full text of Shahak’s work) as well as groups that are often openly anti-Semitic (David Duke and Bradley Smith include Shahak’s book on their websites).

    Others use Shahak’s work in their presentation of Judaism, and that fact alone should make it relevant to contemporary Jews.

    Shahak was an ardent secularist and anti-Zionist, but he wrote his book as a challenge to Jews to engage the chauvinist, dehumanizing elements of Jewish tradition and to help create a self-critical and sensitive modern Judaism. It’s true that he combed the rabbinic tradition in search of hateful passages, often–though by no means always–misinterpreting them and taking them out of context, but this may be beside the point.

    Jewish texts exist that can be–and are–understood to be vehemently xenophobic. These texts must be openly and honestly grappled with, explained, and if necessary, repudiated.

    Jarek: An Orthodox boy completes his preliminary study of the Torah by age 13 or so. But he will spend the rest of his life pouring over the Talmud. Is it more important than the Torah?! In a word, yes. They don’t make the distinction per se, but it is the lens
    through which they interpret the Torah. In any case, they believe Moses received the basic Talmud on Mt Sinai. The commentaries they admit came later.

    There is much more. You will be amazed. For example, as animals, we don’t really have any right to own property. So they have every right to cheat and steal from us. You don’t have to believe me. Get the book. It’s exactly as David Duke said. Or shell out a couple of hundred and get the Socino version of the Talmud and look up Shahak’s citations. Go o