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The desperate condition of the USA is a much greater illness than the symptomatic grievance of systemic racism — though, for the moment, that complaint galvanizes the nation’s attention because it is woven into so many strands of national myth, narrative, and historic psychodrama. The short version of systemic racism is that predatory white Europeans came upon the New World and raped it, and then, utilizing that ill-gotten treasure, proceeded to rape the rest of the world and the non-whites peacefully living there (a.k.a. Colonialism). Who has any sympathy for the rapist?

Leaving aside the omissions in that story, the USA faces a graver set of circumstances than the animus between blacks and whites. In the background these weeks of protests, riots, looting, and arson is the disintegrating economy, which signifies that pretty much everybody in this land will not be able to keep on keeping on in the ways we’re used to. Everybody will have a harder time making a living. Everybody will endure shocking losses in wealth, status, and comfort. And, sadly, everybody will be too perplexed and bamboozled by the rush of events to understand why.

The short version of that story is we’ve overshot our resources, especially the basic energy resources that all other activities require. This mystifies the public, too, but you can boil it down to the cost of getting oil out of the ground being too high for customers and not high enough for the oil producers to cover their costs — a quandary. One result has been the rapid bankruptcy of the shale oil industry. Another is the incremental impoverishment of what used to be America’s broad middle-class — a malady that has, just for now, ring-fenced off the denizens of Wall Street, the notorious One Percent (of the population), who still luxuriate in zooming share prices and dividends while everybody else sucks wind in a ditch with-or-without the added affliction of Covid-19.

The perplexed and bamboozled include the entire leadership nucleus of the land, who seem starkly unable to act coherently in the tightening vortex of crisis. While Mr. Trump seems to dimly apprehend the urgent need for economic restructuring, he’s able to express it only in messages that sound like a 1961 Frigidaire commercial, with overtones of Marvel Comics superhero grandiosity. The president may understand that a country can’t consume stuff without producing stuff, but he doesn’t get that it’s too late to bring back all that activity at the scale we used to run it when he was a young man in the 1960s. His answer to the call of restructuring — what the Soviets called perestroika before they fell apart — is to pile on more debt, that is, borrow more from the future to pay for hamburgers today.

That dovetails neatly with the needs of the financial community, led by the hapless “Jay” Powell at the Federal Reserve, who is on a mission to destroy the US dollar in order to save the banking system and its auxiliaries in the stock markets. He literally doesn’t know what to do — except “print” more dollars to support share prices, a symbolic talisman of theoretical economics that has less and less to do with what people actually do on-the-ground in the hours when they’re not sleeping. It looks unlikely that the Fed will rescue either Wall Street or Main Street. The longer he props up the former at the expense of the latter, the more certain it is that it will provoke insurrection that goes well beyond the current hostilities.

Then there is the ever-seditious opposition to Mr. Trump, the Democratic Party and its Resistance allies. Race war is their latest “solution” to the woes of a disintegrating economy, which only adds social and cultural collapse to the darkening scene. Since much of the Resistance leadership is drawn from America’s intellectual class — the news media, the campus faculties, the honchos of bureaucracy, the politicized judiciary, and the performing monkeys of Hollywood — they will end up denouncing and eating each other in their zealous competition to bring down the hated Trump by inventing ever-fresh fantasies to justify destroying western civilization and all the horses it rode in on, namely: individual liberty, free inquiry in the pursuit of truth, the rule of and due process of law, and the consent of the governed.

Never in US history has there been a faction as dishonest as today’s Democratic Party or as habituated to the application of bad faith in political conflict. Their addiction to malicious hoaxes and engineered untruths knows no limits — and naturally so, since they are motivated primarily by the dream of dissolving all boundaries in policy, law, sexual relations, and personal conduct. They’ve been busy proving the past few weeks that they’re against the social contract as a basic proposition, exhorting for an end to law enforcement while inciting street violence, crimes against property, and murder.

Many voters are onto them, of course, so the Resistance is also determined to derail the 2020 elections by any means necessary, only starting with ballot fraud but surely escalating to new, innovative chicanes and disruptions. Their chosen candidate for president — that is, their putative “leader” — is an obvious empty vessel fronting for sinister forces in the background. They stuffed Joe Biden in a basement twelve weeks ago and have no intention of setting him loose on the landscape where he would reveal his unfitness with every breath he takes and every move he makes. The news media especially, in its bad faith role, pretends not to notice, but its minions are too self-important to realize that there are other ways for citizens to learn what is happening out there.

Events are rushing ahead at a pace you can barely follow. Summer begins in another week and why, now, would you expect any lessening in civil disorders? A heat wave is upon us here in the crowded eastern US at the end of this week, and that’s always an invitation to raucous behavior on the steamy streets. Have Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi appealed to their followers to end their violence? Maybe I missed that. They are hinting at a return to Covid-19 lockdown conditions — but you can forget about anyone following that when the temperature tops ninety degrees (and certainly the Dem leadership knows that).

The devastation of small business, careers, livelihoods, households, and futures continues. Take measures to protect your own future, as far as possible. Put your energy into imagining how you can be helpful to other people, and perhaps incidentally earn their trust and their assistance in mutually beneficial ways. Think about finding a plausible place to live where the rule of law perseveres. Think about how you might fit into an economy run at a smaller scale. Start taking action on that thinking. There’s potential for a lot of people to get hurt in the disorders-to-come. There’s plenty you can do to not be one of them.

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833 Responses to “Disorders Now and To Come”

  1. Pucker June 15, 2020 at 10:01 am #

    I see that the black brother’s celebrated Trump’s birthday by burning down a Wendy’s in Atlanta, Georgia. General Sherman burned down Atlanta, but there weren’t any Wendy’s hamburger joints in Atlanta in 1864. And Dr. Cornel West was not on the scene shouting: “Chill Negro!” as he did on Fox News the other night.

    I once ate at Wendy’s about 25 years ago at a Wendy’s located near the train station in the town of Zhong Li outside of Taipei, Taiwan. I recall that Wendy’s burgers were square shaped and everything was yellow colored. They had big chocolate milk shakes in tall yellow cups. The McDonald’s in the Shenzhen train station in China at the Hong King border is better, but the staff is overworked and poorly paid, and they tend to drop the cooked meat patties on the floor before putting them on the buns and serving them to the anxious, hungry, hectored, pissed off Chinese customers fighting for a seat in the air conditioning.

    • Paulo June 15, 2020 at 10:19 am #

      Funny, I saw a picture this morning of a white woman starting the fire. Go figure.

      I quit reading this site several months ago as I got sick of the diatribe against the Democrats. I thought I would give it another try this morning, and a very good article soon descended into the old meme. (And by the way, I could care less about either party being Canadian, although Moscow Mitch seems particularly odious).

      Anyway, here we go again. I am left with one conclusion. I think JHK was turned down as a Democratic Party speechwriter a few years ago and now harbours a grudge.

      Paulo– You really are a horse’s ass. No, I disdain the Dems for the straightforward reason that they are addicted to mendacity. I suppose you just don’t follow current events up there. — JHK Admin

      It kind of reminds me of my mother-in-laws battle against the neighbours fence, when those cursed stones would roll underneath the boards and touch her patio. Of course she was in the beginning stage of Alzheimers. Oh well, I just plugged all the gaps and tried to interest her in other things. It was the about this time she started to talk back to the TV; a perfect companion. Oh well, I’ll just check in again after the election and see if the topic has changed.

      • sophia June 15, 2020 at 10:32 am #

        How about explaining why JHK is wrong and why you still think the DNC is a sincere organization.

        • JohnAZ June 15, 2020 at 11:00 am #

          He can’t. They are being exposed for what they are,


          • K-Dog June 15, 2020 at 3:02 pm #

            The beginning stage of Alzheimers

            This is the issue, not the grandmother, the Dems.

            The Democratic party is in the beginning stage of Alzheimers.

            Some of us think further along than that and I think that is the point of contention unless you are a Democratic Party church puppy which is the other end of the pendulum swing.

            Consider myself, We know I do not like Trump but hell will indeed freeze over before I will vote Biden. Consequently the Democratic Party means nothing to me. I do not like the stories on the Democratic party or Russiagate but JHK can write on what he wants to write about. It is not for me to set his priorities. I’ve moved way past the Democratic party but not everyone has. They are shit to me. As to Russiagate I think the spying done to everyday Americans is the bigger deal. It does not keep us safe and in fact endangers us.

            The Democratic party and Trump have both betrayed their base. Neither deserve respect. Taking the Democratic party betrayal out on JHK is not fair. Don’t have unrealistic expectations. Left to their own devices the Dems won’t roll out Biden until the day of the election. They need shit, not that it will matter but that is not the point. What the Democrats are doing is not OK so why is writing about them bad? These days I consider it a writers job.

            K-Dog — which is exactly why I write about RussiaGate, because the political weaponization of the DOJ and FBI are not-okay to an extreme. I remain mystified why you don’t get that, since you all but spell it out in this comment.–JHK Admin


            K-Dog for president.

          • K-Dog June 15, 2020 at 5:49 pm #

            I see Russiagate as deckchairs on the Titanic. The United States has been using deep state tactics to bring on a revolution or a coup using every color of the rainbow all over the world. For decades now. After 911 these deep state tactics came home and started to be gently used on American citizens. Under the radar as much as possible a web of surveillance now watches everything we do. For the most part it is invisible and only helps behind the scenes when we have armed nutjobs wanting to declare a ranch an independent country or something.

            But it will do what it has to do to protect itself. In America the deep state has something sort of like the prime directive if you were ever a Star-Trek fan. Don’t intervene. But there is an exception to this rule. The system will protect itself and it will mess you up if it has to under those circumstances. Do something like try and expose an operation on Government Trolls on the internet for instance. You will find you can’t do it. All news will want an email from you and your email will never get to the destination. Even breaking into NPR won’t be enough and you will be asked to leave. Homeland security requires all news be monitored if you are a serious news outlet. Your email will be returned to you in three copies with the content chopped up.

            The deep state is now calling all the shots but this statement is too simplistic. As troubles grow I doubt they can keep up but for now they can quash all dissent with a mission to protect itself and the status quo as long as it can.

            The political weaponization of the DOJ and FBI are not-okay to an extreme I agree. But the good guys already lost and the little guy gets screwed the worst. The cat is out of the bag.

            The little guy nobody misses can be ruined in silence. The political weaponizeation is nothing new and in the scheme of things I doubt anything can be done. The system can protect itself and it is willing to do what it has to do to keep the paychecks coming. We agree America lives in a false reality of dreamland and I’ll opine that guidance from the deep state is part of the reason fantasy permeates American thought. But nothing can be done.

            You want to tell me about Russiagate and I’m Louis in Casablanca.

            For those who have watched Casablanca.

            ‘It has come to my attention that there is GAMBLING going on in this establishment. I am shutting it down immediately.
            (Louis Blows Whistle)

            I croupier approaches handing Louis his winnings

            Your winnings sir,

            Thank you.

            (more feigned indignation)

            Gambling going on here I’m SHOCKED I tell you SHOCKED !

            Maybe I’m not Louis in this scene but I hope you get the point.

          • K-Dog June 15, 2020 at 6:30 pm #

            sneaking in, not breaking in

          • sophia June 16, 2020 at 12:02 am #


            Your response to JHK was not coherent to me. I think you are saying that since you don’t like Trump, you will excuse the weaponization of the DOJ and FBI.

          • K-Dog June 16, 2020 at 3:01 am #

            The DOJ and FBI are already weaponized and my point is that there is nothing anyone can do about it. The machine of the deep state can and will do whatever it wants to do to protect itself.

      • MC Hammerabi June 15, 2020 at 10:41 am #

        As a Texan, I could care less about Canadian politics. So much so, I sure as hell wouldn’t bother reading a Canadian political blog. But since you care so little as to read the blog and then accuse JHK of suffering from “the beginning stage of Alzheimers”, what say you, dear Canadian, regarding the democrat party/media/hollywood?

        Me, I don’t have the literary acumen of JHK, but I would, kindly, say they’re a dung heap of satanists.

        • hortonz June 15, 2020 at 11:33 am #

          As a Canadian living across the border from Detroit I can tell you that if you want to know what the United States will look like if the Resistance wins in November, just look at us. Our idiot-in-chief Justin Trudeau makes Trump look like a genius by comparison. Since the death of George Floyd the “Euro-Canadian” has been treated to a daily barrage of vitriolic hate courtesy of the Left and its’ nominal leader Trudeau. The official line here is that Canada is a “systematically” racist nation that was built on the subjugation of non-white Canadians who must atone for their sins by groveling at the feet of the Woke leadership and begging forgiveness. Meanwhile, the Main streets of our towns and cities are lined with shuttered and boarded up businesses, thanks to our government’s obsession with social control in the wake of the coronavirus and the prairie provinces, where some semblance of rational thinking exists, is on the verge of calling it quits and leaving this federation led by an idiot man-child who is still popular in the central parts of the country. Go Figure.

          • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 1:29 pm #

            while your own country accepts lots of third worlders.

          • Amman June 15, 2020 at 1:54 pm #

            What happened to Canada?

          • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 4:00 pm #

            Good ol “dirty face” Trudeau. The spiritual father of Mayor Jacob Frey.

          • steelrust June 18, 2020 at 6:47 am #

            “Funny” as it almost seems that you are describing the situation that we have here in Italy. Same p.c. leftist scum at the wheel, same moronic kind of so called “leader” (our is Mr. “Giuseppi” Conte), same massive business closures, etc..
            We, for now at least, have less of the so called “racism” problem, but the lestist scum is bending over backward to put a “remedy” to this grave oversight, helping the criminal NGOs to fill the country with the so called “refugees” (i.e.: mainly military-age illegal aliens with a background of criminal activity in their country).
            I don’t know what is the mentality of the “true” Canadian, and so how your people will react in the long run, but here in Italy many of the forces that want to destroy our country (internal AND external ones, with Mr. S. as the first suspect) should maybe remember that Fascism (in its true political sense) was born HERE a century ago, and for similar reasons & from a spontaneous popolar reaction…

        • shotho June 15, 2020 at 12:07 pm #

          You know, I’ve often wondered why foreigners are so interested in American politics, especially Europeans? I have a good friend in France who cannot communicate without excoriating Trump. Ole Mr. Trump is deep inside their brains now. All he has to do is tweet and their heads explode. Generally, Americans are completely uninterested and uninformed of politics outside the USA. Maybe this is a symptom of ethnocentrism or maybe we just think it’s none of our business.

          • abbybwood June 15, 2020 at 12:50 pm #

            I heard yesterday that 800,000 people have tried to get tickets for Trump’s next rally in Tulsa!

            That news must be causing DNC brains to explode, especially considering that Biden couldn’t draw 800! people to a rally for him! Plus most would just go to watch his next set of verbal blunders wondering, “Maybe THIS will be Biden’s last public appearance??”

            Biden gives away his mental decline with his boggled words, vacant stares and temple rubbing.

            Elder abuse. Add that to the list of the DNC’s sins.

          • benr June 15, 2020 at 1:20 pm #


            Thank you what Bidets wife is doing to him is elder abuse!
            She should be protecting him not putting him out there to be dazed and confused.
            What is wrong with that women?

          • Kakadu Man June 15, 2020 at 3:21 pm #

            I heard yesterday that 800,000 people have tried to get tickets for Trump’s next rally in Tulsa!

            Source for this? But even if remotely true, it’s a little surprising … people of the Midwest are usually practical and sensible.

          • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2020 at 3:47 pm #

            OK is Trump Country.

            America — outside a few sh#thole, dystopic urban areas controlled by Dems for the past 60 years — is Trump Country.


          • Soul Forensics June 15, 2020 at 4:16 pm #

            “I’ve often wondered why foreigners are so interested in American politics”

            There’s an old expression in Canada: “When the U.S. sneezes, Canada gets a cold.”

            Many other direct reasons, including fact that about 70% of international trade from Canada is with the U.S.

            Our embarrassing (to me) self-righteousness regarding opinions of the U.S. is blatant hypocrisy. Our own sins are similar in kind, if not degree. Thankfully, a new Conservative party leader is emerging that hopefully will get Trudeau turfed next election.

          • Majella June 15, 2020 at 8:26 pm #


            I have observed that in the American media, “Foreign News” is mostly about what happens to Americans who are overseas.

      • Billy Hill June 15, 2020 at 10:45 am #

        Focus on that photograph of Nancy Pelosi, Schumer, et.al. and say to yourself “these are fine, honest, God-fearing people.”

      • benr June 15, 2020 at 10:47 am #

        There are none so blind as those who REFUSE to see.
        Open your eyes and you might see Jim is 100% correct.

      • JohnAZ June 15, 2020 at 10:59 am #

        The truth shall set you free.

        The Leftist blindness to what is going on is being exposed like never before. Their methods are become so odious that some of their backers are backing off.

        JHK is reacting to the same things I do, the destruction to the basic tenets that has run this country for 250 years. This is no longer the difference of opinion over how to run those tenets. One side has declared war against the tenets of the country in favor of international influence. A good analogy would be Tories and patriots in 1776 where Tories were trying to tear down the revolution with every political means possible.

        The Progressives are inspired by anti-American ideals. The mainstream Dems have been sucked into the current. The RINOs in their fury to preserve the MIC and Deep State are hopping on the band wagon. They are forgetting one thing, the people are getting wise to them. We will see in November how much.

        We have a party of big business, we need a party representing the Everyman of our society. The Democratic Party has destroyed its claim to this title. Their lust for Federal power has destroyed their credibility.

        The good working people need a new party once Trump is gone. Who will take the baton?

      • fugeguy June 15, 2020 at 10:59 am #

        I always say pox on both houses but the democrats have been caught in serial lies and fabrications. Once caught the media ignores the revealed lie or fabrication and the democrats unabashedly move on to the next lie or fabrication.

        Are we to ignore this? Trump is dubious and stupendously arrogant but the democrats are at least dishonest/ treacherous and most likely treasonous.

        All of this supports the following conclusion by JHK:

        “inventing ever-fresh fantasies to justify destroying western civilization and all the horses it rode in on, namely: individual liberty, free inquiry in the pursuit of truth, the rule of and due process of law, and the consent of the governed.”

        The combination of which despite poor execution is what makes western culture superior to most others (IMHO).


        • JohnAZ June 15, 2020 at 11:16 am #

          One interesting thing is who is the initiator of dirty deeds and who is the reactor. Who has been so successful at loading the political scene over the decades. Who owns the media? Who owns the judiciary? The entire DC area, demographically, is Liberal and represents the bureaucracy of the Feds. The Dems have been very successful at taking over the Deep State. They have loaded the universities with Marxists and promoted the import of millions of immigrants that cause disunity of the country.

          The Dems initiate and the GOP reacts. Their responses are horrible, being hampered by a RINO group that are really Liberal supporters of the Deep State.

          Trump, with all his bodaciousness, is smarter than the whole group of losers in DC. He has beat them down somewhat, just not enough as what is needed. Defeat of him in November by a really incompetent Democratic surge will trumpet the end of 20th century American ideals.

          • Q. Shtik June 15, 2020 at 2:28 pm #

            The entire DC area, demographically, is Liberal – JohnAZ


            If you think the DC area is Liberal you ain’t seen nothin’.

            The other day I received an “Official Mail-In Ballot” from Middlesex County, NJ. It is to be used for the Primary Election, Tuesday, July 7,2020. Within the envelope are 4 items. One of them begins with the words Dear Voter and goes on to explain why the voting this year will be via a mail-in ballot (Covid 19, of course). This message is repeated in three languages, English, Spanish, and a language that I do not recognize which, at first glance, I thought might be Hebrew but isn’t since I can see that it reads from left to right. My research revealed it to be one of the Indian languages (dot, not feather), specifically Gujarati. This makes sense since Middlesex County contains a density of Indians (particularly in the towns of Iselin and Edison) that rivals Calcutta. Seriously.

            Beside the ballot itself (which I will discuss momentarily) there are two envelopes, one yellow and one green. The yellow one is titled “Certificate of Mail-In Voter.” There are all kinds of instructions and places to sign and everything is in 3 languages. There is a red block containing this message: “For your vote to count, you must seal your ballot in this envelope and complete and sign the attached certificate.” There is a boldly marked perforation line under which it states Do Not Detach! in 3 languages. If the voter got assistance in preparing these materials to vote, the person providing the assistance must sign their name, print their name, and enter their address.

            This yellow envelope eventually gets inserted in the green envelope which is slightly larger and has on its back elaborate instructions in 3 languages. On the front of the green envelope there is a block where the voter must sign and print their name and address. The instructions for this block seem to indicate that the voters vote will not be counted if this section is not properly completed. The last sentence in this block says “No person who is a candidate in the election for which the voter requests this ballot is permitted to serve as a bearer.”

            Now comes the Piece de Resistance, the ballot itself.

            It contains in 5 columns the names of the various candidates and/or delegates, everyone of which is a democrat. The 5 columns are labeled Democratic A, Democratic B, etc. There are NO republicans or 3rd party candidates. There are 6 rows beginning with President (and associated District Delegates) and ending with Members of Borough Council. You are instructed to vote for 2 of these Borough Council candidates and since there are only 2 names running these 2 are shoe-ins for the positions. The other rows are for Senator, House of Reps, County Clerk, and Board of Chosen Freeholders. The Democratic A column contains names on the 2nd thru 5th rows, but none on the 1st row (President) nor the 6th row (Borough Council). Under each name in this Democratic A column it says “Not Me. Us.” I have no clue what this means. Under all the names in the Democratic B column it says “Middlesex County Democratic Organization”. This is the column that begins with Biden for President.

            Sorry to bore you with all of this but my question is: Do you think anything might go awry in this process?

            I predict this Primary Election process will be a disaster in Middlesex County, NJ

            Imagine if the US of A does mail-in voting on Nov 3rd.

          • Jo-G June 16, 2020 at 1:50 am #

            to Q. Shtik mail in voting “Dear Voter and goes on to explain why the voting this year will be via a mail-in ballot (Covid 19, of course). ”
            Korea (ROK) held their national elections during the ongoing pandemic. They published guidelines; 2 meter distancing, hand sanitizing, masks, separate voting area and days for covid positive people. I walked by the village hall voting place- a cramped building. I couldn’t go in because of our more strict rules- we were at HPCON C+ at the time. I could see through the door that they weren’t being strict about the guidelines. The Koreans are meticulous about contact tracing. Two weeks later they announced that they hadn’t traced a single transmission to the voting process. They had a 66% voter turnout. This mail in idea seems like a fake issue. I’ve never voted in a place as cramped as the Korean village halls so enforcing the same guidelines in the U.S. should produce the same results as the Koreans obtained- with respect to an increase in Covid-19 cases.

        • abbybwood June 15, 2020 at 1:43 pm #

          I hope Barr and Durham are working on their October Surprise.

          Not to help Trump, but to reveal the truth to the American people about the obvious attempted coup against a duly elected president. Indictments must rain down or else these type crimes of sedition will continue unimpeded.

          And one of Biden’s top choices for Vice President is none other than Susan Rice, Obama’s National Security Adviser. And she is Black and she is a woman. Check, check, check.

          Susan Rice also happens to be deep into the thick of the coup, and I’ll betcha she has already been chosen! Wanna talk about the Deep State LITERALLY running against Trump?! Susan Rice is a major rep.

          Godspeed to Barr and Durham!

          • Ricechex June 15, 2020 at 10:34 pm #

            To Q—-thanks for the summary of the mail in ballot. This is the kind of information I get here and do not see anywhere else. REAL LIFE. I’ve been voting mail in ballot for a decade, in CA. One envelope, yes all the languages, etc.

            I also have noted that there are NO Republicans to vote for for certain political positions. I have assumed that there just were not any Republicans running for such office. I am in southern CA. Do you think otherwise?

          • Q. Shtik June 16, 2020 at 12:30 am #

            I have assumed that there just were not any Republicans running for such office. I am in southern CA. Do you think otherwise? – Ricechex


            In the case of Middlesex County, NJ and the town within that County that I live in, the population is so totally Liberal/Democrat that they can’t find a Conservative/Republican willing to waste his or her time in a thankless fruitless effort. The main campus of Rutgers Univ is a stone’s throw from my home. RU is notoriously liberal.

            I have not voted in decades as I can’t tolerate politics, politicians, and political pundits.

          • MontanaMan June 16, 2020 at 4:37 pm #

            If what Messers Barr and Durham are up too, winds up
            “RAINING-DOWN-INDICTMENTS,” from lets say James Comey or higher, and then back down through the rank & file, it will wind up helping “your President” regardless if you like it or not.

      • K-Dog June 15, 2020 at 11:05 am #

        “Oh well, I’ll just check in again after the election and see if the topic has changed.”

        Assuming there is an election could be one assumption too many.

      • teddyboy46 June 15, 2020 at 11:15 am #

        Paulo, Please stop reading JHK and commenting. So the rest of us can have an Intelligent discussion. BTW I am an Independent voter and I too have rejected the Propaganda of both parties.

        • MontanaMan June 16, 2020 at 4:38 pm #

          So, your not going to vote in this upcoming “ Presidential Election” I see. Then you have nothing to bitch about.

      • Q. Shtik June 15, 2020 at 12:13 pm #

        Paulo– You really are a horse’s ass. — JHK Admin


        Hahaha ha ha. It’s comforting to know that someone ranks higher on Jim’s shit list than me.

        • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 1:27 pm #

          besides noticing my typo, what did you do?

          i was threatened with a ban for mocking some ethnic group [I forget which]

          • Majella June 15, 2020 at 8:30 pm #

            …and don’t dare call anyone a “d**kh**d”. That’s way more egregious than ‘horse’s ass’/

      • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 1:25 pm #

        Paul desperately clings to that o at the end his name – thus proving his ethnic bona fides. Nothing is worse than being just another White Male after all.

        • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 1:31 pm #

          paulO could be White, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian?

      • Amman June 15, 2020 at 1:45 pm #

        You don’t have to check in you know.

      • John I-Y June 15, 2020 at 7:40 pm #

        paulo – you ‘could care less’ or you ‘couldn’t care less’? If you don’t get the grammatical difference maybe you don’t get a lot of things. I mean, I’d assume it was a typo, except I’ve noted flocks of muddle headed Americans muddling that simple phrase.

        • Majella June 15, 2020 at 8:31 pm #

          I have the same bone to pick with ‘Merican English, John I-Y

        • benr June 16, 2020 at 9:12 am #

          Not to defend Paulo the horses ass but who cares it’s a message board.
          Some of you people really must have nothing to do.
          Pick apart his content not how he expressed himself.

          • Q. Shtik June 16, 2020 at 1:07 pm #

            who cares it’s a message board. – benr


            Sorry to disappoint you, benr, but I do.

          • benr June 16, 2020 at 5:42 pm #

            @ Q

            You must lead a very frustrating life.

          • Majella June 17, 2020 at 9:15 pm #

            benr- you swing wildly from unpunctuated drool like this to quite erudite & eloquent posts when you take your time. Or is it C&Ping?

          • benr June 18, 2020 at 8:23 am #


            What does C&Ping mean I don’t know the term.

      • HelloEileen June 18, 2020 at 8:21 pm #

        Precisely my feelings as well, Paulo.

        I signed up and signed in just to comment this one time. I’ve read and known about JHK since…oh….a decade or so. I used to love coming here and being educated on issues from all fronts…

        But I’ve noticed a real shift, it maybe had something to do with JHK’s hip replacement and the subsequence bitterness for all things medical (I agree, but the diatribe is getting worn).

        Democrats are bad. Pelosi bad. Anything liberal bad. Black bad (and should always know that if they’d just work harder at school and go to college, they’d be just like US!).

        Not a negative thing to say about “Grab ’em by the pu$$y” and the filth that is in the WH at this time. The entity that has pulled discourse in this country down so far, I’ve disconnected my television and refuse to even discuss politics in any way, shape for form.

        Nothing but filthy talk and nasty comments (isn’t that one of Cheetoh’s favorite things to call anybody who challenges his delusional thinking?) from the WH.

        But we have a vaccine for HIV! Nope.
        But the coronavirus is just going to fade away! Nope.
        But I fired Kelley. And Bolton. And…. Nope.
        But I passed a trillion dollar bailout to help America! Nope.
        But I was only protecting Ivanka from her momentary lapse in intelligent thought when she used her personal email to conduct government business (as JHK is so fond of lambasting HRC for doing just this)! Nope.

        How about addressing the firing of flash grenades at peaceful protestors…you know…our Constitutional right to protest unfair or unjust government? Nope.

        How about mentioning Cheetoh’s divide and conquer strategy—stoke up hate and rancor instead of showing ANY kind of leadership? Nope.

        How about commenting on Cheetoh’s “uber conservative filmmaker pal” Pack buying up 4 state owned media outlets to “have them conform to the president’s wishes”? Nope.

        Bad Democrats. Pelosi bad. Taking a knee bad. Protesting bad. Being underpriveleged bad.

        Being woman….especially bad.

        Poor Pelosi—she’s got the trifecta of doom from JHK since she’s a woman, a Democrat and works for government.

        This thing that you have, JHK—about women “emasculating” men—is there something you want to get off your chest? I mean something personal? Because this misogyny is just one last straw for anybody who actually listened to what you were saying.

        And Sophia?


        Paulo NEVER said that the DNC was a “sincere organization”. You may want to take a class in reading comprehension.

        • Exscotticus June 20, 2020 at 1:37 am #

          So that’s your list of grievances? The first one was “Grab ’em by the pu$$y”. Shall we assume that’s your #1 grievance?

          Can you link to your #1 Obama grievance? That you surely posted somewhere given his eight years in office? I just want to compare the two.

          Mine would be the time Obama extrajudicially assassinated an unarmed American teen with a drone strike.

          Kinda puts your grievance into perspective for the triviality that it is.

      • Exscotticus June 20, 2020 at 1:24 am #

        >>> “…although Moscow Mitch…”

        And there you gave yourself away. First to claim that you “could [sic] less about either party being Canadian”. But then to use a very specific Dem appellation that is as telling as referring to Trump as “Donny”.

    • Paul Ford O'Neil June 15, 2020 at 11:39 am #


      Karl Denninger has an interesting and I think starkly correct analysis of this event: “Anyone who thinks this whole thing with Floyd and the police is really a racism issue – you have rocks in your head – It’s a POLICE BRUTALITY issue.”

      Time Mark: 51:45


      Until the ‘murder for jay-walking’ codes are rescinded and the field operations of ‘police’ severly restricted, people will needlessly die.

      Meanwhile, I learned in the 1990s – NEVER TALK TO COPS!

      Simply ask – Officer do you have PROBABLE CAUSE to believe

      I have
      I am or
      I am going to
      commit a crime?

      The usual answer is dead-air-time, a restatement of their accusation, threat, etc. or in rare cases “No.”

      You then Reply – Am I under arrest?

      The usual answer is again restatement – dead-air-time, or in rare cases “No.”

      You then Reply – Am I free to go?


      Because you know and they realize you understand the word-game and will not respond to their


      to get you to SAY ANYTHING that will allow them to ARREST YOU.

      After playing several rounds of this word-game:



      The usual answer at this moment is “Have a nice day.”

      You continue on your way, thanking your Guardian Angel for the gift of SILENCE.

      Unfortunatey, the victim in this case was probably ignorant of the WORD-GAME, inebriated and alone, so his chances of avoiding jail or worse were somewhat less than -0-.

      The cops who confronted him are just as victimized by this WORD GAME as he, because they are throughly brain-washed to treat their fellow Americans as TERRORISTS and this is the ONLY ‘modus operandi’ to enable COPS to make a living.

      So deleterious is this game on COPS that their conscience overwhelms them and they take out their guilt on their families, friends, society and other COPS, which is why they have some of the highest rates of abuse, divorce and suicide of any modern ‘profession.’

      If I were to make a significant – instant – peaceful and most importantly EFFECTIVE impact on these tragedies I would:

      1.) Locate ALL

      Domestic Corporations
      Foreign Corporations
      Experts – Persons
      Police Chiefs/Departments
      State-County-City governments

      associated with any ‘business/individual/police/sheriff/security’ personnel involved in one of these tragedies.

      2.) Identify the RISK MANAGER of each entity. [4,5,6 entities & individuals?]

      3.) Ask for and file a RISK MANAGEMENT CLAIM with each:

      for whatever compensation is permitted under ‘wrongful death’ statutes in the ‘state/county/city’ wherein the tragedy took place.

      Let the ‘Risk Management Administrative Review’ take its course.

      The results are quick & unbelievable.

      Carry-on til you are carrion . . .

      • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 1:26 pm #


      • benr June 15, 2020 at 1:28 pm #

        Or it could be that they deal with literally the scum and the salt of the earth and sometimes its really hard to tell them apart.
        After awhile you learn to just accept most people are lying to you in order to avoid the ticket or worse.
        Next every traffic stop could turn violent and they are suffering a form of PTSD.

        Now to add insult to injury even when attempting to do you job properly you now have people who refuse to submit to authority no matter how guilty and red handed they have been caught.
        So instead they fight being handcuffed and it escalates to the point someone really does get hurt or worse.

        Anyone who has not done a ride along really should it is eye opening even COPS on TV does not do justice to the sheer amount of bullshit most cops put up with daily.

        • Amman June 15, 2020 at 1:51 pm #

          “Or it could be that they deal with literally the scum of the earth.”

          • benr June 16, 2020 at 9:13 am #

            Well there is that as well.
            How ever even good people occasionally have to deal with Cops.
            It can be one of the most dangerous couple of minutes in your life.

        • Epicur June 16, 2020 at 10:45 am #

          @ benr

          “Or it could be that they deal with literally the scum … of the earth…”

          For a large segment of the population it is a matter of denial that the named “scum of the earth” exists. While I agree that the term “scum” is pretty harsh for most (barring serial killers and other predators), many, if not most, people buy into the idea that, if people do not fit into society it is only because society is a monster that mistreats them.

          Most people live in a fantasy world where humans are precious innocents suffering under the yoke of “oppression”.

        • SpeedyBB June 19, 2020 at 6:29 am #


          I’m going to share that succinct summary around if you don’t mind.

          You hit the nail where it needs to be hit.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 1:30 pm #

        No it’s a race issue because Blacks want it to be a race issue and the Elite empower them in this. One issue doesn’t cancel out another. And you complaint is of it being illogical may be true, but that doesn’t change the fact.

      • rainmaker June 15, 2020 at 1:34 pm #

        Who brain-washes the cops to see their fellow Americans as terrorists? Their orders come from higher up. Democratic run cities for $200 Alex!

      • Jeremy June 15, 2020 at 3:02 pm #

        Never, EVER talk to a cop!!

        Funny, but factual!

        Regent Law Professor James Duane gives viewers startling reasons why they should always exercise their 5th:


  2. SouthernYankee June 15, 2020 at 10:02 am #

    If we read between the lines then the next World Economic Forum in Davos confirms what JHK has been saying all along. The age of cheap, abundant petroleum is over and the industrial/financial edifice upon which it was based will and must (according to the WEF) collapse. “Sustainability” is doublespeak for “The living standards of those in the West will be reduced to that of the rest of the world” and certainly not the other way around. No more champagne for Joe plumber on that transatlantic flight to a Swiss ski resort. So the pandemic, though real, was already baked into the mix as a control mechanism, perhaps as a response to Trump’s “poor spirit of cooperation” but also as a desperate measure due to the lack of expected response on the part the American population at large on the issue of climate change which was initially formulated as the rallying point for mass social engineering. The Socialist movement now in vogue – the overarching method to manage the transition to a powered down world and a World Made by Hand. Of course, it will be Capitalism for the .01% and Socialism for the rest of us. Welcome to the future. Please refrain from consuming.

    Now Comes the Davos ‘Great Reset’ | New Eastern Outlook

    • Rodster June 15, 2020 at 10:22 am #

      “If we read between the lines then the next World Economic Forum in Davos confirms what JHK has been saying all along. The age of cheap, abundant petroleum is over and the industrial/financial edifice upon which it was based will and must (according to the WEF) collapse. ”

      Actually it’s Gail Tverberg from Ourfiniteworld.com who has been saying for many years. The idea that energy prices are too high for the consumer and much too low for the energy producers to extract. That’s her definition of Peak Oil (Economics).

      • SouthernYankee June 15, 2020 at 10:48 am #

        Does it really matter who said first?

        • Rodster June 15, 2020 at 5:11 pm #

          Yes it does because you are giving credit where credit isn’t due. Gail Tverberg has been beating this message since the Oildrum website days which is way longer than JHK has come around to the idea that prices are too high for the consumer and too low for the producers.

          • SouthernYankee June 15, 2020 at 11:29 pm #

            Gee, I never realized that the purpose of this blog was to accurately credit the source of academic discourse. Thank you for correcting me. Now I can resume my erroneous path of participating in community dialogue.

      • EnterpriseSpaceship June 15, 2020 at 12:06 pm #

        Actually, one of the primary aspects of the Western Civilisation’s problem today is that Economics was selling fossil fuels so cheap as if looted – all along – and that has crushed the market value of the humans’ muscle and brain power next to $0.

        Therefore, even if oil is sold for $0, the problem will never disappear – yet alone fossil fuels are finite and they are disappearing in a hurry;


        • SouthernYankee June 15, 2020 at 12:33 pm #

          Good point Enterprise. It was a vast orgy which nobody wanted to end….until there was no choice.

  3. RaymondR June 15, 2020 at 10:16 am #

    We live in the season of black swans. Only a couple have landed; the rest are lazily doing circuits around the pond until they feel like landing. Remember, black swans are larger relatives of the evil Canada Goose.

    • elysianfield June 15, 2020 at 10:47 am #

      “We live in the season of black swans.”

      If you had a sense of juvenile humor, and metaphor, you might suggest that we live in the season of black schwanz….

  4. akmofo June 15, 2020 at 10:16 am #

    That dovetails neatly with the needs of the financial community, led by the hapless “Jay” Powell at the Federal Reserve, who is on a mission to destroy the US dollar in order to save the banking system and its auxiliaries in the stock markets.

    That’s not how it works. Most US dollars are held abroad. The problem for the Federal Reserve is not so much the US stock market. The problem for the Federal Reserve is the rest of the world which holds US denominated debt. When the US dollar gets too strong the rest of the world cannot pay its US debts and their economies get destroyed. Their economies gets destroyed and US export markets get destroyed. US export markets get destroyed and the US multinationals and stock market will get destroyed. It’s a viscous circle.

    Would you like some Grey Poupon with that:

    As foreign economies get destroyed, their countries are plunged into civil war. You see this in the ME, and now in the heart of Europe. In Dijon, France, there are active gun battles between rival Jihadi gangs today. The French police in typical fashion is in hiding. The lying MSM conceals all that, but their days too are numbered as they’ve lost all credibility and have negative mindshare among the public.

    • akmofo June 15, 2020 at 10:30 am #

      I should add that the British are not much better. British police are already taking the knee and prostrating themselves and the country in front of their hostile foreign internal populations. Of-course, this submission will only wet the appetite of the Jihadists and it will not be long before we will see scenes of mass arson looting riots and civil war hit Britain as we see in Paris, France. Our dearest, Mrs Green, will console herself that the Jihadists in Edinburgh are different. Until they’re not.

      • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2020 at 11:12 am #

        It looks like the French have more backbone than the British. I know, it’s hard to believe, but Macron announced yesterday that no public monuments will be coming down. Of course there are hundreds of thousands of Jihadists inside France who beg to differ …


        • scoubidou123 June 15, 2020 at 12:58 pm #

          Though it is true that Macron has made in recent months a couple of declarations that show a modicum of opposition to the intersectional dogma, I would not say the French have more backbone than anyone else.

          The multicultural decay in French society is more advanced than in most other countries, but it’s not pretty anywhere. Here is Brussels:

      • GreenAlba June 15, 2020 at 11:14 am #

        Dearest Mr Mofo

        I’m afraid I’m with the Metropolitan Police Commissioner Cressida Dick, who instructed the police under her command not to kneel during protests. What they do when they’re out of uniform and on their own time is their own business, but it’s entirely right that they should be told not to kneel while managing a street protest.

        I have no idea what is going on in central Edinburgh at the moment, sorry. But it’s exceedingly quiet here and yet within a short walking distance, so I’m guessing not much.

        • akmofo June 15, 2020 at 11:41 am #

          Dearest Mrs Green, I’ll let you in on a little secret, I have photos of uniformed British police just yesterday taking the knee, and essentially begging for their lives from being lynched in front of the ravenous Jihadi mob. I’ll let you in on another little secret, if them lazy blacks can get from LA to Santa Monica, them Jihadists can just as easily visit your quiet neighborhood. Mind you, you might be too old and shriveled to attract much sexual attention, but Ahmed has been known to rape and kill even 90 year olds, so don’t lose hope.

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2020 at 12:56 pm #

            Dearest Mr Mofo

            I don’t need to see your photos as it’s not a secret. I’ve seen British policemen (the Hertfordshire force, I believe) taking the knee. I just don’t happen to think it’s appropriate while they’re in uniform and managing a protest, while remaining neutral.

            And I suspect most of their colleagues in the wider country would probably agree with me.

            However, nor do I believe they were ‘essentially begging for their lives’ – that’s just a bit more of your pearl-clutching high drama.

            Re my quiet neighbourhood, I’ve told you already I have Ahmeds among my neighbours. You’d hardly know they were there, were it not for the useful businesses they run.

            There’s a larger-than-life, particularly jovial one who lives about three doors down and gives me a beaming smile every time I see him. He doesn’t know my name, but he knows I’m his neighbour. And he wouldn’t hurt a fly.

            See the little girl on the left of this photo?


            The cute teen on the right raped and murdered her, after getting into her house at night and taking her out of her bed (he knew her and planned it). His mother recognised him on CCTV footage and dobbed him in to the police. It was on the Isle of Bute, where I doubt there are many Ahmeds.

            You need to take a broader view of humanity and those who don’t show any.

          • akmofo June 15, 2020 at 1:29 pm #

            Yes, them billy clubs and cute yellow vests are going to be very useful when 150,000 Jihadistanis stashed away at Manchester city come at you with butcher knifes meat cleavers machetes molotov cocktails and just plain old iron rods. Maybe better to just take the knee and learn to recite Koranic verses in Arabic? What would be your choice of action, Mrs Green? Allahu Ahbad!

      • hortonz June 15, 2020 at 2:02 pm #

        Not to mention all those Jihadists in Toronto and Montreal who are collecting CERB checks courteous of our generous Federal government. To all those who are intent on destroying Western Civilization let it be know that Justin Trudeau feels your pain.

    • scoubidou123 June 15, 2020 at 12:29 pm #

      Dijon: Algerians are more numerous, but my money is on the Chechens, vicious berserker fanatics that they are.


      Vive la France!

  5. doggersize June 15, 2020 at 10:17 am #

    the democrats are no worse than the republicans. Americans have little knowledge or interest in what American policies are. Lower Class whites have to spend more time with lower class blacks: so it is easier to talk them into voting against whoever most of the blacks are voting for.

    abortion needs to stay legal, because that makes it easier for folks to collect votes by telling people they want to make abortion illegal. it is right wing “virtue signalling”.

    the american dollar will “collapse” in terms of no longer being the worlds “reserve currency” regardless of domestic policies. America’s primary exports are wheat, soybeans, and corn. And Failed Regime Change Operations that cost trillions of dollars. The Failed Regime Change Operations are an acceptable form of Make-Work to Americans, because it reminds them of their ancestors Winning World War Two, and of the FLAG on top of an NFL Football Game.

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    • benr June 15, 2020 at 10:53 am #

      You are wrong Democrats at this time are vastly worse than Republicans.
      Another one who can’t see.

      The rise of hope and change caused the Republicans to rebrand themselves for the most part to a better platform more in keeping with sanity.

      The other side double down on nonsense, racial and gender politics and victimhood.
      Grievance politics only leads to more of the same in a never ending cycle of insanity and more demands.
      That is the fruit of the Democrat party a party folly and anger simmering in the summer heat like a bushel of festering apples rotting each other till the core is slimy and covered in mold.

      • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 11:57 am #

        he democrats are worse than the republicans.

        1965 immigration act


        Hate crime laws

        what else?

      • Majella June 15, 2020 at 8:45 pm #

        Oh, yeah?

        Cop this Lindsay Graham election ad:


  6. SW June 15, 2020 at 10:17 am #

    What’s happening in Seattle says it all. And it looks like the wheels are coming off that block party:

    “On Friday, one video showed a protester – clad in a blue helmet and covering his face – climbing up to attempt to remove a sign that read “Welcome to the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone,” which hung over Pine Street.The video, posted by journalist Julio Rosas, showed the crowd below him shouting and arguing before the man eventually came down, leaving the sign intact. It appears the CHAZ street sign is staying for now as the man climbed off the ladder and a struggle broke out over control of the ladder.

    A woman asks, “Is anyone in charge?” Rosas tweeted.”

    No, Rosas, no one is in charge. Well, maybe Al Sharpton after he rests up from the state funeral of GF and plots his next move.

    I had lunch with a Mexican-American friend yesterday who said “we’re getting what we deserve — minorities have been ignored in the history books, discriminated against and people have had enough.” I asked her where she thought this was going and what a solution might be and got the standard answer — I don’t know.

    You’re right, Jim, save yourself and loved ones as much as possible. This is going to spiral out of control even more as the summer progresses and there’re no jobs that pay a living wage, tax revenues go thru the floor, and the aggrieved see an opportunity to “get even”.

    • doggersize June 15, 2020 at 10:43 am #

      it took less than 30 years of television and shopping malls and cheap suburbs and fast food franchises for americans to get dumb enough to take Ronald Reagan seriously. Jimmy Carter was our last fiscally conservative president, and he proved most people don’t like that.

      Anyways, these kids in Seattle have had less than 30 years of the internet and dozens or hundreds of cable/satellite television stations. perhaps this internet age has a higher defect rate in terms of its influence on people or culture.

      • SW June 15, 2020 at 11:31 am #

        They also have little knowledge on how a community or even a home is actually run. I guess the food ran out several days ago and calls were put out for vegan supplies. I wonder what happens when the plumbing goes kaput and the trash piles up. In the sitcoms they grew up watching there was no laundry, roof leaks or bare cupboards.

        • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2020 at 12:59 pm #

          Inside the Seattle Revolutionary Zone there are stores to loot and private property to expropriate, which should keep them going and extra week or two.

          And don’t be surprised if these Woke rebels eventually resort to cannibalism … it wouldn’t be the first time that happened in a communist country … no, Ukraine in 1933 and NKorea 1996 are examples … precedents have been set.


          • doggersize June 15, 2020 at 1:11 pm #

            the russians pillaged the ukrainians. but there are always regional famines in russia, no matter what political or economic system is in place.

      • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 12:00 pm #

        He gave away the Panama canal and over all was a fool.
        Nixon at least mentioned the danger of immigration for America.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 1:37 pm #

      So why is she here? And why is she friends with you or you with her?

      • SW June 15, 2020 at 2:22 pm #

        Her family came to the US preWWI and have lived in Texas ever since. I can be friends with someone I don’t share political beliefs with or disagree about issues. We worked together 10 years and I respect her as a person even though I believe her interpretation of events or political leaders is wrong. There is such a thing as respectfully disagreeing and we’ll never understand each other if we don’t listen to what another person is saying.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 2:45 pm #

          Deep friendship means a sharing of values. This overlaps with political ideas. Respectful disagreement about these things should lead to respectful separation as the South attempted to do in before the North attacked. It wasn’t a Civil War in other words because it wasn’t a fight over the same polity or piece of land.

          Non-Whites don’t accept that Whites have any collective rights. But of course they do and you accept that. Massive power imbalance. She deigns to accept you as one of the “few good ones”. And you accept this? Please thing again.

          • SW June 15, 2020 at 4:36 pm #

            We do share the same values, not the same political beliefs. I believe her when she tells me her father suffered many slights b/c he was a Mexican in Texas. I believe we have an opportunity to learn from what someone else has to say–not grovel or take a knee on command, but listen. How else does anything get any better? And I admit many times this is not reciprocated but it doesn’t mean we don’t have an obligation to do so.

            I’ve had far more serious clashes with white friends and relatives over political issues that had nothing to do with race. During the Senate hearings for Kavanaugh I expressed the opinion that I didn’t find Christine Blasey-Ford’s testimony compelling. That’s it and you’d have thought I said Trump is a human being or something equally outrageous.

    • cbills June 16, 2020 at 6:40 am #

      “You’re right, Jim, save yourself and loved ones as much as possible. This is going to spiral out of control even more as the summer progresses and there’re no jobs that pay a living wage, tax revenues go thru the floor, and the aggrieved see an opportunity to “get even”.”

      Anonymous – sometime before the American Revolution

  7. catharsis June 15, 2020 at 10:21 am #

    I have admired Mr. Kunstler for 20 years and have read nearly all of his fiction and non-fiction. This reading has also shown that when Mr. Kunstler strays from his primary fields or touches on his prejudices, such as race relations, he doesn’t have much meaningful to say.

    Unfortunately, he often employs his considerable intellect in the service of these prejudices, as in his recent two columns about the George Floyd demonstrations. He deals in logical fallacies, sophistry, and ignores history. As we know his erudition on other topics, one can only conclude that he is blind to his own prejudice, or simply enjoys stirring the pot. The following is a response to his ‘assertions’ of fact, innuendo and dog whistles.

    Virtually none of the many publicized police incidents ending in death began in response to an actual crime in progress – certainly not a violent one. Many began as questionable traffic stops, police showing up at wrong addresses, or police acting before knowing what was going on. Almost none of the victims initiated violence.

    Floyd’s, or anyone’s, past criminal record is irrelevant, as the police generally don’t know the suspect at the time of confrontation. Even ex-felons maintain their civil, human and legal rights, and certainly none of the past crimes of these victims were punishable by death. A policeman is not St. Peter, whose job it is to weigh our life works to determine our ultimate fate.

    Likewise, the presence of drugs in a person’s system is not germane to deciding whether they live or die, unless that drug spurs them to violence. (Since alcohol leads the list of violence inducing drugs, police would be justified in shooting most Americans during a traffic stop.)

    What is relevant is the history of a responding policeman, which in the case of George Floyd is a long history of citizen complaints and use of excessive force. Kunstler does not mention this.

    Kunstler asks, ‘Why are young black men sent to prison’, and answers himself with, ‘Because they commit crimes’. Of course, many of those crimes stem from the War on Drugs that disproportionately arrested young black men for non-violent drug violations such as possession of marijuana – not to mention that crack cocaine (largely in black communities) was heavily punished, while powder cocaine (the white drug of choice) was often treated with a slap on the wrist.

    The recent investigation of the Ferguson, MO police found that a huge portion of the black population was kept in an endless, virtual debtors’ prison through fines and fees levied by the justice system, ensuring that they all had police records (while funding the persecuting police department).

    Does the arrest and charging of the officers in Floyd’s case equal justice, as Mr. Kunstler asserts? It is a long way from arrest to trial to conviction, and that the path is almost never completed when the subject is a police officer. The number of convictions of police is infinitesimal and ‘charging’ is often just a sop thrown to the demonstrators to quiet them down.

    Kunstler suggests that we blame black mayors and police chiefs – often the first of their race to hold these positions – for not being able to quickly remedy the accumulation of centuries of abuse and neglect from white politicians and society. Unbelievable!

    The destructive impulses of a criminal class (or delinquent teenagers of any race) aren’t specific to riots by black people. And to say that black leaders didn’t call for it to end is just utter BS. Mr. Kunstler must have watched the coverage on Fox News, as every interview with black leaders that I saw started with a plea to stop the destruction.

    Kunstler’s points about the unintended consequences of some previous social programs, and his comments on education and language deserve a discussion that cannot be done in a blog comment – however, several of them are simplistic or on shaky grounds.

    While constantly belittling the NYTimes (some of which I agree with), Kunstler accepts without comment the writings on race by Heather MacDonald and others of the Manhattan Institute, a think tank whose other great ideas include supply side economics, fracking and school choice, and who celebrate such luminaries as Rudy Giuliani and Henry Kissinger.

    If that’s your cup of tea, fine, but don’t pawn it off as objective science just because they cite ‘data’. Data is meaningless without interpretation. (Data shows that natural disasters and environmental calamities increase GDP, so they are good, right?) MacDonald’s data needs a lot of context and examination.

    In any case, her and Kunstler’s idea that we can simply move on to solve the economic crisis without simultaneously addressing the problems that affect the persecuted and underpaid population that actually does more than its share of the essential tasks in the economy, isn’t worthy of Kunstler’s intellect.

    Slavery, reconstruction, Jim Crow, lynching, redlining and black vote suppression all happened, and their aftershocks continue, as evidenced by the vast wealth gap between blacks and whites, and the de facto return to segregated cities. To say they no longer matter is like saying that 9/11 hasn’t affected how we deal with security and shouldn’t be considered in future strategies.

    Mr. Kunstler may never have had a threatening experience with the police, but every black man I have ever known has a story. The stories can also now be heard in TV interviews with black professionals, doctors, athletes and Congressmen. Since they didn’t end up with shootings, they are not in Ms. MacDonald’s statistics, but they sure felt like systemic and police racism to those experiencing them.

    His last column posited that the Democratic Party – always portrayed as totally feckless – somehow engineered hundreds (thousands if you include the rest of the world) of demonstrations overnight. This must be true, as inferior black people certainly aren’t capable of self-organizing, and have no real issues to complain about.
    Talk about subliminal racist thought!

    Kunstler, unfortunately has a lack of empathy – usually hidden by his intellect and mastery of language – that is exposed when he talks about race. He is good with things and abstract ideas, but not with the thoughts, emotions and motivations of people who are outside of his experience.

    Even the few non-white and female characters from his fiction (which I love, as he is a great story teller) reflect this – a discussion for another time.

    Kunstler’s brilliant analyses of energy, urbanization, the long emergency, etc., are not reflected in his insights on anything dealing with human relations – certainly not on those beyond white, American, middle-class males.

    In recent comments Kunstler said he didn’t take LSD back in the 60’s. Perhaps, he should have. It might have given him some empathy, or at least provided self-reflection on his own blind spots.

    • SW June 15, 2020 at 10:40 am #

      “Virtually none of the many publicized police incidents ending in death began in response to an actual crime in progress – certainly not a violent one.”

      The shop owner called the police when G.F. tried to pass a counterfeit $20 bill and he was afraid of him b/c he was acting bizarrely. GF was 6’6″ and both autopsies showed fentanyl and methamphetamines in his system so it sounds to me like the shopkeeper had reason to be worried.

      While I agree his past legal history has nothing to do with his death in police custody, it is blatantly dishonest to obscure his past criminal record which includes a home invasion of a pregnant black woman who was terrorized while her home was ransacked.

      • benr June 15, 2020 at 10:57 am #

        And most of all be completely full of shit.


        You are patently full of shit.

        • K-Dog June 15, 2020 at 12:26 pm #

          Someones narrative is unraveling. But we can all agree it is cathartic.

          JHK means different things to different people. I have admired Mr. Kunstler for 20 years says it. I don’t have to explain that here and we are all fine with it. No issue. The problem is in admiring JHK or anyone you will wind up putting unreasonable expectations on your choice of fixation.

          I admire this person because they AGREE with me about X so surly they AGREE with me about Y. Then when they don’t agree with you about Y you go bat-shit crazy and think you have been betrayed. Not good and it really is all in your head.

          On one level that explains the above but IMHO I see someone has drunk deeply of the BLACK LIVES MATTER cup.

          Yes black lives do matter but saying it rubs this guy the wrong way. He thinks lives matter PERIOD. No exceptions. None!

          Evil is an equal opportunity employer.

    • Nightowl June 15, 2020 at 10:45 am #

      A new paid hack arrives.

      Rule no. 1:

      Speak in generalities and platitudes. Provide no direct evidence that could be openly disproven.

      Rule no. 2:

      Take up lots of space, so no one will oversee your comment

      Rule no. 3:

      To avoid deletion. Pretend to be a fan of the blog, then slowly unroll the smear

      Collect the MMFA check and profit.

      • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 1:34 pm #


      • Siebert June 15, 2020 at 8:32 pm #

        What is an MMFA check? I don’t have an acronym definition for that.

        • Majella June 15, 2020 at 11:14 pm #

          It’s Tweet’s favoured smear – accusing the Poster of being a ‘paid’ troll under the auspices of Media Matters – anything but arguing a point. Supercilious self-preening is his forté.

          • Q. Shtik June 16, 2020 at 12:57 am #

            Supercilious self-preening is his forté. – Majella


            Maj, I could give you a whole dissertation on the word forte (e.g. that there is no doohickey above the letter e) and its pronunciation but I won’t because our host is probably looking in as he usually does on the first day of a new essay and I don’t want to piss him off and get my ass banned. Besides, nobody appointed me as school marm, right?

          • Majella June 16, 2020 at 5:43 am #

            Q – I’d appreciate the enlightenment! You’d deliver with clarity and charm.

            If Tweets were to condescend to edit me on it, it’d be brimming with snark & ad hom.

            I’ll go check it for myself (some day…). I believed my high school Latin & French plus musical instruction meant I had SOME clue, but alas that was 40+ years ago!

          • Majella June 16, 2020 at 5:46 am #

            So please forgive the ‘e-acute’.

          • Q. Shtik June 16, 2020 at 12:36 pm #

            So please forgive the ‘e-acute’. – Maj


            I didn’t know it was called an ‘e-acute’. Thanks for pointing it out.

          • Majella June 16, 2020 at 8:39 pm #

            It’s a French diacritic or accent mark.

            *^* is the circumflex, indicating a missing ‘s’ = *hôtel* v. *hostel*

            *è* is the ‘grave’, indicating an ‘awh’ sound and

            *é* is ‘acute’ indicating an ‘ay’ sound, as in *touché*.

            As ‘forte’ is pronounced *fort-ay*, I erroneously assumed the *é* was in use.

          • Kakadu Man June 18, 2020 at 3:30 pm #

            From the Internet:

            In music, the word “forte” (pronounced “FOR-teh”) comes from Italian, and means “loud.” In English literature, or in everyday parlance, the word “forte” (pronounced “FORT”) comes from French, and means “strength.”

            While this might be epistemologically correct, it does not accord with common (in fact very common) usage … and most people would never pronounce forte as fort … it sounds dumb ignorant.

            I would say FOR-tay, and spell it thus (forté) … notwithstanding what more pedantic grammarians might assert. So there.

          • Majella June 18, 2020 at 7:59 pm #

            Actually, the Fench *forte* is pronounced *for…* – a silent *t* unless it has an ending *fortement”* (strongly).

    • MC Hammerabi June 15, 2020 at 10:47 am #

      Let me summarize this long-winded response catharsis – when you agree with JHK – he’s erudite and lucid … when you disagree – he’s a racist.

      • MX Vet 57 June 17, 2020 at 4:54 pm #

        Nail, meet hammer.

    • neurodoc June 15, 2020 at 10:56 am #

      Obviously a person from the left lunatic coast.

      • benr June 15, 2020 at 11:16 am #

        NO I would suggest that person sits in some dark government building in a row of disinformation spewers.

        • Majella June 15, 2020 at 11:22 pm #

          Paranoia…! Don’t you know all those troll farms have been contracted out to private enterprise? Your Tax Dollars at Work


          • benr June 16, 2020 at 5:45 pm #

            I see ZERO difference.

          • Majella June 16, 2020 at 11:16 pm #

            That’s right…and you entirely lack a sense of humour too.

          • benr June 18, 2020 at 7:02 pm #

            Or I did not click on your link until just now.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 1:51 pm #

        What’s a coastie?


    • elysianfield June 15, 2020 at 10:56 am #

      “Virtually none of the many publicized police incidents ending in death began in response to an actual crime in progress – certainly not a violent one.”

      Yes, no actual crimes in progress, like rape and murder. Not a one. You are very observant.

      Other crimes, and called-for services, require the police to act. Bad people sometimes resist, causing the police to react. Sometimes the reaction requires force…sometimes deadly force.

      Catharsis, congratulate yourself that you live in circumstances where you can be safe…safe to pontificate things that you have been taught and read. Reality is somewhat different than you suspect.

      LSD? You holdin’?

      Just asking for a friend….

    • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2020 at 11:16 am #

      Well, in Ferguson, Mo anyway, the new mayor is black. Most of the whites — all those that possibly could — have cleared out.

      • K-Dog June 15, 2020 at 12:04 pm #

        With assholes cleared out the ones who are left will be doing fine 🙂

        • rackslope June 15, 2020 at 12:55 pm #

          With assholes in the mirror, the ones who left will be doing fine ?

          There I fixed it for ya.

          • K-Dog June 15, 2020 at 5:04 pm #


          • Siebert June 15, 2020 at 8:35 pm #

            Assholes in mirror may appear closer than they actually are. And they like it that way.

        • Jigplate June 15, 2020 at 1:10 pm #

          “With assholes cleared out the ones who are left will be doing fine” Yes, just like when all the assholes cleared out of Newark in the 1960’s. Last I heard, they were doing real fine. Let’s see how Ferguson and Minneapolis look in 5 years time, and we’ll see who the assholes are.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 1:53 pm #

          There are high and low in every race – but not in equal proportions. Those that have eyes to see (an internet connection), let them see.

    • teddyboy46 June 15, 2020 at 11:20 am #

      It is easy to see that the reason you mock and belittle JHK is because what he writes does not agree with the Narrative you have chosen to believe. You have imbibed the current Propaganda and are now intoxicated your own inflated sense of self importance.

      • Siebert June 15, 2020 at 8:37 pm #

        You mean the “I know something you don’t know” propaganda of witless sociopaths? Yeah, I know them. They hate me.

    • King of Comedy June 15, 2020 at 11:41 am #

      This is the classic “we are the world” position and it would naturally find Kunstler’s somewhat darker view of humanity problematic. At this late stage of the game, any argument that drops the default racism charge against an opponent can’t be taken too seriously. It’s the equivalent of putting fingers in your ears and humming loudly to drown out anything which might “trigger” a hurt feeling or two. For instance, the surest way for black folks to improve their quality of life almost immediately would be to stop killing each other in large numbers. It went pretty much unnoticed with all of the other mayhem underway but in Chicago over the three day period from May 29th to May 31st, 25 people were murdered and an additional 85 were wounded. I have not seen any official breakdown on the race of the offenders and victims but c’mon, we all know what it is. Those are casualty figures from a military engagement and not something that should be seen in any civilized society. To his credit, no less a personage than Jesse Jackson pointed out these inconvenient facts over 25 years ago (ironically enough, in Chicago):

      “This killing is not based upon poverty; it is based upon greed and violence and guns.”

      He followed up with a sound-byte that today would surely get you to woke East of Eden cast:

      “There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then (I) look around and see someone white and feel relieved.”


      The police are a human organization and subject to all of the flaws that humans are but if all policing became perfect tomorrow, the mayhem in the black community would continue unabated without a hard look in the mirror. The Kente cloth brigade will not broach this subject out of fear or complicity or both but the bottom line is that the colossally bad idea of defunding the police is exponentially easier than telling people the social contract demands that civilized treatment be preceded by civilized behavior.

    • fugeguy June 15, 2020 at 1:11 pm #

      A lot of bad stats out there.

      As an engineer I am extremely well versed in statistics and have vast experience in removing the noise and getting things down to unit less figures that can be compared.

      Looking at the crime stats there are 3 things that I can state with a high degree of certainty:

      1) The level of police on black violence has been declining for close to 30 years. However, that is likely due to a general decrease in violence (at least until the last couple of years).

      2) The level of police on black violence is actually lower than the level of police on white violence when adjusted for the levels of crime committed by the races.

      3) Blacks commit significantly higher levels of crime than other races. This includes violent crime (which requires a response from LEO’s). This reduces the influence of subjective decisions by the cops (somebody gets shot or an ER visit charges are filed regardless of skin color)

      # 3) is probably mostly socio-economic but there is certainly a cultural issue of how black people interact with police that also needs addressing. Main evidence is that other racial groups in similar economic circumstances do not commit crime at the nearly the same rates and see 2) before blaming the police.

      1) and 2) are just facts. Facts that undermine the main argument for the current unrest, “its not getting better so we need to do something!”

      Note that the last part of 3) eliminates the non violent crime argument. If you are crazy enough to believe that a white guy gets off for shooting someone because he’s white and that is why the stats for violent crime are lower for whites than you are hopeless.

      And all of this leaves out the obvious fact that if a black man wants to extend his life span the best thing he can do is hang out with whites and avoid other black men. Just sayin.

    • cbills June 15, 2020 at 8:09 pm #

      Well written. I agree. Not likely worth the time it took you in this crowd of grumpy, old, soon to be worm dirt. But I’ll give it to you for the college try. I won’t do it. Our country will change. It will be fine. It will likely be better and more egalitarian. And the young will invent it, just as they do in every new generation.

      • King of Comedy June 16, 2020 at 8:35 pm #

        I hope you’re right although history doesn’t particularly favor your interpretation. If COVID were much more deadly, then you’d perhaps have a similar effect to the period post Bubonic Plague in 14th century Europe. The reduced population and devastation of the labor market created a better standard of living/more societal rights for the survivors and eventually laid the groundwork for the Renaissance. I’m not wishing for Black Death casualty counts by any means but the future scenario for good old planet earth is exactly the opposite: a burgeoning population and diminishing resources. Historically speaking, that, alas, has generally coincided with the nasty, the brutish and the short.

    • Ricechex June 16, 2020 at 12:51 am #

      Oh brother. You need to get going. You are very offensive.

      • cbills June 16, 2020 at 5:12 pm #

        What offended you? That I said you are old, out-of-touch, and soon to die? Or that I was actually optimistic for the future.

    • HapMan June 16, 2020 at 9:04 am #


      Good, well-reasoned post. I’m sure you have wondered whether it was worth the time to write it. I think it was – there are a few of us (mostly silent) normies that still read this blog.

      To add my own perspective: I currently work with a small-ish startup. All of our employees are professional and/or creative types. We have a small number of black employees. We have had a few conversations as a group about the current events.

      Our black employees have all been impacted by “driving while black”-type interactions with the police. And what has come across to me is that the Floyd killing has prompted real fear and anxiety in their part.

      Many of our white employees have attended protests. These are not activist types. What I have detected is that, among many white people and companies, the knowledge that black colleagues and friends are still subject to second class citizen treatment has become a source of sympathy and embarrassment.

      The idea that the Democratic party is behind the protests is absurd and without evidence. The protesters include a large number of middle and professional class whites AND blacks, ie not the people one often finds at progressive street protests. I think what we are seeing is a pretty significant shift in mass attitudes about racial inequality, kind of like Me Too was a sea change in attitudes about harassment.

      The old, angry white guys hanging around this blog might not like it, but it is what it is.

      • Nightowl June 16, 2020 at 9:53 am #

        Tell us again about Russian Truth, Ukrainegate, and how Trump is a fascist who plans to put non-compliers in FEMA camps.

        I would be happy to pull out some prized examples from your posting history.


        • Majella June 16, 2020 at 8:42 pm #

          Go on, then.

          Threaten it or do it, as you don’t seem to have much else to do with your time than trawl through twitter for your LOLz.

        • HapMan June 17, 2020 at 9:41 am #

          NightLOL, have you ever noticed that, more often than not, nobody bothers to respond to your posts?

        • Majella June 17, 2020 at 8:31 pm #

          Then again, we could just read Bolton’s book, of course, if President Dumbfuckery would allow its publishing.

          How about YOU repost the statements you associate with Kakadu Man. I cannot recall them, and I suspect they’re quite probably figments of your fevered imagination.

          Your “LOLs” are becoming increasingly nervous. You really should try to find some other, more creative & original way to express your mirth. “LOL” is a very blunt instrument.

          • benr June 18, 2020 at 7:10 pm #

            Book is a big nothing burger.

      • fugeguy June 16, 2020 at 11:52 am #

        So there’s this:


        Plus it seemed the media was pushing the race issue for weeks-

        – the guy punching old white people in nursing homes
        – the jogger in atlanta
        – a couple others

        They kept throwing the bait out there until something stuck.

        Plus the timing seems odd given all the information being released on the activities of O’s outgoing administration. Very hard to charge or even investigate the only black president in the middle of a race war. Clapper and Brennen are already on the record as saying O told them to do it. So IMHO its a dead issue that will go nowhere.

        The driving while black thing cracks me up. I live in Chicago. Every third car is driven by a black guy. Not enough cops to harass even a small percentage of them. Just f u c k i n g fiction.

        • King of Comedy June 16, 2020 at 2:11 pm #

          Another interesting development in your neck of the woods. The Honorable Mayor Lightfoot is now begging Walmart to reopen its looted stores in Chicago and Walmart executives are naturally a little less than convinced that doing so would be the wisest business decision. Madame Mayor had some problems with the use of tear gas and the embedding of National Guard personnel with Chicago PD as the city was set upon by the “underserved” so to call this ironic is to take understatement to an entirely new level.
          Burn baby burn, indeed…

          • fugeguy June 17, 2020 at 1:35 pm #

            Yea, I can never figure out the burning and looting your local businesses thing. Really need to think about where you will get your food next week.

            It is what it is… Mayor Lightfoot has yet to use logic so why start now. Next she’ll be cussing out Walmart and then not understand why they aren’t rebuilding. Genius level stuff out of her mouth every day.

        • Majella June 17, 2020 at 8:38 pm #

          Not enough cops to harass even a small percentage of them”

          It’s not a percentage of drivers who get stopped but how any in real numbers get harassed, arrested, fined, jailed, or shot that matters.

          CPD has 12,000 officers.

          If half are on duty at any given minute, that’s 6,000 officers.

          If a tenth of them are arseholes, that’s 600 arseholes.

          Over an 8 hour shift, those arseholes could stop 4,800 drivers in at 1 per hour each.

          If 1% of those go wrong, that as many as 48 potentially nasty interactions per shift.

          Times 3 shifts per day x 365 days = 52,560. There’s a lot of potential for shitty outcomes.

          • fugeguy June 18, 2020 at 9:44 am #

            Are in the medical profession?

            It seems your grasp of math is about on par with the Covid modelers.

            Future career path for you.

            My point is and I stand by it- there are bad cops. But for the most part cops react to criminal acts. If you want fewer interactions and potential bad outcomes with the police commit fewer crimes and be less aggressive and violent when you interact with the police.

            Starting a fight with the cops, stealing their taser, trying to shoot them with the taser and then running does not mean you should die. However, creating such a cluster (dude started the whole thing) and then acting like a complete and total victim when things go bad is delusional. At least 50% responsible. Cop should be reprehended but not charged with felony murder.

      • King of Comedy June 16, 2020 at 1:47 pm #

        Everybody gets to believe what they want (although I would wager in your small-ish start-up anything that contradicts or questions the cringe-worthy “positions” of BLM is strictly verboten). I would recommend your company look into hiring some Appalachian whites so then you can compound your sympathy and embarrassment with regard to second-class citizenship over a more representative sample of actual second-class citizens.

        And fear of becoming George Floyd? You should tell that to a guy named Tony Timpa. Unlike St. George, he had the poor taste of being kneeled on for 14 minutes by the police and dying while white. That doesn’t excite the white guilt crowd nearly as much so of course nobody heard about it outside some local reporting and alas, it wasn’t the impetus for rioting and looting or the vandalizing of churches, synagogues and monuments so en vogue these days. Mr Timpa also had no history of holding loaded guns to the stomachs of pregnant women so there was little opportunity to play up that “turning his life around” angle either.

    • fugeguy June 16, 2020 at 11:55 am #

      “Kunstler suggests that we blame black mayors and police chiefs – often the first of their race to hold these positions – for not being able to quickly remedy the accumulation of centuries of abuse and neglect from white politicians and society. Unbelievable!”

      Just not true. Been in charge for multiple generations. When a white person sneaks in they are liberal. All of this is happening in areas under democrat control for decades and the republications are at fault?

      Really, truly delusional. I mean get help.

    • HelloEileen June 18, 2020 at 8:45 pm #

      Thank you.

      I’m really tired of the “if blacks could only act like whites, we’d all just be peachy”.

      JHK said ONE word that was truth. “Overshoot”.

      The fact of the matter is–that there are about 6.5billion too many humans on this planet, all fighting over the scraps that remain after nuclear accidents, air and water pollution, mega monoculture farms, factory animal slaughterhouses with their waste pits and misery—the absolute destruction of the Earth’s lungs—the Amazonian forest—

      all for profit—and it’s making living life a miserable mess for most humans and pretty much all animal life—except for those who breathe the rarified air….the Cheetohs and the the Pelosis (and yeah. i don’t think for one second there is a difference between “parties” as JHK would like to have you believe. he knows better and it’s insulting that he’s stirring up this garbage as if it’s true.).

      Politicians are actually telling the truth. You just aren’t listening to them correctly.

      Put yourself in the place of someone like….George Soros or T. Boone Pickens or and tin pot despot anywhere—and then listen to what these politicians say as if you are one of the elite.

      The words are directed at the elites. “We aren’t going to give up our way of life!”

      Exactly. They’re not talking to YOU. You’re just listening as if they are. Because it makes you feel better. It gives your life some kind of meaning that you have something to contribute.

      Live your life and knock it off with the parsing of ridiculous ideas like….who came up with an idea first. How about pay attention to the world around you and do something that might make things better.

      Starting with kicking out that crass POS that resides in the WH. Can you even IMAGINE any other president in HISTORY saying and doing the things we’ve been subjected to hearing the past 3 years?

      Can you IMAGINE Dwight Eisenhower hiding in a bunker twittering about the “SKANK” Hillary Clinton? Could you IMAGINE JFK getting into a room and talking about grabbing women by the privates? (he may have DONE these things…but he would never have BRAGGED as the president of the free world about them)

      I don’t care WHO they put in there—as long as the person can carry on a conversation without calling someone “skank”, “dope”, “nasty” or hurling flash grenades at them while cheering on police brutality.

  8. snagglepuss June 15, 2020 at 10:21 am #

    ‘Think about finding a plausible place to live where the rule of law perseveres. Think about how you might fit into an economy run at a smaller scale.’

    Holy crap. That sounds a lot like Canada. Sorry, but the border is closed, although the RCMP is apparently investigating a party of four Texans who claimed a desire to cross the border solely to return to their home in Alaska, but laughingly told a waitress they just wanted to vacation. For those of you who wouldn’t tell such fibs but long for a bit of Canada here is a great Canadian – Jordan Peterson.
    He’ll tell you the way out of the current mess you are in.


    • akmofo June 15, 2020 at 10:52 am #

      No thanks, Snaggles! The only thing Canada has going for itself is that their harsh winter climate prevents people from venturing outside. But the same problem of hostile foreign populations exist there. How long before the blacks at Jane and Finch start burning down Toronto, joined by the Pakis the Palis the Somalis and the rest of dar-al-islam. Trust me, it will not take much of an economic downturn to ignite that powder keg.

      • benr June 15, 2020 at 11:00 am #

        As America goes CANADA FOLLOWS.

        You really think Canada has such a high standard of living just from being Canada?

        Little sister you ride the coat tails of your southern neighbor in ALL things.

        If not for the US you would be speaking either German, Russian or Chinese which would in some parts would actually be a vast improvement over French.

      • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 12:03 pm #

        who are Palis?

        • rackslope June 15, 2020 at 12:58 pm #

          So you got Pakis but not Palis?

          • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 1:35 pm #

            Any old coot can get ‘paki’–been hearing that from canuks since the 1980s.

        • akmofo June 15, 2020 at 1:04 pm #

          Them are Saudis and Sudanese with Jordanian passports mythologized on Vatican CIA propaganda outlets as the new Jews to be settled in Israel instead of the old Jews they mistakenly murdered in the millions, being that the old Jews are really fake Khazar Jews. Or something of the sort. Hard to keep up with your the Vatican propaganda.

          • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 1:35 pm #


      • scoubidou123 June 15, 2020 at 5:23 pm #

        Up to maybe around 2016, canadian elites were still pretty much of the smug ‘Canada is a moral superpower’ mindset. But since then intersectional dogma has prevailed, and Trudeau now gleeful-mournfully admits that Canada is a genocidal country that practices neo-colonialism and systemic racism.

        • akmofo June 15, 2020 at 7:23 pm #

          Must be because of he noticed the cultural appropriation of Moroccan leather jackets colourful Chechen socks and painted Blackfaces at his latest girl school party.

  9. John1945 June 15, 2020 at 10:26 am #

    I wonder if it is acceptable in our progressive times to quote Bible.

    Idle hands are the Devil’s workshop; idle lips are his mouthpiece.
    Proverbs 16:27-29

    Also regarding that $1200 & extra $600 per week “stimulus” which stimulates no one:

    “I wonder why they call this place penitentiary.I never saw anyone penitent in there”
    James Riddle Hoffa about Lewisburg Federal Penitentiary

    • Q. Shtik June 15, 2020 at 5:42 pm #

      Idle hands are the Devil’s workshop – John1945


      Last night as I came down the steps from the second floor to our living room I spotted my wife in our comfy lounge chair. She was watching a show on TV and simultaneously working on a cross-stitch of a large colorful butterfly which will, when completed, become the cover for a throw pillow. I said “Idle hands are the Devil’s workshop.”

      Now, John, here you have quoted the same words. I believe this phenomenon is known as synchronicity.

      • John1945 June 15, 2020 at 11:02 pm #

        =cross-stitch of a large colorful butterfly=

        “….the indispensable accessory will be a glasses case decorated with homemade needlepoint (an important caste mark: the needlepoint suggests hours of aimless leisure during which someone has worked on it—unthinkable for proles). If a woman does a lot of knitting for family and friends, chances are she’s upper-class.”

        From:Fussel, Paul – Class, Style and Status in the USA


        Mr Q. Shtik !!!
        We are all revolutionaries now.I hope your elitist upper-class wife will see the error of her ways.

        • Q. Shtik June 16, 2020 at 1:13 am #

          I hope your elitist upper-class wife will see the error of her ways. – John1945


          My wife’s father was a laborer who made it all the way through 8th grade. Your description of her as ‘elitist upper-class’ could not be further from the truth. She is simply an amazing person, skilled in many ways.

          • John1945 June 16, 2020 at 11:14 am #

            A am sorry,Mr Q. Shtick

            It was intended as a joke.I put a couple emoticons at the end of my humorous admonition but after traveling across the cyberspace they were transformed into question marks and all the irony was lost.

            I guess you are old enough to remember newspaper photos of Cultural Revolution in China in the late 60’s.College professors wearing dunce caps,kneeling before screaming juvenile Red Guards.Thats what we see now here.Only Red Guards were more civilized and knew when to stop.They did not deface monuments,statues and other sacred places.

            By the way,your other comments make me feel young again.My Drill Instructor never let a soldier pass by without straightening him out.And his highest praise was “Maybe you are not as bad as the rest of them…But I am not so sure…Now get lost !”

            So straighten ’em out !!!
            And I am no exception !!!


          • scoubidou123 June 16, 2020 at 3:13 pm #


            The Cultural Revolution was an abomination that should leave anyone speechless.

            Not only did they denounce (and humiliate and torture and kill) professors, but they torched temples and monasteries, burned books and paintings, smashed art objects, tore bits from the Great Wall and vandalized the 2,400-year-old cemetery of the Kong Clan, where Confucius himself was buried.


            I would recommend The Cultural Revolution: A People’s History, 1962?1976 by Frank Dikötter for a description of the savagery unleashed.

            Another Cultural Revolution is taking place. The Red Guards are among us.

          • John1945 June 16, 2020 at 7:17 pm #


            One thing is to scream at a Math Prof who gave you an “F” in Calculus III and another thing is to vandalize a cemetery where your ancestors were buried for 2400 years…

            Well,my opinion of the Chinese as a highly civilized people who keep to themselves,mind their own business and are incapable of excesses needs to be updated.

  10. oilie June 15, 2020 at 10:27 am #

    I hate to be disagreeable, but while the era of cheap oil has been attenuated, the age of oil could continue for a good while. We have had oil above $100 per barrel in inflation adjusted dollars with only a minor recession to show for it. Shale oil is a resource play. There is still plenty of it. At $70 per barrel successors to the presently bankrupt shale companies would be plentiful and clamoring for a piece of the action. Oilies are more unjustifiably optimistic than farmers. They think that the bankers will forget their recent losses, but never mind. brother Powell can likely conjure up the restart money.

    The question is not oil, but whether or not this nation will survive its dystopian present long enough to establish a livable new normal. It probably depends on who is hidin’ behind Hidin’ Joe Biden.

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    • benr June 15, 2020 at 11:03 am #

      We all know the fix is in for cankles aka she who shan’t be named.

      • abbybwood June 15, 2020 at 2:51 pm #

        It won’t be Cankles.

        Susan Rice will be the next president (if Trump manages to lose) and I see her being sworn in within days after the Inauguration of Sleepy Joe.

        It is all a giant Deep State Ruse and the MSM are all in on it.

        Which is why everyone at MSDNC and CNN never question Biden’s mental competence. I guess they think we have nowhere else to go for “news”?

    • K-Dog June 15, 2020 at 12:02 pm #

      I hate to be disagreeable

      If that were true you would have thought things through more. Finding out what the hell you are talking about would also be a good idea.

      If a high tech unplanned economy can’t make shale profitable now a tailspin economy which no longer operates with reliable delivery and price is not going to do it.

      Looking for your big lie:

      We have had oil above $100 per barrel in inflation adjusted dollars with only a minor recession to show for it

      There it is.

      I think a Nigerian prince needs you to write letters for him so he can smuggle his money into America.

    • rainmaker June 15, 2020 at 12:10 pm #

      Surplus energy is what has provided the goodies that we have been enjoying for decades, like cruise vacations, eating out multiple times a week, and the Welfare State. We no longer have that surplus energy. We cannot even keep the infrastructure that was built long ago in serviceable condition. There may be plenty of oil left, but there is no longer enough to keep industrial civilization and a growing population supplied at cheap enough prices.

  11. EnterpriseSpaceship June 15, 2020 at 10:40 am #

    When there is an abundance of fossil fuels excess energy, humans love insects, wild hogs, bears, coyotes, all other animals and each other – very much.

    When that abundance disappears, we either eat those animals, kill those animals or kill each other…

    It is all about excess energy, mind you…


    • abbybwood June 15, 2020 at 2:55 pm #

      I will never kill a spider.

      • Q. Shtik June 15, 2020 at 5:53 pm #

        Because it might have been somebody’s grandmother in a previous life?

  12. NickelthroweR June 15, 2020 at 10:49 am #

    Kunstler is correct in that we will first have to vote with our feet.

    I left SoCal at the end of February this year and purchased a house in Ohio along the Ohio river sight unseen. That’s right, never even been to this little town.

    I purchased this house because it is near a coal fired power plant and this region has enough coal and natural gas to run the entire country for the next 250 years. I purchased this house because it sits on the edge of a forest. I also wished to be near a navigable waterway. The zip code that I am in is over 95% white so the people both look like me and do not have any one minority group to hate. I am also just South of several large Amish communities.

    I did all of this because I looked at my situation in my $3200 a month one room apartment at the beach and realized that my situation was entirely unworkable going forward and I was correct. I am so thankful that I didn’t get locked down in that tiny apartment.

    SoCal has but two industries – entertainment and tourism and the democrats wishing to remove Trump from office have destroyed both industries. Most of the people I knew worked in entertainment and enjoyed the fact that all the fancy bars, restaurants and tourist attractions (like our well manicured boardwalk) were just outside their door and made the financial burden worth it. Well, now they have nothing – zero.

    They screech and wail about BLM and metoo but will only do so as long as the $1k a week from a bankrupt government allows them continue virtue signaling. Once that ends, the hunger games will become real.

    • neurodoc June 15, 2020 at 10:54 am #

      Smart boy; your family will thank you soon.

      • NickelthroweR June 15, 2020 at 11:36 am #

        It is just me and my girl – a lifelong California resident and she thanks me each and every day. She had a difficult time finding work in SoCal and had to resort to Uber and Lyft because she doesn’t speak Spanish and it isn’t possible to get a job (her background is criminal justice) unless you are bi-lingual. It took her less than a week to find employment here.

        I am happy to be here because the young people in SoCal very much believed that violence was justified when used against business owners because we were all guilty of “theft” because we just didn’t hand over all of our wealth to the mob. I was also done with the tired arguments about gender and which hole to pee in to. I just didn’t have the strength to argue with intellectual infants anymore.

        Finally, I know that Ohio sets the tone for the national election and Ohio is the bellwether and as Ohio goes, so goes the nation. That said, in my travels around the state I see Trump flags, banners, bumper stickers, car wraps, painted sides of barns, placards, etc. One would never even know that Biden is running for president by the looks of things – the complete opposite of California.

        • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 1:41 pm #

          The NEW service economy–riding a bike for Door Dash or whatever. [what happened to cooking at home?].

          Lyft uber.

          taking care of electric scooters thrown on the streets [scooters not allowed in Bev Hills].

          and other such temp work.

          I would see ads for ‘become a acupuncturist or hypnotherapist or massage girl–not mentioning that it is self employment.

          a whole new service economy.

          • Nightowl June 16, 2020 at 9:56 am #

            Live in a pod, work for Lyft, eat bugs, and be “independent.” Drink Pepsi.

            Also — own nothing, die penniless and childless, and live your life as a slave on the Open Society’s global plantation.

        • fugeguy June 17, 2020 at 1:45 pm #

          small town rural life is way better than city life.

          boring for the young but boring will soon be the trendy thing.

      • SW June 15, 2020 at 11:48 am #

        A long-time friends of my sister and her husband are leaving California within two weeks and relocating to a small town in north Texas where they live. The property is cheaper, people sleep with their windows open in the cooler weather and its only about 1n hour and a half away from D/FW. It’s a better life in smaller towns and you are smart to get out of California.

        • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 1:42 pm #

          you tube

          west texas is dry as a bone in the sahara


          • SW June 15, 2020 at 2:27 pm #

            West Texas has always been a hellhole and when the Ogolala aquifer runs dry, they’re outa business. North Texas gets quite a bit of rain but is in tornado alley. No place is going to be perfect or paradise but with the cities and suburbs imploding, a small town — even one in Texas — looks like a better deal to me than California.

          • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 10:55 pm #

            I like that guys place. He is planting those African trees. The ones that are so wonderful. Moringa, thats it.

    • King of Comedy June 15, 2020 at 12:13 pm #

      Sadly, you’re spot on. Socal is the testing ground for the notion that a society can survive without a common culture and results are not promising. Even the relatively similar European cultures of the Ellis Island immigrants didn’t smoothly transition to the melting pot a century ago so for the ever-more-disparate cultures in the mix now the prospects are even dimmer. The reality is that there are decent people of every race, ethnicity and stripe but ultimately human nature cannot be overcome. Everybody on the planet exhibits at minimum the relatively benign “racism” of loving their culture just ever so slightly more than all others (the possible exceptions to that are the diseased white woke but imo, that’s more the result of awful parenting than any shift in human nature). Hard times just accentuate what has always been there under the surface and unfortunately the Great Accentuation appears to be underway.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 2:02 pm #

        From another pov: the Woke White aren’t part of Western Culture anymore but they do love their own twisted, dysfunctional culture so they don’t disprove the rule. The ritual bowing to Blacks will get old very quickly and they will flee from them to White areas, and they try to drag those Whtie areas down.

        • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2020 at 7:04 am #

          It’s not just bowing. We have Police Chiefs and local politicians who are actually crawling on their bellies. It’s a remarkable specacle.

          • Nightowl June 16, 2020 at 9:58 am #

            It is amazing how organized they are. It has surprised even me, and I already know a fair bit about how far this movement has burrowed into free societies.

          • Majella June 16, 2020 at 8:45 pm #

            …and I already know a fair bit about how far this movement has burrowed into free societies.”

            Tweets, the All-Seeing Eye?

    • rainmaker June 15, 2020 at 12:18 pm #

      You must read Ecosophia too, Nickelthrower! Flyover country is starting to look very attractive to the sophisticated urbanites now, according to Zillow.

      • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 1:44 pm #

        Only because it has less ‘thugs’ shall we politely note.

    • Rupert June 15, 2020 at 1:46 pm #

      The location you described sounds a lot like home to me. We bought out here a few years ago.

      Brown or Adams friend?

    • abbybwood June 15, 2020 at 3:04 pm #

      I am in SoCal too and am ready to buy a house. Can you tell us the city or county you are in?

      My son is in Ohio now looking at houses in Huron county, where I was born.


      • abbybwood June 15, 2020 at 3:09 pm #

        Above comment to Nickel*

      • NickelthroweR June 15, 2020 at 11:23 pm #

        Steubenville. You can buy a palace here for what a tiny apartment in SoCal costs. Internet speeds here are 3x what they were in Ventura, California.

      • fugeguy June 17, 2020 at 1:50 pm #

        That is my back yard. I am currently in Chicago but still have my retreat in Erie county on the Huron county border.

        Small world.

        Wonderful place but a lot of heroine. Watch your kids.

    • Coalclinker June 15, 2020 at 6:23 pm #

      You’re close to my neck of the woods, except I live on the Kentucky side. If you’re live within sight of the Ohio and live near a coal-fired power plant with a local Amish population, then you’re probably between Aberdeen.and Ripley. Then again, there’s two powerplants between Gallipolis and Pomeroy.

      • NickelthroweR June 15, 2020 at 11:30 pm #


        No, further North than that. Steubenville. I’m on the very edge of town. I bought a huge 3500sqft brick house for 1/4th of what I paid for my tiny apartment in SoCal. I grew up in Ohio and I very much relate to the people that live here. The biggest political issue here is the new landfill and my biggest concern is making sure that my rather large lawn is as nice a my neighbors.

        I have not been here long and I only had enough room in the truck I brought with me for my tools but I can tell you that I bought lawn care machinery before buying a chair to sit in.

        Little pink house for you and me.

        • Majella June 16, 2020 at 5:50 am #

          When are you going to turn that wasteful monoculture lawn into crop gardening?

          • NickelthroweR June 16, 2020 at 1:24 pm #

            It certainly isn’t mono-culture. I have at least a dozen different species of trees. The previous owner must have had some kind of dream of owning his own botanical garden because that is what my yard looks like. There is such a diversity of trees, ferns and flowers that I’m a bit overwhelmed.

            The woodpeckers, robins, blue jays, cardinals, rabbits, raccoons, squirrels and chipmunks really seem to enjoy my yard. Frankly, I should leave things as they are until I get a better feel for the place before I just rip everything up and put in a potato garden. As cheap as land is here, I could always grab an acre or two and put a garden/retreat there.

          • Majella June 16, 2020 at 11:22 pm #

            …but I can tell you that I bought lawn care machinery before buying a chair to sit in.”

            Pardon my confusion!

            It sounds ideal & idyllic – a wild garden is much more satisfying & overall environmentally sound than a fecking ‘lawn’!.

        • Coalclinker June 16, 2020 at 6:48 pm #

          Good for you. You’re living in a place where the trials and tribulations of our troubled times will largely pass you by.

    • cbills June 16, 2020 at 5:15 pm #

      I agree with you that I wouldn’t want to be in SoCal right now. But as a Michigander, I question your choice. Ohio is more of a bubble than a bell weather at this point as they they become older and more homogenous.

  13. neurodoc June 15, 2020 at 10:52 am #

    Before we arrive at the world described in the initial “World Made by Hand,’ there is likely a civil war with divisions along racial and political lines. My prediction is that it will result in a final balkanization of the US followed by a breakup into separate countries, likely, to some extent, along blue/red lines but with purple mixed in. Best advice from a doctor who has treated thousands of war casualties: learn to shoot well, learn to be ‘gray,’ stay away from riotous areas and events, and learn to farm and to obtain and sterilize water. SHTF is coming, and we haven’t seen anything yet.

    • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2020 at 11:20 am #

      Succint and to the point.

      Excellent advice well put.

    • Billy Hill June 15, 2020 at 11:22 am #

      While it is difficult to imagine suburban professionals killing one another over symbols, if SHTF truly arrives a’la July 21, 1861 we will all look around and wonder why we ignored the warnings.

      I’ve heard that once the killing starts and dead bodies become commonplace it gets easier. The empathic impulse that partly defines “human” recedes. Is this a genetic defect? Or a theological disorder?

      • JohnAZ June 15, 2020 at 11:37 am #

        It is war. War, when murder becomes legal

    • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 1:45 pm #

      According to Buchanan, the Government of Mexico has been using
      its peons, I mean people, as a weapon to destabilize USA.

      ‘They’ had a bill to rename New Mexico, Mexico.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 2:03 pm #

      Gray? As in not standing out?

      • elysianfield June 15, 2020 at 10:34 pm #


      • stelmosfire June 16, 2020 at 7:08 am #

        Vlad, I have a farmer friend named Gray, He is outstanding in his field.

  14. ricksinger June 15, 2020 at 11:17 am #

    Bravo, Jim.

    “Put your energy into imagining how you can be helpful to other people, and perhaps incidentally earn their trust and their assistance in mutually beneficial ways.”

    This is the most uplifting and least cynical advice you’ve shared in a long time. Please keep it up. We need solutions, not more exposes of the problem your readers are aware of.

  15. CancelMyCard June 15, 2020 at 11:25 am #

    “Think about finding a plausible place to live where the rule of law perseveres.”

    — JHK

    Jim, would you please give us a few examples of locations that fit this description? Seriously.

    If such areas of the US currently exist, they have fallen off my radar, and I would love to be enlightened.

    Thank you.

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    • K-Dog June 15, 2020 at 11:32 am #

      He can’t tell you. It is against the rules.

      • CancelMyCard June 15, 2020 at 1:32 pm #

        And what rules are those exactly, and where are they posted??

    • JohnAZ June 15, 2020 at 11:38 am #

      Read TLE, he has a chapter dedicated to that end.

      • K-Dog June 15, 2020 at 12:46 pm #

        Being close to a large population center is not good. You need to be at least fifty miles away. Which means we are all in this together. Like it or not. Stay out of the way if you can; but chance will roll the dice.

        • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 1:23 pm #

          I can walk 50 miles. A tank of gas can get someone starving 200 miles. 50 miles is a joke.

          • CancelMyCard June 15, 2020 at 1:37 pm #

            So, you’re living 200 miles away from the nearest city hospital. You suffer a major physical problem/accident.
            Now what?

          • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 2:28 pm #

            White Doctors. A new idea….

          • K-Dog June 15, 2020 at 5:02 pm #

            50 miles will take you more than a day.

            200 miles away from the nearest city hospital. You suffer a major physical problem/accident.

            And you explode the myth of the bunker, sort of. Community in a semi rural area of people who will not be overwhelmed by those following the interstate is best.

            There is not a lot of agricultural land that fits the bill. Nobody ever told you but this is the end of the line. Divided we are toast.

            Pass the butter.

          • CancelMyCard June 15, 2020 at 6:44 pm #

            “There is not a lot of agricultural land that fits the bill.”

            All the good Ag land has already been taken.

            But, you know that already, right?

    • rackslope June 15, 2020 at 1:15 pm #

      Strategic Relocation
      North American Guide to Safe Places – Third Edition

      -Joel Skousen


      • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 1:46 pm #

        converse ‘Worlds Most dangerous Places.’ book.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 9:51 pm #

        White states and cities always have the lowest crime rates.

        • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 10:56 pm #

          or Japanese.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 2:08 pm #

      A Black professor wrote about them, calling them “Whitopias”. See the book of the same name. Coeur d’Alene, the scene of the recent AR15 street party, is one such.

      Needless to say the good Professor wants to integrate (destroy) these places. And the White bozos have had no exposure and therefore have no immunity. Unlike Whites who have lived around Blacks.

    • Amman June 15, 2020 at 2:39 pm #

      surely ye jest!?

  16. K-Dog June 15, 2020 at 11:29 am #

    So the Democratic party turns out to be composed of Sumerian Alien Lizards crossed with human stock before the Black Sea flood destroyed all evidence. And we already knew the Republicans were so affected.

    It was their plan when the mother ship left. They knew their DNA initially weak would concentrate itself by selective breeding over generations and when it was concentrated enough mankind would destroy itself leaving only the purity of lizards.

    Leaving me as the only choice for a human future. K-Dog for president. Mans’ best and now only friend and now mans last chance.

    Take measures to protect your own future, as far as possible. Put your energy into imagining how you can be helpful to other people, and perhaps incidentally earn their trust and their assistance in mutually beneficial ways.

    Good advice but a hell of a lot easier said than done.

    • JohnAZ June 15, 2020 at 11:40 am #

      Talking to a group of 20 somethings to decide their future is one thing.

      Talking to a group over 70 gives a very different reaction.

      • K-Dog June 15, 2020 at 11:51 am #

        Considering that people in the end will vote for the most repeated message that money can buy, does it matter?

        • CancelMyCard June 15, 2020 at 6:47 pm #

          Goebbels knew it.

          Bernays knew it.

          Now, we all know it.

          • K-Dog June 16, 2020 at 2:52 am #

            The thing is, you can know about it and it still works. Not as well but it does. And I’ll take issue with you. You know it, I know it but all of us knowing it is not the way it is. Fox viewers don’t know it and they are not alone. America has one foot in science and another in superstition and is more subject to propaganda than it has ever been. Reason is not popular this year in America. Propaganda rules our day. 2020 will be known as the year of thinking badly.

          • Nightowl June 16, 2020 at 3:24 am #

            K-Dog commenting on propaganda and thinking badly in one post.

            A brief review of his posting history shows us that he has claimed that Trump is both Hitler and a Russian asset.

            We have a genius here.


  17. 4014HAMPHEDGE June 15, 2020 at 11:30 am #

    ANTIFAS gets no mention in today’s lines which is somewhat an oversight, as modern incarnation of Leninism. Lenin’s efforts promulgating Communism/Bolshevism beyond Russian boundaries after the 1917 Revolution brought about the most natural birth of Italian Fascism as counterweight.

    While 1921 -1922 saw Mussolini getting to work, Hitler was finishing up MEIN KAMPF, blueprinting elimination of Jews. Hitler’s book in turn excited Mohammedanism (another feature at work today not mentioned by this blog), fostering creation of the premier Muslim political organ of Islam: “The Muslim Brotherhood”.. Punitive action by the League Of Nations against Germany most naturally became spawning ground for a despot, promoting Hitler to undisputed power.

    America, more by Divine intentions to assure ascent of the Jewish State than particular wisdom of the secular interests at work at beginning of the atomic age, came out on top in 1945. Russians and Chinese made less than enthusiastic alliance, while the oilpatch Muslims were soon betrayed on their deal with Roosevelt; Baptist Truman greased the skids for Israel in 1948, capitalizing on Vishinsky’s absence from the critical U.N. vote to permit Israel’s Statehood.

    Enough politics, for now we need to mention demise of American railroads as motor mania took hold, beginning with Truman’s denial ofg steel needed for the rail rebuild slated postwar. Rubber tire visions fueled by Arab oil was the New Order. The Suez Crisis, set off by upstart Israel reacting against canal blockade prompted Ike to action. Ike saw US prosperity assured in 1956 when he coupled American military presence in the Middle East with his landmark “Defense Highway Bill”, a massive sea change in US Transport policy benefiting trucking at expense of rail mode.

    The free market was put on hold as trucking prospered from punitive inventory taxes forcing local warehousing and onsite retail stocking to cease, in favor of “Just-In-Time supply chains bringing herds of daily truck deliveries and aviation into food distribution. As noted by Gail Tverberg et al, we are entering a tenuous period regarding food distribution.

    As the freeways came to maturity in the 1960’s, American branch rail lines into food production districts were systematically demolished, even with sustainable traffic levels of general freight, as stockholders sought efficiencies of the main lines, forget about the branches. With current disruptions natural and manmade facing America, we may be too late to consider needful preparations for Famine Hedge. Lack of railways into food production districts is a gaping hole in food distribution, and when we see trucking impacted by coming events, rebuilding missing rail links will be most difficult.

    Consider wealthy families and circumspect corporations adopting crucial breadbasket rail corridors for rebuild in the Famine Hedge scenario? See William Forstchen “ONE SECOND AFTER” for primer on cannibalism?…One or the other, boys & Girls.

    • lbs June 15, 2020 at 11:55 am #

      Modern food production requires massive amounts of fossil fuels. Without fossil fuels, our country could not produce much food. So long as there are fossil fuels, it matters little whether food is transported on rail or truck. If we have lost some transportation efficiency by wiping out rail sidings, it’s way down the list of issues of importance.

      And I’m skeptical even about how extensive the loss of breadbasket rail corridors is. Here in the PNW there is large scale shipping of grain both by rail and barge.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 2:19 pm #

      The Nazis were denied access to the Press and Radio so they had to take their message to the street – where they were attacked by Communist goons. After 13 years, 23,000 casualties (on their side), and over 300 dead – they triumphed. At last Hitler could throw out the Bankers and those feasting off a dying Germany as per the Treaty of Versailles. And using the economic policies of Gustav Feder, he performed what is known as the Economic Miracle of Nazi Germany – the real reason they had to attack him before other peoples demanded the same or similar things.

      But you still think the good guys won, right?

      • CancelMyCard June 15, 2020 at 6:51 pm #

        But you are very happy that Hitler gassed the Jews, no?

        You would have loved to join them in the Auschwitz showers, no?

        Yes, Janus, you must wash that stink from your body,
        it smells like fish
        which every woman hates.

        Please step this way into the showers!

    • MiddlePeninsula June 15, 2020 at 6:57 pm #

      Cannibalism? Go check out KunstlerCast 303 – Jack Alpert on Unwinding the Human Predicament. I am still not right after listening to Mr. Alpert’s view on the future.

  18. teddyboy46 June 15, 2020 at 11:31 am #

    I will leave you with this . Civilizations are built on law and order and crumble under chaos.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 2:23 pm #

      Order will be restored – with the Revolutionary Guards are the Police. But their role will be far more comprehensive than that!

      As the Dwarf, Ori, wrote in the Mines of Moria in a frenzied hand, the Orcs are coming. We cannot get out..

  19. JohnAZ June 15, 2020 at 11:34 am #

    Since the beginning of human history, conflict between human groups are between haves and have-nots. If you have something and I do not, I want a piece of your pie.


    Governments have eternally tried to remove the difference between Haves and Have-nots. As long as they can afford the redistribution of wealth, the government keeps the throngs under control. When the redistribution becomes untenable, chaos erupts.

    We are there!

  20. Opie June 15, 2020 at 11:35 am #

    The lunatic leftists have done us a favor. The easy thing to do was keep your head down,work hard and vote like that ever changed anything. With the revolution coming to your town,you now must either submit and bend over, or you can chose a side/arm and vote with lead.

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    • JohnAZ June 15, 2020 at 11:42 am #

      And make a choice, no sitting on fences.

    • K-Dog June 15, 2020 at 11:44 am #

      Whatever is coming to your town don’t call it a revolution. It does not deserve that name. Revolutions have causes to die for. This is a situation where no ideology has risen as a response to the crisis and we are going to go down before it can. A few scattered prophets without a following do not a movement make.

      Nobody has done you a favor. You are about to dine on a shit sandwich because you blamed it all on ‘them’ and ‘they’ were never in your mirror looking back at you and now accounts come due.

      • Opie June 15, 2020 at 12:02 pm #

        It’s their term,not mine. I’m just done with talking, when,and only when the system completely breaks, I will not be debating anyone. Down where I come from there’s a saying “son,you better git it or a shotgun will”

      • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 2:26 pm #

        You people have started a battle you can’t win. You have sewn the wind and will reap the whirlwind. You can click your gucci sandals together all you want – Glinda isn’t coming to save you this time.

    • lbs June 15, 2020 at 11:49 am #

      I am skeptical that armed rebellion against leftist totalitarianism will succeed. The radical wacko left controls the media and most all the rest of the corporate establishment. They control the educational system, primary/secondary and higher education. Virtually all politicians bow to them; any nostagia for freedom or civil liberties is overshadowed by a fear of being “cancelled”.

      The left controls The Machine, and they have no ethical reservations about using it to crush any resistance.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 12:17 am #

        There are plans to “defund” them – as in breaking the machine. Who are the guys who work with power? Water? Who works on the refineries? And on the pipelines? Who drives the trcuks? Who grows the food? Who transports it? The Cities can be besieged and turned off. Imagine the resulting hellscapes.

        It’s been war gamed: Red wins – if most of the army goes red.

  21. lbs June 15, 2020 at 11:44 am #

    I think Kunstler is perhaps the most brilliant social critic in the country, but I don’t agree with the resource shortage explanation for what’s going on in the country.

    Fossil fuels WILL run out, and when they do, it will bring on horrors like the world has never seen.

    But right now we still have them. They are abundant and cheap.

    I would argue that the problems in our country right now may perhaps be due to the reverse. We have material abundance in our country. It breeds a culture of indolence.

    It’s like an oil rich country like Venezuela deciding that nobody has to work for a living because all you have to do is pump oil out of the ground and sell it for big bucks.

    Or Calfornia, which decides because it has gorgeous scenery and the nation’s best climate, it can just lure in rich people and tax the crap out of them, and the populace can live off that without having to work for a living.

    I think right now the nation’s problems largely revolve around the “spoiled rich kid” syndrome.

    • K-Dog June 15, 2020 at 12:38 pm #

      Fossil fuels WILL run out, and when they do, it will bring on horrors like the world has never seen.

      So which camp are you in. The fast or slow collapse camp?

      And one more question. Are you using the time left to educate yourself about Venezuela? You are out to lunch about it.

      • CancelMyCard June 15, 2020 at 6:59 pm #

        It matters not which camp you are in.

        The real question is . . .

        do you have an off-grid, sustainable, ag-based land and workforce,

        with sufficient water, power, and community.

        Are you there yet?

        • K-Dog June 16, 2020 at 2:43 am #

          A workforce? This is something new. I know people doing solar. I know people doing gardening but without money how will you employ a workforce? Whats in it for them or do you intend to make your workforce an offer they can’t refuse. How do you prep for a post-apocalyptic workforce? Practice by herding cats?

          The fact that you won’t even be able to pay minimum wage has ominous implications. And what makes you think you will have a workforce and not be part of one?

          • Majella June 16, 2020 at 5:55 am #

            Food & keep wages, as in WMBH, such as Bullock’s demesne.

          • CancelMyCard June 16, 2020 at 11:29 am #

            Ding Ding Ding!, we have a winner!

            Majella gets the Tuesday Gold Star!

        • Nightowl June 16, 2020 at 10:07 am #

          A fantasy for fantasists.

          Even if they had access to a plot of land, most people would struggle with learning to homestead. And their food would be stolen anyways.

          This option is realistic for about 2% of the population, I would guess.

          Here in Germany everyone in my hood now has solar panels and a well, but if the shit hits the fan, this will not matter. And they know it. They simply have thrift engrained in their heads.

          The US prepper trend is one step removed from hipsterdom. In reality if shit really goes down, you are going to have to move or die.

  22. Karah June 15, 2020 at 11:45 am #

    Where is the ORDER in our current moment?

    It seems to me most people are primarily concerned about maintaining their social status and their full bellies. As long as someone or something can fulfill those two needs…everything is fine. Social media and all the histrionics that comes with it has helped them with their perceived HIGH moral status. It’s okay to lose ones job to covid but NOT due to racism. And everyone not in support of BLM or MeToo is a default diehard racist male chauvinist out to GET YOU. DoorDash is successful at making sure restaurants can appear to stay solvent. Dining out is built on slave labor. Do you realize how much it costs that guy/gall to deliver something within a 10 mile radius of Taco Bell? So, if you want to abolish slavery then DO NOT support the restaurant industry.

    We have had two power outages in the dead of night when most people are sleeping. I assume it was intentional and part of the computer server maintenance of the grid. My smart phone notified me of the black out and told me to text if my power had not come back on. Think about how to live without electricity for a long period of time in the dead of summer? Life without electricity was possible for thousands of years and civilization thrived leading to the U.S. revolution being powered by…oil lamps. One if by sea, two if by land.

    And you knew you were free by the ringing of a huge BELL that could be heard for a mile? Could that be why the telecommunications industry has the symbol of an analog BELL. Who is going to ring the bell to tell us it’s time to work, time to eat, time to sleep, time to revolt? The stock market still uses an opening and closing BELL. Pavlov used a bell on his dog for what purpose? To create a specific response. Do not ring that bell unless you got something for me….or else!

  23. robert magill June 15, 2020 at 11:54 am #

    When the Generals gather in DC in November and study the HumptyDumpty remains of our establishment, they may be thinking of omelet or… bonfire

  24. RB June 15, 2020 at 12:00 pm #

    It isn’t the cops on the street it is the whole damn judicial system which is as corrupt as any 3d world tribunal. Who are we kidding? How many people are imprisoned after being driven nuts until they confess or plea bargain to something lesser. Justice my ass. Too many cops couldn’t pass an honest psychological exam. They’d be revealed for the thugs they mostly are. And we give guns to morons who have no emotional control over themselves. There is a lot of irony that so many women and minorities are the chiefs of police around the urban landscape. As with their mayors, they exert no controls over their departments or cities. They are lost. You want governance and enforcement, go find the Frank Rizzos. But don’t expect fairness or restraint. The more you turn over to the minorities the nastier it will get. Seattle? Chicago? Baltimore? Atlanta?

    Oh, and for the evangelical bunch out there who subscribe to the “if you bless Israel, you’ll be blessed”. How’s that working out for the good old land of the free? Misinterpretation anyone? If this is blessing, you should dread the future wrath that is promised.

    Even Mr. K, as excellent as he is with words, cannot express how bad things are and how much worse is coming. The classy class is getting hammered for once. The muscians, the artists, the broadway bunch, the kumbaya crowd. Northern AZ Univ in Flagstaff canned over a 100 faculty by not renewing contracts. Emails. Oh, and your medical insurance is only good for another week. Liberals who think they can escape the carnage are utterly stupid.

    • messianicdruid June 15, 2020 at 5:54 pm #

      “Oh, and for the evangelical bunch out there who subscribe to the “if you bless Israel, you’ll be blessed”. How’s that working out for the good old land of the free? Misinterpretation anyone?”

      It is a simple fix, a little word study and review of history. Much confusion has been propagated by ignoring the division of the kingdom into two nations in the time of Rehoboam. Applying prophecies indiscriminately to both groups or to the wrong group is a disservice to all.



    • elysianfield June 15, 2020 at 10:45 pm #

      ” Too many cops couldn’t pass an honest psychological exam. They’d be revealed for the thugs they mostly are. ”

      Interesting observation. I remember when hiring on the OPD, that a psychological examination, off-site, was administered by a private practice psychologist. I got hired, so does this mean I am not a thug? Along with the whole Oakland Police Department in the late ’60’s? We were not considered darlings of the Left, thugs or otherwise. What happened? Were we clever enough to “fake it”?

      Might it be the case that the job turns young apple cheeked idealists into thugs? What issues are they immersed in daily? What truth do they recognize that may be, to you, obscure?

  25. bob June 15, 2020 at 12:04 pm #

    The root of suffering is attachment and desire. Our desire for the “good life” is attached to non reality. When you take the denial of reality path, things come undone in exponential ways. Soon we’ll be chatting about the punishing heat and drought.

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  26. Helen Highwater June 15, 2020 at 12:43 pm #

    I think the author is wrong when he says “Everybody will have a harder time making a living. Everybody will endure shocking losses in wealth, status, and comfort.” The billionaires are going to do just fine, in fact they are making money hand over fist even during a pandemic. And the government is helping them to do it. Why won’t the government tell the taxpayers which corporations got the $500 billion in bail-out money? Because they don’t think it’s any of the peoples’ business. That is not democracy by any stretch of the imagination.

    • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2020 at 1:16 pm #

      At some point the money won’t be worth much. In 2016 Zimbabwe printed $trillion notes; Zimbabwe was a nation of trillionaires.


      • Karah June 15, 2020 at 1:18 pm #

        You think the same thing will happen with Bitcoin?

        Are we going to have Bitcoinaires and they can’t buy anything?

        • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2020 at 1:38 pm #

          Funny you should ask me that Karah.

          My kid is a bitcoin millionaire, or so he claims, living large for the past 3 or 4 years, acting like its going to last forever.

          • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 1:49 pm #

            all will be numbered to-etc.

            buzz is Gates has a patent on a bio chip that will be an internal bank.

            See you tube for swedes who are doing similar internal bank.

  27. James Kuehl June 15, 2020 at 12:43 pm #

    Many of Kunstler’s posts of late have been provocative and disturbing. No bad thing, this. Like looking at Diane Arbus’s photos, the effect is jarring and breaks up clots in the thought process.

  28. malthuss June 15, 2020 at 1:25 pm #

    I left SoCal [where were you?] at the end of February this year and purchased a house in Ohio along the Ohio river sight unseen.

    Like Tripp Ticket, but he moved to a black area and didnt fit in. He even had to fight off pitbulls.

  29. patrickd June 15, 2020 at 1:54 pm #

    Great summations of energy and current affairs.

    It seems to me that mendaciousness is common to both parties, but I don’t really follow what these jokers say. They’re all fake. Politics is fake. Democracy? Fake. America is a beacon of hope to the world? Give me a break. America is a terrorist on the world stage.

    Black Lives Matter? Not to black people. They kill each other at an alarming rate. They routinely disobey every command by a policeman, and routinely become uncontrollably violent when faced with arrest. To me, this is not police violence, this is a black death wish. Its amazing to me that it seems everyone in the country watches a video of a black man becoming violent when being arrested, and they don’t see that. What they see is the policeman becoming violent. WTF??? What is wrong with Americans??? It’s on film!

    Truly, there have been police murders of black people. The college cop shooting a black man sitting in his car. The cop who shot a black man running away in a park, then planting a taser next to the body. The cop shooting a black man walking down the street, refusing orders to stop (he emptied his clip into him, I believe). These are murders. George Floyd probably was murdered, although I think an inverstigation ought to be made, and police procedure needs to be reviewed. Due process?

    But the vast majority of police killings of black people, as shown on videos available to the public, were orchestrated by black resistance to lawful police behavior. I believe BLM is a huge misdirection, and a movement to change the subject from black insanity and crime, to a scapegoat or police criminality. I’m not saying there isn’t discrimination, racism, and police abuse, because all those exist. It’s just that from what I have personally viewed on film, the BLM narrative doesn’t fit the majority of those films.

    Anybody who resists arrest is going to be overwhelmed by police bodies and attempts to subdue, so that cuffs can be applied. I’ve seen these videos, and black people do not stop resisting being cuffed, ever. This is why so many of them die during this process. How can anyone breathe when half a dozen cops are trying to immobilize your body so that cuffs can be applied? If you have medical issues, are on drugs, death is very possible. Resisting this process is insane. Actual insanity.

    BLM is fake. If black lives matter, black people wouldn’t kill themselves by resisting arrest, pointing guns (fake or real) at police, etc. They wouldn’t kill other black people so often, or at all.
    Aiming fake or real weapons at police is known to elicit immediately shots to center mass, multiple shots to incapacitate. Screaming police violence after these types of deaths is bullshit. These deaths are suicide by cop, not police violence.

    I wonder if BLM is a cover so that black people can steal shit and act out in the process.

    I wouldn’t want to be black in the US. Yes, rednecks and racists are alive and well in the US. I would probably be doing mayhem if I were black. But that would be my problem, not anyone else’s.

    • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2020 at 2:40 pm #

      So you are saying the weekly bloodbath in cities like Baltimore and Chicago IS NOT the fault of the Police Dept?

      Patrcickd, badthink like that will get you in trouble with the authorities. Be careful.


      • patrickd June 15, 2020 at 2:57 pm #

        Right. The bloodbath is black people insisting that their own lawlessness, especially resisting arrest, is actually police criminal behavior. The bloodbath is criminal behavior, not by police, but by BLM and others. It’s against the law.

        Did you know it’s against the law to destroy property, to loot, to shoot the police? Hello?

        If I get in trouble for thinking this, that’s okay with me. I don’t think the police will mind that someone supports them. They won’t arrest me for it. It’s sad that you apparently think they will.

        • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2020 at 3:38 pm #

          Ah Patrick, just my lame attempt at irony.

          • patrickd June 15, 2020 at 4:35 pm #


      • elysianfield June 16, 2020 at 10:58 am #

        Forgive Patrick’s comments…he’s had too much to think….

    • patrickd June 15, 2020 at 2:51 pm #

      Being productive and useful to others is probably the best strategy for homeless people to become not-homeless. Unfortunately, in my experience (ten years homeless), most homeless people want the handouts, the free meals, free everything, and money to buy drugs and booze. It’s why I won’t give money to a homeless person. When I see BLM people, I see the same strategy of NOT wanting to useful to others, but rather taking from others, even stealing and destroying. BLM is destined for the trash heap. Taking, stealing, destroying, hating, is a dead end. Eventually everyone will isolate this destructive movement. Contribute, produce, be a help if you want to be accepted by others.

      In my opinion, blacks don’t really want to be anything positive, or to be a part of the US. At least not from what I’ve seen.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 2:54 pm #

      Pat goes on at length about how horrible Blacks are and then blames it all on White evil. If he was Black, he’d be doing it too. But he’d deserve to get shot cuz it would be his fault. Well the Blacks don’t take that last step. Nothing is their fault, ever.

      Obviously Whites need to keep control over this Race of Children. You don’t bow down to children having a temper tantrum either.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 2:56 pm #

        Then in his second post, he agrees with my response to his first post.

        • patrickd June 15, 2020 at 3:00 pm #

          Janos, I’ve never agreed with anything you have EVER said.

          • elysianfield June 16, 2020 at 11:00 am #

            “Janos, I’ve never agreed with anything you have EVER said.”

            That was a bit of overreach…of course you have.

      • patrickd June 15, 2020 at 2:59 pm #

        I did not blame anything on White evil. Blacks are responsible for their behavior, not anyone else.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 4:14 pm #

          Their crime rate is many times ours. If it’s their fault, that’s tantamount to saying they are a violent race by nature. I agree with you then, even if you can’t agree with me.

          a=b and b=a. A not liking that changes nothing.

  30. canuckster10 June 15, 2020 at 2:23 pm #

    Long time reader. I appreciate reading JHK, especially here in Canada where you are labelled if you deviate from the approved script.

    I have always travelled to the USA for summer vacation. Last year I went to Yellowstone. No trip this year. Was in Minneapolis 2 years ago. Rode the LRT downtown to see a Twins game.

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    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 4:15 pm #

      If Yellowstone blows, all of our problems are solved by becoming moot. Three feet of ash will cover most of the United States followed by several years of “nuclear winter”.

      • DurangoKid June 15, 2020 at 4:22 pm #

        Don’t hold your breath. Yellowstone won’t erupt anytime soon.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 4:45 pm #

          What if we drop a nuke into it? At the end of the R Crumb comic, the White girl exclaims, “Not that. Not that. Surely not That!”. The White Man responds, “Yes, that” – and pulls the switch.

  31. Amman June 15, 2020 at 2:40 pm #

    Well, I don’t know but from overseas, it does not look like CNN works for America.

    • canuckster10 June 15, 2020 at 3:00 pm #

      Much like our CBC, CTV, and Global news outlets here in Canada.

      • akmofo June 15, 2020 at 4:08 pm #

        I’ve been saying this for years. It doesn’t matter where you live, 99.9% of the MSM propaganda outlets are a hostile foreign occupation masquerading as locals.

    • Shiva Dance June 15, 2020 at 3:00 pm #

      They work for BlueUrbanistan, which is a culturally occupying force inhabiting a collection of tiny bubbles of urban wealth and privilege, surrounded by a sea of Red, who think they speak for the entire society. Apparently even the Blue Mobs disagree, judging by their treatment of CNN reporters and headquarters.

  32. zenfugue June 15, 2020 at 3:53 pm #

    The redoubtable JHK’s insightful and irreverent CFN! Where else do you get that and a belly-laugh as well?

    “he’s able to express it only in messages that sound like a 1961 Frigidaire commercial, with overtones of Marvel Comics superhero grandiosity”

    Thanks for another great Monday morning kick-off, Jim.

  33. Jigplate June 15, 2020 at 3:55 pm #

    “They stuffed Joe Biden in a basement twelve weeks ago and have no intention of setting him loose on the landscape where he would reveal his unfitness with every breath he takes and every move he makes. The news media especially, in its bad faith role, pretends not to notice, but its minions are too self-important to realize that there are other ways for citizens to learn what is happening out there.” The plans are already made. The DNC has already collaborated with the MSM to create the script. If Biden is elected, sometime in the first year of his term, the MSM will begin talking in hushed, somber tones about how sad it is that Joe seems to be faltering. When Rachel Maddow sheds a single tear, that will be the signal for Joe to resign, and his heroic, “woman of color” to reluctantly take the reigns. They all know that he has one foot in the respite care center.

  34. newworld June 15, 2020 at 3:56 pm #

    Just to let everyone who is fixated upon the disfunction of blacks, we have passed Peak Black in this country socially, culturally and most important politically. The future blacks have in this country is bleak and black as those stupid squares posted on social media.

    The New Democrats are not out there for blacks, they have let the white and black goons take to the street all the while the Asians of various sorts have at best egged on blacks to act even dumber.

    Obviously even the D-party is over the hump or the usual gaggle of demagogs would be out there pontificating about Reparations. Do you think the D-party survives by offering the largest pot of loot to just one group? Not even the largest colored group in the country these days.

    And once we as a society get over the magic spell of the word “racist” blacks will have an utterly miserable life. Any Asian, Hispanic, White, Muslim, Hindu gonna show love for black people? They are doomed.

  35. Soul Forensics June 15, 2020 at 3:57 pm #

    New businesses to boost the economy:

    CHAZ PR department heads

    CHAZ funeral directors

    CHAZ gangsta-rap anthem writers

    Insta-brick clearing houses

    Chrome Aunt Teefa pendants in a locket, with note signed by Overlord Raz

    One-week streetcorner re-education diplomas

    Retail franchises for bongs the size of Stacey Abrams

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    • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2020 at 5:35 pm #


      They’re calling the Zone CHOP now, not CHAZ.

      It seems that there is internal strife inside Utopia, already.

      • Soul Forensics June 15, 2020 at 5:42 pm #

        Yes. “Chop! Chop!”

        But how to construct a guillotine with ripped-off store window planks, baling wire, and stolen steak knives.

      • tucsonspur June 15, 2020 at 6:43 pm #

        And if not a wall, we have barriers in the CHOP zone. But we still can’t close off the border. The wall of Trump’s base might be easily climbed this November, as BLM and such ‘burn’ white skin to black.

  36. newworld June 15, 2020 at 4:04 pm #

    Joe Biden is not even fit enough to stand trial. Of course the GOP is the Stupid Party and conservatives are its clowns so here we are. Instead of blaming Biden’s handlers of that old sad sack and blaming them for any and everything under the sun till they crack under the strain of proposed responsibility in which they cannot handle we will get Hannity informing us continually of stumbles and slurring.

    Same Old Stuff, different day, same results.

  37. BackRowHeckler June 15, 2020 at 4:59 pm #

    Let’s see here

    From Heyjackass Chicago

    June 1 — June 14

    Shot & killed: 28

    Shot & wounded 199

    Total shot: 227

    Total killed: 31

    Victims 75% black, 18% Hispanic, 3% white, 4% unknown.

    This appears to be a slow week in Chicago. But the 4th of July is a bonanza holiday and those numbers will most certainly go up. At any rate the lid is off and the smell of blood is in the air.

    BRH – these numbers rival that of a low level war, say Philippines 1899-1902, or the Moro War 1905-1913. At some point, in Chicago, one would think anybody who could be shot has been shot, but doesn’t seem to be the case. New candidates step up every single day, week after week, month after month, year after year.


  38. Q. Shtik June 15, 2020 at 5:06 pm #


    Please look at the picture and read the text in this link. This should put to rest the bogus assertions that Trump held the Bible upside down in the infamous photo-op incident. I hope you are man enough to concede that you have been wrong on this ‘making-a-mountain-out-of-a-mole-hill’ issue.


    • K-Dog June 15, 2020 at 6:35 pm #

      Man enough? I’m a dog.

      That is not the same picture and I think Satan photo-shopped it.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 9:11 pm #

        Oh dog dude, were you lyin’ about that?

  39. holdfastspike June 15, 2020 at 5:37 pm #

    Perhaps all of the police who are unappreciated and demoralized, who have take an oath to the constitution, and are leaving their jobs en-mass should come join with your brothers and sisters who have done likewise to The Oath Keepers. currently a 3% BLM discount! and can always use the extra weight and range. shall we head down to the river? come to the fricassee and set things a-right.

  40. tucsonspur June 15, 2020 at 6:12 pm #

    ”It’s much more likely that George W. Bush and Barack Obama will vote for the same candidate in 2020 than it is that George W. Bush and Donald Trump will vote for the same candidate.” Payback time.

    ‘I don’t take responsibility at all.’ Those words of Donald Trump at a press conference on March 13 2020 are likely to be history’s epitaph on his presidency.’

    That was on the Covid virus and is taken out of context.

    TRUMPOCALYPSE: Agree or disagree. Ring or ride, you decide.


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  41. Pucker June 15, 2020 at 6:56 pm #

    The propensity to create myths and mass delusions is interesting in an Anthropological sense.

    “ The latest is the Black Live Movement. They are not protesting the daily flood of Black and White blood shed by the mind-blowingly high rates of crime by African-Americans, fueled by the collapse of our inner cities since the 1960s. Much of their family structure has burned away. Their broken schools are among the results (for an example, see this video, the transcript, and more evidence here). Scores of studies (examples) show that there is little or no racial component to police violence. Also, African Americans are employed as police proportionate to their population (national data, by city) – and that the Democrats are screaming racism about police brutality largely in cities they have run for years or generations. Meanwhile, the police are both violent and corrupt, the criminal justice system is an evil joke, and our prisons are often nightmarish. Fixing these things does nothing for any faction of our elites. But getting us marching like drones in the streets yelling about racism burns off energy that might power reforms.”


    • Pucker June 15, 2020 at 7:35 pm #

      “ Could the “killing” of Michael have been a nativistic story that a few men had promulgated to increase their status and power in a rapidly changing world?”

      Carl Hoffman
      Savage Harvest: A Tale of Cannibals, Colonialism, and Michael Rockefeller’s Tragic Quest

      • tucsonspur June 15, 2020 at 8:40 pm #

        ‘The French were similarly confident, and then one day suddenly and out of the blue there was the Terror, and the scaffold for the monarchy. Is something like that possible here?’

        Although some might foolishly think that we have a monarchy in Trump et al, it isn’t so. And Melania would not say, ‘Let them eat cake’. Anyway, Trump would probably grab the last slice.

        Still too much bread around, but who knows what kind of leaders might emerge on the Left to create a ‘starvation’ myth.

        • benr June 16, 2020 at 10:44 am #

          Starvation part doubtful and we are to armed up as a nation.
          It will be a slow heat to boil so we frogs and blood bags don’t really feel the burn or the squeeze.

  42. MiddlePeninsula June 15, 2020 at 7:12 pm #

    Last week, my son-in-law borrowed my pistol. He has a Glock on order. You can’t find a pistol to buy anywhere here. My daughter told me that he asked her not to say anything to his kin in Minnesota. He said his family would not understand about the gun. I certainly agree since I have cousins in Minnesota and they are total asswipes.

    • Shiva Dance June 15, 2020 at 8:02 pm #

      What’s the story with Minnesotans? Why are they so liberal? I’m guessing it’s a similar story to my home town Seattle: a Scandivanian founding population, who, though descended from Vikings, have turned into a rather laughable gang of ethnomasochistic cucks in recent centuries. There seems to be something in their DNA that makes them pathologically altruistic and totally lacking in the warrior gene. I blame their flavors of Protestantism, which finally extinguished the last sparks of their pagan vitality and pride. These are the kind of folks who think inviting masses of Muslim Somalis into their lands is the Christian thing to do. No chance that their degenerate culture survives the coming dark age.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 9:10 pm #

        They are the Eloi. See the picture and the older version of the movie. An Irish village got together to speak about being turned into a dumping ground for 3rd Worlders. Was it a real meeting though? Or just optics? Could their no really mean anything?


      • malthuss June 15, 2020 at 10:53 pm #

        descended from Vikings, or the slaves of the Norse?

    • stelmosfire June 15, 2020 at 10:05 pm #

      MiddleP, make sure that the SIL knows what he’s got there. Learn it.

    • benr June 16, 2020 at 9:22 am #

      Be careful with revealing that data as here in California that would be a felony.
      I would suggest checking your state laws and telling him to just get a shotgun like Joe Biden suggested.

      Double barrel or Remington 870 magnum express.

      Then there is this little number


  43. Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2020 at 10:04 pm #

    NY Post

    City health officials suggest New Yorkers kiss boring bedroom behavior goodbye — but not each other — in an updated guide on how to practice extra-safe sex during the coronavirus pandemic.

    But before getting frisky, everyone should slip on a different type of protection — a face mask.

    “During COVID-19 wearing a face covering that covers your nose and mouth is a good way to add a layer of protection during sex,” according to the agency, which this week announced free home delivery of condoms, lube and HIV self-test kits. “Maybe it’s your thing, maybe it’s not.”

    And while the agency does not outright recommend casual sex, for those who live a more adventurous lifestyle the advisory says, “Make it a little kinky. Be creative with sexual positions and physical barriers, like walls, that allow sexual contact while preventing close face to face contact.”

    JS: Reminds me a safe sex pamphlet I once perused: AIDS didn’t have to mean an end to oral sex. Enter dental dams…..

    Better a dam than a damn I guess. Especially if you’re into rubber I imagine.

  44. Helios June 15, 2020 at 10:16 pm #

    Blast from the past. Probably the most influential song of the last century.


  45. Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 12:11 am #


    Amazing Tucker Carlson episode. NY City just defunded their plain clothes division of six hundred men. BLM told them to do it. That’s it. No arguments, lawyers, or laws. Just force and the threat of force. Everyone is terrified of being destroyed by being called a racist. What an amazing display of weakness both moral and physical. And BLM is surging in the polls. Nothing succeeds like success. And as Bin Ladin said, If you see a strong horse and weak horse, you will like the strong one better. Democrats? Taken over. Republicans? Totally cowed. Trump? Impotent at least so far.

    He brought up a hero of the past. The Black Panthers were demanding free college for all Blacks. And advising students to bring weapons to class to kill the Slaver owners – Whites. The University President quit in terror. Any action would have been racist. A weird little Japanese guy with thick glasses, named S.I Hayakawa took over. He went right out into a demonstration, climbed onto the sound truck and ripped the wires out. Next day the University opened. In the end, he became a US Senator for California. Moral Force – almost completely absent in the US since everyone is a greedy fraud and thus a coward as well.

    He like to wear a Tam O Shanter hat. No one knows why. Probably because he wanted to. He was weird but apparently, impeccable. I’ve never heard a word about him except his name. Probably because of his greatness and who owns the media. They hate people like this because it shows them up by way of contrast.

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    • tucsonspur June 16, 2020 at 1:07 am #

      No need for me to post it now, thanks. He may not survive much longer the way things are going.

      “We need a brave leader to stand up to the mob.”

      “Our leaders are now completely irrelevant.”

      Last, but not least:

      “The mob’s success shows using force works best.”

      We need the cleansing white heat of violence.

      • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2020 at 7:22 am #

        And the pasty white Libs in the streets with fists in the air demanding the PD be disbanded … will in the future be cowering in their apartments behind triple lock doors, occassionally fearfully peering out their windows at rubble strewn streets, now in the purview of the Cash Money Bloods, the P Street Crips, and the Mexican Mafia. When libs car got stolen last week she dialed 911, but the operator, who spoke english with a heavy, unidentifiable foreign dialect, lectured the lib to “Check your white privilege”.


    • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2020 at 5:28 am #

      That disbanded unit you mention apparently is the most effective violent crime suppression weapon in the NYPD arsenal. Its elimination will make the city more dangerous and disorderly than it already is.

      In fact all this anti law enforcement rhetoric and action we have been witnessing the past 3 weeks will make cities across the US more dangerous and disorderly. Expect more violent crime, more boarded up storefronts, more abandoned businesses, an eroded tax base, and rapid depopulation as anybody who can get out will get out to escape the escalating chaos and mayhem.

      That finally will be the upshot of BLM and Antifa agitation.


  46. Kakadu Man June 16, 2020 at 12:46 am #

    The Democratic Party might not be lily-white, and there might have been some shenanigans involved in the 2016-2019 period, but really … to what effect?

    And if you don’t like the Democratic Party, what is your alternative? The Republican Party (and its backers) are promoters of all of these:

    • gutting Social Security
    • gutting Medicare and Medicaid
    • gutting the Affordable Care Act
    • gutting the Voting Rights Act
    • voter suppression on an industrial scale
    • gerrymandering on an industrial scale
    • allowing PACs to run amok
    • stacking the Supreme Court with stooges
    • stacking the various Federal Courts with ideologues
    • kowtowing to the Federalist Society on judicial appointments
    • sacking Inspectors General if they speak out
    • attacking Roe v Wade (how many Republican women really support this?)
    • attacking family planning on an industrial scale
    • attacking LGBTQ rights in all sorts of ways
    • attacking worker rights and conditions of employment
    • winding back industrial relations reforms
    • winding back environment protection reforms
    • giving huge tax breaks to billionaires to major corporations
    • giving huge handouts to corporations rather than small business

    Why would any working class or middle class person support any of this stuff? Trump hasn’t “drained the swamp” – he’s done the reverse … he’s filled every position with someone on the inside, who is totally conflicted. Foxes are running the chicken coop on every level.

    Any MAGA hat-wearing working-class white out there would be nuts to support any of this stuff.

    • Q. Shtik June 16, 2020 at 1:36 am #

      Hey Kakadump,

      Did you read my reply to your comment in which you claimed the NYT is not an anti-Trump liberal rag? This was a couple of days ago on the prior thread.

      • Kakadu Man June 16, 2020 at 2:18 am #

        Do the fruit-loops on here get a minor thrill from distorting people’s screen-names? They must … even though it’s terribly childish, it happens rather a lot. If you call me by my published name, I might consider answering your question. Fair enough?

        • stelmosfire June 16, 2020 at 7:59 am #

          OK, Cockatoo.

          • stelmosfire June 16, 2020 at 8:01 am #

            Hey Cockatoo, does your head come to a point when you think hard? Like maybe when you are trying to work with numbers?

          • stelmosfire June 16, 2020 at 8:10 am #

            Why do you mention Fruit-Loops. I thought you were a Cockatoo not a Toucan Sam.

          • stelmosfire June 16, 2020 at 8:12 am #

            Although it does rhyme. Cockatoo Man= Toucan Sam

        • benr June 16, 2020 at 9:19 am #

          Well your screen name at least the second one now is ridiculous and conjures up dirty diapers which I guess is fitting because most of your posts really are diatribes full of the same brown stinky material.

          Why not log in with Cargill?
          Just ask our host to restore your ability to log in by now he has to be aware you have slunk back in and he gives everyone many chances even some who really don’t deserve it.

        • Q. Shtik June 16, 2020 at 12:05 pm #

          Do the fruit-loops on here get a minor thrill from distorting people’s screen-names? – Kaka


          Funny you should mention it. I believe it is the first time I have ever distorted someone’s name in this fashion. I just couldn’t resist. It was such a perfect set up… Kaka and dump. Get it?

          At any rate, forget about the NYT question. I can imagine your answer. To the true ‘lefty’ (and you are one) nothing can ever be far enough left or it seems horribly right-wing.

    • SoftStarLight June 16, 2020 at 2:44 am #

      How about no more forced and false dichotomy? The two are and have always been One. They arrest both fringes with empty promises and outright lies and dominate the middle with mealy mouth pandering and false pretense. Both are toxic poisons with a single agenda and it is far from anything that would ever benefit a “MAGA hat-wearing working-class white”. You’ll get with the program or the program will get you Kakadu.

      • Kakadu Man June 16, 2020 at 3:06 am #

        So who ya gonna vote for comrade? Or do you sit it out?

        • SoftStarLight June 16, 2020 at 3:29 am #

          Voting has been canceled and is nullified. There is a new forum for this decision making process.

      • Kakadu Man June 16, 2020 at 4:12 am #

        Would you actually like to have a decent and pleasant conversation that no working class or middle class person should ever consider voting for the Republican Party? That is a discussion worth having, I think.

        • benr June 16, 2020 at 9:15 am #

          Take out the word Republican and put in either and you might actually have a worth while discussion.
          As your post stands now its more of a circle jerk.

        • SoftStarLight June 16, 2020 at 9:43 am #

          Sure I am happy to have that conversation with you. But I do think a more holistic conversation would also include how worthless the Democrat Party is too at least from the perspective of a working class or middle class person.

          • Kakadu Man June 16, 2020 at 7:01 pm #

            Yes … I can warm to that point of view; a genuinely progressive, pro-working people party would be a good idea. However it would be ruthlessly attacked and white-anted if it ever began to even remotely challenge the wealth and privilege of the top 10%.

    • Nightowl June 16, 2020 at 3:36 am #

      Aside from being in line with accepted professional style guides, the list will look more impressive and fact-like if you cap the first word in the bulleted items. Repetition should also be avoided.

      Overall, these faults give the entire post a very flaccid quality and most readers will likely scroll past it.

      David will not be happy with this.

      • Kakadu Man June 16, 2020 at 3:41 am #

        LOL … all sounds like the desperate resort of someone who can’t face the facts of Republican Party evil … and pretty transparently too. Nice try – bu no cigar. Bill Clinton’s or otherwise!

        • Nightowl June 16, 2020 at 9:20 am #

          I am just here to laugh at you, bro.

          • benr June 16, 2020 at 10:41 am #

            Yea that gets old though I mean the man has some serious mental issues.
            It takes some serious mental masturbation to give the party of absolute corruption a pass while smearing Republicans.

          • Nightowl June 16, 2020 at 11:18 am #

            I agree, but his entire motive for being here is to subvert and squelch critical thought.

            So I can’t resist indulging.

    • Cavepainter June 16, 2020 at 8:37 am #

      My, my, such a long list. How did we end up with such a long list of agencies requiring armies of bereauecrat heads, staffs, enforcment officers, legislative decrees and funding proposals. Maybe some basic understanding about the founding principles in the Constitution and Bill of Rights has slipped from public grasp. Could it be that consensus norms of behavior (culture) have been replaced by governmental diktat? Oh, I forgot, parental responsibility in raising children, family solidity, the social contract, diciplined public education, “civics” cariculum in public education have sucummed to “do your own thing”.

      • Cavepainter June 16, 2020 at 8:53 am #

        That is, citizenship (as in national sovereignty).

      • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 1:03 pm #

        Modern Capitalism fails at distributing the wealth of the System, thus the rise of these programs. It’s either that or people dying out on the street. I wish it wasn’t true, but then again, I wish I could fly and walk on water. It is what it is.

        • akmofo June 16, 2020 at 3:12 pm #

          Vatican cronyism in Congress is not capitalism. Political credit distorts the economy to actually becoming communist. Communist for the credit connected, and feudalist for those not.

  47. axisboldaslove June 16, 2020 at 2:49 am #

    A mostly excellent essay, Jim. Seems to me you’re pretty much right on.

    But I do take issue with a few things. One, I’m disappointment that you place so much emphasis on the Democrats as being the BAD GUYS. Sure, they are part of the problem. You bet! But worse than Republicans? From my perspective (and others’), all are Bozos on the bus (unless you’re lucky enough, smart enough, clever enough, and stubborn enough to get off the damn bus). So I would appeal to you to put the cluster back in clusterfuck.

    Secondly, I think it’s untrue to basically cast all of the protester organizers as being Democrats bent on being violent, destructive, murderous, etc. Really? Come on, man. Not a fair assessment in my opinion (yeah, I know, opinions and… we all have one of those too, haha!) There are some bright young people out there trying to make a difference for the better. Just like yours’ and my generation 50 years ago, some were successful, many failed. Kudos to those who make a positive difference. Can you give at least a little bit of love for the good people doing good work? They are out there.

    But, hey, I love that last paragraph. High five, Jim!

  48. SoftStarLight June 16, 2020 at 3:26 am #

    The defund effort still needs no push. Soon there will be no more police in the big urban blues. Truckers don’t want to make deliveries in jurisdictions that have no police. Do you blame em? Cascading and unintended consequences I suppose. And so many more to come. You do reap what you sow. And there isn’t any magic that can change that.

    • tucsonspur June 16, 2020 at 4:06 am #

      We need some ‘truckers’ to bop in on the blacktop and put a hard stop to all this CHOP slop. They must mop up the ‘no cop’ agitprop, and drop, bash, the CHOP big top.

      Let’s bust their CHOPS!

      • SoftStarLight June 16, 2020 at 9:49 am #

        Yes and while we bust a rhyme too! I am gonna love seeing the CHOP big top pop!

      • elysianfield June 16, 2020 at 11:12 am #

        That’s a big ten-four good buddy. I’ll tell the boys to kick the dead hookers out of the sleeper and hit the big slab. Be in Frisco in 36 hours.

        • CancelMyCard June 16, 2020 at 8:36 pm #



          the feces.

          Sounds like the name of the Next Great Band in history.

        • tucsonspur June 16, 2020 at 9:33 pm #

          Ten-four good buddy, you ho haulers can move ‘like a rocket sled on rails.” Better check the reefer, 4-10?

    • AKlein June 16, 2020 at 6:20 am #

      SSL, regarding the police, perhaps there is another way of look at what’s happening. With so many out of work and so much of the economy limping along or outright demolished, tax revenues will be sure to drop dramatically. Will there be sufficient funds to even employ the police at the current level? In a parallel way, look what’s happened in the healthcare business. Although seemly counter-intuitive, many healthcare workers are being laid off! There is insufficient revenue to pay them. I often wonder if this “let’s defund the police gambit” is just a great cover story for the truth, which is that the money just won’t be there. And that will apply to many other areas of the economy, both private and public.

      • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2020 at 6:27 am #

        Well, maybe some of these redundant colleges and universities and their worthless academic disciplines can be defunded too.

        I mean, how many more poor suckers do we need with Intersectional Gender/Race study Bachelors Degrees (that cost $240,000)?


        • Q. Shtik June 16, 2020 at 12:49 pm #

          I mean, how many more poor suckers do we need with Intersectional Gender/Race study Bachelors Degrees – BRH


          Hey, just a gull dern minute there BackRow……. my daughter has a degree in “Women’s Studies” from Rutgers. Seriously.

          • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2020 at 1:22 pm #

            Not to disparage anyone’s hard work, Q.

            You mentioned she’s done pretty well with her degree.

            I knew a naval weapons officer who had a degree in philosophy from Brooklyn College. Sometimes you need a Bachelors degree — in anything — to get you foot in the door.


          • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 3:50 pm #

            BRH and Q in a bar when the TV mentions Green Bay:

            BRH: The only things that comes out of Green Bay are Packers and ugly whores.

            Q: My wife is from Green Bay.

            BRH: What position does she play?

          • Q. Shtik June 16, 2020 at 5:28 pm #

            BRH: What position does she play? – Janos


            Ha ha, cute.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 1:06 pm #

          No, that’s training for the new Priesthood. Many other things will go first.

        • malthuss June 16, 2020 at 8:28 pm #

          MIT is offering an online degree for 180K.

          • CancelMyCard June 16, 2020 at 8:38 pm #

            In Fractal Basketweaving?

          • elysianfield June 16, 2020 at 8:54 pm #

            MIT is offering an online degree for 180K.”

            Shee-it, I’ll offer you one for an order of chicken wings and a rack of PBR….

          • Nightowl June 17, 2020 at 3:46 am #

            No surprise there. Anything that was once considered a staple of middle-class life will continue to be placed several rungs higher on the proverbial socio-economic ladder.

            Education, home ownership, quality food, etc. The global technocratic plantation can only have so many overseers.

      • SoftStarLight June 16, 2020 at 9:59 am #

        That’s a good point. Prepare the public for the future of no money – no government. It doesn’t seem to be an organic movement. There is so much evidence it has actually been well planned and executed from the beginning.

      • elysianfield June 16, 2020 at 11:18 am #

        “Although seemly counter-intuitive, many healthcare workers are being laid off! ”

        Yes, and even middle management gets the ax. I remember an apocryphal story about a human resources guy fired do to a simple comment he made to two co-workers…one Jack and Jill.
        He decided he had to terminate Jill, and told her that she was toast…said it was a tough decision, but “I will have to either lay you or Jack off….”

        He was gone the next day. Oh Mother!

        • Q. Shtik June 16, 2020 at 1:58 pm #

          “I will have to either lay you or Jack off….” – elysian


          hahaha ha ha ……. ha ha. My kind of humor.

  49. Pucker June 16, 2020 at 8:24 am #

    This phenomenon of tearing down all historical statues is interesting from an Anthropological perspective? Primitive peoples will fabricate all kinds of myths and delusions to explain their predicament. Here, we may be facing a Mass Freak Out arising out of the failure of the Civil Rights Movement to materially improve the lives of most black people and women who have regressed economically and the collapse of the working class due to globalization and technology? It’ll get especially Freakie Deakie when AI robots replace humans?


    • SoftStarLight June 16, 2020 at 10:11 am #

      The toking Spazz sitting on Thomas Jefferson’s lap says it all.

    • K-Dog June 16, 2020 at 11:03 am #

      Confederate statues have been an insult to the black American since the bronze for them was cast. It is time for the civil rights movement to finish its work.

      If it has to do with the Stars and Bars, destroy it!

      • SoftStarLight June 16, 2020 at 5:15 pm #

        As if. You think that everyone is going to adopt your rational and well defined morality? Now that the mob knows for sure they and will do whatever they want they are removing an Abe Lincoln statue in Boston. Are we good with that? Shouldn’t we just remove all symbols so there is never a possibility that anyone is offended. I mean I know we only care if some people are offended but hey.

  50. sleek111 June 16, 2020 at 10:02 am #

    “Never in US history has there been a faction as dishonest as today’s Democratic Party or as habituated to the application of bad faith in political conflict. Their addiction to malicious hoaxes and engineered untruths knows no limits — and naturally so, since they are motivated primarily by the dream of dissolving all boundaries in policy, law, sexual relations, and personal conduct. They’ve been busy proving the past few weeks that they’re against the social contract as a basic proposition, exhorting for an end to law enforcement while inciting street violence, crimes against property, and murder.”

    Jim…truth be told, we’re COMPLETELY fucked. It isn’t just the Democrat party that’s totally corrupt. It’s BOTH parties. Once the Supreme Court decided that a CORPORATION has the SAME rights as an INDIVIDUAL (citizens united), the doors were flung ALL the way open to LEGALIZED BRIBERY (PACS, etc). Not that the bribery didn’t go on before…my god it did…but…the last restraints were removed…so that now we no longer live in anything resembling a “democratic republic”.

    Jim, truth be told, and I know you care about the truth, we live, and have lived, and will continue to live (unless of course we die or are murdered) in a KLEPTOCRATIC PARASITIC PLUTOCRACY. And Jim, the PLUTOCRACY is absolutely as ruthless as Hitler or Stalin or Mao or any of the other butchers who were USED to implement the FLATTENING of ALL resistance by, for what lacks as a better descriptor , the MIDDLE CLASS.

    And Jim, please don’t feed me the bullshit that this all randomly happened. Because it didn’t. Not the least of which is to point out that when the great Richard Nixon went to china with David Rockerfeller’s poodle bitch, the illustrious “Dr.” Henry Kissinger, it was PRE-determined that the relocation of AMERICA’S industrial base would be RELOCATED to the “Middle Kingdom”….and with it, our future as a thriving CREDITOR nation. Thanks of course must be given to the incessant and relentless work of the Trilateral Commission and the Council on Foreign Relations, ETC.

    There is some irony of course in all of this. MUCH irony. Painful stuff to swallow, especially for those too stupid or proud or stubborn or worse, NUMB, to digest.

    But Jim, get ready for the LAST ROUNDUP, because what these PLUTOCRATS have in mind for YOU and ME and every other sucker who lives in this land is a replay of the TRAIL OF TEARS. Only this time it’s gonna be all of us walking the trail to a dead end….and I mean a DEAD END.

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    • benr June 16, 2020 at 10:39 am #

      Like soft kill in the form of a vaccine riddled with cancer causing virus?

      Please do expand on your term DEAD END…DUM DUM DUM.

      That was a read right out of Alex Jones play book.
      I can’t of course say you are wrong.

      • akmofo June 16, 2020 at 11:14 am #

        But wait, there is more.

        Now there be nano technology circuitry to turn off your immune system. They won’t bother with slow death cancer viruses. You will simply be killed by corona viruses and no one will be the wiser. And if they do become the wiser, well then there are always health quarantines and lockdowns or staged riots to institute emergency law and curfews and military lockdown and economic devastation and bankruptcy to crash political dissent. Fun fun fun.

    • Majella June 16, 2020 at 2:54 pm #

      The USA was ‘cashed up’ in the late 80s/early 90s.


  51. Cavepainter June 16, 2020 at 10:09 am #

    Got a laugh out of JHK’s reference to Marval Comics, because its usual content better approximates the understanding of history as presented in political propositions presented by the DNC today. Certainly not that which would be supported by any decently honest scholarship on the subject. The DNCs propositions today are based upon extracted factoids applied in its campaign of demogauging systemic rascism — deprived, thereby, of the “fact’s” broader historical contextual value.

  52. liber8tor June 16, 2020 at 11:04 am #

    Wonder which factions were behind yesterday’s massive cell phone outage? I have heard that disruption of utilities is part of the Asymmetric Warfare plan.

  53. K-Dog June 16, 2020 at 11:37 am #

    A confederate statue is not history. A confederate statue is a knee on the neck of America.

    • akmofo June 16, 2020 at 12:33 pm #

      And yet, a statue of Lenin somehow is to be appreciated for its supposed artistic subtle message, you just argued the other day. Guns too, are now ok, as long as they’re exclusively in the hands of commies and not in the hands of constitutionalists.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 1:09 pm #

        Yes, the eternal bullshit of Kdog. Always hacking away at the roots of our Nation – and the branch he is sitting on.

      • K-Dog June 16, 2020 at 2:02 pm #

        A confederate statue is not art, you make a false equivalence. A confederate statue is a statement of white power in violation of the 13th amendment. In America Lenin has no history and can’t be anything but art. I don’t think Lenin was ever here. Confederate statues are apples and oranges different.

        *The Lenin statue came from the Czechoslovak Socialist Republic and not the Ukraine as I reported last week.

        And yet, a statue of Lenin somehow is to be appreciated for its supposed artistic subtle message,

        On the surface that looks logical and suggests I am unfair. When the truth value is fully evaluated however the statement says I can appreciate what I like.

        And you don’t have to like it.

        So thank you.

        • Q. Shtik June 16, 2020 at 2:33 pm #

          and not the Ukraine – K-Dog

        • akmofo June 16, 2020 at 3:02 pm #

          You like Lenin because?

    • Cavepainter June 16, 2020 at 1:19 pm #

      You illustrate my point exactly. Yes, slaves were chattel, whereas the outrages commited toward labor by production owners and managers in the North were no less exploitative upon the floods of European immigrants who arrived here penniless, unaccustomed and language challenged. It was defacto “ownership” and sexual predation was no less than that of southern plantation owners and overseers.

      As fact, plantation owners vied with one another in having the most refined bourgeios class of slaves, a conduct of pride not different from the titled, baronic and aristocratic classes of Europe which southern plantation owners modeled themselve after. Not unusually, plantation bourgeois Blacks (domestics, livery and such) were often better dressed, housed, fed and educated than poor Whites off plantation, hence the reference by this class of bourgios Blacks to poor Whites as “White trash”. Too, after the civil war field hand slaves sometimes tried to gain deference by claiming to be of the displaced bourgeios class, thus “uppity nigger”.

      Should I go on about abolishionist being a minority against which working class Whites often rioted against, not only because freed slaves and escapees they saw as cultural threat by a lower race but because of their effect of lowering the wage floor (owners and managers welcomed them for virue signal value — not sentiments of opposition to slavery itself).

    • Q. Shtik June 16, 2020 at 2:27 pm #

      A confederate statue is a knee on the neck of America. – K-Dog


      What if I told you I am offended by the glorification of torture (and I truly am) as depicted by crucifixes. Shall we get rid of every last one of them? There are millions. It could be the work of a lifetime.

    • cbeard June 17, 2020 at 6:36 pm #

      The knee will one day be on your neck is there is any justice in the universe.

  54. K-Dog June 16, 2020 at 1:13 pm #

    Listening to Trump throw napalm on the flames now. A total lack of understanding the pig now doubles down.

    Trump is advocating less lethal weapons. That is big of him. Price is no object as the orange idiot man doubles down. I hope Trump stays out of the birth control business. Less lethal is still dead motherfucker. He wants to up-fund the police. This will not make people happy, only his base, and he still has one. Some will follow this pig of a pied-piper to the grave.

    Trump claims the country has made progress in criminal justice reform since he has taken office. Great progress. Obama and Biden did not know how to do it and he claims he does and has been.

    Trump claims a thriving economy (rich getting richer) is the best thing America can do for the black man and American minorities.

    Yes Massah.

    Go down Moses,
    ‘Way down in Egypt land
    Tell ol’ Pharaoh
    To let my people go.

    Trump thinks he can talk shit to his base and all will be good. Trump thinks a vaccine and a thriving economy will grow his base by the end of the year and all will be good – for him. Seeing no reason for change Trump stays the course. His weakness glows.

    One national family, oh this racist pig lays it on thick. But truth is it is Trump who is as thick as a brick. Trump thinks he can make a future if he only believes in it enough. And he is not wrong, Trump does indeed make a dead future for our nation. A nation dedicated to inequity and the preservation of privilege and unearned riches. This is what Trump gives us.

    It is clear that the White House will be trusting our nations future to the ‘Law of Attraction’ and you don’t get a vote on this. The positive and negative thoughts of Donald J Trump will now create our future reality. Nothing else matters now but how Trump feels and what he thinks, so you better think it is good.

    With over 116000 dead and only a 5% national exposure rate things could change and Mr. Trump will experience the fact that personal accountability and not fantastical whims determine his fate. It is something Trump will experience but that does not mean he will understand. Trump can’t understand, it is not in him to understand.

    Most of America think covid will be over by the end of summer. They will be finding out they are wrong and Trump is a dead man walking.

    Not even hearing demands for social justice will bring on a very violent end to things. How you feel about the racial turmoil in America is one thing. Ignoring what other people are saying is another thing altogether. Ignoring that thing is nothing less than stupid.

    • K-Dog June 16, 2020 at 1:18 pm #

      And stupid is as Trump does.

      • Nightowl June 16, 2020 at 6:12 pm #

        Let’s discuss stupid.

        Here’s a take from your own post: “less lethal weapons.”

        The term is less than lethal, which has an entirely different meaning.


        • Laundromat Blues June 16, 2020 at 8:39 pm #

          That’s not stupid, that’s careless, as the Grammar Nazis would say. Dumb is the way Trump talks, the way he gestures, his entire shtick. But stupid are the people who have faith in his leadership. Trump supporters make Catholics appear reasonable.

          • Nightowl June 17, 2020 at 2:57 am #

            It is stupid, as it indicates lazy, disorganized thinking. He has parroted the term so often, he never stopped to think about what it meant. He even put it in bold face to emphasize it.

            Much in the same way you parrot the idea that Trump is Hitler.

            This kind of thinking is so lazy that is not worthy of discussion or engagement on an adult level.

            The only solution is to mock you, broseph.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 1:37 pm #

      The riots in 60’s were ended by force. Nixon promised and Nixon delivered. Say his Name! Endless concessions just bring more demands and rioting. If rioting works, why not? Pretty simple to understand for simple souls who can understand things that “think shops” (Gurdjieff) like Kdog simply cannot.

      • K-Dog June 16, 2020 at 2:20 pm #

        The riots in 60’s were ended by force but now 60 years later we still have riots. Meaning they were not actually ended but only temporarily suppressed for their cause has smoldered like a bog fire that just won’t go out all this time. A problem never solved never went away.

        Your mentation is in error.. By your thinking there should be no race issue in America at all now because force would have solved it. That is the logical consequence of your thinking and contrary to evidence. You advocate violence as a solution but that solution has clearly not worked but you claim it has; and that is as nuts as Trump. Bat-shit crazy. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result and that is what you are doing here.

        • akmofo June 16, 2020 at 2:55 pm #

          Is that how you Commies define Communism?

        • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 3:01 pm #

          That’s because we didn’t separate. Obviously the enemy is still there right next to us. As Jefferson said, separate or you will mix. There is no third option. And the mixing means the end of our Civilization since it is a product of our unique genome. Destroying what’s left of our culture will help to demoralize us further – making us less attractive to our women and the minorities ever more attractive. Bin Ladin’s comparison again. And to not be ruined, White men will have to shut up and take the knee and accept servitude. Since the mind hates dissonance, many will accept their servitude as what they deserve – since that is the message constantly blared out.

          And remember, just the other night you were talking about racial equality! Very few Blacks are interested in equality, Dog. If you think so, you know very few of them or are just a completely clueless dupe.

  55. BackRowHeckler June 16, 2020 at 1:27 pm #

    Hey, combat between China and India in the Himilayas.

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  56. Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 1:34 pm #

    This is the full text of Enoch Powell’s famous “Rivers of Blood” speech to the Annual General Meeting of the West Midlands Area Conservative Political Centre, Birmingham, England, April 20, 1968.

    The supreme function of statesmanship is to provide against preventable evils. In seeking to do so, it encounters obstacles which are deeply rooted in human nature. One is that by the very order of things such evils are not demonstrable until they have occurred: At each stage in their onset there is room for doubt and for dispute whether they be real or imaginary. By the same token, they attract little attention in comparison with current troubles, which are both indisputable and pressing: whence the besetting temptation of all politics to concern itself with the immediate present at the expense of the future. Above all, people are disposed to mistake predicting troubles for causing troubles and even for desiring troubles: “if only,” they love to think, “if only people wouldn’t talk about it, it probably wouldn’t happen.” Perhaps this habit goes back to the primitive belief that the word and the thing, the name and the object, are identical. At all events, the discussion of future grave but, with effort now, avoidable evils is the most unpopular and at the same time the most necessary occupation for the politician. Those who knowingly shirk it, deserve, and not infrequently receive, the curses of those who come after.

    A week or two ago I fell into conversation with a constituent, a middle-aged, quite ordinary working man employed in one of our nationalized industries. After a sentence or two about the weather, he suddenly said: “If I had the money to go, I wouldn’t stay in this country.” I made some deprecatory reply, to the effect that even this Government wouldn’t last forever; but he took no notice, and continued: “I have three children, all of them have been through grammar school and two of them married now, with family. I shan’t be satisfied till I have seen them settled overseas. In this country in fifteen or twenty years’ time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man.”

    I can already hear the chorus of execration. How dare I say such a horrible thing? How dare I stir up trouble and inflame feelings by repeating such a conversation? The answer is that I do not have the right not to do so. Here is a decent, ordinary fellow Englishman, who in broad daylight in my own town says to me, his Member of Parliament, that this country will not be worth living in for his children. I simply do not have the right to shrug my shoulders and think about something else. What he is saying, thousands and hundreds of thousands are saying and thinking — not throughout Great Britain, perhaps, but in the areas that are already undergoing the total transformation to which there is no parallel in a thousand years of English history.

    In fifteen or twenty years, on present trends, there will be in this country 3.5 million Commonwealth immigrants and their descendants. That is not my figure. That is the official figure given to Parliament by the spokesman of the Registrar General’s office. There is no comparable official figure for the year 2000, but it must be in the region of 5 to 7 million, approximately one-tenth of the whole population, and approaching that of Greater London. Of course, it will not be evenly distributed from Margate to Aberystwyth and from Penzance to Aberdeen. Whole areas, towns, and parts of towns across England will be occupied by different sections of the immigrant and immigrant-descended population.

    As time goes on, the proportion of this total who are immigrant descendants, those born in England, who arrived here by exactly the same route as the rest of us, will rapidly increase. Already by 1985 the native-born would constitute the majority. It is this fact above all which creates the extreme urgency of action now, of just that kind of action which is hardest for politicians to take, action where the difficulties lie in the present but the evils to be prevented or minimized lie several parliaments ahead.

    The natural and rational first question with a nation confronted by such a prospect is to ask: “How can its dimensions be reduced?” Granted it be not wholly preventable, can it be limited, bearing in mind that numbers are of the essence: the significance and consequences of an alien element introduced into a country or population are profoundly different according to whether that element is 1 percent or 10 percent. The answers to the simple and rational question are equally simple and rational: by stopping or virtually stopping, further inflow, and by promoting the maximum outflow. Both answers are part of the official policy of the Conservative Party.

    It almost passes belief that at this moment twenty or thirty additional immigrant children are arriving from overseas in Wolverhampton alone every week — and that means fifteen or twenty additional families of a decade or two hence. Those whom the gods wish to destroy, they first make mad. We must be mad, literally mad, as a nation to be permitting the annual inflow of some 50,000 dependents, who are for the most part the material of the future growth of the immigrant-descended population. It is like watching a nation busily engaged in heaping up its own funeral pyre. So insane are we that we actually permit unmarried persons to immigrate for the purpose of founding a family with spouses and fiancées whom they have never seen. Let no one suppose that the flow of dependents will automatically tail off. On the contrary, even at the present admission rate of only 5,000 a year by voucher, there is sufficient for a further 325,000 dependents per annum ad infinitum, without taking into account the huge reservoir of existing relations in this country — and I am making no allowance at all for fraudulent entry. In these circumstances nothing will suffice but that the total inflow for settlement should be reduced at once to negligible proportions, and that the necessary legislative and administrative measures be taken without delay. I stress the words “for settlement.” This has nothing to do with the entry of Commonwealth citizens, any more than of aliens, into this country, for the purposes of study or of improving their qualifications, like (for instance) the Commonwealth doctors who, to the advantage of their own countries, have enabled our hospital service to be expanded faster than would otherwise have been possible. These are not, and never have been, immigrants.

    I turn to re-emigration. If all immigration ended tomorrow, the rate of growth of the immigrant and immigrant-descended population would be substantially reduced, but the prospective size of this element in the population would still leave the basic character of the national danger unaffected. This can only be tackled while a considerable proportion of the total still comprises persons who entered this country during the last ten years or so. Hence the urgency of implementing now the second element of the Conservative Party’s policy: the encouragement of re-emigration. Nobody can make an estimate of the numbers which, with generous grants and assistance, would choose either to return to their countries of origin or to go to other countries anxious to receive the manpower and the skills they represent. Nobody knows, because no such policy has yet been attempted. I can only say that, even at present, immigrants in my own constituency from time to time come to me, asking if I can find them assistance to return home. If such a policy were adopted and pursued with the determination which the gravity of the alternative justifies, the resultant outflow could appreciably alter the prospects for the future.

    It can be no part of any policy that existing families should be kept divided; but there are two directions in which families can be reunited, and if our former and present immigration laws have brought about the division of families, albeit voluntary or semi-voluntarily, we ought to be prepared to arrange for them to be reunited in their countries of origin. In short, suspension of immigration and encouragement of re-emigration hang together, logically and humanly, as two aspects of the same approach.

    The third element of the Conservative Party’s policy is that all who are in this country as citizens should be equal before the law and that there shall be no discrimination or difference made between them by public authority. As Mr. Heath has put it, we will have no “first-class citizens” and “second-class citizens.” This does not mean that the immigrant and his descendants should be elevated into a privileged or special class or that the citizen should be denied his right to discriminate in the management of his own affairs between one fellow citizen and another or that he should be subjected to inquisition as to his reasons and motives for behaving in one lawful manner rather than another.

    There could be no grosser misconception of the realities than is entertained by those who vociferously demand legislation as they call it “against discrimination,” whether they be leader-writers of the same kidney and sometimes on the same newspapers which year after year in the 1930s tried to blind this country to the rising peril which confronted it, or archbishops who live in palaces, faring delicately with the bedclothes pulled right over their heads. They have got it exactly and diametrically wrong. The discrimination and the deprivation, the sense of alarm and resentment, lies not with the immigrant population but with those among whom they have come and are still coming. This is why to enact legislation of the kind before Parliament at this moment is to risk throwing a match on to the gunpowder. The kindest thing that can be said about those who propose and support it is they know not what they do.

    Nothing is more misleading than comparison between the Commonwealth immigrant in Britain and the American Negro. The Negro population of the United States, which was already in existence before the United States became a nation, started literally as slaves and were later given the franchise and other rights of citizenship, to the exercise of which they have only gradually and still incompletely come. The Commonwealth immigrant came to Britain as a full citizen, to a country which knows no discrimination between one citizen and another, and he entered instantly into the possession of the rights of every citizen, from the vote to free treatment under the National Health Service. Whatever drawbacks attended the immigrants — and they were drawbacks which did not, and do not, make admission into Britain by hook or by crook appear less than desirable — arose not from the law or from public policy or from administration but from those personal circumstances and accidents which cause, and always will cause, the fortunes and experience of one man to be different for another’s.

    But while to the immigrant entry to this country was admission to privileges and opportunities eagerly sought, the impact upon the existing population was very different. For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country. They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school places, their homes and neighborhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the immigrant worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the native-born worker; they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted. On top of this, they now learn that a one-way privilege is to be established by Act of Parliament: a law, which cannot, and is not intended, to operate to protect them or redress their grievances, is to be enacted to give the stranger, the disgruntled and the agent provocateur the power to pillory them for their private actions.

    In the hundreds upon hundreds of letters I received when I last spoke on this subject two or three months ago, there was one striking feature which was largely new and which I find ominous. All Members of Parliament are used to the typical anonymous correspondent; but what surprised and alarmed me was the high proportion of ordinary, decent, sensible people, writing a rational and often well-educated letter, who believed that they had to omit their address because it was dangerous to have committed themselves to paper to a Member of Parliament agreeing with the views I had expressed, and that they would risk either penalties or reprisals if they were known to have done so. The sense of being a persecuted minority which is growing among ordinary English people in the areas of the country which are affected is something that those without direct experience can hardly imagine. I am going to allow just one of those hundreds of people to speak for me. She did give her name and address, which I have detached from the letter which I am about to read. She was writing from Northumberland about something which is happening at this moment in my own constituency:

    Eight years ago in a respectable street in Wolverhampton a house was sold to a Negro. Now only one white (a woman old-age pensioner) lives there. This is her story. She lost her husband and both her sons in the war. So she turned her seven-roomed house, her only asset, into a boarding house. She worked hard and did well, paid off her mortgage, and began to put something by for her old age. Then the immigrants moved in. With growing fear, she saw one house after another taken over. The quiet streets became a place of noise and confusion. Regretfully, her white tenants moved out.

    The day after the last one left, she was awakened at 7 a.m. by two Negroes who wanted to use her phone to contact their employer. When she refused, as she would have refused any stranger at such an hour, she was abused and feared she would have been attacked but for the chain on her door. Immigrant families have tried to rent rooms in her house, but she always refused. Her little store of money went, and after paying her rates, she had less than £2 per week. She went to apply for a rate reduction and was seen by a young girl, who on hearing she had a seven-roomed house, suggested she should let part of it. When she said the only people she could get were Negroes, the girl said “racial prejudice won’t get you anywhere in this country.” So she went home.

    The telephone is her lifeline. Her family pay the bill, and help her out as best they can. Immigrants have offered to buy her house — at a price which the prospective landlord would be able to recover from his tenants in weeks, or at most in a few months. She is becoming afraid to go out. Windows are broken. She finds excreta pushed through her letterbox. When she goes to the shops, she is followed by children, charming, wide-grinning piccaninnies. They cannot speak English, but one word they know. “Racialist,” they chant. When the new Race Relations Bill is passed, this woman is convinced she will go to prison. And is she so wrong? I begin to wonder.

    The other dangerous delusion from which those who are willfully or otherwise blind to realities suffer, is summed up in the word “integration.” To be integrated into a population means to become for all practical purposes indistinguishable from its other members. Now, at all times, where there are marked physical differences, especially of color, integration is difficult though, over a period, not impossible. There are among the Commonwealth immigrants have come to live here in the last fifteen years or so, many thousands whose wish and purpose is to be integrated and whose every thought and endeavor is bent in that direction. But to imagine that such a thing enters the heads of a great and growing majority of immigrants and their descendants is a ludicrous misconception, and a dangerous one to boot.

    We are on the verge of here of a change. Hitherto it has been force of circumstance and of background which has rendered the very idea of integration inaccessible to the greater part of the immigrant population — that they never conceived or intended such a thing, and that their numbers and physical concentration meant the pressures towards integration which normally bear upon any small minority did not operate. Now we are seeing the growth of positive forces acting against integration, of vested interests in the preservation and sharpening of racial and religious differences, with a view to the exercise of action domination, first over fellow immigrants and then over the rest of the population. The cloud no bigger than a man’s hand, that can so rapidly overcast the sky, has been visible recently in Wolverhampton and has shown signs of spreading quickly. The words I am about to use, verbatim as they appeared in the local press on 17 February, are not mine, but those of a Labour Member of Parliament who is a Minister in the present Government.

    The Sikh communities’ campaign to maintain customs inappropriate in Britain is much to be regretted. Working in Britain, particularly in the public services, they should be prepared to accept the terms and conditions of their employment. To claim special communal rights (or should one say rites?) leads to a dangerous fragmentation within society. This communalism is a canker. Whether practiced by one color or another it is to be strongly condemned.

    All credit to John Stonehouse for having had the insight to perceive that, and the courage to say it.

    For these dangerous and divisive elements the legislation proposed in the Race Relations Bill is the very pabulum they need to flourish. Here is the means of showing that the immigrant communities can organize to consolidate their members, to agitate and campaign against their fellow citizens, and to overawe and dominate the rest with the legal weapons which the ignorant and the ill-informed have provided. As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see “the River Tiber foaming with much blood.” That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the United States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect. Indeed, it has all but come. In numerical terms, it will be of American proportions long before the end of the century. Only resolute and urgent action will avert it even now. Whether there will be the public will to demand and obtain that action, I do not know. All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.

    JS: Enoch Powell was right. The hostile aliens have been brought in by the million and put over White Englishmen via things like the Race Relations Act. The State is on their side in any conflict. Powell loved the Indians, and was obviously thinking of the Blacks. But obviously endless Pakis and Indian Muslims would do the trick all by themselves. Or even Hindu Indians in the end, though they are much more peaceful. They follow the Life Force too after all. If given an advantage, they will take it. If put over the Whites, they will feel like conquerors too.

    Tragically similar to the United States – the Conservatives do nothing. Used Powell as a campaign prop and then never followed thru as Margaret Thatcher did. As Trump had done. Politics has failed and it’s time for War now. Or the White Man and his Civilization go down into eternal night.

    • Kakadu Man June 16, 2020 at 3:31 pm #

      Can you even imagine how unspeakably dull Britain would be today without immigration from Commonwealth countries … good grief – a Podunk Indiana of 60 million plain vanilla souls!

      Can you imagine the food, or the dancing, or the language or the music, or the sport, or the clothes, or the church services … my goodness. I think white nationalists | segregations should be very careful of what they wish for; terminal boredom is on the cards.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 3:47 pm #

        Your hatred for the Whites of Britain is noted, Tribesman.

        • Kakadu Man June 16, 2020 at 4:21 pm #

          I don’t hate whites at all … just racist nuttiness. You’re only here because you were kicked off all social media.

          • SoftStarLight June 16, 2020 at 5:06 pm #

            Yes you do and that is fact. You have already stated on many different and various occasions how awfully horrible white people are on every level. You’re not fooling us and you aren’t fooling yourself so then do you lie just because it’s fun?

            If you aren’t lying then let us know how horrible all-black and all-brown countries are. Naturally you do believe all countries must be diversified and mixed completely correct?

          • Kakadu Man June 16, 2020 at 5:27 pm #

            I don’t know why you bother to presume to know what I think. I hate racism, white supremacist poison, white nationalist xenophobia, anti-immigration zealotry, discrimination and bigotry, and white segregationist sludge.

            I don’t hate whites, and I don’t feel guilty about being white. I do watch / check my privilege however, and don’t lecture POC from my more well-off position. One of the responsibilities of being white (and liberal) is being supportive of minorities … and besides, whites have no reason to feel themselves superior.

            Each and every white supremacist is unconfident and insecure … and besides, welcoming diversity and immigration is acting in my own self interest – I find monocultures dull and boring, lacking liveliness.

            The colour and movement of a multicultural society is an absolute joy to live in. I don’t feel the slightest need – like many on here do – to carry on about doom and gloom and fear and loathing and white victimhood. YMMV.

            It’s the same kind of thinking that infuriates conservatives regarding the Supreme Court decision. Setting aside the not-small issue of Gorsuch not being quite the tame lapdog they thought they were getting, they believe equal rights for LGBTQ groups is an attack on ‘religious freedom’.

            Well fuck that – just because you’re a happy-clapping bible-thumper doesn’t give the right to sack people because they’re gay. You don’t have that ‘freedom’. Don’t like it? Tough bikkies … move to Colombia or Latvia, and pick your own supreme court!

          • SoftStarLight June 16, 2020 at 5:51 pm #

            Again you can’t answer a very specific question. Do you believe all-black and all-brown countries need to be thoroughly ethnically mixed the way in which you say white countries absolutely must be. There are no all-white countries anyway.

            You are wealthy and that is why you have no concerns similar to anyone here. You are part of the ruling class. And then you tell me that I have absolutely no right to my opinions and you are happy to tell me I have to go somewhere because my opinions are different than yours.

            You are an absolute and completely intolerant authoritarian. I have no responsibilities to any society that treats me like a non-person. Your rules and values equally have zero legitimacy to me.

          • Kakadu Man June 16, 2020 at 6:04 pm #

            Again you can’t answer a very specific question. Do you believe all-black and all-brown countries need to be thoroughly ethnically mixed the way in which you say white countries absolutely must be. There are no all-white countries anyway.

            I’m no expert on all-black or all-brown (or all-yellow) countries, but of the ones I’ve visited, I have the same view as for Western countries … diversity of people, the embrace of multiculturalism, and freedom of the mind from the poison of racism – it’s the best way to live, for me.

            Monocultures (of whatever stripe) I like much less.

            However I’ve never used the phrase “absolutely must be”, or anything remotely like it. It is my preference to live amid diversity, and I find white segregationists laughably ridiculous, immature and insecure. And I’ll continue to hold those views.

            Answer your question comrade?

          • SoftStarLight June 16, 2020 at 6:17 pm #

            Yes. Actually I must say that you did Kakadu. Ok so let me round this out then. Ok, so you also find black segregationist and brown segregationist and yellow segregations, etc, etc., to be all those things that you think white segregationists are right? Like insecure and laughably ridiculous and all.

          • Kakadu Man June 16, 2020 at 8:30 pm #

            […] you also find black segregationist and brown segregationist and yellow segregationist, etc, etc., to be all those things that you think white segregationists are right? Like insecure and laughably ridiculous and all.

            As I say, my experience is much less, but to the extent that any people (of whatever skin colour) live in a xenophobic bubble, not welcoming, and distrusting “outsiders” – yes they are ridiculous in my eyes, and terribly limited in vision..

            But for people who are minorities, marginalised, or at the bottom of the food chain, their caution and even xenophobia is much more understandable … say if you were a Amazon River tribe, or Pygmies in Southern Africa, and a whole range of others.

            But for rich powerful nations that are majority white, or otherwise very strong (Japan, Korea, etc), then there is no justification for it, in my view.

            But I’m not stupid, or some left-wing hippie dreamer either … there have to be very thought-through immigration policies, so that a steady flow doesn’t become a flood, and that new arrivals are given decent support so that crime-based enclaves have less chance to flourish.

    • Majella June 16, 2020 at 3:51 pm #

      What a waste of space.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 4:34 pm #

        What, you?

        The cultural destruction of New Zealand continues apace.


        • Kakadu Man June 16, 2020 at 5:54 pm #

          You’re talking rubbish again. From the article:

          Thousands of New Zealand places have been renamed over the past decade – many deemed offensive – and experts say that number could grow as the country improves its understanding of history.

          It’s been going on for decades (and in Australia too). I worked in NZ television in the 1970s … there was a large movement then to restore Maori names where appropriate, plus Maori spelling and pronunciation. Mt Egmont became Taranaki, and in Australia, Ayers Rock became Uluru.

          These culturally appropriate and sensible reforms are overwhelmingly supported and aren’t contentious. It’s only white supremacist nutters who hit the bullhorns and rage about it.

          I’m sure you probably even want Denali to be called Mt McKinley.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 5:59 pm #

            Why would any White Man consent to this nonsense? We’re the Native Americans. We founded and built America, not the stone age indigenees.

          • Kakadu Man June 16, 2020 at 6:07 pm #

            Why would any White Man consent to this nonsense?

            Because not all white people hold hateful, racist, xenophobic, supremacist views. Surely even you can understand that.

          • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2020 at 6:28 pm #

            Phew! you were one Woke Dude even back in the day, Cargill.

        • Majella June 16, 2020 at 8:56 pm #

          Your usual selective gleaning of headlines, Skorenzy.

          ALL of these name changes are simply a reversion to what they were known as for centuries prior to the arrival of the Pakeha.

          The names are also, objectively, more beautiful: I herald from Dunedin, the Maori name for which is Otepoti, and the area is called Otakou, which was bastardized to “Otago” and applied to the province in which Otepoti stands.

          But I won’t waste my time trying to convince you of the value of ‘alien’ voices. You’re too far gone up your own bleached arsehole.

          The space I was referring to as being wasted was that you used to fill with Powell’s ‘Blood in the Streets’ bullshit.

          • Kakadu Man June 17, 2020 at 5:45 am #

            But I won’t waste my time trying to convince you of the value of ‘alien’ voices. You’re too far gone up your own bleached arsehole.

            I actually don’t even think she has a bleached arsehole … I think she’s probably got quite a black one – and can’t cope with it, poor bugger. Racial shame is such a bummer … LOL!

          • Majella June 17, 2020 at 6:05 am #

            When did Skorenzy lose his manhood?

    • Q. Shtik June 16, 2020 at 4:35 pm #

      A person has to admit, this was a terrific speech. Fifty two years have elapsed and I’m wondering if his dire forecast that “In numerical terms, it will be of American proportions long before the end of the century.” has come to pass. If you have a reliable source I’d be interested in the data. But please don’t provide guesses.

      • Q. Shtik June 16, 2020 at 5:00 pm #

        The key to everything is in the two paragraphs that speak about integration. In the case of the USA it is my observation that Blacks are less integrated into the common culture than they were 56 years ago when the Civil Rights laws were passed. And there is every reason to believe that this is by deliberate choice. I offer as Exhibit A, Black speech (mentioned in Jim’s previous blog essay).

        Does anyone here see us becoming one big happy family by the end of this century? I don’t.

        • Rupert June 17, 2020 at 1:06 pm #

          As the resource situation becomes more dire, the distinctions will grow evermore stark.

          I’m curious if the kumbaya crowd would find me an intolerable bigot for preferring to feed mine own rather than give up sustenance that others may live instead. I think they would.

          We may be faced with choices like that in the near future. I’d rather not be in a place with a lot of diversity and latent intertribal strife when that day comes.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 5:56 pm #

        The speech is on tape. He is a very good speaker, though I don’t know if it’s still on youtube or not. The internet is now impoverished. I used to be able to find many versions of the Protocols. But last week when I was looking for a verse to cut and paste, I could not even find one.

        • Kakadu Man June 16, 2020 at 6:54 pm #

          I used to be able to find many versions of the Protocols. But last week when I was looking for a verse to cut and paste, I could not even find one.

          Have you tried the Children’s Fiction section at your local library?

        • Q. Shtik June 17, 2020 at 10:15 pm #

          The speech is on tape. – Janos


          I researched this and learned that only a few mins worth of the original speech were recorded. At some point much later an actor was hired to deliver the entire speech and they made a kind of a show out of it. This stirred up a lot of bad feelings about racism. There were other pieces you could Google which said that EP’s dire predictions did not come true.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 5:57 pm #

        I’ll keep my eyes open for that data.

        • Majella June 17, 2020 at 9:22 pm #

          Just make it up, Skorenzy, if you can’t find someone else’s made-up ‘data’. It’s what you usually do.

  57. Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 1:53 pm #

    Gorsuch sodomizes the twitching corpse of America.


    If this is a conservative, I’d hate to meet a liberal.

    • K-Dog June 16, 2020 at 2:36 pm #

      You are confused at the difference between a conservative and a liberal. Fair treatment under the law is not a conservative/liberal issue. I’d tell you what the difference between a liberal and conservative is but that is not my job and you would not listen anyway.

      That you are confused surprises nobody here.

      In this situation confusion and anger is reserved for those on the low end of the bell curve and I’m sorry you find yourself in distress.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 3:07 pm #

        There is no real difference obviously. One type is more interested in economics and others politics. Both believe in massive immigration. Both are against Whites and Western Culture. True or False: The Evil Corporations are behind BLM 100%? My case is made.

        It’s one Beast System, Dog. And you are a little beast….

      • SoftStarLight June 16, 2020 at 5:09 pm #

        LOL fair treatment under the law. There is no pretense of that. Rioters and looters can specifically target people for assault and worse for the color of their skin and no hate crime laws are broken. In fact they aren’t charged for anything at all.

        Churches can’t even have drive through service during the pandemic but rioters and looters can bust out on the street full stop. Fair treatment LOL.

        • K-Dog June 17, 2020 at 12:10 am #

          Riotors and looters are not the issue here, this is about a Supreme Court decision.

    • Kakadu Man June 16, 2020 at 3:39 pm #

      What is truly astounding (and repulsive) is that three Supreme Court justices voted against this clear-cut equal-treatment decision. Land of the free, Home the brave … not!

      • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 3:52 pm #

        Throw them to the Brahmins (the Black Mob)!

      • Majella June 16, 2020 at 3:57 pm #

        With any luck, SCOTUS will rule on the tax subpoenas equally as fairly.

  58. Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 3:04 pm #

    Trump stumbles and said he strongly disagrees with any attempt to “defend” the police.

    But he didn’t stumble when saying that we will now have social workers (revolutionary guards) doing police work.

    • capt spaulding June 17, 2020 at 12:00 pm #

      He almost stumbled on that ramp too.

    • Majella June 17, 2020 at 9:32 pm #

      “we will now have social workers (revolutionary guards) doing police work.”


      What you HAVE HAD is Police doing Social Work and they fecking HATE it.

      Fund the OTHER social services adequately and leave the police to the actual crime.

      Take a look at any other police service as opposed to ‘force’ and see where the USA is doing it all wrong.


  59. BackRowHeckler June 16, 2020 at 4:33 pm #

    Best scene in the past two weeks.

    Looting in Minneapolis, community members smashing thru a store window and rush in. After a few minutes dozens of looters stumble out arms full of merchandise. One last looter comes out carrying an enormous sign that read:


    Then the building burst into flames.

    “Check your privilege, Bro!”


  60. mrmiller June 16, 2020 at 4:51 pm #

    Perhaps James is being too pessimistic. Although the nation is acting completely insane in some ways, I have managed to convince the neoliberals to overhaul our cities, which happened a little less than a year ago. I haven’t really heard much from them on this topic since then, but it took a lot of work to get to that point.

    People talk about all sorts of things. They are capable of multi-tasking. There are lots of pressing issues in our country, not just one. However, as an overarching concern, I think that overhauling our cities to make them less dependent on oil and extravagent resource use should be palatable to most people across the entire political spectrum. But right now, this issue does seem to be getting buried.

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    • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2020 at 5:00 pm #

      Overhauling our cities?

      140 of them just had their business districts looted, gutted and burned out. What’s left to overhaul?


    • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2020 at 5:14 pm #

      Besides there’s no money to rebuild those sh#tholes, this ain’t 1968. They got burned out for the last time. Better to level them and spread salt over the ground like the Roman’s did to Carthage.


      • mrmiller June 16, 2020 at 5:54 pm #

        Where I live, there hasn’t been any notable vandalism, just extreme car dependency and seas of asphalt.

        • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2020 at 5:57 pm #

          Oh I hear you on that, Mr Miller, that’s what brought me to this site to begin with.

          But people are leaving central cities in droves, there’s no going back.


          • mrmiller June 16, 2020 at 6:17 pm #

            Glad I’m not the only one. My city is just suburbs with a poorly designed city center, IMO. And most people, especially my family, ridicule me for wanting less car dependency. Americans are like fish to water with their precious cars. For what it’s worth though, actual cities are horrible to live in as well. I used to hate on the suburbs, and still do, but they are certainly better than downtown Salt Lake. Even though downtown areas offer more employment opportunities, they are dirty and gross in general. Now if we could just convince Americans to start farming more on their own properties, including their front lawns, we might actually make some progress!

    • Nightowl June 16, 2020 at 6:23 pm #

      In the Open Society plantation, you won’t need oil. So no worries.

  61. Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2020 at 5:52 pm #


    Superb article. And contributions to BLM go to the Democratic Party almost completely as other have already pointed.

    One commenter said that he will be found out by analyzing samples of professorial writing. Is there a way to prevent this? As in a computer program that makes your writing style different or generic without losing the meaning and themes? Or are we not there yet? I suppose a ghost writer could be hired, but the risk of exposure would be great. It would make them a hero even if they weren’t that ideologically committed.

    • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2020 at 6:34 pm #

      Did The Woodpile Report get deep sixed too?

    • Q. Shtik June 16, 2020 at 8:58 pm #

      Superb article. – Janos


      I agree.

      When, near the end of his email, he outs himself as black I said to myself “that does it, the jig is up (pun intended), so much for anonymity.” How many black history professors could there be at UCB?

      I would love to send this email and the Enoch Powell speech to my family members but I fear stirring up a shit storm.

      • benr June 17, 2020 at 9:34 am #

        @ Q

        Trust me no amount of data is going to change a mind that has not seen some of it already just in having lived.
        They will just chock it up to Rightwing lies and consider you that crazy old uncle.
        How ever it could be that one piece of data that starts them down the path to understanding how they have been conned for years.

        • Q. Shtik June 17, 2020 at 1:33 pm #

          They will just chock [chalk] it up to Rightwing lies – benr

          In the old days when we had blackboards we wrote on them with chalk, not chock.

          • benr June 18, 2020 at 10:20 am #

            Or chock as in put under a wheel or shore up.
            As in shore up the thought you are the crazy old uncle.

          • Majella June 19, 2020 at 5:17 am #

            benr – just say “Thanks, Q. I didn’t know that”.

            But you’re not big on accepting well-meant advice, are you. Never mind. Stay small & miserable – it suits you.

          • Q. Shtik June 19, 2020 at 5:30 pm #

            benr – just say “Thanks, Q. I didn’t know that”. – Maj


            Thanks Maj, that would have been the gracious thing for benr to do.

    • scoubidou123 June 16, 2020 at 10:49 pm #

      I had read the article, but, though I agree with its content, I am not quite sure about the “black Berkeley history professor” part.

      Is the author who he claims to be? Hmmm. How many black faculty at UCB? If I rely on https://history.berkeley.edu/people/faculty, he’s basically outed himself. Hmm.

      Cleo not Clio. Hmmm.

    • Kakadu Man June 17, 2020 at 1:25 am #

      From the article:

      All donations to the official BLM website are immediately redirected to ActBlue Charities, an organization primarily concerned with bankrolling election campaigns for Democrat candidates. Donating to BLM today is to indirectly donate to Joe Biden’s 2020 campaign.

      This myth has been debunked – donations to BLM are not directed to the Democratic Party.

      • Nightowl June 17, 2020 at 5:40 am #

        It has been “debunked,” kids.

        And Trump plans to usher in a “White Ethnostate.”

        Critical thinking with Kaka Man.


        • Kakadu Man June 17, 2020 at 5:58 am #

          Your obsession with an “ethnostate” (whatever that is) is decidedly unhealthy … I would seek a cure, and quickly.

          And yes … the conspiracy has been debunked … it’s an alt-right trope … nothing more.

          • Majella June 17, 2020 at 6:13 am #


            Try Hydroxycholoroquine!

            You can pick up a prescription from your bosom buddy alumnus Dr. Ronny, c/- The White House.

            You’ll never live that one down, Tweets. Your refusal to admit that one stupid mistake speaks volumes about your character – or lack thereof, more like. Still, it must be exhausting, living in a bubble of extreme ego, surrounded by morons.

          • Nightowl June 17, 2020 at 9:04 am #

            State the claim and provide concrete, verifiable evidence.

            The floor is yours.

          • GreenAlba June 17, 2020 at 10:23 am #

            Here’s some evidence:



            And a claim (aka emotional diarrhoea)

            Nightowl May 19, 2020 at 10:28 am #
            Perhaps your husband should get in touch with Ronny Jackson [sic]. I am sure he will get Trump off that stuff immediately. The arrogance. FFS.

            Nightowl May 19, 2020 at 11:30 am #
            Quick, tell Trump and Ronny.
            Send them the link you found on the Interwebz.

            Nightowl May 19, 2020 at 4:25 pm #
            She is already backpedaling. Note the last sentence.
            As I said, send your findings to the team of physicians assisting the President of the United States.

            Nightowl May 20, 2020 at 7:47 am #
            Mentioning that the President takes the drug and is advised by a group of accomplished physicians is “name dropping.”
            Emotions getting the best of you again.

            Nightowl May 20, 2020 at 4:06 pm #
            Ah, yes. The President takes it, and the President is advised by a group of highly talented physicians.
            The President needs the blessing of this highly respected group, or else he cannot take the drug, as this group is responsible for the health of one of the most powerful men in the world.
            Clearly this is all a sham, because you know better.
            I have injured the narcissist.

            Nightowl May 21, 2020 at 6:36 am #
            “I am right! The President’s medical team is wrong!”

            Nightowl May 21, 2020 at 4:31 pm #
            You are a full on narc., Green. It is enjoyable to razz you because you fly off the handle every time anyone even mildly challenges you. And you make it so easy.
            Pause for a moment and think about what you suggested here — That you know more than a team of elite professionals responsbile [sic] for the life of the President of the United States.
            And you really believe it.
            It is beyond parody.”

            The floor is yours, Tweets.

            “My wife is German and always used to say that most Americans she met seemed to be in a state of arrested development, like “kidults” — and that disagreements were often dealt with through emotional outbursts rather than logic or a willingness to engage based on facts.
            I generally agreed, but I now have a new appreciation for this insight.”

            Yes, Tweets, don’t we all?f

            And given your faith in HCQ turned out to be horse manure, we’ll bear it in mind every time you mention masks, fact-free but with a ‘look at my hilarious video’.

            He who LOLs last LOLs best. But I’m very gracious. I’ll accept an apology and say no more about it. Except I realise I’m in third place in the queue for apologies, so in your own time…

          • akmofo June 17, 2020 at 11:02 am #

            Mrs Green,

            Why should the FDA be trusted for anything? They have no credibility. Same for your most acclaimed Medical Journals that publish clearly bogus political propaganda as scientific studies.

          • GreenAlba June 17, 2020 at 11:15 am #

            “Why should the FDA be trusted for anything?”

            Another one with no clue what evidence-based medicine is about, or randomised controlled trials.

            The trials were not carried out by the FDA. The FDA is acting on the evidence of the randomised controlled trials.

            But since everything is Vatican-controlled in your mind, making any point of any kind to you is an utter waste of time. One might as well converse with a doorbell. Press the button and something happens. End of.

          • akmofo June 17, 2020 at 12:58 pm #

            So how do you explain the countess drugs that were approved and then withdrawn because of horrific injuries and deaths. How do explain the FACT that those most vaccinated were the most affected by the corona virus. How do you explain the hundreds of thousands of vaccine injuries and deaths, and the horrific autism epidemic. How do you explain the decades of the cholesterol myth and the nonsense heart disease drugs that only cause harm. How do you explain cancer treatment by using carcinogenic chemicals and radiation. How do you explain our food pyramid that is actually upside down.

            I can go on like this all day, but you can’t fix stupid.

          • GreenAlba June 17, 2020 at 1:46 pm #

            You’re right – you can’t fix stupid.

            Or devious.

            Gish Gallop

            “During a Gish gallop, a debater confronts an opponent with a rapid series of many specious arguments, half-truths, and misrepresentations in a short space of time, which makes it impossible for the opponent to refute all of them within the format of a formal debate.

            “In practice, each point raised by the “Gish galloper” takes considerably more time to refute or fact-check than it did to state in the first place.The technique wastes an opponent’s time and may cast doubt on the opponent’s debating ability for an audience unfamiliar with the technique, especially if no independent fact-checking is involved or if the audience has limited knowledge of the topics.”

            Like I said, Gishy. I’m on to you and you ain’t going to waste my time.

          • Majella June 17, 2020 at 3:27 pm #



            Initially, I thought “My gosh! What a lot of trouble she’s gone to!” Then I saw that these self-damning posts were over only 3 days in May.

            If one were to trawl a little deeper & earlier, who knows what gems of self-aggrandising twaddle could be discovered…such as how many times he’s been impressed with his own IQ, or how many times he’s felt compelled to mention what a prestigious blue-chip corporate master he works for, or his basic “green-liberal” political bent.

            A FIGJAM in the purest sense. Don’t hold your breath on even ACKNOWLEDGEMENT of the post, let alone any apology. Narcissists are not long on the self-reflection suit.

          • Nightowl June 17, 2020 at 6:15 pm #

            Our resident narcissist is spiraling again.

            And in the White House, Trump continues to enjoy his hydroxychloroquine and excellent health.


          • Nightowl June 17, 2020 at 6:22 pm #

            BTW, Kaka Man — we are still waiting for you to provide us with the answer to my question.

            Show the exact claim RE: where the cash ends up and show how it was “debunked” with hard, detailed evidence.

            The floor remains yours, however much you may not want it.

          • Majella June 17, 2020 at 8:24 pm #

            “Our resident narcissist is spiraling again.”

            You sure are, Tweets!

            I note the distinct lack of acknowledgment of GA’s uncovering of your own emotive diarrhea.

            And yet you STILL have a faux expectation of others to provide “hard, detailed evidence” which is in markedly short supply in your own self-serving postings.

            Please provide hard detailed evidence of that “Trump continues to enjoy his hydroxychloroquine and excellent health.”

            The floor is yours. Enquiring minds want to know.

            (Last time President Chlorox mentioned his HCQ habit, he was telling us all that he was almost done with the regimen, even though that’s not how a prophylactic drug works. The fact is it is unlikely he ever took HCQ, unless he could snort it.)

          • Nightowl June 18, 2020 at 4:00 am #

            Careful, Jello.

            When you get excited your posts often end up being deleted.

          • Majella June 18, 2020 at 6:52 am #

            *crickets* – as expected.

            Still awaiting that evidence of your happy, healthy, HCQ-dosed President.

            What? Nothing? You should at least hold yourself to your own standards, wouldn’t you say?

          • GreenAlba June 18, 2020 at 7:14 am #

            “And in the White House, Trump continues to enjoy his hydroxychloroquine and excellent health.


            And in his own basement the narcissistic-egotistical clown bird continues to enjoy the insight of a flea and the lack of any understanding of the scientific process. Too many years of editing fog. Ooh, look at those clever people over there!

            And he doesn’t even see what a clown he’s making of himself. If he had insight he’d just think ‘least said, soonest mended’, but his ego just can’t do that. So he keeps on going ‘tweet, tweet, rage, hiss, tweet, tweet, LOL’.

            Why would Trump not be enjoying excellent health? The point that has to be explained to clown birds is that this has no connection with taking hydroxychloroquine. If it did, this insight would have turned up in the randomised controlled trials. I’m not sure I believe the clown bird EVER worked in STM publishing (with that bunch of clever people). Unless he just fetched the coffee or dusted the desks. Or indeed that he ever did basic science at school.

            “Careful, Jello.

            When you get excited your posts often end up being deleted.”

            No facts. Only emotion. No surprise. Narcissism central – who needs facts?

            But the narcissist can’t… let… go…

            Because hell hath no fury like a narcissist scorned. So the rage will smoulder for a while yet. Expect more posts in a similar vein. It’s hurting so much.

            Hoist by his own petard. Although it may be ‘hanged’ for those who are beginning to lose their first language, despite being an ‘editor’. I think about that every time he writes ‘millenial’. Maybe he thinks it’s the long form of ‘menial’.

          • Nightowl June 18, 2020 at 7:16 am #

            Allow me to assit you in another own goal: The statement is from the President.

            If you claim he is lying, the burden of proof is on you — the accuser.

            This concludes yet another epidode of “Reking Maj.”

          • GreenAlba June 18, 2020 at 7:24 am #

            Tweet, tweet, rage, hiss, tweet, tweet, LOL.

          • Nightowl June 18, 2020 at 12:00 pm #

            Imagine the time Algae spent constructing these posts. And how painful the rekage must have been.

            I have injured the narcissist.


          • GreenAlba June 18, 2020 at 2:19 pm #

            Took a couple of minutes. It was all in the same thread.

            The. Narcissist. Can’t. Let. Go.

            Tweet, tweet, rage, hiss, tweet, tweet, LOL.

            Bet you anything you spell millennial properly the next time, narcissist. 🙂

          • Nightowl June 18, 2020 at 3:18 pm #

            So easy.


          • GreenAlba June 18, 2020 at 4:07 pm #

            You should try not to let it show that you are so utterly destroyed by having chosen sycophancy over facts. I don’t hold it against you – you’re young enough to be impressionable.

            Hope you get some sleep tonight, Tweets.

            I wonder if hydroxychloroquine works for such upsets? 🙂

            So much rage in one so young.

            Poor wee scone.

          • Majella June 18, 2020 at 8:15 pm #


            Allow me to assit (sic) you in another own goal: The statement is from the President.

            If you claim he is lying, the burden of proof is on you — the accuser.

            This concludes yet another epidode (sic) of “Reking Maj.”

            Besides the extremely sloppy typo-checking from a self-proclaimed top-of-the-line, extremely well paid, blue-chip corporate editor, this is a perfect example of the low-IQ sycophantic twaddle you post, Tweets.

            It’s objectively true that, if President Dumbfuckery says ANYTHING, it’s likely to be a falsehood. Res ipsa loquitur.

            It’s amusing how often you claim some sort of imaginary ‘victory’ (“Reking Maj” – your usage is suspect – “rek” relates for the ability of a material to stretch) and proclaiming ‘own goals’ for no particular reason than that your ego has been bruised, I’m guessing, and like any 5-year-old, you get some warped sense of psychological relief from screaming “I know YOU are, but what am I?”

            I think GA has you down to a tee, and you know it.

    • Kakadu Man June 17, 2020 at 1:37 am #

      I wouldn’t call the article “superb”, and one always has to keep a sceptical point of view, as there are such hoaxes everywhere, particularly on very partisan websites.

      But there was a lot of food for thought in there, and given the current incendiary climate, it was quite measured and not abusive … just wanting to make points, and back them up with decent logic.

      There were some obvious right-wing talking points in there, and some heavy ideology, but overall it was well worth the time to read it.

      As a person who has worked both in the academy and the civil service, I can relate to the corporate culture, and the very strict PC boundaries within which one must operate.

  62. Billy Hill June 16, 2020 at 7:12 pm #

    The photograph of “Spazz” sitting on Thomas Jefferson’s lap is iconic.

    I was reminded of some remarks JFK made:

    Extract from John F. Kennedy’s Remarks at a Dinner Honoring Nobel Prize Winners of the Western Hemisphere
    April 29, 1962
    I think this is the most extraordinary collection of talent, of human knowledge, that has ever been gathered together at the White House, with the possible exception of when Thomas Jefferson dined alone. Someone once said that Thomas Jefferson was a gentleman of 32 who could calculate an eclipse, survey an estate, tie an artery, plan an edifice, try a cause, break a horse, and dance the minuet.

    Spazz — I doubt you are listening. I doubt you have the remotest clue. Is it Nature or Nurture?

    Does it make any difference?

  63. Laundromat Blues June 16, 2020 at 7:40 pm #

    Trump can talk the talk but he can’t walk- literally- he can’t walk the walk.

  64. akmofo June 16, 2020 at 8:26 pm #

    “Global Warming” California fires were caused by California utility company PG&E which pleaded guilty to 84 counts of involuntary manslaughter and one count of unlawfully starting the 2018 Fire, the deadliest blaze in the state’s history.

    Where’s Greta? Did her Island home go underwater already?

  65. Laundromat Blues June 16, 2020 at 9:03 pm #

    Like Trump used to enjoy saying 9/11 happened on George W Bush’s watch. Covid 19 happened on Trump’s watch. Damn, ain’t karma a bitch.

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    • benr June 17, 2020 at 11:59 am #

      One has nothing to do with the other only an imbecile would try and connect those two dots.

      One was a failure in the previous administration actually scratch that it was the wall of separation Clinton imposed upon the Intel community and federal law enforcement. This wall did not allow sharing of intel so they could connect the dots. That was not a failure but an act of sabotage from the Clinton regime. Further it was the beginnings of the PC culture and all the failures that has spawned.

      Corona virus is not a failure of intel nor is it a failure that can logically be pointed at the Trump administration they did almost everything possible to combat this..
      The failure is in human nature and most of all in one group using this as political fodder.

      We can now see the narratives being played out all over.
      Calling TRUMP racist…did not really work.
      Calling Trump a Russian asset…did not work.
      Saying he has failed to manage Covid19…not working.
      Social justice with riots and nonsense …not working
      Pivot back to Covid 19 when Trump says he is going to start rallys again…not going to work.

      Next comes the shrill cry of racist again.

      What else do the DEMOCRATS have in their dirty tricks playbook?
      Will we have our very own Reichstag fire?
      Are we as a country dumb enough to fall for that?
      Some other false flag event?
      More mass shooter events?
      The sky appears to be the limit in operation orange man bad soon to be called tangerine tornado.

      • Majella June 17, 2020 at 3:36 pm #

        Hilarious! benr, I am appreciative of the time & effort you put into the spelling, punctuation and grammar In this post. I only had to read it once to see it as the delusional projection it is.

        • benr June 18, 2020 at 10:14 am #

          Yet you have no refute.
          Interesting that you can’t come up with a relevant response.
          Please pray tell me where I have gone off the rails.

          For someone who pretends to be so intelligent I should think you would come up with something better.

          • Nightowl June 18, 2020 at 3:38 pm #

            Pro tip: Point out the errors in her post and grab the popcorn.

            There are four obvious ones, and five if we want to critique passive constructions and stilted phrasing.

            Another own goal in the making.


          • Majella June 18, 2020 at 8:23 pm #

            There’s nothing TO refute.

            You’re simply sawing on the same old worn out violin of “Democrats worse”.

            I’ve stated quite plainly many times that I have no truck with the DNC or the ‘woke left’. I’m an old-school socialist-bent voter. You can slam the living shit out of the DNC and ascribe any number of nutjob conspiracy theory tropes to them – false-flag, orchestrated mass-shooter events, whatever makes you feel like there’s someone else responsible for your fears.

            And you post this sort of crap:

            “Corona virus is not a failure of intel nor is it a failure that can logically be pointed at the Trump administration they did almost everything possible to combat this.”

            You cannot be serious.

      • Majella June 18, 2020 at 8:27 pm #


        Pro tip: Point out the errors in her post and grab the popcorn.

        There are four obvious ones, and five if we want to critique passive constructions and stilted phrasing.

        Another own goal in the making.


        Hahaha! Rich! Have I been ‘hoist by my own petard’, perhaps?

        I’m surprised you feel compelled to critique MY written language, yet your side-kick can murder it without a peep, while you don’t even bother to edit for your own typos.

        “tweet, tweet, rage, hiss, tweet, tweet, LOL’.”

        • Nightowl June 19, 2020 at 9:02 am #

          I don’t correct my typos, as this is a message board on the Interwebz.

          I correct your typos only when you attack others over typos.

          Because it is funny as fuck!

  66. SoftStarLight June 17, 2020 at 3:02 am #

    This is literally the traditional Left imploding. The apparent meteoric rise of BLM and its complete takeover and shakedown of the political Left doesn’t represent any sort of real Leftist cultural surge at all. Sure BLM has lots of super prog proclivities. But the beating heart of BLM is a strict adherence to ethno-nationalism. This makes BLM deviant from traditional Leftism. That sort of apple pie, modern Leftiness that says that we must create an egalitarian utopia for all workers and non-workers of the world who can join hands and sing kumbaya to the gods of selective science, subjective rationality, and community activism as they dance across the girth of a unified, happy, non-questioning, non-triggering, and non-binary world that has turned its policy making functions over to the Council of the Seven Hundred Genders. But alas! BLM wants to bring us to a place of pre-modern tribalism and racial segregation! And in a rushed arrogant moment the traditional Left sold its soul for it and to it and thus gave up the ghost. So now we have civic nationalism (MAGA, Brexit, etc.) and ethno-nationalism as the primary political expressions of the moment. So far, civic nationalism seems to be failing in America. And it doesn’t look like the focus on race and ethnicity is going anywhere anytime soon. And with opposition to BLM nearly a death sentence already. Well, you get the point. But what’s good for one is good for the other. Doesn’t matter who agrees. Precedent. By embracing ethno-nationalism (and in such a skeevy way too) the Left gave up any “moral argument” they ever tried to spin in regards to said nationalism.

    • BackRowHeckler June 17, 2020 at 3:24 am #

      Good points

      NYPost/Fox News video of 31 yo ‘Community Member’ with 101 prior arrests laying out 92 year old white woman on a sidewalk in Manhattan with a punch to the head, and in Texas a gang of joggers beating a white man nearly to death outside a convenience store while shouting “Black Lives Matter” (two examples out of many) shows there is something beyond the usual ghetto criminality going on here .. the violence against us is political and more deadly.


      • elysianfield June 17, 2020 at 9:24 am #

        “the violence against us is political and more deadly.”

        …And where be your Model 28?

      • SoftStarLight June 17, 2020 at 11:47 am #

        Well the riots and the looting have actually been a success for them. They are achieving broad power simply by using fists. Nothing can or will stop them unless they would meet a wall of resistance.

        • benr June 17, 2020 at 12:02 pm #

          Well I just watched a video where one white kid was packing heat and when he was set upon by three masked thugs with skateboards and knives he whipped out his trusty concealed carry and four shots later one of the fools was crumpled in a bleeding heap.
          The one that smacked him in the head with a skateboard and pulled a knife that had been chasing him screaming we are going to kill you.

          Whoops guess that did not play out well for the dressed in black zeros.
          New Mexico is not the place for Antifa to mess around.

          • SoftStarLight June 17, 2020 at 2:03 pm #

            Most of the country actually is probably not the place for Antifa. But they are seemingly popular in the big urban areas that control the rest of the country.

      • benr June 17, 2020 at 3:32 pm #

        Actually that POS did not punch her he shoved her but at 92 and on a walker it had the same effect.
        That animal should get the beating of his racist ass life ANYONE who picks on kids and elderly people are the absolute worst of the worst.

        • Majella June 17, 2020 at 3:37 pm #

          Where’s all that grammar gone?

          • benr June 18, 2020 at 10:07 am #

            Drive by post.
            Not relevant to putting in time and thought.

          • Majella June 18, 2020 at 9:11 pm #

            Drive by post.
            Not relevant to putting in time and thought.”

            Huh? I do hope Tweets will stoop to correcting this one, It’s a doozy.

          • Nightowl June 19, 2020 at 11:11 am #

            I only correct you, Green Algae, and Q, because no one else is sad enough to go after others in this way.

            And because it is fucking hilarious that you would do so when you suck so bad.

          • GreenAlba June 20, 2020 at 11:04 am #

            You took it upon yourself to offer ‘editing advice’ to Kakadu when he is not in the habit of offering it to you.

            I only correct you once in a blue moon because of your egotistical ‘blue-chip editor’ bloviating.

            Typos I would never comment on anyway, unless they provide humour. But when someone writes ‘millenial’ repeatedly, I have to assume that blue-chip editors are not what they were, especially since it is not your only regular spelling faux pas.

          • GreenAlba June 20, 2020 at 11:06 am #

            And you had the lack of insight to correct someone’s ‘style’ not long ago, despite coming up with ‘these sorts of outbursts’ yourself.

            Jeez, the blue-chip elegance.

    • Kakadu Man June 17, 2020 at 4:03 am #

      This is literally the traditional Left imploding.

      Despite a whole lot of crazy, nutty right-wing, and out-and-out whitey stuff, in your post SSL, there is a very real way in which I agree with you.

      The old-fashioned left is now nowhere interesting … a few months ago it was with the vanilla-white goodness of the Bernie Bros, and even (slightly less white) with AOC in New York. Nothing wrong with that, but it has been totally and utterly nuked – I agree.

      I guess the interesting question about all this, is how does it play out politically? As you know, I think Trump should be nailed by the ears to a bumper-bar and then dragged over broken glass, but my views on this don’t matter.

      What is Trumpism, and where is it going? Is Trump really going to get 82,000 in Tulsa this weekend? Really? I expect he will. So the question is: do the pandemic, the economic cratering, and now the BLM movement, play well for Trump to get his 38% to 52% – or not?

      I don’t know the answer, but if I were a hard-nosed and sharp-eyed political operative in the DNC (trying to win an election by babysitting a comatose Biden) then I think I would be pretty worried.

      All this shit can fly any which way, and who knows which way?

      • K-Dog June 17, 2020 at 5:37 am #

        (slightly less white) with AOC

        Yes, she has the effect of passing as white, because she is. She adopts the common culture.

        When I was young I worked in a hotel as a bellhop in Seattle, the Olympic. I worked with Geno who was as black as the coffee I drink and I don’t take any sugar or cream. Espresso black. He made a gold ear-ring look really good. Jeno was excited because Alex Haley was coming to town and I was excited because Alex Haley was coming to town. I had read his book.

        Alex showed up and was a very easy going affable man. He talked to Geno and I for a while. It was a normal conversation, unremarkable except for how pleasant it was. It was about midnight at the end of the day and the only place Alex H. was going was up to bed. Later I had the thought, how could that guy write roots, he isn’t even black. He has freckles doesn’t have an accent and uses the same words I do.

        Geno would have been the more fitting author. Asphalt black and shiny, as bald as an 8 ball on a pool table. With his gold on he looked like someone who had been guarding King Tuts tomb for a few thousand years. Alex was too much ordinary American to be the book’s author.

        Which of course is ridiculous because it is his story.

        • Kakadu Man June 17, 2020 at 6:07 am #

          Nice story, K-Dog.

          • K-Dog June 17, 2020 at 2:03 pm #

            True stories generally work out that way. Thanks.

        • Q. Shtik June 17, 2020 at 1:12 pm #

          I worked with Geno
          Jeno was excited because – K-Dog


          Let’s get this straight, was it Geno or Jeno?

          Also “He talked to Geno and I for a while” should be me, not I.

          Let’s hope Jim doesn’t spot my last remark or ya’ll can kiss my ass goodbye.

          • K-Dog June 17, 2020 at 2:11 pm #

            Christ on a crutch. You know how phonetic I am but thanks for finding the typo.


            how could that guy write roots, he isn’t even black.

            Roots should have been capitalized.

            So what was the right spelling?


          • Q. Shtik June 17, 2020 at 3:20 pm #

            how could that guy write roots, he isn’t even black. He has freckles doesn’t have an accent and uses the same words I do. – K-Dog


            I Googled Haley’s pic and he certainly looks black to me… perhaps 70% black 30% white mixed race.

            As to “Christ on a crutch. You know how phonetic I am” you are a professional blogger and you’re running for President so I hold you to a higher standard. P.S. the small r in roots slipped past my critical eye. Don’t let it happen again.

            BTW, I am reading a book of 5 (short) stories by Thomas Mann. It’s one of my 100 Greatest Books collection produced by the Franklin Library (leather bound, gold leaf edges, etc.) and I spotted a typo. I’ve read about 80 of those hundred books and I believe this is the first error I noticed.

            They wrote quiet instead of quite. I will write to them so they can fix it for any possible reprints.

      • akmofo June 17, 2020 at 6:19 am #

        Gargoyle, I’ll tell you how it ends. It ends very badly for you loser idiots. Anyone ever identified as a commie foreign agent will be targeted hunted and killed. It will be very brutal and very comprehensive. There are electronic traces for everything and everyone. These will be accessed. There will be no escape and no mercy.

        You commie Jihadi Satanists will know the anger and righteous fury of God.

        • K-Dog June 17, 2020 at 12:59 pm #

          Not me, I’ve been investigated and vetted already.


          • K-Dog June 17, 2020 at 2:20 pm #

            And thankfully though understandably you can’t agree that it is a good thing, Israel is not part of the five eyes so you take on airs akmofo, promising what you can’t deliver. If Zion were a member things would be too extreme and half the planet would get smoked leaving empty winds to whistle across the barren dirt plains of the other half. Best we agree to disagree and leave it at that.

          • akmofo June 17, 2020 at 2:55 pm #

            I’m glad you feel safe. I wouldn’t entertain hearing you were coerced into your Satanic deviancy. Neither would them executioners, btw.

        • Kakadu Man June 17, 2020 at 2:16 pm #

          Nah … I live in the Lucky Country … where the Left enjoys the centre and not the fringe … all of us are hippie commies, and we frolic with pink unicorns, drinking free beer on the sunny uplands of nirvana …

          We don’t huddle in some Tel Aviv concrete box, wondering which bunch of crazy towel-heads is going to nuke us and push us into the Med.

          • benr June 17, 2020 at 3:34 pm #

            You should add not yet.
            Your time is in fact coming.
            Being a leftist turd won’t save you from what is coming.

          • Majella June 17, 2020 at 3:42 pm #

            Hilarious benr.

        • Majella June 17, 2020 at 3:40 pm #

          I thought the Vatican-Commie-Nazi-Fascists ran all the Intel systems. Do you have your own?

          • akmofo June 17, 2020 at 4:48 pm #

            They do, Jelly.

            What’s important is that we all know that database exists. Access to it is a trivial matter and really a matter of will.

      • SoftStarLight June 17, 2020 at 11:53 am #

        I guess no matter where you sit it does seem like really everything is for grabs and up in the air. IMO Trump is not demonstrating leadership. His biggest challenge was actually to beat back BLM whether he likes it or not. That is if he really is a civic nationalist. But since even the establishment Left is getting down with the new racism and Trump being someone who has to be popular. Well I think he is making a lot of mistakes with his own base to garner popularity with other factions. Who knows if in the end it will work. The voting process itself is so ridden with fraud. And perhaps some new viral video with an incident of some kind will come out today and change world history again. Who really knows.

        • K-Dog June 17, 2020 at 2:28 pm #

          IMO Trump is not demonstrating leadership.

          I have it on good authority that this is not an opinion but an actual fact. A documented fact.


          Who really knows.

          You do cousin.

          The new viral video. Lights have been dimmed and figures dressed in black from head to toe scamper about the stage getting all ready for the next scene of this American play.

          The crowd waits in anticipation. Backstage actors rehearse their lines.

  67. Nightowl June 17, 2020 at 3:04 am #

    So now the AP is considering capitalizing “black.”

    As I always say, you could not make this shit up.


    My wife is German and always used to say that most Americans she met seemed to be in a state of arrested development, like “kidults” — and that disagreements were often dealt with through emotional outbursts rather than logic or a willingness to engage based on facts.

    I generally agreed, but I now have a new appreciation for this insight.

    • Soul Forensics June 17, 2020 at 4:25 am #

      In the article, they mention that “African-American” only got replaced because some blacks originated outside of Africa. But it was always a ridiculous tag.

      I would never dream of calling myself an Irish-Finnish-Canadian, and would be mystified if anyone referred to me as such. Also, as a 2nd generation transplant, I’ve been here longer than most of the original Ghanaians in the U.S. who couldn’t care less about Nancy Pelosi’s fetching scarf.

      • K-Dog June 17, 2020 at 4:57 am #

        Protestant missionaries made the scarf thing a thing in the 19 fifties sixties and seventies. Visiting African pastors to the burbs always had one. There was an effort by affluent white protestants to get black people in touch with their ‘roots’ being as the white man had savaged their culture and all that. Insidious help since black people can do just fine finding their own roots and don’t need help; but there are worse things.

      • Q. Shtik June 17, 2020 at 12:55 pm #

        I would never dream of calling myself an Irish-Finnish-Canadian – Soul F


        Ah Hah! So you’re an Irish-Finnish-Canadian. Well, that explains a lot. 🙂

  68. Pucker June 17, 2020 at 6:58 am #

    Peter Zeihan doesn’t talk about the deranged, lunatic, totalitarian, ignorant mob disconnected from Western history and culture that thinks that it’s the target of “genocide” by white people.

    Peter Zeihan


  69. akmofo June 17, 2020 at 8:18 am #

    Eurabia at War?

    No collaboration. No goals. Certainly no agreed goals. No budget. No intelligence gathering, due to Political Correctness. To even track conversations of Jihadistanis who are also “citizens of the state” is inconceivable.

    Eurabia sits and awaits the next attacks to come. Waiting for the new Khalif to arrive, Abd al-Rahman — the 4th. Many Eurabians are publicly calling for such in mass demonstrations in every major Eurabian city year after year.

    Just look. The Danish in this video, riding their bicycles, as though the Jihadistani mass demonstration, here at their home, is not happening and does not at all concern them. They, the Danish, are acting as best behaved guests, where in effect the Jihadistanis are the home owners.


  70. BackRowHeckler June 17, 2020 at 8:45 am #

    And the Danes, always cognizant of their ‘Carbon Emissions’ skitter by this mob on their bicycles.

    The Danes were Vikings once ahahaha.

    That video was from a few years back … such a march in 2020 would require Danich citizens to prostrate themselves before the rabble and crawl on their bellies like worms, to show pertinence …


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    • akmofo June 17, 2020 at 9:01 am #

      They wanted to show the remaining Holocaust surviving Jews in Israel as “Nazis” for defending themselves against Jihadistanis. That was the Vatican mafia MSM propaganda narrative for decades and decades and decades. Now it’s their kuffar necks on the line.

      God has a sense of humor, karma does not.

  71. JohnAZ June 17, 2020 at 9:18 am #


    The fires caused by PG&E are a failure of government and capitalism to keep public safety as priority one. Putting wires above ground in a mature forest is insanity. It may have cost the company’s customers more money to bury the wires, but their homes would still be there. I will guarantee you that the first group to bitch about rising rates to bury lines would have been the aforementioned customers. They should be suing themselves.

    Do we learn from mistakes? We shall see. The 84 counts are going to bankrupt PG&E, probably which means more cutting.

    BTW, the drought in the SW US is just the latest is a train of many droughts. I believe that AGW is one of a cascade of factors that affects the climate, but not the only one. We know very little about the big picture and should be very cautious about messing with it.

    Unfortunately, we can do little about AGW, about as much as sunspots and the coronavirus. Nature has very brutal methods of correcting imbalances on Earth.

    Think about this. What species or group of species benefits from high temperatures and drought and elevated hydrocarbons? They may take our place.

    • Billy Hill June 17, 2020 at 9:53 am #

      Underground high-voltage transmission is very expensive. It used to be a factor of 8 or 10 to 1 versus overhead — I have not had any contact with such projects recently. Engineers optimize power systems and this includes economic optimization.

      Enlarging the rights-of-way or systematic vegetation removal are valid options. Unfortunately equipment failure at end of life is not always predictable and Murphy’s Law governs.

      • JohnAZ June 17, 2020 at 12:11 pm #

        You are right on the capitalistic optimization, however, this is government also not protecting folks from the risks of corporate behavior. California’s wet dry fire hazard has been around for generations. What is new is the invasion of dangerous forest lands by people trying to get the rural lifestyle. California should have made code for new developments underground utilities. If people want to live in these areas, they must pay the premium for public safety. Ring studies on redwood trees have shown wet dry cycles for thousands of years. When are people going to respect the nature of the environment? IMHO, never, until they are burned out. Lawsuits are a fiasco.

        • Billy Hill June 17, 2020 at 4:11 pm #

          My 8 to 10 times was based on 115kV. Just for grins I searched 230kV and xcel energy provided the following:

          $1 million per mile
          An underground 230 kV line costs 10 to 15 times the cost of an overhead line due to time, materials, processes, the need to include transition substations and the use of specialized labor. The proposed overhead double circuit 230 kV line would cost $1 million per mile.

          I wonder if they included vegetation control savings.

          Underground distribution is fairly standard in new single-family subdivision construction since the developer can fold it into the cost of each lot. The voltages are much lower (15kV;25kV).

    • akmofo June 17, 2020 at 9:56 am #

      JAZ, I’m much more cynical than you. Nothing is by accident. The company had multiple complaints about sparks and potential fires, but there was an agenda to fulfill. They figured they could get away with it. Why not, everyone else has.

      • JohnAZ June 17, 2020 at 12:14 pm #

        I disagree with you. I think the cynicism is a tie. Remember that corporate behavior is partially set by customers and share holders. Ignorant or just plain stupid people especially politicians are the major source of blame for most of the catastrophes that we continuously suffer.

        • akmofo June 17, 2020 at 12:37 pm #

          When they want something done they are very resourceful and crafty in getting it done. When they don’t want something done, they feign incompetence ignorance stupidity etc. I don’t buy any of it. Them forests were set on fire deliberately. Never ever give them the benefit of the doubt or allow them any plausible deniability. You only encourage their malicious humor and satanism.

    • BackRowHeckler June 17, 2020 at 10:17 am #

      The upshot of the PG&E debacle is that is that the progressive citizens of Silicon Valley and San Francisco will have unreliable, inconsistent and super expensive electricity, resulting in brownouts, blackouts … living in darkness and the onset of a more primitive way of life. Haha tough sh#t for them.


      • JohnAZ June 17, 2020 at 12:16 pm #

        As I said, if they want quality and safe utilities, they have to pay for it.

        Everywhere I look, stupidification prevails. Government is just an amplifier.

  72. elysianfield June 17, 2020 at 9:22 am #

    Joe Biden? This ‘splains everything;


    • akmofo June 17, 2020 at 10:55 am #

      A swarm of French police arrest an unarmed and nonviolent female medical worker protesting impossible working conditions. But when it comes to doing anything about violent insurrectionists looting throwing rocks overturning and smashing cars and burning everything in sight, them same police just retreat and run away, on the rare occasion when they even show up.

      Ely, is that the playbook for policing? Constantly harass and fine the innocent and generally law abiding and allow the criminals do as they will. You can tell us the truth now, as if we don’t already know.

      • SoftStarLight June 17, 2020 at 11:37 am #

        At least three systems of justice have been running concurrently for a very long time proving that there has never been any such thing as one system and one law for the people and liberty and justice for all. I have seen NOWHERE anything mentioned whatsoever about any HATE CRIME committed by the hoodrat socking a 92 year old white women in the head in NYC. And it WILL NEVER be mentioned. YET! As soon as the militia man in NM protected his life from being taken by shooting an Antifa goon they it was reported everywhere that the incident was being investigated for POTENTIAL HATE CRIMES against the PROTESTORS who on video literally threatened to kill the man.

        • BackRowHeckler June 17, 2020 at 11:57 am #

          The hoodrat who laid out the 92 yo woman in the Bronx, splitting her head open … was released on a promise to appear bench warrant, despite having 3 open warrants for his arrest, and 103 prior arrests?


          • SoftStarLight June 17, 2020 at 2:02 pm #

            Are you kidding? I didn’t hear that! However, I’m not in the slightest surprised.

          • BackRowHeckler June 17, 2020 at 4:10 pm #

            Yeah we get the NYC radio stations up here, SSL. CBS is reporting it.

        • akmofo June 17, 2020 at 12:05 pm #

          We are under commie agents foreign occupation. “Our media” is not ours, and the same goes really for any and all the institutions that we’d like to regard as ours. I’ve been saying this for years.

          • SoftStarLight June 17, 2020 at 2:02 pm #

            I believe you.

          • Kakadu Man June 17, 2020 at 2:31 pm #

            The media has never been “yours” … it used to be William Randolph Hearst, and now it’s Rupert Murdoch.

          • capt spaulding June 18, 2020 at 8:34 am #

            Yeah, and he was born in a foreign country, just like Obama!