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     You know, of course, that the CIA’s job is to detect sinister doings in other countries, especially as they might affect our own country. Looks like they missed something lately in the spook-filled space between Iran and Israel. Do you suppose they’re too busy running Facebook? And their domestic companion, the FBI, has been working overtime for years now, between their mighty labors concocting RussiaGate and the current program to root out election deniers and other seditious riffraff — while millions of sketchy mutts from here, there, and everywhere in the world scuttle over our border with Mexico and decant across our fruited plains — with assistance, you understand, from our own border officials — and, yet, no questions asked. Here’s a free phone and an auto-refilling debit card. Have a nice day in Skokie, Plattsburgh, or wherever! And don’t forget to send in your court appearance forms by the 2030 deadline!

     So, it came as a big surprise when southern Israel was overrun by Hamas dudes in tricked-out pickup trucks and para-gliders on Saturday, who carried home hundreds of nubile young women to have sport with, after slaughtering hundreds more people of all ages, like rampaging bronze age Philistines. That fresh enormity is, shall we say, quite a ways from resolution at this time. I’ll tell you what will be an even bigger surprise, though: when some organized unit of those aforesaid mutts of unknown origin who snuck across our border sets off something like a dirty bomb in New York, Los Angeles, or Washington DC. Or takes over a nuclear power station. Or… well, I wouldn’t want to put any ideas in a bad actor’s head. But you get the picture, I’m sure.

     So, we’re in something that smells like uncharted territory this autumn Monday, and events are galloping faster than anyone can process. The scene looks a little bit like World War Three. At least any child of twelve could game it out that way in three easy steps. Say, the chief mullah in Teheran issues some crude remark about how Israel had it coming, yadda yadda … and the IDF forthwith fires a cruise missile up his qabaa… and next thing you know, so many mushroom clouds rise over the Levant that it looks like a shitake farm.

     All this while the USA struggles to restore its political mental health after years of domestic abuse at the hands of our own government. A big question here is what kind of correction will it require to straighten out that abusive government… or can anything at all avail before having to shred the whole goshdarn operation and start over? Quien sabe? (As they say in Plattsburgh nowadays.)

     I’m confident that Congress will sort out this new Speaker business in short order, now that the world appears to light up. But what of its current projects? For instance, the inquiry into the darkish business ventures of the Biden Family, Inc., and what to do about it? That look-see is tending toward a picture that shows an appalling connection between the Bidens’ lustful chasing of global main chances and the horrifying demolition of Ukraine currently ongoing. If it’s not already obvious to a majority of USA adults that “Joe Biden,” the cats-paw in the White House, must go, it will be in a matter of weeks as the bank records step into the spotlight and speak for themselves.

     Are you ready for President Kamala and government-by-word-salad? E.g.: “It’s very important, as you’ve heard from so many incredible leaders, for us at every moment in time, and certainly this one, to seize the moment of time in which we exist, in our present, and be able to contextualize it, understand where we exist in history and in the moment as it relates not only to the past but the future,” she said. Doctoral dissertations will be penned explicating that mouthful for years to come (where and whenever those years might be located on time’s mystifying spectrum).

    As for Congress and its grim duties, there is also the matter of the current laughable budget resolution running out again just before Thanksgiving. Work to do! The USA is in such a desperate debt and bond issuance dilemma that it’s like a trapped wild animal faced with having to chew off its own leg to escape death. And the cause of that dilemma is our legislature’s failure to control the nation’s spending. As America’s Venerable Bede, Sen. Everett Dirksen (d. 1969) used to say: “A billion here, a billion there, pretty soon you’re talking about real money.” Well, that game is drawing to a close. Reality is finally asserting its rugged old self to say that our country is as broke as broke can be and there has to be a painful adjustment. It will be presented as a Hobson’s choice: you can have no money… or you can have plenty of money that’s worthless. What’s it gonna be?

      I’d guess that the new Speaker will have to be Mr. Jordan of Ohio, because at this time Congress badly needs to be led by someone who at least appears to be muscular and confident. One has to wonder, though, that even muscles and confidence might not be enough in the current situation — that moment of time in which we exist, as the Veep put it so well. And yet, so many things are happening at once that it feels like someone up there is monkeying with time itself. Or perhaps a giant blob has gummed up its wheels. But, really, I must ask: are you not a little tired of being a country that doesn’t know what it’s doing?


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1,254 Responses to “Here We Go Loop-de-Loop”

  1. Ishabaka October 9, 2023 at 9:48 am #

    Please explain to me how Israel went soft as linguini? I always thought they were the toughest fighters on earth. 260 killed at a rave near the border with Gaza, full of young men and women – and not a single guard or firearm? Three guys with .22 rifles could have ended the Hamas paraglider troops before they landed?

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 9, 2023 at 9:56 am #

      Reality is not always what we are indoctrinated with.

    • Ron Anselmo October 9, 2023 at 9:59 am #

      Yes Ishy – not the least bit al dente. Even the young men at the rave – early 20’s probably, the peak of masculinity – all running like scared children, not even a glance back for their women. Heaven help their women. Pathetic, no matter the culture. Male instinct is gone – extinct.

      • thirdcoastlegend October 9, 2023 at 10:09 am #

        This is the correct answer.

        The reality is that the collective West is riven with softness and incompetence at all levels.

        • justanotherguy October 9, 2023 at 10:28 am #

          most vacksed country on earth – not connection at all – jus’ sayin’

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 9, 2023 at 10:15 am #

        Actually, I had thought of that as a nickname; Alan Dente, or Al for short.

        • Disaffected October 9, 2023 at 10:42 am #

          Al Dente? I was just wondering how that old boy was doing. Married some good looking chick named Linguine last I heard and they were busy raising a whole brood of young’ns. Great bloodlines.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 9, 2023 at 1:21 pm #

            Life’s too short for deathly-serious nicknames, at least sometimes.

      • draupnir October 9, 2023 at 10:23 am #

        The Koran recommends that young women who are captured alive be taken as slaves so that good sons and daughters of the Prophet may be bred upon them.

        • Ron Anselmo October 9, 2023 at 10:31 am #

          Conversely, if you don’t provide for, protect, and take care of your women, your lineage will be a short one.

          • draupnir October 9, 2023 at 10:40 am #

            Such women must, of course be provided for.

          • Ron Anselmo October 9, 2023 at 12:05 pm #

            Protecting and caretaking, are providing for, so yes. Strong men understand this and raise strong sons to do the same. Long live their lineage.

          • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

            Agree. But never allowed to vote.

          • megabeth October 9, 2023 at 2:17 pm #

            Jarek: tie the franchise to real property, not sex.

          • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 3:35 pm #

            Both are important, but change owning property to simple financial solvency so
            men who want to vote don’t have to buy property when they are interested in doing so.

            Add to that the test of knowledge of our history, heritage, and current events. Add to that a record of service and loyalty.

            The higher you want to go, the steeper the requirements. Local, state, and federal.

        • jgalt October 10, 2023 at 11:05 am #

          The entire Quran is full of nothing but thieving, murder, enslavement, and constant war against all non-believers in the sick islamic ideology. Their allegiance is to Allah and the dictates of the Quran, not to any Western country or its leaders, and will ever remain so long as they adhere to the dictates. To do other wise is apostasy which brings a death sentence, same as leaving islam to become a Christian or any other religion. The clear and present danger we face is from the eight million, mostly military aged men, increasing daily thanks to the Biden invite, and the internal threat of Quran adherents.

          • badberries October 12, 2023 at 10:17 am #

            Well put jgalt!

            Who could resist the promises made in the Quran? that in the afterlife, Martyrs will receive 72 virgins all with the face of the Martyrs mother. Pretty tempting huh? (Yikes!)

            It’s a sick world.

            Did you know that boys can become girls now and have babies and be mommies?
            I’ve already booked my flight to the next iteration.

      • buckeyeman October 9, 2023 at 10:46 am #

        Considering what “women” have become, I don’t find it surprising that the young “men” at this demonic “peace” concert would not waste a microsecond of their time to glance back.

        • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

          “… a music, peace & dance event.”

          The irony is thick here, so very thick.

          Apparently Hamas is well armed with US weaponry abandoned in Afghanistan, via the Iran ratline. I have also read tons of NATO weaponry is available on the dark web from Ukraine, not even uncrated, for pennies on the dollar.

          • PeteAtomic October 9, 2023 at 6:08 pm #

            I’m sure the Chinese are feeling sufficiently cowed & impressed by the developments you cite there, BRH.

            Isn’t that the newest explanation/validation for US involvement in the Ukraine??

      • Islander October 9, 2023 at 10:52 am #

        Did you see the get-ups that some of those “men” were wearing?

        Obvious these young-‘uns had no idea that they were inches away from the Gaza Fence.

        • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 11:05 am #

          They weren’t all Israelis.

      • WadeWaters October 9, 2023 at 12:19 pm #

        “Testosterone? We don’t need no stinking’ testosterone!”

      • AZJJ October 10, 2023 at 10:47 am #

        They all took the Covid death-jabs… probably FUBAR’d their hormones, atrophied their testicles… so as to turn them into wimps while their arteries and brain-pans clog with fibrous clots…

        THAT is Israel’s real Armageddon…

      • Ishabaka October 10, 2023 at 5:58 pm #

        Well – I saw two Israelis with the “Never again” spirit in videos. First, the guy who held off Hamas armed only with a pistol as 8 of his family escaped, then died in a hail of bullets. Second – kibbutz dog who ran at Hamas, took a hit from an AK and kept coming,and it took a second hit to stop it. The last fighting Israelis?

      • hortonz October 12, 2023 at 11:32 am #

        Watching events unfold in the Middle East was terrifying enough. Knowing that the West, like Israel herself, was on its’ own and couldn’t rely on the support of the rest of the world, was even more terrifying. But watching the conflict play out in real time here in the once-peaceful Great White North was in violent demonstrations against Israel by pro-Palestinian supporters was enough to drive anyone to the insane asylum. Then came the news that inflation could hit double-digits by Christmas. Is it too late to build a bomb shelter?

    • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 10:01 am #

      It is their Pearl Harbor
      Their 9-11

      It’s all right there.

      • Ron Anselmo October 9, 2023 at 10:09 am #

        Exactly – using the same script – literally.

        How stupid do they think we are?

        Don’t answer that.

        • hmuller October 9, 2023 at 10:47 am #

          I spent 20 years in US Intell both human and electronic. I understand how Hamas would compartmentalize their plans on a need to know basis.

          Still, I can hardly believe that with all the informants Mossad and Shin Beth had in Gaza, all the communications intercept, all the airborne imagery – Israel was taken by surprise. 5000 Hamas killers knew it was game time, but not one Israeli knew anything. Really?!

          • Vegan Shark October 9, 2023 at 12:07 pm #

            Ah, but the Mossad had an ace up its sleeve too. A faux rave within spitting distance of the Gaza border. Crack special operations forces, disguised as feathered hipsters soaking their brains in mind-altering drugs of such variety some haven’t been named yet.

            They were just waiting for the signal to be given from Tel Aviv after which they would retrieve their weapons from the tents, breach the pathetic border and add assault to taste.

            Was that brilliant or what? Who but HIQ Israelis could have pasted it in their dream book? Alas, the Palestinians muffed their entrance and came in early, like the horn player in an orchestra blatting out a forte note while the violins are still sighing a peaceful lament.

            Slip sliding away …

          • Rowdypiglet October 9, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

            From the Wall Street Journal in April, as noted this morning on the Coffee and Covid blog:

            “General Esmail Qaani, who leads the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ elite Quds Force, has held a series of clandestine meetings with militant leaders across the region. The Quds Force chief was in Lebanon last week, where he met with Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh and his deputy Saleh al-Arouri (and others) at the Iranian embassy in Beirut.
            Around the same time, militants in southern Lebanon fired a barrage of rockets at Israel, the largest such attack since the 2006 war between Hezbollah and Israel.
            Israel has cause for concern. Gen. Qaani’s effort to unite Tehran’s allies is a sharp escalation in the undeclared war between Iran and Israel after Israel carried out hundreds of attacks targeting Iran and its proxies across the Middle East.
            Among Tehran’s chief objectives is to prevent its neighbors from establishing diplomatic ties with Israel.”

            It was also pointed out how similar this was to 9/11, where the FBI chose to ignore citizen tips and other information that was provided to them. So – cui bono?

          • Paula D October 9, 2023 at 1:03 pm #

            The answer to your question will soon be obvious, Rowdy, but right now, I can’t fathom it.

            But on 9-11 I had no idea that the destruction of Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya and Iran was in the plans.

            It takes a while to see what they’re up to.

          • par4 October 9, 2023 at 1:58 pm #

            Yes, they have been lost since the Jeffrey Epstein spy ring went down.

        • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 11:40 am #

          Conservation of time and energy via operant conditioning. If they were taught to salivate at the tone of a bell, just associate a buzzer with the bell and you’ll have the same response. No need to start from scratch.

        • Hated American October 9, 2023 at 12:11 pm #

          Yes, this has all the appearance of an orchestrated event to justify/provoke WW3. And, right on cue, the day after Blinken starts announcing that …gasp…Americans have been killed, etc. I guess I can’t blame them, it’s worked like a charm for hundreds of years.

      • Amman October 9, 2023 at 4:54 pm #

        Some see the 9-11 Event. Others see the Tet Offensive.

        • Socrates-Detroit October 10, 2023 at 11:14 am #

          I see both.

          And I see a small possibility of a replay of Oct 1973, when the Arabs embargoed oil sales to the US. and west.

        • Socrates-Detroit October 10, 2023 at 1:14 pm #

          … also, if you look closely, you can see the Warsaw Uprising.

          • Amman October 11, 2023 at 8:08 am #

            Warsaw? interesting but not too familiar with Lech Walesa, the Pope and Reagan actions from those days.

          • Amman October 11, 2023 at 9:28 am #

            Oh Wow, got it now.

    • John K October 9, 2023 at 10:05 am #

      Very fishy indeed. Quoting another comment I saw recently:

      “The world’s premier intelligence agency misses the aggregation of 5,000 rockets and staging of an invasion force? Gimme a break.”

      • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 10:11 am #

        Even the open border of the U.S. Southwest is equipped with cameras and sensors and detection devices.
        IR scopes.
        They can see miles past the border.

        Software that can detect and distinguish humans from desert hares.
        Much more sophisticated than your doorbell camera that can tell you if your porch visitor is a chipmunk or the Amazon driver.
        Then we have drones, satellites and helicopters.
        But Israel has none of that?

        Let’s not forget their greatest asset: humint
        Human intel.

        Apparently they had no idea what their known adversaries were up to.
        But yesterday they sussed it all out
        Iran

        • justanotherguy October 9, 2023 at 10:57 am #

          falsie flaggie?

          whip snap toward managed despair, soon will snap to managed hope.

          lots of waking up to do.

        • Islander October 9, 2023 at 10:59 am #

          And a lot of this software is MII—Made in Israel.

          Cou/d “someone” be trying to get rid of Netty?

          Or, does this work in his favor?

          Questions, questions . . .

          remember how confused most people were at the beginning of the SMO?

          Since Feb. 2022, a lot of t hings have changes and a lot of things have become clearer.

          One of them seems to be that NATO now looks a lot like General Nimrod Aloni being hustled away from home in his boxer shorts.

          • Disaffected October 9, 2023 at 11:10 am #

            LOL! I thought you were joking about his name yesterday. An actual General named Nimrod. Couldn’t be more fitting!

          • Disaffected October 9, 2023 at 11:12 am #

            Wikipedia says that his abduction has not yet been confirmed by IDF, however. “Fog of war” and all that BS.

          • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 1:41 pm #

            N?mrod was a biblical/talmudic king with a conflicting history.
            Some associate him with rebelliousness

          • Islander October 9, 2023 at 9:06 pm #

            Disaffected: I know. I couldn’t believe when I first heard it.

            Nimrod sounds like some kind of joke.

            And Aloni sounds like a Star Trek figure.

            It gives you an insight into how Zionists “think.”

      • IowaBlackHawk October 9, 2023 at 10:35 am #

        Not a joke. Corn Pop and and Netanyahu are bad dudes.

        • hmuller October 9, 2023 at 10:49 am #

          Watch Joe threaten to kick Hamas out of the swimming pool.

          • Disaffected October 9, 2023 at 11:08 am #

            LOL! With that same chain, no doubt. He’s one bad mofo!

    • neurodoc October 9, 2023 at 10:14 am #

      Isha: In my younger years, as a contractor with the US Army Medical Command, I had the good fortune to be able to spend 2 weeks in an Israeli Anti-Terrorism Training Program. The Israeli commandos and the regular soldiers were incredibly well trained, super organized, and very tough and effective fighters. Something is wrong with the picture currently in Israel. I’m hearing that the word was given to military to stand down. But from who?

      • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 10:21 am #

        The security there is unparalleled.
        Yet a large music, dance, and peace event was totally without security.

        Peace revelers.
        Sounds expendable

        • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2023 at 11:16 am #

          “… a music, peace & dance event.”

          The irony is thick here, so very thick.

          Apparently Hamas is well armed with US weaponry abandoned in Afghanistan, via the Iran ratline. I have also read tons of NATO weaponry is available on the dark web from Ukraine, not even uncrated, for pennies on the dollar.

          • Ron Anselmo October 9, 2023 at 11:24 am #

            BRH – I’d like my own RPG. I have a few dollars saved up, and I think they fall under 2A. Do you have any contact info?

          • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2023 at 11:37 am #

            Nah, I’m a ‘Fud’ RA. Colts, Winchesters & Marlins is the limit of my weaponry sophistication.

          • elysianfield October 9, 2023 at 11:59 am #

            Ron,
            You can legally purchase an RPG…it is considered a Destructive Device, and the permit system is painful. as are the costs of the weapon and charge.

            They have been available for decades, if you want to jump through the hoops….

          • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2023 at 12:28 pm #

            Hey E, Wildey Moore passed away. He had that little shop up in Winchester where he made his Wildey pistol; Charles Bronson used one in all his Die Hard movies.

          • Paula D October 9, 2023 at 1:07 pm #

            What are the logistics of the “Iran ratline”?

          • elysianfield October 11, 2023 at 4:50 pm #

            BRH,
            I once may have owned a Widley…definitely owned an Auto Mag, it’s doppelganger. They are both of little practicality, heavy, unwieldy, and not necessarily pleasant to shoot, or carry.

        • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 11:43 am #

          Looks like some people are more chosen than others…..

        • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 1:07 pm #

          Like the folks partying on top of a sky scraper to greet their alien gods. The aliens blasted them.

          • tuco22 October 9, 2023 at 1:35 pm #

            I always think of that scene when I consider the voting public.

      • Ron Anselmo October 9, 2023 at 10:23 am #

        Dick Cheney?

        • Disaffected October 9, 2023 at 10:24 am #

          The dark master!

          • GreenAlba October 9, 2023 at 10:42 am #

            Talking of dark masters, this isn’t Cheney, but it’s definitely intriguing.

            diannemarshallreport.com/israels-most-intriguing-war-photo/

          • Disaffected October 9, 2023 at 10:47 am #

            That was AMAZING, GA!

          • justanotherguy October 9, 2023 at 11:10 am #

            GA, has that been part of the widespread PR campaign? if so, W____T____F?

          • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 11:10 am #

            It won’t load any pictures for me.

          • GreenAlba October 9, 2023 at 11:12 am #

            Don’t know, justanotherguy. Someone posted the link on a news site I was listening to – I don’t know any more about it than that.

          • Paula D October 9, 2023 at 11:16 am #

            Wow!

          • Billy Hill October 9, 2023 at 11:27 am #

            GA: Entertaining re-construction to make a point. Possibly fanciful, possibly not. If not, one hypothesis is the Israeli leadership are mid-level managers doing the bidding whether consciously or unconsciously of others. This analysis has been floated by Joseph Farrell regarding 9-11. When the towers came down, Farrell, watching on TV, realized there was a third force at work; just the planes flying into the towers were sufficient motive for the neocon program facilitated by the US “intelligence failure.” Bush’s hurried departure to Offutt air base was intended to exert direct presidential authority over the nuclear deterrent given that there were fears a Third Force had compromised launch code security.

            Again, possibly fanciful, possibly not. As Celente has long said, when all else fails they take you to war. The question as always is who “they” are.

            John Helmer (Gorilla radio interview 9Oct) points out the Israelis were surprised by the Egyptians in the 1973 war. They had ample intel on the military buildup at the Suez canal and chose to interpret it as mere exercises. Helmer’s thesis is the Israelis have such a huge superiority complex that as in 73 they discounted the ability of the Arabs despite any intel suggesting an imminent attack.

            But wait — there’s more! Helmer reports:

            “A US Sixth Fleet squadron … is now steaming towards the eastern shore of the Mediterranean, following the unusual mission last Thursday by a US Navy P-8 aircraft monitoring the state of operational alert of the Russian naval fleet at Tartous, Syria.”

            From down here in Hickville we humbly ask: WTF????

          • justanotherguy October 9, 2023 at 5:52 pm #

            6th fleet steaming in, huh? i sense a major attack by the PAF, using unmarked planes, on those intel gathering assets. p(R)esident johnson – uh bidet – will of course assure us its all mistaken identity.

            if there are any american sailors still standing.

            sheesh, this rhyming history stuff is real work!

          • Islander October 9, 2023 at 9:48 pm #

            Ditto wow.

            Very interesting and thought-provoking. Some comments at the thread are interesting and some are off the wall.

            It reminds me of some quite well known examples of pictures that can be interpreted in two ways—but the brain can only perceive one of the “versions” at a time.

            Do a search for “drawing of old woman and young woman” and then choose “images.” (URL is far too long to post.)

            The source of the Gaza AI’d photo seems to be a mystery.

    • mary.m October 9, 2023 at 11:41 am #

      One theory being bandied is false flag by nuttyyahoo to unite country behind him. Nothing like a little war to distract from your crimes.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 11:57 am #

        Another theory is somebody did this to make him look bad.

        • Amman October 9, 2023 at 4:46 pm #

          Another might be someone ‘effed up.

          • Wizard of the Saddle October 10, 2023 at 9:23 am #

            Occam’s Razor applied. Bravo.

        • WadeWaters October 10, 2023 at 5:03 am #

          Another theory is that military intelligence has become far too

          enamoured with AI. The more the human element has been

          removed the less accurate the intelligence.

    • elysianfield October 9, 2023 at 11:56 am #

      “…toughest fighters on earth….”

      Ishhabaka…

      You could once say the same about Americans, Germans….

    • Cactus Girl October 9, 2023 at 1:32 pm #

      @Ishabaka: Hmmm. Shades of Pearl Harbor and 9-11?

    • abbybwood October 9, 2023 at 2:04 pm #

      I think The Deep State Lockdown Globalists, led by Nuland, Blinken, Sullivan and Co. are doing exactly what has been planned: Chaos.

    • Bilejones October 9, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

      You’ve been believing Israeli Propaganda, again, haven’t you.

      People seem to have forgotten that Hamas was a creation of the mossad, put in place to split the people from Hezbollah. Netanyahu has got his war, the corruption charges go away, Israel now has its 9/11.

    • Rodulf October 9, 2023 at 7:45 pm #

      For holy shit’s sake…it’s all BS, a psyop, deceptions. How could anyone believe anything coming from the face holes of Israeli hypocrites?

    • Anthea October 9, 2023 at 8:45 pm #

      @ Ishabaka:

      My guess is that the event–indeed, the whole chain of events–was pre-planned to take place precisely as it did. The idea that there was a failure of Israeli intelligence is particularly ludicrous. Someone, or several someones, conspired to light this fuse.

      • Wizard of the Saddle October 10, 2023 at 9:29 am #

        Mossad is highly capable and very competent….but they are not supermen and no one is infallible.

        Most likely scenario: Whatever intel Israel received prior to the assault was misinterpreted by the analysts and/or dismissed by the Netanyahu government as not being a credible threat.

        It happens in the world of intelligence more often than the James Bond flicks would have you believe. It is a world of smoke and mirrors and even experienced hands are frequently unsure what to believe.

        • ATZ942 October 10, 2023 at 10:53 am #

          True that. There would have been no 9/11 with Gore, the duly-elected Prez, in the White House.

          • Grandpa October 14, 2023 at 3:38 pm #

            Gore? I don’t care if that sumbitch was “duly” elected, whatever the eff that means; but him or the Shrub? Two cheeks on the same ass.
            Now, since he was right on “climate change”… hilarious, just hilarious

        • AZJJ October 10, 2023 at 10:57 am #

          Bullcrap. You claim that not only Mossad, but the 5-eyes and Saudi intelligence agencies all just “misinterpreted” the warnings…
          Egypt sent a strong warning that something “Big” was in the works…

          At the very least, some heightened level of readiness would have been called for… and no “rave” would have been allowed on the border with the slimy animal ragheads.

    • Not_GeorgeT October 9, 2023 at 11:02 pm #

      Hamas paraglider troops

      Uncover DC has Tracey Beanz, after research, taging it as some repurposed training video.

      The Ukraine body bags video, wherever it shows up, tagged as a climate change protest somewhere. Watch for the protestors in the bags moving around a bit.

      uncoverdc.com/2023/10/09/dark-to-light-the-weekend-turns-deadly

    • FGB3 October 10, 2023 at 1:41 am #

      It’s complicated.

  2. reggiezz October 9, 2023 at 9:52 am #

    This situation can spin out of control in an infinite number of ways. The Arabs and Persians aren’t rational and cautious like Putin. And the Brandon Addministration and all neocons are possessed by demons.

    It’s obvious this was designed in DC to serve as a pretext for war with Iran, as Phase 2 of their plan to control Russian and Iranian energy resources. How else can they control China?

    But the Iranians have longer range missiles now and who knows what else. So let’s say Iran levels Tel Aviv and the US fleet in response to Israeli air strikes. Then does Brandon take out Tehran? And what happens after that?

    No oil will be flowing, that’s for sure.

    • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2023 at 11:21 am #

      Israel will take out Tehran, and they will be backed up by Saudi Arabia, Kuwait & Qatar.

      • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 11:46 am #

        Are you sure? Isn’t Saudi Arabia in BRICS now? Along with Russia, Iran and other good actors?

        • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2023 at 12:24 pm #

          Do you see Saudi Arabia taking in any ‘Dislocated Palestinians’? They want nothing to do with those troublemakers. Iran & SArabia are at one another’s throats all of the time, and I don’t think the Saudi King would shed too many tears if Tehran was evaporated.

          • Ron Anselmo October 9, 2023 at 3:03 pm #

            Sunni vs. Shiites

          • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 3:39 pm #

            So why would Iran help Hamas – Iran being Shiite and Hamas, Sunni?

            Iran is allied with Russia and this has been the case for a long time.

          • justanotherguy October 9, 2023 at 6:12 pm #

            don’t forget the houthis in yemen. they have an unscratched itch, just a little one.

          • Ron Anselmo October 10, 2023 at 10:47 am #

            Janos – there’s absolutely no love lost between Iran and Israel. On Iran supporting Hamas – “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” – an Arab/Israeli thing.

            The comment was more directed toward – BRH’s comment “Iran & SArabia at each other’s throats all of the time…”.

            Both are Middle East oil salesmen, fighting for market share, but their religious sect differences go back centuries – Sunni vs. Shiite – prior to oil.

            Even though, as you mention, Iran is allied with Russia, and SA, leaning toward BRICS alignment, Iran is none too fond of SA playing footsie with Israel of late.

            Iran probably sees two strikes against Israel. 1) They are infidels and 2) they’re making nice with the Sunnis.

      • AZJJ October 10, 2023 at 10:58 am #

        Russia has a joint security agreement with Iran.

        If that flag goes up… China would probably join in as well. Under Joke Biden… the US would get its ass kicked.

  3. The Man They Call Zazelle October 9, 2023 at 9:52 am #

    “But, really, I must ask: are you not a little tired of being a country that doesn’t know what it’s doing?” ~ JHK

    Ok ok, but is it a known unknown or an unknown unknown?

    Anyway, I’m in that other open-air prison known as Canada. And it’s Thanksgiving Monday today, so someones doth declare.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 9, 2023 at 10:02 am #

      …And so I made us a stew with much from my little garden plot, including beets, which have turned my entire stew a kind of deep red-fuscia. Damn tasty, though, if bloody weird-looking.

      • GreenAlba October 9, 2023 at 10:35 am #

        Or weirdly bloody-looking!

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 9, 2023 at 1:24 pm #

          Yes, that’s why I used bloody, but your bloody sentence position’s better.

  4. diggy October 9, 2023 at 9:57 am #

    In recent times I thought our government was simply incompetent – too big, unwieldy and in the pockets of the deep state and corporate lobbyists (which it is).

    Given the dishonest Russia-gate, Covid, Ukraine narratives, coupled with the ongoing prosecution of domestic political enemies, the malicious nature of our government has been fully exposed – it is our enemy.

    • Ron Anselmo October 9, 2023 at 10:07 am #

      Welcome to Earth diggy – careful where you put your spaceship, they’re big on parking tickets here too.

      • diggy October 9, 2023 at 10:37 am #

        I have no idea what this means.

        • Paula D October 9, 2023 at 11:19 am #

          It was a joke, a pretty funny one at that. Don’t take it personally.

    • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 10:14 am #

      Doggy

      It is our number one enemy. I do not see any other country threatening me directly as the Deep State and its global bosses are doing.

      IMHO, there really is no representation for the American people in DC any more, the Deep State represents themselves and the same global interests.

      • neurodoc October 9, 2023 at 10:19 am #

        AZ: Sounds like taxation and legislation without representation. The tree of liberty needs watering.

        • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 10:47 am #

          Somebody sends me these things. I don’t know who the man is or whether this has been posted here before:

          “Americans are the biggest slaves in their own Country”

          https://x.com/iluminatibot/status/1710856837493604688?s=20

        • abbybwood October 9, 2023 at 2:15 pm #

          Just wait until the WHO agreement with the US and most other sucker nations goes through here without any discussions, debates, media coverage and the U.S. loses its sovereignty over all matters of “pandemic response”.

          Bill Gates will show up with Klaus Schwab as the twin Dr. Evils and declare that “Disease X” is in a corner of Papau New Guini and the planet must be locked down, masks must be worn even when in your own home while showering and sleeping and that all jabs will be mandated for everyone.

          This is what is coming if Congress and the MSM don’t start doing their jobs.

          My understanding is that Russia has already started the process of removing themselves from WHO. The U.S. should get out too. And pretty damn quick.

          • Grandpa October 14, 2023 at 3:45 pm #

            both Bill Goats and Klaws Scrab are 1 bullet away from eternity in damnation. Keep it up boys, it gets closer every day.

      • Disaffected October 9, 2023 at 10:33 am #

        LOL! Diggy Doggy? Must be Oggy Doggy’s progeny.

    • draupnir October 9, 2023 at 10:45 am #

      I’ve known that since I was 16. How is it you are only now coming to realize this fact.

      • WadeWaters October 9, 2023 at 12:32 pm #

        It’s a good thing to wake up and begin to see clearly, whenever it

        happens.

      • megabeth October 9, 2023 at 12:35 pm #

        Weird flex. I’m glad to see people wake up at any time.

  5. 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 9:58 am #

    What timing.
    The exposure of the Biden crime family and its connections with Ukraine.

    The anti-war activities from Bernie Sanders office to the take-down of the speaker of the house.

    Momentum was very slowly shifting to accountability and peace.

    War hawk candidates gaining no traction.
    Haley, the new neocon candidate, who took in millions from the war cartel was desperately trying to out war the cadaver known as Pence.

    The support for Ukraine and all its corruption hit rock bottom. Not a day went by without more corruption revelations and more losses.

    Again what timing.
    Perpetual war.

    All the alleged conservative news sources from Citizen Free Press to Breitbart agitating for war support.

    They swallowed it hook, line, sinker, and rod.

    Cheerleaders for destruction. It’s the right wing way.

    In one day they put together the entire clandestine 6 month plan!

    War.

    Even Orange guy, everyone’s great hope, got behind it.

    More war.

    The unfortunate victims: families, revelers, ordinary schmos. Suckers.

    As always.

    The powerful, wealthy are sheltered, their progeny unavailable to fight.

    Send in the American suckers.
    “I only wanted the GI Bill.”

    All bills must be paid for, stupid puppet.

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    • Disaffected October 9, 2023 at 10:25 am #

      Bingo!

    • draupnir October 9, 2023 at 10:48 am #

      Support for war is exactly the thing we must deny them.

    • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 10:49 am #

      Today is the day Bobby Jr. has chosen for his big announcement.

      I wonder if it will still be all kumbayah.

      • Disaffected October 9, 2023 at 11:18 am #

        Good question. This is why the incumbent always holds the trump card. Start a war and label everyone else as traitors for opposing it in any way. Works like a champ every time.

      • Islander October 9, 2023 at 11:26 am #

        I was wondering the same thing.

        It is also Indigenous People’s Day. A holiday.
        I guess we don’t have Columbus Day anymore.

        Since no one “celebrates” IPD except a few indigenes, I guess we just lost a nice holiday.

        • Paula D October 9, 2023 at 1:10 pm #

          What did people do on Columbus Day? I guess the Italians on the east coast had parades, but there was nothing in California.

          Not even a tradition of eating spaghetti, or something.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 1:17 pm #

            It was originally not considered an “Italian” holiday, from what I remember.

            I only starting seeing that when we started pushing ethnicity and diversity and tribalism.

            It was a day to celebrate America, and to not go to school.

          • Paula D October 9, 2023 at 2:43 pm #

            Good point, Beryl.

            I don’t remember the celebrate America part, but I suppose you are right.

          • Anthea October 9, 2023 at 8:52 pm #

            Columbus Day seems like it was always the day that I went into town to mail a package, go to the bank, or print something at the library and couldn’t figure out why everything was closed.

        • megabeth October 9, 2023 at 2:21 pm #

          I prefer, in my ethnocentricity, to celebrate Leif Erikson Day.

          • WadeWaters October 10, 2023 at 5:07 am #

            A good idea. What day is that?

        • cedricward October 9, 2023 at 3:07 pm #

          But they’ll still sell the mattresses.

      • Wizard of the Saddle October 10, 2023 at 9:41 am #

        I watched Bobby Kennedy’s big “I’m now an Independent” coming-out party in Boston yesterday.

        A more modest sized and lackluster crowd of “supporters” could scarcely have been assembled. Only Brandon’s rally attendees are smaller and less pumped.

        I felt rather badly for RFK, Jr. His destiny in this election appears to be to become one of several spoilers, though I think he still has a slim chance of being at least a Perot-level contender in 2024.

        But if that’s going to happen he needs supporters with a hell of a lot more fire in their bellies. That rally was positively anemic compared to any sized gathering of MAGA acolytes.

        • Ron Anselmo October 10, 2023 at 10:59 am #

          Wiz – it they had their druthers, they’d put half of us in jail, just to level the playing field. They still may, Christopher Wray & HRC, gettin’ it warmed up.

          • Ron Anselmo October 10, 2023 at 11:01 am #

            *if*

    • Islander October 9, 2023 at 11:30 am #

      I think Hezbollah has more or less warned the Yanks to stay out of it . . .

      httpX://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/several-americans-confirmed-killed-israel-orders-complete-siege-gaza-barbarians

    • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 11:49 am #

      As Pelosi said, even if America is smoking ruin, it will support Israel.

      But why?!

      Reasons.

      • Hated American October 9, 2023 at 9:24 pm #

        Epstein, for one.

    • Islander October 9, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

      I saw a comment to this effect at ZeroHedge—What great timing.

      That commenter theorized that this is the global banksters deciding to eliminate Netty. I Think.

      Jury is still WAAAY out on whether this is a false flag or not, and whose.

      But it sure seems like good timing for the DC rats, and Biden.

      It is all pretty damned confusing, but I think it makes sense to focus on the TIMING.

      I hope the few bull dogs we have in the House keep their eyes on the ball, and that ball is the impeachment and exposing the Biden Crime Family.

      But I can see AIPAC coming around to cash in chips with everyone, Dem and Rep.

      The worst thing Trump did, IMO, was to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of the Zionist state in Palestine.

      • Wizard of the Saddle October 10, 2023 at 9:46 am #

        Palestine is a figment of your imagination. Arabs are Arabs and the ones stuck in Gaza are just hapless pawns – leftover detritus from old Arab-Israeli fights half a century ago that no longer have relevance in the region.

        Most Arab states have moved on and would much rather get rich than go to war with Israel these days.

        All of the Arabs in Gaza should have simply been handed back over to Egypt 20 years ago along with that miserable plot of land they are stuck in and let Egypt deal with the them.

        • Islander October 10, 2023 at 6:30 pm #

          BS.

  6. Alfred October 9, 2023 at 10:00 am #

    I believe it is utterly disingenuous to frame this decades old conflict as ‘Religious’ because it permits the entry of faith-based facts into evidence from both sides.

    This conflict has always been about dirt, just like most human conflicts.

    That dirt belonged to the Palestinians who lived there for thousands of years. Their eviction started with the Balfour Act, whereupon the pogrom of Israeli terrorism began. It blossomed with the assassination of Folke Bernadotte at the hands of the IRGUN. All the top Israeli heroes (founding fathers and mothers) were there.

    Read!

    Empathy for Palestine. Can you imagine watching an orchard of olive trees that has been in your family for generations bulldozed to make way for yahoos from eastern europe? Homes taken, in probably the same manner, evoking the same scenes that you’re seeing today. Check out how long it takes a fucking olive tree to become mature and stable, and let me know if the people who cultivate them for centuries are gonna let that kinda hate go?

    • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 10:03 am #

      It’s about replacement.

      Get familiar with it

      • Alfred October 9, 2023 at 10:09 am #

        Replacement sounds like a euphemism for genocide.

        Let’s call it what it is, “Genocide.”

      • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 10:52 am #

        It’s about where can we move on to, to ignite WWIII, because the other dry tinder, Ukraine, has reached the end of its useful life?

    • White German Shepherd October 9, 2023 at 10:04 am #

      This!

    • teddyboy46 October 9, 2023 at 10:10 am #

      I suggest you read the book the Haji by Leon Uris to get a better understanding of the situation.

      • Alfred October 9, 2023 at 10:26 am #

        I believe the book’s title is, “The Haj.”

        Interesting title. Perhaps I’ll read it, but I don’t think I’ve deviated from the spirit based on the synopsis I just read.

        Thanks!

      • badberries October 9, 2023 at 10:33 am #

        I’d suggest you read everything by Uris, then Michener, Clavell, Potok, Vonnegut (for levity), Mishima, Bradbury, Asimov… and the list goes on. A.B.Guthrie, A.C.Clarke, (stay away from Tolstoi, he introduces eight hundred and twelve characters in the first thirty pages).

        Lest I forget, I’ve read everything by our host as well, he’s a pretty good “word-smith”.

        • Alfred October 9, 2023 at 11:01 am #

          I can check off Vonnegut and Yukio Mishima!

          I’ve got Gulag Archipelago on-deck. That may take me till next year… Is a year out too optimistic?

          • badberries October 9, 2023 at 3:46 pm #

            Alfred, I started Solzhenitsyn with “a day in the life of Ivan Denisovich”, it’s short.

        • hmuller October 9, 2023 at 11:01 am #

          I could never get past the first few pages of War and Peace. Too many characters. Unreadable!

          Did you know “Tolstoi” means “fat” in Russian? Not sure if that’s relevant.

          • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2023 at 11:33 am #

            You’re right about Tolstoy. I’m still working on Anna Karenina and I’m 10 months in.

          • GreenAlba October 9, 2023 at 12:28 pm #

            I couldn’t put War and Peace down when I read it at about 19. And I’ve watched at least 3 versions of it, including the Bondarchuk film, which is about 8 hours long. But thank you for reminding me, as I think I lent it to a friend years ago and she’s never given it back!

            Re Tolstoi meaning ‘fat’, I’ve never got over finding out that Pasternak means ‘parsnip’!

          • Q. Shtik October 9, 2023 at 1:13 pm #

            Did you know “Tolstoi” means “fat” in Russian? – hmuller

            ============

            Every time I glance over toward my wife I see her typing on her phone with her thumbs. I ask her “what are you writing Mrs Tolstoy?”

          • elysianfield October 9, 2023 at 9:21 pm #

            Muller,
            War and Peace was one of the books used in the Evelyn Woods speed reading course. I read it in 30 minutes.

            …It was about Russia….

        • Islander October 9, 2023 at 2:45 pm #

          I suggest you read The Controversy of Zion, by Douglas Reed.

          • justanotherguy October 16, 2023 at 10:27 am #

            200 Years Together, by Solzhenitzyn

            except its banned in english speaking countries; you’ll need to read it in the russian

      • elysianfield October 9, 2023 at 3:14 pm #

        Teddy,
        Leon Uris? If I wanted to read fiction, I would read the Old Testament.

        …sorry.

        • badberries October 9, 2023 at 3:56 pm #

          elysianfield, when I see you in hell, I’ll save you a seat close to the Sea of Eternal Flames with a good view of the Wailers and Gnashers show. (fyi, it’s a lively audience participation performance in endless acts, thrilling! Bring throat lozenges, you’ll need ’em).

          • elysianfield October 9, 2023 at 9:19 pm #

            Berries,
            And ice water? With slices of lemon? Count me in….

          • badberries October 11, 2023 at 10:09 am #

            Elysianfield, yes, there is ice water but the ice is made of blood and you only use the lemon wedges to remove the stains in the carpet.

          • elysianfield October 11, 2023 at 11:18 am #

            Berries,
            You and Jerek could give Torquemada a run for his money when it comes to redress….

          • badberries October 11, 2023 at 4:18 pm #

            Elysian, I always thought Torquemada was something of a candy-ass. I could get better results with a can of Zippo lighter fluid and a book of matches, no “Rack” to build, no “Iron Maiden” or pincers to forge.

    • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 10:23 am #

      You are right. Could be the time for ultimate decision making is upon the Middle East right now.

      Someone needs to destroy the other side, nothing else will settle the issues.

      Political remedies no longer exist. I would not want to be in Gaza right now, it is about to be taken back from the Palestinians.

      Also, this is the death of territory for peace negotiations championed by the US, the two nation solution.

      Sorta like right here. The USA will not get involved, boots on the ground, in any of these local civil wars as it prepares for its own.

      • Alfred October 9, 2023 at 10:28 am #

        “Taken back?”

        Don’t you mean, “taken away?”

        No doubt leveled, but the Semitic semantics mean something here…

        • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 11:17 am #

          No, taken back.

          The Gaza was a territory for peace “gift” to the Palestinians.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 12:07 pm #

            Yes John I thought I remembered something about Gaza being given back already.

        • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 11:55 am #

          As one Norman said to another: Ireland is sword land, open to the strongest. And as another said, Our opponents are naked (no armor). Strike, Barons, strike!

          Get it? All nations are born in blood. There would be no United States if we hadn’t conquered and dispossessed the Indians, thus becoming the Native Americans.

          Don’t like it? You wouldn’t even exist (at least in your current form) without the Conquerors. You owe them everything – all that you have and all that you are. Are you praying for them? Offering up sacrifices?

          • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 12:08 pm #

            Ireland is in a unique situation in that it is seeing land taken by the British given back to people who were never from there.

          • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

            Unique? Same thing is happening here. Do you think they’re going to give the Indians back their land?

      • abbybwood October 9, 2023 at 2:20 pm #

        Green Alba:

        Never loan out your books!

        • GreenAlba October 9, 2023 at 5:16 pm #

          I hardly do any more. If I want to share a book, I buy more than one copy. But it wasn’t the book I lent – it was the 8-hour Bondarchuk film, which I don’t recall being cheap. She may still have it, though.

    • C.O.Jones October 9, 2023 at 10:26 am #

      Alfred – are you saying Jerusalem belongs to the Palestinians?

      • Alfred October 9, 2023 at 10:36 am #

        I’m saying the land belongs to the people from whom it was taken by fiat, then by force while the world watched…

        Since 1917, starting with the Balfour Declaration, then throughout the thirties and forties when the Irgun, or Etzel, a Zionist paramilitary organization ran their pogrom in Palestine and then Israel. Then they watched each UN resolution ignored by the great powers, all the while committing genocide against the Palestinian people.

        Is Jerusalem in there, probably – so yeah I guess so.

        • draupnir October 9, 2023 at 11:07 am #

          My dear sir, new people come into a territory and push out the old. Sometimes it is done by force. Often it is done by the inevitable intermarriage until the region is populated by an entirely new people. Right after the Civil War we began the Indian War and pushed back those people and placed them on reservations, where they have diminished ever since. By your logic, we should give the country back to them.

          We, here in the US and in Europe, are under similar attack right now. In any event, I predict our visage is going to be much browner in the future than historically. Fishbelly white skin is not that attractive anyway.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 11:16 am #

            If you were to start ‘giving back’ the land to the rightful owners, there would be perpetual motion as each new group moved in and then had to make way for those who had it before them.

            If you go back in history far enough, everybody is related to everybody else, so we would have to pick an arbitrary date for this to stop, and also pick an arbitrary of the amount of DNA needed to claim kinship with the descendants.

          • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 11:21 am #

            Beryl

            Exactly, the strongest will always compete and destroy the weakest. It is the nature of the human being, ethnocentrism.

            It will never be stopped, because there will always be someone stronger.

            The US is about to get this fact shoved right up its butt.

            It is interesting that Iran and Israel are about the same strength, this war could be a doozy.

          • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2023 at 11:28 am #

            Good point Beryl. The descendants of Etruscans would be kicking Romans out of Italy, and Romanized Celts (King Arthur) would be mobilizing once again, after 1500 years, to expel the Anglo Saxons from Britannia.

          • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2023 at 11:31 am #

            Mark Twain visited the Levant in the 1890s and reported the place was uninhabited.

          • draupnir October 9, 2023 at 11:31 am #

            JohnAZ, I’m not convinced Iran has nuclear capability. I have no doubt Isreal does and is prepared to use them, though it would make them pariahs.

          • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 11:57 am #

            Careful volks, Berry’s not on your side. She’s against ALL nations – just wants to moosh every one together. Doesn’t identify with America, the West, or the White race at all.

          • Alfred October 9, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

            Yeah, that explanation might have passed muster in the sixteen hundreds, but in 2023 or 1947 is load of crap.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

            Jarek, where do you get this stuff from?

          • Paula D October 9, 2023 at 1:17 pm #

            Iran has 90 million citizens and sits on 636,000 square miles.

            Israel has 9 million citizens, of which only 6 million are Jews. Their territory is 10, 760 square miles.

            How are they equal?

          • Hated American October 9, 2023 at 9:34 pm #

            Shoot. Read Wendell Berry’s “The Unsettling of America”. Americans do it to Americans, using property taxes to run out rural people, farmers, and force them to sell. Real estate people, developers get rich, new public skool “campuses” are built for the new homeowners the developers ran out the farmers for. It’s what the Costner series “Yellowstone” is about. Developers wanting someones picturesque/well situated land, and making deals with pols to seize that land promising jobs and increased tax revenue. But all that happens is the values go up and the population can no longer afford to live in their own town. This isn’t just indigenous issue at all. It is the rich man stealing the poor man’s lamb.

          • Ron Anselmo October 9, 2023 at 11:13 pm #

            Rich Men North of Richmond

          • Beryl of Oyl October 10, 2023 at 7:32 am #

            Hated, that’s what Pfizer did in New London. The Supreme Court said it was okay, for reasons.

          • Anthea October 10, 2023 at 12:28 pm #

            @ Hated American:

            I read Berry’s “The Unsettling of America” many years ago. Excellent book. This has been going on for a long time.

            In my area, back in the 70s, real estate developers in Johnson County, Kansas, coveted the farmlands in the Blue Valley area, but the farmers wouldn’t sell. So the developers conspired with the county to raise the farmers’ property taxes into the stratosphere and thus force them to sell. That area, once it was developed, quickly became one of Johnson County’s wealthiest suburbs. Maybe it still is.

            But, as a matter of fact, Johnson County–now wall-to-wall housing developments, malls, and freeways–was once predominantly farmland. In the late 70s, there was severe flooding in the Plaza area of Kansas City, Missouri, where Brush Creek runs smack against the southern edge of the Plaza. This was entirely due to the paving over of Brush Creek’s upstream watershed–which happened to be in Johnson County. I wasn’t living in KC at the time, but I heard the floodwaters came up to second-story windows. (There was quite a lot of rain that year, which I think was 1978, with quite a lot of flooding elsewhere.)

        • Islander October 9, 2023 at 11:19 am #

          Alfred: What you describe is settler colonialism.

          Most of the world no longer looks with favor on this excuse you offer for ripping off the people who originally inhabited the land, and who tamed it, and who developed it in their own way.

          Who are Israel’s friends?

          • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 11:24 am #

            Most of the world—-

            BS, most of the world are weak sisters that do not give a damn. Your term settler colonialism will continue as longer as a dictator type entity rules anywhere in the world.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 12:16 pm #

            “Settler colonialism”. You will find the definition in the New Dictionary of Wokism.

          • Rowdypiglet October 9, 2023 at 1:28 pm #

            I think “settler colonialism” is the phrase we now use to describe what has always gone on: the stronger conquer the weaker. We used to do this in a much nastier way than we have in the last few hundred years, so you could make a good argument for the belief that we’re somewhat more benevolent than we were.

            For most of humanity’s past, there were no apologies, no reparations, not even the payment of a few beads and trinkets. The stronger took what belonged to the weaker, and unapologetically killed or enslaved those who were conquered. Human nature doesn’t change, and we’re not really very nice – so we have to learn to work with what we are. I don’t shrug off predatory behavior, but it doesn’t help to pretend that it’s not our default setting.

          • Islander October 9, 2023 at 2:48 pm #

            John AZ:

            Will the Cherios Kid save the Maiden?

            We’ll Soon Find Out!!

          • Islander October 9, 2023 at 10:03 pm #

            Beryl:
            ““Settler colonialism”. You will find the definition in the New Dictionary of Wokism.”

            You are having a big fit of smarty-pants today.

            So, OK, Show me.

          • SpeedyBB October 12, 2023 at 9:30 am #

            Islander, JohnAZ said “…It is interesting that Iran and Israel are about the same strength, this war could be a doozy.”

            I have had this amusing fantasy of the Tel Aviv switchboard sizzling and sparking, smoking and spitting as urgent phone calls come in from rulers all over the Arab crescent, maybe as far as Afghanistan: “Hey Israel! It ain’t us. We’re very sorry for any offense we’ve made.

            “We’re sitting this one out. Please excuse us from the fray. Out little harmless shithole country talked big but never did you any damage.”

            When the first mushroom cloud boils upward there is going to be heap plenty frantic back-pedaling from all those puffed-up fist-shaking sandmen.

            Anybody who has ever witnessed an atmospheric detonation of a nuclear device knows what I’m talking about.

            Hiroshima and Nagasaki were enough to jiggle Hirohito from his pleasant stupor, and even galvanize him to face down all the generals and admirals, telling them to call it quits.

        • tuco22 October 9, 2023 at 1:01 pm #

          The “Palestinians” came into existence after the siege of Jerusalem by Rome and then the diaspora of the Jewish survivors to the surrounding “nations” in the empire in 70 AD. They even went so far as to rename Judea on their maps as Palestine. The non-Jewish people that remained in what was Israel became “Palestinians.” That’s how Palestine came into being and Israel ceased being a country until May 18, 1948. God told them that after two thousand years of diaspora among the nations that He was going to bring them back to their land, and May 18, 1948, was the fulfillment of that prophecy, which Satan attempted to prevent through the Holocaust. God gave Israel to Abraham and his descendants forever for his obedience. This is all in Genesis.

          • Hated American October 9, 2023 at 9:36 pm #

            Ahh, but who is Israel? That is the question.

        • Wizard of the Saddle October 10, 2023 at 10:01 am #

          All horseshit. Territory “belongs” to whatever pack of wolves can seize it and hold it…..

          ….until another meaner pack of wolves arrives to repeat that process.

          Historical “claims” to land are merely propaganda used by the weak and the dispossessed to whine and cry about.

          If you covet a piece of land, you and your pack must take down the pack that currently holds it.

          Force is the ultimate arbiter of these territorial disputes – not weak, pussyfied “men” in striped pants at the U.N.

          This is the reality of the world….stretching all the way back through time and into the mists of the prehistoric era.

          • Ron Anselmo October 10, 2023 at 11:09 am #

            “Force is the ultimate arbiter of these territorial disputes – not weak, pussyfied “men” in striped pants at the U.N.” ~ Wizard of the Saddle

            F**kin’ A Wiz – the sword is mightier than the (U.N.) pen.

          • Grandpa October 14, 2023 at 4:04 pm #

            ^^ this right here, Wiz. This is what used to be called “only the strong survive” or “survival of the fittest” – or… “strong men make good times, good times make weak men… “

    • Islander October 9, 2023 at 11:24 am #

      And a lot more.

      Such as water.

      Young snot-nose Betar “pioneers” who went to Palestine in the thirties to harass the Pals were gleeful about “occupying” ancient water sources and springs to prevent the Bedouins and farmers from accessing them.

      And much worse.

      You can read it in Moshe Arens’s memoir.

    • King of Comedy October 9, 2023 at 11:27 am #

      Be careful, Al, your Marxism is showing…

      This is the same bedwetter logic that has produced the ridiculous spectacle of the Native American land acknowledgment in the decaying corpse of what used to be the United States. The poor oppressed™, always being fucked over by the oppressor… but the reality is that the strong taking land from the weak is as old as the opposable thumb. That “thousand year old” Palestinian dirt was over the last 3000 at least ruled by the Assyrians, the Babylonians, the ancient Israelites, the Romans, the Ottomans, the British, and modern Israel, in pretty much unbroken succession. Similar to Ukraine, Palestine sounds less like a country than a way station for marauding armies.

      All that really matters and all that has ever really mattered is if you can hold the land or if you can’t. We’ve lived in a sweet spot in history for the last century give or take, so fat and bored by the comforts around us, that the eunuch crowd among us has forgotten the essential truth of life on this planet: if you’re not the wolf, then you’re the sheep.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 12:20 pm #

        We are in a situation inAmerica where we can’t hold the land because we won’t enforce the laws of our land.

        The communists are rolling right over us unimpeded. We do have border and immigration laws; we do have a Constitution.

        We are allowing them to take what is ours.

        Woke is a cover for allowing them to do it.

        • tuco22 October 9, 2023 at 1:41 pm #

          I believe this acquiescence to it all on the part of our elected representatives is part bamboozlement and part blackmail.

      • Ron Anselmo October 9, 2023 at 12:21 pm #

        KoC – Beware the wolf in shepherd’s clothing. There are many.

        • Ron Anselmo October 9, 2023 at 12:27 pm #

          A wolf in sheep’s clothing may take one of the flock from time to time – but Aesop never told us – a wolf in shepherd’s clothing can over time, devour the entire flock.

      • Alfred October 9, 2023 at 12:54 pm #

        It is. It really is the same thing, the difference being in 2023 the world shouldn’t condone it.

        But yeah,
        same thing we did to the indians
        Same the Germans did the Jews
        Same the the Jews are doing to the Palestinians.

        Isn’t it ironic, don’t ya thing?

        I’m not wetting the bed, I’m calling a spade a spade.

        • King of Comedy October 9, 2023 at 2:28 pm #

          What’s different now than in 1823 or 23BC?

          The only thing I can see is the comfortable existence, largely brought about by the very conquerors you find so distasteful, enables one to develop a conscience. The problem is that this conscience is completely artificial and is supported only by the edifice the grievance mongers would like to topple. It goes away and so do all the fine feelings which is why I stand by the “bed wetting” characterization. From a historical perspective, only spoiled children can think this way and it’s also imo the upside of the coming collapse. Delicate sensibilities will have the staying power of a fart in the wind when it comes down to the existential question of your family or the other guy’s family…

        • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2023 at 2:32 pm #

          Israel was pretty close to South Africa — the two countries collaborated to build nuclear weapons — so Israelis have a first hand look at what happens when you give up your country to the grasping orcs. In SA it took a mere 3 decades for a first world country that pioneered open heart surgery & invented modern mining techniques to devolve into a squalid, dysfunctional 3rd world sh#thole. What, you don’t think Israel has noticed? When Israel ceded Gaza to the Palestinians out of good will they left behind of a system functioning greenhouses they had built over a period of decades, a development that had made the desert bloom; the first thing the Palestinians did was smash them up.

        • Beryl of Oyl October 10, 2023 at 7:33 am #

          Except the Palestinians are increasing, not decreasing.

      • Paula D October 9, 2023 at 1:21 pm #

        “Similar to Ukraine, Palestine sounds less like a country than a way station for marauding armies.”

        Nice observation there. Sucks to be on the crossroads of empires.

        • Paula D October 9, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

          Must be why Mark Twain noticed the place was sparse of population, as reported by BackRow.

      • Islander October 9, 2023 at 2:55 pm #

        ” the strong taking land from the weak is as old as the opposable thumb. ”

        Sure, but let’s identify “the strong,” and the source of their so-called strength.

        The Jews got their “strength” from backroom dealing before the Great War. Their strength was always “secondhand,” that this true today. Without the UK and the USA Israel would not be the strong dumping on the weak.

        Let’s remember that to get a wedge in for the Jews in Palestine, which certain Brits held to be a great idea, mainly strategically, basically five empires were destroyed:
        The Ottomans,
        the Austro-Hungarian
        the Russian
        the German,
        and the British.

        All that just to impose *another* genocidal settler colonial enterprise at the eastern end of the Mediterranean. While the world was still shrieking about the Drang nach Osten and Lebensraum. Gimme an effin’ break.

        • King of Comedy October 9, 2023 at 4:16 pm #

          Pro tip: whoever uses the term “settler colonialism” ranks right up there with the deep thinkers who drool on about “white supremacy”, “intersectionality” and the “patriarchy”. It sounds clownish even in a roomful of Marxists fellating each other; outside of that setting, it’s just not to be taken seriously in any way.

          Vis-a-vis strength, I seem to recall the former USSR backing the Arab countries in the 70 year on/off conflict over in the armpit of the universe, including providing arms and resources to the PLO. Certainly there were Soviet weapons and weapons systems on the Arab side in ‘73. Sounds a lot like the adversaries of Israel had a little bit of that secondhand strength as well… who knows… maybe Jewish secondhand strength is more powerful than Arab secondhand strength… but relative strength still triumphs over relative weakness anyway you slice it. So no other way to see your reply but as a FAIL.

          • Islander October 9, 2023 at 9:53 pm #

            ” So no other way to see your reply but as a FAIL.”

            fail of what, exactly?

            You are in love with your own “drooling.”

      • elysianfield October 9, 2023 at 3:18 pm #

        Yeah…what the King said….

      • Anthea October 9, 2023 at 9:15 pm #

        @ King of Comedy:

        Well said. There are few things more ridiculous than the claim that a land area rightfully belongs to whoever got there first.

        As Col. MacGregor said in one of his videos, quoting his Scottish ancestors, “The land is mine that I can hold with my sword.” That’s the way it works, and that’s the way it always has worked.

        And the claim that some piece of real estate belongs to you because God said so, or the pope said so, or Great Britain said so is ludicrous.

        • Islander October 9, 2023 at 9:57 pm #

          “Well said. There are few things more ridiculous than the claim that a land area rightfully belongs to whoever got there first. ”

          “And the claim that some piece of real estate belongs to you because God said so, or the pope said so, or Great Britain said so is ludicrous.”

          These two statements seem to be contradictory.

          No matter.

          I guess it was also OK for Jewish Germans’ businesses to be Aryanized.

          Or for the businesses and the patents etc of interned German Americans and Japanese Americans to be confiscated and sold off to . . . well, an awful lot of them ended up in the hands of the Pritzkers.

          All good, by you.

          • Anthea October 10, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

            @ Islander:

            I’m not seeing the contradiction.

            I wasn’t referring to situations like persecutions or confiscations of minorities within any particular country, but to the migrations of peoples into land masses–which, in recent history, have mostly been occupied by someone else. Discussions about whether it’s right or wrong are…maybe a little frivolous. They are essentially forces of nature.

            The internment of Japanese Americans and German Americans, and the confiscation of their property were strictly political actions. (I have never heard anything about the persecution of German Americans in my area–where there are/were quite a number of Germans. Maybe there were too many of them to risk bothering with. They certainly were never interred.)

            My impression is that, during WWII in California, there was a great deal of fear of a Japanese invasion. My grandfather and his family lived in California at the outset of WWII, and I’ve been told that the reason he moved the family back to Missouri was due to his fear of a Japanese invasion. Californians, perhaps naturally–with a large helping of war hysteria–viewed Japanese Americans as a potential fifth column. That’s what happens when you get involved in a war. Self-preservation trumps everything else.

          • Islander October 10, 2023 at 6:35 pm #

            “viewed Japanese Americans as a potential fifth column. ”

            Sure, that is always the excuse.

            Great pretext to rob the Japanese and German Americans blind. Most people do not know the extent of the thievery.

            The word is interned.

            “During World War II, the US Government interned at least 11,000 persons of German ancestry. By law, only “enemy aliens” could be interned. However, with governmental approval, their family members frequently joined them in the camps. Many such “voluntarily” interned spouses and children were American citizens.”

        • Q. Shtik October 10, 2023 at 11:00 am #

          There are few things more ridiculous than the claim that a land area rightfully belongs to whoever got there first. – Anthea

          ===========

          ^This^ is my position as well. And therefore “might makes right.”

          • Anthea October 10, 2023 at 1:20 pm #

            @ Q. Shtik:

            Speaking strictly in terms of the natural world, the whole reason that human groups have a moral code is because it would be impossible for their group to survive and prosper without one. I.e., you can’t have the member of your group killing each other and stealing from each other–or lying to each other and cheating each other. The group could not remain cohesive, and it couldn’t function economically. The whole reason that groups have rules of ethics in relation to other groups (“foreigners”) is because trade is mutually beneficial and promotes prosperity. It is therefore prudent to deal fairly and honestly with “foreigners.”

            I’m not sure that this “natural” moral code–which is mostly pure expediency–applies to gaining and retaining a territorial basis. There’s nothing very expedient about trying to apply morality in an existential situation. E.g., if you’re fighting a war in the trenches, it might not be the best time to start equivocating about the morality of killing people.

          • Anthea October 11, 2023 at 3:38 am #

            @ Q. Shtik:

            I don’t know if “might makes right” exactly, in these instances. Maybe it’s more a case in which, in warfare, it more or less goes without saying that moral and ethical codes have broken down or cease to exist altogether.

            It is usually futile to try to reason with an invading army (or horde, as the case may be), or appeal to their better nature. The Mongol invasions of Europe during the 13th Century are a pretty good illustration, but the same applies in any war. There is no social contract between the warring parties–however much they may hurl accustions against each other about atrocities, the targeting of civilians, or the Geneva Conventions. It’s all pretense and hot air.

            I don’t know if that means that “might makes right,” but it does mean that might will prevail–invariably.

            I guess what I’m trying to say is that morality cannot be imposed in such situations (Who would impose it? The UN?), and neither party has the luxury of being the good guy, unless they want to be defeated and die.

            I don’t know if there is any parallel in normal, everyday life to dumping the “sweetness and light” approach to an extreme degree. I do know, though, that there are cases in ordinary, everyday life where we have to get pretty tough–and where we may agonize about the justice or morality of our decisions. (This is the kind of stuff that often haunts you in your old age.)

          • Anthea October 11, 2023 at 2:37 pm #

            @ Q. Shtik:

            I think a person could make a decent argument that “right makes might.”

            “Right” makes a nation strong and cohesive. You can see this in the moral degeneration of the US. If you look at our urban areas, you can see that, without the Rule of Law, businesses cannot flourish (or even exist). Our economy in general stagnates, because no one will work if their labor products are automatically stolen.

            If you think about the various factors involved, if you want to prevail in war, I think that most or all of them go back to the “rightness” of their culture.

            For starters, the chief element to succeeding in warfare is population. God is almost always on the side of the greatest numbers. That means that the culture must value and nurture its women and children. Children are desired–and preferably lots of them. A successful culture does not kill its children or place demands on its women that discourage child-bearing. Self-selecting for genetic extinction is probably a bad (and wrong-headed) idea.

            Another factor is education. If you want to win a war, you can’t be a bunch of dummies. That means that, not only does the culture educate its kids, but also that it has some knowledge to impart. This means a written language, high levels of literacy, highalevels of technological advancement, a long recorded history, and the promotion of cultural cohesion and positive values of honor, work, thrift, plenty, and self-sacrifice. These give a culture the wherewithal to prevail in war.

            The chief ways a culture achieves these are by having a strong moral code, in which they are enjoined to take care of one another, provide for one another, and be productive to achieve wealth. But it’s also important to both wealth and technological advancement that they have a strong ethical code in relation to other nations. This is what allows them to profit from trade and new ideas. E.g., when Captain Bligh and his crew were rowing around the Pacific after being kicked off the Bounty, they encountered several cannibal islands. Obviously, such a group of people was unlikely to profit from trade or new ideas–and were thus destined to remain weak and poor.

            Now that I think of it, many years ago, back in the Dark Ages, I was told that the reason the rest of the world prefered to invest in the US capital markets is because they were honest and governed by sound laws that were actually enforced (back then), and the rest of the world were a bunch of crooks. I think this was probably true, back then. You can test this yourself by buying something on Craigslist from someone from India. I’ve known people who, having observed that Indians will cheat you every time, have decided that they will no longer do business with them and will rather buy their used cell phone from a white suburban soccer mom. Jayant Bhandari has a lot to say about this (over at Lew Rockwell’s site).

            Thus, I think there’s a decent argument the “right” often makes “might.”

        • Islander October 10, 2023 at 6:36 pm #

          “There are few things more ridiculous than the claim that a land area rightfully belongs to whoever got there first. – Anthea”

          There are few things more ridiculous than a US citizen making pronunciamentos on what ideas are ridiculous.

      • Islander October 9, 2023 at 10:05 pm #

        King of Comedy:

        Beware making yourself look silly by issuing these pompous “Sister Mary” warnings.

        • King of Comedy October 10, 2023 at 9:51 am #

          Settler colonialism, lol

      • Wizard of the Saddle October 10, 2023 at 10:12 am #

        Absolutely correct. Anyone who wishes to understand the fundamental nature of mankind needs merely to study wolves in the wild.

        It is not for no reason that mankind was able to domesticate wolves and develop all modern dog breeds from them.

        We think alike and act alike. It was a natural partnership.

        Wokesters reject this because the Nazis famously made this observation way back in the 1930’s and 40’s. Like a broken clock, even the Nazis were right at least twice a day. Observing this dispassionately doesn’t make one a Nazi – just another person who recognizes that their is an inner-wolf in human nature.

        • Wizard of the Saddle October 10, 2023 at 10:13 am #

          There….not their. (Typos happen…)

        • Ron Anselmo October 10, 2023 at 11:17 am #

          Right Wiz – even their social structure is well worth study. Alpha’s are dominant, reproductive rights strengthen the pack, pack hierarchy on merit, etc. No free bison or elk.

          • Blackbird October 10, 2023 at 5:21 pm #

            For anyone who wants to study the social structure of wolves, Michigan Tech’s Isle Royale Wolf-Moose study – ongoing since 1974 – is a good place to start.

            In 1949 wolves crossed the frozen channel between Isle Royale and the Ontario shore of Lake Superior. That 7-mile stretch of cold water rarely freezes. The wolves must have been salivating over the scent of rotting moose (overpopulation due to lack of predators) for the previous couple decades.

            In 1967 the channel froze again. Another pack attempted to cross over from Canada. The packs on Isle Royale temporarily set aside their territorial disputes in order to fend off the invaders. (Thus avoiding a reinvigorating of the gene pool.)

            By the mid-90’s all of the wolves on Isle Royale were as closely related as an old fashioned nuclear family, fecundity had crashed, and wolves were about to go extinct on the island.

            In 2018 the National Park Service began live-trapping wolves and relocating them to Isle Royale. There were only 2 wolves left on the island by that time. I think this was a mistake – let nature take its course. But no, even biologists want to treat nature as if it is a park to be perfected for human enjoyment. We do the same thing with human populations: “Hmmm, Vermont’s too white. We need to import a few thousand Somalis to make it perfecter.” (But we never see a need to import white people to black majority areas…)

            It’s also worth remembering that wolves run around naked all year, don’t cook their food before eating it, and piss on anything they want to claim.

          • Ron Anselmo October 10, 2023 at 10:14 pm #

            Thanks Blackbird – I may have seen bits and pieces of Isle Royale packs over time but will have to dig back into it. Reintroduction of wolves in Yellowstone has also had a big impact. They were hunted to extinction in the late 1800’s.

            When there were so few predators for deer & elk, they grazed cottonwoods to nubs along rivers – beavers had no trees to fell – no dams were built and nowhere to raise their young – nor any pond eco-environments.

            Simple reintroduction of wolves has reversed all that now, and restored nature’s balance. Wolves are majestic animals.

    • Mac October 9, 2023 at 5:31 pm #

      Alfred- I remember seeing a video clip of an Arab man and his elderly father confronting an Israeli settler, explaining that he had stolen and now occupied the old man’s land, showing him the old man’s deed. The Israeli’s response was that God had given him the land. Maybe it was all bullshit, or maybe it was legitimate footage. Who knows?

  7. White German Shepherd October 9, 2023 at 10:03 am #

    “But, really, I must ask: are you not a little tired of being a country that doesn’t know what it’s doing?” ~ JHK

    That feeling is the result of years of the Fed Gov doing whatever it wants in secrecy. We the people do not know what our government is doing. Not remotely.

  8. DyersEve October 9, 2023 at 10:04 am #

    Whatever happens, you can dang well bet it will involve more money related to the policing of the world’s borders but certainly not our own. We are in deep, deep collective dementia like our fearless “leader” FJB.

  9. teddyboy46 October 9, 2023 at 10:08 am #

    I will make a prediction. If Israel drops a nuke on Iran. Then Russia will drop a nuke in Ukraine. Then it will truly be a new world order.

    • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 10:28 am #

      That occurrence will be the end of the USA global policing.

      The Ukraine war is an obvious signal about how ineffective tank warfare, the basis of NATO strategy, is.

      What else is available as the wars accumulate with no solutions?

      Remember, as I just said, the solution for any war is obliteration of one side or the other. Otherwise, the war just continues at a later date.

    • buckeyeman October 9, 2023 at 11:08 am #

      “Then Russia will drop a nuke in Ukraine.”

      Not likely. Firstly, Russia has been consistently “reserved” in this conflict. Yeah, I know, Ukraine has now lost in excess of 450,000 soldiers but that’s largely of their own doing.

      Secondly, Russia does not need to nuke Uke. Russia is winning. The West is now balking like an angry mule at giving more “stuff” to Ukraine, especially when if is now showing up in Isra-el. Ukraine has depleted its population of young men as well as its trust and good will with outside nations and their own soldiers.

      How much of Ukraine Russia will demand as reparations depends on how the conflict continues. If Z-man were overthrown today Russia would likely settle for Crimea, Kherson, Zaproizhzia, Donetsk, Luhansk, Kharkiv, Dnipropetrovsk, Mykolaiv, and Odessa. Poland will chew off Lviv and Volyn. Slovakia, Hungaria, and Romania will cast lots to see who gets Zakarpattia, Ivano-Frankivsk, and Chernivtski.

      If the conflict continues, Russia will take (not demand – TAKE) more.

      Oh, and “Thanks” to FJB.

      • Islander October 9, 2023 at 11:15 am #

        “How much of Ukraine Russia will demand as reparations”

        I don’t think Russia will demand “reparations.”

        After all, most of Ukraine will be reincorporated into the RF.

        So, that will be that.

        Western corporations who already started feeding on the living corpse of Ukr might be the ones tempted to ask for reparations. But since the sales to therm were illegal under UKr law, they probably will be laughed out of the room and won’t even go there. Instead they will try to make deals with the new landlord, who probably will say, Nyet.

        • Paula D October 9, 2023 at 11:29 am #

          The squeals of anguish you hear from the Congress and the media are Monsanto, Cargill, et. al., channeling their rage through their employees.

          How dare Russia stop the corruption and profits!

          • DaveO907 October 9, 2023 at 11:50 am #

            And Ukraine is the Prize for massive hectarage, one of the diminishing places on Earth (outside U.S. and Canada) they can splooge with glyphosate without reservation.
            Russia outlawed such a number of years ago.

          • Heartlander October 9, 2023 at 2:29 pm #

            DaveO907

            Sorry, but I can’t find anything about Russia banning glyphosate, although numerous other countries have:

            carlsonattorneys.com/news-and-update/banning-roundup

            However, Russia has banned GMOs, which are another big Monsanto project. (I think that perhaps that is the ban you were thinking of.)

            Back to Ukraine: I thought I read somewhere that Monsanto was the biggest single landowner in Ukraine, though I could be remembering wrong.

          • Paula D October 9, 2023 at 2:50 pm #

            GMOs are genetically modified to be able to withstand glyphosate. That is their only modification.

            Most glyphosate in the US is used on GMO crops.

            The farmer comes and dumps glyphosate over the fields and plants the GMO seeds the same day.

            Over the next few days every plant in the field dies, and then about a week later, the GMO seeds sprout.

            So it is connected.

          • Soul Forensics October 9, 2023 at 8:32 pm #

            Monsanto was bought out by Bayer several years ago.

        • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 11:29 am #

          Agree with your assessment. Russia will take enough to protect its border and the oil country around the Caspian Sea. They learned from USSR days that the SSRs were an economic deadweight. No more, that is why Putin will not continue to take territory, contrary to the NATO myth.

      • Paula D October 9, 2023 at 11:27 am #

        Agree. Why would Russia nuke Ukraine? It’s about to incorporate most of it, and will live next door to the rest.

        Why would they nuke their own country? That’s like thinking they bomb their own people, or shell their own nuclear power plant.

        Oh……wait. That’s what most Americans believe. Never mind.

        • Anthea October 11, 2023 at 3:48 am #

          @ Paula D:

          I think everyone recognizes that Ukraine’s agricultural land is far too valuable to nuke. Monsanto and Blackrock sure as heck don’t want it nuked–and neither does Russia. I hope Russia takes over the whole place and kicks out Monsanto, Blackrock, and the rest.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 11:13 pm #

            They already nuked their own territory near Pripyat.

      • King of Comedy October 9, 2023 at 11:43 am #

        Re: the use of nukes in Ukraine

        The chief manufactured product of the United States these days is perpetual victimhood. Shells and military hardware, not so much.

        Ukraine is barely hanging on and the US and NATO cupboards are already bare. The ass-clowns that run the Pentagon will now have a difficult dilemma: to allot that meager stash of what’s left in the dusty military warehouses to either Ukraine or Israel and I think it’s pretty clear that Ukraine going down is not even in the same universe as Israel being overrun by Islamic vermin.

        By early spring at the latest, Ukraine will have been bled white and have no military hardware to give to a virtually non-existent army. Game, set, match.

        • Ron Anselmo October 9, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

          You are correct, sir.

          • Ron Anselmo October 9, 2023 at 12:46 pm #

            The Pentagon will ghost Ukraine. ” Sorry you haven’t heard from us. We changed our number, and we lost all our contacts”.

      • Wizard of the Saddle October 10, 2023 at 10:18 am #

        Russia will ultimately re-absorb Ukraine. They are about as different as Germans & Austrians or as Americans & Canadians.

        Differences exist for sure, but the commonalities are greater. Not that hard to integrate if the larger country subsumes the other.

        • BackRowHeckler October 13, 2023 at 6:19 am #

          Maybe the eastern 1/3. The remainder will go back to Poland & Lithuania.

  10. Miss Demeanor October 9, 2023 at 10:08 am #

    Don’t believe anything you see or think.
    Horrific videos that have emotional, dramatic musical soundtracks are produced professionally to cause an intended emotion in you.
    The paraglider videos are likely not pertinent to this event.
    The apartment building exploding is likely not pertinent to this event.
    You are meant to feel outrage and you aren’t human if you don’t.
    This is the tail wagging the dog.

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    • Alfred October 9, 2023 at 10:14 am #

      Yes – what you said…

      Personally, if I had the talent, I’d produce a really slick meme of an Israeli F-16 being shot down by a guy with a fan strapped to his back.

      • Ron Anselmo October 9, 2023 at 10:25 am #

        Shot down with a slingshot.

        • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 2:36 pm #

          Even better.

    • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 10:15 am #

      It is all emotion triggering
      Children kidnapped
      Women abused.

      Average people slaughtered on a day’s drive.

      Israeli tanks bombed and soldiers shot wouldn’t move the needle.

      • Rowdypiglet October 9, 2023 at 2:10 pm #

        @Avatar, The problem is not that it is emotion driven. Anyone who is not emotionally moved by the sights we’ve seen – children being abused and corpses desecrated amid demonic laughter – has no human feelings.

        The problem is that we cannot know for certain whether anything we see is true or real; everything is manipulated within a web of lies. When we are consistently unable to determine what is reality and what is not, our ability to use reason is undermined to the point of being entirely unreliable.

        • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 3:06 pm #

          My point is that they created a false flag by algorithm.

          What images and scenarios will generate the most sympathetic responses?

          People like you.
          Innocents (young women, children, families)
          People having fun (concert goers)

          This tragedy is a blatant attempt to sway support.

          Visceral reactions.

          Again, soldiers or religious looking settlers being killed would have done nothing.
          Not even a headline.

          They need dumb schmuck Joe Evangelical seeing people like them dying.

          Done
          I’m creeping death

          • Rowdypiglet October 9, 2023 at 3:58 pm #

            @Avatar, I don’t think we’re in disagreement. I was just pointing out that when this kind of manipulation goes on long enough, even the most rational among us become infected to some degree. Of course, the most emotional and least thoughtful are the first to succumb.

          • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 4:16 pm #

            My emotional response:

            I cannot believe they are sacrificing these poor people to support some maniac’s existential crisis.
            He wants to be the next great heralded leader in the Israeli pantheon.

            The hated prime minister who, against all odds, and all knives out, finally pacified (leveled) the region from Gaza to Razavi Khorasan

        • Wizard of the Saddle October 10, 2023 at 10:23 am #

          Indeed. At least before newspapers and electronic media were invented people could take things at face value because everything we knew depended on eyewitnesses and 100% of the human race was satisfied to believe the evidence of their own eyes.

          Only “eyewitness TESTIMONY” was subject to doubt because liars have been with us always.

          Today, the liars have dispensed with feeble eyewitnesses as their foils of choice and have moved on to A.I.

      • Heartlander October 9, 2023 at 2:45 pm #

        I agree. There is nothing I would put past the adherents of “The Religion of Peace” (TM) — after all, Muhammad himself was a pedophile, rapist and mass murderer — nevertheless, I am not the sucker I was twenty years ago.

        One has to be pretty obtuse to have not learned by now that the Deep State and Big Media are joined at the hip, and they do nothing but brazenly manipulate. Emotion-generating images and film footage are their #1 go-to tool, as we saw with the Covid psy-op. For me, now, EVERYTHING is a psy-op until proven otherwise.

        Call me hard-hearted, but I’m doing my best to block whatever emotions the images blanketing the news are supposed to generate, as well as blocking out the images themselves. (It helps that I don’t have TV.) Sociopaths may lack normal human emotion themselves, but man oh man, are they expert in manipulating OTHER, normal people’s emotions. As much as I can, I’m denying them access.

        • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 3:15 pm #

          Yaldaboath appeared in a great flame
          It wanted the Pharoah to witness the evil it could conjure. Many plagues
          For freedom
          Such are the deals with the devil
          And the deals are never quite done

    • Miss Demeanor October 9, 2023 at 10:59 am #

      “The interesting thing about the crime of genocide:
      If you don’t get rid of the entire target group, you haven’t actually committed genocide.
      If you are successful at genocide, there is no one left to file a complaint!”
      Kurt Vonnegut on the Bangladesh genocide

      • buckeyeman October 9, 2023 at 11:14 am #

        I heard that the Erie People filed a grievance against the Iroquois Nation. Apparently the US Supreme Court rejected their “claim” because it lacked “standing” and also because as indigenous persons, the Iroquois are not capable of genocide. Only whites can be guilty of this crime. Besides, the Erie people no longer exist.

        • Islander October 9, 2023 at 3:00 pm #

          ” Besides, the Erie people no longer exist.”

          so who filed the claim?

          • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 4:18 pm #

            Some white schmuck with 1.7% Native American ancestry per 23 and Me.

            AKA
            Gary Karparchuk from Oswego ?

      • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 11:30 am #

        Winners write the history books.

        Losers push up daisies.

      • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 12:04 pm #

        The Bangladeshi Muslims moved to Burma and started raping women and setting meditating monks on fire. The Burmese stomped on them. And what did the West do?

        Took the Bangladeshi side. Madness. The Deshis need to be pushed into the sea. Burma is for the Burmese.

        • malthuss October 9, 2023 at 1:35 pm #

          how do u know all this stuff?

        • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 4:19 pm #

          I always knew that meditating was sleeping seated.

      • Wizard of the Saddle October 10, 2023 at 10:25 am #

        Well….in fairness, some folks have made pretty good attempts at it.

    • benr October 9, 2023 at 12:08 pm #

      Pallywood.

  11. bobfitz03 October 9, 2023 at 10:14 am #

    More chaos. With even more chaos is on the way.

    The beast will not go quietly. But, the beast will go eventually. How many bodies get thrown on the pyre on the way out the door? Only God and the Devil know.

  12. draupnir October 9, 2023 at 10:18 am #

    “Kill them all and let God sort them out.” Pope Innocent III

    • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 10:39 am #

      Aha!

      God?

      If we just let the Shias and the Jews duke it out to completion, we will finally know whose side God is on. Tongue in cheek.

      After all, the real stupidity of this man-made fiasco we call religion is the fact that we are fighting to the death over the same God, Jesus,Yahweh, Allah, the same God that has provided us with the spiritual tools to create Heaven on earth.

      God, You are wasting your time.

      • Anthea October 11, 2023 at 3:51 am #

        @ JohnAZ:

        Nobody is fighting over religion. They’re fighting over territory.

    • Freddie October 9, 2023 at 12:39 pm #

      I have never heard of Pope Innocent III having said that.

      “Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius – Kill them all for the Lord knoweth them that are His”. – Attributed to Arnaud Amalric by Caesarius of Heisterbach twenty years after the massacre at Beziers.

    • tuco22 October 9, 2023 at 1:04 pm #

      That was Max von Sydow’s (the devil in the movie) line in the movie Needful Things, when the Baptists and Catholics, I believe, were literally fighting each other in the street.

      • tuco22 October 9, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

        That book is the most accurate description of how Satan works I’ve ever come across. Evil most often doesn’t come at you like gangbusters, like in the horror movies. It’s far more subtle (Yeah, hath God said?).

        • Islander October 9, 2023 at 3:01 pm #

          Satan works through deceit.

  13. badberries October 9, 2023 at 10:19 am #

    Imagine being a young Palestinian lad living within earshot of the music…night ..after ..night.

    Your night won’t be spent cavorting with young women. Your night will be spent sleeping on the dirt floor of your family hut listening to the sounds of the people in the next room making another baby.

    You’ll be up at dawn to fetch water at the pump (if the Israel has turned the electricity on). Once the cistern is filled, your day will be spent listening to the music at a festival you’ll never attend.

    I’d be pissed too.

    • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 10:47 am #

      Or a young Jewish lad waiting to see where the next rocket is going to come from, waiting to see when he is going to be called up to fight terrorists, willing to die to protect the folks at home.

      This one goes both ways.

      Jarek, do you catch the similarities to the USA in this, the divisions of the haves and have-nots and the supposed inability of the Have-nots to compete with the Haves? Is this war just a precursor to a world wide, even the US, surge by the Have-nots to steal with violence from the Haves.

      If so, it will just be history repeating itself, AGAIN.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 10:58 am #

        John, we have seen Barack Obama busy sowing the seed for this in America.

        What ways have they NOT sought to divide us?

        I saw this post from Scott Adams, which says it all, succinctly:

        “Israel is a preview of America in the sense that one group has been “educated” to think the other group has their stuff and needs to give it back.

        That can only go in one direction.”

        https://x.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1711004053445202233?s=20

        • Islander October 9, 2023 at 11:10 am #

          ““Israel is a preview of America in the sense that one group has been “educated” to think the other group has their stuff and needs to give it back.”

          I don’t see the relevance of that comment.

          Is Adams saying that the Palestinians have been “educated” to think the other group has their stuff?

          This is not a case of propaganda or “being educated.”

          The other group—the Zionists— does have their stuff. And they want it all. You can even learn this from the MSM.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 11:18 am #

            See?

          • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 11:37 am #

            Think reparations, absolutely no justification.

            Slavery has been gone for almost 200 years and no Black person today has been affected by it.

            One group has been educated by itself, self justifying its want for the Haves stuff.

            The Haves will never give it back and are energetic enough to fight for it.

            Until the wimpy Liberal White American political vote seeker was invented.

          • benr October 9, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

            Palestinians have most certainly been indoctrinated to hate Jews.
            The people now calling themselves Palestinians are transplants from other areas.

          • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

            The Blacks could never had produced any of the stuff they want “back” from us.

            The Palis were food exporters at least. Black farming is subsistence as they are a stone age people.

            Beryl is a Communist with no connection whatsoever to her own nation and people. She identifies not as American, White, or Christian – but as a Woman. Thus she’s for all Women. And of course the downtrodden in general. She believes in “fairness”. That means Communism.

            Radical Feminism and Communism? The go together very well. In the new American Communism of Woke, they are almost the same. With the Rad Fems as dissenters now because women aren’t valued over the Trans-Women.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

            Jesus, Jarek!

            What are you on about?

          • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2023 at 2:36 pm #

            Where the hell did you get that from, Jarek?

          • Islander October 9, 2023 at 3:03 pm #

            “See?”

            OK, smarty-pants!

            Who told the Jews that Palestine belonged to them? Since two thousand years ago?

            Answer: Fanatical Talmudists.

            See?

          • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 3:15 pm #

            Hahahahahahaha.

          • Wizard of the Saddle October 10, 2023 at 10:30 am #

            Ridiculous. Go back and re-read the multitude of posts re-affirming that only greater force determines who has a current enforceable claim on any piece of terra firma.

            Islander – you are stuck in de jure thinking when de facto is all that truly matters.

          • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 12:53 pm #

            BRH: Have you been asleep? Did you miss her “convenience” post anent abortion? She’s a rad fem, that means “us against them” – and her us is transnational, all women everywhere. You’re one of the thems.

            How can such people be Americans? Mary scoffed at the very notion. And oh yes, they can identify in a provisional sense with other nations or groups – as long as it puts White men in a bad light. Thus the founding of America was evil since it disenfranchised the Indians.

            Wake up, please.

        • tuco22 October 9, 2023 at 1:07 pm #

          Yes, I think back to his “you didn’t build this” speech.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 1:24 pm #

            He was trying to take a page from Liz Warren, from back when she used to say things that made sense.

            She was talking about how these yuge corporations owed much of their success the fact that they were in a country that provided the roads, bridges, and other infrastructure that allowed them to grow.

            She meant that they didn’t do it alone.

            One can argue with her point of view, but Obama bastardized and corrupted it into something ridiculous and insulting, because he’s a stupid and hateful commie leech.

    • Paula D October 9, 2023 at 11:34 am #

      Dirt floor? Have you even seen the homes of the Palestinians?

      You must be thinking of Pine Ridge.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 12:24 pm #

        The Jews took all their floors. Then they poisoned the wells.

        • malthuss October 9, 2023 at 1:36 pm #

          what did they do to USA? to us?

          • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 3:16 pm #

            IDK. We seems to have all our floors.

      • badberries October 9, 2023 at 3:01 pm #

        Speaking of Pine Ridge, If “Reparations” are indeed owing, the Native Americans (“First Nations” in Canada) are the only ethnic group that I believe have a legitimate claim. The rest are “gimmes”.

        Have you seen the inside of your average Palestinian home? I’m sure it’s Baronial Splendor. I’ve only been through the slums of Mumbai and Calcutta and Delhi and Ciudad Mexico and South L.A. and Zuni Pueblo and Browning Montana, interesting to visit but you wouldn’t want to live there…in any of ’em.

        • canuckster10 October 9, 2023 at 6:28 pm #

          Browning, Montana. Drove through there on my way to Glacier. I’m glad I had enough gas to get to GNP.

          • badberries October 9, 2023 at 7:12 pm #

            canuckster10, Browning is the “nice” part of the Blackfoot res. I have many friends in that neighborhood, nice people, they just don’t give a shat about manicured lawns and sidewalks. They have short lives.

          • Blackbird October 10, 2023 at 5:51 pm #

            Browning, Montana: holder of the world record 24-hour temperature drop. From 100 F on January 23, 1916 to -56 F on January 24, 1916.

            Sounds like the kind of place where you could have a nice lawn – if it were made of stone.

          • badberries October 11, 2023 at 10:15 am #

            Blackbird, I was living Choteau, Mt. (just south of the Blackfoot Res.) February morn in 1989 when I went to work, temp was 63 degrees, the next morn it was -35.
            The winds in that 24 hour stretch were 125+ mph and ripped the windows off of my apartment

        • Wizard of the Saddle October 10, 2023 at 10:32 am #

          Just say “injuns.”

          More succinct.

          Everyone will understand to whom it is that you are referring to.

          • Q. Shtik October 10, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

            Everyone will understand to whom it is that you are referring to. – Wizard

            ===========

            Wiz, the word “to” before the word “whom” makes the word “to” at the end of the sentence not only unnecessary but in fact incorrect.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 10:49 pm #

            Injuns = Indians

            Cajuns = Acadians

            Cajun cuisine = pretty good.

          • Ron Anselmo October 12, 2023 at 12:23 am #

            Zazzy – Agree. watch how real Cajun cuisine is prepared, in the movie Southern Comfort, starring Powers Boothe, Fred Ward & Keith Carradine.

            The movie was out in 1981, but I think the Cajuns still prepare their food the same way – or will be going back to preparing it that way in the very near future.

      • Islander October 9, 2023 at 3:04 pm #

        Not all Palestinians are Bedouins, you know.

    • Anthea October 9, 2023 at 9:33 pm #

      @ badberries:

      I will never understand why so many people think a humble home is a great misfortune, or that a simple pleasure like pumping water from a well or cistern is a great misery.

      If it were me, I’d be pissed that I had to listen to a bunch of shitty music.

      Actually, that’s the way I felt (me and the whole neighborhood) when they opened a bar almost across the street from my apartment building (back in the 70s), and the loud music went on all night. My abode was pretty humble at the time, and the bed was a Murphy bed, though I did have running water, but I can’t imagine being pissed because I wasn’t across the street at the bar.

  14. cowbell81 October 9, 2023 at 10:20 am #

    You know, Biden recently handed over that $6 billion to Iran in exchange for a few hostages. I guess the Iranian regime is putting that money to some good quick use, as we can all see now. Thanks Uncle Joe!

    • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 11:00 am #

      Oh no, cowbell, they aren’t using that money for terrorism. They are using that other money that they don’t have to spend on other stuff now.

      • draupnir October 9, 2023 at 11:15 am #

        They are using the armament Biden left for them in Afganistan. Thanks, Joe.

        • OG October 9, 2023 at 12:17 pm #

          President Joe: “You’re welcome. Cha-ching, baby!”

        • mary.m October 9, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

          That, and a sizeable chunk of the 70% of arms sent to Ukr that never made it to the front.

          Videos abound if it being sold for cash, still in crates, complete with user manuals. Not to mention screen caps of dark web ads…

          • tuco22 October 9, 2023 at 1:10 pm #

            It doesn’t surprise me. Nobody ever wonders how these people get their weapons and seemingly endless supply of ammunition. It has to be stolen from the military first and then sold to the highest bidder. And this has to be happening on a consistent basis. And if it is, then it has to be facilitated by higher ups, because sooner or later it would be noticed, Just sayin’,

  15. oldandtired October 9, 2023 at 10:26 am #

    JHK: “ while millions of sketchy mutts from here, there, and everywhere in the world scuttle over our border with Mexico and decant across our fruited plains — with assistance, you understand, from our own border officials”

    Yes, it would appear that the US border with Mexico has become an Administrative border. Not a physical barrier to entry, not a legal barrier to entry, but just a line on a map.

    How the current America projects power.

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    • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 11:20 am #

      Kari Lake has made the point that men fleeing war bring women and children with them, while men going to war leave them behind.

      • Islander October 9, 2023 at 3:05 pm #

        Good point.

      • jgalt October 10, 2023 at 12:06 pm #

        And that is why questions should be asked, and investigated, as to how much Biden, and others, have received from the cartels to turn over control of our Southern border. Since the cartels are making billions of $ in drugs, sex slaves, and fees, surely they paid out at least 20-30 million in bribes to Biden and others. Gonna be a very bad time in the U.S. when these invaders decide to attack Americans, likely with support from the Biden administration, as was the case with antifa and blm, who could be expected to join in. Surely have to suspend the election getting rid of Joe and Kamala in the face of so much violence and turmoil. Remember the alleged 20,000 Chinese men, all with the same tattoos and hair cuts, as in the military, that have crossed our border. How and why were they allowed to leave China and what is their purpose? Joe, being the recipient of so much cash from china likely knows.

    • Paula D October 9, 2023 at 11:35 am #

      The border is where they get the tickets for the rest of the trip.

      • BackRowHeckler October 9, 2023 at 2:40 pm #

        Tickets, cell phone, cash stipend, transportation to a city of your choice, food vouchers, medical card, mail in ballot, and application for a DL.

        • elysianfield October 9, 2023 at 3:27 pm #

          BRH,
          And…and hopefully a map to direct them to Connecticut…the west coast of the map is blank…

          “Here be dragons…”

  16. Disaffected October 9, 2023 at 10:29 am #

    Cheer up, Jim! It’s war time again and *it’s the most wonderful time of the year!* All of our other problems will soon be eclipsed by our wonderful President ‘SloJo’ Biden acting all Commander in Chiefy, and all will be right with the world again!

    • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 10:32 am #

      You’re right, it’s Prime Day Redux

  17. Zoltar October 9, 2023 at 10:37 am #

    I think I can remember when America was an energetic Can Do Nation – at least, that’s what we were told in Civics Class, but it has surely been a while.

    On the eve of the collapse of the Soviet Union – a third of a century ago – the idiots, I mean expert analysts, of the CIA estimated that the Soviet economy had perhaps grown larger than that of the US. Turns out, it was about a third the size.

    More recently, their contribution to our national security was the declaration that the Russian economy is so feeble that if we start a proxy war in Ukraine it will collapse, Putin will be deposed, and all will be Sweetness and Light.

    My modest proposal is that we have Zelensky confer Ukrainian citizenship upon all employees of the CIA and FBI and put them on the front line in the current failed conflict. Then re-staff those agencies with poor souls who have been sleeping under bridges and give them coloring books instead of computers.

    In today’s Washington there is no way that the agencies can be officially dissolved, but that would at least prevent them from doing further harm.

    • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 10:53 am #

      Here is an idea. Send all the illegals to Ukraine while they wait to be made citizens or get green cards. Successful survival of two years in Ukraine fighting for Z means citizenship.

      What an idea!!!!!! Wow!

      Hey, it worked with 1As in Vietnam, and they were already citizens, all 58000 of them that did not return.

      • Wizard of the Saddle October 10, 2023 at 10:41 am #

        Wokesters get to go first! They are such rabid Ukrainian patriots, after all.

        Hand every fifth one of them a rifle and 5 rounds of ammo like the Russians did with reinforcements at Stalingrad in the movie “Enemy at the Gates.”

        Give the ones without rifles and ammo the same combat instructions as were provided in the film too…

    • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 12:13 pm #

      They told themselves that the Russian economy was only as the size of that ofTexas. I think they were wrong about that.

      • Zoltar October 9, 2023 at 1:19 pm #

        Those clowns are mighty well paid for pulling consistently-wrong numbers out of their ass.

        You might as well ask your plumber.

      • malthuss October 9, 2023 at 1:37 pm #

        maybe their finished goods economy, NOT for raw materials.

    • Blackbird October 10, 2023 at 6:03 pm #

      Is the CIA filled with “idiots”, or with liars?

      These are the same guys that told us that we faced a ‘missile gap” with the Soviets back in the ’50’s. There was a gap, but the Ruskies were on the low end of it.

      I don’t think the Ukraine war was ever about taking down Putin. (Or about Putin trying to conquer the Ukraine – and then probably the rest of Europe.) I think it is about taking down the US and our puppets in western Europe.

  18. Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 10:37 am #

    I wasn’t aware at first, when this atrocity occurred, the significance of the date.

    SOMEBODY certainly understood, and the idea that they could be caught flat-footed on October 6, 2023 is ludicrous.

  19. Opie October 9, 2023 at 10:39 am #

    What scares me the most is the same thing that scares the bejeezus out of me in Ukraine, and that’s the ignorant mass of Americans with no knowledge of the history of the region to profess to know the answers which amount to the USA butting in with full moral outrage. Also, if you think the Mossad had no forewarning of this then you must believe Epstein committed suicide.

    • OG October 9, 2023 at 12:11 pm #

      if you think the Mossad had no forewarning of this then you must believe Epstein committed suicide.

      That is an interesting hypothesis. A corollary to the GLT.

      ***
      For those online now that are unfamiliar withe the GLT (Mondays and Fridays host much larger crowds here at CFN), here it is:

      For each of these 10 big historical events, score a 1 if you believe that it was a black op and a 0 if you believe the official story.

      GLT:
      JFK ~ 1963
      USS Liberty ~ 1967
      MLK ~ 1968
      RFK ~ 1968
      OKC ~ 1995
      9/11 ~ 2001
      ’08 Crash/Housing Bubble/Hank-Paulson Treasury Looting ~ 2008
      Boston Marathon ~ 2013
      Vegas Turkey-Shoot ~ 2017
      Nashville Christmas ~ 2021

      What is your GLT score?

      • oldandtired October 9, 2023 at 12:35 pm #

        What number do I use if I believe incompetency was the blame root cause?

        • OG October 9, 2023 at 12:48 pm #

          0, of course. Good old-fashioned American incompetence by our bumbling (but loveable) knuckleheads is always the official story.

      • Alfred October 9, 2023 at 1:16 pm #

        10

        • OG October 9, 2023 at 3:58 pm #

          Thank you for sharing your GLT score with us, Alfred. Obviously you know what’s what.

          • Alfred October 13, 2023 at 8:59 am #

            Are you calling me gullible with tongue in cheek?

      • tuco22 October 9, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

        What does GLT stand for? My score is 10.

        • OG October 9, 2023 at 3:55 pm #

          GLT = Gullibility Litmus Test

          I thought that you’d be top-end, t22. You know what’s what.

      • Ron Anselmo October 9, 2023 at 2:08 pm #

        OG –

        7/7 – London Train Bombings
        8/8 – Lahaina
        10/10 – ?

        • OG October 9, 2023 at 3:56 pm #

          Good point, Ron. Hopefully there’ll be nothing tomorrow (10/10) as there is already too many balls in the air.

    • tuco22 October 9, 2023 at 1:13 pm #

      Is everyone going to jettison their Ukrainian flags for Palestinian flags, now?

      • cowbell81 October 9, 2023 at 2:56 pm #

        Indeed, I am sure this is going to happen. Or maybe Israeli flags will be taken up by the Collective West.

        Zelensky has to be completely beside himself over this turn of events. How is he going to get his media attention and stay in the spotlight? How is he going to be getting his money to support his livelihood?

        • Blackbird October 10, 2023 at 6:10 pm #

          Israel, the one banner that the entire US can unite behind.

        • BackRowHeckler October 13, 2023 at 6:24 am #

          I think Z is pretty flush by now, as is most of his cronies. How much more cash does he need? His wife spent $1.4 million on jewelry during a shopping spree in Manhattanm and this is not to mention their compounds in Cyprus & Miami Beach.

      • Heartlander October 9, 2023 at 2:58 pm #

        Well, but in The Swamp, the rah-rah-Ukraine people are also rah-rah-Israel people. So it’s probably got some people feeling schizo. I’m waiting for someone to do one of those memes with the sweaty guy at the control board trying to figure out which red button to press.

  20. Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 10:42 am #

    New York City’s mayor has come around and declared his position that the US border should remain open.

    Does that sound right? A mayor declaring that our nation’s border should remain wide open, contrary to existing law?

    Watch somebody say that the 10th Amendment gives the mayors the right.

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    • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 10:55 am #

      Insanity, right?

      Expecting different results?

      • Hated American October 9, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

        Now that probably IS incompetence. And he blathers this while whining about having to house and feed all of his illegal pets, and wanting to dump them outside his urban paradise.

  21. D from OR October 9, 2023 at 10:48 am #

    My entire life (age 55) has been a series of news reports of incursions, scuffles and fights between Israel and Palastine. Over and over.

    Like many, I don’t give a flying f*ck. Neither is a side I can get behind and it’s far away. Like the majority of Americans, I just don’t care. Tired of these people.

    The “tricked-out pickup trucks and para-gliders” means it is likely a CIA backed operation. They like the flash. Oh, and the fact that it was a “surprise” ….sure, just this one time Mossad was asleep.

    That troll Netanyahu had the entire country protesting his Supreme Court gambit a couple of weeks ago. He’s loathed. Then this happens. Are we supposed to ignore that fact? Please.

    This ploy because the passion for Ukraine is in the down the drain so maybe this will work. Distraction.

    Fear of this spilling over (as if that is possible) is what this operation is supposed to do. You know the paragliders…seems a little too theatrical for my taste. It’s all theater or if you prefer bullsh*t.

    Also, the idea that low IQ migrants can be organized to do anything is cartoonish at best. Note how well the FBI attempts to organize homegrown dum-dums works out (Hey! Let’s kidnap the governor!).

    The Congress, Janet Yellen and her bond problem, and all funny money manipulations are hitting that 7% interest rate and the end of LIBOR (no more laundering…sorry Ukraine.) but that doesn’t mean the economy suffers especially since investors all flowing into $USD.

    • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 11:02 am #

      D from OR

      How many really stupid things does the Democratic led Deep State in Dc have to do before you become I from OR or R from OR?

      This time a Democratic led support for Iran through Obama, Biden and Kerry to prevent a bomb development in Iran that has already happened. Nuts!!!

      • draupnir October 9, 2023 at 11:25 am #

        There are a great many people, like my mother, who are Democrats because their parents were Democrats and put no more thought into it than that. My mother voted for Biden, by absentee ballot, as she is too feeble to go to the polls anymore. She said she did it for her father. She’ll do it again next year.

        • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 12:15 pm #

          She should say that he moves her hand in the voting booth as with the ouija board.

          • Hated American October 9, 2023 at 1:43 pm #

            LOL. I have a close elderly female relative who always votes for the best looking. She can’t help it. Even at 80+.

          • cowbell81 October 9, 2023 at 2:57 pm #

            Sex sells. If the Dems put up a busty young blonde to run for President, she would probably clean the floor with her opponents.

          • Ron Anselmo October 9, 2023 at 3:23 pm #

            Cowbell – all the Democrats have are middle-to-late age frumpy women, or younger blue or purple-haired women.

            All the busty young blonds are in DJT’s camp – he does it on purpose to trigger them. It drives them crazy. Have you seen his women lawyers? Every single one is a smoke show.

            DJT had Kaliegh McEnany – FJB had Raggedy Ann, and now the Haitian Lesbian Moptop – a “historic figure” in her own words. I rest my case.

    • SteveK9 October 10, 2023 at 11:05 am #

      Unfortunately for you, your rulers do care … a LOT. Janet Yellen is one, for example.

  22. cowbell81 October 9, 2023 at 10:54 am #

    While the world burns and crumbles, Uncle Joey hosts a BBQ for White House staff and family:

    A pool reporter overheard a band playing from the White House lawn while pro-Palestine protesters picketed outside the gates, chanting ‘Free Palestine’ and demanding the US cut aid to Israel.

    The reporter questioned why they could hear the band, and a spokesperson replied: ‘The President and First Lady are hosting a BBQ for White House Executive Residence staff and their families.

    Biden has made no public statement on the attack Saturday other than confirmation of a phone call between himself and Israeli PM Benjamin Netanyahu – and news of the barbecue triggered outrage online.

    ‘At least FOUR Americans are presumed dead in Israel and Joe Biden is too busy having a BBQ party at the White House to care,’ podcaster Joey Mannarino raged online. ‘That guy is truly sick.’

    Enjoy those ribs Grandpappy!

    • malthuss October 9, 2023 at 11:16 am #

      Human nature, history repeating, Nero fiddles while Rome burned, yes?

    • tuco22 October 9, 2023 at 1:16 pm #

      Well, most of the American public won’t care about that, anyway. Except, of course, the families of the dead Americans, and no disrespect intended here, but they’ll likely vote democrat in the next election, anyway, having been convinced that all this is Trump’s fault. I’m surprised that isn’t already being bandied about.

    • Blackbird October 10, 2023 at 6:41 pm #

      The Big Guy ain’t there for the ribs…

  23. Islander October 9, 2023 at 11:03 am #

    Lots of funny formulations here, as usual, except . . .
    One thing that is not appreciated by me in JHK’s post is “who carried home hundreds of nubile young women to have sport with, . . .”
    Huh? WTF?
    Evidence? Projection? Good writing?
    Come on..
    The previous post’s gratuitous little sexual reference also added nothing. You do not have to go to the vulgar side. You have plenty of better ideas.
    My 2 c/ worth. Take or leave it.

    • OG October 9, 2023 at 12:02 pm #

      Rape, pillage and plunder. The Big Three.

      Now, no land is beyond my claim
      When land is seized in the people’s name
      By evil men who rob and maim
      If war is hell, I’m not to blame

      – Don McLean

    • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 12:17 pm #

      Is Shani Louk the new Anne Frank?

    • megabeth October 9, 2023 at 2:06 pm #

      Not sure there isn’t an aspect of war that is not vulgar.

      • Islander October 9, 2023 at 3:09 pm #

        Congtratulations! A triple, or is it a quadruple, negative!

        Finally, clarity.

    • Heartlander October 9, 2023 at 3:06 pm #

      There is ALWAYS rape in war.
      And in the case of Islam, Muhammad himself condoned it.
      I certainly don’t believe we’re being told the truth about this whole operation, but it’s not as if rape of “infidels” by Muhammad’s followers is in the realm of the impossible.

    • elysianfield October 9, 2023 at 3:35 pm #

      Islander,

      It is obviously the Black Schwanz Event we have been expecting.

    • Wizard of the Saddle October 10, 2023 at 10:48 am #

      So touchy. It’s simple truth. Raiding war parties of young horny men have carried off the nubile young women of the vanquished enemy men to have their way with since time immemorial.

      This is why females are hypergamous by nature. It is a survival mechanism they developed to cope with this possibility.

      • Ron Anselmo October 10, 2023 at 11:45 am #

        Hence the preoccupation with Instagram today – no girl wants to be left behind. Their social media and self-worth cred would be destroyed.

  24. JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 11:10 am #

    It is the end of WW2. The concentration camps have been discovered, and the USSR pogroms have started in Ukraine.

    There are remaining millions of Jews in Europe disenfranchised, like people without a country.

    The movie Exodus presented it well to the American public, but Leon Uris’ book was much more poignant.

    The Jews, as a group, basically sent out the message, we have had enough of this world that has thought to destroy us. They set their sites on the return to Jerusalem and Judea and made it happen.

    The liberal cowards of the world just cannot stand strength to be shown like that.

    • Disaffected October 9, 2023 at 11:15 am #

      John, John, John… If only it was that simple.

      • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 11:50 am #

        It was at the beginning. The Jews saw the weak administration the British were giving to Palestine and grabbed the chance to get back the “Land of milk and honey” promised them by God, in their eyes.

        Ships in the Med were loaded with Jews with no where to go. The Zionists gave them a target.

        Dis

        The Christians claim Judea as the home of Jesus and Christianity and tried to keep it Christian during the Crusades.

        The Muslims claim Judea as the launching point for Mohammed as he ascended to Heaven and took it from the Christians along with Africa and half of Spain.

        The Jews claim Judea because God gave it to them in the original Exodus.

        Who is right? Who is legally right? Who is morally right?

        Who is right in the sight of God, the ultimate judgement?

        I guess we might find out!

      • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 12:20 pm #

        A land without a people
        For a people without a land.

        Johnny likes! Cue in the song (all the verses!) When Johnny comes marching home from war….

        He identifies with them. Does he think that they identify with him? Oh folly!

        • malthuss October 9, 2023 at 2:29 pm #

          Oh stop you wildcard.

    • Phineas October 9, 2023 at 12:50 pm #

      Modern day Israel is about the size of the State of New Jersey and inhabited by 8 million Israelis.

      In the world today there are 51 Islamic nations inhabited by 1.6 billion Muslims.

      Perhaps the Arabs living in Gaza and the West Bank might consider reinventing their lives and emigrating to one of those 51 nations.

      The Israelis don’t have that choice.

      • OG October 9, 2023 at 1:03 pm #

        The world has 157 countries that are majority Christian. The world has more than 2.6 billion Christians.

        Using your logic, perhaps Christian Americans ought to emigrate and reinvent their lives as their country is over-ran with non-Christians, right?

        Goose/gander and all.

        • tuco22 October 9, 2023 at 1:22 pm #

          No, one is discussing ethnicity and the other religious belief. Besides, Christianity is supposed to be “exported” to the world. That’s what the Great Commission was all about.

      • Islander October 9, 2023 at 3:12 pm #

        “The Israelis don’t have that choice.”

        Oh, boy.

        Tell that to the would-be Rambos and cowboys from Brooklyn who populate the settlements in the Occupied Territories.

        Cue Beryl, up-thread.

        What you have been told since the cradle.

    • Anthea October 11, 2023 at 4:14 am #

      @ JohnAZ:

      “Exodus,” both the book and the movie, as well as all those 1960s Hollywood extravaganzas, like “The Ten Commandments” and “Ben Hur” were pure Hollywood propaganda.

  25. RD3 October 9, 2023 at 11:11 am #

    “I’ll tell you what will be an even bigger surprise, though: when some organized unit of those aforesaid mutts of unknown origin who snuck across our border sets off something like a dirty bomb in New York, Los Angeles, or Washington DC. Or takes over a nuclear power station. Or… well, I wouldn’t want to put any ideas in a bad actor’s head. But you get the picture, I’m sure.”

    While this is possible, its much more likely that our own masters do it to us.

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    • tuco22 October 9, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

      They’ll blame it on white supremacy.

      • tuco22 October 9, 2023 at 1:24 pm #

        Didn’t the Biden administration just officially designate Trump supporters as domestic terrorists?

      • RD3 October 9, 2023 at 1:56 pm #

        Probably. They’ll find a couple of low IQ rubes, of the type they entrapped into that little fiasco in Michigan.

  26. Warren October 9, 2023 at 11:13 am #

    The CIA missed it. Unless they didn’t….

    • Disaffected October 9, 2023 at 11:15 am #

      Unless they planned it.

      • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 11:52 am #

        Dis

        You tickled me a little with your statement.

        Do you think this incompetent federal government could ever plan the events that have happened?

        • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 12:22 pm #

          How did we predict the Russian pipeline being destroyed unless we planned it?

        • OG October 9, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

          They planned Lahaina 8/8. They planned JFK. They planned OKC and 9/11.

          They love that we think that they are incompetent boobs while history keeps spilling exactly where they pour.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 1:25 pm #

            Lahaina seems to have gone away fast.

          • Paula D October 9, 2023 at 1:35 pm #

            They dropped Lahaina like they dropped the anthrax attacks.

            That says something, in my book.

          • Socrates-Detroit October 12, 2023 at 12:11 am #

            “…history keeps spilling where they pour.”

            Well said OG! Best quote of the day, thank you!

        • mary.m October 9, 2023 at 12:33 pm #

          They are a one-trick pony. Planning mayhem is their one trick, & the one area in which they excel.

          • Paula D October 9, 2023 at 1:34 pm #

            Well, to be fair, they are also excellent at propaganda.

        • tuco22 October 9, 2023 at 1:25 pm #

          Not the whole government. Just a small group within it.

          • Hated American October 9, 2023 at 1:47 pm #

            No, pretty much the whole …. uh…”government”.

  27. DaveO907 October 9, 2023 at 11:16 am #

    “… One has to wonder, though, that even muscles and confidence might not be enough in the current situation — that moment of time in which we exist, as the Veep put it so. And yet, so many things are happening at once that it feels like someone up there is monkeying with time itself.”

    The Veep’s “moment of time” we observe are the years sped up to bring on ‘Idiocracy’ centuries ahead of the time in which it was portrayed.

    That much is clear now. Dreadfully so.

    “Shitake…” “Rosebud…”

  28. mitchellc October 9, 2023 at 11:19 am #

    Ah, once again the long train of complaints. Doesn’t anyone understand Rove?

    It’s nothing more than competition over scarce resources, no different than the millions of organisms, animal, plant or other, all locked in the same eternal death struggle.

    You are born, not by choice, but by dumb random luck, into this temporal existence. You may have seconds or years or nurturing to prepare you for the world, but then into the arena you go.

    Competition takes many forms, many focusing on primarily physical strength. But what of strategem, the talent of cunning and stealth, the ability to work in concert with others of equal ability and desire?

    This is where religion plays a huge part, either ecclesiastical or secular, truly the most profound, advanced weapon ever developed before or since.

    Hence the criticism, crying and complaining on exhibit here, there and everywhere. “Our government; we were lied to; the land of the free, home of the brave; etc” Anyone see a pattern?

    The top elite thinkers transcend religion, region, ethnicity, or any other superficial characteristic used to divide commoners againt themselves.

    If this is Israel’s 9/11, then that implies Jewish leadership sacrificed Jewish citizens in order to further advance their goals of power and control. It erodes the point about Ukraine’s Jewish leadership sacrificing Slavs, or USA Anlgo-Jewish leadership sacrificing heritage ‘Muricans.

    So, back to Rove: We are an empire. Nothing is sacred, no one is safe, religion or otherwise doesn’t protect you, citizens or foreigners alike; all are targets of conquest.

    If you get that, then everything makes perfect logical sense. Your challenge then is to either get in and play, escape to someplace not yet on the target list, or be stupid and wave your little flag.

    Maybe write some stern letters to your “representative”, complain and whine how the system is corrupt, and generally be unhappy as the residue of your childhood brainwashing confronts reality.

    • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 12:25 pm #

      Some say that Israelis got the call not to go to work on 9/11, but of course not Jewish Americans.
      Now they are willing to sacrifice even them, both with this and on a grand scale, with the Vax?

      Welcome to our Struggle!

      • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 1:24 pm #

        The second to last thing that Yahoo cares about are Israeli peaceniks.

        If settlers in payots and kippahs were killed nobody would care.

        Heck, people would most likely believe they deserve it.

        Yahoo would not sacrifice the pious, the traditional. He needs the zealot expansionists. The “settlers”

        So, secular or reformed Israelis were hung out to dry.

        Besides they look like you. Western, unbound, free, weak.

        • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 7:19 pm #

          Like me? Not you? Are you non-Western, bound, enslaved, strong?

          You are a projectionist.

          • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 7:59 pm #

            Not you, specifically, I mean the intended consumer of this psyop

  29. Yirgach October 9, 2023 at 11:45 am #

    Koyaanisqatsi – Hopi phrase/prophecy meaning “Life Out of Control”

    Title of a 1982 film produced by Francis Ford Coppola, music by Philip Glass. Incredible photography and music.

    httXX://watchdocumentaries.com/koyaanisqatsi/

    • badberries October 9, 2023 at 4:11 pm #

      yirgach, I always translated it to be “Life out of Balance”. I first watched it 1985.

      • Yirgach October 9, 2023 at 6:36 pm #

        badb,

        I found this at the end of the movie:

        Ko.yaa.nis.qatsi (from the Hopi language),n.

        1. Crazy life. 2. Life in turmoil. 3. Life out of balance. 4. Life disintegrating. 5. a state of life that calls for another way of living.

        Translation of the Hopi Prophecies sung in the film

        “If we dig precious things from the land, we will invite disaster.”

        “Near the Day of Purification, there will be cobwebs spun back and forth in the sky.”

        “A container of ashes might one day be thrown from the sky, which could burn the land and boil the oceans.”

        • badberries October 9, 2023 at 7:29 pm #

          yirgach, I spent time with Zuni Pueblo fire crews (wild fires). They invited me to visit the pueblo and stay awhile. The last thing I heard at night was laughter, the first thing I heard in the morning was laughter, they were happy people.
          They told me stories of where they came from and why they prayed every morning facing the sun.
          On a fire dispatch (B-4 me) one of their crewmen had been hit by lightening (KIA) everybody on the crew saw him get hit, but nobody on the crew had seen him pray that morning, strong incentive to the rest huh?
          In their belief system, if you get hit by lightening and nobody sees it, pretty soon the rains will come and wake you up. I told them that in my capacity as a Rep. of the the Govt. there were certain things I had to do if something like that happened so I had to know if there was a Shaman on the crew that could guide me, so I didn’t violate/insult any of their beliefs. That’s when my education really began. On long walks through the desert that they called home. I’m from the mountains so I was a stranger in a strange land, they had a name for everything and knew the purpose of all.

          • Yirgach October 12, 2023 at 7:29 pm #

            Thank you for that. Back in the mid 60’s I worked on a ranch near Cimarron NM. The landscape was just incredible.
            I remember hitchhiking to Raton to see the Mary Poppins movie…

  30. ATM October 9, 2023 at 11:49 am #

    Hobson’s choice: you can have no money… or you can have plenty of money that’s worthless.

    We do not have a choice. the solution will be thrust upon us and it will be worthless money.

    In the last Great Depression there were plenty of things to buy but nobody had any money.

    In the next Great Depression, everyone will have plenty of money, but it won’t buy anything.

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    • mary.m October 9, 2023 at 12:36 pm #

      Not quite, according to my mother. Her sole piece of wisdom was re the depression:

      “At first it was great because everything was so cheap.

      And then it was awful because the shelves were empty.”

    • tuco22 October 9, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

      I rather think this is the way things are going to go. Other commentaries I’ve read said the same thing. Everyone will continue to get what they’re getting, but it’ll become increasingly worthless. Hence, Joe’s recent announcement that billionaires ought to pay a 25% tax on their wealth.

      • Soul Forensics October 9, 2023 at 6:43 pm #

        Enter CBDC.

  31. RDQ October 9, 2023 at 11:51 am #

    “while millions of sketchy mutts from here, there, and everywhere in the world scuttle over our border with Mexico and decant across our fruited plains….”

    Copied word-for-word from page(s) 23 and 24 of “Fundamental Laws: A Report of the 68th Convocation of the Rose Cross Order.” (I.e. Rosicrucians).

    ” INTRODUCTION TO THE GREAT SEAL

    It is rather a strange and an unknown thing for one to write an introduction to a single chapter appearing in a book, but the conditions are so unusual as to warrant it.

    More than a year ago, Grace K. Morey, the author of the article, “The Great Seal of the United States and Its Mystic Significance,” prepared a sketch for a short primer of the Illuminati teachings, and in this sketch, as will by shown by the drawings, it was brought out that man is not only a threefold being, but that he is actually a four-fold being as well. In short, that when he has succeeded in reaching Soul Illumination, he is the completed Pyramid or true Triangle.

    If the student will give serious study to the article on the Seal of the United States, he will find that on the reverse side of the seal which is as yet uncut, there is to be found the Pyramid, but with the capstone as yet not placed, and thus he will see that the Philosophy of the Illuminati is the absolute and undeniable Philosophy upon which these United States are founded as is clearly indicated by our four-fold philosophy, and by the drawings of the reverse side of the United States seal.

    And thus it would appear that the Unseen Hierarchies which shaped the foundation of the great Republic which must some day rule the world, are the same Hierarchies which gave us the Soul Science Philosophy as taught by the Illuminati.

    And now let us look into the future, not far, but just beyond the line. We find that scholars condemn the design of the reverse side of the United States Seal, that it has never been cut but has remained hidden as though it were something to be ashamed of.

    However, though this appears the truth, it is not the truth. The reason why it has never been cut is because the time is not yet as the cap-stone has not yet been set.

    And what is this cap-stone? My reader, prepare for a shock.

    When Atlantis ruled the world, that which is now America was connected with Egypt by what is now Mexico, and in Mexico, in the territory of the Yucatan, there is a Pyramid in which the Fire Philosophers worshipped God as Divine Fire and Life in like manner as did the Initiates of Egypt, for the two were then one.

    America is not complete, and will not be complete, cannot be complete, until Mexico is again part of America as she was in the long ago, and when Mexico is once again a part of the United States, then will the cap-stone have been set on the Pyramid and the reverse side of the United States seal will be cut.

    Thus you will see that the Soul Science Primer with its drawings, is but the beginning of the article concerning the Seal of the United States, while the article on “Body, Mind, Spirit and Soul” is the final thereof.

    May it not be long until the Holy Pyramid shall be completed and may it be completed without the shedding of blood.
    Lovingly given,
    R. SWINBURNE CLYMER
    “Beverly Hall,” Quakertown, Pa., July 6th, 1916″

    Decades of Hegalian Dialectic dynamics from our State Department, anyone?

    • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 12:36 pm #

      What a swine. And it’s been a billion years since the New World and the Old World were connected, physically.

      There will be much blood, a sacrifice to their god, Lucifer. The Rosicrucians were “nice”, that is to say fools, so they might not have known this.

      • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 1:15 pm #

        Reminds me of how the masons are/were duped.
        You can use our symbols.
        Our names.
        You can be like us but not us.
        Just work for us.
        33° but still second class
        Rebuild our empire, you can have your “banking” cartel.

        • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 5:45 pm #

          Yes, the Protocols say they will have to be sent far away since they know too much. But if they are content with the Plateau, and intermarried with the Tribe, it isn’t really necessary at this point.

          Back in the 19th century, Jews said, They’ll never let us lead their armies. They underestimated their powers of seduction and/or our powers of resistance.

    • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 1:01 pm #

      The disconnected Capstone indicates the separation between the Elite or twice born and the gentiles, vandals, or human beasts. The gap will never be bridged. But yes, the secrecy might abate once they are in full control. But in reality, the gap will still be there. Thus the image is perfect as it is.

  32. butter56 October 9, 2023 at 12:38 pm #

    I’m sure “joe Biden” was ecstatic. It takes the attention of our own border and his terrible approval ratings

  33. Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 12:38 pm #

    Watch live: RFK Jr. expected to announce he’s running as an independent

    https://thehill.com/video/4245440-watch-live-rfk-jr-expected-to-announce-hes-running-as-an-independent/

  34. socialisthater October 9, 2023 at 12:48 pm #

    The Communist/Socialist/Fascist Democrat swine elite now running the U.S. government don’t give a damn about Israel, any more than they give a damn about ordinary, working, honest Americans. Their game is to create a Socialist dictatorship in the United States and they will do ANYTHING to get it, including starting World War III. No doubt, radical Islam (with plenty of cash from Biden funneled through Iran and likely a lot of U.S. military hardware from Biden’s totally f-ed up withdrawal from Afghanistan) is helping World War III to get going. For all their evil, radical Islamists aren’t stupid–they know that their best chance of not getting their asses kicked by the U.S. is right now, with the Obama/Hillary/Biden cabal still in full control of the U.S. Executive Branch. That could change come January 2025, and Trump or most any other Republican that could be elected President in 2024 will make it Job 1 to secure the U.S. borders, undertake the process of kicking umpteen million illegal aliens–including a lot of “sleeper cell” international terrorists–out of the U.S., and turning the U.S. intelligence and war-making apparatus against foreign enemies instead of toward parents at school board meetings, law-abiding gun owners, and those who think that there are just two sexes.

    The Trump-haters–most of them just brainwashed morons–can cry all they want about how awful Trump was, but NONE of this would be happening if Trump had been President since 2020. Trump may be an SOB, but he’s our SOB, not a bunch of leftist douche canoe patsies for America’s enemies that now make up the Democrat scum elite.

  35. Billy Hill October 9, 2023 at 1:09 pm #

    In the news reports I keep hearing about the abduction and/or death of “women and children” as if we are supposed to gasp even louder in response.

    Hold on here! I smell a double standard that applies when the bullets start whizzing by. Suddenly “women,” these strong independent beings capable of anything have backtracked to a time when (pass the smelling salts) Beaver’s mom served Ward’s favorite Swanson TV dinner and did the dishes after dusting the knick-knacks.

    As for children — what are they? Just smaller autonomous beings capable of deciding which gender to latch onto.

    I demand a foolish consistency!

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    • OG October 9, 2023 at 3:49 pm #

      It is very common for the modern woman to claim, “Heads: I win; Tails: you lose.”

  36. Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 1:33 pm #

    I recently insisted that Bobby Jr. answer the charge that he was a plant, a spoiler, and he needed to do it fast.

    Well he just did. I must say I’m pleased that he is on his toes and aware of that.

    The other thing he needs to be aware of, IMO, is the threat to his candidacy from the mail in ballots and the counting by machine.

    If the machines take longer and don’t increase accuracy, there is no legitimate reason on God’s green Earth to use them.

    He doesn’t want to lead all these people on just to have the election stolen from under him, does he?

    • megabeth October 9, 2023 at 2:14 pm #

      Ho did Kennedy supply you with an answer?

      • megabeth October 9, 2023 at 2:14 pm #

        How, that is. Not trying to call you names.

        • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 2:46 pm #

          He brought up that some people believe he’s running as a spoiler, for one side or the other.

          He said the truth is he intends to get votes that would have gone to the Democrats and Republicans both.

          He said it in simpler words.

        • Paula D October 9, 2023 at 2:59 pm #

          Perfect, megabeth. That made me laugh.

          “Whatcha lookin’ at, ho?”

        • badberries October 9, 2023 at 4:15 pm #

          megabeth, never apologize for calling somebody a Ho, we all be Hos. Ebbbody has deys price.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 5:04 pm #

            mbeth didn’t call me a ho.

          • badberries October 9, 2023 at 7:31 pm #

            So you admit that you are a Ho?

          • Beryl of Oyl October 10, 2023 at 7:43 am #

            Where do you get that, Berries?

            I don’t think I’m a ho. If I were a ho, I’d be much more successful.

            Most people think I’m a prude.

            I don’t think I’m a prude either.

          • Ron Anselmo October 10, 2023 at 12:41 pm #

            Beryl – being a ho doesn’t necessarily make one successful, but definitely popular. I always admired the girls that were a little more reserved – or acted that way anyway – especially the ones that were mistaken for being quite a bit younger.

        • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 5:48 pm #

          Something greater than her moved her hands on the keyboard. The brothers call them 304’s. The 4 is a h, etc. But why not a 403? Why backwards? Trying to create an astral mirror?

  37. cowbell81 October 9, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

    Hamas military spokesman says it will kill a civilian hostage any time Israel targets Gaza civilians without warning.

    Per the AP, a military spokesman for Hamas says the group will kill a civilian hostage any time Israel targets Gaza civilians without warning.

  38. Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 1:49 pm #

    The Market Ticker guy says what just happened is a ‘war of opportunity”, and that we created that opportunity.

    He’ll get no argument from me.

    On Israel And Hamas

    https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=249842

    • Disaffected October 9, 2023 at 2:55 pm #

      LOL! Sounds like he’s seriously pissed!

  39. cowbell81 October 9, 2023 at 1:58 pm #

    HUGE NEWS!!!!

    RFK Jr. drops Democratic presidential bid, re-enters 2024 race as independent

    This could be a gamechanger now!

    • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 2:12 pm #

      I wish I could be more excited about this.

      I was talking to someone yesterday, he was saying it’s interesting to watch people online trying to talk themselves into liking the guy.

      I like him enough personally, but I have so many misgivings.

      I have been reading a lot from Mike Cernovich recently, because he has been talking about some of the current issues from the ‘side’ I seem to be on, which is no side really.

      He has this to say about RFK Jr. and it encapsulates my fears about him. Not exactly the same, but at bottom Bobby believes in a lot of stuff I find just plain wrong, not just wrong but already tried and failed.

      “RFK JR would lock down the country over climate change. He’s a hyperventilating shitlib who pivoted right on some issues as conservatives media is all he can get. He’s very jacked and a good example of healthy man, admirable in that way, but don’t be a goofball. Still a shitlib.”

      • Night Owl October 9, 2023 at 3:35 pm #

        RFK is jacked on ‘roids. His body is freakish. This sort of thing has now been normalized though.

        • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 5:02 pm #

          Oh, c’mon. He’s not that big.

          • Night Owl October 9, 2023 at 5:09 pm #

            Perhaps I have been away from the US too long. Not so many fatties and ‘roiders here.

            No way that is all natural though.

          • Disaffected October 9, 2023 at 5:47 pm #

            If this picture is real, he’s pretty damn jacked for a 69 year old. I had no idea!

            https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/06/kennedy.png

          • Night Owl October 9, 2023 at 6:19 pm #

            Like I said, Dis. This has become normalized in some places (like the US of A) to the point that people can no longer distinguish between healthy and a 60-year-old squirting muscle juice into himself.

            Dem veins be poppin’!

          • Soul Forensics October 9, 2023 at 6:59 pm #

            If RFK Jr was natty, he’d have to be in the gym 6 hours a day every day to be that jacked.

            Do you want your next potential Commander-In-Chief to be lifting iron all day instead of doing hard hours cleaning the actual swamp (without boasting/broadcasting it every press conference)?

            I agree with Owl. Very very few 69 year-olds look like that on grass-fed beef and whey big gulps.

          • C.O.Jones October 9, 2023 at 8:17 pm #

            He mentioned in an interview that he is on a doctor-supervised testosterone replacement therapy.

          • Beryl of Oyl October 10, 2023 at 7:46 am #

            That’s real, Dis.

            It’s something we have to fear from an RFK presidency.

            He wants to makes us all do sit-ups.

            No, he did not say he would use force, but I can tell.

          • Night Owl October 10, 2023 at 12:15 pm #

            “He mentioned in an interview that he is on a doctor-supervised testosterone replacement therapy.”

            He is on a lot more than that.

      • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 5:51 pm #

        Yes, you have no side but that of Radical Feminists or Women Without a Country.

        I’d give you guys some big islands to live on by yourselves. Isolate the disease, but dress it up in the language of freedom and democracy.

    • bobfitz03 October 9, 2023 at 2:16 pm #

      Yes, RFK officially throws his hat into the ring and delivers the DNC a boat load of trouble.

      Tater is on the way out. Harris jabbers, cackles, and frets. Barry’s cozy relationship with Islam is suddenly VERY problematic for Bike Mike.

      Gav grins in the mirror and slicks back his hair. Hilldawg smells blood, gnaws her bone of contention, and awaits Her Turn.

      Crazy days.

      • Ron Anselmo October 10, 2023 at 1:10 pm #

        Awesome Bob – great recap in “every man’s” language. You should see if you can get a gig as a news correspondent for Joe Rogan’s podcast.

  40. Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 2:02 pm #

    Democrats where over there? Democrats like Israel now? What?

    Strange that so many Democrat members of Congress were in Israel during an attack that not one intelligence agency was able to foresee.

    https://x.com/Cernovich/status/1711167746963361823?s=20

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    • cowbell81 October 9, 2023 at 2:08 pm #

      Were they in on it? Maybe, we will likely never know. They probably held some kind of summit meeting, making plans on how the attack would be carried out.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 9, 2023 at 2:19 pm #

        The Wall Street Journal is now saying Iran helped plot the attack, which means the CIA knew this was coming.

        Iran Helped Plot Attack on Israel Over Several Weeks

        The Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps gave the final go-ahead last Monday in Beirut

        https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/iran-israel-hamas-strike-planning-bbe07b25?siteid=yhoof2&yptr=yahoo

        • Paula D October 9, 2023 at 3:02 pm #

          Cui bono? I think Rowdy was wondering.

          Looks like this will be used to attack Iran. It doesn’t take very long for the narrative to be laid out.

        • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 3:17 pm #

          Gee, just like that Rupert’s minions got the scoop

          This shit is so sloppy it’s a toss-up as to whether it’s insulting or deranged

          • OG October 9, 2023 at 3:45 pm #

            But they would never mass murder Americans in Lahaina. There is a red-line somewhere in between the two, right 100? A red-line that it would be crazy to think that they would ever cross, right?

            ***
            “you bipolar f**k”
            – 100

            Do you also name-call and ridicule the cancer-ridden for their cancer? Or diabetics for their diabetes? Or do you reserve that abuse just for the mentally ill?

          • Night Owl October 9, 2023 at 5:16 pm #

            You are bipolar, Hogg Man.

            One week you were telling me that my track record was impressive, the next how stupid I was.

            Then you told us JHK had you on a short leash after your bannings, then a few weeks later you claimed I was a liar.

            You are mentally ill. There is nothing wrong with that, but perhaps it would be useful to know this.

          • OG October 9, 2023 at 5:36 pm #

            As I recently assessed, you are both intelligent and dense, Mashed spuds zilch nada. [Although, I did recently call you “a fu(king moron” but that was out of frustration rather than a clinical assessment.]

            You are not nearly as important as you delusionally think that you are, little girl. JHK did have me on a short leash but there was still plenty of slack to identify and call you a liar, you liar. JHK is, of course, fine with truth. He did not issue me a warning for calling a spade “a spade” and that incident says more about you than it does me.

            I don’t recall telling you that your track record was impressive and I can’t imagine why I did so (assuming that you are not just lying again).

            ***
            I own my mental illness (and my ongoing recovery). What makes you think that I do not even know of my own medical condition?

            BTW, I was not diagnosed as bi-polar, Mszn. My mental illness was diagnosed by Dr Misener at Toronto’s Reed Clinic as the result of Situational Depression.

            ***
            You, on the other, Mszn, argue like a little girl and then claim victory!

            You still owe beantownbill. an apology, little girl.

          • Night Owl October 9, 2023 at 6:10 pm #

            A wall of psychotic text.

            LOL.

          • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 6:23 pm #

            You’re incorrect Night Owl.
            Kind but incorrect.
            There is something wrong with it.

            I being diabetic doesn’t prevent you from ordering the Great Wall of Chocolate with extra Chang’s sauce from PF’s.

            I having colon cancer does not prevent you from ordering a double-smoked 1/2 rack of brontosaurus ribs.

            But my mental illness is like second-hand smoke. It creates a penetrating cloud. It affects you. It frustrates, it annoys, it pesters, it festers. Mentally liked were locked up, lobotomized, or drugged to a drooling vegetable.
            Not for their good.
            For yours

        • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 5:53 pm #

          If so, the treaty brokered between Iran and Saudi Arabia may have worked some magic. Sunnis and the Shia do not get along, historically.

        • Not_GeorgeT October 9, 2023 at 11:48 pm #

          “which means the CIA knew this was coming.”

          Probably

          I’ll place my current bet on the Russians knew and tried to backchannel it to Israel. Thus, there is the false flag event… Mossad knew, Israelis let it happen.

          Lots of energy under the water off the coast of Gaza.

          It still comes down to cui bono and follow the money.

        • Wizard of the Saddle October 10, 2023 at 11:04 am #

          Biden regime likely kept Israel in the dark for two reasons:

          1) The are all in the bag for the Palestinian cause and….

          2) They needed a big Middle East war to dominate the news and divert attention from runaway inflation, open borders invasion, Biden’s accelerating dementia, Biden’s nosediving poll numbers, RFK, Jr.’s announcement of independent presidential bid, etc, etc.

          Of course, this also means that a lot of MSM propaganda about the bogus Lawfare cases being waged against Trump also has largely disappeared from the headlines.

          Down in Mar-a-Lago the GGG grins broadly….spits on his hands….and raises the black flag ? of no quarter as his poll numbers continue to climb northward.

          Every dark cloud has its silver lining.

  41. wm5135 October 9, 2023 at 2:28 pm #

    JohnAZ is that a package of daisy seeds i see in your breast pocket?

  42. Roundball Shaman October 9, 2023 at 2:45 pm #

    “So, it came as a big surprise when southern Israel was overrun by Hamas dudes in tricked-out pickup trucks and para-gliders… we’re in something that smells like uncharted territory… The scene looks a little bit like World War Three.”

    There is… missing something. There is… trying hard NOT to see anything. And there is… not missing anything at all.

    The Middle East is a hornets nest and chronic festering sore of inhuman turmoil and ethnic hatred. That region is a cultural co-dependence of misery and human pain. It has been this way for generations. It seems as if this has now been fully codified into the lifestyles of this darkened portion of Planet Earth.

    The Middle East is an experiment of what happens when hate for its own sake is allowed to become implanted and come to term to bring endless harvests of death, pain, and misery. With little desire to seek honest solutions or to ever turn one’s back on useless human misery that exists solely to feed on itself and grow. This Region of Sorrows exposes the dark and ugly side of the human family that exists within the hidden corners of the human spirit.

    People of good faith can always find common ground and a permanent solution to a cultural dissonance that seeks to lives for it own sake. People of no faith do not seek solutions and will in fact actively resist them as this would require an entirely new re-defining of oneself and one’s group and culture and sense of being and purpose. And few ever want to confront their own darkness within to find the Light… within and beyond self. Or some cowardly wait for someone else… some savior to end the insanity so the perps don’t have to exert any effort or confront any internal ugliness.

    Hatred and bad intent does not come in a single flag or uniform. It comes in all shapes and sizes and backgrounds. No group of people anywhere are without sin. And Innocents are dying on all sides who wanted nothing more than to live out Life in peace.

    There is the blatant first-level tragedy of the loss of lives and the widespread human suffering. And there is a secondary, deeper level of shame when human beings actively and with bad intent and manic stubbornness refuse to elevate themselves and their people beyond the pit of some of the worst actions and behaviors seen by humankind.

    This pain and death and misery and tragedy will end when those involved finally decide it’s time to put an end to a useless lifestyle of madness that serves no good purpose whatsoever.

    This pain and death and misery and tragedy will not end when those involved have made these deviancies one of their primary reasons for living and part of their core identity.

    Shame. And shame, again. Prayers for the Innocents. And Planet Earth cries out for sanity to appear and for the pain and suffering to finally end. A rise of sanity and humanity from a seedbed of inhuman darkness.

    • Amman October 9, 2023 at 4:45 pm #

      Pain and death and misery is what happens to covid and opioid victims, no?

      Just another perspective.

      • Roundball Shaman October 9, 2023 at 5:12 pm #

        Amman: “Pain and death and misery is what happens to covid and opioid victims, no?”

        Various means of fostering pain and misery and death is one of the human family’s top specialties. There is no greater self-hating life form on face of the Earth than human beings. No other life form is on that level of self-destroying.

    • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 5:54 pm #

      Para-gliders? Sounds like commando stuff. That means Israel or Iran. Could some of the Hamas troops be Israelis?

      And could the kids at the rave be crisis actors?

      • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 6:14 pm #

        As we know, Israel created Hamas

        • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 6:19 pm #

          Tell Pete. He’s a Jeweler by trade. Someone’s got to do it. It’s intellectual type manual labor.

          • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 6:32 pm #

            Like surgeons and medical doctors.
            Requires smarts.
            Well remunerated

            But it’s dirty work all the same

  43. cowbell81 October 9, 2023 at 2:50 pm #

    If nothing else, there is going to be a glut of Shivas going on in the next day or two (or three).

  44. Cavepainter October 9, 2023 at 3:36 pm #

    (1) Tolerance threshold for ambiguity: Point where one’s psychological requirement for certitude/predictability isn’t met, resulting in trend toward “mass formation psychosis”.
    (2) Approximately 30% of any demographic is without on-board impulse control lacking (either or both) peer and agency pressure.
    (3) Sociopaths occur in approximate ratio of 1 in 24.
    (4) = Disasters such as Branch Davidians or Jim Jones Guyana JonesTown, or………..

  45. mitchellc October 9, 2023 at 3:48 pm #

    Just as a friendly reminder, it’s always about energy.

    Even if the private credit money system didn’t require surplus to drive expansion, it would still be the prime directive; see Rome.

    It doesnt even have to be a direct relationship, like Ukraine as a forward base against Russia, or Israel as our unsinkable carrier in the ME.

    Rather, a secondary theater like China can merely be a test of power as a prelude to future competition over the real deal.

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    • mitchellc October 9, 2023 at 3:56 pm #

      I also hope people can see how ridiculously naive it is to believe any single person, whether Trump or Jr, can alter a millenia old cultural imperative.

      The *only* thing that can challenge and possibly defeat state power is an equal peer adversary.

      So, you accept the system that provides incredible abundance to those residing in the imperial homeland, or petulantly hope for defeat without truly understanding what that would actually mean.

      • OG October 9, 2023 at 4:13 pm #

        That is the beauty of Qanon, 100. Trump is not acting as a “single person.” There are many, many, many White Hats acting all over the world.

  46. gustafson.robert.22 October 9, 2023 at 3:55 pm #

    Would a WWIII be good? Should the US support Israel? Should I be annoyed when every single politician makes a statement supporting them?

    I don’t know.

    • mitchellc October 9, 2023 at 4:00 pm #

      Think of Israel as Hawaii – an incredibly valuable piece of strategic real estate.

      Don’t listen to the stage actors; their job is to play to the 95-105 masses.

      Rather, demonstrate why you are hanging out in alt.media by focusing on the larger, macro view.

      • gustafson.robert.22 October 9, 2023 at 4:21 pm #

        I’m not at all convinced hoarding oil and clinging to resources of industrialism and influence over them is necessarily a good play for USA, Mitch. I don’t know. Maybe those who let go of resources could be the winners.

        • Night Owl October 9, 2023 at 5:13 pm #

          If you knew history, you would never say this.

          Not that far from where I live, there is a town called Manderscheid. There are two castles about four or five football fields apart. One has the high ground, the other the low. They fought over the valley, which had a water source and abundant food. The competition was so fierce that they built two fucking castles within view of one another.

          • OG October 9, 2023 at 5:18 pm #

            Mashed spuds zilch nada spews red-herrings as far as the eye can see … and then claims victory!

          • Night Owl October 9, 2023 at 5:21 pm #

            It must be hard to never leave Canadeu, Hogg Man.

            Imagine what you could learn.

          • OG October 9, 2023 at 5:57 pm #

            I travelled extensively during my 22-year Bay Street career, little girl. You are so smug in your bad assumptions, little girl.

          • gustafson.robert.22 October 9, 2023 at 5:57 pm #

            There’s a difference between water in your territory, and oil across the world.

            There’s also a difference between territorial primitive tribes and territorial agriculturalists (the agriculturalists, with ballooning populations, quickly squabble and castle-build and generally turn territories to shit and social relations to a farce of overcrowded comic squalor and petty warring rather than effective warring).

            But, not every resource is the same, and I do not believe every single opportunity to grab at something pays off, ultimately.

            Ideally, at least, I want some isolationism and development of self-reliance.

            Not saying “fuggettabout resources.” Saying there are times when passing on some could benefit, and I wonder if the Middle East could be one. How much of a threat is an unchecked Muslim cohort left alone to do what they will really? Do we need the Israel connection as the constant thorn in the side if the Islamic states? Is it even an effective play in the context of oil?

            Why not focus on our own hemisphere instead, for instance?

            My comment was smugness-bait too. No shock at the catch or response. 🙂

            And I’m on the fence as to global resource grabs. But do we really even have much of a strategy? Any real plan? Any real consensus as to end goals. I don’t think we do, more than half the time.

          • OG October 9, 2023 at 6:07 pm #

            Gus, you seem to be confused as to who runs the US of A and for whom they run it. The ADL runs the House and the Senate. Once there, you either get in line or they will Cynthia McKinney your ass. Worse, they could always Paul Wellstone your ass.

          • Night Owl October 9, 2023 at 6:16 pm #

            The point, Gus, is that people will never stop fighting over resources, or hoarding them, or putting up walls around them.

            “Letting go” of resources is not an option.

          • gustafson.robert.22 October 9, 2023 at 6:17 pm #

            OG, when I say “we,” I mean voters, commoners and their opinions on things, not TPTB.

          • gustafson.robert.22 October 9, 2023 at 6:26 pm #

            Owl, there are certainly hypothetical and real scenarios where letting go of one thing (to acquire another) is the smart play. Everybody’s always grabbing something. The strategy is what to grab, and when.

            Like I said, my desired end-goal would be isolationism and self-reliance, rather than globe-trotting (enemy-creating) oil-grabs. Maybe unrealistic, but maybe at some point not too far down the line, not so unrealistic.

          • OG October 9, 2023 at 6:28 pm #

            How much of a threat is an unchecked Muslim cohort left alone to do what they will really? Do we need the Israel connection as the constant thorn in the side if the Islamic states? Is it even an effective play in the context of oil? Why not focus on our own hemisphere instead, for instance?

            Regardless who “we” is, Gus, the above thinking is not permitted in DC. One must dance to the ADL’s fiddle or beat it. Those are the only options while the swamp remains undrained.

            ***
            Mszn, I saw what you did there. You countered accusations of constant your red-herring-spewing … with yet another red-herring!

          • gustafson.robert.22 October 9, 2023 at 6:58 pm #

            Part of the reason TPTB are so completely in control right now is that basic global citizens have just become so ruthlessly dumb and directionless that there’s absolutely no coherent opposition force or voice to TPTB whatsoever.

          • Soul Forensics October 9, 2023 at 7:48 pm #

            The human brain has developed an outer layer late in its evolution, engendering the much-gushed-over “warm” and nurturing, protective instinct to go along with the reptilian core and the executive part. But that protection still only extends to one’s own family and (perhaps) to the surrounding small community of likeminded cultural and ethnic homogenous tribe.

            Throughout history, communities only had a chance to work when we were limited to groups of about 30 people. We had to be flexible enough to move immediately when in danger (fewer people), but strong enough to survive attacks from the next village, whether by surprise or not (more people). Thirty was the sweet spot.

            Right now, we’re besieged by extremely complex forces of competing interests, some of whom are incredibly “asymmetrically” powerful, and who also have abstract means of enslavement (pieces of exchanged paper built only on trust), as well as recruitment power for those among us to do their own work.

            As for ourselves, we now feel permanently entitled to the perks we’ve been accustomed to from birth, and without which we’re helpless.

            Strip away the community building efforts of church, organic nuclear family, free expressions of art and general assembly, and our brains, not to mention our spirit, break under the confusion.

            IOW, we, as a loose collection of have-nots, internationally, as a nation, or even as a city, have little to no cohesion, so not enough internal force to withstand TPTB.

            That said, after the SHTF, the remaining pockets of humanity will get to observe the next stage when the PTB will become complacent, bloated, and spiritually sick, infighting for ever more power which will crush them in turn.

        • Anthea October 10, 2023 at 1:47 am #

          @ gustafson:

          Those without resources get trampled by those who have resources. The weak get invaded and conquered.

          • gustafson.robert.22 October 10, 2023 at 5:11 am #

            Yes.
            There will be a point though at which those heavily invested in oil-tech and in resources from the other side of the globe will lose out as the value of those things falls and other resources become more valuable. We’re not there yet. But maybe we might be close enough that the whole alliance with Israel as a foothold in ME is not a good investment?

    • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 4:06 pm #

      The U.S. is a client state.
      If a candidate or politician does not, without question, completely and totally support Israel they are labeled as antisemitic, or worse, denied campaign support. If they fail to capitulate, they send in the ADL to harass and smear.

      This is why li’l Ronny D went out and kissed the wall and passed some anti free speech law before he kicked off his campaign: Boca Ratón and West Palm $$$$ needed the ritual.

    • OG October 9, 2023 at 4:16 pm #

      Would a WWIII be good?

      Now there’s a question that I have never heard pondered before.

      • cowbell81 October 9, 2023 at 4:57 pm #

        Could go both ways. Like one’s bowels, the world is in need of a good cleansing, and WWIII might be just the act to do it.

        • Mike Sherman October 9, 2023 at 6:41 pm #

          You remind me of my old man when, we as kids in the 60s, he decided we were ‘spoilt’, and would say from time to time “What you bloody kids need is a good DEPRESSION!”
          Bullshit then, and especially bullshit now re: WW3.

  47. OG October 9, 2023 at 4:39 pm #

    GLT Update

    We now have five completed/shared GLT scores. 4×10 and 1×1.

    The results are coming in as expected. People with a big GLT are ok showing it to others while people with a tiny little GLT are as bashful as a Pee Wee Grade 9 in the boy’s shower after gym class.

  48. SoftStarLight October 9, 2023 at 5:08 pm #

    No. WWIII will give them more reasons to consume many times more resources and destroy more of the Earth than has already been destroyed.

    • Night Owl October 9, 2023 at 5:19 pm #

      The hidden fact within is that when they destroy it, they buy up more of what they destroyed. Then it some of it grows back and/or they build it into what they want, extract what they want, etc., and they are much richer, and we are much poorer.

      If the last three years have taught us anything, I would think the above would come to mind at least once.

      • SoftStarLight October 9, 2023 at 5:27 pm #

        Yes, this one seems crystal clear. This is a very well planned out power grab. They have cut off running water and electricity to the million plus civilians in Gaza and have talked about expelling the population. Now they are getting into very much in your face resource and land grabs and population displacements. Not even the patina of mystery with space lasers, etc., this time.

        • Night Owl October 9, 2023 at 5:31 pm #

          Yep.

  49. cowbell81 October 9, 2023 at 5:27 pm #

    Hahahaha, poor Zelensky, no longer the center of attention on the world stage:

    Addressing NATO on Monday in Denmark, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky urged global action amid a growing chasm of terror after Hamas’ weekend attacks on Israel.

    Zelensky compared the tense situation in Gaza to the war in Ukraine by highlighting similarities in the actions of terrorists and their impact on innocent civilians in both regions.

    Zelensky noted that Hamas and Moscow “were the same evil” and that the only thing that can guarantee peace is action on behalf of allied countries and adherence to the governing structures of international law.

  50. PeteAtomic October 9, 2023 at 5:54 pm #

    “You know, of course, that the CIA’s job is to detect sinister doings in other countries, especially as they might affect our own country. Looks like they missed something lately in the spook-filled space between Iran and Israel. Do you suppose they’re too busy running Facebook?

    Yes, Jim!

    Let’s add the 9/11 attacks, and years of failures in the Middle East specifically; including the “weapons of mass destruction” lies for the justification of the Iraq War, the “Sunni Uprising” in Iraq 2005, ISIS, the Taliban offensives which retook Kabul, etc. This short list only mentions some more recent events. You find intelligence failures like the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 for example, etc.

    It’s blaringly apparent now that the CIA misuses much of its resources and money to act as Praetorian Guard in US domestic politics. Which is completely & diametrically opposite & wholly inappropriate to the “mission” (whatever that comprises of today) for CIA.

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  51. PeteAtomic October 9, 2023 at 5:57 pm #

    A Palestinian homeland already exists.

    It’s called Jordan.

    • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 6:56 pm #

      A Jewish homeland already exists’

      It’s called Israel.

      Can Whites have homelands? If not, why not?

      • PeteAtomic October 9, 2023 at 8:23 pm #

        ya

        Russia. Poland.

        France and Germany are simply Hamas/Hezbollah breeding grounds

        • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 9:19 pm #

          They’re all forced to take migrants
          Except Russia.

          That’s why it’s targeted
          One of many reasons

          • PeteAtomic October 10, 2023 at 8:16 am #

            Yup

          • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 1:02 pm #

            The Kalergi Plan. What the Nazis were fighting against when they fought the International Bankers.

            Arab Nazis did this!

            The News

    • SteveK9 October 10, 2023 at 11:03 am #

      That would have been a peaceful solution (after the brutality of Israel’s founding of course), but humans almost never give up the piece of dirt … they would rather die. You see it everywhere.

    • Paula D October 10, 2023 at 3:50 pm #

      The Palestinians were thrown out of Jordan in 1971, after they tried to overthrow the king.

      .thoughtco.com/black-september-jordanian-plo-civil-war-2353168

  52. PeteAtomic October 9, 2023 at 6:06 pm #

    I think Gaza will cease to exist as an independent entity after these attacks. It will become Israeli territory, with the Palestinian people there either going to Egypt or the West Bank.

    If you were looking at this situation from the Israeli point of view, Gaza makes no security sense.

    It acts as a literal thorn in the side of the Israeli state.

    So., I think it’ll disappear.

    The war between Israel and Palestine is a racial one. It’s unfinished since 1948.

    This conflict right now just might provide the Final Solution to the Palestinian question.

    (I had to slip that in for Janos)

    hehe

    • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 6:14 pm #

      Israel is much like Ancient India, a Pyramid of different Jewish ethnicities and castes. The White (mostly) Ashkenazi are the ruling class. The olive skinned Sephardim are the tradesmen and small businessmen. The Oriental or Arab type Jews are the manual laborers and soldiers.

      Jewish soldiers could easily pretend to be Hamas troops.

      • PeteAtomic October 9, 2023 at 6:21 pm #

        The admission that the blonde & red headed Jews are mostly White is shocking, coming from you.

        Not sure what to type, Janos. Pretty wild stuff.

        haha

        🙂

        • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 7:00 pm #

          Some of the finest Red haired men I’ve ever seen – the Celtic chief or Viking lord types, have been Hasidic Jews. As Pat said, Likud is straight up National Socialism.

          Most of the ladies here are against Israel but not for the United States or the West. Crazy stuff, eh? That’s why you don’t want women voting. They lose touch with realities in favor of ideologies.

          • KesaAnna October 9, 2023 at 7:30 pm #

            I thought the Christian Kingdoms of Antioch , Edessa , and Jerusalem were a side show , a logistically improbable side show , and a bad bet.

            Seems pretty consistent to me.

          • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 8:01 pm #

            Apropos of what exactly in my post? But ok I will indulge you in your last few weeks on Earth:

            The Outremeer was a glorious failure. The very word invokes dying glory, like the statue of the Dying Celt, or the Confederacy.

            Whites tried to take too much of the world and are ending up with far less than we would have had if we had been wiser.

    • SteveK9 October 10, 2023 at 11:02 am #

      Take it up in scale and you can see Israel is a ‘literal thorn in the side’ of the Middle East.

    • Anthea October 11, 2023 at 11:52 am #

      @ PeteAtomic:

      I’d say that the reason Gaza exists is because is because they are valuable as political pawns for setting off wars as desired and keeping Arab passions inflamed against Israel and vice-versa.

      I think I’ve read or been told that none of the surrounding Arab nations will take the Palestinians. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but one would think that the Palestinians would emigrate if they were able–which suggests they are not. Anyway, if true, that means that the surrounding Arab countries enjoy using Gaza as a political football, as does Israel. That why the place exists. And, as long as it’s useful to the major players, it will continue to exist.

      If, on the other hand, the Palestinians in Gaza could easily emigrate, that suggests to me that they are kept there by a continual barrage of political propaganda, enjoining them to keep fighting for their “cause.” There seems to be quite a bit of confusion about what their cause actually is, or what is their desired outcome. I seem to remember their getting played by their own leadership’s rejection of past workable agreements, for no other reason than to keep said leadership in money and power, since they were making bank of keeping things stirred up. Think BLM for comparison.

      I think they’re just a bunch of hapless people who are getting played for the political purposes of just about everyone else in the region.

      • Paula D October 12, 2023 at 12:16 pm #

        I think they are grifters. If you are on Facebook, you’ve probably been hit up for money by them.
        “Please help me! I have ten starving children who need shoes. Please send me money.”
        (I know you are pro-multiple children, but my reaction is “I’ll send you condoms, not money.”

        I have a friend who, overcome with compassion, decided to go to Gaza and volunteer. She is the one who told me how well they live off of donations from the rest of the world.

        Yeah, Egypt closed their border with Gaza a while back. As I posted above, Jordan threw them out after they started a bloody civil war, which included hijacking planes and blowing them up. That is when the whole airline security started, in which people are hassled for wanting to travel somewhere.

        Then they went to Lebanon, and started two civil wars there.

        When Syria, who hosts a population of Palestinian refugees, came under attack from ISIS, Hamas supported ISIS, not Syria.
        They seem rather ungrateful to host countries.

        But they are very useful for Arab countries to point to, when their own populations get restive.

        “Look over there! Oppressed Palestinians! They have it much worse than you do!”

  53. Jarek October 9, 2023 at 6:09 pm #

    Barnhardt

    Columbus Day reminder to thank God Almighty for the first glorious Colonization, Proselytization and Conversion of the Americas
    I put “first” in the title, because it is going to have to be done again.

    One of the things that you hear from the New World Order cabal and Antipope Bergoglio is that one of the worst things to ever happen was the conversion of the Americas, specifically the Spanish conquest of the Americas, but now also the abject hoaxes that Antipope Bergoglio gleefully participates in about Catholic orphanages slaughtering eskimo and indian children in Canada. Here’s a bit of history that the Marxist education system has completely edited out of the book.

    I, along with the reader who sent this to me, had always assumed that the family of the Aztec Emperor Montezuma was killed by the Spanish, namely Hernan Cortes, in order to keep the Aztecs from rallying to them and trying to re-establish the Aztec throne with his children. Montezuma did die, but it is unclear HOW he died. Admittedly, Cortes may have had him killed, but there are also accounts of Montezuma being stoned to death by his own people AND accounts of Montezuma starving himself to death. We just don’t know.

    What we do know for a metaphysical certitude is what happened to Montezuma’s children – and brace yourself because this is going to be a shocker. They all converted to Catholicism, and were quickly created titular Spanish royalty by the King of Spain. Not only were Montezuma’s children and grandchildren not killed, but they were recognized and respected as royalty and integrated into the Spanish Royal caste as Dukes, Duchesses, Counts and Countesses. They then relocated to Spain and married other Spanish royalty, and their lines and titular houses exist to this day, with those houses receiving pensions all the way up until ARSH 1934.

    [picture]

    The crest of the House of Moctezuma.
    The crest of the House of Moctezuma.

    What this shows is the amazing respect that the Spanish had for the people that they encountered in the Americas, DESPITE the horrific pagan atrocities that the Spanish encountered. The Spanish must have been utterly revolted at what they found in the Aztec culture, but STILL RECOGNIZED THE HUMANITY of the Aztecs. And yes, I do attribute this to the fact that the Spanish were working under the auspices of the Church, and the most important aspect their mission was to spread the Gospel to the peoples of the Americas. They didn’t view the Aztecs as sub-human. They viewed them as a pagan people that Christ Himself longed to have integrated into His Body. And you know what? MISSION. ACCOMPLISHED.

    I am always shocked by how many Christians, falling for the Marxist propaganda of the last 60 years, LAMENT that the Latin American pagan cultures were converted to Christianity. This betrays the fact that most modern Christians really don’t believe in Christ or the Gospel deep down. How could a believing Christian LAMENT souls entering the Body of Christ? Furthermore, look at the Aztec, Maya and Inca cultures themselves. They were absolutely horrific. The amount of human sacrifice was massive. Life-or-death sporting events were also very common. Are we really so brainwashed by Marxist propaganda that we believe that the world would be a better place if such horrors were never exterminated and continued to this day – because ANYTHING is better than Christianity? Really? Every Christian should regularly offer prayers of Thanksgiving to Our Lord for the conversion of Latin America which began with Columbus’ expedition, the joy of many millions of people coming to know Christ and hear the Gospel, and for the extermination of the horrendous, satanic culture of human sacrifice that was swept away – may it never, ever return.

    Oh… wait.

    [picture]

    Gloria Steinem flashing the Triangle of Manifestation gang signal of satanism. Remember, public manifestation is always eventually required of satanists.

    • gustafson.robert.22 October 9, 2023 at 6:48 pm #

      This is mostly garbage, except for the idea that Mayans, Incas and Aztecs were pretty disposable cultures… they were, as were the Spanish.

    • KesaAnna October 9, 2023 at 7:12 pm #

      Good one for her .

      One of my library favorites is , ” The Discovery and Conquest of Mexico ”

      thriftbooks.com/w/the-discovery-and-conquest-of-mexico_bernal-daz-del-castillo/250442/item/2384763/?

      Written , incredibly , by a witness , and preserved , incredibly , to the present.

      If I remember correctly , several people actually saw Ed Gein’s interesting art collection.

      But he told them it was old pagan art , and they believed him , because it was .

      Ed Gein may have been a psycho , but he knew a bit about Head – Hunting , cannibalism , Necrophancy , Skull racks , and suits made of human skin.

      • gustafson.robert.22 October 9, 2023 at 7:24 pm #

        Probably the worst part of Christianity is this “rising above the primitives” bit.

        It was 100% European Christian culture, including the fucked up genetics and mental defectiveness related to diets, etc, that created Ed Gein.

        No wonder he tried to find release from the diseased state in which he found himself… release in the direction of the repressed primitive.

      • Anthea October 11, 2023 at 12:04 pm #

        @ KesaAnna:

        That sounds like a great read. I just ordered it from abebooks. I don’t do that often, as I was more in the habit of requesting stuff from the library. But it seems as if the really good stuff is becoming unobtainium.

  54. PeteAtomic October 9, 2023 at 6:18 pm #

    With Israel in a major hot war, the “news” will focus (yet again) on events in the M.E.

    We will hear little about Ukraine, now. It’s another failed US proxy war, anyway.

    Israel & the M.E. is politically powerful for the Deep State and US politicians regardless of their politics. The Uniparty is literally frothing at the mouth today about the situation in Israel. It’s like somebody kicked their own German Shepard maliciously.

    In a couple months, the “news” will report without commentary that the beautiful Black Sea city of Odessa & the Transnistria, and the large steppe city of Kharkov, perhaps even Kiev itself, is all in Russian hands.

    Just watch. Ukraine will disappear. Poof! Just like magic.

    Did the war between Ukraine and Russia even happen??

    Did the US really give over 125 billion USD to the government of Kiev?

    Just close your eyes and imagine it never happened. Just like magic….

    • Mike Sherman October 9, 2023 at 6:36 pm #

      Huh! I thought Jared Kushner had SOLVED “The Middle East Question” already…and for a measly $2 billion.

      • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 7:32 pm #

        You have a point.

        Maybe here, one administration giving full back up to Israel putting the fear of God into the Muslims being followed by a very weak sister administration that backs Iran and the Palestinians.

        Tliab needed to be tarred and feathered. These Isis, Palestinian apologists brings on the terrorists.

        Please this time, just let Israel eliminate the problem and no more conciliation.

        • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 7:33 pm #

          Get it?

          We are next.

    • OG October 9, 2023 at 6:47 pm #

      Did the US really give over 125 billion USD to the government of Kiev?

      Follow the money:

      Biden sez, “Give Ukraine $125B.”
      Congress sez, “Done!”
      Treasury sez, “We need another $125B.”
      Fed giggles and maniacally rubs its hands together.
      Fed sez, “Done.”
      MIC sez, “Over here!”
      Treasury sez, “Done.”

      Most of the $125B goes from Fed to Treasury to MIC (i.e. the $125B is created in and never, ever leaves DC).

      ***
      It’s like somebody kicked their own German Shepard maliciously.

      I can neither confirm nor deny that President “Joe Biden”‘s German shepherd, Commander, regularly bites people on account of SloJo constantly beating him.

    • Q. Shtik October 9, 2023 at 11:20 pm #

      The Uniparty is literally frothing at the mouth today – PeteA

      ===========

      metaphorically

  55. KesaAnna October 9, 2023 at 6:24 pm #

    ” Don’t believe anything you see or think. ”

    — Miss Demeanor

    My absolute favorite line in the song , ” Loser ” ;

    ” Don’t believe everything that you breathe. “

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  56. KesaAnna October 9, 2023 at 6:26 pm #

    Well Night Owl ,

    we are gonna talk about Palastine anyway.

    I guess it is just as well , the atheists weren’t really interested in Dnepropatropavlosk ( how the fuck do you actually spell that anyway ? ) anyway.

  57. KesaAnna October 9, 2023 at 6:41 pm #

    I suppose I have now read ” The Gulag Archipelago ” cover – to cover several times over.

    But I never read it cover – to – cover.

    For me , at least , it works very much like an encyclopedia or a dictionary ;

    You can flip it open to any page , front or back . read it front to back , or just as well back to front.

    It was , and is , my go – to basic textbook on criminal justice.

    It was specifically about Soviet criminal justice ,

    but in my opinion the contents apply as well to any country , culture , and at any time.

    For example , I flip it open to a random page and read ;

    ( paraphrased from memory )

    The Soviets shipped a kooky little cult off to an island in the arctic and left them there to starve.

    The beef was that this cult held that swearing oaths is a sin.

    Every time you check ” Yes ” on a document , or put your signature on a document , you are swearing an oath.

    So that shit don’t work.

    Liberty , equality , and fraternity is all about filling out forms.

    Sounds very familiar to me.

  58. 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 6:44 pm #

    Even a courageous Op-Ed in a major Israeli newspaper had the courage, now, in all the rawness to blame Yahoo:

    “The op-ed said that the prime minister had “completely failed to identify the dangers he was consciously leading Israel into” when he established a government of “annexation and dispossession”
    “ The piece said that Netanyahu had shaped the policy of the government led by Naftali Bennett and Yair Lapid, which aimed “to crush the Palestinian national movement in both its wings, in Gaza and the West Bank.”

    The newspaper said that after winning in the last election, his “fully-right government” had taken steps to to annex the West Bank and to carry out ethnic cleansing “

    “The piece criticized Netanyahu for a “massive expansion” of settlements and increasing the Jewish presence on Temple Mount near the Al Aqsa Mosque, as well as a peace deal with Saudi Arabia “in which the Palestinians get nothing.”

    “Signs of an outbreak of hostilities began in the West Bank, where Palestinians started feeling the heavier hand of the Israeli occupier,” Haaretz said. “Hamas exploited the opportunity in order to launch its surprise attack.”

    Again, this all megalomaniac Yahoo’s doing

    • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 7:06 pm #

      Hundreds of Jewish thugs harassed Muslim worshipers at the Mosque a couple of weeks ago.

      Is Islander still for a one state solution, lol?

      • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 7:23 pm #

        Crocodile tears?

        The people who feel pity for the Palestinians and Muslims.
        Suddenly.
        I feel pity for the innocents.
        Both sides
        Who will do the majority of the dying

        Would you feel the same if it was the Hagia Sophia, and E. orthodox were pushing out the rug worshippers?

        Not trying to pick a fight.
        Trying to maintain a standard.

        • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 7:27 pm #

          Legitimate POV.

          Think now, who are the drivers, the PTB.

          Hint, the USA is a contributor.

          The innocents always pay for the sins of the PTB.

          How do you get Joe Average to just say no!!!!!!!

          • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 7:54 pm #

            They have been saying no.
            But they have no agency.
            Doing no is next.

            A people’s strike

        • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 7:42 pm #

          Don’t pretend you are above the fray, an omniscient narrator. You spoke of “your people” a couple of weeks ago.

          Stanley Kubrick hated his people much of the time, but blood is thicker than water. And he bent over backwards to protect them by deleting all overt references in his movie, Eyes Wide Shut.

          • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 7:49 pm #

            I’m not above anything.
            I’m in the pen, throwing mud.
            But I throw it everywhere.
            Nobody is beyond reproach.
            Everyone is dirty.

            My people are all people, or any people, who have about had it with the few and the many who follow them.
            It’s either that or total misanthropy

          • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 7:57 pm #

            Sounds like equivocation to me. Trying to have it both ways.

          • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 8:08 pm #

            Well, isn’t that what drives humanity in essence?
            Having it both ways?
            We know nature and the cosmos will have its way, ultimately.

            But we can have our way too, for a brief time. We can have both.

            But I understand what ways you’re referring to.
            But you should understand that I’m not in it to win it.
            I’m in it to expose it.
            And that will make us all lose.
            Don’t you see it happening?
            Truth is killing this arrangement.
            In truth’s time.

            Lies take the elevator while truth takes the stairs.
            And when it gets to the top, everything goes over.

          • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 8:27 pm #

            Civilizations stomp up on hob nailed boots and descend in silken slippers.

            You want to sell us the slippers and ban the hob nailed boots. But the barbarians come wearing sandals made from tires, leather, or nothing at all.

            All aboard the Peace Train! It’s an elevator going down to the bowels of Hell.

      • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 7:24 pm #

        Harassed a group of Muslims?

        Hundreds?

        Sounds like an Al Jazeera report.

        Even so, how many Muslims were killed or kidnapped? I heard a Palestinian official saying that the only targets were military.

        What a crock of crap.

    • SteveK9 October 10, 2023 at 10:59 am #

      It’s not so complicated, is it?

  59. Paula D October 9, 2023 at 6:59 pm #

    “We’re going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran,”
    General Wesley Clark

    Five years? The hubris! They haven’t even finished with the first six and it’s been 22 years.

    Looks like the New Pearl Harbor event, used to rampage through the first six countries, has worn off.
    So they need a New New Pearl Harbor, now also known as the New 9-11. (The marketing department works fast.)

    But they drilled the story of the Sunni vs Shiite hatred into us for years, to explain why the Iraq insurgency devolved into internecine warfare after two years (and the arrival of Negroponte and James Steele).

    “They have hated each other for centuries” they told us, eager to share history with Americans, because they want us to be educated and aware.

    But now we are supposed to believe that Hamas, a creation of Israel based on the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood, is BFFs with Shiite Iran.

    And we are supposed to believe that Iran has a “ratline” straight into Gaza, through which they pour missiles, guns and ammo, without the Israelis knowing about it.

    Sure, dudes.

    And then they use the “Intelligence failure” line again, to top it of!

    And a music festival with undesirables is attacked. Shades of Las Vegas, 2017.

    They just keep remaking the old movies.

    • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 7:09 pm #

      Paula uses quotations for ratline. Ratlines are only for Nazis, you stupid people!

  60. JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 7:01 pm #

    Change the subject a moment.

    I reported last week that we saw all those wind farms off the northeast shore of England on our cruise. Miles and miles of windmills as far as the eye could see.

    Read a report today that that wind farm was starting up Oct. 7 starting with sector A of four sectors. Its name is Dogger Bank and will be comprised of four sectors. As I reported, there was an entire pier in Zeebrugges set up to stage the windmills out to sea.Huge enterprise.

    Now, here are the facts.

    When complete, it will supply 3.6 gigawatts, fully up as running at full blast.

    It will supply 6 million homes. Sounds impressive

    Until

    You understand that by the time it is completed there will be 4 million homes in London alone and 29 million homes in England and Wales. That is an increase of about 10%, about 3 million homes in 7 years. So as of today, 50% of this humongous effort will feed growth only in England and Wales. That only includes homes, not government or industrial growth.

    We need wind and solar and fast. Not as the CC idiots say though, we need them to offset part of the growth of energy needs in the world. Absolutely no reduction in oil, gas and coal will happen due to renewables, matter of fact as the area of the continental shelf’s declines suitable for development, the ability to grow is going to decline in Europe. More fossil fuels will be required.

    Climate Changers will argue saying that life styles will change to bring down the energy usage.

    In the short term, they are full of kaka. Just look back a few decades, there has been no decline or net conservation at all. More and more energy will be needed.

    If peak oil is real, and I believe it is, the habits of humanity is going to change, it will be forced upon us. I am grateful I will not see what is coming.

    First step is for the youngest generations today to be honestly educated on what is coming, that they better figure out more energy economical ways of doing business and set the researchers out finding these ways. Stop believing the extremely stupid governments who are trying to indoctrinate them with the answer is renewables. Stop the BS concern about CO2 as this is the governments’ BS answer to placate the people. And please shut Greta up, she is just a symbol of the ignorance of the PTB.

    How do we triple the amount of energy we get from a barrel of oil or a cu. Yd of gas. How do we make coal a zero contributor to pollution? How do we find ways to recycles renewable parts?

    Just watch the cost of oil. All the needs for oil are reflected in the price, demand has no direction to go but up.

    Get rid of the lock that the CC nuts have on the Deep State, fire Biden and Kerry. Now, four years from now is too late.

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    • gustafson.robert.22 October 9, 2023 at 7:07 pm #

      We do not need useless, energy-sink future-garbage wind farms. We need population-reduction.

      • JohnAZ October 9, 2023 at 7:18 pm #

        Population reduction will happen when:

        Someone convinces the world that dying is more fun than screwing, Tongue in cheek,

        Or

        It will be forced on humanity by a lack of resources. Unfortunately, the latter seems to be the ONLY way that man learns collectively.

        JHK’s book is a precursor to the future, the real future. The optimistic deniers are going to be the first to die.

        • SteveK9 October 10, 2023 at 10:56 am #

          Optimistic Denier here (Climate Crisis too).

      • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 8:17 pm #

        Gates tried that in Africa.
        He was trying to introduce family planning, contraceptives, etc.

        But it doesn’t have a good look.
        So he switched tack.
        Now all useless breeding people should go.

        Hard to disagree with him.
        But it’s hard to agree on who is actually useless.
        A messianic billionaire with too much $?

        • OG October 9, 2023 at 10:54 pm #

          The bastardization of the Golden Rule:

          He who has the gold makes the rules.

      • Night Owl October 10, 2023 at 4:05 am #

        The mask is off!

        Everyone but you, right?

        • 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 6:44 am #

          We should start at the top.
          The few with the most, too much.

          It would lower the carbon footprint exponentially.
          All the homes, jets, yachts, cars for one person?

          We can call it trickle-down reduction.

          • Night Owl October 10, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

            Emotionally speaking I agree with you.

            But I have morals. Lifelong incarceration with meals made from crickets, etc., is fine.

      • SteveK9 October 10, 2023 at 10:57 am #

        Help out. Jump off a cliff.

      • malthuss October 10, 2023 at 12:53 pm #

        USA population has doubled since 1965—why?

        • RUfuckinKidding? October 10, 2023 at 8:29 pm #

          Simple mathematics (and too much fucking).

    • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 7:11 pm #

      The Israeli wind is blowing strands of hair into Nora O’Donell’s fleshy face. She’s so serious. She needs to let her hair down and dance.

  61. OG October 9, 2023 at 7:14 pm #

    @Mashed spuds zilch nada,

    Two days ago you demanded that we on CFN not even “start” to discuss the new war in the Middle East (so that we can remain 100% focused on your bizarre contention that millions became seriously ill from absolutely nothing at all!).

    But you have not admonished JHK yet for “going there” this morning.

    Waiting …

    • Night Owl October 10, 2023 at 12:13 pm #

      The host can write about whatever he wants. It is his blog, and I post here at his pleasure so to speak.

      This is why you have been banned multiple times, Hogg Man.

  62. Mike Sherman October 9, 2023 at 7:46 pm #

    Has anyone else noticed how, since our good pal MaryQ has gone sub-radar, the discourse no longer seems to give a shit about transsexuality?

    • Jarek October 9, 2023 at 7:55 pm #

      The idea of men getting to be human by becoming women enraged Mary. Only women are really human in her book.

      I think we are already human and should be recognized as such. Mary interpreted this as supporting the Trans-women. I kid you not.

      Now BRH is going to ask, Where are you getting this from?

    • Soul Forensics October 9, 2023 at 8:22 pm #

      Au contraire, Michelle Sherman!

    • Islander October 9, 2023 at 10:09 pm #

      Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

      • Islander October 9, 2023 at 10:09 pm #

        Right???

        • KesaAnna October 9, 2023 at 10:38 pm #

          I would guess we haven’t seen the last of Mary Queen.

          Like myself , a love – hate kinda thing , and all writers are exhibitionists.

          Solzhenitsyn wasn’t stupid ? But he was writing letters callng Stalin a jack ass and not a nice person ?!

          On the other hand , maybe Mary got run over by a bus ?

          You never know.

      • Mike Sherman October 10, 2023 at 8:35 pm #

        But there IS ‘evidence of absence’ in this case, is there not?

        There’s also an evidential absence of transsexuality as a topic of conversation.

        It sure looks now, with 20/20 hindsight, that my surmise that MaryQ was driving us ALL crazy (or crazier) with all her transphobia was correct.

        • Paula D October 12, 2023 at 12:21 pm #

          Understanding biological reality is “transphobia”?

          I think that every woman here, and most of the men, agree that men are men and women are women, and the attempt by TPTB to confuse children, and force everyone to cosplay with male fetishists is disgusting and must be opposed.

          Mary is missed.

    • Amman October 10, 2023 at 6:53 am #

      The discourse went to the dogs. I noticed that.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 10, 2023 at 8:18 am #

        People seem not to know what to do without Mary.

        • Mike Sherman October 10, 2023 at 8:32 pm #

          LOL!

          youtube.com/watch?v=mbFx0CbaIlY

  63. KesaAnna October 9, 2023 at 8:06 pm #

    ” Probably the worst part of Christianity is this “rising above the primitives” bit.

    It was 100% European Christian culture, including the fucked up genetics and mental defectiveness related to diets, etc, that created Ed Gein.

    No wonder he tried to find release from the diseased state in which he found himself… release in the direction of the repressed primitive. ”

    ” Probably the worst part of Christianity is this “rising above the primitives” bit. ”

    As I have stated ad naseum I suppose , I’m big on the Doctrine of Original sin.

    So I wouldn’t know.

    ” It was 100% European Christian culture, including the fucked up genetics and mental defectiveness related to diets, etc, that created Ed Gein.

    No wonder he tried to find release from the diseased state in which he found himself… release in the direction of the repressed primitive. ”

    As far as I know Ed Gein only killed one person , that we can establish definitively.

    And I have my doubts that corpses were really put off by tea parties ,
    or even fuck sessions , with Ed.

    I’m not saying murder is OK , but Ed Gein is not on my worst list either.

    A problem I have with population reduction is that I can’t picture anyone agreeing that , ” Your Genes are superior to my Genes ”

    which , it seems to me , is exactly what you are agreeing to.

    Low and behold , maybe I am stupid,

    because some say that a population collapse is coming ,

    that it is precisely those who believe most squarely in Social Darwinism who supposedly are not even replacing their numbers , supposedly not growing.

    Presumably the survivors will be the folks who did not get with the program , or did not get the memo.

    ” Deplorables ” , but perhaps by some other name.

    As for the Spanish and the Aztecs ;

    If you saw a priest in a suit of human skin , with his hair matted flat with years of dried blood , before an altar , and entire room , saturated black with blood ,

    might you flip the fuck out , and ethnocentricity be damned ?

    On the other hand , our Conquistador writes matter – factly about branding ownership on slaves faces , and some of those slaves being fucked .

    So somebody has branded you as their property on your face , and fucking you every night ,

    but then maybe you have a place to live , maybe even a McMansion , don’t have to worry , probably , about being tommorows human sacrifice , and maybe don’t even have to scrub toilets or chop sugar cane ,

    so …..

    Anyway , I don’t get the impression , no , that the Conquistadors were Care Bear Snowflakes.

    I suppose I could be missing something , but I have a hard time finding history that isn’t a horror movie.

    • Anthea October 10, 2023 at 9:39 am #

      There is undoubtedly a lot of history that’s a horror story, but there were many people in history who lived simple, good lives–and even quite a few of them who did good things. We can get the impression that it was mostly bad, but I think that may be because simple goodness is mostly unsung and uncelebrated. Nobody puts up fancy memorials to it or builds palaces to remind us of people who read the kids a bedtime story or took care of a sick animal, or how much fun we had cutting firewood in the snow with our friends.

      The good stuff is everywhere. More importantly, it is within our power to create a good world in our own small way–though often against some opposition. But it’s best not to get the idea that you will go down in history for it.

      • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 1:08 pm #

        The good stuff is dependent on the bad stuff. The good people are allowed to live their good lives after the land has been conquered by the bad people.

        As the Fathers said, echoing Christ, Satan is Rex Mundi.

        Hypocrites like the Quakers and Feminists are the worst. At least the Amish and Mennonites pray for their “English” protectors.

        Thank God that the Holy Spirit inspired the Church Fathers to create the Doctrine of Just War.

  64. Jarek October 9, 2023 at 8:16 pm #

    Good times produce weak men and hard, loveless women. Such people produce bad times. And bad times produce strong men and good women.

    • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 9:25 pm #

      This is a distillation of the 4th turning.

    • Anthea October 10, 2023 at 9:56 am #

      People have personal agency. If they’re weak and soft, it’s because they decided to be. They could just as well have decided to be a strong, reckonable person.

      You guys talk like you are all the helpless victims of fate. If you didn’t cultivate virtues, it is not because of the times you live in. It’s because you chose not to.

  65. KesaAnna October 9, 2023 at 8:47 pm #

    ” Trying to have it both ways. ”

    As I have said , as a little girl I wanted to be a soldier when I grew up.

    ( In the army of your sworn enemy . )

    And I’m a devout Catholic , if not exactly an Orthodox one.

    So I suppose it is hardly surprising that one of my minor hobbies is collecting Sisters of Battle toy soldiers and toy tanks , from the franchise Warhammer 40k.

    A problem with this hobby is that a great many of this demographic are people who can pay a hundred dollars at the drop of a hat for a piece of plastic.

    And they seem to think that makes them equal to a posthumous Medal of Honor winner.

    And they can read a comic book ( albeit a comic book with five and six syllable words ) makes them a genius.

    So last week , for example , no I wasn’t banned from a Discord server devoted to this hobby ,

    I quietly left the server because these people made me really fucking uncomfortable.

    I settled for another server on the same topic , not just because it was Sisters of Battle – specific ,

    but because one of the first things I saw was lots of tri color Perriwinkle Blue , white , and Pink flags.

    They are pretty colors for a flag , and being my perverse self , I suppose I will put such a flag on a Sisters unit flag barer eventually.

    Actually I don’t give a flying fuck about their politicized sexual fetishes ,

    so maybe I won’t have to change servers for awhile at least.

    Even hobbies are political.

    I think it is fucking silly.

    But I never win the vote.

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    • 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 9:11 pm #

      Has anyone clinically diagnosed your unrelenting narcissism?

      • KesaAnna October 9, 2023 at 9:21 pm #

        Good for you I suppose.

        I suppose if I were humble , then when you said something like ,

        ” Notice how the most Libtard , Woke person in the room goes full – Lindsay Graham in 5 seconds flat ? ” ( ? )

        I would say instead that I don’t know what the fuck you are talking about.

        And try to gaslight you , or the audience against you.

      • gustafson.robert.22 October 9, 2023 at 10:35 pm #

        In my limited experience, actual narcissists are almost never genuinely entertaining.

        • 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 6:33 am #

          Is that what you call a string of consecutives posts of all “I’s” and “Me’s”?

          Jazz Hands!
          “A clown with his pants falling down
          Or the dance that’s a dream of romance
          Or the scene where the villain is mean.
          That’s entertainment!”

  66. 100th Avatar October 9, 2023 at 9:09 pm #

    It is amusing watching the “alternative” news sites go full neocon.

    Full war hawk mode.

    Reflexive conservatism.

    One by one they all fall for the MIC ploy.

    Citizen Free Press might as well be The Weekly Standard at this point.

    Revolver is not far behind.

    Off the Press, which mostly masquerades as alt conservative, can’t contain its Anti-Trump opinion, is right there too.

    You can forget about the Evsngelical slanted sites, they’re all in.

    It’s so easy to manipulate the based.
    It’s quite hilarious.

    Mitch would call it genius.
    I tip my hat

    • mitchellc October 9, 2023 at 11:36 pm #

      You’re coming around.

      Just remember, recognition of talent/genius, maybe even grudging respect, does not equate to advocacy.

      “That’s some catch, that Catch-22,’ he observed.
      ‘It’s the best there is,’ Doc Daneeka agreed.

      Yossarian saw it clearly in all its spinning reasonableness. There was an elliptical precision about its perfect pairs of parts that was graceful and shocking, like good modern art …”

      If the goal in life is to score as much trim, eat as much steak, and drink as much wine as one desires, all without too much effort, high remuneration and minimal stress, then it behooves one to understand reality.

      And the reality is that very clever, cunning people captured banking and media long before anyone alive today was even born.

      You can complain, you can cynically opine, you can show how erudite and informed you are by listing off a pedigree of supposed alternative sites, but it doesn’t alter the fact that Bernays, et al figured out how to manipulate and craft public opinion a long time ago.

      What we observe today is a real world demonstration of how effective this management process is in shaping and supporting an official narrative that always serves the interests of the ownership class.

      • 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 6:38 am #

        Unsue if any of those sites demonstrate erudition.
        Just a few of many (ostensibly) non-corporate “conservative” news aggergators.

        Only Zero Hedge refuses to go full Bolton.

        • 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 8:48 am #

          Aggregators

  67. KesaAnna October 9, 2023 at 9:14 pm #

    For some background —

    ( A FEW folks like my writings. )

    I wrote some fan fiction about about a tree that grows in the Kaurava System that is very much like cocoa called Eldar Trees.

    It is made into chocolate bars , marketted under the name ” Harlequin Chocolate ” which is a 160% effective birth control pill , with the common side – effect with habitual use of sterility.

    In my opinion it read like a dry sociological essay.

    And the sole dirty picture was a picture of a candy bar wrapper that featured a quite conventional Ballerina in mid – flight .

    And another dry , sociological essay about a long – lasting recreational stimulant and aphrodisiac , the delivery device for which was a very large Tarantula spider . The drug was the poison in the fangs of the spider that it uses on its prey ,

    But as I said , in humans the effect is a stimulant and an aphrodisiac.

    The spider is not particularly aggressive toward humans.

    So you have a pet , and get your fix too.

    Whooa , Katie bar the door !

    They didn’t like that fiction.

  68. KesaAnna October 9, 2023 at 9:35 pm #

    ” But ok I will indulge you in your last few weeks on Earth: ”

    Mikoyan and Molotov hung out with Lenin , i.e. two of the oldest butchers on the block .

    Pretty colorless though.

    Molotov lived into the 1980’s , and Mikoyan lived to see a McDonald’s on Red Square.

    I suspect God takes people when it suits him , and we never know when that will be.

    • KesaAnna October 9, 2023 at 11:37 pm #

      youtube.com/watch?v=PVn6b9QQZeM

      ^ Is the song horrific smut ,

      Or beautiful ?

      I don’t know.

      Over a life time I reckon 10% of my dreams are nightmares.

      The other 90% are wonderful.

      Funny thing though —

      Christ said , ” My Kingdom is not of this Earth. ”

      My nightmares seem to be very much about this world.

      In dwelling on the wonderful dreams I have I came to the shocking — at least strong suspicion — that 90 % of the characters in my dreams are dead people.

      The remaining 10% are people who might as well be dead. People who are far away by choice.

      And the settings of the dreams —

      ” We’ll be able to fly … ”

      Levitation and flying without an airplane are common in my dreams.

      How much levitation and flying around without an airplane do you see in this world ?

      I suspect the locations and settings in my dreams are not on this planet.

  69. KesaAnna October 9, 2023 at 10:04 pm #

    ” All aboard the Peace Train! It’s an elevator going down to the bowels of Hell. ”

    Lol , I love this song ;

    youtube.com/watch?v=SsYOAIR4L_w

    I’ll admit it didn’t work out very well though .

    The Love train didn’t include fucking a few 16 year olds , 15 year olds , or ….

    That’s a God damned lie.

    What pisses me off is that now they want to blame the Catholic Church as if it were unique to them ,

    when the Church was just doing the usual me – too and sucking up.

    Rather like Malleus Malificarum.

    wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_Maleficarum

    Sure , it was written by a Catholic Priest , and got a favorable reception in many Catholic circles.

    In many other Catholic circles they were horrified by it.

    In any case , it primarily took off with secular types , pushing secular agendas.

  70. Islander October 9, 2023 at 10:10 pm #

    Tiem to check up on

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    • Islander October 9, 2023 at 10:10 pm #

      planet Earth.

    • OG October 9, 2023 at 10:47 pm #

      Tiem Amen Squared

    • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 1:10 pm #

      Drunk posting? Or sleeping pill posting?

  71. Islander October 9, 2023 at 10:46 pm #

    An interesting comment at MoA:

    “This fiasco reminds me of a similar fiasco a decade ago in Benghazi Libya. Remember when “the press” assured everyone that a random ragtag group of individuals spontaneously got together to attack the US embassy, because they had all watched a stupid YouTube video? Everyone was 100% certain this was the cause and the effect. The same clique of foreign policy “experts” were running things at the White House. They had been watching the whole time. They had warned the Ambassador not to travel to Benghazi. They assured the world that there were zero US soldiers nearby that might have helped.

    A few weeks or a month later, the initial story proved complete rubbish. There was a US navy SEAL team a short helicopter ride away, and they were told to stand down. There was a CIA safe house with private contractor soldiers less then 15 minutes away, they too were told to stand down. The YouTube video had less than 10 views prior to the attack.

    Turned out the CIA safe house was collecting Qaddafi’s weapons, and shipping them to “moderate terrorist groups” in Syria. The definition of “moderate” was “willing to fight Syria’s government”. Rival terrorist groups were not happy at the uneven distribution of weapons, and how it would effect their power in the region. The YouTube video had been watched by less than 10 people, none of whom were anywhere near the middle east. Everything the media and the Obama foreign policy team (NSC, State Dept, DoD, etc) told the public was wrong, and authorities knew it was wrong from the beginning.

    Deja vu all over again. The same foreign policy team is in the White House. Their story is very quickly proving to be full of holes. We don’t know the truth, but we already know the official story doesn’t add up.”
    +++++++++++++++++

    I must say the testosterone squirting here on this CFN thread is getting out of hand.

    • mitchellc October 9, 2023 at 11:50 pm #

      CFN is an excellent tier 2 site, the preparatory level before full awareness.

      Look at how the host continues to periodically revert to politics, or actually seems to expect justice to produce anything other than state victory.

      However. MoA may be too strong in a pure, undiluted form for even advanced geo-pol students. I mean think about it, you have Chomsky, Hedges, et al other testing wits.

      CFN provides a nice bridge that serves to spread the truth to tertiary and possibly even marginally mainstream thought for curious readers.

      • OG October 10, 2023 at 12:35 am #

        “et al other”? Your wit failed that test.

        ***
        C’mon, Mitchy – show us your GLT.

      • Anthea October 10, 2023 at 10:06 am #

        For a linguist, Chomsky sure does have a hard time communicating.

      • Anthea October 10, 2023 at 10:06 am #

        For a linguist, Chomsky sure does have a hard time communicating.

        • Ron Anselmo October 10, 2023 at 1:18 pm #

          You can say that again.

          • Ron Anselmo October 10, 2023 at 1:21 pm #

            Anthea – you’re getting like my wife. Unfortunately for me, her “finger problem” involves the “Buy Now” button.

    • Not_GeorgeT October 10, 2023 at 12:14 am #

      I’ve mentioned a number of times on here how I think it is good to let it marinate for a few days before reaching conclusions.

      I’ll go with your intro re: Benghazi as an example. It looked a lot different with a little passage of time.

      The photo of the (I believe Turk) fellow doing arms deals, he standing outside the building (why is he there?) about 2 weeks prior to the Benghazi event, is down the memory hole. Can’t find the photo.

      It’s always in the details. I don’t think the photo was intended for public consumption. Picture worth a thousand words.

      • KesaAnna October 10, 2023 at 12:20 am #

        Or at least for a few Khadaffi looked pretty bad ,

        Until Team America World Police gave us open air slave markets in Libya.

        Or so I hear.

    • KesaAnna October 10, 2023 at 12:15 am #

      I haven’t really been paying attention , truth be told.

      But it already seems fishy to me.

      Gaza , Gaza , Gaza , Gaza , Gaza .

      My geographic knowledge isn’t encyclopedic , but I seem to vaguely recall that Gaza was always low rent.

      They always put castles and shit there —- and the garrisoned troops cursed their luck.

      What about the Temple Mount ?

      Maybe it had nothing to do with Mohammed , but they will never let it go .

      I wouldn’t.

      And if they lose it , no butchers bill will be too high to get it back.

      That would be my view if I were them.

      So , yeah , something doesn’t read right.

  72. KesaAnna October 9, 2023 at 11:00 pm #

    ” Even a courageous Op-Ed in a major Israeli newspaper had the courage, now, in all the rawness to blame Yahoo: ”

    Lol ,

    At first I thought you meant literally Yahoo.

    The place where I have my ancient email .

    I CAN see terrorism being blamed on the internet.

    Round up all those CFN people for a safer , kinder and gentler world !

  73. OG October 9, 2023 at 11:55 pm #

    Scott Ritter explains that Israeli forces concentrated in door-to-door combat to quell Hamas in Gaza will result in Hezbollah attacking north Israel from Lebanon, Syria attacking the Golan Heights and Iran opportunistically engaging with, “Now is the time to end the Israeli threat once and for all!”

    bitchuteDOTcom/video/TfpM2dKsehUR/

    This could get very messy.

    • OG October 10, 2023 at 12:17 am #

      Ritter: “Look, there was a day and age where America could put 750,000 to a million troops in the Middle East in a matter of weeks and change the outcome of any conflict. That day has long passed. Today we have a military that’s a shadow of its former self incapable of meaningfully projecting power into areas of the world that had been hardened against that very possibility.

      “Iran’s ability to sink American ships at a distance has changed the algorithms that are used there. Iran knows this and America knows this.

      “The United States today is confronting its impotence in Europe and in Asia. Right now, I can guarantee you in the Situation Room with the White House, the Pentagon is saying, ‘Boss, we can’t do it! We can’t do anymore! We’re already broke. If this thing blows up in the Middle East, it is game-set-match.’

      “We’re done as an economy because if Iran does get pulled in and then we respond – there goes all the oil production capability in the Middle East. And that’s the end of the modern era of humanity because without that oil, the economy of the world will come screeching to a halt.”

      • JohnAZ October 10, 2023 at 11:57 am #

        OG

        Remember that the role of the aircraft carrier is no to survive, but to deliver its payload of aircraft before it is destroyed. The carrier task force is a deterrent to troublemakers as they know what nuke equipped carrier aircraft can do.

        If you want ships that survive to fight again and again, the battleships are the tickets. 16 inches of armor plate in the Iowa class group makes for a good defense. In Long Beach, the Iowa is a good example of what a weapons platform a battleship can be. Good for shore bombardment, good for task force defense, good for ship to ship combat, the perfect naval war machine.

        So why are we spending trillions on Gerald Ford class carriers that can be dispatched pretty easily.

        Midway, the first carrier based battle, was extremely lucky for the US. One thing that has been ignored by the carrier fans in the MIC is that all four carriers from Japan and the Yorktown were destroyed in the battle. That is pretty piss poor as an attack option.

        As an example. In a blow up in the Straits of Hormuz, we could park the New Jersey right in the middle and just dare Iran to bring out its pesky navy. Another would be the use of a battleship as an air defense platform leading for a carrier group.

        The Iowa was awesome with its missile systems before it was decommissioned. Typical Deep State stupidity.

        If nukes gets involved at sea, everyone loses. I happen to believe that we gave up too much fire power when we retired the Iowa, New Jersey, Missouri and Wisconsin.

        • Not_GeorgeT October 10, 2023 at 8:57 pm #

          Carrier groups have been used in low intensity conflicts to gain air superiority with minimal risk to the carrier itself.

          To be in such a conflict, 3 carrier groups are required. 12 hours on, 12 hours off. The 12 off is to prepare for the next 12 on. Three are required because if one is lost (as in sunk or catastrophically disabled) there is enough offensive depth to maintain air superiority.

          Until recently I tracked the movement of carrier groups as a sort of indicator regarding where a major outbreak of hostilities might occur. Adding the Charles DeGaulle into the mix was important because it could be the third carrier group.

          The weapons systems developed and deployed over the past few years by countries such as the Russian Federation have made the carrier group obsolete in a dispute with a major player.

          Irans development of a small craft navy able to swarm a carrier group is another approach with is rather low tech with high potential return.

          A few years back the Russian federation did some precision missile work from small craft in the Caspian Sea towards the area of the Persian Gulf. The Theodore Roosevelt group left the area immediately.

          Artful diplomacy bests armed conflict any day.

  74. KesaAnna October 10, 2023 at 12:05 am #

    My greatest concern is those ASPCA mother fuckers.

    I’m afraid eventually you will have to be rich to have a dog , a cat , or a rabbit.

    Leaving a dog out in rain will be abuse , but so will letting a dog eat off your plate.

    90% of the dogs will be fucking miserable , but that won’t be front page news .

    And meanwhile the rich will rape dogs just because they are bored.

    • RD3 October 10, 2023 at 9:21 am #

      Dogs are now considered “police officers” and dogs who are killed “in the “line of duty” now have “funerals.”

      When a police dog dies of old age, the news now reports on it.

    • malthuss October 10, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

      surgery for a small dog can be $5000.

      can you afford a sick pup?

  75. KesaAnna October 10, 2023 at 12:52 am #

    Speaking of Narcissism, and somebody mentioned Oscar Wilde a while back.

    As I recall , Oscar Wilde wound up doing a stretch as a sex offender because HE insisted on justice.

    Stupid Sap.

    After that I reckon he was too broken and tired for narcissism.

    Sort of like a 19th century version of ;

    youtube.com/watch?v=fF3aPT7C51Y

    ” A young nigga got it bad ’cause I’m brown
    And not the other color, so police think they have the authority to kill a minority ”

    ” Searching my car, looking for the product ,
    Thinkin’ every nigga is sellin’ narcotics ,

    You’d rather see me in the pen’
    Than me and Lorenzo rolling in a Benz-o ”

    ” The jury has found you guilty of being a redneck, whitebread, chicken shit motherfucker
    But wait, that’s a lie! That’s a god-damn lie!
    Get him out of here (I want justice!)
    Get him the fuck out my face (I want justice!)
    Out, right now!
    (Fuck you, you black motherfuckers!) ”

    Can you dig it Oscar ?

    Tucker Carlson seems to like Ice Cube well enough.

    Easy – E is dead now , gone to Hell , or gone to Heaven , who knows ?

    Meanwhile ,

    I got somethin’ to say ;

    Fuck the IDF .

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  76. rundmc October 10, 2023 at 1:16 am #

    I’m re-reading the Book of Revelations, so there’s that…..

  77. Trash Poet October 10, 2023 at 1:31 am #

    Bogart

    A new fresh war in the Middle East
    Painful, pusy, infected yeast
    Does not affect in the very least
    My family’s opulent Thanksgiving feast

    The dead are tallied throughout the day
    The missing never get their say
    Now will Hezbollah join the fray?
    And will Syria soon be in play?

    Ships traverse the Atlantic Ocean
    Hurried deployment, swift commotion
    Satan pours his evil potion
    “Don’t forget your sunscreen lotion!”

    Egypt with their intel claim
    While evil men rob and maim
    So much carnage in God’s name
    Seventy years of this sick game

    Saudis wait patiently on the side
    What is truth and who has lied?
    Sherlock Holmes’ logic applied
    Leave the berth both deep and wide

    Iranian drones dot the sky
    Golan Heights – don’t ask why
    Shiitake farm, my oh my!
    ‘Armageddon It!’ T-shirt hippy tie-dye

    America is now at its wit’s end
    Fiat currency was just pretend
    Boiling over, this will not mend
    “Don’t Bogart that joint, my friend.”

    • KesaAnna October 10, 2023 at 1:42 am #

      I likes it.

    • BackRowHeckler October 11, 2023 at 8:53 am #

      Good stuff, especially the last stanza.

  78. KesaAnna October 10, 2023 at 1:44 am #

    I’ll make a prediction ;

    You will be broke.

    The police will bust your ass for vagrancy.

    Your cell mates will be Hamas and Hezbollah.

    Welcome to the team.

    • SoftStarLight October 10, 2023 at 2:03 am #

      And then you can wallow in your victory?

      • OG October 10, 2023 at 2:30 am #

        Bad news? Shoot the messenger!

      • KesaAnna October 10, 2023 at 2:55 am #

        Hey , thanks for reading.

    • SoftStarLight October 10, 2023 at 2:21 am #

      I want to speak to the warden right now. The commissary better have each important piece of my seven step nightly skin care routine available. Y’all are not going to get away with human rights abuses.

      • KesaAnna October 10, 2023 at 3:02 am #

        Lol !

        ” reading my rights and shit , it’s all junk ! ”

        You know the score.

      • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 1:16 pm #

        Russians noticed that Jews got better food in prison so they took to calling themselves Jews. It was so easy that some of them migrated to Israel – even skin heads.

        The Moral: If you going to be unfair, you better be aware enough and tough enough to back it up.

  79. OG October 10, 2023 at 2:36 am #

    Speaking of bad news – I found out today that my Mom & Dad (76 & 77, respectively) are going to go get jabbed yet again on Thursday! I tried to give my Mom (the more medically savvy of the two) some information but she, for the first time in decades, told me to, “Button it.”

    It’s like a bad horror movie.

    • Beryl of Oyl October 10, 2023 at 8:22 am #

      I hear you.

  80. KesaAnna October 10, 2023 at 2:59 am #

    On the other hand ,

    as Jarek was so kind to point out ,

    Hezbollah , a militia , stopped the Americans and their employees cold in Lebanon.

    Wait a fucking minute , where did a militia get that kind of fucking money ?

    Call me a conspiracy theorist ,

    Maybe from the same people that put drugs on your street , and tell you we are the enemy ?

    Hezbollah !

    Hezbollah !

    Welcome to the team !

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    • SoftStarLight October 10, 2023 at 3:22 am #

      I don’t even know what is going on anymore. Like, the things I was protesting two months ago are falling by the wayside because stuff in the world is happening so fast that nobody cares about the outrage that was two months ago. East Palestine, OH? Might as well be some far off inconspicuous piece of territory a bunch of nobodies fought over in the 13th century at this point. I’m just tired and I am getting to the point where I hate politics. Well anyway, I hope this team has cool logos, and colors and mascots and all that good jazz lol.

      • KesaAnna October 10, 2023 at 3:44 am #

        Don’t fret ,

        you can be in my gang !

        Time for a North Korean anthem ;

        youtube.com/watch?v=OtSS4xcdXpI

        I’ll only make you hook with the pretty girls.

        I promise.

        • KesaAnna October 10, 2023 at 4:11 am #

          Hey ! Just noticed , there’s no jack boots in my favorite vid ,

          but two Totenkopf.

          Fuckin – A ! Yay !

          • Night Owl October 10, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

            Totenköpfe

        • PeteAtomic October 10, 2023 at 8:20 am #

          ooof

          I think I lost IQ points from watching that

          hehe

          and there wasn’t much to begin with! lol

        • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 1:33 pm #

          Have you stayed in touch with any of the girls from the old brigade, Miss Kitty?

    • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 1:22 pm #

      They divined the malicious Zionist intent and they had been digging in for years. They were ready for them. And of course, they are the Apple of Iran’s eye, and have the ability and courage to use what has been given to them. AND they are generous with the people. It doesn’t all go to weapons and the military.

      Lebanon actually has forests in some places. It is a much nicer place in terms of climate and flora than Palestine is. Part of the old Outremeer, perhaps.

      The whole area should have stayed a Templar Protectorate.

  81. The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 3:24 am #

    The Man They Call Zazelle July 12, 2023 at 2:17 pm:

    Israel may prove a sitting duck in the middle of wolves as things slide downward.

    I never thought it was a good idea for it or for States for that matter. Come on Jarek. You already know I’m an anarchist.

    Some people confuse/conflate Judaism with the State and the State with people in it. Like Nazi Germany, some Jews bailed before it got worse and if I was living in Israel, I’d start to make plans to bail.

    There. You got it first from me. Exclusive to CFN…

    ——

    Jarek July 12, 2023 at 2:57 pm:

    Just think, they were offered Madagascar. The Muslims have the power of the womb!…

    • KesaAnna October 10, 2023 at 4:25 am #

      My assessment too.

  82. KesaAnna October 10, 2023 at 4:23 am #

    ” Civilizations stomp up on hob nailed boots and descend in silken slippers. ”

    When I’m digging ditches , scrubbing toilets and shit , give me the ballet slippers. Safety shoes are too much like fucking work.

    But when it’s time for dress up , gimme those hob nailed boots baby !

    The West was just jealous because the Fascists and the Communists looked sexy.

    • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 1:36 pm #

      Yeah, why not thigh high hob nailed boots? Where from this utter lack of imagination? Why do we have to do all the work for them?

  83. Beryl of Oyl October 10, 2023 at 6:44 am #

    “Settler colonization”.

    We’ve been hearing a lot about that as of late.

    Where is it coming from?

    Why Harvard, of course.

    Fortunately there are some good people on this:

    “Here are some of the current Harvard courses on “decolonization,” promoting theories of “anticolonial struggle” and “how BIPOC communities forged [intersectional] solidarities to rebel against global white supremacy.”

    In practice, decolonization means Gaza-style violence.”

    https://x.com/realchrisrufo/status/1711452998570774872?s=20

    • BackRowHeckler October 10, 2023 at 8:40 am #

      I see a lot of this ‘Settler Colonization’ bullsh#t on YouTube, mostly on Climate Change sites featuring weasely academics sponsored by the UN & WEF, IMF etc. It’s usually mixed in with ‘degrowth’ and ‘anti global north’ rhetoric. What it boils down to is a Hate Whitey screed voiced by people with a deep down desire to dismantle western civilization. Another recurring feature is the need to eliminate 5/8s of the human population — and they make it clear who they want to exterminate! I classify these people as Hostis Humani Generis, Enemies of the Human Race.

    • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 1:39 pm #

      Yet Berry is against the violence inherent in the founding of the United States. The Indians had to be conquered and dispossessed so we could take their land.

      Native Americans? They had nothing to do with the United States. They were just in the way of the real Native Americans – US!

  84. Beryl of Oyl October 10, 2023 at 6:45 am #

    “As others have pointed out, keep this in mind when the left calls white Americans “colonizers.” This is the fate they wish to see for you and your family. They aren’t even trying to hide it.”

    https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1711112171751346435?s=20

  85. Beryl of Oyl October 10, 2023 at 6:48 am #

    This man used to be a New Yorker:

    “Israel is not a settler colony

    Israel was not formed to replace the native population. The native population included Jews already. The Arabs were and are welcome to stay and are represented in the Israeli government.

    Also, Palestine was NOT A COUNTRY

    It was a place name

    Last thing – the Palestinian identity is made up. They were (and are) Arabs.”

    https://x.com/WR4NYGov/status/1711362207446172158?s=20

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    • Islander October 10, 2023 at 7:59 am #

      The native Jewish population in Palestine should not be confused with the Zionist immigrant/settlers.

      NB: The Jewish community in Palestine before the establishment of the State of Israel [was called the Yishuv]. “Old Yishuv” refers to the Orthodox Jewish communities which had existed in the country prior to the start of Zionist immigration. These were largely hostile to Zionism and lived mainly in the four holy cities of Hebron, Jerusalem, Safad, and Tiberias.

      httpX://www.jstor.org/stable/261239?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents, n1

      • BackRowHeckler October 10, 2023 at 8:47 am #

        Zionist Immigrant Settlers?

        You mean remnants of the European Jewish population who somehow survived the Holocaust looking for a Homeland.?

        • 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 8:56 am #

          You do understand that the idea of Israel and its repopulation existed long before both world wars right?

          Why do those who not know history feel the need to teach it?

          • BackRowHeckler October 10, 2023 at 9:09 am #

            I knew that, Avatar. It goes back to the Balfour Agreement from the WW1 era.

          • 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 9:48 am #

            It predates that

          • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 1:44 pm #

            The Balfour Agreement – an Alliance with the very powers of Hell.

            The Germans knew that the German Jews had suddenly betrayed them during WW1, whereas before they had been neutral or even patriotic. What they didn’t know was why (add italics).

            At Versailles, they discovered the reason. Their rage was off the Richter scale. People who had tried to cover for the Jews up to that point just gave up. The middle ground was gone. You were either for Germany or against.

    • DaveO907 October 10, 2023 at 2:55 pm #

      The first on the record mention of the yet-unnamed Zionism as any kind of movement made manifest was speculated in terms of the-then Rothschild family leader sending his emissaries to Turkey to make an offer on Palestine to the cash-strapped Ottoman pasha-sultan.
      That was reported in U.S. newspapers in 1832, relatively long before even Theodore Herzl.

  86. Beryl of Oyl October 10, 2023 at 6:49 am #

    “No, the Palestinians never controlled the land. The history of the land some call Palestine is full of others controlling the land:

    British
    Ottomans
    Mongols
    Crusaders
    Egyptians maybe
    Roman Empire

    No Palestinian government … ever”

    https://x.com/WR4NYGov/status/1711353554316001574?s=20

    • Amman October 10, 2023 at 7:27 am #

      Palestine is and has been a heartland region of the Islamic-Arab world for 1300 years.

      Way before European countries existed.

      • 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 8:13 am #

        Is this a joke?
        Bronze Age Greece 1400-1300 BC?
        It is now 2023

        Do some rudimentary maths

        • Amman October 11, 2023 at 8:04 am #

          No joke at all. And it ahs nothing to do with Meth.`

          Bronze age Greece has nothing to do with European countries.

          You do not even know who lived on the islands.

          • 100th Avatar October 11, 2023 at 3:12 pm #

            Oh, you’re talking out of your ass… continue on

          • 100th Avatar October 11, 2023 at 3:17 pm #

            Even though European civilizations were involved in the Levant and further east well before the 7th century birth of Islam.

            Well before.

            “Countries” what a stupid assertion.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 10, 2023 at 8:27 am #

        Islam doesn’t predate the Romans.

        • Amman October 11, 2023 at 8:06 am #

          True but I am not so sure Rome wants to be identified with present day European countries.

          Perhaps, maybe, regrettably, possibly on a racial basis?

          • Amman October 11, 2023 at 8:09 am #

            (would want)

      • Islander October 10, 2023 at 8:47 am #

        The Palestinians inhabited the land. They also owned it, and their houses. And had the deeds to prove it. These documents have been systematically destroyed by the Zionists.

        Hence the importance, too, of the keys that Palestinians families have retained to the dwellings from which they were driven in the Nakba.

        The Palestinian key is an important symbol.

        httpsX://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_key

        httpX://www.independent.co.uk/voices/palestine-keys-return-home-israel-palestinians-a8398341.html

        • benr October 10, 2023 at 1:22 pm #

          Deeded to them by whom?

          I can create all sorts of documents it does not mean I own anything.
          Palestinians are like modern black South Africans they came after everything was built up and started saying they owned stuff.
          It does not mean they have any ancestral claim to anything.
          They are literally squatters no one wants including fellow Arabs.

      • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 1:45 pm #

        He probably thinks that the Ancient Egyptians were Black, too.

    • Islander October 10, 2023 at 7:36 am #

      It sounds like the idea of decolonization never entered your noggin. You are spewing this genocidal “might makes right” testosterone like the the Big Guys on this board.

      What in the world do you have against the Palestinians and their right to life?

      The one item you left off “your” (my) list is the Zionists and the financial power of the Rothschilds that backed them in their takeover of historic Palestine. Which, BTW, everyone referred to as Palestine until the new moniker, Israel, was unveiled. .

      I recommend this
      httpX://www.unz.com/kbarrett/gazans-break-out-of-worlds-biggest-concentration-camp/

      as a corrective.

      Here is a thumbnail etymology of the “Palestine”:

      “from Latin Palestina (name of a Roman province), from Greek Palaistin? (Herodotus), from Hebrew Pelesheth “Philistia, land of the Philistines” (see Philistine). In Josephus, the country of the Philistines; extended under Roman rule to all Judea and later to Samaria and Galilee.”

      • Cavepainter October 10, 2023 at 8:05 am #

        Oh please, no more attempting to tease from history cover for the monsters who lack impulse control against violent exploitative acts. Always “waiting in the wings” is that approximate 30% of any demographic that has no impulse control except for peer and agency enforcement, subsequently easily become the tools of sociopaths who occur in populations at ratio of one to twenty-five, Stalin & Hitler good examples.

        • Cavepainter October 10, 2023 at 10:28 am #

          My error, should have worded it differently, as “…lack impulse control, hence without peer or agency restraint commit beastial acts”.

      • Beryl of Oyl October 10, 2023 at 8:31 am #

        Who is ‘spewing’ might makes right?

      • benr October 10, 2023 at 1:35 pm #

        That is an easy one to field.
        They have zero industry.
        They can’t feed themselves,
        They can’t power themselves.
        They can’t water themselves.
        Forget about treating their own sewage.
        Third world would be a kind description of them.
        They are dependent on the world to provide them money for food.
        Who gets stuck dealing with this welfare state?
        Israel and they constantly attack Israel they are literally in an open air prison.
        They should all be force moved to Jordan where they originally were required to go much like the Indian/Pakistani separation and then all of Gaza leveled.

        No other country wants them because they are a burden to whoever gets stuck with them.
        Any other country unlucky enough to have them denies them basic rights like voting yet they can and do vote in Israel and they even take part in government when they are not voting in terrorist groups.

  87. Beryl of Oyl October 10, 2023 at 6:58 am #

    The CIA doesn’t give out information, they only give out disinformation.

    They want everybody confused.

    I remember in school ,when they tried to teach us how World War One started, and it still didn’t make sense to me.

    When something doesn’t make sense, it probably isn’t true.

    It does not make any sense that no one was alert to the possibility of an attack on the 50 year anniversary of the Yom Kippur War.

    • BackRowHeckler October 10, 2023 at 8:01 am #

      It appears Israel was caught unaware & taken by surprise, Beryl.

      Black Swan Events are a recurrent theme on this board.

      It’s not easy to keep one’s guard up, to be prepared for every possible scenario, to game everything, to remain in a never ending state of alert (as Israel is forced to do). Fatigue sets in. The irony here is that the young people at the Peace & Music rave caught in the initial assault were those most likely disposed to a “Two State Solution” & open to reapproachment with Palestine. What good did it do them? How is it in June, 1941, Stalin was unaware of 3,500,000 German troops massing on his western border? Or the US Army caught by surprise by the Tet Offensive in 1968? History is full of such examples,

      • OG October 10, 2023 at 12:17 pm #

        Very good points, Heckler, but Egypt claims that they told Mossad ten days prior to the attack.

        Perhaps the Peace & Music rave was not ironic so much as planned. Perhaps these ne’er-do-wells could be sacrificed in the greater cause for Greater Israel. Perhaps.

        ***
        This raid was conducted across the most secure border on earth. Fatigue my bum! There is a picture of every metre every ten second fed into AI.

        ***
        Those lucky knuckleheads! They regularly get caught screwin’ the pooch but people still keep bringing their dogs for a “walk.”

      • malthuss October 10, 2023 at 12:58 pm #

        appearances can be deceiving.

        did Israelis know? maybe.

      • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 1:53 pm #

        They were massing because the Russian troops were massing on their Eastern border.

        This is right “up there” with you post anent Hitler taking orders from the Mufti.

        The Big Three who are the most right in terms of the Facts: Jarek, 100, and Mitch.

        Yet we each do a different thing with the facts. Jarek is for his People. 100 is for his People, the morally regenerate, and though he won’t admit it, his ethnicity of blood. And Mitch is an Ideologue of the school of what happens is what is supposed to happen. The good are merely the Wise who can adapt or even turn the inevitable to their own profit. An individualist who worships Power!

      • Amman October 11, 2023 at 9:26 am #

        Yeah, it sure seems all of Israel and the whole ‘effing world were surprised tho. Don’t it?

    • 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 8:51 am #

      You mean an assassination a stone bridge in Sarajevo didn’t convince you?
      Frank who?
      Yeah right

      • 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 8:51 am #

        Franz

  88. Beryl of Oyl October 10, 2023 at 8:42 am #

    DECOLONIZATION!!!

    Many woke “social justice” activists and academics are cheering on Hamas attack on Israel as an act of DECOLONIZATION, all while justifying, ignoring, and minimizing the rape and murder of women and children.

    So, let’s talk about Decolonization,

    A Thread?

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1711495616021324282.html

    • BackRowHeckler October 10, 2023 at 8:55 am #

      One thing that puzzles me is that the Jewish people I know — my own neighbors — still support lefty Dem candidates.

      • 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 9:54 am #

        Because many believe that war, expansionism, violence, imperialism, and racism breeds atrocities like the recent incidents.

        Why is this a mystery?

        • Beryl of Oyl October 10, 2023 at 10:16 am #

          If you think those things breed atrocities, how do you vote for a Hillary?

          • benr October 10, 2023 at 1:37 pm #

            Because leftist are stupid.

          • 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

            Beaner,

            They’re stupid.
            They control the government(s), the media, the education systems, and have most of the $$

            If they’re stupid, what are you?

        • BackRowHeckler October 10, 2023 at 2:15 pm #

          The Israeli Empire, at 8,700 square miles, has to be the smallest empire in the history of the world. At least with the mighty American Empire, with colonies like Guam, Midway & the US Virgin Islands, we have something to work with lol.

          • 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 7:01 pm #

            And Puerto Rico

  89. Hypatia October 10, 2023 at 8:53 am #

    Novelist Margaret Atwood writes that when she asked a male friend why men feel threatened by women, he answered, “They are afraid women will laugh at them.” When she asked a group of women why they feel threatened by men, they said, “We’re afraid of being killed.”

    Native American Proverb
    “A woman’s highest calling is to lead a man to his soul so as to unite him with Source. A man’s greatest calling is to protect woman so that she is free to walk the earth unharmed”.

    How are we doing on that, folks?

    • BackRowHeckler October 10, 2023 at 8:58 am #

      Not good. Watch some of the video of Israeli women, young and old, being dragged thru the streets of Gaza, violated & bleeding, (if you can stand it).

      • 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 9:52 am #

        Get off the boob tube
        It’s all maximized for emotive control.
        Shock
        Anger
        Revenge

        The boob toob rube loop

        • OG October 10, 2023 at 11:30 am #

          You are correct.

        • BackRowHeckler October 10, 2023 at 1:06 pm #

          Actually I saw those scenes on a YouTube channel broadcast from New Delhi. All I have is over air TV, and I don’t have the TV on all that much.

        • BackRowHeckler October 10, 2023 at 1:07 pm #

          Altho I do admit to being a Rube.

      • OG October 10, 2023 at 11:35 am #

        Heckler, comparing a year and a half of the US-financed war in Ukraine and the less than four days since “Israel’s 9/11” – which war have you seen more footage of?

        Not per day, of course, but in total.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 10:54 am #

      How are we doing on that, folks?” ~ Hypatia

      I think we should take what naked apes say/write with a grain of salt.

    • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 1:59 pm #

      In other words, Women are above men. Men simply exist to serve them. They are not really people, just tools or instruments. Thus women have every right to divorce men on a whim and take everything they can.

      It follows logically from this bullshit premise.

      Luckily for them, the Indians didn’t really believe this. The Tribes were overwhelmingly Patriarchical. Even the Iroquois who had a Council of Women Elders who could depose a Chief, were. The power was very seldom used, apparently. The women were traditional in other words – not like Western women of today who won’t let men lead them.

    • Soul Forensics October 10, 2023 at 2:58 pm #

      The Woke are so far gone that they even turned on uber-feminist icon Margaret Atwood when she was one of the only ones in the literary community who supported Steven Galloway when he was railroaded and destroyed by false sexual harassment allegations at the height of the metoo insanity.

      The reaction to her rational response? Outrage, ad homs, “you were never a true feminist!”, etc etc. This is Atwood, remember — the woman who thought almost every man had a scheming desire to enslave half the human race in a Christian theocracy.

      I love it when the Wokeists eat themselves.

  90. stonned October 10, 2023 at 9:15 am #

    “But, really, I must ask: are you not a little tired of being a country that doesn’t know what it’s doing?”

    FYI …

    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly, all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”
    – Declaration of Independence

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  91. Q. Shtik October 10, 2023 at 9:59 am #

    Read this on the internet… is it too good to be true?

    The “Forever Battery” Almost Guarantees EV Mass Adoption
    Electric vehicles (EVs) account for less than 1% of vehicles on the road in the U.S. today.

    But soon, every other house could have one in its driveway.

    A tiny company based in California has developed a game-changing new battery.

    Coined the “Forever Battery”… it could soon have a 1,000-mile range on a single 15-minute charge.

    And it’ll cost half of what current batteries do – lowering EV prices to $10,000 less than the average gas-powered car.

    It’s smaller, lighter and safer … and almost guarantees mass adoption.

    And this breakthrough tech could be worth life-changing profits.

    • Beryl of Oyl October 10, 2023 at 10:19 am #

      Forever as it goes longer without charging, or forever as you can keep on charging it and it never wears out?

    • GreenAlba October 10, 2023 at 10:19 am #

      “But soon, every other house could have one in its driveway.”

      Unfortunately, Agenda 2030 does not even allow for you to have a driveway, let alone an electric vehicle to charge on it.

      • OG October 10, 2023 at 11:26 am #

        Unfortunate for us proles. Party members will be lovin’ it.

        (Or so they think.)

    • stelmosfire October 10, 2023 at 10:31 am #

      “is it too good to be true?”

      In a word, yes. The Tesla S ( one of the top range Ev’s) has a 400 mile range. That’s light on the go juice, downhill, with a tailwind, and no AC. All this with a 100 Kwh battery. To double the range (800 miles) would take a 200Kwh battery. To charge that fictional battery in 15 minutes would take an incredible amount of current. My figurin'( probably wrong) is north of 6500 amps at standard USA household 120V. My house only has a 200 amp service. That’s one big ass charging cord.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 10:57 am #

        I like big asses.

      • OG October 10, 2023 at 11:21 am #

        EVs sure are not a thing in Saskatchewan. There are millions of us in Minnesota, the Dakotas, Montana, Sask. & Alberta that face temps that drop down to where Fahrenheit meets Celsius: -40 degrees!

        Minus freaking forty! I can’t imagine a fully charged (in a heated garage) EV lasting much more than a trip to the mall and a second stop and then home again.

        Those are the arctic blasts. Much of winter is more like -20 or even -10. Saskatoon is 263 km (158 miles) from Regina. I haven’t heard of EVs here on the prairies much at all.

        ***
        Back in the day, Chevrolet was the best in -40. Hands down.

        • Beryl of Oyl October 10, 2023 at 11:29 am #

          In olden times, it seemed as if the heat in the cars never came on until you got where you were going.

          • OG October 10, 2023 at 11:50 am #

            Remote start is a very popular feature on the prairies today for that very reason. “Let ‘er run for 5.”

            And a block heater is a must at about -25 and lower.

          • JohnAZ October 10, 2023 at 12:05 pm #

            Volkswagens were famous for this as they had no fans.

          • DaveO907 October 10, 2023 at 3:28 pm #

            In Fairbanks we used electrical battery wrap blankets, block heaters (circulating water;) oil pan heaters (glued to the bottom of the pan;)—the option was a heat lamp in a coffee can;—5W oil in the power steering-power brake assists;) gasoline powered heaters mounted behind the seats—esp imperative for the air-cooled VW engines; window inserts that wouldn’t frost over.
            Unless you had a heated garage or jacked your rig up every night, you just had to put up with the lumpy starting rolls every morning until your tires got fully round again.

          • DaveO907 October 10, 2023 at 3:32 pm #

            Oh yeah—one had to cover the radiator with cardboard to stop sucking in more cold air or the engine would never get close to operating temps. Might as well piss up a rope. Of course that’s the only time pissing up a rope would make any sense at all for tangible results.
            -75 F was my all-time still-air record to have lived through on the Yukon River in January of ’75.

          • Ron Anselmo October 12, 2023 at 12:49 am #

            Damn Dave – I’ll say this about you – it’s a phrase a buddy of mine lovingly uses about his 800Hp, fully blown, nitrous-injected, ’70 396 Chevelle SS – you are “Nothing but B.A.D., bad”.

        • JohnAZ October 10, 2023 at 12:12 pm #

          I have a plug in hybrid. Reality is that extremes of temperature, hot and cold reduce the charging capacity of the battery by 10 to 20 percent.

          The RAV has a computer that forecasts the charge content in miles. During the 110 degree summer, charge was 48 miles. Yesterday, 54 miles. Last winter 49 miles.

          Bottom line to the discussion, for most of America, the Deep State assumption that EVs are the solution to climate change are insane.

        • BackRowHeckler October 10, 2023 at 12:54 pm #

          Imagine being 60 miles out of Saskatchewan, ambient temp. -45°F, & the EV sh#tbox you just paid $87,000 for runs out of juice You’re trapped on the bleak prarie, the wind is howling, snow is swirling… & you haven’t seen another car for 6 hours. You’re f#kkd, but at least you’ve reduced your ‘Carbon Footprint’.

          Like a scene out of ‘Fargo’.

          • malthuss October 10, 2023 at 1:00 pm #

            what of the refugee who walked in during sub zero winter there [to get into Canada] and lost a limb or 2?

          • benr October 10, 2023 at 1:39 pm #

            Serves them right for being stupid.

          • Islander October 10, 2023 at 6:27 pm #

            I think I mentioned a few weeks back that a friend of mine had bought an EV-SUV and was going to be traveling cross-country in it.

            I said I’d let you iknow how the trip went.

            So last night I called her up to discuss the Gaza situ and also asked her how the trip went.

            She said that they had had to make a repair on the EV and it was taking too long and they couldn’t put off the trip. So they flew out to the Coast.

            So now they have to make another trip to the West Coast (family affairs) and will go in the EV-SUV . . .

            Stay tuned . . .

      • BackRowHeckler October 10, 2023 at 12:59 pm #

        Yeah, & wouldn’t a quick charge tend to heat things up to the extent that the while thing — car, charger, garage, & house, burst into flames. I notice the EV buses around here tend to ignite while being charged, not when being driven.

    • elysianfield October 10, 2023 at 11:52 am #

      Q,
      Yeah, I heard about that. I would invest heavily…even sell one of Peter’s kidneys to get up enough scratch. Sell the house, the car, cash in your 401k…lets do this!

    • Night Owl October 10, 2023 at 12:07 pm #

      “The forever battery”

      Gee, I dunno. Does that sound too good to be true?

      Think hard now.

      • JohnAZ October 10, 2023 at 12:21 pm #

        Remember during the gas years all the gadgets that were put forward that were going to double and triple gas mileage and never happened. I remember one was the atomization of water into droplets that would Adsorb gas on the surface increasing the burn rate for the gas.

        This point is where common sense should dictate whether the ultimate solution is a pile of crap.

        If you read my post on the wind farm near England, it points out that renewables will never r[lace Fossil fuels, common sense would dictate. The inclusion of EVs at a large scale will just make the goal more impossible.

        The entire electrification remedy is so ridiculous that all it deserves is spots on late night monologues.

        • OG October 10, 2023 at 12:39 pm #

          Unless the move to electric is performed in conjunction with a 90-95% reduction in human population, JAZ. Once one accepts that, this electric idea will be just perfect in, say, Lahaina post 8/8.

        • Night Owl October 10, 2023 at 1:35 pm #

          Of course electrification is ridiculous, because it is not a solution to the problem we are discussing, but rather a solution to the problem the so-called elites have, which is an erosion of power as normal people become wealthier, have children, and claim their stake in this world.

        • stelmosfire October 10, 2023 at 1:47 pm #

          Actually water injection is old tech and improves engine power and fuel economy. It was common on WWII on aircraft engines. It was never widely adopted for the public because people were to lazy to fill up the water tank along with the gas tank. I’m curious about the RAV hybrid John. Is the cabin heat/defrost available as soon as you get in the car? I know with the straight EV’s it is. Which is a nice touch in cold climates.

          From wiki. “Bosch, which co-developed the technology with BMW, offers a water injection system named WaterBoost for other manufacturers. The company claims up to 5% increase in engine performance, up to 4% decrease in CO2 emissions and up to 13% improvement in fuel economy

      • Night Bro' October 10, 2023 at 1:00 pm #

        Even our sun is going to burn out one day.

      • BackRowHeckler October 10, 2023 at 2:37 pm #

        On different news feeds — Samsung, Yahoo, Google, a new & astonishing “Battery Break thru” is announced every week or so, one that will change everything. Then you hear nothing more about it. No worries tho, there will be another Battery break thru tomorrow.

    • DaveO907 October 10, 2023 at 3:15 pm #

      Don’t blink—you might miss it.

      Toyota CEO: “Our Ammonia Engine Is The End Of EV’s”

      httpx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pcm4fCDQ4dY

      Adequate containing of ammonia is a potential deal-breaker. At strength, it will kill you as quickly as anything out there. My brother (an alt-power nut,) has been sending me stuff on this tech for years now.
      It should also be mentioned that Toyota is poised to have a breakout in battery tech using silver as the electrolytical exchange medium, something that so far indicates the most rapid recharging times available yet.
      (Buy Toyota!—You already have an Ag stack, amirite…?)

      Just kidding on the immediate above. If you are gullible enough to take financial advice from me, then allow me to unload my dusty boxes of “How to Be Successful in Love and Make $ Millions Too!”

  92. mitchellc October 10, 2023 at 11:50 am #

    It’s hard to keep up with who are currently the colonizers and the colonized.

    Heritage whites (Xian, Jew, other) obviously were the colonizers in both N America and the ME, but now the American branch is becoming the colonized. Turnabout is fair play?

    Does that now make us the Palestinians? It also works on a state level, as normal citizens are oppressed by entrenched govt powers via deprivation of rights and continued encroachment in both private & public spheres.

    Here’s what I don’t get: how do people complaining against covid policies, Woke social movements and other intentionally destructive acts then turn around and embrace tyranny aka “might makes right”? I mean, at least Avatar is consistent; some others, not so much.

    As is always the case, one must reduce the problem to one of competition over scarce resources. What we are seeing is only the beginning; labels such as victim and oppressor are entirely fluid and will be utilized and leveraged to gain emotional advantages.

    Hybrid war is right – the West believes the global battle can be fought and won via media. We shall see if this theory holds up against traditional iron and blood.

    • JohnAZ October 10, 2023 at 12:22 pm #

      Ha, the West thinks that wars can be fought nicely.

      This fiasco in Gaza may change that.

    • SoftStarLight October 10, 2023 at 12:43 pm #

      I sorta am starting to wonder if this whole war thing is a vast patriarchal conspiracy

      • cowbell81 October 10, 2023 at 12:46 pm #

        Why not a matriarchal conspiracy?

        • SoftStarLight October 10, 2023 at 12:50 pm #

          Allow one of Mr. K’s wonderful lines to inform you lol 🙂

          “So, it came as a big surprise when southern Israel was overrun by Hamas dudes in tricked-out pickup trucks and para-gliders on Saturday, who carried home hundreds of nubile young women to have sport with, after slaughtering hundreds more people of all ages, like rampaging bronze age Philistines.”

          • cowbell81 October 10, 2023 at 12:53 pm #

            Okay, I see what you mean now….ugh, bunch of animals. These people are sub-human.

          • DaveO907 October 10, 2023 at 3:55 pm #

            As if this is not what happens in EVERY goddamned war since time immemorial?

            This is supposed to be shocking? War is many things, but primarily the “boots on the ground” means women young and old ‘on the ground.”
            The suited and catered-to scribes who write wars’ history after the fact have little to nothing to do with what goes on as primal, amygdala-driven ‘Little Billy’ becomes a monster because that’s what he was trained to turn into in order to potentially survive combat while killing / wounding as many of the enemy as possible. It’s the polar opposite of civilized. Duh!

            “Geneva Conventions” or any other so-called conventions hypocritically always overlook this. The fact the public remains such rubes about it is thanks to “heroes” like John McCain and Lindsey Graham and those who elevate such twisted human beings as being that to which we should aspire.

            Right: we all got to fight at some point. Or submit. But let’s not harbor any illusions about what human warfare actually entails. It’s big lies like ‘civilized warfare’ that continue to ensure we will always resort to it.

          • SoftStarLight October 10, 2023 at 4:10 pm #

            I was just making a little zany comment that’s all. I don’t know about all of the other stuff.

          • DaveO907 October 10, 2023 at 4:57 pm #

            My ire was not directed at you SSL.

            Aimed squarely at anyone who pretends to be shocked at what war actually does to those perpetrating it and their victims, but then immediately condones it and wants more of it from the other side of their brain.

        • Islander October 10, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

          “Okay, I see what you mean now….ugh, bunch of animals. These people are sub-human.”

          So, Mr. K, do you see what you have done? .

          • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 2:08 pm #

            Islam allows war booty, especially the taking of women.

            Get of your high horse and study Islam as it is, not as they present it to Leftist fools.

            Islam is right about women. The Chinese are right about Islam. We’re right about the Chinese. And both of them are right about us.

      • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 2:10 pm #

        Are you going to join Kesa’s gang? You could have great talks about how bad men are!

        • cowbell81 October 10, 2023 at 2:42 pm #

          No, I still think men are superior in all ways and that society was better when they made the rules. As a matter of fact, due to my recent dating history with two separate women, I will never trust a female ever again to even try working on a relationship. Women are evil, manipulative, and can mind their own damn business. I just want to get on with living my own life now.

          • Q. Shtik October 10, 2023 at 3:02 pm #

            my recent dating history with two separate women, – cow

            ============

            Did you date them serially or simultaneously?

          • cowbell81 October 10, 2023 at 3:17 pm #

            They were dated serially, after one jilted me I thought I’d try my luck with the other. No dice, they were both terrible and after a short stint didn’t give a lick about me, only cared about themselves and their own interests, I had no place in their little world.

            They both looked good on paper and for the first few months, after that I could tell they were not what they were cracked up to be. Both impressed upon me how they were just really looking for a decent guy to date. (“Hello, here I am!”) Not to put too fine a point on it but I kind of think I am a catch. I don’t take my partner for granted, I have a good head on my shoulders, I dress decent compared to others in our sloven society, I have a good education and family upbringing, I have a steady job with regular income, have never been married before and don’t have any kids, own my own house, no debt, etc.).

            Ah well, best to just wash my hands of it and move on. I gave it a try, wasted a lot of time and money, now I just lost a lot of trust in trying to build a relationship so will probably never try again, or at least no time soon.

          • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 3:23 pm #

            I was asking SSL. But thank you for revealing that you are a Brother of High Degree!

            I think I was invited to a threesome the other day by a swinger, framed as a joke. I just smiled and said, Uh oh.

            I don’t get people like that at all. Utterly alien.

            We are genetically slightly more akin to the Bonbos and we have unleashed the long suppressed Bonobo nature in women. Unfortunately for them, they cannot compete against the war like Chimps. Only the deep and wide Congo river protects the Bonobos from being invaded by Muslim like Chimps, and having their females taken. Actually, the women often go of their own accord, at least in our species and with the Chimps.

            A new Patriarchy will arise and take control of women again. Civilization depends on it, as Freud said.

          • cowbell81 October 10, 2023 at 3:39 pm #

            Indeed, Brother from a different Mother.

            I find it funny how in my high school/early college days, I felt like I had the world at my fingertips, greatness within grasp. If I worked hard and played my cards right anything could be mine, anything was possible. Then, as time progressed, and society regressed, it seemed like my options were becoming more and more limited, I was being hindered at every opportunity. I chalk this up to being a straight white male in an increasingly screwed up society with mixed priorities. I am an old soul in a younger body, my worldview does not mesh with the NWO. I am lucky just to have the little comfortable niche that I have.

        • SoftStarLight October 10, 2023 at 4:09 pm #

          Lol oh I was just making a comment. It was an observation. But i see it was a reverse triggering event too which I didn’t think about when I mentioned it.

          • cowbell81 October 10, 2023 at 4:33 pm #

            Don’t worry, I’m not triggered, just vexed by everything that has happened in my personal life. It is all just so confounding and makes absolutely no sense. Generally, I am a very logical person. I just look back on things and wonder how did I get here, what is going on, and how did things seem to go so bizarrely wrong?

    • King of Comedy October 10, 2023 at 1:20 pm #

      I don’t know if anyone is “embracing” might-makes-right so much as pointing out that it is the fundamental law of human interaction on this planet and has been as far back as one can look. From 1945 on, there has been a somewhat anomalous period, where this fundamental recognition was downplayed and discredited but entropy has an undefeated record and all systems reset themselves eventually based on the most stable set of parameters.

      When I saw the Russia-Ukraine war kick off, it was obvious to me that the ridiculous we-are-the-world philosophy and period was over and that large entities were on borrowed time. In 1875, to a homesteader on the American plains, the United States didn’t mean dick, an abstract notion at best. If that homesteader’s “might” could not hold off the Indian raiders, the bandits, and the other thousand dangers, that homesteader’s shelf-life was very short and a betting man would say that is what the future will look like both domestically and internationally. International law won’t be worth the paper it’s printed on and the only thing left of the United States will be the “States” part.

      In Gaza, maybe we’re seeing coming attractions or the main feature- it’s hard to tell- but to my eyes, Israel sure looks like that homesteader and we are not too far behind…

    • Islander October 10, 2023 at 1:39 pm #

      “Here’s what I don’t get: how do people complaining against covid policies, Woke social movements and other intentionally destructive acts then turn around and embrace tyranny aka “might makes right”? I mean, at least Avatar is consistent; some others, not so much.”

      It seems obvious to me that the migrant situ in the USA has brutalized the minds of a lot of CFN commenters.

      For some weird reason they are conflating illegal migrants with Palestinians and then running this through the Israeli-Zio-owned MSM propaganda grist mill.

      They get “proxy war in Ukraine,” but the switch goes to “off” regarding the ongoing proxy war in the ME. In n2013 it took awhile to connect the dots between Syria and the Ukraine. Similarly now the Ukraine and Zion are siloed.

      The ignorance-hatred bagel sandwich now being vomited up here is . . . enlightening.

      • Anthea October 11, 2023 at 8:00 pm #

        @ Islander:

        It isn’t so much that I or some others here believe that “might makes right,” so much as that we acknowledge the near-inevitability that might will prevail–in war. Thus, whether or not it is true that “might makes right” is a moot question. Right and wrong simply do not enter into the equation.

        I did argue WAY upthread that there is a level at which “right makes might”: A cohesive people with a strong moral and ethical culture are much more likely to possess might.

    • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 2:06 pm #

      Xian? This is hate speech. Christians are other worldly. Mitch hates that.

    • Paula D October 11, 2023 at 1:51 pm #

      Agree, Mitchc, all the macho talk about rape and pillage being part of war completely ignores the Russian SMO, which is recent and ongoing evidence that it doesn’t have to be that way.

      The Russians have managed to destroy 3 NATO armies with very few civilian causalities. And except for that one claim of mass rape, at the beginning, (which was so outrageous that even the Ukie parliament questioned it, and the women propagandist making the claim was fired), I haven’t heard of Russians raping women. I did see raped and murdered women in Kharkov AFTER the Russians left and the Ukies moved in. I am not as sanguine about that as many men on here seem to be.

      The other civilian casualties have mostly been the Ukies shelling ethnic Russian civilians in Donbass, not the Russians.

      And now the Russians are finally about to take Adeevka and put a stop to that terrorism.

      It is weird that people who complain so bitterly about ruling class mandates and restrictions so happily embrace “Might makes right”, when it comes to land theft and genocide. You would think that they would just accept the mandates as another example of Might makes right.

      It’s almost as if they are internalizing your “Why don’t you give them some admiration” narrative, but for invasion, murder, rape and theft, instead of manipulation of emotions in the population in order to gain more wealth and power.

      They’re making you look almost benevolent in contrast.

      Odd, that.

      • Paula D October 11, 2023 at 1:54 pm #

        Compare the Russians to Hamas.

        Now try to tell me that they are the same.

        SMDH over here.

  93. JohnAZ October 10, 2023 at 12:34 pm #

    IMHO, the only way to preserve even close to our standard of living is to get more man usage out of our remaining fossil funerals.

    Example would be the vast expansion of local and regional railroads. The monopoly the airlines hold on long distance travel should be challenged by high speed rail.

    • SoftStarLight October 10, 2023 at 12:48 pm #

      Did you mean fossil fuels? I don’t necessarily mind walking or riding a bike. But if you want to really go somewhere around here you do need a car. Or a car date lol.

      • Islander October 10, 2023 at 1:29 pm #

        Trains can run on coal . . .

        Or on electricity generated by coal.

        • SoftStarLight October 10, 2023 at 1:44 pm #

          But coal is super dirty though

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 2:33 pm #

            They may be able to put a covid mask over the coal-fired exhaust pipes.

          • SoftStarLight October 10, 2023 at 4:11 pm #

            Lol wow those would be some nasty covid masks now wouldn’t they!!

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 6:19 pm #

            It would be mandatory and doubled up for added protection.

          • Ron Anselmo October 10, 2023 at 11:30 pm #

            Zazzy – surely there are studies showing that masks would be effective?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 11:51 pm #

            The studies would be ‘purchased’.

  94. cowbell81 October 10, 2023 at 12:50 pm #

    Don’t worry folks, all of the Hamas fighters will come over to the US, streaming in through our vast open southern border in order to save their lives as “refugees”. Then the real fun will start on our own turf. Watch for many of the big politically blue cities to fall to minor (and some massive) terrorist attacks. C’est la vie. You reap what you sow.

    • SoftStarLight October 10, 2023 at 12:53 pm #

      Well let it be known for the record that I have always lobbied for a sealed border and actually I wanted an immigration moratorium to save the environment but i’ve always been outnumbered and outgunned.

      • cowbell81 October 10, 2023 at 12:56 pm #

        Did you when in school have fundraisers to “Save the Amazon”? Money would be raised and collected, sent to somewhere for purchase of virgin Amazon rainforest to keep it from being developed. This was in my grade school years. Now I wonder: what ever happened to that money, and is that Amazon rainforest we bought still being preserved and cared for? Who owns this land? It is property in common?

        • SoftStarLight October 10, 2023 at 1:02 pm #

          Oh wow yeah lol that is so funny you did too!! The only difference though when we did the bake sales it was always to “Save the Rainforest”, so less specific actually maybe? Also, Amnesty International had us write lots of letters to different world leaders to free political prisoners. And remember “Don’t throw it away, save it for another day!”

        • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 2:12 pm #

          Our money comes back to us as Amazon breakfast cereals.

    • Islander October 10, 2023 at 1:28 pm #

      Cowbell:
      Hmm.
      If that occurs, I think it would be “Jews, watch out!”

      But the Palestinians are wedded to their land, just like any normal person. I doubt the Hamas fighters will show up. Maybe regular Pal civilians. Although they would be even more assaulted and ffended by the unremitting Zionist-friendly “antisemitism” propaganda here than they are at home.

      I suspect they will prefer to die on their own land.

  95. The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 1:08 pm #

    Chris Hedges: Palestinians Speak Israel’s Language

    “The current government of Israel is populated by Jewish extremists, fanatic Zionists and religious bigots who are dismantling Israeli democracy and calling for the wholesale expulsion or murder of Palestinians, including those who live inside Israel.”

    consortiumnews.com/2023/10/09/chris-hedges-palestinians-speak-israels-language/

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  96. The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 1:11 pm #

    “The ‘United Nations’ today is neither united nor represents nations… Many true nations, such as the Iroquois confederation or any tribal alliance with a common ethic, are not represented by such a body, nor are whole nations such as the Basques, Tartars, Kurds, Palestinians, Hawaiians, Hopi, Tibetans, Pitjatjantjara, Misquito, Aranda, Basarwa, Herrero etc….

    Most nations in the United Nations repress a majority of peoples on earth. Talking with Thomas Banyaca, a Hopi messenger of his people, it became clear to me that we need a new concept of ‘nation’… We start by defining a nation as a people subscribing to a common ethic, and aspiring to a similar culture. Such nations may not have a common land base, or language, but do have a common ethic…

    At present, many thousands of organisations, affinities, tribes, bioregions, and spiritual and non-government organisations aspire to such beneficial ends; in every continent, a majority of people– the ethical majority– want peace; a clean and forested earth; a cessation to torture, malnutrition, and oppression; and a right to work towards these ends. It would take very little additional organisation for these groups to meet together, count their numbers, and recognise each other’s rights. There are, for instance, far less paid-up or active members of political parties or oppressive societies now than there are organic gardeners whose life works seek peace and plenty. As groups discuss, and accept, the minimal ethic… they can quickly proceed to recognize each other…” ~ Bill Mollison (permaculture)

    • SoftStarLight October 10, 2023 at 1:47 pm #

      This does sound like a better solution. The UN as currently comprised serves corporate and international banking interests. Not so much people or nations to begin with.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 2:38 pm #

        Sure looks that way.

      • DaveO907 October 10, 2023 at 4:29 pm #

        It’s [the UN] been a tool of the Rockefellers ever since they “donated” the land on which it stands.
        Their pacts are with their fellow corporatists worldwide, no matter which flag of convenience or socio-political ideology they might be sailing under.
        A doctrine established and long-practiced going back to the 1917 Revolution and/or their longtime lawyer [for Sullivan and Cromwell] Allen Dulles consorting with the likes of Hjalmar Schact, high level German military [still clients] and the Bank of International Settlements (they all have diplomatic immunity) throughout WW II. This was mostly in Zurich where Dulles kept his civilian work going with his OSS work.
        A known rogue agent.

        It turns out Israel likely would have failed as a UN-endorsed new nation had the Haganah not had an already extensive spy network. They got documents on Nelson Rockefeller showing his deep ongoing business involvement with the Third Reich throughout the war which they threatened to expose if “Rocky” did not deliver the ‘yea’ votes from 15 Latin American countries.

        So the ‘Rock’ delivered. But with the caveat that no bankers (not one) would be prosecuted or tried for association with Germany during WW II. Nelson reportedly said—“You can have your vengeance or you can have your country. Not both.”
        At the other end of the telephone, David Ben Gurion assented.

  97. BULLITT October 10, 2023 at 1:18 pm #

    Everyone in this game has their hands in your pocket. It’s all a big game so that someone makes a profit to include the folks in Israel. There’s a motive behind all of this and that’s to fleece the U.S. taxpayer via war, property, and resources.
    The scum we have running this Government are not your friends! Do you really think they are worried about your security, dream on my friend. We have between 10 and 20 million illegals running our streets on the taxpayer’s dollar. It doesn’t take Einstein to figure out that many of these poor refugees are here to slit your throats!
    Imagine all these Chinese, Russian, Middle Eastern people with Government supplied guns.
    It will be a blood bath and the fools in this Country continue to support those who do nothing to protect us.
    We will soon see a false flag that will be the go-ahead for all hell to break lose.
    And last, Israel doesn’t have a 2nd Amendment. Today they are buying 10,000 weapons to give to local militias to protect the Country.
    We better get our priorities right!
    Kill them before they get you.
    Have a great day!

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 1:51 pm #

      “The most absurd apology for authority and law is that they serve to diminish crime. Aside from the fact that the State is itself the greatest criminal, breaking every written and natural law, stealing in the form of taxes, killing in the form of war and capital punishment, it has come to an absolute standstill in coping with crime. It has failed utterly to destroy or even minimize the horrible scourge of its own creation.” ~ Emma Goldman

      —-

      Emma Goldman (June 27, 1869 – May 14, 1940) was a Russian-born anarchist, political activist, and writer. She played a pivotal role in the development of anarchist political philosophy in North America and Europe in the first half of the 20th century.

      Born in Kaunas, Lithuania (then within the Russian Empire), to an Orthodox Lithuanian Jewish family, Goldman emigrated to the United States in 1885. Attracted to anarchism after the Chicago Haymarket affair, Goldman became a writer and a renowned lecturer on anarchist philosophy, women’s rights, and social issues, attracting crowds of thousands. She and anarchist writer Alexander Berkman, her lover and lifelong friend, planned to assassinate industrialist and financier Henry Clay Frick as an act of propaganda of the deed. Frick survived the attempt on his life in 1892, and Berkman was sentenced to 22 years in prison. Goldman was imprisoned several times in the years that followed, for ‘inciting to riot’ and illegally distributing information about birth control. In 1906, Goldman founded the anarchist journal Mother Earth.” ~ Wikipedia

      • BackRowHeckler October 10, 2023 at 2:21 pm #

        Did Goldman give Czolgoz the gun to assassinate President McKinley?

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 2:26 pm #

          You have the world’s largest library at your command. Get to it for both of us, unless that was rhetorical.

      • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 2:23 pm #

        I thought you said they were peaceful?

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 2:26 pm #

          Self defense? Peacefulness seems relative.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 2:28 pm #

          Approach me with a gun and demand that I give you my taxes and see how far my peacefulness lasts. Karma? Maybe.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 2:29 pm #

          How long do you think the State will last?

        • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 3:12 pm #

          The movie Reds shows Emma talking with a comrade, telling him that she’s leaving the Communist struggle because Communist Russia was a place of horror.

          So apparently Anarchists do march with Communists. Or was this before she became an Anarchist? Or is the movie just wrong and it never happened?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 6:30 pm #

            Assuming the film is accurate, perhaps that was around about when she came to her senses and became a true anarchist.

            For others, maybe like JRK Jr., or even you, it never happens.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 6:31 pm #

            So again, how long do you think the State will last?

          • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 10:24 pm #

            The State is Eternal as Hegel said. It is already Existing, just waiting for us to invite it down into our physical, temporal and social reality.

            The Eternal Order. The City of Peace. Raj Ram. The Mandate of Heaven.

      • DaveO907 October 10, 2023 at 4:33 pm #

        Her time in Toronto was also politically orientated. The heat was on south of the border.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 6:32 pm #

          Looks like she got around.

  98. Islander October 10, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

    Well, I guess I will not be voting for RFK Jr. . . .

    “Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on X (Twitter), October 7:

    “This ignominious, unprovoked, and barbaric attack on Israel must be met with world condemnation and unequivocal support for the Jewish state’s right to self-defense. We must provide Israel with whatever it needs to defend itself — now. As President, I’ll make sure that our policy is unambiguous so that the enemies of Israel will think long and hard before attempting aggression of any kind.

    “I applaud the strong statements of support from the Biden White House for Israel in her hour of need. However, the scale of these attacks means it is likely that Israel will need to wage a sustained military campaign to protect its citizens. Statements of support are fine, but we must follow through with unwavering, resolute, and practical action. America must stand by our ally throughout this operation and beyond as it exercises its sovereign right to self-defense.” (Emphasis added).”

    I think he has stepped in a big turd here.

    Parroting the Biden administration.

    He could learn from Putin:
    Hold your tongue and observe.

    Time will tell.

  99. beantownbill. October 10, 2023 at 1:44 pm #

    The CFN commentariat here has deteriorated muchly.

    First, kudos to Marlin and JohnAZ. You know and understand reality.

    Second, fuck you Kesa Anna, fuck you Islander.

    Kesa – you admitted to hating the IDF and hating the US, among many other things. You seem happy enough, though. Good for you that your numerous hatreds aren’t eating you up inside. What I don’t fully understand is why you’re still living here among those you hate. The world is big enough so there must be some places you can live where you don’t hate the citizens.

    Islander, I’ve overlooked your prejudice against Israel and I think Jews, but you’ve had good comments, so although I’m pissed, I will continue to follow you and comment to you.

    My side is for Israelis as they are my people. Going to war against Israel is understandable, but not the barbarity. To anyone who doesn’t mind that, fuck you, too. If it bothers you, state it in strong terms.

    Ya think I might be generally pissed off?

    Finally, hello OG, you are ok in my book.

    Murdering and decapitating babies is inhuman and unforgivable. Did that really happen? Until we hear otherwise, I’ll assume it did happen. Today, news is unreliable, so who really knows?

    • SoftStarLight October 10, 2023 at 1:49 pm #

      Wow you normally don’t speak like this Bill, you must be really angry. Where am I at in your book, Bill?

      • beantownbill. October 10, 2023 at 1:52 pm #

        You haven’t exactly been supportive, SSL, so I’m pissed at you, too. In my book, you are either naive or hateful. I believe it’s the former, because I like you.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 2:00 pm #

          I am hoping that the State of Israel doesn’t exacerbate the conditions for another holocaust.

          States, as most if not all are, have no business existing.

          • BackRowHeckler October 10, 2023 at 2:17 pm #

            Israel has an arsenal of nuclear weapons that says there will not be another Holocaust under any circumstances.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 2:22 pm #

            Fair enough, though nukes don’t seem to have helped Ukraine much.

      • Q. Shtik October 10, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

        Where am I at in your book, Bill? – SSL

        ==========

        Should be “Where am I in your book, Bill?”

        • SoftStarLight October 10, 2023 at 4:12 pm #

          I guess I was trying to emphasize location but tweak is ok by me 🙂

          • SoftStarLight October 10, 2023 at 4:13 pm #

            that tweak lol

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

      beantownbill, while I think I can understand where you’re coming from, you likely understand that there’s a big difference between a State and a people.

      Secondly, from what is understood, and to underscore the aforementioned, there are those who consider themselves Jewish who oppose the State of Israel for a number of reasons.

      Thirdly, there are many Jews around the world who are not Israeli.

      I would rather not feel like this sort of thing needs to be pointed out, but there we go.

      • beantownbill. October 10, 2023 at 2:51 pm #

        I’m talking about a people, but the conflict is manifested in Israel, a state hated by those who hate Jews.

        This entire conflict is historical. The Arabs (I’m not talking about Muslims because this story predated them) hate the Jews because way back, 4,000 years ago, Abraham slept with his maid (or whatever she was), and literally and figuratively screwed her. Her child as a result of the sex, was screwed out of recognition by Abraham a/o his wife. The son was thrust out of the family and he and his offspring became a 2nd class people.The Arabs never forgot this.

        So everything happening now is a result of a 4,000 year old event that isn’t the fault of anyone living now, sort of like Black people hating Whites, although no one currently existing had anything to do with their slavery.

        Just goes to show how flawed humans are despite their supposed intelligence and big brains.

        • 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 3:01 pm #

          Except these events are not real.

          And this is the crux of the problem

          Yet so germane.

          When other people’s fantasies collide with your reality.

          “Accept the fantasy bigot!”

          • beantownbill. October 10, 2023 at 3:40 pm #

            Fantasy can make reality manifest.

          • gustafson.robert.22 October 10, 2023 at 4:16 pm #

            My only real issue is US involvement and the siphoning of money. Let Israel do whatever they feel is in their best interest.

        • anmariwakaranai October 10, 2023 at 4:15 pm #

          When I was younger I read Ishmael’s blessing from God as,…
          ‘You shall be a great nation, and a wild ass of a man.’

          But now the translation seems to be,
          A great nation but your hand set against your brothers.

          “In Genesis 17:20-21, God tells Abraham that he will fulfill his covenant through his yet-to-be-born son Isaac, not Ishmael, whom Abraham had fathered through Hagar, his wife’s maidservant, in his desperate attempt to provide an heir to fulfill God’s covenants with him:

          As for Ishmael, I have heard you; behold, I will bless him and make him fruitful and multiply him exceedingly. . . . But I will establish my covenant with Isaac, whom Sarah shall bear to you at this season next year.

          God makes three covenants with Abram/Abraham regarding the latter’s descendants: 1) to make of them a great nation (Gen. 15), fulfilled in the founding of Israel by Moses (Ex. 24); 2) to make of them a great kingdom (Gen. 17), initially fulfilled in David and his royal descendants (1 Samuel 16ff.); and 3) to make of them a “catholic” or universal blessing (Gen. 22), i.e., one meant to impact all nations, and ultimately fulfilled in Jesus Christ, the King of kings, who restored and fulfilled the kingdom of Israel in founding the Catholic Church (Luke 1:26-33; Matt. 28:18-20).

          God reaffirms that his covenants will be fulfilled through Isaac and his descendants (Gen. 21:12, 22:2, 14-18). God also makes clear that Hagar and Ishmael will be provided for otherwise (Gen. 21:13, 15-21).” CATHOLIC.COM

          This whole thing is worth a read. And the wild ass bit starts in genesis 16.

          I propose the whole thing can inform our precarious position, from the angels that blinded the men who would sodomize the in Sodom, ergo our protection in the shelters during the tribulation, to God’s blessing all nations through his Jewish son, Jesus Christ.

          • Jarek October 11, 2023 at 1:54 am #

            No wonder the Jews and Muslims consider us idolaters.

            As the Koran says, He is without consort or offspring. His son? Who is his consort? Zeus had Hera. Who does your Jehovah have?

        • Islander October 10, 2023 at 6:43 pm #

          BTB, You are really off the track, Bubele.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 9:55 pm #

            A nice bubble bath for Bubbale.

    • gustafson.robert.22 October 10, 2023 at 2:05 pm #

      If your choice is between Israel and USA, do you apply the same standard to yourself that you apply to Kesa? Do you choose the USA?

      If you say, “That will never be a real choice,” I’m not sure you’re even right currently.

      • beantownbill. October 10, 2023 at 2:56 pm #

        I’m a born and bred American citizen. While I have a great emotional attachment to Israel, America comes first.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 6:40 pm #

          That’s yet another fantasy or social engineering– a Statist one.

    • cowbell81 October 10, 2023 at 2:45 pm #

      Yeah, our society is royally fucked. There is no excuse for decapitating babies. Talk about war crimes. But then again, our society can sweep all the Chinese atrocities against the Uyghurs under the rug and everything is just fine. Society certainly has a way of overlooking things if it proves inconvenient.

      • beantownbill. October 10, 2023 at 2:59 pm #

        Yeah, I agree.

      • OG October 10, 2023 at 6:45 pm #

        e.g. Lahaina 8/8.

    • Islander October 10, 2023 at 6:41 pm #

      Beantownbill

      Well fuck you, too, and “your people.”

      You don’t of course know who “my people” might be.

      Mazel tov.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 10:02 pm #

        Potato latkes are quite nice dipped in tzatziki.

        • Anthea October 11, 2023 at 8:25 pm #

          Matzo ball soup is one of the best foods ever, but you have to make it from scratch. The “kits” are disgusting. Latkes are of course just potato pancakes.

  100. beantownbill. October 10, 2023 at 1:49 pm #

    Oh, I forgot to mention Cowbell. I believe you are correct in your attitude as to what’s happening. Sorry, I forgot to include you above.

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    • cowbell81 October 10, 2023 at 2:47 pm #

      Thanks for the shout-out BTB. We’ll see where this all goes in the coming days/weeks. Should be interessting for sure.

  101. 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 2:04 pm #

    How much hot water was Bibi in until a few days ago?

    Before you let emotions get triggered, you should think about the monsters in power on both sides who do not mind sacrificing their kind in some utilitarian wager.

    Bill, you should listen to this podcast. It’s 2 Jewish guys. They are able to keep it rational:

    gasdigitalnetwork.com/gdn-show-channels/part-of-the-problem/

    Episode: Israel at war

    • Disaffected October 10, 2023 at 8:09 pm #

      GREAT video! Thanks. Just sad that only two Jews could have this conversation, as two goys would be permanently canceled for doing so. Hell, they’ll probably cancel everyone who watches it.

      Young RFK just showed his true colors too. Just another cheap warhawk.

      This whole affair is illustrative as to how far down the shitter this country has gone and why “the holy vote,” even assuming it was ever legitimate, is a total a waste of time. Americans are just *too fucking stupid* to resist the same fucking bait every fucking time! The elites are right as rain on that count.

  102. Jarek October 10, 2023 at 2:29 pm #

    Poor Kennedy. First he loses his big media moment because of the War. Now he cucks and probably loses more than half his base.

    How can he be this stupid? Probably because he was never for real in the first place.

    Intermediate position: He has to play the Game to get in. Once in, he would try to reign in Big Pharma and perhaps the CIA. And try not to get himself taken out in the process.

    • 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 2:56 pm #

      He’s not far from Trump as far as the jingoism.
      Of course Trump put his fragile ego front and center: they’d never try this with me as president!

      Kennedy is just another disappointing politician. He’s just another victim of this orchestration.

      The war pigs must have callous from all the high fives.
      Brilliantly played.

      Supposed peace candidate just hung himself on the dais

  103. docmartin October 10, 2023 at 2:29 pm #

    Mr Kunstler: I do not understand why you let trolls piss on you and your people in the comment section. Just because you live in update New York and play the fiddle do you think that you are safe from a pogrom?

    • cowbell81 October 10, 2023 at 2:48 pm #

      Freedom of speech my friend, freedom of speech. This place is about the closest thing we have to a town square these days. Some people might have opposing/incorrect viewpoints, but that leads to further analysis and discussion, helping us all to parse out the truth (or at least get closer to it).

      • 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 2:50 pm #

        Or call names, which sometimes feels good.

        • OG October 10, 2023 at 6:41 pm #

          Yeah, ya dweeb.

    • Q. Shtik October 10, 2023 at 2:56 pm #

      update New York – doc

      ==========

      Ah hahaha

    • Disaffected October 10, 2023 at 8:11 pm #

      His people? I thought Jim was an American?

      Tell me, can you walk and chew gum at the same time, or do you need to sit down?

    • Paula D October 11, 2023 at 2:09 pm #

      Do you think that censorship can stop a pogrom?

  104. Jarek October 10, 2023 at 3:08 pm #

    Bill Bonner, Straight Line Logic

    When Europeans were just beginning to discover North America, an intrepid explorer spent time with the tribes along the Hudson Bay of Canada. He reported that one day, the young men of the tribe took their weapons and headed north. He thought they were on a hunting party. For weeks they continued…until the trees had disappeared …and it looked like desolate tundra. Finally, they found what they were looking for – an Eskimo village. The Eskimos were different people – different language, different culture… Wasting no time, the Indians attacked and slaughtered everyone in the village – men, women, children.

    They were on a crusade. And they targeted people they must have viewed as ‘bad.’ Were they bad because they worshiped other gods? Or because they worshiped no gods at all? Were they bad because they had bad breath…or because the Indians lived on a vast, mostly-empty continent and the Eskimos were the only plausible ‘enemy’ within range?

    An enemy doesn’t have to do anything. He only has to be something – a useful foe

    Report from Iron Mountain

    Jarek: How were the Eskies useful? Practice? A warrior must do warrior things to feel like a warrior. Maybe some of them fought back? They were far from pacifists themselves.

    Cats seldom eat the mice and birds they kill. They aren’t hungry – they enjoy the stalking and killing in of themselves. Is this not useful?

    Chuang Tzu speaks of “staw dogs” or targets for practice. And says that many people are just such straw dogs. He doesn’t say it’s good btw. He says try to avoid being a straw dog.

    Existentially? Do we not need others to feel like a group? And of course they have to be bad so that we can be good. And if they are a threat? Well that’s even better! Unless they really are and you lose. And very sad if you realize that your need made them into a threat and an enemy in the first place.

    • JohnAZ October 10, 2023 at 4:08 pm #

      Jarek

      I have wondered for a long time how the divisions in humanity occurred, how ethnic groups started, how languages formed and eventually how nations started.

      The only thing that makes sense to me is that it was the result of family formation and dispersion. Homo Sapiens developed alongside other human forms. It ended up being the winner, world wide, spreading out world wide over the millennia.

      Science recently, analyzing DNA data have discovered two interesting things. First, that many genes exist in today’s human genome that come from other human forms, especially Neanderthal. So it may be that Homo Sapiens just absorbed the other forms. This is interesting as the definition of species is the ability to breed only within itself. Obviously not only a requirement. My guess is that Homo Sapiens just finished off the remaining human forms with better technology, sorta like 2001. Second, at one time, humankind was down to less than 2000 individuals and was probably a fairly close unit in driving off extinction. It has not been determined what did this, but as many other mega fauna, especially in the USA area, went extinct in one fell swoop, it might have something to do with that catastrophe.

      Anyway, I think of what spread Homo Sapiens around the world. Ethnocentrism. The old “This town ain’t bid enough for the two of us” syndrome.

      So as people moved away from each other, probably in a familial way (remember relatives and fish-3 days) geopolitics, cave man style, created cores of peoples that could work with each other, learned to talk to each other with common language, created common cultures, and just got along. Thus, early segregation created Celts, Angle and Saxons, Gauls, Germanics, Chinese, Africans and on and on. Evolution of things like skin color in response to environmental factors widened the separation. As borders approached borders, war started to erupt on a regular basis in search of resources. Then empire building started with dominant cores of civilization developing higher technology, especially metals, and overcoming the other around them.

      We are still in the latter phase. Empires trying to make the world be like their cores. Greece, Babylon, Chaldeans, Assyrians, Persians, Romans, Anglo Saxons, Celts, Gauls(Normans), English, Americans, the parade continues.

      America is just the latest, but probably the first to do conquest with a piece of paper, the Constitution, rather than better weaponry. I know, not always, but most of the time. History is against us, as the reaction to immigration is starting to show. A new acronym, NIMBY is developing which is splitting the US apart as people move away from each other. It goes back to the Old West when folks moved when civilization caught up to them and they wanted no part of it.

      Ethnocentrism and the desire for power, the two most powerful formers of humanity.

      Israel, a union of many cultures, is just the latest dissolution site. Will the Torah be able to hold it together? Same question for the USA, will the Constitution be able to hold it together.

      • cowbell81 October 10, 2023 at 4:56 pm #

        There was a book someone was telling me about. Does anyone here know the title? I’d like to find it so I can guy and read.

        Premise was that White European colonizers were not wrong in exploring and seizing New World lands, they simply beat the Natives to the punch. The Natives could have turned the tables and become sea faring and invaded the European continent. They did not do this because of their lifestyle and worldviews.

        Anyone here know the book I am talking about?

        • JohnAZ October 10, 2023 at 6:43 pm #

          You have posted a small episode of the history I was expressing my opinion of.

          Europe was staggered by the Black Plague but was actually overpopulated at the time. It started growing again after the plague subsided. Overpopulated meaning too many people for the available resources produced by the economies at the time.

          In the 15th and 16th centuries, Europe exploded outward, having the technology to sail into the unknown and the desire to acquire more resources. Gold at first, but then natural resources replacing those that had been exhausted in Europe.

          In the meantime, the North American continent was inhabited sparsely by very low order technology folks. They hadn’t even invented the wheel or had horses.

          The result was inevitable as the Europeans just ran over everything.

          • Paula D October 11, 2023 at 2:58 pm #

            The Arabs and Chinese already had sailing ships, which they used for trade.

            What the Europeans invented was piracy, starting with the Portuguese, then the Spaniards and English.

      • cowbell81 October 10, 2023 at 4:58 pm #

        *buy and read….I want to find out the title of this book so I can buy it!

        • gustafson.robert.22 October 10, 2023 at 5:18 pm #

          Have you read “Guns, Germs and Steel”?

          • cowbell81 October 10, 2023 at 5:22 pm #

            Nope I haven’t but it looks like a good one. Just added it to my “want” list.

            Anything else guys?

          • malthuss October 11, 2023 at 4:05 pm #

            Yes, its hogwash. JD wrote it to try TO [not and, Q] refute race and IQ [Murrays book] and JD says Whites are dumber than the cannibals of Borneo, or something like that.

          • Anthea October 11, 2023 at 8:49 pm #

            I think that’s the book cowbell was asking about–though turning the tables on Europeans is not the thesis of the book. It’s mainly an attempt to explain why Europeans developed advanced technologies and most other areas of the world did not.

            One of the author’s theses is that most of the rest of the world was slow to develop large food surpluses, because most other places didn’t have vast areas of standing wheat, which was an easily developed food source, just by means of a little selective breeding. By contrast, Native Americans had only teosinte, the ancestor of our modern corn, to work with, and it took centuries of selective breeding to make it a worthwhile staple grain crop. One thing I will say for pre-Colubian Indians: Some of them were genius plant-breeders.

            Jared Diamond points to many other circumstanes that hindered the development of much of the rest of the world. What he’s really trying to do is to explain why the failure of a nation (or race, or ethnicity) to progress should not be considered proof of their inferiority. I think he makes some good points, but I’m not sure I buy his whole thesis.

        • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 10:30 pm #

          Some people think the Chinese reached North America, but only as a very occasional thing.

          If so, if the Ming Dynasty knew about the Americas, they could have taken this continent for their own and changed human history.

          • malthuss October 11, 2023 at 4:06 pm #

            what of the red haired chinese?

          • Jarek October 11, 2023 at 7:08 pm #

            Where are they? Now or long ago?

          • Anthea October 11, 2023 at 9:24 pm #

            There is a variety of corn, called Japanese Black Sticky Corn, that some people believe may have been first introduced into China in the early 1400s, at which time some researchers believe it was acquired by a Chinese trading expedition to Peru. It is said that ears of corn appear to be depicted on ancient temples in India.

            Anyway, Baker Creek sells Japanese Black Sticky Corn seeds, in cas you’re interested.

      • Jarek October 10, 2023 at 10:38 pm #

        The Chimps are Patriarchical. The Bonobos are vehemently Matriarchical. But all of the Primates (including Man) come from a common ancestor. Being close to the Chimps and Bonobos, we have both of these tendencies, with one active and one latent. Feminism is the activation of the Bonobo circuit – which is degeneration in terms of civilization.

        Once activated, such things are difficult or impossible to turn off. Thus the main thing is not allow the activation of it. Race, Culture, and Nation mean nothing to them. They are anti all of that.

        • malthuss October 11, 2023 at 4:06 pm #

          Me, Ive been watching lions kill lions on you tube..not very nice animals.

    • Billy Hill October 10, 2023 at 8:43 pm #

      Straw Dogs. Dustin Hoffman movie. 1971. Sam Peckinpah.

      It left a mark.

  105. Night Owl October 10, 2023 at 3:27 pm #

    New clip from Dennis Rancourt with Peter McCullough(via Mike Yeadon) on evidence that there was no virus whatsoever.

    https://t.me/DrMikeYeadon/1738

    Notice how quiet McCullough is.

    😀

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    • OG October 10, 2023 at 6:37 pm #

      What made me, my gf, Dave and millions of others ill, Mszn? Was it just psychosomatic? Or was it something?

      [Note: I have never been to the Congo (like that’s relevant).]

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 6:41 pm #

        Evil spirits.

      • Night Owl October 11, 2023 at 3:49 am #

        I don’t know, but I do know they faked stats, symptoms, etc., and they have never shown us an isolate.

        You break logic and believe it exists because you felt sick around that time.

        Faith is fine for some things, but I don’t employ it when dealing with known psychopaths.

    • Islander October 10, 2023 at 6:49 pm #

      I can’t open it.

  106. cowbell81 October 10, 2023 at 3:43 pm #

    Fourteen Americans have been killed in the fighting in Israel, President Joe Biden announced Tuesday, and he confirmed more are among those being held hostage by Hamas terrorists.

    “We now know that American citizens are among those being held by Hamas,” Biden said. “I’ve directed my team to share intelligence and deploy additional experts from across the United States government to consult with and advise Israeli counterparts on hostage recovery recovery efforts. Because as president, I have no higher priority than the safety of Americans being held hostage around the world.”

    Cowbell: Really Joey? You could have fooled me, I thought your highest priority was giving money to Zelensky and the Ukraine. I guess just fork over a couple more billion to a terrorist State for the release of hostages and everything should work out fine, right?

    • Islander October 10, 2023 at 6:48 pm #

      I think (read somewhere) that most of them are dual citizens.

      This is part of the problem with Israel.

  107. cowbell81 October 10, 2023 at 3:52 pm #

    Biden is blathering on and on about his visit to Israel 50 years ago as a young new Senator and his meeting with Golda Meir.

    Wow, everything has to be totally about you Old Joe, doesn’t it?

  108. cowbell81 October 10, 2023 at 3:59 pm #

    You know another thing we haven’t heard much more about lately? The crisis in Niger. There is just so much shit going down in this world, it makes you wonder if you have ADHD trying to keep up.

    • Soul Forensics October 10, 2023 at 4:07 pm #

      That’s the way they want it. Who even thinks about Lahaina today? The news cycle rarely even has next-day follow-ups any more.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 6:43 pm #

        Soul manhole

    • SoftStarLight October 10, 2023 at 4:21 pm #

      I know, I feel drowned by information so I’m sticking with routines and chores right now. Don’t let yourself get absorbed into the tornado of data. Think everything through. That phrase stop and think comes in to play hear. Sometimes when I drive I have to stop for a little while if I am trying to think deeply. Do you sometimes turn the music volume down to think?

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 6:44 pm #

        Just pretend you’re in a nice bubble bath of information, with candles here and there and a good book or some music.

  109. anmariwakaranai October 10, 2023 at 4:41 pm #

    And…. Syria bombs Golon Heights.

    • JohnAZ October 10, 2023 at 6:46 pm #

      Does anyone remember where Armageddon is?

      Hint: It is not in the US, Russia or China.

      • 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 6:58 pm #

        Yes, it’s located at track number 5 from Def Lepoard’s 1987 album, Hysteria.

      • Disaffected October 10, 2023 at 7:38 pm #

        Tel Megiddo.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Megiddo

        • Disaffected October 11, 2023 at 10:57 am #

          Funny anecdote: I still remember the Nazarene preacher at the church my grandma attended in tiny Palmer NE going into hysterics about Armageddon.

          “And on that day, that big ol’ mountain will cleave apart, and the forces of good and evil will meet on that great plain, flat as far as the eye can see in all directions, and the blood will flow as high as a horse’s head, yes it will, until Christ and his angels will come down from the heavens and once and for all vanquish the devil and his minions and throw them all in the lake of fire for a thousand years.”

          Don’t know how accurate old Goldie was on the theology, but she sure could turn a phrase once she got her groove on! And little 5 year old me sitting in the back thinking “I’m hungry as hell! Just wrap it the fuck up already and let’s go eat!”

  110. PeteAtomic October 10, 2023 at 5:29 pm #

    The trouble with Maui is that it wasn’t located in Ukraine, and the trouble with Ukraine is that it isn’t Israel.

    Kinda seeing how the “world priorities” according to the US Deep State/Control matrix ranks their shit.

    Pretty illuminating.

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  111. KesaAnna October 10, 2023 at 6:04 pm #

    ” Totenköpfe ”

    — Night Owl

    How do you put the little dots OVER a letter ?

    Is that easy to explain in print ?

    Another one of my minor hobbies is crafting fake advertisements .

    A frustrated commercial artist ??

    I prefer to do them in German thought.

    I always have to paint in the little dots.

    It comes up a lot.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 10, 2023 at 6:50 pm #

      German fake adverts and young-women dancing Korean music videos? One wonders about your portfolio.

    • Islander October 10, 2023 at 6:50 pm #

      I think he must have a German keyboard and maybe German email software?

      • GreenAlba October 10, 2023 at 7:32 pm #

        I can do it on my phone – you just hold the letter down for a second and it offers you the options. And I used to do it all the time on my PC, because the keyboard had a numeric keyboard beside the main one, which you need in order to do special symbols/characters using extended ASCII codes (Alt+ code number).

        But now I use a laptop, so it’s a pain as it doesn’t have a numeric keyboard. If I want to use accented letters (mostly for French) I have to look something up with the letter I want and copy-paste it, which is a pain in the neck. If there’s a way to do it on a laptop I’d love to know. You can do it in Word, of course, by using ‘Insert’, Symbol’.

        The quickest copy-paste technique I can think of would be to type out all the special letters/symbols you’re likely to want, in a Word document (using Insert, Symbol) and keep that open while you’re commenting, so you can just do a quick copy-paste when you need to. Not very hi-tech, but I can’t think of another way. I miss my Extended ASCII crib sheet from the old days!

        • GreenAlba October 10, 2023 at 7:36 pm #

          That was really for Kesa!

          • GreenAlba October 10, 2023 at 7:49 pm #

            If you don’t have Word, you could just type yourself an email with the letters you want, on your phone, and keep it on whatever device you’re using.

            Of course, you can buy a proper keyboard for a tenner and plug it into your laptop, then just type out the extended ASCII code you need or type out a crib sheet, using the numeric keyboard (with the NUM key switched on).

            Justs look up the extended ASCII code list on the interwebz and pick what you need.

            theasciicode.com.ar/

            ‘o’ with an umlaut would be Alt+153.

          • GreenAlba October 10, 2023 at 7:51 pm #

            ‘Num lock’ key, I think it’s called, on the numeric keyboard (it’s been years …)

        • Islander October 10, 2023 at 8:20 pm #

          Yes, I guess on can copy and paste symbols from Word into this blog (WordPress?).

          But it’s too much trouble for me.

          I just type [vowel]e instead of looking for umlauts.

          • Jarek October 11, 2023 at 1:58 am #

            Looking for Umlauts – what a great title for your memoir.

            Maybe you’ll find your people in the process….

          • Disaffected October 11, 2023 at 8:35 am #

            LOL! That was pretty good!

    • Night Owl October 11, 2023 at 3:47 am #

      You use either a QWERTZ keyboard or you open the keyboard viewer and you can change it to a different language.

      I have to switch back and forth for work all the time.

  112. 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 6:55 pm #

    In the Part of the Problem podcast, one of the hosts, Jewish, describes a conversation with a friend or family member in Israel:

    “Well, I had to cancel my taco party because of Hamas.”

    There is an enviable resiliency among the Israelis. Jarek mentioned the 4th turning theory and good times breeding soft people.

    I assume the Palestinians are the same.

    There is a toughness to many of them, at least the older generations I had met. Tempered with a bit of bon vivant, carpe diem, approach to life.

    We don’t know what is in store for us with the wide open borders, the tyrannical politicians, and the inevitable collapse of our society’s economy.

    I hope I can try to maintain a first world lifestyle with chaos outside the doorstep.

    “Sorry everybody, pizza night is on hold, it looks like the Sinaloa Cartel is doing home invasions in my subdivision this weekend. Does next week work provided we’re all still around?”

    • Soul Forensics October 11, 2023 at 1:27 am #

      “Nope, sorry, can’t make it next week at all. I have a meeting with the Rooftop Snipers Committee on Wednesday, then on Thursday Oscar’s coming over to help me set up the rocket launcher by my dormer-cum-turret, and on Friday I infiltrate the new iglesia down the block so I can place a time-delay bomba in the plate, covered by a servilleta that my wife’s currently making.

      Maybe the week after that, once the drone-photo blitzes are over?”

  113. elysianfield October 10, 2023 at 7:14 pm #

    The horror! The horror!

    https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/hamas-israel-babies/2023/10/10/id/1137785/

    Newsmax, a site you can trust, has just, breathlessly, reported news describing a baby massacre by Hamas. 40 babies dead! Many beheaded!! Some made into lampshades and soap…

    (oh wait, that was the last war…sorry.)

    To this inhuman atrocity I exclaim…”Maybe…who knows….”

    • Disaffected October 10, 2023 at 7:33 pm #

      So much hyperbole, so little time…

      • Disaffected October 10, 2023 at 7:35 pm #

        But while we’re at it, I heard they sucked the guts out of the little buggers waterbug-style after they beheaded ’em. Because, you know, they’re animals! Besides, baby guts are em, em good! Very tender!

        • Disaffected October 11, 2023 at 8:34 am #

          I hear the secret is that after you pop their little noggins off, you hold them upside down by the waist and then squeeze their tender little baby guts out their little neck holes. Very tasty! And of course you throw the noggins and all the rest in a pot and boil ’em up for stew later. Witches perfected all this culinary goodness way back in the day.

    • Disaffected October 10, 2023 at 7:41 pm #

      It’s just amazing that people fall for this kinda shit every time. Us vs Them all the way down the shitter…

  114. KesaAnna October 10, 2023 at 8:04 pm #

    ” Kesa – you admitted to hating the IDF and hating the US, among many other things. You seem happy enough, though. Good for you that your numerous hatreds aren’t eating you up inside. What I don’t fully understand is why you’re still living here among those you hate. The world is big enough so there must be some places you can live where you don’t hate the citizens. ”

    Answered several times .

    Not because I am so cool , but because it is so easy to shoot down.

    As I said ,

    The police will bust your ass for vagrancy , and your cellmates will be Hamas and Hezbollah.

    i.e.

    This is not America.

    ” Gunsmoke ” and ” The Walton’s ” was a long time ago.

    As for where I specifically live , it is Appalachia.

    The part of Appalachia typically on lists of places NOT to visit or move to .

    Amusing , at least to me.

    I can walk into my local bank and do my business , and do not need an ID.

    At least 60% of the population is poor — poor white people.

    It’s a theory , but I theorize the police don’t fuck over poor people here because they would be fucking over their own relatives.

    Being a real dick might make family reunions a bit awkward.

    The last shooting — that I know of — was four years ago.

    They caught the guy in five minutes.

    He was a druggie. The people in the place he shot up knew him , knew where he lived , knew his family and relatives.

    Alas , if past history is any clue , rich Yankees will move in because it is THEIR country , and make it into a Hell hole.

    Hopefully I will be dead by then.

    Call it making excuses , but I reckon I’m a bit old to be relocating to the Yukon or Vladivostok.

    Earlier ?

    Life must be lived forwards , but is comprehended backwards.

    If I knew at 18 what I know now , but I didn’t .

    I might , for example , have joined your army . Four years of mouthing your bullshit , so I can fuck you over ever after on your G I Bill dime.

    Don’t thank me ?

    Speaking of that ,

    as I understand it , you can pop a few puppies and get all sorts of goodies.

    But among other reasons , I thought raising kids on Food Stamps would be a disservice to my neighbors , it isn’t my money , and shit like that.

    Stupid me.

    Near as I can tell , 99.99999 % of the time that thought never even crosses my neighbors minds.

    They LOOK UP TO people who exploit them 500 ways to Sunday.

    I AM well aware that Hamas , Hezbollah , Gang Bangers , Russians , heck , even Catholics , are not my friends.

    But neither are rich Yankees in McMansions.

    Talking a good game is all the fuck they are good for.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 12:57 am #

      I haven’t seen all of these examples, but if you remove the economic decline and associated social problems, Appalachia’s lovely, even gorgeous in some areas. Aside from the apparent drugs, the people seem fine, down to earth.

      youtu.be/h9lSZlDJAC0?si=X_dSoeJ5Rn2v_D_L
      youtu.be/0LEoW81mUXU?si=BrBNzZoMcH_JcNeh

      The trick if one wants to have some kind of socioeconomic edge or something like that seems to be to go where people have left.

      Quietly move into an abandoned house and make it your own.

    • Soul Forensics October 11, 2023 at 1:34 am #

      “Alas , if past history is any clue , rich Yankees will move in because it is THEIR country , and make it into a Hell hole.”

      Kesa,

      Bill is a long time real estate insurance broker. He’d be at the head of the line, helping out the carpetbaggers.

      • beantownbill. October 11, 2023 at 12:36 pm #

        Soul,

        I’m not and never have been an insurance broker of any kind. Where’d you get that idea?

        • Soul Forensics October 11, 2023 at 6:36 pm #

          You brought it up with me directly about a half-year ago.

          • beantownbill. October 12, 2023 at 3:00 pm #

            You gotta be mis-thinking. I said I was a real estate broker, not an insurance broker. If in fact I did say that, then I was smoking something strong that day.

  115. Islander October 10, 2023 at 8:13 pm #

    Does anyone here recall the April 2008 election in Gaza?

    Does anyone here remember Operation Cast Lead?

    Here is a refresher:
    httpX://imeu.org/article/operation-cast-lead

    The comments oft heard here about memory-holing I guess are actually just bloviation.

    The whole disgusting history of trapping 2.5 million people in a 125-square-mile open-air concentration camp—most of whom were born there and know nothing else— are just . . .poof down this commentariat’s ol’ memory.hole.

    You all deserve to be locked up, or down, in a FEMA camp.

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    • gustafson.robert.22 October 10, 2023 at 8:56 pm #

      Until humanity learns not to get on the growth train, we will have endless futile situations like this, or a world that’s a crater. There are not multiple sides to the Israeli conflict; only one unrighteous side: the debased, toxic culture of civilization-builders and post-civilization-builders. Let them fight it out. We’ll all have our turn too.

      • Islander October 10, 2023 at 10:11 pm #

        Cop out . . .

        • gustafson.robert.22 October 10, 2023 at 10:36 pm #

          Only people I have motivation to defend, to honor their “rights” to land or anything else are people who use land correctly, unspoiled indigenous tribes. No one else deserving. The rest of us fucks can just fight it out in our inevitable clashes of societal idiocy until perhaps a few survivors prevail. No moral highground anywhere here.

        • Jarek October 11, 2023 at 2:02 am #

          Gustaph is a purist, a fanatic. I admire that. We’ve compromised on principles for so long now that our struggle may well be hopeless.

          His principles are very different of course. He chooses the canoe not the starship. But is the canoe not without meaning and value? His choice of principles is not wrong, even if we do not share them.

          • Groundhog October 11, 2023 at 11:00 am #

            And I’d prefer to choose a small dual purpose street/trail motobike as a daily driver instead of a Buick Behemoth or a Dodge Dinosaur. Is my choice of principles wrong? It seems so…….

    • Paula D October 11, 2023 at 3:08 pm #

      Are you implying that 2.5 million people are too many for a 125 square mile area?

      Watch out! You’re going to have Night Soil on your ass! Prove that 2.5 million people are too many. He’ll wait.

      See? You can’t prove it.

  116. 100th Avatar October 10, 2023 at 8:42 pm #

    Poor little Greenblatt and the ADL.
    They’re going to need to bring in Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton to help with all the shakedowns, blackmail, and payouts.

    From BLM to major universities (private and public) “standing with Palestine”

    Where is Greenblatt now?
    Why is he not decrying the “antisemitism”?
    Why is he not demanding “donation$”?

    • KesaAnna October 10, 2023 at 9:23 pm #

      My current internet news feed is flat schizophrenic.

      One side of the page is We must send a few billion more to the proxy Baptist Crusade.

      The other half of the page is Democrats ( ??? ) who are down with the Palastinian struggle.

      I guess their algorithyms don’t work.

      I don’t give a shit about either of those gangs.

  117. DaveO907 October 10, 2023 at 11:04 pm #

    Maybe I’ve seen everything now. Not sure of its provenance other than it ran on NBC Nightly News, likely in the past couple of days. I saw it as a vid clip on a YouTube channel.

    It purported to show the USS Gerald Ford steaming toward the Israeli coast.

    Flying a huge flag.

    A Ukrainian flag.

    No other flags fluttering to be seen.

    • KesaAnna October 10, 2023 at 11:25 pm #

      The other day I had to go to some town , not really very far away , but I don’t do much even short travelling these days.

      This was just before I got on CFN and heard what was going on.

      There was a yard with a Baptist flag and an Israeli flag on a pole.

      The Israeli flag was above the Baptist flag.

      I guess Jesus is secondary to , I’ll guess , the tribe they don’t belong to.

      And people think I’m fucked up.

      Another case I only read about , guy only had one flag pole , he put the Papal Flag above the U.S. Flag.

      Other Catholics were irked.

      • DaveO907 October 10, 2023 at 11:52 pm #

        Must be those Christian church sects that are working to make Noahide laws the law of the land. It’s quite the thing across the Bible Belt.

        • Jarek October 11, 2023 at 2:08 am #

          I had a book about the Noahide Laws. Polytheism or Idolatry would be punishable by death. There is only one God! The Christians believe in three so……

          Bush declared such and such a day Noahide Law day, surrounded by the Beards in the Oval Office. What an utter, miserable fool he was and is.

          Christians might respond that they aren’t polytheists. They don’t have to convince me, they’ll have to convince one of the bearded ones. Good luck with that.

          Anyway, that future is unlikely. The Satanists are stronger than the Orthodox Jews. They have their own unpleasant plans for us.

          • GreenAlba October 11, 2023 at 7:39 am #

            “The Christians believe in three so……”

            I’m no theologian, but ‘three-in-one’ is not three, as far as I can see,

          • Jarek October 11, 2023 at 1:37 pm #

            Same thing with a million gods – all reflections of the One. Our missionaries, both bearded and smooth, didn’t buy it from the Hindus.

            Think you’ll have more luck with Beards? The Muslims would say, Fine. Pay the Tax and keep it quiet. The other group fantasizes about doing something else.

      • GreenAlba October 11, 2023 at 7:37 am #

        I had no idea denominations, like the Baptists, had a flag.

        I recall feeling uncomfortable, when I was about 14 (in the north of England) during a Remembrance Sunday ceremony on 11th November (or nearest Sunday), the affilated young people’s organisations – Girl Guides/Brownies, Boys’ Brigade/Life Boys, and various ‘Rangers’ – processed through the church to the front, with their various flags, including the national flag, which were all then installed at the front of the church. At that age, it seemed totally wrong to me – I thought the national flag should have been left in the vestibule as they entered the church. I didn’t and don’t think national flags have a place inside the body of a church. Know your place, an’ all that.

    • DaveO907 October 10, 2023 at 11:49 pm #

      Turns out it was a file photo.

      Still…

    • Paula D October 11, 2023 at 3:11 pm #

      Ha, ha, a literal false flag.

      That way they can blame any carnage on Ukraine.

      Sort of like them saying that it was Russia who sold weapons on the black market to Hamas, not Ukraine.

      • Paula D October 11, 2023 at 3:11 pm #

        Hamas is using American weapons, but they got them from Russia, doncha know.

  118. hustled enough October 11, 2023 at 12:35 am #

    Dear JHK Admin,
    “And the cause of that dilemma is our legislature’s failure to control the nation’s spending.”

    And yet you had nothing to say when the former President drove us off a fiscal cliff with tax cuts for the rich and tons of extra spending? So, its OK for the Republicans to increase the debt, but it is not OK for the Democrats to do that? How does that work? I sniff the old double standard! And you want that individual back in the White House to do more of the same? And the circular firing squad called the Republican Party is going to miraculously get its shit together because … um, why exactly? Silence on that one, apart from the FAITH you offer that they will do so. Maybe you are right. Faith works like that sometimes.

    In Israel, we see the consequences of allowing someone who is facing criminal charges to be elected to high political office–they will be tempted, as Ben Net has bee–to do anything to avoid accountability and thus be distracted from the main task of keeping Israel safe–including leaving their country vulnerable to attack by pursuing policies that have deformed Israel’s democratic political stability–all in order to avoid legal troubles… well, that sounds like someone we all know in this country–the former President Trump. The glib way you approach what is happening in Israel and the Gaza at the moment makes sense–one would not want to examine that situation soberly from the Right in this country; that would be pretty dang uncomfortable–too many parallels there. A lot of people are going to continue dying in that neck of the woods…

  119. TPTB-USA October 11, 2023 at 1:16 am #

    Ep. 29 After the Hamas attacks, what’s the wise path forward?
    twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1711496189323952185

    What is the current thinking about Vivek?

    • TPTB-USA October 11, 2023 at 1:46 am #

      Wouldn’t it be refreshing if the US (and the World) had leadership who could reason and communicate like Vivek?

      I might add, that Putin strikes me as a deep thinker and good communicator as well.

      One more issue, I take it that HRC classifies me as a “deplorable”, and “Joe Biden” would classify me as a MAGA extremest, I can only assume their reason for these designations is that they know that they are commuting treason, and when the day of judgement comes, they want a base that will cover and/or die for them.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 2:14 am #

      Looks like that Vivek sure had his few cups of coffee that morning. Or something.

      Trump seems to like him.

      JRK Jr. sounded pretty convincing until recently.

      There’s talk and then there’s action. But then there’s also talk that can betray some potential actions.

      But then there’s the point about the fundamental parasitic/violence-based nature of State politics/politicians, where all the caffeinated self-promo talk in the world is seen for what it is; a crash-and-burn.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 2:17 am #

        Correction:

        “… where all the caffeinated self-promo talk in the world is seen for what it is, in the context of a crash-and-burn.”

      • TPTB-USA October 11, 2023 at 3:22 am #

        RFK Jr. had a string of subjects with canned replies, and when those subjects were used-up, it became apparent that his mind was cluttered and crippled.

        “… where all the caffeinated self-promo talk in the world is seen for what it is, in the context of a crash-and-burn.” ~ The Man They Call Zazelle

        Have you seen examples of this in Vivek yet?

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 3:44 am #

          What I mean is that Vivek is ultimately handicapped by a State perspective/schema.

          Aside from that, he seems bright and articulate but it’s uncertain that that will make much of a difference if he’s just a label on the machine.

          • TPTB-USA October 11, 2023 at 6:13 pm #

            How many potential leaders are capable of comprehending the various issues that Vivek discusses, and how many of those would be able to articulate justification for their conclusions?

    • Jarek October 11, 2023 at 2:14 am #

      N.Y Post

      US Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer told Chinese President Xi Jinping in a rare meeting Monday that he was “very disappointed” by China’s failure to strongly condemn the recent Hamas attack on Israel and show sympathy for the country and its people.

      Schumer is leading a delegation of six senators to China this week.

      The delegation, which includes three Democrats and three Republicans, is the first visit by U.S. lawmakers since 2019 and comes at a time of growing attacks on China in Congress as America contends with Beijing’s rise as a global power.

      “I urge you and the Chinese people to stand with the Israeli people and condemn these cowardly and vicious attacks,” said Schumer.

      A Chinese Foreign Ministry statement on Sunday called on both sides to exercise restraint and immediately end the hostilities — but made no mention of the unprecedented Hamas surprise attack early Saturday that has left more than 1,100 dead in fighting so far and thousands wounded on both sides.

      On Monday, Israeli soldiers were still fighting the militants to secure the border with Gaza.

      In the ministry statement, China also said that establishing an independent state of Palestine is the fundamental way to resolve the issue.

      “The recurrence of the conflict shows once again that the protracted standstill of the peace process cannot go on,” the statement said, adding that the international community needs to act with greater urgency and facilitate the sumption of peace talks.

      Schumer met earlier with the head of China’s rubber stamp parliament and the country’s highest-ranking diplomat, Wang Yi, to whom he delivered the same statement about the recent violence.

      Wang did not respond before journalists were escorted out of the room.

      Anglin: Everyone in the world is supposed to do a “poker face” at the fact that Schumer is ostensibly representing America, while very obviously representing Israel.

      China is not interested in these sorts of games.

      Jarek: Where is Putin? Where is Putin? On him depends the safety of the World. If he sides with Xi, perhaps WW3 can be staved off.

      What of the United States? It doesn’t exist anymore. It’s just a golem that obeys and punishes the enemies of its master.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 2:28 am #

        kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/here-we-go-loop-de-loop/#comment-830509

      • TPTB-USA October 11, 2023 at 3:04 am #

        Did you guys watch the interview with O’Reilly?

        Ep. 26 The Bill O’Reilly Interview
        twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1707190888861229467

        Confirmation of the dog and pony show?

      • Disaffected October 11, 2023 at 9:41 am #

        A golem. Very appropriate! Not by accident, very much like a “corporate person,” as recently defined by the SCOTUS. The Chinese are wise to listen patiently to the Zionists’ bluster, while committing to nothing. Let the Great Beast exhaust itself in every manner possible until it’s weak enough to finish off. Divide and conquer works wonders with the captive rubes here at home, but not so much overseas anymore. They’ve seen that movie one too many times before and didn’t care for the ending.

        1. In Jewish folklore, an artificially created human supernaturally endowed with life.
        2. In Jewish use, a shapeless mass; an unfinished vessel or a lifeless bulk; in modern Jewish parlance, a blockhead; a stupid.
        3. A Creature made of mud and clay. Brought to life from a magical spell on a piece of paper shoved in its mouth.

      • TPTB-USA October 11, 2023 at 6:26 pm #

        Is there any point in trying to mitigate the downturn, or should we just facilitate the demise?

        That which comes to mind, is Dalio’s writing, where there is a battle for power during empire transition periods. We need moral leadership that can make the best of a bad situation, and ultimately represent US.

    • KesaAnna October 11, 2023 at 6:04 pm #

      I think maybe I’m starting to like Tucker Carlson.

      • KesaAnna October 11, 2023 at 6:05 pm #

        Grr , that was directed at TP TB’s video , no idea why this wound up here.

      • TPTB-USA October 11, 2023 at 6:52 pm #

        Perhaps Tucker’s current format, like O’rilley predicting as being the future, coupled with a message board, is the ultimate platform for separating the wheat from the chaff.

        “Ignorance silencing knowledge” (~ Thomas Sowell), and a food fight, amount to a meaningless discussion. The above platform could ultimately filter out all the BS, and allow knowledge and wisdom to contribute.

  120. The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 2:26 am #

    If this Israel/Hamas thing is somehow some kind of Russian(/Chinese/Iran/?) ‘proxy chess-play’, say, to get NATO/USA away from Ukraine, then this Hamas-Israel attack will become a protracted/guerrilla/asymmetric war (until US[/etc.] is sufficiently bankrupted and/or goes home for good).

    Time will tell, (such as if ‘this time it’s different’).

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    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 3:11 am #

      Yes, I suspect that the NATO/USA-Ukraine ‘war’ is over and that Hamas just ‘announced’ it.

      If not, then see above.

      • Disaffected October 11, 2023 at 8:47 am #

        More likely that this is just primarily a cover operation initiated by the western Zionist coalition for how bad things continue to go in Ukraine and possibly lure Putin into the fray down south to dilute his capabilities closer to home.

        But either way, DC continues to believe that Russia is overextended and weak, when in fact, it is just the opposite, especially in those regions and considering that China is now totally alienated too. The western hegemon is failing and is now thrashing about like a fish out of water waiting to be put out of its misery. Credit to Putin and Xi that they’re both smart enough to simply get out of the way and try to minimize the damage while that process plays out. The kill shot will have to wait for now.

        Yes, the Palestinians will pay the price for all this shit in the short term, but they were always going to get royally screwed anyway. It “goes with the territory,” so to speak.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 5:23 pm #

          I wonder where the over 1000 dead count came from and how true it is.
          If true, is that like some kind of let’s-try-from-bad-to-way-worse strategy?

          I don’t need to remind people that Israel, as a kind of American rep/sociogeopolitical-extension, is surrounded by a whole lot of States that might have some problems with that and the US in general.

          Palestine? Iraq (Collateral murder video)? Iran? Syria (‘Assad must go’)? Egypt (‘We came, we saw he died.’)?

          Looks like a salad.

        • Ron Anselmo October 12, 2023 at 1:12 am #

          Dis – nice recap, well-said.

          “The western hegemon is failing and is now thrashing about like a fish out of water waiting to be put out of its misery.” ~ Disaffected

          The first thing in processing a just caught fish, is to bleed the fish. Bleeding the fish properly, guarantees a nice filet with no “fishy” taste.

          The world is tired of the Deep State’s fishy taste we’ll be bled this time for sure.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 3:32 am #

      Get Out Of Dodge?

      Caught this just now:

      A multi-front war now threatens Israel after fire from Lebanon and Syria. The Israeli Defence Force said it is carrying out artillery strikes in Syria. The IDF defended strikes as a response to mortar shelling in northern Israel. The Israeli forces stated that they were targeting the origin of the mortar fire. Earlier, shelling was also reported on Israel’s volatile northern border with Lebanon.” ~ youtu.be/rJEqomr6fW4?si=5rpAxv7xHFkQzvm8

    • Disaffected October 11, 2023 at 8:27 am #

      NBC News on Peacock now has a special “hub” called Israel at War to keep us all informed of “what we need to know,” to borrow CNN’s and others latest catch phrase. Personally, I’m waiting for the collectables markets to come alive. T Shirts, bumper stickers, coffee cups, desk and wall plaques, signed photos, desktop wallpaper, etc. I expect the headless babies markets for all that stuff to go through the roof!

      • DaveO907 October 11, 2023 at 3:22 pm #

        The Hill and Knowlton “INCUBATORS!” redux as delivered by a Kuwaiti diplomat’s daughter.

        Our propagandists—so much further empowered since Iraq 1.0 by 2015’s CIA domestic propaganda-made-legal by Obama, then-Rep Chris Murphy & Sen Rob Portman in their “Countering Foreign Propaganda and Disinformation Act.

        Those Three Mouseketeers killed 1947’s sixty eight year-old Smith-Mundt Act that was meant to keep the CIA in check.

        Shows to go you, “You can’t keep a ‘good’ man (like Allen Dulles) down forever.” Even if he was long-dead and moldering.

        (Cue a corpse’s evil grin.)

        • Disaffected October 11, 2023 at 6:45 pm #

          And just in time for Helloween!

  121. The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 2:33 am #

    Trump is soooo Trump-licious!

    “Yesterday I forced myself to watch Tucker Carlson’s interview of Donald Trump on X (formerly Twitter). I was pleasantly surprised: it was more entertaining than painful. Trump was actually somewhat funny, especially when eviscerating Biden and Harris, and even somewhat charming.” ~ Dmitry Orlov

    • Disaffected October 11, 2023 at 8:22 am #

      Maybe he should run for Court Jester instead? Good role for the Donald. Already has a patented catch phrase.

      • BackRowHeckler October 11, 2023 at 9:11 am #

        They seem to be from the same clique; BLM, anti Israel activists, Antifa, and all these student groups on elite college campuses who have come out of the woodwork waving Palestinian flags.

        It’s not real clear what these people would like to see happen. The hatred they display is over the top. What would satisfy them? Israel overrun? Israelis driven into the Mediterranean? A new Holocaust?

        • BackRowHeckler October 11, 2023 at 9:13 am #

          Wrong spot. This was in response to Cave painters posts below. My apologies.

        • Groundhog October 11, 2023 at 10:18 am #

          What would satisfy them? It might not take as much as you think. Let’s hope that maybe a trip to the tatoo parlor or beauty shop to get their hair dyed blue would be enough satisfaction.

        • JohnAZ October 11, 2023 at 4:24 pm #

          What would satisfy them?

          That is easy.

          Destruction of the United States.

          Their big problem, and ours, is they are so ignorant, they have no idea what to put in its place.

          All the way up to Bernie Sanders.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 5:38 pm #

            Don’t Let The Door Hit You On The Way Our

            The USA seems to be already decaying all on its very own, so any attempt at ‘destroying’ it would seem more like just going with the flow or, at best (worst?), helping it along.

  122. Night Owl October 11, 2023 at 4:27 am #

    “BREAKING REPORT: Nak-d selfie of Joe Biden’s younger brother Frank wearing ONLY CAP AND GLASSES shows up on gay dating site”

    https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1711409344800039069

    LOL. The entire family are a bunch of degenerates.

    • Disaffected October 11, 2023 at 8:20 am #

      LOL! Frankie boy’s looking pretty jacked. Maybe it was Frank that tossed ol’ Corn Pop that fateful day at the pool? Or was the encounter perhaps a little more amorous instead? Hmm…

      • Ron Anselmo October 12, 2023 at 1:23 am #

        Maybe when Frank met him, he was just called Corn. After that…who knows?

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 5:09 pm #

      Although anything’s possible, it looks like yet more Photoshopped nonsense.

      “@ChuckCallesto… Social Media Strategist” ~ Chuck’s X(/ex-Twitter) page heading

      (rolls eyes)

  123. Cavepainter October 11, 2023 at 8:01 am #

    Basis for this war is the same as always; most people have LOW TOLERANCE FOR AMBIGUITY, so necessarily “spin” interpretations that restore a sense of ACTIONABLE BELIEF.

    • Cavepainter October 11, 2023 at 8:29 am #

      The enemies of Israel are thereby no different from BLM and the rest of the Cancel Culture Cult here in the US; casting blame on others instead of recognizing missed opportunities due to their own poor choices.

      • JohnAZ October 11, 2023 at 4:29 pm #

        Exactly right on target.

        The gimmes want everything and now, world-wide. They have always been with us. They used to starve, now they are coddled.

  124. mitchellc October 11, 2023 at 9:29 am #

    Well, once again the master-of-ceremonies has demonstrate that he is still in charge of the show.

    Who watches what the magician is actually doing while he diverts audience attention with a one-two follow-up, first with Ukraine, then with Palestine?

    And even if you carefully observe the act to watch the trick play out, so what? If the larger context, what is the purpose of the magician or any other single entertainment act?

    Careful now, remember we’re dealing with a 3-ring circus; but more importantly, the company is a commercial enterpise engaged in the “entertainment business”.

    So, let’s step back and consider recent events in the contex of the larger, macro view. As usual, we start from the basis that our entire existence is nothing more than a game of king of the hill.

    And what is the king attempting to corner? Yes, energy. Why? Because it is the foundation of all life. Control energy, control life, control all that comes from that singular advantage.

    We understand the kinetic aspects of the conflict; it’s the most base and obvious. But what of the more sophisticated game, the one involving the science of human emotional control?

    This is where the fun lies, teasing out the seemingly disparate threads that in actuality all lead back to the same source, the master-of-ceremones mentioned above.

    At a superficial level, we can see the media manipulation at its most course: who decides and determines who is the victim and who is the oppressor? Is there no rhyme nor reason?

    But who cares, right? I mean, getting down in the mud and arguing over artificial constructs is the hallmark of a drone, someone simply being used and to be discarded once their useful life is over.

    The real value of intelligent places like CFN is to consider the game withing the game; inside geo politics. We know what it’s all about, so we must remind ourselves to stay focused on the big picture.

    • BackRowHeckler October 11, 2023 at 10:01 am #

      Your view pre supposes the existence an omnipotent guiding hand controlling events; I don’t see any guiding hand, I see chaos.

      • gustafson.robert.22 October 11, 2023 at 10:27 am #

        People long for a big daddy in the sky or behind the scenes, even if he is a bad daddy.

        • Disaffected October 11, 2023 at 10:44 am #

          Big, bad, daddy! Sounds like a great rap lyric.

        • GreenAlba October 11, 2023 at 12:32 pm #

          “People long for a big daddy in the sky […]”

          Sometimes, Big Daddy in the Sky comes to people entirely unbidden and totally unwanted. CS Lewis, in his book Surprised by Joy, describes how he got on a train an atheist at the start of his journey and got off it a Christian at the other end, ‘the most reluctant convert in all England’.

          • GreenAlba October 11, 2023 at 12:35 pm #

            To avoid confusion, neither the train nor the journey was not a metaphor – he got on an actual train and came off it a different person when he arrived at his destination.

          • GreenAlba October 11, 2023 at 12:35 pm #

            ‘was’, not ‘was not’.

          • gustafson.robert.22 October 11, 2023 at 12:50 pm #

            Maybe I should have said “…a more explicable daddy than the ‘daddy’ who is actually there.”

            You absolutely do not have to be an athiest (in my opinion) to believe that gloriously huge helpings of chaos, and purposes that reach far beyond, and rarely coincide with, human priorities and opinions on morality… govern the universe.

          • gustafson.robert.22 October 11, 2023 at 12:51 pm #

            ..and govern it well.

          • OG October 11, 2023 at 2:47 pm #

            Throw in a giant scoop of good old-fashioned American incompetence and no further explanation is ever required.

            ***
            But 9/11 was a one-off? Ya think?

      • King of Comedy October 11, 2023 at 11:04 am #

        It’s the modern corollary of the deterministic Medieval worldview… Klaus Schwab standing in for God, the Illuminati guiding everything from the hand of Gavrilo Princip to the choice of the Best New Artist winner at the MTV Music Awards.

        It’s a helluva thing being privy to this powerful gnosis revealed to only a few and to some at least, it’s a lot more comforting to believe somebody’s in charge, no matter how despicable, than to have to contemplate the alternative.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 6:14 pm #

          Direct & Indirect Presences & The Flows/Trips/Boxes Through Them

          In this video…

          youtu.be/tpxUHmd5fj0?si=bFhSKE40ZUTavAUx

          …at one point, the bus-driver rolls his eyes up into his head, so as to seem to be falling asleep at the wheel.

          In it, you can see a cast of characters playing those counterparts in real life, like the girl who sees the world, the wars, through her cellphone-cam/media. So she doesn’t quite see them or understand them, certainly not as she would if she was truly present. The visceral is missing.

          Of course the ‘messenger’ or ‘wizard’– presumably the oldest, most experienced, wisest of the characters on the bus– is talking about love and maybe presence and banging his staff against the floor as if to wake people up with the message.

          Toward the end, it appears that the people on the bus seem to wake up a little more. But then the end cuts to the protagonist who himself is lost in thought at a train station and then has to get on a train for yet another trip, another flow/segment/box.

          —-

          So why port-royal for a name for the group/project? Perhaps…

          “Port Royal is a town located at the end of the Palisadoes, at the mouth of Kingston Harbour, in southeastern Jamaica. Founded in 1494 by the Spanish, it was once the largest city in the Caribbean, functioning as the centre of shipping and commerce in the Caribbean Sea by the latter half of the 17th century. It was destroyed by an earthquake on 7 June 1692, which had an accompanying tsunami, leading to the establishment of Kingston, which is now the largest city in Jamaica…

          Port Royal was once home to privateers who were encouraged to attack Spanish vessels, at a time when smaller European nations were reluctant to attack Spain directly. As a port city, it was notorious for its gaudy displays of wealth and loose morals. It was a popular homeport for the English and Dutch-sponsored privateers to spend their treasure during the 17th century. When those governments abandoned the practice of issuing letters of marque to privateers against the Spanish treasure fleets and possessions in the later 16th century, many of the crews turned pirate. They continued to use the city as their main base during the 17th century. Pirates from around the world congregated at Port Royal, coming from waters as far away as Madagascar.” ~ Wikipedia

      • Jarek October 11, 2023 at 1:46 pm #

        No, he doesn’t believe in that. He believe there are major Actors in charge of events, sometimes cooperating and sometimes in conflict.

        The Report From Iron Mountain spoke of “managed conflict”. Is this a managed conflict? Such things do get out of control.

        Chaos? That just means that your preconceptions were wrong and you’re unable to adapt to what is unfolding – much less look behind the curtain as some of us trying to do.

        When the body dies, is the body then subject to chaos? Or is it subject to another orderly process, that of decay, involving an internal process, and outside actors as well: vultures, dogs, insects, etc?

    • mitchellc October 11, 2023 at 12:58 pm #

      Guys and gals, the MoC is simply a metaphor for the collective power groups who understand perfectly well what is occurring.

      I’ve said it many times before: it’s an open club, anyone is welcome to join. All that is required is either capital or charisma; sometimes both.

      Clinton, Blair, Bush, et al, willing servants of capital. Billy G, Soros, et al, deep pockets but no ability to directly effect public policy.

      Yet all understand perfectly well, just as their predecesors did each preceding generation: territory, energy, people, tribute.

      It’s a simple model, but if it appears too complex, there can be a tendency to throw up ones hands in exasperation and declare the world to be ruled by chaos and entirely random events

      • gustafson.robert.22 October 11, 2023 at 1:53 pm #

        How do you know any of these folks are particularly clear-headed or all that possessed of quality foresight, Mitch?

        I’d bet that well into the 21st century, most of these high-escheloners still believed some as-yet-undetermined techno-fix or other could solve the hydrocarbon-decline energy-scarcity problem, and I’m sure some still do.

        • OG October 11, 2023 at 2:26 pm #

          You’re such a good little sheep, Gus.

          ***
          “Yeah. We’re trying to come up with new and better ways to grow the human population to nine and then ten billion. Yeah, that’s what we’re doing. That’s the ticket!

          Now go eat your Doritos and leave the planning to us.”

          • gustafson.robert.22 October 11, 2023 at 3:09 pm #

            Plenty of them do want more pop growth, “for the economy.” Musk isn’t alone in any way there.

          • OG October 11, 2023 at 3:24 pm #

            Anybody who truly wants population growth is not in the Big Club.

          • gustafson.robert.22 October 11, 2023 at 3:27 pm #

            That’s, like, your opinion, man.

          • OG October 11, 2023 at 3:40 pm #

            You are a very different duck, Gus. You somehow understood to not partake in the shots … but you don’t even know why you were right to do so.

          • GreenAlba October 11, 2023 at 5:54 pm #

            Gus, the British Eugenics Society, that formed in the early 20th Century, and its outgrowth, The American Eugenics Society, weren’t thinking about techo-fixes – they were thinking about how to reduce the population. They included huge numbers of the intelligentsia – George Bernard Shaw (he of the ‘death panels’ and mouthpiece of the Astor family, apparently), Henry Wellcome, HG Wells, the Huxleys …

            Hitler was greatly influenced by them (as he was by British concentration camps for the Boers). They call themselves by other names now. Nobody looks at the Wellcome Trust now and thinks ‘depopulation’. But Professor Sarah Gilbert (now Dame Sarah Gilbert, for services rendered) who led the Oxford covid ‘vaccine’ effort, along with Astra Zeneca, and her colleague, Adrian Hill, have connections to the old British Eugenics Society by other names. Whitney Webb did some stellar investigation into it.

            The more you look into any of this, the less you see ‘incompetence’ and ‘chaos’, unless you are determined to see them because the alternative is too unpalatable.

          • GreenAlba October 11, 2023 at 6:02 pm #

            I think the Sarah Gilbert story is worth repeating. Professor Gilbert led the effort to produce the Oxford/AZ ‘vaccine’. AZ has quietly been dropped in the UK for a long time now, in favour of Pfizer/Moderna, because of bad publicity about blood clots in younger people. Early on, people under 40 in the UK were given the choice between AZ and Pfizer (heck of a choice …) because of this.

            And now AZ is principally distributed in developing countries (pretty much the way cigarettes were pushed there when health regulations turned against them here). But Professor Gilbert was made a Dame nonetheless.

            Is that incompetence too?

          • gustafson.robert.22 October 11, 2023 at 6:53 pm #

            Yes, GA.
            There are certainly the depop crowd among econ elites.

            A lot of that eugenics stuff was more prevalent late 19th/early 20th though (for instance, the examples you list), before the glorious tech revolution of the late 20th.

            I believe there are two factions among TPTB now, the depops and the more-pops. I don’t think there’s consensus or real coordination… or any strong and unified plan going on. That’s just how I’d wager it.

          • OG October 11, 2023 at 10:23 pm #

            “Yeah. With all the sweet, easy oil burnt, what we need now is more people. That’s the plan! That’s the ticket!”

          • OG October 11, 2023 at 10:25 pm #

            Bill Gates’d be like, “Who let this guy in here?”

          • Paula D October 12, 2023 at 2:10 pm #

            That is not how I understood the eugenics movement.

            Back in the 19th century, as both genetics and evolution became understood, many people thought that humans could be perfected as a species, if people with desirable qualities were encouraged to breed with each other, and people with undesirable qualities were discouraged.

            There was no genocide planned. And eugenics and genocide are not the same thing.

            As I understand it, the quality they preferred was a good constitution. That is, a healthy mesomorph. I haven’t heard of brains being considered.

            Nowadays, of course, almost everyone is a eugenicist, they just don’t know it.

            The movie Idiocracy speaks to many people.

            Why are idiots breeding so much, while intelligent people refrain?

            The zero population growth people are not the same. They aren’t trying to improve the species, they are trying to reduce the numbers.
            And most of them don’t advocate actual genocide, although the more stupid among us cannot seem to grasp the difference, and hurl accusations wildly. (How ironic.)

          • GreenAlba October 12, 2023 at 5:47 pm #

            Paula – there is footage on YouTube of George Bernard Shaw literally saying people should present themselves every 5 years before a panel and demonstrate that they had produced more than they had consumed, in order for the panel to decide whether or not they should be allowed to carry on living.

            youtube.com/watch?v=OBZsTf6oLfY

          • Paula D October 12, 2023 at 7:35 pm #

            I am surprised that Shaw would say such a thing. I thought he was a man of the people.

            But I would argue that weeding out what Hitler called Useless Eaters, and the folks around here call The Gimmes, has nothing to do with breeding superior humans, which is more about encouraging good bloodlines, like breeding excellent collies or corgis. Although I guess you could argue that killing off the unproductive stops their bloodline pretty efficiently. But I don’t think that was part of the official narrative.

            Neither is it genocide, which refers to killing off masses of humans as specific groups.

            I guess Hitler did kill off Useless Eaters, but I think he did it by picking entire groups like the mentally retarded or the handicapped, not by panels judging productivity.

          • Night Owl October 13, 2023 at 2:54 am #

            Paula D. with no idea what she/it is talking about, as so often.

  125. mitchellc October 11, 2023 at 10:47 am #

    This poster @ MoA gets it:

    I feel like the boiled frog scheme. How long has it taken? It started decades ago. Now we are here. I now know weapons systems, battlefields, mass daily casualties and now full throated talk of exterminating ‘savages’.

    Yup we have been made ready for the great billion people war deaths and wastelands.

    Of course Israel is the suicide bomber that will not survive – but it may succeed in irradiating the ancient lands of Mesopotamia as well as erasing the new glass cities in the desert. Bye bye to these airport hubs – I shan’t miss them.
    How about what’s left of the steppes?

    Of course the carrier groups that have bottled themselves into the Mediterranean , know they won’t be leaving, happy to join the hulks from WW2 – will their top admirals be going down with their fleet – as far as i have seen from the social media postings about unhappiness , the majority of the crew looks as if it’s been drawn from the US ghettos- sacrificial slaves yet again.

    Interesting that withdrawal of the secret Israeli forces fighting in Ukraine , coincides with this ‘surprise’ attack -where apparently thousands of casualties are being declared. I wonder if…? Nah even the conspiracy manufacturers can’t be THAT. Crazy? Right. Right…?

    Mind you 600 comments in less than 24 hours. Nope haven’t read them and unlikely to.
    That’s some escalation … it’s like being invaded by a traveller wedding party! Watch out for broken furniture and bare knuckle fighting.

    Hope the bar survives.

    Time to call in the millions of boots on the ground that may preserve us all – better learn some Chinese – as the turn up, under paid, under sexed, over here !

    I think all these ex US bases will make for great new towns once their toxic spillages have been cleared up.
    Posted by: DunGroanin | Oct 11 2023 11:41 utc | 596

    The Anglo-Persian Oil Company was a British company founded in 1909 following the discovery of a large oil field in Masjed Soleiman, Persia (Iran).

    Balfour declaration 8 years later in 1917 sets the foundation for Israel, smack dab in the middle of then still extant Ottoman empire and the already well known massive oil reserves throughout the ME.

    JHK was right on the money a decade ago when he was focusing on the coming end of the age of energy and growth. So here we are, informed and armed with sufficient knowledge to tie all the pieces together into a coherent picture.

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    • Cavepainter October 11, 2023 at 11:04 am #

      See my remarks upstream to consider that just as possible is no single “guiding hand”, but instead that megalomaniacal opportunists simply exploiting what is detected to be a broadening collective self-delusion.

    • Disaffected October 11, 2023 at 11:11 am #

      Interesting that withdrawal of the secret Israeli forces fighting in Ukraine , coincides with this ‘surprise’ attack -where apparently thousands of casualties are being declared. I wonder if…? Nah even the conspiracy manufacturers can’t be THAT. Crazy? Right. Right…?

      Wrong. He’d better watch out there. Getting dangerously close to the truth, and the “freedom” it imparts definitely won’t be comfortable.

      I just wonder if they can pull off another pandemic and two wars at the same time – “Trifecta” of sorts? They’re getting better at this with every iteration, so ya never know. One definitely senses a quickening(!!!) in recent events.

      • SoftStarLight October 11, 2023 at 1:35 pm #

        Trifecta! I love that word lol.

      • Jarek October 11, 2023 at 1:58 pm #

        The Quickening: When one Highlander kills another, he gets his energy.

        There can only be One!

      • GreenAlba October 11, 2023 at 6:06 pm #

        They predicted a ‘polycrisis – their word. In a four horses of the apocalypse kinda way, I suppose. I predict empty shelves, some time next year.

        • Night Owl October 13, 2023 at 2:56 am #

          Behold ze Polycvisis!

    • Ron Anselmo October 12, 2023 at 12:01 am #

      “JHK was right on the money a decade ago…” ~ mitchellc

      Well more than a decade ago – closer to two decades ago.

  126. elysianfield October 11, 2023 at 11:51 am #

    Well, ladies and germs;

    A parable (And this is a true story)

    Last night, as I was cleaning the kitchen, I brought a few scraps of food out for the two little dogs that I live with. As I approached one, I saw, to my horror, that a huge skunk, black and white striped, was in the middle of the living room cleaning out the dog’s food dish (I have a doggie door installed nearby). I suggested that the skunk leave, addressing him directly, and he/she/it slowly waddled to a spot behind a couch, and there would not leave, even with gentle prompting. Both dogs were in attendance, and seem unconcerned.

    Well, my options were limited, and, had the animal “hurled his missile” in the house, untold effort might be required to redress the outrage. Kinetic methods were out of the question, obviously. What to do?

    I gathered the two dogs, placed them in my bedroom, closed the bedroom door, and slept the sleep of the righteous. In the morning, the skunk was gone. I have blocked the dog door, and now must attend to the dogs nature by some method of training their bladders to a routine.

    It became obvious that the well-cleaned plates set out for each dog, has been subsidizing the skunk, perhaps for months. Why did not the dogs repel this invader? Why did they not say anything? The hue and cry? I have closed my “border” and opt for a two state solution…the skunk outside, the dogs inside.

    Sooo, onto the Middle East. An interloper, reluctantly accepted, certainly nurtured, with goals not fully understood, takes advantage, an unsteady peace, an eventual outrage, and me, the hegemon, unable to bring my prodigious assets to bear, requiring a …retreat.

    The skunk and the dogs, got along. Why? Both are, at the core, civil creatures, and both are without religion.

    • JaiSeli October 11, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

      Kudos to your closing statement and the way you resolved the issue.

    • SoftStarLight October 11, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

      Lol how precious!! Well you could keep your doggy door open and put down orange or lemon peels and cayenne pepper on the floor at the entrance and that might very well keep the skunky away. Although they are so presh I can understand how that would be difficult and possibly traumatizing. I don’t assume that dogs and skunks don’t have religion. We wouldn’t want to get into the arena of being speciesist now would we EF.

      • Ron Anselmo October 11, 2023 at 11:54 pm #

        “Religion is the smile on a dog.” ~ Edie Brickell

        • SoftStarLight October 12, 2023 at 2:43 am #

          I like this.

          • Ron Anselmo October 12, 2023 at 2:16 pm #

            Fell in love with her music & lyrics long ago.

            First time I saw her and her original band – Edie Brickell and The New Bohemians perform – was on SNL. Complete awe. Dreamy.

            Look up dreamy in the dictionary:

            1) SoftStarLight
            2) Edie Brickell

    • stelmosfire October 11, 2023 at 2:18 pm #

      Haha, good one. Mr. Skunk gets the Big Fella to stand down. Ol’ polecat follows Teddy R. diplomacy, “Waddle slowly and carry a big stick”

    • Disaffected October 11, 2023 at 3:19 pm #

      Ely the Peacemaker! Dare I say it… the “Prince…” of Peace?

    • DaveO907 October 11, 2023 at 3:34 pm #

      Well-played!

    • KesaAnna October 11, 2023 at 5:01 pm #

      You’re a Narcissist !

      Just joking.

      Politics is so fucking depressing that if people want to share stories , fancies , hobbies , or anecdotes , it doesn’t particularly break my heart.

      I come here primarily for the company anyway.

      The actions of dogs ?

      I haven’t a fucking clue.

      Like on IQ scale dogs appear to be retarded.

      But at the same time they strike me as far more sensible and practical than humans.

      How to reconcile that ?

      About every three to six months , it’s like a regular schedule ,

      my dog comes in smelling of Skunk chemical warfare.

      You can powerfully smell that the dog has been messing with a skunk.

      Reminds me of that old TV commercial , ” Messing with Sasquatch “.

      I never see any dead Skunks around the house though.

      So I speculate the dog just plays with the Skunk , and the Skunk doesn’t want to play.

    • Groundhog October 11, 2023 at 9:21 pm #

      A skunk is the very most powerfully armed creature on the planet – a skunk can easily make a wolf or a mountain lion back down. Back in the 70’s when I was a grubby backpacker I used to hike a lot in the Great Smokies up in the high country. There were a few shelters like Spence Field that had resident skunks who lived around the backpackers overnite shelters installed by the park service. These are open lean to’s built of logs or stone and with bunks and a fireplace. I’ve experienced cold wet nites around warm fires and a skunk comes in to shake down a bunch of hikers. We share peanuts, candy bars etc. with the obviously panhandling skunk. One very cold night I had the great fortune to actually sleep with a skunk curled up at the foot of my sleeping bag. I forgot about it, nothing I could do about it, and the animal was gone the next morning.

  127. JaiSeli October 11, 2023 at 12:24 pm #

    Crazy sand niggas doing exactly what the United SNAKES CORP, D[e]C[eit] Turd-Pond Sludgers want: WW3

    • SoftStarLight October 11, 2023 at 1:20 pm #

      fyi – this language is inartful

      • Ron Anselmo October 11, 2023 at 11:51 pm #

        Yes SSL, maybe inartful, but still free speech. We have to keep free speech sacred, lest we lose all words – along with your words which are artful. Let artful be in the ears of the listener.

        • Paula D October 12, 2023 at 2:14 pm #

          Thank you, Ron!

  128. Htruth October 11, 2023 at 1:40 pm #

    Supernova Concert Site Location Moved 2 Days Before Attack In Israel: https://youtu.be/M3E2ZGXs_do?si=zbtu6eoomfZbSDyh

  129. OG October 11, 2023 at 1:45 pm #

    OG: What made me, my gf, Dave and millions of others ill, Mszn? Was it just psychosomatic? Or was it something?

    Mashed spuds zilch nada: I don’t know, but I do know they faked stats, symptoms, etc., and they have never shown us an isolate.
    You break logic and believe it exists because you felt sick around that time.
    Faith is fine for some things, but I don’t employ it when dealing with known psychopaths.

    WTF are you talking about, Mszn? I do not have faith that I had the very, very worst flu of my 58 years in April 2023! I most definitely had it and it was most definitely something. I do not have faith that it exists – I know that it, whatever it is, exists – for a fact.

    I do not break logic to know that something made me ill! It would be illogical to think otherwise.

    You break logic with, “The bad guys would show me their bug if it existed!” and “The bad guys rigged their stats therefore it does not even exist!”

    That is not logic, little girl. That is your sickly pride because you’ve painted yourself into a corner and now you say, “I like it here! I wanted to stand here for 24 hours until I can finally tippy-toe out of this room.”

    Millions got ill from something, Mszn. I do not know exactly what and neither do you but it was definitely something. D’uh!

    ***
    I believe that you run on bad assumptions, Mszn. I say that “something” exists but you hear, ‘I believe TPTB hook-line-and-sinker.’ That, of course, is the complete opposite of logic, little girl.

    You’re a one-trick pony and your trick sucks turds.

    • SoftStarLight October 11, 2023 at 2:35 pm #

      fyi – this language is suboptimal

      • OG October 11, 2023 at 2:52 pm #

        fyi – While I appreciate your constructive feedback, SSL, it is a red herring while I logically smack zilch nada around.

        • Islander October 11, 2023 at 4:13 pm #

          “fyi – While I appreciate your constructive feedback, SSL, it is a red herring while I logically smack zilch nada around.”

          We are so lucky to have you.

          • OG October 11, 2023 at 4:50 pm #

            Indeed.

          • SoftStarLight October 11, 2023 at 5:08 pm #

            lol

        • Night Owl October 13, 2023 at 3:02 am #

          Something did exist that made you sick (I myself have a sniffle right now), but there is no evidence that “Covid-19” exists.

          I know it is hard for you to engage in conversation with us, Ogger, but perhaps there is some hope.

          Contemplate the initial statement, and return when you are able to communicate your thoughts in a less emotional manner.

  130. Islander October 11, 2023 at 2:11 pm #

    Remember I said, Connect the dots between Ukraine and Israel?

    Well, here ya go:

    httpX://johnhelmer.net/the-silence-of-the-bears-russia-is-reorienting-towards-the-arabs/

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    • OG October 11, 2023 at 2:32 pm #

      We’re so lucky to have you.

    • KesaAnna October 11, 2023 at 9:55 pm #

      The Complete Dances with Bears Comic Book looks good.

      That cover art should be a wall poster.

  131. SoftStarLight October 11, 2023 at 2:39 pm #

    When my outdoors kitty Squeaky was alive he would let a gregarious armadillo eat his food and he also had a possum friend who would eat his food. I remember going out on the porch one time and scolding the possum and both the possum and Squeaky just looked at me as if they were perplexed lol. So then I just said fine eat it all up little piggy lol. Squeaky just started grooming himself. Animals are so fun. What is your totem animal?

    • malthuss October 11, 2023 at 4:14 pm #

      here in cali I see possums like cat food…and will enter houses to have some.

      • SoftStarLight October 11, 2023 at 5:07 pm #

        Oh wow that is interesting! I didn’t realize that y’all have possums in SoCal!

        • malthuss October 12, 2023 at 3:40 pm #

          racoons n possums in west los angeles…coyotes. i saw a falcon at the open mall. top floor has no roof.

    • Ron Anselmo October 11, 2023 at 11:40 pm #

      SSL – you have a totem animal. What is yours?

      • SoftStarLight October 12, 2023 at 2:33 am #

        The Cat.

        • beantownbill. October 12, 2023 at 2:55 pm #

          Hey, SSL, the cat is my totem, too. Does that mean we are related?

          • SoftStarLight October 12, 2023 at 3:24 pm #

            Yes. We are actually related.

      • Blackbird October 12, 2023 at 1:00 pm #

        Ok Ron, SecureSocketLayer* just showed us her spirit animal – now you show us yours.

        *How I read “SSL”.

        • Ron Anselmo October 12, 2023 at 3:06 pm #

          Easy. Cape Buffalo. As we age, we eventually realize that all systems and enterprises are predatory – law, banking, insurance, health care, car sales, real estate – you name it – all of them.

          There is only one animal that is absolutely fearless, not only taking on all predators – but taking the fight to the predators in the defense of its young, elderly and herd – the Cape Buffalo.

          A little anecdote: in identifying with the Cape Buffalo, and also as a social experiment on unquestioned bullshit acronym credentials – after my signature on my personal email, I have the Initials, CFB – Ron Anselmo, CFB

          Over the past 15 years, it has gone to thousands – JHK, bankers, lawyers, RE agents, friends, acquaintances & CEO’s. Confirming my thesis on bullshit acronyms, exactly two people have questioned the acronym/credential.

          I explained the above to the two – that I am so adamant and passionate about taking on all predators, that the acronym actually stands for… “Cape Fuckin’ Buffalo”. It’s been fun and it has served me well – most people get my drift.

          Sorry you asked now, aren’t you? As Paul Harvey would say, now you know…the rest of the story.

          • SoftStarLight October 12, 2023 at 3:28 pm #

            Very nice! Can my nickname for you be Buffalo Man? You have horns too lol 🙂

          • Ron Anselmo October 12, 2023 at 4:47 pm #

            OK, but you have to take away my strike. I have to have comfort in knowing I have three swings.

      • Paula D October 12, 2023 at 2:17 pm #

        Pig in Australia steals 18 beers, gets drunk, fights cow.

        ://grist.org/living/this-pig-stole-18-beers-got-drunk-and-fought-a-cow/

        • beantownbill. October 12, 2023 at 9:10 pm #

          You know those pigs – they just can’t hold their alcohol.

  132. anmariwakaranai October 11, 2023 at 2:52 pm #

    Message of Our Lady to Padre “Oliveira” on June 17, 2023:
    Beloved son, listen carefully: In October of this year, a period of great tribulation will begin, which I predicted when I was in France, Portugal and Spain. [1] On these three occasions, I spoke about the cause of these tribulations.

    (PASSAGE OMITTED) find links and more at afterthewarning.com

    Be prepared, above all spiritually, because this period will not come with a bang, but will be gradual and will spread slowly throughout the world. The war that has started will increase, as you have already seen. [2] There will be droughts, great storms and earthquakes in many places of the world. But as my Divine Son said, when you hear these rumors [3], do not be afraid! Always use the Miraculous Medal from today on, and distribute the medal to your flock as well. Sickness will not be the only evil that will spread; spiritual evil will be worse. Sickness will however be a great scourge. Put the medal of Saint Benedict on the door, and do not forget to use the scapular. Bless candles, oil, and water. Have no more doubts about the Oil of the Good Samaritan: bless it and use it. Seek to remain in a state of grace, because the demons have set upon humanity with strong temptations, especially against priests. Pray for them and pray for yourself too, as you are a priest. Always remember who you are! Pray also for your bishop and for all bishops. Pray much for the Holy Father: make fasts and sacrifices for him. I, your Mother and Queen, will be with all those who entrust themselves to my care, and I will not leave any of my children helpless. As I have promised many times, this time is part of what I said in my Third Secret in Portugal.

    (PASSAGE OMITTED).

    • OG October 11, 2023 at 2:59 pm #

      make fasts and sacrifices for [H]im

      Thank you, anmari. I fast each week from Tuesday evening through to Thursday lunch. Your post today nourished my resolve. God bless you.

      • OG October 11, 2023 at 11:41 pm #

        Fasting is agitating. I’ve been told that gut-health is a key driver of one’s mental health. When I starve my gut-flora each Wednesday, it makes me really agitated. I sure look forward to lunch tomorrow!

        ***
        Also, the Montreal Canadiens blowing a 5-3 lead in the 3rd period in Toronto tonight definitely did nothing to alleviate my agitated state.

    • SoftStarLight October 11, 2023 at 3:09 pm #

      We received rain today and I said thank you to God. The Lord takes away and the Lord gives.

    • 100th Avatar October 11, 2023 at 3:25 pm #

      Why ain’t that bitch “appearing” on Twitter?

      • anmariwakaranai October 11, 2023 at 3:43 pm #

        She appears in the world 100th, but She is not of the world.

      • OG October 11, 2023 at 4:48 pm #

        You will regret your blasphemy, 100. Truly you are better than that.

      • Jarek October 11, 2023 at 10:27 pm #

        The Koran chastises the Jews for calling her a whore.

        Pray for the Holy Father? Francis? He’s not holy…..

  133. OG October 11, 2023 at 3:11 pm #

    A few weeks ago I told CFN of the beautiful baby blue 1952 Pontiac that I saw in my parents’ condo’s underground parking. The mid-70s owner had his beauty out at a car show yesterday … where he suddenly died.

    ***
    Mom & Dad (also mid-70s) still plan on their next jabs (flu & COVID) tomorrow.

    • Disaffected October 11, 2023 at 3:14 pm #

      Gonna grab the car at least? the owner won’t be using it.

      • OG October 11, 2023 at 3:22 pm #

        I never the guy so I’m assuming that I rank pretty low. It sure is a beauty.

        • OG October 11, 2023 at 3:30 pm #

          *I never knew the guy …

    • SoftStarLight October 11, 2023 at 3:18 pm #

      “Momma, you can tell me to button up all you want too but I’m telling y’all that y’all are puttin y’all selves in grave danger by takin them shots”

      That’s what I would’ve said. But then again, i’m just deplorable, unvaxed trailer trash that speaks in red herrings.

      • OG October 11, 2023 at 3:20 pm #

        But you’re also sweet as molasses, SSL.

        • SoftStarLight October 11, 2023 at 5:06 pm #

          lol 🙂

    • Q. Shtik October 11, 2023 at 4:03 pm #

      Mom & Dad (also mid-70s) – OG

      ===========

      So you’re saying this guy and his parents were approximately the same age give or take?

      • OG October 11, 2023 at 4:47 pm #

        No, Q. My Mom & Dad are roughly the same age as their neighbour (who suddenly died).

        ***
        Side note: My Mom & Dad are close to my age. They were 16 & 17, respectively, when they “had” to get married in 1964 (with me on the way).

  134. anmariwakaranai October 11, 2023 at 4:34 pm #

    Stone garden buddha
    Post rain – sun just coming out
    Robed in black flies

    Seems fitting somehow
    These secular guys matter
    Not a whit when it’s time

    Leaves falling like tears
    Of blood, a day of glory
    Gone Your crown in mud

    • anmariwakaranai October 11, 2023 at 4:50 pm #

      Wisenheimer, jackhammer jolly jumper Jake
      Rolled off a barrel in the belly of a snake
      Snake fell down a mountain
      Off a terribly high cliff

      Cliff collapsed on top of him
      Dislodged his smoking spliff
      Spliff hit the grain
      Dry enough to harvest
      Up went the field
      And with it all the hardest

      Smoke blew up in eddies
      And covered all the land
      Jake got out by twitching
      But he might have burnt his hand

      Snake he broke the fall
      ripped Jake from his belly
      that’s how he survived
      But he came out rather smelly

      • KesaAnna October 11, 2023 at 5:30 pm #

        Who would have thought CFN would have so many good poets ?

      • DaveO907 October 11, 2023 at 5:56 pm #

        Big chuckle here!

  135. Rulo Deschamps October 11, 2023 at 4:57 pm #

    The Mr K of 20 yrs ago perhaps would have placed this escalation (Gaza) in the context of MENA (middle east & north africa) demographic explosion in the “fat years” of cheap energy and cheap mostly imported food, as the region is quite barren.

    I experienced that area for some months 27 yrs ago, and couldn’t explain it well until I read Mr K’s take on it years later. Of course! Where is the cheap energy that makes cheap food possible? There are a few good stashes left in Russia, Venezuela, the ME. But we’re past peak. As concentrated energy gets scarcer, cheap food disappears, and many other necessities too. Israel is rich, so it can produce food in a high tech, high energy intensive system. All around, not so much. But it’s not just food, it’s space, material goods, quality of life, all dismal around Israel. Ultimately, it boils down to millions living cheek to jowl and competing for a dwindling pool of drinking water, sardines and gasoline.

    “Green” energy is a net loser, abiotic oil a joke, and we have many billion sapiens sapiens, all having or craving an iphone, a moped, a house. Not to mention 3 daily meals. Soils are depleted and can only act as sponges to raise the frankenseed in its cocktail of poisons season after season – only if suitable amounts or diesel and gas are present. Organic farming practices have in large part been lost, and anybody who farms organically knows of the toil necessary to produce a few calories using sustainable methods.

    I agree with other posters here in a pessimistic assessment: yes, world conflict seems inevitable. Savagery + technology will result in mass casualties, dead zones, and to “ensure this never happens again” a full Orwellian society will emerge after the trauma. That’s the plan, anyway. We lowly serfs cannot know who pulls the strings, but some of us can reach our own conclusions. Hoping we’re wrong.

    It’s all very sad, but one has to live a day at a time, smile to his wife and children, plant seeds. I’m indifferent to reaching an advanced age, except that I am grateful for every sunrise that affords the chance to atone for past mistakes. If anything, these times should push us towards beauty, serenity and spirituality. What we have now, we will not. Focus on the freedom to ignore TV and watch a tribe of hummingbirds zooming and hovering all over a row of zinnias. Where we’re going, TV will be mandatory and bio-implanted, and there will be no hummingbirds. That’s why I’m not going.

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    • KesaAnna October 11, 2023 at 5:53 pm #

      I doubt I could go even if I wanted to.

    • gustafson.robert.22 October 11, 2023 at 6:56 pm #

      Cheers, Rulo D!

      I’m still holding out for total collapse and mahem… fingers crossed.

      • SoftStarLight October 12, 2023 at 2:39 am #

        mayhem

    • Groundhog October 11, 2023 at 9:09 pm #

      I’m an old fart like most everyone else here – and I ain’t a goin’ either.

    • Ron Anselmo October 11, 2023 at 11:32 pm #

      Your wisdom is missed. You’re beyond an advanced age already – what’s known as an “old soul”, thus your accumulated wisdom.

      Your farm flourishes with the positive energy of yours and that of the Unruly Farmer. Nice to see you back. Head east in the fall, when you can.

      “What we have now, we will not.” ~ Rulo Deschamps

      True. The ability to travel may be something we lose. Visit soon my friend. You never need an invitation. Hope all’s well on the farm.

    • Night Owl October 13, 2023 at 3:05 am #

      Clearly, the only solution is to kill yourself.

  136. KesaAnna October 11, 2023 at 5:29 pm #

    A wildlife anecdote of my own.

    There are these spiders with a very small body , very long hair – thin legs , sorta yellow in color , but near – translucent .

    I went in the bathroom one day a few years ago and there was one of these spiders hanging out in the bath tub.

    My motto is , ” A spider a day keeps the insects away. ”

    And these spiders aren’t much for building really large webs in the wrong place , so who cares ?

    Ten years later there are about 20 of them at any given time in residence in the bathroom .

    They don’t move anywhere else , they stay in the bathroom.

    I’m GUESSING that in the wild they live in wetlands , creek , pond , or riverside , where there is some permanent degree of moisture ?

    To use the sink or the bath tub I turn on the water just a little bit to give them the clue to leave Hoover Dam and climb to higher ground.

    I’m overwhelmed by multi – culturalism and open borders in my own bathroom .

    Oh well.

    I have no doubt that if I was in Elysianfield’s place I would just cross my fingers and hope the Skunk plays responsibly with Chemical Weapons , and doesn’t shit where he eats.

    • KesaAnna October 11, 2023 at 5:41 pm #

      Fuck those ASPCA people though. Get the fuck out.

    • elysianfield October 11, 2023 at 7:03 pm #

      Kesa,
      The skunk finally left, but I fear, when unattended, it downloaded porn onto my computer….

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 11:09 pm #

        No it didn’t download porn onto your computer! Skunks can’t do that! So it was probably you! Or someone– human of course– who has access to your computer!

        • elysianfield October 12, 2023 at 1:09 am #

          Zaz,
          just me and the skunk. Who else would have downloaded several hours of “Naked Farm Animals”?

          The little bastard is gonna pay…..

          • KesaAnna October 12, 2023 at 1:25 am #

            Lol , you’re diabolical !

        • Blackbird October 12, 2023 at 12:45 pm #

          Oh, I see, skunks are just too stupid to use computers. Guess that’s why they got kicked out of the glorious weasel family, Mustelidae into the stinky little ghetto of Memphitidae.

          A wolverine (proud member of family Mustelidae) can surely download porn – and get you in trouble for it, and make you say, “Thanks!”.

          Or maybe skunks just lack the dexterity.

          Cats can use computers to download porn – or so claimed a cat-owner. I remember reading about a case back in the dial-up days. Redefined “kitty porn”.

  137. KesaAnna October 11, 2023 at 5:51 pm #

    Come to think of it , my bathroom used to be spotless. You could eat off the floor .

    But now , to accomodate the spiders , there is years of dust and hard water stains.

    I have my own permanent Halloween display ; The Witches Bathroom .

    I just never thought of it that way before.

    • SoftStarLight October 12, 2023 at 2:38 am #

      You can be clean and still accommodate spiders.

      • Disaffected October 12, 2023 at 8:25 am #

        How about rodents?

        • SoftStarLight October 12, 2023 at 3:37 pm #

          I actually haven’t had a rodent issue thusfar thank heavens!! If I did I would see if someone could trap them and then bring them to a better area for them.

    • Paula D October 12, 2023 at 2:23 pm #

      My spider in the bathroom story.

      I accidentally bumped a lone spider’s web one day.

      By the end of the day, I had 5 spiders perched there, waiting for whatever it was that shook the web so strongly.

      I think it was the Fish Story of All Fish Stories. “You won’t believe how big the one that got away was!”
      And then they all came to try their luck.

  138. beantownbill. October 11, 2023 at 6:12 pm #

    Re no proof covid exists

    In mathematics, things don’t start with a theory or a proof.

    For instance, take an equation, 2+1=1+2. How do we know if this is true? We don’t, really. What we do is define a particular axiom. An axiom is a statement that we assume is true because it makes logical sense. All mathematics start with an axiom. 2+1=1+2 makes a lot of sense, so we assume it’s true.

    From an axiom, we can create a theory that starts with logic and observation and build from there. So an axiom is really a building block for more complicated things. In my little example above, we are saying an equation is a statement that the left side is the same as the right side regardless of the order in each side. We can’t “prove” that so we “assume” it because it seems to work.

    Well, with covid, maybe we can or can’t provide a viral isolate. I don’t know. But we can state with certainty that something exists that caused millions of people to get very sick and millions of people to die in greater numbers than usual. Maybe the numbers aren’t correct, maybe medicine just mis-treated the population but the idea that a lot of people died is a fact.

    That is in a non-mathematic sense, an axiom. Call it covid or whatever you want (most people do call it covid), but to call it a faux pandemic is incorrect.

    • Disaffected October 11, 2023 at 6:38 pm #

      Bill,

      The official numbers, which were totally manipulated and can’t be trusted in the least, indicate that it was just the flu rebranded, which also kills people every year. As to whether the experience was “worse” or not, that can’t be proven either way, but the power of suggestion suggests that it was greatly embellished in people’s minds by the wall to wall panic being spewed by the medical community. I suppose it depends on what your definition of “pandemic” is, but I certainly wouldn’t call it one.

      If you want to believe it was a pandemic, be my guest, but you’ll just be contributing to the panic the next time these duplicitous bastards roll something similar out, which might or might not in fact be the real thing the next time, or far more likely, a simple bio-terror weapon for which only they have the antidote. Either way, I’ll never trust the bastards and their “magical mystery” quaxxines ever again, and that IS a fact.

      • OG October 11, 2023 at 6:52 pm #

        As to whether the experience was “worse” or not, that can’t be proven either way

        It was sure proven to me. I have never experienced anything like it. And this was in April 2023 – long after the wall to wall panic being spewed by the medical community.

        It was definitely something that I have never experienced before. I am a witness to that and that is the truth.

        • Disaffected October 11, 2023 at 7:53 pm #

          I had a bronchial infection bordering on bronchial pneumonia during the Covid festivities. Had it two or three times over the past 25 years or so, but this one was by far the worst, mostly because I stubbornly refused treatment due to the fact that I knew they’d want to brand it Covid and put me through the whole hospital, respirator, etc. ringer. Couldn’t sleep, couldn’t even lay down because my lungs would fill up and I’d begin coughing up spew like never before. So much I’d nearly choke on it. At 65 yo, I finally decided that this was not a good thing to be ignoring.

          But I finally got a video appt with a PA because they wouldn’t see anyone with cold or flu symptoms, asked for and got a script for antibiotics, and had it mostly knocked out three days later, completely gone in a week, with another three weeks to recover from the GI tract insult from the damn oral antibiotics.

          Had I been a tad more suggestible I certainly would have branded it Covid myself and complained long and loud to all who would listen how terrible it was and how I might well have died, both of which were at least possibly true. But the fact was it was just some shit that goes around from time to time to which I’m apparently susceptible. Living at 7,200′ altitude in a bone dry climate probably doesn’t help my case either.

          We live, we learn, and I’m still not afraid of their mystery virus, any more than I was in 2020, when I first said this was all a scam right from the very start, with their fake toilet paper shortages, useless masks, and all the rest of their pseudo shit. Tell people they’re sick loud enough and long enough and before you know it – VOILA! – they’re sick! Mirabile dictu!

          • KesaAnna October 11, 2023 at 8:52 pm #

            Another reason I don’t trust them.

            Outside of surgery or death ,

            just give me a prescription for that behind – the – counter shit.

            It might make you sick , but it won’t get you high anyway.

            And that’s all it was about ;

            A very expensive piece of paper.

            In El Salvador they call it a bribe , or a kickback.

          • OG October 11, 2023 at 9:01 pm #

            Thank you for agreeing with me, Dis. You were sick with something and I was sick with something. To be told from a little girl 7,500 km away that I was ill with nothing really irks me (and the truth).

            Millions of people became severely ill with something. D’uh!

          • Jarek October 11, 2023 at 10:21 pm #

            Anything the Elite create, they too will get. Unless they have mastered the art of vaccines – and never shared that with us.

            The purpose of covid, be it real or imagined, was to get us to take the kill shot.

          • OG October 11, 2023 at 10:41 pm #

            Maybe they had stashed supplies of Ivermectin and HCQ, BK.

            Also, these sick fu(ks sacrifice their own children for the cause, for goodness sakes! Many worked tirelessly for their whole lives knowing that the end-game was well beyond their time. That is, they have different motives and timelines than do us proles.

            ***
            Regardless, you are correct: COVID-19 (unique or rebranded flu) was to jab billions in that key step of their sick plans.

          • GreenAlba October 12, 2023 at 7:00 am #

            “The purpose of covid, be it real or imagined, was to get us to take the kill shot.”

            It was also to get people accustomed to obeying orders and complying with a ‘papers, please’ situation on an everyday basis.

            I called my brother a fascist, in an email, way back, because he told me (as if it were perfectly normal and OK) that his wife had gone to the theatre and taken her covid pass with her, because she knew they asked for one to get in. I said he had accepted a pass that was specifically designed to keep his fellow citizens out of public life.

            When I also told him that, in any case, the jab didn’t stop anyone getting covid or passing it on, and asked why, then, they would carry one, he got cross (he’s normally unusually mild mannered) and wrote ‘I don’t want to have to justify my decisions and I don’t want to be told what to think’.

            Being told what to think is, of course, exactly what he wants, just not by me.

      • gustafson.robert.22 October 11, 2023 at 7:00 pm #

        Hard agree. Well-put.

      • beantownbill. October 12, 2023 at 12:15 pm #

        Dis,

        I agree with never taking the vaxx again. My wife and I both got covid after being vaxxed. We weren’t deathly ill, but we were both out of commission for a month.

        I can’t say that I’ll never get vaxxed for anything ever again, because who knows what disease or illness is coming down the pike. But I will never just go along with the crowd.

      • Night Owl October 13, 2023 at 3:06 am #

        How long until Bill demands you get a sixth booster shot, and then later denies it?

    • Rulo Deschamps October 11, 2023 at 7:28 pm #

      bill,

      “take an equation, 2+1=1+2. How do we know if this is true?”

      It is true as an abstraction, but may or may not be true if time, the missing factor, is included.

      Take a family of 3. 3=2+1=1+2, right?

      But if the order of the figures in the addition imply time (what comes first, what comes second, even by a millisecond) then in this family’s case only 2+1 makes sense: a breeding pair, plus the result of their breeding, makes 3. If you start with 1, you never reach 3 – you’re stuck with a lonely baby. His name is 1+0=1

      • beantownbill. October 12, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

        Rulo,

        Yes, but I was talking about a mathematical abstraction. The math could get pretty complicated if we add time into the equation. For example, if t=100 years, we might not need the 1+2 or 2 + 1 because males might not be necessary for egg fertilization. In that case, 1=2 (the female could give birth w.o. a male).

    • Blackbird October 12, 2023 at 12:36 pm #

      “… to call it a faux pandemic is incorrect.”

      Depends on how you define “pandemic”. The WHO had to redefine “pandemic” to make “Covid” a “pandemic”.

      If “Covid” was just rebranded influenza, pneumonia, motorcycle crashes, etc…

      If “Covid” cases can be confirmed by an inappropriately-used PCR test, that can provide false positives from hundreds of other possible sources…

      If the “vaccines” themselves caused additional illness…

      If the vaxxed passed their genetically-modified illness on to otherwise healthy people…

      If other treatments – or the withholding of appropriate treatments – caused additional illness…

      Then yes, to call “Covid” a “faux pandemic” is correct.

    • Paula D October 12, 2023 at 2:30 pm #

      There was a virus and it was isolated. People who claim otherwise are mistaken, or lying as a psy op.

      Yes, it was fraudently over-diagnosed, and yes, clinics and doctors were paid big bucks to test for covid instead of the flu, causing the flu to “disappear”, and yes, they called all kinds of other deaths “covid deaths”, (because they were paid a bonus to do so), and yes, they changed the definition of “pandemic” (and “vaccine”),and yes, they wanted to implement a totalitarian police state, and force dangerous injections into people.

      All of these things can be true.

      The problem people have is that if they reject the totalitarian police state, they think that they have to reject the fact that the bioweapon exists.

      This is illogical.

      • beantownbill. October 12, 2023 at 2:49 pm #

        Agree with you completely, Paula.

        • Paula D October 12, 2023 at 4:37 pm #

          Thanks, Bill.

      • DaveO907 October 12, 2023 at 3:14 pm #

        And a red herring remains a dead herring.

        • Paula D October 12, 2023 at 4:37 pm #

          Well, I call it a psy op, but…..yeah.

      • Night Owl October 13, 2023 at 3:08 am #

        What does “in silico” mean Paula?

        I know you have no idea what I am talking about.

        You use a search machine of your choice. When you are done, show us the isolate you claim exists.

        Thanks.

  139. The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 7:19 pm #

    Vivek As The Next Obama-Like Prez

    Like Obama, Vivek sort of came out of nowhere and appears fresh, youthful, energetic, intelligent, articulate and is easy on the eyes.

    He also likely appeals to many who’ve come from a more recent line of immigration, including those without legal status who may nevertheless be able to vote.

    As such, he probably also appeals as a glamourboy and tight-leash-worthy front to the sickly-sweet smokey sleaze of the deep dish pizza State backrooms and basements.

    No offense intended.

    As such he’s most likely to be the next prez.

    Now if you’ll excuse me, for some reason, I feel I now gotta go take a shower or at the very least, wash my hands and computer keyboard…

    • Rulo Deschamps October 11, 2023 at 7:50 pm #

      Zazelle,

      “As such, he probably also appeals as a glamourboy and tight-leash-worthy front to the sickly-sweet smokey sleaze of the deep dish pizza State backrooms and basements.”

      Is this a reference to the rumors about abuse and pedophilia in high circles? Kompromat being necessary to keep rulers and plutocrats in check and following orders. By whom? Who knows, who can know. Not me. I don’t know one way or the other, but something stinks.

    • Soul Forensics October 11, 2023 at 7:51 pm #

      Well, Ramaswamy is currently listed at 100/1 to be the next prez, so what are you doing here? Take your worldly belongings to the local loan shark and plunk all your shekels down on the brown man!

      • Soul Forensics October 11, 2023 at 8:14 pm #

        For those interested, not that it matters this early, here’s the current mean odds (7 of the top betting sites) for president:

        “Joe Biden” — 2/1
        Orange Man — 2/1
        Newsom — 12/1
        Obama — 16/1
        RFK Jr. — 20/1
        Haley — 25/1
        DeSantis — 25/1
        Cackles Harris — 31/1
        Ramaswamy — 34/1 (jump on it, Zazelle, odds are plummeting since your post!)

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 8:44 pm #

          I am reminded of yet another expression, something like, “You don’t make any money following the crowd.”

          It’s maybe a little like, say, landing in Greenwich, New York, or Appalachia in general, to start a new life when all the homeless shit has dried up and/or been sucked up new plant growth and/or many places are virtual ghost towns.

          In any case, I stand by my hypothesis or forecast if you will, and besides, high odds sometimes net the biggest wins. =D

          BTW, WRT Obama, you mean Michelle, yes? I mean Barrack can’t run for another term, can he?

          • Soul Forensics October 11, 2023 at 8:55 pm #

            Yes, Michelle. Or “Big Mike”. Of course, it would in effect mean Barry anyway.

        • Blackbird October 12, 2023 at 12:24 pm #

          When I saw a list with numbers, I thought, “Oscar and his GLT again…” But there is a gullibility litmus test at work here too…

          These odds makers obviously seem to believe that we have “free and fair” elections in this country. No shady men-behind-the-curtain pulling the levers of power. The American people will let their will be known, by golly!

          Let us distract you with all these opaque “possibilities” over here, while the clear choice lingers in the shadows, waiting her turn to slouch toward Armageddon and be reborn.

          • beantownbill. October 12, 2023 at 12:32 pm #

            I refuse to believe SHE will ever be elected again, even in a fixed or manipulated election. If I’m wrong, afaic, the world has ended.

          • Rulo Deschamps October 12, 2023 at 2:04 pm #

            Elections themselves are compromised and both sides of the aisle refuse to even look into paper ballots.

            So nothing would surprise me.

          • Blackbird October 12, 2023 at 2:41 pm #

            beans, I have never claimed that the Hildebeast will be elected. In fact, she may be so unelectable that even the DNC’s legendary fraud machine cannot put her in office.

            What I have said is that the Hildebeast will be appointed to fill the VP position vacated by the Ho (“assassinated” by “Russia-loving” white-supremacists”.) Then the Big Guy shuffles off stage left, and voila! President Hildebeast.

          • Paula D October 12, 2023 at 2:51 pm #

            Maybe they are betting on who our ruling overlords will select.

  140. The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 7:26 pm #

    The Occam’s Razor Of The Proxy Pay Pals

    Russia’s Ukraine is America’s Israel is China’s Taiwan.

    In short, ‘Dog Ukraine and we’ll dog Israel. And don’t even think about Taiwan.’

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    • Disaffected October 11, 2023 at 8:06 pm #

      Could well be, but my money’s still on a Judeo-Christian Zionist false flag. Russia’s bleeding the west just fine already in Ukraine. No need for them to widen the festivities just yet. That will come in time either way.

      • Rulo Deschamps October 11, 2023 at 8:14 pm #

        Dis, you’ll lose your $ then. Now, if you want to talk about knowing something was brewing and letting it happen anyway for geopolitical reasons… maybe.

        • Disaffected October 12, 2023 at 8:13 am #

          That’s close enough for my purposes.

        • Disaffected October 12, 2023 at 8:20 am #

          I should add, I define “false flag” broadly. If knowing that you’re purported “enemy” is planning something (like they always are, to hear western intel sources tell it) and you not only do nothing to prevent it, but work subtly behind the scenes to encourage it, that qualifies as a false flag in my book. Classic spook shit. That’s just how they do.

          • Disaffected October 12, 2023 at 8:20 am #

            Now give me my $ back, Rulo! 😉

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 10:06 pm #

        A false flag to what end(s)? Also, Russia’s losing/has lost its people, both on its side and on the Ukraine side.

        But ok, add to the razor, Russia’s ‘NATO’ as all the States that might resent (to put it mildly) America and/or Israel and that also happen to be in the general vicinity of Israel.

        • OG October 11, 2023 at 10:30 pm #

          A false flag to what end(s)?

          War. Genocide. The establishment of Greater Israel.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 10:55 pm #

            That would seem a mass suicide mission and makes much less sense… not that much coming out of The Asylum (AKA, US goveernment) these daze does.

          • Disaffected October 12, 2023 at 8:16 am #

            As I said before, to draw Russia into a greater ME conflagration and further weaken it’s capability to contest Ukraine. And finally, just out of pure spite. The Hegemon is going down and it damn well knows it. It’s actions while it’s in its death throws won’t necessarily be rational at all.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 13, 2023 at 12:06 am #

            More Skin In The Game

            Yes, but I just said upthread, guerrilla and asymmetrical, etc., tactics, that, like the NATO/US proxy stuff up-latitude, won’t likely cost Russia and friends much or as much, just like it doesn’t cost US/NATO as much than if they were to drop the proxy and involve actual US/NATO lives and more. More skin in the game.

            As I also wrote, there are plenty of Russia’s own ‘NATO’ that will be only to happy to help in the investment.

            Anyway, time will likely reveal the strategy(ies) and results, quite quickly, maybe even despite media manipulations.

            As an aside, I was happy to read that they apparently are evacuating many from Israel. I wonder if it’s the same for those in Palestine.

      • Blackbird October 12, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

        That’s where I’m putting my chips too, Dis. Nice to hear people discussing the Gaza attack as what it is: an obvious false flag.

        The over-the-top emotionalism. Beheaded babies (on bayonets in Belgium, on cold hospital floors in Kuwait…). Hot young babes dragged kicking and screaming from the peace and love party, stripped naked, chained to the back of pick-up trucks, and paraded through the streets of Gaza as trophies of war. And we all know what is going to happen to those girls as soon as the trucks come to a stop… Of course the nice Muslims in places like Rotherham would never deflower our precious little white girls, but those evil Muslims surrounding Israel, well, they’re something else entirely.

        We’re supposed to believe that this raid was conducted on behalf of the people of Gaza. Right. What do they gain? Other than obvious brutal retaliation.

        We’re supposed to believe that if Israel doesn’t turn Gaza into a black glass dance floor, Muzzies will keep charging across the border to kill babies and kidnap young women for use as sex slaves. Israel has been far too kind to these subhumans for far too long!

        Because it is Israel we can’t question the official narrative, lest we be called antisemites or Nazis. A few hundred Israelis killed in a raid is a massacre – no, a genocide. While thousands of Palestinians killed in Gaza is… An inconvenience? Inconvenient that some are still are alive… Only two million more to go (median age 18) – you can do it Israel! (And it won’t be “genocide”, it will be “self-defense”.)

        But why? An excuse to finally clear the trash out of Gaza? Probably. You can hear cheerleaders for this course of action all over the MSM, and even here on this otherwise normally sensible board. A wider mideast war against Iran and its “proxies”? Why not? The US hasn’t been carrying this water for Israel, as it should. An end to Benny Yahoo’s political problems? All of the above! And more…

        Zaz, I’d have to disagree with the phrase “America’s Israel”. It’s Israel that owns America, not the other way around.

        • beantownbill. October 12, 2023 at 12:41 pm #

          Yeah, sure BB. You know what’s really going on because you have “thought it out” and it’s obvious it was a ff. Or maybe you were in some Israeli war room and heard the ff discussion develop.

          Yeah, there’s a lot of nefarious things going on in the world behind-the-scenes, but everything isn’t a ff just because you’re cynical (I’m cynical, too). This is just your opinion, that’s all.

          • Blackbird October 12, 2023 at 7:50 pm #

            Yes beans, it’s just my opinion. That’s all I have. That’s all any of us have.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 13, 2023 at 12:21 am #

            If we get a proxy sort of thing happening in and around Israel, we’ll likely know almost right away.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle October 13, 2023 at 12:28 am #

            @beantownbill:

            False flag theories are all fine and nice but kind of mickey mouse if that’s all one can think of.

        • Rulo Deschamps October 12, 2023 at 1:56 pm #

          Bird,

          I hear you. Truth, first casualty of war etc. Lots of propaganda.

          At the same time, lots of butchering. That’s a fact. And when oh when did Hamas claim to work towards what rationally is the choice of many Gazans: peace, stability, better schools, better everything, above all good jobs, even in Israel.

          Hamas doesn’t give a fig about all that. That will be extra gravy after the Jews are obliterated. Hamas has historically shot from the cover of civilians, who then get killed by Israel. Shooting from an empty lot instead of a school surely would prevent unnecessary killing. But they need and want the unnecessary killing, it attracts funding, support, righteous rage, allies.

          Israel completely withdrew from Gaza years ago. “There, it’s yours, take it” – they even left the massive investment in greenhouses and other advanced agriculture standing and in working order, so that they would be a source of income for the new owners.

          First thing Hamas did was demolish the greenhouses.

          There, that’s it in a nutshell.

          The propaganda is sickening and the whole thing has an awful escalation potential. False flag? I don’t think so. Israel has a very real possibility to lose this war, if another front opens in the north. Then what? Nukes?

          We’re watching a real clusterfuck unfold.

          • Paula D October 12, 2023 at 2:57 pm #

            I agree with you, Rulo, except that I think this was a false flag.

            I still have no idea what the plan is. At first I thought it was to start a war with Iran, but I see they are backing off that propaganda.

            And it clearly was not Israel’s idea to start a war with Iran. They were the first to put the kibosh on that narrative.

          • Ron Anselmo October 12, 2023 at 4:12 pm #

            Covid response demonstrated a coordinated global response.

            Implementation of CBDC will also require globally coordinated Central Banks.

            Hard to imagine piecemeal implementation of CBDC. In my opinion – impossible to phase in. Consider problem-reaction solution.

            A false flag that purposely smolders, catches fire and goes sideways, could potentially start WW3 – the problem.

            The reaction? As always, something must be done (to avert or contain WW3)!

            The solution, right the brink, as all players lock & load – CBDC rolled out globally, concurrently.

            Interesting that while all eyes and conversation are on ME, which may be a head fake, JPMC just went live with their platform (beta since 2022) that digitalizes hard assets for transactions.

            Falls right in line with The Great Taking, by David Rogers Webb – a time-sensitive read.

            In other words, CBDC issued, after taking all collateral secured by debt, MBS, SLABS, cars and real estate, and all cash, stocks, bonds & securities held in street name.

            The end result of CBDC and the coming “Taking” will be – we will certainly own nothing, but we won’t be happy, and we’ll do as we’re told or go hungry.

          • Paula D October 12, 2023 at 4:43 pm #

            I agree that they will try anything to roll out CBDC, Ron, but I don’t see the narrative here.

            Stop a war by accepting CBDC? Where’s the connection?

            I find it more likely that a war could be a way of cancelling the quadrillion dollar debts they have run up in the derivatives casino.

            That might be their alternative Great Reset. Start a war, wipe out the debts along with a bunch of people, then put the survivors to work in the fields. Skip the whole digital dole.

          • Ron Anselmo October 12, 2023 at 10:51 pm #

            Paula – I don’t think people understand the implications of adopting CBDC. They think in terms of electronic or non-cash transactions. I already have direct deposit, use credit cards and use cash apps – so what if we go cashless, what’s the big deal? Digitalization of hard assets is the coup de gras.

            The measure of control (the design intent) and abuse is staggering. Bail-ins instead of bailouts, forced spending – expiry “credits” when the economy needs juiced – frozen assets for misbehavior, and worst of all, digitalized hard assets. Complete control.

            I don’t understand, after people watched the Canadian Truckers get shut down. First their assets were frozen, next anyone who assisted, bringing food, firewood and other essentials had their assets frozen, then when a GoFundMe was set up for the truckers, that money was taken.

            To your point though – not “stopping a war by accepting CBDC”, but by being “sold” on accepting CBDC to stop a war in progress or funding or helping fund a Global GoFundMe, if you will, to Build Back Better. We’re all in this together.

            Look how easily we were sold on “safe & effective” vaccines. The timing has to be right though. If globally, people are at a point of fear and hysteria, they can be sold most anything. I say the threat of a complete global conflagration, sells CBDC for all. Maybe they roll it out at halftime of WW3.

            Ordo ab chao. Global order, in one fell swoop.

            All just my two cents and that’s all it’s worth.

          • Night Owl October 13, 2023 at 3:14 am #

            Yes, Ron.

            As GA, mentioned above, it is the “polycrisis” the Schwabster started talking about some time ago.

            They are guiding us down a path. Increasing levels of chaos for an “angrier world.”

            There will be events that occur that were not specifically planned, but that is part of how this works, those events are given a place in the narrative which will be repeated until we arrive at the final destination of digital enslavement, which will allow population reduction with no mess, and a controlled society and massive transfer of most of the remaining wealth in the world.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 13, 2023 at 12:17 am #

          We’ll see what happens, but if it’s a false flag, it is a very dangerous and insane one such as in the contexts that I have outlined.
          Makes little sense actually, except in the context of insanity.

          Black glass dance floor? I doubt the State neighbors will stand for that and hope I am right.

          Also, just because we get a lot of media manipulation is not to necessarily make it most likely a false flag. Media manipulation happens regardless.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 13, 2023 at 12:23 am #

          Zaz, I’d have to disagree with the phrase ‘America’s Israel’. It’s Israel that owns America, not the other way around.” ~ Blackbird

          Supports my point even better actually.

  141. The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 7:41 pm #

    “My side is for Israelis as they are my people.”

    “I’m a born and bred American citizen. While I have a great emotional attachment to Israel, America comes first.” ~ beantownbill

    beantownbill, unless it’s one giant magic-trick by a supreme being, it’s no secret that many, if not most of the people in Ukraine and Russia are related, are ‘brothers’ and ‘sisters’ and that they are and have been getting slaughtered and/or displaced, their lives completely upturned.

    So what’s Russia to do, such as if many in Israel have relations– brothers and sisters, mothers and fathers– in the USA and vice-versa?

    This is to say nothing of the countries in Israel’s surrounds that have seen America’s geopolitical military industrial complex come and go.

    We may very see that, see what Russia’s to do, up close, so to speak, and personal.

    My Country

    youtu.be/ks7RrRFd-20?si=asrzUkZCazwccMTo

    • Disaffected October 11, 2023 at 8:01 pm #

      Loved “The Oil” and the tall man back in the day. They were political when being political was no longer fashionable.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 8:33 pm #

        Turncoat Fashion?

        “Fashion exists to go out of fashion.” ~ unknown

        “What’s old is new again.” ~ unknown

        And then there’s Garret getting into politics not long after that song and some then calling him a turncoat.

        Maybe, I don’t know. But anyway…

        —-

        “A turncoat is a person who shifts allegiance from one loyalty or ideal to another, betraying or deserting an original cause by switching to the opposing side or party. In political and social history, this is distinct from being a traitor, as the switch mostly takes place under the following circumstances:

        • In groups, often driven by one or more leaders.
        • When the goal that formerly motivated and benefited the person becomes (or is perceived as having become) either no longer feasible or too costly even if success is achieved.” ~ Wikipedia

    • KesaAnna October 11, 2023 at 8:26 pm #

      In the comments of the song someone said there are two kinds of evil people ; people who do evil shit , and people who see and do nothing about it.

      Well ……..I rather think that is merely the perecentage of the population that is breathing.

      You might not see any connection ,

      but one thing that used to put me off about Joan of Arc was that , near as I can tell , the 100 Years War wasn’t really about English versus French. The concept of nation state at the time was vague at best.

      It was really a dynastic dispute between two royal houses — that both spoke French — over some real estate.

      I wondered why the Master of the Universe would care about such petty shit.

      Well , the peasants were suffering terribly on account of the war , what ever they called themselves.

      It would seem that because the Plantagenet’s were on an island at a remove , so logistically , they were unlikely to prevail anyway , and you could say they already had their piece of the pie anyway.

      Or , MAYBE , Gods agenda had absolutely nothing to do with the war , and Joan was told merely what would make sense to her ?

      Lol , only discovered this song a few days ago.

      Now it is my East German Anthem.

      In English.

      Parental discretion is advised !

      youtube.com/watch?v=hWqdZi1k3gE

      “Palestine is not Ukraine. If America intervenes directly, all American locations in the region will become legitimate targets of the resistance axis and will face our attacks. And on this day there will be no red line left.” —Hezbollah Official Statement ”

      Made my heart flutter a bit.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 10:23 pm #

        ‘The Resistance Axis’

        American locations in the region will become legitimate targets of the resistance axis and will face our attacks.” ~ Hezbollah Official Statement, via KesaAnna

        That’s Russia’s ‘NATO’.

        Like that Titan sub sinking alongside the Titanic, Israel might see another holocaust, maybe unless gangsta Bibi and fellow gangstas somehow get bounced.

  142. BackRowHeckler October 11, 2023 at 9:23 pm #

    What happened to the PLO? Are they still “a thing”? At one time the PLO loomed large. I know Arafat bit the dust awhile ago; the main thing I remember about him is one of his wives lived in a $20,000 per month apartment in Paris. Once in awhile Arafat would visit and he’d be seen in a cafe in Montparnasse, wearing Gucci shoes & western casual dress, but with the Arab scarf & sunglasses. You know Hamas is badass because in his last years Arafat stated he wanted nothing to do with “those crazy mothrf#kjrs.” At the end Arafat was coming around to the idea of some sort of reapproachment with Israel. He was like a senior mafia chief in NYC who just wants to do business on the down low –keep things calm, keep the money rolling in — but in his crew, who he can’t control, are a bunch of new generation killers out to make names for themselves.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 11, 2023 at 11:02 pm #

      Again, you are sitting on the biggest library in the world. Granted, a lot of it is hardly what one might consider classical library material (and so some judicious sifting is often required), but a lot of it is. Here’s an extremely cursory glance:

      “Today, the PLO continues to exist; however, most of its leaders have now become top Fatah officials in the Palestinian Authority. Fatah-related militia groups, such as the Tanzim, Force 17 and the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigade played a leading role in Palestinian violence during the Second Intifada, including suicide terrorist attacks, ambushes, and shootings of Israeli vehicles and facilities.

      With the death of Arafat in November 2004, Mahmoud Abbas, a long-time secretary general of the PLO, became the new Chairman of the PLO and was subsequently elected President of the Palestinian Authority.” ~ ADL.org (2016)

      • BackRowHeckler October 12, 2023 at 7:41 am #

        Ok I looked up Arafat. Net worth at the time of death: $1.5 billion. Like with Big Paul Castalino, Capo de capo of the Gambino Crime Family, except operating in a world stage. Arafat’s grifts were international in character and they paid well.

        • Paula D October 12, 2023 at 7:26 pm #

          Quite a grifter, for sure. Look out, it offends Jarek when you point that out.

        • RUfuckinKidding? October 12, 2023 at 8:41 pm #

          Right…and he lived a glaringly lavish, jet-setting lifestyle, right? Hanging with models & billionaires in the Med & the Caribbean, with day trips to Epstein Island on the side, no doubt…right.

          The idea of differentiating between the leader’s personal funds and the public funds that he manages doesn’t run very deep in the local Arab tradition. It was considered pretty normal that Arafat, as the head honcho, took the money that came in for the Palestinian Authority and doled it out at his own discretion. With high office comes the expectation of supporting oneself in style and the obligation to spend money answering the needs of one’s people. Or at least of one’s supporters.

          Arafat used the money cannily to stay in power, and to insure himself in case one day he lost power. He didn’t live in luxury. All he asked was a bit of bread and cheese and occasionally a little boy to rape. You can think of him as resembling V.M. Varga, the villain on the Fargo TV series, who is filthy rich but is afraid of the vulnerability that comes with looking and acting rich.

        • Ron Anselmo October 13, 2023 at 12:39 am #

          Castellano. Sorry BRH, don’t mean to be a prick, the Sicilian in me couldn’t let it go.

    • Paula D October 12, 2023 at 3:04 pm #

      Israel and the US supported Hamas as an antidote to the PLA. They are an offshoot of the Muslim Brotherhood, which is a violent organization supported by the Brits and the USA.

      Is Hamas still working for the US? I don’t know, but I do know that they sent fighters to Syria to help ISIS (another US creation) to terrorize the people of Syria in the attempt to overthrow the secular government of Assad and put in more Muslim fundamentalists.

      • Paula D October 12, 2023 at 3:04 pm #

        Sorry, PLO, not PLA. I saw it after I hit Enter. Doh.

        • RUfuckinKidding? October 12, 2023 at 8:36 pm #

          Me, I’m a supporter of the PFJ (but certainly NOT of JPF!)

      • DaveO907 October 12, 2023 at 3:31 pm #

        And the Muslim B-Hood was founded in 1928 by an admirer of Adolf’s work on the Continent. Worked for the Nazis throughout the thirties and throughout the war. No surprise as did certain Brits and our own homegrown aristocracy, even if they happened to be working for the OSS at the same time.

        Of course it was MI-6 that built both the OSS and CIA—oh-so-coincidentally working out of Rockefeller Center for the duration of WW II with luminaries like Roald Dahl, Ian Fleming, and “A Man Called Intrepid” himself, Canadian William Stephenson. (How and why the Brits still direct many things the U.S. does from the shadows to this very day.)

        And Osama bin Laden was educated by a professor closely associated—indeed one a member of—the Muslim Brotherhood’s first generation.

        “Sniff sniff…” There seems to be a persistent pattern here. But after all, it is a small world…

        • DaveO907 October 12, 2023 at 3:37 pm #

          I neglected to mention how MB founder Hassan al Banna kept up a correspondence with Mr Schicklgruber-Hitler too.

      • GreenAlba October 12, 2023 at 5:52 pm #

        “I do know that they sent fighters to Syria to help ISIS (another US creation) to terrorize the people of Syria in the attempt to overthrow the secular government of Assad and put in more Muslim fundamentalists.”

        The US is still occupying part of Syria, supporting ISIS, while stealing Syrian oil and wheat. Vanessa Bealy (who lives in Damascus) reports on this regularly.

        • Paula D October 12, 2023 at 7:46 pm #

          Indeed. It takes a lot of nerve to scream about national sovereignty and crossing borders in Ukraine, while simultaneously occupying Syria and stealing their oil and wheat.

          It helps to control the Mighty Wurlitzer of propaganda.

        • GreenAlba October 13, 2023 at 6:46 am #

          correction: Beeley, not Bealy!

  143. Target_on_my_Back October 11, 2023 at 9:46 pm #

    I see a lot of comments based on a lot of iffy premises based on what might just as easily be disinformation as information. I think it would behoove us to remember that “The first casualty of war is truth.” The saying has been attributed to a handful of different people from Ancient Greece to c. WWI, but its truth is self-evident.

    • Jarek October 11, 2023 at 10:23 pm #

      Yes, the war news is very slanted. It’s clear that the media is owned by the Chinese and/or Arab Nazis.

  144. OG October 11, 2023 at 11:27 pm #

    Have you ever dropped acid? Have you ever eaten magic mushrooms?

    In many respects, the “trips” are quite similar. But magic mushrooms grow naturally while LSD is made in a lab. The big difference that we always noticed was that acid “feels chemical.” It was hard to describe beyond that but if you have done both, you probably know what I mean.

    My illness in April 2023 “felt chemical.” That is the best way that I can describe that bout versus every other cold/flu that I’ve ever had in 58 years on this planet. Not only was it way longer in duration, it “felt chemical.”

    • Jarek October 12, 2023 at 12:53 am #

      Anglin has been down with something very strange:

      Over the weekend, I suffered a physical and mental breakdown of unknown origin. The professionals (new age eastern medicine types – I don’t trust real doctors) blamed dehydration, mineral deficiency, and environmental toxins.

      What is clear is that this was a harrowing journey and a psychedelic thrill-ride, where I was forced to question my most fundamental assumptions about the nature of reality.

      I do not know which parts of this were psychical and which were psychological. I did not consume any mind-altering drugs during this period (not that I would have, it just seems important to note, given that “ongoing, confusing hallucinations” were a definitive part of the experience), and had stopped alcohol and caffeine by late Saturday.

      I have NOT recovered from this state of deep personal illness. I am now getting to the point where I can look at a screen and maintain focus, but I am still completely incapable of distinguishing reality from nightmare.

      I assume this experience was some type of gift/punishment from God. It’s only now that I’m really able to start to think clearly, so it’s now that I’ll start to break down what has occurred. The most obvious thing about any of this, which I just realized right now, is that I don’t have a headache and I have not eaten in 6 days. The pounding headache was a constant since Saturday, and probably because of the headache, I was unable to eat. Now that the headache is gone, it may well be that I will be able to start eating again and just feel totally normal.

      My carpal tunnel is not good.

      Most likely, this was a classic “nervous breakdown” type event, or perhaps a classic “seasonal illness” event.

      (I will say that if this is what all of those faggots were whining about thinking was going to happen to them, then I for the first time have some understanding of why they would want a vaccine. But this was not respiratory at all, and I don’t think anyone described the flu virus as “an endless 3D cinematic death experience on repeat, forever.”)

      It’s strange that this happened at the same time World War III began, but okay. I believe I’ve reached some sort of solution to the conundrum of “remaining truthful while also not being totally negative” – so cash me outside for that (it’s probably easier not to be totally negative when the whole world is attacking the Jews from every angle).

      I’m thankful (and a bit surprised) to be alive, and I thank the dear reader for tolerating my delinquency.

      I can’t promise that everything will be on the up-and-up by tomorrow, but more or less, I don’t see a reason why it shouldn’t be.

      One love.

      Peace.

      • OG October 12, 2023 at 1:12 am #

        I assume this experience was some type of gift/punishment from God.

        Those were my thoughts, exactly.

        ***
        I drank three cups of coffee per day (at least) prior to April 2023. I have not had a sip since.

      • KesaAnna October 12, 2023 at 1:13 am #

        I don’t know who Anglin is .

        The sign off caught my attention.

        You have to wear a helmet. OK ,

        so I bought a reproduction M – 34 WW II German Helmet for my motor scooter .

        I put peace signs , ONE LOVE stickers , and Pink Starbucks Coffee logo stickers on it.

        So people wouldn’t know what the fuck was up.

        Mushrooms or Acid ?

        Hell no.

        Believe it or not I tried Marijuana after ten years personal observation of its effects on other Guinea Pigs.

        Just a strong stimulant / sedative / aphrodisiac in my opinion.

        • KesaAnna October 12, 2023 at 1:31 am #

          The last time I smoked those left – handed cigarettes was two decades ago , though.

          Too much trouble , and too expensive.

        • SoftStarLight October 12, 2023 at 3:03 am #

          Hallucinatory experiences can eventuate from chronic sleep deprivation and generalized anxiety. Typically there is a nutritional component too, especially if actual physical illness or mental distress or illness are not involved. A period of rest and relaxation will help with recuperation. Drink lots of water.

        • malthuss October 12, 2023 at 7:27 pm #

          He blogs. He is a White power guy.

      • JohnAZ October 12, 2023 at 10:37 am #

        One of the few side effects that have been attributed to covid, specifically is its ability to affect the nervous system, especially the brain, as it crosses the blood-brain barrier. I would count the jab as dangerous in this respect as we still do not know if it is the whole virus or the s protein that triggers the over reactive immune response. The ACE2 receptor, the target of the s protein, is everywhere, so inflammation problems could poke up anywhere. The fact that the target is much, much more widespread than a flu is what separates the two.

        Keep an eye out for any nervous sequelae like spasms or tics. Bell’s Palsy is a consequence of the disease, it has been shown. It is important to catch it early,if it shows up.

        That being said, I hope you fully recover from WII and soon.

        • JohnAZ October 12, 2023 at 10:42 am #

          My own experience

          I got vertigo, blurry vision and lassitude from my bout with WII last November. It started about a month after.

          The weirdest thing, I got a cold, sinusitis type with post nasal stuff, which I get once a season. No biggie.

          The vertigo, vision effect and Lassitude were gone as soon as the cold started. When I told my PCP about it, he just blinked.

    • RD3 October 12, 2023 at 9:07 am #

      OG,

      Thank you for putting my experience into words. I could not articulate my bout of the Chinese/Fauci flu until now.

      I have some experience with agricultural pesticides and a couple of times was hit with a cloud of them when the wind shifted. For a couple days after I had an uncontrollably-runny nose, headache and bitter taste at the back of my throat. Another time, a neighbor was burning Wolmanized wood and I couldn’t get away from the fumes. The same aftermath followed. Those reactions are most similar to what I experienced as a result of the Chinese/Fauci flu. It felt chemical.

    • elysianfield October 12, 2023 at 11:47 am #

      ” But magic mushrooms grow naturally But magic mushrooms grow naturally ”

      OG,
      As do castor beans.

      • stelmosfire October 12, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

        ” But magic mushrooms grow naturally”

        It can also grow unnaturally in my root cellar. A couple days ago I signed a petition to get ‘shrooms legal in my state. First the evil weed, now mushrooms. What’s next? Corn liquor at home? I got it covered with grapes. Grappa!!

        • Rulo Deschamps October 12, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

          Bravo Elmo! Grappa is a noble liquor. As is brandy, too. Both great for a nightcap on those frozen nights coming around soon. A grappa, an espresso, warm socks, logs crackling in the wood stove, a good book…

    • DaveO907 October 12, 2023 at 2:01 pm #

      If I were to describe it, your description of “felt chemical’ would pretty much suffice.

      But I think I would add ‘extremely violent,’ ‘invaded’ in the sense of having been injected with great force. A rapid, high-pressure poisonous infusion.

      Nothing ever like it, and in my mid-70s, I’ve ‘seen’ some things.

  145. KesaAnna October 12, 2023 at 2:58 am #

    ” The enemies of Israel are thereby no different from BLM and the rest of the Cancel Culture Cult here in the US; casting blame on others instead of recognizing missed opportunities due to their own poor choices. ”

    Sure.

    If anyone had asked me , ” Wanna try the Christian Kingdoms of Jerusalem and Antioch Part II ? ”

    I would have said , ” Fuck no. Are you stupid ? ”

    In any case , I wasn’t even around in 1948.

    MY poor choices ??

    Actually , you sound just like BLM . Slavery was my fault , and I’m not even White.

    As for enemies ,

    that’s just a label to make me feel good about myself.

    With friends like you people have , you scarcely need enemies.

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  146. messianicdruid October 12, 2023 at 7:59 am #

    “No doubt the truth will come out eventually. But as one official said, “We will fight now and investigate later.” That is probably the only practical solution, but at the same time it means that the soldiers are fighting somewhat blindly for a cause that is hidden from them. This happens in virtually every war around the world, where the people are given reasons for war that are not the real reasons.”

    godskingdom.org/blog/2023/10/consequences-of-the-israeli-hamas-war/

    Ready, FIRE, aim!

  147. Disaffected October 12, 2023 at 8:40 am #

    And now we see the larger play begin to emerge right on time:

    ISRAEL-HAMAS WAR

    Biden’s choice: Let Iranian oil flow or watch prices rise

    “Without oil, they have no money,” Sen. Lindsey Graham said of the Iranians. “Without money, terrorism loses its biggest benefactor.”

    Hamas’ attack on Israel is bringing pressure on President Joe Biden to clamp down on Iranian oil exports — even at the risk of provoking a politically damaging spike in world oil prices.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/10/12/biden-iran-oil-gas-prices-00120924

    Russia, “bogged down” in Ukraine, now faces the choice of committing resources to Iran and other ME interests, while maintaining the fight closer to home. China must be made to pay for defying the “all-knowing, all-powerful” hegemon as well!

    Rulo, I’m gonna need that $ back please!

    • Rulo Deschamps October 12, 2023 at 1:30 pm #

      I dunno, Dis. If and when we get some perspective, we can discuss it. For what it’s worth, the IDF is now saying “mistakes were made” and so on.

      Think about this: Israel as a nation doesn’t benefit. With every able body citizen, or almost, fighting, who will run companies, plant crops and so on? The economy will suffer. Int’l condemnation will once again make itself heard as civilian casualties will be inevitable. Also, clearing heavily tunneled, urban Gaza of Hamas will lose Israel many troops.

      The hawkish factions benefit, as well as their own MIC and that of the US.

      Perhaps Hamas is just feeling strong and cocky. Perhaps their leaders looked at the heavily destabilized world picture and decided to make a move – no false flag required. Hezbollah has their back and can open a second front – and those guys are way more numerous and better armed, with more territory to launch from. Iran has their back.

      It was said here: a nudge here, a double-dare-you there, a stupid mosque kerfuffle, an important anniversary of a foundational war coming, and those guys saw their opening.

      We don’t know, and only time will tell. Or not. We still don’t know for sure what happened to the “Maine” or in Tonkin. Smoke and mirrors.

      • OG October 12, 2023 at 2:38 pm #

        Hahaha! That’s weird because usually you write so intelligently, Rulo.

        Was it Hamas, Hezbollah or both that moved the Peace & Music festival into an unsecured venue in the direct path merely two days beforehand?

        Did Iran reassign all those IDF border guards from the wrong place at the wrong time?

        Did Syria start demolishing buildings in Gaza City within hours?

        Did Russia produce all sorts of fake news about ‘atrocities’ that, hours later, we now know never happened?

        “There were mistakes made,” my butt! Iron Dome can stop missiles but it can’t stop paragliders?

        “There were mistakes made.” C’mon, people. Surely you are better than that.

        How many times will our loveable knuckleheads bumble into exactly what they desire before your head finally clicks?

        What is your GLT score, Rulo?

        ***
        For each of these 10 big historical events, score a 1 if you believe that it was a black op and a 0 if you believe the official story.

        GLT:
        JFK ~ 1963
        USS Liberty ~ 1967
        MLK ~ 1968
        RFK ~ 1968
        OKC ~ 1995
        9/11 ~ 2001
        ’08 Crash/Housing Bubble/Hank-Paulson Treasury Looting ~ 2008
        Boston Marathon ~ 2013
        Vegas Turkey-Shoot ~ 2017
        Nashville Christmas ~ 2021

        What is your score?

        • RUfuckinKidding? October 12, 2023 at 8:25 pm #

          This is just stupid, OG. Give it a rest. As far as I can tell, you should EXPECT one of only two possible scores – 10 or 0.

          • OG October 13, 2023 at 12:15 am #

            It is not stupid, RUFK. It is a scientific Sociology test. It is simple, it takes about 30 seconds to complete and reduces much information about the subject down to a simple integer. It is brilliant.

            ***
            As for the results, it is interesting that you have guessed my theory of this scientific test’s expected results. I have theorized that the distribution will be almost exclusively 0s and 1s and 9s and 10s (which is pretty much what you are also theorizing).

            So, with a simple test, we can easily separate the men from the boys.

            ***
            Separating the man-children from the real men might seem ‘unfair’ in this woke world but, it is about to become vital as we are thrust into navigating Shit Creek without a paddle.

            See, us real men have run out of time trying to wake you man-children up already. This isn’t Dems vs. GOP where every opinion is valid. These particular black ops have been going on for the past 60 years and have completely shaped our lives. Now it’s time to shit or get off the pot because we can’t afford you 0s and 1s costing society anymore. The FEMA camps are built.

      • Disaffected October 12, 2023 at 4:01 pm #

        Think about this: Israel as a nation doesn’t benefit. The hawkish factions benefit, as well as their own MIC and that of the US.

        You said it right there, Rulo. Judeo-Christian Zionism is first and foremost a globalist project and absolutely despises nationalism and nationalists.

    • gustafson.robert.22 October 12, 2023 at 2:00 pm #

      “We should consider the possibility of a false flag,”

      is often so much better than,

      “It’s a false flag fo sho.”

      • Rulo Deschamps October 12, 2023 at 2:11 pm #

        gus, exactly right. When you think of it, we know, really “know” very little in this life.

        • OG October 12, 2023 at 2:41 pm #

          I look forward to your GLT score, Rulo.

          • Rulo Deschamps October 12, 2023 at 2:50 pm #

            I’m not gullible. I’m skeptical. Above all, I’m humble: I admit I don’t know. And you don’t know either. Qanon and the white hats and all that stuff you read doesn’t prove a damn thing.

            Of your random list, you know very well I smell rotten fish in several items. I’m not about to participate in your little experiment, though.

            I don’t buy the official story. But I can’t be certain either of what the real story is, what parts are fiction, what parts true, what parts propaganda.

            I don’t know. And you don’t know either, despite this strange turn to turn into the forum judge that passes verdict on how gullible others are.

          • OG October 12, 2023 at 3:11 pm #

            I was a 10 long before I ever even heard of White Hats (in this sense), Rulo.

            I understand. We have 4×10 and 1×1 and many, many CFN posters who can’t believe that I’ve fabricated a simple 30-second Sociology test which reveals so very much (and reduced to a simple integer) about how hip the subject is to the man’s jive.

            Many men with little tiny GLTs are bashful. We get it. I remember the little guys when our Grade 9 Phys Ed teacher, Mr Kuzbick, made us all shower together in 1979. I felt bad for them while us football players joked and snapped towels.

      • OG October 12, 2023 at 2:41 pm #

        Absolutely, Gus. Be of water that is neither hot nor cold. Be spat from His mouth on account of your tepidness. Sit on the fence for longer than Pfizer tried to legally bury their mass-murder documents like you do with JFK.

        Or use your brain and grow a pair.

      • Jarek October 12, 2023 at 2:59 pm #

        And sometimes you have to go with that gut feeling because it all you gut.

        Those who wait for absolute certainty will do nothing, ever.

        As Aristotle said, Do not demand from a subject for clarity than it affords. Politics is not mathematics. You just not going to have that level of certainty.

        • Jarek October 12, 2023 at 3:20 pm #

          correction: Do not demand from a subject more clarity than it affords.

      • TPTB-USA October 12, 2023 at 5:15 pm #

        If the various actions/policies of an administrations are inconsistent, doesn’t the population have a right to demand an explanation?

        The problem being, that an explanation from “Joe Biden” would amount to a confession of treason, for not representing the citizens, and “I will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”.

    • Paula D October 12, 2023 at 3:16 pm #

      Hmm, Dis, I thought they had dropped the whole “Iran dunnit” line.

      Of course, Lindsey Graham is a batshit crazy war monger who just wants to Kill! Kill! Kill!, like Arlo Guthrie in Alice’s Restaurant.

      But why would Politico be quoting him?

      I still don’t think that Shiite Iran, enemy of the Muslim Brotherhood, would support Hamas, except verbally, since all the Middle Eastern countries have to pretend to care about the Palestinians.

      But if the US steals more Iranian oil tankers, I think it will be on.

      Iran has already retaliated for past piracy of their oil by the US.

      High oil prices will be the least of our worries if the Graham/Nuland/ Blinken idiots manage to start WW3 in the Persian Gulf, now that they have failed to start it on Russia’s borders.

      • Disaffected October 12, 2023 at 4:13 pm #

        I think it’s larger than “Iran dunnit,” Paula. “Iran sponsored it,” is quite enough, and that assertion has never, and likely will never, go out of style among the DC Zionists. Iran has always been the fly in the ointment in the ME, and the hegemon viscerally HATES those who defy their rules and set the example for others to do the same.

        But for the hegemon, widening the wars is the only tool left in the toolkit, realizing that their goal is not so much to win, which is now almost certainly no longer possible, but to make damn sure that all their enemies lose even more, then fall back and hope to win the long game in the aftermath. Sure, it’s a classic ‘Hail Mary’ play, but when that’s all you’ve got left and time’s running out on your empire, you cross yourself and run it anyway.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle October 13, 2023 at 2:01 am #

          Disaffected, two (or more) can play the same game as your hegemon. And maybe play it better or shift it somehow. Reinvent the rules and the like.

          If Israel truly suffered a loss of the numbers reported, then if it’s a false flag, Israel appears to have been thrown under the bus, if not wholly, then at least a leg or foot.

          But does that make sense if, as Blackbird suggests/corrects me upthread, that ‘Israel owns America’?

          • Disaffected October 13, 2023 at 8:46 am #

            I would suggest that the ownership question is mutual, and that the true owner is a third party: the globalist Judeo-Christian Anglo Zionist movement. They own the entire west and don’t formally recognize (at their level, at least) national governments at all. National governments ae merely a means to an end for these people. A temporary construct on the way to the ultimate goal: One World Government, aka the New World Order.

  148. DaveO907 October 12, 2023 at 9:12 am #

    Whatever you think you know about the situation in Israel right now, get ready to go long and go deep with Alistair Crooke, a guy who’s “been there, done that” like few others.

    Retired Brit diplomat, and most definitely not a slave nor purveyor of the perfidies of Albion.

    This is stunning for its authoritative and deeply nuanced take on “The Rest of the Story.”

    Included as well in the second half are truths about Ukraine, including swerves into history that span many hundreds of years, all of it constituting imnsho, simply stellar journalism.

    httpx://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l06GBFKqQMY

    • OG October 12, 2023 at 10:40 am #

      The Dollar Vigilante (Jeff Berwick) explains how we can already know that it was all a black op:

      bitchuteDOTcom/video/Qiy1GjRY5bwI/

      • Disaffected October 12, 2023 at 11:42 am #

        This guy nails it, as usual.

        • Disaffected October 12, 2023 at 3:58 pm #

          Let me post a proper link:

          https://www.bitchute.com/video/Qiy1GjRY5bwI/

          • OG October 12, 2023 at 5:46 pm #

            Thanks, Dis. I hope that it’s my browser versus your browser (and not OG versus Disaffected). My logic thinks the former while my paranoia thinks the latter.

            ***
            Yes, the Dollar Vigilante knows his sh!t. He kind of originally rubbed me the wrong way but the more I listen to him, the more I like him (and Lucy and tacos and kisses).

          • Disaffected October 12, 2023 at 6:10 pm #

            OG,

            I’m sure it’s the browser, but I have no idea what it is. Chrome with latest routine updates on this end. No wizz bang add-ons or anything like that. Looks like I’m one of the few that can post links with no issues. Maybe the Provider or the Anti-Virus?

          • OG October 12, 2023 at 7:24 pm #

            I’m on Safari Version 16.6 (18615.3.12.11.2). Anyway, that’s cool if you can sometimes make it easier our loveable, bumbling CFN knuckleheads to climb the GLT ladder one link at a time.

    • gustafson.robert.22 October 12, 2023 at 10:57 am #

      Specious racist narratives in Ukraine and irrational Zionist extremism in Israel.

    • Disaffected October 12, 2023 at 11:28 am #

      Thanks! I’m gonna check both of these out.

    • TPTB-USA October 12, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

      “Joe Biden” has set US (and the World) up for failure, and now we start to see some serious results.

      Constipated thinking on blatant display, and a search for a fitting issue to use as an opportunity to CYA and further their agenda.

      It remains to be seen who Vivek really is, but at this point he appears to be a forward thinker, in recommending that there needs to be an immediate assessment of the intelligence failure, and prudently avoiding getting directly involved in the middle of a cat fight; while the rest of the flock appears to be running around like a bunch of chickens with their heads cut off.

      When things devolved in the Afghanistan withdrawal, Hanity made the comment that “we were one bullet away from a blood bath”, and yet the flock was yelling into their bullhorns that the US needed to get back in there and kick some butt (never mind checking out the back room deals that “Joe Biden” had made with the Taliban). And, my sense was that Hannity would have been one of the first volunteers to go charging back in with guns a blazing.

      “Joe Biden” has expended any credibility that they may ever have had. If they wish to represent me, they should all resign.

      • DaveO907 October 12, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

        The naked truth is—for all of our much-vaunted two oceans of insularity and unfathomable $trillions sunk into our military / intel, it only takes a nudge here, a nudge there—and largely passive-aggressive—to put the world’d largest known empire ever in exceptional and extreme jeopardy.
        Freedom. freedom of the government to indulge in a very competent form of incompetence, and the next thing we know…

        We be teetering.

      • Mike Sherman October 12, 2023 at 8:17 pm #

        ” (never mind checking out the back-room deals that “Joe Biden” had made with the Taliban).

        Huh? WHO made a deal with the Taliban?

        axios.com/2021/08/20/trump-taliban-agreement-doha-biden

        For fuck’s sake…you MAGAts are just making it up as you go along – delusional losers.

        • TPTB-USA October 13, 2023 at 12:03 am #

          Is it your claim that “Joe Biden” never had any back-room deals with the Taliban?

  149. Q. Shtik October 12, 2023 at 12:33 pm #

    Another prick from California has won the big ($1.765 billion) Powerball lottery. Why does it always have to be a Californian?

    • beantownbill. October 12, 2023 at 12:46 pm #

      Because some people in California are jealous of, and hate New Jersey.

    • stelmosfire October 12, 2023 at 3:13 pm #

      Q, perhaps the winner of the “Big Prize” was some sap on the government dole. He bought the ticket with one of your dollars you sent the feds last year. Is your ass frosted yet?

    • Disaffected October 12, 2023 at 3:56 pm #

      Honestly, that much money would be a pain in the ass.

      • beantownbill. October 12, 2023 at 9:16 pm #

        That’s the kind of a pain in the ass I’d put up with. I’m such a good guy, Dis, that I’ll make the sacrifice and take the money for you so you don’t have to deal with that shit.

        • Disaffected October 13, 2023 at 8:39 am #

          LOL! You can have it then, Bill. But imagine, right the gate you’d need a sharp tax attorney and investment advisor that you could trust not to rob you blind just to know where to start. Then you’d have family members, newfound “friends” of every sort, and untold numbers of grifters of the lowest order at your door wanting their cut, not to mention likely a violent criminal element looking to kill you or whatever it took to get their hands on it. No thank you! I think I’d pay the good tax attorney a small fortune to simply set me up with a tidy $10M or so after taxes, fees and all the rest, and then make the rest of it go away. Where, I do not care. Just make it go away.

    • Mike Sherman October 12, 2023 at 8:20 pm #

      Q – surely it has more to do with the fact that the population of California is more than 4 times the population of ‘Joisey’ (my favorite state, btw)

  150. Jarek October 12, 2023 at 1:57 pm #

    Barnhardt

    GREEN FLAG: when a government knows of a forthcoming enemy attack and consciously allows it to happen, cf. Pearl Harbor, 9/11, Southern US border…

    First, believe NO INITIAL REPORTS OF ANYTHING.

    Second, it is now observably obvious that Israel knew it was coming, was warned by Egypt, and let it happen in order to leverage the optics.

    Sit in stillness with this until the horror of not just the musloid terror, but the satanic evil of LETTING IT HAPPEN TO YOUR OWN in order to personally capitalize off of it sinks in. Beheaded infants, people jumping from 100 stories up, seamen dying slowly in the bowels of sunken battleships…

    And never forget this axiomatic truth: NO ONE hates the Jews as much as the Jews hate the Jews. Only the fallen angels self-loathe more than the Jews. That’s why they have no problem funding and arming their own enemies through Washington DC, and Green Flagging themselves.

    The thing about this self-loathing is that it is contagious. The post-Christian west now clearly loathes itself and desires its own extermination. This behavior is LEARNED and INCULCATED in the Post-Christian west primarily from and by secular Jews in the Deep State, New World Order and Freemasonry. It is one of the most anti-human and unnatural dynamics there is, even beyond the anti-humanity and unnatural-ness of sodomy.

    As for me? I’m with Pope St. Pius X. The Holy Land, sanctified by the Life, shed Blood of Christ, and His Resurrection, belongs to us. We, the Church, the Body and Bride of Christ, all of the baptized, WE are Israel. Ergo, ultimately, and ontologically, the Holy Land is ours.

    First we reclaim the Vatican. Then, Jerusalem.

    For now, we watch and mourn every death and eternal loss of every unbaptized heathen, and we mourn the unnatural death of every Christian caught in the crossfire of this satanic event.

    “…And so if you come to Palestine and settle your people there, we will be ready with churches and priests to baptize all of you.”

    My God, My God, send us ONE prelate with ONE PERCENT of THAT virile faith!

    Pope St. Pius X, pray for us.

    Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on us and on your Holy Church.

    Jarek: Interesting, but I don’t agree, at least not on the mass level. I think the Jews love themselves intensely and have taught us to hate ourselves. But the Jewish Elite may well be as inhuman as our own Elite. The Satanic aspect is deeper than tribal loves and hatreds. And in this is the hope that unifies that coming New World Order.

    The old Jewish self deprecation, was mostly superficial, done for humor and/or to throw outsiders off. In any case, that style is out and their pride is open and overt now and has been for a long time.

    Sacrifice a few thousand to the Jihadis? They were willing to sacrifice millions to the Vax. Indeed Israel was/is a vast experiment, more closely monitored in regards to the Vax than the rest of the world.

    Why Israel? Because of it being a very high tech and very “high trust” society and with a not excessively large population. And of course Big Pharma is largely a Jewish concern so they would have full government support.

    Hopefully the high trust aspect is eroding at this point. Israelis will begin to see that they have been betrayed in the deepest possible way.

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    • OG October 12, 2023 at 3:00 pm #

      First we reclaim the Vatican. Then, Jerusalem.
      – Barnhardt

      They sentenced me to 20 years of boredom
      For trying to change the system from within
      I’m coming now, I’m coming to reward them
      First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin

      – Leonard Cohen

      ***
      I agree with you. I believe that “their” elites and “our” elites are in cahoots and are often even one and the same.

      ***
      I hope that others noticed that the Big Kahuna’s first words were: “Interesting, but I don’t agree” … to his own post. That is academic integrity and it should be applauded, imho.

      • SoftStarLight October 12, 2023 at 4:03 pm #

        Do I have a high degree of academic integrity, OG? The Egyptians have said they warned the Israelis three days before the attack that they were picking up chatter about something really that was going to happen. Makes you go hmmm. But I don’t agree with myself either.

        • OG October 12, 2023 at 7:19 pm #

          Absolutely, SSL. You seek the truth. You are not agenda-driven. You are not all wrapped-up in sickly pride. You seek the truth.

          I have heard that about Egypt, as well. Also, Erdogan claims that Turkey also gave Mossad and CIA the ‘heads up.’

          That is, if it was not a black flag, it definitely was, at the very least, a green flag.

          Back to JFK:

          Could Hamas move the Peace & Music festival a mere two days before the show?

          Could Hamas pull all the border guards away from where they were needed?

          Could Hamas have Iron Dome stand-down from blowing those paragliders out of the sky?

          ***
          Q: Who could’ve predicted paragliders?
          A: Mossad – that’s (supposedly) their mandate.

          I remember that after 9/11. “Who could’ve predicted that they run jetliners into buildings?” Until all the footage surfaced of people talking of that very scenario in the years before 9/11. Then the incredulity just dissipated along with the curiosity.

    • Disaffected October 12, 2023 at 3:55 pm #

      I like the Green Flag coinage. Might then logically call it a ‘Black Flag’ operation when the government in question not only knows and fails to prevent, but in addition works undercover to facilitate and even assist in the attack, to gain even more leverage in the aftermath.

      You’re barking up the right tree here, Yaros.

  151. Jarek October 12, 2023 at 2:16 pm #

    RT

    The escalation of violence in the Middle East should provide an impetus for implementing a two-state solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said.

    Speaking to journalists on Thursday, the top diplomat reiterated a call for a swift resolution of the crisis. After that, hopefully “everyone would take responsibility for implementing the decisions of the UN Security Council on the creation of a Palestinian state under the principles that the UN has approved.”

    Lavrov spoke to the media in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan, after meeting his counterparts from the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS), a regional intergovernmental organization composed of former parts of the Soviet Union.

    “All of us had the same opinion… that this confrontation must be stopped immediately, that parties should respect international humanitarian law, prevent any terrorist actions and indiscriminate use of force,” Lavrov said.

    He stressed that civilians from both sides were suffering en masse and that the failure to create a viable Palestinian state was the root of continued tensions in the region.

    Jarek: The Mountain has moved! Glory! Paula, who called the Palestinians grifters, is out in the cold. This is what happens if you don’t keep up with the Zeitgeist, Paula. The Dialectic is swift. Crooked is the Path of Eternity! Study the I China to make your mind more subtle.

    Islander has triumphed, but is chastened. She wanted a One State solution, lol. In other words, complete triumph of the Palestinians no matter what the price to the Israelis.

    Paula is evidently very a very old fashioned Communist type. The Russian Revolution, being in reality a Jewish coup, took anti-Semitism very seriously, declaring it a capital crime. What a dinosaur Paula is!

    More commonsense and decency from Russia, the clear leader of Western Civilization. Maybe WW3 can be staved off. Will Oceania and Israel take the hint? Or does Putin have to say “Hands off, Iran” – or else?

  152. Jarek October 12, 2023 at 2:21 pm #

    Zelensky is still begging for money like any other bum. Why doesn’t he do something relevant and send a Cripple Brigade to Israel? Give back for a change.

    He lost. He can start dressing normally at least. Hopefully get voted out soon – if they still have elections that is. Ukraine needs to get the dead wood out so they can make peace with Russia.

    Maybe Russia will grant them their own state again, though reduced in size.

    • SoftStarLight October 12, 2023 at 3:55 pm #

      Lol what is a cripple brigade? I don’t think he has ever dressed normally.

      • Jarek October 12, 2023 at 4:00 pm #

        Some of the Ukies who had their limbs blown off got new ones and were reenlisting.

        I assume it was voluntary, but who knows at this point.

        • SoftStarLight October 12, 2023 at 4:09 pm #

          Oh wow that is cray cray. So they are almost like bionic fighters and perhaps in some ways super human? I thought you meant like they were called cripple brigades because their intention was to cripple their enemies. I just took it completely verbatim I guess lol.

  153. SoftStarLight October 12, 2023 at 3:50 pm #

    I didn’t have any hallucinations or spiritual experiences when i had my chemical romance with covid. It just made various vegetables like onions and lettuce taste like perfume or maybe sorta like windex or simple green. So it was a chemical like experience I suppose, but it didn’t have any of the mind altering effects that y’all are mentioning upstream.

    • OG October 12, 2023 at 6:41 pm #

      To be clear, my April 2023 illness was not mind-altering. My acid trips were. My ‘shroom trips were. But those were fun, funny and enlightening.

      My April 2023 illness (Whatever It Was) was awful. It “felt chemical” in my body. It was painfully coursing and surging through my entire body for the entire first week. It was nothing like any flu/cold ever. But I did not have hallucinations or ever leave my normal mind (such as it is).

      ***
      I dropped acid well over two dozen times (circa 1980-1984). Typical me: everyone would drop a microdot so I’d drop two. One time, I dropped three. [Microdots are already two normal doses so 2×3=6 doses of LSD!]. A lot of Purple Microdot. Sometimes Orange Microdot.

      But even then, I never ever truly hallucinated in the sense that green rabbits didn’t march into the living room playing the xylophone and skipping rope. Rather, I’d always look at fabrics and textures. Curtains would “move” and become almost liquid. Edges would meld and morph. Curtains were always the best to gauge how completely tripped-out that I was.

      And laugh and laugh and laugh. Man, did we laugh!

  154. OG October 12, 2023 at 4:37 pm #

    From Oliver Stone’s 1991’s JFK:

    Bill:
    We are going to trial, here y’all!
    And what the hell do we really got?
    Oswald, Ruby, Banister and Ferrie are dead.
    Shaw? I mean maybe he’s an agent. I don’t know.
    But as a covert operator…
    … in my book he is wide open for blackmail ’cause of his homosexuality.

    Garrison:
    Shaw’s our toehold, Bill. Now, I don’t know exactly what he is or where he fits. And I don’t really care.
    I do know that he’s lying through his teeth and I’m not gonna let go of him.

    Bill:
    Yep, and for those reasons you’re going to trial against Clay Shaw, Chief?
    Well you’re gonna lose!
    We should be investigating our Mafia leads here in New Orleans.
    Now, I can buy that a hell of a lot easier than I can the government.
    Ruby is all mob, knows Oswald, sets him up.
    Hoffa, Trafficante, Marcello, they hire some guns and do Kennedy.
    The government doesn’t want to open up a whole can of worms there…
    …because it used the mob to try to get Castro.
    Castro being assassinated by the mob by us…
    …sounds wild to John Q. Citizen.
    So they close the book on JFK.
    Makes perfect sense to me.

    Garrison:
    I don’t doubt their involvement, Bill, but at a lower level.

    Bill:
    Oh, c’mon!

    Garrison:
    Could the mob change the parade route, Bill?
    Or eliminate the protection for the President?
    Could the mob send Oswald to Russia and get him back?
    Could the mob get the FBl, the CIA and the Dallas Police to make a mess of the investigation?
    I mean, could the mob get the Warren Commission appointed to cover it up?
    Could the mob wreck the autopsy?
    I mean, could the mob influence the national media to go to sleep?
    And since when has the mob used anything but .38’s for hits up close?
    The mob wouldn’t have the guts or the power for something of this magnitude.
    Assassins need payrolls…
    …schedules, times, orders.
    This was a military-style ambush from start to finish.
    This was a coup d’état with Lyndon Johnson waiting in the wings.

    Bill:
    Oh, OK! So now you’re saying Lyndon Johnson was involved? The President of the United States?

    Garrison:
    I know this, Bill: Lyndon Johnson got $1 billion for his Texas friends, Brown and Root…
    …to dredge Cam Ranh Bay for the military in Vietnam.

    Bill:
    Boss, are you calling the President a murderer?

    Garrison:
    If I’m so far from the truth, why is the FBI bugging our offices?
    Why are witnesses being bought off and murdered?
    Why are federal agencies blocking our extraditions and subpoenas?

    Bill:
    I don’t know.
    Maybe there’s some rogue element in the government or something …

    Garrison:
    With a full-blown conspiracy to cover it up?
    Do you ever read your Shakespeare, Bill?

    Bill:
    Yeah. I do.

    Garrison:
    Julius Caesar?
    “Brutus and Cassius, they too are honorable men.”
    Who killed Caesar?
    Ten or twelve Senators.
    All it takes is one Judas.
    A few people on the inside. Pentagon, CIA.

    youtube.com/watch?v=NTmHmSFYcNE

    • Disaffected October 12, 2023 at 5:46 pm #

      Netanyahu then described some of the atrocities committed by Hamas.

      “Hamas has shown itself to be an enemy of civilization: The massacring of young people in an outdoor music festival, the butchering of entire families, the murder of parents in front of their children and the murder of children in front of their parents. The burning of people alive. The beheadings, the kidnappings of a young boy — not only kidnapped — molested, hurt, attacked, and the sickening display of celebrating these horrors the celebration and glorification of evil,” he said. “President Biden was absolutely correct in calling this ‘sheer evil.'”

      Blinken also said that Hamas’ attacks “brought to mind the worst of ISIS,” echoing much of what Netanyahu said.

      “Babies slaughtered. Bodies desecrated. Young people burned alive. Women raped. Parents executed in front of their children, children in front of their parents. How are we even to understand this, to digest this?” he said.

      “And yet, at the same time, the same time that we’ve been shocked by the depravity of Hamas, we’ve also been inspired by the bravery of Israel citizens. The grandfather, who drove over an hour to a kibbutz under siege, armed only with a pistol and rescued his kids and grandkids. The mother who died shielding her teenage son with her body, giving her life to save his — giving him life for a second time. The volunteer security teams on the kibbitzes that swiftly rallied to defend their friends and neighbors, despite being heavily outnumbered,” Blinken continued.

      https://abcnews.go.com/International/blinken-meets-hamas-attack-survivors-pledges-us-support/story?id=103925374

      ************

      Classic demonization technique. “They’re” fucking animals! “They” certainly are, although “they” aren’t who we’re being lead to think “they” are. “They” hide in plain sight and tell us about “their” crimes. That’s just how “they” do.

      False Flag, not one doubt about it!

      • DaveO907 October 12, 2023 at 6:06 pm #

        “Do as I say, (my being above reproach and vested with the authority, the pomp and circumstance of High Federal Office,) not as I do (my own ‘Shhh!’ wet work) because we’re the government and only work within conventions, treaties and laws.”

        Because “Rules Based Order.”

        Whose rules?

        “Better for you to mind yer own bidness, Snoopy. It would be a shame for you to find your flight is with a Mr Shoebomber, or Mr Underpants Bomber, or any other Fibbie-compromised loser. Or find yourself getting run into an overpass abutment at 70 mph by an innocuous black sedan with federal plates—if any at all.”

      • OG October 12, 2023 at 6:15 pm #

        Agreed.

      • BackRowHeckler October 12, 2023 at 6:37 pm #

        I think you’re wrong on that one, DA.

        Hamas militia came in on paragliders like the flying monkees in the Wizard of Oz, shooting young people at a Peace & Music festival for God sakes. I don’t care how vigilant you are, who could predict that? Quite simply Israel was taken by surprise. Hamas sewed the wind, now they will reap the whirlwind.

        Another thing is I believe this will remain a localized conflict. Egypt has been pretty quiet Hezbollah fired off a few missiles, but Lebanon has been in a state of total economic collapse since the port explosion a few years ago. Syria has been battered by civil war for the past decade and is in no shape to wage any war against Israel. Regarding Lebanon, Israel & Iran have been quietly cooperating to provide enough food, medicine & fresh water to at least keep Lebanese citizens from dropping dead in the streets.

        • Disaffected October 12, 2023 at 6:43 pm #

          Wait, watch, and learn, brh. All will be revealed soon enough, for those who pay attention anyway. We in the US have been conditioned to react to this shit the way we always do. It’s what gives the criminal globalist gang in charge their power. It will be a hard habit to break for most.

          • OG October 12, 2023 at 7:01 pm #

            Right. The Russia/Ukraine war has been slaughtering young men for 19.5 months now. Even Iraq was not shocked and awed until March 2003 – more than 18 months after 9/11. Americans are used to having Barnaby Jones wrap it all up by the top of the hour while wars often twist and turn for years.

            ***
            Iron Dome can stop missiles but not paragliders? Any self-respecting Jew should want his money back.

            ***
            I find it unfathomable how TPTB can always just blame incompetence and the populace says, “Those bumbling, but somehow loveable, knuckleheads!” and then, “Kill! Kill! Kill!” right on cue.

            TPTB sure are fortunate the way that their incompetence always results in exactly what they wanted. For most of us, bumbling has detrimental outcomes but … they sure are lucky!

          • Disaffected October 12, 2023 at 7:31 pm #

            One slight correction, OG: Israel’s mythical “Iron Dome” is actually anything but. Mythical, yes, but “Iron,” definitely not. Like the US’s infamous “Patriot” anti-missile system – aptly named, in that it’s pathetically “patriotic” for US taxpayers to fund this monumental grift – it’s a piece of shit, meant only to impart a false sense of security for the rubes, while lining the pockets of the Anglo Zionist MIC boys bigly.

            Bumbling ineptitude or shit by design? You decide, I know I already have. I do know that an effective marketing and sales campaign is a helluva lot cheaper and easier to pull off than actual functional R&D and production. “Occam’s Razor,” and all that happy bullshit.

          • Disaffected October 12, 2023 at 7:34 pm #

            On the plus side, maybe this will give the US a change to fob off some of their F-35 junk on Israel? Never miss an opportunity to cash in and all that.

        • Blackbird October 12, 2023 at 8:10 pm #

          I’ve heard that paraglider story before, over ten years ago. Don’t remember the specific occasion. Sounded fake then, sounds fake now. Might sound credible to someone who has no familiarity with paragliders.

          So a guy swoops in and – swoosh! sweeps up some Eurohottie dancing queen and flies away with her? Or guns people down with impunity because… “Well, what could we do? He was way up in the sky!”

          You need two hands to operate a paraglider, and without lift – thermals, updraft – you are on your way to the ground.

          With a paramotor, you have lift – a big noisy fan, that can be heard a mile away, strapped to your back – but you still have your hands full. And once that sheet gets snagged on a street light, street sign, powerline, your flight is over.

          But yeah, since it sounds so dastardly, why not? And they all looked like the FBI sketch of the Unibomber – dangerously, irresistibly, sexy.

          • KesaAnna October 12, 2023 at 9:31 pm #

            Lol , I know nothing about paragliders ,

            but the story sounds funky to me.

            Something like, ” I’m going to rob the rural Texas bank with my Matchlock. “

          • elysianfield October 13, 2023 at 11:35 am #

            “I’ve heard that paraglider story before, over ten years ago”

            Bird,
            What of the flying monkeys in the Wizard of Oz?

  155. KesaAnna October 12, 2023 at 8:10 pm #

    ” High oil prices will be the least of our worries… ”

    I don’t know , I remember when building plastic models was a cheap hobby.

    But that’s plastic or resin — a petroleum product.

    I suppose it still is relatively cheap if you want to build a garden variety ‘ 57 Chevy.

    But if you want to build a Russian T – 55 , probably the most common tank in the world , but not American , so a boutique interest ,

    that will be $ 75 or $100 .

    And you haven’t even built it or painted it yet.

    So who cares ? You could go for a walk.

    I would say it was a good hobby precisely because it was sedentary , pacifistic.

    Even in 1978 going for a walk in some places could mean you run into a serial killer , or just as bad , run into the police.

    And where I live has its drawbacks too ;

    You could get run over by a Dodge Ram doing 70 mph on a one – and – a – half lane rural road.

    Higher gas prices could profoundly negatively effect your life in a thousand as yet unforeseen ways .

    Residents of Ukraine or the Levant might not seem quite so important if you are sitting at home doing nothing because you can’t afford to go anywhere , and can’t afford to do anything at home , either.

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    • BackRowHeckler October 12, 2023 at 10:15 pm #

      I used to build a lot of those model cars as a kind KA. My favorite was the 1940 Ford Coupe. I believe the manufacturer was Revell, and they cost about $5 apiece. We had a little five & dime store on main street that sold the models plus any supplies you’d need like glue and maybe an exact knife set.

  156. KesaAnna October 12, 2023 at 10:13 pm #

    ” It isn’t so much that I or some others here believe that “might makes right,” so much as that we acknowledge the near-inevitability that might will prevail–in war. ”

    ” IN war ” yes.

    In my studies though it very often turns out otherwise afterwards.

    The Peloponnesian War begins with Athens as an empire , and Sparta as leader of a strong coalition.

    By the end , Greece’s golden age is over for both of them.

    Shortly both will be sucking the Macedonians knee caps — the Macedonians were barbarians in their book.

    Alexander becomes the face of Greek civilization , when previously Macedonians were the unskilled , sub – human Hicks you gave the job of cleaning your shoes to.

    It was pretty much total victory for the British in the French and Indian War , not even a full decade before the American Revolution.

    But , hey , they kept Manitoba !

    The outcome of the American Civil War was Jesse James became a folk hero , and a hundred years of Jim Crow.

    You could say the British won World War I . The Americans still pretend the British are important.

    You could maybe say that the Chinese are not so much an enemy , just a business that sees a bad investment and is looking to get out of it.

  157. KesaAnna October 12, 2023 at 11:34 pm #

    ” What is your totem animal? ”

    — Soft Star Light

    What ?

    Hmm , a few minutes ago I saw a questionaire thingie ; What is your spirit guide animal ?

    I couldn’t finish it though.

    One of the first questions was ;

    ” What are your thoughts on true love? ”

    — I have heard of it , otherwise , what the fuck are you talking about ?

    — Gibberish

    — Bullshit

    were NOT among the possible answers.

    Another question was ; Which answer most closely describes the clique you hung out with in High School ?

    Ugh. Infancy through High School there were a very few people I associated with at arms – length.

    And that’s pretty much it.

    It wasn’t until it was socially acceptable / not awkward for me to hang out with the 30 + crowd that I could have conversations that didn’t boor me to tears.

    And I still wouldn’t call that friends.

    ” Clique ” strikes me as jumping forward to nuclear power before the invention of flint and steel.

    So , yeah , couldn’t finish it.

    So I guess that must remain a mystery.

  158. The Man They Call Zazelle October 13, 2023 at 2:24 am #

    Hamas could have used balloons like the China did last winter.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle October 13, 2023 at 2:26 am #

      “We’re just paramotoring/ballooning. Pardon the noise/strangeness. Don’t mind us. Have a nice festival…”

  159. gustafson.robert.22 October 13, 2023 at 5:09 am #

    Obviously “moralistic” public support for Israel from the US is garbage… whether the Hamas paragliders were legitimate or not, it doesn’t really matter. (So often the real significance of the potential “false flag” quality of an event is overblown. Real or fake or somewhere inbetween…the event is now being exploited.)

    I wish the US would stay out of it completely. In general, I hate the US-Israel connection and think the only one benefiting from the relationship is Israel.

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