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The really stunning thing about Elon Musk’s campaign to clean up the back-stage rats’ nest at Twitter is that he’s the lone authority figure in the land who dared to act against the degenerate political Left’s impudent and remorseless cancellation of everything that held together America’s consensual reality.
Think of it: all the college presidents and deans, all the corporate CEOs, all the judges, all the governors, mayors, and agency heads, all the news editors and network producers who did nothing and said nothing about the wholesale demolition of truths, values, and principles carried out by Woke-Jacobin maniacs under their watch. And what’s more appalling: they all pretended not to notice each other’s craven inaction and silence.
And now, Mr. Musk strikes a blow almost every day, and with amazing insouciance, as if his effort to re-ignite free speech is the most self-evidently natural thing anyone in-charge might seek to do. And let’s face it: whatever Twitter started out as, however seemingly trivial this Internet app for social chit-chat was conceived to be, it evolved into an essential arena for public argument — especially as the old leaders in the American news business slouched into routinely retailing every sort of lie possible about public affairs that matter. (And as that happened, Twitter became for a number of years Mainstream Media’s enabler and chief enforcer of programatized untruth.)
So far, it’s hard to fault Mr. Musk’s performance just a little short of one month after taking ownership of Twitter. He acted swiftly to find the locus of rot in the company, and swept out thousands of petty tyrannical censors competing for Woke brownie points squashing free inquiry. He explained his actions plainly, without ornament, in Twitter’s own concise format. He laid out his own doubts and quandaries about a moderation board to establish responsible limits of fairness. He put important questions of procedure, such as yesterday’s proposed general amnesty for suspended accounts, to a vote. He did all this with wry humor based on an appreciation of how absurd Twitter’s internal culture had become.
He also offered succinct and apparently honest overviews of how his campaign was going against the background of our disordered national condition, and interesting insights into the disorder itself:
Mainstream media will still thrive, but increased competition from citizens will cause them to be more accurate, as their oligopoly on information is disrupted.”
“SBF [Sam Bankman-Fried of FTX] is ineffective altruism, but they thought he was saying he was in effective altruism. Easy misunderstanding.”
It’s hard to overstate how damaging Twitter’s dark years of insidiously massaging public opinion have been to this country. Open debate could have clarified the fog of deliberate disinformation surrounding everything Covid-19. It would have been much harder for public health officialdom to gaslight America over the origin of the disease, and probably impossible to conceal the nefarious operations behind the Emergency Use Authorization, the suppression of effective early treatments, and the direct ties to drug companies’ profits. The result of that has been the broad deployment of dangerous and deadly pseudo-vaccines that have killed millions and disabled many more. The absence of honest debate has turned doctors into murderers and accomplices to genocide.
The scope of this bureaucratic crime is really outside the experience of most Americans, who never imagined that their elected and appointed leaders would act against them with such rank dishonesty, cruelty, and bad faith. But there it is. And if Twitter continues to open up, the more likely that the responsible parties will be held accountable.
Likewise, the now-pervasive Kafka-esque program of political persecution carried out against citizens by government officials, including the many seditious schemes of RussiaGate; the ongoing, escalating mischief around elections; and the use of the FBI and DOJ as a combined secret police and kangaroo court apparatus.
You can add to all that turpitude, the wild irresponsibility of “Joe Biden’s” open border policy, our idiotic provocation of Russia in Ukraine, the surrender of America’s national sovereignty to the globalist Great Re-set cabal and its tools in the World Health Organization, and the domestic campaign by Woke Jacobins to sexually disorder the lives of American children.
I think Elon Musk is right: the Mainstream News Media will now face a venue where its habitual lying is called out forcefully. You can already see The WashPo and CNN attempt to make small shifts in their coverage of events, which double as efforts to cover-up their past lying in the hopes that the public won’t notice that it happened.
Nothing else so far has confronted the Left’s crusade to overturn American life so stoutly as Elon Musk’s reform of Twitter. It seems to be working. The Wokesters are acting like a gang on-the-run. Pretty soon they’ll be ratting out each other to save their skins. Reality is a harsh mistress when you’ve spent years insulting and mistreating her.
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Jim that was a beautiful piece on free speech and yet we are not allowed to mention the Honerable Madam Secretary as Hit.lery.
Rodster — That’s right. Like Elon Musk at Twitter, as proprietor of this forum I have a very few managerial quirks, and one of them is that I can’t stand those childish and stupid political puns, “Hitlery,” “Demoncrat.” And have stated so clearly many times. And I told you in a private message not to use them. So, if you piss me off again, I’m gonna kick you out of this forum. And don’t say you didn’t ask for it. — JHK Admin
It’s all good Jim ?
JHK:
“that I can’t stand those childish and stupid political puns, “Hitlery,” “Demoncrat.” ”
I agree regarding these stupid monikers that those who use them actually think are clever.
“I can’t stand those childish and stupid political puns…”
I can’t either.
For me the political renames are not an issue it’s the obvious lies and willfull ignorance of common sense in favor of the obvious and wrong talking points.
The Democrats are the worst offenders of this with the non-stop lying and changing of language.
One of the things that the MSM does and folks here complain about is
When there is no substance to declare, talk about, discuss the MSM always resorts to name calling and biased innuendo against individuals or groups. It is the greatest divider in history, creating the hate they are supposed to stop. Watching CNN or especially MSNBC during their tirades is numbing.
Remember that the Democratic Party thrives on division, using conservative, successful folks as targets for hate creation.
Good for JHK in his kudos to Musk, the current perfect example. What the heck is the Left going to do when Trump is not the only target?
It has always amazed me that one person can make such a difference to a population. I guess we are programmed to follow the leader. For any one to defeat Trump, they will have to have more appeal to the masses than he does. Counter that with the gimme content of the American public, and the next presidential Election may be moot. But
It will be the following of one individual, the one that lies the most about how much he/she is going to give to the people. Issues now are moot!
Speaking of Hillary and the Democrats, did anybody else see where the FBI is now saying they won’t release the contents of Seth Rich’s laptop for 66 years ignoring a FOIA request? For a laptop they first claimed they didn’t have and that they hadn’t looked at? Maybe they should let “Crowdstrike” study it. They did such a great job looking over the DNC servers.
Jim might be feeling a bit guilty, because it took him decades to realize the democrat party consisted of primarily criminals. I suspect that he thought that mostly described the GOP. Well he was right on some accounts.
I’m sure King Knut of England hated it to.
TOO! Aaaagh!
Jim, a trite hypocritical? Weren’t you the one who used to refer to Trump as the “Golden Golem of Greatness or Orange Man?
And btw I never voted for Trump, just saying.
Those aren’t puns.
I’m glad you pointed that out. Pejorative nicknames, but not puns.
Puns are the worst form of comedy, slightly below sarcasm
Yes, I wondered who would pick that up. It is easy and lazy to
wrap up one’s disgust in a person with a made up word. But Jim Kunstler is a master of English and I admire his descriptives in his column. In the drakest times there is something insoiring and enlightening about Mr Kunstler’s essays.
These silly monikers do not rise to the level of “pun.”
A pun is a clever play on words.
“Hitler-y”and “Demon-crat” and the like are not clever plays on words.
No they are the truth
“a TRITE hypocritical”????
You need dictionary, Mr. Malaprop.
But those are funny. Besides the context is everything.
Thanks very much James
Stick to your standards Jim
Jim,
I did not know this, so thanks for the nth reminder. I find myself wondering if I have been using said puns….
Great post today.
Mrs. SAJ
I have utilized such puns myself against these evil bastards as a form of passive aggression to relieve the internal stress that results from the blatant, demonic bullshit distortions that are forced upon us by the scum. I prefer passive aggressive because my aggressive-aggressive is not suitable for dealing with the public and I really never want to go there until they are raiding our homes in the middle of the night.
However, our host does set the rules and I am more than happy to comply, and these occasional reminders are appreciated and understood.
As far as Elon goes, I have speculated in the past that I believe it to be a distinct possibility that he is either a faithful angel or a fallen one pretending to be a force for good, because I believe that these beings exist. It is said that they possess IQs of north of 1,600 and abilities far beyond human comprehension. Elon clearly is way, way above the human range, and though I applaud all he has done and is doing, I have seen too many public deceptions to have total trust in anyone or anything anymore, aside from my Faith. Time shall tell, but if he was only human, I would have thought that the powers of darkness would have taken him out by now. If his IS beyond human, that would explain, at least to me, why they have not, and may not be able to stop him. I say that we back him all the way at least until proven otherwise.
Walter , yes but whatever > look at the good that has been achieved just recently . As Jim K points out there have been simply hundreds of thousands of influential people who joined in the mass formation > said niothing > did nothing >and are a disgrace to the free world . This piece by Mr. Kunstler is one of his best potsts ever, and that takessome doing
Yes, I agree and will continue to hold out hope that Elon can spearhead a movement to bring at least some degree of sanity to this ever more insane society of ours.
Idk what is sadder, that online outfits like Twitter and Facebook are so relied on for “news” that censorship of them can have the effect it does, or that so many of “the masses” are STILL talking about the 2024 “election”, and who is going to “run”. Good grief.
I would not ascribe undue intelligence to Musk until I found out whether he took the kill shot or not.
Amazing how many nominally intelligent high-IQ morons took it.
Not so smart after all.
My standards for angelhood are pretty high, and Elon needs to go through a probationary period before he gets to wear the badge.
As of now he’s a loose cannon on the deck, and it’s a thrill to watch him endanger the globalist mob. Further developments are eagerly awaited.
I’d agree, I’d put him in the same class as the Golden Golem, a rolling cannon, you never know whose leg he will blow off. Trump’s greatest moment was his POTUS acceptance speech, after that he ran downhill as if someone was putting a gun to Baron’s head.
Clarification is required.
Do you mean Webster Hubble’s daughters mother?
Sorry about your quirks, Jim. We all have them. You yourself have used made-up slur names for President Trump many times in the past. So perhaps you should be banned from your own forum?
You don’t have to like the use of snarky naming of individuals and organizations to recognize that they may contain a kernel of truth. Like my use of the term OBiden. I use that term to suggest that identifying the handlers behind our senile President is a vital enterprise. Using your power to ban such words from your corner of the internet is a free speech issue– in principle if not magnitude no different than the “guidance” that the censors of Twitter have provided over the years.
Musk is no hero. His mother is a high ranking 33° Freemason NWO ghoul and brought him and his brother up to be the same.
the promise of speech on Twitter is a trap- a way to lure free thinkers and independent folks onto Twitter to identify, surveil, collect data and track. I wouldn’t touch it with a fifty foot pole.
Musk is a bit like Trump. I’m still not sure if he is completely on our side, but boy, he’s worth it just for the entertainment value of exploding Liberal heads that he provides.
Christopher Hitchens once said he refused to write “OJ Simpson” because he wouldn’t use a cute nickname when talking about that brute. “To me, he’s ‘the murderer, Simpson'” was his attitude.
Sorry, first post – meant to reply to the comment above.
I wasn’t a fan of Simpson or Hitchens, but the “OJ” came from his given name “Orenthal James Simpson.”
In the case of Simpson, I would say the “cute nickname” was “The Juice.”
I like it that he wants to go to Mars and understands that if we don’t get off this planet and into space, we are going to become simply another extinct species.
Back in the late ’80’s I read a piece outlining how Mars could be changed from its present state as a planet to one very much like Earth. It described a 200 year timeline for the transition to arrive at completion. From what I’m aware of, not much has been done to foster such a ambitious undertaking. Thus, according to said timeline, we are 30+ years behind. Simple math has it still at 200 years instead of 170 years to go.
Looking at all the treasure expended on this planet to destroy societies and possibly civilization as we know it, I have to think we would be very much along in the process if, as a species, we could sideline the power and greed people who have been squandering resources for personal gain and bring forward thinkers and doers who can put species survival front and center.
Instead, we have these bioweapon death jabs reducing the population for the benefit of the few. The positive approach is to reach beyond this planet to identify near-Earth candidates as viable homes for our expanding species. Unfortunately, we are living the negative approach.
We need more forward-thinking positive-minded individuals willing to expand our possibilities as a species. The time is late, the negative forces appear to have the upper hand. Is this darkness a period preceding the light of a new, positive age for our species? Or is it the forewarning of ultimate doom?
“We need more forward-thinking positive-minded individuals willing to expand our possibilities as a species.”
Actually, no, we do not.
Please, God, spare us any more Gateses and Schwabs and Rockefellers trying to “improve humanity” according to their extremely limited “visions.”
Keep the thought together.
“We need more forward-thinking positive-minded individuals willing to expand our possibilities as a species. The time is late, the negative forces appear to have the upper hand. Is this darkness a period preceding the light of a new, positive age for our species? Or is it the forewarning of ultimate doom?”
The second sentence “The time is late, the negative forces appear to have the upper hand.” excludes the likes of the people you named from being ‘forward-thinking positive minded individuals’.
I’s much prefer your thoughts on the questions posed at the end.
Not-G;
What is relevant to me in your comment or quote or whatever is the idea of “individuals expanding our possibilities as a species.”
I repeat: No we do not need this.
That is evolution’s job, not an individual’s.
Uunless of course he or she wishes to engage in “personal eugenics” by mating with a superior individual and raising superior children.
So you accept the reality of eugenics? That superior comes from superior – both physically and mentally?
I do not say character or morality…..
I appreciate the effort, but c’mon man! Mars, for fuck’s sake??? Utterly ridiculous! Get real.
No he’s correct; we can generate through nuclear reactors a more boisterous atmosphere over 100 plus years.
The biggest problem is that even when completed when one can breathe on Mars it is farther away from the Sun so the highest temperature would be 60-65 F and the average temp would be around 20-30 degrees F.
However, a few generations ahead, if we don’t kill ourselves in the mean time, we could find new tech to extend the temperatures
Tech-optimism (delusionism) is a cancer.
There’s virtually zero electro-magnetic field. Just do some basic research. And check your delusons at the door. Jeepers!
Just get the oil companies to ship a shitload of dinosaurs, then burn them.
Alternately, you could get your hydrocarbons from Saturn’s moon Titan.
Tell us how to get through the radiation intact, and how big a fuel tank one needs to fly all the way there.
Last night I watched a couple of films about the ocean.
One of them was about explorations of the sunless deeps of the gigantic canyons off the coast of California.
This vid is basically like an excerpt:
httpXX://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXl8F-eIoiM
The technology needed to get this kind of footage is truly extraordinary. Comparable, perhaps, to that needed to fly off to Mars.
But the idea that once “we” get to Mars we can create a livable environment is IMHO absurd beyond belief. Each organism shown in this short clip plays some role in the web of life on Earth, on which we depend. for starters, half of the oxygen we breathe comes from photoplancton—not from an oxygen tank.
I very much doubt that any “elites” are bound for Mars anytime soon, or ever. And if they did have such an improbable death wish, it would be a lot cheaper for everybody if these elites would just go to Canada and enroll in the MAID (Medical Assistance in Dying) program.
It’s fun! Check out those smiles!
httpXX://www.dyingwithdignity.ca/end-of-life-support/get-the-facts-on-maid/?
“phytoplancton”
No, “phytoplankton.”
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JT, as my father used to say, “who died and made you chief?” Sorry, but your “…for fuck’s sake” is overkill. If you don’t agree then bite your tongue, but you aren’t the editor-in-chief here.
I couldn’t agree more with you my friend!!! As much as I admire Elon Musk, and I very much do. And as much as I like Elon Musk, and I very much do, when it comes to his Mars endeavor, I haven’t been able to figure out if he sincerely believes in everything he says pertaining to Mars and humanity.
Or, Is he playing not only our government but other governments around the world through private backdoor means, none of us know about. Kind of like, S.R. HADDEN The ultra secretive billionaire played by, that absolutely outstanding actor from another generation, JOHN HURT.
Although there is a couple of things different here. Elon Musk, is not secretive hiding out on a privately owned space station because he has a certain illness that as long as he stays in space it will extend his life.
But in the movie he played these governments to get back at them for some things they did to him years before. Or, supposedly, they did, we never really know lol. The name of the movie?? CONTACT.
It had some really outstanding actors in it. And before some of them wigged out. In other words, Lost their damn minds. Like Matthew McConaughey, the Dyke Jodie Foster. And did you notice like me, that ever since she came out of the closet her acting career nose dived into the toilet.
It also had, James Woods. Who many of us always suspected was a Conservative, but simply stayed inside, the, “Hollywood Conservative Closet”.
Humans are extremely adaptable. On this planet they manage to live and even thrive in a wide range of environments.
One future scenario is the low probability of an encounter with an alien race willing to dispense a little advanced technology.
For all we know, that may have already happened, but I’ll stick with the ability of the human race to adapt and survive.
It seems to have worked OK for the last few hundred thousand years.
@ JTinMD:
I agree. There are vast areas of the earth that are empty, or almost empty, of any human presence, which are far more hospitable to human life than Mars and that have the advantage of having an atmosphere.
Bravo for thinking big. Gustaph and the Luddites are right about the Earth. It’s a closed system. So we need to get out and off.
Hast la vista, baby. Fuck Mars. I’m staying here.
A completely unreal idea , completely unreal
Yeah, just like the aviation industry. Birds fly, men drink.
The planes you see in the air or the flights you’ve taken – just programming along with everything else.
There are no birds either….
We humans took a lush and bountiful planet and turned it into a wasteland.
So logically we need to go to a wasteland planet and turn it into a lush and bountiful place?
How does that follow?
The Forbidden Zone was a paradise. Your kind turned it into wasteland.
Marxism is state capitalism, supposedly.
draupnir,
Mars? Make Earth Great again, I say. Or at least use the last of the easy, concentrated energy to soften the massive blow ahead.
There won’t be enough rice for everybody, but not to worry. Because Mars. And tech. Tech is magic. Reality is 2nd to tech. In the meta verse, everybody will be well fed and live in Mars or anywhere they want.
That Matrix flick was prescient in some ways. The Judas in the group enjoying the steak and wine and declaring he knows them to be virtual, not real and yet… and yet…
More than prescient. The movie put form to the red pill/blue pill paradigm. Even within my own extended family, I’m shocked that there are (many) more blue-pill types than red. If I weren’t so busy preparing for the hell’s ape to come as my red-pill sensibilities mandate, I might have time to be a little sad about this.
Rubbish. Nothing is solved by our going to Mars. We’ll survive just fine here. There will be a die off and a return to a simpler and less grandiose way of life. Fuck Mars. Fuck space travel as well.
Right on, WW. 1+
Yes another +1
draupnir,
Musk is a character. I am not a huge fan because his business ventures have historically relied on a sales model that requires taxpayer money in a big way to actually work. You could not pay me to drive a Tesla because I don’t think they are safe, too many fires and explosions. And electricity as a fuel is not really all that green.
But I applaud everything he is doing with Twitter and I hope he makes a fortune doing it. He has entered the arena where two competitors are battling it out, one competitor has a megaphone and one competitor has duct tape all over his mouth. Musk has taken away the megaphone and the tape. I predict he has more ideas up his sleeve for how Twitter should run. I also predict he will re-IPO the company for far more than $44B.
But one interesting contradiction about Musk is his fixation on Mars all while he has ten biological children back here on earth. And yes, I know his first born died very very young of SIDS. But can you explain the discrepancy? If we have to find a planetary life boat such as Mars, why is he having so many kids? Its interesting to me. Personally, I think its more a statement about WHO should be having kids, but I have no proof.
He is a fascinating human being and I wish him well in his endeavors at Twitter.
My apologies on the acronym. IPO is Initial Public Offering (ie. taking a company public so Everyman can own shares in it). Twitter is now privately held, but could be made public again at Musk’s discretion.
Totalitarian controls are implicit in Space exploration / colonization and population control.
So if he is inconsistent , I suppose that’s a plus.
To use the latter case as an example ;
” WHO should be having kids, ”
In contemporary practice would come down to two kinds of vote —
— the kind of vote best expressed as mob rule .
— A vote engineered and fixed beforehand by oligarchs .
— or both.
These days I’m being constantly reminded of an anecdote from ancient Rome .
Some guy had invented a better crane. With this better crane public works projects could be completed cheaper , quicker , with half the workforce.
The crane was demonstrated successfully before the Emperor Vespasian , but he rejected it.
Why ?
The primary reason for these public works projects was to give Roman citizens a way , other than the dole , to pay the grocery bill.
A few thousand more Roman citizens pissed off because they fear sliding into slavery isn’t necessarily progress.
Re “I am not a huge fan because his business ventures have historically relied on a sales model that requires taxpayer money in a big way to actually work. ”
This is true, unfortunately, of many, many business models. Big Pharma. Arms. Highway construction. The big players in our economy have always gotten the government to support their agenda. As for international business, the US military has backed up the various schemes such as United Fruit and others in Central America. there are too many examples to cite, and this is not my field!
Even social media, because who paid for the research and development of the Internet? And on and on.
It is true of the whole green energy agenda: so far I think most of the “profits” have come from government subsidies, aka taxes.
Most likely Musk saw that federal and state legislatures were mandating EVs and monies to support green infrastructure etc. and he jumped on the bandwagon to be at the trough at the right time. maybe the same deal with Starlink. Obviously, that is part of the MIC.
Now he is starting another play, with Twitter. We’ll see how that goes. I think it is at least a reasonable hypothesis that Musk is betting that free speech is more profitable in the end than censorship.
IOW (in other words) that there is a monetizable market for free speech. A whole bunch of corporate advertisers have been pressured into dropping Twitter—this was recounted in detail in the Mercola piece I cited up-thread—so maybe it is a contest to see if Musk can hold on long enough to lure back advertisers or get new ones. I have no idea what the Twitter business model is, but apparently advertisers are part of it.
I think that Twitter is another government project.
No way someone can provide a free service to billions of people and end up with billions of dollars.
I think that Twitter, like Facebook and Google, were funded by the ruling class to monitor the public.
But then when we started using it as a horizontal means of communicating with people all over the planet, sharing news and opinions in real time, they decided to start censoring.
Islander, Right you are. There are countless examples of government picking winners and losers in the corporate arena. I don’t like it when this happens, whether Musk is the beneficiary or someone else. But we are talking about Musk this week and so this is part of my take on him. As is my belief that he has already improved Twitter in just a handful of days. I’ll continue to wish him well in that. And I do think he will turn the company around and ultimately have a viable base of advertisers who don’t mind all sides being heard.
We can’t ‘go’ to Mars, it’s impossible.
He knows this.
As I just suggested, even if it were possible it would be North Korea on Mars , not Wild West on Mars.
So it amounts to going a long way to go nowhere.
If it were possible, it would be the .001% going to mars.
But then, I’m not remotely interested, so that would be fine.
I agree, up to a point. I’m big on R.O.I. analysis. The likely R.O.I. on money spent to keep this planet habitable is almost certainly going to be much greater than trillions spent trying to colonize and terraform Mars.
I think money also might better be spent on developing effective planetary defenses against rogue asteroids.
Having said that, I still believe the human race should continue to endeavor to be a spacefaring species. I like exploration and I think exploring this solar system over the next few centuries will prove to be one of mankind’s greatest adventures.
But I remain skeptical that we will manage to plant large colonies of humans anywhere else in this solar system. Maybe in some other system if we can figure out how to do FTL travel…..assuming this ever proves to be possible and doable.
Lastly, if we ever get hit with a gamma ray burst, then the Earth is well and truly done. So, yeah, I do get the analogy about the problem of keeping all of our eggs in one basket. The rub is finding another basket to inhabit.
Are Carrington type events recurring? If so, at what frequency?
And whom do you think is going to get to go to Mars? You?
I’d put my money on the 1%, who will be looking for a place to hang out while the disasters they have brought down on humanity work their population-culling magic.
To breach the ionosphere is the very purpose of a biosphere, and why Whites- the only combination to accomplish this- are Gaia and Creation’s intent.
If we die, Heaven itself dies.
It will be only a signal burst, like a spray of pollen, not a continuing signal broadcast.
At this point in time. The thought of migration to Mars is sheer idiocy. I have some ideas on how to improve our situation here but, it would take a double dose of honesty, common sense and willingness to rock the boat, that would have to include being forthright about things such as religion, IQ, genetics, overpopulation etc.
Yes Hereward and what’s more, Musk has demonstrated a unique ability to cut through BS and red tape in numerous ventures.
Take for example SpaceX’s vertical landing reusable rockets. SDIO demonstrated this technology thirty years ago with their DC-X project (there’s an OK article over at wikipedia about this). They actually had a mid-flight explosion and yet the rocket still landed safely. Then SDIO was shut down and the project was transferred to NASA, which promptly said “not invented here” and shelved it all. Enter Musk, and we all see the success he’s made with SpaceX.
So yeah, pretty much anything Musk touches, even if it doesn’t turn out a success, at least he bulldozes away the accumulated BS and gets it going again. The man is inspiring to watch in action.
Remember Trump and the Central Park skating rink?
Getting BS out of the way is the joy of some people.
I see many parallels between the two.
I hate the word “journey” used in this manner, but I’m going to use it anyway to describe what Musk is undergoing.
He’s like a smart kid with a new toy at Christmas, one of those smart kid toys.
Woke,
Musk is a bit like Trump. You do know that Musk grew up in…South Africa? What events in his life, or the events surrounding south Africa, molded his character? What could possibly have bent him to the extent that he became politically conservative?
I remain;
Baffled
Seeing what the Left did to South Africa would make anyone conservative. Not baffled at all.
I agree. The communist virus – leavened with black racism – destroyed South Africa and Rhodesia. Both of which were formally the most productive nations on the continent of Africa.
Musk has lived through the collapse of a Western Country. He doesn’t want to live through the collapse of another one.
Was it the “communist virus” that bombed the shit out of Libya?
Agreed, Wizard. Do you remember Joe Slovo? A communist dinosaur and malign influence.
Empress Mary had already ruled on Musk: Thumbs down. Imagine her gnashing of teeth now.
He has negatives and positives.
Interesting that he says he will now make public the goings on between Twitter and the PTB over Hunters laptop preceding the 2020 election.
Bring it on!
I’m not much of an Elon fanboy, but you’re right, Jim. He’s the only one to stand up this nonsense. That’s worthy of my respect.
I always thought Musk was a grifter, but maybe he’s not all bad.
The one problem is: What if Elon is ‘controlled opposition”?
After all the US gov. has been behind him, subsiding (tax breaks on buying electric cars, etc.) him for many years.
Yes, I’ve been calling him a trojan horse. But controlled opposition is more accurate. And many “conservatives” have been fooled. Just look at this comment section. And today’s post by JHK.
I hope I’m wrong
Agree, it’s funny watching their wheels spin, though.
I’m just along for the ride. Like Trump, he could be sound and fury signifying nothing. But if it’s a sound and fury that maddens the wokesters and Dems, then I’ll keep on enjoying the show.
Yep. He was a WEF “Young Global Leader”. No one gets where he is without being “in the club”. The “media” fawns over his every word, contrast that with the treatment Ron Paul got. THAT is pretty much a give-away. If they are in the “media”, and not blacked out, they are part of the “narrative box” within which people’s thoughts are kept. Musk is a distraction, possibly being set up for politics.
Musk has been present at Davos and WEF meetings, Various facts on> Wikispooks<.. His original succes with Government grants maybe associated with these influential people he knew.
What if he is?
He’s done more to expose the evils of wokery than anybody who isn’t.
Musk is a grifter, Anthea. His future actions can be forecasted by his past actions i.e. he’s not going to do anything that doesn’t put taxpayer money in his pocket – see SpaceX, Tesla…
Our host is commending Musk rightly and I share the sentiment that what Musk is doing with Twitter is mostly a good thing. I’m eager to see how this plays out but confident that Musk will convert it somehow to taxpayer dollars going into his own pocket. If that is the price we have to pay for the criminals against humanity to be held accountable, I’m in! It would be a masterstroke for the powers that be to fund their own prosecution.
I cannot trust anyone whose eyes share the same distinctive glassy veneer as those of Zuckerberg and Elizabeth Holmes but that’s just me. With Musk and Twitter,I find myself in the odd position of cheering on someone who is not entirely honest and most likely not entirely human and who is at the very least steeped in the occult. Strange times….
Perhaps. But don’t forget: There’s money in the truth too. If you don’t put any real dope in your elixer, next time you come around, fewer people will buy it. Sugar and suggestion are enough for some, but others require harder stuff. Truth is the hard stuff.
Speaking of Holmes, does anybody have a handle on why Sen. Cory Booker was requesting a light sentence for her??
I think Cory has a crush on her in the same way that so many middle aged conservatives have a crush on Tulsi. Either that or he’s the father of her child.
Musk is already at least twice as rich as God, I doubt that “grifting” is any longer high on the agenda. Musk is a visionary and legacy is his agenda now, as it often is with many off the Uber wealthy once earning another billion or two no longer generates the rush of dopamine that it once did. I think Musk is the real deal. If I’m wrong, what difference will it make? Everyone else in his class is far worse.
Elon Musk is 51. His brother Kimbal is 50. Kimbal looks 10 years younger. Elon lives a very unhealthy lifestyle and it shows (booze, ambien, women, long hours at the office, etc).
Kimbal is some kind of organic food guy. I forget what exactly.
But I bet Elon has much more fun!
I would stick with your first impression.
Most businesspeople are grifters.
If they were more attractive, we would pay more attention to them and realize that they are grifters.
A dictionary definition of grifter:
“A grifter is a con artist: someone who swindles people out of money through fraud.”
Obama is a grifter.
Hunter Biden is a grifter.
Justin Trudeau and the other WEF creations are grifters.
Tedros at the WHO is a grifter.
Fauci is a definitely a grifter, with all of those patents he holds on products that are the result of government-funded research. .
Bourla and the Moderna CEO are grifters.
They have all massively swindled the public and the government out of money through fraud of various kinds, including the fraud of being traitors to their own countries’ and people’s national interest.
We just notice Musk more because he has “People” power ((I mean, the magazine).
I hope you’re right about Musk, Jim. He has already caved to the ADL, which is the most influential democrat organization pushing the cancel culture. We’ll see, I suppose.
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Caved to the ADL? No, not cave, just saw the blinding light of truth. There is but one Universal Truth. There can be no discussions, no argument. It is…settled science.
But at least he let Alex Berenson reply to the ADL, to the effect that he didn’t give a shit how they felt.
In other words, he hasn’t caved completely by any means. And the boycott initiated by them is still on last I heard.
I like what is starting to happen, because of Musk’s actions.
Alex’s reply to the ADL loosened something up. People like Kyrie Irving and Kanye West were cancelled because of alleged anti-semitism.
They didn’t say anything antisemitic, they were just accused by the people who decided that they were the sole arbiters of who is and isn’t anti-semitic; and those people are wielding that accusation much the same as they wield the charge of racism, i.e. anyone who has an opinion they don’t like on anything at all, is going to be a racist or anti-semitic or misogynistic.
We are going to be seeing more people able to express their views where more people will see them. The phony “you are anti-semitic” weapon is wearing out.
Musk may be taking a cautoius path vis-a-vis the ADL—a very powerful adversary.
Berenson may be more effective as a proxy than it would be if Musk were to seek a direct clash with the ADL.
The fact that this tweet remains, exposing the perverted, psychopaths running our Corporate leadership, MSM, Govt, Hollywood and most world institutions, shows me there is hope. This revelation is equivalent to the squashed “pizza gate” of 2016.
Accept the fact folks, there are groups of individuals in positions of power in the world, who sacrifice, consume and drink the blood of children It is not fake news.
https://twitter.com/itsnatlydenise/status/1595301521134354432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Horrific.
Thanks for posting. I wondered if Jim might cover the Balenciaga story at all today. I’m not very fashion forward; I know what Burberry or Louis Vuitton are. But Balenciaga is a brand that is so high-end that it is obscure. I’ve read of it once in the late Thomas J. Stanley’s 1996 best seller, The Millionaire Next Door and he used it as an example of what self made millionaires do NOT wear.
If you need an example, a Balenciaga man’s T-shirt with a decal retails for $650.
So to say that I am cancelling the company is to say that I am doing nothing. I have never and would never buy anything from them anyway.
Interesting. I have never heard of them either.
$650 for a T-shirt? How many could they sell? Or is it the old joke: “At these prices I only have to sell one”.
Or is it a money-laundering scam?
Hollywood wears this brand. And this brand is featured at some of the big fashion shows.
Well, Hollywood is also infested with pedophiles, so that makes sense.
Gross! Disturbing. Like the artworks in the collection of John Podesta’s brother that came to light in the context of the Pizzagate thing.
Balenciaga is a well-established couture house, founded in 1919.
httpXX://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balenciaga
The list of famous designers who were taught by Balenciaga is impressive.
But he is dead and now younger designers are in the saddle. The Wiki article is quite interesting.
This is what I said several years ago (RE: Twitter). It was key for spreading propaganda. It was the only (and still is the most popular) site where one could get real-time news, along with unfiltered reactions from both infulential individuals and normal private citizens.
I watched the systematic gagging and elimination of voices really kicking off around 2016 during the “Pizzagate” fiasco, which involved the discovery of a pedophile ring involving powerful individuals in Washington DC politics and the art world. The media went on a propaganda blitz, and many infuential accounts were nuked.
After that it slowly turned into an echo chamber for the WEF cult and their various tentacles.
To see the change Musk has already brought about requires no more than a simple scrole through the comments of any critical post on “Covid” or any other cult issue of the day. Nearly 90% of the comments now agree with the criticism, whereas before, the opposite was true.
Good times.
“scroll”
Abby Martin on utube had an excellent breakdown of Pizzagate.
and yes the media circled the wagons round to protect ‘them’.
Hm. This makes me curious. I lost a lot of respect for her during the Covid period.
Link to this? Not that it will make a difference to my overall opinion of her for pushing poison and pure evil, but I am curious.
Did Abby Martin push the jabs?
I am surprised. She certainly has been outspoken about the Palestinian cause.
Well, no one is perfect . . .
I dind’t know she had done any reporting on Pizzagate.
There were a number of pretty detailed articles at the Unz Review on the Pizzagate business.
A site search at TUR gives these results:
httpXX://www.unz.com/?s=Pizzagate&Action=Search&ptype=all
That’s true. I still see stupid comments like “if Trump had locked down sooner”, but they aren’t followed by a battery of fake comments bashing Trump anymore.
Well said, non-Stormfront Bro. Few people are all good or bad. Good men are tempted by evil. Evil men, by good. And even if not the latter in this case, there’s a market for good information.
You have to promise to be there for Mary. She’s going to need some shoulders in the days to come.
I was never banned for talking about Covid19, which I did for a solid 2.5 years unimpeded.
It’s only last week that 2 of my accounts were whacked for no reason.
Such an improvement!
I was also never suspended for posting about pizzagate, pedophilia, child trafficking, the trans agenda…
until now.
You survived? I wish I’d known, as a reader (lurker) of Battle Beagle.
Let us pray that the shutdown of exposing pedo rings is sabotage by the woke left-behinds, not an excuse or cover to shut down the most important story on earth.
Perhaps that was Musk’s deal, forced by the masters. He can open up to conservatives, and live–on one condition. The Dark Holy of Holies must remain secret.
You get banned on Twitter for a couple of reasons:
Someone (or group) starts reporting your tweets (doesn’t matter whether or not you go against so-called community guidelines).
Or
You talk smack against the establishment AND have more than 1300 followers.
If you have 50 followers, you can say almost anything you want to.
What is extra funny about Night Owl’s exhortations about The New Freedom that Musk has bestowed on us, he has consistently shared tweets by covid19 heretics the entire 2 years I have been commenting here. So he is well aware that there was not 100% censorship on Twitter before Musk took over.
Just goes to show how the programming works.
That guy is bad to the bone. It’s good you’re free of him at last.
I don’t do alliances or teams. That’s all in your head. What in God’s name must be going on in there.
Some people cannot talk about ideas without reinforcing (so they think) their “arguments” with ridicule, which generally ends up sounding pretty childish.
You’re the ultimate pile on artist. You don’t know yourself at all.
Islander, you really should go back and read your own comments once in awhile.
Excellent observation, champion, it did indeed all start to cover the inner circle, the highest tier, the real religion: Pizzagate.
Excellent, as ever.
We will have to wait and see how much Musk can accomplish.
As an example of what Musk is up against:
Two days ago Dr. Mercola ran a story titled
Mercola’s Twitter Engagement; What Did Elon Musk Do?”
“Within weeks of Musk taking over Twitter, information gatekeepers and controllers are panicking about rising engagement on posts from people accused of ‘spreading misinformation.’ Here’s what happened the week after Musk’s takeover.”
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It was an excellent rundown of exactly what measures had been taken by TPTB to sideline Musk and make life exceedingly difficult for him and make sure that he fails at Twitter and runs into such headwinds that he caves in all over the place.
I was going to post portions of it here, but the good parts were too long.
Well, now it is GONE. I found it in my email in-box and tried to link the to whole article. Nada.
The link only goes to the current story (also interesting, but . . .).
I did a Google search for the story and got a hit. But again, could not link to the whole story. It has been entombed.
So, this is partly about shutting down Dr.Mercola, of course. But if you shut down people like Mercola you shut down important info sources about those who are trying to shut down Musk. So far Musk is succeeding, and we should all support him —although in my case i don’t know how I could do that because I don’t do social media.
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Here is some more woke BS going after Musk (from Reclaim the Net):
“Democrat lawmakers nag Elon Musk about Spanish “disinformation”
A group of Democrat lawmakers have sent a letter to Twitter urging the company, now owned by Elon Musk, to reconsider the layoffs they say leave Spanish speakers vulnerable to “misinformation.”
They allege that, since Musk took over the company towards the end of October, a majority of domestic and international contractors that worked on identifying harmful and illegal content have been fired.
We obtained a copy of the letter for you here.
The letter notes that the global workforce had adequate language knowledge and cultural context to protect people from harassment and fraud. The letter asks Twitter to provide information on how it plans to protect non-English language users.
The letter, addressed to Musk, was authored by Senators Ben Ray Lujan and Bob Mendez, and Rep. Tony Cardenas. It was also signed by Representatives Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Joaquin Castro, Raul Ruiz, and Lori Trahan.
“Disinformation, harassment and fraud in Spanish was already a prominent issue that wasn’t properly or consistently addressed before Musk took over as CEO of Twitter. Now, amid the abrupt firing of thousands of critical workers, the dangerous lies have only increased,” said Sen. Luján. “These workers played a vital role in protecting users in the United States and abroad.
Dismissing these workers without having a stop-gap in place, only leaves Twitter and its Spanish-speaking community at risk for long lasting consequences across the platform. Twitter must act urgently to protect all of its users regardless of the language they speak at home or use online.
“My colleagues and I have long been leading efforts to hold social media platforms accountable for the unfettered spread of Spanish-language mis/disinformation. Following the recent mass layoffs and staff exodus from Twitter, we are raising the alarm to make sure it is taking the necessary precautions to protect users from internal enforcement gaps that might unnecessarily expose them to bad actors looking to harass, defraud, or propagate harmful disinformation, especially when it comes to targeting Spanish and other non-English users,” said Sen. Menendez.
“We’ve already seen the devastating consequences on our communities when Spanish-language misinformation goes unchecked,” said Rep. Cárdenas. “Elon Musk’s mass layoffs raise serious concerns about Twitter’s ability to protect Spanish speakers and enforce reasonable content moderation policies. Social media has come to play a large role in American life, and we need to know that Twitter will take that responsibility seriously as it goes through this leadership transition.”
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Fer Chrissakes. Spanish speakers as dunderhead victims who need to be protected from especially Spanish disinformation, by Spanish-speaking “disinformation spotters”? it beggars belief. How about some Black disinformation spotters to spot “Black” disinformation. And what about Jewish disinformatoin spotters to spot Jewish disinformation .
BTW, at TG yesterday it turned out that no one had ever heard of Klaus Schwab, or the WEF, or the Great Reset . . . These are all “educated” people . . .
“TG?” Is it too hard to write ‘The Guardian’ or what have you? That said, I have no idea if I’m even close to identifying that to which you refer.
Using just the initials for a two word title is um… l.a.z.y. with an added bonus of being consternating to one outside of your personal loop.
And curiously, I see this technique being employed on this blog more than any other I frequent in spite of the intellectual caliber of the majority of the participants being higher than most others.
I’m not trying to start a ruckus or a vendetta, but hey, how about some consideration for those who live outside your own parameters?
Thanks. Sincerely.
I totally agree.
The maxim I live by when it comes to this shit is, “If I don’t know what they’re saying, they probably don’t either, and it is a waste of time to read (and attempt to decipher) their comment.”
Yes, wasn’t Islander vehemently against acronyms a couple of weeks ago? The whims of this woman are simply astounding.
Did you watch the movie Vendetta? Superb left wing propaganda, much like the Battleship Potemkin.
How can you tell different posters’ genders? I admit I have been woefully wrong in my assumptions and then when it finally leaks out via some innocuous comment they make, I’m always left humbled that I got it wrong! And I’m going to say who because I don’t want to embarrass anyone, especially due to my own stereotyping.
In other words, people you like are women. People you don’t like are men?
Most of the time, we pick it up the same way. Some are loud (so loud) and proud, like Feminist Mary.
Ooops, typo: I’m NOT going to say who…
Oh, no not at all. I like both men and women and the intellectual heft on this blog is wonderful. I also love the fact we are scattered geographically so I can hear what is going on elsewhere. Sometimes it’s the user ID that gets me thinking of someone as a he or a she. And sometimes it’s just what they talk about. But it’s still stereotyping and I own that.
I like just about everyone on this site regardless of whether we agree.
mrs_saj,
Please do not start apologizing to Jarek for his misinterpretations of what you say.
Better to learn that early.
@Islander:
“TG” is?
Sorry, thanks-giving.
Evidently nobody in public office has heard of any of those things either.
Just conspiracy theorists like me.
I think those in public office are more into Trans Grifting. Not the same thing.
What? Nobody at the Thanksgiving dinner table knew what all here know so well?
Brave of you.
Kudos to Islander for “once more, into the breach.”
IOW, the Long Knives are out to get Musk.
I think that one thing that triggers them big-time, in addition to his free-speech goals, is exactly his insouciance.
Call it style.
Which made JFK also hated by lesser animals.
Just to be clear, I question the whole Tesla EV story from start to finish.
But in the free speech context, it looks like Musk is a force for good.
I’m sorry, but what is ‘JFK’ and ‘EV’?
Bwahahahahaha…..
Mick. If I guess right, can I get some steak knives? LOL
You question the whole Tesla story?
Musk has accomplished, managed the start up of a breed of cars that folks said was impossible. It is interesting that he has succeeded immensely in areas that the big corporations and the government have failed over and over.
He has produced a car that is “almost” affordable that is a true EV and is providing a platform for others to follow behind. He has also provided an honest look at what EV conversion means to society, that it will probably never happen across all society. He has taken away the bullshit factor from the CC Globalists.
Trump was an experiment, can a shrewd businessman run the government and outwit the Deep State,
No.
Will Musk be the experiment that will show whether engineers can outwit the politicians?
@JohnAZ – Musk did not found Tesla – it was a hostile acquisition. There’s a good video about Musk on Rumble that provides details.
Now, don’t be casting light on JohnAZ’s “hero narrative”. I don’t know if he could ever recover.
Two other gentlemen founded Tesla in 2003. Their first stock offering was 2004. Musk immediately became the majority stock owner and part of the management. They actually signed a document declaring Musk as one of the co-founders.
Work on developing the roadsters started in 2008, with Musk the technological leader. The first car was built in 2009 and the ten or so models have developed since then with his leadership.
So Musk is responsible for most of Tesla, and SpaceX and now here he goes again with Twitter.
I think he gets bored.
Well Mick, I guess respecting people with talent is out of date with you.
Is it hard for you to acknowledge that someone may be “bigger” than you?
If this country is ever to recover from the mendacity of the Deep State, it will be with folks like Musk or Trump as leaders.
Think what you like, it makes zero difference to me. You are just another name caller.
I think he gets bored too John. He certainly has a lively mind.
Lol…. JohnAZ. You are precious.
Agree with John; doubters, you forget rule #1: it’s okay to lie to liars.
Elon sells thieves and liars their own fantasies, and thereby gets things done.
That’s not irony, it’s justice.
“Now, don’t be casting light on JohnAZ’s “hero narrative”. I don’t know if he could ever recover.”
This little snark specimen is a rep (short for repetition).
Come on, man.
We expect new putdowns..
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Hahahahahahahaaaaa! Funniest comment so far (really saying something).
Comparing Musk to JFK.
Thank you, I will be chuckling about this all evening.
Don’t laugh too much, Mary. If Musk continues to laugh at the Deep State, he may end up the same way.
He’s part of the deep state so… no.
I didn’t compare Musk to JFK.
I called attention to what I see as comparable reactions to the two men.
You are probably too young to know of the envy that (it was very widely rumored) fueled Johnson’s hatred of JFK, and the latter’s ability to grab the top spot on the ballot while the old pol Johnson was relegated to second place. .
Gosh, sorry for the offense!
I thought everyone here would recognize that yesterday was Thanks Giving. .
Oh that was yesterday?
Yes.
It falls on the last Thursday of November.
Really? When did that start?
Interesting. That must’ve been why there were three NFL games on yesterday.
For a lot of Americans, watching football has become part of the holiday.
Don’t ask me why!!
I don’t have a TV, and I hate football.
Lol… You are so literal.
I’ve been shucking and jiving with this TG sub-thread.
I think it’s actually the fourth Thursday, which is usually the last Thursday, but occasionally it’s not.
Mick: (Making my brain work in lieu of looking it up on Google) Franklin Delano Roosevelt, derided by the wealthy WASPS as “Rosenfeld” and the subject of much hilarity over Mussolini-way for “Delano” was as I recall (without much interest) the one who declared “…last Thursday in November…” as Thanksgiving.
I was born in Bryan, Texas on 23 November 1940. So all my well-wishers here in East Asia are sending greetings (amazing number, honestly) while I am silly enough to try to point out that actually it’s the 24th here because we are a day ahead and twelve hours behind yakkity-yak.
Totally confuses the issue. Damage is done.
Well wishes to you too Speedy BB. And fellow Texan. My Dad was born exactly 15 days before you, as in same month and year, in Vernon, TX.
I was born in a later decade in a little ol’ place near Killeen called Fort Hood.
I was totally kidding when I was playing like I didn’t know anything about Thanksgiving. Havin some fun with Islander. But, I did forget that it was FDR who set the current practice of the last Thursday in Nov. I thought it was Lincoln.
Stay safe in East Asia!
Here, for those too lazy to look it up. From Wikipedia:
”Thanksgiving is a federal holiday in the United States, celebrated on the fourth Thursday of November.”
Not “literal,” Mick.
It is called being polite.
Understood Islander. You may not read this reply because it is a full day after this part of the thread took place, but I do apologize for being too over-the-top. I was in one of my manic troublemaking moods.
My goal is to never post here in that “mood” again.
Maye it was the “yesterday” part that had them flummoxed. If you didn’t know what today was, you wouldn’t know yesterday was a holiday, and then TG could have been almost anything!
Ticker Guy, for instance.
Let’s see:
“BTW, at Ticker Guy yesterday it turned out that no one had ever heard of Klaus Schwab, or the WEF, or the Great Reset . . . These are all “educated” people.”
Unh, I don’t think so . . .
Posted on Friday, the day after Thanksgiving.
AOC has the hots for Elon. It’s funny to watch.
What happened to Grimesy? She had Musk’s baby and that’s the last I heard of her.
She was dating Chelsea Manning for a while. They referred to him as Grimes’ girlfriend, but Chelsea still remains a man despite changing his name and a few other changes.
Chelsea Manning? What a freak she must be to date such a freak. Poor Elon!
Yes, she would ditch her pet white person, Riley, in a NY second if Elon crooked his little finger.
Islander
Do you recognize the Left’s attempts to get a handle on Musk to try to tear him down? He has shown the intestinal fortitude to tell the public the truth through a big enough format.
The Musk war is starting. Remember the four years of Trump? We will now see the same effort at the next person challenging the Left.
I think Trump is done. Why? He is past tense. His gusto is passé, the attraction that people had in 2016 to his blasting the Leftist hegemony is now an old story as folks have seen that he cannot attack the swamp effectively.
The secret? Control of the media. Or a lack thereof. Two interesting folks have emerged in 2020 that have attacked the Leftist media. Musk and Lake in Arizona. Lake went from a unknown to a force in the conservative side by directly attacking the media. She lost to a pretty suspicious election, not yet certified, but she will move forward, attacking the local rags as she goes. Let us see what Musk can do.
Trump also attacked the media.
As a Trump observer, as opposed to a Trump supporter, I cannot gauge the level of loyalty to him, or its relevance.
However, as i posted on a recent thread, I think Robert Barnes’s take on teh current situation, and Trump’s early announcement, bear consideration. They are still trying to cut off his balls, and he is still fighting.
“Islander
Do you recognize the Left’s attempts to get a handle on Musk to try to tear him down?”
What is the point of this question?
Please see my comment up-thread.
My point is that the Left has feelers out and uses its propaganda tools to attack anything or anyone that may pose a threat to them,
Early on.
Yes Musk drew fire down on himself.
Yeah.
So, again, what is the point of your question.
Do you think I don’t know this?
“Won’t somebody please think of the latinx!”
I am disappointed in Musk’s uneven commitment to free speech, but at least he is talking about it as an important part of democracy.
The bullshit about ”misinformation” is code for ”censorship of dissidents of the Official Narrative” and it has been rampant for the last 6 years.
What is the harm ”already done” to the “Spanish-speaking community”? Dollars to donuts they are talking about vaccine “hesitancy”, the sensible reaction of people being coerced into participating in a world wide medical experiment, saying “Oh Hell No”.
What does AOC know about the Spanish-speaking community? She did not grow up in any such community?
Where is this community anyway?
youtube.com/watch?v=PLOJutxxj_Q&t=1s
“Where is this community anyway?”
I don’t think there is a Spanish-language “community.”
In fact, it seems to me that “Latinx” is an attempt to create one “community” (demographic group or voting of influence bloc) out of multiple communities of Spanish speakers in the USA. I associate it (perhaps wrongly) with the recent wave of identify politics.
I believe that before this “Latinx” business came along, “Hispanic” and “Latino/a” referred to different groups (West Coast, mainly Mexican heritage vs. East Coast, mainly Puerto Rican and now Domincan heritage along with a few Cubans etc.).
Talk is cheap.
One is reminded of how Mary didn’t know (or pretended not to!) what the ADL was.
There are very well known acronyms which are acceptable to use. And others that are not well known and not acceptable. Knowing the difference is the wisdom of the editor.
I assumed that Mary didn’t know what ADL stands for.
Not that she was pretending ignorance in order to have some “fun.”
Not knowing an acronym is not stupid. Pretending not to know one is.
And the prize for pomposity goes to Jarek!
For
“Knowing the difference is the wisdom of the editor.”
TG – The Guardian said thank Goodness on Thanksgiving.
You made a mistake, Islander. Now you’re compounding it with attitude.
“I did a Google search”
What sort of moron uses google?
Those people hate you and want you dead.
“What sort of moron uses google?”
“Bile: Bile (from Latin bilis), or gall, is a dark-green-to-yellowish-brown fluid ”
(google search)
Who is John Galt? Elon Musk. Who are the villains described in Atlas Shrugged? All misguided or duplicitous Democrat and RINO politicians.
I’ve always thought that Atlas Shrugged would be the dystopian future that we’d get. It is hard to do 1984 without energy and we’d be so lucky to get Brave New World. Nope, we’re gonna get Atlas Shrugged with a sprinkling of Fahrenheit 451.
That’s the thing, Atlas Shrugged, Fahrenheit 451, etc. were all written as warnings. Somehow the woke left has mistaken them for game plans.
But first we are going through the Vonnegut phase of Harrison Bergeron:
docs.
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Harrison Bergeron
By Kurt Vonnegut
THE YEAR WAS 2081, and everybody was finally equal. They weren’t only equal before God and the law. They were equal every which way. Nobody was smarter than anybody lse. Nobody was better looking than anybody else. Nobody was stronger or quicker than anybody else. All this equality was due to the 211th, 212th, and 213th Amendments to the Constitution, and to the unceasing vigilance of agents of the United States Handicapper General.
Some things about living still weren’t quite right, though.
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Perhaps we should liken Vonnegut’s ICE NINE
to the covid vaxx.
It certainly froze up the global economy.
C. S. Lewis said the same thing —
“When equality is treated not as a medicine or a safety-gadget but as an ideal we begin to breed that stunted and envious sort of mind which hates all superiority. That mind is the special disease of democracy, as cruelty and servility are the special diseases of privileged societies. It will kill us all if it grows unchecked. The man who cannot conceive a joyful and loyal obedience on the one hand, nor an unembarrassed and noble acceptance of that obedience on the other, the man who has never even wanted to kneel or to bow, is a prosaic barbarian.
There is no spiritual sustenance in flat equality. It is a dim recognition of this fact which makes much of our political propaganda sound so thin. We are trying to be enraptured by something which is merely the negative condition of the good life. “
Who can forget Cuffy Miggs?
Sooo, how long before Musk gets investigated, and swatted, and all the other trappings that come with Going Against The Narrative.
I read that Musk will be releasing the internal discussion about Hunter’s Laptop last year. That should be fascinating!
My thoughts exactly. Musk’s empire is as much a creature if the State as any large internationg al
Something went wrong with my post. As I was saying, Musk’s empire is a creature of the State if not more so than other Multi-national corporations. As soon as he started shaking things up in his visit to Ukraine, discussing peace plans, and now his buyout of Twitter, his net worth has collapsed by billions of dollars, and the Feds are talking about investigating him. The Deep State with its media organs, will now seek to destroy Musk.
“The Deep State with its media organs, will now seek to destroy Musk.”
I fear you are right.
And what “power” will the “Twitterverse” have to prevent this?
That is a sincere question, not a rhetorical one!
@Islander
Sort of like the separate levels of the internet connection protocols.
There used to be 7, IIRC.
the twitterverse is in the reification software — in timing — before the physical events.
Why would the deep state destroy its own puppet?
We could picture them as the Ring Wraiths hunting Frodo.
Yes, cast Elon as Frodo in the remake.
@ Jimba — I don’t know if this is accurate or not:
“I am told this morning that Apple and Google will remove Twitter from the App Store if it does not moderate and remove hate speech under @ElonMusk. This isn’t a new policy, but a commitment already made. Amazon Web Services has the same commitment. So there’s that.
Shaun King says Apple and Google will remove Twitter from their app”
That would certainly kill any story about the laptop and make Musk’s 44 billion $ investment worthless. But it would also be blatant censorship — so let’s hope it’s not going to happen. I’ve never been on Twitter b/c it seemed like a real time waster and a way to ruin people’s lives if they tweeted something the swarm didn’t like.
Twitter is not the only place where things such as Hunter Biden’s laptop can be exposed. Far from it.
Hopefully I’m not totally ignorant when I say CFN has no app but it doesn’t seem to stop our interaction.
Musk has proposed a Tesla phone- free of spy features!
Google, Facebook, etc. are direct creations of military intelligence; their data storage and process speeds are backstopped by the power of government “fusion centers.”
He has the means to defend himself against the attempts to swat him, at least significantly more so than people who are merely rich or even extraordinarily rich. The more they go after him, the more they reveal themselves even to those who have been successfully hypnotized. So it becomes a question of whether they feel secure enough to openly and illegally persecute him. It seems to me they have quite a few things on their plates at the moment, from the ever unravelling vax narrative to the mess in Ukraine.
He could seek refuge in the Russian sphere. Wouldn’t that be a kick in the nuts, guts, and teeth?
Oceania is at war against Eurasia and East Asia. Oceania is going to lose.
I think we are far beyond saving or reforming any of this. My only hope is that the grid stays up long enough for me to see how well our tranny/diverse army does against the combined forces of Russia, China, Iran, and N. Korea.
Anyone taking bets??
“All Marines wear gay apparel–fa la la la laaaaaa–la la la la”
I was totally flummoxed when the military mandated the covid shot. I get why they want old people and other surplus humans culled but to require something that will significantly degrade the cardiovascular health of soldiers. WTF? The only thing that I can think of is that maybe they plan to use drones & nukes. Or they’re just bonkers, or both.
I agree, it makes no sense!
And now, some of the clearest data on jab effects is coming out of the DoD.
Can this be termed an “own goal”?
you don’t actually need more bodies on the battlefield if you have a smaller clone army with instanteous 5g mapping and comms.
I was totally flummoxed that 99% of the military caved to it.
Sec. Austin claims the effectiveness of the US Armed Forces hinges on the Tranny Battalions — they must be properly trained & equipped, and given due respect.
He also said a week ago, “We will do whatever it takes to ensure Ukraine’s victory over its Russian invaders.”
Meanwhile, 80% of Ukraine’s energy & transportation infrastructure has been destroyed — no lights, no heat, no motorfuels. Ukraine is a wreck. The gloves are off and Putin is getting ready to crush Ukraine once & for all. No amount of US dollars will stop it. When that happens I wonder how it will be spun and how the loss of $90 billion will be explained away.
The Tranny Battalions might actually be decent fighters.
I’ve seen Trannies at the women’s rallies and they are quite violent and seem to have zero moral boundaries.
Yes Mary: Old Sarge was known to say “Never get into a fight with a drag queen. They have knives and nothing to lose, so they battle like devils”.
Yeah, I remember one year two trannies were fighting over a wig and one of them stabbed the other one to death.
I was like, Oh yeah, on Transgender Remembrance Day there are going to be sad faces with candles and little bells mourning that dude.
The horror!
Paula, I’m dying laughing – hahahahaha!
Have you people ever heard of the Theban Sacred Band?
I guess not.
They were 150 pairs of homosexual lovers who were an amazing fighting force; they wer5e finally massacred when Phillip and his son, Alexander the Great defeated them at the battle of Chaeronea in 338 BC.
There are more historical examples.
So attempting to downgrade a fighting force because of their sexuality is rubbish.
And you sodomites have obviously never heard that it’s the exception that proves the rule.
I took it that canuck is an alphabet person.
I could be wrong.
Transgender is not a sexual orientation, it is a sexual fetish.
You Alphabet people who have embraced fetishists as your own are digging your own grave.
People who don’t give a flying fuck who other people prefer to fuck care a whole lot about men exposing themselves to children and attacking women, under cover of the Alphabet Brigade.
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The flak generated by the perverts flying their freak flags in schools and libraries is going to hit those who cheer them on, also.
But yeah, as a fighting force, they are every bit as violent as any other entitled indulged man, makeup and high heels notwithstanding.
Does “You Alphabet people” refer to people commenting here?
Oops, replied in the wrong place.
I took canuck to be an alphabet person. I could be wrong.
The Russia/Ukraine fight is tragic.
It reminds me of the old Roman Empire Coliseum days, when the Emperor would force two men to fight each other, while the crowd cheered.
The US has planned this for a long time. “Let’s you and him fight, Over There”.
I didn’t think that Russia would fall for it this time, but they have.
They are fighting the Empire’s proxies and keeping it on the Empire’s choice of territory, while leaving the puppeteers alone.
The US wants Ukraine depopulated so that Cargill, ADM, Monsanto, et. al., can move in unimpeded and take over the best farmland in Europe.
Ukraine is now sending teenaged boys who have been brainwashed for the last 8 years to hate Russians, and who are hopped up on Captogen, into the frontlines to be mowed down.
Only the women and the land will be left when this is over. And both the women and the land are already being exploited by the west.
It will only get worse.
The US is also planning to fight China Over There.
That is what the whole Taiwan bullshit is about.
A war is a very good coverup for a huge money-laundering operation.
Nothing left to investigate.
To Paula and Beryl: Yep and Yep.
Covering up your nefarious financial activities won’t be an issue if you are a pile of radioactive cinders. The arrogance and stupidity of the neocons is a wonder to behold.
So far they are getting away with it, though.
Russia ‘didn’t fall for it”; they war gamed for 8 years till they saw the opportunity to protect the Russian speaking people in the Donbass without Russia going broke from Western sanctions-they played it perfectly..
You’d like the neo Nazis to prevail?
Come on!!
No, I would like Ramstein to be destroyed.
Also Brussels, London and Washington, DC.
Add Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, New York, Detroit, San Antonio, Houston, Dallas, Boston, Austin, Atlanta, NewOrleans, Minneapolis, and no doubt a do dozen more hopelessly Blue metros I’ve overlooked, and America is saved and redeemed. It’s the big cities that are the problem.
Odd, isn’t it, the creator of the neoNazi militias, Zelensky, and Burisma is now taking shelter in the United States: the “retired” Kolomoiski.
The ratlines never stopped.
The US took in and sheltered Nazis, deposed dictators, death squad leaders, drug runners and various and sundry corrupt oligarchs.
It’s melting pot, doncha know.
Exactly, Paula D.
Brother wars- whites killing whites- is the equivalent of throwing open the gates of Toledo.
The invader’s presence in Europe is mustered at strength, the footsoldiers are ready.
Europeans will be scourged by collapse and riot, conquered, and ruled by collaborators and satraps such Rishi Sunak.
Does anyone else here think that they got out of Afghanistan because they KNEW Ukraine was coming?
Bill Gates is someone whom we must also keep in our sights constantly.
Dr. Mercola’s current post is also important, about how Gates is quietly bluying up the USA’s farmlands—and some pushback in North Dakota:
https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2022/11/25/regenerative-farming.aspx?
Musk is a potential hero.
Gates is an antihero.
Are there any computer or Net whizzes here who can figure out how to get access to Mercola’s post on Musk?
Maybe JHK would do a podcast with Mercola and the latter could make the Musk post available. .
I read somewhere that Mercola’s posts are only allowed to stay up for 24 hours. I can’t remember who made this rule or how it’s enforced, but I’m guessing he would probably be de-platformed if he didn’t do as he’s told.
Also, Karl Denninger’s posts roll off after a period of time. I think it’s 60-90 days. He has not explained this, but I suspect there is coercion involved.
Yes, Mercola was called out by I think the NYT as one of a dirty dozen of most dangerous purveyors of misinformation.
He was forced to strike some deal—not sure with whom—that he could leave his content up for only 48 hours. I think Google. I cannot grasp how he can be forced to do this. He did make a video in which he explained the situation, but that is probably no longer available.
A search for “Dr. Mercola ban” gets quite a few hits. Here is one:
httpXX://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/google-sued-by-anti-vax-doctor-over-youtube-ban-2022-09-29/
Of course, Reuters is totally owned. They use the trick of stating as established fact stuff that is in fact the very subject of the debate. E.g., “known for spreading false claims.” He is known for spreading claims. It is not known whether they are false or not. Of course, “spreading” is also a laden word.
Still, I am shocked at the completeness of the “disappearance.”
I think there may be a paid option to get access to Mercola’s material.
He has been venturing beyond strictly health-related issues, and this piece on the Musk backlash was excellent.
The New York Times was supportive of the Russian Revolution and Russian Communism. Yet somehow it remained as America’s premier newspaper? How?
That’s shows how deep the Communist infection went – and how right John Birch and Senator Joe McCarthy were.
The clue is the group that owned the Times and most of the rest of the media.
Wall Street actually financed the Russian Revolution.
Yes, thank you. Try and get people to admit it though. And those that know often don’t get the implications – which are mind blowing. It’s like telling someone a joke and they respond by making a polite laughing noise. Just business as usual. They then excuse themselves. They have to go vote for the Republicans.
Our whole social/political reality is Lie is what it means. And American troops fought for the Global Slave Masters as they will soon again.
Wall Street, specifically, Jacob Schiff and Kuhn-Loeb Bank gave Leon “Trotsky” Bronstein tickets from New York and $10 million dollars to finance the Revolution.
Germany didn’t send Lenin, the Weimar administration did.
He now has a Substack.
To my knowledge, that’s not yet censored.
Musk is a leader.
Gates is a manager.
Managers make very poor leaders.
Musk could be , ‘controlled opposition”
No offense, but am I the only person who has grown weary of the accusations that this person or that person is controlled opposition? Hell, I may even have used this hackneyed term a time or two in the past, but I’ve come to the conclusion that it is fairly useless.
The phrase is nothing but pure speculation and an attempt to seem more perceptive than those around you. If one has the goods on someone to prove that they are the equivalent of a Fifth Columnist, then lay out the friggin’ cards and make the case. Otherwise, I wish everyone would give the “black pilled” term “controlled opposition” a rest. It’s just a stupid buzz phrase that illuminates nothing and just further muddies the waters.
Islander: linky stinky
Meaning what?
I am guessing “linky stinky” is not an acronym . . .
When I went clickety-click on the URL all I got was a 404 – “We don’t have any page like that and have no idea whatsoever what it is you’re hunting for” sort of deal. Just thought I’d mention it since you posted the link.
maybe the Unabomber was right.
all this concern over Twitter. Twitter is for twits.
Agree. Most people don’t even pay it any mind much less participate on it.
…and yet we had a sitting president who was absolutely addicted – strung out! – on Twitter. I’m still laughing that Musk proved the audience Trump was so concerned with was 70% bots.
Meanwhile WEF alumni Ivanka was running a large part of the show.
Did Musk show that 70% of Trump’s followers were bots?
Regarding Trump’s use of Twitter, I thought the “received wisdom” on that score was that just as Obama was able to innovate a new type of campaign by using the new fund-raising and organizing potential of social media, Trump similarly innovated a new way to achieve the status of a national political figure by using Twitter.
Musk gets smeared by the media simply for the fact that Tesla cars catch fire. Tesla car fires make the news. Thousands of regular ICE cars burn everyday. No news there. Cars burn . Their complex with lots of electrics. I’ve been to maybe hundreds of car fires. They never even made the local news. I was at a ICE car fire in the ’90’s. Burned so hot nobody knew there were two bodies inside. I was also at a fire on the MA. Pike involving a semi and a small car. Car burned so bad it took 7-10 days to identify the bodies. Watch out for the orange wires!
I will agree that Teslas get extra coverage when they burn, but these fires aren’t all from car accidents. Teslas burn when they are plugged in. They burn when they are just driving down the street. I expect most cars to catch fire if the accident is bad enough. But to spontaneously combust is a different matter.
And don’t get me started on Driver Assist.
St. Elmo, sadly, I found this out again as my beloved 86 GMC combusted a day after I replaced the starter.
basic electrical fire. happens all the time.
Same script same playbook Guess whats coming again folks.
Biden has repeatedly said another pandemic is coming.
Protests Are Spreading In China As Backlash Grows To The Communist Nation’s Lockdowns: Report
Protests have broken out throughout communist China in response to revamped coronavirus lockdown measures that have gone back into effect amid a skyrocketing number of coronavirus infections.
Dozens of cities across the country have gone back into lockdown with millions of people impacted, a situation that has negatively impacted economic forecasts.
Notable demonstrations have included thousands of workers at an iPhone factory clashing with authorities, protesters breaking out of locked down buildings, and online outrage over an infant who died because her father could not get her medical services due to the country’s lockdowns, The New York Times reported.
CHINA: Protests getting out of hand at Foxconn iPhone plant in Zhengzhou tonight where workers are rebelling against Covid harsh restrictions and work environment pic.twitter.com/xwe2oAHYge
— Joyce Karam (@Joyce_Karam) November 23, 2022
BREAKING: New Footage of Chinese police fleeing from workers at Zhengzhou iPhone factory ? ? ?
?sound …???#Apple #Foxconn #Foxconnriot #chinalockdown pic.twitter.com/57OFTE0IFc
— Wall Street Silver (@WallStreetSilv) November 24, 2022
The report noted that the unrest is unprecedented for the communist nation, which has a history of using force to stamp out dissent.
China, which is where the coronavirus pandemic originated, reported a new high in coronavirus infections Friday, with more than 32,000 new cases.
The numbers have started spreading so quickly that experts have warned that China has potentially “passed the point of no return” in reference to the country’s goals of having no coronavirus cases.
“China might have already passed the point of no return, as it’s unlikely to achieve zero Covid again without another Shanghai-style hard lockdown,” Macquarie’s Chief China Economist Larry Hu said. “What policymakers could do now is to slow the spread of virus, i.e. flatten the curve, by tightening the Covid controls for the time being.”
The CCP is so idiotic. The more they try to achieve “Zero Covid” the worse they make the situation.
They need to let it burn through the population and git sum herd ‘munity goin’.
(Night Owl asks me to show him the isolate in 5-4-3…..)
There were people who said that covid lockdowns, both in the US and elsewhere, were really for the purpose of covering up a massive financial crisis, with demand-destruction attempting to ease the situation. So that may be what’s going on in China. Other people have said that the real purpose of China’s lockdowns is to suppress potential rebellion.
Yes, that reason and a huge behavioral psy-op for our ‘new reality’.
The CCP is probably still doing draconian lock downs because rebellion is brewing over there. Good point.
Amen, Mick. Tyranny always has an Achilles’ heel. Normally blind to it.
Zero-Covid is clearly a loser. But they are stuck with it: nowhere to go.
Zero Covid is like the War on Terror, it never ends because the concept itself is a fraud.
The fact that you bring this up randomly says all one needs to know.
It has been the greatest puzzle, why Xi does not implement any of the ivermectin/HCQ protocols.
It must be because Xi is not there for the Covid, as the old joke goes.
He’s there for the power.
That is a great question!
Meanwhile in America the sheeple are frantically looking for hand sanitizer and their masks
Benr,
This AM’s Situational Report ;
CHINA COVID POLICY DEVOLVES INTO WIDESPREAD CIVIL UNREST: Chinese government authorities began a new round of COVID lockdowns amid a record high daily infection rate across numerous major cities. Foxconn, the major producer of Apple iPhone products reportedly fired 20,000 employees at its plant in Zhengzhou after COVID related unrest. As a result, Foxconn has decreased total production output by 30%. In the southwestern city of Chongqing protesters confronted security forces demanding the government admit its mistakes. Reuters reported one protester was observed shouting “Give me liberty or death” and “There is only one disease in the world and that is being both poor and not having freedom,” he added. “We have now got both. We’re still struggling and suffering over a little cold.” The man was later seen being bundled towards a police car by security personnel, prompting angry shouts from onlookers
…Fired them all. What will they do with the Covid sufferers in the group? Give them liberty or give them death?
Saw a lot of that footage, pretty brutal, but at least some people are attempting to rebel.
Dear Mr. K,
The introductory quote you used today for this gem of a column has a tiny error. It should be attributed to The Vineyard of the Saker and not the Saker of the Vinyard.
Is the old dyslexia kicking in this morning? More likely, I suspect it was a tad too much rum in yesterday’s numerous Pumpkin Spice Lattes. I do hope you and all your marvelous readers had a lovely Thanksgiving.
My sister, fully vaxed, is suffering her third bout of covid this year. Her last bout was only about four months ago. She’s very ill. Her daughter and her grandchild just recently recovered, and now they are down with it again within a few weeks. All I can do is offer sympathy. I don’t say anything, but I’m afraid that her immune system no longer functions properly.
Even my 90-year-old, demented, and nearly blind, mother is noticing the rash of sudden, unexplained, deaths she is seeing on the news. I told her that is just the tip of the iceberg.
Picked up some bug last weekend and now again this weekend.
Never been sick two weekends in a row.
Covid clot shot worthless.
I think it’s worse than useless.
You would have done better to live in Hawaii and be persecuted by native thugs than to have taken the shot. That’s how bad it is.
You got the clot shot? Did you do boosters too? Inquiring minds want to know.
1 j&j shot to keep my job no boosters won’t do another.
I also will not get the shingles shot they are pushing non-stop or any other from here on out.
Might get the tetanus every 10 years or so but that is about it.
So sorry you were coerced into the jab, I remember that now, you talking about it awhile back. 🙁
Well, the new ‘bi-valent clot booster’ should do the trick!
Worthless but you go ahead and take mine.
If four where good, you should get one a week.
I guess I have to “lol” every time I’m making a joke.
Never mind.
What you mean my supreme act of kindness for offering you my life saving shot is going to go unused?
Gee what a surprise.
All good Mick.
I told my mother it was no longer safe to get her annual flu shot. She might have one foot in the grave, but I’m not in favor of nudging her into it. She’s from a line of long-lived females, and her aunt is 101.
the u tube shows a rash that some get post vax.
My friend’s sister has been diagnosed with Alzheimer’s. No previous health problems; a dancer. I.c., not a couch potato. Eats healthy food, etc. No comorbidities.
Friend says that now the sister thinks maybe vaxx-related.
Sister and sister’s friends are starting to wonder whether the vaxx is “safe.”
They are also noticing sudden health problems coming from nowhere.
So, that is something . . .
I’m still waiting to learn the cause of a horrible crash where I live.
Of course, we still don’t know what happened to that pilot who dies minutes after the plane left the runway either, do we?
Is the grandchild also vaxxed?
No one should get the same disease 3 times.
I don’t know about the child, who is only four, but I know her daughter and her daughter’s partner are fully vaxed.
Yeah the quacksine is doing its intended job, isn’t it?
Destroying peoples’ immune systems and sterilizing them.
Irene Cara, of “Fame” fame, died today. She was 63. One can’t help but ask The Question…
I’d like to note that Scott Ritter is STILL banned, as was Matt Orfalea’s brilliant video take-down of BOTH parties’ claims of “election fraud”. Right/Left is irrelevant, Musk still backs “the narrative”. Musk made his bucks milking the government, is a Pentagon contractor and lends his support to Nazi-Ukraine…. hardly the comin’ of the new era”, huh?
He’s also very pro-vaxx.
Well, they intend to break him now.
Deeply flawed, but still his actions can benefit us.
Speak for yourself. His actions mean nothing, and will do nothing to benefit me in any way. Twitter is not in my reality. Never has been.
what is twitter?
He’ll learn.
He took three covid tests in one 24 hour period: same test, nurse, etc. Two negative and one positive. He knew it was crap. As you know, the fake test was the driving force of the whole thing, a literal “casademic”.
I doubt he took the vax. If he told others to as per federal regulations, at least he spoke out about the fake test. For those with eyes to see, that would have been enough.
No, I heard him enthusiastically supporting the Covid vax. Last year. If he has changed his mind, well, good! But I haven’t seen any evidence that he has.
And there have been vax supporters expressing doubts on the veracity of the tests. All along only the liars and fools supported the tests.
And a pedo.
All you’ll get is denial from most of the commenters here. I notice the ones that disagree with me can’t tell me how Musk is elevating the conversation or granting us back our free speech (LOL!!). It’s all “Well he’s trying to battle the deep state.” He’s part of the deep state. All billionaires are. They aren’t allowed to get where they are without being in the club. This guy worked with the deep state to advance the transhumanist agenda. He makes faulty EV cars, FFS. He’s part of the apparatus whose aim is to take away our ability to own and drive a car.
What a silly psyops this is.
I suspect that a fairly large handful of CFN posters have a big glossy color poster of Elon in their bedroom with lipstick stained kisses on his face.
Oh, does your silly speculation include JHK?
Oh that would be bad of me, wouldn’t it?
So, so bad.
(I have to admit that most of the time when I post I am just having fun, and I’m thinking that it isn’t fair because most, especially you, don’t pick up on that. I’m going to wind down here after going back through and making any “necessary replies”. This just isn’t my topic….Elon….So I’ll wait and see what Monday brings. I’ll leave you all to be very serious as to how Elon is saving Western Civilization. No more raining on the Musk parade).
Why not just answer the question?
Most people who think they are funny as hell are actually bores.
Like you..
Yeah, I even bored myself yesterday.
To answer your question: I doubt that JHK “loves” Musk enough to have a glossy color poster of him in his bedroom. But, I do think JHK is at least somewhat bought in to Musk’s BS.
Hahahahaha!
I agree this thread does read a bit like Tiger Beat in the 1970s.
I do, Mick. Except the lipstick isn’t on his face 🙂
I appreciate your honesty. Lol…
Musk is playing a part. The Fox News of the Oligarchs. They are all playing parts in this loosely scripted reality show. The script is just the means to the end. The outcome will be very real. It is one we would never choose, hence the deception. See Larry Romanoff’s “The Richest Man in the World” on Unz. The power behind this deception is difficult to fathom.
I read Romanoff’s article a couple of days ago.
Interesting, but heavily flowed.
The man is not a historian and makes fast and free with his sources.
I foiund his discussion of the sudden elevation to billionaire status of dweebs such as Gates and the Google guys, Zuckerman, etc. one of the more valuable portions of his screed. He included Musk in the ranks of the “made” Wunderkinder who come out of nowhere.
My view at the moment is that I don’t care where they cme from; I care what they do.
If Gates were buying up American farmlands for a good purpose, such as supporting integrated farming, etc., I wouldn’t mind that he was a “made” wunderkind. But it is likely that he will make the country’s and the world’s food situation worse.
Similarly, even if Musk is a “made Wunderkind” (not sure that he is), if he does something positive with his influence and his bilions, that is what counts.
The “made” Wunderkinder are on somebody’s payroll. They will do what they’re paid to do.
I think I mentioned here before, that Michele Obama has done commercials for Target, a business that supports the trans agenda.
I have just come to realize that one of Michele’s otherwise inexplicable horse’s ass moments was in fact a commercial for…wait for it… Balenciaga.
Those boots….the dress was bad enough, she looked like Ronald McDonald as a black drag queen, but those boots…I can’t find the words….
https://assets.vogue.com/photos/5c1ba6eba2dafc2d479ee9f4/master/w_1600,c_limit/obama-balenciaga-01.jpg
For those who missed it, Balenciaga put out an ad featuring small children, with teddy bears wearing some sort of bondage getup.
Well she’s obviously angling to become the next Secretary of Defense. She’s well qualified to finish the trans-ition from the US Armed Forces to the US Woke Forces….with arms. And legs. Open. For anything.
Yikes, that outfit.
I keep being reminded of “Idiocracy.”
The design houses sure seem to be in league with pedophilia symbolism, alright.
Did you ever see this one?
https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestnews/something-is-terribly-wrong-with-the-childrens-clothing-line-caroline-bosmans/
I just went to the Caroline Bosmans site. Europe is definitely the Satanic continent. What a bunch of sick, twisted, wicked, perverts. I can just feel the darkness on that site.
There is one section on the site ‘Bo(Y)smans’ just to give an idea.
In all of the pictures the kids look depressed or emotionless. No elan vitale at all. Spiritless. This is the look this twisted euro trash satanic witch is fostering and selling .
This is the mindset/culture of Zelensky and his wife, btw. This is why they are so loved by euro trash, anglo trash, skandinavian trash, and amero trash. (Hollywood). He’s one of them.
Omigod. Another expose of elite debauchery.
How many times can they cover this shit up?
I note that Alex Jones will not be allowed to reinstate his Twitter account.
So instead of the beauty and style of Jackie Kennedy or Melania Trump we get a former First Lady dressed as a ….. what exactly?!
Kids dressed as prisoners with flat expressions, lying on mattresses, faces deformed with hideous make-up — where are the parents?
It makes you wonder.
Are the parents also degenerates? Did they sell the children?
Are the children orphans? I have come to believe that part of the continual war-making of the US considers the resulting widows and orphans as part of the loot, instead of unfortunate collateral damage.
The orphans of Ukraine are probably already in the dungeons of the perverts in Brussels and London.
I read “its native Belgium” and I really didn’t have to read any further, but I did.
No I had not seen that one, thanks for posting it.
Ghastly stuff.
Beryl, you have wounded me. That mammoth, glittering, yellow thing will be appearing in my nightmares for the foreseeable future. Dear God, why?
@ Beryl of Oyl:
Much as I hate criticizing someone for their looks, I think I can be excused in cases where the person is presenting themselves as fashionable.
Michelle Obama–who is not an attractive women to being with–looks like a horse in a yellow dress, in that picture. I dislike the dress more than the boots, myself.
That poor woman has a horrible figure–which is okay in itself, as many other people also have horrible figures. Why Balenciaga would allow Michelle Obama anywhere near one of their dresses or a pair of their boots is a mystery to me. I don’t think any of their customers want to look like a horse in a dress.
It’s just more of the Emperor’s New Clothes routine, to see what people buy in. Which is most people.
Sort of like that fat ugly boy who won the Miss Teen Beauty Pageant a couple of weeks ago.
Correct, Mary. I’m not sure which was worse in that beauty contest: the fat pervert in the dress, or the pretty young ladies around him all grinning as if it was all perfectly normal.
It’s peer pressure. None of them are bold enough to cry “the emperor has no clothes!”
Yes, I’m not into the whole referring to Hillary as Cankles as if that has anything to do with her character, but how people choose to present themselves is a whole ‘nother ball game.
I kind of think they were exulting in their ability to compel a former First Lady to make a fool of herself.
OMG, where to start?
Well, style she sure ain’t got.
Also, she is missing a waist.
Also, she is just plain ugly.
She really needs to hire a good stylist or something.
How can Vogue sink so low?
another gender questionable one is Serena W.
I saw huge graphics of her as ‘beautiful’.
I always though her sister Venus was quite beautiful, but no one ever made that claim about her.
Of course, that was pre-Obama, when they weren’t trying desperately to divide Americans by forcing us to agree with any crazy thing they ordered us to think.
She looks more and more like Iron Mike Tyson every time I see her.
Ugly is the new look. And I’m being serious. “The Ugly have been downtrodden for too long”. (In their view).
After all, aren’t most trans people quite Ugly? Along with most of the 72 “genders”?
Ugly is being embraced, celebrated, and promoted. Both in looks and behavior. Beauty is racist, sexist, homophobic, bullying, and transphobic.
You have a point, Mick. The vitriol directed at Melania was IMO thinly disguised jealousy. Serena Williams and Michelle have a peevish expression on their faces in most of the pictures I’ve seen of them and in interviews. And big chips on their shoulders in spite of their success.
Speaking of Melania, even she had a difficult time carrying off bold shiny yellow. She managed it though.
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/12/590x/Melaia-Trump-stuns-in-yellow-1142311.jpg?r=1560940873163
What is with the flowing yellow?
Actually, Michelle Obama wore yellow for the Inauguration. I thought both the color and the style looked lame. Not very sylish and not appropriate to January in Washington, DC. .
I don’t know, Beryl. That was not attractive, even on Melania.
Few people can wear yellow. I’m not sure anyone can.
It is. The doughier, more tatted up, with rings in the nose, and greasy dyed rainbow hair (e.g., like a clown) and the more cheap and ugly the clothing the better.
It’s all been engineered.
@ MaryQueen:
The PTB have been at this for decades. We’ve been inundated with crappy art, crappy literature, crappy fashion, and crappy music. One glaring example is NPR’s praise for Cardi B’s WAP.
This is coupled with a repudiation of all that is of high quality in the arts–and a gratuitous insult to all of use who dare to dislike crap. (We are Philistines.)
This is not only a campaign to normalize calling evil good and ugliness beauty; it’s an insult.
I’m well aware.
Check out Dave McGowan for how the ‘hippy’ movement was one big psyops.
The PTB have always messed with us little people.
You just described my brother’s second wife, Mary.
Yikes!
Yes, the Drag Queen as Beauty Queen. Another test: How many women will fall for this perverted standard? Apparently, many.
Women who have already given up on themselves, because they can’t achieve the standard previously thrown at them constantly in the MSM.
I can remember when American newspapers weren’t full of pictures of celebrities’ “bikini bodies”.
Think of all the young ‘influencers’ showing off their plastic surgery, and they are in their twenties!
@Jarek, I was really struck by the smiling, pretty young women standing next to that monstrous hulk at the “beauty” contest in New Hampshire. I absolutely promise you that every single one of them had a heart full of rage and would have liked to scratch his eyes out. But they’re utterly cowed in a way that the most supposed 1950s era victim of the patriarchy would never have gone along with.
I was almost sorry for them, but . . . no. They’re going along with it when the solution and the power to end this nonsense is in their hands. All they have to do is refuse to participate in such absurd contests, or in “women’s” sports that allow men to take part. Why should they not do so? They’re not permitted to win anyway, so what would they be losing by not taking part except the dubious right to be publicly humiliated?
Yeah, as in the swimming with what his name. At least there was some push back after a while. And it awakened many.
Some of the young women signed an anonymous letter via an attorney. They had already been told that “they would never have a career” if they spoke out.
Utterly damning. Hopefully the responses will be quicker in the future.
Why does no one remember what it was like to be a teen? They would rather die than not agree with their peers.
It’s not high school girls who should be stopping this insanity, it’s their parents and school boards.
Ziggy Stardust! She’s the new David Bowie. The old one is floating among the stars now.
But boy could he play guitar…
Lol… I mean literally, that made me laugh out loud. Thanks.
If that man fell to Earth, it would be more destructive than the meteor that killed off the dinosaurs.
awaiting moderation my bad, I thought I got that link from here or OurFiniteWorld.
here’s a link to that memory aid.
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Your comment is awaiting moderation.
There are some things a man just shouldn’t wear…
I’m gonna go out on a limb and say crotch-high sparkle boots and yellow aluminum peeled from the side of a school bus are a couple of those things.
That’s just you, Blackbird.
Well, ok, I guess those things are acceptable if…
If Big Mike re-wears that ensemble while singing “My Favorite Things” – incorporating his costume into the lyrics…
Crotch-high sparkle boots,
Yellow aluminum
Peeled from the side of a bus…
Ok Big Mike, you go… brutha!
That is a man. All you have to do is watch a few videos, and you can see the junk bulging from a tight dress. Joan Rivers, when asked if she thought there would ever be a gay president said “We have one now.” She said his spouse was a man and everbody knew it. I wonder if she was silenced. Barry slipped on several occasions and called his spouse Michael wuite publically. There are pictures of him in his younger days with a guy that looks just like his spouse and was named Michael. There is even a gym ID photo of the guy.
Even if it isn’t just the appearance would explain Barry’s fondness for bathhouses.
Who’d go home to that?
Did you see that photo of the Obama’s rowing? Mike was in front, churning the water like she was Burt Reynolds in Deliverance, trying to escape the psycho hillbillies, while Barry sat in the back with that “I’ll just work the rudder” look on his face. Pathetic.
The brain is the most important “muscle”. He has one, she doesn’t.
She still can’t get over the short, old White woman who asked her to get something she couldn’t reach.
Re the Balenciaga ad, don’t forget to mention that it contains visible documents and books that refer to child porn
Such a lumbering, simian, hideous sight to behold. Not quite sure what Barry O. every saw in that….er….thing…..to make him want to procreate with it.
“The really stunning thing about Elon Musk’s campaign to clean up the back-stage rats’ nest at Twitter is that he’s the lone authority figure in the land who dared to act against the degenerate political Left’s impudent and remorseless cancellation of everything that held together America’s consensual reality.”
That’s a beautiful summation of the situation. I find it particularly unnerving to see supposed conservatives join in the condemnation of Musk when he is the lone voice of opposition.
Jack straw
Yes!
Just yesterday, folks on this blog were calling down Musk for various reasons. It is like no matter who is out there hurling stuff at the Deep State and the PTB, they are always part of it, and are weirdo bad guys.
If there is nobody that meets these folks expectations, why bother to say or do anything?
You both have no clue. Clueless.
So desperate to have a Hero. Pretty sad.
Are you one of Mary’s sock puppets? Humanity needs heroes. And even small communities will have and must have leaders who inspire the rest.
You both have so little understanding of human nature.
LMAO, from the person with zero self-awareness who hates most of humanity and himself.
Too funny to be believed.
Well enlighten me/us Adolf! We/I want to learn!
(Oh that is rich…you being a tutor for understanding human nature).
What is there to say, Dick? I say humanity needs leaders. You say they don’t. I’m right. You’re wrong – apparently seeing square triangles and intersecting parallel lines. Maybe parallel lines do intersect at infinity, but not in this world.
You have a weird idea of what a good leader is. For someone who is purportedly as educated, and supposedly intelligent, as yourself I find your view that Musk has that potential to be……..silly. Yeah, let’s just go with silly.
Oh, and how 12 year old of you. Replacing the first letter of my name with a ‘D’.
Ohhhhhhh…….you got me.
Silly little nazi.
I didn’t say that per se. A thought leader, yes. A leader of men? Not so much.
You called me Adolf. So in good schoolyard fashion, I called you Dick. Mary lives at this level nearly all of the time – as you will find out by and by.
Yeah, that’s a fair point. ‘Adolf’ followed by ‘Dick’ response.
Yes. He specifically called out Bay area wokeness.
I notice Nancy seems to have quit trying to blame her husband’s attack on white supremacist Trump supporters and the January 6 protests.
Of course not. It was climate change.
Me too. I don’t need to “believe in” Elon Musk to support what he is doing with Twitter. The fact that the entire communist hard Left has united as one in howls of RAGE and that they have mobilized their woke battalions of corporate whores to try to dry up Twitter’s advertising base tells me that Elon is flying PRECISELY over the correct bombing targets.
Remember – the measure of a man can often be assessed by the caliber of the enemies he makes.
So some people with a lot of influence are allowed back on the platform, and some snotty $300K-a-year automatons were fired, and no more free lunches (literally) for a lot of them. It’s fun theater to be sure.
But then there’s this:
“Twitter now has a new policy against Holocaust denial, 9/11 denial, or Sandy Hook denial. Thanks for adding this @elonmusk.”
https://twitter.com/Arwenstar/status/1595920458675027968
Also censoring the “Died Suddenly” documentary:
https://twitter.com/HangallMPs2/status/1595957750445576194
What do people make of that?
Or Musk being pro-vax?
https://twitter.com/Siempre420amor/status/1595934975886589953
Also, as of this writing, Alex Jones is still banned. And so is my own account, after not breaking any rules. There is still no recourse if your account is whacked out of nowhere.
I am just going to assume he’s making out like a bandit with the $8 ‘blue check’ campaign. It is entertaining to see Musk as the “Fix it up Chappy” from Sneetches on Beaches by Dr. Seuss, that is for sure.
What suckers the general public are.
Well….there you go again…speaking inconvenient truths.
How dare you! How dare you!
I await many excuses/justification arguments.
No excuses or justifications. Some have pointed out Musk’s debits, and others his credits. Both are equally real and should be weighed for their value or otherwise. The fact he has not done everything you (or I) would wish doesn’t cancel out what he has done.
You mean cancel out this big psyops campaign that everyone is falling for, as they continue to brag that they are so in the know and onto every move of the PTB?
I’m just laughing.
I think his idea is mostly a business stance, that twitter was in danger of losing value and function by alienating too many customers too directly, and he will play both sides a bit to keep twitter a hopping place, and profitable.
And I’m okay with that. I like twitter, for the opportunities for conversation.
We now rely on/look to some greedy asshole billionaire to grant us the free speech we already have as a birthright?
What the hell is wrong with people?
It is a dramatic turn of events, that Elon has taken (pragmatically, I think) this iconoclastic stance for time being against some “elite” narratives.
To me, it’s evidence of elite positions being less planned, uniform and impenetrable than some believe. But, I think you see the opposite, intricate orchestration far as eye can see, kind of?
I too am curious as to what got you banned?
I was very surprised to learn that you had a Twitter account.
I’ve had Twitter accounts since 2015 or so.
They’ve all been whacked.
All it takes is someone to target one of your comments. That hasn’t changed.
I continue to consider Musk what I have always thought – a trickster figure, unpredictable, and not to be relied upon. That being said, he’s doing some serious good right now and I’m not going to be churlish and refuse to acknowledge it. I’m hopeful, and willing to wait and see.
It would be sad to become so cynical as to think that people cannot change, or that someone I disagree with on some issues (even many issues) can’t ever be right or do anything good. The story of Thomas Becket has always been one of my favorites. There’s redemption to be had, and people do sometimes grasp hold of it even to their detriment in the material world. There’s a spiritual aspect to what is occurring, and that’s where the real battle is being waged. We’re all participating in that battle, whether we realize it or not.
Yep. And people are sometimes quite complex.
I mentioned before that Jason Bermas has some of the best run-downs of the dirt on Musk, and there is plenty, but it is also true that some of his actions really do not line up with what some are certain he is.
Time will tell.
What did you post that got you banned? If it’s nothing then just tell us. It will help make your point.
I don’t answer to incels. Bother someone else.
If I don’t “bother” you, you get jealous and start bothering me.
Pretty sure anyone scrolling through here can see that you can’t make a comment without my name in it.
It’s not the other way ’round.
This confusion might explain why you hate women so much. You can’t even admit to yourself when you’re stalking them, and then when they start getting annoyed by it, you pretend it’s them doing it. Gaslighting 101. Classic narcissism.
Sorta psycho stuff there, little J.
Of course. All the men are stalking you all the time, right? Anthea is an old lady and thinks men are still after her.
What’s with the Mary fixation, Jarek?
@ Jarek:
Men are, from time to time, “after me,” but it has nothing to do with my looks or personal qualities. It is just a case of men looking for a woman to mooch off of, and who will take care of them.
This, for most men, is their lifelong MO. If it has anything at all to do with me, personally, it’s only that I look like a soft touch–which I am not. I’m mostly just too much of a slave to good manners to tell them to find another sucker.
@ Jarek:
Guys would move in with Tugboat Annie if there was a free meal in it for them.
Anthea: Liar. That’s not what you said before.
It absolutely is what Anthea said before.
Your reading comprehension sucks, Jarek.
Mary, your account will be covered under the general amnesty he is considering.
Ha! Sure it will.
I understand the sentiment and seemingly brave and noble position Elon seems to inhabit in the social conversation. However let’s not forget ‘the enemy of my enemy is my friend’
In the same way Trump often looks light a shinning star against the background of darkness, and over the top insanity.
Elon to looks, possibly, a bit more noble than he truly is.
If ever one in power tells you everything you want to hear
If ever one in power pacifies all your fears with a smile
If ever one in power comes in the form of savior in the darkness of night
Be wary you may be being fatted for the slaughter
In Japan dirt is polished into perfect polished spheres. I suppose Elon can do the same thing here, but truth is an elusive mistress Elon can’t woo.
Elon is America’s space oligarch. Pretense at independence is not hard to pull off with America’s ignorant and trusting masses who find truth in a suit. But reality is impossible. Musk dances to, and is paid by the devil. America’s deep state.
Musk’s idea of truth will wind up being a New York Times kind of truth. True 99% of the time. That 99% percent giving respect to occasional deep state Jacobean wardog lies. Lies that give it to you up your ass doggie style. We are helping Ukraine defend itself. Everyone howl at the same time as this truth gets shoved in and twisted. Enjoy.
Looking at tea leaves in a cup floating around can give you any kind of reality you want. The tea leaves say Musk is doing a good job, it must be so. The real truth is no deep state puppet can steer Twitter away from deception. The truth is, as this famous Twitter said.
“We will coup whoever we want! Deal with it.”
So says the deep state puppet.
And now Musk decides what truth is with the power of military contract obligations helping him decide what truth is.
Deal with it.
“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
And who gets the biggest salary from Uncle Sam of all, Elon does.
You would have to be in charge of your own deep state troll farm to think this is ok.
America trusts anything in a suit. The devil wears Armani, and so does Musk.
“And who gets the biggest salary from Uncle Sam of all, Elon does.”
“America trusts anything in a suit. The devil wears Armani, and so does Musk.”
Yes.
I don’t think anyone has evinced trust. But the fact that you don’t trust someone, entirely or at all, doesn’t mean they can’t do something useful from time to time. I don’t know what his motives are, and I’ve said before that I don’t trust him. But, like it or not, twitter is where much of our public conversations take place. Anyone who introduces some level of fairness there, even if it’s just marginally better than previously, is welcome to do so.
Can you post a pic or a link of the spheres? Usually that takes ages as in carbon into diamonds.
Elon often speaks obliquely. Commenting on his marriages and children he said, We aren’t having enough children. We’re dying out.
Obviously humanity isn’t (or wasn’t at least) dying out. By we he was speaking about Us, the Whites.
The denial here is pretty interesting, given most who comment here seemed to get that everything going on in the media is delusion/illusion.
The PTB know this and are many steps ahead.
They got liberals to foam at the mouth at the word “Trump.” Trained like circus seals.
They have people now so desperate to believe there is a hero coming to save us, they latch onto deep-state connected billionaire who identifies as lucifer (see: Halloween, and his Twitter avatar, satan-worshipping mom), is a literal transhumanist, and who pushed the vaxx and everything the establishment wants pushed.
I’m just gobsmacked that people believe that Elon is some sort of proponent of free speech.
I also wonder if Elon has severed ties with the government entities that had stock in and partial (if not total) control of Twitter. We sure aren’t hearing about that.
Just another psyops we’re all fooled into because it’s fun and entertaining. Rinse & repeat.
No revolution succeeds without help from the higher classes. That’s politics 101, a basic theorem like a=a, or a+b=b+a.
Your desire for purity has no place in politics which is an art of the possible, requiring negotiation with people you don’t like and who don’t like you.
It’s good that you don’t vote.
When I’m proven correct, will you admit it? My guess is “no.”
The Twitter situation is better now than it was a year ago at this same time.
He’s not my hero, but Musk is disruptive, and he shook Twitter up for the better.
Mary,
I’m with Beryl of Oyl and RowdyPiglet on this one. There are things I don’t like about Musk, as described in some of my earlier posts. Mary, I thank you for reminding me of one other thing I really don’t like about Musk; he has spoken out in favor of the clot shot (not the mandates, but the shot itself).
But Twitter is better now than it was five weeks ago. From a corporate reorganization perspective, one can almost argue he is moving too fast. But I completely understand that there were so many absolute horrors on the payroll that he had to be big and bold starting on day one (a la the kitchen sink stunt). I have never had a Twitter account. But I am more than willing to see how this levels off with time. It will take time to get the reinstatements right. As many startup companies will typically, eventually hire a professional CEO, I think Musk will eventually do that too. He is stretched too thin to be running Twitter full time. But right now he has spotted some big ticket items to fix. One of these is the code that is used to spot tweets that don’t conform to the narrative and kick them up to the censorship department. This shit has got to stop, whether I’m a Musk fan or not.
It’s perfectly understandable to say that you loathe the sum total of the man who is Elon Musk. Its not reasonable to presume that every single thing about him is wrong or evil. I abhor Bill Gates, but he may have been a good dad to his three kids, and I use Microsoft Word and Excel.
Oh, I don’t loathe him. I just understand who he is and go by what he’s done.
Beryl, no it is not.
It in no way shape or form is any different than it was last year, except for that now I’ve been banned – twice.
Once, without even tweeting.
You are being fooled.
@ mrs_saj:
You should try Libre Office, which is free, and is better than Word. Word is nightmarishly awful for graphics, especially; Libre Office is excellent for that. For Excel, I have always used the spreadsheets on Google Drive–also free. I think the only people who use Microsoft stuff are people who get it free through their work. The (free) GIMP photo-editor is also a lot of fun. I don’t know how it compares to Photoshop, but GIMP has always worked for all my needs.
I absolutely love that Jarek is in love with a practicing satanist.
Some things are just too delicious!
“No revolution succeeds without help from the higher classes.”
Rubbish.
In the French Revolution 1989, the Russian Communist revolution 1917, and the Chinese Communist revolution 1925-1948 were all done with the hoi polloi overthrowing the ‘higher classes.”
I didn’t say that were no pawns. I said help from the higher classes. All of those were funded by Western banker class.
Revolutions take a lot of money. And peasants with pitchforks and workers with hammers will get precisely nowhere on their own – Revolutionary art notwithstanding.
This is a little off topic, but I don’t understand why ANY money is given to ANY company to do research and development. If the companies’ ideas are so great, how about they raise cash only from venture capitalists? From what I understand (which isn’t much), we (the taxpayer) are always giving money to fund startups. Like solar panels that don’t work.
It’s part of the widespread corruption caused by corporate control of the government.
The taxpayers fund the research, including drug research, then the results are handed over to the corporations and they profit by selling it to the people who funded it.
Huh. I tried to link to a blog, but it got sent to moderation. Here is the quote I thought was relevant.
“Most people know that microchips came from government research, but so did microwave ovens. Duct tape, GPS, radar, digital cameras, computers, Superglue, and the internet all came from government research, and now we pay corporations for them. Sometimes, we all told that the trillions we spend on the military is not wasted, because look at the great products we have gained from the research. Insulin pumps and epi-pens were also developed by the military and drug companies are profiting handsomely from that research, as well as other government-funded medical and drug research, which is turned over to the medical-industrial complex.”
It’s one way to launder money, for starters.
Paula, I also get that “being moderated” message when I post a link.
I think it is a quirk of WordPress’s software in combination with some operating systems.
The workaround that I have found is just to substitute XX for the s in https, e.g., httpXX.
I don’t think this moderation message actually means anything is being moderated.
Yes, I usually get around it by leaving out the entire http/www thing.
But I did that this time and got the message.
I agree that there is no one actually moderating. I’m sure that JHK has better things to do with his time.
I wonder if it was because it was a Blogspot link.
Paula, I believe JHK is hosted by WordPress, so he’s somewhat at the mercy of their censorship agenda.
Maybe WordPress is jealous of Blogspot.
Beryl,
Haven’t you noticed that waiting to see what happens and giving benefit of the doubt on this blog immediately turns one into an “X worshipper,” “total fool”: “brainwashed”; “in denial”; etc. etc.
All of which basically translates into “You’re not as smart as me!”
I hope I don’t do that myself.
As far as Musk goes, I am judging by what I see, and there is much I haven’t seen, but there is also much his detractors haven’t seen either.
I take him at face value until I have good reason not to. It isn’t as if my opinion of him can change anything he is going to do anyway.
” It isn’t as if my opinion of him can change anything he is going to do anyway.”
Exactimundo.
So it is a mystery to me why certain folks here so invested in Musk’s failure and in lambasting anyone who has a small spark of optimism concerning the Musk-Twitter scenario. A group that includes our host. .
Don’t worry, Mary is beginning to shift. From above:
“Oh, I don’t loathe him. I just understand who he is and go by what he’s done.”
Last week she called him a scumbag. She’ll never admit she shifts with the group, but she does, at least to some extent.
Hmmm.
Do you think you need to hate someone to call them a scumbag?
Oh Mary, you hate men to begin with, with some race exceptions perhaps. It doesn’t take much to “actualize” that unending spring of hatred in any man’s case.
Even the Dalia Lama…..
correction: rare not race
Starting to think Jarek is retarded.
He is projecting his hatred of most of the human race – mostly blacks but running a close second is women – on the rest of us.
Islander, I admit that I really hate to see that kind of name calling here. Most everyone here is an intelligent person and can do better. I particularly hate to see the “X worshipper” thing, which I’ve been subjected to in real life when pointing out one single, actual, factual thing that someone has undeniably done.
Taking note of, and weighing, the good things that a public figure has done is in no way worshipping them, believing they’re a savior, or pretending they’ve never done anything wrong. If you refuse to acknowledge the value of an action that you would praise if someone else did it, you’ve allowed yourself to become so angry that you’re no longer logical.
It’s a fact of real life that, if you want to accomplish something big, you have to accept help from people you don’t ordinarily agree with and may even, in general, abhor. You don’t accept that help blindly, and you don’t make any deals or exchanges that you might be sorry for later. But, if you’re in the concentration camp and people come to release you, you don’t question whether they’re pure enough, wonder if they’re really your friends, or get your lawyer to draw up an agreement. You keep your eyes open and, if in the end your liberators prove duplicitous, you deal with it.
Musk has done some good things for twitter – not EVERY good thing, but definitely some good things. I, for one, appreciate those things for what they are and no more than that. If he begins to throw his weight around in less desirable ways, I’ll be the first to say so.
Musk has changed Twitter’s direction in a way that has the entire Leftist cancel culture Wolfpack howling in rage and despair.
So, to Musk’s many critics and skeptics here, explain why, exactly, that I’m supposed to believe that’s a bad thing?
Be succinct. Don’t veer away from the specificity of my question.
Otherwise, up a sock in it. You are all full of hot air or are agents of the Wokesters.
Please refute the things I posted about him, above.
Those are enough reason for me to believe he’s a bad actor.
You can think whatever you like, of course.
The claims here that Twitter has improved are based on nothing and made out of thin air.
Nothing has changed, as you can see from what I posted above, which I’m guessing you’re not interested in perusing.
@MaryQueen, I don’t have to refute the things you posted (which I did read) because I didn’t deny them. What I did say is that I judge each action on the basis of whether it does some good, not on the basis of who did it or of my imaginings as to what they could have or might have done. Plenty of good things are done by bad people, and vice versa.
I can’t see that “nothing has changed.” I see people reinstated who were previously banned for no reason other than not being woke. How is that not a change? Again, I didn’t say he did every good thing; I said he did some good things. Clearly, most of the firings were more than deserved. Did he fire every single person I think he should have? Probably not, but a partial win is better than nothing.
I always have trouble understanding why we would downgrade someone’s accomplishments based on what we imagine they could have accomplished, but didn’t. That’s a fantasy. Unless there are strings attached, if someone does a good deed I accept it as such and don’t demand a Certificate of Purity. We have to trust our fellow beings just a wee bit or there’s really no point in trying.
“dirt is polished into perfect polished spheres”
WHAT? dirt polished? Perhaps by canned sunshine complements of the Enola Gay.A great tragedy all the way around.
So we, the readers, are supposed to believe that all of the evils being pushed on the US by the Left–the woke nonsense, bogus vaccines, “trans-gender” hormones and sterilization surgery for children is going to be pushed back. . .by a guy who wants everyone to stop driving cars and trucks powered by internal-combustion engines, and instead buy his electric cars. Electric cars that simply do not work as a replacement for gas-and-diesel powered vehicles because they lack the range and power needed by consumers. Electric cars have been plagued by that exact same problem, lack of range, lack of power, and the need for their very large/heavy/toxic super expensive batteries to be replaced every couple of years from the dawn of the automotive age. Electric cars were around a century ago, they were much worse than gas powered vehicles then, they are much worse now. So a guy pushing “green energy” reliant on government subsidies and outright lies to convince gullible consumers to buy them, will get rid of all the other lies and government funding of nonsense pushed by the Left Wing. Yeah, that makes about as much sense as trying to put a fire out with gasoline. Give me a break.
@dilbert113
“So we, the readers, are supposed to believe that all of the evils being pushed on the US by the Left is going to be pushed back. . .by a guy who wants everyone to stop driving cars and trucks powered by internal-combustion engines, and instead buy his electric cars.”
No one said that, least of all JHK. Expressing some perfectly reasonable gratitude for Musk’s having pushed back against the Woke Police of twitter is in no way claiming he can end all evils.
Has it occurred to you that it’s possible for a human being to be wrong about some things and right about some other things? I don’t think electric cars are the solution to anything, but free speech is the answer to many things. We don’t yet have that on twitter, and perhaps never will, but we do have the return of voices previously silenced – and that’s something to be grateful for. For better or worse, it’s where many people go to have a public discussion and to exchange information. It matters.
I concur.
Ladies and germs;
We have several Medical Doctors that monitor this site. If any have seen the “Death Shot” movie, I would be interested in their perspective.
Hey E. I got possession of a Goose Gun, bolt action Marlin Model 55 12 guage, 36″ barrel. Two of my cousins had it, then my brother, who just gave it to me. Nobody wanted this Long Tom. I figure it might be useful in shooting down low flying drones if it ever came to that.
Or UFO’s. The Alien fears the American Rifleman, the best on this or any other world.
BRH,
Yeah, I’ve owned several of those bolt action Marlins. Do you know that Winchester also made a “goose gun” with an extra long barrel?
The model 12.
The real value of a barrel of extra length is…sight radius.
That goose gun does well at turkey shoots.
Won a 15 lb. turkey with it I believe.
I watched a report from a cardiologist yesterday saying that the culprit for the cardiomyopathy may be the antibody created by the host against the s protein causing inflammation of the muscle of the heart. IOW, the virus itself or the s protein.created by the vaxx is making the host react as almost an autoimmune reaction with heart muscle and blood vessel endothelial tissue as the attack points.
Cardiomyopathy, blood clots are two results of the reactions.
I have wondered for a while if the accumulation of “indestructible or created” s proteins just elevate the risks with each illness or vaxx?
Do s proteins or mRNA “go away” as the scientists say? If not, do they accumulate?
Interesting, the autoimmune angle.
This doctor discusses that in this essay.
/amidwesterndoctor.substack.com/p/what-is-causing-the-explosion-of
@ Paula D:
Excellent link! Thanks!
Elysianfield:
It would be great to have some informed opinion on the evidence shown in “Sudden Death” ((I assume you are talking about that film.)
The evidence shown certainly looks and sounds irrefutable.
I have to say that the “horror movie” and video game-type soundtrack and visuals were a turnoff for me, and makes the film less credible to those who are inclined to resist its message.
In other words (IOW!) the medium is a bit counterproductive for the effectiveness of bringing the message for the audience that needs to see it the most, namely,
“vaxx believers.”
…Yes…”Sudden Death”…thank you.
Agree about production value. Horrible.
They took great footage of the morticians and their findings, and wrapped it in cliched conspiracy theory style wrapping.
One might almost think they did it on purpose. They certainly didn’t target it to the type of audience that should be watching it. Plus they gave lots of fodder to the people critiquing it. Not very smart at all.
I don’t know where “death shot” came from…the movie I was questioning was “Sudden Death”
I apologize.
The narrative is important, so important that there are billions of dollars spent creating and pushing it, and the censoring and banning of dissidents is so widespread.
So I give props to Musk for changing the narrative back to the absolute importance of free speech in society. The change in the rhetoric might remind people of the old narrative, the ‘I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it’ belief, which was widely held in society.
Except he says that but doesn’t do it. Please see my post, above.
Yeah, I agree.
Unfortunately we are at the stage in our dissolution where hypocritically standing up for free speech is better than the current all-out attacks on free speech, critical thinking and independent research.
Not if it backfires.
That’s pretty much what I’m predicting.
Dear Mr. Kuntsler, you deserve a Noble Prize for this column. If for nothing else. Sincerely, rex m. lesicka
Sometimes the best crusaders are reformed true believers.
.youtube.com/watch?v=vw7YXUZ1SL0
Thanks for the link.
Yes, he is an effective communicator.
Glad to see that this talk was held at Friends House in London.
About the “big man” syndrome,
If anything is possible that is going to tear down the Mob in this country, it is going to involve lots of “big men and women” with lots of money. Trump was a single man trying to do it, not enough ooomph. It is going to take another party created with enough horsepower to win an election. The GOP cannot do it and as long as the “big men and women” think that the GOP is the answer, the Uniparty is inevitable. It is going to take a large group of power folks to undo the damage of both parties during the past forty years.
Trump cannot do it by himself, nor Musk, nor Bezos, nor Abbott, nor DeSantis, nor Doucy nor any single power person. Organize them into a party with the aim being the tear down of the swamp might be a way out of the mess.
Yes. To start a real third party would actually require the input of multiple billionaires in our current system.
It’s refreshing to have a blog that allows its minions a chance to try to demonstrate their moxie. Keeps ’em off the streets where they could do some real damage.
The people in here who write and comment are the exact opposite of the people who are causing problems in the streets. You sir, are delusional and misinformed.
Lol tom
Tom doesn’t like it here.
Spent Thanksgiving with some NPR indoctrinated liberals. Biden’s Inflation Reduction Act is a good thing. Climate Change (human caused) is real. At one point I implied that Dementia Joe’s anti-oil rhetoric was bogus and switching over to solar and wind was wishful thinking at its worst. One of them wouldn’t talk to me for the rest of the evening. It is worrying and even frightening to be around these types.
The horror…The Horror!
I wrote mine off a long time ago. They don’t contact me and I’ve got nothing to do with them. Life is too short to spend any of it in the company of idiots.
” It is worrying and even frightening to be around these types.”
I agree.
It is the 150% conviction of being right, of there being no alternative to their view of things, which they think is original to them, and the haughtiness and hubris of their conviction of superiority that is mind-blowing. These folks have, simply, no doubts.
You cannot get through to them.
Occasionally I have gotten through. I mention that the climate at the time of Christ was a little warmer than now. Cooler during the Dark Ages. Then there was the Medieval Warming Period. As warm as the peak of the Roman Empire. Then came the Little Ice Age of the 1600s. And we are now in another warming period. Solar scientists say we are entering another Grand Solar Minimum which will be again like the Little Ice Age
Then I ask if those climate changes were all caused by increases and decreases of co2? I have gotten a few to consider changing their minds. On the other hand some get angry and stop talking to you.
I’m surprised you were able to get to the stage of presenting an argument. It’s my firm belief that they know perfectly well they can’t enter into a debate as they have no argument to make. They have only two options: 1) call you a fascist or shout UNCLEAN! in the hope of making you an outcast or 2) get mad and refuse to talk or listen.
I have never yet encountered a single one who would engage in anything like a debate.
“NPR indoctrinated liberals”
Great phrase!
The joke is that exactly this type of person is positive he/she knows more than others.
A “delusion” that is very well described by a commenter here:
httpXX://rumble.com/v1wycsi-danger-anti-vaccine-thoughts-are-a-mental-illness-requiring-treatment.html
“Those who have been indoctrinated into academia find it the hardest to question authority and tyranny, because they are mentally enslaved into a system that makes them all think inside the box. ***They truly believe they are far more superior intellectually when in actual fact most of them can’t see basic common sense, logic and rationality. It’s pretty simple to get, but most academics’ common sense, logic and rationality is mentally blinkered and imprisoned inside the box that they truly believe is real intellectual superiority. We mere mortals like myself can’t question and hold them accountable, because we are deemed inferior. They fear what’s outside the box because it questions their intelligence and superiority. They haven’t got the minerals to stand outside the box alone out of the fear of being banished, ridiculed and the fear of the loss of their job status . If these weak people can’t stand up and be counted for and want to follow medical tyranny once again then in my humble opinion they should be thrown in prison for crimes against humanity.”
It’s the patronizing sense of superiority that really annoys me–and fo course this hubris mixed with “pity” for those who see things differently is a major element in their defense structure.
Everyone I frequently associate with thinks as I do about most subjects. Sometimes I have to associate with those who don’t, but they are always tactful enough to keep their mouths shut.
My oldest daughter was a respiratory therapist throughout the “pandemic” and was a covid “true believer.” Even she has come around. Once she left the hospital environment for another job, she realized that there was no pandemic. She discouraged her son from getting the jab, despite having had two jabs herself.
The only real crazies within my orbit are my daughter’s in-laws, whom I only see on holidays (if then). They don’t talk about this stuff in my presence. I don’t know if their motive for this is kindness to an old woman or fear of a smart-mouthed old woman.
The reason they stop talking is because they suddenly find themselves embroiled in a bona fide DEBATE where they find themselves unarmed with facts, logic, or the intelligence to prevail.
The only reasonable thing to do in such a circumstance to save face is to withdraw from the contest and then virtue signaling by pretending that your withdrawal was not an act of cowardice and weakness, but one of high principle.
Smart people see through this prude and no better. We laugh at them in their moment of shame.
Jesus…what the hell happened to my final sentence? That is not what I typed. Damned spell checker……ugh!
It should have read: “Smart people see through this pose and know better.”
I applaud Elon Musk’s championing of free speech. That one of the richest men in the world is using a significant part of his fortune to restore true diversity of viewpoints to the masses is astounding, but I will hold off crowning Elon a saint or prophet. Elon is after all part of the green lie business and he does have contracts with the pentagon. Could Elon be positioning himself as one of the key characters of the next American narrative?
I prefer Elon to the alternatives at this particular point. I have a feeling the green thing will wane with time. Perhaps some should reach out to him to engage on that topic. There isn’t enough lithium in the world is maybe a good start? He might think about harvesting it from asteroids or something lol. But we aren’t really doing that good here so why not get that right first.
Has anyone considered the possibility that Elon has glimpsed the waning of the green narrative and is preparing to bail out early into something else? Namely, social media? While he still has name recognition?
If Bill Gates were actually smart, and not a prisoner of some kind of brainwashing and mental abuse from his parents, he would be thinking along similar lines. Instead of competing with Darth Vader to be Vader 2.0.
I’ve actually considered that possibility. I do recall headlines right before his purchase of twitter that tesla stock was declining and he suffered losses from tesla. And purchasing twitter is a really big deal because now he is basically the megaphone. Bill Gates is not on the same plane as Elon so he is unable to think that far ahead imo.
I suspect that Elon knows about the lithium problem. But it is only a problem if your intention is to replace every ICE vehicle in the world with a Tesla EV.
Musk has no such intention. He knows Tesla autos are merely playthings for people of means. He is simply liberating those people of some of their cash. That is his actual goal.
Some folks take all that visionary marketing propaganda too seriously.
Regarding “the wholesale demolition of truths, values, and principles,” I recently saw – and I am not making this up – a video clip titled “Brazilian deaf trans woman sings Whitney Houston’s “I Will Always Love You”
Clearly this person faces challenges in life, including confused sexual identity and, of course, being deal and mute. Such a person deserves everyone’s kindness and compassion.
But there are still objective truths in this world. In gown and tiara this person makes a dreadful looking “woman” and, never having had the benefit of hearing the human voice, it is understandable that their “singing” sounds like a hound dog baying at the moon.
In a world of “truths, values, and principles” it would be cruel to put this person on a TV talent show with judges and a live audience, but in today’s America both are obliged to pretend to regard “her” as beautiful and wonderful.
Human society requires both truth and beauty for life to be worthwhile. Things of this sort make a mockery of both. All woke persons would surely agree that I am a terrible bastard for calling bullshit on this, but someone must, and I do.
I saw that. It was absolutely painful to the ears.
But to the mind the most painful part was the cheering of the audience.
WTF is wrong with people? They were clearly brainwashed enough to clap and cheer when there was no one forcing them to do it.
He couldn’t hear them anyhow, to make it even more ridiculous.
Or perhaps you’re a terrible bastard for reasons not given here lol?
SSL
Or perhaps you have nothing to contribute to this conversation.
Kinda like the people who voted for the Fetter man. What are they thinking? Yea, the guy stroked out. Sorry, but it happens. He has no place being a US Senator. Give him a mop.
“Give him a mop.”
Actually that would be a step up. The world needs floor sweeps. Perhaps President Potatohead can be chief bucket filler and water boy. SloJoe can probably handle that as long as Dr. Jill can keep his butt wiped.
Good comparison. Either way, wokeness requires that we pretend up is down and black is white, and end up with everything from the arts to government going down the shitter, while they applaud.
The genocide of the men in Ukraine is apparently targeted at the ethnic Russians who don’t live in eastern Ukraine. Only 30 men from Livov, which is heavily Nazi.
://t.me/CyberspecNews/13273
In Ukraine, by order of the office of President Vladimir Zelensky, a general mobilization is taking place in Russian-speaking regions.
A representative of the Russian law enforcement agencies in the Kherson region said a general mobilization is taking place in Russian-speaking regions. At the same time, it practically does not affect the western regions of the country.
Recall that earlier in the Verkhovna Rada, by decree of the current president of the country, the term of general mobilization and martial law on the territory of Ukraine was extended until February 19 next year.
“Sources in the Ukrainian military say that general mobilization takes place mostly only in the Russian-speaking regions of the country. For example, in the Cherkasy, Nikolaev and Dnepropetrovsk regions, as well as in Kiev – Ukr controlled part of the Zaporizhia region,” the law enforcement agencies added.
It is specified that by order of representatives of the Kiev regime, mobilization is practically not carried out in the western regions of Ukraine. In particular, about 30 people were mobilized in Lvov, and 40 in Ivano-Frankivsk.
According to sources among the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in this way the Zelensky regime wants to solve the problem of destroying the potentially dangerous Russian-speaking population of the east and south of the country.”
Many of the Azovs were revealed to be Russian. How does that fit into your narrative? Not very well. Many people have Putin’s race neutral Fascism and want him to be more for his own people.
long ago someone said something like,
everywhere the black man goes hes sinking and the white man is improving. who said this?
Don’t know. Obama’s cousin in Africa said similar things.
like around 1800s..Jefferson or someone famous.
blacks bring things down was it in essence.
Robert E Lee said that in a letter to his son after the Civil War, commenting on the redevelopment of Virginia.
History has proven Marse Robert’s observation to be an accurate one.
This is why history is now being re-written by the Marxist liars.
I hope these poor souls have the chance to give themselves up to the Russians ASAP without getting shot in the back, or the head, by Ukrainian enforcers at the front.
Best if they can make their way to Russia-held territory and thence to Russia.
Anyone who doubts the punishment the Russians are meting out to Ukraine—richly deserved, IMO—can head over the the Saker (Vineyard of the Saker) to see recent videos and a very poignant commentary on the recent history that has led to this horrifying state of affairs in the Ukraine: raped, bled, soon to be left for dead by “the West”—fortunately Russia will pick up the pieces for the civilians left in the wasteland.
I remember back near the beginning when 30 members of a Ukie unit tried surrender to the Russians.
They radioed them to say they wanted to surrender and the Russians said they would meet them at a certain time.
Apparently NATO was monitoring the radio.
At the appointed time, as the 30 men came out to surrender, a truck drove up and Azoz or Right Sector enforcers got out and shot them all.
I really hate those nazis.
Remember the massacre of 22,000 Polish military men in the Katyn forest, perpetrated by Nazis according to Allied propaganda – but actually perpetrated by you people?
Do you think if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth?
Yeah, you got that from your hero Goebbels.
It’s actually not a thing to people who aren’t stupid and gullible, though, so stop trying it on me.
That applies to the “Holodomor” also, just so you know.
Total Bullshit That I Don’t Believe, no matter how many True Believers tell me that I must join their gullible group and believe with them.
Yeah…right. I don’t want to be a part of the Stupid Group.
What is “you people” supposed to mean?
And what is the “you people” comment’s relevance to the current thread?
For some perspective I recommend a brief trip over to the Saker blog to get a refresher course on the current conflict, and a reminder that the Soviet Union no longer exists.
Paula is a Russian Communist. She was open about this in her previous incarnation here some years ago.
Ask her about Solzhenitsyn if you don’t believe me. Or the Holodomor as per above.
She’s simply insane on the whole subject of Communism, especially Russian Communism.
What’s the significance? It’s my thread and she responded. What is the significance of your comment on my thread?
Paula D. is living in a fantasy world, Jarek. No serious historian today disputes that the massacre of Polish officers at the Karyn Forest was an act perpetrated by the Soviets. Just because the Nazi’s were the first to discover the crime after Operation Barbarossa began and then broadcast to the world what they found does not mean the facts were wrong, only that the people telling us about Katy’s were not the world’s preferred messengers.
The fabrication of a story is often unnecessary for the creation of a good propaganda story. Sometimes your enemy steps on his dick and hands you a bona fide gift wrapped war crime as grist for your mill.
Dear JHK Admin,
Well, I am not as sanguine as you about the way that Twitter will rebound from the “censoring” to which it has been subjected. The question I have is how will it be able to deal with inflammatory speech that targets groups, minority or otherwise; or, the correlative conspiracy theory nonsense that teems everywhere in the Internets? If it is a free-for-all, I will be interested to see what happens when someone acts out the sentiments of some individual or group twitter user(s) with many followers at the point of a gun or guns. I am guessing that Elon will just send his sympathies and ignore the negative externalities of his company’s actions, by imposing the costs of these actions on society. After all, conspiracies are exciting and bring eyeballs to Twitter and that increases opportunities for profit. And if you are going to make a profit, you need eyeballs, negative externalities be damned. And Elon is a capitalist in search of profit, so society paying those costs (rather than he who produced them) means better profit for him.
From a purely capitalist POV, I have no problem with Elon Musk’s economic handling of Twitter as a self-centred capitalist. He is acting like a late stage capitalist–increasing the level of extraction out of the workers who are opting to stay to raise the rate of profit. It will be interesting to see if the post Covid generation will embrace the capitalist mentality that Elon wants them to embrace. Will they accept a level of exploitation and alienation required to make Twitter a profitable enterprise? Will the money he offers them be enough to get them to join? Or will the Reserve Army of Unemployment help Elon here?
As someone who lives in society though, subject to these negative externalities, I dislike his approach.
You are always going to have to live with negative externalities if you live in a society. So the choice is what negative externalities you can live with.
What you have just written, as far as I can interpret it, is that you don’t believe in free speech or the first amendment. You seem instead to be totally focused on safety. The way this ends is you (and the rest of us) will neither have free speech nor will you be safe.
The assertion that reading words on the internet causes insane young men on SRIs to take up guns and shoot people is patently ridiculous, but it is a favorite of our owners.
Anyone with a brain rejects that as absurd.
There is a pattern of young people who spent all their time on the internet watching porn, playing video games and in chat rooms have killed other young people and their families, it’s not reported much though. Also a common denominator is an addiction to screens in general (usually horror films, and that genre in general), video games, and also SSRIs.
Violent video games are pushed by the Establishment, in order to desensitize boys and make them willing killers.
That is not what Paid-By-The-Keystroke wants to ban. His owners are down with that. They are the ones who produce it and make it available. Same with porn.
He wants to ban people who misgender trannies.
I’m not at all sure that Musk’s twitter venture is entirely or even largely about profit. He has other sources that are more reliable. He seems to be enjoying stirring the pot and sticking pins into some people who clearly need the air let out of them. It’s quite possible that blatantly unfair censorship of undeniable truths is as offensive to him as it is to many of us.
I don’t buy into the theory that inflammatory speech is the cause of anyone’s “acting out.” We’re all responsible for what we do with what we read and hear. If you physically harm others, it’s because you wanted to, not because someone’s inflammatory speech gave you permission.
“I don’t buy into the theory that inflammatory speech is the cause of anyone’s “acting out.” We’re all responsible for what we do with what we read and hear. ”
This *used to be* a basic principle of psychology and almost many types of therapy. Letting your buttons get pushed is giving others power over you. Maturity means learning to control your emotions and your reactions.
This whole idea has been stood on its head via the “trigger” and “safe spaces” ideas. It is truly regressive in terms of developmental psychology. It is rewarding people for never growing up.
@Islander, I’ve often wondered why we don’t make better (or, indeed, any) use of the left’s psychological deficits. Their buttons are too numerous to count, and it’s nearly impossible to have any interaction without triggering them and sending them fleeing to a safe space.
I’ve often pointed out (only half jokingly) that Trump could have eliminated his enemies by saying that he recommended continuous breathing for all his friends and followers, and that nothing made him more angry than seeing people holding their breath.
The idea that others determine your actions by what they say is so entrenched now that few people challenge it. The belief is that people have no agency at all, and are as suggestible as if they were in a permanent state of hypnosis (which perhaps some are), even being physically damaged by others’ words.
It may be a bit diabolical to consider taking advantage of their mental deficits, but I’m willing to go there. They’ve done enough damage and we should consider going nuclear.
I had a meme that showed Trump saying “Oxygen is good. I recommend that people breathe it” with a picture of a liberal holding their nose and saying “Not today, Satan!”.
After the mask mandate it was no longer funny.
The blue bird will tweet about Russian aggression. Certainly not about Crimea and the Donbass in Eastern Ukraine being Russian-speaking lands that never should have been Ukrainian in the first place. That is what the deep state wants and that is what Elon will give them.
Paid-by-the-keystroke earns thousands of dollars by giving a wordy apology for censorship and against free speech.
His masters must be proud.
Oh, the horror, if someone is called a name they don’t like.
It might start a whole war or something.
Another highly articulate and hopeful blog, despite its being overly optimistic IMO. Looking at the last couple hundred years of communist takeovers, Russia, Vietnam, Cambodia, China, Venezuela, to name a few, it is clear that once communists get power they fix elections so as to stay in power until killed. I don’t see the current communists, that have taken over Amerika, just giving up and saying , ‘oh, too bad, we lost the election, let’s leave now.’ No way. They are here to stay until killed. And few amerikans have the balls to kill them.
Americans have trouble identifying them. They operate under many different labels.
I doubt AOC has any clue at all that she’s fronting for communists.
The lizards in skin suits are the worst.
They aren’t really Communists, but there are some similarities in terms of tactics.
It amazes me how few seem to be familiar with the Technocratic movement.
As I said up-thread, I was gobsmacked to realize that none of the adult family members at the Thanksgiving table had ever heard of Klaus Schwab or the WEF.
Nothing surprising about that. My Dem family members think theirs is the party of FDR. Look for the union label! No child labor! Desegregation! They have no idea.
One word explanation: Apathy
She’s an actress hired by “Justice Democrats” aka Cenk Uygur, since disbanded.
I’m not sure that “communists” is the right word, unless one actually means that American politicians are under the power of the Chinese Communist Party.
Although arguments can be made that this is the case, i don’t think that that is what commenters mean here when they say “communists.”
You don’t have to be a “communist” to impose totalitarian restrictions.
I just watched Polly St. George’s video on the new psychiatric guidelines being crafted and put into place in Canada to diagnose those who want medical exemptions from the shots as suffering from anxiety bordering on “bizarre delusions” and medicating them. If they continue “depressed” or “anxious” then they can be offered Canada’s expanding euthanasia option.
httpXX://rumble.com/v1wycsi-danger-anti-vaccine-thoughts-are-a-mental-illness-requiring-treatment.html
In this context she cites as historical background the (mis)use of medicine and psychiatry to incarcerate and forcibly medicate political dissidents in the USSR.
They were “diagnosed” with “sluggish schizophrenia.” I know quite a lot about this because I worked on a manuscript on this subject. There were special asylums where these drugged-up dissidents were held.
Here in the USA, far from the reach of communists, in 1851 slaves who attempted to flee captivity were diagnosed as suffering from a made-up mental disease, drapetomania. Because, why would any African not want to be a slave? Obviously, a slave to attempts to escape is nuts. Especially if they do it repeatedly and don’t respond well to the treatment of being whipped.
httpXX://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drapetomania
At least genuine Communists had or started out with some kind of social ideal to raise up the masses.
Our current crop of medical totalitarians have no ideals whatsoever except to make a lot of money and, along with their elite and WEF pals, to be the only ones to enjoy life on planet Earth.
One of the many mind-boggling things about the last few years is WTF happened to Canada and Australia? Apart from a few brave truckers, they went from supposed democracies to quasi-totalitarian states with nary a protest:
Certainly Canada, Australia, and New Zealand, also the UK all have leaders hand-picked and inserted by the WEF
Macron is also a WEFer.
But, Switzerland, too, is unleashing medical tyranny. I don’t know who is the head of the Swiss govt, but it is home to the Schwab monster himself. Eeek.
Complacency made what happened in the other English speaking nations possible. Their parliamentary systems had never before been subverted and perverted to their detriment in such fashion before. Normalcy bias prevented folks in Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and the U.K. from perceiving that the COVID pandemic was being used as a tool by a ruthless cabal of power hungry WEF elites to rob them of liberties they had taken for granted since the Magna Carta was signed. By the time things were truly bad it was too late to do much about it short of armed Revolution but…..oops…..that wasn’t really an option either because no 2nd Amendment in those countries. Instead, they have strict gun control. So 4 of the “5 Eyes” were well and truly screwed.
Lesson for America: NEVER give up our firearms.
“They are here to stay until killed. And few amerikans have the balls to kill them”
ND, That is not really an option, unless one does not mind spending life in prison. You can’t fight the machine.
What if the Colonial Americans had your attitude of give up and live on your knees? You are exactly the example I was insinuating.
Well Doc you talk a good game but will your crew be the first to draw blood? I doubt it. I don’t live on my knees. I just tend to my own shit and say fuck-it to everybody else.
Colonial Americans fought a machine that was 3 thousand miles away and about 6 weeks away communication wise, Our world is a little bit smaller I’m afraid. The machine is watching you as we speak.They know where you and your loved ones live. BOO!
You have no idea who I am and with whom I am associated. peasant!
Peasent? Sorry ,oh noble one. Why piss on me? That’s rich. All this time I thought we were on the same team. From your posts I would expect more. Just your handle tells me you are a medical whatdoyacallit? An over edumacated asshole perhaps?
Articulate and HIGHLY hopeful blog.
Too many Americans believe too much of the mainstream media, because American journalism is always objective, you know.
Elon Musk is very intelligent, and has done well for himself.
His contrarianism is useful at this time, but he is a WEF boy, so I’ll hold my applause for now.
How many people are on the right side of the big issues of our time?
The need to end and COVID vax mandates, and investigate the people who pushed them?
The need to investigate the rise in deaths in the 20-60 year olds?
The need for the US to stop fueling the war in Ukraine?
Not many.
And in Michigan, they just enshrined mail-in ballot measures that will compromise elections.
“The really stunning thing about Elon Musk’s campaign to clean up the back-stage rats’ nest at Twitter is that he’s the lone authority figure in the land who dared to act against the degenerate political Left’s impudent and remorseless cancellation of everything that held together America’s consensual reality.”
When one has no intelligence, backbone, personal integrity or inner strength… one gives in to The Tyranny of the Group. It’s all a sick game of Follow The Leader and Simon Says. With Simon being the WEF and WHO and BIS and all the other global groups of misfits and bullies and poorly-developed adolescent brains and psychopaths. Just follow the Leader… don’t ask questions… don’t think… don’t question your own or Their motives… just wrap yourselves around a conjured, phony, twisted anti-righteousness and work tirelessly to fully codify and institutionalize your deviancy and pathology into Society. And then… demonize and un-person anyone who dares not to adopt your lunacy and personal depravity.
“…whatever Twitter started out as, however seemingly trivial this Internet app for social chit-chat was conceived to be, it evolved into an essential arena for public argument…”
Perhaps it was this for a time. But that time has passed, and the need for anything resembling a Twitter is over. The Planet has existed for millions of years before this high-tech monstrosity of a phony town square came along. And the Planet will prosper once this and other sewer-pipes of anti-social media are send to the tech graveyard of bad ideas. We need a place to share ideas and information. But what passes for ‘social media’ platforms right now is like trying to deliver good food from the back of a filthy garage truck. All that can come out of there is stuff that stinks and it’s good for you.
“It’s hard to overstate how damaging Twitter’s dark years of insidiously massaging public opinion have been to this country.”
One must point out that a Twitter-style tech monstrosity was going to come forth as a very useful tool for the Deep Dark State Predators. They want you to give them a juicy database filled with tidbits of information about you and the darkness of your soul so They can use all this against you. In other words, users of such sewer sites are providing the Dark State with all the rope They need to hang you.
“The scope of this bureaucratic crime is really outside the experience of most Americans, who never imagined that their elected and appointed leaders would act against them with such rank dishonesty, cruelty, and bad faith.”
Why would Americans want to think the best about Those Who Plan Nothing But Misery For Them? Probably this is yet another Mommy-and-Daddy fixation where you want to have the innocence of a child in thinking that Mommy-and-Daddy love you and would never do anything to harm you. And that is a well-established lie and falsehood in the realm of Santa Claus thinking.
“Reality is a harsh mistress when you’ve spent years insulting and mistreating her.”
One cannot mistreat Reality. Reality thrives even in the darkest of days. The only thing that people who do not honor Reality insult and mistreat is themselves.
They can use all this against you. In other words, users of such sewer sites are providing the Dark State with all the rope They need to hang you.
That is being paranoid. That kind of fear will make you inert. That kind of fear prevents any of you here from commenting on my website. That kind of fear makes a chain like this which can grow a thousand comments long being authored by 20 monikers and perhaps a dozen ‘real’ people.
Why do you want to encourage people being inert. We got diabetes and heart problems we are so inert. People don’t communicate enough to make decent opinions. 95% of people are spectators. The 5% can change the world if they communicate.
I’m betting if somebody started following you around you could not get over it. Man up and get some courage.
K-Chien…
Do you doubt the validity and truth of Deep State wanting to collect all kinds of data about you? There is a difference between being paranoid and being prudent. Deep State saves EVERYTHING and this has nothing to do with our own personal opinion about what They are doing this and why. They are doing this for their own purposes and rest assured it is not in our best interest, but Theirs alone.
And no one who comments on this site and others like it are being inert. Those who muzzle themselves are acting cowardly and weak.
Yes, society has plenty of physical and mental health problems because modern Woke Life is TOXIC to human life. State media… bad food and drink… conjured racial tensions… unresolved personal problems due to growing up in a stressful and injurious environment… toxic medical injections… on and on.
I agree that people need courage. I would also point out that no one lacks courage who posts on this website and those like it.
I would also ask why you would go to a default position that I lack courage. What in you would frame things this way without thinking of alternatives? This is meant as an honest question and not a challenge in any way.
There is no physical town square anymore. People now communicate from the comfort of their own homes.
I agree that Twitter, Facebook and Google were set up to monitor us. They were also set up to serve as large focus groups, to monitor our reactions to their bullshit, so that they could finetune it to better go over.
But it is also true that once we plebes were turned loose into the wonders of free speech and communication across the planet, we used it to spread news, information, opinions and reactions with each other.
Yeah, our overlords can use social media to gauge our reactions to their bullshit, but we also have each other to fact check. Within hours any particular piece of propaganda has people pointing out the lies and the photo shops and the ridiculous claims they are making.
This is dangerous to their rule, which is why we have gone through 6 years of anti-free speech propaganda, coupled with censorship and bannings.
I support free speech, period.
Paula D: “I support free speech, period.”
Life can sometimes appear complex when it can actually be quite simple.
In this case, anything that is ‘Free’ is Life-Affirming. Anything that denies freedom in any manner and form is Life Denying. Humans prosper in environments that are free and life-affirming. And humans are harmed and become damaged and sick when circumstances are restrictive and freedom-denying.
‘They’ have know this for a very long time. It’s time for more of We the People to catch up.
And those who now fear and ‘hate’ freedom today are on exactly the wrong course and direction for themselves and the Planet.
I agree with most of this. I don’t agree that FB, Twitter, and Google were setup from the get-go to monitor us. I think they were started for the usual reasons that all Internet companies were started: The desire to make one hell of a lot of money and to make it fast.
However, once they were successful, going concerns, it did not take the overlords of these platforms long to realize that social media was a goldmine of endless data collection that could be analyzed and monetized for marketing purposes.
Soon, private investigators, insurance investigators, cops, and lawyers realized the value of the data being collected as a way to snoop on people effortlessly.
From there, it was a very short leap indeed for the intelligence community, (and thus governments everywhere), to latch on to the social media companies and turn them into the world’s greatest state security surveillance snoops – thus paving the way to the techno-tyranny marriage between government and industry.
As is usually the case, the law of unintended consequences has been at play here. The Internet and all that it has spawned has turned out to be a vast Pandora’s Box. It cannot be closed unless the grid, (and civilization with it), goes kaput.
One should not ever give governments much credit for inventing things. Clever private individuals invent everything. Government bureaucrats simply come along after the fact and hijack anything they discover to be useful to them in enhancing their own power.
You are right Shaman, nobody here is inert. At least fingers are moving.
I know the Deep State collects all kinds of data. But what can they do with all this data. I am not doing anything criminal or anything to be ashamed of. So what could the deep state do? Tell everyone I have a ten inch cock?
Oh shit, now everybody knows.
Okay Dog, 10 inches or centimeters? You queers in Seattle went metric years back no? That’s what she said anyway. A man can dream though.
By the way, ranks beside, I like your website.
“The scope of this bureaucratic crime is really outside the experience of most Americans, who never imagined that their elected and appointed leaders would act against them with such rank dishonesty, cruelty, and bad faith.”
Very true.
Even now, there are many who cannot admit what is in plain site – the wannabe overlords are out of the closet, telling everyone what they want to do.
Are they frightened, stupid or just living a clueless existence?
A stress response of supplication. An ignorant clueless existence based on unfounded trust. The ignorance does not come from stupidity. No man admits to being stupid. It is cultivated by daily life.
A stress response of supplication is bending over and taking it.
Sort of like rolling up your sleeve and taking it.
I think they have kinda been clueing people in in batches. And the batches have been really big lately. But still there is like an ocean of cluelessness out there. I don’t think they are frightened, stupid, or clueless. They are executing their plans and trying to manage the consequences and outcomes if you ask me. Not all of the lords are with them is what it seems?
The propagandist for censorship has appeared early (making money for the weekend no doubt) to give us his owners’ stance on allowing the proles to speak.
They’re against it. “Negative externalities” he tells us. If proles can speak freely among ourselves we might be less likely to fall for the bullshit the bosses tell us to believe.
Ironically, on MoA, a poster addressed the same issue. MoA, like CFN, is a place of free speech.
Free speech to our masters is like the singing of the deaf trannie in Brazil to us. They don’t want to hear it or allow it.
But I liked the strong defense this guy gave.
“As for us here at MoA, where you are about ten times more likely to discover what’s going on in the world than in any medium of the dominant class- than the New Yorker, The Guardian, BBC or even the favoured forums of the intelligentsia such as the Reviews of Books, The Economist or Foreign affairs- here, as in a democracy, anyone can contribute. And just about anything which is not totally irrelevant or offensively obscene, is allowed. Every kind of eccentricity is permitted. The voices of communists are in constant struggle with those of fascists, liberals are welcome. Those who hate Russia are heard from. Those who hate Putin are listened to. Those who believe the SMO is a disaster have a forum.
But so do those who believe that all is proceeding according to plan.
And there are no qualifications demanded of contributors. There is no literacy requirement, no Academic Degrees or resumes of experience, closeness to power or personal beauty are judged. All that matters is how close the poster comes to the truth, which , in the end, and usually sooner rather than later, is invariably revealed.
That is the way that democracy works- everyone gets to express opinions and they are judged by the minds they change. Or fail to change.
The forums that we are in competition with-heavily moderated in many cases- featuring politicians, ‘insiders’ with sources near power, experts with degrees dripping from them, career security and personal wealth, are wrong today: check them out. They have been wrong for years and they will be wrong tomorrow.
Of course the primary reason for this is that they are propaganda outlets. But the basis of any propaganda is the idea, of its sponsors and manufacturers, that it is necessary for experts and ‘good’ people to counter the misinformation that comes from an uninformed populace.
And here we are, for the most part representative of that populace-nobody is paid, nobody has a scholarship to finance his studies, most of us are just ordinary people. And not necessarily very honest either.
But the result is what matters and here, at the end of a thread you will generally get a sense of what is actually happening in the world.
And it is not what the Professors, Generals, Ministers and Clergy tell us. It is generally exactly the opposite.
And that is why democracy, rather than rule by wealthy, clever, educated, thoughtful, certifiably respectable elites, is the system that will save us and the planet.
“Come, Let Us Reason Together..” the Bible suggested. And in places like this, we do and the truth, dripping with mud and shit, blood and booze, spite and envy, madness and idiocy, emerges.”
What’s MoA?
Moon of Alabama dot org
Actually, it’s all one word. moonofalabama
I have been banned at MoA.
No idea why but I think it is becuase I suggested that a certain commenter was a troll of some kind.
That was a couple of years ago, and since then no comment of mine has ever seen the light of day. So, I don’t bother to try anymore.
That said, I agree that MoA is basically a free speech zone.
Bernhard, who runs it, does have his quirks, though . . .
Wow. that actually amazes me. Sorry about that.
You can still get a lot of info by reading the comments though.
I go there every day to find out what’s going on in the SMO.
Yes, I do check in, and occasionally I post a short comment, just to see what happens.
I also tried a different email address and handle, but nothing goes through.
I am not enough of a techie to speculate on other reasons for the inability to comment.
I do like Bernhard’s guidelines:
“Please stick to the topic. Contribute facts. ***Do not attack other commentators.***
BTW, I didn’t consider my troll comment an attack, since a number of commenters were accusing one another of being trolls. This was early days of covid. I think the covid thing freaked out Bernhard, as he is a hypochondriac and also heavy smoker.
“Alternatives” such as Bernhard and the Saker who landed obviously on the wrong side of the covid story have not that I know of been able to back down and admit anything.
Yes, he is still on the vaccine bandwagon. I know this because someone posted a tweet of his saying that vaccines never were meant to provide immunity.
Say what? I don’t know how people can be so aware about some things and so clueless about others.
Didn’t he ban people for being antivaxxers? Or am I misremembering?
Could be.
I think so.
The Saker was/is also a rabid covid cultist.
Weird.
I don’t know about MoA, but The Saker is full on pro-Vaxx. He’s much less tolerant of criticism too. I find his material far less balanced than MoA’s.
That was just plain great.
I liked it also. Much better than the censorship demands by Hustled.
TG (Thank God).
F. Willam Engdahl on Patrick Henningsen’s show discussing how “Peak Oil” is a fraud invented by the globocap/WEF cult:
https://tntradio.live/shows/patrick-henningsen-show/
Perhaps one of our resident climate/resource cultists is interested.
Book recommendation: Myths Lies and Oil Wars, which covers how the concept of fossil fuels was created by the Technocracy movement to further the control agenda.
An abiotic oiler. With secret Cold-War Russian studies evidencing that oil is like lava erupting right out of the center of the Earth.
Goodreads:
“The book details revolutionary new scientific work developed in Cold War secrecy in the Soviet Union which proved that oil originates not from dinosaur detritus or fossilized algae as western geology mythology maintains. The Soviet scientists showed that oil and gas have deep Earth origins some 200 km below. Like volcanoes, hydrocarbons are forced upwards until they typically are “trapped” in reservoir rock formations. The Russian work has been the target of a concerted campaign to discredit the theory. Little wonder. Were its implications understood widely, oil and gas would be considered as virtually a renewable energy and our energy crises and wars a thing of the past.”
A sucker’s born every day.
Why not share the salient points, Night? The revolutionary evidence for abiotic oil the book contains?
The most absurd part of his premise is the idea that IF abiotic oil theory were to not only have some small factual basis, but to reveal that oil is essentially “a renewable resource” at current consumption levels (the second most absurd part), that IN THIS CASE, global powers have actually known oil supply was infinite for decades, but have hidden the fact to excuse wars, and continued to seek new oil fields IN HARD TO REACH PLACES ACROSS THE GLOBE instead of just re-drilling all over Texas for instance to tap into all that oil that just fills right back up after extraction.
Hilarious.
Your post is indeed hilarious.
More caps next time, may academic and level-headed friend.
“A sucker’s born every day.”
And still we wait for your proof that the “earth has reached carrying capacity.”
I knew this post would draw out the loons.
🙂
It would be refreshing if, instead of C&P, you could, like others up here, actually defend your position without using sarcasm and name-calling, in your own words. And in detail.
Well the presence of Hydrocarbons all over the universe might be a clue to the less stupid.
Owl,
“…discussing how “Peak Oil” is a fraud invented by the globocap/WEF cult”
Now we’re clear, thanks.
This blog’s creator didn’t start his long intellectual career writing about c19 or culture wars. He contributed substantially to our understanding of the “fraud” Peak Oil and its consequences for civilization as we have experienced it.
You’d do well to pick up one of his books and at least get informed, if you want to have an educated conversation about resource depletion.
No need to answer. And you call others “cultists’… who’s the cultist worshipping at the altar of infinite abundant energy and a cargo cult mentality of “if I wish it really heard, more energy and resources will show up, and Elon, Zucker et al will solve the problem of the last clean water and tuna and viable topsoil disappearing.
I have all of his books.
What is next, trying to ban me for an opinion you don’t like?
Fly monkey, fly.
I never tried to ban anyone. And it’s irrelevant whether I like your opinion, or not. You’re a desk person, a screens person. Your opinion reflects that.
You live in a manicured first-world nation that values terroir, good food, heirloom ways of growing things. Before that, you were in another first-world nation that also fights for NIMBY (Not in my backyard, for toxic and dangerous practices) and has a substantial share of resources still left, the US, which can also outsource a lot of the pollution and pressure on resources to other countries.
Just like it’s now outsourcing a grab for the big prize of Russian energy via Ukraine, throwing Europe under the bus in the process, canibalizing it.
Reality, in Germany, will assert itself in the next year or two. Agricultural processes are slow, and high price US LNG will plug the hole of Russian pipeline closings. But you WILL be cold, and you WILL be hungry in a relatively short while. Plan accordingly, even if you believe in unicorns shitting oil and farting gas so you can keep manipulating abstractions on your screens.
I, on the other hand, perhaps have a better understanding of the situation outside of desk-world, both as an organic grower and, in the past, as a visitor and resident of many third-world places that, in my lifetime, went into environmental collapse mode, from the Water Wars in Bolivia to slash-and-burn in Mexico, soil and fisheries depletion, widespread pollution…
The opinion referred to was that of F. William Engdahl.
As so often, your emotions cause you to assume my own beliefs and incorporate this assumption into your wild rants.
And wishing me cold and hunger. How charming.
Luckily we have lots of food, some chickens in the garden, and firewood.
Have a nice day.
You have a good day too, Owl.
I didn’t wish you cold and hunger. I suggested you take precautions to deal with a fact: that resources, including energy, are finite. Reading comprehension, please.
It’s great you have some chickens and gardens, and that sort of thing is exactly what I was suggesting. Community is very important too, both as a positive (being surrounded by the right kind of people with the right attitude and skills, in the right numbers in the right location) and a negative (avoiding concentrations of the entitled and useless, avoiding too many of the wrong people around in the wrong kind of place), etc…
Well said, Rulo.
I find it beyond ironic that Night Owl attacks the WEF/New Green Deal but supports its main tenets, which I did not realize until his recent comments. Just wow!
The Mary/Night Owl alliance is over. The Mary/Mick alliance rises.
Every hand is against Night Owl. Just because he’s likes the good things of life and is mad at people who he thinks are trying to deprive him of them.
You are half right, Jarek. I live pretty eco-consciously overall.
Composting, veggie garden, chickens, etc.
Our energy footprint is also extremely low.
That said, I have changed my mind about many of the green narratives floating about; there just isn’t good evidence for most of them.
Jarek: Lol.
“The Mary/Mick alliance arises”.
Thanks. I needed a laugh tonight.
Re-read pages 25-35 of The Long Emergency.
I would be interested to read, in your own words, how JHK is wrong on peak oil, and also the ability to create alternative energy sources without fossil fuels. He lays it out quite clearly after years of research how this just isn’t possible.
But Peak oil is a fraud. A Hoax! Kunstler was both right and partly wrong on the Oil story. For example, It’s Peak oil for Europe now because Europe blocked Russian oil and there are no alternatives sources, see?
Peak oil is not a fraud. Peak oil is just starting. Proof, the cost of oil and gas is slowly rising over the years. Scarcity is taking its toll. Peak oil is the apex of affordable oil, oil that can be used to burn in houses or cars. A prior post denying abiotic oil dais it right, if oil refreshed itself, we wouldn’t, we being the world, be looking for it 2 miles deep in the ocean, or under the ice in the Arctic.
Why deny the increasing scarcity of oil? What is in it to deny the oncoming disaster that confronts the world? Blood has been given for three generations over oil supplies. That will just get worse.
Right now, oil is coming from just a few areas, NorthAmerica, Caspian and Black Sea area, Venezuela, Nigeria, the Gulf region, Indonesia and Malaysia, and the Arctic in development. Some of the areas, including SA are already pumping water to get the oil.
The NWO is after what is left, that is what Ukraine is really all about. Who controls the oil globally controls the world. The US is fighting with NATO against Russia because oil impregnates the entire area around Crime, the BlackSea and the Caspian Sea. Russia will control Europe in a year when they figure out they have no alternative. The USA and its mentor, the WEF are going to lose this one.
Until legitimate alternatives for oil are discovered or created, the fight for the resources is going to get worse. The WEF saying that China is a good role model may include the fact that they are using coal primarily.
“Proof, the cost of oil and gas is slowly rising over the years.”
This isn’t really a “proof” of anything. We know that markets are manipulated in various ways. Also, investment in industry sectors is affected by govt polilcy, as is occurring right now for the energy sector. The US govt is basically saying: We will not allow there to be a market for your product. So, surprise, surprise, it doesn’t make sense to make sizable investments of any kind in energy extraction, processing, and distribution infrastructure. .
We also know that, for instance, the price of diamonds is kept high by allowing only a few onto the market.
So, you may be right, I don’t know. But the “proof” you offer is weak.
Sorry, it’s Peak Finance. Borrowing up the Gazoo with no intention paying back.
I never bought into Peak Oil. I really have no idea how much oil is left in the earth, but there is good evidence that it is replenished, and that even if the rate of replenishment is not enough for future needs, there are promising technologies for creating fuels in the lab.
Progress comes from hard work and optimism. The doom porn so many in the modern left are mired in leads them to advocate some rather morally repugnant things — like culling populations.
They have become ghouls.
Turns out Mr. Proof has a shelf-full of proofless (even counter-proven) beliefs and hunches he’s fully invested in, and a set of “morals” he prefers to view as governing our world even when they contradict laws of thermodynamics (which are part of the lib conspiracy, actually).
Yes, it reminds me of a funny and insightful essay by Kipling. The Irish or Celtic “mystics” were actually very hard headed and down to earth, completely willing and able to make their demands and argue rationally for them. In contrast, the English “realists” were emotional and muddle headed, unable to say why they believed what they believed beyond sputtering about the King and the Empire. That’s not to say there were always wrong, but their “process” was opaque to the say the least.
Similarly, Gustaph, who wants to return to 10,000 BC, is extremely rational in making his case. Whereas Night Owl can only hem and haw. That Gustaph’s 10,000 AD “descendants” won’t be rational at all doesn’t seem to bother hm.
Just tell us the earth’s “carrying capacity,” Gus.
You talk about proof quite a bit now, since you are unable to answer the above question.
So much smarter than everyone else, and yet — no answer.
Aw.
It is also possible to turn lead into gold, because of human ingenuity.
Unfortunately, the research proving this has been suppressed for centuries by the Illuminati because they hate humanity and want to keep us goldless.
Also the Earth continually manufactures new gold beneath the surface, but Klaus Schwab controls the map showing the places where this happens, and he will not release it to anyone other than his Young Leaders, because he knows that with enough gold, humanity could flourish and he doesn’t want that.
Ghoul science.
Forget Peak Oil, it’s Peak Stupidity we need to worry about. Are we there yet, or are there as yet undiscovered levels of idiocy awaiting exploitation?
There is at least one western establishment scientist who I am quite sure agrees with the Russians’ theory:
Jesse Ausubel, of Rockefeller Univ. He identifies himself as both a renewables and nuclear “heretic.”
Here is one of his papers:
httpXX://phe.rockefeller.edu/docs/HeresiesFinal.pdf
“Abstract: Renewables are not green. To reach the scale at which they would
contribute importantly to meeting global energy demand, renewable sources of
energy, such as wind, water and biomass, cause serious environmental harm.
Measuring renewables in watts per square metre that each source could produce
smashes these environmental idols. Nuclear energy is green. However, in order
to grow, the nuclear industry must extend out of its niche in baseload electric
power generation, form alliances with the methane industry to introduce more
hydrogen into energy markets, and start making hydrogen itself. Technologies
succeed when economies of scale form part of their conditions of evolution.
Like computers, to grow larger, the energy system must now shrink in size and
cost. Considered in watts per square metre, nuclear has astronomical advantages over its competitors.
1 Introduction
Heretics maintain opinions at variance with those generally received. Putting heretics
to death, hereticide, is common through history. In 1531 the Swiss Protestant heretic
Huldreich Zwingli soldiering anonymously in battle against the Catholic cantons was
speared in the thigh and then clubbed on the head. Mortally wounded, he was offered
the services of a priest. His declination caused him to be recognised, whereupon he
was killed and quartered, and his body parts mixed with dung and ceremonially burned.
Recall that the first heresy against the Roman Church in Switzerland in 1522 was the
eating of sausages during Lent, and the signal heresy was opposition to the baptism children. As nuclear experts know deeply, humans are not rational in their beliefs,
actions or reactions.
I will offer both renewable and nuclear heresies. I trust readers will not commit
hereticide. Because culture defines heresies, readers coming from a nuclear tribe will
probably applaud my renewable heresies and grumble about the nuclear. While my
heresies may not rival favouring polygamy or sharing all worldly goods, they will
disturb many. My main heresies are that renewable sources of energy are not green
and that the nuclear industry should make a product beside electricity. . . .
2 Decarbonisation
The dogma that gives me conviction to uphold heresies is decarbonisation, which I accept
as the central measure of energy evolution. . . .”
. . .
It’s one thing to float possibility of abiotic oil origins. It’s totally another thing to get from there to an infinite, essentially renewable supply at levels close to our current usage.
Since Night Owl here is trying to sell Engdahl books rather than have exchanges of ideas, or simply too lazy or shy or aloof or incompetent to share ideas he’s read, I may have to throw money at probable garbage in order to get the latest from the abiotic oilers. (Thanks Night, buddy.)
My suspicion is that “abiotic” oil-origin evidence simply misidentifies movements of oil underground caused by fracking and drilling and/or seismic activity—misidentifies as oil coming up from a deep geological production zone…
I bet its a big to-do about oil that’s just sloshing around in funny ways down there with all our related activities.
Linking to an interview upsets Gus.
Don’t be like Gus.
You’re the expert convinced by his abiotic oil arguments. Don’t want to share the salient points from what you’ve learned?
I’ll check the interview out. Apparently you think it’s all I need to get the bases of his abiotic arguments; okay…