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Campus Wokesters with boundary problems got “woke” for real on Thursday when an Ohio jury laid an additional $33-million for punitive damages on top of $11-million in compensatory damages already awarded against Oberlin College for running a “social justice” campaign to ruin the business of a four-generation small-town bakery that followed the shoplifting arrest of three black Oberlin College students there in 2016.

The precipitating incident happened the day after the presidential election when the Oberlin College campus suffered a collective emotional breakdown over the election results. Gibson’s Bakery and Food Mart, on the Oberlin town square, also sells wine and deli products and has been a fixture in downtown Oberlin for generations. The three students first tried to buy wine with fake ID and, failing to do that, attempted to walk out with two bottles. They were followed outside by one of the Bakery family members, Allyn Gibson. A fight ensued. Police arrested the kids. The college’s attempt to steer the case out of the court system failed. The three students eventually pleaded guilty in August 2017 to theft and aggravated trespassing, and were required by their plea agreements to declare that they had behaved wrongfully and that the bakery was not a racist establishment.

In the event, Oberlin College Dean of students, Meredith Raimondo, had organized students, faculty, and staff to mount days of demonstrations outside Gibson’s Bakery, accusing it of racism and systematic profiling of black students. At times, Ms. Raimondo appeared to lead the demonstration with a bullhorn, and handed out leaflets labeling Gibson’s as “racist.” The college also dropped its business arrangement with Gibson’s, which had supplied the college with donuts and bagels for decades. Gibson’s then sued both Oberlin College, and Ms. Raimondo in particular, for libel and for attempting to ruin its business.

The Oberlin case is of a piece with the widespread dishonest, despotic, and sadistic behavior syndrome that has roiled college campuses all over the country, and infected every corner of national life, including the giant social media companies, the corporate HR departments, the entire Democratic Party, virtually all show business, and the US Military. Wokesterism employs the same tactics used by Mao Zedong’s Red Guard during China’s “cultural revolution” of the 1960s — an epic fiasco of mass coercion in which millions of innocent people were imprisoned, tortured, and executed to consolidate the ageing and ailing Mao’s power and purge all dissenters. Even the Chinese communist party got sick of it and quashed the hysteria after Mao’s death.

Oberlin’s lame defense in the penalty phase of the court case was to plead poverty despite a nearly one-billion-dollar endowment — at a school which charges $70,000-a-year to attend. The punitive damages required the jury to find actual malice in the college’s behavior. In fact, the jury’s award of $33.2-million exceeded a statutory Ohio punitive damages cap of double compensatory damages (the $11-million).

In many cases like Oberlin’s around the nation — such as the mob that attacked author Charles Murray (The Bell Curve) at Middlebury College, the mobs that drove out biology professor Bret Weinstein at Evergreen College, the mob that bullied Nicholas Christakas at Yale, the serial mobs that disrupted many speakers at UC Berkeley — the mysterious common denominator is the acquiescence of college presidents and other campus authorities to the hysteria of the moment. The truth is, they were AWOL at best and often complicit in the action. The uproar at Oberlin may have been “triggered” by the dismaying election results of 2016, but a lot of this quasi-religious hysteria has been going on since long before the much-reviled Mr. Trump came on the scene. Campus deans and presidents have a lot to answer for. Until now, they have all skated neatly from scrutiny, with the help of an amazingly incurious news media. The hefty dollar judgment against Oberlin may be a caution to other college admins across the land that there actually are consequences for their cowardly and dishonorable behavior.

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  1. 450.org June 14, 2019 at 10:09 am #

    Somtimes things turn. Like my stomach. It’s turning all the time these days like the wheel in the sky keeps on turning. I don’t know where I’ll be tomorrow.

    Have you heard the good news? The glacier that once enveloped Everest is melting precipitously. Consequently, the preserved corpses of all the dead hikers, more than you can imagine, who’ve perished climbing its treacherous slopes over the years as part of their Maslownian self-actualization ritual are now exposed to natural mechanisms that desire, and exist, to turn them back to the dust from which the hikers, and all of us for that matter, were conjured.

    It’s divine justice in a sense. Climbing Everest has become an obnoxious & obscene industry and now the Maslownian self-actualizers may perhaps no longer freeze to death, but they’ll be treated to the pleasant & irresistible odor of the rotting human flesh & tissue of the hikers who did once-upon-a-time freeze to death trying to summit Everest. Cool. Or, considering the glacier is melting and other glaciers all over the planet, not “cool” but “hot.” Soon enough, the word “cool” will have no relevance or meaning since there will be no yardstick by which to measure it. A world without “cool” is no world at all. It’s a place called hell.

    It reminds me of the excellent 1982 song by Modern English I Melt With You. This song brings back such memories considering it was released 37 years prior. 37 years!! Jesus, I’m getting old — and so are you. I think the planet’s sick of us at this point and it realizes what a big mistake it’s made by giving birth to a progeny that’s in the process of murdering it. Our destruction of nature is nothing short of matricide. We’re a super organism devouring the host until there’s no host left to devour.

    Donald Trump is an idiot when it comes to climate change and more importantly when it comes to the destruction of our environment. The fact of the matter is, he doesn’t know shit about any of this because he doesn’t care so he denies everything, but here’s the rub; Trump is ultimately better in the long run for halting the planet-destroying machine that is modern economies. The so-called “Left” refuses to acknowledge this truthful fact. Instead, they will have us believe that “Green” & Wall Street can coexist. They can’t coexist. The only thing Wall Street can coexist with is “Greed” not “Green,” whatever “Green” really means to the so-called “Left.”

    Simply put, we’ve reached the end of growth. It’s growth that’s killing the planet and therefore it’s growth that will ultimately destroy us since the planet is what nourishes us and sustains us and all life.

    The Green New Deal proponents refuse to acknowledge this and since they don’t acknowledge it then their Green New Deal will be ineffective. In this case, since the survival of our species and all life on the planet depends on it, “it’s the thought that counts” doesn’t cut it. Sentiment must transform into effective action and effective action means we must radically transform how we live & interact. Proper & effective action means we must understand the root cause of our predicament and the root cause is growth.

    Here’s an excellent analysis from an honest, forthright physics professor. He uses logic and science to prove that we cannot continue to grow as we have because there won’t be a planet left to support such growth. It’s imperative we contract to a steady sustainable state. When you consider the implications of this article, you soon realize how daunting of an undertaking it will be to not only halt the consumption, and thus destruction, of the planet but further, to reverse that trend and contract substantially to a point we take no more from the planet than we give back. The vested powers-that-be won’t allow it and so, we will march head-on into an imminent, world-shattering catastrophe that may extinguish most, if not all, life on the planet.

    What could have been if only….

    Exponential Economist Meets Finite Physicist

      • 450.org June 14, 2019 at 12:59 pm #

        Speaking of lawsuits, this Peruvian mountain guide, a peasant really, won a lawsuit against a big energy company for melting the glacier on the mountain he serves & worships. Kudos to him, and kudos to Gibson’s.

        Climate Change And The Melting Glaciers

      • 450.org June 15, 2019 at 9:27 am #

        I said the following from that commentary above.

        The only thing Wall Street can coexist with is “Greed” not “Green,” whatever “Green” really means to the so-called “Left.”

        The so-called “Left,” and I say “so-called” because they’re really not “Left” in the historical sense of that description, believes “Green” equals renewables. This is the growth they speak of in their plan to save the planet — the renewables industry, or, Big Renewables if you will.

        Yeah, no, I don’t think so. In fact, I know so. Renewables will not get us to the promised land. Quite the opposite.

        Why Renewables Can’t Save The Planet

    • Ishabaka June 14, 2019 at 10:24 am #

      October 2018 – May 2019 – the coldest and wettest on record in the USA. Weather is not climate. Climate is not religion.

      • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 3:07 pm #

        Certainly felt that way out here too. That said, extreme weather events on both ends of the scale are predicted, so that alone doesn’t tell you much.

    • shotho June 14, 2019 at 10:27 am #

      “It’s growth that’s killing the planet . . . . “. Indeed, and that’s a very good point for working hard to kill growth and foster the development of a world made by hand.

    • K-Dog June 14, 2019 at 10:30 am #

      You didn’t read the article before you posted. That goes along with Oberlin College dean supporting of thugs most likely before she knew what was going on.

      • abbybwood June 14, 2019 at 12:24 pm #

        This Oberlin story reminds me of the outcry after Michael Brown robbed the convenience store and roughed up the owner when he complained about the theft.

        A few minutes later Brown got into an altercation with a patrol cop and after he put his hands into the cop car to grab the cops gun he was shot and killed.

        To this day many still feel badly for Michael Brown. That his life “mattered”.

        Had he not robbed that convenience store and avoided the confrontation with the cop, his life might still matter.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

        These people are scum. They wouldn’t get these jobs if they weren’t nor keep them if per chance somehow they hid their decency during the interview process.

        Close the Schools. The people will benefit a hundred fold (Lao Tzu).

        Very few professors get tenure or do anything brave once they get it. But even this remote possibility is unbearable to Academia who are now hoping to get rid of it.

    • hmuller June 14, 2019 at 10:32 am #

      Why is it that people who know so much about global warming, know nothing about the geo-engineering which is going on before our eyes, and probably plays a big role in messing up the earth’s weather?

      Regarding the Himalayan glaciers melting, expert opinion is divided.

      “IPCC Finally Acknowledges Its “Himalayan Blunder”

      BANGALORE, India—Amidst the doomsday scenario presented by the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) there is one silver lining, at least the glaciers in the Himalayas are not disappearing for at least a couple of centuries. The billion plus people who inhabit the fertile flood plains of the Ganga, Indus and Brahmaputra can breathe easy that the rivers which nurture them are not drying up anytime soon.”

      blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/ipcc-finally-acknowledges-its-e2809chimalayan-blundere2809d/

      • benr June 14, 2019 at 10:47 am #

        Why be burdened by reality when the narrative is so fuzzy they wear it like a SJW blanket.

        Meanwhile if they actually really cared they would not by typing endlessly on the evil Computer powered by the very thing they hate electricity after all is carbon positive.
        That computer which the very creation of polluted something somewhere and was created by effectively slave labor in china and Thailand even that Apple product I might add. Who’s toxic fabrication plants have suicide nets all around them to keep the slaves from jumping to their deaths!
        No they should be planting trees and holding their breath instead of exhaling the evil c02 in fact their very existence is destroying the planet what with their breathing and uncontrolled case of the vapors. How else can you account for the stench of some of the posts on here?
        Serious cases of the vapors.

      • 450.org June 14, 2019 at 11:00 am #

        Climate & weather are chaotic and not linear. This is the reason the models fail to predict accurately. The glaciers could be completely melted in 20 years or 200 years.

        • 450.org June 14, 2019 at 11:04 am #

          Considering climate & weather are chaotic, geo-engineering the atmosphere can and will have unintended results — results that
          could actually make things many times worse.

          Climate Change, Chaos, and Inexact Computing

          • wwg1wga June 14, 2019 at 11:25 am #

            ***************************************
            Nurture nature, Nature nurtures.
            got-truth.com/docs/Nurture%20nature.pdf

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            Q.

          • Jeremy June 14, 2019 at 12:22 pm #

            Worse indeed. What a graph!:

            “A major warm spell has caused nearly half the surface of the Greenland ice sheet to start melting, something that’s highly unusual for this time of year. And while this spike may pass, the gears could already be in motion for record-setting melt on the ice sheet’s western flank.

            Greenland has been scorching (by Greenland standards) for the past few days, with temperatures rising 10-20 degrees Celsius (18-36 degrees Fahrenheit) above normal across the island.”

            earther.gizmodo.com/half-of-greenlands-surface-started-melting-this-week-w-1835483363?IR=T

    • 100th Avatar June 14, 2019 at 10:43 am #

      Irresistible Force by Perry Farrell

      We’ve become a big business
      Oh, a galaxy merger
      The two of us a big bang
      Yeah, God is a real man
      God is a dad, God is a dad
      Ah, the irresistible force
      Met the immovable object

    • Robert White June 14, 2019 at 10:50 am #

      When using the term self-actualization one would be more historically accurate if Professor Emeritus Carl Rogers was cited for the term instead of using Professor Emeritus Abraham Maslow who was antiquated by comparison. Rogerian self-actualization posits generativity whereas dead dudes on Everest is more about their self-interested narcissism & individuality with respect to personal best behaviour & individualism as opposed to being about generativity towards others.

      Self-actualization enables one to transcend one’s own being to teach others about concepts that are beyond us as individuals.
      Self-actualized individuals are highly productive at life & being as opposed to those that are less prone to self-actualize.

      I studied Self Theories for my B.A. Honours in Experimental Psychology with the major being Personality Theory. Self Theories is an extremely interesting subfield of Personality Theory.

      Self-actualization tends to be epigenetic process as well.

      RW

      • 450.org June 14, 2019 at 10:57 am #

        There’s what it is in theory, and what is in practice. It’s come to mean the thawing frozen stiffs on Everest.

      • hmuller June 14, 2019 at 10:58 am #

        All those dead hikers on Everest should have spoken to you before setting off on their self-interested narcissism driven quest.

        I would add that I think they did it to impress women. This is behind 90% of the stupid things men do.

        • Robert White June 14, 2019 at 11:20 am #

          Sigmund Freud would agree in that he stated once that ‘artists are incipient introverts pinning after the love of women’.

          The male species is pretty stupid I must agree being one of them when it comes to awkwardness around beautiful women
          that have been bold enough to flirt with moi in my awkwardness when I have been unsuspecting about their underlying intentions.

          Women have a knack at making men look & feel stupid. That much I have learned in life so far.

          RW

        • K-Dog June 14, 2019 at 11:34 am #

          “I would add that I think they did it to impress women.”

          Then would you say ‘frozen stiff is a good descriptor?

      • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 11:23 am #

        OK Robert, now you’re just being pedantic.

        • Robert White June 14, 2019 at 11:50 am #

          That’s what I have to overcome in terms of writing. Being pedantic has always been a problem with my writing because of academia and the historians I had to sift through over time studying. Blame my being pedantic on the history books.

          The worst turn off for me in terms of Social Science discourse has been the writing between disciplines. Neuroscience discourse is pretty choppy water and so too is Psychopharmacology. Law is terrible and a thorough bastardization of the English language you must agree on that, Scratch.

          I was not an English major so I appreciate the writing tips when them arrive.

          cheers, Robert

          • capt spaulding June 14, 2019 at 12:50 pm #

            Here’s a tip for you, it’s pining, not pinning, also they, not them.

      • Soloview June 14, 2019 at 11:36 am #

        Yeah, right except the Oberlin College scandal has nothing to do with Maslow, Rogers or corpses of over-ambitious climbers on Mount Everest. It has to do with a) an ostensibly educational institution being complicit in an attempt to destroy a family bakery after its staff called the cops on three of its students who shoplifted there, and b) a national news organizations’ reluctance to report on a court verdict which which ordered to pay the wokester creeps and their pseudo-liberal adult enablers hefty damages.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 1:08 pm #

        Maslow revealed in his journals his loathing for his Christian students around Christmas time. He struggled with it at least. That says something good about him. Do you struggle against your lower nature in like fashion?

        • Robert White June 14, 2019 at 4:26 pm #

          My main focus in life today is all about filthy lucre [money] so I am a pretty debased person when it gets right down to it. If being so debased that money has become my prime focus then I guess I am struggling against my lower nature if by lower nature you mean something as base as money.

          Christmas is an abomination to Bible reading Christians given the pagan representations & display of a false ethos of Christianity. Christ was not exactly Macy’s & Bloomingdales material, eh.

          RW

          • hmuller June 14, 2019 at 5:48 pm #

            Besides which December 25 is the birthday of Mithra, a mystery cult god popular with Roman soldiers (like Constantine and crew) around years 1 to 400 AD. They merged Mithra (and others) with the executed rabbi Jeheshua. Look it up if interested; or don’t.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 6:03 pm #

            In other words, you aren’t a self actualized person. At least Maslow struggled against his own Zio hatred.

        • malthuss June 14, 2019 at 6:40 pm #

          PROOF?

    • TraffickingInDivinity June 14, 2019 at 11:00 am #

      These crazy reactions destroy lives – both the lives of the business and the lives of the protesters who are encouraged to live a fantasy. This will only change when we experience a real crisis.

    • Walter B June 15, 2019 at 10:18 am #

      Wow 450, what a rant! I wish I wrote that – it is very comprehensive, well thought out, and above all, accurate. The only thing I would change is that Wall Street DOES care about green – as in the green cash that they line their pockets with at our expense! Damn their eyes. Mankind may believe that it can eventually overcome all disease, but there is one disease that they will never conquer and that is GREED! It destroys everything it takes hold of and all who suffer from it can never get enough to satiate it..

      There is only one cure for pleasure to the excess and that is pain, and that is what is coming to America, one day at a time.

      • 450.org June 15, 2019 at 3:22 pm #

        Thanks, Walter. I agree with everything you typed above and yes, I neglected to say Wall Street loves it some green of another stripe as in the color of greenbacks green. Great point.

    • HowardBeale June 16, 2019 at 1:53 pm #

      You are a serious climate-change warrior. Feel better, now that some anonymous person on the internet has acknowledged you, despite the fact that your comment has nothing, nada, zip to do with the conversation being proposed here?
      Go away.

  2. hmuller June 14, 2019 at 10:18 am #

    Three cheers for the jury. These SJW’s are just like the mindless, witch hunting Red Guard, and it’s time to quit coddling them.

    I hope someone initiates a class action suit against Google and the social media giants for their systematic censorship, demonetizing, and shadow banning websites with the wrong political perspective.

    Maybe Snack Cakes can explain why the revered New York Times would not report this news.

    • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 10:44 am #

      Lol! Yep, that should have been right up Lil’ Snacker’s alley.

    • elysianfield June 14, 2019 at 11:04 am #

      “Maybe Snack Cakes can explain why the revered New York Times would not report this news.”

      hmuller,
      Is it not obvious? It was news not fit to print….

    • Exscotticus June 14, 2019 at 11:49 am #

      >>> I hope someone initiates a class action suit against Google and the social media giants for their systematic censorship, demonetizing, and shadow banning websites with the wrong political perspective.

      Social media conglomerates have deep pockets and deep exposure on this issue. Lawyers, find a favorable venue and start a class-action lawsuit. Guaranteed settlement and change of behavior.

      • abbybwood June 14, 2019 at 12:41 pm #

        I wonder if Oberlin will appeal?

        It would be fun to eventually see this case snake it’s way to The Supremes.

        • Exscotticus June 14, 2019 at 12:52 pm #

          I certainly wouldn’t celebrate until the money’s in the bank. Judges routinely modify or set aside jury verdicts when they don’t agree with them.

          • hmuller June 14, 2019 at 4:26 pm #

            I expect a higher court will greatly reduce the damages since the defendant is such an honored and august institution nobly devoted to the free and rational pursuit of knowledge. LOL

            But even a million or two in damages sends a message to this and other colleges “you will be held accountable”. Don’t get me wrong, I’m hoping the eventual damages are sky high. The higher, the better. I hope the damn college is bankrupted and shut down. (But for that they’d have to hire Bernie Sanders’ wife to run the place)

            And I hope this sends a message to Evergreen State College in Olympia, Washington which sanctions a day when no white people are allowed on campus.

            “… members of the Evergreen State College community asked white people to leave the campus in a “day of absence.” Those who refused to give into such demands sparked uncontrollable outrage from event planners and a chain of events led to mass chaos, national media coverage, and the exit of a few faculty and staff.

            You’ll remember students stormed a faculty meeting, disrupted classes, roamed the campus with baseball bats, blocked students and staff from leaving the library, and successfully demanded that campus police give up their guns.

            Eventually, the chief of police resigned, explaining that she had been given all of the responsibility, but none of the authority to keep people safe on campus.”

            washingtonexaminer.com/red-alert-politics/evergreen-state-college-students-host-no-whites-allowed-ev…

  3. K-Dog June 14, 2019 at 10:21 am #

    At the end of this story Gibson has nothing to complain about. Quite a score for this store.

    They are even thanking everybody.

    • K-Dog June 14, 2019 at 10:25 am #

      I’m going to dissent and say the judgment was excessive and so over the top racist tensions rather than justice predominate. To really mean it I’d have to know more but to blindly agree with this nonsense would betray an inability to understand the nuance of money and justice.

      • 450.org June 14, 2019 at 10:28 am #

        I noticed an add for Dunkin’ Donuts popped up under this latest blog post. Too funny. That’s it, in a nutshell. Everything, and I mean everything, is exploited, most especially tragedy.

        • Walter B June 14, 2019 at 10:33 am #

          Never waste a good crisis, eh?

          • K-Dog June 14, 2019 at 10:38 am #

            DunkinDonuts should use a webcam and a bit’o AI to see if 450 is in uniform to properly target their ad.

        • K-Dog June 14, 2019 at 10:35 am #

          Could a social justice warrior please wrong the dog. Please. Pretty please. Pretty please with bacon on top.

          ‘$33-million for punitive damages on top of $11-million in compensatory damages. I could get down with that.

          oberlinreview.org/18683/news/gibsons-lawsuit-will-go-to-trial/

          The premise of this weeks’ article is all wrong. Lawyers are not going to put things right. All lawyers will do is widen the divide. Which divide? All of them.

          • 450.org June 14, 2019 at 10:37 am #

            I agree with this completely.

          • Walter B June 14, 2019 at 11:42 am #

            The first thought that crossed my mind after reading the title of today’s post was that wasn’t this the punch line to the old joke of “What do you call one million lawyers at the bottom of the ocean?” Personally, I never appreciated lawyer jokes, because it not funny at all how they are destroying America and human lives for profit. I wouldn’t even put it past them to be fanning the fires of the SJW movement because it holds the potential for massive profits for the scum.

          • toktomi June 14, 2019 at 8:19 pm #

            @K-Dog “all wrong”

            Maybe or maybe not.

            Sometimes the only way to extinguish a well fire is to blow it out!

          • RocketDoc June 16, 2019 at 9:10 am #

            I received my settlement last week in a class action lawsuit against Stericycle for overcharging me for medical waste disposal for 5 years. It was $1.98. My sister, brother, cousin, are all lawyers but JHK’s title immediately triggered the joke that Walter B mentioned.

          • HowardBeale June 16, 2019 at 2:25 pm #

            K-Dog,
            I am not playing Devil’s…dog, here, but, again, I feel a little differently than you do about the effect this will have. Up until this verdict/judgement/win, whatever you want to call it, the left have been running roughshod over anyone or any institution that had a different opinion, and they have been doing it utterely without consequence. The effect of that sense of entitlement, an ability to disregard any and all sense of decency and restraint, has been a chorus from hell constantly fanning the flames of hatred, and riling up a mass reaction from people who normally would just be going about living their lives; and the iterations pour gas on the fire.

            By shutting down some of that vocal hatred for a while, it gives the whole society a chance to ramp things down, as more people feel less offended and start to reapportion their available mental energies; hopefully more toward just trying to live a good life and get along to get along…

        • benr June 14, 2019 at 10:50 am #

          @kdog

          In uniform you ask?
          Hell no at least not an American military uniform.

          • K-Dog June 14, 2019 at 10:59 am #

            Actually an American military uniform would be Army if one were worn.. The buy two get one free rule comes into play if so.

            Contractors don’t wear uniforms but are subject to the UCMJ. They get ‘points’ and enough points and you get a doughnut for free.

          • benr June 14, 2019 at 12:34 pm #

            @kdog

            Depends on the contractor it does not have to be a military contract.
            A contractor at the VA is not subject to the UCMJ.

        • abbybwood June 14, 2019 at 12:43 pm #

          The ad only popped up because you were “thinking”about donuts. Ha.

          • 450.org June 14, 2019 at 1:04 pm #

            It popped up because JHK mentioned doughnuts in his article. I’m one of the few who read the entire thing.

            The college also dropped its business arrangement with Gibson’s, which had supplied the college with donuts and bagels for decades. Gibson’s then sued both Oberlin College, and Ms. Raimondo in particular, for libel and for attempting to ruin its business.

            Who doesn’t love capitalism? Or is it socialism? Maybe it’s both.

      • fugeguy June 14, 2019 at 11:08 am #

        I do think the amount high.

        However, racism is not the likely reason. A warning perhaps that rural Ohio is not ready to succumb to East LA.

        • K-Dog June 14, 2019 at 11:36 am #

          I don’t know enough to know the reason.

          • fugeguy June 14, 2019 at 11:58 am #

            There really are not that many racial tensions in that part of Ohio.

            Mostly rural with a few blacks and many Hispanic residents who are former migrant workers, descendants of the apple, pear and pear pickers- many orchards in this area.

            The only real race issues were in Lorain when many Puerto Ricans came there- them and and blacks seem to not like one another.

          • malthuss June 14, 2019 at 6:43 pm #

            FUGE GUY

            I saw the clips of Somalis there, rioting. Not enough housing vouchers.
            Nice cars, sail faoms, fat and [un]happy.

            fat dumb happy on someone elses dime.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 1:12 pm #

        The Blacks and their enablers (the University) cried wolf first – as if White would have been allowed to steal from the store. Or as if Blacks have or should have the right to do so. Do you believe that Blacks should have the right to steal, K-Dog? And that those who oppose them are Racists who should be destroyed?

        You’re not getting the dire implications of this – that’s the most one can say in your favor. This would bring on Helter Skelter faster than you can say Tralfamadore.

      • HowardBeale June 16, 2019 at 2:10 pm #

        K-Dog,
        As a retired teacher, I can now safely offer a joke that teachers share, which finds its origin in a strange combination of a commercial for almonds, and the setting of an example, for the pupose of detering future transgressions; that line is: “If we hung just one a week…,” the one being an unruly student.

        Thus, is the judgement excessive? IMO, and I can’t use “hang” for obvious reasons, I would say, no. It should have been greater, given the endowment value; and that, because, deterrents actually do have a history of working, especially when the transgressor is transgressing publicly and can’t jump into the get away car and flee.

        I’d say the politically correct, metoo, racist! rascist! rascist! foundation has just flipped on a dime–or, maybe, $44 million dollars.

        • Mountain gal June 17, 2019 at 6:34 am #

          Agreed. Thus far it has seemed as if the left could do or say anything and nothing would happen to them, absolutely no accountability. Consider the shameful episode in which Charles Murray came to speak at Middlebury College and was prevented from doing so by student protests while the admin stood passively by. A professor who was to be the moderator in this talk was injured by the demonstrators who attacked her. Sadly, as she is employed by Middlebury she dared not sue them. Nothing happened to the students and/or outside agitators who participated in this shameful event. I wish Charles Murray had sued Middlebury for the assault and fear for his life and well being.

          • HowardBeale June 19, 2019 at 1:12 am #

            Ironic that Jim’s title for this post uses the punchline for the well known joke, “What do you call a thousand lawyers chained together at the bottom of the sea?,” as at least of few of those lawyers have finally done something to effect an historic change in the direction of society–which actually bodes well for the future of decency and Justice…

  4. shotho June 14, 2019 at 10:24 am #

    I’m glad you brought up the China Cultural Revolution. I’ve often wondered about the seeming ineffectiveness of it as opposed to the extremely effective American Cultural Revolution that was going on at roughly the same time. The 1960’s ushered in a turning point in American society that has been going on ever since then. The results of this “revolution” are truly startling in their drastic departure from historic norms and, seeming, permanence. Whereas, China went from chaos to near-leadership in world affairs since that time. Of course, it doesn’t hurt to have a totalitarian government in charge of things, but we seem to be arriving at the same style of government. No way to figure out how the future unfolds.

    • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 10:42 am #

      Totalitarianism is making and will continue making a resurgence. In times of chaos, people prefer anyone who can at least “make the trains run on time.”

      • K-Dog June 14, 2019 at 11:06 am #

        I think you are right. Anything or anyone who will make sense of the chaos and pain no matter how wrong they can be!

    • benr June 14, 2019 at 10:52 am #

      Only because the silent majority has only now started waking up to the dangers of Socialism and it’s close twisted cousin Communism.
      Most people only get mad when the water stops running, the lights start flickering and their is no bread or canned goods in the pantry.

      • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 10:57 am #

        Are you having a laugh? As late stage malignant capitalism progresses to full scale systemic meltdown…

        • benr June 14, 2019 at 4:47 pm #

          Tell me where in these United States there is no food, electricity or water flowing that infrastructure has been built and maintained?
          Can the same be said for Socialist paradises like club Cuba and Venezuela or more recently South Africa?
          I’m sure we could add to the Socialist utopia failure list but where will we find such with 340 million people and another 20-40 million parasitic illegal aliens wanting to cash in on the dream without putting on the work?

      • BuckP June 14, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

        Nothing like good ole Fascism, Corporate welfare, Neoliberalism, Oligarchal Rule to warm the American heart. We are free to obey and free to consume but not free to think for ourselves. The Nudging State never sleeps.
        How about that $29 trillion Obama gave to the TBTF banks in 2009, instead of jailing their officers and breaking them up. $8 trillion would havepaid off every mortage in America.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 1:16 pm #

          Nope you have it backwards. Fascism is the State’s dominance over private industry. We live in a Plutocracy, or the Private Sphere’s dominance over the State.

          It matters. When you dance with a woman, do you want her to lead? That wouldn’t work that well, would it?

      • Majella June 16, 2019 at 5:42 pm #

        benr –

        There is no ‘silent majority’ – you guys are most vocal!

        The ‘dangers’ of socialism are overstated – you don’t even recognize the socialism already baked-in in the US socio-political system, none of which I’m betting you’d like to see rescinded.

        The apocalyptic scenario you describe can occur just as quickly and permanently under your beloved crony capitalism as any other. Supply chains are enormously long, the ‘just-in-time’ stocking regime means there’s maybe 5 days of anything left at any given point, and the crumbling infrastructure of US utilities, especially the power grid, means your ‘flickering lights’ potentiality could be minutes away, even in San Deigo.

    • BackRowHeckler June 14, 2019 at 4:28 pm #

      In the 60s, the Red Guard would do things like put dog collars around their professors neck, make them bark, make them confess their political sins, walk them around the streets like a dog, then kick them to death.

      An estimated 60 million human beings were liquidated in the cultural revolution and other repressions in China 1947 — 1976.

      I don’t know, are SJW undergrads at Oberlin made of the same stern stuff Revolutionary Guards were made of in China in 1965? They had better toughen up if they plan on confronting nihilistic motorcycle gangs, vanguard of the hard right and ardent Trump supporters.

  5. venuspluto67 June 14, 2019 at 10:24 am #

    The omission tells you everything you need to know about the descent of the old liberalism into a maw of delusion and bad faith and the appalling failures of institutional leadership across the USA.

    That’s just one reason why I favor the Political Compass’s distinction between the social-authoritarian left and the social-libertarian left. And also, if you give ordinary people a choice between social-authoritarian rightism and social-authoritarian leftism, they will choose the former pretty much every time. But being a social-libertarian, I am mostly free of the delusion that he world gives fig what I think about anything. 🙂

    • benr June 14, 2019 at 10:54 am #

      I find I agree with many of the libertarian beliefs until they start to descend into anarchy.

      • hmuller June 14, 2019 at 4:39 pm #

        Comedian (to use the term loosely) Bill Maher once described himself as a “Libertarian”. I can only assume he confused that word with “Libertine”.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 1:19 pm #

      “Rightism” is based on age old customs and traditions that have a clear track record of success.

      Needless to say, Capitalism is against all of this and is on the side of the Left. Who funded Communism after all, the whole purpose of which was to ruin traditional economies and societies and bring them into the money economy, left, right, center – it simply doesn’t matter in the end.

  6. Bruceweb June 14, 2019 at 10:27 am #

    70k a year to attend a college with a near 1bil.$ endowment?

    That’s an obscenity in itself.

    • 450.org June 14, 2019 at 10:29 am #

      Where’s the socialism?

    • capt spaulding June 14, 2019 at 12:54 pm #

      And that’s not even mentioning how much it costs to bribe your kid’s way in there.

  7. fugeguy June 14, 2019 at 10:30 am #

    Once upon a time lived about 20 minutes from Oberlin.

    Very nice town filled with mostly very nice people. Some real good things go on in this institution. Hopefully it has not deteriorated too much.

    But there are some of the more aggressive non-thinking types as well. Having had an encounter or two with such, I do not think they will last long once the currently gathering storm begins to blow full force. Very weak one on one and not able to sustain against a mild incarnation of a real deal, even with numbers.

    At some point the kiddees are going to the wood shed. A return trip will not be guaranteed.

    Reality in all its unfairness is coming in full force. Unavoidable at this point only timing is the question.

    • venuspluto67 June 14, 2019 at 10:38 am #

      Yeah, I can’t imagine the “snowflake” types faring well in a world of dramatically declining energy availability in the context of runaway population growth. In fact, I shudder to imagine how they will likely fare. :-0

      • 450.org June 14, 2019 at 10:42 am #

        Or in a world with no glaciers. Where will they ski?

        • benr June 14, 2019 at 10:57 am #

          That will never be a reality the glaciers will always be around as they have always been around they just shrink and grow.
          That much at least even you can admit to because that evidence is all over the world.
          Odd that the snow pack in the Sierra Nevadas is at an all time high!
          Skiing in Mammoth mountain until august and possibly into the next ski season.

          Here have a gander at all that snow.
          Yes this is live!

          mammothmountain.com/cams/summit-cam

          Record amounts of snow in fact it just snowed last weekend up there!

          • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 11:01 am #

            A single year event. Yes, because you know, extreme outliers in data sets can be interpreted as “the new normal.” Move along now. Nothing to see here.

          • benr June 14, 2019 at 11:28 am #

            Anyone that says there will be no glaciers as a result of climate change is a fool.
            Now if they said eventually all the water on our planet will dissipate into space and that will make glaciers go away ok a couple of million or billion years from now sure.
            Guess what it’s still cold as hell on both the poles the glaciers grow and shrink same as it ever was.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 1:21 pm #

            At one point there were no ice caps at all. Apparently the Dinosaurs ruined the planet that badly and thus became extinct.
            Stupid? But no more so than current Climate Change hysteria.

  8. Walter B June 14, 2019 at 10:31 am #

    Yes Jim, hope does indeed spring eternal. While it is a sorry shame that this is what our “educational” system has degraded into, the real crime is far worse. The result of the greed and corruption of these institutions, is that those existing these places of party and protest are not sent off with valuable skills and knowledge to begin successful adult careers, but are left hold two pieces of paper. One is a worthless rag that bears evidence that they fell for the scam in the first place. The other, and far more valuable documents are the notes of bondage that they have signed over to the criminal banksters which assure that the indebted ones will have to fish or cut bait or move back into Mom and Dad’s basement. Probably the smart move until what is left of working America gets stuck holding the leaky bag.

  9. Robert White June 14, 2019 at 10:32 am #

    I have to fully agree with today’s article and I will add that Dr. Robert Scheer banned me from Truthdig two days ago for having the temerity to doubt the official version of the World Trade Center controlled demolition narrative espoused by left-wing mainstream media. Heck, I was on Truthdig for a number of years too. And to be fair I have been banned on the right-wing blogosphere too so I guess the McCarthyism balances out every now & then.

    I have an uncle that was the mayor of a small community in Ontario and he managed an elite cottage country enclave that was absolutely unable to agree on any rule making that governed the waterways or cottage fronts of the residents. He was a veteran municipal mayor that realized the futility of ever attempting to get residents to agree on anything associated with the lake they were on or the estuaries between bodies of water. Land infrastructure was always manageable but waterways & recreational rule making turned out to be anathema to all he was tasked to guide municipally.

    I got the impression he did not like the job at all.

    RW

    • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 10:38 am #

      I will add that Dr. Robert Scheer banned me from Truthdig two days ago for having the temerity to doubt the official version of the World Trade Center controlled demolition narrative espoused by left-wing mainstream media.

      Doubt it? Hell, Ol’ Scratch views it as settled science! All three 9-11 (NYC, DC, and PA) incidents were fakes, and not even very convincing ones at that.

      • K-Dog June 14, 2019 at 10:49 am #

        ‘Robert Scheer, editor in chief of Truthdig, has built a reputation for strong social and political writing over his 30 years as a journalist. His columns appear in newspapers across the country, and his in-depth interviews have made headlines. He conducted the famous Playboy magazine interview in which Jimmy Carter confessed to the lust in his heart and he went on to do many interviews for the Los Angeles Times with Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton and many other prominent political and cultural figures.

        I saw those puffs of smoke the day it happened before they were edited out of all the video. The zipper of collapsed corner supports went down faster than freefall or faster than those spoiled brats trying to steal wine in Oberlin. I’d have banned your ass too.

        • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 10:55 am #

          I’d have banned your ass too.

          Huh? Banned who? Robert Scheer?

          Being banned is the new internet forum badge of honor. But being tracked and monitored? Well, hell, that’s just a given these days, ain’t it?

          • benr June 14, 2019 at 11:12 am #

            Going to get worse.
            The gubbermint was looking at issuing CAC or Pivcards to everyone at one point to for access to the internet so they knew exactly who you are and where you go but the AI has become so good they already know most of it even when running through proxy servers.

          • K-Dog June 14, 2019 at 11:17 am #

            I tried signing up for a forum recently after making a well reasoned polite post at a conservative think tank run forum (I researched the owner after what happened). I had to register to submit my post. After some time I excitedly trotted over to the website to look for an intelligent response and saw.

            Your account status: Banned.

            Length this change will remain in effect: Permanently.

            Reason for change: None Given

            All I did was try and register as K-Dog. Then I logged onto my website and removed this discussion forum from my list of links. How long will I ban the site?

            Permanently.

          • benr June 14, 2019 at 11:31 am #

            @kdog

            That is terrible.
            Ban for cause as in someone being an asshole to everyone just to be an asshole.
            Heated discussion is good.

          • K-Dog June 14, 2019 at 11:43 am #

            ‘Heated discussion is good’

            It can be if it does not go Chernobyl but a lot of people get personally invested in outcomes as if their identity and whatever they are arguing about are one and the same thing.

            The answer to the conundrum is quite simple. This is my answer and it cuts through mountains of bullshit. It has never been about what you believe and it has always been about what you do.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 1:32 pm #

          There speaks the Leftist hater, the enemy of all Culture.

        • malthuss June 14, 2019 at 6:47 pm #

          Scheer is a left darling. A fool.

          Gushed over North Korea was it?

          Coulter exposed him for what he is. I thank Anne.

          • malthuss June 14, 2019 at 6:48 pm #

            All I did was try TO register as K-Dog

      • elysianfield June 14, 2019 at 11:28 am #

        “Doubt it? Hell, Ol’ Scratch views it as settled science!

        Nick O Demus,

        I do not know what pathology brought you to the point where you can no longer believe your lying eyes….

        Consider that you did believe the 9/11 incidents at face value immediately after the attack.

        Consider that years of Internet “exposure and study” brought you to your present belief in a controlled demolition/false flag event.

        The Internet provides a convenient rabbit hole for any belief, errant or otherwise…along with a population of like minded entities that can and will affirm the most egregious of concepts…

        The Internet, I believe, is the perfect vehicle for generating popular psychosis…Culturally it will be more destructive than beneficial.

        • K-Dog June 14, 2019 at 11:52 am #

          The explosions that zipped down the corners of the towers ahead of the collapse were visible on the first day. Nobody wanted to see them so badly they were hardy mentioned and control of the narrative was quickly established. Not a single square centimeter of plane wreckage from the Pentagon ‘crash’ was ever shown to the public.

          In the intervening years the American taxpayer has funded a monumental effort to infuse the correct rendering of events into culture and history. American media serves power and always has. In time those who remember the correct sequence of events and the America which died the day the towers fell will be gone. Then the victory of power will be complete.

          • benr June 14, 2019 at 12:11 pm #

            Those are called squibs massive amounts of heated air being released at once visible as a result of dust and debris.
            Much harder for the “experts” to explain the freefall collapse.
            That is the one the narrative has ever managed to explain to me in a manner that I could believe.

            I again think it was shoddy construction and not to code steel being used.
            I have never read anywhere that the actual steel was looked at how ever I did read most of it was sold off to China just as fast as it could be.

        • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 1:07 pm #

          You’ll come around eventually Elysian, everyone does. Were you a slow learner in school, or perhaps a prodigy instead? Both tend to follow the party line.

          • elysianfield June 15, 2019 at 12:37 pm #

            Nick O Demus,
            …Just a slow learner.

          • elysianfield June 15, 2019 at 12:48 pm #

            …and hopefully well grounded in human nature and human history.

            Consider the hundreds, possibly thousands of people that would have reason to have access to the building’s infrastructure. Consider the dozens, if not hundreds of people who would have been privy to planning, organizing, etc. the deed. Consider that humans do not keep secrets well.

            Consider those who died during the outrage that probably would have seen the preparations, and yet were there during the destruction.

            Consider the hundreds of whistle-blowers that are currently absent from the current dialog.

            You are an intelligent observer. Riddle me this… Why bring the buildings down when the losses resulting in the air assault alone would be reason enough to go to war?

          • Majella June 16, 2019 at 5:56 pm #

            “why bring the buildings down…”

            EF, I’ve read that the buildings had become a huge liability, requiring massive refurbishment including extraction of tons of asbestos. It was way cheaper to blow them up and collect the insurance – double indemnity as it turned out, if the event was related to terrorism. There’re some coincidences that are just TOO convenient.

          • Majella June 18, 2019 at 5:59 pm #

            benr: I find it fascinating that this is one conspiracy theory you don’t subscribe to! It’s by far the most likely actual conspiracy in the current crop.

      • Robert White June 14, 2019 at 11:33 am #

        I’m a Mechanical Engineering Technician [Tool & Die Making] & I did that before I went to university for Experimental Psychology.
        When 911 manifested to reveal molten steel pouring out of WTC 2 from the 18th or so floor of the outside of the building that was filmed live on CNN I realized that the controlled demolition was an inside engineering job.

        To evidence molten steel anywhere on a modern office building pouring from the perimeter is to know empirically that the reaction in terms of metallurgy is impossible outside of a forced chemical reaction that would automatically indicate outside intervention was causally linked to the genesis of the observable molten steel to begin with.

        In no instance in the history of modern structural steel office buildings do we evidence molten steel pouring from a perimeter face of the data set of historical evidence compiled to date except in the instance of WTC 2 on 911.

        RW

        • benr June 14, 2019 at 11:56 am #

          Tell me something.
          What is the molten point of aluminum verses steel and are you saying that there was not massive amounts of aluminum in the twin towers much less the actual aircraft?
          How does molten metal from the office furniture, window moldings copper wiring, thousands of feet of conduit and god only knows what else play a part in all that molten metal?
          What does thousands of gallons of jet fuel burn at?
          I’m not an expert just don’t buy the story our inept government pulled this off without a leak from any compartment.

          • benr June 14, 2019 at 12:03 pm #

            Never mind I found a decent source for a variety of metal molten points.

            engineeringtoolbox.com/melting-temperature-metals-d_860.html

            FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn’t need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength—and that required exposure to much less heat.

            What if the builder used sub par steel to build the building like the titanic had bad rivets and bolts and the structures were actually rotten and falling apart to begin with?

          • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

            Sing it, Robert! Music to my ears!

          • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 3:35 pm #

            benr,

            Faster than freefall? Yeah, right. Are you going to tell me that they planted the squibs that were plainly visible firing too, just so that wacky conspiracy theorists would come out of the closet afterward? Or the countless eyewitnesses at the scene who heard multiple explosions before what were clearly drone aircraft hit the building. Or the nano thermite (a top secret military grade explosive at the time), which was found all over the debris in the pile, where the remaining beams left standing clearly showed the signs of being sheered off diagonally controlled demolition style, and which burned for weeks afterward in spite of being hosed down 24/7, and which was immediately disposed of afterward, in spite of the fact that it was evidence in an active crime scene.

            Other than all that, you just might have something there.

            It wasn’t “The Government” that pulled this off, it was a relatively small cadre of “aligned interests” from both the public and private sector, just like the CIA operates all the time. They probably only needed a few dozen or fewer people with relatively complete knowledge of the whole affair, and a few hundred or so people with decidedly incomplete knowledge within their very narrow area of special expertise. All were professionals with a long track record in their expertise, all were sworn to secrecy, and all had compromising information that would have been devastating to them personally if they were to ever be found out or go rogue. Then once the caper was pulled off, everyone of them realized the magnitude of what it was they were in on, and they immediately knew damned well not only that they dare not breath a word of it to anyone, but that no one would possibly believe them even if they did. The whole “sleeper cell” bullshit idea that was subsequently fobbed off on Al Qaeda, was actually just an acknowledgment of the method employed by the conspirators to pull the whole thing off. Pretty brilliant and pretty ballsy, you have to admit. But as has been said many times before regarding “the BIG LIE”: Go BIG or stay at home! And they definitely went REALLY BIG with 9-11.

          • Nightowl June 14, 2019 at 6:11 pm #

            I never understood this logic. The operation could have been very controlled and knowledge limited to a small group. The government is compartmentalized. Why is there an assumption that thousands of people must have kept quiet?

            Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth has compelling evidence and argumentation for controlled demolotion.

        • benr June 14, 2019 at 2:00 pm #

          @Robert white

          Only molten steel drips orange….Really?
          Steel video below

          youtube.com/watch?v=SlfMSOb8f18

          youtube.com/watch?v=CAXjrSpmm9I

          Aluminum below

          youtube.com/watch?v=UPEfrfx9nC8

          Only huh?

          • Robert White June 14, 2019 at 4:34 pm #

            I’ll have to watch it when I borrow a high speed link. I’m a 56k dialup modem Ludditte with no high speed access.

            Abject poverty is not for sissies.

            RW

    • scoubidou123 June 14, 2019 at 6:43 pm #

      Awr, not the 911 cranks again.

      Read 911myths.com/drg_nist_review_2_1.pdf

      It’s just so refreshing to inject a dose of calm and common sense in the topic.

      • Nightowl June 15, 2019 at 5:59 am #

        So confident in Mr. Mackey’s propaganda (addressed by experts at A&E) that you lead with an ad hominem.

      • Ol' Scratch June 15, 2019 at 7:18 am #

        It makes you feel better, doesn’t it? Childish delusions die hard.

        • benr June 15, 2019 at 6:20 pm #

          Verses what that a group of Americans were willing to commit mass murder of fellow Americans to do?
          The delusion is that our government or people in our government planned executed and managed to keep it quiet. Even a small cell would require an awful lot of people and lest we forget there are people on record that watched the planes fly into the towers so was that mass delusion? I also personally know a lady that witnessed the plane fly into the pentagon so there goes the missile theory. That and any missile large enough to cause that amount of damage is very loud.

          I do know some intel was found in a Jihadist cell in the Philippines that pointed to using Aircraft to attack large buildings.
          cnn.com/2003/WORLD/asiapcf/southeast/07/26/khalid.confession/index.html

          It also detailed using flares to start wild fires all over California to cause mass confusion.

          Once again out intel apparatus either failed us or was forced into walls of separation by guess who?

  10. Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 10:35 am #

    Rampant wokesterism clowns on the left, newly resurgent imperialist militarism jokers on the right, here we are, stuck in the middle of an epic shitstorm with each other.

    Ol’ Scratch: I think the time is rapidly arriving to consider the possibility that sane military professionals (are there any remaining in captivity?) with guns turned on our civilian “leadership” will be our only way out. It’s a pretty damn sad state of affairs when looking to the Pentagon of all places for answers to our conundrum is even thinkable, but there it is. There doesn’t appear to be any sanity remaining in civilian society anymore, so perhaps civilians have forfeited their right to decide things for awhile. Maybe even a LONG while.

    • 450.org June 14, 2019 at 10:38 am #

      Not to worry. We can just do what Gibson’s did and sue them. Easy peezy, right?

    • rackslope June 14, 2019 at 10:39 am #

      The wheel in the sky keeps on turning…

      Same as it ever was…. same as it ever was…

      • 450.org June 14, 2019 at 10:40 am #

        Life is a journey, afterall.

    • venuspluto67 June 14, 2019 at 10:40 am #

      Yeah, we’ve really lost our proverbial shit, haven’t we? These aren’t good times in which to live if you’re someone like me who has an anxiety disorder and who by nature is predisposed to pay attention to what’s going on.

      • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 10:46 am #

        Ain’t that the truth?

        • K-Dog June 14, 2019 at 11:21 am #

          You start thinking a bear hides behind every bush.

          • venuspluto67 June 14, 2019 at 11:24 am #

            If not an entire pack of werewolves! :-0

          • benr June 14, 2019 at 11:47 am #

            Well with a 30-06 and a bear behind every bush means we get bear sausage.
            Yum win win.
            Just make sure you cook it properly or you get worms and nasty parasites as the guy from meat eater discovered.

          • capt spaulding June 14, 2019 at 1:01 pm #

            Getting worms and parasites would be unbearable.

    • jdhines June 14, 2019 at 1:57 pm #

      >>> “perhaps civilians have forfeited their right to decide things for awhile. Maybe even a LONG while.”

      Military rule is certainly extreme, but in my view, it is probably the only thing that will save us from complete, violent chaos. It will need to take place in a timely manner and even then, it is unlikely to succeed. We are probably going the way of Rome and all the others. Only the timing of events and when the final collapse will occur is up for debate. The “final collapse” will, most probably, be marked by a span of decades, not a specific date. Too bad, but understandable considering our fate is in the hand’s of Homo Sapiens. A bad lot if ever there was one.

      • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 3:45 pm #

        My feelings as well. Not sure that even the Generals have their shit in a bag enough to pull this one out. But I think it might be tried anyway. They’re saner than most.

      • toktomi June 14, 2019 at 8:37 pm #

        @jdhines military rule

        Oh, good fucking idea! Empower a pack of losers who can’t whoop a bunch of stone age pygmies with the task of pacification of a hundred million card carrying freaks with semi-automatic rifles and a trillion rounds of ammo.

        • jdhines June 17, 2019 at 10:33 am #

          >>> “Oh, good fucking idea! Empower a pack of losers who can’t whoop a bunch of stone age pygmies with the task of pacification of a hundred million card-carrying freaks with semi-automatic rifles and a trillion rounds of ammo.”

          You’d rather have the US Congress / President / Government remain in charge of our “rescue?” Their track record is not very impressive as of late (the last 4-5 decades). The military is at least stable, even rational. I would rather the stable and rational take a shot at it, albeit a long one, as opposed to leaving it to the “parties,” the media, IT platforms, and Corporate America.

          Guns? yes/no? Abortion? yes/no? Taxes? yes/no? While deciding, drink Pepsi, enjoy a Twinkie, stare into your screen and then see what happens!”

  11. SW June 14, 2019 at 10:37 am #

    It sounds like the juries in Ohio actually have some common sense, including the demand that shoplifters (if found guilty) admit they were stealing. To excuse a crime based on race, religion, sexual orientation or whatever infantilizes the person who committed the transgression. These young men were old enough to attend college, know shoplifting was against the law and to stand up and say to the protestors –” this isn’t about my race — it’s about my stealing wine. That’s why Gibson’s Bakery called the cops.”

    • 100th Avatar June 14, 2019 at 10:50 am #

      “They don’t want to know about it, and they don’t want you to know about it.“

      And why people seek alternative mediums for information.

      And why the mainstream mediums are working feverishly to ban them, shut them down, or labeled as “fake” and extremist.

      Newspeak

      • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 11:02 am #

        101 for you!

      • benr June 14, 2019 at 11:03 am #

        Indeed the only real truth we hear is the alternative sites even when they get things wrong they are more correct.
        As soon as someone gets deplatformed or de-monetized I automatically wonder what they said to get the power structure so angry.

    • benr June 14, 2019 at 12:16 pm #

      There is a reason WHY it is called a medical practice.
      Insert human error some docs are just better than others.

      • benr June 14, 2019 at 12:27 pm #

        Grandmother on my moms side was a five time breast and lung cancer survivor. She had half of one lung and 1/4 of the other removed never smoked a day in her life and rarely drank but man did she like to gamble in Vegas.
        One of her medications was an estrogen blocker.
        New doctor took her off it and bam the cancer came roaring back after a decade in remission.
        She was in her late 80’s and simply decided not to be radiated, poisoned with Chemo, and sliced and diced again. She died five years ago this may.
        Why did she die? Because her new doctor had no clue how to treat a patient with cancer in remission. It came roaring back with a vengeance. What were the causes I hear you saying?

        There was a chemical rocket fuel plant that was closed down next to where they lived that polluted the ground water as well as an experimental nuclear salt reactor that melted down in the 50’s not even 20 miles away.
        An entire family died of some rare cancer near the rocket fuel plant and people in Simi valley have higher incidences of cancer as a result of the salt reactor meltdown. A the loving embrace of chemicals and nuclear power.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 2:00 pm #

      Or just admit that the students were member of an inferior race that has no business of going to Oberlin or any other college for the most part.

      Ten percent of American Blacks have IQ above the White average of 100. And 100 is far too low for real college work in any case – not if college standards were kept to where they were traditionally. Most Whites shouldn’t in college either. And thus the real number of real Black college students should be exceedingly low.

      • malthuss June 14, 2019 at 6:51 pm #

        Ten percent of American Blacks have IQ above the White average of 100. –Proof?

        • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2019 at 5:29 pm #

          Any source text like “The Bell Curve”. If you want to understand this Holy Science, you have to put forth the effort. Then you’d know this and that greasers are higher than Blacks. Go to any Hispanic area and see the vibrant shopping areas they create. Now go to a Black ghetto and look for anything similar. Ditto their gangs – far more organized and deadly.

  12. doggersize June 14, 2019 at 10:38 am #

    joe rogan and his guests will straighten everything out.
    youtube.com/watch?v=G-2_Bc_7Pos

  13. FincaInTheMountains June 14, 2019 at 10:46 am #

    Dissolution of the Monasteries has begun?

    American colleges and universities definitely play the role of the Cistercian monasteries, which under the direction of Continental Valois dynasty sowed discord and strife in English society of the 15th century during the War of the Roses.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_Monasteries

    • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 10:50 am #

      I’ll give you this, you Ol’ Mountain Finc, you do have a unique historical perspective. So by all means, party on, Ol’ Boy!

      • FincaInTheMountains June 14, 2019 at 11:50 am #

        And you don’t even have to hang the deans!

        Bankrupting them would be good enough!

        • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 3:04 pm #

          If I ever quit or get fired from my J-O-B, I’m going to have to find my way down there so I can share in some of what you’re having.

  14. 100th Avatar June 14, 2019 at 10:52 am #

    “They don’t want to know about it, and they don’t want you to know about it.“
    And why people seek alternative mediums for information.
    And why the mainstream mediums are working feverishly to ban them, shut them down, or labeled as “fake” and “extremist”.

    Newspeak

  15. tractorguy June 14, 2019 at 10:57 am #

    Haven’t heard a word lately in the media about all the lawsuits that Nick Sandmann brought against all the media outlets and celebrities that took him to task for supposedly attacking Nathan Phillips, the faux-Indian and Vietnam veteran. Hope he succeeds as well. I bet if he does the media will bury that one as well.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 2:04 pm #

      Nathan Phillips isn’t a real Indian? He sure looks like one. Or do you think Indians can’t be con-men and lowlifes? Why not?

  16. DianaH June 14, 2019 at 11:18 am #

    I agree with Jim that soon the societal chaos worries will pale compared with the other looming existential threats. You all have all talked about how it takes more than wandering out of the city with a hoe to grow enough food to survive. It takes strength and skill you are all right but it takes more than that. It takes Natures cooperation and she ain’t cooperating. Half of my land isn’t planted and what I could get in isn’t germinating well, too cold and wet. This is the third year we won’t be getting a crop. USDA says not to worry, there are stockpiles enough to last for several years. But historically weather anomalies like the ones we’ve been seeing can last 40, 50 years before the pattern reverts and have brought down civilizations.
    It’s not just that. I mowed the clover and there wasn’t a single bee. Not one. And we’ve been organic ten years. And where are the potato bugs? It’s the middle of June. You’d think I’d be happy to see the insects disappear but it’s ominous. Real ominous

    • TPTB-USA June 14, 2019 at 12:03 pm #

      Failure to Plant Crops
      armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/climate/failure-to-plant-crops/

    • So many liars June 14, 2019 at 12:17 pm #

      Last year I had not one squash bug. Not the ones that scurry around in groups, and not the vine borer.
      And in recent years I’ve seen few corn earworms.
      So far this year no potato bugs.

      Have the plants been GMO’d to resist these bugs? Or is it something else…?

    • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 2:07 pm #

      The bees are in the cities where they aren’t being all sprayed to death. They will move back into the country once society falls. As will social chaos as Blacks move out to steal and kill. The “Gibsons” will have to defend themselves or with like minded folks – the kind of folks you organic people despise, right?

    • toktomi June 14, 2019 at 8:43 pm #

      @DianaH

      Coincidentally, I had a thought early this morning; what if geoengineering isn’t geo at all but rather is bio in some way, not simply collaterally but primarily?

    • Mountain gal June 15, 2019 at 7:30 am #

      I hear you DianaH. Looking at the weather in the NE the past few years makes me so glad I’m no longer farming. My land was high in elevation, slow to warm up in the spring and tended towards wetness; good for droughts but not monsoons.I have no clue how I’d ever of gotten most of my crops in this year. So far we’ve been able to “escape” the ramifications of this, including the midwest floods, because stores just buy from places/countries less affected. Not sure how long that can continue though. And is it really feasible to rely on getting so much of our food from elsewhere?

  17. benr June 14, 2019 at 11:24 am #

    May I asks where you are posting from?
    I have family in a town called Crystal Michigan and they are saying some of what you just posted.
    Not about the bees one of my uncles is a bee farmer and he is doing well but he takes extra precautions with is bees now.
    He won’t let them pollinate cucumber fields anymore if he can help it as that gives the hive the trots and he has to knock them on the head(his words).
    They have been planting but as you said things are not as far along as usual or as easy as usual.

    I think that has more to do with messing around with seed stock genes and making them dependent on roundup.

    • DianaH June 14, 2019 at 11:27 am #

      Central Pennsylvania. And why are the weather forecasts so far wrong? NWS predicted warmer then normal spring and summer for the Northeast and it’s so cold.

      • rackslope June 14, 2019 at 11:32 am #

        Gee, it’s almost like they’re pushing a narrative. Nahhhhhhh

      • benr June 14, 2019 at 11:45 am #

        Conspiracy theorists would say the “CHEMTRAILS” are working as intended. At one point there existed a clip where Obama admitted to geoengineering via chemtrails but that clip no longer exists.

        huffpost.com/entry/obama-takes-bold-step-to_b_5069973

        Others would point to volcanic activity controlling patterns of weather.
        Some would say the suns activity cycling back and forth between higher outputs and lower outputs.

        I would suggest a designer crop and green houses of some type.
        Do you earn your living from farming?

      • EvelynV June 14, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

        It has to do with the Jet-stream being so disrupted because of the loss of ice in the polar region.

        Never before have so many tornados happened so far east either.

        On another note, how is that Kunstler scoffs so heartily at the 911 conspiracy. He apparently buys the gov’t version hook, line, and sinker. Ditto Fred Kelly. Disturbing and puzzling to me.

        • Exscotticus June 14, 2019 at 1:06 pm #

          >>> On another note, how is that Kunstler scoffs so heartily at the 911 conspiracy.

          Do you believe the moon landings were fake, too? What about the earth? Round or flat?

          • EvelynV June 14, 2019 at 1:44 pm #

            Typical response from those too frightened to use their reasoning.

            I don’t believe moon landings were fake.
            The earth is not flat.
            Oswald probably did not kill Kennedy.
            The Gulf of Tonkin incident was a false flag event.
            Saddam did not possess weapons of mass destruction.
            Nancy Reagan may have fuck Franked Sinatra in the WH.
            The Pearl Harbor attack could have probably been thwarted.
            Nixon was probably betrayed by John Dean.
            The Bush family were somehow involved in the assassination attempt on Reagan.
            Hunter Thompson’s death probably wasn’t a suicide.
            Some extremely rotten about the Israeli attack on the Liberty.

          • Exscotticus June 14, 2019 at 3:34 pm #

            OK. So what’s the 9/11 conspiracy theory you think deserves consideration? That it was a controlled demolition? That our government knew in advance? Tell us Alex Jones!

          • EvelynV June 15, 2019 at 1:53 am #

            Exscrottus

            With the immense quantity of information that has been posted on the web disproving the inane gov’t story about 911, if you have to ask the question you must be as thick headed and cognitively dissonant as anyone who hangs out on this forum.

            A video I recently saw makes the case that planes did not fly into the twin towers. It does seem curious that there are only a couple of videos ever seen of the planes striking the building.

            The claim is that the videos we’ve all seen a hundred times were provided to the news services that showed them. They were prepared just for that purpose. So, when you slow down the action and examine them closely it is explained what the planes would have encountered striking the buildings where they appear to crash through the windows. Using footage of other plane crashes it is shown how the nose of a plane is distorted at the instant it hits something with the resistance of the twin tower buildings. Then you see how the plane simply melts into the background with no visible evidence whatsoever the windows are being crashed.

            I don’t expect you’ll bother to explore the matter but here’s a tidbit to chew on…

            https://911planeshoax.com

          • Nightowl June 15, 2019 at 6:06 am #

            Why don’t you tell us how the towers went down? Be sure to provide concrete evidence that proves your theory.

          • EvelynV June 15, 2019 at 12:22 pm #

            Nightowl you dumb fuck,

            It isn’t necessary to tell you how they went down. It’s only necessary to prove how they couldn’t have gone down to debunk the gov’t’s bogus conspiracy. Apart from the engineering considerations of the buildings themselves there are literally hundreds of other facts about the matter that defy reason e.g. Cheney taking over for one day control of Norad, the Bin Laden family being hastened out of the US by air when absolutely all other planes were grounded, the matter of the dancing Jewish agents, the incredibly remarkable coincidence of the so called hijackers’ passports magically appearing in the midst of all the wreakage, the well recognized impossibility of experienced or unexperienced pilots being able to fly in the precision manner it would have taken to hit the buildings with an airliner, the curious lack of any witnesses whatsoever who heard what would have been the roaring approach of planes flying so low over NYC, the disappearance of all video footage of which there had to be considerable of a plane hitting the pentagon… If you look for it on the websites that have concentrated on this matter you will find a least 100 probably closer to 200 solid facts that would make anyone who opens their brains even a tiny crack suspicious.

          • Nightowl June 15, 2019 at 1:31 pm #

            Evelyn,

            I was agreeing with those who question the official narrative — such as lyou.

            Regardless, interesting that your post calling me a “dumb fuck” is allowed to stand.

          • EvelynV June 15, 2019 at 2:17 pm #

            Nightowl

            Well, I apologize for that. Your comment hardly conveys what you claim it was supposed to but lack of nuance one of the flaws of non-verbal communication. I tend to become a snapping snarling female dog when I feel surrounded by mental zombies.

          • Exscotticus June 15, 2019 at 3:21 pm #

            >>> only a couple of videos ever seen of the planes striking the building.

            YouTube is your friend. There are numerous videos of the strikes—particularly the second plane—as many cameras were recording the devastation of the first strike by then. You can see the strikes from numerous POVs. From close up, from far away, from the sky, from the street, from stationary cameras, from hand-held cameras.

            And then I guess you’re discounting the thousands of actual eye-witness accounts? Just all some mass conspiracy?

            >>> Oswald probably did not kill Kennedy.

            Whoa! How do you even know Kennedy was shot?! Only ONE video. And witnesses don’t count, yes?

            You are Jonesing… Alex Jonesing…

        • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 1:16 pm #

          Belief in the government still runs strong in the propagandized populace, and the word conspiracy scares the crap out of people. It shouldn’t. Conspiracies are just secretive plans among insiders, and they happen everyday all around us now. Hell, the financial markets rely on them these days to continue to turn a profit. 9-11 wasn’t even a particularly convincing conspiracy, especially in retrospect. The special effects were quite awesome, though.

          • Walter B June 14, 2019 at 1:52 pm #

            No it was not convincing Herr Scratch, at lest not to any of us that have taken strength of materials or structural analysis courses where we actually collapsed structures to find out how they failed under load and what the failures looked like. Nothing looked like what we saw on 11 Sep 01, except maybe this:

            youtube.com/watch?v=xYjF9WPyZfg

          • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 2:12 pm #

            Good point, Walt. Some very specialized knowledge here, known by very few. The science of not construction but destruction.

        • benr June 14, 2019 at 3:02 pm #

          @evelynV

          Yea about that no WMD…iS MUSTARD GAS NOT wMD?

          Is Sarin not WMD?

          Is a dirty bomb or the makings for one not wmd?

          usnews.com/opinion/articles/2014/10/16/new-york-times-reports-wmd-found-in-iraq

          No means none new or old rotting away in an old warhead still equals some.

          550 tons of Yellow cake removed and sent to Canada,

          nbcnews.com/id/25546334/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/t/secret-us-mission-hauls-uranium-iraq/

          Hundreds of tons of dual use precursors is still the makings for Mustard gas!
          After all None means none so yes some was indeed found the CIA factoid even states such while still saying no none found. but but what was found was old not inert and harmless but old.
          That’s why the detectors went off constantly while the stock piles of munitions were burned right?

          nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html

          But hey you keep shoveling that none was found narrative.

          • Exscotticus June 14, 2019 at 3:47 pm #

            LOL you forgot about the aluminum tubes that could ONLY be used for enriching uranium.

            No one ever denied that Saddam pursued WMDs. Heck he used them. Heck he admitted he used them.

            But that’s not what Bush needed to sell his war. He needed evidence that Iraq was “actively pursuing nuclear weapons, concealing a vast chemical and biological weapons arsenal, and posing an immediate and grave threat to US national security.”

            None of it was true. What is true is that a decision was made to go to war, and then the various intelligence agencies were tasked with creating the justifications for doing so.

          • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 4:06 pm #

            Bingo! Well done!

          • benr June 14, 2019 at 5:02 pm #

            @exscotticus
            Indeed but the false narrative that none where found was still being ginned up even to this day.
            Never argued about whether or not we should have gone in.
            The fact is Iraq was more stable under that nasty former American puppet Saddam.
            I have had a say in that we set him up and we brought him down and were worried any WMD he may have had might have hade hecho in America stamped on the bottom.

            Here is a question the “Saddam” found in a spider hole dirty and disheveled as well as obviously drugged out of his gourd and then hung was that really the old goat or a body double.

            I do say I find it impressive that he gave his noose man shit for tying the knot wrong.
            Bastard had some balls.

          • Exscotticus June 14, 2019 at 6:36 pm #

            >>> Indeed but the false narrative that none where found

            Nothing actively being developed or used. Nothing we didn’t know about from decades before.

            One could argue that the only new active sources of WMD were from our own weapon systems. Depleted uranium weapons and so forth. So I guess you’re right; we did find WMDs in Iraq; they were ours.

          • EvelynV June 15, 2019 at 1:08 pm #

            Exscrotum

            You are unbelievably naive on the subject.

            The aluminum tube story was a red herring cooked up by the CIA. Where the hell do you have your brainwashing sessions performed!

            isis-online.org/publications/iraq/IraqAluminumTubes12-5-03.pdf

            “After a year of debate, virtually all of the gas centrifuge experts in the United States and abroad who evaluated this case rejected the CIA’s case and did not believe that the tubes were destined for gas centrifuges. The CIA was unwilling to bend. Moreover, the tubes were becoming the centerpiece of the administration’s case that Iraq had stepped up its efforts to get nuclear weapons program. “

          • Exscotticus June 15, 2019 at 3:23 pm #

            >>> You are unbelievably naive on the subject.

            And you are unbelievably bad at recognizing sarcasm. Read my posts carefully.

          • EvelynV June 15, 2019 at 6:37 pm #

            exscott

            The good thing about this place is I can come back a few days later and see for myself what an arrogant ass I sound like sometimes.

            I don’t know the explanation for 911 but I wish we had a gov’t we could believe and trust. Has there ever been a time when such a thing existed?

        • toktomi June 14, 2019 at 9:03 pm #

          @EvelynV Kunstler scoffs

          I would offer a thought.

          If you are a person with a fair sized readership or following in the U.S., then an apple a day and scoffing at certain narratives will keep the doctors away.

          My guess about JHK after these many years that I have followed some of his stuff is that he is a complexly savvy guy who knows which side his bread is buttered on and who is infused with survival instincts and ways. I would suggest that “scoffing” at one does not necessarily reflect “buying” of a particular other. For example, sometimes the “super cop lie” [Beverly Hills Cop] is the only logical alternative.

  18. shabbaranks June 14, 2019 at 11:31 am #

    Dindu Nation

    Bill for government handout welfare programs = $2 trillion.

    Less: Bill for slavery reparations = $1 trillion.

    Net balance: Dindu America still owes $1 trillion to the US for the privilege of living in the US instead of some sub-Saharan economic basket case.

    • BackRowHeckler June 14, 2019 at 3:16 pm #

      Good point. Actually the Welfare Bill since 1965 tops out at $10 trillion.

      What did we get for our money?

      Brh

      • hmuller June 14, 2019 at 6:36 pm #

        It’s more than the welfare. There’s all the crime damages inflicted on the white community. The costs for courts and prisons. The unfair transfer of wealth via affirmative action determining who wins a govt. contract, who gets a job, who gets into college.

        And most controversially, there’s the fact the federal govt took property (slaves) away from the legal owners without compensation – a clear violation of the Constitution’s 5th Amendment.

        So all you great-great-great grandchildren of slave owners, start calculating your losses. In the grand world of just reparations you are owed big money. Eat that, Maxine Waters!

      • malthuss June 14, 2019 at 6:56 pm #

        IN USA—blacks have gone from 13 m to 43m….thats what we got.
        riots, chaos, murder.

        AND CULTURE—-

        Huge graphic on 2 story bus—man w dread locks.

        Another sign for hip hop history–pic of Biggy, who was shot in an SUV.

        New film..Called Yesterday…I see ads all round. image is taken from beatles..yesterday was a Beatles song and image borrows from Abbey Road.

  19. Slugoon June 14, 2019 at 12:59 pm #

    I cannot imagine how awful it must be to live as one of these SJW types, in a permanent state of neuroticism, constantly finding injustice in even the most mundane of everyday events, or in this case, a simple cut and dried Merlot heist.

    And then the wasteful expenditure of energy that follows in venting all that pent-up vitriol.

    Have any studies been carried out on these people? Did being picked last for the football team just snowball or is it something more deep-rooted?

    I imagine all the fines in the world won’t change a behaviour that seems quite pathological to me.

    • capt spaulding June 14, 2019 at 1:20 pm #

      The problem is that both sides take things too far. As far as I’m concerned, the PC crowd is just as full of shit as the right wingers. I don’t wanna live under Lenin any more than I do under Hitler. Whatever happened to moderation? Both sides want to control what you think and say. Oberlin had it coming, judging by what they did, It’s the typical bullshit put forth by the PC crowd. Personally, I avoid those people just as I avoid Trumpsters. Talking to either one is a waste of time which could be more productively spent taking a dump.

      By the way, I just read that on Mt. Everest, they are using those frozen climbers as mile markers. Use what you’ve got on hand, If life hands you a lemon, make lemonade. Listen up, Rand McNalley.

      • Majella June 14, 2019 at 1:42 pm #

        Hear, hear Capt.

      • EvelynV June 14, 2019 at 1:48 pm #

        Come on! With modern GPS technology they need corpsicle’s for guidance?

      • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 2:16 pm #

        What does moderation mean in this case? Letting the Blacks steal on every other day of the week? Or one bottle of wine not two?

        What you said sounds good – to those to lazy to think that is. Store don’t let people steal. If they can, they stop you and make you put it back, ban you, and/or prosecute. In places like the ghetto where none of that can’t be enforced, stores go out of business and don’t set up to begin with.

        Would Whites have been allowed to steal by Gibsons? Prove it.

        • benr June 14, 2019 at 2:42 pm #

          Have you not heard now no prosecution for theft unless the value is over $750 dollars in Dallas!
          The new normal so walk in and wander out with a big screen.
          Some stores have a hands off policy like Home Depot.
          I moon lighted in the paint department while I was in the Navy and was told to let people steal and not get involved.
          Walked in on a homeless guy stealing 20 or so packs of aaa batteries at 15 bucks a piece in the bathroom after having sat through yet another rendition of shrink prevention!
          Shrink is Home Depots version of loss where they wanted to lower shrink aka loss but then they told us not to stop people from stealing. They made a veiled suggestion it was employee theft and not dirt bags giving themselves the five finger discount.
          Needless to say I ejected said homeless guy and recovered the hundreds of dollars in merchandise only to be wrote up for not following company guidelines. I lastedt another month before the store management made the job unbearable and I left.

          • BackRowHeckler June 14, 2019 at 3:01 pm #

            Well, Ben, new African American DAs in Dallas, StLoui, Chi, Baltimore and Chicago ran for the office on the platform that THEY WOULD NOT ENFORCE THE LAW!!! Needless to say they were elected hands down. What they are saying is “palefaces, you are on your own, fend for yourself, the law is not here to protect you but to protect criminals. Get used to it. Oh, if you try to claim self defense, you will be prosecuted to the highest extent of the law. Get used to it.”

            Brh

          • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 3:12 pm #

            Sound like a bunch of head shrinkers who have already had their heads – and therefore their brains, shrunk. Blame the employees – nice. Scum.

            No small store could afford such a policy of constant theft.

          • BackRowHeckler June 14, 2019 at 3:21 pm #

            Maybe that’s the point, Jan.

            All private business must go.

            Name your reason, rascist, exploitive, imperialistic you get the picure

            Brh

          • 100th Avatar June 14, 2019 at 4:33 pm #

            An extended trip to South Africa would give Janos the opportunity to witness his not too distant future.

            The slope is past the slippery, now it’s only about gaining mass and momentum before it crashes your bubble.

            What is bothering you is that the keys to the kingdom are being handed over, as opposed to SA where they were forced over.

      • Slugoon June 14, 2019 at 7:27 pm #

        Capt, by Trumpsters I assume you mean anybody that voted for Trump? Or is it just the ones that wear the hats? How do you avoid so many people? Are they all really that offensive?

        You asked what happened to moderation and I’m wondering the same reading your response.

        I’m only picking a fight because I’m a Brexiteer, which in the UK is akin to being a Trumpster.

        • capt spaulding June 14, 2019 at 10:19 pm #

          As far as you being a Brexiteer, I can understand some of your grievances, such as wanting to control immigration. I agree with that, we’re overpopulated as it is. As far as some of the other things, I don’t know enough about what’s going on over there to be able to have an opinion. For me, moderation means to act in a civil manner as often as possible, given the circumstances. I have learned that as soon as you let emotions run your reasoning and your mouth, nothing gets accomplished. It’s the main reason that I think we should still carry swords. When you’re talking to a man who is visibly armed, just as you are, most people will probably take a more judicious approach in how they address and deal with each other. I am reminded of how William Buckley Jr., a conservative, used to debate with John Kenneth Galbraith, a liberal, on public television on Sundays. They each had very different opinions, and yet were able to express themselves and disagree with each other, and then go to dinner together afterwards. I shouldn’t tar all”Trumpsters” with the same brush, but I have found that most of them are of the Rush Limbaugh type, loud on bombast, and long on cognitive dissonance. I would be interested, however, on seeing you and Green Alba discuss Brexit. I’m sure I could learn some things from both of you. Also, you seem to be a very civil man, so if you can explain your take on Brexit to me, I would appreciate hearing about it.

          • Slugoon June 15, 2019 at 3:40 am #

            What I was getting at is that over sixty-million people voted for DJT and surely some of them must be worth talking to in a bid to understand their grievances.

            When I’ve gone pro-Brexit in public I’ve had some people say “good for you for admitting it” like it’s some taboo affliction. Other times the room has simply gone quiet. Death of a party.

            When I campaigned for Vote Leave I met many hundreds of Brexiteers and with one single exception I didn’t come across anyone I considered to be a racist, Little Englander, swivel-eyed-loon or any of the other things we are labelled in the media. In my experience (and this is possibly because I live in a predominantly white middle-class county) they were all hard working, educated and rational people.

            I personally wouldn’t wear a MAGA hat but the parallels seems similar to me with the Trumpsters and from where I sit all the noise about DJT is because he wants to control his border. Isn’t that his job under law?

            GA and I had a long (long!) debate on Brexit I think starting on June 3’s blog and expanded upon in the two thereafter. I started by being a bit combative but I was new.

            She puts forward many well-reasoned and pragmatic arguments and a neutral you will undoubtedly find much to agree with.

          • Slugoon June 15, 2019 at 4:07 am #

            Edit: it was May 27’s blog onwards.

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 8:13 am #

            Thank you, Slugoon – I think we managed to stay polite while covering a lot of ground 🙂 .

            I’d just make two points to capt Spaulding, which aren’t specifically arguments against Brexit, but are relevant.

            One is that it would be good to dispel the popular notion (popular especially in the US and certainly on this blog) that Brexiter = ‘deplorable’. It just doesn’t, as your example shows, both with regard to yourself and those people you spoke to while campaigning.

            You are, as you say, from a middle-class, predominantly white area, and not from somewhere like East Anglia that has hosted a lot of Eastern European fruit and veg pickers – I can’t guess regarding Polish plumbers or office cleaners!

            And I previously mentioned my brother’s mother-in-law, who was in the age group most likely to vote Brexit. She knew nothing whatever about the EU – either its workings or its raison d’être, but she didn’t like eco-lightbulbs, which she associated with the EU, and that was her declared reason for voting Brexit.

            Far from being a ‘deplorable’, she lived in a five-bedroom house (which she bought while already widowed and living alone) and has since died and left her remain-voting children and grandchildren with the effects of her vote, which was cast in spectacular ignorance of any of the actual issues.

            About six months after the vote she commented (in my brother’s house) about how great it was that we had signed so many new trade deals (we hadn’t). My brother controlled his exasperation and merely said ‘oh, what are those?’.

            And her ignorance wasn’t entirely surprising, since David Davis, our erstwhile Brexit minister and chief negotiator, was unaware, until after the Brexit vote, that it wasn’t legally possible to sign any trade deals until leaving the EU. Even I knew that before I voted.

            She is only one example, but since one of the most frequently asked questions on Google from the UK after the vote was ‘What is the EU?’, I think we can safely say that the UK electorate was not entirely informed. And much of that thanks to 40 years of the ‘popular press’.

            My husband, also being educated, middle-class (UK sense) and not remotely ‘deplorable’, could have voted either way. Neither of us is enamoured of the Eurocracy or of the amount of lobbying that goes on in their exalted halls. It was touch and go with him, but he voted Remain. And now, seeing the complete shambles that we are being led into, he’s more Remain than he was to start with.

            And my second point, immigration

            The following link (along with many others easily googled) shows the relative rates of EU and non-EU immigration. This is another refinement that people in the US (and again, on this blog) almost always ignore, because from their own point of view they are used to one monolithic entity, ‘immigration’.

            Immigration from outwith the EU (on which the EU has no say whatsoever) has consistently been higher – and apart from a short period much higher than internal inward migration from the EU.

            That’s where the effort should have gone, to my mind (leaving aside issues like why we haven’t trained enough computer specialists ourselves so that we don’t need to import them en masse from India). I don’t think it’s morally right to poach doctors and nurses from countries like India or Nigeria, when they are needed there. I’m fine with having e.g. German doctors coming back and forward, or staying with their families – doctors always move around while training and establishing their careers anyway.

            But we’ve shut off the supply of EU medics and nurses (and e.g. care home assistants), not just legally, as that hasn’t happened yet, but because they don’t want to come any more – why would they come to the UK, even with a visa, when they are full citizens in any other EU country?

            Anyway, as I predicted before the Brexit vote, the result has been a considerable increase in immigration from outside the EU. What did people think would happen?

            If you need a doctor (sorry, desperately need a doctor) you can’t ask patients to wait while you train one and tell them they can have an appointment for their hip surgery in 10 years time. You have to get one. And if you can’t get one from the EU, you’ll have to cast your net further afield and get one from somewhere like India. Not getting one isn’t an option. And if your GDP is going to shrink and the pound is going to go down (again), and possibly your credit rating is going to go down (again) too, you have less possibility of training new ones yourself.

            Doctors and nurses are only one example – there are dozens of other ones, including staff in the ‘hospitality’ industry. I don’t go to many hotels these days in major cities, but the check-in staff seem to be mostly Polish, Spanish, gap-year Australian or Asian. Brits don’t seem to like the hours or the pay.

            I have seen representatives of Asian small business owners saying they voted for Brexit because they’d been promised (they had) that it would mean a level playing field for aspiring immigrants, with the end of preferential treatment for EU citizens. That’s exactly what you want to hear if you’re a restaurant owner wanting trained Balti chefs.

            My main point remains that the first strategy should have been to deal with non-EU immigration. Train more doctors, nurses and IT specialists while your economy can afford it; encourage more employment opportunities in Sunderland and Swindon BEFORE the big car firms (who are only there because of seamless trade with the EU) close down and THEN think about leaving the EU. But it was easier to blame it all on the EU bogeyman – not much differently from Bush invading Iraq and trying to amalgamate it in the public mind with the attack on the twin towers which had nothing whatever to do with Iraq.

            The graph is worth a look, though.

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 8:18 am #

            Forgot the link!

            bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47400679

          • Slugoon June 15, 2019 at 2:16 pm #

            Immigration and sovereignty were probably the two biggest issues for Leavers. For me it was about sovereignty and the insidious nature of the EU and I would generally support GA’s position that immigration was whipped up in some people’s minds as the EU’s doing and the primary reason to leave. I’m sure you can find irrational reasons for voting on either side and how do we know that those Googling “What is the EU?” were predominantly Leavers or otherwise?

            However, I do believe that enforcing a sensible immigration policy, regardless of where in the world one might come from, is one of the primary functions of government and the fact remains that we cannot do that while in the EU, even if it presently accounts for less than half of the total.

            You could argue about the effects of wage compression in some of the service industry jobs you mention but there are plenty of lazy natives and the Eastern Europeans are some of the nicest and hardest working people you could meet.

            Unfortunately there is no reasoning with the EU. They are happy to take the money but it’s their integrationist way or nothing so people like me have got no other option than to go all in and bring the whole thing down. Go back to the EEC and I’ll be happy.

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 5:35 pm #

            Slugoon

            “Go back to the EEC and I’ll be happy.”

            Not arguing with that 🙂 .

            But I retain my serious concerns about our shuffling nearer and nearer to the US post-Brexit, with risks to our meaningful sovereignty there too.

            And not just in terms of our standards and regulations.

            I see Jeremy Hunt is yet again eagerly following the US line with regard to the tankers and Iran. He can’t do enough to proclaim that the US is right and has castigated Corbyn and others for ‘anti-Americanism’ for urging caution. Once Boris is in place he will do the same and more.

            Given how we followed the US into Iraq, I don’t like it. Last time the cheese-eating surrender monkeys got it right. We’re just fish-and-chip-eating surrender monkeys whenever the US demands our loyalty.

            No discourtesy intended to mere American citizens.

          • capt spaulding June 15, 2019 at 8:22 pm #

            Well, Slugoon, Millions of people voted for GWBush also, (twice) and look at what he did to the country. He almost drove us bankrupt. I understand many of the grievances of the right wing. The aftermath of 2008 soured many people on both the left and right on career politicians. I am one of those people too. For me, trying to talk to people on the far left as well as on the far right, seems to provoke most of them. Incivility is not just a disease of the right, the left can be just as bad, and frequently is. It seems like most people have lost the ability to discuss issues without resorting to name calling and bad behavior.

            I do have a group of friends, both left and right that I can discuss issues with, and we often end our discussions without reaching agreement on things, but I can respect that, just like I can respect your opinion. It’s not often, however that I can give an opinion anymore, without somebody taking offense at something I’m saying, and making things unpleasant. Maybe I’m too damn sensitive, but I still think that people in general, have lost the ability to speak calmly, and logically about things. I guess that’s why I think wearing swords openly would be a good start to promoting better attitudes among people. It’s just kidding of course, but only half kidding. I’d strap one on.

          • Slugoon June 16, 2019 at 11:20 am #

            Capt,

            I went to watch my local pro football (soccer) team play when I was a tad younger and we spent much of one particular game moaning and groaning about the extreme bias of the referee. Every free-kick and every throw-in was given against us and the game ended up being a terribly boring draw despite us having the better play.

            Leaving the stadium we got chatting to a couple of away fans, a novelty in itself since football can be a life or death issue at some UK grounds. “Enjoy the game?” We asked. The two gents then proceeded to tell use how biased the referee was against their side and had probably cost them the game since they had all the play.

            Now I’m the sort of chap who would applaud the opposing team for scoring a well-worked goal or some clever football so I like to think that I was viewing that game objectively.

            It just goes to show how easily other people can see the same thing in a completely different way. I try to remember that sometimes.

            (But GA is just wrong about Brexit… JOKING!)

        • EvelynV June 16, 2019 at 1:05 am #

          capt spaulding

          Why is it important people need to know what we think anyhow? People talk (and write on forums) mostly to hear themselves talk. Who cares if you bought yourself a new car or spent an hour looking before you found the right dress to buy? A dress you wore to a party that had all these neat people who are neat because they like to hear what you have to converse about, or do they really and just pay attention to your lips moving so that they know when they can tell you about the wonderful thing they did six years ago on a day just like the one you are experiencing with them now but now still isn’t as good as back then because lately they have been having sore knees and feeling a little bit down in the morning but at least they get to see their grandkids tomorrow and what did you say again about how you were going to spend your day…yawn…more cowbell –

    • Mountain gal June 17, 2019 at 6:41 am #

      What is a SJW?

  20. FincaInTheMountains June 14, 2019 at 2:22 pm #

    World War of the Roses in the Persian Gulf and its Surroundings

    I want to re-post the writing of Andrey Soyustov regarding the incident in Persian Gulf, but I still want to ask the most important question that the author asks to some extent, and immediately throws it into the basket:

    So what did Donald Trump want to tell Hassan Rouhani or even Ayatollah Ali Khamenei that Shinzo Abe was needed for that?

    And does it imply two other questions that answer the first most important question a little?

    And isn’t it about this message that the hit was made and does Trump already know who exactly struck this blow?

    Andrey Soyustov, Tanker War:

    Trump flies to Tokyo. He flies without Bolton, who had managed to fail more of the areas he supervises, than all previous generations of Boltons put together.

    Apparently, in Tokyo, Trump agrees on the mediation of Japan in resolving the American-Iranian conflict, which from a magic wand in the hands of Donald has already managed to turn into a weighty bob.

    Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe is sent to Iran on a visit with mediation powers.

    The Washington hawks, the Saudis and Israel follow all this mess with gastronomic interest.

    Then there two tankers emerge, on which, according to a subsequent statement by the Japanese Ministry of Commerce, there was a cargo “associated with Japan.”

    Tanker Number One: Kokuka Courageous, registered in Panama and owned by a Japanese shipping company. The tanker transported methanol from Saudi Arabia to Singapore.

    Tanker Number Two: Front Altair. It is owned by the Norwegian company Frontline and is flying the flag of the Marshall Islands. The tanker went with a cargo of petrochemical raw materials from the UAE to Taiwan.

    June 13 in the Gulf of Oman – fuck-tibiduck! – Suddenly explosions and fires occur on both tankers. The media, choking from delight, reported that the tankers were subjected to a torpedo attack and one of the tankers had already managed to sink.

    Ship-owners, being taken aback, say that on the ships, of course, there were high-powered fuck-tibiducks, but there were no torpedoes. What happened – a complete fuck-tibiduck, but about the torpedoes, none of the crew members said anything.

    As well as about the mines. As well as in general about some kind of attack. Just suddenly there was a fucking tibiduck with the accompanying pyro effect.

    By the way, none of the tankers sank.

    “It sank, it did! From torpedoes and mines! We can see better!” – chant the media and look at the States. States with an unkind squint look at Iran. The media, too, is beginning to look at Iran with an unkind squint, tentatively, in view of haste and irresponsibility, a couple of times with an unkind squint looking at the Saudis.

    But the Saudis with all of Riyadh immediately make the Big Surprised Eyes of the Hereditary Innocent Virgin and the media quickly run to look at Tehran with an unkind squint. It was not at all difficult to do, since all along the way someone carefully arranged English-language posters on which “Tehran is over there!” was written with an American accent.

    In the meantime, the Iranians are saving the crew of the burning “Norwegian”, including the Russians who were part of it. Americans at full steam, too, rush to save everyone, but they are accelerating in such a way that three times the entire destroyer rushes past the burning “Norwegian”…

    In general, Yankees don’t have time to save anyone. Out of despair, they rush to save the Japanese crew, on board of which there were not any Russians. Here is a coincidence for you!

    At the same time, the Yankees also saw on board a burning Japanese tanker a whole bunch of unexploded magnetic mines of characteristic national-Iranian shape. It is noteworthy that apart from the crew of the American destroyer, no one else noticed this bunch…

    Further reaction:

    – The Japanese government (in the air) – “Oh, fuck!”
    – Abe (to US) – “Full banzai! Fuck ya!”
    – US (to Tehran) – “Yes, yes, they flew off their reels!”
    – Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif (alaverdi) – “Fuck? You fuckers are fucked yourself in the head! Sorry … We have serious concerns about this incident, which suspiciously coincided with a visit to Tehran by Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe.”
    – The Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia (meekly) – “Is it time for us to express a serious concern?”
    – All (in chorus) – “YES!!! YES!!!”

    Russian Foreign Ministry expresses. The audience applauded. Tankers are festively burning. The price of oil runs up. Having waited for it to climb into the attic, the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation rushes into the Foreign Ministry of the Russian Federation and, from an excess of feelings, arranges hot nude dancing right on the desks.

    Iran feels like a star that is in shock.

    US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo: “The United States believes that Iran is responsible for attacks on tankers in the Gulf of Oman!” According to Pompeo, this opinion is based “on intelligence(?!) data, weapons used, the level of knowledge required for such an operation, recent similar attacks on ships and the fact that no proxy group in the region has such a level of training operations “.

    Iran – “But what the fuck?? …”

    US – “By no means!”

    Trump mournfully tweets: “I am very grateful to Prime Minister (Japan Shinzo) Abe for going to Iran and meeting with Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, but I personally think that it’s too early to even think about making a deal. ”

    Behind the curtain of the Oval Office, Bolton pulls kosher bourbon from the bottle, meaningfully winks at himself with both eyes and to the tune of “Sexbomb, sexbomb, you’re my sexbomb” singing “Deep State, Deep State! ..”

    Did I miss anything?

    Oh yes. Expired term of the Iranian nuclear ultimatum.

    Deep State, Deep State, you are my Deep State!

    youtube.com/watch?v=k3_KP6yUWEw

    • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 3:58 pm #

      Question: What’s up with “fuck-tibiduck?” First time I’ve ever seen or heard of that little gem. A new Finca version of the old time “fuck-a-duck” quip, perhaps?

    • Ol' Scratch June 14, 2019 at 4:05 pm #

      This is some pretty damn good biting satire you’ve got here, Finc. Well done!

      • Ol' Scratch June 15, 2019 at 7:14 am #

        Perhaps you’ll take a crack at your own Russian version of Thompson’s The Rum Diaries? Yours, of course, would be titled The Everclear Diaries, after your favored libation and preferred bong coolant. The Russian humor would of course be something new and challenging for a western audience, but it might just take off because of that too. Something to consider.

  21. BackRowHeckler June 14, 2019 at 2:53 pm #

    $33 million clams!!!

    Dig deep and pay up, Snowflakes.

    The only places ‘Woksterdom’ hasn’t wormed its way into (for the most part) and undermined is CFNation and the redneck gun club I shoot at out in Canaan.

    Woohoo!!!

    Brh

    • malthuss June 14, 2019 at 6:58 pm #

      33?

      • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 12:20 pm #

        “$33 million clams!!!”

        I was just thinking what classy chowder they must make 🙂 .

  22. RB June 14, 2019 at 3:12 pm #

    Just accept the idea that we hate each other with race and ethnicity being just one of the reasons. It will only get worse so embrace it while at the same time steering clear of events. The government i.e. courts will once again force togetherness with the schools. That idea failed and the schools are segregated again for the most part.

    Embrace climate change and welcome the thinning of the world’s herds of people. Once 7 billion are gone, the planet will rejuvenate. I’m optimistic and take the long view. Everest will once again go to ice and there will be a covering of bodies again.

    We are on the verge of outlawing being white and especially white male. The liberal whites will eventually come to see their errors but it will be too late. People of color want whites dead or enslaved. You might not believe that now but wait for it.

    The smart money is on relocating to more rural areas that are as white as you can find. But you have to be careful since some very white locations are engulfed with addicted people. Think WV. Find a nice college town and go quiet.

    I see much noise here when I think it would be prudent to discuss strategies for living a quiet and peaceful life. That cannot be done in any city of size.

    Where is Howard Beale?

    • Mountain gal June 15, 2019 at 7:46 am #

      @RB

      Totally with you. I need to find a new place to settle down after traveling for a while and living overseas. I’m torn between my own rural very white but cold snowy state versus someplace warmer such as NC or VA. I want to live in a rural locale far enough away from large cities. I have to confess I also want a place that’s fairly white but not full of meth heads with jacked up cars in front of their trailers. Looking for a place with some decent conservative political and social values but not neo-Nazi sorts(who would hate me anyway). Gotta be affordable too.

      I’m starting to feel the urgency of finding a place to call home again, starting a big garden, stocking up the woodpile etc. Trying not to let panic set in but it’s feeling really unsettled in the world these days. I want to have a place that’s a refuge for my son if he needs it too; living in a studio apartment and just shopping for groceries isn’t going to work if things get bad..

      • benr June 15, 2019 at 9:17 am #

        Forget VA I was there for 6 months stationed at Norfolk the state is a mess.
        I am considering NC how ever plenty of cheap land and nice people.

        • Doc Holliday June 16, 2019 at 10:55 am #

          Norfolk is not VA. I have lived West of Richmond for 39 years. It has been fairly low key and most of the area is semi-rural or very rural, and I enjoy it. A much better area than I was cursed with at birth, namely, Chicago, which I was fortunate enough and determined enough to leave by the time I was 18.

          • Nightowl June 16, 2019 at 3:50 pm #

            If VA, avoid NOVA. Richmond is a good place. Went to college there. Not rural ofc, but great and somewhat affordable housing options in the historic Fan District, if you can put up with the college kids. Richmond is proper South, too. Slow, relaxed, etc.

            If I had never moved to Europe, I’d move there in a sec.

          • Mountain gal June 17, 2019 at 6:46 am #

            I would only consider central or western VA, west of Charlottesville. I’d avoid any of the cities. Will see. My own state has gotten really pricey in any of the areas I’d be interested in. I literally can’t afford to buy what I sold there in the past few years. I may need to leave to find a home with land I can swing.

      • EvelynV June 16, 2019 at 12:51 am #

        You shouldn’t ever let panic set in. Someday you will get the news that you have been earmarked for extinction: Stroke, cancer, heart attack, fatal mishap…are you going to panic then or face your journey into the abyss with equanimity?

        I’m guessing it will be with bravery.

    • HowardBeale June 19, 2019 at 1:10 pm #

      I know where Howard Beale is, but where is John Galt?

  23. mj_crites June 14, 2019 at 3:49 pm #

    O’ God, The Evergreen State College, my useless alma matter. The less I hear about that place the better.

  24. 100th Avatar June 14, 2019 at 4:41 pm #

    “They were followed outside by one of the Bakery family members, Allyn Gibson.“

    If the store owner was named Hyun-seung Park, or Naveen Chakrabarti this never would have happened.

    • 100th Avatar June 14, 2019 at 5:06 pm #

      Because white people in positions of power at these institutions know their days are numbered. #sowhite. In order to buy time, they need to make a human sacrifice to the altar of wokeness. Gibson presented the perfect opportunity. Raimondo can both demonstrate her wokeness and buy time as yet another white person in position of power in the center of leftist/liberal lunacy.
      The college campus.
      She’s a dinosaur, and she knows it.

      If the owner was another American “minority” she would risk looking like a bully, but another similar entitled white woman? Glove are off.

      The Aztecs made similar sacrifices to keep the common classes at bay. More blood, but perhaps more dignity.

      • 100th Avatar June 14, 2019 at 5:15 pm #

        *similarly *gloves

        Also, Gibson is a white man. I mean, how can you not go after this baker of oppression and exploitation?

        • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2019 at 12:31 am #

          Yeah what’s up with that? Why do you hate them (us) so much? Enough to sic your Orcs on us….

      • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 5:58 pm #

        Yes, as the song says, Why does the sun go on shining? It bothers to get up because it knows that smoking hearts will be offered up to it that day on top of the Pyramids of Academia and the Ball Courts of Justice. Otherwise it would just take a nap and let us go into an Ice Age.

      • Mountain gal June 15, 2019 at 7:49 am #

        But what the wokesters don’t realize is that they will also be targets someday. They are just diggin their own graves because they think they are so “woke” they will be protected and seen as one of the good-guys.

  25. Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 5:53 pm #

    No one except idiot Evangelicals is taking these bombing claims seriously.

    Fox News:

    Chinese President Xi Jinping on Friday met with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani at a summit in Kyrgyzstan and reaffirmed Beijing’s willingness to develop ties with the country even as the U.S. placed the blame squarely on Tehran for the attack on two oil tankers near the Strait of Hormuz.

    Xi met with Rouhani privately at the Shanghai Cooperation Organization summit in Bishkek, Reuters reported. The Chinese leader promised to develop the relationship no matter how the situation changes.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 5:55 pm #

      Black Pigeon has a video up showing Iranians from an Iranian vessel removing a bomb attached to a Japanese vessel. Needless to say the Japanese know that the United States is ruled by unelected Globalist Warmongers and their hireling scum.

      • elysianfield June 15, 2019 at 1:02 pm #

        “Needless to say the Japanese know”

        Janos,
        And needless to say that no one should believe their God Damned Lying Eyes when it comes to video presented on the Internets….

  26. malthuss June 14, 2019 at 7:08 pm #

    Many point out how inverted reality is depicted on (((television. Virtually every commercial on TV features either blacks lecturing white people, black doctors/scientists/millionaires, and/or interracial couples.

    Criminals and the butt of jokes are always portrayed by white men. These propagated themes are now all painfully obvious to all of us who notice.

    But there are even more subtle layers of engineering going on in the most sterile of commercials. I just saw a commercial for a anti-diabetes drug where a doctor was talking with a group of patients.

    What was odd was that, save for one black man, every single one of the twenty or so patients was an old white person.

    Even though blacks are known to be two to three times more likely to develop diabetes than whites, the commercial intentionally skews the demographic reality of what a group of older diabetics would look like, I guess since that could potentially be seen as portraying blacks in a negative light. If the commercial tried to accurately portray an accurate demographic distribution of diabetes in the older population, a quarter or a third of the patients in the commercial should have been black.

    Meanwhile, in commercials for the national forests, half of the families depicted camping together are black.

    • malthuss June 14, 2019 at 7:09 pm #

      Only very ugly bus sign was for Uni Hospital, ugly nog holding White baby.

      AT LEAST THE SIGN WAS ON THE BACK OF THE BUS.

      • BackRowHeckler June 14, 2019 at 8:06 pm #

        Good thing nobody is watching TV anymore, Malth.

        The only progran I can stand are 60 year old reruns of Laramie, great story lines, good acting, realistic sets, and Hoagy Carmichael in the first few seasons.

        Brh

        • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 8:53 pm #

          What’s wrong with Gunsmoke, the Rifleman, or Bonanza? I never even heard of Laramie except as a place.

          • hmuller June 15, 2019 at 12:56 am #

            In the 1950’s and 60’s there were scores of westerns.

            By the 1990’s we were down to “Dr Quinn: Politically Correct Medicine Woman” which was not so much a western as a feminist manifesto about how white men had always been pigs.

            I remember Nick Adams as Johnny Yuma. Yes, he was a rebel, and he rode through the West. I was too young to understand why some people were so mean to him. Years later it occurred to me, “Dude, the war is over and you’re still wearing your confederate uniform.” Sadly, those were the only clothes Johnny Yuma had. Don’t ask me what happened on laundry day.

          • tucsonspur June 15, 2019 at 2:41 am #

            Don’t forget about Cheyenne or the “trencherman of discernment” and Shakespeare quoting Paladin.

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 9:54 am #

            “I never even heard of Laramie except as a place.”

            Goodness, Janos, where were you? Even I watched Laramie as a child. And ‘Rawhide’ and ‘Have Gun Will Travel’.

            Although we got RCMP too…

            I thought The Virginian was extremely dishy, a few years later…

          • hmuller June 15, 2019 at 4:43 pm #

            Come to think of it, on laundry day Johnny Yuma probably jumped into a creek fully clothed and beat himself on the rocks. They could do that sort of thing back then because they were real men.

            One thing I’ll say for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police – they had very tidy uniforms. I give credit to their dry cleaners. Now there’s an unexplored avenue for a Western:

            Herschel Birnbaum: Frontier Dry Cleaner. Oh, you better believe we get out blood stains.

    • tucsonspur June 14, 2019 at 8:27 pm #

      Malthuss, are you in good hands?

      • tucsonspur June 15, 2019 at 1:14 am #

        He’s at the intersection of racial awareness and racial acceptance or rejection.

        youtube.com/watch?v=7i_Y5lewEKY

        One ad has a young white girl speaking with his deep voice.
        Some people think it’s cute. Oh so cute.

    • Mountain gal June 15, 2019 at 7:55 am #

      Maybe 20 years ago or so a newspaper in a city in my very white state used to always manage to find a black person in an event or school to photograph and put in the paper. Reading that paper one would have imagined that the city was heavily black when in reality it was nearly all white then. I guess they were trying to portray how into diversity or something they were.I thought it was hilarious. Now the city has a lot more blacks and I don’t get the paper but I’m guessing they probably don’t print the pics of all the shooters and drug dealers because most are now black.

      To me so much of how media portrays people in commercials etc. is to perpetrate ideology. What’s that quote about repeating a lie enough times and people will believe it?

      • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2019 at 12:45 pm #

        Blacks are a horrible race. How foolish people you were to exalt them over Whites. Now you seek to escape your handiwork – but without admitting you all were ever wrong.

        • Mountain gal June 17, 2019 at 6:49 am #

          Why do you think I’m “you people”? Why is it my handiwork? You don’t even know me Janos. Or do you just assume that as a member of “the tribe” I must be an uber liberal sort who favors illegals, “diversity” and hates my fellow whites?

  27. malthuss June 14, 2019 at 7:10 pm #

    Marine Veteran accidentally cuts off another driver.

    Attempted to apologize at the next light, and is then gunned down in front of one of his daughters. At least he returned fire and killed the perp. Small comfort to his girls, who won’t have a dad around.

    dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7141581/Marine-veteran-41-shot-killed-road-rage-outburst.html

    Significant it is news in UK….around Nogs, beware. Had he raced
    illegally at 90 mph, he might be alive.

  28. aNanyMouse June 14, 2019 at 7:23 pm #

    Great work, JHK!
    A friendly quibble:
    The NYT did get to reporting the final disposition of the Oberlin libel suit the day after the big hit, tho their coverage was just north of trivial, and I can see how you’d have missed it.

    If you Googled “new york times oberlin punitive gibson’s” (in the News tab), the 1st page indeed showed no NYT news on this subject, after their long 10 June story on the compensatory damages.
    However, their site’s Search box does take you to an entry from yesterday, of a MUCH shorter (AP feed) story, on the putative damages award.

    So, rather than writing that they “did not even report the final disposition”, better wording would’ve been that they “showed a brutally brief (AP) report on the final disposition, which hardly did justice to the magnitude of what had emerged.”

    NYT’s longer !0 June story rather slobbered all over “expert” backers of Oberlin (e.g. the president of the Association of American Colleges and Universities, and “a First Amendment lawyer”), while showing no rebuttals of those backers. So it goes!

    • James Howard Kunstler June 15, 2019 at 8:53 am #

      NanyMouse– I did a search on the NY Times own search engine the day after the judgment and came up empty. — JHK Admin

    • aNanyMouse June 15, 2019 at 10:29 pm #

      Typo alert: Last sentence should read “NYT’s longer 10 June story….”

  29. Pucker June 14, 2019 at 8:08 pm #

    Should the Somali Refugees who are black also receive Reparations?

    nytimes.com/2019/06/14/opinion/gay-reparation-stonewall.html

  30. auburn June 14, 2019 at 8:11 pm #

    The NYT did report on the Oberlin case on June 13, 2019:

    Market Awarded $44M in Racism Dispute With Oberlin College

    nytimes.com/aponline/2019/06/13/us/ap-us-oberlin-college-racial-dispute.html

  31. Pucker June 14, 2019 at 8:31 pm #

    Chris Arnade basically paints a picture of a Liberalist and Globalist system that doesn’t work to create a viable, healthy community and civilization. Arnade says that the common American people ( black and white) are defaulting to drugs and racial identity as a way to find Community and Dignity. Society is Segregating. I think that it will be difficult to give people an honorable and meaningful economic role in society in the high tech “Smart” infrastructure that they’re rolling out which requires above average IQ’s and which may require importing even more H1B foreign IT workers? It doesn’t have anything to do with Race as these Indian and East Asian workers are imported for their IQ’s.

    “We have implemented policies that focus narrowly on one value of meaning: the material. We emphasize GDP and efficiency, those things that we can measure, leaving behind the value of those that are harder to quantify—like community, happiness, friendships, pride, and integration. We have created a system with economics as the central form of meaning and material goods as the primary form of valuation. In this system, education and credentials are central to economic success. We have created a society that is damningly unequal, not just economically but socially. We have said that education is the way out of pain and the way to success, implying that those who don’t make it out are dumb, or lazy, or stupid. This has ensured that all those at the bottom, educationally and economically—black, white, gay, straight, men, and women—are guaranteed to feel excluded, rejected, and, most of all, humiliated. We have denied many their dignity, leaving a vacuum easily filled by drugs, anger, and resentment.“

    Chris Arnade
    Dignity: Seeking Respect in Back Row America

    • Pucker June 14, 2019 at 8:50 pm #

      Arnade says that in many places in America there is no community infrastructure apart from the ubiquitous evangelical churches, bars, crack houses, heroin dens, abandoned buildings, and, as always, the local McDonalds. I suspect that perhaps to some extent the bad faith social justice warrior dogma and coercion on college campuses may really be about people segregating themselves and a way to find community and dignity in a world where they no longer have a place nor economic role in society? The social divisions are now driven largely by education and IQ rather than by Race, but it’s too embarrassing for people to admit that they fall short on the IQ scale, so they default to accusations of racism? The question is whether we should accept IQ divisions as “Just” divisions? The educational system implicitly accepts education and IQ distinctions as “Just”. But if we don’t accept education and IQ distinctions, then how can the high tech economy function? Reality is a bitch….

      Chris Arnade
      Dignity: Seeking Respect in Back Row America

    • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 8:56 pm #

      Don’t fall for this trickery, Puck. Dividing White and Black? We were already divided. They’re the ones who put us together in the first place and then exploited the crisis they created by so doing. When it doesn’t work what do they do? Blame Whites of course – and crack down even harder.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 8:58 pm #

      Dignity is the name of the pro-Gay Catholic group. Their dignity is at the price of Catholic integrity since the Church does not accept “Gay” as a legitimate identity.

      • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 6:13 am #

        The Church doesn’t accept sex before marriage as a legitimate activity either. What’s your position on that – reality or Church fantasy?

        • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2019 at 1:13 pm #

          It’s not as bad as sodomy – a sin which cries unto Heaven for Justice along with defrauding the worker.

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 1:55 pm #

            If God existed, I don’t think it would be up to you to create a hierarchy of sexual sins on his behalf.

            “a sin which cries unto Heaven for Justice…”

            Seriously, get a grip. We’re not talking about rape.

            Almost as many heterosexual men are into anal sex as homosexual ones.

            Maybe God doesn’t like blowjobs either?

          • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2019 at 5:36 pm #

            And a vagina is just a front hole, right? And Gay Marriage is the same as Hetero marriage. No additional benefit to society since “love is love”, right?

            Rememberest Thou, Lot, who offered his daughters up to the Queer Mob to assuage their lust rather than let them molest the young men (angels) who were his guests?

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 7:58 pm #

            Janos

            Well done for making up more ‘in other words’ nonsense and avoiding the question.

            Why am I not surprised?

  32. Pucker June 14, 2019 at 9:06 pm #

    According to the book recommended by Bill Cosby “Chase’n the Trane” about Jazz artist, John Coltrane, the Southern plantations allowed the slaves to keep their African musical heritage since singing and music was economically useful in encouraging the slaves to work long hours in the fields collectively. I recall that the Haitian slave soldiers under Toussiant would organize around singing and chanting mostly by Voodoo priests and priestesses. The blacks organize around music, which is a bit ironic since Jazz sounds to me like organized disorganization. But maybe I just don’t get it yet and I should listen to some more Coltrane? The Cosby recommended book on Coltrane is OK. I couldn’t get into it, and I didn’t finish it. Maybe I should….

  33. “Maybe Snack Cakes can explain why the revered New York Times would not report this news.”

    They did, at nytimes.com/aponline. The Associated Press did a Fine Job.

    Oberlin has been featured in many an NY Times analysis.

    It is true that I did not see this article in the Grey Lady, perhaps because I took a week off

    • hmuller June 15, 2019 at 1:04 am #

      Why was it only reported online? Isn’t the story fit to print? Isn’t it newsworthy?

  34. Pucker June 14, 2019 at 9:22 pm #

    Cosby and I are obviously not on the same frequency, but there is obviously some significant substance there with Cosby. I just don’t “Get It” yet. It’s like Cosby and I are from different dimensions, but, for some strange reason, we have something in common? Weird….

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2019 at 12:20 am #

      The future is Juggalo. I mean these people realized we were in Clown World twenty years ago.

      Clown check!

      youtube.com/watch?v=zJ8ANRpMWMY

      Some comrades will not be able to cross this Rubicon/Jordan with us. BRH will have to remain on the other side, watching Laramie.

  35. BackRowHeckler June 14, 2019 at 9:23 pm #

    Does anybody know, these illegals coming in — 100,000 per month apparently — are they eligible for welfare? Are they arriving with any money? What do they live on when they are released into the country? Do cities like Phoenix and San Diego have extra cash in their budgets to take care of these new arrivals? How many poor people can the system bear in any given year? Out of the roughly 4 billion poverty stricken people in the world, how many are we expected to take in? The rule seems to be now if you can make it here, you’re in. Will these questions be honestly discussed at the Dem candidates debates? I read 2 or 3 newspapers per day, you’d think I’d already know the answer to these important questions, but I don’t; the media doesn’t seem too interested in covering these issues.

    Brh

    • SoftStarLight June 15, 2019 at 3:37 am #

      That’s correct. It’s because the establishment does not consider the invasion a real issue. And to the extent that some of them think of this issue at all its in terms of money and business. Absolutely migrants are using welfare in every way they can. They are guranteed a free education no matter how burdened the school system is. They get free emergency room healthcare. And on and on. The establishment doesn’t care as long as there is a constant availability of cheap labor. Money money money.

  36. wm5135 June 14, 2019 at 9:35 pm #

    As I read today’s comments it appears that some of our fellows put their complete trust and faith in 1/2 the media.

    Thought i heard Marvin Gaye, “Ain’t That Peculiar”

    Some extraordinary event occured on 9/11 on purpose and as planned. The purpose was acheived, the citizens of the United States have forfieted large portions of their dignity and courage to unreasoning fear.

    I believe it was shotho castigating the “snow flakes”. Take a look around bucko, it’s a fucking blizzard out there.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 14, 2019 at 11:57 pm #

      Yet some still rail against “Conspiracy Theory”. And a few even against “Xenophobia” – as if loving your own people isn’t natural. Or as if one doesn’t have the right to be afraid or feel negatively about columns of brown men marching in that reach back to the horizon.

      Any man, or I should say, any man who is a Man, will feel negatively towards strange men coming into their lands uninvited – even to the extent of feeling hatred. Of course these negative feelings will have to be shared with those traitors who enabled the strange men in gaining entry in the first place.

  37. auburn June 15, 2019 at 12:12 am #

    While some want to continue the culture wars and racial nonsense, in the real world renewable energy just passed the tipping point.

    Total available installed generating capacity in the USA:

    257.48 gigawatts : Coal

    257.53 gigawatts: Renewable energy

    Number of new units installed in 2019:

    0 … coal-fired power plants

    102 … solar units (1,473 megawatts)

    18 … wind units (1,545 megawatts)

    Mr. Trump can remove all the regulations, and provide all the stimulus he wants, but coal is on a path to extinction.

    Now you can continue with your culture wars and important campus news.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2019 at 12:28 am #

      The coal industry was savaged by Obama and largely ignored for decades. Of course it’s not doing so good right now. But we need that Black Gold!

      • benr June 15, 2019 at 9:24 am #

        Actually Bill Clinton started the attack on coal when he placed large amounts of low sulfur coal off limits.
        The low sulfur coal is more desirable.

    • Exscotticus June 15, 2019 at 12:52 am #

      >>> Total available installed generating capacity in the USA

      Your post is very misleading. It suggests that half our energy is supplied by coal, and the other half by renewables. FALSE. The vast overwhelming majority of our energy is supplied by hydrocarbons. This includes oil, natural gas, and coal. Renewables account for about 11%. And this is with renewables receiving nearly 50% of all energy subsidies.

      >>> but coal is on a path to extinction

      Of course it is and always was. It takes millions of years for dead things to turn into coal. And we’re using it up faster than it can be replenished. Plus we need to save some of that peat for my Scotch.

      Your ignorance is in imagining that Trump is against renewables. Did he say that? Do you have links? Why do you think he imposed massive tarrifs on cheap Chinese solar panel imports? He gave the USA solar industry exactly what they asked for: a level playing field. And the tariffs have helped.

      Cutting massive government subsidies from renewables is yet another way of leveling the energy playing field and encouraging market forces. Recall that Obama invested hundreds of millions in Solyndra. What did taxpayers get in return? THE BILL. This is what happens when governments try to micromanage markets and pick winners and losers.

      My electric bill comes with choices. I can pay far more for renewables, or far less for hydrocarbons. Guess what I choose? When renewables are as cheap or cheaper than hydrocarbons, you won’t need coercion from the Left or from the government to make the switch. It will happen all on its own.

    • SoftStarLight June 15, 2019 at 3:23 am #

      Its interesting because renewable energy production requires the use of fossil fuels, oil based products, etc. So how are you decreasing overall energy use? And being concerned about energy consumption doesn’t mean somehow that one can’t also be concerned with cultural and racial issues. You’ve heard of multi-tasking?

      • benr June 15, 2019 at 9:27 am #

        Your not that is the big lie and the renewable I laugh at the term platforms will be attacked for the problems they bring.
        Wind mills are ugly and kill birds.
        Solar farms are ugly take up large areas of space and some of them also fry birds.
        A huge one built using billions has shut down and never really got started it was frying birds in flight.

        • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 9:39 am #

          benr

          “Wind mills are ugly and kill birds.”

          Aeroplanes are ugly and noisy and kill birds. Sometimes they kill the people who fly in them too.

          Hunters are ugly and kill birds, even song thrushes, chaffinches and robins.

          theguardian.com/environment/2015/aug/26/conservationists-appalled-at-illegal-killing-of-25m-birds-a-…

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 9:41 am #

            #notallhunters 🙂

          • SoftStarLight June 15, 2019 at 12:09 pm #

            Shameful clearly, but what does this have to do with renewable energy? Wind turbines kill hundreds of thousands of birds in North America each year and the idea is that their use will only increase in the future. So more bird carnage is to be expected. Both issues trouble me but the concern of wind turbines killing thousands and perhaps millions of birds on a larger scale is just as legitimate.

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 12:27 pm #

            If hunters are killing 25 million illegally, and I don’t know how many planes are killing, I’m just saying maybe it’s not maybe the best argument against wind turbines.

            I just saw the other night that (leaving aside diesel particulates altogether) 14,000 tons (I think it was 14k and not 140k) of plastic microparticles end up in the seas around Britain from British roads. That’s the proportion that doesn’t end up in people’s lungs, including young children’s whose lungs aren’t yet fully developed.

            Are you going to oppose the use of cars? This won’t stop with electric ones.

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 12:28 pm #

            NB 25 million is just Europe and the ME.

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 12:43 pm #

            Sorry, too many maybes – sometimes life is one great big ‘perhaps’…

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 12:50 pm #

            I should have said from tyres and brake linings – and material from the roads themselves ends up in the air too (and from thence to rivers and seas – and some to fish and back to people again…).

          • elysianfield June 15, 2019 at 1:07 pm #

            “Hunters are ugly and kill birds, even song thrushes, chaffinches and robins”

            Alba,
            Don’t get me started on Blue Jays…..

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 1:26 pm #

            EF

            People hunt bluejays?

            Or was that sarc?

            We don’t have them. I’m familiar with the name but just looked them up – beautiful!

            I’m easily pleased and love cute little house wrens. Ours are tiny like little fluffy brown golfballs. Unfortunately also very shy, so you don’t see them much.

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 1:28 pm #

            Getting back to windfarms…

            I think possibly the aesthetics of wind farms are not entirely pure and depend to some extent on the pre-existing non-aesthetic views of the observer.

            They’re big in Scotland. Offshore wind is going to be a very big deal. The oil and gas may be running out but the wind sure ain’t.

            And even when they’re onshore, most people don’t mind them at all. Hence my first point – people who favour fossil fuels are possibly biased in advance, but then most of them wouldn’t want to live beside the Athabasca tar sands – and let’s not even start on the environment damage over there.

            From Wiki: “In 2003, MORI Scotland was commissioned by the Scottish Executive to undertake a study examining the attitudes of people living close to Scottish wind farms. The survey showed that people living near Scotland’s ten largest wind farms strongly support more of Scotland’s energy needs being produced by the wind. 82% wanted an increase in electricity generated from wind power, whilst more than 50% supported an increase in the number of wind turbines at their local wind farm…”

            “In 2013, a YouGov energy survey concluded that:

            “New YouGov research for Scottish Renewables shows Scots are twice as likely to favour wind power over nuclear or shale gas Over six in ten (62%) people in Scotland say they would support large scale wind projects in their local area, more than double the number who said they would be generally for shale gas (24%) and almost twice as much as nuclear (32%). Hydro power is the most popular energy source for large scale projects in Scotland, with an overwhelming majority (80%) being in favour.”

            Different strokes for different folks.

            The main negative for me is that they generate complacency as well as electricity, for the reasons that we both agree on about their dependence on a fossil fuelled economy (not to mention that the bulk of rare earth minerals belong to our friend, China).

            But if you want the oil to last as long as possible and to do less damage than it might, it seems sensible to leverage some of what we have to support renewables for the duration.

          • SoftStarLight June 15, 2019 at 2:07 pm #

            IMO windfarms are ugly but a wind turbine here and there is I guess ok. Not that the arrangement would help from the energy perspective. And you know many regions aren’t suitable for wind energy anyway. And its not a bad idea to try to be as car free as possible. But there is no good answer because the way things are now the world altogether is consuming more resources than ever before.

          • Tate June 15, 2019 at 3:41 pm #

            Anybody ever eaten Robin meat? Not the English Robin, the American one. I’ve heard it tastes swell. There should be a season. I could shoot right off my back porch.

          • benr June 15, 2019 at 6:30 pm #

            It’s a great argument since I would guess you have none anywhere near you.
            I on the other hand live very close to a massive wind farm and it is ugly and have personally seen dead hawks and even turkey buzzards.
            If you have never seen them up close the tip speed on some of those blades is ridiculous and they dwarf anything around them.
            We have a famous east coast political family that utterly flipped out when they found out a wind farm was goin in near them can you guess who?

            As far as hunters killing birds what a non sequitur you can do much better.

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 8:07 pm #

            benr

            I don’t have one right near me because I live in a city, but it’s hard to go far country-wise without seeing wind turbines.

            People used to think trains were ugly and ruined the landscape.

            I sympathise with you if you have them really nearby and don’t like them. There are a couple of nuclear power stations along the coast from me and they’re not the most beautiful addition to the coastline view. There’s a non-monetary price to be paid for any kind of energy.

            We’ve got a lot of offshore wind and the farms can look quite majestic from a distance, although Trump didn’t think so at his Really Important Golf Course up in Aberdeenshire!

            People playing golf being so much more important than ordinary people requiring energy, obviously..

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 8:08 pm #

            And hunters killing 25 million birds illegally is not nothing.

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 8:09 pm #

            The Italians are among the worst – and far and away the worst in Europe. It’s not as if there’s nothing else to eat in Italy, so they’re not performing any useful function like a turbine.

          • elysianfield June 15, 2019 at 8:56 pm #

            Alba,
            Well, sometimes they may be considered a target of opportunity. They are illegal to shoot…however, they are corvids, relatives of the crow and raven. Crows and Ravens can be dissuaded from predating orchards, by law….

            Jays, in packs, will attack a hazelnut tree and over several days will eliminate the entire crop.

            They are the Nazi’s during the Blitz, The hazelnuts are London, and I am the RAF…

            Did you know that a flock of Crows is sometimes referred to as a “murder” of crows?

            Well, a flock of Bluejays is sometimes referred to as a “filthy bastards” of Jays…

          • GreenAlba June 16, 2019 at 6:04 am #

            EF

            “The hazelnuts are London, and I am the RAF…”

            Love it 🙂 . Sounds like some of those scenes we created to get our toddlers to eat their peas.

            Yes I know about the ‘murder of crows’.

            I believe farmers have the right to kill predatory birds (although not protected birds of prey, like eagles, which nevertheless fly off with young lambs in some areas).

            This isn’t about farmers, but about people who eat thrushes and nightingales – because they’re there.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2019 at 12:48 pm #

          Watch Hitchcock’s “The Birds”. Birds are the enemy. Birds are little dinosaurs.

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 12:52 pm #

            I’ve seen it many times. I know they’re little dinosaurs – they’re so beautiful that’s always been a source of wonder to me.

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 1:50 pm #

            I didn’t mean crows were beautiful, BTW, but maybe some people like them.

          • SoftStarLight June 15, 2019 at 2:11 pm #

            Emus especially look like dinosaurs don’t you think?

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 3:05 pm #

            Possibly, SSL. They wouldn’t win many beauty competitions, except in the jolie-laide category, maybe!

          • Tate June 15, 2019 at 3:44 pm #

            Huge eyes. Ever stared off an emu at eye level? I have.

          • hmuller June 15, 2019 at 4:58 pm #

            So Tate, who won the staring contest? You or the Emu?

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 5:47 pm #

            “Ever stared off an emu at eye level? I have.”

            So did Rod Hull, regularly.

            https://i.pinimg.com/736x/46/b4/8e/46b48e1b784541e869d6ec0b7b6cebdb–emu-bird-bird-puppet.jpg

            Slugoon will remember this:

            youtube.com/watch?v=kek1vs6bM2k

          • Tate June 15, 2019 at 10:25 pm #

            It was at the National Western Stock Show. A Deputy Sheriff arrived just in time.

          • Exscotticus June 15, 2019 at 11:20 pm #

            >>> Birds are little dinosaurs.

            It is noteworthy how terrible creatures become adorable when you shrink them down some. Domestic cats are a good example. Stone-cold serial killers—every last one. They kill even when they’re not hungry. They often torture their prey, too. BUT… they so cute!

          • GreenAlba June 16, 2019 at 5:10 am #

            I don’t know, Exscotticus. I have a friend with two cats who says in jest that cats only sit on your lap so that they’ll know when you’ve gone cold 🙂 .

  38. FincaInTheMountains June 15, 2019 at 1:51 am #

    American colleges and universities definitely play the role of the Cistercian monasteries, which under the direction of Continental Valois dynasty sowed discord and strife in English society of the 15th century during the War of the Roses.

    Catherine de’ Medici of the House of Valois, the most influential female politician of the 16th century, initiator of St. Bartholomew’s Day massacre of 1572

    upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e8/Catherine-de-medici.jpg

    Hillary Clinton:

    wap.kaiwind.com/ltjx/201605/24/W020160524803096422577.jpg

    Hillary is indeed a great politician – the last time such a woman appeared in history in 1519 and her name was Catherine de Medici – but in this case she never expected that Heinrich of Navarre was her confidant and that he would come to the forefront of history under her order.

    Clinton, heading the Black World project, believes that the US’s task is to destroy Russia as a Katechon, let it be at the cost of its own death, and the people of the USA are expendable.

    From hate for Trump, she has gone a little crazy and now all the provocations against Russia are in fact directed against Trump. She expects that if relations between Russia and the United States deteriorate so much that the accusations of cooperation with the Russians will not have to be proved, then Trump can simply be arrested and shot while trying to escape with his family.

    Then take it up with Pence, as in their time, Harriman and Dulles took up with Truman, and James Rowley and Edward Hoover took up with Johnson.

    • Ol' Scratch June 15, 2019 at 7:03 am #

      The old girl is not holding up well physically at all, though. It’s almost like she’s sucking the remaining life force out of BillyJeff, as she’s getting more rotund(!!!) as he wastes away to a skeletor. No doubt she’s still busting his balls mightily for dragging her through the muck with his little tête-à-tête with young Ms. Lewinsky all those years ago. That single rather humiliating event probably doomed her political career electorally.

    • ZrCrypDiK June 25, 2019 at 9:44 am #

      “Have you heard the news today – OH BOY!” Yeah, my first GF in HS had that Oberlin advert/pamphlet and ended up going there in ’86 (liberal arts or sum such).

      Wow give those thieves $millions$ – it’s the new America! Armed robbery next step (just get CAUGHT and sue – hah!)?!…

  39. SoftStarLight June 15, 2019 at 3:06 am #

    Every action has a reaction and this one apparently costs a lot. It’s nice to see that the Cultural Communists lost this round but unfortunately the damage has been done. These same people still hold the levers of power in just about every nook and cranny of existence. And to this point dissent is successfully being incrementally censored and shadow banned. Serious talk of reparations in Congress is only the beginning. The fulfillment of the dreams of these Cultural Communists will only come when the last remaining vestiges of traditional America are snuffed out. So don’t expect this isolated setback to stop their momentum whatsoever.

  40. Pucker June 15, 2019 at 3:13 am #

    I’m glad that I’m not addicted to drugs or alcohol. I’m also glad that I don’t find Pride or Community in drugs, alcohol, or being a Homosexual or a Transgender.

    • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2019 at 6:40 am #

      Big ‘Pride’ parade today in Middletown, the 1st annual.

      Its being promoted on local TV news like its the greatest event ever to befall the state.

      The message is “if you don’t go, you are a hater”.

      Mom, dad, bring the kids.

      Brh

      • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 8:38 am #

        “The message is “if you don’t go, you are a hater”.”

        Maybe that’s just the message you’re hearing, brh. I’ve never been to a gay pride march, nor could I be bothered going anywhere near one. I do recall, many years ago when I had a car, being told that the reason for the traffic jam I was stuck in was a gay pride march in town and I just harrumphed mildly and inwardly like everyone else probably did, not specifically because it was gay pride.

        I might march if gay people were being routinely attacked or judicially oppressed – in fact I probably would now that I have a charming gay nephew and my husband was surprised (like her parents) to find he has a charming gay niece (we always knew she was charming – she was a cute flower girl at our wedding – just not that she was gay). Otherwise it’s their thing and I don’t care.

        • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 8:45 am #

          I’d be more worried about the gun running – there you have my sympathy.

          Apparently guns are being brought into the UK from the US by claiming they are ‘vintage’ collection items. If you can get one classified as such, even if it still works perfectly fine for all potentially illegal purposes, it’s a neat loophole for increasing gun ownership, and entrepreneurial middle men are going over and getting them to order.

          • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2019 at 1:56 pm #

            Well, it was between the ‘Pride’ parade (Event Marshalls: 5 dudes in drag, leading the parade) and a strawberry shortcake festival at a Methodist Church in a rural village about 25 miles west of here.

            We chose the latter.

            Brh

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 2:13 pm #

            I would have done too, brh 🙂 .

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 2:21 pm #

            brh

            a9z6i6s9.stackpathcdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Pride-Edinburgh-2.jpg

            That’s a gay pride march in Edinburgh. If it weren’t for the placards they could be there to listen to the Pope! There’s a distinct lack of weird.

          • Hey- use your noodle. Smart guns don’t run. Stop gun running. Get a smart gun.

          • benr June 16, 2019 at 9:44 am #

            That’s a gay pride march in Edinburgh. If it weren’t for the placards they could be there to listen to the Pope! There’s a distinct lack of weird. -ga

            My first introduction to a Pride parade involved walking around a corner in Hillcrest to go to the farmers market and seeing a large and I do mean rotund man in buttless chaps, sandels and nothing else with a bottle of Vasoline glued to the buttless chaps.
            The pride parade in San Diego runs the spectrum of bizarre, disgusting and normal. Not something you want to take young children to. Unless you want a top skill like the below.

            dailywire.com/news/39409/11-year-old-boy-dressed-drag-dances-gay-men-bar-amanda-prestigiacomo

          • GreenAlba June 16, 2019 at 10:35 am #

            benr

            I don’t like the sound of that any more than you do (and certainly don’t approve of the exploitation described in the newspaper article).

            My preference is for ‘understated’. And I don’t go to parades anyway – it’s not my thing.

            This is a bit in your face for me too in a public street and not a hint of LGBT about it! I imagine it’s very popular, though…especially for those er…following up the rear.

            entertainspree.files.wordpress.com/2015/08/rihanna-split.jpg

            (Notting Hill Carnival, London).

        • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2019 at 12:52 pm #

          You’re mind is so captured by all this malarkey that you don’t have to physically attend. You are ONE with Big Brother/Sister/Tranny.

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

            Your ignorance and lack of reading comprehension do you no credit, Janos.

      • malthuss June 15, 2019 at 8:16 pm #

        check- youtube–Black Pigeon on ‘pride in Japan.’

    • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 9:27 am #

      “I’m glad that I’m not addicted to drugs or alcohol. I’m also glad that I don’t find Pride or Community in drugs, alcohol, or being a Homosexual or a Transgender.”

      And we rejoice in your gladness, Pucker.

      But maybe… we shouldn’t?

      9 Then Jesus told this story to some who had great confidence in their own righteousness and scorned everyone else: 10 “Two men went to the Temple to pray. One was a Pharisee, and the other was a despised tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed this prayer ‘I thank you, God, that I am not like other people—cheaters, sinners, adulterers. I’m certainly not like that tax collector! 12 I fast twice a week, and I give you a tenth of my income.’

      13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance and dared not even lift his eyes to heaven as he prayed. Instead, he beat his chest in sorrow, saying, ‘O God, be merciful to me, for I am a sinner.’ 14 I tell you, this sinner, not the Pharisee, returned home justified before God. For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”

      Luke 18:9-14 (NLT)

      • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 9:29 am #

        I wouldn’t mention it of course, except for y’all being very Christian and righteous an’ all on here.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2019 at 12:56 pm #

        But sin is still sin. The Pharisee’s sin is self righteousness. And nobody is more self righteous than Gays. So they are double sinners in their identity and their pride about it.

        Liberals don’t believe in Sin in the first sense, but only the second. Anything goes except criticizing anything goes. And then you actually project this onto Christ. Shame on you.

        • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 2:04 pm #

          I’m not into ‘anything goes’. Don’t make stuff up.

          And ‘pride’ sometimes just means ‘I won’t be shamed’ (by ignorant people).

          The over-the-top stuff I have no time for, whether it’s gays or heterosexuals.

          Perhaps you could turn your attention to the Pornucopia, where you can watch women (and girlz/sluts/whores/whatever else men enjoy calling them) being humiliated and degraded in every imaginable way for the titillation of those nice heteros.

          It would be a change for you.

          • benr June 15, 2019 at 6:33 pm #

            How the hell do you know all these porn sites you must be a real freak.

          • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 8:23 pm #

            I don’t watch them, benr. I’ve read plenty about them. I don’t think they’re a great addition to modern life, although many would beg to differ.

            An early source was the ‘Illusion of love’ chapter in Chris Hedges’ ‘Empire of Illusion’, which you’ve possibly read too. I’ve read other books that include in-depth interviews with users, how they talk about the women and how it makes them see women.

            But none of it matters because gays…

          • benr June 16, 2019 at 9:47 am #

            Nope I have not read that book as you probably well know.
            I treat my wife right and If I don’t I better not sleep.

            The part about porn you discuss I have heard as well but what about the part porn plays in how men see themselves?

          • GreenAlba June 16, 2019 at 10:13 am #

            benr

            The chapter is decrying the porn, not advertising it. The author went personally to the film studios to get (and pass on to the reader) the full flavour and talked to the performers – and with the knowledge and support of his wife.

            So I don’t know why you wouldn’t read it – it’s an interesting book. There are chapters on ‘The illusion of literacy’, ‘The illusion of Wisdom’, ‘The illusion of Happiness’ and ‘The Illusion of America’.

            I’m sure you’d agree with most of it. And I haven’t the slightest doubt about the way your treat your wife.

    • James Hansen June 15, 2019 at 5:58 pm #

      So your’re saying that you don’t have any fun at all? How about pot?

  41. Pucker June 15, 2019 at 3:38 am #

    The Tabascans were a Mayan tribe in confederation with the Aztecs who fought Cortes in 1519 in the Yucatán. Cortes used the fig leaf of peaceful offers of “trade” as a segue to his conquest of the Aztecs similar to what the Americans do to various resource rich countries, or the Chinese do to the Americans today.

    Buddy Levy
    Conquistador: Hernan Cortes, King Montezuma, and the Last Stand of the Aztecs

  42. SoftStarLight June 15, 2019 at 4:02 am #

    Thousands of migrants in ICE detention have been quarantined after being exposed to mumps and/or chicken pox.

    cnn.com/2019/06/14/politics/mumps-chicken-pox-quarantine-ice/index.html

    No matter what, they will definitely be staying. We know of about 133,000 that made it through in May. The June total will probably be higher. How many got through undetected. Where were they from? Were they sick and with what? How long can a country go on this way before it reaches a breaking point?

    • There were a million per year on el jefe’s watch and the sky didn’t fall.

      Today those people are making beds, blowing leaves, pounding roofs, and paying rent. Should have gotten into the apartment building ownership biz.

      • benr June 15, 2019 at 11:05 am #

        And stealing peoples identities, robbing, stealing, selling drugs, running prostitutes, welfare fraud, drunk driving, raping and every other crime you can think of and yes for some people the sky did in fact fall!

      • SoftStarLight June 15, 2019 at 11:51 am #

        Yes this has been going on for a very long time so there is no surprise that the country has already been fundamentally transformed. Are you an NYC slumlord? Have a stake in the status quo? Massive unrelenting immigration is great for business it’s clear. Money above all. That is the creed of greed. But its unsustainable and won’t last forever. The downsides are tremendous. Did you know that roughly 25% of all inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens? And for instance in Arizona, illegal aliens are 142% more likely to be convicted of a crime compared to native born Arizonans. A substantial majority of all immigrants receive welfare benefits. The incredible influx also puts a massive strain on public schools and hospitals. And then the impact of this growth on existing infrastructure is huge. And demand for energy use is gonna skyrocket and sprawl and environmental devastation will only increase. So its a bad deal for an ordinary Americans.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2019 at 12:58 pm #

          Yes, the damage is cumulative. It adds up. Didn’t this guy used to be on our side? Guess he started taking his meds or something….

          • SoftStarLight June 15, 2019 at 2:18 pm #

            You know its funny because at one point it seemed as if he was like White Nationalist lite. He used to talk about the Wall and an immigration ban. He even one time told me to enjoy the pre-Wall era while it lasted. Unfortunately though I don’t think he was actually there yet. I hope it will change one day.

          • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2019 at 5:03 pm #

            Snacks is all over the place.

            His best post to date is the one where he encouraged ICBM nuclear strikes on coal fired power plants in China and Russia, in order to cool the planet.

            Brh

  43. BackRowHeckler June 15, 2019 at 6:32 am #

    Gun ‘Buy Back’ program in Hartford today.

    You can turn your guns in at a designated location staffed by police, no questions asked. In return you get a chit that can be used at a local grocery store, But I’ve heard these chits are traded for more guns, drugs, alchohol, sneakers and prostitutes. The stated goal is to “get guns off the street”, yet as we have seen in London, when guns are not available, Homey stabs you, or throws a cup of sulfuric acid in you face. Really this gun buyback scheme benefits criminals more ways than one. Most of the guns turned in are stolen from whitey in the suburbs as the result of burglaries and car break ins. Then they are used in various crimes, some pretty serious. But the police are prevented from investigating where the gun came from, and who possesed it, and what crimes it was used to commit. In effect, the police are abetting criminals in disposing of evidence, its all legal. Everybody’s happy. As a topper, your valuable Colt Python that got stolen in a burglary when you were out working for a living, you don’t get it back. They say these turned in guns are destroyed, but I wonder how many of them end up in the private collections of high level police officers.

    Brh

    • Ol' Scratch June 15, 2019 at 6:54 am #

      So basically a government sponsored gun disposal and upgrade program! Beautiful!

    • Smart guns will solve the theft problem.

      • benr June 15, 2019 at 11:02 am #

        No it will just drive the cost of guns up.
        You think a biometric device can’t be thwarted.
        A good gun safe thwarts gun theft.

      • elysianfield June 15, 2019 at 1:12 pm #

        “Smart guns will solve the theft problem.”

        SnakPak,
        Yeah…after we get rid of the three to four hundred million of the dumb ones….

        How much are they paying for handguns?

        • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2019 at 5:10 pm #

          $200

          Not cash but grocery store vouchers.

          It doesn’t seem like much, but since most of the guns are stolen its all profit.

          Like I mentioned its no questions asked so its a good way to dispose of hot guns and guns used in various crimes.

          At the end of the day everybody is happy and feels good about themselves. And that’s what matters most.

          Brh

          • elysianfield June 15, 2019 at 9:05 pm #

            $200?

            Jesus, I bet I have at least 15 junkers, broken, sick lame and lazy, that I could sell…almost worth a trip to the East Coast to cash them in. Buy Olive oil and other luxuries for the long haul.

            I mean, I know this guy that has the junkers…not me…I met this guy at the gas station…said his name was Leroy….

          • benr June 16, 2019 at 9:50 am #

            Damn buy a dozen used high point 9mm and make some money.

  44. See an important documentary in select theaters now. Little Big Farm. I predict it will win the academy award this year for best doc.

  45. GhostOfHam June 15, 2019 at 11:29 am #

    $44 million dollar Donut.

    America is the hole between the sugary goodness.

  46. volodya June 15, 2019 at 12:06 pm #

    The descent into madness has been long apparent to anyone with eyes and ears. And so now the Oberlin court case brings into focus the state of the liberal order of things. But it’s not just the progressive intelligentsia that’s way off its rocker.

    Self -described “conservatives” had been devoted for decades to a framework of ideas on economics and government and society underpinned by preposterous illogic but nonetheless stoutly defended by people presenting themselves as accomplished in various fields, for example serious intellectuals from the academic world but also in practical areas like business and, not least, by churchmen ostensibly concerned with spiritual and moral issues. The mystery for the ages is how such nonsense got a toe-hold in the first place never mind such a long life in the public realm.

    What it all required was blind adherence to a set of notions which bore no remote relationship to what existed on the ground for real people in real families living in actual towns and cities, and none of which addressed real individual and societal needs as they’ve been at least since Sapiens started making cave paintings.

    And nobody with an ounce of sense believed any of it, legions of Republican supporters voting GOP out of tribal affiliation rather than out of any real belief in the poppy-cock spouted by political charlatans.

    And so it didn’t take much to blow down the whole stupid contraption, just Trump with a few huffs and puffs on the campaign trail. And the Flakes and McCains and Romneys and Ryans were left fulminating in outrage but floundering with no valid responses, the cause of their lives exposed with no real effort by a multiple bankrupt and show-biz buffoon to have been nothing but a low-down con. Because what it all boiled down to, once you got past the economic baffle-gab and the born-again pieties and gun-rights patriotism, was enrichment for a small coterie of insiders and ruin for everyone else. That’s all it was.

    Yeah, yeah, I know, Trump is one reprehensible human being on multiple levels, unqualified for the august position he holds. But he did the USA a great service in calling bullshit on the “globalist” agenda that not only the Republican political elite but also their Democrat counterparts worked for two generations to put into effect.

    Conservatism, in the Republican incarnation, is a monumental fraud, unworkable, absurd, illogical, designed from the beginning for the benefit of a few, those entrusted with selling it either in the political realm, or from an academic standpoint, or from perches in think-tanks, or as media pundits, fraudsters on a truly impressive scale.

    What I’d like to see is what Republicans spout when the Age of Trump is over. Economic nationalism? A chicken in every pot? A car in every garage? I give it even odds that once Trump retires the Republicans Party gives up the ghost, collapsing like Soviet communism, nobody believing its lies or even pretending to.

    • SoftStarLight June 15, 2019 at 12:20 pm #

      There isn’t any alternative or solution in the mainstream anymore. We have reached a point where our problems are way too complex and convoluted for any normal poltical process to resolve them. There isn’t consensus, will, or clarity of foresight to do so apparently. So we are hurtling into chaos and darkness. Lets just hope there is a brighter place beyond the darkness.

      • volodya June 15, 2019 at 12:56 pm #

        SSL, People might say to me, ok smart-ass, what do you propose? And it’s a valid question. But I would answer it by saying that we should never have embarked on this fool’s errand of sending everything not bolted down to China and Mexico. I argued against it from day-one, arguing that it would be a monumental blunder to build up China into a world power and a giant misapprehension thinking that a five thousand year-old civilization would get all loosey-goosey liberal. And especially it would wreck the livelihoods of millions of people in industrialized states.

        But that’s water under the bridge. Those factories aren’t coming back. The problems in the US and in much of the formerly industrialized world aren’t fixable by governments that no longer have the financial means, but also no longer have the collective intellect to get anything done. It just isn’t there.

        So what to do? Big problems aren’t fixable because they’re too big, but maybe if you break them down into smaller pieces, maybe you can make some headway that way. But the main problem in the US is the international boundary that crosses the middle of the country and that precludes anything getting done on a national level ie in Washington.

        So forget “national” solutions. Not happening. The hope is in two places, one being in individual states that grab the bull by the horns, “constitution” be damned, the other is in de-facto secession by a group of like-minded states, hopefully territorially contiguous, so as to put into effect solutions within their own boundaries without the obstruction of Washington.

        One of these possible solutions is in tariffs on imported goods. It’s no secret that the big problem is that the objects used in everyday life are made in Mexico or China and the US has not got enough to trade in exchange. Hence gigantic trade deficits, and personal and government debts.

        The other half of the solution is for those objects to be made at home. It may sound trite and I’m repeating myself, but Chinese workers have to be paid to buy the products they make and American workers have to be paid to make the products they buy. That’s the only way around the mess the global economy is in. At least the way I see it.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2019 at 1:01 pm #

          Trump’s program didn’t fail – he never tried to implement it. He betrayed us. Thus we must wait for another Warrior King. And obviously the longer we wait, the harder it’s going to be.

          • hmuller June 15, 2019 at 7:08 pm #

            Trump seems to have gone full Neo-Con retard on us, supporting an unnecessary war with Iran. Does he want to fuel an economy about ready to collapse with war spending? That’s no solution but it could prolong the money-as-drug feeding frenzy a little longer.

        • SoftStarLight June 15, 2019 at 2:35 pm #

          I agree with you V that manufacturing is not coming back the way it was before no matter what we do. Depending on how much further down the road we make it with energy use the way it is now automation will be putting even more people out of work. It would be nice if we did try to make everything that we need at home. It seems like the natural thing to do. It also makes sense to avoid automation so that people can work. But unfortunately it goes back to what we (Western Civ) have put first and that is profit and business.

        • benr June 16, 2019 at 9:52 am #

          I still hold out hope he is after all being attacked from all sides for everything.
          We all know you would not hold up to the strain.
          Are you so sure he does not have a Grima Wormtongue whisper in his ear?

    • JohnAZ June 15, 2019 at 12:51 pm #

      This is not “just happening”.

      • JohnAZ June 15, 2019 at 12:52 pm #

        And “they” are winning!

  47. JohnAZ June 15, 2019 at 12:49 pm #

    All this arguing about the goodness or badness of one party or the other. It is a crock!

    There are two sides in the country today. The Deep State and the Trumpers. The real fight in this country has nothing to do with gun control, Black vs. white, the environment, etc. It is one thing, a fight for power in two dimensions, who has power, the Feds or the states and locals and two, who has power, Liberals or conservatives. The two are tied in as the Liberals want power centralized in DC.

    All the Liberal baloney, and that is what it is, is a power grab. Impeachment, and conviction of this president will be the beginning of the end for the US Constitution. Voters beware, your ability to choose your government is about to be taken away from you. We, your superiors in DC, do not agree with your choice so we will just throw him/her out. The Liberals aim is the elimination of the US Constitution as it is the banner for the Conservative cause.

    I am watching Impeach Trump rallies across the country. I have never seen such a blatant example of the success of the Stupidification campaign by the Deep State. These idiots are demonstrating for the elimination of the rule by law aspects of the Constitution. This is bordering on insanity. If Trump is removed, these idiots are going to get exactly what they deserve, a loss of liberty, and individual power.

    Their attitude is understandable. The kids have been indulged by parents and teachers for two generations. They want someone to take care of them. They have absolutely no concept of individual responsibility. They want their participation trophies, free tuition, free health care, Individual liberty is not even an issue to them. A Stupidification success story.

    The immigrants are the other side. We are starting to see an increase in Chinese, African and Middle Eastern legal and illegal immigrants at the border. They must be running out of Latinos to move. We will discuss “they” in a minute. These folks are from countries that are socialistic and it is all they know. They are not quiet immigrants, they are demanding the US government take care of them when they get here. Demanding!

    The combination of the two demographic changes are going to eliminate the individual aspects of America. 2020; will tell the tale. Will Stupidification and immigration overwhelm the basics of America? We will see.

    Lastly, “they”. Journalists are interviewing the Congolese showing up at the border. They are asking them where they are getting the wherewithal and directions to get to America. No answers! Hostility! They have directions telling them not to talk to anyone here. But they are being directed, just like all the other sources of immigrants..

    By whom? And why isn’t the US government trying to stop this organization that is causing the attack on out national integrity.

    I have a suggestion why. Because the real PTB in the Deep State are part of the organization. Our own government is trying to tear down our country for their power drive.

    And folks, it is too late to stop them. You own vote doesn’t even matter anymore. 2020 may make no difference.

    Like AGW, we may have no choices and adaptation may be the only resource.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

      You forgot the Zionists. That makes three. And since Trump is with the Zionists – as are most “Conservatives”, we are back to two. Nobody at the higher levels of Big City, State, or Federal is on our side. If one or two are, they are keeping it secret.

      MAGA just turned out to be MIGA. And MIGA likes massive immigration for Us but not for Them.

      • FincaInTheMountains June 15, 2019 at 1:28 pm #

        With all due respect Janos, you know less about Zionists than Kosher Jews know about various types of pork chops.

      • SoftStarLight June 15, 2019 at 2:53 pm #

        That’s right. Most standard conservatives are supportive of Israel just like the mainstream establishment in general. Israel gets to have real Nationalism and real Borders. Despite our requirements of service and tribute to them their lobby here prevents us from having the same.

        • Mountain gal June 17, 2019 at 7:00 am #

          Actually, Israel has something like 40,000 illegal African Muslim migrants that snuck in through the Sinai from Egypt. They’ve tried to get rid of them, send them back to Africa with a few thousand bucks each, etc but other countries, the UN, Israeli liberals and even their Supreme Court all fight against this. So they remain, terrorizing the residents of South Tel Aviv where many are now residing. Israel DID build a fence along the Sinai now so they are educable, unlike us. (And 40,000 illegals is a lot in a country the size of New Jersey)

      • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2019 at 6:33 pm #

        Who you backing, Jan?

        Liz Warren?

        Article in the New Yorker states today she has a good chance to take it all.

        After that, nirvana, utopia, heaven on earth, everlasting peace, and free sh#t for everybody!

        Brh

        • hmuller June 15, 2019 at 7:16 pm #

          Joe Biden recently promised to cure cancer if elected.

          Hey Joe, you been holding out on us this whole time? You got the cure locked away somewhere?

          While you’re at it, Joe, promise to cure Ebola and Zika. If I catch Zika will my head shrink?

          • AKlein June 16, 2019 at 6:45 am #

            Tales from the Crypt! Maybe Biden got “the goods” on the cure for cancer in a clandestine meeting with Nixon.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2019 at 7:22 pm #

          Actually the bitch is the only candidate to take on Trump about his blatant false flag warmongering against Iran of the last week or so.

          I know how badly you need this war but I must disagree…..

          Don’t know yet. Andrew Yang until if and when some White Candidate gets enough balls to actually mention us like he has. Trump has yet to do even that. Warren and Biden have actually pledged to come after White Nationalists, so they’re the worst.

          • malthuss June 15, 2019 at 8:18 pm #

            Bitch–you are guilty os speci ism.

      • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2019 at 6:38 pm #

        One thing I can’t figure out about Liz Warren’s plan to forgive all student loans. That’s for loans already made, but what about student loans going forward? Will they be forgiven too, as they are being made, or even before they are made? Somebody help me here.

        Brh

        • hmuller June 15, 2019 at 7:20 pm #

          All loans will be forgiven (in effect) when the dollar becomes worthless. At lest, that was my vision when I was sitting in the sweat lodge with Liz Warren.

  48. FincaInTheMountains June 15, 2019 at 2:19 pm #

    I have never seen such a blatant example of the success of the Stupidification campaign by the Deep State == JohnAZ

    So you know, John, this “Stupidification campaign” has a name – the Dulles Plan.

    The Dulles’ plan or the Dulles Doctrine is the central document of a conspiracy theory, according to which the CIA chief Allen Dulles had developed a plan for the United States to destroy the Soviet Union during the Cold War by secretly corrupting the cultural heritage and moral values of the Soviet nation.

    The “plan”, written in the form of a villain’s exposition, describes how the United States will destroy the Soviet (Russian) people from within by means of a “fifth column” seeking to corrupt basic cultural values of the Soviet society. This is to be accomplished by subverting the carriers of this culture (literature, theaters and cinema) to promote violence, depravity and other vices. In addition, these agents will work to plunge the governmental structure into chaos, bureaucracy and corruption, as well as sow nationalism, ethnic hatred and mistrust among the general populace.

    Apparently, to make things go smoothly, it was first tested on the United States.

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dulles%27_Plan

  49. FincaInTheMountains June 15, 2019 at 2:29 pm #

    Apparently, the Dulles Plan was originally developed deep in the bowels of the Abwehr – the “CIA” of the Third Reich – to be applied to BOTH winners of the Nazi Germany and was imported by the CIA into the United States after they struck a deal with SS in Switzerland in March of 1945.

    We all live in a spy novel, but not the kind of James Bond, but the kind of “Seventeen Moments of Spring”:

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeen_Moments_of_Spring

    • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2019 at 4:42 pm #

      Just reading about Kursk in Niall Ferguson’s ‘The War of the World’.

      Phew! 900,000 German soldiers vs 1.6 million Soviet soldiers.

      The biggest battle in the history of the world, 76 years ago next month.

      Brh

      • malthuss June 15, 2019 at 8:18 pm #

        and ‘we’ lost.

      • elysianfield June 15, 2019 at 9:09 pm #

        BRH,

        And the Allies were reading Germany’s mail, the information relayed to the Soviets a few days in advance made it a one sided event.

        • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2019 at 7:48 am #

          Exactly E

          Ferguson makes that point. Actually it was British intelligence forwarding reports to Zhukov. The Soviets also had tons and tons of US equipment, including several squadrons of Corsair tank busting aircraft the Germans had never seen before.

          Brh

  50. volodya June 15, 2019 at 2:43 pm #

    Yeah, a start. A “good” start? I dunno. The task ahead looks like a Labor of Hercules given the scale of the problem, that is, the mendacity of the Progressive Left, the dishonesty, deception, self-deception, delusion, dishonor and especially the sheer idiocy.

    This isn’t just garden-variety cat-lady squalor, this is Augean in immensity. Even people as merciless and heedless of human life as Mao or Stalin would have their work cut out.

    How do you get your arms around it? A court-case here, a court-case there?

    The intellectual rot on the Right was much easier to deal with because so much of it was encapsulated in a structure we call Neo-Liberalism and as such it was relatively easy for Trump to kick over.

    Such a piecemeal approach as court cases can’t do it as Left-wing Progressivism is so deeply embedded in so many societal crevasses like the civil service bureaucracy, the edu-crat establishment, institutions of higher – cough – learning, the judiciary.

    The problem is that time is against us, or at any rate, is never with us. How long can we afford to have so much of society in a state of unreality? This could be the work of generations as natural selection works its wonders on the unworthy, or the courts as they render judgments. Do we have that kind of time?

    Or maybe what sorts things out will be a giant extinction-scale event of an economic sort. You know, a bunch of big banks, inter-locked in a death embrace with one another’s rotten balance sheets. Or maybe a military crisis ie a confrontation with China. You know, there’s nothing that clears people’s minds of nonsense like a threat to their existence.

    But, in the end, what this is about is money. Progressives, for all their preening, are as devoted as Republicans to the cause of their own self-interest and of enriching the rich, it’s just that Progressives have a wide variety of distractionary issues to distract with, this ludicrous Gibson’s thing being one of them. And so a multi-million dollar judgment is a start, maybe getting the pendulum of events swinging back towards some semblance of sanity.

    • JohnAZ June 15, 2019 at 3:31 pm #

      V

      I love your optimism. I do not share it however.

      Oberlin will be overturned by a liberal court farther up the line. You are right when you say that the liberals are in charge almost everywhere. Two cowardly, dynasty building, RINOs allowed the liberal side to load the government. That is why Dem vs. GOP is no longer the real schism but Deep State vs. Trump conservative is. RINOs and Dems are going to form their own party to try to rewrite the Constitution to favor Federal control. The Trumpers , if they have any staying power will try to offset this effort. If Trump is impeached and convicted, the battle is over. If Trump is taken out in 2020, the battle is over. I agree with his prediction that election of a Deep State Government in 2020 is the end of an era and will make a deep dent in the stock market.

      Bought and paid for by George Soros et al, your friendly international game changer. If the US goes, Georgie Porgie will be the greatest “short” trader in history.

      The Dems have put so much stock on the bad boy Russians messing with our political structure and causing unrest in our country. The real bad boy is Soros, continuously funding dissenters and stirring the pot. How many folks know who paid Kim Foxx to free Smollett in Chicago.

      Guess who?

      • benr June 15, 2019 at 6:36 pm #

        He also has all but given up on senator level stuff and is concentrating on DA elections across the country and his money is bearing fruit.
        I just wonder when someone will finally run this guy out of all towns?
        Who puts up with this evil putz?

  51. FincaInTheMountains June 15, 2019 at 3:19 pm #

    The Dulles Plan and Geopolitical Catastrophe

    How I was right to begin to explore color world projects, because without this methodology it is impossible to understand that the Dulles Plan was formed in the 11th century in the fortress of Alamut, and the Trump revolution is a Red World Project, that is, a revolt of the heirs of the English Yeomen, who first stood under the banner of Robin Hood and Richard The Lionheart against the heirs of Brian de Bois-Guilbert and Hassan ibn Sabbah, and then defeating the creator of the parliamentary system and non-traditional society only to restore them for the marriage of Anne Boleyn.

    The latter, by the will of fate, in turn restored the oldest Church on the planet in England.

    And already from that time in a decisive battles, they somehow turned out to be allies of Byzantium, and then of historical Russia!

    Everything changes, slogans, ideas, geography, but the worldview, or rather, the world projects remains, and even if they became extinct from the classic history of monarchs, classes, social progress and geopolitical catastrophes, but in art it is clearly seen how it goes though dotted, but continuous line from Palestine of 11th century to today’s New York, London and Moscow.

    And nowadays it is best seen in the abyss that separates the historical optimism of such movies as “The Dead Zone” and “Oh Lucky Man!” from the gloomy pessimism of “The Matrix”, which really came to life and to art with the advent of Bastinda-Hillary and all over the world, not only in the United States and in the West.

    • JohnAZ June 15, 2019 at 3:36 pm #

      I read a part of a book on the Dulles boys during WW2. I think you are right labeling them as the creators of the Deep State.

      JFK understood what they were all about and started to try to undo what they were doing.

      Hmmm!

      • malthuss June 15, 2019 at 8:20 pm #

        Deep state has been their since before the Romans.
        Money talks.

  52. BackRowHeckler June 15, 2019 at 4:54 pm #

    Well, Costa Rica was described as the one place North American and Western European palefaces could go in relative safety, and not get chopped up with machetes and fed to gators. But that no longer seems to be the case. Costa Rica is proving deadly too.

    Brh

  53. The category “No borders” is filled with ranks upon ranks of Central and South-American nations.

    If anything I expect the emergence of something like the United States of Central America or something.

    Who will be their Hamilton? Who knows.

    Buy the Carlos Slim approved New York Times today.

  54. Antifragility is having military superiority

    That being said…. the field is expanded to 20 Democratic candidates for a schedule ot 8 debates.

    (8 debates, 4 hours, 20 candidates) = or 1.6 hours per candidate.

    They will probably rotate in the second bench, and a further round of qualifiers will be interviewed.

    This is the “Must-See” Reality TV showcase format which will play to Trump’s strengths.

    I foresee the public hanging on his every utterance as he becomes the ringleader and host.

    Eventually, it will come down to a popular candidate who will win in a landslide.

    Instead of a lynching, an olive wreath will appear

    The government, unified, Trump, released into the world seemingly no worse for wear.

    An era of progressive evolution follows.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2019 at 7:17 pm #

      Anti-Fragility means knowing you have the right to complain when wronged and refusing to feel guilt about it.

  55. Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2019 at 5:50 pm #

    Good on Sarah Sanders for getting out now. Why waste your integrity lying for the Liar and Chief? I mean if it was for a higher cause, that would be one thing. But obviously there’s no higher cause with Trump.

    • FincaInTheMountains June 15, 2019 at 5:56 pm #

      Obviously, Janos has abandoned his plans for Trump to turn the United States of America into the Holy Roman Empire of the White Anglo-Saxon Nation, or another Reich (with eventual similar ending as the other Reichs before that)

      • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2019 at 7:24 pm #

        Yet cuz Anglo-Saxons were Catholic?

      • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 8:33 pm #

        Why do people always say White Anglo-Saxons as if there were green ones, yellow ones and ones with go-faster stripes?

        • FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2019 at 8:06 am #

          Because there are White ones, Red ones and Black ones.

          • GreenAlba June 16, 2019 at 9:34 am #

            I think you should monetise your theory of history, Finca, by making it into a board game for the kind of people who don’t need to put time aside to earn a living 🙂 .

          • Ol' Scratch June 17, 2019 at 5:55 am #

            You’re definitely on to something there, GA. I’ve already got his book title worked up:

            “The Everclear Diaries; A Mad Russian’s Ruminations on World Colored Projects from Deep Inside His Caribbean Heart of Darkness.”

            Yes, somewhat derivative, I know, but all of pop culture these days is just recycled crap that’s been done already, so it should fit right in.

            I think the project’s got legs. We might have to ask Jim to shop it around a bit.

    • James Hansen June 15, 2019 at 7:43 pm #

      You are right, there are too many duel citizens and Israeli Firsters in the highest reaches of our government.

      What is good for Israel is not good for the U.S.

      informationclearinghouse.info/51766.htm

      • malthuss June 15, 2019 at 8:21 pm #

        fuck Israel.

        hell with Rahm and his terrorist daddy.

        • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2019 at 8:45 pm #

          Why do you say that, Malthus?

          Ok so you don’t like the state of Israel for whatever reason. Why not just be nuetral then? Israel is a US ally, and no threat to you or any of us. There’s alot worse countries in the world than Israel believe you me. Why the hostility?

          Brh

          • beantownbill. June 15, 2019 at 9:34 pm #

            Because, Marlin, he’s an anti-Semitic asshole. Very simple to figure out why.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2019 at 1:28 am #

            The attack on the Liberty was an act of War. But a small affair compared to lying us into two World Wars. There was huge peace movements before both of them, but since that doesn’t fit the narrative, they have been thrown down the memory hole. We were “isolationists” for not wanting to go into WW1 and “Anti-Semites for not wanting to go into WW2. What will they call us for not wanting to fight Iran on their behalf?

          • Ol' Scratch June 16, 2019 at 5:49 am #

            LOL! Cue the cries of anti-semitism. Always with the hysterics and conversation stoppers. Polly want a cracker? Look over there under the bed! It’s an anti-semite!

          • elysianfield June 16, 2019 at 11:48 am #

            “What will they call us for not wanting to fight Iran on their behalf?”

            Janos,
            I expect that they will call us “long distance”…in a timely fashion, and reverse the charges….

          • malthuss June 16, 2019 at 12:08 pm #

            This is for you and BTB–

            Israel gets to have real Nationalism and real Borders. [SSL]

            Is James Hansen anti Semitic?

            USA is a satrap of Israel. How many billions of dollars have we given it?

        • Mountain gal June 17, 2019 at 7:05 am #

          Why? Israel is a better friend to the US than pretty much any other country. They do have our backs. I suspect you read too many conspiracy websites run by anti-Semites.

      • GreenAlba June 15, 2019 at 8:36 pm #

        “You are right, there are too many duel citizens…”

        I know, pistols at dawn can be annoying.

        • hmuller June 16, 2019 at 7:51 am #

          Green Alba, how can you be so persnickety when you and your whole nation are constantly misspelling words.

          For example, your car has “tyres” instead of tires. (Are they made by Phoenicians in Sidon and Tyre?) I see humor (not humour) in that. I swear, sometimes your writing looks like the Canterbury Tales – itself a veritable crime scene of misspelling.

          • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2019 at 8:09 am #

            HM

            Check out the back and forth upstream between Slugoon and GA, both in the UK. Its hilarious. Its almost like a different language.

            Brh

          • hmuller June 16, 2019 at 8:42 am #

            Yes indeed. I’m still trying to figure what it means that the TV show “The Virginian” was “dishy”.

          • GreenAlba June 16, 2019 at 9:53 am #

            hmuller

            I wasn’t being pernickety – I just enjoy misspellings that involve puns or even the slightest vein of humour. Mea culpa.

            And to be honest I misread it as a Janos comment and hence fair game, given his constant slandering – I wouldn’t have knowledgeably had a go at JamesH!

            It was the eponymous Virginian fella on the horse I thought was dishy (back then, I hasten to add).

            merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dishy

            I see it has a different meaning stateside.

            We are not responsible for what you have done to the English language, hm. And I will ignore your obviously tongue-in-cheek reference to the Middle English of old Geoff.

            Nite! Lite! Thru! Aaarrrgghhhhhh…

          • GreenAlba June 16, 2019 at 9:57 am #

            And they also have tyres on their wheels in Ireland, Australia, and New Zealand.

    • Exscotticus June 15, 2019 at 9:58 pm #

      You are seriously deluded if you think she’s leaving due to Trump. There’s only so much liberal press pool arrogance and hypocrisy that you can take before it’s fatal. Clearly her dosimeter was chirping and flashing red. She may already be sterile from her lengthy exposure to Jim Acosta.

      Liar and Chief? “If you like your plan, you can keep your plan,” said Obama. Did his press secretary admit, “Yep! My boss lied to you, to me, to everyone.” Of course not. What incredibly high standards you have for Sanders that apparently don’t apply to Carney or any other press secretary.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2019 at 12:19 pm #

        No, I know the job involves lying. That’s why I said there has to be a higher purpose. Obviously Trump is not what he posed as, namely a champion of White America, rather he’s just another Neo-Con. So any and all lies on his behalf simply serve our Enemies.

        Nothing in that says that I prefer Obama, etc. They are the other faction of Elite who desire our destruction.

  56. Pucker June 15, 2019 at 7:01 pm #

    In the future dystopia, Modern Liberalism (“Progressivism”, “Diversity”, Globalism”) will have hollowed out the traditional culture and exported all of the jobs or replaced them with robots. Social Shaming will have left the culture bereft of the church. Education Institutions will be engines of Anticulture for attacking History and traditional norms. People will find Pride and Community in drug use in a society lacking community infrastructure. People will congregate in bars, crack houses, heroin dens, evangelical churches occupying decaying strip malls, abandoned buildings, and, as always, the ubiquitous WalMart and McDonalds. In the hollowed out culture, people will find Pride and Community in drug use, racial identity, evangelical religion, and becoming Queer. There will be a Queer in the White House pushing for a strong authoritarian state to protect the individual’s right to be a pedophile and to recruit kids as future queers. Anyone who questions the dystopia will be accused of “Hate Speech” and thrown in jail by algorithms constantly monitoring the Internet and ubiquitous surveillance cameras and listening devices.

    South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg paid tribute to the victims of the Pulse nightclub shooting on the third anniversary of the Orlando attack on Wednesday.
    “Pulse wasn’t an attack on just one community — it was an attack on LGBTQ Americans, Latinx Americans, and Black Americans,” Buttigieg, who is openly gay, said in an email to supporters.

    “It was an attack on people who look like me, and an attack on people who look nothing like me,” he continued. “It was an attack on all of us. It was an attack on individuals expressing their sexuality, their heritage, their gender, and their freedom.”

    Buttigieg called on Congress to pass gun control legislation and urged states to pass hate crime laws.

    “Change will not just happen,” he said. “It will only come as the result of struggle — political struggle, moral struggle. We need Congress to deliver on common-sense gun safety laws supported by an American majority, like universal background checks and a ban on military-style assault weapons. And we need to incentivize every state to pass a hate crimes law.”

  57. auburn June 15, 2019 at 9:25 pm #

    A good start! The new Democratic House just passed major health care legislation to protect Americans with pre-existing conditions and lower the costs of prescription drugs. Like the 200+ other pieces of legislation the House has passed this year, the Strengthening Health Care and Lowering Prescription Drug Costs Act will probably be blocked by McConnell, who will not even allow it to be voted on. It is still a good start. Next year the logjam will be broken at the ballot box when Democrats win both the House and the Senate.

    • JohnAZ June 15, 2019 at 10:20 pm #

      When the Democrats win all the parts of the government, America is finished.

      JHK has been conjecturing what will start the final descent into the Long Emergency. I would say that a totally Liberal Government is a good start.

  58. Pucker June 15, 2019 at 10:10 pm #

    Dystopia….

    They’ll drop some kiddy porn on your laptop or iPhone, or accuse you of being a rapist, or being a Russ…ian agent….

    “The FBI has informed Alex Jones someone planted child pornography on the servers for his Infowars website and on Friday the controversial radio host offered a $1 million reward for any information leading to an arrest.
    Federal authorities have been conducting a child pornography investigation for several weeks after they reviewed emailed threats made against Jones that contained links to child pornography websites, according to his attorney Norm Pattis.”

    • K-Dog June 16, 2019 at 2:16 am #

      If they want to get you they will. Even though you know this is possible. You will fall for it anyway. You will accept it as the truth and those kicked to the curb will be shunned.

      The saving grace is that this shit will have to carry some heavy bureaucratic weight. It has to cost money to whip one of these things up. Just the paperwork alone. Even planting porn links on somebodies server has to cost a few bones. There are ongoing commitments involved. So I’ll continue to believe that I’m not worth the trouble of a deep state fake. Not this year. It feels a lot better that way.

      A Department of Homeland Security/FBI list here and there I understand. That’s busywork, people do have to work to get paid. I’m even a believer in that myself! The working to get paid part that is. But when robots start making robots on their own our shit will be in serious trouble.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2019 at 6:28 pm #

        Let not your heart be troubled. Watch Robocop. The police of the future will be androids, sensitive to both the human and the machine communities. They will be Gay since both humans and robot/computers will be programmed to be Gay. You will be absorbed, Dog. The Gay are the Borg. In other words, you’re worrying about the wrong thing….

  59. Pucker June 15, 2019 at 10:36 pm #

    Chris Arnade was cynical in his dealings with the white and black American underclass, but his empathy occasionally caused him to expose himself to risk unnecessarily. At the end of his book, Arnade recounts an anecdote in which he befriends a white woman. Arnade gives her $20 bucks and lets her use his phone to call someone to pick her up from the McDonalds. The next morning he gets an SMS message on his phone asking how many hits he wants to buy. Now Arnade’s iPhone links to drug dealers. “You gotta be very cynical.” You gotta be very cynical in the Dystopia….

    Chris Arnade
    Dignity: Seeking Respect in Back Row America

    • K-Dog June 15, 2019 at 11:10 pm #

      This week the world steps a step closer to a collapse that will make the dark ages look like a trip to a country fair and this blog is concerned with bagels and wine theft.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2019 at 1:39 am #

        We shall not fall into the Abyss – it will be dropped on us from above. We’ll suddenly find ourselves at the bottom. Those who are higher but not high enough will be flushed.

        • Ol' Scratch June 16, 2019 at 5:41 am #

          The internet is replete these days with supersized, comical white Americans waddling around their local Walmart in ridiculous looking apparel. We’re even getting them up here in our little bastion of upper middle class utopia now. I always regard them with morbid fascination, even allowing for the fact that I myself only recently stepped back from that same abyss. But then again, there’s overweight and there’s FUCKING FAT!!!, and more and more people have simply given up and taken the fatal plunge. I seriously doubt that there’s any good outcomes possible for such people at that point. In addition to rampant substance abuse issues, the toxic processed food diets they’ve come to rely on for economic, cultural, taste, and convenience reasons are a guaranteed death sentence, albeit an exceedingly slow and painful one at that.

          • Walter B June 16, 2019 at 6:35 am #

            Yes Ol’ Scratch, it would appear to be a trend that is not our friend, but it is a great weapon for those who rule to utilize to keep the masses both massive and passive at the same time. The is no recorded case of any society of obese people ever revolting against those who rule them. In fact it is almost always hungry people that are the dangerous ones.

            ” Let me have men about me that are fat,sleek-headed men and such as sleep a-nights. Yond Cassius has a lean and hungry look, He thinks too much; such men are dangerous.”.

            I am seeing more and more of them every day. Yesterday I was in an auditorium where what looked like about half of those in attendance were super-sized, and the poor woman in front of me had to weight 500 pounds! As she forced herself into the seat, what did not fit in spilled over to take up half of each of the seats next to her.

            Affluence breeds excess and diabetes is a useful and a profitable tool to control the masses. It debilitates those that succumb to it, and it decimates those that pay for it through their insurance premiums Winner, winner chicken dinner!

          • Ol' Scratch June 16, 2019 at 7:19 am #

            It’s amazing, isn’t it. Even though I realize the slow motion effect of gaining weight over time combined with our well known propensity for rationalization can lull us to sleep, it’s hard to imagine how the internal alarm bells don’t go off at some point in time. For me it was 40″ waist pants. After that there was no looking back, it was transition time to big and tall sizes. Quite a humiliating prospect for someone who always worked out and still considered myself otherwise “physically fit.” I look at my old driver’s license photo now and am completely mortified at the face looking back at me.

          • malthuss June 16, 2019 at 12:02 pm #

            Was Rahms dad a terrorist?
            Does USA do Israels bidding? Trillions of dollars in ‘aid.’

            Am I delusional?

          • K-Dog June 16, 2019 at 12:26 pm #

            So high fructose corn syrup was a conspiracy after all! I knew it. But how did they think they were going to keep their own kids from the stuff?

            I know rich people’s food is different but there was no way they were going to keep it pure. Too many cooks. What were they thinking?

          • Mountain gal June 17, 2019 at 7:12 am #

            In the event of a collapse, most of those supersized folks who rely on insulin and other meds will succumb fast. They won’t be able to engage in physical work. I suppose some might be armed and evil and they will try to steal from or enslave us fit slim types in order to ensure their daily calorie intake. One never knows. I can definitely outrun them at least! 😉

    • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2019 at 8:13 pm #

      Yes, White Women are always putting Black Men in danger like this.

  60. restless94110 June 16, 2019 at 2:46 am #

    Like a missle headed for a Japanese tanker, you hit the Bull’s Eye with this column! Fantasitc read.

    You can add to the Wokesterism of this case one Donica the black lady attorney/adviser who just helped to triple the money the college she represents has to pay.

    With advice like hers, who needs enemies?

  61. Pucker June 16, 2019 at 3:19 am #

    “We should give the Totonacs the dignity and respect that they deserve.”

    – Beto

    “Cortés mounted up and led his small party inland and toward the north. Almost immediately he spotted a group of Indians regarding them from a safe distance on a hillside. They appeared different from Tendile and the interior Mexican highlanders and from any coastal Indians the Spaniards had yet encountered. He sent a few cavalry to bring them to him—and was both riveted and revolted when they came forward: they had pierced ears and noses, with holes large enough to run their fingers through; their lower lips were intentionally severed through ritual self-mutilation, revealing blackened teeth and gums; they wore in these grotesque stretched piercings great hunks of colored stone. They spoke a language that even Malinche did not understand, but some of them could manage a little Nahuatl. Malinche relayed a message from them to Cortés. They were called Totonacs, and they had been watching the Spaniards along the coast for some time now.”

  62. Ol' Scratch June 16, 2019 at 6:59 am #

    Evidently, human crap transplants are now a thing, and potentially lethal, at that. What will they come up with next?

    arstechnica.com/science/2019/06/killer-poop-fecal-transplant-patients-death-prompts-fda-to-push-out-…

  63. Ol' Scratch June 16, 2019 at 7:09 am #

    Ham-handed US false flag events are being exposed faster and faster everyday now. Don’t know if that means the alternative press is getting more diligent or if the utter incompetence of the three stooges Trump, Bolton, and Pompeo just makes them impossible to miss. Either way, it’s a positive sign.

    ************

    The Gulf of Credibility
    14 Jun, 2019
    By Craig Murray

    I really cannot begin to fathom how stupid you would have to be to believe that Iran would attack a Japanese oil tanker at the very moment that the Japanese Prime Minister was sitting down to friendly, US-disapproved talks in Tehran on economic cooperation that can help Iran survive the effects of US economic sanctions.

    The Japanese-owned Kokuka Courageous was holed above the water line. That rules out a torpedo attack, which is the explanation being touted by the neo-cons.

    The second vessel, the Front Altair, is Norwegian owned and 50% Russian crewed (the others being Filipinos). It is owned by Frontline, a massive tanker leasing company that also has a specific record of being helpful to Iran in continuing to ship oil despite sanctions.

    It was Iran that rescued the crews and helped bring the damaged vessels under control.

    That Iran would target a Japanese ship and a friendly Russian crewed ship is a ludicrous allegation. They are however very much the targets that the USA allies in the region – the Saudis, their Gulf Cooperation Council colleagues, and Israel – would target for a false flag. It is worth noting that John Bolton was meeting with United Arab Emirates ministers two weeks ago – both ships had just left the UAE.

    The USA and their UK stooges have both immediately leapt in to blame Iran. The media is amplifying this with almost none of the scepticism which is required. I cannot think of a single reason why anybody would believe this particular false flag. It is notable that neither Norway nor Japan has joined in with this ridiculous assertion.

    *******************

    craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2019/06/the-gulf-of-credibility/

    • FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2019 at 7:25 am #

      That was an apparent act by the Deep State to disrupt the negotiations between Trump and Iran, for which Trump had commissioned Japanese PM Shinzo Abe.

      You have to realize that a lot of money flows into the pockets of Deep State from Iranian oil trade, Trump has no choice but to cut off that flow.

    • FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2019 at 7:34 am #

      This Craig Murray fellow is an appernet stooge of the Deep State.

      • Ol' Scratch June 16, 2019 at 1:34 pm #

        What’s an appernet? Is that some kind of new-fangled tech thingy?

        • CancelMyCard June 16, 2019 at 4:05 pm #

          Didn’t you know . . . ?

          There was Larry, Moe, Curly,

          and Appernet.

          • Ol' Scratch June 17, 2019 at 5:48 am #

            I tried to log on to the appernet yesterday but got a message saying “Stop listening to FincaInTheMountains, you fucking asshole!” instead. Who’d a thunk?

    • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2019 at 7:36 am #

      OS

      Maybe there is no central control in Iran. When Murray questions why Iran would mine an oil tanker in the Gulf, well, Iran probably wouldn’t. But a Lt Commander in the Revolutionary Guard Navy might, or a Colonel in the Kuds Force might.

      Brh

      • FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2019 at 7:40 am #

        I think Iranians have better control of ALL of their armed forces than Americans do – just recall the unauthorised by US President ambush of 300 killed Russian mercenaries in Syria, for which a lot of American mercenaries later died in Eastern Ghouta.

      • Ol' Scratch June 16, 2019 at 1:33 pm #

        But a Lt Commander in the Revolutionary Guard Navy might, or a Colonel in the Kuds Force might.

        Well, that’s certainly putting a positive US spin on things! The Deep State is grateful for your allegiance, although you can expect no benefits for it whatsoever.

        • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2019 at 3:51 pm #

          OS

          Regarding the mining of the 2 oil tankers in the gulf

          Calling it an American neo con deep state provocation, that can’t be the only explanation for what happened.

          There are many other possibilities, you have to admit.

          Brh

          • Ol' Scratch June 17, 2019 at 5:45 am #

            Possibilities, yes. The world’s full of them. Realities, on the other hand, are in much shorter supply. The neocons in the US have been itching for a fight forever. They want one so bad they can taste it. Too bad what they’ll be tasting is their own blood after they get smacked in the mouth, their precious military is found to be wanting, and their lifeblood oil supply gets shut off.

    • GreenAlba June 16, 2019 at 8:49 am #

      Scratch

      “The USA and their UK stooges have both immediately leapt in to blame Iran. ”

      Exactly what I said earlier about Jeremy Hunt, who’s runner up (albeit impossibly far behind) in the Tory leadership campaign. He knows Trump loves Boris (because it’s like looking in a mirror and getting a more erudite version of himself looking back) and that he needs to out-Boris Boris to get Trump’s favour.

      He was tripping over himself even before this to curry favour with the US. ‘We stand firmly beside the US’ etc. etc. – and rapping Iran’s knuckles with thinly veiled warnings of the consequences of supposedly justified American wrath.

      I still think the Brexit voters, whatever their own legitimate grievances, have been played by the Atlanticists in the Tory party.

      There’s been a fight for 40 years between the ‘European’ wing of the Tory party and those who wish to be more closely aligned with the US, including fighting their wars when necessary to maintain the ‘special relationship’. And for the latter, this is their time.

      I wonder if Julian Assange is paying attention. It may affect his prospects too.

      • FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2019 at 9:35 am #

        There’s been a fight for 40 years between the ‘European’ wing of the Tory party and those who wish to be more closely aligned with the US

        What can you do, no matter what they just love the Reich so much, you could sharpen an ax on top of their heads!

  64. FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2019 at 7:19 am #

    So you know, John, this “Stupidification campaign” has a name – the Dulles Plan

    In my head the quantum leap occurred when I was watching the opening of Hillary Clinton’s election campaign in Roosevelt Park in 2015.

    The American propaganda during the years of the Cold War worked so well that most Americans are convinced that the Yalta Accords and Yalta Peace is Stalin’s diabolical idea, since these agreements guaranteed the Soviet Union a certain sphere of influence in which the US pledged not to interfere. And as we now see clearly, such a sphere of influence is necessary for historical Russia, one of the forms of existence of which was the Soviet Union.

    But in reality, the Yalta Peace was conceived and proposed by the great US President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who understood that such agreements and such a sphere of influence are necessary to prevent a new war.

    And Stalin, who knew about the successful development of the atomic bomb in the US, agreed with this proposal, but after Roosevelt was apparently killed just a few hours after receiving a letter from Joseph Stalin with evidence of a separate peace concluded in Bern by Allen Dulles and General SD Wolf, which actually concludes the movie “Seventeen Moments of Spring”, Truman, intoxicated by the successes of initiated by Roosevelt and Einstein “Manhattan Project”, buried these agreements in Potsdam.

    And the Cold War began, which was a war, specifically the Third World War, and not a peace interrupted by local wars. But the Soviet people understood this only when they had to pay for losing this war, and this price turned out to be exorbitant even in comparison with the Second World War, or rather, compared with the Great Patriotic War.

    All this flashed through my head when I heard Hillary, standing on the pedestal of the monument to Roosevelt, began her election campaign with a statement that she would not allow the second Yalta, and this, by virtue of the above considerations, means promising to start the Fourth World War.

    And thousands of Clinton-zombies, sentenced to agonizing death by this statement, having heard this promise, just went over in delight just like the Germans went over with delight at the speeches of Hitler in 1938.

    And I suddenly realized that she was mentally dancing on the grave of her enemy, with whose shadow she had fought all her life.

    And probably thanks to them over the park, where the memorial is located and where Hillary made her own Shabbat, the spirit of Roosevelt and, presumably, Nixon hovered about.

    And I wondered what would happen when she arrives at the Ground Zero? And she will definitely come when she thinks that the American motorcyclists who stopped the war in Syria were defeated.

    And there she would finally learn what the Yalta Peace is and what the souls of those killed at this place are.

    Hillary’s Official Campaign Launch:
    youtube.com/watch?v=DZuVquSU_Uw

    Hillary collapses on September 11th, 2016, at the 911 Memorial:
    youtube.com/watch?v=F6grYYWy2q4

    • FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2019 at 7:57 am #

      Operation Sunrise, or the Bern incident

      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sunrise_(World_War_II)

      • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2019 at 9:37 am #

        Really Finca.

        Now lets have a roundtable book discussion of Roger Moorhouse’s ‘The Devil’s Alliance, Hitler’s Pact with Stalin, 1939-1941.

        Then we can talk about the Winter War, the Soviet assault on Finland 1939, where you got your ass kicked.

        Brh

        • FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2019 at 9:56 am #

          The Winter War was caused by the desire of the Soviet leadership to push the Finnish border away from Leningrad (now St. Petersburg) in order to strengthen the security of the north-western borders of the USSR, and the refusal of the Finnish side to do so.

          The Soviet government asked to lease parts of the peninsula of Hanko and some islands in the Gulf of Finland in exchange for a larger area of Soviet territory in Karelia with the subsequent conclusion of a mutual assistance agreement.

        • malthuss June 16, 2019 at 12:13 pm #

          what is in the book?

          • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2019 at 2:41 pm #

            Soviet and Nazi agreement to divide up Europe, which is what happened.

  65. 450.org June 16, 2019 at 9:20 am #

    Obviously, Janos has abandoned his plans for Trump to turn the United States of America into the Holy Roman Empire of the White Anglo-Saxon Nation, or another Reich (with eventual similar ending as the other Reichs before that)

    Obviously you have not given up on turning America into a Russian satellite state.

  66. 450.org June 16, 2019 at 9:27 am