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#377 — John Michael Greer blogs at Ecosophia, subtitle, Toward an Ecological Spirituality. JMG has been an astute observer of Western Civ’s arduous economic and cultural descent, and is the author of many books, both novels and non-fiction, including Green Wizardry, After Oil, The Wealth of Nature, and Not the Future We Ordered. Star’s Reach, is a novel set 400 years ahead in America’s neo-medieval future, The King in Orange, a meditation on the relationship between archetype psychology and the occult as acted out in politics and culture. Things are getting weird in America, wouldn’t you agree? Even a bit supernatural. To help us navigate through this wilderness of the weird, JMG and I talk about magic and the re-enchantment of daily life.

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17 Responses to “KunstlerCast 377 — John Michael Greer on Magic and the Reenchantment of Daily Life”

  1. InnerCynic May 14, 2023 at 12:21 pm #

    Magic or is it more accurate in calling it Necromancy.

  2. tom clark May 14, 2023 at 10:34 pm #

    JMG is an interesting dude w/ a very annoying voice. If you’ve followed him over the years, you’ll quickly see that there’s not much new here worth listening to. A few interesting remarks near the end about RFK Jr’s 2024 run, but other than that, it’s pretty much the same old same old.

    • Woodchuck May 15, 2023 at 8:52 am #

      @ tom clark – same old same old – same as you?

      • TravisB May 15, 2023 at 10:57 pm #

        Maybe JMG could spice up all the wisdom he shares freely? Ya know, for people like Tommy with short attention spans?

        • TravisB May 16, 2023 at 4:36 pm #

          Sorry. That was a little spicy.
          I think this stuff can’t be repeated enough.

  3. oojai May 15, 2023 at 2:56 pm #

    That was great. Wish we heard more often from Michael.

    • HabeamVinum May 15, 2023 at 4:44 pm #

      Hey oojai, join him on his blog/sites where he see what he truly is.
      Just try to post a comment outside of the govt propaganda and see how fast he will cancel you.

  4. HabeamVinum May 15, 2023 at 4:42 pm #

    HI JHK, you have known JMG for a long time and respect each other.
    Don’t you think you should ask real questions, instead of letting him repeat the same shallow crap?

    In the last 3 years, JMG has turned into a “leader” of censorship and whitewashing lies.
    Starting with his blog that still uses “conspiracy theory” unironically, he removes any comment that dares to ask questions of the mainstream narrative, with the exception of vax injuries. He removed one of my comments for saying “humans are omnivorous” – obviously his readership is aging hippies so he would like to keep them paying for his subpar books.

    Why didn’t you ask him what he thinks about all the truth coming forth recently? Like the fact that Covid was created in a lab (he wouldn’t allow comments about this for 2 years), or the fact that 2 (or 5) of the so-called 9-11 terrorists were trained by CIA.

    I could go on, but you get my point. I asked JMG once if he could name ANY conspiracy theory that he thinks it’s true – and he refused to answer.
    These are the questions someone should ask him and I am sorry no one has the courage.

    I kind of hope he is paid for being this stupid and evil but I think he is just another fake liberal that gets his jollies abusing the little power he has. Like many other people I respected (see Nassim Taleb or Noam Chomsky), he became what he pretended to hate – an authoritarian ahole.

    • Riothamus May 17, 2023 at 12:12 pm #

      Umm.. pretty sure JMG agrees that humans are omnivorous. In fact, I know for a fact that he likes to bacon cheeseburgers and rice and beans, which would make him technically an omnivore.

      • HabeamVinum May 19, 2023 at 1:26 am #

        Of course he agrees, but he won’t let comments through that say that – not below a comment from a vegan.

        You seem to have missed my larger point though – do you think it’s fine to ignore in an interview JMG’s love of censorship and his inability to stray outside of mainstream propaganda?

        I mean come on – not one conspiracy that might be true? Not one?

        • Riothamus May 20, 2023 at 3:07 am #

          Sure, I don’t necessarily agree with JMG on everything (manmade climate-change being one thing), but as a regular commenter I have not experienced the kind of censorship you mention.

  5. Patient45 May 15, 2023 at 5:34 pm #

    Oh god, Jim. For a change, it would be nice if you interviewed someone with whom you disagreed instead of what has become this dreary, predictable echo chamber. For the love of debate, engage some of your opponents, ffs.

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  6. Dr. Coyote May 15, 2023 at 6:16 pm #

    Good interview, and a welcome update on how the ideas put forth in The King in Orange two years ago are playing out in today’s events. Thanks!

  7. TravisB May 16, 2023 at 5:10 pm #

    “Reason has hard limits and most the world slips right through its grip” JG

    Peak reason

    Very interesting

  8. Bilejones May 17, 2023 at 3:13 pm #

    The Ur source on this topic is Keith Thomas’ 1971 “Religion and the decline of Magic”.


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