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Art Berman is an independent oil geologist and industry analyst. We go deep on the recent extreme price crash in the oil markets, the current situation and destiny of shale oil, and the implications of all this for the economy in general. Art lives in Houston. He blogs at

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James Howard Kunstler is the author of many books including (non-fiction) The Geography of Nowhere, The City in Mind: Notes on the Urban Condition, Home from Nowhere, The Long Emergency and the four-book series of World Made By Hand novels, set in a post economic crash American future. His most recent book is Living in the Long Emergency; Global Crisis, the Failure of the Futurists, and the Early Adapters Who Are Showing Us the Way Forward. Jim lives on a homestead in Washington County, New. York, where he tends his garden and communes with his chickens.

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  1. snagglepuss May 14, 2020 at 8:58 pm #

    So excited to listen to this podcast. I have a crush on Art Berman.

  2. snagglepuss May 14, 2020 at 10:26 pm #

    Thank you Jim & Art for this wonderful interview. The information about what is required to shut in a well was an eye opener, as was the relationship between oil price and GDP. Also, it seems that society often forgets bi-products such as diesel fuel which is so fundamentally important to everything. Such as the level of industrial farming that takes place, its importance in trade, and the food it puts on our tables.

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  4. theConstitutionalist May 15, 2020 at 12:05 pm #

    Another great podcast Jim! So glad you were able to arrange the interview with Art.

    You’re both good people and right now good people are getting as scarce as hen’s teeth.

    Have a great weekend, and enjoy those plum blossoms.

  5. Paddy Padmore May 16, 2020 at 9:02 am #

    Art Berman at 9:53 re. shale oil: “If you think this is going away then the United Sates is in big trouble.”

    The whole world could in a few months be in way bigger trouble than Art Berman or even Kunstler realizes;

    In a recent interview author Daniel Estulin alleges a fabricated coronavirus crisis is a scam by the banksters to write off debt and avoid blame for the coming global economic collapse:

    Journalist and author Daniel Estulin:
    “We’ve reached the limits to growth. And this is systemic for the entire planet. The entire system is in a state of collapse. So they realized they needed to do something to write off all these debts…When the system collapses and you have 90% of the planet’s population unemployed, somebody’s going to have to pay the piper. And the elite don’t want it to be them. So they devised a virus…”

    Just do a search on the paragraph above in quotes to find more details. And I AM a conspiracy theorist and feel no need to make apologies for it either. If the people who follow Kunstler can’t see the writing on the wall, the matrix has the planet well and truly in lockdown and not a red pill sight.

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    ‘Analysts say an Enbridge Inc. plan to use an idled leg of its Mainline pipeline system to store surplus Western Canadian oil will help offset lower volumes on the system as U.S. refineries buy less oil to match lower demand.
    The pipeline is scheduled to be decommissioned next year after it was replaced by a new segment that came into service late last year.

    Enbridge says it could increase its storage capacity to about two million barrels this year on the Mainline system with further optimizations in its storage tank program.”

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    great cast.

    i’m suspicious that all actual EROEI calculations are seriously low, because a true calculation would have to incorporate every tiny advantage oil itself gives to any economic enterprise…the convenient packaging and shipping of the food every employee eats, etc. etc., etc…

    • gustafson.robert.22 May 25, 2020 at 12:50 pm #

      meant EROEI calculations are too HIGH (assume greater return than actual) , not low

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    Great Pod. Art is such a resource!
    So his best is the 70% reduction of GDP? That is about 3x worse then the great depression. I don’t see how we ever climb out of that hole.
    I wonder what his worst case is? Back to the dark ages?

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