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Spring is popping now with a ferocious energy that can only remind the sullenly sequestered masses that life is going on without them. Every living thing is busy making-and-doing out there, except the poor humans, idled without work or purpose. That won’t last long. People don’t submit automatically to zombification when some pissant bureaucrats issue them $1200 checks. They yearn to bust out like everything else on this living planet. And if they can’t do it in a good way, well….

The mega-machine we constructed to drive this society has sucked a valve and thrown a rod. The machine is broken, no matter how much more fuel the mechanics pump in. (One suspects somebody may have topped it off with Karo syrup.) Anyway, the machine got too big and too complex, with too many extraneous bells and whistles, and with way too much computerized cybernetic control built-in, so the mechanics barely noticed it was coming apart (they were too busy partying). That big machine is smoldering in a ditch for the moment. The dazed and bloodied passengers realize that the ride is over, and now they must march on to get somewhere, anywhere, away from this miserable ditch and the wreckage in it. The fine spring weather is their only consolation.

And so here we are at a fraught moment in the convergent crises of corona virus and the foundering economic system that it infected, with all its frightful pre-existing conditions. Of course, it isn’t capitalism, so-called, that is failing, but the perversions of capitalism, starting with the appendage of the troublesome term: ism. It isn’t a religion, or even a pseudo-religion like Zoroastrianism or communism. It’s simply the management system for surplus wealth. In a hyper-complex society, the management of wealth naturally grows hyper-complex, too, with lavish opportunities and temptations for chicanery, cheating, fraud, and swindling (the perversions of capital). It’s in the interest of the managers to cloak all that hyper-complex perversity in opaque language, to make it seem okay.

How many ordinary Americans have a clue what all the Municipal Liquidity Facilities, Primary Dealer Credit Facilities, Primary and Secondary Market Corporate Credit Facilities, Money Market Mutual Fund Liquidity Facilities, Main Street New Loan Facilities and Expanded Loan Facilities, Commercial Paper Funding Facilities, currency swap lines, the TALFs  TARPs, PPPs, SPVs represent ­— besides the movement, by keystrokes, of “money” from one netherworld to another (both conveniently located on Wall Street), usually to the loss of non-elite citizens generally and to their offspring’s offspring’s offspring?

Real capital is grounded in the production of real things of real value, of course, and when it’s detached from all that, it’s no longer real capital. Money represents capital, and when the capital isn’t real, the money represents…nothing! And ceases to be real money. Just now, America is producing almost nothing except money, money in quantities that stupefy the imagination — trillions here, there, and everywhere. The trouble is that money is vanishing as fast as it’s being created. That’s because it’s based on promises to be paid back into existence that will never be kept, on top of prior promises to pay back money that were broken or are in the process of breaking. The net result is that money is actually disappearing faster than it can be created, even in vast quantities.

All this sounds like metaphysical bullshit, I suppose, but we are obviously watching money disappear. Your paycheck is gone. That activity you started — a brew-pub, a gym, an ad agency — no longer produces revenue. The HR department at the giant company you work for told you: don’t bother coming into the office tomorrow, or possibly ever again. Your bills are piling up. The numbers in your bank account run to zero. That sure smells like money disappearing. Wait until the pension checks and the SNAP cards mysteriously stop landing in the mailbox.

There’s going to be a lot of trouble. Ordinary Americans are going to get super-pissed if money doesn’t disappear from the stock markets, too. They’ve seen this movie before. They will know for sure that they were played, that the class of people who hold most of the stocks are doing just fine while everybody else stares into that old abyss staring back at them. I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near the Hamptons on that fateful day.

All this because we just can’t face the task of reorganizing our national home economics to suit new circumstances. So, nature will do it for us. Nature will furnish us with a marvelously efficient black hole where we can conveniently stash our fake money so that we’ll never have to see it again. Nature will bust up our giant institutions, our giant corporations, our giant networks of financial obligations. And after a period of confusion and social disorder, some clever humans will aggregate into smaller networks and re-organize their activities on a smaller scale that actually supports truthful relationships between the production of things deemed to hold value and money that represents those things.

The beauty of springtime is sublime and, as Edmund Burke noted, that very beauty provokes our thoughts of pain and terror.

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1,025 Responses to “When the Birdies Sing Like the Fat Lady”

  1. Beryl of Oyl May 4, 2020 at 9:54 am #

    That “karo syrup” was a nice touch.

  2. Beryl of Oyl May 4, 2020 at 9:55 am #

    The non-elite are walking around with diapers on their faces.
    Even the “conservatives” are arguing in favor of “phasing in” restoring freedom because the people won’t be able to handle it, or something.
    We are sunk.

  3. Beryl of Oyl May 4, 2020 at 9:59 am #

    I thought personal freedom was important once. Now I realize, as a senior citizen, I am entitled to have working America ruined financially and placed under house arrest, to keep me safe.
    Here I’ve been keeping myself safe all this time, doing old-fashioned things like washing my hands.
    I should have been listening to the CDC, and their updates on whether wearing a mask on your face works or not.
    It changes from day to day, but they know better than I do.

    • cc rider May 4, 2020 at 11:01 am #

      Well bless your heart Beryl. We Gen Xers and our Millennial and Gen Z brothers and sisters are willing to sacrifice mightily to keep you and all Boomers alive well beyond the age of 100. It’s what our Founders would have wanted. Oh yes! It’s twoo!

      • Walter B May 4, 2020 at 11:35 am #

        Keep us alive as long as possible in order to maximize our suffering for the Boomers have earned. I’m a tail end Boomer myself but was fortunate enough to not be raised to sellout but instead to be able to live a simple life as a responsible steward of what we have been blessed with. Far too many Boomers cannot say that and our generation has led the way to excess, waste, and enough greed to collapse it all. It is the beginning of the end of the American financial system.

        My auditor tells me tales of East Jersey towns that will soon be losing billions and billions of tax ratables from malls, hotels, and every other form of large business that has the wherewithal to succeed in tax court. We shall soon see those entities getting their taxes cut by 1/3 and there will only be one place else for the bloated municipal governments to turn to try to make up the shortfall – homeowners. Next year at this time (if there IS a next year at this time) it is going to be bad, really really bad, so enjoy the decline before it hits bottom, because it will.

        • cc rider May 4, 2020 at 11:45 am #


        • cc rider May 4, 2020 at 11:52 am #

          I’m a front end Gen Xer. You being a tail end Boomer probably means that you were born in the early 60s. I have long felt that those of us born in the 60s are our own sub-generation. We were all kids together in the 70s, and for the most part became teens and young adults together in the 80s. Even though people born in the mid to late 70s are Gen Xers I don’t really feel that I have as much in common with them as I do with those born in the very early 60s, even though they are technically Boomers.

          • Walter B May 4, 2020 at 1:10 pm #

            I was born in 1954 but was raised just as my grandparents raised my parents. I was blessed to believe that we are not owners, but stewards of this place and that even though so many cause so much trouble, in the end everything runs best if we work together and if we leave it as we found it.

          • rexl May 4, 2020 at 2:43 pm #

            Walter, if you were born in 1954, you are a middle of the road boomer, I think it goes from 1946 to 1964.

          • Walter B May 4, 2020 at 3:30 pm #

            Now I really feel dirty.

          • rexl May 4, 2020 at 5:05 pm #

            Screw the genxers and the millennials, each generation feels they are so superior to the one before it. They will get theirs from the generations that come later.

          • cc rider May 4, 2020 at 5:16 pm #

            Well rexl, as for me I certainly don’t feel “superior” to the Boomers. Sure that generation has it faults, but it was and is a very talented generation. I’m certainly mindful of all the great musicians and other artists within it. In reality I get tired of people of any generation getting painted with a wide brush with regards to its general faults. With each passing year I find myself more impressed with a lot of Millennials for example, after years of getting a pretty bad wrap as a group.

          • roccofire May 4, 2020 at 5:32 pm #


            I agree, I too born early 60’s. I read an article that said we were called wedgers, part of neither, but are own part. Anyway reading, watching syfy disaster movies, walking dead, I now have no desire for them. My post industrial city has a grocery store and a hospital system/university are our 2 biggest employers, the hospital system is going to layoff 20 to 25% of our work force. The current virus is not the only thing to worry about. Good times, good times ahead. Hmm, how to plant a potato?

          • Iananna May 6, 2020 at 7:56 pm #

            “I was so much older then, I’m younger than that now.”

          • eatabanker May 8, 2020 at 3:27 pm #

            Another fascinating post, CC.
            Please revel us in how you arrange your Gen X sock drawer.

        • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 6:10 pm #

          Hey Walter, hows that massive new mall outside Newark doing? I think it opened late last year, biggest mall in America, took about 15 years to build. You know the one.


          • Walter B May 4, 2020 at 6:16 pm #

            The last time I went past it was when I dropped off my wife and daughter and then picked them up after a Taylor Swift concert at Giants Stadium in July of 2018. The Joke Mall in question was still dead in the water. It is claimed on Wikipedia that:

            “The first and second of four opening stages occurred on October 25, 2019, and on December 5, 2019.[4][5] The remaining opening stages were scheduled to begin on March 19, 2020. However, due to the coronavirus pandemic, the opening of the final stages was delayed once more until further notice.”

            Personally I spent enough of my life commuting to Carlstadt and Hackensack for work when I was young to never need drive that fart East again. Good luck to them all is all I can say.

          • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 7:01 pm #

            Nice report Walter.

            Thanks for the response, my friend.

      • teddyboy46 May 4, 2020 at 2:04 pm #

        So what do you suggest ? Us Baby Boomers who have worked just as hard as any generation ? Commit Ritual Group Suicide to make the Millennials and the Slacker generations happier.

        • Iananna May 6, 2020 at 7:59 pm #

          Maybe spend some time learning grammar?
          WE Baby Boomers who have worked..”

          • sharonsj May 6, 2020 at 8:21 pm #

            Colloquialisms are perfectly acceptable English. Ain’t that right?

      • rexl May 4, 2020 at 2:20 pm #

        was Obama a genxer? has there ever been a president that was? did the democrats elect one? well, I guess that tells us something.

        • bluedog May 4, 2020 at 4:44 pm #

          What’s the difference we haven’t had a president since JFK that gave a rats ass about the country or the people,endless wars were our game then we found out we weren’t so good at that, as we couldn’t win any. and that speaks volume’s for the home team.!!

          • rexl May 4, 2020 at 5:07 pm #

            Yeah, I used to think JFK had it going on until I found out he chased every rat’s ass and all the other ass until it finally got his head blown off. Screw him, too. Truman and Johnson were right.

          • Walter B May 4, 2020 at 6:21 pm #

            I agree with you bluedog, and to those that can only point out Jack’s out of control penis I would say that every damned penis ever created was out of control. If we men are judged by what we do with our dicks then we are shit. If what we do otherwise with our lives can count for something then perhaps we have value. In any case, I do not believe that Jack Kennedy ever had to talk anyone into the sack with him as they were probably more than willing participants.

          • Iananna May 6, 2020 at 8:23 pm #

            Jimmy Carter was both honest & ethical, a man of probity.
            Not much of that around in this current drear daze.

          • benr May 7, 2020 at 11:56 am #

            Couldn’t is the wrong term wouldn’t is more apt.
            No other countries military ties its hands with rules of engagement like we do.
            The worst part our enemies know this and use it against us all the time.

        • cc rider May 4, 2020 at 5:17 pm #

          Obama was a true late Boomer, born in 1961.

          • shotho May 4, 2020 at 7:51 pm #

            Is it possible, maybe even desirable, to assess the actions of a president (or any leader) without reference to their sex lives. It seems that any president after him, isn’t fit to kiss Kennedy’s shoe.

          • cc rider May 4, 2020 at 9:38 pm #

            Yes shotho it is possible. As you’ll note in my posts so far, I have not one time assessed the actions of a president’s sex life.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 12:30 pm #

      Yes, even America is opening, some bizarre chains are now insisting that their customers all wear masks. Boycott.

      The perfect citizen wear their mask at home while watching TV or perhaps even to bed.

      • Helen Highwater May 4, 2020 at 3:45 pm #

        So why exactly do you think people should boycott stores that want to keep their staff and customers from being infected with the coronavirus? Is that part of Americans’ much-vaunted “freedoms”? Well Americans have the freedom to have no healthcare, freedom to eat from food banks, freedom to have a trillion dollar war machine, but take away the freedom to not wear a mask while shopping and boo hoo.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 8:42 pm #

          Karen! How are you?

          • yooper2017 May 11, 2020 at 1:16 pm #

            SO EDGY.

      • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 4:46 am #

        Statistical analysis has proven absolutely that “Janos Skorenzy” is a complete and utter fucking right-wing racist nutter. Please avoid anything they say!

      • GreenAlba May 5, 2020 at 8:13 am #

        “The perfect citizen wear their mask at home while watching TV or perhaps even to bed.”

        How’s the straw man business going? Must be doing fine as they seem to be everywhere. I guess that makes you a Janis.

        I had to look up ‘Karen’. Apparently it means a middle-aged, entitled white woman of the type who frequently demands to ‘see the manager’ because she’s never happy with goods and services provided to her.

        Mission creep seems to be everywhere, even among ‘Karens’.

        Helen Highwater doesn’t strike me as the ‘I want to speak to the manager’ type of person at all.

      • Iananna May 6, 2020 at 8:26 pm #

        The sort of person who goes to bed in underwear beneath their pyjamas.

  4. bluekayak May 4, 2020 at 10:01 am #

    A wonderful read as always… Having owned a 1975 Vega which actually DID throw a rod while doing 70mph one sunny morning in the mid ’80s on the Seaford Oyster Bay Expy, I love the imagery. The rod actually went clear through the aluminum engine block, the plume of blue smoke was incredible as I glided to a halt…
    One quibble – Zoroastrianism is far from a “pseudo-religion”… it arguably provided a good deal of the bedrock for Judaism and Christianity. It’s quite unfortunate that the sophisticated Persians of old had their original faith almost entirely eradicated by the islam of their Arabic conquerors.

    • Beryl of Oyl May 4, 2020 at 10:12 am #

      Isn’t the Vega the one that rusted on the assembly line?

      Zoroastrianism is what Freddie Mercury was raised in. You probably knew that.

      • bluekayak May 4, 2020 at 11:15 am #

        #1 – yes, mine was a bit of a rustbucket, too…
        #2 – He was a “Parsee”, still a sizeable group in India descended from the refugees al those centuries ago.

        one problem for the Zoroastrians’ survival is their strict endogamy and reluctance to proselytize. There’s still a core of them in Iran, they’re a somewhat protected community along with the few Jews and Christians there. I think each group even gets a seat in their parliament.

        • Q. Shtik May 4, 2020 at 12:23 pm #

          one problem for the Zoroastrians’ survival is their strict endogamy – bluekayak


          …such as having children born with flipper arms and/or two heads 🙂

        • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 12:36 pm #

          In Iran, they’re not allowed to and in India, they promised the local King they wouldn’t since India had enough religions already. So now they die. Freddy could have proselytized but he was already proselytizing for another religion, that of Homosexuality. I had never heard about him being one before. What was his real name? No doubt they want to keep that quiet…..

          Q, where is the paen you promised me in regards to my metaphor of scrimmage?

          • GreenAlba May 4, 2020 at 12:54 pm #

            “What was his real name? No doubt they want to keep that quiet…..”

            Farrokh Bulsara. Who is ‘they’ that failed so spectacularly in their aim to keep that quiet and what was their motivation? Record producers? Gays? The other band members? The illuminati?

            Seriously, what is it that makes you say things like that constantly, without the slightest evidence, when any dumbo can go on to Wikipedia and find out his real name? Is it your strategy of keeping everyone terrified of all the iterations of ‘them’?

          • Q. Shtik May 4, 2020 at 4:09 pm #

            Q, where is the paen you promised me in regards to my metaphor of scrimmage? – Janos


            Don’t know what you are referring to, Janos. Give me a date and time.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 8:44 pm #

            Well I never heard about it before today? Did you? I don’t believe he was a practicing Zoroastrian, and I doubt if they claimed him either.

          • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 4:48 am #

            Statistical analysis has proven absolutely that “Janos Skorenzy” is a complete and utter fucking right-wing racist nutter. Please avoid anything they say!

      • Paul May 4, 2020 at 12:08 pm #

        The Vega. Made to fail by 60,000 miles. Dad’s Studebaker went from new to rust-bucket in two years. And the rocket fins on them 1950’s behemoths would catch all the salty-slush thrown up by the rear wheels, and they’d rust through and fall off even faster. Lol.

    • stelmosfire May 4, 2020 at 10:25 am #

      Hey Bluekayak, I bet you wish you still had that Vega, eh? Gotta love those aluminum blocks with no cylinder liners.
      Here’s a survivor just out of storage.Looks like it kept up with inflation.


      • bluekayak May 4, 2020 at 11:17 am #

        Oil burning and rust issues aside, that little car was pretty zippy with the three-speed manual and 2.3 liter 4-banger. That green one is well-kept!

      • WayfaringStranger May 4, 2020 at 11:44 am #

        My mega-idiot boyfriend talked me into buying one for $500 in the early 80s. A total POS, both the car and the BF. I can’t remember if it started on fire before I even drove it or right after. My neighbor had a Pacer. My friend drove a Gremlin. All horrors.

        Looking back and admiring garbage (as opposed to actually cool or quality retro stuff) is a mistake – whether it’s a cheap car or George W. Bush. Don’t do it.

        • DrTomSchmidt May 4, 2020 at 12:16 pm #

          Yes, we forget how bad cars were then. People love to complain, but one thing killing car sales today is how reliable cars of 15 years ago were. I am still driving a 2001 Car, and it’s costing me only about $600 a year to maintain.

          Sales tax on a new car would be much more.

          • Nightowl May 4, 2020 at 2:09 pm #

            It is also the cost of new cars. I’ve nearly caved and bought a new car twice in the past 8 mos.

            Here in Germany, they are phasing out diesel (implementing green zones in cities, etc.) and my Merc. C-Class is now over 10 yrs old. The problem is, it looks and drives great.

            And 3 year old used stuff (with a proper engine) starts at about 35-40k. New those same cars go for 50-60. Pricing has gotten way out of hand. Even a boring new white goods car like a Camry has drastically increased in price.

            I just can’t pony up when I have something that is costing me so little to run and doing the job so well (despite its age).

          • Robert White May 4, 2020 at 4:34 pm #

            I’m still driving my 1996 Monte Carlo as insurance is cheap with no collision or deductible bells n’ whistles as add-ons.

            A new check engine light just went off today so I’ll now have to troubleshoot that thingy. My parts supplier guy tells me to keep my 1996 going as the market for used cars is full of costly lemons by comparison with my ancient car.

            Old autos are good if they are reliable & safe.

            I’m pretty sure I can make my car last for another decade.


          • bluedog May 4, 2020 at 4:49 pm #

            Oh my in a throw a-way system,cars included you’ll put the auto makers out of business, and its C.E.O. with his $50 million dollar package.!!

          • voight-kampff May 4, 2020 at 5:23 pm #

            I have (a few) 1983 Mercedes-Benz 240D, and I’d argue it’s one of best mass-produced cars ever built. I even converted some from automatic to manual

          • Iananna May 6, 2020 at 8:38 pm #

            Still driving a 91 Ford Lazer, 25,000 km pa, NIL repairs and coming up to 260K on the clock.
            Change the oil at 10,000, and all I do is put petrol in it, burns no oil and, until our last couple of summers with weeks well over 40C, I only check the water after a long drive when the temperature gauge climbs a bit until the thermostat kicks in.

        • bluekayak May 4, 2020 at 2:53 pm #

          Well, it cost me $75 bucks from my uncle, I got a year + use out of it, and even after I smoked the motor I sold it for $100 (it had two alloy wheels, a Vega buff – yes they apparently existed) was happy to hand me the cash and tow it away.

          Yes, it was a total POS, but I was young and broke and having a blast…. I’m not really admiring the bucket of bolts, I’m just remembering my early 20’s…

      • malthuss May 4, 2020 at 12:15 pm #

        cute looking.

      • benr May 4, 2020 at 1:11 pm #

        How about the Monza 3 cylinder wonder! Well you wondered if it would ever get up to 55!
        My mom bought one after her POS boyfriend rolled and totaled her equally horrible Gremlin with me asleep in the back.
        I woke up to a very concerned CHP officer asking me if I was alive.
        Tossed out the busted window as the car rolled from him going off the pavement into the dessert sand at 55 mph.
        This same asshole also crashed a brand new jet boat that weekend.
        Seems he had a bit of a drinking problem at the time.

        • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 3:03 pm #

          Good story Ben.

          That’s California I guess!

        • bluedog May 4, 2020 at 4:54 pm #

          Bought the wife one of those off the show room floor and it was the best car we ever owned,pass the stalled traffic on the hill covered with snow and ice,right up and over never a problem until she let the kids dive it which is a no-no for any car.!!!!

      • San Jose May 4, 2020 at 3:36 pm #

        My first car was a 1971 Plymouth Satellite Sebring. I fondly remember the solid steel rear bumper. A Honda Accord rear ended me once and it took me 30 seconds with a crow bar to solve my problems, whereas her car was smashed to bits including the radiator and engine block. I didn’t even bother to get her insurance carrier.

        Jen in Salt Lake

        • Robert White May 4, 2020 at 4:42 pm #

          I had my dad’s 1971 Maverick four door when I turned 16, but my brother’s 1967 Beaumont Sport Deluxe 396cid & 400 transmission with Posi-traction 12 bolt differential was my better ride that made up for the four door embarrassment that my dad stuck me with.


    • wet dog May 4, 2020 at 10:53 am #

      Good old Zoroastrianism. If you’re driving a Mazda, you’re worshiping ol’ Zoro every day. The symbol of Zoroastrianism is the “winged chariot”, where Ahura Mazda, their “god” (alien), flies down to earth to check on his slaves, er, worshipers.

      And that’s exactly what the car logo represents: the circle of the chariot and its wings.

      Interesting that a Japanese company would use a central Asian deity for its logo… It may make you wonder if all the major religions throughout history are worshiping the same creature. Heck, you may lose your mind and start reading “conspiracy theorists” like Icke to understand our real religious history.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 12:38 pm #

        Conspiracy theories – yeah, like the conspiracy of gravity. Conspiracy Facts!

        • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 4:49 am #

          Statistical analysis has proven absolutely that “Janos Skorenzy” is a complete and utter fucking right-wing racist nutter. Please avoid anything they say!

          • benr May 5, 2020 at 8:56 am #

            Proven fact the bot is affected by Janos.
            Good job Janos just two more shifts of idiots to piss off.

      • Iananna May 6, 2020 at 8:44 pm #

        In Euroland Mazda is a brand of light globe.

    • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 10:57 am #

      Wow, ’75 Chevy Vega.

      That’s right up there with the ’74 Ford Pinto in the pantheon of bad ideas. That was a rocky era for the American automobile. Do you remember the 77 Cadillac diesel model? 35 ft long, belched black smoke like one of Andrew Carnegie’s steel plants. That didn’t last long either.

      That was some great writing Mr Kunstler; is what keeps many of us here.


      • malthuss May 4, 2020 at 12:17 pm #

        My aunt bought a Pinto. I vaguely remember it. Dangerous, to say the least.

      • Robert White May 4, 2020 at 2:00 pm #

        Chev Vega was noteworthy for the ‘Cosworth’ Vega and the fact that it would fit a big block without alteration. It is the cheapest GM uni-body car that could be hopped up with mere change of block size whether small or big blocks.

        Vegas are hot collector cars if they are solid.


      • Majella May 5, 2020 at 9:09 am #

        New Zealand only ever had imported cars. The Australian things – Holdens (GM) & Aussie Ford Falcons were too expensive for the likes of us.

        The British things – Hillman, Humber. Vauxhall, British Fords, MG, etc – were truly awful: small, under-engineered, underheated (if they HAD heater), and all but impossible to fix without taking out the engine (I have a lot of brothers and one who thought that was fun!).

        Our father, on the other hand, started with a 1948 Vauxhall (British crap), and when the third kid arrived he moved up to a 1954 Chevy Belair. Luxury! I still remember it

        His next car, (when the 7th kid arrived) was a 1957 Chevy Belair – he could fit five kids across the back seat, the second youngest between him & mum in the front, who had the youngest in her lap. (What was a seatbelt? Who knew…)

        When the eigh arrived, he had to upgrade again – 1961 Chevy Belair – automatic this time – it veritably ‘floated’ along the road.

        Then the used Jap imports started arriving in the1980s and the prices fell through the floor.

        • Q. Shtik May 5, 2020 at 12:33 pm #

          I have a lot of brothers and one who thought that was fun! – Maj


          Eight kids!!

          That brother into car mechanics should have removed your dad’s ‘Johnson Rod’.

        • Iananna May 6, 2020 at 8:48 pm #

          Possibly the best car Holden ever produced was the station wagon FC (higher compression than the otherwise excellent FE) until the EH with the 179 for the true rev heads.

  5. benr May 4, 2020 at 10:05 am #

    Is this another ridiculous idea to inflate away debt?
    If so there goes your 401k and your savings mine as well by wheelbarrows now to cart in those worthless Weimar marks for a loaf of bread.

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    • shotho May 4, 2020 at 10:17 am #

      Inflation might happen or, probably, something like stagflation; an economy that produces very little, but that little is increasingly more expensive. The analogy of a black hole for new ‘money’ being created out of nothing is an apt one, which suggests that the most probable outcome is a debt default depression. This is a time when the value of ‘money’ actually increases because there is so little of it in circulation.

  6. Beryl of Oyl May 4, 2020 at 10:06 am #

    Chris Cuomo was entitled to break quarantine, so he gets a free pass on faking that he had been in his basement for two weeks.

    You see, he was in his ‘own back yard’ when confronted by a cyclist who criticized him for ignoring the governor’s stay at home orders.
    That the back yard he was in, wasn’t the back yard of the house he lives in and was supposed to be in the basemen of, is irrelevant.

    As a New Yorker, I should have known better. I can’t say I am unfamiliar with the lordly status of people in the NYC metro area who own more than one residence or property. I forgot myself.

    • Nightowl May 4, 2020 at 10:27 am #

      He gets a free pass because it was a propaganda stunt created by the McMedia.

  7. Pucker May 4, 2020 at 10:09 am #

    [Balding white bloke in a lab coat working for an academic research institute sucking on the tit of US government NIH grants. (NIH provided funding to the Wuhan Institute of Virology to undertake bioweapons Gain-of-Function research on bat coronaviruses.]

    “We ran the Covid 19 virus sequence through our computer, and we concluded that it doesn’t look anything like what a computer would produce, so it must be Natural and not man-made.”

    Bloke in the audience: “But if it was made of spliced together pieces of different viruses, then wouldn’t it also not appear to be made by a computer?”

    “It is odd that a natural virus has 2 different mechanisms of attacking. Even more so if both at the same time are new mutations (ace2 & cd147). Points towards man made, not natural.
    Right from the start (when this info came available in January), i found it suspicious that relative to similar virusses, this Wuhan virus is very large. (~30k nucleotides). That also points to man made.”

    • fugeguy May 4, 2020 at 10:47 am #

      But Pucker the CDC and WHO both agree. Don’t listen to the pesky scientists who are doing actual science only listen to those mobbed up in defending their own political and financial interests.

      • Beryl of Oyl May 4, 2020 at 10:50 am #

        The head of WHO is a terrorist, not a doctor, but never mind.

      • Pucker May 4, 2020 at 11:21 am #

        Americans from the US Centers for Disease Control worked for the Chinese government as private consultants to help build the P4 lab in Wuhan. True story….

        • fugeguy May 5, 2020 at 10:20 am #

          Yes indeed. Including 7 to 8 million dollars in funding from the sainted Dr. Fauci’s institute to study bat coronavirus’s in the Wuhan lab. I am sure only with the best of intentions to protect mankind and a total coincidence.

    • Soloview May 4, 2020 at 12:57 pm #

      There is a number of strong indications that the SARS-Cov-2 is not just some escaped chimera but a complex multi-generational bio-engineering product, that has been cultivated in the lab and “improved” by new inserts likely for years to yield high infectivity and controlled pathogenicity. The key is the 5′ UTR leader sequence that does not look like anything belonging in the class of coronaviruses. It appears to mutate in more in 15-24 nucleotids out of about a hundred, compared with the nearest known bat viruses. That is huge and this is the reason that K. Andersen believes it there is only one-in-a-million chance it was human made. This “head of the virus” controls its “identity” in replication and its cellular binding. This is perhaps the only stable region of the RNA genome (except the 3′ end), which is otherwise quite unstable. This led Andersen to proclaim that no lab could create such a sequence and make the virus live. But that really does not take into account incremental GOF acquired through trial-and-error in dozens or perhaps hundreds of experiments finally yielding a highly potent product to cover in search for a universal coronavirus treatment and vaccine. (This effort mimicked the search for universal flu t&v). At any rate, there is no naturally harvested SARS-Cov-2 from bats, and the nearest wild virus (RTG13) has been ruled out as a progenitor. So at the moment, the majority of scientists and U.S. intelligence idiots, who swear the virus is natural, have neither a sample of the virus in the wild, nor the identity of the wildlife that transmitted the virus to humans, nor finally an explanation for this global scourge’s preference, durability and effectiveness in its brand new host .

  8. scoubidou123 May 4, 2020 at 10:37 am #

    I keep reading screeds like this. The system is rotten! Surely it can’t go on like this indefinitely! It will blow up! Any day now! The people are fed up! They will rise up! “I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near the Hamptons on that fateful day.”

    But I just cannot the see the link between the analysis of a state of affairs, no matter how accurate, and the conclusion… the overthrow of the government. I have no problems seeing a mob in city centers, randomly screaming, thrashing things, smashing window fronts, burning cars… and then going home. Then what? Beyond that?

    Communists of old, for all their ideological stupidity, had an organization. A semblance of a plan for taking over. Our men will take over the airways. The police stations. The state broadcaster. The army barracks. Worker unions will control factories and power plants. We will write the editorials. Does anyone picture sullen newly unemployed suburbanites doing this? 4chan discontents?

    Case in point: the “gilets jaunes” movement in France. Disgruntled ordinary people bursting into the scene. An awful lot of people who are mad as hell and won’t take it any more! They came out of the woodwork, managed to block traffic, and then… Then it became clear that no one had any idea what they were suposed to do next, there was no plan, no leader, no agreement on anything beyond dissatisfaction. The movement lost steam, splintered, their events got taken over by the radical left, and died.

    • Beryl of Oyl May 4, 2020 at 10:43 am #

      A handy disease outbreak also helped quell a lot of protests.

      • scoubidou123 May 4, 2020 at 11:52 am #

        Beryl of Oyl,

        I do not kow what you mean by that. “Handy” seems to indicate something that was just too convenient to be a chance or natural event, that the outbreak was intended by someone.

        Please elaborate. What protests were those? The anti-Trump pussyhats resistance protests? So the virus was a move by crack pro-Trump virologists? The Hong-Kong protesters? So Beijing unleashed the virus to quell those protesters? The antifa crowd? So the outbreak is the work of… a… rogue exasperated Portland police commisioner? Anti-high tech gentrification protesters in SF and Silicon valley? So Google and Bill Gates shut them up? Trump rallies? So a democrat governor infected some.. pangolins in Wuhan? What do you have in mind? Do tell!

        • cbeard May 4, 2020 at 1:26 pm #

          I don’t think China released the virus intentionally as that would have been shooting themselves in the foot economically. Remember the old adage about truth being stranger than fiction. Who knows. Concerning human folly and fuck ups, nothing surprises me anymore.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 12:53 pm #

      Well yes. If they had a Plan and an Organization, the Leaders would have been arrested and the Organization made illegal. Google Vlam Blok for Belgium. And the Golden Dawn in Greece.

      There needs to be a bimodal Organization, both open and secret, legal and illegal. I mean the System doesn’t want to give up power, but it may realize that it has to or fight an insurgency that it can’t win. Quebec got semi-independence with only a bit of violence, but the threat of more. But they were unified, consistent, and loud in their demand. America is more organized than Canada, but if California keep shouting for independence for the next few decades, it may happen. Of course America collapses, it all might come down quicker since many won’t want to live under the Totalitarianism that arises.

      • scoubidou123 May 4, 2020 at 2:12 pm #

        Well, a good chunk of the Quebec population had a goal, which was to reach independence, but then it was a relatively straightforward change, move the national capital from Ottawa to Quebec City. And regarding a formal status change, it got exactly zilch.

        The discussion is about a population about to go on a bloody rampage in the Hamptons, overthrowing a crumbling set of political and economic arrangements, and replacing them with something radically different.

        I just wanted to say I do not see any group doing this any time soon, Neither who would do it, nor how. Yeah. Plenty of people really worried about their future. Many bitching on comment sections about corporations, the Fed, the Elites, George Soros, the oil industry, the Jews, white supremacy, tech giant censorship, the intelligence-military-industrial complex, SJW, Wall street, the reptilians, Bill Gates, whatnot, They bitch online and then go to bed. It adds up to nothing.

  9. Billy Hill May 4, 2020 at 10:39 am #

    Got up early to watch Planet of the Humans.
    Trenchant critique of techno-narcissism. (Now There’s an ism for you!)
    No one on the Green Side is spared. Gore gets gored.

    I can’t recall the name of the fellow — Greenpeace Founder or something like that — who favored nuclear power.

    Those of us in the power industry have known all along that “renewables” were not remotely “Green”. Biomass is particularly guilty. The latest fad — Battery Energy Storage Systems… Need we say more? Yet there are people who believe batteries grow like vegetables.

    IF you just cannot bring yourself to turn the light on after you leave the room (or the space heater or the toilet seat heater) and are certain of the CO2 argument, then the only solution more or less near at hand is use of nuclear energy to boil water to create steam to move the turbines that generate electrical power. Period, end of discussion.

    Now can we get about the business of establishing better standards, look at alternative nuclear fuels, reactor designs, closing the loop so far as the Second Law allows?

    • gustafson.robert.22 May 4, 2020 at 11:00 am #

      I see the film as a call to clarity, realism and first principles for anyone dealing with environmental subjects. Imo we need a great peak-oil, peak-hydrocarbon public-sphere large-scale discussion and debate. It’s been about a decade now. Lets make peak oil great again

    • benr May 4, 2020 at 11:03 am #

      bag nuclear power is a non-starter.
      The byproduct is just to damn toxic.
      We have no way of diffusing it and storing it is always a problem as radiation corrodes everything we have to store it and it will always break free and out and when it does well we have seen it before.
      Cancer, mutations, death!
      At least oil and its by products while toxic do break up and go away after a short period of time not tens of thousands of years.

      • Billy Hill May 4, 2020 at 12:02 pm #

        The French reprocess. US cannot for a variety of legal reasons. The US Navy has a lot of experience. Not sure how they handle the by-product.

        There are other fuel sources in discussion.

        But so long as we agree with the movie’s premise that renewable energy is largely a sham then we are getting somewhere. (Solar panels have applications. Just not measured in MW or GW.)

        The late nineteenth century won’t scale. At least in today’s populations.

        • CancelMyCard May 4, 2020 at 12:44 pm #

          That is why, if things are not fixed soon, there WILL be a mass die-off — engineered by either the world oligarchy or by Mother Nature.

          The Covid19 virus is just the camel’s nose under the tent. There will be more potent and viscous ones coming down the pike.

          And when it is done with us, the 19th century will scale just fine.

          • Q. Shtik May 4, 2020 at 4:34 pm #

            There will be more potent and viscous ones (die-offs) coming down the pike. – CancelMyCard


            Yeah, they’ll be as thick as black strap molasses.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 11:13 pm #

            Or Karo!

    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 12:57 pm #

      We have finally become adults, putting away childish things like Bread and Circus puppets and all ideas of green energy. Even just a few years ago, there were large demonstrations of “Karens” and their Kids shouting about “science”! Saw some Karens protesting wearing green construction helmets, about the shovel ready jobs Obama promised. Towards the end of his second term, Obama collapsed into suppressed guffaws when asked about the shovel ready jobs.

      • benr May 4, 2020 at 1:15 pm #

        Obama just collapsed into the fake he we all knew he was.
        Nothing real about the guy.
        No new plans smoke mirrors and grifts.
        We are still dealing with all his scams and power grabs as they are still going on we see them over and over daily here on this site.
        Sock puppets and useful idiots still lying about orangeman bad.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 1:41 pm #

          Yes, he promised to be the most transparent but he was the least, ruthlessly partisan and malicious towards all who would not bow to him. Yet, the still the liberal fools love this despicable punk.

        • Nightowl May 4, 2020 at 2:16 pm #

          He is going down. Never thought I would say it a few years ago, but his fingerprints are all over the Coup, never mind Spygate. The fish rots from the head.

          “POTUS [Obama] wants to know everything we are doing.” — The Stroker

      • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 2:02 pm #

        There’s an initiative out there right now to cancel ‘Planet of the Humans’ led by grifters trying to keep the alt energy scam going awhile longer. Too late. The whole world is on to them now. Just in time too. If they had gotten what they wanted it would be a world of blackouts aand brownouts, and any complainers would be hunted down by the ‘Extinction Rebellion Red Brigade’ and sent to climate change gulag for a little re education to get you thinking right.


    • cbeard May 4, 2020 at 1:36 pm #

      Those in the power industry don’t want to lose their profits to alternative energy. The smart thing would be to use solar on every viable rooftop, wind and hydro, again where possible. You would still need some conventional power generation, but the demand could be lessened by a lot. If they ever figure out the fusion VS fission thing, maybe nuclear power could safely be used. I see fields of solar panels sprouting up all around where I live, but they are owned by the power company and they will gouge the consumer for the energy generated and keep their shareholders happy.

      • draupnir May 4, 2020 at 8:36 pm #

        Some years ago I read an article in which the Navy claimed they had proven cold fusion. I’ve seen nothing further since that time, though I did find some articles on it when I Goggled. Their lips are pretty much sealed on that subject.

      • Billy Hill May 5, 2020 at 7:29 am #

        Watch the movie. Solar panels have embedded oil (mining, refining, manufacturing), their advertised lifetimes are way optimistic, and then they must be re-claimed or otherwise disposed. I heard from a source that some solar developers turn the panels into work tables.

        That’a a lot of work tables out there.

        Windmills may even be worse.

        Yes, alt-power disrupts the industry business model. All those rooftop independent power producers providing intermittent power to the local grid. Then a black cloud passes over…

        If you want to go off-grid have at it. The tools are there and you can be your own power producer. Just don’t expect those guys in the bucket trucks to show up after a hail storm.

  10. draupnir May 4, 2020 at 10:41 am #

    I have refrained from speaking to my daughters about my increasing alarm, as they generally put their fingers in their ears and sing “la, la, la, I can’t hear you,” when I do so. Granted, I am more than a little paranoid. However, last night my eldest approached me, because apparently, her long-suppressed spidey sense is tingling with intimations of really bad things approaching, and she wasn’t talking about corona virus. She’s now on board with bug out planning.

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    • Beryl of Oyl May 4, 2020 at 10:46 am #

      I had a sense that something big was going to happen, and I hoped it was going to be arrests stemming from a coup attempt, which I’m pretty sure is illegal.
      It turned out to be a disease with attendant idiocy.

      • draupnir May 4, 2020 at 1:04 pm #

        I’m not entirely convinced a coup has not occurred.

        • Nightowl May 4, 2020 at 2:18 pm #

          “What storm Mr. President?”

          “You’ll find out …”

  11. neon sky May 4, 2020 at 10:43 am #

    “There’s going to be a lot of trouble.”

    No kidding, maybe sooner rather than later. Has anyone noticed that supermarket shelves are getting bare? I go to the supermarket every week and a half. On my last visit it had the same look as photos of bare store shelves in the collapsing Soviet Union. It’s scary. Friends who live elsewhere say the same is happening in their neck of the woods. Isn’t making sure the food system hangs together something the federal gov should be keenly interested in, or is the Golden Man going to say this a problem for the states to handle, like he has with critical medical equipment? Imagine there was no food for all the hungry jobless people siting in their cars lined up for a handout.

    • Beryl of Oyl May 4, 2020 at 10:48 am #

      He helped the states get critical medical equipment.

    • fugeguy May 4, 2020 at 10:50 am #

      Still seems MEME driven to me. First it was TP (still mostly made in North America oddly enough), then it was fresh stuff and now it is meat. Rotating OCD of the proles.

      • Beryl of Oyl May 4, 2020 at 10:57 am #

        It was suspicious. People started reporting instances of shelf-clearing of toilet paper in random locations. Others heard about it, and it created a shopping frenzy.
        One woman I know went to do her regular shopping after I had mentioned to her that TP was disappearing in odd locations, and she found not only no toilet paper where it once was plentiful, but all the meat was gone as well.
        This was before anything was shut down over the virus. I do not believe this was spontaneous at first.

        • benr May 4, 2020 at 11:08 am #

          The cupboard was bare in an Diego but my local Vons was all stocked up except TP.
          Everything else was stocked to capacity.
          Even oddly enough bread yeast and flour which has been non-existent since this started.

    • scoubidou123 May 4, 2020 at 11:59 am #

      Supermarket shelves are NOT bare here. They are as full as always.

      There were some scare and empty shelves about toilet paper, but that was panic hoarding, not a supply problem.

      • malthuss May 4, 2020 at 12:18 pm #

        Not a supply chain disruption, YET. Not yet.

        • scoubidou123 May 4, 2020 at 1:45 pm #

          Maybe, maybe not. Just my reply to “supermarket shelves are getting bare”

    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 12:59 pm #

      That’s what happens when you close down the economy. Millions in India and Africa will die because of this self indulgent madness. Crops rot in the fields and milk is poured out upon the ground. Thanks WHO Satanists!

    • roccofire May 4, 2020 at 6:05 pm #

      Trying to find Lysol spray, wipes, Clorox wipes missing since the beginning is impossible. Meat, canned beans low and price very high. I am in Western New York.

  12. BelizeBound May 4, 2020 at 10:48 am #

    “Of course, it isn’t capitalism, so-called, that is failing, but the perversions of capitalism, starting with the appendage of the troublesome term: ism. It isn’t a religion, or even a pseudo-religion…It’s simply the management system for surplus wealth.
    ” Real capital is grounded in the production of real things of real value, of course, and when it’s detached from all that, it’s no longer real capital. Money represents capital, and when the capital isn’t real, the money represents…nothing! And ceases to be real money.”

    Real money has been under assault in the current iteration since 1913 in the USA. The Fed’s purpose was to transfer wealth from the producers of real wealth, the working and middle classes, to the 1% and turn us into what Venezuela has become. Any central banking system, anywhere and anytime, is thinly disguised Socialism.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 1:04 pm #

      True. Communism is a project of Capitalism. And Capitalism is not without blame since as Marx said, Capital does tend to centralize. Without guidance and control, the Economic Elite will seize power – by hook or by crook.

      And without the central banking system? They would still seize power in a different way unless we seized it first.

  13. middle shelf May 4, 2020 at 10:49 am #

    Forget how many Americans understand all the different Fed lending facilities.

    How many can define what a dollar is? How many understand what a Federal Reserve Note is?

    Once you realize that maybe 1 in a million truly understand both, then you realize why things are the way they seem.

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    • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 11:38 am #

      I don’t really understand any of it, and I’m one who tries to pay attention. It seems incomprehensible.


      • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 1:08 pm #

        Imagine buying a Monopoly Game for twenty five dollars – and then being able to use all the Monopoly money as real dollars. Think you would buy more Monopoly Games? It’s like that.

        With their fake money, they get real capital, labor, property, and resources. So they keep printing up more. And every time someone takes out a loan, money is created. I mean the guy doesn’t go back into the vault to get a handful of 100’s. He created it with a click of a mouse. And you have to pay him back – whether the venture succeeds or fails. He can’t lose.

        • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 2:08 pm #

          Good explanation.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 2:35 pm #

            In the Days of our Expansion and Greatness, Bankers would lend real money for ventures to the Indies to purchase spices or alas, slaves in Africa, etc. And if the ship went down? They lost too. Now they can’t lose and thus by definition, all wealth and power will accrue to them over time. Almost there….

        • middle shelf May 4, 2020 at 3:11 pm #

          “Real dollars” still goes back to my original question, what Is a dollar?

          See 31 USC §5112.

          For federal reserve notes, see 12 USC § 411 and 412.

          It takes 2 minutes to understand how both are statutorily defined. How they are applied takes a bit more research and understanding.

  14. Kevvia Knack May 4, 2020 at 10:53 am #

    Today is the 50th anniversary of “Kent State”. 1970 may have been a “ball of confusion” (nod to The Temptatons) but the year might likely have been the peak of the American experiment

    • Beryl of Oyl May 4, 2020 at 10:58 am #

      You may be right about that.

    • Robert White May 4, 2020 at 7:57 pm #

      That tricky dick bastard closed the gold window in August 1971 soon afterward so I’ll agree with you on peak America being Kent State debacle.

      Sly & the Family Stone was big in 1970 and so was Motown. The big three automakers were all hitting peak gas guzzling horse power too. Crappy B Grade movies like Billy Jack & Dirty Mary Crazy Larry were hits at the old drive in theaters which no longer exist anywhere in North America.

      And you could still buy an American made Fender Stratocaster back in 1970 too.


  15. gustafson.robert.22 May 4, 2020 at 11:02 am #

    MPOGA (make peak oil great again)

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  16. akmofo May 4, 2020 at 11:06 am #

    That big machine is smoldering in a ditch for the moment. The dazed and bloodied passengers realize that the ride is over, and now they must march on to get somewhere, anywhere, away from this miserable ditch and the wreckage in it. The fine spring weather is their only consolation.

    Maybe in China. Not in the US.

    China is quickly running out of US dollars. Without US dollars and the underhanded ways China gets these US dollars, China is finished. More accurately, the Communist occupation of China is finished. The exchange rate to the US dollar has climbed past 7, the red line, and soon things in China will look as they look in Turkey and then the next stop is Venezuela.

    The US will be fine. But first it needs to round up the commie China agents of the DNC and the Deep State, line them up against the wall and feed them full of lead.

    • benr May 4, 2020 at 11:09 am #

      What a waste of good lead.
      Just use a rope it can be used over and over without the noise and air pollution.

      • cc rider May 4, 2020 at 11:22 am #

        I like it! Practical….efficient….and environmentally friendly!

    • BelizeBound May 4, 2020 at 11:11 am #

      What about China’s gold and the system they’ve been working on with the Russians, Iran et al? No snarkiness, a sincere question.

      • akmofo May 4, 2020 at 11:18 am #

        How much gold does China have in reserves?

        China now holds 62.26 million ounces — about 1,945 tons — of gold, according to data from the People’s Bank of China. The sum is worth approximately $93.4 billion at current prices. The country has added about 94 tons of gold to its reserves in the past eight months.– Aug 7, 2019

        Now all you have to do is find out the US dollar value of China’s pork imports.

        • BelizeBound May 4, 2020 at 11:25 am #

          But don’t you think the People’s Bank of China is under reporting…just a tad? Jim Rickards has reported for several years that Russia and CommChina have been the biggest importers of the yellow metal.

          • akmofo May 4, 2020 at 11:44 am #

            Are the Chinese going to pay in gold for oil and food? Who will accept gold? What will oil be worth and what will gold be worth? We’ve seen oil at -$40 USD and it can just as easily be +$400 USD. Same story for Gold, and Bitcoin. It’s a wack a mole job to clear Communist China of its reserves. It was only a matter of unwillingness to do so thus far. That good will towards communist China now ended.

            Russia would be happy to see Communist China collapse. It refused to cooperate with China on the Belt & Road Initiative. Who will communist China turn to? And who really needs their gold?

    • sharonsj May 6, 2020 at 8:33 pm #

      I would agree, but only if we also can get rid of the loony-tunes Republicans and religious wackos, along with the big banks, hedge funds, and anyone with more than a billion dollars.

  17. SW May 4, 2020 at 11:24 am #

    It’s time to do a google search for recipes for rice & beans b/c you’re going to to need it. I’m talking dry rice and dry beans here, not canned or in packages you drop in boiling water. As the shelves in stores slowly empty and the truckers go on strike, I’d stock up on those two items. Speaking of truckers, there was a demonstration in DC yesterday of hundreds lining the street demanding better wages. So I guess the fools at the top of the pyramid still think it’s a good idea to squash the ones on the bottom? Who do they think delivers their Chardonnay?

  18. Pucker May 4, 2020 at 11:26 am #

    This report below has been getting a lot of play in the MSM.

    But it’s very dishonest. First, these entities get a lot of funding from the US NIH which was providing funding to the Wuhan Institute of Virology to undertake Gain-of-Function research on bat coronaviruses; and (b) it reaches the conclusion that the Covid 19 virus was not bioengineered because “ The adaptations that the virus has made to affect humans are actually very different than what you would expect if you were designing it using computational models in biological engineering.” In other words, they’re arguing that since their computer software wouldn’t have produced the Covid 19 virus, then it must be “Natural” and not man-made.

    But it does not consider whether the adaptations that the virus made to affect humans may have resulted of a lab technician cutting and pasting in parts of other viruses. Dr. Chris Martenson discusses this in his video. Chris Martenson is not a liar. The MSM is very dishonest.

    “ The coronavirus behind the global COVID-19 pandemic likely evolved from nature and not a lab, according to a new genetic study in Nature Medicine co-authored by a Tulane University virologist.

    A team of scientists from Tulane, Scripps Research Institute, Columbia University, University of Edinburgh and University of Sydney analyzed the genome sequence of the novel SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus that emerged in the city of Wuhan, China, last year and found no evidence that the virus was made in a laboratory or otherwise engineered.

    “We determined that SARS-CoV-2 originated through natural processes by comparing the genetic sequences and protein structures of other coronaviruses to those of new virus that causes COVID-19,” said study senior author Robert F. Garry, PhD, professor of microbiology and immunology at Tulane University School of Medicine. “It is very close to a bat virus. The adaptations that the virus has made to affect humans are actually very different than what you would expect if you were designing it using computational models in biological engineering.”


    • Cargill May 4, 2020 at 12:42 pm #

      A team of scientists from Tulane, Scripps Research Institute, Columbia University, University of Edinburgh and University of Sydney analyzed the genome sequence of the novel SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus that emerged in the city of Wuhan, China, last year and found no evidence that the virus was made in a laboratory or otherwise engineered.

      Well, I would definitely be inclined to believe all these institutions (disclaimer: I am a graduate of the University of Sydney with an Architectural Science degree) … certainly believe them more than those with an agenda who want this thing to have been bioengineered – so as to deflect blame and focus as we head to elections later this year.

      I am not discounting the lab theory altogether … but I am pretty sceptical of ignoring or discounting some fairly high-reputation research outfits that say it’s a natura;;y occurring coronavirus.

      Anyway – to me the scandal is the slow response and cover-up in Wuhan in December.

      • Pucker May 4, 2020 at 1:20 pm #

        Yeah…but Tulane, Scripps, etc. are subcontractors of the US NIH. Moreover, the conclusion that the virus is natural because their computer software wouldn’t have produced it is misleading because it does not address a natural virus given Gain-of-Function, which was the objective of the NIH funding given to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

        The fact that it is so misleading and dishonest suggests that they are trying to cover up the NIH’s culpability.

        It’s just more of the “We should believe the 17 intelligence agencies” rubbish….

        • Cargill May 4, 2020 at 7:02 pm #

          The fact that it is so misleading and dishonest suggests that they are trying to cover up the NIH’s culpability.

          Do reputable scientists a the University of Sydney have skin in this game? Would they be party to a cover-up and falsification of results and data just to avoid NIH embarrassment? If so, this is all more spider-webby than is imaginable!

    • Robert White May 4, 2020 at 1:39 pm #

      The Chancellor of Tulane University School of Medicine & senior author R. F. Garry PhD., professor of microbiology & immunology at Tulane U. can lick my balls in defence to my superior intellect as I, for one, can assure all that nCov-19 is indeed 100% bioweapon manufactured in the USA by the CIA & American taxpayer dollars.

      The microbiological cold war has just started, but China & Russian Federation, Cuba, et al. will win the war ultimately.

      Forensically, the USA is DOA.


      • Robert White May 4, 2020 at 1:42 pm #

        Edit: I meant deference NOT ‘defence’.


      • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 1:44 pm #

        Cuz dem Chini just too dumb to do all this by themselves. It had to be Whites, right Bob?

        • Robert White May 4, 2020 at 2:08 pm #

          Communists in China & Russian Federation, Cuba, et cetera, are highly intelligent, Janos. The Central Ineptitude Agency, on the other hand, isn’t IMHO.

          Sovereign intel is wholly different to that of International intel, Janos. Five-Eyes lost the intel war quite a while ago.

          Like I said, the game is now qualitatively & quantitatively forensic via the genome & genetic markers that can’t be removed.

          USA is DOA.


  19. teddyc May 4, 2020 at 11:40 am #

    Is the death of the machine by carona, or by comorbidity of the real reasons it was going soon enough?

    How much production has ceased? Is eating out, pro sports, theaters, or gyms really a necessary part of the economy. Less entertainment and being catered to, but if food and shelter still exist, what does it matter. A nice standard of living could exist with a quarter of the energy and work required to support the high entertainment lifestyle.
    It looked like an economy based on aristocracy and servants. Who cuts the grass and does the landscaping, does the cleaning, does the childcare, does the cooking, does the dishes. The ultimate goal of American free time became to be waited on and entertained, not to learn and create.

    • WayfaringStranger May 4, 2020 at 12:02 pm #

      Who are you imagining is doing the “waiting on”? I think your answer would reveal your own (I suspect elevated) class and income levels. I don’t know people who are being waited on, or engaging in anything approaching a “high entertainment lifestyle”.
      I chortle with amusement at the thought.
      I do know people who have been doing the grunt jobs for increasingly lower pay over the last several decades while also being demonized for opposing the importation of Third World workers to make it even worse.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 1:48 pm #

      Good question. Let Teddy answer the charge if he can. Do you support our poor or do you want them driven out into the streets, undercut by third world coolie labor? If the latter, you must admit that you are a monster.

      Zero immigration until there is full American Employment. And since that’s not going to happen, no more immigration at all – ever.

    • cbeard May 4, 2020 at 7:02 pm #

      I don’t eat out much, the only pro sport that I give a rats patootie about is “The Sweet Science”, haven’t been to a theater in years, don’t need a gym as I can bike and work out at home and I cut my own grass with a push mower, kids are grown and gone, I’m a damn good cook, read a lot, do my own dishes, try to learn something new everyday, when you stop learning you die faster, I create my own homegrown music with several instruments and friends. I’ve worked blue collar grunt jobs all my life and don’t need or want any goddamned servants.

  20. beantownbill. May 4, 2020 at 11:46 am #

    Ooh boy! I can hardly wait for November 3rd. This summer through next winter, we will be living through the Chinese curse: May you live in interesting times.

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    • benr May 4, 2020 at 11:53 am #

      How much more evident the fix is in the DNC talking points puked all over and anything that makes Biden look bad are just ignored and not reported by anyone but Fox, rightwing pundits, OAN or Alex Jones.
      Who needs the truth lets massage reality even more so the desired outcome of Orange man bad is out and plugs is in.
      Get ready for repeated mashing of hyperdrive buttons of never let a crisis go to waste type rhetoric while ignoring Biden all but falling asleep at the wheel over and over.
      He really has become the Mr Magoo of politics.

    • malthuss May 4, 2020 at 12:31 pm #

      If you live in lousy times, at least you live.

      Or as Joni Mitchell said, Life is good, when you consider the alternative.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 1:49 pm #

        These are the good old days. Things are darkest before they get really dark.

  21. axisboldaslove May 4, 2020 at 11:49 am #

    Another excellent entry, Jim. Well done and thank you!

  22. sauerkraut May 4, 2020 at 11:50 am #

    Got as far as

    “some pissant bureaucrats issue them $1200 checks.” Really, JHK.

    I thought it was Mr. Trump’s signature on the checks. Bureaucrats do what their political masters tell them to. If you don’t like the fact that the Feds are incompetent, blame the senators and congressmen who dismantled government. Check up on the bastards, and don’t give them a free pass because they are Republicans or Democrats. That’s just stupid – but not too stupid for some hereabouts.

    And JHK, you should already know that “pissant” is a corruption of the French “puissant”, which means powerful.
    Comes from the Latin.

    I expected better.

    • WayfaringStranger May 4, 2020 at 12:08 pm #

      PIss-ant refers to a piss-ant. Amazingly enough.

      Ants are generally insignificant in human life, they are tiny, so that term indicates non-power when called up in mental imagery.
      Piss is also generally seen as undesirable unless you are a Dem strategist who thinks it will be cool to talk about Trump and prostitutes urinating on prime time TV.

      Fuque your whole jejune remark.

      • benr May 4, 2020 at 12:23 pm #

        Yes there really is a piss ant argentine ants are hell.

        • sauerkraut May 4, 2020 at 12:58 pm #

          Thanks for the fact check.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 1:51 pm #

          And the killer hornets are here. Not only do they wipe out bee colonies, they can kill people. Their stingers can penetrate a bee keeper suit.

          • Billy Hill May 5, 2020 at 7:37 am #

            Washington State.
            They chose wisely.

          • GreenAlba May 5, 2020 at 8:24 am #

            They seem to be quite a size. Perhaps you could try shooting them?

          • benr May 5, 2020 at 9:09 am #

            I just read that as well.
            Scary looking bastards.
            I’m allergic as hell to bee stings but I still like bees and it made me sad to see they get wiped out by this damn hornets.

      • sauerkraut May 4, 2020 at 12:37 pm #

        You baffle me, Stranger. Clearly you could do better, but choose not to. Why is that? Don’t you think that it’s unpatriotic not to give your best at a time like this?

        In any case, QED.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 1:54 pm #

        Yea, kill that Yankee soldier!


    • sauerkraut May 4, 2020 at 12:47 pm #

      Thank you benr. It seems that I am in error about piss ant. Appreciate the fact check.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 2:32 pm #

        Hippocrates said that ants will be attracted to the piss of a man with diabetes. I assume that’s the origin of this.

        • bluekayak May 4, 2020 at 3:09 pm #

          Diabetes causes excess glucose to be excreted in the urine; indeed, physicians of old would taste test the wizz to ascertain the presence of the sweet stuff in diagnosing. So ants would likely veer toward diabetic pee.

    • elysianfield May 4, 2020 at 7:07 pm #

      You might have expected better, but you are wrong, as any Texan would be quick to explain;


  23. BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 11:51 am #

    Good points my friend.

    One of those food delivery services recently announced they were ‘hiring 250,000 new employees’. New employees? These are gig workers without benefits, maybe locked into one way contracts which doesn’t favor them, using their own cars without compensation, serving unionized govt employees and the leftovers from a dwindling middle class, creating a nation of lackeys and servants like in the UK about in 1910.


  24. RB May 4, 2020 at 11:51 am #

    With all that is going on, people still want to believe this collapse can be recovered. Of course it won’t because it cannot. We are seeing the old bit about “too big to fail” still being embraced. Well, the whole damn thing is failing whether admitted or not. Restart a collapsed economy? How? What’s the plan? Joe sixpack goes back to his uber job? He goes back to loading baggage on an airplane? He’s making bass boats that no one can buy? Everything is connected. When one part fails as in the case of Mr. K’s car, the whole thing stops. Anything still running is fantasy. Maybe some Amish guy with his horse and buggy will come by and give you a lift to town which is closed up. The local cop whose pay got cut by 2/3s ain’t in a good mood and you ain’t from around here bub. The library closed for good. Local, county, state and federal governments have all raised taxes such that your nice house which is so far underwater that Aquaman can’t reach you nonetheless is valued higher than before and your taxes are due. Solution? Move out after midnight. The riots are going to occur at tax offices. “Yes officer, my car registration has expired; yes, 3 years ago. No, I won’t pay the fines. Yes, lock me up except your prison has no room. Yes, I will stay at home with my ankle monitor. Yes, this is my 8th monitor.”

    You ain’t seen nothing yet folks.

    • benr May 4, 2020 at 12:21 pm #

      Indeed anarchy may well be on the way regardless of who sits in the Whitehouse, governors office, mayors office, city council or your local HOA!

    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 1:56 pm #

      Thank God we have diversity at least! Homogeneity is hell. Minorities are so vibrant – they have much to teach us about mayhem.

      • thwack May 4, 2020 at 4:32 pm #

        Sometimes “mayhem” is your friend; and might I add, its one of the few behaviors black people are good at.

        It may take some mayhem to end the lock down?

        Just sayin

        • elysianfield May 4, 2020 at 11:47 pm #

          “Sometimes “mayhem” is your friend; and might I add, its one of the few behaviors black people are good at.”

          You could suggest that “mayhem” is a lack of behavior.

          You so goddamned white, the street lights go OUT when you go out at night….

  25. DianaH May 4, 2020 at 12:04 pm #

    Help me out here, you history buffs. Can anyone think of a peasant led revolution that succeeded? All the successful revolutions that I can call to mind, French Revolution, American Revolution, Cromwell, were organized and led by the upper middle class who knew how government worked and what had to be done to replace it. Or did I miss something. Seems to be every rebellion led by the poor and working people got squashed like a bug

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    • WayfaringStranger May 4, 2020 at 12:16 pm #

      The United States of America.
      It succeeded with bells on. It was an example to all, in spite of flaws. The Founders knew there’d be flaws due to human nature and wrote the core documents with that in mind. The idea was not that they themselves were perfect, but that they saw the goals that should be aspired to
      The United States of America still exists.
      It’s about The People. It did not fail. Don’t let anyone tell you that it did, and don’t tell that to others yourself. It’s an evil and destructive thing to do.

      • DianaH May 4, 2020 at 12:20 pm #

        Yes but that revolution was led by the upper middle class. Jefferson, Washington Franklin were all quite well to do and quite experienced in the workings of government. The American Revolution was not a peasant rebellion even though it was supported by the working class

    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 1:58 pm #

      And funded by the upper class – renegade aristocrats in the case of France who wanted to turn it into an England. And the International Bankers in the case of the so called Russian Revolution.

  26. WayfaringStranger May 4, 2020 at 12:19 pm #

    Another one outta da’ park.

    Parting thought – Trucker’s families are still getting paychecks you know. Same as before.
    Kinda burns, don’t it.

  27. Robert White May 4, 2020 at 12:21 pm #

    Super excellent article today, Jim. Truth-to-power actually manifests on this blog when you write it too. Bottom line is that you are right on the money with complexity as an overarching form of Entropy that has engulfed Wall Street Investment Banking & ethos of so-called ‘money’.

    I was just in my local bank today and was asked ‘what brings you here today, Mr. White?’ as an opening of discourse. My response was typical Grumpy Marxist retort in that I responded with ‘poverty’ as an answer to the teller’s inquiry.

    Moreover, given the monotonous question by the teller I decided to rub some salt in the gaping wound of the bankster class by reminding my teller that his bank was the largest profit center in CANADA and that whilst it gets free discount money from CANADA’s central bank I, and all other Canadians get charged 26% on overdue accounts such as credit cards.

    And I think the branch manager noticed when she cocked her glance over in my direction as I loudly proclaimed that the bank was not going to make profit from me if I could avoid it.

    I don’t know why people attempt to make small talk with me anymore. I’m usually just all business and not a time waster when I go into any sort of store or bank for service.

    The bank is not my friend and contrary to their commercials they don’t really give a good God damn about me or my thoughts de jour.

    Societal lockdown should include the banks so that they are forced to suffer as everyone else does aside from the elite that are currently living in luxury on the Cayman Islands or somewhere equally as nice.

    nCov-19 is NOT my Marxian Revolution that I have been patiently waiting for, for the last half century.

    Societal lockdown should include suffering banks & bankers IMHO.

    Civilization must constitute a ‘fat lady’ when we need it to.


    • Cargill May 4, 2020 at 2:20 pm #

      The bank is not my friend and contrary to their commercials they don’t really give a good God damn about me or my thoughts de jour.

      My partner and I learnt a long time ago that it was far more lucrative to own shares in the bank rather than put money in the bank, so that;s what we did. So all our accounts are fee-free and our credit cards are paid off monthly, with absolutely no cost. Happy days!

      • Robert White May 4, 2020 at 2:39 pm #

        You should have understood that the Western empire of Fractional Reserve Banking was eventually going to end in insolvency & Weimar Republic like hyperinflation. The Federal Reserve can’t reduce their balance sheet since they purchased Wall Street’s subprime C-MBS & R-MBS toxic waste back in 08 post-Lehman debacle.

        Owning shares in the bank might save on monthly fees, but when it crashes via mean reversion & deflation of the global economy the shares will be worthless. More banks have gone tits up since 08 than anyone would like to admit. Tens of thousands of banks have gone bankrupt since 08 across the world.

        Owning shares is not the behaviour of a good hippie IMHO. Be a good Grumpy Marxist and dump the shares, quick.


        • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 1:18 am #

          Owning shares is not the behaviour of a good hippie IMHO. Be a good Grumpy Marxist and dump the shares, quick.

          Our bank shares have served us well – both in share value and income – but I do concede that dividends for the first half of the year (our financial year starts on 1 July) were cut this reporting season (March).

          We have a mix of stuff – shares, term deposits, property, superannuation (401(K) sort of) … we’re not at the top of the food chain, but we snack pretty well.

          Plus we have only four big national banks, and about a dozen smaller ones (usually state-based). We haven’t had one crash since 1991 – and that was mismanagement (or skulduggery) rather than the fundamentals being awry.

          When our big banks fail, cash won’t be worth much … that’s when we get a stack of beans and some ammo and head for that remote patch of land 🙂

          • benr May 5, 2020 at 9:22 am #

            Ammo for what you pussy gave up all you guns remember.

  28. beantownbill. May 4, 2020 at 12:26 pm #

    Jim, IMO the primary issue is existential. Life in America is inherently meaningless, so the populace escapes via excess consumption, entertainment and drugs. That’s very sad because life is really precious, but that has been taken from the citizenry by greedy and mendacious persons. As the runaway train speeds toward the end of the tracks, less and less opportunities to escape reality will become available, and the people will become restless. Then food shortages will begin in earnest, and then …

    • malthuss May 4, 2020 at 4:05 pm #

      Life in America is inherently meaningless, each person has their own perspective.
      Why speak for others? Why speak for 350? million?

      • beantownbill. May 4, 2020 at 6:38 pm #

        Note that I said life in America, not life itself. Why would so many people watch endless hours of mostly worthless tv, drink and drug so much and get hooked on the lottery (which, odd-wise is a scam) and video games, instead of engaging in real activities? Why would people be ignorant about politics and corrupt politicians? Maybe it’s because they’d rather get numbed out. BTW, the US population is currently estimated to be 328 million, not 350. What, you want to take in another 22 million aliens?

        Also, I did like your reply upthread. Today you’re getting philosophical.

  29. Sosodef May 4, 2020 at 12:27 pm #

    A couple years ago, the New York Times and WSJ basically declared the Population Bomb theory was totally discredited because technology, progress….
    Soon, they’ll be admitting the bomb shit went off way faster and more violently than anyone could have imagined…

    • malthuss May 4, 2020 at 12:33 pm #

      8 billion or so.
      How will the planet fare?

      • draupnir May 4, 2020 at 1:22 pm #

        With many fewer people.

        • malthuss May 4, 2020 at 4:05 pm #

          W H E N ?

    • 100th Avatar May 6, 2020 at 1:02 pm #

      Yet people criticize the Gates Foundation for advancing population control agendas through female reproductive rights, access to birth control, and access to abortion in places where it is limited.

      It’s not about depopulating, it’s about lowering going forward.

      Gates wants a legacy with his billions spent, perhaps a world worth living in for his kids, or perhaps a future with less poor over-reproducing a****es ruining what’s left of the planet

  30. Laundromat Blues May 4, 2020 at 12:54 pm #

    Think Trump mishandled the corona virus. Wait till the famine.The guy is absolutely clueless. He orders meat packers back to work, at $15 an hour, risking their lives. Yeah that’s the ticket. He keeps saying closing down China saved the day. Someone should point out to him that New York is on the opposite side of the country and it is the epicenter- of the world pandemic. The problem with Trump is he keeps making decisions.

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    • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 1:10 pm #

      For God’s sake why don’t you give it a rest?

      Your hate Trump rants aren’t changing any minds; when Nov rolls around vote for Biden, if he’s still with us, and lucid.


    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 2:04 pm #

      The immigrants are willing to work and if Americans have any brains, so will they. The strong will live. The weak will die. The dog barks. The caravan passes. The People will eat and live if food is provided. If the food plants close, they will die. You choose death, obviously. Obviously that makes you an enemy.

      • thwack May 4, 2020 at 4:25 pm #

        I had a pine cone for breakfast; is that racist?

  31. Cargill May 4, 2020 at 1:10 pm #

    The US will be fine. But first it needs to round up the commie China agents of the DNC and the Deep State, line them up against the wall and feed them full of lead.

    If you really believe the US is fine and “will be fine”, then you’re quite possibly reading the wrong blog … but your choice.

    And I’m not claiming its all free beer and nude mud-wrestling down here in sunny Australia. Even though we’re in pretty good shape, if China goes belly-up we suffer a dramatic decline in demand for a lot of stuff.

    Fortunately we do produce huge surpluses in food & fibre, so e’ll never go broke, but coal, iron ore, aluminium, manganese, etc, these are our biggies.

    But I digress … my real purpose is to vehemently challenge the idea that the DNC”commies” deserve shooting. It seems to me you’re entirely missing the point … in a genuinely free society, with a good rule of law, and political institutions that people trust, and count on, you need democracy.

    And democracy obviously requires fair rules of the game (honest elections, a free press, unfettered candidates, etc), but mostly it demands a culture where it is expected that over time government changes hands, both sides can win or lose, and that this is a healthy thing.

    What scares me about America, is that despite all the right-wing blather about “freedom” and “liberty”, and getting emotional even just thinking about the Founding Fathers, the right really wants a one-party state, and wants to crush the Democrats – or any resistance – out of existence.

    The more extreme even on this forum equate Democrats / liberals with traitors and “commies” (love that word … it’s just so 1960s). Republicans want to rule for ever, stack the courts, and transfer every last drop of wealth away from workers and the middle class.

    Is that what you really want?

    • JohnAZ May 4, 2020 at 1:32 pm #


      C’mon now. If you think that the Left side has not done exactly the same thing, trying to crate a one party government for the last fifty years, you are not paying attention. Our government is unfortunately changed from working for the people to two parties trying to eliminate the other side. Trump was an exception. He was outside the limits. He was against the entire mess in DC. That is why he has unified both parties against him. That is why the Deep State is both parties. Unless you understand that the situation here is the Deep State against the public, you do not understand. DC against the folks.

      If you do not understand that Trump is trying to tear down the folks he has been battling with during his business years, you do not understand Trump. These power guys and gals battle each other for power, money is just a means to that end, a measure of who is in the lead. Read up on how Newport, RI worked at the end of the Gilded Age. Their social structure was based on the oldest money. It is still the same. Watch the antics of Buffett, Gates, Soros, Rockefeller’s, Rothschilds, the Saudi family, etc. etc. as they contest with each other for power. Trump is a nouveau riche upstart that has decided to take on their structure. They are going to try to crush him and put him and his family in their place.

      D C is just an arena.

    • RB May 4, 2020 at 1:47 pm #

      Australia eh? I wonder if your government along with New Zealand are wondering what they might do in the event that China decides it needs to expand and the “world’s policeman” can’t help because we are in deep shit? I’m not attacking your country. Love the Aussies and Kiwis from my Vietnam days but when it becomes evident that we cannot take care of business, who you gonna call?

      I had thought we’d lose an aircraft carrier in the Hormuz Straits. I never thought a virus would sink the damn fleet by killing our economy and right now making ship crews sick. You see, our defense budget is a sham and our leftist brethren are going to gut it.

      Just curious how Australians view their future with China nearby relatively speaking.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 2:26 pm #

        Australia chose Death several decades ago when they starting calling themselves “an Asian nation” and ditched the White Australia Policy. It was a coup, one that succeeded, managed brilliantly by the usual suspects, the nation wreckers and their lapdog media.

        • malthuss May 4, 2020 at 4:07 pm #

          1974 Whites Only Policy revoked.

  32. stelmosfire May 4, 2020 at 1:19 pm #

    Please don’t hug a firefighter today.
    bake some cookies and bring them to the firehouse instead.

    • GreenAlba May 4, 2020 at 2:25 pm #

      Hugging a firefighter is a display of manly refusal to submit to the persecution of free Americans and a stand against the outrage of social distancing measures. It is the gesture of heroes. To heroes.

      But happy firefighters’ day and I hope they get cookies as well as manly freedom hugs. 🙂

      • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 2:29 pm #

        Yes, throw away your Hijab. Embrace uncertainty, the uncertainty of Life. God bless the Southern Soldier!

        Else soon they’ll be cameras inside our homes seeing if we are wearing our masks. And infrared drones overhead seeing if anyone’s temperature is elevated and if they need a visit from the medical block watcher so that children can be removed if necessary.

        • GreenAlba May 4, 2020 at 3:07 pm #

          Yes dear.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 3:50 pm #


            This is so glorious that I am struck dumb. I have nothing to add to it. Great series. I was looking for Ron’s monologue on Socialism while sitting on a park bench in London, but this will have to do.

  33. Collin27 May 4, 2020 at 1:25 pm #

    All of the instruments you cite in your fourth paragraph are instruments of the Federal Reserve institution.

    Remember when Janet Yellen was on the record in the Summer of 2017 saying that we “wouldn’t have another financial crisis in our lifetime.”

    Where is the outrage now at that quote?

  34. BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 2:05 pm #

    Phew, down in Manhattan, NYPD cracking heads of miscreants they catch not sufficiently ‘social distancing’. DeBlassio is serious about this, that’s the word.


    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 2:31 pm #

      One kid pushed a park ranger into the pool. Now his life is over with beore it ere begun….

    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 2:39 pm #

      We’ll push your mercenary horde
      Beyond our Southern Border,
      Beyond our Southern Border,
      God bless the Southern Soldier!


      • PeteAtomic May 4, 2020 at 2:59 pm #


    • thwack May 4, 2020 at 4:20 pm #

      “Phew, down in Manhattan, NYPD cracking heads of miscreants”


      what color were the miscreants?

      (Im asking for a friend)

      • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 5:19 pm #

        Thwack, both the police officers and civilians appear to be African American.

        • CancelMyCard May 4, 2020 at 8:12 pm #

          Well, if that is indeed the case,

          I’d like to see the outcome of the investigation.

  35. My Point of View May 4, 2020 at 2:37 pm #

    “…the convergent crises of corona virus and the foundering economic system that it infected, with all its frightful pre-existing conditions. Of course, it isn’t capitalism, so-called, that is failing, but the perversions of capitalism…”

    Thank you Jim, today’s column is so very spot-on. One perversion Jim didn’t mention was Wall Street’s most glorious form of thievery — the Leveraged Buyout (LBO). In this cherished technique, LBOs incur massive debt to buy a company, the assets are thoroughly stripped nude, the smoking debt-bloated carcass left for dead in the economic gutter and the fired grunts do a uniquely American economic Bataan Death March into the unemployment office to beg mercy. Billionaires on Long Island are laughing their asses off all the way to Davos.

    Almost as soon as the pandemic shutdown appeared the poster child for conspicuous consumption, Neiman Marus, filed for bankruptcy, woefully unable to defuse its LBO debt bomb. It was a cinch to happen, all they needed was a catalyst to trigger the filing and the pandemic gives them every politician’s favorite cover aka plausible deniability — the pandemic made me do it. Today they are followed to the corporate Forest Lawn Memorial Park by J. Crew. More will follow. The shutdowns give these pirates the perfect excuse to waltz away from their debts like Trump running from a casino.

    But wait. There’s more fun gearing up. Lockdowns and hiding at home is burdening the mental health system which was on the ropes before the pandemic. People are going more than a little stir crazy inside the walls of their American Dream as the agony of missed mortgage payments conjures up images of wheeling away their belongings in grocery carts to live at the Salvation Army shelter.

    Will we survive? We always do. But many tens of thousands more will die, and those who survive will emerge morose sad sacks with shattered hopes and the grim outlook of those who made it through the 1930s. I know those people. They were my parents.

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    • CancelMyCard May 4, 2020 at 8:15 pm #

      Well done.

  36. gustafson.robert.22 May 4, 2020 at 2:42 pm #

    found some old money in my couch

    • CancelMyCard May 4, 2020 at 8:16 pm #

      How old?

      Real silver?

  37. Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 2:48 pm #

    The Hill

    Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D) said protests inside the state Capitol last week, featuring demonstrators with assault weapons, swastikas and Confederate flags, depicted some of the “worst racism and awful parts” of the nation’s history.

    “Some of the outrageousness of what happened at our Capitol depicted some of the worst racism and awful parts of our history in this country,” she said Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

    “The behavior you’ve seen in all of the clips is not representative of who we are in Michigan,” she added.

    Whitmer on Sunday doubled down on her defense of the stay-at-home order and suggested she won’t be swayed by political pressure to lift restrictions.

    “The fact of the matter is we are in the global pandemic. This is not something we negotiate ourselves out of and is a political matter. This is a public health crisis that has taken the lives of almost 70,000 Americans,” she said.

    “Whether you agree with me or not, I’m working to protect your life if you live in the state of Michigan,” Whitmer added.

    JS: This is what the South was fighting against. Michigan is a conquered land, ruled by a Black city and guilt ridden White Liberals that elected a Karen of a Governor. She forbids the People the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. What else are they supposed to do – beyond waiting to die? They came see her with guns. What’s the next logical step?

    • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 3:38 pm #

      It’s odd, when Antifa and Blackblock march with the hammer and sickle flag nobody seems to have much of a problem with it.

      • CancelMyCard May 4, 2020 at 8:19 pm #

        What a brilliant image!

        Antifa and BlackRock marching in solidarity for the Proletariat,

        now that’s the ticket!!

        • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 8:41 pm #

          Good one CmC

          Black Blok, Blackrock … what’s the diff?

          Thugs in suits raking it off the top, thugs in the street throwing bricks thru bank windows, it’s all the same.


          • CancelMyCard May 4, 2020 at 10:17 pm #


            There are thugs at every single strata of humankind.

            From the individual family,
            to the extended family,
            to the local neighborhood,
            to the community,
            to the town,
            to the city,
            to the state,
            to the country.

            Each layer with its own thugs, each extracting their pound of flesh.

            I’d say we are all over-thuggified.

    • tucsonspur May 4, 2020 at 5:11 pm #

      One possibility is to arrest them or to respond in kind with a show of weapons. Order must be preserved. Chaos will only make things worse. Are you going out to join the protesting crowds and not wearing a mask? Yeah, right.

      I have a lot more sympathy for the four students shot dead at Kent State fifty years ago today, than I would for these people if they met the same fate.

      Seeing the emptiness of their own lives and what this country has become, as Jim so well points out above, may be more behind their actions than the shutdown, the shutdown giving them a chance to vent. That’s understandable.

      • CancelMyCard May 4, 2020 at 8:20 pm #

        Good point.

  38. wpa_ccc May 4, 2020 at 3:01 pm #

    The beauty of springtime is sublime and, as Edmund Burke noted, that very beauty provokes our thoughts of pain and terror. –JHK

    For Burke the idea of the sublime involved the idea of a God who is both active and terrible. On the other hand, Beauty, for Burke, originated in pleasure. Sublime and Beautiful have very different origins.

    Burke’s thinking was that solitude is a source of pain (cf. Aristotle). And for Burke the idea of pain involved an idea of a God who inspired terror. To quote Abraham Joshua Heschel: God is not nice. God is not an uncle. God is an earthquake.

    Burke, in his Vindication of Natural Society, depicts an alternative model of society: one without civil government, without church, and without private property. Surprising that you quote Burke.

    As you so eloquently state: All this sounds like metaphysical bullshit, I suppose…

    Yes, which is why I was surprised you quoted Burke.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 3:19 pm #

      You are slandering Burke. He believe strongly in Government, Church, and Private Property. He hated the French Revolution and was in despair once the other European Nations accepted it. He thought the Revolutionaries to be vermin who needed to be stamped out without mercy.

      April is the cruelest month as T.S Elliot said. Everything is coming to life but we are not. Or because it just reinforces our knowledge of brevity and mortality. The flowers mock us because they are not eternal flowers, the ones above of which these are only a reflection. Thus we must block the pleasure to avoid the pain of death that is so obvious to the thinking mind. Real human beings could never have been stampeded as we are being stampeded by the Elite. We fear to live and think, so we can be.

      • tucsonspur May 4, 2020 at 5:28 pm #

        Elliot composing the poetic contradiction. April is also a beautiful month. And even though many are dying, we are more alive now than we have been for quite some time. More alive by recognizing the reality of what we are, our way of life, and how it’s failing us.

        ‘We fear to live and think’? I know that you are ‘living’, but you admit that you’re not thinking? Not me.

  39. Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 3:20 pm #


    Glenn is always strong about environmental tyranny. He’s been great throughout this whole thing – even as I wavered back and forth. He is redeeming himself after two decades of foolishness that commenced with him passing out teddy bears to little illegal alien kids.

    • malthuss May 4, 2020 at 4:11 pm #

      link goes to ‘bummer’

  40. thwack May 4, 2020 at 4:35 pm #

    Janos Skorenzy
    May 4, 2020 at 1:51 pm #
    And the killer hornets are here. Not only do they wipe out bee colonies, they can kill people. Their stingers can penetrate a bee keeper suit.

    Can they beat the AFRICANIZED “killer bees?

    We should do a “lets you and him fight” routine?

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    • beantownbill. May 4, 2020 at 6:47 pm #

      We could start bee fights like they do dog fights.

      “In this corner is the killer bee, and in the other corner, is the killer hornet. Place your bets.”

      I’m tellin’ ya we could make a fortune.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 8:18 pm #

      Cross a Black and a European and you get a “killah”. Thwack, let me write your life’s story. I will make you famous and become a famous writer at the same time. We will be the Salt and Pepper team for the 20 teens, the last decade before WW3. We might as well make the most of it.

      Blacks will serve in supply in the next War just as they like to do. White Women will be in special forces and submarines. East African Blacks will be in the navy and with a mostly Muslim infantry. East Asian and White Female pilots. Only the Marines will remain mostly Cracker White.

      • CancelMyCard May 4, 2020 at 10:24 pm #

        And exactly where will you be,

        Oberstleutnant Skorzeny?

  41. akmofo May 4, 2020 at 4:38 pm #

    Chinese killer hornets found in US and Canada. The hornets are killing the local bees wherever they meet them. Good luck with the food supply without bees to do the pollinatIon.

    • akmofo May 4, 2020 at 4:47 pm #

      “Asian giant hornets, or Vespa mandarinia, are basically the pirates of the insect world. A handful of hornets will show up at a honeybee hive and go into “slaughter mode,” killing tens of thousands of bees before stealing their young and carrying them back to the hornet nest for food, leaving a pile of headless corpses in their wake.“

      • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 5:16 pm #

        Those Hornets are the size of hummingbirds, with stingers 1/4″ long. Yikes!

        • CancelMyCard May 4, 2020 at 10:26 pm #

          They respond well to guidance from a flamethrower.

        • stelmosfire May 4, 2020 at 10:30 pm #

          Another deadly curse from China. I caught one of the sombitch’s in my yard today!

        • Laundromat Blues May 5, 2020 at 6:50 am #

          Jeez! That’s nearly as long as your Johnson.

          • benr May 5, 2020 at 9:31 am #

            Meat gazer.

  42. Nightowl May 4, 2020 at 4:59 pm #

    Look at these authoritarian freaks:

    Whte House Correspondents Association denying networks access to WH briefing room based politics. Moral issues aside, they have no legal right to do so, either.


    It just never ends with these weaklings.

    • Cargill May 4, 2020 at 5:27 pm #

      It’s hard to take the fruitloop OANN seriously as a media organisation … but I agree with the sentiment. Even if the WHCA finds them execrable (quite understandable) they have very shaky grounds on which to ban them.

      The over-riding principle should be that government is as open as possible – the WHCA would scream if CNN were banned (again). But anyway, just another example of who effing stupid and manipulative DC is … juist hold the briefings in a much bigger room, so reporters can be essentially unlimited, while still maintaining social-distancing rules.

      (Caveat: if OANN is guilty of contravening social-distance rules to make a point as viro-sceptics, then that is grounds to be kicked out).

      • Nightowl May 4, 2020 at 5:43 pm #

        You are such a fraud. Trying hard to pepper your statements with agreeable points, while still pushing the MMFA talking points.

        It is a wonder you are allowed here.


        • Cargill May 4, 2020 at 6:01 pm #

          I don’t even know what MMFA means … LOL yourself!

          I believe in open government and a free press … you right-wing types only believe in the brutal exercise of power and pleasing your masters and donors. Part of that is the lionising of state propaganda machines – Fox and OANN. We all understand that.

          Roll on 3 November!

          • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 6:33 pm #

            Nov 3?

            By that time Biden will be wearing a diaper, they’ll be spoon feeding him mush from a bowl, and his hands will be bound so he can’t paw at his female attendants

            Time for you Dems to pull your head out of your ass and look see what kind of candidate you are putting up. It’s almost like you want to lose.

            Roll on November 3. What a joke!

            Are you registered to vote, Cargill?


          • Cargill May 4, 2020 at 8:34 pm #

            Are you registered to vote, Cargill?

            Indeed I am.

            Senate Electorate: State of Victoria
            Federal Electorate: Maribyrnong
            State Electorate: Niddrie
            Municipal Electorate: Moonee Valley City

            Anything else you want to know? Hat size? Golf handicap? LOL!

          • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 8:44 pm #

            Yeah, where’s Woop Woop?

          • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 8:47 pm #

            Also, you keep repeating “roll on 3 Nov.”

            Are your elections on 3 Nov too?


          • draupnir May 4, 2020 at 9:24 pm #

            Joe Biden, what a sleazy mutt,
            Inserted fingers while in rut.
            “What’s the problem?” he said.
            “Smell my fingers,” he pled.
            “They didn’t go up in her butt.”

          • Cargill May 4, 2020 at 9:48 pm #

            Yeah, where’s Woop Woop?

            Just down the highway from Podunk Indiana.

          • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 10:54 pm #

            Oh yes, there’s Podunk again, where the ignorant MAGA racists live, the one’s you’re here to set straight.

          • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 4:01 am #

            There is that binary again.

            I am not right wing. But you are a paid shill.


      • benr May 5, 2020 at 9:32 am #

        Far better news outlet than CNN, ABC, MSNBC or their ilk.

  43. Cargill May 4, 2020 at 5:09 pm #

    Just curious how Australians view their future with China nearby relatively speaking. [RB].

    A good question, and I suggest it’s overwhelmingly positive. The Chinese one-party dictatorship is overlooked … as it basically is by every government in the world … they are too important to piss off too much. And their economic progress in a generation has no doubt been impressive.

    Some statistics:

    In 2017-18, China was by far Australia’s largest trading partner, contributing $194.6 billion worth of imports and exports. This was more than the combined value of trade with Japan and the United States ($147.8 billion).

    Australia is China’s sixth largest trading partner; it is China’s fifth biggest supplier of imports and its tenth biggest customer for exports. Twenty-five per cent of Australia’s manufactured imports come from China; 13% of its exports are thermal coal to China. A two-way investment relationship is also developing.

    Pre-pandemic we had large numbers of Chinese tourists, and also large numbers of tertiary students … education for Asia is a big export industry here. NZ is similar. Chinese make up about 5% of the total Oz population, and about 40% were born overseas.

    Australia and NZ are not that attractive as takeover targets, and I don’t think we’re too concern on that front. Anyway, they do it softly, with wealthy Chinese buying real estate in both Australian and NZ cities.

    • RB May 4, 2020 at 10:16 pm #

      Thank you for the information. I was not aware at how dependent on China Australia is. It appears that they already “own” you from a distance but were it in their interest to own you physically they could do it easily enough just as with Taiwan. I think the citizens of Hong Kong understand things about mainland China that others do not. I had hopes that this Covid business would be a wake up for American manufacturing and production but if the democrats take power next January, I suspect the Chinese will benefit and American interests will be back to pre Trump days. With GOP collusion. This is the Chinese century. It may be the Chinese 1000 year era.

      • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 2:20 am #

        Thank you for the information. I was not aware at how dependent on China Australia is.

        They certainly are a big slice of our export market, but perhaps “dependent” is a bit too strong. Prior to them our major market was Japan, and of course South Korea. India is well in the mix too … they love our hot thermal coal for power stations.

        We have a FIRB (Foreign Investment Review Board) – if anyone from China, Japan, Singapore, etc, wants to buy something substantial – a major company, anything strategic, a major building, land bigger than a few acres, etc, they have to seek permission.

        Mostly it is granted … but I think you’d find that the UK and the US probably have a LOT more investment here than the Chinese … Chevron and Conoco-Phillips, BP, and so on.

        There was a minor ruckus when the Chinese were allowed to buy the port of Darwin … which did seem surprising, given its strategic military role. Would be like the US selling off Long Beach or San Diego.

        But overall, the China relationship is a pretty good one – we supply minerals and food they want, and we buy back flatscreen TVs and much else. We aren’t a competing superpower.

  44. tucsonspur May 4, 2020 at 5:47 pm #

    ‘Of course, it isn’t capitalism, so-called, that is failing, but the perversions of capitalism….’ JHK

    Clear and concise, and absolutely true, meat and potatoes, with the gravy coming later.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 6:50 pm #

      Communism didn’t fail, it wasn’t tried.
      Capitalism didn’t fail, it wasn’t tried either!

      Ok, that’s a bit extreme. Communism doesn’t accord with Nature at all. Capitalism accords very well with our lowest nature, that of the jungle. Well, the jungle needs to be cleared and cultivated. Capitalism needs constant oversight lest it turn into the current nightmare. Thus Fascism or National Socialism are prescribed.

      • tucsonspur May 4, 2020 at 7:23 pm #

        I wonder about how that jungle is cleared. What about the lowest nature of the leaders? Is it removed? Could you even question those in power? I like the idea of NS, but wonder about its implementation.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 7:32 pm #

          Have some faith. We will have Boars in Suits of Armor. And Elephants in our Parades. We will be the Mahrajahs. White Guys will get affirmative action to get into the NBA. White youth will be encouraged to join social athletic clubs where they learn martial arts and study Stoicism. For older people, there will be a return to Victorian Finery, with Grand Balls. Even poor people will have enough money to dress better. And we’ll bring back the old community dances for neighborhoods.

          Finally getting around to Thoreau’s “Letters to a Spiritual Seeker”. It does not disappoint. Same kind of personal type writing that made Walden a classic .

          • tucsonspur May 5, 2020 at 4:44 am #

            I read somewhere that if you think Walden Pond is transcendental, go to the woods of Northern Maine. Sorry to say I never made the trip to the Penobscot River area where Thoreau paddled in the 1850s. I wonder if you can still follow his route. I’ll give “Letters” a try. Right now I’m finishing “Blue Moon” by Lee Child, you know, big, bad, Jack Reacher. Keeps me balanced.

  45. wpa_ccc May 4, 2020 at 6:07 pm #

    You are slandering Burke. –Janos

    If I wanted to slander Burke, I would simply describe who he was: a graduate of Trinity who became a minor bureaucrat, a secretary to a secretary, a kind of Irish Jesuit-like pundit, a minor dishonest Whig politician.

    But Burke did recognize the dignity and humanity of Black Africans. And Burke did support the American revolutionaries and opposed the Tax Act. Perhaps it is best to let Burke speak for himself:

    “Again and again, revert to your old principles—seek peace and ensue it; leave America, if she has taxable matter in her, to tax herself.” –from a speech Burke made, “On American Taxation” (published in January 1775), on a motion to repeal the tea duty

    With regard to your claim about Burke believing in “Government, Church, and Private Property,” anarchists from William Godwin and the followers of Josiah Warren to Murray Rothbard have found Burke’s case for anarchism (A Vindication of Natural Society) inspiring and persuasive; and Rothbard, at least, was convinced that Burke’s arguments were simply too good to have been intended satirically. On Rothbard’s interpretation, the Vindication represents the youthful Burke’s sincere opinions, and was subsequently presented as satire only for the sake of Burke’s political ambitions. After all, Burke was a dishonest politician, according to the eminent Samuel Johnson.

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    • tucsonspur May 4, 2020 at 6:46 pm #

      So Burke wouldn’t wear a mask?

  46. tucsonspur May 4, 2020 at 6:08 pm #

    Read about ‘collective rage’, ‘it’s going to go in waves’, etc.


    Things will get much worse, and if we see things like hurricanes or some foreign intervention with the electrical grid, e.g., or maybe worse, it’s all comin’ down, big time.

    • beantownbill. May 4, 2020 at 6:54 pm #

      Yeah, and don’t forget about those giant asteroids that are whizzing by Earth. I haven’t slept well for months worrying about the big smasheroo.
      What if it hits the Yellowstone caldera or Santorini?

      • tucsonspur May 4, 2020 at 7:03 pm #

        I look for them every night with my ‘scope, so don’t worry, you won’t need pills. Probably kill the few remaining buffalo.

  47. elysianfield May 4, 2020 at 6:45 pm #

    Ladies and germs;

    Well, at last, I have come to the conclusion that we are fucked…truly fucked and fucked well. It is not the issues of the economy. It is not our faltering infrastructure. It is not the Virus. No, we will become undone due to…MURDER HORNETS!

    This is some Old Testament shit. These bastards are up to 2″ long, described as big as a matchbox, can repeatedly sting and kill a human…Oh, yes, and several dozen can destroy a thriving honey bee hive in hours.

    They have established themselves in Washington State, probably from Chinese container vessels. They nest in the ground. Their hostility is only matched by the excruciating pain of their sting. When these puppies become established, you will forget about China’s perfidy in the CV-19 escapades…you’ll wish for the good old days when you only had killer bees to worry about.

    It has been suggested that the MURDER HORNETS kill more Japanese every year than died at Pearl Harbor.

    • elysianfield May 4, 2020 at 6:46 pm #

      And…the link;


    • tucsonspur May 4, 2020 at 7:00 pm #

      We should cultivate millions and millions, turn them on the Chinee.
      More than 50-60? That’s enough. “Oh death, where is thy sting.”
      They found out-too late.

      • BackRowHeckler May 4, 2020 at 8:01 pm #


        I think they come from China, originally.

        • elysianfield May 4, 2020 at 11:40 pm #

          Yes, China. Now in Washington State, where it is well known where all manner of pestilential issues arise;

          Murder Hornets,

          • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 12:22 am #

            Coincidence? Or another Chinese bio-weapon? In other words, why now?

            We’ve got to stop them! The hornets that is.

          • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 2:34 am #

            Nirvana’s Kurt Cobain was born in Aberdeen, WA.

            We’ve been to Aberdeen … had lunch at a little-league ballpark and talked to some very bored teenagers. I can see why Our Kurt topped himself.

          • K-Dog May 5, 2020 at 7:43 pm #


    • stelmosfire May 4, 2020 at 11:08 pm #

      Kicks the shit out of a mantis and that’s sayin’ something. at about 1:20

      • GreenAlba May 5, 2020 at 9:41 am #

        Blimey, that’s impressive. I wonder why they’re calling them ‘murder hornets’ rather than ‘killer hornets’, though. It suggests some kind of moral intent and it’s a bug.

  48. Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 7:26 pm #

    We Have Become Karen Nation, by Tom Luongo

    A week ago, I didn’t know what a ‘Karen’ was. Today I can’t stop seeing Karens everywhere I look. It’s like that moment in They Live! when Nada puts on the glasses for the first time.

    The problem now is I can’t take the glasses off.

    And I’m not the only one. In recent weeks the failed Karen meme of a few years ago has returned with a vengeance as people realize just how much damage Karens have done to our society.

    A Karen is a person, usually a woman, who is never satisfied with the service she’s receiving and demands to talk to the manager. It doesn’t matter if Karen’s complaints are valid or not.

    This is because Karen has been incentivized by cowardly corporate officers and government officials (but, I repeat myself) to get something she doesn’t deserve simply because they want her to shut up and not disturb everyone else.

    It was one thing to indulge Karen her entitled behavior when she was getting a free order of fries or month of cable. It’s quite another when Karens become the State’s target audience for public policy.

    And the true Karens are the ones who are never satisfied. When they get the first thing they want it gives them the impetus to continually push the boundaries of what they can get away with.

    Karens, at heart, are simply spoiled children who have never had boundaries properly set. A little power creates a self-reinforcing feedback loop.

    Progressives are the ultimate Karens, never satisfied with having moved society in a terrible direction through their constant complaining. Never once do they self-reflect that maybe they’ve been wrong and all of their demands have made things materially worse rather than us not having indulged them enough.

    Progressives are the worst winners I’ve ever met. They’ve won every political battle of note for the past 100+ years and are still whining in their lattes about us electing Trump, whose presidency they’ve destroyed with their incessant Karen-isms and his inherent weakness.

    So is is any surprise that we’ve reached a point where the government is more worried about keeping the Karens from complaining than actually governing effectively?

    And when we really look at how we’ve responded to COVID-19 it’s clear that the people behind the lock down of hundreds of millions of people knew they would have an army of Karens screaming on Twitter to ‘flatten the curve’ and quote bogus statistics they don’t understand from official smart people to justify giving full flower to their inner harpy.

    You know who I’m talking about. These are the suburban women ratting out their neighbors for not social distancing, for *gasp* walking their dog or *gasp gasp* letting their kids play in the yard!

    And that has enabled the worst people in the world to destroy the global economy because a bunch of frightened Karens can’t cope with the stress of living. The State cannot have people engaging in peaceful noncompliance with their edicts.

    Karen-ness is a mental disorder. It’s the horrific admixture of narcissism, self-importance and solipsism which can only come from being encouraged to act badly thanks to cowardice. It leads to treating everyone else like they exist only to serve them.

    Karens used to be a joke at best. They used to be Veruka Salt in Willy Wonka or the starting point of a female lead in a rom-com.

    Now they run the world.

    Karens are proto-Brown Shirts. They are the ultimate useful idiots of the Elite and they are destroying the world we live in. Because they are happiest when the State does something. They have no boundaries at home, so they welcome any time the State gives them what they want and then use that to bludgeon everyone else into line.

    And the worst part is in this new age of gender fluidity, Karens are now found in both sexes. As guys who should know better join in the chorus of complaining about everything they don’t like.

    It’s the worst in genre fandom, FYI. All you Cheeto-dusted message board warriors sitting on your gaming thrones bitching about Star Wars or Marvel are simply Karens with doobs (Dude Boobs) because you feel entitled a particular story to fill your pathetic lives with meaning.

    And then when you don’t get them you want someone fired.

    Sound familiar?

    In truth, if you were real men you’d grow up and spend that time acquiring skills to become a man worthy of allaying the fears of all the Karens you say are destroying your favorite stories.

    Who knows? You might even get laid!? Just sayin’

    But it means looking in the mirror rather than at porn. So I guess that’s a non-starter.

    At the heart of this is cultural Marxism and its unquenchable envy for what the other guy has. And the Marxists have worked long and hard to undermine the institutions of culture — family, religion, community — by deconstructing everything, destroying meaning and robbing a generation of hope.

    And if you don’t think it wasn’t done on purpose you’re wrong. The goal has always been to break us down into dependence and psychosis. This is what John Carpenter was warning us about in They Live!

    The difference is we aren’t asleep. This isn’t The Matrix anymore. We jacked out of that nightmare to find a world even worse than we thought and now we’re crazy from being sleep deprived.

    So now we’re a nation of noradrenaline-addicted, cortizol-drenched doom porn addicts as we realize there’s no one competent in charge and our neighbors are a bunch of whiny Karens.

    The world is melting down financially, politically and culturally.

    We’ve run out of time to suffer Karens. We don’t need anymore Nancy Pelosis and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortezes extolling the virtue of Karen’s endless complaints.

    Things are this way because men have abdicated their role in the division of labor that is sexual dimorphism as the check on poor female behavior. It’s our job to exude quiet competence, bear the burdens of keeping the society from collapsing.

    So, what we actually need is Ceasar Milan to come in and tell them all, “Shh!”

    Because when we don’t do that, Karens turn to the State, exactly as the Marxists wanted.

    This has given rise to the kind of toxic femininity that is fully encapsulated in the Meme of Karen.

    And it’s why the Karens are screaming such bloody murder with the return of the meme. They know it’s true and that the jig is up.

    And the irony is that what most Karens really need is someone calling them out for being Karens and not indulging their anxiety-driven insanity.


    This is why the Karen meme has returned with such ferocity. The lock down of society in fear of COVID-19, a virus the more we learn about the less fearful we are, has a critical mass of people reaching their breaking point with being a member of Karen Nation.

    Because to continue on this path leads to depravity and violence; a breakdown of the basics of civil society.

    And to leave it is to end the rule of incompetent, cowardly men like Bill DeBlasio, Barack Obama and George W. Bush and the women who rule them.


    JS: How was Governor Cunt of Michigan elected? She was elected by the people the article describes. She’s a Karen, elected by her fellow Karen Tribesmen, both male and female. Thine own from thine own! Kathy and Susan are other names for Karen. Not Becky – that’s a racist word for young White women, often innocent. A Leftist and/or minority word, a pejorative. Karen is our word not theirs! And it’s not racist – since Karens are mostly White.

    No disrespect is meant to the Karen Tribesmen of Burma. I hear they’re nice and ferocious. Don’t know if they’re cannibals. I’m sure they have their share of problems though.

    • Ricechex May 7, 2020 at 1:49 am #

      Wow Janos…that is EXACTLY who they are. I have always pondered that, they are usually romping and stomping around with entitlements and so forth, but this defines them quite well. Nauseating at best. There are many on Next Door…..they are the mask police, dog poop complainers, me, me, me and more me.

  49. wpa_ccc May 4, 2020 at 7:57 pm #

    So Burke wouldn’t wear a mask? –Tucsonspur

    Burke is not a “mask truther.” Wearing a mask is not a symbol of social control, it is a public health measure for the benefit of all. Burke, who received a Quaker education, would say this of people who threaten violence in stores over wearing a mask:

    Idiots. Selfish idiots. They are given the opportunity to ease back into normal life, by shopping, but they’re not going to do the minimum necessary to help the community be safer. So now business owners and other shoppers are going to be more at risk from the virus, because Rights. Man, that ticks me off. Selfish creeps.

    That is what Burke would say, because wearing a mask is not in contradiction with conservative, libertarian, or anarchist principles of mutual respect. Mutualism, mutual aid, is a tenet of anarchism. Totalitarian ideology makes compromise impossible and endangers the community. It is disrespectful not to wear a mask.

    Letting people go out and shop and open businesses and do work while wearing masks seems like a commonsense compromise to me on the way to returning to something like normal (which we’re not going to have anyway until there’s a vaccine, or we have herd immunity, the latter of which is at least two years away).

    Opposing wearing masks on ideological principle is what an ideologue like Rush Limbaugh is encouraging. When there is a threat (3,611,044 confirmed cases), you protect yourself and others. It’s the conservative thing to do.

    If it doesn’t work, well, we can try something new. But for these right-wing ideologues, it’s their way or the highway. Are they not going to be satisfied until people in rural America start dying of Covid-19? It’s crazy.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 8:29 pm #

      General Bedford Forest dissolved his Klan, saying that masked men were not accountable to civil society. Making men dress as criminals will encourage criminality, at least one would hope.

    • GreenAlba May 4, 2020 at 8:42 pm #

      “It is disrespectful not to wear a mask.”

      Freedom is primarily about ‘me’. Consideration is about ‘you’. Possibly there is too much ‘me’ in American life these days. Freedom and consideration should be able to co-exist together. That way people wouldn’t need to be told to wear a mask where wearing a mask is appropriate – they’d just be considerate.

      I had to go to the chemist this morning. The staff in there have been wearing masks for weeks, since they’re particularly at risk and because it wouldn’t be helpful to the great unwell if the shop had to close because they were all off sick at once and there was a shortage of locums. So I wore one too, out of consideration for the pharmacists.

      There was only one other customer when I went in and he was a Covid customer. He was breathing with difficulty and explaining to the pharmacist that he was finding it hard to come in to collect his medication. Even though he’d been discharged from hospital he couldn’t sleep because when he lay down he felt as if something was sitting on his lungs. He’d had blood clots in his spleen and some other organs I don’t recall. (There wasn’t any privacy – it’s a small shop!) He looked about 35-40.

      Anyway, I guess if he was post-infectious (which I rather hope he was) he was wearing a mask so that he wouldn’t freak people out when they heard his laboured breathing. That’s considerate.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 8:47 pm #

        So we should always wear masks from now on? How did we ever get by before? Or do you even remember that we didn’t used to wear masks? If so, the previous two questions won’t compute.

      • GreenAlba May 4, 2020 at 8:58 pm #

        I’m not suggesting you do anything, Janos. You’ve got a brain and a conscience, and somewhere in there there’s probably some consideration for other people, even the ones you look down on. And your brain knows that wearing a mask isn’t the same as wearing handcuffs and a blindfold – on the scale of human misery it’s really not that big a deal.

        No, I haven’t worn a mask before. But I’ve been around for the best part of 70 years, only had three flu ‘shots’, as you guys call them, yet only had flu once in all those years. So this one’s different, and that guy did not sound well. And he was a heck of a lot younger than me. So you can make your own decisions about whether or not you’re capable of putting consideration of other people before your selfish obsessions or not, because you’re an adult and not some kid I’m responsible for.

        I’m wearing one till there’s a vaccine or until the numbers dwindle so much I’m hardly likely to get it. And if I get it and recover I’ll wear one in shops to reassure other people. I’m not planning to wear one ‘from now on’ – that’s just another of your straw men.

        I’m only wearing the thing in shops – why is that such a big deal to a big boy like you?

        • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 9:12 pm #

          This one is not different – but it’s being made into something very, very “different”. They’re never going to let us go back to normal. How can you not realize it – they themselves are saying it.

          Or are you one of those who don’t mind being tracked since you haven’t done anything wrong? A classic Karen stance.

          • CancelMyCard May 4, 2020 at 10:39 pm #

            Sounds to me like she’s adapting to the new normal,

            and you Janos,

            are not,
            will not,
            can not.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 11:22 pm #

            Wow, she really fought long and hard for her rights and her heritage, didn’t she? Just like you, Kareno.

          • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 4:03 am #

            Now, now Cancel.

            The propaganda anchor word for us peons is the “Next Normal”.

            Keep that in mind.

          • GreenAlba May 5, 2020 at 7:11 am #


            I’m not being tracked. Nor am I going to be tracked. I’m simply wearing a mask in shops. That means, since I put it on for convenience as I leave the house, I’ve got it on for less than half an hour out of 24.

            But now we’ve got mission creep and you’re expanding what I said to ‘being tracked’. You queried masks and I gave you my answer about masks.

            And, as I mentioned, our situation is different from yours, so what you do is your own decision. We were short of 40,000 nurses before this even started. Currently many nurses who used to work as theatre nurses are working as critical care nurses in a specialty of which they had no previous experience – and a level of stress and dying patients of which they had no previous experience – expect a lot of PTSD when this is over among health professionals. But you probably won’t hear about it.

            And, as I mentioned, my lovely ‘little’ brother is still unconscious in an English ICU right now, having had a heart attack, despite strenuous efforts to convince me people aren’t being treated in hospitals if they don’t have Covid. Compared to that, I find people wittering about their right not to wear a mask in shops quite surreal. And I’m glad he had his heart attack now and not when the hospital might have been – or might be post-lockdown – filled with five times as many Covid patients because the thing was ‘let rip’.

            I have a lot of sympathy with the Swedish stance – what the Giesecke chap said made sense. But it wouldn’t work everywhere, and I doubt it would have worked with our health system, which operates with much less spare capacity than yours. And I have sympathy with people who can’t work – I was talking to a woman this morning who used to do cleaning for some residents in the old folks’ home across the road and she’s not allowed in just now to protect them. She and her husband really need the money. But sympathy with people who think wearing a face mask to help keep the transmission rate manageable is an insult to their personal liberty? Nah, that would be pushing it.

          • GreenAlba May 5, 2020 at 7:17 am #

            Should have said ‘old folks’ flats’ as they’re individual bought flats for elderly people – if it had been a ‘home’ the old folks wouldn’t be responsible for their own cleaning.

          • GreenAlba May 5, 2020 at 7:41 am #

            “Wow, she really fought long and hard for her rights and her heritage”

            I don’t have an ID card. I don’t carry any ID anywhere I go, except for my bus pass when I need it, which has a function. Even when I had a car I didn’t have to carry a permit with me – you get three days here to present it at any police station if you’re stopped for a traffic infringement or something similar.

            They talked about introducing ID cards back when I was a student, and it didn’t fly because people thought it was an impertinence. So did I. Now of course rightwingers like the idea because they think there are illegal immigrants behind every lamppost. My daughter used to carry her passport to pubs because she looked younger than her age – but nobody made her.

            And the app they’re talking about here is (a) entirely voluntary and (b) has no personal information of any kind on it other than your postcode. It’s not like the S. Korean one. And I share my postcode with something like 150 other households and almost twice as many individuals. Not that I plan to get the app anyway – I have never had Bluetooth switched on on my phone and don’t intend to start now. I have the simpler alternative of not getting on buses and trains, which other people won’t have. But even for them it will be voluntary, so I’ll leave them to make their own decisions.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 12:58 pm #

            Alba: They boil the frog slowly. You’re not being tracked – yet, maybe. But if you let them put a dye under your skin, it will become mandatory – and those without it will not be able to work (sell). Without the chip that comes after that, you will set off alarms when you try to go into public buildings to “buy”.

            You’ve been boiled slowly. Your Grandmother would find your beliefs incomprehensible. You can’t explain why Muslims have been invited into Britain yet you believe they have a right to be there. She would have called you a fool to your face. Likewise with this. It’s the done thing so you will do it. Compliance is the British Way and those that call the tune are dancing you off a cliff.

          • GreenAlba May 5, 2020 at 2:09 pm #

            Janos, I’m not going to be getting a Fear Porn vaccine – that’s the one that’s entirely in your head, the one that’s going to send me to the Gulag. But I refuse to fall into the insanity of your paranoia, sorry.

            And you know sweet FA about my grandmother. She used to go round the local employers asking them to take on various neighbours who were jobless during the depression, but she was no racist.

            And Muslims remain 5% of the UK population. You need to stop listening to the fear porn. The UK, on the other hand, took over and exploited almost a quarter of the world.

        • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 8:49 am #

          She wants the vaccine. LOL.

          “Give us the vaccine. Please!”

          • GreenAlba May 5, 2020 at 10:00 am #

            You’re channelling your five-year-old again, Chickenhawk.

            You need to get out more.

          • Nightowl May 7, 2020 at 3:46 am #

            “Give me the vaccine, Dr. Faust! I am begging for it!”

      • Majella May 5, 2020 at 8:35 am #


        That’s a disturbing picture – that someone clearly still in medical distress had been discharged. No doubt he was ‘cleared as non-infectious’ for statistical & logistical reasons, but it seems very harsh. The other organ involvement is also scary especially in one so apparently young.

        But not to worry! It’s just like a simple case of the ‘flu’ and usually mild or even entirely non-symptomatic! There are uncountable gazillions of undiagnosed asymptomatics out there, which apparently ‘grabbles’ the stats. These ‘death rates’ are just all exaggerated.

        Ask anyone around here…It’s all a huge hoax and deliberately designed scare us (‘fear porn’ one Clever Bastard calls it) and to take ‘our freedoms. In the course of time, ‘they’ will make us get a vaccine that will allow us to be tracked & traced, then eventually, ‘they’ will be able to “unperson” anyone ‘they’ wish to buy switching off the covert chip that will come with the vaccine. And compulsory masks??? Who do ‘they’ think they are? Outrageous.

        It’s all perfectly obvious! Surely you can see it? Surely your husband is in cahoots with ‘them’? If not, then I guess he’s no more than a ‘useful idiot’ (or NPC as one Clever Bastard puts it).

        “There ain’t ‘alf bin some Clever Bastards (lucky bleeders)”


        • GreenAlba May 5, 2020 at 10:18 am #


          “That’s a disturbing picture – that someone clearly still in medical distress had been discharged. No doubt he was ‘cleared as non-infectious’ for statistical & logistical reasons, but it seems very harsh.”

          I wouldn’t necessarily call it medical distress – his breathing was laboured. It might remain laboured for a couple of months – I don’t know how long these things last, but you wouldn’t be keeping someone in hospital for months if they didn’t need to be on an oxygen machine of some sort. And if he’s struggling badly enough they’ll take him back in, he just needs to get his GP to send him back in – or indeed call 999 if he is bad enough. At least no-one will ask him for his insurance details or his credit card!

          But yes, the whole ‘hoax’ thing is surreal.

          “Surely your husband is in cahoots with ‘them’?”

          Hmmm… if he is (a) ‘they’ should have given him some better PPE, and (b) they’re not paying him enough for it because I have to pay more per hour to get a plumber to come to my house. 🙂 Not kidding either, although it’s close (but the plumber has more leeway for fiddling his taxes!).

          In the meantime, it seems even those German (German!!!!!) docs are protesting, with more humour than we are led to believe is their cultural habit, the lack of PPE:


          As are French dentists, who are also expected to go back to work with inadequate protection:


          And yet I’ve still to hear one of the ‘hoax’ fear-porn purveyors explain why these people should keep working when you wouldn’t send soldiers out without protection. They signed up to help people, not to commit group suicide.

    • tucsonspur May 5, 2020 at 4:00 am #

      You know that I agree on the mask. I’m not up on the tenets of anarchism, this mutual aid idea. But yeah, Charlie Chaplin would probably wear one.


      • Majella May 5, 2020 at 4:47 am #


        Thanks, TS.

        Young Michael Chaplin would give the like-minded twerps around here a run for their money.

        • tucsonspur May 5, 2020 at 3:41 pm #

          Glad you enjoyed it.

  50. wpa_ccc May 4, 2020 at 8:05 pm #

    And it’s not racist – since Karens are mostly White. –Janos

    That’s reverse racism. You should be ashamed. White lives matter!

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    • Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 8:24 pm #

      Even if it’s coming from us, their hated fellow Whites?

      Remember Christ’s, “You have hated me without cause.” And his, “If the world hates you, remember it hated me first.”

      They hated us first. The Anglo Saxon Male has learned to hate. Along with him him the Celt, Slav, and even a few Nordics. The Italians were already there waiting for us….

  51. Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 8:32 pm #

    The News is screaming about 3000 deaths a day if we open up – this is before they even admitted to being completely wrong about their previous forecasts.

    Fuck these destroyers.

    • malthuss May 4, 2020 at 8:44 pm #

      Far as I can tell, China Virus has been in USA since last year.
      CDC says 40,000 deaths.

      • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 2:46 am #

        My Aussie mate and his wife in NYC believe they had it not long after New Year’s … but he does work in a big international office with a lot of people movement.

      • benr May 5, 2020 at 9:43 am #

        Pretty sure I had it just before Christmas.
        I was sick as hell for four days and mildly sick for around two weeks.

    • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 4:05 am #

      Yep. The plan is to extend the lockdown as long as possible, to ensure max. economic damage and to shift the idea of what is normal.

      Lockdowns will become normal. Your freedoms are being removed along with your borders.

      • Majella May 5, 2020 at 4:48 am #

        This is rational thinking?

        • GreenAlba May 5, 2020 at 7:45 am #

          I think they call it ‘fear porn’.

          • Majella May 5, 2020 at 9:14 am #

            Yes, and he’s the one peddling it.

          • Nightowl May 7, 2020 at 3:48 am #

            Using my lines again.


    • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 5:08 am #

      Statistical analysis has proven absolutely that “Janos Skorenzy” is a complete and utter right-wing racist nutter. Please avoid anything they say!

  52. Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 9:06 pm #


    Snitches thought their betrayals would be kept private. Somehow not!

    No switches! Just rheostats. Turn up the heat gradual, like.

    • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 5:07 am #

      Statistical analysis has proven absolutely that “Janos Skorenzy” is a complete and utter right-wing racist nutter. Please avoid anything they say!

      • benr May 5, 2020 at 9:44 am #

        Still stuck on stupid I see.
        Which shift is this?

  53. cc rider May 4, 2020 at 10:11 pm #

    The Bakersfield doctors are now in a new video. Probably won’t stay up on YT for very long because in the new USA we don’t allow any disagreement with the WHO. Nor do we have true free speech as we were once accustomed. Pat yourselves on the back leftist totalitarians!


  54. Pucker May 4, 2020 at 10:13 pm #

    Man-made virus….

    How did that polybasic furin cleavage site PRRA get into Covid 19?


  55. Cavepainter May 4, 2020 at 10:56 pm #

    Who’s going to argue that China’s leaders aren’t ruthless in thinking strategically. And strategically speaking, why is it that China has very purposefully built a scientific pool of 1st caliber capability that as a population is greater than that of the entire population of the Western World? Duh,…..to dominate you think? Front load that with the fact that in this world of human population overshoot it would be to China’s advantage to loose 4/5 ths of its own population to see like shrinkage within the rest of the world. Its a numbers game and numerically they are poised win.

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  56. akmofo May 4, 2020 at 11:14 pm #

    The China Hustle – Official Trailer

    Get ready to have your eyeballs served to you in a soup bowl by your Chinese pals.

    • Majella May 5, 2020 at 4:49 am #

      First released in 2017…

  57. Janos Skorenzy May 4, 2020 at 11:23 pm #

    • Section 242 of Title 18 makes it a crime for a person acting under color of any law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States. For the purpose of Section 242, acts under “color of law” include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within the their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official’s lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. Persons acting under color of law within the meaning of this statute include police officers, prisons guards and other law enforcement officials, as well as judges, care providers in public health facilities, and others who are acting as public officials. It is not necessary that the crime be motivated by animus toward the race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status or national origin of the victim.
    The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term, or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any.

    TITLE 18, U.S.C., SECTION 242
    • Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, … shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if bodily injury results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include the use, attempted use, or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, explosives, or fire, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnaping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, shall be fined under this title, or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.

    JS: The “color of law” – interesting phrase. Reminds me of “the second set of books” that have superseded our Constitution.

    • Majella May 5, 2020 at 4:51 am #

      Take it up with the Supreme Court. It’d be interesting to see where THEY land on it.

    • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 5:06 am #

      Statistical analysis has proven absolutely that “Janos Skorenzy” is a complete and utter right-wing racist nutter. Please avoid anything they say!

  58. Kawika May 5, 2020 at 12:05 am #

    It is hard to not see this whole COVID/shutdown situation as somehow intentional, but I don’t believe in conspiracy theories.

    Not that I don’t think people are evil enough to do things like stage 9-11 as an inside job; I just don’t think people are clever enough (especially not government officials).

    But the system creates these situations organically, without any need for a conspiracy, which is even scarier.

    Media naturally coalesces on the most hysterical interpretation of any threat, which multiplies the panic of the public. Any member of the media who dares deviate from the accepted narrative (the virus is apocalyptic and caused by Trump/Russia) is punished severely, even at Fox News (whose narrative is similar: the virus is apocalyptic and caused by Dems/China).

    Add in group-think in government and ‘leading’ scientists (the reason they are ‘leading’ is that they go along with the dominant theories), and we get what we have currently.

    What we are seeing is the mask coming off, in many ways, from the system.

    It should now be apparent to anyone past 3rd grade that the system does not care about people, and cannot/will not help them.

    The center (Wall St/DC axis) cannot hold, as the social contract is beyond broken. Before, the implicit deal was: you pay your taxes and we pocket a third, give a third to our buddies and give a third back to you dumb taxpayers. Now it is ‘we keep it all, and then go and print more and give all of that to ourselves and our buddies’.

    It really amazes me that people are not rioting in the streets over this. The elite should keep in mind that every revolution in history was carried out by the middle class, once they realized that they were no longer getting any benefit at all from the dominant system. They won’t, though, because the elites – including all of those that I have ever met – are idiots, just like the 99.99% that they look down on. Even the holy Oracle of Omaha is an idiot, as shown by his recent massive losses in the airline sector.

    I know my perspective is not one shared by many, but I actually am feeling that this crisis is in many ways the best thing that has happened to our world/planet/species during my lifetime. I say this because I see the virus as the planet/Mother Nature/Gaia giving us humans a very gentle ‘Please knock it off!’. The next warning won’t be so gentle, I am afraid.

    Anyway, the fear of dying from this (largely harmless) virus has caused us to give the Earth a very small, but well-deserved break. It has taken down several unneeded industries already (e.g., airlines, cruise liners), and will hopefully take out a few more before wrapping up in 2 years or so.

    Really, when I think of our ‘economy’, I feel that 90% or more is really not only nonproductive, but enormously counterproductive (i.e., greatly reducing our chances to survive as a species), including the above named, as well as the military-industrial-Congressional complex, Wall Street (which serves no purpose in the ‘economy’, if it ever did), Hollywood, Government, the Heath Insurance-Pharmaceutical-Hospital racket (of which I occupy a tiny corner), advertising, marketing, higher education, social media, Real Estate, industrial agriculture, the legal industry (esp. corporate law), lobbying, fracking, the tax preparation industry, the prison system, law enforcement (i.e., the War on Drugs), the Space industry, the interstate highways system, meat-packing plants,and so on. All of it needs to go yesterday. Seriously.

    If we want to have a chance at survival as a species, and as individuals, we need to focus on the basics, and only the basics, as we cannot afford more. The first focus should be on assuring a supply of clean water to all. Then, helping people grow their own food, using whatever means they have. Those who live in crowded urban areas will need to relocate. There is a ton of empty land out there in flyover country. At $12K per acre of good Iowa farmland, everyone could get an acre or two for a fraction of what the Fed vomits up on Goldman Sachs over a 6-hour period. Next, helping people set up some basic shelter that will keep them alive through winters. No Wi-Fi, no rec rooms with billiard tables, nor 3-car garages. Just the basics. That is about all the inhabitants of the former United States can afford at this point, given that most have no savings and those that do are about to lose almost all of it.

    I truly do believe that the US is done, toast, gone. We just refuse to accept it. But the world will be so much better off for it, once we do. If we don’t (and we most assuredly won’t), then the result will be that those aforementioned basics will not be attainable, as we will have missed the window of opportunity. I know that is offensive to 99.99% of Americans, but so be it. Reality is not pretty, and accepting it is painful.

    We also need to immediately devolve all power from centralized, ossified, and corrupt central governments. In the (former) US, that would mean first to the states as a transition, and then to cities and counties, then maybe even further. I really doubt that cities will continue to exist as they do currently. Even now, people are abandoning not only NYC, but also LA, Chicago and other large cities in favor of living in the countryside or smaller places at least. This trend long predates COVID-19, but it has acted as a major accelerant.

    If people can do their meaningless jobs online instead of in a skyscraper, then they will have no reason to live in cities, given the massive costs inherent in doing so. Flight (and not the kind we do in an aeroplane) to mid-sized affordable, low-tax cities like Tulsa, Des Moines, and Texarkana will be a megatrend in the 2020s. After that, the trend will be from those cities to even smaller places that are even cheaper and that enable people to grow their own food.

    We are heading off a cliff, and that we have actually been off a cliff for over a decade now, awaiting our Wile E Coyote moment when we look down and see there ain’t nothing down there…

    • Kawika May 5, 2020 at 12:05 am #

      Btw, I do have to make a teeny, tiny revision to my previous prediction that the Dow would go to zero.

      My new prediction is that it will go to infinity…

      …but the dollar will go to zero, so same difference! 😉

    • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 12:15 am #

      Have your heard of the Church of Euthanasia? Their motto is “Save the Earth, Kill Yourself.” How serious are you about the Earf?

      Needless to say I reject this. Life is War. The healthy struggle for existence and beyond that, happiness. Imagine if we had kept our borders closes: We’d be 220 million, 90% White. That was viable. The Blacks kept to their place or else. And they were better off by and large. This Land was ours. On that basis, we should and could have become more environmentally sensitive. But now at 330 million with no demographic unity? It is to laugh.

      • Cavepainter May 5, 2020 at 8:12 am #

        Uh, please, rational argument hinged to retrievable references. No ad hominem, that is to say.

      • Q. Shtik May 5, 2020 at 11:08 am #

        Have your heard of the Church of Euthanasia? Their motto is “Save the Earth, Kill Yourself.” How serious are you about the Earf? – Janos


        I am very serious about saving the ‘earf’ but not in the way you suggest. We need not kill ourselves. All 7.5 billion, give or take a few, will die in some way or another in the next hundred years. The trick is to have only a 13% replacement rate. That would leave earth with one billion people. Hopefully the planet and humans can survive with that many people. How to get people to massively cut back on reproduction is the question.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 1:00 pm #

          Old Playboy Cartoon: Overpopulation will continue to be a problem as long as screwing is more popular than dying.

    • aibohphobia May 5, 2020 at 1:44 am #

      There’s no need for a Conspiracy when mere Stupidity will do–
      While it seems likely that COVID actually was a Chinese bioweapon, Stupidity fully explains them letting it get out of their lab and killing plenty of their own people first. Likely we will never know the real numbers of how many Chinese were killed.
      There’s no need for Trump to punish them–The Chinese have already punished themselves.
      Biological Warfare itself is a fool’s game. Once you release the germ, there’s no way to control where it will go–Living things like to stay alive, and it will turn on the one who released it, as we have seen.

      Its also stupid to pump out a few brand-new trillions of baseless dollars. They will only cause a fall in the purchasing power of all dollars–What we (again, stupidly) call “Inflation.” Anyone who gets such funds should apply them towards paying down their credit balance–or buying Gold, which at least temporarily will hold its purchasing power, or buying arable land outright–if any is left….

      • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 1:03 pm #

        We’re dealing with the subhuman and the inhuman. The former, with all their incompetence, provide a perfect cover for the inhuman and their designs. You never know what an individual rat will do, (unless you know him and/or have shaped his behavior) but you can track what rats in general will do and work with it. They know how to scare people and how to herd the herd. The media are their sheep dogs. The sheep dogs work for the wolves…..

    • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 2:55 am #

      But the system creates these situations organically, without any need for a conspiracy, which is even scarier.

      Yes – if your choice is between a clusterfuck mess-up and a conspiracy … always go for the former … you’ll always be right.

      I don’t know (no-one does) whether the virus emerged from a Wuhan lab or a Wuhan wild-food market, but I think the onus of proof is on others to demonstrate it was (a) a bioengineered bug (by the Chinese or the US) , and even more, (b) intentionally released (by China or the US) as part of some campaign or strategy.

      Over to the conspiracists to provide some credible evidence that this wasn’t a naturally occurring event, brought about by very bad hygiene, and some appallingly awful culinary habits.

      • Pucker May 5, 2020 at 6:22 am #

        There is a plethora of Miss Shi Zhengli’s published research on the Wuhan Institute of Virology bat coronavirus research that can be found with minimal effort in the web. It is an established fact that the US NIH funded gain-of-function bioweapons research on bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. People should be lined up and shot for this alone.

        Man-made virus….

        How did that polybasic furin cleavage site PRRA get into Covid 19?


    • Majella May 5, 2020 at 4:58 am #


      “…at $12K per acre of good Iowa farmland, everyone could get an acre or two for a fraction of what the Fed vomits up on Goldman Sachs over a 6-hour period. “

      That really does put the Grifting Class into perspective. Thanks.

  59. SoftStarLight May 5, 2020 at 1:21 am #

    When I heard about the supersized, killer hornets invading the Pacific Northwest I immediately thought about the tracker jackers. Not quite the same but generally it is a plausible scenario you know. But of course they say the Chinese and Japanese have dealt with them for thousands of years so nothing new or strange to see here. They may just wipe the North American bee population out and dissolve peoples’ skin with their stings. Is it kinda strange though that their invading in the midst of covid? I’m sure it’s possible that its all coincidental.

    • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 3:26 am #

      Perhaps they have natural predators in China that aren’t available in Blaine WA.

      We’ve driven right through the Blaine area – it is very nice. I didn’t notice the bees.

      • BackRowHeckler May 5, 2020 at 5:05 am #

        You’ve driven thru every area in the entire US, apparently.

        • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 5:17 am #

          What a lying lunatic you are … please provide documentary evidence that I have ever said I’ve driven through every area of the US. Yes – 36 states and three territories – but that’s not everything.

          Haven’t beeen to the red-neck deplorable state – Texas – for example. Lifwe is too short to bother speninding any time in tEXQAS. fLORIDA WAS VERY MARGINAL TOO … kEY wEST WAS QA TOTAL WANK.

          • benr May 5, 2020 at 9:48 am #

            Because you constantly harp about where you have been.
            Know it all that knows nothing.
            Partisan hack with a penchant for being a complete turd.

        • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 6:02 am #

          He just takes lots of long-haul flights to the States, man.

          It all adds up. 🙂

          • BackRowHeckler May 5, 2020 at 8:44 am #

            It just that every area that’s mentioned — Harper’s Ferry, Long Beach, Seattle, Key West — Cargill has been there and knows all about it. In fact he knows more than the ignorant wankers from Podunk, Indiana know.


          • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 10:49 am #

            Cargill resides at 1625 Massachusetts Ave NW, Ste 300, Washington, DC 20036

    • Laundromat Blues May 5, 2020 at 6:47 am #

      When I heard about it I thought about John Belushi and the Killer Bees.

  60. wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 1:52 am #

    Roll on November 3. What a joke! –brh

    Voters’ views on elections, based on historical data, are decided in May, not September. Though Trump’ CDC guy is saying September won’t be pretty either. The markets are wiped, unemployment is at Great Depression levels. This all makes Biden look positively attractive.

    Trump is losing among senior citizens in Florida. Florida has quite a few senior citizens. Trump is losing in Texas, in Arizona. By October the deep south red states may be in play.

    I still haven’t received any check with Trump’s name on it. We are months into the pandemic and there is still not enough PPE, still no supply of 15 minute bedside diagnostic kits for COVID-19 for asymptomatic patients who may be transmitting the virus to others.

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  61. Cargill May 5, 2020 at 3:36 am #

    I still haven’t received any check with Trump’s name on it. We are months into the pandemic and there is still not enough PPE, still no supply of 15 minute bedside diagnostic kits for COVID-19 for asymptomatic patients who may be transmitting the virus to others.

    I love your enthusiasm wpa – and also believe that the unravelling of the economy, unemployment, and the pandemic response, should lead to a Democrat victory on 3 November, plus Senate and HR seats too … but I retain my eternal pessimism that with Joe Biden, the Dems will clutch defeat from the jaws of victory.

    I really hope I’m wrong … but those Repub thugs are pretty ruthless.

  62. Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 4:26 am #

    Flynn/Coup update:

    Sidney Powell (Flynn’s lawer) discusses documents the FBI is still hiding, and related items.

    *Interesting to note is the The Stroker apparently post-edited (hidden from the court) his colleague’s original 302 interview form so heavily, that he was commenting that he needed to find a way to preserve the colleague’s voice.


    On review, Obama may end up being the most corrupt president in US history.

    • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 4:50 am #

      Dream on cowboy, what a little snivelling ferret you are. Are you up Flynn’s bum?

      • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 5:16 am #

        Facts are presented, and this is the shill’s response.

        Take note, observers.

        • Laundromat Blues May 5, 2020 at 6:45 am #

          Rewind. Play. Rewind. Play. Rewind. Play. Republicans. Rewind. Play. Rewind. Play. Republicans. Rewind. Play. Rewind. Play. Republicans. Yawn.

    • Majella May 5, 2020 at 5:07 am #

      You already peddled this particular ‘zinger’. Wow. Now we get re-runs, because it’s not taking?

      ‘I can’t hide my disgust, my disdain, at this criminal offense,’ said the judge (Sullivan) in the Flynn case. ‘You sold your country out.’ “

      • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 5:13 am #

        Check the timeline on that quote and Sullivan’s actions and statements since.

        So easy. LOL.

        • Majella May 5, 2020 at 6:07 am #

          How recent?

          December 2019:

          “Judge rejects claims by Trump ex-adviser Flynn of FBI misconduct

          WASHINGTON (Reuters) – A U.S. judge on Monday flatly rejected a last-ditch bid by President Donald Trump’s former national security adviser Michael Flynn to get the criminal charge to which he already pleaded guilty dropped, brushing aside his claims of misconduct by prosecutors and the FBI.”

          The most recent comment I can find has no statement attributed to judge Emmett Sullivan (which would be inappropriate anyway, I’m guessing):

          What’s next: U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan has delayed Flynn’s sentencing in Washington, D.C., to a later date while he awaits submissions on the former national security adviser’s claim that his previous attorneys violated his constitutional rights by not giving him adequate legal counsel.”

          Care to supply your ‘hotline’ access to the statements by Judge Sullivan?

    • Majella May 5, 2020 at 5:33 am #

      Sidney Powell is a grandstander, with a book published in 2014, with a follow-up on the same lines issued this year following her appointment as Flynn’s counsel in 2019.

      She’s had it in for the DoJ since she quit it. She may well be right in her assertions that there are prosecutors with narcissistic tendencies, but that’s what happens when you employ PEOPLE. Her side of that political fences is just as knee-deep in them.

      I found this comment posted elsewhere, from a year ago. I think it makes a point that NigIQwl SHOULD get:

      It took Congress (Trey Gowdy) five years, nine investigations, and eleven hours of sworn testimony on live TV without an attorney by her side, for Congress to conclude that Hillary Clinton had never had a parking ticket or an overdue library book, and that no crimes had taken place in connection with the Benghazi incident. The only reason Ms. Clinton ended her testimony was that all the Republican congresspeople had left the room, and she was the one who had to turn off the lights.

      Mr. Trump insists on fairness. Surely the country owes Mr. Trump the courtesy of the same thorough approach to clearing HIS name that was granted to Ms. Clinton, i.e. eight more investigations over the next three years, and a long day of sworn testimony on live TV.”

      What does Trey Gowdy have to say (28 June 2018) about the Mueller probe?

      Gowdy focused on the special counsel, which he said was being used by congressional Democrats as a fundraising tool. He admonished Rosenstein: “Whatever you got, finish it the hell up, because this country is being torn apart.

      Ha! Ironic, n’est-ce pas?

      He had also, interestingly, earlier expressed the following opinion (March 2018) – in defiance of his House Committee’s findings:

      Rep. Trey Gowdy of South Carolina said that the evidence gathered by the Committee clearly showed Russia’s disdain for Trump’s rival, Hillary Clinton, and was “motivated in whole or in part by a desire to harm her candidacy or undermine her Presidency had she prevailed.”

      A source familiar with Gowdy’s thinking said the congressman believes there’s no difference between opposing Clinton and backing Trump in what had become, effectively, a two-person race. The source added that Gowdy “disagrees with the conclusion” that the intelligence agencies got it wrong.

      “He believes the debate over whether desiring a negative outcome for Clinton necessarily meant Russia had a preference for candidate Trump is a distinction that doesn’t make a difference,” the source said.

      • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 6:00 am #

        No comment on the timeline and Sullivan’s comments and actions afterward.

        As usual, all of the hard evidence is against you, yet you pretend it doesn’t exist.

        Another emotional spiral.


        • Majella May 5, 2020 at 6:07 am #

          You remain a fucking child.

        • Majella May 5, 2020 at 6:20 am #

          Also, see above that last post – I responded to your ‘challenge’ in chronological order, but you got your snarky little dig in out of same. No fucking patience huh.

          • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 7:35 am #

            What did Sullivan say and do after that comment?

            Come on, Jello.

            You can’t talk your way out of it with me. 🙂

          • benr May 5, 2020 at 9:50 am #


            Same shit different day Maj will never admit to being wrong about anything.
            The school marm can’t admit she is wrong and we are not her pupils.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 1:05 pm #

            A Karen.

  63. Majella May 5, 2020 at 5:11 am #

    Hey, Cargill

    Do you have any perspective on the possible ‘ANZAC Travel Bubble’ i read about today?

    You might be able to get some cheap skiing in Queenstown (direct flights from Tullamarine) in July/August if it goes ahead.

    I expect everything will be half-price – from the flights to the accommodation & the bars & restaurants! Perfect for retired fogeys living of their scrawny personal super funds!

    • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 5:32 am #

      Do you have any perspective on the possible ‘ANZAC Travel Bubble’ i read about today?

      Jacinda Ardern (excellent NZ prime minister) poured cold water on the deal today at an inter-governmental hook-up – she didn’t reject the whole Trans-Tasman Bubble, just thought it was too soon. She wanted a lot of other stuff in place first.

      A whole lot of flat-earth governors in the US – in all those shit-kicking red states – could take notice of Ms Ardern … but they never will, they are such uneducated dipsticks. Most of them couldn’t run a Dairy Queen franchise. Mike Huckabee is a great example.

      • Majella May 5, 2020 at 6:13 am #

        Hmm – ‘…poured cold water on it”?

        That’s an interesting take on it. From what I read, she is keen, sees the benefits (which would be much greater for NZ than Ostraya) but recognises that there’s a number of pretty significant steps that would need to be sorted before it could happen.

        I thought you’d likely be KEEN to be able to get away from all that heat, sunshine & mobs of ‘roos!

        • Iananna May 8, 2020 at 7:57 pm #

          Nah, too many Oz possums in Aotearoa, eating the deciduous forests.
          The Tasman bubble, like the UK/Irish relationship, allows visa (technically, it’s a #444 ‘invisible’ visa) free travel, residence, working & voting rights as well as quarantine – pity about those damned apples with fire blight and dodgy Manuka honey.
          Jacinda would be wise to hold off for a while, at least until Morriscum, aka SmoKo from marketting, is replaced by someone sane.
          Unfortunately that’ll be a longgg time as Gestapotato Dutton is feeling his oats.

  64. Cargill May 5, 2020 at 5:21 am #

    What a lying lunatic you are … please provide documentary evidence that I have ever said I’ve driven through every area of the US. Yes – 36 states and three territories – but that’s not everything.

    Haven’t been to the redneck deplorable state – Texas – for example. Life is too short to bother with Texas … Florida was pretty marginal as well – Key West was a total wank … Americans “letting their hair down” is a very ugly pathetic sight, I have to say. Vegas (four visits) was appalling as well.

    Funny country.

    • BackRowHeckler May 5, 2020 at 9:03 am #

      Well it’s our home. If you don’t like it here stay out, you won’t be missed.

    • Q. Shtik May 5, 2020 at 11:51 am #

      Vegas (four visits) was appalling as well. – Cargill


      If it was appalling why did you make four visits?

      • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 7:52 pm #

        It’s a convenient hub for a lot of genuinely good things not made by human beings. Las Vegas stays of only one or two nights apiece. Maybe a three.

        I rechecked … we’ve been there on six occasions.

  65. Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 5:56 am #

    Detailed breakdown of the malicious framing and prosecution of Gen. Michael Flynn.


    “More significantly, Flynn maintained that he is innocent of the charge and had only pleaded guilty because Mueller’s prosecutors threatened to go after his son if he refused.”

    “[…] evidence confirms Flynn’s claim that he was coerced into the plea agreement. (It also provides an independent basis for a plea withdrawal, although outright dismissal is a more appropriate remedy to respond to the outrageous prosecutorial misconduct.)”

    This lines up with the initial statements from FBI interviewers that Flynn did not lie (also mentioned in the piece above). This of course was prior to the FBI “losing” the original 302 interview forms, and replacing them with 302s heavily edited by The Stroker (mentioned in the previous post).

    Massive level of criminality here, folks.

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    • Majella May 5, 2020 at 6:10 am #

      Yes, there’s a lot of folks should be in jail, but not necessarily the ones YOU’D see convicted.

      For every opinion that supports your perspective, there’s at least two that don’t. You say to-may-to, I say tom-a-toe.

    • Majella May 5, 2020 at 6:16 am #

      You can trawl through all the ‘conservative’ news outlets that you so admire. I read them too, and there’s still a huge heapin’ helpin’ of opinion in there.

      In the end, the only OPINION that matters is the Judge. Why don’t you just wait for your vindication from an unimpeachable source – Emmett Sullivan?

      • benr May 5, 2020 at 9:52 am #

        Judge shopping to get a conviction is judicial tyranny.
        Judge was appointed by Democrat which equals a sham trial.

  66. Pucker May 5, 2020 at 6:26 am #

    There is a plethora of Miss Shi Zhengli’s published research on her Wuhan Institute of Virology bat coronavirus research that can be found with minimal effort in the web. It is an established fact that the US NIH funded gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Since this is bioweapons research, people should be lined up and shot for this alone.

    Man-made virus….

    How did that polybasic furin cleavage site PRRA get into Covid 19?


    • Pucker May 5, 2020 at 7:16 am #

      It looks like we may be taken out by “Fur ‘N Cleavage”?

  67. Laundromat Blues May 5, 2020 at 6:35 am #

    Since the fake president took office, we are weaker, sicker, poorer, and our economy is in shambles. All the fake president can do is peddle fake coups and false hope. The fake president wants to be re-elected in another fake election via the baloney electoral college i.e. how we cheat. Get rid of the electoral college, get rid of the fake president.

    • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 7:50 am #

      Deep thoughts. Powerful arguments.


    • JohnAZ May 5, 2020 at 10:20 am #

      We are weaker, etc. because of the decline in the educational quality of the American public due to manipulation of the Left. Trump has been here for three plus years, the decline started fifty years ago.

      Your understanding of the electoral college shows you are a member of the club.

  68. Majella May 5, 2020 at 6:53 am #

    One of the great Aussie comedians ‘Chopper’ Reid, on the Contact Tracing App.


    • Iananna May 8, 2020 at 7:49 pm #

      I thought that he was, deservedly, dead.

      • Majella May 9, 2020 at 2:29 am #

        The actual ‘Chopper ‘ Reid, yes. This is a comic who year the name and distinctive ‘attaché.

        • Majella May 9, 2020 at 2:30 am #


          • Iananna May 9, 2020 at 7:40 pm #

            Pity, I rather liked the idea of Chopper with an attache case, presumably to carry prosthetic ears.

  69. Pucker May 5, 2020 at 6:57 am #

    They’re all “Fuck’n Nuts”. And we’re blessed with the likes of eugenics Nutters, like Bill Gates, Jeffrey Epstein, and Fauci. And then you’ve got the deranged piss ant academic researchers in China and the US chasing NIH grants and opportunities to publish their findings on gain-of-function bat coronaviruses. Publish-or-Perish…. The Wuhan Institute of Virology was built with the assistance of Americans with the US CDC officials employed as outside “Consultants”. And then you’ve got the MSM which just reports the Party Line and does Zero research and refuses to ask any serious questions. They’re Fuck’n Bat Shit Crazy…..


  70. Pucker May 5, 2020 at 7:22 am #

    It looks like we may be taken out by “Fur ‘N Cleavage”?

    “Fur & Cleavage” – It sounds like a pub in London….

    Some crazy Chinese woman’s “Fur ‘N Cleavage” paid for by the American government (NIH) and the American taxpayer. Jesus…..

    Man-made virus….

    How did that polybasic furin cleavage site PRRA get into Covid 19?


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  71. Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 7:34 am #

    Check this out: Per John Solomon — Trump calls for reopening the “cold case” over the young intern found dead in Morning Joe’s office.


    I remember when Gawker was around (was not a huge fan of what they did in general, but somtimes they had some scoops), and they had a huge exposee on that.

    I wonder how Joe feels right now?

    • Majella May 5, 2020 at 8:02 am #

      This is President Dipshit getting twitter-rage because he doesn’t like some facts:

      “Concast should open up a long overdue Florida Cold Case against Psycho Joe Scarborough,” tweeted Trump, after Scarborough and “Morning Joe” co-host Mika Brzezinski reported bad polling numbers for Trump and criticized his interpretation during a Sunday night virtual town hall with Fox News of coronavirus statistics.

      “I know him and Crazy Mika well, used them beautifully in the last Election, dumped them nicely, and will state on the record that he is ‘nuts’. Besides, bad ratings! #OPENJOECOLDCASE,” the tweet continued.”

      Why do you peddle in such scumbag trash? I’m thinking you’ve never seen a conspiracy you didn’t grab with both hands.

      But, you’re shrewd enough not to go on nutjob rants that EXPOSE your true feelings. You simply point at others doing it for you.

    • Majella May 5, 2020 at 8:06 am #

      And look at YOUR SOURCE for this tweet. Despicable:


      • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 8:42 am #

        Solomon is one of the most respected journalists in the business.

        • Majella May 5, 2020 at 9:24 am #

          Then why is he stooping to retweeting really stupid posts like that one?

          • benr May 5, 2020 at 11:09 am #

            To git under te skin of peepulls like yu.

          • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 1:52 pm #

            The funniest part is that the (highly respected) source has no bearing on the post anyways. As the story is the President’s Tweet.

            The source is simply informing others that the President Tweeted about Morning Joe being a suspected murderer.

            I think Jello may have tried some Chlorox for that sniffle after all.

        • Majella May 5, 2020 at 9:49 pm #

          How do you rate George Webb?

  72. Majella May 5, 2020 at 7:56 am #

    To-may-toes, to-ma-toes

    Here’s a reference to a ruling of Sullivan on the 302 issue:

    “…editing notes on the questioning of Mr. Flynn. His lawyers said they were further evidence that the F.B.I. doctored the interview notes known as a 302, a claim that the judge overseeing Mr. Flynn’s case, Emmet G. Sullivan of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia, has previously rejected.”

    From a substantial summary ofthe case as it stands now – dated 1 May 2020


    The last document in this tranche is a page of handwritten notes, with some redactions, dated Jan. 24; it is not clear whether the notes were written before the Flynn interview was conducted or after it. The writer seems to be sketching out thoughts—it is not clear whose—on how the bureau should navigate the politically tricky investigation, particularly regarding whether or not the FBI should allow Flynn to lie or confront him with evidence of his falsehood. The notes appear to show the writer moving toward the argument that the bureau should take the latter path. “What’s urgent?” the writer asks. “Truth/Admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute him or get him fired?” The notes go on:

    > We regularly show subjects evidence with the goal of getting them to admit their wrongdoing
    > I don’t see how getting someone to admit their wrongdoing is going easy on him
    > If we get him to admit to breaking the Logan Act, give this to DOJ and have them decide
    > Or, if he initially lies, then we present him [redacted] and he admits it, document for DOJ, and let them decide how to address it
    > If we’re seen as playing games, WH [White House] will be furious
    > Protect our institution by not playing games

    Flynn’s new lawyers cite these notes, which were presumably written by then-FBI counterintelligence chief Bill Priestap, as supposed smoking-gun evidence that the FBI was seeking to entrap Flynn in a lie. The trouble with that argument is that absolutely nothing forced Flynn not to tell the truth in that interview. And while FBI officials appear to have discussed the strategic purpose of the interview, there’s nothing whatsoever wrong with that. To be sure, a possible criminal prosecution based on the Logan Act case was weak leverage, given that the statute has virtually no history of enforcement, but agents hold relatively weak leverage over witnesses all the time. And yes, it’s wrong for the bureau to set up an interview in the absence of a viable case in order to induce a witness to lie for purposes of prosecution, but there’s no evidence that is what happened—merely evidence that the possibility was on a list of possible strategic goals for the interview. And yes, the bureau will sometimes confront a witness with a lie and specifically warn the person about lying being a felony, but that is not a legal requirement.

    In fact, the Flynn interview gave Flynn every opportunity to tell the truth. As the FBI’s partially redacted memo documenting Flynn’s interview reflects, the questions were careful. They were specific. The agents, as Strzok later recalled in a formal FBI interview of his own, planned to try to jog Flynn’s memory if he said he could not remember a detail by using the exact words they knew he had used in his conversation with Kislyak. And Flynn, as he admitted in open court—twice—did not tell the truth. That is not entrapment or a set-up, and it is very far indeed from outrageous government conduct. It’s conducting an interview—and a witness at the highest levels of government lying in it.”

    I know precisely what your response will be.

    • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 8:38 am #

      Flynn’s former legal cousel “finds” more missing documents related to the case and must now hand them over to the defense and Sullivan.

      “32 pages of handwritten notes and 16 pages of documents with handwritten notations–in addition to the 17,500 new pages”


      Sidney is a one-woman wrecking ball.


      • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 8:39 am #

        Sorry, should have been a new post.

        • BackRowHeckler May 5, 2020 at 8:57 am #

          Apparently Flynn made 3 star General in the US Army by being a lying scoundrel. That’s what they would have us believe. Of course any appointees in a future Biden admin will be 100% on the up and up, real eagle scouts every one.


  73. SoftStarLight May 5, 2020 at 9:19 am #

    What a let down Sean Hannity is. And he says he is one of the biggest defenders of the second amendment. Hah that’s not true now is that Sean!

    • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 1:08 pm #

      What happened? What did he say? Did he speak out against the Michigan Patriots?

      • SoftStarLight May 5, 2020 at 5:42 pm #


        Look at how he condemns us and the way he talk about us. He is completely full of bullshit. Do you agree?

        • Majella May 7, 2020 at 4:46 am #

          For the first time in MY experience, Hannity is actually TALKING SENSE for once. This “display” of hard-on, intimidatory masculinity is just simply unproductive.

          Ha! Who’da thunk it?

          Also, it didn’t sound like he was talking about YOU, SSL. Unless…did you show up in Baton Rouge with a derringer to protest your right to infect others?

  74. SoftStarLight May 5, 2020 at 9:39 am #

    A majority of Australians want immigrant numbers reduced. Mass migration and the associated devastating social, economic, and environmental impacts are not lost on Aussies either.


  75. SoftStarLight May 5, 2020 at 9:49 am #

    Meanwhile. After Shrub Junior snorted another line he yelled out something about America needing a ton more migrants. The typical arguments were given. Immigrants are simply vital for our lives and our economy. We cannot breath and exist without a constant inflow of strangers. Americans must be willing to work for less and live in more crowded and dirtier conditions and listen to people speak in every other language all day other than English. Shrubbie also thinks WHO is great and I’m pretty sure he likes the CCP too.

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    • PeteAtomic May 5, 2020 at 10:29 am #

      lol! great post.. and right on..

      in other words.. “the engines of industry need endless slave laborers!” screams oligarchic war criminal

      • SoftStarLight May 5, 2020 at 11:10 am #

        Thank you :-)! I felt inspired lol. Yep, easy for a wealthy oligarch to say. He an his family will never have to deal with the fallout of his decisions.

  76. akmofo May 5, 2020 at 10:15 am #

    Relaxing WALKER coronavirus version


    Ness Ziona was founded in 1883 as a settlement of Jewish farmers and laborers came over mainly from Eastern Europe. Throughout the years the farming community supported itself mainly through agriculture. Since then the industry has grown and developed into a modern city with progressive education, new spacious neighborhoods, and a high-tech industrial park; all while still maintaining its special “small village” atmosphere. This is the basis for our slogan: “Ness Ziona, a city with the heart of a farming community”.

  77. benr May 5, 2020 at 10:18 am #

    New report shows high likely hood that imported n95 masks are inneffective IE waste of time and money!


    This is about making the ninnies feel better.
    From a nation of men made of steel to a nation of pussies in forty years.

    • GreenAlba May 5, 2020 at 10:34 am #


      N95 masks (the ones that work) are for medical professionals.

      The masks most people are wearing on public transport or in shops (and certainly the cotton ones I’m wearing) aren’t medical grade. ‘All’ they do is help reduce the transmission rate, so instead of each person infecting three other people, they may just infect one. That makes an ENORMOUS difference, after a couple of weeks, to how many people end up in critical care at the same time.

      If you think that is something only a nation of ninnies would want, then I fear for what is happening to American brain cells, not just lungs and kidneys.

    • JohnAZ May 5, 2020 at 10:45 am #


      Masks do not prevent transmission of the virus. It blocks passage of mucus droplets to and from the wearer.

      1. It stops outgoing droplets from the wearer. Coughs, talking, singing, sneezing and possibly just breathing.

      2. It slows incoming droplets from “floating” droplets. Someone sneezes, coughs, etc, and the hanging droplets are there and active for a few hours afterward for someone to walk through. Add this onto asymptomatic people and this could be the missing component that keeps the cases from falling.

      3. It blocks mini spit from any source from direct, in your face, transmission sources. As before, coughs, sneezes, talking, singing or maybe breathing may be enough.

      The virus attacks so many cell types due to the ubiquitous presence of ACE2 that fluid outflow from any of these source organs may transmit the virus.

      Skin, sweat, oil by contact

      GI, vomit, stool, mucus. By fecal route, oral route.

      Urinary urine

      Eyes, touching surfaces


      After two months of shutdown, we have some downturn on the east coast but by and large, the number of new cases daily seems to be at steady state to slightly increasing rate. We do not know what is keeping this going like it is.

      Masks may be a nuisance but as a deterrence to transmission, they help. The videos of the areas being opened show how little respect the public has for the ability of the virus to infect.

      The biggest cause of the continuing contagion is the stupidity of the public as evidenced by the videos of overcrowded stores and beaches.

      Not Trump, the people are causing this.

      BTW, new reports this AM from a study in Australia says that Kids get the virus at the same rates as adults. A big difference is that the kids get the virus in the GI tract rather than the lungs first. Diarrhea is the opening symptom. So they do not sneeze, cough transmit the virus.

      • sophia May 5, 2020 at 11:04 am #


        I do not think the virus is transmitted via the skin nor the urine. Urine being usually sterile. As to the skin, yes, if you then touch a mucus membrane. I do not know what you mean by, liver.

        Realize that outside, it is very unlikely that the virus can persist more than a few minutes in the sun.

        • JohnAZ May 5, 2020 at 11:17 am #

          Rashes and Covid toes, purple spots, show that the skin is involved. Maybe the capillary bed feeding the skin.

          Urine is normally sterile. Not when infected. Think UTIs.

          Other organs being infected are nervous tissues including the brain and blood vessels, both the endothelial tissue and the smooth muscles of arteries. The latter is being blamed for the increasing rates of blood clotting being reported.

          The universality of the virus is what makes it so dangerous.

          Stats are understood well about the viability times of the virus. Surfaces from an hour to a couple of days depending on the surface. Interestingly, copper is the best surface killing the virus in less than an hour.

          • GreenAlba May 5, 2020 at 12:06 pm #

            It’s longer than a couple of days on hard surfaces, JohnAZ. On a cotton mask it’s apparently about 24 hours, and on the outside of a surgical mask up to 7 days (according to a Lancet study).

          • sophia May 6, 2020 at 12:54 pm #


            I still think you are making tings up. If there are physical manifestations like discolored toes it does not mean that this is how the virus spreads. I mean, that is actually silly.
            UTI’s are direct infections within the urinary tract. But our bodies are filled with microbes and urine is usually sterile.

      • benr May 5, 2020 at 11:07 am #

        Bah masks are useless when people pick their noses touch their faces and don’t wash their hands 80 times a day.
        The only way to get past this is to embrace it and build up that immunity.
        Making people sit in their homes for months on end is a waste of time this thing ain’t going away.

        • GreenAlba May 5, 2020 at 11:29 am #

          I’m not picking my nose, benr, or touching the mask or my face, or failing to wash my hands. You may ‘bah’ all you like.

          “The only way to get past this is to embrace it and build up that immunity.”

          Indeed. And that is what will happen, even with masks. It’s just that the transmission rate will be lowered and may (only ‘may’, because we don’t know how people will behave) keep the rate of hospitalisations to a manageable level, and the supplies of PPE adequate (which they currently aren’t even now).

          “Making people sit in their homes for months on end is a waste of time this thing ain’t going away.”

          I quite agree, which is why our lockdown isn’t going to last for months. Perhaps if our government had had adequate levels of PPE and people had worn masks from the start we could have managed without the lockdown at all. But (a) there were no surgical gowns at all in the PPE stocks in the warehouse(s), even though ministers were warned about that last year, and (b) they were reluctant to advise wearing masks because they were afraid people would buy up stocks that health and care workers needed.

          The management of this health crisis has been a fiasco.

        • JohnAZ May 5, 2020 at 11:34 am #

          I forgot to add no.4 which is a mask stops you from touching certain areas of the face. But not all, and the contagion site is not always the face anyway.

          You are right about the immunity system. It is really the only thing that separates the seriously ill from the asymptomatic.

          Your last statement I totally believe. Remember the surge model that everyone operated to at the beginning. We locked everything dow to prevent cities from overloading their hospitals.

          There is something basically wrong with the models that the data is not following. Flattening the curve did nothing to change the total cases just the rate of infection. Western states are showing a slow rise in the rate curves, two months after the shutdown. Isolation is working somewhat maybe to slow down the rate of cases, maybe. Everything is maybe, BTW. The models are based on prior viruses, this one may be totally different.

          I cannot believe what has happened here. Two MDs, in their fifteen minutes of fame, have succeeded in shutting down the US economy. The President has lost control, the Deep State is luxuriating, China, climbing out of its slowdown, is loving it. Hitler, Tojo, Russia, has not had the effect on the country that these two doctors have.

          I am really suspicious of everything right now as I have seen the states divide between opening and staying locked down according to political party. The central power folks are Currently smiling.

          And yes, I am suspicious of both of those two doctors having witnessed Deep State folks undermining Trump’s populism every chance they can.

          • Laundromat Blues May 5, 2020 at 12:13 pm #

            Two MD’s have shut down the US economy. Let’s be perfectly clear. President Trump shut down the US economy. President Trump is to blame for 70,000 dead Americans and 30 million Americans out of work and the country teetering on a recession and maybe a depression. President Trump is to blame, not the deep state, not the Catholic Church, not the Mafia, not Obama. President Trump is to blame for all of this.

          • BackRowHeckler May 5, 2020 at 12:25 pm #

            For Krist sake Laundrymat blues are you still at it? Look, President Trump isn’t responsible for your personal unhappiness, the fault lies elsewhere, maybe in your own head.


      • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 1:12 pm #

        You’re getting lose in the details again, then you will get afraid, etc.

        We’re all going to get it. Most will be fine. That’s the ticket. Don’t ask the Centipede how he walks. Not only will he not be able to tell you, he won’t be able to walk anymore either.

        The less the average person thinks the better. I mean unless they get really good at it, their instincts serve them better. And those who attempt to terrify them as has been done? They deserve the Punishment the Constitution indicates, after a trial by the People – not their peers needless to say. Their peers would let them off as per Masonic morality.

        • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 5:20 pm #

          The less the average person thinks the better.

          In your case you have clearly proven your own statement. LOL!

    • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 10:50 am #

      They are already begging for the “vaccine”

    • SoftStarLight May 5, 2020 at 11:12 am #

      I was out and about yesterday and I didn’t wear a face mask at all. I felt free and naughty lol!

      • GreenAlba May 5, 2020 at 11:34 am #

        I think you should get a medal for bravery. I’m in awe. And at your incredibly vulnerable age too.

        But if you unknowingly infected, say, a widowed mother of three with a compromised immune system that would be a bit shit. Especially with you having a Christian conscience an’ all.

        Not to worry, though, you got the chance to virtue signal so that’s what matters.

        I don’t wear a mask either when I’m ‘out and about’, just when I’m in shops. Gosh, it’s so darned demanding of those brain cells, it’s a wonder we cope.

        • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 1:15 pm #

          Just get a hijab and be done with it. You’ve already betrayed everything that made Britain, Britain.

          • GreenAlba May 5, 2020 at 1:57 pm #

            Britain being Britain doesn’t require numpties who can’t tell the difference between a voluntary face mask for a limited amount of time and the flippin’ Gulag. You have the self-awareness of a flea.

            Janis, the Fear Porn Merchant.

            And you don’t need a comma there, unless you think my name is Britain.

          • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 3:18 pm #

            You have the self-awareness of a flea.

            I think you’re being a bit tough on fleas.

          • SoftStarLight May 5, 2020 at 5:51 pm #

            Um its more like your brain is the size of a flea lol. Just kidding but gosh it was too funny to pass up. But really Alba it’s ok. Many other people were doing the same thing. And I noticed some people were taking precautions as they should feel very free to do. 🙂

      • JohnAZ May 5, 2020 at 11:37 am #

        Think in terms of zones that you want to become free of possible contamination by the virus and protect them. One, your body, two, your home, and three your cars.

    • Cargill May 5, 2020 at 3:44 pm #

      Firstly OANN beats up the issue, and then ben-dover ramps up the distortion. From the article:

      In a random study of N95 style masks coming in from Europe and Asia, 60 percent of mask styles were not able to filter at least 95 percent of airborne particulates. The study found a significant number of KN95 masks, which is the Chinese equivalent of the N95, performed far below the standard with some only filtering 30 percent of airborne particulates.

      My neighbour imports masks from China … he knows the KN95 – which is much cheaper – is nowhere near as good as a quality N95.

      But all of this has nothing to do with the fruitloop agenda on here (only the 50th this month): the pandemic is a beat-up to defeat Trump, the lock-down is unnecessary and worse than the disease, all the figures are cooked up the “deep[ state”, the death rates are trivially low, and masks are for sissies, commies, and other assorted Democrats.

      The lock-down worked to slow the spread of disease and death. Because the rates of disease and death were lower as a result of the lock-down, the lock-down was actually unnecessary.

      Can you believe the way these dumb-bunnies think? No logic LOL!

      • benr May 6, 2020 at 8:45 am #

        Look I got under third shift bot boys skin wooohooo.
        What a useless and ridiculous excuse for a troll.
        Nothing of value added to this site just mountains of ridiculous posts.

  78. JohnAZ May 5, 2020 at 10:51 am #

    Whitmer and Lemon show again this weekend that the Dems have a two word vocabulary, racism and Trump.

    The Dem dictionary is the shortest book in history.

    The irony of it is they are the source of the division and racism as they mine the resources of hatred and separation in the country.

    • sophia May 5, 2020 at 11:00 am #

      So true John. Once you understand that all they do is project, it becomes very easy to decode their intentions and feelings and deeds.

    • SoftStarLight May 5, 2020 at 11:13 am #

      Yep their demons! But what do you think of Sean Hannity’s capitulation?

      • JohnAZ May 5, 2020 at 11:42 am #

        Look at the big picture at Fox. Even Trump has started hitting the Fox folks. Like everything else, drifting left. There methodology is insidious, even the evening line up continuously shows the propaganda from the other networks, giving them additional exposure. Clever manipulation.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 1:42 pm #

        What happened? Get me back into the loop. Being out of it is unbearable!

        • SoftStarLight May 5, 2020 at 5:52 pm #

          I posted for you above. I really wanna know watchya think :-).

          • Janos Skorenzy May 6, 2020 at 12:03 am #

            Agree. He says, “Our police”, but that’s the question: Are they ours or the Elite’s? I say they’ll do what they’re told for the most part. So they better realize that’s there’s going to be push back and that THEY’RE the ones who are playing with fire by depriving people of life, liberty and the freedom to pursue happiness.

            As I understand it, Open carry is the actual right, and not concealed. They had the right and they exercised it. Case closed and message sent.

          • SoftStarLight May 6, 2020 at 12:30 am #

            Yeah and note that despite the citizens’ “show of force” there was no violence and ultimately no problems. Michigan is an open carry state. Many cops are actually on the side of the citizens but yes you do have those that will just do what their told Constitutional or not. But Hannity? I was shocked! Trump disagrees with him too. And that governor. Hopefully she can be recalled? I bet places like Detroit would get in the way of that.

  79. wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 10:56 am #

    From a nation of men made of steel to a nation of pussies in forty years. –benr

    Are you referring to men made of steel of the Greatest Generation, the one that left millions in Eastern Europe under control of Stalinist communism after four years of fighting? The ones who peed their US Army HBT pants on D-Day? The ones who carried out the greatest white-on-white violence of the 20th century? Many women prefer today’s sensitive feminist (not feminized) men. Just sayin’

    • benr May 5, 2020 at 11:04 am #

      Says the commie loving stooge.
      Honestly you change your spots so often except for your virulent hate of all things pax Americana!

    • BackRowHeckler May 5, 2020 at 12:20 pm #

      After polishing off 6 boxes of cheap wine Asoka mistakenly switched to the History Channel one night while watching TV with her 19 cats. The program was about D Day and the above post is her interpretation of it.


      • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 1:46 pm #

        I just spit out my Aldi Primitivo.

        • Iananna May 8, 2020 at 7:47 pm #

          That would be “spat” – how long ago did amerika lose the use of the past tense?
          It’s lack turned up in a Raymond Chandler I was recently reading, written in 1939.

  80. wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 11:02 am #

    “This is President Dipshit getting twitter-rage…” –majella

    Yeah, 1 a.m. twitter rage at Morning Joe. Why wasn’t he working on freeing the captured Americans in Venezuela?

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    • benr May 5, 2020 at 11:05 am #

      Speaking of dipshits try looking in the mirror you TDS afflicted buffoon.
      Keep getting angry maybe you can blame Trump for your heart attack when its Maga 2021 still.

      • wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 11:34 am #

        He is illegitimate, unfit for office, one-termer who lost the popular vote.

        Trump 62,984,828
        H R C 65,853,514

        • JohnAZ May 5, 2020 at 11:38 am #

          KMA, crybaby. Your whining about the electoral college is meaningless.

          • wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 12:08 pm #

            I did not mention the electoral college. I simply stated a fact: DJT lost the popular vote. DJT is a loser. Next time the Biden popular vote win will be so overwhelming (like it was in 2018 that put Pelosi in power) that DJT will lose again.

          • BackRowHeckler May 5, 2020 at 12:28 pm #

            The problem is Asoka you been complaining about the electoral college and Trump losing the popular vote for 3 1/2 years now. It didn’t matter then, it doesn’t matter now. For God’s sake come up with something new.


    • SoftStarLight May 5, 2020 at 11:15 am #

      Hmmmm, why are we so interested in protecting Joe? He is a big boy and can protect himself. Let’s practice what we preach and believe all experiences and feelings.

      • wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 11:40 am #

        Mourning in America


        Trump is a loser, by three million popular votes.

        • SoftStarLight May 5, 2020 at 5:55 pm #

          How many of those votes were from illegal aliens?

          • Majella May 5, 2020 at 9:03 pm #

            The same old trope…

          • SoftStarLight May 6, 2020 at 12:11 am #

            If its not broke don’t fix it. You say that and yet you don’t have an answer. How then can we know its not hundreds of thousands if not millions?

          • wpa_ccc May 6, 2020 at 1:06 am #

            Trump set up a commission to look into voter fraud. He didn’t find any and closed down the commission. So, according to Trump’s own “voter integrity” commission there were no illegal aliens voting. That is your answer. Do you doubt Trump?

          • benr May 6, 2020 at 8:56 am #

            See how the leftist turds talk about tropes yet their go to whine is about gerrymandering.

            Simple fact is illegal aliens are voting in larger numbers in at least two states California and New York.
            I can hear concerned readers asking how?
            The motor voter id act of Kalifornia of course within a month or two of enacting it the DMV was crowing about having signed up 800k new people to drive and vote.
            It has been several years imagine how many illegal aliens have signed up and the best part all they need to do so os a matricular consular card which Mexico will issue with zero checking into whether you are who you say you are.

            I see dunce Majella either does not care about the laws being broken or approves because these useful idiots will always vote themselves a pay check and benefits.

            Some sobering facts.

            One of every 15 California residents is an illegal immigrant.
            A majority of Californians (60%) believe that illegal

            Estimated 40 million californians!
            Do the math dunce if half of those people sign up on motor voter ID and vote!

            One of every 25 workers in the U.S. is an illegal immigrant—

            330 million people living in the US DO THE MATH!

            as are an estimated eight percent of California workers.
            The flow of illegal immigrants into the country is now greater than the flow of legal immigrants.

            Illegal aliens are voting in at least two states and in numbers the popular vote is being swayed towards the Democrats which also shows why they do not want to do anything to fix this huge problem because after all they will do and say anything to win
            Democrats are showing to be the actual enemies of a free America and our beloved Constitution.

          • Majella May 6, 2020 at 5:22 pm #

            Like I said…

          • Iananna May 8, 2020 at 7:44 pm #

            Trump’s “won” with 3M fewer votes than Clinton on an even lower than usual turnout (55.7% of 250M+ enrolled voters)
            His 62,984,828 votes were just under 25.2%.
            Clinton received 65,853,514 which is 26.9%.
            Not wildly impressive, compared to northern Euroland democracy but, hey, waddya gonna do?

  81. wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 12:13 pm #

    Janos says the protestors visited the governor with guns. Janos asked: what’s the next step.

    We now have the answer: She signed executive orders that put in place a new state of emergency through May 28.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 1:16 pm #

      That’s why she’s Governor Cunt.

  82. Q. Shtik May 5, 2020 at 1:27 pm #

    Saw a blurb/graphic on CNBC quoting Trump:

    “China should of warned us about virus.”

    I know the Prez isn’t Demosthenes but this really gets under my skin.

    • BackRowHeckler May 5, 2020 at 1:42 pm #

      That’s how they talk in Queens.

    • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 1:45 pm #

      It’s even worse when the critic can’t use a slash properly.

      • SoftStarLight May 5, 2020 at 5:56 pm #


    • BackRowHeckler May 5, 2020 at 1:48 pm #

      A tenured Marxist bullshitter from NYU would have said it a different way, Q.

  83. JohnAZ May 5, 2020 at 1:30 pm #

    Watching the news. New models being generated by J. Hopkins says many many more deaths by the virus over the next month. My feelers are twitching again. Control by fear being practiced.

    As I said before, we are doing whatever we can to protect our bodies, our house and our car from any incursion by an entrance source no matter how minute the chance. Nothing comes in without disinfection of some sort. All these rules being generated? Simple, put a sphere around yourself, house etc. and do not let anything in. If you have to leave your protected sphere, protect yourself as much as possible and disinfect before entering your protected space.

    This requires a change in lifestyle. I wonder if after the pandemic ends, if it does, a permanent change to a more protection oriented way of living might protect us from all sorts of bugs.

    • JohnAZ May 5, 2020 at 1:36 pm #

      The Dems want this economy shut down as much as possible until November. Remember Bill Maher. Their goal is to increase government control of as much as possible, that is why Pelosi wants the next bailout to go to state and local governments. I will give it to them, they are good at this crisis management for their advancement.

      • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 1:57 pm #

        The Next Normal is the full on destruction of the middle class.

        It is for your safety.

      • wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 2:04 pm #

        “Their goal is to increase government control of as much as possible…” –JohnAZ

        Democrats want to protect American lives. If you see that as “government control,” then you can protest. Go out without a mask. Volunteer in a nursing home without a mask. Do volunteer work with a local prison, in close contact with prisoners, without a mask. You will be a free man… until you die… but the damn Democrats won’t have fooled you!

        Trump started a trade war with China. Then he praised Chinese leadership for being “transparent” and ignored all the briefings in January about the threat of the virus. He didn’t want to panic the market. It’s only one person from China infected, Trump said. Then in February: it’s only 15 people infected and will soon go to zero, Trump said. Then in March Trump said everything will be fine, he has it totally under control (still trying to not scare the markets). Then in April Trump said it would go away like magic with the warm weather. Then in May Trump squashed the doctors and scientists and ordered them not to talk to Congress. The economy is going to bounce back in an amazing recovery Trump said. Inject some Lysol. “It’s just a suggestion”

        Trump has met his match. The deplorables were conned. The virus cannot be bullshitted.

        Trump can “re-open” all the businesses and sports stadiums he wants, but he cannot force people to go back to “normal” activities, he cannot, through force of will, bring the economy back to life, until he actually uses his power (DPA) to deal with this public health crisis.

        All Trump’s press briefings use future tense verbs. We “will” be producing diagnostic tests soon. We “will” be sending PPE soon. That kind of bullshitting will not work any more as the cadavers pile up and get stuck into unrefrigerated U-Haul trucks outside funeral homes.

        • Q. Shtik May 5, 2020 at 4:51 pm #

          as the cadavers pile up… – wpa


          like cord wood.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 1:49 pm #

      You know you are being herded yet you move along anyway. Alas Christianity encourages this, calling us sheep. The Lapps told the missionaries they hated this image saying, The only time we herd anything is when we plan to slaughter them.

      Observe boyz and girlz: He knows and he doesn’t know from one second to the next. Double think induced by Fear Porn. In its classical forms, the conscious dichotomy ends, and the False triumphs. Then the person will defend the false with all their strength as Alba does with the rise of the British Caliphate, Maj and Cargill, the Chinese Antipodean Commonwealth, and BRH, the Capitalism/Communist Alliance against the Axis Powers – even though he knows well how horrible the latter was.

      • GreenAlba May 5, 2020 at 1:54 pm #

        Janos, your efforts are worth of an honorary doctorate in Fear Porn. It’s your stock in trade.

        • GreenAlba May 5, 2020 at 1:54 pm #


          • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 1:59 pm #

            Worthy is the lamb that is slain. Lord, protect thy lamb. You died in my place. If I must die, make it so that the people may live.

        • Nightowl May 5, 2020 at 2:00 pm #

          Is she wearing a Coroneau Mask while typing?

          That is a requirement when spreading Fear Porn.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 2:40 pm #

        Communist/Capitalist – the good cop/bad cop of nascent New World Order. Yet the “good guys” turned over their White Russian allies to the Russian Communists – to imprisonment, labor, and almost certain death. Over a hundred thousand of them in Operation Keelhaul. Now how “good” could such people be? The mask came off revealing the horror underneath.

        Does BRH care? No – he worships power. My country right or wrong. I gave him the corrected form: My Country right or wrong. If right, to be kept right. If wrong, to be put right. He didn’t respond. He “always roots for the home team” – in other words, he worships power. Yet he is an ally against the Satanists. White Nationalism has failed, at least for now, and we have to go with the Zionists and Christian Zionists, as galling as that is to the spirit. The Beasts from the Pit have arisen and are intending to take down our Civilization RIGHT NOW. Any port in this storm – any Ally, Blacks, Browns, and Yellows welcome.

      • malthuss May 6, 2020 at 11:49 am #

        sheep or kids [baby goats].

  84. Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 2:04 pm #

    Elon Musk is tweeting his outrage: Give us back our Freedom. This is Fascism.

    He is with us: Thwack, Akmo, Janos, Elon – all Apes together, strong. He is a new Father by his sweet Lady, Grimes. He seems to be selling his homes and downgrading his company, saying that the stock was too high. He wants to lead us. If he becomes President, we will have Grimes as First Lady.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 2:06 pm #

      In 2018, Elon tweeted, Who do you think owns the media?

      He knows. Only Knowers can lead us now….

    • wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 2:32 pm #

      Always looking outside for a savior, Janos, and always disappointed when they turn out to not be fascist enough for you. Grimes says Elon is much like Bernie.

      But Bernie is not a national socialist. Bernie has an explicitly global understanding of the United States’ world role. For him, the purpose of US foreign policy is not to reaffirm US “leadership,” but to create “a global community in which people have the decent jobs, food, clean water, education, health care and housing they need.”

      Globalism is the future. Born in Africa, globalist Elon Musk says robots will replace humans. You sure you want to be backing an African-born globalist with “too much magic” dreams of robots?

      • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 2:43 pm #

        Our Robot warriors will hack your robots to pieces. We follow the Orange Bible’s injunction: You shall not make a machine in the image of the human mind.

        • wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 3:07 pm #

          Tell it to Elon, your new hero.

    • BackRowHeckler May 5, 2020 at 3:38 pm #

      Who’s Grimes?

      Hows her gams?

      Just a little gangster talk there.

      Hey a black bear just walked thru the property, lingered a bit, then moved on.


  85. Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 2:55 pm #

    Lady Grimes performs her song, “Oblivion”.


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  86. Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 3:01 pm #

    Rush: In Virginia, people who test positive are being called “cases”. So assuming this practice is widespread, of course the stats are booming and are going to continue to boom. After all, everyone is going to get it more or less.

    Needless to say, most people assume “case” means someone who is sick enough to be admitted to the hospital. Pure trickery.

    • wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 3:03 pm #

      Janos, case means someone able to transmit the virus to others, some of whom will become sick enough to be admitted to the hospital.

      No trickery, except on the part of Rush.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 3:16 pm #

        Exactly what I’ve been saying. Thus do you pathologize the whole population.

        Next trend (already starting): Show the Elite ignoring all this crap. I mean you don’t really believe this is for them, do you? Don’t be so fucking stupid.

        • wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 4:02 pm #

          Tell who “the Elite” are in your mind? Reptiles? Lizards? Robots under control of Orange Man Bad.

          • benr May 6, 2020 at 9:01 am #

            A better question is who do you think they are?

  87. Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 3:31 pm #


    One scheme being considered in Scotland and the UK is the bubble theory. You’ll get to be friendly and relax social distancing with a maximum of ten people. But it always has to be the same ten or what’s the point. But how to enforce it? The honor system? Well that would work with Alba, but most people are less “principled” and more human. It’s going to have to be tracking. If you break up with a friend, you’ll have to let the authorities know and then inform them when you find another one for your bubble.

    Alba will probably ask, What’s not to like? Just as she does with Muslim immigration, even though she can’t explain why. I can though: her will is to do the Will of her Masters.

  88. Pucker May 5, 2020 at 3:36 pm #

    Do you know where I can buy a copy of the Wuhan Institute of Virology Miss Shi Zhengli’s Chinese cookbook of “Home-style” dishes?

    • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 3:40 pm #

      You bat shit cwazy.

      Early in the “crisis”, a social influencer filmed herself licking a toilet on a plane she was on.

      • CancelMyCard May 5, 2020 at 7:16 pm #

        You think he is batshit crazy.

        You are the single most batshit crazy person on this forum.



        here knows it.

        You are the most wacky person here,

        and it is Amazing that JHK indulges you so far.

        Maybe you’ve got something on him,

        • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 7:42 pm #

          Maybe he believes in the First Amendment? Unlike you….

          • CancelMyCard May 5, 2020 at 8:00 pm #

            Believe me,
            I’m an upright 1st Amendment patriot,

            Which means, as you may possibly remember . . .

            I may disagree completely with what you have to say,

            (as the utter complete a**hole that you are)

            But I will defend it to the death,

            your right to say it.


          • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 10:23 pm #

            So why did you say what you said? Are you projecting your inner evil Liberal onto JHK? How creepy is that?

          • benr May 6, 2020 at 9:03 am #

            Unless someone proves to be an impediment or disruptive.
            I can think fo at least two or three people who come here solely to dish on about things that have zero to do with the actual topic posted.

  89. Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 3:37 pm #

    Next stage: The rise of secret or underground clubs as in Prohibition. And a whole new class of people will become revolutionaries – and develop an unspeakable loathing for those trying to control them. Partiers, Druggies, and Swingers have been the apple of the Elite’s eye for a long time. Now they’re thrown under the bus? Well, not so fast or easy.

    Are you gonna keeps Gays from gaying? Maybe not: Fauci said it’s up to you if you want to meet your tinders. But close the Churches! Maybe they’ll make an exception for Gays? There’s going to be hell to pay either way.

  90. BackRowHeckler May 5, 2020 at 3:41 pm #

    “She slowly and methodically revealed one of her glorious gams.” — Ernest Hemingway

    That’s what I’m talking about.


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    • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 3:53 pm #

      True. No all those who serve Evil are evil. They don’t know. They serve the good that they know and the good they think they see. Sailors said the faces of the Kamikaze pilots were etched in ecstasy. They were in Union (samadhi) with that which is called “Japan” – their beloved homeland, the best that they knew, their god. The greatest good that they knew. Just so you and America, symbolized by Marilyn Monroe’s big soft (but firm) legs. Or Alba and her loyalty to Britain, utterly distorted though it be. And beyond that, to the New World Order and its so called humanism and environmentalism.

      The people at Jonestown obeyed their savior, their good, whom they thought to be a very great man or even Christ himself. Are they damned for this? How could they be? I’ve always found this a fascinating moral question….

      • sophia May 5, 2020 at 8:14 pm #

        For God’s sake Janos, are you really a believing Catholic?
        No reincarnation?

        • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 10:30 pm #

          You are putting too fine an edge on here, I have a number of sub-personalities, some of them are orthodox Christian. In any case, all the Traditions teach of states of unspeakable pain where the soul is purified.

          • sophia May 6, 2020 at 1:04 pm #


            Why not a big O? It would improve you. No, so far as I know, the Orthodox Church does not speak of uspeakable pain. But it is interesting that other traditions, such as Hindus and Buddhism, do speak of such things, albeit not eternal.

            But your question re Jonestown. For one thing, there is evidence that the whole thing was some weird, perhaps CIA, experiment and that the people were trying to escape and were hunted down.

            For another thing, it is my (sad) conclusion that one of the big lessons we have to learn here is not to be gullible. Children are gullible and adults are too. The point is to stop being childish. It’s a difficult lesson as it goes against the grain, which is to stay with the herd/troop and follow the authorities.

            Being gullible might not seem like a great sin, but the road to hell is paved with good intentions. It isn’t a sin of commission, just immaturity, and perhaps laziness. Of course they don’t go to hell for being gullible.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 6, 2020 at 1:36 pm #

            Ok, to some of that, but address my main point: How wrong are people who fight unknowingly for a bad cause? The Japanese pilots were in Samadhi (of course I think their cause was just) and so are, no doubt, the Jihadis as they scream. Allahu Akbar before blowing themselves up (don’t agree with them).

            Those who deified Jones may have been fools, but probably many of them were good people otherwise.

          • sophia May 7, 2020 at 10:56 am #


            Ok, to some of that, but address my main point: How wrong are people who fight unknowingly for a bad cause?

            We have a lot of that going on right now. If this bizarre situation we are in does turn out to be round one of an international power grab leading to dystopia, then it means that half the people I know are fully cooperating with it. So how guilty are people who have been lied to? Lying isn’t that hard.

            No, I don’t think the guilt is strong. People are deluded fairly easily. Lying is quite an art. But if you want to graduate, a certain amount of wisdom is required. And I think wisdom has few shortcuts. Mostly it takes time to gather experience, then you are not so easily fooled. Why do you think that dictators and other totalitarians use very young men to do their dirty work?

            It seems to me that in order to go to heaven and not have to come back, the lesson of nongullibility and the moral compass are perhaps closely aligned. That way, even if you are caught up in some lie, such as coronavirus panic, and you are a police officer, and you have free reign to trample people, but you have a clear moral compass, you will be the cop who refrains.

            People do bad things and support bad causes, in part, because they do not have a clear moral compass. They do not really understand right and wrong. If you cloak the actions you want from them in some narrative, they lose sight of the fact that certain things are wrong. That too takes time. Thus reincarnation.

  91. wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 4:16 pm #

    We are on our own. Trump is shutting down the corona virus task force. Reminds me of when W shut down the Bin Laden desk. We had to wait for Obama to get Bin Laden. We’ll have to wait for Biden to use DPA and solve the public health crisis. DJT has just lost the election by ignoring the pandemic.

    • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 4:19 pm #

      Thank you Sweet Mountain Jesus. Guide your Servant, Trump, again and again.

  92. Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 4:17 pm #

    I much prefer BRH’s uncorrected America, my country right or wrong to the Leftist, America, not my country and always wrong. There’s no hope in that at all, nothing except bugs to squash as their Leftist dictators always do. They demand patriotism after all!

    The Communists are terrified of BRH just as the Gays are of Pence. Wage Laborer knew his type, their yes maams and no sirs, didn’t fool her at all. She knew a threat when she saw it.

    • Q. Shtik May 5, 2020 at 5:17 pm #

      Wage Laborer knew his type – Janos


      WOW, it must be going on a decade since we heard from WL. If I remember right she was a nurse. Wonder if she’s on the front line…and still alive.

  93. BackRowHeckler May 5, 2020 at 5:00 pm #

    I’m listening to Miranda Lambert ‘Time to get a Gun’. What an angel! Let me try to get this link right. Oh just Google it, you won’t be sorry.

    I’m beating this virus with sunlight (vitamin D) OJ (Vitamin C) and vodka (vitamin X) Nobody here sick yet. I could hole up in this compound for 5 years it wouldn’t bother me. Yeah I’m getting on my wife’s nerves drinking vodka for breakfast and not shaving much, ‘ …but hey, that’s quarantine baby’.


    • malthuss May 5, 2020 at 9:04 pm #

      I am listening to Jeremiah Babe.

      You are a frisky old guy. vodka (vitamin X) ……

  94. Q. Shtik May 5, 2020 at 5:12 pm #

    He seems to be selling his homes and downgrading his company – Janos


    Yeah, and Elon’s compensation for the Qtr is $700 million for making his numbers.

  95. mrmiller May 5, 2020 at 5:16 pm #

    Wait, what? Re-engineer the economy to be more resilient and less prone to catastrophic failure? FA Hayek is rolling in his grave somewhere. “The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little he understands about the systems he thinks he can design.” Ergo, we shall choose to sit on our hands and do nothing, apparently.

    The banshees screaming about ‘socialism’ have won the day, neigh, the past several decades. The end result is America falling off the edge of a cliff for no good reason, because Americans are so scared of socialism that they soil themselves at even the slightest whiff of it.

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  96. wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 5:18 pm #

    It will take several weeks for the effects of re-openings to emerge. Trump is about to lose his biggest gamble. Shutting down the task force and ignoring the pandemic is his dumbest move yet. In that ignorance, Trump is choosing to crash the economy and destroy the nation. As brh says every year, it’s gonna be a long hot summer, a perfect prelude to Biden’s win in November.

    • benr May 5, 2020 at 5:50 pm #

      More delusional ravings from one of the hangers on in the dunce circle.

      • CancelMyCard May 5, 2020 at 8:04 pm #

        “one of the hangers on in the dunce circle.”

        That’s a good one!

        Hope you don’t mind if I use that in my rants?

      • Majella May 5, 2020 at 9:39 pm #

        benr – remember that you made this foolish remark when, by the end of May,

        > the ‘identified cases’ number tops 10 million,
        > new infections balloon out to 10 x current daily 20,000+ to in excess of 200,000 per day, and
        > total deaths hit 200,000 with no sign of it letting up.

        • benr May 6, 2020 at 10:06 am #

          What makes you “THINK” any of those number are going to be reality since NONE of the other numbers have been even close!

          How ever my comment was about Biden winning in November.
          My educated guess is that Biden will be out on his butt by then and Holy crap if that let that demented fool have a debate with Trump he will get eaten alive.
          Biden of today is not the same guy as when he was debating that horrid rino Paul Ryan.

  97. Q. Shtik May 5, 2020 at 5:36 pm #

    He (Musk) wants to lead us. If he becomes President, we will have Grimes as First Lady. – Janos


    He’s 16 years her senior. It won’t last.

    • Q. Shtik May 5, 2020 at 5:42 pm #

      It won’t last. – Q.


      In support I offer the following:

      Musk has had a stormy personal life at times. He’s been through two divorces and is estranged from his father, who made headlines in 2018 after it was reported he had a child with his 30-year-old former stepdaughter, Jana Bezuidenhout.

    • benr May 5, 2020 at 5:52 pm #

      Elon can’t be President he does not even have the one American parent that shoe horned the last resident in the whitehouse into office.
      Nope not without changing the Constitution.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 6:38 pm #

        If Obama could get in, we’ll simply insist and release the documents proving his Kenyan birth. Someone must have them. Maybe Russia…..

        • CancelMyCard May 5, 2020 at 8:07 pm #

          Ah, Janos,

          you have them.

  98. wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 7:00 pm #

    Absolute Clusterf–k’: Inside the Denial and Dysfunction of Trump’s Coronavirus Task Force

    Missed warnings, conflicting messages, and broken promises — how the White House fumbled its response to the worst pandemic in a century … Described in Rolling Stone article:


    • Majella May 5, 2020 at 7:18 pm #

      I see from JHU that, after a couple of days of death stats in the 1,500 range, the USA has once again cracked 2,200. Good job it only takes out ‘Libruls’ and other ‘commies’, huh.

      • Janos Skorenzy May 5, 2020 at 7:36 pm #

        People die everyday in a place this big. It’s no big deal – not like the coming famine in India. Thought you cared about people? You can’t close down the world and then not have calamity. Can you try a bit harder, Gal?

        Some old folks are going to die. They’re ready if they’re real Christians.

        • Majella May 5, 2020 at 8:07 pm #

          Callous arsehole.

          • Janos Skorenzy May 6, 2020 at 1:42 pm #

            It’s true. You haven’t seen much of life nor thought much about it either – obviously.

            The young Kisa Gotami came to the Buddha with her dead child, demanding the he bring him back to life. He said Ok, but first go get mustard seeds from a home where no one has died. She knocked on every door in the City but could find no such home. She admitted her failure to the Buddha and he said, Likewise I cannot raise your child. Death conquers all in this realm and every realm.

        • sophia May 5, 2020 at 8:07 pm #

          Why do you think there will be famine in India? They only locked down for 3 weeks.

        • CancelMyCard May 5, 2020 at 8:10 pm #

          “Some old folks are going to die.”

          Maybe you soon?


          • Janos Skorenzy May 6, 2020 at 12:06 am #

            You need to loosen your hijab – it’s effecting your thought process to the extent you ever had one that is.

    • Majella May 5, 2020 at 8:06 pm #

      Great article. Succinctly put, especially the last sentence -therein lies the greatest issue, just how President Chlorox has ‘infected’ the response process.

      If you were to write a playbook for how not to prevent a public-health crisis, you would study the work of the Trump administration in the first three months of 2020. The Trump White House, through some combination of ignorance, arrogance, and incompetence, failed to heed the warnings of its own experts. It failed to listen to the projections of one of its own economic advisers. It failed to take seriously what has become the worst pandemic since the 1918 flu and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression. And when the White House finally awoke to the seriousness of COVID-19, the response it mustered managed to contain all the worst traits of this presidency. Trump and his closest aides have ignored scientists, enlisted family members and TV personalities and corporate profiteers for help, and disregarded every protocol for how to communicate during a pandemic while spewing misinformation and lies.

  99. Pucker May 5, 2020 at 7:27 pm #

    “Grandpa died from Covid 19, a Chinese-made, NIH-funded bioweapon.”

    • wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 7:40 pm #

      In fiscal year 2019, the NIH funding for the Wuhan Institute of Virology was $76,301.

      Who was president in 2019?

      Pucker, you are saying Trump is responsible for putting NIH funding into his budget to create a bioweapon that has killed 70,000 Americans.

      • benr May 6, 2020 at 9:10 am #

        Another ridiculous statement in error!
        Tell us dunce who is responsible for funding things in these United States and I will give you a HINT not the President!

        insert game show music with a hug buzzer at time out period.

        Don’t know???
        Of course not you’re an idiot who only wants to score points by saying everything and anything to make orange man bad look bad.

        Congress you dunce and WHO has the majority in Congress oh my why the Democrats and none other than Nancy Pelosi whoops now you have some serious EGG on your face.

        Look at that now you really look moronic I hope your handlers do not see you getting hung by your own retard I mean petard.

        You should give it up wpa_ccc most everything you post is crap and very easy to refute with minimal work.

        • Q. Shtik May 6, 2020 at 2:23 pm #

          hoist, not hung

          • benr May 7, 2020 at 10:16 am #

            I prefer HUNG

          • Q. Shtik May 7, 2020 at 12:33 pm #

            I prefer HUNG – benr


            If you prefer ‘hung’ then you don’t understand what a petard is… but, whatever.

      • Nightowl May 6, 2020 at 11:04 am #

        Twuump cweated a bioweapon to kill us all!

  100. wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 7:47 pm #

    In Trump’s America millions of Americans have lost their jobs. It is virtually impossible for any rational person to defend a system that ties health care to employment status — a system that prioritizes its own profits over the needs and well-being of the American people.

    In the middle of this coronavirus emergency, up to 35 million Americans are expected to lose their health coverage because they received it through their employer-sponsored plan. In the United States, unlike any other major country in the world, when you lose your job, you lose your health care. That is absurd.

    The Democrats should have listened to Bernie … to make America great again.

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    • CancelMyCard May 5, 2020 at 8:16 pm #


      There is a time to accept and realize that

      the average USA citizen is not

      of the finest material.

      You pays your money and
      you takes

      your chances.

      Life’s a bitch, pretty much

      most of the time.

      That’s a part of

      Zen, I think.

    • BackRowHeckler May 6, 2020 at 9:12 am #

      Where is Bernie, he isn’t exactly out front anymore, even tho he still is a sitting US Senator? Maybe the Dem party bought him yet another house in some tropical location … Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands, who knows?


      • benr May 6, 2020 at 10:02 am #

        Who cares as long as that 80 year old commie shuts up and goes away.

  101. tucsonspur May 5, 2020 at 7:55 pm #

    Americans take care of their own. Plus, Favre scores!


    American deceptionalism at work. In this case, to line one’s pockets. I googled it and yes, it is in use.

    Here’s a take:


    • Majella May 5, 2020 at 9:19 pm #

      Speaking to that, Janis recommended “The China Hustle”, thinking it was an indictment of Chinese business practices.

      However, it reflects even more poorly on the American business/banking interests feeding off the meagre wealth of US citizens saving for retirement. Appalling.

  102. Majella May 5, 2020 at 9:25 pm #

    Great. Another ‘whistleblower’ for NigIQwl et al to smear and denigrate:


  103. wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 9:27 pm #

    “People die everyday…” –janos

    Yes, of a multitude of causes. But not 3,000 deaths a day from one cause: corona virus. We have one 9/11 every day with Trump. He should be charged with involuntary manslaughter.

    • Majella May 5, 2020 at 9:31 pm #

      Not ‘involuntary manslaughter’. It’s ‘negligent homicide’.

      • wpa_ccc May 5, 2020 at 9:35 pm #

        OK. It’s a crime and Trump should be prosecuted. Rarely is someone accused of negligent homicide responsible for 3,000 deaths a day.

        • akmofo May 5, 2020 at 10:39 pm #

          The deliberate criminal originator and distributor of this plague, the sole responsible for the economic devastation it has caused, the devastating loss of life and suffering caused by this plague, is CHINA!!

          CHINA will be held criminally responsible and it will be made to pay FULL REPARATIONS to the world for this act of war!! This is not the first time China has unleashed a viral plague on the world. This is just the latest in such multiple acts of criminality by China. These acts of wars by China will be met by war and total economic and political isolation of China.

          • Majella May 5, 2020 at 11:36 pm #

            Maybe you can get them to py for The Wall, too.

          • Majella May 5, 2020 at 11:36 pm #


          • SoftStarLight May 6, 2020 at 12:02 am #

            Your animosity about the Wall is sad. You simply can’t imagine America having complete control of its borders and therefore you are an enemy.

          • Majella May 6, 2020 at 1:29 am #

            ‘Animosity about the wall’? Sorry, SSL, it’s hilarity – utter & unbounded hilarity, and to see you STILL banging on about illegal voters is almost as funny.

            “The Wall” and “Who will pay for it” while it remains tight up there among his most farcical unkept promises, is now buried under a huge steaming pile of his other bullshit as to really not even be worth mentioning.

            I can see why GA is constantly lamenting your lack of a sense of humour. Sad.

            You’re also very loose with how you use ‘therefore’. I have no gripe with Americans, per se, but with President Chlorox, it’s simply unavoidable. As I said often enough hereabouts, I have ALWAYS found Himself to be a low-grade shyster & a pompous arse, way LONG before 2015 & his opening salvo in his ‘perfomance art’ campaign, and his accidental presidency.

          • BackRowHeckler May 6, 2020 at 9:06 am #

            “I have no gripe with Americans, per se … ” — Majella

            Phew, I’m relieved, I thought you didn’t like us.

            Altho I find that hard to believe since you and your partner Cargill spend the better parts of your day hammering America and Americans.


          • benr May 6, 2020 at 9:14 am #

            When has the kiwi ever said a kind word about America or Americans unless it was about another America hating person like Hillary or Bernie who want to fundamentally change America into a third world Socialist’s cesspool.

  104. akmofo May 5, 2020 at 9:37 pm #

    Dossier lays out case against China bat virus program

    Sharri Markson, The Daily Telegraph
    May 4, 2020 12:21am

    China deliberately suppressed or destroyed evidence of the coronavirus outbreak in an “assault on international transparency’’ that cost tens of thousands of lives, according to a dossier prepared by concerned Western governments on the COVID-19 contagion.

    The 15-page research document, obtained by The Saturday Telegraph, lays the foundation for the case of negligence being mounted against China.

    It states that to the “endangerment of other countries” the Chinese government covered-up news of the virus by silencing or “disappearing” doctors who spoke out, destroying evidence of it in laboratories and refusing to provide live samples to international scientists who were working on a vaccine.

    The P4 laboratory at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in Wuhan in China’s central Hubei province.

    It can also be revealed the Australian government trained and funded a team of Chinese scientists who belong to a laboratory which went on to genetically modify deadly coronaviruses that could be transmitted from bats to humans and had no cure, and is now the subject of a probe into the origins of COVID-19.

    As intelligence agencies investigate whether the virus inadvertently leaked from a Wuhan laboratory, the team and its research led by scientist Shi Zhengli feature in the dossier prepared by Western governments that points to several studies they conducted as areas of concern.

    It cites their work discovering samples of coronavirus from a cave in the Yunnan province with striking genetic similarity to COVID-19, along with their research synthesising a bat-derived coronavirus that could not be treated.

    Its major themes include the “deadly denial of human-to-human transmission”, the silencing or “disappearing” of doctors and scientists who spoke out, the destruction of evidence of the virus from genomic studies laboratories, and “bleaching of wildlife market stalls”, along with the refusal to provide live virus samples to international scientists working on a vaccine.

    Key figures of the Wuhan Institute of Virology team, who feature in the government dossier, were either trained or employed in the CSIRO’s Australian Animal Health Laboratory where they conducted foundational research on deadly pathogens in live bats, including SARS, as part of an ongoing partnership between the CSIRO and the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

    This partnership continues to this day, according to the website of the Wuhan ­Institute of Virology, despite concerns the research is too risky.

    Politicians in the Morrison government are speaking out about the national security and biosecurity concerns of this relationship as the controversial research into bat-related viruses now comes into sharp focus amid the investigation by the Five Eyes intelligence agencies of the United States, Australia, NZ, Canada and the UK.

    Prime Minister Scott Morrison is speaking out in the interests of national security and biosecurity.


    In Wuhan, in China’s Hubei province, not far from the now infamous Wuhan wet market, Dr Shi and her team work in high-protective gear in level-three and level-four bio-containment laboratories studying deadly bat-derived coronaviruses.

    At least one of the ­estimated 50 virus samples Dr Shi has in her laboratory is a 96 per cent genetic match to COVID-19. When Dr Shi heard the news about the outbreak of a new ­pneumonia-like virus, she spoke about the sleepless nights she suffered worrying whether it was her lab that was responsible for the outbreak.

    As she told Scientific American magazine in an article published this week: “Could they have come from our lab?” Since her initial fears, Dr Shi has satisfied herself the genetic sequence of COVID-19 did not match any her lab was studying.

    Yet, given the extent of the People’s Republic of China’s lies, obfuscations and angry refusal to allow any investigation into the origin of the outbreak, her laboratory is now being closely looked at by international intelligence agencies.

    The Australian government’s position is that the virus most likely originated in the Wuhan wet market but that there is a remote possibility — a 5 per cent chance — it accidentally leaked from a laboratory.

    The US’s position, according to reports this week, is that it is more likely the virus leaked from a laboratory but it could also have come from a wet market that trades and slaughters wild animals, where other diseases including the H5N1 avian flu and SARS originated.


    The Western governments’ research paper confirms this.

    It notes a 2013 study conducted by a team of researchers, including Dr Shi, who collected a sample of horseshoe bat faeces from a cave in Yunnan province, China, which was later found to contain a virus 96.2 per cent identical to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that caused COVID-19.

    The research dossier also references work done by the team to synthesise SARS-like coronaviruses, to analyse whether they could be transmissible from bats to mammals. This means they were altering parts of the virus to test whether it was transmissible to different species.

    Their November 2015 study, done in conjunction with the University of North Carolina, concluded that the SARS-like virus could jump directly from bats to humans and there was no treatment that could help.

    The study acknowledges the incredible danger of the work they were conducting.

    “The potential to prepare for and mitigate future outbreaks must be weighed against the risk of creating more dangerous pathogens,” they wrote.

    You have to be a scientist to understand it, but below is the line that the governments’ research paper references from the study.

    “To examine the emergence potential (that is, the potential to infect humans) of circulating bat CoVs, we built a chimeric virus encoding a novel, zoonotic CoV spike protein — from the RsSHCO14-CoV sequence that was isolated from Chinese horseshoe bats — in the context of the SARS-CoV mouse-adapted backbone,” the study states.

    One of Dr Shi’s co-authors on that paper, Professor Ralph Baric from North Carolina University, said in an interview with Science Daily at the time: “This virus is highly pathogenic and treatments developed against the original SARS virus in 2002 and the ZMapp drugs used to fight ebola fail to neutralise and control this particular virus.”

    President Xi Jinping waves to a coronavirus patient and medical staff via a video link at the Huoshenshan hospital in Wuhan on March 10. Picture: Xie Huanchi/XINHUA/AFP
    A few years later, in March 2019, Dr Shi and her team, including Peng Zhou, who worked in Australia for five years, published a review ­titled Bat Coronaviruses in China in the medical journal Viruses, where they wrote that they “aim to predict virus hot spots and their cross-species transmission potential”, describing it as a matter of “urgency to study bat corona­viruses in China to understand their potential of causing another outbreak. Their review stated: “It is highly likely that future SARS or MERS like coronavirus outbreaks will originate from bats, and there is an increased probability that this will occur in China.”

    It examined which proteins were “important for interspecies transmission”.

    Despite intelligence probes into whether her laboratory may have been responsible for the outbreak, Dr Shi is not hitting pause on her research, which she argues is more important than ever in preventing a pandemic. She plans to head a national project to systemically sample viruses in bat caves, with estimates that there are more than 5000 coronavirus strains “waiting to be discovered in bats globally”.

    “Bat-borne coronaviruses will cause more outbreaks,” she told Scientific American. “We must find them before they find us.”


    Dr Shi, the director of the Centre for Emerging Infectious Diseases at the Chinese Academy of Sciences’ Wuhan Institute of Virology, spent time in Australia as a ­visiting scientist for three months from February 22 to May 21, 2006, where she worked at the CSIRO’s top-level Australian Animal Health Laboratory, which has recently been ­renamed.

    The CSIRO would not comment on what work she undertook during her time here, but an archived and translated biography on the Wuhan Institute of Virology website states that she was working with the SARS virus.

    “The SARS virus antibodies and genes were tested in the State Key Laboratory of Virology in Wuhan and the Animal Health Research Laboratory in Geelong, Australia,” it states.

    The Telegraph has obtained two photographs of her working at the CSIRO laboratories, including in the level-four lab, in 2006.

    Shi Zhengli, director of the Centre for Emerging Infectious Diseases at the Chinese Academy of Sciences’ Wuhan Institute of Virology, who working in Australia in 2006.
    Dr Shi’s protégé, Peng Zhou — now the head of the Bat Virus Infection and Immunity Project at the Wuhan Institute of Virology — spent three years at the bio-containment facility Australian Animal Health Laboratory between 2011 and 2014. He was sent by China to complete his doctorate at the CSIRO from 2009-2010.

    During this time, Dr Zhou arranged for wild-caught bats to be transported alive by air from Queensland to the lab in Victoria where they were euthanised for dissection and studied for deadly viruses.

    Dr Linfa Wang, while an Honorary Professor of the Wuhan Institute of Virology between 2005 and 2011, also worked in the CSIRO Office of the Chief Executive Science Leader in Virology between 2008 and 2011.

    Federal Liberal Senator Sarah Henderson said it was “very concerning” that Chinese scientists had been conducting research into bat viruses at the CSIRO in Geelong, Victoria, in jointly funded projects between the Australian and Chinese governments.

    “We need to exercise extreme care with any research projects involving foreign nationals which may compromise our national security or biosecurity,” she said.

    While the US has cut all funding to the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the CSIRO would not respond to ­questions about whether it is still collaborating with it, saying only that it collaborates with research organisations from around the world to prevent diseases.

    “As with all partners, CSIRO undertakes due diligence and takes security very seriously,” a spokesman said. “CSIRO undertakes all research in accordance with strict biosecurity and legislative requirements.”


    The US withdrew funding from controversial experiments that make pathogens more potent or likely to spread dangerous viruses in October 2014, concerned it could lead to a global pandemic.

    The pause on funding for 21 “gain of function” studies was then lifted in December 2017.

    Despite the concerns, the CSIRO continued to partner and fund research with the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

    The CSIRO refused to respond to questions from The Saturday Telegraph about how much money went into joint research collaboration with the Chinese Academy of Science and its Wuhan Institute of Virology.

    The Wuhan Institute still lists the CSIRO as a partner while the US has cut ties since the coronavirus outbreak.

    The argument is whether it is worth developing these viruses to anticipate and prevent a pandemic when a leak of the virus could also cause one. Debate in the scientific community is heated.

    There have also been serious concerns about a lack of adequate safety practices at the Wuhan Institute of Virology when dealing with deadly viruses.

    A ‘‘Sensitive but Unclassified’’ cable, dated January 19, 2018, obtained by The Washington Post, revealed that US embassy scientists and diplomats in Beijing visited the laboratory and sent warnings back to Washington about inadequate safety practices and management weaknesses as it conducted research on coronaviruses from bats.

    “During interactions with scientists at the WIV laboratory, they noted the new lab has a serious shortage of ­appropriately trained technicians and investigators needed to safely operate this high-containment laboratory,” the cable stated.

    Australian Animal Health Laboratory, in East Geelong, is part of the CSIRO.


    Scientific consensus is that the virus came from a wetmarket. But the US’s top spy agency confirmed on the record for the first time yesterday that the US intelligence committee is investigating whether COVID-19 was the result of an accident at a Wuhan laboratory.

    The Office of the Director of National Intelligence acting director Richard Grenell said the virus was not created in a laboratory.

    “The entire Intelligence Community has been consistently providing critical support to US policymakers and those responding to the COVID-19 virus, which originated in China,” he said.

    “The Intelligence Community also concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not man-made or genetically modified. As we do in all crises, the Community’s experts respond by surging resources and producing critical intelligence on issues vital to US national security. The IC will continue to rigorously examine emerging information and intelligence to determine whether the outbreak began through contact with infected animals or if it was the result of an accident at a laboratory in Wuhan.”

    Despite Mr Grenell’s statement and scientific consensus that the virus was not created in a laboratory, based on its genome sequence the governments’ research paper obtained by The Telegraph notes a study that claims it was created.

    South China University of Technology researchers published a study on February 6 that concluded “the killer coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory in Wuhan. Safety level may need to be reinforced in high-risk biohazards laboratories”.

    “The paper is soon withdrawn because it ‘was not supported by direct proofs’, according to author Botao Xiano,” the dossier noted, continuing to point out that: ‘“No scientists have confirmed or refuted the paper’s findings’, scholar Yanzhong Huang wrote on March 5.”

    The Saturday Telegraph does not claim that the South China University of Technology study is credible, only that it has been included in this government research paper produced as part of the case against China.


    The paper obtained by The Saturday Telegraph speaks about “the suppression and destruction of evidence” and points to “virus samples ordered destroyed at genomics labs, wildlife market stalls bleached, the genome sequence not shared publicly, the Shanghai lab closure for ‘rectification’, academic articles subjected to prior review by the Ministry of Science and Technology and data on asymptomatic ‘silent carriers’ kept secret”.

    It paints a picture of how the Chinese government deliberately covered up the coronavirus by silencing doctors who spoke out, destroying evidence from the Wuhan laboratory and refusing to provide live virus samples to international scientists working on a vaccine.

    The US, along with other countries, has repeatedly ­demanded a live virus sample from the first batch of coronavirus cases. This is understood to have not been forthcoming despite its vital importance in developing a vaccine while potentially providing an indication of where the virus originated.


    Out of all the doctors, activists, journalists and scientists who have reportedly disappeared after speaking out about the coronavirus or criticising the response of Chinese authorities, no case is more intriguing and worrying than that of Huang Yan Ling.

    A researcher at the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the South China Morning Post reported rumours swirling on Chinese social media that she was the first to be diagnosed with the disease and was ­“patient zero”.

    Then came her reported disappearance, with her biography and image deleted from the Wuhan Institute of Virology’s website.

    On February 16 the institute denied she was ­patient zero and said she was alive and well, but there has been no proof of life since then, fanning speculation.

    US President Donald Trump has been urging China to be transparent about how the virus spread.


    On December 31, Chinese authorities started censoring news of the virus from search engines, deleting terms including “SARS variation, “Wuhan Seafood market” and “Wuhan Unknown Pneumonia.”

    On January 1 without any investigation into where the virus originated