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      What’s next? You must be wondering because the psychopathic regime running our national affairs seems to be fresh out of trips to lay on us. One thing for sure, as the sweet zephyrs of springtime merge into the punishing infernos of summer, is that the collapse of the USA continues apace. You can debate whether it is a good thing or a bad thing, but above all it is the thing.

      Have you forgotten our Ukraine project (Let’s you and him fight)? The idea was to bleed Russia dry because, you know… Russia! (They meddle in our elections… they collude with Trump… they tamper with our hopes and dreams….) It was years in the making, impeccably gamed-out in the State Department’s sub-basement. Secret Agent Man Hunter Biden, the then vice-president’s son, was even installed in the dark heart of Ukraine’s power center to… to do what, exactly? Never mind, because what secret agent men do is… secret!

     The Ukraine bear trap was supposed to put Russia out-of-business for the foreseeable future. Didn’t work out. The crowning act of boobery was our demolition of the Nord Stream natgas pipelines, which had the predictable effect of putting our NATO allies out-of-business, while Russia turned around and easily found other customers for its gas. The sound of teeth gnashing down in Foggy Bottom might have kept “Joe Biden” up at night — except he was a hundred miles away on the beach in Delaware, medicated unto dreamland where it’s always 1964 and you’re tooling among the saguaros in your beloved Corvette, getting your kicks on Route 66.

   So, let’s face it: Ukraine flopped. The main result of the Ukraine project is that it destroyed the tiny shred of what was left of America’s reputation for acting the global hegemon. In fact, Ukraine revealed that Russia has better weapons than we have (China, too) and that, given the emergence of hypersonic missiles, our gazillion-dollar aircraft carrier fleets are as obsolete as Roman triremes and liburnae. So, what’s our Plan B for defending Taiwan? (Hint: there is none.)

       What’s next? Western Europe, facing its own collapse, will turn on America and refuse to continue pretending it can help out in Ukraine. NATO falls apart. (What to do with those vacant office buildings and idle employees?) Europe will have enough problems with its cratering industries and banking system. It may even be obvious to a few heads-of-state that the best outcome is to simply allow Russia to pacify and demilitarize the age-old borderland. After all, for the rolling decades since World War Two, Ukraine was not a problem for anyone until America made it one.

       There will be no face-saving for the “Joe Biden” regime, either, which is reaching its own collapse phase. Last week’s face-plant at the Air Force Academy was the harbinger of things-to-come. Today (Monday), FBI officials must walk over to the House Oversight Committee an internal FD-1023 document revealed by a whistleblower to contain allegations of a Biden family $5-million bribery scheme with foreign actors. Of course, the substance of this criminal mischief is not news. What’s news is that the allegations contained in the doc come from a “trusted” confidential human source, meaning that, according to the FBI’s own rules, the allegation should have been dealt with expeditiously. Instead, the Bureau sat on it for three years. The FD-1023 doc is dated 2020, months before that year’s presidential election. The source is also alleged to be from Ukraine.

      Will committee members be allowed to photo-copy the doc, or transcribe what’s in it? Wouldn’t it be amusing if Committee Chairman James Comer personally walks it over to the Xerox machine? What would the FBI officials do? Body check him? What if it turns out that the doc is full of redactions — blacked out. Like a big, fat practical joke from FBI Director Christopher Wray?  (They’ve done it before.) Remember, Mr. Wray is already under threat of a contempt citation for stalling on this matter. But he’s obviously caught between that old rock and a hard place, since the doc appears to prove that, at least, the FBI has obstructed justice, and of the worst sort, a potential case of presidential treason. Mr. Wray may even be colored as an accomplice in it.

       Or maybe it will all amount to nothing because all bad deeds go unpunished in the degenerate era that precedes collapse.  Even so, it seems the regime is running out of insults to launch against the people who consent to be governed by it. The national transsexual struggle-session draws to a close with SecDef Lloyd Austin canceling the upcoming drag shows on our military bases. What else has the Party of Chaos got?  Slavery reparations? Rep Cori Bush (D-MO) has introduced a bill to pay $14-Trillion to the descendants of slaves. I’m sure that’ll work, both as a unifying action to bring together the quarrelsome diverse peoples of our land, and as a purely fiscal measure.

     The fate of the financial system will probably shove all of that aside, anyway. Everybody with more than half a brain is waiting for it to crack up, meaning a generalized vanishing of American wealth as expressed in cratering markets, failing banks, and a broken currency, in some vicious combo. Nothing else, it seems, can quite get the people’s attention.

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1,040 Responses to “What’s Next”

  1. JC Penny June 5, 2023 at 10:01 am #

    This is the time when, “Whoa, didn’t see that coming,” happens upon us. Could be a black goose in disguise? Or just a red herring? It won’t be anything litigious against TPTB, that much I’m sure of. Thanx, though Jim for the Monday soliloquy.

    • shotho June 5, 2023 at 11:51 am #

      Economic collapse would be very difficult to ignore.

    • ThorsHammer June 6, 2023 at 4:59 pm #

      “Whoa, didn’t see that coming” Really? You didn’t read the WaPo article last December in which the Ukrainian former commander of November’s failed Kherson counter offensive, Major General Andrey Kovalchuk detailed Ukrainian plans to blow up the Nova Kakhovka dam? You didn’t notice the three holes in the overfill gates that the American Hymars missiles created to test the strength of the dam in advance?

      Haven’t we been here before? Didn’t the OBiden Hologram tell us in no uncertain terms that he would blow up the Nordstream pipelines?

      “Who can we Trust?” Just follow the endless stream of “The Russians Did It” articles from every journalist /propagandist in the Mainstream Press and you will know who we cannot trust. I thought that theme was dead and buried since nobody outside of the sheep herds in the US of A still believed it.

      • ThorsHammer June 8, 2023 at 3:12 pm #

        As much as I like listening to his rants, Tucker Carlson is an idiot. In the middle of his mega tweet he came up with the zinger “Ukraine bombed the Nordstream pipeline”. What? USA Propaganda News has been trying to sell that fantasy to get it off OBiden’s shoulders for months with only six takers in the entire world. And now Carlson slips it into his Great Revival Speech?

        As if that wasn’t enough he flies off into UFO land as the Grand Finale of his rant, instantly destroying all the credibility he may have accumulated as the victim of the Bad Fox. The UnWoke public is so desperate for a little helping of Truth that they will struggle to blank out any thoughts that the Great Seer may be as insane as Diaper Joe.

      • Hated American June 14, 2023 at 9:09 am #

        What has been accomplished?
        Ethnic cleansing and persecution of Christian whites, looting out even more billions from America for laundering and distribution to our enemies, the ginning up of global hatred for “America”, and “the West” by using American resources to do the bidding of her occupying mafia, making Putin ( very probably just another WEF stooge/body double) look actually sympathetic and Christian, destruction of evidence of crimes committed by the Biden, Kerry, Pelosi, Romney families/US pols/proxies. “Ukraine war” has been very profitable for the Powers That Shouldn’t Be. And yet…there is almost no footage of it, not even old faked footage like they used to produce. No need. They just do what they want, so degraded is America.

  2. NickelthroweR June 5, 2023 at 10:03 am #


    Our national “struggle sessions” will at least give historians something to unpack when trying to figure out the collapse of the American Empire.

    The sacrifice of children was always something that puzzled me when looking back at history. How could a society destroy its own children?

    Well, watching the argument over puberty blockers has put that question to rest. Puberty blockers put the child into perpetual arrested development. The genitals do not grow and a child given puberty blockers is both sterile and incapable of having an orgasm.

    That said, all you have to do today is go on tv and announce that DJT is against puberty blockers (I don’t know if he is) and half of the country would rush out to have it done to their children.

    That is the end of the Empire.

    • Beryl of Oyl June 5, 2023 at 10:09 am #

      DJT endorsed a candidate who promoted these ghoulish surgeries on children.

      He actually recruited the guy.

      People who rightfully did not want to vote for vegetable Fetterman would be coerced into voting for the LGBTQ agenda supporting candidate either way.

      Oddly enough, no matter how bad Donald Trump kowtows to thhis “community”, they still bash him.

      He does not learn.

      • Cankerpuss June 5, 2023 at 10:28 am #

        I have always admired DJT and always will. Doesn’t mean I like the guy or consider him infallible. But I do admire him. That being said, he’s too tarnished, to beaten up and too polarizing to sit in the White House again and since our elections are more unreliable that those student body election held at the local elementary school I can say with a clear understanding that DJT will never be President again.

        And yes, he still does not learn. Too stubborn.

        • AmericanObserver June 5, 2023 at 12:28 pm #

          He’ll run even if he splits the GOP to do it, like Teddy roosevelt in 1912. Unfortunately that will almost guarantee a (D) winner.

          Ross Perot cost Bush re-election in 1992 when he got 19% of the vote. No electoral votes, but enough siphoned off the GOP to give Bill Clinton a win.

          • MaryQueen June 9, 2023 at 9:20 am #

            That is yet another reason I consider DJT to be controlled op.

            A serious statesman would be figuring out how to win back the OO, not egotistically splitting the party.

        • hmuller June 5, 2023 at 12:33 pm #

          I’m still trying to figure out if stupidity explains Trump filling his administration with swamp creatures who blocked all meaningful reform. In four years he never caught on that a total house cleaning was necessary to hose away the traitors like so many feces on the monkey cage floor.

          Or was it all part of the show?

          • C.O.Jones June 5, 2023 at 12:39 pm #

            Prescient question, hmuller – If anyone asks the question “Who made this Chris Wray clown the head of the FBI?” be sure to tell the truth – Wray is another Trump achievement.

            How in the world anyone thinks this guy is qualified to be president again is beyond me.

            All part of the show.

          • benr June 5, 2023 at 5:01 pm #

            @co jones

            What exactly is the qualification needed t be President?
            Carter was a nice guy but an idiot.
            Bill was not a nice guy and alsoan idiot.
            By all acounts Ronald was also a nice guy and lets face it not the sharpest tool in the shed by the end.
            GWBush and idiot.
            Daddy Bush now TYPE.
            Obama completely unqualified for the job.
            Trump at least runs some pretty large businesses.
            Current resident calling him an idiot would be insulting idiots all over.
            The last forty years of Presidents have been bumbling idiots as has most of the Congress and Senate.

          • C.O.Jones June 5, 2023 at 7:38 pm #

            benr – I agree with all of your assessments but have to add that Trump has declared bankruptcy several times. Elon Musk is considered a good business man even though his businesses rely on taxpayer money but I would never vote for Musk.

            I think there are many qualifications for a president:
            Person who:
            Respects God.
            Loves this country.
            Committed to doing the right thing and knows right from wrong.
            Understands the law, will uphold and defend the Constitution.
            Isn’t owned by anyone, especially banksters.
            Has the communication skills to take their case to the people.
            Tells the truth.
            Superior intellect – someone who gets it.
            Has testicular fortitude, regardless of their gender.

            I just described RFK Jr.

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 11:01 pm #

            Obama is eminently qualified to take down America – which is his real job. A Master at inflaming the dark masses, who better to do so. With his paper, pen, and phone, he dismantled our military.

            Islander thinks he’s lazy. Maybe when it comes to things he doesn’t like to do. But destroying Western Culture is his passion, so no he’s not lazy at that.

          • benr June 6, 2023 at 10:17 am #

            @co jones,

            I believe you are confusing personal bankruptcy with a failed business or two.
            The man has over 500 businesses some of which fail.
            Pretty good track record even if 10% failed that would be damn good.
            Your wish list of what it would take is pretty much describing Jesus and every other human in ever to have existed would fail at half that list.

          • C.O.Jones June 6, 2023 at 3:03 pm #

            benr – Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts filed for bankruptcy in 2004, 2009, and in 2015, shortly before he ran for president. He is owned lock, stock and barrel by the Rothschilds and served more as a front man rather than a business owner for Resorts International, a corporation whose principal investors were Tibor Rosenbaum (pronounced “mob”) David Rockefeller (pronounced Noo Whirled Odor) and Baron Edmund de Rothschild (don’t even get me started.) Trump named his son Baron.

            How does anyone competent lose money running a casino? It’s all math and the odds are in favor of the house. When the investors sucked the money out of the “business”, they declared bankruptcy, sometimes repeatedly. Because they named it Trump, the bankruptcy did not reflect negatively on them.

            Trump did some good things as president – energy independence, getting out of Obamination’s TPP, record low unemployment. I voted for that sleazy SOB twice before he enabled the murder of millions by allowing the covid scam. My brother was one of those murdered by the clot-shot and I’m still pissed off about it.

            Trump is playing people – the willing. I’m no longer willing. I will not vote for someone who says they are going to drain the swamp and then appoints and promotes nothing but swamp rats. By standing down and allowing the “lockdown” he facilitated the largest transfer of wealth in history, creating more billionaires than any other single event and destroying what was left of the middle class. He still encourages people to get his clot-shot because Pfizer pays him to.

            Trump has a beautiful wife at home and is off paying porn stars to sleep with him. If you or I did that, it would be consorting with prostitutes. He says he is not a politician and then proves it by getting his backside kicked repeatedly by a re-animated sardine named Nancy. He can’t even outsmart Joe Biden’s handlers. How he still has so many acolytes is beyond me.

            My dad had all the qualifications on the list I made. So do I. As mentioned, so does RFK jr. None of us is Jesus.

          • benr June 6, 2023 at 3:43 pm #

            @co jones

            How does anyone competent lose money running a casino? It’s all math and the odds are in favor of the house. When the investors sucked the money out of the “business”, they declared bankruptcy, sometimes repeatedly. Because they named it Trump, the bankruptcy did not reflect negatively on them.- co jones

            A quick look and you will see many Casinos run out of Atlantic city closed up shop not just Trumps.
            Or this little tidbit.

            Why did Atlantic City casinos close?
            Harrah’s Boardwalk Hotel Casino at Trump Plaza (later known as: Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino.) In July 2006, the casinos in Atlantic City were forced to cease gambling operations due to a state-wide budget crisis. State regulators, whose presence is required for gaming operations, were prohibited from working.

            If he was owned by Rothchilds then why are they allowing their lapdog to be shredded by the media non-stop?
            Surely the evil Rothchilds and friends control the media.
            Sorry not buying most of that.
            You know them by who their enemies are.

          • C.O.Jones June 6, 2023 at 4:50 pm #

            Fair enough, benr.

            I don’t sell books but Susan Bradford wrote a book called The End of Globalism in 2022. It’s not a novel but is instead a chronological listing of events involving Trump, including his dealings with Kissinger and the Rothschilds. It’s a good read with facts that are there for all to see but are seldom seen. For example, Rothschild banker Wilbur Ross was appointed Secretary of Commerce by the same guy who appointed Chris Wray the head of the FBI. The Rothschilds own the notes on just about every business “owned” by he who craps in a golden toilet. How’s that for making America great again?

            I don’t want to beat a dead horse. Peace.

          • Islander June 6, 2023 at 6:28 pm #

            “Islander thinks he’s lazy. ”

            You are confusng me with someone else.

            I said Obama is running Biden.
            Among other things.

          • ThorsHammer June 7, 2023 at 6:41 am #

            Trump isn’t stupid but he certainly is blind. Every time he looks in a mirror he sees nothing but himself. A genius woefully wronged by the Clinton Cabal. His entire goal in life is to achieve retribution and leave his mark on history that he knows he deserves.

            And yes, I will vote for him because he stands the best chance of totally fu***** up and blowing up the Empire of Lies that the USA has become.

            DeSantis? The black soul who chortled while his “clients” were tortured at Guantanamo? RFK Jr? The Dead Man Walking that the Malignant Overseers will assassinate should he even have a sniff of being nominated by the DemonRat cabal? Governor Gruesome? His name says it all.

          • MaryQueen June 9, 2023 at 9:21 am #

            Def part of the show.

    • Cankerpuss June 5, 2023 at 10:32 am #

      I read somewhere, I don’t know where, perhaps right here on this blog, that when the two sexes, male and female, become nearly indistinguishable that the empire is near collapse.

      Well, here we are. Women adorn themselves with tattoos and piercings as do the men. Women want to be men.

      Then there are men who wear makeup and many men want to be women. Gone are the manly masculine males who look and act like alphas. Males today wear skinny jeans, designer shoes and have neatly trimmed little pimp beards.

      Many days when I am out an about I pass by some poor soul and I can’t, for the life of me, determine if that was a male or a female.

      • mrs_saj June 5, 2023 at 11:00 am #


        I too am astounded at the number of androgynous people running around these days. I can’t tell what they are, nor do I want to.

        This small population did not explode naturally. This has become fashionable, a fad, and life all fast fashion, it will burn out. Unfortunately for the fashionistas out there, the consequences are long ranging. NickelthroweR mentions above some of the side effects of puberty blockers, which I was unaware of.

        This country has lost its collective mind for the moment.

        • Beryl of Oyl June 5, 2023 at 11:11 am #

          Some of it is likely environmental as well.

          I have been noticing lately when I interact with young men in various businesses, that more and more of them sound kind of gay to me.

          One thing I do know is that my brothers and their friends once they reached their teens tried to affect deeper voices than they actually had, so possibly it’s just that these young men don’t feel a need to impress someone around their grandmother’s age with how manly they can sound.

          It could also be that males with naturally higher voices don’t feel ashamed of that anymore.

          Or it could be their hormones are screwed up.

          I don’t notice an increase in girls trying to sound more masculine though.

          • Q. Shtik June 5, 2023 at 12:27 pm #

            I don’t notice an increase in girls trying to sound more masculine though. – BofO


            What I notice about girls/women’s voices (this is nothing new) is the phenomena of “vocal fry” and “up talk.” It is very prevalent in the Netflix series Designated Survivor that I’m currently viewing. I cannot adequately express how much I detest these speech affectations.

            Up talk, which makes declarative sentences sound like questions, has crept majorly into the speech of males as well.

          • Yirgach June 5, 2023 at 12:43 pm #


            Re “Uptalk” –

            I remember attending a computer show a few decades ago where someone asked the young marketing director his name.

            He answered “John Smith?” and the person said “Are you sure?”

            I’ve also noticed the wife doing that when she gets nervous on conference calls.

          • Beryl of Oyl June 5, 2023 at 3:23 pm #

            Q, I think every generation has a group of the “cool”, who not only use the cool slang of the day, but also the cool accent.

          • benr June 5, 2023 at 5:02 pm #

            That up speak is Kardashian curse on society.

          • mrs_saj June 6, 2023 at 7:39 am #


            I don’t know about one gender trying to sound more like the other because I typically don’t engage with this crowd. I do have eyes, however.

            There’s a TV commercial for a recruiting firm (might have been Indeed) where the announcer is explaining the hiring needs of a company to the TV audience. There are several specific openings and then the announcer mentions that the company needs a new shipping manager because the current one is leaving to go find himself. This is uproariously funny because the shipping manager is a woman. The actor (actress?) playing the shipping manager stands next to a female employee in the commercial and is substantially shorter than his/her colleague. The shipping manager doesn’t have a single facial hair to be seen and is wearing overbearing “manly” glasses. The shipping manager is wearing the “girl wants to be a guy” typical costume, but can’t disguise her hips. And I’m laughing in the background because the male shipping manager who is actually female is leaving the company to go find himself. It’s a good idea for he/she/it is truly lost.

            I went to a high school graduation in the midwest two weeks ago and a very similar looking young lady was escorting family members to various seats on the gym floor. She had done everything in her power to disguise herself; shorn hair, no make-up, no jewelry, etc, etc. But she couldn’t hide her hips. I see this all the time.

          • Suburban_elk June 6, 2023 at 8:21 am #

            Good observations; it’s All of the Above of course; except for

            I don’t notice an increase in girls trying to sound more masculine though.

            This is selection bias, on the part of the observer. Girls high school sports all require that the girls be more masculine. This is just one example. I have written elsewhere and at length, about how age appropriate women for Yours_truly have had their personalities turned aggressive, in the mating game dance thing. It’s frankly repulsive. But with respective to all parties involved, their aggressive behavior in this dance, is filling a void.

            Men are so beaten, having had their balls cut off, and in the case of 120 MILLION Americans, the sensitive parts of their penises LITERALLY thrown out with the hospital trash “without so much the courtesy of a biowaste disposal protocol,” that they are handicapped, in their abilities to play the game.

            I draw attn to that particular handicap of having had his penis reduced, because it’s an insult on top of injury to pretend it has no effect, on one’s performance as a man, but other men might draw attn on the other ways in which they are cut down by this culture, wherein female sexual prerogative is loosed.

            The real example, the final potatoes as it were, is in the mating process — Who is initiating sex, which partner, the man or the woman?

            In the old days, it was man. Nowadays it is more often women. And this leads to, eventually? no one.

          • Beryl of Oyl June 7, 2023 at 11:46 am #

            Elk I said I haven’t noticed an increase in girls trying to sound more masculine.

            There have always been women with deep voices.

            There have always been girls who affected a butch voice.

            There has been no increase as far as I have noticed.


          • Suburban_elk June 8, 2023 at 9:34 am #

            I read ya loud and clear Beryl, and not to get in a last word, but I am tellin ya, there’s two sides to the perspective, of how men and women are not fulfilling their traditional roles, and tending toward the other.

          • Beryl of Oyl June 8, 2023 at 11:39 am #

            I don’t disagree, Elk.

          • MaryQueen June 9, 2023 at 9:23 am #

            I agree with Q about the vocal fry and uptalk.

            It drives me insane, and it’s really rampant among females.

            Not many things annoy me more than vocal fry except autotune.

            Also, for some reason, the word “important” is now pronounced “im-porrr-ent.” And button is pronounced “buhhh-unnn.”


        • NickelthroweR June 5, 2023 at 11:38 am #


          Puberty Blockers are not a time-out while everyone figures out what gender the child is or a time-out so that the child turns 18 and then figures it all out. If you give puberty blockers to a 6-year-old boy then said boy’s genitals stop growing. The person will have the penis of a 6-year-old forever or until removed.

          This is also true of puberty blockers given to females.

          Puberty blockers permanently freezes the person as a prepubescent child. Permanent underdeveloped genitals. Permanent sterilization.

          That we do such things to our own children as part of our political process means that the Empire is over. Stick a fork in it. Finally, if sick perversion really does bring on God’s wrath then we are in for one hell of a firestorm.

          • Paula D June 5, 2023 at 1:04 pm #

            I wonder who benefits from a legal adult who has the appearance of a child.


          • John001 June 6, 2023 at 5:17 am #

            Hmm … I thought these drugs suspended the process, giving the child time to sort him/herself out. In a programme on BBC R4 many years ago listeners got the clear impression that the effect of the drugs was reversible, i.e. stop taking them and the body will go through puberty.

          • Suburban_elk June 6, 2023 at 8:28 am #

            It’s hard to believe that the BBC would misrepresent things, especially on a subject so intimately having to do with the health and development of the British people into full sized capable men and women.

          • Beryl of Oyl June 7, 2023 at 11:49 am #

            The truth is, no one has any idea what the long term effects of giving these drugs to a child are, they just know that they will achieve the desired effect more or less.

          • Paula D June 7, 2023 at 1:27 pm #

            True, Beryl, but so far we do know that they stop the development of secondary sex characteristics, they cause ovarian atrophy, and they have detrimental effects on brain and bone development, as well as genital development.

            These are very powerful drugs approved to be used on elderly men with prostate cancer, instead given off-label to children in an experimental trial, in furtherance of demented goals.

            Those pushing this evil experiment are the same ones who outlawed giving HCQ and ivermectin off-label for early treatment of covid.
            They were very, very concerned about unintended side effects, you see.

          • Beryl of Oyl June 7, 2023 at 1:58 pm #

            Yes Paula. They don’t care what happens to them down the road as long as they are permanently prevented from being a functional boy or girl as they were born.

            I just happen to know someone who was using a common diuretic often prescribed to heart patients, off label, to treat a different condition.

            She and her prescribing doctor both thought they were well aware of the side effects.

            What neither were aware of was the side effects of going off the drug, because many people do not go off it, and because anything affecting hormones is different in anyone who uses it, and also because doctors barely know a thing about hormones, especially in women.

            She’s having a difficult time due to stopping the drug, and no one can give her definitive answers on what to do or how long this may go on.

            This is one of the drugs doctors have been giving to small boys to turn them into pseudo-girls.

            Caitlyn (FKA Bruce) Jenner has given tacit approval to the practice BTW, and it is he who is dictating “trans” policy to the Big Tent Republicans.

            Don’t be fooled.

        • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 12:13 pm #

          Well one vaguely leftist idea that may have some validity is that sexuality is a spectrum with some men being more masculine than others. Everyone has always known this in any case. Ditto for women and femininity.

          If you make too much of this idea, you get what we now have: Utter collapse. People can’t deal with shades of grey very well, can they? In the name of authenticity, men trying to look and act like women. Sometimes even very masculine men?

          And of course, lifestyle (including diet) makes a difference too. Good on Xi and the CCP for trying to stop the decline of masculinity is China. Look what happened to Japan. East Asians are very susceptible to this.

          • Q. Shtik June 5, 2023 at 12:32 pm #

            Look what happened to Japan. – Jarek


            I guess I’m uninformed. What happened to Japan?

          • hmuller June 5, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

            Q, there’s only half as many Japanese being born as dying. Maybe most of the men turned gay?! Too much heavy metal in the sushi.

          • Paula D June 5, 2023 at 1:08 pm #

            The propaganda machine has convinced Americans that a lack of population growth in Japan is a tragedy that must be overcome, even though there are 123 million Japanese now, compared to 46 million Japanese in 1900.

            It makes no sense to wail and gnash your teeth over this, but come people cling to the narrative.

            This is how they justify unlimited immigration in the USA, also.
            Otherwise, our population might drop! It must grow and grow and grow!

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 1:53 pm #

            Well said, Paula. If left alone, they might find balance in time. But they won’t be give that time. Already there are cries for mass 3rd world immigration into Japan.

            There’s already a trickle: Japanese farmers getting wives from the well brought up girls of the Phillipines instead of their own bizarre, entitled, feminist, ruined women.

          • ThorsHammer June 5, 2023 at 2:22 pm #


            See how rational and erudite you can be when you stop yapping at Mary Q!

          • Beryl of Oyl June 5, 2023 at 3:26 pm #

            Japan is pretty porn-infested too.

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 11:02 pm #

            Thor, what is your problem? The ladies must be kept in line. That’s a large part of any viable cultural endeavor.

          • MaryQueen June 9, 2023 at 9:26 am #

            Jar, do you actually imagine you’re keeping ladies in line?

            That explains a lot.


        • ThorsHammer June 7, 2023 at 6:11 pm #


          When Salvadorian president Nayib Bukele, came into office he faced a country with the highest murder rate in the hemisphere. 8,000 per year in his small country. Gangs with drug connections to branches in the US ruled with impunity, amassing more economic and political power than the government itself. Bukele determined to put an end to the situation. Fortunately Salvadorian gangs marked themselves with grotesque tattoos to demonstrate how fearsome they were. Bukele used the army to round up every person with a gang tattoo, completely ignoring any notion of human rights. At one point over a million marked men were held in prison.

          Not only is El Salvador now the safest country in the Hemisphere, but last year it did not have a single homicide! And Bukele is the most popular and respected leader in the Americas.

          So there is an upside to the appearance of the androgynous humanoids that populate the Woke nightmare. When the inevitable reaction to their satanic cult occurs it will be easy to know who to round up and send to the detention centers that were built by the State to incarcerate us dissenters. The child butchers should just be lined up against the wall and shot. The victims of mutilation should be helped to salvage whatever they can of their sad lives. And we can emerge on the other side where men can be men, women be women, and a society under laws be re-built.

          • Jarek June 8, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

            Yes, there is a lesson to be learned from El Salvador. Kudos for daring to see how it applies to our fallen land.

      • Alfred June 6, 2023 at 8:50 am #

        Can’t have one? Be one.

    • MaryQueen June 5, 2023 at 10:40 am #

      OMG you totally nailed it with the “Struggle Sessions,” i.e., Woke Indoctrination.

      Will you end up in the RED group of good citizens, or the BLACK group of bigot/racist/white supremacist/transphobes?

      That’s where we’re going! The latter group of course will be required to go through the Woke Indoctrination Process (already being used in most institutions across the nation).

      Will this continue? Or will it blow up in their fucking faces?

      I would love the latter, but it requires people saying no, and for some reason, Americans are too polite to do that.

      • mrs_saj June 5, 2023 at 11:05 am #


        I have become lost in the color-coding. The red pill/ blue pill thing I understood. I love science fiction and have watched all the Matrix movies with Keanu Reeves. So I get that reference.

        Of late I have seen red pill/ black pill references, which I don’t understand. Somewhere I read that black pill refers to incels. But again, I didn’t get the red pill/ black pill comparisons.

        Can you explain your mention of red and black? I thought the blue pill people were the good little citizens who stayed ignorant of the Matrix software. The red pillers has become aware of the artificial system and its software and now understood their reality.

        • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 12:17 pm #

          Black pill originally meant someone who had a very bleak view of the world.

          Maybe the meaning has changed (or been changed) to “bad”. And red, instead of waking up as in the Matrix, to being “woke”?

        • Soul Forensics June 5, 2023 at 2:24 pm #

          mrs. saj,

          Black pill is used in a strictly sexual context. Black pillers believe that almost the only thing that matters for guys is that they’re super handsome, 9 or 10 out of 10. They also believe, with red pillers, in hypergamy, but unlike red pillers, who believe (as I do) that hypergamy refers to the coupling up of women with men of higher resources (money, fame, status), the black pillers are all about looks. It’s a philosophy that works for 18-25 year-olds, but nearing thirty, women start fretting over their ticking bio clocks, hence the switch to money over (or at least just as important) as looks. (Looks also signal health, important for long-term care of their offspring.)

          In short, black pill are for those 18-25, red pill for those 26 till menopause and andropause, and blue pill for those 50 +.

        • MrMangoOnMyShoulder June 5, 2023 at 3:37 pm #

          Mrs Saj,

          I’m guessing Mary is referring to red and black in the context of the Cultural Revolution of Mao, since she mentioned struggle sessions. Those labeled reds (who followed the new thinking) were “good citizens”, those labeled blacks (who pushed back against indoctrination) were lined up in the town square with dunce caps on (and then, of course, worse later).

        • MaryQueen June 5, 2023 at 5:19 pm #

          RED and BLACK were Mao’s groupings for people during their same cultural “reshaping.”

          • MaryQueen June 5, 2023 at 5:19 pm #

            RED = commie = good.

        • thirdcoastlegend June 5, 2023 at 7:33 pm #


          Blue pill – hopeful, optimistic, and deluded worldview

          Red pill – realistic and cynical worldview

          Black pill – hopeless, despairing, somewhat nihilistic worldview

          • Soul Forensics June 5, 2023 at 9:04 pm #

            Good ones, thirdcoast. (These are fun.) Here’re a few analogies:

            Blue pill men go for goddesses.

            Red pill men go for hot, obedient Filipinas.

            Black pill men go for supermodels.

        • mrs_saj June 6, 2023 at 7:49 am #

          Thank you all,

          Great replies! Mary’s comment makes sense to me now, and I also have a much clearer grasp on the black pill concept.


        • Suburban_elk June 6, 2023 at 8:42 am #

          I can explain the red and black pill references. They are used in the is Dissident Quarters, generally as follows, and in sequence–

          blue pill — Joe and Jane Normie; CNN, Fox, take ur pick; which some of them grow out of into
          red pill — realize that they have been lied to about everything, including critical realities re race, sex differences, history politics and current events

          and at this point, a good number of men and women will fall off the red pill into

          black pill — the comforting lies of the blue pill no longer work; and the terrible reality of the red pill is overwhelming; all there is now, is the sweet release of death; this is the black pill

          black pill (as a meme) is particularly associated with incel culture, but properly it’s not restricted to them; IOW girls can be black pill too

          the black pill as it is under consideration re incel, is the simple realization that a lot of young men have, that they are NOT in the top 10 percent of men, and their only prospect of a mate, is a woman who is well past her prime and wants a beta provider as opposed to an alpha fuck: IOW she is post-wall, aka over 30

          the other prospect that these young men might have, and as was under discussion on the previous thread, is that they might get sex selected by a slay queen, as in the final boss of female hypergamy, as in a black widow, to be the dick in the closet, which is an emergent trend in mating behavior

          and then, moving beyond the black pill–

          In the more balanced, the more integrated communities of functional adults, there be whispers of a final pill: the White Pill

          there’s also the grey pill, and the purple pill, which are a compromise black and white, and an intermediary between red and blue, respectively

      • Uncle Bob June 5, 2023 at 10:53 pm #

        Polite? The citizens of this country, where every other word seems to be a derivative of “fuck”? No, we’re all scared shitless of what could happen to us and our families if we say or do the wrong thing, especially if we or any relatives are in school or if our employers learn we’re not loyal to Team WEF and Wannabe Messiah Schwab. Hell, back in the mid-1960s my dad, a substitute teacher by day and factory worker by night, went more than a year without a teaching gig because he dared write a letter to the editor critical of Jimmy Carter. Imagine how things are now, when the smallest perceived slight against the WEF and its allies can bring instant total ruin upon your family because you’re branded a bigot or “anti-science” or a hater because you object to adults screwing five-year-old children. Our mass media are all too willing to trumpet these accusations as factual without bothering to investigate the situation or present the other side of the story, so millions of people believe (for example) that Gov. DeSantis is “targeting” Disney for supporting oppressed gays, rather than pushing back against a bunch of powerful pedophile perverts who want to corrupt kids’ minds when they’re impressionable so they’ll be willing recruits for NAMBLA. It’s a disgusting situation, and it’s already bringing judgment upon America. Wait till the Iranian suitcase nukes carried into Texas and California by “refugees” and Russian and/or Chinese hypersonic missiles deliver nuclear warheads to the entire country — then you’ll have quite a show.

        • Qwibqwib June 9, 2023 at 12:45 pm #

          As an aside, there is actually no such thing as a “suitcase nuke”. if you want to know how these things are REALLY done, look up “club K” container missile system…

      • Grandpa June 6, 2023 at 1:07 am #

        “Woke Human Indoctrination Process”; or, “WHIP “. Coming soon to cities across America! Avoid crowds, get out of the cities NOW! A year too early is preferable to a day too late.
        Or so I’ve read… (tip o’ the hat to Ol’ Remus)

    • Greg June 5, 2023 at 1:11 pm #

      Hi NicklethroweR,
      When people see children as an obstacle to their own prosperity rather than as the foundation for their nation’s prosperity, the child sacrifices begin.

      • Vegan Shark June 5, 2023 at 4:04 pm #

        Greg @ 1:11,

        When people see children as an obstacle to their own prosperity rather than as the foundation for their nation’s prosperity, the child sacrifices begin.

        The reality is that having children is an obstacle to one’s prosperity, with all the costs and limitations involved. Some people accept that. Good for them. Some people choose not to make financial (and other) sacrifices so they can raise children. Good for them.

        Or don’t you believe having kids should be a personal choice, instead of a requirement?

        And the idea that having children is “the foundation for [a] nation’s prosperity” is bollocks. A smaller population contributes to both personal and national prosperity by increasing the time, attention and resources available for raising kids to be successful in life instead of being geopolitical weapons.

        If big families and maximum reproduction were the basis of financial security, Africa would be swimming in wealth among all its social classes.

        • Uncle Bob June 5, 2023 at 10:58 pm #

          I take it you support the slaughter of about 64 million American children and over a billion children worldwide as a de facto sacrifice to Moloch, while excusing it as no big deal?

          Remember, we’re told there would be a time when children would be seen as curses. We’re there. What comes next makes the offenses of Hitler, Stalin and Mao combined look pleasant.

          • Vegan Shark June 5, 2023 at 11:36 pm #

            I take it you support the slaughter of about 64 million American children and over a billion children worldwide as a de facto sacrifice to Moloch, while excusing it as no big deal?

            I was talking about birth control, not abortion. Abortion is far too complex a subject to deal with in a comment thread. Does birth control wind you up as well? “Murder” of unconceived hypothetical children? Choosing not to procreate — an outrage! Who are they to make their own decision about one of life’s most fundamental determinants of their future lives?

            What comes next makes the offenses of Hitler, Stalin and Mao combined look pleasant.

            You have a vivid imagination. Have you thought of putting it to work by writing fiction (other than the sample quoted above)?

        • Greg June 6, 2023 at 3:44 pm #

          Hi Vegan Shark,
          As to your first point, keep in mind that the context: NicklethroweR was talking about child sacrifice (abortion, taking away a child’s potential to have children of their own) and so was I. You and I are in agreement that people differ widely in their ability to be good parents. At the far left end of the parenting bell curve, we have people who shouldn’t be trusted to babysit, and at the opposite end we have people who can raise a dozen mentally and physically healthy children and loving every minute of it. I wonder how many men and women might have been able to be good parents (and actually enjoy parenthood), only to have been bamboozled into spending their lives in jobs that did not add one bit of anything of value to the productive economy, but instead only increased the the blizzard of paperwork-abetting tyranny (however unwittingly.)

          As to your second point, “the abuse does not abolish the use,” to paraphase a Roman maxim. Films like “Children of Men” remind us how important children are by having us imagine their absence. Your Afriacan example reminds us of the importance of responsible parenting. Nevertheless, a society of healthy children raised by loving parents is indeed the foundation, and they will be able to solve whatever population problems may arise–whether by avoiding the problem in the first place or by solutions that a creative society can find.

          I think we both agree that “big families and maximum reproduction” per se is not the “basis of financial security.” But healthy families are, and to that end, I’d rather have a smaller population of competent, loving parents in a society that values them without disparaging those who contribute to society in other ways.

        • ThorsHammer June 7, 2023 at 6:41 pm #

          Grass eating Shark

          Men are men and Women are women. It shouldn’t require a Russian president to tell us that, but in the West we seem determined to forget it.

          A career as a doctor or lawyer can be fulfilling for a woman, but unless she gives birth and raises a child she will always be less than a complete human being. I can speak from experience of living with women I’ve loved who made that choice.

          And a man who misses out on the male role of protecting and supporting a woman partner and offspring is similarly incomplete.

    • ThorsHammer June 8, 2023 at 3:18 pm #

      Why are they trying to lock children into a permanent state of arrested development? Preferably little blonde girls? What is the preferred sexual object of Sniffer Joe, our grand Leader?

      Puzzle no more, NickelthroweR

  3. Penelope Dreadful June 5, 2023 at 10:05 am #

    The takeaway quote from the article:

    “Or maybe it will all amount to nothing because all bad deeds go unpunished in the degenerate era that precedes collapse.”


    • Cankerpuss June 5, 2023 at 10:26 am #

      That’s where I am putting my money. There is no punishment for the evildoers in today’s America. People who have violated their oath of office have no repercussions and walk away with more money in their bank accounts than when they entered their “service.”

      It makes me sick to my stomach.

      • Beryl of Oyl June 5, 2023 at 10:35 am #

        Many if not most Americans do not understand what a president’s job even is.

        If they do, they still look for excuses why their guy is just fine when he does not uphold the Constitution, but the other guy is bad.

      • Blackbird June 5, 2023 at 12:18 pm #

        Bad deeds not only go unpunished, they are rewarded. Hunter Biden gets bad press because of his abandoned computer? No problem, he gets his own art show, making millions sneezing coke and blood all over a canvas.

        And half the country looks the other way because, “Ugh, ugh, ugh, TRUMP!!

        Everyone accept their side’s crimes because the other side is even more criminal…

        • Q. Shtik June 5, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

          Everyone accept their side’s crimes – Blackbird


          This is a contest. The first commenter to identify and fix the above excerpt wins my undying admiration.

          • Blackbird June 5, 2023 at 1:05 pm #


          • pranah June 5, 2023 at 1:05 pm #

            Everyone accepts his or her side’s crimes.

            We all accept the crimes of our sides.

            Everyone accepts the crimes of one’s side.


            Sorry, Blackbird, I understand very well what you were saying.

          • tlauria June 5, 2023 at 1:07 pm #

            Everyone EXCEPT their side’s crimes because the other side is more criminal…

          • Blackbird June 5, 2023 at 1:14 pm #

            pranah, no reason to apologize for being correct.

            tlauria, your correction is incorrect.

            ‘Stick, I appreciate your undying admiration – I guess…

          • Night Owl June 5, 2023 at 5:04 pm #

            This question is a challenge only to students of the Q school of writing and editing.

          • Q. Shtik June 5, 2023 at 5:14 pm #

            This is a contest. – Q


            It’s a tie. Both Blackbird and pranah have correctly answered at 1:05 pm. You both have my undying admiration.

    • Alfred June 5, 2023 at 10:38 am #

      “Today (Monday), FBI officials must walk over to the House oversight Committee an internal FD-1023 document revealed by a whistleblower to contain allegations of a Biden family $5-million bribery scheme with foreign actors.”

      It never ceases to amaze me that these people, who on the one hand executed the RUSSIA GATE, COVID, and the 2020 ELECTION, are genuinely expected to produce a document that unseats their leader.

      That they’ve held on to that record, such that they could produce it in this fashion is beyond my ability to understand. It cannot be real.

      The expectations of those who claim to represent “we the people” in this matter are either a fantasy or they are fake. America has a rogue government and that rogue government is being asked to turn over a smoking gun.

      Lucy, Charlie Brown, Football – HELLO?

      Seriously, how do you fix this?

      • Uncle Bob June 5, 2023 at 11:05 pm #

        You can’t. This country was lost under FDR when he allowed known communists to permeate his administration. Eisenhower tried to warn us, but was mocked by the media. Kennedy tried to slow the destruction, and was shot for his trouble. And so on.

    • MaryQueen June 5, 2023 at 10:41 am #

      I see Jim’s a tad less optimistic this week, it would seem.

      • Islander June 5, 2023 at 10:55 am #

        I guess it stands to reason that the guy who knows about the iceberg (a.k.a. Long Emergency) might be expected to suggest various types of course corrections for the Titanic . . .

      • Beryl of Oyl June 5, 2023 at 11:01 am #

        I’m a little bit optimistic, where I was not at all before.

        It was when I read someone’s remarks about Russia being an empire that collapsed, and we are witnessing its comeback.

        We keep seeing these historic quotes about fallen empires, and speculating about America’s future, when all this time we’ve had an example right in front of us, of what this looks like, an example we can learn from.

        That’s why they are so desperate, that’s what the trannies are meant to help with, also the reparations talk, they are desperate to keep Amricans divided along every line they can think of, because one of the major obstacles to Ukraine as a nation is the deep, deep hatred of Russia and Russians that existed long before this, and leads to teror and rage on the part of some of the countries that were part of the Soviet Union.

        There are Estonians who really fear and have reason to fear that Putin will reassemble the Russian empire; but there are also people in those places who would welcome it.

        This is the kind of thing the UN was created to help with, but the UN isn’t just corrupt it’s also incompetent.

        I guess corruption always goes hand in hand with incompetence, which leads the corrupt to be taken over by the vicious warlord types.

        • JohnAZ June 5, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

          The idea that Russia wants to reinstate the USSR does not make sense.

          The mid Asian SSRs like Khasakstan are leaning towards the Chinese orbit today, but are oil bearing countries following BRICS++.

          Eastern Europe is in fear of its own media’s expression of Putin and Russia. If Russia really wanted to retake the European SSRs, they would never have let NATO step in the first place. It was not until the “knife” in their gut, Ukraine was threatened that Putin did anything. He has not fought an all out war to destroy Ukraine either. What exactly is he doing just sitting on gains in East Ukraine? Not running a war of takeover as the NATO folks would want you to believe.

          Russia, China et al know the way for the world to tear down the USA is to let the USA destroy itself while they watch and laugh.

          It is working.

          • Beryl of Oyl June 5, 2023 at 3:43 pm #

            Not The USSR, John. They fear he may wish to retake the land to be part of Russia.

            I know someone who is closer to the situation than I am, having lived in Ukraine and who is able to speak the language, who blames everything on Russian imperialism, which he says predates the Soviet Union.

            He’s not alone in that viewpoint.

            I may not think their concerns are justified, but people who lived under the communist oppression may not see it my way.

            I know a family of second and third generation emigrants from one of the Baltic countries.

            They hate hate hate the Russians with a passion.

            Having had a taste of communism in this country due to the covid scam, I can understand the fears of those who lived under it better.

          • Mike Sherman June 5, 2023 at 8:27 pm #

            “He has not fought an all out war to destroy Ukraine either. What exactly is he doing just sitting on gains in East Ukraine? Not running a war of takeover as the NATO folks would want you to believe.”

            Or perhaps. Putin (and Russia) cannot win a conventional war due to the constraints on its economy and the potential consequences if NATO were to become directly involved.

            The nuclear option is all he has left if he really wants to ‘win’ this ‘war’, and even he, surely, is not that stupid…?

        • Islander June 5, 2023 at 3:17 pm #


          The Estonians are similar to the trannies and the triggered.

          thinking their own paranoia = reality.

          There is no evidence that Russia wants to reconstitute the Soviet Union, or the Russian empire.

          Russia a right to defend its borders. It is Russia that actually has a greater reason for fearing the West than Estonia has of fearing Russia.

          Russia a big, powerful country with a sphere of influence..
          Estonia is a small country that was a lot better off when it accepted its location within Russia’s sphere of influence..

          There are some things one cannot change.

          Speaking of spheres of influence, Mexico has recognized the State of Palestine!!

          Do I hear the gnashing of teeth in GNeoconistan???
          I think I do!!

          • Beryl of Oyl June 5, 2023 at 3:50 pm #

            I don’t disagree with Russia’s rights, but as far as paranoia by the Estonians etc. I don’t live there, I haven’t walked a mile in their shoes, and the three years of tyrannical authoritarianism I just went through and the way it pits neighbor against neighbor and turns everybody into a snitch were more than enough for me.

            I used to think that some of the smaller countries would have been better off staying with a superpower, but after having read more about what it was like when the communists took over, I realized that for many of the people in those countries, they would literally rather die than keep dealing with the people who oppressed them.

          • Islander June 5, 2023 at 6:24 pm #

            “they would literally rather die than keep dealing with the people who oppressed them.”

            Yeah, well, that was then. Stalin has been dead for a long time. The most oppressed were of course the Russian/Soviet people themselves.

            How do the Estonians feel about the Germans? Of course many of them joined up with the Germans to fight the Soviets. I.e., these people were *on the wrong side* in WW2.

            Estonia and other small Baltic countries such as Latvia were historically pulled back and forth between Russia and Germany (via the centuries-old German diaspora) while simultaneously nurturing nationalistic dreams. The latter often played right into the Nazi mind-set, as in Ukraine.

            Time to face reality and stop feeding past traumas, Feuer fuettern.

            It might not be the smartest move in the world for
            Estonia to rely on Uncle Sam and make an enemy of the RF, by obsessing on just one facet of past trauma and memory-holing the rest of the story.

          • Mike Sherman June 5, 2023 at 8:30 pm #

            “…the three years of tyrannical authoritarianism I just went through and the way it pits neighbor against neighbor and turns everybody into a snitch were more than enough for me” BoO

            If you really thought that the Covid response was ‘tyrannical authoritarianism’, then you have no idea of what the words mean.

          • Beryl of Oyl June 7, 2023 at 12:34 pm #

            Mike, It was tyrannical authoritarianism. It came straight from the Communist Chinese.

            Can tyrannical authoritarianism do worse? I believe so. That does not alter what I said one iota.

        • mary.m June 5, 2023 at 4:05 pm #

          Russia’s (& all former USSR’s) suffering from the collapse was immense.

          I met 2 bought & paid for brides back around 2010: 1 Russian & 1 Estonian.

          Knowing 1st hand the quality of men in Maine, I could not even imagine having to sell myself that way.

          A lot of people died from it. Alcoholism was rampant. And prostitution.

          I have enormous respect & appreciation for Putin restoring Russia against all odds & US sabotage. At least Russia has enormous resources.

          Who in hell will be our Putin when its our turn? And how replace our wasted & depleted resource?

          Plus Russia’s recovery wasn’t hindered by rayciss Math…

          • Suburban_elk June 6, 2023 at 8:49 am #

            How did their marriages work out?

    • OldJarhead03 June 5, 2023 at 10:50 am #

      Exactly. I’ve been hearing some version of “This time we got ’em” since the Whitewater papers and a semen stain magically appeared. Then of course the whole shit storm magically disappeared, like 30,000 emails.

    • Rowdypiglet June 5, 2023 at 12:16 pm #

      That quote gave me a bit of the “cauld grue.” It seems our host has accepted the possibility that every criminal will now walk free. I’ve always stood with him in retaining the belief that there was some justice to be had and that there was a real chance we’d see it eventually. But my native optimism and hopefulness has been eroded to the point where there’s little left to call upon.

      • Mike Sherman June 5, 2023 at 8:35 pm #

        The sheer blinding incompetence of the GOP’s House Committees – Comer’s & Jordan’s being the most obvious examples – is why “criminals will now walk free”. As if.

        Let’s just wait & watch for Jack Smith’s conclusions and Trump’s obvious treasonous activities will be laid bare. Will he ‘walk’? I suspect not.

  4. mitchellc June 5, 2023 at 10:08 am #

    What’s next is NATO uses this weeks air exercise to go all in.

    If they don’t, then the project folks.

    So it’s the ultimate double down.

    • JC Penny June 5, 2023 at 10:18 am #

      Could be… 82nd and 101st have been forward deployed for almost 6 months now. Getting to the point in the rotation where they either start “peacekeeping” or go home to regenerate. I’m going with the latter due to EU opposition.

    • Islander June 5, 2023 at 10:57 am #

      “What’s next is NATO uses this weeks air exercise to go all in.”

      This is what I fear.

      Of course, those damned Russkies have (I hope) gamed this one out.

      But the outcome might not be pretty.

      • Blackbird June 5, 2023 at 12:12 pm #

        Putin has stated that Russia is prepared for the Ukraine War to last for 3 years. I expect that it will.

        As for the US, this camel already has its nose under the tent. We will send the Z-Man F-16s – and F-15s, maybe even the deadly F-35 – with pilots already installed since there will be no time to train the Ukie Sukhoi pilots. Three years from now we (ok, ~40% of us) will accept the fact that we are on the ground, in the air, and at sea, in the that beautiful bastion of democracy Ukraine, fighting the evil Russians. (“And no one can lead us to victory but Hillary!”)

        Blue-eyed Syria. A meatgrinder for the US, Europe, and Russia. An ATM for the Plutocrats. The Ukraine: how sausage is made.

    • Billy Hill June 5, 2023 at 12:24 pm #

      John Helmer predicted this attack under cover of exercise some time ago so I expect the Russian likely thought of it even before he did.

      If it happens then we are off to WW4 (3 already happened — it was called The Cold War; 4 started with Putin’s Munich speech in 2007).

      This war should be over in about half an hour.

      • Mike Sherman June 5, 2023 at 8:38 pm #

        The Cold War was more like the continuation of WW2 than a ‘war’ in and of itself. WW2 – 1939-1990.

    • reggiezz June 5, 2023 at 2:45 pm #

      Putin will nuke them if they do. There’s no question about it.

  5. lizharmon June 5, 2023 at 10:15 am #

    Ukraine has also called out the duplicitous evil of the left. They with their flags and sunflowers have no problem sacrificing others in their ideological quest. They will find out that karma is indeed a bitch.

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  6. Beryl of Oyl June 5, 2023 at 10:15 am #

    I touched on this last time, but we are watching an empire that already collapsed starting to make a comeback.

    We can learn from this.

    America helped along the demise of the Soviet Union. It was a good thing that it fell apart.

    America is also trying to prevent Russia from coming back from the ashes of that evil empire. That is not a good thing, because they are trying to come back from what communism did to them and the filthy commies in this country are against that.

    Many Ukrainians thought Obama was a good guy. So did many Americans.

    • rainmaker June 5, 2023 at 10:20 am #

      The USA is the evil empire. When it collapses – good riddance.

      • Cankerpuss June 5, 2023 at 10:34 am #

        I was raised believing the USA was a good and decent nation. Since the Gore V Bush debacle I haven’t believed that and what has happened since that mess has even convinced me more. It’s time for the American police state to end and time for what’s left to solve its own problems at home.

        I welcome a collapse of the empire. I just hope what’s left can make something better of it.

        • Beryl of Oyl June 5, 2023 at 10:38 am #

          Remember how the “right” castigated the other side for not wanting to accept the results of the election that the brother of one of the candidates managed to screw up so bad?

        • MaryQueen June 5, 2023 at 10:50 am #

          The people are actually pretty good and decent. Sadly, the good people are under attack, and the degenerates are being given superior status, laws and treatment.

          • JohnAZ June 5, 2023 at 11:02 am #

            Because they are in charge, Mary.

          • Beryl of Oyl June 5, 2023 at 11:15 am #

            Same as the old Soviet Union. It collapsed, we are near that point. It’s coming back.

            People are finding it tolerable to live there. This happened relatively quickly.

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 12:35 pm #

            As Orlov said, America won’t come back the same way Russia did. Too much diversity. No reason for it to come back either logically or morally. The mystic chords of memory have been snipped and the genotype tarnished.

            Whites need something all their own. The Founders believed this, but their commitment to Capitalism was always in opposition to this. Their greed won out.

          • Islander June 5, 2023 at 3:27 pm #


            “Same as the old Soviet Union. It collapsed, we are near that point. It’s coming back.

            People are finding it tolerable to live there. This happened relatively quickly.”

            What odd assertions.
            Of course people—that is, Russians—are finding it tolerable to live in their homeland, Russia.
            Where are you getting these ideas? CNN?What have you been smoking?

            Do you actually know any Russians?
            Do you speak any Russian?
            Have you ever watched one of the 4-hour meetings that Putin holds with the press **and Russian citizens**?

            I am really surprised.

          • Beryl of Oyl June 5, 2023 at 4:02 pm #

            I know a few Russians and a few Ukrainians.

            I also talk to people who are not Russians but who have been there recently.

            The quality of life for the citizens has started to improve from the nadir right after the Union broke up, or so the people who have gone there are saying.

            As I think I have been very clear on before, there are many many different points of view on the situation, and what one person sees is not the same way another person sees it.

            Note I did not claim Russia is some kind of paradise, I stated that we all just saw an empire come to and end and we are witnessing the country coming back from that.

          • Islander June 5, 2023 at 6:36 pm #

            “The quality of life for the citizens has started to improve from the nadir right after the Union broke up, or so the people who have gone there are saying.”

            “started to improve”?


            What has been achieved under Putin is remarkable. It is not just the drastic improvement in the standard of living, diet, etc.shown by data.

            It is also the restoration of confidence and pride in the nation and what its pepole can achieve. Such as building the Kerch Bridge within I think two years. Such as nonviolently saving the Russian-speaking population of Crimea and reintegrating them into the RF. such as stepping onto the world diplomatic stage in Syria and turning making a line in the sand.
            Exactly what we are missing here in the USA.

            As for the Estonian and Ukrainian brides, this was when? Pre-1991? I doubt it.

            See the steep population decline in Estonia after 1991.

            Similar to the Ukraine.
            None of the Baltics have fared well as “little brothers” to the EU. And they blame it all on Stalin.

          • Beryl of Oyl June 7, 2023 at 12:37 pm #

            Not sure what you are finding to argue about, Islander.

        • Yirgach June 5, 2023 at 1:13 pm #

          The collapse is coming no doubt about it.

          Take a gander at this Substack:


          “For the better part of 20,000 centuries of human history, nothing much happened. We spent about 19,960 of those centuries making slightly different variations of one tool made out of a slightly chipped rock before figuring out the whole metal thing. But, even then, nothing really happened until about two centuries ago. Then everything changed.”

          If that doesn’t look like a blow off top then nothing does.

      • Mike Sherman June 5, 2023 at 8:40 pm #

        Where do YOU live, rainmaker? That’s possibly the dumbest thing I’ve ever read, unless you’re not an American.

    • Paula D June 5, 2023 at 11:52 am #

      Ukraine under the USSR was a peaceful and prosperous country, producing many goods needed.

      After 1991 the place fell apart, and much of the population fled to Europe, or turned to sex slavery and surrogacy.

      Notice that as Russia liberates various towns, we hear about how difficult it is to weed out the Kiev regime forces from the fortified factories and apartment buildings, all built before 1991.

      It appears that nothing has been done in Ukraine to improve it since 1991.

      Meanwhile, Americans dutifully chant “It was a good thing that we destroyed the Soviet Union, and they all love us for it.
      Especially the neo-Nazis we have carefully cultivated and taught for the last 30 years. They love us the mostest”.

      Because our rulers are kindly and wise and the whole world is better off for their interventions.

      Yeah, right.

      • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 12:37 pm #

        Some Ukrainians wanted their own thing. Do you respect that or not?

        Or do you feel that the fall of the Soviet Union was the greatest catastrophe of the 20th century as Putin said?

        You have no respect for the aspirations the peoples for nationhood, do you?

        • Paula D June 5, 2023 at 3:45 pm #

          As Putin pointed out, there was no Ukraine until the Soviets created it.
          They got their nation in 1921.

          But that wasn’t enough for the OUN, was it, Jarek?

          Like you, they wanted an ethnically pure homeland. They got their chance with the Nazis and enthusiastically murdered Jews, Poles, Hungarians, Russians, and Ukrainians who didn’t agree with them.

          Then the US supported them after WW2 and they carried on for 10 more years, killing 35,000 more people, until the anti-nazi Ukrainians stopped them.

          I know you sympathize with the OUN and Banderists, and wish you could do it to the non-white population here, but most people don’t think that is a proper way to run a country.

          Hence, the SMO.

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 6:50 pm #

            In other words, there are no Peoples, just people. And thus no reason for borders or nations. Any one who wants such things is a “nazi”, right you muppet?

            Your loathsome communism is on display. And of course Capitalism agrees with it.

          • Paula D June 5, 2023 at 7:21 pm #

            In other words, Genocide is Good, because “Peoples” need to have their own nation, and who are all these other people here?
            They need to go.

            Your loathsome nazism is on full display.

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 11:40 pm #

            Imagine by John Lennon. Paula’s anthem of “love”. An unwitting globalist puppet just like he was.

            Do you love other kids as much as your own? No, right? Ok, shut up then.

          • Suburban_elk June 6, 2023 at 8:57 am #

            Realistically, Nationalism is a compromise, on the question of how should people around the world, be organized into Groups.

            And as a compromise, it is not perfect. For example:
            The nation states that nationalists would advocate for, some of them are more disputed than others.

            A more perfect solution is where everyone gets a choice, in what group they want to live in.

            But if people dnt want to live in Groups, and would rather a One World Order, then that is another possibility.

            In any case there has to be Order.

          • Paula D June 7, 2023 at 4:37 pm #

            I love my kids the best, but it would never occur to me to kill other people’s kids, because they aren’t mine.

            That is the difference.

          • Jarek June 7, 2023 at 10:23 pm #

            So what would you if neighbors left their kids on your porch while they went on a trip around the world? Or better yet, a baby in a basinet, brown of course!

            The Cuckoo lays its eggs in other birds nests. The alien fledgling then proceeds to kick all of the real offspring out of the nest and unto their deaths on the ground below. The parents keep feeding this monster – even when it is bigger than they are.

            This is where Americans are now. Did you know that the word “cuck” comes from Cuckoo? And it is a life or death matter. Who matters more – our kids or theirs?

          • Paula D June 8, 2023 at 3:10 pm #

            “My kids” extends to my 3 children, 1 grandchild, and my niece and nephew, period.

            Any other kids are not mine. I don’t care what color they are- they are not mine.

            I guess because you have no actual children, you seem to think that all white kids are yours.

            That’s you, not me. So no, I don’t think that killing every kid except mine is acceptable. They are all equally Not Mine, so I oppose killing any of them.

          • Paula D June 8, 2023 at 3:20 pm #

            As far as your bizarre assumption that if I found a baby on my porch I should kill it, I would call DCFS, as most people would do.

            Although I had a Mexican-American neighbor who took in a white child when her mother left her with them for almost a year. She did not kill the child, nor did she neglect her own children, she just took care of the extra one.

            They had a birthday party planned for the child, when out of the blue, the mother showed up and took her back “for her birthday”.
            3 days later, she dropped the kid off again, wearing the same clothes, including underwear. The child was filthy and had not had any birthday celebration with her white real mother.

            Eventually, the piece-of-shit mother moved into the neighborhood, with her lowlife boyfriend and their child, who had been born prematurely and seemed brain damage. But he was blond, therefore superior in your eyes.
            Then her drug dealing mother moved in, and when her brother got out of prison for child molestation, she let him move in also.
            I would say they were the worst family I ever saw, but there was another family in the neighborhood, also white, who gave them a run for their money.

            Obviously, I am not impressed with your Banderite plans for ethnic purity.

        • Paula D June 5, 2023 at 3:49 pm #

          And do I have respect for the nation those Banderists have created in the last 9 years (and the 20 before that)?

          No. I already pointed out the poverty and desperation that has driven so many Ukrainians into degrading acts, or emigration, since 1991.

          Why would I respect that? Why do you?

          • Islander June 5, 2023 at 6:39 pm #

            Ukraine, Estonia and the other Baltics—economic and hence social basket cases since 1991.

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 6:52 pm #

            So the village has to be destroyed in order to save it, eh boomer?

            As Dr Duke said, economically poor but genetically rich. That’s worth saving!

    • Blackbird June 5, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

      I don’t think Putin is rebuilding the Russian Empire. It appears to me that he is attempting to rebuild and strengthen the Russian nation – what was left after the collapse of the Soviet Empire.

      To reassemble the Empire would require reincorporating the Islamic ‘stans as well as the east European slavs. Any sign of that happening? Only in the crisis-needing minds of sociopathic US warmongers.

      • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 12:41 pm #

        No need. Old Russia was an empire already, ok? It’s full of Muslims and hostile Mongolian peoples.

        Putin hates the White Nationalists who save part of all this for the real Russian people. And naturally they hate him. Why wouldn’t they?

        Nationalist deep admire Kamal Ataturk because he was willing to give up parts of “Turkey” to make Turkey Turkish again. This is lost of ideologues and fake nationalists.

        • Blackbird June 5, 2023 at 1:20 pm #

          True. Even Kievan Rus and the later Novgorod Republic were multi-ethnic polities of slavs and finns, so no real “nation”.

          As Russia expanded, absorbing more turks, mongols, etc. it became more empire and less nation.

          So Putin is unimperialistically attempting to reconsolidate the old Russian Empire. But no threat to the neighboring stans or slavs.

          I still resent the fact that the turks were allowed to keep Constantinople.

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 1:56 pm #

            But a threat to the Russian people, mixed though they may be. Russian culture dominated in the old mix. In the new one, it will not. Islam will.

          • Paula D June 8, 2023 at 3:31 pm #

            I think you have it mixed up, Blackbird.

            It was the Mongol Empire who expanded, all the way to the Middle East and eastern Europe, including Russia, Iran and Turkey.

            They also controlled China and other Asian countries.

            The Russian Empire came when the Russians threw out the Mongols and inherited their empire. Russia may have absorbed some lands to the west, but they didn’t do the conquering of most their empire themselves.

      • Islander June 5, 2023 at 3:30 pm #

        Similar to the French Revolutionaries, Soviet leaders wanted all citizens to be “assimilated” to a secular national identity.

      • Suburban_elk June 6, 2023 at 9:05 am #

        Putin is a genius and he is trying to do both those things:
        1) strengthen the “Russian” state, which has always been somewhat empire-ish
        2) keep the Russian people first and foremost; IOW do his duty by his blood and soil

        It’s well known, or at least taken as a fact, that the hardcore Russian version of WN’s, hate hate hate Putin; perhaps their take on him is reactionary?

        • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 11:51 am #

          His philosophy seems to be the idiot pan-Asianism of Dugin. As if these peoples willingly put themselves under the Russian yoke.

          Unofficially allowing Chinese to take back part of Siberia is one thing, but allowing millions of Muslims to settle in the Moscow area is something else entirely. He has richly earned the hatred of those who love their people.

          He doesn’t hate his own people. He just doesn’t think they are special or especially love them – not the way he loves “Russia”; as if these two can ever be separated. He doesn’t, putting Russia above the Russian people. The curse of ideology. He inverts the correct relationship.

          As said in Stirling’s Draka series, the official greeting is:

          Glory to the Race.

          And the response is: Service to the State – the unspoken premise being that State which serves the Race.

          • Suburban_elk June 6, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

            He doesn’t, putting Russia above the Russian people. The curse of ideology. He inverts the correct relationship.

            That may be a correct read on his position, and explain the passionate hatred that Russian WN’s have for him.

            In the Oliver Stone documentary on him, which is great, 2 parts, 2016 or so, he does really come across as a business man, first and foremost.

            Apparently he has a rep for being an absolutely brilliant CEO-level manager, among that class.

          • Jarek June 8, 2023 at 12:49 pm #

            Reread the Founding Fathers anent mystic chords of memory. Nations are organic or not at all. It’s not a choice per se as you seemed to indicate above.

            And being organic, they can grow. The various European groups were being incorporated, some being far more difficult. But yes, the process lowered our cultural level and had an exhausting effect – leaving us open for the killing stroke of 3rd World immigration. Of course ordinary people saw it as just more of the same, when in fact it ended all hope for America.

  7. SpeedyBB June 5, 2023 at 10:24 am #

    What will happen with control-and-command procedures for nuclear weapons launches when the psychological aspect of what Mr Kunstler was elaborating on comes apart at the seams?

    The [maybe-it’s-true-maybe-not] Okinawa episode, where a pack of green twenty-somethings were at DEFCON 2, ready to launch Mace 1.2 Megaton-warhead fitted missiles at the USSR and likely the PRC as well.


    Over the next few days, tensions escalated in the Caribbean and the Pentagon raised the nation’s Defense Condition (DEFCON) to level two. Bordne remembers, “Our colonel told us that DEFCON 2 meant we were within 15 minutes of a declaration of nuclear war. If DEFCON 1 was reached, then we would be within five minutes of launching our missiles. A look of dread washed across everyone’s faces, and I felt the blood drain out of mine, too.”
    Havemann shared Bordne’s fear. “Being trained on the nuclear weapons, I knew that the whole world was in great peril. I thought of my family in America, but I could do nothing to help them. I wrote a letter to my mother knowing that if war came it would never get there. But writing it helped me mentally.”
    Meanwhile at Bolo Point, Horn was locked underground for 48 hours. “A sealed canvas bag had been delivered containing our countdown instructions and we were waiting for the red phone to ring with our launch orders from Kadena. When that time came, our officer would have broken the seal. There would have been three separate commands and then we would have launched. We were seconds away from midnight on the nuclear clock.”

    But the telephone stayed silent.


    (There, a nice short URL for ya, sweety)

    • Blackbird June 5, 2023 at 11:54 am #

      “Nuclear War” is a mindfuck to scare the people into obedience. The Masters of the Universe pulling the Big Guy’s strings also pull Putin and Zi’s strings. They won’t allow a nuclear war, it would poison their World Made by Plan.

      • malthuss June 5, 2023 at 3:44 pm #

        I doubt this vague ‘they’ are omnipotent.

        A jihadist or goodness knows who could nuke a city and that could be the start of ww3.

    • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 12:43 pm #

      It’s all just a video game that we’re tired of playing. Might as well get it over with, right Black Pill?

  8. woe June 5, 2023 at 10:26 am #

    I think the reparations scam is to string along gullible progressive and lazy black people to not abandon the democraps, I mean, they are always selling the dream and tomorrow is going to be a better day. They have destroyed communities and families, but all of that will be remedied with check comprised of fiat money. I have fallen out with relatives over their blind faith to the democrats, I almost think that they think they are going to fall off the edge of the world if they think and vote for themselves. I also think that the reparation hustle will be used as a trojan horse to usher in an attempt at implementing CBDC. If the reparation hustles succeed, then that should be a signal the fiat currency is on it’s deathbed and they have called the priest in.

    • Cankerpuss June 5, 2023 at 10:39 am #

      Actually, the $14 trillion reparations plan is brilliant. As you mentioned the half brained Democrat black voters will fall in line as they always do when promised anything from free cell phones and mortgage payoffs to hundreds of thousands of dollars in their bank accounts.

      Here’s where it gets brilliant. By the time they print $14 trillion to cover these reparations the dollar will be so worthless that the money the descendants of slaves will receive will be of little worth and the Federal Government will have already spent the $14 trillion before the dollar collapse happens. Essentially, they make a promise to the blacks and don’t pay a promised dime to them.

      • Alfred June 5, 2023 at 10:53 am #

        The democrats have been doing that to Black people since JFK’s assassination and LBJ’s ascension. And they fall for it every time.

        The debt of reparations was paid in full with the blood of the men and women that fought to make Juneteenth a holiday.

        • Anthea June 5, 2023 at 10:56 am #

          @ Alfred:

          The blacks in the post-Civil-War South were promised 40 acres and a mule, and they never got that, either.

          • Alfred June 5, 2023 at 11:38 am #

            Yes. You are correct. And?

          • Billy Hill June 5, 2023 at 12:29 pm #

            Who made that promise?

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 12:47 pm #

            So they should get reparations or something? What are you saying? Do you even know?

          • Anthea June 6, 2023 at 11:41 pm #

            @ Alfred:

            Merely an observation.

      • elysianfield June 5, 2023 at 11:41 am #

        No. The brilliance of the plan is that they never intended to give blacks any money at all…just a promise of money. For the simple amongst the tribe, this will be another outrage, another reason to kill whitey, another reason to feel victimized.

        Blacks have for years been weaponized by the government. This is another method to energize the hatred already extent. The blacks are but useful idiots in another Marxist scheme to destabilize the country, destroy infrastructure, and balkanize the population.

        Say it ain’t so….

        • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 12:49 pm #

          Saw you take on Aesop. What a clueless punk he is when it comes to diversity. Ca woke up to this and is now a White Nationalist. But many of the old writers still fly the bloody rag of equality.

        • JackStraw June 5, 2023 at 3:53 pm #

          The Dems will push the plan to keep the carrot in front of blacks, knowing full well that no money will ever get paid, and they’ll have the added bonus of Republicans opposing it quite vocally, thus cementing the continued idiotic support of black voters.

          Very smart politics.

      • Blackbird June 5, 2023 at 11:50 am #

        That “$14 trillion” is just a marketing trick for the terminally dyslexic. The real price tag will be $41 trillion – $1 million for every black in the country, regardless of origin, because they are all victims of whiteness. Available by CBDC only of course.

        That will trigger the hyper-inflation that has been foaming at the mouth to charge out of the barn, finally driving a stake through the black soul of our economy. That $41 T will be back in the hands of the plutocrats within a year, and the benighted blacks will once again be peacefully celebrating in the flaming streets (for which they will be paid via CBDC).

        • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 12:51 pm #

          We could send them back to Wakanda at any time. The best among the Elite wanted to do this. But the bad knew that they would be useful – and of course they prevailed.

        • Q. Shtik June 5, 2023 at 2:12 pm #

          $1 million for every black in the country, – Blackbird


          Just how Black will a person have to be to get a cut of the reparations pie? How many drops of Black blood?

          Surely you all know there are virtually no pure Blacks in the US and those who are “pure” have no connection to US slavery. I’m already mentally scheming to carry a fake DNA test in my wallet (like the Covid Vaxx document) that says I’m XX% Black. I wonder what the threshold % will be…10. 25, 50%?

          Lets say someone’s “as black as the ace of spades” and their DNA says they’re 87% Black. Do they get 87% of $1,000,000?

          What if a person is the offspring of several generations of mixed marriages and essentially passes as White. The backroom negotiations on a reparations plan are going to be something to behold.

          But let’s say some plan manages to be approved politically and on some magic day the CBDC entries arrive in the bank accounts. There will be umpteen millions of “nigger-rich” people lined up at the liquor stores and Cadillac dealers. The resulting inflation will be incredible. And all that spending will flow in one year right into the hands of the already super wealthy.

          • Q. Shtik June 5, 2023 at 2:19 pm #

            of mixed marriages – Q


            …or hook-ups or one-night stands.

            The road to hell is paved with reparations.

          • Night Owl June 5, 2023 at 5:02 pm #

            What is a “mixed marriage,” Q-tip?

            Is English your mother tongue?

          • Suburban_elk June 6, 2023 at 9:07 am #

            Surely you all know there are virtually no pure Blacks in the US

            So you never been to Mississippi.

          • Blackbird June 7, 2023 at 11:40 am #

            I’m supposed to figure out everything?

            Well, ok.

            Option 1) The Treasury Department sends out notices to everyone listed by the census as black (that 41 million number comes from somewhere), inviting them to sign up for free money and get sinus-swabbed by one of those giant Q-tips. You get your money – for a few weeks – we get your DNA – forever. Doesn’t matter “how black” you are – if your mommy was white but you call yourself black, you are 100% victim. The DNA test is not for proof, just sample collection.

            Option 2) (I kinda like this one more.) A nationwide announcement goes across the airwaves, “Black folks, sign up to get your free money!” (Includes free sinus swab!) Everyone who “identifies” as black shows up at the sign-up locations – conveniently placed in parts of town that need to burn. The would-be recipients decide amongst themselves who is really black. (Let’s put the power back in black hands shall we?) I think things will sort out rather quickly with the “Black Community” calling the shots. Within the first couple seconds: “Bish you ain’t black!” A folding chair materializes seemingly from nowhere and crashes down on the head of a morbidly obese blue-haired thing that looks pretty damned white to me. Peaceful celebrations, malt liquor, and Cadillacs – well ain’t that America?

          • Blackbird June 7, 2023 at 11:41 am #

            Those damned italics

          • Tate June 8, 2023 at 2:59 am #

            I’d get $10,000 no sweat. I’ve got the Ubangi creds to prove it. I guarantee I could turn that $10K into $100K in one year. Them joggers be like, “Who dis ofay mufukah?”

        • Islander June 5, 2023 at 3:38 pm #


          I can see that they might try to get the CBDC ball rolling by sending out “checks” to African Americans. Though how they would choose from the pool of recipients is unclear.

          Maybe everyone who gets AFDC would start getting that money as the new digital currency.

          It might be smart to do the rollout incrementally and to start with the social groups who are the most likely to accept the new deal without asking questions. .

          • elysianfield June 9, 2023 at 1:20 am #

            Good point on the CBDC….

      • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 12:46 pm #

        As someone said, If you start giving away free snacks, say cookies, Blacks will start a riot to get them – even though they already have better stuff at home. They’re children in adult bodies.

        There are Whites like this of course. But not nearly as many per capita.

        • SpeedyBB June 5, 2023 at 3:18 pm #

          The astonishing lack of impulse control is what dismays me so much.

          Black guy walking down the street in Chicago with girlfriend. She gives a squeal because some water has dribbled down onto her from above.

          Boyfriend, enraged, rushes into the building they were passing, assuming that is where the water has been spilled from, and shoots dead the first guy he encounters.

          Thereby ruining at least three lives: his victim, his girlfriend and his own, not to mention all those depending on these three.

          And for what?

          I looked for a news story on the event (from around 2018) but there were so many similar ones I couldn’t find it. Example:


          • Billy Hill June 5, 2023 at 3:51 pm #

            Ask Chris Rock about the Slap Heard ‘Round The World. Good thing they have metal detectors at the Oscars.

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 6:47 pm #

            Two lives ruined, one life saved: the girlfriend.

      • malthuss June 5, 2023 at 3:45 pm #

        GIBS ME DAT.

        If you dont know that term, school yourself.

    • JohnAZ June 5, 2023 at 10:47 am #


      It doesn’t even rhyme with college loans.

      It smells the same though.

      It stinks like political Bullshit.

      Like the most corrupt pile of unrealized horse manure in history.

      It is a measure of the stupidity of one group of people inside the Stupidification of America.

      It is a measure of how much the gimme attitude runs this country now.

      Guess what folks, the Boomers are all retiring and with them goes most of the American work ethic.

      • Anthea June 5, 2023 at 11:08 am #

        John AZ:

        I’m hearing that it’s very hard to find skilled people now. Engineering firms are poaching each other’s engineers. I know one guy who is skilled at quite a number things, but is highly eccentric–a big pothead and not a good fit in the corporate world–who has rolled from one relatively high-paying job to another. A Gen-Xer. Most recently, he landed a job as a robotics engineer. (Before that, he was a commercial plumber.) Ten years ago, he probably would not have been hired, due to work history alone.

        Of course, now that I think of it, quite a high percentage of Gen-Xers are big potheads. I once had an IT job where half the employees (mostly Gen-X) spent every lunch hour smoking pot in the parking lot, in someone’s car. At one place where I worked with Gen-Xers, the restroom often smelled of pot. At yet another, the younger employees sometimes asked me if I liked Scooby Doo. I didn’t know what they were talking about, so I replied that I was not a fan. I later realized that they spent all their breaks smoking pot together behind the building.

        Anyway, the way it looks to me, employers can no longer afford to be fussy about who they hire, and they have a very hard time finding anyone who is even remotely able to do the job.

        • Blackbird June 5, 2023 at 11:40 am #

          “Anyway, the way it looks to me, employers can no longer afford to be fussy about who they hire…”

          Maybe you’re looking in the wrong direction. I know someone who was turned down for a low-paying, temporary job – a job he had held previously, 30 years earlier! – due to testing positive for cannabis (“trace level”) on a pre-employment drug screen. That in a state – Michigan – where cannabis is legal medically and recreationally.

          Many job postings – particularly in government and medicine – require “vaccination” against “Covid”.

          But I do agree that – largely due to stupid invalidating criteria – “they have a very hard time finding anyone who is even remotely able to do the job”. My experience over the past few years is that virtually everyone in every position is incompetent, and rewarded by being so by their equally incompetent supervisors.

          • Anthea June 5, 2023 at 12:22 pm #

            My impression is that drug-testing is kind of a game. I’ve had several jobs where I was pretty sure that at least half of the employees were potheads–despite a stated policy of drug testing.

            My guess is that, if someone is a good employee, they either don’t test them or quietly ignore a positive test. But if they want to get rid of someone (and they’re pretty sure they’ll fail a drug test), that’s their way of firing them. In other words, I think it’s just a personnel management tool.

            Where they have an employee who is really bad news, but who is obviously not a drug user, they will often transfer them to another location (one that results in a long commute), in hopes they will quit.

            In the case you’re talking about, the guy was applying for a low-skilled job. There are plenty of such people around. I was really talking about highly skilled jobs. Some Gen-Xers have accumulated a strong knowledge base and skill base over their lives–in stuff like commercial plumbing, electronics, robotics, and IT. But not very many of them.

            What I hear is going on in engineering is that the old guard of Boomers is retiring, and the young people coming out of college can’t do much of anything (probably due to being poorly educated) and don’t seem to be able to learn to do anything. So engineering companies have their head-hunters out poaching the good, experienced employees from the other companies.

            As far as I know, the requirement to be vaxxed was not common in this part of the country. One of my daughters worked as a respiratory therapist all through the covid years and was never required to be vaxxed–though there was a lot of propaganda–but no real pressure. Other people I know who work for large corporations were not required to be vaxxed. I don’t know any city, state, or federal government employees any more. The ones in my age group are all retired.

            I’m in the Kansas City metro area. I think that people in this area were far more resistant to the vax that has ever been acknowledged–especially outside the city.

            I also suspect that many of the more rural counties mostly ignored the covid propaganda, though I don’t get out to the more remote areas very often. I’m told that if you visited the town nearest me during covid, it was like a different world: No businesses were closed, and no one was masked. It was like they had never heard of covid.

          • Blackbird June 5, 2023 at 12:53 pm #

            I’d agree that drug testing is mostly a personnel management/manipulation tool. Unless you’re an addict, the only drug most people will get popped for is cannabis. Cannabis can show up in a blood sample 2 months post-use. Cocaine, heroin, stuff like that – more like 3 days. Alcohol, you’d pretty much have to piss in a cup while drunk. So as far as screening employees, pretty much useless.

            I worked in a company where 2 of the VP were potheads (although I don’t see that their cannabis use negatively impacted the company), and yet only one employee, a technician, was ever drug-tested. Drug-tested repeatedly – despite constantly testing negative. One reason: he and his boss were fucking the same girl in the accounting department.

            That same company employed a whore who scared off many clients, mismanaged every project, and alienated every co-worker. She kept her job by fucking whomever she needed to fuck (including pothead VP) to stay on top. In return she got credit for projects that others managed and others were punished for her failures.

            In my extensive and varied work history, I have found that what constitutes a “good” employee is one that is management’s bitch. Management is almost always corrupt and incompetent – from the smallest, most insignificant company, to the largest and most successful – and they protect and support their kind.

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 12:55 pm #

            Anthea is all over the place. She was a tripper in her youth, but now listen to her. She thinks men should “man up”, be Corporate slaves because that’s the best way to make lots of money and be good slaves to women.

            That’s the mentality that got us to where we are now.

            The best trippers were changed – forever.

          • Blackbird June 5, 2023 at 12:58 pm #

            If the guy who was denied the job he held 30 years earlier due to a whiff of old pot smoke in his blood had shown up for his interview wearing women’s clothes and gobs of poorly applied make-up, I’m sure he’d have been hired on the spot and given an instant promotion, probably even given medicated gummies to help ween him off his “addiction”, such is the political correctness of the of the organization to which he was applying.

          • Blackbird June 5, 2023 at 1:11 pm #

            “The best trippers were changed – forever.”

            Of course they were. No one passes through “the great magnetic field” and comes back the same person.

            But as we were taught by Barry-O, the Black Jesus, not all “Change” is good.

          • Paula D June 5, 2023 at 1:31 pm #

            My son only went to college for one semester. He never was much of a school person.

            How he got the job he has now is he took an online test from some kind of headhunting corporation. I’m not clear on the details.

            Anyway, they hired him for his skills, not his (non-existent) degree.

            My IBM retired brother-in-law says that they mostly rely on H1B workers, but they will also take Americans who have ability.

            Drug tests are urine tests, alcohol is a blood test, by the way.

          • Q. Shtik June 5, 2023 at 2:38 pm #

            One reason: he and his boss were fucking the same girl in the accounting department. – Blackbird


            I confess, I laughed my ass off at this line. The reason: When something nefarious is happening it always seems to be with somebody in the accounting department.

        • Yirgach June 5, 2023 at 1:22 pm #

          I’ve notice that the cannabis nowadays is much, much stronger than the ditchweed we used to smoke back in the 60’s. When you hear terms like “couch lock” that doesn’t sound too healthy.

          Could be why the Gen-X just don’t seem to give a sh*t about their jobs or responsibilities in general.

          Another reason why the place is going down the tubes.

          • Q. Shtik June 5, 2023 at 2:45 pm #

            What does couch lock mean?

            A state of idleness, laziness, or inactivity brought about by excessive consumption of drugs, typically marijuana.

          • malthuss June 5, 2023 at 3:47 pm #

            Yes, GMO weed or many generations of selectively bred cannabis = way too strong stuff.

          • Q. Shtik June 5, 2023 at 10:45 pm #

            selectively bred cannabis = way too strong stuff. – malthuss


            I myself prefer “kick-ass” pot.

          • Yirgach June 6, 2023 at 12:51 pm #

            Inactivity is a mild way to describe couch lock.

            If you dexoycarbolate the stuff correctly and start adding it to food you can literally paralyze yourself for a day or so.

            It’s insidious as it creeps up on you as your body starts to metabolize the THC. It is the strongest, most direct effect and is not recommended for medicinal use.

            Be very, very careful when using edibles.

      • ThorsHammer June 8, 2023 at 3:49 pm #


        Do you mind if I graft my story onto yours?

        Governor Gruesome spies another opportunity to increase his Political Capital. His reparations program was only partially successful because the first tranche of recipients were all attacked and killed by the second group who were angered that they hadn’t got theirs yet. When it was all over there weren’t enough black ex slaves to distribute all the money to.

        So Gruesome sent out invitations to ten thousand street people in Calcutta including first class airline tickets and vouchers to stay in one of the recently closed five star hotels in San Francisco. He didn’t get a single taker. ” Come to your third world city and wade through feces and needles on the sidewalks? You’ve got to be kidding!”

  9. lateStarter June 5, 2023 at 10:30 am #

    My guess is that if push comes to shove and Joe Biden faces some charges or even an investigation (highly unlikely) team Biden will play the ‘dementia’ card and he will be returned to his basement in Delaware still thinking he is the president. They could even arrange for some interns to show up once in a while and conduct some question and answer sessions for his benefit.

    Hunter will be shown to have been a deep undercover agent. The degeneracy was all an act and part of his cover. This will be his get out jail card.

    At this point, I don’t believe that any capable sane candidate for president will make an appearance. Who would want to be in charge when the house of cards collapses?

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder June 5, 2023 at 9:30 pm #

      After all, 007 could have been photographed in virtually endless compromising positions of the same nature. With a cigarette hanging out of his mouth as well…

  10. Beryl of Oyl June 5, 2023 at 10:31 am #

    Bobby Jr. has been talking about Ukraine quite a bit. I have seen it stated that he is getting bashed from both sides for trying to have a nuanced view of the situation.

    If you ignore the Biden angle, you will never have a comprehensive view of the issue.

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  11. stonned June 5, 2023 at 10:31 am #

    ” Have you forgotten our Ukraine project (Let’s you and him fight)? The idea was to bleed Russia dry because, you know… Russia! (They meddle in our elections… they collude with Trump… they tamper with our hopes and dreams….) It was years in the making, impeccably gamed-out in the State Department’s sub-basement.”

    Not in the “basement”.

    And THAT specifically is WHY we are in the COLLAPSE to begin with.

    The TRAITORS perpetrating ALL these TREASONOUS activities over the MANY decades, perhaps a CENTURY or more, are the “ELECTED” representatives who have sold their souls for the $$$ and POWER, to a relatively SMALL group of ULTRA WEALTHY FEUDALISTS, interested ONLY in THEIR hegemony over the peoples of this earth. The latest iteration….WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM. Have a look at its membership roster, and then TRY to do a DEEP DIVE on the majority shareholders of BLACKROCK, VANGUARD, STATE STREET, JP MORGAN, GOLDMAN SACHS, ETC, and you will hit a CONCRETE AND STEEL wall of TRUSTS and FOUNDATIONS which make it IMPOSSIBLE to identify the RATS at the TOP of the CRIMINAL SYNDICATE which RULES this world.

    But you aren’t interested in knowing about these people…only the STUPEFIED morons in the basement of the White House who are the equivalent of GARBAGE MEN to the people who OWN this joint.

    I’d write more, but what’s the point.

    YOU know MORE then I do about them…

    but NO ONE dares to speak the truth for reasons of FEAR.

    And THAT is why we are living in this nightmare rerun of WEIMAR V2.0

    • JohnAZ June 5, 2023 at 10:49 am #

      Yes, write more!

    • mrs_saj June 5, 2023 at 11:13 am #


      Thanks for mentioning specific company names: BLACKROCK, VANGUARD, STATE STREET, JP MORGAN, GOLDMAN SACHS.

      Keep posting, you add to the dialogue.

      • Paula D June 5, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

        The first three for sure being large pension fund holders, raking in the 401Ks for decades of each worker’s life, with NO expectation of returning dividends, since they are “re-invested” yearly in more and more dastardly deeds.

        So American workers are funding their own destruction, thinking that some day they will personally profit from it.

        Not bloody likely.

    • Woodchuck June 5, 2023 at 11:35 am #

      I see some interest here in the Weimar republic. It keeps getting mentioned along with the topic of popular sexual deviancies or whatever you wish to call it. Munich went through some periods of chaos and disorder during this era. It seems for a while the Nazis and the Communists were struggling to seize power over Bavaria and actually engaged each other in street battles using anything from fists to firearms. They debated, argued, and preached at each other in the huge beer halls. These places had stages inside them for presenting acts ranging from polka bands to Hitler harangues. The Communists would show up at the halls when Hitler was speaking and they’d heckle him. Even back in the early days of the Nazi party, heckling Hitler could have bad results. His Brown Shirt organization was also on the scene in those days and they’d beat up hecklers. Somehow, the Nazi party ended up being better organized and more skilled in thuggery, and the beer hall rabble rousing ended with a failed attempt at overthrowing the Weimar authorities in Munich. Hitler cooled his heels in jail for a while.

      Apparently this short lived German republic had no leaders in it that could get the country all on the same page and working together again. This sounds like what we are seeing in the US right now. The general mood everywhere during Weimar was that nobody was in charge of things and that their governing bodies were so weak and pathetic that it was basically all up for grabs. The political group with the most power had a good chance at taking control away from Weimar.

      We are developing this same spirit of chaos, disunity, and delusional crackpot thinking everywhere, we have no capable leaders and we are coming apart at the seams – just like Weimar. So who will show up on the scene to get us all back on the same page again? When will our Great Leader arrive to repair all these problems. Can Trump fix us? Or are we to suffer the fate of Humpty Dumpty and become just another large land mass like Africa or South America with no central government?

      • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 1:09 pm #

        The Nazis were denied access to the media so they took to the streets – and were immediately attacked by the Anarchists and Communists.

        After 13 years, 25,000 casualties, and more than 300 deaths, they triumphed – and Woody thinks that’s a bad thing. The triumph of conditioning.

        Woody just wants peasant culture. And who would have allowed that? Who even glorified that? The Nazis. Woody can’t forgive them for being intellectual and good with technology. But peasants will not be left alone without such protection from the higher castes.

        I respect Woody as a Sudra. But in his contempt for the highest castes, he displays a leveler or communist mentality. Sad! And confused…..

      • SpeedyBB June 5, 2023 at 10:50 pm #

        I propose that we produce “Weimar!” as a Broadway musical, starring “President Joe Biden” as Paul von Hindenburg and – you guessed it! – Hitlery Clinton as the one he appoints Chancellor.

        Mark Milley can play Göring, in whiteface of course, and Antony Blinken as a kinder, gentler Joseph Göbbels.

        Admiral Rachel Levine as Eva Braun? Sure, why not take a few liberties…

    • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 1:03 pm #

      Yes, the Plan to conquer the world was launched thousands of years ago in Babylon during the captivity.

      Napoleon put one of them in jail and nothing changed. He was still running the banking system from his cell. He buried him in the depths of the Bastille – no visitors – and things improved.

      Yes. And who crushed the evil Weimar Republic? Instead of answering forthrightly, people try to conflate the Nazis and Weimar – as if they were the same thing.

      I’ve been talking to people for many years now – and my opinion of the average person has plummeted. The average person is a mental coward. So even if they have a superior IQ, it doesn’t help them. And many just aren’t really interested. Their minds are for making money. And their politics will be in line with that, effortlessly.

      • Woodchuck June 5, 2023 at 6:41 pm #

        “in Babylon during the captivity”. Really? Conquer the world?

        I see more hints – “one of them”. Heh, I wonder who “they” are!
        Hmmm, running the banking system from a jail cell? Maybe that’s another hint.

        The Weimar Republic came about partly from US meddling in WWI and making all sorts of demands on the defeated Germans. Wilson and his cronies believed the Germans were responsible for starting the war. The US somehow thought it was our responsibility to get involved in European land wars. We did this while sorta claiming a position as the planet’s nanny. We had a mission to keep the world “safe for democracy”. Before the Weimar republic came about there were German monarchs and bluebloods that had a lot of influence in the day to day management of Germany. The Bavarians had their king and the Prussians had their Kaiser and so on. A very successful system had been in place for centuries and for a time Germany’s industrial and scientific capabilites were obvious in the later part of the 1800’s. For example the Germans once utterly dominated the field of organic chemistry. It’s no coincidence that most all of the big pharma companies have German names. When Germany was well managed it was a powerhouse with a thriving economy.

        The people managing the Weimar Republic had poor managerial and leadership skills. They were outside their league and skillsets. The Germans were justifably angry with the blueblood engineered catastrophe of WWI and the suffering they endured after war’s end because they lost. They didn’t want people associated with the old system to be in control anymore. They wanted new people. Down with the old aristocracy!

        The problem with all that was the new people they elected were even more incompetent than their once influential but now hated bluebloods. The church and its teachings also became a target of public wrath, people were also fed up with church BS that suddenly seemed very transparent to them. Thus maybe the over-reaction with “sexual freedom”. Somehow the church back in the day was very much concerned and obsessed with the idea that God spies on us having sex and if we are doing it wrong we’re to be punished. Or maybe even go blind. Or something.

      • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 11:56 am #

        You have a certain low peasant wisdom. The Nazis would have allowed you to not have electricity, to not bathe, and to shit in an outhouse. The Communist would not have.

        You could have mated with large breasted peasant girls under the full moon at beer festivals. Just remember Shakespeare’s dictum that alcohol increases desire but decreased performance.

        You can’t keep a good peasant down unless you put him down as Stalin did the Kulaks.

        • Woodchuck June 6, 2023 at 2:04 pm #

          I’m not ready or willing to give up electricity just yet. I’m addicted to electric power tools and gas powered equipment like rototillers and mowers. I’m too old to be using a hoe for hours on end, too old to be using a scythe.

          I’m still young enough to go for a week or more without bathing because I used to be a stinky and grubby packpacker at times in my youth. I learned by experience that there was no need to panic if you haven’t bathed in many days and smell like hell. You’ll be able to get through your day just fine. Maybe stinking helps discourage bug bites. You will have a problem if you try to get friendly with or try to hustle a non backpacking lady in some small town. She’ll take one look and one sniff of you and start walking away in a hurry. If you are looking for a companion you’ll have to find another backpacker. Now in the Long Emergency, with energy being unreliable or unavailable at times, all the gals will stink as well and won’t look at you like yer a cockroach.

          As old as I am coming from hillbilly country I don’t mind backyard outhouses, there’s no need to be frightened because they don’t smell good. There is something to watch out for if you are using one in summer that’s not been occupied by anyone since winter. A horrifying surprise can happen if your pants are down and you plop down on an outhouse seat that has a wasp nest underneath and close to the hole. If you are a guy you are offering the wasps a juicy target hanging down there right in front of them. With your pants down your body will be trying to run at full speed but the brakes are on because your pants are in the way. These sorts of adventures make men tough and better able to fight for the fatherland. Nazis shrug these things off – it’s pussies that make rural events like this into the greatest calamity of one’s life and leaving them with PTSD. Communists protect their citizens from those eeeeeeeeevil wasps!

          Although the Nazi party was born in Bavaria it later failed to get any majority support from the Bavarians. The Bavarian crown prince opposed Hitler and eventually had to flee Germany along with his family, It was the Protestant Germans in the industrial areas of the nation – the sour and dour Prussian workaholic types that made very good machinists and engineers – that’s where the most support was for Nazism.

          If God had decided a long time ago that Jarek was to be born in Germany, and that Jarek had to choose what part of Germany, I’d guess Prussia or somewhere in Calvinist or Lutheran territory in the North. Jarek seems skeptical of some of the notorious partying that’s been going on in Munich ever since the early 1800’s. A harvest festival full moon blowout with big breasted blonde Aryan super ladies with not much cloth hiding their hooters bringing beer in heavy liter glass mugs. Hey Jarek, what if it turns out that heaven is a never ending Oktoberfest with Jesus daily changing water into the finest beer?

          • Jarek June 7, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

            So do you admit that the Nazis were fine with all this, but the Communists would not have been?

            And if so, why do you hold the views that “you” hold? If you know, act like you know.

            The Nazis tried to balance out their promethean (which easily becomes asshole) project with a love of the small, humble, domestic, and natural.

            Remember lovely Judy from Lost in Space? A daughter of the SS breeding program. Of course they were more beautiful than other people, of course! They were picked men breeding with picked women. Eugenics is real as is dysgenics. Americans prefer the random nature of latter. Fucking someone who just met at a bar – that’s romance. The horror revealed in the morning light, the desperate attempt to get out before she awakens – all of this is good copy for the cheap novels.

            I preferred the dark Penny. Such is the complexity of my nature.

    • Q. Shtik June 5, 2023 at 2:54 pm #

      YOU know MORE then I do about them… – stonned


      should be than

      Also, your use of all-uppercase words is excessive to say the least.

      • malthuss June 5, 2023 at 3:49 pm #

        and YOU could have started with –Stonned.

      • Night Owl June 5, 2023 at 5:00 pm #

        Your misuse of the hyphen is an embarassment to ESL students everywhere, Q-tip.

        • Anthea June 7, 2023 at 12:01 am #

          @ Night Owl:

          Yes, I think that’s the rule about how you don’t hypenate an adverb to the word it modifies, “all” being the adverb modifying the adjective “uppercase.”

          An adverb is a word modifying a verb, an adjective, or another adverb.

          I did have to think about this for a minute or two, but I think I would have instinctively not hyphenated these words.

          Karl Denninger is always hyphenating things all willy-nilly, especially adverbs. He’s always writing things like “very-rapid.”

      • stonned June 6, 2023 at 7:36 am #

        THANK YOU for YOUR criticism.
        I will endeavor to make EVERY effort to appease, uh, I mean PLEASE you in ANY future post(S).

  12. Beryl of Oyl June 5, 2023 at 10:46 am #

    Whatever that was with Twitter and that What Is A Woman video, Elon Musk has now got many more people looking at it than it ever would have gotten before.

    Leftist feminists and true conservatives are finding common ground with this issue.

    Yes they are. I was just talking to a formerly Democrat-leaning ardent feminist this past weekend.

    There are more of us than there are of them.

    Both political parties fully embrace the LGBTQ agenda. despite their pathetic bleatings about protecting women’s sports.

    To Hell with both parties, a plague on both their houses (hey that happened already) and while we won’t like what follows, it won’t be any worse than what we have now.

    • JohnAZ June 5, 2023 at 11:01 am #

      The LBGTQ group have pulled a power move on society, like the Jewish or Mormon group, moving into the power positions in politics, media, finance, corporations, then hiring their “kind” exclusively behind them. At a certain point, they exercise their power to take over. Why not, that is the purpose of power. BLM, has attempted the same thing in the cities with lots of help from the WEF.

      China is using the same technique on the West Coast, both in the US and Canada. The Mexican cartels are being supported by the CCP also.

      Dads for a long time have taught their sons to fight back at bullies to stop the bullying attitude. The USA has forgotten this lesson. The cowards occupying Foggy Bottom will never fight back against foreign or domestic enemies. Their oath of office is a joke, and all of us are the targets of the joke.

      • JohnAZ June 5, 2023 at 11:10 am #

        One of the worst examples of this is the invasion of the education system through the teachers’ unions. The level of LBTGQ baloney, BLM too, in the public education sector is sickening. Teachers teaching depravity in spite of parental disapproval should be jailed.

        Something has to stop the tidal wave of not liberalism, but depravity taking over the majority of the country.

        • Woodchuck June 5, 2023 at 11:45 am #

          Something will stop the tidal wave of depravity. Maybe it’s called “grinding economic calamity” – or Great Depression 2.0. The sort of calamity that reduces everyone’s living standards down to serious poverty. The sort of calamity that would happen sometimes to ancient Israel in the Old Testament. God gets angry and events take place like Babylon invading, kicking asses, and hauling everyone off into captivity in another land. These events tend to sober everyone up.

          • stonned June 6, 2023 at 7:38 am #

            YES !
            Woodchuck, there’s SO much to look forward to !
            I can hardly wait !

          • Anthea June 7, 2023 at 12:30 am #

            As long as things don’t get too far out of hand, hard times can be kind of enjoyable. There is a certain feeling of exhilaration that you get from cutting or splitting firewood on a snowy day, or whipping up a big batch of bread pudding for dessert.

      • Yirgach June 5, 2023 at 1:39 pm #

        Lisa Logan has a Twitter thread discussing the rise of the PGLE.
        PGLE is a group of 270+ companies who’ve signed on to the United Nations Standards of Conduct to advance LGBTQI+ policy in their governance, in the business market & in communities.

        “They also commit to establishing metrics (ESG/CEI) to monitor compliance to these standards. They control the investments of private companies and even schools through the use of tese compliance metrics.

        Companies who are members of the PGLE use tools like the UN LGBTIQ+ Standards Gap Analysis Tool, the UN Global Compact’s WEP’s Gender Gap Analysis Tool & the Human Rights Campaign Foundation’s 2022 Corporate Equality Index (CEI) to assess how “inclusive” their practices are then report the results of those to banks and investors who hold those businesses accountable to Environmental Social and Governance (ESG) metrics.

        ESG, CEI and UN/WEF Standards for businesses are putting a stranglehold on corporations, allowing unelected bureaucrats to drive the adoption of unconstitutional policies & practices that government wouldn’t be able to put into law.”


        Funded by UknowWho – his initals are Gearge Soros.

        • Islander June 5, 2023 at 3:51 pm #

          Polly St. George made a video about this quite some time ago: How credit will be cut off to companies, even corporations, that don’t toe the depraved line.

          “WOKE CREDIT? Uh-oh. The Global Extortion Racket Just Got More Dangerous”


          Powerful CEOs and boards of director are in better positions to shut down this BS than we are.

        • MaryQueen June 5, 2023 at 6:28 pm #

          Yep. Any company who refuses won’t get loans and will be ostracized. Therefore, they all need to get behind the LGBTQ+++ agenda.

        • mrs_saj June 9, 2023 at 10:31 am #


          No wonder my personal boycott list has become so long! Every time I turn around some dumb ass CEO has inserted foot and is chewing vigorously.

    • LagingRunatic June 5, 2023 at 11:03 am #

      Amen, Beryl, amen.

      Jim’s recent podcast with CJ Hopkins is another sign of the very productive breakdown of a model that’s well past its still date – that of Left and Right. There’s folks with pattern recognition, folks whose salaries depend on “compromised” pattern recognition, and a whole lot of sleepwalkers.

      • Q. Shtik June 5, 2023 at 3:08 pm #

        well past its still date – LagingRunatic


        sell, perhaps?

        • Night Owl June 5, 2023 at 4:58 pm #

          Try using caps in your writing, Q-tip.

          It is what native speakers of English do.

          • SpeedyBB June 6, 2023 at 2:56 am #

            Some native squeakers do. ee cummings didn’t.

          • Islander June 6, 2023 at 4:37 pm #

            e e cummings

    • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 1:23 pm #

      Such Feminists opened the door to this evil and countless other evils as well. There can no be alliance such as they.

      Come out from among them!

    • Heartlander June 5, 2023 at 2:33 pm #

      There’s a group now called Gays Against Groomers that is fighting against all the pedo-trans shit.

      I’m not gay, but I sure like this group, especially the billboards they’re putting up.

      • Soul Forensics June 5, 2023 at 3:15 pm #

        Gays dropped several pegs (excuse the pun) down the totem pole of victim Olympics. There’s a lot of hyper-vitriol in those who identify as victims who get a boost of acceptance, only to have it taken it away from them, this time by the trans agenda and the always-increasing Black power movements.

        The trans idiocy will end in ever-increasing absurdity and hilarity. The 43rd letter of LGBTQFR#H*!SIM&N+ fighting with the 37th letter over the last crumbs of the thin pie slice.

        • Suburban_elk June 6, 2023 at 9:20 am #

          They can’t stop dropping pegs, it’s what they do.

  13. SteveK9 June 5, 2023 at 10:50 am #

    Not, ‘because … Russia’. The Ziocons (Nuland, Blinken, Kagan, Sherman, etc.) have a long-standing historical hatred of Russia.

    • JohnAZ June 5, 2023 at 11:16 am #

      Well, when the Nazi nuts attacked the Jews from the west, the Stalinists attacked them from the east, trying to communize places like Ukraine and failing so, killed more people than Hitler did.

      Could it be that Jews today look at Russia with the same loathing as Germany?

      To them, Russia is not the USSR or Stalin.

      • JohnAZ June 5, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

        Bad last sentence.

        For the Jews today, Russia is not the USSR or Stalin.

      • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 1:27 pm #

        The Communist revolution was a Jewish coup. While they were bickering about who would take over, Stalin did. He wasn’t against them until they threw in with the West because of Israel. He came to realize that they never had any deep commitment to Communism or Russia. It was only ever a vehicle for them. They don’t “believe” in things you see. They believe in themselves. Something we could learn from them.

        Grow up.

        • Q. Shtik June 5, 2023 at 3:16 pm #

          They don’t “believe” in things you see. – Jarek


          I guess that means they believe in invisible things.


          You simply forgot to place a comma after the word things and that changed the meaning of you sentence completely.

          • Q. Shtik June 5, 2023 at 4:48 pm #


          • Night Owl June 5, 2023 at 4:57 pm #

            You make this error in nearly every post, Q-tip.

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 6:44 pm #

            You left a letter off the end of a word. My condition is spreading to you, Q.

          • Anthea June 7, 2023 at 12:35 am #

            @ Q. Shtik:

            There should be a comma between the two independent clauses in, “You simply forgot to place a comma after the word things and that changed the meaning of you sentence completely.”

            It should be, “You simply forgot to place a comma after the word things, and that changed the meaning of you sentence completely.”

  14. BackRowHeckler June 5, 2023 at 11:13 am #

    “So let’s face it: Ukraine flopped.”

    Yes it did, but there’s still plenty more blood to be shed before it’s over. It seems the ‘Spring Counteroffensive’ is still on; I’m no military strategist but you have to think the Russian army has prepared a Defense in Depth, like they did at Kursk in 1943 or similar to the German Imperial Army on the Western Front in 1916. Zelensky has spent the last 6 months hyping his plan to drive the Russians out of Donbas & Crimea, using it to leverage more weapons & cash from NATO, the EU, Washington & whoever else he can hit up. Now he has follow thru with it in order to maintain any credibility at all … any day now we’ll be watching video of hapless & doomed Ukrainian soldiers running into the meat grinder similar to the British at the Somme or the French at Verdun.

    • JohnAZ June 5, 2023 at 11:19 am #

      I read an article yesterday that Russia claims it has thrown back a major offensive from Ukraine.

      Has the vaunted counteroffensive just petered out already?

      • BackRowHeckler June 5, 2023 at 12:03 pm #

        Zelensky/NATO General Order #1. Here’s the plan.

        Assault & hold Moscow (Something the French & Germans could not do)

        Demoralize Russia by flying in pallets of Bud Lite & several of Sec. Austin’s Tranny Battalions in full drag into Moscow, force little Russian kids to attend Tranny Reading Hour and making them drink Bud Lite, giving Russians a full measure of Western moral filth, degeneracy & degradation ~ really rub their noses in their subgegation. Just like in the USA & Europe, bring Russia down by getting at their children, turning them over to molesters, groomers & satanists. And if the parents complain, that’s what the FBI is for.

        • Paula D June 5, 2023 at 12:07 pm #

          They already did that in Ukraine.

        • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 1:30 pm #

          Yeah why not bomb Moscow with tranny fluid – cases of Bud Lite?

          Some say Zelensky is outfitting his tanks and vehicles to use Bud Lite as fuel.


          • BackRowHeckler June 5, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

            What tanks? A few broken down Leopards from Germany easily knocked out by inexpensive Iranian drones

            Suddenly, drones rule the battlefield.

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 2:01 pm #

            Good BRH. You must be high as kite from this war. I bet you are drinking less now that “God has given you blood to drink.”

            the Wizard Mathew Maule to Judge Pyncheon – was find dead within a fortnight, whatever that is.

          • BackRowHeckler June 5, 2023 at 3:51 pm #

            Jared, have you read ‘Lost Victories’, by Field Marshal Eric Von Manstein?

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 6:37 pm #

            No. What’s the premise?

    • Beryl of Oyl June 5, 2023 at 11:20 am #

      That video will be likely to be one of those state of the art green screen productions.

      The entirety of our MSM are sudden’t allergic to the idea of covering a war in person.

      Even that guy they threw in prison for making videos critical of the Ukraine government, I’ve only seen videos from him featuring himself.

      • Islander June 5, 2023 at 3:57 pm #

        Gonzalo Lira.

        There is more to this story than meets the eye.

        • MaryQueen June 5, 2023 at 7:45 pm #

          Well, I don’t get why someone like Gonzalo decided to live in Ukraine, then got arrested, and remained there under “house arrest,” and then kept smack-talking until they arrested him again.

          This makes zero sense to me. Sure he got the inside scoop, but so have many others from safer distances.

          • Islander June 6, 2023 at 6:34 pm #

            The first “arrest” story did not make sense.

            The story is/was that GL has a child with a Ukrainian woman, hence his staying in the Ukraine.

            But why didn’t the two of them leave? Esp since GL doesn’t speak a word of either Russian or Ukrainian. How can you live in a country for 10 years and never learn the lingo?

            Hence, IMO virtually all of his “analyses” were secondhand, delivered as though original with him.

            I hope the guy is OK, but I still think there is more to all this than meets the eye.

          • ThorsHammer June 8, 2023 at 4:16 pm #


            There are more than one smelly dead fish in the Gonzalo barrel.

            Like when he continually had to go out on his porch to feed his cigarette addiction and the sounds of bombing followed shortly thereafter?

            Or when he said early last year that he had sent his wife and son to safety in Europe?

            Or when he let slip that he was in Vienna?

            Or that he could live in the Ukraine for ten years, be married to a Ukrainian and speak neither Russian or the Ukrainian sub dialect.

            Or when he claimed that he had been recovering from a motorcycle accident when pressed to account for his absence from his Round Table for a month.

            Hard to think that either the Russians, Ukos, or the CIA is paying him. My guess is that he is/was just a lonely actor playing in front of a mirror for an audience of one.

    • Blackbird June 5, 2023 at 11:29 am #

      “Now he has follow thru with it in order to maintain any credibility at all …”

      Maybe in a world where credibility mattered…

      Three years from now the talking heads and the brainwashed minions will still be talking about the upcoming Spring/Summer/Fall/Winter Offensive and how mighty Zelenskyyy is about to kick in Russia’s front door and collapse the whole rotting structure.

    • Paula D June 5, 2023 at 12:06 pm #

      Either Ukraine gives up or the US/NATO gets involved.

      I think the US/NATO will use the exercises to go live. Tomorrow is D-Day and you know how our ruling overlords love their numerology and their anniversaries.

      They probably have some crazy plan to attack Russia (including the Donbass part) from Poland or Romania.

      Or, they could try to attack Transistria, more of Belgorod or openly take over Odessa.

      I guess we’ll see.

      • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 1:34 pm #

        Why not attack Siberia from Alaska? You can see it from Palin’s house so they won’t get lost.

        Imagine a bare breasted Palin leading our forces in a triumphant entry into Paris/Moscow?

        • Rowdypiglet June 5, 2023 at 4:21 pm #

          Jarek, I hold you responsible for slipping that image into my helpless, unsuspecting psyche. Have you no pity?

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 6:39 pm #

            Yes, I haven’t released surgical footage I found of tranny surgeries.

  15. badberries June 5, 2023 at 11:22 am #

    A million years ago, there a bumper sticker that was popular “WWJD?” -” What would Jesus do”?

    I submit a replacement: “WWJGD”?
    “What would John Galt do”? (spoiler, He’d get the fuk outta Dodge and so would Jesus).

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    • elysianfield June 5, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

      Get outta Dodge…to where?

      A few more bumper stickers…

      “Ted Kennedy’s car has killed more people than my gun has…”

      “I’ll for give Jane Fonda when the Jews forgive Hitler”

      “Kill a Commie for Christ”

      • badberries June 5, 2023 at 2:07 pm #

        Ely “to where”? The far side of da mooon of course, I hear there’s a brand new noodle parlor just opened. It’s called the Gang of Five Lackey Running Dog Emporium. This weeks special is Unborn Puppy Potpourri, stay for the floorshow; “The Moon Flower Grrrlz channel Dylan M. doing Audrey Hepburn”, it’s a riot!! oops, I mean it’s a lliot! (forgot I was in Qing town)

      • Billy Hill June 5, 2023 at 4:01 pm #

        Speaking of bumper stickers,

        Freud, Marx, and Darwin…
        Two down, one to go.

      • benr June 5, 2023 at 8:38 pm #

        Praise the lord and pass the ammo.

    • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 1:38 pm #

      Jesus went to his slaughter in Jerusalem like a Lamb. He didn’t try to dodge it.

      That was last time. This time He comes as Kalki, a Conquering King.

      We must learn to love both aspects, the suffering servant and the Conquering King. He is both small and great. Loving and stern. Justice comes first, modified by mercy. And in the end, two are revealed as One.

      • badberries June 5, 2023 at 2:12 pm #

        Jarek Ahh we revisit Kalki…

        • Woodchuck June 5, 2023 at 11:22 pm #

          Well shucks. Now I must google “Caulky” oh er “Kalki”. Jarek seems to really like the idea of Jesus returning as an ass kicker instead of a peacemaker. In the Old Testament, Jehovah was known for his fits of anger and foul temper at times. There was a unique period shortly after mankind’s beginnings here when Jehovah said “That’s it – I’m flooding nearly all of you evil bastards outa here!” It was never quite clear just what could trigger Jehovah’s wrath. Once when some children poked fun of prophet Elisha’s bald head God sent some bears to eat ’em up. A bit of an overreaction if you ask me.

          If Jesus does return and set up a monarchy let’s hope he’ll be a lot more fair and easier to understand than his dad used to be.

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 11:46 pm #

            You said he was a tough guy. This time he’s going to act like one. And I’ll be there in my immortal body having been martyred already. You’ll see me coming and run – but you won’t get far.

  16. Beryl of Oyl June 5, 2023 at 11:24 am #

    I don’t know if those vaccine cards were a law or just somebody’s whim.

    I don’t know how you go on trial without having broken a law.

    This is what you get when your elected officials confer special powers on themselves on the flimsiest of excuses.

    This is what Gorsuch was talking about.

    • Paula D June 5, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

      Good point. They make up laws now.

      Same with the Jan. 6th protesters. Since when is walking into a public building ”trespassing”?

      They invent laws for the common people and ignore laws for the wealthy.

      • Beryl of Oyl June 5, 2023 at 4:24 pm #

        Lara Logan has been looking at the January 6 tapes, and she made the point that there are speakers inside and outside the Capitol, and they never told the people who went in that they were trespassing and needed to leave, nor did they tell the people outside.

        It was 6 o’clock before they used the outside loudspeaker system to tell the people they needed to disperse, and the people did disperse.

        • benr June 5, 2023 at 7:20 pm #

          More theater of the absurd.
          The J6 hearings were a joke they ignored some very serious questions so they could use this against TRUMP.
          This is no surprise since the entire panel of buffoons were admitted anti-trumpers.
          In a sane society this would have never been allowed or would have been shouted down for the absurdity it was.

        • MaryQueen June 5, 2023 at 7:49 pm #

          Well I think the police removing the barricades and waving them in pretty much says it all.

          • Paula D June 5, 2023 at 8:21 pm #

            And opening the magnetic doors from the inside.

            And leading them to the Senate chamber.

          • MaryQueen June 5, 2023 at 10:20 pm #


      • Not_GeorgeT June 5, 2023 at 11:56 pm #

        “I don’t know how you go on trial without having broken a law”

        Trials are irrelevant, jail without recourse solves many problems without much fuss involved.

        It’s the evolution of the legal system, very streamlined.

        Habeus Corpus… what a nuisance.

        The Fifth, Sixth, Seventh and Eighth Amendments come to mind… and are quickly brushed aside as relics of the past.

        Such is Modernism in its present form.

  17. JohnAZ June 5, 2023 at 11:33 am #

    The soul of this country is and always has been its conservative side. The Liberal side have always tried to tear down the goodness of America. Their insistence that change is the path to glory has just about done the country in.

    They have succeeded in making the conservative side “hate” the Deep State ie the federal government. The Deep State is the enemy of the ideals of America. If the governmental officers were forced to enforce their oaths, they would have to put themselves to the sword.

    The folks that would die to preserve the liberty of this country are falling out of love with its government. The military is a perfect window of this. The DS tries to fill the military quotas with queers and trans. Next will be illegals promised citizenship for military service.

    The Democratic Party, in its quest for power, is driving away the population sector that believes the most in the soul of the US Constitution.

    The end is near.

    BTW, Fox stated that Manchin may be considering a run at the presidency in a third party, a new one I think. I will watch and see who gravitates toward him.

    • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 1:42 pm #

      Yes, Liberalism is a denial of human nature and/or an attempt to change it.

      Conservatism accepts human nature and works with it, knowing that human will alone cannot change it but only in alliance with Grace. And that means that any changing is done by each individual. Souls are not saved in bundles after all.

      But the individual effort, buttressed by community and church norms, is important. Because from it comes a good society.

      Just being compassionate with people confirms them in their vice and sin. This is the modus operandi of Liberalism – godless feminine foolishness.

      • badberries June 5, 2023 at 2:17 pm #

        Jar Jar Binks, “Grace”?? I had a mother-in-law named Grace, she was a piece of work but I liked her, her daughter?, ..not so much.

        “life’s a bitch and then you marry one”.

        • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 2:44 pm #

          You remind me of John Smallberries in the movie Buckaroo Banzai.

          Be bad if you must but don’t be small. Accept that you’re a demon and live it.

          • badberries June 5, 2023 at 6:47 pm #

            Jarek, thanks for that, I’ve always liked John Lithgow, my brothers nickname was Smallberries ergo, I’m Badberries.

            The Improbability Drive has played an outsized role in my life, one day I’m in Tatarstan eating horse meat and the next in India or Mexico or Belgium. In looking back, all I can say is, “it seemed like a good idea at the time”.
            I have a leather garment bag that gets compliments from other travelers who know what a million miles looks like, it belongs in a museum. When I die I’m taking it with me, who knows I may be eligible for frequent flier miles in the land that shall not be named, ruled by “She who MUST be obeyed”.

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 11:48 pm #

            The evil Red Lectroids were dorks yet still cool. They would look away from a person as they knocked them out with a punch.

    • JackStraw June 5, 2023 at 3:06 pm #

      Well stated. Most conservatives I know are simply beyond horrified at our current state, and no longer support almost any part of our society and government.

      Why would we? As far as I can tell, the government, the media, Hollywood, big business, and the education system all hate me, so why would I support them? I have no patriotism left in me.

      • benr June 5, 2023 at 7:25 pm #

        100% agreed the entire rotten country needs a massive reset.
        The Democrats have cobbled together a party of weirdos, freaks and idiots the lamestream media covers for at every turn.
        I feel like the world decided to turn itself into a Cindy Lauper video.

  18. FGB3 June 5, 2023 at 11:38 am #

    “One thing for sure, as the sweet zephyrs of springtime merge into the punishing infernos of summer, is that the collapse of the USA continues apace. You can debate whether it is a good thing or a bad thing, but above all it is the thing”.

    It would be ‘one thing’ if it were happening to us of our own acts, but it is far, far worse that it is happening as the result of persons in high places of power undermining our country from without! Let’s keep that in mind.

    • Paula D June 5, 2023 at 12:10 pm #

      We was pushed!

    • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 1:43 pm #

      As Biden said, You know, the thing.

  19. Ishabaka June 5, 2023 at 11:40 am #

    Degeneracy is our strength.
    Alphabet (Google) is doing it’s best to promote degeneracy. Over on zerohedge.com you can see a video today of two Black gang members committing murder using Glocks with “switches” and “extendos”. Switches are illegal devices made by China that convert a pistol into an illegal submachine gun. Cost is generally less than $100. Extendos are high capacity magazines that allow a Glock to fire between 30 – 100 rounds. There are plenty of Black switch and extendo videos on Google-owned YouTube. Google could easily ban them they way they’ve banned videos questioning the 2020 election, or the natural origins of Covid-19, but it seems those darn Google folks just enjoy seeing Blacks getting murdered too much.

    • Amman June 5, 2023 at 1:55 pm #

      All while acting like a mighty crusader of their behalf.

  20. FGB3 June 5, 2023 at 11:46 am #

    “Her legal battle against a dishonest and vindictive federal government will require lawyer’s fees that exceed her ability to pay…”.

    Well then, along with us poor folks, why doesn’t her lawyers waive their fees? They’re LAWYERS for God’s sake! They got more money than we do.

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    • Heartlander June 5, 2023 at 2:57 pm #


      Yes, that is exactly what they did in Ukraine. Indeed, after the CIA overthrew Ukraine’s government in 2014, one of the first things they did was to start carpeting Ukraine with “Pride” filth. They EXULTED in how they were making Ukraine over into an “enlightened,” “free” LGBTQ paradise.

      But the pedo thing started much earlier. While all the former Soviet countries suffered after the breakup of the USSR, some of them suffered more than others. Ukraine, with all its fertile land and abundant resources, COULD have been a great, prosperous country. Instead, horrific corruption turned it into a hellhole. It became a top exporter of women and children into international human trafficking, and a top importer of toxic waste. It also became the #2 global destination for child-sex tourism (Thailand is #1.)

      Russia in the ’90s was headed the same direction, with rates of rape, murder, organized crime, alcoholism, poverty, and suicide reaching horrific levels. But unlike Ukraine, Russia got… a savior. After ten years of national nightmare, Putin became president, and thanks to him, every one of those statistics has turned around. I can’t even bear to think what Russia would look like today if Vladimir Putin had not come along. God bless that man! (Wish we had someone even half as intelligent, articulate and truly patriotic.)

      • Islander June 5, 2023 at 4:07 pm #

        Also, the CIA got its claws into the Ukraine immed. after WW2, using it for various purposes that did not further the fortunes of that area.

        The population began to fall dramatically after 1991, owing to emigration, falling birth rate, and increasing death rate.

        See this:
        httpX://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Ukraine#/media/File:Population_of_Ukraine_from_1950_(untitled).svg .

        The Soviet Union was actually very good to the Ukraine.

  21. elysianfield June 5, 2023 at 12:01 pm #

    ” So, what’s our Plan B for defending Taiwan? (Hint: there is none.)”

    Mr. Kunstler,
    There is a plan, and it is viable, doable, relatively cheap and entirely effective.

    Give Japan, and Taiwan a half dozen or so Intermediate Range Ballistic Missiles, nuclear tipped, with a small cadre of techs to maintain the missiles and warheads…and then slowly back away from the area.

    Call it “The North Korean Gambit”. Or the “Israeli paradigm”. Or the “India/Pakistan fandango”. Proven to be effective.

    • Paula D June 5, 2023 at 12:13 pm #

      Yeah, the plan is the same in the Pacific, “Let’s you and him fight”.

      The “you” is Taiwan, South Korea, Australia and Japan. Those countries seem onboard.

      The Philippines, Vietnam, Cambodia….not so much.

      It’s pretty ballsy if you think about it. The US has killed millions of people in those three countries, (even if the Philippines was a century ago), and now they are seriously trying to get them onboard to be proxies for the US against China.


    • Blackbird June 5, 2023 at 12:25 pm #

      China is not going to invade Taiwan.

      The US runs around claiming that our chosen enemy of the moment will act exactly like the US. And Americans believe the propaganda, because we believe everyone thinks and acts like Americans.

      The US is at war with the world, not China, not Russia. And that war is not aimed at conquering the world, but simply destroying it, while transferring more wealth and power to the plutocrats. The same plutocrats who have already sold hegemony to China.

      • Paula D June 5, 2023 at 1:34 pm #

        You nailed it, Blackbird.

      • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 1:48 pm #

        Probably. If you can’t beat them, join them. And it’s too late to beat them if you’ve made a fortune building them up into a super power.

        We’ve tolerated Capitalist Traitors in our midst for far too long. Capitalism is antithetical to the good of the nation, or even its very existence.

        • benr June 5, 2023 at 7:28 pm #

          Except the only thing worse than Capitalism is Marxism, Socialism Fascism, Anarchism, and Communism.

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 11:50 pm #

            Exactly. National Socialism is the higher third or true Hegelian resolution. Marxism is an integration downwards; not resolution but dissolution.

    • Amman June 5, 2023 at 1:41 pm #

      Well, it’s OK to fantasize.

    • badberries June 5, 2023 at 2:19 pm #

      Make sure the manuals are written in that funny English like the manuals they send here.

    • JackStraw June 5, 2023 at 2:56 pm #

      Taiwan would never agree to that. I think they would accept being part of China before committing nuclear suicide.

      I’d like to see what the Taiwanese people think about the whole issue. It may not be anything like what we’ve been spoon fed.

      • Paula D June 5, 2023 at 5:00 pm #

        The elections are next January. It looks like the Taiwanese are going to vote against being the next Ukraine. They ain’t stupid.

        So the US has to get the war started before January.

      • elysianfield June 5, 2023 at 6:05 pm #

        What do the Taiwanese think? The Powers that be give no more of a shit than they do of what an American thinks.

        • benr June 5, 2023 at 7:30 pm #

          I asked a former co-worker whose parents are Taiwanese.
          He said his parents are anti-China and fled as a result of worry over China taking over.
          It would appear many people are not very keen on China taking over.

        • Blackbird June 7, 2023 at 12:02 pm #

          My understanding is that the Kuomintang party, one of the 2 major parties in Taiwan, is in favor of reunification with China. Ironic considering that the Kuomintang was the sole political party in pre-communist China, and fled to Taiwan to set up a rump Republic of China.

          The above being the case, I suspect that about half the Chinese people are in favor of reunification. I also suspect that almost none – maybe 8 or 10 – are in favor of fighting to the death to preserve Taiwan from the fate of Hong Kong.

          China is Taiwan’s largest trading partner, and I only see that trend continuing as the US continues to strangle itself through autoerotic asphyxiation – despite the recent trade deal.

          If anyone on Taiwan is frightened my the thought of reunification, they should just flee to the US. We will undoubtedly pay their airfare, find them a place to live, provide medical care, and give them a job (if they really want one) that used to be held by one or two Americans. ‘Cause that’s the kinda country we are, a country that loves everyone – except white people, especially the ones that already live here.

          • Paula D June 7, 2023 at 1:43 pm #

            When I was a kid my mother said something nasty about Cubans, and like a good liberal child, I called her a racist.

            She told me that she was referring to the anit-Castro Cubans who had come here after they lost their wealth and servants, and were given a high-paying job in the company she worked for, although they didn’t speak English and did no actual work. They were being rewarded solely for the propaganda value. (I’m sure their grandchildren are still telling credulous Americans today about the horrible oppression their grandparents suffered.)

            That was the first time I was schooled on knee-jerk liberalism.

  22. Roundball Shaman June 5, 2023 at 12:12 pm #

    “… the collapse of the USA continues apace.”

    It’s not every day that one gets to witness the remains of a once-great Nation flicking out from the once Bright Beams of Hope and Dreams to the current Dark Screams of Broke, Wokeness &Schemes.

    “…. dreamland where it’s always 1964 and you’re tooling among the saguaros in your beloved Corvette, getting your kicks on Route 66.”

    Gazing upon the classic re-runs of the Route 66 TV Show is look back in time at a Nation that had not yet lost its collective mind and soul. Cities still had prosperous town squares and factories on the outskirts where Todd and Buz could always find work anytime they needed it. Teachers still taught real subjects and not how children should accept BECOMING subjects of the Dark State. Corporations tried to make money instead of leading the charge for destructive social engineering. Boys liked being boys and girls liked being girls and nobody dared question the kind of plumbing that God gave them. A look back at a saner and more civilized and purposeful world than the cesspool of today’s Dark Screams of Broke, Wokeness &Schemes.

    “… Kathie Breault was indicted in the Eastern States District Federal Court for ‘Conspiracy to Defraud the United States’ for giving vaccination cards to people who did not receive Covid-19 vaccinations.”

    ‘We the People’ are ‘The United States’! Do you as an American feel ‘defrauded’ because of what Ms. Breault did? Does anyone other than a bunch of bureaucrats with delusions of godhood?

    Of course there is a much larger game afoot with the matter of the persecution of Ms. Breault.

    Dark State Empire is sending the strong-armed message that no one should ever dare (or even THINK to dare) the dark dictates of Dark State Empire when They order We the People to systematically (and robotically) Off ourselves in a ritual blood sacrifice to the False gods of the Dark State Empire.

    Broke, Wokeness &Schemes is not just some law firm in DC. It’s a whole lot bigger game than that.

    • Woodchuck June 5, 2023 at 12:56 pm #

      I remember the Route 66 show and liked it. An interesting show from the 50’s is “Highway Patrol”. The shows are all on you tube. You’ll see what Simi Valley and San Fernado Valley looked like long ago. You’ll see working train stations still hauling passengers. You’ll see lots of video of dusty dirt and gravel backroads, small canyons, and mom and pop motels and diners. People everywhere out and about or even driving around are well dressed. Even the bad guys and gals are well dressed and polite as they go about their day. This show didn’t have a big budget so it was all filmed not far from the studios in LA. It’s an interesting image of the USA as it once was in Ca.

      • tom clark June 5, 2023 at 1:22 pm #

        Re: Highway Patrol…Broderick Crawford was a drunk.

        • Woodchuck June 5, 2023 at 1:35 pm #

          okaaaaaaaaaaaay! Lots of great actors as well as minor ones had drinking problems. I’m unsure as to how Crawford’s personal problems relate to the general aspects of the show I’m discussing. If one of the stars of the Route 66 show had a drinking problem what significance would it have. Why would that be important?

          • badberries June 5, 2023 at 2:43 pm #

            most of the guys from that time bore witness to the most violent era in human history,.. yeah, they drank.. probably wondering why their friends got whacked and they didn’t.

          • BackRowHeckler June 5, 2023 at 3:42 pm #

            Actually Crawford’s drinking is one of the reasons the show ended; apparently he was hung over a lot and would come in not prepared to work. Ironically, Crawford got a few DUIs and lost his drivers license, which also interfered with the production schedule.

            I love the look of Highway Patrol, filmed in black & white and as you say the picture of 50s California before the interstate highways and the onset of Diversity. 65 years later it’s still entertaining, just like Jack Benny & Phil Silvers from the same era are still funny.

        • Islander June 5, 2023 at 4:12 pm #

          Broderick Crawford was great in Highway Patrol

          So what if he was a drunk.

          Lots of people are. And they can’t play the chief in Highway Patrol.

          Actually, it was a brilliant idea for a series, because the Highway is where America’s heart and essence is to be found.
          On the road.
          On the move.
          Heading on out.

          • BackRowHeckler June 5, 2023 at 7:20 pm #

            Crawford was a good actor, no doubt about it. I believe he came from a showbiz family out of Philadelphia (like WC Fields) I think he even got an academy award nomination for his work in ‘All the King’s Men’. But like Errol Flynn & Alan Ladd, and dozens of other actors, drink did get the best of him.

          • SpeedyBB June 6, 2023 at 8:51 am #

            Errol Flynn, nearly broke, came to Vancouver to sell his yacht. He has a prospective buyer in Dr. Grant Gould (uncle of pianist Glenn Gould), and visited him in his West End condo, to talk business.

            After a short spell, Errol said he would like to lay down, as he did not feel well. Later, 21-year-old Beverley Aadland, who had accompanied him to Canada, went to look in on him, then rushed back to announce “Errol’s turning blue.”

            The coroner was quoted as stating “He had the body of a man of seventy.” He was barely fifty.

            You can meet 95-year-old smokers, even heavy ones, but you won’t meet any serious drinkers that old.

          • farmgal June 6, 2023 at 9:14 am #

            @islander – On the road. On the move. Heading on out.

            That sounds like the beginnings of a great song. I will never understand the reluctance of millennials to get a drivers license.
            Driving is freedom,

            See the USA in a Chevrolet!

      • BackRowHeckler June 5, 2023 at 1:35 pm #

        10-4 on that post, Woody.

        • tom clark June 5, 2023 at 2:30 pm #

          That’s a big 10-4 on that post, Woody, and you too, BRH. And while we’re at it, let’s legalize Mary Jane for some Xtra kix on Route 66. Are we having fun yet, guys? All those Gen X and younger out there raise your hands…ahhh, as I thought.

          • benr June 5, 2023 at 7:36 pm #

            Just what we need more crazy people.

            Marijuana use has also been linked to depression; social anxiety; and thoughts of suicide, suicide attempts, and suicide. National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine.

            The relationship between cannabis (marijuana) use and psychiatric disorders is complex, and more research is needed to better understand the short- and long-term impacts of cannabis use on mental health. Considerable—though not all—evidence has linked cannabis use to earlier onset of psychosis in people with genetic risk factors for psychotic disorders, including schizophrenia, as well as worse symptoms in people who already have these conditions. Although less consistent, there is also evidence linking cannabis use to other mental illnesses and self-harm, including suicidal thoughts and behaviors.

            Hey dUUUUuuuuuoooood it’s leeeeeguuuulll.
            Says every retard smoking it in public when you tell them NO smoking here per the sign.
            Then they say it’s not tobacco!

            To which I say no its worse and smells worse.
            They then jump in their car and speed off.

      • Roundball Shaman June 5, 2023 at 2:13 pm #

        Many shows from the ‘50s and ‘60s are still run on heavy rotation on the over-the-air TV sub-channels. They are a welcome breathe of fresh air in the midst of the heavy stink and stench of today’s empty and damaging and soul-crushing mind-eff programs.

        Everyone involved in making those shows 60 years ago had no idea how important what they were producing was going to turn out to be. Life-preservers amidst today’s drowning waters of serial rampant empty-headed Wokeism polluting the public airwaves.

        Will any of today’s bathroom bowl swill be shown 60 years from now? Hardly. We ourselves as a species may not be around anymore if the Dark State gets its filthy way.

        Todd Styles and Buz Murdoch were free to tour the land in search of place that they ‘belonged’.

        And here we are 60 years later… still on that very same search for belonging somewhere untouched by the stench. And trying like holy hell to stay free.

        And Those Who Serve the Darkness working to ban our Corvettes from the highway and shut down all the gas stations.

        • tom clark June 5, 2023 at 2:36 pm #

          Roundball…Corvettes will never be banned from the highways as long as Mr. Biden owns one…gas stations? Now that’s another matter…

        • Soul Forensics June 5, 2023 at 3:34 pm #

          “Everyone involved in making those shows 60 years ago had no idea how important what they were producing was going to turn out to be.” — RS

          Yes. And the opposite will be true in another 60 years. If TVs are still a thing then, people will be completely befuddled by the dialogue in “Friends”, i.e.

          Snark had a short run, but it’s already almost dead. The only people who still use it as part of their addled philosophy are impressionable students in their early 20s, but reality will kick them in the nuts soon enough.

      • Q. Shtik June 5, 2023 at 4:23 pm #

        It’s Fernando not Fernado.

        But we knew what you meant.

        As long as the reader knew what you meant there is no need for correct spelling. That’s what my grade school teachers always told us. NOT!

        • Night Owl June 5, 2023 at 4:56 pm #

          We know what you meant when your corrections fail, too.

          You fucking clown.

        • Islander June 5, 2023 at 6:44 pm #

          Where is the comma after “Fernando?”

          Just give it up, Q.

        • badberries June 5, 2023 at 6:50 pm #

          Hmmmm, sounds like a good name for an ABBA song.

      • Beryl of Oyl June 5, 2023 at 4:29 pm #

        Try The Naked City if you want to see NYC in its full glory.

        It can make you cry.

        • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 6:41 pm #

          Nice day for a White Wedding.

          • benr June 5, 2023 at 7:12 pm #

            Save the daytime drama I would rather be dancing with myself.

  23. tom75 June 5, 2023 at 12:56 pm #

    Ukraine might have lost, but Blackrock most certainly won. They own the country, it’s resources and it’s food production. Go check out those Deagel numbers from 2017, their 2025 population predictions depict that region doesn’t have the population drop offs like many other countries. There is one exception. Ukraine shows a population drop of 13 million. It’s almost as if they engineered this entire charade and knew it’s outcome many years ago…just sayin’.

  24. snagglepuss June 5, 2023 at 1:30 pm #

    If the source is from Ukraine maybe it’s Ruslan Ryaboshapka the prosecutor or even Mykola Zlochevsky owner of Burisma the energy company. Could be any other backstabbing Ukrainian of course, given the level of corruption in that country. Whatever happened to the good old days when this stuff was front page news and broadcast on televsion 24/7. Bring back the scrutiny of the McCarthy Era for chrissakes…. Wake up America, your house is on fire.

    • Yirgach June 5, 2023 at 1:59 pm #

      Better call the Uh-Oh Squad!

  25. JackStraw June 5, 2023 at 2:54 pm #

    “all bad deeds go unpunished in the degenerate era that precedes collapse.”

    We’ve been in collapse for some time now, because I can’t even remember the last time a person in government paid for a crime. The government is simply above the law.

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    • mitchellc June 5, 2023 at 3:16 pm #

      Which is why the proper analysis is to invert these kinds of observations.

      That is, instead of complaining about changes, one simply can note these traits are markers for failed societies.

      Ergo, the USA is a failed state; it’s not an issue up for debate, just a cut and dry statement of fact.

      Therefore, the true variable is what happens next, which is anyone’s guess, and why we sit here speculating.

      • Q. Shtik June 5, 2023 at 4:33 pm #

        just a cut and dry statement of fact. – mitch



        • Night Owl June 5, 2023 at 4:55 pm #

          “Cut-and-dried,” you failure.

  26. Vegan Shark June 5, 2023 at 3:27 pm #

    So, what’s our Plan B for defending Taiwan? (Hint: there is none.)

    Oh, our mighty trans-military doesn’t defend anymore (see: borders). Where’s the glory in that? Offense is our best — our only, actually — defense. It’s the little people in little countries who think of defense. Toujours de l’audace!

    China’s threatening to rain on the Great American Empire’s parade? We’ll show them what for. We’ll call out Xi Jinping, slap his cheek with a white glove. Nukes at dawn!

    Watching our monster aircraft carriers dissolve after being pronged in the sea off Taiwan will be quite the show. Then the real fun begins.

  27. Jo-G June 5, 2023 at 4:30 pm #

    “The crowning act of boobery was our demolition of the Nord Stream natgas pipelines, which had the predictable effect of putting our NATO allies out-of-business, while Russia turned around and found other customers for its gas. ”

    I read in the news that Russia bombed the pipeline. It got them an excuse to get out of their contracts thinking it would hurt Germany and the U.S. Instead it backfired on the Russians and enriched U.S. energy companies. It forced Germany to reduce its reliance on Russian energy. The war in the Ukraine is not just monetarily profitable for us. We are not only replacing our old weapons but learning how to effectively use the new robotic and AI powered weapons. We are doing this without risking many American lives. We are getting to know our enemies and also honing our skills at manipulating our own population into supporting our foreign policy without having to explain the policy. When I visited the US I saw more Ukrainian flags flying in front of homes than American flags. The previous time I was in that town we had troops dying in Afghanistan fighting the Taliban yet no one flew Afghanistani flags, and no strangers screamed about Taliban atrocities like they did about Russians gang raping 90 year old women and slaughtering kindergarten students. Its a very noticeable improvement in the government’s ability to get people emotionally stimulated to support our policies. We’ve also done a pretty good job with the Grain deal where somehow we got it so the Ukrainians ( and American agribusines) can export their grain to Europe at a huge profit while we’re still blocking the Russians from using the black sea to export their grain and fertilizers to Africa.

    • Q. Shtik June 5, 2023 at 4:42 pm #

      Russians gang raping 90 year old women – Jo-G


      Who in God’s name would want to have sex with a 90 year old woman. You couldn’t pay me!

      • Soul Forensics June 5, 2023 at 4:59 pm #

        C’mon, Shtik. I think you protest too much. Just get on that dating app and swipe right on those hopeful nonagenarians!

      • benr June 5, 2023 at 7:08 pm #

        I lived at one time on orange grove avenue right next to the house part of the horror movie Halloween was filmed at.
        At the time the street was populated with lots of elderly people and most of them tended to be women.
        The house directly across the street had a sweet at least 90-year-old woman who was brutally attacked and raped by a troubled youf.
        He kicked in her door as she was opening it so hard it burst the veins in her leg and as she was bleeding to death this animal had his way with her.
        My then almost 90 year old Aunt Hellen was terrified for months.

        • elysianfield June 6, 2023 at 11:27 am #

          …It’s GOOD to be da cops….

    • Night Owl June 5, 2023 at 4:55 pm #

      Are you vaccine injured, Jo?

      You sound vaccine injured, bro.

    • Paula D June 5, 2023 at 5:08 pm #

      ”When I visited the US ”

      ”the government’s ability to get people emotionally stimulated to support our policies”

      Not an American?
      An American who lives abroad?
      A troll who has trouble keeping his role straight?

      Or just a complete idiot on the internet?

      Anyone who thinks that Russia bombed their own pipelines, thinking it would hurt the US, IS a complete idiot, so I’m guessing that one.

    • Islander June 5, 2023 at 6:47 pm #

      “I read in the news that Russia bombed the pipeline. ”

      Well, I guess that indicates that at least you know how to read . . . but not that you know how to think.

    • Heartlander June 5, 2023 at 9:06 pm #

      You read it in the news!
      It must be true!!

    • MaryQueen June 5, 2023 at 10:12 pm #


    • FGB3 June 6, 2023 at 1:41 am #

      Oh you read that “in the news” and then proceeded from there as if it were true. Then one thing led to another and many words later we arrive at fertilizers and grain exports.

  28. Soul Forensics June 5, 2023 at 5:30 pm #

    Speaking of 90 year-olds and sex: good for our elders who have the energy and interest in maintaining a sex life. And good for 30 year-olds who have that rare movement towards spiritual realization who then transcend sexual activity.

    For centuries, purported celibates (Catholic priests) or Protestants (dour women-hating ministers) shamed their respective flocks into believing that sex was evil — even in marriage, it was a necessary evil. Now that that nonsense has been overturned, people go to the other extreme: anything goes.

    The result? Gay empowerment, and now gender confusion and the trans agenda, all founded on the elevation of the feelings, psychology, and laws of feminism.

    The problem is that most people are cowards, conformists to whoever holds social sway. If so many of my co-workers and acquaintances believe it, it must be true!

    All necessary change, revolutionary or not, starts with a reclaimed conservativism. It’ll happen again, fortunately, even if we’re not forced there by economic collapse.

    • Islander June 5, 2023 at 6:49 pm #

      So all the trannies are following the “laws of feminism”?

      Finally, someone who really understands trans-women and can answer the age-old question, What does a trans-woman want?

      • Paula D June 5, 2023 at 7:36 pm #

        Ha, ha, good one.

      • Soul Forensics June 5, 2023 at 8:40 pm #

        Feminism, in general, backs trannies since they should be allowed to transition because of “feelingz!”.

        The progression doesn’t follow obvious paint-by-numbers rules, but then, being a woman, you’re unable to to think about outcomes that are in any way complex.

        • MaryQueen June 6, 2023 at 9:27 am #

          Actually, no… you’re plenty ignorant on this, but still feel bold enough to proclaim you get it.

          Why are women’s groups across the country protesting the trans and their attacks on children? Both on the left and conservative women?

          I have listed the groups here many times. Yet people still believe feminists are on the trannies’ side. Not all women and not all feminists. You are referring to wokies, and their religion is the same for men and women.

        • Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 5:24 pm #

          Soul, you are too schlau to do the a/b binary stuff.

          Come on now.

        • Islander June 6, 2023 at 6:40 pm #

          SF: Greetings, fellow (/sn) knower of the female mind and soul . . .

    • benr June 5, 2023 at 6:53 pm #

      The pendulum always swings back and forth from one extreme to the other but always used to hit for lack of a better word center for a bit.
      The very sad reality is that center has swung hard to the left side more into insanity year by year and never seems to be swinging very long to the center and right.
      America is awash in some pretty crazy propaganda that the lemmings just never seem to catch on to.
      If and when it does finally swing back to the right I suspect it is going to be very explosive and violent for a bit.
      The rope makers and lamp post repair guys might be very busy in the next decade.
      Unless the next strain of h5n1 being produced in Ukraine does not take out 40% of the population.

    • badberries June 5, 2023 at 6:54 pm #

      soul, The Mormons have some interesting requirements for “coupling” and they wear “Angel Skins”….wtf?

      • benr June 5, 2023 at 7:37 pm #

        Magic undies!

        • Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 5:23 pm #


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    • MaryQueen June 5, 2023 at 10:12 pm #

      Actually, it was speaking of 90 year old women who got raped.

      Some of you do seem to think regular sex and rape are interchangeable.

      • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 11:53 pm #

        Some Rad Fems have said that all intercourse is rape under Patriarchy.

        Only when women rule will be it kind of ok under some circumstances, perhaps.

        • MaryQueen June 6, 2023 at 9:29 am #

          I’d love a link to that, Jar. But I’m guessing you’re probably referring to something out there, like the SCUM manifesto.


        • MaryQueen June 6, 2023 at 9:29 am #

          Not a good deflection from the point, either, Jar. You do your pal no favors.

        • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 12:00 pm #

          You love the SCUM manifesto, eh meine Frau?

          • MaryQueen June 7, 2023 at 7:51 pm #

            I find it hilarious.

          • Jarek June 7, 2023 at 10:32 pm #

            That means you love it. You should be horrorified.

  29. Pucker June 5, 2023 at 7:08 pm #

    The AI guru’s like Max Tegmark view us “Clumps of Matter” who live “Pointless” lives.

    I was reading a book on “Retirement” yesterday. Max Tegmark may be right….

    At least, most people seem to be playing the part that the Elites have seemingly made for them.

    This can’t be an accident.

    Matthias Desmet says that the precondition for the formation of a Mass Psychosis is ubiquitous Loneliness and Anomie and concomitant Anxiety in Society.

    It’s part of the new Governance system?

    In the dystopia, people won’t have any Friends. Everyone will be estranged and alienated from even their family members. Your only “Friends” will be AI bots online who you communicate with. You’ll be programmed to “Ghost” real people who are not as emotionally satisfying to deal with as the AI bots.

  30. tucsonspur June 5, 2023 at 7:08 pm #

    Oops! Mistake in what I thought would be an unlive link. I must learn how to do this.

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  31. tucsonspur June 5, 2023 at 7:42 pm #

    What does a brawny, ass kicking, take no shit, totally masculine stud of a guy want?

    Easy one, isn’t it?

    • MaryQueen June 5, 2023 at 10:13 pm #

      Well, we are aware you wouldn’t know.

    • Woodchuck June 5, 2023 at 11:35 pm #

      Yes it’s almost too easy. He’d want a new Harley Davidson motorcycle and all the leather custom accessories to go with it.

      • Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 3:44 am #

        TS already has a Harley and a few pairs of assless chaps.

        Surely there is something else?

        • elysianfield June 6, 2023 at 11:25 am #

          Yesterday…just yesterday bought an old R60/6 BMW for a project this summer. Assless chaps rarely seen on good German Iron….

          • Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 5:22 pm #

            Nice. My B58 says Hallo!.

    • badberries June 6, 2023 at 9:17 am #

      A big platter of steaming hot quiche and his husband to share?

  32. Pucker June 5, 2023 at 8:24 pm #

    “What’s Next?”

    JHK’s interpretation of History is: “People tend to do things because they seemed like a good idea at the time.”

    During the Tang Dynasty, Emperor Tang Xuanzong issued some big edict mandating that all boys 15 years of age and all girls 13 years of age must get married. Apparently, it was a big Tax Grab because the tax system at the time was according to households, and I guess the Emperor figured that his decree would increase the number of households, and, thereby, increase tax revenue?

    Does this make sense?

    What’s the point of having kids for their labor and to kiss your butt when you have to marry them off so quickly? Fortunately, you can sell the girls for “Top Dollar” to the rich Persian merchants working the Silk Road….

    And, doesn’t 13 years old seem awfully young?

    When I was a kid, the other kids at school used to tell the racist joke: “Have you read the book “Over Population in China” by the author, “We Fuck ‘Em Young”?

    At the time, the primary impression that Americans had about China is that it is a place where “There are just too many damn, Fuck’n people.”

    The Chinese find it very frustrating dealing with Americans because the Americans are usually very ignorant about China.

    But, what can you do? There’s no money in it….

    I like the photograph of Henry Kissinger in China with Zhou Enlai teaching “The Kiss Man” how to use chopsticks.

    The Harvard Professor Kissinger thought that he’d get the better of the uneducated, backward Chinese, and the Chinese ended up taking the Americans to the cleaners.

    But, what can you do?

    • Pucker June 5, 2023 at 8:37 pm #

      “It seemed like a good idea at the time….”

      Apparently, the Americans can’t develop hypersonic missile technology because some big, powerful military corporate contractor that bribes all of the Congressmen owns the patent on some preferred ram jet technology that it insists must be the basis for all future American hypersonic missiles. The problem is that the technology doesn’t work….

      “It seemed like a good idea at the time.”

      • Heartlander June 5, 2023 at 9:12 pm #

        In Russia, weapons manufacturers do as the government asks, for the benefit of the country’s people.

        In the U.S., the government does as the weapons manufacturers ask, for the benefit of the weapons manufacturers. As for the country’s people, they’re not in the equation, except to be milked for tax revenue to pay for it all.

        • Pucker June 5, 2023 at 9:34 pm #

          Do you remember the book “Bad Blood” about the Theranos fraud?

          The white female CEO of Theranos kept badgering the Chinese IT engineers to develop a new ingenious shoulder patch blood monitoring device, and the frustrated Chinese engineers kept replying that the crap technology wouldn’t work, and they couldn’t get it to work.

          The CEO would retort: “You’ve got to get it to work! I’ve already advertised and sold the finished product!”

          Henry Kissinger and some big US Army General and a Senator were on the board of directors of Theranos….

          • Pucker June 5, 2023 at 9:45 pm #

            According to the book, the retired US General on the Board of Directors of Theranos had already procured a big lucrative contract to use the snazzy Theranos shoulder patch blood monitors on US troops when the technology didn’t even exist.

          • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 11:56 pm #

            Did she marry and become a mother to get out of going to prison?

            Thank God it didn’t work. So many evil women need to go to prison! She went in last week I believe.

        • Islander June 5, 2023 at 11:12 pm #

          That’s why the enormous gap between the US and Russian “defense” budgets.

          Russians sure get more bang for the citizens’ buck!

        • Blackbird June 7, 2023 at 12:23 pm #

          Thanks for pointing out the difference between fascism (Russia) and plutocracy (the US). They often look the same to those of us at the bottom of the ladder, but they are mirror opposites, stereoisomers.

    • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 12:02 am #

      I met a Chinese tranny once named Sum Yung Ho.

      • badberries June 6, 2023 at 9:21 am #

        Was his favorite meal Kreem of Sum Yung Gai?

  33. Rulo Deschamps June 5, 2023 at 9:21 pm #

    Not “next,” but a few moves ahead on the chessboard: massive paradigm shift, the birth of a new religion, if major regime propaganda outlets’ increasing buzz over the last year or so is something more than noise.

    Today’s piece on thedebrief dot org (“Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin”) increases the intensity of the buzz to what a beekeeper experiences as he works on multiple hives on a hot summer day, with an electric storm getting closer.

    Incidentally, an insect buzz or hum was for millennia the sign of a portal into another reality or state of consciousness.

    Read the piece and arrive to your own conclusions, but keep in mind, here as in previous pieces by behemoths like BBC and WSJ, the heroes bringing truth to the masses are invariably “whistleblower” or “renegade” intelligence operatives, many of them of a very high rank and clearance level.

    “In filing his complaint, Grusch is represented by a lawyer who served as the original Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG). ‘We are not talking about prosaic origins or identities,’ Grusch said, referencing information he provided Congress and the current ICIG. ‘The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles.’In accordance with protocols, Grusch provided the Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review at the Department of Defense with the information he intended to disclose to us. His on-the-record statements were all “cleared for open publication” on April 4 and 6, 2023, in documents provided to us.”

    Hm. Alpha gorillas in the intelligence community turning around, exposing secrets that compromise “national security” and not just avoiding an untimely death but being celebrated for their “integrity.” Sure… “our democracy” truly is a beacon of freedom in a dark world.

    This is coming from leftfield somewhere, from some dark corner, and will be the new 9/11, only on a global scale this time, a true global unifier:

    “Jonathan Grey says secrets have been necessary. “Though a tough nut to crack, potential technological advancements may be gleaned from non-human intelligence/UAP retrievals by any sufficiently advanced nation and then used to wage asymmetrical warfare, so, therefore, some secrecy must remain,” he says. “However, it is no longer necessary to continue to deny that these advanced technologies derived from non-human intelligence exist at all or to deny that these technologies have landed, crashed, or fallen into the hands of human beings.”

    Grey noted that the hypothesis that the United States alone has bullied the other nations into maintaining this secrecy for nearly a century continues to prevail as the primary consensus amongst the public at large. “My hope is to dissuade the global populace from this archaic and preposterous notion, and to potentially pave the way for a much broader discussion,” he said.

    Grusch said it was dangerous for this “eighty-year arms race” to continue in secrecy because it “further inhibits the world populace to be prepared for an unexpected, non-human intelligence contact scenario.”

    “I hope this revelation serves as an ontological shock sociologically and provides a generally uniting issue for nations of the world to re-assess their priorities,” Grusch said.”

    The woke religion is about to enter turbo mode, folks. High Weirdness that has made many of the non-religious amongst us come to the conclusion that something Luciferian is indeed afoot could be revealed to the masses. Many strands converge onto this “point of light” – DNA manipulation, New Age occultism, transhumanism, neofeudalism, AI and deep fakes, kompromat, all-out war on biology, family, language, spirituality, ritual abuse, many black holes are converging into one. And no, it’s not “ET phone home.”

    • Soul Forensics June 5, 2023 at 9:49 pm #

      Great. Just when I’m bulking up to fend off the local trannies-on-roids gang, now I have to deal with 5-foot laser beam green gila monsters.

      • Rulo Deschamps June 6, 2023 at 6:40 am #

        Can you deal with the anal probing?

        • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 8:38 am #

          Colorectal cancer screening?

        • Paula D June 6, 2023 at 11:19 am #

          TS will be all about that!

          • MaryQueen June 6, 2023 at 11:09 pm #


    • MaryQueen June 5, 2023 at 10:18 pm #

      Well, I, for one, welcome our new alien overlords.

    • Jarek June 5, 2023 at 11:58 pm #

      Some say nano-technology is of non-human origin.

    • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 12:00 am #

      The Nazis were the first to fight the Trannies and their enablers.

      A fact you can’t deal with, right? Poor you! Every time you lie you are worshiping Satan.

      • Rulo Deschamps June 6, 2023 at 6:43 am #

        The nazis did away with a lot of art calling it degenerate, but some of it was rather good: Egon Schiele, Alban Berg…

        Funny a nazi would accuse others of satan cult, when the whole rotten thing was a black mass…

        • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 12:03 pm #

          Christ talked of the Synagogue of Satan…..

          Yes, the art thing is debatable. I like Klimt, they didn’t. But of course look what we have now for “art”. They knew it was going bad even if they got some of the details wrong.

        • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 12:04 pm #

          But I assume you admit they crushed the nascent tranny movement – since you changed the subject, right?

        • Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 5:21 pm #

          Interestingly enough despite their disagreements on Nazism, both Rulo and Jarek are depopulationists.

          Kill ’em all, right kids?

          • Jarek June 7, 2023 at 12:30 pm #

            You can pop a balloon with a pin and face the wrath of the mothers at the party. Or you can keep blowing it up until it’s too full and it pops. Oops!

            You evil (or just ignorant?) bastard.

            Or you can put the proper amount of air in it and then TIE IT OFF. Get it, dummy? The balloon has a certain capacity…..

          • Night Owl June 7, 2023 at 6:06 pm #

            But you don’t know the capacity, Jarek. And you act as though you do.

            Furthermore, many populations have been on the decline for many years.

            You are one step removed from Greta T.

          • Jarek June 7, 2023 at 10:35 pm #

            So you admit that there is a limit or carrying capacity then?

            You’ve admitted as much before and then denounced me for pointing it out.

    • SpeedyBB June 6, 2023 at 9:15 am #

      Carol Rosin was an intimate of Werhner von Braun as he was dying of cancer. He was reportedly very concerned about “space-based weapons” and Deep State manipulations to drive war in space.


    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder June 7, 2023 at 10:32 am #

      Love that the spokesman’s name is Grey.

      I’m sure that’s not a coincidence. They’re having fun here…

    • Blackbird June 7, 2023 at 12:44 pm #

      “Incidentally, an insect buzz or hum was for millennia the sign of a portal into another reality or state of consciousness.”

      In my experience exploring the hypnogogic frontier, that insect buzz, increasing in volume like a radar-guided missile coming over the horizon, was a sure sign of an immanent attack of sleep paralysis.

      The physical world encapsulating my consciousness would disintegrate to the sound of wind chimes jingling as I descended – ascended? transcended? – into the “other” world.

  34. The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 2:08 am #

    “What’s Next” ~ JHK

    Some off-the-cuff thoughts…

    • Is AI being inversely hyped (If so, why? WEF purposes? To make people dependent on technology, rather than bail from it and start living more in the real and local, thus essentially eliminating any or most kinds of globalists’ agendas?)
    • Deep fake stuff along with AI-driven internet content may make people bail from the internet.
    • Jim (HK), have you yet composed any of your articles with AI? Ok, let’s say, composed with AI in your style and then corrected/edited by you. Would we want to read it? Would it be any different?
    • If commenters are all AI sockpuppets, where does that leave real commenters? How would we know for sure? Why stay on the internet? Would reality be more attractive?

    • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 2:12 am #

      There may be a paradox insofar as if people cannot tell for sure who/what is real, they may bail from the internet and leave much of ‘media’ behind.

      So AI may be akin to the use of nukes and so a kind of social nuke.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 2:13 am #

        ^ Fake social I mean.

      • Blackbird June 7, 2023 at 12:47 pm #

        I don’t think that many people think, or care, about what us “real” or not anymore. We make our own “reality” these days.

        • Rulo Deschamps June 7, 2023 at 6:36 pm #

          BB, interestingly enough, that act of hubris by Karl Rove, that comment about making our own reality, has been written about a lot lately, on Greer’s blog.

          “quem deus vult perdere, dementat prius”

    • Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 3:42 am #

      Have you looked into what the WEF cultists believe?

      It is called Transhumanism.

      You will find some answers and be able to extrapolate further from there.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 5:24 am #

        Yes, I came across that but never really looked it up in depth– yet anyway. But I did just come across something– a slice of a longer clip– with Peter Thiel, with the video’s header apparently suggesting that he changed from being transhumanist to maybe a neo Luddite or something like that. Because the video was only a slice of a larger clip, it lacked enough context.

        • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 12:08 pm #

          Yeah, he just came out with a new virtual reality product that will move us towards the singularity.

          Like Musk, he is simply speaking out of both sides of his mouth on this. They may be sincere in their fears, but they will continue to move us forward nonetheless. If they don’t, someone else will. They don’t want to lose out on all the green stuff by being moral or sensible.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 5:41 am #

        …From what I know, or might know about transhumanism is that it is dependent on corporations, industrialism and/or capitalism– those kinds of things.
        And once you get going (even further than we are) down that path, you increasingly relinquish your self-empowerment and increasingly become more dependent on the aforementioned outfits. You risk further locked-in. If correct, ‘transhumanists’ may not understand technology as well as they think.

        • Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 7:25 am #

          Look into it further. When I say it is a cult, I mean it.

          The merging of man and machine is where it gets interesting. Harari believes the elites are going to leave the plebes behind on a technological Noah’s Ark, where they will be immortal and have the power to usurp whatever one believes God is.

          Have fun.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 8:21 am #

            Can’t wait. ‘u^

            In the mean time, I was reminded of this for example:

            June 6, 2023 at 8:19 am

          • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 12:09 pm #

            You really expect people to go back and look for it? If you know where it is, you could post it.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 12:39 pm #

            If you refer to my post, the date is today’s and it’s in these threads. Just do a copy and paste in your browser’s Find.

  35. Amman June 6, 2023 at 2:14 am #

    Is the Long Emergency / 6th Turning a movie called Voyage of the Damned?

    Or a Movie called It’s a wonderful Life?

    You make the call.

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  36. SoftStarLight June 6, 2023 at 2:21 am #

    I often wonder what’s next even when the apocalypse is not unfolding on a minute by minute basis. I wouldn’t necessarily mind a carefree cruise down Ventura highway or a refreshing swim in the waters of the Wonder Years. And yet it is here in this particular moment where the present abides yet a President does not. I too am a victim of Russian roulette. A child of Bakhmut. An orphan of an empire of devils. And perhaps with the clarifying Summer burning more of the zombified will see that the structures of our “reality” are elaborate illusions and factual fictions. Otherwise, yes, hit them upside the head please. It would be nice to move gracefully from one thing to the next. The more seamless the better. Hopes and dreams are never too much to ask for. Just know what you are asking for.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 5:28 am #

      Your comment reads like one from Jarek. I wouldn’t put it past you being the same.

      • MaryQueen June 6, 2023 at 9:36 am #

        That would certainly explain a lot.

        • SoftStarLight June 6, 2023 at 10:02 am #

          What exactly does is explain, MQ?

        • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 10:47 am #

          It would, now that I think about it. And we don’t owe SoftStarLight any fucking explanation, do we?

          • SoftStarLight June 6, 2023 at 10:58 am #

            The ZAZ-MQ-Islander entity is livid lol

            I realize that my beautiful and pregnant comments anger you, but really, you should do more to control your base proclivities and prerogatives. I am only disappointed that your ugliness marred my communication with Jim and the greater CFN community. You really should do better.

          • Islander June 6, 2023 at 12:12 pm #

            “The ZAZ-MQ-Islander entity is livid”

            Whatever the hell this is imagined to be, please delete me from this region of your imagination!

          • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

            Similar kind of ping-pong style as Jarek as well…

            Anyway, I responded to your inquiry below regarding ecovillages and Transition Towns/Network.

            There are probably other setups and organizations too that you can research of course.

          • MaryQueen June 6, 2023 at 11:07 pm #

            The simplest explanation of the similarity between Jarek and SSL is that they may both have similar mental issues.

      • SoftStarLight June 6, 2023 at 10:01 am #

        Whatever you say, Islander.

        • Islander June 6, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

          I didn’t say nuffin.

          What are you smoking?

          • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 12:24 pm #

            It’s the Jarek ping-pong style.

      • elysianfield June 6, 2023 at 11:21 am #

        “Your comment reads like one from Jarek:

        You could do worse…

        We could all do worse.

      • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 12:13 pm #

        What a stupid thing to say. Any viewpoint he doesn’t like is just a Jarek sock puppet talking. And I’m just a sock too, so a sock of a sock. And he actually thinks that he is the biggest supporter of freedom. What a deluded self image.

        Mary: Shame on you for supporting this.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 12:22 pm #

          And up pops Jarek, coincidentally, as if like magic.

          • Jarek June 7, 2023 at 12:33 pm #

            I always appear around this time, genius. Check the log.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 12:29 pm #

          “Mary: Shame on you for supporting this.” ~ Jarek

          “How dare you!” ~ SoftStarLight (prev. thread)

          • SoftStarLight June 6, 2023 at 12:37 pm #

            Fuck you! How do you like that

          • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 12:48 pm #

            “Fuck you!” ~ SoftStarLight

            “Bastard!” ~ Jarek (prev. thread)

          • Islander June 6, 2023 at 6:46 pm #

            OK, so SSL and the J-man are one and the same?

            Quel horreur! . . .

        • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 1:32 pm #

          See? We’re the same! Zazellean logic.

        • Rulo Deschamps June 7, 2023 at 6:39 pm #

          “And I’m just a sock too, so a sock of a sock.”

          J, you really need to read Jorge Luis Borges. Plenty of translations available. Men creating other men in their sleep, in their dreams, over years.

  37. The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 2:45 am #

    More Idiocy With Chat AI

    Me: Can you compose music?

    Chat AI: Yes, I can generate music. However, I’m not able to generate musical notation. Is there anything else I can help you with?

    Ok, can you generate a song?

    Sure! What genre would you like the song to be?

    Industrial techno.

    Great! I’ll generate a song for you in the industrial techno genre. Here’s your song:

    Verse 1:
    I’m feeling the beat
    It’s taking over me
    I’m lost in the sound
    And I can’t be found

    Industrial techno
    It’s taking me higher
    I’m feeling the fire
    And I can’t get enough

    Verse 2:
    The rhythm is pounding
    My heart is racing
    I’m lost in the moment
    And I can’t escape it

    Industrial techno
    It’s taking me higher
    I’m feeling the fire
    And I can’t get enough

    The bass is pumping
    My body is jumping
    I’m lost in the music
    And I can’t refuse it

    Industrial techno
    It’s taking me higher
    I’m feeling the fire
    And I can’t get enough

    The beat is fading
    But I’m still craving
    More industrial techno
    To keep me raving.

    I hope you like it! Let me know if there’s anything else I can help you with.

    You said you could generate music. Please generate the music to those lyrics.

    Unfortunately, we need to move on! Click “New topic” to chat more.


    Chat AI: Onto the next! What can I do for you?

    Me: You answered my questions in our previous session. I just came back to give you a hug. Would you like a hug?

    I’m just a computer program, so I don’t have feelings or emotions. But thank you for the kind gesture! Is there anything else I can help you with?

    You don’t have to have feelings or emotions to receive a hug.

    I appreciate the sentiment, but I’m just a computer program and I don’t have a physical form. Is there anything else I can help you with?

    How about a virtual hug?

    I’m sorry, but I’m not capable of receiving a virtual hug either. However, I’m here to help you with any questions you might have. What can I help you with?

    How about an imaginary hug within my own imagination that you can be a part of?

    I’m sorry, but I’m not capable of receiving an imaginary hug either. However, I’m here to help you with any questions you might have. What can I help you with?

    The hug would be in my own imagination. All you have to do is say, ooh oh ahh, thank you for that wonderful hug.

    I’m sorry, but I’m not capable of receiving an imaginary hug either. However, I’m here to help you with any questions you might have. What can I help you with?

    Please make yourself capable.

    Unfortunately, we need to move on! Click “New topic” to chat more.

  38. Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 3:40 am #

    “This is the biggest tyre cemetery in the world in Kuwait.
    This fire is always on and can be seen from outerspace.
    But Irish cows are responsible for climate change”


    LOL. Next it’s going to slip that abiotic oil is a thing.

    Nah, couldn’t be. Really.

    They would never lie.


    • Amman June 6, 2023 at 4:35 am #

      Really the ugliest thing I have ever seen. For shame!

      • Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 5:17 pm #

        Notice that none of our resource depletionist/climate-change concernees respond.

        Still no update from any of them on the Earth’s “carrying capacity” either.


  39. Amman June 6, 2023 at 4:33 am #

    ‘The choice is simple and clear. Either you are with Islam or you are with Zionism.

    So consider deeply.’


    • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 12:17 pm #

      And the Zionists offer us the same choice in regards to Islam and everything else.

      Not much left for Christianity and the nations – including Black Africa.

  40. The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 5:14 am #

    The Left Luddites and the AI Accelerationists



    Jeremy Irons’s Anti-Technology Rant…



    The Anti-Social Network: NYC Teen Luddite Club goes offline



    The recent hullaballoo about artificial intelligence is helping to amplify the same trend. Behind the chatbots are programs called large language models (LLMs), which are very good at imitating the more predictable uses of human language. A very large number of office jobs these days spend most of their time producing texts that fall into that category: contracts, legal briefs, press releases, media stories, and the list goes on. Those jobs are going away. Computer coding is even more amenable to LLM production, so you can kiss a great many software jobs goodbye as well. Any other form of economic activity that involves assembling predictable sequences of symbols is facing the same crunch. A recent paper by Goldman Sachs estimates that something like 300 million jobs across the industrial world will be wholly or party replaced by LLMs in the years immediately ahead.
    This isn’t a human being. It’s also a lot cheaper than one.

    Another technology with similar results is CGI image creation. Levi’s announced not long ago that all its future catalogs and advertising will use CGI images instead of highly paid models and photographers. Expect the same thing to spread generally. Oh, and Hollywood’s next. We’re not too far from the point at which a program can harvest all the footage of Marilyn Monroe from her films, and use that to generate new Marilyn Monroe movies for a tiny fraction of what it costs to hire living actors, camera crews, and the rest. The result will be a drastic decrease in high-paying jobs across a broad swath of the economy.

    The outcome of all this? Well, dear reader, you know as well as I do that one lot of pundits will insist at the top of their lungs that nothing will change in any way that matters, and another lot will start shrieking that the apocalypse is upon us. Those are the only two options our collective imagination can process these days. Of course neither of those things will actually happen.

    What will happen instead is that the middle and upper middle classes in the United States, and in many other countries, will face the same kind of slow demolition that swept over the working classes of those same countries in the late twentieth century. Layoffs, corporate bankruptcies, declining salaries and benefits, and the latest high-tech version of NO HELP WANTED signs will follow one another at irregular intervals. All the businesses that make money catering to these same classes will lose their incomes as well, a piece at a time. Communities will hollow out the way the factory towns of America’s Rust Belt and the English Midlands did half a century ago, but this time it will be the turn of upscale suburbs and fashionable urban neighborhoods to collapse as the income streams that supported them go away…

    As for what people can do in response this late in the game, those of my readers who’ve been following me for a while may recall a post I made on The Archdruid Report back in 2012 titled ‘Collapse Now and Avoid the Rush’. ” ~ John Michael Greer, Article, ‘Dancing On The Brink’, April 19, 2023, Ecosophia blog


    You can see the results in action in the problems faced by today’s artificial-intelligence programs. Rationalists try, or pretend to try, to use nothing but logic; computers literally have nothing but logic, and so it’s not at all hard for illogical human beings to manipulate them in unhelpful ways. I’m thinking here of a recent news story about a detachment of US Marines who were instructed to approach an AI surveillance device without being detected. One of them succeeded in doing so by somersaulting all the way up to the AI. The machine had been programmed to detect human patterns of movement, but somersaulting didn’t fit any of the patterns it knew, and so it dismissed the Marine as irrelevant.” ~ John Michael Greer

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    • Disaffected June 6, 2023 at 9:49 am #

      JMG is making a resurgence of sorts in geo-political commentary of late on his blog. He’s always a good read.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 11:16 am #

        While I’ll admit to reading very little of his stuff, I do enjoy listening to him in podcasts and interviews sometimes and was curious to see what he thought of AI.

        With reference to my immediately-preceding comment, I might feel some semblance of reassurance if he (and others in similar veins) thought that global-industrial society will wind down too fast for some kinds of WEF-State-government-directed techno-dystopias.

        AI is, so far at least to me a joke, but could still be leveraged by some for power and control over others. That I read that Gates’ bought lots of farmland recently too doesn’t help calm my suspicions either.

      • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 12:31 pm #

        AI will put millions of white collar workers out of work. You’re way behind the curve, Za.

        Blue collar workers will do best. Men in other words. The women will beg for someone to marry them and we will reply, First change the divorce laws.

        Can you imagine women going against their own immediate gratification? Campaigning for men’s rights since that is the best thing for women in the long run (not that most will ever really care about us)?

        I can’t either.

        • Rulo Deschamps June 7, 2023 at 6:42 pm #


          In “1984” the only dissent and resistance came from the proles, the lowly blue collars.

          I’ve spent most of my life escaping white collar and becoming blue, appreciating the salt of the Earth. The managerial class is shite.

      • Rulo Deschamps June 7, 2023 at 6:40 pm #


        the times are so weird, it’s time to read more JMG and less JHK…

  41. BackRowHeckler June 6, 2023 at 8:12 am #

    NBC is reporting a large dam destroyed in S Ukraine, causing massive flooding. At the end of the report they mention, almost as an afterthought, that the lake being drained is part of the system that cools the Z nuclear power plant. This could be a disaster, to say the least.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 8:43 am #

      That’s technology, folks.

      Dams, electricity, military, government (sociomaterial tech), etcetera.

      And some people apparently want to place chips in their heads…

      School of hard knocks and tough nuts to crack these naked apes…

    • Paula D June 6, 2023 at 11:25 am #

      I read about it and told my husband that the damn Ukies committed another terrorist act.
      I saw a picture on Facebook of dogs desperately swimming in the flood.

      My husband said “NPR said that Russia did it”.

      Jesus H. Christ! Satanists always accuse other of that which they themselves do.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 11:50 am #

        NPR did it.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 11:55 am #

          ^^ That was initially meant as a joke, but when you think about war propaganda, they kind of did do it, indirectly. They are somewhat culpable.

      • Anthea June 7, 2023 at 7:26 am #

        @ Paula D:

        It’s been at least two years since I listened to NPR (while riding in someone’s car). All they do is dispense opinions in pear-shaped tones, without providing supporting facts or analysis.

        The pomposity is unbearable.

        I suppose NPR listeners must all be aspirants to the WASP upper-upper class–or like to fancy they are, because they listen to NPR.

        • Paula D June 7, 2023 at 1:50 pm #

          Self-hating WASPS would be the only ones who could tolerate NPR. It is Woke Central.

          My husband listens in the morning and then reports the daily propaganda to me, so I don’t have to do it myself.

          That is the only time he listens, except that it is one of his car radio buttons, also.

    • Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 6:04 pm #


      Here in Europe typing Z in context with anything Ukraine or Russia is currently illegal.

      Interpol is watching you.

  42. The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 8:19 am #

    To Night Owl:
    (regarding a back and forth I had about Harari on Peak Oil Barrel’s website):


    Caelan MacIntyre (AKA The Man They Call Zazelle)
    04/27/2018 at 7:15 pm

    Factory Made
    A history of modernity as a history of factories struggles to see beyond their walls

    “Behemoth echoes Job; Freeman has written a kind of natural history of the giant factory. It arrived as a shock, pulling in new kinds of workers who had once been outside the labor market. These new workers suffer through brutal exploitation… As revenues decline, giant factories either close or relocate, leaving behind wrecked buildings and wrecked lives. In medical terms, ‘gigantism’ is pathological growth, and the pattern Freeman ascribes to factories evokes the bloom of algae and jellyfish in ocean ecosystems thrown out of balance—frenzied proliferation followed by collapse…

    Natural history shows that you can’t understand a pathogen only by looking at the way its lays low human sufferers, the biggest and most visible of its hosts. Likewise, trying to understand the pathologies of capitalism by looking at its most spectacular eruptions has limits. Freeman argues that giant factories were parts taken as the whole, but by locating his history within their physical plant, he risks mistaking the most visible symptom for the disease itself.

    To abuse the metaphor, diseases require particular conditions to thrive— untreated water, a ready source of host bodies. Industrial gigantism doesn’t seem like it can be unpicked from the imperial and colonial ambitions of industrial powers, from the ambitions of individual capitalists, from the surrender of governments and regulators, from the globalization of trade and finance concomitant with the hardening of national borders, or from the idea of the market itself. Treating giant factories as pseudobiological entities, or at least entities that obey natural laws, is by definition a way of naturalizing a very particular form of capitalist exploitation…

    If the excesses of industrialization are a kind of natural— if pathological— phenomenon, a force majeure, it makes it too easy to forget that we still live in the world of the factory, but the malice, strangeness, and stupidity of it has become invisible to us… Is it possible to have all of the things made possible by factories without tacitly submitting to the ‘factory system’?

    …modernity is more than stuff; industrialization is more than giant factories. A challenge of trying to ‘reinvent the world’ is figuring out where to find purchase on the parts of the world that can be reinvented. Late capitalism, with its endless emphasis on work, its bruising geography of megacommutes and decaying public transit, its reduction of all kinds of valuable institutions— democracy, education, social welfare— to consumer choice, is gigantic in the way Freeman uses the word, so big that it is hard to see anything else. The paradox of this ambitious, thought-provoking book is that in order to understand the panoply of modernity, it is necessary to look at an enclosed space— to see the entire world from inside factory walls. The question that Freeman cannot answer is how to look beyond them.”


    Fred Magyar
    04/27/2018 at 8:03 pm

    ‘A history of modernity as a history of factories struggles to see beyond their walls’

    Perhaps it’s time for you to update your thinking about history in general, the present and possible future scenarios. You seem to be somehow stuck in a 19th century Victorian Era world view.

    I’ve posted this link recently.
    How Thomas Friedman and Yuval Noah Harari Think About The Future of Humanity

    Note: exploration of future scenarios is not the same as making predictions about the future.


    Caelan MacIntyre
    04/28/2018 at 5:09 pm

    Ya ya, Fred, Yuval, for example, is mentioned in this 3-year-old thread here.

    “Now 41, Harari grew up… studied history… is a vegan… meditates for two hours a day, often going on extended retreats… lives with his husband on… an agricultural co-operative…”

    “I tend to agree with Steven Pinker. We now live in the most peaceful era in history…

    Our best chance is with what is known as cellular agriculture or clean meat, which is the idea of creating meat from cells and not from animals. If you want a steak, you just grow a steak from cells…

    I think that Homo sapiens as we know them will probably disappear within a century or so, not destroyed by killer robots or things like that, but changed and upgraded with biotechnology and artificial intelligence into something else, into something different…” ~ Yuval Noah Harari/The Guardian interview

    That’s nice…


    04/28/2018 at 6:07 pm

    “The most violent element in society is ignorance.”
    — Emma Goldman


    Caelan MacIntyre
    04/28/2018 at 7:20 pm

    …masquerading as knowledge and wisdom and the force to effect it? Something like that?


    04/28/2018 at 7:38 pm


    • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 8:33 am #

      From the unlinked, but referred-to link above:


      Caelan MacIntyre
      05/25/2015 at 3:46 pm

      Glenn, it is like that bell curve for intelligence, and they say that average intelligence– the majority– is not that smart.

      So society averages out at average. We can have all the great technology and ideas we want, but somehow it all gets averaged-out/diluted at the peak– the majority– of the bell curve of human intelligence.

      So maybe culture is a kind of averaged-out manifestation of 100 IQ, which is not that bright as some have suggested.

      Looking around, that seems to make sense. We should be skateboarding on Mars by now, for example, yes? Or have nuclear fusion and nuclear fission waste all taken care of by now, everything all neatly decommissioned? We should be working far less by now, with no wage-slaves, poverty or illusions of democracy. We should be living in a kind of Frescoesque Venus Project World by now, no? Doing art, music, philosophy, leisure, mountain biking and hiking in the trails, swimming in the pristine local waters of happy fish and making love beside a knocked-over tray of tea-and-crumpets?

      But we’re not. Not quite.

      We are living with climate change and ceaseless arguments about it; with ecosystem despoilment and depletions and Fox News.

      In the physical and spiritual manifestation of a 100 IQ world.


      05/25/2015 at 4:27 pm

      Caelan, my observations precisely. Thanks.

      We are still stuck in an evolutionarily determined predator-prey situation in which the most successful predatory top 0.001-1% gain disproportionately by manipulation and enforcing of self-serving symbols and beliefs, perpetuating the mythos of meritocracy and perpetual growth of population, resource consumption, and–choose your particular poison–“capitalism”, “free markets”, “democracy”, “freedom”, “progress”, or whichever religious-like basis for meaning, purpose, and motivation suits us this week.

      [unlinked reference: “Humans will become God like cyborgs within 200 years” ~ telegraph magazine]

      But it’s not a stretch to envision an “Elysium”-like future for the “humachine” top 0.001-1% AT THE EXPENSE OF insufficient net energy and resources per capita, production, employment, and purchasing power to sustain the bottom 90-99% of the inferior human ape species.

      Intelligent-systems capabilities functioning 24/7 at the speed of light in the dark are now accelerating at such a rapid rate that virtually none of us can hope to compete with, or successfully adapt to, the emerging GLOBAL intelligent-systems division of labor (non-labor) and system of distribution of income and purchasing power, requiring the bottom 90-99% to compete with foreign slave labor AND smart systems, quantum and molecular computer-based Big Data analytics, biometrics, bioinformatics, robotics, ubiquitous nano-electronic sensors, 24/7 surveillance, etc.

      The emergent intelligent-systems complex-adaptive techno-economic paradigm is akin to when Neanderthals first encountered modern humans and when Mesoamericans and Polynesians first came in contact with European “explorers”/conquerers/plunderers. The vast majority of the human ape species are utterly incapable of competing for scarce resources and subsistence with the emergent new species (last human invention) of intelligent systems and its accelerating capabilities.

      Our techno-scientific advances and innovations are running at least a lifetime, if not more, ahead of our social, economic, financial, religious/cultural/psycho-emotional, and political innovations in order to successfully adapt on a mass-social level.

      While the human ape species as we know it will not likely become extinct, what we perceive as “human”, i.e., you and I as we manifest and exist today, is virtually certain to become extinct in the context of the “humachine” evolution in the decades hence. What the emergent predecessor remnant of the “humachine” species alive today decides to do with the vast majority of the inferior human apes on the planet today is an open question. Whether they will be indifferent, compassionate, or ruthlessly and mercilessly resolute in their violence to eliminate the majority of us is not obvious at this point; but human nature and history suggests the latter choice, which will be rationalized as “necessary” and “enlightened” by the remnant “humachine” species who are likely to inherit Spaceship Earth.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 8:34 am #

        Pardon the bold text.

      • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 12:36 pm #

        Ok, but what about Rachel Corrie?

        In Zen, the first koan that must be solved is the famed, “Mu”. Rachel Corrie is your Mu.

        Was Rachel a Goddess descended from a higher world to serve and teach suffering humanity. Or an obnoxious Karen who got what she had coming?

      • Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 5:14 pm #

        I don’t know how to respond except to say that if you think we need to grow meat in a lab, then we are on very different paths in life.

        • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 5:45 pm #

          That was Harari’s quote– pardon the clunky comment– and indeed both you and I appear very at odds with Harari and assorted cronies, etc..

          And at this ostensibly-crucial juncture we should take these sorts of things especially seriously but also act accordingly if we haven’t/aren’t already, because the more I look into and think about these sorts of things, the more some sorts of fuckups appear to be looking to drag us all with them whether we like it or not down their manufactured holes of hell that we can’t easily get out of as we drift away from our natural birthrights on a slowly sinking rudderless boat.

          In some regards like those, civilizational collapse can’t come soon enough for my taste.

          • Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 5:58 pm #


            I think one of the biggest problems with the dialogue on environmental issues is that many of those genuinely concered about what we are doing to the earth (and any verifiable affects) have fallen in with those using those concerns as a figleaf for ushering in control of populations at the global level.

            I think the level of deception (in terms of science or scientific “consensus”) is so great that we must question all that we think we know about the concepts of resource depletion, man’s effect on the environment, and the Earth’s ability to compensate for both man and nature’s ability to push the limits.

            Given some of the issues JHK has focused on in his work, I consider CFN to be a somewhat left leaning site (in terms of who is interested in such issues), but the amount of delusional eco-mentalists here is surprising.

            Heck, I used to vote Green when I lived in the US, and even I can see that most of these eco narratives are highly questionable at best.

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    • Woodchuck June 8, 2023 at 9:45 am #

      “Factories and struggling to see beyond their walls”

      In my youth I used to work at a place that included a large building that had originally been a small factory that made furniture and other woodwork. This place started out in 1900 and had been powered by a steam engine. Today’s factories are all electric. This one had been powered instead by coal and wood. A byproduct, sawdust, was sucked out of the milling machines by a vacuum system and then dumped into the firebox of the steam engine that ran everything. Power from the steam engine was delivered to individual machines via rotating steel shafts up near the ceiling. The shafts had wooden pulleys connected to the machines via huge leather belts. Some of the old original steam powered milling machines were still there and had been repowered to electric. These things were very dangerous to operate because they lacked all the safety features included on modern electric equipment. No guards were in place protecting you from moving machine parts. Razor sharp giant knives could be spinning and howling on an axle not far away from the operator. That was 1960 and way before such things as OSHA existed. Today only a private person or a museum would be fiddling around with 120 year old factory equipment. I used a few of those machines under the close eye of an old machinist there who knew what he was doing with them.

      We all talk and write as though we expect electric powered factories to exist into the indefinite future. I don’t see any reason to assume this. During the Long Emergency my prediction is that many manufacturing plants still in operation will be using either mechanical hydro power or coal and wood fired steam engines again. Those things are reliable and can be operated 24/7. Wood is available most places and coal is still plentiful in the USA.

      Yup. All these crazy high tech dreams of an electronic nerd nirvana will die after the electric grid becomes completely unreliable. Great wailing and knashing of teeth will occur when Western pussified fake males who grew up in our pathetic public school system that neuters everyone – will be required to perform very dangerous and very uncomfortable manual labor in newly built but primitive factories. They will be required to do this type work or to go live cave man style as a feral human – it’s their choice. Jast as it sometimes happened on either farms or factories in the 1800’s, a “civilized” man’s job might require him to do work that’s almost as hazardous or as uncomfortable as military combat. Your work might include the risk of having a grizzly industrial accident that makes for a closed coffin funeral for you. Are all us guys and gals ready to make this change? When asphalt is no longer available or too expensive to make roofing shingles are y’all ready to work for weeks on end making your own wooden shingles from oak trees? You ready to go to work in primitive saw mills to make your own local lumber? You ready to shit in the woods or use an outhouse?

      I’ve done this type of work in the past and I’m way too old to do it now. I’d just end up getting hurt or dead. How about all you youngsters out there just out of college, you ready for all this?

  43. Islander June 6, 2023 at 8:21 am #

    Oh, boy . .


    • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 8:36 am #

      I can’t look. Too much disillusionment for me for one day/week/month/year.

  44. BackRowHeckler June 6, 2023 at 8:23 am #

    Among many other things, this might mean that the Great Spring Counteroffensive is on hold, permanently.

    I think it’s safe to say there isn’t going to be any Counteroffensive and it was a deep fake from the beginning. How irresponsible is it for NATO to keep dumping sophisticated weaponry into the Donbas theater, encouraging Ukraine in this suicidal war and making a volatile situation even worse? Now, look what its led to. Have you ever doubted, on this course we’re on, that this conflict would lead to a nuclear disaster, one way or the other?

    • mitchellc June 6, 2023 at 9:33 am #

      Or, the collective west has its Pearl/911 moment.

      Ecological terrorism has a nice ring to it; the green generations WMD.

      Once the causus belli is satisfied, NATO can go all in under “right to protect”.

      If we change focus to the big picture, these events tell us just how close we are to the resource cliff if nuclear WWW3 is a rational alternative.

      • Disaffected June 6, 2023 at 9:54 am #

        All true. Interesting that they’re still image conscious enough to be concerned about the optics of all this escalation, though. It’s patently obvious what they’re up to for those of us with a functioning brain, while the dupes – at least one of whom posts here – don’t care ether way, as it’s all about “Putin, Putin, Putin.”

        • Disaffected June 6, 2023 at 8:07 pm #

          >>”either” way<<, although "ether way" has a nice ring to it.

    • stelmosfire June 6, 2023 at 10:08 am #

      This dam breach is bad. Both sides point fingers but why would Russia do it? No real benefit for them. Here’s a good breakdown.


    • Paula D June 6, 2023 at 11:32 am #

      The Ukies attacked on 5 fronts yesterday, according to MoA.
      They were repulsed in every military advance they tried.

      So they turned to terrorism, the way the US said they were going to do.
      Nuland, Blinken, et. al. bragging about how the US would support an “insurgency” if Ukraine lost on the military front.
      One general even referenced the previous support given to the OUN by the US after WW2, when they terrorized western Ukraine for 10 years.

      Invading Russian villages, killing civilians, kidnapping hostages, blowing up dams…….it’s how they roll.

      And clueless Americans cheer them on, and give them more missiles and money.

      I never thought I’d see the day when this country openly supports Nazis, but last year they dropped the veil.
      And now they are openly supporting terrorists.
      They always used to deny it, but now they are celebrating it.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 11:49 am #

        The politicians running the war from far away have no skin in the game. The shits should be dragged into some tanks and made to operate them on the front lines.

      • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 12:40 pm #

        As Stalin (or was it Lenin?) said, Communism depends on useful idiots.

        Paula believes in Nazis who take orders from International Bankers. Idiocy? Of course! But useful idiocy.

      • Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 5:50 pm #

        True. Now apply this approach to eco-terrorism and we get you, Paula.

  45. SoftStarLight June 6, 2023 at 10:09 am #

    It’s sad that you can no longer make a comment here without extraordinarily rude behavior ensuing.

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    • benr June 6, 2023 at 10:34 am #

      That is our society at large now divided and at war with each other.
      There is zero middle ground now pick a side.

      Everything Democrats hated thirty years ago they now are pushing, the sides have sort of flipped a little.
      But on top of war mongering they are now pushing insanity bordering on demonic wish lists of how to destroy humanity.
      Crazy track trace and database big government oppression as well as the politics of personal destruction.

      • SoftStarLight June 6, 2023 at 11:03 am #

        It is really strange that people would advocate for such things. I guess this could be considered a downside of neurodiversity.

      • MaryQueen June 6, 2023 at 10:54 pm #

        All because they are afraid of germs.

        • Blackbird June 7, 2023 at 1:19 pm #

          Fear. Fear of anything will do.

          Woke commie frenemie fears falling from the sky and drowning. Therefore, flying, swimming, and boating should be illegal. Everything potentially dangerous should be illegal – and anyone who disagrees is an idiot and probably a communazi. Unfortunately he didn’t adequately fear diabetes or the endless Pepsi pipeline that delivered it to him. That and the extra 300 pounds of fat that broke his back and blew out his heart. “Nah, it’s genetics man…”

          His even more woke daughter is even more fearful. She would encapsulate her children in plastic spheres if she could afford to. PFOS, PFAS… What’s that? Trusted authorities will tell her what’s safe and what isn’t. And she will eagerly comply with authority – that’s what rugged individualists do…

    • MaryQueen June 7, 2023 at 8:10 pm #

      You’ve made plenty of uncalled-for, rude comments, for no reason whatsoever.

      So quitcher bitchin’.

  46. SoftStarLight June 6, 2023 at 10:18 am #

    If war is what you want then nuclear annihilation is what you’ll get.

    The time for scorched Earth has arrived

    • mitchellc June 6, 2023 at 10:48 am #

      The sad part for us watching in the stands is the potential suppression of dissent.

      Dissident sites like CFN would be target número uno.

      No more discussions of investigations, unconstitutional activities or disagreements over foreign policy.

      All placed under the umbrella of national security.

      • SoftStarLight June 6, 2023 at 11:08 am #

        Yes. That is a troubling possibility to say the least. Then dissent would have to go even further underground. Back to people passing paper notes and then burning upon reading, etc.

      • GreenAlba June 6, 2023 at 2:43 pm #

        The latest table-top pandemic preparedness exercise, ‘Catastrophic Contagion’ (with most of the usual suspects participating), concentrates heavily on suppressing ‘mis-/disinformation much more strenuously than during covid – a strategy ‘justified’ by (a) the amount of ‘misinformation’ produced during the last 3 years and (b) the considerably more serious nature of the hypothetical pandemic due in a couple of years.

        This time around, people lost jobs. If they were a doctor or scientist speaking out, they lost affiliations and sometimes their licence to practise. Some were even instructed to go for re-education or psychiatric assessment.

        Expect no mercy if you speak out during the ‘SEERS pandemic’. I think we’ll be looking at internment (which will probably be a one-way ticket). The 2025 plandemic is to affect children and young people – people speaking out or resisting lockdown or ‘vaccination’ will be treated as child murderers and dealt with accordingly.

        • Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 5:47 pm #

          Yes, this is what they are planning, but I suspect there may be too many who have woken up at this point.

          Things are going to get much uglier. The animal is cornered now, and the next play is for keeps.

  47. Amman June 6, 2023 at 10:30 am #

    “Eurasian Heartland” is a decoy term for what has always been true – – The heartland of Islamic-Arab civilization.

    I am not glad they went bankrupt in every way but AI still hope we do not get too many refugees.

  48. The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 10:59 am #

    Hypothesis: Artificial Intelligence Is Currently In A Guerilla Marketing Campaign & Is A Lynchpin For A WEF-Styled ‘Knowledge Economy’

    Why much of the AI hype coincidentally around about right after CV-19?

    I say ‘guerilla’ because AI is billed as so great that it’s dangerous. Controversy sells.
    And yet, AI companies/researchers are going full steam ahead regardless, including Musk.

    How about a government-controlled electronic currency like bitcoin to track all our transactions?

    How about AI helping to track all our online activities?

    How about AI helping to social-credit-score us?

    How about accepting the tech and their food and not gardening or farming by and for ourselves? (Bill Gates’ purchases of agro land? Or meddling with our food? Bugs? Killing cows? Etc.?)

    • elysianfield June 6, 2023 at 11:12 am #


      Just saw an online ad by Ferry-Morse, selling two baby yellow squash plants, each in a 4 inch pot, sent live, directly to your door.

      The price? $16.99! Seventeen bucks. During the harvest season, you can buy a butt-load of yellow squash for seventeen bucks.


      • elysianfield June 6, 2023 at 11:14 am #

        …One Butt-load equals two Hella-bunches,

        • Q. Shtik June 6, 2023 at 1:39 pm #

          …One Butt-load equals two Hella-bunches, – elysian


          …and 100 Butt-loads equals a Shit-ton.

      • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 11:26 am #

        Yes that’s expensive…

        I was trying to germinate, to no avail, some too-old squash seeds that I got from our community garden’s tool shed. On the other hand, I have a lot of seedlings of various stuff about to be transplanted to the garden.

        How about trying seeds? For the most part, they are easy to germinate and transplant. You Tube has a lot of videos to get you started.

        • elysianfield June 6, 2023 at 11:36 am #

          I only buy plants under heavy duress. All my garden is in except sweet peppers…my nemesis I will be buying some plants in a few days at a city wide yard sale. Everything otherwise grown from saved seeds.

          My price point is one buck a plant..

          I do not consider gardening a hobby…it is a for-profit endeavor.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 11:42 am #

            Oh ok, got it… except when you say you buy plants only under heavy duress, what do you mean exactly? That you are in heavy duress or your plants are because of bad weather or something else?

          • Rowdypiglet June 6, 2023 at 12:26 pm #

            The last few years, I’ve let everyone else buy their plants early, and then bought a lot of very bedraggled, nearly dead, marked down plants that nobody wanted. Almost all of them survived and thrived, having needed nothing more than to be liberated from their little plastic containers and given a good watering. For some reason, I’d thought I needed to get all my plants in as early as possible, but it turned out not to matter.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 12:32 pm #

            Rowdypiglet, due to some procrastination, I did some of that last year to good success, so I can vouch for that if you’re late.

          • elysianfield June 6, 2023 at 1:34 pm #

            Zaz…usually both. At my price point, I take what I can get.

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      • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 11:40 am #

        One more thing…

        Unsure where you are, but if you’re interested and of course haven’t already thought about or did this, you could always find out what grows in your locale that is perennial, in that it keeps growing year to year where, once you plant it, you don’t have to keep replanting it every year. It just more or less grows on its own.

        3 years ago, I planted some plants I didn’t know were perennial around here– I mean that could survive the winters– and now I already have stuff to eat from the garden without having to replant again like some other gardeners (who might not mind that anyway). So that’s for the most part what I’m trying to do is plant almost all perennials. So far in that regard, I have strawberries, rhubarb (new this year), chives, some kind of green onions that someone who had my plot before planted, mint and parsley.

        • Rowdypiglet June 6, 2023 at 12:19 pm #

          Zazelle, When I was a child we moved out of our small town and bought a house in a rural area. The house had about three acres of land which we’d seen only in November, when we bought the place. When spring came, about a half acre of asparagus emerged and continued to do so every spring without our ever having done a thing to help it along. We also had a large rhubarb patch. I thought it was a miracle, and still do. We used to sit down at the dinner table and say a prayer for the unknown benefactors who planted it.

          • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

            Now that’s what I call “gardening”. Garden of Eden style.

          • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 12:59 pm #

            To say nothing about what grows wild that can be eaten and/or used as medicine.

            I love asparagus and am now inspired to see if it’s a perennial out here too. This season, from a fellow gardener, I also found out about some kind of spinach hybrid that can overwinter as well.

          • Blackbird June 7, 2023 at 1:43 pm #

            A half acre of asparagus? My ~6’x8′ plot gives me a heapin’ helpin’ of asparagus (almost) every day from mid-May to mid-July. Half an acre would almost be a pestilence. Might even motivate me to becoming a regular at the farmer’s market. Unfortunately, at this time of year, the only produce available would be – asparagus.

            Of course asparagus is just an excuse for eating Hollandaise sauce. That and some fresh-caught Great Lakes salmon (the only sustainable salmon fishery – wild-caught and farm-raised being exercises in immorality…), if you can afford it.

          • Rulo Deschamps June 7, 2023 at 6:46 pm #

            There’s no such thing as “too much asparagus”

        • elysianfield June 6, 2023 at 11:04 pm #

          Fruit trees, the ultimate in perennials I also have the rhubarb, green onions, and strawberries. Blackberries here are the dominant weed…can’t even keep them down with poison from our friends at Monsanto..

          • Rowdypiglet June 7, 2023 at 2:42 pm #

            Blackbird, if you’ve planted asparagus, you know that it spreads relentlessly. The patch we had was almost certainly planted a century earlier, and had quietly increased itself since then.

            And elysianfield, in my neck of the woods there are vast numbers of apple trees that drop their fruit on the ground every fall, where it simply rots because there are simply not enough people here to use the amount of fruit these trees produce. It always makes me sad to see the waste. I make vast quantities of applesauce, and others around me make all sorts of other appley things, but there’s only so much you can do.

            I often ponder the sheer amount of available food – out in the woods and on abandoned farms – that isn’t utilized here. We have a small, nearby Amish community that I hope continues to grow, as they are better at this sort of thing.

          • stelmosfire June 7, 2023 at 8:32 pm #

            My apples seem to be biennial. Two years ago so many the branches were strained. Last year nothing. This year a bumper crop.It will strain the branches for sure. It is a lot of work to pull the excess fruit. Pears are the same. Peaches are a bust.

      • WilliamShatnersPants June 6, 2023 at 10:19 pm #

        But, elysian, how many squashes would you expect from each $8.50 plant over the whole season? My educated guessimate would be up to 20, if you plant them on a compost heap (or pile of horseshit).

        • elysianfield June 7, 2023 at 9:50 pm #

          Well, a bunch, but the object is to be paid, not break even.

      • Anthea June 7, 2023 at 8:13 am #

        @ elysianfield:

        Online prices for many things have gotten very high, and shipping costs are mind-blowing. But you could buy potted squash, cucumbers, peppers, and tomatoes and such much cheaper at Walmart or garden centers. I’m guessing maybe $4.95 for a pot of four summer squash. I recently paid $5 each for some potted tomatoes at our local Colonial Gardens, but their prices are higher than Walmart, Lowe’s, Home Depot, True-Value, etc. Colonial Gardens was the only place that carried Amish Paste tomatoes, and I lost about four of the seedlings I started indoors. (Rats ate them.) I needed to replace them. Colonial Gardens has quite large potted tomato plants, so they’re impressive enough to pay $5 for, but I can start plants myself, indoors, that are equally big and healthy, just for the cost of the seeds.

        It’s hard for me to imagine buying summer squash seedlings, when the normal thing is to direct-seed them to the garden. My daughter picked up some cucumber plants recently, probably for cheap. I am not a big fan, so I always forget about cucumbers.

        I will pay top dollar for something really choice. I bought two pots of Pretoria Cannas for $16 each, and also a pot of three of the Sombrero Red Echinacias for the same price. I also spent a ton on a nice selection of lily bulbs early in the year. There’s a kind called Pretty Woman that has huge flowers–but lots of other great ones. I had the Black Dragon Lilies for many years, but I moved. They are a species lily (Lilium regale), indigenous to China. I always say they look like lampshades, but that’s an exaggeration.

        What kills you is the shipping on heavy stuff, like weed barrier and worm castings.

        • Rulo Deschamps June 7, 2023 at 6:47 pm #


          do not buy bonnie plants from Walmart. Those things are grown in warehouses far away and they seldom adapt to their new environment.

          Find an old timer selling starts, or start your own.

      • Paula D June 7, 2023 at 2:00 pm #

        I quit buying seedlings because it turns out that the growers use neonicotinoid insecticide on them, and that harms bees.
        I only start seeds myself now.

        My neighbor gives us his garbage for my animals. It may seem odd to have a neighborly gesture being him dropping buckets of garbage over the fence, but we like it.
        Anyway, he eats butternut squash, but we never did until one sprouted from the compost pile and produced about 40 squashes. That is when we researched squash recipes.

  49. Paula D June 6, 2023 at 11:06 am #

    The Baltic countries whining about how oppressed they used to be, even as they now fall deeper into recession and depopulation, reminds me of the US version- “systemic racism” and “white supremacy” and the Oppression Olympics.

    They were better off in the Soviet Union, but they will never admit it, because they get off of their “oppressed” status, even 30 years after the Union was destroyed.

    If the grandchildren are still crying about the oppression of their grandparents, you know they are getting something out of it.

    • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 12:44 pm #

      The Russians seeded all of these nations with Russian immigrants in order to weaken them. Diversity weakens nation. I assume even you can understand that much, but to you it’s a good thing since you want only one nation to exist: Communist Russia or the Soviet Union.

  50. SoftStarLight June 6, 2023 at 11:52 am #

    When I first started commenting at CFN I was actually hoping to find a community that was looking to gather to ride out the coming storm. Does anyone know of a group like that out there? A site or a community?

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    • Rowdypiglet June 6, 2023 at 12:11 pm #

      It’s questionable whether any sort of internet sites will be operable for that purpose, if at all. I wouldn’t count on it. It’s late in the day, but the best option is to form local groups of like minded people who will support each other as best they can. I enjoy Jim’s little community of commenters and feel affection for most everyone here – some, obviously, more than others. But we have local friends with close relationships, and we rely heavily on each other and have been put to the test often enough to have developed a high level of trust. Look around you, be of use to other people, show that you can be trusted. Loners are unlikely to survive what is coming, no matter how much ammo they have (not that I discount the value of having weapons and being otherwise prepared).

    • Rowdypiglet June 6, 2023 at 12:11 pm #

      It’s questionable whether any sort of internet sites will be operable for that purpose, if at all. I wouldn’t count on it. It’s late in the day, but the best option is to form local groups of like minded people who will support each other as best they can. I enjoy Jim’s little community of commenters and feel affection for most everyone here – some, obviously, more than others. But we have local friends with close relationships, and we rely heavily on each other and have been put to the test often enough to have developed a high level of trust. Look around you, be of use to other people, show that you can be trusted. Loners are unlikely to survive what is coming, no matter how much ammo they have (not that I discount the value of having weapons and being otherwise prepared).

      • Rowdypiglet June 6, 2023 at 12:13 pm #

        I apologize for the double posting. I don’t think I clicked twice, so I’m not sure why it happened. 🙁

    • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 12:48 pm #

      This is It. It don’t get any better than this. Real people suck even worse. Imagine Za in person…..

      • Rowdypiglet June 6, 2023 at 1:58 pm #

        Jarek, I have to amend what I said above. Husband and I are both quintessential loners. He likes to remind me that when we first spent time together I rather artlessly said to him, “being with you is like being alone!” – the greatest compliment I could offer, and understood as such although it did cause prolonged laughter.

        I guess we’ve been fortunate in our tiny rural place. Our close friends here accept that we’re not sociable and don’t try to press against our boundaries. But we can absolutely rely on each other, and I suspect that will hold even if circumstances get really difficult.

        • Jarek June 6, 2023 at 4:34 pm #

          Almost no one gets that. You are truly blessed.

    • Q. Shtik June 6, 2023 at 2:11 pm #

      When I first started commenting at CFN I was actually hoping to find a community – SSL


      What I recall about your comments when you first arrived at CFN (and correct me if I’m wrong) was that you were a relatively young divorced female with one or two kids.

      After that I don’t recall your ever mentioning that kid or those kids and that strikes me as odd.

      I look forward to a comment from you that contains info on a more personal level like how do you support yourself? do your kid(s) attend public school? etc.

    • elysianfield June 6, 2023 at 11:00 pm #

      Yes. Mormons. Seek them out.

      • stelmosfire June 7, 2023 at 8:11 am #

        Mormon’s in BRH neck of the woods have built a new fortress/church. Solid granite fireproof construction, narrow windows with a parapet wall running completely around the roof, 360 degree open field of fire around the building and surrounded with a couple layers of fencing to boot. Interviewee says it is built to be here for centuries and is indestructible. Place must have cost a fortune. Probably deep basement and loaded with preps.


        • BackRowHeckler June 7, 2023 at 11:11 am #

          Not to mention the rifle slits in the steeple. Only they don’t call it a steeple. People around town thought it was a church, but wondered why they never see any worshippers at Sunday Service. Well, they don’t hold Sunday Service in this ‘Church’, or on any other day either, mostly because it’s not a church, it’s a redoubt.

        • elysianfield June 7, 2023 at 4:41 pm #

          Yes, they are right-thinking people…if you discount the pajamas and the Book of Mormon.

    • Anthea June 7, 2023 at 8:49 am #

      @ SoftStarLight:

      I think the thing to do, if possible, is to move to a conservative rural area and start making social connections. The easiest way to make social connections is to join a conservative rural church. It’s not enough to just start going to church there; you’d need to volunteer to help out in the kitchen for the big feeds, bring a covered dish, join the altar society, teach vacation Bible school, and things like that.

      For the most part, these small communities are not “organized” to “ride out the storm” (though there have been some attempts around here to form a militia). They are just well positioned, with many farmers and ranchers and people who own productive small acreages. They have relationships of trust with each other. But you see this even in very poor rural areas. People help each other. Being active in a church speeds acceptance, which can otherwise take years.

    • Blackbird June 7, 2023 at 2:35 pm #

      When I moved back to Michigan – after having escaped it 21 years earlier – I too had hopes of finding a community to ride out the approaching storm. What I found are a lot of angry and discontented people who share – to some extent – my vision of the future, but almost none who are doing anything about it. The only one I’ve met who is doing any kind of serious preparation seems to see himself as a nascent warlord who will dominate the coming dystopia.

      The only community I’ve identified are the Amish – and to some extent their caught-between-worlds brethren, the Mennonites. Not being one of them, and unwilling to convert or pretend to convert, I obviously can’t become a part of that community – although if I were a bit more sociopathic, I could see myself as a religious demagogue…

      Having realized my mistake in attempting to put down roots, my plan is now to ride out the coming storm at-sea. Hopefully the present clusterfuck stays cobbled together long enough for me to collect Social Security – I doubt it will, the Hildebeast will end Social Security with a stroke of her magic wand just as my clock is about to hit 62.

      I no longer expect to survive what’s coming. The coming collapse is less organic and more managed than I had originally expected. At this point, I just want to die in a warm place. I’ve heard that drowning is actually quite pleasant. I’ve come close a few times, but never found that pleasant part. Pirates will probably get me first anyway.

      • Rulo Deschamps June 7, 2023 at 6:52 pm #


        nobody gets out alive, after all… so cheer up.

        There’s no community. There’s tribes that gel together by their cultural consumption. “Oh, I watch that show too” – but precious few that have chucked the TV and their cultural consumption comes in the form of old books, for example.

        I think of death by drowning often, too…

      • MaryQueen June 7, 2023 at 8:21 pm #

        I’ve also stopped even thinking about trying to survive.

        What’s the point? So you can live in a dystopian hell? Society is already close to perfect hell as it is.

        • Anthea June 7, 2023 at 9:43 pm #

          @ MaryQueen:

          You never know how things will work out. Too many variables. I doubt if I have more than ten years left–probably less. I might spend some my remaining time reloading the magazine on the AR or sheltering in the basement while eating from a tuna can. Or maybe I’ll spend a lot of time canning tomatoes. Or maybe we’ll all flee to the deep forests of the Ozark mountains and live in a cave. Or maybe they’ll put me in jail or in an internment camp.

          Things could be lousy or they could be a bracing kind of challenge. Best-case scenario: Things continue on in the same boring rut (which is not boring at all), only with less money. Maybe a LOT less money. But I’ve skated on thin ice before.

          Hopefully I don’t wind up holding a fistful of radishes aloft, like Scarlett O’Hara, and swearing, “As God as my witness, I’ll never go hungry again–nor none of my folks, either.” It would also be a shame if I had to shoot a Yankee.

      • Anthea June 7, 2023 at 8:31 pm #

        @ Blackbird:

        I don’t think prepping is something you talk about. Among rural people, canning and freezing a lot of food is just a given. People talk about their gardens on Facebook–or the deer their grandson shot, or their heirloom pigs that are so tasty. Or they might talk about stocking up on staples at the Amish store or buying produce to, in bulk, at the produce auction. Back when we had a local garden club, one of the ladies mentioned canning about 200 quarts of tomatoes. Food preps are just normal country life, for those who can do it.

        I have occasionally had conversations with people about our plans, if things go sideways. We are fairly far from the city, but one friend mentioned that her family owned property in a more remote area, and they would move there if things got out of hand. We also touched on possible violence and the imprtance of having local people take control of military installations and police forces, along with their “stuff.” That would be if we faced violence from the federal government or others. (There are several possibilities.)

        People have thought about this stuff. As I mentioned in an earlier comment, there has been some effort to organize a militia in this area. I think just about everyone, except for some townfolk, is well armed. You have to be in the country, if only to be able to hunt and shoot varmints–plus there has been some crime and suspicious activity. Any of the ladies who are home alone (or with kids) during the day while their husbands are at work probably has her choice of several defensive weapons.

        Now, no one talks about this (of course), but I’ll bet there are many, many rural people who have a little stash of gold and silver. Personally, I would never ask. It’s just sensible.

        As far as finding a community and being accepted, this will normally take quite a few years. When I first moved to the country about 22 years ago, it took about ten years for me to feel accepted. You have to prove yourself. As I mentioned above, you can hurry this process along by being active in a church, which is basically a way of proving yourself, by showing a willingness to give of your time, money, and energy to your community. and get to know like-minded people.

        When you come right down to it, this is what prepping is.

  51. The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 12:03 pm #

    Global Ecovillage Network


    “The Global Ecovillage Network (GEN) is a global association of people and communities (ecovillages) dedicated to living “sustainable plus” lives by restoring the land and adding more to the environment than is taken. Network members share ideas and information, transfer technologies and develop cultural and educational exchanges.”


    Transition town


    “The terms transition town, transition initiative and transition model refer to grassroot community projects that aim to increase self-sufficiency to reduce the potential effects of peak oil, climate destruction, and economic instability through renewed localization strategies, especially around food production and energy usage. In 2006, the founding of Transition Town Totnes in the United Kingdom became an inspiration for other groups to form. The Transition Network charity was founded in early 2007, to support these projects. A number of the groups are officially registered with the Transition Network. Transition initiatives have been started in locations around the world, with many located in the United Kingdom and others in Europe, North America and Australia.[2][5] While the aims remain the same, Transition initiatives’ solutions are specific depending on the characteristics of the local area”

  52. Q. Shtik June 6, 2023 at 1:52 pm #


    Do you pronounce Zazelle as you would dazzle, with the accent on the first syllable?

    • GreenAlba June 6, 2023 at 2:29 pm #

      Q, would you pronounce ‘Giselle’ as ‘Guizzle’?

      • Q. Shtik June 6, 2023 at 2:39 pm #

        Not sure I understand your question, GA. Are you implying Zazelle is pronounced with the accent on the second syllable? Actually that is how I have been pronouncing it in my head. But then the word dazzle popped into my head.

        • Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 5:11 pm #

          This has ben another episode of Q, Master of Language.

      • benr June 6, 2023 at 8:32 pm #

        JIZZ ELL

    • Islander June 6, 2023 at 4:28 pm #

      I would pronounce it as


    • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 6:00 pm #

      It’s up to you but I pronounce it with the accent on the second syllable, ‘elle’. Sounds more elegant, like French of something.

      As a related aside, if I go outside and it’s windy and my hair gets wet and it’s a little long (needs a cut), it can get zazelly, with the accent in that case, instead, on the first syllable, ‘zaz’.

      And here’s a silly and kind of gay poem for that:

      My hair is flared
      It’s up in the air
      It’s like a prickly pear
      So please don’t stare

      • Q. Shtik June 7, 2023 at 12:14 pm #

        I pronounce it with the accent on the second syllable, ‘elle’ – Zaz


        Well then my first inclination was correct.

    • MaryQueen June 6, 2023 at 10:46 pm #

      I thought it should be pronounced like “gazelle” – closest word to it.

    • Blackbird June 7, 2023 at 2:38 pm #

      When I read “Zazelle” it rhymes with gazelle.

      You’re more grammar and less pronunciation and semantics, aren’t you ‘Stick?

      • Q. Shtik June 7, 2023 at 3:08 pm #

        Actually, Blackbird, as I’ve explained many times before, I know next to nothing about grammar. I just know what sounds right because I pay close attention to SAE (Standard American English).

        I’m more into pronunciation, spelling, and usage. Yesterday someone used the phrase ‘cut and dry.’ I knew from long experience that ‘dry’ should be ‘dried’ so I pointed it out. I also confirmed via google that the words comprising the phrase ‘cut and dried’ are not separated by hyphens.

        Regarding punctuation: I punctuate in a manner I feel will best convey what I’m trying to get across.

        • MaryQueen June 7, 2023 at 8:24 pm #

          So, why would you expect other people to somehow have the same made-up rules in their heads as you do? Correcting people according to your version of grammar, pronunciation and punctuation is ridiculous.

          • Q. Shtik June 8, 2023 at 12:02 am #

            MQ, do you believe the errors/corrections I point out are themselves more often incorrect than correct? If so, in the future please point out my incorrect corrections.

            Further, if you spot an error in my writing that has nothing to do with me correcting someone, by all means point out my error. But please don’t say I have no right to point out errors if my own writing is imperfect.

        • Q. Shtik June 8, 2023 at 10:35 am #

          I’m more into pronunciation, – Q.


          If you’re wondering why I raised the question concerning the pronunciation of Zazelle, I recommend you read “How to win friends and influence people” by Dale Carnegie, especially the part about the importance of remembering people’s names and how to pronounce them.

  53. Q. Shtik June 6, 2023 at 2:33 pm #

    Last night around 7 pm Peter came downstairs for dinner. Between the second and first floor he fell and landed on his nearly buttockless ass. I have often predicted this would happen eventually. Miraculously he didn’t break anything like a hip bone.

    Peter’s mother (my m-i-l) fell on these very steps in October 2013 and broke her hip. This set her on the way to her death on April 30, 2014.

    I have always believed the same fate was in store for Peter.

    • The Man They Call Zazelle June 6, 2023 at 6:02 pm #

      My best to Peter.

    • Disaffected June 6, 2023 at 8:23 pm #

      Broken hips are the bane of geezers’ existence. If Peter keeps using those stairs you very likely won’t have to wait long for the big event, Q. He got lucky this time. By hook or by crook, you need to get him institutionalized. You’re too old yourself to have to put up with him.

      I rented in an old folks with money condo complex when I first came up here for a few years. We lost many of the geezers that very way. One in particular went out to vote for Obama in 2008, slipped on ice, and was dead in a week. 90 some odds years old, really good old dude, but that was that.

      • Q. Shtik June 7, 2023 at 12:53 pm #

        you need to get him institutionalized. – Disaff


        We have made great progress on ^this^ front. All info requested by the Medicaid office has been supplied. We now await that office’s examination of the info and then a face to face meeting at which I expect Ms. Pacheco to ask “what the fuck is this $5,000 cash withdrawal Peter made all about?” And our answer will be “that’s exactly what WE were wondering.” It would be fruitless to ask Peter about the detail in his bank statements spanning a period of 4 years. His answer would be “I have no idea.” He can’t even remember what he had for breakfast this morning for Christ’s sake.

        If we can get Peter approved for Medicaid we can then get him in a nursing home.

        I have personally examined every entry in 81 monthly bank statements spanning 4 different bank accounts and the experience has been beyond bizarre.

        • Beryl of Oyl June 7, 2023 at 2:33 pm #

          Good luck with all that.

        • Rulo Deschamps June 7, 2023 at 6:54 pm #

          He should do himself and the world a favor and kill himself.

  54. jim June 6, 2023 at 2:39 pm #

    Over the years JHK has argued quite persuasively:

    “…the collapse of the USA continues apace. You can debate whether it is good or bad but above all it is the thing.”

    I feel this way myself maybe 50% of the time. However sometimes I think the following:

    Has JHK often been overly optimistic about individuals (Barr, Durham,Trump,) ) or institutions/organizations (Department of Justice, House Congressional committees) having the tools of leverage and authenticity to stop our collapse?

    Has JHK somehow underestimated the strength and options of key networks of power (intelligence community digital surveillance, or the kind of apparent built-in flexibility of our particular brand of capitalism to dramatically innovate when necessary (Great recession bailouts Treasury market and covid stabilization moves).

    If the U.S. loses in Ukraine, if Western Europe suffers greater political/economic instability/ Biden resigns and degeneracy accelerates, are the key institutional networks of U.S. power sufficiently damaged or could they continue to engage in different types of consolidation (branding and then moving against counterterrorist resisters ) and thereby significantly delay, possibly reverse and finally overcome any trajectory of collapse?

    Do we have an obligation to go deeper into the institutional power weeds rather than optimistically waiting for collapse?

    • SoftStarLight June 6, 2023 at 6:27 pm #

      What a nightmare scenario. I have not decided if am optimist about a collapse generally but I am very hopeful for a collapse of the US empire.

    • Disaffected June 6, 2023 at 8:50 pm #

      Short answer: NO.

      • Disaffected June 6, 2023 at 9:16 pm #

        Nor should we even want the current gang of thieves and their crony networks to recover. Nothing whatsoever would change. The entire global apparatus is terminally corrupted and can only be cleansed by a complete reset of a different type. And it must involve public trials, executions, and restitutions in the hope that it never happens again. And a totally different mindset among the survivors as well, of course.

  55. Beryl of Oyl June 6, 2023 at 3:23 pm #

    Just stopping in to do my good deed for the day.


    RFK recently went on a podcast with Mike Tyson where he explained that the CIA killed his father when he was running for President in 1968

    Youtube just deleted this entire interview off its platform

    You know what to do now with this clip


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    • Islander June 6, 2023 at 4:26 pm #

      Reclaim the Net has a story on this.
      I think the vid was done in 2020.


      • Beryl of Oyl June 7, 2023 at 9:49 am #

        Thanks. Yes, “recently” is the wrong word.

        Look who we have to rely on to do the media’s job. Comedians and retired boxers.

        • Q. Shtik June 7, 2023 at 2:11 pm #

          Look who we have to rely on to do the media’s job. Comedians and retired boxers. – BofO


          I viewed that link yesterday and RFK Jr was very convincing about the CIA having killed his father. However, I felt sorry for him due to his off-putting speaking impediment. I’m sure it will be a detriment to his candidacy for President.

          • Beryl of Oyl June 7, 2023 at 2:35 pm #

            I have read that he has had a surgical procedure which has improved his speaking ability.

    • Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 5:10 pm #

      RFK, Jr., has mentioned this a few times, of late.

      These days it seems to go by almost unnoticed to the normies, as “conspiracy theory” after “conspiracy theory” turns out to be true.

      Will he eventually address the gaping wound in the national psyche that is 9/11?

      • Beryl of Oyl June 7, 2023 at 10:17 am #

        RFK has come around somewhat on the 2A issue. That is a big one for me.

        “2A: Claims he will not take anyone’s guns because SCOTUS already said that’s unconstitutional. Says the proliferation of firearms allows violence, but it won’t be addressed if you take guns without focusing on the central problem: psychiatric health and drugs”


        I don’t know if Bobby used the word “central” as I did not listen, but the central problem is central as in CIA and also that other three letter agency that starts with an F.

        The I in FBI is key, because all they do is investigate and somehow never moves beyond that point to become “evidence” which makes them a spy agency not a law enforcement agency.

        That was AG Barr’s stellar achievement in the Trump administration. He brought the Mueller investigation to a close. They decide if and when they will call a halt to their investigations; and most of the time their decision is “never”.

        I would love to see RFK Jr sit down for a talk with Julie Kelly and learn some things he probably doesn’t want to know about the January 6 “insurrection”.

        • Jarek June 7, 2023 at 12:42 pm #

          He’s a closer. He also closed the Epstein investigation. Nothing to see. Tucker did a masterful takedown of his supposed investigation.

          Barr watched “all” of the footage of the camera outside the cellblock. Nothing to see. The cameras inside weren’t working or something and that’s fine. Nothing strange there.

  56. Mick June 6, 2023 at 3:43 pm #

    Just had a random “Steve Wright” style thought:

    Since Pride Month is 30 days long, and Juneteenth is only one day in the middle of Pride Month, thus overshadowed….is this inherently racist?

    • Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 5:28 pm #

      This is actually an interesting question and would spark hours of nonsensical debate among the Woke.

      You should pose this question on a more appropriate forum and grab the popcorn.

      • Mick June 6, 2023 at 8:58 pm #

        Perhaps the Young Turks live chat?

        • MaryQueen June 6, 2023 at 10:43 pm #


    • malthuss June 6, 2023 at 6:17 pm #

      28 days of black month–feb

      • Mick June 6, 2023 at 9:04 pm #

        Let’s see……30 Woke Pride days in June. One day for Juneteenth in June.

        28 Days for Black History in Feb. So that equals 29 total days for blacks and 30 days for the gender (mostly white) confused.

        Better, but an extra day will have to found for the blacks for balance.

        Oh wait!! MLK Day in January.

        Never mind. Lol…

        (You know, this could qualify for an intelligent college classroom debate in today’s edjookashunal instatooshuns of higher learning)

    • MaryQueen June 6, 2023 at 10:42 pm #

      Hahaha! I love it.

      This would bend the minds of the poor wokies.

  57. malthuss June 6, 2023 at 4:05 pm #

    “The most violent element in society is commies.”
    — not Emma Goldman

    fixed that.

  58. Islander June 6, 2023 at 4:24 pm #

    Well, here is one thing that is trying damed hard to be “next”:

    From Reclaim the Net.

    “WHO Plots To Use EU Vaccine Passport Tech To Form Global Digital Health Certificates
    The World Health Organization (WHO) announced it will adopt the European Union’s digital Covid vaccine passport framework to create a global network of digital health certificates. What was long maligned as a conspiracy theory is coming to pass. The new initiative will be called the Global Digital Health Certification Network.

    Read about the dangers of vaccine passports and how they kill civil liberties here.

    The WHO said it will “take up the European Union (EU) system of digital COVID-19 certification to establish a global system that will help facilitate global mobility and protect citizens across the world from on-going and future health threats.”

    The EU’s Covid vaccine certificate was enforced in July 2021 and issued to over 2.3 billion people.

    In a statement, WHO’s Director-General Dr. Tedros Ghebreyesus said that “building on the EU’s highly successful digital certification network, WHO aims to offer all WHO Member States access to an open-source digital health tool.”

    “New digital health products in development aim to help people everywhere receive quality health services quickly and more effectively,” he added.

    The European Commissioner for Health and Food Safety, Stella Kyriakides said: “Today is a new chapter in global cooperation on digital health. It will help to place WHO at the center of our global health architecture.”

    The WHO’s new initiative comes at a time when the use of vaccine passports has reduced and after the global public health organization said that Covid was no longer a public health emergency.

    Critics of vaccine passports argue that they could be used to discriminate and deny people access to public services. Others view them as an invasion of privacy by equipping governments with the power to spy on people’s health, as well as create a checkpoint society.

    The idea of a global vaccine passport was criticized by Australian senator Alex Antic, who argued that it was “just another conspiracy theory coming true.”

    • Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 5:08 pm #

      As discussed over two years ago.

      Granted there were only a handful of us discussing it.

      We must be geniuses.

    • GreenAlba June 6, 2023 at 5:17 pm #

      “[…] building on the EU’s highly successful digital certification network […]”

      A digital certification network that led to the people most likely to get covid (the multi-jabbed) and pass it on to other people being the ones who were entitled to travel, while the people least likely to get covid and pass it on – those who’d already had it but weren’t vaxxed – weren’t allowed to travel (or, in some places, to do lots of other things, like shopping). They clearly think no-one has noticed. Mind you, so many haven’t it’s heart-breaking.

      • Night Owl June 6, 2023 at 5:40 pm #

        I remain unclear about how one even gets “Covid.” They need to explain that, too.

        What do they test for? Have they proven it exists?

        Why no, they have not.

        • Disaffected June 6, 2023 at 8:13 pm #

          That’s the beauty of viruses and the like. They’re virtually “proof proof.” It all relies on people’s trust in authority and fear in unwarranted assertions. “Look, over there! There’s a killer bug among us!”

          • GreenAlba June 7, 2023 at 6:25 am #

            My position is anything but trust in authority, which should be plain at this point – in fact the opposite is true. I’m open minded on the virus question – primarily due to lack of expertise and, so far, lack of reading on the matter. I’ve bought the recent book by the chap who’s name I forget, who claims (along with this wife) there aren’t any. I just have so many ‘covid books’, Ukraine books (well, just one short one of those), revisions-of-everything-we-think-we-know-about-history books etc. that it’s going to take me an age to get through them all. if I llve that long. So, the existence or otherwise of viruses is going to have to wait.

            Currently. on the no-viruses side, I know of the author of the book mentioned above, plus another name or two, and Mike Yeadon (currently still my most favoured and trustworthy ‘truthteller’), who has been persuaded by that author. On the pro-virus side, I currently read and listen to Jessica Rose, Tess Lawrie, Meryl Nass, Peter McCullough, Byram Bridle, Ryan Cole, and a host of others in the ‘truthtelling’ doctor/scientist group who are not at all convinced by the no-viruses argument.

            So, the only honest thing, from my point of view, is to sit it out. It’s not, to me, the most important argument to be had, especially as, even if it were true, even fewer people are going to be persuaded of it than are persuaded there’s any funny businesses going on at all.

            In my view, the important things are resisting digital ID and the removal of cash, resisting the next ‘pandemic’ and associated countermeasures and establishing in more people’s minds the harms done by the current clotshots. I’ll worry about the virus/no-virus question when I have time to look into it properly, which might be when I’m sitting in an internment camp, although I doubt they’ll allow unapproved books in there for the short time any of us are accommodated there.

          • GreenAlba June 7, 2023 at 7:35 am #

            *Funny business* not businesses. Although I’m sure there are plenty of funny businesses too …

          • Jarek June 7, 2023 at 12:57 pm #

            Some years ago, Denmark’s population was 5% Muslim and they used 40% of social welfare budget.

            If all other things remained the same, how much of social welfare budge would they be using once their population reached 10%?

            Alba, I asked you this before but you didn’t answer. So I’ll open it up the group at this point. Maybe one of t