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The debate quickly beat a path to identity politics, which make up the actual substance of PC, itself only a method of conveying the substance. PC acts as a filter for sifting out thought that doesn’t conform to orthodox ideology, and for punishing those who dare to express the filtered-out ideas. So, PC only allows for a narrow range of expressed opinion on identity politics. PC is literally thought-policing. It’s hard to imagine anyone being in favor of that, which is exactly why PC behavior is so odious to those of us who value free speech.

The orthodox view in identity politics these days is that “white male cis-heterosexual patriarchal privilege” is responsible for the discontents of women and “people-of-color” — a squishy, mischievous category which obviously doesn’t count Chinese grad students at Harvard or the Asian-Indians in the Silicon Valley C-suites — and demands reparations of one kind or another.

Mr. Peterson laid it out nicely: identity politics assigns everyone to ethnic, racial, and sexual groups, and all the human relations among them amount to never-ending battles for political power. Nothing else matters. Individuals especially don’t matter, only the group. And no group has abused its power more than European white men.

This animating idea comes out of the mid-20th century “post-structural critical theorists” Jacques Derrida and Michel Foucault, whose Marxian views emerged conveniently at a time when women and non-white people were vying for departmental chairs in the college humanities and social science programs, and thus have two generations been indoctrinated.

Well, if human relations are solely about power, than exercising power over others is all that matters. Hence, the key to identity politics: it’s all about coercion, making others do your will by threat of force and force itself. These days, the main threat is depriving heretics and apostates of their livelihood. That’s what happened to Brett Weinstein at Evergreen U in Washington State last year, and to Jordan Peterson himself at the U of Toronto, when he objected loudly and publicly to a new Canadian federal law that sought to punish citizens who refused to use the new menu of personal pronouns for the rapidly multiplying new gender categories (e.g. ze, zir, they, xem, nem, hir, nir….)

Both Weinstein and Peterson refused to be coerced and found themselves inadvertently leading a movement against the pervasive, creeping coercion of our time — which has now spread from the campuses into corporate life, with the HR departments working overtime to enforce thought among employees, because company profits are at stake (e.g. Starbucks day-off for “diversity and inclusion training”).

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509 Responses to “What It’s All About: Coercion”

  1. peakfuture June 18, 2018 at 10:09 am #

    Will have to check it out.

    What do you think about Ben Shapiro? He seems to be on the same wavelength:


    Are there any folks on the left that are making rational arguments on these points, without the name calling? Why weren’t these “post-structural critical theorists” ridiculed from day one?

    Off the top of my head, one possible reason is that in the sixties, in the era of (apparently) limitless energy and ‘anything is possible’, these ideas were allowed to flourish. Who cared if they were right or wrong; they were just ‘ideas’, and they had no (apparently) adverse effects. Of course, when resources get tight, you can’t screw around, so ideas that cause bad resource management/non-optimal decisions to be made start to be problematic.

    • Elrond Hubbard June 18, 2018 at 11:24 am #

      peakfuture: “Are there any folks on the left that are making rational arguments on these points, without the name calling?”



      Since she’s also a trans woman with a philosophy degree, this will be a useful filter to find out who can look past the trappings and deal with her genuine arguments.

      peakfuture: “Of course, when resources get tight, you can’t screw around.”

      That, while it mostly goes unspoken, is one of the more important motivators behind both JHK and at least a substantial minority of posters around here, if not an actual majority. On the one hand, JHK and others view the prospect of collapse with apprehension. On the other, they’re looking forward with tingly anticipation to the opportunity of imposing lifeboat rules, whereby they can silence all the people who annoy them with their petty demands. JHK himself has written this more or less explicitly, though I’d have to comb through his old posts to find the reference.

      After all, you should never let a good crisis go to waste. Coercion is, indeed, what it’s all about.

      • Exscotticus June 18, 2018 at 12:09 pm #


        No naming calling, eh? I got as far as her (he? it?) equating conservative views (which now includes classical liberalism) with Nazism. Nice try.

        I find it amusing that of all the people you could come up with, you chose a “trans woman with a philosophy degree”. As if that somehow makes her uniquely qualified to discuss identity politics.

        Now it’s my turn to make a suggestion: https://quillette.com/2018/06/05/high-price-stale-grievances/

        • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 2:05 pm #

          In trying to execute a judo throw, Elrond throws himself. He is an eternal White Belt.

        • Elrond Hubbard June 18, 2018 at 2:53 pm #

          Did a YouTube video contain snark and/or opinion that you took exception to? Oh dear, someone alert the authorities. peakfuture asked for arguments, so I pointed toward some — they’re there, if you listen. If you want argument without opinion, on the other hand, the Internet is just the wrong place to look.

          As for “uniquely qualified”, well — yes, duh. She has little choice but to discuss identity politics, since she’s bearing the brunt of it like very few people ever have to.

          • Exscotticus June 18, 2018 at 5:30 pm #

            >>> She has little choice but to discuss identity politics

            You see that attitude is exactly the problem. Most of us get by just fine without wearing our race or gender or sexuality on our sleeves and making the entire world about our skin color or genitalia.

            Dear reader, are you a freak? So what. Nobody cares. Get over yourself.

          • babbat June 19, 2018 at 3:58 am #

            If anyone cared to listen to the prophet of peak. You’d know : that trans Jezebels just don’t cut the mustard . Trans gender = Trans fatty acids it’s built to burn. Who the helll is gonna catch the last train when all the freeways have conquered the landscape. ” I mean godarn we got to build dem railroads again! not worry about Klepto currency and trans fatty idiots.
            My dear amigo”s we are all in the latent death throes of Sodom and Gomorrah . And all they coerce us to do is contemplates Sodomites! with fake vaginas.

          • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 6:58 am #

            “My dear amigo”s (sic) we are all in the latent death throes of Sodom and Gomorrah . And all they coerce us to do is contemplates Sodomites! with fake vaginas.”

            They’re 0.3% of your population. That’s not even one half of one percent. To put it in context, it’s not quite a third of the number of psychopaths in your population. I know who I’d be worried about.

            So unless you’re bizarrely fixated on them, I’m sure you could find other annoying people to take your attention from them. Unless you don’t want your attention taken from them, of course. Or unless ‘they’ are ‘coercing’ you by tying you to a chair, prising your eyelids open and adding eye drops, like in Clockwork Orange.

            I pay them absolutely no mind. Live and let live. I met one middle-aged one on the top of a nearby hill, who gave us lots of interesting information about the prehistory of the area but didn’t mention anything about prehistoric or current sexual practices at all (and who looked, with her tweed skirt and knobbly knees, like a spinster geography teacher from the 1950s). And I once saw one ordering cake in a cafe in Lisbon.

            Neither of these incidents shook the foundations of my otherwise unremarkable world. Life went on. We walked back down the hill and left the cafe for the delightful pavements of Lisbon, respectively.

            That’s it, and I’ve been around a long time. Perhaps you could just buy some box sets and binge watch Anne of Green Gables or The Waltons to take your mind of it all and reset your outrage button.

            It’s just as well you’ll never be time-transported to Victorian London after dark. Your outrage button would explode. Or maybe it wouldn’t. Maybe it copes fine with destitute women with absolutely no economic options having sex with wealthy men who already have nice wives and families, for money, as long as their vaginas are real. Exploited, as ever it was with the lower orders, but real.

            But I’d be willing to bet that if you did have anything to say about it, it would be the poor sinning women who’d get the flak before the wealthy married men. My outrage button’s past even reacting to that one.

          • babbat June 19, 2018 at 8:24 am #

            Green Alba , I thought the implications of hysteria were manifold . I’m simply implying that the coercion of unreality is kind of funny.The human being can literally conjure many stories within stories . I’m asking why we seem so hung up on this narrative?

          • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 8:46 am #

            Then I’m questioning along with you, babbat (I think I read your post rather quickly and in too close proximity to PF’s!).

            I don’t understand the obsession. At insecure times in history, you get more ‘outliers’ doing outlying things. It usually settles down again.

            With the transgender thing, it’s more complicated – we don’t know if there’s an environmental component too, given we live in a chemical soup and a world of plastic that’s already having effects like lowering men’s sperm counts. The water supplies are full of residual oestrogens, steroids and a host of other things for the reasons we know (and before Janos pipes up, men have every bit as much responsibility for the use of the contraceptive pill as women).

            It’s just not one of the things I’m as worried about as the fact that we’re running out of resources (and war-free countries), my principal worries being oil and water (not locally, obviously).

            I always recall Christabel Bielenberg, English wife of German lawyer Peter Bielenberg, and member, with him, of the German anti-Nazi resistance, saying about marriages at the time, that people had something important to do that transcended the petty issues they might otherwise have had about their own personal lives, so they just ‘got on’.

            I feel the same about the transgender issue and other related issues – when push comes to shove people just won’t have the leisure to worry over much about such things, either in their own lives or other people’s.

            There certainly won’t be hospitals with gender reassignment surgical departments or the hormone treatments that such people need in perpetuity. So people will just have to get through their lives however they can, happy or unhappy, which sums up the human condition for most of our history.

          • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 8:54 am #

            “There certainly won’t be hospitals with gender reassignment surgical departments…”

            The smart money may be on poppies and medicinal cannabis (nod to Akmofo). For every cancer operation – or even hip operation – we won’t be able to provide, we’ll need infinitely more help with the relief of suffering.

            Palliative care is a noble calling. It will become more in demand – paid or unpaid.

          • Exscotticus June 19, 2018 at 10:16 am #

            >>> They’re 0.3% of your population. That’s not even one half of one percent.


            Exactly. And yet this superminority under liberals managed to temporarily change bathroom culture and etiquette in the USA at the expense of the 99.7% who were clearly not comfortable with people choosing their gendered bathrooms based on abstract feelings and emotions.

            The problem with minorities is that they want to make everything about their minority-ness. They want to throw it in your face 24/7/365 and make you acknowledge it, immerse yourself in it, and structure your entire world around it. Really—no one cares. We have our own lives to live.

          • elysianfield June 19, 2018 at 11:27 am #

            “with fake vaginas.””

            Nature’s birth control….~ D. Tosh

      • PeteAtomic June 18, 2018 at 11:21 pm #

        “That, while it mostly goes unspoken, is one of the more important motivators behind both JHK and at least a substantial minority of posters around here, if not an actual majority. On the one hand, JHK and others view the prospect of collapse with apprehension. On the other, they’re looking forward with tingly anticipation to the opportunity of imposing lifeboat rules, whereby they can silence all the people who annoy them with their petty demands. JHK himself has written this more or less explicitly, though I’d have to comb through his old posts to find the reference.”

        I don’t believe anybody on this forum who wants the destruction of civilization. I have never read anybody on this forum advocating for the all the weak of society to die. The idea that we as sovereign individuals consent to government or authority, is in threat– freedom of speech and free idea the center of that.

        • Walter B June 19, 2018 at 7:56 am #

          I know that I have said this before Pete, but Jim and all of the prophets of the past are and were not coaxing on destruction, rather they warn the herd that bad behavior always leads to bad results. Conservation, moderation and intelligent planning are what is always called for to a mob that has been manipulated into waste, excess and consumption. If anybody really wants destruction it would be those that fail to heed the good advice of those who can see a little further ahead than their next excess. Big difference at least IMHO.

        • ozone June 20, 2018 at 8:42 am #

          Pete A.,
          Unless they keep themselves *very* well-hidden, tyrants always make themselves large targets for the next iteration of tyrants. As such, I’m more interested in the blowback from the suppression of anyone who feels part of a “large” group. Current kerfuffles and teacup tempests only raise the profile of those who *will* be suppressed and persecuted in future. Who’s the cause of all our troubles (and keep us, The Righteous and Correct, from the levers of power and wealth)? Oh, that’s right……the handy THEM.

          Cornpone Theocratic Nazism anyone? That’s my outlook for the last tyranny before social collapse… which will follow this pretension of excessive care for the tiny minorities. A distractive design, to be sure. (Those in charge will have to create a new lintel atop the pillars of the Supreme Court: “Abandon Hope All Ye Who Enter Here, For God Hath Made the Righteous Omniscient”)

          • Tate June 20, 2018 at 12:53 pm #

            A black man has been threatened & abused by his white neighbors.


            Richard Brookshire was up late at night in his north Manhattan apartment talking on the phone with a colleague. His downstairs white neighbors seemed intimidated by the “noise” he was generating & taped a provocative letter to his door. The note read:

            “It is extremely rude and inconsiderate to scream and stomp around your apartment until almost 2 a.m.,” the letter said. “A complaint has been submitted to the management. Next time this will go straight to the police. Please learn your manners.”

            On his way to work the next day, Richard couldn’t stop seething over this insufferable assault to his dignity & rights. He responded with a letter, reading in part:

            “To The Passive Aggressive Neighbor & His Wife.”

            “Re: I’m Finna Tell You What you Not Gon’ Do,”

            I, the tenant of apartment 6J, having secured this rental property through earnings I made and credit I earned, have no inherent or expressly stated obligation to accommodate your hypersensitivities or those of your spouse, when occupying my home.

            As one of the only tenants of color occupying this building at full market rate, I find it personally abhorrent that you’d levy the threat of involving the authorities for an insignificant infraction such as the one you noted in your poorly written and ill-thought-out correspondence.

            As a Black man, I take these overt actions as a direct threat to my physical and psychological well-being and as an act of violence upon me.

            Your #VeryBlack Neighbor”

            He snapped a picture of the note & posted it on Facebook, where it received thousands of Likes.

            His downstairs neighbor, who asked not to have his name revealed for this story, naturally saw the error of his ways & responded thusly:

            David O. said he and his wife just wanted to sleep. They didn’t know Brookshire was black until the post went viral. He said his upstairs neighbor was cursing and yelling, and it sounded like he was arguing.

            Still, David O. said, he understood how the note he penned while sleepy and angry could come across as aggressive.

            “I know this was probably dictated by the tone of my note, but please do not perceive me as just another narrow-minded white p—- scared of anything outside of his little white world,” he wrote back to Brookshire. “I have nothing in common with such people, and I would like to emphasize it once (again) that my note yesterday, rude as it was, was nothing more than a response to a late-night disturbance.”

          • ozone June 20, 2018 at 6:42 pm #

            It would appear you don’t cotton to them niggers that don’t show proper deference to their white betters. Anything else you’d like to share today?

          • Tate June 20, 2018 at 7:11 pm #

            Um, yeah, there is one thing,

            thanks for not calling me ‘Tater.’

  2. pequiste June 18, 2018 at 10:13 am #

    Even more than coercion which is the business of Government after all; the whole process is geared, as we all know, to changing the very definition of what “things” mean; in an absolute Orwellian sense.


    Doesn’t this mean Lord Mountbatten’s spouse will be Lady Mountbatten? A real sticky wicket that one.

    When foundational concepts have no established meaning then, as JHK always likes to remind us, “Anything goes and nothing matters.”


    At the rate we are accelerating into an A.I. moderated environment, wrong-thinking people will be happy to buy their own tickets for a visit with Mr. O’Brien in Room 101.

    • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 10:43 am #


    • hmuller June 18, 2018 at 11:03 am #

      There is a cultural war going on. Everywhere you look the evil tentacles of Globalism promote a morally degenerate agenda. I could list about 100 specific issues, but I think the readers here understand.

      • draupnir June 18, 2018 at 12:33 pm #

        Have you noticed all the maudlin sentimentality assigned to the plight of the children separated from their parents who have been arrested for illegally entering this country? I pointed out to somebody the other day that the children of citizens of this country who are arrested are routinely sent to foster care if there is no one to care for them, and nobody blinks an eye. She called me cold hearted and refused to debate the issue.

        • hineshammer June 18, 2018 at 5:12 pm #

          To be fair, entering the country illegally (first offense) is a misdemeanor. A woman who is arrested for shoplifting at Walmart, sans any other violation, probably will not have her child/children taken from her.

          • draupnir June 18, 2018 at 7:15 pm #

            Can they make bail? Can they pay their fine?

        • Farmer Joe June 18, 2018 at 10:01 pm #

          I’m surprised you didn’t get labeled a racist. It’s been my experience that facts don’t matter to liberals. If you have fact based intelligent and irrefutable reasons to disagree you are some kind of neo Nazi to them.

        • Ricechex June 21, 2018 at 1:17 am #

          I thought the same thing!!! Polinski Center in San Diego is where they house kids until they go into foster care. It is definitely no better than the air conditioned tents at the border. Its overcrowded and babies are lined up in cribs against the wall.
          (At least that is the way it used to be) Also, I am guessing that these kids actually have BETTER living conditions in the tent camps than they did in their home countries. At least they are safe.

          • Ricechex June 21, 2018 at 1:19 am #

            One more thing…..I am just waiting for the shoe to drop on this…..and the illegals will sue the government if their kids get sick, etc. I see attorneys lurking and ready for a suit.

      • Tate June 18, 2018 at 10:46 pm #

        Mail Reporter Infiltrates Bilderberg Summit

        For the first time in its 66-year history a journalist penetrated security to go undercover at the hotel

        2018 agenda items included Populism, where populist political parties threaten to withdraw from EU
        Conspiracy theories have surrounded Bilderberg for years, such as claims that it selects world leaders to impose a ‘New World Order’


        • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:08 am #

          WAR WAR WAR

    • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 2:37 pm #

      Why does Lord Mountabatten have to be male? Why couldn’t he have been Lady Mountbatten, doing everything glorious thing “he” did while dressed in long gown or sun dress with spaghetti straps?

      Your bigotry is on display and this is what the Left has sworn to combat come what may, even unto the death of all. A small price to pay in order for a man to be able to wear a sun dress while riding a charger.

    • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 5:09 am #

      “Doesn’t this mean Lord Mountbatten’s spouse will be Lady Mountbatten? A real sticky wicket that one.”

      Yes, really sticky, I’m sure. Now, call me insulated if you like, but I only know one married gay couple of my acquaintance and know *of* another couple. They’re all men, so they all go by ‘Mr’.

      But don’t let me stop you creating nonsense and controversy where there was none.

      I pay no attention to the Who’s Who of posh weddings, so it’s beyond me that people living in a republic with its own problems take the slightest interest.

      In ordinary life, we used to call people like you ‘stirrers’. So I’ll award you the Order of the Wooden Spoon. You’ll have noticed that the couple in question have chosen to keep their personal business as quiet as possible. Fat chance.

      Now, your president, for example, is such a fan of the sacredness of the institution of marriage that he’s on his third one and has cheated on each wife with the next one (just for starters). Maybe the Mountbattens or whatever they decide to call themselves will be better at it, so that they can show him a good example.

      • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 9:12 am #

        If they went back to being the Battenbergs, as they originally were before they Anglicised themselves, they could have their very own personalised square gay cake controversy. And the guests could fight over the pink bits.

  3. drdream June 18, 2018 at 10:22 am #

    So much of today’s post I’m finding echoed (or pre-affirmed) in Jonah Goldberg’s Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change from 2009 which makes the case that much of what we’re witnessing today was how maniacs like Hitler (and others) got started. Even the cover of the book is telling: a smily face with a toothbrush moustache.

    • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 10:46 am #

      Fascism was coming either way, but leave it to the idiot liberals to perfect the marketing plan and take it mainstream. Useful idiots indeed! Shoving it down our throats the conservative way is just so 20th century!

      • drdream June 18, 2018 at 10:55 am #

        So the more things change the more they stay the same in that the Left uses the same means as the right (shoving it down our throats). What’s bulls**t is the insistence that they’re different, or things are different this time because they really do have the moral high ground (honest, we mean it folks!) As for me, I’m keeping’ my powder dry because Fascism is coming, or is already here. Thx Ol’ Scratch.

        • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 11:14 am #

          Thanks back at you. Yes, “inverted totalitarianism,” all wrapped up in a yummy PC fascist coating is seemingly here to stay.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 2:41 pm #

      Well that’s just wrong but of course Goldberg wants to you to believe Fascism and National Socialism are “left” since he and his have taken control of the American Right. News flash: they aren’t confused. They have no real problem with the Left – as long as it’s theirs. Remember, these folks used to be Trotskyites before they made a strategic leap into being Republicans. They don’t “believe” things the way you do. They look for cognitive and political vehicles that advance their interests and then try to take them over and use them For Their Interests.

  4. BC_EE June 18, 2018 at 10:24 am #

    Melding Jim’s post today with Caitlin Johnstone’s about U.S. involvement in Syria the distilled product is the effect of too much misplaces sympathy.

    For reference, but not directly related to today’s topic:

    Analogy warning: Like complex carbohydrates (i.e. sugar) these are a necessary nutrition. Too much sugar and one most likely ends up with diabetes, obesity, etc. That’s where we are as a society.

    Sympathy as the necessary for the sugar societal body is being fed like a constant diet of Coke and Mountain Dew. The end result will be the same. Another way of saying what Jim did in his post, and Jordan et al.

    • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 11:03 am #

      Excellent link! Alas, the author is constrained by her relatively mainstream press obligations when confronting the monstrous evil of 9-11. Yes, TPTB should be called out for using to spread the manifestly insane Global War of Terror, but it’s about time that even the mainstream starts confronting the fact that 9-11 was itself an inside job from start, whose express purpose was to enable said manipulation. That would be the motherload of all prosecutions, and until it happens, the US government is basically operating under duress and possesses no lawful authority whatsoever.

      And by the way, neither carbs or sugar are necessary nutrition in the least, but that’s a subject for another day.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 2:49 pm #

        Without bread, the Cathedrals would never have been built. Meat alone will sustain life, but like any carnivore, you will spend much of your time in a torpor. Without refrigeration, grains got people thru the winters. If you don’t eat them, then you are reliant on meat alone – and that means hunter-gathering and very few people. I admit there’s something attractive about that.

        Jeremiah Johnson hated seeing good meat going to waste. So although raised a Christian in the South, he started sampling some of the human meat that was strewn so carelessly in the Old West, with him no slouch in the matter either. He found he had a taste for the liver and became known as the Liver Eater. Can you dig this, Scratch? I mean could you have made war against an entire Tribe of Indians (the Crow) and come out even? One Brave after another went out to become a hero by taking him down. Few of those that found him ever came back to tell the tale. What would you have done if you were him?

    • Luhrenloup June 18, 2018 at 11:28 am #

      Here’s another Johnstone piece worth reading:


      • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 12:26 pm #

        I’m going to have to keep an eye out for her stuff from now on. She really nails it here.

    • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:12 am #

      I hope yr knowledge of life is better than yr opinion on nutrition.
      Sugar does NOT cause diabetes.

      wrt–Like complex carbohydrates (i.e. sugar) these are a necessary nutrition. Too much sugar and one most likely ends up with diabetes.

      2 blunders in one sentence,


  5. K-Dog June 18, 2018 at 10:25 am #

    Some of you may recall I saw Jordan last month at the Moore theater in Seattle.

    Jordan Peterson pissed off LGBQs long ago by claiming that scientific evidence suggests kids do better when raised by by both a male and female parent. Apparently as a professor of clinical psychology this power hungry ego stick of a madman thought he had a right to walk the wild side and say this outrageous abomination of a fake news fact. Extensive research and years of experience notwithstanding.

    Mix that black pot of witches brew with a statement that you think a Canadian law which compels ‘correct’ speech is an affront to western civilization and double bubble trouble and a a neo-liberal witch burning is on. Someone get a smoking brand from the me-too fires and lets get to cooking up a rack of patriarchal ribs.

    People get really defensive when they are told that the foundation of what they believe in is built on sands of ignorance. Someone like Peterson with the audacity to claim that responsibility is on the flip side of the coin of freedom are not popular with people who scream it is all about power. People who scream it is about power but who really just want ‘their turn’ at having some of it. That is the conclusion of thinking it is all about power. You become a pig.

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    • Tate June 20, 2018 at 3:16 pm #

      The things he says are just common sense truisms. It’s astounding that he gets pushback for saying such uncontroversial things. But such are the times we live in. And, of course, Peterson is a globalist & will not touch certain other subjects, as VoxDay & others have pointed out more than once.

  6. sauerkraut June 18, 2018 at 10:31 am #

    Why is this allowed? Because it’s a distraction.

    White males are not the oppressors. About 100,000 people worldwide are the oppressors. Many of them are white. The active ones are mostly male.

    So, to people who cannot calculate, and to the intellectually lazy, white males are the problem. Of course it’s not true. Few distractions are.

    • JohnAZ June 18, 2018 at 11:39 am #

      Where are the cores of societies where dark invaders are allowed to enter in and try to participate, where ethnocentricism is cancelled out somewhat by the goodness of sharing by the common man. Europe, the sucker societies and the US. Darker based societies do not allow others to immigrate, only emigrate. People in Latin America do not travel thousands of miles to try to storm the gates of Venezuela to get in. White, male societies are the only ones to open their gates to the inflow of “tired and poor”. Why? Because the upwardly moving capitalistic societies that are common in these societies have required regular infusions of cheap labor. So, open the gates. If the infusion and movement upward of immigration into the Caucasian parts of the world is considered a good thing, so be it. If it is considered evil by some, give me a better alternative. As it is, the ascent of the White male, capitalistic, wealth centered societies have and will continue to lead the progress of the world.

      That is the progress of the non-white, female elements who have lined up at the gates, virtual or real, struggling to get in. Just like the generations of White males that have struggled between themselves, and against nature, they will have to struggle to get their share. It will not be handed to them by a group of Communistic tending globalistic socialists. You call the globalists fascists, I think that is correct.

      A thing not talked about very much is the end of the unlimited resource era and its effect on attitudes on immigration. Why so much resistance to illegal immigration now. Because before, unlimited resources and space needed to be exploited by bringing in unlimited numbers of immigrants. Just at the time that Europe was overpopulated and needed to offload significant parts of its population. Not today, the US has allowed its need for labor to be shipped overseas, reducing the demand for labor. Unfettered immigration increases the supply, thus wages go down. Stir AI into the mix and the situation is worse. Even available arable land is becoming an issue. And liberals, yes, climate change is real, but unavoidable and forecasts show that the US share of arable land may decrease.

      Bottom line, WM societies have led the charge of progress in the world. Everyone else better hitch their wagons onto the train or be left behind. And all you ignorant whites that think that socialism and free rides are the secret, move to Venezuela.

      • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 12:37 pm #

        Progress? Only in the short term. We’re seeing the unwinding of all that nonsense as we speak. Unmitigated wealth transfer to a mere handful based on the illusory short term promise of “progress” is like a desert mirage: oh so enticing for those seeking it, but always just over the next bump in the road.

        But it’s not about “whiteness” in the least, even though most of the progress propagators are white. It’s about wealth and power; who has it and what they’re willing to do to get it (anything), and who doesn’t and what they’ll do to resist it. The war of all against all has been declared and will continue to be waged until our demented species either wakes the fuck up to that fact, or is exterminated in the process.

        • JustSaying June 18, 2018 at 1:22 pm #

          Couldn’t agree more.

          As for the new gender categories (e.g. ze, zir, they, xem, nem, hir, nir….), who can remember or decipher all this craziness?

          • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 2:40 pm #

            I’m thinking the same thing. Based on practicality alone, it’s a total non-starter.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 2:53 pm #

            That’s why people go to school and major in gender studies: to become the Professors, nay the High Priest/Priestesses that lead such as you into this Promised Land.

        • Bill7 June 18, 2018 at 3:57 pm #

          All well said.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 2:55 pm #

        Also Whites used to value Themselves. The most precious natural resource of all is Ourselves, the Makers, the Builder Race. Obviously Whites can’t lead the World in anything if We don’t exist anymore.

        • draupnir June 19, 2018 at 12:56 am #

          Nature doesn’t care about race. It’s drive is always towards improvement, and strangely enough it’s all in a woman’s nose. Apparently, our odor carries a lot of genetic information in it, and in women it goes right down past her conscious mind down into the reptilian brain where her instincts live. If she is free of other constraints it will steer towards a man who smells radically different from herself, and you can’t get much more radical than a black or Asian male. Her instincts know that he will make strong, healthy, attractive children for her, and on the whole those mixed race children are a cut above in the looks department, and sometimes you get such a happy swirl of genetic material you end up with a Hallie Berry or a Megan Markle or the child of my daughter’s friend. The parents of this girl are ordinary looking people of their respective races, but their children – my God! They were visiting once and I invited their daughter out to lunch with me and my granddaughter – just one of those buffet-style places, they’re cheap and the kids like them, and I witnessed something remarkable. I saw that maybe 14 year old girl walk though that crowded restaurant in her shorts and tank top with all that cafe-au-lait skin glowing and soft black curls framing a face of such exquisite beauty she could make an angel weep with envy and she stopped every man in that place dead in his tracks. She turned every male head at every table she passed. It went through that restaurant like a wave. They couldn’t take their eyes off her. Women weren’t immune either and a couple of the teenage boys so forgot themselves they started following her around. I didn’t dare let her go to the bathroom by herself. I think even you Janos would have coveted such a treasure. Gifts like that transcend such mundane considerations as race. Looks like that are a curse and a danger to such a young girl and I was glad she was being raised in a small farming community. She recently graduated from college. Men fall all over themselves to attract her attention. She probably causes traffic accidents when she is out on the street. She will be offered every job she ever applies for, leaping over other, possibly more qualified candidates with a single bound and they will pay her more to acquire her. She will have any man she wants. She will be showered with all the gifts the world reserves for such a one. She’s the kind of woman even a prince of England would be proud to have on his arm.

          • elysianfield June 19, 2018 at 11:38 am #

            Nice post, but vaguely unsettling….

          • draupnir June 19, 2018 at 12:16 pm #

            I’ve never been in the presence of anyone so beautiful. Her mother didn’t allow her makeup, not wanting her to appear older than her years. She was obviously jailbait, and everybody knew it, but they couldn’t help themselves. The whole atmosphere of the room changed and she seemed unaware of the effect she was having or the power of her appearance. What a gift to give your child; a catapult out of the working class.

          • SpeedyBB June 19, 2018 at 2:42 pm #

            Megan Markle is not the best example to prop up, if you read the manifold accounts of those who have interacted with her at close quarters: selfish, manipulative, ruthless, entitled are the attributes often mentioned.

            His Royal Highness will have his hands full with that good-looker. Until one or the other gets dumped, that is.

          • Tate June 20, 2018 at 3:29 pm #

            The octoroon & quadroon courtesans in the fleshpots of ante-bellum New Orleans were also highly sought after. The exotic always attracts attention. That’s almost certainly why she got all the looks. It doesn’t follow that mixing the races is a good idea, Draupnir although in small numbers it probably does no harm if you don’t reckon with the personal harm. But the personal harm is not inconsiderable. The lifelong difficulty of failing to fully identify with either your mother or your father’s racial inheritance is what I’m talking about. In another country the outcome might be different, but in America, she will probably end up identifying as Black, but probably with the painful awareness of never being fully accepted as a full member.

          • draupnir June 20, 2018 at 7:46 pm #

            Nature doesn’t care much about cultural issues either.

          • draupnir June 20, 2018 at 7:58 pm #

            SpeedyBB, I know almost nothing about Megan Markle, but I’m sure of one thing – she’s very clever indeed. She’s bagged herself the biggest prize of all, a real live prince. She’s won out over formidable odds. The deck was stacked against her. She’s an actress, she’s divorced, she’s of mixed race, but of all of the hundreds, possibly thousands of women who have thrown themselves at the handsome prince over the years he selected her and obviously adores her. I’m sure she is smart enough to make herself agreeable to him. Most importantly, I’m sure she will give him anything he wants, anytime he wants it, with her enthusiastic participation. Men are so easy sometimes. .

          • Tate June 20, 2018 at 9:55 pm #

            Nature may not care about culture, but culture cares about nature.

  7. wm5135 June 18, 2018 at 10:32 am #

    Having created a youth worshiping culture with all of the attendant marketing structures and propaganda we have taken the next available step, we have put the children in charge. The idea that parents can be the “best friend” of a teenager and not an intimate mentor is all that one needs to know to map out the current topology.

    Through away a lifetime’s experience and relate to the world as a fouteen year old. I would not believe this crap if I did not have a daily experience of it.

  8. Paulo June 18, 2018 at 10:35 am #

    While retired for the last 6 years, I did spend 17 years teaching high school in BC. The rest of my working life was spent in industry. We have an excellent teachers union in BC, called the BCTF. One thing we fought very hard for, including a 1 week walkout some15 years ago? is the concept of Teacher Autonomy. What that basically means is that there are learning outcomes that are strived for, but how we get there is our own business. In other words, (like any decent parent I treated my students with the respect I hoped my children would receive), no one tells me or told me what to say or how I was to address my classroom beyond that foundation of civility. No one told me what resources to use in the classroom or how I was to teach.

    The teaching profession and lunch staffrooms are full of PC bullshit.(I guess, because I don’t remeber suffering any PC attacks). The BCTF Union is full of social justice warriors, but we can argue with them and tell them to pound sand if we choose to do so.

    I do remember this. When the PCers got a few drinks under their belt they liked to have a good time just like anyone else. Treating people with respect and civility, and being above the PC fray works just fine. They left me alone and I didn’t poke them in the eye about their beliefs. They can think any way they want…..just like me. We remained friends and colleagues.

    The point of this comment is explaining the safety an individual feels in belonging to a good Union. I knew my rights and expected they would be met. I believe the PC oppressed folks are more worried about their livlihood and economic safety, and as a consequence feel the pressure to conform. Maybe the best first step is not engaging with a drum pounder, but go to the computer and do a quick search on labour organizations. If a person is already a union member get out your contract and read the section on a harrasment-free work site. Then, tell them to go pound sand. Or better yet, ignore them and go on about the day. Getting roped in to this argument is a waste of time.

    • sprawlcapital June 18, 2018 at 12:38 pm #

      Thanks you, Paulo.

      To those who bash socialism, I remind them that socialists are the strongest supporters od unions anywhere. (Refer, please, to the Democratic Socialists of America [DSA] website.)

      I also remind them that streets, roads, and highways in the US are publicly owned and maintained, and, therefore, socialist. Also, electrical utilities, water systems, and sewer systems are publicly regulated and in many cases owned by the public.

      So, to avoid participating in socialism, the right needs to avoid ever plugging an appliance into the electrical grid. Right wingers must also never take a shower, flush a toilet, or drive a car. Otherwise they are socialists.

      Unfortunately, DSA, of which I am a member, is home to some of the worst of the PC BS. The world is imperfect.

      • sprawlcapital June 18, 2018 at 12:40 pm #

        Thanks you [Thank you]

        • GreenAlba June 18, 2018 at 2:34 pm #

          And you are even more socialist than the UK (please note!!) as our utilities have long been privatised. In fact those Brits who get their electricity from EDF (the French state-owned Electricité de France) which operates in the UK, are getting their juice from a Foreign Power 🙂 .

          And TPTB have had a neat way (one of several) of instigating the creeping privatisation of the NHS too. Instead of the government borrowing money to build a hospital (or school) a PFI (private finance initiative) outfit puts up the money. Over the lifetime of the agreement (30 years I think) they rake in up to 7 times the value of the original loan and, as the icing on the cake, the hospital (or school) never becomes the property of the NHS Trust that paid for it – it still belongs to Messrs P, F and I, who ‘manage’ it.

          Nice work if you can get it (but it keeps the loan off the government books, even though the government would have paid nothing like the x7 multiplier).

          So, socialism for the private equity bods as well. And fewer doctors and nurses because the hospital spends so much of its money paying the PFI guys. Then you can crucify the hospital if it fails in any way through inadequate staffing BROUGHT ABOUT BY PRIVATISATION and – bingo! – you’ve got an argument for dismantling the NHS and bringing in private medicine. They think of everything, our lords and masters…

          • BC_EE June 19, 2018 at 11:34 am #

            Nope, the utilities are proxy socialist enterprises. Have worked/managed a few as an Engineer. Each utility is awarded a franchise. The capex and operating costs are reviewed by the Regulator and rates set. The utility earns a profit margin in accordance to current and forecasted economic return market levels.

            How the utility is owned and staffed is were the privatization comes in. I have worked in both and each has their insidious self-motivating rot. In the public institution it is the JFL syndrome (Job For Life). This sucks the life and soul out of most, kills just about any innovation at birth, and has no regard for wastage. As long as it can be justified in the Regulator rate reviews, spend away!

            Private utilities are on the other side of the spectrum where the capital is drawn off to shareholders. A more innovative environment, but not so good for long term infrastructure.

            Which option is in the best interests of the public good is the golden question. Don’t think we have figured it out yet, but as usual the answer is probably somewhere in the middle path.

            As for NHS, I heartily agree. We have the benefit of having the opposite extreme right over the fence. We certainly know the grass is not greener over there. All too often I hear the admiration and envy from my American family and friends about our health coverage. “You just pull out your card like your Driver’s License and that’s it?” Yup. “Incredible!”. You would think we had landed from another planet with the secrets to life and happiness.

          • GreenAlba June 20, 2018 at 6:10 am #

            Thanks for the insights into the utilities you’ve worked in, BC.

            I agree with the dilemma, having also worked in both private and public sectors. Although when I was in the public sector I wasn’t lucky enough to have a JFL, only short-term contracts and lots of unpaid hours after the kids had gone to bed!

          • GreenAlba June 20, 2018 at 6:44 am #

            PS if you’re interested in the NHS, the film ‘Sell out’, available in full here (50-odd minutes)…


            …and made by doctors trying to save the NHS, explains the various strategies that have been used and are being used to set the NHS up for privatisation (via engineered collapse, if necessary) – and specifically to be bought over by giant American healthcare companies. It is my belief that this is a major imperative of Brexit – on the part of the leaders, not the voters (this film was made in 2014, before Brexit, so these guys didn’t know how this would fit in).

            The major Brexit leaders are Atlanticists (Liam Fox, currently Trade Secretary, previously sacked for confusing public service with serving his own private financial interests) set up Atlantic Bridge for just such dark money dealings.


            As the doctor near the beginning of the film states, there’s £110 billion up for grabs. And no-one’s going to tell me that getting their hands on it isn’t going to be a non-negotiable condition of any post-Brexit trade deal with the US. Everyone with a brain knows this. As does Wily Fox, who will be negotiating the deal. Then he’ll retire from public life via the revolving door into the private healthcare sector and watch his investments grow. I’d bet my house on it, if I don’t lose it to privatised medicine in the meantime.

          • GreenAlba June 20, 2018 at 7:54 am #

            I forgot to mention Wily Fox is an ex-General Practitioner.

            I don’t think he stuck at it for very long. Work at the coal face wasn’t really for him. Bigger fish to fry (sorry, more mixed metaphors).

    • Tate June 18, 2018 at 1:56 pm #

      Clearly, you never taught in a classroom full of dindus.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 3:00 pm #

      Yeah well, no. They only tolerate others for as long as they have to and not one second longer. Part of the Fall of the West is due to tolerating those who are intolerably intolerant. Such as Leftists, Minorities, and Muslims. These Cultures are not tolerant. White Cultures are tolerant – too much so obviously, unto their doom.

      Things have moved past your experience yet you will continue to rely on your personal experience, discounting all other reports. That’s what it means to get old.

      • elysianfield June 19, 2018 at 11:43 am #

        Things have moved past your experience yet you will continue to rely on your personal experience, discounting all other reports. That’s what it means to get old.


        Then wisdom, as it is generally referred to, does not exist?

      • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2018 at 12:56 pm #

        No, I was talking to a particular person, Paulo. Worldly Wisdom is realizing that “your mileage may vary”. His experience with PC wasn’t too bad so he assumes if you mind your business, they’ll mind theirs. That is simply not the case for many. And soon won’t be the case for any as it pushes into remoter and remoter areas.

        One guy in rural Maine, an Alderman or some such thing, said that he didn’t think Somalis belonged in rural Maine. His peers, eager to resonate with the Ideology of Empire, destroyed him. Nice folks. I’ll post the article later.

        • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:16 am #

          he didn’t think Somalis belonged in rural Maine.
          Well, they are some of the laziest humanoids on the planet…in a cold place like Maine, how do they survive.

  9. Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 10:42 am #

    Excellent post, Jim! I guess we can add “Peak Insanity” to the list of things peaking these days.

    Mr. Peterson laid it out nicely: identity politics assigns everyone to ethnic, racial, and sexual groups, and all the human relations among them amount to never-ending battles for political power. Nothing else matters. Individuals especially don’t matter, only the group. And no group has abused its power more than European white men.

    All the better to take everyone’s attention off the menacing rhinoceros in the room: (economic and power) class consciousness. All the rest is a mere smokescreen. Money and the power that it buys is the only game in town these days.

    • K-Dog June 18, 2018 at 10:54 am #

      Good to see you Scratch, someone else who reads before he posts.

      Peterson likes to point out the absurdity in defining people only in terms of group membership. Creating an endless division into finer and finer categories in which to slice dice and pigeon-hole people results. An absurd situation.

      Assigning everyone to different ethnic, racial, and sexual groups is an affront to personal responsibility. It denies individual expression and it insults the following advice.

      Make a careful exploration of who you are and the work you have been given, and then sink yourself into that. Don’t be impressed with yourself. Don’t compare yourself with others. Each of you must take responsibility for doing the creative best you can with your own life.

      “Peak Insanity” I hope so but I fear we are still rolling that rock up the hill.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 3:05 pm #

        And ignores the insanity of pretending that that’s not how almost all other cultures operate. He’s one of the crazies. Of course Whites can’t compete with Cultures who operate as a group. We used to understand things like this until the media created fantasies of uber independence like the Marlboro Man. That’s not how the West was won or the East either. Lone Whites could have never had defeated the Indians. Jeremiah Johnson was an exception the rule, a Superman or Ubermensch.

        • newworld June 18, 2018 at 3:10 pm #

          He was also fighting a tribe whose culture exalted the single warrior, the various other war like tribes would have sent a party up there and then ate him.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 8:52 pm #

            Ah, honor on their part as well. That makes sense. I wondered about that.

        • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:18 am #

          See Greenes book, Moral Tribes.
          Warning, it is junk science.

    • JohnAZ June 18, 2018 at 11:51 am #

      Class conciousness

      Yep! The folks that the Black libs hate the worst are the Successful Blacks that send out the message that success comes from education and hard work. Their message undercuts the gimme culture severely. The next big political shift in the US will be the success of the Black community, (see the latest black unemployment trends) and the destruction of the Democratic Party as a consequence. Good post, ol’ Scratch.

      • Tate June 18, 2018 at 1:54 pm #

        Standard cuck delusion.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 3:11 pm #

        Do you know how dumb the average White guy is with an IQ of 100? The average pure Negro has an IQ of 70. He dwells in a different world altogether – so alien that they can be more interesting than the White who is just a piss poor reflection of your own glory. I’m sorry if you’ve never experienced these mysteries, obsessed as you are with egalitarian fantasies of everyone becoming a millionaire – as if such a thing was possible or even desirable.

        The Founding Fathers were Aristocrats. That’s the only thing that makes them bearable. Jefferson stayed true to those instincts and thus was the best of them.

    • draupnir June 18, 2018 at 12:44 pm #

      I doubt if we’re anywhere near peak insanity yet.

      • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 2:42 pm #

        You’ve got me there. But not for lack of effort.

      • Sean Coleman June 18, 2018 at 5:26 pm #

        My opinion too.

  10. doggersize June 18, 2018 at 10:44 am #

    Political Correctness is basically being polite, rather than being violent or foul mouthed.
    The extreme end of a void of political correctness is the jerry springer show guests.
    The modern vernacular of political correctness is just a term for any criticism that does not does not agree with you. such as when Donald Trump would interject “that’s just political correct”. he has since replaced this with “fake news”. it’s basically just a dog whistle.

    What Jim seems to have problems with are Ideological Correctness. Which is usually squabbling over gender/sexuality/ and occasionally ethnic issues that largely don’t impact most peoples day to day lives most of the time. To be fair, our nation must have very few problems if these issues take up so much time and attention from people.

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    • K-Dog June 18, 2018 at 11:09 am #

      It is the codification of polite and making it law which it is the problem. Denying others the right to appropriately express speech as they wish is a denial of basic rights. PC is not about being polite but is about defining what polite is. Enough Political Correctness and murder can even be defined to be polite.


      200 enemy combatants were removed from action in a clean bombing Tuesday.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 3:30 pm #

        Good distinction, right to the mark. This dog just pooped on the floor and you don’t want to be blamed for his mess.

    • hmuller June 18, 2018 at 11:28 am #

      “To be fair, our nation must have very few problems if these issues take up so much time and attention from people.”

      doggersize, do you actually believe the mainstream news is prioritized and presented according to what’s important?! Hardly! It’s all about the agendas of the Global elite who own those propaganda tools. And now they are cracking down on social media bloggers who color outline the strict lines of PC.

      The true fascistic enemies of free speech are showing themselves. And the worst live in Silicon Valley.

      They already have censored and then eliminated many websites so inconsiderate as to hurt the feeling (or expose the agendas) of the Globalists. As every totalitarian knows the fear of punishment will cause people to self-censor. Sun Tzu: “Kill one, frighten 10,000.” It would be a defeat for humanity if we allow them to succeed.

      • Sean Coleman June 18, 2018 at 11:58 am #

        Colin Flaherty has vanished from YouTube, perhaps for good. He was kicked off before a couple of times and the excuses were always disingenuous. Now French station TV Libertés has also been ‘terminated’ on the pretext of them using third party material (which I understand all news stations use).

        • Tate June 20, 2018 at 7:36 pm #

          You Tube is pretty much run by H-1B visa holders now. Why should they allow free expression of opinion, a concept that is alien to them in their own land?

      • SpeedyBB June 19, 2018 at 2:51 pm #

        In my part of the woods (SE Asia) the expression is more humorous: ‘Kill the chicken to frighten the monkeys’.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 3:29 pm #

      Defining marriage as something other than a man or woman isn’t important? Or that men and women aren’t “men” and “women” but perhaps something else?

      What could be more important? In France, the terms mother and father are no longer used on official documents. They been polited out of existence. Perhaps the words polite and politic have the same roots?

      • GreenAlba June 20, 2018 at 8:02 am #

        “Perhaps the words polite and politic have the same roots?”

        No, they don’t. And it’s so easy to check on these things you’d be amazed (but you shouldn’t).

        Google: ‘politics etymology’, then ‘polite etymology’.

        And there you have it. No need to make stuff up or wonder or ‘suggest’.

  11. GreenAlba June 18, 2018 at 10:50 am #

    I watched this last week, entirely coincidentally, just because it popped up on my YouTube sidebar (I think I’d been watching the Jordan Peterson/Camille Paglia discussion someone linked to).

    Stephen Fry is small fry in many ways – he gets called the stupid person’s clever person, or words to that effect. He’s no genius, but he’s reasonably well educated, if a bit taken with himself (I don’t mean on this occasion, I mean generally) but I thought what he said here was fair enough and the losing side lost fairly – they were lightweights.

    From what I recall the vast majority of people disagreed with the proposition before the start and disagreed even more after the debate, so MED and MG would have had their work cut out to actually win, but I guess it’s the ‘value added’ or ‘subtracted’ that counts in these events.

    There will be lots of comments on JP so I’ll leave him un-commented on… I can’t remember the details anyway, but I’ve heard him say it before.

    A couple of the things I personally remember from long-ago pre-PC days isn’t people talking about things they feel they can’t talk about now, as a ‘free speech’ issue, it’s children being called ‘spastics’ and ‘mongols’ by other children and it being considered OK to have pictures from wank mags plastered on the walls where women had to work (factories rather than offices). I don’t want that back, thanks. Although I’m sure the kids have different insults, but I wish I could find a different word from ‘distasteful’ to convey how the ‘spastic’ and ‘mongol’ thing made me feel when I heard kids being called that.

    So I think maybe that means I agree with doggersize.

    I’m glad to have been introduced to Camille Paglia, though – I could listen to her all afternoon, although she talks 20 to the dozen and says ‘okay’ to an annoying degree.

    • K-Dog June 18, 2018 at 10:58 am #

      “children being called ‘spastics’ and ‘mongols’ by other children and it being considered OK to have pictures from wank mags plastered on the walls where women had to work (factories rather than offices). I don’t want that back, thanks.”

      The ugly fact of freedom without responsibility. Other people get hurt!

    • Exscotticus June 18, 2018 at 12:28 pm #

      >>> it being considered OK to have pictures from wank mags plastered on the walls where women had to work (factories rather than offices). I don’t want that back, thanks.

      But isn’t that a false equivalence? We’re not talking about rude and inappropriate behavior at the work place; we’re talking about all conservative thought being ipso facto banned from academia and MSM. We’re talking about speakers like Coulter and Shapiro—hardly the vanguard of the “wank mag” movement.

      • GreenAlba June 18, 2018 at 1:11 pm #

        It’s not about the existence of wank mags. It’s about the idea that women’s ‘feelings’ were a joke (‘feelings’ don’t get good press among some of the anti-PC folks currently either) and not relevant to the reality that men didn’t want to be deprived of images they felt entitled to look at while at work.

        Don’t imagine men didn’t rail at the ‘political correctness’ of the view that they couldn’t just act like men at work because of those annoying women and their PC whining.

        I remember other things from the 70s, like having to share an office with a man who smoked all day long and not being able to even open the window. There are still people who think him not being able to do that any more is PC gawn mad too.

        It’s a broad umbrella and I hear it used to cover all sorts of behaviour that people would still like to engage in.

        I’m not denying its other meanings. That point was only part of my comment – you will have noted that I did actually watch the debate and comment on it.

        • Exscotticus June 18, 2018 at 1:39 pm #

          I accept the historical context. But conversational terminology must accede to its current usage. PC is no longer about sexism, just as liberalism is no longer about classical liberalism. However broad you think PC is, it’s all about contraining the behavior of particular classes of people. You would do a disservice to yourself by advocating for PC when you really mean a tiny subset of what has evolved into outright racial and political censorship.

          • Exscotticus June 19, 2018 at 10:25 am #

            And here we have another example of PC’s relentless drive toward a world without offense…

            Report: Netflix Bans Employees from Looking at Each Other for More Than Five Seconds

          • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 1:56 pm #

            Hmmmm…on the face of it that’s ridiculous.

            We had nothing like that at the office I worked in, yet people all treated one another with complete respect – that’s in my local office, though, where there were mostly women, with a few well-behaved (and mostly married) men of a certain age.

            In one of the other offices where there were more young men, there was an incident where a guy was planning to leave (the marketing department) and set up on his own. He was obviously none too bright because he told a member of senior management about his plans, for some reason I don’t remember – offering his services perhaps.

            The Sr Mgt guy then instructed IT to check his emails to find out if he’d been poaching customers, and lo and behold they found a network of guys in the office who were exchanging the kind of comments about their female colleagues that, shall we say, breached the company’s guidelines on data and network use. I gather it was quite bad – they were all sacked on the spot. I’d love to have been a fly on the wall as they explained to their girlfriends (and maybe some wives) why they were suddenly let go.

            It must have been pretty creepy for the women to find out that things were not as they had seemed on the surface. But the company put it out for everyone so that it wouldn’t happen again, and everyone just got back to work (after a bit of justified schadenfreude!).

            So you’re not necessarily being treated with respect just because they’re not staring at you for 6 seconds! And I suppose now they’d have a WhatsApp group instead. Such is life…

        • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:20 am #

          urban dictionary– broad umbrella is when she spreads her legs.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 3:32 pm #

      Western Civ has to go so people’s feelings don’t get hurt. Especially if they ARE mongols or spastics….

      • GreenAlba June 18, 2018 at 6:05 pm #

        The children at whom the insults were aimed were neither mongols (the term used by the ignorant back then for Down’s syndrome children). nor spastics (a term no longer used for the condition). The children insulting them were ‘merely’ using names of unfortunate conditions as insults.

        If you had a child with Down’s syndrome, how would you like him or her to be treated exactly? Or one who just had learning difficulties?

        These aren’t things that just happen to other people.

        Maybe you’d just tell them to grow a spine.

        • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 2:14 pm #

          “Especially if they ARE mongols or spastics….”

          I’m actually struggling to believe you said that. And this from the person who supposedly respects human life sufficiently to howl endlessly about the outrage of abortion.

          I don’t know how old you are, Janos, but if you’re young enough to have a child, you should know they don’t all pop out perfect just because you’re an Aryan supermensch. And you have them for life. And you have to love them, no matter what their imperfections.

          If ‘Western Civ’ can’t accommodate decent behaviour towards the imperfect ones, it doesn’t deserve anyone’s respect anyway.

          Your views are so grotesque that I find myself almost wishing you could find yourself in such a situation to see what you’d make of it. Clandestine, self-justifying abortion or a lifetime of resentment? Only ‘almost’, though.

  12. akmofo June 18, 2018 at 10:56 am #

    “For the pro position: Michael Eric Dyson, sociology prof from Georgetown U, and New York Times columnist Michelle Goldberg”
    – JHK


    Amazing how people deliberately fail to see the obvious. Again we can see where this PC nonsense emanates from: the Vatican and its hired Jewish storefront display dummies.

    There are no coincidences in this world! For once I would like to see JHK do an honest assessment regards this issue. How the Vatican uses its hired Jewish shmatas for a media spotlight and scapegoat for its totalitarian globalist “NWO” evil schemes.

    Why the silence, Jim? Another one of those dreadful allergies? You can’t handle the truth? You’d be amazed at how many dots you’ll be able to connect once you earnestly adopt such insight.

    • GreenAlba June 18, 2018 at 11:26 am #

      Akmofo, there are coincidences in the world. I say that with complete confidence.

      If you take off your ideological blinkers, it’s easier to distinguish them from the other stuff that some evil bunch of barstewards did some actual work on.

      • akmofo June 18, 2018 at 11:30 am #

        Not in politics, Green Narnia!

        • akmofo June 18, 2018 at 11:35 am #

          It’s also no coincidence that people are fearful to speak about the Vatican! It’s as though it doesn’t exist, and yet very consequential political personalities constantly hold audience there. Why?!

    • James Howard Kunstler June 18, 2018 at 11:48 am #

      I intend to write about the connection between Jewish intellectuals and Marxist orthodoxy in the book I’m working on, now underway. For the moment: I’d say it’s undeniable that Jewish intellectuals are represented disproportionately in Marxist / Leftist activism. One of the early policies of the Russian Revolution was to suppress antisemitism. And many of the early Soviet leaders were Jewish. Also, the Russian Revolution occurred around the same time that Eastern European Jewish immigration to the USA had peaked, so naturally the ideas of Leftist intellectuals formed a deep current of Jewish-American thinking. These days, though, the PC movement that arose out of that has more to do with the hidden shame and disappointment over the outcome of the Civil Rights campaign, as well as careerism in the university faculties, many of them being academically high-achieving Jewish women. –JHK

      • akmofo June 18, 2018 at 12:00 pm #

        “I’d say it’s undeniable that Jewish intellectuals are represented disproportionately in Marxist / Leftist activism.” – JHK


        Says who, Janos? What’s the quota? A hundred Jews? A thousand Jews? How’s that representative or over-representative of 18 million Jews?

        • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 3:41 pm #

          Solzhenitsyn for one. I know you folks don’t like him, but that’s to the point. He reported that you all were Massively involved in the Russian Revolution – it’s leaders for all intents and purposes.

          • akmofo June 18, 2018 at 6:01 pm #

            Massively involved?!!

            So did his list reach a thousand names?
            Did his list reach a hundred names?
            Did his list reach ten names?

            How many Jewish armies fought in the Russian Revolution? How many Jewish army divisions? How many Jewish regiments? How many Jewish battalions? How many Jewish Platoons? Since you’re such an avid Solzhenitsyn reader can you even cite one Jewish platoon? That’s less than 50 people!

            You’re so full of it, you and your Vatican nazi propaganda.

      • doggersize June 18, 2018 at 12:31 pm #

        the crazy side of right wing and liberterian stuff also has a lot of ethnic jews these days. both the revolutionaries and counterrevolutionaries of europe bring their baggage here.

        • Tate June 18, 2018 at 1:48 pm #

          Idealism, the bane of conservatism*. Jews are prone to it because of their learning traditions.

          * “Neoconservatism” doesn’t count.

      • Exscotticus June 18, 2018 at 1:11 pm #


        I would imagine a careerist’s response to political discrimination in academia would produce a fairly universal outcome not particularly intrinsic to Jewish intellectuals. The disproportionately can perhaps be attributed to Jewish culture itself, which has always placed social justice and education high on its list of values (for obvious historical reasons).

        In any case, you’ve never shied away from controversial assessments. This one may earn you misplaced accolades from antisemites, and a “self-hating Jew” stigmata from the critics…

      • newworld June 18, 2018 at 1:13 pm #

        Just a reminder you were warned by a very gifted film maker, Kubrick in “Clockwork Orange.”

        Take a look to see who was the scientist that created the machine and methodology to turn Alex into a good citizen, and then the last scene who was to take the blame for Alex’s misfortune.

      • BackRowHeckler June 19, 2018 at 12:18 am #

        Jim, no disrespect intended, but the Bolsheviks went after Synagogues plenty, looting, vandalizing and desecrating them just as fiercely as Lutheran, Baptist, Catholic and Orthodox chuches.

        Check out Robert Conquests ‘Harvest of Sorrow’ and see how the ‘activists’ dealt with all religious organizations inside the Soviet Union from the very beginning. Synagogues weren’t spared.


        • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:22 am #

          Why would it matter? Most Jews are atheists and do not go to a temple.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 3:35 pm #

      In other words, any time a Jew does something bad, it’s really a Catholic doing something bad. So can we also say – since Jews have no agency – that whenever a Jew does something good, it’s really a Catholic doing something good?

      • akmofo June 18, 2018 at 5:19 pm #

        That’s right. Some “Jewish” shmatas working for the NYTimes has ZERO agency. If they did, they would not work for the anti-semitic and anti-Israeli NYTimes, a Vatican/CIA propaganda outlet.

        Also, pretty much all the so-called “Jewish” agencies are in fact Vatican front groups. From the useless ADL to the useless AIPAC to useless Bnei Brit, etc., the welfare of Jews is the last thing on their mind.

        I’m not the only one to have a personal experience in this. I spoke to many people in the US (and Canada) who were in distress and who turned to these organizations for help and received none. These same organizations give FREE aid to anti-semitic and anti-Israeli Islamists and other Jew haters. Such nonsense only makes sense when one understands who and what these organizations really are.

        It’s the same with the so-called “black” agencies in the US. All are propaganda fronts. Vatican/CIA created and controlled organizations, meant to really disenfranchise blacks and prevent them from any true political organizing.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 6:23 pm #

          So in other words, when Einstein wrote racist entries in his diary, that was the Vatican speaking thru him. And when he discovered relativity, that was the Vatican speaking thru him. You’re puppets!

          • akmofo June 18, 2018 at 6:56 pm #

            Einstein didn’t discover anything. He proposed a theory, and this theory is wrong. His theory was pounced upon and promulgated by the Vatican and its “science” propaganda organs because it suited the Vatican’s criminal and deceitful agenda. Einstein theory is wrong and is a dead end! The only reason Einstein’s theory still stands even though it is demonstrably false (like Newton’s theory, and like Darwin’s theory), is because of the Vatican’s political sponsorship. Einstein himself was about to admit his errors in favour of Immanuel Velikovsky, but was poisoned and murdered by the Vatican to prevent him from doing so.

        • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:26 am #

          akmofo June 18, 2018 at 6:01 pm #
          Massively involved?!!

          So did his list reach a thousand names?
          Did his list reach a hundred names?
          Did his list reach ten names?

          How many Jewish armies fought in the Russian Revolution? How many Jewish army divisions? How many Jewish regiments? How many Jewish battalions? How many Jewish Platoons? Since you’re such an avid Solzhenitsyn reader can you even cite one Jewish platoon? That’s less than 50 people!

          You’re so full of it, you and your Vatican nazi propaganda.
          All that matters is how many Jews were on ‘the council’–the leaders of USSR.
          You need to understand what life would be like if Jews had absolute power, read about the horrors inflicted upon the Gentile Russians by the Jewish Bolsheviks when they controlled Russia (prior to Stalin). And look at Israel and how they have mistreated and killed arabs for decades.
          Look at Mossad. [for Ch– sake]

          If you want to see examples of their hatred – it’s there on Twitter.
          Comments like “white people need to die” are typical of Jewish people who don’t understand that many of us are onto their “fellow white people” ploy.
          The mainstream media (owned and controlled by them) wouldn’t blink an eye if tens of millions of us were sent to concentration camps.

  13. Bro Jobe June 18, 2018 at 11:01 am #

    Re “human relations are solely about power.”

    Nietzsche said it first. Foucault, whose book on prisons is actually a good read, said it later and actually rather well. But more precisely, it’s about acting on a WILL to power.

    If Foucault had not been French and gay, he’d be on the outs on campus; from my reading his philosophy is not at all “PC.” Reading Derrida, however, is like wading through warm mush full of razor blades.

    Anyone can exercise a will to power. Even Viktor Frankl, near death in Auschwitz, exercised it and developed a philosophy called Logotherapy to help others use their wills and imagination to endure suffering they cannot avoid or overthrow.

    From what I know of it, the “PC” moves on college campuses are about denying our innate will to power. It is also a smokescreen for some very nasty campus politics that are all about power.

    • K-Dog June 18, 2018 at 11:21 am #

      The will to power Nietzsche hoped would allow man to save himself as no god can do it. Power resulting from being free of tyrannous chains of ignorance and control.

      I see your connection, PC imposes a new religion of control to replace the function formerly held by a religious scream of ‘blasphemy’. But PC does not deserve such a comparison. To be a proper religion it needs to refined longer.

      • messianicdruid June 18, 2018 at 12:36 pm #

        “The will to power Nietzsche hoped would allow man to save himself as no god can do it. Power resulting from being free of tyrannous chains of ignorance and control.”

        Straw man – the Creator is not a tyrant. The “ignorance and control” comes from the false gods [ rulemakers ] and philosophers promulgating the lie, “you will be like God, deciding good and evil”.

        When we take it upon ourselves to decide right and wrong it results in chaos, inevitably. Face it.

        • K-Dog June 18, 2018 at 1:11 pm #

          When we take it upon ourselves to decide right and wrong it results in chaos

          That was Nietzsche’s point. He knew chaos would result but science and reason, critical thinking had robbed religion of it’s power by his time. He did not do it. Blame not him or I.

          A bliblical ziggurat of postmodern babble reaches into our sky. Built without building codes where anything goes and nothing matters is what we have. Without direction and planning it can only but tumble down with much pain.

          Nietzsche searched for answers, very sad that the beating of a horse pushed him over the edge and then, defenseless and mad, his sister turned him into a t-shirt.

          • messianicdruid June 18, 2018 at 4:58 pm #

            A friend of mine has this rule: he will read a book until the first lie, then he lays it down and goes on to something else. When Nietzsche says, “God is dead, I kinda do the same thing. I understand the metaphor, but it is only true for those who separate themselves. It is actually themselves which are dead.

    • James Howard Kunstler June 18, 2018 at 11:35 am #

      On campus, most of the PC maneuvering is about career-enhancement. Faculty collect brownie points for echoing orthodoxy and receive plum job and perqs — a self-reinforcing problem. — jhk

      • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 12:44 pm #

        The same problem exists in the corporate realm.

        • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:27 am #

          Businesses, once upon a time, had to make money.
          Colleges are usually non profit.

      • SpeedyBB June 19, 2018 at 3:19 pm #

        Although my time in Western academia was some five decades ago, I remember well the power-brokering and favoritism and general disregard for intellectual quality in favor of political expediency.

        The big difference now as I see it is that the maneuvers and shenanigans I refer to above were all carried out by the professorial priesthood, with input and guidance from a nervous administration (looking over its shoulder at the state legislature). Students were never considered nor consulted. They were they to be inculcated with approved teaching.

        Am I mistaken in proposing that the failure of academia to resolve major issues in a decaying society has resulted in its surrender to a fanatical youth culture?

  14. RB June 18, 2018 at 11:12 am #

    TEOTWAWKI. At least how I knew it. There is an epidemic, pandemic, of stupid and the bizarre. But wait for the explosion of revolt when someone, somewhere says ENOUGH! Don’t like white men. Go xxxx yourself. Who you going to call when the toilet backs up? The septic tank needs pumping? Need new tires installed? Broken down on I-95? Who will show up? Power outage? Who repairs? Carpet installed? The list is long of jobs typically done by mostly males and mostly white males. So keep up the barrage of bullshit until you have crap flooding the bathroom. What we are seeing is bizarre, perversion, dumbness cubed. We are allowing our society to become the freak show of shows. The Dark side, and there is one, is winning. But a rubber band can only be stretched so far and then other stuff happens. It might not be in my lifetime but it will be. The so called rule of law, the so called justice system is exposed for it has always been, corrupt. The bust is coming. Call it the Long Emergency or whatever but it will blow.

    • Eoin June 18, 2018 at 12:48 pm #

      “The Dark side, and there is one, is winning.” (RB)
      Nope, don’t think so, and Mr. Jordan Peterson is a good example of why that is so.
      On fronts closer to where the rest of us abide, comportment with reality will occur sooner, and with greater import, as you indicate in your post. Also, off-campus, and television, even the people who would be direct beneficiaries of PC culture do not really give a shit; maybe the LGBTQ, etc. crowd, but they’re an estimated 10% of the population. Even if they all vote, their presence is overrated due to media exposure, kinda like the free ride POTUS got during the campaign, only with opposite results.
      Cheer-up, almost every single thing that you see was once an idea in a White cis-gendered male of European descent- that ain’t gonna change. Not , at least, until we are living in mud huts again.
      Even then, innovation would arise from traditional sources.
      The only thing that’s going to blow is neo-Bolshevik culture, and “Pride Month”, of course.

      • Eoin June 18, 2018 at 12:49 pm #

        Your featured painting is very good. Your capture of reflection on the water is exceptional. Saranac Lake, or Lake Placid ? I spent some time in Westport, and I still miss Essex County.

      • RB June 18, 2018 at 4:35 pm #

        Liberals understand they must always control the microphone and hence the message. As well, they must stop conservative talk radio and the conservative internet sites. The dark side will keep ahead. A rising economy eventually sputters and the darkness will settle back in.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 6:28 pm #

        We’re down under 70% of the population now, closer to 60% and aging rapidly. All by design. It’s not going to happen? But it IS happening. Sorry if we refuse to pretend it isn’t just so you can stay complacent.

      • GreenAlba June 20, 2018 at 7:41 am #

        “even the people who would be direct beneficiaries of PC culture do not really give a shit; maybe the LGBTQ, etc. crowd, but they’re an estimated 10% of the population…”

        It’s nearer 4% (LGBT).


        You can even see where they live.

  15. bukowskisghost June 18, 2018 at 11:17 am #

    Akmofo you are a mofo… and a royal piece of shit

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    • akmofo June 18, 2018 at 11:23 am #

      Yeah, because a little honestly is too much to ask for.

      • elysianfield June 18, 2018 at 12:24 pm #

        Apparently honesty is…entirely subjective.

        If you argue your honesty against another’s, cannot both be honest in their arguments, or is it a zero-sum?

        Perhaps you meant “truth”? Same argument applies.

        • akmofo June 18, 2018 at 1:08 pm #

          No, my honesty is entirely objective. You will notice how JHK entirely ignored the issue, and instead offered a vatican/nazi lie often peddled by our self-confessed vatican nazi, Janos. This is the best “anti-PC” “counterpoint” JHK could offer. The Vatican as a “politically correct” taboo subject remains. It is pathetic, and it shows the dishonesty in this non-discussion “discussion”.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 6:30 pm #

            The Vatican is making you say that. Some opposition is necessary, especially when it’s ludicrous like yours.

            I rub my hands together as I laugh maniacally.

  16. Farmer Joe June 18, 2018 at 11:17 am #

    It seems to me the problem in the thinking of Foucault et al is the premise that human relationships are based on power. Were these people abused as children? Last I checked most human relationships (or at least the ones in my life) were based on love. Maybe these people just need a hug.

    • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 12:49 pm #

      Perhaps “public power” or “professional power” would be more accurate? Although, I don’t see many family relationships these days based on love, either. Power corrupts, as they say. Love tends to get squeezed out of the equation when people are scrambling for every last dime.

      • Farmer Joe June 18, 2018 at 4:40 pm #

        I lead a blessed life. 🙂

        • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 6:43 pm #

          Yes, you do. Ed Abbey was amazed at the love between his last wife and her family. As they camped out in the hospital room for one of their parents, he realized that these people actually liked each other. He had never had that or seen it in the families of his previous wives – and probably couldn’t create it with them either. Asked about his own Allegheny upbringing, he replied, Sure I guess we love each other – when we weren’t knocking each other around.

      • SpeedyBB June 19, 2018 at 3:27 pm #

        For some reason, Ol’ Scratch, your comment makes me think of the Roma, in whose moment-to-moment behavior power is ever evident. Historically they live hand-to-mouth, scorned and persecuted; perhaps their relative powerlessness has given rise to the abuse and loveless attitudes they exhibit, even among one another.

        I find gypsy ‘society’ pretty despicable; the question is why it evolved into such a direction.

        • Tate June 20, 2018 at 7:49 pm #

          The prevailing opinion is the Roma originated in India, a place where indifference to human life is legendary. My Dad was stationed in Calcutta, India during WWII. The stories he told.

  17. amb June 18, 2018 at 11:33 am #

    How can people have their heads so far up their arses? (Rhetorical.)

  18. Zoltar June 18, 2018 at 11:34 am #

    Regarding “the new menu of personal pronouns for the rapidly multiplying new gender categories (e.g. ze, zir, they, xem, nem, hir, nir….” Inventing yet another gender category can gain academic tenure for an academic in today’s glutted market. Declaring to be a member of such as exotic new category can gain status for students, among their gender-ambiguous peers. But there comes a point at which intelligent people of good will can no longer ignore the absurdity of this overreach, and finally call bullshit. Facebook can incorporate another hundred freshly-minted gender categories into their template and I will still draw the line at LGBT. You may have a genome derived from five species of alien, four-dimensional genitalia, and prefer only to have sex telepathically during a solar eclipse but, beyond those four letters, you can go suck an egg. I will not submit to memorizing an endless bunch of ridiculous pronouns.

    • Farmer Joe June 18, 2018 at 11:44 am #

      Just don’t tell zim or zir that ze’s an “it”. That pronoun would make things a lot simpler

      • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 2:47 pm #

        I think we’re working our way back to the impersonal “hey you.”

        • RB June 18, 2018 at 4:29 pm #

          Sorry, not hey you but “hey mutha******”. That seems to get the job done these days. Sorry Grandma, it is the times we live in.

          • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 5:27 pm #


    • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 6:45 pm #

      And the cis are the lowest of them all. Cissies will become the new insult once sissies are installed as Queens and Drag Kings.

  19. PeteAtomic June 18, 2018 at 11:36 am #

    Much of the PC culture is reminiscent of a political cult: a special lexicon of terminology, a specific rigid worldview, extremely rigid boundaries between who is “in” and who is “out”, thought control & brainwashing, people who assume authority to denounce others in the movement, etc…

    Similar to a lot of cults they brand ex-members, or people who they believe ought to be in their group but who don’t subscribe to their views as enemies. So, for example, the Asian tech workers you mention in the post are operating under “white privilege”, and its not really their individual talents or individual gumption that got them jobs in Silicon Valley.

    I pity some of these PC types. They are creating a prison for their own minds. They will never feel free of self imposed oppression. Many of these people have college degrees and have opportunities to really thrive in our society, however because they believe they are less worth than others or part of some collective, and ‘oppressed’ they may never realize their dreams as individuals.

    • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:29 am #

      I pity some of these PC types. They are creating a prison for their own minds.
      They are evil. Let them suffer.

  20. PeteAtomic June 18, 2018 at 11:45 am #

    I think maybe a big factor (just a hypothesis) of this PC phenom is a desperate attempt for tenured professors in social science departments like Afro-American studies, Gay studies, etc. to legitimize their jobs & departments in the face of declining student enrollments on some campuses & less funds.

    So, if you create this movement where it is ‘racist’ or ‘homophobic’ to close certain departments, regardless of enrolment, you guarantee your job.

    Any merit to that theory?

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    • James Howard Kunstler June 18, 2018 at 11:52 am #

      A sound theory, IMO. — JHK

    • Walter B June 18, 2018 at 12:14 pm #

      It’s no theory Pete, it is fact. Me first, at your expense is the mantra of those that are in it for the cash and not the value to the system. They are the descendants of Snake Oil Salesmen to be sure.

    • draupnir June 18, 2018 at 1:11 pm #

      Did you ever try to get a job with a degree in Women’s studies, Afro-American studies, etc? Lots of Baristas and nurse’s aids paying off their school loans with jobs like that.

      • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 3:07 pm #

        Unfortunately, the same can be said for many other useful degrees as well. The one thing I remember from my MBA “experience” is that the primary value of a college degree of any type is as a signaling device for employers: a means to filter off the hoards that either couldn’t or wouldn’t bother. So much so that automated resumes are now the norm and just about specific searchable keywords. So much for “higher learning.”

        • draupnir June 18, 2018 at 3:46 pm #

          I always knew that you had to have the paper. Sadly, I misspent my youth engaged in somewhat more dubious, but highly lucrative pursuits.

          • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 5:26 pm #

            Good for you. How many times I wish these days that I’d have considered more seriously taking those roads not taken.

          • draupnir June 18, 2018 at 5:56 pm #

            Best time of my life!

        • Walter B June 18, 2018 at 4:21 pm #

          I was fortunate to have lived when I did because in the olden days, if you could convince an employer or a potential client that you could deliver on what you promised them you could do, you got the job or the work. Once everyone (or even too many) is/are required to have doctorate degrees in order to even be considered for a job, the degree become meaningless (except for the debt incurred getting it) and the next determining factor becomes who you know, not talent or ability. One of the most damning problems in our pigeon-holed society is that ability is not even a factor for the most part anymore and so those most able to do the best work are often not even in the ballpark. And then there is also the handing down of positions to incompetent relatives, right George Bush?

          • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 11:32 pm #

            Also Capitalism will self destruct if left to its own devices. Boston’s Big Dig was always behind schedule and always over budget. So the bidding for companies to deliver more for less was intense. So in the end, they did shoddy work with inferior concrete. It leaked! So governmental inefficiency met corporate corruption met governmental corruption (those that were supposed to oversee were probably paid not to see).

            Something changed. We could never have gotten this far like we are now. It didn’t use to be all about profit and nothing else.

          • Walter B June 19, 2018 at 8:06 am #

            It was greed Janos, greed destroys everything, especially in the Great Monopoly game of ours. Do you recall in history when the government actually broke up monopolies instead of getting onto their payrolls?

        • PeteAtomic June 18, 2018 at 9:23 pm #

          “The one thing I remember from my MBA “experience” is that the primary value of a college degree of any type is as a signaling device for employers: a means to filter off the hoards that either couldn’t or wouldn’t bother.”

          yeah, I’ve heard that many times myself. You are kind of an “in” guy now that you have a degree cuz it shows you tried.

          Many of the smartest people I’ve known never went to college. I don’t think it should be a prerequisite for anybody.

        • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:30 am #

          A job qualification test? IQ test. etc.

      • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:43 pm #

        It s AIDES.
        And that kind of money doesnt leave much for debt repayments.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 6:50 pm #

      No, because how did they get that far to begin with? Obviously the Way was made clear. Someone(s) very high up wants this shit.

      Consider Howard Zinn and his work of slander, “A People’s History of the United States. How did this work of evil get into every college in the land? Obviously a Conspiracy by those who hate the White West and wish to demoralize it out of existence. A Conspiracy by some very highly placed people. And it worked!

      Obviously in any America 2.0, we will not allow “freedom” for such cognitive cancer. That was our undoing this time around.

  21. wet dog June 18, 2018 at 11:49 am #

    The economic pie is shrinking at a rapid pace now, and the scraps of what’s left are being viciously fought over. Political Correctness, or tyranny with manners as Heston once put it, is the attempt by the incompetent and lazy to get their share of what’s left by screaming about “injustice”. When I hear “we need more diversity”, I immediately think quotas, and hiring the incompetent. That’s not going to last much longer as this implosion continues its acceleration.

    At points like this, I have very little warm feelings for many humans. I find far more enjoyment working my garden and talking to my gooses 🙂 They know there ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.

    • Farmer Joe June 18, 2018 at 11:58 am #

      ” They know there ain’t no such thing as a free lunch.”

      Tell that to my pigs!

      • GreenAlba June 18, 2018 at 12:13 pm #

        Don’t trust them – they’re watching you… 🙂


        • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 1:05 pm #

          NIce! At least he departed in a nourishing and environmentally free way! We could have used that idea a week or two back when we were discussing environmentally friendly means for corporeal remains disposal. We’ve been eating pigs for centuries, perhaps turn about should be fair play? Humans eating pigs who eat humans! What a concept!

          • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 3:08 pm #

            I wonder if that’s what they mean by the term “circle of life?”

          • GreenAlba June 18, 2018 at 3:23 pm #

            That was weird. I nearly wrote the same thing after your comment.

            I was going to say ‘the circle of life is a curly tale’ but wasn’t sure which spelling to use for my awful pun 🙂 .

            There’s a famous Yorkshire song , ‘On Ilkley Moor baht’at’ (means without a hat). Friend warned that if he went out hatless on the freezing moor they’d end up eating him (via worms eaten by ducks eaten by them). But in lots more verses…

          • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 5:21 pm #

            I was going to say ‘the circle of life is a curly tale’ but wasn’t sure which spelling to use for my awful pun ? .


          • Walter B June 18, 2018 at 9:10 pm #

            I prefer to refer to it as “The Circle Jerk of Life” Scratch.

        • Farmer Joe June 18, 2018 at 4:43 pm #

          That gives new meaning to, “he died doing what loved.”

          A while back I heard about a serial killer pig farmer who was feeding his victims to his hogs

        • SpeedyBB June 19, 2018 at 3:38 pm #

          This awful story confirms what I’ve heard about the Mafia: they feed their victims to pigs because the only indigestible item left over is human dentures.

          Imagine being a police investigator and you have to dig through loads of pig-shit for evidence. (Pardon my French.)

          • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:32 am #

            Pizza Gate. Jimmy or John had a pig farm or 2. That is factual.

            Lions Gate Entertainment has one in Canada????

  22. jbpowell June 18, 2018 at 11:50 am #

    What PC should really stand for is “protected class.” The topics include popular opinions about race, gender, politics, religion, social class, US history, multiculturalism, public education, and dozens of others that their supporters know could not withstand rigorous examination. To protect them from exposure, PC beliefs are placed above criticism.

    The weakest PC beliefs are now receiving even greater protection. On college campuses throughout the country, professors are loathe to use “trigger words” that might suggest that a popular belief isn’t correct. Oblique challenges to accepted dogma are also being called “micro aggressions.” The important role of a university to challenge students and invite discussion has been lost.

    The Most Biased Media In American History

    President Trump is correct that the national media is biased against him. But his presidency is only one of many topics that don’t get balanced coverage.

    The media will only support popular PC beliefs. Not even the Ted Talks or Quadriga will tackle the most controversial issues. If newspapers and TV news broadcasts stray from the PC credo, viewers complain bitterly to them and to their advertisers who pay for the programming.

    The best sources of information about current events that aren’t tainted by PC concerns will come from user-supported websites and publications such as Kunstler.com that do not depend upon advertising revenues.

    Likewise, on social media such as Facebook — that is ideally suited to hosting spirited discussions — most users are settling into groups of like-minded people who often form “safe spaces” to protect themselves from hearing any criticism of their beliefs.

    The fast-spreading trend towards online tribes is adding greatly to the deep divisions in America. It’s no wonder that our officials in Washington won’t compromise on any issue. No politician will risk expressing any doubt about the validity of a popular PC belief no matter how obviously false it may be.

    The biggest downside to the spread of PC dogma is it’s making many of America’s most serious problems nearly impossible to fix.

    • Exscotticus June 18, 2018 at 1:17 pm #

      >>> What PC should really stand for is “protected class.”

      Well said. I learn such great terminology on this forum.

    • Sean Coleman June 18, 2018 at 5:08 pm #

      Yes, pc is protected from criticism because it is impossible to defend objectively.

      I haven’t noticed the two online tribes, but I don’t look around social media. On blogs it seems to be a choice between orthodox Left and blogs where a number of the posters are conservative but share the space with liberal zealots.

      TED talks. I don’t know what these are really but every one I have seen with very few exceptions has been complete rubbish, conventional (liberal) opinions dressed up as something novel, exciting and dangerous. Rupert Sheldrake gave a TED talk but it was pulled by TED. Wikipedia cannot even bring itself to acknowledge that he is a scientist, but Wiki is a subject in its own right. See Sheldrake’s website for the activities of the Guerrilla Skeptics group who patrol Wiki for heresy: https://www.sheldrake.org/about-rupert-sheldrake/blog/wikipedia-under-threat

      I don’t think many people understand just how Wiki is used to enforce stupid conventional wisdom. The Guerrilla Skeptics give the wrong impression, however, because as in all walks of life the imposition of pc (including its war on what it deems ‘pseudoscience’, a parallel to its war on ‘fake news’ and ‘climate denial’ for example) is overwhelmingly by self-censorship.

      Talking of the pc intolerance of ‘pseudoscience’, this is just one of its many facets, all intolerant, towards everything. Stephen Fry, for example, who chairs (or chaired) a popular general knowledge quiz on the BBC, once looked straight into the camera and told psychics that they were all frauds and they were to stop it. Now. This is just reason why it struck me as odd to see him on the same side as Peterson in the debate. I mentioned already his opposition to Pope Benedict’s visit to Britain on specious grounds (the Pope is a ‘head of state’ apparently and this makes all the differernce), while his highly critical documentary about gay people in Russia some years ago coincided (at least to my mind) with the renewal of Russophobia. He is also a well-known supporter of Norwich City FC and one reason I dislike that football club.

      • Sean Coleman June 18, 2018 at 5:19 pm #

        While I am on about Sheldrake, another aspect of pc is its intolerance of those who do not share its atheism. This is another interesting article from his website


        about his involvement in a tv documentary made by Richard Dawkins.

        “The Director asked us to stand facing each other; we were filmed with a hand-held camera. Richard began by saying that he thought we probably agreed about many things, “But what worries me about you is that you are prepared to believe almost anything. Science should be based on the minimum number of beliefs.”

        “I agreed that we had a lot in common, “But what worries me about you is that you come across as dogmatic, giving people a bad impression of science.”

        “He then said that in a romantic spirit he himself would like to believe in telepathy, but there just wasn’t any evidence for it. He dismissed all research on the subject out of hand. He compared the lack of acceptance of telepathy by scientists such as himself with the way in which the echo-location system had been discovered in bats, followed by its rapid acceptance within the scientific community in the 1940s. In fact, as I later discovered, Lazzaro Spallanzani had shown in 1793 that bats rely on hearing to find their way around, but sceptical opponents dismissed his experiments as flawed, and helped set back research for well over a century. However, Richard recognized that telepathy posed a more radical challenge than echo-location. He said that if it really occurred, it would “turn the laws of physics upside down,” and added, “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”

        “”This depends on what you regard as extraordinary”, I replied. “Most people say they have experienced telepathy, especially in connection with telephone calls. In that sense, telepathy is ordinary. The claim that most people are deluded about their own experience is extraordinary. Where is the extraordinary evidence for that?”

        “He produced no evidence at all, apart from generic arguments about the fallibility of human judgment. He assumed that people want to believe in “the paranormal” because of wishful thinking.

        “We then agreed that controlled experiments were necessary. I said that this was why I had actually been doing such experiments, including tests to find out if people really could tell who was calling them on the telephone when the caller was selected at random. The results were far above the chance level.

        “The previous week I had sent Richard copies of some of my papers, published in peer-reviewed journals, so that he could look at the data.

        “Richard seemed uneasy and said, “I don’t want to discuss evidence”. “Why not?” I asked. “There isn’t time. It’s too complicated. And that’s not what this programme is about.” The camera stopped.

        “The Director, Russell Barnes, confirmed that he too was not interested in evidence. The film he was making was another Dawkins polemic.

        “I said to Russell, “If you’re treating telepathy as an irrational belief, surely evidence about whether it exists or not is essential for the discussion. If telepathy occurs, it’s not irrational to believe in it. I thought that’s what we were going to talk about. I made it clear from the outset that I wasn’t interested in taking part in another low grade debunking exercise.”

        “Richard said, “It’s not a low grade debunking exercise; it’s a high grade debunking exercise.”

        “In that case, I replied, there had been a serious misunderstanding, because I had been led to believe that this was to be a balanced scientific discussion about evidence. Russell Barnes asked to see the emails I had received from his assistant. He read them with obvious dismay, and said the assurances she had given me were wrong. The team packed up and left.

        “Richard Dawkins has long proclaimed his conviction that “The paranormal is bunk. Those who try to sell it to us are fakes and charlatans”. Enemies of Reason was intended to popularize this belief. But does his crusade really promote “the public understanding of science,” of which he is the professor at Oxford? Should science be a vehicle of prejudice, a kind of fundamentalist belief-system? Or should it be a method of enquiry into the unknown?”

        There is a video on YT of a mocking interview of Dawkins by Ben Stein (he plays the boring economics teacher in Ferris Bueller’s Day Off). One poster complained that Dawkins had been set up; I referred him to the above.

        Pc is not just intolerant and stupid, it is also dishonest.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 6:57 pm #

          Likewise, many people know there is life after death. Patients report leaving their bodies while in the operating room and then telling the doctor and nurses what they were doing. But it makes people uncomfortable so they learn quickly to shut up about it.

          Anyone who doubts can just ask a nurse who is perhaps a little more open, perhaps because of religious belief. Likewise, ask a daycare worker about the difference in races. How little East Asian children are quiet and complaint and Black children hyper-active and aggressive. Innate and genetic. Two races that should never have to share the same space.

          • sprawlcapital June 18, 2018 at 7:42 pm #

            complaint [compliant]
            “Innate and genetic . . . ”

            There may be something to this. My wife has been substitute teaching for several months and has observed such differences. We put it down (attribute) it to differences in parenting, but it may be more than that.

          • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 9:52 am #

            “But it makes people uncomfortable so they learn quickly to shut up about it.”



          • Tate June 20, 2018 at 3:57 pm #

            It’s “rubbish,” GA?

            Weren’t you the one who was posting recently about a strange experience that you have never talked about to anyone? It seems likely you’re not alone in this reluctance. And therefore, many out-of-body experiences — which certainly qualify as ‘strange’ — likely go unreported.

          • GreenAlba June 20, 2018 at 4:36 pm #

            Tate, you are altogether too eager to jump on my comments.

            I didn’t say the phenomenon was ‘rubbish’, I said Janos’ comment that people shut up about it was rubbish.

            It’s a well known phenomenon. And you can’t shut people up about it – if it happens to them they will talk about it forever 🙂 .

            There is no evidence that there’s anything paranormal about it. But then there wouldn’t be, because by definition there’s never been any evidence about anything paranormal.

            Because if there was any evidence on offer, you’d have to call it ‘normal’. Or at least ‘natural’, as opposed to ‘supernatural’.

          • Tate June 20, 2018 at 5:45 pm #

            GA, by definition, how would you know about things that nobody talks about? And I understood perfectly well that you were referring to Janos’s comment that this goes unreported, not the phenomenon itself. See my last sentence.

            What about out-of-body experiences do you find so objectionable? It’s possibly the soul longing for the familiar, afraid to go on to the next world. It could be regret, or simple nostalgia. It could be fear, certainly, or a desire to rejoice at the anticipated transition, or a combination of all of these.

          • GreenAlba June 20, 2018 at 6:41 pm #


            “What about out-of-body experiences do you find so objectionable? ”

            Where did I say it was objectionable? It’s a recognised phenomenon. Why would it be good or bad?

            You can believe whatever you want about it or make it mean whatever you choose. I’m not arguing with you.

            I’m just saying it’s something that pretty much everyone is familiar with as a phenomenon and I’ve read and heard about lots of examples of it. The idea that it’s been covered up or people don’t want to talk about it is bizarre.

            There was a time when it was the new big thing and everyone was ooh-ing and aah-ing about it and then they moved on to the next thing. You’ll read less about it because that’s the way ‘news’ works.

          • Tate June 20, 2018 at 8:03 pm #

            Has anybody here claimed there is a cover-up? I can’t find that in the comments above. A lot of people might not want to talk about it, especially if they were atheists. It’s true that it received a lot of attention at one point in the popular press, but how many others have been reluctant to talk about it? I find it reasonable that there would be some. Just as with yourself, many of that persuasion might not want to even admit to having such an inexplicable experience.

          • GreenAlba June 21, 2018 at 4:31 am #


            OK, I see you’re not going to let go…

            So, cover-up was a loose use of language -my apologies – although ‘quickly learning to shut up about it’ implies similar imperatives.

            I’ve never heard of such a thing making people feel uncomfortable. People are falling over themselves to tell stories like this when they happen or think they happen.

            The dumber TV channels over here show stories about Haunted Houses. I assume there’s an audience.

            If I had an out-of-body experience I’d be telling everyone I knew.

            But nothing remotely like that has ever happened to me.

          • GreenAlba June 21, 2018 at 5:13 am #

            *or they think they happen*

          • GreenAlba June 21, 2018 at 6:26 am #

            PS there’s no evidence the experience is paranormal, so no reason for an atheist (which I’m not – I think agnostic is the fairer term for my position) to be shy about it.

            As I understand it, research is being done on the phenomenon, as it is on most things of this nature if they seem to have any basis in actual experience. Wiki says it’s being done by both scientific researchers and ‘paranormal’ researchers, so I guess we’ll just have to wait and see if anything comes out of it on either side. In the meantime, people are free to make of it what they will.

          • GreenAlba June 21, 2018 at 6:27 am #

            PS delete ‘Wiki’ reference as applicable. Some people think they have an agenda, so if you’re one of those, that’s also you’re right.

        • SpeedyBB June 19, 2018 at 3:56 pm #

          Sheldrake is a classic example of a ‘thorn in the foot’ of the fundamentalist scientists – and for that reason is a particular target of their energetic denunciations.

          The history of science, with its manifold false starts and stops, should be warning enough not to dismiss out of hand phenomena which do not conform to conventional standards of testing (repeatability, sterile conditions, etc.) The Soviets certainly didn’t, as a cursory scan of internet sites on KGB research into the paranormal (and UFO phenomena) will reveal. They did not allow convention, religion or established vested interests to get in their way.

          Admittedly, the results were inconclusive and uncontrollable. Nevertheless the effort stands as evidence that at least some smart folk think it is worth dedicating study to, as opposed to heaping scorn upon.

          • GreenAlba June 20, 2018 at 3:41 pm #

            It’s worth reading the other side though, regarding Sheldrake and the so-called Wikipedia conspiracy theories, at the very least.


            There’s also a mention of Sheldrake in this article on Deepak Chopra (celebrated and very rich purveyor of woo to the middle classes needing to be relieved of their angst and their cash) because some of their ‘arguments’ overlap.


            Me, I’m saying nut’n… just putting it out there in the interests of anti-political correctness, which requires scepticism, I believe. No point in just swapping one kind of PC for another.

          • Sean Coleman June 20, 2018 at 4:43 pm #


            Sheldrake has a very good grasp of the history and philosophy of science. Scientific materialism only became the orthodoxy towards the end of the 19thC. His experiments have a 60% success rate in normal conditions, which he argues is very significant indeed statistically.

            What I am highlighting here is the intolerance and dishonesty of politicial correctness. (Polish thinker Krzystof Karon (Historia Sztuk) dismisses the term as childish and calls it cultural terrorism.) It is obvious in many fields but I am just talking about science here. AGW is a glaring example of these traits. Donna Laframboise, a Canadian journalist, did some terrific research into the IPCC and shows how it has repeatedly disgraced itself with its false claims.

            Another interesting example is Dr Andrew Wakefield. Few people realize (because it was not widely reported, although the Guardian did cover it) that his colleague in his work, the world’s leading authority in his field, Prof John Walker-Smith was also struck off by the General Medical Council on similar charges to Wakefield’s. He won his appeal and the judgment was extraordinary: in the longest case in the GMC’s history, and with that body’s enormous reputation at stake, the GMC was found not to have taken due account of WS’s expert counsel and to have used ‘wrong reasoning’ (ie drawing the wrong conclusion).

            Sticking to science, we see the rise of new medical conditions such as dyslexia and attention deficit disorder, which are merely labels attached to normal behaviour: illiteracy and short attention span.

            Another area again is that of natural vision improvement (the Bates Method, named after the great American eye-doctor of the early 20thC). This is routinely discredited by most medical authorities (to say nothing of Wiki: Argumentum Ad Wikipediam is almost a logical fallacy), but not by a significant minority. An interesting coincidence is that of the 19thC German scientist Wilhelm(?) Helmholtz, who gave us our present orthodox understanding of the working of the eye and who was also highly influential in establishing the theory of the conservation of energy and the ascendancy of scientific materialism in general.

            And I mentioned the Guerrilla Skeptics above. They argue, in their ignorant, simplistic way, that because theories that do not have ‘evidence’ (as defined by themselves) should be eradicated and act accordingly.

          • GreenAlba June 20, 2018 at 5:58 pm #

            Thank you, Mr C, for swooping in as quickly as I thought you would 🙂 .

            As I said, I’m saying nothing on the matter. I just think alternative points of view should be put out there when people with particular agendas put forward theirs and others perhaps haven’t seen the background. I’m sure you agree. The thrust of the article was to point out that it WASN’T the Guerilla Skeptics who edited the entry on Sheldrake.

            Anyway, I don’t particularly care what people think of Sheldrake or Wikipedia – nor do I have any wish to waste time on any of your other very regular agendas, but on a point of simple logic, there was something niggly last week that I really tried to avoid, in the hope that someone else would pick it up instead.

            I guess they were all pretending not to notice, for their own reasons. Or else they weren’t paying attention. I can think of at least two who wouldn’t have let me away with such a contradiction, but there we are.

            So, as I said, I don’t want to enter into any kind of discussion, but your clarification would be appreciated on the following:

            In one of your regular attacks on people who don’t consider self-evident what you yourself do, you said,

            [Sean Coleman June 9, 2018 at 9:29 am]

            [Religion] is neither a ‘need’ nor a ‘prerequisite’ nor an ‘instinct’ …nor anything else like that.”

            However, the religion that was ‘[not] a need’ at 9.29 a.m. on 9th June was, confusingly, ‘Man’s great religious need’ a mere four posts further up at 1.41 p.m. on 8th June.

            I don’t know what happened in between and I take no position on the matter, but something does appear to have changed overnight in terms of human psychology.

            Again, without wishing to pronounce either way myself, you did make both contradictory points quite forcefully, so it would be good to have a final decision on the matter, given the implications.

            Thank you.

          • Sean Coleman June 21, 2018 at 12:26 pm #


            Summoned (to quote John Banville) one shuffles guiltily into the Department of Trivia.

            What I was trying to say by ‘deep religious need’ is that religion is something vitally important to Man that cannot be ignored. When I wrote this

            “It is neither a ‘need’ nor a ‘prerequisite’ nor an ‘instinct’ nor a ‘by-product’ nor a ‘fairy tale’ involving childish imagery of bearded men sitting on heavenly thrones nor a ‘construct of a repressive patriarchy’ nor a ‘superstition’ born out of the fear of crop failure’ nor a ‘conspiracy by the One Percent’ nor a ‘hoax’ concocted by randy cult leaders nor an ‘evolutionary conditioned tool to reinforce group identity against the Other’ nor anything else like that.”

            it was meant in a more limited sense, as a biological or psychological need.

            “Anyway, I don’t particularly care what people think of Sheldrake or Wikipedia – nor do I have any wish to waste time on any of your other very regular agendas, but on a point of simple logic, there was something niggly last week that I really tried to avoid, in the hope that someone else would pick it up instead.

            “I guess they were all pretending not to notice, for their own reasons. Or else they weren’t paying attention. I can think of at least two who wouldn’t have let me away with such a contradiction, but there we are.”

            Perhaps they were indeed pretending not to notice or not paying attention. And perhaps they had something better to do.

            You first accost me in the guise of an overexcited teenage SJW for my ‘disgraceful’ defence of Savile.

            You later diagnose my defence of Weinstein as a secret desire to assault those women myself – all from behind the shield of a pseudonym.

            Then it’s your husband (the doctor), the dyslexic who yet can read me under the table.

            And his new friend the brilliant medical author.

            Aggravating readers with anecdotes about Nero fiddling while Rome burnt. No, really? Did he?

            Affecting an unearned air of moral superiority towards others here (and their country) who don’t share your absolute conviction that your own naïve views are self-evidently correct. There are some clever people here, some with experience of life, others are more modest. One or two are probably insane. Yet they all stand head and shoulders above you, particularly in terms of honesty and self-awareness.

            Without insight you insist on littering the board with dull commonplaces, statements of the obvious, in leaden prose. The same arch prose as your favourite female columnists in the Guardian, who hide their meaning in strategically deployed, impenetrable and deniable syntax, while exuding censure of everyone but themselves.

            It’s like trying to watch a football match when someone comes in and you have to spend the next twenty minutes explaining the offside rule.

            I have no reason to exchange ideas with you. You don’t reason, you don’t look anything in depth. I don’t think you are able.

          • GreenAlba June 21, 2018 at 1:19 pm #

            Mr Coleman

            “Then it’s your husband (the doctor)…”

            This must be at least the fifth time you have used this phrase. How old are you – five?

            “And his new friend the brilliant medical author.”

            And still no memory or attention to detail. I did not describe the author as brilliant and my husband had never met him. He lives in the US. As I told you the last time when you said the same silly thing. I suspect you pasted that from your last rebuttal.

            “Aggravating readers with anecdotes about Nero fiddling while Rome burnt. No, really? Did he?”

            No, he didn’t. As we ALL knew. You are getting desperate now.

            “Affecting an unearned air of moral superiority towards others here…’

            Now that’s really funny coming from someone who affects -sometimes implicitly, but often explicitly – complete disdain for the views of anyone who doesn’t accept the SELF-EVIDENT truth of everything he says.

            “There are some clever people here, some with experience of life, others are more modest.”

            Quite. But not you. You made us aware of your love of boasting last week. And it was *school*. Really.

            My ‘favourite female columnists on the Guardian’? Even I don’t know who they’re supposed to be, but you’re the expert on telepathy and other such phenomena, so I guess you’d know. Please do pass on their names. Oh, wait, you won’t need to, will you?

            “I have no reason to exchange ideas with you.”

            No you don’t. I’ve read them all because they get recycled endlessly, with the same assumption of self-evident accuracy mentioned above. I could write them myself.

            And if I want Peter Hitchens’ ideas I can get them straight from the horse’s mouth. And in less leaden prose. At least the man can write.

          • Sean Coleman June 21, 2018 at 3:47 pm #


            So Nero didn’t fiddle after all? You really ARE that stupid.

            You are just sore that I told you off, again. The last time was when you lost it and claimed I knew nothing about science (this from the doctor’s wife who complains when others make assumptions). It is futile pointing out your hypocrisy.

            The time before that was when I told you off because you had asked me (as I thought sincerely) for advice for your bipolar husband and then it turns out it was just your tiresome archness again.

            Now, why are you reading my repetitive posts endlessly? I have no difficulty at all skipping past yours, as agreed. You have nothing to offer but dull rhetoric and links to Wikipedia.

            I have done my best to avoid and ignore you, but you have behaved childishly and rudely from the very start, forcing yourself where you are not wanted, and have only yourself to blame.

            By the way, must you indulge in so much arse-licking here? Haven’t you got any self respect?

            Act your age.

          • GreenAlba June 21, 2018 at 4:56 pm #

            Re Nero, I’m sorry I don’t get your point. There were suggestions that he may have been ‘fiddling’ in the sense of being less than effective. My understanding is that this wasn’t in fact the case and that any such claims would likely have been propaganda, but I’m happy to be corrected. Fiddling in the other sense was, as you know, not possible at that time.

            “I have done my best to avoid and ignore you”

            But you don’t. You couldn’t even leave a post that wasn’t addressed to you that did nothing more than offer another side to your repetitive whining about the injustices heaped upon the martyred Rupert Sheldrake. I didn’t even say anything about Sheldrake’s hypotheses, but it seemed clear from the article that the editing didn’t happen in the way you insisted, and it seemed unfair not to present the facts regarding that editing.

            But you can’t respond to one issue without adding an endless list of your hobby horses, which include dyslexia, ADHD, Jimmy Savile, #MeToo, Andrew Wakefield, climate change, homosexuality, transgender people and people who have the temerity not to accept Chrisitianity as if it were a self-evident reality. At least we weren’t invited again to imagine Savile walking through walls – that one’s wearing thin.

            Bipolar disorder? Doesn’t exist.
            Child abuse? Doesn’t exist – or hardly.
            Child abuse within the RC Church? Couldn’t possibly exist.
            AGW? Doesn’t exist (and your backup in this is a journalist with a degree in – wait for it – Women’s Studies. It would be funny if it weren’t so tragic).

            And your ‘arguments’ are always presented with that condescending tone and assertions that you, Sean Coleman, have debunked everything and how could any of the silly people possibly believe any of these silly things? The testimony of every single women involved in the #MeToo movement (which I don’t discuss) is either an exaggeration or a downright lie. Or your favourite word, a fantasy.

            Any testimony by a woman you don’t approve of is ‘without merit’. Why? Because Sean Coleman looked into it and found it to be so.

            But, bizarrely, nobody’s allowed to even suggest that your beliefs might be a fantasy – and I think that basic problem is at the root of all your issues.

            I do find myself wondering how many hours you’ve put into meticulously analysing the testimony of the girls abused by the Rotherham and Newcastle grooming gangs, but I suppose I shouldn’t doubt your even-handedness in these matters. I’m sure those men got equal amounts of your time trying to disprove the testimony of the girls as ‘fantasy’.

            “By the way, must you indulge in so much arse-licking here? Haven’t you got any self respect?”

            Oops, Going off message again. I thought I was supposed to be disagreeing with people who knew so much more than I did.

            Still, it’s better than being asked to stop stalking people. I enjoyed that exchange immensely. You just won’t give up until you’re told to go away. Repeatedly.

          • Sean Coleman June 21, 2018 at 5:29 pm #


            I did not read your last comment, only glanced through it.

            I posted a response to SpeedyBB about Sheldrake and was ignoring your own input. This was a little side conversation in an obscure corner of the blog, but you stick your nose in wherever it is not wanted. I repeat that I avoid you as much as possible.

            Now I have set out my views about you above, quite clearly and in some detail, explaining why I hold you in such low estimation. Leaving aside the stupidity and dishonesty, it boils down to the fact that you do not behave yourself in public, probably because you cannot control yourself. (I thought you might be able to mind your own business last time I spoke to you a week ago, and if you had been able you might have recovered your position somewhat. But you could not.)

            The problem is that you do not think your rudeness is an issue that you need to address and take responsibility for. I will try to ignore you as before (where possible) to avoid being drawn into an futile exchange of insults, which would not do me any good. (When they insult you here it is done with some élan and even enjoyable in its own way. I’m afraid you can’t do that either.)

            It is a strange sensation having to chide another poster on a blog and not something I have ever had to do before, and even odder when it is a woman of mature years. There is something wrong about this. If you look around here the exchanges are civilized and that, plus the quality and diverstiy of the posts, is what attracted me here in the first place. I am afraid you stand out like a sore thumb.

            Now my remarks have been addressed to you directly and personally. You know that they are true and your attempts to rebut or deflect them are just attempts to save face, and pretty incoherent at that. I expect you do have a sense of shame but pretend to yourself that somehow you have been wronged. Well that is your problem, I am glad to say, and not mine.

            I don’t intend afflicting Mr Kunstler’s blog with any more of this futile exchange and will leave it there. You know what I think of you, and why. Post away (if you must) if that is the only way you can deal with it, but I won’t be reading.

          • GreenAlba June 21, 2018 at 5:45 pm #

            “I posted a response to SpeedyBB about Sheldrake and was ignoring your own input.”

            Of course you were. .

            “I did not read your last comment, only glanced through it.”


            “You know what I think of you, and why. ”

            Likewise again, Mr Coleman.

  23. amb June 18, 2018 at 12:06 pm #

    American universities (under the control of “Progressive” Liberals) are a breeding ground for Socialism, Immorality, Robotism and most every other disease that can degrade a country and its population. Education in our country has become a MAJOR failure.

  24. Walter B June 18, 2018 at 12:10 pm #

    PC and the SJW’s, two of my favorite plagues upon society! I could never say enough about the injustice and hidden degradation that the SJS’s bring about as they force their PC agenda upon a citizenry too tired and too afraid to fight it. Nobody get offended – bullshit, there is even more offense given and taken under the assault of this diseased movement.

    The basic problem comes from leadership, or rather, the lack thereof. During hard or difficult times or when faced by problems of serious nature, strong leadership is required and the lack of it always results in defeat or failure. It is during times of peace and affluence that strong leadership becomes unwanted by the happy crowd and so the system replaces them with cheerleaders instead of real leaders. America has had cheerleaders now for so long that have forgotten what real leaders even look like. Unfortunately, since we shall probably not be getting any anytime soon, calamity may be our future rather than recovery.

    In either case. rising up against the SJW’s and PC is a movement that I will gladly follow our leader here, Big Jim! Attack!

  25. volodya June 18, 2018 at 12:13 pm #

    Yeah, it’s about coercion. Coercion is a tool, but the objective is money, power as the means to get money.

    So how do you get there? Partly by redefining what words mean. When they say “diversity” do they mean “diversity”, or fo they mean “conformity”? “Diversity” has a nice ring to it. “Conformity” doesn’t.

    “Diversity” implies you can be who you are, you can be what you want to be. It implies you can say what you want to say, an accommodative society, welcoming to widely varying personalities and behaviors.

    “Conformity”, on the other hand, is stifling. It implies a limited set of allowable behaviors and views and words.

    Do you remember the generations from the 1920s and 1930s?

    My earliest recollections come from the Eisenhower era. How did people act and speak? Was it the conformist time that the 1960s generation say it was? Was it the time of the “organization man”? Well, yeah, I would say there ‘s more than a pinch of truth to that characterization. Gender roles were more rigidly defined, behavioral strictures more strictly enforced. And, on Sundays, the churches were full to bursting. If you wanted a seat, you had to get to there a full half hour ahead of time or you’d be standing at the back.

    In that era, men and women didn’t live together, they got married, that is, if they wanted to be regarded as respectable people.

    In those days, if you got pregnant out of wedlock you were a fallen woman, you went to a home for un-wed mothers, you were a disgrace, a family embarrassment, you were ostracized.

    So, tell me, when they say “diversity” nowadays, what does the speaker actually mean? Do they actually mean “conformity.”

    Are we still in the Eisenhower mode of regulating speech and dress and behavior? I would say there are real similarities. In the 1950s, to use two examples, disgrace was the consequence of un-married co-habitation, public shame to unwed motherhood.

    And now? With respect to shacking-up, you can’t utter a peep. With respect to single motherhood, the definition – and you are not allowed to put it in any other terms – is of the heroic single mom. To do otherwise is to impose a harsh judgment, one that impinges on the social standing and self-esteem of the individual in question.

    And never mind the calamitous consequences that typically attach to single motherhood, for the mother, the offspring and the local community. In the 1950s you weren’t allowed destructive behavior without attracting strong objection. Nowadays you’re allowed to behave in a destructive manner, but nobody is allowed to object. Is anyone allowed to say a word about ruinous behaviors in black communities? Are you allowed to say anything about alcohol and drug abuse other than these are diseases?

    But there are real differences between the two eras. In the “organization man” era, the objective was to unite and rule, to draw in a critical mass of people by means of persuasion if possible,
    to go along willingly with the dictates of the ruling class of the era.

    Not now. This time in history it’s the opposite, not to unite and rule, but to DIVIDE and rule, to set up societal groups in opposition to one another, to minimize the economic or political power of any one group, to more easily enable their manipulation.

    Coercion is a tool, but the objective is power and money, power as the means to get money.

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    • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 7:00 pm #

      Yes, Diversity means No Diversity, just like Orwell’s Freedom is Slavery. And not just at the cognitive or ideological level, even the diversity of races which they laud is not something they really want, but rather wish to eliminate by close proximity and inter-breeding.

      • draupnir June 19, 2018 at 12:07 am #

        You do know that 2-4% of our DNA is Neanderthal don’t you. That’s not even the same species, by the way, though close enough to breed true. Black Africans are the only ones free of this taint.. Apparently, our ancestors were miscegenating like crazy. I suspect that due to the dangers of childbirth there were probably not enough women to go around most of the time and males without went on raids to acquire more. A time honored practice, right up to this day, where farm boys in China who can’t find an available women go to the nearest city to steal one for themselves. I like to think that rather than driving them to extinction we simply subsumed the Neanderthals, to the improvement of the species, by the way..

        • SpeedyBB June 19, 2018 at 4:04 pm #

          I’m in Vietnam at the moment, draupnir, and can report that there is considerable hostility about the Chinese kidnap gangs that cross over the (rather porous) border to abduct young Vietnamese women, who are then dragooned into forced marriages with Chinese men.

          It’s apparently quite a going business: not enough women in China (and many smart enough to fend for themselves and avoid unwanted entanglements) and too many poor folk in Vietnam.

          • draupnir June 19, 2018 at 5:33 pm #

            Are those girls being sold by their families?

          • draupnir June 19, 2018 at 5:43 pm #

            Women’s rights do tend to go right out the window as soon as there aren’t enough vaginas to go around. They suddenly find themselves a valuable commodity.

        • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:44 pm #

          Race mixing involves travel. There was not that much travel happening, was there?

  26. FincaInTheMountains June 18, 2018 at 12:14 pm #

    Huge responsibility lies with those who thoughtlessly apply the laws of democracy, bringing political correctness to the limit of reasonable.

    The political correctness introduced by the Clintons to shut the mouths to all those who could start criticizing them on their merits, rather than on topics chosen by them, turned out to be a terrible venom that poisoned political life in the United States.

    And the so-called “issues” – secondary problems that came to the fore in the 90s due to the fact that in the era of political correctness, the traditional political philosophies of both Republicans and Democrats that existed before the collapse of the USSR turn out to be castrated.

    The current popularity of Trump is largely due to the fact that he was the first to argue very reasonably at the first presidential debate that it is political correctness that makes it impossible to discuss really important issues.

    And political correctness collapsed, and the establishment of both parties was in the position of a “naked king.”

    • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 3:13 pm #

      The current popularity of Trump is largely due to the fact that he was the first to argue very reasonably at the first presidential debate that it is political correctness that makes it impossible to discuss really important issues.

      Very true. Too bad that, so far at least, Trump hasn’t mounted a legitimate alternative, other than a lot of bloviating.

      • JohnAZ June 18, 2018 at 3:59 pm #

        The only way Trump can get his points across is by being more obnoxious than the teeming masses he deals with. Who better to cancel the stamp of the Swamp that a blowhard from Queens NewYork.

        • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 5:19 pm #

          He’s their perfect foil, as his entire life has been lived in opposition to old school east coast money. He desperately wanted (past tense) to be a part of their club, something which they’ll never allow.

      • Walter B June 18, 2018 at 9:17 pm #

        I always felt that what Donald Trump was able to do from the moment that he stepped onto the platform, was to clearly show how totally worthless all of the other “candidates” were. I am not saying that he proved how suitable HE was for the job, just that ALL others on either side of the red/blue paradigm were immediately exposed as worthless crap. The fact that they all assaulted him immediately made it clear, at least to me, that if they all hated him that much, I simply HAD to vote for him. I simply cannot and have never cast a vote for anyone because somebody told me I had to because I was a member of some sacred club or something. Trump is pissing them all off? Good for him, keep it up.

        • Tate June 18, 2018 at 11:20 pm #

          That was such an endorphin pump. Alas, we will likely never see its like again.

        • SpeedyBB June 19, 2018 at 4:18 pm #

          Weren’t those debates electrifying, Walter B!? That incestuous clown-car of sad sacks got up-ended when The Donald said baldly ‘They lied to us about the Iraq War’.

          ‘You can’t say that!’ somebody bawled. He was so out of order it was compelling to watch. Talk about a black pig I mean swan.

  27. Sean Coleman June 18, 2018 at 12:16 pm #

    How on earth did this idiocy become conventional wisdom? I wish I hadn’t binned my copy of Stupid White Men, along with a progressive 70s cult novel called The Diceman and a degenerate and amazingly badly written progressive Danish book I had bought second-hand.

    We have had Ms for a good while. Why didn’t they just extend Mrs to all women over 21 as at least you can pronounce it? I remember partner coming in (in Ireland) in the mid-nineties for husband and wife. Judgmental had become popular in London by 1970, when I was twelve. Relevant a couple of years later. Reactionary, on the other hand was only used in history books, to describe the repressive the governments of Russia, Prussia and Austria after the Treaty of Vienna; its odd revival by Left is surely very recent. (Similarly the word cool was excruciatigly un-cool in my time but it is now used everywhere (not by me of course.) Reactionaries indeed.

    In the build-up to the Marriage Equality Referendum a couple of years ago (our proudest day in history until the recent abortion result) Irish journalist John Waters was accused of ‘homophobia’ on live television, got damages from the state broadcaster and amid storms of protest left his paper (the Irish Times, ‘the paper of record’), his weekly column and his profession, which he now justifiably despises. In fact, he had only ever written, in passing, about homosexuality a couple of times over the years, and then not as imagined. Next he looked through the newspaper’s archives and found that transgender rights, which the Liberals have been bravely struggling over long years to achieve, had not even got a mention until mere months before. He was one of the last independent, critical journalists we had.

    Ideas that are now mainstream would have been considered quite beyond the pale mere five or ten, let alone twenty, years ago. Peter Hitchens, a former Trotskyist, says that the present Conservative government holds policies that would have made even him and his revolutionary comrades uneasy.

    I watched this video a few weeks ago. I was puzzled to see Stephen Fry on the same side of the debate as Peterson since he has long been a darling of the Liberals. He made a documentary about Russia a few years ago attacking its treatment of gay rights (he is gay). Things must have got bad. Known for his plummy posh diction he was a signatory, along with various other fairly obscure illuminati, of a notorious letter to the newspapers calling for Pope Benedict to be prevented from visiting Britain, on the spurious grounds (as I recall) that the Pope is a head of state. (I looked up the other signatories, a strange collection of eccentrics and oddballs.) Fry was once memorably described as ‘the stupid person’s idea of what an intelligent person is like’. He has nothing to add to the debate. The two on the other side had only rhetoric. I was surprised how (relatively) well they behaved themselves.

    The argument that pc is just being polite took me aback when I first heard it. How could anyone even suggest such a silly thing? I, like most, just use pc as the handiest term to describe a self-contradictory set of untried new values, many of them unhinged, at root defining themselves by what they oppose (Christianity notably) which are being foisted onto people, who do not want them because they can see that they are insane and will lead to chaos. This nonsense will not stop until they have ruined everything and they will keep on going even then.

  28. shabbaranks June 18, 2018 at 12:21 pm #

    Trump will be re-elected in 2020.

    • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 1:06 pm #

      It’s trending that way!

      • Walter B June 18, 2018 at 2:41 pm #

        I do not believe that this is in Hillary’s or Michelle Obama’s plan.

        • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 3:16 pm #

          All the better!

        • PeteAtomic June 18, 2018 at 9:29 pm #

          ha ha!

  29. mow June 18, 2018 at 12:22 pm #

    ” What we’ve got here is a failure to communicate. “

  30. Tate June 18, 2018 at 12:40 pm #


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    • Tate June 18, 2018 at 12:40 pm #

      Wow, does that mean I can get my comment in now?

      • Tate June 18, 2018 at 12:46 pm #

        >peakfuture: “Are there any folks on the left that are making rational arguments on these points, without the name calling?”


        >Since she’s also a trans woman with a philosophy degree, this will be a useful filter to find out who can look past the trappings and deal with her genuine arguments.

        I’m trying really hard to be fair so I listened for about 16 minutes & I think I’m beginning to understand now why Anthony Bourdain killed himself.

        • shabbaranks June 18, 2018 at 1:51 pm #


  31. Jigplate June 18, 2018 at 12:59 pm #

    “…a squishy, mischievous category which obviously doesn’t count Chinese grad students at Harvard or the Asian-Indians in the Silicon Valley C-suites — and demands reparations of one kind or another.”

    Nor does it count the Asian students in NYC’s highly selective high schools. NYC mayor Bill Deblasio recently opined :

    “Can anyone defend this? Can anyone look the parent of a Latino or black child in the eye and tell them their precious daughter or son has an equal chance to get into one of their city’s best high schools? Can anyone say this is the America we signed up for?”

    This is the classic “diversity hustle”- what Jordan Peterson calls the “unholy trinity” of diversity, equity and inclusion. Diblasio makes the common error of most diversity hustlers, in that he conflates equity of opportunity with equity of outcome. I personally know and have spoken to several teachers in NYC’s most prestigious specialty high schools, and according to them, if this proposal goes through, it will be the end of any “prestige” that these schools posess.

    I think that it is telling , that the very last student of my “edumacation” career, is a young man – one of Diblasio’s “opressed” , “precious sons” who couldnt be bothered to show up to my class more than a dozen times since last September. Today I was “asked” to help him make up work so that he could graduate. In reality, this will not help him at all. It will only serve to help the school’s graduation statistics.

  32. newworld June 18, 2018 at 1:19 pm #

    Jordan Peterson is a globalist, he admits this and he is playing the game where it is easy to play, telling young white males to give up any group identity for basically being an office eunuch or basement dwelling gamer.

    If he would actually tell young men of color that their fate was the same as the young white dopes then I would respect him for at least a bit of honesty, but he has no honesty as with the other globalist “Inner Party” greedniks.

    • Tate June 18, 2018 at 1:26 pm #


    • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 3:27 pm #

      Sadly, true. This is the corporate world we have created. Hell, even the professional sports leagues, once the last bastion of true male virility, have all gone PC now.

    • PeteAtomic June 18, 2018 at 9:32 pm #

      Is Jordan Peterson a globalist? I don’t know if he as admitted that or not.

    • Farmer Joe June 18, 2018 at 10:49 pm #

      I’ve listened to several long form interviews of JP, in each one he advocates for people getting their lives together, getting out of the basement, and going on their own personal “hero’s journey.” So I have to say I disagree with at least part of your statement. I can’t speak to whether or not he is a globalist.

  33. newworld June 18, 2018 at 1:26 pm #

    FTR it will easily be seen in the near future that the election of Bill Clinton signaled the end of the Liberal West.

    He put the feelings of young suburban white girls as the litmus test of respectability.

    Now that has become cancer, or an episode of Twilight Zone if Serling would have conceived that all revolves around the whims of a 20 something spoiled white girl from a privileged background.

    Will the money people put an end to this once it is no longer useful as societal control or has it become a Frankenstein out of control?

    • newworld June 18, 2018 at 3:21 pm #

      I like the one geezer vote meme. FTR I am all for the end of the American Empire and have held that position since 1989 and the invasion of Panama. I woke up that day and realized that an old line WASP like myself was the new villian, of course I kept that to myself but here we are and I’m yer baddy.

      I’ll stand by my idea that Clinton sealed our fates when he bit his lip, the only flaw I see in my idea is if the money class can bottle that and keep it from destroying any hope. My guess is not because the money class is a looting class these days.

      I know you fine folks doubt my theme that the American Empire’s culture revolves around the 20 something white girl take yourself to Twitter and think of yourself being immersed in the most god awful cat fight of passive aggressive overly medicated spoiled girls.

  34. amb June 18, 2018 at 1:41 pm #

    Our society, our civilization… a fatal soap opera; and exercise in stupidity; failed again to isolate the key points needed to survive, thrive, prosper and better conditions. We go the same way as Rome and all the other “civilizations” before it. Rinse and repeating… for millions of years.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 7:09 pm #

      Yes, we shall go our way in fire as Atlantis went its way in water. Perhaps ice would nice, but not this time around. Maybe next!

    • PeteAtomic June 18, 2018 at 9:35 pm #

      This is why I’m subscribe to stoic philosophy. We can’t change it, be cheerful and enjoy the ride.

      • BackRowHeckler June 18, 2018 at 11:48 pm #

        And i might add enjoy the Freak Show too.


  35. 4014HAMPHEDGE June 18, 2018 at 3:07 pm #

    Different writers pick different PNR events and times for USA downhill slide… Some say the Viet Nam War. Maybe, the inconclusive Korean War and the end of Prayer in the schools.

    Some would go back to the 1913 Federal Reserve scheme, coincidental with realization America needed special financial chicanery so Ford and Sloane et al could pursue big rubber tire visions as WWI was brewing, in which most of the resource war component centered around getting the Ottoman Empire out of the way of the oil. At that point Israel was a footnote, but not now…

    My “one geezer, one vote” for end of empire would go for the decade between Korean War Armistice and the US stepping into the Viet Nam Tarbaby; French kiss to America as the smoke cleared from Dien Bien Phu. This period has a big banner, owing to the fact America slipped to being “A BORROWING NOT A LENDING NATION”,

    JHK and yours truly see demise of the local railway links as self-inflicted commitment to the Middle East oil faucet, still a crucial component in East Vs.West war planning. As a token of expectations of Famine Hedge efforts to come, here is a source for all-time US and Canadian rail matrix maps, Mike Walker can be reached at spv.co.uk

    Throw in resurgent Mohammedanism as the final turd in the churn… The Fourth Reich will flesh out their army with bearded immigrants in a variation of Der Fuehrer soothing the Muslim Brotherhood with his promises to remedy Balfour, spelled out in MEIN KAMPF. Like it or not we are on course for Fortress America. The poor Bastards have USA surrounded!

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    • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 3:38 pm #

      The Federal Reserve Act was certainly a major milestone, although it was really a culmination of events that had been unfolding for quite some time. The Civil War – which really had nothing to do with freeing slaves and was in fact all about asserting unquestioned federal supremacy and incipient global financialized industrialism over state’s rights – was more likely the true start of all our current misfortunes. After the Civil War was decided, the Federal Reserve and all the rest of what would eventually become our global leviathan was virtually guaranteed. If only Booth had gotten to Lincoln earlier!

      • JohnAZ June 18, 2018 at 3:50 pm #

        The North’s capital base was in manufacturing and human paid labor. The South’s capital was in slaves and land. There was no competition between the two. If a decent Northern general had started the war, it would’ve lasted a few months. The Southern gentry controlled the South, locking in the resistance against manufacturing. It still puzzles me how the common man in the South got conned into fighting for the gentry. They went off to war fighting for a feudal system that trapped them into poverty.

        Sort of like the vaunted service sector of today!

        • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 5:13 pm #

          They went off to war fighting for a feudal system that trapped them into poverty.

          As opposed to today?

        • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 7:13 pm #

          It was their homes being invaded by the Yankee Bastards who promised to free the slaves and let them have White women. And they kept their promise too.

          I once heard a tri-racial (White, Black, and Indian) speak. He spent his youth being beaten by Blacks and ignored by Whites. He sought out Indians and they didn’t want much to do with him either. His Black Ancestors fought for the South because the Northerners were destroying everything in their path.

          The Civil War was the absolute Triumph of Evil on all levels.

        • Tate June 18, 2018 at 11:49 pm #

          There was no feudal system (sharecropping) until AFTER the War of Northern Aggression. They had to invent it from scratch after they lost their slaves to the 13th amendment. Then the feudal system of sharecropping oppressed poor blacks & whites alike.

      • marcus1 June 18, 2018 at 4:10 pm #

        Do a lot of devilish whitewashing in the summer?

        “The Civil War – which really had nothing to do with freeing slaves…”

        Really? Tell it to John Brown, Abe Lincoln, and the people that passed the 13th Amendment.

        Yeah, all about states rights. Like if the states wanted to keep slaves, right?

        • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 5:16 pm #

          To the degree it was about slaves, it was about who would own them: the corporations or the wealthy land-owners. Even old “honest Abe” had no special affection for blacks or their plight. This was all about economics and an emerging US global presence, nothing more.

      • Ol' Scratch June 18, 2018 at 5:50 pm #

        This award winning Ray McKinnon video from 2001 sums up perfectly what the Civil War was actually about (and still is about), starting at 24:05.


  36. marcus1 June 18, 2018 at 3:21 pm #

    What’s It All About? Don’t be an asshole.

    You can look at the extreme PC and anti PC at both ends, so to speak. The pointy-headed Prof in a prissy school trying to kiss ass for advancement, or some red-neck with the rebel flag flying and claiming its his right to name his dog “nigger” and yelling the dogs name every morning and night just to heckle his black neighbors.

    What are the practical limits to speech? Don’t yell fire in a crowded theater just for kicks. Don’t use speech to incite a fight or riot. Both examples could be sited as unlawful and get people hurt.

    In the first case about the red-neck claiming he had a right to name his dog anything he wanted, the judge disagreed and banned him from exercising his “free speech.” In his comments the judge said that would be like him being the man’s neighbor, getting a dog and naming the dog “asshole.”

    • newworld June 18, 2018 at 3:34 pm #

      Wrong, you cannot even ask the passive aggresives that dominate the left a question they simply have place themselves beyond critique.

    • Tate June 18, 2018 at 5:32 pm #

      Let’s imagine for a moment that you’re a black person and you live next door to this putative redneck. You hear the man calling his dog “Nigger.” What are your choices? You can run outside screaming that he can’t call his dog “Nigger” or you can ignore his calling his dog “Nigger.” But of course, the argument is you have no choice, your actions are reflexive, like the dog itself, you’re less than human & have no choice but to bark. You’re hard-wired to run outside screaming that he has no right to call his dog “Nigger,” that it violates your rights.

      How racist is that?

    • Q. Shtik June 18, 2018 at 6:31 pm #

      Both examples could be sited as unlawful

    • Tate June 21, 2018 at 12:11 am #

      Ha! That’s a good joke at the end though.

  37. JohnAZ June 18, 2018 at 3:41 pm #

    With liberty comes responsibility. Free speech means that you can say whatever you want, but in civil tones. Free press has the responsibility to print the truth. Both of these responsibilities are being ignored today. The decline of the civility of American society is responsible. Peer or social pressure used to slow down assholes who couldn’t keep a civil tongue in their heads. Letters to the editor critiqued the performance of a paper. Also circulation. Societal values are set now by the corrupted elite, aka Robert Deniro or The NY Times or CNN. We do not count.

  38. crb2061 June 18, 2018 at 4:08 pm #

    I was surprised by the Munk debate. From JHK’s description I was expecting it to go the other way, but Peterson and Fry got schooled. Peterson tried to force the opposition to define when the Left goes too far, but they courteously declined with only a vague answer about violence and censorship being bad. Peterson should have challenged them with specific examples. Is THIS too far? Are you ok with THIS? One easy example would have been the baker vs the gay wedding cake. But he didn’t. His style was all airy abstraction without any concrete foundation. When counter challenged his response to when the right goes too far was Auschwitz. Wow, really. That’s setting an extreme goal post.

    Fry was just sentimentally weak, lacking any kind of logical or philosophical depth. That was disappointing. I was expecting something, anything better from him.

    The opposition to political correctness has some valid points to make, but in this debate it was nothing but clumsy fumbles. The pro political correctness side was not very strong, but they didn’t need to be against such lousy debaters like Peterson and Fry.

    The places where political correctness is weak and should be challenged is around stuff like ‘cultural appropriation’ and ‘non-binary gender’ shenanigans, and I don’t think I heard regarding that kind of overreach in this debate.

    • pequiste June 18, 2018 at 5:42 pm #

      Stephen Fry’s best work was decades ago as the foil for the Blackadder himself, Rowan Atkinson.

      A slew of really un-P.C. whoppers was standard fare for each program.


      Boffo stuff.

      The British authorities would NEVER permit this program today.

      • GreenAlba June 18, 2018 at 6:33 pm #

        Blackadder repeats are on all the time.

        The ‘British authorities? What, the police? The judiciary? Parliament?

        • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 7:33 am #

          It’s no wonder you guys are such suckers for Fake News. You all want your own personal production line, it’s so American Dream.

        • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 7:37 am #

          Here’s some more Fake News from your prez:


          “Despite statistics saying the opposite, Trump suggested that migration was leading to an increase in crime. “Big mistake made all over Europe in allowing millions of people in who have so strongly and violently changed their culture!” he wrote on Twitter.

          “But just last month, Germany’s Interior Minister Horst Seehofer released statistics showing that crime is at its lowest in more than two and a half decades.”

          Carry on, guys. We’re just smiling wryly on the sidelines at the wonder of it all.

          • akmofo June 19, 2018 at 8:27 am #


            And you believe the German government in this or any matter. You are more hopeless than I even imagined. You live in a complete fantasy land, Mrs Green Narnia.

            You and Janet must be twin sisters.

          • akmofo June 19, 2018 at 8:41 am #

            My suggestion to you, Green Narnia, type in these simple words to a google search:

            German government cover up

          • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 9:34 am #

            Will you type in ‘Jewish world domination conspiracy’ as well?

            I avoid such nonsense. There are always sites to provide what you’re looking for.

            Here are some more of the more popular conspiracy theories:


            I did put in your search term, though. The first website was one I’ve come across before, The Gatestone Insitute:

            “The Gatestone Institute … is a right-wing anti-Muslim think tank that publishes articles, particularly pertaining to Islam and the Middle East. The organization has attracted attention for publishing false articles and being a source of viral falsehoods.”

            “In 2011and 2012 Gatestone published articles claiming that Europe had Muslim “no-go zones”, falsely describing them variously as “off-limits to non-Muslims” and “microstates governed by Islamic Sharia law”. The claim that there are areas in European cities that are lawless and off limits to local police or governed by Sharia is false.

            “Gatestone’s claims were picked up by many outlets, including FrontPageMag, and The Washington Times.The idea of no-go zones originated from Daniel Pipes, who later retracted his claims.

            “In 2017, Gatestone falsely claimed that 500 churches closed and 423 new mosques opened in London since 2001, and argued that London was being islamized and turning into “Londonistan”. According to Snopes, Gatestone used “shoddy research and cherry-picked data.”Specifically, Gatestone only counted churches that closed but not churches that opened; data for the period 2005-2012 alone show that 700 new churches opened in London.

            “The Gatestone Institute published false articles during the 2017 German federal election. A Gatestone article, shared thousands of times on social media, including by senior German far-right politicians, claimed that vacant homes were being seized in Germany to provide housing solutions for “hundreds of thousands of migrants from Africa, Asia, and the Middle East.”The German fact-checker Correctiv.org found that this was false; a single house was placed in temporary trusteeship, and had nothing to do with refugees whatsoever. Gatestone also cross-posted a Daily Mail article, which “grossly mischaracterized crime data” concerning crime by refugees in Germany.”

            All referenced on the site.


          • akmofo June 19, 2018 at 9:37 am #

            Germany is undergoing a complete civilizational transformation. Don’t you find it a bit strange that in a country that prides itself on the fact that buses and trains arrive at their stations with the precision of 1/1000th of a second, no one knows precisely how many muslims are living in there? My darling Green Narnia, what you are seeing is Syria in the making.

            150,000 Muslim in Birmingham showing you who’s boss:

            Enjoy your fantasy world in Narnia, Mrs Green. But Syria is coming to you, and sooner than later.

          • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 10:06 am #

            They weren’t showing who’s boss, they were gathering, as they do all over the world, to mark the end of Ramadan.

            Did you notice these comments below, from non-Muslims?

            “140,000 Muslims gather and pray. Not a single person was harmed.
            No terrorist acts…”

            “It just goes to show how racist British public truly is. They are butt-hurt to see that people have gathered together in peace and love to celebrate the hard month that they completed behind them. Just because they don’t get a time of gathering like this unless it related to riots, protests or rallying. “

          • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 10:14 am #

            And yeah, Janet and me…

            Here we are:


            There’s a superJanet as well.

            The UK has agreed to take 20,000 Syrians by 2020. We should be able to cope with that. Most of the UK’s help to the Syrians has been centred around refugee camps in situ and in neighbouring countries.


            “More than 5 million displaced Syrians live in neighboring countries in the Middle East and North Africa.

            “About 1 million displaced Syrians have moved to Europe as asylum seekers or refugees since the conflict began…” [note: the population of the EU is about 512 million].

            “About 100,000 displaced Syrians live outside Europe, Africa and the Middle East, primarily in North America. These refugees represent less than 1% of displaced Syrians worldwide.”

          • akmofo June 19, 2018 at 10:16 am #


            They could’ve gathered in various mosques. Instead, they chose to it a public show of force. They are telling you “we are boss here, we are the future”. Now, you can disagree with that message, and this is where the Syria scenario comes in. Enjoy your stupidity stubbornness and Narnian wisdom.

          • akmofo June 19, 2018 at 10:18 am #

            ..they chose to ^make it a public show of force..

          • akmofo June 19, 2018 at 10:34 am #

            Yeah, and I guess according to Janet, Muslims only live in Syria. Well, here’s a newsflash for Janet: there are 100 million Muslims living in Egypt alone. Guess where they’re going when their yearly average salary of $1500 and declining, can no longer cover even the heavily subsidized pita bread of the Egyptian government? Well, I’ll tell you where they’ll be going. They’ll be going over to Green Narnia. Like I said, Enjoy!

          • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 2:22 pm #

            “They are telling you “we are boss here, we are the future”. ”

            No, you’re telling me that.

          • akmofo June 19, 2018 at 2:45 pm #

            Yes, I am.

            And what are you saying? That akmofo is a liar? That akmofo is inexperienced with these people? You think you know better? You think you know them better? You think millenia of history stops at Green Narnia fantasy world? Ask the Christians and Jews how they are faring in the Islamic world. Oh wait, there are none. Now I wonder why that would be.

            Again I say, your stubbornness will be your undoing.

          • akmofo June 19, 2018 at 3:12 pm #

            There can be no secularism without an unfettered right to “blasphemy”. You have a simple choice facing you, Green Narnia, secularism or islamism. There’s no in between. There can be no in between with Islam. They are gathering their numbers and gathering their forces. By my estimation, if things don’t drastically change in Europe, the muslims are only a generation away from causing you irreversible extinction.

          • akmofo June 19, 2018 at 3:47 pm #

            Within a generation this is how things will look in Europe:

            No nightlife because no female will be able to leave her home without being harassed and/or raped/lynched by Muslim gangs. Mass migration of young white people out Europe because of the extremely unpleasant conditions Muslims will create for them. Cities that look like one big garbage dump. Cities that are a No-Go Muslim cantons. An economy with 50% unemployment because all the skilled white labor migrated out.

            Of-course, I’m discounting an almost certain scenario of a civil war. Here we are likely to see all major European cities burned down to ashes in deliberate acts of Muslim arson. But even discounting that, once the young white Europeans leave, it is over.

            This is the future that’s staring you in the face, Green Narnia. It is only a few decades away.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2018 at 6:06 pm #

            Yes Akmo, you are correct. This one is the ultimate naïf. But like the Witch of Narnia, she and her kind want to rule over a world they themselves have ruined.

            Muslims do it in Paris as well – and not just at the end of Ramadan. Huge number will block off whole streets for hours. Some brave souls walk right thru them or over them to get home. But they won’t get away with that for much longer.

          • GreenAlba June 20, 2018 at 4:56 am #

            “Yes Akmo, you are correct. This one is the ultimate naïf. But like the Witch of Narnia, she and her kind want to rule over a world they themselves have ruined.”

            I don’t rule over anyone, Janos,or ruin anything. In fact I’d go as far as to say that I take care to ruin a lot less than most people.

            And, unlike you, I have no ambition to rule anyone. I still value my right to speak, though, and point out your endless lies.

          • akmofo June 20, 2018 at 7:14 am #

            Speaking of endless lies, you might want to learn how it is that your BBC and academia constantly lie to you and promulgate false propaganda narratives:

            Al Fadi – The History of Islam

          • akmofo June 20, 2018 at 8:27 am #

            When Professor Patricia Crone started to question the usual Islamo propaganda orthodoxy she was chased out from Oxford and Cambridge, and had to migrate to the US and Princeton to continue her work.

            These are the corrupt and disfunctional institutions you have your faith in, Mrs Green. Of-course, you likely never heard of Patricia Crone in your media, like you likely never heard of many other such “heretics” to their political orthodoxy.

          • akmofo June 20, 2018 at 9:06 am #

            Nothing happens by accident. These universities received millions and billions from Saudia to propagandize Jihadi narratives and orthodoxy. Same for your so-called reporters and editors and media publishers that constantly lie and hide the truth. Same for the politicians that allow grandiose Saudi mosques to be built and unfettered Jihadi colonization to continue. Nothing happens by accident, nothing!

  39. pequiste June 18, 2018 at 4:12 pm #

    There is just recently published a wonderful Prager U. video featuring Ben Shapiro, a bright fellow, and fine debater, discoursing on
    the topic of “intersectionality” among other P.C. nonsense and most salient to today’s theme:


    I found it entertaining in exposing word-play idiocy for what it is as well as informative; having been out of “Academia” for a considerable amount of time it is good to get current reports from the guys with boots-on-the-ground.

    As an aside; I note that U.S. and allied peace-keeping forces are still maintaining a large and active presence in Shitholistan as well as some wonderful I.S.I.S. persons celebrating the Eid with a bombing that liquidated dozens of residents of Kabul.



    • crb2061 June 18, 2018 at 8:44 pm #

      Ah yes Prager U, the fake university. An organization founded on deceit has to be a reliable source of information. Also, calling Ben Shapiro a bright fellow and fine debater is laughable. He is just as much a fop as that Peterson fellow. They both have the same problem in not presenting real world examples of their complaints. For Shapiro, I’m not sure real world examples exist.


      • akmofo June 19, 2018 at 4:23 pm #

        Thank you R2D2, I just checked out Prager University and I love it! Any others you recommend?

        • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:30 pm #

          An economy with 50% unemployment because all the skilled white labor migrated out.


          • akmofo June 20, 2018 at 4:20 pm #

            Africa? Just make sure you change your name. Maybe into something like Racismo Maximus.

  40. peakfuture June 18, 2018 at 5:04 pm #

    “Lifeboat rules” – one shudders. If we get to that point, people on all points of the political spectrum are going to be unhappy. A “fast crash” is something that will be double-plus unfun. Is is possible to soft land, or land “things as they are” without a big fireball?

    Thanks for the alternate inputs; one thing to ask anyone with a strong opinion is “Who is your best critic, or who holds a world view on the other side that you either respect or can rationally debate with?”

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  41. FincaInTheMountains June 18, 2018 at 6:03 pm #

    About the merits of Stephen Hawking and the principle Shut up and Calculate

    In fulfillment of my promise, and very briefly, since important events are taking place in the United States and I must fulfill my destiny to cover them in this blog.

    Therefore, those who are not related to physics and mathematics can wait for the next post, especially since they simply will not understand this one.

    By the will of fate I in 1990 became a pupil of Professor Schücking, who was a disciple of Einstein. He gave me the keys to his office and asked me to parse his Einstein archive, and he left for Greece, and when he returned I and several other of his students conducted some very interesting discussions about this archive, during which I realized that physics of Einstein in the US is at the death bed and specialists in general relativity are almost no more.

    But there sprung many specialists in quantum field theory, which was very similar to general relativity, but it contradicted the principle of equivalence, because in it the gravitational field was just a field, and not geometry. And between the specialists in general relativity and specialists in quantum field theory there was a war, which was a continuation of the war between Einstein himself and the journal Physical Review, which in the late 1930s refused, as far as I understood in boorish form, to publish Einstein’s fundamental article on gravitational waves.

    Einstein even wanted to leave the US for the USSR and President Roosevelt personally dissuaded him to do it.

    But President Roosevelt could not dissuade opponents of Einstein to stop persecution of the great scientist.

    You may be familiar with the basic provisions of this persecution, as in the USSR and in Russia it sounded even louder than in the US: he stole everything from Lorentz, Poincare and Minkowski. Moreover, in the USSR it acquired a malignant character, causing the letter of 14 academics and the persecution of academic Tamm, who for some reason was considered the head of the Jewish party, although in fact he was a German, but he was persecuted nevertheless…

    Einstein thanked Roosevelt, sending him a letter stating that the Nazis are building an atomic bomb, in violation of an agreement between leading scientists on not informing their governments about the possibility of creating such a powerful weapon. I do not remember now what Schücking told me about this, but I remember that the leading role in this decision of Einstein was played by Niels Bohr, and Szilard and Teller did not have any part in it.

    What is important is that Szilard and Teller at about that time went over to Physical Review side and Einstein did not trust them.

    Subsequently, the Physical Review party, because of this letter, considered it necessary to pretend that they are very fond of and respect Einstein, and they perverted his theory and what is now considered GTR (General Relativity Theory), in particular what is written in Landau’s is really Poincare’s theory, and from Einstein there was little left. Almost the only exception is Thorne’s book “Gravitation” and I heard in passing that now he seemed to be a racist, and I’m waiting for some woman to tell us how he raped her 50-some years ago. These are my impressions of the heat of struggle between the GTR and the Physical Review in 1990.

    As far as I understand, the reason for the discord is Friedman’s cosmological solution, which qualitatively reproduces the history of the World, represented in Genesis. That is, the Masons during the Great Indiction financed science and, with the help of conservation laws, proved that energy and matter exist forever and you could cut out with the Occam’s razor the idea of the Creator, but once the masons turned away for a second, you get back the Jewish Genesis.

    At first there was a hope that if we correct the tensor of momentum-energy or take into account deviations from the spherical symmetry in the first few seconds of the existence of the Universe, then zero in Friedman’s cosmological model will disappear.

    But then some graduate student named Steven Hawking got out and in 1965 proved the unavoidable singularity in the development of the Universe.

    But there was still a hope that light, due to its wave nature, creates around itself a gravitational field and does not bend geometry and then the question of the beginning of the universe disappears automatically, because at the early stages of its development the universe was a photon gas. This question is naturally related to the question of the light’s ability to be not only an object of gravitation, but also its source in the sense of the right-hand side of Einstein’s equations.

    The Physical review party in the face of Weinberg and Salam solved this question with the help of the so-called gauge invariance of the electromagnetic or rather of the electro-weak field, but when they tried to apply this method to gravity, Stephen Hawking again appeared with the thermodynamics of black holes and the gauge invariance crap hit a copper pan again with a bang.

    The fact is that Black Holes and the cosmological Friedman model in Hawking’s hands are essentially mental experiments, such as the Maxwell demon or the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen Paradox, whose task was to save Schroedinger cats from the genocide and show the fallacy of the Copenhagen interpretation of quantum mechanics in an alternative way.

    The Physical Review Party responded to this challenge with the so-called entanglement hypothesis, which is no longer a hypothesis, but a firmly established fact without any experimental verification.

    Moreover, this entanglement has become a way to appropriate enormous funds, creating a quantum computer, in full accordance with Lenin’s idea that any theory is true, and to hell with practical verification, but Physical Review disguised its desire to receive funding by the principle of shut up and calculate which in fact is a departure from the scientific method, which is based on the unity and struggle of such oppositions as theory and experiment (experiment and not practice, which according to Lenin is the process of obtaining funding)

    Yes, and theory is not computing, and thought experiments, a sample of which in the second half of the twentieth century were the works of Hawking, who almost alone resisted Physical Review by the method of obtaining scientific recognition of his works confirming, rather than disproving, the General Relativity of Einstein, and not all of this gauge-invariance crap.

    Those who know how the scientific journals in the West are being reviewed must understand that even the pose of an unrecognized genius now does not make sense, since works that really trying to understand the laws of nature By reading the mind of God simply can not be published.

    And Stephen Hawking managed to overcome these barriers, looking for objects such as black holes and the first 3 seconds of the existence of the Universe around which the Physical Review did not have time to put the gauge-invariant fences and write on them Shut up and calculate. “Calculate” in this case means refusing to construct a real theory that asks questions to experiment, and it refutes the theory, forcing science to move forward.

    Now it is not clear why Richard Feynman put forward this slogan, but his diagrams are a negation of this slogan in a chemically pure form. Most likely it was a joke or even sarcasm, but as Kozma Prutkov said that jokes with Physical Review, money and women are stupid and indecent.


    As a result, theoretical physics has turned into something like figure skating, where arbitrators sit and throw out the figure with an estimate of the intellectual triple tulips, and already from it the rejection of the scientific method began to spread to other areas, primarily to the economy, where the principle of gauge invariance was reproduced in literal form, namely in the form of gauge invariance of the dollar, which does not fall due to the absence of an object of comparison.

    By the way, it is on the basis of this principle that now Medvedev and Co want to hold pension reform in Russia, but about this in the next post.

    • Ol' Scratch June 19, 2018 at 3:17 pm #

      You remain an enigma wrapped in a Tootsie Roll Pop, Finc! Physicists are – to say the least – odd ducks. I’d tend to think that they’re all full of crap, but they’ve been making things go boom in a really large way for quite some time now, so there must be something to all their gibberish.

      I stumbled across this site http://www.reciprocalsystem.com/cana/cana01.htm last week, which contends that all modern physics at the sub-atomic level is just so much BS, at least with regard to the descriptive particulars. It was a modestly entertaining read for a layman without a dog in the fight. There was a related YouTube video as well, but I’ll be damned if I can find it now.

      • Ol' Scratch June 19, 2018 at 3:25 pm #

        Here’s the link to the opening contents page.


      • Ol' Scratch June 20, 2018 at 10:05 am #

        I think it was Feynman who famously said that the theory or mental map is not the thing itself, something theoretical scientists of all stripes need to be continuously reminded of. In other words, no matter how useful and predictive a theory is, it very well might still bear no relation to the actual physical thing it’s describing at all, especially at the subatomic level, where everything mostly exists in the scientists’ minds. The theory itself is just a mental map of what they think is going on.

    • elysianfield June 19, 2018 at 3:30 pm #

      “As a result, theoretical physics has turned into something like figure skating, where arbitrators sit and throw out the figure with an estimate of the intellectual triple tulips, and already from it the rejection of the scientific method ”

      Komaraden Finc;

      …Yeah, what you said….

    • SpeedyBB June 19, 2018 at 7:54 pm #

      In my head I heard FincaInTheMountains reciting that entire shimmering exposition in one long breath.

      • Ol' Scratch June 20, 2018 at 10:00 am #

        Of that I have no doubt. He’s definitely an introverted intuitive.

  42. Pucker June 18, 2018 at 6:37 pm #

    Identity Politics….

    “According to the account of a former child captive named Herman Lehmann, who later became a full-fledged warrior, a group of Comanches had attacked some Tonkawa Indians, in their camp. They had killed some of them and run off the rest. In the abandoned camp, they found some meat roasting in the fire. It turned out to be the leg of a Comanche. The Tonkawas, known for their cannibalism, had been preparing a feast. This sent the Comanches into a fury of vengeance, and they pursued the Tonkawas. A fierce battle followed, in which eight Comanches were killed and forty were wounded. Still, they were victorious, and now, in the battle’s aftermath, they turned to deal with the enemy’s wounded and dying. “A great many were gasping for water,” wrote Lehmann, who was there, but we heeded not their pleadings. We scalped them, amputated their arms, cut off their legs, cut out their tongues, and threw their mangled bodies and limbs upon their own campfire, put on more brushwood and piled the living, dying and dead Tonkaways on the fire. Some of them were able to flinch and work as worms, and some were able to speak and plead for mercy. We piled them up, put on more wood, and danced around in great glee as we saw the grease and blood run from their bodies, and were delighted to see them swell up and hear the hide pop as it would burst in the fire. 14 This sort of cruelty is a problem in any narrative about American Indians, because Americans like to think of their native aboriginals as in some ways heroic or noble. Indians were, in fact, heroic and noble in many ways, especially in defense of their families. Yet in the moral universe of the West—in spite of our own rich tradition of torture, which includes officially sanctioned torments in Counter-Reformation Europe and sovereign regimes such as that of Peter the Great in Russia—a person who tortures or rapes another person or who steals another person’s child and then sells him cannot possibly be seen that way. Crazy Horse was undoubtedly heroic in battle and remarkably charitable in life. But as an Oglala Sioux he was also a raider, and raiding meant certain very specific things, including the abuse of captives. His great popularity—a giant stone image of him is being carved from a mountain in South Dakota—may have a great deal to do with the fact that very little is known about his early life. 15 He is free to be the hero we want him to be.”

    S. C. Gwynne
    Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches, the Most Powerful Indian Tribe in American History

    • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 9:04 pm #

      Don’t forget to read “Scalp Dance” by Thomas Goodrich. He tells of how the Comanche were supposed to sell back two hundred stolen White girls to the Texans. With all their families present, the Comanche showed up with one badly beaten White girl, her nose missing having been burned off. The Whites lost it and started killing the Comanche. Some of them fought their way out and swore revenge. They felt deeply wronged, perhaps just bringing one girl in at first to see if the Whites were honest traders. As for the bruises and the missing nose, well the Comanche women were jealous. What can you do?

      The Comanche never forgot this insult and were always eager to attack the Texans, even if they were closer to Mexicans or Whites of Oklahoma.

      • BackRowHeckler June 18, 2018 at 11:03 pm #

        General Ranald Slidell Mackenzie and his 4th US Cavalry pretty much brought the curtain down on the Comanches in 1874 at the Battle of Palo Duro Canyon, ending the Red River War and Comanche-Kiowa resistance.

        Odd thing is at about the time of that battle the US Navy and Marine corp were fighting a sizable battle on the Korean Peninsula, which didn’t get as much ink as Palo Duro Canyon.


        • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 11:59 pm #

          What was that all about? Don’t think I’ve ever heard of it. Did the Koreans object to being taken over perhaps?

          • BackRowHeckler June 19, 2018 at 12:57 am #

            Korea was a closed kingdom at the time.

            They didn’t want any armed to the teeth round eyes mucking about. Ironically, the battle was near Inchon.


        • SpeedyBB June 19, 2018 at 8:05 pm #

          Four dead, according to the ‘Texas State Historical Association’. But all the Indian villages razed, food supplies destroyed and horses either stolen or shot.

          Hey, wanna see my tactical nuke in action against a Warsaw Pact tank attack? I only got one but it’s a honey.

    • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 10:40 am #

      That was a real PC scandal, when it was proved that some redskins were cannibals [as were some Whites, Donner pass etc].

  43. Pucker June 18, 2018 at 6:42 pm #

    Kevin Costner in “Dances with Wolves, Part 2”

    “It is impossible to read Rachel Plummer’s memoir without making moral judgments about the Comanches. The torture-killing of a defenseless seven-week-old infant, by committee decision no less, is an act of almost demonic immorality by any modern standard. The systematic gang rape of women captives seems to border on criminal perversion, if not some very advanced form of evil. The vast majority of Anglo-European settlers in the American West would have agreed with those assessments. To them, Comanches were thugs and killers, devoid of ordinary decency, sympathy, or mercy. Not only did they inflict horrific suffering, but from all evidence they enjoyed it. This was perhaps the worst part, and certainly the most frightening part. Making people scream in pain was interesting and rewarding for them, just as it is interesting and rewarding for young boys in modern-day America to torture frogs or pull the legs off grasshoppers. Boys presumably grow out of that; for Indians, it was an important part of their adult culture and one they accepted without challenge. “

    S. C. Gwynne
    Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches, the Most Powerful Indian Tribe in American History

  44. JohnAZ June 18, 2018 at 7:37 pm #

    How about the family separation situation at the border? Is it a ploy by the Left to find the next issue to roast Trump over? Is it a ploy by the Trump administration to force action on the immigration issue? Or all the above? Trump and Sessions are definitely in the driver’s seat and they have the law behind them. Laura Bush and Hillary Clinton definitely show the Deep State side of it.

    To me, the logical solution to the border is control. Uncontrolled immigration (open borders) is a pathway to disaster for the US and yes Canada too. The culture of Latin America and Norte America clash and it will always be a contest to see who will dominate. I, for one, want the US to stay just as it is. Controlled immigration will blunt the effects of Latin and Muslim immigration. The presence of 30 million illegals in the country is a given. No entity will be able to return them, and the loss of them in our economy would be disastrous. But control of the future is paramount. Walls, high tech, sonar, border patrol, as long as they are over running the border, what ever it takes to control needs to be taken. And this says nothing about drugs. Nothing shows the inadequacy of the Federal government more than the political idiocy of the immigration problem.

    • akmofo June 18, 2018 at 8:36 pm #

      “The presence of 30 million illegals in the country is a given.”


      No, it’s not. The US can employ bounty hunters, offer $1000 per head and $10,000 per employer employing illegals. The money generated in fines levied against such criminal employers will self finance the whole repatriation enterprise.

      • JohnAZ June 18, 2018 at 10:31 pm #

        This is the same US, the same Federal government you are talking about that cannot seem to run anything or even get anything done. Organize a round up of the illegals requires a few IQ points higher than our government can handle.

        • akmofo June 19, 2018 at 12:39 am #

          You’re confusing deliberate incompetence with actual incompetence. The US gov mafia is very competent when it wants to be. The question is how to make it want to be. I would start with firing EVERYONE at the FBI and CIA. I would then give the DOJ six months to remove all the illegals and jail all their criminal employers. Failure with that simple task would result in EVERYONE at the DOJ being fired. Next the same tast will be forwarded to the DHS. Failure there, will again result in the same consequences. And so on.

          If President Trump wants to, he can dismantle every one of these gov mafia agencies and he will have the full backing of his electorate. Time to stop playing footsie with these fscks.

          • JohnAZ June 19, 2018 at 2:43 pm #

            Here, here!

    • Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 9:13 pm #

      Why? Whites, Robots, and even Blacks will take every job held by an illegal. Why surrender our sovereignty by “accepting”. Akmo is right: we need bounty hunters, both human and robotic. Think of the adventure of hunting down these people! Whole new TV shows will be based on it.

      • BackRowHeckler June 18, 2018 at 10:21 pm #

        I don’t think it would get good ratings.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2018 at 12:04 am #

          What do you mean by ratings? From the people or from the critics? The people want this. And we’re tired of high brows telling us what we like. We want bounty hunters. We want to see our beloved Land being freed of Hispanic gangsters by armed White Men.

  45. akmofo June 18, 2018 at 8:51 pm #

    The ingathering:

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  46. BackRowHeckler June 18, 2018 at 9:11 pm #

    Well, we have some rather perplexing news From Capitol City: starting last Monday all kids aged 0-19 are eligible to three free meals per day in all CT cities large and small until Labor Day. The local news media has apparently been enlisted to advertise this ‘program to end hunger in our state.’

    What the government seems to be saying is in Hartford, Bridgeport, New Haven etc we don’t trust you mothers (and in very few cases are there any fathers) to feed your own children; we will do it for you.

    In recorded human history, can you think of any other instances where perfectly healthy mothers would not provide meals for their own kids? It seems to go against human nature.

    What these esteemed moms are doing when the little ones are down at the local feeding centers can only be guessed at: getting a weave, sleeping in, watching daytime TV, drinking malt liquor, trading foodstamps for contranand, entertaining various boyfriends etc.?

    By all means give these kids nourishing meals if their own mothers won’t do it. The few brave souls who questioned this program here were quickly shouted down as haters, Nazis, racists, etc which shut them up quick.


  47. BackRowHeckler June 18, 2018 at 9:15 pm #

    And oh yeah, this guy Professor Tyson is the quintessential Professional Negro, which is as good a paying job as you can get nowadays.


  48. 100th Avatar June 18, 2018 at 9:46 pm #

    Reading the comments while on a narcotic is highly entertaining. It’s also a prescription, a spoonful of sugar heaped in with a mouthful of bitter nuts.


  49. Pucker June 18, 2018 at 11:09 pm #

    Professor Dyson didn’t present any meaningful ideas. He only spewed bombastic rhetoric. It’s a tragedy that such people are given professorships in universities.

  50. capt spaulding June 18, 2018 at 11:20 pm #

    In deference to the sensibilities of all of those female college students, it will no longer be acceptable to refer to women as women. Hence, they will be referred to at all times as “Gyno-Americans”.

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    • BackRowHeckler June 18, 2018 at 11:27 pm #

      Wait a minute Captain!

      You mean they’re not called ‘tail’ anymore?

      When did that change?


      • capt spaulding June 19, 2018 at 12:06 am #

        That went out in Y1K. That is so last millennium.

    • Tate June 19, 2018 at 11:16 am #

      ‘People of Uterus’ is also acceptable.

      • capt spaulding June 19, 2018 at 11:55 am #

        Perhaps Uterine would work.

        • Ol' Scratch June 19, 2018 at 3:49 pm #

          LOL! The Uterine people and the Penile people, shortened to Uterists and Penists. Usage: “Don’t go getting all Uterine on me babe, or I might just have to apply some Penile logic to your brain synapses!”

  51. Janos Skorenzy June 18, 2018 at 11:56 pm #


    Northern Ireland is probably the only place in Western Europe where the natives are just as tough as the immigrants. No wonder Alba wants them joined to the South so they can be “enriched” out of existence along with the South.

    • BackRowHeckler June 19, 2018 at 12:08 am #

      Yeah, that’s what the recent pro abortion vote was all about.

      The new Irish PM, a homosexual Indian, has decided to import large numbers of Black Africans and Muslims into Ireland; as such they won’t be needing any more red headed Irish babies.


      • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:41 am #

        No, the jew who was the Immigration head was the guilty party.

    • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 4:38 am #


      I would use the word ‘incorrigible’ for you, but it’s altogether lacking in malignancy for what you are. Too cuddly altogether.

      I have never said I want Northern Ireland ‘joined to the south’, although I do recall saying on more than one occasion that (as everyone knows) the current internal border problem is one major cockup resulting from Brexit.

      I did mention that one likely outcome of this was the Irish (all of them) voting for re-unification*. I also pointed out, being a democrat, that this would require the people of Northern Ireland to want re-unification. What I think or want is that the people of Ireland (all of it) should make their own decisions. Sadly, the Brexiteers have somewhat made a mess of Northern Ireland’s latest decision (the peace process) which was worked on for years by people of goodwill on both sides.

      *Please not the word REunification. You will remember that this island was once a single polity until its larger neighbours started messing with it and planted a foreign population in the North for its own purposes.

      You may remember I also mentioned that many of those in the Irish Republic have historically not been fond of the idea of REunification, because the bigots of the north (#notallofthenorth) are a pain in the neck to normal people who just want to get on with their lives and live peaceably with their neighbours.

      So ‘incorrible’? No, ‘malignantly calumnious’, perhaps.

      I haven’t the slighted opinion on whether or not the two parts of the island ‘should’ reunite other than wishing that they do what they wish themselves and peace is maintained.

      But don’t feel you need to apologise for yet more lies.

      • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 4:40 am #


      • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 7:41 am #

        Please ‘note’…

      • Tate June 19, 2018 at 11:29 am #

        Alba, that ‘foreign population’ you refer to is my people, the Ulster Scots. Some of us (my forebears) had the good sense to pick up & emigrate again, but that’s another story. You see that even people who are closely related in almost every way (the native Irish & the Ulster Scots) can generate “bigots” among their number over minor difference, in this case religious? Now multiply & magnify that difference into differenCES a hundred-fold times more intractable. Why would you support the importation of totally alien peoples into your own island?

        • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2018 at 1:43 pm #

          Yes, this might be the only thing that will bring the warring factions together: they are far more alike than the people their mutual enemies (the Governments of Ireland and England and their own politicians) want to bring in. But alas, many of them are fine with it, dreaming of prosperity – that drug and destroyer. So in the end, they will probably fall.

        • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 2:27 pm #

          “Alba, that ‘foreign population’ you refer to is my people, the Ulster Scots. ”

          Did you think I’d forgotten, Tate? They’re my mother’s people too, and my father’s mother’s people.

          Some of them are bigots. Most of them aren’t, but some of their parents used to be. It’s the bigots who cause the aggro (and the thugs that just like being thugs). Most of the people manage to live together perfectly peaceably.

          And when they live away from the source of the bigotry, as my family did, the bigotry disappears, no matter who lives next door to us.

          • Tate June 19, 2018 at 2:43 pm #

            Bigotry is about survival. It will reappear spontaneously in the most seemingly comfortable of circumstances when the conditions for its emergence appear. What are the conditions for its emergence? Too many f*cking ‘vibrant enrichers’.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2018 at 5:44 pm #

            It’s all White people’s fault in other words. You’re a dyed in the wool plaid Liberal with a racial death wish – which you confuse with virtue.

          • GreenAlba June 19, 2018 at 6:06 pm #


            The point in question has nothing to do with anyone who isn’t white. White people fight among themselves for reasons that aren’t to do with their colour.

            People who want to be tribal will be tribal. Religion will do fine if there’s nothing else available to fight about.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2018 at 6:10 pm #

        Well if you can’t make them see reason, you folks could start electing another people like you are in England and America. You never asked the people about that, did you? Whether they wanted to be replaced, that is. Why would you since you don’t have to? It’s the Moral Thing to do after all!

        After the uprising of the 17th June
        The Secretary of the Writers Union
        Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
        Stating that the people
        Had forfeited the confidence of the government
        And could win it back only
        By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
        In that case for the government
        To dissolve the people
        And elect another?

        Bertolt Brecht

  52. Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2018 at 12:42 am #


    The Judiciary is easily the more corrupt of the three branches, certainly at the Federal level. Let’s face it: they’re almost all traitors and deserve to be disbarred or whatever the term is. And that’s at the very least….

    Since 2013 when Kansas attempted to stop illegals from voting, one of out seven registrations has been stopped because of lack of documentation – proof positive of the desperate need for this law and why it should be Federal and for all of the States.

    • Exscotticus June 19, 2018 at 10:57 am #

      >>> The Judiciary is easily the more corrupt of the three branches


      The problem with the judiciary as implemented in the USA is that there aren’t enough “checks and balances” to keep them honest. They’re the least accountable for their actions.

      Judicial oversight is the responsibility of Congress. But a politically deadlocked Congress is feckless in this regard. How often does a judicial decision get overturned by Congress? RARELY. How often does an Executive/Congressional decision get overturned by the judiciary? OFTEN.

      Moreover, the judiciary loses legitimacy with every split decision, with every verdict that’s overturned by a higher court. If every judge is merely following the letter and spirit of the law, regardless of how they feel about the law, how can there possibly be such a lack of common consent? Clearly many of these decisions are political and designed to achieve a result regardless of what the law says.

      Here’s are some suggested reforms…

      A supermajority of a full court (3 or more judges) is required to overturn law or executive orders; no individual federal judge can overturn law or executive orders.
      A supermajority of a full court (3 or more judges) is required to overturn lower court decisions. Split decisions show a lack of consensus, indicating political bias, which nullifies the vote.
      A court that has its decisions in whole or in part overturned by a higher court will be fined. This creates meaningful consequences for lower courts that do not follow established precedent.

    • elysianfield June 19, 2018 at 3:43 pm #

      ” disbarred or whatever the term is.”

      disbarred, defrocked, defenestrated, detained, denied their freedom and eventually (God Willing) deflowered.

      Remember, that a Judge is just an attorney with political pull.

      • elysianfield June 19, 2018 at 3:46 pm #

        My apologies to Hmuller….

      • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2018 at 5:45 pm #

        Usually, but I believe a Judge does not have to have been a lawyer. I could (and should) be appointed to the Supreme Court.

  53. wm5135 June 19, 2018 at 9:57 am #

    “Accept Responsibility” J. Peterson

    Novel idea, will never gain traction.

    “The least amount of suffering … the most freedom for everyone and the best for everyone.” J. Peterson – another dreamer?

    “You may say I’m a dreamer, But I’m not the only one, I hope someday you’ll join us, And the world will live as one” – Lennon

    “Good to see you Scratch, someone else who reads before he posts.” K-DOG – Believe you’ve got a good grip on this PC deal.

    “a spoonful of sugar heaped in with a mouthful of bitter nuts.” – 100th Avatar

    Accept Responsibility? You go first.

  54. sprawlcapital June 19, 2018 at 10:20 am #

    Trey Gowdy for president.

    If Trump had half the command of the English language as Rep. Gowdy, and half the clarity of thought, he would rank with Jefferson and Lincoln.

  55. volodya June 19, 2018 at 10:35 am #

    Draupnir, just to elaborate on what you were saying: the last chapter on Neanderthal-Sapiens interbreeding hasn’t yet been written and may never be due to the passage of time. And it’s not just Neanderthal. For example, another form of human, related to Neanderthal but genetically distinct from it, known as Denisovan, has been recently uncovered. Genetic traces of this latter form have been found in people in Papua-new Guinea and that general area.

    Neanderthal admixture may have been to the betterment of Sapiens in certain respects especially in the area of immune function. But in other areas maybe not so much. One school of thought is that the percentage of Neanderthal genes seems to be getting culled from the Sapiens gene pool by natural selection such that in the next ten thousand years or so it will be pretty much gone. But that story could change as new discoveries and information comes to light.

    The other thing is that there was quite a diversity of hominid forms in Africa up until quite recently such that even if Neanderthals weren’t interbreeding with Sapiens in Africa, other archaic forms of Homo were. Same goes for Sapiens in Asia.

    You may have heard of the Out-of-Africa theory of Sapiens evolution. This theory is that Sapiens evolved exclusively in Africa and over time colonized the world and came to be the only human form left alive.

    The competing theory is the Multi-regional Hypothesis that said that Sapiens developed via evolutionary advances in different parts of the world ie maybe rounded skulls from archaic Homo in Asian, smaller jaws from archaic Homo in Europe etc and over time and through interbreeding between various regions came to be the form of Sapiens we see today.

    Another more recent theory is that Multi-regional evolution but mainly in Africa. If this latter is correct, modern Sapiens is an amalgam of evolutionary changes from various places in Africa with some admixture of more archaic forms in different parts of the world including Africa.

    The problem here of course is that if you’re not dealing with fossil evidence, which is very sparse and fragmentary, you’re dealing with molecular biology. Nature doesn’t give up information easily especially at that micro level. So when a scientists gets up at the podium and makes assertions about what happened tens or hundreds of thousands of years ago, take with an extremely large pinch of salt.

    At any rate, Neanderthals are gone. So are Denisovans. So are other forms of Homo aside from us. From the bits of information gleaned from Neanderthal remains and their DNA from these ancient bones, it appears that Neanderthal was under severe stress. The clock was ticking for them IOW.

    As far as Sapiens goes, there was apparently a fair bit of diversity until the end of the last ice age and the agricultural revolution. This latter apparently acted as an evolutionary filter that weeded out a great deal of these diverse forms. We’re a lot more alike regardless of racial differences than we used to be.

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    • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2018 at 1:52 pm #

      And the people completely lacking this “taint” (her word) are among the dumbest on Earth. And if they bred with Homo Erectus, well that didn’t help. Neanderthal had a huge brain – bigger than that of modern Whites or Asians. Homo Erectus was a pinhead.

      Shame on you for equating Erectus and Neanderthal. Have some respect for our partial ancestors, the Masters of the Ice.

      • volodya June 19, 2018 at 2:30 pm #

        Show me where I equated Erectus and Neanderthal.

        By about 400 thousand years ago human brain achieved its modern capacity in cubic centimeters. It doesn’t remotely mean that the human brain back then was the equal of modern Sapiens in its cognitive abilities or that people back then behaved as modern Sapiens do.

        For the first couple of hundred thousand years Sapiens behaved much as Neanderthal. Sapiens had more or less the same tool technology etc.

        And then something in the Sapiens brain must have changed because Sapiens behavior changed. Out came an outpouring of technological innovation, spectacular works of art etc.

        Once Sapiens took this step, Neanderthal was doomed. Neanderthal was doomed anyway by the looks of it.

        For all the bleating of modern anthropologists who want to not appear “racist”, Neanderthal was not the equal of Sapiens once this “Great Leap Forward” took place. Neanderthal is gone. So are the others.

        Photos of earliest known Sapiens remains, earliest Sapiens on the left from circa 300,000 years ago in Morocco, modern sapiens on the right:


        • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2018 at 5:53 pm #

          Right here, you did by implication and phrasing, if not overtly.

          “The other thing is that there was quite a diversity of hominid forms in Africa up until quite recently such that even if Neanderthals weren’t interbreeding with Sapiens in Africa, other archaic forms of Homo were. Same goes for Sapiens in Asia.”

          Homo Erectus, who survived into the modern era, had very small brains. If Blacks interbred with them, it would explain much. MUCH. See the banned Anthropological work, “Homo Erectus Walks Among Us”. It ended this man’s career ere hardly begun. The Bastards!

          Many of the ancient Aristocrats of Egypt, Malta, Peru, etc had hugely elongated skulls. Some of the Ramses Pharaohs for example. Court Anthropologists refuse to comment on this – and their superhuman brain capacity.

          • volodya June 20, 2018 at 10:50 am #

            Look it up. Try wikipedia first.

            The size of modern human brains vary widely. According to one study modern human brain size in cc for males of European extraction averages 1260 cc and for women 1130 cc.

            For men the range was between 1053 cc and 1499 cc.

            For women the range was between 975 cc and 1398 cc.

            This is the link: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2711771/

            As far as Erectus being a pea-brain, their brain sizes varied widely, just like modern humans.

            The upper range for Erectus brain size, based on fossil remains, was at the lower range for modern brain size.

            Look at Britannica on this:

            “Several African values are also available, and in the case of the Koobi Fora and Olduvai individuals these range from about 850 to 1,067 cubic cm.”

            “Javanese Homo erectus: 930 cc, Chinese Homo Erectus: 1029 cc.”

            This is the link for the above https://www.britannica.com/topic/Homo-erectus

            Erectus was alive for more than 1.5 million years. This alone tells you they were an outstanding success in terms of longevity. And they managed to traverse fair stretches of ocean.

            As far as is known Erectus didn’t survive into the modern era. Show me where you got this because this is big news, at least to me.

            I said not a peep that Africans were copulating with Homo Erectus. I said “archaic forms”, the nature of which are as yet unknown.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 20, 2018 at 12:38 pm #

            You still think brain size doesn’t matter – but in fact it has a “robust” relationship with IQ. Yet Erectus knew his business, but he was a moron compared to us. Likewise, you still believe the Lie of Human Equality – as if Blacks can’t jump better than Whites and Whites can’t think better than Blacks.

            Like the court Anthropologists you worship, you refuse to even look at the skulls of the ancient Aristocrats. They were far more intelligent than so called modern man, their degenerate and degenerating descendants.

          • Tate June 20, 2018 at 6:08 pm #

            The picture sure looks like Shannon Sharpe.

  56. Q. Shtik June 19, 2018 at 11:23 am #

    Off topic:

    An anti-police-brutality activist and city councilman accused an officer of racially profiling him back in May during a traffic stop but bodycam footage, once again, proved otherwise. La’Shadion Shemwell was driving 20 mph over the speed limit in McKinney, Texas, when the officer pulled him over on Highway 5. Shemwell insisted he was pulled over for “being black with dreadlocks” and apparently became confrontational with the officer.


    I speculate that the old Aunt who dreamed up O.J. Simpson’s name Orenthal had a hand in giving Shemwell the first name La’Shadion. In any case, someone needs to be credited with originality.

    • volodya June 19, 2018 at 11:38 am #

      Where does the “La” prefix come from? You see it in a fair number of Black names. Was it a development in North America? Or is it a linguistic artifact of African names or languages?

      • draupnir June 19, 2018 at 12:52 pm #

        Those African names were lost, along with the languages they sprang from in African Americans long ago. I suspect those names are a form of rejection, an absolute repudiation of the primary culture surrounding them.

        • volodya June 19, 2018 at 1:00 pm #

          an absolute repudiation of the primary culture – D

          Sounds right.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2018 at 1:55 pm #

        Somewhere or other on Amren, there’s a very informative and humorous article on the genesis of Black American names. It’s has far more to do with phone books and trucks passing by at the time than Africa. I’ll have to try and find it. Happy Kwanza, y’all!

        • Ol' Scratch June 19, 2018 at 4:48 pm #

          One of my current favorites: Barkevious Mingo, currently a LB for the Seattle Seahawks. Old Barky. Perhaps he has some latent Bloodhound (more likely Rottweiler) in him? Maurkice Pouncey of Pittsburgh gets honorable mention. Apparently an errant k was out wandering around and slipped into the room the day he was born.

          • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:50 am #

            I’m adding Quendrick to my list of great first names that I stumbled across in 2015. I’ve posted this list of interesting first names before and figured some folks would get a kick out of my updated list.
            All of these names are from crime stories I’ve ran across on the Internet… if I were to search for names from the rosters of NFL and NCAA football teams I’d break the Internet with this post.

            Barvetta Singletary (37) worked at White House! – shot her boyfriend (DC)

            Quendrick “Bailey (20) shooter at Bunny Field Park massacre in at New Orleans (LA)
            Ryndreaka Gooseberry (?) survived Bunny Field Park massacre in at New Orleans (LA)
            Expavious Tyrell Taylor (20) murdered in gun battle (FL)
            Zyquabious Romaire Williams (18) Sexual assault (SC)
            Ketrellia Monaja Harris (15) murdered white man for $3 (NC)
            Breonna Thorne (19) protested black-on-black murders (PA)
            Tremon Rahquis Pittman (22) murder victim (NC)
            Shiparish Yates (21) looting (SC)
            Jemetric Nicholson (28) cop killer(IL)
            Porshau Hewitt (37) Triple homicide (NC)
            Shakeem Ricks (21) murder (NJ)
            Tyheem Mayfield (23) murder (NJ)
            Nyje Johnson (20) murder (NJ)
            Quajeir Culbreath (17) murder (NJ)
            Jeavonte Dennis (18) murder (NJ)
            Divonite Almestica (?) New Orleans councilman who says crime is result of lack of opportunity (LA)
            Donwan Tonwlsey (26) raped U. of Indiana student (IN)
            Chicwanda Forbes (32) murder (LA)
            Latausha Nedd (?) goes by name Eye Empress Sekhmet and burns flags and threatens whites on youtube (GA)
            Jkukuruin Corley (19) former gang member (TN)
            Nanyamka N. James (20) arrested for assaulting police officer while out on parole (WI)
            Jamycheal Mitchell (24) committed suicide while in jail (VA)
            De’Eris Marquan Brown (21) shot 9 year-old girl named Jamyla (MO)
            NuPhaeya Hassen (12) attacked a 12 year-old boy who she claimed was in KKK (MO)
            Juruary Miles (30) cop killer (TX)

            Shyteak Lawrence (25) killed in drive-by (MD)
            Timiquae Marquan Slaton (22) murder (GA)
            Jaelyn Delshaun Young (19) tried to join ISIS (MS)
            Shavinskin Thomas (21) murder (PA)
            Janaris Shamer Cunningham (34) pistol whipped a detective (AL)
            Kingquintav Davis-Ringold (1) infant killed by mother (IL)
            Lavauntai Broadbent (16) pulled a gun on a white guy in a robbery, got shot by guy b/c he had CCP (MN)
            Yahdea Brown (19) part of ‘knockout gang’ group (OH)
            Najee Harmon (21) cop killer (WI)
            Dhoruba Shakur (25) public supporter of man who tried to assassinate a police officer (MO)
            Draon Armstrong (21) claimed police brutality when police roughed him up for resisting arrest after not paying metro fare (MN)
            Demaryius Thomas (27) President Obama gave a full pardon to the cocaine trafficking mother of this NFL player (GA)
            Shuntayvious Primes-Willis (15) murder (NE)
            Tajanetta Downing (24) beat up a 72 y.o. lady (MA)
            Kenoldo Alexis (17) part of gang rape of mentally disabled girl (FL)
            Ajanique Legrand (16) leader of gang of 15-16 year-old girls that mugged Brooklyn residents (NY)
            Trepierre Hummons (21) cop killer (OH)
            Jordyn Wade (16) QUADRUPLE homicide (OH)
            Cudellious Love (59) murder (AZ)
            Johnren Gaines (17) raped an 11 year-old (LA)
            Shitavious J. Cook (15) murder (GA)
            Quartavious Davis (19) Serving armed robbery (FL)
            Dajerria Becton (15) girl who Cpl. Casebolt detained in infamous “Pool Party” incident (TX)
            Lyndell Dunnigan (15) beat a white man at a public park because “whites ain’t allowed there” (TN)
            K-Vonne Jenkins (21) sex offender (KY)
            Malandus Pearson (32) killed two white teen-age girls (MS)
            Daquantrius Johnson (21) stealing a wedding ring and other items from a woman who was dying from a brain aneurysm in a Taco Bell (KS)

            Qwinterrious Dodson (22) theft (GA)
            Antwonetta Jones (22) strangled baby after delivering it and put it in trash compactor (LA)
            Ruhemmeion King (17) 2 counts of felony-murder (GA)
            Xzoyloysius Wood, Jr. (19) shooting suspect (VA)
            Shaquaid Cox (18) rape (OH)
            Shanetria Lanier (21) neighbor of Detroit “Freezer Mom” (MI)
            Shontavious Chestnut (25) murder (GA)
            Desunda Brown (18) teen-age girl with Robbery and firearm charges (TN)
            Dayvone Malvo (20) arrested for indecent exposure (TX)
            Dominiq Marquan Deloach (18) murdered innocent white bystander to an argument (NC)
            Tariq Jordan (15) murdered innocent white bystander to an argument (NC)
            Yvon Norton Jr. (20) rape (OH)
            Nehemijel Houston (?) murder (NC)
            Centrilia Shardon Leach (?) murder (NC)
            Demarquise Elkins (?) murdered infant (GA)
            DQuan Ingram (21) aspiring bus driver (FL)
            La’el Collins (22) murder(LA)
            Johnesda Perry (19) murdered infant (PA)
            Shyrome Jaquane Johnson (25) obstruction of justice in homicide of white 5 y.o. girl (SC)
            Rohbanni Wilson (24) sex offender & murderer (FL)
            Ymmacula Pierre (30) female NYPD cop who used credit cards of murder victim (NY)
            Donte Adaryll Noble (41) murderer(SC)
            LeRoya Moore (36) stabbed her 6 and 8 y.o. daughters to death (CT)
            Lakecia Hyman (41) embezzled $10,000 from charities (NJ)
            Orinthid Jabbar Hayes (19) sexual assault (FL)
            Quincinio Canada (24) murdered young marine and his wife (TX)
            Quinellia Shanice McKoy (24) B&E (NC)
            Jamealia Moore (36) theft (NC)
            Dontejio Taft (28) theft (NC)
            Younikue Stewart (18) larceny (NC)
            Shaequan Demetrice Johnson (22) robbery (NC)
            L-Vic Nicholson (22) stolen property (NC)
            Tykerious Raheem “Grumpy” Jones (17) murder (GA)
            Quanterrious Wynn (18) murder (GA)
            I-Key Tumazs Pinkins (18) murder (GA)
            Ty’Cameron La’Darius Hayes (18) murder (GA)
            Lyryan Robinson (19) murder (GA)
            Jamar Clark-killed- when he tried to disarm a cop.

          • Ol' Scratch June 20, 2018 at 12:10 pm #

            Quite a list you’ve got there!

      • GreenAlba June 21, 2018 at 11:33 am #


        From a quick hunt:


        “Because of the vibrant Creole culture in Louisiana, there is also a French influence in some African-American names. This includes not only French surnames but also given names beginning with “La,” (e.g. Lawanda), “De” (e.g. Deandre’) and with the use of apostrophes (e.g. Andre’, Mich’ele), that represent accents that were not yet available on American typewriters at the time.”

    • San Jose June 19, 2018 at 1:13 pm #

      Q. Shtik,

      What do you think of the names, Obamaneisha and Twerkeisha?

      • Q. Shtik June 19, 2018 at 3:44 pm #

        What do you think of the names, Obamaneisha and Twerkeisha? – SJ


        My first reaction was “This is a joke, right?” but then in this day and age any name is possible. (Was it Zyquarious or Tyquarious? I forget.)

        I think the point we are all making or that I, at least, am making, is that this outpouring of absurd (or should I be kind and just say, unusual), names seems to have begun (began?) at the time of the civil rights legislation in the mid 1960s. You would think that that legislation would mark the turning point toward improved relations between blacks and whites…but, NO, the very opposite seems to be the case. As Draupnir said “I suspect those names are a form of rejection, an absolute repudiation of the primary culture surrounding them”…a huge eff you middle finger.

        • elysianfield June 19, 2018 at 4:00 pm #

          “You would think that that legislation would mark the turning point toward improved relations between blacks and whites…but, NO, the very opposite seems to be the case”

          The question of the lack of Black assimilation into mainstream culture was posited, on this site several years ago. My answer then and now;

          “Before the 1960’s they couldn’t…after the ’60’s, they wouldn’t….”

        • San Jose June 19, 2018 at 4:42 pm #

          Naming a girl Elizabeth, Michelle, Maria or Cynthia destines them for college! A Twerkeisha is bound to become a pole dancer.

          Jen in San Jose

      • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:51 am #


        • SpeedyBB June 20, 2018 at 8:36 pm #

          Malthuss, not that I doubted your report in the least but I really really had to look up the esteemed Mr. Shitavious J. Cook, and the panoply of delights on Google Images made it all worthwhile.

          Best of all was the photos where he had this ‘Who? Me?’ look of surprise and mock-innocence on his puss. May have worked at one time, but it’s too late now, kemo sabe.

          ‘Dismemberment’ yet. He should be a popular storyteller in the pokey.

          What a world.

      • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:56 am #

        What do you think of the names, Obamaneisha and Twerkeish
        That they are not like us.

  57. John Howard June 19, 2018 at 1:53 pm #

    Show of hands, who thinks Congress should ban making a baby except by natural sexual reproduction of a man and woman who consent to marriage? Oh, and void all same sex marriages?

    Lots of people think the most important thing is for men and women to have the same right to be pregnant and marry the same sex.

    • 100th Avatar June 19, 2018 at 4:38 pm #

      This guy and his “natural sex” infatuation

      I hope you carry a hermaphrodite to full-term in your rectum.

    • Ol' Scratch June 19, 2018 at 4:39 pm #

      Better question: why should Congress give a shit about any of that at all? Since marriage is a legal matter sanctioned by the state, yes, they should make marriage licenses applicable to man and woman couples only. That’s their right. Beyond that, wanna marry your dog, cat, horse, or gerbil? Fine, go find a “church” that will do that for you and have a nut. Just don’t go thinking that you’ll find any official legal sanction for it.

      As for reproduction, given the current population pressures, it should probably be outlawed altogether, but good luck enforcing that. Absent that, what are you gonna do. Fucking people are people and they’re manifestly too stupid and/or inventive to be legislated against. Maybe the hyper-rich are right after all? We’re just too damn degenerate these days to be allowed to continue living.

    • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:55 am #

      Do laws stop lawbreakers?


    • Tate June 20, 2018 at 11:26 am #

      Lots of people think the most important thing is for men and women to have the same right to be pregnant and marry the same sex.

      That was just a majority of old faggots & Chosenites among the Supremes who ordained it, despite the fact that men don’t have babies & marriage is for the responsible raising of children. (And I don’t mean these Supremes either.>


      Down with the Kritarchy!

  58. 100th Avatar June 19, 2018 at 1:58 pm #

    “And offering a framework for understanding human relations that actually comports with reality. In what has been lately a reality-optional culture, that really hurts.”

    Here is the reality: individuality, independent thinking, opinion that does not “comport” is being snuffed-out by the collective.

    The echo-chamber. The networked group-think.

    Homogenization Era of the Anthropocene Epoch.

    It will be easier with the imminent AI implants.

    With the full AI, there will be one “mind” in the hive of automatons, as this is what happens with the surrender and capitulation of humanity.

    Austere brutalism. It’s the future.

    • Ol' Scratch June 19, 2018 at 3:41 pm #

      I wrote a short story on this subject a few years back that I posted on another website, since gone dark. I was just noodling around, but it’s amazing how prescient some of it’s turning out to be.

      An excerpt:

      Walk Hard!
      Into Your Corporate Future

      As I sit here totally cognitively immersed in the latest round of Walk Hard!,TM (Brought to you by NSA Surveillance Technologies Group – Eliminating ThoughtCrime one synapse at time – and by Cognitive Imaging Technologies – CIT, We make dreams come true – and by GoogleSoftCloud – The Hive’s Silver lining) I can’t help but reflect on our good fortune and how it all came to be. The story of the twenty first century has truly been one for the ages and those corporate persons of us who have come through it all relatively unscathed are truly blessed. When I think back on the primitive, pre-corporate lives my grandparents – my grandparents for the Cosmic CEO’s sake! – I’m at once appalled and amazed at the progress we’ve attained in the few short decades that have passed since then. Hard as it is to remember all now, perhaps I should start from the beginning.

      The Beginning

      The pre-corporate days of the naughts and the early teens were wild and wooly, no doubt about it. Pre-corporate anti-corporate sentiment had gradually reached a zenith, fueled by the usual cast of characters: career malcontents, ne’er do wells, misfits, hipsters, slackers, self-labeled “doomers”, womanizers, druggies, and generally whatever else the proverbial cat might have dragged in. This was expected and dealt with in all the usual corporate ways of the time, limited as they were. In spite of the Great Leap Forward begun in 1980 under eventual CSA (Corporate State of America) Honorary Patron Saint and Founder Ronald Reagan, the great corporate/private incorporation articles issue of 2022 was yet far from decided, and the “smart money” was still parked firmly on the sidelines.

      Nonetheless, the Prequel of 2008 provided the pretext and launching pad for all that followed. Conceived in the Cheney/Bush White House of 2000, it has since been widely hailed as the political masterstroke that enabled the modern age. In the aftermath of Yale/Harvard legacy dilettante dip-shit George W. Bush’s disastrous administration’s pre-planned wreckage of the economy, fellow Harvard silver-tongued token Negro Barack Obama was chosen to succeed him. And what a success he was! As predicted, the disconnect between what Obama said, with all his bullshit oratorical flourishes, and what he actually did thereafter was simply too much for the primitive American people of the time to get their minds around, and Conservatives were able to paint him as a milquetoast “peoples liberal,” even as he wrote them a blank check to continue military escalations across the board, many surreptitiously disguised through immensely lucrative privatization contracts, and unprecedentedly massive infusions of cash by the federal reserve directly into the portions of the economy that needed it least and would part with it last – the mega-wealthy corporate scions of the day. It was perhaps the greatest political masterstroke of all time, but it wasn’t done yielding fruit yet.

      The science was already coming in on the climate change we’re experiencing even still today, but of course our corporate forefathers knew that it was in no one’s best interest to acknowledge it just yet, certainly not our corporate forefathers who save the world and create the utopian society we enjoy today, nor the non-corporate working class brutes who would be sacrificed for the good of humanity in the following years. As the economy continued to stagnate throughout Obama’s second term in office (2013-2016), it was gradually decided that he was simply too good of a foil to let go of, and that he and his democratic party “opposition” (the fix had long been in across the board, with only a handful of exceptions) would propose a pre-corporate constitutional amendment allowing him a third and even fourth term if he decided. Conservative “opposition” was then suitably whipped into a mock frenzy, but in the end, after a suitable amount of hot air and faux outrage was expended, the conservative right “caved” to the inevitable and it was done. “Barack the Great,” as he was soon dubbed, was “Lord of the Land” for the next eight years, at least if he wanted it, and the die was cast. All of which would turn out to be the least of it…

  59. Tate June 19, 2018 at 3:02 pm #

    Here’s something I wanted to post up near the top in response to another comment but my comment got ‘vaporized.’ (Happens a lot. Let’s see if this posts.)

    Good column from the Z-man today:

    His usual attack on Conservatism, Inc. Jonah Goldberg, whom he accuses of “pretending to be an intellectual,” figures prominently.

    Now, Goldberg is just an affable guy, who does not want to cause any trouble, while pretending to be an intellectual. I’m surely giving him too much credit for suggesting his incoherence is intentional. His latest book [Liberal Fascism] is so bad that I suffered from vicarious embarrassment while reviewing it. Even so, he is not alone. If you look around the so-called conservative intellectual space, it is a parade of mediocrities spouting banal nonsense that mostly defends the status quo against criticisms from the Right.

    Then he gets to the heart of the matter, the “pint-sized wunderkind,” Ben Shapiro, who he says can’t be that stupid.

    Shapiro is a smart guy so he surely sees the contradictions. That means he says things about conservatism that he knows are false, or at least at odds with what has been the core of conservatism for centuries. Maybe it is just what sells and he is just an ambitious person willing to do anything to get ahead. None of that really matters, because the net effect is the same. The well-meaning young people who look to guys like Shapiro to put structure around their temperament are swimming in squid ink.

    One reason conservationism is now a dog’s breakfast of libertarian nostrums and reworked liberal platitudes is that conservatism is short of conservatives. The people carrying the banner for Official Conservatism don’t know the first thing about what it means to be conservative. It is as if they have spent their lives trying to avoid the great conservative thinkers. There is no trace of the intellectual giants in the ideas of the modern conservative. Take for example the great quote from the philosopher Michael Oakshott.

    “To be conservative, then, is to prefer the familiar to the unknown, to prefer the tried to the untried, fact to mystery, the actual to the possible, the limited to the unbounded, the near to the distant, the sufficient to the superabundant, the convenient to the perfect, present laughter to utopian bliss.”

    … how is it possible to read that, as a conservative, and not immediately understand that being on the Right is not about individualism or anti-racism or any of the other ridiculous fads popular on the Left? The answer is they are either too dumb to see it or they hope their readers don’t see it. In other words, the squid ink is intentional.

    • Tate June 19, 2018 at 3:07 pm #

      Link (which may have caused the posting problem):


  60. FincaInTheMountains June 19, 2018 at 4:56 pm #


    Russian Trade unions decided to go to rallies against raising the retirement age


    Tomorrow you will not live to retirement
    Navalny called everyone to go to rallies against raising the retirement age


    First of all, Russians should stop discussing the need to raise the retirement age. At the same time, I am categorically against raising the retirement age and support the idea of mass protests on this issue, but pensions in this case do not have anything to do with it at all.

    You will not believe it, but the pension reform is really connected not only with the gravitational waves, in the discovery of which Alexander Sergeev played a decisive role, but also with the thermodynamics of black holes, and Hawking himself wrote about this shortly before his death. But as I said in this case, pensions have nothing to do with all that.

    This is a provocation!!!

    The same provocation as the liquidation of the Russian Academy of Science(RAS), which provoked the Maidan and firing howitzers at nine-story residential buildings in Donetsk.

    This time we are talking about the buildings in which we live, and when it’ll Bombanulo in full, you will not be up to retirement, even if you are already 63 or 65.

    Well, think for yourself, if this bastard and Satanist really worried about the pension fund, would he raise this topic on the opening day of the World Cup?! Why the fuck did he feel at the moment when there are several million foreigners in the country? By the way, there was an Olympiad between the Maidan and the liquidation of the RAS, does not it remind you of anything? And to me, among other things, this is reminiscent of the events in which Gorbachev came to power.

    I urge my Russian compatriots, do not go to any rallies organized by Navalny or trade unions.

    Navalny is Father Gapon!


    Putin was against the elimination of the RAS, just as he is now against raising the retirement age. And now he simply can not order Medvedev to stop this disgrace!

    But soon he will be able to, if Russians do not succumb to outright provocations.

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    • Ol' Scratch June 19, 2018 at 6:09 pm #

      Raising the retirement age only compounds the unemployment problem as well. They should be looking to trim the employment rolls of the elderly so that the youth can get the few remaining jobs left. In fact, I read a compelling analysis back in 2008-9 arguing that rather than TARP and all the other bailout shenanigans they resorted too, they should have paid off all those eligible for SS above a certain age (50, I think?) at the time with a one time cash payout of several million dollars (I can’t remember the exact figure) and then told them to go away. It would have been a huge cash infusion into the economy exactly when it needed it the most and it would have trimmed the employment rolls of deadwood and the unemployment rolls of those desperately needing a job. Instead, here we sit still, waiting patiently for our terminal demise. Pensions in general – both public and private – are Ponzi scheme fool’s gold. They’ll be gone in an instant when the next long-overdue crash arrives.

      • FincaInTheMountains June 19, 2018 at 7:15 pm #

        This is a very valid point!

        The youth unemployment problem could lead to a national catastrophe when the old guard start to die off due to natural causes, leaving no younger qualified replacement.

      • K-Dog June 19, 2018 at 10:47 pm #

        You scratched up another bit of contrarian wisdom. But such wisdom would be part of a bigger plan to keep America healthy for our inevitable future. We have no such plans. Besides you suggest government be part of the solution? T

        For that the tar is on the boil and somebody is getting the feathers.

        • Ol' Scratch June 20, 2018 at 7:28 am #

          Yeah, I’ve since realized that government ain’t going to solve anything. But that’s mostly because it’s been captured by the private sphere.

  61. Pucker June 19, 2018 at 6:15 pm #

    Orlov’s Communities that Abide….

    The main competitive advantage of the Comanche was their ability to fight on horseback. One drawback of the horse for the Comanche, however, was that it seems that too much time riding a horse tends to induce miscarriages. This forced the Comanche to put great emphasis on taking young adolescent females as captives in raids.

    One could also barter horses for females with other tribes or with the Mexican Comancheros.

    The Comanche women may have resented the facial features and white skin of captured White teenaged girls? Many captive white teenaged girls had their noses literally burned off.

    • Ol' Scratch June 20, 2018 at 4:04 pm #

      If they did that today it would likely turn into a fashion trend…

  62. FincaInTheMountains June 19, 2018 at 7:03 pm #

    Three very important topics:

    1. The first topic about how the modification of the scientific method, introduced in the process of creating the Big Bang theory, led to the creation of misanthropic economic “scientific” theories that provoked the geopolitical catastrophe of the late 20th century and Russian pension reform now. This is in the sense that even if Medvedev was not only an honest decent man, but also a real Boy-Scout, he still had such a crap in his head that he would have ruin things anyway.

    2. Events in the United States are developing in such a way that the Clintonoids for the first time are really scared of complete catastrophic defeat, and it is possible that they are pushing the pension reform through Medvedev in Russia to provoke the riots during World Cup, to slow down the offensive of Trump in the US.

    In particular, in developing of the scandal involving the separation of children of illegal immigrants on the border, it turned out that they are being driven by the drug mafia to cross the border with children to distract the attention of the border guards from caravans with drugs.

    And the Americans realized why the Clintonoids so obstinately hamper the construction of the wall at the border and why this issue becomes central to the midterm congressional elections and the US Senate.

    3. In the posts about the meeting with the man whom I call the Chinese diplomat, I told you that according to his story, the search for the tin islands of Phoenicia, on which judging by the ancient bronze there are rich deposits of such metals (rare earths) like lanthanum and yttrium, as well as lithium and indium, is behind the intricacies of world politics. In particular, the “Chinese diplomat” told me that this is due to the fact that the largest rare-earth deposit is in China, which recently banned their export, and now the West can get Chinese rare earths only as part of Chinese microelectronics, which makes it economically unprofitable to develop gadgets in USA.

    I was interested in this story because the history of the Great Phoenician Way on the tin islands allows one to look at the Renaissance from an unexpected point of view and extend the history of the Black Pproject from the 12th century AD to the Bronze Age, but in the process of checking this story I found that the largest $6 trillion rare earth deposit is located not in China, but in North Korea, and this makes you look from a different point of view on Trump’s talks with Kim Jong-un in Singapore and Kim Jong-un’s talks with Xi Jinping taking place in China today.


    • FincaInTheMountains June 19, 2018 at 7:45 pm #

      And the opium wars make all these three points unite into one.

  63. BackRowHeckler June 19, 2018 at 8:03 pm #

    It appears as tho the political structure of the entire western world is being destablized by the mass migration of millions of poverty stricken human beings from Africa, Latin America, Asia and the Middle East into its borders. The day of reckoning, predicted by Professor Samuel P Huntington in the 1990s, seems to be at hand.

    Before too long, most likely in Europe, there will be blood. It will probably begin in Germany, Belgium or France, where the sizable Muslim populations will begin making demands and issuing threats if those demands are not met.

    The EU most likely will side with Islam, which will compicate matters even more.


  64. Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2018 at 8:10 pm #

    Don’t fall for the cries of the Mexican “children”. They’re all well paid child actors. Their cages are comfortable, with plenty of straw and games.

  65. Janos Skorenzy June 19, 2018 at 8:35 pm #

    Maybe we should keep the children permanently, raising them as Janissaries or Slave Soldiers to fight their own people for us.

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    • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 12:47 am #

      Have you studied the recent ‘Tucson Gate?’

      • Janos Skorenzy June 20, 2018 at 1:47 am #

        No, what is it? I googled and just found fence companies.

        • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 10:50 am #

          Cemex Company
          Kevin Rothschild, Mayor of Tucson
          Sex slave camp on cemex property

          Titus Frost channel, you tube.

          Snopes denies these things, Of course.

          No this is not b.s. and if you claim so you are part of the child sex slave problem. There are underground tunnels running people children money drugs you name it all over the US.
          [Search domain http://www.godlikeproductions.com]
          Tucson Police Chief Sued For Not Protecting Child Sex “Slave …
          Tucson Police Chief Chris Magnus is being sued by a woman who alleges that he failed to “stop several officers using her as a sex “slave” while serving in the Richmond Police Force.

          [Search domain arizonadailyindependent.com] https://arizonadailyindependent.com/2017/08/21/tucson-police-chief-sued-for-n
          More re.

  66. Pucker June 19, 2018 at 8:49 pm #

    In the “debate”, Stephen Fry refers to Professor Dysen as a “huckster”.

    Political Correctness is basically a form of hucksterism, right?

    • BackRowHeckler June 19, 2018 at 9:08 pm #

      huckster yes, but what’s he selling?

      hate? resentment? malice?

      He’s a Professional Negro and is paid handsomely by largely white audiences of intellectuals to assuage their white guilt and rub their noses in their ‘privilege’. Its a form of self flagellation.


      • Pucker June 19, 2018 at 9:27 pm #

        Political Correctness is hucksterism to the extent that no reasonable serious person would take the position that a person cannot make an argument or have his authority and accomplishments recognized because of his status as a white male.

        Nor would a reasonable, serious person take the position that a person is entitled to some benefit and power because he/she is a member of a particular group without regard to his/her effort.

        Nor would a reasonable, serious person take the position that having suffered in the past is a License for future bad behavior.


        • Tate June 20, 2018 at 11:07 am #

          Elrond Hubbard would probably disagree but it seems as though we have a lot of unreasonable, unserious people in charge.

      • Ol' Scratch June 20, 2018 at 10:31 am #

        “Professional negro.” Nice! In the interests of accuracy, we should start identifying all these identity politics people based on what identity group they’re allegedly “representing.” Professional feminist, professional LGBT, professional minority group, etc. Then dub the method Linguistic Correctness (LC), so as to combat PC with LC.

      • elysianfield June 20, 2018 at 4:20 pm #

        “huckster yes, but what’s he selling?”

        Dyson is a strong, vocal proponent of…reparations.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 20, 2018 at 5:57 pm #

          If you still want to get high, try this: Get really drunk some evening, then watch Peter Fonda’s movie, “The Trip”. It’s a classic. You might get an adumbration of the real thing, a mediated contact high.

          • Tate June 20, 2018 at 6:24 pm #

            Didn’t he act in that movie ‘Easy Rider?’ That was disrespectful to paint an American flag on his gas tank (not so much now). Then all the hippies came out of the theater all weepy-eyed thinking it actually happened, I suppose.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 21, 2018 at 2:33 am #

            Yes, him. The son of Henry Fonda, a far more versatile actor. The movie one of the classics of hatred against Southern Whites.

          • elysianfield June 21, 2018 at 7:59 pm #

            “Get really drunk some evening, then watch Peter Fonda’s movie, ”

            I’ve only been “really drunk” maybe five times in my 72 years, and even in those low moments I would have the presence of mind not to debase myself further watching one of his movies…unless, of course, his sister was being, on film, brutally gang raped by a hoard of North Vietnamese amputees. That I could watch cold sober.

  67. janet June 19, 2018 at 9:51 pm #

    What’s It All About: Coercion

    Xi Jinping is poised to match Donald Trump blow for blow. The next flurry of jabs may be imminent. In his announcement of tariffs on Chinese goods on Friday, Trump vowed additional duties if China retaliated — which Beijing immediately did. Details of U.S. restrictions on investments from China will follow in the next two weeks.

    “Dow Dives Nearly 300 Points as Trump Ratchets Up China Trade Fight: U.S. stocks fall sharply on Tuesday after Donald Trump threatens to unleash a fresh round of tariffs on $200 billion worth of goods from China.”

    Repeat after me: “This is not a trade war. Trump is not going to crash the economy.”

    • Ol' Scratch June 20, 2018 at 10:24 am #

      If by the economy, you mean the Wall Street speculators, then the damn economy could definitely use some crashing. We’ll see where all this ends up in due course, but no one said getting rid of the giant vampire squid beast of globalism was going to be easy.

  68. 100th Avatar June 19, 2018 at 10:02 pm #

    “Political correctness is America’s newest form of intolerance, and it is especially pernicious because it comes disguised as tolerance. It presents itself as fairness, yet attempts to restrict and control people’s language with strict codes and rigid rules. I’m not sure that’s the way to fight discrimination. I’m not sure silencing people or forcing them to alter their speech is the best method for solving problems that go much deeper than speech.”G. Carlin

    “I will never be a fan of any kind of political correctness: I think it’s instant death to creativity” M. Mikkelsen

    ““The greatest enemy of clear language is insincerity.” G. Orwell

    “In this era of political correctness, some people seem unaware that being squeamish about words can mean being blind to realities.” – T Sowell

    “Stifling words and the ideas they summon forth are the first steps in surrendering to an idealized world, a purely mental realm of suspended disbelief under constant threat of the open mind” -Anon

  69. janet June 19, 2018 at 10:05 pm #

    What It’s All About: Coercion

    Trump has kidnapped hundreds of babies and toddlers. They are being held in unknown locations in what Trump is calling “tender age” shelters. No one is allowed to know where they are, to visit, to photograph. Trump says he will stop kidnapping children, he will stop kidnapping babies, if only the Democrats will pay for his wall.

    There is no guarantee, if Democrats pay the ransom, that Trump will then reveal where the kidnapped babies and toddlers are being held.

    • FincaInTheMountains June 20, 2018 at 6:16 am #

      Trump, like Richard the Lionheart, fights tooth and nail opium venom pouring through a treacherous Southern border.

      • janet June 20, 2018 at 6:22 am #

        Big man talks about MS13, then fights against the weakest most vulnerable small brown women by taking away their toddlers. These mothers and their children will never be reunited. DHS has the parents. HHS has the babies and toddlers. The parents are deported and Trump keeps the children.

    • akmofo June 20, 2018 at 6:31 am #

      President Trump should just FedEx these pederast kids straight to the Vatican, save everyone the travel costs, cause that’s where all these pederast kids will end up — fsckbuddies of Vatican demons.

      The criminal parents of these pederast kids should be charged with criminal negligence and made to serve 10 years of hard labor constructing the wall on both the Mexican and Canadian borders. The Mexican border during the summer and the Canadian border during the winter.

  70. FincaInTheMountains June 20, 2018 at 6:46 am #

    Regarding Islam being a “religion of peace”

    This is an utter nonsense that Islam is the religion of the peace; Islam is a very warlike religion that requires Muslims to ruthlessly wage war on pagans and forbids obeying them, even when the force is not on the Muslim side.

    But for a Muslim to obey the Christian sovereign, if he lives on the territory of a Christian state and is a citizen of that state, it is not a right, but a duty, which is directly connected with the Christian principle “There is no power but from God”.

    Including a Muslim is obliged to fight against Muslims who invaded the territory of this state and protect his fellow Christian citizens from them. And the current bitterness of jihad is connected with the fact that the faithful Muslims came to the conclusion that Christianity degenerated into semi-pagan, semi-gnostic rubbish, one of the varieties of which is atheism. So, to the contrary, the absence of Orthodox Christian culture among present-day Europeans and Russians provokes conflict with Muslims, and does not calm it.

    And I would not be surprised if someone explained that to Putin about ten years ago, as well as the fact that the hatred of Christians that ISIS and other receivers of Gulf monarchies scholarships, prove that they are not Muslims, but Shaytans and outlaws who reject all four schools of Islamic jurisprudence, outside of which talking about Sharia is like discussing Koran with a drunk.


    And the Islamists do just that, obnoxiously scolding the companions of the Prophet, killing the Imams and exterminating the people of the Book – Jews and Christians.

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    • akmofo June 20, 2018 at 10:55 am #

      The whole edifice of Islam is built on lies and counterfeit orthodoxy. It is an absolute disgrace that this is not exposed and widely known by the public, not in Russia not in Western Europe not in the Americas not anywhere.

      • FincaInTheMountains June 20, 2018 at 5:27 pm #

        And what do you suggest now?

        To genocide 1.8 billion Muslims, the followers of one of the three Abrahamic Religions – Judaism, Christianity and Islam?

        Or send them to Starbucks re-education centers?

        • akmofo June 20, 2018 at 6:48 pm #

          My concern is with the level of education on the subject, or rather the lack of true education on the subject. This subject needs to be taught in all schools and universities and exposed in all the media outlets. It needs to be made common knowledge. Instead, what’s common knowledge is the lies and Jihadi propaganda the Saudis paid everyone to promulgate.

          Once true knowledge regards Islam is wide spread, no serious person will want anything to do with Islam. Same as no serious person now wants anything to do with Nazism or Communism.

          This is what I’m talking about as what should be taught in our schools:

          • akmofo June 21, 2018 at 8:20 am #

            You will do well to learn this well, otherwise Russia’s fate will be that of islamo Euroba.

          • GreenAlba June 21, 2018 at 12:04 pm #


            It may surprise you to know that large numbers of people in the UK deplore Saudi funding of radicalising madrassas in the UK. Measures were taken to clamp down on it following evidence of radicalisation.

            This Guardian article is a mainstream article from a mainstream newspaper that you would not deign to read.


            The subject of the article is the unwillingness of the government to publish a report into Saudi funding of the spread of Wahhabism. It was David Cameron who commissioned the report. The ‘sensitivity’ relates to commercial interests in Saudi Arabia, which are, sadly, even more important to the UK (not to me) following the Brexit decision.

            You will have seen my multiple posts stating that the sale of arms to the Saudis by the UK and the US are a disgrace, in the case of the US especially because of 9/11, whose instigators were mostly from Saudi Arabia. In our own case because of the issues above, the killing in Yemen, and just generally.

            You have chosen to ignore them.

          • akmofo June 21, 2018 at 1:12 pm #

            So “The Guardian” traded Saudi/Daesh propaganda for Iranian/Hezbollah propaganda. I’m supposed to be impressed by that? Let me know when “The Guardian” starts exposing Paliwood/Palistanis for the Vatican/CIA/KGB Egyptian propaganda fraud that they are.

            There’s nothing that will dissuade me from boycotting all of these corrupt and lying institutions. There’s no going back on this judgement concerning them. I want them dead and gone, and that’s what will happen with all of them.

          • GreenAlba June 21, 2018 at 1:31 pm #

            That’s entirely up to you, akmofo. I hardly look at the Guardian. Other people on here link to it as often as I do when it suits them, even the ones who claim to distrust everything it says..

            I found the article via Google – not looking on the Guardian search facility.

          • akmofo June 21, 2018 at 4:37 pm #

            Why would anyone waste their time with these liars and their lies? You will never learn the truth from these people. You will only be mislead by deliberate misrepresentation, to be propagandized by foreign and malicious agendas. More than that, there is a whole universe of information that they will never show you, and it is done on purpose to keep you ignorant and easy to control.

            Why would anyone submit themselves to such malicious manipulation? Why allow it to exist by legitimatizing it in any way?

    • akmofo June 20, 2018 at 11:43 am #

      So what exactly did all those millions of NRA gun owning dudes and dudettes coerce you into doing?

    • Janos Skorenzy June 20, 2018 at 12:29 pm #

      Yes, guns are instruments of coercion. If you do A, I will do B. Of if you don’t do A, I will do B. The latter is the function of Government and often imitated by criminals in robberies. The former, is the stance of patriots and ordinary people trying to keep what they have. I assume Elrond has no problem with the second option, with Government and Criminals having a monopoly on force.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 20, 2018 at 12:32 pm #

        The Threat of Force, for both good and evil. Elrond is discovering the alphabet, the Aleph and the Beth of how Societies work. But he must see the Omega of how it all pans out. The two roads lead to very different places. He seems to be committed to the downward path that leads to Communist Totalitarianism.

    • K-Dog June 21, 2018 at 10:26 am #

      Good cartoon. Sadly it captures the essence of the human condition. Everyone wants something, more, more, more. Ever more. The deep emptiness inside must be filled. And most don’t even have a clue about what really moves them forward through their day.

      A bitch about not being able to get back here. Your cartoon has to be opened in another tab. It did not let me jump back.

      • elysianfield June 21, 2018 at 11:34 am #

        “A bitch about not being able to get back here.”

        …I had to re-boot my computer after viewing….

  71. Janos Skorenzy June 20, 2018 at 12:24 pm #

    I cannot express the depth of loathing for what America has become. Every news media in the land is playing a recording of a wetback baby crying as if this is infinitely significant, as if the alien baby of an invader matters somehow. Just give the whole fucking thing back to the Indians then – and go back to Europe and convert to Islam. It’s a suicide trip and those who enable are murderers. And those who fall for it are morons and enablers.

    How utterly feminine in the worst possible sense. Healthy women have their hands full with their own children and those of their friends, relatives, and neighbors. They certainly aren’t going to get involved supporting aliens who are being brought in to torment and replace their children. But women with nothing better to do such as career women, spinsters, retirees of small families, lesbian ministers, man haters of all kinds, men who are basically women in men’s bodies, etc, get involved in the profitless works of darkness and “think” they are doing good deeds.

    I have no idea why the kids are separated. Fine with me if it’s punitive. I would do far worse. Apparently it was begun by Obama. But who cares. The whole ginned up, poisoned, saccharine sentimental spree is a giant distraction: neither the kids nor their parents should be invading our country. What kind of parents would do these kind of things to their children? We don’t need monsters like this. And even if some are great people? We still don’t need them, can’t use them, and don’t want them.

    A guy called a congressman and said if you separate the kids I’m going to kill your kids. Happy now, Media? Thankfully action was taken and he was arrested. The Media are the Enemy just as much as the Invaders are. This can’t go on. The Media is the nervous system of the nation. Imagine if your hand was burning but you couldn’t feel it. Or couldn’t see your feet. Or see what you wanted to see or what you were in fact “seeing”. It’s like that. We’re dead in the water and sitting ducks with this traitor media as our nervous system. It needs to be nationalized and then sold back to patriotic individuals and groups – like the Trump organization for example. PBS needs to go the way of the dinosaurs. The Government does need to retain some media outlets for themselves, but all of those folks need to find work as bathroom attendants and sweepers.

    • Tate June 20, 2018 at 2:24 pm #

      Operation Mockingbird is alive & well. Because of the Long March through the Institutions, the organs of propaganda & news dissemination have been thoroughly co-opted & appropriated by the Left, the Left being nothing more than an alliance of the Unassimilated Ethnics, the Sexual Deviants, and the Privileged Misfits. Their aim is to completely deconstruct Western Civilization under the guise of the false doctrine of Critical Theory. They aim to bring our civilization down in smoking ruins. They think they have already won the covert war as evidenced by the confidence of the Sexual Deviants to show themselves in full view “out of the closet,” & that now they can move on to the active phase, but the battle has not even been joined yet. Once the mass of ordinary Americans are awakened to the gas lighting that has been inflicted on them, they will react with justified fury & the jig will be up.

  72. Janos Skorenzy June 20, 2018 at 12:47 pm #

    Corey Lewandowski didn’t mock a little Mexican Mongoloid Idiot, he mocked the media making a big deal about the whole thing.


    Former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski mocked an anecdote about a 10-year-old girl with Down syndrome being separated from her mother at the U.S.-Mexico border due to the Trump Administration’s “zero tolerance” policy on immigration.

    During an appearance on Fox News Tuesday night, Lewandowski responded “womp, womp” when fellow panelist Zac Petkanas shared the account he had read, CNN reports.

    Petkanas, a former senior Democratic National Committee adviser, said the 10-year-old had been “taken from her mother and put in a cage.”

    Womp, Womp indeed. Thank God, for the Slavs. They will save us if we can be saved. Their simply manly take on things is exactly what is needed. Thank God for Barbarians, better than effeminate trash any day. This man should be at Trump’s side but he lost out to the Satanic duo, Jared and Ivanka.

  73. Janos Skorenzy June 20, 2018 at 1:43 pm #

    The Greek New Testament word for sexual immorality is “porneia”. It is mentioned 25 times therein. The Greek word “eros” (not mentioned at all – maybe not part of the language anymore and certainly alien to Christianity alas) is actually more akin to our experience of falling in love. It is far more than just lust.

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  74. Janos Skorenzy June 20, 2018 at 1:50 pm #

    Has everyone else in the World died or been raptured out of here? Am I alone now at last? That’s alright. A man alone is either an animal or a god. And I’ve been taking god lessons….. Of course I hope to find a few other gods and goddesses to hang out with. There must be a few someplace. Otherwise, I might end up like that guy in the Outer Limits episode, he was protected from the nuclear blast because he was reading in the bank vault. Afterwards he lined up all the books he wanted to read, at last having the time. Then his specs broke and he couldn’t read them. Well that’s nether godly or animalistic, but very human and fallible. This form is very limiting, and one must tolerate its limitations as long as it lasts. Perfectly imperfect as St Therese of Lisieux put it.

    • GreenAlba June 20, 2018 at 3:01 pm #

      “Corey Lewandowski didn’t mock a little Mexican Mongoloid Idiot…”

      OK, god, I’ll bite.

      Here’s my question. These ‘mongoloid idiots’ are the ones you want aborted in your country, right?

      Or do you want them born and then insulted and despised as ‘mongoloid idiots’ all their lives, when it was your divine grace that allowed them to be born as they are?

      Your choice, god?

      Or maybe you’ve decided you’re just an animal. Do advise.

      • GreenAlba June 20, 2018 at 3:18 pm #

        Goodness it’s gone quiet in heaven. God must be busy sorting out the wheat-children from the chaff-children.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 20, 2018 at 5:41 pm #

          A few of these mongoloid idiots have normal or almost normal IQs. Surely a place can found for them in the Epsilon Moron class, perhaps as managers of the same. I’m not in favor of special Olympics or having them cavort and show off their inferior little bodies. Nor of beauty contests for them or other ugly people where virtue displaying women pretend they are beautiful. You don’t do that I hope.

          • GreenAlba June 20, 2018 at 6:09 pm #


            “A few of these mongoloid idiots have normal or almost normal IQs.”

            So why are you referring to them as idiots?

            I’m more interested in the value you see in them as human beings, in a universe that you claim has a benificent creator.

            More especially, I can’t help being curious as to how you would deal with having such a child introduced into your own life, by the usual random accidents of nature.

            Would you perhaps treat him or her as a blessing sent by God to teach you something you had previous chosen to ignore?

            Would you give him or her the same love and attention you would lavish on another of your children, given how much has been said on here about the importance of a father in a child’s life?

          • GreenAlba June 20, 2018 at 6:26 pm #


          • Janos Skorenzy June 20, 2018 at 8:20 pm #

            No, I would see him or her as a curse and misfortune like we used to do. That thar is dippy White woman talk. They end up saying they are glad they had a Mongoloid. As has oft been said, Americans are incapable of experiencing tragedy. Britons too, apparently.

            As for the child, I would hope I could love the idiot despite it being a misfortune. I probably could – I’m good at things like that, believe it or not.

            As Maslow said, advanced personalities can reconcile elements that seem completely contrary to conventional people.

          • Tate June 20, 2018 at 10:38 pm #

            What you said about Americans being incapable of experiencing tragedy reminded me of the great novel “The Sound & the Fury,” by William Faulkner & of “Benjy” one of the main characters, who is a full-blown idiot, not a Down’s syndrome person, but an actual idiot. But if you go to Wikipedia, you would never get that. You would think he had a mild learning disability. Wikipedia is edited by a professional saccharine mafia.

            Of course, Southerners are the only Americans who are capable of experiencing tragedy.

          • GreenAlba June 21, 2018 at 7:03 am #

            “As for the child, I would hope I could love the idiot despite it being a misfortune. I probably could – I’m good at things like that, believe it or not.”

            Well, that’s good. Hopefully you’d end up loving the child enough to stop thinking of him/her as an ‘idiot’.

            You are not required to pretend you aren’t disappointed when you find you have a child with a disability – everyone wants the best for their child.

            Most of those who have Down’s children say they’re a delight in themselves. That doesn’t mean it would be ‘virtuous’ to choose for your child to have such a disability.

          • elysianfield June 21, 2018 at 11:51 am #

            “Well, that’s good. Hopefully you’d end up loving the child enough to stop thinking of him/her as an ‘idiot’.”

            At what point should we begin to deny the obvious? Janos has indicated, on various occasions, that the female psych seems lacking some fundamental components of reality-based thought…your statement is a perfect example of a hormonally-driven worldview.

            Loving a felon does not make him a good citizen…loving an idiot does not make him/her of greater value to humanity.


          • GreenAlba June 21, 2018 at 12:18 pm #

            “the female psych seems lacking some fundamental components of reality-based thought”

            Give me a break from your patronising twaddle, thanks.

            I didn’t say the child would be any cleverer for being loved. I’m sorry your understanding of the relationship between a parent and a child is so limited that you don’t get what I’m saying.

            I’m not going to womansplain it to you.

          • GreenAlba June 21, 2018 at 12:54 pm #

            Actually, EF, let me just humansplain it to you.

            “Hopefully you’d end up loving the child enough to STOP THINKING OF HIM/HER as an ‘idiot’.”

            This is the sentence you took exception to – or rather, jumped on to make a sexist point you were just dying to make, without thinking about what it entailed or probably without reading the rest of my post properly.

            Now, imagine that you, elysianfield, tomorrow, have a debilitating stroke and, after as much recovery has happened as is possible, you’re left drooling, with one half of your face hanging and your wife having to wipe your arse. You’re in a wheelchair and not feeling much ‘use to humanity’. Because you’re not. Except maybe to bring some humility into the lives of those who come into contact with you – somewhat like a Down’s child in some ways.

            Now, Mrs elysianfield *may* choose to THINK OF YOU as the ugly, useless, drooling waste of space whose arse she’s got to wipe for god knows how long, but, hopefully, she’ll THINK OF YOU, rather, as the husband she’s always loved, that she’d do anything for, and whose arse she doesn’t mind wiping. Because you’re the object of her affections. Even while she’s the subject of your sexist cr@p and possibly has been all her life.

            But you’ll still be incontinent, ugly, and useless, and still in a wheelchair. And probably still full of sexist cr@p.

            Are we getting anywhere yet or are men lacking some fundamental components of linguistically based thought? Which is all of it, really, so you’d hope not.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 21, 2018 at 2:05 pm #

            Yes, E is right. The Idiot won’t cease to be an idiot just because they’re my Idiot. Not that I would call them “Idiot”. Rather I would play along with the maya or illusion of life as engendered by positive feelings. Play the game!

            Your rejoinder to him is apt. But he is right too: at some level necessity is transformed into desirability in the alchemy of modern feminine psyche. You see this all time as in “Everything worked out like it was supposed to.” Basically Candide’s, Everything works out of the best in the best of all possible worlds. No mistakes in other word. Women can’t stand admitting mistakes or being anyway involved in mistakes or shoddiness. So voila, the mistake or imperfection foisted upon them is part of a Plan. It becomes “Perfect”. Over hear at least, middle class women love to say that word, and in way that chills the blud.

            Your pov is in line with some Theology if kept within bounds. The Church says we should accept things in a resigned spirit and try to find the good in them while never forgetting we live in a fallen world. God didn’t will this or Evil in general, but permits it as it is what we merited by the Fall.

          • GreenAlba June 21, 2018 at 2:41 pm #

            “Your rejoinder to him is apt. ”

            Well, thank you, Janos.

            “The Idiot won’t cease to be an idiot just because they’re my Idiot.”

            And at no point did I suggest s/he would.

            ” Rather I would play along with the maya or illusion of life as engendered by positive feelings. Play the game!”

            You wouldn’t be doing that either, and neither would I. If I’d had a disabled child I’d have been heartbroken. Then I’d have done what everyone else does and got on with the job of looking after him/her and loving him/her because that’s the deal you make when you decide to have a child. For better, for worse, although we don’t say it explicitly.

            None of that includes the idiocy you claim because you want to insult women. The disabled nature of the child does not become a good thing, or something to be treasured. You just accept the incontrovertible reality that you wanted a child, you knew it wasn’t risk free, and this is the child you got. And you’re going to love the child because that’s what parents do.

            Some religious people add other things, like considering their child a blessing in some compensatory way. That wouldn’t be me. It remains a fact that lots of parents of Down’s children say they’re delightful and kind children. If that’s a compensation, that’s all it is – it’s not wishful thinking, it’s an observable reality.

            “If it’s a problem, it has a solution. If it has no solution, it’s not a problem, it’s a fact, and it has to be faced.”

            As someone said.

            But I believe what you said about loving your child no matter what, which given your previous vocabulary, I wasn’t sure.

          • elysianfield June 21, 2018 at 8:14 pm #

            “Are we getting anywhere yet or are men lacking some fundamental components of linguistically based thought? Which is all of it, really, so you’d hope not.”

            What men are lacking is the maternal instinct. It may not be Politically Correct to correct a mother’s perceptions of a damaged child, but the fact remains that the damaged child exists as damaged.

            A mother will love the child without consideration of the damage…this, in a woman is hardwired.

            A father may love the child, in spite of the damage. In spite of….

            Don’t resort to calling me a sexist…a cheap and almost worthless effort. Women have strengths and weaknesses…as do men. I utterly reject your pejorative labeling.

          • elysianfield June 21, 2018 at 8:16 pm #

            “Even while she’s the subject of your sexist cr@p and possibly has been all her life.”~Alba

            Yup, 47 years worth, as of Tuesday….

          • GreenAlba June 21, 2018 at 8:30 pm #


            “the female psych seems lacking some fundamental components of reality-based thought”

            You come out with this gross and insulting generalisation and you are offended about being called sexist. As you say yourself ‘I utterly reject your pejorative labeling.’

            “It may not be Politically Correct to correct a mother’s perceptions of a damaged child, but the fact remains that the damaged child exists as damaged.”

            Of course the child remains damaged. What is insulting is your suggestion that the mother’s perception is that it doesn’t. I’ve actually never heard anyone suggest such a bizarre idea.

            “A mother will love the child without consideration of the damage…this, in a woman is hardwired.”

            The mother will love the child *despite* the damage – in most cases. There will be cases where she doesn’t. There are cases where mothers want to love their completely normal children and can’t, mothers who don’t have that ‘instinct’ even when they assumed they would. There have been cases where children have been abandoned by both their parents because they thought the disabled baby was a curse from God. So they were not ‘hardwired’ enough.

            “Yup, 47 years worth, as of Tuesday….”

            My hearty congratulations. I wish you both many more years. I am not being cynical.

          • GreenAlba June 22, 2018 at 3:30 am #


            If I may be allowed a small illustration, my daughter’s best friend has a Down’s child. He’s about 17/18 now.

            For his whole life, his mother’s own life has had to work around his disability. His disability shapes ever hour of her life. Nothing has been possible without arrangements being made to accommodate his disability.

            His disability is her reality, yet you tell me her psyche lacks some component of reality-based thought.

            He won’t leave home at 18 and go to university, so her life will continue to be based around this reality.

            Down’s children, like children with cerebral palsy, vary enormously in what they are able to do. I had contact with one who wrote the Foreword to a book on mental health that I worked on. He may have had help in the writing but the words were his own and they were fine. My daughter’s friend’s child is not like this. He may one day be able to find some ‘work’ to do that will help with the structure of his life as it does with all of us, but, if so, it will be through someone’s charity.

            By coincidence I saw a woman on TV last night who was illustrating a funding problem. Money is running out everywhere, as we know (except in the pockets of the one percent). This woman’s child is 15 but has the mental age of a baby. She has no language. She cannot even point, so if she is in pain she cannot indicate where – her mother has to do what she can to figure it out.

            The child goes once a week to respite care, which gives her mother a tiny break from the relentless *reality* of her life.

            The local authority can no longer afford to pay for this care, so this lifeline is about to be taken from her and she looked quietly distraught, at the end of her tether. She does not imagine for a moment that her child is not disabled or see some other reality different from what a man would see looking at the child.

            Her life is more reality based than anyone would wish for anyone. I simply don’t know how she copes, every reality-based second of her reality-based day.

          • GreenAlba June 22, 2018 at 5:32 am #

            I should have mentioned that the Down’s child’s father scarpered. Too much reality. Currently he can’t even be relied upon to appear when he’s promised, to see his son.

            Many years later she found happiness again. She and her new husband had a (normal) little girl, who is now about four or five.

            Then he scarpered too. Some women get a lot more reality than they deserve.

            And that puts her in the category of ‘single mother’ – in fact single mother with children by two different fathers. And we know what that means on this website. Even though, at no point, did this really nice woman do anything remotely reprehensible. And she keeps dutifully and responsibly on.

  75. Tate June 20, 2018 at 3:38 pm #

    Shouldn’t we follow the lead of Spain & house the families of the vibrant enrichers in college dormitories?


    The Ivy League schools would be ideal for housing families intact. President Trump has the power to issue an Executive Order to make it happen & please everyone!

  76. FincaInTheMountains June 20, 2018 at 5:14 pm #

    The crisis of child immigration in the US

    Yesterday, Trump met with Republican lawmakers, and I’ve been for three hours reading the nonsense the media is spilling about it, and I can not figure out what happened there.

    I got the impression that even the participants of these events can not understand what happened there. Except may be for Trump, who once again proved that all his hoops and jumps are planned using NASA supercomputer.

    And if you carefully re-read the second paragraph of the previous post, you will understand that in this problem, really all the lines of the most burning problems of the whole world have come together as at the focus point: the slave trade, pedophilia, drug trafficking, Islamic terrorists and most importantly the November elections.

    As I said, until I can understand what happened, but a light at the end of the tunnel has already dawned and in brief I will share with you its reflections.

    The Obama administration three years ago, when Hillary Clinton once again ousted Barack Obama from power, passed a law according to which children whose parents are taken into custody are sent to orphanages or certain camps.

    But at that time this law was not applied to illegal immigrants, who were detained while crossing the border. They were given the date of the trial, and released in the hope that they would appear at the trial.

    When Trump began to seriously fight illegal immigration, they began to take children from immigrants, and now articles began to appear about the fact that children’s camps were side by side with the camps where people accused of slave trade were being held, including trafficking in children.

    But the corresponding order or, more accurately, the explanation of how this law should be applied, was issued by US Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who arranged Trump’s ruined years, refusing to oversee the investigation of Trump’s links with Russians, instigated on the basis of the documents fabricated by Hillary and the director of the FBI Comey, and instead a fierce Clintonoid Rosenstein began to oversee this investigation.

    In fact, Trump was faced with a choice, either to take away children from all illegal immigrants, or to return to the old practice, allowing unimpeded entry into the country not only to bandits, but also terrorists trained in Syria who simply bought a baby from some slave-trader and took it along to American border.

    You understand, the second option is a guaranteed loss of Republicans in the midterm elections in November. The first option, however, too. What did you think? Hillary is very far from enjoying Kentucky chicken dinner!

    But Trump seems to have somehow twisted out of the trap. In any case, I’ve been waiting an hour for a widely advertised speech by Trump, somehow ending this disgrace. A few hours ago he gave an interview in which he explained that his partners in the negotiations had proposed to hire an additional 6,000 judges to deal with the problem, which would consider these cases. These judges will cost the US $40 billion a year, but Trump’s negotiating partners refused to give him $25 billion to build a wall (border equipment) that would solve the problem once and for all.

    Who said that a good businessman can not be a good politician? And he hinted that Sessions should be fired for the operation instruction that prescribes to seize children from illegal immigrants.

  77. Janos Skorenzy June 20, 2018 at 5:45 pm #


    They really need to make an example of this guy somehow. Make him face some kind of consequences, either legal or at least in terms of career. But alas, he will be made into a hero in the circles in which he travels.

    • Tate June 20, 2018 at 6:17 pm #

      What career? What acting skill does it take to act like you’re on an acid trip?

      • Janos Skorenzy June 20, 2018 at 8:49 pm #

        Great masters make what they do look easy. If they couldn’t, they wouldn’t be great. Only a handful of men can actually just walk on stage. The simple things are the hardest sometimes. Blacks are stronger at things like this. I’ll never forget a Haitian co-worker imitating White people trying to act natural. Trying. He wasn’t being hateful (and wasn’t hateful) so it was pretty funny.

        • Tate June 20, 2018 at 10:22 pm #

          Steady on there, Janos. Simmer down.

          You don’t want to have a potential stroke over it like this fellow,


          • Janos Skorenzy June 21, 2018 at 12:11 am #

            Awesome. The Arabs are so excitable. When Saddam was being buried, his tribesmen were wailing and tearing at their clothes. One boy was yelling, He is not dead. I can hear him speaking!

            This good fellow may share a bit of the blood of the Ancient Egyptians, especially as he is a Copt, but I can’t imagine their civilization producing people of his type. All of the Art and Monuments speak of something completely different.

  78. FincaInTheMountains June 20, 2018 at 6:54 pm #

    Update: Trump did sign something, forbidding the separation of families of illegal immigrants, but what exactly was canceled – the law or the official instructions of Sessions is impossible to understand.


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  79. Pucker June 20, 2018 at 7:55 pm #

    Comanche Chief, Buffalo Hump, (otherwise known as “Erection that Won’t Go Down”) had a Dream Vision of driving the White Man into the sea and grabbing all of the young white women. Acting on his Dream Vision, “Erection that Won’t Go Down” led over 1,000 Comanche warriors to pillage and burn the Texas town of Linnville and massacre its inhabitants and steal all of their top hats, colorful ribbons, and shining belt buckles. “Erection that Won’t Go Down” made a difference.


    • malthuss June 20, 2018 at 10:29 pm #

      ????? ke m o sa bee

  80. PeteAtomic June 20, 2018 at 9:00 pm #

    Trump putting a zinger of a rally here in Duluth, Minn. tonight. 9000 people in a capacity crowd in the Amsoil Arena.

    The round table between union guys who represent mining and Trump was a total love fest.

    It’s loud as hell and many red hats. Minnesota used to be very reliably democrat. I’m not so sure now.

  81. janet June 20, 2018 at 9:40 pm #

    Trump’s executive order merely replaces one inhumane act with another. Domestic violence survivors remain locked up, thousands of children are still locked up, children and parents are still separated, no plans for reuniting them are in the order, and all this is carried out in our country’s name. What the president signed today is not a solution as it leaves children indefinitely in detention and is a violation of the law.

  82. Janos Skorenzy June 21, 2018 at 2:19 am #

    SPLC smear factory finally gets it in the neck. Only the beginning hopefully. These people are the epitome of what’s wrong with America.


    • Janos Skorenzy June 21, 2018 at 2:08 pm #

      That they lost in a case against a Muslim after all the Christian organizations that they have slandered is of course, Telling.

  83. tucsonspur June 21, 2018 at 2:54 am #

    Yes, it’s about coercion and also subjugation. Viktor Orban of Hungary, for one, is tired of it.


    The Left mounts an insidious battle for the will and minds of men.
    But there is no Antietam here, no Stalingrad, Waterloo or doughboys mounting the trenches.

    They march their army disguised with the camouflage of false virtue, carrying poisoned blankets of thought led by the Panzers of political correctness.

    One almost longs for Roman Legions, Greek Phalanxes, Stoic Spartans, or Gallant Gurkhas.

    The entire West is imperiled.
    At some point, the Warrior must leave the words and let it be Blood.

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    • akmofo June 21, 2018 at 6:55 am #

      Best to just ignore them and boycott their institutions. Let them die and disappear of bankruptcy and irrelevance. Their spasms of surreal depravity are their last gasps for air. Ignore them. We are on to them. So is the general public. Soon they will be dead and gone.

  84. wm5135 June 21, 2018 at 9:15 am #

    “According to the C.I.A.’s own documents, the people on the ‘kill list,’ who were targeted for ‘death-by-drone,’ accounted for only 2% of the deaths caused by the drone strikes.” link at AutomaticEarth

    The American in Chief is more successful than even his supporters know. same link

    Big Rally in Duluth –

    “Who could imagine that they would freak out in Minnesota . ” Zappa 1966

    “Was that a man or a woman?” Trump 1966 oops 2018

  85. Tate June 21, 2018 at 3:02 pm #

    Paul Sperry tweets from Friday:

    “IG Horowitz testifies material implicating Lynch in possible obstruction of Hillary email case is contained in classified section of his report and that he will work with Congress to declassify it. Here is the possible smoking gun:”

    “IG Horowitz confirms his staff did not recover all of Strzok’s or Page’s text messages from the December 15, 2016 — May 17, 2017 ‘gap’ period when FBI suffered mysterious archiving ‘glitch’ …”

    “IG Horowitz revealed in Senate testimony FBI never named a target or even subject in Clinton probe. Not Mills, Abedin, Combetta or Clinton herself. ’Nobody was listed as a subject of this investigation at any point in time.’ adding this was ‘surprising’ for a crim probe” [my emphasis]


    “Horowitz just confirmed that there indeed was an original draft of his 568-pp report that was subsequently redlined by DOJ/FBI higher-ups. It’s imperative that Congress obtain this early version before the swamp rats edited & revised it for obviouis CYA purposes.”

    “IG Horowitz confirmed that he is investigating allegations that FBI officials ‘edited’ agents 302 summary reports of interviews with witnesses & suspects in the 2016-2017 investigations (including Gen. Flynn)”

    “House Judiciary member Rep. Mark Meadows (R-NC) unmasked the ID of anti-Trump, pro-Hillary FBI investigators referred for punishment by IG. One is SALLY MOYER who allegedly was having a romantic relationship with a male FBI attorney, mirroring Page & Strzok”

  86. FincaInTheMountains June 21, 2018 at 5:42 pm #

    Arithmetic of pension reform for third-graders

    This is to the question of whom and why it is necessary to raise the retirement age on the basis of the well-known data and school arithmetic. Sometimes higher mathematics is a camouflage, hiding a butcher’s knife.

    First of all, the demographic hole, because of which they allegedly want to raise the retirement age, is a direct result of the policy of Yegor Gaidar, who to the question what would happen to pensioners as a result of his reforms, answered briefly and clearly: “They will die”.

    The pensioners did not die, they started the vegetable gardens and raised potatoes, but 30-40-year-old men died in very large quantities, and the women, having felt this attitude towards the citizens of the very own state, stopped giving birth to children.

    Thus, the Malthusians carried out the recommendations of their guru to the exact opposite, for the third time in 20th century significantly reducing the population of the country, now badly in need of human resources. And now they want to starve those who in the 90s were 30 years old, but somehow managed to survive.

    Now about Putin. This issue does not arise for the first time and in fact he says the same thing in 2005 and in 2018, and reinforces his objections to raising the retirement age and his support for increasing the size of pensions. The only exception was in 2015, when former Minister of Finance Kudrin made a proposal to hold early presidential elections in Russia, and United Russia, led by Dmitry Medvedev, saw in this initiative a threat to stability in society.

    And I invite you to think about the connection between Putin’s speech on this matter in 2015, when, after the Norman ultimatum, the country faced the threat of a nuclear war in Ukraine, with the dismissal of Kudrin by the President(!) Medvedev in 2011 after Kudrin began to object to the “fire” allocation by the method of printing of 3 trillion rubles for Military Industrial Complex.

    And now about what he said in 2017:

    So in Russia is rumored to be 42 million pensioners and an average pension of 13.7 thousand per month.
    Total 42 X 13.7 X 12 = 6.9 trillion rubles per year
    Of these, 3.7 trillion is the annual contribution to the pension fund by the active workers, and 3.2 is subsidized from the budget, which revenues in 2017 amounted to 15.1 trillion, and expenditures of 16.4 trillion rubles a year.

    The population of Russia is now 147 million, and the life expectancy in Russia is 69 years. Considering that for each year of age there are 147/69 = 2.1 million people, it turns out that by increasing the retirement age by 5 years the state will save (13.7 rubles X 12 x 5 years x 2.1 million = 1.7 trillion rubles a year and without raising the retirement age, the budget deficit will be 16.4-15.1 + 1.7 = 3 trillion rubles, that is, exactly the amount that President Dmitry Medvedev dismissed Kudrin for without provoking a depreciation of the ruble. That is, if you increase the flat tax scale from 13% to 16% this will be sufficient to compensate for the addition budget deficit caused by “too low age of retirement”.

    Let me remind you that Putin said that to create a class peace in society, an additional tax is necessary to finance compensation payments to those who became victims of mass robbery of the population in the 1990s, and now he will provide this peace by taking the last piece of bread from those whom he wanted to compensate?

    But don’t you think that this is rather a good attempt to disrupt the world championship in Russia, which cost the budget 0.68 trillion rubles and should bring 0.19 trillion rubles in one time and 50 billion rubles annually to the budget?

    And can you imagine what Trump will look like, who wants to meet with Putin, who even the World Cup can not hold, without complicating it with protests of the population, groaning under the heel of a tyrant supported by Trump in anticipation of American soldiers-liberators led by Hillary Clinton?

  87. Janos Skorenzy June 21, 2018 at 9:08 pm #

    Starbuck’s stock way down as they close 100 more stores than they expected to.


    Whites are rejecting the steaming PC crap that they are attempting to pour down our throats.

    • elysianfield June 22, 2018 at 11:44 am #

      Even more telling…they described the closures as occurring in “densely populated urban areas”…urban areas. The bastards are self-segregating…retreating to the equivalent of a gated community…this is rich.

  88. Pucker June 22, 2018 at 6:41 am #

    “Kill Moby Dick, the Great White Male!”

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  89. FincaInTheMountains June 22, 2018 at 7:20 am #

    Fourth Reich: The Enemy in the White House

    This U.S. president was never a partner. He is an aggressive opponent and should be treated as such.


    So, tell me, is she really a Hitler’s daughter?



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