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The FBI brass must have needed hazmat suits to scrub DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s report on agency misconduct around the 2016 elections. The result of their mighty exertions is something like 500 pages of pasteurized tofu. I will be surprised if a new scandal does not erupt over exactly how the scrubbing went down, and I wouldn’t count out the possibility of the original unscrubbed report emerging from deep inside the FBI itself. You have to wonder how embarrassed Mr. Horowitz is, and whether he, or others seeking to defend his integrity, might do anything about it.

In any case, the report managed to whitewash or evade altogether the most troubling angles of the FBI’s role around this garbage barge of institutional roguery. Among unanswered questions: just what were Bill Clinton and then Attorney General Loretta Lynch up to in their mysterious airport tête-à-tête July 2016, a few days before then FBI Director James Comey let Mr. Clinton’s wife, a presidential candidate, off the hook on the email server issue? How did Deputy FBI Director Andy McCabe consort with Clinton campaign bag-man and then Virginia Governor Terry McAuliffe in a way that dropped nearly $700,000 into Mrs. McCabe’s own campaign war chest for a state legislative race? How did the wife of FBI higher-up Bruce Ohr get on the payroll of the Fusion GPS company that brokered the nefarious Christopher Steele “dossier?” How did the FBI conceal the Clinton campaign’s payments for the Steele dossier from judges who ruled on FISA warrants against Trump campaign associates?

Instead, the OIG report focused on the now-shopworn “love-bird” emails between FBI counter-espionage chief Peter Strzok and FBI lawyer Lisa Page, finding only a vague “biased state of mind,” but nothing tied to any particular actions taken by them, despite overt declarations of intent by Strzok to “stop” Trump, presumably by using the powers of the FBI. Former FBI Director Comey got off with the equivalent of a wrist-slap on vague allegations of “insubordination” — to whom? What did insubordination have to do with Comey granting immunity to many Clinton campaign factotums before Mrs. Clinton was interviewed by the agency (not under oath, by the way, for reasons never advanced nor discussed in mainstream media).

If this is the end of all these matters then the FBI will remain permanently tarnished and the public interest will have been very poorly served by a tractable Inspector General who is sure to be a national joke in the months ahead — the pooch screwed by his own pack. The USA really can’t take a whole lot more institutional failure without irreparable political damage. Americans will become only more distrustful of our reckless leviathan state, and more inclined to disrespect it.

Meanwhile, the Mueller probe slogs on — a likely set-up from the get-go by the same cast of characters and their political allies, who set it in motion as a vengeful ruse against their own nefarious election meddling. They may easily find misdeeds in Donald Trump’s lifetime of sketchy real estate finaglings and associations, especially with mob interests that rule the New York City construction scene, and they have means to shift all that to the US attorney there, but after two years, the Russia collusion story itself looks like a figment.

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244 Responses to “Washed, Bleached and Rinsed”

  1. ozone June 15, 2018 at 10:04 am #

    “If this is the end of all these matters then the FBI will remain permanently tarnished and the public interest will have been very poorly served by a tractable Inspector General who is sure to be a national joke in the months ahead — the pooch screwed by his own pack. The USA really can’t take a whole lot more institutional failure without irreparable political damage. Americans will become only more distrustful off our reckless leviathan state, and more inclined to disrespect it.” -JHK

    I would agree, and I think the public interest has not been served by this institution (among others) for a long time now. So be it.

    As to the financial chicanery, other countries are looking for (and have found) alternate means and currencies to get around the reserve dollar. No gun-pointing can stop it. Count on this to accelerate as the trade wars ramp up.

    • sauerkraut June 15, 2018 at 11:53 am #

      “… other countries are looking for (and have found) alternate means and currencies to get around the reserve dollar. No gun-pointing can stop it. Count on this to accelerate as the trade wars ramp up.”

      But Ozone, I don’t understand. Don’t you think that insulting allies and threatening friends will work? Surely they wouldn’t disallow the military as a business expense?

    • Ishabaka June 15, 2018 at 12:06 pm #

      From J. Edgar Hoover’s blackmail files, to COINTELPRO, to the assassination of Vicki Weaver, to the present, the FBI has proven to be a racketeering influenced and corrupt organization. The USA would be better off without it.

      • babbat June 16, 2018 at 5:49 am #

        There’s really more serious stuff a foot right now with the FBI, I think the FBI is no longer even close to what it was intended to be it’s becoming more like a plain old secret police style agency. If anyone is wondering what’s going on with all that NSA data ? haha you’re going to freak out when the truth finally hits!
        Right now I don’t think all the pieces of the puzzle have come together , but wait for it! It’s being shared from the bowels of the FBI throughout the US. and the five I’s to neighborhood watch programs and other corporate agencies like amazon. When you grasp the full implication of this it will blow you away!

  2. Walter B June 15, 2018 at 10:08 am #

    Whitewashed and scrubbed indeed Jim! In a system where truth has been replaced by lies, accounting is based on fraud, and reality exists only within the individual mind (or mindless), all of the efforts to produce all of this crap are simple billable time for uncountable profit. And the profit is achieved utilizing graft, abuse and murder, sometimes on a grand scale. Fortunately for the Clintons, the ghost of “janet” Reno still strives to clean the feces off of their facade on an ongoing basis and fortunately for the FBI, they never had any credibility anyway thanks to J. Edgar right from the get go.

    Isn’t it funny how the financial morass only admits visitors come the Fall and that Summer seems to always be protected to allow for long dips in the oceans of leisure? I would expect that the feces will be held back from being shoveled into the fan until after Labor Day. However, with the growing abilities of the American public to either look the other way or simply not give a shit anyway, perhaps the decay can go on infinitely. I suppose that if the only thing you have to eat is crap, clever humans can develop a taste for shit in order to survive.

  3. Cavepainter June 15, 2018 at 10:24 am #

    Sorry Jim, only were it true that the American public has inclination to question analytically the staggeringly monumental issues looming like gathering storm clouds; the obsession of most is (and always has been) to simply sieve out any prod from reality that isn’t reassuring.

  4. JohnAZ June 15, 2018 at 10:30 am #

    Just a thought, is it possible that the cushion of cash flow into the EU, and others in the world, that is created by the difference between their level of tariffs against the US and our level of tariffs against them, is the only thing that keeps their collective boats afloat? If we put in “fair” levels of protection here or maybe worse, remove all tariffs, what will happen to the balance sheets of all these countries? Could it be that our $800 billion of trade deficits over the last so many years, have kept the world.economy from disaster? If so, is it right to clobber the US manufacturing sector over the years with unbalanced trade barriers giving proven advantage to overseas? We are still the number one consumer base of the world! It would make sense if consumer bases built up in these other areas over the years. Then more manufacturing would be needed to supply the increasing demand. Did not happen! Manufacturing moved overseas to get cheaper rates, and the US kept buying the stuff and the trade balance exploded. Trump is right! We did this to ourselves. Or maybe the Deep State in DC did it to all of us! Or maybe we had reached a point that the Deep State no longer cares about the US, (us) and are lackeys of the globalist New World Order. No wonder they want to destroy Trump and his tariff supporting minions. And no wonder the populist movements in the US, (us) are looking for ways to reject the DS gang of thieves. We definitely live in interesting times.

    • Georges1202 June 15, 2018 at 10:46 am #

      Don’t worry, the geniuses who shape our circus of a world are hard at work designing a manufacturing base that does away with those pesky workers and the temerity they have to demand a salary, vacations, pensions, health care, etc.. Soon it will be miles and miles of herky-jerky robots making salad shooters for….whom? We are headed for that glorious dream of an America that resembles that mythical town where everyone tries to get rich selling each other dry-cleaning.

      • Walter B June 15, 2018 at 1:34 pm #

        Rebuilding the American manufacturing base utilizing robots and only a few useless eaters to maintain the systems sounds pretty much like the Happy Dreams of the Wealthy Elite who rules over us all. Perhaps there is some logic and truth to the now famous Deagal site that claims a huge population drop in the next few years here in the US of A….


        Yes, we Baby Boomers are fast approaching our expiration dates, but perhaps there is more to it, at least for we crazy “Conspiracy Theorists”.

        • JohnAZ June 15, 2018 at 6:32 pm #

          A large population drop in the US, not if the Deep State keeps allowing unlimited immigration.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2018 at 2:03 pm #

      A few generations ago I whispered “plastics” into your shell like ear. Now I whisper, “refugees”. That’s where the money is Az. It’s a growth industry! And that’s what it’s all about, right? If you make a lot of money, it’s proof that you’re a good person, and that God loves you. And the babes like it too. No money, no honey.


      The Dow is down 218 pts. But the Tao is never down except that it is up too. Or it is neither up nor down. Or neither. Or both. Or all of the above simultaneously or none of the above simultaneously. In other words, it is free. And we are too if we go with It.

      • Walter B June 15, 2018 at 3:12 pm #

        What better way to deal with a horde of over-educated, hopelessly indebted Americans who swallowed the baited hooks of education and now cry for high paying, no work required employment? Bring in countless stone age primitives that are willing to live life at the dirt floor level that no one else cares to do while undermining the brats without income? Let them fight it out at the bottom so that those at the top are safe. I like it! It makes sense (if you are one of the Big Boys that is).

      • S M Tenneshaw June 15, 2018 at 9:14 pm #

        Or in the words of Gil Scott-Heron:

        This ain’t really your life
        Ain’t really your life
        Ain’t really ain’t nothing but a movie

  5. JohnAZ June 15, 2018 at 10:40 am #

    I do hope that people are finally starting to realize how completely the Deep State has dug into our polity. All evil forces are digging in to protect what has been established over the last thirty years. Trump said it well this AM in his impromptu news conference. He beat the Bush dynasty, he beat the Clinton dynasty, and is now fighting the Itelligence dynasty. The entire judicial system in the country is so saturated with and dominated by the Deep State that the DOJ is running the country. Until Neil Gorsuch. A crack in the dam has definitely opened.

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    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2018 at 2:06 pm #

      Yeah if the Government had just stayed small and out of our hair, the Corporations would have raped America even better. Every forest would now be a tree farm and every Appalachian hillside blasted to smithereens.

      Culture is upstream of politics and race is upstream of culture. There is no prosperity for all without a culture of oversight against the profiteers, those who steal light from our eyes, to whom vision is just a costly infection (Jim Carroll).

      • JohnAZ June 15, 2018 at 6:30 pm #

        And remember the corporations are globalist. They do not give one damn about the US if they can profit from our loss.

    • AlmanacSun June 15, 2018 at 2:53 pm #

      I agree with you. These biweekly blogs of JHK may not be long but I love reading them, so much so that I am happy to pay for the privilege. The polarization of the press does us all a huge disservice, whichever political hacks you “support”. Jim goes a great job of showing how the whole shootin’ match is an absolute disgrace, befitting the dying days of Empire.

  6. Tate June 15, 2018 at 10:42 am #

    The IG should be embarrassed?

    “We saw the car pull away from the curb with three men wearing balaclavas and holding automatic rifles, but we couldn’t be certain they were the suspects.”

    “No, they didn’t want to learn how to land the plane, but Middle Eastern aviation, who knows how that works?”

    “Yes, there were numerous bodies on the ground & the automatic rifle fire appeared to be coming from the hotel window, but we wanted to be sure before invading any guest’s privacy.”

    “The bales tested positive for heroin, but he had no priors so we thought it would be advisable to turn him loose.”

    “The meat in the freezer was identified as human, but she claims she bought it at Krogers.”

    “Sure, she had been dismissed with cause from five prior elder care facilities, but her referrals were glowing.”

    “We did have a few dozen complaints going back ten years, but nothing the last 3 months.”

    “That bridge was as safe as any other built in that era.”

    “I let him through. He said he lost the key to the bag and I had no reason to disbelieve him.”

    “You don’t question Nigerian royalty when you’ve been chosen to assist a noble enterprise.”

    “He was wearing a purple blazer, white spats & a monocle, but how many guys fit that description? Around here, prolly hundreds.”

    “The guy had his trousers down and the little girl on the bed was naked & sobbing uncontrollably, but I didn’t want to jump to conclusions.”

    “We did have a few dozen complaints going back ten years, but nothing the last 3 months.”

    “They were caught going through some filing cabinets in the Watergate building, but we couldn’t hold them without stronger evidence.”

    • pequiste June 15, 2018 at 11:04 am #

      Somehow Tate, you sound like a member of the Department of Just-Us.

      Either that or you are a screenwriter for one of TeeVee’s police programs.

      • Walter B June 15, 2018 at 1:54 pm #

        Naw, Tate’s probably just one of the many non-privileged masses that has been stopped and ticketed for the key fob hanging from their rear-view mirrors. Or worse, had the audacity to allow their inspection stickers to expire. “How DARE you violate the Laws of the Lowly – here’s your summons, you are lucky that I am letting you live!” Yessirree Bob, janet Rodham Clinton was accurate in it’s assessment that laws are for the little people. What part of that don’t we understand?

  7. 4014HAMPHEDGE June 15, 2018 at 10:45 am #

    US Code violations in the matter under discussion include:

    (Not necessarily limited to)

    18 USC 641
    18 USC 793 D;E;F
    18 USC 1001
    18 USC 1505
    18 USC 1515 B
    18 USC 1924
    18 USC 2071 B
    52 USC 30101
    52 USC 30121

    With lingering hope for the idea of innocence of youth, maybe Chelsea has clean hands and clear conscience and comes through this family nightmare she was born into.

    • draupnir June 15, 2018 at 3:18 pm #

      Give me a break. She got a lovely wedding at the expense of the destitute, disease ridden, starving Haitians. ,

  8. Luhrenloup June 15, 2018 at 10:54 am #

    “Yeah, but it’s the only game in town!”

    Canada Bill Jones’ reply on being told that a game
    in Cairo Illinois was crooked.

    • Georges1202 June 15, 2018 at 11:00 am #

      Reminds me of my old US Navy chow hall – the food wasn’t very good, but there was plenty of it.

      • Elrond Hubbard June 15, 2018 at 1:06 pm #

        “Nobody goes there anymore. It’s too crowded.” — Yogi Berra

    • daveed June 15, 2018 at 11:12 am #

      Man : There’s been a mistake in my change!

      Whipsnade : Ah, at long last, an honest man. Want to return some money?

      Man : No, I’m short!

      Whipsnade : Don’t brag about it. I’m only five-feet-eight myself.

      • elysianfield June 15, 2018 at 7:44 pm #

        …Goddamn Marxist….

  9. sprawlcapital June 15, 2018 at 11:08 am #

    Thanks for reminding us of some unanswered questions regarding, Terry McAuliffe, the tarmac meeting of the Obama AG and Clinton, and Fusion GPS. Maybe Congress can find out more before the 2018 elections.

  10. K-Dog June 15, 2018 at 11:13 am #

    I park a block away from where our Mariners baseball team plays ball. Striped baseball shirts were everywhere when I walked to my car to go home yesterday. I waited for my elevator to the third floor where I was parked. As I waited a dozens of tiny striped bugs hovered in the air around the elevator. They looked like tiny skinny bees with black and white body stripes.

    The bugs were hovering about a foot apart from each other in a cloud but every few seconds one of them would dash at one of the others. A bump and then they were back to hovering about where they started out from. What were they doing? Fighting it looked like but I suspect fucking was going on.

    The elevator arrived and I got in. It reeked of hydraulic fluid and smelled like a giraffes ass. I’ve been to a zoo and know what a giraffes ass smells like, it is the same. Getting off the elevator another cloud of bugs hovered before me. I walked around them to my car.

    Wind had blown thousands of the bugs into the car lot. The outside walls which were open for ventilation had let them in. How they all knew about the parking lot orgy and where to go I don’t know.

    It was a festive crowd of bumping bugs and outside a festive crowd of bumping people moved into our baseball stadium. Nothing suggested that all the bugs and all the people would soon be gone. But when I park this morning all the bugs and all people will be gone.

    So it was with Obama and so it now is with Trump. They and their cloud of bugs will soon be gone. We only have to wait a few years.

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    • volodya June 15, 2018 at 11:28 am #

      But the Deep State ticks will remain.

      • K-Dog June 15, 2018 at 11:53 am #


    • hmuller June 15, 2018 at 12:02 pm #

      So K-Dog,
      I would guess the millenials are the slam dancing, copulating bugs. But who is symbolized in your metaphoric tale by the smelly giraffe’s ass?

      • K-Dog June 15, 2018 at 2:01 pm #

        Giraffes are Golden and of Great stature with a presidential stance. They eat Bush while flies of the shallow state swirl about their asses hoping to get a piece of anything that falls out. Somewhere a giraffe searches for his favorite Bush to grab but nowhere can she be found. She has been missing since the big storm.

        Millennials line up across the street to get into the Showbox music venue a few blocks south some days. The lines are blocks long waiting to get in as I walk by on the other side of the street. It is fun to see the crowds lined up and then to find out which band is playing. True some will always dress to match the band, but more often people pick bands that already resemble them.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2018 at 2:11 pm #

      The great biologist J.B Haldane was asked what light his studies shed on the nature of God or Reality. “A predeliction for beetles”, he replied. Indeed Lovecraft said the next race to take over the Earth after Man will be a race of giant, intelligent beetles. They will attain the stars, just as many of the races before man did. We are one of the few races to have failed in their regard.

  11. pequiste June 15, 2018 at 11:14 am #

    “… with the European Union twisting slowly slowly in the wind over a gale of unraveling bad debt. ”


    Rather than being concerned with money and all that bad debt – after all, they, the E.C.B., can print Euros just as well as the Federal Reserve can; I suspect the E.U. (or with a better phonetic approach: Eee Ewww) is going to unravel over the unsavory details of their bizarre immigration policy that really is an Yzlamik invasion. And it seems the forces of lumpen-citizens becoming vaguely aware of it are finally ready to upset the Globalist-Euro-NWO applecart. (Please refer to recent Italian elections, Austrian Muslim kick-outs, and Victor Orban speeches for details.)

  12. Paulo June 15, 2018 at 11:39 am #

    Just now read, Cohen will cooperate. So, we’ll see a bit more over time.

    Regardless of this Report, or any other, Trump is just a plain old lying asshole who should never had been elected. The same can be said for Hillary and every one of the sleazebags elected the last 50 years. They kill by the millions and pretend to be saving the world. Even church boy Carter created the Carter Doctrine. Bill Clinton should have been jailed in Arkansas.

    The trade war that was officially started today should see a rapid US decline. Think of it as chemo-therapy….maybe radiation. Only an economic shock will save the World from this cancerous empire. War is looming, and maybe another US civil war. If I lived in a US city I would be assembling a bug-out kit for sure.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2018 at 2:14 pm #

      And Justin True Dough is just a joke. Not powerful enough to be really bad – just a servant of those who are.

      Imagine if the president of Japan and his family toured America dressed as cowboys. That’s the impression Trudeau and his family left in India by dressing as traditional Hindus.

  13. volodya June 15, 2018 at 11:49 am #

    I said it before that corruption on this scale, from the ludicrous Comey Cover Up, to the preposterous Mueller Fishing Expedition, to the up-coming Democrat push for Trump’s impeachment, will change the societal landscape and not in a good way. The pity is that the very people who constantly pull rank on the basis of their alleged superiority are behind all this.

    These people are too witless to understand what k-Dog just told us and what I’ve said and others have said in prior posts, there’s gonna be a presidential election in 2020 for which the campaigning will start next year, in the meantime there’s the 2018 congressional dust-ups. If you don’t like elections results, well, the clock keeps ticking and before you know it, there will be another vote.

    We’ll see what the Democrats do when they regain control of the Senate and the House and the Presidency as they inevitably will. Will they repeal the corporate tax cut, will they bring back net neutrality, will they do all the stuff that supposedly indicates existence on a higher plane?

    I doubt they’ll do anything of the sort, especially with corporate tax rates. Their billionaire pay-masters will insist.

    • PeteAtomic June 15, 2018 at 1:23 pm #

      “I doubt they’ll do anything of the sort, especially with corporate tax rates. Their billionaire pay-masters will insist.”

      absolutely! Watch for the big scramble for “free trade” again by the democrats. Their multinational overlords will not abide higher paid, often unionized US labor.

      “Average Factory Worker Salary. The average rate for a Factory Worker is $12.16 per hour. ” from http://www.payscale.com

      “Hence the incipient rise of South-East Asia, which offers a big labour pool with low wages and mostly market-friendly policy environments. The average factory worker in China earns $27.50 per day, compared with $8.60 in Indonesia and $6.70 in Vietnam.Mar 12, 2015” The Economist.

      The MSM is already on the ‘US consumers will pay more’ bandwagon. Of course, if your average US factory worker is being paid 12.60/an hour vs. a Chinese worker making 27.50 a day, US consumers will pay more, naturally.

    • S M Tenneshaw June 15, 2018 at 9:24 pm #

      Oo oo, I know what they’ll give us:

      Trans-species bathrooms, that’s what.

  14. volodya June 15, 2018 at 11:51 am #

    I’m repeating myself but the US dollar is a glorified pizza coupon, a piece of paper not just used for pizzas but generally as a medium of exchange. And not just in the US.

    So it boggles the fucking mind why movers and shakers in the US, both inside government and outside, seem to be doing their damndest to destroy the very thing they need to live. They may have “assets” of various sorts, but they rely on money, that being the US dollar, to get what they need. After all, they can’t chip off a piece of their real estate and bring it to the grocery store to get food. If they bring a stock certificate or a mutual fund statement to the local supermarket they ain’t leaving with any meat and veggies.

    So far the ludicrous scam of printing dollars in return for boatloads of Chinese-made Walmart crap has stood upright. But it’s cracking and its cracking isn’t just manifested in inflationary pressure in securities markets or in medical care or education costs. The Chinese are off-loading green-backs in far-flung investments in places like Pakistani infrastructure, farms in Africa, real estate in Sydney and Vancouver, the list is a long one. So far the Chinese have been successful in the exchange of their bucks for this other stuff. But they know that the dollar’s stint as the global currency is ending. That’s why the Chinese are putting it through all these laundry cycles. The only ones who seem to be blissfully ignorant are the American plutocracy. So it’s not just the EU that’s set up in an absurd and un-workable economic and monetary arrangement.

    • sauerkraut June 15, 2018 at 12:38 pm #

      Nice reality check.

      I wonder how many who post here can see his own responsibility by voting for this?

      • volodya June 15, 2018 at 12:58 pm #

        That’s a very good point, as no regime exists without the acquiescence of the people it rules. And this regime, without question, was put into place via the mechanism of regular elections.

        Having said that, there is a foundation of lies that undergirds the system, a well thought out framework of baloney that’s been generations in the making, that gets periodic up-dates from Wall Street, the Davos Class, Washington and its various legislative and “think-tank” appendages, the Republican and Democratic parties, all of which was designed to separate you from your money, to re-direct it to fewer and fewer hands.

        The lies were repeated and repeated and repeated so that even though to the normally common sensical and skeptical mind they just couldn’t be true, they acquired a patina of respectability. Millions of people couldn’t be wrong, right? Well, no, wrong, millions of people sure as hell can be wrong, especially if they’ve been actively misled by generations of men in suits, with academic and professional credentials and awards and accolades adorning their office walls.

        But this is where things are at, an economic set-up that lacks the benefit of logic, coherence, adherence to natural and physical law. Can such a system stand up-right? No, it can’t, but as you say, it’s not like there weren’t elections. This regime that put this unworkable set-up in place exists via popular acquiescence and the way the regime comes down is to remove same. It’s not as if not enough people haven’t woken up to the truth of things.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2018 at 2:19 pm #

      Don’t worry, there’s Plan. Google the “Amero”. Someday we’ll wake up with a new currency that will take us closer to Global Government. And yes, the sheep will be fleeced but good. They still have too much. We still aren’t a 3rd World Country yet….

      You lack faith, brutha.

    • Tate June 15, 2018 at 3:24 pm #

      The greenback dollar, or the “green bag” dollar, good for what? Good for how long, and for whom?


    • elysianfield June 15, 2018 at 7:53 pm #

      So it boggles the fucking mind why movers and shakers in the US, both inside government and outside, seem to be doing their damndest to destroy the very thing they need to live.”

      It’s a long game/short game thing. Cheap dollars import jobs, beggaring our trade partners…a race to the bottom…in the short game, we gain manufacturing jobs, and a weak dollar promotes inflation, which is good for debt servicing.

      In the long term…well, who cares?

  15. janet June 15, 2018 at 11:57 am #

    “after two years, the Russia collusion story itself looks like a figment.” — JHK

    20 indictments, 5 guilty pleas, 2 ankle bracelets, 1 imprisonment… a figment of Mueller’s imagination? Hardly.

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    • JohnAZ June 15, 2018 at 12:29 pm #

      And not one direct connection between Trump’s campaign and the Russians. Just ad of media BS trying to connect imaginary dots. It will be a pleasure watching the Mueller jet going down in flames.

      • janet June 15, 2018 at 1:33 pm #

        Wasn’t Manafort Trump’s campaign manager? Seems like a direct connection to me.

        In March 2016 Manafort joined the Trump Campaign and became campaign chairman. During the entire time on the campaign, Manafort was in frequent contact with Konstantin Kilimnik, who has worked with Manafort for over ten years. Kilimnik had active ties to Russian intelligence during this period. Direct connection to Russia.

        Manafort said he and Kilimnik discussed an array of subjects related to the presidential campaign, including the hacking of the DNC’s emails. Direct connection with Russia.

        • janet June 15, 2018 at 2:18 pm #

          By the way, Manafort, who was Trump’s campaign manager, just got sent to jail, by a judge who reviewed all the evidence of his illegal behavior. When the evidence is reviewed a lot of people are going to jail. And Trump will have to vacate the White House.

          • Ol' Scratch June 15, 2018 at 3:50 pm #

            You were (or are playing) the teacher’s pet and a little tattletale in school, weren’t you? You just ooze sanctimony.

          • Walter B June 15, 2018 at 6:06 pm #

            Ooze alright Scratch, like the kind you find in the bottom of a Port-A-Potty.

          • JohnAZ June 15, 2018 at 6:24 pm #

            Hey Janet, get your facts straight. Manafort has not been convicted of anything. He has had his bail revoked by a liberal judge because of political pressure aimed at stopping him from influencing witnesses. Nice try!

        • Exscotticus June 15, 2018 at 3:55 pm #

          > Wasn’t Manafort Trump’s campaign manager? Seems like a direct connection to me.

          There’s no evidence that Manafort colluded with the Russians to unlawfully manipulate the elections, either.

          Speaking with Russians is not a felony. Speaking with Russians about a top news story (DNC email hacking) is not a felony. The FBI colluding with the Justice Department to thwart a criminal investigation is a felony. The DNC leadership colluding against Bernie for Hillary is a felony. Lots of felonies here; just none involving Trump.

          And so what if Manafort was Trump’s campaign manager. Hillary was Obama’s Secretary of State. So that makes Obama guilty, yes?

          • hmuller June 15, 2018 at 4:27 pm #

            Janet wears special glasses which filter out all evidence of Hillary crimes. I think they sell them on CNN.

          • Walter B June 15, 2018 at 6:09 pm #

            Why do you think j-bot is not HRC herself hmueller? After all, Her Not So Royal Highness has enough free time on her hands these days and sufficient venom in her fangs to come here and assault us for sport.

          • JohnAZ June 15, 2018 at 6:27 pm #

            Well said!

        • JohnAZ June 15, 2018 at 6:26 pm #

          Manafort was campaign manager for a very short time until Trumpers understood what a threat he was. Sayanara.

        • Billy Hill June 16, 2018 at 7:56 am #

          “…the hacking of the DNC emails…”

          Whether they were hacked is a theory, as is the assertion they were downloaded to a thumb drive.

          For reference one can view the Nation (downloaded) or The Hill (probably hacked).

          A rather large glaring imperfection in The Hill analysis is the following sentence they were obliged to include, as much of their argument hinges on it:

          “The DNC would not provide details about its upload speeds in July of 2016.”

          The reluctance of the DNC the be open and sharing naturally arouses suspicion that they are hiding something.

          What’s Donna Brazile up to these days?

          • ozone June 16, 2018 at 10:16 pm #

            “What’s Donna Brazile up to these days?”

            Hopefully, NOTHING, and without a steady or secure source of income. Oopsie, Donna, time to get a job out in the real world. Good luck with that; jobs that require actual “doing stuff” aren’t gained by mouth-running. No experience driving a forklift? Sorry, we can’t use you… how ’bout pallet stacker? No? Try down the street, they need someone to push hand-bills for Rent-a-Center. The duck costume is a little hot, but hey, a paycheck’s a paycheck, amirite?

    • elysianfield June 15, 2018 at 7:55 pm #

      You forgot to mention the other 15 ham sandwiches that were also indicted…(yawn).

  16. wm5135 June 15, 2018 at 12:03 pm #

    Mr. Kunstler,
    “The USA really can’t take a whole lot more institutional failure without irreparable political damage.”


    Thank you again for your thoughts.

  17. volodya June 15, 2018 at 12:05 pm #

    Kesa Anna, this is w.r.t. last week’s discussion: I don’t know about you but when I was a kid I had to fight other kids, which I viewed as a normal part of childhood both to protect myself and defend my rights, but I was free of sexual predation from adults. So were the kids around me. And that’s what’s at issue here. It never came up among us, to watch out for Mr So-and-So or Father So-and-So, because he’ll be licking your dink. Not once.

    Now, that may be anomalous, maybe we lived in a cave, maybe we were lucky, maybe in other societies the un-spoken norm is that when a kid goes to church choir or school that there’s sexual activity with the priest or teacher or choir-master, something to be expected but never to be mentioned. But not where I grew up. And I suspect, it wasn’t the norm in other places either. I strongly suspect that there’s a general societal expectation that kiddies be free of such stuff.

    In any case, you’re a chick so you and I wouldn’t share the same head-space in this particular regard, but if I go 72 hours without a roll in the hay I start hallucinating naked women.

    The wife can say what she likes, that she’s got a head-ache, she’s not in the mood, she’s sick, she’s tired, but it doesn’t matter, hubby needs to get laid. Not just once in a blue moon but roughly every other day or they start going nuts. Because that’s how he’s wired up. And no less an authority than Ann Landers said to women during the far off Dark Ages, if you don’t do it, someone else will. Now given that prostitution is almost exclusively men hiring women, I don’t think I’m too far off-base in thinking that most guys need regular sex. You can deplore it all you like, but its one of those bits of reality that our grannies used to call The Facts of Life.

    Now just think of an entire institution made up by men – the Roman Catholic priesthood – for whom celibacy is a life-long requirement. Is this even remotely reasonable? Given my own experience, I say it’s lunacy. Should we be surprised that Roman Catholic priests seriously misbehave for want of sexual outlet? We shouldn’t be, but we should also have given the Roman Catholic Church a much more thorough scouring over this issue of sexual behavior, including this ludicrous celibacy requirement. And when I say scouring, I mean up to and including disbandment and banishment.

    And the Pope should have been called on the carpet. What did the Pope do, what did he know, when did he know it? It’s like Harry Houdini said all those years ago, The Buck Stops Here.

    If this issue of priestly abuse is mostly bogus, if it’s massively overblown, then the Pope should speak up. Tell it like it is. The Buck stops with him.

    • capt spaulding June 15, 2018 at 1:16 pm #

      The book “The Fourth Turning”, predicts that towards the end of the empire, people will lose confidence in their institutions. This appears to be happening here in every area you look at. It’s really miserable weather today, temp is 99 degrees, humidity at 82%. I’m sweatin’ like a priest at a Little League softball game.

      • volodya June 15, 2018 at 1:42 pm #

        I’m sweatin’ like a priest at a Little League softball game.- Capt.

        Sounds like a scorcher.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2018 at 2:24 pm #

      It’s possible. The system worked fairly well for long periods of time. But the Priests must be consecrated to a higher ideal, and willing and able to sublimate such energies to it. Even intellectuals and athletes do a bit of this. You should abstain from intercourse at least a few days before a bout. And as Miles Davis said, if he came during the day, he won’t be able to “hit” that night on stage.

      Impossible for normal men? Then normal men shouldn’t become priests. Nor those lower than normal men. Only men above the common herd.

    • K-Dog June 16, 2018 at 2:05 am #

      The wife can say what she likes, that she’s got a head-ache, she’s not in the mood, she’s sick, she’s tired, but it doesn’t matter, hubby needs to get laid.

      I bet sometimes she says. ‘What’s the matter? We already did it.’ To which you say. ‘That was 12 hours ago!’.

      I know the conversation. Thirty years can go by and the conversation stays the same.

      • GreenAlba June 16, 2018 at 10:20 am #

        Well I just think it’s nice that you’re still having the conversation with the same person, K-Dog 🙂 .

        • K-Dog June 16, 2018 at 7:43 pm #

          As a woman you would.

          • GreenAlba June 17, 2018 at 10:52 am #

            Indeed (I kinda thought you’d say that!).

            I like loyalty and fidelity wherever it comes from – including those ladies whose posts I read elsewhere whose husbands have a lower sex drive than them (I realise it’s not the norm, but it’s not rare) or whose husbands are on medication that makes things ‘difficult’. Unselfishness is good – we need more of it.

            I’m aware, however, that it’s harder for the fellas. If I were a believer in ‘intelligent design’ I’d be suspecting the designer had a bad day and hadn’t looked far enough forward to when imperatives would be different from on the savannah 🙂 .

  18. malthuss June 15, 2018 at 12:06 pm #



    • Tate June 15, 2018 at 2:42 pm #

      You think Colin Flaherty has been deplatformed for good, malty?

    • Janos Skorenzy June 17, 2018 at 3:06 pm #

      Why do you think I’m so against Blacks? Maybe becuz I’m Black and I like to eat.

  19. malthuss June 15, 2018 at 12:08 pm #

    Silver at 16.66, on 6.6.
    NDX was trading 6666.66 this year ……

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2018 at 6:02 pm #

      Jared Kushner has a building who address is 666.

  20. JustSaying June 15, 2018 at 12:19 pm #

    pasteurized tofu! I love that!

    Fortunately, even the pasteurized report is a bombshell, especially the part about the Obama email account which I ALWAYS suspected was the case.

    The rest of it will come out eventually because anybody with half a brain can see what went down.

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  21. wm5135 June 15, 2018 at 12:31 pm #

    volodya just think strip mining without environmental protections.

    The alcohol always kills the yeast before all of the sugar is consumed.

    The dollar is the sour dough starter for the Chinese, the global taste for sour dough bread is in decline. How clearly stated is the list of products that the United States feels other nations need to buy more of to level the playing field? One only has to look at the tax code to see that we have subsidized our corporate base. Fair trade, laissez-faire, when these types of ideas are used today they are more akin to Palin Word Salad than meaningful discussion of trade.

    • volodya June 15, 2018 at 12:38 pm #

      Sour dough starter is a good way to put it, without a “sour dough starter” the Chinese would never have been able to get to where they are. That, and also the benefit of tens of thousands of US factories moving to China. The Chinese had zero clue, they could not have gotten an industrial base up and running without American knuckle-head CEOs handing it over to them and teaching them how to run it.

  22. volodya June 15, 2018 at 12:32 pm #

    Meanwhile, the Mueller probe slogs on — a likely set-up from the get-go by the same cast of characters and their political allies, who set it in motion as a vengeful ruse against their own nefarious election meddling. – JHK

    That’s how I see it, a ruse, a diversion from what Democrats and their Deep State co-conspirators had themselves done. You have it in writing, the Steele – Deep State Dossier, you have the exchange of money, you have it all there, yet it escapes the notice of law – cough – enforcement.

    Not only a ruse but a pretext also, for the purpose of digging up dirt, any ole’ dirt will do. And, if they’re too incompetent to find what any ten year old can find, then they’ll make shit up.

  23. wm5135 June 15, 2018 at 12:41 pm #

    malthus have you read this, “Post Scriptum on Scripal”, over at the Vineyard of the Saker?

    Note: This is probably not a read for everyone here.

    • malthuss June 15, 2018 at 4:19 pm #

      I skimmed it. Interesting but very wordy and complicated.

    • GreenAlba June 16, 2018 at 10:37 am #

      I read the lot. An interesting ideological tour, if a bit of a pot-pourri.

      Mostly seemed to centre on the ‘Judaic question’, ending with a defence of Holocaust denial.

      I had to look up the German author mentioned in this regard, as well as the “British housewife turned song-writer, Alison Chabloz, guilty of posting online satirical songs on sundry Judaic claims related to WW2.” I hadn’t heard of her.

      Turns out said Alison C. “claimed the Holocaust was “a bunch of lies” and referred to Auschwitz as a “theme park”.

      I’m getting a better idea of where you’re coming from now, wm.

      ‘Sundry Judaic claims related to WW2’ – that’s a good one. I wonder if anyone thought to file the Nuremberg trial documentation away under that one.

      I see she got a suspended sentence. I wouldn’t shut her up, though, I’d put her on Question Time on a Thursday evening and let the audience question her face to face. It’s hosted in a different town every week, so I’d put her on every Thursday evening for about 5 years. I suspect by the end of that she’d have had enough of shooting her mouth off about the Auschwitz theme park.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2018 at 9:40 pm #

        Einstein was a racist yet he claimed “racism was a disease of White people”. Hypocrisy comes so easily to them….

  24. BikeDr June 15, 2018 at 1:22 pm #

    It has annoyed me for a long time how different governmental entities are constantly investigating one another with phalanxes of attorneys being paid for the circle jerk. Seventeen “special” intelligence agencies with their own special info trying to remain relevant by hiding what they know and trying to one up their counterparts to garner a bit more status. Security. We pay to keep stuff secret and pay to find stuff out and after a few years they all retire on gold plated pensions or move to the private sector and show them how to play.
    Most of these useless eaters need a job like a DMV clerk actually doing something for the public. The trick in government is to influence policy but bear no responsibility for it.
    I think it pretty clear the FBI did not want to work for Trump. I wouldn’t want to work for Trump. I really do not get the premise of the Muller investigation–We all knew that Trump was tight with Russians even so far as suspecting that they had paid him for some of his projects before the election. And people elected him anyway! We knew the Russians preferred Trump so why call it collusion as if it was a nefarious plot? It’s right there in the open like we(USA) prefer ISIS to Bashar. So Ken Starr takes down $60 million to research a $100,000 Whitewater land deal that morphs into something else and now Muller is cherry picking a few dirty tricks to make it seem like a conspiracy.
    I just finished the Devil’s Chessboard by Talbot. We thought we made policy with discussions, debate, and votes but we have a long history of secrecy, collusion, and conspiracy and bringing it to light is just as difficult today as back then.

    • janet June 15, 2018 at 2:03 pm #

      “Muller is cherry picking a few dirty tricks to make it seem like a conspiracy.” –BikeDr

      Not a conspiracy, BikeDr. Straight up illegal activity that should concern anyone who respects the rule of law and democracy. Trump got 63 million votes. Clinton got 66 million.

      George Papadopoulos was Trump’s foreign policy adviser during the Campaign. He had contact with a Russian agent who informed him that he just returned from Moscow where he met with high-level Russian government officials, and that they have “dirt” on Clinton in the form of “thousands of emails,” according to Papadopoulos’ guilty plea. Direct and illegal connection to Russia.

      The Russians did not necessarily just convey that they possessed stolen emails. The Russians previewed to Papadopoulos that they could help with disseminating these stolen emails. Direct and illegal connection to Russia.

      • JohnAZ June 15, 2018 at 6:16 pm #

        The rule of law you say. The rule of law is the electoral college that prevents the dictatorship of mob rule states like California over the rest of us. No.2 is we are not a democracy, we are a republic. You liberals have been trying to connect these inconsequential people to Trump and like Mueller you will come up empty because there is nothing there. Remember 2016, Trump was not even allowed any classified data from the administration until he was nominated. Hard to influence much of anything with no information.

        I for one thank the people who exposed the corruption and criminality of the DNC against itself. Whether domestic sources, which most indicators say it was, or the Russians they saved the US from the most corrupt political group in our history, including Watergate.

    • JohnAZ June 15, 2018 at 6:21 pm #

      Guess who runs the US. The lawyers! Wouldn’t you like to be able to create your own job environment? Second the judges. Not Congress or the executive branch like it is supposed to be. Nowhere in the Constitution is it directed that the judicial branch can create law. Only interpret for constitutionality.

  25. volodya June 15, 2018 at 1:38 pm #

    I can’t know what was in that worm-farm in Comey’s head, but maybe his public statements that supposedly cost Hillary the election, at least according to Democrats, were meant as obfuscation of his comical email cover-up, to make it look like there was diligence in a process that appears to have had neither process nor diligence, that appeared to skip over abundantly obvious malfeasance simply to avoid a hand-over of Presidential power to Trump, someone that everyone ensconced in the Deep State considered to be ludicrously unsuitable and unworthy of that high office.

    Like Comey said, he figured that no matter what, Hillary would win. But no, he had no political bias, no sir. No, see, if he thought the race was up in the air he STILL would’ve spoken up. Sure, he was just tryin’ to do the right thing.

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  26. Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2018 at 1:56 pm #

    Only 48 posts? Considering the lateness of the hour (and hour is very late), it can only mean the commentariat is displeased. If the post was about raccoons there would already be a hundred comments. “Hillary Good, Trump Bad”, these college graduates silently scream at the unrelenting screen. Good thing they have no guns or they would be shopping for a new monitor.

    The Hour approaches (in the Muslim sense). Are you right with God as you understand Him, Her, or It?

    • Ol' Scratch June 15, 2018 at 3:47 pm #

      I’m pleased, just busy.

    • Exscotticus June 15, 2018 at 4:35 pm #

      I’m surprised JHK didn’t mention that a guy who used his personal email account for government business was put in charge of investigating Hillary for using her personal email account for government business.

    • daveed June 17, 2018 at 10:16 am #

      Every additional post by you (and the Hillary-phobic Russky), and other compulsive wannabe bloggers here, makes it increasingly less likely that I’ll tune in to the Kunstler Korral next time. I suspect others might agree. There are many other options out in there in the InterWebs. And so much to be learned. The Raccoon site looks better all the time.

  27. messianicdruid June 15, 2018 at 2:35 pm #

    A bit off topic; Sessions quoting Romans 13 to encourage us to “obey the law” is infuriating when the ASSUMPTION is made that it is man’s laws instead of God’s Law that are being referred to.

    To think that God gave anyone the authority to make up shit [ while ignoring the Word ] and we are some how obligated to obey them – and worse- while they act above the [ any ] law, must be challenged.

    “The Protestant clergy who favored the American Revolution were heirs to an interpretation of Romans 13 that went back to the Reformation. Reformation theologians often used Romans 13 to bolster support for law and order, most notoriously when Luther justified the violent suppression of a peasant uprising. But in a long exposition of the passage, John Calvin argued that all the powers that be were ordained by God, including not just the king but also all the lesser magistrates. Those lower ranked officials were expected to resist kings “when they tyrannise and insult over the humbler of the people,” and Calvin listed the people in the Bible who had resisted “slavish obedience to the depraved wishes” of lawfully constituted authority. Where Loyalists invoked the law-and-order interpretation of Romans 13, Patriot clergy argued that only just authorities were to be obeyed.”

    And by “just authorities” is meant those public servants who, themselves, submit to higher authority.

    The Creator, His Anointed, We the People, our Employees [ delegated authority ], Contractors.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2018 at 6:10 pm #

      Yes, as Adams said, the Revolution wouldn’t happened without “the Black Brigade” or Ministers who were on board. And the Great Awakening that preceded it and made ready the soil.

      Consider what we have now – Franklin Graham protesting illegal families being split up at the border. And his Dad was all for mixed racial marriages. No doubt he is as well. And they are better than many others….

      • Tate June 16, 2018 at 12:49 pm #

        I was trying to figure out what you meant by “the Black Brigade” and here is the only thing I found that made any sense in that context,


        referred to as the “Black Robe Regiment,” not literally a military organization but referred to as such by the British, in sum, the combined influence & efforts of the clergy in colonial America in fomenting & supporting the Revolution.

  28. Ol' Scratch June 15, 2018 at 3:46 pm #

    Americans will become only more distrustful of our reckless leviathan state, and more inclined to disrespect it.

    Great post today, Jim! I guess I’m ahead of the curve with respect to the above. I’m totally distrustful of the federal shit show and I’m pretty sure I couldn’t possibly disrespect it any more than I already do. But I’m willing to keep an open mind about all that and ramp it up some more if the conditions dictate. Total collapse is the only way out of our current mess.

  29. amb June 15, 2018 at 4:02 pm #

    US law enforcement and intelligence are pits of corruption and evil. We need to dismantle completely and create new agencies. Existing agencies are too diseased to be cleaned out or rebuilt. Many of the creepiest and most evil beings that you could ever find on this planet are in the NSA, CIA, FBI, etc. The American people in general are clueless about this. There is no conspiracy theory here, it is the real deal.

    • bob June 15, 2018 at 4:54 pm #

      This whole shithole mess is too much for the brain. As I always say:when non reality is in the driver’s seat, take a look around to see where you are going.

    • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2018 at 5:06 pm #

      True enough. But they have the power and authority to crush you like a grape.

      When I saw the Bernard Kerik takedown I thought (to myself), if they want to, they can destroy anybody for anything.

      Keep your head down and stay relatively anonymous might be the best way to proceed at this point in time.


  30. FincaInTheMountains June 15, 2018 at 4:57 pm #

    Regarding Donald Trump’s birthday

    Trump immediately after the press conference, at which he announced the end of the 63-year Korean War, endorsed via Twitter Katie Arrington, who during the election campaign openly advocated the transformation of the Republican Party into the Trump’s party, and wished her rival a Republican congressman from the North Carolina Mark Sanford, who repeatedly spoke against him, along with the Clinton Democrats, to go live in Argentina, where his mistress lives.

    This happened 4 hours before the closure of polling stations and exit polls clearly showed the influence of Trump’s endorsement and the defeat of Mark Sanford sent a message to all Republican candidates who will oppose Trump.

    This Trump tweet, finished the political career of a Republican Clintonoid a year after his friend and associate Mitch McConnell, the Republican leader in the Senate, forced them to pass an anti-Trump law that prohibits President Trump from repealing anti-Russian sanctions on his birthday, 7 hours after the Republican Whip and close friend of Trump Scalise was shot from a sniper rifle while playing golf.

    The former director of the FBI Comey, who fabricated the “evidence”, on the basis of which essentially a separate intelligence agency with a very broad authority was created, which was called “the office of Mueller’s special prosecutor to investigate the cooperation of Trump’s election campaign with Russian hackers who cracked the server of the Democratic Party”, on Trump’s birthday got a report of the DOJ Inspector General which allows him to be held accountable for the way he investigated the case of Hillary Clinton.


    And Hillary Clinton herself exactly one year after Trump was congratulated on his birthday by shooting his friend and the Republican Whip in Congress Scalise, was congratulated with the message that, her server, which she illegally used for state correspondence, foreigners (including Al-Qaeda and ISIS) was hacked whenever they wanted to, and now the case of the murder of the US ambassador Stevens in Libya looks like this:


    US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton posted on her server the information that Ambassador Stevens, threatening to inform President Obama and Congress about sending Gaddafi weapons to Islamists in Syria, is on a secret CIA base in Benghazi and went to bed, turning off the phones.

    And ISIS fighters, while she slept, hacked on to her server, found out the exact location of this CIA base, took it by storm and killed the ambassador in the most brutal way, and then posted a video of his murder on the Internet so that the US Secretary of State could finally have another orgasm and say again WOW!

    The establishment media naturally immediately tried to blurt out the results of the investigation of the Inspector General, clinging to his words that the numerous violations by the FBI director Comey of investigative guidelines do not allow to conclude that they were dictated by political preferences, but the Republicans immediately challenged this thesis.

    First of all, it is not the business of the Inspector General to draw conclusions about the reasons for the Comey’s violation of the investigative guidelines; his task is to fix these violations. And among these violations is the correspondence of his deputy Strzok, in which he promised his mistress and FBI officer Page that he would not allow Trump to become president despite the overwhelming support of American voters. If this is not political motivation, then I really do not know what is.

    The fact is that the entire US Department of Justice is captured by Clintonoids and even the US Inspector General, obviously sympathetic to Trump, can not confirm with his investigation that the bureaucratic top of the FBI is trying to abolish the election results and impose the dictatorship of Hillary Clinton on the American people.

    There is simply no one to investigate her crimes until a cleansing of the Justice Department from her supporters, and the press shilling for her is almost by default. This can only be changed through imposing martial law by Trump, and / or the midterm elections in November. Most of Trump’s supporters in Congress and the Senate theoretically allow him to cope with the conspirators (although personally I am sure that now he can’t avoid introducing martial law), and in this sense, the report of the Inspector General was the best gift for Trump on his birthday.

    Particularly noteworthy is the reaction to this report by Trey Gowdy, who has access to the most secret documents of the Department of Justice. Trump tries to stop Mueller’s investigation, accusing the Department of Justice of spying on his election campaign using US counterintelligence, and just a few days ago Trey Gowdy claimed that he was familiar with the grounds for such surveillance and considered them legitimate. But after getting acquainted with the report of the Inspector General, including its secret part, he refused to confirm this opinion and even refuted the conclusion, or rather the opinion of the Inspector General, stating that the deputy director of the FBI Strzok was not only politically motivated but became a member of the Mueller team nominated to overthrow Trump.

    After that, even Trey Gowdy’s past defense of the FBI is working for Trump, as long as Gowdy defended his home department, he was referred to by all democratic media and he became a cross-party guru, despite the fact that it was he who, three years ago, unleashed the Servergate on Hillary Clinton. Moreover, his authority now also works toward the martial law that Trump may need to announce in the very near future. In any case, now he has all the legal grounds for this. But most importantly, and above all, it works with a terrible force to win not just for the Republican, but for Trump’s party in the midterm elections, which are coming with the inevitability of November coming after June, and martial law is still something extraordinary.

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    • S M Tenneshaw June 16, 2018 at 3:39 pm #

      Martial law????? Gurl, u cray cray.

  31. janet June 15, 2018 at 5:46 pm #

    “Speaking with Russians is not a felony.” — Exscotticus

    The Trump campaign operatives were speaking with Russian intelligence (GRU, Armed Forces of the Russian Federation).

    Why don’t you try meeting with Russian intelligence about American elections and see if it is a felony or not?

    • JohnAZ June 15, 2018 at 8:26 pm #

      No they weren’t. These were business folks talking with Russian business folks. Example was Exxon talking to Russian oil companies about developing the Karan Sea. Only when the Dems decided to attack Trump with the Russian collusion did Russia become the enemy again. Hillary gave the reset button and rights to uranium in business moves with Russia. This whole Russian scheme is such a crock of BS invented by the experts of baloney, the liberal DNC and the rest of the corrupt Democratic Party.

      If anyone was dealing with the Russian intelligence group, it was the Dems trying to generate the Steele dossier and all the other BS.

      • hmuller June 15, 2018 at 11:28 pm #

        Let’s ask Janet how she feels about American Intelligence chiefs trying to manipulate an election and failing. Then they refuse to recognize the results and try every illegal dirty trick in the book to overthrow a duly elected President.

        Well, I’ve got news for Janet. The military, law enforcement, veterans and gun owners support Trump. Her crowd can engage in virtue signalling, Tourette’s like comments, and primal screaming till the cows come home.

    • Exscotticus June 15, 2018 at 11:26 pm #

      > The Trump campaign operatives were speaking with Russian intelligence

      Even if that was true, did they do so knowingly? Intentionally? Where’s the evidence?

      You do realize that the AG report just exonerated your G-Spot girl—Hillary—because she didn’t “intentionally” break the law. That was the sole mitigating factor: intent.

      “Oh! Did I just email state secrets using my own personal email account which I specifically asked to be set up precisely to avoid using the official email? Well if you say so! But I didn’t *intentionally* do so!”

      • Exscotticus June 15, 2018 at 11:32 pm #

        Here’s the FBI talking about Hillary’s IT guy—the one who *knowingly* set up her personal email to avoid using the official email…

        Agent 1 replied: “Awesome. Lied his ass off.”

        He continued: “Went from never inside the scif [sensitive compartmented information facility] at [Clinton’s residence], to looked in when it was being constructed, to remove the trash twice, to troubleshot the secure fax with HRC a couple times, to everytime there was a secure fax i did it with HRC. Ridic,”

        Lying to investigators is a federal crime, one that former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn is being charged with, as well as former Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos. However, the FBI employee joked it “would be funny” if the guy was charged.

        And of course he wasn’t charged. Nor was Hillary.

        • Exscotticus June 16, 2018 at 1:05 pm #

          No one can deny the double standard here.

          Why wasn’t Hillary’s IT guy indicted for lying and obstruction? Mueller would indict Trump’s children’s children if he thought he could get away with it.

          The FBI handed out immunity to Hillary witnesses like confetti at a parade. Someone remind me how often Mueller has done the same with his witnesses?

          Clearly the FBI investigation into Hillary was theater. We know he wrote his conclusions months before they had even interviewed key witnesses.

          Read the AG report; white-washed as it is, it’s still far more damning than is being reported. The conclusions in the report regarding Hillary’s “intent” are merely assessments, but the facts it reveals are not open to debate. And the facts it doesn’t reveal are another matter altogether.

    • BackRowHeckler June 16, 2018 at 2:58 am #

      “Speaking with Russians is not a felony”

      Really? Why was General Flynn convicted then?

      How do you like it now, Gentlemen?


      • elysianfield June 16, 2018 at 11:42 am #

        Flynn was not convicted of talking to the Rooskies…

        He was convicted due to his admitted lying to the Fibbies….

        There is an old saying in Law Enforcement circles…”If you lie, you die.”

        What say you now, sir?

  32. janet June 15, 2018 at 6:08 pm #


    Trump’s trade war ramps up. USA economic collapse around the corner.

    China says: “We will immediately launch tariff measures that will match the scale and intensity of those launched by the United States.”

    Beijing also said “all economic and trade agreements reached by previous negotiations will be nullified at the same time.” That includes a tentative deal to increase Chinese purchases of US energy and agricultural goods.

    Like the US tariffs, China’s retaliatory tariffs will be rolled out in two waves, the Finance Ministry said. And they will start on the same day.

    Beijing will impose tariffs on 545 US items worth $34 billion — including agricultural products, automobiles and seafood — starting on July 6.

    Tariffs on the remaining 114 items, including chemicals, medical equipment and energy products, will start later.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2018 at 6:13 pm #

      It’s exciting. We’re heading for War conducted by Computers as a Game, but with real casualties, like that Old Star Trek episode. People will calmly report to termination chambers if they are a casualty.

  33. BuckP June 15, 2018 at 6:41 pm #

    In 1968, J. Edgar Hoover sent a memo to the Chicago FBI office ordering them to enlist the Mafia for the purpose of murdering Dick Gregory, who was an Amerian citizen, civil rights activist and comedian.

    In 2011, Nobel Peace Prize winning President Barak Obama ordered the killing of two American citizens (one 16 years old, no criminal record and born in Denver) via a drone strike in Yemen. So much, for due process, Huh!

    This corruption and evil within the U.S. government has existed for a long time. If they got Abraham, Martin, John and Bobby, then they can get anybody.

  34. JohnAZ June 15, 2018 at 6:41 pm #

    I was reading a piece on the changes coming with AI when something really struck me. We have a group of elitists in this country that are working hard at dumbing down the public via the education system and immigration while at the same time trying to create superintelligences like AI. To what end? Another attempt by the globalist elite to take over? 2080, the elite running the rest of the ignorant public with AI the controlling element. Hmmm? I wonder what happens when AI figures out that the elite are the real enemy?

    • Luhrenloup June 15, 2018 at 9:48 pm #

      There’s always the possibility that the plan may be to downsize the pesky public with their guns and their lamentations. Why bother with them, AI’s are going to be terrific money makers.

  35. FincaInTheMountains June 15, 2018 at 6:48 pm #

    Manafort Heads to Jail After Judge Faults Witness Tampering


    The likelihood of martial law has increased dramatically.

    Hillary simply will not allow the Americans to endure until the elections.

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  36. janet June 15, 2018 at 7:11 pm #

    “working hard at dumbing down the public via the education system and immigration” –JohnAZ

    The education system is teaching reading, writing, and critical thinking all over the world.

    Compare how many have had no education now with the 200 years ago. In 1820 the huge majority of the world, more than 4 out 5 people alive then, had not received any formal education.

    Over the last 2 centuries this turned around completely and today fewer than 1 out of 5 have received no education at all. Reading, writing, arithmetic, and research are being taught. Immigrants often have more appreciation for the value of education and do better than native-born kids.

  37. ozone June 15, 2018 at 7:21 pm #

    Well now, that didn’t take long.
    Go away and wait for Monday, the jan’s and various hardened ideologues now have the floor and will post yuge volumes of single outlook crap.

    “Americans will become only more distrustful of our reckless leviathan state, and more inclined to disrespect it.” — JHK

    True dat (as they say). …And the louder the Wurlitzer doth crank. Either in flabby distraction or focused disinformation.

    Have fun now!
    -Head down and powder dry.

    • Walter B June 15, 2018 at 7:52 pm #

      Yes the j-bot is awake and in attack mode, but I think I am starting to be able to translate j-speak into plain English. It is true that far more humans receive organized “education” (indoctrination) today than they did 2,000 years ago, and that is a good thing if you are Bill Gates or Barry Obama. And most can do math and read and spell today, even if it is their cellphones that are doing the remembering and the calculations for them – it still counts, doesn’t it? And even though the people who lived 2,000 and 200 years ago kept working hard and making things better, the people of today are almost godlike with the massive improvements and advances they have made to all of our lives – YEAH! Excuse me, I have to go puke now.

      • JohnAZ June 15, 2018 at 8:17 pm #

        No child left behind debuted in the early 2000’s and the consequent years have shown declines in scores. That is good for the socialist globalists who are trying to take over his country. More chaff and less common sense folks to fight back against the elite. We certainly do not want the serfs of the future to know more than they have too. They may not put up with the BS that the globalist elite are feeding them. Thomas Jefferson et al knew that an educated public was the best defense against an autocratic elitist takeover.

        • Walter B June 15, 2018 at 8:52 pm #

          Like Carlin used to say, “Head start – left behind, looks like someone’s losing ground.” I have been fortunate to have had school age children since 1995, and being the homework Dad then and today I had and continue to have a front row seat in the theater that is education. It was bad and has gotten much worse. They started out with a whole language program in 1996 that destroyed the ability of two grades of kids (now 30 year olds) that could not and cannot spell today. The math consisted of tricks to find answers and the methods today are contorted and once the students move on they cannot recall how it was done last year, so they do not really learn math, they simply pass tests. There is no history and my 6th grader spent one day learning about the religions of the world and four days studying Islam. So much of the class time is spent on social engineering and “non-traditional” family issues that when my daughter got to 6th grade, all the kids were choosing where they fit in on the QRSTLMNOP sex charts, even though they were all still inexperienced sexually. They changed categories frequently and I can see just about zero happiness in the sexual regard, but much confusion and stress. Fortunately for my girls they were always taught at home by one of us parents and always had one of us around instead of the drop off at camp/daycare types. I am not simply being negative here – these young people, for the most part – are seriously fucked!

          • Tate June 15, 2018 at 11:00 pm #

            My wife & I could tell my son was struggling in reading in 2rd grade. I found a Phonics book for about ten bucks & we tutored him over the summer. He was reading two grade levels ahead the following year.

            Then this one teacher somehow managed to convince herself that she had been the catalyst LOL.

            I said nothing.

          • Walter B June 16, 2018 at 5:07 am #

            The Whole Language program that was “taught” in our school system back then was letting the kiddies spell anything they wanted in any way they wanted to and all was considered ok. Correction was not allowed and it did not take log before chaos ruled and spelling was completely up to the individual.

          • Tate June 16, 2018 at 12:57 pm #

            “Correction was not allowed… ”

            Says it all. There’s too much of that these days.

            “If you don’t want the Third Reich, then don’t welcome the Weimar Republic.” — Raskolnik

    • BuckP June 15, 2018 at 7:52 pm #

      Good comment ozone
      Frank Wisner’s “Mighty Wurlitzer” still going strong after all these years!
      Goebbels would be proud.
      War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strenght (Truth is Lies)
      Geez! Who needs the truth when a good false narrative will do!
      I saw it on TV, it must be true!
      They call you a conspiracy theorist, because what you’re saying was not reported in the NYT, WaPo or on NBC, CNN, FoxNews, CBS, etc.
      Do not question authority or think critically for you might get branded, fired or ostracized!
      Just spend, consume, borrow and die!
      In the Land of the Free!

      • BackRowHeckler June 15, 2018 at 8:10 pm #

        If you want to learn about a real German propagandist, look up Wili Munzenberg. Now there was a man who knew how to shape public opinion (especially in the US)


  38. janet June 15, 2018 at 8:50 pm #

    “Yes the j-bot is awake and in attack mode…” –Walter B

    Earlier it was posting Noam Chomsky and the folks at Langley went beserk. LOL

    The j-bot is being sent for repairs and reprogramming.

    • pequiste June 16, 2018 at 8:55 am #

      No reprogramming is really necessary (balance of opinion in the CFN, in Asoka/Janet/Carol…’s case, via the form of lock-step, doctrinaire “progressive” spoutings by the truckload.) However, a boiling egg drop soup enema couldn’t hurt.

  39. lsjogren June 15, 2018 at 9:48 pm #

    To paraphrase the IG’s report:

    “I saw the defendant standing on top of the body with a knife dripping blood, but there was no proof he was the murderer.”

    • Exscotticus June 15, 2018 at 11:36 pm #

      “I saw the defendant standing on top of the body with a knife dripping blood, but it clearly wasn’t intentional.”

  40. 100th Avatar June 15, 2018 at 9:51 pm #

    “The USA really can’t take a whole lot more institutional failure without irreparable political damage. Americans will become only more distrustful of our reckless leviathan state, and more inclined to disrespect it.”

    Simply put: it’s not a place worth caring about let alone respecting.

    The US has gone full turd-world

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    • Janos Skorenzy June 15, 2018 at 11:59 pm #

      Congratulations. But your triumph will be short lived since you won’t be able to stick around and enjoy it.

  41. Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2018 at 3:52 am #

    We also destroyed or “lost” all the data about the moon landing. Mistake? Or an intentional wash to hide the fact of their fraudulence. I was always a skeptic about this one – until an hour ago. Watch the youtube. Everything I know about body language says these boys is lying. And how plausible is it that NASA would unintentionally lose or destroy these all important tapes. Occam’s razor cuts straight and deep saying, Not Very.


    • Tate June 16, 2018 at 1:41 pm #

      It seems like “we” did land on the moon, but I wasn’t there so I don’t know for certain.

  42. KesaAnna June 16, 2018 at 6:02 am #

    @ volodya

    I don’t know about you , but I was 16 ( ? ) or 17 ( ? ) years old before I recall encountering the word , and concept of , pedophilia.

    Near as I can tell , today though , your average 8 year old is quite familiar with it. —

    — and not because they ran afoul of a child molester.

    So where did an 8 year old learn such things ?


    No, I’m NOT suggesting you are a pedophile.

    I AM asserting that the irony of the current situation is that you are talking about the safeguarding of an innocence —

    — you have , yourselves , dispensed with.

    What I repeatedly see in your , and others , demonization of the Catholic Church is PROJECTION. .

    YOUR sexual revolution put us in this situation .

    You suggest this indirectly with your appeal to the innocent good old days.

    Those innocent good old days were a time when we had more influence , a lot more influence , than we have now.

    Following the logic of your casting us in the black hats , and yourselves in the white hats , then things should be better now , not worse.

    If I have misunderstood you , and you actually think things are better now —

    — Then what the fuck are you complaining about ??

    Oh , I know ; like the Bolsheviks in the 1930’s blamed all the shit on British , French and Japanese spies , instead of on their own screwy social and economic fancies ,

    You will blame the catastrophic outcomes of your half-baked sexual revolution on us .

    Never mind that it is blatantly obvious that we had NOTHING to do with your cocked -up revolution .

    Never mind that , using yourself as an example , your knowledge of us is clearly very poor or non-existent.

    — i.e. IF we had anything to do with it , how the fuck would you even know that ?

    Going by your characterizations , I wouldn’t be one bit surprised if it turned out that I am the only Catholic you even — sort of — know.

    Your complaint is about people not controlling their urges ?

    But then you assert that the Catholic Church is unreasonable , irrational , even criminal …………..in trying to require people to control their urges ?

    Which is it ?

    Could you maybe make up your fucking mind please ?

    ” Your complaint is about people not controlling their urges ? ”

    ^ Actually I’m inclined to think that a big part of the trouble is that this is NOT really your complaint.

    The sexual revolution cooked up this formula that sex between two consenting adults is just fine and dandy because the two wish it so , and pretty much all third party scruples in the matter can be dismissed out of hand.

    This formula sucks.

    For one thing , it works just as well for homosexuals as it does for heterosexuals . Which homosexuals have discovered to their delight. Once you accept this formula as valid , you are in the Gay Rights camp whether you like it or not , by default.

    You can’t have your orgy and keep it to yourself too.

    ( But , I suppose I’m homophobic and bigoted for so characterizing it ? )

    It works out just fine for adulterers too . When your significant other — who turns out to be an ” equal opportunity employer ” — brings home a nasty social bug and gives it to you , you cannot really validly complain.
    It was two consenting adults , and you have no third party say where this ultimate right is concerned.

    It works out very well for someone who gets you to sign on the dotted line , ( i.e. marriage ) and , after a couple of years of milking you dry , then legally walks off with half your property.

    The basic reason that this formula sucks is because it isn’t true.

    Sex doesn’t occur in isolation , in a vacuum.

    It isn’t just between two consenting adults , it typically , directly or indirectly , involves third parties who don’t get a vote .

    And it commonly negatively impacts these third parties who don’t get a vote.

    I have not yet mentioned the most common third party negatively impacted by it ; children.

    And notice that pedophilia hasn’t even come up yet.

    Abandon this bullshit formula ? Admit you were full of shit ?

    Never ! Not if the skies fall !

    THAT’s where pedophilia enters the picture .

    THAT’s where the welfare of children enters into it , after you threw their welfare out the fucking window.

    Speaking of the welfare of children , i can’t recall , is it one out of three , or two out of three , children who are parties to divorce subsequently fall below the poverty line.

    But , it’s all about freedom , and that little fact doesn’t really signify anything does it ?

    Near as I can tell, this particular coffee house ( CFN ) is primarily frequented by air-conditioned , Lotus – Eating college -types who , if you told a Gautamalan peasant how much they were being paid to do what they do , the Gautamalan peasant would be inclined to think you were grossly exaggerating.

    If you told these Lotus-Eating college -types that they would be spending the rest of their lives scrubbing someone elses toilet for 8 dollars an hour , they would probably stick their head in an oven.

    So no , to them , one out of three , or two out of three , children condemned to a lot fewer options and grimmer circumstances , most often permanently , isn’t the worst kind of child abuse.

    It’s only money ! Ha ! Ha !

    But a little diddling is a big deal.

    And i suppose a little diddling is a big deal .

    But , at the risk of seeming a cruel and heartless bitch , it is often enough a diddling that happened yesterday.

    Whereas , a lot fewer options yesterday can add up to a lot of very grim tomorrows, and tomorrows, and tomorrows. .

    At least that is my view based on my experience.

    I said at first that I did not encounter the term pedophile until I was 16 or 17 years old , and that is true.

    But , also true , is that I was abused as a child.

    ( Sorry though , it wasn’t by clergy , but by a through -going secular type. I guess that’s another you can leave out of your anti -church arithmetic. )

    How can they both be true ?

    Well, you characterized those days generally accurately. People were not , generally , in those days , DELIBERATELY teaching children to fear every tree and bush.

    In my opinion , society was not generally any less violent or vulgar , but yet it WAS different . It was more like INNOCENT !

    Now to explain how that could be would take a hell of a lot of words , and in any case you , yourself , apparently lived then.

    Instead , I’ll just wrap it up simply by saying that what primarily changed between then and now is that you dispensed with our cosmology , and at the current time the cosmology we are working under is yours.

    Anyway , I didn’t get a social disease , I didn’t get pregnant , AND THAT WAS 40 YEARS AGO.

    Fewer options though , is something I have to deal with directly , daily , for 40 years . And unless I win a lottery that I didn’t buy a ticket for , I’ll be dealing with it until the day I die.

    People whose hearts supposedly bleed over what happened to my pussy 40 years ago , don’t seem to really give a shit now , and didn’t give a shit then , about their own nickle -and -dimming of me to death , and how that has affected the rest of me.

    You consistently treat this diddling in isolation , as if nothing else were going on around it.

    Speaking of nickle and dimming children to death —

    The Catholic Church is the largest charitable organization in the world , and not by a small margin .

    Shut it down ?

    So I suppose then you are ready to step up to the plate and take up that slack ?

    I don’t fucking think so.

    Now I get tired of this bullshit abstract business , so let’s personalize things.

    My monthly income varies from 900 to 1200 dollars .

    I feed five other people . ( and not mine. I could never afford to marry . )

    Out of that income 300 off the top goes to Catholic charities.

    That doesn’t include gas in the car to go to church , mostly for charitable activities I might add , and other related incidental expenses .

    You want to shut me down ?

    No , you just want to shut down the Catholic Church ?

    Then you are an idiot. Because the one is the other , and the other is the one.

    You shut down the Catholic Church , and you shut me down , plaid and simple. period.

    I could just go elsewhere ?

    Where ?

    Oh , I forget , you avoid comparison like the plague. :p

    YOUR cosmology has NOTHING to offer ME.

    You cannot threaten me , bribe me , or entice me.

    If you gave me a million dollars ? Lol , believe it or not , I would turn around and give it to the Church.

    This has been a long essay so —

    I don’t think this has anything to do with child molestation. Not at all.

    What is it about then ?

    Secularism and materialism are ebbing away. Your bullshit “enlightenment ” ( really the era of the police state ) is ending.

    Religion is in the ascendant.

    On second thought , maybe it does have something to do with children ;

    Your grandchildren will despise you and hold you in contempt.
    Perhaps that thought bothers you a little.

    • FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2018 at 7:08 am #

      The Pope needs to go out onto the pulpit of St. Peter’s Cathedral and ex cathedra declare that Catholicism is heresy and schism.

      • Sean Coleman June 16, 2018 at 12:22 pm #

        Finca, you are bonkers.

      • Tate June 16, 2018 at 1:40 pm #

        Hasn’t he already done that?

    • FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2018 at 7:17 am #

      After the Catholics washed away the Sistine Chapel of Michelangelo, there is a clear desire for self-destruction, which once again confirms the fundamental connection between life and art.

      By the way, the end of Catholicism does not necessarily mean a thermonuclear war or some other ugliness. It will be enough for the last Pope to go out and ex cathedra to admit that in 1054 they went into heresy and schism.

      Did the Vatican Ruin the Sistine Chapel Frescoes?

    • volodya June 16, 2018 at 9:31 am #

      I tried to follow your post but I guess I’m just not up to it.

    • Q. Shtik June 16, 2018 at 10:53 am #

      Kesa, you simply MUST learn to make your points in fewer words.

    • elysianfield June 16, 2018 at 11:56 am #

      I love your posts…what I can understand of them.

    • Sean Coleman June 16, 2018 at 1:06 pm #

      Good post, KA, and close to my own thoughts. In fairness to Volodya he isn’t one of the ‘Enlightenment’ lefties on here.

      People find it hard to accept that the vast majority of the abuse charges against the Church are lies. They hear it everywhere and nobody disputes it (some would like to but they don’t know how). The argument is that there are so many allegations that they can’t all be wrong. But they can and they are. In the Casa Pia witch hunt in Portugal (around 2004) five or six ‘Powerful’ men were convicted of abuse of children (teenagers actually) in a Lisbon care home, including ther ‘Mr Television’ Carlos Cruz and a diplomat. (One of the convicted had been a former resident and had worked there as a driver and it is generally agreed by everyone that he was guilty: in this case there was a tiny core of truth to the witch hunt, as there sometimes is.) At a late stage in the trial more than forty charges were changed against Cruz (why?) and the defence was not given time to prepare a defence against the new ones. He had credit card and mobile phone records proving he could not possibly have committed many of these crimes (many involving fantastic orgies in a distant city, Elves) but the police did not even examine them. Anyway, he was convicted on a new concept made up just for him, ‘a resonancia de verdad’ – the resonance of truth. In other words, they couldn’t have all been making it up, could they?

      As I mentioned in the last thread the priest at the heart of the Boston scandal, Fr Paul Shanley, felt he had a mission to minister to the city’s population of teenage homosexual drifters and I understand he is himself gay. The liberals loved him while the concerns of traditionalists in the Church were ignored. That did not protect him when the accusations started to fly. Young men claimed he had abused them in primary school. From The Passion of Fr Paul Shanley by MaryJo Wypijewski:

      “To start at the beginning, on January 31, 2002, a friend of Paula and Rodney Ford in Newton called to alert them about a long article in The Globe titled “Famed ‘Street Priest’ Preyed Upon Boys.” The article related the story of a teenager who’d come to Father Shanley for counseling in the 1970s and was inveigled into a game of strip poker. It said that the priest abused the runaways he was thought to have helped. And it quoted a man who said he “became Paul’s sex slave” at the age of 20 and sank into a depression that never lifted.

      “The Fords read with interest. Their son Gregory, now 27, has had a hard time in life. He has been in 17 mental institutions or halfway houses. At age 11, he began drinking; he has also used anabolic steroids, cocaine, LSD, and other drugs. He has threatened his father with a knife and a metal pipe, assaulted a girlfriend, burned a local field, and threatened to kill his whole family and burn down the house. The Fords told the Newton Tab that Gregory’s problems had no explanation before that day in January. After reading the Globe article, Ford’s father said, “I knew from that moment on that I was going to have all the answers.”

      “The Fords showed Gregory the article with Shanley’s picture. He didn’t react. Then they showed him a photograph of himself receiving his First Holy Communion from Shanley, and he fell to the floor in tears. Over the next year and a half, Gregory reported a series of “flashbacks,” recovered memories of abusive and violent incidents, numbering more than 70, most of which involved strip poker and anal penetration. In depositions taken for the civil case brought by Ford against the Boston Archdiocese for failing to protect him from Shanley, Gregory Ford testified that he buried the memory of each attack, and thus approached each new encounter with the priest as if it were the first, without fear. At the time this began, Ford would have been 6; Shanley, 52.

      “The day after Ford’s epiphany, Paul Busa, also 27 and then a military police officer at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado, got a call from his girlfriend telling him about the Globe article. The girlfriend called Busa again 10 days later to tell him that Ford had recovered memories of abuse. According to papers filed in his civil case, Busa’s memories “began flooding back.” He called Ford, who by then had retained MacLeish, a Boston lawyer who has represented more than 200 alleged victims in the latest public scandal and who earlier negotiated dozens of secret settlements with the church. A few days later Busa was flying to Boston, his ticket paid for by MacLeish. By March, Busa had retained the lawyer. At MacLeish’s suggestion, Busa consulted two psychiatrists who had also talked to Ford. Back at Peterson, another psychiatrist had encouraged Busa to keep a journal, his “emotional barf bag,” in which he reconstructed his memories, backdating them to February 1, 2002, the day he heard about the Globe story. He was discharged from the Air Force that April, and now works for the Newton fire department.

      “Busa and Ford were joined in their allegations by Anthony Driscoll, another childhood friend and classmate, also 27. He asserted that while flying to Las Vegas to gamble, he experienced “severe flashbacks” of rape and other indecencies by the priest. Driscoll met with Ford and MacLeish in March 2002 and spoke with Busa at about the same time. He reportedly did not say then that he thought he’d been abused. He did, however, ask MacLeish to recommend a psychiatrist, and subsequently met with the same doctors seen by Busa and Ford. That April, MacLeish filed a civil complaint for him. In July, the prosecution dropped Driscoll along with Ford from the case against Shanley.

      “The remaining victim in the criminal case, now 34, has requested anonymity. His civil complaint never underwent discovery and little is known about him, except that he has a history of incarceration and drug and alcohol abuse. He claims to have been abused by Shanley in the early 1980s and to have recovered his memories in 2001, after reading a newspaper article about another accused priest. He did not make a civil or criminal complaint until 2002, after Ford came forward, and after he himself had retained MacLeish. According to Shanley’s defense counsel, Frank Mondano, the man’s first memory is dated to the day that it would be admissible under the state’s six-year statute of limitations. That day was a Tuesday, when CCD (as these Catholic religious classes are called) never met.

      “For Busa and Ford, the memories of abuse are nearly identical. Both say Father Shanley regularly pulled them out of CCD, sometimes as often as every week, between 1983 and 1989. All of the criminal activity would have occurred before the 10 o’clock Sunday Mass. Until Gregory Ford came forward, none of the thousands of children who attended CCD at St. Jean’s while Shanley was pastor reported anything untoward. No one is on record at the time as having noticed anything unusual involving the boys and Shanley. Not their parents. Not the several women who taught the classes, including Ford’s mother. Not Verona Mazzei, the woman who supervised the program. After Ford made his accusations, Mazzei told reporters she could not confirm his account of the priest’s continual class disruption. By the time of the indictment, she said she’d been advised by lawyers not to comment; her position was compromised because Paul Busa was her daughter’s fiancé. The couple married this summer.

      “The accusations against Shanley rely on a psychological theory called dissociated or repressed memory. It holds that the mind can submerge the most traumatic memories in some walled-off place, where they remain unaltered and retrievable in exact detail by a triggering event or therapy. The idea comes from Freud’s early work, and is one which he ultimately rejected. It was reformulated in some feminist psychotherapeutic circles beginning in the 1970s, and reached its apex in the 1980s and early ’90s, when children, prodded by therapists, began reciting “memories” of satanic ritual abuses committed at their day care centers. Many people went to prison as a result of those stories. Most of those convictions have since been reversed; others continue to be fought. Yet the theory persists. Daniel Brown, a psychotherapist who testified to the grand jury in Shanley’s case, argues that “material that is too intense may not be able to be consciously processed and so may become unconscious and amnesic.”

      I never saw the film that won the Oscar. What was it? Spotlight? I don’t watch films, ever. I don’t know if featured the Shanley case. It is possible that it mentioned the fact that most of the charges were dropped at a late stage because they were so shaky, the huge payouts made against the Church (half a million for some) or that Shanley was convicted on repressed memory only. It may have mentioned this, and more, but I doubt it.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2018 at 1:29 pm #

        One of the 9/11 firemen saw piles of dead horses. The therapist told him they were human bodies but his mind changed it to make it easier for him to deal.

        Now you have thousands more cases to study. There were SO MANY Paul Shanleys! Did their victims kill themselves just for publicity or to further the Liberal Agenda? Just like the martyrs of the early Church died for lies?

        Of course your truth is real, but of lesser value. The Grifters always come a running with things like this. Some Priests were accused and were angry when they didn’t get a chance to clear their names in Court once the Church went into full defensive posture. But don’t deny the fire because the smoke is hiding it and heat makes it difficult to get a closer look.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2018 at 1:48 pm #

          Historians love the Salem (Massachusetts) Witch Trials because it was self contained and can be gotten a grip on. They can know all about it in other words – unlike the Witch Trials in general in Europe. So widespread and stretched out in time and space – the two enemies of knowledge.

          So Sean focuses on this one case, and by knowing all about it, apparently thinks he can dismiss the whole vast phenomena. But it aint necessarily so. One is reminded of Nasrudin who lost a coin in his house but was searching outside near the street light. Why are you searching out here, he was asked. Because this is where the light is, he replied.

        • Sean Coleman June 16, 2018 at 2:37 pm #

          Is that true about the dead horses? Just wondering. Sounds like another tall tale.

          Let’s break this down.

          ‘Now you have thousands more cases to study.’

          Not me, mate. I have wasted enough time already disproving the lies of liars, and bad liars at that. Easy, facile liars but bad (their stories are so easily disproved) and unimaginative (‘he said it would be our little secret/ because God loved me’).

          Are there literally thousands? How do you know? Because the media say so? Look at AGW. The big story was that 97% of scientists accept it. But then it turns out that the questionnaire was written in a way that even outspoken critics would find themselves as part of the 97%. The figures are plucked out of thin air.

          “Did their victims kill themselves just for publicity or to further the Liberal Agenda? Just like the martyrs of the early Church died for lies?”

          I asked you this already. How many killed themselves? Or was it rather drink and drugs (many of these care homes children were emotionally fragile because of the terrible fate their selfish parents brought down on them, and many are persistent liars and fantasists). There is one case in the N. Wales story I could link to. Why don’t you answer these questions? Because you don’t know. Why don’t you know? Because you haven’t looked it up. Why haven’t you looked it up? Because you can’t or because you know that what you will find out will destroy your fantasy.

          “So Sean focuses on this one case, and by knowing all about it, apparently thinks he can dismiss the whole vast phenomena.”

          Focussing on one case at a time is the ONLY way to deal with it. First one case, then another, then another. After twenty or thirty it gets boring.

          I post about this and other things on the internet, often on YT. I ask people for facts to back up their claims when they don’t like what I say, which is often. When they write a reply, usually high in rhetoric and low in information, I get an email notification.

          I ask them things like: How do you know Trump is a racist? How can you back up your claim that right-wing governments in Europe are a threat to free speech? Or I challenge them to adduce one case in the Savile story, or the Irish anticlerical story. (Who do they choose? The criminal psychiatric patient inmate who was incarcerated for arson? The grand niece looking for a payout? The former cub scout who has to pay for a new extension? The Irish mayor? That’s a good one and I will link to it below.)

          I do this quite a lot but when I look in my email there is nothing there. They cannot answer it. And neither can you. As long as you remain at the level of generalizations you are no better than the media. They are worse, of course, because they are paid to tell us what is happening.

          The Irish mayor. Here is the link: http://irishsalem.blogspot.com/2018/02/recovered-memory-and-allegations-of.html

          This one is a classic.

          Here is what he said on the telly (but if you use the link you can see the video):

          “Mr Chairman, I am surprised at the Minister now. First of all Minister you made a bags of it in the beginning by changing the judges. You made a complete bags of it at that time because I went to the Laffoy Commission and ye had seven barristers there questioning me, telling me that I was telling lies when I told them that I got raped of a Saturday, got an merciful beating after it and he then came along the following morning and put Holy Communion in my mouth. You don’t know what happened there . You haven’t the foggiest. You’re talking through your hat there, and you are talking to a Fianna Fáil man, and a former councillor and a former mayor that worked tooth and nail for the party that you are talking about now. You didn’t do it right. You got it wrong. Admit it and apologise for doing that because you don’t know what I feel inside me. You don’t know the hurt I have.

          “You said it was non-adversarial. My God, seven barristers throwing questions at us non-stop. I attempted to commit suicide, [turning to his wife] there’s the woman who saved me from committing suicide on my way down from Dublin after spending five days at the commission . They brought a man over from Rome – 90 odd years of age – to tell me I was telling lies and that I wasn’t beaten for an hour non-stop by two of them from head to toe without a shred of cloth on my body. My God, Minister.

          “[Turning to Fine Gael TD Leo Varadkar] Can I speak to you and ask your leader to stop making a political football out of this. You hurt us when you do that. You tear the shreds from inside our body. For God’s sake, try and give us some peace, try and give us some peace, and not continue hurting us.

          “[Turning to his wife]

          “That woman will tell you how many times I jump out of bed at night with the sweat pumping out of me because I see these fellows at the end of the bed with their fingers pulling me into the room to rape me, to bugger me and to beat the shite out of me. That’s the way it is, and sometime, you know what, I listen to the leader of Fianna Fáil. I even listened to the apology. It was mealy-mouthed but at least it was an apology. The Rosminians said in the report that they were easy on us. The first day I went there, the first day I went to the Rosminians in my home which is Ferryhouse in Clonmel, the only home I know, he said you’re in it for the money. We didn’t want money. We wanted someone to stand up and say ‘yes these fellows were buggered, these people were robbed’.

          “Little girls, my sister, a month old when she was put into an institution, eight of us from the one family were dragged by the ISPCC cruelty man, put into two cars and brought to the court in Clonmel. We were left standing there without food or anything and the fellow in the long black frock and white collar came along and he put us into a scut-truck and landed us below with 200 other boys. Two nights later I was raped.

          “How can anyone, you’re talking about the Constitution, these people would gladly say yes to a Constitution to freeze the funds of the religious orders. This State, this country of ours will say yes to that Constitution if you have to change it.

          “Don’t say you can’t change it. You are the Government of this State. You run this State. So, for God’s sake, stop mealy-mouthing because I am sick of it. You are turning me away from voting Fianna Fáil, which I have done from the day I could vote.

          “You know me Minister and you have met me on several occasions, so you know what I am like. Remember Wexford?””

          But ten years earlier he had said in an interview, “But I must say, and I have to say it here and now… that it never happened to me, I never seen it happening, I never heard of it happening in my seven years in Ferryhouse. I never seen or heard of it… Ferryhouse is my home. And I will defend it to the end as long as I live, because I was reared by them.”

          When you look at every case you will wonder how on earth anyone can believe it.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2018 at 9:27 pm #

            I saw the guy say it on a 9/11 special. So you’re saying he fantasized that he fantasized seeing horses? Or that he’s lying for some reason – perhaps to deceive me in an attempt to deceive you? One is reminded of “psychologists” who fulminated against psychedelic trippers, saying they “imagined” that they perceived colors to be brighter or “believed” that they perceived colors to be brighter.

            People are terrified at the idea that some people experience things that they’ve never experienced. Even bad things!

            I used to know a guy who hung out with bums and studied their “primary process” (Freud’s term for fantasy). He said one guy he knew was basically rational but then concocted an incredible religious revelation that happened in the past. My friend had been with him during the period when the revelation supposedly happened and said that the guy didn’t mention anything at the time. So he concluded that the process wormed its way into subjective reality via imaginary memories. So you may be right if he is right. An interesting hypothesis.

            But the Fireman was no bum! Normal people have it more under control, allowing it to come out fully only at night during dreams.

          • GreenAlba June 17, 2018 at 11:11 am #

            “My friend had been with him during the period when the revelation supposedly happened and said that the guy didn’t mention anything at the time. ”

            I had a weird experience one time. I couldn’t call it religious but it was inexplicable (to me) then as now. I’ve googled since to see if there was a likely explanation. There kind of was, but nothing incontrovertible. So I’m left with a bit of a mystery, although a very minor one.

            But the significant thing, in terms of your story, is that I’ve never told a living soul. No-one, ever (and this doesn’t count because I’m not recounting the actual experience and don’t intend to).

            So it’s not impossible that people tell you things years later that actually happened but they didn’t tell anyone at the time. Mine was about 20 years ago. I almost told a close friend, after a bottle or so of wine, about a week ago, because of a conversation we were having. But I didn’t. But it most definitely happened.

          • Tate June 17, 2018 at 2:20 pm #

            GA, could you classify this experience as possibly a dream or clearly an hallucination?

            I had an experience once that for many years I have not been able to state confidently actually happened. Looking back, it might have been a dream instead.

            A couple of other times I’ve had short hallucinations, one strictly visual & the other auditory, both of them trivial in nature.

            I’ve told others about these experiences. Nobody thinks I’m crazy because I had the experiences. A lot of people probably think I’m crazy for other reasons.

          • GreenAlba June 17, 2018 at 2:45 pm #

            “GA, could you classify this experience as possibly a dream or clearly an hallucination?”

            It was neither (I was completely awake, had not been asleep, and I didn’t hear or see anything) but I wouldn’t be able to say any more without explaining the entire situation. And it was very minor.

            Maybe I’ll tell my friend next time 🙂 . It was weird – and it happened twice the same day and never again. The fact that it happened a second time, and the banal context of the second time, makes the possible explanation for the first time seem less likely.

            So I’m no further forward. Sorry. I wasn’t really intending to create a mystery around the incident, merely to point out that I’ve never told anyone at all, so things do happen that people say nothing about, then, for one reason or another, they decide to tell someone many years later.

            On hallucinations, though, I have an ex-colleague who suffers from hypnagogic hallucinations, often involving animals, so, for instance he can see the front half of a deer emerging from the (closed) wardrobe door and it looks entirely real. How weird is THAT?

          • Sean Coleman June 17, 2018 at 2:47 pm #


            “So you’re saying he fantasized that he fantasized seeing horses? Or that he’s lying for some reason – perhaps to deceive me in an attempt to deceive you?”

            I was just asking. I’d never even heard of him.

            “One is reminded of “psychologists” who fulminated against psychedelic trippers, saying they “imagined” that they perceived colors to be brighter or “believed” that they perceived colors to be brighter.”

            That surprises me. I’d have thought they would have been sympathetic to the druggies, that or tripping themselves. Wasn’t Leary a psychologist?

            “People are terrified at the idea that some people experience things that they’ve never experienced. Even bad things!”

            I don’t get it. Definitely extraverts.

            As for your next paragraph I don’t know what you mean by me perhaps being right if he was right. You lost me. What I do know is that I don’t believe in recovered memories, especially when they resurface just when there is a lot of money to be made on them. I am working my way very slowly through a biography of Freud by Richard Webster. Freud was clearly an extravert. He made up a lot of things that suited his career. Jung talks about fantasy but in a quite different way to me. His book Psychological Types is all about the ‘type problem’, the irreconcilable difference between the ways extraverts and introverts see things. He seems to say that the inevitable stalemate can be resolved by ‘fantasy’, which I think is a kind of imaginative or rather symbolic approach. I have to say it does not persuade me.

            Webster’s theory about contemporary witch hunts is that it is an unconscious continuation of late mediaeval Christian millenial (the computer just tried to put to ‘n’s in that word but I prefer the one) and in particular of 17th C English Puritan demonology. (He agrees with historian Christopher Hill’s view that the English underwent an extraordinarily radical mental revolution in that century.) When campaigning journalism began during the 19thC this religious tone was explicit but while the country has secularized the habits of thought remain, though quite unrecognized. This is how John Gray can describe the new evangelical atheism as a Christian heresy, albeit a very crude one. Webster’s theory accounts well for the way that extraordinary beliefs have resurfaced like the idea that the ‘Elite’ are involved in paedophile cults with satanic rituals and child sacrifice. It is insane, of course, yet otherwise sane-looking people fall easy prey to them. They really want to believe.

            My view is wider. I see the above as part of a wider fantasy, which can be called political correctness (or whatever name you want to give to this strange new pagan religion). It professes to be rational and believes itself to be so, but, as Webster argued, this makes it only the more susceptible to the irrationality. As a religion it is hilarioiusly hopeless. You see, it advocates facts and reason yet all of its sacred mysteries can be demolished by facts and reason. And it is so dishonest too!

          • Sean Coleman June 17, 2018 at 2:59 pm #

            While I am here, just to add that I said in the last thread that I can see the Catholic Church meeting the same fate as the Church in Spain during the Civil War, especially the opening weeks and months, when persecution, torture and murder were common, along with wanton destruction. Anticlericalism was perhaps the only thing to unite the Republicans (although the Basques were equivocal here, of course). Like everything else in the new dispensation the conventional history of the war is so wrong it is, well, funny. For example, the irony in the claim that the parties (including and especially the largest, the Socialists) were defending democracy. They were the ones who destroyed it. Anyway, this is what we can look forward to if law and order break down. The uneducated Lumpens will be fired up to kill the clergy, for being ‘paedos’, torture them, mutilate their corpses. As in Republican Spain what is left of authority will pretend to restrain them while really inciting them, because they believe the nonsense too!

            If a strong state remains then the Church will either be speedily replaced by, say, communal events, such as commemorations of non-existent genocides or feminist poetry readings, or end up resembling the Orthodox Church in the USSR.

        • Sean Coleman June 16, 2018 at 2:47 pm #


          When I was on holiday a poster on Peter Hitchens’s blog (who was replying to me) attempted to justify Ireland’s disgraceful vote to introduce abortion because of the terrible things the Church did there in the past.


          Hitchens (PH) makes this remark underneath his post:

          “****PH remarks: An interesting point of view, not perhaps encouraged by any moral system familiar to me, but understandable. I have no dog in this fight, but was struck, when I looked into the details of some allegations against the RC Church in the USA and found many commonly-accepted ‘facts’ not to be backed up by the (easily-obtained) evidence. I should like to know if any defence has been offered by those accused in these matters, and also whether these accusations have been made against *all* such establishments, or are explicable by human failing rather than by general policy. As I have often pointed out, cruelty of the kind cited is not as far as I know *mandated* by the RC Church, and abuse of many kinds is not unknown in liberal, secular institutions such as care homes, or come to that the BBC.***”

          Note this phrase: “I have no dog in this fight, but was struck, when I looked into the details of some allegations against the RC Church in the USA and found many commonly-accepted ‘facts’ not to be backed up by the (easily-obtained) evidence.”

          How many times have I said this? I was also ‘struck’. When I looked into Savile I was amazed. Was I the only person alive who had noticed? It seemed a real possibility for a couple of days.

          Hitchens is a proper journalist and can think for himself. But hardly anybody else ever looks into these things. Why?

          • Sean Coleman June 17, 2018 at 3:03 pm #

            Hitchens’s reference to abuse in care homes here is misguided. There is a widespread belief to this effect but it is, like the rest, vastly exaggerated. The reference to the BBC must be in relation to Savile, and if so it too is erroneous: the BBC did not cover up for Savile for the simple reason that Savile did nothing that needed to be covered up. (Anyway, covering up is the last thing they would have done as they looked down on him if anything.)

        • Sean Coleman June 16, 2018 at 6:37 pm #

          Here is journalist JoAnn Wypijewski about the Shanley case. It is only 5 mins. It is good to watch and listen to a proper journalist.


        • elysianfield June 16, 2018 at 7:15 pm #

          “One of the 9/11 firemen saw piles of dead horses.”

          Great fodder for a doctoral thesis…bullshit, but great….

          • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2018 at 9:30 pm #

            I think the play Equs was about a boy who mutilated horses. The ancient Aryans used to have horse sacrifices. It seems that Man has a deep need to hurt horses. As you know, people love to punch police horses.

    • elysianfield June 16, 2018 at 1:51 pm #

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  43. FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2018 at 6:36 am #

    The Medvedev’s government in Russia is increasing retirement age from 55 to 60 for women and from 60 to 65 for men.

    Personally, I think there is no financial need to raise pension age, Dimon(Dmitry Medvedev) lies like a gray gelding.

    This is some complicated intrigue connected with geopolitics.

    The first thing that comes to mind, Medvedev on Clinton assignment is trying to provoke the riots and send them against Putin.

    • GreenAlba June 16, 2018 at 11:13 am #

      Seems it’s actually 63 for the women, Finca, which would be a hefty whack of an 8-year increase.

      It seems fairer for the women than for the men, though, since life expectancy for the women is around 75, while 43% of the men would apparently not live to see their retirement if the age were raised to 65.

      So, until something can be done to improve male life expectancy (or the males can do something about it themselves) perhaps they should increase the age for women to 60 and leave the men as they are?


      Over here, we are almost at parity with age 65 for both men and women due shortly, with an increase to 66 due before too long, and a further increase to 67 planned for 2026-2028. Personally, I’d be surprised if there were any state pension here at all by 2028 but I’m just a miserable cynic in these matters, since many years ago when I first dipped my toes in all that peak-oiliness.

      Your ‘gray gelding’ simile intrigued me, though, which led me to The Beasts of the Russian Linguistic Menagerie!


      • GreenAlba June 16, 2018 at 11:20 am #

        And in any case, I’ve always thought that there’s a major difference between saying people have to work till 67 (and I think the view is that 70 will be envisaged after that) and suggesting that employers generally will want to employ 67-year-olds when they can get 30-year-olds.

        So we may just be talking about a longer gap between being ‘let go’ and getting some kind of long-term sustenance, if such even exists by then.

        • JohnAZ June 16, 2018 at 11:39 am #


          People change physically and mentally significantly between 60 and 70 accelerating near 70. 65 is not arbitrary, people’s value in the workplace decreases the older they get. So yeah, firing older to hire younger is normal operating procedure. I am seventy and have lived through my sixties. My only comment is that I am not looking forward to the seventies and hopefully eighties. From an employers perspective, giving up the wisdom of older employees used to be dumb. Not so much with the advent of higher tech. Plus, the integration of the high tech paradigm into the millennial and gen Z folks give them a distinct advantage today. Think foreign language. Interesting times a comin.’

          • GreenAlba June 16, 2018 at 12:04 pm #


            I agree 65 is arbitrary. I’m (a little) past 65 and am still working, albeit freelance from home, but doing the same job for the same firm (I don’t earn enough for the Inland Revenue to chase me up about that).

            I presume they’ll keep giving me work until I start making mistakes or there’s no work they can’t cope with in-house.

            Here they’ve changed the law so that 65 isn’t the arbitrary retirement age it used to be. It’s a bit more flexible, in that you can go at 65 if you want to (and it’s kind of assumed that you will want to) but you can ask to stay on and if they’re happy with your performance, you can carry on for a bit.

            That’s as I understand it. I didn’t ‘retire’. I took ‘voluntary redundancy’ at 62 and continued working, but part time, after a break of 6 months to appease the Inland Revenue.

            I have no intention at the moment of stopping altogether as it would feel odd to not be working at all. I don’t do that much – it comes in waves. But I like having something.

            My sector is better than some others for not really caring how old you are as long as you are doing the job. And it uses large numbers of freelancers to begin with.

            One slight advantage of the oldies I found when I was at work was that the young’uns were off sick more – clearly not made of the same stuff – or maybe it’s just that life and children boost your immune system 🙂 .

          • Walter B June 16, 2018 at 3:03 pm #

            Two point GA – 1) The younger folk may call in sick but we all know they are actually hung over. 2) We oldies are afraid to get sick because we understand that the next one could be our last….yuk, yuk.

          • elysianfield June 16, 2018 at 7:13 pm #

            “accelerating near 70”

            Magna cum celeritas…trust me….

      • Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2018 at 1:35 pm #

        Don’t worry the immigrants will support you. They add so much! Look how prosperous their home countries are. They only came to help. It’s a wonder how Britain ever got on without them.

        Did I say immigrants. I’m sorry – Refugees! Many of the REFUGEES send their children back into “war torn areas” to prevent them from assimilating into Dar al Harb – or the World of War – Culture. They come back once their Islamic identity is secure. As you know, Islam divides the World into two, Dar al Islam or the House of Peace and Dar al Harb or the House of War. The Great Commission is to conquer Dar al Harb until Dar al Islam alone remains.

        • Exscotticus June 16, 2018 at 5:11 pm #

          Yes you noticed the Left’s new three-card monte word strategy. There’s no such thing as immigrants anymore. They’re to be called: refugees. And my guess is that this will evolve into “undocumented refugees”.

        • GreenAlba June 17, 2018 at 10:30 am #

          Janos and Exscotticus

          I can’t speak for Americans, but here most people of goodwill understand the clear difference between immigrants and refugees. The UK is not remotely among the most generous when it comes to refugees.

          Regarding immigrants (not refugees), those are the ones you’d find keeping the NHS going, for instance, including, for example, the ‘Windrush generation’ some of whose children have been treated so appallingly by the Home Office recently (which you {Janos] can’t have missed, even though you didn’t comment, since you miss nothing colour coded in the news).

          The incompetence of the Home Office (most recently run, previously, by the Incompetent-in-Chief, one Theresa May) is legendary. They torment, through their incompetence, people who are perfectly entitled to be here, and yet are incapable of even producing proper figures as to who is actually here and who should or should not be here.

          It is my opinion, as I am confident it will be yours, that a government should at the very least know who is in the country it is governing – barring random but very unlikely people who might choose to swim through freezing seas up to beaches in under-populated areas like the far north of Scotland – and I think we’d notice if there were many of them. As would various 24/7 fisheries protection vessels, which I know (having at one time been friendly with an FPV Captain), do a bit of extra-curricular work for Customs and Excise when e.g. a boat suspected of smuggling drugs is spotted).

          We nevertheless do have some illegal immigrants. We call these er… ‘illegal immigrants’, since that’s what they are. We don’t (to my knowledge) use the term ‘undocumented immigrants’ because UK citizens, by longstanding ‘classical liberal’ tradition, do not walk around in a ‘documented’ state. We do not ‘carry papers’. Those who drive will have a licence, which they have some 5 days to produce at a police station if they are stopped while driving.

          Those who have been abroad will have a passport, which they are not required to carry unless travelling abroad. The rest will have a birth certificate, if they haven’t lost it, and whatever plastic they may use. The use of ID cards has been resisted, mostly by the right and the (classically) liberal centre.

          So we are unlikely to slip into ‘undocumented’ vocabulary until such time as that situation changes.

          Asylum seekers (who may or may not achieve refugee status), on the other hand, are not legally allowed to work until their situation is resolved. Many asylum seekers are held in places that wouldn’t encourage you to seek asylum.

          Here, if you are interested, is some information on asylum seekers, their origins, their treatment, their rights, their success rates etc. It’s a couple of years out of date, but the gist doesn’t change, although countries of origin might fluctuate. You will be able to find something more current if you need to.


          But, as I said, most of us have no difficulty in understanding the difference between refugees and immigrants, despite the efforts of the far right to confuse the two in people’s minds for their own ends, including when trying to frighten them about the EU (not all our citizens are even informed enough to know we are not in Schengen – or even to have any idea what the Schengen area is).

          I might add that in recent times the rate of immigration from outside the EU has been greater than internal EU immigration. The Home Office had responsibility for this, not the EU, which has nothing whatever to do with non-EU immigration. Again, the far-right was happy to confuse people on this issue at the time of the Brexit vote. They didn’t bother to tell them, for instance, that non-EU immigration was very likely to rise as a result of Brexit. The effect is already being felt.

          The NHS has lost vast numbers of desperately needed nurses and a lot of doctors since the vote. Many fewer people want to come here from the EU, as they perceive the country to be unfriendly to foreigners.

          And with regard to non-EU immigrants, the government has brought in arbitrary and ill thought-out measures such as requiring would-be immigrants to prove that they will earn at least £35,000 in order to enter the country to take up a promised job. I’m a UK citizen and I’ve never earned £35,000. It’s a fair bit above the national average wage. They’ve just had to take special measures to allow exceptions since a whole lot of much-needed doctors, who had accepted job offers in good faith and have hospitals waiting for them, were then unable to enter the country.

          Now, I’m with you in thinking that a country should produce as many of its own doctors and nurses as it possibly can, and there are reasons why this hasn’t happened (existing doctors and nurses are, of course, at liberty to train here, then swan off to Australia to work), but my reasons are different from yours.

          I don’t like the idea of relatively rich countries poaching the doctors and nurses of poorer countries who’ve paid to train them. I’d favour something along the lines of the ‘transfer fee’ that’s paid along with team-swapping footballers, but I realise the complication of it, among other reasons, means it won’t happen. That would discourage rich countries from poaching doctors who are badly needed in their own countries and spending the money they struggle to find on training more of their own.

          And I can’t speak for ‘the Left’. I can only speak for myself.

          • GreenAlba June 17, 2018 at 10:34 am #

            “Those who have been abroad will have a passport, which they are not required to carry unless travelling abroad. ”

            Or, since higher security, boarding an internal plane, I believe. I’m out of touch on this one since I don’t travel by plane within UK borders.

          • GreenAlba June 17, 2018 at 11:42 am #

            “They only came to help. It’s a wonder how Britain ever got on without them.”

            In terms of the NHS, which employs so many of them, that’s an easy one. Prior to 1948, there was no NHS. Lots of poor people just did without medical treatment, as they did without so many other things, like housing fit for human beings.

            It didn’t help that so much of that already substandard and unsanitary housing, which helped make poor people sick, was flattened or incinerated during the war. So there was a lot to do after the war and people we’d previously colonised were invited over to the mother country to help out and make themselves a home.

            And they weren’t exactly treated very well by everyone when they first got here.

          • Exscotticus June 17, 2018 at 2:31 pm #

            >>> But, as I said, most of us have no difficulty in understanding the difference between refugees and immigrants, despite the efforts of the far right to confuse the two in people’s minds for their own ends


            Do you really believe it’s the “far right” who controls the vocabulary in this discussion?! You believe the “far right” controls academia, mass media, bureaucratic institutions, and so on?

            Refugees are a type of immigrant. All refugees are immigrants; not all immigrants are refugees. The difference? Refugees ostensibly have more compelling reasons for entry. But it’s really quite subjective and easy to abuse. For example, for decades, Chinese were able to claim refugee status by simply referencing China’s one-child policy. Effectively, that meant anyone coming from China could claim refugee status whether they intended to have more than one child or not.

            Do you really believe that the USA could absorb the entire population of China? Deng Xiaoping (modern China’s greatest leader by far) once joked that he would send the USA as many Chinese as they want. “How many millions would you like?” he asked.

            For many, the distinction you make between types of immigrants isn’t particularly compelling with regard to policy. Regardless of what you want to call them, there are too many of them, and they’re displacing indigenous cultures and changing indigenous demographics.

            In the USA, the distinction is mostly political: illegal immigrants are relatively easy to deport; refugees require more “process”. Therefore, the Left has shifted the vocabularly so that all immigrants are refugees and thus more difficult to deport. I wish I could tell you that it’s all about their bleeding liberal hearts, but it’s really about votes.

            >>> I don’t like the idea of relatively rich countries poaching the doctors and nurses of poorer countries who’ve paid to train them. I’d favour something along the lines of the ‘transfer fee’ that’s paid along with team-swapping footballers

            Are cities willing to pay the suburbs and rural areas “transfer fees” when they “poach” the best and brightest from these communties? Implicit in your suggestion is the idea that individuals are owned by their communities and can be purchased or traded like commodities. It’s a bad, stupid idea inconsistent with liberty and individualism. If a nation wishes to retain their best and brightest, then they should reward and encourage their best and brightest to stay. But that’s anathema to liberals and socialists who desire “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs”.

            The best thing “first world” nations can do to help refugees is to fix the problems in situ. For example, the EU should set up safe zones in Syria and elsewhere outside the borders of the EU. Despotic destabilizing leaders and regimes should be deposed by force.

          • GreenAlba June 17, 2018 at 2:55 pm #

            “Are cities willing to pay the suburbs and rural areas “transfer fees” when they “poach” the best and brightest from these communties? Implicit in your suggestion is the idea that individuals are owned by their communities and can be purchased or traded like commodities. It’s a bad, stupid idea inconsistent with liberty and individualism.”

            That’s why I said there were other reasons why it wouldn’t work. It’s against basic human rights. I still maintain it’s not fair for a rich country to poach a poor county’s best brains with no compensation, but then it’s not the country that’s asking them to leave. It wasn’t meant as a practical suggestion, more of a fleeting thought on a moral quandary, if you like.

          • GreenAlba June 17, 2018 at 3:02 pm #

            “The best thing “first world” nations can do to help refugees is to fix the problems in situ.”

            I agree. And they do, to some extent. David Cameron made much of the UK’s efforts in exactly this strategy by way of his excuse for taking very few Syrian refugees into the UK, compared to the EU.

            “Despotic destabilizing leaders and regimes should be deposed by force.”

            Destabilising third parties have shown themselves to be a bit of a problem too – e.g. yours and ours in combination.

            For the rest (re immigration) our situation is not the same as yours, so I’ll leave yours to you. But I’d mention that there’s a known drawbridge effect (observed in the UK, anyway) whereby many existing immigrants will vote for a party that is more likely to limit further immigration. So, certainly in the UK, you can’t be sure that immigrants mean votes for one particular party.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 17, 2018 at 3:22 pm #

            Ex: Remember, they Left uses some of your Libertarian ideology to justify itself. To wit: Individuals have the right to go anywhere they desire in search of life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, jobs, etc. Both Capitalism and Communism are all about matter, not Man. Both economic systems that cooperate very well against Nationalism, be it call Fascism or National Socialism – both philosophies of Man, not mere economics.

            The Individual does not reduce to the Collective, but neither does the Collective reduce to an aggregate of mere individuals. An individual CANNOT live a truly human life without a Culture and Society. And it has claims of its own, apart from the individual, either singular or in the aggregate.

            Both Capitalism and Communism promise much justice and prosperity. Capitalism delivers on the latter for some. Communism delivers on neither, typically. But it IS a project of the top Capitalists and Bankers, who used it to break down traditional societies and then the nip Fascism and National Socialism in the bud. Now they’re using it to finish off the Liberal Democracies and middle classes. Their system will have much Communism in it – for us. For them, it will be Capitalism as usual.

          • Exscotticus June 17, 2018 at 3:59 pm #

            >>> Destabilising third parties have shown themselves to be a bit of a problem too – e.g. yours and ours in combination.

            True. You break it you own it, as they say.

            >>> …drawbridge effect… So, certainly in the UK, you can’t be sure that immigrants mean votes for one particular party.

            True. And thanks for conveying the term; I hadn’t heard it before.

            >>> Individuals have the right to go anywhere they desire in search of life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, jobs

            Well isn’t individualism a distinctly Western concept to begin with? As an idea it can of course spread anywhere, but what does individualism mean in a place like China? And why should we expect China to practice it?

            Each nation gets to choose for itself what mix of freedoms and constraints it wants. One size does not fit all. Who can honestly say what the good life entails? Sure we can all agree on undesirable extremes, but that leaves a rather large swathe of variation in between.

            >>> An individual CANNOT live a truly human life without a Culture and Society.

            Agreed. And culture is a “gestalt” in which there are emergent properties that cannot be predicted by examining its citizens.

            But I think we can both agree that it needs to be ONE culture. There has to be enough agreement on the fundamentals to sustain a polity, a nation. Otherwise we fragment, civil war, etc. Remind me: what nations are successfully practicing multiculturalism right now?

        • malthuss June 17, 2018 at 12:52 pm #

          I think the play Equs was about a boy who mutilated horses. / Yes.

          • GreenAlba June 17, 2018 at 2:06 pm #

            But it was called Equus. Cos of the ‘qu’ thing.

          • malthuss June 17, 2018 at 5:59 pm #

            Thanks, Alba.

  44. FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2018 at 6:48 am #

    Donald Trump told his G7 colleagues that the Crimea is Russian, citing as an argument the fact that most Crimeans speak Russian.

    As expected, hysteria broke out in the US media and social networks.

    It intensified after the White House spokeswoman Sarah Sanders declined to comment on these reports, citing the fact that she can not express an opinion on the “private negotiations” in which she did not participate.


    • FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2018 at 6:57 am #

      As a matter of fact, most “Ukrainians” speak Russian as well, especially when they want to sound rational and be understood, specifically in the military.

      When they want to spew their Bandera gibberish, they speak “Ukrainian”.

    • JohnAZ June 16, 2018 at 11:45 am #

      Didn’t Khrushchev give rights to Ukraine to administer Crimea when Ukraine was part of the USSR. With Russia’s primary naval base and warm weather port on it. Think in the US that California seceded from the US what would the Feds do with San Diego naval base, Long Beach, and Alemeda Naval Base in San Francisco. Think we would just let them go? I doubt it. We need to pick our battles a little better.

      • FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2018 at 12:47 pm #

        Khrushchev gave rights to Ukraine to administer Crimea against the acting Constitution of the USSR – it was a long-term plan of the Black Project, part of which Khrushchev was, to plant a seed of future conflict.

        Contrary to what many of you think, that Russia is some kind of completely authoritarian state governed by a whim of current head of state, Rule of Law was always strong in Russia, even during the Stalin purges.

        For example, a granduncle of mine was arrested by the NKVD during the so-called “Industrial Party” affair in the 1930s, but was let go due to lack of evidence.

      • FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2018 at 1:03 pm #

        Khrushchev was largely responsible for compiling the “shooting lists” during so-called “Stalin” purges of 1930s. He was a Trotskyite and anti-Christian politician, largely responsible for persecution of the Russian Orthodox Church in the 1950s – 1960s, despite the pro-Christian Orthodox policy adopted by Stalin in 1943, when he dismissed the Communist International (ComIntern).

        The famous anti-Semitic “Doctor’s Plot” of early 1950s was undoubtedly his vile intrigue, mainly aimed at denying aging Stalin a qualified medical help.

        He was “Ukrainian”.


        • malthuss June 17, 2018 at 6:00 pm #

          How much do you know about the USSR under Joe and Nick?

  45. volodya June 16, 2018 at 11:13 am #

    At the end of the day the IG report is about the Deep State investigating the Deep State. What would you expect? It can say “no political bias” while at the same time laying out instance after instance of exactly that and then insisting it ain’t what yer lyin’ eyes say it is. It’s like Comey proclaiming “no criminal intent”.

    This stuff just isn’t for people unfamiliar with slippery legal reasoning and eight cylinder Latinate terminology with uncertain meaning. This isn’t for people who determine intent simply by observing behavior. Because to such simple folk the facts of the matter would stink of criminal intent. Or political bias. And a finding of criminal intent is NOT the desired outcome. Nor political bias.

    You have to understand the reasons behind an investigation. Do you think it’s always to uncover and enlighten?

    But, at the end of the day, you really need an advanced degree to really understand all this. Because only an advanced degree gives you the ability to do the double-think and triple-think contortions you need to do. Do YOU have an advanced degree? The common sense of the common man does not apply here.

    Don’t bother your pretty head. Just sit down, relax and crack open a cold one.

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  46. Janos Skorenzy June 16, 2018 at 1:40 pm #


    The constant and all pervasive lust for secrecy. It gets to be a habit! They do so many bad things I guess that it just gets to be a reflex to hide.

    ISIS claimed responsibility for the shooting. They are usually accurate, not claiming responsibility when they weren’t involved. Considering the extraordinary gabble and gook coming from the Establishment on this Case, one would tend to believe ISIS. His girlfriend was a Muslim Flip, so he must have converted at some point. Stranger things have happened and will happen ever more frequently as the Hour approaches. Can you not hear the hoof beats of the Four Riders?

  47. elysianfield June 16, 2018 at 1:40 pm #

    Well, ladies and germs,
    Trump explained…the “Art of the Deal” further distilled for those unable to see method in the madness;


    Makes sense….

  48. Pucker June 16, 2018 at 6:52 pm #

    Orlov’s “Communities that Abide”

    What do you think of the Comanche?

    “Seven men were killed in the raid, though that does not begin to describe the horror of what Mackenzie found at the scene. According to Captain Robert G. Carter, Mackenzie’s subordinate, who witnessed its aftermath, the victims were stripped, scalped, and mutilated. Some had been beheaded and others had their brains scooped out. “Their fingers, toes and private parts had been cut off and stuck in their mouths,” wrote Carter, “and their bodies, now lying in several inches of water and swollen or bloated beyond all chance of recognition, were filled full of arrows, which made them resemble porcupines.” They had clearly been tortured, too. “Upon each exposed abdomen had been placed a mass of live coals. . . . One wretched man, Samuel Elliott, who, fighting hard to the last, had evidently been wounded, was found chained between two wagon wheels and, a fire having been made from the wagon pole, he had been slowly roasted to death—‘ burnt to a crisp.’ ”6”

    S. C. Gwynne
    Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches, the Most Powerful Indian Tribe in American History

    • Billy Hill June 16, 2018 at 7:05 pm #

      Thanks Puck. I’ll keep this scene in mind if I find myself ambushed by Comanche. Moral of the story: always save one last bullet.

  49. Pucker June 16, 2018 at 7:09 pm #

    “You put the toxic chemicals in…You take the nutrients out….You the toxins in…And you shake it all about…You do the Hokey Pokey…and You fuck the People all around…That’s what it’s all about. You put the Lies in…You take the Truth out….You put the Lies in…And you shake it all about…You do the Hokey Pokey…and You fuck the People all around…That’s what it’s all about. You put the debts in…You take the Profits out….You put the debts in…And you shake it all about…You do the Hokey Pokey…and You fuck the People all around…That’s what it’s all about.”

  50. Billy Hill June 16, 2018 at 7:40 pm #

    Janos wrote above to no acclaim:

    The great biologist J.B Haldane was asked what light his studies shed on the nature of God or Reality. “A predilection for beetles”, he replied. Indeed Lovecraft said the next race to take over the Earth after Man will be a race of giant, intelligent beetles. They will attain the stars, just as many of the races before man did. We are one of the few races to have failed in their regard.

    This is not trivial. Is the sentence “They will attain the stars, just as many of the races before man did. We are one of the few races to have failed in that (sic) regard.” yours or his? It doesn’t matter since it completes the eschatological hypothesis. The life-force/earth as petri dish, inviting species to transcend mechanism/instrumentality. Was the Scientific Revolution an evolutionary mistake? Consider aircraft or hypersonic nuclear-armed missiles: How Newtonian! No different from major-league bat hitting ball. Imagine quantum sport. You can’t. The Star Trek Transporter: a machine, Instrument. Magicians/Shamans be. Heaven is not a “place”.

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  51. Pucker June 16, 2018 at 7:47 pm #

    How do you describe that feeling that you got when you returned to the Six Flags amusement park post-childhood and you do the log ride again and during the log ride you float past the log fort and then Savage Indian mannequins in a plastic canoe suddenly appear out of nowhere with their arrows drawn and the bored teenager at the microphone at the end of the boat farts and says that you barely made it out alive?

    • K-Dog June 16, 2018 at 9:11 pm #

      One of the biggest reasons I left Elkton Hills was because I was surrounded by phonies. That’s all. They were coming in the goddam window. For instance, they had this headmaster, Mr. Haas, that was the phoniest bastard I ever met in my life. Ten times worse than old Thurmer. On Sundays, for instance, old Haas went around shaking hands with everybody’s parents when they drove up to school. He’d be charming as hell and all. Except if some boy had little old funny-looking parents. You should’ve seen the way he did with my roommate’s parents. I mean if a boy’s mother was sort of fat or corny-looking or something, and if somebody’s father was one of those guys that wear those suits with very big shoulders and corny black-and-white shoes, then old Haas would just shake hands with them and give them a phony smile and then he’d go talk, for maybe a half an hour, with somebody else’s parents. I can’t stand that stuff. It drives me crazy. It makes me so depressed I go crazy. I hated that goddam Elkton Hills.” <=JDS

      • elysianfield June 17, 2018 at 11:27 am #

        Wry comment….

        • K-Dog June 17, 2018 at 7:41 pm #

          You caught me….

  52. akmofo June 16, 2018 at 7:57 pm #

    History is back!


    The Germans will soon see all their imperialist globalist nazi “progressive” schemes and institutions repudiated and dismantled.

  53. FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2018 at 9:07 pm #

    G7 or G6+1?

    Or Le roi s’amuse


    Slowly, the details of G-7 become known, and the participants themselves leak the information of these events, and they leak so bad as if Trump had smeared their ass with turpentine and they can not hide their impressions of this procedure. Although no, I learned some very interesting details yesterday from a man who, judging by the photographs on his walls, could really learn something “exclusive”.

    For example, the media widely covers Trump’s words that he was tired of Theresa May’s mentor’s tone, making a classy lady out of herself, and man with photos on his wall told me in secret to the whole world that he aggravated these words with a story about how he wants to shoot her from a slingshot, and gave this story another dimension by telling that this slingshot was given to him by Putin in Hamburg.

    And if you remember how Theresa May climbed the podium in the City of London, which is not the territory of the United Kingdom, and subjected Trump to quite boorish criticism, forcing him to exclude the capital by mixing the conversation about tariffs with the support of a Muslim – the mayor of London, who, accusing Trump of Islamophobia, managed to even outdo Hillary Clinton.


    Meanwhile, the conversation about tariffs was quite serious, as the European Union then tried to take advantage of the special status of the City of London in order to exclude it from the Brexit agreement and crack the UK economy in the same way that the Russian Customs Union was going to be breached by the Euro-association of Ukraine.

    It was after I reminded the man with the photos of this circumstance that he jumped up like Tom Sawyer’s cat, who had gulped a good dose of a pain killer, and told me about Theresa May, shot from slingshot, about Juncker, who recently confessed that Trump called him a murderer; about Shinzo Abe, to whom Trump explained the specifics of the US immigration policy by suggesting sending 25 million Mexicans to Japan; but most importantly, Trump asked Angela Merkel whether it was true that she was Hitler’s daughter.

    I must say that the latter perfectly explains the reason for the publication by a head of the Fourth Reich of this photo:

    P.S. Personally, I doubt that Trump asked Angela Merkel if she was Hitler’s daughter and wrote this just to make you understand that something extraordinary happened at the G-7 summit in Richelieu and we do not know anything about it yet.

    • GreenAlba June 17, 2018 at 12:57 pm #

      “he aggravated these words with a story about how he wants to shoot her from a slingshot, and gave this story another dimension by telling that this slingshot was given to him by Putin in Hamburg.”

      Please do take her away to Hamburg or Moscow to use for slingshot practice. We don’t mind – really we don’t. You can have Boris too, either as part of a BOGOF arrangement or just free. In fact, truth be told, we’d pay you to take them off our hands. Rees-Mogg too (especially for the slingshot practice, please – I’ll take first ceremonial shot as a goodwill gesture).

      “And if you remember how Theresa May climbed the podium in the City of London, which is not the territory of the United Kingdom…”

      Oh God, again…

      You have neglected to explain why Theresa May feels entitled to say anything at all about the City of London if it is not the territory of the UK. She is Prime Minister of the UK, not of exclaves* of some other jurisdiction (or non-geographical ‘coloured project’).

      And if the City of London isn’t part of the UK, then it won’t be paying taxes to the UK treasury (which it actually does, in real life) or employing UK persons to lower UK unemployment (which isn’t high, but still). In fact I can see no reason why she would care about it at all.

      *Re exclaves, I’d never heard of this word until yesterday evening when looking into the location of Kaliningrad as part of my being unavoidably sucked into involvement in the FIFA World Cup match being played there (other half regularly invites me to put a fiver on one team or other during these affairs ‘for fun’).

      On the map, being Kaliningrad looked a bit like being West Berlin back in the day, but without the blockade.

  54. FincaInTheMountains June 16, 2018 at 9:28 pm #

    The death of a genius

    Yesterday, Physicist Stephen Hawking’s ashes interred at Westminster Abbey between the graves of Newton and Darwin


    There is something providential in that the principles of Christian science, restored in the early 20th century by Planck, Einstein and Friedman, were advocated by an atheist at the end of the 20th century, when information became a natural scientific category, who was buried between the deeply and sincerely believing Isaac Newton , who laid the foundations of the scientific method, became a theologian and received the knighthood for his theological research, and the Gnostic who created the most anti-Christian of the theories of the most anti-Christian age.

    • akmofo June 16, 2018 at 10:11 pm #

      The characters you mention are part of the greatest Vatican black comedy clown show and metaphysical deceit human kind has ever witnessed. It is right up there with the Roman “Christ” fakery, scripted by the Roman Emperor Vespasian after the destruction of Judaea and Jerusalem.

      Like Darwinism such nonsense will soon only be remembered for the nonsense it is.

  55. BackRowHeckler June 16, 2018 at 10:31 pm #

    Austria has mobilized its army in response to tens of thousands of ‘Migrants’ headed its way from west Asia.

    In Spain, the new leftist Prime Minister is accepting shiploads of black Africans who crossed the Med but can no longer can find a landing in Italy; Italy has had enough. Spain, as well as France, will be the new destination for these hopeful ‘refugees’.

    Sometime it seems as tho the entire third world is in the process of emptying out into western Europe, Canada and the United States, aided by leftist politicians who cite their humanitarian instincts but who may in fact have other, more sinister motives.


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  56. BackRowHeckler June 16, 2018 at 11:09 pm #

    Well, I’m taking the summer off from this job. The boss said “We might not hire you back this time”. But they always do. Who else is going to work 3rd shift, breathing in ink and paper dust all night, listening to the racket these big web presses make?

    A few of my Jamaican friends bought me a case of Red Stripe as a send off gift. We busted it open and were downing a few on the loading dock at 4:00 am, the Jamaicans partaking in other forms of recreational enjoyment too. One old guy, Shakespeare, says to me “Marlin, have a righteous summer”, which is what I intend to do.


    • ozone June 17, 2018 at 10:12 am #

      Try to drop by this summer while the weather is comfortable for the angling; after all, we’re just a short hop from ye olde fishin’ hole…..

    • ozone June 17, 2018 at 10:17 am #

      At the Burlington Men’s Club next Sunday (24th) for the Pig Roast. Tickets at the door ($20?); loads of food and rivers of beer included in the price. I’ll howl from 2-5 if you’d rather avoid that. 😉

      • stelmosfire June 17, 2018 at 10:36 am #

        “Burlington MEN’S Club” say it ain’t so! I’m aghast at their lack of a PC name. I’m sure it is short to this world! Soon to be “Burlington LGBTWXYZ Club” after the SJW’s get a whiff of this sacrilege. Also PETA says take down the dead animal displays!

        • ozone June 17, 2018 at 10:51 am #

          Them “mens” are (for the mostest part) all old curmudgeons; I don’t think there’s anyone who would risk telling them what to do…
          Kick that alcohol-soaked hornet’s nest and you’ll get stung! lol

  57. Tate June 16, 2018 at 11:28 pm #

    Jared Taylor Wins First Round in Anti-Censorship Lawsuit Against Twitter

    “Yesterday, California Superior Court Judge Harold E. Kahn rejected Twitter’s petition to dismiss the suit Jared Taylor brought against Twitter for banning his Twitter account and that of his organization, American Renaissance. The judge also rejected Twitter’s motion under California’s Anti-SLAPP law to strike the complaint, adding that it was ‘hard to imagine a clearer public interest lawsuit.’

    “Judge Kahn described Taylor’s complaint as ‘very eloquent,’ adding that “it goes to the heart of free speech principles that long precede our constitution.’

    “Judge Kahn recognized Taylor’s claim under California’s Unfair Competition Law (UCL) that Twitter could be, in effect, guilty of false advertising by holding itself out as a public forum for free speech while reserving the right to ban the expression of ideas with which it disagrees. Judge Kahn also recognized Taylor’s claim under the UCL that Twitter’s terms of service—according to which it claims the right to ban any user any time for any reason—may well be ‘unconscionable,’ and a violation of the law.

    “In oral argument, Judge Kahn asked: ‘Twitter can discriminate on the basis of religion, or gender, or sexual preference, or physical disability, or mental disability?’ Counsel for Twitter conceded that it claimed that right—even though it would never exercise it. Judge Kahn denied that Twitter has such a right.

    “This is the first time censorship by a social media platform—an increasingly widespread practice seen by many as discrimination against conservative viewpoints—has been found actionable under state or federal law. This finding could have far-reaching consequences for other internet platforms that have become essential vehicles for the expression of ideas but that silence voices with which they disagree.

    Twitter now has 30 days to answer Taylor’s claims.

  58. Pucker June 17, 2018 at 6:25 am #

    Happy Father’s Day

    “No other tribe, except possibly the Kiowas, so completely lived on horseback. Children were given their own horses at four or five. Soon the boys were expected to learn tricks, which included picking up objects on the ground at a gallop. The young rider would start with light objects and move to progressively heavier objects until finally, without assistance and at a full gallop, he could pick up a man. Rescuing a fallen comrade was seen as one of the most basic obligations of a Comanche warrior.”

    S. C. Gwynne
    Empire of the Summer Moon: Quanah Parker and the Rise and Fall of the Comanches, the Most Powerful Indian Tribe in American History

    • K-Dog June 17, 2018 at 1:53 pm #

      During the height of the horse-and-bison culture, Kiowa beliefs were founded in the notion of daudau, a force permeating the universe that was accessible through vision quests. Following the end of the Southern Plains wars in 1875, the Kiowas were confined within the boundaries of the Kiowa-Comanche-Apache (Plains Apache) Reservation. As wards of the government, they witnessed the extinction of the bison herds, which led to the collapse of the Sun Dance by 1890. Though prophet movements in the 1880s had failed to restore the bison, other religions emerged to fill the void left by the loss of the Sun Dance. Kiowas now sought daudau through the Ghost Dance, Christianity, and the Peyote religion.
      ” <== Religious Revitalization among the Kiowas

      May the daudau be with you.

  59. akmofo June 17, 2018 at 6:57 am #

    Paul Weston: Democracy Trampled


    The Nazi Commie left strikes again with complete silence and complicity of the British establishment and the commie media.

    • K-Dog June 17, 2018 at 1:29 pm #

      If I can have a video taken of me in front of my bookcase but all my books are totally different than Paul’s does that make us both smart or both dumb? Would it make a difference if you knew I built my bookcase myself from raw lumber? And who exactly is a someone from the Nazi Commie Left? I ask because I could not watch Paul. It is too painful. Not because of anything he might say but because he looks so tired. His eyes are blank and this dude needs some serious rest. He has been worrying about immigrant gang rapes altogether too much and if you are for violent revolution(Paul is I saw that much) don’t tell anybody! If that is not a sure sign of being overtired what is?

      • GreenAlba June 17, 2018 at 1:45 pm #

        I saw he had Francis Wheen’s ‘How Mumbo-Jumbo Conquered the World’ which is an excellent book of essays. Other than that I couldn’t say (or really see, in some cases) but mostly I couldn’t be bothered.

        I didn’t know who he was, but I now know that he’s been in pretty much every far-right fruit-loop party there is and in the 2015 general election for Luton South he got 158 votes (1.4%). So now I’m really impressed by his popular support. Not.

        And the lass he’s talking about appears to be from Dublin…

        “Waters, who identifies as lesbian and is in a civil partnership, says she has been an LGBT activist since her days at university. Until June 2014, Waters was a director of the National Secular Society. She also identifies as a feminist and an agnostic.”

        So, a tough one for Janos when he pops by…strange bedfellows, but you have to take support where you can find it, I suppose. And she’s very, very right wing. Way too right wing for UKIP, it seems, so she was jettisoned from her leadership bid (and, my God, there have been a few of those over the years).

        But she got 266 votes (1.2%) in the 2018 Lewisham by-election, so yeah, the gal’s going places. At least faster than Paul. Maybe he’ll do better after some rest.

        • GreenAlba June 17, 2018 at 2:19 pm #

          Oops, Paul’s just got the lead in percentage terms, but they’re neck and neck (as they look enviously at everyone else’s ankles far in front of them…)

        • K-Dog June 17, 2018 at 2:39 pm #

          ‘How Mumbo-Jumbo Conquered the World,’ good book, I looked at the Amazon preview. First review was negative but a negative review 1500+ words long dost protest too much methinks. It made me want to read chapter 4.

          Janos could say she needs a lot of help finding herself. But Janos is too much of a scared bunny to offer to ‘cure’ her and find it himself. It will be interesting to see what he says, if anything.

          • Q. Shtik June 17, 2018 at 11:02 pm #

            a negative review 1500+ words long dost protest too much methinks. –


            Now, if I had written this sentence I would have used doth.

          • Q. Shtik June 17, 2018 at 11:06 pm #

            Shakespeare used doth but who knows, maybe he had a lisp (which he would have called a lithp).

          • GreenAlba June 18, 2018 at 9:19 am #

            “Shakespeare used doth”

            He also used ‘dost’, when appropriate.

            I do
            Thou dost (or doest if it’s not an auxiliary, hence ‘thou dost not hear’, but ‘thou doest good’)
            S/he doth (or doeth, as above)
            We/you/ye/they do

            I just didn’t think it needed commenting on (awareness of ending sentence with a preposition is acknowledged).

            You folks are beginning to make me think y’all didn’t read or listen to as much of the King James Bible as I had to, cuz otherwise you’d know your thous, thines, thys, dosts, doths, hasts, arts, shouldsts, wouldsts, couldsts, dursts and the rest without having to think about it 🙂 .

            Here endeth the lesson…

          • GreenAlba June 18, 2018 at 9:27 am #

            And I realise that comment was limited in terms of its cultural applicability. ‘Twas not meant in great seriousness.

      • akmofo June 17, 2018 at 2:49 pm #

        “.. who exactly is a someone from the Nazi Commie Left?..”

        Ever hear of Antifa? How would you describe them, not as nazi commie thugs?

        Furthermore, the nazis and the commies are a fake and manufactured political duality. A fake and manufactured political duality created by the Vatican to serve a political dialectic, and an agenda of supreme government centralization totalitarianism mass murder and terror. A “New World Order” which is really a copy of a very old world order.

        Another fake duality you might be more familiar with, is that of the US gov mafia — The Republicrats. A deliberately manufactured duopoly that is singly run by the banks and their corporations.

        But you can go back to sleep now. You and Mrs Green Narnia.


        • K-Dog June 17, 2018 at 3:13 pm #

          “manufactured political duality created by the Vatican to serve a political dialectic”

          No doubt related to the international trade in child sex slave prostitutes by the pope in his centralized campaign of terror!

          • capt spaulding June 17, 2018 at 4:22 pm #

            I hear he’s running it out of a pizza parlor right next to the Vatican.

  60. malthuss June 17, 2018 at 6:03 pm #


    See Taki Mag for what Netflix forbids at work.

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  61. FincaInTheMountains June 17, 2018 at 6:59 pm #

    The World Civil War is gaining political flesh and blood

    I had the opportunity to see this tonight. Someone in Russia and the United States tried to provoke, if not a civil war, then serious riots for certain. Simultaneously and in my opinion, coordinated.

    In Russia, in connection with the pension reform and the World Cup, and in the US in connection with the report of the Inspector General and an interview on the lawn before the White House, given by President Trump on Friday.

    The most common or rather the most memorable title in Russia was the word Bombanulo, and in America President’s lies.

    Bombanulo – Russian slang, something unexpected, drastically out of ordinary.

    I want to draw your attention to the similarity of scripts in Moscow and Washington. In Russia, the indignation against the absolutely cannibal pension reform that Medvedev felt urgent to vote on at the time when the World Cup is held in Russia and in US was exploited the indignation of Trump’s supporters by imprisonment under the obviously contrived pretext of the former manager of Trump’s election campaign Manafort, which was as meaningless as Medvedev’s pension reform. Meaningless because whatever testimony they could squeeze out of Manafort, no one will believe them after the report of the Inspector General and before the election.

    I can not judge the degree of explosiveness of the situation in Russia, but for now I remember the word Bombanulo, which I read several times in the Facebook and Live Journal. But I can feel America on the gut level and if someone jerks in Russia, then in the US it will Bombanulo in full, and with my brains I can understand that what I feel with guts is not an aberration of history, but a very ancient and powerful tradition, the best described by Walter Scott in the novel “Ivanhoe”, as a joint booze party of Richard the Lionheart and free archers of Robin Hood on the eve of the storming of the castle of de Bois-Guilbert.

    Exactly such a booze party was President’s interview on Friday, when Trump, drunk with his success in Singapore, began to spill the bare-bone truth, and the role of free Robin Hood archers was played by TV viewers. This is evident from the reaction to this interview of the establishment media, which I just enjoyed watching on the Sunday political programs. They together in chorus called Trump’s Truth the Trump’s lies, and the Republican FOX5 was not there today, as the channel was busy with a live broadcast of the baseball game.


  62. jim e June 17, 2018 at 7:08 pm #


  63. FincaInTheMountains June 17, 2018 at 7:14 pm #

    Tomorrow I will talk about the role of Stephen Hawking, since the scientific method is unique for both theoretical physics and economics and without it it is impossible to understand how Hawking’s black holes differ from the black holes of the liberal economic transformations.

    And why the economic science of Eugeny Varya was replaced by the economic science of Eugeny Yasin, in the black hole of which disappeared the public funds of consumption of the USSR, the Russian Academy of Sciences, and now the Russian hard-earned pensions about to disappear as well.

    Medvedev is now going to sacrifice those, who by some miracle survived the damned 1990’s in Russia,

    And those who think that the Academy of Sciences is of value only to academics only, let them not complain about the same damned 90s, because when the Science is replaced by the Gnostic science, its idols sooner or later begin to require human sacrifices.

  64. BackRowHeckler June 17, 2018 at 8:09 pm #

    Oz, if you’re looking in, I’ll try to make it up there.

    Not working nights anymore green lights me drink as much as i want during the day. Maybe some of the crew here may want to come along too.

    Stelmose, its not too far from where your at, just down 10 then west on 4. Lets meet up.


    • Q. Shtik June 17, 2018 at 11:22 pm #

      Is this in CT or Mass?

    • ozone June 18, 2018 at 8:03 am #

      OK then.
      Barring a large snowstorm, I’ll be there as it’s a rain or shine event……
      (If I’d like to get paid, it’s kind of a requirement. 😉 )

  65. KesaAnna June 18, 2018 at 4:13 am #

    ” Kesa, you simply MUST learn to make your points in fewer words.”

    Here’s a try ;

    If religion is make-believe , it is a make-believe SOMETHING.

    ” He who dies with the most toys wins ” * —

    ( * in fine print ; And those who won won’t even know because now they don’t exist . )

    — is for billions of people , yesterday , today , and tomorrow , a real NOTHING.

    And no matter how much , or how little , you write , it alters that not one jot.

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    • KesaAnna June 18, 2018 at 4:32 am #

      It’s your cosmology which is fantastically cruel and abusive , to adults or children.

  66. KesaAnna June 18, 2018 at 4:29 am #

    ” Kesa,
    I love your posts…what I can understand of them. ”

    ” I love your posts. ”

    If it came with a big check it might be sorta flattering. otherwise it doesn’t really tell me anything.

    ” what I can understand of them. ”

    Likewise , this doesn’t really tell me anything.


    ” Kesa,
    For your consideration; ”

    What I would consider is — if you spent ten hours of your time explaining to me what you think of it.

    And then I got to spend two minutes writing out a reply that tells you nothing.

    • elysianfield June 18, 2018 at 11:59 am #

      I consider, above all other posts, first person accounts the most informative. The fact that you spent years in East Germany adds to the level of interest…an “exotic” locale. Your obvious intelligence, and constant truculence certainly adds…spice.

      Sometimes it is difficult following your “stream of consciousness” dialogue….

      Child sex dolls? I honestly have not formulated a considered opinion.


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