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Welcome to Blackswansville

W hile the folks clogging the US tattoo parlors may not have noticed, things are beginning to look a little World War one-ish out there. Except the current blossoming world conflict is being fought not with massed troops and tanks but with interest rates and repayment schedules. Germany now dawdles in reply to the gauntlet slammed down Sunday in the Greek referendum (hell) “no” vote. Germany’s immediate strategy, it appears, is to apply some good old fashioned Teutonic todesfurcht — let the Greeks simmer in their own juices for a few days while depositors suck the dwindling cash reserves from the banks and the grocery store shelves empty out. Then what?

Nobody knows. And anything can happen.

One thing we ought to know: both sides in the current skirmish are fighting reality. The Germans foolishly insist that the Greek’s meet their debt obligations. The German’s are just pissing into the wind on that one, a hazardous business for a nation of beer drinkers. The Greeks insist on living the 20th century deluxe industrial age lifestyle, complete with 24/7 electricity, cheap groceries, cushy office jobs, early retirement, and plenty of walking-around money. They’ll be lucky if they land back in the 1800s, comfort-wise.

The Greeks may not recognize this, but they are in the vanguard of a movement that is wrenching the techno-industrial nations back to much older, more local, and simpler living arrangements. The Euro, by contrast, represents the trend that is over: centralization and bigness. The big questions are whether the latter still has enough mojo left to drag out the transition process, and for how long, and how painfully.

World affairs suffer from the disease of terminal excessive complexity. To make matters worse, much of the late-phase complexity operates in the service of accounting fraud of one kind or another. The world’s banking system is mired in the unreality of so many unmeetable obligations, cooked books, three-card-monte swap gimmicks, interest rate euchres, secret arbitrages, market manipulation monkeyshines, and countless other cons, swindles, and hornswoggles that all the auditors ever born could not produce a coherent record of what has been wreaked in the life of this universe (or several parallel universes). Remember Long Term Capital Management? That’s what the world has become.

What happens in the case of untenable complexity is that it tends to unravel fast and furiously. That’s exactly why avalanches and earthquakes happen all at once, not stretched out over a six week period. The global financial scene not so different. It’s just another matrix of linked mutually-supporting relationships that can implode if a few members weaken.

One question worth reflecting on is whether the implosion is actually well underway on-the-ground in real economies, with just the scrim of illusion to make the surface appear intact. That surely seems to be the case in the USA, where the so-called economy has already avalanched into a rubble heap of part-time scut jobs, defaulted college loans, underwater mortgages, and groaning pension funds — with an overlay of pointless and endless motoring.

Over in Euroland, the Greek “no” also implies that every other sovereign nation wallowing in deep financial shit will demand a haircut (and a disinfectant shower). Italy, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, and even France cannot possibly meet their debt obligations. Their citizens are being taunted with currency controls, too, and they have every bit as much potential to go ape-y as the Greeks. Notice you haven’t heard much from their leaders and financial ministers in recent weeks. They are all standing on the sidelines watching the Greeks go through the wringer — but you can be sure they are all making plans of their own.

The failure of the European experiment will be extremely demoralizing to the hopeful citizens of that continent, who emerged from the bloodbath of the early 20th century to become the world’s premier peaceful tourist theme park. I don’t know that they necessarily have to go back to fighting each other on battlefields with things that blow up and destroy human flesh, but they surely have to decentralize and re-fashion some kind of simpler, local way-of-life if they expect to remain civilized.

It’ll happen everywhere. The Japanese are next, of course, and they may be the most fortunate, since they retain more than a few shreds of memory for exactly that mode of life: the Tokugawa shogunate (the Edo period, 1600 – 1853), a manner of high pre-industrial economy and culture that might have persisted indefinitely had not Commodore Perry come knocking on their door, so to speak, in his “black ships.”

Ukraine is about halfway back to being medieval with excellent potential to overshoot even that. The Euroland PIIG(F) nations don’t have the energy resources to extend Modernity, even if the banking system wasn’t terminally ill, and then on top of that they have the ethno-demographic quandary of creeping Muslimization — plus the additional flotillas of desperate boat people arriving daily.

America, count your blessings. Tattoos, obesity, drug use, and shiftlessness are all basically behavioral choices. You don’t need a finance minister or a central banker to overcome those problems.

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560 Responses to “Welcome to Blackswansville”

  1. bigpete55 July 6, 2015 at 9:58 am #

    IT’s good to be the King!

  2. noel bodie July 6, 2015 at 9:59 am #

    Well, with that cheery Monday morning read I think I will: a. Slit my wrist or b. check the potatoes for Colorado potato beetles…. I think I’ll go with plan b.

  3. RobH July 6, 2015 at 10:02 am #

    After a lot of speculation, an actual collapse type event occurred!

    There is at least some democracy in Greece, unlike elsewhere


    As for Japan. Having recently visited I think they’ll cope on the downward slope better than some. Something about the behaviour of the people and the culture makes me think they will do better in hard times than more ‘brash’ nations

    • uslabor July 6, 2015 at 10:33 am #

      I think you are right about the Japanese people, but what about that simmering mess in Fukushima?

      • Beryl of Oyl July 6, 2015 at 12:34 pm #

        Speaking of messes, that bp mess was back in the news because they are paying more for the damage. What damage? I thought the oil suddenly went away.

      • BeerBarrel July 6, 2015 at 8:14 pm #

        Toshiba recently revealed the next robot they’re planning to send down into the chamber of horrors that is the containment vessel so they can get the first images of what they’re actually dealing with. The radiation close-up is so intense that it drives robots haywire! Get that. There’s not yet any idea of what really is going on – so meanwhile, an everlasting stream of seawater is sent soaring into the harsh sky above the outer containment building in an effort to maintain at least some semblance of stability – that is – to keep the seething nuclear mass from going mass-critical! Ever heard of skyshine? That’s the effect of radiation projected upwards by the outer containment building and then back downwards, reflecting from air molecules, and onto anything and anyone who dares venture within a few hundred yards.

        It’s a big, eternal mess, and would easily qualify as one of the great biblical plagues of Armageddon.

        that allowed the seething mass of nuclear horror reach the ground and begin to bubble its way, searing the earth as it melts the ground on which it sits as it sinks farther and farther into the soil.

        • BeerBarrel July 6, 2015 at 8:18 pm #

          (that last paragraph shouldn’t be there)

          I forgot to mention what happens to all that seawater – it gets captured into a vast field of water tanks where one day, presumably, the water will be washed of its radioactive particles and released back into the sea. But we know that ain’t going to happen – it is going to be released either by accident or by design to poison every living thing that swims within it.

          • wholy1 July 9, 2015 at 7:19 pm #

            Considering the direction of the Trade Winds, ocean currents, and USA respective location, me thinks the [karmic] retribution of the Hiroshima/Nagasaki “experiments” is coming full circle!

      • routersurfer July 13, 2015 at 12:08 am #

        Well,uslabor you are right. It will be long term problem only to be solved by time. No techno fix for that mess ! Best just say “Spirits” live in those lands and let that rule the land for about a million years. But, we have the same problem here in the USA. Zones of radiation and chemical poison that will zap you as you just go about your day to day hunt for survival. Look at a map of chemical plants and nuclear plants next to oceans and major rivers that WILL flood with global warming in the coming years. WE HAVE NO TECHNO FIX for that. Also write off the SW test zones & huge parts of TX 🙂 Still all in all I think the Nipponese will come out of the crash in better shape than we will. They will have a culture to go back to and pre-industrial trades.

  4. bigpete55 July 6, 2015 at 10:06 am #

    No, seriously, we can all wring our hands and debate this stuff ad nauseam but a salient fact in all this is that humanity’s trajectory to this point, especially in America since the Industrial Revolution made the current situation tragically inevitable. Yeah sure we could have made different choices, but we didn’t, and we often don’t. Yet I am not so hopeless as I once was. I think Harry Dent’s research is valuable as he point’s out that, although Kunstler’s analysis is valid (emphasis mine), demographics are the real back story and it will not be the end of the world……but the turnaround (like in the Perfect Storm) is going to be real freakin messy!

    • hineshammer July 6, 2015 at 4:54 pm #

      “Yeah sure we could have made different choices, but we didn’t, and we often don’t.”

      Sorry, but that sentence makes no sense. Think about it.

      • bigpete55 July 6, 2015 at 6:36 pm #

        I thought about it before I posted. Why don’t you give it a go.

        • hineshammer July 7, 2015 at 1:51 pm #

          “We often don’t [make different choices].” Different from what? I could understand if you typed “better choices”. That would make sense, but different? Any choice made is, by definition, different.

          • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 4:46 pm #


            We as a nation often make the same choice. some talk about “extend and pretend” others talk of choices that are always benefiting the 1%.

            We need different choices, not the Status Quo. Kunstler is saying that the situation is shifting dramatically, and we, as a nation need to make different choices than we have become accustomed to.

            I am changing around my life dramatically. If I don’t need to, please lat me know ASAP.

          • hineshammer July 7, 2015 at 6:11 pm #

            Uh, ok.

          • bigpete55 July 9, 2015 at 6:44 pm #

            The phrase I used was a (Yogi) Berra-ism. I thought it would be understood as intended. Sorry.

      • wholy1 July 9, 2015 at 7:22 pm #

        I respectfully reject your offer of “we”, unless you speak French or have a turd in your pocket.

  5. Smoky Joe July 6, 2015 at 10:10 am #

    “America, count your blessings. Tattoos, obesity, drug use, and shiftlessness are all basically behavioral choices. You don’t need a finance minister or a central banker to overcome those problems.”

    We have the Myth of Entitlement, the Cult of Celebrity, and the loss of local cultures and networks of local and sustainable commerce to overcome. You realize that in many rural areas of my state, there are NO local restaurants or markets left? None?

    I’ve traveled recently in most of the PIGS nations. Parts of Ireland resemble the worst bits of the the US: Rust-Belt towns or Appalachian “hollers,” but overall they are in better shape than either US locale because the people say “well, we are poor again!” instead of “how can I become Kim Kardashian?” Even Limerick, one of the most battered Irish cities, has a viable and open-for-business urban core.

    Ireland, Greece, Spain, and Portugal all can rebuild local-scale economies after a Collapse. Americans will have a rougher transition to doing things “by hand.” Many of the tattooed fatties would sooner die than do physical work.

    • orbit7er July 6, 2015 at 10:26 am #

      I stayed in Limerick during an Irish trip in June last year. Delightful city! Easily walked from a very nice hotel on the river to a thriving Pub playing Irish music where I even got to sit on on harmonica!
      Also throughout Ireland I noticed many more people walking or riding bikes than you see in the deserted streets and sidewalks of sprawl America…

      • Beryl of Oyl July 6, 2015 at 12:32 pm #

        I used to ride a bicycle when I was younger. I wouldn’t do it today, except on a bike path, it is just too dangerous. Even crossing the street is too dangerous, in most communities.
        Why is there a speed limit of thirty mph in places where you can expect people to be in the road from time to time, anyway?

        • Q. Shtik July 6, 2015 at 12:42 pm #

          Beryl, I’m going to make a wild-ass guess here……… you are a nonagenarian.

          • Beryl of Oyl July 6, 2015 at 1:01 pm #

            Nope. I’m a very active pedestrian, I probably walk more miles on any given day than many do in a week, and I am facing up to reality.
            A woman was killed at the Latham Farms Walmart, walking from the store to her car. A woman was killed in the crosswalk in front of the Niskayuna Co-op. I’ve personally known three people killed because they needed to cross Central Avenue. I could go on and on, but one incident that sticks in my mind as the woman who ran a business in Troy, who was killed riding her bike on Western Avenue in Albany. Western Avenue at that point is the bike route. She wasn’t identified right away because she was so fit she appeared much younger than she was. The accident was said to be her fault. Later, a man was killed crossing the street in exactly the same place, and it was his fault too, even though he was in the crosswalk. When people you know, or people who do what you do are getting killed doing it, it is time to reevaluate the safety.
            This makes some people mad, I know, but it’s my life, not theirs.

          • Lawfish July 6, 2015 at 1:24 pm #

            I’m with Beryl. In the 1990’s and early 2000’s, I was hit by cars while riding a mountain bike, once in a parking lot and once by oncoming traffic. If there were dedicated bike lanes, I’d ride, but I’m not risking my life any more.

          • dannyboy July 6, 2015 at 8:23 pm #

            Beryl of Oyl

            Your description could be my avenue here in Manhattan. Pedestrians killed like flies.I have been pretty good at predicting the next pedestrian death because I have a System.

            I just watch what the local pols do with the traffic management. Soon as one makes an “Improvement”, I observe a bit and predict just how their latest “Improvement” will result in the next pedestrian death.

            This could be good satire, if it weren’t really true. I see kids bodies after they get killed crossing the street holding their parent’s hand! I wish I were making this up.

            I catch my local councilperson being filmed in the latest Propaganda Film so, of course, I inject myself into the filming (if I don’t, who will). Well the narrative of the little propaganda is how the councilperson has gotten an island placed in the middle of the avenue “so the elderly will be safer, crossing”. So I gotta challenge that. I mean the whole fkn thing is done to get votes from old people. But I just made the observation that now there’s twice the chance of stepping off the curb into an oncoming car.

            I’d make bets on these deaths, but that would be both too easy and kinda disrespectful. But the pols don’t care nothing about disrespect.

        • RocketDoc July 6, 2015 at 1:23 pm #

          You are wise to be careful. I ride 2,000-3,000 miles/yr. and have done so for 30+ years. I ride to work 1-2x/month. It is number 3 for emergency room admissions after hang gliding and rock climbing. Today is worse than in the past because of video game psychology–Reality is not really real and do-overs are just part of playing. And People cannot put down their phones EVER, even when driving 2 tons of lethal machinery. If a collapse could just double gas prices and not leave store shelves bare or the electricity off–I’m all for it.

          • Q. Shtik July 6, 2015 at 3:00 pm #

            To Beryl, Law and Rocket,

            The answer to your problem is obvious: stop walking and riding bikes. Get around in a big heavy SUV. Consider a Lincoln Navigator or a Toyota Yukon.

          • hineshammer July 6, 2015 at 5:00 pm #

            Yukon is GMC, not Toyota. Duh!

        • BeerBarrel July 6, 2015 at 3:16 pm #

          Those driving vehicles enter a time-warp – and God help anyone who causes any disruption of even the smallest time loss. Potentially losing less than five seconds is cause for road rage with varying outcomes. Oil is a teaser of God-like powers with which many are corrupted. With oil, we transcend meekness.

          I bike commute frequently, and on one day on an otherwise empty street, some asshole landscaping company truck driver hauling a trailer of lawnmowers could not bear to wait for me to pass the house they were about to visit but instead, accelerated, and dove into the parking spot right in front of me nearly forcing me off the road. Just to save less than five seconds – all the dumb-fuck had to do is wait for me to pass the house – so little time it would have taken as I had already begun to cross the property line!

          It’s that kind of shit that goes on. I bought myself a huge Diesel pickup so I could enjoy Oil’s last hurrah – why not – when it goes we’re all fucked anyway and at least I can start helping out with the local farms – try that in a Prius. The higher vantage point is revealing – girls with tight skirts and stick-shifts for example – but appallingly, a new trend I’ve noticed is how people now race to the next light hoping for it to be RED so they can again pick up their phone and text/browse some more. It is AMAZING how important whatever little tidbit could be on that phone is – smart phones are the ultimate distraction – even time loss is mitigated!

          • islander800 July 6, 2015 at 7:21 pm #

            Here in British Columbia, our provincial Tea-Party-Lite government recently raised the speed limit on highways and told cops to clamp down on so-called “left lane hogs” because…. well, we just have to get there faster. Meanwhile, there was a major bus accident on a 70 mph highway last week where the bus plowed into a tow truck assisting a car on the shoulder. The tow truck/car location was well marked and attendants were flagging traffic to slow down. The bus didn’t even put on the brakes and hit at full speed. Thirty-seven people injured but miraculously no deaths. No word yet, but looks suspiciously like a texting bus driver.

            The best, and most straightforward solution is to mandate cell phone/ignition interlocks. Vehicle is started, smart phone turns off. There is no emergency that can’t wait until pulling over and shutting off the vehicle to respond to, or make, a call. Technically, there’s no barrier to this, only political will. We have all the evidence to show that, for whatever reason, smart phones are worse than crack cocaine for human beings. They are incompatible with piloting 2 tons of metal at 70, or 40, or 10 mph. So let’s act.

            Yeah, wait for it, but don’t hold your breath.

          • Yuri Sowryteski July 9, 2015 at 10:31 pm #

            Yea, I was rear-ended in my red pickup truck, totaled. I put a wood bed on it, still running. Here now is my rant on one of the UN-necessary wedge issues in current politics:

            Of the 10 rights guaranteed to US citizens, by the US Constitution, how many, I ask myself, am I willing to surrender for security ??

            Apparently, not as many as others are willing to surrender for me.

            What strategies and tactics are these others willing to use to eviscerate the constitution? Are they any better than those employed by the NRA?


            In this graph, notice where Switzerland and Israel are found – nations with more firearms per persons than the US. I offer this graph because it suggests, in the context of this discussion, what is not being discussed, here or in the blogosphere.

            Inequality fuels violence

            “Unequal Rich Countries” a phrase in the title of the graph refers to th US, where many people can afford to buy a lot of illegal drugs – which are supplied by poor minority people taking huge risks, who can afford to buy illegal guns, (which costs more than legal guns) with their profits.

            Frequently ignored is the 2,700 human beings on average killed every month in/by automobiles, and the 5,800 injured every month; and how, by merely reducing the speed limit to 55 mph, these numbers come down significantly. Fuel consumption and carbon emissions are also slashed.

            Where are the anti-drivers? The media? Because statistically, you are 5 – 10 times more likely to be injured or killed by a car driver.

            Which is more random, some mentally unstable-friendless-person-with-gun, or a distracted-popular-texting-while-driving-young person?

            Violence is used to create inequality. It has always been part of the US “operating system”, or standard operating procedure. All of US benefits, and very few are willing to renounce speeding, going to violent movies, watching violent programs on TV. Let alone remove themselves from the “tit” of global-finance-capitalism-with-socialism-for corporations.

    • BackRowHeckler July 6, 2015 at 10:30 am #

      Smoky Joe, I know for a fact agricultural workers in Portugal have to be imported to work in the olive groves, as native Portugese themselves couldn’t be bothered, would rather spend their sitting in the sun at outdoor cafes in Lisbon, drinking port wine and soaking up the sun.

      Portugal might be next on the hit parade, and young Portugese citizens will have to learn how to do real physical work all over again.


      • Smoky Joe July 6, 2015 at 1:11 pm #

        You learn or you starve. Good news here: I found a Millennial-aged kid who LOVES the farm work. He helps me one day per week, and he has lost 25 pounds. His doctor just took him of pre-diabetic status.

        He had no nice cafe to frequent. His days were spent studying for college classes–he’s a good student–or consuming movies and video games.

        I like happy endings. I bet the Portuguese will get up from their admittedly great coffee when they need to sweat for a meal.

        • routersurfer July 13, 2015 at 12:15 am #

          No way Smoky Joe ! They will just pay for the JavaMonkey with farm wages ! I have the same vice. Back to the fields to earn my beans.

    • MisterDarling July 6, 2015 at 2:56 pm #

      “Ireland, Greece, Spain, and Portugal all can rebuild local-scale economies after a Collapse. Americans will have a rougher transition to doing things “by hand.” Many of the tattooed fatties would sooner die than do physical work.”- Smoky J.

      I agree that it’ll be easier to re-scale everyday life in the Old World, primarily because the towns of the Old World weren’t built within the past sixty years to ‘car-scale’.

      On the other hand, I’m not feeling so critical about the younger generation. Having been in the trenches with a bunch of them, I can vouch that there aren’t just clueless “tattoed fatties” out there. Some actually have a little spunk and moxie left… So that’s hopeful.


    • Frankiti July 6, 2015 at 5:17 pm #

      I’m not sure how the overly self-conscious and self-obsessed hipsters are going to fair when their mustaches are greased though sweat and not wax, when their beards are to ward off chills and not for ironic statement (i’m not a man but have a manly accessory) and wearing overall dungarees means you manage more than backyard chickens and a 6 x 12 garden box. Posers united.

      • BackRowHeckler July 6, 2015 at 9:12 pm #


        that’s one hilarious paragraph



    • wholy1 July 9, 2015 at 7:46 pm #

      Very insightful and well written!
      But I respectfully differ with your assessment of the “tattooed fatties”. My concern is what they will do to the infirm, ungrouped, unsecured/un-gunned BEFORE one of the prepared, firm, grouped, gunned takes them out.

  6. Paulo July 6, 2015 at 10:11 am #

    Our gardens are doing fine, despite the heat on the west coast. Maybe this is a good time to stock up on some more ammunition….just in case there is a ‘run’ and sources dry up. Always a good time to hit the atm for a little more cash. Maybe pick up some more popcorn.

    Hold on. (“psssst, don’t buy Chinese stocks”)

    • routersurfer July 13, 2015 at 12:24 am #

      Invest in loading ammo. By dies and tools even for guns you do not own. Slowly……very slowly stock up on powder & primers. Learn to shoot & load black powder firearms. Hey, you have a new skill and something to barter and sell to others. Archery is also a great skill set & tool set to have. Best of luck with the dry spell. Thanks for the stock tip !

  7. ozone July 6, 2015 at 10:16 am #

    Of course, this is from the narrow outlook of “the markets”, but here’s some speculation on extending the finance pretending in the EU:


    To noel bodie:
    Plan b for me too. We have the tortoise beetle after things here; they look like a tiny blob of bird poo. I’ve found native weeds to be very effective at confusing these critters, although it does reduce the growth of the taters somewhat by overshadowing. Meh, everything’s a trade-off.

  8. Florida Power July 6, 2015 at 10:19 am #

    Whilst hopefully avoiding obsequious sycophancy, I note with appreciation the word(s) of the week (who could forget usufruct?):
    scrim and scut.

    Makes my Harper’s Puzzle-tainted mind register scat, which can mean several things ranging from animal excrement to a form of jazz vocalization employing meaningless syllables improvising a single-note melodic line.

    Could be all the bankers have been scat-singing all along in a game of musical chairs, and the Greek chorus just lifted the needle off the record.

    • Sticks-of-TNT July 6, 2015 at 10:52 am #

      “Scrim and scut?”

      As my dearly departed dad used to say, “You do and you’ll clean it up!”


  9. orbit7er July 6, 2015 at 10:21 am #

    I am not sure the War and Auto addicted, rightwing crazed USA will be better off than Europe. Despite the usual problems with the banksters and plutocrats, in other ways Europe is ahead of the US in adapting to Peak Oil and Climate Change. All of Europe is ahead in renewable energy and already drives 3 times less than Americans. The US of course wastes $1 Trillion per year on endless Wars and despite their own bloated military budgets, no country in Europe comes anywhere close to the US waste on endless Wars. Europe has had a lower birthrate for a long time with more reasonable attitudes towards the realities of sexuality, birth control and abortion than the US Taliban fostered ignorance. France is expanding Green Transit LightRail to all cities of 100,000. Of course Amsterdam, the Netherlands and most of Europe is avidly promoting bicycling. As far as local production, my brother has lived off and on in Spain for years and so I have direct experience of Spanish life during my visits. In apartments outside Madrid, all with access to Green Transit, people still walked to the local butcher, greengrocer etc for their daily groceries for their meals. Although they had refrigerators they were dorm-sized 3 foot cubes as most people took a cart to get fresh greens and food to cook daily. Not drive to Walmart for gargantuan sized refrigerated food.

    • hineshammer July 6, 2015 at 6:59 pm #

      Not to nitpick here, orbit, but why express a quantity as being less than another by using a multiplier? “All of Europe… already drives 3 times less than Americans.” Wouldn’t it be clearer to express this value as a fraction. And what does the value represent? The number of drivers? the miles driven? If so, shouldn’t it be fewer rather than less?

      • Q. Shtik July 6, 2015 at 8:54 pm #

        Not to nitpick here, orbit, but why express a quantity as being less than another by using a multiplier? – hines


        Thanks for making this correction, Hines. It is exactly the kind of arithmetic error that wpa was infamous for back when he went under a different handle which Jim has forbidden be mentioned.

        I think we can be certain that Orbit meant “already drives 1/3rd as much as Americans.”

      • rlmrdl July 7, 2015 at 6:36 pm #


        Pisses me off when people do this, its meaningless in every way. When I have ONE times less than you I have nothing, that’s basic math. Three times less puts me a 2x something negative. Ack!

        • messianicdruid July 9, 2015 at 10:54 pm #

          Five out of four people have difficulties with fractions.

      • orbit7er July 9, 2015 at 9:53 am #

        Good point on the actual numbers:
        The US per capita miles driven is 15,000 miles per year but lately declining to 13,000 miles driven, In Europe it is 4,500 miles driven per capita. European car sales had been plummeting 27% as of last year’s figures but have probably stabilized due to the temporarily lower oil prices. Besides its far more extensive existing Green Transit Rail, lightrail, bicycling and walkable communities Western Europe is taking major steps to go further with bicycling, the London congestion pricing and the ground-breaking announcement a few months ago by Paris Mayor seeking to ban
        private passenger cars altogether in downtown Paris.
        So we can only expect Europe to make further gains in Green Transit saving major oil/fossil fuel consumption and dependency.

  10. hugho July 6, 2015 at 10:21 am #

    Trenchant post, Jim. Good overview as always and these recent events must be more grist for your Novel mill. The debt train operating worldwide may soon derail completely and the diminishing returns of xs complexity should be readily apparent to more folks if they bother to notice. The arrogance of the Troika has been stunning especially with the Germans who demand repayment for debt that can’t be repaid. The world demanded repayment from the Germans after the last 2 world wars and that didn’t happen and writing off Germany’s debt after the last war allowed them to bounce back with a vengeance. The irony of demanding unrepayable debt from the Greeks is then not poignant? Debt, dissolution and deleveraging is probably in everyone’s future. Europe looks certain to Balkcanize and deindustrialize in the near future especially those with minimal domestic energy supplies like Spain. It is high time the small countries push back against the dictators and technocrats in Brussels. We will probably see a return to a more diverse, localized and interesting Europe. Greece might even see a return to a City State structure but the societies of Europe are sure to change in the near future.

    • DrTomSchmidt July 6, 2015 at 11:49 am #

      Um, The Germans were NOT forgiven their WW1 Debt, and just paid it off in 2010. As the linked article notes there were no reparations imposed after WW2 (except by the Soviets, who dismantled factories in their zone to move east), as the
      Allies took the more sensible approach of punishing the leaders and not the people.

      Imagine if the penalty for launching a losing war was death by hanging for EVERY leader? I could certainly get behind that.

      • davidreese2 July 6, 2015 at 11:56 am #

        Not only did the Germans not pay reparations to the Allies following WWII, they got the Marshall Plan!

        Today’s Germans should give back to the rest of Europe in a similar fashion. The Germans should not only forgive the debt, they should give the poorer countries of Europe a Marshall Plan.

        • abbybwood July 6, 2015 at 4:18 pm #

          I have a great idea!

          Why not just flip the board over, scatter all the money in the world (ALL of it), gather it all together in one place then start the game over by giving everyone his/her equal amount!

          Imagine all the starving, dying seven year olds on Earth suddenly coming into $10,000 (or more??)

          Maybe the next time “the game” is played humanity will be wiser and more sleazy politicians and bankers’ heads will roll and we won’t find ourselves in this world-wide mess again where through deviousness and criminality the wealthiest one-percent in the world who have all “the game” money squirreled away in the Caymans and elsewhere and who have created this financial mess will find that having their noses cut off is a great deterrent to future shenanigans!

          The “new” game will have to have “new” rules of course. Like no illegal wars to dominate the planet, quality healthcare and birth control for all, a focus on infrastructure development and housing for all which would include the planet being connected with state of the art rail lines and an emphasis on “local” production of food.

          Perhaps living in the future with future generations and sustainability in mind would be a better way to “manage” this planet and to honor the true magic and sanctity of “life”.

          Just sayin’.

          • DrTomSchmidt July 6, 2015 at 6:41 pm #

            You gonna flip the cultural values and physical Infrastructure too? Cuz if you don’t, you’ll have the same situation in about a year.

          • messianicdruid July 9, 2015 at 11:15 pm #

            All wealth comes from the land. Divide all the land among each family according to size (and productivity of the land), burn all the debt (money). Quit feeding the parasites.

        • DrTomSchmidt July 6, 2015 at 6:37 pm #

          Hmmm… Pay back the Marshall Plan? Set up a Marshall Plan? Ask and ye shall receive…


          But the Germans aren’t going to get their money back from Greece. Just like we wouldn’t give back their gold stored in New York. Sucks to be them. Maybe they’ll cosy up to Putin so they can get a real partner and nuclear umbrella. Until then, they can expect to “assume the position.”

          • routersurfer July 13, 2015 at 12:26 am #

            Sad but true statement Dr.

        • islander800 July 6, 2015 at 7:40 pm #

          I don’t think “paying it forward” is in the German language. The irony is truly breathtaking.

          For a people who like to boast that they will “never forget” how they screwed up big-time, they seem to have a short memory when it comes to forgiveness. Never-ending imposed austerity and punishment gave us Hitler. The Marshall Plan gave us the present powerhouse of Europe.

          There really must be something in the Bratwurst.

        • orbit7er July 9, 2015 at 11:25 am #

          Yanis Varoufakis has a couple excellent presentations and analyses of the basic problem with World currency surpluses and also the Greek situation vis a vis their own plutocrats and German and European private banksters.


          Analyzes World surplus management and major changes since WW II.

          Still trying to find his excellent presentation in Frankfurt Germany to the banksters…

          • Q. Shtik July 9, 2015 at 11:43 am #

            Yanis Varoufakis has a couple excellent presentations


            There was hardly a mention in the media of Varoufakis’s reason for resigning his position as Minister of Finance. Probably one of those “to spend more time with his family” deals which translated means his ass was fired.

          • Yuri Sowryteski July 9, 2015 at 11:21 pm #

            Reading this link puts me in mind of a recent conversation the evening of homecoming day in the little town (10,000) I live in. A retired medical insurance co. rep. who had “done well” (enough to have investments etc.) rejected my suggestion that saving the banks did not solve the problems of 2008, that the banks should not have been rescued. I pointed to Iceland. He replied they are smaller than us, you can’t apply the same principles. His investments would have disappeared. But Iceland is now growing, and the PEOPLE CONTROL THE GOVERNMENT.

            Whereas, since we are going into a worse mess, and the banks still own the government, he’s going to loose his investments and his rights. Leaving his children in the worse possible position: peasants.

    • DrTomSchmidt July 6, 2015 at 11:50 am #

      So you can see why they might want others to pay their debts. In this case, you cannot get blood from a stone.

  11. BackRowHeckler July 6, 2015 at 10:23 am #

    Good points, Jim.

    One observation, tho: tattoos, as a cultural phenomena, appears to be fading, around these parts anyway. Within the past year 2 pretty prominent tattoo shops have closed up, and I simply see fewer young people walking around ‘inked up’. Also, I have heard youngsters who are growing a little older, perhaps in their 30s, express regret about the tattoos they got in their 20s. I think the day is approaching in the US when tattoos once again return to the provenance of sailors and criminals, not college coeds and clerks who work in convenience stores.


    • teejay July 6, 2015 at 11:02 am #

      I dunno brh,

      I nearly snorted java through the nostrils and on to the keyboard at Jim’s opening line in this weeks missive (vis a vis ‘ American folks clogging the tattoo parlors).

      On a drive north just last night from visiting my aging Mom in Central Florida I pulled off the interstate to grab a bite and wended my way to the downtown ‘central district’ of Ocala. The largest contingent of general ‘loitering’ in the district was all in and about a local ink parlor…by far. Walking by, and asking for some local scoop on where to eat, I took in the fact that they were all nice enough people, and covered the spectrum of 20’s thru 40’s, male and female, and to a person were clearly vested in the ink ‘culture’. I think it’s become our age equivalent to the drive-in restaurant of the 50’s, a la American Graffiti. I’ve witnessed, as well on multiple occasions, the positive reinforcement of one ink stained subject admiring anothers ‘flesh art’, and can see where it begets ongoing investment in the process.

      Anyway, I continued home with a number of teasing questions to ponder on the drive. Like, why does 2.58/gallon gas seem like such a “bargain” right now? Why do I, and my siblings, live so far away from our surviving parent in her time of need? Why would somebody spend 175 dollars on another image of a skull on their forearm instead of buying a ten ounce bar of silver?

      We’ve become an interesting species in our conduct and motivations…

      • MisterDarling July 6, 2015 at 2:59 pm #

        “Why would somebody spend 175 dollars on another image of a skull on their forearm instead of buying a ten ounce bar of silver?”-tee’j.

        $175/10oz? I like that price.


        • teejay July 6, 2015 at 3:24 pm #

          Absolutely Mister D, that’s the going price, at least here in the USA. I know, it seems ridiculously low for ten ounces of ag, and I doubt that in another 6 months it will be available at anything close to this, but right NOW, all day long, in any precious metal storefront or online, it can be had. Hard to believe…

        • LeoH July 7, 2015 at 12:55 pm #

          What about the fools who buy their coffee at Starbucks? I’ve met a lot of tatoo’d people who have more functioning brain cells and critical thought processes than the super cool in line at SB. Who pays this kind of money for a cup of coffee?

    • stelmosfire July 6, 2015 at 11:08 am #

      Hey BRH, My son and some his friends were here this weekend, and the ones WITHOUT tats, were proud of it! Tats are becoming old. I got one in ’78 and am gonna get it changed. On a side note , I didni’t have any fireworks this year so the crew in the back yard ripped about 50 rounds from the .357 into the berm.

    • elysianfield July 6, 2015 at 7:40 pm #

      Yes. Reminds me what David Stockman wrote in his book “The Great Deconstruction”…”Get a hair cut, wear clean clothes and present yourself properly looking for a job…if you have tattoos on your arms, wear a long sleeve shirt…if you have tattoos on your face…your screwed.”

      • Q. Shtik July 6, 2015 at 9:21 pm #

        if you have tattoos on your face…your screwed.”


        Unless you’re interviewing for a Harley mechanic job, in which case it might work in your favor.

      • hineshammer July 8, 2015 at 8:35 am #

        “…your screwed.”

        I doubt Stockman’s grammar was that bad.

        • elysianfield July 8, 2015 at 10:56 am #

          No, “you’re”, of course.

    • wholy1 July 9, 2015 at 7:50 pm #

      perhaps a shrinking “discretionary income” issue?

  12. peakfuture July 6, 2015 at 10:29 am #

    So, the various smaller countries around the world begin their attack run as they navigate through the financial Death-Star trench to the final destruction of the monetary system.

    It will be really interesting to see how Greece does going forward. They aren’t Iceland (with lots of cheap energy), but at least the climate isn’t horrible. Italy and Spain aren’t far behind. What happens in places like New England, upstate New York will be far more interesting, as the climate (even as things warm up) is a bit different than those sunny and warm climes.

    It is one thing to read JHK’s description of the tattooed and obese; it is another to see it – just drove through upstate NY. Whew. A World Made By Hand doesn’t seem to far fetched.

    • Greg Knepp July 6, 2015 at 11:50 am #

      ‘…places like New England, upstate New York…even as things warm up…”

      Maybe yes, maybe no. In fact, for the last three years there has existed a ‘Triangle of Cool’* stretching from Chicago to Maine and down much of the Atlantic coast, bottoming out somewhere in the Atlanta vicinity. This area appears on weather maps as shades of light-to-medium blue (in contrast to most of the rest of the world which is colored in alarming yellows, oranges and reds – all indicating various degrees of global warming).

      Supposedly it’s all about weird jet stream bullshit and the like; I really don’t understand it. What I do understand, though, is that I live right at the center of the Triangle of Cool and can attest to the fact that summers have been much cooler than normal and winters have been downright bone-chilling! Rain has been soaking – even destructive, crops are behind schedule, and an unspoken air of anxiety pervades all. People aren’t accustomed to wearing sweaters in July…but they are becoming so.


  13. peakfuture July 6, 2015 at 10:30 am #

    “too far fetched”, that is.

  14. LLPete July 6, 2015 at 10:41 am #

    JHK, don’t forget about sports in our culture of spectator celebrity circuses. The average MLB salary is $4.25 million and you hear the commentators casually talk about how this player or that makes north of $25 million a year. I knew they made a lot of money but WTF! I can’t be a participant to this shit and won’t watch it anymore.

    • Beryl of Oyl July 6, 2015 at 12:24 pm #

      I can’t deal with the already long game coming to a halt while people not even on the field make decisions.
      I realized that the root of the problem is money. So what if an umpire makes a wrong call now and then? Is it worth ruining the sport over? To some people, yes, but they aren’t the fans.

  15. marcus1 July 6, 2015 at 10:48 am #

    Funny, you look out over the trends in the landscape and might come to exactly opposite conclusion:

    The Chinese are the most successful growth economy in the world–highly centralized.

    The security state in the US funnels all communications through a spy agency–centralized.

    The US military fights war from centralized remote “war rooms.”

    The dominant use of US military power as diplomacy. Military by definition is centralized.

    Walmart may have reached their apex but got to the largest retailer in the world by becoming the largest shipper and master of inventory control–centralization. After the apex is not necessarily collapse.

    And when the financial collapse happens what will be the response? Centralized control and shipment of supplies by the central government.

    When you want to prognosticate ask yourself what benefits the 0.1% richest and you’ll see the future. And that regime won’t soon end.

    • Yuri Sowryteski July 9, 2015 at 11:47 pm #

      You’re correct, as long as present trends continue, as long as the conditions causing the present trends obtain, the only change in the regime will be the number will be 0.01%.

      Good luck with that.

  16. saharasergei July 6, 2015 at 10:59 am #

    The USA doesn’t seem to care about Greece; we’re too busy making racist comments about the Japanese after the women’s soccer team beat Japan for the Cup. Meanwhile, America’s biggest effort to do something about racism and gun violence in the wake of Charleston is to stop showing reruns of “The Dukes of Hazzard” because Bo and Luke painted a rebel flag on the roof of their car. Though I could think of many, far better reasons to stop showing “Dukes of Hazzard” reruns. Anyway, shouldn’t the Confederate flag have been retired for good years ago – like, say, in 1865?

  17. 99 cent nation July 6, 2015 at 10:59 am #

    ” the disease of terminal excessive complexity.” That’s good really good. At least you can keep your sense of humour about all this crap going on made worse by complete idiots in charge.

  18. FincaInTheMountains July 6, 2015 at 11:18 am #

    Peculiarities of American Higher Education

    It turns out that four previous prime minister of Greece – whose work led Greece to the present financial disaster – were educated in the United States:

    2004 – 2009: Kostas Karamanlis, Tufts University, Massachusetts, USA

    2009 – 2011: George Papandreou, Harvard University, Massachusetts, USA

    2011 – 2012: Lucas Papademos, MIT, Massachusetts, USA

    2012 – 2015: Antonis Samaras, Harvard University, Massachusetts, USA

    Is that something particularly wrong with the State of Massachusetts, or just a general problem? Are you sure it should be worth that much in tuition fees?

    • Beryl of Oyl July 6, 2015 at 12:19 pm #

      People still listen to the same “experts” who didn’t see the big collapse coming. Go figure.

    • abbybwood July 6, 2015 at 4:26 pm #

      I have a great idea!

      Why not just flip the board over, scatter all the money in the world (ALL of it), gather it all together in one place then start the game over by giving everyone his/her equal amount!

      Imagine all the starving, dying seven year olds on Earth suddenly coming into $10,000 (or more??)

      Maybe the next time “the game” is played humanity will be wiser and more sleazy politicians and bankers’ heads will roll and we won’t find ourselves in this world-wide mess again where through deviousness and criminality the wealthiest one-percent in the world who have all “the game” money squirreled away in the Caymans and elsewhere and who have created this financial mess will find that having their noses cut off is a great deterrent to future shenanigans!

      The “new” game will have to have “new” rules of course. Like no illegal wars to dominate the planet, quality healthcare and birth control for all, a focus on infrastructure development and housing for all which would include the planet being connected with state of the art rail lines and an emphasis on “local” production of food.

      Perhaps living in the future with future generations and sustainability in mind would be a better way to “manage” this planet and to honor the true magic and sanctity of “life”.

      Just sayin’.

  19. esperanto41 July 6, 2015 at 11:26 am #

    Remember Voorhis?

    Apart from Greece et al, I simply cannot fathom the unlimited financial stupidity in Puerto Rico: how in heaven’s name could anyone wrack up a $72 billion debt? The borrower, the lenders? Isn’t there even a soupçon of common sense to be had? Is the notion of “pay as you go” a quaint anachronism?

    Some 50 years ago I had read a 1943 book by ultraliberal Congressman Jerry Voorhis (Nixon’s first roadkill on the way to the top), Out of Debt, Out of Danger: Proposals for War Finance and Tomorrow’s Money, inter alia an attack on the Federal Reserve (the Fed never seemed like a good idea to me). The book seemed perfectly reasonable; and giving it a quick Google, I see it has been breathlessly reprinted by some right-wing outfit: http://americanfreepress.net/Issue_32_AFP_Insert.pdf, while another paperback reprint is available from Amazon or 1¢ + $3.39 shiping
    as well as several other editions in recent years.

    Here is a synopsis from one:

    In the pages of this amazing study, Voorhis reviews the history of the Fed and how it impacts upon American life to the detriment of this country’s farmers, workers and small businessmen. According to Voorhis, “The Fed does not act as a government instrumentality of the nation, nor are its policies and practices determined with the welfare of the nation in mind. Instead of that, the banks and bankers run the Fed and run it for the benefit of the financial community in almost every respect. Money creation, is the greatest economic power known to man. That power ought always to be exercised in the interest of all the people, never for the sake of private gain or a privileged few. The banks, commercial banks and the Federal Reserve, create all the money of this nation, and the nation and its people pay interest on every dollar of that newly created money. This means that private banks exercise un-Constitutionally, immorally and ridiculously the power to tax the people. For every newly created dollar dilutes to some extent the value of every other dollar already in circulation. A Federal Reserve System brought under control by the elected officials of the United States (1913) could be run in the public interest instead of in that of the money-lending community as is now the case.”

    • Beryl of Oyl July 6, 2015 at 12:15 pm #

      Interesting, that this was out there back then.

    • malthuss July 6, 2015 at 12:31 pm #

      ‘I simply cannot fathom the unlimited financial stupidity in Puerto Rico: how in heaven’s name could anyone wrack up a $72 billion debt?’

      Your comment is as funny as it is dumb.
      Some borrow w no intention of repayment.

      There is an amazing chart at a You Tube channel showing Debt and how PR is 40x higher than other places.

      I know JK does not like links to movies BUT this one is so informative that I will ‘break the rule’.
      at 13 minutes, see chart,


      • seawolf77 July 7, 2015 at 9:57 am #

        Peter Schiff is touting Puerto Rico as a tax haven for the wealthy. Governments don’t run on air.

      • orbit7er July 9, 2015 at 1:50 pm #

        Stefan Molyneux is simply wrong that governments do not create wealth or productive capacities. In fact since Benjamin Franklin founded it and it supported the American Revolutionary Committees of Correspondence, the US Post Office successfully delivers packages for cheaper than private Corporations. Health clinics provide free vaccines and public health which benefits everyone
        preventing plagues and disease outbreaks.
        Public libraries provide the same books as a Barnes & Noble but shares them instead of insisting on privatized read once profits.
        Public transit provides transit but for far cheaper than privatized Auto Addiction which costs $9300 just for a car versus $1600 a year for a Metro pass in NYC.
        We need MORE public shared schools, parks, libraries and Main Street squares not privatized excessive consumption for Corporate Capitalist profits…

        • messianicdruid July 9, 2015 at 11:31 pm #

          There is no longer a US Post Office. It was replaced with the US Postal Service, because it literally took an act of Congress to raise the postage rates.

    • zekesdad July 6, 2015 at 12:40 pm #

      It seems to me that the problem with the Fed is that it has been politicized. Theoretically, dollar creation should not dilute the value of dollars in circulation if there is a corresponding rise in GDP. If the economy grows 5% and the money supply also grows 5%, that shouldn’t be a problem. In the past dollars backed by gold kept money creators honest. If the economy shrinks the supply of money should also. Unfortunately the Fed is trying to take the place of our elected officials who have given us a moribund economy, and refuse to make the necessary changes in spending, taxation, and regulations to get us back on track.

  20. Beryl of Oyl July 6, 2015 at 12:13 pm #

    Harley Davidsons aren’t cool any more.
    What will become of the people with the Confederate flag tattoos?

    • Q. Shtik July 6, 2015 at 12:27 pm #

      Probably they will be put to death.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 6, 2015 at 2:09 pm #

      Or have the offending area removed, voluntarily or otherwise.

      • Ishabaka July 6, 2015 at 7:30 pm #

        Because getting rid of all Confederate flags guarantees no evil, unstable young White man will ever again commit mass murder.

    • uslabor July 6, 2015 at 5:56 pm #

      What a silly thing to say. Of course Harley Davidsons are still cool.

  21. Q. Shtik July 6, 2015 at 12:14 pm #

    I looked up from my breakfast dish at the muted TV. On-screen was one of those low-life courtroom shows like Judge Judy only the judge in this one was male.

    The camera was on an otherwise totally ordinary looking woman of about 40 years (the defendant, perhaps). She wore a scoop neck dress and was tatted to a fare-thee-well from the visible portion of her shoulders/clavicles to halfway up her neck. I tried to lip-read the judge but couldn’t so instead I imagined two possible lines of dialog emanating from his mouth:

    1. “I just want to mention, Ms Smith, how INTERESTING a person you are with those neck tatts than you would be without them … sarcasm off.”

    2. “Well, Ms Smith, besides this issue of your non-payment of rent… a quick aside………. WHATEVER the **FUCK** POSSESSED YOU TO GET THOSE HORRIBLE TATTOS?!?”

    • Beryl of Oyl July 6, 2015 at 12:17 pm #

      They help make her memorable for her turn in the spotlight.

    • elysianfield July 12, 2015 at 4:46 pm #

      I…I was on a segment of Judge Judy once. Interesting experience.

  22. sooty July 6, 2015 at 12:20 pm #

    My mom’s side of the family is Greek. In my pre-Euro visits there, people were waiting several years to get a phone, houses were small, etc. Post-Euro, everyone had cell phones and cars, looked much more glam, people were building bigger houses, lots of folks had beach houses as well.

    Most Greeks over 35 can recall a much more modest culture, even if they don’t want to. A large portion of them still have a family farm in a village somewhere with one branch of the family still working it–unlike the US, where farmers sold out to subdivisions. They also have a much stronger family ethic, which includes extended family, even though they bicker a lot and never stop talking. Underneath the soft, now cracked finish acquired while Eurozoned, the Greeks are tough as nails–I’m sure not counting them out.

    • Q. Shtik July 6, 2015 at 12:34 pm #

      Post-Euro, everyone had cell phones and cars, looked much more glam, people were building bigger houses, lots of folks had beach houses as well. – sooty


      Yeah, no question, you can live on a much higher plane when you have lots of other people’s money to spend.

      • pequiste July 6, 2015 at 1:17 pm #

        Who gives a damn about a stupid “smart” phone or a stinking BMW lease.

        When you have so much of the people’s and government’s money — like the Big Boy Banksters do — its not a plane: it’s likely a Cessna Citation or even a full sized Boeing 737. ALso don’t forget the citadel in Switzerland or Colorado and a nice 30 meter vessel plying the azure somewhere in the tranquil Caribbean.

        That’s how the greasy scumbag plutocrats do it man. They will most likely do just fine when this econodrama reaches its denoument. It’s you and I who are screwed.

        • islander800 July 6, 2015 at 9:00 pm #

          The current international bankster criminal syndicate makes the mafia look like sidewalk cool-aid salesmen.

          By crying “too big to fail”, they’ve extorted trillions from citizens by way of our bought-off politicians, and now, we have no choice: continue to support their extortion and CDS and CDO casino gambles – many earning handsome commissions on bets of failure of such enterprises as Greece – funded by….us….(you didn’t think those taxpayer bailouts went into the real economy, did you?) or watch the whole thing swirl down the drain.

          Too big to fail? Too big to prosecute, and much, much too late, too big to exist.

  23. malthuss July 6, 2015 at 12:34 pm #

    Ireland suffered over building and suburbanization as has UK and other places.
    Have housing prices collapsed –yet?

    Where I am [in the USA] home prices and rentals are insane.

  24. wpa--ccc July 6, 2015 at 12:36 pm #

    “Most Greeks over 35 can recall a much more modest culture, even if they don’t want to.” — sooty

    “Look at the history of national debt: Great Britain, Germany, and France were all once in the situation of today’s Greece, and in fact had been far more indebted. The first lesson that we can take from the history of government debt is that we are not facing a brand new problem.

    Germany has “no standing” to lecture other nations about debt repayment, having never paid back its own debts after both World Wars.

    However, it has frequently made other nations pay up, such as after the Franco-Prussian War of 1870, when it demanded massive reparations from France and indeed received them. The French state suffered for decades under this debt. The history of public debt is full of irony. It rarely follows our ideas of order and justice.

    After large crises that created huge debt loads, at some point people need to look toward the future. We cannot demand that new generations must pay for decades for the mistakes of their parents. The Greeks have, without a doubt, made big mistakes. Until 2009, the government in Athens forged its books. But despite this, the younger generation of Greeks carries no more responsibility for the mistakes of its elders than the younger generation of Germans did in the 1950s and 1960s. We need to look ahead. Europe was founded on debt forgiveness and investment in the future. Not on the idea of endless penance. We need to remember this.

    Those who want to chase Greece out of the Eurozone today will end up on the trash heap of history.” — Thomas Piketty

    • Janos Skorenzy July 6, 2015 at 2:05 pm #

      Germany is a conquered land – US Troops have yet to leave it or the rest of Western Europe. They have “voluntarily” given Israel massive amounts of money and continue to do so.

      No reparations? For the sin of being White and Western, Europe has been “volunteered” by its Americanized Elite to accept tens of millions fast breeding Muslims and Black Africans. In other words, it is committing suicide.

  25. FincaInTheMountains July 6, 2015 at 12:37 pm #

    BBC: The benchmark Shanghai Composite surged as much as 8% on Monday morning following a weekend of emergency meetings and more attempts to correct the volatility. It finished the trading day up 2.4%.

    European money these time prefer China to US “safe heaven”?

  26. FincaInTheMountains July 6, 2015 at 12:44 pm #

    Bloomberg gloats: Greeks Have Voted, Now Kick Them Out


    Well, there is something to gloat about. The American policy of not-so-controlled chaos successfully extended to European Union.


    • MisterDarling July 6, 2015 at 2:49 pm #


      Yes indeedy. They are just so brilliant, aren’t they?


  27. FincaInTheMountains July 6, 2015 at 1:13 pm #

    40 thousand Israeli Residents decided to return to Crimea and asked Putin to grant them Russian citizenship

    Russian President Vladimir Putin was asked to provide 40 thousand Israeli repatriates who left Crimea for permanent residence in Israel after the collapse of the Soviet Union with Russian citizenship.


    • Janos Skorenzy July 6, 2015 at 3:00 pm #

      He’s crazy if he allows that since they’re likely all ex-IDF and will become fighters for NATO Ukraine.

      • FincaInTheMountains July 6, 2015 at 3:12 pm #

        Janos, now you are regressing into conspiracy theories: they are families with children and the real men will protect their homes, not 4-letter bad word.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 6, 2015 at 3:48 pm #

          Ok, but surely you are not denying that more than a thousand Israeli military “advisors” were helping the Georgians when they invaded Russian territory a couple of years ago?

          There’s no reason to be trustful here – and every reason to distrust. Why not send them to the Jewish region in Siberia – which you admit is badly under-populated?

        • uslabor July 6, 2015 at 6:25 pm #

          “regressing into conspiracy theories”

          As if Big Government or Big Business don’t act in private to further their agenda.

          What about the Color Revolution in Ukraine in February 2014?
          MSM would have you believe it was a spontaneous act of a people upset with the corruption of their government. But those that have been paying attention know it was an act carried out by the US government to overthrow the democratically elected president of Ukraine to insert our toad Porshenko.

          Many Americans consider Peak Oil a conspiracy theory. Many would consider JHK a conspiracy theorist.

          • messianicdruid July 9, 2015 at 11:41 pm #

            This is better than a coincidence theorist.

  28. Buck Stud July 6, 2015 at 1:23 pm #

    Just when I thought “interest rate euchres, secret arbitrages, market manipulation monkeyshines” couldn’t be topped, our hilariously loquacious host punctuates this comedic barrage with “hornswoggles”!

    LOL 🙂

  29. fodase July 6, 2015 at 1:24 pm #

    Naturally, Greece’s official default, a.k.a. Oxi, will not spell the end of the world, or even the end of the Eurozone.

    Greece will be given softer terms to repay its debts, that’s all. Greece’s creditors will accept much slower repayments, rather than nothing.

    This has naturally all been worked out behind the scenes. If it hadn’t, Greece’s leaders would never have held the referendum, because the country would not have had any way of paying for anything.

    So,,,,,,softer terms ahead for Greece. Greece remains in the Eurozone.

    Watch Greece suddenly rebound much faster now that it will get much more lenient repayment terms. The financial press will be caught by surprise, naturally.

    Magazine covers will show the ‘surprising Greece miracle’….it’s generally like this, things taking the opposite tack to what most people imagine.

    Greeks are hard workers, highly intelligent, have very coherent families – in short, they are a strong, viable nation and will continue to be so, regardless of events.

    We’re with ya, Hellenites.

    I’d live in Greece anyday over Brazil.


    PS – Wind power was Spain’s top source of electricity in 2013

    • Janos Skorenzy July 6, 2015 at 2:13 pm #

      Yes they are too frightened to kick them out lest they prosper and lead other nations to leave also. So let the word go out: borrow to your heart’s content and mock them to make you pay. As Marie LePen said, What are they going to do, invade?

    • Q. Shtik July 6, 2015 at 2:54 pm #

      I’d live in Greece anyday over Brazil.


      What happened to all that drinking beer and eating great slabs of beef in the warm evenings with your neighbors?

      • Janos Skorenzy July 6, 2015 at 3:02 pm #

        I’m wondering the same thing. Too many Blacks maybe? Greece is struggling with its own African invasion now too. The only answer is the Golden Dawn who will put a swift end to such shenanigans.

  30. pequiste July 6, 2015 at 1:35 pm #

    As much as I think the Greek vote against austerity is a strong statement along the lines of “Molo labe” uttered by Leonidas at Thermopylae; the Troika and Eurocrats will not go after their loans: they know there is no repayment and it’s the end of the sharking to Greece.

    The upshot of all of this, is as JHK mentions, doesn’t bode well for the central Eurounion authorities, and the other debt-burdened nations who would love to have their cake and eat it too: repudiation of the debt while retaining membership in monetary and political union.

    Ain’t gonna happen.

    Besides, the Greek situation, while slippery and heading into a septic tank of toxicity, is not the “black swan” everyone is looking for. The black swan comes out of nowhere, unexpectedly, and sets off a powder magazines worth of resentment, hate, envy, greed in a paroxym of violence that will set the new standard for human stupidity in the 21st century.

    Sort of like the tatted ones who think of their “body art” as investments.

  31. MisterDarling July 6, 2015 at 2:42 pm #

    The witty lines are coming faster and ‘furiouser’, staying in step with the pace of History. I must admit I like JHK’s tune when his dander is slightly up:

    “The German’s are just pissing into the wind on that one, a hazardous business for a nation of beer drinkers.”-J H K.

    Indeed. The long foretold, mathematically inevitable unravel proceeds. Surprised Anyone? No? Okay, let’s move along to *this* item:


    With India and Pakistan now onboard (the two riskiest flies in the Eurasia’s strategic security ointment) the SCO-Aligned Nations have everything they need to secure their Realm: A new ‘silk-road’ oriented Eurasian Economic Union. *Cool Beans*, if you ask me.

    In the newer, smaller, regional-power-centric era, the EEU will be the kids with the most toys. . . Hurray for them.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 6, 2015 at 3:15 pm #

      You would like Furiousa in the new Mad Max movie. She’s the hero (not heroine) and poor Max is just another white male.

      • MisterDarling July 7, 2015 at 1:05 am #

        Haven’t seen it. Have no plans to. By the way, W T F has this got to do with the price of tacos in Tijuana, crazy-boy?


        • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 2:54 pm #

          You said furiouser and plus you a liberal who likes “strong” women and……

  32. Q. Shtik July 6, 2015 at 2:48 pm #

    Following up on a question I asked last week:

    The Greek prime minister’s name is pronounced;

    ah-LEHK-sees SEEP-rahs

    • FincaInTheMountains July 6, 2015 at 2:56 pm #

      Mr.Q, are you waiting for someone to finally give you a long awaited answer – who gives a ….. —, or someping?

      • Q. Shtik July 6, 2015 at 3:17 pm #

        Mr.Q, are you waiting for someone to finally give you a long awaited answer – who gives a ….. —, or someping?


        I took no response as a polite way of saying ‘who gives a shit.’

    • Janos Skorenzy July 6, 2015 at 3:13 pm #

      Ah, very interesting….

      Meanwhile I’m still waiting for Mr Spock here to acknowledge my answer to his question why a government can’t be run like a business.

      • Q. Shtik July 6, 2015 at 5:15 pm #

        I’m not going to go back and read what you wrote last week and then try to give you a nuanced response but, suffice to say that whether a household, a town, a state, a nation, or a business, outgo should not exceed income over a given time period such as a year.

        Money should not be loaned nor borrowed that doesn’t have a 99.9% likelihood of being repaid.

        Shakespeare goes farther than me. He says “Neither a borrower nor a lender be.”

        Mr Spock

        • Janos Skorenzy July 6, 2015 at 6:58 pm #

          Jefferson said something similar – but from the other end: The only people who should lend money are those who actually have it. Yet you continue to focus on individuals as if they are the main problem. You put on your “look over” specs and go into your Ben Franklin, Poor Richard Almanac trip.

          The problem is predatory lending that encourages the fools – and lower races – to borrow money they will never be able to pay back or never intend to pay back.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 12:32 am #

          He (You) answers a question about public fiscal policy by talking about personal responsibility on the part of private citizens. And why not? Corporations are just big people and once they own the Government, they’ll still have to pay their taxes too – just like anyone else! To themselves!

          Pretty Smooth. Would you consider coming out of retirement? There may be a position opening up in the Mongolian National Bank in Ulan Bator. Just brush up on your remedial Mongolian. A translator app will be provided for you to make press releases, little homilies about spending less than you earn and the pride of yak dung as fuel.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 12:56 am #

            pride of yak dung? Of course I meant to say price but might not pride have some hidden meaning that should be discerned? The people there do like their yaks and may well be proud of their ability to use feces as fuel. Perhaps we should look into this as well? If we became vegetarians, perhaps we could use our own?

          • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 10:07 am #

            Government cannot be run as a business because the very purpose of government is to provide services for the common good.

            I am a vegetarian!

      • LeoH July 7, 2015 at 1:02 pm #

        Not possible because there is no profit or balance the books motive but a desire to control people with bullshit so the world can be a better place….

        • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 4:49 pm #

          There’s the Problem: citizens need to control the government, not vica versa.

          • wholy1 July 9, 2015 at 7:57 pm #

            Respectfully refute your: “Government cannot be run as a business”, unless you disagree that the “United Snakes Corp, headquartered in the special territory of Washington D[e]C[eit] is not a ‘business”.

  33. FincaInTheMountains July 6, 2015 at 2:50 pm #

    How FED screwed over the European suckers with “cheap” dollar liquidity

    Six years ago, the European hole was plugged with loans from the United States. Cheap freshly minted dollars from the FED QE program under exchange rate of 1.5 – 1.6 USD/EURO. Now is the day to pay back at the rate of 1.1 USD/EURO.

    The interest rate all of a sudden does not look that cheap anymore.

  34. Janos Skorenzy July 6, 2015 at 2:58 pm #

    Just write a check for the total amount owed and let the International Bankers find someone to cash it for them. Problem solved. They created the money out of nothing so let them be paid back with imaginary money – and not with the sweat and blood of the People of the World.

    This is the position of National Socialism.

    • FincaInTheMountains July 6, 2015 at 3:01 pm #

      I heard a better idea. To mint a 20-trillion dollar copper coin and pay down the US debt. Problem solved.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 6, 2015 at 3:06 pm #

        No copper is real value so that would be real money. You are missing the point. Are you this dense or just pretending to be? You heard the joke, didn’t get it, but laughed for the wrong reason – your own.

        You can’t wake up someone pretending to be asleep. Now answer my post about why Putin should allow an Israeli army to enter the Crimea.

  35. Peter Friesen July 6, 2015 at 3:20 pm #

    The vote was over whether to accept EU’s conditions on the extension of more credit. The paradox was and is: (1) governments borrow against the productivity of their economy and (2) the EU’s conditions were economically stifling. The EU may well be unable to address the problems arising from the localization of economic productivity. It’s not that they are changing back to something–from centralized to decentralized economies. Rather, it is the failure to make a practical shift to a centralized currency without managing localized economic stress. You can’t manage local economies in depression through finance. The intervention tends to kill the patient. It seems we are learning a lot now about how local and central controls are related.

    • Yuri Sowryteski July 10, 2015 at 12:36 am #

      Wow, finally a comment from someone not smoking whatever it is Janos and Finca are smoking way too much of.

      Thanks Peter!

      I can see the difference in scale as you apply it to current Greek affairs. I’ve seen this in other hierarchical structures, and in what Gregory Bateson call “levels of logic” in his book “Mind and Nature, a Necessary Unity”. I believe this phenomena applies to all nations over 100,000 people. (or I could just say all nations). Also to corporations. In a way it’s hard to take all of this seriously – I mean, what do you expect people?

  36. wpa--ccc July 6, 2015 at 3:56 pm #

    not the “black swan” everyone is looking for.


    You cannot look for a black swan. By definition, isn’t a black swan event one that takes you by surprise, when you are unawares?

    • K-Dog July 6, 2015 at 10:53 pm #

      You are quite right and I share the consternation you and everyone else who has read Nassim Taleb feels about this application of that phrase here. There is nothing mysterious or hard to understand about what is happening in Greece. Greece is suffering the consequences of humanity living like idiots, nothing more. It is a white duck of a swan, a bird as common as the greed of men.

  37. wpa--ccc July 6, 2015 at 4:04 pm #

    “The only answer is the Golden Dawn who will put a swift end to such shenanigans.” — Janos

    A final solution? Scholars and media have described Golden Dawn as neo-Nazi and fascist. Golden Dawn is imperialist, expansionist, and pro-war… with an almost Nazi flag design. You fascists love to stir up nationalist hate for neighbors, and toward anyone with a darker skin, or non-Christian belief system, eh Janos.

    “Golden Dawn adopted several southern Balkan focused regional objectives as its main programme: to promote the idea of a Greater Greece through the expansion of Greek territory into southern Albania (Northern Epirus), the Republic of Macedonia, and southern Bulgaria, and ultimately Greece’s reconquest of Constantinople and western Anatolia through war with Turkey; to push for the complete Hellenisation of Greek Macedonia and Western Thrace through the expulsion of Northern Greece’s last remaining Bulgarian-speaking minority (or so-called Slavophone Greeks) and the Turkish-speaking Muslim minority of East Macedonia and Thrace that dates to the Ottoman period”

    • Q. Shtik July 6, 2015 at 6:00 pm #


      You didn’t identify who it is that you are quoting in the paragraph above.

      In any case, you have inadvertently confirmed a point I have often made that there are no fixed borders except as a people is able to conquer and then defend such borders. i.e. Might makes right. e.g. We took the southwest from the Mexicans and now they are taking it back because we don’t seem to have the will it takes to defend it.

      • EvelynV July 7, 2015 at 12:05 pm #

        Mr. Q,

        With all respect to you, every shimmering drop of if…

        google has obviated the need for people to clutter their posts by citing their sources of reference.

        For the unruly few who care, it is a simple matter to highlight a portion of the quote in question, right click, and select the “search with google” option.

        • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 1:03 pm #

          i guess that i’m just not among “the unruly few who care”. given the source, i’m guessing it came from some fringer or fanatic.

  38. FincaInTheMountains July 6, 2015 at 4:05 pm #

    “Ok, but surely you are not denying that more than a thousand Israeli military “advisors” were helping the Georgians when they invaded Russian territory a couple of years ago?” — Janos

    Military people work under their orders. Let the professional SMERSH people (Smert Shpionam – Death to the Spies) filter out possible bad stock.

  39. RocketDoc July 6, 2015 at 4:09 pm #

    As a Southerner, I like to know who the enthusiastic idiots are. They could be saying Hey I’m proud to be a so called hick. I need a tattoo right now. Or they like Dale Earnhart. Go NASCAR. Or they think states rights is a constitutional idea. Or they are in fact racists and Klan sympathizers. Nobody alive has had anything to do with slavery and I have never heard anyone say the flag represents slavery. It represents the South that had slavery. It is “us”, the South vs”you” all those other people. Are we on the same American team? Yes. In fact a greater percentage of Southerners do the current fighting for the old US of A. Should we officially get rid of the flag? Yes. Come on SC strike the colors. I’m from Alabama. But if the flag means something to you besides I hate black folks, then fly it proudly. And if it means, I am a racist, great, we don’t have to invite you to the neighborhood picnic. As for me I can’t get the pictures of all those ridiculous Klansman out of my head and will demur.
    If my neighbor does not like my BMW because it is a German car and reminds him of the holocaust, whose problem is it?

    • Frankiti July 6, 2015 at 5:13 pm #

      Everyone forgets that the last flag flown over the confederacy was pure white. History belongs to the victors and the dust bin is filled with flags, ideas, peoples and governments… plenty of room for some more.

    • ozone July 6, 2015 at 7:53 pm #

      (Sorry for the off-topic-ness, but)
      ……I happen to be ‘fine’ with these symbols and do not begrudge those who would bow to them with belligerent pride; let ’em wear armbands and sewn-on badges on all their clothing for all I care. ‘Least I know exactly who I’m dealing with and what stripe of bullshit they adhere to. Hell, slap some bumper stickers on their autos, horses, mules and other means of conveyance while we’re at it; that way we can see which way they’re headed.

      As things get squeakier (when belly meets backbone) knowing ones enemy is going to be of prime importance. (To say nothing of how deception and venality will be ‘dealt with’.)

      • Janos Skorenzy July 6, 2015 at 9:07 pm #

        So what flag will you be flying? Both the Jihad and the Rainbow Flags are jolly rogers, flags of piracy and evil. The Stars and Bars is a flag of honor, flown now in Europe as well.

        • ozone July 7, 2015 at 9:13 am #

          ‘Don’ need no steenking badges, crazy-boy.
          (And we are already well familiar with your delightful insignias.)

          • elysianfield July 12, 2015 at 4:53 pm #

            “Don’ need no steenking badges,”

            Corasco….Treasure of the Sierra Madres.

    • EvelynV July 7, 2015 at 12:09 pm #

      Similarly the swastika pre-existed Hitler and most who enamored of it had nothing to do with box cars full of terrified humans. Furthermore…never mind.

  40. FincaInTheMountains July 6, 2015 at 4:18 pm #

    “To mint a 20-trillion dollar copper coin” — me

    From conversation in supermarket:

    “Could you, please, change my 20-trillion quarter into 20,000 one billion two-bits? I need to make a couple of phone calls…”

  41. Q. Shtik July 6, 2015 at 5:23 pm #

    Yukon is GMC, not Toyota. Duh! – Hines root beer


    I guess I’m not a *gearhead* like you.

    • EvelynV July 7, 2015 at 12:15 pm #

      Shame on you Q, that is petulant beyond the pale.

      Would it take a gearhead to recognize which of the following are off key…?

      A Ford Fairlane
      A Dodge Charger
      A Buick Regal
      A Cadillac Impala
      A Honda Civic

      • Q. Shtik July 7, 2015 at 12:34 pm #

        Smarten up Evelyn, the “gearhead” remark was a joke.

        • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 1:05 pm #


          see bigpete55 just below for explanation…

        • EvelynV July 7, 2015 at 1:35 pm #

          Everyone’s “get out of jail free card”…it was just a joke.

          Your’s had an unpleasant taint.

          • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 2:37 pm #

            break it up kids, this whole Comments Section is a joke

            feel better? shake on it

          • Q. Shtik July 7, 2015 at 10:09 pm #

            Your’s had an unpleasant taint. – Evelyn


            Everybody’s “taint” is unpleasant. hahaha, get it?

      • LeoH July 7, 2015 at 1:09 pm #

        The Honda Civic is an import?

        • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 2:14 pm #


          77 percent of all Honda and Acura automobiles sold in America in 2006 were produced in North America. A number of Honda models are manufactured exclusively in North America, including the Honda Pilot, Element, Odyssey, Ridgeline, Accord Coupe, Civic Coupe and Civic Si.


  42. bigpete55 July 6, 2015 at 6:46 pm #

    One of the problems I’ve always found with participating in a blog is that there is an inherent disposition on the part of participants to defy others’ opinion or statement. That is, no matter what I say, someone is going to say I’m wrong, seek to tweak it, or otherwise qualify it so their intellectual universe is not too badly discomfited. It’s either too hot or too cold Goldilocks. It doesn’t mean I am wrong, but the very act of participation functions as a dinner bell to folks who are so invested in their perspective as to be unable to relinquish yardage. What I say doesn’t have to necessarily make sense to YOU in order to be valid.

    • ozone July 6, 2015 at 7:37 pm #

      I strongly agree.
      (Survey answer “D”)

      • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 2:16 pm #

        is this Opinion Poll connected to the US Presidential thing? I already answered this question in that one.

    • Sticks-of-TNT July 6, 2015 at 9:35 pm #


      I also agree. Well articulated blogosphere observation. In the future, perhaps we should refer to it as the “Goldilocks Syndrome” and watch for it.

      Call ’em out. “GS the BS!


    • S M Tenneshaw July 7, 2015 at 1:25 am #

      Oh yeah? Sez you.

      • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 11:03 am #

        Second Best Short Post Ever!

    • EvelynV July 7, 2015 at 12:21 pm #


      It goes with the territory. The demographic of those who participate in forums is almost by definition several standard deviations away from anywhere close to the middle of the bell curve.

      i agree with you entirely, it is a weird group of people who have a compulsive need to express their opinions to a hopelessly small sliver of pretty fucking weird people.

      • elysianfield July 7, 2015 at 12:26 pm #

        ” it is a weird group of people who have a compulsive need to express their opinions to a hopelessly small sliver of pretty fucking weird people.”

        No doubt genetic…

      • bigpete55 July 7, 2015 at 12:29 pm #

        Several deviations. That’s funny. Well, I’ve been reading the column for at least decade and have only commented on a few occasions. You’re right EvelynV but……..I, I had to say it!

      • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 1:09 pm #

        is it a “hopelessly small sliver” or “hopelessly fucking weird people”?

        I forgot my grammatical rules on modifying nouns

      • Frankiti July 7, 2015 at 6:58 pm #


    • bigpete55 July 7, 2015 at 12:26 pm #

      I should have said “certain participants.” Obviously not all. And maybe, for some folks, contradiction is a way of life, an end in itself, their raison d’être. It doesn’t bother me to be corrected on matters of fact or to have my perspective genuinely challenged. That’s how it should be. But substituting useful discourse with tiresome semantic pedantry is so freakin lame! Thanks all for your replies

      • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 1:13 pm #

        Who’re the “tiresome semantic pedant[ics]”? C’mon “[Yo]’ve been reading the column for at least decade” so name names. Give it up! Now’s the time to catch up on all those years of not Commenting.

        Curious minds want to know.

        • bigpete55 July 7, 2015 at 3:15 pm #

          Does it really matter Danny Boy? Isn’t that just ad hominem bullshit? Why not focus on the issues? I don’t care who they are. I don’t have an axe to grind with them personally just stuff like this that I’m commenting on right now.

          • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 5:04 pm #

            Yes it does matter. Taking shots at entire Comment Boards while hiding behind some ‘I have some Observations’ to share about you people’ is ugly and indefensible, (IMHO). There I wrote IMHO so I can say any kind of judgement I want about people that I just don’t mix or Comment with. What’s up with that?

            Read your shit (and I mean that in the kindest way). “Isn’t that just ad hominem bullshit?”

            “One of the problems I’ve always found with participating in a blog is that there is an inherent disposition on the part of participants to defy others’ opinion or statement. That is, no matter what I say, someone is going to say I’m wrong,” – bigpete55

            You are WAY FKN wrong! Feel better?

            “And maybe, for some folks, contradiction is a way of life, an end in itself, their raison d’être.” – bigpete55

            I asked you to identify who the fck you are accusing of this. Step up or shut up!

            But substituting useful discourse with tiresome semantic pedantry is so freakin lame!

            This judgement, without facing the accused just reeks of cowardice. Reading for decade and judging those who interact…what????

            And that’s ‘dannyboy’. show some little bit of respect for a person.

        • Frankiti July 7, 2015 at 7:01 pm #

          Nothing tames a yappy terrier like a good stomp to the muzzle

        • bigpete55 July 18, 2015 at 11:05 am #

          I know this is kind of late, but better late than never. I just couldn’t let it go. Dannyboy, IMHO, YOU are the coward and the ignoranus at the same time. First, my comments weren’t directed to the entire comment board or even YOU for the that matter. You specifically never even showed up on my radar. SO WHY THE FUCK DID YOU MAKE IT ABOUT YOU dannyboy?! WHY IN THE FUCK DID YOU TAKE IT UPON YOURSELF TO GO ABOUT WAVING THAT FLAG?

          Second, no one individual is in anyway shape or form guilty of anything. After all, who am I to accuse. I just observe assholes like yourself who think they can bully people with their sense of right and wrong, or who go around correcting every point that is, to them, off base, or wrong or whatever they have a problem with. But WHO IN THE FUCK ARE YOU TO BULLY ME? You didn’t like my comment? Too fuckin bad! You don’t run the message board.

  43. DrTomSchmidt July 6, 2015 at 6:50 pm #

    It’ll happen everywhere. The Japanese are next, of course, and they may be the most fortunate, since they retain more than a few shreds of memory for exactly that mode of life: the Tokugawa shogunate (the Edo period, 1600 – 1853), a manner of high pre-industrial economy and culture that might have persisted indefinitely had not Commodore Perry come knocking on their door, so to speak, in his “black ships.”

    A question for JHK, perhaps a future column. We all know that there will be a massive drop in available fossil fuel, and that “growth” is over. But in the process of burning through all that oil, we did manage to learn a few things about how to generate power from sun, wind, etc, and how to build super-efficient houses to keep warm in. Also, we will not have a cliff drop off in fossil fuels. What will happen is that global BTUs per capita, which has been dropping (since before 2005; there must be a point between 1950 and 2005 when we hit peak BTUs per capita) for a while, will eventually hit a trough.

    Assuming we can harvest energy from renewables and some fossil fuel, what century does that correspond to? Assume that the average person in the USA used 1/100th in 1800 of the BTUs we use today. If the trough in global BTUs per capita hits that point, could we have the standard of living of 1800? Or are we going back further, to the time before ANY significant use of fossil fuel?

    Let’s not discuss how we grow food without oil, and just assume the magic food fairy brings it.

  44. wpa--ccc July 6, 2015 at 6:54 pm #

    “So we will now impose on you a geriatric syphilitic moonbat as titular leader of the greatest republic ever” –nsa

    nsa does not choose. Bernie Sanders is not geriatric, nor syphilitic, nor moonbat. Bernie is already selecting cabinet heads and the nsa is not involved. It is so easy to overcome your total information dominance.

    PS, nsa, your use of the n-word is offensive…

  45. wpa--ccc July 6, 2015 at 7:19 pm #

    “Let’s not discuss how we grow food without oil, and just assume the magic food fairy brings it.” — Dr. Tom Schmidt

    The magic food fairies can work miracles in just a quarter acre.


    • DrTomSchmidt July 7, 2015 at 9:54 am #

      I had heard of these folks. Thanks for the video. Intensive gardening, especially in greenhouses, can supply a lot of food in a little space. It’s somethng we have learned at great cost from fossil fuels, and I hope we don’t forget t.

      Will it work in New York? Only way to know is to try.

      • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 10:11 am #

        works in nyc.

        the great debate between kunstler and me is whether i can survive in nyc. he’s figuring impossible, i figure improbable. have a second get-away, in case kunstler’s right.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 2:41 pm #

          Watch Escape from New York. The whole city’s going to be closed down to protect the suburbs. At best you’ll be air lifted out by helicopter – a service which you should be billed for btw.

          • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 2:50 pm #

            that’s a movie

            you know that?

  46. fodase July 6, 2015 at 8:07 pm #

    The magic food fairies can work miracles in just a quarter acre.

    lol, more dire predictions of massive downsizing.

    We all know that there will be a massive drop in available fossil fuel, and that “growth” is over.

    they just discovered another 100 billion barrels in the UK, among other discoveries.

    Spain gets 50% of its electricity from the wind, Ireland gets 15-20%, Denmark gets 100%+ at times and exports the surplus, Australian electricity production by utilities has fallen 13% in recent years because everyone gets electricity from solar panels, Germany……

    The US is only beginning to ramp up solar production and is set to far outstrip the above countries thanks to its wonderfully sunny west-southwest region.

    we’re doing fine finding ways to replace fossil fuels….even the saudis know they’ll be leaving oil in the ground.

    this type of analysis assumes there’s no technological advance. it equates a contrived running out of oil with the blunt end of the bulk of economic activity and farming.

    everything we see points in the opposite direction.


    • DrTomSchmidt July 7, 2015 at 10:04 am #

      “AVailable” fossil fuel isn’t fossil fuel. At the start of the oil age, we yielded 100 units of energy in oil for every unit invested to produce it. Unconventional oil is still profitable; it comes in about 12 to 15-1. Meaning you need to produce 6-8 barrels of unconventional oil to get the same net energy yield as one barrel of conventional. Contrast lifting costs in Iraq, probably the cheapest oil on the planet, to those in the Bakken. Profit from the stuff is the goal, not the stuff itself. That has been dropping.

      Do you have any good estimates on BTUs/capita over time? I think we can both agree that that is a measure of human wellbeing. It’s summer, and I like air conditioning as much as the next guy.

      As to “everything we see points in the opposite direction,” I dont know who “we” is. I see a country that cannot get into space that once went to the moons, that cannot build public infrastructure at even 10x the cost of other first-world countries, that gets increasingly bureaucratic and police-state in an effort to control a generalized sense of malaise among the people who “see” other things.

  47. FincaInTheMountains July 6, 2015 at 8:37 pm #

    Opinion: They Shoot Horses, Don’t They?

    Yesterday’s referendum in Greece, with its more than 60 percent “No” to the requirements of lenders has signaled the beginning of the last stage of modern financial system. Phase that will be short but significant. Its meaning is not entirely in Greece or even in the European Union. The purpose of that stage that all the free money of the West must come to the United States, where it will die to the benefit of the authors of this diabolical plan.

    Now add to the financial problem the problem of refugees, or, to put it bluntly, the problem of African invasion of Europe. This invasion, which began with the “Arab spring” and the destruction of Libya, is approaching its peak. And the recent terrorist attack in Tunisia is another small cherry on the cake of the strategic plan of liquidation of Europe that everyone used to know. The flow of refugees urgently needs to increase.

    Even before the end of this year we will see a new mass exodus of people and money from Europe to the United States, like the one observed prior to WWII. It will give a little support to United States, but only for a short period of time. Most of the available capital of Europe has been already sucked away. And therefore the main events of this story, already in America, to begin soon.

    The Owl.

  48. fodase July 6, 2015 at 8:54 pm #

    finca, your last post doesn’t make much sense.

    provide some specifics. how big is a ‘mass’ exodus, how long is a ‘short period of time’.

    typical attempt to sound grave without being able to supply any specifics.


    • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 12:25 am #

      He thinks the Bankers should be paid back yet he tries to seem like he’s on the side of the people. His ethnicity explains the contradiction. After all, Trotsky used to meet Rothschild for lunch and chess.

      • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 10:15 am #

        Janos trots [Trotsky, get it?] out:

        “His ethnicity explains the contradiction.”

        what a fkn debater!

        his fresh idea

        • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 2:36 pm #

          What, am I chopped liver? C’mon! Admit it: that was a fastball. You don’t fool me Mister: you’re in awe of me. Denny Krane.

          • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 2:39 pm #

            Yes you are chopped liver.

            First sign of insight.

            There’s hope.

            Glad my help is working.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 2:57 pm #

            Need a liver?

          • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 5:44 pm #

            i’m vegetarian, no liver or chopped liver for me.

            And my liver is fine, moderate drinking, good diet, good lifestyle, and YOU KNOW, good genes. ha, ha,………..

        • malthuss July 7, 2015 at 4:39 pm #

          ‘It is WHITE MEN, who you don’t even know, that are causing you trouble.’

          Like Andrea [female] who said ‘Iowa is too White’?

          Do you know these people? The trouble makers?

          • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 5:07 pm #

            Andrea is your problem?

            I thought it was oppression, looting, war mongering, energy, food, civility, social order, life…

            Good that you’ve substituted Andrea, makes your response simpler.

  49. Buck Stud July 6, 2015 at 11:25 pm #

    Regarding the Confederate Flag hoopla I’m not sure what to think. As I see it, it currently seems more of a nostalgic symbol than something diabolical and evil. For example, way back when I saw Lynrd Skynyrd and they had a huge Confederate Flag as a backdrop. I’m pretty sure they weren’t seeking to subliminally or symbolically invoke the most hideous socio/economicl ethos of the Old South; no, their brand of “Southern Pride” seemed more visceral in a pathos sense: Descendants of the defeated reminding the ignorant there were other Southern virtues to be proud of and still believe in. Hence songs such as “Simple Man” etc.

    Unfortunately, the moron who cloaked himself in the Confederate Flag probably never read or even heard of the Southern Agrarians. A snippet by way of Wiki( a fast quick search):

    ” All the articles bear in the same sense upon the book’s title-subject: all tend to support a Southern way of life against what may be called the American or prevailing way; and all as much as agree that the best terms in which to represent the distinction are contained in the phrase, Agrarian versus Industrial. …Opposed to the industrial society is the agrarian, which does not stand in particular need of definition. An agrarian society is hardly one that has no use at all for industries, for professional vocations, for scholars and artists, and for the life of cities. Technically, perhaps, an agrarian society is one in which agriculture is the leading vocation, whether for wealth, for pleasure, or for prestige – a form of labor that is pursued with intelligence and leisure, and that becomes the model to which the other forms approach as well as they may. But an agrarian regime will be secured readily enough where the superfluous industries are not allowed to rise against it. The theory of agrarianism is that the culture of the soil is the best and most sensitive of vocations, and that therefore it should have the economic preference and enlist the maximum number of workers.”

    Sort of reads like a “World Made By Hand” manifesto. The point being that blanket condemnation, whether it be of symbols or societies, caters to the worst sort of lazy demonization: Ignorant, ill-considered acceptance and burning good chapters out of bad books.

    And in a world that is becoming increasingly politically correct and repressive, the idea of less expressive elbow room is frightening indeed.

    Anyway back to the concert. Poor Lynrd Skynrd, they made the mistake of having to follow the Elvin Bishop Band. And as good as they were at Southern Rock, nobody was going to out jam Ol’ Bishops band back in the days when he strutted his musical stuff with a Red Dog Gibson draped over his Pig Boy Crabshaw overalls.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 12:22 am #

      Well said. The South was basically right and it certainly has the right to cling to its Symbol of Freedom and Strength. If the Blacks don’t like it, who cares? It’s not like we’re all one people. That’s moonshine. Blacks want us to feel unity with them whilst they feel none with us – a psychological scam. Everyone has turned their back on these people – even NASCAR! Utterly shameless pandering in any case and perhaps a poor business decision? There may be non-business factors at work here, eh?

      Meanwhile, the Battle Flag flies in Germany and Eastern Europe. It has become a Symbol of White Pride World Wide.

      • BackRowHeckler July 7, 2015 at 12:47 am #

        NASCAR, craven, money sucking sonabitches like the worst scumbag hedgefunders down in Greenwich, CT

      • messianicdruid July 9, 2015 at 11:59 pm #

        I am thinking about getting a large battle flag and replacing the stars with white letters saying: “Freedom To Secede” or “I Have Withdrawn My Consent”, so as to avoid confusion.

    • seawolf77 July 8, 2015 at 10:55 am #

      “Mein Kampf” never ends.

    • RocketDoc July 8, 2015 at 5:38 pm #

      @BS and ozone. My apologies for the off-topic post but thanks for the thoughtful replies. I should say something trenchant about money since that is the topic but nobody I know knows what it is and that has convinced me that I do not know a thing about it either except that the dollar is blowing up sometime before the sun does.

  50. BackRowHeckler July 7, 2015 at 12:00 am #

    I thought the ‘War on Women’ was just more political BS, but maybe there’s something to it. How else can you explain the young lady in SF, strolling with her dad, shot in the head by a Mexican illegal? Her final words, “Help me, daddy.” And just today, in Los Angeles, the pretty, young, Hollywood production assistant, strolling sunset boulevard, shotgunned by a 6 foot tall black man for no apparent reason who came up behind her, back of her head blown off,

    Check out the news sites, seems a low level war is going on across the US.

    In Chicago last weekend 85 shot, 9 dead, including the young son of a gangbanger, who refuses to talk. That’s pretty high casualties, ‘specially in a war not yet officially declared.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 12:16 am #

      The Mexican thought she was a seal, or so he said. It’s possible: they guy is mostly Indian and some of these people have very low IQ’s. Add to that a life of drugs and crime, and he may well be in a constant state of hallucination. Not that’s completely crazy: he knew he could get away with more and get more freebies in America, especially a “sanctuary city” like San Francisco.

      Yet crazed White Liberals call anyone who object to this state of affairs a “racist”. How low can you go?

      • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 10:28 am #


        Yesterday, you asked for my definition of Racism, which I provided yesterday as treating as inferior an entire group of people based solely on their identification with a race, religion, color, etc

        Today, i can tell you that Janos is Racism. More concrete?

        • elysianfield July 7, 2015 at 12:22 pm #

          As a working definition, this would not define racism as the word is used…I do not know if Janos has ever treated anyone different due to race. He discusses race, describes attributes assigned to various races, he may use racial pejoratives, but I have never seen this on the site. I would agree 100% with your “working definition”. How a person speaks in private, or thinks or believes cannot be racist under your definition, and I think this is correct. I have my own views and beliefs regarding different races (only vague generalities)…I would never act on these beliefs in the singular, and approach all people with a modicum of respect and civility…until disabused. The term “racism”, I believe is widely miss-applied, and has been weaponized.

          • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 1:16 pm #

            I don’t like being treated with derision citing my Jewish identity. Need more?

          • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 2:19 pm #

            And I don’t like my Race being dragged through the mud by the Jewish owned press and entertainment establishment.

          • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 2:42 pm #

            they’re the racists?

            – another pronouncement from The Authority on Everything Important (to janos)

          • elysianfield July 7, 2015 at 5:13 pm #

            since when does a civil discussion or debate, standing alone, define how you or your heritage are being treated? Derision is, indeed, in the eye/ear of the beholder….where is the refusal of human rights, where is the violence? You could meet Janos on the streets of your, admitted, upscale Manhattan neighborhood, and if he treated you in an entirely civil manner, could you call him a racist by his actions?

            “Yesterday, you asked for my definition of Racism, which I provided yesterday as treating as inferior an entire group of people based solely on their identification with a race, religion, color, etc”

            Where has he treated you, ever, as an inferior? Discussion is not action. I might believe that Blacks (in general) prefer white women and loose shoes. If I treat blacks as equals, am I a racist? You may need to refine your working definition of “racist”.

          • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 5:49 pm #

            “Dannyboy, since when does a civil discussion or debate, standing alone, define how you or your heritage are being treated? Derision is, indeed, in the eye/ear of the beholder….where is the refusal of human rights, where is the violence? = elysianfield,

            You are waiting for the violence before recognizing racism? It will come and you will say “I just didn’t know there was a racist movement? I”M SHOCKED!

          • elysianfield July 7, 2015 at 8:23 pm #

            I asked for a working definition, and you identified racism as being “treated” differently. I fully agreed with you, but now you want to expand the working definition to actions AND thoughts? Are we to arrest men as rapists who fantasize about sex with unobtainable women? Do we arrest parents for child abuse when they KNOW they should liberally apply the rod to their little brats, but avoid the temptation? I am afraid your definition of racism is unworkable… Can you give me a definition of racism that we can all accept as generally applicable…that should broach no argument among intelligent people?

            “You are waiting for the violence before recognizing racism? It will come and you will say “I just didn’t know there was a racist movement? I”M SHOCKED!”

            Dannyboy, How can I recognize racism without a clear definition of the word? Help me here.

          • dannyboy July 8, 2015 at 8:03 am #

            I AM SHOCKED.

            You provide Janos with a forum to spew hate, AND WANT TO PROTECT THAT HATE-SPEWING, yet go all restrictive on me using the word “racist”. ‘Nigger’s ok but ‘racist’ is forbidden.

          • elysianfield July 8, 2015 at 11:19 am #


            “You provide Janos with a forum to spew hate, AND WANT TO PROTECT THAT HATE-SPEWING, yet go all restrictive on me using the word “racist”. ‘Nigger’s ok but ‘racist’ is forbidden.”

            With all respect, if you can’t adequately define the word, quit using it. I was applying your( supposedly) well thought out working definition….and now I am to find that your definition is too “restrictive”, by your own comments! Could you take a minute and give me a new and improved, acceptable (to you)definition so that we can all fully understand what you are saying. This request is not made lightly, if you can’t provide an honest definition of the word you use often on this site, I am going to begin to question your “intellectual veracity”, and also your ability to intelligently converse at an adult level.

            Please, no more ad hominem attacks, nor wild accusations…just avoid the slack thinking and provide some clarity.

          • dannyboy July 8, 2015 at 1:37 pm #

            “With all respect, if you can’t adequately define the word, quit using it. I was applying your( supposedly) well thought out working definition….and now I am to find that your definition is too “restrictive”, by your own comments!”

            My definition is NOT too restrictive.

            You are restricting my use of the word ‘racist’ while at the same time allowing and defending the liberal use of ‘nigger’, ‘beaner’, etc

            if you can’t be honest in discussion and need to change my words before you can respond, “I am going to begin to question your ‘intellectual veracity’, and also your ability to intelligently converse at an adult level.”

            You started this truth-twisting with: “Are we to arrest men as rapists who fantasize about sex with unobtainable women? Do we arrest parents for child abuse when they KNOW they should liberally apply the rod to their little brats, but avoid the temptation? I am afraid your definition of racism is unworkable”

            You do know that no one is identified by their thoughts, but that people who write about their rape plans and child beating are questioned. Why are you against questioning the words of a racist?

          • elysianfield July 9, 2015 at 11:54 am #


            “You do know that no one is identified by their thoughts, but that people who write about their rape plans and child beating are questioned. Why are you against questioning the words of a racist?”

            I agree that people who write as you describe can, and maybe should be questioned…but not labeled…and this is the issue in question. Discourse on this site IS questioning.

            Do not think I am simply badgering you on this point. The term “Racist”, as it is currently used, can mean anything. There were charges of racism against Hillary Clinton for saying …”all lives matter”, instead of “black lives matter”…now, I loathe that woman, but would resist calling her a racist for those remarks.

            I can accept the term “racist” as a person that would treat another person differently due to their race, etc…. This was your own definition…do you object?

        • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 2:18 pm #

          What if an entire group of people is inferior to another, as Whites are to Blacks in running and Blacks are to Whites in thinking?

          Equality is a useful mathematical and legal abstraction, but it’s just at that level – where it exists – that you deny it via affirmative action. And you all plan to champion the First Amendment even as you take it away via hate crime laws – as you have already done in Europe. The wedge here in America will by the Gays and their supposed rights – which trump our rights.

          Freedom isn’t free. Free Men aren’t equal. And equal men aren’t free. Thus the equal treatment of unequal people is tyranny.

          • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 2:26 pm #


            When you (Janos) write: “And you all plan to champion the First Amendment even as you take it away via hate crime laws” – am I included in “you all plan”?

            Because I am NOT planning to.

            Yet another example of you (Janos) making fkn generalizations about groups of people. Losing your ability to discriminate (ha, ha, ha)?

          • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 2:34 pm #

            So why did you try to get me kicked off this site? And why are you still here, since you vowed that this site wasn’t big enough for both of us, and if I didn’t go, you would? Does you word, then, mean so little?

          • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 2:43 pm #

            so is it the Gays that are stealing your rights? or the Jews? or the …

          • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 2:55 pm #

            Janos – here is my best help that I can offer:

            It is WHITE MEN, who you don’t even know, that are causing you trouble. Read Kunstler’s essays. These WHITE MEN who you don’t know are causing trouble for many White People and other kinds (you know who I mean).

            Turning group against group is the WHITE PERSON and their BLACK, JEW, MEXICAN enablers agenda. You’re just playing into their hands.

            Take good care of yourself.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 3:02 pm #

            So who are these White Men? Are they Masons? And do they see Jews as White?

            Masonry certainly admits Jews and much of their symbolism is derived from Judaism. As you know, Jews were granted their very own Masonry, Bnai Brith – Sons of the Covenant. Do they allow Blacks in, do you know? Many forms of Masonry still refuse to admit Blacks. And all through the Civil Rights Era, there has not been one word about this in the Jewish owned media.

          • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 5:13 pm #

            Not Masons. Janos you are reverting to the same “I gotta blame Jews, or Blacks, or Mexicans, or Masons, or Gays, or…

            Get off that jag.

            It’s the PTB. Men in power. You don’t even know them, but only because you don’t meet them. Not a Conspiracy. Have you ever been in his office when the Chairman of the largest Wall Street bank schedules a call to his friend, the Vice President of the United States.

            You are so fucked if you think it’s some Gay guy who is fkn you. He’s already got a partner.

  51. BackRowHeckler July 7, 2015 at 12:32 am #

    The ‘Racist’ charge doesn’t carry much weight anymore; its been levelled too often, used too much, nobody cares.

    Confederate monuments in the South are being vandalized and damaged, just like Roman monuments are being destroyed by ISIS in Palmyra, Syria, same type of people doing the destroying, too. Only problem is, in the South, some not too stable whites might get the idea its monument breaking time, and begin breaking MLK monuments, thinking it might work both ways, not one way.


    • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 2:29 pm #

      Wapo is right: your friends at the barbershop don’t care, but it is still a terrible and growing power of the Death Force. And millions of Liberal fanatics and their minority goons are willing to kill in its name.

      Same thing with Russian Communism: the ordinary Russian stopped believing generations before it fell. Countless horrors lie ahead before it dies.

  52. nsa July 7, 2015 at 12:43 am #

    You are mostly ahistorical and have no conception of James K Polk and his expansion of the fledgling empire. Polk pushed into Mexico relentlessly…without resistance. He finally goaded the Mexicans into a fight after burning Vera Cruz to the ground and threatening the remaining half of their country….and then imposed a humiliating treaty on the mexicans. Decent proud people would have fought back…but the beaners abjectly rolled over and spread their legs. So disappeared one half of Mexico.
    Polk then euchered the brits out of a large swath on Canada….54-40 or fight. The cowardly canadians chose immediately to give up most their fertile land, having in mind the plight of their southern cowardly cousins….losing half their country.
    Ask 1000 americans to explain james K polk…….not 1 has the slightest idea of who he was…such is the modern educational system.

    • BackRowHeckler July 7, 2015 at 12:52 am #

      Polk was a protege of Andrew Jackson

      back in the day when whitey had a pair, and wasn’t checking his shorts on an hourly basis to see what gender he was …

    • elysianfield July 7, 2015 at 5:19 pm #

      I, for one, am well-familiar with James K. Polk…He was studied at length in both our grade schools and High Schools. As I recall, He was that guy that did that thing….

  53. sprezzatura July 7, 2015 at 9:32 am #

    “todesfurcht” = fear of death

    Il est impoli d’utiliser des mots étrangers qui ne sont pas compris par les lecteurs.

    No se debe utilizar palabras estranjeras desconocidas por los lectores.

  54. seawolf77 July 7, 2015 at 9:51 am #

    All you have to do is look at the British Empire right before World War 1 and you have America. Then the British pound was 5 to 1 to the dollar. Right now the Chinese Yuan or renminbi is 6 to 1 to the dollar. The British pound never did get to parity, settling in at 1.50 to 1 or so. To get there we had 2 world wars and at the end of the second, the British Empire was on life support, the pound had been displaced as the reserve currency by the dollar in everything except James Bond movies. America, like England, will do everything in its power to prevent that from happening, including rape, torture, murder, extortion and any other crime you can think of and in today’s technological wizard land, some you can’t think of.

    • elysianfield July 7, 2015 at 12:36 pm #

      As I recall, the pound was actually worth 5 times the dollar in the pre-war exchange rate…something like 1 Pound=$4.65…yes?

      • seawolf77 July 8, 2015 at 8:52 am #

        Oops. That’s what I meant to say. The reserve currency is 5 to 6 times the future reserve currency.

  55. ozone July 7, 2015 at 10:05 am #

    Yessiree-bob, it’s legalized criminality!
    It doesn’t take a Tarot reading to see which way the wheel is turning, but it’s always instructive to see who benefits/has benefited from others misery….. and continues to do so.


  56. swmnguy July 7, 2015 at 10:36 am #

    What our system of finance capitalism creates most efficiently and prolifically is debt. In fact, it can’t create anything at all until it has created debt first. A venture can go wrong, as ventures can and do, and fail utterly; yet the debt remains.

    Eventually the miracle of compound interest guarantees that the debt cannot be repaid, as in the old chessboard parable where a guy stipulates his reward to be one grain of wheat on square 1, two grains of square 2. four grains on square 3, eight grains of square 4, etc.

    The flaws of finance capitalism are well-known and no secret to anyone. Used to be, our economies collapsed every 20-30 years, with huge amounts of debt being discharged. This caused a lot of pain to a lot of people. By 1930, the Elites in America decided they didn’t want to face the risk of losing their wealth and advantages, and worse still, of losing their political power in the cyclical resets of corporate finance capitalism. They got their protege, FDR, to “fix” capitalism, to protect it from itself, and most of all, to protect the Elites from losing their privileges.

    FDR’s scheme managed the excesses and waste products of capitalism pretty well for about 70 years, with some hiccups of course, and necessary adjustments. Except the safeguards on capitalism prevented the Elites from getting their hands on the nearly unlimited wealth theoretically possible to create through abstract finance. So eventually, after 70 years of whining, the Elites got their new representatives into power (Clinton, Rubin, Gramm, etc.) to remove the rules that separated them from unlimited, if completely hypothetical, wealth

    And, utterly predictably, it only took about 7 years for the Elites, now unfettered, to mortally destroy corporate finance capitalism. The catch is, with their loyal retainers in power, now the Elites are completely insulated from any responsibility for their actions. They can keep all of their winnings, and they can put all the debt burden from their losses onto the public ledger.

    This, of course, speeds up the accumulation of debt by exponential functions. This makes it all the sooner that the system has to collapse and the debt has to be discharged. But since debt is what we use instead of money, and the debt is the entire goal of the Elites, they’d rather fly the plane into the mountain that give up their advantages.

    It’s going to be interesting. Don’t keep your “money” in banks, except what you have to keep their to pay your bills. Don’t take on any debt. Pay all your bills when due. Own your stuff outright or don’t buy it. Have access to food, water, tools that don’t have to run on electricity; get to know your neighbors; use the time you have to get your health in order; and above all, work on your sense of humor. We’re all going to need that, no matter what happens.

    • BackRowHeckler July 7, 2015 at 11:32 am #

      Good advise, Swmguy!

      If only I could heed it.

      Headed upriver in a few minutes from now with a 6 pack and an ultra lite rod (near Ozones spread) planning on catching me some trout.


  57. FincaInTheMountains July 7, 2015 at 10:39 am #

    “finca, your last post doesn’t make much sense” – fodase

    Russian street-level view on American Policy

    1. Pool the wool over everybody’s eyes
    2. Lure the rest of the world into a trap
    3. By the time things become particularly bad at home, shut the trap up, so the whole world becomes even worse
    4. The rest of the world will think that US are not so bad, so everybody rushes under American banners
    5. America grabs the goodies around the world and brings down the house of cards (dollar financial system)

    Make everybody worse off in the following ways:

    Lower the dollar exchange rate; give loans to everybody, raise the dollar, demand loans back. In such way the pleasure of being anally had were Asian Tigers in 1997, Russia in 1998, Argentina in 2001, Europe is being had right now.

    When a country is in crisis, give it the IMF loan, and for this take away everything of value. When the time comes to transfer the second tranche, take everything of value that remained. When the time comes to pay interest – have them perform a blow job.

    Bomb Serbia, Afghanistan, Iraq.

    Arrange chaos in the Middle East, where Europe and Southeast Asia take their oil from, US switches to pumping oil from Canada and Latin America.

    As a result, have Europe, China and the whole of Asia sit without oil, produce gasoline from shit by a teaspoon and distribute it using coupons. Electricity 2 hours a day on schedule, in the winter they heat with old furniture. Japan discovers that fraud has been played with its yen, and for the next 300 years will not be able to pay. Around Venezuela swim fleets of aircraft carriers, not letting the oil to go where it is not supposed to. Russia fighting off the crowds of hungry frozen unfriendly Europeans and Chinese.

    And only the Stars and Stripes proudly fly over all this mess.

    • FincaInTheMountains July 7, 2015 at 11:12 am #

      Hope that helps

  58. nsa July 7, 2015 at 10:57 am #

    THE TURD WORLD INVASION CONTINUES – 51 million “immigrants” in the last 8 years. That’s a whole lot of democrats….uneducated, diseased, criminal, and breeding like flies in a horse barn. The result: suppressed blue collar wages, clogged welfare rolls and jails, rampant crime, expanding ghettos, overused medical system. They cough up worms and TB germs in emergency rooms. They import black tar heroin and meth and sell it to your kids. You see the vermin everywhere in major cities with their bad jail house tattoos and rotten gang attitudes. Now imagine another 51 million of this scum in the next 8 years and what your country will look like…… But you don’t care as long as Binder & Binder can get you on disability for that bad lower back……..

    • malthuss July 7, 2015 at 11:26 am #

      People destroy the environment.
      ‘Greens’ are watermelons.

    • malthuss July 7, 2015 at 11:27 am #

      where did you get ’51 M’ number from?

    • BackRowHeckler July 7, 2015 at 11:28 am #

      Another 51 million is a low end estimate, we might be talking 200-250 million in that timeframe.

      This will be one crowded place.

      No common language, no common ancestry, no common religion, one wonders what will hold this place together. Samuel P Huntington asked that exact question and got in trouble at Harvard for having asked it. The answer right now it seems is Government Checks, and the promise of more Government Checks in the future. But what happens when there’s no money to fund the EBT cards and the food stamp coupons stop going out? That’s when it might begin to unravel.


      • malthuss July 7, 2015 at 4:38 pm #

        He posted ‘last 8 years’.

        And the future?

    • SteveO July 7, 2015 at 3:58 pm #

      Donald! What are you doing on this site?

  59. nsa July 7, 2015 at 11:39 am #

    Google up 51 million 8 years……this is a guv stat so probably far on the low side. So if you are a blue collar type worker…..learn to operate a leaf blower for $5/hour cash……or maybe bone up on your domestic skills and become a white houseboy for some imported commie chinese for say $250/week cash and room and board. That’s your bright future……

    • malthuss July 7, 2015 at 4:32 pm #

      10 years ago I dont recall what I see now.
      And it is a rarity –for now.

      Latino nannies and Asian babies.

  60. wpa--ccc July 7, 2015 at 11:56 am #

    “The ‘Racist’ charge doesn’t carry much weight anymore; its been levelled too often, used too much, nobody cares.”

    Nobody? Except Walmart, Macy’s, NASCAR, NBC, the legislatures of Southern states and 95% of the American people.

    Ask Donald Trump how much weight the racism charge carries.

  61. Q. Shtik July 7, 2015 at 12:42 pm #

    But substituting useful discourse with tiresome semantic pedantry is so freakin lame! – BigPete55


    Bullshit !!

    I totally LOVE tiresome semantic pedantry. ;o)

  62. wpa--ccc July 7, 2015 at 1:00 pm #

    “They import black tar heroin and meth and sell it to your kids” –nsa

    Are your white kids so stupid that they buy it? Where do jobless white kids get the money? White crime?

    nsa, all whites will need to be deported back to Europe along with their diseased drug-ridden children. /racist sarcasm off

    (oh, I forgot… calling myself a racist has lost its charge… LOL)

    • malthuss July 8, 2015 at 2:50 pm #

      oh, I forgot… calling myself a racist has lost its charge…
      Indeed. No one here cares if they are called a ray cyst [far as I can tell].

  63. volodya July 7, 2015 at 1:02 pm #

    I like it when they stand tall and act all superior and self-assured and say things like “believe me, it will be enough”. Makes me laugh. Oh, and according to Tsippy, there’ll be a deal within 48 hours of a NO vote.

    Sure, no doubt, and so the referendum was just theater? Merkel as the steely-eyed German from the far northern land that fun forgot, Tsipras and Varoufakis as the colorful and heroic leaders of the Greek resistance. Such drama, such suspense.

    But Greek grandpas didn’t find it entertaining. No, it was time to clean out the ATMs.

    More than one Greek must know that there’s a Goldman alumnus at the helm of the European Central Bank. What’s next, a Camorra boss in charge of Interpol?

    You have the ECB doing QE all the while telling the Greeks, yes, these other European governments we’re funding are corrupt and useless, but you guys are TOO corrupt and useless. Is there a standard somewhere? Maybe an ISO9000 type of thing?

    Are there Eurocrats from Brussels that go poking around with measuring sticks saying this is the permissible degree of curvature like with bananas but these Greek bananas are just way too bent?

  64. wpa--ccc July 7, 2015 at 1:18 pm #

    Volodya, I am enjoying our dialogue. However, ISO9000 has been replaced by ISO 9001 which allows you to self-audit your QMS and then announce to the world that it complies with the ISO 9001 standard. OK, Volodya? OK.

  65. LeoH July 7, 2015 at 1:22 pm #

    Why attack the tatoo’d, fat people who watch 5.63 hours of TV a day and drive their pick-up trucks to Goodwill and eat their convenient lunches at… when clearly the ‘other’ unemployed, those who spend their days fretting about their investments (and how not have to work) are the real drivers of the American situation.

  66. Buck Stud July 7, 2015 at 1:59 pm #

    It’s interesting to watch the latest political dynamics. Sanders is getting some traction in his run and Trump isn’t going away of backing down, And wouldn’t it be something if these two ‘fringe’ politicos got pushed so far out to the periphery that they ended up meeting in the middle: Socialism that acknowledges a need for border control and very carefully monitored immigration.

    Of course Trump would never go for socialism and Sanders for limited immigration.

    And so one will never get to hear this question answered on the stage of a major political debate: “Mr Sanders, how exactly can socialism work when millions of poor, uneducated foreigners are pouring over the borders to take advantage of American taxpayer largess and oh by the way, taking jobs away from American citizens in the process. In short, undercutting the American worker?”

    • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 2:26 pm #

      Exactly Buck: we need a “new” paradigm – a National Socialism that takes the best of both men and leaves their excesses and illusions behind.

      Read The Iron Heel by Jack London, a story about American National Socialists fighting against the Plutocrats.

      Amazing – there was once a Socialism that didn’t hate our Country, Western Civilization, the White Race, or even White Men. Marx was a thief who stole our Heritage and gave us a mess of pottage in its place.

  67. volodya July 7, 2015 at 3:47 pm #

    I may have been asleep and dreaming in front of the TV set a couple days ago but I thought I heard Mr. Debt-Doesn’t-Matter say something extremely intelligent for an economist and that is that the Euro-La-La-Land leaders don’t know what they’re doing.

    For which he ought to be given a Nobel in economics. He already has one? Well, give him another even though this is something mere mortals have been saying for some time only to be scoffed at and looked down on.

    To most people with an ounce of sense it was obvious a long time ago that this Euro currency was a fool’s errand. The only people that couldn’t or wouldn’t see it were highly educated people maybe because their pay packets depended on them NOT seeing it. There’s no greater incentive after all to not understanding something that’s otherwise as clear as day.

    Well, the cat’s out of the bag. At least a little. I mean, once the Nobel prize winners start to say something a wee bit intelligent, well, who knows what can happen? A regular avalanche of common sense? A re-structuring to sustainability? Dare we hope?

    • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 5:17 pm #

      Euro racket.

      ’nuff said.

      Economists are the enablers for the Looters. Don’t tell them I told you so, though. Propaganda. crazy talk

  68. wpa--ccc July 7, 2015 at 4:01 pm #

    ““Mr Sanders, how exactly can socialism work when millions of poor, uneducated foreigners are pouring over the borders” — Buck Stud

    Mr. Moderator, the very premise of your question is wrong. Immigrants have been shown, in study after study, to have a net positive effect on the economy. It has been so since the founding of our country. Immigrants are job creators.

    Socialism does work in the USA in the form of Medicare, Medicaid, the VA Hospital system, the United States Armed Forces. Funding for existing socialist programs and new socialist programs will be funded by changing our national priorities.

    No more funding of hundreds of military bases around the globe. No more nation building in places like Iraq. Our tax revenues will pay for nation building here at home.

    We are a country built by immigrants. Our existing and future immigrants (legal and illegal) will be a vital part of rebuilding our infrastructure and making America stronger.

    • wayfarer July 7, 2015 at 5:54 pm #

      Live in AZ and worked in the trades. Around Phoenix every job site for the last twenty years was mostly Mexicans, legal and illegal. White boss (or Mexican boss that spoke English well and knew his trade) and Mexican crews. My experience is that most Mexicans very much want to work and will work their asses off in a sweltering sun for minimum wage if that is all they can get. Most of the labor that built the U.S.’s fifth largest metropolitan area was Mexican.

      I remember one contractor, framer. Started with two illegal brothers working for him. Twenty years later those brothers are legalized, run crews of mostly imported legal family members, and do a great job, high quality, no corners cut. Everybody made money and no BS. This contractor did the high dollar stuff at the end of his career and was always busy because he and his ‘family’ knew which side their bread was buttered on!

      Now it does make it tough on white guys that want to experience the ‘American Dream’ as a carpenter. Really keeps the wages down. But, retired Californians could sell their house and buy an identical one in the Valley of the Sun for half the money, and enjoy their retirement with the other half.

      Life is trade offs. I guess the trick is getting on the right side of the trade off.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 6:38 pm #

        That’s how someone in the game thinks – and must think if he’s going to stay in the game. A small contractor may have to hire illegals in order to compete. It’s not his place to make changes in policy – that’s the Government’s role. And of course they should even the playing field by expelling all illegals so that contractor’s don’t have make deal with the devil – and so that Americans can get the jobs they now need to survive.

        It’s hard for people to believe, but the beds get made, the coffee poured, and the lawns cut in White States. And yes, Whites can labor in the Sun too – maybe not for minimum wage supplemented by welfare. That has to change too of course. You can’t change one big thing and expect not to have to make other big changes that correspond to it. And if the Sun is too much for the some, why there’s another race of people who can take the Sun very well. Maybe we can convince them to do some of this outdoor work?

      • malthuss July 8, 2015 at 2:47 pm #

        ‘Most of the labor that built the U.S.’s fifth largest metropolitan area was Mexican.

        And when USA dies its coffin will be draped in the Mexican flag.

        Yr quote is a ‘1 step forward, 101 backwards’ type idiocy.

      • malthuss July 8, 2015 at 2:48 pm #

        ‘But, retired Californians could sell their house’.
        What percent of White Californians OWN their homes? No mortgage.

  69. wpa--ccc July 7, 2015 at 4:09 pm #

    “A re-structuring to sustainability?” — Volodya

    Really, Volodya? You demand of the poor sustainability. Demand of the working class sustainability. But don’t look at the data. Just make slurs about the lazy, cafe drinking Greeks. The data do not support your prejudice against the Greek working class.

    Data from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development shows that workers in Greece put in an average weekly shift of 42 hours, even more than Germans who only manage 35.3. Some experts claim this is due to the nature of the work in Greece – people put in long hours in the agricultural sector and shops that stay open late.

    Interestingly, other countries badly effected by the economic crisis, such as Portugal and Spain, also rank high in the hours-worked list, coming second and third respectively. What about the stereotype that Greeks retire ridiculously early? The average retirement age is 57.8 in Greece. While this is low in comparison to other EU countries, it is not the lowest and margins are very thin – people in the UK retire aged 58.3 on average.

    • Q. Shtik July 7, 2015 at 10:31 pm #

      other countries badly [effected] by the economic crisis – wpa

  70. darrylv July 7, 2015 at 5:16 pm #

    From a small business owner’s perspective here in Canada I think Jim has things nailed. I can tell you from my end and a few of my friends that have small businesses the economy has never recovered from the 08 episode and has to implode at some point. Hey Jim, would like to hear your thoughts on the proposed Trans Pacific trade deal? Looks to me like another way for the multinationals to reduce our standard of living further here in North america and get rid of some more manufacturing (i.e. good paying) jobs. Great race to the bottom.

    • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 5:18 pm #

      There’s some real grif in that Deal.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 6:32 pm #

        The PTB are the JDM (Judeo-Masons) or Jews and their White allies. What’s the DIF (ference)? Jews don’t have to give up their heritage and love of their people to join whereas Whites do. So obviously Jews are very much the senior partners – at least in the Anglo-Sphere. It might be more or much more even on the Continent, Latin America, etc.

        • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 6:43 pm #

          Again with the Masons!

          The Jews!

          The Gays!

          The Blacks!

          The Mexicans!

          I can’t see the Conspiracy. One is a racial group, one is a religion, one is an ethnic group, one is a country, one is a fraternity, and…

          you say they meet in a lodge?

          • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 7:21 pm #

            You never answered me about Rabbi Schneerson saying Non-Jews weren’t human. Do you think he’s the Messiah?

          • dannyboy July 7, 2015 at 8:15 pm #


            now I’ve answered.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 7, 2015 at 8:37 pm #

            So you disagree with what the Talmud and Schneerson taught, that Non-Jews aren’t human?

          • dannyboy July 8, 2015 at 8:59 am #


            For the umpteenth time…

            I disagree with your interpretation of the Talmud.

            Wonder why?

  71. wayfarer July 7, 2015 at 5:18 pm #

    Some days I am hopeful about the future and others I am not. Today I am a little hopeful. Some of the hopeful reasons:

    The coming worldwide Google (and many others) Self-driving Taxicab Service: will dramatically reduce local transportation energy use (small shared electric vehicles), shrink urban sprawl both by reducing the need for parking lots and thru effective car sharing, reduce demand for primary (mines, chemicals,…)resources by again sharing cars, push C02 pollution back to the power plant where it could be better managed, if we choose too ….

    The FED and other world banks, and governments have so far been pretty effective in smoothing the bumps of this shrinking resources/population worldwide slowdown. Though I imagine that most Greeks would not agree with me.

    The push toward outer space and the hand off to private industry in rockets. Thats where the mineral and energy resources are if we can get to them economically (that and the ocean bottom). And don’t tell me it is a boondoggle, too many billionaires are throwing money at rocket development and those guys are not fools when it comes to money. Maybe when it comes to ethics or morality, who knows, but definitely not fools when it comes to power or wealth.

    So far, in the U.S. our freedoms are still pretty well intact. Not that the government doesn’t have the hammer ready if needed. I sure hope we continue a nice gentle economic slide and not a hammer.

  72. Pucker July 7, 2015 at 6:45 pm #

    There’s enough money off-budget that they could collapse the overt economy and keep it going through the covert economy.

    25% of the US Defense budget is unaccounted for.


    Former HUD Secretary and Goldman Sachs employee, Catherine Austin Fitts, documents trillions of US dollars unaccounted for. And the only platform for her story is a San Mateo, California UFO conference.

  73. Pucker July 7, 2015 at 6:54 pm #

    Unidentified Financial Object.

  74. Pucker July 7, 2015 at 7:46 pm #

    The intelligence agencies went into the banking business to create secret slush funds to finance their secret “Ops”, and became very good at it. Initially, they recruited N,,azi bankers and N,,a,zi loot. Eventually, the Bad Money crowds out the Good Money. Bad Money pays no taxes. Now we have a secret government.

    • Florida Power July 8, 2015 at 8:56 am #

      I believe Fitts worked for Dillon Read and her title was not HUD secretary. She reported to Jack Kemp. I don’t recall if there were trillions of dollars sloshing around HUD without account during her tenure but certainly billions. An episode of The Sopranos dealt with the corruption in this sphere. Unaccounted for “trillions” were mentioned by Rumsfeld at the DOD on September 10, 2001. The next day a very large Boeing airliner was reported to have flown into the section of the Pentagon where the auditors and accountants resided. I say “reported” because there was no airliner wreckage typical of such crashes at the site. Nor so far as I know has any pilot been able to accomplish via simulator the complex aerial maneuver required to position the airliner just so. Maybe some day the Vatican will include this among its catalog of miracles.

      The story of Fitts’ harassment by the FedGov is of importance, as is the imprisonment of Martin Armstrong.

      • malthuss July 8, 2015 at 2:38 pm #

        She was ‘Under Secretary’. She has a web site and many talks on YT.

        • Florida Power July 8, 2015 at 4:45 pm #

          I always catch her interviews, although the story tends to get repetitive after a while. She was the first to open my mind to the reality of the US dollar supported by the US military.

  75. Q. Shtik July 7, 2015 at 9:48 pm #

    Who pays this kind of money for a cup of coffee? – LeoH


    I don’t know, you tell me.

    You are putting down people who buy coffee at SB yet YOU were in line at SB. What am I missing here?

  76. BackRowHeckler July 8, 2015 at 7:51 am #

    I see on the New York news hate crime attacks against Orthodox Jewish people on the streets of Williamsburg, Brooklyn. From the looks of it they appear to be ‘just for fun’, and to gain street cred by filming the attacks and posting them on YouTube. Can you think of anything more reprehensible than that?

    I remember in college reading a wonderful novel ‘Summer in Williamsburg’, by Daniel Fuchs, 1930s fiction of the social realism school to be sure, one that evokes an almost idyllic place during depression times in NYC.

    There are alot of sh-tty places in NY once you get out of Manhattan, but the video of Williamsburg showed tidy streets in a well kept neighborhood.

    Police in NYC have been weakened by DiBlassio’s the anti-law enforcement retoric he used to get elected, and events of last year beginning with Ferguson. Why should the police put themselves out when all they get out of it is loss of their job, and possibly being arrested themselves? Could be in places like Williamsburg the citizens themselves will have to form their own security patrols to protect their people and give them a sense of well being and safety.


    • dannyboy July 8, 2015 at 9:03 am #

      You have insight into the Williamsburg Orthodox Jews. They are organized to fight criminal behavior in the neighborhood. They won’t be filming though.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2015 at 2:42 pm #

        How would a truthful Jews translate “Tob Shibe Goyim Harog”?

        • Q. Shtik July 8, 2015 at 4:08 pm #

          How would a truthful Jews translate “Tob Shibe Goyim Harog”? – Janos


          Well, an accurate translation from Yiddish to English is difficult but basically it means if you have failed to turn off the lights in your house prior to sundown on Friday (the start of the Sabbath) get your Goy neighbor’s kid to do it for you.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2015 at 4:59 pm #

            No, that’s incorrect. Where did you get that from?

        • elysianfield July 9, 2015 at 12:13 pm #

          I googled a translation…I’m sure that “kill” is a metaphor for “commit to active discourse”, or something….

    • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2015 at 2:35 pm #

      My brother lived in N.Y. The Hasidic Jews were famous for sitting on their porches and just watching while Blacks assaulted Whites. No effort to help – not even calling the police. Complete us/them mentality. So don’t feel too bad for them. Remember the Crown Heights affair? Their big rabbi’s car ran over a Black kid and they didn’t even stop.

      They have the right to defend themselves of course. Everyone is going to need to do this as America descends into Africa. Check this out: young Democratic operative butchered in Washington DC, not long after he had gotten on his highest horse about Dylan Roof.


      • malthuss July 8, 2015 at 2:43 pm #

        What of the Obama campaigner [from SF] who was killed in the ‘Lower 9th’ and her hometown paper lied and said she ‘was killed in a robbery’.
        Her body and bicycle lay on the street for hours.
        None of the Blacks called police until well into the day.
        Or perhaps they never called the police.

        Kirsten Brydum, described as a “free spirited community activist” by friends, was apparently shot in the head just for being White, while out campaigning for Mulatto presidential candidate Barack Hussein Obama. [INCOG]

        • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2015 at 3:11 pm #

          I was attacked by a pit bull the other day. I kept my head, quickly interposing my backpack between myself and the brute. Not the first time I’ve had to do this against “man’s best friend”. The brute seemed confused and luckily the owner came and got him. But what if he hadn’t? How long would my trick had worked? I realize I have to arm myself against such beasts. What do mailmen use, any idea? I’ve been thinking of pepper spray, and/or a weapon that uses sound, or perhaps one that uses electricity. Some of these might be valuable against beasts on two legs as well.

          I think I’m going to name a feral Black Cat that I feed, Nigger Man. Lovecraft named one of his cats this. It’s almost completely a mental thing since he doesn’t come when called so I’m not going to be saying, “Here Nigger Man.” I’ve struggled long and hard with this as you can well imagine. I’m only telling you so that it’s not merely a subjective mental victory. After all, as the Rabbis say,God created the Universe because He wanted to tell a story and have someone to tell it to. As the Sacred Hadith (Hadith Qudsi) puts it, “I was a hidden beauty who wanted to be known. So I created the universe.”

          • Q. Shtik July 8, 2015 at 3:33 pm #

            I realize I have to arm myself against such beasts. What do mailmen use, any idea? – Janos


            Glock 33, .357

            Use one of these and you’ll never have a problem with man or beast again.

      • Florida Power July 8, 2015 at 4:55 pm #

        What a freakin’ idiot. Should have paid closer attention to those Spike Lee movies.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2015 at 2:37 pm #

      Is there any part of Connecticut that identifies with Boston and New England?

      Just found out the Anne Coulter is from the Nutmeg State.

      • malthuss July 8, 2015 at 2:56 pm #

        is this him? https://www.facebook.com/kevinforsecretary

        read about ‘Muslims endorse me’.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2015 at 3:16 pm #

          What the hell is his ethnicity? He reminds me Robert Spencer – good English name, total Semitic appearance.

          Not totally against Spencer btw. His Anti-Muslim books are scholarly and he is correct in assessing them as a threat. But neither he nor Pam Geller or any of them will admit to the Jewish role in starting all this. They can’t be ultimately trusted.

          • malthuss July 8, 2015 at 7:56 pm #

            Does he look Russian? Are Russian Jews often short?

      • Q. Shtik July 8, 2015 at 3:36 pm #

        Just found out the Anne Coulter is from the Nutmeg State. – Janos


        From the Nutmeg State? Or is it the Nut State?

  77. marzo@cox.net July 8, 2015 at 11:42 am #

    a nation like Greece or the US can print its own money, without having to relay on a bank, or various creditor, after all where our dollars comes from? Banks don’t printed, the US Treasury, the MINT does.
    Printing money doesn’t cause inflation, but if we all had money printing machines yes that will cause inflation, but we don’t do we?

    • Q. Shtik July 8, 2015 at 12:13 pm #

      after all where our dollars comes from? Banks don’t printed, the US Treasury, the MINT does. Printing money doesn’t cause inflation, – Marzo


      No offense, Marzo, but I have 3 questions:

      1. Is English your first language?
      2. Have you ever taken Econ 101?
      3. Have you been drinking this morning?

      • elysianfield July 9, 2015 at 12:19 pm #

        The classic definition of the cause of inflation is (paraphrased)…”too much money chasing too few goods”.

  78. marzo@cox.net July 8, 2015 at 11:47 am #

    if we woke up tomorrow and all our debts are paid off, the infrastructure has been repaired, would you care where the money came from?
    A nation should’n be run like a business, a nation can run a deficit, because a nation isn’t in the business of making money.
    The US needs more money because it has the largest obligations.

  79. Q. Shtik July 8, 2015 at 11:56 am #

    I doubt Stockman’s grammar was that bad. – hineshammer


    I’ve been reading the Stockman blog for a few months and I see numerous errors like the one you point out. I think he may dictate to some one who makes the screw-ups and then there is no proofreading process — who has the time and money for proofreading these days? … not even the NYT.

    His columns are otherwise so brilliant that I am willing to overlook errors of grammar, spelling, etc. even though the sight of them sets my nerve ends all atingle.

  80. marzo@cox.net July 8, 2015 at 11:57 am #

    politicians would make us believe that the US cannot print its own money to pay for what needs to be paid, or paid off, that if we printed large amounts of money that will cause inflation. That makes absolutely no sense, they are just political scare tactics made up by politicians that don’t understand economy.

  81. Greg Knepp July 8, 2015 at 11:58 am #

    As I write this, trading on the NYSE has been halted, the WSJ website is down and 3,500 planes are grounded – all due to ‘electronic glitches’….interesting, no?

  82. volodya July 8, 2015 at 12:02 pm #

    Yes, that’s VERRRRY interesting: the NYSE suspends trading in all securities according to Bloomberg. No reason given.

    On a lighter note: so Tsipras sends a letter to his EU counterparts saying the mighty and dazzling Hellenic Republic will enact pension and tax reforms. But he didn’t say what these reforms would be.

    Meanwhile, the EU President Donald Tusk is eyeing the clock and saying time’s about up. European Commission President Juncker is saying they have a plan to Grexit Greece.

    Don’t ask me the difference between the EC and the EU. Too tedious. There’s an alphabet soup of bureaucracies neck deep in this total fucking debacle, the ECB, EU, EC, IMF and who knows what else. Plus national governments.

    France and Italy are saying the abundantly obvious, that there’s no hope in hell. So they might as well do a debt forgiveness. Germany says nein.

    France and Italy of course, would be hoping to set a Greek precedent for their own unsustainable debts. What you do for Greece, you do for France and Italy.

    The Germans, being fully aware of these transparent motivations, say NEIN.

    Meanwhile, the Portuguese and Spanish and Slovaks, just to name a few, having suffered mightily through their own austerities, are wondering why are these louts getting the time of day.

    Last night the English language broadcast of DW, laid out the series of Greek bail-outs and debt forgivenesses to date since the 2008 crack-up. Totaled 410 billion euros if memory serves. But I could be wrong on the number. Anyway, this is a German news program so they would likely give the German angle.

    But the point of the DW report remains. The point being, what’s the point? You can give Greece a billion, ten billion, a hundred billion or five hundred billion.

    If past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior, it will all get pissed away.

  83. marzo@cox.net July 8, 2015 at 12:04 pm #

    yes grammar is the greatest challenge that this country is facing.
    and yes I’m also one of its greatest challenges.
    But not really, the greatest threat to our well being are those darn bicyclists out there endangering our lives.
    In particular those NYC bike messengers riding those stupid fixies.

    • Q. Shtik July 8, 2015 at 12:23 pm #

      yes grammar is the greatest challenge that this country is facing. – Marzo


      FINALLY!!!, someone recognizes the truth. ;o)

    • dannyboy July 8, 2015 at 1:57 pm #

      “In particular those NYC bike messengers riding those stupid fixies.”

      Most Brilliant Statement (to date) on CFN, bar none!

      keep ’em comin’

      there’s an observation no one can argue with

      or am i just being naive?

    • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2015 at 3:17 pm #

      Where do you stand on the Golden Dawn?

      • dannyboy July 8, 2015 at 5:52 pm #


        Help me get from: “NYC bike messengers riding those stupid fixies.”

        to: “Where do you stand on the Golden Dawn?”

        using any sort of reason, or logic, or deduction, or is someone hijacking another thread to rant?

        • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2015 at 6:54 pm #

          I was asking Marzo. Notice how my comment is in line with yours, not indented? That means I’m responding to Marzo just like you. And notice how your comment to me is indented and mine to you?

          Try and do better.

          • dannyboy July 8, 2015 at 7:50 pm #

            marzo wrote:
            “But not really, the greatest threat to our well being are those darn bicyclists out there endangering our lives.
            In particular those NYC bike messengers riding those stupid fixies.

            janos responded: “Where do you stand on the Golden Dawn?”

            see what i mean?

  84. Q. Shtik July 8, 2015 at 12:28 pm #

    If this NYSE glitch(?) and resultant trading halt turns out to NOT be simply a technical “glitch”, look out below……… DOW down 200 as we speak.

    CNBC graphic says “no indication of cyber attack.”

    • volodya July 8, 2015 at 1:56 pm #

      Yeah but WSJ, zerohedge and an airline also all suffered “glitches”. Just a coincidence?

      And maybe there’s other “glitches” I don’t know about.

      Whatever it is, maybe they’re trying to keep it quiet. You know, can’t have panic, right?

      • dannyboy July 8, 2015 at 1:59 pm #

        i knew WSJ and zerohedge were up to something together!

        you seein’ what i’m seein’?


        • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2015 at 2:40 pm #

          What about the Shemitah? Are the Wall Street Jews going to forgive themselves again? Tell them about Kol Nidre – all Vows are revoked and of null effect!

          • dannyboy July 8, 2015 at 5:55 pm #


            Help me get from: “i knew WSJ and zerohedge were up to something together!”

            to: “What about the Shemitah? Are the Wall Street Jews going to forgive themselves again? Tell them about Kol Nidre – all Vows are revoked and of null effect!”

            using any sort of reason, or logic, or deduction, or is someone again hijacking yet another thread so as to rant?

            Rant, Rant, Rant on!

          • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2015 at 6:56 pm #

            Do you deny the Jews are influential on Wall St? Many, like our own WPC, are talking about the Shimitah. I just wanted you take. Stop being so negative and paranoid.

          • dannyboy July 8, 2015 at 7:27 pm #


            I understand and appreciate Shimitah. Yes Jews are influential on Wall Street. I know this from 30 years in financial businesses.

            What my Comment reads is: “Help me get from: “i knew WSJ and zerohedge were up to something together!” to: “What about the Shemitah?

            My comment points out that you seize every Comment to shout your Agenda. This is both hijacking and confusing to the thread.

            I can add that your current Comment, so revisionist that you claim you were just being helpful (in order to paint me as being ‘so negative and paranoid’) is more of the same.

      • Q. Shtik July 8, 2015 at 3:42 pm #

        And maybe there’s other “glitches” I don’t know about. – Vol


        Around 11:32AM my dishwasher (Kitchen Aid) stopped working. It started up again when NYSE trading resumed.

        • volodya July 9, 2015 at 10:32 am #

          There you have it. But that’s nothing. You have a REAL issue when the fridge or freezer gives up.

  85. wpa--ccc July 8, 2015 at 2:01 pm #

    “If past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior, it will all get pissed away.” — Volodya

    Greece works harder than Germany. Data from the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development shows that workers in Greece put in an average weekly shift of 42 hours, more than Germans who only manage 35.3 hours..

    The average retirement age in Greece is 57.8 years, not the lowest retirement age in the EU, and close to the average age.

    Greece also forgave German debt, when the Germans were in debt.

    “Piketty: When I hear the Germans say that they maintain a very moral stance about debt and strongly believe that debts must be repaid, then I think: what a huge joke! Germany is the country that has never repaid its debts. It has no standing to lecture other nations.

    …after the war ended in 1945, Germany’s debt amounted to over 200% of its GDP. Ten years later, little of that remained: public debt was less than 20% of GDP. Around the same time, France managed a similarly artful turnaround. We never would have managed this unbelievably fast reduction in debt through the fiscal discipline that we today recommend to Greece… Think about the London Debt Agreement of 1953, where 60% of German foreign debt was cancelled and its internal debts were restructured.”

    Greece is just as responsible, just as moral, just as hardworking as other European countries. Their sin appears to be that they enjoy life more. Read ZORBA THE GREEK.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2015 at 2:58 pm #

      Well said. People are confusing praxis and techne, man and machine or man and instrument. As Confucius said, the Superior Man is not an instrument, but rather an end in himself. Technology and the Economy exist to serve man, not vice versa. So why shouldn’t the Greeks enjoy leisure and social life? Isn’t that what all this is for? If not, what are these things for then?

      Let Ward and Q answer – if they can!

  86. wpa--ccc July 8, 2015 at 2:08 pm #

    The stock market shutting down is just prelude to Elul 29, Sept. 13, 2015 this year. We are in a Shemitah year and economic collapse is coming in September. Today’s stock market shut down was just a preview of coming attractions.

    Elul 29 comes every seven years (Shemitah years) on the Hebrew calendar

    Elul 29 in 2001 was Sept. 17, 2001, the beginning of the economic calamity associated with 9/11 and the lowering of interest rates by the Fed resulting in the collapse of the stock market Sept. 17, 2001

    Elul 29 on the Hebrew calendar in 2008 was Sept. 29, 2008, and marked the next big crash, Sept. 29, 2008.

    Shemitah Signs of the Seven Year Cycle

    1973: Oil shock crash and end of Bretton Woods

    1980: Hard Recession begins

    1987: Stock Market crash

    1994: Bond Market crash

    2001: Stock Market crash and 9/11

    2008: Stock Market crash

    2015: Elul 29 is Sept. 13, 2015. In the spirit of CFN, I predict doom. You have been warned.

  87. wpa--ccc July 8, 2015 at 2:30 pm #

    “DOW down 200 as we speak.” –Q

    DOW down -1.17%
    17,568.39 down -208.52

    NASDAQ down -1.41%
    4,927.12 down -70.33

    S&P500 down -1.33%
    2,053.61 down -27.73

    Just as the World Trade Center was a symbol for Bin Laden, so the NYSE for the Chinese. A Chinese cyberattack on the NYSE would send a message. If China’s economy falls apart, we are next.

    Elul 29 … Sept. 13, 2015

    “Soldado avisado no muere en guerra”


  88. wpa--ccc July 8, 2015 at 2:39 pm #

    Volodya could be a reporter for Die Zeit (or a cafe layabout)

    Die Zeit: Many Germans believe that the Greeks still have not recognized their mistakes and want to continue their free-spending ways.

    Piketty: If we had told you Germans in the 1950s that you have not properly recognized your failures, you would still be repaying your debts. Luckily, we were more intelligent than that.

    Piketty’s point on the cruelty of lending to an indebted nation and then lending them money to pay you back is also particularly strong:

    Die Zeit: Do you believe that we Germans aren’t generous enough?

    Piketty: What are you talking about? Generous? Currently, Germany is profiting from Greece as it extends loans at comparatively high interest rates.

    On German debt hypocrisy:


  89. Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2015 at 2:51 pm #

    The Knights Templar were the Bankers back when because they had castles and swords to defend what was stored within. People would get a receipt for the gold stored. Since transporting gold was laborious and dangerous, people began to use the receipts as money instead of the gold. They (and others throughout history such as the Babylonians, Romans, and Jews) began to notice the pattern of how often people came into take out their gold: not too often once the receipt system was in place, and never everyone all at once. So the temptation became irresistible: to write out and lend out more chits than they actually had gold to cover. The temptation always comes and men always succumb. Needless to say, a strong Government that audits such institutions always needs to be in place.

    Mr Rogers should have covered this on one of his shows. Understanding this is fundamental. Needless to say, I just realized I’ve never seen it discussed here. Is that because everyone know it? Probably not.

    • Greg Knepp July 8, 2015 at 3:07 pm #

      What you have outlined is a brief history of fractional reserve banking – perfectly fine during boom times, not so good now.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2015 at 3:25 pm #

        Why perfectly fine? A lie is a lie and needs to backed up by other lies until finally it all collapses.

        A economy exploding because there’s an undeveloped continent being conquered and colonized by an overcrowded one: a rare occurrence in the history of the world, not to be repeated soon. There’s no reason to institute such a bullshit system because of this. American would have been better if it had grown more slowly and surely. The boom would have been slower and benefited more people – and lasted longer.

        If more money was need to conduct transactions, then another way could have been found. Perhaps basing our currency on gold and silver was a mistake to being with. Many have concluded as much. The social credit system put forward by Douglass and championed by Ezra Pound is a finer system. Is there a 3rd way, where more money could have been circulated while staying on the Gold Standard but without the Lie? I don’t know.

        • Florida Power July 8, 2015 at 6:06 pm #

          Martin Armstrong recently wrote an interesting blog regarding FDR’s gold “confiscation” and dollar devaluation that bears on your question. I think he would call this a third way: a two-tier system in which gold is used in international transactions simultaneously with $FRN used as domestic currency, all within the structure of a gold “standard” where these notes can be redeemed internationally in gold. (Domestically of course following confiscation US citizens could not redeem their notes for gold, but they could redeem their $1 silver certificates for silver, and the coinage remained 90% silver). Jim Willie (recently gone round the bend… hopefully to return someday) has touted much the same concept and predicts its return. The LIE occurs when the government borrows and borrows to finance military adventurism, lavish social programs, pensions and etc: Johnson’s Great Society and Vietnam. The monetary base gets skewed in relation to real GDP. You know the rest of the story: Kennedy is assassinated, silver is removed from the workaday coinage, and by 1971 the French called the USA’s bluff and sent warships to collect standard-priced gold from their redeemed $FRN. Nixon closed the gold window and all currencies floated thereafter. The US military guaranteed the security of Saudi oil and the petrodollar was born. To paraphrase Katherine Austin Fitts, the status of the $US as world reserve currency is today a military question.

          If there is a generally perceived valid relationship between money supply and GDP — in other words, that the government knows what it is doing and people have confidence in government — the system settles domestic transactions and the gold in Ft Knox provides a comfort level for international trade which is not so trusting).

          Greg Hunter’s recent interview with Karl Denninger is worth a listen.

          • malthuss July 8, 2015 at 7:59 pm #

            Has Martin been accurate before. Word has it he is and others are usually wrong in their calls.
            In any case, Gold? Guns? Suicide?

        • Greg Knepp July 8, 2015 at 6:07 pm #

          You’re wrong, a lie is not a lie – it’s all a matter of context.

          A controlled supply of any medium of exchange – salt, gold, silver, coin or paper currency is necessary for an economy (beyond nomadic herding or hunter-gathering) to thrive. In a growing economy, the medium of exchange needs to increase in approximate tandem with the expansion of real wealth.

          Nixon realized the antique nature of the gold standard – as did FDR before him. The lie starts when the supply of the medium of exchange is allowed to exceed the productive capabilities of the host economy. Paper currency lends itself to such odd supply manipulations. The same seems true of computer-based financial systems.

          But the basic premise of fractional reserve banking is – in and of itself – not a lie…merely a tool.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2015 at 6:50 pm #

            So the money supply should be determined by a number of factors such as grain supply, employment, GDP, etc. Why fix it to gold, which is too easily to manipulate? I mean as Yoda said, either do or don’t do. If you’re not going to have a gold/silver based economy, then be rational and make the measuring more broad and accurate. Instead they half assed it – making corruption so much easier. FDR confiscated gold at one point.

  90. dannyboy July 8, 2015 at 4:14 pm #

    Short comment on racism:

    “A lie is a lie and needs to backed up by other lies until finally it all collapses.” – Janos

    • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2015 at 5:02 pm #

      So is it racism to observe that the races differ, some being better at one thing and some another? For example, did you deny that Blacks are better runners? The East Africans for distance and the West for speed? And if you admit this (the obvious), what are Whites better than them at?

      • dannyboy July 8, 2015 at 5:58 pm #

        no, no, and no

        Whites tan better and are easier to see in the dark. Also important qualities.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2015 at 6:46 pm #

          Are Jews White? Mr Kunstler has said they are – and taken me to task for saying that they aren’t. I merely state that it’s polite to call people what they wish to be called – and from what I’ve seen, most Jews can’t stand being thought of as White. Susan Sontag summed up this secular point of view in her “Whites are the cancer of humanity” statement. And if believed that, one can only imagine (if you haven’t studied as I have) what the Conservative and Orthodox believe.

          In any case, Jews invented racism in the person of Trotsky (real name Lev Bronstein). Regardless of the dictionary definition, it’s essentially as smear word, much like Fascism. It means whatever they want or need it to mean on a given day or in a give situation. Your definition of racism being that which causes pain to another is as Gay and Fuzzy as all get out – and thus perfect for a good get.

          • dannyboy July 8, 2015 at 7:09 pm #

            Let’s clear one thing up first. You write: “And if believed that, one can only imagine (if you haven’t studied as I have) what the Conservative and Orthodox believe.” It is important to accept that ‘you haven’t studied as I have’.

            I spent 10 years at University. I have attended the finest schools and have made a life of study. I am the Chairman of an international organization with scholarship in four major centers. I have collected the finest library in my field.

            You, on the other hand rely on Wikipedia and Nazi websites for your study. You misrepresent what you write. You are a dope.

            I’ll get back to you on the remainder of your rant in a separate Comment. I just want to provide you the opportunity to digest what I have said to you. It is a good jumping off point for my response.

          • malthuss July 8, 2015 at 8:03 pm #

            Did you know ‘smear’ is a Tribe term? Smear the bagel.

            Susan Sontag Rosenblatt “Whites are the cancer of humanity”.


          • dannyboy July 8, 2015 at 8:05 pm #

            Some Jews are white. Some Jews are Black.

            Being Jewish is a religion (you know, like Christianity, Islam) and not a Race (like Caucasian, Mongolian).

            I have repeatedly attempted to help you understand this distinction.

            I am called Jewish, White, American, Male. These are each separate classifications.

            I am not Susan Sontag. She is Female. She does not speak for me. You following?

            Lev Bronstein does not speak for Jews. He may have some influence with Trotskyites, you can study that on your own.

            Now to: ” It means whatever they want or need it to mean on a given day or in a give situation.” – I have, again repeatedly, pointed out that this generalization of some “They” does not help. You cannot jump from one single person’s utterance to “They want or need…” There is no reason in that.

            Lastly, my definition cannot ever be Gay. Gay is a sexual preference, but we can see how confused you are on even that

          • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 1:05 am #

            Truth is Truth no matter who says it. And Tob Shibe Goyim Harog still means what it means. You can’t change that nor can you hide behind a bunch of letters after your name.

            You boast of being part of the International Order? It’s evil and it intends the destruction of my race and culture. It has advanced by hiding its murderous intentions and dressing itself in the robes of philanthropy and charity. As Jewish Anthropologist Jared Diamond says, Race doesn’t exist, but Jews do exist – RACIALLY! This reveals the mindset of the modern Orthodox Jew. And yes we know about your designs on East Asia – and how you already intermarrying with them so you look like them and can do the same thing to them that you did to us.

            Gay has come to have a slang meaning of silly, ridiculous, or fatuous. In this sense, much of what you write is gay.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 1:14 am #

          Such snark. Not the respectable answer one would expect from an educated, deeply cultured Internationalist and lover of Mankind and Western Culture. But perhaps it is your true colors underneath the suit and academic robes?

          • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 3:21 pm #

            Buddhist Jews are still Jews. As are agnostic and atheist ones – the large majority apparently. Jews are a people, an ethne, a culture – not a religion at this point. Stop debating the obvious.

            Obviously you guys have fallen into the same contradiction as we have with the Blacks. Black Jews are a radically different ethne and you shouldn’t let them into Israel. But you have and they are wreaking havoc – karmic justice to be sure. You all are beginning to be caught in your own web.

            The real answer would be see that Judaism has national and international/universal aspects – and each should be respected and not used to cancel out the other. Christianity is destroying itself on the very same rocks – far more surely since the universal aspect is far stronger and thus the missionary activity has been so huge.

      • LLPete July 8, 2015 at 8:17 pm #

        American white southerners are better at being fat, stupid and lazy.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 2:15 am #

          That’s not very nice. But Liberalism isn’t, is it?

        • Florida Power July 9, 2015 at 7:11 am #

          Please continue to believe that. And please stay where you are.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 3:24 pm #

            Bravo. The Floridians were famous as ferocious fighters. Tragically, much of your state has been ceded to Latin America and the Caribbean. Any secession movement yet for the North and Panhandle? If not, there should be and will be.

  91. Buck Stud July 8, 2015 at 6:52 pm #

    We all want to discuss the problems of the country but nobody does it more succinctly than Bernie; he truly knocks the lying snot out the GOP in this Senate speech::


    • malthuss July 8, 2015 at 8:04 pm #

      Her is the guy for more Gov.inc and Immigration?

      • malthuss July 8, 2015 at 8:08 pm #

        Fat finger. I meant ‘He’.

  92. malthuss July 8, 2015 at 8:07 pm #

    So the big news today was The Airline, The Chinese Market and Wall Street.

    Any thoughts? Inform me.

    [lets get free of the ‘Janos – Danny’ hate fest].

  93. Q. Shtik July 8, 2015 at 8:56 pm #

    No, that’s incorrect. Where did you get that from? – Janos


    Janos, it never ceases to amaze me that after all our years here together you are STILL unable to detect when I am joking.

    And I thought the turning-off-the-lights bit was very funny and at the same time obviously a joke.

    BTW, almost everything I’ve written today was intended to be funny.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 12:55 am #

      Yes, I give you too much credit. The death of our People is not a joking matter. If you google what the phrase means, you will see that – and know Danny for what he is.

      I’ve done the same thing to you – joked about grammar or finance and gotten you to bite. That’s what you take seriously.

  94. Q. Shtik July 8, 2015 at 10:07 pm #

    Gay is a sexual preference, – dannyboy


    This may be a small point in your overall discussion…… but: I think it is highly inaccurate to describe gay as a sexual “preference.” I think a much better word is “orientation.” It is what it is, sort of like the orientation of earth’s axis to the sun.

    • FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2015 at 6:48 am #

      “..the orientation of earth’s axis to the sun.”

      A very poetic and spiritual comparison of orientation of one man’s dick to another man’s ass.

  95. Pucker July 8, 2015 at 11:46 pm #

    What if the doctors running a mental hospital convinced the patients that the world would come to an end if the big fluctuating number on the sign became small and that if it became too small that they would have to perform human sacrifices to get the number up again?

  96. Pucker July 8, 2015 at 11:51 pm #

    Dmitry Orlov says that half of the people who post comments on his Dooms Day collapse blog have mental problems. That’s actually much better than it looks. I once had a law school professor who basically said that the legal standard for mental incapacity is extremely high because two-thirds of people walking around on the loose out there are absolutely bonkers.

    • michigan_native July 9, 2015 at 2:32 pm #

      The big 3 of the collapse. Dmitry Orlov, James Howard Kunstler, and Richard Heinberg. I was sleep walking into the future, never knowing about the importance of oil or peak oil, thinking the crash of 2008 was just another up and down in an economy too big to fail, and that there would be endless cruising for burgers and endless sunshine and ice cream, titties and beer for life.

      I stumbled into this whole thing when someone posted a link to the “5 stages of collapse” on the energy bulletin (I believe it was Michael Ruppert, that poor guy whom I always thought had a death wish, who posted it first). It was like getting struck by a bolt of lightning.

      Each of the big three has points they make and ways of expressing themselves. Dmitry Orlov’s approach is a straight on, no chaser scare the shit out of people. Brilliant insights and some dark Russian style humor, he is very entertaining to read or listen to when he gives speeches or is interviewed. His approach to the impending collapse is to jump on a sail boat and just avoid the carnage by opting out of what he calls the “iron triangle”. A job, a car, and a house. I think he gets a little frustrated at the way the people are handling the impending disaster (they continue to deny and won’t let go) and by the way the neocons are handling it (trying to provoke Russia, I don’t think to start war per se, but to break it up so as to remove the biggest challenger to the crumbling US empire). So every now and then he seems to lash out at the stupidity of people, I am thinking. The kind of people I am thinking of are truly mentally disturbed are the ones who think this is all orchestrated by some secret “illuminati” with some agenda to control the world by withholding all the cures for cancer, vaccinating people, meteorological and geological manipulation (Elvis and his secret UN army hiding in the Rockies firing off their HAARP weapons, triggering hurricanes, droughts, floods, tsunamis, various diseases and pandemics, acne, bad breath, etc ) and with the help of aliens, are plotting to starve and enslave the human race. Of course, in their minds, global warming is a hoax and they run outside and take all these snapshots of any “unusual” cloud formations and post them on face book (the chemtrail people). Of course, to them, none of this has to do with human activity, human decisions. Others point out various verses in their Bibles to justify their paranoia or try to refute those who profess the hard, cold truth. We did this to ourselves and our planet. (the last part was my opinion(s))

      Then there is James Howard Kunstler, the type of guy that I would have wanted to smoke a bowl with when I used to like getting high. An equally smart assed sense of humor to match Orlov’s dark, sarcastic humor, he offers unique American perspectives and social commentary. He points out and really emphasizes the importance of oil, traces the history of oil, how it is formed, how wars were fought over it, including WWII, and other unique, must read topics. The tragedy of suburbia, how we built all these sprawling roads and freeways to escape the ugliness of the city with this presumption that there would always be cheap or plentiful oil and how when it ends will prove to be the greatest misallocation of resources in the history of the world, and that we will have to start all over in “a world made by hand” (another must read, a fictional account of what living in a post fossil fuel, post industrial world will be like. The book really draws you into that world. Awesome). Additionally, some other ecological facts of grave importance, like how the Gulf Stream works, how nature bites back, The Long Emergency is a must read. (I have Too Much Magic and Witches Of Hebron but haven’t read them yet). I am not sure what his survival plan is, I am guessing to build a self sufficient dwelling in upstate New York and have some ammunition on hand to fend off would be thieves (he seems to have this ‘I don’t want to shoot you, but I will if you make me’ disposition)

      Then there is Richard Heinberg, the college professor who basically starts out with a peak oil for dummies approach. The laws of thermodynamics (everything breaks down over time..entropy), how ecosystems work, and like JHK, the history of fossil fuel use, strategies to maximize energy capture, and the energy returned on energy invested ratio of the putative replacements for fossil fuels (also covered by JHK). The Party Is Over is also a must read, along with The End Of Growth. I have “Peak Everything” but after reading the first few chapters, I realized that we are all pretty much fucked, all of the physical resources, the “food” for endless growth, have peaked or are soon to peak, so we will see nothing but contraction until we come to our senses and like Orlov suggests, focus on a new economy that is built on sustainability and not upon endless growth. From what I have seen, his survival strategy is also to fashion an home self sufficient in food production, etc and hope everyone decides to just get along. So one walks away from Vesuvius, one hopes to cooperate, and the last hopes people will be nice out in sunny California. I pray Heinberg doesn’t live anywhere near LA and that they start to get some rain, as the last I saw the trees are starting to wilt and die out that way because of lack of water.

      So all 3 are great, differing in their approach, but Orlov saw the collapse of the former USSR and its aftermath and has no illusions of how much worse it will be for Americans. I think he feels the need to slap people once in awhile to get them to wake up. He wisely choses to ignore peak oil and global warming denialists, stating that he doesn’t have time to waste on them.

  97. Pucker July 9, 2015 at 12:06 am #

    Today’s Lunch Special:
    4 WINGS………………………………………………………………..7.36
    5 WINGS………………………………………………………………..8.43
    6 WINGS………………………………………………………………..9.23
    7 WINGS……………………………………………………………….10.25
    EXTRA WINGS………………………………………………………1.64
    LIVERS OR GIZZARDS… 1/2LB…………………………….5.29

    • elysianfield July 9, 2015 at 12:41 pm #

      I’ll have four extra wings and a glass of water….

  98. Pucker July 9, 2015 at 12:13 am #

    A Chinese person would probably order 4 individual “Extra Wings” because the total cost of 4 individual wings is $6.56 as compared to the cost of the 4 wing set ($7.36).

    • Q. Shtik July 9, 2015 at 10:41 am #

      Good observation, Puck.

      This reminds me (and no shit, it’s true) after the bars closed (2-3AM) in New Haven, CT I used to go to this diner where the menu had 2 fried eggs for $3.00 and 3 fried eggs for $2.50.

  99. wpa--ccc July 9, 2015 at 2:23 am #

    “Dmitry Orlov says that half of the people who post comments on his Dooms Day collapse blog have mental problems.” — Pucker

    Fortunately, on CFN we have no one with mental problems. The only person I ever suspected was Spider and he/she left a long time ago.

    • Buck Stud July 9, 2015 at 8:24 am #

      Actually “Spider”, “Tegmar”, et al raised some very compelling scenarios that people did not want to contemplate. But by the end of his stay here, he actually had persuaded some to a limited degree–recall Bustin J?

      For example: his contention that automation and the traditional employment paradigm were about to crash into each other, resulting in massive unemployment and thus the need for ‘free salaries and rent’.

      He also asserted that we should build ‘ giant skyscrapers and miles and miles of bridges across the ocean’ just as an antidote to the coming mass mechanization; an antidote that would keep real human beings employed along the lines of an FDR Depression Era work project. The real flaw in his thinking, “goofy” if you will, was his total disregard for nature and environmental impact.

      Yes, ” Spider” had a frenetic delivery, but it would be insanely arrogant to label him/her as mentally disturbed, IMO. On the other hand, perhaps that’s why so many ignored his message: Contemplating “that future” would make just about anyone crazy ( I don’t like heights nor working in the ocean).

      Instead most choose to be “happy idiots working for the legal tender”. Or at least until “Spider Time” rolls around. At which point we will only wish there was a giant skyscraper upon whose beams we could straddle and hang our legs over while eating a workday lunch.

      • beantownbill. July 9, 2015 at 11:55 am #

        You’re forgetting his statements of millions of rocket ships to Mars and building on the sun, among other weird thoughts. I agree with you that he made some good comments too, but if he was for real, he was as crazy as a loon.

        • malthuss July 9, 2015 at 1:57 pm #

          Skyscrapers millions of miles tall – or some crazy stuff like that.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 3:34 pm #

          A semi-paradise would have been possible by now if we had kept our sovereignty and our borders. Two Hundred million people, 90% White and the current technology? Can you imagine it? But the Elite couldn’t stand the idea of sharing and chose another way – one which will lead them to Global Power they hope.

          Your people would have benefitted as much as mine – more because of their higher SES. And Blacks, Hispanics, and East Asians as well. But the Elite can’t stand the idea of a Nation – they want a Techno Medievalism with a vastly lower population crammed into cities. The Countryside will belong to them – and no one hunts in the King’s forest but the King and his friends.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 3:29 pm #

        Quite right. His point about automation was spot on. To say genius is akin to madness is usually an exaggeration. But it does correlate with a certain inner pugnacity. One must psychically destroy before one can create. The confusion is that people see the new vision as madness – and the combativeness of the seer just confirms their prejudice.

    • Q. Shtik July 9, 2015 at 11:14 am #

      Yes, Spider was last seen staring blankly out the foot square wire-meshed back window of a white minivan on whose front doors were lettered in small black font the words Greystone Mental Institution.

      Poor guy, I’m guessing, is sitting cross-legged on the floor of the dayroom in the midst of his own feces, rocking back and forth and humming loudly.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 3:51 pm #

        No he’s meditating on his dirty grey – used to be white – sock as his foot twitches. With every twitch, another White woman bears a mulatto or mestizo baby.

  100. FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2015 at 5:37 am #

    BRICS countries conducting these days summit in Ufa, Russia, make up more than 17% of world trade, 13% of the world market for services, 45% of world agricultural production. The volume of trade between the “five” in 2014 grew by more than 70%. The total volume of GDP of the BRICS has reached 32.5 trillion dollars in 2014, accounting for 30% of global GDP. Behind these dry figures – not just economic strength, but in fact a new geopolitical reality.

    On July 7, 2015, the central banks of the BRICS countries signed an agreement on mutual support of member countries of the Union, creating a pool of conventional foreign exchange reserves: $100 billion, of which $41 billion is pledged by China, $18 billion – Brazil, India and Russia, another $5 billion – South Africa.

    Being formally nominated in dollars, this IMF-analogue aims to increase financial stability using safety mechanisms of recapitalization of the economies of member states. In other words, when the West will try to further reduce the liquidity of the BRICS countries through artificial outflow of capital, they will be able to partially compensate for this using their own funds.

    In fact, this is a movement towards economic sovereignty of non-Western Nations, but so far in terms of the dollar system. The logic is obvious – to reformat the existing world order, it is necessary to gain weight in this world order with the use of existing tools.

    None-Western countries are trying to minimize the risks in terms of transformation and transition of the economic center from the West to the East. By and large, the aim of the BRICS – is gradually seize the initiative from the West, not letting it to disrupt the process, but not blowing up the existing world order with the inevitable cost of huge losses that could bring mankind into a widespread chaos. The world is too closely tied to the dollar, to risk suddenly abandoning it. But what happened on July 7, 2015 is a significant milestone on disposal of financial neo-colonial dependence of the world on the “golden billion”.

    China, Russia and their allies in the BRICS, SCO, EAEC, CSTO and other organizations have gone on the longest and often invisible to a common man, but very reliable and thorough way, which involves gradual creation of a new system within the old. They did not bank on an open challenge to the West in terms of its hegemony, but on the smooth transformation of the western system from the inside, accompanying the natural process of weakening of the West and strengthening the non-West.


    • beantownbill. July 9, 2015 at 12:24 pm #

      The BRICS are not paragons of virtue trying to save the world from the evil Americans. They just want a bigger piece of the wealth and power pie. Imagine a world run by them. Brazil has clear-cut huge portions of the Amazon, endangering the current ecological balance. India is a cesspool of unimaginable refuse. As for China, well, try to walk around Beijing without an air filter, or drink out of any of its rivers.

      Just like we judge an individual by how clean or messy his house is, we can similarly judge a nation. The BRICS will get their share of influence, but in the long run it will not make a difference to the species.

  101. FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2015 at 6:35 am #

    Alexander Zapolskis: Systemic crisis of US military doctrine

    In the past, the United States identified the five main threats to its national security: Ebola, Russia, international terrorism, cyber attacks and global warming. And the army must fight all of them. How exactly the US military could fight the climate changes is not very clear.

    However, apparently, the process is more important than the result. And Ebola has been a year almost unheard of. Either it is in the list of threats by an accident or was not as formidable as it was claimed.

    A few days ago, President Obama spoke that he does not intend to put US ground forces against the Islamic state. “If we’re engaged throughout the Middle East, across North Africa, on our own, it can result in many unpredictable consequences that will make us more vulnerable,” – he explained. In Washington’s view, this issue should be dealt with exclusively by Middle Eastern countries themselves. How so? The United States will become weaker if will be engaged in the liquidation of one of the key threats to its own security? Or is there something else?

    The basis of military development of any country is its military doctrine that describes how its military and political leadership sees the world and sees its trend of change in the future.

    Today, the US has no clear view of the future. The new operational concept of the US Army “Victory in a complex world: 2020-2040” says: “It is not known what will be the environment in which the Army to operate. Enemy is unknown, his whereabouts are unknown. Also, unknown are the composition of active military coalitions.” In other words, the threat to the United States does not stem from any objective processes. They may call the “threat“everything that they want. As a classic: you are guilty just because I am hungry. And Americans are always hungry: their main aim is to preserve American leadership in the world, which they see in the creation of a global system of markets and transnational corporations with the control center in the United States.

    In turn, that leads to a blurring of threats and escalating of a fear as the main motive. If “surrounded by enemies, the only way to fight is becoming a preventive war, which involves the destruction of the enemy, when his attack is not yet inevitable, or they do not even intend to attack. War is regarded as a tool to defeat potential geopolitical and economic competition before they acquire sufficient power to block US dominance in the world.

    It appears that America does not understand what is happening in the world, the connection between their own actions and the consequences. Therein lays the basis for the conviction that the rest of the world only dreams to hit America in the back. As a result its attempts to preempt the enemy eventually become a source of aggression.

    However, the planned budget of US Armed Forces for 490 thousand men for global domination over the world of more than seven billion is not enough. But for all his wealth America cannot afford a larger army. A system error in its military doctrine does not allow them to understand that the main source of threats to the national security of the United States is the consequence of their own foreign policy.

  102. BackRowHeckler July 9, 2015 at 7:25 am #

    China stock market has lost 1/3 of its value in the past month.

    Does it matter?

    Reduced industrial and economic activity in China would most likely mean lower oil prices here, as China imports almost 9 million bpd.

    US markets seem to be holding their own, despite everything (Puerto Rico, China, Greece)

    Some comrades have written that the Chinese equity markets are just a ‘Potemkin Village’, if you will, not real a real ‘market’, a Zombie market, a pyramid scheme, set up to funnel $$$ to the ChiCom Govt. in Beijing.

    Not knowing much about international macro economics, I don’t know how accurate that is.


  103. BackRowHeckler July 9, 2015 at 7:54 am #

    Hey, what do you know, whites are now a minority in California, its official!

    What we have witnessed in the past 20 years is one of the greatest mass migrations in human history!

    Check out the CNBC site today, its all good news, pre market up 150, and sage advice on how to game the collapse in China. Its all good!

  104. Buck Stud July 9, 2015 at 8:04 am #

    I wonder how the GOP establishment is going to muzzle or ignore–keep off of the debate stage–Donald Trump? Because he is not going away. And he is not going away because his views on immigration align with a majority of GOP voters.

    And he’s also not going away because in the latest PPP poll of North Carolina, he leads both Bush and Walker by four percentage points, sixteen to twelve.

    I have a feeling that at the end of the day money will be exchanged and Donald will walk away leaving admiring Janos/Tea Baggers utterly demoralized.

    It’s dirty work but somebody has to do it–Ka Ching.

    • BackRowHeckler July 9, 2015 at 9:24 am #

      Trump doesn’t need any GOP money.

      He’s got plenty of his own.

      The real question is, who’s funding Bernie Sanders? An why is he running as a Democrat when he isn’t a party member, merely caucuses with Dems in the Senate?

      • FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2015 at 10:39 am #

        My theory is Bernie is a Clinton’s spoiler and Trump – Jeb’s, just like Ross Perot circa 1992.

        So, wouldn’t surprise me if Bernie is financed by Bush’s cocaine money, while Trump gets a dose of Afghan heroin.

      • Buck Stud July 9, 2015 at 11:34 am #

        “He’s got plenty of his own.”

        You didn’t listen to the Bernie link above did you? People like Trump never, ever have enough money. You see BRH, you still think like a “Main Street” inhabitant where less than enough is the often the rule, thus projecting that onto the one percent where there is never enough.

        Trump is salivating over a mighty payday soon to come and not only that, but added influence and power.

        • malthuss July 9, 2015 at 2:01 pm #

          How many times has DT declared bankruptcy?
          Remember when Forbes tried to run for president?
          When last heard from he had bought a Greek Isle.

  105. FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2015 at 8:39 am #

    “China stock market has lost 1/3 of its value in the past month.
    Does it matter?” – brh

    As oppose to US Stock Market which is mostly a coordinated play by large financial institutions, hedge funds and the FED, the Chinese stock market is fueled by individual investors who are often illiterate. During the last 70% stock crash in China in 2007, they played mostly with their own money, now the problem is worsen by the fact that Chinese played this time with the borrowed cash. It could severely affect the desire by China to develop the internal market, since instead of buying new Lenovo tablet they will have to pay down their stock market debts.

    As US Stock Market goes, I remain convinced that it will perform pretty well while there still remains available capital elsewhere in the world. When the foreign funds coming to US financial market start to dry up – that will be the time to bring the house of cards down, this time probably, for good. That is what the Greek and European situation is largely about.

    Would be nice to have data on foreign funds entering the US Financial markets – could be a short opportunity of a lifetime.

    • beantownbill. July 9, 2015 at 12:40 pm #

      I’ve said several times on this blog that I wasn’t concerned,about China, they were doomed. It’s simply a matter of population numbers. You just can’t have so many people in the land area they have. There’s 4 of them for every American in an area roughly the size of America. And we have enough of our own issues with the size of our population.

      • FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2015 at 12:53 pm #

        Sure, they are doomed…for the last 3 or 4 thousand years….

        • malthuss July 9, 2015 at 2:07 pm #

          No, they are in trouble with 1.5? billion people.
          That is why Africa looks like ‘New China’.

        • beantownbill. July 9, 2015 at 2:11 pm #

          When I say doomed, I mean in the sense of an economic powerhouse.

      • Q. Shtik July 9, 2015 at 2:14 pm #

        Parts of NJ are more densely populated than Calcutta.

        • malthuss July 9, 2015 at 8:07 pm #

          Parts of NJ are fulla Hindus and Pakis.

          Camden is ‘yr kinda place’ [proves yr points].

  106. barbisbest July 9, 2015 at 10:51 am #

    Uh oh Spaghettio. Little technological glitch at NYSE hereabouts. Think we’re too dependent on technology. Hmmm. Maybe.

    And yet, there are honeybees on the clover in the yard that weren’t there the past few summers! C.S. Lewis said “no creature is ever loved as it deserves.” (Especially not the honeybee.)

    Morgan Freeman turned his 200 acre farm into a honeybee and tree sanctuary. Maybe he loves the honeybee. He was a slave owner there in the 19th century.

    • barbisbest July 9, 2015 at 10:54 am #

      Morgan Freeman’s 200 acre farm is in Mississippi.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 2:47 pm #

      Was Bill Cosby loved as he should be? For all we know, Morgan Freeman is another Bill Cosby. You “naturally” love him because he has been portrayed as a wise man in the movies again and again.

      A lovely quote btw, if used judiciously when applied to people.

  107. michigan_native July 9, 2015 at 11:18 am #

    So let’s see what’s really going on in the world. The Greeks telling the IMF to go fuck itself. The jubilation over this will likely be short lived, they will offer to cook Greece medium rare initially instead of well done because Washington needs its vassal states and the whores and bitch boys that “lead” their country (Merkel, Hollande, that consummate asshole Cameron and that other jack ass Abbott, as well as the puppet of Canada and other assorted pigs, swine, and festering turds) to try to break apart Putin and Russia because they are the only ones with balls enough to stand up to the neocons and their hegemony. Without the IMF, which the west uses to loot other countries, and NATO, a mercenary army to do the dirty work for the US neocons when yet another direct military intervention by the US would start to prove to the world who the real bad guys are, is too much to lose. So Germany will give in just enough to allow the people of Greece to incur first and second degree burns at first. How this will play out when the parasites wish to extract their pound of flesh from Italy, Portugal, Spain, etc will be interesting but the neocons will pressure the bitch boys and puppet regimes in the countries in question into giving up a little so the US can keep a lot.

    NATO stooges staging drills near the Russian border, various swine like Cameron regurgitate the utter lie that Russia has some ambition to reclaim their empire including those perogie munching drunks,pig farmers, retards, losers, and prostitutes in that basket case of a country called the Ukraine. The neo-Nazis have violated cease fire after cease fire agreements, and those pigs Merkel and Hollande as well as that slut Victoria Nuland remain silent about the carnage. All in some vain, futile effort to convince Russia that the US intends to attack and with reluctant European dupes imposing sanctions, try to break down the Russian Federation so the US can maintain its hegemony. The Russian people know exactly what is going on and Putin’s approval rating is at a staggering 89%. Why he doesn’t shut off the gas to NATO countries……well I think he knows the neocon house of cards is about to collapse and is choosing to wait it out.

    Obama insists he wishes to reach some peaceful solution to the “Iranian crisis”. Like anyone can trust anything any of these neocons say anymore. “Change we can believe in”. Remember that one? The check is in the mail. I won’t cum in your mouth. If Hitlery Clinton or that son of a Bush doesn’t find some false pretext to either invade or bomb that country into the stone age, when oil starts to become real scarce in the near future and Iran continues to insist on exercising its free will to sell their crude to China or Russia (for grain), you can rest assured that some false flag event will occur and the US will need to “liberate” Iran. Of course, our ever so faithful bitch boys in the UK will do whatever we tell them to do and send their boys over to kill and be killed, be exposed to uranium depleted munitions, etc

    The Republican candidates. Again, I am reminded of Frank Zappa when he announced to the audience “this is dedicated to all you republicans out there” and launched into his song titled “cock sucker’s ball”. Donald ‘needs to get punched in the mouth’ Trump and finally stuck his foot in his mouth, spouting off with racist remarks about Mexicans. Apparently he thinks because he is (presently) wealthy, he can go around and talk shit to people anytime he wants. Of course, his popularity ratings sored in the good old south, where the people have nose mining habits and drooling problems from too much inbreeding. They talk about that flag being part of their heritage. Yes, your institution of slavery and the hundreds of thousands of lives that were lost, and the shot gun, hound dog, and Hee Haw types are proud of that and want to flaunt it. Fine with me. Make yourselves human targets when the race wars heat up when Jeb Bush (“americans need to work longer hours”, “we need to make the world start to fear the US again) gets the wishes of racist America to cut and slash food assistance, social programs, and safety nets. Tens of millions of people who already see themselves as victims of growing racial genocide and now have nothing left to lose. Good luck trying to deflect the bullets and knives with that confederate rag. The designer of that flag was quoted as saying in 1863 about some God ordained something or other about the superiority of white society (I can get the link and the exact quote if any of the Jethro types from the Beverly Hillbillies dispute this).

    So there we have it. A rotten, vile, evil, corrupt empire in its final stages, trying to resort to threats, sanctions, deceit, violence, and warfare in a vain and undignified effort to save itself. The scape goating has begun. Illegal immigrants. The Russians. Minorities. And people who receive “entitlements” like medicare, social security, and veteran’s benefits, now a favorite target for all of the mean spirited right wingers who falsely blame these “privileges” for bankrupting the country. Toss in those Halliburton FEMA camps located near railroad tracks and airports and you begin to see where this is heading.

    One wrong mistake on either side could trigger WWIII.

    • volodya July 9, 2015 at 12:42 pm #

      When the vile, rotten, corrupt empire does the Roman thing and collapses, something will take its place. Never fails, someone with a gun (and with a bunch of guys following him with guns) will say “I’m the new Boss”.

      The question is will the new boss be any better than the old boss?

      The Archdruid thinks that if history is any guide the new bosses will at least charge less than the old bosses for their – ahem – “services”. I guess we’ll find out.

      • michigan_native July 9, 2015 at 2:43 pm #

        I suspect it will be some form of neo feudalism, and no, the new boss won’t be any better than the old boss, unless we have enough weapons to decapitate the new boss so we have minimal or no government at all. Let us hope…

        • michigan_native July 9, 2015 at 8:15 pm #

          And after being offline to enjoy a few moments in my flower gardens in the backyard to appreciate what is left of beauty, I came back to escape the reality of entering the insane asylum (called going to work and taking care of sick, dying, injured, crippled, or disabled people and all the abuses that go with it, mostly from the government which tries to “regulate” healthcare, I see this article first thing on my face book account. http://rt.com/business/272617-greece-debt-eu-imf/

          Sure enough, the neocons are yapping about the “dangers” to the economy if the krauts and the EU doesn’t back off. Just as I thought, they will bend over, hand the vasoline jar to the neocon slave drivers back here, and take it up the ass whenever Uncle Sam orders his bitch boys to do. We see the extent to which Germany is controlled, and has no reason to be proud as they are obviously a vassal state of the US, the neocons, and their IMF as well. I am glad for the Greeks, that they will get those fuckers to back off, at least for awhile, but in only staves off the inevitable for so long. The world is watching, the clock is ticking.

          • michigan_native July 9, 2015 at 8:31 pm #

            And now you have the Neanderthals in the US military calling Russia ‘the greatest threat to US national security”. http://rt.com/usa/272752-dunford-james-threat-russia/

            Tis amazing how they view threats to the empire and their hegemony thousands of miles away as threats to our ‘national security’. Kinda like “defending democracy abroad” before it, nobody ever questions the idiocy of such remarks but are brainwashed in some Orwellian society into blindly accepting it.

  108. barbisbest July 9, 2015 at 11:47 am #

    Here’s a perspective. Consider this, because the problems seem so insurmountable and struggling for our survival consumes so much of our time and energy, we view ourselves as victims rather than embrace the power within us to change our reality.

    we exist in a failed paradigm.It has failed us. It has failed human development. It has failed social development. It has failed everything that is needed to sustain human life.

    To change a paradigm, perhaps we should ask ourselves three questions that are philosophic. What does it mean to be human? How do we know? How shall we live? Maybe we should reject scientific rationalism (based on Cartesian mind-body dichotomy) which recognizes only that which can be measured and thereby rejects the knowledge that comes from the heart. It means we must be able to see with our hearts and not only with our eyes.

    • sprawlcapital July 9, 2015 at 7:04 pm #


      First, I have to state that I often think that sustaining human life may be the problem–no species that I know of–other than Homo sapiens– goes around destroying planets.

      You write:

      Maybe we should reject scientific rationalism (based on Cartesian mind-body dichotomy) which recognizes only that which can be measured and thereby rejects the knowledge that comes from the heart. It means we must be able to see with our hearts and not only with our eyes.

      Precisely. How could anyone who sees with their heart do this: genetically engineer crop plants and then release them into the environment? What it means is that genes from unrelated organisms have been engineered into the genomes of crops like corn and soybeans to make new life forms. Thousands of square miles of what ought to be considered sacred Iowa soil have been planted with these crops, making my home state probably the most genetically-engineered place on Earth.

      The engineered organisms are called GMOs, genetically modified organisms. They are not the same as ordinary hybrids, which are produced by conventional breeding, not by genetic engineering.

      Only extreme scientific rationalism, powered by corporate greed and sustained by public ignorance and apathy (and massive doses of Soma*) could have dropped us into this Brave New World.

      *antidepressants like Zoloft, Paxil, and Prozac

  109. volodya July 9, 2015 at 11:52 am #

    Draghi says a solution will be hard to find. So we’ve gone from “believe me” to “blow me”.

    What have we learned? Lesson one is that any society aspiring to sharing the Euro with Germany or, in more general terms, to first-world statehood, has to aspire to more than eat, shit, sleep and fornicate. Don’t get me wrong, these things are enjoyable. And understandable for the exhausted peasant who just wants some of the simpler pleasures. But, if you want to use the Euro, you need to up your game.

  110. nsa July 9, 2015 at 11:56 am #

    The Census Bureau has finally confirmed the obvious……there are more “latinos” than whites in California. If you count all the illegals, this happened many years ago, of course. Their explanation (extreme fecundity) and not border jumping. The result: suppressed wages for blue collar whites and especially the lazy afros, expanding ghettos, rampant crime, black tar heroin epidemic, TB and polio, overused welfare and medical systems, clogged jails, and cities coming to resemble turd world cesspools like Mex City. Drug gangs have taken over whole towns like Indio and Calexico….stop to get gas and you see the mindless murderous creeps with their bad expansive jailhouse tattoos and seriously rotten demeanors…..and the fat wives and endless ninos everywhere. Texas, New Mexico, Arizona are not far behind. It is now too late….La Raza has taken back the southwest……if you are white, move out.

    • BackRowHeckler July 9, 2015 at 12:59 pm #

      And go where?

      Have you seen the new HUD rules going into effect today?

      Housing Projects for every little town, spreading the joys of the ghetto to the few places that still remain remotely civilized.

      Don’t say go to Idaho or Montana, as that’s where tens of thousands of Syrians and Sudanese tribesmen are scheduled to be dumped in the next year or two.

      All you soccer moms who voted for this back in 08 …

      How do you like it now, Ladies?


      • malthuss July 9, 2015 at 2:04 pm #

        Wuz listening to AM [Rush?] awhile ago and heard what I consider ALARMING.

        ‘Half million illegal Mexicans in NYC’.

  111. volodya July 9, 2015 at 12:36 pm #

    Hilarious, the Wall Street-Washington revolving door again. According to zerohedge Eric Holder lands back at his old Wall Street legal firm.

    Oh, but don’t worry, Mary Jo White is on the case. Mary Jo who made a good living defending Wall Street banks is now their regulator as head of the SEC. They say that Mary Jo’s office is where Dodd Frank went to die. Yes, she’s tirelessly burrowing line- by-line into it. You’ll never see it again in your lifetime.

    The wheels of justice grind exceeding slow especially with Wall Street lawyers turning the crank.

    • volodya July 9, 2015 at 12:52 pm #

      That was David Stockman’s site where I read it, not zerohedge. And the article was published in Rolling Stone.

  112. FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2015 at 12:43 pm #

    Three news:

    1. The export of gas from Russia to Germany in the early days of the current month exceeds the same period of last year by almost 30%. That was reported by the head of “Gazprom” Alexey Miller at the working meeting. There is a suspicion that Germany is trying to insure itself against problems with the Ukrainian transit and is insuring up to 30% more active than last year.

    2. The gas pipeline “Nord Stream” of 55 billion cubic meters capacity since the beginning of July operates at 94% load. This was reported by Deputy National Energy Security Fund (NESF) Alex Grivach.
    The expert explained that according to the calculations NESF NEL onshore removal of “Nord Stream” is now loaded at 125%, which is above the design capacity by 25%. Earlier the gas pipeline was loaded only by 75% taking into account the restrictions on the use imposed by European Commission on OPAL facilities.

    There is strong suspicion that Germany expects problems with Ukrainian transit. To achieve pipeline load beyond the limits exposed by the European regulator, is very, very complex problem whose solution requires enormous political resources and very serious motivation.

    3. Yesterday, at a meeting in Berlin, the head of “Gazprom” Alexei Miller and Minister of Economy and Energy, Germany, Sigmar Gabriel discussed the construction of the pipeline “Nord Stream II”. The parties stressed the importance of creating new direct routes of Russian gas supplies to Europe amid falling production in the European countries, reported the press service of “Gazprom”.

    The forecast on the fact that the “Nord Stream 2” will not have political problems in Germany – is confirmed. It is evident that the preparation is a radical solution to the problem of Ukrainian transit. Rapid pumping into the European storage – is a temporary solution, and (unfortunately) a partial and “Nord Stream 2” – a radical and permanent.

    The conclusion can be formulated as a formula: “Without the pipe, Ukraine is in a hole”

    Of course, there is an irony in the situation: it turns out that the Ukrainians were jumping on Maidan and making their stupid revolution for the sake of the entire gas transit to Europe went to the Germans.


  113. BackRowHeckler July 9, 2015 at 1:16 pm #

    Yeah, all the suburban soccer moms down at Starbucks, Volvos in the parking lot with Obama/Biden bumper stickers, dressed like a lacrosse match is gonna break out any minute … what a surprise, a housing project going in down the street, 1000 units, bringing people in from Hartford, Bridgeport, New Haven, well maybe it won’t be so bad, after all we made that donation to the Amistad Project … no longer will blond haired, 8 year old Brittany be able to play out in the front yard with her dolls, what with pit bulls roaming the street, bullets flying, and Homey cruising town with his posse in his Escalade with chrome plated wheels, ‘GhostfaceKillah’ blasting from the stereo, and you realize little Brittany has kind of a pale face under that blond shock of hair …

    Hope and change has taken on a whole new meaning, Huh Mrs. Soccer Mom?


    • malthuss July 9, 2015 at 2:05 pm #

      1000 suction 8 units.

      HUD is busy ruining USA.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 3:11 pm #

      Well said. The takeover of America by Pit bulls is indicative of the brutalization of White America, a succumbing to the Thug Culture glamorized by the media. For many of these people, dogs are synonomous with pit bulls – they would never consider having another breed.

      I was attacked the other day. Letting these monsters run free is just as if the family was target practicing off their porch as I walked by. Or like driving drunk or high. A pit bull is a weapon just like a gun or a car – and not something you can be irresponsible with.

      There are threads of the internet that go on for weeks and run to over a thousand entries; pit bull owners denying that pit bulls are anymore likely to attack people than any other kind of dog, statistics be damned. Eerily like people’s refusal to admit the truth about minority crime. And also like the lower class’s willingness to admit their children are criminals or did anything wrong to someone. Pit bulls are often nice dogs and make good pets – for the family that owns them. The same dog will often present a very different face to outsiders. Being narcissists, such people can’t take the perspective of anyone but themselves.

      • BackRowHeckler July 9, 2015 at 3:23 pm #

        We call them land alligators.

        Recently out in Eastern CT two of them tore a woman apart, and ate her, a nurse contracted by the state to provide elderly home care.


        • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 3:40 pm #

          Does Eastern CT identify with Boston? Or is all of CT “Yankees” territory?

          Land gators – it fits.

        • malthuss July 9, 2015 at 8:09 pm #

          Link, please.

      • Buck Stud July 9, 2015 at 6:44 pm #

        Funny you should mention pit bulls. Just last week an acquaintance finally convinced me to come over and meet “Riddick” the most massive pit bull I have ever seen. When I first drove into his driveway Riddick amiably strolled up to the truck and jumped up and levered himself on the half open driver side window in order to pull himself up into the cab. Of course the owner was reassuring me that he was friendly and finally he wandered over to one of the brush pine bushes and began effortlessly yanking and severing branches.

        But that was not the ‘main event’. After I became comfortable enough to get out and go inside his house he led me out to the back yard where he had a rope with a larger knot hanging about six feet above the ground. From a stand still position immediately under the rope, Riddick leaped up and bit the knot of the rope and then hung on for what seemed like minutes and all the while his body jerked and quivered in response to his jaws turning side to side. Simply put, this was one bad-ass dog but seemingly very friendly and non aggressive. But if Riddick ever ‘turned’ and bit someone it would be very tragic indeed.

        I know what you mean about those internet forum pit bull debates. I recently read one on coyotes vs. pit bulls and of course the pit bull owners were photo shopping images of their dogs which looked like they were fed some sort of canine steroids. In short, the consensus was that no scrawny coyote is going to beat a muscle bound pit bull.

      • sprawlcapital July 9, 2015 at 7:33 pm #


        Good observations about these land alligators.

        You write:

        . . . pit bull owners denying that pit bulls are anymore [any more] likely to attack people than any other kind of dog,
        Anymore is an adverb: He does not live in the ghetto anymore.

        Any more is an adjective (more) modified by an adverb (any). The US does not have any more grain to sell to Russia.

        There are hundreds, maybe thousand of these two-word combinations in English that have very different meanings spelled together or separately.

        Every day; everyday. I wear this shirt every day. It is my everyday shirt.

        • sprawlcapital July 9, 2015 at 7:37 pm #

          I wear this shirt every day.

          Yes, I use world-class deodorant.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 7:49 pm #

          Points taken. Keep it up and you make be able to take Q’s place as State Grammarian.

          • Q. Shtik July 9, 2015 at 9:11 pm #

            Sprawl wins hands down. He understands what is right or wrong grammar-wise while with me it is only by way of intuition.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 9:51 pm #

            Yes, good stuff. I can’t remember ever hearing the relationship between adjectives and adverbs being taught. Maybe I was dreaming of White Nationalism that day…

            I hate everyday people every day. I can’t take any more everyday people every day anymore.

          • sprawlcapital July 10, 2015 at 9:23 pm #

            Thanks for the supportive remarks,Q and Janos.

            Janos wrote:
            I hate everyday people every day. I can’t take any more everyday people every day anymore.
            An impressive application of the grammar principles. I won’t have to write about those specific word combinations anymore. There are a lot [not alot] of others, though.

      • elysianfield July 10, 2015 at 11:27 am #

        Regarding the Pit bulls. In the ancient past, when I lived in a ghetto city, whose name would be immediately familiar to all should I mention it, a dangerous dog was considered a status symbol to those residents below the poverty line. At the time, in the late 60’s, the dog of choice was the German Shepherd(Alsatian)…several years later came the Doberman Pincher, a number of years later the Rottweiler, and now, currently the Pit bull. These status symbols, over the years, were common on the streets, and were often trained or abused to be made vicious.

        • Q. Shtik July 10, 2015 at 11:55 am #

          when I lived in a ghetto city, whose name would be immediately familiar to all should I mention it, – elysian


          Aw come on:


          • elysianfield July 11, 2015 at 1:10 am #

            Oakland California.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 10, 2015 at 2:33 pm #

          Well the guy did apologize. I guess that’s something. I didn’t accept it though, giving him a look of contempt I stalked away. What was I supposed to say, “It’s alright”? It wasn’t. But I wasn’t going to give the guy a piece of my mind while he was holding the brute and the other one was circling around someplace. Just get away and not walk past there again.

          Yeah I kind of knew that. Given the Socio-Economic facts, if I had spoken, I bet the guy would have quickly gotten defensive, inwardly considering me a punk for walking to begin with and wondering why I was walking down a street that I didn’t live on. Maybe it was just a freak occurrence. Or maybe he likes to live like him and his family are out in the woods all by themselves and they don’t have to keep their dogs tied up. Anyway, again I didn’t get any sense the dogs were sicced on me and he did apologize. That’s a little something I guess.

  114. wpa--ccc July 9, 2015 at 2:16 pm #

    “no longer will blond haired, 8 year old Brittany be able to play out in the front yard with her dolls, what with pit bulls roaming the street, bullets flying, and Homey cruising town with his posse in his Escalade with chrome plated wheels, ‘GhostfaceKillah’ blasting from the stereo, and you realize little Brittany has kind of a pale face under that blond shock of hair …” — brh


    brh, do not underestimate the power of white culture, a strong influence that will cause those pit bulls to be exchanged for poodles. Those gang members will begin to listen to classical music, or country music, at a polite volume level. Crime will disappear. Unkind words will never be heard. The tatoos will be removed, suits and ties and straight neatly cut hair will become the norm.

    How fortunate those 1,000 families who can escape the hell of civil war in the minority urban ghetto! Now they will be able to transform into model citizens, complete with Emily Post manners, thanks to the influence of little Brittany and her soccer mom, who will tutor the heathens in the superior civilized ways of white culture. \sarcasm off

    • Florida Power July 9, 2015 at 5:00 pm #

      Aw, c’mon WPA. Is Ghostface Killah the equal of Vivaldi? What would you choose?

      Back in the day as our host pointed out long ago men wore hats, coats, and ties and you heard the words “sir” or “ma’am” as opposed to ghetto clown attire and the ubiquitous mutha-fucka. If TSHTF this time there won’t be even that sliver of civilized behavior. And this will be true also for those poor unfortunates who have the bad luck to have been born into the ghetto culture and who are aware of their bad luck and seek a way out.

      Pardon me if I just insulted your attire and vocabulary.

  115. barbisbest July 9, 2015 at 2:40 pm #

    This just in. Kaitlyn Jenner to receive Arthur Ashe award for courage on National TV. Is there LEAD in the water around the big apple or what??!! Seriously??!?!? WTF, this civilization has gone totally ape shit!!! There are children working in tobacco fields folks. How many soldiers are dying still. Have we nothing better to focus on that this transgender thing. Mark Spitz never went over. He’s the only olympian that mattered anyway. (He could do the butterfly stroke) Totally mad I tell you, totally mad!!! Now there is no doubt whatsoever.

    • BackRowHeckler July 9, 2015 at 2:59 pm #

      ESPN is right down the road here, giving out that coveted award.

    • barbisbest July 9, 2015 at 3:07 pm #

      A retraction on that lead in the water in the Big Apple. I meant to say lead in the water in most of this country. No doubt now, when Kaitlyn Jenner is getting an award for courage. WTF.

      • sprawlcapital July 9, 2015 at 7:53 pm #

        Say, who needs lead when you have doctors dispensing drugs that are just as good at lowering IQ: Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft and the rest. We should start calling ourselves America the Sedated.

  116. nsa July 9, 2015 at 2:46 pm #

    You take a barrel of apples and dump in a few rotten section 8 apples and you know what you end up with? Right…a whole barrel of rotten apples. In Seattle the do-gooders are stuffing dark rotten apples into $2300/month eastside section 8s with swimming pools……..

    • BackRowHeckler July 9, 2015 at 3:11 pm #

      Who’s paying the $2300 rent?

      Some government agency or another?

      I’m not going to assume the people living in those places are actually paying their own way, that would be pretty naive of me, huh?


  117. Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 2:57 pm #

    Jeh Johnson and other immigration officials have been ordered to appear before Judge Henan – personally. Very rare. Apparently, these fine gentleman didn’t stop issuing green cards to illegals when ordered to. They apologized and then kept doing it. They were told to stop again. They apologized, said it was a mistake – and then kept doing it!


    The Enemy isn’t thousands of miles away. He is right here – in the highest offices of the land. Is it too late to stop them? In all probability unless a Great Leader arises and takes control – even imposing emergency conditions for a time. Are you outraged at such Fascism? You shouldn’t be – the People you vote for are planning exactly the same thing – and their motives are demonstrably evil as per the illegal invasion. If someone like Trump were to do it, it’s just possible his motives might be more or less pure. Remember George Washington: the European Elite all snickered and said, Ah, we have a new Royal Family. They were shaken to their core when he stepped down.

    I admit that the whole Trump candidacy might be a play by the self same Elite to sucker us. But we know for sure that the current Elite and the Agenda are utterly evil, and we have no other choice at this point. We’ve already been played and are in desperate straits.

  118. barbisbest July 9, 2015 at 3:09 pm #

    A retraction on that lead in the water in the Big Apple, meant to say lead in the water in most of this country. It’s official. Kaitlyn Jenner getting an award for courage. WTF.

  119. FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2015 at 3:58 pm #

    “When I say (china) doomed, I mean in the sense of an economic powerhouse” — beantownbill

    The economic power of Beijing spreads with surprising speed. From mid-June the oldest financial institution of China (founded in 1912) – Bank of China Ltd – officially joined the London gold fixing, the daily mechanism for determination of the price of gold, which operates since 1919 on the initiative of the British banker Nathan Rothschild.

    Jim Rickards is confident that the dollar will end when China has just unveiled the real gold reserves, which are stored in the cellars of its foreign exchange regulator. While all the data remains on the level of rumors. So, the portal Goldseek.com said, citing the head of the Association of China Zhang Bingnana gold that Chinese reserves are at 9,816 tons. This is a huge figure, exceeding even the alleged provisions of the US Treasury of 8,134 tons. It is obvious that in the medium term no one will confirm it, but did not deny either. At the official level China refrained from any comments.

    Beijing does not intend to rest on its laurels: in the queue to join the elite pool is the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China. There are many reasons for expansion: China plans to put the yuan to the pool of foreign exchange reserves of the International Monetary Fund, surpassing the dollar, euro, pound and yen. Therefore, emphasis is to remain the largest buyer of gold bullion. “The Chinese want to be on top of all branches of international trade. Therefore, they tend to seek representation in places where prices are formed, “- quoted Bloomberg executive director of Sharps Pixley Ltd Ross Norman. That is, the London gold market, as the world’s largest trading platform in the industry (in April bullion sold for a total of $20.2 billion), turns to be China’s trampoline, which will allow the yuan to weaken the dollar in the future, and related with dollar currency system.

    The world order is crumbling faster than you think, and the cracks are visible in the new balance of power, there are more and more often. Who will come to the finish line first? This we know only a couple of years.

    • beantownbill. July 9, 2015 at 5:05 pm #

      This is what I see:

      China’s rivers are polluted – so how viable is their potable water supply?

      Their food growing operation is vulnerable. How much do they import? To become a superpower, a country must grow all their own food. Who cares about the amount of gold one has if one can’t eat well?

      Their literacy rate must be less,than the first world countries. They have hundreds of millions of illiterate people. You can’t be at the top of the country-heap if a large percentage of your citizens don’t read and write.

      China is the world leader in manufacturing junk, cheap and unnecessary products. The US couldn’t care less to bother to make this stuff, so it offshored the manufacturing. What important or necessary products does China make? If the world economy goes down the toilet, China’s markets do too.

      Bottom line: the US may fall, but if it does, it will drag the rest of the world along with it, including China.

      Note: If food production goes down, it will be used a weapon. China is vulnerable

  120. wpa--ccc July 9, 2015 at 4:21 pm #

    “The Enemy isn’t thousands of miles away. He is right here – in the highest offices of the land.” –Janos

    Janos, the Enemy is even closer. Look again.

    “Your worst enemy
    cannot harm you as much
    as your own unguarded thoughts.”
    — Buddha

    • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 7:45 pm #

      Indeed. A Nation usually falls from within before it falls from without. Imagine America taken down by Mexico! Only because Whites become mentally ill Liberals first.

      • malthuss July 10, 2015 at 12:55 am #

        There is an online publication, ‘LA Weekly’.
        Check the cover story about a ‘Young American in Israel’.

  121. wpa--ccc July 9, 2015 at 5:25 pm #

    “Toss in those Halliburton FEMA camps located near railroad tracks and airports…” –MichiganNative

    Don’t forget the Walmarts all connected by Homeland Security/NSA underground tunnels.

    Iluminati yourself: Wal Mart = Mart(ial) laW … the tunnels built by the US Military were tried out during Jade Helm 15. \sarcasm off


    “Who will come to the finish line first?” –Finca

    Let me guess, based on reading a year’s worth of your posts: Russia.

  122. beantownbill. July 9, 2015 at 5:32 pm #

    Everyone, especially Marlin, FYI, I read this morning that the state of Oregon passed a statute allowing 15 year olds to get a sex change operation without the consent of their parents. In addition, the state Medicaid will pay for the operations.

    We live in a strange world, yes we do.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 9:10 pm #

      Four year old is making the transition – with a little help from Parent 1 and Parent 2. Mother and Father is already forbidden to use in France. It will soon be seen as “dirty”….


      • malthuss July 10, 2015 at 12:44 pm #


        He didnt look British at all.

        Its sad and yet comical that at his Facebook page [or one of them] he talks about the help from Muslim students he got – while in college running for some office.

        Jewish Federation of Greater Hartford Names New NextGen …
        Sep 8, 2014 – Kevin Sutherland volunteered and later interned for Rep. blablabla

        good article at Ambrose Kane.

  123. FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2015 at 7:20 pm #

    “Who’s paying the $2300 rent?

    Some government agency or another?

    I’m not going to assume the people living in those places are actually paying their own way, that would be pretty naive of me, huh?” brh

    Hey, brh, special for you. When I lived in Chicago, the best plush Section 8 apartments were on the Golden Mile of Lake Shore Drive. A small (coupla big ones cash) bribe to the right person in Chicago Housing Authority would get you there, courtesy of tax-paying suckers.

    The best part, however, was that the Section 8 residents were actually getting paid for living there, due to some government paperwork recalculation of the rent, there were reimbursed for living in a pretty good apartment that normally went back then (in the 90s) for $1700+ a month. It was a small amount, not enough to buy you a can of good Russian Beluga(black caviar), but still…

    • FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2015 at 7:25 pm #

      Sorry, just fucking with you. I personally never been on the gobement’ dime, may be coupla times on unemployment check during the rough 2000s.

      • sprawlcapital July 10, 2015 at 9:09 pm #

        Finca writes:

        I personally never been on the gobement’

        Ronald Reagan liked to pronounce it “gubmint”

        As I recall, that’s also how Mark Twain spelled it when Huckleberry Finn’s father was ranting about government in the eponymous novel.

  124. FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2015 at 7:37 pm #

    “Their food growing operation is vulnerable. How much do they import? To become a superpower, a country must grow all their own food. Who cares about the amount of gold one has if one can’t eat well?” — beantownbill

    What’s wrong with you, people? Enough of childish emotions, already.

    Facts, please, references, por favor!

    • beantownbill. July 9, 2015 at 8:54 pm #

      Sigh. you are pretty computer literate, so I shouldn’t have to do your work for you. If you deny my claims about China, it’s up to YOU to disprove them. However, I’ll forgive you. Read the September, 2013 posting on reliefweb.int (an organization that informs on worldwide humanitarian efforts) that states China is the world’s largest importer of rice. Or the 3/23/2011 posting of grist.org questioning whether the US will have to feed China. There are other sources more numerous than I want to quote on the same subject. Not being food independent is hardly conducive to world domination.

  125. FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2015 at 7:45 pm #

    “Let me guess, based on reading a year’s worth of your posts: Russia.”

    Based on reading a year’s worth of your posts we all already have a shiny light bulb growing on the ass feeding off the body heat.

  126. Q. Shtik July 9, 2015 at 9:38 pm #

    To close out a personal thread from a couple of weeks ago………. I got back my blood test results today and DID, in fact, test positive for Lyme Disease. If I had tested negative for Lyme I would have been in a quandary wondering just what the hell it was that I was stricken with and might it someday come back to haunt me.

    The good news is that the antibiotics I took for 2 weeks seem to have cured me. Just to be sure, the Doc today prescribed another week’s worth of these pills.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 10:00 pm #

      Glad you’re feeling better. If you feel up to it, could you tell us the story of Hans Gropius and the Clock that always says 10:30?

      • Q. Shtik July 10, 2015 at 10:38 am #

        If you feel up to it, could you tell us the story of Hans Gropius and the Clock that always says 10:30? – Janos


        Hands grope us? and the 10:30 clock? Sounds soft-pornish.

        Not familiar with it.

  127. Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2015 at 9:46 pm #

    In honor of the flag coming down, and now that the raw emotion has died down, here is the annotated manifesto of Dylan Storm Roof. There’s a lifetime of study here presented by James O’Meara in the links and footnotes. Y’all best get to it.


  128. Buck Stud July 9, 2015 at 11:15 pm #

    President Obama’s Chairman of the Joint Chief of Staff nominee just singled out Russia as the country that poses the greatest threat to U.S. national security. In addition, Obama’s CHJC nominee backs weapons being shipped to Ukraine. This comes on the heels of the current CHJC asserting that ‘perpetual war is the new normal’.

    Well, well, well, I bet BRH is whistling “come on baby light my fire” at the prospect of perpetual war and against Russia no less. Surely it’s not what he thought he was voting against back in 2008.

    How do you like it now BRH?

    • Janos Skorenzy July 10, 2015 at 12:22 am #

      Or perhaps Bomb, Bomb, Bomb – Bomb, Bomb, Iran.

    • BackRowHeckler July 10, 2015 at 7:28 am #

      I heard that quote Buck. When I’m out working in the garden I like to have the radio on for some background noise, tuned in to an all news station.

      The world was destabilized in August 1914 and its been pretty much perpetual war since then, an entire century of warfare with very little respite. That’s just the way it is. You may not like it. This is a General who was recommended to head up the Joints Chiefs. When asked about threats out there he named Russia; it would have been irresponsible not to. He also could have named ISIS, Iran or China. But those countries (if ISIS is a country) don’t have 5000 nuclear weapons in their arsenal.

      It seems like with the Libs everything that happens is the fault of the United States (and Israel). Everybody else’s motives are pure as new fallen snow.


    • Florida Power July 10, 2015 at 8:03 am #

      Not so fast, BS. The stage props are being changed for the next scene.
      Even StratFor notes Russia has not been the aggressor in the Ukraine unpleasantness. To say nothing of the US State Dept turning a blind eye to sanctions violators.


      Maybe Obama and Victoria Nuland did not get the memo.

  129. wpa--ccc July 10, 2015 at 2:05 am #

    ATHENS, Greece (AP) — Greece finally met a deadline that counted on Thursday, delivering a series of sweeping proposals to its creditors before midnight to set off a mad rush toward a weekend deal to stave off a financial collapse of the nation.


    TRANSLATION: Can kicked. Down road. Again. No collapse. No doom.

    See Jane Run. See Stock Market Climb.

  130. wpa--ccc July 10, 2015 at 2:44 am #

    “we all already have a shiny light bulb growing on the ass feeding off the body heat.” — Finca

    Incandescent light bulbs cannot be efficiently powered by body heat. But LEDs can.

    “The relevant thermal properties of humans measured at different ambient conditions are reported. Several thermopiles are either attached with a strap directly to the skin or integrated into garments in different locations on human body, and power generation is extensively studied at different ambient conditions. Textile covering thermopiles is found not to essentially decrease power generation. Therefore, a hidden energy harvester is integrated into an office-style shirt and tested on people in real life. It generated power in 5–0.5 mW range at ambient temperatures of 15 °C–27 °C, respectively. The thermoelectric shirt with such an energy harvester produces more energy during nine months of use (if worn 10 h/day) than the energy stored in alkaline batteries of the same thickness and weight.”

    Thermoelectric Energy Harvesting of Human Body Heat for Wearable Sensors.
    V. Leonov.
    IEEE Sensors Journal. 06/2013; 13(6)

  131. wpa--ccc July 10, 2015 at 3:04 am #

    “here is the annotated manifesto of Dylan Storm Roof.” — Janos

    So, Janos, you hid out until “the raw emotion died down.” The manifesto sounds pretty much like what you have been preaching here for years, Janos.

    You are a racist who directly or indirectly supports violence against Blacks. I remember you praised the courage of those who killed the four Black girls in a church bombing.

    Now you are giving publicity to this manifesto, giving publicity to the guy who massacred nine people in a church. Too many here on CFN give you a pass, including JHK, to allow you to promote your racial violence and hatred.

    Donald Trump is leading in some polls, ahead of Walker and Bush. You also support Donald Trump… even after hearing his false claims about Mexican immigrants.

    A range of studies show there is no evidence immigrants commit more crimes than native-born Americans. In fact, first-generation immigrants are predisposed to lower crime rates than native-born Americans.

    Immigration and crime levels have had inverse trajectories since the 1990s: immigration has increased, while crime has decreased. The influx of immigrants has contributed to the decrease in crime rates.


    • Janos Skorenzy July 10, 2015 at 2:22 pm #

      A pack of lies. You’re a deck full of Jokers and Aces of Spades. I never praised the courage of those men. If memory serves, I pointed out that their actions ended the White struggle against integration. Thankfully, the foolish action of Dylan Roof have not had any such similar effect. I merely point out that the young man had discovered the hidden horrors behind the headlines – and that for whatever reason, couldn’t live with it. Mr O’Meara links to some of the sources that he found. Needless to say, Black and Immigrant crime are beyond belief, one of the factors destroying America.

      I would have much preferred that Dylan Roof get involved in White National politics and struggle for the freedom of his people. But as Mr Kunstler said, there would be White reprisals. Guess he was part of that. Imagine if he was Black: people would be all over themselves trying to understand him and countless dollars would be thrown at the situation. But because he’s White – nothing. How much more do you think Whites can be pushed without pushing back? If y’all keep pushing, it’s on you.

  132. Pucker July 10, 2015 at 3:40 am #

    If any of you CFN “Dill Holes” are going to be at the Bohemian Grove this weekend, I’ll be look’n to party. I’ve ordered some Extra Wings for the big Human Sacrifice. Please bring plenty of Cole Slaw. Thanks!

    • Therian July 10, 2015 at 11:51 am #

      I’ll bring a suitable Hollandaise sauce. Human legs are so yummy with it!!!

    • Janos Skorenzy July 10, 2015 at 2:24 pm #

      Look very carefully on the upper right hand of the dollar bill – there’s a minute owl there. The worship of Minerva is baked into the very cake of American Life as per the Bohemian Grove Cult.

  133. FincaInTheMountains July 10, 2015 at 5:55 am #

    “Can kicked. Down road. Again. No collapse. No doom.” == wpa

    At the height of the debt crisis in 2011. Greece’s debt was 146% of GDP. As a result of the aid plan by the creditors to reduce the debt burden, it reached 177% of GDP, since the GDP fell by a quarter and unemployment has increased 100%(twice the 2011 level).

    Official European concept: Greeks borrowed shit load of money, cheating creditors, and now, bastards, do not want to pay back, and we have something ready to help them to give us our money, but only in response to repentance and humility.

    In fact, the German and French banks subsidized consumption of their products in Greece, promoting parasitism. And when the Greeks were not able to service their debts, they organized the “assistance program” for the sole purpose – to recover their money.

    The problem is not who cheated whom, the problem is that the creditor’s program reduces the ability of Greece to service debts since it destroys the remaining production.

    European Union is US instrument of subordination of Europe. And for the Americans, in principle, is beneficial to weaken Europe and make it suffer, but it is not profitable to make it totally collapse.

  134. FincaInTheMountains July 10, 2015 at 6:35 am #

    With the latest news from Greece about their unexpected surrender to creditors after overwhelming “NO” vote on referendum, it is obvious that current world events are becoming more and more randomized, and are susceptible to the unpredictable influences of whatever world ruling clan gets an upper hand at this particular moment and location.

    With alleged short-selling spree by FED-aligned Financial Institutions of Chinese stocks and suspected hacker attack retaliation on New York Stock Exchange by Chinese, things becoming more and more chaotic and it is hard to tell how bending of Tsipras government fits the picture.

    But it is obvious, that someone exerted a lot of pressure against the Greeks, may be even threats to personal safety of PM Tsipras.

    Let’s give it some time before passing a judgment.

  135. Florida Power July 10, 2015 at 8:36 am #

    WPA is on fire this week! Above, the dismissal of conspiracy theories regarding Jade Helm (just ignore the recent WaPo reportage):

    “Toss in those Halliburton FEMA camps located near railroad tracks and airports…” –MichiganNative

    Don’t forget the Walmarts all connected by Homeland Security/NSA underground tunnels.

    Iluminati yourself: Wal Mart = Mart(ial) laW … the tunnels built by the US Military were tried out during Jade Helm 15. \sarcasm off

    OK — that which cannot be verified does not qualify for serious discussion. However, the history of governments’ suppression of their populations is verifiable. Empirical. Fact.

    I hate to keep citing Martin Armstrong but he too is on fire right now and blogged yesterday about this. Remember the bonus army?


    Scroll down to Jade Helm.

  136. BackRowHeckler July 10, 2015 at 8:45 am #

    Kevin Sutherland, stabbed to death last week on the DC subway, was from CT, a young up and coming staffer in the office of Congressman Jim Himes. He was 27. Stabbed many times, overkill in fact.

    Not much was made of it here, out of the news cycle in a day, which is curious.

    We had a spectacular murder yesterday on New Park Avenue, a main thoroughfare into Hartford, in the middle of the day, witnessed by dozens of passing motorists. Man gunned down right on the sidewalk without as much as a by your leave, sir! And he got away, too! Who’s gonna stop him? Why should the police exert themselves and risk getting arrested themselves? Would you? Also some juicy arson fires, and one guy in a Hispanic neighborhood (half the city) who doused himself with gasoline and set himself and his house on fire! It really went up, like a tinderbox!

    Civilization has come to an end, replaced by something else, something far different, here in the Nutmeg State. And by the looks of it, coming soon to your town. No, ha? What are you gonna do about it? Planning for the Projects are on the drawing board as we speak.


    • Florida Power July 10, 2015 at 9:11 am #

      Re Sutherland, the old adage applies:

      Dog bites man — not news.
      Man bites dog — news.

      • BackRowHeckler July 10, 2015 at 9:27 am #

        Its just curious we’re still talking about Travan Martin and Michael Brown, but this kid murdered in such a brutal fashion, in a public place, just going about his business, is already out of the news, and forgotten.

        Himes office offered up a weak statement, that was it.

        Sutherland had made a name for himself in state Democratic politics just a few years out of college, which doesn’t seem to count for much with the media anyway.


        • malthuss July 10, 2015 at 12:29 pm #


          the Court pushes White America closer to the brink,

          The Supremes ruled Blacks or govt may sue under disparate impact on the Fair Housing Act.
          Translation, if your neighborhood doesn’t have at least 13% Trayvons and Michael Browns you will be forced to take em.

          Unless you live in a snooty rich place where Auntie Zeituni will live courtesy of the govt.

          I agree with Janos, Sutherland looked more ‘Greek’ than British.
          The media ignores his killer because his killer is Black.

          KS was anti White.

          Here my dear,

          • BackRowHeckler July 10, 2015 at 4:45 pm #

            This will just drive people further out, away from urban centers.

            Its a big country, and we still have the freedom to move.

            From my observations in this area, it takes about 2 decades for a town to collapse once the white population clears out.

            First you have a town, founded around 1640. The population is homogenous for 350 years. Its pretty nice, with many traditions and customs that go back to colonial times.

            Then minorities agitate to get in. Their numbers increase until they get to be about 40%. Whitey is getting nervous. At 50% he leaves, even taking a loss on his house, anything to get away. Before too long the town is 95% black and Hispanic, bankrupt and crime ridden.

            This is what happened to Bloomfield, East Hartford, Windsor and Manchester. A lot of other stuff happens too, none of it good.


          • Janos Skorenzy July 10, 2015 at 6:25 pm #

            Yes, all true. This Ambrose is true descendant of Virgil Kane no doubt.

            Look at the eyes on that Groid: dead and murderous – like a land gator on meth smoothed over with a joint. A terrible karma come to fruition for Mr Sutherland. All for a cell phone – no doubt a fancy one that inspired envy is his savage heart and little brain.

        • elysianfield July 11, 2015 at 2:25 pm #

          The brutal murder of Kevin Sutherland was not only a tragedy, but it was one that need not ever have happened, and would not have, if the victim had just mentioned to the black youth that…he,(Kevin) was one of the GOOD whites.

  137. nsa July 10, 2015 at 9:26 am #

    Meanwhile, over in lefty Seattle the do-gooders released seven beaner sex offenders out into the public because “mexico would not take them back”…..instead of doing the right thing i.e. shooting them and then hanging them from the border fence upside down like a coyote as a warning. Wake up, dummies…..turd world mexico and central america are using the US as a dumping ground for their criminals, drug peddlers, perverts, gangs, excess population. They hand out brochures to the scum of Mex City re heading north and getting on welfare. Mexicans hate whitey almost as much as the tranny WPA….

    • BackRowHeckler July 10, 2015 at 9:42 am #

      Not to mention the filthy infectious diseases being brought in, including entero virus 68, meningitis, even a form a polio, which have killed American kids in NJ, Colorado and Mass.

      Anybody know the names of the dead American kids? Anybody give a sh-t?


    • Florida Power July 10, 2015 at 10:10 am #

      Coming to a farm near you: robotic fruit and vegetable pickers! Robotic cultivators!

      As the tractor rendered redundant much farm labor robotics will continue the progress (dislocation?).

      GPS-control of large farm equipment has been in place for years — framers do not actually drive their super tractors. And adaptive technologies are in place that continuously calculate needed modifications in real time: this area of soil needs less herbicide, for example, etc. etc.


  138. FincaInTheMountains July 10, 2015 at 9:44 am #

    Putin is very pleased with the results of the BRICS summit:


  139. Q. Shtik July 10, 2015 at 10:44 am #

    Divide all the land among each family according to size – Messianic


    Welcome back Messianic.

    I assume from the above you will be voting for Bernie.

  140. Q. Shtik July 10, 2015 at 10:54 am #

    No he’s meditating on his dirty grey – used to be white – sock as his foot twitches. – Janos


    Nice metaphor but I don’t recall Spidy ever focusing in the least on issues of race.

  141. Q. Shtik July 10, 2015 at 11:05 am #

    I believe [this phenomena] applies – Yuri


    At great risk of being banned let me point out that it’s either:

    these phenomena


    this phenomenon

    • sprawlcapital July 12, 2015 at 12:28 am #

      Thank you Q. Calling a phenomenon a “phenomena” bothers me. A lot.

  142. Q. Shtik July 10, 2015 at 12:32 pm #

    Or perhaps Bomb, Bomb, Bomb – Bomb, Bomb, Iran. – Janos


    I do not favor bombing anyone — unless you can herd everyone in ISIS into a confined area like a football stadium.

    But, as to the negotiations on an Iran/bomb deal let me just reiterate a sense of certainty I picked up from reading The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich: I am absolutely positive that Iran will continue to pursue “the bomb” no matter what deal is struck. Hitler rearmed Germany under the collective nose of the world despite the agreements at Versailles after WW1. As the saying goes, “There is nothing new under the sun.”

    • volodya July 10, 2015 at 12:59 pm #

      Yes, not one iota of doubt in my mind that within ten years Iran will have a nuclear arsenal.

      It’s all Iranian aspiration to great power status, religious factionalism, local politics and rivalries. Such as it was in ancient times it shall be. Nothing new under the sun.

      Americans shouldn’t delude themselves. This hasn’t got bugger all to do with the US. At least in my humble opinion. The United States is a long ways away.

      Why the US is at the negotiation table and not Israel and Saudi Arabia and India and Pakistan is beyond me.

      • FincaInTheMountains July 10, 2015 at 1:03 pm #

        May be because current negotiations have nothing to do with Iran nuclear program?

        • volodya July 10, 2015 at 1:23 pm #

          So then what do you figure all the fuss is about?

      • Janos Skorenzy July 10, 2015 at 2:06 pm #

        Because we are part of Greater Israel, of course. Ever since 1913 when we were annexed to the Rothschilds via the Federal Reserve Act.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 10, 2015 at 2:12 pm #

      I was writing to BRH I believe. But I agree that Iran will go forward. They have every reason to be afraid of the Zionists, both Israeli and so called American.

      Remember you were fascinated by watch ads that always had the watch set to the same time. Kind of your version of Platonic Eternity I guess. What did you think of the show Mad Men?

  143. FincaInTheMountains July 10, 2015 at 12:59 pm #

    The veteran of the German politics, the current German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble is ready to offer the United States to exchange Greece for a bankrupt US protectorate – Puerto Rico. He wrote in his correspondence with the Minister of Finance of the United States, “I said the other day to my friend Jack Lew, that we could take Puerto Rico into the Eurozone if the US were willing to take Greece into the dollar union.”

    This joke is only partly a joke: in reality Germany speaks loudly about what is still hidden under politically correct rhetoric. Translated into the language without gimmicks it sounds like: Greece is a German colony, which Germany is free to dispose on their own, without asking the opinion of the European Union. And Puerto Rico is a US colony, despite the rhetoric of free accession to the moral values of the US.

    It means further that if Greece, one of the oldest members of the EU, is the German colony, then who are Bulgaria, Croatia, Slovenia, Romania and others? Just to be clear to choose a patron in the EU, despite the fact that Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia have already done so, but in Washington.

    The moral and political significance of this German colonial cynicism more than it seems at first glance: the politico-geographical racism of EU leaders now is not concealed by anything. And the political-geographical position of the EU ‘second-class’ member states nobody is even trying to protest. So concubines and hostages, slaves and minions prefer to compete for the nomination of the best servant of the day around its increasingly nasty owner than to remind constantly of their formal rights.


  144. wpa--ccc July 10, 2015 at 1:14 pm #

    “Nice metaphor but I don’t recall Spidy ever focusing in the least on issues of race.” — Qshtik

    I don’t find anything in the archives by the entity known at times as nameta9, old69, spidy, AN APE MAN, etc. that was about race. He was against Greens. I question his sanity… because I have an appreciation of the meaning of the word “millions” … though I do agree with him on some points regarding work/leisure.

    From the CFN archives: old69 March 12, 2012 at 10:41 am:

    “We need to get rid of this Stone Age system and hand out Free Salaries to All, Cheap Rents, Build Millions of Rockets to Mars and Millions of Skyscrapers, we need to build Millions of High Speed Trains across the planet, we need to achieve and exploit all of the Resources of the Solar System, etc. Also get rid of the Environmentalists, Tree Huggers and Greens, Use Nature as Tool, it is ours to use, get rid of all of the Resource Scarcity Myths and Such…



    • Janos Skorenzy July 10, 2015 at 2:09 pm #

      Well if Spidey didn’t talk about it, then it must be nonsense. He’s our Authority now according to WPC.

      Clever ape, hiding behind a madman.

    • Buck Stud July 10, 2015 at 11:28 pm #

      I once asked Spider why anyone would want to go build skyscrapers and bridges if they were getting free salaries and I never received a response back.

      Of course I did,’t takes his declarations literally; to me, his hyperbolic excess was meant to invoke the fanaticism of humans on the march. A fanaticism that was visually embodied in the paintings of the Italian Futurists:


  145. FincaInTheMountains July 10, 2015 at 2:29 pm #

    So then what do you figure all the fuss is about? – Volodya

    First of all, Iran is really interested in developing National Nuclear Energy Industry. Even Saudis are contemplating building 16 Nuclear reactors of latest generation.

    Does Iran really wants to build a nuclear bomb? Most likely they do, but at most we’re talking a tactical, not strategic fission device, probably up to 40 kiloton, that could hardly present any real threat to American homeland. Such devices already plentiful in ME, India, Pakistan, Israel, most likely Saudis have it. If Iran will have several tactical nuclear devices, it will not tip the balance of power in the ME.

    US are planning to use Iran to their own purposes. Americans are willing to make major concessions on the Iranian nuclear program just because they expect eventually to destabilize the world energy market.

    Iran, by getting rid of the sanctions, in their opinion, should begin on a large scale export of oil and gas at low prices. In addition, the United States had hoped that after a hint about the lifting of sanctions, Iran refuses to participate in the political game in the Middle East, particularly in Syria and Yemen.

    But this is not happening. Iran actively coordinates its position with Russia. Moreover, it takes measures to support the regime of Bashar al-Assad. Not to mention the support of Shiites in Yemen and elsewhere in the Middle East.

    All this irritates Americans who now regret that they have been drawn into this game on the lifting of sanctions on Iran. But the United States have very limited options to reverse on this issue. Therefore, the American side “offset” their failures in the Iranian policy with political hysteria, which they are trying to create around Iran.

  146. Q. Shtik July 10, 2015 at 9:22 pm #

    He’s our Authority now according to WPC. – Janos


    Is WPC your abbreviation for wpa-ccc?

    • Janos Skorenzy July 10, 2015 at 9:32 pm #

      Is that Ok? I also call him Wapo. I used to call you quizdik I believe.

      Did you ever write the eulogy or dyslogy for your Brother Antoninus? At least tell us who had a bigger portfolio, you or him.

  147. Pucker July 10, 2015 at 10:36 pm #

    Meet Me at The Bohemian Grove—-The “News” is not “News”, and “Food” is not “Food”. “Men” are not “Men”, and “Women” are not “Women”. War is Peace. Slavery is Freedom.

  148. Pucker July 10, 2015 at 10:54 pm #

    Have any of you CFN “Dill Holes” ever been a “Fan” of someone? It’d be rather weird to have a following of “Fans”. I may be somewhat of a “Fan” of Dmitry Orlov: I read his Doomsday Collapse blog. I follow his constant upgrades to his apocalypse survival sailboat. He’s now replacing the engine of his boat. I take a strange interest in which powerful world leader he is now lambasting. He may be a reincarnation of Stalin?

  149. Pucker July 11, 2015 at 6:03 am #

    Former US President George W. Bush, Jr. who led the US to war in Iraq charged a US charity serving wounded US war veterans $100,000 to give a speech. True story…..

    A California-based energy firm that federal prosecutors called a “Ponzi-like scheme” in a civil fraud case brought by the Security and Exchange Commission this week allegedly misused investor funds to pay President George W. Bush $200,000 to speak at a 2012 “energy summit.”

    A federal fraud complaint alleges the head of Luca International Group, LLC misspent millions in foreign investor money for her personal use and that the company diverted more than half a million dollars to host a lavish 2012 conference for potential investors, which included a golf junket to Pebble Beach. The complaint says $200,000 was spent to bring a former U.S. President to speak at the event. Bush was identified in company promotional material as the keynote speaker for the summit, though it is unclear if he actually appeared. Bush’s speech fee was first reported by BuzzFeed.

    The conference was billed as a “U.S.-China Energy Summit.” According to the federal fraud complaint, the event was intended to recruit more Asian investors for the embattled company.

    On Wednesday, ABC News reported that Bush charged $100,000 to speak at a charity fundraiser for U.S. military veterans severely wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan, and former First Lady Laura Bush collected $50,000 to appear a year earlier. The former President was also provided with a private jet to travel to Houston at a cost of $20,000, the officials said.

    Bush spokesman Freddy Ford did not respond to questions about the former President’s appearance at the so-called energy summit. But earlier, he confirmed that Bush accepted the payment for the veteran’s event. He declined to comment on the criticism over the $100,000 speaking fee from the veterans’ charity.

    In an e-mail statement, Ford said, “President Bush has made helping veterans one of his highest priorities in his post presidency.”

    • Florida Power July 11, 2015 at 8:08 am #

      Is it any wonder that George W and Bubba Clinton are such pals now?
      Although I guess the Bubba equal to Bush’s concern for veterans would be a Clinton $100K speech to a battered women/rape crisis group.

  150. ZrCrypDiK July 11, 2015 at 6:11 am #

    Mirror, mirror – on the wall… Who is the most bat-sh!t cra-Z of us all? Me, that’s who? Ah, gee – thx Mirror Man (talk talk)!

    It must be the way I point out that the solar irradiance has been significantly down for almost the past decade. Or how I point out that CO2 atmospheric concentration is still increasing at an exponential rate. Or, maychance, it’s the fact that I point out the average global temperature is still rising, with record highs set pretty much every other year (over that said-same *almost* past decade). Or, perchance, it’s how I claim that we continue to clearcut (and extract) every last remaining resource as quickly as possible – extincting remaining species, silting up remaining rivers that ACTUALLY flow all the way to the ocean, and leaching/concretizing the remaining soil. Or, how I claim we’ve completely polluted all remaining water/air/land, with carcinogenic hydrocarbons, heavy metals, and radioactive isotopes. Or, how I claim (ad nauseum yet?) that the methane hydrates on the ocean floor are sublimating into the atmosphere (OK I’ll drop the one about ocean acidification via CO2 by 30%)…

    I should throw in some new statistics I’ve not yet *spammed* about – let’s start with volcanic activity. Apparently it’s been many decades since we’ve seen such ‘spurts’. Also apparently, the soil has about 30-40 years before it becomes completely infertile, due to GMO OIL MONOCULTURE crop techniques.

    So yes – the math/science is in – loony to the tune (mofo?).

    • beantownbill. July 11, 2015 at 9:37 am #

      No, my friend, you are not crazy – most of the rest of the world is.

    • wpa--ccc July 11, 2015 at 11:52 am #

      ZrCrypDiK, thank you.

      Ditto … what Beantown said.

    • sprawlcapital July 12, 2015 at 12:55 am #

      All of which drives me to more than occasional bouts of misanthropy, which I would gladly renounce if, among other things:

      Humans would reduce their global population to the number at the time of my father’s birth, in the year 1911: about 1.7 billion.

      Our techno-industrial. growth-addicted economies were replaced by sustainable economies, including in agriculture. Make that ESPECIALLY in agriculture.

      The belief that all change is good was abandoned.

  151. FincaInTheMountains July 11, 2015 at 6:44 am #

    The beheading of ISIS hostage was shot in a studio

    Hackers of “Cyber-Berkut” broke into the electronic media storage of a US Politician and found a video with the production of the beheading in the desert. In the video, an actor dressed as an ISIS executioner holding a knife to the prisoner’s throat, and the “victim” depicts the suffering.

    “We Cyber-Berkut received at our disposal the file which value cannot be overestimated. Dear Senator McCain! We recommend you next time in your foreign travel, especially to Ukraine, not to take confidential documents with you”, – says the hacker’s site.

    Everything takes place in the presence of a full filming crew. The terrorist and his victim are in the green background (green background with the help of special computer programs could be replaced by any other background). Actor says something, apparently, malicious and threatening, and then pretends to cut off the head of unfortunate “victim” who even not has his hands tied, but just keeps them behind.

    The filming process seems to be a lot of fun for operators and actors, who are joking and laughing.


  152. BackRowHeckler July 11, 2015 at 7:18 am #

    Well, at least the Confederate Flag is gone.

    Now its time to hoist the Rainbow Flag!

    salute that rainbow flag as you pass, kneel, bow and scrape before it.

    Expect a national essay contest in schools across the nation this year expressing how much you love the rainbow flag, what it means to you, how you will treat it with the reverence it deserves, for example the same as that other sacred relic, the traveling AIDS quilt. (Participation in the contest is mandatory. Winners get a free weekend in Key West)


    • Florida Power July 11, 2015 at 8:17 am #

      Coming up next will be the relegation to non-person status of Washington and Jefferson. Expect soon the demolition of the Jefferson Memorial and the renaming of D.C. Geez — that’s a two-fer: Washington and Columbus!

      Any thoughts on what to call the Nation’s Capital?

      • ozone July 11, 2015 at 10:27 am #

        Nation’s Capitol re-naming contest:

        Banana Republic Shit-hole Central.
        All hail the glorious BRSC!
        (Just what we need; another acronym.)

        Now if you’re like me and pay some heed to what ZrCrypDiK has to say above, then there’s a better than 50/50 chance that no one will have to call it anything in a few passing generations.
        (Oh, you think he’s “crazy” do you? Give it another think.)
        BTW, I don’t happen to think that impending doom is any reason to act like assholes to one another (as the Puppetmasters would prefer); in fact, just the opposite. We shall see how the scales tip as to decent vs. indecent (tm, AKlein).
        — Good Luck

        • BackRowHeckler July 11, 2015 at 11:49 am #

          Memo to Oz (if your still looking in)

          also, please pardon me for being off topic. Topic anyway has run itself off the rails by this time of week.

          Been pulling my limit of trout out every day up at Riverton. Question, I’ve practically got the whole place to myself; where is everybody?

          These are nice trout too, 13-15 in.

          At Hogsback, and Peoples Forest.


          • ozone July 11, 2015 at 1:41 pm #

            Peeking in again.
            I dunno wherefore everybody ‘art’! Usually that’s a *very* busy stretch.
            *However*, don’t question your good fortune. 😉
            (I can send someone down there if you’re feeling too isolated. My buddy is an avid fishin’ fanatic with fantastic angling luck/skill.)

            **Off-topic? Matters little at this point in the week…. or maybe anytime. lol

    • wpa--ccc July 11, 2015 at 12:41 pm #

      “Expect a national essay contest in schools across the nation this year expressing how much you love the rainbow flag, what it means to you, how you will treat it with the reverence it deserves” –brh

      brh, with that other flag, the one with stars and stripes, obeisance was demanded and the brainwashing was daily and incessant. In a public school I had to stand every morning, put my hand over my heart, and pledge allegiance “under God.” Before every sporting event I had to stand, put my hand over my heart, and salute the flag, all while singing the national anthem. Then I was drafted and expected to fight for the stars and stripes, to give my live for that flag.

      In public school I had to memorize how many stars and how many stripes and the symbolic meaning of the flag. I was forced to pledge allegiance to that flag and taught to honor those who died for it. Presidential candidates have been shamed and accused of being unpatriotic for not wearing a stars and stripes pin on their lapel.

      The rainbow flag has not been as invasive or demanding. No one is being forced to bow and scrape before it. There is no requirement that state institutions fly the rainbow flag. Obeisance is voluntary and there is no Selective Service System which requires mandatory registration of people to die for the rainbow flag.

      I like that the rainbow flag is inclusive and optional. Your idea of a national essay contest is a good one, as long as participation is voluntrary. The rainbow flag represents freedom, so mandatory reverence should not be institutionalized, as it has been with the stars and stripes at every school, government office, and stadium throughout the land.

      Here is a suggestion for a new athem to accompany the rainbow flag: https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=27&v=zxSTzSEiZ2c

      • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2015 at 4:10 pm #

        Yes, what did the Persian King say in 300? Leonidas is so cruel making you stand and not letting you kneel.

        Remember, color is the crucifixion of White Light. And the Rainbow is only “the Rainbow” as long as the colors stay distinct. If you blend them together, they rainbow is gone. Let’s those who have a brain to understand, understand.

  153. BackRowHeckler July 11, 2015 at 7:28 am #

    I see the US Army is being reduced to 450,000 soldiers, about the same number Bulgaria entered WW1 with.

    Its going to be mighty tough to dominate the world with an army that small. Let’s see, NKorea fields an Army of 7 million, and china about 6 million.

    I think we’re outnumbered.


    • ozone July 11, 2015 at 9:48 am #

      Didn’t you get the memo? It’s different this time. Soldiers, shmoldiers. (And it’s cleaner too; valuable infrastructure stays intact to be cheaply acquired and resold!)

      “While the folks clogging the US tattoo parlors may not have noticed, things are beginning to look a little World War one-ish out there. Except the current blossoming world conflict is being fought not with massed troops and tanks but with interest rates and repayment schedules.” -JHK

    • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2015 at 4:14 pm #

      Bout time. The tragedy is that a Leftist had to do something “conservatives” should have done long ago. We were never supposed to have a standing army. C’mon you know that. What we were supposed to have is the Citizen Soldier behind every blade of grass. Like the Buffalo, the Citizen is neither predator nor prey. Of course Obama has other ideas and is making the Police into the Domestic Military. One as strong as the official military? Maybe stronger – and certainly more loyal.

      • sprawlcapital July 12, 2015 at 1:10 am #

        And those citizen soldiers should be defending our borders and our shores, not fighting in places like Iraq to defend the salaries of executives who run our military-industrial complex.

  154. FincaInTheMountains July 11, 2015 at 9:08 am #

    “I think we’re outnumbered.” – brh

    In the analysis of the Second World War, American military historians have found a very interesting fact. Namely, during sudden collision with Japanese forces Americans tend to make decisions much more quickly – and as a result, won even over superior enemy forces.

    Examining this pattern, the scientists concluded that the average length of American word is 5.2 characters, while the Japanese is 10.8.

    Consequently, giving orders by Americans took 56% less time, which during a short battle plays an important role. For the sake of “interest” they analyzed the Russian language – and it turned out that the length of the words in the Russian language averages 7.2 symbols.

    However, in critical situations, Russians switch to profanity – and the word length is reduced to 3.2 characters(!). This is due to the fact that some phrases and even sentences are replaced by a single word.

    For an example, the phrase:
    Formal command:

    32th – command request immediate destruction of enemy tank, leading fire on our positions to the right;

    Russian military command (profanity):
    32th – fuck that dick to your right!

    So, brh, you could do it with smaller numbers, just learn to swear in Russian!

    • BackRowHeckler July 11, 2015 at 8:07 pm #

      Fincain, I’m not sure if swearing is permitted in the New Model American Army; it might offend the tender sensibilities of recruits of a certain persuasion, precious pearls that they are.

      In basic training we were known to our Company Commander ( Navy equivalent of Army DI) as ‘Fukk-n Maggots’ as in “OK Magots grab your rifles and head to the grinder, time to run some laps.” At which point we’d have to run around holding an old M1 rifle above our heads singing the Navy hymn “Until i get tired at looking at you Maggots”, which was about an hour, give or take

      Of course that was the old Navy, brfore the Captain brought his husband Ken aboard and introduced him around to the crew, and birthing centers were installed in Aircraft Carriers for knocked up female sailors.

      Fincain, having read that last paragraph, tell Putin down in Moscow (I’m assuming youre in St Petersburg) that if he wants western Europe go ahead and take it. There’s nobody and nothing here to stop him.


      • sprawlcapital July 12, 2015 at 1:19 am #

        LOL, brh. Hilarious.

        Also, it’s Finca, G-d f-cking damn it–not Fincain.

  155. Q. Shtik July 11, 2015 at 11:03 am #

    Are you familiar with the name Ken Fisher? He is the long-running Forbes columnist who writes on the subject of Portfolio Strategy. He also has a firm with multi-billion$ under management and is, himself, a multi-billionaire.

    In a recent Forbes column Fisher presents a long (all the way back to the Civil War) and convoluted set of historical facts tying presidential election outcomes to stock market outcomes.

    He concludes: “So with history against Hillary, I’m looking toward a great 2016 market — and [but] increased 2017 risk.”

    If interested, locate and read this article to see the rationale for his conclusion.

    • Q. Shtik July 11, 2015 at 11:10 am #

      Here is the link:


      If nothing else, read article’s first sentence.

      • wpa--ccc July 11, 2015 at 1:00 pm #

        The first sentence: “I’ve turned up a 155-year indicator that suggests Hillary Clinton will not be elected next year”

        Would this be the same Ken Fisher who assured us Romney was going to win in 2012? Ken Fisher was a donor to the Romney campaign, so Ken Fisher does know how to pick a loser.

        But Fisher may be right about Hillary, given Bernie-Mentum.


    • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2015 at 4:04 pm #

      You’ve read to “To Kill a Mockingbird”, the vicious Anti-Southern novel of Harper Lee? Do you think she’s real at all? Even people back then said she got “help” from the publishers. And she just “happened” to live next door to a major talent, Truman Capote and they were childhood pals. Maybe he wrote the rough draft and a publisher smoothed it over a bit.

      Now they’ve found another one of “hers” and the town’s people are again skeptical. Scout grows up to be a Lesbian working in New York and comes back to visit her benighted neighbors back home. The timing is perfect also is it not? Too perfect!

      Scout used to give her brother hell and beat up Dill, her wispy friend. She wasn’t a Lesbian born but since her father Atticus was the last good White Man, she might as well fly the Rainbow flag and explore the lovely groves of Lesbos. Apparently she met Beebo Brinker reading Sappho in a café, and the rest was history.

      The amazing thing is that far more women don’t become Lesbians. Who can live up to the standard set by Atticus Finch? Truly women are betrayed by their biology into settling for 2nd and 3rd rate chumps, jerks, nerds, and losers. But now a new possibility has arisen: Non-White Men. They aren’t even trying to compete with Atticus so the Scouts of the world can feel at ease. It’s back to the jungle for a little fuuun or should I say Faun?

  156. volodya July 11, 2015 at 11:13 am #

    I guess collapsing Greek banks focused some minds in Athens.

    So Tsippy triumphantly presents to the soul-less square-heads the same deal he so stridently denounced and campaigned against.

    Comedic stuff. It wouldn’t do to smirk openly. So, while in public they appear as sober and serious Teutons, I’ll bet Merkel and her crew spent the night laughing in their lager.

    No matter, Greece is a sideshow here. The main event is Italy.

    Greece may have been Europe’s ancient teacher, the Greeks may have taught garlic-stinking, flea-bitten, bum-scratching Europe the finer points of civilization.

    But when it comes to corruption Italy is the master. Greece doesn’t come knee high. Greece’s societal obstacles to grown-up behavior are pea-sized compared to Italy’s. Naples is ground-zero, Europe’s very own Calcutta.

    So the problem is and always has been the precedent being presented to the good ship Costa Camorra before its Schettinos run it aground.

    European aristocracies died in the 20th Century’s Conflagrations. As lunatic as those episodes were, at least the rich guys back then bore a share of the death and dismemberment. But that’s all folks. No more.

    Present-day elites will screw anything pinker and softer than themselves but, when it comes to discreditable conduct, the Italian oligarch will show you. Schettino abandoning hundreds of people is small potatoes. Do you wonder how entreaties like vado a bordo, cazzo had zero effect? Such things are for suckers and idiots.

    So, with a place like Italy, you have to explicitly lay out consequences. And that’s what this whole Greek business was about.

  157. volodya July 11, 2015 at 11:30 am #

    Who bails out Greek banks? Gonna take billions. Who comes up with the money?

    So, will Greek banks re-open? What if they don’t? All this bedazzlement and bullshit will have been for nothing.

  158. FincaInTheMountains July 11, 2015 at 12:17 pm #

    “So, will Greek banks re-open?” — Volodya

    Smart money bet that they will, with recapitalization from ECB. They’re already busy buggers printing their QE, so they’re just gona have to find some extra ink and paper.

    After all, don’t want to see Russian Navy parked near those beautiful islands.

  159. volodya July 11, 2015 at 12:54 pm #

    Anecdotes now appearing about “drachma” on the odd credit card statement.

    Plus some reports about Greek businesses accepting Bulgarian Lev and Turkish Lira. The latter is expected. In the absence of Euros you make do with what ever you can get. Even Bulgarian currency.

    Maybe “they” (meaning the U.S.) don’t want to see the Russian navy parked in Greek ports. But the level of loathing between Greeks and other Euro-zone people is such that it would not surprise me if it comes to pass. The Greeks may do it out of spite and for the sake of Russian monetary aid. Beggars can’t be choosers.

    If it comes to pass I wouldn’t doubt that Putin’s boys will have made some juicy deals with the Greeks. I wouldn’t doubt that they will have bent some Greek politicians. Money is a powerful motivator. So is black-mail.

    And, if it does come to pass, the Pentagon may have a cow but the Pentagon, despite its delusions and American pretensions, doesn’t control as much as it thinks. Russian destroyers after all are not packing fourth of July fireworks but rather some rather fearsome anti-ship missiles which, according to what I’ve read, can sink US aircraft carriers.

    Does the U.S. relish the prospect of an armed confrontation with Russian ships? I doubt it. I think the U.S will scream loudly but that’s about all. The U.S. needs Russia right now for other things. Greece, in every sense of the word, is a sideshow.

  160. volodya July 11, 2015 at 1:37 pm #

    This just in from zerohedge: Germans propose Greece leaves the Euro-zone for 5 years while it gets its shit together.

    The question is what does it use for a currency during those 5 years?

    The other question: once it’s out how does it get back in?

    IMO once it’s out, it’s out. IMO the odds of Greece getting its house in order is slim.

    I would have thought a crashing out would have been more likely than the – ahem – “controlled” Grexit that Germany is proposing ie one with humanitarian aid.

    As JHK said, anything can happen. Looks like “anything” just did.

    So welcome to Blackswansville. Or, maybe in this case, Greyswansville.

  161. FincaInTheMountains July 11, 2015 at 1:58 pm #

    “The rainbow flag has not been as invasive or demanding” — wpa

    Why is that American rainbow consists of only 6 colors, while Russian has seven in it?

    The difference is in blue: Russian language has two words for it : Navy Blue (sinii) and Light Blue (goluboi).

    Incidentally, Light Blue (goluboi) is a street slang for homosexuals.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2015 at 4:17 pm #

      The old Indo-Europeans couldn’t see all the colors. The perception of the full rainbow is an evolutionary attainment. Our ancestors (if any) will see even more colors, even deeper into the ultra-violet.

      Color blindness is merely an atavism.

      • malthuss July 12, 2015 at 11:24 am #

        With regards to Ken Fischer, I think his dad was the one who made the famous comment in ’29, ‘Markets at a perma High’.

        Wiki does not list him as “Jewish’.


  162. wpa--ccc July 11, 2015 at 2:26 pm #

    “So Tsippy triumphantly presents to the soul-less square-heads the same deal he so stridently denounced and campaigned against. Comedic stuff. It wouldn’t do to smirk openly.” –Volodya

    Smirking only indicates a lack of understanding. But smirk if you must. The drama of Greece is the result of the stubborn refusal to offer Greece essential debt relief. That refusal goes against common sense, against the IMF’s verdict and against the everyday practices of bankers facing stressed debtors. Greece is being intentionally punished. Germany wants Greece to be pushed out of the single currency to put the fear of God into the French and Italians and have them accept Germany’s model of a disciplinarian eurozone.

  163. wpa--ccc July 11, 2015 at 3:06 pm #

    “This just in from zerohedge: Germans propose Greece leaves the Euro-zone for 5 years while it gets its shit together.” –Volodya

    If you want to find blame, blame the EU’s constipated Puritan bankers who are demanding crucifixion of the Greek hedonists for living beyond their means. Greece is a case of financial irresponsibility on the part of bankers and investors, not excess spending on the part of the Greeks. Greece did not force the Euro bankers into acquiring toxic USA subprime assets.

    But now Greece has to pay for bad banking decisions? We have seen this pattern before in the Third World debt crisis of the 1980s, and in Thailand and Indonesia during the Asian financial crisis of the 1990s. The same austerity measures—then known as structural adjustment—followed lending binges from northern banks and speculators.

    And the scenario played out the same way: Pin the blame on the victims by characterizing them as living beyond their means, get public agencies to rescue you with money upfront, and stick the people with the terrible task of paying off the loan by committing a massive chunk of their present and future income streams as payments to the lending agencies.

    But this time the Greeks stood up and said HELL, NO!

    The German Grexit plan is non-sense, pure Kabuki theatre, because the Greeks won’t sign any deal that gives no promise of debt relief.

    Forcing austerity on Greece reduces Greece’s national income by a quarter. With less income how is Greece to pay debts? It takes the mathematical expertise of an ten-year-old to see this anti-Greece vendetta is calculated to send fecal matter into fan blades.

    People like Volodya are siding with the rapacious 1% in this anti-cafe layabout, anti-Greece frenzy, all the while ignoring facts about how hard-working the Greeks are.

    Many give the impression Greeks retire early to live the good life, while ignoring that the Greek average retirement age for men was 64 years old from 2009 until 2015, reaching an all time high of 67 in 2015.

  164. Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2015 at 4:51 pm #


    Will Trump be driven out of the Republican Party? Rience Preibus tried to quiet him at least, but he will not be quieted much less silenced. The Full force of the “Cathedral” (Mencius Moldburg’s term for the total interlocking forces of business, media, government, and academia – in other words “the system – ours”) try to crush him but he speaks for the silent majority of the White or Builder Race.

    He is the awaited one – grotesque as he may be in some respects. We must stand behind our Leader. Wont it be great to see him on TV looking off into the sunset at the end of every broadcast day?

    • FincaInTheMountains July 11, 2015 at 5:39 pm #

      I’d rather see him once on top of a horse ass riding off into sunset, like for fucking ever.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2015 at 5:57 pm #

        Yeah, you and Charles Krauthammer and the rest of the Tribe too. He’s definitely off the reservation, a loose cannon promoting the Nation State for Non-Jews. What are you gonna do? Give him the Huey Long treatment?

  165. FincaInTheMountains July 11, 2015 at 5:02 pm #

    Germany. Nord Stream – 2 Gas Pipeline

    The best part is that this was a clear surprise for our American friends and partners. They are still unable to articulate their official position on the matter.

    A good sign. They missed the train on Germany joining in the Asian Bank of Infrastructure Investments and now miss the train on Nord Stream 2 – it means that the NSA is not as good as many think they are.

  166. Pucker July 11, 2015 at 8:09 pm #

    We’re having a great toga party here at The Bohemian Grove. The Chilean sea bass is great. Wish you were here!


  167. Janos Skorenzy July 12, 2015 at 2:08 am #


    The Battle Flag is the Rebel Flag is the Flag of Freedom – thus it flies in Europe now and wherever the White Race is being persecuted. Isn’t this our flag now, far more than the Stars and Stripes, which is just a temporary proxy for the New World Order?

    Don’t worry – they intend to get rid of the Stars and Stripes as well. How can anyone not see this?

  168. Janos Skorenzy July 12, 2015 at 4:39 am #


    With malice towards none and charity towards all?

  169. FincaInTheMountains July 12, 2015 at 8:35 am #

    SCO adopts 10-year plan, admits India, Pakistan

    The Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO) ratified a resolution Friday on what the organization expects to accomplish over the next 10 years. At the same session, the SCO nations began a process to grant India and Pakistan full membership in the organization.


    That will seriously complicate US attempts to set fire to the South Asian region. Yes, there is still truckload of outstanding problems with India, but an important step in the direction that these problems could not be used by outside players.

  170. FincaInTheMountains July 12, 2015 at 8:48 am #

    “Fincain, having read that last paragraph, tell Putin down in Moscow (I’m assuming youre in St Petersburg) that if he wants western Europe go ahead and take it. There’s nobody and nothing here to stop him.” — brh

    To my deepest regret, I am not in St Petersburg – very beautiful city, but on the Island that for quite a long time been US protectorate/colony.

    However, on my next regularly scheduled meeting with Mr. Putin (I wished), I will tell him to forget the goddamned western Europe and occupy the Island instead: we badly need new water systems and electrical grid. The Lord-Protector (US Ambassador) of the Island from State Department is a homosexual and more concerned about spreading homosexual “values” in that mostly Catholic Nation than improving the living conditions.

    • Q. Shtik July 12, 2015 at 9:33 am #

      What island are we talking about?

      • malthuss July 12, 2015 at 11:26 am #

        who cares? I read you skipped his posts [I usually do].

      • wpa--ccc July 12, 2015 at 9:05 pm #


  171. FincaInTheMountains July 12, 2015 at 5:31 pm #

    Three ZEROES of New BRICS Development Bank

    The mouthpiece of the Chinese Politburo, Global Times, published a programmatic article by Muhammad Yunus – Bangladeshi banker, professor of economics, the Nobel Peace Prize winner of 2006 for his efforts to support the economic development of the poorest in Asia.

    Yunus – to a certain extent, is a creator of the trend of “socially-oriented banking” and a founder of the highly successful Grameen Bank microfinance corporation.

    Three core goals for new BRICS bank

    The New Development Bank (NDB) is one of the highlights of this year’s BRICS summit in Ufa, Russia. The world’s newest multilateral development bank will have $100 billion as initial capital to fund infrastructure and sustainable development projects both in their own countries as well as elsewhere.

    The NDB should be based on entirely new objectives, to be carried out with new strategies. It would be easy for the NDB to fall into the same track as the World Bank since it is in the same business. But the NDB must resist this from day one.

    I propose three core objectives for the NDB. The primary objectives of the NDB should be to achieve three zeros by 2050: zero poverty, zero unemployment, and zero net carbon emission.

    The NDB could achieve these goals using four basic strategies.

    The first strategy would be to unleash the creative power and commitment of the new generation of youth.

    The second strategy would be to focus on technological innovations. Technology today is under the command of money-makers and war-makers. Socially committed drivers must take charge of technology. They are invisible today. Combining the power of the youth with that of technology will create an unshakeable force.

    This brings us to the third strategy: build up social businesses to mobilize their creative power to solve long-standing and complex social, economic, and environmental problems.

    Social business is a new variety of business which delinks itself from a profit motive. They are mission driven-businesses, and non-dividend companies exclusively devoted to solving human problems. After the company makes profit, the investor recoups his or her