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Greek Pudding

T he proof of the pudding is in the eating, the old saw goes. This one, alas, is a mélange of several old shit sandwiches bound in a liaison of subterfuge and seasoned with political absurdities. Having been fooled in this bistro before, citizen-patrons leave the table resigned to yet another bout of food poisoning as the music of universal upchuck rings across the European Union from Helsinki to Lisbon

What is on display more brightly and clearly than ever, though, is the utter fakery of international banking. The players have lost faith in their own shenanigans. They simply go through the motions now awaiting the political fallout, which is to say the revolt of the people who can still do arithmetic. So, now Greece can supposedly expect another $90Billion-equivalent in new loans on top of the $350Billion-equivalent already racked up. That’s rich. The loan repayment schedule must look like a map of Middle Earth.

Most perplexing — especially for those on summer hiatus in which time seems to be suspended — is the fact that the rescue package will take weeks, perhaps months, to gin up while Greece is right now so utterly paralyzed in bankruptcy that no goods can move, no bills can be paid, and the economy cannot deliver the necessities of daily life. The old refrain, “your check is in the mail” may not be so reassuring to folks who haven’t eaten for three days. Personally, I would expect the gasoline bombs to be flying around Syntagma Square before the middle of the week.

Has anyone noticed the eerie paucity of news emanating from the other hard-luck nations of the EU, namely Spain, Portugal, Italy, and Ireland? The money hole that these deadbeats are in makes Greece look like a dimple in the sand. What, I wonder, is the message to them from the Greek negotiation melodrama? (Lend more money to real estate developers to build more houses and condos that will never be sold? That’ll work!) No, the entire EU debt fiasco harks back to the original meaning of “ring around the rosie” — a theme song of the Black Death. The eventual implosion of the European Union, and the banking system hugging its face vampire squid style, will be the financial equivalent of the Black Death. Kingdoms will fall and social systems will be turned upside down.

The agonizing wait for that outcome is obviously fraying the nerves of all concerned to the degree that all their exertions seem like little more than tragic and pointless exercises in futility — for instance, the terms arrived at in last weekend’s negotiations. Nobody has a shred of faith that they can or will be carried out. In effect, what they’ve done is put together a Potemkin framework allowing them to go just give up for a month or so and go on vacation.

That would, of course, set things up for a mighty financial convulsion in the autumn — history’s favorite season for ruin — when all the ministers and their factotums venture back to the dismal realities they left fermenting at the office. Of all the many things apt to happen, we can count at least on the current Greek government falling and a failure of Greece to make any gesture of repayment in their just-negotiated loan schedule. That would leave the “Troika” (the EU, the ECB, and the IMF) with zero credibility and initiate the epochal widespread repudiation of the entire EU loan structure — in short, the collapse of Europe.

That wouldn’t necessarily be the end of the world, but it would be the end of nearly seventy-year period of peace, prosperity, and stability. The sorting-out would be epic. The standard of living across Europe would sink to the level of the 1830s. The fundamentals of banking and currency would have to be rebuilt from ashes. More nations will break up into smaller units. Western intellectual life would suffer immense shock as all the certainties of the Enlightenment project seemed to go up in a vapor of insolvency and political upheaval. You have to even wonder whether Europe could defend itself against an onrushing Jihad.

But these are admittedly gloomy thoughts for a morning so early in summer. Myself, I’m going to shop for an outfit to wear to Diddy’s annual party in the Hamptons. Coonskin caps may be oddly coming back in style as people all over America try to emulate Donald Trump and the furry creature that lives on the top of his head. Something tells me that the ladies will not be buying many Hillary-style pantsuits. Wouldn’t it be cunning if Diddy’s caterer came up with something like miniature Greek Pudding bites? That would bring a real frisson to the doings, something to chat about besides the marketing genius of Kim Kardashian.

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  1. charlesbasak July 13, 2015 at 8:55 am #

    Hi Jim and friends,

    Whether or not the Greek situation is “resolved”, things will continue to get more ridiculous here, no lessons being learned… For those of you who loathe what cities like NYC have become, hopefully this compilation of criticisms—psychological and structural—will offer as an elaboration:

    http://wp.me/p1I60Z-hN

  2. Smoky Joe July 13, 2015 at 9:05 am #

    Money is “notional,” to use what I think to be a term of Jim’s.

    The EU can bail our Greece with a few waves of the magic wand. Why not? That debt is linked to nothing tangible.

    We live in a time of illusions. Keep the masses happy and they won’t notice until the next global war.

    • Rodster July 13, 2015 at 9:17 am #

      First time poster, long time lurker. Jim’s analogy of the furry creature living on top of The Donald’s head was priceless. 🙂

      That said, the entire financial/banking/economic systems are all a mirage and give the appearance of being the glue that holds things together. It’s just a globalized Ponzi Scheme. Look no further than to the Chinese who many are looking up to as the ones to save us from the current Ponzi Scheme all the while they are behind the scenes expanding the Ponzi Scheme and creating a new one.

      It’s three card monte around the world and people are starting to figure it out. MAYBE, one day Greece will figure out those chains they thought had bound them for eternity to their EU overlords will realize they were invisible all along.

      • Rodster July 13, 2015 at 9:19 am #

        My mistake, did not mean to reply to the previous poster, noob mistake. 😮

        • Smoky Joe July 13, 2015 at 10:23 am #

          It was a good reply, actually. If China tanks, we get to see that all the Emperors have no clothes. I do wonder how much US debt they have dumped since 2008…

      • EvelynV July 13, 2015 at 10:43 pm #

        Don’t be deluded. People figure things out all the time. What good does it do? For one thing their numbers are offset by those who will never figure it out and if they did wouldn’t care. How long did it take to figure out bush was a useless turd and that cheney was evil?

        Reach as far back in history as you can and you will see it is no different now than it ever was. Well, maybe worse now. More distractions to anesthetize and a public more willing to be anesthetized.

      • S M Tenneshaw July 14, 2015 at 4:24 am #

        This so true. Sooner or later Greece will have to say, “Suck my dick.” The sooner the better.

        • seawolf77 July 14, 2015 at 9:24 am #

          No they’ll just borrow more and more.

    • MisterDarling July 13, 2015 at 2:22 pm #

      Hello Joe!

      re | “That debt is linked to nothing tangible.”

      Except that the debt you refer to is linked to very tangible political power. . . THAT’s the reason the debt ‘needs’ to be repaid.

      Cheers!

      • S M Tenneshaw July 14, 2015 at 6:13 pm #

        You may be right. But even so, there’;ll be a breaking point – otherwise we’ll be looking at Rwanda II.

      • ozone July 18, 2015 at 9:49 am #

        Guys and Girls,
        Here’s an excellent article addressing just that within the context of the Greek debacle:

        http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-18/all-hail-our-banking-overlords

        “Real wealth is tangible things produced with tangible effort. Loans made out of thin-air ‘money’ require no effort and are entirely ephemeral. But if those loans are used to acquire real ownership of real assets, then something has been exchanged for nothing and one party is getting screwed.

        That’s what has just happened in Greece. And expect it to happen increasingly elsewhere, as Charles Hughes Smith and I recently discussed in this week’s excellent Off The Cuff podcast.”
        — Chris Martenson

        He also makes it clear that the Greek ‘folks’ won’t see one thin Obol of the much-touted bridge loan. (‘Give you three guesses as to whose hands this loan goes directly into, and the first two don’t count.)

  3. RobH July 13, 2015 at 9:20 am #

    You have to even wonder whether Europe could defend itself against an onrushing Jihad

    >Historically, the fighting aspect of nations is usually operational despite poverty…

    • abbybwood July 13, 2015 at 12:09 pm #

      Well, at least if one joins the military he/she will be able to find a meal.

      Of course it may cost them their lives, but hey! Hunger can be a real bitch!

    • MisterDarling July 13, 2015 at 2:38 pm #

      Hello Rob,

      re | “Historically, the fighting aspect of nations is usually operational despite poverty…”

      That depends. The Mongols flattened the feudal levies of Eastern and Central Europe and did whatever they pleased for a year.

      The only thing that saved Europe from having to learn how to answer the question “who’s your daddy?” in Mongolian was Genghis Khan’s death and the recall of all his sons and top-echelon commanders for the funeral and council of succession.

      It was a near thing. There are things that feudal societies (including modern gangster/warlord run failed states) can do, but one of them is not winning wars against a professional fighting force.

  4. lsjogren July 13, 2015 at 9:40 am #

    Meanwhile as I understand it, Syriza passed legislation welcoming migrants.

    You have got to respect the generosity of the Greeks, being willing to share their shit sandwiches with refugees.

    I would imagine the word out on the sea, however, is “land somewhere besides Greece”.

    • BackRowHeckler July 13, 2015 at 10:18 am #

      I think about 60,000 have landed in Greece, so far.

      More are arriving every day, thousands of desperate people from Africa and the ME, coming in by sea in leaky vessels.

      How much does it cost to take care of 60,000 indigent people, and where is the money coming from?

      brh

      • Smoky Joe July 13, 2015 at 10:24 am #

        Camp of the Saints, but in Greece?

  5. Zoltar July 13, 2015 at 9:48 am #

    The first paragraph of today’s post recalls the old joke:
    Life is like a shit sandwich.
    The more bread you have,
    the less shit you have to eat.

    While I’m here, I implore his enablers of this site: please find Janos, wherever he may be, and pound a stake through his heart. Stop him, before he posts again.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 13, 2015 at 7:02 pm #

      I can only reply as Quentin Crisp did when he was being pounded by thugs: I must have done something to offend you gentlemen and for that, I am heartily sorry.

      In other words, I know that you couldn’t be so small minded as to actually want me banned for my views.

      • Zoltar July 14, 2015 at 8:33 am #

        1. No, you’re not the least bit sorry.

        2. I would not, of course, presume to ban you from Mr. Kunstler’s forum, but it’s also true that at the point at which you and your enablers hijack the discussion each week it is no longer worthwhile for the rest of us to read or participate.

        Neither Greer nor Orlov would tolerate you, and their forums are much more rewarding.

        • Zoltar July 14, 2015 at 8:50 am #

          Let me be clear, and if Jim sees fit to ban me from his site, then so be it. You, Janos, and your baiters/enablers are of no significance, and I don’t care what your opinions are.

          What is offensive is your impertinence. If Jim chooses to devote a post to Beaney Babies, that’s his prerogative, and if we want to respond it should be about his chosen topic.

          For Shtick to propose “let’s all bait Janos so we can jack up the comment total again this week” is presumptuous and it’s pernicious.

          So have at it, and pretend Jim’s painstakingly built turf here is your personal playground. But, as the classic New Yorker cartoon put it, “I say it’s spinach, and I say to Hell with it.

          • gryffyn July 14, 2015 at 9:44 am #

            Janos the would-be werewolf is more closely akin to the wood tick, a noxious little creature that jumps onto it’s victim and sucks it’s blood, leaving a nasty welt. Like the proverbial blind pig he finds an occasional acorn, but the bulk of his verbal diarrhea is repetitive and boring and often just smart-ass nasty.
            I enjoy our host’s acerbic humor and the intelligent comments of some of the regular contributors. However, as others have observed, the discussion often heads south after the initial responses, hijacked by marginal players.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 15, 2015 at 2:02 pm #

            I focus on Race – are you saying that Race is irrelevant in today’s America? Mr Kunstler certainly doesn’t. Read the last chapter of the Long Emergency where he says Black nihilism will not be tolerated during the Long Emergency. Or remember his first novel where Job and his group flee the Mid Atlantic States because of racial violence. They are relieved to find very few Blacks in upstate New York.

            Just face the fact: you don’t respect the First Amendment. Like most Liberals, you have an authoritarian personality structure. Not liberal in the real sense of the word.

            You too gryf. I don’t know what sabine every saw in you

          • Zoltar July 16, 2015 at 12:09 pm #

            “Looks like a slow week. People are bored with the Greek debacle and how it’s dragging on. Just collapse already, will ya? I want Life to progress and my metals to go up while it’s at it.
            Since people are bored with Greece, guess we’ll have to talk about Trump and White Nationalism some more. Somebody’s got to keep the lights on here. They’re going out all over Europe – and won’t be lit again in our lifetime.” -Janos Skorenzy

            I know your stupidity is only feigned, Janos, and that you understand that my issue with you is the way you hijack Jim’s forum each week for your own self-indulgence.

            You do this because you understand that you would not be able to attract an audience to a blog of your own.

            When someone like me won’t take the bait you resort to argumentum ad hominem and goading with impertinent labels. It won’t work. There is nothing about which I am willing to argue with you except your existence.

          • ozone July 16, 2015 at 5:56 pm #

            Zoltar,
            It’s my opinion that the comment section of the CFN blog has already been divide-and-conquer–ed. We used to have some relevant and interesting give and take that led to some sense of solidarity and a direction that was intriguingly different from the conventional wisdom and tired old ideologies that got us into the clusterfuck we find ourselves in today. I get the feeling that these investigations and ruminations are strictly forbidden, thus the plethora of blog spaces that have been converted into troll bridges (where they live happily and gleefully disrupt any and all discussion that might lead to new paradigms).

            Through the week, FincaInTheMountains doggedly plows on from the Russian perspective (as he is originally of that persuasion and thus can read it for us). I find this somewhat useful as it fills in some pieces of the jigsaw puzzle called, The Big Picture, that we’re not going to be apprised of here in Orwell-ville.

            To sum up on your concern, Monday (and perhaps a small slice of Tuesday) will give us some sighting of folks who seem to give a good goddamn. After that? Conventional dreck and blattings of the Great Wurlitzer……

          • ozone July 16, 2015 at 6:07 pm #

            Zoltar,
            This is not to say that JHK may have very good reasons for letting vladdie have his $20’s worth every week! That’s certainly his business and none of mine. However it seems to heavily squelch unique comments/commentors. Who would wish to be associated with/tarred with the brush of hitler-humpers? Distasteful doesn’t even start to cover it.

          • ZrCrypDiK July 16, 2015 at 6:09 pm #

            Don’t give up yet, Zoltan and Ozone!!! There is a chance that we can over-flood the “ON THE DOLE” jack@$$es.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 17, 2015 at 12:06 am #

            “I don’t care what your opinions are”. So everything I say is wrong simply because I say it? Even 2+2=4? That’s a reductio ad absurdum or Hitlerum.

            Remember, the root of ignorance is to ignore. I simply point out to indoctrinated Liberal cum Commies like you what they are ignoring. It’s up to you to move your head and/or open your eyes. You wont see otherwise.

          • Zoltar July 17, 2015 at 10:13 am #

            No, Janos, everything you say isn’t wrong because you say it; everything you say is of no interest to me because you say it.
            Why? Because you so readily resort to every sort of facile, cheap, and logically invalid trick of argumentation that you have destroyed whatever credibility you might have initially brought to this forum.
            Nothing in my position can be accurately construed as reductio ad absurdum but, as mentioned, you almost immediately stoop to argumentum ad hominem. And, amusingly enough, you have tried the nuke – the Hitler card – which, by definition, makes you a crackpot without any further consideration.
            You insist on trying to label me and put words in my mouth when I refuse to provide you with enough information to do so.
            You claim some sort of authority about the race issue, which has nothing to do with Jim Kunstler’s chosen topic for this week, and about which I have never expressed any opinion on this forum. It would not matter if you considered yourself an expert on philately, child pornography, or epistemology. Because it is you, I have no interest in your opinion.
            You, Janos, are like a fly at a picnic. Why should any of us care whether you prefer the baked beans or the potato salad? We just wish you’d stay away from the food.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 17, 2015 at 6:53 pm #

      You hate me because I speak truths you can’t deal with. You are essentially a Communist whether you recognize yourself as one or not. You think everyone is equal – except Whites. You believe all cultures are equal except Western Culture – which must be destroyed by mass 3rd World Immigration. Well, we intend to stop you and God willing, we will.

      Free Men aren’t equal and equal men aren’t free.

      • Zoltar July 18, 2015 at 8:27 am #

        What’s that annoying buzzing sound? Did someone take the tinfoil off of the potato salad?

  6. fodase July 13, 2015 at 10:00 am #

    typical jimmy rushing to call the end of Europe again….it’s back to the 1830s, his favourite timeframe for a collapsed Japan as well.

    Greece will simply continue to “make” payments on its impossible debt, as directed by the moneychangers from on high.

    what, are the moneychangers going to let a country simply stop paying? guess how many other countries will then do the same thing, seeing that behaviour pay off?

    the moneychangers will not allow it. why do you think Tsypros suddenly gave in to lots of their original demands, after defiantly giving them the finger?

    because the moneychangers can squeeze entire countries mercilessly, and Tsypros does not want to watch his country suffer thru shortages of medical supplies, fuel etc. by continuing to defy the very powerful people who lent Greece money and want it back.

    they will get it.

    the only possibility to defy them would be a fullscale revolt by the people – in which case Greece would likely go back to pre 1980s poverty – in which case JHK would be right for once.

    not much talk of the other deadbeat nations – Ireland and Italy, Portugal, Spain.

    they all owe significantly more than Greece – I supposed the sons and daughters of the gods are getting a constant drubbing because they don’t produce anything of value, other than a few tourist dollars, while the other debtor nations actually do, so they have at least some prospect of repaying their masters.

    Spain was producing 20% of electricity from the WIND a few hours ago….

    fodase

    • BackRowHeckler July 13, 2015 at 10:10 am #

      FT reported in today’s edition for the first time ever in the US more electricity is being produced from Natgas than coal, 31% to 30%.

      How long this trend will last is unknown.

      brh

      • Florida Power July 13, 2015 at 10:35 am #

        This trend is irreversible. No more coal power stations can be built because of the uncertain regulatory/litigation future. Natural Gas has half the CO2 per equivalent BTU. Furthermore, the costs of building a gas power station can be reliably projected, unlike nuclear/fission.
        The issue in the past has been the price of gas, but at the moment supplies are flush.

        Someone blew a whistle last year and suddenly the large investor-owned utilities as well as the municipals and co-operatives have discovered point-of-use solar PV as well as power-station scale solar PV. Partly they have realized that if they do not get out ahead of this and take ownership their business model will collapse sooner rather than later. At the moment large commercial and industrial facilities who are grid-tied and install in-house renewable energy retain the benefits of their tie but pay less for it when the sun shines. The power utility is under the gun from the state and the federal government to achieve maximum reliability so must maintain those lines and equipment to all customers including those with in-house solar PV.

        So far it is still not possible to power dense cities and heavy industry with solar PV so central-station power via natural gas will continue its trajectory. But at the margins of the power systems a collision is occurring between reliability mandates and return on investment.

      • Florida Power July 13, 2015 at 12:47 pm #

        An anecdote on coal:

        During the downturn of 2009~2912 we used to see miles and miles of parked, unused rail cars on the tracks between Sasser GA and Dawson GA next to US 280. These gradually disappeared — a signal that the economy had turned up a bit.

        Now we see mile after mile of unused coal-carrier rail cars.

      • wayfarer July 13, 2015 at 12:57 pm #

        Thanks, good data point.

        How long can it last? Until the ecnonmic/pollution curve crosses the other way. No time soon if ever.

        I have to think that carbon fuels will eventually be considered to valuable in manufacturing to burn for energy.

  7. BackRowHeckler July 13, 2015 at 10:06 am #

    I’m a little puzzled tho, Jim.

    The ‘austerity measures’ Greece has to sign on to in order to get a new helping of EU swag, didn’t Greek voters vote against that just last weekend by a 61%-39% margin?

    What was that national vote all about, anyway?

    brh

    • Helen Highwater July 13, 2015 at 10:51 am #

      Greece said No we don’t want to be tortured any longer. Germany said too bad, you’re going to be tortured anyway. Prisoners have no real choice as to whether they are going to be tortured or not, even if they think they do.

    • mdhaller July 13, 2015 at 11:09 am #

      The Greek vote was about giving the Greek people a chance to voice their opinion…then ignoring them, just like democracy everywhere.

      What better place to show the world that democracy does not work than the birthplace of democracy?

      The bankers want to show the world that the only form of government that works is totalitarian plutocracy. The people who print the money make the rules!

      Love it or leave it.

  8. newworld July 13, 2015 at 10:10 am #

    That people left money in Greek banks to begin with is mind blowing, outright stupidity for the individual of average means, and the super rich should have been long gone.

    Now here in America they got us by the shorthairs of retirement accounts, we will all look like Telly Savalas after the banksters take us for a haircut.

    • routersurfer July 15, 2015 at 12:21 pm #

      newworld you nailed it. What could be a bigger joke than Gold in the form of paper certs or in an IRA “Approved” vault you can not get into 🙂 THAT make Mutual Funds ALMOST look good.

  9. Being There July 13, 2015 at 10:16 am #

    This is all about rentier to spend down to foreign oligarchs who will be privatizing all public sector holdings of Greece.
    They will go down to the bare bones Shock Doctrine style.
    So who will get the Greek Islands for pennies on the Dollar?
    Can’t wait to see the lucky global elite to get them all!!

    But wait there’s more!!
    Remember our friend Wagelaborer?
    today she posted something wewwy wewwy interestinc! BUT DISGUSTING!!!
    see this article about our military buildup in the guise of protecting NATO against “Russian aggression”.
    Could it be to keep the puppets in place in Europe as the economies go down and the little folk go nuts?

    [“The Greek crisis has been going on for five years and more,” says Martin. “You can bet that Washington has already drawn up plans on how to administer Europe politically and financially if the situation demands that intervention. And that situation is becoming more and more apparent almost by the day.”]

    Read more: http://sputniknews.com/columnists/20150713/1024554328.html#ixzz3fmTgaD00

    http://sputniknews.com/columnists/20150713/1024554328.html

  10. AKlein July 13, 2015 at 10:24 am #

    If you sit still, close your eyes, remain quiet and tune out the daily noisemaking, you can sense the winds of war.

  11. orbit7er July 13, 2015 at 10:36 am #

    Gail Tverberg, Peak Oil guru on the archived http://theoildrum.com Website and now writer on http://ourfiniteworld.com points out that
    Greece has one of the highest oil energy dependencies at 60% in Europe. This while of course Greece enjoys loads of sunshine and in all likelihood shore winds with all those miles of coastline. If the banksters were actually about real production and solving problems in the real world rather than skimming percents, loan sharking and cannibalizing public assets for short term private profits Germany would launch a “Marshall Plan” for Southern Europe and Egypt of providing German made solar panels. Which would decrease Greek and Southern Europe oil usage, greenhouse emissions and energy costs enabling them to pay off sprawl debts with real savings needed for the Green Transition!

    But of course it is so much easier, like a loan shark, to break another leg, or lop off another toe from the Greek borrower…

    • Being There July 13, 2015 at 10:49 am #

      The difference between Keynsianism = Marshall Plan and Global Neoliberalism is a million miles apart.
      There is no positive productive activity in the casino speculative monataristic system as Orbit7er points out.

      Doing anything with renewables will not happen in a world of Transnational and central Banking rule.

      The governments can do nothing about it.
      They are surrounded by our serveillance and are occupied by our military so you can expect nothing but the smashing of the social safety net the world over including here.

      Game set and match…….

      As I said on someone else’s blog today: They’re wiping the floor with humanity, as all the chips are coming in like a wave. Come to Uncle Miltie!

    • wayfarer July 13, 2015 at 1:00 pm #

      German made solar panels and windmills for Southern Europe. Good idea!

    • BeerBarrel July 13, 2015 at 7:36 pm #

      Gail is worth listening to. Check out this link – a basic blow by blow of the events of 2008, posted before it happened!

      http://www.theoildrum.com/node/3382

  12. orbit7er July 13, 2015 at 10:40 am #

    Excellent article on Counterpunch tallying up the current House of Cards of totally imaginary derivatives and default swaps – now in the
    unfathomable number of $1.5 quadrillion, yes $1,500 TRILLION alleged dollars to be covered in the greatest Ponzi swindle in history!
    See:

    http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/07/13/when-a-black-swan-flies-over-wall-streets-house-of-cards/

    Of course fear that a Greek default would trigger a default swap avalanche similar to the AIG meltdown in derivatives in 2008 is one of the reasons the Troika persists in the fantasy of extending rather than just cancelling Greek debt…

    This is the greatest leverage Greece has and it is curious they do not play harder with it…
    Wait until Spain votes in Podemos…

    • marzo@cox.net July 13, 2015 at 12:49 pm #

      the current monetary system of money managed investments is so complicated that only few brilliant people writing on this blog can understand it.

  13. goat1001 July 13, 2015 at 10:53 am #

    Even as all the financial shenanigans in Europe and across the world are going on the Elephant in the room is quietly and steadily raising its ugly head (or trunk as the case may be) – the Global Warming is accelerating and the planet is changing rapidly into a very different animal. The methane ‘bomb’ is about to blow…

    • Florida Power July 13, 2015 at 12:26 pm #

      Unless the Maunder Minimum plunges the world into a new ice age post 2030. In which case the on-going greenhouse effect might just make everything 70 degrees worldwide @50% humidity.

      The future looks very bright indeed.

      • Helen Highwater July 13, 2015 at 1:02 pm #

        There is no evidence showing that what you are suggesting is going to happen, but there is plenty of evidence that Global Warming is actually taking place right before our eyes. Try this link for a little clarity: http://robinwestenra.blogspot.co.nz/2015/07/the-dying-earth-07122015.html?mc_cid=37048d4272&mc_eid=98791c5797

        • goat1001 July 13, 2015 at 3:33 pm #

          I originally thought peak oil was going to be the show stopper. Now I am beginning to think Climate Change and associated extinctions is the greater threat now. Apparently oil and power companies will switch to filthy coal when the oil and natural gas starts to get in short supply (higher cost) thus dramatically increasing the CO2 spewed into the atmosphere, accelerating global warming and associated pearls.

          There appears to be a massive amount of methane gas locked up in the oceans and permafrost that is just starting to spew out as the oceans and polar land masses heat up. This is a really potent greenhouse gas that is several-fold more effective than plain old CO2 in shutting in heat and raising temperatures. So the deal is: The graph of average global temperatures rises upward somewhat gently then hits this “methane button” then shoots almost straight upward like a hockey stick. The year that happens is the year TSHTF. It is closer than most people realize. Basically after this event the Earth will not in anyway resemble what we have known.

        • Frankiti July 13, 2015 at 5:21 pm #

          This is the best hope for the planet. A large-scale reduction in humans. This is the change we really need. This is the fever that will break the disease, humans, and bring the Earth recovery. Bienvenue, l’enfer sur Terre

      • sauerkraut July 13, 2015 at 1:06 pm #

        I hope that’s sarcasm, Florida.

        Have you considered how much plankton grows in 70 F water? And how much oxygen doesn’t get into the air? Hint: the Greatest Extinction.

        • sauerkraut July 13, 2015 at 1:14 pm #

          Sorry, Florida, I just lose my sense of humour when science is referenced. I guess I just sacrificed at the altar of stupidity.

          • Florida Power July 13, 2015 at 1:57 pm #

            I was being facetious. But there is presently discussion of the Maunder Minimum percolating on the web that ought to be of interest to scientists. There have certainly been cold periods and warm periods in the geological record. I think I read recently that some Brits were linking the Maunder Minimum to increases in volcanism. What happens when the greenhouse gas effect collides with this is anyone’s guess. The alarming ecology of the oceans is not in dispute here.

        • goat1001 July 13, 2015 at 3:20 pm #

          It is my understanding the plankton is dying off in the oceans and this is the bottom of the food chain for sea life. If the bottom goes then everything goes.

          Also I’ve seen estimates that show most of the United States becoming significantly drier. More “fresh water” will end up in the oceans and less fresh water will be available for drinking, irrigation, etc. according to studies and actual observed data.

          I heard also that a mass die off of humans to the tune of 90 percent was possible over the next 50 to 100 years due mostly to famine and lack of potable drinking water.

          Odd, however, that the PTB including the POTUS and the MSM are not getting agitated over this. They showed much more alarm over the Mayan Calendar expiring in 2012 and the Y2K bug in 1999 then actual science backed evidence the world is actually ending in 50 to 100 years. Odd….

  14. swmnguy July 13, 2015 at 10:55 am #

    At every turn we see confirmation of Einstein’s dictum to the effect that you can’t expect solutions from the people whose best thinking caused the problems in the first place.

    Our financial system is in collapse. In the future, looking back with an historical perspective, the collapse will appear to have been fairly quick. In “real time,” as we live it, the collapse has seemed nearly interminable.

    What’s clear is that the problem is the system itself. Finance capitalism creates nothing more prolifically or efficiently than debt. It doesn’t always generate the growth or the capital needed to service and eventually pay the debt it creates, but it always creates debt.

    This systemic defect is usually addressed by letting the finance system crash every generation or so. But the last time it collapsed regularly, around 1930, the Elites came close enough to losing their accumulated advantage they decided not to let that happen anymore. They created agencies to “regulate” the system, and them subsumed those agencies to protect themselves. That didn’t solve the inherent problems; it just accumulated them.

    As a result, the crash that is building now is actually the compounded imbalances of perhaps 4 generational crashes that should have happened but were prevented, and nobody on Earth who has passed the Elite’s vetting has any idea what to do about it. They couldn’t possibly have any idea what to do; they are entirely creatures of the current system.

    So it’s no surprise all anyone can suggest to Greece is more loans, and probably more off-balance-sheet derivatives, more shifts of assets from one column to another, and of course, loads more debt.

    Having made our entire financial system abstract and anchored to nothing has permitted the Elites to gain infinite notional wealth. It has also allowed the creation of infinite debt. And since it’s all notional, all it takes for all of it to disappear is for people to stop accepting the notion. We’re getting closer to the moment when people do just that; stop accepting the notion.

    It’s going to be really hard when that happens. None of the rules we have learned will have any application anymore. The old rules our grandparents taught us, if we were lucky enough to have clever grandparents and a relationship with them, will be of great help. But none of the rest of what we usually assume will apply.

    • wayfarer July 13, 2015 at 1:03 pm #

      Not just the financial system collapsing, the economic system is collapsing. U.S. style capitalism has failed. In the U.S. where I am I see so many that have checked out of the system. Given up trying to compete. Just live simply off the system. Have a better life until the change comes.

    • MisterDarling July 13, 2015 at 2:49 pm #

      re |”At every turn we see confirmation of Einstein’s dictum to the effect that you can’t expect solutions from the people whose best thinking caused the problems in the first place.

      Our financial system is in collapse. In the future, looking back with an historical perspective, the collapse will appear to have been fairly quick. In “real time,” as we live it, the collapse has seemed nearly interminable.”-swmn.

      You seem to be a person with clarity and perspective. Someone who knows the difference between Tactical and Strategic and which is subordinated to the other. Someone cognitively intact and capable of critical thinking. . . How *are* you, by the way?

      😉

      LOL

    • Frankiti July 13, 2015 at 5:16 pm #

      I think Persig said that there’s no point in burning down the factory, the system, when the same elements, the same modes of thinking/belief, that gave rise to it go unchanged. Otherwise the system merely returns… with a new factory.

    • ozone July 13, 2015 at 9:53 pm #

      swmnguy,
      Excellent outline of the extraction dynamic.
      …And on that note, I do believe that the comment section can be left to the obfuscators and obstructionists.
      Got actual assets for collateral?
      All the best and have an uneventful week.

    • EvelynV July 13, 2015 at 11:22 pm #

      When the crops remain in fields because there is nothing notational to induce the activity it requires to get them from field to your table will that be gratifying?

      The concept was sound, the abuse of it of course has or will eventually lead to the next experiment in survival methods for the human race. The vast majority on earth now won’t have the satisfaction of knowing how it worked out.

  15. Lawfish July 13, 2015 at 11:07 am #

    And Wall Street sees this shit sandwich as great news and explodes 200 points higher on the Dow. I got a degree in finance in 1987 and back then, most of what I was taught agreed with what I saw in the markets. Now, I see nothing but smoke and mirrors. Who are these damn fool investors who think adding another $100 billion to a country that is already insolvent is some kind of solution?

    • Being There July 13, 2015 at 12:44 pm #

      Q.
      I’ve been saying to my friends on FB that Trump has no intention of winning this election. The WH would be a total prison for this man.

      There’s no way he’s giving up “The Art of the Deal” to fill his little feathered head full of the things he isn’t remotely interested in.

      No he wants to frame an argument to be taken up by others. Oh and indeed he craves the attention and loves telling the world how rich he is.

      Oh and he really can’t decree all the things he said he could do —as if he were the dictator.

      I just think of him as a would be UBU Roi.

      • Florida Power July 13, 2015 at 12:59 pm #

        I think he’s making it up as he goes along, and if his apparent momentum continues he will talk himself into it. He clearly enjoys talking to himself. My frame of reference is his speech this weekend in Phoenix. Lots of populism with some unfortunate pandering to a tragedy-struck black family whose promising son was killed by an illegal.

        He is correct in his assessment of the present leadership and grasps the issue of sovereignty.

        • Helen Highwater July 13, 2015 at 1:05 pm #

          An illegal what? Person? Drug? Gun?

          • Florida Power July 13, 2015 at 1:59 pm #

            Illegal immigrant. A lot like the one who shot the girl in San Francisco.

  16. FincaInTheMountains July 13, 2015 at 11:15 am #

    “Life is like a shit sandwich” — Zoltar

    From the conversation in a not so distant future

    – George, what’s that noise outside?
    – It is a Coprophilia Pride Parade, sir.
    – Really? And what do they want?
    – They are just fighting for their right to equality, sir.
    – I do not understand. Does someone prevent them from eating shit at home?
    – No, sir. They do not want to eat shit only at home. They are in favor of crap to be sold in all dining establishments, so they could easily buy a shit on a stick, or order shit on a shovel in the restaurant.
    – But it’s nauseating and quite unnatural
    – Well, why not, sir? It is innate, so they were born with it, and nothing can be done about it. Also the nature is full of examples of Coprophilia. Dogs, guinea pigs, whole bunch of animals take it quite normal. Therefore, no wonder that a man as part of the animal world also wants a taste of it.
    – George, if I understand that correctly, if they get their way, then in my favorite coffee shop on the corner with a strawberry souffle they will serve crap-cakes???
    – That’s right, sir. Coprophilia is absolutely normal and people have the right to have their favorite dish at lunch, without hiding their preference.
    – My God, I’d just have to throw up on the spot!
    – Sir, how could you??? This is a completely intolerant. For this you could be at a minimum fined and at maximum go to jail.
    – ???
    – And by the way, sir, a famous psychiatrist once said something in the spirit of “if you do not like Coprophilia, it is very likely that you are actually too Coprophil, just closeted.” I cannot vouch for the accuracy of the phrase, but just listen to your inner self, maybe you are just waiting to discover the full sweetness of fresh new tastes…

    • beantownbill. July 13, 2015 at 12:30 pm #

      Gross. But very funny and properly sarcastic and ironic.

  17. shabbaranks July 13, 2015 at 11:35 am #

    Here are the key reforms required, from a full list released by the Euro Summit of eurozone leaders.

    By July 15, Greece should:

    — Streamline its VAT system and broaden the tax base to increase revenue

    — Implement upfront measures to improve long-term sustainability of the pension system as part of a comprehensive pension reform program

    — Safeguard the full legal independence of ELSTAT, Greece’s statistics office

    By July 22, Greece should:

    — Adopt the Code of Civil Procedure, which is a major overhaul of procedures for the civil justice system, aimed at significantly accelerating the judicial process and reducing costs

    — Implement the EU Bank Recovery and Resolution Directive, the BRRD, with support from the European Commission

    Additionally, Greece’s reform measures need to be “seriously strengthened to take into account the strongly deteriorated economic and fiscal position of the country during the last year,” eurozone leaders said in the statement.

    That means Greece will need to:

    — Carry out ambitious pension reforms

    — Adopt ambitious product-market reforms, including changes to Sunday trade, sales periods, pharmacy ownership and reforms for bakeries

    — Continue with the privatization of the electricity transmission network operator (ADMIE)

    — Undertake rigorous reviews of the labor markets and the process for holding strikes. On the basis of these reviews, labor-market policies should be aligned with European practices and not return to previous policies, which “are not compatible with the goals of promoting sustainable and inclusive growth”

    — Strengthen the financial sector, in particular by eliminating political interference

    On top of that, the Greek authorities need to:

    — Scale up privatization efforts. Valuable Greek assets will be transferred to an independent fund and the monetization of those assets will become a source to pay down debt. Total value of the fund is expected to be around 50 billion euros. €25 billion will be used to recapitalize Greek banks, approximately €12.5 billion will be used for decreasing debt-to-GDP ratio, while the remaining €12.5 billion be used for investments in Greece

    — Modernize the Greek administration system to reduce costs

    — Allow the lender institutions to work on the ground in Athens to assess progress in implementing the reforms. The Greek government will need to agree with the creditor institutions before submitting legislation to parliament

    And the likelihood of all that going according to plan…..0%

    • sauerkraut July 13, 2015 at 1:08 pm #

      Thanks for the informative post.

    • russ July 13, 2015 at 1:08 pm #

      Reminds me of an old Henny Youngman joke- Guy runs into a little store, barks out a series of orders about as long as the list of “reforms” given above, and emphatically says to the shop owner that he’ll be back at 2:30 to pick everything up. Then he runs out the door.

      The little shop owner calls out as the other guy is leaving “Co…com…co.. come in”

  18. FincaInTheMountains July 13, 2015 at 11:45 am #

    “Continue with the privatization of the electricity transmission network operator”

    Translation: electricity will triple in price and be available 4 hours a day.
    Those moronic Tesla Powerwalls will come in handy – they’ll be able o sell shitload of them in Greece.

    I have already seen that, but in 3-d world Latin countries.

    • shabbaranks July 13, 2015 at 11:59 am #

      Agreed. Lots of “privatization” and “streamlining” schemes in there. I think the overriding goal is to strip the state of its powers and strip the nation of its key assets, leaving both in the possession of foreign private entities.

      This is probably the best one: “Strengthen the financial sector, in particular by eliminating political interference.”

      Call it the Greek equivalent of an anti-Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren provision, or you could call it the pro-Eric Holder/Hillary Clinton provision.

  19. marzo@cox.net July 13, 2015 at 12:23 pm #

    the banking system is designed to keep the rich rich and the poor poorer.
    Can bank print money? The money come from a nation treasury, and a any nation could print as much money necessary to avoid economic collapse.
    Unfortunately old monetary theories, fear mongering politics are blocking nations from resolving their financial crisis, the political invention call “the debt”
    If the US treasury, tomorrow could print enough money to fix our infrastructure tell me how in hell that could cause inflation?
    As long as that money isn’t siphoned somewhere else or tampered with by congress.
    If you woke up tomorrow and all your roads and bridged are fixed would you care where the money came from? And how’s that going to cause inflation?

    • Lawfish July 13, 2015 at 2:50 pm #

      Same as it did in Weimar, Germany after WW I. When the government prints enough cash to double the money supply, then the price of everything should double because no value or wealth has been created.

      • Being There July 13, 2015 at 5:01 pm #

        Yeah, but the difference is we have the global fiat currency for now anyway.

  20. pequiste July 13, 2015 at 12:25 pm #

    For certain Greek P.M. Tsipras received “that phone call” from the MFWIC’s secretary and made him an offer he couldn’t refuse. NOthing else makes sense.

    The Greeks could have just defaulted and went the way of Iceland – arrest any banksters still in the jurisdiction and print up some new Drachmas. Some repentant bankster found would not be thrown off the Acropolis but instead be imprisoned on Patmos island to write the revised version of Revelation: The (Money) Apocalypse.

    This latest NWO economic laugher just kicks that concrete filled 55 gallon drum just a few inches down the pavement.

    At what point does the SHTF really is the real question methinks.

    Intrigued tho’ about those ne plus ultra bocadillos being served to the Southamptoners by the vile Diddy.

  21. marzo@cox.net July 13, 2015 at 12:32 pm #

    any nation capable of issuing currency can print as much money as necessary to avoid hardships without causing inflation.
    It all has to do with how the money is used. Unfortunately our political system is rigged toward making the rich richer and the poor poorer.
    Congress has even created a federal bank that doesn’t work for the national interest.
    Obviously if that money printing machine is given to each one of us THAT will cause inflation.
    and for you all master of the English language, get off your high horse.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 13, 2015 at 7:11 pm #

      Exactly. The printing of money is the prerogative of the Government alone. It must never be for profit. That was the downfall of America back in 1913 – leading to the World Wars to force the rest of the world into this pyramid scam.

  22. Florida Power July 13, 2015 at 12:39 pm #

    Greece has religious links with Russia via the Eastern Church. But Greece is a member of NATO. Something tells me the USA has a dog in this hunt.

    • marzo@cox.net July 13, 2015 at 12:42 pm #

      who’s hunting what? Another conspiracy theory? Please explain…

      • Florida Power July 13, 2015 at 12:52 pm #

        Idiomatic expression.

        Translation: USA has an interest.

        Elaboration: USA has a lot of very big aggressive dogs.

  23. marzo@cox.net July 13, 2015 at 12:43 pm #

    bankers have no religion, unless the sacrament is money.

    • pequiste July 13, 2015 at 2:15 pm #

      You got it wrong Marzo;

      The Banksters are Devil worshipping Satanists and will lead this current world into Hell on Earth when their money game hits the concrete bunker (Cheyenne Mountain style) wall of reality. It’s just a matter of when.

      Money is just the marker for the game — the real sacrament for the monsters is POWER.
      .

      • seawolf77 July 14, 2015 at 11:45 am #

        Exactly. Mystery Babylon is the banker’s religion, and human sacrifice is their sacrament.

  24. FincaInTheMountains July 13, 2015 at 12:45 pm #

    “If you woke up tomorrow and all your roads and bridged are fixed would you care where the money came from? And how’s that going to cause inflation?” — Marzo

    Essentially, you are correct, but that is a very delicate balance and should be carefully planned by professionals. For instance, if building materials or machinery have to be purchased abroad, it may trigger negative trade balance, which under normal condition will lead to currency devaluation. If too much spent on the net salaries after taxes, it may cause undue price inflation. If the built infrastructure is not causing increase in tangible goods production, it also may cause consumer price inflation. That what the real economic theory is all about.
    Good news, the existing supercomputers could calculate pretty accurately the model of economic development and the need for money under day-to-day conditions, so negative consequences could be avoided. If there is available room for new money to be injected into economy, the government should do it free of charge – without letting bankers have too much from the top.

    Banks under such conditions are also necessary, but more for fiscal project management and fiscal control – say if you are building your house, that you are not overpaying for certain construction materials or certain works on your future house.

    • marzo@cox.net July 13, 2015 at 1:01 pm #

      sorry I don’t buy those inflationary theories.
      Inflation is a gosh, and invention, a scare crows
      Inflation occurs only when your money is loosing buying power for real for all practical purposes, such as you lost a war, a dictator has taken over your country and funneled billions to off shore accounts.
      We drinks gallons of coffee every week, coffee that we don’t grow here but that doesn’t cause inflation, but if a beetle kills coffee plants that will make the cost of coffee go up and your money will have less purchasing power in the coffee department, I suppose you can call that real inflation….and government subsidies will kick in…wow….at that point I’ll stop drinking coffee

      • FincaInTheMountains July 13, 2015 at 1:09 pm #

        “Inflation is a gosh, and invention, a scare crows”

        I have a very good memory: 5 years ago I was buying a carton of milk for 25 pesos, pound of coffee for 65 pesos, and a pack of cigarette for 60 pesos.

        Now I am paying 50 pesos for a carton of milk, 210 pesos for a pound of coffee and 140 pesos for a pack of cigarette.

        What do you call that, memory lapse?

        • sprawlcapital July 13, 2015 at 6:35 pm #

          Why, during the past five years, did you not quit smoking cigarettes? You would have so much more energy if you quit smoking–you could master several more languages!

      • Q. Shtik July 13, 2015 at 2:12 pm #

        I was thinking of writing something really snarky here (about Econ 101 and command of the English language) but then I said “but what for? What would be the use?”

        • Q. Shtik July 13, 2015 at 2:16 pm #

          This was a reply to Marzo, not Finca.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 13, 2015 at 7:16 pm #

      The Federal Reserve Bank is not Federal, there are no Reserves, and it’s not a Bank.

      It’s a financial instrument of conquest owned by the Rothschild and their associates. Not American by any stretch of the imagination. American Sovereignty was renounced in 1913.

      • seawolf77 July 14, 2015 at 11:44 am #

        That is the definition of a bank: a financial instrument of conquest.

  25. Helen Highwater July 13, 2015 at 12:59 pm #

    Chris Hedges says “We are all Greeks now” in this excellent article at http://www.commondreams.org/views/2015/07/13/we-are-all-greeks-now?mc_cid=37048d4272&mc_eid=98791c5797

    • marzo@cox.net July 13, 2015 at 1:06 pm #

      that means we are all f…..
      I have a hard time believing that
      even if we balance the budget and start paying off the debt, which by the way we are doing in part, we’ll never be able to pay it all off
      born in sin do come in
      born in debt no regret
      austerity wrecks a nation’s economy, make the poor poorer and the rich richer.

  26. marzo@cox.net July 13, 2015 at 1:14 pm #

    how much is the Parthenon worth?

    • pequiste July 13, 2015 at 2:22 pm #

      Forget it: the Greek government is going to have to make the place a catering hall and is probably going to end up rented out to Diddy and the whole Southhampton crew for some wild parties. Maybe even have ( le specialite de maison) some of the special sammiches Jim was mentioning.

      Besides the Elgin Marbels at the British Museum and the Venus De Milo at the Louvre are staying put.

      The Turks are really loving this.

  27. MisterDarling July 13, 2015 at 2:16 pm #

    The tender music of JHK’s polemical prose sustains another week as political poltroons present themselves for painful pounding, and the results are in:

    “…citizen-patrons leave the table resigned to yet another bout of food poisoning as the music of universal upchuck rings across the European Union from Helsinki to Lisbon.”-J H K.

    The probability of a last-minute betrayal was high enough to warrant a ‘plan B’ in the event of a “sudden but inevitable betrayal” occurred. Apparently some particularly stupid bastards refuse to realize that drop-kicking the Greeks out *was* the least painful option this late in the process, as JHK said:

    “Personally, I would expect the gasoline bombs to be flying around Syntagma Square before the middle of the week.”

    By now it should be completely clear that a political solution is not possible with the Troika and their minions, leaving the people with their backs to the wall no choice… save one.

    And, I wash my hands of this…

  28. seawolf77 July 13, 2015 at 3:31 pm #

    Is Greece the snowflake that starts the avalanche? I would think a bigger snowflake like Spain or Italy is required. Today 70 years after the event, no one has suggested the real reason for World War 2 was to steal all the gold from the people of the world. Conceal the crime in a war. That is the modus operandi of the elite. They have spent the last 70 years getting us to believe that with the push of a button they can destroy the world. HA! I say. Prove it. Let’s see a nuclear explosion today. Let’s see it recorded with digital cameras. I for one am sick of seeing that same old rerun that looks sooooo fake now. It’s like watching the original “King Kong” or “Star Wars.”

    • Frankiti July 13, 2015 at 5:08 pm #

      Nuttier than a squirrel turd… and this site attracts them like a suet cake.

      • seawolf77 July 16, 2015 at 10:22 am #

        You should know sweetie.

    • mercpl July 13, 2015 at 8:47 pm #

      Nuclear weapons do need to be recharged every now and then. The reason is that because they are radioactive they will decay below critical mass after a certain amount of time. I’m wondering how well the Russians have maintained theirs.

  29. BackRowHeckler July 13, 2015 at 5:23 pm #

    Not to worry. Tuned into a local AM sports talk radio program today whilst working around the property.

    All Star Game coming up! Home Run Derby! $20 million per year salaries are commonplace, a decent ball player making a mere $5 million is considered underpaid. You could tell people who call in, all men, in the middle of the workday (I work at nite) are deeply emotionally invested in the fate of their favorite team, their favorite player, the upcoming series, what trades need to be made, who needs to be cut, who needs a better contract, about the whole construct of professional mass spectator sports (which I believe is not really sports but a highly specialized form of work) You can immerse yourself in this stuff and not really know or care what’s going on in the outside world, and really suffer no consequence for it.

    brh

    • mercpl July 13, 2015 at 8:52 pm #

      Yes, sport is the new opiate of the masses. Much more effective than religion. I used to ignore sport and worry about the problems of the world. Then I realised that I was suffering from clinical depression and that my sports-mad friends were much happier than me.

      Ignorance really is bliss!

      So what did I do? I gave up the anti-depressant medication and conciously threw myself into following the local sports team. I joined my friends at the game, drank lots of beer and spoke lots of shit.

      I still struggle to care about who won or who got injured or who kicked a goal, but more beer fixes that.

      You should try it.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 13, 2015 at 9:22 pm #

        Nice insight. Most people can’t create conscious addictions and obsessions. If you can create them, you can destroy them as well.

        I’ve done the same thing: go to a bar or party with people, watch my reality begin to constrict into consensus tunnel realities the more that I drank. Then watch my reality begin to expand again as I sobered. Don’t forget to watch the other end in other words.

      • BackRowHeckler July 13, 2015 at 11:18 pm #

        I have.

        drank oceans of beer after countless town league softball games.

        Does that count?

        brh

        • Janos Skorenzy July 14, 2015 at 12:59 am #

          Maybe. Did you realize what an illusion it all was? Did you watch your consciousness get soft and sloppy or did it (you) just get soft and sloppy?

          It’s alright to enjoy illusion if you’re conscious. After all, what isn’t when one really looks? The game must go on and enjoyment is part of it. All that being said, it sounds like fun if you know the players, fans, and don’t have to pay much (or anything) to watch. Completely in line with Jim’s vision of localism.

          Some don’t look too much because they fear that things will crumble if they do, evaporating like a dew drop in the morning sun or collapsing under one’s weight like bad ice or a termite eaten chair. But it’s not the looking and knowing that does this, but one’s emotional reaction that gives you away. You can stay married even if you know that you marriage is mostly an illusion, as long as you (generic) can keep her from knowing that’s how you feel. In other words, as long as it’s a comfortable illusion. Who knows? She may be feeling the same. Don’t talk about it – that would kill the illusion unless you are both more advanced than I think you probably are – and advanced in the same way.

  30. BackRowHeckler July 13, 2015 at 5:28 pm #

    News: Fifty cent, Curtis Jackson, Hip Hop Artist, ex con, and owner of the 40 room mansion around the corner, filed for bankruptcy today. The guy is broke. The mansion is crumbling.

    brh

    • Therian July 13, 2015 at 5:38 pm #

      I wonder how many “dill holes” will attend his funeral? 🙂

    • Petro July 14, 2015 at 6:57 pm #

      That’s Fitty Sen.

  31. mercpl July 13, 2015 at 8:44 pm #

    Former Greek finance minister Yanis Varoufakis gives his first post-resignation interview…

    Very interesting insider perspective of the crisis.

    http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/yanis-varoufakis-on-greek-crisis/6616430

  32. ozone July 13, 2015 at 8:49 pm #

    Many close observers are agreeing with JHK that nothing good will come from this legal looting. Why, here’s one ri’cheer!

    “The people here in Greece are being forced to pay for years for something they were never a part of, and that they never profited from. The profits all went to a corrupt elite. And if there’s one thing Don Corleone could tell you, it’s that that’s a bad business model. Because it leads to war, to people being killed, to unrest, and all of that is bad for business.

    I must admit, I thought the Germans were smarter than this. They’re not. That much is overly obvious now. No matter what happens next, deal or no deal on Greece, and that’s by no means a given yet, don’t let the headlines fool you, no matter what happens, Germany loses.

    It’s not just about Greece, it’s about the whole EU. The Troika thinks that by scaring the living daylights out of the periphery, its power will increase. They even think it’ll work with France. Good luck with that. They’ll be facing Marine Le Pen soon, and Podemos, and M5S, and these antics will not work on them.”
    — Raul Ilargi Meijer

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-07-13/germany-just-killed-its-golden-goose

    {A little paraphrasement if we might: “How can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your shit sam’ich!!” }

    • Janos Skorenzy July 13, 2015 at 9:25 pm #

      Well said. The French Fascists may well be the salvation of Europe. If one major Nation says no, that may be the ball game. As Marie said, what are they going to do? Invade?

    • ZrCrypDiK July 16, 2015 at 7:22 pm #

      OMFG, it took me a while – *RIGHT HERE*! Let’s be totally honest – when the IMF is involved, what “exactly” is their history? It’s loaning at usury rates, and when the debt comes due, seizing physical assets. Isn’t that how they “JUST DO IT”?!?

  33. wpa--ccc July 13, 2015 at 10:01 pm #

    brh: “News: Fifty cent, Curtis Jackson, Hip Hop Artist, ex con, and owner of the 40 room mansion around the corner, filed for bankruptcy today.”

    Therian: “I wonder how many “dill holes” will attend his funeral?”

    ========——–

    They throw funerals for bankruptcy now? Makes sense. A materialistic culture believes if you are bankrupt you might as well be dead.

    • BackRowHeckler July 13, 2015 at 10:33 pm #

      ‘Fitty’ ain’t dead.

      I expect to see him cruising by here any day in his Escalade. Its got these wheels where, when he stops, the rims keep spinning.

      brh

  34. Janos Skorenzy July 13, 2015 at 10:12 pm #

    El Chapo calls Trump a fucking White Faggot. El Chapo for President, right Finc, WPC, Be, Wage, etc, etc?

    http://www.dailystormer.com/mexican-drug-lord-el-chapo-escapes-from-prison-again-may-have-threatened-the-donald-on-twitter/

    • Janos Skorenzy July 14, 2015 at 12:42 am #

      A Mexican Criminal has more patriotism for his country than our so called Leaders do for America. Thus Crime is it gets big enough becomes war. And criminal gangs, if big enough become armies, and if victorious, Nations.

      El Chapo means Shorty I believe. Will he join Napoleon, Hitler, and other short men who became conquerors? No doubt countless masochistic White Liberals would greet him as a Liberator if he chose to take on America after consolidating Mexico.

      • mercpl July 16, 2015 at 6:39 am #

        Napolean being short is one of those lies perpetrated by the victor. He was actually about 5′ 7″. Some confusion came about because the pre-metric French inch is about 10% longer than the English inch. So 5′ 2″ in French inches is about 5′ 8″ in English inches.

        Also his Imperial Guard were all very tall (they had a min entry height of 6 feet) so he always looked short by comparison.

        Average height of common people was also much shorter than today.

        But it’s one of those historical myths that will probably never die.

  35. Janos Skorenzy July 13, 2015 at 10:20 pm #

    The kind of passionate orations of Demosthenes put forward against Phillip of Macedon, who was conquering Greece, gained their own generic name: a philippic. This is the art form I aspire towards the most – because it is the most necessary and because I enjoy it the most and because it is the one I am best at.

    To destroy an opponent with words, either written or spoken, is this not praiseworthy and the root of peace? If you can destroy him with words, you need not do so with arrows. Where, where are my enemies of old? Dale, Wage, Turk, Dee? I would disinter you and bury you all over again!

  36. Janos Skorenzy July 14, 2015 at 12:48 am #

    Looks like a slow week. People are bored with the Greek debacle and how it’s dragging on. Just collapse already, will ya? I want Life to progress and my metals to go up while its at it.

    Since people are bored with Greece, guess we’ll have to talk about Trump and White Nationalism some more. Somebody’s got to keep the lights on here. They’re going out all over Europe – and wont be lit again in our lifetime.

    • BackRowHeckler July 14, 2015 at 3:49 am #

      Slow week?

      What about this good news.

      The ban against tranvestites serving in the US Army has been removed, it was announced Monday.

      Part of the new war winning formula, which would have seemed rather strange to Pershing or Theodore Roosevelt, but is perfectly acceptable now.

      Question, do you think the Chinese and Russian armies will reciprocate, as a gesture of goodwill, diversity and fairness?

      The other good news is the Boy Scouts will heartily accept gay adult scout leaders starting this week, and will be availabe to take your young son on overnight camping trips in the near future. Mom and dad take note.

      brh

      • Janos Skorenzy July 14, 2015 at 4:26 am #

        Have you seen some of those Chinese Lady Soldiers on parade? Pretty sharp and nice legs too. I’d take them over trannies any day.

        We can only pray that Trump is the One that we’ve been waiting for – the White Man on a White Horse. The Corn King, the One who sacrifices himself for the Land. Or Corn Pone if you want to be dismissive. But at this point, why the hell would any one want to do that? It’s clear we’re not voting our way out of this mess since most people are fools, lamers, or rogues. We need a coup, but one lead by a good Man.

      • S M Tenneshaw July 14, 2015 at 4:43 am #

        And all this gay shit will put everybody back to work at good jobs paying a fair wage.

        C’mon everybody, do The Social Issue Shuffle!!!

      • sprawlcapital July 15, 2015 at 10:00 pm #

        BRH: . . . do you think the Chinese and Russian armies will reciprocate, as a gesture of goodwill [good will], diversity and fairness?

        Again a word combination issue: as one word goodwill is an adjective, and should modify a noun. As two words it is a noun, will, modified by an adjective, good.

        As a gesture of good will, Binny bought oil from Iran. He made a goodwill gesture in his buying oil from Iran. [Sorry if I spelled your name wrong Mr. Netanyahu. 🙂 ]

  37. jloughrey July 14, 2015 at 3:05 am #

    Jim, I’m sure you’ve mentioned this before, but France’s economy is also in the toilet. A close friend of mine in Portland recently bought a 3,000 square foot rustic stone house in the bucolic Loire Valley for $57,000 US dollars. That price would not even buy a half-bath here. She is helping a friend buy another home there for $45,000 US dollars. (My friend is of Dutch origin and her husband is a French national). The reason for such bargain-basement prices? Parisians are dumping their summer vacation homes faster than day-old baguettes in a desperate attempt to downscale in the rapidly contracting economy, so the real estate market is flooded with homes for sale. If I had the means, I’d move there, too, for the culture and gentler pace of life.

  38. FincaInTheMountains July 14, 2015 at 6:16 am #

    What is behind US – Iran nuclear talks

    The US-Iran agreement is President Obama’s second choice after the failure of the sharing of the Greater Middle East with Russia, in 2013. During the first Geneva conference on Syria (but in her absence), Washington planned to charge Moscow with the task of controlling the Arab nations and ensuring the safety of Israel, home to more than a million ex-Soviets. But the plan failed, not because of Russia, but because of divisions in Obama’s administration. The fans of the Cold War, led by Hillary Clinton and General David Petraeus, sabotaged the agreement.

    What are Russia’s strategic objectives ?

    At the global level, Russia and China continue their project to establish continental routes which will guarantee their economic freedom. At the same time, the United States is using whatever methods it can to prevent them, in order to maintain their domination of the world via the control of maritime routes (« control of common spaces » theory)

    Gas for weapons

    Russia is worried about the consequences of the up-coming sale of Iranian gas to the European Union – a project which had originally been imagined by the United States so that Brussels would be able to do without Russian gas. But from Moscow’s point of view, the risk only exists in the short term, because Russia is progressively turning away from the European Union, and, in the medium term, she will be selling her gas to China. The risk for Russian finances will therefore only exist for a period of about five years, perhaps even less – just the time to build or reinforce the gas pipe-lines through Siberia. In compensation for the sale of Iranian gas instead of Russian gas in Western Europe, Teheran has agreed to buy an enormously expensive quantity of Russian weaponry. The weapons will mostly be S-400 anti-air missiles, capable of destroying any flying object.

    However, this agreement is contrary to Resolution 1929 of the Security Council, which prohibits the exportation of weapons to Iran; a resolution that President Medvedev had decided to support and apply – this provoked a crisis with his Prime Minister of the time, Vladimir Putin. This is why the same Vladimir Putin is now demanding that this resolution be abrogated before the signature of the 5+1 agreements.

    This point should not hurt Washington, but will strengthen the division of the world into two blocks.

    Terrorism

    Russia’s other strategic interest in this matter is the future of Daesh.

    There is no longer any doubt that this terrorist organisation, today commanded by Turkey and financed by part of the Saudi royal family, is ready to abandon Iraq and Syria to move on into the Russian Caucasus. Since September 2014, the management of the Islamic Emirate has been purged of its North African officers, practically all replaced by ex-Soviets, mainly Georgians and Ouzbeks.

    Currently, the interior communications between the officers of Daesh, by walkie-talkie, are no longer in Arab, but almost always in Russian – Arab jihadists are now no more than cannon fodder. Moscow must therefore eliminate Daesh now, in the « Middle East », or else be obliged to fight them later on her own territory, in the Caucasus.

    This is why Russia asked for the presence of a Syrian delegation in Moscow. To the great surprise of the Syrian Minister of Foreign Affairs, Walid Moallem, the delegation did not talk to the Russian counterpart, Sergeï Lavrov, but was received by President Putin, on the 29th June. Putin warmly welcomed him in public, in the presence of the Press, and delivered a long speech explaining the Russian project – Syria must join with Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Turkey to eliminate Daesh. M. Mouallem was then invited to answer questions from the Press, side by side with President Putin, but without ever being able to answer him directly.

    Is the Russian plan feasible ?

    The Russian plan, which is in the interest of all the states of the Greater Middle East, however contravenes the agreements already negotiated between the Saudis and the Israelis. Besides this, it deprives Turkey – and therefore NATO – of its trump card: the control of international jihadists. Its application requires the internal balance of each state implied – a subject which presents a large number of uncertainties, but about which the Russian secret services must be very well-informed.

    In reality, the Russian plan questions the sincerity of the United States. Do they really want peace in the Greater Middle East (in order to transfer their troops to the Far East) and are they ready to deprive themselves of Daesh as a future weapon against Russia ?

    http://www.voltairenet.org/article188124.html

  39. FincaInTheMountains July 14, 2015 at 7:05 am #

    Hopeless agreement

    The European Union nevertheless has managed to reach an agreement with Greece. It appears that everybody have saved face. Germany was able to insist on the inadmissibility of the Greek debt write-off, which would be fatal for her. The Greeks were able o refuse the expanded program of privatization of state property. And yet in this transaction all the main participants lost.

    A simple calculation shows that delay of a new debt crisis will be very short lived, and the situation at the time of its reoccurrence will be by order of magnitude graver.

    The current state of the balance of payments of Greece does not inspire optimism. It is still negative. The lending program for three years is 86 billion Euros. The privatization program of the Greek property is only 50 billion. Thus, even if a miracle happens and the Greek balance of payments will be at least zero, over the next three years the amount of Greek debt will increase by at least 40 billion Euros. If things remain as they are now, then all 50-60 billion. Given that the economy itself will be reduced in the same period by 15% more.

    But the fire had to be put out today or at least contained. Now all pretend that nothing special had happened. But hardly anyone is fooled by that.

    Greece, as a debtor, and Germany as the main lender lost. Both countries will only become poorer. So who won?

    In Europe, France has won more than anyone else. For her, the external stabilization of the situation means ongoing access to credit at a normal rate, concealing the true state of affairs in the country, which is hardly better than in the same of Italy and Spain.

    China has won, who is essentially stuck with European debt as a creditor. It got a reprieve, during which they will try at least in part to save their investments or gain access to the European technology, most likely, both.

    US have won too. Hotbed of tension in the same Greece is not gone, but only is masked for a time and to easily break out again at any moment. After all, Greece could frustrate the implementation of its obligations even today, or in a month. Even without this economic and financial situation in Europe has shown its extreme weakness, which should provide a good rate of capital flight to the US from Europe.

    That the Greek crisis was for after all. Although if reaching an agreement would have failed, and Europe had to go with the Greek debt write-off, winning by the United States would be more obvious and substantial. Now they would have to wonder if it would be possible to collapse Europe before collapsing themselves.

    But the main thing that surprises and discourages in this story, is that no one wants to solve real problems in real ways. All are just trying even for a day or two to try to ward off collapse.

    Hopelessness.

  40. FincaInTheMountains July 14, 2015 at 7:48 am #

    Iran nuclear talks: ‘Historic’ agreement struck

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33518524

    Well, looks like the victory for Obama-Putin secret pact: after all they performed a Russian Imperial Anthem during the latest 4th July celebration not for nothing.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC52cUP2PVo

    • FincaInTheMountains July 14, 2015 at 7:53 am #

      If I am not mistaken in prognosis, Islamic State is fucking finished.

    • Frankiti July 14, 2015 at 4:51 pm #

      get your own f*cking blog

  41. QuantumOfIdleness July 14, 2015 at 8:27 am #

    Thanks, JHK. You just gave me cause to find out who Diddy is. I must admit that sometimes ignorance IS bliss.

  42. nsa July 14, 2015 at 9:00 am #

    BRH,
    Good news! Was driving by the local armed forces enlistment office and spotted the tranny WPA talking to the recruiting officer. You have it all wrong….american trannies are quite scary and could be used as shock troops, followed up by the grotesque lesbos with air support from the flying fairies….and maybe some of those MS13 immigrants with face tats could be enlisted as officers..it will take a lot of vodka for the russkies not to turn tail.

  43. seawolf77 July 14, 2015 at 9:23 am #

    You go to a bank to get a mortgage. He creates money out of this air. He gives it to the guy selling the house. You pay the banker a consistent income stream for the next 30 years. It’s the biggest scam you could ever imagine. In the end the banks own everything, and they did nothing to get it all.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 14, 2015 at 3:16 pm #

      Mortgage – from the root Mort meaning Death. Literally mortgage is a date with death.

  44. FincaInTheMountains July 14, 2015 at 10:30 am #

    “You go to a bank to get a mortgage. He creates money out of thin air.” — seawolf77

    Well, first off, banks do not print money – the FED does, banks just borrow it from the FED and only get the difference between the FED rate and what it charges to the customer.

    The FED does not get the use of all printed money either: according to US law they pay 100% Federal income tax on all money they made on lending operations. (After deducting operational expenses).

    Secondly, bank needs to keep certain percentage of outstanding loans as reserves – so they do need to have their own capital, but it is only a fractional coverage.

    And finally, what do you suggest we do? Wait till the bank accumulated enough money of its customers savings so it could lend to the mortgage borrower? If we do that, instead of paying 30 years on your mortgage, you’d be waiting at least 10 years to get a loan to buy your house.

    So what do we get, old Soviet-style system when people were waiting for many years to get their own dwelling?

    The real problem is not printing money out of the thin air – that’s a norm, but who gets money first and in what priority and who get to make this decision.

    • seawolf77 July 14, 2015 at 11:09 am #

      Baloney. The Fed is bank. Please refrain from using a false dichotomy. It is not a choice between capitalism and communism. Printing money evolved from real money. Back in the day a note represented real money i.e. gold and silver. The bankers realized they were sitting on alchemy’s secret. They could create wealth out of thin air. You didn’t even need any lead. There’s a reason the word bond is in bondage. What I am suggesting is going back to pre World War 1 days where everyone was their own central bank. Wealth cannot be stolen from you except through war, but we know this trick now. They won’t be able to steal our gold and silver again like they did in World War 2.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 14, 2015 at 3:05 pm #

        Also there’s another difference Finc knows but he’s not going to mention. Even if the economy was growing, and we wanted to use the fractional reserve system, why not just let the Government print more notes? Why do they have to be loaned into existence by for profit banks? Edison and Fr Coughlin made this distinction generations ago. By definition, we can never pay back our debt if our currency is loaned into existence. That is bondage indeed – to foreign bankers with unknown agendas.

        We are of the Builder Race and Finc is of the Banker race. The gap can never be surmounted. They have an Agenda that has absolutely nothing to do with our well being.

        • AKlein July 14, 2015 at 3:44 pm #

          Perhaps you might appeal to Fincaln to declare a Jubilee.Shouldn’t that be anathema to a Banker race? But of course, I suppose the benefits of Jubilee inured only to Israelites. I could be wrong though; maybe they inured to gentiles too,

      • trypillian July 17, 2015 at 12:41 am #

        Actually, they did steal gold from basement vaults in the twin towers on – you guessed it – September 11, 2001. Since the value was the paltry sum of 500 billion bucks nobody wants to talk about it. Moreover, three (3) trillion bucks of bearer bonds vanished into thin air. Since that’s they came from in the first place, I guess folks think it’s fair enough.

        You couldn’t make this stuff up. It really happened, honest!

  45. FincaInTheMountains July 14, 2015 at 12:42 pm #

    “Baloney. The Fed is bank” == seawolf77

    Exactly. Arguing with Americans almost always involve pure emotions and repeating ideological cliches, not logical arguments.

    You, guys, have to work on that a little – you are becoming more ideologized than we, Russians, used to be back in the USSR times.

    • seawolf77 July 14, 2015 at 2:51 pm #

      I am a political atheist. I have no ideology. I am just saying the current monetary system cannot endure because there is no more growth. All the cheap energy is gone. Deficit spending made sense when a borrowed dollar created 2 or 3 dollars worth of GDP. Today it produces .03 or 3 cents.

  46. wpa--ccc July 14, 2015 at 2:25 pm #

    “After months and months of negotiation, the United States, five other world powers and Iran have signed an agreement that will prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon — in exchange for the elimination of international financial sanctions.

    That deal was possible because of monumental diplomatic effort. It began when the Obama Administration forged a coalition of the world’s major powers to invoke the sanctions in the first place. Then the United States persuaded those same powers to stick together until they got deal that actually cuts off all of the major pathways for Iran to obtain a nuclear bomb. Altogether an extraordinary achievement.

    And remember, the agreement was achieved because the administration successfully maintained a truly international sanctions regime that included Russia and China as well as the major European powers.” –Robert Creamer

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/a-vote-against-iran-nucle_b_7791952.html

    • Janos Skorenzy July 14, 2015 at 3:13 pm #

      Creamer? What kind of name is that? Can you imagine the shit he must have gone through as a kid with that name? He’s damaged goods, I’ll warrant. Probably wants revenge on all the “norms” who made his life a living hell.

  47. Being There July 14, 2015 at 3:21 pm #

    Why Greece’s Debt is Illegal

    Listen to Michael Hudson and why there is no framework for a national govt. to pay on debt.

    The Neoliberals are asking for islands, Parathanon roads and gaslines all to be sold to their cronies.
    When Russia offered to buy some of the assets at a higher price it was refused by the creditors.

    http://michael-hudson.com/2015/07/why-greeces-debt-is-illegal/

    • malthuss July 14, 2015 at 10:03 pm #

      I read Mr Forbes was island shopping [commoners go island hopping, if they can] YEARS ago.

  48. Being There July 14, 2015 at 3:22 pm #

    Parthenon —sorry I thought I was talking about Indian Bread:)

  49. wpa--ccc July 14, 2015 at 3:33 pm #

    “Creamer? What kind of name is that?” — Janos

    Nice distraction, Janos. Creamer is an occupational name for a seller of dairy products … a cognate of German Krämer (Kramer). 100% pure Aryan. But the point is Obama managed to do what other presidents have been unable to do: stop Iran from progressing toward or getting a nuclear weapon.

    And Iran was going to get a nuclear weapon, according to the media-spread and fear-mongering lies of previous world leaders.

    1992: Israeli member of parliament Binyamin Netanyahu predicts that Iran was “3 to 5 years” from having a nuclear weapon.

    1992: Israeli Foreign Minister Shimon Peres predicts an Iranian nuclear warhead by 1999 to French TV.

    1995: The New York Times quotes US and Israeli officials saying that Iran would have the bomb by 2000.

    1998: Donald Rumsfeld tells Congress that Iran could have an intercontinental ballistic missile that could hit the US by 2003.

    Obama just stopped Iran in their tracks, using Reagan’s “verify, don’t trust,” and Obama has thereby brought about change we can believe in.

    “The same gang — with the same worldview that brought us the war in Iraq — are back. They were wrong last time — and they are just as wrong this time. They were wrong about everything concerning Iraq and the Middle East — from their claim that Saddam had nuclear weapons — to their argument that the war would last months and we would be greeted as “liberators.” They do not have an ounce of credibility. Why would anyone listen to them?

    By the way, that includes Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who actually testified before Congress at the time, pressing the U.S. to invade Iraq.

    The line that former President Bush famously muffed pertains: fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

    Acting under the misguided leadership of the Neo-Con Republicans in 2003, the United States started a war that kicked over the sectarian hornet’s nest that created a fertile field for the Islamic State, killed hundreds of thousands, wounded millions, displaced millions of refugees, and cost America trillions of dollars. And it is still not really over.” — Robert Creamer

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/a-vote-against-iran-nucle_b_7791952.html

    • Janos Skorenzy July 14, 2015 at 3:56 pm #

      I apologize. My adolescent instincts, both offensive and defensive, got the best of me. I’m for the deal. It doesn’t sound like it’s up to Trump standards since there are no spot checks allowed. So they got the best of us. But it’s better than what the Neo Con warmongers want – which is War with Iran for Israel.

      Why wouldn’t they want the bomb? The New World Order is a threat and the Neo Con contingent of it a very dangerous one indeed. And the Israeli contingent even more so again. Do you think Israel will act alone as it has before? Or is a Trump presidency their ace in the hole – which they will now move forward on?

    • elysianfield July 14, 2015 at 5:06 pm #

      “Obama managed to do what other presidents have been unable to do: stop Iran from progressing toward or getting a nuclear weapon. ”

      Seriously?
      I would bet the farm that Iran has more than a few nuclear weapons at this point in time…why do you think that Israel hasn’t confronted the Iranians recently? Israel has very little value as our cannon fodder in the Middle East currently, and will soon have to confront reality…we will cut them loose.

    • Florida Power July 15, 2015 at 7:05 am #

      Does the word “Libya” resonate at all? The neo-con destabilization of MENA continues regardless of the oval office occupant. The fact that Netanyahu was sounding the alarm back in 1992 ought to register a bit more than it apparently does: what happened? Where’s the explosion? Iran has been 3-5 years from “the bomb” for over a decade now. We hear that now the Saudis want “the bomb” but without a peep from the guardians of the World Order. So the Saudis, if the stories we are fed can be believed, who are at least as nutty as the Iranians when it comes to things Islamic, get to have a bomb because they are “our allies” whereas the Iranians with whom the USA has been meddling since the Mossadegh coup in the 1950’s do not? Where’s our sense of justice and fair play?

      Perhaps “the bomb” has not much to do with it at all, and is fed to the masses because they are not very smart and need simple things to create sense out of the chaos. Fear is always good. As a selling tool it works as well as greed.

      Moreover, the coalition forged by the mighty Obama has been violating the sanctions for years anyway. This historic achievement simply codifies reality.

      One expects the HuffPo and the Obama cheering section to spin it as evidence their man truly is a colossus striding the earth. Whatever. I smell petrodollars.

      Could be with Russia the USA went a sanctions too far. The economic relationships are evolving and the dollar-as-enforcer’s days are numbered.

      Please Iran — please sell your oil in dollars. The shale business is crushed anyway (our good allies the Saudis have seen to that) and just maybe we can buy a few more years of la dolce vita before the system resets.

  50. barbisbest July 14, 2015 at 3:53 pm #

    Seersucker may be nice this time of year. You could bring up at the party about the panel of scientists and academics who stated last week that the human species is running out of time to save itself from climate change. Tell Dippy hey.

  51. FincaInTheMountains July 14, 2015 at 4:46 pm #

    “Why do they have to be loaned into existence by for profit banks?” — Janos

    Janos, you are thoroughly confused on the issue. “For profit banks” do not emit US currency, only FED does that.

    Is FED “for profit” in a usual way? Well, when you are supposed to pay 100% income tax to US Treasury, as FED is obliged under the law, it’s kind of hard to be “for profit” in a usual way.

    So, let’s say the FED printed a billion dollars in exchange for 2% one year Treasury bill and decided, instead of selling that bill on the market, put it on its own balance. In a year, the FED will make $20 million in interest on that note, out of which it supposed to pay exactly $20 million in taxes back to US Treasury.

    The financial control of the Nation is arranged in much more intricate way than Alex Jones and others want you to think.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 14, 2015 at 6:31 pm #

      Remember, Bernanke testified before Congress and admitted that during the financial crisis, hundreds of billions of dollars were transferred to European Banks. When asked why and to which banks, he answered, “I don’t know”, much like any defiant school boy. He was nervous and maybe a bit annoyed – certainly not terrified. He know nothing was going to happen to him since he was working for the people who control America ultimately. Taking a bit of shit now and then was just part of his job.

      What happened was that the sheep were sheared. That’s why they keep America around, and of course for the military.

      http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/10-things-that-every-american-should-know-about-the-federal-reserve

  52. FincaInTheMountains July 14, 2015 at 5:12 pm #

    “Why wouldn’t they want the bomb?” == Janos

    Really, why would they, if now they are going to get all Russian antiaircraft C-400s they want and close the skies over Iran for any “humanitarian” bombing by US or Israel.

    The story was never about the bomb.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 14, 2015 at 6:14 pm #

      Your efforts to limit the dignity and power of Iran have been noted. Russia and Iran are allies. Russia wants a powerful Iran as a buffer between it and the voracious New World Order.

      Having a bomb is very much the issue – as everyone but you seems to know.

      • Q. Shtik July 14, 2015 at 6:50 pm #

        Having a bomb is very much the issue – as everyone but you seems to know. – Janos

        =============

        Iran will not abide by whatever terms were just agreed to……. nor will Greece.

  53. Q. Shtik July 14, 2015 at 6:42 pm #

    “Creamer? What kind of name is that?” — wpa quoting Janos

    … a cognate of German Krämer (Kramer). 100% pure Aryan. – wpa

    ===============

    Jim Cramer, CNBC is Jewish, has a net worth of $100M or more and is 5’5″ tall.

    To address Janos’s other point about short over-achievers like Napoleon and Mussolini….. Hitler was either 5’8″, 5’9″ or 5’10”, depending which Google answer you want to believe. I’ll go with 5’8″ since men generally lie on the high side. Adult German males 20-39 years old in 2007 averaged 5’9″.

    Height measurements can vary more than a half inch depending when during the day the measurement is taken.

    Therefore, it is safe to describe Hitler as being of average height. His sidekick Goebbels was a shrimp.

    The other key CNBC journalists: Bill Griffeth, Tyler Mathison, Simon Hobbs, and an Asian guy whose name I forget, are all shorter than Kelly Evans who is 5’10”.

    I always wondered whether men of small stature actually try harder (Napoleon Complex) and thus seem to have a greater rate of success. Dannyboy, how tall are you? 4’10”?

    I am 6′ tall which I blame on making me stupid and relatively unsuccessful.

    • malthuss July 14, 2015 at 10:00 pm #

      What shrinkage do old people have?

    • Janos Skorenzy July 15, 2015 at 12:52 am #

      Remember Kramer vs Kramer? Change it to Creamer vs Creamer and what do you have?

      • Lawfish July 15, 2015 at 8:32 am #

        I preferred the SNL skit Kraemer v. Godzilla, but then I go for humor.

  54. FincaInTheMountains July 14, 2015 at 7:15 pm #

    “Remember, Bernanke testified before Congress and admitted that during the financial crisis, hundreds of billions of dollars were transferred to European Banks.” == Janos

    What “transferred” means? They’ve been loaned to the Europeans, and let me remind you that back in 2008-2009 the EUR/USD rate was around 0.7, now it is around 0.85 – that’s a shit load more Euros they are going to pay back than they borrowed at the time.

    Say, European bank wants to borrow 1 billion Euros back in 2008. Simple calculation tells us that they have to borrow 1.4 Billion dollars in 2008 exchange rate. Now, even the loan was at 0%, they have to pay back 1.4 Billion dollars which is at current exchange rate is 1.19 Billion Euros. 190 million Euros is a pure profit, again 100% taxable to US Treasury.

    FED is doing not such a shabby work for you, Janos.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 15, 2015 at 12:40 am #

      Crazy stuff. Tribesmen bundling our money off to other Tribesmen. Think we’ll ever see any of it ever again? Who knows since the money was just digital zeroes to begin with. It’s your game and you all are going to always win – until we knock over the board.

      We shouldn’t have to borrow our own currency into existence. It goes against all sense and all Law. It’s just a scam.

  55. FincaInTheMountains July 14, 2015 at 7:23 pm #

    “Having a bomb is very much the issue – as everyone but you seems to know.” — Janos

    I presume by “everyone” you mean CNN. FOX, CBS, NBC, NPR and BBC?

    • Janos Skorenzy July 15, 2015 at 1:00 am #

      So now you admit your tribally manufactured consensus reality is an illusion? How topically convenient.

      Finc has never deigned to talk this much too me. We can see how close paying back our national debts is to his heart.

  56. FincaInTheMountains July 14, 2015 at 7:36 pm #

    Anyway, Moscow’s rumor mill has it that Hillary got a court summons on the charges of racketeering and corruption.

    May be that explains sudden resolution of Iranian crisis?

  57. FincaInTheMountains July 14, 2015 at 8:26 pm #

    Ukraine seems to be getting rid of the effects of the Maidan in Mukachevo, rather than in Donbass, and without the help of Russian troops.

    In Mukachevo, Ukraine, for several days now there is a fighting between Neo-Nazi “Right Sector” and Kiev’s troops. Battalions of the “Right Sector” were reported to leave their positions in Donbass and relocating to more sensitive to Kiev’s regime areas, like Kiev for example.

    Wouldn’t surprise me if Ukrainian President Poroshenko asks Putin to finally for Christ sake send Russian troops to restore law and order. Watch for the European Union beginning to impose sanctions on Russia for refusing to fight with the territorial battalions of Yarosh’s “Right Sector” in Ukraine.

    And of course, the topping on the cake is the deal between United States and Iran, which allows newly found partners to forget about mutual feelings, and finally do something about Islamic State.

    May be this world still got a chance.

  58. fodase July 14, 2015 at 10:07 pm #

    Denmark, right now, getting 80% of its electricity from the WIND:

    http://energinet.dk/Flash/Forside/UK/index.html

    Windfarms produce approx. 20x more energy than it takes to fabricate them.

    fodase

  59. wpa--ccc July 14, 2015 at 11:03 pm #

    Christmas comes early for Greece.

    The I.M.F. is demanding Greece debt relief as a condition for a bailout. Excellent Greek pudding. Germany becomes IMF’s bitch… who woulda thunk it.

  60. trypillian July 15, 2015 at 1:51 am #

    Nice thought but not intended. To extrapolate; Michelle, the first man, should marry Putin and Bruce should marry another manly spouse. That’s the plan for world peace even if Michelle’s package is bigger than Putins.

  61. JB July 15, 2015 at 6:06 am #

    I think that it is the best for Greece to immediately leave the Eurozone. The problem is that no one really wants to “let go”. When you do, dangerous precedent is created about who has to and has not to pay his/her debts. I personally believe in a balanced budget, but there are many obstacles to it. One of them would be another Greek bailout, which would only postpone things for the near future. What can we tell – autumn is definitely the disastrous season, but summer only breaks records in sales.

  62. BackRowHeckler July 15, 2015 at 7:40 am #

    My neighbors, all big libs with big jobs in education, government, the court system, and medicine, many of whom have moved up here from the NYC area, are a little nervous when discussing the new HUD initiative to build section 8 housing projects in the towns out here and move the esteemed residents of Hartford, New Haven and Bridgeport ghettos out here amongst us. These are people with Obama/Biden stickers on their BMWs and Volvos, down for every lib cause you can think of. But now, to quote the distinguished Rev. Wright, the ‘chickens are coming home to roost”, and nobody is too happy about it, just the thought of the hell reported everyday in the local news, murder, rape, knifings, arson fires, poverty, squalor, filth, dysfunction and general societal breakdown, moving in right next door, in your own neighborhood, and worst of all the public schools, fully funded and the pride of these small towns.

    About 20 years ago some ‘affordable housing’ units were built, zoning laws were superseded (as they will be in the new HUD initiatives) and people from the ghetto were shipped out. There was alot of backslapping, gland handing, and high fives by local pols and the media at the moving in ceremony … the chief of police was there, looking tense … since then the place has been the scene of 2 brutal rapes, raids by the DEA, Marshall’ Service, State Police and local police, and this is only for 40 units.

    Its going to be fun watching these people, some very influential with names you would recognize, oppose these HUD measures. Its a delicate subject for these folks, who loath to be called ‘racist’. But now crunch time has arrived, so to speak. Some will move out, some will try to make the best of it, some will emulate other Big Libs and put a big wall around their property and send their kids away to private boarding school … some, locked in by ideology picked up in the 1960s and 70s, will eat the sh-t dished out by pols they’ve supported all their lives, smile, and pronounce how good it tastes.

    brh

    • Lawfish July 15, 2015 at 8:38 am #

      NIMBY. A favorite of hypocritical limousine liberals. Sort of like the self-righteous folks who embrace anthropogenic climate change as fact and call anyone who doubts it an idiot, but still drive around in SUV’s with Obama/Biden bumper stickers and live in big energy-intensive houses and buy lettuce shipped across the country from California. All talk, no action.

      • malthuss July 15, 2015 at 11:26 am #

        ‘Its going to be fun watching these people, some very influential with names you would recognize, oppose these HUD measures.’

        It will be MORE fun if you share their names and addresses etc NOW.

    • malthuss July 15, 2015 at 11:11 am #

      You B-A-S-T-A-R-D you. You know too much.

      Will the libs elect a Black Female Mayor and have an AA Black Female Poleece chief?

      http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/photos/bal-safe-streets-workers-arrested-20150714-embeddedvideo.html

      http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/07/14/police-guns-drugs-seized-at-anti-violence-programs-office/

      Mayor Stephanie Blake Rawlins, a very vocal supporter of the group has no comment.
      Mayor seems to want us to withhold our judgment.

      • BackRowHeckler July 15, 2015 at 2:07 pm #

        I can’t do that, Malt. Most of these are pretty good people, even tho they got their heads up their ass.

        I feel sorry for some of them, ‘specially the ones with young kids. I don’t think they know what they’re in for. By the time they find out it may be too late.

        Malt, that list below is one of the funniest posts in CFN history.

        brh

        • malthuss July 15, 2015 at 8:42 pm #

          I bask in the honeyed words from your sweet lips.

    • elysianfield July 15, 2015 at 11:33 am #

      As Finc has said…”history is a punisher”

      In the late 60’s, in Oakland California, there was a similar social experiment…called the “Turnkey” project. There would be built small, 2 story 6 unit apartments in neighborhoods that were “short on diversity”…they were really nice units, each with a little patio and other amenities. It did not take long for these little cancer cells to metastase into what we, in the business, would call a “beat problem”. All manner of crime would sprout in what was once a quiet, relatively safe neighborhood. Rapes, assaults, thefts, burglaries, stolen auto recoveries,etc. The apartments would take on a “distressed” appearance within a year of occupancy. There were, of course, decent black occupants in many of these apartments, but it only took one or two dysfunctional families in each “Turnkey” to provide the expected results.

      You had only to look at the pin maps that the department kept to see where in the city these units were located…multi-colored pins, in tight bunches, sort of like thistles sprouting on a freshly mown lawn….

      • sprawlcapital July 16, 2015 at 3:00 pm #

        Elysian:

        . . . these little cancer cells to metastase [metastasize] . . .

        • elysianfield July 16, 2015 at 6:17 pm #

          Sprawl,
          Yes, of course “metastasize”…one of the most obscene words in the English language. I stand corrected.

          • sprawlcapital July 16, 2015 at 11:09 pm #

            Elysian,

            A sister-in-law has lung cancer that spread to her bones. Very painful. It’s under control with some advanced drugs.

            I hope you do not have close personal experience with cancer.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 15, 2015 at 2:10 pm #

      As Atticus told Scout, Do you want Negroes moving into our schools, theatres, and world? In other words, you only do if you don’t know anything about Negroes.

  63. BackRowHeckler July 15, 2015 at 9:06 am #

    If they dig up the grave of NB Forrest in Memphis, truly a line has been crossed. There’s no going back.

    Incidentally, as whites become a minority in the United States, perhaps a small minority who knows, expect a lot more of this sort of thing.

    brh

    • malthuss July 15, 2015 at 11:12 am #

      YT is a minority in California.
      The golden welfare state.

      • malthuss July 15, 2015 at 11:27 am #

        Meanwhile around the USA,

        Here is my ongoing, running list of fantastic first names of “teens” and “youths” that I’ve seen in news stories over the past four months… enjoy!

        Zyquabious Romaire Williams (18) Sexual assault (SC)
        Yahdea Brown (19) part of ‘knockout gang’ group (OH)
        Najee Harmon (21) cop killer (WI)
        Dhoruba Shakur (25) public supporter of man who tried to assassinate a police officer (MO)
        Draon Armstrong (21) claimed police brutality when police roughed him up for resisting arrest after not paying metro fare (MN)
        Demaryius Thomas (27) President Obama gave a full pardon to the cocaine trafficking mother of this NFL player (GA)
        Shuntayvious Primes-Willis (15) murder (NE)
        Tajanetta Downing (24) beat up a 72 y.o. Chinese lady (MA)
        Kenoldo Alexis (17) part of gang rape of mentally disabled girl (FL)
        Ajanique Legrand (16) leader of gang of 15-16 year-old girls that mugged Brooklyn residents (NY)
        Trepierre Hummons (21) murdered Cincinnati cop, Sonny Kim (OH)
        Jordyn Wade (16) not the craziest name ever, but notable for being a QUADRUPLE murdered at sixteen! (OH)
        Cudellious Love (59) murdered white woman (AZ)
        Johnren Gaines (17) raped an 11 year-old (LA)
        Shitavious J. Cook (15) 1st degree murder (GA)
        Felony Savage (14) student of amren.com poster (MN)
        Quartavious Davis (19) Serving 162 years for a string of armed robberies (FL)
        Dajerria Becton (15) girl who Cpl. Casebolt detained in infamous “Pool Party” incident (TX)
        Lyndell Dunnigan (15) beat a white man at a public park because “whites ain’t allowed there” (TN)
        K-Vonne Jenkins (21) sex offender (KY)
        Malandus Pearson (32) killed two white teen-age girls while DUI (MS)
        Daquantrius Johnson (21) stealing a wedding ring and other items from a woman who was dying from a brain aneurysm in a Taco Bell (KS)
        Qwinterrious Dodson (22) theft by receiving (GA)
        Antwonetta Jones (22) strangled baby after delivering it and put it in trash compactor (LA)
        Ruhemmeion King (17) 2 counts of felony-murder (GA)
        Xzoyloysius Wood, Jr. (19) shooting suspect (VA)
        Shaquaid Cox (18) rapist and burglar (OH)
        Shanetria Lanier (21) neighbor of Detroit “Freezer Mom” (MI)
        Shontavious Chestnut (25) murdered innocent white in Atlanta Kroger robbery (GA)
        Desunda Brown (18) teen-age girl with Especially Aggravated Kidnapping, Aggravated Robbery and firearm charges (TN)
        Dayvone Malvo (20) arrested for indecent exposure (TX)
        Dominiq Marquan Deloach (18) murdered innocent white bystander to an argument (NC)
        Tariq Jordan (15) murdered innocent white bystander to an argument (NC)
        Yvon Norton Jr. (20) guilty of rape, kidnapping, gross sexual imposition and intimidation (OH)
        Nehemijel Houston (?) guilty of conspiracy to commit murder (NC)
        Centrilia Shardon Leach (?) guilty of conspiracy to commit murder (NC)
        Demarquise Elkins (?) murdered infant (GA)
        DQuan Ingram (21) aspiring bus driver (FL)
        La’el Collins (22) signed 3 year $1.65 deal with Cowboys and is suspect in murder of ex-girlfriend at LSU (LA)
        Carniyka B. (?) sold me a chicken sandwich at Charlotte Airport (NC)
        Johnesda Perry (19) murdered infant (PA)
        Shyrome Jaquane Johnson (25) obstruction of justice in homicide investigation of white 5 year-old girl (SC)
        Rohbanni Wilson (24) sex offender and murderer (FL)
        Ymmacula Pierre (30) female NYPD cop who used credit cards of murder victim (NY)
        Donte Adaryll Noble (41) killed mudshark girlfriend in Spartanburg (SC)
        LeRoya Moore (36) stabbed her 6 and 8 year-old daughters to death (CT)
        Lakecia Hyman (41) high school teacher who embezzled $10,000 from charities (NJ)
        Orinthid Jabbar Hayes (19) sexual assualt (FL)
        Quincinio Canada (24) murdered young marine and his wife in robbery (TX)
        Quinellia Shanice McKoy (24) B&E (NC)
        Jamealia Moore (36) obtained property under false pretenses (NC)
        Dontejio Taft (28) obtained property under false pretenses (NC)
        Younikue Stewart (18) larceny (NC)
        Shaequan Demetrice Johnson (22) common law robbery (NC)
        L-Vic Nicholson (22) possession of stolen property (NC)

        • nsa July 15, 2015 at 12:04 pm #

          Sure this isn’t an NFL team roster?

          • malthuss July 15, 2015 at 8:36 pm #

            Funny. Yes, I recall a footballer named, ‘Quintero’.

        • Florida Power July 15, 2015 at 1:05 pm #

          Could we have a pronunciation guide, please?

          I got as far as Xzoyloysius…

        • Q. Shtik July 15, 2015 at 1:12 pm #

          Malthuss,

          This list is such a rich vein of potential comedy that I’m speechless. (Forward it to SNL.) If asked which first name is most hilariously ridiculous I would be hard-pressed to eliminate ANY from the running but I’ll have to go with:

          Shitavious J. Cook (15) 1st degree murder (GA)

          It’s not hard to guess what his nickname is. That alone might have caused him to kill someone.

          • Therian July 15, 2015 at 3:23 pm #

            A friend of mine’s mother was a social worker in Wilmington, DE and, true story, knew of a woman who named her newborn infant “Female” (which the mother pronounced as “fem-ah-lee”). The mother liked the name put on the newborn’s cradle by the nurses. 🙂 😀 :0

          • Therian July 15, 2015 at 3:32 pm #

            In the given list my personal favorite is Zyquabious Romaire Williams because it’s so UNeuphonious that it’s hysterically funny.

          • malthuss July 15, 2015 at 8:38 pm #

            This is to Therian.

            I hear a rumor one gal, in labor, hear med team mention, ‘Urethra’ and decided that was such a beautiful sounding word she had to name her child that!!!!!

        • Janos Skorenzy July 15, 2015 at 2:20 pm #

          Bravo. I can’t tell if these names are real or just an exaggeration. I am put to shame. You have find you métier. Every man has his steak of genius, his “flaming star” as Elvis put it. Racial humor is yours. This site will aid you in your work – though there is nothing funny about it. We often laugh when we lack the strength to weep.

          http://www.newnation.org/

          • malthuss July 15, 2015 at 8:45 pm #

            Africans luv exaggeration.

            Queen Latifa, Prince, title this and title that.
            Like small children in a fantasy world.

            Heres one discussion,

            http://www.topix.com/forum/afam/TJ28J3IO4B8K9G35O

          • elysianfield July 16, 2015 at 11:23 am #

            I once saw a black female comic on the tube who offered this observation…”Black people name their children for things that are expensive which they cannot afford…Mercedes…Ruby…Car insurance….”

        • malthuss July 15, 2015 at 8:49 pm #

          HORRIFIC CRIMES.

          How many murders are mentioned in that list?

          here are two in a row,

          Johnesda Perry (19) murdered infant (PA)

          Shyrome Jaquane Johnson (25) obstruction of justice in homicide investigation of white 5 year-old girl (SC)

    • Janos Skorenzy July 15, 2015 at 2:24 pm #

      Yes and for just that reason it might be for the best. Better to know now that our rights aren’t going to be respected – and make plans accordingly. Needless to say, some of us already know.

      There have been some large rallies throughout the South in response. They are being ignored by the media in order to keep their momentum going in the manufacture of consent.

  64. fodase July 15, 2015 at 1:03 pm #

    wpa—ccc, tx for reminding me of Christmas, such a nice vibe.

    man it’d be nice to be a kid again with that magical xmas spirit.

    ‘We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars.’

    greece is fast making it obvious to creditors that the superindebted states have no way of repaying what they owe and will need to be forgiven a large chunk

    caveat emptor coming back to bite lenders, who’ll have to console themselves with getting at least sum’pin instead of getting nuttin’

    go Greece, we loves ya.

    after having visited there last year, we hyly recommend it.

    and the beat goes on….nothing new under the sun folks

    Spain getting a paltry 5% of its electricity from the wind as we speak….

    but Denmark getting upwards of 55% from wind+solar as we speak

    idinit great how techmology has always solved mankind’s energy needs?

    just had a great brazilian bar-b-q feast down here, 4ft. ribs and 3-4 other types of meat done over anjico wood.

    sis in law’s 50th, nice bottle of (probably adulterated) imported whisky and plenny of very cold beer in little cups.

    country sux in lots of respects but that isn’t one of ’em.

    in any case, when life gets you down, just say

    fodase

  65. Janos Skorenzy July 15, 2015 at 2:33 pm #

    http://www.vdare.com/articles/americans-murdered-over-weekend-isis-0-immigrants-too-many-to-count?utm_source=7%2F13%2F2015&utm_campaign=UA-18706545-2+&utm_medium=email

    Anne. What else is there to say but Anne. One word, one word that means so much and fills my heart to bursting. The wind whispering seems to be saying it too. The rustling trees answer with the same word.

  66. trypillian July 15, 2015 at 3:00 pm #

    ‘ the European Union meltdown…. will be the financial equivalent of the Black Death’, is more than a metaphor. In point of fact, it is ironic that it will be the reality. Near term human extinction really is near term, to coincide with the monopoly money meltdown.

    World famine. lack of fresh water, heat stroke deaths because of rising temperatures 2, 3 4, 5 degrees C above baseline, chemtrails poisoning the air you breathe with mettalic nano particulates, radionuclides causing immeasurable disease, rampant mutant viruses and superbugs everywhere, will be the reality.

    There will be no return to nostalgic 1830’s way of life. Do you think nuclear power workers, firemen, the police, the military,water,sewer, electrical grid infrastructure and sanitation workers will go to their jobs getting paid with funny money and no food on the table. Not a chance in hell. Have a nice day.

  67. wpa--ccc July 15, 2015 at 3:21 pm #

    “just had a great brazilian bar-b-q feast down here, 4ft. ribs” — fodase

    Four foot long ribs? What were you eating… mastadon?

    The Merkel-provoked riots have begun…

    • Q. Shtik July 15, 2015 at 3:56 pm #

      The Merkel-provoked riots have begun… – wpa

      ============

      Yeah, SEEP-rahs’ caving had nothing to do with it.

  68. wpa--ccc July 15, 2015 at 3:46 pm #

    Obama hit a home run with the Iran deal. Not a single Republican presidential candidate has come up with a better alternative that both stops Iran’s development of a bomb and avoids war with Iran.

    “A good number of Western nonproliferation advocates and arms control experts were satisfied with the Vienna agreement.

    That included Thomas Shea, a veteran former inspector with the IAEA, the U.N.’s atomic agency, who oversaw the design and implementation of safeguards for the world’s evolving nuclear facilities.

    “This is a stunning accomplishment,” said Shea, who is now a Vienna-based consultant, speaking to WorldViews in Washington. “I’ve been a part of this business for 40 years at this point and I’ve never seen anything that begins to approach the comprehensiveness of this agreement.” Let’s give “the haircut” some credit, too. Kerry nailed this agreement down, which forces Iran to dramatically reduce its number of centrifuges. Reagan also gets credit for the “trust but verify” concept that Obama insisted upon and succeeded in getting.

    Obama is having his best year of his presidency… bringing change we can believe in (that the previous four presidents could not achieve) in both foreign and domestic policy. Obama’s legacy is formidable.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 15, 2015 at 4:50 pm #

      What about the lack of spot checks in the Agreement?

      • Janos Skorenzy July 15, 2015 at 4:52 pm #

        Kerry promised. Cronkite lied, America died. Kerry lies, Israel dies.

  69. Janos Skorenzy July 15, 2015 at 4:53 pm #

    http://lastresistance.com/12732/planned-parenthood-is-harvesting-and-selling-aborted-baby-parts/

    Harvest of Shame. How is this any better than Dr Mengele? Or the experiments conducted by the Russian and Chinese Communists?

    • malthuss July 15, 2015 at 8:34 pm #

      This has been going on for years or decades, I read similar in a major paper 5-20 years ago.

      I read something like ‘Genetech will pay 1,500.00 for a babies thymus’.

      huffpo comment,

      Regardless of your stance on abortion, you should find it disturbing when in the video she describes different methods used to get the baby out without harming the parts they need for their buyers. Including rotating the baby to the breech position.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 16, 2015 at 12:43 am #

        And any concern they are causing to the “blob of protoplasm” that has such developed organs?

        Now we begin to see their interest in late term abortions.

  70. wpa--ccc July 15, 2015 at 5:26 pm #

    Yeah, Seep-rahs’ caving [to Merkel‘s intransigence] had nothing to do with it.

  71. Don Wan Quixote July 15, 2015 at 5:29 pm #

    ‘Has anyone noticed the eerie paucity of news emanating from the other hard-luck nations of the EU, namely Spain, Portugal, Italy, and Ireland? The money hole that these deadbeats are in makes Greece look like a dimple in the sand.’

    Oh, I am living in the eye of the hurricane. Here in Spain there is a lot of news from Greece (motto: “if you do not obey Brussels, you’ll become like greeks), but no news from Italia nor Portugal (however in “good times” Portuguese and Spanish people are brothers who are not speaking each others (old angry empires…).
    We also have not news about Ukraine war, ummm.
    We are in summer time, holydays are good to disguise/ignore/censorship ugly news.
    My bosses at regional bureaucracy are meeting with central government because the cannot pay debts to paper and hardware companies in time…
    Last days before my holydays we had 35 ºC at office because air conditioner broke. No electrician wanted to work for regional government: they know that they won’t be pais in reasonable time (less than 3-4 months).
    However, spanish government says we are at full (oh, guess what!) recovery. Ha ha ha…

  72. ZrCrypDiK July 15, 2015 at 8:06 pm #

    Driving a dump-truck up to the sun?
    Is he a soul-man?!?
    (Ghad is a good man?)

    Minutes to midnight, indeed (3?). Same as it evah whuz… (here’s to “hopin'” and “prayin'[LULZ!])” (and “changin'” – Bowie, indeed)…

  73. Q. Shtik July 15, 2015 at 10:43 pm #

    Regarding Malthuss’s list of names, immediately below Shit Cook (my favorite) is Felony Savage (my second favorite). Her mommy gave her a name to live up to.

    • ZrCrypDiK July 16, 2015 at 5:11 pm #

      Even I have to admit, that list is hilarious (so many from NC?). Why doom your child, from day 1, with such hideous given names…

      His list brings to mind a hilarious skit from a Steve Martin movie, where Queen Lativah is on Jerry Springer, and breaking down the race mix names (Black-tino comes to mind). Your buddy Krantz would eat that skit up, hook-line-sinker…

      And Q – why don’t you ever correct your (sockie) Vlad? He makes so many spelling/grammatical/punctuation errors, pretty much every 3rd poast (heh)…

  74. Q. Shtik July 15, 2015 at 11:01 pm #

    it’s so UNeuphonious that it’s hysterically funny. – Therian

    ==================

    How long, I wonder, will it be before a Euphonious Jackson is playing pro football?

  75. Janos Skorenzy July 16, 2015 at 12:40 am #

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/yellen-fed-unwilling-to-comply-with-investigation-surrounding-fomc-leak/

    Accountable to no one in the American Government. Believing that they are NOT a private concern is completely a matter of faith. I’m sure they are accountable to their European shareholders.

  76. FincaInTheMountains July 16, 2015 at 4:36 am #

    Paris intends to suck on the Russian tit (gas pipe)

    Money triumphs over evil. This rule works almost flawlessly. When His Majesty profit looms in a distance, the capitalists are drawn to it like moths to a light, jumping over political obstacles, European solidarity and especially the interests of Ukraine … So, the list of participants of the project “North Stream – 2” very soon “may expand “, because the French gas company Engie is interested in the project.

    Engie – it is the largest private electricity producer in the world. About 35% is owned by the French government since Engie actually is a former French national gas monopoly that was privatized in 2004.

    If everything goes as planned, the team of shareholders of “Nord Stream – 2” will be able to suppress almost any political resistance, especially given the fact that the project has companies with European state participation.

    http://crimsonalter.livejournal.com/67527.html

  77. FincaInTheMountains July 16, 2015 at 5:03 am #

    The Iranian deal – a huge win for Russian diplomacy

    In Syria, there is a war, and Assad holds only due to the support of Russia and Iran, and Iran spends vast resources to support Syria: oil, money, and tens of thousands of volunteers of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards. Continuation of this war, in which thousands of jihadists of Islamic States are exterminated, needs a lot of money, and without lifting of sanctions Iranian economy would break and Iran would become ripe for next successful color revolution.

    There are plenty of “Disgruntled citizens” who pray on smuggled iPhones and dream to go to the “real Starbucks,” not its Iranian look-alike, and the patriotic enthusiasm of the general population suffers from serious economic difficulties. The lifting of sanctions – is a great way to help the country, which by virtue of geography and history is at war with one of the biggest threat to Russia.

    Each ISIS jihadist killed in Syria – is a jihadist who won’t come to fight in Russia and Central Asia, on the borders of Russia. Even if you look at things in the most cynical way, the elimination of jihadists at the hands of the Syrians and Iranians – is the most effective and cheap method of dealing with Islamic State on the distant approaches to Russia. At least in order to increase the chances of Syria and Iran to eliminate the threat before the Russian military would have to become actively involved, Russia should actively participate in the process of lifting the sanctions against Iran.

    The aforementioned analysis of the pros of Iranian deal does not take into account the rest of the positive, including the construction of nuclear power plants in Iran by Russia, the “oil-for-food” deal, which should put Russia into control of the large portion of Iranian oil exports and other areas of cooperation, like huge purchases by Iranians of Russian weaponry.

    Putin and his team could only be applauded. The deal on Iran is a great victory for Russian diplomacy.

    http://politrussia.com/world/iranskaya-sdelka-glupost-257/

  78. FincaInTheMountains July 16, 2015 at 6:00 am #

    Night of the long knives: The Neo-Nazi Right Sector threatens Poland and Poroshenko

    What happens in Ukraine was inevitable. Militants of the “Right Sector”, who have long been dissatisfied with those they had helped to come to power in Ukraine, came out of obedience.

    Bloody shootouts occurred in the city of Mukachevo in the western province of Transcarpathia, close to Polish border. The militants are armed to the teeth – at their disposal, grenade launchers, machine guns, rifles and other firearms.

    Nothing is new under the sun. What is happening now in Ukraine resembles Germany in the 1930s. Initially, Hitler came to power, relying on shock troops of Ernst Rohm, who with terror and murder of opponents cleared the Hitler’s way to the top, and then – on the 30 June 1934 – the massacre of the Fuhrer’s “friend” Ernest and his thugs, which became known in history as “Operation Hummingbird” or “Night of the long knives.”

    Europe begins to understand the danger of what is happening in Ukraine. After all, Hitler initially was courted by London and Paris, who hoped to push him to the East, but instead they got a first blow of the German war machine.

    As a result, the Europe had survived only thanks to the heroism of the Soviet soldiers, who broke the back of the fascist beast. So the West has an occasion to do some serious thinking. The Western strategists have succeeded to tear Ukraine away from Russia, but at what cost?

    In a country where civil war, turmoil and chaos reign, no one can predict how it will end. And they have before their eyes the example of Iraq that was plunged into chaos by the American and British aggression in 2003. Yes, they overthrew Saddam Hussein, but got the terrible enemy – “Islamic state”.

  79. FincaInTheMountains July 16, 2015 at 10:49 am #

    Panos Kammenos, Greece defense minister and head of the party “Independent Greeks” (Anel), after a meeting with returned from Brussels Tsipras told reporters that “there was a coup in the heart of Europe”

    Tsipras was grabbed by the throat and threatened with “total forfeiture of deposits of the population and the complete annihilation of the Greek banking system.”

    According to the Athens News Agency (APE), Kammenos, in particular, said: “The prime minister was forced to sign an agreement, the text of which has nothing to do with the plan that has been approved by the political leaders. The revolution continues in Greece. Some people fervently wishes to change the power illegally.”

  80. nsa July 16, 2015 at 11:55 am #

    We here in Ft. Meade and Langley have rekindled the Mackinder doctrine….we are now injecting our joohadi assets into the central asian republics. The result will be fatal to what is left of the pathetic defeated ussr…..splitting russia essentially in half and creating an open invitation for the chinese to expand into the sparsely populated east…..all to be accomplished while russia is busy with our wonderful goose stepping militias creating chaos on russia’s western border. And to help the process of social decay along, we are flooding afghan heroin into Moscow……ruling the planet and punishing our enemies is not difficult at all.

  81. FincaInTheMountains July 16, 2015 at 12:13 pm #

    “We here in Ft. Meade and Langley” have fucked up again – can’t draw Russia into a war in Donbass. As senator McCain confessed in a recent interview “You can’t trust these morons with anything” (meaning Ukrainian junta in Kiev).

    So now, reluctant to let go of “perfect” ignition of the war with Russia, trying to suck in Poland – a NATO member?

    • nsa July 16, 2015 at 12:50 pm #

      Punk McCain has been one of our assets for going on 30 years….we have videos of his many liaisons with underage girls. At least they were girls and not boys……

  82. Q. Shtik July 16, 2015 at 12:58 pm #

    …”Black people name their children for things that are expensive which they cannot afford…Mercedes…Ruby…Car insurance….” – Elysian quoting a black female comedian

    ==============

    Back in the day, almost 40 years ago now, when I went through the motions of being a Catholic even though deep down I had long since become a non-believer, my wife was pregnant with our first child and we were making arrangements for a baptism service in our local church.

    We (and 2 other pregnant couples) were required to meet with Father Vernon* in his rectory office to receive certain direction regarding the church’s thinking on various aspects of parenthood. A big topic, to my surprise, concerned the naming of children. The church strongly suggested it was proper to choose names from among not only “the saints” but current and ancestral relatives who were known to be good and worthy models. Doing so would establish or continue a family tree that members could take pride in and entrench Christian values and culture in the family.

    Discouraged in the naming of babies were frivolous names like sports stars, Hollywood types, names made up from a scramble of letters for no better reason than euphony or alliteration.**

    As is obvious, this is precisely the opposite of what we see in Malthuss’s list of what we may be certain are Black names.

    My guess is that slavery in America destroyed the connection of one Black generation to another and reverence for a long line of worthy names amongst ancestors. And so to this day each black baby arrives with a clean slate as though unconnected to the past. Names are made up from a handful of scrabble letters tossed out on a table and often will include the letter “q” and the ending “ious” whose popularity is beyond explanation. Similarly, why do blacks have an affinity for grape soda far beyond that of other ethnic groups? It’s a mystery. One thing is for certain…. made-up black names are intended to maintain cultural distance from “the man.”

    * Father Vernon despite his youth was staunch in his Catholic ways and he wrote and delivered some great sermons. Sadly, he died in a car crash on a Christmas Day some 3 decades ago.

    ** I love the story of the young and very pregnant black woman sitting on her front stoop and pondering what name to give her shortly due baby when a truck rolled by with the name Peerless Furniture on its side. And thus we got the football star Peerless Price.

  83. fodase July 16, 2015 at 1:20 pm #

    My favourite is my mother’s astonishment at finding the following brothers in her grade-school class (she was a sub) –

    Lemonjello and Limejello

    i kid you not

    bu’, uh….you kno’, iss all goo’.

    no it ain’t my brothers.

    fodase

  84. fodase July 16, 2015 at 1:21 pm #

    …forgot one. honourable mention goes to –

    Boomquida

  85. barbisbest July 16, 2015 at 4:27 pm #

    Party. party. party. yes, please bring up about climate change. Dippy and Kimmie K. may have to think about something other than Kimmie’s marketing strategy, or gasp, themselves, and maybe even have to think holistically. But, don’t say the word holistically in that group. That’s a big word.

    The homely guy with the fur on his head, otherwise known as the walking punchline, is a decoy to throw off Jeb Bush, as if he would ever be president. Nonetheless, this puts Scott Walker front and center and with Nicki Haley by his side, that brings in the stupid southern vote and makes history with a woman on the ticket. Sappy, Slicky Nicki with the recent Charleston episode, “I’m so proud of South Carolina taking down the confederate flag.” ( Not that that’s a bad thing.) With all the money behind them via the big bros,they’re practically a shoe in. There’s your dictator Scott Walker. Heaven help us.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 16, 2015 at 8:55 pm #

      Trump is talking about something neither party will touch – the mass invasion of tens of millions of illegal immigrants. For that he deserves our gratitude if not our vote. For you to dismiss him with a reference to his hair is the very essence of a cheap shot. You should be ashamed of yourself if you are still capable of feeling shame.

      No respect for the South as a region either. Even Harper Lee wasn’t that callous. More fail.

      • malthuss July 17, 2015 at 1:28 am #

        Coast to Coast radio, tonight. USA will have 400-500 million in 35 years. Woolridge interview.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 17, 2015 at 3:49 am #

          Don’t worry, help is on the way. A vast armada of Aryan “aliens” is on the way from Sirius. Meanwhile our forces beneath the ice in Antarctica are gearing up for the counter attack against the NWO. The struggle goes far beyond this world. The Grays are on the side of the enemy.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 17, 2015 at 12:13 am #

      Ken could never just admit he was wrong about Da Free John. So he just keep covering up his lies with more lies – digging himself deeper and deeper in.

      http://www.strippingthegurus.com/stgsamplechapters/da.html

      • Q. Shtik July 17, 2015 at 1:19 pm #

        about Da Free John. – Janos

        ===============

        There was this up-scale bar in the city. The Men’s Room had 3 crapper stalls and each was outfitted with a device that required 50 cents be inserted in order to use it. Two stalls were unoccupied but the third had a queue of several black guys waiting. I asked why they didn’t use the unoccupied stalls. They said the money device on the third stall was broken so it was “Da Free John.”

        I hope this^ is not so fatuous as to get me booted “once and for all.” It’s Friday, lighten up.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 17, 2015 at 3:02 pm #

          Is this true or just apocryphal? It should be true so let’s say it is. Isn’t that what truth is – a good story? Good as in funny or useful for us? As O’Brien told Winston, sometimes 2+2=4 – for scientific purposes when the Party needs that point of view. But if the Party needs it to equal 5, then that’s the Truth.

          Boy, all those old dead White Males really were pretty far off base, eh?

  86. malthuss July 16, 2015 at 4:51 pm #

    WoW. No Danny boy. Thanks for not showing up.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 16, 2015 at 9:01 pm #

      Hope he’s Ok. He really was useful to me as a foil to my blade and fire to my steel. Of course he was almost never really sincere – always seemed to be promoting some kind of agenda.

  87. Q. Shtik July 16, 2015 at 5:09 pm #

    Coincident with Malthuss’s posting of a long list of (to my white eyes) bizarre black names, the latest issue of New York magazine (not to be confused with The New Yorker magazine) arrived in our mailbox. On its cover was the black face of one Ta-Nehisi Coates. Apparently he is a known quantity in certain circles but I, personally, had never heard of him.

    A sub-leader below the picture says that Coates “has written a brutal 176-page meditation on the lie of racial progress. Every American should read it, though few will like what it has to say.”

    Coates and his editor, Christopher Jackson, managed to get the galleys for this slim book into the hands of Toni Morrison who weeks later had an assistant send Jackson an email with her reaction: “I’ve been wondering who might fill the intellectual void that plagued me after James Baldwin died (28 years earlier)…Clearly it is Ta-Nehisi Coates.”

    High praise indeed if only it had come (1) more promptly, (2) from Morrison herself and (3) addressed to Coates, not his editor. Maybe it’s just me and I don’t understand the politics of the book biz.

    Naturally, the first thing to catch my eye was the first name. If you want to know how to pronounce it you will need to do a Google search since it is anything but intuitive.

    I did some Googling around and found this 7 year old piece which dealt with Coates, black naming traditions, class-signifying names, etc.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2008/10/you-know-your-name-is-ghetto-if/5965/#disqus_thread

    I will speculate that if Coates’s first name was James he might be unheard of today and if Baldwin’s first name had been Ta-Neh-isi, writing in his earlier era we might never have heard of him either.

    What’s in a name? – Shakespere

    I would like to ask Coates if Ta-Nehisi was his given name at birth or did he feel compelled to change it for artistic promotional reasons……. like Eugene Orowitz from my high school who became Michael Landon.

    • ZrCrypDiK July 16, 2015 at 5:39 pm #

      I used to be immersed in the black culture, around ’83/4 or so. In fact, I lived in Bloomington, IL – which was fairly segregated at that time (most blacks lived in the SW portion of the B/N city/state. If you wanted weed, that’s where you went.

      Very little crime – in fact, there were robberies/murders that pretty much involved whites from Downs/Le Roy (talk about *REDNECK*).

      My point? There’s no point – we’ve pretty much driven ourselves into extinction. 30-40 years tops for the monoculture petro-soil (X gallons gasohol [2+] for every gallon by weight of crop). The immersion factor link follows:

      https://youtu.be/wfSRXyL1Vy8

      • Janos Skorenzy July 16, 2015 at 10:02 pm #

        Yes, inter-racial crime is a sign of power. The more rights Blacks get, the more bold they become against Whites. Imagine how they treated the defeated Southern Whites after the war. Or how they treat South African Whites today. These are images of the future of Whites in Black areas.

        • ZrCrypDiK July 17, 2015 at 1:04 am #

          I have to admit, attending the black “baptist” church was quite an eye-opener. Those folks party on Sunday – nothing like my Catholic upbringing…

          • Janos Skorenzy July 17, 2015 at 3:51 am #

            I read about one White psychic who went to a holy roller Black Church. At the height of it, she saw a huge Ape. That’s what they were really worshiping. The Ape is a symbol of Mercury just as Hanuman is a messenger of Ram.

    • elysianfield July 16, 2015 at 6:14 pm #

      To paraphrase Lenny Bruce…”He changed his name because “Eugene Orowitz” sounded “too Hollywood…”.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 17, 2015 at 12:21 am #

      I think you may be one the 36 unknown, righteous men who keep the world running. As long as you keep mowing your lawn, bagging leaves, reading the NY Times Sunday paper, doing the crossword puzzle, etc the world will continue on track. Once you stop for whatever reason, chaos and misfortune will ensue until a new lamed vavnik is appointed.

      Based on induction and intuition, I think you may be number 27. You are in charge of the tri-state area. I’m in charge out here. I’m not sure of course, but I think I’m one too – probably 31.

      http://www.lamed-vav.com/

      • malthuss July 17, 2015 at 1:41 am #

        How do you have the time to find all this stuff, let alone read it?

        Do you have a degree in History?

        • Janos Skorenzy July 17, 2015 at 2:39 pm #

          Read about how they came up with the number 36. They got 6 million the same way.

    • malthuss July 17, 2015 at 1:38 am #

      TN Coats [as I call him] has inflicted himself on NPR, the web [Salon?]
      and major publications like ‘The Atlantic’.

      He is -at best- a dim bulb who thinks the ‘black problem’ will be solved [or at least soothed] with reparations.

  88. wpa--ccc July 16, 2015 at 6:24 pm #

    – we’ve pretty much driven ourselves into extinction. 30-40 years tops for the monoculture petro-soil (X gallons gasohol [2+] for every gallon by weight of crop)

    ————–

    Overpopulation … For every grandchild born a negative impact. A carbon footprint 6X that of childless couples. Stop ZPG replacement births… We need NPG.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 16, 2015 at 10:06 pm #

      Thanks buddy. One more argument for a White America along with clean air, water, and “good schools”. Cops can go back to rescuing cats and teaching little kids how to ride bikes. It’s needed: new study shows 20% of Gen X never learned. Too busy with digital gadgets.

  89. Tangoo July 16, 2015 at 7:14 pm #

    “Myself, I’m going to shop”

    When it comes to Kunstler hypocrisy that is as classic as it gets.

  90. toktomi July 16, 2015 at 9:28 pm #

    Trolling for Quitters
    Please, pay me.
    Guy McPherson

    Be Happy!
    Go Die!
    Please, pay me.
    Carolyn Baker

    World Made By Power Hand Tools
    Please, pay me.
    James Howard Kunstler

    …just blogging on your blog, JHK, like the rest of the toothless miscreants

  91. sprawlcapital July 16, 2015 at 11:48 pm #

    This is not completely on topic, but it’s background on how we got in such a mess. Of course, even earlier background is the history of World War I. We have just had the 100th anniversary of some world-changing events in 1915: the first use of poison gas in modern warfare; the first bombardment of a city (London) from the air; and the first submarine sinking of a large passenger ship, the Lusitania, with hundreds of civilians killed.
    ===================

    Today, July 16, 2015, is the 70th anniversary of the first test of an atomic bomb, at the Trinity test site, near Alamagordo, New Mexico. The test showed that the Manhattan Project, the US government effort to develop a nuclear weapon, was a success.

    The Trinity test showed that the Military-Industrial Complex was a success, even when given a project on a scale never before imagined. It demonstrated the success of big government and big business.

    The Trinity test also showed that secrecy was a success. The public in the area where the bright flash and loud noise were seen and heard were given false information immediately after the test, and were not told the truth until after August 6, 1945, the day of the atomic bombing of Hiroshima. Of course, the entire Manhattan Project was top secret, from its first day, in 1942. We would not have wanted the Germans or the Japanese to know about our nuclear weapons work, but this secrecy continued for decades during the Cold War and beyond.

    Try to imagine how it all felt to a young veteran of the war, returning home. His government had controlled his life, since drafting him to serve in the military for the duration of the war. Now our government had shown that, operating in secret, it had gained control of forces greater than any in previous history. The message contained in the Trinity test and the atomic bombings of Japan a few weeks later: people in authority have far more knowledge than you have; do not protest as these people make the important decisions; do your job; don’t make waves.

    Only for a brief ten years, 1965 to 1975, did the children of that vet question authority, as they tried to stop the insane Viet Nam War. Now, since 9/11, we are back to apathy and fear of authority as bad as in the 1950s.

    The Trinity test was a success, but much of our freedom died on July 16, 1945.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 17, 2015 at 4:00 am #

      Not quite. The hippies dropped back in, became Academics and helped destroy America from the “Left”. In the end, it’s all the same. Once you’re in power, things evidently look very different. As the old Czeck saying goes, “Under Capitalism, man oppresses man. Under Communism it’s the other way around.”

      All this is facilitated since the same ethnic group that dominated the Left also dominates Capitalism. In fact a group of Trotskyites jumped over to the “right” and became the Neo Cons. Whatever. Trotsky and Rothschild used to meet for chess and lunch. Perfect concord and understanding. The “Christians” must be disempowered and disenfranchised. Only their ruin will allow the good people to attain their destiny. To this end, the firm of Kuhn & Loeb lent the Russian Communist Party millions in gold sterling.

      • Q. Shtik July 17, 2015 at 1:42 pm #

        I’ve heard of “sterling silver” and “pounds sterling” but never “gold sterling.”

        If there is a third grandchild in my stars I’m going to suggest the name “Sterling Qshtik.”

      • malthuss July 17, 2015 at 8:50 pm #

        SBPDL,

        “I guess the place must be heavily libtarded, being part of Massachusetts and all; I saw a poster on a bulletin board telling eveyone about an upcoming ‘talk’ or ‘ook’ being given by Ta Nehisi Coates. There was a picture of him on the thing, hideous soup-cooler mega lips and all. Why doesn’t he preach to his fellow negroes? Stop the violence, pull up your pants, pick up your trash, etc. Instead he gets pathologically altruistic and comfortably insulated whites to nod in agreement at his foolishness, kind of like that disingenuously misnomered Tim Wise. A wise-ass, more like it. I could ignore these fools if they were not lent such undeserved credence by ignorant and in-need-of-moral-superiority whites.

        Oh well, it’s a beautiful summer day in New England, with young children by the hundred being taught patience by sailing small dinghys in light wind this morning. It’s a white thing, may you understand.

        Here I will end by wishing all the black people who are as fed up as we are a nice day. I hope you will figure out how to reach your brethren and stop or at least slow the madness before whitey reaches his breaking point.
        History is replete with examples of why pushing YT that far is a very bad idea.”

  92. FincaInTheMountains July 17, 2015 at 1:31 am #

    Clintons hit with deposition notices in racketeering case

    Bill and Hillary Clinton have been ordered to give depositions in a racketeering case filed against them and the Clinton Foundation.

    Larry Klayman, president of Freedom Watch, sent deposition notices to the former first couple Friday in his lawsuit alleging civil RICO misconduct.

    Klayman suggested the former first couple and their foundation used their political clout to drum up foreign donations and, in return, lavished diplomatic favors for contributors while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/clintons-hit-with-deposition-notices-in-racketeering-case/article/2568034

  93. ZrCrypDiK July 17, 2015 at 3:27 am #

    Sanctuary cities? RLY?!? Let me tell you, “she shells sanctuary” (I know, not the best way to incite the trolls)

    https://youtu.be/8I8mWG6HlmU

  94. BackRowHeckler July 17, 2015 at 7:37 am #

    Cut up body parts being found in garbage bags around New Haven, father of 6 shot to death in his front yard in Hartford, ESPN if Bristol hand out ‘courage’ award to Bruce Jenner well known transvestite (look there’s Diane Sawyer in the front row, beatific, magnanimous look on her face, leading the Standing O) … Western Civilization based upon classic Greek and Roman culture, the Enlightenment, the Renaissance, the US Constitution, Jewish Scholarship, and grounded in the morality of the New Testament, is hard up against it, maybe in its twilight … New England calling … Help us, please! … is there a cell phone app to ameliorate the collapse of the western world?

    Don’t worry about the Marines murdered in Tennessee. Here’s what I heard on the news this morning:

    Shooter was ‘All American’

    He was a lone wolf

    No connection to international terror network

    Might have been angry because AF wouldn’t let him enlist.

    Nothing to see here, tune into the ESPY award show.

    How much longer these lying PC, pieces of sh-t in the NY media stay in business is your guess alone. Does anybody believe a goddam thing they say anymore? Why do they exist, except to kiss Obama’s ass, and undermine the country?

    Oh yea, contract week in the NFL, where the Commissioner alone makes $ 1 million per … anyway, $70 million contracts a dime a dozen, and $100+ not too rare, and this in some of most poverty stricken cities in NAmerica. JHK says not much money left, but there seems to be plenty for this stupid sh-t.

    brh

    • Janos Skorenzy July 17, 2015 at 2:43 pm #

      Andrea Mitchell asked his friend if he liked typical small town Southern activities like hunting and guns. Isn’t that why he did this – because he was a Southerner who like guns?

      • Q. Shtik July 17, 2015 at 3:02 pm #

        Andrea Mitchell asked [his] friend – Janos

        ===============

        You’re confusing me… Andrea is a woman, right?

        Are we talking about the journalist who likes to hound Hillary?

        • Janos Skorenzy July 17, 2015 at 3:06 pm #

          Yes, her. She asked the friend of the terrorist. I suppose what I said could be confusing if I had just posted it, but since I was responding to BRH, the context was provided.

  95. FincaInTheMountains July 17, 2015 at 10:20 am #

    Former Greek Finance Minister Janis Varufakis likened agreement with international lenders with a military coup of 1967

    Former Greek Finance Minister Janis Varufakis called agreement with the creditors “New Treaty of Versailles” and said he would not vote for it. In an interview with Australian radio New Statesman, he also said that the government was secretly preparing to print drachma if the country is forced to abandon the euro.

    According to him, the “Second Versailles” – is a crime against Europe. Commenting on the summit in Brussels, Varufakis said it was “the policy of humiliation”. “Troika was sure that it will make him (Tsipras) feel sorry for every word of criticism he uttered in the last five years. Not only for the six months that we are in government, but also for previous years”, – said Varufakis.

    Varufakis compared the agreement with the military coup of 1967, only then, he said, “They used tanks to throw democracy out, but this time they used banks”. “Foreign banks have used force to seize power,” – he said.

    He outlined a plan to counter the banks closure.

    According to him, it was necessary to print IOUs, or at least announce that Greece will issue its own liquidity in euro. It was necessary to cash Greek bonds of 2012, which were in the European Central Bank, and to take control over the Bank of Greece.

    “It was a triptych, three things that I thought we had to do, if the ECB would close our banks,” – said the ex-minister.

    Varufakis fears that the policy of austerity and poverty will lead to growth of ultra-right forces in Greece. “If our party, SYRIZA, which nurtured hopes of many in Greece, to bow to this new form of postmodern occupation, I do not see any other outcome than further strengthening of the “Golden Dawn”. They inherit the tragic path of the movement against austerity” – he said.

    http://ria.ru/economy/20150713/1126933178.html

  96. Q. Shtik July 17, 2015 at 2:50 pm #

    Re Mohammad Abdulaleez

    A quote appeared beside his photos in his high school yearbook: “My name causes national security alerts. What does yours do?”

    Now we know why.

    • malthuss July 17, 2015 at 8:45 pm #

      Those of us who KNOW, knew then. No one had to tell us.

      As the joos say ‘too late, smart’.

  97. FincaInTheMountains July 17, 2015 at 3:40 pm #

    Bill and Hillary Are Ordered to Give Depositions Under Oath

    Larry Klayman, founder of Freedom Watch, former president of Judicial Watch and former federal prosecutor has successfully convinced a judge that he has a legitimate case against the Clintons for illegal actions covered by the RICO Act. (Racketeering Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) The Washington Times have seen documents that say that Hillary is required to give her deposition on the morning of July 28th and Bill on the morning of July 29th. Klayman claims that the Clintons made money from donors who were breaking the law by selling goods to Iran despite the sanctions against those sales. Klayman further claims that Hillary covered up her crimes by erasing her emails and scrubbing the server.

    This creates an extremely dangerous situation for the Clintons.They have to give depositions under oath, facing the penalties for perjury. They have no idea what Klayman knows or can prove. We know from history that both are prone to lying under oath. Should they lie in the deposition and Klayman can prove it, it’s a disaster for Hillary 2016. This is not like lying to congress , a group totally devoid of cojones. Klayman will definitely press for formal charges. He may have several perjury traps set up for the Clintons and even if he doesn’t, he can ask Hillary anything he wants about her private email set up. She can’t make the claim that she turned over all of her work emails, because it’s been established she didn’t send at least 15 and that others were altered before being turned over.

    http://www.thepcgraveyard.com/2015/07/10/bill-and-hillary-are-ordered-to-give-depositions-under-oath/

  98. FincaInTheMountains July 17, 2015 at 4:02 pm #

    In the last week the global Party of War has received several heavy blows and not random, but a result of a carefully planned operation by global Party of Peace. Well, let’s say that the incident in Mukachevo is pure coincidence, but it exposed moral and political qualities of the Right Sector led by Jarosch.

    Such fundamental defeat of the Party of War on one continent necessarily leads to its defeat on the other, and what may be a more visible expression of the defeat of the global Party of War but successful completion of negotiations with Iran?

    But that’s not all, and if conspiracy theories, that the war party is ready to respond to arrest of Hillary Clinton’s by transformation of “Jade Helm” into military action against the State of Texas, are confirmed, armed insurrection will be added to already existing charges.

    Moreover, this plan is doomed to failure, as Texas has successfully conducted mobilization of the State Guards, and thanks to Chuck Norris all of America knows that Texas does not want to secede from US, but does not want the repetition of the tragedy in Waco by a factor of a 100.

  99. wpa--ccc July 17, 2015 at 7:20 pm #

    “Should they lie in the deposition and Klayman can prove it, it’s a disaster for Hillary 2016.” — Finca

    Clinton too much with Wall Street. Getting Clinton out of the race will make it easier for the mainstream, centrist, populist candidate: Bernie Sanders… who is not taking any corporate money and owes no favors to Wall Street.

  100. Q. Shtik July 17, 2015 at 10:48 pm #

    Everybody who follows pro football knows and understands that Bill Belichick and the Patriots will commit any and every infraction of the rules they can get away with to win and deep down those football fans don’t get all that exercised over it although they may pretend to. It’s expected and they kind of respect him for it.

    It’s the same with the Iran nuke agreement. Everyone on both sides knows damn well that Iran will continue to pursue the bomb. The only question is how many and what rules can they break without getting caught. And even if they do get caught what’re we gonna do, invade? Of course not. No, were going to tell them if they persist we’re gonna be really really CROSS. Obama and Kerry are the Chamberlains of our time.

    • BackRowHeckler July 18, 2015 at 7:35 am #

      Q, we can wipe our asses with this agreement, for what its worth. The Mullahs in Tehran are having a good laugh over it, not believing what suckers and pushovers these stupid American pissants are.

      In 1939 British PM Neville Chamberlain got off his plane in London waving a worthless piece of paper ‘the Munich Agreement’ happily proclaiming ‘peace in our time’. There is actually newsreel film of Hitler and Goring at the same time cracking jokes about the agreement at Munich city hall, an agreement they had no intention of honoring. This reminds me of the nuclear treaty Bill Clinton drew up with NKorea in 1994. A few years later NKorea was detonating Abombs and threatening to use them on us.

      brh

      • Q. Shtik July 18, 2015 at 12:07 pm #

        The Mullahs in Tehran are having a good laugh over it, not believing what suckers and pushovers these stupid American pissants are. – BRH

        ============

        Correct, they are playing 3-dimensional chess while Kerry is playing Old Maid.

        • malthuss July 18, 2015 at 4:49 pm #

          And the Imams in the USA dont laugh at USA suicide?

  101. wpa--ccc July 17, 2015 at 11:04 pm #

    Should math be taught in schools?

    Miss America contestants opine (2 minute YouTube video):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QBv2CFTSWU

    /parody off

    • Q. Shtik July 18, 2015 at 12:24 pm #

      I watched exactly half of this YouTube and couldn’t take it anymore. I fear for our country and our culture. Talk about air-heads………. I’m glad I will probably be dead in 10 years or less.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2015 at 2:58 pm #

        You could live for decades or even centuries if you just reversed the flow. Have you been doing your head stands? Remember, the body is an engine. Oxidation is the enemy of all engines. Therefore? Breathe less! No more jogging or sex. More meditation.

        As a Lamed Vavnik, you should know all this.

  102. wpa--ccc July 17, 2015 at 11:24 pm #

    “Everyone on both sides knows damn well that Iran will continue to pursue the bomb.” –Qshtik

    Since Iran is not an NFL football team, do you have any actual evidence to support your opinion?

    “Obama and Kerry are the Chamberlains of our time.” –Qshtik

    Again, unsupported opinion. Iran is also not Nazi Germany.

    “Even if they were pursuing a nuclear weapon (which nobody can prove they are) and even if Iran had long range missiles to strike at America (which they definitely do not) Iran is not going to carry out an unprovoked attack on the United States with a nuclear weapon because any attack with a weapon of mass destruction would be national suicide.

    Simply having a nuclear weapon does not mean the nation that owns it will use it. Many nations possess nuclear weapons. And contrary to all the dire warnings about nuclear weapons held by other countries, the historical truth is that one and only one nation has ever actually used nuclear weapons against the citizens of another country, and that nation is the United States of America. For all the talk about the threat from Iran, it is the United States of America which remains the only ation to have actually used a nuclear weapon against the citizens of another country. It is the United States of America which is the proven nuclear threat to the world.”

    WHY IT DOESN’T MATTER IF IRAN HAS A NUCLEAR BOMB
    http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/trinitite.html

    • nsa July 17, 2015 at 11:55 pm #

      You commie rat…are you accusing the USA of using a first strike capability on a civilian population and their pets and their goldfish? Next you will be accusing us of using our freedom weapons twice on defenseless civilians. Have you no shame????

    • Q. Shtik July 18, 2015 at 12:12 pm #

      do you have any actual evidence to support your opinion? – wpa

      ============

      No, just common sense that obviously is superior to yours.

  103. wpa--ccc July 18, 2015 at 1:49 am #

    “Those of us who KNOW, knew then. No one had to tell us.” –Malthuss

    Malthuss, did you “know” that Islamic terrorism doesn’t even count for 1 percent of the 180,000 gun murders in the US since 9/11?

    Young white males (probably from Christian families) are the majority of shooters. The overwhelming majority of mass shootings were by non-Muslims. This is true in Europe, as well as in the U.S.

    And it makes sense because Islam is a religion of peace.

  104. FincaInTheMountains July 18, 2015 at 5:52 am #

    Europeans are defending themselves from the “Right Sector”

    After the shootout in Mukachevo between the militants of the “Right Sector” with Ukrainian police, Ukraine’s neighbors are taking steps to strengthen their own security.

    Polish media reported with alarm that the fighting took place just 40 miles away to the nearest Polish village Ustrzyki Gorne, and are wondering if the Polish authorities are taking measures to prevent the entry to Poland of fugitive militants.

    Slovakia has strengthened its borders, for fear of penetration on the Slovak territory by armed militants.

    Czech President Milos Zeman said that in connection with the situation in Ukraine should be expected out flow of refugees, and the hour is short, when the Czech army would have to defend the state borders from the uncontrolled flow of migrants.

    Head of the Office of the Prime Minister of Hungary Janos Lazar noted radical deterioration of the security situation in Eastern Europe. He acknowledged the Hungarian intelligence operations in Transcarpathia aimed at protecting ethnic Hungarians, against the wishes of the official Kiev.

    Ukraine is rapidly becoming the “Kosovo of Eastern Europe”, and the Ukrainians becoming a headache for Europe second only to Albanians. Europe gets a mixture of Ukrainian nationalism and Kosovo Islamism on its Eastern borders.

    For the first time in a long time the Western press began to openly call the Ukrainian nationalist formations “fascists”.

    http://www.fondsk.ru/news/2015/07/17/evropejcy-zaschischajutsja-ot-pravogo-sektora-34397.html

    • ozone July 18, 2015 at 9:17 am #

      Wondrous!
      Please join us in the Assistant Secretary’s office at 22:00 hours for champagne and scrumptious hors d’oeuvres as “Vicious Vicky” Nuland celebrates, “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED”!

      Come for the celebration; stay for the sacrifice of infants, commencing promptly at 0:00 hours! Hoping to see all the members of the Inner Circle there!

      **Robes will be ‘casual’. Please bring your ceremonial knives…. and forks.

      **RSVP to Vicky’s office during hours of darkness as she is somewhat daylight-sensitive.

  105. FincaInTheMountains July 18, 2015 at 7:10 am #

    IMF suffers from acute form of split personality disorder, just like American establishment does

    Relations in the Triangle Lenders – Kiev – the IMF gradually moved from the sphere of the economy into the area of Franz Kafka novels.

    The frequency with which IMF changes its position must be measured in kilohertz and even completely surreal negotiations on Greek debt look on this background as a model of sane consistency.

    It would seem that after the statement by the IMF that Ukraine will receive money even in the event of default, everything had to be completed quickly: Kiev proudly shows middle finger to creditors and enjoys money from the IMF. But something went wrong.

    First, the IMF has actually admitted that Ukraine’s debt on Russian Eurobonds is a State debt, not commercial, thus completely breaking all possible patterns of Kiev defense since this recognition was extremely disadvantageous to the Fund and to Kiev.

    The situation is easily explained, if you assume a hypothesis that within the IMF continues positional battles between those who are “for” and “against” financing of Kiev at all costs.

    Secondly, Ukraine expected tranche in July, but instead received the adjournment of IMF meeting on Ukraine to July 31. Moreover, the IMF has for some reason (why?) continues to insist on the continuation of negotiations with creditors, though seemingly meaningless in this situation.

    One gets the impression that IMF has acute form of split personality disorder that reflects split personality disorder of the American establishment. There is hardly an issue that Lagarde has not changed her opinion on at least twice in recent months.

    It is interesting that on June 24, Goldman Sachs published its baseline scenario for the development of the Ukrainian crisis. This baseline scenario assumes a default on July 24 through the non-payment of the coupon payment to commercial creditors. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-06-25/goldman-sees-ukraine-in-solvency-crisis-likely-default-in-july-ibbnk177

    Well, Goldman knows better.

    http://crimsonalter.livejournal.com/67970.html

  106. Q. Shtik July 18, 2015 at 11:57 am #

    Janos,

    Time’s running out on this week’s comment count. I tossed out some bait earlier this week but you spurned it (not wanting to be lead by the likes of Q.). Well, here’s the last chance and the subject matter is right up your alley. We await your thoughts.

    http://davidstockmanscontracorner.com/trumpism-right-fascism-21st-century-edition/?utm_source=wysija&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Mailing+List+Saturday+9+AM

    • Zoltar July 18, 2015 at 1:29 pm #

      To everyone one except Janos

      I have tried this week – perhaps fatuously – to take a stand against the person who calls himself Janos, who has been more responsible than any other individual for turning this forum into a sort of ideological Love Canal.

      If you are tired of Janos’ hijacking of this forum and are at all curious to see this nearly week-long exchange between us, you can find it near the beginning of this series of responses, beginning at July 13th, 9:48 am.

      Please note that Janos is incapable of understanding that his opinions are irrelevant to me. I would oppose his scurrilous methods just as much if every one of his views aligned with mine.

      I have purposely remained a tabula rasa to Janos, not giving him any way to place me on a political spectrum or providing him with any opinion on matters of race. But Janos holds a Manichean world view; he cannot conceive of me – of most of us – as anything other than The Enemy. He requires our opposition to define himself.

      If you bother to look at our exchanges, note that, for want of clues, he has felt compelled to invent me as “a communist” (whether I know it or not) who “thinks” this and “believes” that regarding the subject which has become his consuming obsession: race.

      The only way to reclaim this forum from the thrall of Janos is to ignore him. Don’t invite him to post. Don’t respond to him when he does. If you do, then you have become part of his pathology and he will have won.

      Zoltar (Howard Skillington)

      • dannyboy July 18, 2015 at 1:35 pm #

        k

        • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2015 at 2:08 pm #

          Oh you’re such a big boy! You know your aleph beth!

          • elysianfield July 18, 2015 at 5:49 pm #

            “You know your aleph beth!”

            Clever.

            I cannot understand the rancorous pleadings for Janos’s scalp. What I enjoy about this site is the polemics, classical and cultural references, and topical subjects dear to us all. Without dissenting voices, this site would hold little interest.
            I suspect that those wanting to silence those voices, or any voices that they disagree with, are unused to honest intellectual debate…Race? Religion? Politics? Israel? Too many “3rd rails” in those topics, and besides, the truth is written, and cannot be discussed…let alone debated.

          • dannyboy July 18, 2015 at 6:51 pm #

            I explained it to you two weeks in a row, so I assume you don’t want to understand.

            Here is a repost from this week:

            “http://www.dailystormer.com/wacky-black-bastard-holds-up-little-girls-lemonade-stand/ – after they had given him a free lemonade. Well, I guess they should count their blessing they weren’t beaten or killed.

            They are horrible, are they not? I mean that’s the baseline, whatever else you can say about them.”

            can you use any human logic to explain how this is relevant to Kunstler’s essay?

            ugly hijacking. get it now?

          • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2015 at 8:00 pm #

            Wait – it’s ugly that I posted it or ugly that it actually happened?

            What utterly twisted values you have.

      • Q. Shtik July 18, 2015 at 1:56 pm #

        The only way to reclaim this forum from the thrall of Janos is to ignore him. Don’t invite him to post. Don’t respond to him when he does. If you do, then you have become part of his pathology and he will have won. – Zoltar

        ============

        ^This^ is funny. You have posted 7 times this week and all 7 are conversations with or diatribes against Janos…….. and you would presume to tell the rest of us not to respond to Janos. How could you NOT see the irony in this.

        • Zoltar July 18, 2015 at 3:43 pm #

          Because you are his chief enabler. If you don’t stop, neither will Janos.

          Either this is a forum about the topics that Jim Kunstler presents for our consideration, or it’s your playground.

          But I’ll make you a deal, Shtik. You are now in charge. If you can document Janos’ contention that I am a communist, I will never return to this forum and the two of you can live happily ever after.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2015 at 4:02 pm #

            Does having planets do injury or insult to the Sun? I revolve around Mr Kunstler and pay him honor thereby. Remember what Bilbo said, a road, even a road of thought, is a very dangerous thing. One never knows where one will end up. We start with Mr Kunstler’s topic on Monday and by Sunday we may be in Timbuctoo. It’s glorious and a free society must allow for the free travel of ideas. It doesn’t exist in the real world anymore. And if some people get their way, it wont exist online much longer either. Indeed most sites don’t allow it even now. It’s too much for most people after all. Most people, including you, have authoritarian personalities and can’t stand people saying things that haven’t been approved by the mob and those who control the mob.

            Right now I’m just a big ball of gas like Jupiter. But who knows? Maybe someday I’ll catch fire and become my own Sun. Until then I must revolve around another. I choose Mr Kunstler and he allows it – with an occasional reprimand.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2015 at 2:06 pm #

      I’m sorry I missed it Q. I have no problem responding to you, indeed far more often you ignore me, perhaps not undeservedly at times since I post some strange things at times. Also you must remember I have a life beyond this site. I perform a similar role on other forums and I also have to eat, sleep, etc. I will render judgment below after I have read it and donned my wrinkled black robe.

      Please ignore the “person” known as Zoltar. As you know, calling someone an insect is an extreme form of depersonalization, a precursor to genocide. He has now called me an insect a number of times, as well as refusing to engage in any semblance of a dialogue. He has completed his journey from Liberalism to full fledged Communism in other words.

  107. Buck Stud July 18, 2015 at 2:08 pm #

    By far, the most asinine poster on this site is FincK. His incessant posts are incredibly ridiculous at times and he pretends to be an authority on the nuances of American politics when in reality he is nothing of the sort. For example the source Finc cites his post upstream on the ‘Clinton subpoenas’ :

    “As reported by The Washington Post, in 2014, Klayman premised a lawsuit on the concept that “The Ebola virus is secretly a biological weapon allowed into the country by the Obama administration to further terrorist interests against Americans of the ‘Caucasian race and Jewish-Christian religion.'”

    • malthuss July 18, 2015 at 4:47 pm #

      Thanks. Since Mister FTM posts are sooooooo long, I usually skip them.
      Danny Boy is my least fav.

  108. Q. Shtik July 18, 2015 at 2:17 pm #

    wpa,

    I request your assistance. You have a certain genius for finding stuff in cyberspace on just about any subject and doing it with amazing quickness……. almost as if you had access to IBM’s Watson.

    I would like to know if the writer Ta-Nehisi Coates was given that first name by his parents at or about the time of his birth. i.e. does that name appear on his birth certificate? If not, what was his original name and when and why did he change it? And further, does it have some particular meaning when translated from some other language? (like an Indian friend told me her name meant “Shining Star” in Gujarati.)

    • malthuss July 18, 2015 at 8:51 pm #

      “I guess the place must be heavily libtarded, being part of Massachusetts and all; I saw a poster on a bulletin board telling eveyone about an upcoming ‘talk’ or ‘ook’ being given by Ta Nehisi Coates.
      There was a picture of him on the thing, hideous soup-cooler mega lips and all. Why doesn’t he preach to his fellow negroes?

      Stop the violence, pull up your pants, pick up your trash, etc.

      Instead he gets pathologically altruistic and comfortably insulated whites to nod in agreement at his foolishness, kind of like that disingenuously misnomered Tim Wise. A wise-ass, more like it. I could ignore these fools if they were not lent such undeserved credence by ignorant and in-need-of-moral-superiority whites.

      Oh well, it’s a beautiful summer day in New England, with young children by the hundred being taught patience by sailing small dinghys in light wind this morning. It’s a white thing, may you understand.
      Here I will end by wishing all the black people who are as fed up as we are a nice day. I hope you will figure out how to reach your brethren and stop or at least slow the madness before whitey reaches his breaking point. History is replete with examples of why pushing YT that far is a very bad idea.”
      [author unknown]

  109. Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2015 at 2:34 pm #

    Q: This editorial is a very evil piece of work. Of course a President or would be President should stand up for American and against invaders – and also stand up for America as an economic unit since one can’t separate economic power from political power. The writer can’t stand this return to old fashioned nationalism since he thinks the Corporations should replace the Nation State, which each Corporation negotiating its own deals with foreign powers and Corporations.

    The question then becomes, “Is he right about Trump being a Populist and Fascist”? Maybe, maybe not. We just don’t know yet. He’s certainly not a Fascist since he’s completely in bed with the Jews and Israel and has said so. Is he then a Populist? In his rhetoric heretofore, absolutely. He telling White America what they’ve been literally dying to here for more than a generation now. But is it all just a ruse to get into power? Once elected, will he renege on his promise to stop the illegals, and focus on starting another war or wars in the Middle East with both Syria and Iran, maybe even at the same time? Israel would love that.

    Don’t get me wrong: the disgust most Jews feel for Trump is heart felt. They can’t stand seeing Whites have a real leader. But a deeper game may be being played here. The Billionaire Class and the Neo Cons might know a whole different Trump than the one being presented to us. Consider this: if they really hated him, would he be getting this much media attention? Ignoring or as one Rabbi put it “dynamic silence” is a most profound weapon and always the first line of defense. It’s not being used against Trump by the Billionaire Class even though they are making a big show of disgust with him at the commercial level. For many of course, it’s sincere. But the executives of Macys? I wonder very much.

  110. fodase July 18, 2015 at 3:21 pm #

    …..so much for an ‘energy’ blog.

    lamed vavnik….i translate from 4 languages into english during my daily incarnation as a professional worker bee

    ….and took a serious liking to hebrew about 10 years ago, in addition to having learned very respectable smatterings of russian and french.

    ….too many languages, though.

    i’ll respond to my brazilian wife in half-icelandic half-portuguese sentences at times, when she interrupts me from my work on a legal document translation.

    can’t keep the bloody lingos on the straight & narrow. your mind becomes a cacaphony of tongues battling for supremacy.

    some palestinian bloke allegedly holds the global record at 50+ languages spoken…..an unadulterated lie, i say from experience, even the fringes of the bell curve won’t go past 10+.

    boils down to simple fact there’s not enough time to keep them honed, trust me on that with my paltry 4.

    even your native glosso begins to wither a bit when you’re out of
    that orbit….

    fodase

    • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2015 at 3:47 pm #

      Yeah that’s makes sense. I had wondered about that. They say that kids can keep two languages straight and benefit from growing up bilingual. Is that just open borders propaganda? It might be true though since the language faculty is at its peak when very young and each language could throw light on the other in terms of cognitive development.

        • dannyboy July 18, 2015 at 6:54 pm #

          Another completely irrelevant Comment to Kunstler’s essay. Try reading the post before commenting.

          • elysianfield July 18, 2015 at 11:52 pm #

            Dannyboy,
            Is this example of the tenuous hold on our thin veneer of civilization, the corruption and degradation of our society not a reason why intelligent men might seek a simpler life away from the cities? Where does Mr. Kunstler live? This mundane crime referenced is at the core of his premise…a simpler life of work and dignity, without having to tread effluent in a cesspool, or even an upscale cesspool in one of the better neighborhoods of Manhattan….

  111. FincaInTheMountains July 18, 2015 at 5:19 pm #

    “As reported by The Washington Post, in 2014, Klayman premised a lawsuit on the concept that “The Ebola virus is secretly a biological weapon allowed into the country by the Obama administration to further terrorist interests against Americans of the ‘Caucasian race and Jewish-Christian religion.’” — Buck Stud

    Despite the fact that Buck did not considered supplying the reference to his quote, I made a search and discovered that this exact phrase came from one “mediamatters.org” :

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/03/25/discredited-conspiracy-theorist-larry-klayman-i/203042

    A very simple search on the internet reveals that one of the main sponsor of “Media Matters” is one well know “MoveOn.org” which started in 1998 as advocacy group for then President Clinton under impeachment proceedings. They started by passing around a petition asking Congress to “censure President Clinton and move on”, despite his lying under oath.

    It puzzles me how could a paid Clinton’s shill attack Klayman? What a travesty!

  112. FincaInTheMountains July 18, 2015 at 5:24 pm #

    Anyway, Buck, would you be willing to go for a little wager – say a 1000 bucks – for the deposition dates of Clintons?

  113. wpa--ccc July 18, 2015 at 5:36 pm #

    Q., Ta-Nehisi (pronounced Tah-Nuh-Hah-See) is an Egyptian name for ancient Nubia. Ta-Nehisi is his given name on the birth certificate, unlike “Jeb” (who was born as John Ellis Bush).

  114. Q. Shtik July 18, 2015 at 5:40 pm #

    In 1939 British PM Neville Chamberlain got off his plane in London waving a worthless piece of paper ‘the Munich Agreement’ happily proclaiming ‘peace in our time’. – BRH

    ================

    With our perfect hindsight it is easy to see that world history would have evolved down a completely different path had Chamberlain and the French not caved so cravenly at Munich.

    BTW, it was 1938.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2015 at 1:11 am #

      Imagine if we had joined Hitler and attack the Soviet Union from the Pacific. What joy there could have been when the two armies met in Moscow. Instead there was the joy of jackals when the Russians and Americans met in a ruined Berlin and celebrated in the graveyard of Western Civilization.

      Admit the obvious: everything has been downhill since the defeat of the small man with the weird moustache.

      • Q. Shtik July 19, 2015 at 10:32 am #

        Admit the obvious: everything has been downhill since the defeat of the small man with the weird moustache. – Janos

        ===========

        I admit no such thing. Secondly, as I have demonstrated previously, Hitler was of average height and, third, his moustache was not uncommon in his era.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2015 at 4:38 pm #

          Churchill himself knew the Jews were behind Communism – yet he supported them anyway in WW2. Why? Because he was in debt for one thing. Also he admired them perhaps, and hoped that Zionism would channel their best energies away from Communism. Somewhat superficial since the Zionists were willing to betray Germany in WW1 – so why wouldn’t they betray Britain later? And of course they did, practicing terrorism against British soldiers and officials in Palestine. He also admitted that Palestine was far too small for all the Jews that wanted to go there – an ominous admission of the truth. There was never any chance for peace between the Arabs and the Jews once the Jewish invasion started – and that’s even if they had accepted the borders drawn up for them, which they clearly did not.

          Here’s his famous article on the subject.

          https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism

  115. fodase July 18, 2015 at 5:49 pm #

    apparently chas berlitz grew up in a household filled with extended family from different countries –

    “As a child, Charles was raised in a household in which (by his father’s orders) every relative and servant spoke to Charles in a different language: he reached adolescence speaking eight languages fluently.”

    i dont for a second believe he spoke 8 languages ‘fluently’, since that requires schooling, culture, and full immersion in the language in question – that cant be split 8 ways.

    i unfondly recall a fleeting conversation at a bar in florida in 1982-3 in which a drunk semi-babe told me she spoke five languages, and proceeded to count to 10 in all of them

    life can be banal.

    Greece owes €315 billion or so. That’s only €630 euros for each citizen of the EU.

    Germany is owed €56 billion. Their population is 80 million. That’s only €630 per citizen.

    Why don’t the citizens pay Greece’s debt to their German lenders in return for some benefit? Only €630 per German…

    It’s not that much.

    fodase

  116. FincaInTheMountains July 18, 2015 at 5:50 pm #

    “Thanks. Since Mister FTM posts are sooooooo long, I usually skip them.” == malthuss

    My sincere apologies, Malt. I asked Kremlin to start issuing the cartoonish versions of world events specially for American audience, but you know, our host does not like images or videos on his blog, so that might be a little problematic… But I am sure they will come up with something for our ADD-challenged American friends and partners.

  117. fodase July 18, 2015 at 6:16 pm #

    ta-nehisi — oh yes, the black refrain “we are the ancient egyptians look at everything we accomplished”

    preaching to the choir, he is, fat lot of good that will do

    right up there with the arabs inventing algebra

    what have you done for me lately?

    Driverless cars continue to perform stellarly in California-

    the first driverless car accident that involved injuries occurred on july 1 when one was rear-ended at 17 mph by another driver.

    there have been a goodly number of accidents involving these cars:

    “Google has also said that its cars have not caused any of the collisions while driving themselves. ”

    this demonstrates that driverless cars will spell a drastic reduction in accidents.

    fodase

  118. BackRowHeckler July 18, 2015 at 8:22 pm #

    Jeesh, what a coincidence. I was about half way thru Nicholas Wachsman’s ‘Kl, a history of the Nazi concentration camps’, when the news about Planned Parenthood ‘harvesting’ body parts of babies and selling them on the open market. (ponder that for a moment … and all this time I thought Big Libs were against profit) Wachsman goes on at length and in depth about the T4 Program, a shot of phenol to the heart, do any of you have a loved one not perfect mentally or physically? a team of well connected eminent doctors travelling across Germany choosing victims but not even these killers tried to sell the body parts, altho, later on, Nazi doctors used camp prisoners for experimentation, like the PP MD talked about in the video. Dr Mengele would fit right in at Planned Parenthood.

    Gentlemen, these are the same type of peolple who want to take away your firearms.

    Western Civilization is dead and needs an autopsy. Can any of you perform an autopsy?

    brh

    • malthuss July 18, 2015 at 8:55 pm #

      Wachsman goes on at length and in depth about the T4 Program, a shot of phenol to the heart, [of a 26 week pre born baby?]

      who is Wachmans?
      T4?

      • BackRowHeckler July 18, 2015 at 9:40 pm #

        Malth

        Yeah this book got a good review in WSJ about a month ago, went out and bought a copy.

        T4 was a Nazi program in the mid 30s to that murdered handicapped people, mentally ill, the old, the sick … get the picture? It was run by doctors, like Planned Parenthood.

        It was a precursor of worse things to come, but it was a start. It never really ended, but went underground when they began eliminating relatives of prominent army officers, and the officers objected.

        brh

  119. malthuss July 18, 2015 at 8:54 pm #

    The only way to reclaim this forum from the thrall of Janos is to ignore him. Don’t invite him to post. Don’t respond to him when he does. If you do, then you have become part of his pathology and he will have won. —– Zoltar (Howard Skillington)

    Sounds a bit like wearing a ‘Dont Kick Me’ sign.
    You are drawing attention to the infamous ‘Janos’.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2015 at 1:06 am #

      Evidently to the Skillingtons of the world I am mad, bad, and dangerous to know. Am I crazy? Sure – crazy like a fox! And only when the wind is from the North Northwest.

      • Zoltar July 19, 2015 at 8:20 am #

        You always flatter yourself, Janos. You are not significant enough to be dangerous – or to be hated.

        You are simply an annoyance and a distraction.

  120. fodase July 18, 2015 at 9:06 pm #

    Greece owes Spain 25bn – Each Spainyard (47 million of them) can pay €530 to the Spainish banks. It’s not that much. The Spainish gov’t can then cut whoever pays some slack somehow, maybe a plaque or a T-shirt “I paid off Greece’s debt”

    This can be done with each country that’s owed money, viz. its own cityzens repay the debt.

    Greece could then offer some free shit in return in their country, it’s got great beaches, food, wine, dance, people are wonderful.

    Greece can’t pay jack, it ain’t gonna ante up anything besides sham ‘repayments’ that are just new loans (lol what logic).

    Personally I love the place, I’d buy it if I had a few billion to slosh around, contrary to what I’ve heard the women are nice eyecandy too, I betcha the Germans would really go for that.

    fanny line out on zerohedge – the krauts outghta be able to figure it out, you know, come up with a final solution.

  121. nsa July 18, 2015 at 9:10 pm #

    We here in Ft. Meade and Langley consider abortion to be the antidote to devolution….the most expeditious way of getting rid of the botched, the unwanted, the defective, the indigent, the criminal, the parasitical, the permanently mendicant. Like it or not, eugenics is the future.

  122. Buck Stud July 19, 2015 at 12:44 am #

    “Anyway, Buck, would you be willing to go for a little wager – say a 1000 bucks – for the deposition dates of Clintons?”–Finc

    Anyway Finc, with a simple online search you would have discovered that the deposition dates are hardly set in stone:

    “No judge has ordered the Clintons to do anything. This article is just parroting a press release from Klayman. Klayman “ordered” them to appear for depositions — not the court.

    The Notices of Deposition are not valid because Klayman failed to follow Rule 45(c) of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. Also, nothing in the article suggests that (1) the Notices were actually served, and that (2) they were accompanied by subpoenas issued by the D.C. federal district court. Klayman has no way to enforce these because he failed to follow the rules.”

    I don’t take candy from babies Finc so hold on to that 1000 bucks. And by all means, please read a little deeper during one of your ‘simple online searches’.

    • FincaInTheMountains July 19, 2015 at 4:37 am #

      I’d agree with you on one thing: these two (Hillary and Bill) are extremely slippery. So lets wish good luck to Mr.Klayman.

  123. Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2015 at 1:22 am #

    http://www.dailystormer.com/hookers-turn-down-black-men/

    And who knows men better than the Ladies of the Evening? They want to get paid for their labor – or at least make it through their shift alive.

    The Howies and Dannys of the world will no doubt wonder what the safety of prostitutes has to do with the well being of our civilization. Gentlemen I rest my case.

  124. Q. Shtik July 19, 2015 at 11:08 am #

    Ta-Nehisi (pronounced Tah-Nuh-Hah-See) is an Egyptian name for ancient Nubia. – wpa

    ==============

    I assume the first and third syllables are accented?

    I spent an hour or two researching ancient Nubia and never ran across the word Ta-Nehisi. Can you give me your source for its connection to Nubia?

    I DID learn something of interest to me (a possible spur to my next building project)… that the Nubians built twice as many pyramids as the Egyptians, although they are miniscule in size by comparison. They made those tall (relative to their base) skinny pyramids. I’ve, so far, been unable to find precise dimensions but I think their largest one is/was 40 – 50 meters tall.

    Anyway, assuming what you have told me is accurate, it was Ta’s parents, not Ta himself who gave him the gimmicky name. If Ta himself had changed his name from, let’s say, John Coates to Ta-Nehisi Coates it would have been a big negative in my book since I have a loathing for all things gimmicky that are designed to draw attention to oneself despite any other worthiness or unworthiness for attention. Exhibit A: Dennis Rodman’ hair. Exhibit B: Lena Dunham’s tattoos.

  125. Q. Shtik July 19, 2015 at 11:16 am #

    You always flatter yourself, Janos. You are not significant enough to be dangerous – or to be hated.

    You are simply an annoyance and a distraction. – Zoltar

    ================

    OK, if I have not lost track of the count, that makes your 8th comment this week…… all concerned with Janos and NONE concerned with our host’s topic of Greek Pudding.

    Zoltar, before this week’s thread ends how about giving us your opinion about the Greek/Euro debt situation.

    • Zoltar July 19, 2015 at 3:10 pm #

      As I said, Shtik- you are Janos’ catamite.

      • Q. Shtik July 19, 2015 at 3:50 pm #

        Off-topic comment #9 (about Janos, not Greek situation). Grow up Zoltar.

        If Janos hijacked the blog in pursuit of an ideology you believed in you would have no problem.

        Why do you make no beef about Finca hijacking the blog to push his agenda: a love of Russia and Putin? Rhetorical question… no need to answer.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2015 at 4:52 pm #

      Does Greek Pudding actually exist? I’ve heard of Vichy Pudding or Yorkshire, but not Greek.

      After you finish with the Shire and his Muggledom, you owe to the Truth to read Pat Buchanan’s book “The Good War” for a more accurate take. Hitler was no threat to Great Britain or the United States. Indeed he kept a picture of Henry Ford in his office and had said of him, “Meanwhile in America, a great man works.” And Stalin had said of Ford, Communism will never triumph in America as longa as Henry Ford lives.

  126. FincaInTheMountains July 19, 2015 at 12:03 pm #

    We do not see any reasonable attempt to prevent the world’s debt and financial crisis at the global level. No ideas are offered by IMF or the Bank for International Settlements or the United Nations. In this situation, the only way out is to try to start serious negotiations to take preventive measures at regional levels.

    One of these regional areas has become a group of BRICS and the SCO. They need to have time to set up mechanisms of mutual payments and settlements without using the US dollar until the Ground Zero (final takedown of dollar debt pyramid) will take place. In addition to measures at the regional level individual countries must prepare their national action plans (programs) of protection in the event of a second wave of financial crisis. Events around Greece once again remind us of the urgency of such measures.

  127. wpa--ccc July 19, 2015 at 2:58 pm #

    Trump is right about John McCain not being a war hero. McCain never should have been allowed to become a pilot. McCain lost three Navy jets (and never paid the taxpayers who bought them), then he got captured and sang like a canary to the enemy. He also lied about his crashes, lies which were revealed by the release of official documents.

    Navy records of an investigation found McCain’s first crash was due to pilot error, and not, as McCain has stated, an engine failure. Details of the 1967 Forrestal disaster from official documents, differ from McCain’s own, widely accepted recollection. McCain’s did admit to “daredevil clowning” in an accident that did not result in loss of his plane.

    McCain lost two Navy aircraft while piloting them. One crash was found to be be McCain’s fault, the other due to an engine failure of undetermined cause. A third was destroyed on the deck of the carrier USS Forrestal when a missile fired accidentally from another plane hit either the plane next to McCain’s or, less likely, his own aircraft, triggering a disastrous fire that killed 134 sailors and nearly killed McCain. A fourth plane was lost when he was shot down over North Vietnam on a bombing mission over Hanoi.

    A fifth alleged “crash” turns out to be a misinterpretation of a flight accident that did not result in the loss of the aircraft. McCain admitted to causing that incident through “daredevil clowning” but returned safely.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2015 at 4:41 pm #

      What do you think of the charges made against him by other pow’s, namely that he cooperated with the enemy while a prisoner?

  128. Zoltar July 19, 2015 at 5:01 pm #

    Rather than prolong the suspense until midnight, I hereby declare the end of my quixotic experiment, here in Dodge City. As expected, it’s way too soon to propose building a public library or a concert hall as long as the Skorenzy Boys are still allowed to gallop into town and shoot up the saloon every night. But, before I load the buckboard and head back East, here are my thoughts on Greek Pudding.

    Like the United States today, the EU, at the level of control, is an imperial entity. Its purpose is to transfer wealth upward, from poorer nations to richer ones and, eventually, to the oligarchs for whom nationality is irrelevant except for tax purposes. At the moment Greece is in the maw of the beast and Germany is making bratwurst at the other end of the grinder, but even German citizens will not ultimately be safe from this cannibalistic dynamic.

    The purpose of the loans that have been made by the EU and IMF to Greece and the other PIIGS nations has never been to allocate capital efficiently or to promote growth; it has been to create debt and financially enslave those nations. The loan money was never intended to reach the Greek people and, indeed, little was ever out of the control of the oligarchs . But the clever trick, as in America, has been to privatize the wealth while socializing the debt, and now the Greek people are supposed to pay it all off for the foreseeable future and beyond.

    As others have observed, these are and never have been legitimate loans and, therefore, they have not created legitimate debts. The only thing the Greeks can and, indeed, must do is to repudiate them – not apologetically, but with a raised middle finger and a chant of however you say “neener neener” in Greek. Doing so will not, of course, solve Greece’s financial problems. They will still be desperately poor but, at least, they’ll have the dignity of working out for themselves how to make use of what little they have left to build some sort of future as a free nation. Nor will they have to stand by as the oligarchs chip the Parthenon into souvenir-size pieces to display in their game rooms at home.

    Greek repudiation of EU debt may, of course, bring down the EU debt altogether, as Portugal and others stand next in line to follow suit. How do you say “tough titty” in German? This silly stalemate has gone on more than long enough. We might as well get on with it, see what happens next, and then seek a constructive way to go forward.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2015 at 7:28 pm #

      Bravo, a cogent post. I didn’t stop you but only salute you. You could have done this at any time.

      The answer for Greece is neither Marxism nor Capitalism since both are in bad with the International Bankers. The answer is National Socialism. Luckily, Greece has a strong National Socialist Party, The Golden Dawn. Let us pray they succeed.

  129. wpa--ccc July 19, 2015 at 5:17 pm #

    Janos, McCain says he was tortured, but others say that, being the son of an Admiral, he was not mistreated by the Vietnamese. McCain himself says he is ashamed at his cooperation with the enemy. Some of McCain’s fellow prisoners, who were tortured and did not collaborate with the enemy, have challenged McCain’s story, expressing their belief that McCain was not physically abused at all and that he was well treated, being an Admiral’s son.

    By McCain’s own account he may have begun cooperating with the North Vietnamese within three days of his capture and was fully on board within two weeks, providing specific intelligence on his aircraft carrier, its aircraft, and the support vessels attached to it, information that was later featured in North Vietnamese radio broadcasts.

    McCain told his North Vietnamese captors highly classified information, the most important of which was the package routes, which were routes used to bomb North Vietnam. He gave in detail the altitude they were flying, the direction, if they made a turn… he gave them what primary targets the United States was interested in…the information McCain provided allowed the North Vietnamese to adjust their air-defenses. As result…the US lost sixty percent more aircraft and in 1968 [and] called off the bombing of North Vietnam, because of the information McCain had given to them.

    A number of American prisoners of war were left behind in Indochina in 1973 and McCain has obstructed any efforts to open Pentagon files and follow up on leads to determine the status of the POWs and the “missing in action.” McCain has blocked all efforts to make any serious search for the missing in action and POWs.

    McCain’s cover up of Vietnam era POW sightings could well have been driven by fear that some released prisoners might have unpleasant things to say about his activities while at Hoa Lo prison.

    McCain’s recent visit to Syria to demonstrate support for the rebels is, in fact, a violation of the Logan Act which forbids the conduct of foreign policy by anyone outside the executive branch of government.

    McCain has consistently and irrationally advocated an undeviating hard line against Russia.

    McCain supports untouchable defense budgets, American Exceptionalism, and a proactive “defense” policy that is a holdover from the George W. Bush years. He constantly flouts his patriotism and war record, which have become essential parts of his political persona, and he might well be reasonably described as the leading advocate of militarism in the United States Senate.”

    Trump got it right about McCain, Janos… McCain has done immeasurable damage to the United States. He is no hero.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2015 at 7:25 pm #

      I agree. You really are growing as a person now. You just forgot to mention McCain’s support of open borders and against the 2nd Amendment.

    • AKlein July 20, 2015 at 8:32 am #

      McCain’s readiness to engage militarily, his love of war, exposes him. I have known several people who had been in hot combat. Some who were wounded, even seriously. To a man, none glorify war. None. And most won’t even speak of it.

  130. wpa--ccc July 19, 2015 at 5:26 pm #

    “This silly stalemate has gone on more than long enough. We might as well get on with it, see what happens next…”

    =====================

    That is exactly what we have been doing for the last 10 years of Clusterfuck Nation predictions of the Dow falling to 4,000.

    We got through another week without plague, no ebola. No nuclear war. No collapse of the EU.

    All we can do is take it a week at a time. The last 520 weeks have been mistaken in their predictions: no black swan has taken the Dow down to 4,000.

    But there is always next week to be fearful about.

    • Zoltar July 19, 2015 at 5:53 pm #

      You are absolutely correct: Jim’s prediction of collapse has been wrong, wrong, wrong – so far.

      Perhaps you’ve already celebrated your 90th birthday and you’ll die in your sleep tonight with him never having been proved right.

      Like Orlov’s analogy of the decayed bridge, no-one can predict when it will fall. In the meantime you can keep giving Jim the ol’ raspberry.

      But chunks of cement keep falling out of the bridge, revealing rusted-out rebar.

      You need to keep being right week after week. He only needs to be right once.

  131. wpa--ccc July 19, 2015 at 5:49 pm #

    Trump is wrong in saying his crowds are bigger than those of Bernie Sanders. Sanders’ largest crowd was 10,000 in Madison, Wisconsin. Trump’s biggest crowd was in Phoenix at 4,200. The Phoenix Fire Department said the crowd was capped at 4,200 in accordance with the fire code for the ballroom.

    Trump, who is now leading opinion polls in the Republican presidential primary race, has a theory on why no one agrees with his estimates. He says the Fire Dept. doesn’t want to admit they broke the fire code by allowing “12-15,000.”

    Typical Trump exaggeration. Unfortunately for Trump, the 4,200 cap was confirmed by other independent media sources, supporting the Phoenix Fire Dept number of 4,200, less than half the size of Bernie Sanders’ crowds.

    • Q. Shtik July 19, 2015 at 8:21 pm #

      It doesn’t matter. Neither Trump nor Sanders will be our next president.

  132. FincaInTheMountains July 19, 2015 at 6:19 pm #

    The most important type of crisis that humanity is experiencing today is the ideological and civilizational crisis. The only idea of the purpose of human life that exists today is the idea of endless consumption. But it’s already faltering for many reasons.

    And the alternative idea for humanity does not exist yet. Under the alternative idea I understand not abstract arguments or theories, but The Idea that is capable of capturing imagination of the large number of people. In some countries, there are some surrogates of such ideas. For example, for China it is the seizure and consolidation of global leadership. For Russia it is a confrontation with the West for a right to be an independent geopolitical center. For a number of Arab nations, it is to create a caliphate. But that’s exactly substitutes, none of which answers the questions “Why” and “What’s next.”

    In an increasing disillusionment with the idea of over-consumption and the inability to find a replacement more humanity is slipping into a full-fledged degradation. Moreover, some of the processes running under the idea of overconsumption negatively affect the ability of mankind to generate and implement any alternative idea. In particular, it concerns the field of education.

    The more deeply and broadly man is educated, the less he is a subject to the temptations of excessive consumption, the more he cares about spiritual matters (and not necessarily religion). At the stage of globalization of idea of super consumption the global processes of primitivization of mass consciousness were launched to create an ideal audience for consumer advertising campaigns. But the same processes virtually eliminate the possibility of an active and conscious participation of the person in the birth and implementation of any idea of further human development.

    Imagine for a moment that in some incomprehensible way we managed to extinguish the current crisis. And with the help of the same media that is now pushing overconsumption, to impose the idea of necessity of expanding humanity into the Outer Space. This could by an order of magnitude increase the capacity of the system and give a significant boost to development of the mankind.

    But guess what percentage of the living with their deficient education and incapable to any real work, would be able to become an active participant in this process? Probably, less than 0.01 percent, not more. The rest are simply not suited to this kind of creative work.

    • Buck Stud July 19, 2015 at 9:59 pm #

      I agree with a lot of what you write above. Unfortunately, the student loan scam has herded far too many students into fields that are considered ‘economically viable’. And who can blame them? After all, a 100,000 grand albatross around one’s neck renders the educational pursuit of a philosophy degree far too heavy to consider: Ditto for other subjects as well.

      A much better option for those inclined to such educational pursuits is the auto-didactic path. Granted there are a lot of extremely gifted American philosophy professors that would surely benefit the minds of many students but who will really have the time to properly digest a philosophy education when trying to keep the student loan collectors at bay in the higher education aftermath?

      Screw the debt-slave paradigm of higher education America: Seek out curriculum advice from those willing to freely share and just start reading.

      • BackRowHeckler July 20, 2015 at 3:47 am #

        Excellent advice, Buck.

        I would also add, learn yourself a trade, something you can make money at. With a trade and some self taught book learning you can call your own shots and be an independent and free person.

        brh

    • AKlein July 20, 2015 at 8:24 am #

      Your thoughts regarding the futility of an existence driven by consumption are spot on. When man must spend all his time just to survive, all is well. The trouble starts when he has enough, and especially when there is a surplus. No more reason for existence. Hustling for one’s next meal removes much of the question of what’s important. So what to do? Personally, I prefer the Buddhist approach to this conundrum.

  133. wpa--ccc July 19, 2015 at 8:24 pm #

    Zoltar, JHK often makes very short-term and very specific predictions, such as this one:

    “Personally, I would expect the gasoline bombs to be flying around Syntagma Square before [July 15] the middle of the week.”

    Sometimes his predictions are very accurate. On Wednesday July 15 the petrol bombs began to fly, fulfilling JHK’s prophecy.

    But on other things, bigger things, we are still waiting.

  134. wpa--ccc July 19, 2015 at 8:34 pm #

    “It doesn’t matter. Neither Trump nor Sanders will be our next president.” –Qshtik

    Q., you are a political junkie… full of common sense. So do you think either of these popular candidates might be Vice President?

    Do you believe it will be Bush v. Clinton? I don’t think so.

  135. BackRowHeckler July 19, 2015 at 9:46 pm #

    Greek Pudding?

    Greece is already out of the news. That was last week’s worry. I haven’t heard or read anything about Greece since about last wednesday, and I’m an inveterate newspaper reader, and news watcher.

    brh

  136. Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2015 at 9:58 pm #

    http://www.dailystormer.com/omalley-says-white-lives-matter-immediately-apologizes-and-says-they-dont/

    Big Chief Spaghetti Spine. Him no good. Vote Trump. Him good.

  137. wpa--ccc July 19, 2015 at 10:11 pm #

    “Greece is already out of the news.” –brh

    Greek banks re-open tomorrow. Can. Kicked. Down. Road.

  138. wpa--ccc July 19, 2015 at 11:20 pm #

    wpa: “do you have any actual evidence to support your opinion?”

    Qshtik: “No, just common sense that obviously is superior to yours.”

    EVERYTHING IS OBVIOUS: HOW COMMON SENSE FAILS US

    http://www.amazon.com/Everything-Is-Obvious-Common-Sense/dp/0307951790

    Drawing on the latest scientific research, along with a wealth of historical and contemporary examples, Watts shows how common sense reasoning and history conspire to mislead us into believing that we understand more about the world of human behavior than we do; and in turn, why attempts to predict, manage, or manipulate social and economic systems so often go awry.

    It seems obvious, for example, that people respond to incentives; yet policy makers and managers alike frequently fail to anticipate how people will respond to the incentives they create. Social trends often seem to have been driven by certain influential people; yet marketers have been unable to identify these “influencers” in advance. And although successful products or companies always seem in retrospect to have succeeded because of their unique qualities, predicting the qualities of the next hit product or hot company is notoriously difficult even for experienced professionals.

    Only by understanding how and when common sense fails, Watts argues, can we improve how we plan for the future, as well as understand the present—an argument that has important implications in politics, business, and marketing, as well as in science and everyday life.

  139. wpa--ccc July 19, 2015 at 11:32 pm #

    “Screw the debt-slave paradigm of higher education America” –Buck Stud

    ==========

    Bernie Sanders for President 2016

    “Sen. Bernie Sanders’ plan for making public college tuition more affordable is relatively straightforward: He wants the government to pay for it. All of it.

    On Tuesday, the Democratic presidential candidate and independent senator from Vermont introduced legislation intended to eliminate tuition fees for undergraduates at all public colleges and universities. Annual tuition costs at those institutions add up to roughly $70 billion, according to a fact sheet from Sanders’ office. The proposed legislation would require the federal government to compensate for two-thirds of that sum, with the states making up the additional third.

    “It is a national disgrace that hundreds of thousands of Americans today do not go to college, not because they are unqualified, but because they cannot afford it,” Sanders said Tuesday at a news conference. “This is absolutely counter-productive to our efforts to create a strong economy and a vibrant middle class. This disgrace has got to end.”

    College tuition costs have skyrocketed since the middle of the 20th century, rising by 1,120 percent between 1978 and 2012. This has forced each successive generation of students to take on ever-increasing debt: The recently graduated college class of 2015 has an average debt burden of $35,051 per student, the highest of any time in U.S. history.”

  140. nsa July 19, 2015 at 11:33 pm #

    Here in Ft. Meade and Langley, punk mccain’s nickname is “songbird”….his viet jailers claim he signed everything put before him and they all got along great…..and no torture was even required. That’s our boy. We gave him a senatorial seat in return for his admiral daddy whitewashing the USS Liberty massacre……..

  141. wpa--ccc July 20, 2015 at 12:04 am #

    SANDERS LARGEST CROWD YET WAS IN A RED STATE

    At his latest campaign rally in Phoenix, Arizona, on Saturday, Bernie Sanders drew more than 11,000 people, who gathered to hear him speak about income inequality, money in politics, climate change and growing wages.

    “Somebody told me Arizona is a conservative state. Somebody told me the people here are giving up on the political process. That’s not what I see here tonight,” Sanders said

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-crowd-phoenix_55abdc8ce4b0d2ded39f4061?utm_hp_ref=politics

    • ZrCrypDiK July 20, 2015 at 5:15 pm #

      You know, he just came and visited PDX, Orygone, with a venue booked for about 700. I found out about it that very same day on the local news (KGW 8), when I watched the DVR recording ~4 hours later – so NO GO for me (would have gone, had I known “in time”). Wonder how many in total ended up showing (apparently 712, according to his own faceplant page – too bad I deleted that social site years ago)?

  142. FincaInTheMountains July 20, 2015 at 5:23 am #

    An inventive way of solving Greek banking withdrawal limit problem

    The pilot of the Greek Air Force, Major Homer Sisostopulus on his F-16 landed in Turkey, near the ATM, withdrew €2,078 and using the terrain (not to be seen by Turkish radar) returned to the airport of departure.

    The pilot landed three kilometers from Seke, at an abandoned military airfield, invisible to Turkish radar, called a taxi, withdrew in the nearest ATM 6000 YTL (about 2,078 Euro) and returned to his home airfield.

    Aircraft number with the Greek identification markings had been reported to the police by the Turkish taxi driver, last name of the pilot was acquired from the data of the ATM.

    Major flight task included the control of the portion of the Aegean Sea, because of latest territorial disputes between Turkey and Greece.

    http://www.radiocockpit.fr/2015/07/16/le-pilote-dun-avion-de-chasse-grec-se-pose-illegalement-en-turquie-pour-retirer-de-largent-au-distributeur/#sthash.f4aZOh5d.LjS2jf3k.dpbs

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