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Markets shrugged off the Brexit vote in a couple of days. They shrugged off Donald Trump’s election in a single day. They shrugged off the Italian referendum result in a couple of hours. Heck, in this mood they would shrug off an alien invasion of planet Earth.”

— Albert Edwards, Société Générale

At this time of year, only the hardest, coldest heart can fail to show good will to fellow man. That said, the silvery orb of Donald Trump’s post-election honeymoon may set sooner than expected as Ms. Yellin prepares to hoist her interest rate petard this week. Even a modest up-bump in the Fed Funds Rate is liable to prang the orgy of corporate share buybacks fueling the eight-year bull market that many formerly sane observers think is a permanent feature of the human condition. The bond market bull also seemed to last a lifetime and that’s gone south now, too.

Poor Trump’s mammoth ego has led him by the snout into a deadfall trap. The Trumpublican voters and cheerleaders expect another Morning in America miracle. Sorry, been there, done that, that was then, this is now. Conditions were quite different in 1981. For one thing, a brutal decade after the 1970 all-time US oil production peak, the Alaska North Slope fields came into full flow, along with the North Sea and Siberian fields.

The Alaska bonanza did not boost US production back to 1970 levels, but it did take the leverage away from OPEC, and it stuffed the elevated price-per-barrel back down to levels that an industrial economy could tolerate. The rest of the Reagan miracle was accomplished with debt. The case was similar for Mrs. Thatcher over in the UK. She was not an economic magician, just the beneficiary of a brief oil boom that made Britain a net energy exporter for two decades, providing an illusion of permanent prosperity and cover for the financialization of the economy. Now, with the North Sea oil playing out, all that’s left is the banking necromancy in Threadneedle Street.

Reagan also came in at the height of Fed Chair Paul Volker’s war on inflation, when the interest rate on the ten-year US treasury bond topped at 15 percent in September of 1981. Imagine paying 18 percent interest rates on your mortgage! How was that a good thing? Well, it wasn’t, not at all, it was a very bad thing for a while — but for Lucky Ronnie Reagan it meant interest rates had nowhere to go but down. And because bond prices correlate opposite to rates, the value of bonds had nowhere to go but up, which they did for 30-odd years until right now. And all that time, the world bond market couldn’t get enough of them — also till now, when big holders like China and Saudi Arabia are puking them back out.

When Reagan stepped in the national debt was only (only!) about half a trillion dollars. It will be over $20 trillion when Trump hangs his golden logo on the White House portico. Oh, by the way, consider that a trillion dollars is a thousand billion dollars and a billion dollars is a thousand million dollars. Just so you know. Reagan had room for plenty of government finance monkey business. Trump has no room. Bush One, Clinton, Bush Two and Obama dug the deadfall debt trap for poor Donald and the election shoved him right into it. He thinks he’s on an upper floor of his enchanted tower; he’s actually down in a pit.

Trump thinks he’s going to rebuild highways and bridges for another century of Happy Motoring — to make America like it was in 1962 forever. Fuggeddabowdit. The bond market is poised for collapse as I write, and Trump’s money people (that is, the Goldman Sachs gang he has assembled) are talking about issuing fifty and 100 year “Build America” bonds. Their nostrils must be rimed with the frost of Medellin.

They’re certainly not going to accomplish this trick by raising taxes. On who? Corporations? Ha! The One Percent? Double-Ha! Everyone else? Pitchforks and torches!

American oil companies can no longer make a buck doing their thing. Exxon-Mobil’s U.S. production business lost $477 million in the third quarter, the seventh straight quarter in the red. Why? Because it costs a lot more to get the stuff out of the ground than it did ten years ago, and that high cost is bankrupting oil companies and industrial economies. That is the stealth action of Peak Oil that so many people pretend is not happening. It will ultimately destroy the banking system.

The disappointment issuing from this dire set of circumstances is apt to be epic as Trump flounders and the furious tweets of futility waft out of the hole he’s trapped in. Christmas will be over, and with it the hopes of a retail reprieve. Gasoline may remain cheap, but the little people won’t be able to buy the cars to run it in. Or buy much of anything else. Not even tattoos. We’ll soon discover the temperamental difference between Donald J. Trump and Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

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546 Responses to “Trumpxuberance… Until It’s Not”

  1. KK December 12, 2016 at 9:18 am #

    No tattoos?? Oh, the humanity!!!!!

    • Cold N. Holefield December 12, 2016 at 10:50 am #

      They plan on fracking the fuck out of America and the entire planet until we’re forced to drink, eat and bath in the toxic waste of its aftermath. As we said, Jim, it’s already creepy out there and it’s going to get a hell of lot more creepier.

      Grab That Pussy!!!!!

      The Power Behind The Throne

      • Elrond Hubbard December 12, 2016 at 1:01 pm #

        I hereby call on the city of Washington, D.C. to change the address of the White House to 1600 Gropecunt Lane.

        Maybe that’ll encourage Saruman the Orange to spend his time there, instead of holed up in his Tower of Orthanc in Manhattan.

  2. RobH December 12, 2016 at 9:21 am #

    …all that remains is the banking necromancy in Threadneedle Street..

    I think that’s moving to Paris and Frankfurt after Brexit…


    ps Have you considered a new ‘tweet of the week’ feature?
    I was thinking presidential tweets

  3. K-Dog December 12, 2016 at 11:00 am #

    “At this time of year, only the hardest, coldest heart can fail to show good will to fellow man.”

    I was in upstate New York last week and found the upstate people most friendly. Not a cold heart did I meet and I had a great trip. Returning to Seattle by way of JFK I found the skyline of New York City is now ruined by 432 Park Avenue. America’s premier city now has a very ugly tattoo and with Trump, America also has an ugly tattoo on its ass!

    Trying to post this comment was very difficult. It looks to me like a denial of service attack is going on!

    • James Howard Kunstler December 12, 2016 at 11:07 am #

      Yes, some kind of problem put the site down around 9 a.m. — hmmmm, just when I usually post. Can’t say for sure yet that it was DoS attack. Techies are trying to suss out the situation. Sorry for any inconvenience and frustration.
      — JHK

      • K-Dog December 12, 2016 at 11:22 am #

        I noticed you had a great interview at the American Herald Tribune yesterday. That website is listed in the ‘propornot’ Fake News list so I speculate you may have attracted some harassment.

        When you think about the fake news list, the intent behind it may have been to target sites for harassment. Do you really tell people not to look at an elephant in the room if you don’t want them to notice it? They will be sure to look and can’t help looking.

        • AHtheHumanity December 12, 2016 at 12:13 pm #

          There goes my invitation to Kunstler to speak at our knitting and bakers conventions!

  4. Bro Jobe December 12, 2016 at 11:01 am #

    There is something that is, finally, pathetic about this cartoon of a President-Elect, his combover askew at 3am, half a bacon-cheesburger devoured as his greasy fingers Tweet madly.

    Sounds like the final act of something, not a new beginning.

    Time to invest in whoever makes pitchforks and torches.

  5. noel bodie December 12, 2016 at 11:09 am #

    Thanks for the reminder of where we are. I’m thinking, get ready for a new round of “blame it on Bill” ( or Hillary, or Barak) because as we saw in 2008 the party of personal responsibility never is responsible for anything.

    • venuspluto67 December 12, 2016 at 12:24 pm #

      It’s all rhe fault of teh Irish! They drikn to much, and tehy’re funy-loooking!!1! 😛

  6. pequiste December 12, 2016 at 11:12 am #

    Trumpxuberance will have a least a two year run if the Sacks of Gold man crew can keep the funny money pumping through the financial world. And it is those same same people (Sacks of Gold men -Vampire squids) who gave us the $20 Trillion debt and Dow at 19K + are now (particularly after the inauguration) in the hunt for Dow 40,000 and a $40 Trillion debt to ensure when this sucka goes down it will be EPIC.

    The money masters will be safely ensconced in Cayman Islands; Tahiti; and Switzerland and don’t give a flying fuck about the actual timing because short of the N. Korean nutjob going full retard, the(ir) plan will go forward. And it is irrespective of The Donalds’ fulminations about cancelled contracts with Boeing or the F-35 being such a colossal waste of resources and the extreme vetting of immigrants. The new president is just along for the ride, on top of the bucking bronco that is.

    In the good news department it is liberating to be without mobile phone and internet for three weeks.

    Additionally I could encourage the CFN to visit Lisbon, Portugal and see how a mature, world-class city does mass transit: exceptionally well by my reckoning. And the alimentation, and the wine, and the scenery and about the friendliest and nicest people I have have the pleasure to meet. Anywhere.

  7. malthuss December 12, 2016 at 11:17 am #

    ‘When Reagan stepped in the national debt was only (only!) about half a trillion dollars.’

    A sobering fact. Now that debt is 40x what it was. Or 42x.

    • BeerBarrel December 12, 2016 at 11:25 am #

      I remember going over the numbers during Reagan’s era –

      For each of the eight years Reagan was in the WH, he operated on a deficit of $200B for the arms buildup (MX-18, etc.) Nearly a 2 trillion dollar debt increase by Reagan alone.

      • lsjogren December 12, 2016 at 3:11 pm #

        Our whole system is set up to reward a president who keeps the pyramid scheme going. Both Hillary and Trump were intent on doing so and Trump probably even more brazenly than Hillary.

        The goal is to keep the economy chugging on new debt so long as you are in office and hope that someone else is in power when the thing finally comes crashing down.

      • DrTomSchmidt December 12, 2016 at 8:31 pm #

        It was mostly waste, I will grant you. Still, Reagan’s defense build up and the Saudi-engineered oil price collapse broke the back of the Soviet economy and ended the cold war. That might be worth 1.6 Trillion in new debt.

        Now, if we had had a REAL peace dividend in the 90s, spending the money we wasted on poking hornets’ nests over in the middle east on rebuilding, as JHK says, our rail system that would embarrass the Bolivians, we might have profited from that investment. But CIA man Bush told April Glaspie to tell Saddam he could invade, and then he put troops in Somalia that Clinton kept there, and before long the peace dividend was gone. We spent it to give Francis Fukuyama and company the illusion of the end of history.

        It must have felt GREAT to be unchallenged boss of the world from 1991 to today. But as Chris Rock said in another context, “every day I check my mailbox for my OJ check: nothing.” Just the same with my rulers running the world.

        Soon, it won’t feel too good to be the king.

  8. zekesdad December 12, 2016 at 11:19 am #

    “American oil companies can no longer make a buck doing their thing. Exxon Mobil’s American production lost $477 billion in the third quarter, the seventh straight quarter in the red.”

    They may have lost money in the U.S., but they more than made up for it from overseas production. Their quarterly earnings were as follows:

    9/30/16 $2.65 bil.

    6/30/16 $1.7 bil

    3/31/16 $1.8 bil.

    12/31/15 $2.78 bil.

    Last year Exxon made “only” $16.5 billion as a result of low oil prices. In 2015 they raked in $32.5 billion.

    It likely would have helped their U.S. business if they hadn’t paid $30 billion to acquire XTO (a natural gas producer) when gas was selling for over $10 / MCF. They made the CEO of XTO a billionaire. He is now part owner of the Texas Rangers baseball club.

    • Cold N. Holefield December 12, 2016 at 11:32 am #

      XTO is a fracking company. Let’s call it what it is. Natural Gas Producer is euphemistic.

      It gets even worse. Many of the wells XTO exploited they bought from Exxon Mobil for pennies on the dollar since the Easy Oil was depleted. XTO had the latest and greatest technology and process for extracting any remaining oil and for fracking Natural Gas. A couple of decades later, XTO sells it all back to Exxon for an infinitely greater amount than XTO initially paid for the wells. It was a Money Tree.

      • zekesdad December 12, 2016 at 3:27 pm #

        A fracking company is one that subcontracts to oil and gas production companies to fracture rock such as Frac Tech. Fracking is simply a tool to enhance production, just as acidizing or water flooding are, and has been around since the 1940s. It’s quite safe, and the hazardous chemicals used in the process are used below the water table and separated from it by impermiable rock, and then pumped out. There is no euphemism in calling a company that produces natural gas a natural gas producer. I don’t know XTO in detail, but I’d bet they bought production and leases from others besides XOM. I think we both agree that XTO and its CEO made out like bandits when they sold out to Exxon at the top of the market. Contrast that to the CEO of Chesapeake Energy who kept leasing and drilling all the time gas prices were plummeting. If somebody offers you a stupid amount of money, sometimes the best thing to do is to sell.

        • Cold N. Holefield December 13, 2016 at 7:56 am #

          If the preponderance of the remaining America Natural Gas is trapped in the rocks, then a “producer” is, for all intents and purposes, a “Fracker.” Just because they subcontract out the technique doesn’t mean it’s not the core of their business. They are Frackers. Their profit is derived from Fracking, and bullshit, Fracking is not “quite safe.” Aside from Fracking being unsafe, you have to chuckle when you read this article. Tillerson is gung-ho about Fracking, for all the obvious reasons, but not when the blight of it is at his doorstep. What a fucking hypocrite. Fracking is good as long as you keep it adjacent to, or in, the communities of The Little People. Let them lose their souls — they’re animals anyway.


          Yes, XTO purchased many leases, not all of them from Exxon Mobil. I agree with your implication that Tillerson is not as great a businessman as many claim him to be. Being the head of the largest Oil Company on the planet is kind of like taking candy from a baby, meaning we, the ultimate captive customers, have no choice. It’s why the oil companies should be nationalized. There is no competition or free market when it comes to oil or any fossil fuel. To keep it “private” is theft, pure and simple.

        • orbit7er December 13, 2016 at 10:21 am #

          Fracking is proven to cause Earthquakes – ie see Oklahoma recently and also scientific evidence compiled in Colorado which proves the causation. Which only makes sense – if you are messing around with shale rocks pulverizing them and pulling out oil then you are likely to cause geological disturbances.
          Just as in Florida, constant lowering of the watertable under the limestone and sand Florida floats on causing the ubiqituous sinkholes like one across the street from my mother’s old house

  9. Walter B December 12, 2016 at 11:34 am #

    Monsieur Edwards makes a good point about markets shrugging off any and everything. Easy to do when it is all just BS to begin with, a rigged game run by charlatans and thieves. The regular people in the world are pretty good at shrugging off everything as well (perhaps not the loss of the ability to tattoo however) and so I find myself often wondering whether or not this rigged game can go on forever. Debt may continue to grow to levels well beyond belief without any noticeable consequence, because you must remember, the consequences of over indebtedness are only manifested once those who hold the debt call it in. Until then, if this ever actually occurs, the slow and mind numbing decay can continue to swell and stink forever. Now THAT is the real doom for calamity and collapse would, on the other hand, bring blessed relief and actual entertainment for some of us.

  10. orbit7er December 12, 2016 at 11:40 am #

    Great commentary today! As my Environmental and progressive groups go crazy with Trumps claims he will restore coal, pipelines, fracking and tear their hair out that we will fry the planet I have warned about the Peak Oil effects. The NYTimes had an interesting little graph of US CO2 emissions which have slightly INCREASED or stayed level under the supposed anti Global Warming crusader Obama. The sad fact is what really put a dent in CO2 emissions was the 2008 financial crash….Which I agree with Kunstler is coming again in spades…( or perhaps shovels, pitchforks and guns…)
    I disagree with an earlier commenter here that the Goldman Sachs wizards will goose the economy for 2 years of Trump.. I just don’t think they can do it… The QE is over, Fed rates are going up, there is going to be no way to hide the disasters coming…
    Peak Oil has been the major blind spot of 350.org and the electric car Enviros who just don’t get it that fracked oil cannot solve Peak Oil issues, just make oil too expensive to continue Happy Motoring as usual. And electric cars are way too expensive along with the noisy noxious leaf-blowers, squads of Hispanic lawn maintenance crews, etc etc. AND the robots for fast food pushed by Trump’s proposed Labor Dept nominee Andy Puzder. NPR had the usual cornucopian commentary by Andy Puzder how robots would eliminate all those fastfood workers crusading for $15 per hour…
    Ain’t gonna happen…

  11. thwack December 12, 2016 at 11:59 am #

    “Gasoline may remain cheap, but the little people won’t be able to buy the cars to run it in. Or buy much of anything else.”


    What if the reason for cheap gasoline is because demand is down because people don’t have a job to drive to and fro everyday?

    Without a job to drive to, you don’t have money to spend anywhere you COULD drive to?

    In addition, many of the jobs in the “New Economy” don’t pay enough to maintain a motor vehicle, let alone buy one.

    So this is another variable for the peak oil equation that could serve as a head fake to confuse people.

    • jim e December 13, 2016 at 6:25 am #

      My GOD GIVEN RIGHT IS “a job to drive to”? RIDE A BICYCLE?

      • jim e December 13, 2016 at 6:26 am #

        MIGHT STINK?

  12. trolleybill December 12, 2016 at 12:08 pm #

    Well Jim Saudi & Russia may have agreed to cutting their flow of oil back which caused our fracking efforts to go belly up. I’m no fan of fracking and a proponent of mass transit preferably light rail everywhere. I’ve researched the history of the interurban and see it as a solution to the coming oil shortage, vehicle cost and pollution / global warming. As a newly retiree N.E. Ohio transplant now in N.E. Florida I would on the small but adequate pension luv to have a nicer bigger passenger rail. They do give seniors a hefty discount and would travel a lot on it if it was greatly improved.

  13. teddyboy46 December 12, 2016 at 12:11 pm #

    Is it possible that some government intelligence agency thinks CFN is so subversive that they have to hack the site to protect the American people?[sarcasm]

    50 and 100-year bonds? how stupid does Goldman Sachs think the public is? wait do not answer that.

    The Revolution starts in 2017 or we are doomed.

    • Bro Jobe December 12, 2016 at 12:18 pm #

      Wasn’t the Ruskies behind todays’ DDoS attack at CFN. Probably someone in love with Trump and who refuses to see that all the promises he made are hollow and Fate has one direction for this doomed Republic: downward.

      How far down? No one, not JHK, no me, not you, can answer that.

  14. Bro Jobe December 12, 2016 at 12:14 pm #

    However it comes about, I cannot think of a worse person to be nominally in charge during a collapse than Trump.

    He’s not completely sane and he’s a cloistered 1%er, for all his populist posing. Why do I have visions of The French Revolution? Not that it will do a bit of good if the energy-and-finance bonazas are really going to go down for the count. Killing the rich means little when money suddenly has no value for anyone.

    Since 2008 and its wakeup call, I’ve tried to explain again and again that what JHK calls the “notional” concept of modern money is behind our woes. Patiently I explain that we’d be better off backing our currency with oil than with faith and photons, that such a system will never survive a massive cyberattack or a simple, old-school market-panic. That the national debt is going to destroy us.

    I get called a “goldbug” and worse. So I stopped trying and shut up.

  15. B9K9 December 12, 2016 at 12:15 pm #

    Jim, I’ve always enjoyed your unique observations and pointed criticisms. While most of your commentary seems based on true political beliefs, it’s evident there’s a touch of theatrics as well to ensure entertained readership.

    I believe the ‘reveal’ with Trump will be whether he pushes infrastructure spending towards support of the standard high energy consumption economic model. When queried about the Carrier deal, he in effect admitted that modern manufacturing may indeed become more automated, but at least robotics could be made domestically.

    Do partisans really believe Trump isn’t a bright person? How would you know he doesn’t read your blog and agree with your overall assessment and prognostications? I mean, it’s pretty hard to refute the facts of peak oil. It’s one thing to characterize someone as a dunce in order to score political points, but another to blindly assume they don’t understand exactly what you’ve been writing about.

    So, let’s start with the premise that Trump knows and understands about these issues. How then would you go about establishing domestic infrastructure spending to encourage investment in emerging areas? What happens if you see this general emphasis in forthcoming proposals?

    In return, I’ll side with you if the planned expenditures are nothing more than additional freeways and other ‘happy motoring’ spending boondoggles.

    • James Howard Kunstler December 12, 2016 at 3:03 pm #

      Shucks B9K9… lots of people don’t believe in Peak Oil, including supposedly bright people with big audiences. They refute it — without especially understanding the dynamics. I’m inclined to think Trump does not have a clue about it. Just sayin…. — JHK

    • K-Dog December 13, 2016 at 12:21 am #


      You wrote “support of the standard high energy consumption economic model” as being a reveal which shows if Trump understands Peak Oil. Yep perhaps it is possible to understand the oil situation and yet still not give a shit about resource depletion.

      Perhaps Trump does the cornicopian and preaches technology will always come to the rescue. These kind of people are everywhere.

      Perhaps Trump diverts his concern into a firm conviction that a certain class of society need not concern themselves with the issues of resource depletion because his tribe is the guardian of civilization. In that case coping with peak oil problems will be our problems not his. Coping with the loss of cheap oil will be the problem of a financially decimated average man but Trump’s jet must fly.

      Asked during the election if he thought he was a success Trump replied that he was because he had made a lot of money. He did not say that he felt good about the opportunity to make the lives of people he met along his life path happy or anything else by which a man can measure success. Trump was given a moment to augment his answer but I fear Mr. Trump may understand nothing more than competition and the pursuit of riches. He had nothing more to say.

      Now Trump as Mr. Potter our President can shut down the Bailey Saving and Loan and up the rent on everybody. Rent is how Trump makes almost all his money after all. America elected a landlord. Perhaps Mr. Trump will create the U.S. of Pottersville because he has a warped view of the world. Understanding peak oil or not understanding it may not matter in the case of Trump if all he understands as the measure of a man is how much money he makes or how well a man can compete in the making of it.

      My opinion of Trump is that he does not have a clue about peak oil. Trump has lived inside the bubble of a certain self promoting privileged social class exclusive to the New York City elite all his life. Trumps understanding of the world is limited to the understanding of this class which while cosmopolitan is limited. Within Trump’s class there appears to be no concern about resource issues except as an opportunity to make money.

      Returning to your: “support of the standard high energy consumption economic model“.

      If an understanding were cultivated where support of this model were identified and scorned that would be movement in a positive direction.

      • K-Dog December 13, 2016 at 12:26 am #

        Alway something: Yet perhaps it is possible to understand the oil situation and yet still not give a shit about resource depletion.

      • thwack December 13, 2016 at 2:55 pm #

        “Asked during the election if he thought he was a success Trump replied that he was because he had made a lot of money.”


        And he’s basically correct.

        Money is the only thing you are allowed to hoard without being called greedy.

        • K-Dog December 13, 2016 at 10:21 pm #

          I can’t agree. Greed is strongly tied to money. Seems to me you pulled your own definition of greed from a dark and moist body cavity. I like this one.

          If you want to see the true measure of a man, watch how he treats his inferiors, not his equals. J. K. Rowling

          • thwack December 15, 2016 at 12:02 pm #

            Seems to me you pulled your own definition of greed from a dark and moist body cavity.


            No, just give it some thought, then look around?

            If you grab another piece of chicken before you finish the piece on your plate; what do they call you?

            Indeed, greed IS strongly tied to money; but in THIS culture, you will never be called “greedy” for stacking up more than you could ever spend.

  16. elysianfield December 12, 2016 at 12:22 pm #

    B O H I C

    Well, ladies and germs;

    As a continuation of my (last week’s) angst-filled post regarding the mandated investigation of possible Russian meddling in the election of Trump, this appears today in the Huffington Post;

    “The December 19 Electoral College Vote Must Be Postponed Until We Figure Out What’s Going On With Russian Electoral Interference”

    In the article, there was a vague reference to a “re-vote” if interference was found.

    Do you hear the drums?

    • baird December 12, 2016 at 2:08 pm #

      As an old military friend has advised me and also the ………Michael Moore the stage is being set for a takeover by the real men. So don’t worry it will work out 🙂

      • BackRowHeckler December 12, 2016 at 2:23 pm #

        When the Republicans win a national election, its due to perfidy, cheating etc …

        When the Democrats win its all on the level.

        That’s the way it works.

        Did the Obama administration interfere in the presidential politics of any foreign countries? Israel? Ukraine?

        When the Democrats lost the 1860 presidential election they took the country to war. However, they were men. The pantywaists, faggots, snowflakes, precious pearls, BLM criminals and alienists in the current Dem party can make no such claim.


        • baird December 12, 2016 at 3:03 pm #

          Easy, BRH it was a joke, you missed my point.

          • BackRowHeckler December 12, 2016 at 7:55 pm #

            You’re right, my apologies, Baird.

            I should have read your post a little more carefully.


  17. venuspluto67 December 12, 2016 at 12:27 pm #

    I think Trump is a child in an adult’s body, and certainly the president we’ve earned for ourselves at this point in our dysfunctional history. I have entirely lost faith, confidence, and trust in our society, so now I just take everything that happens and whatever I hear with a very large grain of salt (and sometimes a clove of garlic).

    • Elrond Hubbard December 12, 2016 at 1:19 pm #

      I shouldn’t re-post links I’ve already posted, but “child in an adult’s body”, yeah:


      • Janos Skorenzy December 12, 2016 at 2:31 pm #

        So you’re going to lambast him for four years like you did Bush? As if he was no better than Bush? You suck.

        But you did it to Obama!, you respond. He deserved it and yes, you folks have taught us well. The Left destroyed civil discourse in this country. Let’s be clear about that. And who taught them? Read Lenin who advises destroying your opponent utterly in terms of his character and motives. Nothing is sacred, nothing. The Revolution is All in All.

        Well Elrond, now we have adopted the same attitude. It’s winner take all now.

  18. B9K9 December 12, 2016 at 12:39 pm #

    Wow, a quick scan of the initial posts confirms my basic suspicion that this site has attracted quite a following of fringe thinkers. Nothing spells disenfranchisement from common sense more clearly than deep, thoughtful concern trolling about possible ‘Russian influence’ and hitches in the electoral college.

    Jim, you’ve got some great ideas and insights. For the past 8 years, you’ve been justified in your frustration with a person you supported and thought would put the nation first. Instead, none of the hard issues were addressed. Rather, Citi handed BHO a memo of who to appoint and then the printing presses were fired up to mask the black hole of the US economy.

    Nothing suggest that Trump doesn’t get exactly what you’re writing/speaking about. I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, just like you hung in there with BHO until it was clearly evident he wasn’t going to tackle the hard issues.

    In the meantime, your space is filled with unhinged fanatics who aren’t even remotely close to adding anything of value to the general conversation with respect to the direction this country needs to go in the face of globally declining energy resources.

    Really, I think you can do better. By doing so, you could attract a broader, more insightful crew.

    • SteveO December 12, 2016 at 1:30 pm #

      “I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, just like you hung in there with BHO until it was clearly evident he wasn’t going to tackle the hard issues.”

      I’m trying very hard to give him the benefit of the doubt, but so far his appointments of billionaires and Goldman insiders doesn’t bode well for either a real change of course, or a reaction to the next financial crisis other than “save the big banks and screw everyone else.

      • BackRowHeckler December 12, 2016 at 2:43 pm #

        How about if he brings back Van Jones, Maoist? Will that make you happy?


      • orbit7er December 12, 2016 at 3:43 pm #

        Killing the Corporate Rule TPP was 1 good thing Trump accomplished. Also I agree with Trump that we do not need to waste millions or a few billion on a new set of Air Force Ones..
        And Trump has also tweeted against the F-35 which is a major fiasco whose total cost may come to $1 Trillion – currently pegged at $400 Billion for all the planes but we know how that goes.
        I support that..
        But Trump’s cabinet so far is a disaster and look what the Banksters Obama appointed in 2009 did…
        Especially Steve Bannon is a dangerous racist

        • SteveO December 13, 2016 at 1:22 pm #

          He kill anything yet. The lame duck session could still pass TPP. Trump hasn’t been inaugurated yet. Even then, it won’t be dead, treaties can hang on for decades without being ratified by all parties.

    • Elrond Hubbard December 12, 2016 at 1:32 pm #

      Sadly, not everyone can have Yves Smith’s comments section. Jim’s commenters skew well to the right. Some are thoughtful, but there’s a sizable infestation of racist trolls and what we now have to call alt-rightists. There’s also a shape-shifting Hillarybot who might be posting their own thoughts, but is more likely waterfalling talking points from David Brock’s Correct the Record or some other shill-factory.

      I’m maybe the only Nader/Green lefty around here. I do what I can. Welcome!

      • Janos Skorenzy December 12, 2016 at 2:13 pm #

        That’s what happens when you try to genocide the White Race. In Green terms, we’re an endangered species and you don’t give a shit. Green is just the new Red.

        • Anotherplayaguy December 12, 2016 at 2:37 pm #

          Oh, golly gee, the poor white race.

          We’re ALL endangered species, and there isn’t any shit left to give. In fact, we are a dead species walking. To quote Trump, “Just something I heard.” With a whole passel of self-reinforcing feedback loops to back it up.

          • swmnguy December 12, 2016 at 3:04 pm #

            Well, you know, all of us white guys (myself included, as a middle-aged, middle-class white guy from Middle America) have been silenced by the Politically Correct Diverse Feminazi-whatevers.

            If you don’t believe us, just listen to us, going on and on and on, dominating every conversation talking about how we’ve been silenced. You can’t get a word in edgewise, and since you didn’t say anything, that proves we were correct. We’ve been silenced and nobody has ever heard anything we’ve said.

            And we’re being exterminated, which is why we’re all over the place and in control of everything.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 12, 2016 at 7:02 pm #

            All of our homelands are being inundated by 3rd Worlders. And we’re down to just over 60% of America (from over 90%) in just fifty years. What else would you call it?

            Face it, you’re utterly clueless because you’re uncaring. And to have zero empathy for your own Race is very, very strange. If you admire other races, you should care about your own because they care about their own. Only freaks and sickos don’t.

          • thwack December 12, 2016 at 8:17 pm #

            “All of our homelands are being inundated by 3rd Worlders. And we’re down to just over 60% of America (from over 90%) in just fifty years.”


            White people may not even be native to Europe?

            Janos, America was never a white country to begin with; you guys came here from Europe and you saw it was full of nonwhite people and decided to stay anyway.

            THEN, as if that wasn’t enough, you dragged a bunch of black people over here in chains to make it even more nonwhite.

            Dude your logic is beyond absurd.

            In addition, what about all the white people in Australia?

            Listen Janos, as a measure of good faith, I will even entertain your answer to this question (the question Ive never got a racist to answer)

            What percentage of the planets population do YOU think should be composed of white people?

            Now everybody be quiet and let Janos answer

          • Janos Skorenzy December 12, 2016 at 9:18 pm #

            Thank you for your interest, Thwack! How much of the Planet do you think Whites should have? Zero, right? You just said we “may not even be native to Europe.” And you also support (I assume, but please chime in if I’m wrong) endless Black emigration from Africa until the whole world is blacked out of existence. How much of the world are Blacks entitled to? One Hundred percent, right? Since “we’re all Africans” and they’re more African than others, therefore they have more right to live than anyone else, right Thwack!?

            Ok, now say we gave back the New World to the Indians. Who is going to give us back the lands we once inhabited? We once lived in North Africa, Asia Minor, and much of Asia, all the way to Western China. Are the Turks, Berbers, Arabs, Mongols, Han Chinese, etc going to give up and move out? How convenient for you to leave that part out.

            Let’s face it, all land is sword land. The Earth laughs at men who say they own it. That’s they mystery behind the Earth Mudra of the Buddha. “He” has witness countless men come and go. And he witness the Buddha’s Enlightenment – and the Enlightenment of the previous Buddha’s as well.

            Meanwhile, the Mexican savages continue to ethnically cleanse Blacks from California. Whites were the best friends your backward race ever had. You didn’t appreciate us – but you’re a gonna, jus like you all do now in South Africa. Everyone who cares or cares enough to know, knows that Blacks were better off under Whites. We’re willing to come back and rule Black Africa for the benefit of all, but you must obey us. And in return, we claim access to the mineral rights. Hand wash hand, Thwack. We’re not going to do it for nuthin.

          • thwack December 12, 2016 at 10:21 pm #

            You didn’t answer the question.

            How can I help you construct a coherent narrative if YOU don’t know what you want?

            I wanna speak to your manager.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 13, 2016 at 12:06 am #

            C’mon Thwack, you opened a door and now you don’t want to go in. You’re trying to short circuit the conversation. Did you expect me to say 100%? Perhaps you’re projecting your own racial absolutism onto me?

            And obviously I brought up many valid points that you have no answer for. You’re trying to bluff your way out of a fight that you started but know you can’t win.

          • thwack December 13, 2016 at 8:10 am #

            Isn’t it interesting that white supremacists never answer my question?

            I had no idea such a simple question was so lethal to them?

            Either he doesn’t know?

            or he knows but wants to keep the answer secret?

            Janos, the art of the deal requires you take a position; otherwise how can anybody negotiate with you?

            Unless you are only pretending to seek negotiation?

            No wonder no one takes you seriously.

      • orbit7er December 12, 2016 at 3:44 pm #

        I am in your camp Elrond!
        I voted for Jill Stein since NJ was not going to vote for Trump

        • Frankiti December 12, 2016 at 4:43 pm #

          Elrond can’t vote. He’s a cannuck in love with Trudeau’s petit dejeuner.

    • thwack December 12, 2016 at 3:47 pm #

      “In the meantime, your space is filled with unhinged fanatics who aren’t even remotely close to adding anything of value to the general conversation…”


      at least its not moderated to death like most blogs and websites where comments have to be “approved” so they are in agreement with the host.

    • Q. Shtik December 12, 2016 at 7:13 pm #

      you hung in there with BHO until it was clearly evident he wasn’t going to tackle the hard issues.

      In the meantime, your space is filled with unhinged fanatics who aren’t even remotely close to adding anything of value to the general conversation – B9


      B9, please be more specific. Which hard issues did BHO not tackle?

      Name the people here you consider to be unhinged fanatics.

      You seem to assume that we’re all in total agreement on these things.

  19. sprawlcapital December 12, 2016 at 1:24 pm #

    I need help understanding how a high interest rate on a bond means a lower price for the bond. Intuitively, it would seem to work the other way around. A high yield would make the bond more attractive to the buyer, wouldn’t it? And the buyer would be willing to pay a higher price for the bond, right?

    • beantownbill. December 12, 2016 at 2:08 pm #

      You have to understand how bonds and the bond market works. Take a 1 year Treasury note the gov’t issues at 3% in December, 2016. That means you lend the Feds $1,000 and over the life of the note, 1 yr., you receive (earn) $30. In theory, at the end of the year, the gov’t pays you back the 1k, plus you’ve already received $30 in interest.

      Let’s say you plan on holding the note until expiration. In reality, when you buy the Treasury note, the gov’t gives you a 3% discount and charges you $970 for the $1,000 note. Let’s say the day after you buy, rates go up to 4%. In say, January, 2017, the gov’t issues a new 1 yr. note. It would be issued at 4%, so any buyer of the new note would only pay $960. If you wanted to sell your existing 3% note in the bond market, a buyer would only offer you $960 instead of the $970 you paid, so in effect the price of your note has dropped.

      This is a slight simplification of the process, but I hope it helps.

      • sprawlcapital December 12, 2016 at 6:26 pm #

        Thanks, Bill. It makes sense now. A raise in the interest rate on new bonds drives down the price of existing bonds,

        Reagan was able to build up the military without raising taxes because he could pay back the principal and pay interest on existing bonds by borrowing at lower rates, but he ran up the debt while doing so. If the Fed raises rates, Trump will not have that option.

        • thwack December 13, 2016 at 8:13 am #

          Not to worry.

          Baby Boomers will fight to the last Millennial.

  20. SteveO December 12, 2016 at 1:24 pm #

    “They’re certainly not going to accomplish this trick by raising taxes. On who? Corporations? Ha! The One Percent? Double-Ha! Everyone else? Pitchforks and torches!”

    I spent Saturday night at a party at a state rep’s house that was full of the Trump stalwart. To a one, they all said that they didn’t expect Trump to keep any of the promises he made during the election, not the wall, not deporting illegal immigrants, not “tax relief”. Some even believed that the Paul Ryan congress had some great healthcare plan they were going to put in after they repeal the ACA, other than “don’t get sick”.

    The point I want to make is that these people were so caught up in cult of personality, I don’t think they would care if Trump doubled or even tripled their taxes. They didn’t seem to care that Trump is putting a fox in charge of every hen house and appears to be setting up a kleptocracy that would have made the autocratic leaders of the banana republics blush. It was purely, Trump’s the president, everything is going to be beautiful.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 12, 2016 at 2:16 pm #

      That’s sad if true, but unusual in my experience. That would make them no better than the millions of Hillary/Democrat Cultists.

      Most of us are ready to dump Trump if he betrays us. I’m not thrilled with many of his picks either.

      • SteveO December 13, 2016 at 1:24 pm #

        Glad to hear to hear there is at least one Trump supporter who’s eyes are open and critical thinking is engaged.

    • thwack December 12, 2016 at 3:58 pm #

      Its called the African “Big Man” effect.

      Or in Trumps case, the African “biggly man” effect.

  21. elysianfield December 12, 2016 at 1:29 pm #

    “Nothing spells disenfranchisement from common sense more clearly than deep, thoughtful concern trolling about possible ‘Russian influence’ and hitches in the electoral college.”


    Your post was contemptuous and deeply dismissive. My “disenfranchisement from common sense” relates to several topical events occurring within the last week;

    The President calls for an investigation of possible foreign “meddling” in the election of Trump (No problem here, no one would object)

    The President mandated that the investigation be concluded before the Inauguration. (Hmmm, why would he do that… results before the inauguration?)

    Calls begin in the leftist media for a possible delay in the vote of the Electoral College pending the results of the investigation (What? Never seen or heard of this in my 70+ years, no precedent…even legal? Why the delay, unless the results might allow for political machinations…but no worries there, we certainly trust our institutions)

    Calls in the leftist media for a re-vote, if meddling is found. (We can expect meddling to be found whether it occurred or not, at what level or other, and without firm evidence of it’s ability to have skewed the results, or not).

    These Presidential actions and posts are but an opening shot that will build to a roar in the coming weeks. The country is deeply divided, hostile, armed and motivated.

    I predict a constitutional crises, at the very least, if this gambit continues to it’s expected conclusion.

    Let us give this premise a couple of weeks…if I am wrong in my assessment, I will prostrate myself before the readership, my apologies will be forthcoming, I will be shamed into silence. However if things do transpire approximately to what I am seeing, I will expect you to present yourself, and kiss my ring, as well as any other appendage or plantar surface that I might present.

    Unhinged fanatics, indeed.

    I never concerned myself regarding “Possible Russian Influence”…this has nothing to do with my angst, other than giving the Democrats leverage in their current gambit.

  22. Janos Skorenzy December 12, 2016 at 2:19 pm #

    How is the recount going? Have they found anything? Like dead people and illegals voting for Hillary?

    They couldn’t steal the election because it was a landslide for Trump. That’s not to say they didn’t try though…

    • orbit7er December 12, 2016 at 4:00 pm #

      I voted for Jill Stein and I am no fan of Hillary Clinton. But when Hillary won by 2 million votes despite voter suppression you can hardly call that a “landslide” for Trump. Yes it was shocking that Trump apparently very narrowly won some traditionally Democratic states but that was by the narrowest of margins…

      • cbeard December 13, 2016 at 6:19 pm #

        Considering that voter opinions and affection for Trump were at or near the same lows as for Clinton, I’d say the number of votes he received was astounding. Yes I would call it a landslide victory. I’m still deliriously happy that he defeated the Hag and all the mainstream GOP figures. He may or may not do the right things, but sometimes you have to tear it all down and start over.

    • Majella December 12, 2016 at 5:04 pm #

      Jeez. Janos, your trolling is getting really tiresome.

      Trump via the GOP with CrossCheck and insane Voter ID laws and every other dastardly trick they could pull from the hat to suppress minority voters.

      where are those millions of illegal voters your Asswipe President-Elect is claiming? Huh? Where are they?

      2.5 million more Americans voted AGAINST Trump (some of them may even have been voting FOR Clinton, but that’s irrelevant when the options are so dire).

      • Majella December 12, 2016 at 5:05 pm #

        ..”Trump via the GOP with CrossCheck and insane Voter ID laws and every other dastardly trick they could pull from the hat to suppress minority voters, stole the election…” .

      • City_of_76 December 12, 2016 at 11:39 pm #

        I second that — Janos, you’re boring and unwelcome. Go away.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 13, 2016 at 12:07 am #

          The answer to 1984 is 1488.

  23. Janos Skorenzy December 12, 2016 at 2:26 pm #

    Rush, KGB files: Ted Kennedy asked Yuri Andropov in 1984 for help in defeating Reagan.

    For my part, I see no evidence Putin interfered, nor has anyone offered any. People loathed Hillary with good reason and didn’t vote for her. Including many Democrats who stayed home or voted for Trump. But if Putin did interfere, it’s forgivable since she threatened world peace – and the Media refused to do its job and report honestly and objectively on the campaign. If they were doing their job and America was otherwise in good shape, I might feel differently.

    In any case, we owe a debt of gratitude to the real Reporters: Assange, the DNC leakers, Anonymous, Alex Jones, Drudge, Breitbart, and the rogue FBI agents who may have forced Comey’s hands. Kudos gentlemen.

    • orbit7er December 12, 2016 at 4:09 pm #

      I agree with you on that – As Glenn Greenwald wrote there is no evidence that Russia interfered with the election. That is a red herring
      There is ample evidence in many States of the ongoing Republican efforts to keep people from voting that are unlikely to vote Republican

      • cbeard December 13, 2016 at 6:22 pm #

        My ditto was for Janos.

    • cbeard December 13, 2016 at 6:21 pm #


    • SpeedyBB December 14, 2016 at 8:58 pm #

      There were so many silly & outrageous aspects to this last election. I’ve been following them since 1960 (so Nixon didn’t shave and lost West Virginia, ho-hum) and there’s been NOTHING like this.

      I thought it was hilarious when the lineup of former Presidents all appeared on TV pleading to the electorate not to vote for the Orange Menace. Every time those losers popped up on the tube I thought “Well there’s another hundred fifty thousand votes for The Donald”.

      Ditto for the entitled movie actors, artists and other “celebrities” who howled their fabulous celebrity-outrage. People all over FlyoverLandia were just thoroughly pissed. They would have voted for a purple-assed baboon just to spite Madame My-Turn and her Neo-Con supporters.

      Well they did, I know.

  24. Cold N. Holefield December 12, 2016 at 2:34 pm #

    B9KP said: In return, I’ll side with you if the planned expenditures are nothing more than additional freeways and other ‘happy motoring’ spending boondoggles.

    Ummm…where have you been? He has clearly stated that he wants to extract every last drop of oil and every last molecule of natural gas from America’s vast reserves of it. The price of oil is already heading up, up, up in anticipation of this with the aid of Saudi Arabia and Russia cutting production. And, he wants to bring back Big Coal. He is putting in place a team that will do just that. There is no mystery here. He’s a liar and he’s fucking with the vulnerability of The Little People.

  25. capt spaulding December 12, 2016 at 2:36 pm #

    This is just the calm before the storm. My cynicism is on high alert. Expect the worst and hope for the best. The wheels are coming off. Trump is a madman, & the Republicans aren’t far behind.

  26. rollie December 12, 2016 at 2:37 pm #

    “Their nostrils must be rimed with the frost of Medellin.”

    Now that’s some poetry right there.

  27. Janos Skorenzy December 12, 2016 at 2:41 pm #

    Trump doesn’t believe the godlike CIA! Now be honest: if a Democrat Elect had this attitude, you’d be thrilled. Who are these people, but a quasi-secret Government, believing God knows what and accountable to God knows who.

  28. rollie December 12, 2016 at 2:45 pm #

    Love the “Russian hackers” meme though. Like the country isn’t plenty batshit-crazy enough to elect Trump on its own, either through voting fraud or even fair & square. They’re hitting that shit HARD in the news media though, like the Boston Marathon “bombing” which is how you know it’s bullshit.

  29. capt spaulding December 12, 2016 at 3:16 pm #

    It’s very interesting, the majority of people here are pretty well read. and the difference seems to be what various people make of the same information. My own preference is to look for people who don’t have a particular agenda to advance, and who are trying to deal with the reality of what’s going on. I’m a pretty neutral guy. I have political leanings that I would like to advance, however I try not to let those opinions color my perception of what is actually .going on.. That’s one of the reasons I was attracted to Kunstler. I don’t think that people realize the seriousness of what is going on, and how different that the reality has become. Being a cynic, It wasn’t that hard to see where we were headed after “W” was elected, Well, those same people just elected Trump. It’s nothing personal, but I don’t think that people on either side of the political spectrum have any idea about how crazy things are gonna become. The rules are gone, & you better look for ways to minimize your exposure. Hopefully I am wrong, I’d prefer to be wrong, but I don’t think so. Keep your powder dry, that’s all I’ve got to say. Good luck to us all.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 12, 2016 at 3:24 pm #

      The Bush Dynasty hates Trump – as do the Mainstream Media and Democrat Establishment. They all have far more in common than they have with Trump.

      But yes, he’s obviously an Insider with some of the individuals or factions of the higher Elite – or he’s creating a new faction amongst them. Hopefully it will be better than the previous ones of the recent past. It could hardly be worse.

    • ozone December 12, 2016 at 8:14 pm #

      Despite a muddled, short-sighted, bullshit “analysis” by vladdie that pretends to be a response, I will actually respond: I’m right there with you in every respect you state in your comment. …And good luck to you as well.

      “Hello, I must be going…”

      • Janos Skorenzy December 12, 2016 at 9:30 pm #

        Can you be less specific, please? In other words, I was right about everything I just said.

      • ozone December 13, 2016 at 6:28 pm #

        So, the vladdie-nator has shat out a Yuge, stinking non sequitur here, as is his wont.
        HOWSOMEVER, as he is a paid minion and “professional” purveyor of misdirection, his supposed ‘opinions’ and ‘positions’ can be ignored in *all* cases. This clears out a bit of the lingering stink. (Just bring a fan and a scroll-by finger and life suddenly becomes a bit more focused on real things.)

  30. Janos Skorenzy December 12, 2016 at 3:21 pm #

    Obama, a couple of years ago, “Tell Vladimir I’ll have more flexibility after the election”.

    Wtf? Get a grip you Democrat assholes. And the CIA were the ones who helped Hillary with her Benghazi video tape scam. Perhaps Trump needs to clean house here as elsewhere.

    • malthuss December 13, 2016 at 4:48 pm #

      and end at the Morgue?

  31. fodase December 12, 2016 at 3:21 pm #

    Herr Trump appoints another general, to head the Dept of the Fatherland:


    Nice to see real Americans appointed to keep the country safe. That incompetent quota hire jeh johnson is an abomination, he instructed the moslem bitch killer’s pro-jihad posts to be destroyed because, you know, that’d be profiling.

    End result was 14 dead and many, many lives shattered in San Bernadino.

    Bring on the generals, Sir.

  32. fodase December 12, 2016 at 3:54 pm #

    The wheels are coming off. Trump is a madman, & the Republicans aren’t far behind.

    wow you are given to exaggeration.

    let us know when the first wheel falls off

    btw you missed some world’s biggest wheels falling off the past 8 years with catastrophic unvetted immigration by people that went on US welfare and murdered Americans in the name of their god

    — who are 100% supported by lefty imbeciles

    Just one of innumerous wheels that spun off the ship-of-state since 2008

    …but Trump is the madman.


    • Majella December 12, 2016 at 6:08 pm #

      Opinions stated as fact. What a world we have now.

      Have you seen the recent survey that showed 59% of Trump voters believe that unemployment is UP from 2008…? When in fact it has dropped from 10% to under 5%? You guys just don’t let reality get in the way of your imaginary narrative. Sheeesh.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 12, 2016 at 7:05 pm #

        Wait – you still believe official statistics? They don’t count people who stopped looking for work. The real rate is closer to 20%.

        • thwack December 13, 2016 at 8:22 am #

          Are people in jail and prison counted as unemployed?

        • malthuss December 13, 2016 at 4:46 pm #


          • thwack December 13, 2016 at 6:45 pm #


    • Q. Shtik December 12, 2016 at 8:26 pm #

      Just one of innumerous wheels – fodase


      numerous or innumerable, choose one or the other…but in a way I like your new coinage. It’s kind of in the irregardless ilk.

  33. fodase December 12, 2016 at 3:58 pm #

    It was purely, Trump’s the president, everything is going to be beautiful.

    Projection on your part, I know of several Trump supporters who will jettison him if he fails us.

    Trump is the reaction to the symptom of insane regressive liberalism and a lack of respect for law and order.

    He can be fired at will.

  34. thwack December 12, 2016 at 4:15 pm #

    Part of “the art of the deal” is to look like a madman by taking extreme negotiating positions.

    Then, when you negotiate and meet in the middle, you are still way over mostly on your side.

    The wall, the Muslim ban… these are all positions for Trump to negotiate FROM.

    All the people freaking out about them are just making Trump look more serious, which is what he wants because it makes his position seem more strongular.

    • Majella December 12, 2016 at 6:09 pm #


      • elysianfield December 13, 2016 at 11:11 am #

        Trump was saying “Big League”…I miss-understood him the first time he said it also…sounded like “Bigly”…Big League.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 12, 2016 at 7:08 pm #

      You hit the head with the nail. Sharper than most of these Jukes and Jackson Whites.

      • thwack December 12, 2016 at 8:27 pm #

        But the problem is, when Trump meets another world leader playing the same “madman” game; neither one will back down so they will both pull out their guns and start shooting at each other like ni66ers in the ghetto.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 12, 2016 at 9:23 pm #

          Naw, war between superpowers is bad for “business” – like the business of breathing. I don’t get him hiring that Neo-Con Sob Bolton though. He wants to attack Iran – which is allied with our new friend Russia. Trump himself is bellicose against this interesting nation rapidly becoming a powerhouse. Let Israel take them on – they’re the ones threatened. And let them take the terrible comeback.

  35. amb December 12, 2016 at 4:46 pm #

    Earth is a cesspool. World governments are a cesspool. Our own Wash DC (Congress, SCOTUS, White House, K Street, Fed Reserve, etc.) is a cesspool of unbelievable corruption. We are in a dwindling spiral in our civilization, morality has decayed to a very low level, as has spirituality (actually per the definition of civilization, there really isn’t one on this planet).

    The description that this planet is “a floating lunatic asylum” was an apt statement.

    We are in history. Who knows what the historians will write about this period 50 and 100 years from now (if we are still here). No one really knows where we are headed.

    All we can do is hope that Trump’s minor influences push us in a better overall direction. May happen, may not. Prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

    Do what you can to flourish and prosper and make a good life for yourself and your family. Become financially intelligent through study and make your own economy, and avoid the pitfalls and boobytraps. And, do what you can to help others do the same.

    Teach morality, character, virtue, importance of education, importance of creativity and production, importance of contribution and participation, etc. etc.(all the amazing positive traits we possess as humans). What else can one do?

    • Frankiti December 12, 2016 at 4:57 pm #

      Nobody in history knew what the future would hold.
      This is and always will be a source of angst.

      In spite of having a rather long recorded history behind us, many of us expect patterns and behaviors inherent in our human kind to change. To get better. This expectation of better results from a broken and flawed system (humanity) is absurd.

      Progress of time does not equal progress of humanity, civilization, the universe.

      Teach lowered expectations, predictable expectations.
      Teach that the worst (death, illness, failure, pain) are life. There is no escaping it. Be prepared to deal with life.

    • orbit7er December 13, 2016 at 10:37 am #

      It is important to help your COMMUNITY! The nuclear family is too restricted to ensure the pool of help, resources and talents which will be needed for survival. One of the ironies of extreme Capitalism has been the dissolution of families going from extended families in the same household to husband/wife and kids to now increasingly single-parent (usually the Moms) households. I believe that people are tribal – we need more than just a nuclear family, we need a group of 100-1000 people for healthy sustainable living. Working with a community allows you to share many more resources and especially skills for gardening, carpentry, electronics, child-rearing, music etc…

      • Frankiti December 13, 2016 at 5:12 pm #

        You and Sebastian Junger

        • Frankiti December 13, 2016 at 5:15 pm #

          Although I agree with the premise. People need a coterie of sorts… problem is, this day and age, there seems plenty more that divides us than unites us. Ethnic blood ties are rather instinctual… and hard to replace.

          We have to stop pretending that we are not animals

  36. tucsonspur December 12, 2016 at 4:47 pm #

    The men are moving in, and the mice are moving out.

    Jill Stein has been bitch slapped by the courts, and now the Dems are demanding intelligence briefings before the electoral college vote a week from today.

    I hope Trump can do it, but I don’t see a coherent, workable plan in place to handle the economy. Lower taxes and begin huge, ambitious projects? Would the Chinese even think of buying those 50 and 100 year “Build America” bonds?

    Guess who’ll be paying for the Carrier “bailout”? The economy may now be simply unmanageable without a lot of suffering. No fault of Trump.

    “Ice nine” may be closer than we think.

    • Jill Stein is doing good work exposing what the Green Party has been focused on putting the spotlight on for years…

      The USA’s ridiculously inept voting and elections system

      And she’s making progress. Slowly, of course.

      • BackRowHeckler December 12, 2016 at 11:16 pm #

        Jill Stein got about 1% of the vote.

        Is that what you mean by ‘inept’?


        • malthuss December 13, 2016 at 4:50 pm #

          well uh duh, what the —.

  37. Frankiti December 12, 2016 at 4:49 pm #

    He hasn’t even stepped into office and this blog is already marching to the beat liberal media histrionics.

    The markets are going to crash… yeah, yeah, yeah… banking system destroyed.. yeah, uhhuh, uhhhh… he’s in a hole… yeah, yeah, yeah… bond, debt, oil… blah, blah blah.

    If Trump is right as much as this blog is so always wrong, we’ll be fine.

    • malthuss December 12, 2016 at 5:28 pm #

      If Trump is right as much as this blog is so always wrong, we’ll be fine.

      I doubt ‘we’ will be ‘fine,’ When the dollar dies, God knows what the USA will be like.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 12, 2016 at 7:10 pm #

        Once my patent for free energy goes thru, the sky’s the limit for America. If Trump hadn’t won, I was taking it to Russia. Already had my Russian language tapes and was practicing.

  38. seawolf77 December 12, 2016 at 5:54 pm #

    Dollar won’t die, it will have to be killed. When British pound ruled, the exchange between the currency that would supplant it was 4 to 1, now it is 1.5 to 1. The exchange between the dollar and the yuan is 6 to 1. That’ll start to come down soon, and Chinese goods will no longer be cheap.

  39. bukowskisghost December 12, 2016 at 6:32 pm #

    What doesn’t anyone here get? False flags have steered this nation since JFK got popped in Dallas. They figured out how to manipulate the matrix eons ago. The onslaught of the “fake “news” push is to steer us from the Pizzagate pedophile ring and all the very powerful sickos that populate D.C. …. as clueless as the Donald is, his election symbolizes a major crack in the “gardol shield” of the deep state

    • K-Dog December 13, 2016 at 10:25 am #

      Perhaps because nobody is really here. I prefer the company of real people and not the many specters conjured up by homeland security as flypaper. Because I am actually real I only drop in from time to time to return the favor of having had my chain yanked very hard.

      There are characters here like the anthropomorphic creations from this years Westworld TV series. Years roll by and they never get old. They loop through their same stories over and over. If need be they can go without sleep for days on end. for a fresh recruit can always take over the shtick of a particular trolling revenant.

      Originally it was all done to attract and identify dissidents and potential terrorists post 911. A true revolutionary or an authentic terrorist would never come here but that’s irrelevant. The real reason for paid specters to be here now is to simply consume their budget.

      As “it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it” this freak show will not be over any time soon. If it bums you out try and find the beauty. As Dolores Abernathy says:

      ” Some people choose to see the ugliness in this world, the disarray. I choose to see the beauty. To believe there is an order to our days. A purpose. ”

      • Cold N. Holefield December 13, 2016 at 10:41 am #

        Spot on, K-Dog. Westworld makes you question our World. Some consider that a silly notion, but is it really? Who’s to say we’re all not “hosts” of some sort or another. Perhaps it explains The Greys and Alien Abduction.

        I remember when my handler first made me read this passage. Now I understand. Awakenings. But like Putin’s Russia, perhaps there are no borders to this Mad Mad Mad Mad World. You awaken into a nightmare, so perhaps it’s best to never awaken, but it’s too late for me now and too late for you. There’s no going back. We’ve awoken — but to what?

        Dear, dear! How queer everything is to-day. And yesterday things went on just as usual. I wonder if I’ve been changed in the night? Was I the same when I got up this morning? I almost think I can remember feeling a little different. But if I’m not the same, the next question is, Who in the world am I?

        • K-Dog December 13, 2016 at 4:48 pm #

          Perhaps for you and I we can hear that it is and must be our own voices which fuel our decisions. Yet I must say perhaps, for it is easy to see that waking from a dream, when all your life all you have know is that dream, is not easy to do.

      • ozone December 13, 2016 at 6:36 pm #

        “Originally it was all done to attract and identify dissidents and potential terrorists post 911. A true revolutionary or an authentic terrorist would never come here but that’s irrelevant. The real reason for paid specters to be here now is to simply consume their budget.”

        …And thus do entrenched bureaucracies propagate themselves (and yes, justify their funding). I find this an abominable waste, while ‘They’ likely see it as “the cost of protecting the American Way”. Too bad the American Way has turned into the epitome of corruption and double-dealing…

        • ozone December 13, 2016 at 7:13 pm #

          Let’s not forget to add *secrecy* which is an absolutely necessary component to keep the gyroscopes spinning.
          Here’s a presentation that should appropriately chill the blood.
          (No, we’re not paranoid or cynical *enough*.) Former C*A agent blows the whistle. We’re probably done.:


          • K-Dog December 13, 2016 at 11:12 pm #

            A good article but:

            Not having signed any agreement as I am not a federal employee should have protected me from the machinery of intimidation. Yet machinery was unleashed to keep me quiet and it was effective for a while. Perhaps I was protected from experiencing the worst and gang stalking and having credit cards canceled three at a time simply does not count as intimidation. Further one could say the intimidation remains effective since all I do is express myself in comments and we know that what I type here or on other collapse oriented blogs won’t amount to a hill of beans.

            The truth is not having an agreement signed will not protect you from the intimidation system if you need to be silenced to preserve program secrecy. The article gives the impression that our spooks respect the rule of law. They do not.

          • ozone December 14, 2016 at 9:07 am #

            I do take your point, but our Constitution *should* be our shield against these unlawful intrusions and intimidations. However, we’ve seen what the string-pullers care for the rule of law since they got away with plugging JFK (as an example to us all).

            *Should* and *is* are two distinct and far-flung islands.
            Again, they don’t understand what the destruction of trust really means.

          • K-Dog December 14, 2016 at 11:46 am #

            It’s arguing semantics really because there is plenty that can be done and still be legal. Consider this:

            You have a self directed IRA and some of the paperwork isn’t quite right. It is really not your problem and the bank needs to fix their error but the bank does not get the PAY OR ELSE letter (14K) you do! You write a letter of intent and do what needs to be done. This would not have been necessary if your life was not suddenly under a microscope but thats how it goes.

            Before you find out you have to write the letter of intent and how to do it you are walking down the street minding your own business. Suddenly a total stranger passes you and in the blink of any eye leans over to say something to you. He says PAY YOUR TAXES and immediately pops back into the stream of foot traffic passing the other way leaving you mentally bitch slapped.

            Nothing is illegal in the above that I can see but believe you me; it TOTALLY freaks you out!.

            And I have to say, it really is quite clever.

          • ozone December 15, 2016 at 9:12 am #

            Brrr. Clever indeed, and as you say, probably quite “legal”.
            It’s done it’s job; we’re all self-censoring in speech, writing and thought. In the final analysis, I’d say our cynicism and paranoia are well-justified.

      • Dumbedup December 14, 2016 at 10:41 am #

        Very well said. Posts like this are why I bother to read the comments. There are those of us who try to thoughtfully discuss the issues Mr. Kunstler raises, and some he only hints at, in spite of all the bushwhacking demagoguery. Discerning the good guys in this life is a skill you have to develop.

        I will give Trump credit for one thing. He is trying to exclude the neocons from his government. But things like this usually have unintended consequences. Will his cabinet nominees be confirmed? If so, what will be the relationship to Congress which is mainly populated by neocons and neoliberals? How will the mid-term elections in 2018 turn out? (assuming we still have elections by then)

        • cbeard December 14, 2016 at 3:37 pm #

          In a perfect world, the mid term elections would see all incumbents voted out of office. If they have been in office more than one term and haven’t made waves in the status quo, then they need to go. I hope term limits will come out of the Trump administration. Thats probably just wishful thinking.

    • Spacecase December 18, 2016 at 5:54 pm #

      I agree with you about false flags. I think most (but not all) of the mass shootings are done by mind controlled sleeper agents. But pizzagate is nonsense. There is no code in the emails, just typos, omission of words, use of wrong word, etc. There is no basement or tunnels at Comet Ping Pong. There is no way that child traffickers would use a code that the FBI knew about.

      The more I look at the “evidence” for it, the more I think the whole thing is a mass delusion. It’s a groupthink witch hunt exercise by people who don’t understand logic, fact checking, and what it takes to substantiate something with real evidence. This “investigation” is a pile of horseshit made up of speculation, conjecture, innuendo, guilt by association, and just about every logical fallacy they have a name for.

      Here’s a clue: something “seeming creepy” is not evidence of wrongdoing. Especially when the creepy thing is in many cases not actually creepy once you understand the context of it. But of course, there are real sex traffickers, real pedophile networks, real occult ritual abusers. But pizzagate is bunk. I’m not going to debate it with you, but mark my words, NOTHING will come of pizzagate, because it’s simply not happening.

  40. nsa December 12, 2016 at 6:54 pm #

    Der Trumpster is a true gift from the heavens. It warms the heart to witness the vile leftie scum having a collective (weak pun) apoplectic breakdown. The rage, the denial, the hysteria, the impotent tears, the howling, the disbelief……..it is a dream come true. Imagine how the twisted freaks will react when the great man actually assumes the throne and starts to smite his many enemies. Cheer up, lefties. You only have 8 years to go…….

  41. fodase December 12, 2016 at 7:45 pm #

    so Majella believes catastrophic unvetted immigration is Opinions stated as fact.

    yep, 14 dead in San Bernadino, the gay nightclub killer (50 more), the mohammedan killer in macy’s, plus the bomber in new york.

    all unvetted and unchecked out and sons of the desert satan

    yep, opinions stated as fact

    All you lilly livered Trump bashers are going to likely be shown up by The Man’s skills.

    He’s VERY USED TO negotiating real-world outcomes that involve results in terms of physical things built and forging political-business accords that affect large numbers (thousands to hundreds of thousands) of individuals.

    It’s what every businessman and businesswoman has to go through to get things accomplished in the real world.

    Trump has much, much more thoroughly planned out than people give him credit for.

    Look how he skunked his competitors, the lying media, gained untold billions in free ads, had people hanging on his every tweet, etc.

    The man’s a machine, and thank God he’s an America-firster.

  42. fodase December 12, 2016 at 7:46 pm #

    That said, He can be fired by his supporters.

  43. BackRowHeckler December 12, 2016 at 9:46 pm #

    Jim makes a kind of joke at the end of this week’s post about people not even being able to afford tattoos. Its mostly young people getting these tattoos, and let me tell you, from my observation, young people are in a bad way right about now. The word ‘crisis’ is overused and most of the time its just so much hyperbole, but when I say there is a heroin crisis among 18-35 year olds, its not hyperbole. They’re dying in droves. Just this week an old guy I work with, his pretty 18 year old grand daughter who he was so proud of, died from a heroin overdose. In my own little world I personally know of at least 6 kids who have died in the past 18 months from heroin, relatives of friends and co workers. So far it hasn’t reached my own family. In our local newspaper there are from 1 to 2 deaths from opiates listed every day, all youngsters, and the cause of death is now stated by the grieving family as a warning to others. Its affecting even the smallest, most bucolic towns in the state. Mexicans are bringing it in, but they’re simply meeting the demand. I’m not sure if this plague will play itself out or it is the end of civilized humanity for a long time to come.


    • Buck Stud December 13, 2016 at 2:31 pm #

      Nasty stuff, BRH…what a tragedy for all the families.

    • malthuss December 13, 2016 at 4:52 pm #

      Since USA went into Afghanistan, heroin has been cheap and plentiful.
      connect the dots.

      I lost a neighbor, a rich kid who had dollars but no sense.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 13, 2016 at 9:17 pm #

      The very presence of the Mexicans and other arrogant minorities breeds despair. Every time was in seen, the subliminal message is sent, “This isn’t your country anymore.”

      • Janos Skorenzy December 13, 2016 at 9:19 pm #

        correction: Every time one is seen,

      • thwack December 15, 2016 at 11:43 am #

        OK Janos,

        WHEN did this become YOUR country?

        When the African slaves were exiting the slave ships on the East coast?

        When you stole Texas and California from Mexico?

        During the Civil War when you and your brothers slaughtered each other?

        And BTW – Lincoln never intended to send black people back to Africa; that was a cheap head fake; he no more intended to send blacks back to Africa than he intended to send horses back to Europe.

        After the Civil War the South was destroyed; Lincolns plan all along was to use blacks to rebuild it; which is exactly what happened.

        People = money

    • Dumbedup December 14, 2016 at 10:51 am #

      Yeah, that’s bad. Has their existence become so much more futile in the last 10 years that this has become a way to escape? Or have the dealers decided to focus on heroin anticipating legalization of marijuana? My own children are being bankrupted by the cost of medical care and health insurance premiums. My 2 older boys never attended college because they saw no benefit in a $100,000 4 year degree. One is on his own and the other lives with me and is handicapped. My daughter was entranced by the idea of graduating from college, but she is now facing the stark reality of $700-900 a month payments on college loans in a job market with very little potential to earn over $50,000.

  44. volodya December 12, 2016 at 10:32 pm #

    The Vulgarian-in-Chief is just a symptom, the economic necrosis across the mid-section of the country another.

    The disease though is the metastasizing tumour centered in Manhattan with a multitude of disease cells festering in Washington.

    The central argument of the Dubya and Obama administrations has been to throw nourishment at the cancer in the form of uncounted billions in Fed conjured funds. The two presidents solicitously nurtured the lethal growth and tended to its insatiable needs.

    The real remedy though is otherwise. They feed the cancer, the justification being that to do otherwise would kill the patient. No, you don’t feed it, you starve it, you send the polity’s immune system to do its worst.

    • pequiste December 13, 2016 at 12:21 am #

      American allopathic cancer “cures:”

      – cutting (surgery)

      – chemo (poison)

      – radiation (nukem)

      – palliation (more drugs)

      Remedy for tumour located in Manhattan, D.C. and California: all four plus a generous dose from Dr. Jack Kevorkian’s patented Thanatron.

  45. Bond yields fall

    capital seeks other assets

    Stock market does well

    Capital chases assets like real estate and stocks now.

    Income inequality increases.

    Costs rise for renters and generally, young people.

  46. janet December 12, 2016 at 10:47 pm #

    “The man’s a machine, and thank God he’s an America-firster.” –fodase

    I wish it were true, fodase. But Trump is a Trump-firster. Trump has cancelled his press conference about his business holdings. His business empire makes about 700 products and half of them are outside America. Trump is not bringing back his own business interests to America. He will do what makes most profit for Trump.

    But that’s not all. Because of Trump’s business empire he is susceptible to blackmail by foreign leaders. We now have a concrete example that this has already happened. Rachel Maddow reports:

    “The day after our presidential election in this country, one of the world leaders who called up Trump tower and spoke with the president-elect was the president of Turkey. And one of the perk up your ears strange things reported about that call is that while Donald Trump was on the phone taking that congratulatory phone call from the president of Turkey, in that same call, Mr. Trump brought up to the president of Turkey by name that executive from the Do?an company, the guy who was the key guy on Trump’s big twin towers in Istanbul.”

    Noting that Trump praised the man to Turkish President Erdo?an, Maddow continued.

    “Now Newsweek reports that Turkey has figured out how to turn that to their advantage and how to put the president of the United States over a barrel in the process. On December 1st, the top representative of the Do?an company, in Turkey’s capital city, got arrested by the Turkish police. Again, Trump as president-elect had taken an official call from the Turkish president and used that occasion to tell the Turkish president how much this one particular company meant to him, going so far as to name specific executives.”

    “Turkey desperately wants the U.S. government to extradite an imam [Turkish cleric Fethullah Gulen],” Maddow explained. “They [the U.S.] have said that they are not extraditing him. But if that’s what you wanted, what if you could squeeze the personal financial interests of the American president as a way to get what you want from the American government?”

    “I mean, the Trump family and the president-elect themselves, they stand to make millions of dollars from their relationship with the Do?an group in Turkey. That will stop if they get locked up,” she continued. “So they started locking them up. Nice leverage, right? it would be one thing if it was business leverage — but it’s leverage against all of us as Americans.”

    As Eichenwald notes in his article: “If Erdo?an’s government puts more pressure on the company that’s paying millions of dollars to Trump and his children, revenue flowing from that tower complex in Istanbul could be cut off. That means Erdo?an has leverage with Trump, who will soon have the power to get Gulen extradited.”


    • Frankiti December 13, 2016 at 5:35 am #

      WPAcowardasokaCCC hiding behind yet another name.

    • Dumbedup December 14, 2016 at 10:55 am #

      To my knowledge we have never faced a situation where a President’s business interests potentially conflicted with his Presidential duties. Some mornings I wake up and believe that we have been duped and this is all a last minute grab in an attempt to keep the wolves at bay a little longer and perhaps survive the coming apocalypse. My cynicism tells me that there are very few people in Washington who truly care about the average American. Actually, I think that is probably a very realistic assessment.

  47. janet December 12, 2016 at 11:16 pm #

    Turkey wants an Imam extradited from the USA. Turkey has leverage to get what they want because Trump has a business relationship with the Dogan family, owners of Dogan Holding, which is building twin towers in Turkey bearing the Trump name for which the Trump family stands to make millions of dollars.

    Turkey arrests the principals working on the Trump towers in Turkey… voila… they have Trump over a barrel. Trump has to concede to their demand, even if it is against American interest, or against American national security… or Trump takes a business loss. What do you want to bet Trump hands over the guy Turkey wants to keep his towers being built in Istanbul and guarantee his family business profits?

    • Q. Shtik December 13, 2016 at 12:49 am #

      Trump has to [concede] to their demand, – jansoka


      I prefer the word [accede.] Google concede vs accede to see why.

      But aside from word choice let’s wait and see if Trump throws Fethullah Gulen under the bus. And by the way, who says extraditing him isn’t the right thing to do?

      I think you, Charles M. Blow, Paul Krugman et al are getting a little hysterical and need to get a grip.

  48. DrGonzo December 12, 2016 at 11:40 pm #

    I used to read JHK weekly. Until I began to realize that he just says the same shit over and over again, with artfully-rearranged passages.

    I’m back, though, eagerly awaiting his annual forecast/prognosis for the coming year. That, at least, is always good for a laugh. Dow at 4500 by the end of 2017, perhaps? JHK hope springs eternal. But meanwhile, I’ve gotten modestly rich by ignoring his forecasts and making strategic stock investments. I think he predicted Dow 7000 this year. Whatever. He was only off by 12,500 points.

    • malthuss December 13, 2016 at 4:54 pm #

      Life is indeed full of surprises.
      When collapse happens, it will be ugly.

  49. janet December 13, 2016 at 12:33 am #

    Dr. Gonzo, this week’s title, “Trumpxuberance… Until It’s Not” echoes a theme on CFN: things are normal, until they are not; the economy is humming, until it collapses; the stock market is at 19,000+, until it collapses to 4,000, etc, etc. etc. In other words, CFN has made the profound discovery that life is change!

    Here we wait patiently for disaster, destruction, shrinking government until it can be drowned in a bathtub, “making America great again” all the while “preparing for the worst” … that’s just the way things roll on CFN.

    We are fantasizing about the catastrophes that will befall us when that Black Swan arrives, when the apocalypse is upon us, when civil society dissolves, when there are no norms, no laws, when we can finally use our big collections of guns and massive amounts of ammo to shoot the bad guys, to defend ourselves from the ever-present, in our minds and fantasies, swarming non-white hoards who want to do us harm. Lock and load! Not to mention other apocalyptic futures involving overshoot, climate change, natural disasters, UFO landings, EMP, terrorist attacks, peak oil, etc. that we imagine might do us in. We are a kind of misanthropic death cult that thrives on fear.

    All in good fun of course! We have spent decades scaring ourselves every Monday morning because we like the thrill… and the adrenaline that pumps when we imagine our very survival is being threatened. For some of us Trump has provided an extra thrill, imagining WWIII will be started by The Donald. Enjoy the CFN fake fear, Dr. Gonzo. We’ll be back again next Monday to do it all over again.

    • Q. Shtik December 13, 2016 at 1:02 am #

      For some of us Trump has provided an extra thrill, – jansoka


      You attempt to make light of it but after listing all of the fears expressed here every week (fears that never seem to pan out) you have actually been including Trump in this list every week for the past 18 months. Your stamina in doing so has been something to behold. Talk about irrational fear!

    • Frankiti December 13, 2016 at 5:38 am #

      We also change our screen name after repeatedly making fools of ourselves say, from Absalom to Asoka, to WPA_CCC to Janet

  50. Iananna December 13, 2016 at 1:16 am #

    And the world currently wits to see if this latest OPEC agreement to reduce production holds – history is sceptical.
    Nonetheless, the resilience of the financial Ponzyamid is fascinating.

  51. Janos Skorenzy December 13, 2016 at 3:25 am #

    It must have been a terrible embarrassment to Hillel rabbi Matt Rosenberg at Texas A&M University, when he tried to challenge the alt-right Spencer with ‘radical inclusion and love’. Spencer was invited to the University, and Rosenberg was there to challenge his bigotry:

    “My tradition teaches a message of radical inclusion and love,” Rosenberg said, in a video picked up by the Forward, and posted by the campus newspaper The Eagle. “Will you sit down and learn Torah with me, and learn love?”

    Spencer gracefully declined the offer to pray, but in return offered an appraisal of Judaism and Zionism that literally left the rabbi speechless. Spencer actually blew Rosenberg’s pink balloon, and Rosenberg didn’t know what to do. Here is what Spencer said:

    “Do you really want radical inclusion into the State of Israel?” Spencer said. “And by that I mean radical inclusion. Maybe all of the Middle East could go move in to Tel Aviv or Jerusalem. Would you really want that?”

    Rosenberg was silent.

    “You’re not answering,” Spencer said.

    “I’m not answering,” Rosenberg said.

    “Jews exist precisely because you did not assimilate,” Spencer went on. “That is why Jews are a coherent people with a history and a culture and a future. It’s because you had a sense of yourselves. I respect that about you. I want my people to have that same sense of themselves.”

    Shock horror. With all the generalism inherent in Spencer’s appraisal, he was touching upon a very central issue for Zionism, and he connected it to the Jewish culture – it’s the exclusivist vein that Zionism champions in Judaism. Whilst there may be many Jews in the world who seek greater or lesser assimilation, Zionism basically defies, on a national level, the issue of assimilation. Zionism assumed from the outset that Jewish assimilation is not viable and should not really be attempted, and realised its exclusivism (which Jews also blamed the world for upholding) through the Jewish nation-state. The ideology became reality, the Palestinians were and are continually being ethnically cleansed, there is Apartheid. This is the manifestation of what Spencer seeks, ‘white exclusivity.’ This ‘whiteness’ is just as real and valid as Jewish ethnic homogeneity, and those who truly believe in the validity of these constructs are the racists.

    In any case, Rosenberg didn’t have an answer. Spencer’s point was, after all, compelling. What’s more, he didn’t throw spiteful words at Rosenberg, he simply took Rosenberg’s ‘radical inclusion and love’ and questioned it in light of Israeli policy and Zionist ideology, and in a rhetoric martial-arts turn of energy, gave him back the ‘’inclusion and love’ by saying how he respects Jews, respects that sense of exclusivity.

    You’ve got to hand it to this neo-Nazi, he is a masterful debater. He’s certainly not stupid. And yes, Spencer said the same thing to our website last summer: “I respect Israel as a homogenous ethno-state.”

    But the same skills cannot be ascribed to Rosenberg. He has now admitted to not being a great debater anyway:

    “I wasn’t on the high school debate team,” Rosenberg told the Forward.

    He also thinks such a task, in the future, should be passed on to the “next rabbi”:

    “I really didn’t want to get into it. That might have been the wrong decision, but I’ll let the next rabbi deal with it,” he said.

    He continues to ‘humble’, or perhaps humiliate himself by saying “I am a simple teacher of Torah”.

    Well, that is some failure, huh? But Rosenberg doesn’t offer any actual answers to Spencer’s contentions. Perhaps because he doesn’t really have them. His only attempted punches in the aftermath are generalist accusations of ‘hate speech’:

    “We can’t normalize hate speech…It’s a philo-Semitic campus, where people appreciate Jewish culture and Judaism.”

    Yes, but didn’t Spencer just say how he appreciated and respected Judaism, in his own way?

    The Forward tells us that Rosenberg “said he found Spencer’s attempt to get him to defend Israel erroneous and bordering on anti-Semitic”. Erroneous? Wasn’t Spencer allowed to ask these rhetorical questions and pose these views to Rosenberg? Rosenberg’s attempt at ‘tarnishing’ Spencer with being ‘borderline anti-Semitic’ is perhaps the most pathetic of all. Who does Rosenberg think he’s talking about? Some Jewish Hillel student who went out of line? ‘Borderline anti-Semitic’ is by now a claim that doesn’t even add a scratch to people like Spencer. It would be totally realistic to call Spencer something more precise – borderline Nazi – and even that would be a conservative appraisal.

    The more Rabbi Rosenberg lashes out in retrospect against Spencer and the debate he sorely lost, the more he attracts attention to Spencer’s point. Yet he bemoans also this very aspect: “The undue amount of attention given to Richard Spencer and his message was and is troubling to me,” he said.

    Yes, Spencer made a point, posing how Rosenberg’s supposedly Jewish, pink, multicultural advocacy of ‘radical inclusion and love’ is incompatible with Israel and Zionism, and Rosenberg was silent because he didn’t want to fall into the trap of ‘defending Israel’, that is, Israel’s intrinsically exclusionist policies, but he didn’t want to attack it either. Rosenberg’s silence represents the prevailing paradigm of Jewish ambivalence about Zionism, where the ‘liberals’ simply seek to paint it over. One scratch under the surface and it isn’t very appealing anymore.

    Spencer masterfully put Rosenberg in a checkmate, whilst Rosenberg the amateur player was thinking that he would outplay him with liberal and humanistic bravura.

    This debate should focus us upon far more than the rhetorical aspect of the debate itself. It should alert us to how Zionism and white-supremacy in fact dovetail, and it should make us think about what Zionism may be doing to this world, beyond what is supposedly ‘good for the Jews’.

    As Zionism’s founder Herzl wrote in his diary, “the anti-Semites will become our most dependable friends, the anti-Semitic countries our allies” [see the Complete Diaries of Theodor Herzl. Vol. 1, page 84]. This prophecy may come to manifest in ways that will leave Jews speechless. Frank Roman

    Janos: Indeed Mr Roman, Herzl was a secular prophet. In this world of Liberals advocating for a Global State by any means, be it the Global Warming or Islam, who else will stand with Israel but fellow nationalists, in this case White Nationalists?

    And yes, many Jews are interested in other cultures and at home in different philosophies and countries. But they always have a home to go back to, both ethnically and now since 1948, geographically. And of course they have their power base in the Western World, particularly the Anglo-Sphere. How very strange and unfortunate that they don’t want us to have a home as well. They best rethink that.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 13, 2016 at 4:18 am #

      Does this not parallel what I did to the hapless Thwack above?

      • thwack December 13, 2016 at 8:42 am #

        Janos keeps talking to me like Im a MEMBER of a race.

        Black people don’t have a race; thats why we’re in the position we’re in today?

        Janos’ greatest fear is that he will end up like us; a grab bag of raceless people with no real identity other than the one the race members give us.

        I guess that could be frightening to a racist?

        • Janos Skorenzy December 13, 2016 at 3:34 pm #

          Thwack, thank you. You are very aware in many ways and I am so glad you are here. These people don’t know any Blacks outside of work, and the ones they do know at work are very selected and/or on their best behavior. Thus you are well situated to be their teacher. I of course, grew up around Blacks, worked and went to school with them and thus know them. I once lived with a Black, a good one who hated his people.

          I was once on a crowded bus full of ‘lacks, the only White. And exactly this argument break out: the guy next to me was a full on Black Nationalist trying to raise consciousness. The driver was a light skin who said bitterly (and truthfully), We aint nothing.

          Yes, Thwack that is my fear. And why is that illegitmate? Are you implying that it is? Perhaps in an attempt to hide from yourself that your greatest desire if for us to end up the same way? Misery loves company, right? And the average Black is a master of bitterness and resentment. Is some of it justified? Of course. But do you expect us to commit suicide to make you feel better? Or allow ourselves to be murdered one by one or genocided en masse?

          • thwack December 15, 2016 at 7:16 pm #

            “These people don’t know any Blacks outside of work, and the ones they do know at work are very selected and/or on their best behavior”. –Janos Skorenzy


            Oh, and you do?


            are you in jail or something?

      • malthuss December 13, 2016 at 4:59 pm #

        Write a book, ‘Confessions of a neon Nazi.’

        [neon, not neo].

    • Launcher December 13, 2016 at 7:24 am #

      Thank you Janos, you are the only reason I still read this site, you keep it honest.

      • capt spaulding December 13, 2016 at 2:28 pm #

        What a great idea. Janos you should consider starting your own site.

        • thwack December 13, 2016 at 6:40 pm #


          maybe you can take over Dylann Roof’s blog?

          • Janos Skorenzy December 13, 2016 at 8:54 pm #

            Why? Remember, if Blacks don’t exist, those women had no relation to you. Your words, bro, not mine. You shifted from your original position. How casually and accurately did I name you!

      • Janos Skorenzy December 13, 2016 at 8:50 pm #


  52. tucsonspur December 13, 2016 at 3:25 am #

    Here we go again. The Cherokee Nation now says the tribe must recognize gay marriage within its ranks.

    Something from back in the day:


    • jim e December 13, 2016 at 5:48 am #

      Have not they always?

      • jim e December 13, 2016 at 5:59 am #

        From Alabama… in CREEK land…
        30And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters. 31And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father is old, and there is not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth: 32Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. 33And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. 34And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. 35And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. 36Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child…

        • Dumbedup December 14, 2016 at 11:01 am #

          21 “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”

          25 The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) “is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”

          26 Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.”

  53. FincaInTheMountains December 13, 2016 at 4:15 am #

    A messenger from Aleppo

    The assault is over, cleanup begins.


    While Russians were busy taking a very strategic enclave of jihadists in Aleppo, 5000 militants have retaken Palmyra for a second time – a painful pinprick to Russian operation in Syria.

    According to Russian Ministry of Defense, the jihadists were suddenly relocated to Palmyra from American-led coalition zones of responsibility – Mosul and Raqqa, apparently with the blessing of “Allied” command.

    With the “Allies” like this, who needs enemies?


    • thwack December 13, 2016 at 8:47 am #

      wtf is a “militant?”


      what is the opposite of a “militant?”

      • FincaInTheMountains December 13, 2016 at 9:11 am #

        Here is your typical Syrian “moderate” militant:


        Use your imagination to derive an opposite.

      • FincaInTheMountains December 13, 2016 at 9:17 am #

        Hillary managed to smear in blood the entire American nation. Now you don’t have a choice, but to put her on trial, or you all are responsible.

  54. jim e December 13, 2016 at 6:01 am #

    P S… Civilized Tribes

  55. barbisbest December 13, 2016 at 10:21 am #

    Santa, please bring me orange dayglo face cream so I can be in style and Rosetta Stone- learning Russian. Sorry, wrong address.

  56. fodase December 13, 2016 at 10:45 am #

    which is building twin towers in Turkey bearing the Trump name for which the Trump family stands to make millions of dollars.

    Nice to see you hate making money too, everything Trump does is wrong and evil, we get it.

    good little lefty, sucking the host dry while denigrating everything it provides you in the way of comforts and freedoms

    you must be really s-c-a-r-e-d of the Trumpster, too, he’s like a nazi and everything

    Trump employs 34,000 people, viz CNN:

    A CNNMoney analysis calculates at least 34,000 jobs attributable to the Donald.

    …and that’s cnn for god’s sake

    Yep, evil guy wants to make millions of dollars from some towers, he’s all for himself you know.

    And he makes his products overseas!

    • thwack December 13, 2016 at 2:39 pm #

      I just thought of something?

      Aren’t all these Trump towers around the world gonna turn into juicy targets for terrorists come January 20th?

      Does he put his name on all his buildings?

      • malthuss December 13, 2016 at 5:00 pm #

        You sound as if you WANT more bombings of innocent people, who happen to be in the wrong place.

        • thwack December 13, 2016 at 6:37 pm #

          You sound like an ostrich with your head in the sand.



          you criticized my observation without offering a SOLUTION of your own?

          Which means you don’t have one.

          Which means you just wanna attack a black person.

          Which means you are a suspected racist.

          Which means you are like Hitler.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 13, 2016 at 8:57 pm #

            If Blacks aren’t a real group, why do you identify with them? Or they are but it doesn’t matter, why did you identify yourself as one of them on this blog?

            Like all tricksters, you are continuously shifting your position to the more advantageous one. Do you have any real positions? Or perhaps you yourself don’t know either, you position always being an ad hoc one dependent on the situation and the person axing.

  57. janet December 13, 2016 at 10:47 am #

    “And by the way, who says extraditing him isn’t the right thing to do?” –Q

    He is an American citizen who has lived in Pennsylvania for 42 years. I think the Constitution says foreign powers are not allowed to seize American citizens. I may be wrong.

    • Cold N. Holefield December 13, 2016 at 10:57 am #

      There’s the Constitution and there’s the Trumpstitution. The latter says it’s alright to extradite American Citizens so Foreign Potentates can torture & murder them at will — a form of Rendition, if you will.

      So long as the Stock Market is agog about Trump with one record close after another, Q. Shtik is 100% behind him, Orange DayGlo be damned!!!

      In fact, in honor of our Great Leader, Orange Julius, I think all remaining cash, while there is still cash before Trump legislates all money as electronic, should be colored orange instead of green and emblazoned with images of the various Trump Family Members on the various denominations.

    • SteveO December 13, 2016 at 1:39 pm #

      What is constitutional is whatever the supreme says is constitutional. Once Trump gets his new “orientalist”, Scalia clone on the supreme court, I’m confident that this extra judicial extradition will perfectly legal.

  58. barbisbest December 13, 2016 at 10:50 am #

    It is fitting Cold N Holefield. We learned too that Ivanka cares about the climate. That’s specshial right there. Heil trump. Not the four- letter word I’d use. Is this Santa’s address. Cold N Holefield, please, directions. North, I think, right? Pardon me.

    • Cold N. Holefield December 13, 2016 at 11:02 am #

      Don’t forget, Ivanka is great on women’s health matters and child care. Trump said last night that she’s the best when it comes to those issues. I believe him, don’t you? She has to run it by Uncle Mike Pence first though, and Uncle Mike believes a woman’s womb belongs to Men — that Men are kind enough and compassionate enough to let women rent the womb and hold it for Men their entire life, but Men own it and what goes into it and what comes out, including the blood. Uncle Mike doesn’t like it when Ivanka bleeds once a month. He believes she should go find a cave, not Osama’s mind you, somewhere and keep herself there until her bleeding has subsided and she is clean again.

      • Q. Shtik December 13, 2016 at 12:30 pm #

        For God’s sake, use a mikveh.

        • Cold N. Holefield December 13, 2016 at 1:21 pm #

          Only if the mikveh are Made In America by respectful polite robots who don’t bleed and who aren’t unclean and who talk back and question their orders and who don’t slip and fall and who aren’t late or ever sick and who say “yes, sir” and “no, sir” and “yes, ma’am” and “no, ma’am” and “special orders don’t upset us, all we ask is that you lettuce.”

        • malthuss December 13, 2016 at 5:08 pm #

          Is this correct, —–

          anti-Semitic”. ? or anti-Semitic.”?

      • capt spaulding December 13, 2016 at 2:32 pm #

        This is one issue where I agree with Trump. I’d fuck Ivanka too.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 13, 2016 at 3:38 pm #

        Yes Cold, women are nothing without men. Glad you are saying the simple truth, even in jest. And yes, we need them too. We are the head and they are womb. We are one species. Get it? One species. Feminism doesn’t accept this. That’s why they are the enemy.

  59. FincaInTheMountains December 13, 2016 at 10:53 am #

    I can be in style learning Russian – barbisbest

    You could start by learning the most important Russian word – spravedlivost, which often being translated as justice, fairness, righteousness.

    In fact it means the unshakable supreme law of the Universe, saying that Life is knowledge of the reflection of the Laws of the Holy Spirit on the formation of the material world.

    And acting in strict compliance with these laws.

    As you can see, this principle does not have anything to do with later Christian religious principle of total lenience “turn the other cheek.”

    On the contrary, there is much more ancient and the equilibrium principle of adequate interaction with the world. How you relate to it, so does it relates to you. What are you bring to the world, it will bring back to you. The more you isolate yourself from the world, the harder will be the world’s response to you.

    For the world is united and intact. It includes everything and everyone, including all of us. And only our own mind that has a free will, capable of such opposition to the world.

    Followed by an adequate response.

  60. barbisbest December 13, 2016 at 11:02 am #

    Yes Fincaln all is as it is and WILL be what it is to be. W t f.

  61. barbisbest December 13, 2016 at 11:07 am #

    There ain’t no word for coincidence in Hebrew either Fincal n. Peace on earth. Good Will to humankind.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 13, 2016 at 3:43 pm #

      No, the real translation is “Peace on Earth to Men of Good Will.” And to the rest? No quarter.

      Each generation was raised wrong. Thus each was worse than the one before, it being a process that accelerates as it feeds on itself. Compound interest if you will. That’s the only excuse you have for being like you are.

      And what is the original error or Principle? Egalitarianism, leading to policies of “equality”, as if men and women are the same or Blacks and Whites, or Americans and foreigners. All must be treated the same and the equal treatment of unequal people is Tyranny.

      • K-Dog December 13, 2016 at 7:03 pm #

        And you work for a living doing exactly what? Oh that’s right you won’t say. So, you should be treated with respect and dignity why?

        There being no need for egalitarian principles and as you contribute nothing perhaps the logical conclusion is that you should be ignored completely.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 13, 2016 at 9:01 pm #

          In other words, I made a valid point and you have no come back except insults. I said nothing about being cruel to people. I simply said the equal treatment of unequal people is Tyranny. Kurt Vonnegut, one of the last sane Liberals, said much the same thing.

          • K-Dog December 13, 2016 at 10:45 pm #

            You have no point. You demand equity without giving others the same consideration. That is my point which you claim not to understand. You can pretend to be insulted so you don’t have to pony up what you do which justifies your inclusion into the egalitarian circle of men if you wish. I really don’t care. My point and your claim that I have none is here for the reader to judge. As is the fact that nothing I wrote insults you.

            Your comeback is to simply state what you do which justifies a ticket to equity but you were unable to do that. Too bad. Because of your notions of white supremacy you can’t see the obvious. The brain dead simple answer to my question is beyond your grasp. Perhaps this statement seems insulting but it is really only a statement to that fact that the way you think limits your ability to understand.

            If I ever do insult you there will be none here who will doubt that I have.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 14, 2016 at 12:50 am #

            I don’t talk about White Supremacy, never have and never will. Don’t believe in it. You are arguing with a cartoon in your hide bound mind.

            I argue for White Rights. Try and see the difference. It’s not rocket science, but you do have some house (brain) cleaning to do.

          • K-Dog December 14, 2016 at 12:00 pm #

            Now you are a lying sack of shit. You are always going on about black inferiority and how whites need to have more pride in their race. That is the same thing, and whites already have rights in case you really are that ignorant.

            But lie all you wish. I have better things to do than lift up your brainpan and take a peek inside. It would not be a pretty sight, I’ll pass.

            Yes you are dishonest enough and smart enough not to use the phrase ‘white supremacist’ directly but that is what the ‘Janos’ character is. It is the way the Janos character disrupts the flow of discussion and has since Janos rep[laced Vlad. I’ll agree that in real life you might even be black yourself but this is not real life for you are anonymous.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 14, 2016 at 3:34 pm #

            Well duh, there obviously is no “equality” in the manifest universe. Are Whites equal to Blacks in running? Are they equal to us in science? Shall we put weights on their legs to slow them down so more White can win? Affirmative Action in sports?

            So? So we are “equal” (it’s a valuable abstraction in math, law, and metaphysics) in that we each value our own race the most. You and your kind are the weirdos who don’t. Do you feel guilty if you are first in line for a premier? Of course not, not unless you cheated or bullied your way there. It’s like that. Whites should be first in their own lands just as Black should be and are in theirs. Think there’s Chinese Supremacism in China? Ever hear what happens to Whites who throw their weight around in Thailand? As it should be.

            Now, if you have a scrap of shame, you should feel your cheeks reddening. You never were able to think it through like this. You LOVE the indignity of no one being first, of an all powerful State imposing the farce of equality on people, and humiliating your own people by putting less qualified people ahead of them in line.

            And you “think” that you love the natural, but in fact, you exclude man completely from the natural order in favor of the horrible culture and top down tyranny of Political Correctness. Why? Because it’s your religion, one of hatred for the Natural and for your own people. Thus you are unlovely in the extreme and commit a sin difficult to forgive.

          • K-Dog December 14, 2016 at 9:05 pm #

            You assume a lot about me which you can’t possibly know. You don’t have a clue about what I think or believe and your world view makes you incapable of understanding someone like me.

            You don’t feel good about yourself or you would be concerning yourself with things that matter instead of worrying that someone else might be getting something in life you can’t get or have. To think all you are is a skin color or a ‘race’ shows you have no regard for yourself. You posture yourself as a hater of people different from yourself but the truth is you hate yourself far more than the blacks, Jooos and others you are always ranting about in here.

            You wallow in jealousy and inflict your mental aberrations on the rest of us because you feel cheated in life. That is why you are a one trick pony snorting out the same tune over and over again like an old broken record.

          • thwack December 15, 2016 at 8:45 am #

            You wallow in jealousy and inflict your mental aberrations on the rest of us because you feel cheated in life.


            its called paranoid narcissism.

      • Dumbedup December 14, 2016 at 11:37 am #

        No one says that all people are the same. What decent people say is that under the law of God and under the principles of freedom and democracy, all people should be treated equally, fairly and honestly and without bias and prejudice. Christianity teaches that we are all God’s children and he has no favorites. The law of the United States protects minorities, the weak, the disabled and the elderly.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 14, 2016 at 3:38 pm #

          Yeah that’s exactly what they are saying, while at the same time believing that Whites are uniquely evil and need to be slowly destroyed. And the most alien peoples of all are brought in by the boat and plane load and put above us.

          Traditional Christianity had God breaking up the Universal Order and confusing their tongues in favor of separate nations. Modern Christianity reverses this and dooms the White Race.

  62. messianicdruid December 13, 2016 at 11:25 am #

    “Gasoline may remain cheap, but the little people won’t be able to buy the cars to run it in.”

    Sure they can, financed for 84 or 96 months, my.niece just did it. Now they will not need to spend a hundred a week and several hours fixing their junker old car.

  63. fodase December 13, 2016 at 11:35 am #

    the little people are going to be able to find jobs now, most likely

    …after all those jobs that the jug eared nitwit “created or saved” over the last 8 years

  64. janet December 13, 2016 at 11:43 am #

    “the little people are going to be able to find jobs now, most likely” –fodase

    Good paying jobs with union representation to guarantee the workers have rights to humane treatment, medical benefits, pensions, and a vote on how the business is run, so as to not destroy the environment or harm human beings?

    • Dumbedup December 14, 2016 at 11:42 am #

      I doubt fodase will agree, but I would answer that question with an unequivocal yes. Corporations have shown that if unrestrained they will destroy their workers and the environment in pursuit of profit.

  65. barbisbest December 13, 2016 at 11:44 am #

    Fodase, my president leaves office with the highest approval rating in recent history. Can’t argue with success.

    • pequiste December 13, 2016 at 12:30 pm #

      Sorry Barb,

      Barry O. will leave his presidency with the following legacy:

      – Islamic State (those silly J.V. guys) multiple catastrophes in Syria, Iraq and branch offices worldwide viz. Europe, Phillipines, Egypt, Sahel, etc.

      – Foreign affairs disasters from Ukraine and Crimea to Lybia and Afghanistan (still there after 15 years boys and girls.)

      – A marvelous $20 TRILLION national debt.

      – Trade deficit averaging $500 BILLION per annum.

      – ObamaCare: “If you like your doctor, you can keep him/her.” Uh huh.

      – How many people on Food Stamps (SNAP:) nearly 50 million!

      – Race relations in the U.S.A. at a 50 year low. Police killings routine.
      Chicago, an actual Democrat love-fest with 468 murders last year and 2900 shootings. Nice.

      Too many other “accomplishments” to mention, but you get my drift.

      Approval ratings are just like the political polls in this country – eyewash, hogwash and bullshit provided by propaganda organs of the State, and other controlling parties (those evil fuckers in charge.)

      Barack “Barry Soetoro” Hussein Obama has been an unmitigated failure, but you may believe what you like and go back to watch some Ellen, or NFL football, or the Food Network, or whatever nonsense takes your mind off of concrete actuality.

      Have a nice day otherwise.

    • malthuss December 13, 2016 at 5:28 pm #

      ‘Approval’ and ‘success’ are two different things.
      Like reputation and character are two very different things.

      ‘Can’t argue with success’—-yes I can . Perhaps you are too stupid too.

  66. Billy Hill December 13, 2016 at 11:53 am #

    Our host writs: “Reagan had room for plenty of government finance monkey business. Trump has no room. Bush One, Clinton, Bush Two and Obama dug the deadfall debt trap for poor Donald…”

    Poor Donald indeed. Poverty may be here in spades – just not widely distributed yet.

    Interesting thermodynamic point of view expressed recently by SRSrocco who notes that from Reagan (1980) to the present the debt, the dow, S&P, and retirement assets expanded by roughly the same ratio: approx.. 21-24 times. (Debt $800B to almost $20T; Dow 800 to 19,500). Debt has been used used to offset a long term decline in net energy available. (In 1930 it took the energy of one barrel to produce 100 barrels of oil – hence 99 profitable barrels to apply to economic activity; shale ratio is one barrel to produce 5).

    Debt = energy IOU. (energy input produces economic activity which grows GDP). If we don’t have the energy all these IOUs implode. Hence he predicts deflation of most assets – stocks bonds and real estate. Within the present oil glut it is not easy to sign on 100% with his argument, but…

    Compare the St Louis Fed Velocity of Money chart. From a relatively restricted range from 1959 through 1991 it shows an unusual steep rate of rise peaking in Q3 1997 and essentially falling ever since.

    I have opined before that the only technologically-feasible solution to the energy conundrum is very large nuclear (in my previous persona as Florida Power, now defunct owing to computer malware issue). Whether the window of opportunity to construct the all-electric transportation grid has closed is a function of political will in a fractured polity akin to the 1860’s Fourth Turning. The venom on both sides of the electoral divide shows no signs of abating. Could be we are in for a big surprise – as shocking as what the Washingtonians observed at First Manassas after they had gone to the trouble of hitching up the horses and carriages, preparing picnic lunches, and setting up comfortable seating to watch the boys play war.

  67. FincaInTheMountains December 13, 2016 at 12:36 pm #

    Latest appointments in the North American theater of Military Operations

    New York Times reports that Trump chose Rex Tillerson as his Secretary of State. Trump appointee sheet says that US President-elect understands that the fight against Clintonoids will be long and hard and occur all over the world. As enemies they are hardened and entirely without any stops of human or moral nature, so if this fight is lost, God save our souls.

    Meanwhile, today is the last day of the appointments of State Electors to US Electoral College, and all the contentious issues in the states should be now settled permanently, including a “supported” by Hillary question about the right of electors to receive a “briefing” by the CIA about Putin’s influence on elections and Trump supported the issue of “counter-briefing” by other US intelligence agencies, considering the position of the CIA biased.

    But the most important thing is the “briefing” by the same agencies that electors could certainly vote contrary to State popular vote (where the law allows), but the State has the right to investigate such elector on purity of his/her intentions in making such a decision, in particular lack of material interest and outside pressure.

  68. pequiste December 13, 2016 at 12:38 pm #

    And just when you thought The Donald was going to at least make some headway in the cesspool management arena; there he was, the President-elect, this morning on the Idiotbox in a very public meeting/photo op, at Trump Tower Manhattan, with none other than Kanye “The Khardasian Sow’s consort” West.

    I was going to projectile vomit but hadn’t had breakfast. Dry heaves only.

    • Frankiti December 13, 2016 at 5:10 pm #

      He can’t help himself. He is particularly vulnerable to the capriciousness of celebrity clique.

      He needs them. He likes them.

  69. barbisbest December 13, 2016 at 12:39 pm #

    Speakin of whack job news outlet s… July 2, 2002.. Cover of Time magaxine, the Bible and the Apocolypse. This week, person of the Year. Makes sense.

    • Frankiti December 13, 2016 at 5:06 pm #

      There is no such thing as “news”. Time magazine is a vehicle for advertisers. They sell advertisements, not news. That keeps the subscription prices at a nominal rate. The subscribers are targets, targets for the advertisers. Guaranteed targets. Every advertisement seller needs new/more targets. Sensation sells. Frivolity sells. It especially sells in a world marked with more and deeper access to dark information (formerly known as news).

      Time as always peddled light fare to the common man. It’s their bread and butter.

  70. FincaInTheMountains December 13, 2016 at 4:08 pm #

    Against the background of the completion of the battle for Aleppo in its military dimension, the information battle is still in full swing and the West can not come to terms with a defeat of its surrogate infantry, openly supporting terrorist organizations in an effort to present the case so that Syria, Russia and Iran have won not because they broke militant defenses, repelled all counter-attacks and cleared the city in heavy fighting, but because they bombed hospitals and killed children.

    In this respect, it is very interesting to compare the information coming from pro-Assad and anti-Assad Syrian news sources. pro-Assad mainly engaged in coverage of war hostilities and solving humanitarian problems, and those who supported the insurgents, the worse things become at the front, the less write about the fighting and more about the children, hospitals and humanitarian catastrophe.

    As if this is not rampant terrorist groups in Syria who led to the catastrophe itself.

  71. BackRowHeckler December 13, 2016 at 4:33 pm #

    Those huge ExxonMobil losses over the past few years that Jim mentions … I don’t think that’s common knowledge amongst the sportsfans, F250 drivers and beerdrinkers out here. General consensus is ‘BigOil’ is making money hand over fist, and they’re doing it on our backs. Wouldn’t it shock everybody if one of these Big 8 oil giants suddenly went belly up?


    • malthuss December 13, 2016 at 5:05 pm #

      When, when? Collapse is not here, now.
      Party and motor ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Cold N. Holefield December 13, 2016 at 5:12 pm #

      Great point. Tillerson, like Trump, is adept at running businesses into the ground and bankrupting them and yet the both of them are still fabulously wealthy even though they are terrible businessmen who fail businesses. Not to worry, though, Tillerson has a nice little Nest Egg comprised of Exxon Mobil Stock valued at ~ $218 million and a generous pension valued at ~ $69.5 million. Not to mention, but I will, amidst Exxon Mobil’s slide towards bankruptcy, Tillerson made $27.3 million last year and that was after a pay cut.

      Considering Tillerson’s track record as a failed businessman and Trump’s, I think they’re perfect for America at this point in time since so many for so many years have been clamoring that America’s going to go bankrupt. Tillerson & Trump are just the “Men” to finally put a fork in it.

      How do you like it now, gentlemen?

      • malthuss December 14, 2016 at 12:06 am #


  72. malthuss December 13, 2016 at 5:26 pm #

    Police killed in Macon by angry Black with 30+ page criminal record. He even was convicted of kidnapping.


    • elysianfield December 13, 2016 at 6:17 pm #

      Are you aware that a single page of a “rap sheet”,a criminal record, can have 7 to 12 incidents listed?

      • malthuss December 14, 2016 at 12:05 am #

        I once bought a former neighbors information from an online site.

        I found it hard to understand. Seems like the arrest, booking, sentence were all listed separately.

        So 33 arrests went for 100+ pages.

        • thwack December 14, 2016 at 3:35 pm #

          Also keep in mind that convictions are often plea bargained down from charges that are much worse.

          In addition, a thugs rap sheet only include the times he was caught.

    • thwack December 13, 2016 at 6:17 pm #

      What color was the police?

      • Janos Skorenzy December 14, 2016 at 3:51 am #

        Race doesn’t exist. You said so yourself. Are you shifting from that? If not, you don’t have the right to ax cuz it don’t matter. Oh, you say it matters to us and that makes it real? So we have to be destroyed becuz we raciss – but you still aint?

    • Dumbedup December 14, 2016 at 11:55 am #

      I for one am glad this is being brought to our awareness. A policeman (or woman) being shot is a tragedy as is an elderly and unarmed white man with dementia being shot by the police.

  73. messianicdruid December 13, 2016 at 7:23 pm #

    thwack axed,

    “What percentage of the planets population do YOU think should be composed of white people?”

    10% anybody for ten per cent? I guess [ he, them, it ] also get ten per cent of resouces, right? Water, land, gold, precious minerals, etc…

    • thwack December 14, 2016 at 12:38 pm #

      How did you come up with that number?

      In other nooz, Professor Andrew Fraser says the white classification should be abandoned in favor of more ethnically determined identity.

      He says “white” is not a real or true identity because all it means is “not black”; which is too vague and obtuse to be useful.


      • Janos Skorenzy December 14, 2016 at 8:05 pm #

        Called it. Thwack didn’t want to have a real conversation, number or no. Whites don’t exist and therefore deserve nothing in his book. And Blacks? They deserve everything cuz race doesn’t exists and we’re all Africans, and Blacks are more African than anyone else.

        It’s not that the other so called races need to be genocided per se. They just have to open their borders to Black Africans who have seven children per woman. And their men must be forbidden to defend their women against Black rape monkeys. Properly emasculated, many White Women will eagerly choose Blacks over their own men. They they’ll wonder where Civilization went.

  74. nsa December 13, 2016 at 8:32 pm #

    With respect to the previous discussion of menstruation: for a short time lived with two females…..double the fun, in theory. In practice, their periods quickly synchronized and it was awful….some kind of square law where two of them are four times as annoying. Ended up “working late” at least one week a month. Finally got tired of the arrangement, but then couldn’t get them out of my house. The vixens just flat out refused to leave. Cops were sympathetic but refused to do anything, so had to offer them considearable cash to just get their stuff and get out. While passing through Colorado City, AZ, a town on the Utah border run by the FLDS bigamists, asked one of the friendly town cops how he handled the problem. He reported the secret is to keep them and their broods all separate…..that way he could stay away from the gals suffering their monthlies. He reported a bigger problem is the expense of multiple households on a town cop’s salary (imagine each one with say a $25k platinum card). Am sure the angel Moroni is looking down favorably on this saintly gentleman’s labors in behalf of advancing the FLDS church.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 13, 2016 at 9:04 pm #

      A woman can take your house if she has so much as a toothbrush left behind.

      • Q. Shtik December 13, 2016 at 11:02 pm #

        You speak as if from cruel personal experience.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 14, 2016 at 12:47 am #

          No, that’s just what Avatar wanted you to think. Vishnu preserve us! – things are bad but not quite that bad.

          • SteveO December 14, 2016 at 9:19 am #

            Unless you are in the Sovereign Socialist Republic of Massachusetts.

      • janet December 14, 2016 at 1:17 am #

        The woman should get the house and usually does only because she usually wants it and the man doesn’t.

        Or the woman is awarded the kids and she doesn’t have a place to live, so she gets the house.

        Judges always rule in favor of what is best for the children, as it should be.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 14, 2016 at 3:48 am #

          Yes, men like living (and dying) out on the street. Especially when it was his house and in his family for generations.

        • SteveO December 14, 2016 at 9:21 am #

          The assumption that the woman is always the best parent is one of the lingering prejudices in our society.

          • thwack December 14, 2016 at 6:26 pm #

            The assumption that the woman is always the best parent is one of the lingering prejudices in our society.


            Yes indeed.

            Most of the black savages terrorizing civil society were raised by single black women.

            Remember that show “Good Times?”

            Without the father (James Evens) , “JJ” would have been an armed robber, “Thelma” would have been selling pussy, and “Michael” would have been a drug dealer.

            God bless “Florida”; but black woman just ain’t up to the task of raising children by themselves.

            Don’t forget, the only reason Trayvon Martin was in George Zimmermans neighborhood was because his mom kicked him out of her house because he wouldn’t act right.

            By the time she sent him to live with his dad it was too late; he had already become feral.

            Fathers teach accountability.

            This is why so many black males challenge the police; they lack experience with “authority figures” because there was no father in the house to act as one; just an endless parade of questionable males coming over to fuck their mom and then make an excuse to leave.

  75. Elrond Hubbard December 13, 2016 at 11:22 pm #

    Shockingly on-topic: Streetcars return to Detroit.


    You heard it here first.

  76. messianicdruid December 14, 2016 at 10:06 am #

    More from http://www.washingtoncom.post :

    “In a secure meeting room under the Capitol last week, lawmakers held in their hands a classified letter written by colleagues in the Senate summing up a secret, new CIA assessment of Russia’s role in the 2016 presidential election….

    For the Democrats in the room, the FBI’s response was frustrating — even shocking….

    The FBI official’s remarks to the lawmakers on the House Intelligence Committee were, in comparison, “fuzzy” and “ambiguous,” suggesting to those in the room that the bureau and the agency weren’t on the same page, the official said….

    The competing messages, according to officials in attendance, also reflect cultural differences between the FBI and the CIA. The bureau, true to its law enforcement roots, wants facts and tangible evidence to prove something beyond all reasonable doubt. The CIA is more comfortable drawing inferences from behavior.

    “The FBI briefers think in terms of criminal standards — can we prove this in court,” one of the officials said. “The CIA briefers weigh the preponderance of intelligence and then make judgment calls to help policymakers make informed decisions. High confidence for them means ‘we’re pretty damn sure.’ It doesn’t mean they can prove it in court.”

    The FBI is not sold on the idea that Russia had a particular aim in its meddling. “There’s no question that [the Russians’] efforts went one way, but it’s not clear that they have a specific goal or mix of related goals,” said one U.S. official.

    The murky nature of the assessments is maddening many lawmakers who are demanding answers about the Kremlin’s role in the presidential race. ”

    In other words, the CIA, which claims to be sure that Russia hacked the elections, has no real proof of these allegations, at least not enough to satisfy the FBI’s standard of truth. “The CIA is more comfortable drawing inferences from behavior,” the report says. In other words, the CIA itself is far from “sure.” They have no hard proof and are merely drawing “inferences.”

    This is “maddening” and “frustrating” to the Democratic senators, who are trying hard to derail the Trump election.


    • thwack December 14, 2016 at 10:52 am #

      In other words, the CIA itself is far from “sure.” They have no hard proof and are merely drawing “inferences.”



      I would settle for some evidence; but they don’t even have any of that.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 14, 2016 at 3:24 pm #

        A lifetime of hustling and barbershop conferences with Black Conspiracy Theorists has left you wise in the ways of bullshit when you hear it. Other people’s bullshit – you don’t know your own at all.

        I’ll offer you a cabinet position, Ambassador to the Blacks, in my future administration.

        • Q. Shtik December 14, 2016 at 3:51 pm #

          One of your funnier posts in quite a while, Janos.

  77. FincaInTheMountains December 14, 2016 at 10:31 am #

    Chinese answer to Trump


    • Q. Shtik December 14, 2016 at 11:44 am #


    • pequiste December 14, 2016 at 12:22 pm #

      The Chinese answer to Trump more likely will be “Fuck you Roundeye.”

  78. janet December 14, 2016 at 12:02 pm #

    “The FBI is not sold on the idea that Russia had a particular aim in its meddling.”

    Nah. Russia has no aims. /s

    FBI WTF!

    • messianicdruid December 14, 2016 at 12:16 pm #

      ” Russia has no aims. ”

      Do you have any inferences to draw?

      Would “avoiding WW3” be an inference?

  79. fodase December 14, 2016 at 2:54 pm #

    So, 50,000 jobs from Japan, 1,000 from Carrier, Apple and Ford remaining with their plants in the US….

    … and now http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/12/14/ibm-announces-25000-u-s-jobs-before-trumps-meeting-with-tech-giants/

    25,000 new jobs from IBM in the US.

    …and “he hasn’t even been sworn in yet”.

    You see what’s possible when you put American interests ahead of global interests.

    What a ghastly waste the outgoing president was.

    Full speed ahead, men, we have seen the enemy and he is ours.

    America, baby!

    • malthuss December 14, 2016 at 6:03 pm #


      A 1990s book predicted this mess. It is, ‘The End of Work.’

  80. fodase December 14, 2016 at 3:00 pm #

    Tillerson, like Trump, is adept at running businesses into the ground and bankrupting them and yet the both of them are still fabulously wealthy even though they are terrible businessmen who fail businesses


    Yeah homey, tell it like it is, they only employ what, 500,000 people?

    Gotta laugh at you losers, last I checked Trump was making lots of money, as was Esso.

    what, Trump only has about 500 business too, LOL.

    don’t get too jealous friend, “it best to be on the bright side of life

    gets yossef a job and makes you dat money ‘n you ken be a big business man too!”

    • Janos Skorenzy December 14, 2016 at 3:18 pm #

      With Herr Tillerson at the tiller and Herr Trump at the Bow, the Ship of State is well equipped to slip the Icebergs of political correctness and nuclear war with Russia.

      If Tillerson was friends with France or Israel or Saudi Arabia, it would be fine and more than fine. But a Superpower we’ve been feuding with, that’s horrible! As Pat Buchanan said, the Neo Cons glibly and gleefully threw away decades of negotiation with Russia. They used to love it – back when they controlled it and it was Communist and they were commies too. But now that White Christians are back in control, they hate it and plot its destruction.

  81. Janos Skorenzy December 14, 2016 at 3:56 pm #


    Kdog is pleased and wags his tail. There is no male and female, they are just social constructs. Elrond chortles with glee. Ozone shakes his head, torn between pleasure and disgust, utterly confused and torn between his political affiliations and his Yankee Commonsense. Dumb tries to be helpful and quotes St Paul, In Christ there is neither male nor female, Jew or Gentile, slave or free.

    WE’RE ALL ONE. Exceptions? NONE. We’re just play dough in the hands of Governmental Gods and Godlike Agencies. If they want to pass a law forbidding Whites marrying Whites, who are we to argue? It’s amazing they still let men marry women. Or that men still want to. Perhaps they’ll pass a law mandating men marry, but only non-Whites. Kdog would give his canine teeth to be on committees like that.

    • thwack December 15, 2016 at 8:23 am #

      If they want to pass a law forbidding Whites marrying Whites, who are we to argue?


      I think they did something like that in some South American country to get rid of their blacks; and it worked.

  82. fodase December 14, 2016 at 4:06 pm #

    no, the transgender phreaks have lost, they were never the majority, just the banshee shrieking minority.

    they’re good at yelling and having idiot fits, but just serve to try adults’ patience

    Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah, Happy Kwanzaa if that’s yo’ thang

    this one’s really nice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2P_RJJYjzY

    • Janos Skorenzy December 14, 2016 at 4:37 pm #

      Cool. Kind of like Alvin and the Chipmunks after Alvin smoked pot and you the listener dropped acid. In that state, there is no difference between Christ and Cthulu. You play with his tentacles believing they’re Ganesha’s trunk. And you get away with it – only because you don’t know what you’re doing. Hopefully the intoxication won’t wear off while you’re still in his presence.

      In modernity, man are vague about religion and exact about material science. In olden times, it was the opposite.

      But you are still an ally, even though you have made other choices just as Fred Reed has done. You are a Friend of the White Republic to come. How many can say as much?

      Maranatha! The King is coming!

  83. Q. Shtik December 14, 2016 at 4:56 pm #

    The Prez-Elect held a powwow today at Trump Tower with all the big Tech poohbahs. CNBC reported on it throughout the day. The graphic on the TV said “Trump holds Tech Roundtable” but the table was rectangular. What’s up wit dis?

    I googled up this roundtable definition: a number of persons gathered together for conference, discussion of some subject, etc., and often seated at a round table.

    So, the shape of a Roundtable table does not need to be round.

    In case this has been bothering you all day as it has me, I just thought you might want to know this.

    • thwack December 15, 2016 at 8:18 am #

      So, the shape of a Roundtable table does not need to be round.


      Orange is the new round

    • Frankiti December 15, 2016 at 5:42 pm #

      Your that guy that pops corn in advance of ‘A Way With Words’ on NPR, right?

      • Frankiti December 15, 2016 at 5:43 pm #

        you’re… of course

  84. malthuss December 14, 2016 at 6:04 pm #

    Yellen Raised the Rate

  85. janet December 14, 2016 at 6:08 pm #

    “Yellen Raised the Rate” –malthuss

    Yes, because Obama has left a strong economy, because the markets are strong, because unemployment is down, because manufacturing is up, because housing is strong, etc. Expect Yellen to continue raising the rate throughout 2017.

    • messianicdruid December 14, 2016 at 7:52 pm #

      Well, the retail was up .1 and they were expecting at least .2. Also inflation .4 and they were expecting half that.

      Luddy is as Luddy does.

  86. FincaInTheMountains December 14, 2016 at 6:09 pm #

    It’s been 25 years since the Belavezha Accords put an end to the Soviet Union

    Contrary to the popular opinion, President Boris Yeltsin did not destroy the USSR – it was already destroyed by the Spotted Judas Gorbachev and the betrayal of Soviet party and KGB elites, but he saved the Russian Federation which was destined to the same fate – disintegration.

    The Spotted Judas:

    Gorbachev was preparing a legislation that would have given the Russian Autonomous Republics the same rights as the 15 Union Republics, including the right to sovereignty and to secede from the Federation.

    In the ‘90s in all Russian ministries were American advisers, who handed out the Soviet property to their own people. Do you think that they follow the instructions of Yeltsin? That is the entire economic elite of Russia was created by Clinton and Yeltsin was like a figurehead. And this figurehead created a state in 10 years and found Putin, who could lead it, and without that state Putin would be out in 10 minutes.

    And Yeltsin for 10 years was playing the fool, and he recreated in secret the state which we all betrayed. And Belavezha agreement he needed to wrest power from Gorbachev, who in three days was going to equate to the autonomous republic of the Russian Federation to Union-Level Republic and break Russia up just as he destroyed the Soviet Union.

    And thanks to the Belavezha agreement RSFSR escaped from the power of Gorbachev in one piece. And respect to Boris Nikolayevich, who performed this miracle, is a litmus test, demonstrating the ability to close the hole in the mind, resisting propaganda of the Black Project that tries to pervert the Christianity, destroy the Institute of Presidency and transform Russia into its own bastion.


    • nsa December 14, 2016 at 8:09 pm #

      The KM (kosher media) and leftie filth hate Putin because he is a white hetero male willing to defend his race, the orthodox slavs. We would be very fortunate to find a similar leader here in north america…….

      • janet December 14, 2016 at 8:54 pm #

        Russia is a state with lots of diversity, with over 185 ethnic groups designated as nationalities. Besides being multicultural Russia is also home to many religions, the main ones being Orthodox Christianity, Islam, Catholicism, Protestantism, Judaism and Buddhism.

        • thwack December 15, 2016 at 11:20 am #


          and Putin has said on more than one occasion; “we have a Caucasian problem in this country.”

          Now, aren’t you glad you have negroes?

  87. Janos Skorenzy December 14, 2016 at 8:44 pm #

    Leftist Anarchist, Richard Preston, who has awakened beyond his cultural programming. This is what I wish for Kdog and Ozone, among others. They simply have to give up their hatred and intolerance and become better people.

    Many leftists have told me they are for secession by leftist movements only, although this would seem to defeat the purpose of secession, which is the peaceful co-existence of otherwise irreconcilable political factions. Leftist and liberals often react hysterically to the idea of white, conservative secession.

    It seems that many so-called progressives cannot bear the idea that with secession, some states would develop more conservative polices for themselves and others more liberal ones. Instead, they want strong central government to redistribute wealth and impose ostensibly progressive values on the entire society. In much of the leftist worldview, the entire range of non-leftist thought is implicitly regarded as a conspiracy to oppress blacks, persecute gays, and exterminate Jews. They counter this by a de facto jihad against “straight white cisgendered Christian male privilege.” Of course, many leftist goals could be more easily advanced if the Left did not have to share political spaces with the Right. Seceded blue states could become havens for social democratic economic policies, gay anti-discrimination laws, and transgender restrooms.

    If all the conservatives moved out, it would be much easier for progressives to build their utopia. Why don’t they encourage an exodus? It may be because the mere idea of a society that openly rejects their values is intolerable to them. Committed leftists often appear to thrive on righteous indignation. Conservatives would be delighted if progressives just disappeared; progressives regard their values as universally applicable and feel compelled to impose their values on every society everywhere. Progressives regard white separatism as an even more offensive variation of gated communities, both of which they see as upholding what they consider to be illegitimate race and class hierarchies.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 14, 2016 at 8:47 pm #

      Correction, the author’s name is Keith Preston. Here is the article:


      • malthuss December 15, 2016 at 2:41 am #

        Is ‘Exterminate Jews’ your middle names?

    • K-Dog December 14, 2016 at 11:08 pm #

      “Neither need you tell me,” said Candide, “that we must take care of our garden.”

      “You are in the right,” said Pangloss; “for when man was put into the garden of Eden, it was with an intent to dress it; and this proves that man was not born to be idle.”

      “Work then without disputing,” said Martin; “it is the only way to render life supportable.”

      The little society, one and all, entered into this laudable design and set themselves to exert their different talents. The little piece of ground yielded them a plentiful crop. Cunegund indeed was very ugly, but she became an excellent hand at pastrywork: Pacquette embroidered; the old woman had the care of the linen. There was none, down to Brother Giroflee, but did some service; he was a very good carpenter, and became an honest man. Pangloss used now and then to say to Candide:

      “There is a concatenation of all events in the best of possible worlds; for, in short, had you not been kicked out of a fine castle for the love of Miss Cunegund; had you not been put into the Inquisition; had you not traveled over America on foot; had you not run the Baron through the body; and had you not lost all your sheep, which you brought from the good country of El Dorado, you would not have been here to eat preserved citrons and pistachio nuts.”

      “Excellently observed,” answered Candide; “but let us cultivate our garden.”

      You need a garden Janos and you need to busy yourself with taking care of it.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 15, 2016 at 1:13 am #

        In other words, you admit to being a hater. We just want to get away from you crazies and your obsession with Blacks, Browns, Yellows, Trannies, Homos, etc – all of whom you seek to put over us.

        But you won’t let us go. Therefore Civil War is inevitable at some point. And it will be you alls fault.

  88. janet December 14, 2016 at 8:45 pm #

    “To you, Mr. Trump, I say this: When this next terrorist attack takes place, it is YOU who will be charged by the American people with a gross dereliction of duty. It was YOUR job to pay attention, to protect the country. But you were too busy tweeting and defending Putin and appointing cabinet members to dismantle the government. You didn’t have time for the daily national security briefing. Don’t think we’re going to let you use a modern-day burning of the Reichstag as your excuse to eliminate our civil liberties and our democracy. We will remember that while the plot to kill Americans was being hatched, your time was consumed by whom you saw as the real threat to America: Alec Baldwin in a wig.” –Michael Moore

    • thwack December 15, 2016 at 8:11 am #

      To you, Mr. Trump, I say this: When this next terrorist attack takes place, it is YOU who will be charged by the American people with a gross dereliction of duty.


      Is that what happened to Bush after 9-11?

      Did anybody lose their job after 9-11?

      I watched the 9-11 hearings and it was nothing but an excuse festival; with the most popular excuse being “I could have done my job better, but I DIDN’T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY.

      Next time you fukc up at work?

      Try that excuse.

    • messianicdruid December 15, 2016 at 3:57 pm #

      Hey janet, what if it happens before inauguration? Will you hold lame dork accountable?

      • Frankiti December 15, 2016 at 5:39 pm #

        Are you asking WPAsoka-CCCAbsalomJanet?

        • messianicdruid December 15, 2016 at 8:30 pm #

          The silence answered.

  89. volodya December 14, 2016 at 9:06 pm #

    Messianic Druid : “drawing inferences from behaviour”

    Yes, we’ve been down this road haven’t we. Um, who was it, oh yes Saddam whatsisname who was acting like he had nukes because he wanted the Iranians to think he had them. And so the CIA inferred that he DID have nukes. Why, otherwise was he acting so shifty?

    And we see how thar went.

    No matter, let’s for the sake of argument say that it was those dastardly Russians that hacked the DNC. Well, hurray for the Russians, they dumped a massive amount of information into Assange’s lap.

    Now, what would it cost to get them to cough up those thousands of bleach bitted Clinton emails? I don’t know about you but I’ll bet they’re keeping them in their back pocket. Didn’t the Clintons pocket 150 million or so from big biz? You extort money from people that have it, no? I wonder if that’s the Russki hacker game plan? I’m sure Putin would smile approvingly. Anyway is there honor among thieves?

  90. Orthobox December 14, 2016 at 9:18 pm #

    Trump has plenty of space to maneuver politically and fiscally.

    Republicans control Congress and laws will be passed that change tax code and allow revenue bonding, funding technique that smart states are using for over two decades now.
    Revenue bonding “creates” interest free money for infrastructure, as long as that infrastructure is capable of increasing volume of commerce.

    Trump is a very smart individual. He achieved something that was considered completely impossible just six months ago.
    He outplayed the system and forever changed the paradigm of American politics.

    For some it will take years to understand what really happened.

    Unlike Barak Husein Obama that had 100% support from media and establishment, Donald Trump was completely alone in his struggle.

    Talk about a story of American individualism and perseverance against all odds…

    • Q. Shtik December 14, 2016 at 11:24 pm #

      Trump is a very smart individual. – Ortho


      Beside being smart (after all, he DID win the presidency) he deserves an Oscar for playing to a T an individual who hasn’t got one, never mind two, brain cells to rub together. This acting tour de force continued right through today’s photo op with the country’s Tech bigwigs. Google up a transcript of what Trump had to say at this meeting. To my weak mind nothing of substance transpired…but what do I know? I guess the genius is in manipulating the media.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 15, 2016 at 1:16 am #

        You just don’t get it, Q. He is smarter than you – much smarter. But don’t feel bad – on these levels, he’s smarter than anyone.

        • Frankiti December 15, 2016 at 5:37 pm #

          He didn’t actually READ the transcript, lord knows… he was searching for typos. His barometer for genius.

    • Frankiti December 15, 2016 at 5:38 pm #

      Trump outsmarted everyone with a microphone, a silly hat, and an airplane. ’nuff said.

  91. janet December 14, 2016 at 9:28 pm #


    Putin personally directed how hacked material from Democrats was leaked and otherwise used. The intelligence Putin used came from diplomatic sources and spies working for U.S. allies.

    Putin’s objectives were multifaceted. What began as a “vendetta” against Hillary Clinton morphed into an effort to show corruption in American politics and to “split off key American allies by creating the image that [other countries] couldn’t depend on the U.S. to be a credible global leader anymore.

  92. janet December 14, 2016 at 9:35 pm #

    “Unlike Barak Husein Obama that had 100% support from media and establishment” –Orthobox

    The name is spelled Barack. Barack is an African name meaning “blessed.”

    The almost unknown community organizer from Illinois did not have 100% support from the establishment. How soon we forget that Hillary Clinton was the establishment candidate in 2007. Barack was blessed with a gift of oratory and fought Hillary to a close finish. But she was the one with the establishment behind her.

    • elysianfield December 15, 2016 at 10:27 am #

      “Barack is an African name meaning “blessed.””

      Blessed, indeed. Barak was also the name of the steed that Mohammed (peace be unto him!) rode on his ascent to Heaven.

      • thwack December 15, 2016 at 11:14 am #

        Barak is also the last name of a former Israeli prime minister; Ehood Barak

  93. volodya December 14, 2016 at 10:12 pm #

    Tthe Democrats aren’t good for much except gorging on money and comic relief.

    When Trump suggested he might challenge the election results, it was the end of civilization as we know it. So what are the Democrats doing? Oh, yes, yes, yes, sure, it’s Jill Stein, the Democrats grudgingly went along.

    But never mind, this electoral college thing, surely any educated, enlightened, progressive citizen can see the historical relic for what it is, retrograde and undemocratic. Unless that is, the Democrats won the electoral college but lost the popular vote.

  94. janet December 14, 2016 at 10:12 pm #


    By revealing serious problems in our voting systems … out-of-date laws and recount procedures, politicized courts, machine failure and vulnerability, and flagrant racial inequities … Jill Stein’s Green Party recounts were a resounding success. Jill Stein shined a light on the urgent need for reforms to our electoral system, and to the recounts that are supposed to safeguard that system. Now the Green Party will continue to work to make those reforms a reality. Congratulations, Jill Stein on a well-run campaign!

    • Q. Shtik December 14, 2016 at 11:31 pm #

      Jansoka: the Meister of Spin

      • malthuss December 15, 2016 at 2:42 am #

        Jill should be her handle.

        Even on a beer stein.

      • Frankiti December 15, 2016 at 5:29 pm #

        JansokaCCC… triple coward.

  95. KesaAnna December 15, 2016 at 2:48 am #

    ” Shockingly on-topic: Streetcars return to Detroit.


    You heard it here first. ”

    I wasn’t able to watch the video — poor internet speed here , and data usage over a trifling amount costs extra —

    But I did see a picture.

    I saw no wood in it . That is, few if any easily renewable resources in it , even where wood could well have been used.
    I guess we don’t want to look antiquated, cheap, or worst of all, mundanely practical.

    And it is enclosed, so it will necessarily have to be air-conditioned .

  96. KesaAnna December 15, 2016 at 3:07 am #


    By revealing serious problems in our voting systems … ”

    What problems exactly ?

    ” Jill Stein shined a light on the urgent need for reforms to our electoral system, ”

    What reforms are needed ?

    No wonder nobody votes Green Party.

    You won’t hear anything substantially different from the only two viable political parties this huge, diverse , country has had for over 100 years now.

    • KesaAnna December 15, 2016 at 3:14 am #

      — If you pass over in silence, or dismiss out of hand, those parties shut down by the police forces controlled by those two parties , that is .

      • Janos Skorenzy December 15, 2016 at 4:27 am #

        Yeah, she’s obviously angling for a spot in the next campaign, maybe Warren’s running mate? They owe her a favor for her post-election work, and she’s gained a lot of name recognition.

        Since Green is Red and the Democrats are Red, the Green Party is just a redundancy now. They sold out, just like the Sierra Club and just like all the big Environmentalists. Environmentalism is about limits, by definition. One can’t believe in that and be for mass immigration. You just can’t.

        • malthuss December 15, 2016 at 11:18 am #

          Will the USA even exist in 4 more years?

          • messianicdruid December 15, 2016 at 4:01 pm #

            America will survive the USA.

  97. BackRowHeckler December 15, 2016 at 7:12 am #

    Geez, I’m watching the media react to President-elect Trump’s cabinet picks — ‘specially NPR and PBS — and I can’t help compare it to how they reacted to Obama 8 years ago. Remember that? To begin with Obama was the Messiah come down from Heaven — the most saintly, intelligent man ever to hold that office. And his cabinet choices, beginning with Timothy Geitner and Hillary Clinton and Van Jones, were inspired, insightful, the work of a genius.

    Trump’s nominees are problematic, questionable. Are they Nazis, Klan members with a secret agenda? No evidence of that, but we’re just raising the question.


    • malthuss December 15, 2016 at 11:26 am #

      Was Van a terrorist? Do you know about the link from the organization he was with and the BIG Riot? And why he chose the name ‘Van.’

    • Janos Skorenzy December 15, 2016 at 3:20 pm #

      Found J Edgar Hoover’s “Masters of Deceit” yesterday at a book drop. If only we had listened.

    • Frankiti December 15, 2016 at 5:27 pm #

      NPR is a disgrace. A propganda mouthpiece of the highest order. They should be banned from the airwaves.

      • thwack December 16, 2016 at 5:55 pm #

        And they do their dirt on your dime too.

  98. BackRowHeckler December 15, 2016 at 7:25 am #

    Check out Italian news today. Italy is literally being overrun, and Italian people are finally reacting to the reality of it.

    Its ‘The Camp of the Saints’ happening before our very eyes. It seems like all of Africa is emptying out, crossing the Med, and landing on the Italian coast. The Pope and the lady mayor of Rome are welcoming even more to come in and live off the fat of the land, but the country itself is close to insolvent, and I ask, how can Italy survive this and still hold together as a nation state?


    • thwack December 15, 2016 at 7:56 am #

      White people are the most pre-emptive people on the planet. If something is happening on the planet, its because white people want it to happen.

      When Lincoln DECIDED to free the slaves, he didn’t first discuss it with black people?

      Just because YOU don’t understand WHY white people do something, doesn’t mean white people don’t benefit from what they are doing.

      • malthuss December 15, 2016 at 11:39 am #

        Blacks were slave owners. Did Abe discuss this with them?

        In 1860 the largest slave holder in South Carolina was William Ellison, a free black man and plantation owner.

        In 1830 America’s 319,000 plus free blacks owned 12,700 plus black slaves

        Blacks are still slave owners. But White [cap on W] nations have ended or tried to end slavery.

        There are a billion + Blacks [caps on B] on the planet.
        Their nations are chaos, usually.
        Camden to Congo.
        Harlem to Haiti.

    • malthuss December 15, 2016 at 11:44 am #

      Marlin, hit the brando. I mean brandy.

      Its too late. Non Whites are breeding like rabbits.

      And YT [Whitey] often funds the breeding.

  99. BackRowHeckler December 15, 2016 at 8:21 am #

    Here’s a bit of cultural news that should make you happy, Thwack: at University of Pennsylvania … a visage of William Shakespeare was removed from the wall of English Department HQ by a group of SJW English majors, and replaced with a picture of some BLACK LESBIAN POETESS WARRIOR that very few people ever heard of, including yours truly. It appears the Bard is just too white for today’s graduate students.


    • thwack December 15, 2016 at 9:34 am #

      How does replacing a visage of William Shakespeare with (Audrey lourde?)

      prevent white people from doing all the great and vast things they do?

      or help a black person get a high score on the math part of the SAT test?

      If I was a white supremacist I would encourage black people to study and support all this LGBT gender confusion and leave the Shakespeare for smart people?

      Leave the gooseberry fool for the fools.

      • malthuss December 15, 2016 at 11:54 am #

        How does replacing a visage of William Shakespeare with (Audrey lourde?) prevent white people from doing all the great and vast things they do?

        IF taxes were MUCH lower, Yt would have more children.
        But taxes pay for AA jobs and ‘gibs’ [as in ‘gibs me dat’].

        There was the 900 pound Negress that was rescued by a crane and FireMEN. DO YOU THINK BLACKS ARE MAKING A CONTRIBUTION TO CIVILIZATION?

        HERE, MY DEAR,

        August 22, 2015 at 4:55 AM” Bertha-SBPDL site;

        The survival line for this woman is nearing its end… weighs 910 pounds and had to be removed from her apartment window because of her girth. Of course, it’s a vile negress. I feel it is an excellent iconic example of the burden that blacks have become for White humans.

        All that filthy fat was paid for by Whitey (junk food via EBT), and then White firemen and tax dollars have to come to even get her out of her own apartment.

        Groids gorge themselves on the system, then Humans have to come bail them out.


        • thwack December 15, 2016 at 2:55 pm #

          IF taxes were MUCH lower, Yt would have more children.



          Blacks have children and they don’t have any money?

          Black people in Africa live in mud huts and eat ants, and they have children?

          How many children do you have?

          You want more?

          Send your wife to my house; you want a son?

          I’ll hook you up man, I can’t miss.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 15, 2016 at 2:21 pm #

        Well answered. Thwack is always all over the place, the unifying principle is to be against Whites no matter what. Last week he said that letting ourselves be savaged by Blacks is a sign of White strength.

        No, getting rid of this burden would be.

  100. fodase December 15, 2016 at 10:30 am #

    yep, Shakespeare is chuckling at this tomfoolery, let the kids enjoy their rush of justice righteousness

    they’ll soon understand that lesbians and race-based ‘poetry’ (ugh) have little to nothing to offer beyond differentness

    like they say in Icelandic, you can’t put booklearning in a bowl and expect to eat

    • malthuss December 15, 2016 at 11:42 am #

      The deification of Mandela sickens me.
      And that it is a worldwide aberration sickens me, more.

      That Whites would think he was a good guy, a joke.
      A million or so dead in SA,. since he took over. Almost all killed by Blacks and Mulattoes. 70,000 or more killed, bc they were White.

      • thwack December 15, 2016 at 2:48 pm #

        That Whites would think he was a good guy, a joke.


        What are white people doing in South Africa in the first place?

        Mandela was a saint compared to the Pol Pot type savage they could have ended up with?

        Besides, he was chosen by The Crown so STFU.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 15, 2016 at 3:18 pm #

          What are Blacks doing there? The native peoples of South Africa are the Bushmen and Hottentots – not of the Black race. Whites were in parts of South Africa before the Blacks – who have been moving Southward for centuries, looting, raping, and killing the Blacks and Non-Bantu Blacks in their path.

          • thwack December 15, 2016 at 6:59 pm #

            The native peoples of South Africa are the Bushmen and Hottentots – not of the Black race.


            Are you saying that when its time to hang ni66ers, Bushmen and Hottentots would not get hung?


            Because they chink eyed?

            Because they know your last name?

            I wanna speak to your manager.

          • Janos Skorenzy December 15, 2016 at 8:17 pm #

            Meanwhile Black guerilla fighters hunt pygmies for meat in the jungle of the Congo. They don’t consider them human. In truth, they barely are, with an IQ in the low 60’s.

          • thwack December 16, 2016 at 8:30 am #


            how low must a persons IQ be before they are qualified for mistreatment and abuse?

          • thwack December 16, 2016 at 9:16 pm #

            Sure got quiet all of the sudden?

  101. fodase December 15, 2016 at 11:52 am #

    Everyone targets Whites because they’re the tops in virtually all areas of importance worldwide.

    Everyone loves to berate them, but everyone wants to live in their countries and benefit from the wealth and freedom they’ve created.

    It’s tacit recognition that Whites have superior economic, political and social systems.

    Case closed, it’s that simple.

    • malthuss December 15, 2016 at 11:54 am #

      see my post of a moment ago.

    • malthuss December 15, 2016 at 11:55 am #

      Who is this ‘everyone?’ Might they be ((()))?

    • Janos Skorenzy December 15, 2016 at 2:25 pm #

      And if we don’t stop it we won’t remain at the top. It’s that simple. Gratitude between races doesn’t exist. They will always resent us for being better than them. The dark hand that reaches out for a handout is the same one that will strike the foolish White who offered.

  102. fodase December 15, 2016 at 12:24 pm #

    Whites can be 900 pounds and vile too, and rescued using a crane, I’ve seen that too, and I know plenty of vile people of all shades.

    Discussing white/black is a vapid exercise at best, everyone buckle up, work hard, stop focusing on colour (ya hear that you idiotic lefty loonies??) and better yourself and your family circumstances best you can.

    Get ready to rumble cuz there’s going to be jobs a plenty under Herr Trump, the US and A finally has its go-go economy back now that the jug eared nitwit and his band of dunces have been shown the door.

    good riddance to bad rubbish

  103. Janos Skorenzy December 15, 2016 at 2:34 pm #


    Our whole existence is nothing but keeping other people down, you see. It’s like the Supreme Court Justice who voted to legalize gay marriage as if the whole history of marriage had been for no other purpose than to keep Gays down. We’re being denied our “own being for itself” if you pardon the Heidegger speak – in this case it is illuminating.

    The Professor’s name? Adam Kostko. Irish? English? Italian? German? J**ish perhaps?

  104. capt spaulding December 15, 2016 at 3:21 pm #

    You Nazi fucks give me a swifty. Everybody on line is brave as hell when it comes to spouting your bullshit. I find myself agreeing with Cold N Holdfield. Put up or shut up. I’ve seen the elephant. If you know what that means, then you have too. I’ll back my shit up anytime you want. All you pricks are brave until it comes time to show what you’re made of. I’m sick of all this online posturing.

    • nsa December 15, 2016 at 5:00 pm #

      THS (Trumpster Hysteria Syndrome) can be very difficult for lefties, already stressed out trying to navigate the seven stages of grief. Try warm milk and cookies in your own special safe space… if that doesn’t help, try the Direct TV Puppy Channel. And please stay away from sharp objects and firearms……..

      • malthuss December 16, 2016 at 11:15 am #

        I liked as post here from Back Row Heckler about this.

    • Frankiti December 15, 2016 at 5:25 pm #

      They’d never post under their real names.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 15, 2016 at 8:24 pm #

        So you’re for White Genocide? Or don’t believe it’s happening but wish it were? Why else would you be angry at me for talking about it and being against it?

        • thwack December 16, 2016 at 8:26 am #

          Hey Janos,

          how many children do you have?

          Is it me?

          or has anyone else noticed this phenomenon where the white people screaming the loudest about “white genocide”; are the ones who don’t have any children?

          In addition,

          out of all the childless white women walking around in the grocery store, they will focus all their rage and fury on the ONE white woman with a bi-racial baby?

          You can’t make this stuff up.

          • malthuss December 16, 2016 at 11:16 am #

            White [fixed that] woman with a bi-racial baby?

            Single mother?

    • Janos Skorenzy December 15, 2016 at 8:20 pm #

      Go to a Trump rally and take on a Red Hat iron worker or retired cop. Please then post the pictures of your black eyes and broken nose.

  105. FincaInTheMountains December 15, 2016 at 3:39 pm #

    Ex-British ambassador who is now a WikiLeaks operative claims Russia did NOT provide Clinton emails – they were handed over to him at a D.C. park by an intermediary for ‘disgusted’ Democratic whistleblowers

    Craig Murray, former British ambassador to Uzbekistan and associate of Julian Assange, told the Dailymail.com he flew to Washington, D.C. for emails

    He claims he had a clandestine hand-off in a wooded area near American University with one of the email sources

    The leakers’ motivation was ‘disgust at the corruption of the Clinton Foundation and the ’tilting of the primary election playing field against Bernie Sanders

    Murray says: ‘The source had legal access to the information. The documents came from inside leaks, not hacks’


    Voter Expansion Data Director at the DNC Seth Rich was shot about a block from his home in the Bloomingdale neighborhood of Washington, D.C

    DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz issued a statement mourning the loss and praising Rich’s work “to protect the most sacred right we share as Americans — the right to vote


  106. janet December 15, 2016 at 4:52 pm #


    After his arrest, Dylann Roof spoke with FBI agents and said: “I am guilty. We all know I’m guilty.” Roof saidhe committed the acts because he believed black men were raping white women “daily” and that white people had become second-class citizens, just like some on CFN believe.

    Mother Emanuel Church, founded in 1816 by members of the black community who left their Methodist church over racial prejudice, has seen its share of discrimination. In 1822, white supremacists burned it to the ground, and in 1834, local laws banned black churches, forcing members to meet in secret.

    • Frankiti December 15, 2016 at 5:24 pm #

      Coward has a new moniker, buts same BS in any name WPA_CCC, Asoka, Absalom…et al

      • janet December 15, 2016 at 5:43 pm #

        Cowards are people who dress up in white sheets and burn Black peoples’ churches. Cowards are those who put bombs in Black churches to kill little girls in Sunday school. Cowards are those who enter a Black church and shoot the unarmed members of a prayer and bible study group in cold blood. No one, Mr. Frankiti, posts their real name and contact information here, including you. Does that make you a coward, too?

        I am not going to bother explaining over and over that I am janet, not jen from san jose or asoka or absolam, or wpa or Q or janos or Mr. Darling or anyone else.

        • Frankiti December 15, 2016 at 5:44 pm #

          You’re a f***ing charlatan

          • malthuss December 16, 2016 at 11:17 am #


  107. Frankiti December 15, 2016 at 5:31 pm #

    Why is Jansoka WPA_CCC Absalom such a coward? Why must it constantly change its screen name? It can live with being consistently wrong? It needs to take argumentative positions under new names to attract new bait, a new dupe?

    What a pathetic fraud… a fraud of a fraud.

    • janet December 15, 2016 at 5:44 pm #

      Cowards are people who dress up in white sheets and burn Black peoples’ churches. Cowards are those who put bombs in Black churches to kill little girls in Sunday school. Cowards are those who enter a Black church and shoot the unarmed members of a prayer and bible study group in cold blood. No one, Mr. Frankiti, posts their real name and contact information here, including you. Does that make you a coward, too?

      **I am not going to bother explaining over and over that I am janet, not jen from san jose or asoka or absolam, or wpa or Q or janos or Mr. Darling or anyone else.

      **Except through cut and paste.

      • Frankiti December 15, 2016 at 5:44 pm #

        An attention whore with a new dress

        • janet December 16, 2016 at 1:11 am #

          You da pimp, Freakiti

        • thwack December 16, 2016 at 8:18 am #

          Janet is here for male attention; we are just several hundred meters of her thousand cock death march.

  108. B9K9 December 15, 2016 at 8:04 pm #

    Jim, Trump just specifically mentioned trains as part of the proposed infrastructure spending program.

    Waiting for you to come around.

  109. messianicdruid December 15, 2016 at 8:42 pm #

    thwack wondered, “How did you come up with that number?” [ 10% ]

    You gotta start some where. Do I have to justify it in some way?

    • thwack December 16, 2016 at 8:10 am #

      No sir; as a white person (which I suspect you are) you have the guaranteed qualification to answer for a white person; which is what I sought.

      Most of the time white people won’t answer that question; especially racist white people.

      I have a small stockpile of questions white people don’t/won’t answer.

      Why do I collect them?

      Because its such a rare phenomenon for a white person to be tongue tied and speechless in response to a question about race?

      In the rare case when they get hemmed up; usually they just assault you with buckets and buckets of words until you get distracted.

      White liberals are masters of this technique.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 16, 2016 at 3:26 pm #

        Yes, he answered the question and then you went off onto a riff about how Whites don’t exist anyway. A people who don’t exist have no collective rights you see.

        I knew you would do some variant of this.

  110. Cold N. Holefield December 15, 2016 at 9:11 pm #

    What a great place for Trump’s latest “Thank You” Bloviation. I wonder if he was jacked up on Amphetamines? I bet he was and is just like Hitler — word is, Shickelgoober was jacked up on all kinds of drugs to keep his Delusions of Grandeur going.

    Hershey — as in Hershey Highway — as in Trump & The Rich are going to Fist Fuck The Little People, the Ironworkers and the Retired Cops, up their collective Hershey Highway.

    Bend over, you Moronic Suckers. It’s time for your Orange Julius Enema.

  111. Cold N. Holefield December 15, 2016 at 9:15 pm #

    Yeah, B9K9, Trump also said he was going to lock Hillary up and, of course, he reneged on that as I knew he would.

    Infrastructure for Trump and his Cronies means The Keystone Pipeline and many more Pipelines to come. Hoover promised a Chicken in every Pot and Trump promises a Pipeline through every Living Room.

    • Q. Shtik December 15, 2016 at 10:47 pm #

      Cold N. to B9K9: was going to lock Hillary up and, of course, he reneged on that as I knew he would.


      Hey B9, in case you are not yet aware, Cold knows everything before it happens.

    • messianicdruid December 16, 2016 at 1:19 pm #

      When full employment consists of hammering chains on each others ankles we better wise up!

  112. Q. Shtik December 15, 2016 at 11:13 pm #

    You just don’t get it, Q. He is smarter than you – much smarter. – Janos


    Yes, I think I said as much……..AND I gave him kudos for his phenomenal act at playing the complete idiot (probably to disarm the guy across the bargaining table). Any day now I am expecting him to say “Tell me again about the rabbits, George.”

  113. janet December 16, 2016 at 1:06 am #


    “I think there is no doubt that when any foreign government tries to impact the integrity of our elections … we need to take action,” Obama said in an interview with NPR, to be broadcast Friday. “And we will, at a time and place of our own choosing. Some of it may be explicit and publicized; some of it may not be.”

    Obama last met with Russian President Vladimir Putin at the G-20 summit in September to discuss the cyberattacks.

    “He is well aware of my feelings, because I spoke to him directly about it,” he said.

    U.S. intelligence officials say that Putin directly ordered the hack.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 16, 2016 at 4:47 am #

      If so, he did us a favor that cannot ever be forgotten. He revealed for all to see the unspeakable corruption of Hillary and the Clinton Cabal. She could not be allowed to take office by decent people. Her doing so would have necessitated a coup.

    • messianicdruid December 16, 2016 at 1:26 pm #

      “U.S. intelligence officials say that Putin directly ordered the hack.”

      Is Colon Powell double-dipping?

  114. janet December 16, 2016 at 2:33 am #


    WASHINGTON ? A judge has ordered Republican President-elect Donald Trump to give a deposition in a lawsuit against celebrity chef Jose Andres stemming from Trump’s disparaging remarks about Mexican immigrants.

    District of Columbia Superior Court Judge Jennifer Di Toro ruled on Wednesday that Trump must testify in New York about Andres’ restaurant deal at Trump’s luxury Washington hotel. The deposition can last up to seven hours and will take place in the first week of January.

    His lawyers had sought to limit how long Trump could be questioned and what could be covered, contending he was extremely busy ahead of his Jan. 20 inauguration.

    But Di Toro said in her order that limits on the deposition could harm preparations by Andres’ lawyers, and that Trump’s own statements were at the heart of the case.

    Trump is suing Andres for $10 million over breach of contract after Andres backed out of a plan to open a restaurant in the Trump International Hotel a few blocks from the White House.

  115. Janos Skorenzy December 16, 2016 at 4:55 am #


    We have a serious problem here. We need to let them police themselves or allow cops to immediately draw their revolvers upon contact with a groid. One false move or refusal to obey a command and they’re finished.

    One poster made an excellent point: in a few years Blacks will be screaming to get rid of body cams or car cameras: they simply reveal the extent of Black criminality.

    • thwack December 16, 2016 at 7:56 am #

      “in a few years Blacks will be screaming to get rid of body cams or car cameras: they simply reveal the extent of Black criminality.”


      I called it several years ago with the rise of “World Star Hip Hop.”

      You can now watch blacks behaving badly and basically validating all the things racists say about us, even if you don’t work or live around any.

      Matter of fact, I suspect the vast amount of videos showing blacks acting like savage animals is the reason people believed George Zimmerman, all the police officers, and basically anybody who claims they were forced to shoot a black person.

      Tommy Sotomayor has built a Youtube career just out of violent black females and children?

      As soon as the body cam proposal was put forward I knew black people would fall for it.

      My favorite blacks behaving badly video is called “Kentucky Fried Dindus”

      • malthuss December 16, 2016 at 11:21 am #

        Zimmerman, like Barry O, is part Black. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 16, 2016 at 3:37 pm #

        Why don’t you become a White Nationalist, then? If you know how bad Blacks are, you must know that rule by Whites is the only way they (you) can prosper? Instead you attack us and fantasize about our coming disappearance or that we don’t exist and never have. Irrational.

        • thwack December 16, 2016 at 5:49 pm #

          Why don’t you become a White Nationalist, then?


          Can I keep my white woman?

          • Janos Skorenzy December 16, 2016 at 7:55 pm #

            For now. But not in the White Republic. You can be our ambassador to “Colored Land” where mixed, mulattoes, mestizos, breeds, off Whites, and confused Whites are going to get to go.

            You can do whatever you want “there”.

          • thwack December 16, 2016 at 9:12 pm #

            Well then the deal is off.

            Expect no quarter.

  116. KesaAnna December 16, 2016 at 5:49 am #

    ” You Nazi fucks give me a swifty. Everybody on line is brave as hell when it comes to spouting your bullshit. I find myself agreeing with Cold N Holdfield. Put up or shut up. I’ve seen the elephant. If you know what that means, then you have too. I’ll back my shit up anytime you want. All you pricks are brave until it comes time to show what you’re made of. I’m sick of all this online posturing. ”

    Outside of the rare religious commune, internet anonymity is the closest thing to a moral society I have ever seen.

    In real life, some very nasty things can happen to a person merely because they can’t pay the bills, Worse, 99% of the time you won’t even get any credit for sacrifice or martyrdom , because these very nasty things that can happen to a person merely because they can’t pay their bills are rarely ever spoken of .

    So a lot of people keep their mouths shut out of fear.
    No, not fear of being shot. This is NOT North Korea . Fear of losing your job — then you can’t pay the bills — then some very nasty things can happen to you that make you WISH they had the integrity and decency to shoot people.

    ” Cowards are people who dress up in white sheets and burn Black peoples’ churches. Cowards are those who put bombs in Black churches to kill little girls in Sunday school. ”

    — And cowards are people who stand there with a strait face and pretend that discrimination laws, and labor laws , are worth the paper they are printed on. I dare say the internet’s anonymity is at least 50% of the reason for its success . And that anonymity is so attractive and so prized for a very good reason.
    And not because ” liberals” are remotely liberal in practice, or because “conservatives” are remotely conservative in practice.

    ” We need to let them police themselves ”

    There might be something to that. Perhaps you should think about that one awhile. Maybe it is a bad idea? But, certainly, the hyper-control model we have been following for a hundred years now has brought us to the point of mass suicide / genocide.

    ” …or allow cops to immediately draw their revolvers upon contact with a groid. One false move or refusal to obey a command and they’re finished. ”

    Ugh ! This is really a very simple one ; This is ONLY a remotely sane and reasonable idea, IF you think it would equally as well do to give such sweeping power to your ENEMIES.

    No ? Then the very reasons and logic why you think it would be a very bad idea to give such power to your enemies should clue you in as to why it is a bad idea to give such power to your …..uh……..” friends” . *chuckle*

    Suuure , give your friend the grossest kind of advantage over you , and see how long he remains your equal, partner, and friend.

    • KesaAnna December 16, 2016 at 5:55 am #

      ” Suuure , give your friend the grossest kind of advantage over you , and see how long he remains your equal, partner, and friend. ”

      Well, there are exceptions in this case.
      And when you meet such a person, if you have any sense, you should marry that person. lol.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 16, 2016 at 3:34 pm #

      Quite true, Kesa. Whatever they do to them, they can do to us. And yes, there are many atrocities against Whites by the Police that get no coverage. I was in effect arguing for a two policy state, one for them and one for us. And that would bring many problems and much brutality of its own. Far better to separate as the greatest Americans, like Jefferson, wanted us to do.

      Great post above. I wish I had a nickel for every Liberal who fantasized about me being slaughtered by minorities because of my views. Anonymity is right up there with jury nullification as key but unsung components of our system.

  117. KesaAnna December 16, 2016 at 6:33 am #

    ” in a few years Blacks will be screaming to get rid of body cams or car cameras: they simply reveal the extent of Black criminality. ”

    30 years ago when the working class was being gutted, and the still-safe middle class said nothing , I predicted that one day the bourgeois would itself be screaming , when they learned that outsourcing labor to India can just as well be applied to engineers as to ditch-diggers .
    The only surprise to me was how quickly it happened.
    funny thing is, I have no psychic powers .

    Well, now I will make another prediction ;
    Someday you will be screaming when you learn that —

    — The people you entrusted with the cameras were not on your side and were not your friends.

    — 10,000 + laws and constantly growing , renders the concept of ” criminal” irrelevant and antique.

    — You were never the spotless saints you pretended to be anyway.

    Not that it takes any sort of genius to figure that out. A reasonably skeptical and circumspect 10-year-old could see that .

    • malthuss December 16, 2016 at 11:22 am #

      I think the end of prosperity got a BIG push forward in 1913.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 16, 2016 at 9:46 pm #

      Kerouac says he saw a big change in his lifetime. In the old days, they didn’t mind hobos and hitchikers so much, but then grew to hate them. Probably the influence of the “let it all hang out 60’s where the culture lost all cohesiveness. The Police began to hate the citizenry. And hitchhiking became far more dangerous as well.

      He stopped bumming around America. Just too dangerous he said. And the police seemed to enjoy harassing people just sleeping on the side of the road whereas before they would have just left them alone.

      Remember O Keesh. if we were saints, we would never have taken this continent. Nor would or could we have kept Europe, White and Christian. You tend to forget that Satan is Rex Mundi. And that those who beat their swords into ploughshares will do the plowing for those that don’t.

  118. Cold N. Holefield December 16, 2016 at 6:59 am #

    capt oh my capt, don’t let them get to you. They’re a collective of crotchety cantankerous geriatrics who can barely control their bladders & bowels who are emblematic of a bygone rape culture. This comments section is like Viagra for them — they come here and band together and it makes them feel powerful again — it makes them feel like they can rape again like they’ve done their entire lives, and I mean rape both figuratively and literally. Any woman who is a part of their lives can be no woman at all. To be in their company and to pretend to love them means any theretofore woman would have to cease being a woman and instead become some caricature to fulfill their rapist fantasies. A Blow-Up Doll, of sorts. Remember Barbara Fitts, Colonel Fitts’ wife, from American Beauty? These are the “women” in their lives. Hollowed out vessels. Ghosts of what could have been had they not “fallen” for these rapists.

    Take this “nsa” character, for example. If you do your research, despite Google trying to hide it, you will find that the America Military, during the Iraq Invasion & Occupation, in order to break the will of the fomenting opposition I suppose or hell maybe they just like to do this kind of thing, raped young Iraqi boys in front of their Mothers. This is fact and there is factual evidence proving it, yet you don’t see it covered in The Mainstream Media nor can you find it easily with an Internet Search because Google has done its Patriotic Duty by smothering the evidence and preventing it from showing up in searches. This “nsa” puke, a commie-pinko considering his fealty to Vlad Putin who was and still is a Commie-PInko, is the character profile of someone who would not only order those rapes on Iraqi boys, but who would do the raping for the pure pleasure of it. NO doubt “nsa” is an FBI “guy.” The FBI are Trump’s Brown Shirts. That much is clear now, and we all know the Brown Shirts enjoyed violent gay sex. This “nsa” fuckface has all the hallmarks of a Brown Shirt.

    My point here is, what the American Military did in Iraq, all of the atrocities we know of and don’t know of, is not anomalous behavior. It’s indicative of a Rape Culture just as the majority of comments to this comments section by the Usual Suspects later in the week is indicative of a Rape Culture. This “nsa” freak, more than any other commenter, is emblematic of this Dark Heart. He reminds me of The Colonel, and not just Colonel Fitts, but that other Colonel I had a run-in with several years ago — the pussified coward who threatened to let his special ops goons loose on me so he could do to me what he did to Che and countless others, both Americans and Vietnamese, in Vietnam. When I pushed back against The Colonel in email and told him I was going to contact the FBI about his threats, he said “go ahead, I’m a good friend of the FBI Director, you want his number?” I knew then, as if I didn’t before, that the FBI is a totally corrupt organization that is effectively enforcement for the vested interests of The Rich and The Political Establishment. This is why, when The People’s Party takes hold and seizes the day, we must eliminate, once and for all, all Alphabet Agencies and make it clear, in no uncertain terms, that the days of lobbying by Special Interests is over for good. We will institute a government, finally, that is truly by and for the good of all people, not just a select few, and we will eliminate the Rape Culture that still exists in America to this day. We’ll start by castrating all rapists as part of their punishment and branding on their foreheads the word RAPIST in all caps for all to see. That means “nsa,” if he’s still alive, will be apprehended and brought before a People’s Court and he will be tried, and no doubt found guilty, for rape and promptly castrated and branded before “he” serves “his” time. He is emblematic of those who ordered and conducted the rapes of the young Iraqi boys, and those who did that, which really is the entirety of The Establishment, have never been brought to proper Justice. They will be when The People’s Party rises and wins. It will be the end of their World for good.

    • Cold N. Holefield December 16, 2016 at 7:14 am #

      There’s that, and of course, they’re sore because Dylan Roof was convicted yesterday. It was a very sad day for them because, as you know or should know, Roof was like a son or brother or lover to them. They are that fond of him. To them, he is a hero — a martyr. When I look at Roof, I think, “you know, that might as well be Q. Shtik’s son or “nsa’s” brother or Janos’ lover.” So, I suppose, for now at least, we should go a little easy on them until they get over the loss of one of their compatriots. Trump will Make America Great Again — one Dylan Roof at a time.

      • thwack December 16, 2016 at 7:37 am #

        “one Dylan Roof at a time.”


        You spelled his name wrong; its Dyl-ANN.

        Were his parents expecting a girl?

        • Cold N. Holefield December 16, 2016 at 7:40 am #

          Janos made him change it from Dylan to Dylann.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 16, 2016 at 3:40 pm #

          That grotesque hair cut and blank face are hardly “chilling”. But that unexpectedly big, resonant, good ol’ boy voice and him laughing as he described the dirty deed? Very much so.

  119. BackRowHeckler December 16, 2016 at 7:12 am #

    Well, found a pic of SJW scholar who took down Shakespeare poster at Penn, not surprisingly a white kid, pajama boy or pantywaist, take your pick, the New American Male.

    I’ve advised my young relatives, nephews, to stay the hell away from these colleges and universities, which seem to be nothing more than snakepits … ruled over by carpetmunchers, Ivy league being the worst.

    they’ve taken my advice for the most part, in the past 5 years one in Army Airbourne, one a diesel mechanic making pretty good money for a company that builds roads, another a welder who works offshore, another a project manager installing solar on large industrial buildings.

    anyway, as soon as this federal student loan program collapses and goes toes up from insolvency, half these colleges and universities, cut off from the govt. teat, will be history.


    • Cold N. Holefield December 16, 2016 at 7:21 am #

      Don’t forget Coal Mining — that’s making a huge comeback. Black Lung sure as hell beats student loan debt and when the mine collapses and you’re trapped, if you’re fortunate enough to survive, you’ll get a huge book and movie deal out of it. Trump will guarantee it so long as you give him a cut of the action for hooking you up. Maybe the offshore welder will be lucky enough to land on one of the drilling rigs in The Arctic when operations commence there in in a year or two. How awesome will that be? Nothing like welding in 60 degrees below zero temperatures for $20/hour.

      • stelmosfire December 16, 2016 at 11:06 am #

        Cold, Have you ever worked offshore? Neither have I. I do know some guys that have. I worked the land based rigs years ago and a few of my friends were able to work their way into an off shore gig in the North Sea, They loved it! two weeks on and three weeks off. Time off was spent in the Spanish Riviera. Oh the stories they had and they were making more than 20 bucks an hour and that was 30+ years ago. I would bet a welder with good certs would be making quite a bit more than $20 an hour today. Get your facts straight.

        • Cold N. Holefield December 16, 2016 at 11:25 am #

          Key word you used there is “today.” Tomorrow is a different story. Trump is going to gut regulations and those regulations include labor. Trump & his Cronies are laying the groundwork for Feudalism and soon enough, welders of any stripe, not just welders on drilling rigs, will be making peanuts compared to “today.” Trump represents the interests of Contemporary Feudalism and all the “jobs’ brh mentioned will be the purview of Serfs.

        • malthuss December 16, 2016 at 11:26 am #

          Get your facts straight!!!!!
          Dont mess with Coldy.

  120. FincaInTheMountains December 16, 2016 at 7:26 am #

    Terrible revenge of Obama on Putin

    In all the US media are the headlines: “Obama has promised to avenge Putin for hacking Hillary’s servers”

    I am looking for the source. I find it on the NPR site:


    NPR during the election campaign broke away from PBS, which lay under the Clintons. This radio station is going to publish the full interview only on Friday and is leaking the pieces of the interview, one of which was the original source of the news.

    I read:

    I think there is no doubt that when any foreign government tries to impact the integrity of our elections … we need to take action. And we will — at a time and place of our own choosing. Some of it may be explicit and publicized; some of it may not be.

    I read further and found out that Obama said that Republicans accuse him of being soft towards Putin, while they themselves vote for the candidate who is going to be friends with Putin. And then he quoted some political analyst as saying that Putin’s popularity after these elections several times higher than before the election.

    That is, Obama argues that Americans (including himself?) are grateful to Putin for hacking Wicked Witch of the West. And anyway, after reading this article, there is an overwhelming impression of that terrible revenge on Putin will be a bottle of fine wine (whiskey?) and the most sincere words of gratitude from the outgoing US president for help in the fight for the preservation of democracy in the US. And the wily Putin recently invited Obama to visit Russia after his demobilization and even declared to the whole world that Russia will always be happy to host someone who “shred Russian economy to pieces”.

    Obama said in the last sentence in response to the demands of Clintonoids to supply lethal weapon to Kiev Nazis. He said “we do not have to cause Russia even more grief, we have already tear their economy to pieces, And I will not permit the supply of weapons, as redundant.”

  121. BackRowHeckler December 16, 2016 at 7:30 am #

    Here’s a bit of news, from Europe.

    Just yesterday, in London, thousands of Muslims take to the streets, demanding Sharia law and an European Caliphate.

    In the Munster Region of Germany, hundreds of Christian religious statues defaced and destroyed, including Virgin Mary and Crucifixion icons beheaded. Syrian suspects have fled the country.

    Merry Christmas!


    • malthuss December 16, 2016 at 11:27 am #

      Do you have a link?

      • Cold N. Holefield December 16, 2016 at 11:33 am #

        BRH is Mr. Moonie today and every day. It’s in The Washington Times — you know, that rag Sun Myung Moon started in 1980 to allegedly combat the Communist Agenda prevalent in more Liberal Publications like The Washington Post. Ironically, thirty some odd years later, The Washington Times readership prefers Communism as is witnessed by their fealty to the Commie-Pinko, Vladimir Putin.

        • malthuss December 16, 2016 at 2:19 pm #

          CIA Backed Washington Post?

        • Janos Skorenzy December 16, 2016 at 3:46 pm #

          I prefer the Falun Gong “Epoch Times”. I suspect they are CIA.

  122. Cold N. Holefield December 16, 2016 at 7:38 am #

    I don’t know about all of you, but I thoroughly enjoy watching Trump’s Thank You Rally Speeches. It’s a great service all the Cable News Networks provide by televising these spectacles free of charge. My whole family gathers around, Popcorn & Coke in hand, to watch our Great Leader pontificate about the complexities of The System we live and under.

    We play little games during Orange Julius’s speeches to keep our minds sharp — kinda like Siddoku. One such game is to count, like I used to count VW Beetles on the road when we went on vacations when I was young, the number of times Trump says “amazing” and “great” and we also count the number of Muslims, Hispanics, Blacks and Asians in the audience which is actually rather easy since that number is usually zero or close to it.

  123. barbisbest December 16, 2016 at 9:47 am #

    I heard from a reliable source they can’t get any A-listers to perform at January’s inauguration. Maybe they can get Ted Nugent to perform Free for All. Fitting for sure. If Trump’S so smart, why can’t he speak two coherent sentences in a row. I feel certain not “everyone loves Trump.”

    • Cold N. Holefield December 16, 2016 at 10:09 am #

      Ted’s a typical Trump Supporter and very much like Trump. He’s all about himself and the spectacle. I hear he bragged that he shit and pissed himself in order to avoid being drafted and I also hear that he had sex with underage female fans which is statutory rape by the way but in Trump’s America I have no doubt that “stupid” law will be removed from the books and young barely pubescent girls will be fair game again just as God intended.

      Make America Great Again — If They’re Old Enough To Bleed They’re Old Enough To Breed.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 16, 2016 at 3:47 pm #

      You’re right, Barb. Hollywood is trash. Nor will Designers work with Melania. She’ll have to go to Russia to be clothed as befits a Queen. Russia is becoming the Center of all Goodness.

  124. FincaInTheMountains December 16, 2016 at 10:56 am #

    Most expensive Twit in history

    The F-35 program and cost is out of control. Billions of dollars can and will be saved on military (and other) purchases after January 20th.


    The result of this has surpassed all expectations: in two hours the capitalisation of the largest Aircraft Corporation USA – Lockheed Martin, engaged in development of the F-35 – fell by $ 3.5 billion.

    The total cost of the F-35 program is about $ 400 billion.

    And they are still talking about pathetic conflict of interests in some hotel in DC. Idiots.

    • Cold N. Holefield December 16, 2016 at 11:28 am #

      I wonder what other military expenditures Putin will have Trump nix? Why won’t the Alphabet Agencies show the verified & verifiable nexus between Putin & Trump? Why are they holding this vital information back? Surely they have enough to arrest him for treason right now, or do they have to wait until he’s inaugurated before arresting him?

  125. FincaInTheMountains December 16, 2016 at 11:47 am #


    He gravest mistake you are making is that you are trying to judge people of the scale of Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump or Vladimir Putin using the regular human measuring tape – more money, more power, more pussy.

    And I believe all that for them all that is just means achieving their goals, but not the goals. After all, no money, power or pussy would make them immortal

    For instance, I happen to believe that Hillary belongs to a medieval sect that could be traced back as yearly as 12th century and which I call the Western Black Project. And I am not very familiar with the ranks and rituals of that sect, but Hillary’s ultimate goal is to get as close to what we can call a status of Antichrist while she is still in this world.

    For her to achieve that, she should at least witness an event of such magnitude caused by her actions, as giant nuclear mushroom cloud above the New York City.

    Regarding Donald Trump – he’s facing the same problem – no amount of money, power or pussy will make him immortal. So, he must be looking for his Ultimate High – which in his case would be a title of Savior of the Nation – not BS title, but sincere one awarded by American people.

    • Cold N. Holefield December 16, 2016 at 1:02 pm #

      I’m not making any mistake. They’re all Con Artists, and Trump’s the best Con Artist of them all. What he did to Miss Venezuela he’s going to do to his supporters and The Little People, meaning, he’s going to use them then abuse them. He’s going to grab their pussy and shove his cock in every orifice and rape them and then throw them to the curb just as Putin does to the The Little People of Russia.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 16, 2016 at 3:50 pm #

      You are Correct about her. And it goes back far longer than that, to the creation of the Pharisee sect and their scripture, the Talmud.

      Hitler knew of them and fought them. But America was already in their hands at a high level. Now it’s Putin’s turn to fight them. May Trump aid him and may he aid Trump.

      • FincaInTheMountains December 16, 2016 at 5:23 pm #

        Janos, you crazy, Hitler was blacker than coal.

  126. nsa December 16, 2016 at 12:24 pm #

    ALERT….BREAKING NEWS: one of our satellites covering the Topeka, Kansas, area spotted Corn N. Hole entering the Menninger Clinic. We here in Ft. Meade immediately researched recent phone calls into the Clinic (as you know, we have archived all phone calls, text messages, and internet key strokes in North America) and can verify that Corn N Hole did indeed check himself into the famous clinic for psychiatric evaluation. Our examination of their records (they are computerized so we have them too) indicates he has been diagnosed with an extremely severe mental disorder known as TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome), and sedated so he will not harm himself or others. There is now an epidemic of TDS sweeping the country. Guess the warm milk and cookies while watching the direct TV Puppy Channel could not help alleviate such a severe affliction of TDS. Am sure all commentors here are very concerned with Corn N Hole’s well being, and wish him a speedy and full recovery.

    • Cold N. Holefield December 16, 2016 at 12:56 pm #

      Spoken, or I should say typed, like a True Rapist. Your time is coming, Rapist. It’ll be castration for you and a new stylish tattoo on your forehead letting everyone know who and what you are.

    • Cold N. Holefield December 16, 2016 at 1:08 pm #

      And shut the hell up with your “we here in Ft. Meade” bullshit schtick. Get some new material you rapist dork. You’re like the hosts in Westworld and like your Man Crush Trump — A Broken Fucking Record.

      “We here in Ft. Meade enjoy raping young Iraqi boys in front of their Mothers and calling it war.”

      ^ This last quote is more appropriate so why don’t you use it the next time, wipe of the ass. That’s an order, fruitcake.

  127. beantownbill. December 16, 2016 at 12:27 pm #

    And on a lighter (but sarcastic) note:

    President-elect Trump invited the Pope for lunch on his mega-yacht, the pope accepted, and during lunch a puff of wind blew the Pontiff’s hat right off into the water. It floated off about 50 feet.

    The crew and Secret Service were scrambling to launch a boat when Trump waved them off, saying ” Never mind, boys, I’ll get it”. The Donald climbed over the side of the yacht and walked on the water to the hat, picked it up, walked back on the water, climbed onto the yacht and handed the Pope his hat.

    The crew was speechless, and the security team and the Pope’s entourage were speechless.

    No one knew what to say, not even the Pope.

    But that afternoon, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, and CNN all knew how to cover the story. Their banner headline read, “TRUMP CAN’T SWIM!”

    • Cold N. Holefield December 16, 2016 at 1:12 pm #

      With all that Fluorescent Orange DayGlo, Orange Julius could never get lost at sea. They’d be able to spot him in the dark, even. If only the folks on Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 were as “smart” as Trump, they’d still be alive today. I think if Trump is inaugurated he should legislate that all airline passengers paint themselves in Orange DayGlo when traveling so something like Flight 370 never happens again.

      • capt spaulding December 16, 2016 at 3:40 pm #

        Well Cold, You know as well as I do that trump has never been in physical danger in his life. He has that “behind the lines” heroism that George W Bush had when he invaded Iraq. You know, “go get ’em boys”, leading from the rear. Now with the election of donald (his names goes in low caps), we see all of the fascists come out from under the rocks, prancing & waving their arms in celebration of the creation of the 4th Reich. Well, it ain’t gonna go down that easy boys, and someday you might have to put your money where your mouth is. My guess is that nsa and the others of his ilk, will be right where they always are, sitting somewhere behind a keyboard, cheering the troops on, out of harm’s way.

        • Cold N. Holefield December 16, 2016 at 4:17 pm #


        • Q. Shtik December 16, 2016 at 9:18 pm #

          nsa and the others of his ilk, will be right where they always are, sitting somewhere behind a keyboard……. out of harm’s way. – Capt S.


          Isn’t that what all us bloggers/commenters do?

    • malthuss December 16, 2016 at 2:20 pm #

      Funny last 2 lines.

  128. messianicdruid December 16, 2016 at 1:15 pm #

    “Because its such a rare phenomenon for a white person to be tongue tied and speechless in response to a question about race?”

    A question or a statement?

    I prefer caucausian to “white person”.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 16, 2016 at 3:56 pm #

      Caucasian includes all kinds of aliens like Arabs, Moors, Afghans, Hindus, etc. We are not them and they are not us. And their cultures and behavior are very different to ours, even thought are close to genetically compared to say, East Asians. Whites are unique. Thought you knew that.

      Technically, in an anthropological sense, we could be called the Northern Caucasians and those people the Southern Caucasians. But the gap is far too wide to be bridged on all kinds of levels.

      • messianicdruid December 16, 2016 at 9:47 pm #

        I thought it was people who lived in the Caucasus Mountains, or those who were traveling NW through them and mistaken for caucausians – on the way to “the Isles” and ultimately “the Wilderness”.

        • Janos Skorenzy December 16, 2016 at 10:33 pm #

          Yeah, no. Whites were in Europe already – for tens of thousands of years, Ten Tribes or not.

          • thwack December 17, 2016 at 1:32 pm #


            the reason Janos’ logic is confusing is because he keeps switching between “White” and “Caucasian”; WITHOUT providing a definition of “White.”

            The reason he can’t define “white” is because RACISM = WHITE SUPREMACY.

            In other words, he can’t define “white” without PRACTICING racism; which is why he doesn’t want to define it.

            Janos may be a knuckle head, but even he is smart enough to know that if people find out “white” is whatever the hell he DECIDES it is; they will reject, not only his definition of “white”;


            but the very CONCEPT of white itself.


          • Janos Skorenzy December 17, 2016 at 3:01 pm #

            I did define it. You just don’t accept our existence. The mixed or inferior breed hates the pure and/or superior.

  129. Janos Skorenzy December 16, 2016 at 3:59 pm #

    Obama, two months ago to Trump: American elections can’t be rigged. Stop whining.

    This guy is all over the place as he always was. He has no center at all, a completely political animal. If he does have any kind of center, it’s hatred of Whites and Western Culture.

    He was planning on staying in Washington to guard his “legacy”. But Trump is so dynamic that no one is going to care what the cabana boy thinks anymore.

    • FincaInTheMountains December 16, 2016 at 5:09 pm #

      Oh, you wrong about that!

      Obama and built under his leadership system of FinControl is the only thing that stabilizes now the world financial system.

      I’m sure after official Trump inauguration (de facto he is already in full control), Obama will have a crucial role to play.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 16, 2016 at 7:58 pm #

        Is that the same as Fincaln? If not, please explain.

        • FincaInTheMountains December 17, 2016 at 12:20 pm #

          FinControl == Financial Control, a subsystem of NSA Echelon charged with tracing every financial transaction around the world and system of human analysts behind it.

          A few years ago, quite a few bankers came to their premature demise for breaking certain rules.

        • FincaInTheMountains December 17, 2016 at 12:24 pm #

          Without such control, current financial system overburdened with mountains of fake money printed by US, would crush just due to the greed of some players, triggering the crash of the entire system.

          No one wants that.

    • FincaInTheMountains December 16, 2016 at 5:19 pm #

      Remember, no one in the right mind wants the dollar pyramid to collapse uncontrollably – that would devastate the world worse than any war or terror. But it could collapse due to some greedy motherfucker-banker unsavory financial operation.

      Obama’s FinConrol keeping it all together.

    • Buck Stud December 16, 2016 at 11:28 pm #

      I agree with you that Trump is the political equivalent of a “force of Nature”. But if Trump is now a great gift to the GOP he MAY ultimately, be its demise. And why do I say that? Because those following in his footsteps will try and emulate that which cannot be emulated: There is only one Trump and those who try and imitate him will only look ridiculous and contrived.

      F Scott Fitzgerald put it best (and this applies to many facets of life, not just politics):

      “Begin with an individual, and before you know it you find that you have created a type; begin with a type, and you find that you have created–nothing.”

  130. pequiste December 16, 2016 at 4:49 pm #


    Barry O.’s press conference today was full of the “Russian hacking” issue.

    The presstitutes on “real news” TV are now round-the-clock involved in reporting on the Russian hacking-the-election issue. That and Aleppo.

    Blaming Russia’s president, Vladimir Putin, for personally leading the hacking program against the U.S. elections (and Aleppo as it happens;) now the FBI and CIA are confirming this.

    Are these people and organizations insane or just retarded?

    The government of the United States of America has spent trillions of military budget dollars expressly for “cyber-warfare” apart from personnel and traditional weapons systems. There’s even a four-star flag officer in charge.

    The military organisms are in addition to “civilian” cyber-warfare outfits which include NSA, CIA, NRO and a host of others.

    On top of all the governmental activity there are the monster computer technology and research companies, from IBM and Hewlett Packard to Google and Facebook. These companies have leading edge and intimate knowledge of cyber-warfare. Have their expertises not been taken advantage of by the government? If no, why not?

    Then there are the leading U.S. research universities – most of which are the best in the world: MIT, Cal Tech, Stanford etc. – or so the story goes. HAve they not been (t)asked by the government to help out in the age of cyber-warfare? If no, why the hell not?

    There is absolutely no excuse on earth (other than laziness, stupidity or treason) that any U.S. government, or affiliated system(s) should be getting hacked. People responsible need to be held accountable (hahahahaha.)

    After the press conference, Barry, Michele and the rest of the First Family’s retinue will be going to Hawaii for winter break. No one will be held accountable and nothing substantive will be done about it – well except for plenty hand wringing.

    But continue to piss off and insult Vlad Putin and whine about the hacking will be non-stop media fare until the next LeBron James or Kanye “K.S.c” West press conference.

    Edward Snowden and Julian Asange were & are right about all this.

    The Chinese must be choking on their dim-sum with laughter.

    • ozone December 17, 2016 at 8:38 am #

      Bill Binney also has a thing or two to say about the rank stupidity of this whole Russia-blaming crap if you want to follow those breadcrumbs. Here’s a collective memorandum on the “charges”:


      All we have to keep in mind is a simple query: Who benefits from the pursuit of Cold War v. 2.0, or even WWIII? Who are the colluding interests that pump the bellows of the Great Wurlitzer?

      I don’t intend to follow the majority of the population of the US (let’s just call them lazy-minded idiots, shall we?) into the dangerous fog of jingoism and comfortable lies. I’ll busy myself with other things while this country does its damnedest to commit societal suicide by ignoring important realities.

      (…And now Brexit is being blamed on the evil Russians ‘fixing’ the referendum vote. See? You *can* make this shit up!)

      BTW, a existential war with the Russians will end in a YUGE shock to the hubris-numbed polity of this country of fuckwitted thumb-twiddlers.

      • ozone December 17, 2016 at 9:22 am #

        Just to add: I really have no problem at all with the intelligence agencies and their handmaidens in the media outlets “workin’ hard” [tm Bush the Lesser] to destroy their few remaining shreds of credibility. Trust is tough to establish and a simple finger-snap to lose. I wish these assholes the hard times they’ve done so much to cruelly inflict on others via subterfuge and mendacity.

        • pequiste December 17, 2016 at 4:34 pm #


          With you completely on what you’ve said above.
          The Bill Binney link is clear and concise assessment of shituation.

          Of course NCAA football today and NFL football tomorrow is what is really on the minds of the average American (male.) And for the ladies (and gender dyphoria crew) Ellen’s next week’s guest line-up, the new shoes on sale at Macy’s, and Santa’s big day next weekend. With all that, now I can’t hardly control my own enthusiasm.

      • Q. Shtik December 17, 2016 at 4:03 pm #

        BTW, [a] existential war – Oz


  131. Janos Skorenzy December 16, 2016 at 9:39 pm #

    I don’t lik White people so I hate White snow!!!!!! FML!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


    Toldyas. When are you going to stop doubting me? I stand above you as a mountain stands above a Plain. I am the Source.

    • Buck Stud December 16, 2016 at 11:55 pm #

      The ‘snow is white’ assertion again and by none other than “The Source”–sigh.

      Is “white” in shadow the real white or is it the white in the light?

      And if the hue/color of white in the shadow differs from the white in light then we are talking about different hues, yes?

      “White” is actually a very reflective hue and “white snow” in shadow typically looks blue-gray(ish) because it reflects the blue of the sky. And the “white snow” in the light regions, especially at sunrise or sunset, often looks yellow/orange/red because of the direct light source–the Sun.

      So if you agree with me on the above–and how could you not; it’s an irrefutable visual truth–then you might ask in what other areas are your preconceptions/biases blinding you to empirical reality?

      I’m not trying to slam you Janos so anyway…look at the sky at certain stage of the sunset sometime…in the west it will look more yellow, to the south more orange and to the eastern horizon more red/purple.

      And of course, closest to the light source hue is washed out altogether: “white light: as they say.

      But first things first. Consider this post a lesson in “looking East” for the moment.

      • malthuss December 17, 2016 at 12:08 am #

        A painter should know the subtleties of light.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 17, 2016 at 3:21 pm #

        Color is the Crucifixion of Light, Buck. If you hate White Light, you will follow the lesser lights to rebirth as Tibetan Book of the Dead teaches.

        I loved the Snow as a boy and would meditate on it for hours. I remember one fine storm turn to rain and the utter despair I felt as the snow died. As I grew older, I began to hate it for all the trouble it caused, but luckily I was able to remember my First Love and hold onto it, thus saving my soul. I can see both points of view now simultaneously, but the first is deeper. Snow is an ambassador of Spirit to this fallen world, covering ever kind of ugliness and even muting harsh sounds to create an odd intimacy, even with strangers. Perhaps only a Son of the European North can see it this way, even though many Asian and Indian people live in very severe northern conditions.

        Amazingly, you feel closer to someone like Wes Bellamy. But it is your right to feel thus and you will given the opportunity to live with his people some day in time, when North America is rectified.

  132. janet December 16, 2016 at 10:24 pm #


    More than 670,000 people selected health insurance plans via the federally run exchange marketplaces, which serve people in 39 states through HealthCare.gov, President Barack Obama said Friday. It’s the biggest number of sign-ups in a single day since the exchanges debuted in 2013.


    The only better thing would be a single payer Medicare For All plan… though I doubt the new congress will pass a single player plan.

    So, Obamacare is here to stay. Another of Trump’s promises will be broken on Jan. 20th, 2017 when Obamacare continues … because no one, nobody, has anything better to replace it.

    It will be just like Brexit. Big vote to LEAVE in June 2016. Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty, which triggers two years of formal negotiations, has still not been invoked so the UK will not be out of the EU anytime soon.

    Same with Obamacare. The first day they will vote to repeal Obamacare… and it will mean nothing. Because Republicans have changed from “repeal and replace” to “repeal and delay”… because they don’t have a plan for healthcare and never did …

    Except for the Republican two-point health plan.

    Point One: Don’t get sick.

    Point Two: If you get sick, die quickly.

    • Frankiti December 17, 2016 at 9:20 am #

      WPACCC Asoka coward

  133. Janos Skorenzy December 16, 2016 at 10:39 pm #

    Amazon’s season two of “Man in the High Castle” is out. A story of a mythical future where the Nazis and Imperial Japanese won WW2 and divided America between them. Blacks, Jews, and Good (dumb) Whites have formed a large Resistance against them.

    • janet December 17, 2016 at 12:39 am #

      “Good (dumb) Whites have formed a large Resistance against them.” –janos

      So, whites are “dumb” if they fight against foreign aggressors who have taken over their homeland? You might want to rethink that in light of your past statements.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 17, 2016 at 3:29 pm #

        Yes, Whites should be fighting the Muslims in Europe. Good point.

  134. FincaInTheMountains December 17, 2016 at 3:18 am #

    A 12-year-old boy tried to blow up a bomb at a German Christmas market

    BERLIN (Reuters) – A 12-year old German-Iraqi boy tried to detonate a bomb at a Christmas market in the western town of Ludwigshafen last month and planted another explosive device near the town hall a couple of days later, German prosecutors said on Friday.


    It is now known that the child is “radically religious”. According to unconfirmed information, he is a follower of ISIS.

    Lately terrorists increasingly are recruiting children and it is planned to send them en masse to Europe, to commit terrorist acts. Europe is not ready yet for such developments.

    • malthuss December 18, 2016 at 2:18 am #

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  135. FincaInTheMountains December 17, 2016 at 3:25 am #

    Fakenews: a trifle, but nice

    British Foreign Secretary, aka “Boris”, called the Russian Ambassador to the UK and handed him a note in a very neat folder.

    The note was a demand to ensure the safety of the ISIS militants in the city of Aleppo, and the Russian ambassador, glancing briefly at the note, took it from folder, neatly folded, and looking into the eyes of Boris, put a note in the back pocket of his pants and handed back the folder.

  136. FincaInTheMountains December 17, 2016 at 8:49 am #

    Aleppo – Palmyra: Russia: 10 – US: 3

    Brilliantly conducted Palmyra operation no doubt with participation of US General Staff and Special Forces.

    The guarantees were given to ISIS forces defending Raqqa that no US advance will take place, so they could secretly relocated a group of 4 thousand bayonets from under Raqqa 200 klicks to Palmira under the cover of sand storm.

    Russian intelligence in Syria flopped face down in mud.

  137. Frankiti December 17, 2016 at 9:18 am #

    I had a subscription to National Geographic for most of my childhood. I saved most, if not all, of the issues in cardboard boxes. Civilizations of man and animal frequented its cover. It seldom lowered itself into the tawdry world of politics. Another institution falls however.

    “National Geographic editor-in-chief Susan Goldberg said that the both the upcoming issue of the magazine and the documentary are an attempt to tell the stories of transgender people that might not necessarily get widespread coverage otherwise.”

    Widespread coverage. National Geographic gone gauche.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 17, 2016 at 3:52 pm #

      That’s what happens when you let the Goldbergs get control. Another Goldberg corrupted the Sierra Club by offereing them a huge bribe never to talk about the negative effects of immigration. They took it and lost all relevance. The Goldbergs destroy institutions and ultimately, whole societies.

      • malthuss December 18, 2016 at 2:03 am #

        Goldberg or Gelbaum?

    • pequiste December 17, 2016 at 4:15 pm #

      I myself wonder why National Geographic, even under the control of Gold(berg)stein, would choose to fall under the hysteria / hypnosis of the LBGTQ force? Maybe Ms. Gold(berg)stein is LBGTQ her/his/itself and needs to share with everyone the wonders and benefits of gender dysphoria. For those interested in the cover story:


      I much preferred the National Geographic of yore, for true anthropological in-the-field investigations; particularly when it had near-naked aboriginal savages from darkest Africa – the kind with yuge lip saucers, neck stretchers and penile, ahem, enhancers.
      The kind of freakish natural Human behaviour I can trust for being authentic.

      • Frankiti December 17, 2016 at 7:11 pm #

        I suppose the point was that Nat Geo never saw its purpose as to give widespread coverage to such things. NatGeo has sullied itself with its choice of coverage and programs recently. What a pity.

        • malthuss December 18, 2016 at 2:05 am #

          ((( )))

  138. messianicdruid December 17, 2016 at 11:12 am #

    Can you recognize projection?

    “This leaves us wondering if there is more than just an Obama disinformation campaign being perpetuated against the American people, and if the Obama administration is deliberately attempt to distract the public from the bombshell that Georgia Secretary of State, Brian Kemp, dropped last week when he publicly revealed that the Obama’s Department of homeland Security conducted 10 separate cyberattacks on their election database.

    The Georgia Secretary of State’s Office now confirms 10 separate cyberattacks on its network were all traced back to U.S. Department of Homeland Security addresses.

    In an exclusive interview, a visibly frustrated Secretary of State Brian Kemp confirmed the attacks of different levels on his agency’s network over the last 10 months. He says they all traced back to DHS internet provider addresses.

    It was also confirmed yesterday that both West Virginia and Kentucky were attacked by DHS IP addresses as well, as reported by WSB TV in Atlanta…

    While Barack Obama is attempting to distract the nation with claims of “Russian interference,” which his administration cannot even provide the House Intel Committee with proof of, the politicized DHS has been caught red-handed trying to hack into at least three states election databases.

    That is what the should be investigated by Congress because the leaked emails sent to Wikileaks came from within, and there is every indication that Russia wasn’t the ones who tried to “hack” the election, but the Obama administration unsuccessfully tried to hack it and when that did not work, they moved on to plan B,  which is an attempt to overturn the results.”

    • messianicdruid December 17, 2016 at 12:04 pm #

      “Look, who had an incentive to prevent Mrs. Clinton from becoming President of the United States? Whose agents had their real identities and locations exposed by the reckless manner? … Who had access to all of this material without having to steal any codes?

      “The United States Intelligence agents,” the judge answered himself, “who did not want this woman in charge of the federal government and exposing more agents and resources and undercover assets in the Middle East to who they truly are and where they were.”


      • FincaInTheMountains December 17, 2016 at 12:14 pm #

        Judge confirms my assertions that Hillary exposed the identity of almost entire US intelligence network in the ME, causing the painful death of some of them from the hands of ISIS.


  139. FincaInTheMountains December 17, 2016 at 12:00 pm #

    A flying monkey in convulsions


  140. volodya December 17, 2016 at 12:24 pm #

    As no less an eminence than Mark Shields has said, the Democrats piss away too much time LGBTQ which is 5% of the population. They are making themselves a marginal party. They quack endlessly about racism, sexism, Islamopohobia or whatever the phobia du jour is. Huge numbers of people who have got work and paycheck worries, including the objects of purported racism, sexism etc. tune the Democrats out.

    Democrats refuse to see what cost them the election. It was the candidate. It was what they talk about. It was about who they take money from and who they protect. No need to invoke Russian bogeymen or plagues of locusts.

    • thwack December 17, 2016 at 1:11 pm #

      “Democrats refuse to see what cost them the election.”



      For example,

      large numbers of ordinary, everyday, working class African Americans OPPOSE illegal immigration; but the White/Jew Democrat power structure censors out their voices (especially on liberal talk radio/nooz) so the average person thinks black opposition to illegal immigration is limited to some small fringe group of kooky black Republican “sellouts” and house ni66ers…

      I know its counter intuitive for many of you, but the left in general, and Democrats in particular are very intolerant; unlike the Right, they won’t allow you to “win the crowd” with spirited support and defense of your position…

      As soon as they get the sense a black person is straying off the “plantation”; they cut your mic and escort you from the room….

      The Left works hard to make sure ni66ers try to change everything but themselves.


      • nsa December 17, 2016 at 3:13 pm #

        35 million Afros are not as useful to the vile traitorous D filth as 100 million (and growing rapidly) Hispanics…..it’s that simple.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 17, 2016 at 3:27 pm #

        You can’t change yourselves. Only a few individuals can. You could or have, but like most, you still identify with the mass instead of becoming free like Clarence Thomas, Reverend Manning, or Dr Carson.

        Your race is one of the lowest, but that doesn’t mean you have to be. This is the compassionate approach the authors of “The Bell Curve” took. But obviously, no one is interested.

      • Janos Skorenzy December 17, 2016 at 3:35 pm #

        Yet, you all still vote Democrat, thus fulfilling Johnson’s curse: I’ll have those niggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years.

        You’re overestimating the numbers of intelligent and responsible Blacks. And remember, even you are dominated by hatred. And the Democrats are the Party of hating Whites. Even if it’s in your best interest not to be Democrat, you find it hard to resist because you hate us. Between that, EBT, and free phones, they own y’all.

  141. messianicdruid December 17, 2016 at 3:21 pm #

    thwack says, “the reason Janos’ logic is confusing is because he keeps switching between “White” and “Caucasian”; WITHOUT providing a definition of “White.””

    Why do you need a definition of “white” from janos?

    “The reason he can’t define “white” is because RACISM = WHITE SUPREMACY.”

    Your definition leaves out the racism of other “supremacists” = unworkable.

    “In other words, he can’t define “white” without PRACTICING racism; which is why he doesn’t want to define it. Janos may be a knuckle head, but even he is smart enough to know that if people find out “white” is whatever the hell he DECIDES it is; they will reject, not only his definition of “white” but the very CONCEPT of white itself.”

    Are you trying to tell me that if I say I’m white, I’m a racist, but if I say I’m a caucausian, I’m not, or do you simply have it in for janos.

    • Janos Skorenzy December 17, 2016 at 3:46 pm #

      To review: Whites are Northern Caucasians. And to logically complete this: Caucasians are Southern Whites. Official Anthropology has blurred the lines for political purposes, just calling us all Caucasian. But even though we are cousins, the cultural differences between us are huge. In general, we feel closer to East Asians at this point. Of course, the National Socialist Hindus are cool, but colonialism has dampened good relations with such people and its memory lingers on.

      I’m not shifting my ground rapidly to create confusion – that is what Thwack is doing. I have stated my grounds very clearly whereas he states we don’t exist.

      I have no problem with being a racist, or putting my people first. And as for “Supremacy” – we don’t want it any more. We are better in some ways than other races, and not in other ways.

      Another simpler definition: Whites are the native people of Europe. Thwack wants them gone, as do the Jews and Liberals. So he has adopted their cognitive type tactics of attack. Of course, race is fuzzy, be it the White race or any other. There are transitional types – like Charles Bronson with his obvious Central Asian blood. Melania has a touch as well. But because it’s fuzzy and there are transitional types, that means it doesn’t exist? Is that logical? No. Color is also fuzzy, on a spectrum, red becoming pink on one end purple on the other. Does that mean red doesn’t exist?

      Think Thwack, think.

      • thwack December 17, 2016 at 5:55 pm #

        There are transitional types – like Charles Bronson with his obvious Central Asian blood. Melania has a touch as well.


        “transitional types?”


        Are they “coming”



        • Janos Skorenzy December 17, 2016 at 8:06 pm #

          That might have gotten a chuckle at a comedy open mic if you told it well. But humor is not an argument. And getting people to laugh doesn’t make it so.

          Try to conduct yourself like a gentleman, if you can that is.

          • thwack December 18, 2016 at 8:20 am #

            If I behave like a gentleman will that make me a gentleman?

          • Janos Skorenzy December 18, 2016 at 3:55 pm #

            It might – the old fake it till you make it principle. From a Platonic perspective, the gentleman is already inside you and by “faking” it, you are actually chipping away all the “not gentleman” until he stands revealed. Of course you have to be sincere in your motivation just like anything else. If you are just trying to fool people, then you are right – it’s just window dressing. And that would be true if you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth as well.

          • thwack December 18, 2016 at 7:17 pm #

            If I behave like a white man will that make me a white man?

          • Janos Skorenzy December 18, 2016 at 9:40 pm #

            Traditional Mormon Doctrine held that Blacks would become more “lightsome” as their character improved with the help of Grace. As you know, a curse was put on Ham with Black skin as the mark of it.

            Just reporting this, don’t know if it’s true. Look at Clarence Thomas, he’s a good one but he’s still very dark.

          • thwack December 18, 2016 at 10:22 pm #

            You didn’t answer the question.

    • thwack December 17, 2016 at 4:11 pm #

      (thwack studies chess board…)

      (looks up and says:)


      are you a white person?

      • messianicdruid December 17, 2016 at 4:45 pm #

        Not so fast… This isn’t a contest. You don’t get to ask all the questions.

        Why do you need a definition of “white” from janos?

        Are you trying to tell me that if I say I’m white, I’m a racist, but if I say I’m a caucausian, I’m not, or do you simply have it in for janos.

        Why purpose would be served by a declaration of ethnicity from me?

        • thwack December 17, 2016 at 5:49 pm #

          WhAT purpose would be served by a declaration of ethnicity from me?


          (thwack notes deflection, and grabs his bishop:)


          do you know


          if you are a white person?


          • Janos Skorenzy December 17, 2016 at 8:10 pm #

            White is right,
            Blacks is whack.

            Thwack is Black
            Thwack is whack

            This is an extended version of the syllogism.

          • messianicdruid December 17, 2016 at 9:41 pm #

            Of course. I am simply leery [ weary ] of labels, categories and pigeon-holing.

            Your definition is still unworkable; even self-serving.

          • thwack December 18, 2016 at 8:15 am #

            Of course. I am simply leery [ weary ] of labels, categories and pigeon-holing. — messianicdruid



            Are you a man?

          • messianicdruid December 18, 2016 at 10:03 am #

            Man is as man does. Aw-dawm = blushes red [ to show blood in the face ].

            Is there an answer in our future?

          • thwack December 18, 2016 at 10:10 am #


            are you a white man?

          • messianicdruid December 18, 2016 at 2:10 pm #

            “Are you a white man?”

            That is redundant. An aw-dawm [ man ] includes both genders. I am a man without a womb, my wife is a wo-man.

          • thwack December 18, 2016 at 2:26 pm #


            Are you a Druid?

          • messianicdruid December 18, 2016 at 8:14 pm #

            dru – id = oak knowledge

            The Druids revered the oak because it is the most useful of trees. It served man in life and death.

            Knowledge of the Messiah is useful in the same way.

          • thwack December 18, 2016 at 10:26 pm #

            Did they hang people from oak trees?

          • messianicdruid December 19, 2016 at 12:28 am #

            I think we’re done here.

  142. messianicdruid December 17, 2016 at 3:36 pm #

    “As soon as they get the sense a black person is straying off the “plantation”; they cut your mic and escort you from the room….”

    This is not limited to black persons. I can think of several good people whose conscience forced them to speak out, and were silenced. Sometimes “the room” is being among the living.

  143. FincaInTheMountains December 17, 2016 at 3:44 pm #

    Clintonoids of both parties continue to inflate campaign about Russian hackers, who brought victory to Trump, as if really hoping that the electors will vote for Hillary on Monday in spite of the vote in the state, and the louder they scream about the role of Russian hackers, the more Putin’s popularity grows in the United States.

    Something is utterly irrational even from the point of view of political cynicism. In my opinion, the Clintonoids just went bonkers, and not only literally but figuratively.

    • janet December 17, 2016 at 4:36 pm #

      Finca, I am a Clintonoid. It would be entirely appropriate for the electors to exercise independent judgement and elect Hillary next Monday … but I doubt that will happen. If you like your president-elect, you can keep your president-elect.

  144. jim e December 17, 2016 at 7:10 pm #

    Thwack, have you seen Rico?

    • malthuss December 18, 2016 at 2:06 am #

      Puerto Rico?

    • thwack December 18, 2016 at 8:10 am #


  145. pequiste December 17, 2016 at 7:43 pm #

    De natives be sho’ nuff selibraytin Trumpxuberantly over in Chicago-town (y’all know Barry O. be a homeboy and BFF Rahm Emmanuel runs da joint as da mayor:)


    However, Black Lives Matter will not be seen or heard from about any of this; neither will any of the usual suspects, including Rev. Jesse Jackson, or America’s current favourite charlatan and grifter-in-charge: The Reverend Al “Race Card” Sharpton.

    They will be blaming the violence on both Donald Trump AND Vlad Putin. It’s a package deal now.

    • BackRowHeckler December 17, 2016 at 8:29 pm #

      Hey P, over 3500 shot, 691 dead, in Chicago so far this year, not including 4 more today. 700 seems attainable, despite 1dC temp. in the city tomorrow.

      Its odd, when the MSM are doing these ass-sucking ‘LEGACY’ interviews with Obama, carnage in Chicago is never mentioned. Neither are the bloody, grim images coming out of Aleppo every day, the Stalingrad of the 21st century.

      That’s not part of the ‘LEGACY’.


  146. sprawlcapital December 17, 2016 at 8:19 pm #

    The Butcher’s Bill of 1816: Europe’s Blood-Drenched Year of Horror

    A century ago. Europe was busy killing itself–a nightmare we still live with today.

    Tomorrow, December 18, is the 100th anniversary of the end of the Battle of Verdun, which resulted in the deaths of more than 260,000 soldiers (combined French and German deaths). The Battle of Verdun started on February 21, 1916. For comparison, US deaths in Vietnam were around 55,000 over more than a decade.

    There were other very costly battles in 1916: The Somme; battles on the Austrian-Italian front; battles on the eastern (Russian) front.

    As a nation we spend a more than a trillion dollars every 24 months on our military, more than any other nation. One would think that military history would be a very important topic of civic discourse among our people, to help assure that mistakes of the past are not repeated. Yet I have observed nearly total media silence about events 100 years ago, in World War I.

    Could it be the Military-Industrial Complex does not want us to dwell on the atrocious events that were happening in Europe100 years ago, as such informed thinking would be bad for their business?

    • sprawlcapital December 17, 2016 at 8:20 pm #

      The Butcher’s Bill of [1916]

      • BackRowHeckler December 17, 2016 at 8:34 pm #

        The US had about 50,000 combat deaths in WW1, including my great uncle at the battle of Seicheprey, April 20, 1918.

        Another 50,000 died from the flu, accidents, and other assorted illnesses, including blood poisoning.


  147. FincaInTheMountains December 17, 2016 at 8:40 pm #

    Finca, I am a Clintonoid. — Janet

    The most interesting is that the victory to Trump brought those states that traditionally vote for Democrats, but where during the primaries won Bernie Sanders. That is where Hillary Clinton obviously has no control over the polling stations and election commissions. And in these areas for Trump voted the very followers of Bernie Sanders, who in 2008 and 2012 unanimously voted for Barack Obama.

    In fact the last time the Republicans won in Wisconsin was in 1984, in Michigan and Pennsylvania in 1988, in Minnesota in 1972. Nevertheless, in 2016, all these states voted for Trump in spite of the fact that the big cities Hillary attributed to herself by hundreds of thousands of votes.

    And for me personally, it means that Sanders followers have really realized that the Sanders’ social policy + Foreign Policy of Hillary Clinton = National Socialism of Adolf Schicklgruber (Hitler).

  148. FincaInTheMountains December 18, 2016 at 5:03 am #

    For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open

    I just finished watching on the third Russian channel the brilliant Soviet film “Seventeen Moments of Spring” (1973), the action of which ends on March 24, 1945, after the Soviet spy Stirlitz on the instructions of Moscow successfully disrupted the negotiations between commander of the Waffen-SS General Wolf and the future CIA director Allen Dulles, which even the US President Roosevelt was not aware of, and was very surprised, unpleasantly surprised to receive a corresponding note from Josef Stalin.

    The most interesting thing is that the staff of the department, which during the war was led by Allen Dulles, was located in the Rockefeller Center, kindly provided to the organization by close Foster-Dulles family friend and the biological father of Bill Clinton, David Rockefeller.

    So Stirlitz thought in vain that he managed to tear down American negotiations with Waffen-SS, returning to Berlin into the arms of Gestapo’s Mueller, as in fact in two weeks, US President Franklin Delano Roosevelt suddenly died from a very strange stroke, and the Office of Strategic Services (OSS), in which Dulles served during the war begins forming a Nazi army from prisoners of war in Denmark for joint military action against the Soviet Union.

    Only the speed of the Soviet advance towards Berlin and the Reichstag did not allow the United States to end the Second World as an ally of Hitler’s Germany.


    • FincaInTheMountains December 18, 2016 at 7:26 am #

      Operation Sunrise (World War II)

      Operation Sunrise was depicted in the Soviet TV series Seventeen Moments of Spring, where it was called “Operation Sunrise Crossword”.


      CIA from its formation out of OSS was very pro-Nazi – and still is.

  149. elysianfield December 18, 2016 at 12:23 pm #

    Benign Canine (B9K9) has outed me as a “fringe thinking, unhinged fanatic troll, who is disenfranchised from common sense”. I, however, have found a “fellow traveler”, Dr. Paul Craig Roberts, whose Blog of this date, outlines the very issues I presented earlier;


    There are now, by his count, 62 electors who are calling for a briefing…62….

    • janet December 18, 2016 at 3:55 pm #

      Paul Craig Roberts (PCR) is a paranoide Reaganite still fighting the cold war and taking irrational fringe positions because of his paranoia about gun control.

      PCR refuses to believe the 2012 Sandy Hook Elementary School attack even happened. PCR thinks the 2015 Charlie Hebdo attack was executed by the U.S. government to punish France for its independent foreign policy.

      PCR see “false flag” operations everywhere to justify gun control legislation (though no gun control ever happened on Bush’s or Obama’s watch). In other words, the dude is in heavy denial of reality.

  150. janet December 18, 2016 at 4:20 pm #

    “Well Cold, You know as well as I do that trump has never been in physical danger in his life.” –Capt.Spaulding

    Paul Craig Roberts says Treasonous Traitor Trump is in danger of being assassinated “by a “lone nut” patriot” for whatever PCR’s words are worth.

    When Trump publicly called on Russia to hack Hillary Clinton’s emails that was “tantamount to treason” and directly caused Russia to conduct more cyber-espionage against the U.S. than it was already doing. Both the CIA and the FBI are in agreement about that.

    Trump is a threat to national security. So PCR’s lone patriot theory might mean Trump is in physical danger of being assassinated.

  151. Janos Skorenzy December 18, 2016 at 4:49 pm #


    He made a joke youtube on how to get free money by sending an email to Obama and asking him for some. He was amazed at the angry responses from Blacks when it didn’t work.

    But are they really that stupid? Whites give them money all the time and it comes through the mail. Who is more stupid, them or the Whites who give it to them?

  152. FincaInTheMountains December 18, 2016 at 4:56 pm #

    There are now, by his count, 62 electors who are calling for a briefing…62…. — elysianfield

    Suggestion that 62 “dishonest” electors will be able to send man who won the election to ride past the White House against the will of the people who elected him , is too stupid even for American journalists.

    In fact, if you remember, before the start of the election campaign 4000 delegates of the Republican convention in unison shouting “lock her up!” at every mention of Hillary Clinton name, and members of the National Rifle Association in unison reminded that the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution guarantees Americans the right to establish not only a well-organized, but very well armed militia to overthrow the usurper and tyrant.

    • janet December 18, 2016 at 5:07 pm #

      I think PCR’s point is that Putin’s Puppet is not safe from “2nd amendment remedies.”

      • FincaInTheMountains December 18, 2016 at 6:22 pm #

        O, ho, ho – bunch of pedophiles and sodomites against the Hell Angel bickers and US Army veterans? That would be a spectacle to behold

        • pequiste December 18, 2016 at 6:33 pm #

          Your suggestion Finc, sounds rather like Key West during Fantasy Fest.

    • elysianfield December 18, 2016 at 5:10 pm #

      Why would any of the 62 electors require a briefing, and to what end?

      • janet December 18, 2016 at 5:45 pm #

        Evidence is often classified. Only those who receive a briefing can see the evidence, people like John McCain. John McCain has seen the evidence of Trump’s treason and is furious at Trump’s traitorous behavior subverting American democracy.

        The 62 electors cannot cast an informed vote without a briefing on the evidence of Trump’s treason.

        • elysianfield December 18, 2016 at 5:49 pm #

          TO WHAT END an informed vote? Spit it out!

  153. Janos Skorenzy December 18, 2016 at 5:06 pm #


    Ready for nasty weather? Ready to ride or at least wait it out?

    • janet December 18, 2016 at 5:07 pm #

      I think PCR’s point is that Putin’s Puppet is not safe from “2nd amendment remedies.”

      • elysianfield December 18, 2016 at 5:21 pm #

        PCR’s point is thus;

        “…Something is happening here, and you don’t know what it is…do you, Mr. Jones?”

        Ballad of a Thin Man- Bob Dylan

        Well, Janet? PCR is describing Democratic Party options, and other potential scenarios, ranging from discrediting the new Administration to the kinetic.

  154. Janos Skorenzy December 18, 2016 at 5:34 pm #

    Sacrifice is the basis of moral life and makes Civilization possible – or even tribal or group life. Thus the alpha male baboons will sacrifice themselves for the troop against the leopard. More recently and humanly, Churches demanded the tithe or one tenth of their member’s income for maintenance of the disabled. Needless to say, we wouldn’t have even taken North America from the Indians with the kind of Libertarian mindset the author espouses. Individualism is weakness, insuring that life is nasty, brutal, and short. But what about successful individuals? They are piggybacking off the real Culture. Once too many do this, or that culture as a whole accepts such parasitism as the essence of virtue, then you can be assured that the End is Near. That is where we are now.

    • janet December 18, 2016 at 5:58 pm #

      “or that culture as a whole accepts such parasitism as the essence of virtue”

      That is what tax avoidance and tax evasion are: parasitism. “Let the other poor schmucks pay. I’ll pay as little as possible because I am a parasite.” That is the essence of conservative libertarian Republican individualism.

      It doesn’t matter whether tax avoidance is legal or whether tax evasion is illegal. Both have the same aim: perpetuate parasitism of individuals who do not believe in government and want to shrink government and drown it in a bathtub.

  155. janet December 18, 2016 at 5:51 pm #

    “…Something is happening here, and you don’t know what it is…do you, Mr. Jones?” –elysianfield

    I think we all know what is happening.

  156. FincaInTheMountains December 18, 2016 at 6:32 pm #



    Pay attention to motorcycles with a flag: one flag – the lieutenant platoon commander two – battalion, three – the regiment.

    A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, shall not be infringed.

  157. nsa December 18, 2016 at 7:49 pm #

    Our CIA friends over in Langley are now reporting the Denver Broncos lost today because the Russians on direct orders from Putin hacked the scoreboard……a do-over is now mandatory in the interest of fairness and democracy and freedom and our precious way of life. The FBI concurs and is reporting the Patriot coach is an unwitting Putin tool and puppet. This is an outrage…..how many more scoreboards must be hacked by them Russkies before we retaliate?

    • BackRowHeckler December 18, 2016 at 8:28 pm #

      Hey NSA, under this current admin., did you ever hack into any Russian computers? Or is it they only hack into American computers, and we here in the USA are completely blameless.

      I notice the lefties who are worried about Trump and Putin had no problem when Obama was kissing up to Fidel Castro, and his brother Rauol. That was called superb statesmanship.


      • nsa December 18, 2016 at 10:27 pm #

        We here in Ft. Meade gather info only…..every phone call, text message, internet key stroke. The other alphabet soup agencies do the proactive stuff…….DIA, CIA, OIA, OIC, BIR, ONI, MCIA, etc. Notice the FBI is not included…..they would have trouble hacking a Pacman game loaded on a Radio Shack TRS-80.

  158. Buck Stud December 18, 2016 at 11:02 pm #

    The other day I was watching one of those asbestos/mesothelioma lawyer settlement commercials and I began to think back on all the things I have done in my life that have exposed me to asbestos. Certainly doing remodeling on older homes and changing brakes on cars exposed me to not small amounts.

    And then there were those summers in high school when I worked as a hod carrier for a masonry company. I would build scaffold, wheel wheelbarrows, and carry stacked bricks up steep ladders on to roofs where they were stacked for the bricklayers to complete fireplace chimneys.

    And I also mixed the bricklaying “mud” by hoisting fifty pound bags of masonry cement up onto a sharp implement on the mixer which ripped the bag and allowed the cement to fall down into the water and sand tumbling around the mixer below. And that cloud of masonry cement dust that I inhaled and blew out of a clogged nose day after was apparently chock full of asbestos.

    It was the hardest work I ever did and really drove home the point of seeking to educate one’s self. But that same mental impetus that seeks out education also spurs one to look where there is no point. After all, some things are better off not knowing well after the fact.

    On the other hand, as the saying goes, a person is going to feel pretty stupid lying in their grave, ‘dead from nothing’.

    • BackRowHeckler December 18, 2016 at 11:28 pm #

      Hey Buck maybe you can get in on the law suit!

      Just joking.

      TV advertising is getting pretty lame; lawyers trolling for victims, mattresses, prescription medications, commercials for cars nobody can afford anymore, and vacuum cleaners. That’s about it. The action seems to have moved over to social media. What it comes down to is advertisers don’t think there’ll be much of a return on pitching products to unemployed people watching Jerry Springer in the middle of the day.


    • thwack December 18, 2016 at 11:56 pm #

      and carry stacked bricks up steep ladders on to roofs where they were stacked for the bricklayers to complete fireplace chimneys.


      I won’t say you are lucky you never got hurt; but in some ways you are.

      This is my one complaint about working with women; they have simply not held enough of those jobs where if you don’t pay attention, and think critically before you act, YOU, get killed or seriously injured…

      This is why they argue and challenge so much when its time to get something DONE.

      After a while I learned to say: “OK, fine, lets do it your way, you can always call somebody later and pay them to “unfuckit” for you.

    • stelmosfire December 19, 2016 at 7:17 am #

      Buck, that asbestos shit is way overblown. Sure if you did major steam work or worked in an asbestos mine the clouds of fibers were unbelievable and certainly were dangerous. The lawers are all over this shit for MONEY. Lead paint the same thing, We all grew up with it. If not for chewing the windowsills as a child I would be too fu!!ing smart for my britches. I predict Fiberglass insulation will be the the next scare. Did you ever read the label? And Arsenic pressure treated wood, made for years and on millions of decks throughout America. The arsenic leaches into the soil. That soil will need to be removed and sequesterd when you sell your house, Just my predictions for the legal carpetbaggers.


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