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One thing you could say about the three Trump campaign lawyers’ joint press conference at high noon, Thursday: it sure wasn’t slick. But then, are we now such a nation of lobotomized chumps that our chief criteria for any public acting-out of an acute national melodrama is slickness of presentation? I guess we like our crises fluffed, like a Caitlyn Jenner spot on The View. This one, though, is raw and savage.

And so there stood Rudy Giuliani in that cramped briefing room, with dark rivulets running down both temples as if he were sweating blood (more likely, hair dye), cracking jokes at times, and laying out some rather harsh predicates for pending election fraud lawsuits. Next up, the usually demure Sidney Powell appeared boiling over with grief and rage at the hijacking of American democracy, and the Deep State’s long-running connivance with all that, yielding nearly to tears at moments as she sketched out the sinister history and associations of the Dominion and Smartmatic vote systems — and the utter failure of public officialdom to monitor any of it for many years. Then Jenna Ellis, much in command of herself, emphasized perhaps half a dozen times, and quite sternly for the obdurately seditious news media, that the actual evidence would be revealed in court and that the day’s presentation was a mere overview. Got that? In court.

The news media didn’t get the message — on purpose, as usual — and so the stories flew all over the Internet’s gaslit echo chambers that the three lawyers failed to make a case. Later that night, Tucker Carlson piled on Sidney Powell for not sharing what she intends to present in a court of law. Apparently, she hung up the phone on him. Let’s face it, the lady has had a hard month, and a hard year, having to battle the malevolent and depraved Judge Emmet Sullivan over the dismissal of the case against General Flynn (as ordered by the DOJ), and now this colossal hairball of a momentous and historic election fraud case. (If I were her, I’d be deep into the George Dickel No. 12 Sour Mash by eight o’clock that night, Tucker Time.)

All right then, Mr. Trump’s lawyers have set the table for this epic political food-fight with just a few weeks to file and proceed, and we’ll have to stand by like grownups and see how it all plays out in the courts. There may be other sideshows and shenanigans in the various state legislatures over electoral college slates and such, along the way, but meanwhile I want to remind you that there are many other layers in this burgeoning mega-crisis worth being mindful of.

One, of course, is the train of tyranny that would follow the crooked and demented Ol’ White Joe Biden into power, should he manage to be sworn in (more on that below). From the actions so far of his, ahem, transition team, Mr. Biden (or the shadowy gang behind him) is aiming to bring on an official regime of speech suppression, news suppression, cancel culture, race hustling, gender warfare, and other portfolios of Wokesterism to the federal agencies. Do you have any idea how much anger and opposition that will provoke? Do you suppose that half the population will sit still for struggle sessions over white privilege?

Another layer is the Deep State itself. This evil empire is close to prevailing in a final act of sedition after four years of contemptible, serial intrigues. The Justice Department, the FBI, the CIA and all the other spook agencies will have a free hand in surveilling US citizens and attempting to control whatever they do. The whole RussiaGate case (such as it might be under John Durham) will get towed out to sea and dropped overboard in cement slippers. Comey, Brennan, Clapper, McCabe, Strzok, Gina Haspel, Andrew Weissmann, and the rest of the gang will all skate — some of them possibly pirouetting back into federal offices. Facebook, Twitter, and Google will be enlisted as social controllers (this has already happened, of course) to guard against the sharing of undesirable information. Gawd knows what sort of misadventures in foreign lands this gang will blunder into. I won’t even bother to outline the possible economic perversities and experiments the new regime might attempt to try because of the following…

…which is the king-hell financial fiasco that will attend a Joe Biden presidency and the monumental unwind of activity that will present as implacable depression. The global banking system is ten-months pregnant with Rosemary’s Baby. The Covid-19 winter lockdowns will put a bullet in the brain of any remaining small businesses, and the giant zombie companies are next to fall. Rent, mortgage, and loan forbearances run out in December. If they are not renewed, many families stand to lose their homes; if they are extended, many creditors and landlords will be screwed, unable to meet their own obligations. Few in the media or in officialdom seem to comprehend that unpaid debts thunder through the system, and eventually undermine the whole system, especially the currencies that circulate like the system’s blood supply. Not only will there be no money for Progressive economic experiments, there will not be enough money to arrest the fast-sinking standard of living in America. Biden & Company, so triumphal in these days of dwindling daylight, are in for shock with 2021.

In the looking-less-likely event that Mr. Trump prevails in this election quarrel, he and his people will be subject to exactly the same thing, which is the onset of the epic crisis or “fourth turning” that I call the long emergency. It will include an additional layer of Antifa/BLM anarchy in the streets on top of epochal economic hard times. How America manages to emerge from that will be the $64-trillion question of the ages. Neo-feudalism, a dark age, a new stone age… who knows…?

As a kind of PS, and per what I mentioned above, there are the lingering questions as to whether Ol’ White Joe Biden can manage to make it to the inaugural podium in any case. Apart from his failing mental faculties, there are the matters around his and his family’s shady business dealings in foreign lands over recent years, especially the money garnered from ventures in China linked to China’s intel services. There are legitimate concerns about Mr. Biden being a security risk as president. They are not going away.

Finally, a few words of encouragement to those of you almost terminally disgusted with the dishonesty and bad faith of the people who have been running things in our country: this is not a place like Russia in 1989. The Soviet overlords had a captive press, of course, but the Internet was barely a larval presence in world culture then. All the Russian people had to fight the immersive milieu of lies they lived in was the mimeograph machine and the verbal grapevine. We have much better resources for distributing information in America today, despite our tribulations with the corporate news media and their Silicon Valley cadres. We have a pretty sturdy alt-news network and many diligent entrepreneurial reporters who are able to get the news out. It will get out, and it pays to remember that truth has Godly powers of its own.

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675 Responses to “The Many Layers of Travail”

  1. Pucker November 20, 2020 at 9:27 am #

    It’s a Power Struggle.

    Apparently, the CI..A program for manipulating elections is called “Hammer & Scorecard”. Where do they come up with these names? These useless bureaucrats in Washington, DC really should get real jobs and do something useful and productive. Start a garden, or brew beer. Hell, even grow some Weed, at least that meets a real demand. Don’t spend your time lying and driving the country into the ground in order to create a dystopia which is “inclusive” and “diverse” but the poor people get paid nothing, have zero health insurance, huge student debts, stand in food lines, and watch MSM weirdo’s lie all day. It’s creepy.


    • malthuss November 20, 2020 at 9:40 am #

      Huge student debt, no one forced someone to take the money.

      • MC Hammerabi November 20, 2020 at 9:53 am #

        @malthuss – that’s a two-way street. No one forced creditors to make 6 figure loans to 20 year olds. The crookedness is not allowing the debt to be resolved in bankruptcy or default.

        • Beryl of Oyl November 20, 2020 at 10:01 am #

          You beat me to it, MC.
          There is something unusual in the way the student loan debt is for life.

          When I talk to individuals who are in this situation, I come away with the POV that they have been victimized by outside forces.

          Joe Biden was one of the major players in the student loan debt scam, btw.
          It was bi-partisan, which in case anyone doesn’t know by now, means “screw the people”.

          The Tea Party and the Occupiers were on the same side, but they weren’t allowed to know it.

        • feralandroid November 20, 2020 at 11:50 am #

          Most of college debt is held by women (and their parents).

          Its actually just another tax on men to pay off the spending of women. Women thought they could take out all these loans, get awesome degrees, get amazing jobs and earn as much as men. But they didn’t realize that they would actually have to work as hard as men and forgo families.

          Its was really a feminist lie.

        • Tate November 20, 2020 at 1:29 pm #

          >>No one forced creditors to make 6 figure loans to 20 year olds.<<

          You don't have to force a party to do something that benefits them. When these loans benefit one party but not the other, look to asymmetry of knowledge. Call it adhesion contract, leonine contract, unconscienable lending, whatever. The grift lies in promoting that the same number of black-studies majors can be cranked out as engineering majors & society will be just as well off. When the job market says otherwise, the piper comes calling. When financial & lawmaking vultures team up to decimate a generation, there's going to be trouble. When's there's trouble there has to be a scapegoat. When "privilege" is assigned with skin color by the geniuses who trained the black-studies majors, who becomes the scapegoat? That's right, the grift always be workin' in raw Liberal Democracy.

      • benr November 20, 2020 at 10:05 am #


        That debt was based upon the premise of buying into a future.
        That future was a lie and that lie is that a degree is a step up in life towards getting a better job or even gasp a career.
        Twenty years ago maybe I will posit that now that money was as well spent as people going to Trump U.

        I took a course from UCSD extended studies for a c c++ Unix class. Cost me 6 grand and at the time I thought something was seriously off about it but I was committed what is one to do? Passed the course learned next to nothing about actual programming and was really pissed at having been conned by a major University. Started making the $100.00 dollar a month payments to Fannie Mae but after ten or so payments I received a letter in the mail that the program had gone belly up and I was refunded in full what I had paid and the debt was forgiven.
        I thought finally something went right in year I was seriously struggling right after 9-11-01.
        I had been laid off along with the entire Southern California branch of a Xerox spin off that failed over terrible management.
        Flash forward to tax season and guess what?
        I got a bill from the US government about debt forgiven and was being taxed for it.

        The system is rigged the massive money pits that are education keep syphoning off society and returning less and less value for what they take.

        To add insult to injury they have become cesspools of leftist indoctrination.
        On the fraud of higher education and the huge loans given out for it I suggest people should not have to pay for an education that returns little for the massive pile of debt incurred.

        • SW November 20, 2020 at 11:06 am #

          American students are sold the story that you can’t make a living without a college degree and you will have no future. The reality of what they’re signing up for is hidden under piles of promises that “it will all be worth it”. Unless the person has gotten a degree in something that requires actual skills — ie, engineering, medical, accounting, etc. — they could find themselves working in a call center, nail salon, or as a mobile dog groomer.

          • Beryl of Oyl November 20, 2020 at 11:28 am #

            SW, those are valid points, but we are also in a situation where merely possessing a degree in anything keeps your resume from being kicked by a prospective employer’s computer.

            Also I know personally of a number of individuals with the “right” degrees (one from RPI) who have struggled to pay back their permaloans.

            The RPI grad hit the job market right after one of the government-induced crashes, eventually got work in his field, only to be affected adversely by the worldwide financial crash. I won’t go into details, but I do know that those in the ‘tech’ fields do not wish to hire Americans.

      • shotho November 20, 2020 at 10:19 am #

        Right, and the idea that there’s something for nothing is a long held idea by the dependent American population. We’re now in the era of finding out that nothing is ever ‘free’ and the bill is coming due.

      • redrock November 20, 2020 at 10:26 am #

        Irresponsible ignorant whining fucks. They got the debt but skipped learning responsibility.

        • benr November 20, 2020 at 10:58 am #

          Not really.
          Next part of the story.
          My wife and I paid for a private education for my daughter FIRST GRADE ON UP..
          This was at the cost of driving twenty year old cars and not buying a house in San Diego.
          Paid for this education out of pocket through the first years of https://www.csusm.edu/.
          They force the kids to live on campus first year and of course that is a hefty sum of money.
          After four years of paying as much as we could out of pocket she still has a bill over twenty grand.
          The Nursing program was so impacted that she could not get the needed classes to finish her Degree in four years.
          Three semesters left and no matter what she did she could not get in the last bunch of classes needed. I have since been twisting her arm to finish what she started but she got married and now lives in Virginia.
          We now pay half of the money each month she owes since I wanted her to have skin in the game.
          With Covid that burden has been shelved for now but I suspect the interest is still piling up.

          My point is that the system makes it almost impossible to get things done in four years as a result of cost and the over population of people trying to get through this flawed system.

          She is considering switching to a business degree of some type instead.
          My guess is at 25 she will get pregnant and have kids do the full time mother thing and regret not finishing it in about a decade.

          • benr November 20, 2020 at 11:00 am #

            And still paying off that stupid loan.

          • Disaffected November 20, 2020 at 11:34 am #

            Tell her to forego the Business degree. Even bigger waste of time and money. Literally everyone has one now and they teach you nothing. Pure credential seeking.

          • Beryl of Oyl November 20, 2020 at 11:36 am #

            I have heard students at the SUNY colleges complaining for years about all the foreign students (mostly from China) they accept, because they can charge them higher tuition.

            Then with budget cuts and so forth, students who were having a hard enough time getting in all the courses they needed to graduate in four years, were finding themselves competing with Communists for scarce places.

            It is simply untrue that Americans weren’t taking the right courses or not as skilled as the foreigners.

            BTW, I also know personally of young graduates who started off gangbusters, got great jobs that they would not have gotten without their pricey degrees from the ‘right’ schools, jobs that even involved travel.
            Everybody’s dream, right? A job with travel, right out of school.
            The travel turned out to be mostly to China, to teach Chinese how to do their jobs.

            Needless to say how that turned out.
            If I know of a number of these people myself, so do many other Americans.

          • SvrzoH November 20, 2020 at 5:22 pm #

            “….no matter what she did she could not get in the last bunch of classes…”
            Why was that?

          • benr November 20, 2020 at 8:09 pm #


            The class schedules constantly filled up she even tried taking courses at the Junior college but Southern California colleges are severely impacted.
            A fact they don’t really go into much detail about as you sign your kids up.

        • MC Hammerabi November 20, 2020 at 11:02 am #

          you’re wrong redrock. I ain’t a whining fuck. Every other debt incurred in this country (except fed taxes owed) is extinguishable by bankruptcy. I make a lot of money, but if I didn’t, I would have been screwed on student debt and there would be no way out. Any other debt, I file bankruptcy. It ain’t whining to ask for the same terms.

          • Beryl of Oyl November 20, 2020 at 11:45 am #

            If you hadn’t gone to school, had taken a job at lower pay than the degree would have gotten you, and had lived as if you were well off, as many Americans did in the 80s, you would have gotten out from under all that debt.

            BTW, the Bidens were also heavily involved in the credit card debt racket. As a family.

            If a few people were gaming the system by graduating and immediately declaring bankruptcy, as I have heard anecdotal evidence of, that would have been easy enough to fix without the draconian ‘solution’.

            When they started allowing tuition to be paid on a credit card, which favored those wealthy enough to have a high credit limit, those people would have been able to get rid of that debt when their stupid kid flunked out.

            I don’t think people realize how this has contributed to the watering down of our education, either.

            Parents paying the big bucks aren’t going to accept the kid coming away with no degree.

        • sophia November 20, 2020 at 6:29 pm #


          That really isn’t fair. You’ve go 17, 18-year olds who expect guidance by adults instead deliberately hoodwinked by slick loan sharks using predatory techniques.

        • Amman November 21, 2020 at 4:06 am #

          The point of insulting these people is….?

          • benr November 22, 2020 at 7:50 am #

            Some people deserve it?

      • Epicur November 20, 2020 at 10:31 am #

        “…no one forced someone to take the money.”

        No, but they have been funneled like herd animals into a trap, into their only visible option. Now that they are trapped, the ones that cooperate will be tamed and cared for.

        Once the government has taken on responsibility for the care of the herd the ones that are not tamed will be “taken care of.” It is astounding to see how the troublemakers are blind to their eventual fate.

      • hmuller November 20, 2020 at 12:56 pm #

        When I went off to a state university in 1973, two semester’s tuition, fees, room & board in a dorm cost $1200. Add $300 for books and incidentals, and we’re talking $1500 per year. (Few people I knew had any student loans). Today, that number is $30,000 per year.

        Overall, consumer price inflation did not go up 20 fold. Working class wages since 1973 most certainly didn’t go up 20 fold. The availability of credit in the form of students loans permitted the raising of education prices beyond what a cash market would bear.

        The same situation prevails in housing. Homes would cost a lot less if you had to buy them with 100% cash.

        Bankers create credit, drive up prices by the issuance of this credit, and create life-long debt slaves. It’s a wonderfully profitable arrangement, and the suckers are only dimly aware they have been victimized.

        • benr November 20, 2020 at 8:13 pm #

          To be fair government got involved and the price sky rocketed.

          • SvrzoH November 21, 2020 at 6:24 pm #

            Thanks for reply to my question above.
            Collusion of government “law” that student loan is no subject to BK and greed of the banking, actually.
            My son studying bio engineering and after two years of college made a break buy working in the lab as an , collected nice sum of $25.000 for completion toward his degree goal.
            Lab experience + $0 cost loan-wise, so to speak. We were toying with idea for him to study in Europe, in Poland to
            be exact, where they offer classes in English, $3,000 per semester, and institution is accredited and within 100 in the world for his field. He may settle for some local money siphon,or wait until they open the borders, hopefully, so he may have the chance to study abroad and be one of the moneyed residents of the city for the two years of his young life.

          • SvrzoH November 21, 2020 at 6:32 pm #

            ….as an lab technician AND …by working…
            Few extra glasses of wine this afternoon.

        • MiddlePeninsula November 20, 2020 at 8:21 pm #

          I calculated one time, my education for tuition and books cost $3,000 at a state university. This was in the 70’s. I took that education, took an exam and got a professional license. I made a good living and retired this year. My advice to students now would be to enter a trade or learn to farm. Farmers may be very valuable folks in the future and a good plumber is gold.

        • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 20, 2020 at 9:26 pm #

          I went to school in 1995. Expensive non-state liberal arts college. It was 18k/year all in. I had a half ride and it still took me 10 years to pay off my debt (well, making minimum payments at 3% interest). Now it’s 65k/yr with room and board. Kids are screwed.

    • thirdcoastlegend November 20, 2020 at 9:53 am #

      What about the, “dark winter,” that keeps getting mentioned?

      Possible tip off to a grid drop in a few weeks?

      • benr November 20, 2020 at 10:06 am #

        No a wargame scenario in which a covid like plague befalls the country.

        It literally is Biden thumbing his nose at the American people for a planned out break.

    • ThorsHammer November 20, 2020 at 12:08 pm #

      “It’s a power struggle”

      I had a brief glimmer of hope that there would be a fight in which the overwhelming evidence of election fraud would be pitted against the Demonrat efforts to control the narrative.

      Then I came to my senses and remembered that the US judicial system is based upon the principle that it produces the best justice money can buy. And one of the $$$ factors is the skill of the gunslingers you hire.

      I bought the notion that the forces behind the Orange Tweeter had recruited a Wyatt Earp in the person of Sidney Powell until I watched her and Rudy in their recent press conference. Powell has chosen to run with a Latin version of Russiagate called “The Venezuelans Did It”. This allows her to remain on the side of BIG OIL (“How dare the Venezuelans steal our oil:” ) and reminds Trump of his error in not following up with full scale war after his provocations last year.

      By promoting Venezuelagate, Powell can mobilize chicken hawks from all sides of the cesspool and pull the Tweeter back from the precipice of isolation created by his personality. And more important, generate a smokescreen of cover should her legal challenges to the fraudulent election be stymied by the much larger armies of the Deep State.

      • benr November 20, 2020 at 12:20 pm #


        That is as good of an assessment as any I have seen.

      • Tate November 20, 2020 at 1:44 pm #

        You may be on to something there.

      • Kim November 20, 2020 at 6:33 pm #

        You must have started drinking early today.

  2. Silverfox555 November 20, 2020 at 9:35 am #

    JHK wrote:
    “We have much better resources for distributing information in America today, despite our tribulations with the corporate news media and their Silicon Valley cadres.”

    For this very reason, should TPTB believe they are losing control, we’ll probably want to prepare for disruptions and limits on free expression/discussion via this wonderfully horrific platform known as the internet.

    They’ve already gone for limiting socializing in person to limit the spread/monitor the flow of information.

    Stay savvy, readers.

    • thirdcoastlegend November 20, 2020 at 9:55 am #

      Your last paragraph is exactly churches, pubs, and gyms have suffered the most onerous lockdown restrictions.

      It is also why they are chirping about the size of Thanksgiving gatherings.

      • Beryl of Oyl November 20, 2020 at 10:04 am #

        We’ve already witnessed Michele Obama having urged younger Americans to use the occasion to push Obamacare, and to screen your friends and family for signs of “racism”, i.e. disagreeing with anything the media tells you you aren’t supposed to disagree with.

      • 100th Avatar November 20, 2020 at 10:09 am #

        Very clever hot take.

        Politics and Thanksgiving digestion.

        Nothing more American.

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 20, 2020 at 10:00 am #

      Indeed. There has got to be an internet kill switch that is as simple as it sounds. Sure, there are plenty of savvy folks who will have their own networks, hardware and communication lines that can hang around for awhile…but if shit gets real I’d imagine they could shut down 99% of communication in one push of a button.

      Of course, there would be complete anarchy in the streets nationwide if they did.

      • Epicur November 20, 2020 at 10:37 am #

        The historical answer to anarchy in the streets has been an iron fist, often preceded by a “whiff of grape”. The anarchy may run for a few years, but it cannot survive.

        That’s “a whiff of grapeshot” Epicur. Napoleon said it when he first came on the scene and put down a Paris mob.–JHK Admin

        I see no reason to believe it will be different this time.

      • feralandroid November 20, 2020 at 11:55 am #

        I own a small ISP but I am totally reliant of the few fiber companies that connect the world. If they shut down the fiber backbones, there would be no internet.

        Back to Ham radio?

        • benr November 20, 2020 at 4:19 pm #

          You could do a straight satellite connection but that trip up and back down is for ever for online FPS gaming,

        • tresho November 20, 2020 at 6:34 pm #

          “there would be no internet” How long would you be able to access the internet if the electric grid in your area went down for a month, along with the cell phone network which still needs the grid if only to keep its batteries charged?

    • sophia November 20, 2020 at 6:43 pm #

      Masks, too, make conversation difficult.

  3. Silverfox555 November 20, 2020 at 9:37 am #

    Every American & those that care about supposedly “free and fair elections” needs to view this short 3:50 minute video.



    • thirdcoastlegend November 20, 2020 at 9:56 am #

      Hijra is simply jihad via immigration.

  4. Ishabaka November 20, 2020 at 9:40 am #

    Inclusivity, diversity, & equity uber alles.

  5. snarkmatic9000 November 20, 2020 at 9:42 am #

    JHK, you have gone completely off the rails in parroting the worst completely unsubstantiated conspiracy theories and falling for the GOP’s spineless mendaciousness. The Dems have a lot to answer for, but my mother always correctly said that 2 wrongs don’t make a right. You have totally squandered 20 years of credibility in the last 2 years. What’s next… Qanon? Dem pedophilia? This blog is no longer worth reading. Sorry.

    Spark– since you feel that way, I will duo you the honor of kicking you off. — JHK Admin

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 20, 2020 at 10:02 am #

      HuffPo is accepting subscribers.

      • Beryl of Oyl November 20, 2020 at 10:06 am #

        I heard Buzzfeed is buying HuffPo.
        That should make it a more reliable news source.

        • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 20, 2020 at 10:44 am #

          Ha. Indeed.

    • benr November 20, 2020 at 10:09 am #

      Hey snark why not hold off and wait till the dust settles?
      Does it hurt you so bad to read what he has wrote?
      I seriously don’t understand why this damages your fragile ego so much.

    • John Twinkie November 20, 2020 at 10:09 am #

      Here in Switzerland we have a saying: “Truth is no rounder than a cow’s eye”

      Nobody knows what this means but we say it anyhow.

      • EnterpriseSpaceship November 20, 2020 at 2:21 pm #

        US, Switzerland, Iraq or Timbuktu – “Another layer is the Deep Civilisation itself….”

        What’s burned to animate all this circular reality is finite fossil fuels, and these are running out…

        Nature has given humans more-or-less 3 trillion barrel of oil-equivalent, readily captured in earlier Life, well kept stored underground, but humans have burned them all in 300 years.

        No EROEI can be positive – ever – by Physics.

        Our civilisation has been in a vicious campaign to destroy all fossil fuels reserves the quickest possible – animating a choreographed reality…

        This is mysticism indeed: why humans have done that to themselves?

        Fossil fuels were so mystical, future philosophers will keep writing what fossil fuels have meant for humans and why humans have destroyed them intentionally so quickly – until the end of time.


        • Rulo Deschamps November 20, 2020 at 8:06 pm #

          Enterprise, not just fuels. Fisheries, timber, fertile soils, clean water, biodiversity. While adding trash, lots of trash, liquid trash, solid trash, floating trash, trash that you eat, you shit, you breathe, trash that never goes away, radioactive trash, non-biodegradable trash, toxic trash. Climate is one side of the dark diamond, and it’s not even sure us, humans, are entirely responsible for its changes. Strange how it gets promoted over everything else, the depletion of everything, the trash, the overpopulation, obscene. Maybe because you can purchase some carbon credits and claim to be green while still burning up shit, I dunno. Another poster said TDS cuts both ways, and he’s right. These problems are not going away even if DJT beats the odds one more time and rightfully (I think) claims the prize a 2nd time. He’s the least bad option, yeah. But still a bad option. We need to wake up. And nobody’s waking up. Nobody wants to make the rational decision to stop now, consume less, live in a smaller house, de-couple from the entertainments, re-learn the old skills. In the words of the great Philosopher: “Sad”.

          • EnterpriseSpaceship November 20, 2020 at 11:15 pm #

            @Rulo Deschamps

            All the impact you have mentioned, in fisheries, timber, fertile soils, clean water, biodiversity, etc – is fossil fuels-derivative.

            Humans cannot claim they are willing to reduce their fossil fuels consumption when they mass produce SUVs and build panacea Energy projects – thinking they are green.

            Instead, humans might play a Fossil Fuels Musical Chairs Game, though – burning all fossil fuels to the ground like no tomorrow.


      • tresho November 20, 2020 at 6:35 pm #

        Academic philosophers seem to go by the saying, “There is no such thing as the truth, and that’s the truth!”

    • 100th Avatar November 20, 2020 at 10:15 am #


      Like using DNC, Obama, and Biden campaign talking points?

      Like inviting esteemed guests from the CIA, FBI, and NSA on to your “news” program?

      Like universally ignoring the failed Russia-gate investigation? Ignoring the laptop that the Biden’s have not denied is theirs?



      • Sean Coleman November 20, 2020 at 5:03 pm #

        “This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.”

    • neurodoc November 20, 2020 at 10:22 am #

      Fragile neurotics always seem to reference their mother. Coincidence. I wonder. Get a good psychotherapist and vent there; you’ll be more welcome there as a paying customer.

      • neurodoc November 20, 2020 at 10:24 am #

        Also, snark, why do you even read the blog. After two year you must be getting something, perhaps self induced punishment for your relationship with your mother?

    • Night Owl November 20, 2020 at 10:25 am #

      Joe Biden gropes children on film.

      Prove me wrong, Snark.

      Links ready to go.

    • Jeremy November 20, 2020 at 10:56 am #

      Go away then.

    • Lawfish November 20, 2020 at 4:28 pm #

      Mendacity, not mendaciousness.

      Good day.

  6. Vadrosaul November 20, 2020 at 9:53 am #

    I wonder how far back US elections have been altered to support neocon agendas. Bush Jr. in 2000 for sure. Basically any close race where a neocon or neolib puppet was eventually installed.

    For some reason, they farted their usual modus in 2016. I think Russians dick hack the election then – counterhacked it to prevent the usual deep-state puppeteering.

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 20, 2020 at 10:05 am #

      Can’t understand why so many people actually think the Russians are so powerful…yes, they have plenty of toys and a history of being sneaky. Which makes them different than…no other medium-to-large nation.

      • benr November 20, 2020 at 10:11 am #

        The military industrial complex MUST have an enemy to point and and say see this is why we spend trillions.
        What I don’t understand is why it’s still the Russians and not the Chinese.
        The Chicoms are the real enemy and I suspect in my lifetime we will see Russia and India as a valuable foil to align with against China.

        • P.C. November 20, 2020 at 11:40 am #

          “The past was alterable. The past never had been altered. Oceania was at war with Eastasia. Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia.”

        • sophia November 20, 2020 at 6:59 pm #


          “What I don’t understand is why it’s still the Russians and not the Chinese.”

          I can answer that! I think it is because they want to deflect attention away from the real target.

      • Vadrosaul November 20, 2020 at 12:03 pm #

        I don’t think they are that powerful, but I cannot understand how the deep-state messed up so thoroughly after everything went so well with their beer-buddy potted plant from 2001-2009, followed by their charismatic Kenyan sloganeer.

        I get that they blundered with their malfunctioning replicant candidate for 2016 (and seem to be doing worse with their current stuttering pervert), but poor-quality puppets are not enough rationale for their blunder in 2016. It was a close race, so how did their plans collapse?

        • messianicdruid November 20, 2020 at 1:19 pm #

          “This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.”

        • benr November 20, 2020 at 3:32 pm #

          No one took Trump seriously to include I believe the Donald himself.
          I think he ran just to troll everyone and at some point realized he had an actual shot at it.

          • ThorsHammer November 20, 2020 at 4:45 pm #


            A short history of the First Campaign

            I agree. Trumps presidential run was started as a PR campaign to enhance Trump The Brand. When it unexpectedly took off Trump the Salesman and Trump the Ego took over. Much to his surprise Trump the Gold Plated Billionaire was able to cast himself as Trump the Savior of the Little Guy..

            The most serious threat to Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign came when his wife refused to spend the next four years of her life in a fishbowl. Trump was faced with a divorce that could take away much of his fortune and derail his presidential campaign. Finally a settlement was negotiated that prohibited any physical contact between the partners, even during public appearances. LOL

            Once he had won the Presidency Trump tried to reward his billionaire class bedfellows with tax giveaways like all Presidents do, but his stirring the pot containing the Deplorables had put the fear of Pitchforks firmly in the minds of the Owning Class. And Trump’s belief that there was money to be made by doing business deals in Russia was the final straw. Even the lure of fast money couldn’t overcome decades of propaganda demonizing the Russians as baby-eating monsters. Fortunately for The Resistance the Beltway contains a baker’s dozen of Agencies whose specialty is fomenting Coups, so they were soon put to work to rid the nation of it’s Orange Aberration. And here we are, the laughing stock of the world, not even able to manage a fraudulent election.

        • ThorsHammer November 20, 2020 at 3:38 pm #


          I’ve been pondering the same quandary. After their brilliant success in creating the half black Trojan Horse Obama, how could their technology regress so quickly? To go from finding a teenager stoned out of his gourd on a beach in Hawaii, shipping him back to a laboratory in Chicago, performing a brain transplant to turn him into a cyborg, and then managing all the control circuits all the way to the point where the “Audacity of Hope” landed in the Big White House. Brilliant!

          What a letdown to only be able to produce a shriveled up, brain dead perverted old hair sniffer as a figurehead.

    • Night Owl November 20, 2020 at 10:20 am #

      This is one of the reasons they are so desperate to keep a lid on it.

      Globalism = Uniparty = Neocons and Neolibs working together.

      My gut says it started with Shrub, as he ushered in the initial stages of domestic terror. Biden will finish the job if Trump somehow fails to put him out of comission.

      It all goes back to 2001. The gaping wound that will never go away until the truth is revealed. And we all know it.

      • bluekayak November 20, 2020 at 10:25 am #

        Shrub’s dad, I’d say. Look up Pappy’s “New World Order” speech… on Sept 11, 1990. Ushered in the last 30 years of nonstop war.

        • Night Owl November 20, 2020 at 10:34 am #

          Yes, indeed. I was referring more to when the ball really got rolling in a noticeable way.


          • beantownbill. November 20, 2020 at 1:10 pm #

            This all started way, way back, probably even before the founding of the Republic. Here’s just a couple of examples:

            Andy Jackson’s struggles with the national bank in the 1820’s.

            Woodrow Wilson and the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913.

            Seems like there’s always some group trying to undermine the USA.

          • benr November 22, 2020 at 7:53 am #

            JHKennedy also threatened the federal reserve and the answer was a bullet to the head in Texas.

          • benr November 22, 2020 at 7:54 am #


      • rainmaker November 20, 2020 at 11:03 am #

        The MSM are part of the “domestic terror” plan

      • abbybwood November 20, 2020 at 1:09 pm #

        “The New World Order” has just been re-branded “The Great Reset”.

        The richest on Earth are calling all the shots and can commit crimes on a massive scale from war crimes to economic crimes to corruption in our faces to stealing elections and staging coups.

        The American people can simply not be allowed to have a say.

        I read that Trump was set for a 410 Electoral College landslide.

        I hope Rudy and Sidney have the goods they need to save The Constitution. If it goes to the Supreme Court I hope Roberts is not being blackmailed (as I have read). Funny how our entire democracy may come down to whether or not John Roberts has been “compromised”.

        • beantownbill. November 20, 2020 at 1:15 pm #

          Don’t conservatives have a 6 to 3 majority in the Supreme Court? Roberts is only 1 vote.

          • abbybwood November 20, 2020 at 2:15 pm #

            I was talking about “reliable” conservatives.

        • Night Owl November 21, 2020 at 4:43 am #

          TBH, I think it was his name on the Epstein list.

          I posted a picture on here a few months back showing what looks like Roberts out in the water with Nader, Clinton, and co.

          And that picture is VERY hard to find. It has been scrubbed from almost every place I can think of.

      • Rulo Deschamps November 20, 2020 at 8:20 pm #

        Yes, 2001. Or 1963.

  7. SouthernYankee November 20, 2020 at 9:53 am #

    Then why are you still reading it?

  8. SouthernYankee November 20, 2020 at 9:58 am #

    And “two wrongs don’t make a right?” That’s as parochial as the old Brady Bunch injunction “Mom always said don’t play ball in the house.” Grow up already.

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 20, 2020 at 10:07 am #

      Mom also imparted the wisdom that one should “stop making that face or it’ll stay that way forever.”

      • SouthernYankee November 20, 2020 at 10:28 am #

        My mom always said “The fish stinks from the head.” The only problem today is that the “fish” in question is a HydraOctoLib, a multi-headed beast with long tentacles, a bad case of halitosis and a serious attitude problem.

        • benr November 20, 2020 at 11:03 am #

          Don’t forget hair plugs, a fake tan and a porcelain grin.

          • Rulo Deschamps November 20, 2020 at 8:27 pm #

            benr, isn’t it strange, how we accept these parodies of “the best amongst us” to rule us? The fake tans, that fake boobs, the old people trying to look good for TV? JHK mentions Rudy’s hair dye melting away… what do you make of Pelosi’s tits? Do you want your grandmother looking like that? Old women with wisdom to share look like old women, they are the respected elders, as are the men, old men that look old, act old, are all invested into their communities, don’t give a shit how they look, care about their decisions being right, their eloquence sharp, their leadership accepted not because they look like a telenovela’s idea of an “older love interest” but because they know what they’re doing. Final thought: if we gave up our TV’s, would that result in elder statesmen that speak through reason and ideas and not botox and platitudes?

        • messianicdruid November 20, 2020 at 6:57 pm #

          Mine used to say, “Sweep your own doorstep before you go sweep your neighbors.”

  9. volodya November 20, 2020 at 10:06 am #

    The lunacies currently in train are truly mind bending, more so than the illogic in any twisted too-much-lasagna-for-supper dream or warped, fever-induced night vision. No director in any avant-garde film could cook it up not even with chemical assists. Crazy Joe, he is The Arm and he sounds like this:


    • SouthernYankee November 20, 2020 at 10:16 am #

      I can’t decide which is more disturbing, that re-cast evil Oompa Loomoa from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory or the mesmerizing psychedelic floor tiling

    • abbybwood November 20, 2020 at 2:19 pm #

      Or he sounds like this:


      Joe can never make it through the oath of office.

      Kamala’s husband knows what’s up when he recently bounced into a room and announced gleefully: “The husband of the next President of the United States!”

  10. 100th Avatar November 20, 2020 at 10:07 am #


    “Finally, a few words of encouragement to those of you almost terminally disgusted with the dishonesty and bad faith of the people who have been running things in our country: this is not a place like Russia in 1989. The Soviet overlords had a captive press, of course, but the Internet was barely a larval presence in world culture then. All the Russian people had to fight the immersive milieu of lies they lived in was the mimeograph machine and the verbal grapevine. We have much better resources for distributing information in America today, despite our tribulations with the corporate news media and their Silicon Valley cadres. We have a pretty sturdy alt-news network and many diligent entrepreneurial reporters who are able to get the news out. It will get out, and it pays to remember that truth has Godly powers of its own.”

  11. shotho November 20, 2020 at 10:09 am #

    ” do you suppose that half the population will sit still for struggle sessions over white privilege”? Yes.
    “. . . . which is the king hell financial fiasco that will attend a Biden presidency . . . . “. Yes, that will be the news going forward and not much else, but it’s been coming on for decades and poor Uncle Joe will be the one holding the bag.

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 20, 2020 at 10:37 am #

      shotho – ”do you suppose that half the population will sit still for struggle sessions over white privilege”? Yes.

      Sadly, I agree with you. And it’ll only go downhill from there. Now, I’ll be the first guy ranting at my kid’s PTA meeting about Drag Queen Story Hour of teaching him that being born white makes him inherently at fault for, well, anything…but I’d guess 99 out of 100 saying “I ain’t taking that damn vaccine,” or “you want my guns, come and try to take em!” will eventually roll up their sleeve, hold out their arm, then go open the gun safe.

      Threaten to jail a man and take his livelihood, home, children, etc, and most everyone will comply. These people are getting brazen, but they’ve also laid the groundwork for a very long time to make sure we forgot as a population what we’ve gone through to get where we are. I’m in my early 40’s. Nearly every single one of my peers agree with almost everything the government and the media tells them. (I have a very small echo chamber to voice my beliefs among those I know and love). They can’t wait for the vaccine and think BLM is what their name says they are.

      • SW November 20, 2020 at 11:18 am #

        I heard on the local news last night (north Texas) that “some employers will not allow workers to return to work nor will they hire anyone who has not had the vaccine”. No mention who these people or companies are but there you have it. Also read this morning 12 million are about to drop off the unemployment rolls and lose benefits. And my personal prediction for 2021 — one of the first things Hologram President Biden will do is get a bill passed to censor the internet. The groundwork is being laid by none other than Obama declaring it to be a threat to democracy.

        But cheer up folks!!! We all have our guns and religion to cling to.

        • tresho November 20, 2020 at 6:40 pm #

          “nor will they hire anyone who has not had the vaccine” How much of a bribe would a vaccine administrator accept to falsify the record?

      • Jigplate November 20, 2020 at 1:10 pm #

        “you want my guns, come and try to take em!” will eventually roll up their sleeve, hold out their arm, then go open the gun safe. “. I disagree. I don’t believe this will happen. How do I know? It’s happened already. Cuomo’s NY “safe act” required owners of semi automatic rifles to register their firearms. The compliance rate was in the single digits. A number of upstate NY sheriffs also came out to say that they wouldn’t enforce it. Why don’t more Americans know about this? Simple. NY’s gun owners didn’t burn down cities or loot stores. they just quietly said ” fuck you, not going to do it”

        • messianicdruid November 20, 2020 at 7:02 pm #

          My new term for those who would register their “liberty teeth” with the ATF – buyback stoopid.

        • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 20, 2020 at 7:21 pm #

          Hey, I hear ya. And I’m well awarre of that situation in NY, as well as many more like it over the last 86 years or so of American history since the original NFA. The difference is the consequence was a $200 fine (which I’ll grant was a lot of money back then) and “potential” prison time if you didn’t pay the fine…not the straight loss of right to work, home, family (children) to the state as a result of non-compliance and being unfit to make decisions for those not of age to decide for themselves.

          Be honest. Some will deem themselves capable of resisting that threat (and a noticeable few will be). Most will not.

          I can resist a random attacker in my home (or will at least do my best), but to consciously decide to give it all up instead of handing over my upper arm…I’m just being honest, probably won’t be able to say no if the right (simple) pressure is applied. I have a wife and a toddler. But I sure don’t want the damn ram-rodded vaccine, and I sure would do everything I could to not give up our home protection without dedstroying my family’s life in the process. Call me a pussy, whatever. So are most of us these days. That’s my point. We’re fooked.

      • abbybwood November 20, 2020 at 2:37 pm #

        Speaking of the Covid vaccine, I have been reading through as much medical literature as I can and everyone needs to understand the “vaccine” will be “vaccines” and they are telling us “there will be pain”.

        First they give you jab number one. Most who have received it in trials have been laid up for up to three days with a sore arm, fevers hovering around 101 and body aches.

        Then comes the mandatory jab number two 21 days later and another round of sore arms, fevers and body aches.

        But joy! That all means the vaccine is working!

        Interesting how in a global pandemic President-select Sleepy Joe still refuses to consider expanding Medicare to ALL Americans (supported in polls by 87%). As a result those in charge of peddling the vaccines are wringing their hands because many of those “essential workers” who would be first in line for the multiple jabs and three days of feeling like they actually HAVE Covid (plus the sore arms) have no health insurance. So they are floating the idea that those getting the jabs should get three days paid time off to recover!

        Let’s assume 100% of those workers agree to get the first jab, because no jabby, no jobby. What percent will be willing to go back for the second jab?? And after all this they will still need to keep the face diaper on and social distance!

        Anybody’s guess.

        • tresho November 20, 2020 at 6:43 pm #

          “assume 100% of those workers agree to get the first jab” A very old saying for doctors and nurses is, “If it isn’t on the patient’s record, it didn’t happen.” This goes both ways. Once something appears on the patient’s record, it did happen.

          • messianicdruid November 20, 2020 at 7:10 pm #

            They also say, “If you hear hoofbeats don’t think about zebras.” I guess most of them forgot it.

        • ThorsHammer November 21, 2020 at 9:16 am #

          Don’t we live in a Free Market Economy? I predict that as soon as mandatory vaccinations are in place the price for a certified vaccination form on E-Bay will rapidly fall to a point lower than a single shot.

          Now if we could only buy virtual holograph face muzzles—-.

  12. Beryl of Oyl November 20, 2020 at 10:13 am #

    Talking about suppression of speech and ideas, I see the long-awaited Danish Study has arrived to zero fanfare in the MSM.

    That, and the Elon Musk testing story should have made headlines, right?

    How many people even saw the dinner party with Gavin Newsom and guests yakking it up in close proximity, sans any masks (of course not), even though Newsom has told California they must not gather together for Thanksgiving in any numbers, oh and put that mask back in place between bites in any event?

    To top it off, there were holy “Health Care Professionals” in the crowded space. They must have had a good laugh at the sheeple’s expense.

    They are all making the big bucks for Friends and Family off of these scams.

    • SouthernYankee November 20, 2020 at 10:32 am #

      Yes, for Newsans et al it’s Democracy and Capitalism for the few but Socialism and scraps for the rest. Now shut up and do as yer told Constituent (what did you say your name was?).

    • Yohannon November 20, 2020 at 12:36 pm #

      After the picture came out, Newsom had to apologize most abjectly. But one of the Medical Honchos just sneered and repeated, We were eating outside – even though the picture said otherwise.

      Capitalists don’t have to answer to the public in any way, shape, or form. People who want to be ruled by them are nuts.

    • abbybwood November 20, 2020 at 2:43 pm #

      And Newsom has declared that everyone should avoid air travel over Thanksgiving in spite of the fact that a big number of California “legislators” are now beaching it in Maui during an all important junket they could not have done with Zoom like all us other lackeys.

      • benr November 20, 2020 at 8:16 pm #

        Climbing on a freedom bird this weekend and flying across the country.
        Gavin can lick the curlies off the urinals.

    • SW November 20, 2020 at 3:52 pm #

      If Gavin Newsom is reelected govenor I would sign a petition for California to be kicked out of the Union. It will prove to everyone that California has become an open air insane asylum and a wall must be built to protect the innocents in other states.

      • messianicdruid November 20, 2020 at 7:24 pm #

        The wall will have to extend to British Columbia.

        • benr November 20, 2020 at 8:17 pm #

          Yea most of the west coast is gone at least around major urban centers.
          It must be something in the water.

      • abbybwood November 22, 2020 at 7:29 pm #


        But what if it only “appeared” he won, when actually all those pesky vote counting machines had been “pre-programmed” to make SURE Newsom won? Next step a run against Commie….sorry, I meant to say Carmalita for 2024?

  13. izzy November 20, 2020 at 10:15 am #

    It ain’t over till the Fat Lady sings.
    And that will just be the beginning of the end.

    • Ron Anselmo November 20, 2020 at 10:24 am #

      Yes, and she’s not even at the opera house yet.

      • Rain Waters November 20, 2020 at 4:16 pm #

        Lizzo graced the cover of the rollling stone as this crock was being rolled out. No Twiggy there.

        • messianicdruid November 20, 2020 at 7:29 pm #

          Someone the other day advised to pick up a copy of Time magazine with Joe on the cover, as it would be very valuable collectors piece. I looked at one today and they wanted 14.99, I just put it back; could not do it.

          • abbybwood November 22, 2020 at 7:40 pm #

            I would buy it and make dart games out of it with pictures of Carmalita and Hillary and Barack (who will NEVER be a Supreme Court Justice! He is too busy cavorting around Italy with his good buddy George).

            So many corrupt criminals to add to The Biden Time Magazine dart board! Rice, Powers, Page, Strzok, Weissmann, Comey, Brennan, everyone on “The View”.

            This list of assholes could get LONG.

    • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 20, 2020 at 10:39 am #

      Can Michelle sing?

    • abbybwood November 22, 2020 at 7:31 pm #

      I didn’t realize Stacey Abrams had a voice!

  14. Beryl of Oyl November 20, 2020 at 10:16 am #

    As far as the chances of the various lawsuits, my man the Market Ticker guy, who was of the put up or shut up category before that press conference, is now slightly in the they can do this category.

    • abbybwood November 20, 2020 at 2:54 pm #


      I wonder why Ms. Harris has NOT yet resigned her Senate seat?

      Maybe she is waiting for Christmas?

      Newsom will likely name Karen Bass as her replacement. Which means there will have to be a special election in California to replace her since Governors can only name replacements to the Senate.

  15. Rodster November 20, 2020 at 10:16 am #

    Jim ended his piece on a fine note. However the American people are too FUCKING stoopid (yes I misspelled it on purpose) to see the truth starring them in the face. They have been brainwashed, dumbed down and domesticated on purpose. Just for this very type of event.

    They will go on rioting and protesting no matter what and the fuckups running this country into oblivion will just cheer them ON. It’s what happens to Empires when they are on their way out and a new one is about to replace them.

    Except now it gets serious because what is going to replace the current Evil Empire is even more evil and sinister. If Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, Christine Legarde and George Soros and others get their wish, we will be looking at a tyrannical global centralized Gov’t that will literally feed you hand to mouth. Expect a digital currency, no more cash, you don’t own anything anymore because the Overlords will see to that.

    I should again watch The Hunger Games just to get myself ready.

    Forced vaccination and a universal basic income for everyone and if you say fuck off, they will cut you off from the system. What did the Bible call that, oh yeah something about the Mark of the Beast.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 20, 2020 at 10:28 am #

      The same people who shut down dissenting voices on the unscientific lockdowns and mask-wearing are those pushing the universal basic income and the no cash society.

      No cash and no stores also make it easier for the government to track every single purchase and to control what you are allowed to buy.

      • thirdcoastlegend November 20, 2020 at 10:43 am #

        It also kills the cash economy and allows them to bring those guys into the tax net.

        As a bonus the banks get to charge a fee on top of every digital transaction, which is yet another money printer for the TBTF banks.

    • SouthernYankee November 20, 2020 at 10:38 am #

      Watch out for more domestic terrorism, a resurgence in political assassinations and “ideological cleansing.”

      • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 20, 2020 at 10:42 am #

        Interesting. Assassinations are one thing our recent American generations haven’t been exposed to…at least not like those around in the 60’s witnessed.

        We had the shock and awe of 9/11 (among other large-scale personal worldview-destroying events) to screw our minds up, but the power of a public assassination? Not sure how people would handle that these days. Guessing not well.

        • SouthernYankee November 20, 2020 at 10:51 am #

          Apparently it’s already begun MMOMS. A plot to assassinate the governor in Michigan has been thwarted. I have neither lived through such a time but simply believe that America’s presumed Exceptionalism will prove illusory in the coming tribulation/Long Emergency and we will witness much more Shock-and-Awe courtesy of the Deep State, Globalists. and American seditionists.

        • Beryl of Oyl November 20, 2020 at 10:58 am #

          That’s probably why they haven’t just knocked off President Trump by now.

          You see why they want our guns.

    • 100th Avatar November 20, 2020 at 10:41 am #

      True, because they are so easily manipulated.

      How else can you explain the rise, every 4 years, of the Soros funded BLM, in order to push an aged, white, bought, and serial politician into office? Clinton, and now Biden?

      It takes a special kind of imbecile to become a useful idiot for this objective.

      It doesn’t end there. Here, you have your own special imbecile unable to see the forest for the trees: Vlad/Janos/Sredni/Yohannon.
      Totally lost the plot when falling for the divisive race-baiting distractions.
      Perhaps when the global plutocracy bags and chips him he’ll come to understand.
      Negative social credit can really do a number on you.

      • Yohannon November 20, 2020 at 12:43 pm #

        Look up the etymology of the word Nation. One people. A family writ large – and that means one race. Going for the multiplicity means the organic unity of culture is lost and the mystic chords of memory severed. Is that what you want? Of course it is. The less memory and unity, the less feeling of togetherness and capacity to agree – and thus the less political power. Then interlopers of all kinds can prosper at the people’s expense.

        • 100th Avatar November 20, 2020 at 12:59 pm #

          You pursue some absurd notion of stasis.
          Humans are migratory.
          Since they stumbled upon the Neanderthal and Denisovans.

          And like them you’ll be consumed.
          A ghost in the helix sequence.

          But not before you’re under the heel.

          Psst, you see that boot coming down?
          It’s not just for you, it’s for the ones you dislike as well.
          Pass it along.

          You are here

          • Yohannon November 20, 2020 at 1:46 pm #

            Yeah and once they migrate to someplace good, they set up shop and keep other migrants out. Thus they have found evidence of heavy fighting the oak groves of ancient California. Acorns have lots of protein – an easy pick and big attractor for hunter gatherers.

            Evidence being skeletons with arrowheads embedded in or between the bones.

            Now do you understand little one?

          • 100th Avatar November 20, 2020 at 4:44 pm #

            And they’re gone, dummy.

            Migration, miscegenation, and evolution ain’t waiting on you, that’s vanity talkin’

            or stupidity talkin’

          • MrMangoOnMyShoulder November 21, 2020 at 2:44 pm #

            I’m with Yohannon here, at least in regards to your pushback on human migratory habits.

            Humans are migratory in the macrocosm, sure…over decades or centuries that is obvious. On an individual scale, we are definitely creatures of habit and security. For example, I’m guessing you likely own a home and have made it your own, plan to stay there unless you see a better option, and try to keep uninvited guests from moving in.

    • Yohannon November 20, 2020 at 12:39 pm #

      Klaus recently said free access to the countryside should not be an automatic right. Hikers cause too much damage! Shades of the Hunger Games indeed.

      • 100th Avatar November 20, 2020 at 1:02 pm #

        And as we have seen from the elites, this goes for the rabble.
        Not for them.

        Fine dining. Overseas junkets. Maskless rendezvous.
        Illuminati’ing in bucolic groves and resort towns.

        • Yohannon November 20, 2020 at 6:30 pm #

          If you’re against Nationalism, this is what you get. Too simple for a big think dink like you to understand. Goes right under your radar.

  16. bluekayak November 20, 2020 at 10:16 am #

    “The global banking system is ten-months pregnant with Rosemary’s Baby.”

    That is a priceless line… bravo!

    When I was 18 forty years ago the national debt tipped the Toledo at an astronomic ONE TRILLION; the GDP was about 3 times that at the time. Today the national debt is TWENTY-TWO trillion, and the GDP is barely that. Simply put, that debt will NEVER be paid.

    Private debt (consumer, student loan, mortgage) is multiples of what it was decades ago, while incomes have barely budged in real terms. These debts are ultimately unpayable. The resulting cascading defaults will wipe out the banks, insurers, and pension funds public and private.

    • shotho November 20, 2020 at 10:29 am #

      National debt stands at 27 trillion and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. Unfunded liabilities stand at somewhere between 50-60 trillion. None of it will ever be paid.

      • benr November 20, 2020 at 11:21 am #

        A quadrillion in false derivatives!

        • beantownbill. November 20, 2020 at 1:56 pm #

          The numbers keep adding zeroes. Not too long ago a trillion was huge, but the public accepted it. Now the public is getting used to one hundred trillion and the public is accepting it. Already the word quadrillion is being bandied about so people will get used to it and accept a quadrillion dollar budget/deficit.

          Unfortunately, at some point the public won’t get used to the huge numbers, and that’s when the system breaks down. That’s assuming life is going on pretty much the same as usual. But if hyperinflation sets in, we’ll go quickly to quintillions and sextillions. The average person will not have the ability to fathom the numbers and the government won’t be able to keep printing more dollars. I can’t fathom paying a billion dollars for a tank of gas, can you?

          By that time, all money will only be a number on your bank statement on-line. Welcome to the ZSA – the Zimbabwean States of America.

          • cbeard November 20, 2020 at 5:31 pm #

            No big deal. It will be another variation of the great reset. Just push a button and all those ones and zeros disappear. You don’t owe me and I don’t owe you. Starting over again.

          • Rulo Deschamps November 20, 2020 at 8:45 pm #

            beantown, I vividly remember the crises in the old country… the currency kept adding numbers, then a new currency would replace it, minus the zeroes, a “new peso”… the new peso would start adding zeroes soon enough. Hyperinflation is fun. You get any money, you run and spend it right away in spaghetti and and malbec and steak, because you know tomorrow your new pesos will buy less of those vital necessities. The difference between Argentina’s currency and the US dollar? Nobody, not even Argies, save in pesos. Everybody in the world saves in dollars. So they’ll absorb any crazy number of dollars created on screens because they trust them more than their rubles or reais or, yes, Zimbabwean dollars. That’s why I think JHK’s predictions of imminent financial demise, while right in the long term and the theory, don’t take into account the world’s thirst for US dollars.

          • messianicdruid November 20, 2020 at 9:55 pm #

            Gold is a sapling, silver is an acorn.

          • Wizard of the Saddle November 23, 2020 at 11:53 am #

            When hyperinflation comes the PTB will simply demonetize worthless, hyperinflated “Old Dollars” and will issue a new dollar currency with all the zeros chopped off. You’ll then have a limited time to run to the bank to exchange your old dollars for the “New Dollars.”

            Problem solved. LOL….

          • Wizard of the Saddle November 23, 2020 at 11:58 am #

            Here is the real end-game for the USD. When hyperinflation sets in and the dollar becomes toilet tissue China ?? will announce that the Yuan is now a gold-backed currency. The dollar will collapse as the world’s reserve currency leaving China in charge of the global economy by default. People around the globe will rush to dump their dollars and to hold the Chinese currency instead. A gold-backed currency will always defeat a debt-backed currency because it has no counter-party risk. It is honest money.

        • abbybwood November 22, 2020 at 7:48 pm #

          If you asked a hundred people at the DMV what a derivative was (even though there are few DMV’s open now), 99% would screw up their faces and be puzzled and 1% would say “Is that a special liquor I saw in an Austin Powers movie?!”

  17. Rodster November 20, 2020 at 10:21 am #

    On another note as Jim mentioned, thank God for the internet and the real media aka The Alternative Media.

    A HUGE MEGA shout-out to individuals like JHK, James Corbett (Corbett Report) , Greg Hunter (USA Watchdog), Gerald Celente (Trends Journal), Martin Armstrong (Armstron Economics), Chris Martenson (Peak Prosperity), Brandon Smith (Alt-Media.com) and others who keep us all informed with regards to the truth.

    • Night Owl November 20, 2020 at 10:31 am #

      The hard core research and journalism for all of the major prog. scandals was done on Twitter, and much of it has been repeated/disseminated here and elsewhere in condensed form.

      Brian Cates (Brian The Great), Duane Cates, Jeff Carlson, Imperator Rex (now on Parler and Quod Verum), Rising Serpent, Tracy Beanz, and many more figured out 90% of what has come out over the course of about 3 years.

      Incredible track records, and all deserve a fucking medal if Biden and co. are disposed of.

      • Soul Forensics November 20, 2020 at 3:12 pm #

        Tracy Beanz’ house burned down about four days ago. Coincidence? I haven’t followed up on it.

        • Night Owl November 21, 2020 at 4:46 am #

          She said they didn’t think it was arson, but who knows.

      • Kim November 22, 2020 at 10:34 pm #

        Brian Cates (Brian the Great) has been suspended from Twitter. 245K followers.

        They had to suspend him. Because everything is on the up and up.

    • 100th Avatar November 20, 2020 at 10:32 am #

      If you’re prepared to accept divergent perspectives and truly fearless journalism, I suggest Strategic-culture.org as well:



      • Yohannon November 20, 2020 at 12:50 pm #

        Wrong. Democracy is how dictators come to power, typically. I thought you understood that at least, what with your contempt for humanity! Now you have forgotten it? I’m a hater too, but I pick the fruits of wisdom off this poisonous tree.

        Will you not now repudiate this loathsome doctrine and come unto the Paradise of the Fathers? Franklin said, A Republic, if you can keep it. A government of laws not of men. And of the men, only qualified males get to vote.

        • 100th Avatar November 20, 2020 at 1:07 pm #

          wrong? Really?
          “Censorship is the core of any dictatorship, even of ones that pretend to be democratic. The only way around censorship is intelligent usage of the internet. This article has explained basically how that is done. If there aren’t many people who care about getting beyond the propaganda, then how can democracy even become possible? A population that votes only its existing prejudices cannot even conceivably be the citizenry of an authentic democracy. And, so, they aren’t.

          Censorship isn’t done only by (for example) destroying Julian Assange for his having made essential truths available to the public. But billionaires-controlled ‘news’-media encourage that — and other types of — censorship, so as to maintain their control over the Government. As long as that control continues, the dictatorship will continue.”

          • Yohannon November 20, 2020 at 1:47 pm #

            Read your Plato. Democracy or Mob rule leads to the rise of a Strong Man to quell the Disorder. We can only pray that is our Strong Man, Trump.

            Hail Caesar!

          • abbybwood November 20, 2020 at 3:58 pm #

            Not sure who said this:

            Know who it is you may not criticize and you will see who the rulers are.

            No BDS movement allowed or talk of it etc.

      • abbybwood November 21, 2020 at 6:32 pm #

        I recommend Jimmy Dore, here recently interviewing Glenn Greenwald:


        And Lionel Nation on YouTube. He does a live-stream every day for about an hour from Hells Kitchen at 8 am EST.

        Lionel is a criminal defense lawyer and prosecutor with about 30 years experience doing talk radio/TV. He also is licensed to argue before The Supreme Court.

        Lionel is a major Trump supporter (met Trump at WH) and he will give you a daily dose of legal realism, funny stories and is generally very informative and entertaining.

    • UN OUT OF USA November 20, 2020 at 11:21 am #

      Also Jeffrey Prather (jeffreyprather.com)

  18. rainmaker November 20, 2020 at 10:25 am #

    I’m all for letting the insurance racket get wiped out. The insurance companies hijacked the auto glass service industry, which is my business, and turned it into a low paid ghetto. They destroyed the business to the point where they caused most of the small mom & pop shops to just close up. Now they can hardly find anyone to do the work anymore. I say fu(k ’em.

    • bluekayak November 20, 2020 at 10:28 am #

      I’m sorry to hear that, but not surprised — it is exactly what they did to medical care.

      • rainmaker November 20, 2020 at 10:49 am #

        The insurance industry screwed up our friends at the body shops, too.. Since when do the pricks in insurance get to tell everyone else how to run their business, and how much they will get paid? Can you say govt. backed monopoly?

    • benr November 20, 2020 at 11:09 am #

      They can hardly find anyone to do physical labor.
      Good friend works on Yamaha outboard motors starting wage is over $20 an hour and up to $50 but he can’t find a young kid who wants to learn them.

    • Wizard of the Saddle November 23, 2020 at 12:07 pm #

      All insurance is a scam. All insurance companies have an inherent conflict of interest. They cannot maximize profits for stockholders without continuously seeking to screw beneficiaries out of the insurance payments that they are due when they experience a loss.

      Government mandated insurance is also crooked and, IMHO, unconstitutional. Government should not be able to mandate how I spend my money and which goods and services I choose to consume or not to consume.

      The world is a risky place, but most risks are tolerable and the odds of a loss are very small. Financially savvy people self-insure against most risks by maintaining healthy savings accounts so that they have cash reserves. Insurance is mainly a sucker’s play aimed at the middle-class and the poor.

  19. priv_SK November 20, 2020 at 10:30 am #

    I am starting to use blamtifa to describe the opposition. It’s easier to say and write than BLM/Antifa and gets the point across. Credit to Michael Yon and his field reporting for that.

  20. Mostly Disagreeable November 20, 2020 at 10:33 am #

    I live near DC and have concluded that the Beltway forms a holding pen for psychopaths.

    • Night Owl November 20, 2020 at 10:38 am #

      Outside the Beltway is no better. NOVA is full of psychopath careerists.

    • 100th Avatar November 20, 2020 at 10:48 am #

      No, not that.
      It’s the banality of bureaucracy.
      It’s where truly mediocre people who have mastered the art of doing what they’re told to get ahead congregate.
      Nothing more than that. In fact, most of these people are too dull, too dim, to see anything beyond playing the game.
      A mostly itinerant class, their main objective is getting their “high 3” and getting on to a location that best suits their retirement goals. Play the game, move-up, and move-on.
      This culture, the championing of the average intellect, where the most important attributes are loyalty, fealty, and team-playing over anything else is what is destroying this country.
      Self-serving sycophants doing anything to climb the GS and SES ranks.
      Fattening the retirement nest-egg, no more, no less.

      • benr November 20, 2020 at 11:20 am #

        How right you are and most of them are also petty tyrants right on down to the admin assistance and Secretaries.
        Spoiled entitled and demanding while they sit on their fat asses doing nothing but expecting to be serviced like royalty.

        • Night Owl November 21, 2020 at 4:39 am #

          Petty tyrant is the right term. I can count on my hand the number of NOVA and DC folk I knew who were not exactly this.

      • tresho November 20, 2020 at 6:51 pm #

        “banality” – from Wiki: The “iron law of oligarchy” states that all forms of organization, regardless of how democratic they may be at the start, will eventually and inevitably develop oligarchic tendencies, thus making true democracy practically and theoretically impossible, especially in large groups and complex organizations.

      • Kim November 20, 2020 at 9:37 pm #

        Wrong again. It is a lack of loyalty to one’s team i.e., one’s family and race – one’s own interests – that has allowed us to be divided and then ruled against our interests.

        • Wizard of the Saddle November 23, 2020 at 12:10 pm #

          Truer words have never been spoken. But you’ll have to head for the hills before the Doxxing Thugs come for you.

  21. Zoltar November 20, 2020 at 10:37 am #

    “The global banking system is ten-months pregnant with Rosemary’s Baby. Great line, illustrating another saving grace – that laughter still helps.”

    My greatest dread, when 2

    • Kim November 20, 2020 at 9:38 pm #

      It is a good line.

  22. Zoltar November 20, 2020 at 10:40 am #

    My greatest dread, when 2021 reveals 2020 to have been The Good Old Days is that Americans will be exposed as a nation of people who are too incompetent, unaware, lazy, and out of shape to undertake rebuilding things.

    Five years from now there will many skeletal remains in front of flat screens, enshrouded in cobwebs.

    • tresho November 20, 2020 at 6:59 pm #

      “Five years from now” your scenario was already covering in Benet’s short story “By the Waters of Babylon” — excerpt, where a primitive survivor stumbles upon your scenario:
      “Then I saw the dead god. He was sitting in his chair, by the window, in a room I had not entered before and, for the first moment, I thought that he was alive. Then I saw the skin on the back of his hand—it was like dry leather. The room was shut, hot and dry—no doubt that had kept him as he was. At first I was afraid to approach him—then the fear left me. He was sitting looking
      out over the city—he was dressed in the clothes of the gods. His age was neither young nor old—I could not tell his age. But there was wisdom in his face and great sadness. You could see that he would have not run away. He had sat at his window, watching his city die—then he himself had died. “

  23. BackRowHeckler November 20, 2020 at 10:42 am #

    Well, rumor is in Ct, after Thanksgiving Holiday, we are going back to ‘Phase 1 Lockdown’, which is what we had last March. This should just about finish off any small businesses still standing. And back in March the $600 per week unemployment premium was in effect, which is gone now. Mental health here is clearly in decline; last week a woman in Pkymouth — a teacher — shot 2 of her own children, reason given by her family is she was obsessed with Covid and went over the edge … went over the edge and there’s no coming back.


    • stelmosfire November 20, 2020 at 11:30 am #

      Well due to the Covid and social distancing I see you folks in CT have found a new outlet for your Luvin’. All fun and games till ya’ got a dick full o’ splinters.

      • BackRowHeckler November 20, 2020 at 3:25 pm #

        That’s what I’m talking about, Rip.

        One of our fine, outstanding citizens, a finished product of the stellar public education system.

        • benr November 20, 2020 at 4:51 pm #

          More like tripping sack on PcP, Bath Salts or some synthetic poison from China.

    • benr November 20, 2020 at 12:39 pm #

      Same in California and now the Authoritarian Gavin Newsome is imposing a lite version of martial law aka CURFEWS 10:00pm to 5:00 am starting 11-21-2020.

      Gavin FUCK and YOU.

      Orange country sheriff has already declared they will not enforce this but the EX FBI lackey Sheriff Gore signed right on to it.
      Hey Gore go fuck yourself as well.


      No one can convince me this is nothing more than training Americans to accept the iron hand in the velvet glove.

      • benr November 20, 2020 at 12:40 pm #

        Oh and the stool Pidgeon tattle on your neighbor shit!
        Best way I know to get a sock in the mouth is to narc out your neighbor!

      • SW November 20, 2020 at 4:03 pm #

        Is the virus the most contagious between the hours of 10pm and 5am? Why are comedians not having a field day with this nonsense?

        • benr November 20, 2020 at 4:23 pm #

          I for one will be disobeying these edicts on purpose and the sad part is I am in bed most nights by 8:30pm so it will take real effort on my part to disobey my imperious governor Gavin the smarmy used car salesman who I am 100% sure is lining up a run for the Whitehouse in the next 12 years.

          • tresho November 20, 2020 at 7:12 pm #

            “I for one will be disobeying these edicts on purpose” I made a point of doing that in my own neighborhood at o-dark-thirty last night. I walked the streets for over 2 hours – without a mask. It was a most pleasant night, unusually warm for November. I saw 5 deer in people’s yards. Only one deer had antlers, and none was wearing a mask. I was in very good company.

        • tresho November 20, 2020 at 7:13 pm #

          “Why are comedians not having a field day with this nonsense?” So much nonsense, so little time!

          • Kim November 20, 2020 at 9:41 pm #

            They know who pays them.

      • Dr_Wellington_Yueh November 20, 2020 at 6:12 pm #

        > CURFEWS 10:00pm to 5:00 am starting 11-21-2020.

        Lotsa luck with that. Due to odd work schedule, I’m usually out riding my bicycle in the local mountains at that time.

        Say…does anybody know a pest that attacks grape vines?

    • tresho November 20, 2020 at 7:09 pm #

      “went over the edge” I did a bit of Googling to find out more. The shooter Naomi Bell, mentioned in nypost.com. From an article: “husband said her mental state was severely impacted by the death of her sister in 2013 and became worse during the COVID-19 lockdown, ultimately requiring two hospital stays in April and October.” Apparently she had long before gone over the edge. Just how she got her hands on a firearm with this history is an interesting question. Stories like this one are not unique to COVID or lockdowns.

  24. John Twinkie November 20, 2020 at 10:47 am #

    We watch from Switzerland as the US sensibly wishes to replace the worst president in its history and a scene so pathetic and ridiculous as that press-mess with Rudy and his Greek Chorus finds someone to cheerlead about upcoming tsunami of court challenges while sensible folks find a way out of this tragedy.

    • BackRowHeckler November 20, 2020 at 10:51 am #

      Trump got at least 72 million votes, and maybe millions more uncounted votes. Your statement that we want to ‘sensibly’ replace the president with Sleepy Joe is specious and inaccurate.

      On top of that, mind your own goddam business, which, as far as I can tell, is hosting Swindlers at Davos every year or so. Stick to that.


      • John Twinkie November 20, 2020 at 10:59 am #

        Ah, I see by your gracious response that you are bitter. I would be too if half of my tax money went to a corporate welfare scheme funny known as defense.

        Try to find a pothole in Switzerland. Or someone who goes bankrupt from the doctor. Or cows are the happiest on Earth. We sing every weekend in the town square.

        • Night Owl November 20, 2020 at 2:46 pm #

          I have family in Einsiedeln and friends in Zurich, and I hop over the border every few years. The Swiss are quite conservative, and I knew quite a few who openly support Trump.

          Perhaps you are the rare Swissman with uncommonly good English, but I suspect Australia is far more likely.

          One of our most prolific trolls returns with handle number 13.

          13 is bad luck, Ghoul.

      • Beryl of Oyl November 20, 2020 at 11:06 am #

        I have heard but cannot verify that the reason for the sudden shutting down of the vote count on election night was because the votes for Donald J. Trump were coming in so hot and heavy that Dominion’s cheating algorithm broke.

        Sidney says he won in a landsllde, and that is what I believe as well.

        • John Twinkie November 20, 2020 at 11:11 am #

          You make the joke?

          • 100th Avatar November 20, 2020 at 11:47 am #

            I make a joke:


          • Yohannon November 20, 2020 at 12:55 pm #

            Wrong again. This is ‘guile.

          • Kim November 20, 2020 at 8:09 pm #

            “You make the joke?”

            History’s worst ever attempt at a second language speaker “accent”.

            “No a-joke! I make-a the pasta!”

            JHK must be very disappointed by the low level of troll he gets here.

    • rainmaker November 20, 2020 at 10:56 am #

      You are a troll. It is expensive to live in Switzerland, I’ve heard, so you’re probably one of the well-off class. No one in Biden’s camp cares about the average American working person.

      • benr November 20, 2020 at 12:42 pm #

        This fuckstick does not live in Switzerland he is in the DC area and another tentacle of legion aka Janet or Asoka the butt sniffing clown.

    • feralandroid November 20, 2020 at 12:33 pm #

      And we watch as Europe becomes another failed state of Africa. Enjoy the last fruits of our military protection, because once that is gone, so is Switzerland.

  25. Beryl of Oyl November 20, 2020 at 10:50 am #

    Lawyer Lin Wood has publicly stated that Hillary Clinton was involved in allowing foreign interference in our election.
    George Soros too, but that was to be expected, right?
    Anyway statements to that effect have upset Karl Rove.

    Dana Perino has reportedly stated that Dominion voting systems should sue Sidney and Rudy for defamation, which has prompted this response from Mr. Wood:

    “I know defamation law. Defamation law is a friend of mine. Dominion is not going to sue anybody because TRUTH is an absolute defense.

    Plus discovery in the case will open the cookie box to even more evidence that Dominion interfered in our US Election.

    is foolish.”

    • SoftStarLight November 20, 2020 at 11:38 am #

      Unfortunately it has became crystal clear that Fox News is an active participant in the color revolution and the Great Reset. Anyone still with Fox at this point is supporting those two things regardless.

      • benr November 20, 2020 at 12:44 pm #

        Rupert Murdoch the morloc pushing color revolution on all more like revulsion which should turn into globalist expulsion.

      • sophia November 20, 2020 at 7:54 pm #

        Is Tucker Carlson selling out?

        • Kim November 20, 2020 at 8:06 pm #

          Yep. The Tuck has cucked.

          Turn him off.

        • Tate November 20, 2020 at 10:33 pm #

          He’s really cringe lately.

        • FreddieMars November 20, 2020 at 11:53 pm #

          Tucker Carlson simply did what any rational person (or journalist) would do and asked for evidence (even a smidgen!) and was told to back off. What other conclusion could he have come to?

          • Kim November 21, 2020 at 4:12 am #

            Wrong yet again.

            He was provided with

            1. Evidence in the form of subpoenas

            2. He was offered one of the witnesses to interview

          • FreddieMars November 21, 2020 at 6:19 am #

            Not what I read.

          • Kim November 21, 2020 at 9:29 am #

            Mad magazine doesn’t always have the latest.

    • Kim November 20, 2020 at 9:44 pm #

      Dana Perino. More wasted White eggs.

      But she has dogs!

  26. James Kuehl November 20, 2020 at 10:58 am #

    Looking away from the political shitshow for a moment, notice the Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico is on the brink of collapse and set to be withdrawn from service by the National Science Foundation (NSF). What we learned with that tool over the past decades is awe inspiring. We somehow manage to come up with money to build a useless wall on our southern border through environmentally sensitive areas to fend off an imaginary invasion of foreigners. America seems determined to transform ourselves into the biggest collection of ignoramuses on the planet.

    • John Twinkie November 20, 2020 at 11:06 am #

      Yes, we talk here in Switzerland of America 72 million voting for a demented fool who kills many thousands with the Covid mess.

      I have to agree very fully

      • SoftStarLight November 20, 2020 at 11:35 am #

        So who is responsible for the thousands of alleged covid deaths in Europe? Europe seems to be doing a very poor job of managing the situation. Wuhan hosted a massive Halloween celebration with no social distancing and many people not wearing masks, except for Halloween masks of course. Perhaps you should worry about getting the affairs of your own house in order.

        • 100th Avatar November 20, 2020 at 11:48 am #

          Unfamiliar with Georges1202?

          • SoftStarLight November 20, 2020 at 11:50 am #

            Ah ok, yes I do remember him. Sneaky sneaky! Thank you.

        • feralandroid November 20, 2020 at 12:35 pm #

          Trump went to Europe and killed them too, don’t ya know.

    • Yohannon November 20, 2020 at 1:51 pm #

      What does it profit a man (or a people) to dream of the stars but lose the land? I do not say do not dream, but keep your feet on the ground whilst you do.

      In the Amazon, a tiny tribe of about 1500 has controlled a piece of land the size of Rhode Island for 500 years. How? Through ferocity in war, Kuehl, through ferocity in war.

  27. moflo November 20, 2020 at 11:29 am #

    You predicted that Joe Biden would not make it to the convention and that he was just a place holder for Clinton. Then you predicted that JB would not make it to the election and that the Dems would replace him with Clinton. Now you are predicting that Biden does not get inaugurated because of his corruption. Have you finally dropped the idea that Clinton will be installed by the Dems?

    Please ask yourself the “what if” questions that always put the Trump supporters off their feed. What would you be writing if Clinton or Obama had invited Republican state-level lawmakers to the White-house to attempt to subvert the election? What would you be writing if Clinton had lost the election by 6 million votes but repeatedly declared herself the winner?

    • Yohannon November 20, 2020 at 1:29 pm #

      Read it again. I believe he says Biden seems to have the upper hand at the moment. He’s not predicting that he will fail.

      • FreddieMars November 21, 2020 at 6:20 am #

        You’re right. He’s still the bubble of desperate hope.

    • messianicdruid November 20, 2020 at 11:08 pm #

      What would you [ moflo ] be writing if Clinton or Obama had invited Democrat state-level lawmakers to the DNC headquarters to attempt to subvert the election?

  28. Soloview November 20, 2020 at 11:52 am #

    I have taken some heat on JHK’s board already for dissing Sidney Powell over her “secret” evidence of millions of American votes flipped by a software financed by Hugo Chavez’ and Fidel Castro’s orphans, and run through the black internet as far as Wuhan. But I don’t mind. It’s not the first time I have been accosted by someone who can’ hold his pee. The problem of creating GOP version of Adam Schiff rules of process and evidence should be obvious. Unfortunately, it isn’t, except to a few sober heads like Tucker and Laura Ingraham (who sent a short but clear signal last night that Powell was not credible). And I am not sure that Sidney Powell espousing an idiotic conspiracy theory is excusable by saying that she ha been under a lot of stress caused by the Deep State and Emmet Sullivan.She is a lwayer, for crying out loud, and a former Assistant US. Attorney at that. It’s more likely she just went off the deep end when her passion got the better of her thinking lobes. This happens even to the brightest and most competent people. Remember Maggie Thatcher’s “we (the Tories) will never, ever, give up power” ? So yes, of course, she Sidney is bluffing and I doubt she will stain her reputation by dragging this nincompoop theory in front of a judge and risk his or her asking, “how do you, counsel, propose a certain vote split overwhelm and disable a machine-coded algorithm”?

    • SoftStarLight November 20, 2020 at 11:58 am #

      The reality is that it wouldn’t matter if she had all the proof in the world needed to overturn the election. This is not about the rule of law and legal procedure. This is simply a political revolution and since those on the offensive of the revolution are ideologically agreeable to you, you are good with it. The evidence will be filed in court. You are not interested in that process as your mind is made up before everything is on the table. If you are so confident and sure then what is your problem? Let the lawyers hang themselves with their lies if that is what they are doing.

      • Soloview November 20, 2020 at 12:23 pm #

        We will see soon enough what the reality is. BTW, since you are answering, how do you propose a certain vote split overwhelm and disable a machine-coded algorithm?

        • benr November 20, 2020 at 12:46 pm #

          Buffer overflow.
          SQL injection failure.

          • benr November 20, 2020 at 12:52 pm #

            Failure of subroutine to realloc memory or sme other function in another language besides c possibly coded in c#.
            If written in Java slow and memory intensive with tons of possible exploits.
            Piss poor coding with tons of memory leaks.

      • tresho November 20, 2020 at 7:17 pm #

        In the USA “the rule of law and legal procedure” was perverted long ago, at first bit by bit and then all of a sudden.

    • Yohannon November 20, 2020 at 1:33 pm #

      No, I watched Tucker and he didn’t say or imply that she wasn’t credible. He admires her but his job requires him to be a pest sometimes it seems.

      You don’t seem to want to get to the bottom of this. If there’s nothing to see, why not? You’d prefer a divided nation? Or are YOU the one who is bluffing?

      • Kim November 20, 2020 at 8:04 pm #


        Tucker framed the discussion in terms of “Well, I talk about UFOs sometimes, don’t I?”

        F#ck him. Dead to me.

        • FreddieMars November 21, 2020 at 6:23 am #

          He’ll be gutted to hear that…

    • Soul Forensics November 20, 2020 at 3:26 pm #

      Tucker Carlson is just pissed because he couldn’t get a personal interview scoop with Powell ala Bobulinski to further boost ratings. Ironically, his latest equivocating has tanked his ratings (along with those on the rest of the FOX roster).

      Murdoch has put the arm on them. Simple as that.

      • MiddlePeninsula November 20, 2020 at 8:43 pm #

        I rejoice that FOX News is losing viewship. That and the NFL. Best way to handle this is to check out and take your money with you. They can spew their bullshit, but far less people are hearing it. I am on sites with news, not propaganda.

      • Wizard of the Saddle November 23, 2020 at 12:26 pm #

        The loss of Tucker hurts. It truly does. He was one of the few public voices that showed courage at the height of the BLM/Antifa mass psychosis back in June and July. But I’ve been holding my breath waiting to see if he would show similar courage in the face of pressure from above at FOX. For a time, it seemed that he would. After all, he IS the ratings goose that is laying endless streams of golden eggs for Murdock. On the other hand, Murdock is the whip hand who decides how many of those golden eggs Tucker gets to put back into his pocket to haul home to his Fort Knox safe.

        The incident with Sidney Powell was the moment when Tucker blinked.

        As the saying goes, he who HAS the gold rules. Not he who creates the gold. The only way Tucker can regain his mojo is to bolt from FOX and throw in with the GGG as the lead opinion host on the soon-to-be-announced Trump News Network.

    • Islander November 24, 2020 at 6:06 pm #

      According to William Engdahl, the SmartMatic program was indeed developed in VZ:


      If he is right it certainly would seem to put a different spin on the Powell -Giuliani act. Maybe Rudy decided that he should spearhead a clarified legal route to SCOTUS.

  29. SoftStarLight November 20, 2020 at 11:53 am #


    Beware of Tucker Carlson….

    Vladimir Lenin – “The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves.”

    Carefully cajoling his audience to accept the steal. Talking things out and pointing things out and all the hot air is not action but is something good little conservatives are really awesome at. But it’s just a therapy session and always has been. They are keeping you busy while you are being robbed blind because they are on the take.

  30. P.C. November 20, 2020 at 11:57 am #

    “In the looking-less-likely event that Mr. Trump prevails in this election quarrel, he and his people will be subject to exactly the same thing, which is the onset of the epic crisis or “fourth turning” that I call the long emergency. It will include an additional layer of Antifa/BLM anarchy in the streets on top of epochal economic hard times.”

    I think we are at a crisis point far more dangerous than most people are willing to accept.

    Biden’s “victory” defies common sense. 3:00 am vote spikes in swing states. A pause in the vote counting. Precincts reporting more votes than registered voters. Unthinkable turnout, and for a guy who basically did not have a campaign.

    Hate Trump all you like. I don’t really like him either. But you have to turn off your eyes, ears and brain not to see the problems with this election.

    What is the endgame? The right will never consider Biden a legitimate president, and you really can’t blame them. The left is already just trying to move on and force Biden upon the country.

    One could ask the right to just move on. But the right has spent four years being called white supremacists, Nazis, homophobes, you name it. And all the while the left has never considered Trump a legitimate president.

    At our local sporting goods store, the ammunition shelves have been wiped out for months. The handgun case is full of whatever everyone else hasn’t bought up.

    • Yohannon November 20, 2020 at 1:37 pm #

      Yes. Their attitude of “by any means necessary” is the ethic of War. They see half the country as enemies – and have for quite a while now. Now the Right holds the same attitude towards them. The last step is for the Right to say by any means necessary.

      • P.C. November 20, 2020 at 3:01 pm #

        Agreed. The particular danger of this situation, IMO, is that the destruction of free and fair elections will push many people into that mindset. If elections do not matter, then what other avenue do people have in the face of oppression?

      • HapMan November 20, 2020 at 3:01 pm #

        It is, in fact, the far Right and its captive media that are saying that, by attempting to use baseless fraud allegations to overturn the will of the voters and justify future attacks on democracy.

        • P.C. November 20, 2020 at 3:40 pm #

          After reading the following, are you still confident that we have heard the true will of the people?

          – Republican observers were locked out and unable to observe the counting of the votes. Once they were ordered by a judge to let the observers in, they still refused to

          – In Philadelphia, observers were kept so far from the counting that they required binoculars to see anything

          – In Detroit, cardboard was used to cover the window to the counting center so that nobody could observe the counting of the votes

          There are more examples than this, and I don’t mean the Dominion issue because I haven’t seen enough information on that.

          What about the above gives you the sense that the election was conducted fairly, after four years of non-stop vilification of the president and anyone who supported him as an actual Nazi?

          By the U

          • P.C. November 20, 2020 at 3:41 pm #

            Forgive my unfinished sentence on the last line 🙂

          • HapMan November 20, 2020 at 4:27 pm #

            I suggest you take some time to read the written opinions being issued the various state and federal judges disposing of the Trump campaign’s claims.

          • Night Owl November 20, 2020 at 4:59 pm #

            The HalfMan has not realized that the core evidence briefly mentioned in the press conference has not been presented in court.

            The HalfMan.


          • HapMan November 20, 2020 at 5:15 pm #

            The press conference was infotainment for Trump fans.

            Watch what actually happens in the courts, and read the judges’ opinions.

          • Night Owl November 21, 2020 at 4:37 am #

            Funny you can’t seem to point us to any cases where the evidence SP was discussing the other day has come up.

            Classic HalfMan.

        • benr November 20, 2020 at 4:40 pm #

          hahah give it up you dolt.
          The writing is on the wall.
          One election allowed to proceed with this much fraud means the next election will have 600 million votes to decide who the winner is!
          The next one after that possibly 7.5 billion votes.

      • sevensec November 20, 2020 at 5:27 pm #

        I think of that line from A Man for All Seasons more and more:

        “..And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned around on you–where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat?”

        This is usually interpreted as a parable for the wisdom of liberal impartiality and self-restraint (that still-beloved, sometime-believable will o’ the wisp upon which so much of the modern world was contrived).

        But the line has another interpretation too: when the last law is down and the Devil turns, then the point is you *cannot* hide. You must fight like a motherf***er whatever the laws say—because, ahem, they’ve been *knocked down*. And the entity who knocked them is, you see, *the Devil*, and he wants to pull the exact same demolition act on *you* and everything you care about.

        Did you hear that sound? That gentle whooshing? That was “the Middle” softly and suddenly vanishing away. I fear we have precisely two options now: Victory, or Submission.

        Forcing this kind of binary, Machiavellian situation was likely just what Our Betters–for all their cant about being “nonbinary”–wanted. We, on the other hand, would happily have settled for an assurance of objectivity, personal freedom, law and order.

        So there is the ugly possibility this new ground favors them: else why did they compel it? But it is still the state of affairs we face.

        We may hope for more clement, contemplative, multi-polar options—more *liberal* options—to re-emerge someday in the sunlit uplands of the future, but those are not these times.

        Henceforth those who still cling to the Middle will find themselves increasingly homeless—literally without ground to stand on. In limbo, without purchase or articulation, they will gradually be seined up, like schools of cyanide-paralyzed angelfish, by whichever side finds them first.

        For a long time it was a cliché that that the Middle was the Truth’s favorite stomping-ground, and that by being as “moderate” as possible, one could simply stumble on Truth more often than not.

        That rule-of-thumb, dubious enough before, has now completely broken down. Now “the Middle” exists only as a hologram, a soothing bardo realm of lies, a high-decibel siren-song of media “inclusivity”.

        Do not listen to it. Swim for land—fast—in the opposite direction.

        That land will probably be called: the New Right.

    • abbybwood November 20, 2020 at 5:33 pm #

      I also read where international gambling sites are sitting on $600 million in bets on President and apparently are not planning to pay out until the court cases are resolved and Trump concedes or if he refuses until the Electoral College has voted him or Biden over the top.

    • Wizard of the Saddle November 23, 2020 at 12:40 pm #

      Well stated. This is precisely how I feel and all other Trump voters I’ve conversed with feel similarly. This election was a complete farce. It was our first national election as a full-blown nightmare Banana Republic with nuclear weapons.

      No rational, sentient person capable of logical thinking could possibly conclude otherwise, though many have chosen to do so solely as a result of their emotionally driven partisanship and sinister totalitarian impulses.

      In a republic such as ours, when the ballot box no longer serves as a way for citizens to peacefully change their government, all that is left to a free people to resist government tyranny is the resort to the cartridge box.

      The Founders knew this day would come and in the wee hours of November 4, 2020 – it finally did.

      This is why they gave us the 2nd Amendment. It sits in a little red box enshrouded with glass window panes labeled, “In case of subversion of constitutional government, break glass.“

      All those gun and ammo sales you’ve been hearing about for the past couple of years are the sounds of glass shattering from sea to shining sea.

      God help us….

  31. erik November 20, 2020 at 12:21 pm #

    Everyone bear in mind that the student loan thing was cooked up on “Slick Willie’s” watch and it was a devil’s deal made to insulate the banking business from the preceding years of widepsread default on student loans and their ultimate discharge through bankruptcy. So now student loans are less avoidable than are tax liens. The IRS will actually negotiate with delinquent taxpayers and accept lesser amounts to settle outstanding obligations, but banks won’t do that so far with student loans. This has enabled online “universities” Like Strayer and Phoenix to profit mightily off naive people signing on to pay tens of thousands for largely worthless degrees.Yes, we are looking into the abyss this winter. Trump and Republicans may take comfort that, as the shit really hits the fan in the next few years, it won’t happen on their watch.

    • SW November 20, 2020 at 4:26 pm #

      Bill Clinton planted the seed for a lot of problems. Repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act which virtually no one has ever talked about reinstating (including Bernie or Elizabeth), the establishment of for-profit prisons, health care reform failure, death of Iraqi children due to sanctions and those are just some of the “greatest hits.” But for Americans, it didn’t happen yesterday so it’s completely forgotten.

      • SeattleSig November 20, 2020 at 8:11 pm #

        The repeal of Glass Steagall was via the “Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999” also known as the “Gramm Leach Bliley Act” after the three Republican congressmen who authored it. Clinton did sign it, but if he had vetoed it the veto would have been overridden. I assume he was smart enough to know where it would lead, but went along because the Lewinsky affair had weakened him politically. All of the Republicans in the Senate voted in favor with one Democrat joining them. The Republicans in the House of Representatives were almost unanimously in favor, along with a large number of Democrats. At the time the GOP controlled both the Senate and the House.

  32. tom clark November 20, 2020 at 12:39 pm #

    JHK: “The global banking system is 10 months pregnant with Rosemary’s Baby.”

    Ouch! That’s one of your better humdingers, Jimbo!

  33. wm5135 November 20, 2020 at 12:45 pm #

    To have the nation our Constitution is the the foundation of we will have to build it, inclusively. That means compromise. No compromise? No nation.

    Bright spots in the last week:

    Elected shefiffs in New York state declaring they will not enforce the edict cancelling Thanksgiving gatherings.

    Florida Governor DeSantis calling for an expansion of Stand Your Ground to cover business owners protecting private property.

    The violence many are predicting will not last beyond the first vandal removed from the scene by a stand your ground business and a sheriff who will not charge said business’ efforts to defend their property. Ugly? Yes. Necessary? Probably. The woke will be awakened in short order.

    We brought this on ourselves by buying into all of the mayhem we have caused through our depraved foreign policy, starting with the Korean conflict right up to Guiado in Venezuela.

    “and it pays to remember that truth has Godly powers of its own.” JHK

    • Jigplate November 20, 2020 at 6:44 pm #

      “Elected sheriffs in New York state declaring they will not enforce the edict cancelling Thanksgiving gatherings.” County sheriffs are the last bulwark against tyranny in this country. They are the only Leo’s who aren’t beholden to a political boss. They answer directly to the people.

  34. benr November 20, 2020 at 12:58 pm #


    As I said shitty code lots of errors to include open pointers.

    Dominion voting machines where written in a series of languages.

    Components and coding languages involved in Dominion’s applications are shown
    in Table 1.
    Table 1 – Democracy Suite 5.2 Components
    Component Language/s Lines of Code Standard
    ICC C/C++ 234,812 CPlusPlus_CodingStandard-5.2-CA.pdf
    ICX Java 166,547 dvs_JavaCodingStandards.pdf
    ICE C/C++ 822,346 CPlusPlus_CodingStandard-5.2-CA.pdf
    ADJ C# 189,280 Csharp_AutomatedCodeReview-5.2-
    EMS C# 1,682,875 Csharp_AutomatedCodeReview-5.2-
    Source Code Review Tools utilized by SLI included:
    • Module Finder: an SLI proprietary application used to parse module names
    from C/C++ and VB code and populate the identified module names into the
    review documents
    • StyleCop: a commercial application used to review code to stated
    • Understand: a commercial application used to review code to stated

    Discrepancies are reported to provide the California Secretary of State a basis for
    evaluating the extent to which the source code meets applicable standards.
    ADJ source code review
    Four violations of the “single exit point” requirement were found in the ADJ source
    code base reviewed. As a result, four discrepancies were written against the code
    EMS source code review
    There were fifty violations of the “single exit point” and one function found to be
    longer than 240 lines in the EMS source code base reviewed. As a result, fifty-one
    discrepancies were written against the code base.
    ICC source code review
    There were nine instances of unchecked pointers and one instance of case
    statement without a break found in the ICC source code base reviewed. As a
    result, ten discrepancies were written against the code base.
    ICE source code review
    There were four instances of unchecked pointers found in the ICE source code
    base reviewed. As a result, four discrepancies were written against the code base.
    ICX source code review
    No source code requirements were found to be at issue within the ICX source code
    base reviewed and no discrepancies were written against the code base.

    For any vulnerabilities discovered, SLI was tasked with identifying the particular
    standards applicable to each vulnerability.
    To the extent possible, reported vulnerabilities include an indication of whether the
    exploitation of the vulnerability would require access by:
    • Voter: Usually has low knowledge of the voting machine design and
    configuration. Some may have more advanced knowledge. May carry out
    attacks designed by others. They have access to the machine(s) for less
    than an hour.
    • Poll worker: Usually has low knowledge of the voting machine design and
    configuration. Some may have more advanced knowledge. May carry out
    attacks designed by others. They have access to the machine(s) for up to
    one week, but all physical security has been put into place before the
    machines are received.
    • Elections official insider: Wide range of knowledge of the voting
    machine design and configuration. May have unrestricted access
    to the machine for long periods of time. Their designated activities
    • Setup and pre-election procedures;
    • Election operation;
    • Post-election processing of results; and
    • Archiving and storage operations.
    • Vendor insider: Possesses great knowledge of the voting machine design
    and configuration. They have unlimited access to the machine before it is
    delivered to the purchaser and, thereafter, may have unrestricted access
    when performing warranty and maintenance service, and when providing
    election administration services.
    SLI will not verify or demonstrate exploitability of the vulnerability but the report of
    the vulnerability will identify factors involved in the exploitation.
    Any vulnerability theories developed by the source code review team members
    shall, to the extent possible, be referred to the Secretary of State staff.
    ADJ source code vulnerability review
    No vulnerabilities were found within the ADJ source code base reviewed. As a
    result, no findings were written against the code base.
    EMS source code vulnerability review
    No vulnerabilities were found within the EMS source code base reviewed. As a
    result, no findings were written against the code base.

    • benr November 20, 2020 at 1:08 pm #

      That is just for the voting application and not the underlying operating system.
      Is this a nix based box?
      Windows how old is the os 95, nt , 98, 2k, winme, xp, 7, 10?
      Is the windows based box fully patched are any socs open?
      pcdos 2000?

      Went over to Steve Gibson hoping he could shed some light on all this but alas I can’t see that he has weighed in anywhere.

      • Yohannon November 20, 2020 at 1:40 pm #

        Free based? The compiler was freebasing as he compiled this masterpiece?

        • benr November 20, 2020 at 3:38 pm #

          Base as in OS type.
          Usually Linux variant or FreeBSD or OpenBSD Berkley software development.

          Neat shit but even the partition tool is esoteric and not for the faint of heart.
          I have heard the heart of Apple iOS is actually Free or OpenBSD with a spruced up GUI.

          • KappaJoe November 20, 2020 at 10:28 pm #

            Took a class in C++, studied hard, did all the programming labs, aced all the tests. Last day of class, instructor produces a 100-page handout explaining why C++ is a useless, dangerous language and should never be used for anything important (like a voting system).

            As an aside, laypeople don’t have any inkling that IT are a kind of latter-day priesthood. They control everything if they want (there are many, scarcely publicized tales of tech insiders holding management over a barrel for a variety of reasons, with the potential to ruin a billion dollar company with the press of a button). I think this is, in large part, why domestic IT has been largely replaced with H1B foreign resources. By the time the foreign workers have acclimated and realize the power they have, they are sent packing and replaced with fresh hires just off the boat. Corps are wont to continue with this arrangement, even though the offshore talent is often much less skilled, barely speak English, and likely to steal or sabotage source code and other proprietary items. They say they do this to save money, but their fear of and potential dependence on homegrown IT is that great. And this is why so much software (like voting software) sucks.

          • SpeedyBB November 22, 2020 at 4:06 am #

            Kappa Joe, that is fascinating and makes eminent sense. I know of one case where an American programmer laid a time bomb in some software for a major corporation I worked for (third-largest cement manufacturer in Indonesia, among other enterprises) and upon the conclusion of his contract informed the CEO (my immediate superior) that unless his final payment was made the system would shut down within X days.

            My boss, an American-educated entrepreneur, was suitably outraged. My own reaction was “This dude has been stiffed before, by ethnic Chinese companies who reason, not unnaturally, that ‘He’s done up all the programming; it’s working smoothly and reliably. Why should we pay him any more?'” (Call this “The Trump Tactic”)

            As regards the offshore Indians, I was amused to hear precisely the same expression used for them in Indonesia as they apply in Thailand: “If you are walking in the forest and you come across a cobra and an Indian, which one should you step on first?”

            They are not highly-regarded (or -trusted). Truth and honesty are not considered necessary attitudes back in the old country. (Not my “racist” opinion – many stories available on the web).

    • Yohannon November 20, 2020 at 1:53 pm #

      Do androids dream of electric sheep?

    • abbybwood November 20, 2020 at 5:41 pm #

      All of this is why elections should be broken down to mini-precincts where people go vote, get their thumbs inked and everyone sticks around until 8 pm to dump out all the ballots and count them.

      Lots of witnesses, lots of cameras and move the totals up the line until we have a state total everyone agrees with.

      No computers or software needed.


      • Kim November 20, 2020 at 9:52 pm #

        I can and do vote in the gubernatorial elections in Java. It is as you say. And when you vote at the booth, no one can approach within 7 meters.

        On the other hand, candidates openly hand out 50,000 rupiah to everyone (about $3.50). Waste of money bcs there is no way of knowing how someone voted.

        Ironically, the current governor hands out cash too but at the same time is known for his probity and has certainly cleaned up the civil service in the province!

        • Yohannon November 21, 2020 at 8:15 pm #

          I tried Major Dickason’s java as per your reccomendation. Great stuff.

  35. Roundball Shaman November 20, 2020 at 2:04 pm #

    “…are we now such a nation of lobotomized chumps that our chief criteria for any public acting-out of an acute national melodrama is slickness of presentation?”

    Most Americans today don’t go for substance. Too much work. Too confusing to one’s biases. Americans want quick and easy….slick and pre-packaged with thinking already done for them. Pop-It-Into-The-Microwave national cognition and thinking patterns.

    “…Mr. Trump’s lawyers have set the table for this epic political food-fight with just a few weeks to file and proceed, and we’ll have to stand by like grownups and see how it all plays out in the courts.”

    Where will they get the grownups? Are there any for rent somewhere? And… courts? Do they still have those? We’re they sold off to the highest bidders years ago?

    “…the train of tyranny that would follow the crooked and demented Ol’ White Joe Biden into power…”

    Tyranny is coming, one way or the other. Orwell’s Big Boot stomping on our faces forever. The only questions now are the size of the boot and who is doing the stomping and where do they wipe us off.

    …the king-hell financial fiasco that will attend a Joe Biden presidency and the monumental unwind of activity that will present as implacable depression.”

    They have perpetuated this economic fantasy for more years than even they thought was possible. When you can conjure fictional “money” out of thin air for decades and get the people of the world to make-believe it has value, you can be forgiven once the financial dream world crashes upon a heap of cold hard reality that everyone and everything outside of the .01% is utterly bankrupt.

    “…words of encouragement to those of you almost terminally disgusted with the dishonesty and bad faith of the people who have been running things in our country…truth has Godly powers of its own.”

    Truth used to have power. But in the Great Grand Reset, “truth” is what they tell us it is. Independence and freedom of thought has no place in the Reset New World Order. Truth is a possession and commodity to be solely owned by the .01%. And like the ancient Bible custodians who did not want the common riff raff to be able to read the Holy Book, their fictional truth and a bit of the real stuff will be the total domain of the Hidden Hands.

    But there is some good news… Giant Meteor IS coming one day and getting closer.

    • Yohannon November 20, 2020 at 2:31 pm #

      Giant Meteor? Does it have a name?

      • benr November 20, 2020 at 5:12 pm #

        Joe Biden.

      • messianicdruid November 21, 2020 at 12:44 am #

        “And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter”

        • benr November 22, 2020 at 10:13 pm #

          And absinthe was belched forth.

  36. Htruth November 20, 2020 at 2:26 pm #

    Thousands Of Canadians Voted In Michigan 2020 Elections: https://americanyellowvest.wpcomstaging.com/2020/11/20/thousands-of-canadians-voted-in-michigan-election/

  37. Yohannon November 20, 2020 at 2:42 pm #

    Covid sceptic Andreas Noack arrested in Germany during a livestream. The Biden team says the First Amendment was “an oversight”.


    If we don’t do it to them, they will do it to us. Liberalism says, See? Same thing! It doesn’t matter who wins. Fighting fair is what’s important.

    • Night Owl November 20, 2020 at 2:50 pm #

      Last report I heard was that they weren’t there for him and that the whole building was raided. Not sure if true, as fake news abounds in Germany, too.

  38. K-Dog November 20, 2020 at 3:24 pm #

    The Justice Department, the FBI, the CIA and all the other spook agencies will have a free hand in surveilling US citizens and attempting to control whatever they do.

    Certain conservative authors will run blogs as honey traps should that happen. Control is not always attempting to control what people do. Distracting people so they don’t do what they might have done is also control.

    Should the situation ever happen that the FBI, the CIA and all the other spook agencies are surveilling us and controlling our news feed, pride will prevent anyone admitting that it happened. It will be another case of the emperor wearing no clothes and nobody says a thing.

    will have a free hand.

    In that world a guy could have a website and the deeps state could mess with him and nobody would know any different. evidence would evaporate before it can be looked at.

    The deep state could remap some links on the website (6) without even touching any website code. Who is going to right-click and see that URLs don’t match? Nobody but the website owner would ever know.

    Then it is Mission Accomplished as the targeted dissident changes their behavior.

    Sort of.

    Regarding surveilling. Those doing it would think they are keeping Merica safe.

    The Secret Service should also be included in the deep state list. But when it comes to targeted individuals coordinated multi-agency activity is involved.

    • K-Dog November 20, 2020 at 3:25 pm #

      “The Justice Department, the FBI, the CIA and all the other spook agencies will have a free hand in surveilling US citizens and attempting to control whatever they do.”

      • K-Dog November 20, 2020 at 3:28 pm #

        You can mess with a website without changing any code and thus leaving ‘evidence’ because if you are the deep state you control the server.

    • K-Dog November 20, 2020 at 3:29 pm #

      They will have a free hand.

      • K-Dog November 20, 2020 at 3:30 pm #

        Evidence would evaporate.

        • K-Dog November 20, 2020 at 3:32 pm #

          Now I will crawl back under my rock until I see something else personally outrageous.

          • Yohannon November 20, 2020 at 6:33 pm #

            So you admit the election was stolen from Trump, O Gorthaur, O Mouth of Sauron!?

          • K-Dog November 20, 2020 at 6:43 pm #

            All for Morgoth’s vision of order and supremacy. You do your part. Sauron is an excellent blacksmith.

            Nice Try.

          • messianicdruid November 21, 2020 at 12:57 am #

            “We live in an age of insanity, where existential stress is the norm as we try to rationalize our pointless and psychologically miserable lives, enduring tedium, ugliness and stupidity for the sake of “succeeding” at a game where no one wins but the pathologically vicious and parasitic.”


      • elysianfield November 20, 2020 at 4:19 pm #

        I also have a free hand…guess what I am doing with it?


        “You can mess with a website without changing any code and thus leaving ‘evidence’ because if you are the deep state you control the server.”

        In this you are probably correct…I could not pass up the softball, however…gotta swing to the fence.

        • K-Dog November 20, 2020 at 6:48 pm #

          My website server is currently located in Boise Idaho. Not that it matters if it is in the US or probably most anywhere else English is spoken. All corporate servers are deeply hooked. Netflix popped my cherry years ago. Piss someone off enough and they will pick up your remote control.

          From 1000 miles away. It is a freakout the first time it happens.

    • benr November 20, 2020 at 3:41 pm #

      This is already happening where do you think Google and Facebook sprang from?

  39. Q. Shtik November 20, 2020 at 4:08 pm #

    Happy 78th Birthday, Joe Biden

    Duck!! Incoming rocks stones and bottles.

    • benr November 20, 2020 at 4:38 pm #

      No harm in wishing the man a happy birthday.
      Happy Birthday Joey Bidet may the road rise up and pummel you soundly around the head and shoulders.
      May your transgressions be exposed for the world to see and and orange jump suit be in the future for you and your drug addled pervert of a son and may your granddaughter get over the alleged trauma inflicted by your son.

      • MiddlePeninsula November 20, 2020 at 8:55 pm #

        Somewhere I came across Hunter Biden’s nudie pictures. When I see my so-called friend who sent it to me without warning; we WILL have a discussion. I am still blind from it. What a pervert of the first order. It looked like a crackhead’s sex orgy party. Must have been on his laptop. I wish I could unsee it. It was so GROSS.

  40. Sean Coleman November 20, 2020 at 4:33 pm #

    i just heard the full press conference but I did not wait for the stoopid questions from the bent press.

    • Kim November 20, 2020 at 7:32 pm #

      I thought Rudy was very good.

      The press? They make Jeffrey Toobin look classy.

      • Sean Coleman November 21, 2020 at 6:03 pm #

        Yes, I thought it was very good. Dramatic. i tried to get my wife to listen to two minutes (she had asked me why Trump’s claims were credible) but she only lasted one minute and missed the punchline in question. She had to hurry out to another room to watch the Irirsh news on television. She came back a few minutes and reported excitedly that one of the newsreaders had just apologized (live on air!) about having been caught attending an event where she had not ‘socially distanced’ properly. It is uphill work, and hopeless, at least on the face of it.

  41. benr November 20, 2020 at 4:34 pm #

    I was made better by Trump.
    He makes me want to brush up on Constitutional law.
    He makes me want to get off my ass and combat the evil of Antifa and BLM.
    People like you make me laugh can’t see that the other side is just fucking evil lemmings.
    Still going on about Russia?
    The real threat is China who has actively recruited Joe Biden and family!
    Actively had spies in peoples homes and working for our elected representatives.
    Russians have done next to nothing in comparison.
    In fact has Russia started buying everything up all over the world and mass immigrating into the US and Africa….no.
    Are they buying the best representatives bribes can control? no!
    Get a clue the 80’s are calling and want their foreign policy boogeyman back.
    The one thing Trump has succeeded wildly in doing is showing the unhinged brainwashed twats such as yourself for what they are.
    Whiny entitled bitches.

  42. Sean Coleman November 20, 2020 at 4:35 pm #

    Yes, and his hair too. And his little hands!

  43. Night Owl November 20, 2020 at 4:57 pm #

    Biden is a fraud.

  44. Soul Forensics November 20, 2020 at 5:10 pm #

    Democrats, the media, academe, and Hollywood — since the ‘instructional’, yearning, often good-faith rhetoric of the 60s — have become impatient with the inevitable failure of “equality of outcome” for Blacks.

    Next step? Why, let’s take the challenge direct to Whitey. Guilt by the charge of implicit bias, then implicit racism. A few smart writers on the Left are actually waking up lately, Greenwald and Taibbi among them. James Lindsay actually voted Trump! Robin DiAngelo’s White Fragility is a rallying cry for Critical Race Theory, and it has to be remembered that she was one of the queenpins in the Evergreen State College terrorism against Bret Weinstein in Portland. The Hologram’s on board with it, of course.

    Whitey’s doing the heavy lifting. The media blitzes everyone — and every day — with so much race-baiting bullshit it would make a pot-boiling SciFi writer green with envy. Any sensible person’s reaction to it is laughter, outrage, and/or disgust, depending on one’s mood for the day.

    Two separate reports lately (I don’t know how coordinated these things are) that trees are racist. So cut ’em down from your front lawn, Whitey!

    • Kim November 20, 2020 at 7:41 pm #

      In China and Mongolia, there is a current campaign to suppress the history of Genghis Khan. Cos he wasn’t Han.

      They feel threatened by history from 700 years ago. Perhaps Xi thinks the hordes will ride out of a museum and overthrow him.

      Truly, commies are fragile psychos.

      • SpeedyBB November 22, 2020 at 4:41 pm #

        “…fragile psychos…” indeed, Kim, and obsessed by history, even when they manage to twist and mangle it. Not to mention a rush of anaesthetic amnesia that you cannot imagine in a free society.

        Could this explain why Stalin went to all the trouble to have a hitman rub out Trotsky, harmless and yakkity-yakking to just about nobody in Mexico? That particular train of events always struck me as somewhat peculiar.

        Meanwhile the revival of admiration for “Good old Uncle Joe” is nurtured across the Russian Federation, something else I find an amazingly incomprehensible development, unless you accept “switched-on amnesia” as an everyday effect.

        Ditto for the Chinese. When I was in Jiangsu Province in 2017 I was guided through a military museum (in a provincial park, for some odd reason) and was astonished to see the restoration of “Close-Comrade-in-Arms” Lin Biao to the panoply of revolutionary fighters. No longer to be humiliated by the digital airbrush.

        Speaking of which, during my three weeks in Yenchang, with revolutionary messages blazoned from gigantic billboards hither and yon, it was doubly-notable that the only place you can see the smiling visage of the piggy-faced mass murderer these days is …

        …on the money. Tell me we don’t live in an Irony Age.

  45. michael November 20, 2020 at 5:17 pm #

    Regrettably Trump never was the man to turn the trajectory of America into a different direction. For this men of a different caliber made of sterner stuff are needed.

    On a clear day we can see that there no such men left in America. Therefore you must tumble on to an unknown destination and drag us along in your turbulent wake.

    • Tate November 20, 2020 at 11:11 pm #

      >>On a clear day we can see that there no such men left in America.<<

      Maybe we need a Maid of Orleans. Or even an Old Maid of Orleans.

  46. Kim November 20, 2020 at 6:50 pm #

    There are those who say DJT is a fraud and a buffoon. And on the other side there are those who say he is a patriot and a 3D chess-playing genius.

    What do you think?

    Here are the new Supreme Court circuit assigments as of Nov. 20, 2020.


    For the District of Columbia Circuit – John G. Roberts, Jr., Chief Justice

    For the First Circuit – Stephen Breyer, Associate Justice
    (Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Puerto Rico, Rhode Island)

    For the Second Circuit – Sonia Sotomayor, Associate Justice
    (Connecticut, New York, Vermont)

    For the Third Circuit – Samuel A. Alito, Jr., Associate Justice
    (Delaware, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virgin Island)

    For the Fourth Circuit – John G. Roberts, Jr., Chief Justice
    (Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, West Virginia, Virginia)

    For the Fifth Circuit – Samuel A. Alito, Jr., Associate Justice
    (Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas)

    For the Sixth Circuit – Brett M. Kavanaugh, Associate Justice
    (Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, Tennessee)

    For the Seventh Circuit – Amy Coney Barrett, Associate Justice (Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin)

    For the Eighth Circuit – Brett M. Kavanaugh, Associate Justice (Arkansas, Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota)

    For the Ninth Circuit – Elena Kagan, Associate Justice
    (Alaska, Arizona, California, Guam, Hawaii, Idaho, Oregon, Montana, Nevada, Northern Mariana Islands, Washington)

    For the Tenth Circuit – Neil M. Gorsuch, Associate Justice
    (Colorado, Kansas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Utah, Wyoming)\

    For the Eleventh Circuit – Clarence Thomas, Associate Justice (Alabama, Florida, Georgia)

    For the Federal Circuit – John G. Roberts, Jr., Chief Justice.

    Hands up anyone who thinks these appointments are accidental.

    And Clarence Thomas to Georgia. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

    Clarence has a very personal relationship with Joe Biden, going back some years.

    How are those Georgia Senate seats looking?

    • HapMan November 20, 2020 at 7:17 pm #


      I see how you have selectively highlighted challenged states (and Minnesota, for some reason) that have been assigned to Republican appointees (while ignoring that Nevada and Arizona are assigned to a Dem appointee).

      But I’m truly curious: what is the connection that you want us to think exists between Trump’s “genius” and the Supreme Court’s circuit assignments?

      • messianicdruid November 21, 2020 at 1:16 am #

        Not genius, Providence.

    • Soul Forensics November 20, 2020 at 7:20 pm #

      There’s a special place in Hell reserved for GA Sec of State Raffensperger and GA Gov Kemp, sub-basement to the 9th circle.

      Tallyrand-Perigord’s “revenge is a dish best served cold” would apply, not just from Thomas to Biden, but Trump to the man he originally promoted — Kemp — which pushed the latter to his victory as Governor.

      Maybe as part of that dish, they could sneak in some ‘special ingredients’, as inspired by Shakespeare’s Titus Andronicus (familial cannibalism), symbolic of a Democrat fallout, eating one’s own.

      • HapMan November 20, 2020 at 7:33 pm #

        When did the Republican electorate go insane?

        • benr November 20, 2020 at 8:24 pm #

          Long after the Democrat electorate looked the other way and became obtuse boot licking authoritarian loving buffoons’.

      • FreddieMars November 21, 2020 at 2:02 am #

        Oh, so now following the Constitution is treasonous. Got it.

    • Q. Shtik November 20, 2020 at 8:24 pm #

      a 3D chess-playing genius.

      What do you think? – Kim


      I think Barron could beat him in Checkers blindfolded.

      • Kim November 20, 2020 at 10:30 pm #

        Did you clear that opinion with your wife?

      • elysianfield November 21, 2020 at 6:46 pm #

        Probably 3D chess. I can only think of twice in the 20/21st centuries where a single candidate’s acumen used the press to advantage and gained power without their consent. Trump’s 2016 election gambit was masterful. Who was the other?

        • SpeedyBB November 22, 2020 at 4:47 pm #

          May I guess, elysianfield?

          The one his enemies smeared as “Franklin Delano Rosenfeld”?

          (The “Delano” part was reportedly a favorite joke of Mussolini’s.)

          • elysianfield November 22, 2020 at 6:40 pm #

            My other example, as I saw it, was Adolf Hitler. It was either he or one of his consorts that opined that even bad press has value….

            Both Adolph and Donald manipulated the opponent press masterfully, and succeeded in public office.

            Both to…mixed results.

  47. Kim November 20, 2020 at 7:16 pm #

    And for those who are curious as to whether the voting machines in Detroit were internet-enabled (illegal) and how they might have been used and compromised, here is an interview with someone who was there and saw it all.


    Is he a reliable eyewitness? Again, lol!


    Patrick J. Colbeck is an aerospace engineer, author, former elected official, and former candidate for governor in Michigan. He is perhaps best known for his service as a Republican two-term member of the Michigan Senate, representing the northwestern portion of Wayne County.

    But does he understand the technology sufficiently well to be a good witness?

    Colbeck is a graduate of Detroit Catholic Central High School. He later graduated from the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor with a Bachelors of Science in Engineering for Aerospace in 1987 and a Masters of Science in Engineering for Aerospace in 1988.

    He went on to study Life Sciences for a summer at the International Space University in Strasbourg, France.[citation needed]

    Colbeck was employed by Boeing as a Senior Design Engineer responsible for components of the Environmental Control and Life Support System and Quest Airlock module for International Space Station.

    He later provided contract systems engineering services to the Department of Defense for work on advanced simulation system for training military forces. Colbeck then served as a Management Consultant and President of Perspective Shifts, LLC.

    He launched Tek Made Easy in 2007 to provide SharePoint-based web services for clients. In 2006, he published the book Information Technology Roadmap for Professional Service Firms.

    He is married to his wife Angie since 1995. They both are members of Northridge Church in Plymouth, Michigan, and call Canton, Michigan home.

    He certainly is a well-qualified witness and comes across very well with his accounts of what he saw.

    Video is worth a watch.

    • FreddieMars November 21, 2020 at 2:00 am #


    • cbeard November 21, 2020 at 7:27 pm #

      Thanks for the Colbeck video.

  48. SouthernYankee November 20, 2020 at 7:21 pm #

    Although the many comments on this blog are thought provoking and informative I have to keep reminding myself of the following: it’s still about Peak Oil, the coming global financial collapse and social upheavals and the fact that, in self imposed exile from NYC’s lunacy, I still can’t good Italian food in Dixie. A trifecta of epic calamities.

    • Kim November 20, 2020 at 7:44 pm #

      Some things are baked into the pie. Like fossil fuel problems.

      On how we handle those things, choices remain to be made.

      And elections have consequences.

      • SouthernYankee November 20, 2020 at 7:56 pm #

        Indeed they do have consequences Kim. If they win in the courts the Dems will not be simply riding another great wave. They’ll be holding that old bag of shit to come.

        • Kim November 20, 2020 at 8:19 pm #

          Holding the bag doesn’t matter. The goal is to have the power. If you hold power, you can “solve” the shitbag problem any way you want.

          Never let an emergency go to waste.

          Besides which, they have been planning for the “emergency” for years.

          • SouthernYankee November 21, 2020 at 1:11 am #

            I hate to say it but you’re probably right Kim, unless…….This time really is different.

    • stelmosfire November 21, 2020 at 8:03 am #

      Good Italian food? My wife ( crazy Italian) has been going crazy with the cookin’ since she is laid off from the Covid shit. First thing in the morning, “what’s for supper?; I’ve gained 20 lbs. Man can that girl cook.

      • elysianfield November 21, 2020 at 6:42 pm #

        I have heard it said;

        “There are two kinds of people…Italians, and people who would like to live like them.”

  49. KesaAnna November 20, 2020 at 8:15 pm #

    ” Most of college debt is held by women (and their parents).

    Its actually just another tax on men to pay off the spending of women. Women thought they could take out all these loans, get awesome degrees, get amazing jobs and earn as much as men. But they didn’t realize that they would actually have to work as hard as men and forgo families.

    Its was really a feminist lie. ”

    Or , maybe they simply didn’t take a gander at history , and the numbers involved , and throw in a big dash of self – flattery .

    Once upon a time , something like a whooping 90% of jobs outside the home were held by men —

    — but then the number of available jobs , good , bad , or indifferent , are roughly the same as before —

    — but women are fully 50 % of the population at any given time. —

    — Bingo ! You just doubled the available labor pool ! —

    — And you could sorta , kinda say that the Deep state , the ruling class , the aristocracy , didn’t do this to you.

    ( SORT OF )

    You ignored the context , the circumstances , and the numbers , which were really very simple numbers.

    ” Most of college debt is held by women (and their parents). ”

    It appears to me that to a significant degree that is the old saw where you say to sons , ” Pull yourself up by your own bootstraps ” ” Cowboy up ! ” etc ,

    But darling little girls must be cared for.

    Except it is not AD 1898 , or even AD 1938.

    And men , themselves , subscribe to these notions .

    They are not necessarily gas-lighted by diabolically devious bitches.

    ( or maybe they are , but women aren’t really that smart , and the pitch isn’t really that convincing ? )

    Maybe instead of giving your daughters ballet lessons , and sending your sons out into the yard to play with a stick , you should do the reverse ?

    Maybe it’s your son who needs the helping hand , and your daughter can take care of herself — or , at least , surely SOMEBODY will take care of her anyway ?

    • Kim November 20, 2020 at 8:39 pm #

      @ Kesa

      Maybe the daughters can all go on Onlyfans and the sons can go into the military?

      • KesaAnna November 20, 2020 at 10:37 pm #

        Indeed , in broad terms , I think that is how it will shake out in the end .

        That is ;

        Onlyfans ( whores )

        The military ( cannon fodder. )

        i.e. Welcome to the year 1745.

        ” …get awesome degrees, get amazing jobs and earn as much as men. ”

        Lol ,

        It’s hard to say whether , ” Men ruled the world ” is male or female snake oil.

        Sure enough , ” Men ruled the world ” —

        — 10% of the male population ruled the world.

        ( That’s a MAXIMUM 10% . In any country , in any culture , and in any era . )

        What about the other 90% of the male population ?

        Reality check ;

        Those jobs fucking sucked.

        And , not unusually , men had to leave home for that suck.

        Sure , you had your fair share of men who were tyrants , and men who were plain monsters , and worse , could afford it.

        But , not uncommonly , ” A Womans place is the kitchen ” meant just as well that women ruled the kitchen , women ruled the nursery , women ruled the living room , and women even ruled the bedroom , and social convention backed her up.

        Things like segregation ?

        Were really more of a collaboration , with only the pretense that women are nicer than they are.

        The difference then was it was blatant , now it’s euphemistic.

        For example , the sort of women generally who go to Brown and Vassar , and who marry physicians and judges , don’t really want to be on a level plain with women who marry ditch – diggers.

        Exclusion used to be phrased as , ” You’re a nigger , so get out ! ”

        Now it is , ” You are scary , so get out ! ”

        I would argue that the latter is worse because it is invincibly opaque and completely un-falsifiable.

        So , anyway , men had to leave their own homes , and go out into a world that really wasn’t so fucking wonderful , commonly just to get a little space.

        I gotta admit it sounds bad , and for everybody.

        Then again …..

        One of my all – time favorite sayings comes from the American Revolution — but from the other side ;

        ” I would rather be ruled by one tyrant 3,000 miles away ( i.e. the King of England ) , than be ruled by 3,000 tyrants one mile away. ”

        Parents , spouses , children , and such can be assholes.

        The alternative , though , is a thousand asshole strangers , and because , ” A thousand heads are better than one ! ”

        They have every possible angle figured out !

        Worse , you can paint the Benders in some terrible colors


        Or Fred and Rosemary West.


        But put them together , and you still don’t even have a corporals guard.

        Painting a hundred thousand strangers black is a very different story , no matter what the Hell they do.

        The Nazis have been painted black , but it took a world war , pre – nuclear weapons , to do it.

        And the never – ending episode of Judge Judy that Western civilization has become , WHATEVER your point of view , and whether you are saint or sinner , you have to be fucking cracked to think it isn’t damned ominous .

        I think it’s a really good bet that the outcome isn’t going to be justice.

  50. aibohphobia November 20, 2020 at 8:31 pm #

    Re: “Evidence presented in court.”
    Excellent! It sure took a long timeto get it there. I wonder if the MSM will bother to send a reporter to cover the Big Reveal?

    Re: Student Loan Slavery for Life:
    This is just the most glaring example of the truly Stupid amount of debt sloshing around in our so-called financial system. I wonder if we really have to follow the usual pathway of Great Depression–> Insurgency/Rebellion–> Financiers and Polititicians with short rope neckties–>burning cities–> Restart of Economy with barter;
    Why not just go straight to the end of the process and skip all the death and destruction in the middle?
    We could print a kazillion electronic dollars and deposit an amount equal to each person’s debt, plus $100,000.00 in each bank account.
    Everyone pays off the banksters with that money and has $100K left over. The value of the money drops to zero. They stop printing greenbacks and start printing bluebacks.
    We all know this is where things are going to end up. Why can’t we just go there now, and get it over with?

    • messianicdruid November 21, 2020 at 2:03 am #

      Usurers are usurpers. Wassamassaw deified below the radar. To repaper repeats the insanity.

      Are we not drawn onward, we few, drawn onward to new era?

      • aibohphobia November 21, 2020 at 8:29 pm #

        Rats live on no evil star…

  51. KesaAnna November 20, 2020 at 8:31 pm #

    ” When did the Republican electorate go insane? ”

    My guess would be right around 1917 , when a Democratic president trotted out the notion that the Kaiser , the Austro – Hungarian Empire , and an Ottoman Empire which certainly had seen better days , were some kind of terrible threat to Kansas.

    And the only alternative to this fucking bullshit is Confederate States of America Part 2.

    Another huge load of bullshit roughly around this time was this business of an income tax being about tax , and not about a great leap forward in invasion of privacy.

    They say that having a gun shoved in your face , literally or figuratively , and not even for good reasons , can create this thing called PTSD , and that can really fuck you up ?

  52. Kim November 20, 2020 at 10:19 pm #


    Law Firm Kirkland and Ellis Withdraws From Representing Pennsylvania Secretary of State After One of its Associates Threatened Trump Attorney

    Should put these anti-civilizational animals into a cage as well.

    And bring back the public stocks.

  53. Kim November 20, 2020 at 10:23 pm #


    So if you are playing football, you don’t have to wear a mask?


  54. Don November 20, 2020 at 10:28 pm #

    James Kunstler’s blog has gone off the tracks. And his followers are now a bunch of right-wing crazies. I used to enjoy this blog, and I really liked Jim’s books. I even got Jim to autograph a copy of World Made by Hand to give to a friend as a gift.

    Hillary called you people “deplorables” and I thought it was elitist and condescending. Reading the comments here, I think she may have been right after all.

    • KesaAnna November 20, 2020 at 10:44 pm #

      Yes , but at least we aren’t plagiarists or parrots. 😀

      Seriously though ,

      this is practically the same damn post , almost every day , for two years , which is somewhere in the ballpark of 690 – 700 + days / 690 – 700 + posts ,

      just a different fucking name pasted on.

      I’m gonna assume it is all different people , and they really are that fucking boring.

      • Kim November 20, 2020 at 11:09 pm #

        Ha ha. Yes, they really are just mailing it in now.

  55. KappaJoe November 20, 2020 at 10:37 pm #

    The canard was: “If voting really mattered, they wouldn’t let you vote.”

    The corollary might be: “If voting really mattered, and you are allowed to vote, then the vote will be rigged.”

    In light of that, there are two kinds of rigging: illegal voting and illegal administration of the voting apparatus – hardware, software, and personnel. Plenty of both have been detected this cycle. It’s a target rich environment.

    • KesaAnna November 20, 2020 at 11:15 pm #

      There’s a third , though maybe it comes under the heading of administration of the voting apparatus.

      The circumstance that the Sheriff is a Republican , the Mayor a Democrat , the Judge a Republican , the DA a Democrat , adds up to a kind of neutrality.

      Not necessarily so . All these myriad Republicans and Democrats have at least one thing in common , clap – trap about the virtues of competition not withstanding ;

      They don’t really want a third , fourth , or tenth competitor in the race .

      If , for no other reason , there is a discounting of significance or status in numbers.

      Two people say a third person is crazy or criminal can have real teeth ,

      but two people say a tenth person is crazy or criminal , and two more say something else , and two more say yet again something different …. maybe not so much then.

      Granted , it’s not a one – party state ,

      but then it has been a two – party , and ONLY a two – party , state , for over 100 years , and over a region of 350 million people currently , and four time zones.

      There’s a lot of devil in the details in that history , so I’ll just skip to the present.

      What is REALLY “BAD ” about Donald Trump is that he is , I suspect , NEITHER Republican or Democrat.

      I really doubt he is Hitler , I think it merely an INCREMENTAL deviancy ,

      More like Kamanev , Zinonviev , and Bukharin . That is , in this particular case a slight deviation gets blown up into a world – ending mortal threat.

      I guess , ” the particular case ” being that the system really is that rigid and brittle.

      • benr November 21, 2020 at 6:08 am #

        Or intolerant of anyone not stepping and fetching the official narrative of either party.
        That of course is the point and why the technocrats, Socialists, and Rinos hate him and the hoi polloi are supportive.

  56. JohnAZ November 20, 2020 at 10:51 pm #

    I have told the blog before that our family gets royalties from a plot of land in the Eagleford formation in Texas.

    Here is an interesting group of data that supports what JHK has said about fracking.

    This is more fun than the election anyway.

    Our oil well started production in August 2018. I will show a few of the monthly output in barrels from this well. It was drilled to 10000 feet.


    Aug. 5647
    Sept. 11942
    Oct. 10975
    Nov. 9904


    Jan. 9479
    June 4442
    Dec. 3422


    Mar. 3211
    Aug. 2400

    No reports since

    Total production 128256

    Casihghead gas production also falling but interesting note. When the oil production drops, the gas production goes up for a couple of months.

    Anyway, it fits the model that has been discussed. Our first well, drilled to 5000 feet, lasted about six years and petered out just the same.

    • KesaAnna November 20, 2020 at 11:40 pm #

      Thanks , really. Interesting.

      I like mundane logistical – type stuff sometimes.

      But ; Fun , or frightening ?

      Always before civilization rested on food surplus.

      Now it rests on cheap oil and coal.

      ” Total production 128256 ” I’m probably full of shit , but that strikes me as like unto putting a quarter in the Marvelous , Mystical , Psychic Prediction Machine , and it spits out the date of my death.



    • benr November 21, 2020 at 6:15 am #

      I lived in Santa Clarita a small at the time suburb of Los Angeles.
      In the early 70’s the oil pumps in the area gave out and the started capping off the wells. At one point the area had enough output they put in an oil refinery which functioned well enough the area was not hit so hard during the Jimmy Carter era Opec problems that created crazy gas lines.
      Flash forward a couple of decades and lo and behold some of them are now oozing oil again and the local creeks are starting to have nasty gobs of oil washing down when it rains hard enough.
      Crazy Russian scientist put out a theory of Abiotic oil.


  57. Kim November 20, 2020 at 11:07 pm #

    Sidney Powell speaks to Glenn Beck.

    Yes, Cytl servers were seized in Germany and yes, she believes it was the white hats, who are now working on them.

    “I am hearing it was our forces who got those servers,” she says.


    • Q. Shtik November 20, 2020 at 11:37 pm #

      Yes, Cytl servers were seized in Germany – Kim


      For what it’s worth… there was an article in yesterday’s NYT saying that the ‘servers-in-Germany-story’ is a total fabrication… that the company in question has no facilities in Germany whatsoever. I was actually amazed to see the NYT even addressing this story. Their usual tactic is simply to ignore anything that might give an iota of credence to Trump’s side of the story.

      • Kim November 21, 2020 at 12:37 am #

        I believe that the NYT also told us “Russia, Russia, Russia!”


      • Night Owl November 21, 2020 at 4:35 am #

        The NYT is a garbage barge that has lied to you on a daily basis. Yet like most drones, you continue to read it.

        Sidney Powell confirmed the raid, in a recent interview.

        And the company is called Scytl.

        • FreddieMars November 21, 2020 at 6:40 am #

          She said “I’m hearing that…” – is that sufficient to be a confirmation now? Your evidence bar is slipping.

          • Kim November 21, 2020 at 7:47 am #

            @ FreddieMars

            1. Yes. I know what she said. I am the one who quoted her.

            2. My “evidence bar”? This blog is not a court of law, you nitwit.

          • Yohannon November 21, 2020 at 12:33 pm #

            “You take a mess of killing white boy” – Hawaii Five O, old series. Black thug speaking to Danno as he beat him.

          • FreddieMars November 22, 2020 at 1:54 am #

            ’ This blog is not a court of law, you nitwit.’

            Could have fooled me! Your doppelgänger troll is always insisting on “evidence” – it’s the only trope he’s got.

            The “ad hom” level is slipping too, but that’s welcome.

          • Night Owl November 22, 2020 at 4:34 am #

            And the evidence is the one thing you can never provide, Jello,

            I see that your anger level is rising as the exposure of the fraud draws nearer.


          • FreddieMars November 22, 2020 at 8:28 pm #

            Night Owl

            No anger here. I find myself laughing at you, constantly – oh – that’ll be “LOL”, in fact.

            You keep referring to me as some other, previous poster. Monotonous & tiresome. Whatever gets you self-excited, go for it.

            Your other monotonous and tiresome schtick is demanding evidence, which when offered, is disparaged cynically and relentlessly. Your own ‘evidence’ is no more than a neverending stream of links to tweets from a cohort of self-appointed ‘investigators’ who are decidedly of the conspiratorial theorist bent. If you look at the world through such a lens, there’s no surprise about what you see.

            So, when Ms. Powell’s ‘Kraken’ turns out to be a pygmy cuttlefish (even with its striking ability to change its camouflage at will), and the whole enterprise you support so vociferously consigned to the garbage pile of history, what will you have to say then? (I can easily imagine, your being so predictable…)

      • Yohannon November 21, 2020 at 12:31 pm #

        You said, if memory serves, that you had cancelled your subscription? Did you weaken and return to the fold? Or was it a lie to begin with?

        • Q. Shtik November 21, 2020 at 2:15 pm #

          You said, if memory serves, that you had cancelled your subscription? – Yoha


          Your memory does NOT serve. Never said that.

          • Yohannon November 21, 2020 at 5:34 pm #

            What did you cancel then?

  58. JohnAZ November 21, 2020 at 3:41 am #


    My great grandfather was an oil man in Western PA and Ohio in early 1900 when he bought the land in Texas. Everyone thought he was nuts.

    Last laugh is his.

    You are probably getting small return on regular well. These fracking wells have delivered about a thousand a month during the early phase, and will deliver 250 to 500 for the remainder of its life.

    • Amman November 21, 2020 at 4:08 am #

      What about his sons? Are they smiling today?

  59. Night Owl November 21, 2020 at 6:06 am #

    Very thorough interview with Sidney Powell here. Covers the major questions from the press conference the other day, and much more.


  60. Kim November 21, 2020 at 7:41 am #

    Sidney Powell is pressed pretty hard by interviewer Larry O’Connor of “Examining Politics” who concedes that the Dominion software manual does specify certain capabilities for fraud but still, he asks Ms Powell, how can you prove those capabilities were in fact used on Election night?

    Powell answers that we can prove it bcs there are internet technologies that allow snapshots of the frauds to be taken as they are committed.


    Phone interview towards the bottom of the page.


    • Kim November 21, 2020 at 7:55 am #

      Oops. Same interview as linked by Night Owl above.

      • stelmosfire November 21, 2020 at 8:12 am #

        I don’t get it. Powell and Lin. Reputations on the line. How can they put this stuff out there? I hope they can produce. But my hopes are fading. Ya gotta admit the Biden numbers don’t add up.. But what’s a dude to do? Suck it up and dig a hole to lie in?

        • stelmosfire November 21, 2020 at 8:15 am #

          Sleepy Joe and the Ho. Pulled a fast one and will put a nail into my country.

          • stelmosfire November 21, 2020 at 8:20 am #

            Fuk da gubiner, Charlie Baker RINO piece of shit. I figure probably 15-20 miscreants over for a smoked turkey on Thanksgiving with some homemade vino and stout.

          • malthuss November 21, 2020 at 10:03 am #

            Pulled a fast one and will put a nail into my country.

            I guess its the overlords that ‘pulled a fast one’ and
            put another nail into my country. s casket.

          • elysianfield November 21, 2020 at 6:37 pm #

            “Sleepy Joe and the Ho”


            Sleepy Joe, and the Ho, ran for public office,
            Said the Ho to Sleepy Joe, “just keep the spotlight off us”,
            “Make no mistake, no chances take, let’s hide until there’s closure “,
            “Well”, said Joe to the Ho, “Wake me when the shooting starts, you dog faced pony soldier….”

        • elysianfield November 21, 2020 at 11:03 am #

          “… dig a hole to lie in…”

          My sediments, exactly.

          I, too, am becoming alarmed at the turn of events. Hope is fleeting…reality approaches. The country is polarized. There will be a certain percentage of the country’s citizens that will not accept the results. Perhaps a very large percentage.

          Dig a deeper hole.

          • beantownbill. November 21, 2020 at 11:36 am #

            I’m selling holes for only $295 apiece. They can be custom made, with upgrades at a reasonable price. They are a whole bunch of nothings.

          • Yohannon November 21, 2020 at 12:53 pm #

            Despaireth not. Karl Rittenhouse had made bail and is home for Thanksgiving. Think he will ever stand trial? Not if Trump wins. No doubt Herr Rittenhouse will be given command over ten or a hundred men, and win glory on Earth or in the Heavens should he fall.


          • stelmosfire November 22, 2020 at 7:25 am #

            EF, I have a nice spidey hole in the brier patch. Rue the fool who perchance crosses my line of fire. HaHaHaHa. Just kitten.

        • Night Owl November 21, 2020 at 11:49 am #


          Why would your hopes be fading? The evidence goes to the court, not to Tucker Carlson or some dopey McMedia outlet.

          • elysianfield November 21, 2020 at 1:28 pm #

            I have been reading the conservative blogs, and have heard nothing that sounds like “victory” reported from any challenges. I succumb to the reported consensus. I know that all news should be taken as suspect, but, like winter and the lack of sunlight, there breeds ennui….

            I would be entirely satisfied if there is a court overview…a Supreme Court overview, but those promises seem as ephemeral as the suggested outrages.

            I have a very real and significant personal stake in various Amendments to the Constitution.

            Very significant.

          • Soul Forensics November 21, 2020 at 2:00 pm #


            Lots of conservative pundits predicting a Trump victory. Check out Steve Bannon’s War Room Pandemic, 6 days a week, up to 4 hours a day coverage with many guests from all angles. You can catch the podcast on americasvoice.news, and other sporadic outlets, but they’ve been cancelled or suspended by a ton of other sites including facebook and twitter which should tell you all you need to know right there about the fears of the Deep State.

            It’s ignore and cancel from them in an attempt to run out the clock. And the evidence continues to pile up day by day..

          • Night Owl November 21, 2020 at 2:03 pm #

            The evidence has not gone to court. Powell wouldn’t even drop Tucker any hints.

          • Q. Shtik November 21, 2020 at 2:37 pm #

            I would be entirely satisfied if there is a court overview…a Supreme Court overview, – elysian


            Does anyone here know what the procedure is for getting the Supreme court to look into the claims of fraud spoken of by Sydney Powell? For example, does it take a vote by all 9 justices or does justice Roberts call the shots on his own?

            There’s not much time left (23 days) till the Elec College has to vote/certify.

            If the 9 justices have to agree to take the case (let us say by a majority vote of 5 to 4, or greater) might they not reject the case simply on the unspoken grounds that it would likely cause Civil War #2? Might not refusing to take the case, in itself, cause CW2?

            What we have here is a real dilemma!

          • elysianfield November 21, 2020 at 5:50 pm #

            I do not think the justices of the SC can randomly, without briefs presented to the court, determine subject matter. I think it requires action from a lower court.

            As I understand the process.

          • FreddieMars November 23, 2020 at 3:47 am #

            “The evidence goes to court.” Not so far…

      • FreddieMars November 22, 2020 at 1:55 am #

        Seiner doppelgänger…

        • Night Owl November 22, 2020 at 4:32 am #

          Two mistakes.


          • FreddieMars November 22, 2020 at 8:35 pm #

            Yes. I see “Sein” and capital D. Thanks.

          • FreddieMars November 23, 2020 at 3:45 am #

            I won’t point out YOUR regular typos and misspellings, though. What a waste of energy.

  61. ghost of freedom November 21, 2020 at 9:37 am #


    “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–

    That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, —

    That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

    Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

    But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.”

    Declaration of Independence

    • beantownbill. November 21, 2020 at 11:29 am #

      IMHO, this first part of the DOI is the greatest political document ever written.

      My only comment is that “all men are created equal” means all men are created equally worthy. They all start out that way, but how they live their lives ultimately determines whether ‘equally worthy’ remains.

      • elysianfield November 21, 2020 at 6:16 pm #

        “IMHO, this first part of the DOI is the greatest political document ever written.

        My only comment is that “all men are created equal” means all men are created equally worthy. They all start out that way, but how they live their lives ultimately determines whether ‘equally worthy’ remains

        How many of the signatory were slave owners? What did they mean in context of the time?

        What is the meaning of…”is”?

        • messianicdruid November 21, 2020 at 9:29 pm #

          Equal before the law. She wears a blindfold and carries a sword.

    • Yohannon November 21, 2020 at 12:37 pm #

      The Suicide Clause. No oversight that – not like the first amendment according to the Biden team, lol.

      Let it rip. To Hell or Connaught. Burn the boats. No retreat.

  62. ghost of freedom November 21, 2020 at 9:40 am #

    You goy can’t possibly be the progeny of the MEN with the big balls AND brains who faught and won a revolution against the leading empire of the world and founded the greatest country this world has seen.


    • SvrzoH November 21, 2020 at 10:09 am #

      Understand the sentiment.
      How many glasses you had so far?

  63. Night Owl November 21, 2020 at 11:48 am #

    Check this out. Trump tweeting about fraud in the context of Romney and Obama now.

    This may be far more epic than I anticipated!


    • FreddieMars November 22, 2020 at 2:00 am #

      Finally!!! The Great Steal Reveal is coming!!! The anticipation level has been wound up to eleven! Don’t let us down Sts Rudi & Sid!

      • Night Owl November 22, 2020 at 4:30 am #

        Time to place bets on your new screen name once it is all over.

        May I suggest “Definitely Not Jello.”

        • FreddieMars November 23, 2020 at 3:44 am #

          Thanks! That way, if I ever am banned, you’ll know I’m back.

          • Night Owl November 23, 2020 at 8:45 am #

            You gave the game away long ago.

            And your German is still shit.


  64. beantownbill. November 21, 2020 at 11:48 am #

    Sometimes I have to act wacky to save my sanity, so please forgive my strange posts. I’m contemplating that God also has a weird sense of humor, otherwise why would he have created such an absurd world?

    • Pucker November 21, 2020 at 11:49 am #

      I sent a message to my Connecticut Congressman asking him to support a Congressional investigation into Dominion Voting Systems, Inc.

      On his official website, the lead banner is a clarion call to stop violence against transgenders. It implies that there’s this big holocaust of transgenders by white people. I guess that this is the Number 1 issue facing the country now? My Congressman who is married with 2 kids and who graduated from Harvard looks like a Pete Buttigieg clone.

      The Society is insane….

      • beantownbill. November 21, 2020 at 1:30 pm #

        It isn’t insane, it’s actually very logical. You see, if violence against transgenders stops, then our oil problems would cease, as well as climate change. Our population would stabilize, our oceans become clean and we’ll all get rich as the economy takes off. It’s really as obvious as the nose on your face. You gotta get a grip, Puck. Everything will be fine, and your congressman will become president.

  65. Pucker November 21, 2020 at 12:11 pm #

    Americans are dumb and dumb in a very bizarre, dishonest, and naive sort of way? A bizarre combination of dishonesty, laziness, and inability to think. So they support torture, BLM, censorship, and they think that Orange Man is literally Hitler, and that white cops are out hunting down and murdering black people and transgenders. Obtuse…. Almost like Zombies?


    • SoftStarLight November 21, 2020 at 1:03 pm #

      Oh dear! There isn’t any cure for zombism. So is this what the zombie apocalypse is like? Droves of “people” devouring pieces of a carcass known as the great cosmopolitan business hub soul for sale and corporation formerly known as the “United States”.

  66. Yohannon November 21, 2020 at 1:23 pm #

    Fox News

    The leader of President-elect Joe Biden’s transition team for federal media outlets has, in the past, publicly endorsed both weakening the First Amendment and governments’ use of propaganda on their own citizens.

    Richard Stengel, a former State Department official under President Obama and a past editor of Time magazine, argued in a Washington Post op-ed last October that “America needs a hate speech law.” But he also raised questions about why the First Amendment protects things like book burnings and fake news.

    “As a government official traveling around the world championing the virtues of free speech, I came to see how our First Amendment standard is an outlier,” he wrote. “Even the most sophisticated Arab diplomats that I dealt with did not understand why the First Amendment allows someone to burn a Koran.”

    He is the Biden-Harris Transition Team’s lead official for the US Agency for Global Media (USAGM), which oversees efforts to support “freedom and democracy” in countries around the world, especially where they don’t have their own free press. Its entities include Voice of America, Radio Free Asia and the Middle East Broadcasting Networks.

    A spokesman for Biden’s transition did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

    In the 2019 op-ed, Stengel argued that “the marketplace of ideas,” which the Founders believed would cause truth to prevail over false information when both were available freely, “was engineered for a simpler era.” Due to social media, he wrote, lies can win out – as fake news planted by Russia’s Internet Research Agency was intended to during the 2016 elections.

    “All speech is not equal,” he wrote. “And where truth cannot drive out lies, we must add new guardrails. I’m all for protecting ‘thought that we hate,’ but not speech that incites hate.”

    And at a forum hosted by the Council on Foreign Relations, a foreign policy think tank, in 2018, he appeared to embrace propaganda and its use by governments on their own citizens and others.

    “My old job at the State Department was what people used to joke as the chief propagandist’s job,” he said. “I’m not against propaganda. Every country does it, and they have to do it to their own population. And I don’t necessarily think it’s that awful.”

    Yohoeth: His facile “I’m all for protecting thought that we hate” is obvious trickery. All of it will banned as speech that incites hate. This what Bidenites votes for – and most of them will be fine with it – though not what comes with it.

    • beantownbill. November 21, 2020 at 1:42 pm #

      There was a reason why free speech was the first amendment to the Constitution.

      I wonder if Stengel is related to Casey Stengel. Casey’s logic was on a level with Yogi Berra’s; they were an interesting pair. Casey became president of a bank after he retired. Could that explain why our banking system is so fucked up? Richard ought to be locked up in a time-release bank vault.

      • Yohannon November 21, 2020 at 8:25 pm #

        Bought a book you might like, one that I’ve seen around for decades but never got around to: “The Third Millennium: A History of the World AD 2000-3000. Even though it was written back in ’85, he saw a lot of the issues that are now apparent to us, and his capacity for intelligent fantasy is superb. If you liked Niven’s future historical approach, you’d probably like this.

        Casey Stengel was one of yours? This one is, apparently. Ball player to banker? Not the usual trajectory for these guys. Wouldn’t be possible even back then unless you had family connections, probably.

        • beantownbill. November 21, 2020 at 9:40 pm #

          Thanks. I do like Niven.

          Casey Stengel was a Christian, not a Jew. He led an interesting life. He was the hero of a 19 teen world series. I’ve heard him on tv; it was like he had a wandering mind. A reporter would ask him a question, he’d start to answer it and in a second he’d be off on a tangent; very funny. In a way it was like Yogi, but different. Yogi answered questions, no wandering off, but you know the result. Both he and Casey were one-of-kind. I can’t imagine the 1950’s Yankees dugout, what with Mickey Mantle, Whitey Ford (as an aside, Ford couldn’t have his nickname today; politically incorrect) and Billy Martin either drunk or hung over, with Stengel and Berra jabbering in the background. BTW, I was always a Red Sox fan back then; it was very frustrating.

          • BackRowHeckler November 23, 2020 at 6:23 am #

            IOW, you were rooting for Frank Malzone, Bill Mombouqette, and Rico Petrocelli.

  67. Pucker November 21, 2020 at 1:39 pm #

    Student Loans

    The kids are all going Communist because of their student loans and because they have no future.


    • SoftStarLight November 21, 2020 at 4:24 pm #

      I thought you said that the “kids” were zombified because of being dishonest, lazy, and unthinking and now you say it’s student loans. But how many parasites who “teach” at these universities are doing just fine materially and financially and have knowingly and intentionally profited from the student loan scheme? Once again, the solution is simple. Bulldoze and burn out the termite nests otherwise known as universities and colleges and take their profits and assets and redistribute them to all of the students they defrauded. Once they are done they are done. But no, that will not happen because this system is parasitic and dedicated to the continual feeding of the bloodsucking hosts who will happily tell you that they are communists and care if it makes you feel better and go away.

  68. tucsonspur November 21, 2020 at 1:48 pm #

    Biden is in. Trump is out, looking like a beaten dog after crapping on the carpet. Who would have thought it, Biden-Harris winning even after a near and a full wash out in the primaries. You can see it, Trump’s ego crushed like an empty milk carton run over by a Kenilworth.

    Yes, who would have thunk it, that Biden could win after months of rioting and looting, even killing, and after nationwide attacks on police departments and calls for their defunding or elimination? The group that knew how to work the switch, that’s who. From the beginning, they continuously increased the voltage, made it so high that it bridged the gap and put the zap on Trump.

    Then of course came the covid marlinspike, maliciously mauling His Majesty without mercy, and creating the covid civil wars.

    Now it’s bad enough that Biden is in, but to have Harris pop up again like that proverbial bad penny is enough to make your head spin. Not quite like Obama, wherever the hell he was born, but a black-brown pop up that many Americans seem to adore, like some new born savior sent to end their suffering. It’s just fucking disgusting.

    You knew it was all over last week, when Tucker started talking about how great this country still is, referring mostly to its national parks and somewhat to its people. Is it great in this case that we still have a peaceful transition of power, is it really? I’m sure that Tucker was aware of the irony, so his words were meant to sooth and heal, but WTF?

    AOC and Ilhan Omar are already demanding a role in the new administration, and if one can think at all, one can’t help but think about past wars and American soldiers paying the ultimate price for their country. Of course they couldn’t know it would lead to this. Ponderous questions arise about war, life and death, Constitutions, patriotism, and nationhood, questions that have only complicated answers if they have any answers at all.

    On top of all this is the fantastic number of votes for Biden, about 80 million. With numbers like those, fraud comes to mind almost immediately. I mean it’s Biden for God’s sake. If it’s not fraud, it’s simply an astounding accomplishment by the Democrats and a testament to the efficacy of their tactics, and also a lesson on how not to handle a pandemic.

    • elysianfield November 21, 2020 at 6:01 pm #

      “a lesson on how not to handle a pandemic.”


      Well, how do you, then, handle a pandemic? As far as I know, no one has ever successfully done so. The rest of the world seems to be following our lead as to our methods.

      If indeed a pandemic, then I have no qualms with the way it has been handled so far. Don’t like the consequences, but I hold Trump and the rest of the Administration blameless.

      Show us a verifiable, “successful handling”….

      • tucsonspur November 21, 2020 at 7:11 pm #

        Well, we just disagree. My argument has been that Trump could have showed more caring and concern regarding the public’s health. And I don’t want anyone else deciding whether I might panic or not over serious and dangerous news. Talk about freedom.

        C’mon Ely, he continually downplayed the virus, practically scoffed at it, and look at what we have now.

        What he should have done, say around June, is recommend the mask, not mandate it, recommend it, and sent out millions of MAGA masks or American flag masks and wore one often himself.

        Remember, so much is image and perception. It seems like how effective the mask is will be debated ’til doomsday, but as I said before, that’s another issue. What we wanted was an empathetic leader, not a pathetic one.

        • Yohannon November 21, 2020 at 11:34 pm #

          He seems to have intuited or realized early on that it was going to be the basis for a Globalist campaign of terror and takeover. Thus his relative indifference was an attempt to stymie them – obviously a failed attempt. Then he jumped in and tried to lead the effort, no doubt hoping to lead it to a saner conclusion than permanent masking and distancing.

          • tucsonspur November 22, 2020 at 3:29 am #

            No, I think he realized that the virus would be used against him, and was worried more about the upcoming election
            rather than about any global takeover. He wasn’t intuitive enough to see the correct play, which was to make the virus work for him.

            Not to say that he wasn’t concerned about future attempts by the globalists to expand even further and terrorize the entire local supercluster of galaxies, but his more immediate concern was the up coming election here on earth.

            It’s sad to say, but even if I was his chief advisor, he wouldn’t listen to me and would probably have me fired. If not a win, I could have gotten him a lot closer.

        • cbeard November 22, 2020 at 1:28 pm #

          What we have now is not nearly as deadly and dangerous as the fake news media would have you believe. Empathy be damned. I want a leader that will call bullshit and lies when it is obvious.

          • tucsonspur November 22, 2020 at 3:50 pm #

            Sure, call out the BS. Don’t be empathetic to the MSM, right.

            The virus is dangerous enough. Just be empathetic to those who have caught it. Good politics. Image and perception, like I said.

        • elysianfield November 22, 2020 at 2:28 pm #

          Well, maybe Trump did have compassion…do you think the MSM would relay that bit of humanity? The point I am making is that there is no proven road map for the issue…he responds, clumsily perhaps, to his advisors and other inputs. TO THIS DAY NO ONE REALLY KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON.

          Make your choices, and live with them.

          • tucsonspur November 22, 2020 at 3:58 pm #


            If Trump had compassion he should have shown it, wouldn’t need the MSM. Instead he showed defiance.

    • sprawlcapital November 21, 2020 at 11:28 pm #

      I heard that segment by Tucker Carlson about America being still the best. Among other things, he noted that we rescue dogs, not eat them. That was funny, but he also stated that music has never been better. That’s absurd. Whether country or rock, popular music is now consistently bad. In a discussion of law and order recently, Tucker noted that because of a crime wave 50 years ago, “half of Brooklyn moved to Long Island”. Brooklyn is on Long Island.

      Tucker is slipping.

      By the way, Kenilworth is a city in Illinois. The truck brand is Kenworth.

      • tucsonspur November 22, 2020 at 3:02 am #

        Tucker should have known better, but Brooklyn is a world of its own. Many don’t make the association.

        Thanks for the correction, where that came from I have no idea.

  69. Q. Shtik November 21, 2020 at 3:00 pm #

    Today is a BIG day for me. I reached the BIG Eight Oh. 80 years old. It is very unlikely I will see another birthday number ending in zero.

    Wondering if I’m the oldest regular commenter on this blog?

    My next goal is to still be alive on June 9, 2025. That would make me a day older than the age my mother reached and older than all family males and females from late 1800s to present.

    Gift suggestions:
    Blue Moon Belgian White beer
    Jameson Whiskey

    • Soul Forensics November 21, 2020 at 3:20 pm #


      I’m only 64. I’ve already outlasted all the males in my nuclear family, so, despite health problems, it’s all gravy for me. I bless each day, one at a time.

      It’s also heartwarming to observe those over 80 still being able to enjoy booze, too.

    • elysianfield November 21, 2020 at 5:55 pm #

      Excellent! Congratulations. I would hope that the wifely unit is disposed to dispense the gift of personal favors on this auspicious of days, and hope that you accept that gift with enthusiasm….

      • Q. Shtik November 22, 2020 at 2:59 pm #

        I would hope that the wifely unit is disposed to dispense the gift of personal favors on this auspicious of days, – elysian


        If you are speaking of sex I’m afraid my days of raging libido and roses are long over. She did, however, rub some moisturizing skin cream into my dry and flaky lower legs.

    • tucsonspur November 21, 2020 at 6:10 pm #

      I thought I was the oldest here. You beat me, but not by much.

      They say 80 is the new sixty, or is it fifty? Forty? Haha. Hey, it’s only a number, right?

    • stelmosfire November 21, 2020 at 9:18 pm #

      So I was born in ’57. peak of the baby boom. More kids born in 1957 in the USA than any year before or since., We are weevils and we have power. My local school system says they are are overcrowded. All my siblings are /were school teachers and they think the COVID is the tombs. My sisters have not worked in months. The students are dying.

    • cbeard November 22, 2020 at 1:34 pm #

      Happy Birthday. I am not familiar with the particular beer mentioned, but have an extra shot of Jameson for me.

    • benr November 22, 2020 at 10:27 pm #

      Happy birthday!

  70. Q. Shtik November 21, 2020 at 3:24 pm #

    For what it’s worth… there was an article in yesterday’s NYT saying that the ‘servers-in-Germany-story’ is a total fabrication – Q.


    The article in question appeared Thurs 11/19 on page A21. It was titled Distortions
    A Made-Up Raid For a Fake Server From an Office That Never Was

    Maybe you can Google-up the article.

    • stelmosfire November 22, 2020 at 8:05 am #

      Q, you old fart. Get on that bike and ride. Put on the leather pants and cruise for the bruise.

      • Q. Shtik November 22, 2020 at 1:38 pm #

        Q, you old fart. Get on that bike and ride. – stelmo


        I definitely intend to ride as an octogenarian, weather permitting. The temp here all afternoon today is forecasted to be 50 degrees and overcast… not good for a ride. I DID put 86 miles on the machine a week ago but that doesn’t count because I was only 79.

        Speaking of bruises, you may recall my story of taking a spill, injuring my knee and damaging my bike. Well, that happened on May 15 and my knee still has a remnant of the scrape and bruise.

  71. Q. Shtik November 21, 2020 at 3:40 pm #

    The other day I had occasion to go to my town’s Boro Hall (I had screwed up and was late paying my property tax). On my way out of the building I spotted 16 huge letters painted on the street out front. They read BLACK LIVES MATTER. The block letters were at least 6′ high, maybe more.

    If ever there is a place that does not require this message it would be my home town. We have a very small Black population and are the bluest of the blue politically. I intend to find out how much this paint job cost the taxpayers, which Boro Council Board member suggested it, and what the vote was on the proposal. I’m guessing unanimous.

    • Soul Forensics November 21, 2020 at 4:12 pm #

      That’s the woke contribution to public Art: replacing monuments and statues with vulgar political graffiti.

      • SoftStarLight November 21, 2020 at 4:41 pm #

        I say such jurisdictions be forced to put their money where there mouth is and forfeit over everthing and that includes everything within them over to BLM as reparations. Of course, places that do not support BLM will not have to participate in the program whatsoever.

      • BackRowHeckler November 21, 2020 at 5:07 pm #

        Beautiful Memorial Park in Richmond now a squalid wasteland of weeds, trash and grafitti, the result of BLM ‘Activists’ peaceful protests last summer.

        American cities without statuary or any kind of public monuments, artless, brutal 3rd World Welfare Colonies with no past and no future, just the bloody here and now based upon grievance and hatred, and whatever free sh#t that can be looted from the local Nike sneaker store, ATM, or QuikiMart.


    • Yohannon November 21, 2020 at 5:45 pm #

      No Blacks live there because of racism.

  72. toktomi November 21, 2020 at 4:49 pm #

    ? News Propaganda
    • vaccines on fast track & soon to be available
    • covid virus mutates
    • presidential election still in limbo, may become explosive
    • high reluctance to accepting covid vaccination
    • need to convince entire populace to accept vaccinations
    • covid cases surging
    ? Masked appearance has become normal.
    ? Supply lines of goods have been reconfigured.
    ? Prices of goods and services surging except for food and fuel.
    ? The end of exponential industrial growth now has a fork in it.
    ? A human die-off remains inevitable.
    ? Nothing tastes right.
    ? Large wildfires might make excellent dispersal mechanisms for certain compounds.
    ? The difference between cows and humans | humans don’t require loud noises or electric prods to be moved in any particular direction.
    ? Edward Snowden is an asset; Chelsea is a rogue; Julian is dead.
    CONCLUSIONS [tentative]
    ? The dots do not connect.
    ? This bug, #19 probably is not the depop vector.
    ? The need to move the herd slowly does not fully explain the excruciating snail’s pace of this take down of industrial existence of the masses.

    Oh, well, considering that being right can never be discerned and being wrong is simply an accepted given, speculation becomes the mind’s internal version of a video game, that is, a gratifying behavior that yields virtually no productive results.

    …nobody here but us chickens

  73. tom clark November 21, 2020 at 5:58 pm #

    Thanks to Buffy St. Marie, for those who may remember her (she’s still alive and kickin’,BTW)

    Little wheels spin and spin, big wheels turn around and around
    Merry Christmas, Jingle Bells, Christ is born and the devil’s in hell
    Hearts they shrink, pockets swell
    Everybody know and nobody tell’

    Blame the angels, blame the fates
    Blame the Jews and your sister Kate
    Teach your children who to hate
    And the big wheel spin around and around.

    G’nitte Kim

    • BackRowHeckler November 21, 2020 at 7:28 pm #

      Ronny Spector is still alive too, lives right down the road here. Up till a few years ago she’d make appearances at local country fairs, still sounding and looking pretty good.

      • malthuss November 21, 2020 at 11:59 pm #

        she survived Phil Spector, unlike a local gal who I met who was a good friend of a good friend.

        Another person I knew was held captive by him and a neighbors dad had a gun held to his head by Phil.

      • elysianfield November 22, 2020 at 11:52 am #

        “Ronny Spector is still alive too, lives right down the road here”

        Goddamnit! I knew it!

    • beantownbill. November 21, 2020 at 9:47 pm #

      My mother worked with Buffy’s aunt. Her aunt would always tell my mother what Buffy was up to, and then I would learn it from my mom. BTW, Buffy is Italian, not a Native American.

      • malthuss November 22, 2020 at 12:01 am #

        Buffy Sainte-Marie was born in 1941[3][4] on the Piapot 75 reserve in the Qu’Appelle Valley, Saskatchewan, Canada.[5]

        She was abandoned as an infant and then adopted by Albert and Winifred Sainte-Marie, a Wakefield, Massachusetts couple of Mi’kmaq descent.[6][7]

        She attended the University of Massachusetts Amherst, earning degrees in teaching and Oriental philosophy[8] and graduating in the top ten of her class.[9][


        • beantownbill. November 22, 2020 at 2:45 pm #

          That is what they want you to believe. Wiki isn’t always accurate. Buffy’s aunt’s name was Santamaria and she was definitely Italian.

          • FreddieMars November 23, 2020 at 3:41 am #

            An Aunt? Perhaps a biological uncle married someone named Santamaria? Proving/disproving what?

      • stelmosfire November 22, 2020 at 8:17 am #

        Ah, a paesano, sweet. I love Italian food and Italian women.

        • stelmosfire November 22, 2020 at 8:21 am #

          Tempers, cookin, shootin’ and good lovin’ The alps with dark hair and blue eyes. WOW.

        • beantownbill. November 22, 2020 at 2:46 pm #

          I agree.

  74. Sean Coleman November 21, 2020 at 6:28 pm #

    I have no faith in the justice system anywhere. Collective fantasy undermines institutions. I have always believed that Britain’s institutions were always more robust than those here in Ireland, which themselves would not be the worst.

    Back in May, or so, two brave former journalists here, John Waters and Gemma O’Doherty, took a case in the High Court challenging the constitutionality of the government’s disgraceful and foolish reaction to this alleged virus crisis. The leading judge whose lot it should have fallen to to preside recused himself on some technicality amid suspicion that he did not want to risk sullying his reputation if and when the whole sorry mess was understood in the future.

    Early hearing at the Four Courts in Dublin attracted a small but noisy crowd who defied the 5km ban. For the last hearings there was ring of steel reminiscent of the War of Independence a hundred years ago. Plain-clothes police had been reported as swaggering insolently around Heuston Railway Station with their clothing bulging with guns (an unprecedented development).

    The case was thrown out, after a very long delay of course, on the grounds that the plaintiffs had not prepared their scientific evidence. This was nonsense because they were merely applying for leave at this case to take out a judicial review. It is then that the evidence would be considered.

    They were made to seem foolish when the judgement reported that they had compared the lack of civil liberties with what happened in Nazi Germany. How absurd, how conspiratorial!

    Waters later explained that they had merely been quoting Jonathan Lord Sumption, former member of the Supreme Court and one of Britain’s most eminent legal experts. It was he who had made the comparison with Hitler’s Germany.

    I have heard about the deficiencies in the American system from podcasts by Colin Flaherty and Matthew Johson.

    I am reminded of that line by Jack Lemmon near the end of the film… Do you know, the name escapes me. It was where an American father travels to Chile to learn of what happened to his son who disappeared during Pinochet’s coup, where America had covertly assisted the latter. Oh yes, Missing. He says (I paraphrase), “I never thought as an American that I would ever see my country doing such a thing.”

    Of course, the film gets it all completely wrong, as always. I think someone in Argentina has offered a huge reward to whoever can provide evidence backing up the 30k (or is 60k?) ‘Desaparecidos’, as this appears to be just another Tall Tale.

    • Yohannon November 21, 2020 at 8:30 pm #

      Pinochet is widely considered to be a Hero. These kids were in with a very bad crowd doing very bad things and they came to a very bad end. Injustice? When the riot act is declared, it is necessary to flee because Justice can not be carefully calibrated anymore.

  75. BackRowHeckler November 21, 2020 at 7:07 pm #

    Friday Nov. 20:

    Transgender Remembrance Day

    In Portland, Peaceful Protesters celebrated this venerated holiday by smashing up a Whole Foods, vandalizing banks, stopping traffic, and inexplicably, tagging the Mexican Counselate building with grafitti.

    How did celebrate TRD, CFNers?

    Let us know in the comments below.

    No scurrilous comments please, this is serious.


    • tucsonspur November 21, 2020 at 7:31 pm #

      Somehow reminded me of this:


      • BackRowHeckler November 22, 2020 at 4:14 am #

        Lou Reed, a protege of NYC poet Delmore Schwartz.

        Read ‘In Dreams Begin Responsibilities’ to see where Reed’s inspiration came from.


        • beantownbill. November 22, 2020 at 2:49 pm #

          Never heard of him. His name sounds half Black and half Jewish.

          • FreddieMars November 23, 2020 at 3:39 am #

            Is the black part the “Schwartz”? 😉

    • Iananna November 21, 2020 at 7:46 pm #

      By rereading James Morris’ “CONUNDRUM” (1974) – died as Jan Morris this week aged 94.
      Never once played victim in almost half a century.

      • BackRowHeckler November 22, 2020 at 4:07 am #

        Jan Morris,the great travel writer/historian, at some point he became a she if I recall correctly.

        I read a book about NYC by JAMES Morris once, which I think is the same person.


  76. BackRowHeckler November 21, 2020 at 7:21 pm #

    Apparently a new slogan was being shouted by Peaceful Protesters in Portland.


    Mayor Wheeler condemned the violence: “We all want racial justice, but this isn’t the way to get it.”

    Racial Justice?

    Meanwhile, same night in Portland “4 black men robbed a UPS driver, holding him at gunpoint, binding him with duct tape, and removing the contents of the truck.”

    Ahahahahaha ahahahaha ahahahahaha!


    • Yohannon November 21, 2020 at 8:33 pm #

      That must be it: White trannies are racists, no better than any other kind of White. This is the source of their righteous wrath, the crazies!

      • BackRowHeckler November 22, 2020 at 4:19 am #

        Maybe they’re the same teens who beat an off duty NYPD detective nearly to death on Friday, who was out jogging on the street.

        • elysianfield November 22, 2020 at 11:49 am #

          Yo understand that many police departments REQUIRE the carrying of an off-duty weapon? The vast majority provide it as a choice. I can’t imagine someone from the NYPD being out without a weapon.

          Because…THEY ALL KNOW THE EVIL THAT MEN CAN DO…they see it every day.

          • BackRowHeckler November 22, 2020 at 12:54 pm #

            Apparently there were 9 attackers, E., and they took him by surprise. This same group of ‘Youths’ have attacked others in the neighborhood over the past week or so (according to the NYPost)

            Other than that, imagine the hell to pay if this off duty detective engaged these mthrrf#kkrs with his weapon? No, I surmise he decided it was better to take the beating rather than be fired from his job, prosecuted, loss of pension, accused of racism, name dragged thru the mud and so on.


          • elysianfield November 22, 2020 at 2:22 pm #

            Nooooo. Never better to take the beating…you would then rely on their humanity to allow you to live… And the guy should have ingrained situational awareness… And the display of the gun should have defused the situation.

            Me? In Oakland, with a 6 shot belly gun, I would have gotten at least 7 of them. Probably could today.


            “I’d rather be tried by 12 than be carried by 6” is an old saying.

    • Kim November 21, 2020 at 9:01 pm #

      There was a great story on newnation.org yesterday featuring a senior organizer for BLM who has just been arrested for rape and assault, break and enter, assorted other serious crimes and on top of that owes $63,000 in child support.

      You can guess the race.

      I just now went to check the details and I see that it is no longer there.

      I try to google it and I now get no relevant results, not even in later pages. No matter how deep I go in the search pages, I can’t get a link. All I get are stories about snopes debunking things and “don’t be taken in by conspiracy theories” websites.

      This is the most thorough effort to hide a story that I have ever seen.

      It is getting very scary.

  77. Mike Roberts November 21, 2020 at 7:46 pm #

    So does JHK understand that all of the legal cases brought so far have been thrown out because there is no evidence? And yet he clings to the illusion that there is evidence that will eventually be presented in court. Why has Trump’s campaign not already done that? Hmm, there is an obvious answer to that but maybe it’s not Biden’s mental faculties that are in question here.

    If the campaign wanted to get people wound up in support of Trump, it would have already made any evidence public (either directly or through leaks).

    Trump has already given up, anyway; as his last G20 summit got underway, he headed for the golf course. What does that say? And it doesn’t matter that the focus of the summit is a global pandemic response, which Trump doesn’t want to think about it. This is a summit of the 20 most wealthy nations and he isn’t taking part (apart from some incoherent opening remarks, some of which could be interpreted as a concession but then he adds stuff which undermines that).

    Maybe a Biden presidency would be bad (though JHK didn’t really give any evidence for his claims) but a Trump continuation would not be any better.

    • Soul Forensics November 21, 2020 at 8:58 pm #

      “If the campaign wanted to get people wound up in support of Trump, it would have already made any evidence public.” — Mike Roberts

      It’s been patiently explained to you many times, by those here at CFN and by those doing the digging (e.g. Giuliani at the recent presser): there will be no laying out of specifics. That will be provided to and in the various hierarchies of legislative and judicial outlets. And why would it be any different? To tip their hand to better prepare the fraudsters’ more targeted bullshit responses? So that more brave souls (vote workers, State reps) can be doxxed and threatened?

      Lastly, the campaign doesn’t have to get people “wound up”. They’re plenty pissed off right now, all 74 + million of them.

      • Mike Roberts November 22, 2020 at 4:12 am #

        But the campaign has failed to present evidence in numerous court cases so far. Do you not realise this? Trump even had Republican state lawmakers meet him and they said they heard nothing to make them ignore their voters by sending a different slate of electors to the Electoral College.

        Many commenters here seem to take it for granted that there was electoral fraud despite all the known evidence and a statement by the administration’s own agency declaring the election the most secure election yet. Why do you assume that the Trump campaign has any solid evidence for fraud? JHK never offered any evidence nor have any commenters, as far as I know (I don’t read every comment but have read most for recent posts). When will you accept that Biden won in the same “landslide” manner that Trump claimed to win last time?

        By the way, almost 80 million voters would be plenty pissed off if their votes get ignored. It’s funny, though, that you accept that Trump only got 74 million votes (actually 73,790,979 at the latest count) given that you don’t seem to believe the result is accurate.

        • Soul Forensics November 22, 2020 at 2:25 pm #

          Lots of evidence has been presented, from links here, to much more documented by actual investigative reporters, and available on any number of sites that have to scramble daily to avoid (sometimes without success) to be scrubbed by facebook, twitter, google & yootoob, as well as dealing with D.DOS attacks. That you fail to categorize it as such, or that you fail to even note it, is not the fault of those demanding a fair, audited, certified, chain-of-command recount.

          “By the way, almost 80 million voters would be plenty pissed if their votes get ignored” — Mike Roberts

          This is shifting the goalposts, and is the mark of someone with bad faith. Therefore, I won’t be engaging with you in any rational manner any more. You ignored my original point, which is that people are pissed off already. They don’t need Trump and his team whipping up a frenzy of deplorable revenge, which is the hilarious fear (disingenuous or real) of the MSM types and their blind followers. And really? You’re quibbling over 73,790,979 and 74 mil? Hahahahahaha! As if pinpoint accuracy is possible under these conditions. Your 80 mil for Biden is also funny. Imagine! Hologram Joe, talking to cars in an empty Toyota dealership, more popular than Obama!

          • Mike Roberts November 22, 2020 at 3:27 pm #

            Not shifting the goal posts but a direct response to the idea that 74 million Americans (those who voted for Trump) are pissed off. Trump has also mentioned that number but the extra 6 million that Biden got is never mentioned.

          • FreddieMars November 22, 2020 at 4:52 pm #

            “Lots of evidence has been presented, from links here, to much more documented by actual investigative reporters, and available on any number of sites that have to scramble daily to avoid (sometimes without success) to be scrubbed by facebook, twitter, google & yootoob, as well as dealing with D.DOS attacks. That you fail to categorize it as such, or that you fail to even note it, is not the fault of those demanding a fair, audited, certified, chain-of-command recount.”

            It doesn’t matter what is posted on the net. What matters is what is presented to Judges were The Trump Campaign is trying to get some sort of toehold…but failing to do so. Perhaps the Judges should be directed to all these alt-fact websites instead?

      • FreddieMars November 22, 2020 at 5:03 pm #

        Check out the Fox et al gloating after 2016 win and whining about the ‘sore loser’ Democrats. Ha!


    • cbeard November 22, 2020 at 4:03 pm #

      You are a liar and a fool. The evidence is there. Plenty of it in fact. Not to mention common sense should tell you it was impossible for Bide/Harris to be legally elected. Neither of them had support from their fellow sicko democrats. Biden would have dropped out of the race but for winning the black vote in South Carolina and Harris dropped out early due to no support. And we are supposed to believe that those two clowns (sorry, that’s disrespectful to clowns) beat Trump in an honest contest.

      • FreddieMars November 22, 2020 at 5:15 pm #

        Here’s a GOP State Rep from Michigan who is also, by your reckoning, ‘a liar & a fool’. He won his District by 16 points, so probably not a RINO. What do you say to him when he simply states that Michigan voted for Biden with a 150,000 majority.

        Perhaps you, and the other Trumpsters around the place, need to just accept that MORE people simply DON’T WANT Mr. Trump for another 4 years.

  78. KesaAnna November 21, 2020 at 7:48 pm #

    ” Americans are dumb and dumb in a very bizarre, dishonest, and naive sort of way? A bizarre combination of dishonesty, laziness, and inability to think. So they support torture, BLM, censorship, and they think that Orange Man is literally Hitler, AND THAT WHITE COPS ARE OUT HUNTING DOWN AND MURDERING BLACK PEOPLE AND TRANSGENDERS , ”

    ( Emphasis added )

    Hey , I’m not gonna lie , ( this time ) sometimes I really love repeating myself !

    Yes , well , for 40 years — and even now — I keep having this exchange ;

    ” Your “big difference” is largely a big dose of self – flattery . ”

    ” Pfft , In East Germany the police are running around hunting down and murdering ( black people and transgenders ? — or fill in the blank ) , and we don’t do that ! ”


    So , at least part of me , is tickled by these developments.

    Hey , I also suggested that stigmatizing the Confederate flag was a really bad fucking idea ,

    but , * giggle giggle * whatever ….

    • elysianfield November 22, 2020 at 11:45 am #

      “Hey , I also suggested that stigmatizing the Confederate flag was a really bad fucking idea ”

      Symbolism…I would suggest that large Afro’s and maybe even Dreds are a form of political/social symbolism…just like a “butch” haircut, or, in the ’60’s, long hair(on men), for that matter.

      Show the flag.

  79. KesaAnna November 21, 2020 at 8:09 pm #

    ” Maybe a Biden presidency would be bad (though JHK didn’t really give any evidence for his claims) but a Trump continuation would not be any better. ”

    ” ” Maybe a Biden presidency would be bad ”

    — To me it depends on what the nuts and bolts , meat and potatoes , of this ” bad ” is.

    ” JHK didn’t really give any evidence for his claims ”

    — Again , basically ; WHAT evidence relating to WHAT ” Claims ” ?

    For my part , the love affair with trump began with the fact that for 30 years there was no real discussion of immigration.

    In my view the Republicans actually dodged the issue with platitudes , euphemisms , and mis – direction .

    And the Democrats dodged the issue with platitudes , euphemisms , and mis – direction .

    And WORSE , the AVERAGE PERSON dodged the issue with platitudes , euphemisms , and mis – direction .

    Trump had the balls to actually speak of it .

    And , to me , frankly , never mind the details of what he says either .

    At least he DID SAY SOMETHING .

    For over a hundred years , and in a state that covers four time zones , only two parties have had an absolute lock on a presumably legit system presumably based on voting.

    Trump doesn’t characterize it the same way I just did , and indeed , he might disagree flatly for some reason with what I just said.

    But , whatever he is saying , he is now saying something about this voting business.

    Solely and exclusively for these two reasons ,

    in matters of the heart ,

    to my heart , Donald Trump is the greatest president of the past hundred years.

    Yes , merely on account of these two things.

    • Mike Roberts November 22, 2020 at 4:18 am #

      KesAnna, perhaps you forgot to read JHK’s post, above? One example of a claim of how bad a Biden presidency would be: “financial fiasco that will attend a Joe Biden presidency and the monumental unwind of activity that will present as implacable depression” which was a simple statement of opinion, with no reasoning.

      “And , to me , frankly , never mind the details of what he says either”, really? Never mind the details of what he says? I guess this explains the rationale behind Trump getting so many votes – it doesn’t matter that he lies constantly, at least he’s not Biden.

    • benr November 22, 2020 at 8:16 am #


      Just listen to them what more proof do you need?

      Curtail 1st amendment, gun confiscations, a host of critical race theory shoved down your throat.
      Whats not to love umm I mean hate.
      Oathkeepers are right and going to be more important.

  80. KesaAnna November 21, 2020 at 8:28 pm #

    ” Well, how do you, then, handle a pandemic? As far as I know, no one has ever successfully done so. ”

    I could be wrong ,

    but ,

    Jeez , that should be a bumper sticker that someone pockets a small fortune on selling !!

    I sure as Hell would buy it.

    • tucsonspur November 22, 2020 at 3:45 am #

      What’s meant by successfully here? There are varying degrees of success. Better containment of this virus could have been achieved, slowing down the number of infections and fatalities and easing the burden on hospitals and front line workers.

      That would be considered a success in anybody’s book. Lack of total success doesn’t mean you can’t have some success in handling a pandemic.

      Get a clue, if you think success is complete eradication.

      • Mike Roberts November 22, 2020 at 4:22 am #

        Right. Here in New Zealand, the government made some mistakes and will no doubt continue to make some mistakes but, so far, they seem to have made a success of it. For most of the last 10 months, society has operated fairly normally, with little internal restriction (there are restrictions at the border for incoming people). Most countries would give anything to be in the same position.

  81. Kim November 21, 2020 at 9:14 pm #

    Interviewed by Howie Carr, Sidney Powell says (10:55) that

    “We even got information that there’s a person over at the DoD who has been on the internet with Bernie Sanders and AOC instructing people in how to commit sabotage in their respective offiices within the government and there were a couple of hundred people on the call.”

    This interview is otherwise the now-familiar setup where the interviewer is anxious and Sidney is all at once imperious, outraged, determined, and assured.

    She promises more revelations next week, a shortened week. So let’s see.


    • Kim November 21, 2020 at 9:37 pm #

      Oh, yes, battleship Sidney also says she has an affidavit with regard to the famous Eric Coomer call and she says “I think we have a copy of the call.”

      Here is a link with background to the Coomer affair:


      The use of “I think” by Sidney is of course a tactic.

      In the 1990s New South Wales (an Australian State) Royal Commission on Police Corruption – which was rivetting viewing each night on the tele – the commission had months of video and audio of police acting corruptly. Police cars were – unknown to the corrupt cops, who went all the way up to the Commissioner – secretly installed with lipstick cameras, something not common at the time.

      So when a person was brought into the witness box – where under Commission rules, one must answer – they were usually asked if they had ever met such and such a criminal identity or seen such and such an illegal activity.

      At that point, the witness knew that if he denied such a thing, even a small thing, the next step would be the presentation of video or audio proving that he had just perjured himself.

      This doubt was very effective in making people roll over on other conspirators. Because perjury is of course a serious offense.

      So Sidney is sowing doubt here. It would be nice if it were true, but in some ways it doesn’t matter.


    • Sagesse November 21, 2020 at 11:33 pm #

      Well they are 32 and 0 in court so hopefully ‘The Elite Strike Force Team’ can do more than invoke the ghost of Chavez and piggyback off nonsensical QAnon conspiracy theories for us this week.

      Otherwise, might as well put this turkey in the oven. It be cooked.

      • Kim November 22, 2020 at 12:18 am #

        Or we could wait until the evidence is presented.

        • FreddieMars November 22, 2020 at 5:55 am #

          Heres an update from Maricopa County Nevada


          • Sagesse November 22, 2020 at 8:29 am #

            Exactly FreddieMars. The lawsuits the Trump campaign has brought before the courts have been a joke. Nothing of any substance, and certainly nothing that indicates widespread systematic fraud. Hell, Giuliani and Trump’s lawyer in Arizona have explicitly told the courts that, “this is not a fraud case”. The only fraud is the one that the Elite Strike Force Team is perpetrating on the country. They can’t win in court so they will try to dupe the rubes in the court of public opinion instead.

          • FreddieMars November 22, 2020 at 4:27 pm #

            (Correction – Arizona, not Nevada)

        • FreddieMars November 22, 2020 at 4:31 pm #

          So far, the Trump Campaign legal team(s) haven’t even been able to get to an evidentiary hearing, because their arguments are without substance. Try reading ALL of Judge Brann’s Judgment. – it describes a Klown-Kar quality submission process.


          Still, with the high-powered Sidney Powell & Lin Wood finally promising to blow the whole thing wide open with their evidence, this should be an interesting week.

  82. Kim November 21, 2020 at 10:11 pm #


    Rulers need myths. And some myths are healthier for all than others.

  83. Kim November 21, 2020 at 10:18 pm #


    Can people please stop pretending it is anything but a beat-up?

    • KesaAnna November 21, 2020 at 11:15 pm #

      * Big frown *

      No doubt I’m gonna sound like a really cold – hearted bitch ….

      But , you know , FOR 30 FUCKING YEARS I have had to put up with the circumstance that I light up a cigarette — not in an elevator , but out in the middle of a ten acre parking lot — and have to endure the dirty look , and the fiction behind it , that I’m some sort of murderer.

      Speaking of the parking lot ; never mind that any one of the automobiles in this parking lot puffs out more poison in a week than I will puff out if I had ten life times.

      Never mind that there is a chemical plant right down the street puffing out god – knows – what.

      Never mind — well , shit ! Forget it ! I could trot out the examples all fucking day long , and I strongly suspect that I’m not telling you anything you don’t already know.

      The really big lie , the really big beat – up , is that this Covid bullshit is nothing new . You crossed that line a long time ago.

      • KesaAnna November 21, 2020 at 11:42 pm #

        Well , on second thought , I’ll add another tidbit.

        A mere three generations ago my people paid their grocery bills and bought shoes by working tobacco allotments.

        It’s not like growing zucchini will buy even bubble gum , except in the imaginations of white collar suburban types who dwell full – time in Disney Land.

        So when people now bitch about welfare , nah , that doesn’t particularly bother my conscience either. We DID work once upon a time , until you legislated and moralized that into impracticality.

        And , then , too , I’m pretty sure my people were not some sort of aberration or exception.

        I suspect that for a great many of these people now looking down their noses in contempt at cigarettes : Trace back to the source , where did the means ultimately originate for their college degrees and McMansions ?

        It was likewise King Tobacco , and without it the bastards would be barefoot in a shack somewhere.

        • Yohannon November 21, 2020 at 11:49 pm #

          It sounds like you love your King and will remain loyal. Try to leave and see how he likes it. Other subjects have said it’s harder to live Him than it is to leave Queen Heroin.

  84. Yohannon November 21, 2020 at 11:47 pm #

    After watching the Press Conference, I realize that Kim and SSL are right: Tucker seems to be going over to the dark side. As Powell and Rudy said, a few of the affadavits have been made public and by definition, they are evidence. Any competent journalist can look them up. So for Tucker to chime in that no evidence has been provided along with the rest of the media mob is disheartening in the extreme. He is squandering the credibility he has built up with tens of millions of conservatives.

    If he was forced to do this by Fox News, then he should have resigned on the spot. He should have been out of there weeks or months ago in any case. The other day he said not to worry, he wasn’t being forced out but on the contrary they want more from him. Has he taken the bribe? It seems so.

    Or was he just being a hard driven reporter bothering Powell in order to get the scoop on everyone? Not as bad, but also bad, putting his career before the needs of the nation. They explained why they can’t give more evidence: it would put people’s lives in danger for one thing. And for another, other forms of evidence are still being gathered and/or need to remain confidential so as not to tip off the other side. In any case, it backfired and she wants nothing to do with him but has sat down with other people since then. Or did she sense malicious intent and feared he would distort the investigation with his huge megaphone to the very audience most sympathetic to the case?

    • Soul Forensics November 22, 2020 at 12:05 am #

      All of these are (or could be) true, but I believe the one that (pardon the pun) trumps them all is that Murdoch was fine giving the “controlled opposition” some leeway to make it seem to the public like there was ‘balanced’ reporting, but this shit’s now getting serious for the Dems, and Murdoch had to press his thumb harder on the scale.

      • Yohannon November 22, 2020 at 1:32 am #

        Tucker must leave then. As Galadriel said upon refusing the Ring: I pass the test. I will remain Galadriel, diminish, and leave Middle Earth to go unto the West.

        He is choosing to be part of the Ring of Power, which C.S Lewis called the ultimate temptation of an individual or of humanity. And as Elrond said, Man is so weak….

        • Soul Forensics November 22, 2020 at 1:39 am #

          And Frodo couldn’t resist slipping the Ring on two or three times. It drained him physically and spiritually.

          I read The Lord of the Rings three times before I turned 14, 50 years ago. I’ll have to read it again.

          • benr November 22, 2020 at 8:03 am #

            Yea spent a lot of time reading that series of books.
            All of them even The Silmarillion.

        • elysianfield November 22, 2020 at 11:36 am #

          “And as Elrond said, Man is so weak….”

          Yes, but his only experiences were with Canadian men….

    • SoftStarLight November 22, 2020 at 4:12 am #

      Ok so then this is confirmation that some form of worse case scenario is playing out right now with Tucker. See I thought that maybe my initial post about him on the thread was emotional and overreactive. Given his audience and clout I feel like what he did was devastating and after the litany of betrayals we have had to endure I really felt with this apparent one like it was just too much to deal with altogether. And like you I have many questions as to why this has happened. I really don’t even want to believe this is happening. I don’t want to believe that this apparent betrayal just boils down to money and social position. Maybe he has been threatened? We know they do that to people. But either way it is extremely disheartening. I think Sidney Powell is very credible. She is doing the work that an entire agency should be doing right now and many peoples’ expectations of what should be happening are not tethered to reality and actual legal processes and law.

      • Yohannon November 22, 2020 at 12:12 pm #

        That’s a good point. The Antifa came to his house one evening when he wasn’t there but his wife and children were and started banging on the door. They moved, but he knows he can’t hide from this enemy. I hope it’s that and not some meaner motive. But it is still incumbent upon him to resign and not betray us and himself by joining them.

  85. Yohannon November 22, 2020 at 1:28 am #


    What a terrible future. Brave New World, Logan’s Run, and a bit of 1984 hidden away too for the really bad cyborgs. People will be tearing into their own flesh to get this shit out if they can. Of course they you won’t be able to go into any public building or store. Ditto with no vaccine. You won’t be enabled. Plus they could freeze all your assets. Why do you think they want to get rid of cash? They always want to be part of every little thing you do. Typical psychopathic stalkers.

    • Yohannon November 22, 2020 at 1:34 am #

      of course then (not they)

      • SoftStarLight November 22, 2020 at 4:23 am #

        It sounds like the beast system. It’s interesting that you mention the psychopathic stalkers. Lin Wood just recently stated that in addition to all of the major evidence of pervasive electoral fraud soon to be rolled out, that there is all sorts of other information on the elites who plotted this that will come out. He specifically mentioned direct connections to pedophilia and satan worship.

        • JohnAZ November 22, 2020 at 10:12 am #

          Think about the power that is being exerted to prevent the disclosure of all the Federal corruption, the Deep State.

          The reaction of the local judiciaries and the RINO GOP to Trump trying to expose the swamp shows how much the DS is in control.

          Yohannon Not the future, it is here now!

    • elysianfield November 22, 2020 at 11:34 am #

      “They always want to be part of every little thing you do.”

      Well, if they could view my sexual fantasies, they might opt out….

  86. John1945 November 22, 2020 at 2:14 am #

    Nov 22,1963,In Memoriam:

    Pause Stranger, when you pass me by,
    As you are now, so once was I.
    As I am now, so you will be,
    So prepare for Death and follow me.
    To follow you I’m not content,
    Until I know which way you went.

    Democratic Party.From Party of the Working Class to Party of Chaos and Destruction.

    • KesaAnna November 22, 2020 at 3:02 am #

      If the JFK is the JFK I’m thinking of , hopefully for him there is smoking and mistresses in Heaven.

      • benr November 22, 2020 at 7:59 am #

        It is today I turn 52 and after flying across America I feel 82.
        Man what a cattle car I flew on.

        • elysianfield November 22, 2020 at 11:32 am #

          52? Congratulations. I can speak from experience that 52 was “the good old days”. The “golden years” ain’t so…even if you have the gold.

          In the ’90’s, working as a consultant, I spent many hours traversing the country in commercial aircraft…I thought it was bad then…. Last time on an Aircraft was in the late 90’s, when I flew to LA to be on Judge Judy.

          • BackRowHeckler November 22, 2020 at 12:39 pm #

            Ok E. Just as BT Bill has to tell his story about when he got picked up by the cops in Buffalo back in the day, we need to hear your Judge Judy story.

            I had a buddy who appeared on Judge Judy in the 90s; they sent a limo up from NYC to fetch him. This guy had won the lottery — the big one — and never too stable to begin with, those sudden riches pushed him over the cliff. Lawsuits were flying every which way, mostly from his ex wife. Everybody wanted a piece of the jackpot.


          • BackRowHeckler November 22, 2020 at 12:41 pm #

            altho his Judge Judy appearance was over some minor real estate matter. He lost the case.

          • elysianfield November 22, 2020 at 2:12 pm #

            A buddy of mine was being sued by his daughter to recover/control child support…at 16 years of age. She had moved into the home of an older female neighbor, and the older woman probably had a large say in the pending suit.

            You do know that the JJ program pays all of the costs of appearance, coach flight, decent motel, food and travel vouchers, PLUS an honorarium to attend…my buddy did not want to go until they offered him $2,000 for his trouble…I got $100 as his travel companion (they require two people to attend). The program also pays ALL judgments, with a $5000 limit. The show is shot in LA…not New York.

            Sooo…we went. Neither of us had ever watched the show. When the cab picked us up on our day of appearance, he asked us which show we were attending (The large warehouse affair had several sound stages)…when we told him JJ, he said “…Oh, she doesn’t like men….” We took this as a bad omen.

            We were let into this large warehouse (maybe 20 blocks from Hollywood and Vine), thru a single man door guarded by a guy with no neck. We were ushered into a green room that had a supply of day old doughnuts. There were other unfortunates in the room…all male, all plaintiffs, as I recall. Thence to the make-up room, where we were powdered. I asked the make-up girl attending to me to make me appear vaguely “Nixon-esque”…the comment went over the Valley Girl’s head without comment. “Pearls before Swine”, I thought.

            Well, JJ savaged my buddy, awarded $5,000 to the daughter. The woman who she was staying with admitted on camera that she had prostituted herself for milk for her baby. I later commented to the security guards located in the small foyer where they film the final comments of the winners/losers that “I would also have brought her doughnuts with the milk…that’s the kind of guy I am…” Much hilarity. All the sets are open…the many cameras positioned not to show the open walls/warehouse setting.

            My buddy was pissed…his comments were not aired. The security guards were there for a reason.

          • BackRowHeckler November 22, 2020 at 3:06 pm #

            Thanks E. That was as good as I thought it would be.

            I stand corrected on my friends appearance on Judge Judy. My wife informs me he appeared on the program ‘People’s Court’, and indeed, stood before a Judge Sheinlein (sp), who I believe was Judge Judy’s husband at the time.


        • cbeard November 22, 2020 at 6:13 pm #

          I flew from the east coast to Hawaii and back, once. It was a miserable experience. Hawaii was great, but getting to and fro was a nightmare.

      • elysianfield November 22, 2020 at 11:27 am #

        ” hopefully for him there is smoking and mistresses in Heaven.”

        And dogs. If there are no dogs, I do not want to go. I will explore my options.

      • Yohannon November 22, 2020 at 2:38 pm #

        Jack said that if he didn’t have a new woman every few days he started feeling tense and getting headaches. Too bad he hadn’t converted to Islam. He could have been with the virgins even now, but 72 would not have been enough for old Jack!

    • JohnAZ November 22, 2020 at 10:07 am #

      And dictatorship.

  87. KesaAnna November 22, 2020 at 3:10 am #

    ” It sounds like you love your King and will remain loyal. Try to leave and see how he likes it. ”

    Many a time I have said the same thing to Americans .

    Just you try to leave America.

    And , of course , they say that what I’m implying isn’t true.

    I hear that the newest wrinkle is that to even get a passport you will have to take a Covid test and pass it.

    A temporary measure of course , and it’s just this one little thing .

    I wish we could guarantee ourselves another 40 years , because in that case I would be quite confidently willing to bet you my very hide that it will not be temporary , and soon enough you will need a lawyer just to keep track of all the little requirements that have been tacked on.

  88. Kim November 22, 2020 at 6:48 am #

    As if we all aren’t yet cynical enough, the question is asked, who is behind voting machine “certification” in the USA?

    This question is answered by Jeff Carlson of the Epoch Times in 22 tweets on his Twitter:


    I wil not copy all of the tweets here. They are all interesting, but you will get the gist (there has been a massive, well-planned fraud committed on the republic) from the following.

    1) The Small World of Voting Machine Certification

    An understaffed tiny federal agency and 2 private testing labs responsible for certification of nation’s voting systems

    2) A deeper look into the certification process used for the machines reveals that the main certification agency in the US, the EAC, maintains an unexpectedly small staff, and one of its chief employees is a former executive of Dominion Voting Systems.

    3) Furthermore it appears the bulk—if not all—of the testing of the election equipment is conducted by only two companies, Pro V&V and SLI Compliance.

    Pro V&V was used by Georgia’s SoS Raffensperger to do an “audit” of a random sample of machines.

    4) In May 2019, as the agency was preparing for the 2020 election, it announced the departure of Ryan Macias, who had served as EAC’s acting director of testing and certification.

    This left only one full-time staff member dedicated to overseeing the certification process.

    [Ed – there is no Tweet #5.]

    6) On May 21, 2019 the EAC announced it was adding two individuals to its voting certification program – including Jessica Bowers, recently the Director of Certification for Dominion Voting Systems and a 10-year veteran with the firm.

    7) “It was not immediately clear how the EAC might mitigate any potential conflicts of interest that could arise with hiring Bowers, the former director of certification at Dominion Voting Systems, onto the EAC program.”

    8) On the EAC website, there are seven Voting System Test Laboratories (VSTL) listed.

    However, only two of these testing labs, Pro V&V and SLI Compliance are listed on the page as accredited, as the others are listed as having their accreditation expired.

    9) From early 2017 on, these two companies are the only testing labs to have provided voting system certification according to a listing of certifications by the EAC.

    10) Despite being responsible for the testing and data used in the certification of entire voting systems, Pro V&V has only a single office listed, located in a business suite, that is supported by a surprisingly crude and sparse website.

    11) Pro V&V, like Dominion Voting and Smartmatic, is a member of CISA’s Sector Coordinating Council, the same council that recently issued the joint statement on the 2020 presidential election.

    The other primary testing lab, SLI Compliance, is also a member of the same council.

    12) In response to recent allegations of potential problems with the integrity of Dominion’s voting machines used in the Nov. 3 election, Pro V&V has been repeatedly cited as an authority in denying these allegations, including the recount in Georgia.

    13) Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger issued a statement announcing the completion of the state’s voting machine audit which claimed “Pro V&V found no evidence of the machines being tampered.”

    The statement was widely cited by media organizations.

    14) It appears Pro V&V only verified that “the only software or firmware on the components was certified for use” by the SoS Office.

    The headline of the release appears to have been more important than the actual functions performed by Pro V&V.

  89. Kim November 22, 2020 at 7:06 am #

    As Jim observes, the scam has layers upon layers.

    It is a mirror-house of cardboard creeps and noises meant to scare and herd us.

    The just-completed Georgia “audit” was conducted by an organization called VotingWorks. This organization is a spinoff of CDT – the acronym of a group with a typical Soros boilerplate name, the Center for Technology and Democracy.

    Who are these groups? What are their goals? How are they funded? Why do the same names keep popping up at the heads of all of these organizations?

    Well, they are Soros, NWO, oligarch front groups, of course.

    Willi Munzenberg would be pleased. The left is a hydra with so many heads, and a con man with so many disguises.



    • benr November 22, 2020 at 7:57 am #

      Sadly there is only one way to deal with people like this and it is not court systems they have enough money to defend themselves till the world ends.

  90. Kim November 22, 2020 at 7:36 am #

    The Communications Manager for Dominion Voting Systems is Penelope Chester Starr.

    “Before assuming that role, she worked for the Clinton Growth Initiative and was vice president for Teneo, the firm created to help manage Bill and Hillary Clinton’s foreign businesses and which booked their personal speaking engagements. Chester-Starr also helped organize a 2017 Women’s March protesting President Trump.”

    Of course we can’t rush to judgment on these matters and wildly suggest that Dominion might be a non-neutral organization.

    The important thing is, first we have to see if there is any evidence.

    • JohnAZ November 22, 2020 at 10:05 am #

      Are affidavits from witnesses not evidence. Eyewitnesses? I must not understand what evidence is.

      Are there back doors to flip votes or not? We’re 134000 Biden votes at 3 in the morning in Wisconsin with no Trump votes. an indication of phony balloting? What was the verification process that all the ballots had legitimate signatures on them, and ballot falsification did not occur on a large scale, like maybe 134000 at a time.

      If the judiciary shuts this down, we are finished as a republic.

    • FreddieMars November 23, 2020 at 3:36 am #


  91. Jerry1927 November 22, 2020 at 7:44 am #

    Judge Matthew Brann, US District Court, Pennsylvania:

    “In this action, the Trump Campaign and the Individual Plaintiffs (collectively, the “Plaintiffs”) seek to discard millions of votes legally cast by Pennsylvanians from all corners – from Greene County to Pike County, and everywhere in between. In other words, Plaintiffs ask this Court to disenfranchise almost seven million voters. This Court has been unable to find any case in which a plaintiff has sought such a drastic remedy in the contest of an election, in terms of the sheer volume of votes asked to be invalidated. One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption, such that this Court would have no option but to regrettably grant the proposed injunctive relief despite the impact it would have on such a large group of citizens. That has not happened. Instead, this Court has been presented with strained legal arguments without merit and speculative accusations, unpled in the operative complaint and unsupported by evidence. In the United States of America, this cannot justify the disenfranchisement of a single voter, let alone all the voters of its sixth most populated state. Our people, laws, and institutions demand more. At bottom, Plaintiffs have failed to meet their burden to state a claim upon which relief may be granted. Therefore, I grant Defendants’ motions and dismiss Plaintiffs’ action with prejudice. “

    • benr November 22, 2020 at 7:55 am #

      And the Dominion voting company failed to show up.


      Put some details together and think for yourself.

      • Jerry1927 November 22, 2020 at 8:54 am #

        Perhaps the question you should be asking yourself is, if there is significant evidence that Dominion voting machines are compromised, why did Giuliani and Powell’s team do such a poor job of presenting this evidence that they elicited this response from the court?

    • Pucker November 22, 2020 at 8:11 am #

      This is a bit dishonest.

      The Judge is asking the Plaintiffs to present evidence at the initial Complaint stage. The way the process is supposed to work is that the Judge only looks to see if the Plaintiffs may have a case under law assuming that the facts as alleged in the Plaintiffs’ Complaint are true. Only later is there Discovery and presentation of Evidence. The Judge was being deliberately dishonest.

      • Sagesse November 22, 2020 at 8:33 am #

        No, this Republican judge saw a weak cobbled together lawsuit with the flimsiest of facts and did exactly as his oath of office instructed him to do. I am glad he also chastised those who would abuse this legal system for nefarious purposes.

      • Jerry1927 November 22, 2020 at 8:37 am #

        “Dismissed with prejudice” means that the case cannot be brought back to court, so I don’t think there is still a discovery and presentation of evidence phase pending. The case is over and done with, at least as far as that court is concerned.

        • Pucker November 22, 2020 at 9:20 am #

          It looks like the Judge deliberately made an error of law in order to punt the case up the judicial hierarchy. The judge actually did Giuliani et al. a favor by punting it so quickly.

          • elysianfield November 22, 2020 at 1:51 pm #

            Excellent observation. The dismissal “With Prejudice” was the icing on the cake.

            It would then have to be reviewed directly by the SC.

          • FreddieMars November 23, 2020 at 3:33 am #

            Puck & EF “DELIBERATELY made an error of law”???

            Wishful thinking. Or is it “magical thinking”?

  92. Pucker November 22, 2020 at 9:21 am #

    Isn’t today the anniversary of the JFK assassination?

    • JohnAZ November 22, 2020 at 9:34 am #

      Yep, Walter Cronkite announced it on CBS. 57 years ago today.

      The beginning of the end of US representative, public controlled government. We have probably hit the end of the end.

      Trump survived, the Secret Service did a good job.

  93. JohnAZ November 22, 2020 at 9:51 am #

    I do not get this universal rejection of the circumstantial evidence being presented. These are affidavits from people witnessing people breaking voting laws and having the guts to come forward and expose them.

    Think about this. If these allegations are true, we have a judiciary that is blessing the corruption of the electoral process. Being able to just generate ballots and know they will not be surveilled invalidates any election. The idea of the possibility of a back door that can be manipulated to flip votes should disqualify that process, in 29 states. All the people in charge of the Dominion machines were Democrat.

    I would think an uncorrupted government would want the feasibility of mail in ballots corruption or computer manipulation to be tested. Oh No, not in this country today. The fix is in, we have witnessed the administration of the last alternative president and the rise of the uniparty.

    It is a measure of how totally the Dems are in control of the Deep State and the judiciary, how blatant the risk taking they took to get the results they wanted.

    • Pucker November 22, 2020 at 9:54 am #

      My favorite was when a bloke with a PhD degree told me that “a sworn Affidavit is not evidence.”

      • Yohannon November 22, 2020 at 12:20 pm #

        That’s why people get advanced degrees now – so they have the authority to lie with conviction.

    • FreddieMars November 22, 2020 at 7:20 pm #


      Read the whole Judgment from the PA court:


      Watch this conversation between a Maricopa County Judge and the Plaintiff’s attorney:


      You can see from both of these examples that there really is little or no real legal substance to the suits being brought. In both cases, the judges used legal reasoning to dismiss. It is not some fevered conspiratorial plot to defraud Mr. Trump of his claimed election victory – despite what Kim & Night Owl will claim.

  94. Charcoal Milkshake November 22, 2020 at 9:52 am #

    “The actual evidence would be revealed in court and that the day’s presentation was a mere overview. Got that? In court..”

    Duly noted. So here’s what happened in court: “In blistering ruling, judge throws out Trump suit in Pa.”

    “U.S. District Court Judge Matthew Brann wrote in his order that Trump had asked the court to disenfranchise almost 7 million voters.

    “One might expect that when seeking such a startling outcome, a plaintiff would come formidably armed with compelling legal arguments and factual proof of rampant corruption,” Brann wrote, so much that the court would have no option but to stop the certification even though it would impact so many people. “That has not happened.”

    Wow, blistering. Is Jenna Ellis still in command of herself, or does she now look like a cartoon character after the TNT goes off?

    • Pucker November 22, 2020 at 10:20 am #

      They never presented evidence since evidence is never presented at the Complaint stage of litigation. The Judge was being cheeking by saying that there was insufficient evidence presented.

      It’s a bit like saying before the foot race starts that the runner failed to prove that he was faster than the other athletes and then declare that he lost.

      • Pucker November 22, 2020 at 10:34 am #

        Evidence comes into play later during the “Discovery” phase of litigation. At the Complaint stage, the Plaintiff only has to have a reasonable belief that the facts as alleged in the Complaint are true. Here, Giuliani et al. seem to have a plethora of sworn affidavits and statistical analyses to support their case.


        • Pucker November 22, 2020 at 11:27 am #

          They’re basically gaslighting the people…again….

    • Night Owl November 22, 2020 at 12:46 pm #

      That had nothing to do with what Sidney Powell and Jenna Ellis laid out in the press conference.

      If only you were a smarter agent, you might be able to sway opinion.


      • FreddieMars November 23, 2020 at 3:05 am #

        “Sway opinion”. Never yours, clearly.

        You’ve entered a Twilight Zone of imaginary demons & boogie-men under your bed.

        Sidney Powell’s latest Botox session went wrong, and the toxin ended up in her brain.

        Guilani’s just the same as the last 5 years, a sot with Sundowner’s yet still able to convince himself a hot young Russian chick fancies him.

        It’s just getting ridiculous.

        When Chris Christie AND Tucker Carlson don’t wanna know anymore, either Put Up or Shut Up.

        Let’s wait till Lou Dobbs and Hanning pull the plug.

        You & Kim et al will still have Newsmax and OAN to feed your fantasy, but come January 20th,2021, well, then what?

        • FreddieMars November 23, 2020 at 3:07 am #

          I will amend that -you haven’t just entered the Twilight Zone…you’ve inhabited it since the first time I read a post from you, at least two years ago. It’s a chronic condition, possibly incurable.

        • Night Owl November 23, 2020 at 8:43 am #

          Your fear is palpable.

          • FreddieMars November 23, 2020 at 4:32 pm #

            Fear? Fear of what? Your own burgeoning nervousness about the imminent crashing of the Powell/Guiliani Klown Kar is most entertaining.

    • Sagesse November 22, 2020 at 1:51 pm #

      Jenna loathed Trump in 2015. Absolute unbridled hate for the man. Now she licks his boots. Hard to take her seriously. Giuliani? I think the scene in Borat speaks for itself.

      As for Powell, well she used to be a respected attorney. She represented Enron executives during the Enron scandal and she represented General Flynn in 2019. In defending General Flynn, however, she made unsubstantiated claims of a deep state plot against him. This is where things start going off the rails for Powell. Since then things have only gotten worse for Sidney Powell’s credibility. She began to lose the respect of many of her former colleagues when she promoted persons and slogans associated with the conspiracy theorist group QAnon.

      Now, she is going further down the road of crazy. Without a shred of proof, Powell in now claiming … forgive me because this is a lengthy list and it can be found many places – She is claiming that a secret cabal of international Communists, Cubans, Chinese, Venezuelans (including long dead Hugo Chavez), along with The Clinton foundation, George Soros, thousands of Democratic officials and thousands of Republican officials including Georgia governor Brian Kemp, have taken bribes to help rig the 2020 election in favor of Joe Biden.

      So yeah. Take that info whichever way you like

      If proved true, I suppose this would perhaps be the biggest revelation of all time. Second coming of Christ kinda stuff.

      If not,… well I think there is a white, tight fitting jacket with a crest that says ‘Elite Strike Force Team Member’ waiting for her in a quiet country hospital outside of Durham, North Carolina.

    • Soul Forensics November 22, 2020 at 2:36 pm #

      “Charcoal Milkshake” equals “Coal Burner.”

  95. bibliomaniac November 22, 2020 at 12:43 pm #

    “We have a pretty sturdy alt-news network and many diligent entrepreneurial reporters who are able to get the news out.”

    I beg to differ. A recent article in “Scientific American” Dec. 1, 2020, explains how the media exploits our cognitive vulnerabilities, manipulates our opinions, and confirms our biases through algorithms, bots, etc.. Few of us are prepared to think our way through the distorted information overload, and the temptation is to believe in conspiracy theories which provide simplistic explanations for an exponentially complex and ambiguous environment.

    My personal bias is that US citizens are caught in a dilemma between two possibly equal and vicious capitalistic political parties, neither of which is prepared to face our final enemy–global warming and human extinction.

    • Yohannon November 22, 2020 at 1:23 pm #

      Global warming is a Globalist fraud. But thank you for caring about human extinction. The real crazies want this. The Globalists themselves want a vast reduction in the human population. Are they wrong in this? The world is over-populated, but we (the Whites!) are not the problem, at least not anymore.

      • Night Owl November 22, 2020 at 1:31 pm #