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I doubt there is another era in the history of Western Civ when the forces in-motion acting on society were so mystifying to those acted upon. And isn’t it especially galling that this is so in an age after rational scientific practice had decoded so many of nature’s secrets? Did that project somehow fail in the end? Has the Enlightenment been defeated? How have we become trapped like frogs being boiled haplessly in our own pond-water?
I have reduced these forces to four obvious streams of the sheerest seemingly evil fuckery, which is to say nefariously managed events meant to harm us. They are surely all related in some way. Let’s try to de-mystify them to understand what we’re up against.
First: Covid-19. How is it that we don’t know for sure how this organism came into the world, or understand what ensued after it did? Answer: the people who caused it to happen in the Wuhan lab have been busy covering their asses for three years, and successfully so. Yet we know exactly what Anthony Fauci, Francis Collins, Peter Daszak, Ralph Baric and others did. The paper trail in correspondence and patents alone is clear. We just can’t seem to do anything about it.
We don’t know why they did it yet, too, but there are plausible guesses. Maybe Dr. Fauci wanted to cap his long, checkered career with a final heroic triumph: the introduction of world-saving mRNA vaccines — incidentally, a great financial boon to himself and the pharma industry he secretly served. Like everything else Fauci worked on for forty years, this experiment ended in disaster: a Frankenstein disease that persists in the population and vaccines that maim and kill people. How did Fauci and company get away with it? Here’s how:
Two: Government’s war on its own citizens. I’d date this for the sake of simplicity to the DOJ’s and FBI’s campaign to defenestrate Donald Trump starting in 2016 for the crime of winning an election. What began as the Russia collusion prank morphed into RussiaGate, another ass-covering extravaganza in which public officialdom gave itself blanket permission to lie about everything it was doing. The likes of James Comey, Andrew McCabe and Barack Obama’s girl squad in the White House — to name just a few of many participants — also managed to hook in the mainstream news media under the supposition that they were the good guys fighting a disgusting, pussy-grabbing supervillain, which disposed the news media to go along with all the FBI and DOJ lies, and also stranded the media in an endless loop of ass-covering they are still locked into.
Bottom line: all involved came to recognize that there was no accountability for their wicked deeds and lying about them, and that became an all-purpose license for everyone in public life to lie about everything and anything ever after — including Dr. Fauci and his colleagues, who watched RussiaGate roll out for four years before the debut of Covid-19. This license to act wrongfully and lie about it extends, by the way, to the epic election mischief carried out programmatically by the Democratic Party’s Lawfare arm in 2020 and 2022, and the installation of a fake president.
Three: Wokery, the Marxist campaign to disorder society in order to overthrow existing institutions and replace them with a utopian dictatorship of the intersectionally oppressed — also known as The Revenge of the Losers. Its primary tactic is to normalize mental illness. Wokery is often described as a new kind of religion, but that’s mainly because all of its proffers and principles are irrational, as is characteristic of all religions. Also, as in many religions, Wokery in practice is preoccupied with coercion and punishment — which is natural for a movement based on vengeance — and often to a sadistic degree. It laughs at the idea of redemption. Its adversaries are never forgiven, only dealt additional punishments for asking.
The mystery here is how Wokery was incorporated into the operating system of the Democratic Party. The answer is the party needed something to replace its erstwhile corpus of organized industrial workers, gone with the winds of Globalism, and so it valorized the various categories of the mentally ill, the permanently downtrodden, and sundry persons who had become economic hostages to its corrupt system of payments and grants. High above that ragtag-and-bobtail of crazies reigned an aristocracy of the so-called cognitive elite, people of unquestioned virtue, college professors, the creative class, the credentialed echelon — super-busy signaling their good intentions to their vassals to keep them in line.
Wokery, you may have noticed, is also a “religion” dominated by women, and a particular strain of women: those left grossly disappointed by the promises of feminism in its several iterations, that is, the ideal of having brilliant careers minus family and children — producing an implacable, inchoate, and transmissible rage at the world and a fierce wish-to-punish others not so disposed to Woke dogma. So, it’s no surprise that so much of that dogma emanated from the humanities departments of the universities where such careerist feminist intellectuals flocked and marinated in their disappointments. Thus, too, their avatar: the ever cold-blooded and fiendish Hillary Clinton, forever seeking requital for her life’s losses. Hillary leads us to the world stage, and to…
Four, the most mysterious of the four fuckeries: Globalism as represented by the World Economic Forum (WEF) led by the quasi-comical Klaus Schwab. Supposedly — and I can’t endorse this proposition — it is a front for some cabal of exalted international bankers and oligarchs, the proverbial Rothschilds and Rockefellers, Soros and Bill Gates and their various subalterns. There is certainly a lot of money involved and, as the old saying goes, Money talks and bullshit walks. There is also a ton of chatter about this selfsame cabal centering around a Satanic child molestation cult.
I dunno about this, either. Seems plumb cuckoo to me. And yet, how do you explain Jeffrey Epstein’s activities, and how he got it away with all of it, until he was offed right under Attorney General Bill Barr’s nose? How to explain the deification of transsexuals by the folks in-charge of culture and politics? You are dared to condemn such outrageous insults to human hard-wired morality as the Drag Queen Story Hour.
It’s hypothesized that the Satanic sex module is just of a piece with the WEF’s Transhumanism project: to engineer a super-race that will manage and enjoy the perqs of life-on-earth as a previously unseen hermaphroditic genus, and all the performative kink sexuality on display is just a preview of that, to soften us up. More to the point though, is the idea that this WEF elite will rule a planet of lower-order slaves (us), to mine their lithium and mix their drinks. And along with that is the much-heard narrative of the WEF seeking to severely reduce the earth’s current human population. I’m not wholly on-board with believing any of this; just sayin’ it’s all ‘out there’ and, crazy as it sounds, it is hard to explain.
Except in this way. Readers know that I have retailed my personal view of a collapsing techno-industrial society as The Long Emergency. My own conviction is this: that the general apprehension of such an event, now on-going, has generated among the citizenry such terror as to drive society crazy. (Mass Formation is a related interpretation, not necessary to go into here.)
I suppose this has happened to most other civilizations that wobbled and fell. The one best-known to me — because I wrote about it in The City in Mind (2002) — is the psychosis that overcame the Aztecs 1519 to 1521. It is the weirdest story in history that I know of. Aztec civilization was barely two hundred years old. The great city-state of Tenochtitlan had quickly grown to half a million people when Hernan Cortés and Company, representing Spain of the Inquisition, marched in. Cortés, in his gleaming steel helmet, was the personification of the Aztecs’ god of dawn, wind, and knowledge Quetzalcoatl, the “feathered serpent,” who, in legend, had once ruled the region but went missing and was expected to return from wherever elsewhere the gods reposed and destroy everything. In fact, that’s exactly what Señor Cortés and his few-hundred soldiers proceeded to do to a half million Aztecs and their culture.
During the two years Cortés sojourned among them, the Aztecs went batshit crazy, ramping up their previously modest program of human sacrifice — a few hapless captives now and again — to a fantastic ritual mass bloodbath, cutting the hearts out of hundreds at a time atop their great pyramid to propitiate their sun god, Huitzilopochtli, and persuade him, by such a bloody performance of their devotion, to not end their world. It ended anyway, though another world (arguably not a better one) took its place: Mexico.
This is the kind of periodic human mass insanity that I see in the Four Fuckeries now loose in the world as Western Civ wobbles. The trouble is, having replaced our gods with science, we have no deity to propitiate. Just endless hypotheses of what’s to come.
Note: When I wrote this on Monday Nov 28, I mis-remembered my own book written twenty years earlier and mis-denoted Huitzilopochtli for Quetzalcoatl, for whom the Aztecs took Cortés. Brain fart… now corrected.
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The best statement in the article IMHO was, Wokery “Its primary tactic is to normalize mental illnes…”
There was a story out this weekend where a woman hired a de-programmer to bust her daughter out of Wokeness. Think about, she had to hire someone who helps people get out of cults to bring her daughter around. That is how bad wokeness is.
Oh, and since I can not link articles, here is an excerpt, from the NY Post:
“Annabella Rockwell led a life of privilege even before she entered posh Mount Holyoke College in rural South Hadley, Mass. in 2011. The heiress to a pharmaceutical fortune, she grew up on Manhattan’s Upper East Side, summered in Newport, RI, and later moved with her family to Palm Beach, Fla.
A competitive figure skater who lived abroad for a time in Germany as well as Hong Kong, Rockwell chose Mount Holyoke for its academic rigor and prestige. At the time, she said, she’d grown up in a home with “traditional” values but considered herself open-minded.
But she told The Post she wound up “totally indoctrinated” into viewing the world as a toxic patriarchy and herself as an oppressed victim — and eventually had to be deprogrammed.
Melinda enlisted the help of a deprogrammer who charged $300 a day as well as Annabella’s old tennis coach, Scott Williams, but was warned that it can take up to seven years for someone to overcome what Melinda considered brainwashing.”
I think that is pretty telling about what many Wokesters are going thru. There is a lot more at the article. But yes, this is Fuckery!
I’ve known a few (mostly former) cult members over the years, including a woman I dated who had been an inmate at Bhagwan Rajneesh’s fantasy collective in Oregon. She was averse to talking much about her family background, but let it be known she had an Oxford degree. Not even her years as a mesmerized guru follower could erase the tendency (also known among Harvard and Yale graduates) to drop the name of the hallowed institution whose halls she had graced.
More often than not, it seems, cult members comprise not the wretched of the earth but those with a privileged life. The Annabella Rockwell you cite is another example, her backstory almost comically typical of what passes for a “good upbringing” among the gentry.
Why are the rich and supposedly educated more likely to be pushovers for charismatic frauds? Various reasons no doubt, but I think the common denominator is that in growing up they have little need to develop skills of reality testing.
They live inside the proverbial bubble; neither their social class equals nor the imitator hangers-on they attract are likely to challenge their most bizarre ideas and behavior. The Annabella Rockwells rarely feel the consequences of their mistakes.
These coolest of the comfortable, for all their moral showmanship, don’t seriously probe the mental seductions that come their way. They don’t have to.
well said vegan
Good points, Vegan. A guy from around here joined up with the Heavens Gate crew; he was an ivy League graduate and his father was head of a telecommunications company. He had it good, too good apparently.
Wokeism is a cult.
Wokism is the collective mind gone haywire.
I am 80 so I have lived through some changes. What we have now is the most chilling of all scenarios. A world gone mad with a dumbed down population of fat, unhealthy, sedentary turkeys voting for Thanksgiving dinner when they are not stuffing ballot boxes with fake votes.
I believe there is more than one effort to reduce population at play. That may confuse the folks who keep looking for the good guy to ‘splain it all.
There are no good guys … not anymore.
Cults were big in the 1970s. Or at least more obvious. I recall people having their family members kidnapped and deprogrammed.
I’m guessing this is going on more than we know. And on a much grander scale. There are way more cults now. The cult of gaming, for example. Then Scientology, and satanism, and now wokery. Then there are subsets of that. The Furries cult is a new emerging one, for example.
It’s all batshit. I, too, have drawn parallels to this whacked out behavior of society and the nuttiness that was going on during the fall of Rome.
I had a liberal cp-worker attempt to school me on the furry cult as being a rightwing lie.
I listened and when he was done shook my head and walked away without comment.
Some people will not see anything no matter how much is out there.
Like climate change being stoppable if we would just all go back to the dark ages and submit.
As I was strolling through the park one day I met a young man coming toward me on the path, wearing some kind of furry hat with ears, although it was neither cold out nor Halloween.
My thought in passing as that people will put all kinds of strange hats on their heads.
I happened to glance back after he had passed, and that’s when I noticed he also had a long furry fox-type tail hanging down in the back.
IDK if that was a furry, because I have since been informed that there are “larpers” and larpers do what I and other kids 10 and under used to call make believe or pretending. We never wore actual costumes though, we pretended.
Beryl,
“Furries” and “larpers”? Whatever happened to the “normals” that would beat the shit out of the two outliers? In the high schools I attended, you could be singled out for a bad haircut.
Bullying is underrated.
I was strolling through the park one day,
In the merry, merry month of may,
Finish it, Beryl.
Finish it Beryl….
I was strolling through the park one day,
In the merry, merry month of May,
Where I saw a guy in drag,
And a couple of “furry” fags,
But the Woksters think that it’s OK….
Wow. I have a friend who’s a teacher who is dealing with “furries” children. She asked a friend of both of ours if we had any info on it, my friend did. It stems from adult fetish. And schools are definitely caving into the practice. This is well documented. Your coworker has his/her (zhi? zher?) head in the sand.
It’s not a right wing lie.
I didn’t know about the furries until I was on the trolley in San Jose and we went past the Convention Center.
The plaza was full of people in costume and some of them got on the trolley.
They have conventions. But your co-worker thinks it’s a lie.
That shows the power of the media to warp peoples’ minds.
The kind of person who didn’t believe in the Communist threat.
How do you know if your co-worker is secretly a cow-orker?
they don’t believe that antifa is anything more than an idea too
Cults were big in the 1970s…Probably bigger now.
Is China inc a cult?
North Korea?
Furries! I wonder if Puppy Play is a subset of that??? Biden put some freak in charge of nuclear waste (IIRC) and the dude goes to parties in a dress, and there are pics of him with his puppies. I mean, c’mon.
Puppy play is outright BDSM fetish, IIRC.
just been busted for robbing a woman’s luggage too.
I kid you not.
I forgot the biggest cult of all – the covid death cult.
Which makes Fucci a buttoned-down Jim Jones.
Indeed. But then again I don’t believe Jim Jones poisoned hundreds of people.
The CIA’s behind their deaths.
Agree Mary.
/ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/Jonestown.html
Great post, Paula. I have to put that one in the vault.
Surely he had a key role and is culpable. When the story broke overseas, it felt like an alien I don’t know what world from narration to us. Pointing generally at the CIA makes me confused tho. I think the CIA is a big org with competing and sometime conflicting currents – At least then. Nowadays, of course, I would imagine it’s been purged to be totally un-Clean.
At least back in the Olden Days cults walked the talk. Most were founded by males who attracted harems of women captured by the sexual force of the Founder. When Jim Jones moved his followers to Johnstown in Guyana and then foresaw its collapse he distributed the Kool Aid to all his followers but drank of the Cup himself.
The latest polls indicate that 41% of the American public believe that “Sniffer” OBiden is doing a good job as our President. No matter where they fall on the political or religious spectrum that belief marks them as clinically insane. But a more precise test is whether they support the American proxy war to the last dead Ukrainian. At least 60% rise to that level of psychopathy.
The final test is the same one the Jim Jones followers were subjected to. Will the deranged Americans take the Nuclear Kool Aid their Neo Con leaders are offering?
See above, the Jim Jones thing was all CIA-created. (Paula’s post).
And what do you mean by “back in the Olden Days cults walked the talk.”
Jim Jones drank the Kool Aid. I don’t see Dr. Fraudski volunteering to demonstrate the efficacy of a ventilator or donating the billions in kickbacks he has accumulated to the “vaccine” injured.
Is Hollywoood a cult?
Yes Penelope, Wokery is an important Horseman in Jim’s excellent piece here today, but the other three Horsemen are clearly as critical to the Apocalypse that has been unleashed upon mankind. But if there is one single thing that has facilitated the perpetration of this entire Grand Facade it is Technology.
Ancient and early technologies increased mankind’s ability to produce, to build, and to discover and learn, but the advanced technologies that we are now being subjected to are doing something new, they are making us lazy, stupid, self-absorbed, and dismembered from reality. They are making it extremely easy for those who need and desire total control us to do exactly that and they are utilizing these technologies to protect their hoarded wealth and eliminate the risk of an ever-decaying population.
Everywhere I go I see far too many people glued to their dingleboxes , oblivious to their surroundings, their children as they play sports or engage in activities, or even the act of driving their cars. I cannot figure out WTF it is that has them under a spell, but under a spell they surely are.
So many people have gotten so damned lazy that they have become even too lazy to think and I have had more than a few tell me that. “Oh no, I don’t like to think about things like that. I like to think happy thoughts”. I get that a lot. I will even bet that a majority of idiots out there will gladly embrace AI as a means to be able to do less bothersome thinking. Many have already been polled and have begged to be signed up for implants that will allow them to actually climb inside of those dirty little dingleboxes as soon as it becomes available. Becoming too lazy to think is the catalyst for Wokery and I am not so sure that the spell can be broken, but people like our host are leading the way in the field of shouting to the world, “Wake the fuck up”!
True, but some things about the dingleboxes are fantastic! I can pretty much watch any opera I please on youtube, and any aria for sure. Any book out there is available. There are good parts, but what should be making us smarter and more well-rounded has a dark side to it.
Every trap has to be baited or only a few mindless idiots will wander into it out of sheer stupidity. Yes, good can be accomplished through it, as we do here twice a week, but while a chainsaw is a wonderful tool that can do much good, kindergarten children should not be allowed to play with them.
I refuse to use my dinglebox for anything other than a phone or texting because it is too damned small. All of my internetting is done on a PC with a decent sized screen.
“I refuse to use my dinglebox … because it is too damned small.”
Walter,
Your wife must be a Saint….
Same. I hate texting. The only other thing I use the phone for are photos/video.
And GPS.
I gotta say, elysian, you crack me up with your one liners and your poetry.
He cracks me up, too.
The Final Fuckery
The Fifth Horseman
gab.com/Pig_Farmer/posts/109420373456768545
I don’t have a dinglebox and never did. Anyone that wants to come through this intact ought to learn how to do without them. They broadcast your location and ideas. Hard to feign ignorance if you’ve been clever on line. The things you need a dinglebox to be involved in are mostly not the kinds of things you need, and if it comes down to stuff like needing one for grocery shopping, then we’ve got a challenge–but we are going to have a lot more serious challenges than that ahead. Reduce use with the goal of giving it up entirely. Find others around you similarly inclined. None? Be an example and persuade them.
Walter
Televisions are good for only one thing. Long range target practice with an elk rifle.
Dingleboxes are entertaining as they present different aspects when thrown in the air and blasted with a shotgun.
Imagine the psychological distress if an EMP attack would instantaneously disable them. 60% of Americans wouldn’t last more than a few hours before they ran screaming into the streets and pulling their hair out.
Why would you watch an opera on your hand held gizmo? Maybe with a decent sized laptop. I prefer an actual book to read as well.
It depends on where I am. I can be working on the computer and have an opera, or other music playing in the background. Nothing can inspire you like Song To The Moon from Rusalka!
I’ll Czech it out. Never been too much of an opera buff, except for Mozart. Never liked the Italian stuff.
Wade,
Do yourself a favor and listen to this short piece. If it does not make you happy to be alive, well, I will apologize.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViOIImq_84g
You guys are so highbrow.
I like this:
youtube.com/watch?v=M1F0lBnsnkE
Nice, Penelope, thx
M?sí?ku na nebi hlubokém
Sv?tlo tvé daleko vidí,
Po sv?t? bloudíš širokém,
Díváš se v p?íbytky lidí.
M?sí?ku, post?j chvíli
?ekni mi, kde je m?j milý
?ekni mu, st?íbrný m?sí?ku,
mé že jej objímá rám?,
aby si alespo? chvili?ku
vzpomenul ve sn?ní na m?.
Zasvi? mu do daleka,
?ekni mu, ?ekni mu, kdo tu na? ?eká!
O mne-li duše lidská sní,
a? se tou vzpomínkou vzbudí!
M?sí?ku, nezhasni, nezhasni!
Oh, well, that didn’t render very nice
it’s from here, but I don’t think the singer is a native
lyricstranslate.com/en/mesicku-na-nebi-hlubokem-moon-song.html
Happiness is a serious business, E-fields. Can a youtube clip do it all?
“Happiness is a serious business, E-fields. Can a youtube clip do it all?”
Amman,
Of course not. Happiness is transitory. Fleeting, perhaps even ephemeral. I’ll take it where I can get it. That piece not only makes me smile, it almost brings tears to my eyes.
May it be as big and as lasting as the Sun next time for you.
@ Paula D:
That dance video is really a treat. I used to love to dance and seeing this makes me wish I had had some formal training in that. My daughters took dance classes when they were younger, and I used to try to do the old shuffle-ball-change and chaines turns–when I had the viewing room to myself.
I love it also, Anthea. Someone has some awesome editing chops.
It makes me happy every time I watch it.
I suppose to those folks (the ones living in THe Truman Show), thinking is bothersome and best left to a machine, so they can sit on their duffs all day and daydream or have it done for them.
Yes, the misuse of technology has led us here. I have great respect for Luddites.
@Walter — I would post the link if I could but an extended interview with the late Aldous Huxley (long before PCs or cell phones of course) prophesied that drugs to “calm us”, recreational sex, technology to control and entertain would make it possible to enslave the human race and that we would be content in our slavery. A few malcontents of course, but the majority would be compliant.
Fentynl and meth are pouring into the US and the border is wide open to facilitate distribution. Pornography is ubiquitous and easily accessible to kids and deviations are not only tolerated but enshrined as “freedom to be who we really are”. JHK is right — mental illness has been normalized and to question this trend is to be labeled as insensitive and prudish. And the internet with programs like TikTok have served to magnify it. It’s very telling that even though this app apparently is owned by the Chinese, they don’t allow it unregulated in their country.
There have always been prophets who see what will come and do what they can to warn the herd of danger ahead, such as our host (Remember the “Prophets of Doom You Tube featuring Jim and Mike Ruppert from 2011). The problem is that a decaying society comes to embrace the degradation and prefers bright and shiny lies over inconvenient truths.
Yes, the Chinese are smarter than taking over America by force, facilitating an inside collapse will leave all of the precious recourses intact. The only thing that will be missing are the worthless people. No problem, there are plenty Chinese to fix it up and “build it back better”. Hey, isn’t that Joe’s plan?
It’s ironic, but the “late” Aldous Huxley did indeed have a reputation for always being late.
I sent one of my works in progress, a historical novel set during the Norman Conquest, to a beta reader for feedback. I’ve been working on it, on and off, for about five years, and it’s going to be massive, about 300,000 words. He hated the treatment of females, and referred me to a site that explained how women should be written about. I was mightily offended; I am a woman, and I think I know better then he does the character of women, and I’m not changing history to reflect an intersectional feminism that didn’t exist. The women in my novel are strong women, but they are strong in traditional ways. and that was not good enough for him.
History is being rewritten. I see it when I do a quick check on something in Wikipedia, which can no longer be trusted. It is not mentioned by any of the contemporary historiians of day who wrote about him, probably because it was common and considered so unimportant as to be not worth mentionng, but William the Conquorer beat his wife. Many men did. It was codified into English Common Law, that a man could use a stick no bigger around than his thumb to beat his wife. He was a bruiser, and she was considered petite for that day. He beat her the first time they met. Stories vary, about the actual incident, but they all agree that some form of abuse took place. It was only noteworthy because it took place before their marriage. One of them indicates that he beat her in her own father’s hall and it almost came to bloodshed between the men-not for the beating itself, but the insult done to her father under his roof, as she was still, technically, under his protection. One of the Icelandic Sagas, (which can’t be used, of course, as reference material) states that he beat his queen to death with the halter of his horse when she went out to greet him on his return from somewhere. He was probably irritated at something that had nothing to do with her.
I’m not responsible for history, and that was a brutal time, but I’m going to depict it as accurately as I can. History is not politically correct.
I’d like to read your novel when it comes available and I hope you’ll let the regulars on the blog know. The unvarnished history of the human race is not one of brotherly love and justice, no matter what Netflix tells us. And wife and child beating was considered within bounds of legal rights not that long ago either. My Dad told us that even though his father was very strict they considered themselves lucky b/c their neighbors beat their kids. The time period was during the Depression and they were first generation immigrant families.
My dad was a child of the depression and he beat us. We considered ourselves lucky, though too, as he didn’t chase us out in the middle of the night, like our neighbor did to his kids when he was drink (they took refuge in our barn), or take the wire fly swatter handle to us, as the neighbor on the other side did.
You are totally correct in not editing real history to kow-tow to the approvals of today’s current thinking. History has been revised enough to begin with.
This William the Conqueror chap sounds like a charming fellow. He was after all, a descendant of Vikings.
Yes, a direct descendent in the male line of Hrolf the Walker (so named because he was too big to ride a horse). William was a terrible enemy, and it wasn’t good to be taken to him alive. He once starved the wife of one of his enemies to death. He had the feet cut off of all the men in one town he took because they insulted his mother. When he was in the field, and his enemy was holed up in a castle, he laid waste to the countryside for miles around, killing everyone he could catch and burning the crops.
“Hrolf the Walker (so named because he was too big to ride a horse)”
LMAO!!! History is endlessly entertaining. Much moreso than anything you can see on TV nowadays.
Geez. All the royal Houses of Europe are descendents of William. He was the gosh-dang Ghengis Khan of Europe.
Oops, Genghis
He was King of England, by right of conquest, but he was only the Duke of Normandy in France. He was sworn to the King of France, who was his liege lord.
There’s nothing the untalented 85% of women hate more than nice guys. They’re weak. They want bad boys.
Doggone it, Walter. Every time I hear of one of these bizarre phenomena (such as you describe, and other mentions above) I cannot help but flash back to what I have read about Rome around 300 A.D.: Empire crumbling, filthy, alien-creed foreigners invading and mixing, coin of the realm debased, silly, insane, dangerous emperor – actually a puppet of the Praetorian Guard (Deep State of the time). Wealthy, paranoid, deeply-corrupt Senate, each with their country estates they hope will defend them against the collapse.
Bread and circuses to keep the fat, bored, increasingly uneasy and fearful masses calmed.
It’s creepy.
So true. Very creepy. Can you recommend a book about Rome around 300AD? I’d like to learn more.
@ wendissimo:
I would also like to learn more about that era.
My favorite books about ancient Rome–of the few that I’ve read–are “I, Claudius” (much earlier than 300 AD) and “Justinian’s Flea” (much later).
“Oh no, I don’t like to think about things like that. I like to think happy thoughts”.
Or in California speak: “I’m a real POSITIVE person.”
OT: I’m a newbie here. Can I use HTML tags such as ? I much prefer italics for emphasis rather than all-caps even for a single word.
Ha! I guess I just unwittingly answered my own question!
/In mod/
The Final Fuckery, Walter B and Penny Dreadful?
Here, then, is the face of the Fifth Horseman. The rough beast slouching, His hour come at last.
(h)(t)(t)(p)(s)(:)(/)(/)
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Sorry, all, attempted repeats.
This is big. Bigger than big, the biggest of all.
2 minutes on the penultimate goal of the Covid trojan horse: meat puppets, as the literal body of the Cloud.
None here know it, but this is what Nature does. It is the function of the two layer ecology, of body and soul, to create oversouls such as this- what you call the gods.
A new, emergent life form is being born. This is an awesome and terrible glory to witness.
I live not far from Rashida Tlaib’s district and have always been puzzled by why her constituents continue to vote for a congresswoman who has done nothing to improve their lives. Ms. Tlaib treats her congressional district as an extension of the Middle East and pretty much ignores the concerns of non-Muslims, especially African Americans. Nobody on the left calls her out on her dual loyalty to Detroit and I’m guessing it’s the same with the rest of the squad. The whole woke con seems to be predicated on the myth that the non-Western countries are pure and innocent until the West corrupts them. Is this a productive way to govern a nation, treat it as an extension of some other place?
Look at some of the fossils in Congress right now — Pelosi, Diane Feinstein, Chuck Schumer, Mitch McConnell — and they run unopposed year after dreary year. And people like the Squad and Adam Schiff are set up to carry on the same way. Nothing ever seems to be demanded of these people by the voters so how it will ever change is beyond me.
” to mine their lithium and mix their drinks.”
James ! Ya gotta let me use that phrase. in conversation
the book about the Aztecs is bon-fiction I suppose
good commentary thanks
It is a relief to know that growing numbers of people are identifying Wokeness as the cult movement that it is…
….but it is going to take legions of deprogrammers to cleanse our body politic of this derangement.
This could take time, and we may not have much left.
Did it work? If it worked it would be a great thing. I’ve been looking for a cure for years.
Woke women are the most miserable creatures on the planet. I mean, even Dung Beetles seem to love what they do. Not woke women. Their whole life is about making everyone else as miserable as they are.
Woke women spend years preparing themselves for a world that has driven men to early graves for generations. What a great idea.
Women are certainly more susceptible to letting their emotions lead them astray, but males today are being connived and programmed to be just as bad off in that regard. I know a few women that are brilliant and far superior in intellect than most of the males I know so a blanket statement is unfair and inaccurate. If female emotions are being utilized to lead them down the wrong path, then male cowardice coupled with the main drive of being a life support system for a penis means that an awful lot of human beings out there are forming a lemming-hearted hoard that is move ever faster towards the shore. (That’s from “Too Young to Rock and Roll, Too Young to Die” byt Jethro Tull in the song “The Chequered Flag ((Dead or Alive))”.
Christianity is clear: Men are supposed to be in charge.
Walter: Yes, generalization. It’s called thinking. If every thing you encountered was without pre-judgement or prejudice, the human race would have died out a long time ago.
A man and his young son are out hunting and they spot a sabertooth tiger off in the distance. Does the man tell his son what it is and how dangerous they are? Or does he just shrug and say, what an interesting form of life. Big. Look at those teeth. We had a bad experience with something like that before. But I don’t want to generalize…..
One can generalize well or poorly of course. But to be against generalization, well again, it’s the most basic form of thinking.
You never appeared to be a leader type. I picture you more of an “I was only following orders” kind of guy.
Definitely.
Bitter ad hominem because I pointed out you were wrong. You are a disgrace.
You are certainly an expert on disgrace.
You were wrong. Then you sinned. Going to keep on digging yourself in deeper?
I forgot that you are one of those who have to have the last post, I get it. I will do you the favor of giving you one more opportunity to do that and then I will ignore you, your insults and your childish posts from now on, I promise.
You’re a sore loser who doesn’t know how to debate – or is afraid to because he’s knows he’ll lose.
So you run hurling insults over your shoulder.
@ Walter B:
“Disgrace” is certainly much on Jarek’s mind.
Sounds to me like a family pathology. He’s probably channeling “games Mommy and Daddy liked to play” to browbeat the children when they were young.
Pro tip: Not everybody plays that.
Me and my BFF both agree. Maybe 10% to 15% of women can think “like men”, but most women can’t. I hate it that my gender can vote. Most women should concentrate on being good wives and mothers, and that is not going to happen “naturally” in a democratic type country in the Modern Age.
Personally, I like men, but I do not want children. I may regret that when I am older.
Explain what ‘thinking like a man’ means.
That is too vague of a statement to mean anything, imo.
“Thinking like a man” means both thinking rationally and not think in an over-personalized fashion.
Think about a mother lion. Does morality mean anything to her? Hell no, all she cares about is feeding her cubs. Anything goes. Now, imagine her as a woman. On some biological level, does she care anything about morality? Or does she care about feeding her kid. Or becoming pregnant.
That is why women, particularly un-married ones, like welfare, and social programs. It feeds them and it feeds their kids. BUT, look at the results in the inner city.
Men, otoh, can think more broadly, and see the bigger picture.
I hope that helps.
Good old Penny Dread! Great analogy. The best women always support men against other women. Like Queen Victoria did:
“We women are not made for governing.” Speaking in third person, she continued “The Queen is most anxious to enlist some one who can speak & write etc. checking this mad, wicked folly of ‘Woman’s rights,’ with all the attendant horrors, on which her poor feeble sex seems bent…God created man & woman different — & let each remain in their own position.”
Jarek: And that ten or fifteen percent can also care about men as people. Most women just see us as things that add to their lives. The Male Super-Tribe is clear: Never share any emotions with them, any doubts or weakness – because it will be used against it. Assuming they don’t automatically lose all respect for you immediately and kick you to the curb.
Men naturally fear being put into a vulnerable situation by becoming tied to such animal women, either emotionally and/or financially via marriage and children. So they’re not going to marry. Or even become involved unless they meet one of the good ones. And how do you know except by a long courtship?
Similarly, the British Library reports the queen saw contemporary gender roles as divinely ordained. In 1870, she wrote “Let women be what God intended, a helpmate for man, but with totally different duties and vocations.”
Jarek, Queen Victoria was not particularly well educated or prepared to rule. That was done on purpose. Hoping for a regency during her minority, her mother’s lover intended on ruling for her. Sadly, Victoria didn’t like him, and Melbourne put the kebosh on his ambitions.
Educated people are usually the worst. Vicky had abundant commonsense. The best women are for men – and against the average woman.
@Penny — “does she care anything about morality?”
If any person — male or female — is put in a position of possible starvation or having their children starve, then they’ve been reduced to survival level and will fight to feed them.
As for the inner city with high rates of illegitimacy and welfare recipients, it looks to me to be more the actions of men to FAIL to “see the bigger picture” (their inherent responsibility to their children) and choose the cowardly, convenient route of desertion.
If this is what “thinking like a man” is, no thanks.
Also the Brits:
“The rich man in his castle, The poor man at his gate, God made them, high or lowly, And ordered their estate.”
There goes the American male delusion of grandeur by reason of his sex.
“Think about a mother lion. Does morality mean anything to her? Hell no, all she cares about is feeding her cubs. Anything goes. Now, imagine her as a woman. On some biological level, does she care anything about morality?”
Think about a daddy chimpanzee. Does morality mean anything to him? Hell no. All he cares about is bagging a female. Anything goes – he’ll even kill his own offspring.
Now, imagine him as a man. On some biological level, does he care anything about morality?
Sheesh.
Maybe it’s just daddy lions that have ‘morality’ and can be anthropomorphised to make a point – or try to.
Women don’t think rationally?
If that were true, no kids would make it past toddler age.
@ Penelope Dreadful:
The mother lion’s drive to feed her cubs is entirely rational–and moral, as far as that goes.
Men are subject to equally powerful drives, which are also biological. Sex is one, but the male sex drive has quite a few corollary biological drives, among them the drive to be the alpha who gets the most and best pussy, which, among humans, means a drive to achieve wealth and power. This may be perfectly rational too, though I would say it has a lesser claim to morality. Does morality mean anything to the male? It manifestly doesn’t.
Men are no more likely than women to “think more broadly” or “see the bigger picture.”
Anthea nails it again.
Never forget that Jarek heartily endorsed an ‘argument’ that said ‘look at a mother lion … now think of her as a woman’.
Really, that’s what he thinks of as an argument. And he claims men are rational. it boggles the mind. Or maybe, if you haven’t got much of one, it doesn’t.
Jarek is a laughable caricature of a typical men’s rights activist & incel.
This gives me an idea for a cartoon/comic strip.
Albee: I don’t say men are rational, certainly not all men; just that in the aggregate they are more rational than women. That’s not saying much. A very low standard indeed.
What is your husband doing these days? More fuckwittery? Have you thought any more about why you married him?
As a response, that was very low calibre. I should feel sorry for you.
One of the most honest assessments of female nature that I’ve heard from a member of the fairer sex in quite some time. Bravo. I concur.
Helena Handbasket:
“If women were in charge, we’d still be living in caves– but with really fancy curtains!”
You’ve just lost 2 points.
Men build. Women decorate. Mary snarls.
Impress us with tales of the things you have built, Jarek.
My Kingdom is not of this world. Yet I never cease to build. Some of the stones (crumbs) fall back down here however.
Thanks for confirming my point.
Perhaps the dumbest comment on the internet today and that’s really saying something.
“I hate it that my gender can vote.”
You can always count on myriad suspects here at CFN to provide readers a glimpse into their troglodyte way of thinking.
No shit. Wow.
Self-hating women – yuckers.
Yet we were told- promised!- that a world run by women would be a better place.
It seemed reasonable, it did, but instead is a perfect illustration of Chesterton’s Fence.
Yes women are so powerful, they’ve taken over the world.
Can’t roll my eyes up into my head far enough.
Unless women have all power, they have no power. And thus they aren’t responsible for anything – and they can continue to scream about their oppression so as to gain more power.
The dialectic of Feminism explained in the fewest possible words. Is my IQ 1500? Not quite.
People ask why I focus on Mary? She is perfect feminist type; an archetype in human form.
I despair at representing her perfectly. That would take the powers of a Dickens. But I do my best and it bears at lest some fruit.
Many point to the 19th, I will not say they are wrong, as I think our good women were led down the primrose path. They deserved better than to be abused as innocent proxies by malignant schemers.
What the greater crime is, is the relentless expansion of the franchise.
Voting has become its own sordid industry, a precious thing given away until it has no value, nor meaning, nor effect.
We are only made to vote now to show our rulers how much we love them.
What astounds the most is how civic nationalists thought we could give the vote, and all our hard-built treasures, away to foreign tribes, and that they would not immediately vote us out of power and themselves in as soon as they had the numbers.
I doubt you’ll regret it, Penelope, if you are standing up for your principles. I always liked men; I never had children; I’m older now; I feel my choice has been validated by recent events; I suspect you will feel even more validated. There are other ways to leave a legacy.
I have children who are now grown. I fear for their future.
It’s difficult to accept that it’s my fault I turned them loose in a dysfunctional world, but that’s the truth.
They don’t support me, by the way. When people think they should squeeze out some babies so that their kids will hand them money when they’re grown, they are proving they are too deluded to reproduce, imo.
Jarek is correct. It IS called thinking.
The part where we exercise judgment based on past experience and careful observation is called “common sense” where I grew up.
Sadly, it is less common today than was once the case.
Walter is an intelligent man. I can’t imagine why he takes this tack – except perhaps to get in good with the ladies? Or perhaps more charitably and generally (and sans motive), because it’s a common logical fallacy.
Most people can’t think about thinking. And those that might be able to, aren’t encouraged to do so, so they are unpracticed in it.
We’re just too extraverted…..
When men were away oveseas, the first think women did when they got the vote was to outlaw drinking, gambling, and brothels: everything natural to a man.
That you agree with someone who operates as a sociopath is telling. Another 2 points lost.
Dang it, and here I was going to show off all the snazzy Hugo Boss uniforms in my secret closet to Walter B.
I was hoping he’d be impressed.
You too, you ladies do like a sharp-dressed man, no?
Trenchantly on point. One of your best.
Quem Iuppiter vult perdere, dementat prius
Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad
Fac mine RAV4
I’ve heard one theory that the victims of the Aztecs’ ritual mass-murder were not just a bunch of hapless prisoners of war as we were taught in school, but were actually people from within Aztec society who challenged the authority of the priests. People who “questioned the narrative”, as we might say today.
They were canceled. Same thing happens today if you speak out.
Apocalypto was a movie about this exact subject. It was the story of a young Aztec rebel escaping from the priests about to cut his heart out. He escapes the soldiers trying to hunt him down, makes it to the ocean just in time to see Cortez landing on the beach.
John,
Apocalypto is an excellent film indeed.
Minor correction, the world depicted is the Maya, not Aztec. An older civilization that at the time was in decadence and paid tribute to Tenochtitlán, the Aztec imperial capital.
Most Mesoamerican cultures practised human sacrifice, not just the Mexica, the last one before Cortés and his small but ferocious warband put an end to it.
Occult offerings. Cult = Occult?
I also don’t know what to think about Mr K’s fuckery #4… but there must be some amongst us hellbent on making alliance with dark and old powers.
Science is not all and cannot explain all.
And now child sacrifice is back en vogue, with people giving their kids the clotshot. I wonder if the parents of the sacrificed back then truly believed that they were doing the right thing, or if they even had a choice in the matter.
I too thought it was Mayan, due to the dying crops, but no, it was indeed the Mexica (Azteca). Even the language used was Nahuatl.
The Azteca undoubtedly suffered the same oversalination of their fields and overpopulation pressures, since they used the same irrigation science.
The brilliance of Gibson’s genius is this: the entire movie was made to explain one cryptic line in the ship’s logs.
Remember the ragged little girl pushed away with sticks, her mother dead of a plague?
We saw her being possessed by one of the chacutl, the old gods. We watched as she prophesied: “Beware the Jaguar Man! You will see the coming of the end of your world!”
At the end, they did. They saw the coming of the Conquistador galleons.
And that cryptic line? It was this, what the entire movie was made to explain:
“We were met by three natives on the beach; but, one ran away, we know not why.”
The Aztecs were usurpers, invaders who had taken over an old civilization. But they did manage to make a go of it – so they were able administrators as well as being fierce warriors.
Another theory: They thought Cortez was Quetzcoalt, the great White teacher who had promised to return. The priests feared he would punish them for perverting his religion of love. As far as I can understand it, offering your heart up to the Sun originally meant something like what Christianity and other religions believe – with the Sun symbolizing God in this case. Cutting someone else’s heart out and holding it up to the Sun is quite a different thing…..
Imagine Lord Fauci…..high atop a craggy Aztec pyramid in DC – arms drenched in blood up to his elbows – from ripping out hearts all afternoon.
Yeah….that kind of tyranny.
Only Fauci and Co. don’t need no stinkin’ knife or feathered headdress. Nope…..just an endless boatload of COVID jabs as far as the eye can see, rupturing hearts around the globe.
Nice meditation on all the current madness. “The Four Fuckeries” is also an excellent explanatory term for it. Almost makes me want to live longer to see how it all turns out. Almost…
Almost!
Ha! “I think I’ll call you Almost,” from Apocalypto!
Almost…
One word can say a lot. Good find, Disaffected.
2¢: one has to be around for others, for as long as possible.
What “find” do you mean?
I meant using “almost” to such devastating effect. Capping our desire to live longer, because of how deranged things have become all around.
Wow, you are easily impressed.
As am I! So much said in one small word.
That’s why I juggle- because I am easily entertained, as well!
I’ll be 80 next June. I would like to live long enough to see how it turns out.
I want to live another hundred years, just to see, too!
You will be able to see from the Other Side, at least while you are in one of the middle astral planes before you move higher if you earn the promotion.
Here’s a preview: There is never any ‘turns out’ – things just keep morphing and changing forever.
@ MaryQueen:
Yes, that’s how it works. That’s one of those secrets of the universe that should be self-evident, but aren’t.
People like to try to prove the existence of God by insisting that there has to be a “first cause”–a beginning. I don’t see any need to posit either a “beginning” or an “end.” I see these things as human constructs without a real existence.
I have also never been able to figure out why people think time has a real existence, let alone why they would think it’s a fourth dimension. It’s really just an artificial construct, where you measure (or try to measure) the motion of one thing relative to the motion of another thing. What we call time is really just motion.
Ok then. If anybody needs me I’ll be out back with a rope. Nah, just kitten.
Meanwhile BRH’s stompin’ grounds are up in flames. No Sam Adams and fried clams on the rooftop this week.
Elaborate.
4-5 alarm fire on the waterfront in Mystic, CT. . Probably Marlin’s Tesla started it.Of course all the water they’re using for suppression is gonna raise ocean levels.
Ahh! I thought that might be it.
Who is BRH???
Who is BRH???
Resident CFN denizen o’ the deep. Salty Squid 1st Class.
I am still lost. Does it have anything to do with Lovecraft???
BRH = Back Room Heckler
I don’t know why people choose such complicated handles
I guess it is Back ROW Heckler.
Ha, ha, yeah. Heckling from a back room loses its effectiveness.
BRH’s handle is one of my favorites. Complicated? Wat?
GNO – Good night, Irene.
I get sick of these coy “insider” initials some on here are so wont to misuse. Every frickin’ week. I snarled about it last week.
Is there a club I can join? How much are the dues? Maybe this perdition / limbo is a first step in the ‘process?’
” limbo is a first step…”
…How low can you go….?
It’s not THAT bad, really. I’m still waiting for someone to reference my “handle” with the acronym WOTS.
LOL…
Guess I need to post more frequently.
…Wiz….
The WIZ!! Nobody beats him!
https://youtu.be/pRf_A07Elyw
DaveO907,
Right, mate. I’m new here but I’ve expressed dissatisfaction on other sites about using abbreviations that aren’t common knowledge.
It’s not really to save time, and even if it were, the benefit is for the writer, not the reader. No, it is one-upmanship. “What, you don’t know what GRVDB is short for? Come back when you’re more hip.”
Hang around for awhile until you learn them like everyone else, instead of expecting people to cater to you. That’s my advice.
Falls down on item four, IMO. WEF is the front for the banking institutions, corporations, and other masters of the universe, who are part of other related organizations that the public knows little about — like Bilderberg.
The pedophilia and abuse is not a WEF thing, and is not part of Transhumanism per se. Transhumanism is the Technocrats’ vision of a future in which man is merged with machine and the elites leave behind the normal humans on a “technological Noah’s Ark” as Yuval Harari has claimed.
This naturally requires lots of experimentation and a society fully under control of said elites.
Much of this information is available in Schwab and Harari’s own books.
The allergy to “conspiracy theory” is a strange one, unless one believes conspiracy theories are all about lizard men and literal blood-drinking ghouls.
Pretty disappointing, TBH.
Jim has sponsors to appease, so I imagine he’s a little reticent to go too far out on the CT limb.
Disaffected — Fuck you. I don’t refrain from saying anything because of sponsors. — JHK Admin
That is kind of my point. Just a week ago Trudeau, Ardern, and many of the YGL’s were hobnobbing it with the Schwabster in public view. He and his key henchman have written books on their plans. They shut families out of supermarkets at the height of the Covid nonsense, and they openly talk about some of the most off-the-wall nonsense I have heard from any individual standing on a stage anywhere.
Yet it moves forward, because to call it out is just a bridge to far for some.
It’s still moving forward. Denial is a waste of time.
In my view if you’re not a conspiracy theorist you’re a coincidence theorist. People conspire to further their agendas. Conspiracy happens. Coincidence not so much.
I’m a screw-up theorist!
Well then, fuck you too, JHK. You’ve really become a sanctimonious prick of late. Me thinks you protest a little too much.
Disaffected — You made a serious accusation against me: that I tailor my writing to suck-up to advertisers. Don’t cross me again and quit complaining. –JHK Admin
this is his site. 17??? years of giving.
Well, didn’t that go downhill fast and it’s not even noon yet.
I’m not seeing the sanctimony. Seriously.
Some good spleen venting is helpful from time to time.
Dis,
Seeking approbation is a “bridge too far”. I set my sights on “forbearance” and have not been disappointed.
Trying to avoid impertinence while witnessing prophecy imbues gratitude.
FYT!?!
Wow…..
Things are getting salty today.
But the bottom line is this: It’s Jim’s site. He foots the bill. He makes the rules. None of us are held here against our will.
Just sayin’…
Dis, please, just apologize.
We apologize to our friends.
Night Owl, I must disagree, I think James’s moderate approach is just right. Evil on this scale requires a steady hand, as you yourself have so oft shown.
Sorry, but it doesn’t appear that Jim and I are “friends.” His choice.
I am just putting it out there. We are all free to act as we will.
I see this as the fight for the future of humanity. Mike Yeadon said something similar recently. If these chains go on, there ain’t going to be anything we can do about it for many generations to come, if ever.
It is all that matters right now.
No not really. I merely acknowledged that anyone who hosts a sponsored blog has to be sensitive to what his sponsors might think about his writing for fear of losing them. It’s just part of the deal. I think that’s a pretty reasonable assumption, and not all necessarily pejorative, although you certainly chose to take it that way. It was certainly more flattering than the only other explanation I could come up with at the time for you being so CT averse, which I won’t mention here for getting REALLY riled up, although I’ve since come up with another, which you probably wouldn’t care for either.
I’ll make a deal with you Jim. I’ll self-censor my comments about you even more than I’m doing currently – which is already considerable! – if you agree to stop riding in with both guns blazing every time you perceive the slightest sleight with the “fuck you’s” and all the rest. Golden rule and all that. That’s the third or fourth time I’ve got that from for what were at most petty offenses to your fragile ego, and I swore the last time it happened I wouldn’t lay down for it anymore. If that gets me banned, then so be it.
I like this kind of call out at least you know exactly where you stand and so does everyone else.
Ct – Connecticut?
Knucklehead. Conspiracy Theory.
TGYNIC
Thank God You’re Not In Charge
CINYGT
Can I negate your goddamn trustfund?
Did you think of those?
Bravo James.
Yes, I also think he got a few things wrong this week, and Friday.
Still enjoy reading and his take on stuff.
Agree that the pedophilia thing is a separate thing, and has always been going on. That is related to the satanic stuff as well, but not necessarily always entwined. It’s a huge industry. And war and illegal immigration fuel it. So one starts to see a connection between all these wars being started and the procurement of women and children for sex trafficking. It’s a sick world, and we know who the psychos are.
And we are talking children. The MSM did a good job of making the Jeffrey Epstein story about Prince Andrew being a pedophile, which also helped along the woke goal of tearing down the monarchy.
No one noticed that Prince Andrew’s accuser wasn’t part of that trial or that it wasn’t even about pedophilia, it was about Ghislaine Maxwell procuring a number of underage girls, not children, for Epstein and no one else.
The only reason NY got interested in Epstein in the first place was because they hoped to pin something on Donald Trump.
They couldn’t, so they backed out of it as best they could, by putting a dead man on trial.
I recall the Catholic Church scandal.
It was spun as a pedo scandal.
IMO it was a GAY pederast scandal, mostly.
The Boy Scouts have also had a scandal and cover up.
One woman was angry that almost all the victims were boys. No victimization points for women here?
That’s how utterly turned around women can get in their thinking.
“Scandal” is the word used for the crimes of the rich and powerful.
We plebes should use the proper word instead.
“Crime”.
Underage girls being procured is illegal, and just as wrong as procuring children who are a few years younger. In the US, you are not an adult until you are 18.
Mary,
True, but entirely cultural.
Yeah, talking about 16 or 17 year olds as children is ridiculous. But we don’t let them vote or sign contracts, so they aren’t fully mature either.
They’re at an ambiguous stage. And people can’t handle ambiguity very well. The other extreme is Kesa, who would give little kids guns. She’s enraged they didn’t let her start chain smoking when she was seven.
I had no idea there were so many here who think adults forcing teens to have sex is perfectly fine. I kinda suspected it, though.
Duly noted.
The narrowness of this person remind one of the Pit and the Pendulum. The walls, the fiery walls, began to close in driving the prisoner into the Pit.
Going after teenaged girls is actually a different fetish than lusting after prepubescent children.
It is called ephebophilia.
(As an aside, I forgot what it was called so googled it. Gross! There are many websites that cater to that fetish._
Huh. Actually, according to this website, ephebolia is attraction to older teenagers, 15 to 19.
Then there is Hebephilia
Arousal to pubescent aged children, approx. 11-14
Then there is Schwab’s other fetish…
Formicophilia
Arousal to insects
And the furries….
Autoplushophilia
Arousal to oneself dressed as a giant cartoon-like stuffed animal
And, of course, the trannies….
Autogynephilia
Arousal to oneself [male only] in the form of a woman
Fetishes are almost completely a phenomenon of men.
I guess that’s what “thinking like a man” means.
Yes, Jerry Lee Lewis (one of Mary’s favorites) married his 13 year old cousin. Most 13 year olds look better than 31 year olds. It really is tragic. Beauty is so fleeting. One does best to strike while the iron is hot.
Thirteen is a bit young of course. But 31 is too old already. A bit of balance is called for, but our Civilization is committed to imbalance – and that didn’t start recently. Doctors have been lying to women for generations about this. If you want marriage and children, get on it by your mid-20’s at the latest. Career should come LATER if that’s what you want. And as a Society, that’s what we need. So? So that’s what we should promulgate – just as we promulgate the wrong idea now, that of late marriage and children, desperately pursued by desperate women already past their prime.
Mary,
big dividing line between the sexually, biologically immature children and adolescents, post-pubescence, sexually mature.
Not psychologically mature, of course, but cannot compare one situation to the other.
For most of human history, it wasn’t uncommon for 15 yr old girls to be mothers already, married to older men.
The 18 yr old line is arbitrary. Most cultures welcome children to adulthood at 13, 15 years of age.
“I had no idea there were so many here who think adults forcing teens to have sex is perfectly fine…”
Mary,
Forcing is one thing…silently lusting another. Men are hardwired to become attracted to female secondary sexual characteristics….THIS, as Alba would suggest, is settled science.
The biological imperative.
It is the nature of the male human.
It will not change.
Biology is a tricky bitch. She gives us the ability to procreate years before we have the maturity necessary to do so responsibly. So man intervenes with is laws. In America this means that if I get frisky with a hot girl who is 17 yrs and 364 days old…..I’m headed to the old hoosegow for “statutory rape”….but if I wait another 24 hours 8 can have my way with her (providing she consents) and the law says I am golden.
So, yeah, it’s an arbitrary societal construct that is at war with nature to some degree.
My grandmother was 15 when she married my grandfather, who was 24. That was in 1926. No one blinked an eye. Today poor old granddad would get hauled off to jail by a mob of pussyhat fashionista’s.
Likewise, my dad was 22 when he married my 17 year old mom. Again, no one got a case of the vapors in 1961.
Today, we seem worse than the Puritans in this whole conversation about when people are “old enough” to be doin’ the nasty. I suspect that this has much to do with the proliferation of bona fide child molesters chasing minors who haven’t even reached puberty yet.
With every sensational case blasted across the Internet we used to see politicians trying to elbow each other out of the way to see who can propose the most draconian laws possible to rein-in the worst of these sexual predators. This the strict laws on the books.
Now we seem to be headed in the opposite direction, with some of our political leaders competing to see how rapidly they can legalize all forms of sexual deviancy and degeneracy until we are no better than the ancient Romans were in that department.
In other parts of the globe, the age of consent is much lower and, therefore legal. Why didn’t Epstein work in those countries if he liked young teens? I am not endorsing old dudes having sex with teens btw. If my middle-aged uncle brought a 14-15 year-old to the family Christmas party as his date that would upset me.
Mary Q said “I had no idea there were so many here who think adults forcing teens to have sex is perfectly fine.”
That’s a bit of a stretch, isn’t it? “Forcing” sex is rape, no matter what age.
It’s called ephebophilia and it called liking girls. Completely normal.
Paula of course considers it a fetish like being into furries.
There is simply no limit to how easily women get completely twisted around in their thinking.
The guy in Lolita was into hebes. He met Lolita later and she seemed old to him. But he still loved her anyway. He transcended his conditioning, a huge breakthrough. But she was by then married to another and pregnant too. He got very angry and and sought revenge on the one who had helped her escape from him.
When I was 16 I was boy crazy. I checked out every teenaged boy around.
I distinctly remember to this day suddenly thinking “Will I ever outgrow this? Will I be 40 years old and still think 16 y.o. boys are attractive? Eeewwww, gross.”
I am happy to report that I grew out of that stage.
I guess because I am female and therefore not prone to fetishes.
It is not normal for a grown man to still lust after teenagers.
And it is definitely not normal for grown men to lure teenaged girls into sex for money. It is gross and illegal.
And it has nothing to do with biological imperatives. It is exploitation and perversion.
“The biological imperative.
It is the nature of the male human.
It will not change.”
You seem to be off message, EF. Elsewhere, I am reliablly informed that woman = biological and man = rational and moral.
@Paula D – zing!
Thinking like a man – SMDH. As ridiculous as men with ‘lady brain.’
Very sad also that some of you miss the point that Beryl was trying to give the very gruesome lying slug Prince Andrew the benefit of the doubt.
Just, ew.
I am surprised by that post, frankly.
Illegal is illegal.
I am with Paula D: Old men attracted to young teenage girls have something wrong with them.
“But he still loved her anyway”
He never ‘loved’ her. He lusted after her while loving himself. No wonder your worldview is so warped. She was 12 FFS. No man who has sex with a 12-year-old ‘loves’ anyone but himself. At the end of the book, in a moment of clarity, he hears children playing and regrets that Lolita is not among them, i.e. he regrets that because of him, she had her childhood stolen.
And ephebophilia isn’t ‘liking girls’, it is having ‘girls’ as your primary sexual interest, as opposed to grown women.
I presume all the men who would agree with you wouldn’t find anything untoward in Joe Biden sniffing around their 15-year-old daughter.
Yes, Mary. I forgot to say that part of my distress was that I thought 16 y.o. boys were very attractive, but had no interest in 40 y.o. men.
So I was hoping that I would outgrow that, which I did.
Grown men trying to justify lusting after teenaged girls as ”biology” don’t cut it.
Green Alba, right on!. You nailed it! (No pun intended).
@ Wizard of the Saddle:
In Missouri, the laws governing the age of consent, as it applies to statutory rape, are more flexible and less “arbitrary.”
The Romeo and Juliet Law states that if contact is consensual and one person is between 14 and 17 years of age, and the other is no more than four years older, there was no crime.
If the victim is under 14 years of age, it is a Class A felony, and sentencing requirements are more severe if the victim was under 12 years of age.
Second-degree statutory rape is when the victim is under 17 and the perp is 21 or older.
So in Missouri, if a guy is 20, he can have sex with a 16-year-old girl. If a guy is 19, he can have sex with a 15-year-old girl. If he is 18, he can have sex with a 14-year-old girl. If he is 21 or older, he only commits statutory rape if the girl is under 18.
In Missouri, a girl may marry at the age of 15, with her parents’ consent. Interestingly, Massachusetts allows girls to marry at 12 years old if their parents agree, and some states have no age requirement. The age at which a girl can marry is a separate issue from statutory rape.
You can argue that the law is “at war with nature” in this regard, but, if you think about it, the law is “at war with nature” in regard to just about everything else, too.
How could you reasonably expect Sam Brinton to resist jacking that $2,325 Vera Bradley suitcase from the airport carousel?
Sure, nature gives us “the ability to procreate years before we have the maturity necessary to do so responsibly,” but she also gives us the desire for all kinds of other things that we are not allowed by law to take. Sometimes nature even gives us the desire to shoot someone in the face–which the law generally forbids.
It sounds to me that you are making that argument on behalf of men that is so often ascribed to women: Men have no agency when it comes to sex, so they can’t be held responsible for their own actions.
The ladies think women should be completely invisible to men until they turn 18 and then can magically become attractive – but not one minute before the hour strikes. Makes as much sense as the mask ritual at restaurants.
Many women never feel much sexual desire at all. A few never feel anything. So the mentality stemming from this incapacity may explain some of the above. Who can forget William Blake’s mockery of such sterile virtue! Or Crowley’s. A sexuality that can be so easily controlled is simply a weak or non-existent one. But more likely, it’s the common shrieking resentment towards beautiful young women. The Snow White/Evil Queen dynamic. Typically they take it out on men the most. They do a lot about everything.
Alba, Humbert Humbert loved her in a mature way at the very end of the book. Proof? She was no longer his sexual ideal but it just didn’t matter to him any more.
Just because he realised he was a prick doesn’ t mean he ‘loved’ her. Men like that aren’t capable of love, except for themselves.
So, we’ve gone from ‘thirteen is a bit young’ to women (sorry, ‘the ladies’, as we mustn’t miss an opportunity to diminish) who think men shouldn’t be perving over 13-year-olds are of sterile virtue and are basically asexual.
Like I said, let Joe Biden sniff around your 13-year-old daughters. You haven’t got one, of course, have you? Too much sterile virtue, doubtless.
@ Jaros and ef above,
Yes, both of my aunts on my mom’s side – both born in the 1930’s – were married and pumping out the youngn’s as soon as they were able; one at 15 (six kids) and one at 17 (4 kids), I believe. That was the norm in the mid-west in the first half of 20th century, as long as the girls weren’t promiscuous, which was the only real sin. It was just a matter of survival for most, as getting by on the farm you raised your own help. None of that changed until the late 1960’s, when women increasingly moved to the cities and started working – as my mom did – and the family farm began its descent to extinction.
In contrast, girls now (especially here locally) are STILL getting pregnant at 14, 15, or 16 (basically as soon as they are able), out of wedlock, and for no other reason than they wanted to and were able to. I see the bio’s of all the new recruits we on-board all the time (they publish them for everyone to see), and it’s exceedingly rare for any of the young women 18-22 years old NOT to have multiple kids already, whether they’re married or not.
So yes, good old fashioned productive hetero sex is alive and well, in spite of all rumors to the contrary. Apparently its only after the fact in their twenties and thirties that the youngsters get all these other twisted ideas in their heads, possibly when they realize that being saddled with kids at such an early age ain’t all that it’s cracked up to be.
Women of the CFN.
Permit me a final observation.
Many of you opine that men who have “lust in their hearts” for young women…lets call them “trans-menstrual” women, are perverted. No men on the site, however, agree. This “perversion” has been more than evident throughout human history…alot. The issue is not lusting, but rather, acting, upon one’s lust.
Human history does not support your allegations
Men, when honest, do not support your allegations.
I can only suggest that your view of how men think, and why, is as incorrect as men’s perspective as to how women think.
“Perverse”? No, just a weakness of character, a lack of discipline…the ultimate failure of the human male..
And, I offer this as proof.
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/6531e7f3-38ac-4bc4-8154-04a5b1231cc6
The science is settled.
Alba: Reread the book. You’re getting it wrong. It was a beautiful moment in a non-beautiful life.
In your anger, you’re conflating ephebophilia and pedophilia, trying to pin the latter on me I suppose. Reread Paula’s flawed posts for a clue.
Mary: Illegal is illegal. Stupidest comment ever. As if the law is always right. As it was right about prohibition or as if it would be right if it mandates the covid shots.
@Jarek
At no point did I accuse anyone of paedophilia, not even a repulsive character in a novel. And I certainly didn’t accuse you of it, so keep your dishonest straw man out of the discussion. I am perfectly aware of the meanings of all three categories described above and have been since I took the trouble to check them out on the WHO website more than a dozen years ago for purposes to do with my work. Nothing I said suggested I don’t know the difference, so quit lying.
What I did was to invite anyone who agrees with you (since you do not have the family experience to consider the scenario yourself) to consider Joe Biden sniffing around their young teenage daughter. If those who undertake this thought experiment find such a vision not at all creepy, then all that women need to do is bear that thought in mind.
Women who really need to keep that thought in mind would include widows and divorcees with teenage children in their care who might be considering a serious romantic relationship with a man. I once happened quite accidentally on a discussion thread consisting of men in relationships with women with daughters – said men were discussing their own covert lusting after those daughters. One even encouraged another man to ‘go for it’ as it was entirely acceptable for him to fuck his partner’s daughter while in a relationship with her.
Oh, and don’t dare do you usual projection/gaslighting by suggesting I am or was ‘angry’. I have no emotional investment whatsoever in the degree of your arousal by young teenage girls. Your invention of my supposed anger is yet another dishonest attempt to discredit what I said. Shame on you.
” am with Paula D: Old men attracted to young teenage girls have something wrong with them.”
No, it is quite natural. There is “something wrong with them” only if they act on that attraction.
Or show it in any way—which is intensely uncomfortable for the girl. Believe me, I know. Especially if the man is in a position of authority over the girl. Such as a headmaster.
We all have to repress or control all kinds of urges or reactions.
As for “old men,” (and old women), they still have sexual urges, even if even thinking about that fact disgusts younger people.
Well, elysian, I did point out that fetishes are a male thing.
Obviously I don’t speak for all women, but I am a female who lusted after teenaged boys when I was a teenager and then outgrew it. I’m not saying I outgrew lust, I just feel it more appropriately for men around my own age, not pubescent males.
Why don’t men mature like that? I don’t know, but I think it is a flaw.
Like Alba says, watching Biden paw and sniff girls turns my stomach, no matter how normal men may think it is.
I’m glad that most men keep it to themselves and behave correctly. It’s best that people don’t know the evil that lurks in the hearts of men, if we are to have a civilization.
Vlad, your “…smoking…” comment led me to recall a similar quote by the eminently quotable Mark Twain:
“Having been cruelly deprived of the pleasure of smoking cigars up to the age of seven, I have made up for it by never ceasing to smoke them since.”
(A cigar-lover from the age of 16, in 1957, when my Air Force major dad started me off)
Paula doesn’t even know the basics of this business. She expects men to have the same sexuality as women. Men are attracted to bodies and the “energy” or manner of the person. Then to the character.
Women vice versa for the most part. To put it most bluntly and perhaps a bit uncharitably for some: Sex objects (men) vs Success objects (women).
Again, meditate on the absurdity of Paula calling being attracted to a beautiful female body a “fetish”. Think she can be trusted about the Russian Revolution or Covid?
Speedy: What did Kipling say? A woman is just a woman, but a cigar is a smoke. Something like that. Much to think about there.
You know, one thought that has crossed my mind lately is that we have all been conditioned to believe that the sex urge is not controllable, and that it is unreasonable to expect anyone to exercise restraint.
We live in a highly sexualized society. The assumption seems to be that things like porn or promiscuity are okay, simply because no one has any personal agency when it comes to sex–that self-control or restraint are futile, and that the experience of sexual desire is the same thing as having a piano dropped on your head.
It seems to me that this is probably not true. Obviously the sex urge is very strong, but past societies conditioned people to embrace sexual modesty.
Also, in a community with any kind of social cohesiveness, men would not be much inclined to take a sexual interest in their neighbor’s 13-year-old daughter, simply because she is the daughter of parents who are your friends and neighbors and whose opinion you value. You would not do anything, or even entertain thoughts of doing anything, that would cause them to disrespect you. Going around lusting after your friends’ kids–or their sisters, wives, or mothers–would, to a reasonable person in a reasonable and decent society, be clearly seen as contemptible. So you would not only avoid thinking in that way, but you would also expect that your neighbors would have an equal respect for your daughter, sister, wife, and mother.
Where men think it’s okay to lust after other people’s kids, I think this is an indication of social collapse. The, “Oh gee, I’m a guy and can’t help myself,” argument is an indication of moral failure. I think it’s pretty clear, from what some are saying here, that the guys do not even feel an obligation to restrain such thoughts and would not even consider trying to.
@MaryQueen—
I have to wonder at the largest cohort being single, military-age men who are given phones and whisked to the Empire’s interior outposts to ‘disappear’ into the cultural fabric.
But for how long?
Europe’s have been assimilated into their own cultural ghettos as their reproduction rate is in the area of 5 per as opposed to 2 for the locals. Not saying, just saying.
There is a healthy distinction to be made between curiosity and concern vs paranoid chauvinism and outright racism. I’ve thought about it enough to honestly include myself in the former.
What’s your point…..?
I can’t figure out what this idiot is saying at all.
Women are massively involved, even as he said.
Since you hate women and have absolutely no knowledge about feminism, I’ll just be ignoring your ‘input’ on the subject. As I do most other topics.
Lots of wisdom anent Feminism in today’s piece, eh?
LOL! Q. Alert: there’s that “anent” again.
Dis, he imagines it makes him sound smart and unique, I am guessing.
I could be wrong.
It’s a funny quirk.
It’s a real word, volks. One that deserves to be brought back – even against Q’s wishes.
Think too, that the end result of the reorganization of society post Long Emergency will be a technical feudalism as a majority of the population will be involved in growing enough food to feed everyone.
“Fallow” is the new in word in Farmville Real. Holland. New Zealand. Canada too is stirring woke green under Le Turdough with hefty carbon taxes and a cutback on fertilizer manufacture and the mining of potash.
Does anyone know what farmer Gates intends to grow? If anything at all?
Too much points to too little—in a big way.
Soylent Green.
Logically, the pedophilia need not have been part of it, but in fact it is. Either as a tactic to soften us up, or just because so many of them are into it.
off topic,
you might enjoy the book and utube documentary,
‘CAVE IN THE SNOW’.
actually, it was a hut but that doesnt sound as romantic.
Does “pretty disappointing” refer to allergy to conspiracy theories?
I have a label for that:
conspiracy denier.
Which I am not. The term “theory” and “conspiracy” have both been deliberately degraded to prevent and preempt analytical, solution -oriented thinking.
Hypothesis precedes theory.
For instance, I hypothesize that Sam Bankman-Fried and his pals conspired to commit fraud. There is now enough evidence to convert this hypothesis to a theory.
I hypothesize that Big Pharma companies, the WHO, Gates and Wellcome Foundations, and others conspired to roll out vicious vaxxes. There is enough evidence to convert this hypothesis to a theory.
Throughout history so many activities of ruling elites have been kept secret from the Great Unwashed—it is only fairly recenty that the latter have had a chance to dig up some of the skeletons. to
The current “Four Fuckeries” situation (Iove that phrase!) seems to be a result—or symptom—of so many different types of interlocking and layered conspiracies —ongoing secret coordinated criminal activities— that that one hardly knows where to begin to unravel them.
Are we looking at competing agendas and hence groups conducting various operations sub rosa that are in effect competing conspiracies? The Mad magazine “Spy vs. Spy” image seems apt.
Or, is there an “ur-conspiracy”? An Ur-Cabal that is ultimately in charge of writing, producing, and directing this shit show whose shadows we perceive on the scrim?
We all know that JHK tends to optimism and a belief in eventual justice.
But his open mind allows him to note and document the fact that other people are more pessimistic and willing to believe the worst of the ruling class.
I have no problem with that.
This is a “reply” to my post, or was it intended for elsewhere?
Well, I thought it was. It’s possible I misinterpreted what you were saying.
I say what moves it past competing conspiracies (gangster operations) and an Ur-Cabal is that we are seeing an emegent Culture.
Said culture has its owl dialect, allowances, eccentricities, and signals. Its members need no direction; schooling like fish, the shoal still swims toward its own heading.
This culture and its incentives exist in a rarified environment. What is fit there is not fit elsewhere.
The top tier is becoming the Cloud People. The Dirt People are rightfully apprehensive, as the Clouds see the Dirts as filthy, stupid animals, caring not for the lifestock upon whom they feed.
It’s too bad ole Tom Clancy is dead. He would have had a field day writing a novel with the WEF transhumanists as the central villains.
Try reading Breitbart comments if you doubt the Kunstler’s moderate approach.
Softly, softly, catchee monkey.
Most are not ready to know what we know on this side of the great divide. James is drawing them to the bridge.
America and it would appear the world at large have a sanity issue.
We can see it all around us almost every day.
The Democrats have cobbled together a platform of misfit toys and weirdos and then claim Conservatives are the crazy ones.
It’s in what passes for news.
It’s literally on this very blog in the form of progressive nonsense spewed as normal.
We see Joe Biden the demented puppet disgorge nonsense at every speaking event.
Knockout games, people getting pushed in front of trains for no reason, crazy people driving cars into crowds, people getting hacked to bits and the progressive prize of mass shooter events.
Homeless people all over, twenty-dollar hamburgers six-dollar coffees and fifty-thousand-dollar Toyota trucks.
Thinking about a cabin in the woods high on top of some mountain in the middle of nowheresville.
these cycles come and go thruout history—the difference today nato,usa are insane and maybe by april next year the nukes will fly and not much will mattter anymore–
Conservatives are crazy, too, they just are not in power at the moment.
Nope neocons are crazy.
Red good, blue bad, is a silly mindset.
I tend to think we have four political parties right now. Two blue and two red. They seem to be fighting for power within the big picture, and there is a cross-over to sweeten the pot.
I lived overseas for many years. We Americans tend to think of white hats and black hats in politics. Other countries might see it as everyone has an agenda, and there are agendas I agree with or disagree with. I am not sure they think in such left versus right or good versus bad or even globalist or nationalist. I had one Indian man tell me that he wanted a good education for his kids, clean water, decent housing, enough food for his family, and a job that paid him enough to take care of his family. He said, I don’t care which party gives it to me, but I care that I get it.
The problem is believing either party gives us anything but grief.
“Red good, blue bad” sounds like a non sequitur after “Neocons are crazy,” since the point of the latter seems to be call out a subset of “red.”
In the mental health and all forms of social service, be it public or private, the losers and the sick are called “clients”. They are the cash cow and are to be treated well so they give milk. And politically, they are the power base. They’re actually allowed to vote! How crazy is that?
So of course the Democrats want more and more clients, just like any other industry.
Me and you both, brother!
I can’t wait to go hole up in my cabin while the rest of the world keeps spiraling down the drain.
Wow, that about sums it up.
It is very hard to understand that the Liberal half of this country wants things this way, it is their program to promote their insanity. It is not just the PTB that are the guilty parties here, it is the sloth of the millions of gimme folks that are willing to give up their liberty and individuality in reaction to the lies and false gods and promises of the Deep State. The inevitability of The Long Emergency is becoming more obvious now and a preview may be coming with the rail strike.
One comment about the preppers that are trying to anticipate the end of oil and civilization. There is not way around what is coming. The population stayed small for a million years before the hockey stick happened. It happened because of oil, period. Mankind has squandered his primary energy resource and the population will follow.
BTW, the first to go will be the gimme Liberals, cities especially, as their access to resources dries up. Just desserts!
And Phoenix, AZ?
If they do not figure out a new source of water, Dis, Phoenix will lead the pack.
Along with the rest of the West that currently has way too many people living here.
We’ll just have to migrate up to Jim’s neck of the woods and hang out! I’m sure he’ll love that!
70 inches of snow in Buffalo. check the news.
True, but he’s on the other side of the state. Don’t know how much they got over there, but not nearly as much. Even around Buffalo it was highly localized.
Then comes the golden hordes. the starving billions are not going to stay in the cities. the drive till they run out of gas and then become the new locust. here’s to hoping they will eat all the plastic first, as that is the closest facsimile to what they are used to in the stores………
They’ll run out of gas pretty fast in the traffic leaving the cities.
There are too many people and they will be unable to zip out as if the cities had a manageable population.
It’ll be all Stop and no Go traffic. Pure gridlock
Thankfully, trillions of 5.56 NATO rounds have been prudently purchased and stored by sensible citizens who are not so sanguine as to believe that the government will deal with the problem effectively.
When the Golden (Blue actually) Horde arrives it will get a warm reception. Just not the kind they were hoping for.
They won’t leave the cities.
They will be offered UBI.
Give up all your rights for basic income and forced jabs, etc.
The hockey stick didn’t happen. The guy that Mann sued for calling his hockey stick fraudulent eventually won his countersuit.
You would not know that from reading the MSM.
Speaking of the media, I don’t know if it has been brought up here before in another context, but the FTX case has brought out an interesting practice of some media. Small wonder they want this major story hushed up as fast as possible:
How many publications did SBF bribe?
On second reading, “bribe” may be a strong word. What I really meant is “shower with money so as to have no influence whatsoever on their editorial decisions and coverage.”
https://twitter.com/DavidSacks/status/1593724962195607553?s=20&t=N45iMoYj_aQokoAo442EQw
It seems to me most of the actual reporting on this story is taking place on Twitter.
I’m surprised this has been left up and intact on EeewToob. Quite comprehensive:
hxxps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_7_BNl7sI4&list=TLPQMjgxMTIwMjJrnLgHjZ1SmA&index=2
“The guy that Mann sued for calling his hockey stick fraudulent eventually won his countersuit.”
The great Mark Steyn.
Steyn also (over a decade ago) won a lawsuit against the corrupt and evil Canadian Human Rights Commission, which eliminated the notorious Section 13 clause from quasi-legal status.
Section 13: That it was illegal to say anything that would offend anyone. It took no more than one person to be “offended” to have you brought to trial.
Beat me to it. Mark Steyn is a fantastic political commentator and author. He really took one for the team with that years long lawsuit and I was thrilled that he won. Rush Limbaugh really stood by him through it all.
Lets see, they already have a jump on population reduction with the vax, they told us how they are more or less going to screw us out of everything ala the great reset and agenda 2030, most of the Vatican museum is now devoted to the devil instead of Jesus, Epstein didn’t kill himself. Hmmm, if it walks like a duck, talks like a.. well, I’m pretty sure this is a f****ng duck….Brainwashed sheep + Evil intentions paid for by whoever controls the money equals the shit we’re in now. Start growing your own food or your choices will be soylent green or crickets..it would be funny if it wasn’t so sad……Time to put on the armor of god.
I disagree with Mr Kunstler when this all began. The JFK murder was the official kickoff of the game. Vietnam, Iraq, the instillation of Obama from out of nowhere etc.etc. It was all part of the psychopathic takeover, along with the permanent lobby class in DC and the total corruption of the mainstream media. The current situation is just part of the continuum of our collapse. The dependence on our “ credit score” was the kickoff to the coming “ social credit score.”Ike was the last president that had a conscience of sorts. Collapse starts slowly and only in retrospect do we see the obvious signs. I do give great credit to Mr Kunstler. His books written in the last twenty five years gave us ample warning. He was and is the canary in the coal mine. He was one of a very few who saw BIG trouble down the road long before most of us picked our heads up to see and listen.
Yes, this entire fuckery has been in the works for decades.
I’d argue around WWI. That’s when all the planning started. The medical industrial complex was built, soon after they started the bioweapons programs and eugenics, mind-control & programming. Then TV came along and really sped things up.
Rockefellers and Milner’s Roundtable, the Roundtable being the executors of Cecil Rhodes’ vast fortune and his dream of the British empire continuing forward beginning with the covert re-annexation of the North American colonies. (Canada remains under the sway of the House of Windsor/King Charles—an ultra WEFer.)
And consider the exceptionally egregious brutality expressed in Australia during the recent ‘bug.’ And New Zealand’s PM Jacinda Ardern, a Blair protegé, and high muckety-muck along with Canada’s little Ms Nazi Chrystia Freeland, granddaughter of Ukrainian Nazi propagandist Mychal Chomiak a veteran of the CIA’s ratlines into North America along with so many other Ukie Nazis—none of whom were seated in judgment at Nuremberg in spite of their viciousness that appalled even the German SS Einzatgruppen.
The Council on Foreign Relations was established as the western arm of Milner’s Roundtable. The CIA neé OSS was established by the Brits according to their template. MI-5 & 6 offices were located in Rockefeller Center throughout WW II.
Oh, and about so many of the U.S. recipients of Rhodes Scholarships…
Refer to Carroll Quigley’s “Tragedy and Hope” and “The Anglo-American Establishment.”
thanks
Thanks indeed.
JFK
WW1
Roundtables
You CFNers are fantastic.
James has created a treasure beyond price.
Oh man. I just finished Dave 0907’s comment, I had posted in haste.
Tremendous. Tremendous.
Accolades must accrue: this one knows.
I see the CIA and the MI5 as modern versions of the joint-stock East India Companies, with the same owners.
Further: “The CIA neé OSS was established by the Brits according to their template.”
Few know that OSS/CIA propaganda narratives were first designed by a uniquely gifted British writer.
Warning to would-be dissidents:
The OSS was created to hunt down “werewolves,” German patriots fighting back against the ravaging of their nation by the monstrous victors.
Further still: yet, as they have always done, those who seduced the Roundtables with dazzling ambitions stole the cream for themselves.
Cecil Rhodes, himself, ended up a minority interest in the very country that bore his name.
That the Horse, once ridden, is cast aside, ever escapes their protégés.
The Aryan Benjamites were thus used, as janissaries like Klaus Schwab will be as well.
The Plan began in Babylon thousands of years ago, among the Diaspora. That’s why Christ utterly condemned the Pharisee sect as demonic.
Esau was owed a century to show the good works required for Sonship. The Birthright and the Rulership will now be given to One people.
One is reminded of the “American Century”.
Whew.
The covid19 fuckery was obviously a sham. There is no Frankenstein virus at all and there never was a pandemic. What Fauci et al released was the idea of a killer plague virus which cannot be isolated and of which there exists no specimen for the purposes of testing and vaccine production.
No such disease exists. The “vaccine” is the bioweapon.
millions dead from med.
I think it is Karen Kingston (and probably others) who is calling for a stop to using ‘vaccine’ , instead refer to what is being injected as ‘bioweapon’. For those unfamiliar, she has the talent to explain the seeming obscure research surrounding the bioweapon as written by the Pharma companies. Writes on Substack.
Coquin de Chien, writing on Substack, wants ‘vaccine’ to be a synonym for ‘poison’. His research on the travesty called MA DPH Covid records is worth the reads. He turns out excellent research with charts and #’s.
Both back up what they write with published source material.
EdD,
Dude… the virus is a real thing and it carries evil.
I was sick from it in July this year and it left me with the myocarditis. I did not take any of the so-called “vaccines”.
I’ve never encountered a virus that was so tricky in my body. It moved around in and affected different parts of my body as the body fought it back.
I am convinced that the thing is an unnaturally-occurring chimera. Just because it hasn’t messed with you yet is not proof that it doesn’t exist
gain of function flu?
Yes, I had it (according to antigen test), and it was bad. But not as bad a the bad flu I had in 2017.
I have mentioned this previously here, but mention it again in the context of Zhao’s comment.
The 2017 thing went everywhere, too. Headache (which I very rarely get), throat, nose, gut, extreme fatigue. Took me even longer to recover from that than from the coof (if that is what it is).
So in my experience the coof is basically no different from a serious flu.
Damn straight it’s a gain-of-function bioweapon.
It was engineered to attach to human ACE receptors.
Most people that get it manage to take care of it in their respiratory tract, which has its own very capable immune functions.
But if it manages to get out and into general circulation it can affect any number of organs and systems in the body, because we have ACE receptors in most of our systems.
Don’t think that because most people manage to overcome it that it wasn’t intended to destroy human bodies, It was.
But the human body has an immune system that evolved over millions of years to protect us from pathogens.
It’s the mad scientists funded by evil billionaires vs the amazing human body.
So far we’re winning, but the hundreds of bioweapons research labs remain open and functioning, with tens of thousands of mad scientists hard at work trying to find a pathogen that we can’t fight off.
Those who fall for the “there is no bioweapon virus” are basically stooges of Fauci, enabling the continuation of the illegal bioweapon labs by babbling on about terrain and denying well known facts about viruses.
Fauci useful idiots.
The Vax is the bioweapon. Don’t conflate it with the virus – if any. The virus isn’t very dangerous.
Begone, Fauci stooge!
Paula thinks the virus is killing all these people? Extraordinary!
It’s all a hoax until the day you become infected.
The Four Fuckeries transgress rational explanation to such an extent that one is obliged to acknowledge the existence of Mass Formation Psychosis. In The Crowd and the Psychology of Revolution Gustave le Bon’s account of the French Revolution certainly rivals Jim’s look at the mystifying demise of the Aztecs.
Another side of the equation we are looking at today was illustrated by the Holocaust, in which thousands of able-bodied captives in ghettos and death camps acquiesced to being held captive by relative handfuls of guards and enforcers. If a small percentage of those destined to die had swarmed the guards thousands might have been able to escape their fate.
I can imagine future historians coming to a similar conclusion about our passivity, as we continue to be herded toward whatever dismal scenario turns out to be the grand plan of the Corporate State.
That, Zoltar, strikes me as one explanation for the ongoing fierce hatred of the Zionists for Germans (among others). The fact that they themselves did not rise up, preferring to continue to protest that some mistake has been made … they are not criminals … they are indeed ‘Good Germans’ …
Nevertheless one must recognize that the inmates of the camps were mostly ordinary citizens, going about their business, so they’d be no match for ruthless, armed guards. By the time they realized what the camps were really about, they were under lock and key, looking down barrels. No matter how brave you are, it’s hard to organize and fight back in such circumstances.
The feminists he refers to (the Clinton type) are not really feminists. They are establishment hacks, and couldn’t care less about women in general. They have lost all semblance of what it means to be female. I’ll agree that James gets it re: ‘having it all.’ I don’t think it’s possible to adequately raise children and be an aggressive career woman. One should pick between the two. And instead of blaming women for that situation, please do look at the economic modeling that was forced on our culture. Women were put to work because it became profitable for the PTB. Not because we demanded it. Since when do women get what they demand? Only when it serves the ruling class.
Real feminists oppose Wokeism. I should know, I have worked with them for over 6 years trying to keep kids from being maimed and sterilized. Big pharma fuels the movement, mostly made up of men. I would suggest looking deeper into this. The ‘feminists’ that James describes are also pro-‘sex work’ and putting violent men into women’s prisons. Most women are not down with that, feminist or not.
The left has ruined another term: Feminism. As they have liberalism, progressivism, and more. Don’t fall for it.
True feminists are pro-family, pro-child rearing, and stand up for children first. I don’t see any other group doing that at present, except for some conservatives.
Mary
Disagree with your statement that women did not demand it. The feminist movement demanded it.
A cadre of women in the 60s and 70s did demand it, feminism hit its peak in the early 80s with the ERA attempt.
Women lost their role during the 20th century, their role of supporting the homestead and raising kids. All the labor saving devices developed for them took away their raison d’etre. Even the creation of the supermarket, the first big box, removed a part a the women’s role, the hunt for food.
Anyway a group of women, Bella Abzug and Gloria Steinhem come to mind did lead a revolution promoting women to work outside the home.
As JHK described, as more and more women did go to work, the economy adjusted to having two incomes for a middle class lifestyle. Women going to work increased as a result.
One of the attributes of the loss of energy in the future may be the need for women to retake their place running the homestead.
Time will tell.
The feminist movement had no power. They were given ‘power’ in the form of being forced to work AND raise kids. You have fallen for the propaganda.
You also don’t understand the women’s movements or feminism. I find it very interesting that the first ones to bray about this are men who know nothing about it.
I can bring home the bacon…
Fry it up in a pan,
And never never let you for-get you’re a man!
****
Hey! Women do 80%, men do 20%, sounds fair to me! Lions had this one figured out a looong time ago.
Women never got what we demanded, unless it was in the establishment’s best interests. Just like any other movement.
Gloria Steinem did women no favors. And, she was a CIA asset. Are you getting it, yet?
Oh man. I have to give MaryQ back those 2 points for “in the establishment’s best interests”, and give 2 more for “Gloria Steinem, CIA asset.”
Here is Feminism 101: Women have no moral agency. They’re always victims. Who is to blame? MEN!
I can respect a career woman who not only forgoes children or marriage, but also forgoes this kind of toxic resentment. They are rare.
Every time a woman has told me that she is a feminist and “independent”, it has meant that she abides by no code of responsibility while expecting that the man (it has been me) be eternally responsible for her.
What is your definition of no code of responsibility?
What you are calling the ”feminist movement” was actually a media creation, suiting the needs of the ruling class.
During WW2 women provided labor for almost every industry. After WW2 they went back to birthing and nurturing babies and children.
Our ruling overlords prefer more labor (hence the open borders and H1B visas today). More labor power=cheaper wages.
So they manufactured, through the media and paid shills like Gloria Steinem, a “women’s liberation movement”.
And women fell for it. Who wouldn’t want to be liberated? And the owners then got 2 workers for the price of 1.57, because “liberation”.
And the children suffered.
But sure, John, keep believing that it was an organic movement that sprang up, fully formed, out of Zeus’s forehead, and that the role of the media was simply to document this amazing uprising.
Yeah, right.
Paula, well said.
The story with open borders is similar: the system craves cheap labor. More workers = less pay.
The third wave is robots and AI.
Both you seem to lump all women into one group.
And ignore the class aspect.
Women have always worked.
It just depends on where you look.
And work for women has always been a double-edged sword: bringing independence to many and slavery to many others.
Even in the late feudal era, I have read that the Enclosures in England were very bad for women becuase they (the Encs) cut women off from sources of food, wood, etc, that they had enjoyed. And this was a negative for peasant women of that day.
Context!!
These grand sweeping statements about “women” might actually be considered a type of misygyny. They are totally ulnrealistic and quite useless.
Freud: “What do women want?”
Not you, for starters.
The original dual sins of racisms and sexisms in the US were because of those dastardly Irish.
Those friggin’ furrin hordes wuz taking all our women’s factory jobs!
If the fur seal hunt is stopped, what will all those Canuck savages do for work?
It’s not right!
John- I wouldn’t say the economy “adjusted” for two incomes. The rise of massive government required women to start working to pay the overhead. The effect on families has been a disaster. Government is always antisocial.
“the creation of the supermarket, the first big box, removed a part a the women’s role, the hunt for food.”
The Gatherers have always provided most of the food base, with the Hunters bringing valuable protein.
No more daily trips to the fish market!
Where a girl could get out, meet other gals, do something important and essential, while fraternizing, exchanging tips and news as women have always done.
That picture of an exhausted mom pushing a stroller with her small kids while contemplating the chores ahead in her 90+ hour workweek.
Alone. The modern system left them stranded.
I chatted with a gal working the graveyard shift- her husband was with the kids at night, she with them by day so he could go to his job.
This system is so inhumane.
I want a country that does only one thing: that supports the safe formation of white families.
The very idea of White families enrages the Tribe and the Feminist Tribe.
They want infinity “women and children” with men worked to death to pay alimony.
Here’s a link that explains the trafficking issue here in the US anyway (it’s much worse in some other countries) and its origins:
https://thewashingtonstandard.com/the-clintons-laura-silsby-haiti-amber-alerts-human-trafficking/
I thought it very regretful that a “strain” of feminism (as Jim puts it) adopted the corporate male paradigm as being the way to go.
While second wave feminism was largely about employment, it was never meant to elevate the workplace over hearth and home.
Yes. The strain (3d wave) feminism is the one I reject. That one is built around “believe all women” (no matter if they are liars or not, and of course only liberal women need be believed); and is anti-male.
Second wave feminism is very different.
A speaker at my extremely conservative church was discussing third wave feminism and the riot grrrl movement in particular, and he made an interesting point from his perspective; that these women were singing about things that they did not get from the men in their lives.
I remember this, started seeing this Riot grrl thing in very late 90s. It seemed attached to the whole punk rock resurgence at the time, and the womens roller-derby craze. I attended a roller derby event…. the faux violence and strange, fanatical support for such a ridiculous “sport” gave me my first thoughts that something was really off with the zeitgeist.
@Beryl and Mary — I think women were sold a bill of goods back in the 70s and 80s that it was possible to “have it all” like we were some perpetual motion machine. And that “kids are resilient so don’t worry so much about them.” And the road we were encouraged to trod was the corporate treadmill that has claimed the lives of many men.
This third wave of so-called feminism seems to me to be based on little more than unquenchable resentment and it’s dehumanized the women who’ve bought into it.
Agree, it’s destructive to families, women and children, not to mention society as a whole.
She won’t mention men. It’s beneath her dignity as a radical feminist.
Never trust the whole “women and children” meme. They’ve coopted it for their own objectives.
Some men (I won’t say who) continue to push the idea that women “belong” in the home.
What these men think or what women want is in a sense neither here nor there, because circumstances, including being abandoned by their men or losing them to battles and other causes of death, have always required a very large fraction of women to shoulder the whole burden of raising families on their own: both “home making” and bringing home the bacon.
That is why many children, at least in earlier decades and centuries, grew up quickly, with girls helping Mother manage the house the younger children, and boys manning up to defend their mothers and siblings and bring in extra money by going out to work as adolescnets. Many girls, too, had to give up dreams they had fr education or some other avenue to a better station in life in order to help out their families left in destitution by AWOL or dead dads. Others felt obliged to marry men they didn’t like just to provide some support for their families of origin.
Please.
Get real.
Truly, men should truly confine their theorizing and prescriptions to the role and responsibilities of their own sex: MEN.
Well said, Islander.
“Education”. “Better station in life”. “Dad dads”. It’s all here. Feel the hate.
Re “Feel the hate.”
Yes, it is palpable. You are overflowing with bile and hatred of women.
Which is why you are such a disturbing presence on this blog.
My husband and I used to joke about “Quality time”.
That was the narrative they pushed heavily, that it didn’t matter how much time you spent with your children, as long as the minutes you did spend were “quality time”.
So you could dump your infant in a baby concentration camp all day, it didn’t matter.
Whatever they experienced for 23 hours was inconsequential to them. It was only the hour that you spent with them that counted.
That was a ridiculous narrative, but it was very widely disseminated and I have no doubt that people fell for it the way they fall for every other narrative they are fed.
I remember that well and the whole smarmy team of “experts” lined up behind it — child psychologists, pediatricians and their frequent appearances on talk shows. We, as human beings, will believe anything that soothes our worries and justifies our actions. I certainly fell for it and now put little faith in the so-called experts until I’ve done research myself and decided who sounds honest and why.
Exactly, much like the “experts” now telling us about public health.
It’s just that with the internet and social media, we can cross-check their bullshit and it’s harder for them to prevail.
Hence: the censorship and bannings.
SW, do not even get me started on Dr. Spock. YICK!!
No, Doc Spock was right.
In 1895 and 1925, two childless “experts” on the order of that bufoonish Okie fraud, “Dr.” Dobson, recommended that children must never be touched with kindness, only severely punished at the slightest pretext. Infants in the orphanages they ran were dying of “miasma,” that is, dying from literally not being touched or held.
Dr. Spock, (of Auschwitz!), only once, in his first 1950 edition, recommended that one need not beat children whenever they so much as blink. That was withdrawn in future editions.
The hellfire preacher types just about lost their sh*t in denouncing this scion of Satan, who told mothers to trust their instincts above the crackpots and quacks.
Agree Alzaebo, Dr. Spock was attacked by our rulers, led by that psychotic Beat Your Child For Jesus Dobson, mostly for his opposition to the Vietnam war, but they seized upon his Be Kind To Your Children stance as the way to attack him.
Dr. Spock’s book was great. You could look up any symptom your child had and know what childhood disease they had. It probably save a whole lot of doctor visits.
One thing that I remember to this day, and it helped me reject the stupid advice Fauci et. al. were giving, (causing the empty shelves of Lysol and bleach in March 2020) about “fomites”, was Dr. Spock saying that parents did not have to bleach the plates their babies used because “germs do no grow on clean, dry surfaces”.
See why they hate him?
Mary, lost in nowhere land. Why does she hate the gentle Dr Spock? Because of her dark fantasies? Because Women are life. Men are death?
“I’m not wholly on-board with believing any of this; just sayin’ it’s all ‘out there’ and, crazy as it sounds, it is hard to explain.”
This struck me particularly, because there is so much going on now that points in a direction normal people hesitate to consider or to follow. It’s just too grotesque, too outré, and admitting that it is what it looks like leaves us open to accusations of madness. Yet, madness is all around us.
How to look at the now notorious Balenciaga advertisement for child sexual abuse and pretend that it’s not saying what it clearly is saying? It’s no accident, nor are the many “clues” scattered all over it amid the pathetic children clutching sexualized toys. It could not be any more blatant, and if it isn’t outright Satanic, just what is it? And why is it plainly part of an ongoing plan that’s being implemented everywhere in our culture?
When you consider these separate things together – sexualizing young children in school, secret “clubs” that parents are not to know about, drag queen story hours, sexualized ads, summer sex camps for kids, the sick “art” that “decorates” the homes of people like the Podestas . . . if this is not a conspiracy, what can we call it?
Rebellion against the human norms of all cultures. Against all religious dictates and even the secular morality that is still influenced by them. Satan is the original rebel. It is thus Satanism, whether they know it or not – even if Satan doesn’t exist as such.
Thanks. And ayup.
I think its more of a betrayal, what started as supporting gay marriage, moved to the inclusion of bisexuals and queers, which wasn’t much of a jump, but then the whole movement suddenly had to triumph transexuals, now they’re sprinkling in pedophilia.
The same thing is happening with greens, just weeks ago the more radicalized were glueing themselves to famous works of art, but this week they are demanding the culling of people’s pets worldwide to reduce meat consumption.
They recruit the many to their cause only to betray them.
I supported gay marriage and still do. A cousin-in-law is gay and I saw how cruelly he was treated by members of the family, his partner never invited to their homes and treated like an outcast. I don’t pretend to understand the attraction but I do believe it’s very real and of the ones I’ve known well enough to discuss it with, they’ve told me they’ve always been attracted to members of their sex. What were they supposed to do? Live alone their entire lives?
And there’s certainly a difference between homosexuality and pedophilia. I have no sympathy at all with the latter and have never encountered a gay who did either.
Deviants saw an opening to legitimize their behavior and have exploited it by conflating tolerance for gay marriage with actions they know are fringe and barely legal. The MSM has certainly helped with their agenda and done their best to normalize promoting transgender propaganda to children.
That is exactly what they did, SW.
There are SO many people who think that transgenderism is a sexual orientation and so must be tolerated. They insist that people should be allowed to love whomever they want.
When actually transgenderism is anti-gay. You have to know what sex a person is to be homo or heterosexual.
The trans insist that if a man says he is a woman then lesbians should have sex with him, lady dick and all. Lesbians who refuse are attacked.
Now coming of age are the young girls who were convinced they were actually boys, and they are pressuring gay men into having sex with them.
As if! A girl with a double mastectomy is still a girl and gay men want nothing to do with them.
Of course women can’t threaten violence the way that men can, so it is still one-way violence directed at lesbians who refuse lady dick.
@ SW:
The push for gay marriage had a lot more to do with the various legal rights conferred by a civil marriage than with a wish to subvert traditional marriage.
For example, marriage confers property rights on the spouse, though their nature depends on the state. A spouse has a right to be covered by their partner’s health insurance, a right to visit their partner in the hospital when they are sick or dying, and a right to collect the spouse’s Social Security when they die. A spouse has a right to inherit property.
I have no problem with gay marriage as a civil matter.
Per Anthea, true, gay marriage was a way to pay the medical bills of all the gays dying from AIDS.
I have a great fondness for several gay men I’ve known over the years, though most of them died 20 or 30 years ago–three from AIDS, one from alcoholism, and one from old age. Only two from the “old days” are still living and now around 70.
You could say that they are just people like anyone else–except that they are not “like anyone else.” I am only in fairly regular contact with the one who lives nearby. (The other one wanders around alone in Asia and India, being a devout Buddhist.)
Anyway, the guy who lives nearby is a very dear old friend whom I met in college in 1973–back when he was leading a celibate life in the expectation of entering a monastery. He worked for a living all his life, like anyone else, and probably contributed more to his community than most people. He was the organist and choir director at a local Catholic church for about 15 years–for which he did not get paid. He sat on the parish council for a few years. He was a group leader in Al-Anon for many years. He was always generous and charitable and contributed to various causes. He and his SO own a charming house in the suburbs.
But what I was trying to get around to saying is that he has no concept of how the larger society views the “gay agenda” and the LGBT and trannie stuff. He mostly associates with city folks, both straight and gay, who tend to be more leftist–plus everybody loves him, so no one wants to argue with him. And, interestingly, when I’ve discussed some particular incident with him–like the Amy Coney Barrett allegations–he agrees with the perfectly reasonable view that you can’t convict people without evidence. It’s kind of like he supports the gay agenda without consciously supporting any of the particulars of the gay agenda, or even knowing what they are. He operates at a kind of “fist-bump” support-my-peeps level, without any awareness.
I’d like to warn him that the backlash on this will be terrible, and it’s very sure to come–though probably neither of us will live to see it.
Rowdypiglet,
Agreed. And I’m not buying Balenciaga’s ‘we didn’t know’ line. They easily could have missed the significance of the documents and the books on display, but the photos in and of themselves are crap. Anyone looking at the photos can see they are crap from an advertising perspective. The bears are all wearing S&M gear instead of Santa Clause hats. The kids aren’t smiling and don’t look happy. How does an ad like this get approved? I’ve answered my own question, Balenciaga was in on it.
Oh, mrs. saj, you haven’t seen the private pix offered by Balenciaga’s “creative stylist” who arranged the shoot. A female, to boot.
Nor the supportive comments- and you most certainly don’t want to, either.
This **** is sick beyond even the works adorning Podesta’s home, and far beyond what is offered to the public in the “family friendly” Comet Pizza.
Ghoulish and sadistic, not sexual. Only Satanic can describe this twisted lust. No human could possibly be turned on by this.
A sterling defense.
CFN ladies are a remarkable bunch; as alpha females, true leaders, they don’t give as good as they get, they give far, far better than they get.
Sorry, that was meant for MaryQ upstream.
Yes, lionesses, animal women….
Russian incursion into Eastern Ukraine has tossed a monkey wrench into the Globalist Machinery, f#kkng up the works. Putin is ready to take Odessa, and declare final victory. The 1st Russian Guards Army posted in those easternmost Russian Provinces — now the Russian border — will ensure the Donbas and the Black Sea Coast will remain Russian territory. I’m anxious to see how the US media and govt elites will explain away the $100 billion wasted on a losing cause? We were defending our values? We were defending Democracy?
I shouldn’t make light of a tragic situation, but this could be seen as making light of the special kind of stupidity which falls for this stuff:
https://twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1595614276525301760?s=20&t=yQycJjh7uPaUz8QEDjNaKQ
Found further down that thread and relevant to our discussion….
/twitter.com/Morpheusresist/status/1596985840286470146/video/1
Of course we were defending Democracy. That’s always the story. And sadly, it always works.
Remember when we had to invade Iraq because bin Ladin was hiding in a cave in Afghanistan and they couldn’t find him, and then it was because they might have weapons of mass destruction so we had to preemptively go to war?
It was kind of embarrassing they was so many Americans seemed to have bought that, while Europeans didn’t seem to.
It finally ended up that we went over there and killed a bunch of them to bring democracy, as if they had asked us to do that.
Colin Powell disgraced himself. And then again by supporting Barack Obama cuz he Black like me.
Now everyone is buying it. Shows how big a footprint the US hegemony has left on the world.
It was all about liberating the women, doncha know?
Another proof that using women as excuses for imperialism (now being used in Iran) has nothing to do with the needs or wants of actual women.
The US was in Afghanistan for 20 years and women were still in burqas when we left.
And it was the US that screwed the women over in the first place, back in the 80s.
Before that Afghanistan was a much better place, a favorite of hippies doing the hitch-hiking tourism thing.
If anyone is interested in the voices of Afghan women, here is a very good documentary.
.youtube.com/watch?v=vX-j6hI2hIw&t=72s
Thanks, Paula. 100% spot on.
That’s not true. We were turning them into Globalist whores, but given the savagely traditional culture, it wasn’t easy going.
I’ve heard that the bacha bazi, the boy harems, are actually a recent thing, started about the time we began defending the Afghans from Russians building hospitals, electricity, and schools for women doctors.
The Russian infrastructure investment in Afghan was massive. They built thousands of facilities, some still used, much falling into uselessness.
As Richard Burton said, the Southern Caucasians are far more sexual than we, the Northern Caucasians. Boy sex is a well established custom throughout the “Sotadic Zone”.
The Turks turned some Greek boys into prostitute/clowns. This kind of thing is important to them. One of the first things Suleiman the Magnificent did in Constantinople was to ask the Mayor to give him permission to take his son as a concubine. The Mayor refused. Suleiman has his son butchered before his eyes before he killed him.
“Defending Democracy”! Democracy is under attack everywhere and we must rise up to defend it!!!
This was the reason the senile and confused president Woodrow Wilson came up with as an excuse to get into a war that we understood absolutely nothing about and had no good reason to get involved with in the first place. Our meddling set Europe up for WWII and Hitler, who was funded and helped by a few players in the US like Prescott Bush. We.ve been completely unable tell the truth about any of our wars ever since the end of our great Civil War, where we were very successful in defeating the enemy – OURSLELVES!
Democracy and central banking rose up together. What, really, were we defending?
I don’t know where you get your intel BRH. Putin is loosing bigtime. I saw it on TV. Out of missiles, no men, rusty armor, no winter uniforms, spoiled fuel, you name it he doesn’t have it. HAHAHA. Seems the only people that don’t have fuel are Grandmas in Poughkeepsie. SloJoe says buy a shotgun and shoot it in the air. What an asshole.
This reminds me of the end of the story of Rumpelstiltskin. The victim reveals that she has learned his name, and now the imp is left powerless, and so runs off into a forest, or stomps himself into the ground, or take your pick of other gruesome endings.
So now, imp, we know your four names! Begone!
Well, it’s a good start.
That is interesting. It goes along with the belief of some people that names have power.
I can’t remember who thinks that, but I know it’s a thing.
I probably half-remembered it from John Michael Greer’s The King in Orange. However I really didn’t mean it in any magical sense here. Rather, I meant it as the first step in solving any problem is to correctly identify the problem.
OK then, problem ID’d. Next up, what we gonna do? I’m still working on that part.
Right? Too bad it doesn’t actually work that when you find them out they vaporize in a cloud of smoke.
Instead they vaporize you.
We cannot buy our way out of the current situation. What is needed is for people to accept poverty. That is near impossible. We are so accustomed to using money to solve problems. A smaller, slower, local economy with a lot less consumption is in our future.
Didn’t all of we Baby Boomers grow up like that?
I don’t think it’s that big a deal, personally.
I guess it’s “us” Baby Boomers.
@ Paula D:
I certainly grew up like that. I’m not even sure that I’d say modern life is better. As with anything else, it’s better for some people in some ways and not better for other people in other ways.
And, no, a smaller, slower, more local economy with a lot less consumption really isn’t a big deal.
“What is needed is for people to accept poverty..”
J L.
What is needed is for people to understand and accept a diminished, simpler, lifestyle, and appreciate what they have.
Works for me.
Yeah, what you said.
I’m puzzled why there are still even questions about what and why.
All civilizations and empires fail, and always for the same reasons: the result of some combination of overshoot, depletion and degradation.
One of the fundamental principles of war is diversion, secrecy, misdirection. You cannot allow your enemy to actually know your true intentions.
So when you pit elite thinkers against normal, hardworking everyday Americans, the result is easily predictable. The power differential is obvious, but the real advantage is the wholesale gaslighting and brainwashing the target was subject to from birth.
People give wokism too much credit. Like everything else, simply ask yoursel, quo bono? The enemy of the elite are normal, functioning family units, whereas The most distressed people are society’s losers. Ok, if you are trying to disable and weaken your enemy, how do take out their foundation?
As I keep saying, while jim and others have been addressing these issues for 25 years, hubbert completed his work in 1956. And before that the British knew they had to initiate ww1 to block the Germans from contesting control of the first great reserves discovered in the 1900s.
You can keep going back further to explore the same dynamic, say, rome vs carthage. What was their beef all about anyway?
So yeah, what is happening is all very predictable, but you need to be capable of putting aside beliefs, hopes, wishes and other self defeating emotional baggage to get it.
Once there, the playing field is clear as day. Now you can be an observer of blinken v putin, see the roster each side brings, who might prevail and rule over a world ordered under scarcity.
What do you say to Nigh Owl who eschews all such Peak Oil theories. Was King Hubbert a Globalist lackey?
I don’t eschew any theory; it is rather the concrete statements with no hard evidence that I tend to find funny.
Such as those about us having met the carrying capacity of the earth.
The point is for how long, say ten billion people could be supported. You don’t want to engage. You won’t come out of your corner to fight – so you have been deemed the loser.
Or in Debate: a Debater who won’t debate and keeps trying to take the fifth will be declared the loser.
There is nothing to engage. You and two far dumber than you made a statement that is not able to be supported with facts.
It is quite possible that we could have overpopulation at some point. The idea of that is so obvious that it’s comical.
“At some point”. You mean that we would exceed the long term carrying capacity of the Earth?
Thank you for that. The Truth at last!
Keepin’ large notebook full of Night Owl’s arguments for why carrying capacity has likely not been reached yet, and his arguments supporting any of his other positions. Just one entry so far though, reads: “Netherlands grow a lot of stuff—and feed Europe, believe you me.”
Yes, Jarek. This point was never discussed.
Your statement remains horseshit, unless you or one of our resident professors can back it.
You make this so easy.
No, you just admitted it. Over-population implies Carrying Capacity. If you don’t get that, you’re not as smart as we are.
Just back your claim, Professor.
Should be easy.
Or no?
LOL.
Night Owl, where your statement re carrying capacity falls is this:
It is not the technology that will break.
It is the social systems undergirding the industrial society, that will break.
I’m sorry, but one can’t MBA one’s way out of human nature.
It doesn’t fall. You simply don’t focus on the statement.
The statement is that there is no hard evidence that we are at carrying capacity.
The level of dimwittery present here at times is truly something to behold.
If you look into the hole in an outhouse you can see the Democrat America and it smells the same. Seems voters have lost their sense of smell on the way to mainstreaming mental illness. My reply to them is always FUCK YOU MAGGOT. Having no qualms about being who I am where I am.
I think they are mainstreaming mental illness partly for the same reason they are trying to mainstream being fatashell.
Because Generalized Anxiety Disorder and extreme obesity have been induced by some kind of unholy alliance between “science” and government and the media.
Merely a failure of the education system. Flaunting ignorance.
They induce mental illness.
Paranoia (they are out to get us, kill them before they kill us), hypochondria and OCD come to mind immediately.
Beryl, I can’t agree enough.
They don’t want us to notice they are killing us.
The movie Wally is coming true.
Obese to the point of not moving, fed by robots and trashing everything in sight.
All pro sports are cults (and, increasingly, college sports as well, I might add).
Rome?
Worse yet, college sports are increasingly stripping away their already very thin veneer of amateurism and becoming professional themselves.
college $ports that make money.
not marginal ones like wrestling etc.
True.
Although, I think Name, Image, & Likeness (NIL) applies to all their sports, so there’s that. But it’s true that football essentially subsidizes all the rest.
basketball, gymnastics.
I don’t know much about the economics of sports, but I do know that they are pretty heavily government-subsidized. Taxpayers pay for those big elaborate stadiums. I wonder what professional sports would look like if the teams had to pay their own freight in the way of overhead costs?
When sports teams build roads, taxpayers can build stadiums.
Actually, it works like Detroit.
As the city was dying, the city council decided to build a big new stadium sports stadium venue.
Think of the revenue from the surrounding neighborhoods flocking in!, they said.
Left unsaid was, think of the cut we’ll get from all the trade unions building the thing, and all the concessionaires renting space and getting contracts!
Hey tom, we agree on something!
Well, yes, I’d have to agree with Tom there. I also find sports about equally as interesting as any of the other cults–which is to say, not at all. I have never been able to figure out why anyone would prefer one team over another or be interested in any particular sports figure, let alone the game itself.
The whole thing reminds me of being in high school and having to attend pep rallies, an even more boring proceeding than sitting in an algebra class.
I feel the same. I love playing sports, but I have no interest in watching professional sports. I love to watch spontaneous pick up games in the parks, like soccer or softball, tennis, etc. but watching any game on TV is a snoozer. Not interested.
My trouble is that I’m not a team player at any level–though I vaguely recall enjoying playing baseball with the neighborhood kids when I was a kid.
I’ve known very few people in my whole life who were interested in sports. None of the men in my family were interested in sports, and none of my daughters’ husbands or in-laws are interested in sports. I guess I inhabit a world where sports hardly exist.
I might be wrong about this, but my impression of the sports cult is that it is another one of those silly cultural traditions spawned by idle Brit bluebloods. A good example is a little place called “Rugby” in Eastern Tennessee. A failed British inspired utopian society that was supposed to help “disadvantaged” young sons of British landed gentry who had to fend for themselves because back in the times of primogeniture, the oldest son got it all, the second sons got nothing. Instead of boarding school for them it was to be an off the wall place in Tenn, surrounded by real rednecks and TN hillbillies, But it seems these new Brit pioneers were unable to stop playing rugby. You see, peasants, tradesmen, and blue collar industrial males growing up didn’t have time for sports – they were already in the work force and had chores at home that took all their time. Their blue blood peers were learning to ride horses and goiing fox hunting, and engaged in activities like like golf, rugby, tennis etc.. Having time for sports meant you were born upper class, you had leisure time for non essential activities and entertainment.
So they called the little town in TN Rugby. Why? And the social experiment failed because it couldn’t support itself by farming the poor soil of the Cumberland Plateau. Those “second sons” didn’t have the time to be both farming poor land and playing rugby and tennis. Today the place is a quaint and interesting tourist stop with some unusual Victorian style buildings still left.
Not cults tribalism.
Well, ladies and germs;
Big trouble in little China.
The Situational Awareness, this AM, reports;
TAIWAN PRESIDENT STEPS DOWN FROM PARTY LEADERSHIP AFTER HISTORIC ELECTION LOSSES: Taiwan’s President Tsai Ing-wen resigned from the head of her ruling party after staggering midterm election losses that put the opposition Kuomintang in charge of 22 municipalities. It was the worst loss for the Democratic Progressive Party in its 36-year history. (AC: Tsai remains the President of Taiwan, however the Kuomintang are now running local governments across Taiwan. Also of note, in August, Kuomintang representatives sent a high-level delegation to mainland China for talks with Chinese Communist Party officials. Tsai’s DPP has carried a hard line against reunification with China. This defeat could lead to “third way” politics via the Kuomintang, which China is probably already supporting or would support if given the opportunity. – M.M.)
So the Kuomintang is losing support. It is rumored, however, that the Poontang still is very popular.
Ha, ha, the plans of our evil overlords just took another big hit.
The Taiwanese people made it clear they didn’t want to be the next Ukraine.
The US war planners really, really wanted another “Let’s you and him fight Over There”. Over There meaning Taiwan.
But the homies don’t play that games.
WSJournal today:
“While protesters took to the streets in major cities such as Beijing and Shanghai over the weekend to condemn Chinese leader Xi Jinping’s zero-Covid strategy, viewers at home logged on to social media to castigate state broadcaster China Central Television for allegedly trying to veil the fact that many countries have moved away from tough measures such as mass lockdowns and mask mandates.
When the World Cup, the most prestigious tournament in international soccer, opened in Qatar earlier this month, many Chinese fans watching CCTV’s coverage noticed that stadiums were filled with large crowds mingling and soaking up the festivities without masks—in contrast to how China still generally requires masking up at mass gatherings.
The images jarred with the daily experiences of many Chinese, who face recurrent lockdowns and mass Covid testing as part of Mr. Xi’s zero-tolerance approach. But as the tournament unfolded, some fans noticed a subtle shift in what they saw on screen: Footage of maskless crowds grew increasingly scarce.”
I think it’s bizarre that China thinks they can stop covid at this point.
They did manage to stop SARS 1, so that might be why they had this policy early on.
But the bioweapons labs keep cranking out more “variants”. The Omincron version was pretty mild. China should have let it run through the population, imo.
Why don’t they use ivermectin?
Why are they using mass testing? They are doing USA, circa 2020. I remember that back in 2020 they only diagnosed covid by CT scan. The person had to be sick and the CT scan of the lungs had to show bilateral ground glass appearance.
It was research from China, back in March 2020, which showed that outdoor transmission was not a thing. I remember that distinctly because in America we had beaches and parks locked down and people were warned that they couldn’t go to outside gatherings. I knew from China that that was a lie.
So why are they now not letting people outside?
They are going backwards, unless it is just a cover to keep labor unrest down.
Paula D said: “But the bioweapons labs keep cranking out more “variants”. The Omincron version was pretty mild”
On what do you base this claim, Paula D? (The first part, I mean)
The Omicron version was so different than the previous versions that it was obviously another lab-made virus.
I got that from Heather Heying and Brett Weinstein.
But then the Russian MoD affirmed it after Russia captured some of the Ukie bioweapons labs.
“In May 2022, at a conference in Spain, Geoffrey Sachs – a leading expert at the prestigious medical journal The Lancet and a professor at Columbia University, the leading institution for global biosafety science – explained that “…the coronavirus was artificial and, with a high degree of likelihood, aided by American advances was generated in biotechnology … ”
According to our experts, this is reflected in the variability uncharacteristic of most coronaviruses, resulting in different peaks in incidence, significant differences in lethality and infectivity, uneven geographic spread, and the unpredictability of the epidemic process overall. Despite efforts to contain and isolate cases, the pandemic appears to be being artificially fueled by the exposure of new variants of the virus to this or that region.”
And the Delta “variant” was rolled out in the summer of 2021, during the “vaccine” push, to get the ”resistant” to cave.
They told us it started in India, a full year and a half after India was pretty much untouched by the original roll out.
But respiratory viruses do not spread in the summer. They spread in the fall and winter, called “cold and flu season”.
And they don’t spread among children who are not in school.
That story was fishy as hell, but they got away with it, so then they rolled out Omnicron in the fall.
Supposedly it started in a dude with AIDS who had it for 19 months, because…..AIDS (as if that makes sense. Not)
And it spent the whole nine months mutating away in his AIDS-ridden body and then popped out in South Africa.
And then South African doctors isolated it on a Thursday, it was named the next day on that Friday, and then…..
Magic Happened!
And the next week it had spread all over the USA.
That story is not believable. But they sold it and it emboldened them.
Todays Ticker guy is a good read.
I just found this
A few months ago I was opening a bottle of wine for my wife and I.
It was the last one which I told her. I did not say the name.
A short time later I took a picture of the bottle.
After we watched a movie and she went online, she was getting ads to buy that exact wine.
They got the name off the photo to match up with what I told her. Your devices are always listening and watching.
Something similar to that happened to someone in my family with her iPhone.
Similar things happen frequently to me. I begin getting ads for things after I have a conversation with someone in which they talk about those things that are of keen interest to them Things like Ford Broncos or plasma CNC table. This conversations happen at their place of activity.
I think it can either be by WiFi network association (even if I don’t connect to their WiFi), GPS association or by a hot microphone. .
Now that I am thinking about this, I suppose it could also be by iPhones communicating with others in their proximity.
Whatever is the collection method, I very much do not like it being done.
It is bad enough that they spy on us with our devices, but a couple of months ago I was outside with the goats.
No phone, no computer, out in the middle of nowhere. And I THOUGHT to myself, “That goat needs her hooves trimmed”. I said nothing out loud.
And when I came back in the house and turned on my computer there was an ad for goat hoof trimmers.
You just had a religious experience. ‘There is a God.’
Paula, I find that hard to believe.
Often, my wife and I have experiences such as this. I’ll think of something and mention it to her. She’ll say. “I was just thinking of that” We call it the ESPN. We’ve been together for 40 years.
Right? It does seem unbelievable, but it happened.
Creeped me right out.
There is a God and he wants me to trim goat hooves?
Hahaha! Paula, that is so cool!
Right up my alley, too. What a fabulous illustration for the textbook someday!
Indeed. And it’s not the one you’re thinking of, it’s the one now assembling an idoru, a body made of the nanographene meat puppets of covidtech.
The same one, by the way, that told you “there is only one God,” and that that God just happens to be It.
Well, Paula, if TPTB have finally cracked the challenge of reading our friggin’ minds then we can at least all relax about being spied on by our electronic toys, LOL!
This sorta renders that paranoia very, very moot.
Minnie was being a bit obtuse so I said, How is Mickey – implying Mickey Mouse. Within a week or so Mick appeared here.
The Universe responds to requests, sometimes at least. Google is more reliable perhaps.
One is reminded of Cuban children being asked to pray for candy and nothing happening. Then they would be asked to pray to Castro. And while their eyes were still shut, the teacher would creep around the room putting candy on each desk. Paula would have kept her eyes tightly shut. I would have peeked and SEEN the Truth.
I don’t have a “device”. I have an old fashioned flip phone, and I don’t answer it unless I know the caller’s number. I rarely have my phone on my person. I hate the things and my friends and family think there’s something wrong with me, that I’m a luddite.
You are a luddite WChuck, .My flip phone shit the bed. I have a free smart phone. Came form Tracphone. The thing is crazy smart. I keep all the features shut off. But I have apps, like a level, decibel meter, calculator, guitar tuner, and conversion calculator. The thing is cool.I keep it in the microwave at night. Gotdam thing doesn’t know where it is.
ROTFLOL
Theoretical Question: What’s worse and more useless to society? A luddite or a peasant that would rather live on its’ knees than die on its’ feet?
neurodoc – there’s no apostrophe in “its”. (That’s a Grocer’s Apostrophe)
Nothing wrong with Luddites. Luddites are not anti-technology. The are against the misuse of technology.
its: ownership
it’s: it is
Neurodoc, why are you busting my balls. I don’t live on my knees and I’m sure you don’t either. As I said. I think we’re on the same team. It’s?? It’s?? What is that supposed to mean. Believe me, we don’t need to get in a pissing contest.
How did you get the free Trac-Phone?
How much does it cost per month?
Is this deal a Massachusetts thing???
Hey Islander, Trac fone told me my 2015 samsung would stop working because of tech changes. They sent me a new phone free. it’s a samsung something or other. It kicks the crap out of my old phone. I still use my old phone as there are apps in there I use. I’ve used trac fone forever. It costs hardly anything as I just use it as a phone. I rarely carry it unless I’m going on the road or shopping at the supermarket as my wife always forgets something on my list.
Maybe I should contact Trac-fone.
Is yours a prepay, or do you have some kind of contract?
I just want something for traveling. I think I need some kind of data to even find out when the train leaves!!!
In 2014 I didn’t have any phone. I was traveling on Amtrak to California and there was a landslide in the Rocky Mountains that made us go back to Denver for a day.
I was going to meet my nephew in Davis and his roommate was an Amtrak engineer, so I made no attempt to notify my family, assuming that the roommate would tell my nephew.
Nope. When I didn’t show up on time my husband called Amtrak to find out what happened. They told him that no one else had called. Apparently everyone but me had a cell phone.
Anyway, I went to AT&T to get one of those temporary phones, but they were going to make me pay a big one time fee for the privilege of carrying a phone for a month (and I only needed it for 3 days).
So screw it. I went without a phone and the train back home ran more or less on time.
Ditto. I have a 3G flip phone.
Verizon is trolling me. Turning off the phone if I don’t use it. Sending me constant emails about 3G being buried as of Dec. 31, and there is a great deal on some phone for $100. Or $100 discount.
Whatever. I’ll wait and see what happens on Jan. 1!
Meanwhile, the prepay flipper is costing me ca. $5/month.
Those who have devices shouldn’t complain about them. Just like getting the jab.
Woodchuck…..I’m not far behind you. I still carry an iPhone, albeit the 2021 SE version….Apple’s equivalent of a Yugo. Yeah….it’s a smartphone, but I frequently turn it off and when it is on I feel totally at liberty to ignore all incoming calls, texts, and notifications. I play with the dang thing when I feel like it, not when it tells me to.
I used to occasionally catch grief from friends, relatives, and others as to “Why didn’t you answer my text, or my phone call?” My answer is always the same: Because I did not want to. This response typically ignites the hair of my interrogator.
When they get explode and demand to know why I refuse, I simply respond that “I own this phone and pay for the service. Therefore I use it as I see fit. It is not an electronic leash and I feel no obligation to allow it to function as one.”
They still don’t like that answer, but it frequently brings an end to their tirade, if not to their sense of entitlement to interrupt my day whoever they see fit.
One time on Judge Judy, a Black admitted that he had kept pounding on someone’s door cuz “he knew she was in there”. Judy said, Maybe she didn’t want to come out. The Black was taken aback, an alien concept to him. He quickly tried to pretend that he understood.
Hilarious. The look on the faces of the entitled is always priceless when you call them on their sense of entitlement.
BRAVO JIM !!!!!!!!!!
Absolute brilliant summation of the DARKNESS that has closed on the land of free and the home of the brave !!!!!!!!!!!
Ace of Spades wrote about the elevation of mental illness in our society, I wish I had archived some of this stuff in a searchable database, but when I started this I didn’t know I would need to.
Wokery is often described as a new kind of religion, but that’s mainly because all of its proffers and principles are irrational, as is characteristic of all religions. – JHK
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Thanks, Jim, for pointing this out.
There is irrational and then there is trans-rational. Ir means not. Trans means beyond. They are not the same.
And your point?
My point was made in the comment.
Jarek,
Trans-rational” Why the attempt at spin? Why are you attempting to make a faith-based phenomena something rational? I thought the appeal was faith, not probative occurrence Religions are faith based BECAUSE they are not rational..
Yeah, that’s why I made the point. That’s wrong. Some of the greatest philosophers were men of faith. It is not simple irrationality. Such geniuses are not idiots.
By way of explanation, the word “religion” covers a very broad spectrum of human experience and belief. Do you really think that offering your heart up to the Sun (an image of God for some pagan civilizations) is the same as cutting out somebody else’s and holding it up to the physical sun?
As Ken Wilber said, rational non-believers like you are closer to the real mystics than the superstitious “believers”. In human life, there are the low, middle, and high. You’re in the middle. Don’t confuse the low and the high just because neither of them are in the middle or like you.
Someone said (I forget who right now, maybe Hegel):
The animals are unconscious imperfection.
The gods are conscious perfection.
But man is conscious imperfection.
Alas for man! But such suffering is the swiftest horse to perfection. And those who feel no divine discontent are likely the low, or animal type men.
The Aztecs oppressed the surrounding tribes. When the Conquistadors arrived, Malanchine roused these tribes to ally with the Conqustadors. That’s a big reason, in addition to the religious angle, why a handful of Spaniards could prevail. Something to think about as we consider how many seething enemies we may have around the globe.
And if they didn’t watch them carefully, their allies would put Aztec prisoners over the fire to eat.
No herd animals. Game mostly killed off. Those boyos were hongry for protein. Aztec, Maya (same basic religion and worldview), surrounding tribes – all of them.
The Demonic forces triumphed in Central America. Overpopulation sure didn’t help. It helped the Demonic forces.
Good point.
Same history is highlighted regarding the conquest of the Incas by was it Pizarro?
You can read about it in John K. Thornton’s A Cultural History of the Atlantic World, 1250 to 1840.
I have to say that so far, when I hear people turn to Mass Formation as an explanation for anything, I conclude that they haven’t read enough actual history. That includes recent history.
That said, the discussion of psychological manipulation is masterfully explained by Joost Merloo, The Rape of the Mind, published back in 1956. It’s all there.
IMO the biggest problem with the Mass Formation notion is that it ends up blaming the victims.
I liked Charles Mann’s “1491” – my favorite read on the Aztec situation. Was assigned it while studying history at university.
I read that book decades ago and loved it. But I can’t recall many of the details.
More recently—The Thornton title is really extraordinary. Both he and his wife are Africa specialists—their field is African history as its own subject.
In a seminar at Boston U that Thornton held for seven years, he and his students explored all of these different aspects of these multiple “encounters” between European conquerors and those they conquered. All of that “backstory” research eventually became the book A Cultural History of the Atlantic World.
So they tied in “independent” history of the African continent, which obviously was ongoing when the Atlantic slave trade started, there were rivalries, wars, political infighting, etc. Slaving was already well established in Africa at that point.
Then Thornton took the same approach to understanding the interplay of the European “discovery” of the New World with the history of Mexico, Central America, and South America that was ongoing. Including internal political struggles (the Incas) and environmental overshoot (Central America and Mexico). He also delved deeply into conditions in Europe and, especially, Spain, whence most of the conquistadors came (most were younger sons of middling noble families). Also, the seminar studied the financial crises in Europe that followed the breakup of the feudal system, leading to would-be rulers’ need for hard cash to pay troops. The treasure that came from the New World propped up and made possible the intra-European wars of the 16th–18th centuries.
Fascinating. Thanks for sharing. History is truly the most fascinating thing.
There are quite a few illustrations and maps, and the writing is excellent.
A lot is made of books by Simon Winchester, including one on a similar theme, but I find him boring and narrow compared to Thornton.
“IMO the biggest problem with the Mass Formation notion is that it ends up blaming the victims.”
Excellent. I’ve never really liked the concept- now I know why I recoil. It seemed incomplete.
I don’t know why people automatically reach for excuses to defend malignant authorities acting with agency, or as if they didn’t exist, but people do.
For those interested in the bigger picture, moon has a very good thread going right now.
They speak very matter of factly about the depop agenda and other wef style objectives within the context of Nato, uke, Russia and the world.
No crying or complaining, just the desire for info to allow scoring updates to the great game.
What is ‘moon’?
Slug, it could be Moon of Alabama, a forum with good conversations and info, mostly about the Ukr war…
Thanks, Rulo. I’ll check it out. Meanwhile, I visited The Avocado Grove. Your writing is full of humanity. Wonderful.
Thank you, Slug.
Rulo’s paean to Argentina, a visit to his mother’s old neighborhood, was so vivid, so moving. A minor masterpiece.
He is an amazingly talented writer, yes!
I was just there as well. Deeply charming.
Jim this is a great synthesis of the four plagues and I believe they all are interdependent. The rise of Trump was needed to drive half of the population bat shit crazy so they would lose all sense of skepticism and run to the arms of the media. A media that would feed them Russia Gate, Covid and J6, unleashing the mass psychosis.
I’m shocked by the narrow vision of these lost souls. They fail to see the forest through the trees. As many other readers have encountered, I’ve spoken to them about the WEF, the words and quotes coming directly from the power brokers and they see no importance of it at all.
The power brokers see that the age of abundance is over, that the paths they took to globalize everything and print money with abandon has only hastened the end and assured it to be a much more painful transition.
Now they cook up conflicting narratives to make us destroy ourselves
“…the general apprehension of (collapsing techno-industrial society ) now on-going, among the citizenry has generated such terror as to drive society crazy.”
I concur.
“Apprehension” is an interesting choice as it straddles anxiety regarding future events and understanding. Here we have both meanings simultaneously. In a cosmos where quantum entanglement is science, everything from Clif High’s web bot spiders to sixth sense (or whatever number it is these days) enjoys high confidence.
At the nuts and bolts thermodynamic level — ratio of available energy to demand — the “conspiratorial” actions of those with a badge and a gun become logical. Rational, even. Electrical power via nuclear reactors (presently available) still boils water with heat to create steam to turn turbines to spin generators. It is obvious that the greater the demand (human population) the more energy required. Supply shortages equate to less economic activity, less demand, which sooner or later means fewer humans.
Perhaps the greater the cultural complexity and its manifestations the greater the intensity of collective insanity when “the end is nigh.” The Aztec metaphor is apt: the Spanish were astounded at the breadth and magnificence of the stone architecture as they made their way to The City, beyond anything they could have even dreamed of in Europe.
I guess in the ledger of human cruelty Drag Queen Story Hour pales in comparison with the Aztec bloodbath, but that may be a judgment best left to future historians.
Drag Queen Story Hour is what they do in public.
What they do in private ranks up there with any past human brutality.
Good comment, Billy Hill.
Apprehension is crushing us. Their propaganda works – it requires Herculean efforts to stay calm and carry on.
. “Having replaced our Gods with science.”
Then aren’t the vax deaths and injuries meant to propitiate the “god” of science?
And why so many are happy to oblige?
Science as you conceive it to be is a product of wokeism. Science would not let vax deaths and injuries happen. People did that. If it were not for Science you would not be here.
Woke people like you confuse science with cretins in white lab coats. In wokeism there is no repentance, no accountability. Science demands evidence and proof. People who shit on science don’t need any proof at all.
If Fauchi or anybody lied, that is not science. Science is about listening to truth.
Yet you took the “vaccine”
I before E except after C, disproved by pyscience.
“I doubt there is another era in the history of Western Civ when the forces in-motion acting on society were so mystifying to those acted upon.”
That’s because the Dark Faux Masters have never had so many easy tools to use to confuse and con and gaslight We the People. Plus the fact that many people seem to enjoy their enslavement. ‘The Willing Slave’ has always been the wet dream for us by the Dark Powers.
“And isn’t it especially galling that this is so in an age after rational scientific practice had decoded so many of nature’s secrets?”
And this is exactly why it’s so easy for the Dark Forces these days. The Dark Ones have broken into some deep secrets of Life and have turned these powers and secrets into weapons against us.
“How is it that we don’t know for sure how this organism came into the world, or understand what ensued after it did?”
We’ll get this answer right after the Darks spill their guts about the truth of JFK. And that should come along right about… NEVER.
“How did Fauci and company get away with it?”
Again, easy. Fauci IS THE HEAD of the Government. The Presidents take orders from him. ‘The Holy Science!’ takes orders from him. And Fauci gets his orders directly from The Devil himself. Pretty high-cotton stuff going on there.
“… the Marxist campaign to disorder society… Its primary tactic is to normalize mental illness. Wokery is often described as a new kind of religion…”
To have a ‘religion’ means you have to de-anchor from rational thinking and submit to some kind of mass delusion. Traditional religions come in various flavors but they all require one to submit to some kind of detached oppressive authority figures and doctrines that largely make no sense. (All this is in contrast to true Spirituality and one’s devotion to the existential Divine – the Ground of Being). Wokery as religion exists due to the failure of the traditional flavors of organized religion to be any kind of useful force and guide in the midst of complex, contentious living and the ongoing war against We the People by the Dark Powers).
“The mystery here is how Wokery was incorporated into the operating system of the Democratic Party.”
For many years after the fiasco of the Johnson Administration the Dems were getting their asses kicked by the Reps. Nixon, Reagan, and the Bush Boys all seized on the impotent Dems who had already begun to turn their backs on working people. The Dems needed a new false doctrine to rally around. First came acting like Rep’s Light. But that didn’t work very well (the Clintons). And then, hallelujah… comes along the Wokester Reefer Madness that just fits their bill for confused and alienated young people desperate to find some kind of purpose in life that has become largely empty and hopeless for them.
“… the most mysterious of the four fuckeries: Globalism… led by the quasi-comical Klaus Schwab.”
Santa Claus flies in his sleight and comes down your chimney and delivers gifts to all the good children of the World.
Santa KLAUS burns lots of fossil fuels in a private jet and seizes your chimney and your home as his own (‘You Vill Own NOT-TING!’) and instead of delivering presents he steals everything inside your home and then evicts you from it. Both Santas are bit pudgy and not-too-healthy looking. Santa One goes back to the North Pole to freeze his ass off. And Santa Two wants YOU to freeze your ass off with no heat and nothing to eat.
“… the Four Fuckeries now loose in the world as Western Civ wobbles… having replaced our gods with science, we have no deity to propitiate.”
Theologians have long told us that we all have a ‘God hole’ to fill with some kind of deity or faux deity to give our lives meaning. The One True God does not require our attention or worship. But Himself would like to see his now-badly-fallen creation exhibit just a bit more sanity in Life.
One of the best reveals I saw was on the day of Trump’s inauguration when the Clintons, Bushs and Obamas all greeted each other with warm smiles and embraces.
Then they all sat together, 24 years of power. How many of their followers spent years of angst hating an opposition that never existed. They were all on the same team.
And there they showed disdain for the Orange One, as though he had crashed their party.
Those four fuckeries are consequences of collapse.
The real fuckery is a diesel semi with a Conestoga wagon drawn on the side of the trailer. Life size with a couple of life sized pioneers holding the reigns on a team of life sized horses. The company logo is on the side of the wagon.
The semi whips by you. You look and it is gone and all you see is a barren field a farmer did not have money to plant this year. No horses to pull a wagon and no trees to build a wagon as far as the eye can see.
That is the real fuckification. Diesel is in short supply don’t you know, and guess what? It is not the war that does it.
And no horses, no wood does not matter. With so many people there is no place wagons could go.
Peak fuckery this way comes.
Consequenes of collapse.
You are so far off in la la land.
The orchestration behind this is so obvious that a child could see it, if pointed in the right direction.
IIRC, it was you claiming CBDCs are no big deal. Check out the news about China down the thread.
Dolts marching humanity to the slaughter.
“Even a child could see it my way.”
Hmm..
Indeed. I don’t know what he is talking about.
In the previous thread, you claimed that owning a credit card was equivalent to programmable CBDCs in terms of the danger it represents.
You then ran away.
Just as you have done here, dim.
That was rather poetic. I hope to gosh it wasn’t my semi you were talking about. It appears our good Night Owl has never been to Nevada, or Phoenix, or Kansas.
Normal people who don’t need services, pay their taxes, etc – how do they help the Elite? The don’t. They’re not “clients”. And their voting is an outrage. They need to be dealt with.
Jerry Lee called himself ‘lady killer’ and some think he killed his wife.
His son died in a crash.
Jerry slapped Janis Joplin when she showed up at his show.
According to what I read, either what I read or you got it bass-ackwards.
Internet claims that Jerry Lee made an unkind remark to Janis’ sister and that set her off. She popped him one:
JOHN BYRNE COOKE: “And we went backstage, and Jerry Lee was definitely not welcoming. I mean, she said hi Jerry Lee, this is my hometown. I wanted to, you know, make you welcome here. But he made a remark about Janis’ sister. Anyway, she flew at him, and we pulled her off and kept them apart and we got her out of there. It was a very strange – it was a very country-rock ‘n’ roll evening.”
“By their fruits you shall know them”
An old maxim that often helps clear things up. And in the current era, ‘fruits’ provides a nice double-entendre. The mystery of the Four Fuckeries might be the mother of all conspiracy theories, but it all has been too well organized to be merely a monumental misfortune. A few nukes lobbed around would put the icing on the cake.
Anyone sturdy or brave enough to take on this article in toto, hats off to you.
On You Tube there is a channel:
>Fall of Civilizations
It has a most excellent two part episode:
The Aztecs – A Clash of Worlds
The word Aztec the video explains was not what the people called themselves. They called themselves the Mexica
This channel is outrageously good.
I thought last year might be the last (so I went) opportunity for the American hoi polloi to visit Europe on a middle class income. Not so fast! Maybe my wife and 4 couples will make a “grand tour”THIS summer, biking our way through the old country reflecting on our Western Civ experiment and hoping that “the Fall” is not too precipitous.
Can we thank Trump for his service and retire him?
I am pleased with this JHK summation. I do not like swearing but as my father remarked when I upbraided him 40 years ago for not cursing–If not used sparingly, it is a crutch. Several days ago I had to look up FFS…..
I am glad my wife worked. As a VP she started a day care at work. When the kids started school she was able to set her schedule at 7:00-2:30 and pick them up at school. A partnership uses the best capabilities of the team….
I asked my 4th year med student son to attend the McCullough/Malhotra gala in Dallas tomorrow night and he and his wife are going. I cautioned him, “don’t do anything to threaten the receipt of your diploma, but keep your eyes open as you get ready for your residency”.
I mentioned “austerity” to my boss for the first time in 1979 at our DC think tank and said it was unlikely to be accepted as a solution in the American political arena and that I would be quitting to attend dental school in the Fall.
I never thought things could go this far…..
Mr Kunstler,
An excellent and thoughtful post this morning!
You wrote: ” My own conviction is this: that the general apprehension of such an event, now on-going, among the citizenry has generated such terror as to drive society crazy.”
That is a phenomenon that will be hard to see clearly, especially from the inside of it, but I think you are on to something with this hypothesis. I have been perceiving something similar myself, but lack sufficient information and learning to identify it clearly.
The herd smells the fear and begins to become panicky.
I believe that many of us here in your comments section do not subscribe to the hype related to “climate change (that was once “global warming”, but this abstract and vaporous idea is certainly being used as a top-down instrument against whole populations.
What if there really are highly intelligent psychopaths behind the political figures (we perceive their puppetry, but cannot clearly see the puppeteers) and these psychopaths understand the consequences of resource depletion in a global population 8X the solar carrying capacity of the planet.
When I see “climate change” being used as a policy instrument, it appears to be used as a tool for population reduction above all.
Massive population reduction is going to happen, and, it would seem, quite soon. It is going to happen. So, what if, by calling a measurable phenomenon such as scarcity due to resource depletion an intangible and uncontrollable concept of gargantuan scale like “climate change”, we, the herd, will die off with potentially less violence.
And, as an added bonus, we will beg the wise masters for relief, submitting to their accumulating power. They will promise solutions and safety, and we will give them everything.
By controlling the narrative through false causes, the collapse might have a chance to be managed and profited from, and, like in the Soviet collapse, we will be subject to the rise of the Western Oligarchs who will then control our previously “free” countries.
That is a very thought provoking comment, Zhao, thanks.
I don’t understand why it is better to blame the upcoming scarcity on “climate change” instead of “resource depletion and overpopulation”, but as you say, we can see the puppetry but we can’t understand the reasoning of the puppeteers. Apparently they think this will go over better with the masses.
So I think you’re probably right.
Zhao, Paula,
good comments. Yes, “climate change” is a propaganda vehicle. Most of us who are aware of the dire environmental scenario (“Planet of the Humans” is a good introduction of our plight), do not fall for the climate propaganda.
There will be a lot of anger directed at environmentalists as the situation evolves and shelves go bare. Scapegoating.
Right, tree huggers that want to preserve what little remains for the living organism Gaia to live (and let us live on her surface) will be to blame. Not consumerism and greed. Not styrofoam, glyphosate, overfishing, planned obsolescence; gentle souls that love pileated woodpeckers and clear springs are the culprits. Even here, there’s a lot of rage against anyone coming between you and your god-given right to a jet ski and sushi.
Lost your plain talk here :
What if there really are highly intelligent psychopaths behind the political figures (we perceive their puppetry, but cannot clearly see the puppeteers) and these psychopaths understand the consequences of resource depletion in a global population 8X the solar carrying capacity of the planet.
Fucked only four ways?
A wide open southern border allowing millions of unaccounted foreigners to enter freely. It’s the world’s biggest wet t-shirt contest.
All brought to us by a demented US government working hand in hand with Mexican drug cartels. As an extra bonus poisonous fentanyl becomes freely available for our youth to commit suicide.
Another fuckery is our cities are overrun with homeless drug addicts living under a blue wave of cheap tents and tarps along our streets, parks and public spaces. Litter, trash, feces and urine decorate our sidewalks and buildings tagged with hideous paintings from the nozzles of millions of cans of spray paint.
Frank, I know you realize the tragedy of the crisis which confronts this country on the border. The powers talk the talk as thousands die yearly from the scourge of poison. flowing over our border. This year 100,000 young people died. That is millions of life years lost. I’ve witnessed many unnecessary deaths form this tragic waste of life.
Mass starvation, total economic catastrophe, along with father time will do wonders in cleaning up the mess you speak of. Flies, worms, and feral dogs will also aid greatly in cleaning up the problem of dead bodies everywhere. Mother nature will fix things in the end.
Maybe the Azteca were right to eat them- but if we tried that today, we’d die from poisoned meat.
Insect article in the Washington Post.
3W.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/11/27/eating-insects-good-for-you
Anything goes, nothing matters.
Giorgio de Chirico is the greatest painter of the 20th century, still providing fresh insight over 40 years since his death.
His paintings were always marked by a queasy, ambiguous mood between alienation and mystic wonder. Now, I’ve noticed the dominant, long shadows can be seen as more portentous and prophetic.
Soul,
I had to look. Yes, the long shadows are ominous. Not a sunrise, a sunset for us.
Talking about the Sun. My movie script ends with a Sunrise in UTAH. A Sunrise designed to sink in a Hollywood Exec’s head and stay there.
Terrific as akways, Mr. K. Here are the Fuckeries I formulated, scare quotes are justified. In no particular order
1. “Democracy ” — a major stream of fuckery where the techno Oligarchy maintain the illusion we have electoral choice when the truth is the choices are made for us and we serfs happily go along.
2. “Science” — used to fuck us over whenever an appeal to authority or credentials or magical results is needed.
3. “Globalism” — sold as the embodiment of the Coke commercial where the world sings in perfect harmony but is actually the same old imperial colonialism enslaving and exploiting the world fir the benefit of the oligarchs.
4. “Social Justice”– again, sold as empathy and justice for the oppressed when it actually is a bludgeon much like the Inquisition for the unbelievers in Holy Wokedom.
5. “Mass Media” — gee whiz! We can now communicate everything w everyone everywhere all the time while the MK Ultra mind fuckery is embedded in everything we so ravenously lap up. Aka brainwashing, mass formation, mass hysteria.
So, WEF bastion China is experimenting with a digital currency that has (gasp) an expiration date, forcing you to spend. No saving allowed.
As mentioned by some of us nearly three years ago. No savings allowed.
Now in the West, Biden and the EU have announced that digital currencies are coming.
https://twitter.com/ABorealis77/status/1597157878116528128
And the cud-chewers chew. Frogs in a pot.
No worries, it’s all just a giant “conspiracy theory.”
This is the gist of the problem: the many that cannot conceive how eliminating cash and converting to digital currency will make any difference since they will have the same amount of “money” in their bank account.
Got to get as free of the banks as possible.
My friends think China can do no wrong though. How is this possible?
There are 2 China’s/ The China that operates overseas implements win-win and non-interference policy in general. The domestic China,and what it does in case of disruptive challenges to the party, does not feel obligated to answer to western concerns. Which China are they talking about?
I propose that Mr Kunstler employ a one paragraph limit for the comment section. Too many piggyback their mini blogs in the comment section. It reminds me of a narcissistic professor I had in grad school. She wrote longer comments on student papers than the essays themselves.
Then we’ll just write longer paragraphs! The best tool to cope with excess verbiage is to scroll right on by the offending text at high speed! If you have CRS, or “compulsive reader’s syndrome” you might have to try something else…..
“Then we’ll just write longer paragraphs.”
Ha ha! Indeed.
Length has nothing to do with quality, as an isolated comment trait. Some long comments are of the most thoughtful. Many short comments are just empty drive-bys.
If you demand “short” commentary, just become part of the twitter swamp. No development of ideas, no nuance, no intelligence or depth. But lots of name calling and screaming!
Your narcissistic professor at least showed that she’d read the essays.
Fortunately, he’ll most likely ignore this request.
The only thing that would do is cause people to break up their posts.
Doc, this is your biggest problem???
Still, thanks for using the subjunctive correctly.
How can you tell when the media is getting ready to tar and feather someone?
msn.com/en-us/money/companies/elon-musk-posted-a-bizarre-photo-of-his-bedside-table-featuring-2-guns-4-empty-cans-of-caffeine-free-coke-and-a-picture-of-george-washington
Yep, they turn anything into a negative it looks like it’s Elon Musks turn.
Diet coke taste like what I imagine cat piss would taste like.
Hey Redneck, what does cat piss taste like?
I know you drink diet coke.
Diet coke is sooooo bad for you. It’s just carbonated chemicals. I stopped drinking that swill in the 1980s. Ugh, just ugh.
So Elon if being truthful isn’t a very healthy person. I’m guessing he doesn’t drink it, though. Probably just trying to be “folksy.”
What is the evidence that diet soda is harmful?Asking for my stunt double.
For starters:
https://www.pennmedicine.org/updates/blogs/health-and-wellness/2017/march/diet-soda
Sodium is the only one I buy. Well, the stroke stat is something. (Except, who drinks diet sodas? Diabetics and old people…)
I’m not saying it’s healthy. But I think some of these overblown.
Do a google. You’ll get a lot more than this. In any case, 4 of them? Grosssss.
Every weight-conscious consumer I know who drinks diet sodas is bloated like a balloon.
Blechh. Thank goodness we were to poor for candy, empty calories, and a working TV.
Alzaebo, that’s why I quit drinking it initially. I was like, why am I getting fat drinking this stuff?
Switched to water, never looked back.
SO much healthier to drink water than any of that crap.
Pour the fake sugar on some bugs and watch them die.
Now pour real sugar which is also poison but it won’t kill them.
Going to try this with bottle of sucralose.
What Is Sucralose?
Sucralose is a chlorinated sucrose derivative. This means it’s derived from sugar and contains chlorine.
Making sucralose is a multistep process that involves replacing the three hydrogen-oxygen groups of sugar with chlorine atoms. The replacement with chlorine atoms intensifies the sweetness of sucralose.
Originally, sucralose was found through the development of a new insecticide compound. It was never meant to be consumed.
However, it was later introduced as a “natural sugar substitute” to the masses, and people had no idea that the stuff was actually toxic.
In 1998, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved sucralose for use in 15 food and beverage categories, including water-based and fat-based products like baked goods, frozen dairy desserts, chewing gum, beverages and sugar substitutes. Then, in 1999, the FDA expanded its approval for use as a general-purpose sweetener in all categories of foods and beverages.
I have no explanation for why I consume sucralose freely and never even considered a vaccine.
Except that I have much faith in the body to flush minor poisons and invaders without help. Maybe too much.
Imagine how good you might feel, gf, if you cut out that segment of poison?
BLACK N GAY BOMBS
Disney suffered one of its worst theatrical releases ever with its latest animated movie Strange World, which brought in just $18.6 million over the five-day holiday weekend despite being heralded as the first Disney movie to include an openly gay main character.
Strange World had Disney’s second-worst opening weekend ever, behind only the pandemic-era release of West Side Story directed by Steven Spielberg, Variety reported Sunday. Ultimately, Strange World only garnered about half of its projected long weekend revenue.
The film featured a star-studded cast including voice acting from Jake Gyllenhaal, Dennis Quaid, Lucy Liu, and Gabrielle Union, and sported a massive budget between $120 and $130 million, the Daily Mail writes.
Expectations were initially high for Strange World with Disney projecting the film to earn between $30 and $40 million dollars over the long weekend. However, those figures were rapidly, and significantly, revised downwards when it was understood how poorly the movie was performing with audiences.
Disney is slowly committing suicide. When you flip a century-old brand from being synonymous with “wholesome” and “innocent” to being “deviant” and “evil” – well – you run off your customer base.
Folks don’t patronize Arnaud’s in New Orleans because they are hoping to be served a Shit Sandwich. It’s no different with Disney. Either produce wholesome entertainment suitable for all ages or call it a day and close up shop.
If Walt was still living the entire Disney board of directors would already be running for their lives.
Some would argue it never was really wholesome.
On a somewhat related note, JHK’s rundown of Disneyworld in the Geography of Nowhere is still one of my favorite pieces of writing.
“really was”
Perhaps, but the Disney cartoons and feature movies I imbibed as a child in the 1960’s were pretty tame stuff.
Were they?
I bet there was some stuff snuck in still.
Hell, I was watching steamboat willy and there was some stuff in that made for adults.
No, they were not.
They were abysmally emotionally manipulative and traumatizing (Bambi, Dumbo). They had satanic messages & symbols, etc.
Lots of subliminal stuff going on there.
Traditional faery tales tell the Truth at a young child’s level. Mary seems to want PC faery tales.
A Lion at a Zoo was pounding on the glass trying to get at a boy. The boy asked, What is he trying to tell me?
What would you say to him – since he had already been indoctrinated by the Lion King, etc.
A traditional boy would already know about Monsters (animals), Boogie Men (creeps, pervs, evil men), and Witches (evil women).
Wasn’t the Davy Crockett serial from Disney?
Fess Parker?
Bought Fess Parker wine at his winery, once. Fun times.
Spent a wad of cash at Disneyland and the one thing I noticed was nothing is as clean as it used to be.
The food was almost universally bad in places that used to serve good food.
The pleasant helpful staff have all but vanished and been replaced with typical California services slightly bored with a side of annoyed.
The fellow patrons were even more annoying as well as clueless than normal and either wandering around with weird hair colors, tattooed, pierced or no hable ingles.
The amount of obese hideously ugly people running around with mouse ears or some such in their Middle Ages was also disturbing.
I noticed a handful of people wearing Trump gear and zero Biden gear.
When you stumbled on ordinary looking people, we tended to acknowledge each other and roll our eyes at the circus side show freak brigade.
There were a couple of bright spots in Goofies kitchen my granddaughter loved the characters running around and they for the most part stayed in character.
Then she also went to some tea party with the princesses who were all real women not men dressed in drag or pretending to be women and she had fun with that. They were also all very good and stayed in character.
The amount of security guards running you through metal detectors and such got really old to the point I go sick of it.
Disney has been a no go for me for over a decade and it will be at least another decade before I go again if ever.
I miss the Sunday night Disney movies and shows from the 70’s back when the good rides cost an E-ticket and going did not cost an arm and a leg.
How is the neighborhood around Disney? Probably not like it was in 1955, huh? Orlando went from a sleepy southern town in 1970 to an overcrowded, crumbling, crime ridden slum in 2022.
No neighborhoods it’s all commercial and small businesses that cater to the millions of people soon parted with wads of cash.
There were no neighborhoods in 1955.
Disneyland was built out in the farmlands of Anaheim.
Knott’s Berry Farm was also in Anaheim and it was an actual farm back then.
Walt warned us about the Tribe beginning to take over movies. But we didn’t listen. His brother outlived him and was weak, allowing them to get in and ultimately take over.
Some of the family are still shareholders apparently, and don’t like what Disney has become. But there’s not much they can do at this point.
You really seem to like the satanists (which Walt was).
I wonder why.
You might like Christian Science. Mary Baker Eddy was always raving about Black Magicians and animal magnetism too. When sexuality isn’t accepted, it’s demonized. In extreme forms like yours, the whole male sex is demonized, with moral hysteria as the result.
Virgin Queens=Scream Queens.
From Alison Willmore:
“That Strange World’s secondary hero, Ethan, is Black and unmistakably queer (no “exclusively gay moments” here …) is noteworthy. But that development is subordinate to the film’s primary story about how the complete and immediate eradication of fossil fuels is the only way for human life to continue.”
Sounds like the extreme anti-Oil message is what turned the movie into a bomb. People don’t like their cartoon fantasies become an uncomfortable reality check on their “non-negotiable” way of life.
That the message was delivered with a gratuitous lisp attached only added insult to injury.
“People don’t like their cartoon fantasies become an uncomfortable reality check on their “non-negotiable” way of life.”
Or perhaps they are tired of not being able to escape the climate fearmongering propaganda even in Disney Fantasyland.
Or, perhaps it is just a stinker.
Surely the fault must be in us. That Felontavious Faggot will lecture me about climate change should be an irresistible draw for every family.
Next, L’il Felon will star in his very own Disney Drag Queen Story extravaganza! A must-see.
Musk update (re: JHK’s Friday post). Musk is definitely over the target. Drawing this fire more clearly into the open is already a huge benefit to the public of Musk’s Twitter takeover.
httpXX://www.zerohedge.com/political/greenwald-medias-deranged-hysteria-over-elon-musks-promised-restoration-free-speech
It is hard to overstate how manic, primal and unhinged is the reaction of corporate media employees to the mere prospect that new Twitter owner Elon Musk may restore a modicum of greater free speech to that platform. It was easy to predict — back when Musk was merely toying with the idea of buying Twitter and loosening some of its censorship restrictions — that there would be an all-out attack from Western power centers if he tried. Online censorship has become one of the most potent propaganda weapons they possess, and there is no way they will allow anyone to dilute it even mildly without attempting to destroy them. Even with that expectation in place of what was to come, the liberal sector of the corporate media (by far the most dominant media sector) really outdid itself when it came to group-think panic, rhetorical excess, and reckless and shrill accusations. . .. ”
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httpXX://www.zerohedge.com/political/twitter-bans-multiple-antifa-accounts-after-threats-and-attempts-burn-down-tesla
httpXX://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/twitter-suffers-ridiculous-number-psy-ops-elon-musk-says
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Democracy is now White Nationalism! We have to destroy the Village in order to save it. Real Democracy means no free speech.
Real Democracy is the Democratic Party! They are the Science. No need for free speech, just listen.
MQ…I’m not such a bad boy…I don’t bite. We can agree from time to time.
bad boy? I just thought you were semi-deranged.
It’s all good, though.
Only “semi?”
LOL!
Jim, you are great with the big picture as in The Long Emergency and A World Made By Hand. How about the big picture of who wants western Civ destroyed and who profits from the end of western Civ?
I think the very first thing people who really want to understand what’s happening need to do is to dispel any notion that any of this is personal.
It’s not – it’s just business. And for those with long form institutional advantages, 500 years is nothing. But Within that period, nations, people experience ups and downs, and they come and go
So, for those that engineered the current private finance regime 500 years ago, the need for constant growth of the credit money cycle was predicated on population growth, resource surplus and abundant available land.
Since they crafted the system that drove the usuk empire, they of course knew damn well when it would all come crashing down. And knowing that, they would have long ago made preparations for decamping to more promising horizons
The problem is a millenial figure in the form of one v putin has put and end to their little game. No resources for you! Worse, instead of obedient Euro vassals getting the energy, it’s another competing hegemon in the form of China that is going to reset the global order.
And meanwhile both the Euro-vassals and the China-Natives seem be getting restive . . .
Dum dee dum dum . . .
@ mitchellc:
There is quite certainly a group of people who “engineered the current private finance regime” (I’ll take your word for the “500 years ago” part) and “crafted the system that drove the US/UK empire.”
I think you may be overlooking the possibility–or, rather, certainty–that such institutions are not unlike civilizations and state systems: It is at least reasonable to assume that they have a lifespan.
Maybe it’s equally reasonable to assume that they do not (relatively speaking). I.e., it is these parasitical institutions that are the proximate cause of the death of civilizations. Hence, they are not the same kind of organism as a civilization; they are the antithesis of civilization–or, as Nock put it, they are anti-social institutions. Like fleas,, their species-specific longevity may greatly exceed that of the host. Fleas have been around for millions of years. And, as with fleas, the parasitical institutions are the vectors of many pathologies.
But this is an imperfect analogy, since human parasitical institutions are made up of humans, so they may not be capable of the same longevity of their “species” as fleas, parasitical microbes, tapeworms, and the like.
Anyway, it’s possible that these institutions are confronting their own endgame. I can think of a number of reasons why this might be so. One of them is that wealth and power seems to inevitably fall into incompetent (and maybe inbred) hands over generations, eventually falling into the hands of the likes of George W. Bush and Jeb Bush. Another is that they lose touch with reality and start to believe their own bullshit, and/or their hubris gets the better of them.
Another point is that parasites require a host. Historically, once these parasites had killed the host, they could always move on to another. In today’s world, it looks to me like the parasite has wrought death and destruction on such a world-wide basis, that it may have trouble finding another host this time around. That is, the collapse of civilizations looks to be world-wide, or nearly so. About the only viable host left standing is likely to be Russia.
I guess what I’m saying is that these institutions may not be as smart or invincible as they think–or they would like us to think.
For America, we know David Lane and William Pierce said it was “The Jews.” And for the world proper, the Lyndon LaRouche said it was the “British Empire” or CIty of London – his organization not finding any reason or basis to point a blaming finger at an ethnic or a religious group. There is also Kevin MacDonald and his take on Jewish Intellectual movements and their influence on American life and culture which invariably extends out to the rest of the planet.
Taken together, I tend to side with LaRouche and zero in on the London Cult of Oligarchs.
In other words, I know the score.
Fatuous. England was taken over by the Rothschilds long ago. The old man sent his sons to the major European capitals. Obviously London was the most important since England was on top them. After the Battle of Waterloo, Rothschild sent back word that the English had lost to Napoleon. The economy tanked and he bought it up for pennies on the pound.
Why wasn’t he made to give it back? Apparently he was already more powerful than the Crown and the Lords – or too many of them were already in bed with him.
I talked to a learned LaRouchean once. He knew. But LaRouche didn’t want to focus on this so he didn’t either. So since no one wants to be an “anti-Semite”, they remain free to savage us. And so they do.
I don’t read you so don’t bother, Ace.
Your loss, Ham. Other people may so it’s all good.
Well, at least another loser has been outed as a troll. After all, if you disagree with the basic issues of scarcity, why would you spend time at a site devoted to those very principles?
You wouldn’t – youd go somewhere else with like minded people. rather the appeal is to pester and annoy, disrupt and distort, a weird game manifested by a complete lack of contribution.
Mo9n had a flood of trolls a month ago that followed a similar pattern. It had the distinctive form of contrary posturing, but more importantly, nothing positive was ever presented to support their position or be subject to debate.
Now barflies are a bit more savvy, so not only were the trolls outed, but rather routed as a form of sporting good fun. Here, maybe tolerance is an act of pity.
Who are you talking about?
Trolls? Naw. I say they are mere orcs!
What’s your ethnicity there, buddy?
Hi GA
A few threads ago, you offered a link to “Died Suddenly” on the Stew Peters website. I followed your advice and found it illuminating. I also watched the “Flat Earth” article with David Weiss. I just watched it again (or actually, finally completed it) and it was interesting to me that, towards the end (about minute 46), David Weiss shows a map from his app that illustrates how many people are in agreement with him. He also states that these people are anti-vaxxers, which is, I guess, your area of interest. Do you think this is just a coincidence?
Sorry, I’m not familiar with David Weiss or his ‘Flat Earth’ article. Nor am I an anti-vaxxer. So, I can’t really comment.
‘Died Suddenly’ has some flaws, as previously discussed on here. I think the Spanish film, ‘The Big Reset’, is more polished and generally better, as I have also said on here.
Hi again, GA. I’m surprised to read that you’re not an anti-vaxxer. I must have misunderstood somehow or other. Should I have said “anti COVID vaxxer”?
I’m not in favour of proven dangerous injections, no. I’m surprised you would even ask. I mean why me? Pretty much everyone commenting on this site is of the same opinion.
Are you a pro-COVID vaxxer?
And, call me cynical, but I immediately smelled a rat in your bizarre line of questioning. You remind me of a certain ‘Hustler’. Perhaps you think I came up the Firth of Forth on a bicycle.
“Died Suddenly” O yes.
I saw a famous (in his circle) flat earther get annihilated in a simple debate last year. It was pretty hilarious.
I FOUND THIS,
in Houston — I haven’t seen this on the national news but thought you would be interested.
We are on day 2 with no water in Houston, the fourth largest city in America.
Schools and businesses closed.
People scrambling to find bottled water.
How does this happen?
Wow, I had not heard of that, either!
How do you flush the toilet?
u must be kidding.
Thanks for posting! I didn’t hear about this either. Sometimes I get the weather from KHOU 11 when WWL hasn’t posted anything but I didn’t watch them tonight. Wow that’s like 2 million people. Way bigger of a problem than what happened in Jackson just given the number of people effected.
I’ve seen reporting on this water issue in Houston,
How could this happen?
Climate Change & Systemic Racism, what else?
Power outage at a treatment plant.
I just found it on Yahoo. The water isn’t gone – people are being advised to boil it, even though there is apparently no evidence of it being unsafe, because a power outage left levels below the safety level (below which it can’t be guaranteed as pure).
So there is no issue with flushing toilets.
@ GreenAlba:
Boil orders are not uncommon. At my former house, we probably had three boil orders over a period of 20 years. In one case, some heavy equipment that was being used to put in new electrical service accidentally cut one of the water lines. (It seems that the water lines were not mapped correctly.) This led to the discovery that the company that put in the town’s city water had cut some other corners, which also had to be repaired. Another problem with the city water was that the original plan was that water would be stored in the water tower. This proved to be unsafe because water use in that little town was too low to ensure an adequate flow through the water tower. That is, the water was likely to sit up in there long enough to become a reservoir for bacteria and other crap.
Malth…Houston’s a shithole, I would never live there. Just a step up from Jackson MS, where they were they were w/o clean water for a week. Buck up, my man. We’re solidly in The Long Emergency..
Meanwhile, lookie lookie lookie at China! The natives are clearly restless about the gubmint response to the plague they unleashed on the world. Of course, it’s all a hoax, right CFN?
You tell me tom. It all seems a little hoaxy. For example, the lockdowns in China are said to be for prevention of covid but as Tucker pointed out tonight there hasn’t been a covid related death in China this month. Don’t quote me exactly on that but it was some similar statistic and it was mind boggling. So why these dramatic lockdowns? Some say China is perfecting the total survelliance police state that is coming here. Others say the US is already way more authoritarian than China so. In any case its all just basically scary you know.
One of your best blog essays to date for me, Jim!
Thanks. I agree with you. The Aztec example is excellent. I’m also thinking of the late Russian Imperial period around the turn of the last century, complete with political assassinations and revolutionaries. The French Revolution, as well.
The current elite in the US is wholly unprepared and unwilling for the future. This is plain for all to see. What will replace ‘them’ or perhaps ‘it’, is difficult to imagine.
I’m just hoping it doesn’t involve concentration camps or martial music & tank engine sounds, motoring towards Moscow.
@JHK
You write, “this experiment [Covid] ended in disaster”.
Not even; it will have been a complete success. The disease vector was perhaps a failed Plan A. Plan B, the lethal injections will surely solve all the ruling elites’ problems with their longevity.
So, I must ask, WTF? If you are indeed The JHK and not the AI replacement persona for JHK, where does such a statement come from?
“No need to wonder why”, ladies and gents, “we’re all gonna…”
~toktomi~
Well I do still wonder why, even if we are all gonna..
“m.i.c.k.e.y. why? Because we love you.”
Why? Because 8 billion and all the that is required and all that results from our presence threaten the longevity of the ruling elite.
I could be wrong.
~toktomi~
Yes, I do agree that they are definitely trying to get rid of a lot of us so they can establish what they think is their perfect world.
I officially brand Donny Trump a “loser”, ala the 1960 Edsel and the 1961 DeSoto. Go get em in 2024, Donny!
You’re a sucker for abuse, Lil’ T.
Another one fixated by Donald Trump.
It’s almost like you have Terrett’s syndrome in written form.
DDDDDonnnn UUUULLLLD TTTTTEEEERRRRUUUUMMMppp.
I would take both those car’s you called out imagine they are worth some coin now.
Your post on the other hand is worth about nothing.
Poor Edsel. Leave Edsel alone, Tom!
(The local smart alecks said the grille looked like a horse collar.)
It’s weird because I don’t recall thinking of covid as an organism before. A virus is described as almost something like a nano machine that simply assembles new selves. So that definitely caught my attention. With all of the lies around the whole pandemic for all we really know covid could be some weird leech microbe. Maybe that explains the “long covid” phenomenon? Another hypothesis among