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For now, it comes down to this: the US State Department is at war with the White House.  State’s allies in the Democratic majority congress want to help overthrow the occupant of the White House because he’s interfering in the department’s foreign policy. The lifers at State are the same ones who executed a coup in 2014 against Ukraine’s government and threw out the elected president Victor Yanukovych because he tilted to join a Russian-backed regional customs union rather than NATO.  State’s diplomatic lifers are old hands at coups. Now they’re at it at home, right here in the USA.

Ever since the Maidan Revolution of 2014, they have worked sedulously to exert control over Ukrainian affairs. And they especially can’t stand that the recently elected president Zelensky declared that he wants to improve his country’s relationship with next-door-neighbor (and ex-sovereign) Russia. The occupant of the White House, Mr. Trump, had often expressed a similar interest to improve the USA’s relations with Russia. State would prefer to amp up a new cold war. Mr. Trump has some nerve interfering with that!

The lifers at State also have something to hide: their exertions to connive with Ukraine government officials they controlled to interfere in the 2016 US presidential election in favor of their former boss, Mrs. Clinton. The current impeachment spectacle is an attempt to pitch a smokescreen over that embarrassing mess, which includes the CIA’s and FBI’s efforts to blame Russia for their own illegal interventions in the 2016 election — the heart of the three-year impeachment narrative. The Joe-and-Hunter Biden affair is the left anterior descending artery in that heart.

The current testimony in the House Intel Committee raises another question. Whose back-channel diplomats are legitimate in US foreign policy: Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudolph Giuliani, or State’s own boy, billionaire freelance international political adventurer George Soros? The president dispatched Mr. Giuliani to Ukraine because he didn’t trust the State lifers to get to the bottom of the mischief emanating from Kiev during the 2016 election, in which State lifers played an active role, along with Mr. Soros and his agents — in particular an outfit called the AntiCorruption Action Center, jointly funded by Mr. Soros and State (i.e. US taxpayers).

Mr. Soros’s AntiCorruption Action Center was one entity that then US Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch submitted to Ukraine’s then General Prosecutor Yuriy Lutsenko on a “do not investigate” list, according to reporter John Solomon (story here). Solomon writes:

In other words, State was confirming its own embassy had engaged in pressure on Ukrainian prosecutors to drop certain law enforcement cases, just as Lutsenko and other Ukrainian officials had alleged…. More recently, George Kent, the embassy’s charge d’affaires in 2016 and now a deputy assistant secretary of state, confirmed in impeachment testimony that he personally signed the April 2016 letter demanding Ukraine drop the case against the Anti-Corruption Action Centre.

Translation: an activist US embassy meddled in Ukraine’s internal political affairs. That’s a breach of international law. No doubt Marie Yovanovitch will be asked about these matters starting in about 15 minutes from as I write. Mr. Soros funded a network of nonprofits operating in Ukraine going back a decade, including the International Renaissance Foundation, the Open Society Foundation, Project Syndicate, and the CIA-connected Atlantic Council, which also received millions in support from Ukrainian gas pipe oligarch Victor Pinchuk. (Guess who else is a consort of the Atlantic Council — International Man of Mystery and 2016 election meddler Joseph Mifsud.) In 2015, Pinchuk paid $150,000 to Donald Trump’s foundation for Mr. Trump to speak by video-link to a Kiev conference for strengthening Ukraine’s ties to the West. At the same time, Pinchuk had contributed $25 million to the Clinton Foundation.

As you can see, the relationship between Ukraine and the USA since 2012 has developed more rabbit holes than Watership Down. Ukraine also happens to be an economic basket-case with a GDP equal to about half the GDP of Connecticut. Poor Ukraine, a semi-failed state of our own making, used by the State Department as a launching pad for intrigues against both Russia and the President of the United States. Maybe Mr. Trump sincerely wants to clean up that mess and shut down the State Department’s rogue outside operations channel as represented by George Soros. If only they can get rid of Mr. Trump, wouldn’t that make everything just peachy again? (Though probably not so much for Ukraine.)

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512 Responses to “The Deep State’s Deep State Department”

  1. ellipsis November 15, 2019 at 9:59 am #

    For now, it comes down to this: the US State Department is at war with the White House. State’s allies in the Democratic majority congress want to help overthrow the occupant of the White House because he’s interfering in the department’s foreign policy. The lifers at State are the same ones who executed a coup in 2014 against Ukraine’s government and threw out the elected president Victor Yanukovych because he tilted to join a Russian-backed regional customs union rather than NATO. State’s diplomatic lifers are old hands at coups. Now they’re at it at home, right here in the USA.

    Finally, someone who actually gets it! Great job Jim!

    • ellipsis November 15, 2019 at 10:05 am #

      To add, while State might be able to control the political narrative here at home and they might even be able to get away with impeaching Trump, they certainly can’t control the political narratives of the countries they subvert overseas, and there’s even a CIA coined name for what is happening in those realms as we speak, but which is only now getting ramped up in earnest: blowback. The illegitimate DC globalist empire’s day of reckoning is rapidly approaching now.

      • Walter B November 15, 2019 at 10:28 am #

        I have no doubt that you are correct ellipsis and the BRICS nations have been working on alienating US(A) and our petro-dollar for a decade or two already. The poor, unobservant American public has limited to no ability to see things that move slowly or to understand anything that is played out that is not blatant and obvious. Nothing lasts forever and neither shall our demented dysfunctional system.

        • Nightowl November 15, 2019 at 11:07 am #

          Yes, but what do you expect from a system that feeds the public lies and narratives engineered to achieve specific outcomes?

          The number of documented lies and manipulations in the corporate press in just the past 3 years alone is staggering. Are normal people with daily routines, families, etc. supposed to fact check the corporate press on an hourly basis? How many believed CNN when they claimed public was not allowed to read materials at Wikileaks? And that they could only get such info. through the press filter?

          Seeing past this requires critical thinking, an understanding of the history of propaganda, and an interest in current affairs (and history) that few have. Prior to the Internet, it was not possible to get much of the information we access now, or even be made aware of its existence.

          They don’t stand a chance in a system that has tipped to the point that ours has.

        • shotho November 16, 2019 at 8:55 am #

          The petro-dollar should have died a long time ago. It is the source of so much that’s wrong with today’s world. Being tied to rogue regimes like Saudi Arabia has led to astounding turmoil in the Middle East, the unleashing of Islam and destruction of Western Civilization. It is also at the heart of the phenomenal credit system that has beggared almost every advanced nation in the world and many of those not very advanced; all in the name of holy oil. Of course, its destruction would lead to a collapse of the “American way of life”, a monster which should have been slain a long time ago.

      • abbybwood November 15, 2019 at 6:36 pm #

        They may be able to “impeach” him but the Republican Senate will never remove him.

        If the criminals at The State Department and FBI and CIA are brought down for their attempted coup against a legally elected president then I think even millions of Democrats will help Trump get re-elected in a landslide.

        • Walter B November 16, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

          I am pretty much convinced that this is their plan and it is made even more plausible by the total lack of a viable candidate on the democratic side. Only the totally mindless will flock to the Trump Sucks banner and those who do will frighten and turn more to him than against him. Like I said, that’s probably the plan. Plausible deniability.

    • Nightowl November 15, 2019 at 10:18 am #

      Another notable person that folks here might like/read who is dropping quite a bit of truth lately is Matt Taibbi.

      His Twitter has, of course, now been overrun with nutters in the comments, all pushing the usual Brock-style ad hominems.

      Anyways, great post today from JHK. While we are on the subject of the Ukraine, I’d like to find out exactly who put the snipers on the Maidan, too.

      • K-Dog November 15, 2019 at 10:29 am #

        And while we are at it I’d like to say hello to my visitors in Ukraine who visit me every day. Whoever you are in Zaporizhia and Lviv; even if by deep proxy.

      • lateStarter November 15, 2019 at 10:33 am #

        Love reading Matt Taibbi. I never read the comments to his posts.

        He like our host here (and even JMG) , understand what is going down and even though they don’t like Trump, realize we are heading into dangerous waters.

        • Nightowl November 15, 2019 at 10:46 am #

          There are certainly things to dislike about Trump, but I had to admit to myself quite some time ago, that on policy, he is doing a number of things that classical liberals have been calling for for decades. And he sees the threat.

          I can’t find the words to express what we face from this DS/Big Tech/media combine. Never thought I’d live to see anything even remotely resembling this. It is truly horrifying.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 15, 2019 at 12:16 pm #

            Trump’s afraid of them and isn’t going to do anything. He was part of a “conference” about the issue of free speech, and there was not even one critic of Big Tech present. Only “winners”.

            If the Trump family really wants to make a long term difference, maybe staring a new network would have been the way to go – as a precursor to starting a new party.

      • Billy Hill November 17, 2019 at 11:37 am #

        Answer to Nightowl above re snipers on the Maidan…

        I recommend an interview of Oleg Tsarev by Israel Shamir, originally in the Unz review and reprinted by Zero Hedge. Assuming that the truth is being told here (which is difficult in matters Ukrainian) and can be proven Joe Biden is headed to jail without passing Go or collecting 200 dollars. Others may very well join him.

        The end of the article/interview concerns one Audrius Butkevicius. I will copy/paste only a snippet:

        One of the best Ukrainian corruption stories is connected with Audrius Butkevicius, the former Minister of Defence (1996 to 2000) and a Member of the Seimas (Parliament) of post- Soviet Lithuania. Mr AB is supposedly working for MI6, and now is a member of the notorious Institute for Statecraft, a UK deep state propaganda outfit involved in disinformation operations, subversion of the democratic process and promoting Russophobia and the idea of a new cold war. In 1991 he commanded snipers that shoot Lithuanian protesters. The kills were ascribed to the Soviet armed forces, and the last Soviet President Mr Gorbachev ordered speedy withdrawal of his troops from Lithuania. Mr AB became the Minister of Defence
        of his independent nation. In 1997 the Honourable Minister of Defence “had requested 300,000 USD from a senior executive of a troubled oil company for his assistance in obtaining the discontinuance of criminal proceedings concerning the company’s vast debts”, in the language of the court judgement. He was arrested on receipt of the bribe, had been sentenced to five years of jail, but a man with such qualifications was not left to rot in a prison.
        ?In 2005 he commanded the snipers who killed protesters in Kyrgyzstan, in Georgia he repeated the feat in 2003 during the Rose Revolution. In 2014 he did it again in Kiev, where his snipers killed around a hundred men, protesters and police. He was brought to Kiev by Mr Turchinov, who called himself the “acting President” and who countersigned Joe Biden’s billion dollars’ grant.

        • Nightowl November 17, 2019 at 1:45 pm #

          Thanks for that.

    • Walter B November 15, 2019 at 10:23 am #

      Yes indeed he does! Mr. Trump is fortunate that he probably has enough friends in organized crime to prevent a repeat of Dealy Plaza which I am sure Hillary and her spook friends would love to pull off.

      • lateStarter November 15, 2019 at 10:40 am #

        Do you think it is even possible to get rid of the spooks (or at least minimize their control) or does it all just need to crash and burn first?

        • Walter B November 15, 2019 at 1:34 pm #

          Crash and burn baby!

    • 4014HAMPHEDGE November 15, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

      Its about Globalization. And Islam is all for Globalization because they are experts at insinuating themselves into families, neighborhoods and nations. You want Globalization? Let the Religion of Peace help out!

      This is why Islam was the welcome religion of choice with the Clinton & Obama administrations and why their military/covert orgs did away with any descriptors of Islam in training literature or policy manuals.

      And that is why Obama colluded with Merkel to threaten the “Red Line”, back off and allow chaos– set up for Merkel to roll out the red carpet for Islam to finish off takeover of Europe, stalled by Charles Martell… And, as an aside, why General Flynn was first on the 2016 election hit list: see his book on Islam…

      Globalization is the rule of the day, as you heard Mme Pelosi state this week.

      • Beryl of Oyl November 15, 2019 at 12:49 pm #

        Didn’t getting rid of Muammar Gaddafi remove one more obstacle to the invasion of Europe?
        Someone told me that one time, but I am not all that well informed on North African affairs and couldn’t remember why this would be so.

        Know what else helped push their agenda?
        A handy dandy secret basement server, which the president said he didn’t know about, except he did.

        That server also served as a high tech dead drop.
        Want information? Write your check (but that would be electronic too) to the Clinton Foundation, and as a token of appreciation, you get your very own passwords.

        The mainstream media knew that the excuse about not carrying two phones was a whopper.
        The thing to do would have been to interview the guy who installed that server, to see what reason he was fgiven for doing so.
        Any person capable of installing a server would have set the old lady straight on the lack of need for a private server.
        But nobody talked to him, he lawyered up, and he was given immunity during that email “investigation”, in return for nothing.

        • abbybwood November 15, 2019 at 3:28 pm #

          And Gaddafi warned the world that getting rid of him and his strong arm against terrorists would indeed open up Europe for an invasion.

          There was a good reason Hillary Clinton was downright gleeful when Gaddafi had his insides ripped apart through a machete up his ass: “We came, we saw, he died. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, cackle, cackle, cackle!!!”

          Mission accomplished. Libya is a failed state now with open slave trading.

          • Ishabaka November 15, 2019 at 4:18 pm #

            It would be funny if it wasn’t so tragic that one of the legacies of America’s first black president is the re-establishment of the Arab slave trade.

          • Nightowl November 17, 2019 at 3:05 am #

            She was just playing her role, IMO.

            Libya was part of the neocon/lib 7-Countries Strategy. PNAC cronies are more or less the deep state, IMO.

        • toktomi November 16, 2019 at 1:52 am #

          @ bare Olive Oil

          “Didn’t getting rid of Muammar Gaddafi” have absolutely nothing to do with gold?


      • abbybwood November 15, 2019 at 2:25 pm #

        This is why the globalist Soros is backing Warren. She is Hillary 2.0.

        The idea is for her to steal all of Bernie’s support early so there can’t be any embarrassing events at the convention like in 2016 when Bernie “stayed in too long” and the DNC turned the lights off with his delegates.

        Warren is a major kisser of Hillary’s ring and goes to her often for “consultations”.

        Once Warren gets the nomination to break that damn glass ceiling she will quickly become a moderate but the American voters will see through all her lying bullshit and will re-elect Trump in a landslide.

        I would NEVER vote for Warren (and I was a Democrat for most of my life) for many reasons, her lying is a big one.

        But the main reason I will work to see she never wins is her “respect” for the lying, corrupt criminal Hillary Rodham Clinton.

        To imagine that if elected President, Warren would make Hillary her Kissinger confidant makes me sick.

        • Majella November 16, 2019 at 1:44 am #

          ‘I would NEVER vote for Warren (and I was a Democrat for most of my life) for many reasons, her lying is a big one.‘

          Abby, i would genuinely like to know how Warren’s lies are so disqualifying against Trump, who lies publicly everyday – in many cases, multiple times?

          • abbybwood November 16, 2019 at 12:45 pm #

            It is very simple to explain.

            If she is obviously comfortable about lying regarding her special racial status to become a special professor at Harvard, and is she will lie about being fired as a teacher because she was pregnant (the poor victim!), then what else will she lie about?

            I would never want a partner/friend who is a liar, and I certainly do not want a liar to become president.

            Trump may be a liar as well, but my goal now as a former Democrat is to help deep-six the Democrat party once and for all. By rejecting them and their total corruption, I see voting AGAINST them as the only way this will ever happen.

    • HapMan November 16, 2019 at 4:58 pm #

      OK, so the State Department is at war with/engaged in a coup against Trump. That is the assertion in the first paragraph. The rest of the post then goes in a completely different direction, essentially laying out a narrative about State Department mischief in Ukraine and associated conspiracy theories relating to Soros, as if that explains it. Which it doesn’t.

      If the State Department were at war with Trump, why aren’t Trump’s Republican Congressional defenders pointing to particular lies, deceptions and illegalities by Taylor, Kent et al in providing this testimony, or otherwise in engaging in activities aimed in particular at Trump? Because if they were at war with Trump, wouldn’t they be doing something more anti-Trump than simply testifying as to facts under oath in full view of Congress and the public? Claiming as Jim does that State was up to no good in Ukraine in previous years is not the same thing as saying they are engaged in war against or even opposition to Trump. Even Nunes and crew can’t go that far – they are hanging their hat on attacking Democrats’ motives, arguing that Trump’s conduct was not impeachable and deflecting to the Bidens.

      That said, these public servants are alarmed by Trump’s insane behavior – specifically holding up our national interests and official policy in Ukraine over a domestic political vendetta – and are coming forward under subpoena with the facts underlying their concerns, which it is their right and duty to do.

  2. K-Dog November 15, 2019 at 9:59 am #

    This is good. I did not have my hopes up and am impressed. The deep state has its own agenda. Everything else is theatre. The lizard people are on the rise but I think they wish it was as easy here as in Bolivia.

    • ellipsis November 15, 2019 at 10:13 am #

      A good rat terrier or two will usually deter most lizards. Although, I think our problem is mostly just rats. Big fat ones.

      • K-Dog November 15, 2019 at 10:20 am #

        I recall in ‘Earth Abides‘ as nature unbalanced reclaimed Oakland, a sea of rats swept over a burgeoning army of rat terriers leaving only a white pile of bones. Before all the rats starved to death and were gone.

  3. stelmosfire November 15, 2019 at 10:24 am #

    i had two yorkies and they were mean sons of bitches.. Ratters to the bone.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 15, 2019 at 12:51 pm #

      My cat won’t even be bothered with the occasional mouse that enters the home.

      • Robert White November 15, 2019 at 3:27 pm #

        Your cat is a Taoist, likely.

        Any good Experimental Psychologist would simply try a younger cat when the older cat goes AWOL on mouse duty.


  4. JustSaying November 15, 2019 at 10:25 am #

    Great work! Yes, they do run the serious risk that their agenda is now exposed. And it is a convoluted history that I don’t think most Americans understand or care to understand.

    The USA is a lost cause: Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch’intrate”…

    • K-Dog November 15, 2019 at 10:41 am #

      A convoluted history that I don’t think most Americans understand or care to understand.

      Regression to an infantile mental state is an effective way to maintain ignorance and ignorance will be maintained. The truth is too hard for Joe to grok. Deep secrets are buried deep : Cù a speranza seranu dudevule cum’è e pecure.

    • sprawlcapital November 15, 2019 at 10:45 am #

      Tranlation, please, Just Sayin. My Latin is not that good, or is it Italian?

      Great post, Jim. We were set on this path by the Dulles brothers at CIA and State. Study their lives;;it explains a lot.

      • K-Dog November 15, 2019 at 1:06 pm #


        • capt spaulding November 16, 2019 at 1:08 pm #

          “grok” is actually from Robert Heinlein.

          • sprawlcapital November 16, 2019 at 5:20 pm #

            From the novel Stranger in a Strange Land, if I remember correctly.

      • Uncle Bob November 15, 2019 at 2:49 pm #

        It goes back further than that — to the Progressive Era, when it became fashionable to want “experts” who would be faithful to shared goals and policies. In this way, a second government was superimposed over the one mandated by the Constitution. Thus, we have a non-governmental banking cartel called the Federal Reserve System basically running our (and ther world’s) economy, while bureaucrats create rules and policies that they then enforce as if they’re statutory law.

        This lying, sniveling ambassador was supposed to have been fired more than a year before she was. The State Department dragged its feet because 1) she was involved in Soros’ and State’s shenanigans, and 2) Trump has no say in how the Umited States does anything — after all, he’s just the President. That he’s being impeached for inadvertently pulling on threads the Deep State wants left alone speaks volumes about our country’s condition.

        • abbybwood November 15, 2019 at 3:38 pm #

          Obviously there was a good reason the slimes in Congress snuck off to Jekyll Island for their secret soirée regarding the formation of The Federal Reserve then voted it in late at night while the others were home for Christmas.

          They even put disguises on and rode in a train with the windows blacked out.

          There have been a few documentaries made about this sinister game. Long past due for some courageous Hollywood producers and actors to bring that story to life on the big screen.

      • Majella November 16, 2019 at 1:47 am #

        The Italian is easy – from Dante’s Inferno ‘abandon hope all ye who enter here’
        My ‘Croatian’ is a bit thin, but I think it has the same meaning.

    • Epicur November 15, 2019 at 11:40 am #

      “And it is a convoluted history that I don’t think most Americans understand or care to understand. ”

      I will plead guilty to the “don’t…understand”.

      Ever since Libya and then the Syrian “rat-lines” I am just mystified by what is going on. What the hell can these people think they are going to accomplish?

      Pushing NATO to the borders of Russia was as realistic as believing we were going to make a liberal democracy out of Iraq. Expecting the Russians to NOT respond to pushing NATO to their border is just loony.

      Iraq, I partly understand. “W” Bush is a religious believer and was convinced he needed to forestall Armageddon, but I still don’t understand how the rest of the supposedly rational people who went along thought they could accomplish anything positive.

      “We” have sown the wind – that much I understand.

      • Beryl of Oyl November 15, 2019 at 12:56 pm #

        They swallow the ‘talking points’ the media provides.
        There are a lot of Rackets that depend on these military incursions.
        Big money, 1/10th of 1 percent Rackets.
        I heard one woman on PBS, this was probably back before Obama, who complained about one of the giant multinationals moving in and privatizing the water in Iraq, I think it was.
        I don’t know if that was true or if it is still true. I’m neglecting my own life and responsibilities as it is, trying to figure out WHAT HAPPENED, and I don’t mean to Hillary’s campaign.

      • abbybwood November 15, 2019 at 3:44 pm #

        Maybe Putin should cozy up to the Mexican government and offer to come in with lots of money and weapons and advisors to help them with their war against the drug cartels??

        I should think the U.S. would appreciate the help!


    • Janos Skorenzy November 15, 2019 at 12:19 pm #

      If most Americans (or most anybody) were given all the facts, they’d still get it wrong. Clear thinking is the province of the few and from this we should realize that voting should be as well.

  5. lateStarter November 15, 2019 at 10:29 am #

    I’m really curious which way the military will lean when push comes to shove. I’m not so sure they would side with the deep-state. I’m sure there are a lot of competent Colonels and even Generals that are tired of being directed by the spooks in the CIA and their allies in the state department (who know what is best /s).

    Any speculation on what direction they may go?

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    • Nightowl November 15, 2019 at 10:53 am #

      Read up on Gen. Mike Flynn and Adm. Mike Rogers (credited for informing Trump about Obama’s/5EYE’s surveillance efforts).

      There is lots of speculation about what is and has been going on in the IC and among miltary brass.

    • lateStarter November 15, 2019 at 11:00 am #

      Right. As long as funds are diverted to the right places, it continues on. I still have hope that there exists a lower layer of commanders who are slowly building an organization that are opposed to the current grift and would be prepared to take things in another direction.

      • Ron Anselmo November 15, 2019 at 11:11 am #

        The organization already exists – Oath Keepers.

        • lateStarter November 15, 2019 at 11:28 am #

          I have to admit that although I have heard about them, I have not checked their agenda. Are they open enought to at least check their public agenda?

        • Janos Skorenzy November 15, 2019 at 12:24 pm #

          They are Anti-White Fox News type conservatives who want less government, not understanding that means direct rule by those who already control the government – namely the International Bankers and Corporations.

          Liberalism teaches that Whites are unspeakably evil and that any White pride is “racism” and such people need to be purged. Conservatism accept Liberalism as its moral authority and believes the same thing. That’s the Oaf Keepers.

      • malthuss November 15, 2019 at 11:24 am #

        When do the funds stop buying much?

      • abbybwood November 15, 2019 at 3:57 pm #

        One major problem is the “compartmentalization” that has been going on.

        Everything at The State Department, Intel and in the highest levels of the military is done on a “need to know” basis which is why the right hand will never know what the left hand is doing.

        Just getting down into the weeds on 9/11 we quickly learned that there were so many different war games going on that morning that that was one of the reasons the various airport control towers kept saying, “Is this real world or exercise?” when asked to send up Air Force jets to bring the hijacked planes down.

        The Deep State players and their related think tanks have figured out the best ways to keep themselves unaccountable to Congress and the American people.

        Of course, Congress is playing the same game by financing it all with our tax dollars.

        Never give a sucker an even break, eh?

    • Epicur November 15, 2019 at 11:54 am #

      My limited exposure to dealing with both departments (State and Defense) demonstrated one thing – they see each other as their main competitors. Each tries to one-up the other and prove who is the most important in dealing with foreign affairs. Each is constantly trying to out “tough guy” the other.

      • Nightowl November 15, 2019 at 1:50 pm #

        I wouldn’t doubt it. I have a family member in one of those departments, and your description reminds me very much of that person.

        DC is full of these types.

        • abbybwood November 15, 2019 at 4:11 pm #

          There is an obvious coup in play right before our eyes on many levels.

          Trump says the military is pulling out of Syria and a General has a presser and says, “No. We are leaving 800 troops in”.

          Most Americans could not find Idlib on a map, yet Trump was warned not to bomb Idlib because the “moderate rebels” were there STILL on a mission to overthrow Assad.

          And guess where they found Bagdadi? Idlib!!!


          • Nightowl November 17, 2019 at 3:28 am #

            I’ve always loved that term. Another media-created anchor word to keep viewers firmly in the narrative.

  6. SW November 15, 2019 at 10:34 am #

    I watched the hearings on Wednesday and had to wonder — is someone paying Adam Schiff to destroy the Democratic Party? Because if they are, he deserves a bonus. He doesn’t seem to realize without the completion of a “crime” there is no case and equally important, most people (including Democrats) couldn’t locate Ukraine on a map and don’t want to. They couldn’t care less what Trump said to their president whom they’ve never heard of and never want to again. But they do understand this very well — people in power use that power to advance themselves, get favors, build wealth, wield influence and destroy others. And this includes holier-than-thou Adam Schiff and should-have-retired-a-long-time-ago Joe Biden.

    • K-Dog November 15, 2019 at 11:00 am #

      Before becoming President, in May, Volodymyr Zelensky played one on a satirical TV show.

      “Politics is like bad cinema—people overact,” he says. “I look at things like a producer.”

      Nobody considers the context. So intent on everybody riding on their own hobby-horse. An impeachment that rests on a conversation between two accomplished jokers is embarrassing.

      With Trump the problem is that his jokes cross over into reality so he’s not funny. But Volodymyr Zelensky is an accomplished and interesting man so in their conversion who was playing whom? If I was Volodymyr I’d have let Trump play his fishing line out too. Let him percolate his blubber and tire himself out.

      They were both having fun.

    • ellipsis November 16, 2019 at 7:18 am #

      He doesn’t seem to realize without the completion of a “crime” there is no case…

      Exactly. Something that’s been totally lost in all of this. Whatever other stupidity Trump committed here, he didn’t go through with the act, therefore there was no “crime” to investigate. Although it should be noted, Biden’s actually on tape committing that very same quid pro quo crime with regard to the Ukrainian prosecutor. They’ve really got some big brass ones for going through with this whole charade.

      • Nightowl November 17, 2019 at 3:40 am #

        Biden’s case would appear to go beyond quid pro quo. He, by his own admission, actively forced the firing of a prosecutor who was already investigating Hunter Biden.

        Furthermore, Yovanovitch inadvertently admitted in her testimony the other day that the Obama WH was concerned about HB’s activities with Burisma.

  7. benr November 15, 2019 at 10:47 am #

    How dare you!



    • EvelynV November 15, 2019 at 2:31 pm #

      She needs to give the same schlock presentation to an audience in Venice.

      Other than her ludicrous hair she’s attractive although looking like she’s tending to become anorexic compared to her younger self.

      Couldn’t make it through her ten points but what I heard was thin gruel. She exaggerates what scientists have warned about in the recent past and fails to point out how much of what they have been warning about is occurring right on schedule.

      Shrewd enough to know dim bulbs like you will cash in their waning supply of testosterone to wage battle against their own limited intelligences (such as they are),

      • benr November 15, 2019 at 5:50 pm #

        Venice floods and has always flooded you know them canals are really a thing!

        The rest of your statement was a sad reflection of your own jealousy nothing more.

        • EvelynV November 15, 2019 at 6:50 pm #

          Now everyone can understand my use of the word “limited”.

          • benr November 15, 2019 at 11:23 pm #

            Or your projection issues and show a complete lack of understanding history or the propaganda being spewed.

            As this article clearly shows you are a troll and a dunce.


          • EvelynV November 15, 2019 at 11:34 pm #


            You are kind of an idiot aren’t you. Did I make a claim about Venice that warrants you shitting your pants the way you are doing???!!

          • benr November 16, 2019 at 11:24 am #

            methinks you doth protest to much.

          • GreenAlba November 16, 2019 at 12:49 pm #

            Methinks thou dost not know much archaic grammar. 🙂

  8. cc rider November 15, 2019 at 10:49 am #

    I’ll just say up front here that I am not a fan of Giuliani, and haven’t been for a long time. I think he is slimy and has a real problem with truth. Back in the 90s I did not have this viewpoint because by and large I thought he was a good mayor for NYC. I think he really played a large role in cleaning up the mess, to put it mildly, left over from prior mayors. But I cringed when I heard the first time that Trump had appointed Giuliani to be his lawyer and in reality a top adviser.

    I’ve watched up to now today’s hearing featuring Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch. I will wait until today’s proceedings have concluded before I decide how credible she is, but so far I have to say that I am not happy with the smear campaign that was instituted against her with Giuliani being the chief attack dog this past Spring. I do agree that a President has the right to select and de-select any Ambassador at any time. I do not think it is right to smear one publicly before removing him or her.

    • JohnAZ November 15, 2019 at 11:02 am #

      Why is it when everyone in the world can smear Trump and the Deplorables, that is just fine. But when they try to fight back, OMG. Yovanovitch is a lackey for the lifer Deep State and she is getting exactly what she deserves when she decided to back up the Deep State’s positions. To Trump, she is the enemy and will be treated as such.

      This IS civil war we are witnessing. So far, Civil.

      • Nightowl November 15, 2019 at 11:20 am #

        She is a nobody. The “star witnessess” were already questioned and produced nothing.

        Watch these and tell me you are not entertained:


        The D Rep. claiming hearsay was more valuable than first-hand info. was also comedy gold. You could not make this stuff up.

        • cc rider November 15, 2019 at 12:58 pm #

          I am now watching the Republican’s turn to ask questions and I think Mr. Nunes did make a pretty good point that…….Well, basically questioning why she is even there.

          Of course it is most likely for theater.

        • abbybwood November 15, 2019 at 4:25 pm #

          Too bad SNL will not do some great writing to put this all into its proper context. THAT would funny.

          Instead they have become so hyper-partisan that the show is not even close to being funny.

          Too bad. The writers and actors would have a better time if they were objective. The audience too.

          • Nightowl November 16, 2019 at 3:10 pm #

            The hyperpartisanism fits. Dunces entertaining dunces.

            The show hasn’t been funny since Phil Hartman left. RIP.

      • Uncle Bob November 15, 2019 at 2:57 pm #

        Agreed, John. She said she wouldn’t speak about various subjects because she doesn’t have firsthand knowledge of the events, then bloviated for what seemed like weeks about things she had just said she doesnt know. Whatever it takes to get rid of the Orange Hand Grenade so we can go back to corrupt business as usual, I guess.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 15, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

      Rudy did the job of bringing that Mueller mess to an end.
      People grew upset when he said he was going to negotiate, but Rudy’s idea of negotiation is different from yours and mine.
      If you are going to fight the slimy denizens of the Swamp, you need someone who understands how to crawl in dark places.
      Rudy almost literally went toe to toe with the Underworld.

      I think when somone in a high position of trust abuses that position, she should be tarred and feathered and run out of town on a rail.
      We don’t do that kind of thing anymore, but a little public shaming was certainly in order.

    • cc rider November 16, 2019 at 8:19 am #

      I’m getting the bigger picture now on Ms. Yovanovitch. I originally posted yesterday before reading JHK’s current post. I’m now aware of the Soros connection.

      I do now wonder why no Republican asked her about this at the hearing. But, most likely Schiff wouldn’t have allowed it anyway.

  9. Robert White November 15, 2019 at 10:59 am #

    Jim, I appreciate your perspective, and the fact that The Duck does have a position of his own outside of interpretation left to Democrats, and left leaning pundits. Unfortunately, what appears to be most salient is the position taken by the State and the Democrat punditry in that The Duck did indeed attempt to subvert the democratic process via his dirty tricks campaign to dig up dirt on a political rival.

    Taking the side of the Deep State, and Democrat punditry is easy to do given that The Duck is a serial liar & confidence man that is trusted by no one except his extremely blinkered & biased sycophantic throngs of populists & deplorables en masse. Running defence for such an individual is a lesson in ham-fisted clusterfuckery IMHO.

    You are my absolute favorite USA writer but when you run defence for The Duck it is lackluster political positioning if we are to think pragmatically and consider that The Duck is a career criminal politician that has blown Tricky Dick out-of-the-water when it comes to high crimes of office.

    In brief, The Deep State is right to frag that motherfucker right out of office IMHO.


    • lateStarter November 15, 2019 at 11:07 am #

      RW, please point me to the last President that met your standards.

      I think what our host is concerned about is precedent. Will all future presidents have to be approved by the spooks/deep-state?

      • Robert White November 15, 2019 at 11:12 am #

        Dwight D. Eisenhower


        • lateStarter November 15, 2019 at 11:24 am #

          Fair enough. That is what I expected. I think he was overwhelmed though by the Dulles brothers. Even Morris Berman admits that his original assessment of Dwight (in DAA) might have been a bit naive.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 15, 2019 at 12:27 pm #

          A War Criminal who killed hundreds of thousands of German POWs. A lackey for Bernard Baruch, Elder of the nascent New World Order.

          • Robert White November 15, 2019 at 2:21 pm #

            Janos, I ushered in the New World Disorder as corollary to the nascent New World Order back in 08.

            New World Disorder rendered the New World Order completely unworkable across the Western Banking Empire.

            Robert White = 1

            New World Disorder = 0


    • Minnie Van Horne November 15, 2019 at 11:51 am #

      Why is it wrong for a US president to attempt to root out corruption at the highest levels of the American government? Bill Clinton signed an agreement with the Ukraine in 1999 that the two countries would offer each other assistance in such matters.

      If Joe Biden was selling influence through his son Hunter in the Ukraine (I am confident he is not the only Swamp figure doing so, and I believe other brand-name DC political figures are doing this in many other countries as well), then why should the behavior remain concealed from the American public?

      Does the electorate not have the right to know what its politicians are up to, especially when they have plans to occupy the White House?

      • Nightowl November 15, 2019 at 1:54 pm #

        IIRC, Pelosi, Kerry, Biden, and one other top DNCer (whose name I can’t recall) all have spawn involved with energy companies in the Ukraine.

        • Minnie Van Horne November 15, 2019 at 2:07 pm #

          Plus, the interesting detail that will surprise exactly nobody: the Clinton Foundation received many millions in donations from Ukraine in the aftermath of the coup. At the moment I can’t remember if the money came from Burisma or from the Ukrainian government.

          • Nightowl November 15, 2019 at 2:28 pm #

            Ukraine was far and away the top donor, IIRC.

        • abbybwood November 15, 2019 at 6:45 pm #

          Victoria Nuland, Hillary’s right hand gal at State?

          When the snipers were murdering protesters in Maidan Square Nuland was there handing out cookies.

          For real.

    • EvelynV November 15, 2019 at 11:52 am #

      Well put!

      • EvelynV November 15, 2019 at 12:03 pm #

        Ouch, that “well put” not meant for you. Meant for Robert White.

      • Minnie Van Horne November 15, 2019 at 1:45 pm #

        Another question that arises is the subject of the DNC computer server, which President Trump discussed with the president of Ukraine in the famous phone call.

        The DNC server is the one that was allegedly “hacked” by the Russians. It is at the root of the the RussiaGate / Russian Collusion investigation. Yet, curiously, America’s 17 intelligence agencies never examined the server and the server itself is now in Ukraine. The only entity that has examined the server is a Democrat-affiliated company called Crowdstrike, which is also connected with the Ukraine. Crowdstrike is supposedly the source for the charge that “Russia hacked the server.”

        Why is it that the DNC server as a subject of the phone call is virtually never mentioned? Why is our attention being deflected to other, rather curious matters?

      • benr November 15, 2019 at 2:26 pm #


        Says one troll to the other.

    • sunburstsoldier November 15, 2019 at 11:59 am #

      You should have said ‘not’ easy to do…Jim is not one who suffers fools gladly…

      • sunburstsoldier November 15, 2019 at 12:09 pm #

        Also for RW…

        • Robert White November 15, 2019 at 4:13 pm #

          Jim has already washed my face in snow, sunburstsoldier.


    • Majella November 15, 2019 at 12:11 pm #

      Here’s how interested in fighting corruption Trump & His Clan are:


    • Janos Skorenzy November 15, 2019 at 12:28 pm #

      The Duck? Can you explain this animal reference, unique to yourself as far as I know.

      • Robert White November 15, 2019 at 1:03 pm #

        Donald Duck is a Disney character familiar to all 60s Baby Boomer & Gen X cohorts. The Orange Cheeto is nicknamed ‘The Donald’ but acts like a NYC Mafia ‘Don’ and is in fact a NYC Real Estate scion well known for stiffing his subcontractors all over NYC.

        The Duck is also a quack of twitterverse known for his quackery.

        I did not make up ‘The Duck’ reference as it is borrowed Internet meme/trope.


        • K-Dog November 15, 2019 at 1:16 pm #

          Around here Orange Cheeto has a special meaning. Cheese doodles were originally made out of hot air and are a power food of choice among the heavily tatted and un-tailored in clown clothes crowd. You buy doodles and half of what you buy is empty space. But when fresh they can have a satisfying crunch.

          • Robert White November 15, 2019 at 1:39 pm #

            I don’t get out much, K-Dog. When you state ‘heavily tatted & untailored in clown’s clothes’ are you referencing ‘the bikers’ or just regular street flotsam & jetsam of the poverty variety that walk the streets of inner-city metropolitan centers/cores?

            I know the bikers dress like it’s Halloween 24/7/365 and that they wear ‘clown’s clothes’. Punk Rockers in the 80’s with the funny hair wore ‘clown’s clothes’ too but they were always still cool IMHO.

            Who wears clown clothes today aside from Hillary’s ‘pant suits’? Even The Duck has a sense of dress.

            Cheetos are good when they are no-name brand and on sale. I can down a whole bag in a sitting which makes for no time to do anything else given the finger stains from the cheese dust flavouring.

            Once you start eating Cheetos it’s game over for doing anything else whilst doing so simply based upon the mess.

            Popcorn is better for you IMHO.


          • K-Dog November 15, 2019 at 3:49 pm #

            Regarding doodles, To mean more than jest is not my quest and I don’t like the orange dust on my paws.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 15, 2019 at 1:08 pm #

      Nic try Bob white, but your name-calling isn’t fooling anybody.
      You got nothing on my man Trump, because there is nothing.

      • Nightowl November 15, 2019 at 1:55 pm #


      • Robert White November 15, 2019 at 2:05 pm #

        I actually do have dirt on The Duck but Remote Viewing is not accepted mainstream evidence until it is tested via courts & jurisprudence proper. I have already told the FBI that Trump was videoed & audio-recorded by Russian Federation Intelligence when he invited the Russian Federation hookers into Obama’s former Russian Federation hotel room bed for a urination festival.

        The FBI never replied, Beryl of Oyl.



        • benr November 15, 2019 at 2:11 pm #


          Talk about tin foil hat nonsense I would like to posit you have rye ergot poisoning!

          Nothing else can explain your delusional state.

          • benr November 15, 2019 at 2:24 pm #

            One other explanation since you freely admit being a communist scum is your a Russian agent.
            My other explanation makes far more sense.

          • Robert White November 15, 2019 at 4:20 pm #

            I cannot possibly be ‘a Russian agent’ given that I was raised by a G-Man, man. I live in our Nation’s Capital.
            We have about five police forces & about twenty different spy agencies, man.

            I’m far too cool of a hippie to be anyone’s agent except my own.

            Dear old dad raised me to be my own boss.


        • elysianfield November 15, 2019 at 11:11 pm #

          “The FBI never replied,..”

          They did not reply, but they did take note. Your name is, no doubt, on a list…a very special one.

          • benr November 15, 2019 at 11:25 pm #

            Yea needing lithium and a host of SSRI’s if he is not already popping them like tic-tac’s.

    • Q. Shtik November 15, 2019 at 2:11 pm #

      The Duck – RW


      I notice you have been referring to Trump as “The Duck.” I must not have been around the day this started and your rationale for this term. I assume it’s supposed to be a slur. Is it a reference to his hair style. Back in the ’50s we had a hair style known as a “ducks ass.”

      Please explain.

      I notice Janos, below, doesn’t get it either.

      • Robert White November 15, 2019 at 2:32 pm #

        I’m a 60’s product of Toronto in that I watched all the same television programming as American kids did in NYC & state.
        Moreover, everyone on Internet that is as well connected & versed as JHK is would know the meme reference that is universally applied to the Tariff Man-Cheeto.

        The Duck is universally known to be that bad man you have in the White House, Q.


      • Q. Shtik November 15, 2019 at 2:34 pm #


        duck’s ass

        • beantownbill. November 15, 2019 at 4:20 pm #

          AKA a DA.

          • malthuss November 15, 2019 at 8:31 pm #

            DA haircut.

          • sprawlcapital November 15, 2019 at 10:29 pm #

            AKA a ducktail

    • Uncle Bob November 15, 2019 at 3:01 pm #

      Name the crimes.
      Also, name the similar crimes perpetrated by Trump’s immediate predecessor, The Obamessiah.
      Then explain why one con man was worse than the other, and why the one who bragged about assassinating people using drones gets a pass.

      • Robert White November 15, 2019 at 4:35 pm #

        Pussy grabbing, your honour.
        Civil Disobedience, your honour.
        Misogyny & gratuitous paternalism, your honour.

        Commercial corporate crimes are far too numerous to article for impeachment giving legislators the only option of abuse of office.

        Obama’s crime was being too cool for America when America could have been a contender instead of a two bit hustler with a second rate hustle that cannot possibly work.

        At least Obama spoke to Americans as human beings whereas The Duck speaks to the world as though people turned to idiocy & imbecility overnight as soon as his bullshit newspeak hit the airwaves & Internet social serfdom.


        • benr November 15, 2019 at 11:26 pm #

          Your Marxist opinion is about as relevant as a cow pie in a pasture.

        • Nightowl November 16, 2019 at 3:27 pm #

          List the crimes then. And provide concrete evidence.

          Don’t be shy.

    • abbybwood November 15, 2019 at 4:46 pm #

      Once you read about the high crimes committed by Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Srzok, Page and the others that come out with the Barr/Durham report you may start whistling a different tune.

      Barr said yesterday that the FISA warrants investigation will be coming out “imminently”.

      Cuff ‘em Dano.

  10. malthuss November 15, 2019 at 11:26 am #

    The major or A major issue for USA is immigrants, of all stripes.
    Anchor babies, refugees.

    No border, no future.

    Every 12 years the payload of earth increases by a billion more resource needing humans. Mostly non White.

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    • Janos Skorenzy November 15, 2019 at 12:40 pm #

      There is simply no other issue. It’s the bottleneck in the hourglass. “Issues” are for the living in other words. We will have no problems as a Nation is there is no longer a viable nation. Any kind real or actual national life depends on stopping this dark torrent.

      And if America falls, the struggle will be even more intense, desperately trying to get away from these people and to a White Area or State that will defend ITS borders against them. Oaf Keepers will be on the side of the invaders and any remaining Feds.

    • sprawlcapital November 15, 2019 at 10:42 pm #

      Contempt is a loan that is always payed back, with interest.

      Hillary treated millions of people with contempt when she spoke of those of us opposed to open borders as “deplorables”.

      The payback to HRC and the Democrats was the 2016 election.

  11. pokercat November 15, 2019 at 11:35 am #

    “The lifers at State also have something to hide: their exertions to connive with Ukraine government officials they controlled to interfere in the 2016 US presidential election in favor of their former boss, Mrs. Clinton”

    Mr. K

    I’m sure you have PROOF you’ve just forgotten to attach it.

    Before I’m accused of being a Clinton supporter note that I voted Green in the last election because of her. I’d just like to see PROOF of any of this bullshit from either side and you sir have never offered any that I can recognize it the last few months of your screed.

    I’d normally say that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof but hell just a smidgen would be welcome.

    • Epicur November 15, 2019 at 12:32 pm #

      It is said “Never write when you can talk, never talk when you can wink, never wink when you can nod or say with a smile.”

      Expecting “PROOF” when dealing in these matters is not realistic.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 15, 2019 at 12:44 pm #

        Winking is more subtle than nodding. Consider the Cat. It neither smiles nor grimaces with its mouth, but how expressive it is with its eyes and ears!

        And consider also the Lillies of the Field. They toil not nor do they spin, but I tell you that Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed as these.

        The Stoics were lovers of Mankind, the Epicureans were not, but rather subtle connoseurs of everything, including people and I suppose cats too.

        • K-Dog November 15, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

          Well said.

      • GreenAlba November 16, 2019 at 9:19 am #

        Nightowl, a little word, if I may.

        I was looking for a couple of links on a previous thread and came across this, which I hadn’t seen at the time:

        October 31, 2019 at 11:42 am #
        I know, Nightowl, I did years of it. I even taught it briefly. Lighten up.

        October 31, 2019 at 12:05 pm #
        Sure you did.

        It was referring to the German language.

        I taught French for some considerable time, having come back from France pretty much fluent after four years living and working there. I also spoke French at home, as my husband was French.

        However, after seven years of this, it became apparent that I wasn’t going to get a permanent job without having a second language, as that is the expectation of Modern Language teachers in Scotland.

        I went to evening classes for two years and got German ‘O’ Grade and German ‘Higher’ (Grade 1 and Grade A respectively, not that it matters). This got me into the University of Edinburgh as a non-graduating student (non-graduating only because I was doing one subject and not several) where my results (74% and 76%) averaged to 75%, which would have corresponded to a First Class degree had I been doing a further degree.

        I then taught it for a while, but didn’t enjoy it, as I wasn’t as fluent as I was in French and never could be, not having the ability, as a mother of young children, to swan off and live in Germany for a year.

        Out of interest, what was your specific reason for saying ‘sure you did’?

        • GreenAlba November 16, 2019 at 9:25 am #

          You’ll have picked up, Nightowl, that I get riled for a few seconds when people question my honesty.

        • GreenAlba November 16, 2019 at 9:27 am #

          Obviously you didn’t make one of those er… ‘concrete statements of fact’ that you mentioned another time when backing out of an ‘inference’. Just a putdown based on… well, what? Your technique is interesting.

  12. capt spaulding November 15, 2019 at 11:40 am #

    Well RW, given the red stater’s track record in two of the last three presidential elections, I have to say I don’t have much faith in their ability to elect anybody competent. W was a pure fool and he served two terms, Trump appears to suffer from mental problems, and neither one of them was elected by a simple majority the first time around. Like I said, not a good track record on their part.

    Picking Biden o represent the Dems, is like trying to polish a turd. He’s a hopeless old corrupted buffoon. I think you’re right about Eisenhower, he warned about the military industrial complex, and the tax rate was about 90% on anything over a million bucks. It took the wealthy a while to overcome that one, but in the end they were successful. Nothin’ to do now, but kick back and let the good times roll. Speaking for myself, I sure am glad that I don’t have to worry about that 90% tax rate any more, how about you?

    • Robert White November 15, 2019 at 11:55 am #

      I am a seventh generation Canadian that was actually raised by The Tax Man in that my father was a CA that worked for Senior Rulings National Revenue CANADA.

      Taxation is as good as marijuana IMHO. As an orthodox Grumpy Marxist I am all for it BIG time.

      P.S. I have lived in absolute abject poverty my entire life. I have spent the last 40 years of working life existing on next-to-nothing.
      I root through residential waste for lumber, and woodworking hardware like wood screws et cetera.

      Note: When I get my hands on the rich cartel corporatocracy I will go full Marxist on their collective largesse. I will throw down & mop the floor with them en masse.


    • EvelynV November 15, 2019 at 12:00 pm #

      Nicely put.

      You DO still have to worry somewhat about the absence of that 90% tax rate however. If nothing else, more rusty bridges you might have to risk your life driving across, more pot holes in your street, or having you food stamp supply cut off.

      • Robert White November 15, 2019 at 12:14 pm #

        I CANUCKISTAN Ontario we have Social Assistance in the from of fiat currency so that the poor bastards like moi don’t have to be further marginalized by a ‘food stamp’ system that the USA demeans the poor with.

        Capitalists in CANADA know not to fuck with me, ever. Governments at all levels in CANADA know that I will fuck them up if they cross my path.


        • Janos Skorenzy November 15, 2019 at 12:56 pm #

          Canuckistan! This goof is proud of the coming Muslim takeover. Utterly hopeless. Probably dyes his tongue black too.

          • Robert White November 15, 2019 at 1:14 pm #

            Actually, I think that would be against Anglican tradition, Janos. As you know I am a Grumpy Marxist Anglican in actuality. I usually leave out the Anglican part so as not to confuse the reader vis-à-vis the paradoxical nature of such a perspective/orthodoxy.

            Lastly, CANADA is a G-7 that takes in immigrants from war torn regions that Americans are bombing the shit out of for petro-dollars & NeoCapitalist/Neofeudal profits.

            Raping & pillaging is no way to go through life, son.


          • K-Dog November 15, 2019 at 1:21 pm #

            There is nothing wrong with a black tongue!.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 15, 2019 at 1:29 pm #

            There is no “Canada” anymore. The Central Provinces will join with White Americans against British Columbia and the Eastern Stans. Lots of Wheat for Whites. The trail of Liberal refugees from Edmonton will be long indeed – a trail of tears. Our cup shall runneth over. Grump Marxists will have to hop on one foot all the way.

          • GreenAlba November 16, 2019 at 7:29 am #

            “shall runneth”?

            Gawd. William Tyndale would be turning in his grave, if your lot hadn’t reduced him to ashes on a bonfire.

            Nothing quite so amusing as the obsessive worshippers of tradition who can’t even cope with its language. Nobody ever had to teach me this stuff. I absorbed it directly from a long acquaintance with the flippin’ Bible.

            WT went to a lot of trouble so that you could read it in glorious English.

            No respect…

          • Nightowl November 17, 2019 at 3:48 am #

            The comedy of you posting this while simultaenously supporting the entities responsible for this death and destruction in their efforts to oust a President who openly opposes them is too much.

            Topped only by remote viewing, of course.

  13. sunburstsoldier November 15, 2019 at 11:49 am #

    So according to Jim the impeachment spectacle unfolding before us is not simply an overt manifestation of the Trump Derangement Syndrome (although it may be to some extent), but more fundamentally is symptomatic of a behind-the-scenes conflict between opposing world views concerning the role America is to play on the world stage; a war, that is, between Populism, as expressed in the slogan ‘Make America Great Again’, and Globalism. Is this an accurate assessment? What would be the slogan of this Globalism? Is it Elites versus Everyone Else? Will Globalism lead inexorably to a Totalitarian World Order? What impact does this all have on the problem of Peak Oil?

    • capt spaulding November 15, 2019 at 11:56 am #

      As long as none of it inconveniences the Oligarchs and the corporations, there won’t be that much of a problem. A hundred acres or so of land in New Zealand does much to help alleviate the discomfort and inconvenient affects of Peak Oil, and Climate Change.

      • sunburstsoldier November 15, 2019 at 12:06 pm #

        I mean for us not the Oligarchs…

        • capt spaulding November 15, 2019 at 4:58 pm #

          It means a world of hurt soldier, a world of hurt.

  14. BackRowHeckler November 15, 2019 at 12:15 pm #

    Problem here is, what about next ‘Season’ in the Vineyard? It just ain’t gonna be the same without those briefcases full of Ukrainian green backs coming in on the ferry from the mainland. It looks like Hunter Biden, John Kerry’s kid and Whitey Bulger’s nephew will have to find another ‘source’ for cash. After all the lines of coke, motoryachts and high end hookers from Boston ain’t gonna pay for themselves.

    And then there’s the whole question as to what to do with the Ukrainian mobsters and the remnants of the Winter Hill Gang still on the loose. They need work.


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    • malthuss November 15, 2019 at 8:21 pm #

      where does it end?

      How much money did Hillary and others make in deals for uranium or whatever?

  15. Epicur November 15, 2019 at 12:19 pm #

    This (link below) is an excellent talk about Russia and dealing with Russia by Stephen Kotkin. Especially at about 27:00 when he talks about the consequences of making commitments that you (or your people) are not really willing to fulfill.

    He was talking to the Foreign Policy Research Institute and deals with how misguided our policy in this area has been.


  16. sunburstsoldier November 15, 2019 at 1:15 pm #

    Everywhere I look in our world (and especially on the internet) I see human egos clinging to their narrow, one-sided, and unduly biased perspective of reality while banging the other guy on the head for getting it wrong. It is for this reason I believe the only thing which can possibly stave off a Dark Age (societal collapse) is some kind of Spiritual Awakening impacting a growing remnant of the population. Such an Awakening would be the necessary basis for a ‘New Consensus’.

    By Spiritual Awakening I mean a permanent shift to a ‘higher’ state of consciousness which transcends the limited perspective of the finite ego. I consider such a shift the next stage in human evolution.

    • SomeoneInAsia November 16, 2019 at 5:33 am #

      It is my belief that, in the event the human race blows it before being able to cross such a threshold in consciousness (courtesy of the utterly benighted miscreants who constitute the ‘elite’ of our species, including the .01%), we’ll reincarnate en masse as a new species, possibly on another planet or in some other dimension altogether, and hence be given a new chance. And if we blow it again, there’ll be another mass transmigration, and so on until we finally goddamn awaken collectively to that exalted state of being. Think of it as a cross between Olaf Stapledon and Vedanta. Heck, our species may have already gone through countless such mass-rebirths. If that’s what each of us goes through — it is IMHO perfectly rational to believe in reincarnation, as witness the work of Ian Stevenson and Brian Weiss — then I don’t see why it can’t be the story with our species as well.

  17. Beryl of Oyl November 15, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

    I like that term, “lifers”.
    I had a young relative who did very well in school, was adept at learning languages, and thought she might try for a career at the State Department.
    Nope, she was just a nobody, and you had to be an elitist snob with political and familial connections to get one of those jobs.
    This is probably why people from other places like to blow us up sometimes.

    A private club with too much money and power at its disposal is interfering in their lives.

    • BackRowHeckler November 15, 2019 at 3:16 pm #

      I can attest to that BOO.

      Dept of State jobs, as well as CIA, are reserved strictly for Ivy League graduates (preferably with family connections)

      Altho someone with your relatives qualifications, interests and education could have found a career in one of the branches of the armed forces. They are always looking for bright people with foreign language skills, at least the Navy was when I was there.


  18. Beryl of Oyl November 15, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

    I must say I’m surprised at how many still think it’s about Donald Trump and his character flaws.

    • K-Dog November 15, 2019 at 1:24 pm #

      Complicity with lies is a very powerful social force. It knits fundamentalists of all ilks together. When things really get out of control the lies get outlandish.

      • malthuss November 15, 2019 at 2:50 pm #

        There is nothing wrong with a black tongue!.

        I get the joke. A chowchow with out the black tongue is not so

        • K-Dog November 15, 2019 at 3:51 pm #


          • malthuss November 15, 2019 at 8:24 pm #

            I knew 2 childless women..both had CCs, way back in 80s-90s.

            One had the correct tongue.the other CC didnt.

            If tongue isnt black, can dog get a championship?

    • sunburstsoldier November 15, 2019 at 1:38 pm #

      Love him or hate him he is at present the spokesperson for Populism until someone perhaps more congenial comes along.

      It’s interesting how all the Trump-haters only serve to bring out the worse aspects of his character. What kind of Donald Trump would we have seen if Congress and the American people had supported him from the beginning? Perhaps America would already be ‘Great Again’…

      • sunburstsoldier November 15, 2019 at 1:47 pm #

        Some say they dislike Trump because of his policies, but I would ask what policies do they refer too?

        • benr November 15, 2019 at 2:19 pm #

          oh no he is trolls troll he thrives on trolling the enemy as he puts it.

          They say God gives you the politician you deserve and the Democrats deserve a double helping of the Donald I’m just not sure the rest of us deserve the spectacle.

          • sunburstsoldier November 15, 2019 at 2:21 pm #

            Like I say the Trump-haters bring out the worst in him…

          • capt spaulding November 15, 2019 at 5:04 pm #

            I think you’re putting the cart before the horse, sunburst. I disliked Trump long before he ran for office. Mainly because of his boorish behavior everywhere.

        • EvelynV November 17, 2019 at 4:19 am #

          Amid the worst Republican President and Republican Party in modern times, the Democrats are playing the politics of low expectations. This is not the time for Democrats to be in disarray. On Capitol Hill, the prevailing view of most Democrats is that they will cling to their House majority and they shouldn’t expect to regain the Senate in the 2020 elections. The Democrats should be using massive rebuttal evidence, relayed with invincible vibrant rhetoric, toward a “wave election win” as occurred in 1936, when President Roosevelt won 61 percent of the popular vote and the Democrats won large majorities in both the House and Senate.

          Tyrant Trump is the most impeachable president in the country’s history – hands down. Before he resigned, Richard Nixon was sure to be impeached and convicted in 1974 due to his obstructions of the Watergate scandal investigation. Selected president Donald Trump has committed many more serious offenses than Nixon. Trump’s abuses amount to repealing the gains of the American Revolution against monarchical rule, and they eviscerate the U.S. Constitution’s “separation of powers” system of presidential accountability. Moreover, major protections for the American people against big corporate crime, power and greed are all on Trump’s unlawful chopping block. His offenses and violations are more than enough to require his removal from office!

          The Democrat’s narrow impeachment move on Trump focuses on his attempted extortion of Ukraine for personal political gain. The current House inquiry does not yet include the far more serious systematic “high crimes and misdemeanors” he is brazenly committing. These affect the daily livelihoods, freedoms and just treatment of all the people where they live, work and raise their children.

          A president who lies and fabricates by the hour is destructive to life-preserving science, reason, truth, and public trust. Trump separates those who believe his delusionary tweets and rantings from the realities they need to confront. No family, neighborhood, community, or workplace can operate under such thunderous falsifications. Trump even lies about his promises when challenged – such as his claim that Mexico will pay to build the wall.

          Alexander Hamilton described “high crimes and misdemeanors” as “violations of the public trust.” Trump is the poster boy for this yardstick. He tells Americans they have cleaner air, water, food, forthcoming wonderful health insurance, tons more manufacturing jobs and “clean, beautiful coal.” He continues to maintain these fictions when just the opposite is occurring due to his deliberate destruction of existing health, safety and economic protections. He is subordinating people to increased corporate control. Trump caves to corporate demands for more tax escapes, taxpayer subsidies, stalled or frozen minimum wages and other mechanisms to stop the people from getting what they have earned.

          Trump’s income taxes on corporations and his own businesses are the lowest in modern U.S. history. Some companies – like the big banks and General Electric are nearing tax-exemption, so little do they pay into the U.S. Treasury. And Trump’s use of the presidency to enrich himself and his businesses is shameless.

          Remember all the factories that he said were coming back to America and the trade deficit he was going to diminish and the federal deficit he was going to reduce? Well, his actions have made a mess of all these matters. Manufacturing output and manufacturing jobs are down, the trade and federal deficits are up. Irregular Gig economy jobs with low pay and no-benefits are replacing good jobs. Consumer debts, including student debt, are at an all-time high.

          Overall, average inflation is low, but this is not helping low-income people paying higher rent, rising uncovered health care bills and public transit hikes. Home ownership is sliding, especially for African-Americans. Average life expectancy in America is declining for the first time.

          Hand it to Donald Trump. Sometimes he really means what he says. His cruel attacks on immigrants who take tough jobs, such as being home health care aides that nobody else wants, and his brutish treatment of women and minorities matches his rhetoric. He really has illusions of megalomania. “I am the chosen one,” he said recently.

          Trump trumpeted dictatorially: “Under Article 2, I can do whatever I want as President.” Which is what he is doing in violation of many sections of our Constitution, starting with sweeping contempt of exclusive Congressional authorities under our Constitution. These violations involve the appropriations, war and confirmation powers. He has violated surveillance rules, campaign finance laws and encouraged voter suppression of citizens likely to vote against Republicans. He is engaged in an attempted coup, not the Democrats.

          No other president has regularly violated more provisions of our Constitution, some of which also involve statutory crimes. No other president has engaged in more personal violence against women, openly incited violence against critics and reporters at his mass rallies. No other president has been more ineffective regarding fulfilling his boastful promises to his betrayed supporters.

          There is never a “last straw” fulmination by Donald Trump. The winner thus far is his latest incitement that “If the Democrats are successful in removing the President from office (which they will never be), it will cause a Civil War like fracture in this Nation from which our Country will never heal,’” Trump quoted from a Baptist pastor’s statement. Such a crazy, dangerous incitation would have been decisively actionable to our founding fathers, not to mention Mr. Republican himself – Abraham Lincoln, whose presidency was engulfed by Civil War.

          What are the Democrats waiting for? Present to the American people the many demonstrable impeachable offenses, which entail very harmful “kitchen table” impacts. A comprehensive impeachment inquiry will engage more of the public and will produce the critical broader public support for impeachment.

          Send ‘Trump and company’ back to Mar-a-Lago so they can contemplate the rising sea levels which he calls a “Chinese Hoax.” Set the stage for the crucial election of 2020 to end the supremacy of grasping corporations placing their “Tories” in what Thomas Jefferson called “the People’s House.”

      • DEFCON1 November 16, 2019 at 4:17 am #

        This is priceless! Suggesting that the wellspring of what the horrid trump coulda’ been is the people. If only they had gathered ’round Dear Leader – that adolescent con-artist piece of human trash the the trains would run on time.

        Wonderful stuff. Do you have more?

    • Majella November 16, 2019 at 2:12 am #

      Yes. It’s about the Constitution and Abuse of Power, Emoluments, Obstruction of Justice, and, as Franklin put it, Obnoxiousness.

      Of are these now just Trump’s forgivable ‘flaws’?

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      • Nightowl November 17, 2019 at 3:52 am #

        A millenial buzzword salad straight from the pages of Buzzfeed.

  19. Beryl of Oyl November 15, 2019 at 1:27 pm #

    What is it with ABC?
    First they get caught with having killed the Epstein story, even though their own reporter said she had “everything”.
    Then when this gets exposed, they go on a hunt for the person who leaked this.

    Shouldn’t they be looking at the person who squelched the story?
    Juanita Broaddrick is asking the reporter what she meant by “everything”, but she isn’t getting an answer.

    And where are the celebrities, speaking up for the women who didn’t get justice?

    Then there is the case of Elise Stefanik. Speaking at the circus, she elicited the information that the crimes Mr. Trump was being accused of hadn’t actually taken place.
    So a reporter for ABC goes on the attack over her line of questioning, and insults her for being a young woman.

    They seem eager to rebrand themselves as the network that hates women the most.

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  20. Beryl of Oyl November 15, 2019 at 1:33 pm #

    President Trump should be removed from office for crimes that never actually happened. Because Orange Man bad?
    Or is “intent” the new legal standard.
    Hillary was “exonerated” and “cleared” by James Comey (without a trial or anything) because, in his opinion, she didn’t have any intent.

    So, doing the crime doesn’t prove intent, and not doing a crime that someone decides you could have or might have wanted to do can still be a criminal act?
    Who gets to decide that?

    • Walter B November 15, 2019 at 1:46 pm #

      Apparently those who have the most cash or these greatest ability to assure the “suicide” of their accusers once they are incarcerated. Fuck with the Clintons and kill yourself, it is how it works.

      • benr November 15, 2019 at 2:22 pm #

        The term is arkancided.

        • malthuss November 15, 2019 at 8:26 pm #

          indeed…and 4 around Debbie are dead, maybe more.

    • lateStarter November 15, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

      That seems to me what all the fuss is about these days – who gets to decide. Who gets to decide what infrastructure gets built or repaired. Who gets to decide what form of benefits or safety net exists for its citizens. Who gets to decide what country should be invaded or regime-changed next. The list goes on, but we, the regular folks aren’t part of the discussion. Our needs and desires are not important.

      Anyway, they know better, right? They are rich so they must be smart, right? /s I don’t forsee a happy ending to this story…

    • benr November 15, 2019 at 2:20 pm #

      Indeed future crimes is now.
      The wolrd is upside down and backasswards.

      • malthuss November 15, 2019 at 2:50 pm #

        as is the spelling.

        Jimi–If 6 were 9.

    • beantownbill. November 15, 2019 at 4:48 pm #

      Oops, I didn’t intend to shoot that cartridge; they never told me how light the trigger pull was.

    • Majella November 15, 2019 at 9:05 pm #

      Intent equals conspiracy. That’s as illegal as commission. Just because FFvCS failed in his attempt, doesn’t exonerate him.

      • Nightowl November 17, 2019 at 3:54 am #

        Emotions are running high again, I see.

        Post the crime and provide concrete evidence.

  21. axisboldaslove November 15, 2019 at 1:49 pm #

    Whether or not the Ukraine situation or this political party or that one are fucked up (aren’t they both?!) are serious matters seems rather trifle when compared to other problems this world faces- problems the current POTUS seems to either deny or not give two shits about: climate change, mass extinction, and peak oil- which is precisely why I am anxious to see D.T. gone out of office in 2020- and it won’t happen before then. I really don’t understand the continued support here of this man so unqualified to lead a nation as large as the United States.

    And yet here we are again, going over the same single subject. It’s not that I totally have strong issues with what you write about Jim, but there is so much more, so very much more that is going to bring us down as a people and as a species.

    So what we’re left here in this blog is a repetitive pounding on a single issue that is responded to by a very small list of characters. It wasn’t always this way. This place could yet again have more filled seats. I wish it were so, Jim. There is so much more you could share with us and we in return respond to. Just my 2 cents- no offense intended.

    Hey Axis — You seem unaware that the activities I discuss represent THE issue at hand RIGHT NOW: a crisis of government. It is very serious business (though it has comic overtones). I’ll continue to write about it until it resolves. Your scolding is impertinent. — JHK Admin

    • lateStarter November 15, 2019 at 2:02 pm #

      axis, I understand your concern. I would love to see JHK writing about transportation issues and basic housing and infrastructure needs but we seem to be reaching a point where a select few are openly making it clear that only they have all the solutions (which incidentally seem to also benefit them) and we better listen to them. JHK has made it clear that he is no fan of the Orange one but there are other more serious issues here at play.

      If the US doesn’t find a way to work throught this current clusterfuck all bets are off. It is probably too late anyway and we just have to ride it out. As our host often says: we will just keep doing what we are doing until we can’t.

      What comes next will be interesting. Regards…

      • axisboldaslove November 15, 2019 at 2:26 pm #

        Good points, late starter. I’m just not sure what is happening here is going to change anything- especially with a reduced readership. I don’t object to the topic at hand being discussed, but I think more readers would have stayed on here longer (I have left a few time for lengthy periods of time) if topics were varied here more often.

        In particular, I think many here would find it helpful to discuss ways in which we might best prepare ourselves for some of the several ways in which life will become more difficult in the near to not-to-distant future. This is not a static situation. New factors come into play and those could be discussed here. Just as an example, the recent PG&E energy shutdown in California, the economy of which has been ranked somewhere between the 5th and 10th largest in the world, lost billions of dollars during all three major shut downs. This will have ripple effects spreading beyond this state.

        That’s just one of many issues that don’t get talked about much. I just think it would be useful if Jim would get us out of this one single box now and then. But it’s his blog, so I’m just throwing an idea out there.

        • lateStarter November 15, 2019 at 3:49 pm #

          there are lot of other places where you can find suggestions along those lines (how to prepare for what lies ahead). But I think you already know that. I view this place and a few others as chronicles of what is happening as opposed to what we should do.

          what are your plans?

          • capt spaulding November 15, 2019 at 5:23 pm #

            Ever since Trump’s election, the right wingers have mushroomed in here. The content switched to pure politics overnight, and most of it was not what I would call left wing, or even neutral.

            I remember wondering after the (almost) collapse in 2008, if this presaged another era of fascism running rampant. At first, after Obama’s election, I thought not, but then the Tea Party and the Trumpsters took off, and here we are: deserting our allies in Europe , deserting the Kurds, fucking up on almost every level you care to look at. Like I said, the nature of this website changed quickly. Hell, it got so bad, I almost felt like invading Poland again myself. I long for the good old days here.

          • axisboldaslove November 15, 2019 at 6:10 pm #

            I don’t see the coming breakdown of things to be totally predictable. Using my California/ PG&E example- I’ve seen many changes happen in this, my home state throughout my life (born here in 1951). But I never saw this one coming- a major power company letting it’s infrastructure become so outdated as to be highly dangerous and even lethal (i.e. the Paradise and Santa Rosa Fires as well as others in Southern California).

            On a national and global scale, other things change similarly. I’m not suggesting Mr. Kunstler turn this into a “survival blog” (or anything else for that matter- I respect that it is 100% his blog). I’m just suggesting that this Deep State business is not the only- or even necessarily the most pressing- issue we face. But that’s my take and I respect that others will disagree.

            My plans? I plan to NOT move back to a big city ever again. I currently live in a large county with a total population of a little less than 200,000 people. Though I can’t say I have a lot of close friends, my wife and I have cultivated a circle of decent friends and a network of local folks who are willing to help each other out in times of need.

            I support and, to what extent I can, am involve with a few lesser know organizations that do a fine job of defending wildlife and wilderness- particularly Sea Shepherd Conservation Society and Wildlands Network, as well as our local American River Conservancy.

            I participate in local, regional and occasionally state matters of concern by attending various meeting when I can and have been to state legislative meeting where we have been allowed to voice our opinion. And I have enough books and records to keep myself amused for the rest of my life.

            How about yourself, late starter?

    • sunburstsoldier November 15, 2019 at 2:19 pm #

      I would say Jim is not interested in winning a popularity contest. He’s focused on priorities. When you look at the long term evolution of his thought process since the publication of his book ‘The Geography of Nowhere’ you can see what he is writing about now is very much in character. He has always been a crusader and likely will remain so.

      • Beryl of Oyl November 15, 2019 at 2:34 pm #

        I think he’s stepping in and being a reporter because nearly everyone else in the ‘profession’ won’t do it.

        • Robert White November 15, 2019 at 3:09 pm #

          Jim is an Empiricist and knows that the basis of USA Capitalism is consumerism which is in a stark position as adversary to environment, and culture that is running headlong into the Law of Diminishing Returns when it comes to asset inflation.

          Jim is an artist/writer that follows Macroeconomics as it impinges on our existence & cultural way of life across North America & beyond.

          He is not so much ‘reporter’ as he is envisioning what is evident to most of us that follow the Greenspan era of asset inflation & requisite fallout worldwide.


        • K-Dog November 15, 2019 at 3:53 pm #

          I think all the reporters are all learning to be coders.

      • SomeoneInAsia November 16, 2019 at 5:40 am #

        I like to think of Jim as a court jester, who makes the object of ridicule the endless stupidities of the status quo.

    • oilie November 15, 2019 at 8:43 pm #

      Axis, there is a reason he isn’t concerned about climate change. It’s because it isn’t a problem. After a lifetime as a physicist who has studied the problem, the theory and the evidence, I can say that climate change is merely a political vehicle for leftists to try to obtain power. Nothing more. We increased the atmospheric CO2 by 50% over the pre-industrial level and got about one degree F for it, assuming an entirely human cause. By the time the CO2 is double the pre-industrial level, in about one hundred years, we should get another one degree F. You have to be mentally deficient to see this as a serious problem.

      • Majella November 16, 2019 at 2:17 am #

        Ah! Found one of the dissenting scientists. You’re NOT mythical after all.

      • axisboldaslove November 16, 2019 at 2:42 am #

        LOL, surely you don’t really expect me to seriously respond to this?!

      • DEFCON1 November 16, 2019 at 4:15 am #

        You spent a lifetime in physics and this is your conclusion?

        Maybe operating a shave-ice cart would have been a better road for you.

      • GreenAlba November 16, 2019 at 7:50 am #

        “You have to be mentally deficient to see this as a serious problem.”

        That’s what I think Boris should be singing to the people in Yorkshire just now, to keep their spirits up while they empty the sodden remains of their carpets, furniture and other belongings on to the river (sorry, street) outside.

        [Standard response included to save you the trouble: there have always been floods.]

        If he gets fed up with the wet, he can go and sing the second verse to the people of Queensland and New South Wales.


        “merely a political vehicle for leftists to try to obtain power. ”

        Yeah that’s why that world-renowned Marxist icon Margaret Hilda Thatcher set up the Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research’.

        Oh, no, it wasn’t, was it? It was because she was a trained scientist. My mistake.

        • Majella November 16, 2019 at 8:02 am #

          GA – did you take a minute to look at the outrageous RWNJ propaganda benr promoted upstream?


          I watched a few chunks of it – puke-making BS. But it deserves your particular skills in deconstruction.

          • GreenAlba November 16, 2019 at 8:25 am #

            I haven’t yet, Majella, as the sound on my desktop PC died a while ago and it’s not worth looking into as I intend to get rid of it quite soon (have been saying that for months!). There are a few links I need to send myself by email so that I can pick them up on a device with sound and listen to them all at once, before I forget where to find them.

            Including your two Bill Bailey clips from a few threads ago, which I am looking forward to!

            And the AGW in a nutshell one you posted after that. Once I am deskless and office-chairless I will be able to enjoy full sound again laptop-wise from the comfort of my sofa. 🙂

      • Majella November 16, 2019 at 2:38 pm #

        Can you cobble together two or more of you?

    • axisboldaslove November 16, 2019 at 10:39 pm #

      Fine, but damn it Jim, you know what I write is NOT meant to be impertinent. Come on man, surely you don’t think I’m yanking your chain, trolling, bating or bullshitting here? That’s not my style. Disagree with me, fine. Tell me my ideas don’t suit your interest. No problemo. But surely you know that I am being forthright and honest in what I say.

      With all dues respect (and I do respect you),


  22. sunburstsoldier November 15, 2019 at 2:06 pm #

    The real problem in America is not Donald Trump but the intransigence between those who are left of center and those who are right of center. The only viable Third Party I could identify with would be one rooted in a consensus which brings together the best of both worlds, such as the ability to maintain a Free Market System while evolving simultaneously a sustainable and ecologically viable civilization.

    • ellipsis November 16, 2019 at 9:03 am #

      Surely you jest. “Free market systems” never evolve toward “sustainable and ecologically viable” civilizations. That’s the problem. Absent heavy regulation, the rich will always try to seize everything for themselves and eliminate everyone else. That’s what’s happening as we speak. There can be no bargaining with these motherfuckers.

  23. Beryl of Oyl November 15, 2019 at 2:11 pm #

    Roger Stone was convicted on 7 counts, stemming from the Mueller investigation.
    These are “process crimes”, but that doesn’t matter.
    He was close to President Trump (Vanity Fair actually called him a henchman), they had nothing on Trump; so somebody had to go to jail.

    In the future, expect to see anyone actually daring to challenge the status quo jailed before any votes are cast.

    But hey, Donald Trump has funny hair.

    • capt spaulding November 15, 2019 at 5:30 pm #

      That’s right, everybody around him is going to jail, but Trump hasn’t done anything wrong. I think the same thing was true about Hitler. Those damned death camps, and a lot of that other nonsense was cooked up by his underlings in the government, and he had nothing to do with any of it. Hell, he was a vegetarian, and when did you ever hear of a vegetarian who wanted to kill Jews? Nope, Trump is getting a bad rap all the way around, and only the enlightened ones understand it.

      • Nightowl November 17, 2019 at 3:56 am #

        Is Trump Hitler again, Captain?

        Such compelling arguments.

    • Majella November 15, 2019 at 9:08 pm #

      So, ‘process crimes’ don’t count? Lying in court and to Congress is perjury. The perjury rules are absolutely CORE in maintaining the rule of law.

      • BackRowHeckler November 15, 2019 at 11:27 pm #

        How come only Republicans are being prosecuted and sent to prison?

        Dems must be squeaky clean.


        • Majella November 16, 2019 at 2:20 am #

          That’s unlikely, but your ‘tribe’ has the same opportunities. If the Barr/Dunham investigation proves out, you’ll get your wish, won’t you?

  24. BackRowHeckler November 15, 2019 at 2:16 pm #

    Ok, what happened to Pissy Myles (notorious drag queen)?

    Day 1 at the impeachment hearings Pissy was front and center, prominent, standing head and shoulders over all of DC. Pissy Myles was ready to testify, and she claims she had a lot to say. Now she seems to have disappeared.

    Don’t tell me they got to her, too?


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    • Beryl of Oyl November 15, 2019 at 2:26 pm #

      I was wondering about that.

  25. stelmosfire November 15, 2019 at 3:41 pm #

    So Adam Schiff was just on TV and said we should Execute the President is that treason or what.

    • BackRowHeckler November 15, 2019 at 4:35 pm #

      Check for Pissy Myles body in the DC morgue.

      Bouffant hairdo, red pumps, fire engine red dress, about 6′ tall, maybe 250 lbs, male genetilia.

      Could be a CIA hit.


      • Janos Skorenzy November 15, 2019 at 5:50 pm #

        One is reminded of Pussy Galore.

    • BackRowHeckler November 15, 2019 at 4:39 pm #

      Gallon of mascara, gallon of eye shadow, shouldn’t be hard to identify …

    • fineline November 15, 2019 at 6:40 pm #

      What tv are you watching?

    • elysianfield November 15, 2019 at 11:23 pm #

      “Don’t any of you f–king pr–s move or I’ll execute every last one of ya!” (paraphrased)

      Honey Bunny.

      • elysianfield November 16, 2019 at 6:09 pm #

        …As in “Pulp Fiction”, the movie.

  26. Janos Skorenzy November 15, 2019 at 5:18 pm #


    A Theater Professor. Reminded him of the Communist Terror he fled from back in Romania.

  27. Janos Skorenzy November 15, 2019 at 5:49 pm #

    The war was lost
    The treaty signed
    I was not caught
    I crossed the line

    I was not caught
    Though many tried
    I live among you
    Well disguised

    I had to leave
    My life behind
    I dug some graves
    You’ll never find

    The story’s told
    With facts and lies
    I have a name
    But nevermind

    The war was lost
    The treaty signed

    There’s truth that lives
    And truth that dies
    I don’t know which
    So nevermind

    Your victory
    Was so complete
    Some among you
    Thought to keep

    A record of
    Our little lives
    The clothes we wore
    Our spoons, our knives

    The games of luck
    Our soldiers played
    The stones we cut
    The songs we made

    Our law of peace
    Which understands
    A husband leads
    A wife commands

    And all of this
    Expressions of
    The sweet indifference
    Some call love

    The high indifference
    Some call fate
    But we had names
    More intimate

    Names so deep and
    Names so true
    They’re blood to me
    They’re dust to you

    There is no need
    That this survive
    There’s truth that lives
    And truth that dies

    I live the life
    I left behind

    There’s truth that lives
    And truth that dies
    I don’t know which
    So nevermind

    I could not kill
    The way you kill
    I could not hate
    I tried I failed

    You turned me in
    At least you tried
    You side with them
    Whom you despise

    This was your heart
    This swarm of flies
    This was once your mouth
    This bowl of lies

    You serve them well
    I’m not surprised
    You’re of their kin
    You’re of their kind

    I had to leave my life behind
    The story’s told
    With facts and lies
    You own the world
    So nevermind

    I live the life
    I left behind

    I live it full
    I live it wide
    Through layers of time
    You can’t divide

    My woman’s here
    My children too
    Their graves are safe
    From ghosts like you

    In places deep
    With roots entwined
    I live the life I left behind

    The war was lost
    The treaty signed
    I was not caught
    I crossed the line

    I was not caught
    Though many tried
    I live among you
    Well disguised

    © Kobalt Music Publishing Ltd., Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC
    For non-commercial use only.
    Data From: LyricFind

    JS: Len was talking about White Genocide though perhaps he didn’t know it. Like that Outer Limits episode where aliens take over humans and “ride” them, using them to subvert America. What do we if we lose as we are losing right now? This song tells one possibility.

    • BackRowHeckler November 15, 2019 at 8:08 pm #

      Ozone does a pretty good rendition of that song.

      one of the best I’ve heard.


    • malthuss November 15, 2019 at 8:28 pm #

      Lenny was jewish. He would go to Ramesh Balsekar …
      he lived up the road.

      • BackRowHeckler November 15, 2019 at 11:25 pm #

        Malth did you see my question about ‘The Source’

        end of last thread?

        • malthuss November 16, 2019 at 10:59 am #

          no–will check.

  28. fineline November 15, 2019 at 6:39 pm #

    JHK decided long ago that Trump is innocent of all charges, that the Russians had nothing to do with the 2016 election, that the NY Times is out to get him and the democrats want to overthrow the government. As the evidence mounts, he continues to prove that factas just do not matter to him.

    • Walter B November 15, 2019 at 6:48 pm #

      Actually no, you are incorrect. People like you who maintain the “my way or the highway” attitude will never shut up until everyone agrees with you. The problem with that is, that if things work out where one side wins over the other under this way of thinking, one side is going to wind up feeding the fish, and the other will wish they were quickly dispatched before they are through. You are not nearly as prepared to undergo this treatment as you think you are.

      • axisboldaslove November 15, 2019 at 7:34 pm #

        “People like you who maintain the “my way or the highway” attitude will never shut up until everyone agrees with you.”

        Seriously, Walter? Isn’t that pretty much how it goes on both sides around here? But the thing is, the ones who get shut down the fastest around here are those of us who find Trump to be a deplorable human being and, at best, a rather inept President. I could go on about that but if that isn’t clear by now, it never will be.

        • Walter B November 16, 2019 at 6:19 pm #

          Sorry axis but even though I do not really like Donald Trump myself, there are millions upon millions of human being walking the streets of America that are far more deplorable than DJT. Foul, evil, disgusting people that keep many of us busy protecting society from them, and Hillary Clinton is on the top of that list (not that we can be protected from her). You don’t like The Donald, fine but he is no more deplorable than Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer and pretty much all of those elected to congress and the senate. They are all sellout scum so in the interest of fairness, spread the bile please.

          • axisboldaslove November 16, 2019 at 10:49 pm #

            Walter, I don’t think you really want me to list here all off the politicians I think are despicable (that would get boring, fast) and I never said I was fans of those other people you mentioned. I am not. To my way of thinking, both parties are full to the brim with (mostly) people of ill repute. What I was referring to is that in reading the responses here, I do not see much of what you suggest happening, “spreading the bile”.

            And I must add, I’m also into spreading good will. So I will wish you well, Walter. You know- like that song about “what the world needs now.” And, oh man, does it ever.



        • Nightowl November 17, 2019 at 9:20 am #

          You get shut down on substance. Most would agree Trump has likability issues. The problem for most of the anti-Trump crowd is that they make bold claims about Trump’s “criminality” and can’t back up a word of it.

      • fineline November 15, 2019 at 10:39 pm #

        Are you usually that dissonant?

        • axisboldaslove November 16, 2019 at 2:45 am #

          No, actually I’m rather melodic. 🙂

    • Nightowl November 17, 2019 at 9:22 am #

      Oh? What charges?

      List the exact crimes and provide hard evidence of his guilt.

      Let’s go through them one by one.

  29. fineline November 15, 2019 at 6:52 pm #

    Lots of noise about Soros, but not much about the Koch brothers and Steve Bannon as they exert influence all over Europe’s elections, not to mention Brexit.
    “Trump sincerely wants to clean up that mess and shut down the State Department’s rogue outside operations channel…” Are you delusional or do you think we are?

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  30. Luhrenloup November 15, 2019 at 6:59 pm #

    My take on the impeachment show:

    I never watch these government plays because, well, you know. But today while waiting for the clothes to dry I took a look on youtube.
    Trump was being kind when dubbing Schiff Pencil Neck. That guy’s eyes are really creepy. I can’t imagine how anybody can interact with him. How he got elected? Then again, he’s from California.

  31. Q. Shtik November 15, 2019 at 9:54 pm #

    Rutgers is set to take a terrible thrashing tomorrow afternoon at the hands of Ohio State who is #2 in the nation.

    • elysianfield November 15, 2019 at 11:27 pm #

      Does Rutgers hire non-students to play ball? Ohio State sho nuff does….

      • Q. Shtik November 16, 2019 at 12:34 pm #

        Does Rutgers hire non-students to play ball? – ely


        Can’t say for sure but Rutgers DOES have a reputation for trying to maintain academic standards.

        Counter-intuitively, the Big 10 is composed of 14 teams. The last 2 to be added were Maryland and Rutgers in 2014. As expected these two teams would be losers for a number of years until their programs caught up with the others.

        A week ago Maryland lost to Ohio State 73-14. The 59 point difference was said to be the largest gap in a Big 10 game in 50 years. And Maryland is believed to be a slightly better team than Rutgers. Ergo, Rutgers could set losing history today for a generation unless OS decides to play 4th stringers in the second half.

        For anyone interested, kickoff is at 3:30 and the game is on the BTN network (in my area).

    • BackRowHeckler November 15, 2019 at 11:34 pm #

      Holy Sh#t, what’s the spead?

      • BackRowHeckler November 15, 2019 at 11:35 pm #

        the spread

        • Q. Shtik November 16, 2019 at 12:14 pm #

          52.5 pts

  32. PeteAtomic November 15, 2019 at 10:34 pm #

    A very telling part of Yovanovitch’s testimony today was when she was talking about corruption in Ukraine she makes this incredible remark about how the justice system in Ukraine is used against political enemies– and in her words “something most Americans don’t understand:, at around 25:50 in the video

    Here Yovanovitch is testifying as a willing or unwitting tool of the impeachment of a sitting US president– and is being used as weapon of the democrats in the House Intel Cmte. Given the use of FBI and CIA to attempt to bring down Trump, it was a pretty amazing insight to bring up– and totally self unaware as well on the behalf of Yovanovitch.

    • Luhrenloup November 15, 2019 at 10:46 pm #

      These people are so corrupt at this point they see none of this stuff. Think on this one, she would actually want to bring down the President of the US because he fired her!

    • Majella November 16, 2019 at 2:25 am #

      Impeachment is a constitutional process. In Ukraine, Russia, Saudi Arabia & Turkey, the Accused finds him/herself in prison, followed by a show trial a year or so later. There’s no comparison. Quit bleating.

      • benr November 16, 2019 at 12:20 pm #

        You are part and parcel for the object corruption of our laws and due process.
        You an alien citizen who was not brought up to love our Constitution and rule of law.
        Your opinion is nothing but shit on a shingle and unworthy of actually listening to since what you call bleating is actually people raising concern from all of this corruption.

        • Q. Shtik November 16, 2019 at 1:06 pm #

          Your opinion is nothing but shit on a shingle – benr


          When my best bud went in the Navy after high school he reported that they would often have “cream dried beef on toast” for breakfast which the crew referred to as “shit on a shingle.” Alternatively, they called it “foreskins on toast’.

          • benr November 17, 2019 at 9:29 am #

            The eight years I was in never once did they did they serve that to us.
            Roast beast yes.
            Turkey breast of sorts.
            Sliders oh yes by the millions.
            Pasta and Tomato sauce.
            Steak and lobster when bad news was coming.
            The three allowed spices at the time:
            Garlic powder.

          • Q. Shtik November 17, 2019 at 3:02 pm #

            The eight years I was in never once did they did they serve that to us. – benr


            My bud was in from 1958 to 1962. When were you in?

          • benr November 17, 2019 at 4:09 pm #

            Feb 2 1991 – Oct 8 1998.
            Had another two years inactive reserve.

        • Majella November 16, 2019 at 2:29 pm #


      • Majella November 16, 2019 at 2:32 pm #

        I’m guessing you referring to me in a global sense, because the post that generated that reaction was a mere statement of fact. ‘Quit bleating” is the best advice ever, and you should take it.

        • benr November 17, 2019 at 9:30 am #

          Back at you.

      • PeteAtomic November 17, 2019 at 11:35 pm #

        “Impeachment is a constitutional process. In Ukraine, Russia, Saudi Arabia & Turkey, the Accused finds him/herself in prison, followed by a show trial a year or so later. There’s no comparison. Quit bleating.”

        In the US, secret policemen in one wing of the government try to overthrow democratically elected leaders in their own government. The CIA understands that if they ‘disappear’ Trump, or if they stage a violent coup, a real civil war would be imminent in the country.

        Take your meds.

  33. BackRowHeckler November 16, 2019 at 12:11 am #

    When’s Biden’s son Hunter and his main bros John Kerry’s stepson and Whitey Bulger’s nephew gonna be called before Congress to testify? Those f#kkers are knee deep in Ukrainian corruption. It must have been sweet tho, those summers on the Vineyard, ferry arriving daily from Wood’s Hole, hard looking men in ill fitting suits delivering briefcases full of cash. All of a sudden there’s crisp $100 bills showing up on the island — lots of them — with traces of white powder. Whoo, the times they must have had! Then President Trump came along and f#kked it all up, asking questions and demanding accountability. Well, maybe it was too good to last. It seems like many sweet deals may be coming to an end, does it not?


    • Majella November 16, 2019 at 2:29 am #

      Sounds really like 3rd hand hearsay, Marlin.

      And the bit about FFvCS coming in and disrupting the fun is just fantasy.

    • Majella November 16, 2019 at 2:38 am #

      Re: sweet deals- take a look at Jared & Ivanka.

  34. BackRowHeckler November 16, 2019 at 12:30 am #

    And the links between Pissy Myles and Hunter Biden needs to be investigated.

    Who’s up for it?

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  35. toktomi November 16, 2019 at 2:24 am #

    @ JHK

    Holy shittenoley, Mackinoley, it sounds like somebody let the zombies off their leashes.

    “He’s close, man. He’s real close.” [Roach]


  36. DEFCON1 November 16, 2019 at 3:31 am #

    Adam Schiff is handling these whining babies masterfully. He is maintaining consummate professionalism even when dealing with blockheads like Nunez, Stefanik and the rest of these jackasses.

    • Majella November 16, 2019 at 8:13 am #

      Jim Jordan is a particularly interesting jackass. Brought in as a big-gun ringer for the GOP, he struggles to develop a coherent question, let alone make a dent in Schiff’s chairing.

      • Majella November 16, 2019 at 8:26 am #

        Here’s Bill Maher, he who is hated by GOPers, but telling it like it is. Watch it anyway…get mad as hell and then come back and smear him.


      • benr November 16, 2019 at 11:28 am #

        Schiffs chairing you mean the little dictator?
        Granted the GOP lawyer is awful compared to the DNC one but this inquiry is already grinding to a painfully orchestrated nothing burger.

        • Majella November 16, 2019 at 2:28 pm #

          In-depth assessment from benr. Let’s wait till Sondland shits the bed next Wednesday.

        • Majella November 16, 2019 at 2:54 pm #

          Remember, too, benr, the Committee is operating under what’s known as ‘The Boehner Rules’. If they don’t like them, they only have themselves to blame. Quit bleating.

          • benr November 16, 2019 at 6:56 pm #

            You are confused more of a sheep dog than a sheep.
            I would guess this reference eludes you since well your an Adopted American not a real one by birth and upbringing.

            Which is strange since you really did not flee a country being ravaged by war or poverty so I can only surmise you have come here because you hate it and want to destroy it.

            Most certainly your concepts of what is good policy run contrary to common sense and reality.
            You claim to support one of the very worst aspects of the great gimme state in Bernie Sanders. Some of his ideas are straight out of the communist manifesto.



            So this begs the question are you a communist or are you simply dumb enough to fall for the arguments of a communist? bread line Bernie knows calling himself one is tantamount to ending his political career.

            Most Americans over the age of forty want nothing to do with Communist ideas and or its little brother socialism.

        • Nightowl November 17, 2019 at 1:43 pm #

          I find it highly amusing. Every witness so far has been publicly humiliated, and if Schiff’s eyes bulge as hard as they did when he gagged Stefanik, they might just pop — providing the optics of a literal massacre.


  37. toktomi November 16, 2019 at 3:55 am #

    So, how on this, James?

    Per “…connive with Ukraine government officials… to interfere in the 2016 US presidential election…”, it is, I would offer, getting more and more difficult to imagine individuals of wide recognition having any ability to truly influence major events unless, of course, the person is a well-known hacker extraordinaire.

    All the power is now digital, right out to the finger prints. Even fighter pilots are but super athletes finely tuned to computer interfaces.

    Aside: Funny stuff with Kissinger ringing in on trade wars with China. Governance appears to me to be in disarray, and I’m not talking about the government; I’m talking about governance by the “real owners”.

    More digression: I had a story on long time back where I penned that rather than the normal routine of keeping the masses calm and sedated, near the end immediately before pulling the plug, the real ptb would run up public angst to the popping point. Hmmmm The whole story is significantly larger than this one scene, and I have never encountered any evidence to suggest that the story is wide of the mark, never since it first came to me about 14 or so years ago.


  38. SomeoneInAsia November 16, 2019 at 5:43 am #

    I have to say I do entertain fantasies about making a voodoo doll of George Soros and dipping it very slowly into boiling hot oil. Head first.

    • Majella November 16, 2019 at 8:15 am #

      Go ahead – indulge yourself! It won’t make a blind bit of diffrence, but you’ll feel all masterful!

      • volodya November 16, 2019 at 10:44 am #

        Maybe it’s worth a try.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2019 at 2:25 pm #

      You would need something of his, like nail clippings or hair, to put on the doll to connect it with him.

      It’s a fucking science, yo.

  39. Majella November 16, 2019 at 9:10 am #

    I have to thank FFvCS for knowing all the best people and giving them high-end jobs in his Administration viz. Sondland, Ghouliani, Perry et al. They’re just such useful idiots in exposing his abuses of power, second only to the man himself, who practices witness intimidation via Twitter!

    Incidentally, witness intimidation was one of the seven felonies Roger Stone went down for – which is not a ‘process’ crime {for the Trump apologist above).

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    • BackRowHeckler November 16, 2019 at 9:30 am #

      This impeachment circus you’re so excited about, what’s the point of it all? Apparently there is only 1 Repub vote in the US Senate to remove Trump from office, and 2 Dem Senators who will vote with the Republican majority. You and others are hot about Ukraine at the present moment, just like you were hot about Russia a year ago. That led nowhere, just like this most recent coup attempt will lead nowhere. If you are that concerned about Trump’s presidency you should be worried about the weak field of Dem candidates lining up to take him on next year. When two 80 year olds and a Schoolmarm are leading the pack you have problems.

      Duvall Patrick is now jumping in. Maybe he will be your saviour.


      • Majella November 16, 2019 at 9:39 am #


        Indeed. The question is the, really, why are you Trumpsters so bothered about it? You’re right, the spineless Senate won’t convict him.

        What’s more, you see the Dems as shooting themselves in the foot – surely a joyful spectacle for you?

        But at least his abuses will be on the record – the impeachment articles & Mueller’s report, which is still a ‘thing’ and highlights his numerous abuses, particularly his rampant obstructions.

        • BackRowHeckler November 16, 2019 at 9:55 am #

          I’ve been reading about Lyndon Johnson’s time in office; just as a comparison, as far as ‘boorish’ behavior goes Trump got nothing on Johnson. Apparently John Kennedy was no poker either. What you call abuses has always been business as usual.


          • volodya November 16, 2019 at 10:50 am #

            My read of Johnson was that he was an arm-twister that could get things done. Too bad he fell in line with the MIC on Vietnam. In the end I think he realized the folly, but too late.

            RFK from what I read was a real head-buster saving his bro from disaster when there was imminent disclosure of JFK’s horn-dog proclivities.

          • elysianfield November 16, 2019 at 12:08 pm #

            “Too bad he fell in line with the MIC on Vietnam. In the end I think he realized the folly, but too late. ”

            Yes, but it was not his greatest, most expensive, nor most destructive sin. He…he blessed us with the welfare state and the Equal Rights paradigm.

            Vietnam is 50 years behind us, and all but forgotten…the welfare state and it’s weaponized minions, are the gift that keeps on giving….

          • elysianfield November 16, 2019 at 12:09 pm #


          • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2019 at 2:29 pm #

            When Israel was attacking the Liberty, Johnson said, Stand down. We will not embarrass an ally. Let them sink it.

            A Traitor pure and simple. Perhaps a Crypto-Jew? No real American could have ever said what he said. Thankfully, he was ignored in this case. The military wasn’t so far gone back then.

        • BackRowHeckler November 16, 2019 at 10:00 am #

          And actually I don’t consider myself a Trumpster. Back in ’16 I backed Dem candidate Jim Webb, and I thought a fusion ticket of Webb/Scott Walker could go places. But neither man ever got any traction.

          No, I back Trump because your side hates him so much. That’s the reason.


          • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2019 at 2:30 pm #

            Me too. The Anglo-Saxon is learning to hate….

          • Majella November 16, 2019 at 4:38 pm #

            Strange reason – a sort of double negative.

        • benr November 16, 2019 at 11:30 am #

          Wrong its not about whether Trump is impeached or sent to the senate its that the Democrats are shitting all over due process and how things should be done.
          Setting a bad precedent because don’t think this won’t boomerang back around!

          • Majella November 16, 2019 at 2:11 pm #

            Who says it’s not ‘due process’? The whiny little bitches like Lindsay Graham & Devin Nunez and all the other spineless Trumpistas.

            Does anyone recall what these current Cult Leaders were saying about him before he got the nomination?


            Then & now. The best thing one can say about him is that he’s a pragmatist; the more likely is that he’s as spineless as the rest and just wants to get re-elected. There may a surprise or two in store for him & his ilk in the next general.

          • benr November 16, 2019 at 7:11 pm #

            You have zero clue about what due process is if you think this is it!

          • Majella November 17, 2019 at 12:52 am #

            So, enlighten me.

            I watch Fox for shits & giggles, so I know what Hannity, Carson & Ingraham tell YOU what it is, but can you tell ME what it is?

            I’ll await the crickets.

          • benr November 17, 2019 at 9:32 am #

            How about you tell me what it is.
            I have been to jury duty enough every fricking year in fact I have seen it in motion.

          • elysianfield November 17, 2019 at 11:16 am #

            “I have been to jury duty enough every fricking year in fact I have seen it in motion.”


            Is the duty becoming onerous? Just mention “Jury Nullification” during vior dire…

            I did.

            Because I believe in the concept, and practice it.

          • Nightowl November 17, 2019 at 1:37 pm #

            The current Affentheater is not actually an impeachment. An impeachment requires a vote in the House and Senate (the latter of which will not vote to do so in lieu of an actual crime, which does not exist) and is the equivalent of a legal indictment.

            As such, in a real impeachment, the President gets legal representation, which would allow him to expose all kinds of nasty things to the public.

            There is a reason Pelosi will only call it an “inquiry.'” As mentioned many times; the coup crowd wants the optics of impeachment. Trump is not even legally bound to cooperate in this comedy of errors.

            Those are the facts. Maj’s thought process has provided for many laughs, as usual.

          • benr November 17, 2019 at 4:16 pm #


            No she is really seems mislead and down right ignorant as anything she does not know is a conspiracy theory.
            It’s almost as sad as watching Evelyn shooting off her ignorant typing fingers but at least Majella attempts a veneer of civility.

            The other one is just a nasty piece of work.

  40. BackRowHeckler November 16, 2019 at 9:49 am #

    Climate Extinction Worldwide Hunger Strike kicks off Monday.

    “Declare a climate emergency and vow to ‘decarbonize by 2025’ or we will starve ourselves to death.”

    It seems like this group is going for all the marbles and there is no turning back. This is it!

    Apparently you can’t just stop eating on your own, you have to sign up officially on their website. Odd thing on the manifesto there is very little about the weather, much about racism, colonialism, white supremacy … getting the picture, CFNers?

    New book out that may be of some interest to readers of this blog “The Second Sleep”, by Robert Harris. JHK wrote “Too Much Magic”, well this novel seems to be about what happens when that magic disappears and is looked back upon from a distant dystopian future.


  41. volodya November 16, 2019 at 10:36 am #

    Is the Ukraine a failed state of American design? I think it’s almost reflexive for Americans to over-estimate their own influence on world affairs. 

    Having said that, there’s no doubt, the Middle East is presently in worse convulsions than usual because of the US military and US money and various other forms of meddling. But, having said that, the Middle East was set up to fail in its current configuration a hundred years ago with the end of WW1 and the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the re-drawing of borders. And it was kept in failure mode because it suited various local interests. And let’s not discount the Ottomans and their centuries-long misrule and predation.

    And if Israel wasn’t created, local despots would have had to create it themselves, because if Israel isn’t a made-to-order distraction for under-employed young Muslim men then I don’t know what it is. The first thing the beards running the Middle East should do before they sip their morning tea, is to ask what they can do for Israel. Israel is the God-send, the justifier for mis-rule, and never mind Great Satan, the perfidious Jew is the all-purpose excuse. 

    Was the rule of the Shah solely the doing of western interests? Or did it suit powerful Iranian interests just fine? After the overthrow of the Shah, could Iranians have created something other or better than the clerical kleptocacy they have now?

    I keep reading that Iranian youngsters want to move to the US and dance half-naked in nigh-clubs and screw like rabbits. Well, they can’t all move. And Iran is their country and if entertainment and alcohol and debauchery is what they want, then it’s up to them to get it, it’s not up to other people living half a world away to expend their own lives and money to do for Iranians what Iranians should be doing for themselves.

    After the overthrow of Saddam, or even before, could the Iraqis have created a non-corrupt, functioning democracy, with rule of law, individual rights and due process? Or, barring democracy, a non-corrupt, functioning despotism? They could have, but they had other agendas in mind.   

    What about the Ukraine? Blame first the Czar and then the communists. And then it was local actors that robbed everything not nailed down, and it was other locals that either turned a blind eye or were complicit or otherwise decided it was for someone else to stop the theft. 

    IOW the Ukraine is a decrepit, destitute piss-hole largely because of locals, not Americans. Ukrainians fucked it all up. Yeah, Vicky Nuland was there bandying about expletives,and Joe Biden too in facilitating the grift. But to say that it was all about the US is to deny the role of Ukrainians and Russians ie locals in creating the wreck that the Ukraine is today. 

    The US is the convenient alibi for the world’s ills. At least in my estimation. 

    • BackRowHeckler November 16, 2019 at 10:47 am #

      Good assessment, V.

      That about sums it up.

      A convenient alibi for the world’s ills, a bastion of racism and white supremacy etc, but half the world’s people want to emigrate here. Go figure.


      • volodya November 16, 2019 at 10:55 am #

        The US is the number one destination from what I hear. Maybe it’s better to be a hot-dog vendor in NYC than an engineer in Tehran.

        • ellipsis November 16, 2019 at 2:05 pm #

          By design. When the world revolves around money, go to where the money is.

          That will last as long as the money illusion does.

    • GreenAlba November 16, 2019 at 11:12 am #

      “And Iran is their country and if entertainment and alcohol and debauchery is what they want, then it’s up to them to get it”

      I think a lot of them would just like to be able to walk down the street without the religious police slapping them about because they’ve shown half an inch of wrist or their head covering is a few millimetres too far back.

      And from the documentation I’ve been receiving, unsolicited, for years from ‘Liberty’, they’d like not to be removed from their jobs, flung in jail and tortured for saying something against the regime.

      But yes, they’ll have to sort it out themselves. The west doesn’t seem to agree that they should sort out their nuclear activities themselves, though, for some reason.

      • beantownbill. November 16, 2019 at 1:02 pm #

        America’s involvement in the Middle East is all about the oil. The dollar’s status as the world’s reserve currency is based on oil. The US’ power is based on the dollar being the go-to currency in the world for financial transactions.

        Should a large percentage of the world’s oil be in the hands of countries unfriendly to us, then we lose our reserve status. If that happens, the US would not be able to finance its badly-run economy. The country would collapse. That explains our actions against Iran, Iraq, Venezuela, all of our so-called ally Saudi Arabia’s enemies, Russia and Ukraine.

        Unfortunately, our economy is so screwed up, that despite our government’s attempts, it is inevitable that the dollar eventually loses its reserve status. You think the US is polarized now, you ain’t seen nothing yet when that happens.

        • ellipsis November 16, 2019 at 2:01 pm #

          Our economy’s not screwed up, it’s simply out of gas. The ROI of of fossil fuels is rapidly falling, and like the tide going out, that all too soon reveals who’s swimming naked based on the illusory benefits it once provided. Likewise, the illusory benefit of the US’s former military hegemony is rapidly drying up as well. Nuclear superiority has proven to be a false promise, since it’s long since proven to be an empty threat, and the actual military threat has likewise long since been sold off to the highest bidders in the interests of profits for the few before the people who support them.

          The US – no matters who’s in charge – is now little more than a failed state waiting for the inevitable collapse and dissolution. And that’s hardly the harsh analysis, that’s just the plain truth.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2019 at 2:34 pm #

            Like that Star Trek episode: the alien wizard sputters, “I have the power”. She replies, “But you are afraid to use it”. So we might as well not have it. And that may be for the best since other countries “have the power” too.

            Imagine if we had never opened our borders though. Two hundred twenty million Americans, 90% White. That would have been real power – the power to last and withstand whatever happens to the rest of the world.

          • ellipsis November 16, 2019 at 2:59 pm #

            Imagine if we had never opened our borders though. Two hundred twenty million Americans, 90% White

            True that, but you ignore the more malignant force within. Most of which openly masquerades as “white” as well. It’s not the “poor” we should fear. Are you purposely obtuse?

  42. malthuss November 16, 2019 at 11:02 am #

    Adam Schiff is handling these whining babies

    Is that a reference to this— I searched and our esteemed JHK
    website appears–

    The Sound of Shoes Dropping in the Night – Kunstler

    Oct 25, 2019Rummors about Schiff, pedo gate, murder at Standard Hotel. Trump tweets ‘liddle’ several times. Schiff had a [ get this] a baby massage charity. The rabbit hole goes real deep on this one.

  43. malthuss November 16, 2019 at 11:07 am #

    In Woody Allens film, ‘Annie Hall’ I think the last scene ends at The Source. And Woody mentions ‘here we are at the Source.’
    I ate there once. Ok food, as I recall.


    I watch a docu on a cult called ‘The Source’, operated out in LA in the 70s, ran a popular vegetarian restaurant. The guy who headed it up was a crazy ex marine from Ohio.
    Did you know of it, or know any members?

    Why all the cults in LA back in the day? IT WAS THE 1960S.
    City full of suckers? YES–SO CAL IS SUCKER LAND.

    Now the cultism is more up scale–Tony Robbins, etc.

    • BackRowHeckler November 16, 2019 at 1:25 pm #

      Tony Robbins

      A friend of my wife went to her senior prom with Tony Robbins

      In Glendale

      She had some good stories

      • BackRowHeckler November 16, 2019 at 1:30 pm #

        A Latina Bombshell

      • malthuss November 17, 2019 at 6:36 pm #

        what kind of stories???

        Someone told me that he was in hypnotherapy school w TR
        and said TR was untrustworthy, a bad person I guess.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2019 at 2:37 pm #

      He seems like an ok guy. If you are in the right state of mind, you really can walk on glowing coals. People in many different cultures do it. The body can be made invulnerable to flame or steel. You could stick a spike thru one cheek and out the other, with little pain or blood, and no scarring afterwards.

      • elysianfield November 17, 2019 at 11:20 am #

        “The body can be made invulnerable to flame or steel. You could stick a spike thru one cheek and out the other, with little pain or blood, and no scarring afterwards.”

        No offense, but if you believe what you just posted, Immaculate Conception would be a viable defense if your wife became pregnant without your…direct participation….

        Who’da thought that God was black? Go figure….

      • malthuss November 17, 2019 at 6:37 pm #

        Acupuncturist explained it this way, burning coals dont have the conductivity of a sheet or metal at same temperature.
        Its not the mind but its the lack of conductivity, ergo A CON GAME

  44. volodya November 16, 2019 at 12:03 pm #

    BRH and Majella, I guess I’m a bit behind but I didn’t know until today what FFvCS meant. I googled it. I learn all kinds of stuff here. Last one I think was “Arkancide”. Apparently it’s been making the rounds for a while. Don’t know how I missed it. I should pay more attention.

    For my part, I go back and forth like a metronome – tick-tock-tick-tock – or maybe a pendulum, as to who’s worse in the menagerie of malefactors and the national organizations that nurture them. 

    They say about Italy that political parties there are the legislative arm of criminal gangs or alternatively, that criminal gangs are the armed wing of political parties. One thing is for sure, they work hand-in-glove. For example, Venice is sinking, that’s been known for a long time, yet they can’t get flood abatement efforts off the ground because of pervasive corruption. This being Italy, guess who’s at the bottom of it?

    But there’s different ways of painting these pictures. Never mind the foundation of lies and fraud it’s built on, Wall Street has the surface shine of legitimacy given by age-old law and custom and practice, plus the fluffery of regulatory agencies, not to mention reams and reams of academic theorizing with the respectability all that confers. For my part, I don’t give a crap about any of that, legalized skim is how I see it, instead of casinos there’s glass and steel buildings, instead of guys in counting rooms putting wads of bills into satchels, it’s computer algorithms doing the job. “Management fees” they call it. 

    Camorra, Ndrangheta, Sacra Corona Unita, JPMorgan, Deutsche Bank, Citibank, Los Zetas, Sinaloa, Juarez, they’re all different yet corrosive in their own way. If smooth-talking Wall Street bankers can occupy high office, given the underlying record of corruption, who’s to say that a hard-faced Andean Indian can’t, a guy that made it through the ranks with gun and knife instead of brief-case and law degree?

    Republicans never made any bones about it, they’ve been neck-deep in the graft, according to them as essential a part of America as mom and apple pie. Democrats pretended an adversarial stance, but when it comes down to it, they don’t hesitate, they jump in face-first. 

    I keep hearing that long-time Republican congressmen are retiring, ie declining to run again. In my feverish imaginings this must mean that the Republican Party is shriveling, gasping, dying. We can hope can’t we? Unfortunately, given the numbers of Democrats throwing their hats in the presidential ring, it seems that this other vehicle for legitimized criminality and exploitation has some vim and vigor. 

    Too bad. I wish it were otherwise. Their demise is something I devoutly wish and pray for. 

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    • ellipsis November 16, 2019 at 1:25 pm #

      They say about Italy that political parties there are the legislative arm of criminal gangs or alternatively, that criminal gangs are the armed wing of political parties. One thing is for sure, they work hand-in-glove

      Same as it ever was. I’m reminded of the Tao symbol.


      I keep hearing that long-time Republican congressmen are retiring, ie declining to run again. In my feverish imaginings this must mean that the Republican Party is shriveling, gasping, dying. We can hope can’t we? Unfortunately, given the numbers of Democrats throwing their hats in the presidential ring, it seems that this other vehicle for legitimized criminality and exploitation has some vim and vigor.

      One power waxes as another power wanes. “The Way” expresses itself once again. Never mind that the Yin and the Yang in this case are so closely intertwined as to be indistinguishable.

      Great post!

      The status quo will be preserved.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2019 at 2:46 pm #

      If you had graduated from either Arkham or Miskatonic University, you would understand these things.

  45. SoftStarLight November 16, 2019 at 2:10 pm #

    George Soros, a heroic icon of the Global Progressive movement and associated fifth columns is no doubt one of the wizards behind the curtain of the Impeachment Show. Funny how the star performer, Adam Schiff, has dual Israeli citizenship, like so many in Congress and throughout the government. Soros’ specialty is collapsing whole economies and polities. So it comes as no surprise that we are where we are. Would the Founders allow people with dual citizenship to serve for such important roles or any? But such basic questions are scarce. So really, how can there ever be a real America First? The charades in Washington in reality seem to have little to do with America and everything to do with the destruction of America and the final domination of the international oligarchs and bankers.

    • volodya November 16, 2019 at 2:33 pm #

      It will be a neat trick to survive without the nation state given all the services that a nation state provides guys like Soros, like law enforcement, military protection, a legislature that protects elite interests, and courts that enforce property rights.

      And “rights”, individual or otherwise, have no meaning outside the context of a nation state which has the means to enforce them.

      Private armies? You can persuade young men to risk life and limb for the sake of flag and country, or for the sake of kin and clan. But try telling them it’s glorious to take a bullet for an oligarch.

      The fools trying to subvert the very social structures that they need to survive ironically think they’re the best and the brightest. Makes me laugh.

      • ellipsis November 16, 2019 at 2:50 pm #

        Private armies? You can persuade young men to risk life and limb for the sake of flag and country, or for the sake of kin and clan. But try telling them it’s glorious to take a bullet for an oligarch.

        A thinly veiled concept already. I’m not sure most can distinguish the difference at this point.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2019 at 2:52 pm #

        Good non-answer. Now answer or admit your people have savaged this Nation, a Nation where they have prospered abundantly.

        I admit I don’t get why they hate Trump this much though. Israelis love him. Have American Jews gone off the reservation? Is there a 3rd major pov besides UN Liberalism and Zionism? Or are these folks simply traitors to Zionism and have gone over to Liberalism? It’s quite possible: Israel has people like this too. And Israel have more than two parties, a much healthier political system than we have, especially since all the parties believe in Israel and desire the continued existence of the Jewish People. We lost that here for America and Whites a long time ago.

      • SoftStarLight November 16, 2019 at 6:35 pm #

        Perhaps these Globalist Elites believe they do not need large nation states to prosper. In fact, isn’t it the case that the Global Corporations prefer minimal interference and regulation in trade, laws, standards, etc. These people prefer and are acting upon desires for global government IMO. Global government will likely not be centered in New York City or London. Why not the Middle East, the cradle of the Old World? Either way you can be sure they will employ private armies and will have hideouts/strongholds.

    • ellipsis November 16, 2019 at 2:46 pm #

      “America First” has always been a chimera. A fact the Zionists were of course all too smart to capitalize on. Say what you will about the bastards, they’re smart in the way that all criminals are smart. All of which is why the destruction of the illegitimate criminal empire that inhabits DC is the only path forward. Voting for this or that war criminal is a total non-starter and only feeds the fire.

      Will there be a literal or figurative eventual baptism and redemption of our failed state, you might well ask? Yes, I would say, but it won’t come without a cost. The cost, as always, will be in the form of considerable blood and ill-gotten treasure. Assuming we’re willing to shed any of it, which is by no means a given at this point.

      In the end, it might just finally be time for us Americans to get over ourselves and realize that our day in the historical sun is now over with, and that in spite of all our elite-inspired bullshit, we’re not actually all that, nor do we need to continue to aspire to be. Imagine the load that would be lifted immediately!

      FUCK “the founders” and all that grade school bullshit! Walk YOUR OWN walk and talk YOUR OWN talk!

      • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2019 at 2:58 pm #

        Well I agree with most of that but why fuck the Founders? They wouldn’t have put up with these fucks. A Nation needs a Foundation. Why else have both sides worked so hard to shit on our Heritage in one case or hijack it on the other?

        Start all over? As T.S Elliot said, it would take until your great, great, great, grandchildren to even begin to rebuild anything. And it would be utterly alien to you and you to them.

        The savaged and mongrelized people of old Europe desperately hung onto their Roman heritage. They couldn’t go back to the Pagan Barbarism since that was alien to them now, but they could hold onto the good they had known partially and for a time. Along with the help of Monastaries and Monks, it was enough to bring forth a new culture in time.

        • ellipsis November 16, 2019 at 3:09 pm #

          “The Founders” too have become a chimera. An imagination of an imagination of an…

          New beginnings require new foundations, even if those foundations owe a deep debt to that which went before – as they must. Such judgements are typically only made in retrospect.

          • volodya November 16, 2019 at 3:17 pm #

            You’re onto something. The past persists. Just look at the map of modern Europe. Interesting that it still has the imprint of pre-Roman tribal boundaries. Even the Roman heartland has that. After all this time they’re still there.

            Look at the US government. Bears an uncanny resemblance to the mother country’s doesn’t it, with a few tweaks here and there, like an elected King.

            We set the template at least in part for what comes later.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2019 at 3:44 pm #

            Agree. The Constitution would need to be severely ammended at best – or thrown out.

            I’ve posted a long article again and again on how the Founders were White Nationalists. I’m not sure anyone has ever bothered to read it. People aren’t serious – especially about truths don’t fall in line with their prejudices. If they can’t be bothered to even See who the Founders were, then yeah, best forget about them and start fresh. And they were far from perfect – far too obsessed with money making. So slavish idolization is also a danger.

          • SoftStarLight November 16, 2019 at 7:21 pm #

            Continuity requires a somber remembrance and reverence for our past and our ancestors. The Founders were are ancestors. They are the reason we are here. That is not a chimera. A society without roots and a foundation is a chimera. It doesn’t mean we don’t adapt or have to start over from time to time. But it’s the reality. They were White Nationalists and we will have to be too again if we are to survive as a distinct people.

      • volodya November 16, 2019 at 3:05 pm #

        You can have an argument about what kinds of relationships form the foundations of society or nation-state. But without question one of the basic questions is this; is the nation-state there to serve your interests? Or is it the other way around?

        The relationship between state and citizen was (and is) seen one way in countries like China and Nazi Germany, and a contrary way in places like the US and the UK and its various dominions.

        The other question is this; is the nation-state you’re living in actually serving your interests? Is it actually serving the interests of the citizenry as a whole? Or are you getting screwed over? Is it serving the interests of just a few people?

        As you suggested but didn’t say, the Constitution, for all its durability over time, and its flexibility over the centuries in accommodating new circumstances, isn’t written in stone. It is, in the end, a man-made document.

        • ellipsis November 16, 2019 at 3:27 pm #

          I continue to LOL at the idea of “Constitutions”, much as I do at “Holy Books” of whatever flavor. I realize the appeal and sometimes appeal of rulebooks for how to think for those who are morally and/or mentally impaired as evidently most of the current western adult population is, but in spite of myself, I often find myself wondering, are these fucking people simply MENTALLY RETARDED?

          Giving “The Founders” the benefit of the doubt, I can only conclude that they arrived at the same conundrum and concluded the same.

          • volodya November 16, 2019 at 3:39 pm #

            Maybe they did. Maybe given the historical circumstances they were living in at the time, they decided that a written set of rules would be better than a hodge-podge of statute, custom or what- have-you such as existed in the UK.

            The problem though is amending that written document. Given that the US has got at least two internal countries wrestling for control of the nation, with an internal border at the Mason-Dixon Line, it’s practically impossible to change what there is. The northern half hopes for demographic change in the southern half to mask their intellectual bankruptcy and to help them win power over the southern nation. I don’t think that will work. As I’ve said before, Mr and Mrs Lopez have got material concerns that do not interest the Democrats in the least.

          • ellipsis November 16, 2019 at 4:01 pm #

            The problem is that the original configuration was nothing more than an ad hoc arrangement meant to persist for the immediate future. That future, like all such futures, has long since passed. That’s why all constitutions, if they are truly to be “living documents,” must be amended regularly, if they are to be meaningful to future adherents. If not, they become “dead documents” which people rightfully ridicule and ignore – or even worse, WORSHIP! – at their own expense. That’s the stage we’re at now. We worship a constitution that no longer serves us and which has been long since been usurped by those who own us in any case.

            Regardless of any of that, the original constitution was written for a much a smaller country in a much simpler time. The fact that it has been wholesale hijacked for other purposes in the interim should hardly be surprising.

          • BackRowHeckler November 16, 2019 at 4:15 pm #


            In a new US Constitution

            What would be in it?


          • BackRowHeckler November 16, 2019 at 4:16 pm #

            Or should I ask, what would be left out that’s in there now?

          • ellipsis November 16, 2019 at 4:34 pm #


            Good questions, both beyond my ken at the moment. But certainly something a whole lot less rigid, I would think.

            In the end, I’m not sure a constitution for such a large nation-state as currently exists is a good idea in the first place. I think we probably need to be a much smaller and ethnically/geographically/politically/philosophically diverse organization of states in the first place. Like any good divorce, why fight, when we can simply divide and go our own ways happily?

          • Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2019 at 4:58 pm #

            The most basic question of all is “Who?”. Who are Americans? Whose in and whose out? Now that we know that multiracial societies don’t work, the answer becomes, “Only Whites”. Next question? Who is White? Obviously a bit more difficult but not insolvable. And of course, Which Whites? All Whites? No, obviously not Marxists or PC traitors who hate us and our Tradition and want to end it and us.

            And now that we have genetic testing, we can set parameters and make them stick. No more sneaky passing if your phenotype ends up looking White enough to pass. Your kids might not pass since the genotype remains mixed even if you personally rolled all sevens in the genetic lottery.

          • GreenAlba November 16, 2019 at 6:48 pm #

            “Who are Americans? Whose in and whose out? ”

            Remedial English class is over that way. Check in with Mrs Lopez.

          • SoftStarLight November 16, 2019 at 7:31 pm #

            And we also need to determine where White lands will be. After the collapse the Hispanic hordes will take the southwest probably and myriad foreign populations including Jihadis will dominate the Eastern coastlands and whats left of megalopolis.

          • benr November 17, 2019 at 9:38 am #

            That is the way of fools to ridicule that which they fail to understand.
            Our Constitution is the framework by which our country was founded.
            Those who seek to alter it seek more power since that is what limits the power of our government.
            The line that its a living breathing document is foolish and it should only be changed to weaken government not empower it more.

          • elysianfield November 17, 2019 at 5:54 pm #

            “In a new US Constitution

            What would be in it?”

            Uhh, Don’t do Evil?

            Not familiar with the reference? Google it….

      • SoftStarLight November 16, 2019 at 7:09 pm #

        Then what do you suggest we aspire to be? A thriving civilization requires the aspiration of a higher purpose, a more enlightened state of existence, etc. Walking your own walk and talking your own is what we have been doing since at least the mid-20th century. And we are dying. A new direction is coming. And if we are to live then it requires realizing that the individual is a part of the whole but not greater than the whole.

  46. Janos Skorenzy November 16, 2019 at 6:01 pm #

    The Chosen and the Woke, William Voegeli, amren.com

    The Knesset, Israel’s parliament, passed a law last year declaring Israel “the national home of the Jewish people, in which it fulfills its natural, cultural, religious, and historical right to self-determination.” One might suppose that this “Basic Law” (akin to a constitutional amendment) would be as contentious as the Vatican proclaiming itself Catholic.

    To the contrary. Although the “nation-state law” changed no policies and affirmed a relationship between Jews and Israel that had been manifest since the country’s founding in 1948, the legislation was exceptionally controversial. One of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s main political opponents, opposition leader Tzipi Livni, charged that its passage showed that “this government is racist.” The leader of Israel’s alliance of Arab political parties called it “a law of Jewish supremacy,” while another Arab member of the Knesset described it as “the official beginning of fascism and apartheid.”

    The reaction in America was more temperate but still critical.


    Thirteen left-of-center Jewish organizations issued a letter claiming that the new law would “give constitutional protection to policies that could discriminate against minorities.” One of the organizations, J Street (the “home for pro-Israel, pro-peace Americans”), said that the Basic Law “sends a message to the 20 percent of Israelis who are not Jewish that they are, at best, second-class citizens in the land of their birth.”

    Netanyahu conceded nothing to these detractors:

    We enshrined in law the basic principle of our existence. Israel is the nation-state of the Jewish people, that respects the individual rights of all its citizens.


    We the People


    New York Times columnist Max Fisher, who wrote that the nation-state law, one small country’s largely symbolic enactment, embodied a dilemma that is generating controversy around the world: which takes precedence, national identity or democracy? There is, he said, “a growing backlash to the idea that countries should privilege democracy” in favor of the demand that “identity will come first.” Fisher characterized this trend as a reversal of the modern project, which favored both democracy and national self-determination, understood as “one nation for one people.” If the two principles clashed, “an informal consensus” had always favored “softening” national identity for the sake of democracy, the more fundamental imperative. Israel’s new Basic Law, he argued, was one of several signs that this consensus is unraveling.


    Race to the Bottom

    The long-standing egalitarian misgivings about nationhood have recently become more explicit and strident. As political scientist Joseph Cropsey discerned more than 50 years ago, liberals (in the modern, American, left-of-center sense of the term) have always viewed “the dividedness of men grouped according to their nations” as arbitrary and pernicious. Those committed to equality as the highest political good believe that the groups divided in this way can never be mutually respectful for long.


    Egalitarianism’s most recent iteration, the “Great Awokening,” is “the rapidly changing political ideology of white liberals that is remaking American politics,” in the words of Zach Goldberg, writing for Tablet magazine. A study of America’s white liberals, of course, will find them preoccupied with race relations, especially those between blacks and whites. The Great Awokening antedates Donald Trump’s 2016 election victory. Goldberg, a political science doctoral student at Georgia State University who examines polling data, reports that 25% of whites who self-identified as liberals in 2010 considered racial discrimination against blacks to be a “very serious” problem, virtually the same proportion as over the preceding 15 years. “By 2015, however, this figure had almost doubled to 47%, and then increased further to 58% in 2016.”


    The Woke’s righteous indignation is too gratifying for them to relinquish it out of deference to mere facts. Goldberg points out that an unarmed African-American male is about as likely to be killed by a police officer as to be struck by lightning. The New York Times devoted flood-the-zone coverage to the murder of seven-year-old Jazmine Barnes in December 2018, despite the fact that the shooting took place in Houston, 1,400 miles from Manhattan. Television networks and other national media also treated it as a matter of high urgency. Jazmine was black, and her mother told the police that she had been shot by a white man in a pickup truck. One week after the shooting, however, police arrested two black suspects, offering the theory that they mistook the car Jazmine was riding in for one occupied by rival gang members. The arrests immediately halted the gathering national crisis over a white-on-black hate-crime, rendering Jazmine’s murder another very sad local story, all the sadder for being unexceptional, and of little further interest to the Times. The newspaper’s ensuing cover-your-ass article on how trauma can impair eyewitnesses’ recollections did not examine the ways confirmation bias distorts journalists’ judgment.

    Extrapolating from race relations, the Great Awokening is so strongly opposed to invidious distinctions in general as to have turned “other” into a verb, one that denotes and condemns a moral transgression. In 2016, for example, the Huffington Post castigated vice presidential candidate Mike Pence for “his long record of othering the [gay] community.” According to sociologist Yiannis Gabriel, “Othering is the process of casting a group, an individual or an object into the role of the ‘other’ and establishing one’s own identity through opposition to and, frequently, vilification of this Other.” Goldberg finds that white liberals are twice as enthused as white non-liberals (87% to 42%) about diversity, formulated in American National Election Studies surveys as the question of whether “having an increasing number of people of many different races, ethnic groups and nationalities in the United States makes this country a better place to live.” On this issue, blacks (54%) and Hispanics (46%) score much closer to non-liberal whites, though we can be confident that liberals won’t hold such retrograde attitudes against them.

    Breeding Contempt

    Ultimately, of course, a world cleansed of other-ing must also renounce us-ing. Whether it’s a softball team or a nation, a human grouping to which everyone does or can belong is one to which nobody belongs in any way that matters or makes sense. No group can have an inside unless it also has an outside. The meaning and importance of being inside will, inevitably, turn on how those who are inside define and defend the boundaries that distinguish them from others.

    The response to these conflicting imperatives is, unsurprisingly, incoherent. Goldberg finds that white liberals are the only group in the history of public opinion surveys to exhibit a “pro-outgroup bias,” a clear preference for non-whites over whites. He describes it as a “very recent, and unprecedented, phenomenon.” This sounds like a confirmed sighting of “oikophobia,” philosopher Roger Scruton’s term to describe xenophobia’s opposite: fear and loathing of the close and familiar in favor of that which is unlike oneself.

    Perhaps, however, white liberals’ aversion to whites is really just an aversion to whites who aren’t liberal. In that case, the pro-outgroup bias against whites in general would really be a pro-ingroup bias in favor of white liberals. A recent study in the Journal of Experimental Psychology found that after reading about white privilege, white liberals did not become more sympathetic to impoverished blacks, but did become notably less sympathetic to impoverished whites. Journalist Zaid Jilani speculates that “social liberals are internalizing white-privilege lessons in a way that flattens the image of whites, portraying all of them as inherently privileged. So if a white person is poor, it must be his or her own fault.” Of course, after November 2016 many oikophobic tirades held that lower-class whites were not merely losers but menaces. Essayist and editorial cartoonist Tim Kreider, for example, wrote that most Trump voters are “just evil” by virtue of “not much caring about other people’s suffering.”


    The only legitimate othering takes place when, in pursuit of social justice, the Woke call out somebody on the wrong side of what they regard as the one truly valid division among humans, that between the Privileged and the Oppressed. The former need not have personally victimized or exploited the latter, or even said bad things or harbored bad thoughts about them. The wickedness of the Privileged encompasses benefiting from past oppressions, even those in the distant past, and complicitly tolerating today’s unfair systems that mock and thwart the aspirations of the Oppressed. So, for example, there is “Racism without Racists,” which sociologist Eduardo Bonilla-Silva used as the title for a book of his in 2003. Such racism transpires when America’s whites engage in the “color-blind racism” that leads them to accept and perpetuate, rather than work to dismantle, the “structural” or “systemic” racism that oppresses blacks and other minority groups.


    To suggest that not all victims are simply victims, or that not all their difficulties derive from being victimized, is to “blame the victim,” which is not just an intellectual error but a moral offense. Those who blame the victim further victimize that victim by reinforcing the structural oppression afflicting him.

    The prominent writer Ta-Nehisi Coates denies, for example, that such dysfunctional behaviors as teenage pregnancy, drug use, dropping out of school, or declining to find and hold a job have any relationship to high poverty and crime rates in predominantly black areas. Rather, he insists, the root cause of all these behaviors and problems is white supremacy, and we have no reason or right to expect that any of them will change until we eradicate every aspect of white supremacy.


    The last full measure of oppression consists in having the Woke absolve you of moral responsibility, culminating in their determination that you are incapable of moral agency. Whatever the Oppressed do or don’t do is a function of what has been done to them by their oppressors. Such solicitude is indistinguishable from condescension and ultimately contempt, a fact not lost on some objects of that solicitude. Since 1994 the National Opinion Research Center’s General Social Survey has asked respondents whether they agreed or disagreed with this statement: “Irish, Italians, Jewish, and many other minorities overcame prejudice and worked their way up. Blacks should do the same without special favors.” Dissecting the results, Goldberg shows that white liberals were only half as likely as blacks to reject that proposition in 1994. By 2016, after white liberals’ opposition to that statement had increased and blacks’ opposition to it had declined, the former were half-again as likely as the latter to disagree with it. That is, white liberals have come to believe that blacks don’t fully appreciate how burdened they are by white racism.

    Zionism and Racism

    The Great Awokening’s defining features, then, include: its roots in the logic of left-liberalism; its reduction of any and every complex sociopolitical reality to designated oppressors’ abuse of designated victims; its preoccupation, in particular, with the plight of American blacks; and its use of that plight as a template for all kinds of oppression, which effectively means for all clashes of political interest or opinion. These qualities explain how some can denounce as racist and fascist a law affirming that the world’s only Jewish nation-state is a Jewish nation-state. In the Great Awokening, to quote Goldberg again:

    the same empathic outrage over the bigoted persecution by the “privileged” against the vulnerable…is extended out to the international arena where Israel is a fixture of every moral drama. A white supremacist America holds people of color down and keeps the door shut for others, while a “Zionist supremacist” Israel behaves in much the same way toward its minorities of color.

    Goldberg points out that, from the time when public opinion surveys started asking the question in 1978, white liberals were more sympathetic to Israel than to the Palestinians…until 2016, after which they have consistently regarded Palestinians as the aggrieved party in this dispute.


    It turned out, however, that even the Holocaust established Jewish victimhood only temporarily. Among the Woke, writes Goldberg, “Jews are perceived to be privileged — at least in comparison to other historically victimized groups.”

    Having made a full recovery from the Holocaust, Jews are no longer the downtrodden collective that white liberals can readily sympathize with. Other groups lower on the privilege hierarchy and less tainted by association with whiteness now have priority.

    In particular, these victimier victims have come to include the Palestinians. In the belief that Palestinians have, as a rule, darker complexions than Israel’s Ashkenazim (Jews whose ancestors lived in Europe for centuries), the Woke apply the implicit rule of their privilege hierarchy, which holds that melanin is the most reliable proxy for moral worth.

    The New Left and Third World liberation movements, interconnected ideologically and operationally, began to denounce Israel’s treatment of Palestine’s Arabs in the 1960s. In 1967 the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC), originator of the Black Power movement, published a section on “The Palestine Problem” in its newsletter, with a cartoon implying Israel or perhaps Jews in general oppressed both blacks and Arabs. When Jewish groups withdrew support from the SNCC in response, the SNCC’s next newsletter warned, “Don’t get caught on the wrong side of the revolution.”


    Equally venomous and unhinged arguments, however, can lead to a long, comfortable career in American higher education. Judith Butler, an academic superstar, told an interviewer in 2010 that Israelis carried out military actions with the mindset that “any and all Palestinian lives that are killed or injured are understood no longer to be lives, no longer understood to be living, no longer understood even to be human in a recognizable sense.” Instead, Palestinians’ deaths in military confrontations leave Israelis “thrilled, because they think their safety and well-being and happiness are being purchased, are being achieved through this destruction.” In Visual Occupations (2015), UCLA literature and gender studies professor Gil Hochberg described posters in Gaza and the West Bank honoring those Palestinians who had died carrying out suicide bombings against Israelis as “a defiant practice of anticolonial national remembering.” Jasbir Puar, a women’s studies professor at Rutgers University, gave a talk at Vassar College in 2016 in which she claimed that Israel killed Palestinians to harvest their organs, conducted medical experiments on Palestinian children, and intentionally bombed hospitals and nursing homes. When her accusations were subsequently challenged, she threatened to sue anyone who made an audio recording of her lecture available to the public.


    The academy’s multiculturalist vanguard, in particular, has helped shape mainstream liberal rhetoric and shifted its “Overton window,” the boundary dividing thinkable from unthinkable policy options. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, a candidate for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination, proclaims that the future is intersectional (that is, one in which prejudices against the oppressed overlap and compound one another).


    Another Democratic presidential candidate, former U.S. Representative Beto O’Rourke of Texas, has called Benjamin Netanyahu a “racist” who does not represent “the true will of the Israeli people,” a doubtful assessment of a politician who recently became the longest-serving prime minister in his country’s 71-year history. Peter Beinart — Atlantic columnist, former New Republic editor, and a self-described proponent of “liberal Zionism” who faults Israel’s dealings with Palestinians for failing to live up to the ideals of “human rights, equal citizenship, and territorial compromise” — also considers Netanyahu a racist, but one who reflects Israelis’ true will quite accurately. In a column for the Forward, Beinart deplored the results of Israel’s April 2019 elections, which were inconclusive in the crucial respects (there will be new elections in September) but did mark a clear defeat for what remains of that country’s Left. The Labor Party, in particular, which was dominant during Israel’s first decades, received 4.4% of the popular vote.


    The idea that those designated as oppressors commit their oppressions because they are morally deficient, rather than in response to complex and often harrowing political dilemmas, is wokeness distilled.


    The Woke interpretation {snip} . . . : responsibility for the hostile relations between Israel and the Palestinians belongs to Israel. Period. Palestinian acts of violence go unmentioned or, if acknowledged, are treated as responses to Israeli actions.


    Israel’s location on the privilege hierarchy is so determinative that even its victories on the Great Awokening scorecard register as defeats. Israel is notably tolerant regarding sexual orientation, especially in comparison to the rest of the Middle East, where the treatment of gays ranges from disapproving to barbaric. Benjamin Netanyahu has had the effrontery to point this out, telling the U.S. Congress in 2011 that the Middle East is “a region where women are stoned, gays are hanged, Christians are persecuted.” Sarah Schulman, a City University of New York humanities professor, dismisses such rhetoric as “pinkwashing” — a “public relations tool” and “deliberate strategy to conceal the continuing violations of Palestinians’ human rights behind an image of modernity signified by Israeli gay life.”

    No Place Like Home

    Billions of pixels have given their lives to prolong the debate over whether Israeli-Palestinian hostilities should conclude with a “two-state solution” or a “one-state solution.” That is, will there be a newly created Palestinian state sharing a negotiated border with Israel, or a binational state wherein Jews and Palestinians are fellow citizens? Less attention has been paid to the question of whether, and under what circumstances, either of these options amounts to a solution, as opposed to an arrangement that recasts but does not settle the tensions between the two peoples.


    Absent an unmistakable, binding Palestinian commitment to share peaceably with Jews the land they have fought over for nearly a century, no “solution” will actually solve anything. For Israel to submit to a two-state solution, in the face of the Palestinian and American pressure Peter Beinart calls for, would amount to a choice of protracted national suicide. Israel would acquiesce in the creation of an adjacent sovereign state whose animating principle was Israel’s destruction. The one-state solution, where Israel would be absorbed into a new nation-station where Jews are a minority and their implacable enemies a majority, differs only by accelerating the suicide timetable.


    Americans have more pressing reasons to reject the Great Awokening than Israel’s national security, but none more clarifying. The case of Israel demonstrates that national identity is less a threat to democracy than a prerequisite for it. As the Hoover Institution’s Peter Berkowitz wrote after the passage of the nation-state law, “Since the largest viable political unit to which citizens can plausibly consent — even tacitly — is a state characterized by shared traditions, language, and political hopes, the modern tradition of freedom reinforces the case for nationalism.” The future of Israel, America, and other nations will be shaped by the contest between the Great Awokening and Somewhereism. If the latter prevails, it will be because national majorities around the world come to feel that “[t]his is our nation, language, and flag,” is not just a legitimate thing for an Israeli prime minister to say, but also for patriotic citizens of any decent country to believe.

    JS: Good article though severely snipped by the censorious Amren Moyle. You can see the original if you so choose. Apparently, many if not most Jews, at least in the West, have succumbed to the Liberal mind poison. My brother was right: they are basically just Liberals at this point. I was woken by classical White Nationalism which took the conpiratorial viewpoint whenever possible. They are full of cunning, but it is the same cunning that White Liberals display when they flee California and then honk at Kdog – and of course seek to make wherever they go into the same hellhole is where they fled, all the while pretending they are just seeking clean air and good schools. The article doesn’t get into how powerful they are in Israel. Apparently not powerful enough to overthrow the Zionists, at least not yet.

    This is how its done. You can see a great mind (mine, at least in some ways) beginning to self correct. Go thou and do likewise. Start with investigating how the Founders were for all intents and purposes, White Nationalists. And as the article says, if you want to keep your nation, you have to keep it for one group – Your Own.

    • malthuss November 16, 2019 at 7:15 pm #

      For some reason I was looking at a list of great books.
      It listed T. Nehisi as a great great author.

      So I had to check the 1 star reviews, as it linked to reviews.

      Ta nehisi coates
      “A eulogy for Prince Travis” would have been a better title than “Between the World and Me,” especially since there is nothing between the world and Mr. Coates other than his own insecurities and hatred.

      As I read through the book I felt as if I was reading and listening CNN transcripts of incidents of police force against black men.
      Between the World and Me is no great literary work, but rather more of the same tropes about white people’s dominance and subordination over black people as if black Americans like Colin Powell, Condoleezza Rice, Thurgood Marshall, Deval Patrick and so many other American black men and women have not succeeded in a world created by Whites…..inventions and math and science and even governance..as opposed to African tribalism as a form of dominance over an African tribe.

      he went on to relish and admire French culture and people as if French culture was never a part of the white, European, Western world that he claims to deplore. Sorry, Mr. Coates, but you are a Westerner, not an African, and the opportunities and successes that you have had are because of Western ideals.

      ….the author of this book visited my college last year and it was almost weeks after a mob of African-American beat up a young Caucasian couple close to campus.

      Looking a videos and testimony, it looked like it was race related. Both went to the hospital. Someone in the crowd asked him a question about why things like that happen near our campus…and he just danced around the question.

      • BackRowHeckler November 16, 2019 at 9:25 pm #

        What’s Tanehi Coates real name?

        Willy Brown?

        I wonder if he’s related to Maya Angelou, another phony name?

        • Majella November 17, 2019 at 12:57 am #

          What’s a ‘phony’ name? A nom de plume (like BackRowHeckler)? A nom de guerre (Janos Skorenzy)?

    • SoftStarLight November 16, 2019 at 8:12 pm #

      What a deadly outcome for Israel if indeed the Progressives take power. The Muslim Arabs will take over within a few generations if diversity is accepted as a moral good the way it is here. The Zionists must be respected for their dedication to their own. If only we had that same dedication to self preservation here. But I believe we can have it again. In many ways our awakening is only just beginning. We have lost so much ground too but where there is a will there is a way.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 17, 2019 at 2:03 am #

        You are far more serious than these people who didn’t even bother reading it. Walter once called you “Softy”, but you are just as much Steel.

        One difference (big) between Jewish Liberals and White Liberals though – the Jews don’t hate themselves or their Zionist brothers or lower or lower middle class Jews. Compare that with how White Liberals see their White political opponents and poor Whites (so much for their Marxism, eh? ). More: the hatred White and Jewish Liberals have for Conservative Whites is one of their greatest bonds. So who is the leading partner here? Obviously the Jews are since their ideology doesn’t compel them to hate their own people or work for their extinction. You reading this, bro? Point for me.

        And again, they don’t hate themselves or call themselves “the cancer of humanity” as Susan Sontag (Jew) called Whites. That’s a big difference. They aren’t as sick as Liberal Whites are in other words.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 17, 2019 at 2:05 am #

          I seem to be working back towards Conspiracy again. Oh well – the Truth is somewhere in the middle. But yes, a very thought provoking article.

          • SoftStarLight November 17, 2019 at 12:48 pm #

            You’re right. I think White Liberals believe that in hating and shunning other Whites (the majority), they somehow absolve themselves of their “White Privilege”. After all, White Privilege is the new Original Sin and reason for the Fall. It’s also the psychology of the scapegoat. And in today’s propaganda, as has been for a long time now, the most evil people on the planet are White people. And the propaganda is not really escapable unless you go offgrid. So we are in a bad place. It hopefully will change once White Liberals realize none of their virtue signaling will help them escape oppression. But they may not have any friends by that point.

            There is always conspiracy IMHO. But just how much there is cannot be determined with any certainty. You’re measured consideration of conspiracy is wise. When you don’t have a lot of inside knowledge of what’s really going on the imagination can run wild. I let mine do that maybe a little too much sometimes. But then I recall that saying that in many cases Reality is stranger than Fiction.

          • Majella November 17, 2019 at 2:14 pm #

            ‘ There is always conspiracy IMHO. But just how much there is cannot be determined with any certainty. You’re measured consideration of conspiracy is wise. When you don’t have a lot of inside knowledge of what’s really going on the imagination can run wild. I let mine do that maybe a little too much sometimes.’

            Res ipso loquitur.

        • malthuss November 17, 2019 at 6:41 pm #

          Mind matters


  47. BackRowHeckler November 16, 2019 at 7:14 pm #


    Ohio State 56

    Rutgers 21

    Not too bad. You could have made some money betting on the home team.


    • Q. Shtik November 16, 2019 at 8:51 pm #

      Not too bad. – brh


      I think Rutgers third TD near the end of the game was basically a gift from the officials.

  48. malthuss November 16, 2019 at 7:19 pm #

    You possess not a billionth the brilliance of mind of our beloved Vlad.

    W R T–
    “Who are Americans? Whose in and whose out? ”

    Remedial English class is over that way.

    [who, whose, who is].

    • GreenAlba November 16, 2019 at 8:18 pm #

      There’s room for you too, malthie old chap. 🙂

      And for any of your mates whose English is so bad and who’s in need of a brush up.

      Tragic. Said Mrs Lopez.

      • GreenAlba November 16, 2019 at 8:20 pm #

        and *anyone* who’s in need of…

        • malthuss November 16, 2019 at 8:24 pm #

          The Brits did not have word contractions.
          It was the bloody Brits in the new world who didnt have time to speak properly.

          • Majella November 17, 2019 at 12:59 am #

            “didn’t”… sheesh

          • GreenAlba November 17, 2019 at 5:49 am #

            Janos has a more leisurely life. As do you. And you both had the benefit of a free education.

            Janos is particularly concerned about the preservation of his ‘culture’, which is the only reason it was worth remarking upon, since the subject of non-white educational standards is repeatedly brought up here.

            Mrs Lopez is disappointed. And not just with the organ grinder but with the monkey, who came out with ‘The Founders were are ancestors’.

            Hahaha. Hahahahahaha. The Founders are mightily disappointed too to find their name in a sentence like that. They agree with Mrs Lopez. 🙂

          • SoftStarLight November 17, 2019 at 1:08 pm #

            Of course its apparently too difficult to judge the book not by its cover. And thus do the commoners get lost in chasing words and syllables rather than ideas and dreams. Some ideas and dreams being far too advanced for village mediocrity. The Founders are foreigners to you anyway so why are you interested leprechaun?

          • GreenAlba November 17, 2019 at 1:36 pm #

            “Some ideas and dreams being far too advanced for village mediocrity. ”


            You think that stuff is original? We’ve been there before. Graveyards attest to it.

            Even allowing for the missing comma, I have no idea how ‘leprechaun’ would relate to me.

            But if I see Interested Leprechaun around, I’ll tell him you were asking after him.

            Words can be funny when people pride themselves on their special culture and other people’s apparent inability to share it, owing to their, y’know, educational inferiority.

          • GreenAlba November 17, 2019 at 1:38 pm #

            And you have an awful lot to say about Europe for someone who thinks people not from your country can’t use the word ‘Founders’. Even to pull your leg.

        • malthuss November 16, 2019 at 8:24 pm #


      • malthuss November 16, 2019 at 8:25 pm #

        ???? ME??

    • Janos Skorenzy November 17, 2019 at 2:12 am #

      Thank you. I think you are right. Picture a staid older woman in tweed. After a drink or two she will proudly show off her French and make it perfectly clear that she is NOT “into” (the common touch!) trannies. Oh the pomposity…..

      Maj, another golden girl, sports a Maori necklace. Alba doesn’t really approve but prides herself on her tolerance and in any case, they believe exactly the same about almost everything so Maj does basically win Alba’s approval.

      • Majella November 17, 2019 at 2:59 am #


      • Majella November 17, 2019 at 3:35 am #

        Really, Janos, your flippant arrogance is only eclipsed by your pomposity. Yes, you are articulate but that doesn’t mean you don’t talk horse shit (almost) all the time.

      • GreenAlba November 17, 2019 at 6:08 am #

        “Picture a staid older woman in tweed. ”

        You may be thinking of the Queen, Janos. We have nothing in common. And certainly not our clothing. Did I say ‘common’?

      • GreenAlba November 17, 2019 at 6:39 am #

        “she is NOT “into” (the common touch!) trannies. Oh the pomposity…..”

        What does that actually mean? Sorry you’re butthurt, as you folks say. Remedial English grammar pocketbooks for culture vultures like yourself are everywhere.

        Unlike tweed, although my dad did have a couple of tweed jackets back in the 60s. The only Tweed I’m familiar with these days is the river ‘twixt the big elephant and us.


        • Majella November 17, 2019 at 8:00 am #

          I suspect Karen Matheson is a better representation of you in 1992 (aged 30 something) than Janos ever conjure up in his shrivelled imagination, GA.

          Janos, however would most likely be found here:


          • GreenAlba November 17, 2019 at 8:38 am #

            Oh dear, they’re grim!

            I fear Janos would not be impressed by my lack of sartorial elegance. ‘Casual’ does me fine. Although I think the purple-with-a-red-hat stage is still a couple of decades away:


            (also from 1992 – must have been a creative year!)

            But Karen M does have a good voice. I have about half a dozen of Capercaillie’s albums from the 90s and the noughties.

            It’s even more haunting when she sings in Gaelic, as in Rob Roy. 🙂


        • Janos Skorenzy November 17, 2019 at 11:36 am #

          I don’t know – you said it after all. Perhaps that you are not sexually attracted to them? That would be the common meaning and you are proud of being common. But I assume you mean you don’t approve of them or their aggressive stance. Likewise, Churchill didn’t approve of massive colored immigration into the Britain. But the fool having served his purpose was shoved aside by the real Power Brokers – as will people like you. The Revolution will have many casualties, including some of the Revolutionaries.

          • GreenAlba November 17, 2019 at 1:27 pm #

            Proud of being common? I don’t know what that means either.

            I’ve said before MORE THAN ONCE that I don’t approve of sexual AGENDAS. That’s a different thing from accepting that most people are straight and a small minority are gay, the way it’s always been, and that only people with their own AGENDAS can’t cope with that ordinary reality.

            The infinite-variety gender thing just escapes me, even though I know that some people are self-evidently bi-sexual too. Oscar Wilde had a wife and kids.

            I just don’t pay it that much attention. I’ve seem two trans people in the flesh in my entire life. I expect that’s the same for a whole lot of people, unless they frequent dedicated bars and the like. And I don’t know why there has been a relatively sudden flowering of trans people just now (although the total numbers are infinitesimal). Obviously the availability of surgery is a reason in itself and I’d guess that won’t be available for too much longer. Maybe the chemical soup we have obliged youngsters to grow up in has something to do with it. I’ve no idea, which makes my commenting on it rather pointless.

            Who would they sue if they found out it was down to oestrogen-mimicking chemicals in the environment, for example?

            People like me? Revolutionary? I’m just sitting here reading what people are saying and responding to the more egregious bits – and only a tiny amount of them. I don’t ‘approve’ of massive immigration of people of any colour. And I think it’s a shame we’ll have fewer Europeans after Brexit and more people from outside Europe, but them’s the breaks.

            The UK went a-colonising in parts of the world where it shouldn’t have been. Actions have consequences.

          • GreenAlba November 17, 2019 at 1:28 pm #

            *seen* not seem…

          • Majella November 18, 2019 at 3:48 am #

            So you had to have gander, huh? Ah, vanity…they name is not ‘woman’, but in fact Janos…

            (With apologies to Billy S)

    • GreenAlba November 17, 2019 at 9:11 am #

      BTW, Malthuss, my eyesight is fine, but thanks for your consideration. I’m the only member of my sibling group not to wear specs, except on rare occasions when I’m driving. So there’s no need for the constant use of bold caps.

      And if you’re going to attract attention to your post that way, it’s best to double check you’ve got your correction correct. 🙂

      • malthuss November 17, 2019 at 6:46 pm #

        I do not understand what your comment is in regards to?
        My bolding of your handle?
        I did that just for the heck of it.

    • Majella November 18, 2019 at 3:42 am #

      ‘ You possess not a billionth the brilliance of mind of our beloved Vlad.’

      Wow…Janos, you must be thrilled! You’re heading toward ‘Cult’ status…at least among those who see your sophistry as brilliance. The same cohort, I’d wager, as see FFvCS as a Saviour and Speaker of Truth. Congratulations

  49. malthuss November 16, 2019 at 8:26 pm #



    The president of Macalester College is asking his Board of Trustees to remove college founder Edward Duf­field Neill’s name from a campus building following public pressure from student activists and journalists who raised concerns about racist and sexist views the man promoted in the 1800s.

    Macalester President Brian Rosenberg announced his decision on Neill Hall, which was renamed after the founder in 2013, at a faculty meeting this week. He said in a statement that his recommendation “is based on the racism reflected in his historical writings, which are extreme even by the standards of his time.”

    ///// A native of New York City, he received a BA from Cornell University and an MA and a PhD in English from Columbia University.///every damn time???

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  50. sunburstsoldier November 16, 2019 at 8:50 pm #

    Just some thoughts running through my mind I wanted to share:

    If you focus on the good in people you will draw it out. If you focus on the bad you will draw that out instead. When we hate someone we see that within them which is hateful. When we love someone we see that within them which is lovable. Unless we learn to “love one another” when the hard times come we will suffer greatly for it. It’s easy to break a single pencil but impossible to break a handful. Now we have the luxury to be contentious and intransigent with one another, but one day such luxury will not be ours. The time rapidly approaches when forging consensus will be crucial to our survival. Why wait to the last moment? We need to start now.

    • axisboldaslove November 16, 2019 at 11:01 pm #

      Wonderful words, sunburstsoldier. Thank you!

      Most likely, from what I’ve written here the last few weeks probably gives people the impression that I hate all republicans and right wing people. The truth is, there are people in my community who are very conservative, a few even who are big Trump supporters, who are my friends. These are people who would give the shirt off there back for me and visa versa. People with whom I have shed tears for there losses and visa versa. I think some of their political views are completely off the wall and are obviously quite contrary to mine. But I believe in people first and care more about the decency in a persons heart and the goodness in their soul. If I see little or none of either, I’m probably not going to bother getting close. But, for example, when my friend, S., goes on about how great he thinks Trump is, I get him to talking about how much we loves hiking and being in the woods and, BOOM, we are right there, buddies and friends. We know what matters most. This is the only kind of thing that that will save us as a nation.

      • Majella November 17, 2019 at 3:22 am #

        Axis -you’ve described my own personal experience to a tee.

        I’m further challenged by the fact that my mother (85) and two younger brothers, all in NZ, think Trump is just wonderful! The brothers fell into the Conspiracy Rabbit-hole around 20 years ago, and took Mum with them over time. They’re big Infowars & Fox Opinion followers, and every other source of information is lies funded by Soros et al.

        That path (though I’m sure it’s not the only one) leads to all the biases about immigration, the peril facing ‘white’ people and how the whole world is run by paedophiles, and inevitably Trump as Saviour.

        Still, while we occasionally broach the subject, lingering on it is pointless and would destroy the family. I have five other brothers (three in NZ, one in Australia & one in the US) who don’t share the same sad syndrome.

        It’s like a mental illness. All they see, in even the most banal or innocent thing or event is the dastardly hand of…well, it sort of rotates between the Illuminati, the Deep State and the Reptilians of David Eyke. They’d get on well with some of the denizens in here, for sure.

      • sunburstsoldier November 17, 2019 at 9:34 am #

        Agreed my friend. All the jousting back in forth is apparently a characteristic of social media. In the real world we’re just people trying to live our lives as best we can…

    • GreenAlba November 17, 2019 at 6:58 am #

      A lot of it is just banter, sunburst.

      A group of my old schoolmates from the north of England made contact with me six months ago and I’ve joined their WhatsApp group.

      The one I’ve since met up with is in this photo:


      Not just a Brexit voter but a Brexit campaigner! And researcher on their behalf into why they don’t like Boris’ deal. But we’re friends from decades ago.

      She doesn’t know which way I voted as I haven’t volunteered the information, but if the subject comes up the next time we meet I’ll simply tell her that, whatever the reasons we both had for voting the way we did, we were both right. Which is what I think – It’s that kind of issue. And then I think the two of us should leave it alone.

      Although I’m happy to tell her about foolishness I perceive in promoting ‘Global Britain’ and building a third runway at Heathrow in a time of energy penury if she’s interested. 🙂 I doubt the thought of energy penury has ever occurred to her. It certainly wasn’t mentioned during the campaign.

      • Majella November 17, 2019 at 8:23 am #

        Oh, my! I followed the link and ended up in the Brexit candidates’ page…Anne Widdecombe is not only still above ground but is running for a second ‘life’ in the Commons? Will wonder never cease. She was already ‘old’ when we were in the Uk in the early 1990s.

      • sunburstsoldier November 17, 2019 at 9:35 am #

        I agree GreenAlba. A lot of it is just banter…

    • SoftStarLight November 17, 2019 at 1:57 pm #

      Consensus is important, but in a finite and unpredictable world consensus will always be limited in scope and tenuous. Less so upon the assertion of authority and power. And so it will be in the days when there is no luxury. Still you will find intransigent and contentious people. We cannot forget that tribalism is at the heart of human nature and is therefore the first consideration in any “consensus”.

      • sunburstsoldier November 17, 2019 at 6:50 pm #

        Just remember SSL it was Tribalism that crucified the Lord of Glory…

        • sunburstsoldier November 17, 2019 at 10:19 pm #

          As a representative of the Universal Father, Jesus’ mission was to reveal that Universal Father to all humankind. He did not limit his passion and concern to a single, relatively insignificant, tribe on the fringe of Civilization. He thought in terms of the whole world. Had he not been crucified who knows what he may have accomplished on the world level? I’m certain the history of human life on earth post-A.D. would have unfolded quite differently. How do I know this? Simply because his primary dictum was “love one another”.

          • Majella November 18, 2019 at 3:59 am #

            SBS – that’s a fine sentiment.

            I’m atheistic but was brought up in the Catholic tradition, which provides a great deal of biblical knowledge & theological background. It falls well short of Janos’ Jesuit indoctrination, but that’s probably a significant advantage (given his sophistry),

            What you highlight here, to my delight, is the fact that the Jesus character in Christian theology was not racist or judgemental of others failings.

            This is 180 degrees opposed to the ‘philosophy’ of Janos & SSL (and a few others that skirt the issue without the outright declaration of ghetto two main perpetrators of such a vile creed).

            Now let us await Janos’ wrath…(hahaha…)

          • Majella November 18, 2019 at 4:01 am #

            (ghetto?? Typo =the)

          • Majella November 18, 2019 at 4:12 am #

            I also meant to ask – is not your postulation of the possibility Christ would have achieved more if he HADN’T been crucified skirting heresy?

            After all, Christian tradition states that it was a Plan, that He ‘died for our sins’. Without the crucifixion & resurrection story, wouldn’t Yeshua of Nazareth just been one more (of many, purportedly) “messiah” grifters of the time? Playing on the hopes, expectations & fears of an insecure population under foreign rule?


          • sunburstsoldier November 18, 2019 at 5:04 am #


            the problem with Institutional Christianity is that it has buried the original message of Jesus under a bunch of strange beliefs like “Jesus died for our sins”, etc. From the very beginning (right after the crucifixion) the Apostles, and later Paul, turned the simple teachings of their Master into a religion about him. Over the centuries the Catholic version of this distortion added more and more baggage…still, even with all that, Monastic Christianity was able to preserve the essence of Hellenic Civilization during the Medieval ‘Dark Age’, which then ultimately served as the basis for the European Renaissance. Unfortunately the Renaissance threw the baby out with the bathwater, giving rise to Secular Humanism which, although recognizing the Hellenic contributions to Western Civilization, came to deny the underlying, unifying message of Love taught by the Nazarene Carpenter. The West has been, in my opinion at least, on a downhill slide ever since despite its wonderful accomplishments in the realm of Science and Technology.

          • GreenAlba November 18, 2019 at 6:30 am #


            “Without the crucifixion & resurrection story, wouldn’t Yeshua of Nazareth just been one more (of many, purportedly) “messiah” grifters of the time?”

            And the dim bulbs blame Jews forever for what their god allegedly planned all by himself. You couldn’t make it up. Or rather…

            I’d expect a nine-year-old to figure there was something wrong with that logic.

  51. trypillian November 16, 2019 at 11:19 pm #

    There’s really no need to disparage Ukraine. The economic pendulum augers well looking forward. Criminal corrupt entities from the mafia economy to the east which siphons GDP are gradually being eradicated. In spite of the racketeering gangsters, Ukraine will once again surface and become a notable country within the EU fold. It has a highly educated population, vast agricultural areas with the world best black earth soil, earning the title of Europe’s breadbasket. If you like to have a full belly you would find value there. It also happens to have the largest land mass of any European country at 233,834 sq miles, beating out France by 21,000 sq miles. Will Rogers was right – buy land, their not making any more of it. The US should have had agricultural partnerships with Ukraine on a vast scale. Your soybeans, wheat and corn are kept barely alive on one inch of topsoil, infused with tons of toxic fertilizer with depleted aquifers poisoned anyway by fracking.

    Federal Reserve fiat paper is a laughable yardstick at best and ideally belongs in the water closet. Connecticut has industrial activity at only 12% of GDP. The rest belongs to old money banking, insurance and yacht clubs, not exactly forward looking. Sea level rise will soon submerge your grand submarine base there, rather ironic don’t you think. A friend of mine is a Connecticut expat, citing no opportunity as a surveyor. He has duly found employment in the Great White North. He can relate to the infighting and ignorance he experiences here which is nothing new given the gong show of American political chicanery.

    In the August 2019 issue of National Geographic, an article provides evidence of the Caucasian race originating in Ukraine. That’s right – you can thank your white ass for Ukraine because it is the fertile land of your ancestors, in more ways than one.

    • BackRowHeckler November 17, 2019 at 12:19 am #

      Well typillian there is quite a large population of Ukranian immigrants here in Connecticut, and they are still arriving. A son in laws family owns a pretty good sized plant that manufactures aircraft parts for the DoD and he recruits some of his best machinists from the Ukraine. Odd thing, there are Ukrainians who are Catholics and Ukrainians who worship at the Orthodox church and the two groups don’t mix all that much.

      Ukrainians seem to assimilate pretty quickly; the mom and dad can barely speak English but in no time at all they have a nice house in the suburbs and the kids look like they could have stepped off the Mayflower. Its immigration at its best.


      • Janos Skorenzy November 17, 2019 at 2:14 am #

        Huntington’s line splits the country in two. East and West. It should never have been made into one country or shouldn’t have remained one once the culture split. It just doesn’t make sense.

        • JohnAZ November 17, 2019 at 11:15 am #

          Read about Huntington, every one on the blog should. Janos, good input.

          Two things, with the Cold War over, there is not a single global demarcation line for everyone to line up behind.

          Second, with no global demarcation, all the regional, religious, ethnic divisions come to the fore and give Mankind all the excuses he needs to Duke it out with each other. All the other contrary views on Huntington do not deviate from this basic fact, division is inherent to the human psyche. This blog is proof positive of that. I never see any solutions to problems here, ever! Just bitch, bitch, bitch about all the divisions.

          Janos, East and West? maybe Central and the coasts, or rural vs. the cities. I do not believe Huntington thinks that the lines can be bridged. This is the main reason the Phony drive to “unify” the US, whether under Trumpian rule or Democratic rule will not succeed.

          Interesting point of the write up I read was he stated that no country in the history of the world has succeeded with integrating diversity between the different world groups. He states that if Turkey can keep itself intact between Islam and Europe influences, it will be the first.

          Good lead, Janos, thanks.

          • JohnAZ November 17, 2019 at 11:23 am #

            This country will never unify under minority rule. Just look at the areas where all the immigrants have come from to see how well they can rule a country by adherence to the law, ie Constitution.

            Just let me know where the line is drawn for European Caucasians.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 17, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

            Yes, Culture is upstream from Politics (and economics), and Cult (religion) is upstream from Culture.

            That being said, no Whites suffering from virulent mind poison will be let in if I have anything to say about it. No more than we would let in someone suffering from a terrible communicable disease. That’s what Communism and Libertarianism are after all – Diseases of the Mind and Soul. Liberalism as well of course, the “culture” in which they are grown.


          • Majella November 17, 2019 at 1:57 pm #


            Apparently you don’t qualify for Janos, White Utopia without a significant Purgatorial Experience (below).

          • SoftStarLight November 17, 2019 at 2:28 pm #

            All must pass through fire to be refined for the glory of the New Kingdom. That includes you sister. And after your renewal we will laugh together about how silly you used to be.

          • GreenAlba November 17, 2019 at 8:15 pm #

            “And after your renewal we will laugh together about how silly you used to be.”

            Sounds like Stepford Wives.

          • Majella November 18, 2019 at 4:15 am #

            SSL – I think you’re really starting to lose perspective. It’s like you’ve fallen into a feverish cultish nightmare! Are you okay? Are your kids okay? Should someone call for help???

          • Majella November 18, 2019 at 4:41 am #

            Also, did you ever find that TV Show I recommended? The Righteous Gemstones? It’ll do two distinct things for you:

            1) show you how fucked up USA-corporate, tax-free-for-profit religion really works, and

            2) it would give you some great tips on how to cash in on your own cult.

            You could secede from the incorporated States of United USA and establish “Janopia” and get to set all the rules… like if you have more than 1/32nd of non-Aryan blood (to be defined later by a committee of two), you’re ‘not gettin’ in, you ‘mud blood’.’

            Or if you LOOK White but disagree with President Janos (And First Woman White Breeder Unit , SoftStarLight) then you’re NOT excluded…no! You will be brought into the ‘republ-ingdom’ and (according to Janos’ fate for JohnAZ, who has never been a rabid dickhead like Janos) , get ‘the treatment’:

            ‘ Is he (JohnAZ) getting into the White Republic? No he is not until he publicly repents, wears a hair shirt, gets whipped, put in stocks, etc. Use your imagination’

            Who knows where Janos’ imagination could go? After all, ‘extermination’ doesn’t require any imagination…but let’s face it -it’s SO last century…

            Perhaps he will use this forum, in which his astounding intellect & educated wisdom is so highly regarded that he’ll share some of his more esoteric plans for Janopia. We can only hope.

        • JohnAZ November 17, 2019 at 11:29 am #

          Manifest Destiny, an ideal of the early 1800’s Deep State in DC, is responsible for the one country. The ginormous European immigration onslaught just ran over any contrary opposition group. Indians, Asians, Latinos or Blacks. Without this drive, I wonder what the US would look like today?

      • malthuss November 17, 2019 at 6:48 pm #

        Or a brain drain.
        All depends whose Oxe is getting gored.

        You just dont see the White World in catastrophe, do you?

    • BackRowHeckler November 17, 2019 at 12:24 am #

      Oh, and there is no sea level rise at the sub base in New London or anywhere else on the Sound. It the same now as it was when I was a kid. I fish there regularly.

      • JohnAZ November 17, 2019 at 11:18 am #

        Comment. The really bad legitimate guesses on sea level is that it will change in amounts of inches. The real threat is the intensity of offshore storms and their sea surges. One good sized hurricane and Lower Florida is toast.

        • BackRowHeckler November 17, 2019 at 3:18 pm #

          The thing is JAZ the worst Florida storms in the past century occurred in the years between 1925 and 1935. Florida was part of the Spanish Main and they kept records of hurricanes and tropical storms beginning about 1500, and several times in the 16th, 17th and 18th century storms hit that were powerful enough to sink their entire treasure fleet. There have always been hurricanes and tropical storms in that part of the world.

          I’ve been trying to find out more about the ‘Great Storm of 1630’ that hit New England hard in late summer of that year. I first learned of it reading accounts of King Philip’s War c1675, when contemporary accounts comment on storm damage in harbors and bays still visible after 45 years. That must have been one hell of a hurricane.


          • malthuss November 17, 2019 at 6:49 pm #

            you know too much.

      • trypillian November 17, 2019 at 8:11 pm #

        Actually I did use the future tense for sea-level rise. It will happen eventually, whether you like it or not. The Greenland ice yields 25 ft rise above todays levels and Antarctica contains 150 ft. Greenland is melting very quickly. It’s true storm intensity and tides play a role. The central problem is water rising. Other factors affecting the eastern seaboard include thermal expansion of the increasing warm gulf stream, heated by equatorial waters.

        I was joking about submarine bases becoming submerged, but it will happen, unfortunately. All US bases world wide built near sea-level will be affected. When that happens even the Coast Guard won’t be able to guard the coast. There are about 15 nuclear reactors on the eastern seaboard averaging only about 12 ft above sea-level, a clear and present danger. You better hope and pray they aren’t breached or you’ll have 15 Fukashimas in your own backyard.

  52. K-Dog November 17, 2019 at 12:21 am #

    It’s an open secret. The deep state is working hand in hand with Silicon Valley social media giants like Twitter, Facebook and Google to control the flow of information. That includes suppressing, censoring and sometimes outright purging dissenting voices – all under the guise of fighting fake news and Russian propaganda.

    href=”https://www.mintpressnews.com/social-media-censorship-twitter-permanently-bans-dissent/262807/”>More Here

    • K-Dog November 17, 2019 at 12:22 am #

      No Here !

    • JustSaying November 17, 2019 at 11:57 am #

      How about the Max Blumenthal arrest and of course Julian Assange! Seymour Hersh stated three years ago that Russiagate was a Brennan operation but you don’t hear anything from him because he is banned in the US.

      The CIA is in complete control!

  53. Nightowl November 17, 2019 at 3:57 am #

    Post the crimes and provide concrete evidence.

    • Majella November 17, 2019 at 8:10 am #

      …rinse & repeat.

      • Nightowl November 17, 2019 at 9:08 am #

        Rekt again.

        So easy.

    • Majella November 17, 2019 at 8:15 am #

      That particular exhortation to satisfy your razor-sharp mind and ravenous appetite for solid evidence seems apropos of no particular claim, or is it just your standard post, accidentally re-cut&pasted?

      • SoftStarLight November 17, 2019 at 11:35 am #

        Yes, lord forbid we demand concrete evidence in the conviction of a man. Oh but wait! This isn’t even a trial. Wow, my bad. And here I was thinking you were this major supporter of Western Democracy and Jurisprudence. But it seems like you are ready to convict and then ask questions later. That’s what the Chinese Han Communist torturers and organ harvesters do to the Turkic Muslim Uighurs. They throw em in concentration camps. Then they ask questions.

        • GreenAlba November 17, 2019 at 1:46 pm #

          I must say it’s heartening to hear you profess some human concern for the Uighur Muslims, SSL.

          I doubt the powers that be even ask many questions, except to check the re-indoctrination has worked and they’re answering in the right language.

          • SoftStarLight November 17, 2019 at 2:19 pm #

            Yes dear Alba, it is possible for your political foes to be Human ;-). And that’s not to disagree with you that Humans can be quite the Simians sometimes. But let us not get carried away and forget that we are only Human too.

          • GreenAlba November 17, 2019 at 7:25 pm #

            I’m quite aware that my political foes (whoever they are) are also human. I was just surprised to hear you say anything sympathetic to Muslims. It’s not your normal turn of mind.

          • GreenAlba November 17, 2019 at 7:26 pm #

            *about* Muslims…

        • Majella November 17, 2019 at 1:51 pm #


          You clearly have no clue as what’s going on.

          Yes, the current process isn’t a trial – it’s an Enquiry…like what the cops do before charging someone: they gather evidence, which is then presented to a Grand Jury (no right to defence there).

          If there’s sufficient and compelling evidence, the indictment is laid, and it goes to a Court for a trial. In this case, the court is the Senate and the Judge is the Chief Justice of SCOTUS.

          The Senate is the Jury, and a 2/3rds majority is needed to Convict. There’s little danger of that if the vote is on party lines, so please – quit bleating. Quit acting as though FFvCS is the victim here. It’s not as if you even support him anymore, is it?

          • SoftStarLight November 17, 2019 at 2:26 pm #

            No! It’s a rigged witchhunt! If the evidence is there put up and shut up. But that’s just it. There is no evidence other than a compilation of hearsay and second and third hand accounts. Why won’t you just admit this is your people’s way of trying to usurp the system because you don’t really respect the outcomes of elections. And don’t forget that you aren’t even American.

          • Majella November 17, 2019 at 9:23 pm #


            For pity’s sake. You DEMAND evidence while simultaneously DEMANDING that the inquiry be shut down. Which is it?

            This week, there will 2 (possibly 3) witnesses with FIRST-HAND KNOWLEDGE of events. What will Jimmy J & Devin N say to discredit them? Possibly won’t have to – FFvCS will do it for them via Twitter.

            I’m especially looking forward to the Tweet that claims he ‘hardly knows’ Sondland. Here comes the bus!

            The House Committee is running the inquiry according to the rules laid down in 2015 when Boehner was Speaker. Don’t like the rules? Hard cheese.

            And again with the same tired trope of how the evil Dems want to ‘usurp the system because you (sic – me????) don’t really respect the outcome of elections’.

            Oh? Who spent years and years promoting the ridiculous ‘Birther’ conspiracy theory, trying to overturn the 2008 election result?

            “These claims were promoted by fringe theorists (pejoratively referred to as “birthers”), most prominent among whom was Donald Trump, who would later succeed Obama as president. Some theorists sought court rulings to declare Obama ineligible to take office, or to grant access to various documents which they claimed would support such ineligibility; none of these efforts was successful. Some political opponents, especially in the Republican Party, have expressed skepticism about Obama’s citizenship or been unwilling to acknowledge it;[3] some have proposed legislation which would require presidential candidates to provide proof of eligibility.[3]”

            Of course, you were never in with THAT crowd, were you? Or the ‘Obama is a Muslim” crowd?

            Let the process run to its conclusion. If it’s all BS, that’ll be the outcome and you’ll be proven right (won’t THAT be a novel sensation?) Quit bleating – there’s nothing you or your incensed outrage can do to stop the process. Find something useful to spend your energy on – maybe design some potential flags for the glorious and imminent ‘white republic’.

            Here’s something that might get you started:


          • Nightowl November 18, 2019 at 6:11 am #

            Maj, just learned it isn’t an impeachment.

            Scroll up to her earlier rantings and have a chuckle.

  54. Janos Skorenzy November 17, 2019 at 12:03 pm #

    SSL and Sunnburst: Sometimes the New Age Movement rediscovers Ancient Knowledge, in this case, a sacred frequency. I don’t know much about it – but this seems to work.


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    • SoftStarLight November 17, 2019 at 2:15 pm #

      Some people believe that ultimately our conciousness functions like an antenna picking up the Divine frequencies of the cosmos. And by accessing those frequencies theoretically one thereby contacts the Divine Nature. And if not this way, it still is very relaxing and meditative.

      • malthuss November 17, 2019 at 6:51 pm #

        just external.
        the universe.

        As Nisargadatta said ‘so external.’

      • sunburstsoldier November 17, 2019 at 9:30 pm #

        This happens to me when I vape marijuana. I believe all creative insights are simply channeling higher frequencies…

        • sunburstsoldier November 17, 2019 at 9:32 pm #

          But first one must do one’s homework. Nothing of value in life comes easy…

    • elysianfield November 17, 2019 at 6:01 pm #

      For God’s sake, avoid comments such as this, and leave me with a shred of respect for you and your (other) admirable qualities.

    • sunburstsoldier November 17, 2019 at 6:35 pm #

      I’ll check it out Janos, but I have to admit I am skeptical. Despite what you may think I’m not much interested in the New Age thing ( other than Urantia Book, Course in Miracles, and Ekhart Tolle)…

      • sunburstsoldier November 17, 2019 at 9:34 pm #

        Also Carlos Castaneda and Findhorn Garden…

  55. Janos Skorenzy November 17, 2019 at 12:16 pm #


    Management is not to blame. Who could have predicted this? John Az shouts in exaltation, Let them eat cake (go the bathroom out on the streets). It serves them right for losing the Game of Musical Chairs. There can only be ONE!

    Is he getting into the White Republic? No he is not until he publicly repents, wears a hair shirt, gets whipped, put in stocks, etc. Use your imagination. Ditto for Elrond and the Commonwealth Crowd of Commies.

    • Majella November 17, 2019 at 1:43 pm #

      A ‘white republic’ under President Janos? What’s the attraction?

      • SoftStarLight November 17, 2019 at 2:35 pm #

        You will do penance too lest you remain in heresy and wickedness.

        • Majella November 17, 2019 at 4:17 pm #

          Oh, sorry… I’ll rephrase that:

          “A ‘white republic’ under President Janos & First Female White Breeding Unit SoftStarLight? What’s the attraction?”

        • Majella November 17, 2019 at 6:34 pm #

          SSL: “You will do penance too lest you remain in heresy and wickedness.”

          As well as First Female White Breeding Unit, you can be the new Utopia’s Witchsmeller Pursuivant! (Nothing like a little double-dipping on government money when you’re running the state, eh?)


  56. Janos Skorenzy November 17, 2019 at 12:25 pm #

    “You have nothing that you have not received.” St Paul

    How does that fit in with no holds barred Capitalism? It don’t – not in the slightest. Rather, “To whom much is given, much is asked”. Don’t know who said it but that fits. In fact, it follows….

    • K-Dog November 17, 2019 at 12:41 pm #

      I think service stations that sell gas should have to give away air for free. How about you?

      • Majella November 17, 2019 at 6:40 pm #

        Sure, ‘air is free’ as the saying goes, but COMPRESSED air, especially in the US, is ‘value-added’ and therefore an opportunity to profit. Yay.

      • sunburstsoldier November 17, 2019 at 9:40 pm #

        “have” to give it away K-Dog? More government intrusion in the market?

        • sunburstsoldier November 17, 2019 at 9:40 pm #

          Surely you jest…

    • K-Dog November 17, 2019 at 12:42 pm #

      A social tax for being special flowers.

    • Majella November 17, 2019 at 4:18 pm #

      Much to your probable horror, that is attributed to LBJ.

  57. Walter B November 17, 2019 at 5:14 pm #

    I know that this is an old article but it does tend to lead credence to a lot of what Janos posts here.


    The tail wags the dog, no?

    • Majella November 17, 2019 at 5:41 pm #


      Indeed. The statement *I* noticed as the most chilling is:

      “…(Trump) seems to be preparing for a fascist takeover, perhaps backed by the Russian president. The signs are there, even if it sounds too extreme to be realistic. Fascism in America? A coup? In America? No way. Right? Well, the conviction that America is somehow going to be okay is getting shakier. Faith that the system can rectify itself is wavering. It’s getting increasingly difficult to keep bizarre conspiracy theories out of mind, some of which involve a secret Russian plan to control America. These are terrifying times, and it is possible that the worst is still to come.”

      Sounds like Janos’ wet dream.

      • Walter B November 17, 2019 at 6:11 pm #

        You mention “faith” Majella, that would be the same entity that is currently propping up the US currency isn’t it? That faith has certainly been eroded as of late and as it drops even further, as it surely will, in God we may still trust, but the USD will not be able to say the same thing, will it? Good thing that there are no foreign powers working on helping this inevitability happen, eh?

        • Majella November 17, 2019 at 9:37 pm #

          Hi Walter

          The ‘faith’ mention wasn’t me but the quote from the Jerusalem Post article.

          However, you’re right. The stability (for whatever it’s worth) of the global economy relies on the confidence placed in the US greenback as the default reserve currency of global trade. That hegemony is protected ruthlessly.

          For example, one of Saddam’s ‘crimes’ was deciding to trade oil in currencies other than the Benjamin. You can see how THAT turned out.

          Well, that only MAYBE one of the reasons the Cheney Administration decided to trash – sorry! ‘liberate’ – Iraq (and the oil), but it sort of stacks up with common sense, huh.


    • Majella November 17, 2019 at 5:45 pm #

      “I know that this is an old article but…”

      It was written in May 2017 – a seeming AEON ago in the days of 5 Trump-generated news cycles a day.

      However, its age is a commendation – it was ominously & luminously prescient.

  58. BackRowHeckler November 17, 2019 at 5:14 pm #

    Who’s ready for


    It’s a weeklong commitment sponsored by XC to protest changing weather patterns … or something.

    As Ghandi once observed, hunger strikes wouldn’t work against the Red Army or an occupation Japanese government, but against the British East India Company it was effective. Same dynamic at work here: Mother Earth doesn’t care if you starve to death or not. It’s all the same to Mother Earth. “Go ahead, don’t eat, see if I care” says Mother Earth.


    • malthuss November 17, 2019 at 6:52 pm #




      • Majella November 18, 2019 at 2:50 am #

        Oops. Right. The Red Army. I goofed that one.

    • Majella November 18, 2019 at 2:16 am #

      Sorry, I’ve gotta call you out on that one -on at least two points:
      1) Ghandi’s campaign succeed in 1947, two years before Mao’s army toppled the Chinese Govt
      2) The British Crown (I.e. government) bought out the East India Company in 1852.

      If the EIC has still been running the shop in the 1940s, Ghandi would have lasted about 5 days before being ‘Arkancided’ (hat tip benr) and India would probably not have supplied armed forces to fight Hitler. In fact, it may well have gone in on the side of Fascism (but that’s entirely hypothetical..)

      • Majella November 18, 2019 at 2:51 am #

        Oops. Right. The Red Army. I goofed that one.

  59. BackRowHeckler November 17, 2019 at 5:27 pm #

    It might be a good day to grill up any remaining steaks we have in the freezer left over from summer. Have any of you noticed this: when grilling, barbecuing or even cooking outdoors on a camp stove, ambient temp does matter? Things just don’t cook as good on cold days. We were at a trap shooting event today and IT WAS COLD! The burgers and hot dogs the club was grilling over a charcoal fire just didn’t fully cooked no matter how long they were on the fire.

    At any rate


    To officially participate you must be signed up on their site. Whatever you do, don’t just stop eating, which can be dangerous to your health.


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    • malthuss November 17, 2019 at 6:53 pm #

      On utube you scan see and hear people who are fasting.
      no food or drink except wawa.

      10 days
      20 days
      30 days

      maybe more.

    • elysianfield November 17, 2019 at 9:04 pm #

      Trap shooting? Not exactly a spectator sport. Do you handicap with a 20, or perhaps a 28 ga? At one time I had a matched set of 1100’s…28 and .410…still have a 20ga or two somewhere.

      • BackRowHeckler November 17, 2019 at 10:10 pm #


        I’ve been using a Winchester Model 12, 20 guage that we think was my great uncle’s, (could’ve been my grandfathers) got it after he died and we cleaned out his house. It has to be from the 1920s at least. It is a skeet gun but we have been using it for trap.

        Funny you mention 28 guage, the first one I ever saw was earlier today, a guy had one. I believe it was a Charles Daly, maybe an import.


      • BackRowHeckler November 17, 2019 at 10:21 pm #

        There are quite a few old Winchesters and Colts found around here E. Over the years thousands of people from the area worked in those plants. I know a guy, has a business of conducting estate sales, would go into houses of people who passed away and sell everything on premises. He told me in the old houses he’d always find a family bible, but also a Winchester rifle or a Colt revolver.


    • sunburstsoldier November 17, 2019 at 9:26 pm #

      To think such hunger strikes will accomplish anything is just delusional…

      • sunburstsoldier November 18, 2019 at 6:19 am #

        If people really want to do something about ‘climate change’ they will focus on shrinking their own carbon footprint. Everything else is blatant hypocrisy…

  60. BackRowHeckler November 17, 2019 at 8:33 pm #

    How much longer is this Dog and Pony Impeachment Show going to continue? When will it wrap up? (Or is it open ended, designed to continue on forever?)

    The Dems are in danger of committing the one unpardonable sin in American politics, and that is boring the sh#t out of everybody. For Gods sake call a vote! Is Trump in, or is he out? That’s all we want to know.


    • Majella November 17, 2019 at 9:03 pm #

      Let’s hear from Sondland & the new guy, David Holmes, first.

    • Majella November 17, 2019 at 9:05 pm #

      BRH – “For Gods sake call a vote! Is Trump in, or is he out? That’s all we want to know.”

      Are you being deliberately obtuse, Marlin? I’m sure you are fully aware of the process here and the next steps.

      • sunburstsoldier November 17, 2019 at 9:36 pm #

        Where do you see this whole thing going Majella?

        • Majella November 17, 2019 at 10:00 pm #

          I have no idea, but I’d speculate that:

          > the evidence will be sufficient for the House Intelligence Committee to vote for Articles;

          > the referral to the House Oversight (?) committee will proceed to a full House vote. At best, that will be partisan to a representative and he’ll be impeached.

          > McConnell will dither, duck, dive and otherwise do his usual obfuscatory best to be a totally useless representative of the people of Kentucky;

          > There’ll be a trial started, but the first act of the Defence will be to call for dismissal, which the Chief Justice will either grant or put to a vote.

          All over.

          The upside, however, is that the criminal evidence against FFvCS will be on the record and unless he
          a) gets re-elected in 2020 and
          b) manages to get himself appointed President for Life (which I’m sure is his most ardent wish),
          he’ll face a prosecution someday – unless his galloping dementia disqualifies him from having to face his fate – a case of mental bone spurs, if you will.

          • sunburstsoldier November 17, 2019 at 10:16 pm #

            I was thinking if Senate Republicans fail to impeach, the Democrats can then say the Republican Party as a whole is in cahoots with Trump. The only question is how large a segment of the American Public will buy into this…

          • EvelynV November 17, 2019 at 10:58 pm #

            Sunburst, if they don’t realize it already they are comatose, dead, or at Benr’s level of comprehension.

          • Majella November 18, 2019 at 1:37 am #

            Sunburst – the Dems can say anything they like, it will have no impact on the hard-core base of deranged Trumpsters.

            Trump is shitting himself, and may well tweet his way into the deepest trouble he could find. The problem is, his sociopathic narcissism protects him from ACTUAL reality. ‘Reality’ to him is what HE thinks. What a dumbo.

          • Majella November 18, 2019 at 1:50 am #

            That evidence will include the erudite conclusions of Mueller’s Report, despite the constant ‘nothing-burger’ dismissal of the GOP/Trumpster chorus.

          • Nightowl November 18, 2019 at 6:16 am #

            What evidence? What crimes?

            Go on, enlighten us.

          • BackRowHeckler November 18, 2019 at 8:43 am #

            Apparently, whoever’s supports the President is a deranged RWNJ; those opposed to the President and agitating for his removal are calm, sane, and posses the Wisdom of Solomon.


      • BackRowHeckler November 17, 2019 at 9:48 pm #

        Majella, we already know every Dem Congressman and woman except 2 or 3 will vote to impeach, and every single Republican will vote against. It’s not a mystery, it’s a forgone conclusion. I understand about the process but why drag it out? Just get on with it the holidays are coming for krissake and soon after that the primaries.


        • Majella November 17, 2019 at 10:04 pm #

          “Not only must Justice be done; it must also be seen to be done.”

          The case in which this was first expressed (R v Sussex Justices, ex parte McCarthy ([1924] 1 KB 256, [1923] All ER Rep 233) is famous for its precedence in establishing the principle that the mere appearance of bias is sufficient to overturn a judicial decision.

        • EvelynV November 17, 2019 at 11:04 pm #


          You usually seem smart enough to understand what a stupid question you are asking.

          We drag it out to make it clear to the public that Trump really is guilty so that when the republicans in the Senate put party before principle it will be just that much more obvious what hypocrites they are.

          • Majella November 18, 2019 at 1:31 am #

            Precisely. As well, the evidence for his eventual comeuppance will have been already established.

            Even the hyper-partisan Trump cultist , and evening those who claim they DON’T ‘like’ him but still support him, would surely agree that not one is above the law’.

            Yes, this includes all their ogres – HRC, BRH, Clapper, Brennan & the vast panoply of ‘deep state’ bad actors. But they’re entitled to the same legal due process as you & me. If they’re guilty of te crimes they’re smeared with, them, as Nightowl would say, ‘ list their crimes. Provide the evidence.

            Or otherwise, these characters could just be put up as straw men props for the baying minority of Trump’s base to chant ‘Lock him/her/them up!!!’ , the behavior Michael Flynn indulged in through Trump’s Hillbilly Nuremberg rallies prior to the election. His sentencing outcome is going to be interesting. Either he’ll be exonerated (as JHK Jones for) or he won’t, in which case he’ll be held forth as ‘yet another victim!’ Of the ‘evil Dems’. There’s no win in this…

          • Majella November 18, 2019 at 1:33 am #

            (Excuse the typos…blinking’ iPhone keyboard!)

          • Majella November 18, 2019 at 1:58 am #

            …except to the Trumpster Chorus (all singing from the same ‘victim!’ song sheet.

            Bill Maher (he so loathed by the RWNJs hereabouts, summed it up in his monologue last Friday:


            I wonder how many of our Trump Booster Community Members will click that link and watch it all the way through? Very few if any. The truth is anathema to them.

            ‘How’s a white billionaire to get a break round here???’ Being, IMO, the most telling line. But then, Bill Maher is a leftist, probably paedophile (never married=very suspicious) millionaire, so how can anything HE say be of any worth or truth?

            There’s just no helping some people, eh, benr?

        • Majella November 18, 2019 at 2:46 am #

          BRHb- by that thinking, why bother to have elections? Surely the polls tell the story? Gee..that wouldn’t have worked well for you in 2016, huh?

        • Nightowl November 18, 2019 at 6:26 am #

          Optics for the 2020 election. This is the Hail Mary.

  61. Majella November 18, 2019 at 2:02 am #


    May I ask what ‘blighted-by-Dems-and-dirty-stinking-immigrants’ city/district do you suffer your useless anti-Trump life in?

    • Majella November 18, 2019 at 2:06 am #

      I’m in Walnut Creek, California (east of Oakland).

      • elysianfield November 18, 2019 at 11:08 am #

        “I’m in Walnut Creek, California (east of Oakland).”

        For the uninformed…there is a range of hills between the two…not in walking distance of each other…hence one of the good reasons to be there.

  62. Majella November 18, 2019 at 3:10 am #

    in FFvCS’s defense, JHK stated:

    ‘ The president dispatched Mr. Giuliani to Ukraine because he didn’t trust the State lifers to get to the bottom of the mischief emanating from Kiev during the 2016 election,’

    Add to that the selection of Sondland, Perry and Volker (an unknown quantity) to sort his agenda out. He really does have ‘only the BEST people’, as you can see for yourself.

    Why/how could a relatively sane person have confidence in the Clown Ghouliani? Only a brother Clown, it seems to me – and 54% of the US population, a fraction that has only one trajectory – up.


  63. tucsonspur November 18, 2019 at 5:10 am #

    Thank you for all the info Jim.

    Call it what you will. The Deepartment of State or the State Deepartment. Or the Deep Deepartment of State. Or the State Deep Deep Deepartment. Or whatever. WTF.

    Call it the Deepartment of Snakes, wearing bowties and suits and slithering around in the pit of their own agendas. Schiff snake dancing towards impeachment. He’s a sneak thief of a snake, trying to steal an election away from the American people.

    After his checkup,it’s a near miracle that Trump still seems to be healthy. Not many survive the fangs or the venom. Maybe he will continue to do so, maybe he won’t. He must not resign like Nixon, and Republicans must at last go strongly on the offensive after the holidays.

    Hail the Golden Gladiator of Gotham!!

    • Walter B November 18, 2019 at 8:37 am #

      Maybe DJT is not really under any stress, perhaps he is just acting out his part. He has been on TV professionally before you know.

    • SoftStarLight November 18, 2019 at 9:33 am #

      Not only must he go on the offensive. It is time for him to be Samson and bring the entire palace house of cards down.

  64. sunburstsoldier November 18, 2019 at 5:50 am #

    For me partisanship arises whenever we fail to detach ourselves from our own perspective long enough to see things through the eyes of our adversary. This is what Jesus meant by first pulling the log out of our own eye before removing the splinter from that of our neighbor’s…

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    • Walter B November 18, 2019 at 8:08 am #

      For me this entire issue is pure distraction and bullshit and may even be totally scripted as well, but who cares anyway? Yes it is billable and all of the actors are getting paid big bucks to act it all out regardless, but there is a real downside to it all IMHO. As the rest of the world watches it all crap out and comes to the logical conclusion that America has rotted from the head so totally, some powers or combined groups of power is going to step up to the plate and put us out of our misery. If not that, then new owners will simply make the fire sale purchase and move in to straighten it all out as they see fit. I’m betting on the latter seeing that our entire leadership has already proven that selling us out is what they do. Meet the new boss, worse than the old boss. Looks like we have been fooled again.

    • SoftStarLight November 18, 2019 at 9:26 am #

      Jesus specifically came to share Truth which He himself said is more of a sword than an armistice.

      Matthew 10:34-36 – Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.

    • SoftStarLight November 18, 2019 at 9:28 am #

      Jesus was a partisan was he not? After all, he called out his earthly adversaries for what they were, the Synagogue of Satan. I understood the reference to the log in the eye to be about one judging another when the judger is not better than the one being judged.

  65. BackRowHeckler November 18, 2019 at 8:54 am #

    You know I don’t think the president is feeling much stress right now, for the simple reason most of his life was not in politics. If lefty Dems and the MSM somehow succeed to remove him from office he’ll merely return to his compound in Florida, a private citizen, a martyr, victim, and hero to nearly half the citizens of the United States. Personally, I think he is in a pretty solid position.


    • BackRowHeckler November 18, 2019 at 9:25 am #

      Trouble is, for the country —

      Tens of millions of Trump supporters will be left feeling aggrieved, screwed, with an axe to grind and looking to get even. Dems should think about that before they continue any further.


      • SoftStarLight November 18, 2019 at 9:31 am #

        And get even we will and we will go beyond getting even. Getting even isn’t good enough anymore, if it ever was good at all. They want to totally destroy us and annihilate us. Listen to their language. They want us to be completely subjugated. So we cannot afford to lose. No, this has become a fight for our very existence and survival.

        • Majella November 18, 2019 at 3:45 pm #

          Thought you’d dumped Trump, SSL.

          Your crazy paranoia is going to get the better of you.


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