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Anyone who doubts that the Attorney General is dead serious about cleaning up the goddamned mess of sedition spawned by the Democratic Party, its agents in the permanent Washington bureaucracy, and its public relations arm in the news media, might invest a little time and attention in William Barr’s speech to the Federalist Society Friday evening. (Text of speech here and video here.)

Mr. Barr declared unambiguously and in plain English that “in waging a scorched earth, no-holds-barred war of ‘Resistance’ against this Administration, it is the Left that is engaged in the systematic shredding of norms and the undermining of the rule of law.” Is any part of that unclear? The confounded might take in this more detailed lesson in recent history from the speech:

Immediately after President Trump won election, opponents inaugurated what they called ‘the Resistance,’ and they rallied around an explicit strategy of using every tool and maneuver available to sabotage the functioning of his administration.  Now, ‘resistance’ is the language used to describe insurgency against rule imposed by an occupying military power. It obviously connotes that the government is not legitimate. This is a very dangerous — indeed incendiary — notion to import into the politics of a democratic republic.  What it means is that, instead of viewing themselves as the “loyal opposition,” as opposing parties have done in the past, they essentially see themselves as engaged in a war to cripple, by any means necessary, a duly elected government.”

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824 Responses to “Entertaining Questions”

  1. CancelMyCard November 18, 2019 at 10:07 am #

    “You may recall that the CIA is prohibited from spying on Americans in their own country, and doing that in the White House is arguably the essence and height of lawless sedition.”

    Yeah, like that have ever stopped them. They’ve been pulling this shit for many years now.

    • CancelMyCard November 18, 2019 at 10:08 am #

      has ever stopped them.

    • fugeguy November 18, 2019 at 10:14 am #

      I always found that funny.

      Can anyone even count the number of times they have gotten caught violating this law.

      • K-Dog November 18, 2019 at 12:32 pm #

        It is an intelligence test. If you believe the FBI does not watch you when they want, and anytime they want; that they actually follow the law, then you are stupid. The test is binary.

        But the real pisser is if if you have experienced the joys of, let see I need a phrase to describe it? How about I pick the phrase ‘targeted individual‘ to illuminate my meaning.

        I’ll just make it up on the fly, this phrase, and put these two words together as if I were the first to ever do it. Anybody ever hear about the pairing before.

        Or perhaps you too have some stories nobody would believe if they were told. If you have such stories, I’ll believe you.

        The rule of law.

        • K-Dog November 18, 2019 at 12:36 pm #

          And when it happens to you it can be scary. For real!

      • abbybwood November 18, 2019 at 1:03 pm #

        Interesting how Clapper, when CIA director Clapper told Congress while under oath “under penalty of perjury” said, “The CIA has not been spying on the American people, not at least wittingly…”.

        Brennan lied under oath to Feinstein’s committee while under oath, Hillary Clinton lied repeatedly.

        All these deep staters appear to be untouchable.

        I wish Mr. Barr Godspeed.

        • K-Dog November 18, 2019 at 1:42 pm #

          It can be said with a straight face. The modern way is to tap into third party surveillance and use it so technically it is not a lie.

          A company like Netflix fires up an Amazon virtual server and ‘they’ tap in and control your horizontal and vertical to terrorize you if you warrant the special treatment. They listen to everything that is going on. You are being terrorize through layers of abstraction and a chain of application toolkits. Microphones in phones must meet minimum standards don’t you know.

          A minute later and all evidence of them rewinding your flick to repeatedly show a murder a few times over in a row so you know they are there with you and it is mission accomplished.

          A few scrambled and returned emails and you know you have no moves to make at all unless you want to be stubborn and write about it later.

          Watching ‘Trudell’ the 2005 documentary at the time made their day since the FBI murders John’s family in it.

          rudell married Tina Manning, an activist of the Duckwater Shoshone Tribe. They had three children together: Ricarda Star, Sunshine Karma, and Eli Changing Sun. In February 1979, Tina (who was pregnant), the children and her mother Leah Hicks-Manning were all killed in a fire at her parents’ house on the Duck Valley Reservation. Her father Arthur survived. Trudell was out of town.

          The house was sealed and they were burned alive. That was the part of the Netflix-video that my ‘bouncing ball’ kept going back too.

          Point is having things done through a third party makes them impossible to stop or catch. And who you gonna call?


  2. DrTomSchmidt November 18, 2019 at 10:08 am #

    It’s clear that all that honey in the honeypot in DC attracts a lot of flies. You cannot clean up the mess without removing the honey that attracts the flies.

    We spend over $1trillion on defense and intelligence (including interest in debt acquired to pay for past defense). Arrest everyone targeted by Barr, and in 10 years there will be legions (pun intended) to replace them.

    Unless and until the Congress cuts funding, this will continue. The interesting thing now is that the FBI and CIA have shown that they’ve flipped from Republican redoubts to Democratic Sinecures. Perhaps a Trump-inspired GOP-led house will defund them? Nothing else will end this.

    • 4014HAMPHEDGE November 18, 2019 at 11:45 am #

      Earlier years of Strategic Air Command training missions over the lower 48 included detailed flight plans and actual missions of B-47/52 aircraft and escort fighters targeting US metropolitan areas. This was accomplished to “acquaint” aircrews with the conscious reality they were on call day & night to embark over the pole to deliver nuclear ordnance to an enemy nation’s urban as well as, military target.

      This mindset goes beyond the theoretical when the mission might has evolved to program missiles in a land or sea-based launch pad to detonate in the Troposphere over a sovereign nation in order to create Electro-Magnetic Pulse effect to all computer/solid state controls on a continental scale A false flag event is now simply too easy to resist.

      The eventual EMP scenario; “High Altitude Magnetic Pulse”, is embodied in strategic planning of the nuclear powers, having made decision to cripple, by means of disabling all electric oriented utilities, transport and communication, not kill inhabitants. China for example, would deploy massive airlift (Conveniently supplied by US trade policy) for purpose of securing strategic facilities, manufacturing complexes and food production regions.

      This above scenario is no more plausible than current political events. The “False Flag” EMP component is more than possible when a bloodless coup is uncovered, and perps scramble to stay out of prison. Oh, and does the current American situation invite foreign adversaries to consider the very same timing & opportunity?

      Mr. Kunstler avoids these kinds of military hypotheticals in his “LONG EMERGENCY” and other writings of related subject matter. However, please consider William Forstchen “ONE SECOND AFTER” as a companion read for JHK collapse primers. Add to the plot many (EU) Globalization proponents even now considering need to subdue United States’ blatant disregard for Climate Shift & failure to embrace Globalization, even as Ms. Pelosie makes pointed reference just last week. Some unthinkables are downright likely!

      So, again it seems needful to refresh recollections on need to rethink Famine Hedge urban rail links into agriculture districts, retrograde as that may sound. Wealthy persons’ adoption/sponsorship of dormant rail corridor is crucial, while Bicycle people will resent reversal of “Rails To Trails” movement, until famine is a daily challenge. See Forstchen, ye wheelmen…

      • ellipsis November 18, 2019 at 12:13 pm #

        Excellent points! Even in chaos expect some hidden order, although it will almost certainly not be of the welcomed variety. We’re much closer than we think.

        • Ron Anselmo November 18, 2019 at 4:40 pm #

          Those who put their head down on a pillow at 11:00pm, and wake up at 6:00am, will be surprised to learn that “hidden order” has always existed.

          In times of chaos, they will simply be the new means of distribution. All those networks are already in place.

          What do you want, and when do you want it? More importantly, what do you have to “pay” for it?

      • sprawlcapital November 18, 2019 at 12:25 pm #


        For decades our transportation policy has been based on the premise that highways are to build; railroads are to abandon.

        Sorry if I’m being dense, but by false-flag EMP attack, you mean the nuclear explosive would be detonated by the US military to disable our own infrastructure, correct?

        • ellipsis November 18, 2019 at 12:52 pm #

          That would be an excellent cover for a so-called “banking emergency” in the wake of a currency collapse. “Sorry folks, all them digital 1s and 0s you thought you had are gone now! Have to start all over again!”

          • ellipsis November 18, 2019 at 12:53 pm #

            Same principle as WTC-7 on 9-11, which was demolished to clear the ledgers of epic financial crimes.

          • draupnir November 18, 2019 at 2:24 pm #

            I’ve seen articles stating that 90% of us would be dead within the first year of such an event, and the living would envy the dead. It might take 10 years to get the power turned back on, if we even have the means to do so at this point.

          • ellipsis November 18, 2019 at 3:16 pm #

            Nope. It wouldn’t be pretty.

        • sprawlcapital November 18, 2019 at 3:03 pm #


          I have witnessed two controlled-explosive demolitions here in Des Moines, and, I have to say, the fall of Building 7 looked like those.

          • scoubidou123 November 18, 2019 at 4:25 pm #

            I apologize if I am not up to speed with the latest in conspiracy theories, but it looks like no one is really defending the collapse of the twin towers as being due to controlled demolition any more, that they did indeed collapse after jetliners slammed into them and burning weakened the support columns. Correct? So now the fallback conspiracy position is that the towers collapsing is legit, but building 7, however, THAT was the point of the whole operation. THAT building could not possibly collapse on its own. Even if flaming debris fell on it for an hour or two, and then two half-a-miilion-ton buildings collapsed next door to it, that it had burned for hours and was heard creaking, groaning, buckling and burning. No THAT is clearly impossible. Is this correct?

          • Ron Anselmo November 18, 2019 at 5:03 pm #

            WTC Tower 1 & WTC Tower 2 were also controlled demolitions.

            With a degree in engineering, and having watched the Towers in real time, shock set in, but my cognitive dissonance collapsed along with Tower 1, as I said to those in the room, on 9/11/01, those are controlled demolitions.

            Any engineer who watched the Towers fall and didn’t come to the exact same conclusion, either slept through class, or remains blinded by the denial created by cognitive dissonance.

            Preempting cognitive dissonance is accomplished by the expectation of false flags – helps you see them in real time, for what they are.

            Demanding the truth on 9/11/02, via a message scrawled on my back windshield got some pithy replies. Some awaken slower than others.

          • benr November 18, 2019 at 5:16 pm #

            There is a picture that clearly shows one of the corners at the base of building 7 sustained heavy damage.
            Beyond that not sure how anyone can talk about how it collapsed and not wonder.

          • benr November 18, 2019 at 5:19 pm #

            A yes Wikipedia explains it for the masses.

            On September 11, 2001, the structure was damaged by debris when the nearby North Tower of the World Trade Center collapsed. The debris also ignited fires, which continued to burn throughout the afternoon on lower floors of the building. The building’s internal fire suppression system lacked water pressure to fight the fires, and the building collapsed completely at 5:21:10 pm, according to FEMA,[5]:23 while the 2008 NIST study placed the final collapse time at 5:20:52 pm.[6]:19, 21, 50–51 The collapse began when a critical internal column buckled and triggered structural failure throughout, which was first visible from the exterior with the crumbling of a rooftop penthouse structure at 5:20:33 pm. The collapse made the old 7 World Trade Center the first tall building known to have collapsed primarily due to uncontrolled fires,[7] and at the time, the only steel skyscraper in the world to have collapsed due to fire.[8]

          • seawolf77 November 18, 2019 at 6:49 pm #

            The collapse of the Twin Towers on 9/11 is akin to you taking a soft drink tin can, filling it with petrol, lighting it and throwing it at your house and your house collapses an hour later.

          • scoubidou123 November 19, 2019 at 8:26 am #

            Sorry seawolf77, but there is no comparison between a can of petrol in a house and the WTC.’

            You have an impact severing support columns then thousands of galons of jet fuel mollifying and softening up the remaining columns that need to support 50 000 or 100 000 tons, leading to structural failure and collapse.

            Sorry, Ron and sprawlcapital, “sure looks to me like” does not cut it. There is no such thing as a proof by personal incredulity.

          • Nightowl November 19, 2019 at 9:03 am #

            There were 81 support columns in WTC 1&2.

            In order for the near free-fall speeds to have a chance of been achieved, all 81 columns would have had to have been pulverized instantaeously. Even then, the collapse time would be slower due to the incredible amount of material out of which the floors consisted.

            Yet WTC 1, 2, and 3 fell at or near free-fall speeds.

            Collapse at the speeds documented is impossible without removing all columns and floor materials simultaneously.

            And when we watch the videos we see exactly that. The buildings literally turn to dust while falling.

            Over at A&E, this argument has been meticulously laid out and documented.

          • sprawlcapital November 19, 2019 at 12:37 pm #


            We are not saying we have proof of anything, only that there is ample reason to doubt the official narrative of what happened,

          • scoubidou123 November 19, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

            There were initially support columns, damaged by raging fires, that suddenly had 50 or 100 thousand tons of building ramming into them, that turned into several hundreds of thousands of tons of building as the building pancaked, ramming into them.

            You have trouble believing that the shock could break them apart. The universe cares little about your cherished expectations, built on behaviour of house of cards or lego towers.

          • Urinthe Village November 19, 2019 at 2:02 pm #

            So on 9/11/01, three burning buildings collapsed in identical fashion, in a manner never seen previously in the history of buildings or the history of fire. Two buildings were struck by airliners in different places, yet failed identically to a third building not struck by an airliner, again, in a manner never before observed. That anyone believes this is a testimony to the complete failure of public education and the success of state propaganda. If people believe TV and the government over Newton and their own eyes, things are truly hopeless. Which they are.

          • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 2:33 pm #

            Those big giant jets are mostly 1/4 inch aluminum i.e. a tin can. They could never have penetrated steel girders. The only thing that would have penetrated are the engines. The rest of the plane should have slid down the side of the building. The Wiley Coyote cut out is as comical as Trump’s business acumen story. The man bankrupted a casino for Christ’s sake! You have to be brain dead to believe the official 9/11 story.And as someone noted, most Americans are. That’s how we got President Trump.

          • Nightowl November 19, 2019 at 3:37 pm #

            “There were initially support columns, damaged by raging fires, that suddenly had 50 or 100 thousand tons of building ramming into them, that turned into several hundreds of thousands of tons of building as the building pancaked, ramming into them.

            You have trouble believing that the shock could break them apart. The universe cares little about your cherished expectations, built on behaviour of house of cards or lego towers.”


            If that had happened, the buildings would never have fallen at free-fall (WTC 7) and near free-fall speeds (WTC 1 + 2).

            But they did. And the only way that happens is if all supporting structures (including the entirety of the 81 and 47 columns and the floor structures) are destroyed entirely and simultaneously.

          • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 4:40 pm #

            It’s a mechanical engineering principle that people peddling the so called pancake theory cannot grasp. Conservation of energy and momentum must be maintained and you simply cannot do it with the Twin Towers. There is so much building above the crash site. It weighs X and has potential energy due to its height. Once the structure underneath let go it begins to fall through good floors, and these floors have the capacity to absorb energy and should but don’t. Remember also the steel gets thicker and stronger the closer you get to ground level. This was clearly a controlled demolition disguised as a terrorist attack to bring the American people along for the resource wars to come. Iraq is now the swing producer for the world producing 5 mbd and growing.

          • Nightowl November 19, 2019 at 6:09 pm #

            Well, the floors do absorb some energy if not destroyed. A&E did a calculation that if all supporting columns were destroyed with explosives, but the floors remained, WTC 1 and 2 still would have required over 30 seconds to fall due to the mass of the floors slowing the collapse.

            In the videos we clearly see that the buildings were pulverized as they fell. This fits perfectly with the collapse times as there was nothing left to support them, allowing them to fall freely.

            There is no counter to this point, as the times are what they are, and something had to literally pulverize the floors and support columns, otherwise, the collapse slows.

          • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 6:56 pm #

            My theory is that the planes were substitutes inserted over military bases. The buildings were weakened internally to provide a checkerboard for the planes to fly into and create the Wiley Coyote cutout. The planes were remote-controlled to their targets. The controlled demolition had to cut all main structural members with thermite and this heat caused people to jump. The floors were filled with plastic explosives probably when the towers were built. Plans for the tower went into overdrive after the JFK assassination, and you can see it alluded to as the Twin Towers are held up by tridents, like the one in Dealey Plaza. It’s also in the Bible, Book of Revelations. “Babylon the Great is fallen, is fallen, for in one hour your time of judgment has come.” The towers fell within an hour of each other. The HRCC is ultimately responsible for everything that will happen due to peak oil. They will position and profit from it. But the people will finally figure it out and they will destroy the Church and thus will begin a new age, the Age of Aquarius and bring to a close the Age of Pisces.

          • scoubidou123 November 19, 2019 at 9:06 pm #

            Perfect, just perfect seawolf. Segue gibberish about JFK, the Whore of Babylon, now just need to write in tongues and you’ll be the perfect wild-eyed homeless prophet walking the Streets gong in hand repent the end is nigh

  3. shotho November 18, 2019 at 10:09 am #

    The dysfunction and degradation of our political system is on full display.

  4. DrTomSchmidt November 18, 2019 at 10:10 am #

    Btw, thanks for the link to Stockhausen. Never cared for atonal music, but this has an odd attraction for me.

  5. fugeguy November 18, 2019 at 10:11 am #

    Mr. Barr declared unambiguously and in plain English that “in waging a scorched earth, no-holds-barred war of ‘Resistance’ against this Administration, it is the Left that is engaged in the systematic shredding of norms and the undermining of the rule of law.”

    There are people in our nation that believe if they do not like someone they can do anything to “get” them.

    Called targeting.

    They might get their way and create a anything goes free for all society.

    Careful what you wish for….especially when your opponents tend to spend their time placing small groups of 7.62 mm diameter circles in pie places at 300m+… while your crew to struggling just to “cope” with how rough life is….


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    • fugeguy November 18, 2019 at 10:16 am #

      pie “plates”

      • benr November 18, 2019 at 11:09 am #

        That crew worries more about the confusion of which bathroom to use and finding a safe space when they hear something they don’t like.

        We see such on this board with the tds afflicted who can’t and won’t see just how damaging this nonsense.

        I learned long ago the guy in power today that you trust can quickly becoming the other sides guy on the next election cycle you have zero faith or trust in.

        The Democrats have revealed just how far you can go against that guy you don’t like.
        Make shit up, fake witnesses, fake whistleblowers, fake dossiers and doubling down on the hysterics can help whip up the useful idiots.

        At this point the FCC should revoke the license of any “news outlet” that does not tell the truth. Opinion pieces should have a flashing bar at the bottom as such.

        The media is there to keep government honest and when they line up and take sides as they have who is left to uncover the details?

        • abbybwood November 18, 2019 at 2:25 pm #

          Jimmy Dore, James Howard Kunstler, Matt Taibbi, Aaron Mate, Max Blumenthal, William Binney, Edward Snowden, John Whitehead.

          Alternative media is all we have now.

        • Nightowl November 18, 2019 at 4:28 pm #

          The media is toast at this point. The fish rots from the head.

          The only thing that can happen of any substance would be for new outlets like OANN to take the place of old. They may well also be corrupted at some point, but none of the current MSM outlets are trustworthy.

          There was a graphic I saw years ago showing how nearly all news we consume is owned by some 4 companies. And of course its all for profit. The West is as propagandized as the Soviet Union (or take your pick of corrupt regimes) ever was.

          Fuck you Edward Bernays, whereever you are.

          • cc rider November 18, 2019 at 6:54 pm #

            He’s in the fiery flames of hell…..the fiery flames of hell….hi ho the merry-o the fiery flames of hell

        • Nightowl November 19, 2019 at 9:18 am #

          “I learned long ago the guy in power today that you trust can quickly becoming the other sides guy on the next election cycle you have zero faith or trust in.”

          Wise words.

  6. RB November 18, 2019 at 10:14 am #

    Throw in this joke of an economy and stir in vigorously the political environment and you get a nation that is degrading into a banana republic. Democracy has proven a disaster especially when anyone can vote and judges dictate every outcome. We should all take a knee in response to this farce. All is lost. No recovery. No coming back from the abyss. We are in free fall.

    • fugeguy November 18, 2019 at 10:18 am #

      “We are in free fall.”


      As I say enjoy the ride cause the sudden stop is gonna hurt!

      • steponbugs November 19, 2019 at 5:30 am #

        As the esteemed David E. Davis of Car & Driver Magazine once said:

        “speed doesn’t kill; rapid deceleration does.”

        The current momentum, in all directions, will eventually reverse. Sadly, the deceleration will likely be violently rapid.

    • pokercat November 18, 2019 at 10:39 am #

      America is a Democratic REPUBLIC not a direct democracy as you have implied, hence Trump loses the popular (Democratic) vote only to “win” the Presidency.

      So Democracy as a Democratic REPUBLIC has proven a disaster, perhaps.

      Where we have direct voter determination as in the Prop issues like legalizing marijuana we seem to do better.

      • Billy Hill November 18, 2019 at 11:02 am #

        Until paper ballots – tallied by groups of three who mutually dislike one another – replace machines and iron-clad voter ID is instituted nationally there can be no valid vote, regardless of the distinction between popular and electors.

        Of course, having said this we risk accusations of elitist arithmetic, math being the bulwark of white privilege and all that.

        • benr November 18, 2019 at 11:16 am #

          Moter voter id acts giving illegals drivers licenses and voter rights further put legitimacy at risk.

          • seawolf77 November 18, 2019 at 7:15 pm #

            It’s pronounced MO-tour.

          • benr November 19, 2019 at 12:13 pm #

            moter voter sounds better!

            Mo-tour voht-ER just does not have the same ring.

      • benr November 18, 2019 at 11:14 am #

        That is crap because they judge shop when they lose!
        California prop 8 the voters said no to gay marriage!
        Activist judge struck it down.
        Whether you believe in or against a judge saw it as unfair and went against the majority and it was not a small margin and this was in bat shit crazy progressive California.

        Same happened with controlling insurance rates!

        As much as I love this country there are aspects of it that are bad such as buying favor if you have enough money you can literally buy access to power.

        • Soloview November 18, 2019 at 12:17 pm #

          “Activist judge” ? The Supreme Court ruled gay marriage is a constitutional right, so that made Prop 8 out of bounds.

          • benr November 18, 2019 at 1:42 pm #

            Prior to that!
            I have yet to see where marriage is defined in the Constitution one way or the other.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 18, 2019 at 11:51 am #

        You want to given even more power to the Mob, the great Mass of Ignorant and Unwashed? The Lumpen Proletariat? They will “vote” their rights away for a bag of candy. And drop a dime on everyone they don’t like. Show trials on every corner every Friday night.

        You will get Barrabas not Christ; Robespierre, not Danton. Pure Democracy is pure Tyranny from a million inferior brains and vicious wills. Until a group of strong Men arise to end it – and from them, ONE!

        • elysianfield November 18, 2019 at 1:01 pm #

          “You will get Barrabas not Christ; Robespierre, not Danton. Pure Democracy is pure Tyranny from a million inferior brains and vicious wills”

          Nice construct. An obscure truth well told.

      • Uncle Bob November 18, 2019 at 10:29 pm #

        If we dump the Electoral College, as demanded by the word losers, er some Democrats,our national policies will be dictated by New York, LA, San Fran, and other batshit insane large cities, leaving flyover America at their mercy. Once that’s done, what will be the point of 50 individual states, or even congressional districts? Imagine a Congress with 100 Senators and 435 Representatives who are essentially AOC’s and Tlaibs and Schumers. Another thing to think about is, what will happen if/when the radical Left takes over both houses of Congress, the Presidency, and the judiciary. Anyone who disagrees with them cou!d meet the same end as opponents of the original Jacobins. Finally, given the ties between much of the plutocracy (Soros, the tech billionaires, etc.), China, the State Department, and the defense/intelligence organizations, it seems apparent that the goal is to remake everything in their image, and fuck the other 7+ billion people on Earth. While people like Glenn Beck think there’s a chance to reverse this situation, it seems readily apparent that our gooses are damn well cooked — if not now, then certainly by 2025 at the latest (presuming Trump wins next year and serves out his second term, and the American people elect a Bolshevik in 2024 because “it’s the Democrats’ turn”). As I’ve written before, GGG isn’t ideal, but he’s all that stands between us and waking up in Stalin’s USSR.

        • abbybwood November 19, 2019 at 1:06 am #

          I saw this week where Talib was crying to her staff, “I need money for childcare and car repairs! I just can’t MAKE IT on $175k/year plus the best medical benefits in the country!”

          Cry me a RIVER!

          My message to Talib: Get your shit together and get on a freaking budget like most Americans do! Many with kids and cars that need repairs living on $30k/year!

          She makes me sick. And it doesn’t matter WHAT her politics are!

          You seriously want to be a member of Congress? Get a reputable accountant and figure it out!

          • MontanaMan November 19, 2019 at 7:18 am #

            I couldn’t agree more with you!!!!!

          • Majella November 21, 2019 at 6:52 pm #

            I think you’ll find, if you bothered to read the article, you’re talking about prior to her election, that is prior to her generous $175k salary, but while she had to maintain her house & family and earn nothing.

            Yes, she asked for a $5K loan from her campaign committee, which refused her as it was illegal. Is ASKING for it worthy of a criminal investigation? It certainly is, but any court process would take into account any mitigating circumstances.

            Contrast this with the GOP position on the major crimes of FFvC & his gangsters – the usual defense is that they didn’t SUCCEED in their criminal endeavors, so there’s nothing to see here.

            But you get on your high horse over $5k and don’t even have the facts right.

        • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 1:53 pm #

          GGG isn’t ideal. High praise indeed!

    • DrTomSchmidt November 18, 2019 at 11:55 am #

      Do read the linked speech JHK cited. Barr is a very serious man.

    • K-Dog November 18, 2019 at 12:38 pm #

      But yes we have no bananas.

  7. malthuss November 18, 2019 at 10:25 am #

    future shock

    crisis on crisis

    collapse is disorderly..o say can you see?

    • JohnAZ November 18, 2019 at 10:30 am #

      Watch the deep blue areas for the advance of The Long Emergency. The most liberal gimme states are in process of collapsing with the governments becoming useless in combatting social dysfunction. The haves are deserting their respective ships and infecting other areas with their progressivism. Funny isn’t it. The Progressives are leading us right back into the Middle Ages.

      • BackRowHeckler November 18, 2019 at 10:44 am #


        In the zones of which you speak, indeed, governments are promoting social dysfunction, not combatting it.


      • malthuss November 18, 2019 at 1:33 pm #

        Illinois pension funds. and many other pensions.

        • thenuttyneutron November 18, 2019 at 8:48 pm #

          I bet a lot of money can be made with the Illinois default simply by going long on companies that produce Fancy Feast or Friskies.

          • abbybwood November 19, 2019 at 1:09 am #

            Fancy Feast isn’t too bad with a little rice and enough condiments….

            I mean, my cat seems to like it!

  8. JohnAZ November 18, 2019 at 10:25 am #

    Look around, the Left is slowly winning the battle of the parties. The margins are getting closer and closer and the effects of the advance of the gimmes is taking hold. Two governorships now where the influence of Trump has not been worth a whit. The level of “smarts” in the electorate is fading fast now. 2020 is not looking good. Freebie is becoming a cult word.

    • ellipsis November 18, 2019 at 10:44 am #

      You’re ignoring the fact that the stage is already being set for Queen Hillary to sweep in and take the nomination (by “popular demand” of course!) again. She’s Trump’s or whoever replaces him’s ace in the hole. No matter how stupid the electorate is, absent fixing the election outright (a distinct possibility), she’ll never win. But in that case, we’ll have bigger problems anyway. Like say, basic legitimacy itself, if DC still has any.

      • PeteAtomic November 18, 2019 at 10:54 am #

        Queen Hillary is talking her self into it. At least she has been on some talk show or other claiming “lots of ppl want her to run” LOL.. are these ppl living in her head??

        I don’t know 🙂 ha

        • Nightowl November 18, 2019 at 4:33 pm #

          I hope she does. It would be the final humiliation in her worthless life.

          Plus we will likely again have the pleasure of seeing her bloated, porpoise-like, Maoesque-clad form get chucked into a van like a side of beef.

          I would pay to see that again.

          • seawolf77 November 18, 2019 at 6:38 pm #

            Doesn”t hold a candle to finding those nude pictures of Trump. I mean have you see seen him playing tennis. In white, of course. That derrier. It’s like watching a pillow stuffed with marbles roll down the stairs.

          • Nightowl November 18, 2019 at 6:45 pm #

            Adam Schiff never got nudes.

            He was pranked live on air, to the amusement of all but the McResistance.

            That is what happens when one has the IQ of a potato.

          • seawolf77 November 18, 2019 at 7:14 pm #

            You mean by No Nose.

          • Uncle Bob November 18, 2019 at 10:40 pm #

            Be careful what you wish for. If the cackling hag is nominated, there’s a good chance her financier friends would tank the markets during the campaign, creating a financial panic that likely would cause her to win in a walk.

          • abbybwood November 19, 2019 at 1:10 am #


          • Ron Anselmo November 19, 2019 at 1:23 am #

            Yep. Just for laughs, let’s let HRC have one more swing. But she has to promise that after she whiffs again, she can’t just go back to the dugout. She has to go down the tunnel to the clubhouse, hang up her pantsuit, go straight out the back door and never look back. A walk in the woods OK, but never allowed back in the ballpark.

          • MontanaMan November 19, 2019 at 7:20 am #

            Same here!!! I wanna see her ass pass out and hit the stage like a sack of hog feed!!!!

          • PeteAtomic November 19, 2019 at 8:32 am #

            ‘ bloated, porpoise-like, Maoesque-clad form’

            wow, that’s a great description of her

      • JohnAZ November 18, 2019 at 11:05 am #

        Obama may have just put his preferiti into the Fray, the Black guy from Boston. This thing may just blow sky high.

        • PeteAtomic November 18, 2019 at 11:07 am #

          yea but John.. John…. CNN & MSNBC are telling everyone Buttygeeg will win the Iowa caucus and catapult him to frontrunner.. and who are we to go against CNN & MSNBC??


          • abbybwood November 19, 2019 at 1:21 am #

            Buttigigidygididy has ZERO chance with Blacks in the north or south or east or west especially after his idiotic campaign tried it’s new outreach to Black voters with his “Fredrick Douglas” campaign. One major problem: The picture used was of a mother and child from Kenya, NOT Cleveland or Columbia or Chattanooga.

            And four of the six people quoted in the campaign turned out to be White!


            If ANY Democrat running for President cannot offer Blacks a serious proposal to demonstrably change their lives for the better over the next four years….for REAL, he/she can forgetaboutit.

        • stelmosfire November 18, 2019 at 1:04 pm #

          Deval is Barack’s bud. Notice how Obama has not endorsed his former VP. Deval is his man and Deval is not some commoner. Take a look at his “vacation” home is the Berkshires.
          He is just another Po boy from Chitown
          He was my governor and the sound of his feminine voice drives me nuts

          • malthuss November 18, 2019 at 1:34 pm #

            You were not a Jackson 5 fan.

          • abbybwood November 18, 2019 at 2:40 pm #

            Funny how Patrick took Mitt Romney’s job at Bain Capital.

          • seawolf77 November 18, 2019 at 6:29 pm #

            Like listening to Tyson after he just knocked someone out.

          • Uncle Bob November 18, 2019 at 10:42 pm #

            Abby, did Devil Patrick the his dog to the roof of the family car?

    • PeteAtomic November 18, 2019 at 10:53 am #

      Based on the furor over Trump’s 2016 win, will the repubs immediately call for impeachment if there is a democrat winner in 2020?

      I think it could happen. As Tim Pool pointed out in one of his videos a few months ago, the 2 major parties have becoming more polarized, and there is a less centric position. There is just less and less reason for the 2 major parties to have any commonality.

      It’s not a good recipe for a stable country. Perhaps moving to a parliamentary model would be better (?) no idea.

      • JohnAZ November 18, 2019 at 11:01 am #

        Yup, the presidency will serve at the pleasure of whoever is in power in the Congress. If Trump is removed, the country will descend into coup after coup depending on who runs the House. The power of the executive branch will hurt this country globally.

        Boy, I’ll bet lots of people overseas are loving this idiocy.

        • PeteAtomic November 18, 2019 at 11:11 am #

          actually, I’d modify your statement from “whoever is in power in the Congress” to whoever is in power in the bureaucracy. Cuz, the permanent security state/bureaucracy in DC appear to be the real power players.

          I totally agree with foreign powers watching the idiocy. It’s like some kind of late stage empire’s melodrama.

          • JohnAZ November 18, 2019 at 12:30 pm #


            Congress has the power to impeach and convict. I think you are right though, in that the State and Intelligence communities are using the Congressional bully pulpit to Get Trump. His demeanor of confrontation and “you are fired” is blowing up on him, IMHO. Like Nixon, his ability to face his critics depends on how many “friends” he has watching his back. Nixon blew it, we will see what happens here.

            However, would he have gotten to where he is and done the things he has done, being a typical DS Namby-Pamby?

      • ellipsis November 18, 2019 at 11:02 am #

        Were HRC to win I think there would definitely be a case for immediate impeachment. Although I doubt impeachment would be the first or most drastic choice on offer in that case.

        • PeteAtomic November 18, 2019 at 11:17 am #

          I think if HRC would be elected, you’d have the repubs trying to run the same type of playbook against her, as what the dems have been doing with Trump since 2016.

          However, one major factor is that Hillary is a total swamp creature. She would represent the neo-imperialist & globalist goals of the US security state/Deep State very nicely. So, more foreign intervention, more global pro-elitist economic policy, etc. So, I doubt in HRC’s case that secret CIA operatives spying inside the White House would give the repubs any info– or that foreign intel agents would shop fictional dossiers to investigators, either (as 2 examples).

          • seawolf77 November 18, 2019 at 7:42 pm #

            They couldn’t and didn’t impeach Obama because he was as clean and shiny as a bright new freshly minted penny. Trump can’t make it through breakfast without breaking the law and you know what- Republicans dig it! “It was a perfect murder, the guy hardly bled at all, and you know I shot him with a smile on my face. Lindsay said he didn’t know I could be this nice. It was a perfect extortion. The guy even said he didn’t feel my foot on his throat. He said I had really fine shoe leather. Said he could smell the rich leather.”

          • Uncle Bob November 18, 2019 at 10:52 pm #

            Seawolf, you’re blindly partisan if you actually believe that bullshit. After all, The One bragged about assassinating people with drones; had his IRS go after anyone who opposed him; oversaw the Fast and Furious fiasco; encouraged the rise of Islamists and the intervention of Russia in the Middle East, as well as doing jack shit to protect Ukraine from Russia (e.g., sending blankets, not bullets to Ukraine); and not enforcing immigration laws worth a damn, for starters.

          • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 7:05 am #

            Your concrete is more like Play-Do. You do see that don’t you Uncle Boo Boo Bob?

          • benr November 19, 2019 at 8:36 am #


            You are wrong on all counts had Obama been a Republican he would have been impeached at a minimum and tossed from office.
            But since he was a DEMOCRAT and “black” he could almost get away with murder before anyone would do anything.

            Further add he was a tool of wall street and the bankster system so who is actually going to go after him?

          • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 9:04 am #

            Let me get this straight benr. They impeach Clinton for lying about sex with an intern but they don’t impeach Obama because he’s a democrat and black. That’s some steel trap you’ve got there for an intellect. I bet you could argue Butter finger vs Babe Ruth in front of the Supreme Court.

          • benr November 19, 2019 at 10:22 am #

            Speaking of steel traps yours appears rusted shut.

            Impeachment is a political process until it hits the Senate.
            So while old Bill was impeached he finished out his term.
            I know that is a difficult concept of a partisan hack such as yourself. Further he lied to Congress about abusing a young intern IN the Whitehouse parents everywhere were horrified at the prospect of their young daughters having cigars poked into places they don’t belong by men twice their age. Now look at your ilk aghast that someone claimed to grab em by the pussy. My my how the worm wiggles when the hook is set.

            So now move to the first “black President” if he had been impeached and removed from office or even just impeached it would have been called racially motivated at a minimum.
            A serious set back in the make black people feel better about themselves movement. Never mind Obama set back race relations fifty years.

            Simply saying you did not agree with all of his policies and not saying he was the smartest President ever got you called that horrible term “racists” and at the time no Republican wanted to be called racists.
            Now after twelve years straight no one cares about the over used term and it has lost all meaning.

            Please do try and keep up I know it is very hard to focus with them blinders on as you drink the cool aid flavored bong water.

      • Beryl of Oyl November 18, 2019 at 12:12 pm #

        You forget, Pete, how many “Republicans” stated their intention to vote for Hillary over Trump, Paul Ryan and his omnibus spending, George Bush, who remained silent during Obama’s administration coming out to bash this president, I could go on and on.
        I correctly predicted that if a Republican won the White House, the Republicans still would not do anything about Obamacare.
        As Ann Coulter has stated, and as I’ve mentioned before, the Republicans care about three things.
        Tax cuts, abortion, and the embassy in Jerusalem.

        • PeteAtomic November 18, 2019 at 12:34 pm #

          well you have some good points there, and it’s why I’m not a republican, personally. The repubs have their own agendas going on which are just as corporatist & pro-elitist (neo-con stuff) in their own right.

  9. teddyboy46 November 18, 2019 at 10:28 am #

    I am surprised the deep state is showing their hand so boldly in the impeachment hearings. I am also surprised at how foolish it all looks.

    • ellipsis November 18, 2019 at 10:32 am #

      We’re way beyond foolish now. We’re post-civilized, bordering on pre-anarchic. But cheer up! We’ll be full on anarchic before ya know it!

    • PeteAtomic November 18, 2019 at 11:20 am #

      I don’t think they give a shit. They are unelected operatives inside a security state. It would be like trying to arrest members of the Inner Party from Orwell’s novel, 1984.

      • K-Dog November 18, 2019 at 12:44 pm #

        I’m sure they see enough of how people are behind closed doors to froth at the mouth with disgust and disdain. They know most people are automatons without thoughts of their own who follow a script they are not even aware of. The effect of it is that if they do meet a dog who actually has a mind of their own and not following a private obsession out for cheap thrills they act firm stiff and stupid themselves.

        • K-Dog November 18, 2019 at 12:47 pm #

          Why do I say ‘I’m sure’. Fact is ‘I know’. People can’t pick up the mocking tone of ‘I’m sure’ in print. I need to remember that.

  10. ellipsis November 18, 2019 at 10:28 am #

    Of course it should be remembered that the Rs were the pioneers of modern scorched earth political policy, although they were mere pikers compared to the current Dem bunch. And of course BillyJeff and BarackHussein were hardly stalwart standard bearers for the LibDem brand either, having both long since sold their scruples for whatever pocket change was on offer.

    Rumor has it this morning that Trump might resign ahead of impeachment based on unspecified health issues. Don’t know if there’s any truth to that whatsoever, but it’s hard to imagine Pence being anything more than a puppet in his absence. But then again, ain’t they all? Break up the union!

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    • TiredOfTheTreadmill November 18, 2019 at 10:52 am #

      Agreed. The R’s started this whole ” no compromise, my way or the highway” crap when they went the whole whiny childish temper tantrum route to stop anything Clinton tried to do. (For all the people who live to hate Hillary, yeah, yeah, I know the Clinton’s are corrupt as hell.) So, good old asshat Newt Gingrich and his idiot Repubs began the politics of seeing how low we can go with Fox news cheerleading it all the way.

      Now the D’s are doing their best to go even lower. Enjoy the shit show. Or, do the American thing and find a way to profit from it. Besides, there won’t be anyone on the 2020 ballot for sane people to vote for. So, do your best to enjoy the journey enroute to the crash into the bottom of the cliff.

      • SW November 18, 2019 at 11:40 am #

        Nancy Pelosi was on TV Friday frantically repeating that Trump is accused of bribery — quid pro quo is too confusing to the hayseeds so she’s going clarify THAT point! She really looked like she needed to go up on the xanax.

        • ellipsis November 18, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

          I saw that. They’re already admitting that it’s about nothing more than messaging the messaging.

        • benr November 18, 2019 at 12:23 pm #

          Again as usual she is wrong.
          Bribery is not our guy bribing them but them bribing our guy.
          Once again Nancy Pelosi shows she is not fit for the job she is in and should retire.

          • elysianfield November 18, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

            Nancy Pelosi
            Worth 100 Mil…smart gal
            On the Gov’mnt tit

          • Nightowl November 18, 2019 at 4:38 pm #

            I love how they pretend Zelensky’s own comments don’t exist.

            Comments direct from the source — literally the guy they claim Trump was threatening. But they avoid them at all costs because he openly backs the President.

            You could not make this stuff up.

          • seawolf77 November 18, 2019 at 6:20 pm #

            That’s because he is the extortee, and Trump is the extorter. Nobody’s pretending anything.

          • Nightowl November 18, 2019 at 6:23 pm #

            Provide concrete evidence for your claim.

            You won’t. 🙂

          • seawolf77 November 18, 2019 at 6:24 pm #

            I mean this isn’t rocket science. We know the guy cheated to win. We’ll investigate him, write a report, cook up a crooked AG, and he’ll think he got away with it. Then, after we’re sure he thinks he got away with it (Have Mueller present to Congress and totally bomb, by design), he’ll do it again and we’ll be watching and we’ll catch him orange handed. Hell it’s not even 5th-grade science fair volcano science

          • Nightowl November 18, 2019 at 6:47 pm #

            Provide concrete evidence for your claims.

            Don’t be shy.

          • seawolf77 November 18, 2019 at 7:06 pm #

            You mean you want a concrete “Perfect,” or maybe a concrete “Witch Hunt,” or maybe a concrete “No Collusion,” or the kicker “It’s a Hoax.” I can see it now 10 ft tall concrete letters at the Trump Presidential Library. Republicans will be like Proximo when they come to visit and they’ll caress the bottom of the letters like the heads of their children.

          • Uncle Bob November 18, 2019 at 11:08 pm #

            Seawolf, for chrissakes, he a grownup. Your seditionist allies in the House are fomenting a revolution based upon the simple fact that your cackling piece of shit candidate lost, primarily because she ran a godawful campaign due to her stupid belief she was guaranteed to win (thus JHK’s term forher, Ms. Inevitability). On top of that, she spent time in Cali and NY, trying to boost her popular vote totals to show how popular she was, instead of campaigning to win the Electoral College in places like Wisconsin and Michigan, where important people such as she shouldn’t have to go. After hectoring Trump for not accepting the presumed election results, she and you and the rest of the Left have proceeded to — refuse to accept the election results! Thus, you HAVE to dump Trump because 1) ORANGE MAN BAD, and 2) you can’t accept that you/she fucking lost to a candidate you considered to be a joke.

          • Nightowl November 19, 2019 at 3:51 am #

            No crimes? No concrete evidence?

            Yet another member of the McResistance has left me wanting.

          • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 7:03 am #

            Uncle Boo Boo Bob think Orange Man good. Well paint my toes red. Have an Oreo Uncle Boo Boo Bob. Black on the outside, white on the inside. That’s a concept you understand right? Like orange on the outside, RED on the inside.

          • benr November 19, 2019 at 8:41 am #


            My goodness you are delusional if you think Trump is a communist or that he cheated in the elections!
            When they let you out of the nuthouse you have been in did they cheat you on them meds?

          • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 8:59 am #

            You know benr you remind me of that episode of the Sopranos when they find out Vito is gay and none of them want to believe it and finally Christopher says “So what do we have to actually see Vito take it up the ass?”

          • benr November 19, 2019 at 10:31 am #


            My goodness now you are committing the crime of homophobia sunshine!
            It’s 2019 and taking it in the dumper is no longer considered deviant by Democrat standards.
            How ever rich your fantasy life is please do stop projecting your fantasy on others I’m happily married for 27 years to the same women and have been with her since I was 18.
            No funny business with other women or men.
            Just as an aside Lorena Bobbitt has nothing on my wife she would not just chop it off and toss it in the street oh no down the garbage disposal it would go.

            Poor guy I know you are angry, lonely, and uglier than a mud fence but do try and be a little civil.
            A little high brow insult goes along ways but that straight for the sewer nonsense has already had you bounced from here.

          • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 2:15 pm #

            Yawn. At least my hero isn’t a Russian asset. Why do all roads lead to Putin? Speculate with as much idiocy as you used with me. You’ll get your fruitcake answer, and then you’ll be able to let go and get away. But Agent Orange won’t let you get away without paying a price. Early onset dementia is the fate of all who follow GGG. Isn’t that perfect.

          • benr November 19, 2019 at 5:03 pm #


            I just proved your hero zero Obama was a Russian asset with a simple video.

            How ever all that Russian asset nonsense is not even worth the paper used to print out that phony Steele Dossier.
            Talk about tin foil hat conspiracy nonsense!

            Seriously get some new factual material its pathetic how bad you are at trolling.

            You speak of early onset dementia and then by your posts look like you suffer from it.
            Trump as a Russian puppet is so three years ago.
            Don’t worry you might actually catch up to the false narrative de jour by the time he is out of office in 2024.
            Please seek help you are really suffering from some mental illness of some type.

          • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 7:01 pm #

            Sure. I’ll buy “Help!” I need a Beatles fix.

          • JustSaying November 20, 2019 at 3:57 pm #

            Nancy is worth 200 mil!

        • Nightowl November 20, 2019 at 8:55 am #

          No, it is because the Giant Hand of Truth slapped them in the face again.

          Volker now.


          This is beyond parody.

          • Nightowl November 20, 2019 at 8:56 am #

            Ahem, that should read both Volker AND Morrison.


          • Majella November 21, 2019 at 3:53 am #

            That reads rather weirdly, given that Harrison, as an overture to the next witness, basically confirmed the story as told to date. A witness Nunes &. Jordan wanted. Ha.

            Do you have a nutjob self-delusional explanation about Sondland’s staunch support of FFvCS?

            I really look forward to this one, given your blatant smearing of previous witnesses.

          • Nightowl November 21, 2019 at 5:21 am #


            No quid pro quo. No bribery. Also confirmed by Zelensky — the guy directly involved.

            So easy.

          • Majella November 21, 2019 at 7:00 pm #

            Cherry-picking evidence is so easy.

            This is a case of ‘patsy’ questions designed to evince a ‘no’ because we all know what was NOT explicit in the ‘perfect call’. And these guys were the GOP preferred witnesses as well, and unlikely to want to engage in any under-bus activities.

            The evidence around the weeks prior and following that point in time is much more telling.

          • Majella November 22, 2019 at 1:12 am #


          • Nightowl November 22, 2019 at 9:38 am #

            All witnesses back the President’s account.

            So easy.

  11. Cavepainter November 18, 2019 at 10:31 am #

    Sorry James, history has been made a political prisoner of partisan narratives. That being the case the general public suffers 4th stage complacency. “4th stage” borrowed from cancer diagnosis but in this case its intellectual cancer.

    • sunburstsoldier November 18, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

      As I see it partisanship arises whenever we fail to detach ourselves from our own perspective long enough to see things through the eyes of our adversary. This is what Jesus meant by first plucking the log out of our own eye before removing the splinter from that of our neighbor’s…

      How far the political process is from this simple truth! Could this in itself be one of the major underlying causes of this country’s gradual demise?

      • Cavepainter November 18, 2019 at 7:32 pm #

        Not “glandular” demise, right?

  12. PeteAtomic November 18, 2019 at 10:49 am #

    A.G. Barr is totally correct. However, I don’t believe they’ll be much accountability. We’re talking about the US Fed. Gov’t, after all.

    and something I just noticed, a little spelling error there:

    “a major player in the previous RuissiaGate dodge”


  13. JohnAZ November 18, 2019 at 10:56 am #

    Ha. Just read a story about the ult left getting all over Obama for being too moderate. That is actually humorous. Obama says that the world is more complex that people know and that the Leftist swing is dangerous to the Party.

    No kidding! And the man has been in the hot seat and knows what is really happening. Scary!

  14. neon sky November 18, 2019 at 10:56 am #

    The battle is shaping up. Sadly, the people will be the losers. FUBAR!

    • PeteAtomic November 18, 2019 at 11:05 am #

      I don’t know. I’m hopeful for a steady, non-violent driftful (is that a word?) breakdown of the Union. Just let everybody slowly stand down and decentralize.
      As long as “winning” doesn’t occur in the Charlie Sheen sense of the word, a natural re-ordering of the continent may not be a bad thing.

      Although I’m fully aware that I’ve drank some spiked Kool-Aid somewhere down the line, and really what is in store is the breakup of Yugoslavia meets the Rwandan genocide. Maybe just or more as likely. Who knows.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 18, 2019 at 11:59 am #

        Tens of million Germans were forced to leave Northeastern Europe after the defeat. Millions of them didn’t make it due to cold, disease, starvation, and Slavic violence. Is there any reason we can’t make the Hispanics leave in the same way – minus all the bad stuff? Don’t say it can’t be done – it was.

        Rest of the comment deleted for Jew-bashing. –JHK Admin

        • ellipsis November 18, 2019 at 12:33 pm #

          Dissolve the federal state and all its bureaucratic malfeasance and largesse and things will gradually get back to normal in time. Most of the problems we have right now exist at the local level and can only be solved at that level, but first the federal leviathan needs to be exterminated or at least cut down to a manageable size. In the process, the east coast Zionist banking cartel will find out that their brand of elitist bullshit doesn’t play nearly so well out here in flyover country and that without the Fed protection racket they’re running they might just be on the menu themselves.

        • Cavepainter November 18, 2019 at 12:45 pm #

          Well Janos, again, “History has been made a political prisoner of partisan narrative”. Speaking of which, had the native Americans had numbers and weapon superiority do you believe there would be today European reservations? And,….. if the colonies had declared a policy aimed at preventing the dispersion of the floods of European immigrants beyond the territory of the colonies, could such policy be enforced? The answer is an emphatic no, accepting the fact that policing such vast range against the unmanageable rate of immigration. Essentially, using the military to prevent slaughter of “pioneers” by the “noble savages” was a default necessity — pitched for political capital (moral signalling like today) by demagogues of the age. But no, had the advantage been in favor of the Natives then there wouldn’t be now reservations for European settlers because the Natives hadn’t been civilized by the Enlightenment and the preceding advancements of Western Culture that led up to it.

        • K-Dog November 18, 2019 at 12:59 pm #

          The important thing is to leave small patches of land so they can open smoke shops and sell things politicians don’t want the regular population to have after a new equilibrium is reached. Like flavored e-juice and tax free smokes. Having a few sovereign territories left over is always a good idea. Casinos in Lebensraum would have been interesting.

          Everyone else please note I am responding to Janos and only doubling down on his nonsense. I am in jest because he is such a funny guy.

        • malthuss November 18, 2019 at 1:38 pm #

          Tens of million Germans were forced to leave Northeastern Europe after the defeat.
          Millions of them didn’t make it due to cold, disease, starvation, and Slavic violence.
          No movies have been made about this Human Tragedy of epic proportions. /

          How many died on the death march?
          do you know about the road of bones?

  15. RocketDoc November 18, 2019 at 11:09 am #

    Intransigence. A refusal to budge or condone. The Republican game plan when Obama was elected was simple–no cooperation on anything the Democrats wanted to do. Was, stonewall everything, a “loyal opposition” tactic? Bush handed him a pile of shit and said make something tasty out of that, sucker. I fault Obama for mismanaging the two issues I consider most important: unrestrained military spending and checking/punishing Wall Street financial excess. That the Republicans support both these issues is merely an argument for their complicity as well. Both parties have interests that are not mine nor the average deplorable.
    But Trump is a special kind of train wreck that simply blows up whatever competence the government functionaries are trying to exhibit. I don’t see any good guys leading the sumo wrestling competition we are stuck with. I have always hated the multiple cross cutting legal investigations that have government lawyers on both sides with government district attorneys and government judges with government inspector generals all madly petitioning and piling up billable hours as they fly hither and yon making statements that do nothing for the average citizen. To find the Truth? Oh, please..

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    • Cavepainter November 18, 2019 at 11:28 am #

      Need I preface that, like so many commenting here, Trump might not present the most sterling of personal traits and character (and, oh my, he doesn’t dress or groom like the TV talking heads)…..but, unlike the Left, he hasn’t attempted sedition or the absolute abolishment of the principles and order of our democratic republic.

      • capt spaulding November 18, 2019 at 1:49 pm #

        I agree. He’s more concerned with lining his own pockets & those of his kids, than he is with running the country. Oh, and how is that swamp doing? Is it clean enough to drink out of yet?

        • Uncle Bob November 18, 2019 at 11:22 pm #

          As opposed to the Clintons, who got millions of dollars of bribes, er illegal campaign contributions from foreign governments? How about the Kennedys and their board from receiving import duties from scotch? How did The One afford His new house on Martha’s Vineyard, when he wasn’t ridiculously rich before becoming prez but can now afford a house that cost in the neighborhood of $15 mil? The list goes on and on.

          • benr November 19, 2019 at 8:43 am #

            @ Uncle Bob

            Oblamer has book deals from books he did not write and he also bought into the gore blood carbon trading scam.
            He also is getting compensated for all the money he tossed around as resident in the Whitehouse.

          • capt spaulding November 19, 2019 at 11:58 am #

            Well gee, Uncle Bob, I guess if those other guys did it, that makes it ok that Trump did it too.

          • Nightowl November 20, 2019 at 7:42 am #

            Well, gee. All you need is some evidence for that claim.

            Help a dawg out.

          • capt spaulding November 20, 2019 at 11:15 am #

            Sure thing, right after Uncle Bob provides some evidence to back up his claim. I see that you don’t appear to have any trouble believing what he says. Without proof.

          • Nightowl November 20, 2019 at 4:05 pm #

            No proof? Those are some awfully big claims you made.

          • capt spaulding November 20, 2019 at 7:09 pm #

            What claims are you disputing? Please list them, and the reasons you say they are incorrect.

          • Nightowl November 21, 2019 at 5:12 am #

            Your claim that “… trump did it too,” as well as still unsupported claims that Trump is “a criminal” (from previous threads).

            I am merely repeating your own nebulous claims.

            By all means, indulge us.

    • SW November 18, 2019 at 11:33 am #

      Where to even begin in this mess?! How many millions have already been spent in the courts and how many more to come? So while the vitriol ratchets up and these self-righteous “public servants” bleed us dry, their constituents sink deeper in debt. To pay for health care premiums (if you even have the chance for insurance through an employer), an apartment in a city that has jobs, car payments, and the most basic utilities and food takes more money than most people make. I’d like to see everyone involved in this farce be brought to justice but I don’t think it would change anything.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 18, 2019 at 12:16 pm #

      Omnibus spending. Paul Ryan.

    • draupnir November 18, 2019 at 3:07 pm #

      I believe, as a people, we prefer to give a sitting president an opposition congress. It happens often, and what purpose does it serve, if not to hamstring everybody and ensure the least harm is done? Look at them now. The bickering is rapidly approaching violence. I expect to see fists flying soon. The next Democrat elected to office will get a Republican House at the very least and any chance of cooperation at this point becomes increasingly unlikely, except they seem to manage to unite when it comes to repressing the people. Their universal hatred of us is glaringly apparent.

    • benr November 19, 2019 at 12:20 pm #

      Consider this clip of stuttering bumbling Obama.


      Granted he never said bus but it was implied and one does not throw smoky heaping piles of crap at the opposition and expect them to play nice back.

  16. PeteAtomic November 18, 2019 at 11:22 am #

    When the fuck did the democrats– who used to be (at least I remember them being) kind of a group of anti-establishment types, become the champions for the Secret Police?

    When did this happen? During the Clinton years?

    • Walter B November 18, 2019 at 11:43 am #

      I’d say you called it!

      • Beryl of Oyl November 18, 2019 at 12:21 pm #

        Clinton joined forces with Pappy, and became like a son to him.
        A smart one, the kind of son George wished he’d had.
        The Clintons’ fortunes increased dramatically after that.
        Pappy even assigned one of his boys to go after the Republican nomination just so there would be no choice but Bill’s wife available to the electorate.

        I don’t know why people can’t see this.
        BTW, it was a Bush who leaked that Access Hollywood tape that was supposed to knock Donald Trump out of the race.

        • malthuss November 18, 2019 at 1:39 pm #

          pray tell more.

      • Nightowl November 18, 2019 at 6:22 pm #

        Entirely one-dimensional. Globalism knows no party.

    • JustSaying November 18, 2019 at 11:58 am #


      It’s the NEW Democrats, aka the Clintons and Obamas.

    • capt spaulding November 18, 2019 at 1:55 pm #

      When did the Republicans become super-best friends with the Soviet Union? Friends to the point of giving them Northern Iraq, and increased power over the middle east? Oh yeah, he pissed all over the Kurds too, but he’s a New York realtor, and that’s how they do business, so he knows they’ll get over it sooner or later.

      • draupnir November 18, 2019 at 3:28 pm #

        I’d rather have Russia as a friend than an enemy, and they would have preferred to be our friends. Our old cold warriors have resurrected the Cold War for heaven sake, needing an external enemy to point us at, so we are too distracted to notice the enemy within.

        We can no longer hold everything we’ve stolen in the Middle East. The oil fields of Syria are paramount, and must be protected at all costs. Support from less important holdings are being withdrawn in favor of that.

        As for the Kurds, we’re always betraying the Kurds. George Bush 41 encouraged them to rise up against Saddam in the first Gulf War, promising to have their backs. Then he withdrew, leaving Saddam in power and deserting them. Saddam, in retribution, used poison gas on Kurdish villages and there was no outrage from the White House or Congress then. This is a clear case of fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

        The whole world knows we only keep our promises as long as it is convenient to do so. I bet the whole world is wondering what to do about us as our empire crumbles. Like a wounded animal, we are extremely dangerous.

        • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 2:57 pm #

          Another whistleblower says Kushner greenlighted the Kasogghi murder to his owner MBS of KSA and the Turkey president has a tape of it and blackmailed Trump to get American troops out of his way so he could ethnically cleanse the area.

        • Majella November 21, 2019 at 4:00 am #

          ‘Better dead than red’ is now ‘I’d rather be a Russian than a Democrat’.

          Sad. Sellouts all. You think Russia is now ‘alright’ because the Soviet structure is gone? You think Putin has no ambitions to dominate Europe? FFvCS as a useful idiot, and thrown a spinner in Europe’s works with the Brexit hoax.

          The USA has been emasculated by Trump. All roads lead to Putin indeed.

      • B_NOLA November 18, 2019 at 3:32 pm #

        Communism was the enemy, not Russia. They abandoned communism 30 years ago.

      • PeteAtomic November 19, 2019 at 12:10 am #

        the repubs were friends of the Soviet Union?


        • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 3:00 pm #

          That’s the thing no one saw coming. Russia is our newest, most best-est friend. All roads lead to Putin. It’s the truth. I mean Trump sort of defended Putin when he was on Morning Joe saying we do a lot of killing around the world too. I think that was the beginning of the end for Trump and Joe and Mika.

    • Nightowl November 18, 2019 at 6:20 pm #

      It is the fruition of the neocon/lib takeover achieved in the last nearly two decades.

      Globalism is the trough the pigs feed at, and the media machine sold lower-IQ libs Hope and Change, which was really just a continuation of Shrub’s PNAC masterplan.

      It is quite amazing that the prog/modern lib now speaks, acts and votes like Bloody BIll Kristol, without a hint of irony. It was only a year ago or so that they were parading Shrub around (a guy even the most warmed over puddings could once identify as “bad”) as a decent guy when he was making the prog talk show rounds.

  17. Walter B November 18, 2019 at 11:27 am #

    Good that you mention Attorney General Barr Jim. I was referred to the speech Mr. Barr made at the Notre Dame Law school by my attorney last Thursday:


    I happen to have a very close friend that deals with Attorney General Barr on a regular basis. When I asked my friend if Mr. Barr was as good as he came off during this speech, I was told “Yes he is the real deal, he is a great man”. I am very fortunate to be able to gather data from people that actually work with some of these officials rather then being forced to develop a brainless opinion based on either wing’s propaganda. I suppose most people want to be used and manipulated. I am blessed to not have to settle for that kind of treatment.

    • DrTomSchmidt November 18, 2019 at 12:00 pm #

      As I said above, read that speech that JHK linked. Barr is a serious man, and I suspect is going to do some serious things.

      • Walter B November 18, 2019 at 12:04 pm #

        Whether he or they will be able to accomplish anything is one thing, just knowing that there are those of character joined in the battle brings a great hope to my heart. Hope and change, right? Where have I heard that before, I wonder…….

    • EvelynV November 19, 2019 at 1:58 am #


      Whether you are forced to develop your brainless opinions based on either wing’s propaganda or you develop them on your own or from your …ahem…friend, does it really matter?

      A brainless opinion, as you say you’ve developed, is still a brainless opinion innit?

      • benr November 19, 2019 at 8:49 am #

        I find it odd that you rarely ever actually produce anything of value or worth on this site.
        What little content you post is either as brainless as you claim other peoples to be or simply insulting.
        Not relevant, reasonable or coherent just nasty caustic attitude wrapped up in an ugly spirit.
        At least tell Walter why you believe his post was brainless and point him to the “truth” at least as your warped mind sees it.

        • EvelynV November 19, 2019 at 11:21 am #

          As alway bentover, your comprehension is poor. He himself said his opinions were brainless.

          • benr November 19, 2019 at 12:26 pm #

            As always another snarky comment but thanks for the update.
            As far as bentover meme try taking a shower once in awhile and not being so nasty all the time and maybe someone will notice you.
            Even a nasty troll like you can get a hook up on Tinder or oldhag.com.
            Ah who are we kidding you have not had your plumbing plumbed in years,

          • seawolf77 November 20, 2019 at 8:54 am #

            You seem to always comment about other people not getting laid. Apparently you think that is an insult. Maybe you should reconsider.

          • Majella November 21, 2019 at 4:08 am #


            benr stated up thread that he has been happily married for 27 years (to the same women, no less, he clarified!). From that, it’s not impossible to extrapolate that he hasn’t been laying any pipe for a good decade – or more, possibly. This might explain his obsession with ‘plumbing’.

            Aside from that little factoid, you’ll also observe just how quick our benr is with the nasty ‘ad hominem’ snarks, yet gets really pissy if he gets one back. Some weeks ago, my autocorrect defaulted to ‘bent’ and I didn’t notice to correct it. Judging by his (illiterate) reaction, this crime was about as bad as of Obama’s as far as he was concerned.

            Lots of fun trolling the ‘Troll’s troll’.

        • Majella November 22, 2019 at 1:21 am #

          bend – your lack of self-awareness is staggering. You should change your handle to Pot/Kettle/Black. It’d save us all time.

  18. drwater November 18, 2019 at 11:38 am #

    Getting back to the “whistleblower” – I am somewhat amazed that nobody has bothered to read the actual law (HR 3694) that supposedly protects the identity of the whistleblower. It only applies to acts “relating to the funding, administration, or operations of an intelligence activity involving classified information”. I have yet to hear anywhere that a phone call to the Ukrainian president qualifies as a CIA intelligence activity. Therefore, the “whistleblower” has no identity protection under the law as written.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 18, 2019 at 12:22 pm #

      Nothing about those hearings has anything to do with law.

      • K-Dog November 18, 2019 at 1:06 pm #

        I don’t think you understand the law yet. If I go to my website and see a ping from Lviv Ukraine which I often do, I’ll become eligible for CIA scrutiny. Being less than 200 miles from the coast even makes for special rules.

        But you pulled a fast one. You tried to trick everyone into believing the CIA actually follows the rule of law, but tell us, exactly who would make sure they do? The good-old boys club?

        • drwater November 18, 2019 at 1:43 pm #

          The law is pretty clear that the intent is to apply to an organized activity. No specific CIA activity or program has ever been mentioned in association with the specific phone call. The “whistleblower” situation is one more charade in this whole thing.
          Regarding holding the CIA to the rule of law, I guess we can only hope that eventually the law wins out. Maybe that is optimistic.

          • ellipsis November 18, 2019 at 4:50 pm #

            The Dems have fashioned themselves to be a modern day improvisational jazz ensemble and to just go up and riff and see if anybody follows their tune. Unfortunately, white boy Schiff’s got a tin ear, can’t read music, and can’t improvise for shit, while McConnell (“The Decider”) absolutely (and not surprisingly) hates jazz altogether. Meanwhile Pelosi lurches around DC like the vacuous twit she is just hoping for it to all be over with already.

            Let’s wait and see if it plays as comedy. So far it looks like the modern dry comedy stuff that some of the young’ns go for (The Office), where people say incredibly stupid things and no one really laughs at all except to self-consciously and awkwardly chuckle afterward just to fit in.

          • Nightowl November 18, 2019 at 6:39 pm #


            Every “star witness” has been unable to point to a crime when asked point blank (making for rather hilarious viewing), and has admitted to no first-hand knowledge of anything.

            Bug eyes will continue to shift the goal posts will continue to be shifted, with the media amplifying each new wacky turn.

            But the unvarnished reality is that there is no crime offered to the public, because there is no evidence for a crime.

            The entire inquiry is for impeachment optics, in a last ditch effort to avoid a landslide in 2020.

        • capt spaulding November 18, 2019 at 1:56 pm #

          “Quo custodiat ipsos custodes?”

      • Nightowl November 18, 2019 at 6:43 pm #

        Because it is not an actual impeachment.

        They know they have no crime and lack votes. So we get optics to influence votes in 2020.

        • seawolf77 November 18, 2019 at 7:31 pm #

          This from a party who impeached a president for lying about sex with an intern. Here you have a president extorting another country with military aide and they’re like “Move along nothing to see here.” Of course, the world is exploding behind them. Bribery is payment for corruption. Extortion is a threat of violence for corruption. At the heart of both is corruption. I’ll give you money if you do this. I’ll break your legs if you don’t do that. This for that. Most women and most men do not want to live in a world like that. A few women and almost all white men do. That’s why Trump is their guy. He’d even cheat to win for them. It’s the moral equivalent of Hitler’s Beer Hall Putsch. He’d go to jail for us. He’d die for us. It’s that little worm dangling in the water and all of the Republican large-mouthed basses can’t wait to bite. Unfortunately, Trump is 73 and can’t do 5 years to be dictator.

          • Nightowl November 19, 2019 at 3:56 am #

            Another claim with no concrete evidence; hilariously contradicted by Schiff’s own “star witnesses” and the Ukraine’s President himself — you know the actual guy involved.

            Your IQ, it may be low.

          • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 6:59 am #

            The guy being extorted, the one you believe when he says there’s no foot on his neck. Yes, I can follow you. What do you think? I’m stuck in concrete?

          • Nightowl November 19, 2019 at 7:59 am #

            Lay out the crime in detail and back with concrete evidence.

        • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 7:03 pm #


          • Nightowl November 20, 2019 at 7:44 am #

            See? You have nothing.


        • Majella November 21, 2019 at 4:11 am #

          Nightowl; ‘ They know they have no crime and lack votes.’

          Two words – ‘Gordon Sondland’

          • Nightowl November 21, 2019 at 5:37 am #


            Witnesses back the President’s account, as does Zelensky — the man at the center.

            I bet the Jello is really quivering now.

          • Majella November 21, 2019 at 7:11 pm #

            More cherry-picking. Context is everything.

            By the time of this conversation, the whistleblower’s complaint had been advised to the WH and FFvCS knew they’d been busted, and that he wasn’t going to get his public smear by way of the public announcement of an investigation (which he could ride all the way home through the election if he found himself up against Joe Biden).

            So, knowing his problem was the PERSONAL INTEREST advantage (as opposed to National Interest) sought by way of the stenchingly unmissable quid pro quo, he threw his toys out of the cot, cried and screamed, and gave it all up.

            The fact that he even used the expression quid pro quo tells us all tat this is post whistleblower complaint. The expression would not have passed through his tiny mind prior to taht point, which is when he asked someone ‘What’s a quid pro quo?”

          • Majella November 22, 2019 at 1:25 am #

            *more crickets*

          • Nightowl November 22, 2019 at 9:26 am #

            All on video.

            So easy.

  19. volodya November 18, 2019 at 11:38 am #

    Bill Maher talks about “anti-intellectualism” on the Right. Which makes me laugh given that there’s no idea so cockamamie that an “intellectual” can’t believe it and the Left is just full-to-bursting with the bizarre, the irrational, the nonsensical, or what one guy deems “luxury beliefs”, those being ways of thinking that when put into practice are calamitous for the practitioner, unless the practitioner has got wealth and income as a buffer.

    In any case I’m probably one of those that Maher is talking about. But I’m not “anti-intellectual” in the slightest. I’m anti-luxury belief, and anti-idiocy in general, idiocy in its various guises being the chief product of the modern-day “intellectual” set, those being largely on the Left. And, guilty as charged, I’m one of those pointing my finger and laughing at them. Not that I’m on the Right. Left-Right is a sloppy convenience, a way of corralling people into opposing camps, the better to dominate them.

    Modern-day conservatism got shit-canned in the 2016 election by Republican voters as being a con-job, which it was in its entirety, which is probably why we’re seeing a lot of conservative Republicans taking a pass on the next election. As far as the “progressive” Left goes, it’s going to be an uphill battle to get Democrat voters to realize that their party of choice has not got one damned thing to so with progress or justice or any of the other things they tout, their leaders in the pockets of a handful of billionaires. As they say in the vernacular, Democrat faithful are being played for suckers.

    So the Democrat Party is alive and well (unlike its counter-part) with a lot of allies in the Deep State as we’ve witnessed in this impeachment baloney, but especially so in the judicial system. Which leads us to Bill Barr. In the first place talk is exceedingly cheap so even if you guff up a storm on speech-night, it doesn’t necessarily translate into indictments, and given reams of politicized judges and a highly polarized citizenry serving as jurors, indictments won’t necessarily turn into convictions, even if the evidence points to a verdict of guilty, guilty, guilty as sin. The USA has nothing like a system of rational, impartial justice, it’s rather a mirror of the political theater, every bit as hysterical and wild-eyed and spittle-flecked, with highly ideologized judges pulling constitutional justifications out of their asses to overturn policies they don’t like.

    Our esteemed host listed a cast of characters in the long-running drama as due for a comeuppance but I am so doubtful that any of them will ever see the inside of a court-room let alone a federally-run time-out facility, that I will be stunned if it happens. But this fold of the cosmos appears to be run by a trickster deity, one that apparently slips in and out of our mortal realm to nudge events for his own amusements, you know, a banana peel here, an Ed Snowden there, that you just can’t know what prank he’s got up his sleeve. So, much as I’d like to say I’ll eat my shorts, lightly sauteed in olive oil, with minced garlic and a light sprinkling of rosemary and salt and pepper if the likes of Brennan ever gets served with papers, I’ll desist.

    • PeteAtomic November 18, 2019 at 11:40 am #

      wow double plus good post

      • capt spaulding November 18, 2019 at 1:58 pm #

        Love that newspeak.

      • ellipsis November 18, 2019 at 4:31 pm #

        A real treat-ise!

    • rackslope November 18, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

      Damn. You make me want to be a smarter man.

    • Beryl of Oyl November 18, 2019 at 12:32 pm #

      Excellent, V.

      I hear the prison guards may be called out on the carpet over the death of Jeffrey Epstein (who didn’t kill himself) while in custody.
      Barr was said to be very ticked off that it was allowed to happen. So when he says he’s going to get to the bottom of something, it must mean the very bottom, literally.

      • volodya November 18, 2019 at 1:23 pm #


        The Epstein thing stinks of murder most foul, all in aid of covering the worthless asses of moneyed perverts with the addition of one more joke of an investigation.

        But if it ain’t all that, then it’s the most convenient death in the history of death and if not the most, then it’s at least in the top ten.

        And how in the fuck do we get yet ANOTHER scenario of dozens of girls abused for years and years with nary a protective male (father, brother, grandfather, boyfriend, uncle, cousin etc) in sight to beat the daylights out of the perp.

        It boggles the mind, this gross and grotesque abdication of what MEN have been endowed by nature and are SUPPOSED to do.

        • draupnir November 18, 2019 at 3:36 pm #

          These days, that is considered toxic masculinity.

    • Soloview November 18, 2019 at 1:19 pm #

      I don’t think the Barr-Durham efforts will materialize in grand jury indictments and if they do they will likely end up killed in the ensuing stages. The problem that Jim, for all his acuity and perception of the issues, does not want to see is that the actors are simply “too big to fail”. Unless Brennan, Comey, Yates, Price, McCabe are totally stupid and left an unmistakably incriminating paper or electronic trail (a la Nixon) advising underlings to deceive the court, the FISA swindle will be defended as procedural errors by subordinates, and if these prove to be certifiable nuts like Peter Strzok, then by their overstepping the bounds. What I find amusing – even though it’s sad – is how both sides are blind to the obvious issues to the case they are presenting. At this point, if I were to desist eating my seasoned shorts, it would betting that Trump will end up devoured by the NY Southern District Court two years hence on rackeetering charges, like Valeant’s Mike Pearson, but with a sentence closer to Roger Stone’s.

  20. drwater November 18, 2019 at 11:43 am #

    On the flip side, I am also somewhat mystified how our host does not see that using foreign aid as a campaign tool violates campaign finance law.

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    • Walter B November 18, 2019 at 11:56 am #

      There is no law if there is no enforcement. Monies sent out every year to other countries runs in the hundreds of billions:


      How any of this can me monitored or enforced against corrupt is a foolish question to even ask. May as well just hand the money over to the senators and congressmen and cut out the middlemen.

      • capt spaulding November 18, 2019 at 1:59 pm #

        They’re trying Walter, they’re trying

        • Walter B November 18, 2019 at 5:29 pm #

          I know capt, I know. It’s just that I was tainted by a career where my superiors always warned me that I either got the job done or they would find someone who would. I never let them down,at least not until I went into business for myself and cut them all out of the profit stream.

  21. jivefive99 November 18, 2019 at 11:47 am #

    Do you how many people you are gonna have to apologize to (me included) if Donald resigns or gets voted out? His 15 minutes may be up pretty soon.

  22. wm5135 November 18, 2019 at 11:50 am #


    The move up to management, willingness to screw your fellow employees, for a $520.00 dollar a year raise is illustrative. That move up works out to $0.25 per hour. Have a look at the service industry and see the wonderful benefits of management.

    Place a net return of 10% per annum on the federal deficit and then tell me that Mr. Galbraith was wrong about the mindset of the affluent.

    You know your neighbor will screw you for $0.25 per hour, just imagine what they would do for $83.65 per hour.

    No need to imagine, that amount is roughly the salary in the congress.

    I hope everyone has a full length mirror in their home. Go have a look at what passes for nobility these days. Ask yourself “What was the dollar amount on my price tag?”

    very truly yours.
    a useless eater

    • Janos Skorenzy November 18, 2019 at 12:04 pm #

      There’s more to it: they get to tell others what to do. That is something many will kill for. The price is having bigger people tell them what to do. And so on. Middle Management is brutal because brutalized. Relative freedom (and less stress) is only found at the much higher and lower levels.

      • ellipsis November 18, 2019 at 12:44 pm #

        LOL! Both of the above posts are just so so true. Pink Floyd summed it up best on their 1976 Animals LP with their song Dogs:


        You gotta be crazy, you gotta have a real need
        You gotta sleep on your toes, and when you’re on the street
        You gotta be able to pick out the easy meat with your eyes closed
        And then moving in silently, down wind and out of sight
        You gotta strike when the moment is right without thinking

        And after a while, you can work on points for style
        Like the club tie, and the firm handshake
        A certain look in the eye and an easy smile
        You have to be trusted by the people that you lie to
        So that when they turn their backs on you,
        You’ll get the chance to put the knife in

        You gotta keep one eye looking over your shoulder
        You know it’s going to get harder, and harder, and harder as you get older
        And in the end you’ll pack up and fly down south
        Hide your head in the sand,
        Just another sad old man
        All alone and dying of cancer


        Of course the perks were a little better back in the day…

        • K-Dog November 18, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

          Here you go

          The animal farm cartoon background is interesting.

          • ellipsis November 18, 2019 at 3:06 pm #

            Oops, sorry! I forgot we had a pooch in our midst! No offense intended.

          • ellipsis November 18, 2019 at 3:07 pm #

            That’s a great video, by the way.

  23. JustSaying November 18, 2019 at 12:06 pm #

    Blowing smoke up our ass for three years! Love that expression.

  24. Htruth November 18, 2019 at 12:20 pm #

    Trump poisoned? https://youtu.be/zfoZ0_WFONA

  25. My Point of View November 18, 2019 at 1:02 pm #

    “Mr. Barr declared unambiguously and in plain English that “in waging a scorched earth, no-holds-barred war of ‘Resistance’ against this Administration, it is the Left that is engaged in the systematic shredding of norms and the undermining of the rule of law.”

    How ironic. For 8 years the GOP / McConnell, et al, waged a scorched earth, make him fail, no-holds-barred war of ‘Resistance’ against the Obama Administration. It is the Right that is engaged in the systematic shredding of norms and the undermining of the rule of law. But don’t let reality get in the way of the mass delusion that is the political and religious right in this country.

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    • Walter B November 18, 2019 at 1:42 pm #

      I don’t know about that MPV. I could have sworn that everyone, especially the media kissed his hairy ass. They even passed Obamacare and the media loved the crap out of that guy. That same media blames Donald J. Trump for everything from Global Warming to California wildfires, no joke.

      • My Point of View November 18, 2019 at 2:30 pm #

        I don’t know about that WB. I could have sworn that every racist, gun nutter, misogynist, and especially Fox “News” kisses Trump’s hairy fat ass. Trump puts kids in cages like a Nazi would and MAGA morons love the crap out of that guy.

        Seems we live in two realities.

        Media loved Obama because he wasn’t the idiot Bush.

        • B_NOLA November 18, 2019 at 3:37 pm #

          Obama built those cages.

        • BackRowHeckler November 18, 2019 at 3:59 pm #

          Take it up with Jose, MPoW

          Nobody invited ’em in.

          Thems the consequences.


        • Walter B November 18, 2019 at 4:57 pm #

          We do not have two realities, as only one reality can exist, by definition. We do, however, have two different views on reality. Fortunately, at least for now, the US Constitution allows for this to exist. The problems of immigration have always existed and neither Trump nor Obama changed anything really. What we ARE seeing now that is new unfortunately, is tens of thousands of these poor bastards being cut up and sold for their body parts. Perhaps the cages are the safest place to be:


          The UN even has a policy in place:


          Denying the existence of such practices may work for some, but I have attended seminars at my county level dealing with this and my son-in law has as well in the large urban city in which he is a cop.

          • seawolf77 November 18, 2019 at 6:16 pm #

            HRCC strikes again.

      • EvelynV November 19, 2019 at 2:26 am #

        Walter B

        As always, set up your straw man then tear it apart with your faulty logic. Nobody blames Trump for the things you claim.

        They blame him for his incompetence and corruption in dealing with those problems and the longterm consequences of what having a fool in charge of dealing with them is going to be.

        Maybe not for much longer hopefully. His unannounced visit to have a probe of his rotten innards, despite the usual lies oozing from him about why he returned to the hospital so soon, is likely to be exposed sooner than later. I’m guessing the truth of what that visit was about will be manifested as Melania begins to look increasingly more perky and less like a woman doomed to spend the rest of her life as the property of a fat, coarse, illiterate, unfaithful, slob of a man.

        Keep in mind I’m just expressing an opinion. For all we know he for once has told the truth and simply decided since he had free time he use it for a physical.

    • neon sky November 18, 2019 at 2:43 pm #

      What you’re saying I believe is that the Repugs were the teachers of the Dems. They did a good job of it, as we can see today. But the originator and grand wizard of the scorched earth policy was Newt.

    • Billy Hill November 18, 2019 at 5:11 pm #

      I will leave it to AG Barr to reply. Note: this is the paragraph following the paragraph our host has included in his post above. I have included the final sentence of that for context:

      “…instead of viewing themselves as the “loyal opposition,” as opposing parties have done in the past, they essentially see themselves as engaged in a war to cripple, by any means necessary, a duly elected government.

      A prime example of this is the Senate’s unprecedented abuse of the advice-and-consent process. The Senate is free to exercise that power to reject unqualified nominees, but that power was never intended to allow the Senate to systematically oppose and draw out the approval process for every appointee so as to prevent the President from building a functional government.

      Yet that is precisely what the Senate minority has done from his very first days in office. As of September of this year, the Senate had been forced to invoke cloture on 236 Trump nominees — each of those representing its own massive consumption of legislative time meant only to delay an inevitable confirmation. How many times was cloture invoked on nominees during President Obama’s first term? 17 times. The Second President Bush’s first term? Four times. It is reasonable to wonder whether a future President will actually be able to form a functioning administration if his or her party does not hold the Senate.

      • Billy Hill November 18, 2019 at 5:15 pm #

        Above was reply to MyPointofView.

        Somehow it ended up down here.

        Had I read your other post prior to sending the above I would not have bothered.

      • Majella November 18, 2019 at 8:35 pm #

        Have you seen just how many unqualified candidates for Federal Judgeships he’s put up?

        Take a look at this prime example:


        And then they get approval anyway (well, not THIS guy. He must have had a twinge of conscience and withdrew).

        “Trump managed to set a new record for the number of judicial nominees confirmed in a president’s first year. Trump had a huge structural advantage when he came into office to outpace previous regimes and his administration has quietly made the reshaping of the federal judiciary a top priority.”

        • BackRowHeckler November 18, 2019 at 8:49 pm #

          The only qualified candidates for federal judgeships are the ones appointed by Dem presidents– is that about the size of it?

          • Majella November 22, 2019 at 1:34 am #

            Unlike FFvCS, Obama nominated no one who was not endorsed by the ABA. THAT’S about the size of it.

        • Billy Hill November 18, 2019 at 8:52 pm #

          The Guardian?

          How about the Daily Kos? Or CNN?

          C’mon. We want inclusive perspectives.

    • Nightowl November 18, 2019 at 6:31 pm #

      Right vs. left = low IQ.

  26. BackRowHeckler November 18, 2019 at 3:55 pm #


    To cool the planet, to save humanity, to fight racism, colonialism and imperialism.

    Are you with us, or against us?

    Sign up on the XC website. And once signed up I don’t want to see any of you sonsabitches cheating. We will be watching.


    • ellipsis November 18, 2019 at 4:28 pm #

      I’ve always like the way the phrase ‘sonsabitches’ rolls off the tongue. I’m going to make a mental note and try to work it into my everyday vernacular more often.

  27. BackRowHeckler November 18, 2019 at 4:04 pm #

    Greta is headed for Spain, leaving the USA pretty much the way she found it when she arrived a few months ago, except ‘Hanoi’ Jane jumped on the XC bandwagon, getting arrested a bunch of times in DC and making a goddam fool of herself.

  28. Majella November 18, 2019 at 4:29 pm #

    “Facts” are, apparently, in the eye of the beholder. One person’s ‘courageous’ stand against an opposing force is another person’s ‘reason to impeach’:

    This from a review of Barr’s ’emotional’ tirade at the Federalist Society:

    “Another lunatic authoritarian speech as Barr goes from attacking ‘radical secularists ‘ [at Notre Dame Law School] to one month later attacking the ‘resistance’ at [the Federalist Society],” tweeted former White House ethics counsel Richard Painter. “Impeach Barr now!”

    “Bill Barr is the type of bare knuckles lawyer the Church would have hired thirty years ago to cover up sex abuse cases,” Painter added. “The bishop would have been someone like Rep. Jim Jordan. Neither of these men belong anywhere near the impeachment inquiry.”

    • Walter B November 18, 2019 at 5:11 pm #

      “Bill Barr is the type of bare knuckles lawyer the Church would have hired thirty years ago to cover up sex abuse cases,” Painter added.

      Would that anything like the people Hillary Clinton hired to assure of Jeff Epstein’s “suicide” in jail?

      • Majella November 18, 2019 at 5:29 pm #

        Walter, do you REALLY think that HRC hired LAWYERS to off Epstein?

        • Walter B November 18, 2019 at 6:16 pm #

          Not to do the dirty work, but after all,but in the end, they certainly do the cover up. Think Jim Comey.

          • Majella November 18, 2019 at 8:38 pm #

            Barr has said he was pissed off that Epstein was suicided, and that he will get to the bottom of it. Not much happening yet, as far as I can tell. It rates not a mention these days.

          • Walter B November 18, 2019 at 10:22 pm #

            You are correct, it will be blown off as they do with anything that goes against the grain.

          • benr November 19, 2019 at 10:34 am #

            Epstein was a problem for both sides as he had the dirt on everyone.

          • Sean Coleman November 20, 2019 at 10:26 am #

            Barr has said he was pissed off that Epstein was suicided, and that he will get to the bottom of it. Not much happening yet, as far as I can tell.”

            I will be surprised if anything develops as I strongly suspect that there is nothing there to get to the bottom of.

            These witch hunts are always media creations and always cut off from sanity. “RussiaGate” is a good example although it belongs in the subset of fake news rather than specifically the moral panics one.

            E Michael Jones is an acute observer but he gets carried away like most. He argues that Epstein was operating a blackmail ring (if I understand him correctly) because his house (I don’t know if this refers to the one on the island or his NY house) was wired for sound and cameras. Let’s just stop it there for a moment. How do we know the house was wired? I am not an investigator and find just turning on my computer a challenge in itself sometimes but I traced it back to one of two sisters, and of three women who were suing Epstein’s estate for more than $500 million.;

            Now my own reaction (a learnt one rather than instinctive) is not to believe this particular ‘fact’ (or most of the other established ‘facts’ which are notable – as always – by their scarcity and even more so by their vagueness). If anyone can point me in the direction of evidence for this claim I will be obliged.

          • Sean Coleman November 20, 2019 at 10:35 am #

            This article shows how the media operates in these cases.


            From the Daily Beast, a few days ago:

            “Lawyer Alan Dershowitz claims an email buried in a mountain of just-unsealed court documents proves that one of Jeffrey Epstein’s accusers lied when she said she was farmed out for sex with him as a teenager.”

            The email, dating from May 2011, was from a veteran Mail on Sunday journalist named Sharon Churcher, and it had been sent to Dershowitz’s accuser Virginia Roberts Giuffre a couple of months after Guiffre’s story of her time with Epstein had provided the basis for Churcher’s splash “Prince Andrew and the 17-year-old girl his sex offender friend flew to Britain to meet him“. Guiffre was attempting to put together a book, and she had emailed Churcher asking “if you have any information on you from when you and I were doing interviews about the J.E. story”, particularly as regards names of “pedo’s” (sic) “that J.E. sent me to”.

            Churcher’s reply:

            “Don’t forget Alan Dershowitz… J.E.’s buddy and lawyer…good name for your pitch as he repped Claus von Bulow and a movie was made about that case… title was Reversal of Fortune. We all suspect Alan is a pedo and tho no proof of that, you probably met him when he was hanging out with JE.”

            “You probably met him” indicates that this is a name that Churcher is speculatively proposing, rather than someone Guiffre had herself previously named to her. Even though this is Churcher providing informal advice rather than working on a new story, the implications of a journalist advising a source about whom they might derive benefit from accusing are troubling.”
            End of quote

            Churcher is, I believe, the journalist who broke the Prince Andrew ‘story’.

            People are free to believe this woman and her ilk just like they can believe, if they want to, the fools who write about “RussiaGate” in the NYT and the other newspapers. it is the same fantasy.

    • Billy Hill November 18, 2019 at 5:25 pm #

      Facts pertain to the hard sciences like math. All else is opinion.

      When the Supreme Court concludes deliberations it renders an opinion.

      Often there are dissenting opinions. This is where math comes in: 5 is greater than 4. That is a fact.

    • BackRowHeckler November 18, 2019 at 5:36 pm #

      Republicans in Congress seem to have closed ranks, appear to be holding together. I expect we’ll see Republicans in the Senate do the same.

      This faux impeachment isn’t going anywhere, a dog and pony show to keep ‘The Resistance’ mollified. I expect it to fizzle out sometime before Christmas, at which time Schiff and his haters will cook up some other bullsh#t slander to hang on the President, which will take them to next November. You can bank on that, ha!


      • fineline November 18, 2019 at 5:55 pm #

        Why wait till Christmas?
        Just show us the tax returns and/or let everybody testify that has been “ordered” not to and we can clear this up this afternoon.
        But be careful what you wish for. Once we have true transparency, then we will be punished with a Mike Pence presidency.

        • capt spaulding November 18, 2019 at 7:25 pm #

          The Supremes voted today to ” suspend indefinitely” the House’s subpoena of Trump’s tax returns. Kavanaugh & the boys will get their thanks at next week’s kegger.

          • BackRowHeckler November 18, 2019 at 8:15 pm #

            Why do you want to see the tax returns?

            The man’s been audited every year since 1980. And when he declared his candicacy he had to submit a detailed report of his finances to the treasury dept. If there was anything illegal you’d have known about it already. Of course Schiff and his staff of inquisitors might be able to sift thru returns from 25 years ago and find something illegal where no one else has, and launch a new impeachment effort. Besides, his backers don’t care about any tax returns. I say keep them private, if nothing else to give you haters something else to complain about.

            Buzzi Ginsberg will be dropping out before winter is over, giving Trump one more Supreme Court pick. How sweet is that?


          • Walter B November 19, 2019 at 10:02 am #

            BRH, I think that most people have someone else prepare their taxes for them and have no idea what information a tax return actually contains. It has no information on assets, transactions, or any other dealing that might be interesting to look at. It is strictly income and as such has very little value, unless, of course, you are clueless. The vast majority of Americans can not even balance their checkbooks, much less understand a tax return. Besides, the Lefty Loonies don’t need any data in the first place since they can simply make it up by themselves, right?

          • capt spaulding November 19, 2019 at 12:59 pm #

            I want to see his tax returns because he doesn’t want me to see his tax returns.

          • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 2:03 pm #

            A better question is why does Trump not want me to see his tax returns?

          • benr November 20, 2019 at 2:37 pm #

            November 19, 2019 at 2:03 pm #

            A better question is why does Trump not want me to see his tax returns?



          • Majella November 21, 2019 at 4:24 am #


            I’m not so sure about that (though you’re right about general financial ignorance).

            A tax return is submitted based on a set of accounts, which includes not only a statement of profit & loss but also a balance sheet outlining assets & liabilities.

            In FFvCS’s case, there’s likely to be a heap of ‘carried interest’ income from which it’s possible to confirm by extrapolation his (at least disclosed) asset base.

            If he’s not ‘really rich’ as he claims, surely the deluded Trumpistas like benr are entitled to know that? Whether or not it makes any difference to them, I can’t say. However, I suspect Trump thinks it might -hence the secrecy.

          • seawolf77 November 21, 2019 at 11:46 am #

            Baloney. We have the right to see Trump’s tax returns because we need to know who he is financially beholden to. We also need to see his asset and liability sheets. If President X owns 10,000,000 shares of Microsoft and his first move after being sworn in is to ban Linux and Apple and replace with Microsoft products, we deserve to know why. He can’t just say its better. We have a fiduciary right to know if his decisions benefit him personally.

    • Nightowl November 18, 2019 at 6:13 pm #

      Maj in the red zone again.

      So much emotion, so little thought.

      • Majella November 21, 2019 at 4:27 am #

        Yep. Time of the month.

        Get a new line, why don’t you?

        And, oh! I’m dying to hear how Sondland’s testimony didn’t mean anything, or that’s he’s a lying POS or whatever other sophistry you can come up with to explain it away.

        • Nightowl November 21, 2019 at 5:25 am #


          You can just watch it. I have posted vids of all the witnesses confirming the President’s account.

          Your mind is weak.

          • Nightowl November 21, 2019 at 8:12 am #

            And for added insult to injury:

            Here is Sondland specifically clarifying the point in direct relation to the Fake News headlines you consume.


            It’s over, muffin.

          • Majella November 21, 2019 at 7:16 pm #

            Yet another cherry-picked moment, and presented out of context.

            Your Twitter-based defense of the GOP Defense has been patchy and unconvincing. If any of these ‘gotcha!’ moments amounted to anything in context, you’d be correct and the case would fail. But they’re out of context and have no traction.

            Too bad. Sorry.

          • Majella November 22, 2019 at 1:37 am #

            *tumbleweeds* now !

          • Nightowl November 22, 2019 at 9:22 am #

            Rekt again.

    • cc rider November 18, 2019 at 7:04 pm #

      I listened to the whole speech and it was definitely not emotional, nor was it a tirade.

      Richard Painter is a childish little fuckwit. No surprise that you quote such a dimwit.

      • Majella November 18, 2019 at 8:40 pm #

        Just quoting another perspective. I don’t know the guy, but his pedigree in law & ethics is not exactly sparse or impeached.

  29. BackRowHeckler November 18, 2019 at 4:34 pm #


    This is only Day 1 of the Hunger Strike.

    Wait until Day 4 and 5 roll around, you’ll be ready to eat your shoes.

    And you Hunger Strikers might be having a positive affect, right now it’s only 38°F and a cold hard rain is falling, ha!

    Good day to stay inside, bank up a nice fire in the woodstove, and dig into a nice hot bowl of beef stew. Except you can’t, you’re on a hunger strike, too bad.


    • Nightowl November 18, 2019 at 5:44 pm #

      The stupidity is unreal.

      • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 6:56 am #

        No. It’s very real. Wake up and smell the orange cotton candy. It ain’t no concrete, that I can tell you.

  30. fineline November 18, 2019 at 5:37 pm #

    The GOP, aided and abetted by the Supreme Court that they had carefully chosen, stole an election in plain sight in 2000 and so doing undermined the constitution.
    This country has been going south ever since.
    They have systematically undermined every every regulation and function that they see as a threat to their iron grip on power. When Obama got under their radar, they agreed not to cooperate with him at any level. In the meantime, Barr, the son of a CIA guy and participant in the gun running scheme through Arkansas in the Iran Contra scandal has boasted that he can make any legal document including the Constitution say and mean whatever his masters want it to mean.
    Look what he did with the Mueller report

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    • Majella November 18, 2019 at 5:47 pm #

      Well said, fineline.

      There’s also his connection to Epstein (via his father). Surely he should be going after the truth of THAT particular dead rat of a problem?

    • Nightowl November 19, 2019 at 4:54 am #

      A series of unverified claims (though I do agree that voting machines were likely hacked in 2000. This has probably occured in every election).

      “Look what he did with the Mueller report”

      Please expand, and be sure to back your claims.

      • fineline November 20, 2019 at 11:06 am #

        nightowl, the info is out there. Do your research. Mint Press has been spearheading a lot of this.
        As far as the Mueller report, you need to simply compare what Barr said it says and what it actually says. Mueller himself chimed in to say that the report was being twisted by Barr.

        Im not certain machines played a big part in 2000.
        There was the Miami ballot that programmed the voter to mis-mark the ballot for Buchanan instead of Gore. There were the hanging chads that Gore voters did not fully punch out and there is the fact that they simply did not count the votes due to a Supreme Court decision to stop the count. Whatever happened to states rights?

        There were also the police roadblocks that kept some likely Gore voters from the polls. wonder who the Governor was?

        Any honest appraisal of voters intent in Florida would have made Gore the President

        • Nightowl November 20, 2019 at 4:04 pm #

          The way it works is that you verify the claims you just made with concrete evidence.

          The burden of proof is on you.

          • Majella November 21, 2019 at 4:32 am #

            Oh? A rule you apply only to those whose perspective doesn’t align with your quasi-fascist POV.

            Anyone on your side of the argument can post any horseshit unchallenged. Hypocritical, much?

          • benr November 22, 2019 at 9:29 am #


            Speaking of horseshit everything you post is exactly conspiracy theory unproven and fact less a charge you routinely level on anyone not in lockstep with your Communist view of the world.

            Face fact what ever news source you listen to is playing you for a fool as most everything they say is a bombshell on Trump turns out to be a dud or worse not the truth.

            Try on this mantra four more years then we will see the real Trump revealed.
            Kind of like the open mic event with Obama and having more flexibility after the election to collude with the Russians.

        • Majella November 21, 2019 at 4:30 am #


          Don’t bother. This twat has latched onto a particular troll line he deploys every third post or so. He knows exactly what the evidence is. He’s being deliberately obtuse.

          • Nightowl November 21, 2019 at 4:56 am #

            I would not recommend taking the Maj approach. It only ends in tears.

            Provide concrete evidence for your claim. Or be ridiculed every time you post it.

          • Majella November 21, 2019 at 7:17 pm #

            Get a new schtick, nightowl. You’ve already got beyond predictably boring.

          • benr November 22, 2019 at 9:31 am #


            Pisses you off when someone does to you what you always do.

            How about you post some real world truthiness instead of tired gotcha propaganda?

  31. axisboldaslove November 18, 2019 at 6:11 pm #

    Wow- total Right Wing Rant Monday! Y’all feel better getting all that vitriol off your chest?


    “Mr. Barr declared unambiguously and in plain English that “in waging a scorched earth, no-holds-barred war of ‘Resistance’ against this Administration, it is the Left that is engaged in the systematic shredding of norms and the undermining of the rule of law.” Is any part of that unclear?”

    Very clear James. But how true is it? Is it true because Barr said so? Why wouldn’t he- being at war so to speak with the Democratic party- say something like this? Are we now taking anyone in Trumps’ circle at face value. Seems like.


    And, oh, posters here piling on Greta Thunberg. How bold and tough is that?! Sheesh.

    • capt spaulding November 18, 2019 at 7:31 pm #

      Those autistic little 16 year old bitches are mean as hell, axis. These guys need all the help they can get. ” Another round of testosterone for the house, bartender, I feel a lynchin’ comin’ on”.

    • redrock November 18, 2019 at 8:49 pm #

      After your self administered Sigmoidoscope try breathing a little air to let your head clear. If Barr doe’s not or can not bring the traitors to justice better have an ammunition supply in liberal land.

      • capt spaulding November 19, 2019 at 1:09 pm #

        After you get those red rocks out of your head, try spelling doe’s not the proper way (doesn’t). You spell like you were edumicated in one of them there red states, Alabama, maybe?

        • RocketDoc November 19, 2019 at 5:14 pm #

          Be careful disparaging my State. I might be the only Alabamian on this thread and I have more education than you. But I’m no Trumpster either. Life is very good at the moment in the Rocket City–defense, missiles, drones and security. We’re enjoying the ride that everyone else has already had….

          • capt spaulding November 19, 2019 at 8:09 pm #

            My apologies Doc. Feel free to insult my state if you like. I live in Minnesota, which is largely Scandanavian, and cold. Actually it’s cold enough up here, that we don’t even use gravestones. We just bury everybody with their heads sticking up out of the ground.

        • Majella November 22, 2019 at 1:39 am #

          ‘Them THAR red states’

  32. Majella November 18, 2019 at 6:13 pm #

    What’s this I hear? That FFvCS ‘may testify’ in the Impeachment Trial?

    That sort of blows up Nunes’ & Jordan’s strategy of delegitimizing the proceedings. With any luck, no-one in the White House – or Lindsay Graham – can talk him out of it!

    Still, he was always going to release this tax returns…don’t hold your breath.

    • benr November 19, 2019 at 11:38 am #

      The art of the troll as written by the tangerine tornado himself.

      Just another stab at making DemocRATS and their useful idiot supporters heads explode.

      • Majella November 21, 2019 at 7:25 pm #

        Translated – ‘just another bullshit statement from FFvCS, lacking in any substance and highly unlikely to ever actually happen’.

        Sort of like the way he stiffed the Veterans’ he promised money from his ‘Foundation’ to, and how he stiffs city after city where he holds his Hillbilly Rallies for the costs involved.

        Then there’s Palm Beach municipality, where Mar-a-Lago is sited, for which (besides the US taxpayer shelling out $1m per day he’s there) has racked up $3.8 million in unreimbursed expenses for security etc.


        • benr November 22, 2019 at 9:39 am #

          Yep and IF we started looking at the cost of Obama and his security?
          How about the fact his wife usually flew in Airforce 2 with her possy of 40 something staff?

          I do remember a few cities and towns getting pissed when Obama showed up and shut the town down and bankrupted the city treasury.
          Of course as far as your short memory goes that was just fine because you liked Obama and hate Trump right?

          I like how angry you are over your President doing his job and making America great again and that includes rolling back as much of Obamas crappy policy as possible.

          Trump has set the regressive progressive movement back 20 years and if Ruthie croaks will fundamentally change the Supreme court for at least twenty years.

          So all the judicial tyranny can be reversed because what one court ruled as legal another can look at and go nope that ruling was not right!

          Oh how Democrat heads will explode.
          Bye bye Rowe V Wade some serious limitations on abortion on demand are coming.

          Obama care will be tossed out as well.

          That Republican list of grievances is pretty damn long.

  33. Nightowl November 18, 2019 at 6:27 pm #

    A familiar story.

    • seawolf77 November 20, 2019 at 8:50 am #

      You’re enamored with that phrase. Why? It’s not the least bit interesting.

  34. Majella November 18, 2019 at 6:34 pm #

    Governor Bel Edwards: “To the President….bless his heart.”

    Wow! That is well-known code!

    • Majella November 18, 2019 at 6:37 pm #

      How did Trump lose Louisiana?


      • SoftStarLight November 19, 2019 at 1:38 am #

        And bless your heart too sweet pea. A few details you missed. Edwards only won by 1.4%. Last time he won by 12%. And Republicans won enough seats in the Senate to form a super majority. Republicans picked up seats in the House and are 2 shy from being a super majority there. All other statewide offices were won by Republicans. So your victory celebration is pyrrhic. And Edwards is far more of a Republican than any Republican you personally know. Not that any of that impresses me but since you asked.

        • BackRowHeckler November 19, 2019 at 2:58 am #

          Not to mention some of Eswards policies are to the right of a few Republicans.

          • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 6:30 am #

            He won because he’s really one of us. Louisiana logic at its finest. Next they’ll be saying we lost because we’re one of them. Uncle Boo Boo Bob will figure it out, like he does with the concrete Nightowl. Hooo hooo! Concrete! Concrete! Concrete!

        • Majella November 19, 2019 at 6:07 am #

          The point is that FFvCS’s campaigning for the R candidate was an abysmal failure.

          For Trump to stand up and call Bel Edwards a ‘radical left wing socialist’ shows how little he knows about him – what a fool. Clearly, Louisianans can smell bullshit, especially when it’s laid on with a trowel like that.

          For Trump to virtually BEG the crowd to not ‘embarrass’ him by electing the Dem candidate and then losing sort of underlines how toxic he’s becoming as an Endorsement,

          • SoftStarLight November 19, 2019 at 9:43 am #

            I don’t like John Bel Edwards. I did not vote for him. But many tax payer funded buses were used to bring community members to the polls. I am also sure many dead people and foreigners voted too.

          • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 9:49 am #

            You usually beat a whoremonger by a wider margin than you do a businessman.

          • Majella November 21, 2019 at 7:30 pm #


            “Community Members” = blacks. We know how much you admire & respect blacks, SSL.

            “Tax-payer funded buses” = communism, fraud, corruption.

            Before any black taxpayer could get on a bus, s/he would have to swear to vote for Bel Edwards…is THAT what you’re saying here SSL?

  35. cc rider November 18, 2019 at 7:01 pm #

    Someone who posts on another site’s comment section said something insightful a few days ago, and that is one reason why the Dems are impeaching Trump is so that they can then say that he shouldn’t be able to nominate another Supreme Justice in 2020. That he would be “disqualified” in other words. Then they’ll gamble on him losing in November.

    I think that there’s a decent chance that this is a real strategy from the left. After all they know that the Senate will not convict and remove him, so why do this? They know that Ruthie is not long for this world. The thought of a 6 to 3 conservative majority fills them with the urge to defecate.

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    • capt spaulding November 18, 2019 at 7:36 pm #

      Leave it all up to Mitch, he’ll figure out something. After all, “The end justifies the means” right?

      • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 6:55 am #

        With that face, the end justifies anything you want.

    • redrock November 18, 2019 at 8:43 pm #

      Ruthie died weeks ago. She was freeze dried and continues to serve.

      • malthuss November 18, 2019 at 11:39 pm #

        weeks? some think a year or 2 ago.

  36. Walter B November 18, 2019 at 8:37 pm #

    Anyone that is seriously interested in recalling the history of the fall of the Berlin Wall, the beginning of the Ukraine/NATO buildup and exactly WTF has been going on should watch this podcast:


    It is good to revive the memories of what really happened and not simply believe the horseshit shoveled into our brains by the sellouts in what they call the media.

  37. redrock November 18, 2019 at 8:40 pm #

    If Mr. Barr fails it will be time for the 6.5 Mannlicher Carrcano.

    • stelmosfire November 18, 2019 at 8:59 pm #

      Naw, nowadays it would be something in a 6.5 creedmore.

  38. sunburstsoldier November 18, 2019 at 9:35 pm #

    It’s philosophy hour boys and girls, here’s my contribution for the day:

    Hellenism (reason, science, Humanism) and Hebraism (faith, religion, Monotheism) are the twin pillars of Western Civilization. Although these two pillars appear on the surface to conflict with one another, or represent opposing worldviews, in reality they are complementary and constitute two sides of a single whole signifying the harmonization of the finite and the infinite. There is no reason why, other than the individual human’s limited perspective (and the parochial bias this perspective tends to engender), both pillars cannot be upheld simultaneously and permitted to enrich one another. If such a course had been taken, Hellenic Civilization (in the form of the Roman Empire) could have been saved and the northern Germanic tribes as well as the Far East (and India) could have peacefully integrated with it. Then we would have seen a world of diverse cultures, ethnicities, and ways of life maintained in outward harmony through an inner Unity. This I submit was long-term mission of Jesus Christ, although unfortunately aborted due to his crucifixion at the hands of his own people, i.e., the religious and civic leadership of Israel.

    • SoftStarLight November 19, 2019 at 1:27 am #

      Ah, but that was never meant to be. Mankind rejected having diverse cultures and races side by side (separate, but in harmony) long, long ago. In fact, that was in Genesis. Since then human history has been one long, sordid, bloody, and violent saga of peoples fighting, mixing, living in peace, mixing, fighting, etc. That is human nature and its not going to be transcended in this plain of existence. It can only be mitigated and cajoled toward awakening and enlightenment.

      Christ did not come for Woodstock. Matthew 10:33-34

      But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

      • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 2:53 am #

        Personally SSL, I am a firm believer in a Divine Providence operating behind the scenes of human history, and that, despite all the outward chaos and confusion we see about us, as a species we are trending slowly and inexorably (and despite constant setbacks) towards an ‘ideal world’. Thus I am always optimistic and willing to stand for Idealism, even though for many such an approach seems highly naive and starry-eyed…

        • SoftStarLight November 19, 2019 at 9:38 am #

          Well, I do understand. After all, if you were simply trying to practice conventional Christianity you would appear to be an Idealist to those around you, including the naivety and starry eyed part too. I believe as well that the Divine is in and behind all things whether we See or Understand. My point is just that the Idealism must be tempered with the realities of our existence and the limitations thereof. In reality people only have so much capacity for care and concern. That has to be put forward to the immediate families, neighborhoods, etc. Much Idealism could be realized if humans would simply do a better job of living within their bounds, means, locales, and native people groups. But pursuing high Ideals is good as long as it does not present a stumbling block to you.

          • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 10:43 am #

            Sure SSL. It’s kind of like a set of Chinese boxes nestled inside one another. The outermost box is the world (Buckminster Fuller’s ‘spaceship earth’), then the region, neighborhood, and family. Since all levels are interconnected and constitute a comprehensive whole, we should strive to operate on all levels more or less in tandem. It sounds difficult but it is really a matter of having the right methodology in our approach to life…

    • axisboldaslove November 19, 2019 at 2:04 am #

      This is great stuff, sunburst soldier.

      What you said reminds me of some of what I read in Mark Sundeen’s book about Daniel Suelo, The Man Who Quit money. A whole other way of life. Some of my views on life were altered a bit in good ways in reading that book. It has unusual ideas that appeal to me.

      • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 2:55 am #

        I’ll look into it axis. Thanks.

  39. Pucker November 18, 2019 at 9:41 pm #

    What do you think of the “Magic Bullet” in the Kennedy Assassination? They’ve named one of those high speed vegetable weight loss electric mixers the “Magic Bullet”. My boss has one in his House in the US. Every time I use it to make avocado and yogurt smoothies, I am reminded of the Kennedy Assassination, the anniversary of which is coming up this week (November 22?1963). A couple of years ago I brought back a Magic Bullet to Hong Kong. It burned up when I turned it on since HK uses 220 volts.

    Jim Garrison


    • K-Dog November 18, 2019 at 10:41 pm #

      Get a new “Magic Bullet” and mix up a few bean sprouts into a nice smoothie with some properly cured cannabis bud.

      Add some vodka, serve it up, and call it ‘the grassy knoll’.

      • elysianfield November 19, 2019 at 11:50 am #

        ” mix up a few bean sprouts into a nice smoothie with some properly cured cannabis bud.

        Add some vodka, serve it up, and call it ‘the grassy knoll’.”

        How about substituting oregano for the cannabis, and near-beer for the vodka, and calling it the “Lee Harvey Oswald”…?

    • K-Dog November 18, 2019 at 10:59 pm #

      And regarding your excellent video.

      When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. – Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

  40. fineline November 18, 2019 at 11:46 pm #

    You got to know, JHK, that this is not a criminal trial. A sitting president cannot be indicted and he is charged with no crime. Impeachment and removal from office does not carry a conviction and criminal record.
    Impeachment and removal can just be that the president, a perversion of the electoral college and not the peoples choiceis just so obnoxious and repulsive that he needs to be fired. He would understand.

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  41. wpa_ccc November 19, 2019 at 12:21 am #

    Sunburstsoldier said: “Hellenism (reason, science, Humanism) and Hebraism (faith, religion, Monotheism) are the twin pillars of Western Civilization.”

    Actually, western civilization has four pillars:
    1) Palestinian (“Jerusalem”);
    2) Greek (“Athens”);
    3) Roman (“Rome”);
    4) Egyptian (“Alexandria”)

    From the Palestinian component “Jerusalem” we get faith in a personal God, revelation, righteousness, and covenant community

    From the Greek component “Athens” we get faith in reason, faith in living up to ideals, faith in human worth, faith in skeptical reason

    From the Roman component “Rome” we get cooperation, pragmatism, universalism.

    What is missing from most discussion of western civilization is the Egyptian component, “Alexandria,” from which we get the mystical model. The mystical model has tenets like Supreme Identity, Universe as Great Chain of Being, and the Doctrine of Adequatio. Gnosticism, the Hermetic tradition, Neo-Platonism — “the underground reality tradition in the west”– represents this neglected Egyptian strand of western culture.

    Just sayin.

    • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 12:51 am #

      That’s sounds good to me.

      • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 1:14 am #

        Palestinian/Egyptian (representative of the East) and Greek/Roman (representative of the West) roughly parallels my two pillars. Of course my approach is not a scholarly one (as I am not a scholar), but more ideological in orientation. The point I am trying to stress is the importance of harmonizing these varied approaches to life rather than discounting one in favor of another other. The primary polar tension in Western Civilization, at least as I see it, is between Humanism and Monotheism. Yet this need not be. Both are essential if we are to grasp the wholeness of life…

    • SoftStarLight November 19, 2019 at 1:10 am #

      Western Civilization lacks pride, dedication to heritage and tradition, and any unique identitarian outlook for native Westerners and is thus becoming what Latin is to Language. Dead. Western Civilization is poised to lose all extant peoples who are actually “Western” within the next 100 years are so. Beyond that, only the pieces and parts of Western Civilization that other cultures can adapt and build on will exist in some form or forms. Otherwise, ashes to ashes dust to dust. Most of Western Civilization will likely be rejected. Cultures are like people. They become diseased and sometimes require quarantine to that others may survive.

      • axisboldaslove November 19, 2019 at 2:11 am #

        You do know, SoftStarLight, that despite what is lost of western civilization, three pillars of western greatness will stand: Blues, Jazz, and Rock & Roll. 😀

        • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 2:36 am #

          What about classical?

          • axisboldaslove November 19, 2019 at 12:02 pm #

            Good point, sunburstsoldier. My egregious omission!

        • SoftStarLight November 19, 2019 at 9:21 am #

          Unfortunately I believe Rap is the only thing Western Civilization has going for it now. Not that I like that. But I am afraid Rap and thug life culture is the only thing the world really knows about the West anymore.

    • BackRowHeckler November 19, 2019 at 2:55 am #

      Too bad the Muslims burned down the library in Alexandria, where the great books of the Classical western world were stored.

      At MIT a librarian — Chinese heritage — stated recently that books in the stacks written by whites … should be removed and destroyed.

      See the similarity?


      • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 3:15 am #

        Of course that is totally ridiculous. The bulk of the knowledge I have acquired concerning life and reality comes from the words of ‘dead white men’. This may not be politically correct, but it is nonetheless true…

  42. malthuss November 19, 2019 at 12:22 am #

    Buttgeigs former bed mate arrested


  43. kulturcritic November 19, 2019 at 12:34 am #

    James… I cannot believe you are either stupid or naive. So please stop defending the GGG. It is disgusting!!! Your loyal opposition – S Krolick

    • K-Dog November 19, 2019 at 1:35 am #

      Loyal opposition.Woof to that!

      Say it ain’t so.

      I hope this has nothing to do with it. But…… it is a fair question.

      • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 9:44 am #

        You know how you catch a monkey. You put a piece of sweet fruit at the bottom of a heavy gourd that has a narrow neck. The monkey reaches in and grabs the fruit and try as he may he can’t pull his closed hand out of the gourd. Then as you approach to capture him he yells and screams and throws the ugliest hissy fit ever. He could get away, if he just let go of the fruit. But he won’t and so he is caught.

        • benr November 19, 2019 at 10:37 am #

          What did they do to you when they caught you?

        • elysianfield November 19, 2019 at 11:53 am #

          …Softly, softly catchee monkey….

          • benr November 19, 2019 at 12:28 pm #

            that made me chuckle thank you.

          • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 2:01 pm #

            Let go of the fruitcake. You’ll thank me in the morning.

        • K-Dog November 19, 2019 at 5:01 pm #

          I see your point. And not only was it a fair question, it turned out with the monkey business to be an Entertaining Question too!

  44. SoftStarLight November 19, 2019 at 12:53 am #

    Of all the things a society could expend its resources and precious time on and this is it? Our current form of governance is a vestige of a more harmonious and simple yet genteel past. Today’s Left uses and manipulates our form of government to literally take control of every aspect of our lives and being in its onward, enthusiastic march to global tyranny. The Right uses and manipulates our form of government to maximize profits and wealth for the haves and the cans at the entire expense of national wellbeing and sovereignty. And there is no center. Because we are all so diverse, we are all so different, that golly gee, we just never see eye to eye. As if that wasn’t planned! I wonder if our annual invasion quotas touch on political diversity? How else can this be seen other than the government that is supposed to be of the people, for the people, and by the people is clearly bought and paid for by enemies both foreign and domestic. Until that is fixed, if ever, nothing is going to change. I doubt the CIA and FBI are afraid of any government official. Their all rogue and thus we might only be few steps from anarchy altogether.

    • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 1:21 am #

      Great, insightful post SSL!

      Do you think it would be possible to have a ‘True Center’ Third Party, or would it simply be viewed as not ‘left’ enough for those left of center, and not ‘right’ enough for those right of center?

      • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 1:37 am #

        The point you make about loss of center is key. Without a center, as Yeats famously stated in his poem ‘The Second Coming’, “things fall apart…mere anarchy is loosed upon the world”…

      • SoftStarLight November 19, 2019 at 1:45 am #

        IMO a polity would need to be relatively uniform and homogenous to have a real center. From everything I’ve read, America used to have a real center in the mid 20th century. That was when the country was 90% White and the middle and working classes were the largest and the two extremes of greath wealth and great poverty were rarer. I don’t believe a center is possible now. On a smaller, regional scale it may be possible.

        • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 2:34 am #

          Perhaps the trend towards regionalism is providential. With a background in regional planning I have learned that the ‘urban region’ serves as a primary integrative unit between the human-built environment and the natural world. Government at this level is less prone to corruption for the obvious reason that it is closer to the people it serves.

          • BackRowHeckler November 19, 2019 at 2:48 am #

            I think you stated you were in the Detroit area?

            Has there not been plenty of corruption in Detroit and nearby cities like Flint, Michigan?

            The New Urbanism you and JHK are advocates of … any improvements thru expert planning you could make in cities like Chicago, LA or San Fran are rendered moot by tens of thousands of people living on the streets spreading diseases, rampant crime that goes unpunished, and, in Chicago’s case, 50 people gunned down every weekend. How do yo make plans around that? Its hopeless.


          • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 3:05 am #

            If we don’t uphold a vision of an ideal or optimal society, rooted sustainably within the natural world, despite outward conditions to the contrary Brh, then we are as good as lost. One of the characteristics of a Dark Age is the deterioration of skills, techniques, and ways of doing and seeing developed when civilization was a ‘going concern’…

          • BackRowHeckler November 19, 2019 at 3:46 am #

            Good answer, my friend.

            I admire the earnest, serious and hopeful manner in which you approach the issues discussed on this board.

          • tucsonspur November 19, 2019 at 3:57 am #

            “… that the ‘urban region’ serves as a primary integrative unit between the human-built environment and the natural world.”

            Right, massive pollution and traffic congestion, overcrowding, asphalt, concrete and steel, lights erasing the nighttime stars, all amidst a mind numbing cacophony. This really blends well with the bucolic. It Disintegrates the natural.

            One can certainly argue that the ‘urban region’ is part of the natural world if you broaden the definition of natural. Just like they use ‘natural’ on food labels.

            Isn’t NYC an ‘urban region’? Is it less prone to corruption?

          • tucsonspur November 19, 2019 at 4:06 am #

            Too much Panglossian palaver. Not good, considering what’s coming.

          • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 9:05 am #

            What you are talking about is bad regional planning tucsonspur, something rife throughout the world. The way to heal this is through good planning, which is to say RECREATING an urban framework that integrates with nature. Easy to do? Not even. One reason I have taken my focus away from the ‘New Urbanism’ movement is it eventually became clear nothing positive in this direction is gonna happen until people themselves change. Then I had a powerful ‘religious experience’ (for lack of a better word) in the late 90s which led me towards spirituality, or the possibility of an individual experiencing an Awakening (permanent shift to ‘higher’ consciousness). In my search I discovered Ekhart Tolle, a modern day bodhisattva, and have been striving to integrate his teaching with my background in regional planning, as well as a holistic approach to life I acquired through an apprenticeship served in the early 70s under a brilliant and eccentric genius by the name of Norman Miller.

          • SoftStarLight November 19, 2019 at 9:10 am #

            SBS, I believe that your instinct re regionalism being closer to “godliness?” is accurate and on point. I personally think that we humans are social creatures and need to gather in collectives and communities. Despite the common Western belief that the individual is supreme (a belief I know you don’t share in nor do I), the community, village, city, etc., actually provides the structure that humans need. However, as Mr. K has often pointed out, there comes a point in which there are diminishing returns to complexity and hyper structure. So it seems that there is a fine balance between organization, complexity, and the collective versus the individual, and less organization and complexity. Ultimately, I am with you in that I believe our future will involve smaller and less complex levels of social structure and organization. This will be of necessity and because smaller systems will be much more responsive to the immediate needs of the people within those systems.

          • SoftStarLight November 19, 2019 at 9:16 am #

            I do agree with Brh and Tucsonspur that our modern Western cities suffer from far too much blight, pollution, poor planning, crime, etc. They are of course all much too large in scale and far too diverse in population to be sustainable in the long run. A very large city of the future, post-collapse in my estimation would be a city/region with 100,000 people. That is nothing in today’s time. And I am imagining 100,000 people that have essentially the same background and culture. I believe in that sort of environment and society you may have an opportunity for less corruption and much more accountability for those who are in charge.

        • K-Dog November 19, 2019 at 10:49 am #

          Do you want your city on a hill?

          • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 3:02 pm #

            There was a time when that would have been a straightforward question deserving a straightforward answer. In our present political and social circumstances however it can easily be perceived as a loaded question. It can, for instance, be used as an argument for open borders which I don’t favor…

  45. sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 1:43 am #

    Here’s a bit of political humor from Townhall:

    Something amazing happened on Monday night. And it’s not your usual run-of-the-mill political news. During an interview with MSNBC’s Chris Matthews, Rep. Eric Swalwell (D-CA) appeared to rip a massive fart live on the air.

    BuzzFeed News reporter Addy Baird sent a text to the Congressman to ask him to confirm or deny whether or not it was actually him who passed gas. Of course, Swalwell said he didn’t do it.

    But people were determined to get to the bottom of what really took place.

    So much so that gifs were created to slow down the moment in time the fart was delt.

    Donald Trump Jr. took a swipe at Swalwell, saying the fart was the “most intelligible thing to come out of Swalwell in years.” He then dubbed the moment Fartgate (which is now a Twitter hashtag).

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      • tucsonspur November 19, 2019 at 4:08 am #

        Speak again, O toothless one!

        • Nightowl November 19, 2019 at 4:19 am #

          The pause after he lets it rip is the best.

          • ellipsis November 19, 2019 at 5:52 am #

            Priceless! He should have just went with the moment and laughed out loud. Now he looks even more stupid.

          • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 7:07 am #

            aNAL rEPUBLICANS. Isn’t that an oxymoron.

          • Nightowl November 19, 2019 at 8:42 am #

            He’s now trying to claim it was a mug dragged across the table.

            Comedy gold.

          • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 10:21 am #

            Unfortunately I’m too deaf to appreciate it. A good fart at the wrong place and time has been known to ruin careers. There’s a story about one of Queen Elizabeth’s (16th century) favorite courtiers, who, when kneeling down to honor her, ripped the mother of all farts. He was so embarrassed he left the country for something like twenty years…when he finally returned and stood before her once again she gently chided him for his long absence…

          • ellipsis November 19, 2019 at 10:23 am #

            I could possibly buy the “butt smooching on a leather chair” defense, but “mug on the table” ain’t gonna cut it. That was clearly a well formed pocket of flatus looking for an escape hatch. Hey! Nature calls and we listen, in this case both literally and figuratively!

  46. seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 7:53 am #

    “This guy is the worst negotiator ever.” Scarborough Joe. Even Kim Jung Un is laughing at him.

    • SoftStarLight November 19, 2019 at 9:01 am #

      Joe and Mika are both such drama queens. And they do each others makeup right before going on air. Didn’t they talk about how horrible Trump was because he was attempting to have discussions with Pan Face, I mean Kim? And now what, are they laughing at Trump because Kim is laughing at him? Jeeze, those girls need to get their own lives really bad!

      • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 9:10 am #

        “The world is laughing at us.” Donald Trump.
        You got to admit- when you’re right, you’re right.

        • SoftStarLight November 19, 2019 at 9:17 am #

          Well they are laughing at us because we are super silly, Silly.

          • Nightowl November 19, 2019 at 9:25 am #

            If you want a laugh, google Joe Scarborough and “Stand.”

            One of the saddest things you may ever watch.

            And by sad I mean hilarious.

            It’s too bad Pepsi didn’t use it in their multimillion dollar McResist ad with Kendall Jenner.

          • SoftStarLight November 19, 2019 at 9:48 am #

            I will have to check that out Nightowl. Thank you for the recommendation!

          • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 10:06 am #

            Forget about checking that out. Instead say “super silly, Silly” five times fast.

      • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 9:16 am #

        Joe and Mika used to like Trump and would invite him on their show. I don’t know what happened that turned them against him but it’s more than policy differences. They both now have some personal animus towards him which prevents them from seeing things objectively…

        • capt spaulding November 19, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

          I heard that he made a grab for Mika’s pussy.

          • Majella November 19, 2019 at 5:36 pm #

            Recall Trump telling a story of how he ‘turned them away’ from a New Year’s Eve party at Mar-a-Lago, how Mika was crying, looking really choppy post-surgery (yet another face-lift, he claimed) and how they were ‘begging’ to be allowed in?

            Perhaps that was (gasp!) true..? and that’s why they’re so dark on him? Nahhhh…can’t be. FFvCS doesn’t ever tell the truth. Ever.

          • cc rider November 20, 2019 at 1:24 pm #

            Not even Trump wants to touch that nasty thing

    • benr November 19, 2019 at 9:11 am #

      I don’t know there is an awful and I do mean awful lot of people that did far worse.

      Well lets take your shiny penny Obama for just one moment.

      Handed over Billions of dollars seized from Iran and got NOTHING for it.
      The Shia terror machine got a nice infusion from that return good job Obama.

      That right there puts Obama at the top of the garbage heap of negotiators and gaffs.
      I know I know how dare I point out your god and savior is really a horrible negotiator a terrible off the cuff public speaker and all around worst President in history kind of guy.

      Even NPR said Obama had zero spine.


      Or how about this wonderful gaff?


      And they say Trump is a Russian asset?
      How about telling the opposition party they can come along for the ride but have to sit in the back and be quiet?
      No wonder the Republicans became the party of NO!
      Or when he insulted the Supreme court to their faces in a state of the disunion. Thank God Obama is now in the dust bin of history as far as residents in the Whitehouse go no more having to listen to him stutter his way through speeches!

      • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 10:04 am #

        “Why is angel food cake white and devil’s food cake black?” Muhammed Ali

        • Nightowl November 19, 2019 at 11:37 am #

          Clearly it is because cake is racist.

        • elysianfield November 19, 2019 at 11:59 am #

          “Why is angel food cake white and devil’s food cake black?” ”

          Because…Jesus. You know he was white. I have seen actual pictures of him.

          Muhammed? Not so much….

          • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 2:00 pm #

            He wasn’t white, he was a hippie.

          • elysianfield November 20, 2019 at 12:34 pm #

            “He wasn’t white, he was a hippie.”

            Well, perhaps. There are many others who wear home spun clothes and sandals….

      • capt spaulding November 19, 2019 at 1:23 pm #

        benr: How about the time Obama was insulted to his face during his State of the Union address, that was different, right? I’m no fan of Obama either, just sayin’. Pot callin’ the kettle black.

        • benr November 19, 2019 at 5:57 pm #

          You lie -Joe the plumber
          How was Joe wrong?
          Obama did nothing but lie and in his lying cost a lot of peoples health care to sky rocket!
          I pay twice as much for healthcare that is half as good.

          • capt spaulding November 19, 2019 at 8:22 pm #

            Right or wrong, he was disrespected just like you say the Supremes were. The big problem here, is that the office of the President is disrespected, making it a little bit easier for the next guy to insult the office, regardless of the president’s politics. Trump is not doing the Presidency any favors either, with his boorish behavior, and constant tweeting, it’s like the White House is in a trailer park somewhere. It just brings down the dignity of the office. I’ve said it before, he’s billionaire trailer trash.

          • seawolf77 November 20, 2019 at 9:31 am #

            That’s the most perfect description I’ve ever heard to describe him. Perfect. That description of who he is and what he does to the office is the most perfect description… ever. Billionaire Trailer Trash. Perfect.

          • Majella November 21, 2019 at 7:51 pm #

            “I pay twice as much for healthcare that is half as good.”

            I really fail to see how that could be…unless you’re talking about an employer plan and either you’ve changed employers or the employer has changed provider.

            Do you not qualify for the subsidy any more or are you just being principled and refusing to take commie freebies?

  47. SoftStarLight November 19, 2019 at 9:52 am #

    A glimpse into why the West is dying. The insane insistence that indeed Apples are Oranges and Oranges are Apples. Such is the logic of today’s West. And thus the reason for our hopelessness and spiritual impoverishment. I can promise you that Iranians, Yemenis, and Chinese have no confusion about the differences between Apples and Oranges. And thus their civilizations have existed for centuries and ages and will long after the West is nothing more than a fading memory.


    • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 1:59 pm #

      Take a deep breath and repeat after me: Buttigieg Buttigieg Buttigieg Buttigieg. What was that word in “Anger Management” that they repeated for peace and calm? Gastroba or something like that.

      • SoftStarLight November 20, 2019 at 12:06 am #

        I thought it was Serenity Now? Well either way, no way, Jose. There is no way in the world you could persuade me to vote for that little Alfred E. Neumanesque antichrist. But I do commit to deep breaths, positive mantras, peace and calm.

  48. seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 10:13 am #

    Edwards put it all together for a remarkable win, overcoming an all-out effort by Trump for Rispone, the dominance of Republicans in Louisiana in recent years and more than $25 million spent by the GOP, outside business interests and his Republican opponent.

    When it was all tallied, Edwards won 51.34% versus 48.66% for Rispone, a difference of 40,300 votes, according to complete but unofficial returns from the Secretary of State’s office.

    “Everything came together for Gov. Edwards,” said John Couvillon, a Baton Rouge-based pollster and demographer.

    The Democratic formula for a statewide candidate to win in Louisiana typically calls for taking at least 33% of the white vote and at least 90% of the black vote, and for African Americans to account for at least 30% of the overall turnout.

    Edwards exceeded all of those marks on Saturday, said Couvillon, who estimated that the governor won 95% of the black vote and 33.5% of the white vote, and that black voters accounted for 30.5% of the overall turnout, up from 27.6% in the primary.
    Edwards won re-election by rolling up big margins in New Orleans, Baton Rouge and Shreveport – all cities governed by African-American mayors – while winning or holding his own in suburbs of New Orleans that had overwhelmingly voted Republican in 2003 when the last Democrat, Kathleen Blanco, was elected governor.

    Edwards won an astounding 57% of the vote in Jefferson Parish (Blanco won only 37% of the vote there against Bobby Jindal, the Republican candidate) and 40% of the vote in St. Tammany Parish (compared to only 26% for Blanco in 2003).

    Edwards won 66% of East Baton Rouge Parish versus only 47% for Blanco in 2003.

    These are all white strongholds and Edwards ran the table. The people I know in Louisiana all hated Rispone, and these are die-hard Republicans.

    • SoftStarLight November 20, 2019 at 12:17 am #

      Well if he wouldn’t have hired those illegal foreigners he would have impressed more people and that’s one of the reasons Eddie couldn’t make it over the finish line with the White vote. Conservatives are either going to have to be White Nationalists or they are going to lose elections. No more of this whole way of thinking that jobs and money comprise the complete and sole interests of voters. And that all 7 billion of the world’s people can relocate here and boost market share and corporate profits for the oligarchs and the peons will be happy because diversity.

  49. Walter B November 19, 2019 at 10:13 am #

    I don’t usually change the subject, but this one seems worth breaking my habits. From an interesting RT op-ed on Wokesterism, that asks WHY, it all makes a lot of sense, at least to me:

    5. The bosses are woke themselves.

    4. To pander to their clients.

    3. Being woke is easier than actually paying workers.

    2. To keep the government wolf from the door.

    1. Wokeness is itself part of globalist capitalism.

    The rest of the article is here:



    • cbeard November 21, 2019 at 12:30 pm #

      Thanks for the RT link.

  50. seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 10:50 am #

    Several stories discussing the possibility that the US shale oil boom could be coming to an end appeared last week. IHS Markit predicts that growth in US oil production is heading for a “major slowdown,” falling from 440,000 b/d in 2020 to “essentially flattening out” the following year. The 440,000 b/d in annual growth projected for 2020 itself represents a dramatic reduction from last year’s figure.

    “Going from nearly 2 million b/d annual growth in 2018, an all-time global record, to essentially no growth by 2021 makes it pretty clear that this is a new era of moderation for shale producers,” according to Raoul LeBlanc, IHS Markit’s vice president for North America. “This is a dramatic shift after several years, where annual growth of more than 1 million barrels per day was the norm.” Given the financial trends and assuming a West Texas Intermediate crude oil price averaging around $50 per barrel in 2020 and 2021, IHS Markit foresees significant effects on operations. The firm noted that it expects a nearly $20 billion drop in onshore drilling and completions spending over three years.

    Matt Simmons said it best “Records are peaks.” Same thing happened in 1970. He found articles talking about that old kook Hubbert who predicted we would be in decline and we’ve never produced more. Peaked that very year- 1970.

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    • JohnAZ November 19, 2019 at 9:01 pm #

      One. Oil reserves are finite, using it up faster just brings on TLE sooner.

      Two. Each new technology to extract oil is much costlier to operate. The days of sticking a straw in the ground are over. Fracking will pass a maximum as the geography is finite, and the hot spots, areas with maximum concentration of oil embedded, have already run out. Fracking has probably passed its own peak already. Deep water drilling is self limiting as the lack of control of long pipelines makes the risk of another “Deepwater Horizon” increase. Once occurring, reaction also becomes more difficult.

      I disagree with the current administration’s attitude totally. We should be investing in alternatives to oil, not increasingly complex oil extraction. How to make it happen?

      Let the cost of oil float to where it should be with no supports.

      • seawolf77 November 20, 2019 at 8:27 am #

        The Tier 1 acerage is gone. It is impossible to keep up with the decline rates using Tier 2 acerage. In fact half of the 2 mbpd increase in 2018, a record, is already gone 7 months into the new year.
        What that means is we’re at the second peak. Sometime early next year oil production will start to decline, both in America and worldwide. Conventional oil has been on a plateau for 15 years. From 1995 to 2005 they spent 2 trillion dollars and added 10 mbpd. From 2005 to 2015 they spent 3 trillion dollars just to stay flat. We’ve seen this movie before, all these techniques that maintain production or increase it short term only means the decline will be swifter. Looks like JHK’s long emergency will end in 2020.

  51. volodya November 19, 2019 at 12:54 pm #

    Our esteemed friend the Archdruid drew attention to the fact that a certain ranking member of the economics profession (so-called), finally admitted that maybe he miscalculated when he spent years touting the benefits of globalization aka “off-shoring”. And not only that but using his authority as one of the profession’s luminaries to shit on anyone that dared differ with the pro-globalization consensus.

    I guess it was the prevalence of anger and discontent that finally twigged things and, much as one might have preferred to not connect the dots and stay with the preferred world-view, the dots were too close together to not connect. 

    And so I suppose that the Flying Brick Festivals in places like Hong Kong, Lebanon, Chile, France, plus the somewhat more sedate demonstrations of discontent like the Brexit vote and the election victory of Donald Trump, finally got unignorable, but with nary a nod to the fact that while the cream of the academic world fucked up massively, that little man with the big ears and squawky voice (RIP) who talked about “a giant sucking sound”, and who got laughed at for his trouble, had it dead right.

    Lots of blame to go around on this one, a lot of economists had a hand in this disaster. And such is the contempt for the Orange One that many of these economics – cough – experts, deride the measures that Trump is taking to right the balance and re-set the clocks, which makes you wonder. Yes, see, if a – cough – expert and mouth-piece for globalization had it so wrong before, why the fuck would anybody listen now? You’d think credibility would be pretty much nil.

    But then folks, that would misunderstand the nature of the game that these presumed – cough – experts are playing. The way I see it, economics is one of those egregious crapologies masquerading as a bona fide and respectable academic field, where people do serious and dispassionate investigation. 

    Economics in my opinion is a load of garbage, useless at best, harmful at worst, practitioners too often charlatans, front-men for various interests, lending a veneer of academic respectability for agendas of blind greed, emphasis on BLIND. Listen to them and you know who they work for the minute they open their mouth. 

    But different people have got different outlooks and so there’s different ways you might look at this. One is the way of generosity, assuming the best of intentions, and so you’d say economists merely had it wrong. Spectacularly, dreadfully wrong, screwed irretrievably and by orders of magnitude, but sincere in their predictions. That’s to say they were merely incompetent. 

    The other way to look at it is to say that intellectuals mouth the words that their moneyed betters require them to mouth, and so predictions forecasting a world of prosperity, where adjustments from an industrial past of mass employment would be relatively painless and cost-less, were a deliberate deception because nobody with a stitch of sense could believe such obvious malarkey. Which would make economists liars. 

    So which is it? Incompetence or deliberate deception? If you believe the former, then I’d say you have got hope for the betterment of the world. If you believe the latter, you’d say that’s the nature of the game, shills shamelessly spewing what they damn well know is nonsense, for the benefit of the few and the great detriment of the many. 

    Incompetence or deliberate deception – neither is good. Either way, being so far off the mark on so important a matter of public policy would require at the very least a reassessment as to why institutions of higher learning expend resources on a field of so little worth. Either fix the damn thing or abolish it, but you can’t leave it as is. 

    Which brings us to why we’re here talking about Bill Barr and the various goings-on in The Swamp. It was via the financial and economic calamity of globalization that Trump came to power. And it’s because Trump threatens to un-do it and so threatens the fortunes of the Manhattan-Washington Axis that they’re trying to remove him. 

    • benr November 19, 2019 at 1:29 pm #

      Well put but don’t also forget that Trump plays a special brand of troll.
      He makes people either really hate him or find him amusing.
      Add in the left aka brand Democrat considers Trump a traitor to the plantation. I mean how dare he jump ship and go Republican!

      • Majella November 19, 2019 at 3:55 pm #

        I find him amusing AND I detest him.

        • benr November 19, 2019 at 5:55 pm #

          Now you get it see Trump for what he is a reality star with some blend of business acumen that managed to get in the Whitehouse.
          All you can do is laugh and hope he at least gets a few things right.
          While he is in office neither side can focus on writing more useless laws that only make peoples lives more perilous and difficult.

          • capt spaulding November 19, 2019 at 8:25 pm #

            I feel much better now that I know his qualifications to hold the most critical job in the world.

          • benr November 20, 2019 at 9:23 am #

            @cpt Spaulding

            And yet I assume you are a Democrat correct?
            No one in the last thirty years from either side has really been fit for the office.
            So what is the fix?
            Look at the clown car on the DEMOCRAT side.
            Bernie Sanders is not fit to be county dog catcher.
            Lizzie Warren is an absolute joke and will be a disaster.
            Buttigieg can’t even run his tiny town right.and the rest are even worse.
            Trump bad DEMOCRATS WORSE.

          • capt spaulding November 20, 2019 at 11:34 am #

            At one time I was a Democrat. Way back when they represented the working man. Today they just represent the 1% and the corporations, just like the Republicans have always done. It’s a real dilemma, I tell you, and all I can think of is trying to do the least damage to the country that I can.

            I put my ass on the line for this country, and I feel that I have earned the right to be concerned about what happens here. As far as who I can vote for, it’s a bit of a dilemma. There’s no such thing as a perfect candidate. Right now, in my opinion, the one who will do the least damage, is Warren. I know, I know, Pocahontas.

            She does, however, believe that the wealthy and the corporations should pay more taxes, and they should not be allowed to buy congressmen to do their bidding. Is she perfect? No, but she’s the best I can see out of the bunch. It’s a tough choice, but it’s the best I can do for the sake of my kids. I have to think of their future. If I’m wrong, so be it, I tried my best.

          • elysianfield November 20, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

            “She does, however, believe that the wealthy and the corporations should pay more taxes, and they should not be allowed to buy congressmen to do their bidding…”

            Well, Pocahontas SAYS she is gonna do things…but how many politicians SAY stuff, and then, when elected, do otherwise?

            I only voted for Trump to act as a shit-stirrer…and the shit has been, and is continuing to be, stirred. That he has tried to accomplish things, and is continuing to do so, is just a plus.

            I always was a fan of Elizabeth Warren…before she became a Senator…her exalted position now offers, perhaps, a different perspective?

          • capt spaulding November 20, 2019 at 7:19 pm #

            As far as stirring the shit, you did that all right. All I can say is that to the best of my knowledge, Warren is the one, warts & all. If someone better and more honest comes along, they’ll get my vote. You can list the honest politicians in Wash DC on one hand, and probably be missing a couple fingers to boot.

    • K-Dog November 19, 2019 at 5:12 pm #

      You seem to be stuck in a dilemma but there is an easy and I say correct way out of your swamp.

      Your experts are not experts and it is as simple as that. Wake up to that fact.

      ‘Experts’ will be found even if there are no people around qualified to be experts at all. The human race demands experts. Substitutes will be found. Uncertainty is a terror which will be avoided.

      In the absence of real experts who could accurately represent reality, those who advocate socially advantageous positions are picked as substitutes by those who benefit from whatever it is they spew. Be it true or false. The result being that experts are picked by social convention and not by what they know.

      • SoftStarLight November 20, 2019 at 12:22 am #

        That’s a good point.

      • volodya November 20, 2019 at 11:18 am #

        K-dog, agreed. The point you’re making has wider application than just the the economics profession (I gag at calling it a “profession” but there it is) and could apply to a wide variety of garbage-ologies pretending to be respectable fields of study with something useful to say.

        Different people will have different takes on the harm inflicted by academic charlatans, some maybe pointing to the sociopaths in the field of sociology as the worst, but in my books nothing surpasses economics as the ultimate in spreading so much visible harm to so many people. Globalization is just one example.

        Janet Yellen, when she was Chair of the Fed, told us that they don’t understand inflation. They don’t understand inflation? What, economists don’t know shit? First I’d heard of it. 

        But why the fuck wouldn’t they understand inflation? Economists have only been studying it for generations, and the Fed has floors full of economics PhDs. So maybe they shoulda admitted to this fraud a while back – oh I don’t know, maybe forty or fifty years ago – given that inflation is a pretty important item in the Fed’s job description. This revelation is something akin to NASA telling us they don’t understand Newtonian mechanics.But really, I wasn’t surprised given that no economist has ever been right, ever, about anything.  

        Yellen really made me laugh when she told us this past year that Trump doesn’t understand economics. Listen to who’s talking.  

        Before her, various dick-heads pretended to know what the fuck they were talking about just prior to the great big crap-out we called the 2008 financial crisis. In 2007 Bernanke told everyone that risks in the subprime housing market “seemed likely to be contained”. “Seemed likely”? Weasel-words giving weasel space but no, they fucking weren’t contained, not even close, and given that this statement came from one of the country’s foremost economists, wielding great power over the affairs of the nation, this strikes me as a firing offense if I ever saw one. 

        So many examples of either howling incompetence or howling, bald-faced lies. This is no profession worthy of the name. Why we give those ass-wipes the time of day is beyond my reckoning. But, then again, that was the point of your post.

  52. Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2019 at 1:28 pm #

    Welcome to the Great Replacement: Culture War 2.0
    Peter Boghossian

    This is where it gets bizarre.
    For six decades or more, America’s political history has been driven by cultural warfare. This is usually traced to the social revolutions of the 1960s, but it began earlier. Culture War 1.0 began in the 1950s as religious enthusiasts sought to win hearts, minds, and souls for Christ in a society that was rapidly liberalizing and secularizing. That is the war that drifted to a whimpering end as recently as 2013, when the Supreme Court handed down culturally significant rulings bolstering the case for same-sex marriage. In 2015, the Court gave same-sex marriage its full endorsement, ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges that restrictions on same-sex marriages were unconstitutional. By this point, Culture War 1.0 was over. This first culture war was mostly fought over issues of religious faith and morality, such as whether creationism was a viable alternative to the theory of biological evolution and whether limits should be placed on institutionalizing Christian values in the public sphere. In Culture War 2.0, the supernatural, metaphysics, and even religion more broadly have become irrelevant. The demands of Christian faith and morality have been replaced by something far more threatening to a society founded on Enlightenment principles. Culture War 2.0 rotates around three axes: 1) the new rules of engagement, 2) the correspondence theory of truth, and 3) the role intersectionality ought to play in everyone’s worldview. Let’s examine each of these features to see how Culture War 2.0 has made allies out of former ideological enemies. Call this The Great Realignment. Rules of Engagement The rules of engagement relate to how we deal with our disagreements. In Culture War 1.0, if an evolutionary biologist gave a public lecture about the age of the Earth based on geological dating techniques, creationist detractors would issue a response, insist that such dating techniques are biased, challenge him to a debate, and ask pointed—if unfairly loaded—questions during the Q&A session. In Culture War 2.0, disagreements with a speaker are sometimes met with attempts at de-platforming: rowdy campaigns for the invitation to be rescinded before the speech can be delivered. If this is unsuccessful, critics may resort to disrupting the speaker by screaming and shouting, engaging noise makers, pulling the fire alarm, or ripping out the speaker wires. The goal is not to counter the speaker with better arguments or even to insist on an alternative view, but to prevent the speaker from airing her views at all. Today’s left-wing culture warriors are not roused to action only by speakers whose views run afoul of the new moral orthodoxy. They combat “problematic” ideas anywhere they’re found, including peer-reviewed academic journals. In 2017, Portland State University Political Science Professor Bruce Gilley published a peer-reviewed article titled “The Case for Colonialism” in Third World Quarterly. Many academicians were enraged, but rather than write a rebuttal or challenge Gilley to a public debate (as they might have done in the era of Culture War 1.0), they circulated a popular petition demanding that Portland State rescind his tenure, fire him, and even take away his Ph.D. “The Case for Colonialism” was eventually withdrawn after the journal editor “received serious and credible threats of personal violence.” Christian organizations have a long history of censorship, and this has continued to some extent even in recent decades. All the same, such an attempt to suppress an academic article would have been almost unthinkable during Culture War 1.0. There were some analogous attempts on the part of Christians during precursors of this culture war, as for example in the incidents surrounding Tennessee’s Butler Act of 1925 and the subsequent “Scopes Monkey Trial.” And religious would-be censors during Culture War 1.0 did occasionally make attempts on novels and movies interpreted as blasphemous or obscene, such as The Last Temptation of Christ (1988). But for the most part, Creationists in the first Culture War didn’t want evolutionary biologists to lose their tenure and their doctorates. They wanted to debate and prove them wrong. One common theme running throughout Culture War 2.0 is the idea, endorsed by many well-meaning activists, that speech is violence. And if speech is violence, the thinking goes, then we must combat speech with the same vigor we use to combat physical violence. This entails that we cannot engage supposedly violent speech, sometimes referred to indiscriminately as “hate speech,” merely with words. If someone is being punched in the face, it’s futile to say, “Would you kindly stop?” or “This is not an ethical way to behave.” You need to take action. The rules of engagement change if speech cannot be met with speech—with written rebuttals, debates, and Q&A sessions. If speech is violence, it must either be prevented or stopped with something beyond speech, such as punching Nazis, throwing milkshakes, or using institutional mechanisms to smother unwanted discourse. Correspondence Theory of Truth The correspondence theory of truth basically states that objective truth exists and we can know something about it through evidence and reason. That is, there are objective truths to be known, and we gain reliable knowledge about them when our beliefs align with reality. It’s termed “the correspondence theory of truth” because a statement is considered true when it corresponds with reality and false when it does not. In Culture War 1.0, the correspondence theory of truth was a given on all sides. In 2014, even as Culture War 1.0 was ending, Bill Nye “the Science Guy” debated Ken Ham from “Answers in Genesis” over the age of the Earth, with Nye arguing the evidence demonstrated Earth was considerably older than Ham claimed. Despite their differences, both believed there was a truth “out there” and that we could know it through science, reason, and, in Ham’s case, faith and Scripture. And, as was common in Culture War 1.0, Nye and Ham also agreed on the rules of engagement—structured debate, which they entered with respect for the process. In Culture War 2.0 the correspondence theory of truth—with its commitment to the idea that there are better and worse ways to come to knowledge about an objectively knowable world—is no longer common ground. For those on one side of this latest fight, the correspondence theory of truth has been replaced with more subjective ways of knowing. But this is not merely a turn away from objectivity to subjectivity. Culture War 2.0 is marked by one side’s turn toward understanding knowledge as determined by identity markers like race, gender, disability status, and sexual orientation. And—so the theory goes—the more “oppression variables” comprise one’s identity, the clearer one’s understanding of reality becomes. Think about it like this: cis-hetero white males see the world in grayscale. Every oppression characteristic gives one access to an additional color. So cis-hetero black males see the world in grayscale and blue. Cis-lesbian black females see the world in grayscale, blue, and orange. Trans non-binary disabled uneducated black immigrants see the world in a panoply of colors and thus are positioned to have a more accurate view of reality. In Culture War 2.0, correspondence theories of truth aren’t just dead: truth itself is inaccessible to people who do not possess the right identity characteristics. Intersectionality Kimberlé Crenshaw, Professor of Law at Columbia Law School and the University of California, Los Angeles, defined and popularized the term intersectionality. In essence, intersectionality is the idea that seemingly separate identities like black and gay and female overlap and compound one’s experience of oppression. For example, black women are oppressed in ways recognizably different from those applying to white women or black men. According to intersectionalists, this is the indispensable insight needed to understand social and political reality. It is the best way to understand how various identity characteristics inform public perceptions and confer unearned advantages or “privilege” on some groups (notably white heterosexual men) while others remain oppressed. Acceptance or rejection of an intersectional mindset is a fault line in Culture War 2.0. Specifically, the dividing line defining sides in this culture war arises along one’s answers to what role intersectionality should play in how we understand reality and how we design legal, economic, and educational systems. For intersectionalists, an intersectional understanding of the world is imperative for social justice, equity, and remediating past and ongoing injustices like racism and homophobia. Why? Because reliable knowledge is tied to identity. For others, ideas such as Crenshaw’s might be helpful tools to understand how a person could experience specific forms of oppression, but it ends there. There’s no moral or epistemological imperative to use an ideologically interpretive intersectional lens—rather than a traditionally liberal one emphasizing individuality and universal principles—to refashion society and its systems. The role intersectionality ought to play in forming one’s understanding of the world and in creating systems is causing schisms throughout society—from knitting clubs to clinical medicine and even within the Southern Baptist Convention. Intersectionality is currently dividing Christendom: many younger Millennial Christians believe one must examine scripture through an intersectional lens, while other older, Baby Boomer Christians categorically reject the need for any additional lens to interpret the Bible. The Great Realignment This is where it gets bizarre. Those people who accept the correspondence theory of truth (even though they may not know it by name) agree on the traditional rules of engagement (discourse, debate, dialogue) and do not view intersectionality as a necessary model for getting to the truth. Academicians in this group often adopt some variation of standpoint theory. These individuals are on one side of Culture War 2.0, and they include many liberal atheists and conservative Christians. Those on the other side of 2.0 do not subscribe to the correspondence theory of truth, believe speech should be shut down if it’s hurtful or potentially harmful, and think intersectional, transformative approaches are necessary to refashion systems. These people are also predominantly atheists and Christians: intersectional “woke” atheists and intersectional “woke” Christians. As a point of contact, I am a non-intersectional, liberal atheist. If a conservative Christian believes Jesus walked on water—and believes this either is or is not true for everyone regardless of race or gender—and if she values discourse and adheres to basic rules of engagement, then she is closer to my worldview than an atheist who believes race and gender play a role in determining objective truth and that her opponents should not be allowed to air what she considers harmful views. Many conservative Christians understand this intuitively. So do many liberal atheists. And that’s what makes this Great Realignment of Culture War 2.0 so bizarre. It’s no longer liberals and atheists versus conservatives and Christians. It’s some atheists aligning with some Christians and other atheists aligning with other Christians. And each, in turn, believes that what’s at stake is no less than the future of Western Civilization. How this will play out depends on who wins Culture War 2.0. A Final Thought It may be that there is more to this picture than we are yet able to see. Though this article captures my current thinking on the topic, it may still be incomplete because it takes for the whole what will turn out to be only a part. Ultimately, the current culture war could hinge on the conflict between those trying to preserve cognitive liberty, along with the practices and institutions designed to support or strengthen it, and those who are trying to shut it down, or at least passively accepting its decline. At this stage, however, it may be too early to tell—and anyway, it is a subject for another day.

    Peter Boghossian is the co-author of How to Have Impossible Conversations (Da Capo, 2019).

    JS: Fascinating. There can be no conversation with those who don’t believe in objective reality. That’s why talking withe Sea Wolf or Elrond seems like playing in silly puddy: there’s no there there. Just trickery, school yard tactics, intimidation, and the Iron Fist if you don’t get in line.

    At least under Islam, there’s Something there. It wouldn’t be nearly as alien as this. That’s not too say it’s desirable for Us. Ultimately Islam and the Communism will fight it out as well. Of course Islam is degenerating in the West as well – as per the new reality of “Miggers” or Muslims who listen to Muslim rap and act like Blacks. But Islam isn’t worried about that – they’ve always had a place for savages after all. They will be reeled in in time. Almost everyone needs to believe in something after all – sooner or later. Even gang members and rappers have to grow up. And Islam offers that something in abundance.

    • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 1:56 pm #


      People can deny an objective reality all they want but in the end they only hurt themselves by denying themselves the possibility of unfolding their full potential to experience and live life, which can only occur within the context of an objective reality.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2019 at 1:56 pm #

      Majella is an angry bowl of jello. Alba is an angry bowl of jello that knows grammar.

      Sea is a bowl of jello with rusty nails in it. Elrond is Jello in a Platonic sense.

      • stelmosfire November 19, 2019 at 2:38 pm #

        Don’t forget what “The Cos” says, “There’s always room for J-E-L-L-O”

        Man has that guy fallen. But as Puck would say “Free Bill Cosby!”

        • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 4:19 pm #

          I heard somewhere Cosby actually enjoys being incarcerated…

          • Q. Shtik November 19, 2019 at 8:46 pm #

            Cosby actually enjoys being incarcerated… – sunburst


            Because he has a ‘captive’ audience for his humor?

      • GreenAlba November 19, 2019 at 3:16 pm #

        Alba is an angry bowl of jello that knows grammar.”

        Anger isn’t my thing, whether in a bowl or free-standing. Clueless again.

        I’ll admit to a passable knowledge of grammar, though, primarily due to the kind of education dispensed in the 50s and 60s, plus a naturally logical mind.

        I should have learned to code…

        Your man’s book is interesting, though. I downloaded a free sample, along with a sample of another book of his, A Manual for Creating Atheists. Not that I have any aspirations in that direction, but I enjoy reading the discussions.

        You might like his Foreword to this book, Everybody is wrong about God.


        Sorry, it won’t connect when I try to embed it. Like I said, I should have learned…

        Remember to respond to it in the spirit of the first book. 🙂

        • GreenAlba November 19, 2019 at 3:21 pm #

          PS we call it jelly. I wonder if you have jellofish. 🙂

        • GreenAlba November 19, 2019 at 3:28 pm #


          From the cut-and-paste job:

          “Culture War 1.0 began in the 1950s as religious enthusiasts sought to win hearts, minds, and souls for Christ in a society that was rapidly liberalizing and secularizing.”

          I would suggest that was not the only context. There was a deliberately engineered intense religious revival in the US for political purposes, in the context of the Cold War, which is still echoing through the decades now.


          • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2019 at 5:01 pm #

            As Adams said, Without the “Black Brigade” (the Ministers), there would have been no American Revolution or United States of America. Cult before Culture, mein Frau. I remain your Teacher and you my ungrateful student. You the wayward Falcon and I the Falconer.

            I’m surprised you read it. The paragraph structure didn’t come through for some reason – that usually doesn’t happen. But it is fascinating. If you believe (do you?) in objective reality, then we are closer than some Atheists are too each other or Christians to each other. But that is strange since Christians must believe in objective reality – at least in my book. Atheists? I don’t know, why in other words? Marx did I should think, but the Victory was everything to him and not the Truth. The disciples focused on that and have been all about the journey and its tactics, unconcerned about what happens after they win. That’s what blind hatred will do to you.

          • GreenAlba November 19, 2019 at 5:20 pm #

            Meine Frau. Told you that already.

            Your delusions are your own, regarding your guru complex. Enjoy them – you must need them.

            I do believe in objective reality, but I don’t think it’s always easy to find agreement on what it is. And I may be wrong about how much of what I perceive is actually real, but I believe, without going into theoretical physics, which is not my territory, that the realities we need to deal with on a day-to-day basis are objective enough and verifiable enough.

            Sometimes two aspects of reality that seem contradictory can co-exist, however. Hence one can argue that the EU is a neoliberal project, but so is Brexit in its management and (now not-too-well hidden) objectives from the top. We’ve just watched a documentary about bankers and their lowly support workers in a part of the City, some of them coming up on a weekly basis from Hartlepool in the North East of England (near the town where I mostly lived as a child).

            It was a reminder of how Thatcher made a deliberate decision to destroy the manufacturing base of the UK and replace it with the Masters of the Universe and their trickle-down bollocks. She didn’t need the EU for that, and 40 years later, the UK is the most unequal society in the EU. And so it will remain post-Brexit. Simplistic templates rarely do the job.

            I don’t think of myself as an ‘atheist’. I just don’t consider myself a theist. Read the Foreword I directed you to and you may start to get the point.

            I would argue Christians can do fine without believing in objective reality, as much as anyone else. Too much objective reality would topple their subjective beliefs.

            I’ll leave Marx to you.

          • GreenAlba November 19, 2019 at 5:21 pm #

            I don’t know why you continue your argument that religion is socially useful, when no-one, to my knowledge, is disputing that.

          • GreenAlba November 19, 2019 at 6:14 pm #

            In fact Maggie Thatcher, architect of financial globalism, hated the EU and fought it tooth and nail.

            Nope. Simplistic templates don’t work. As voters will find to their cost when they’re denied the healthcare they’ve been used to, just for starters.

            I read an interesting article today about how the Department of Trade has told its minions not to use the term ‘Drug Pricing’, since they’ve told us plebs that ‘drug pricing’ is not going to be a scam brought in by a trade deal with the US (even though US Big Pharma has been laying down its conditions already).

            They’re to use the term ‘value innovation’ instead.

            Haha. Hahahahaha. Nice one. I wonder if that was suggested to Jeremy Hunt by those nice Kaiser Permanente people he was already in talks with when he was Health Secretary (watch for revolving door directorships in due course, post-Brexit, for those who will deliver us into the maw of the US healthcare corporatocracy).

    • Q. Shtik November 19, 2019 at 2:42 pm #

      silly puddy – Janos



    • Elrond Hubbard November 19, 2019 at 3:21 pm #

      Eyesore McGee: “There’s no there there. Just trickery, school yard tactics, intimidation, and the Iron Fist if you don’t get in line.”

      Self-dramatizing, and painting principled opposition as intimidation. It’s normal for ideologues to believe that no opponent of theirs could be both intelligent and honest.

      As for the ‘Iron Fist’: huh? How many divisions hath Elrond? The only Iron Fist I know about is the Marvel TV show, which was lame.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2019 at 5:19 pm #

        In other words, Conservatives aren’t really being assaulted by Anti-Fa in the streets and Conservative speakers aren’t being denied access to Universities by violence, threats of violence, harassment, and indifference on the part of the University Administrations.

        You are one of the People of the Lie in other words. And your Father was a Liar from the beginning.

    • lilykline November 19, 2019 at 5:34 pm #

      Too long Janos, nearly as long as JHK’s latest article..

      • Janos Skorenzy November 20, 2019 at 12:28 am #

        Good Lil. Glad to see you focus on what really matters – mammalian politics in other words. Just like others focus on grammar. Anything, anything to avoid ideas and meaning.

        • lilykline November 20, 2019 at 1:06 pm #


        • GreenAlba November 20, 2019 at 4:07 pm #

          “Anything, anything to avoid ideas and meaning.”

          Read that Foreword yet by your recommended author? Full of ideas and meaning.

    • SoftStarLight November 20, 2019 at 12:29 am #

      Red bearded Jihadis with Green Eyes are coming.

  53. sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 1:59 pm #

    Here is a very concise description of the process by which we attain a permanent state of ‘higher’ consciousness. It’s from the pen of Sri Aurobindo, a 20th century Indian saint who was one of the great, though relatively unknown, personages of our age:

    “What is meant…by the ‘psychic’ is the soul element in (human) nature, the pure psyche or divine nucleus which stands behind mind, life and body (it is not the ego) but of which we are only dimly aware. It is a portion of the Divine and…takes the experience of life through its outer instruments. As this experience grows it manifests a developing psychic personality which insisting always on the good, true and beautiful. Finally ( the psychic) becomes…strong enough to turn the Self towards the Divine. It can then come entirely forward, breaking through the mental, vital and physical screen…(thus) transforming the Self. Nature no longer imposes itself on the Self but the Self…imposes its dictates on nature.”

    As Sri Aurobindo implies this process is unfolding even now on a level of consciousness which transcends our ordinary awareness. It is happening whether we will it so or not, and it is happening to the self-proclaimed Atheist to the same extent it is happening to the devote Theist. It is a cosmic unfolding transcending individuals, and manifests on the political level as the ceaseless and incessant quest for freedom and equality on the part of all peoples of the world.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2019 at 2:06 pm #

      He was arrested for bomb making. I don’t hold that against him but tie dye you might, at least I would have thought so.

      You have strange spiritual tastes, no doubt indicative of being a very strange being. I don’t say bad, as Aurobindo seems to have been the real thing, but just very unusual. As for the Urantia book however….

      Actually I once dated a woman, a Phd student in Religion, who found in the Urantia Book insight into time that she had never found anywhere else. Now back to the Orange and Green races, and how they were genocided…..

      • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 2:31 pm #

        He was a nationalist during his youth but I don’t know about the bomb making part. I’m pleasantly surprised you have even heard of him, not to mention recognizing he was “the real thing”. My tastes are strange because I was trained at a young age to approach life comprehensively and seek out innovators (creative people) in all domains of culture.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2019 at 2:38 pm #

          Have you read the Hindu “Bible”, the Bhagavad Gita – a comprehensive summary of thousands of years of Indian Culture and religion?

          • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 2:44 pm #

            It’s a tough read and I didn’t make much progress. Overall it seems a bit too fantastical, unlike the Urantia Book (which you should revisit by the way)…

          • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2019 at 4:20 pm #

            Well you don’t know much about Hinduism then. You remind of Malthus in some way: strong attractions to select spiritual personalities (Meher Baba in his case, etc), but zero interest in the greater context from which they emerged. He compared the Bhagavad Gita to the Old Testament and expressed an aversion to such things in fact – which is ridiculous, both in terms of the comparison and the feeling.

            In other ways, you guys are opposite: He’s obsessed with the Dark and Evil, though not evil in himself. He’s “specialized” if you like, a scholar of Demonology. Ideally, he would be an advisor to Inquisitors who directly confront such people. You are so obsessed with the Light that you don’t believe the Darkness. But as C.S Lewis said, “nothing” is very strong….

            Christ certainly spoke much about the Darkness. At least the real one of the New Testament did. I don’t know if your Urantia one did or not. Hell? He mentions it more than any of the Old Testament Prophets.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2019 at 4:49 pm #

            The Bhagavad Gita is a tough read, but Aurobindo isn’t? My post are too long but Aurobindo’s books aren’t? His English is the most stilted imaginable and he’s a horrible stylist for the most part – but you find him otherwise. It really does take all types. I admit in certain passages he rises to great profundity and beauty and he obviously knows a lot about Yoga.

            Try his Bhagavad Gita and Commentary upon it. Don’t know if he translated it, just transliterated it based on the translations of others, or just relied on someone else’s translation. But in any case, your love for him may make open the Gita for you. He said, Every spiritual question is answered briefly but succinctly by the Gita.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2019 at 5:03 pm #

            He was arrested for bomb making and served time in prison. The slave is only noble when he rebels. And Christ made himself a whip of cords and drove the money changers out of the Temple. Pacifism? A faggot Jesus? I think not….

          • Q. Shtik November 19, 2019 at 8:53 pm #

            he obviously knows a lot about Yoga. – Janos


            You mean like ‘downward facing dog’ and ‘salutation to the sun?’



          • elysianfield November 20, 2019 at 1:38 pm #

            “Have you read the Hindu “Bible”, the Bhagavad Gita ”

            I have four or five volumes of the collection…nice, wildly colorful pictures on the dust covers drew me to the purchase….25 cents per volume at Goodwill….

            Shallow and dismissive? Hell yes….

            Will I ever crack the covers? Hell no….

      • Q. Shtik November 19, 2019 at 2:52 pm #

        a Phd student in Religion, – Janos


        As with a degree in Women’s Studies, a Phd in Religion plus two bucks will get you a ride on the subway.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2019 at 5:29 pm #

          Small change can often be found under seat cushions, Q. Also why don’t you get yourself a metal detector and start walking the beach at Atlantic City? You could make some fine coin. Just get certified and carry cuz it’s mostly Black, but the Boardwalk area should be alright before dark. Also get a Pit Bull and bring them along too.

  54. Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2019 at 2:01 pm #

    The words of Andrew Anglin anent the Cyclops, Dan Crenshaw:

    Honestly, I think Crenshaw more or less totally killed any long term politically viability with that statement.

    He literally said “if you don’t support Israel, you can’t have First Amendment rights,” and even the most aggressive Israel supporters don’t share that view.

    He really is a dumb sonovabitch.

    It would have been so easy for him to just spit out some nonsense about how it doesn’t actually violate the First Amendment. I mean, the people who promote it claim that it doesn’t (even though it can’t and won’t stand up to a SCOTUS ruling, which is inevitable).

    Instead, he says that if you are against “the only Jewish state” then you are an anti-Semite and you can’t have free speech.

    Even if that statement itself isn’t enough to destroy his career, the stupidity of actually saying that out loud certainly is. All of the big Jews who created this cycloptic bastard are going to start pulling support.

    My advice to Dan is twofold:
    1.Grow a longer beard, to increase the illusion that you have a jawline.
    2.Lose your other eye and wear double eye patches to increase the illusion that you’re some kind of badass.

    Furthermore, thank you for your service and move to Israel you cocksucker.

    JS: Michelle Malkin is emerging as our Galadriel – a true Heroine of the Groyper war. She infuriated the one eyed Bull on twitter and lead to him disgracing himself in this manner. She is our Strong Brown Girl while AOC and Ilhan are theirs. She doesn’t need my essence to be smart cuz she already is. Ilhan married her own brother. I don’t know if they consumated or not.

    • cc rider November 19, 2019 at 7:45 pm #

      I think your advice to Dan is spot on. Couldn’t agree more.

  55. BackRowHeckler November 19, 2019 at 2:18 pm #

    Hunger Strike, Day 2.

    Day 2 is when you begin dreaming about food, roast beef , apple pie, juicy burgers, pork chops etc. No matter how committed to The Climate you are.

    About 5 years back students at Yale staged a public hunger strike over events in Ferguson, Mo. (Remember all that?) Then some enterprising student reporter noticed some of the hunger strikers would break ranks and head off campus toward where a favorite pizza restaurant was. Well he blew the whistle on the so called Hunger Strike but the students saved face claiming it was a merely symbolic hunger strike to show solidarity with the rioters in Ferguson, MO burning down the city. It occurs to me that hunger strikes only work when the people in charge give a sh#t. It’s a dramatic, last ditch, desperate act, that could possibly kill you.


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    • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 2:40 pm #


      I once fasted for seven days for spiritual purposes. In my case, I didn’t start fantasizing about food until the fifth or sixth day. It actually gets easier as time goes by…

      • BackRowHeckler November 19, 2019 at 2:44 pm #

        Did you lose much weight?

        • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 2:52 pm #

          Not that I remember. I think it takes more than seven days to experience significant weight loss.

          • ellipsis November 20, 2019 at 10:47 am #

            That’s the down side to fasting. Your body slows down at the same pace as your food energy runs out. You might lose 3-4 pounds in the first two days due to residual food elimination, then after that it slows to a crawl. And so do your perceptions. Hours begin to feel like days and days like weeks. Then your mind begins to flit all over and the questioning begins. WHY in the world am I doing this to myself, etc.? Much easier to do in a supported group setting for most. Periodic daily fasting is now accepted as the better overall pure weight loss method, but weight loss in general ain’t much fun for most people.

    • elysianfield November 20, 2019 at 1:43 pm #

      it was a merely symbolic hunger strike…

      Well then, my respect for their cause and discomfort is also symbolic…as is my respect for them personally, and their supposed right to exist….

      Totally symbolic.

  56. BackRowHeckler November 19, 2019 at 2:36 pm #

    Holy Sh#t, Climate Hunger Strikers have stormed Nancy Pelosi’s office, imploring her to do something about the weather. They look to be about 16-17 years old, mostly girls. Good God, doesn’t this women have enough problems, she has to fix DC weather, too. Washington weather always sucked. Who the hell do these students think Nancy Pelosi is, God? The woman is pushing 80 for krissake. Give her a break.

    One of Pelosi’s staffers should inform these kids — who seem to be suffering from some form of hysteria caused by mass delusion — that the temp today at the South Pole is -58°F, and -6°F in the arctic. They can relax the world is not on fire despite anything rhey might have read in the NYTs.


    • BackRowHeckler November 19, 2019 at 2:42 pm #

      I known I known what about the floods in Venice.

      I have a list here of all the times Venice has flooded since Roman days. It’s a long list.

    • stelmosfire November 19, 2019 at 2:45 pm #

      Hey Marlin, check out the ten day forecast for Yakutsk, a city of 330,000 people. and it is not even December for another ten days! Yikes!

    • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2019 at 7:05 pm #

      There was a vast Civilization once in Ant Arctica – possibly non-human. Whoever gets to it first will rule the future. We got to it first already! The Ice is our shield. What do you have, Yanqui?

    • elysianfield November 20, 2019 at 1:54 pm #

      Climate warriors
      Sweet Sixteens, pheromones rife,
      The boys will follow….

      …As they did in the 60’s race protests….

  57. Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2019 at 2:37 pm #

    BRH likes Crenshaw even more now. He’s getting out his checkbook to make a donation….

    • BackRowHeckler November 19, 2019 at 2:43 pm #

      I’m not sure who Crenshaw is, Janos.

      Your above post was too long to read. Brevity my friend, brevity.

      • stelmosfire November 19, 2019 at 2:47 pm #

        You’d like him. He looks like a pirate.

      • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 2:50 pm #

        I agree. Janos’ post are too long. He should practice typing with one finger while sitting in a recliner. Then he’ll learn to be more concise.

        By the way Brh, some of your posts have an outdoorsy flavor to them which I appreciate. Like a good beer commercial…

        • BackRowHeckler November 19, 2019 at 3:13 pm #

          Funny you mention that SBS.

          I have a neighbor who writes jingles for a living, including well known tunes for beer commercials, like the Charlie Harper character in the sitcom Two and a Half Men. He seems to do quite well by the looks of it. Odd thing is he’s a serious musician and songwriter but makes his real living with those advertising jingles. Some guys have all the luck but it takes talent and hard work too.


          • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 4:14 pm #

            Nothing of real value in life comes easy (aside from fresh air, sunshine and the smell of evergreens)…

          • Walter B November 19, 2019 at 6:47 pm #

            Indeed sunburst….When a man finds that it is his destiny to suffer, he will have to accept his suffering as his task; his single and unique task. He will have to acknowledge the fact that even in suffering he is unique and alone in the universe.  No one can relieve him of his suffering or suffer in his place.  His unique opportunity lies in the way he bears his burden. Viktor Frankl

      • GreenAlba November 19, 2019 at 2:59 pm #

        “Your above post was too long to read. Brevity my friend, brevity.”

        It had much more merit than most of Janos’ cut-and-paste jobs. Different style of author altogether from his usual ones.

        • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 3:07 pm #

          I agree. I actually read and appreciated it…

          • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 8:33 pm #

            Why do we need an objective reality? Simply because without the priori assumption of an objective reality there could be no culture or civilization, and hence no framework for human development to occur, no means to raise ourselves above the animal level of existence. We would remain but ‘beasts of the field ‘…

      • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2019 at 4:23 pm #

        No it isn’t. The one before that was very long. You are so lazy you won’t even scroll up to see the difference.

        You are just protecting your Zionist program if you did but know.

        • BackRowHeckler November 19, 2019 at 4:43 pm #

          For Gods sake Janos you’re still tilting at the ‘Zionist’ windmill? I should have known. The only other place I see this sort of thing is when the Campus Fix runs a report on BDS cranks in student govt at the local State U. But they are dumb ass college kids, and you’re a grown man.


          • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2019 at 4:52 pm #

            Yeah cuz anyone who thinks that we shouldn’t be bowing down to the “Chosen” is both crazy and evil, right?

            You’d love Crenshaw. He’s a Privateer, a Pirate working for the Crown (the Coming King of the Jews) in a private capacity, say like Sir Francis Drake did for Queen Bess.

        • BackRowHeckler November 19, 2019 at 8:10 pm #

          I’m not discussing this subject with you anymore, Janos.

          When it comes to the State of Israel, you’ve gone off the deep end. There’s no talking to you.


          • Janos Skorenzy November 20, 2019 at 12:29 am #

            In other words, you agree that critics of Israel need to be deplatformed.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 20, 2019 at 5:12 am #

            When exactly did we ever “discuss” this? No matter what I said, you would just say “they are an ally” – as if that trumps all other claims. When I asked, What have they ever done for us? You reply, They give us info about Arabs. In other words, they help us help them. When you buy your dog a collar, does that make you his ally?

          • BackRowHeckler November 20, 2019 at 10:07 am #

            Janos, I don’t think anybody should be de platformed. You’re on this board saying anything you want, nobody is censoring you. This blog belongs to JHK and it’s up to him to determine what’s acceptable and what’s not, not me.

            I have to say he puts up with a lot.


  58. seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 3:04 pm #

    Roger Stone facing 20 years. If Trump wanted Hillary Clinton in jail so badly why didn’t he just hire her?

  59. seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 3:22 pm #

    A federal jury on Friday found the longtime Republican provocateur guilty on all charges for thwarting a House investigation into Russia’s 2016 election interference, opening up a political pandora’s box for a president already facing pressure from his conservative base to issue a pardon.
    Stone’s fate was sealed after a trial that spanned just over a week, which concluded with unanimous guilty verdicts against Stone on five felony counts of lying to investigators, one count of obstructing a congressional probe and one count of witness tampering.
    Ahhh more innocent behavior and jail time. Concrete walls and steel bars. How’s that for evidence of a crime?

    • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2019 at 6:53 pm #

      Being found guilty and sentenced to prison is proof of guilt? Or is the actual experience of walls and bars?

      This is what passes for logic with Seawolf. Guess he never read Thoreau’s “Civil Disobedience”, the essay that so influenced Mahatma Gandhi. What happens is what is supposed to happen I guess. All of Kim Jong Un’s victims deserve what they got in other words. Ditto Stalin’s, Mao’s, and Eisenhower’s.

      • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 7:04 pm #

        I believe that is correct. Being found guilty by a jury of your peers is proof of guilt.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2019 at 7:35 pm #

          So a bunch of Black thugs would be your peers? Or a bunch of rich bastards born with a sliver spoon?

          You have revealed yourself as has the Cyclops, Dan Crenshaw. You are brood blothers.

          • seawolf77 November 19, 2019 at 7:56 pm #

            Hey, it’s the law. I didn’t write it, I just have to follow it. You too.

          • capt spaulding November 19, 2019 at 8:39 pm #

            seawolf77, have you ever noticed that Roger Stone’s head is shaped exactly like Homer Simpson’s father’s head. Just noticed it when watching him do his perp walk the other day.

          • seawolf77 November 20, 2019 at 9:53 am #

            That triangular cone. Too funny.

        • cc rider November 20, 2019 at 10:39 am #

          So are you against convicted murderers and rapists being set free after DNA evidence later exonerates them? Or is the “jury of your peers” like a holy sacrament to you?

          Plenty of innocent people have been “found guilty” throughout history.

          Being “found guilty” is a legal construct which definitely does hold weight in a court of law, as it must. But it is not the same thing as being actually guilty.

          Just like some are “found not-guilty”. That does not mean the are are actually innocent.

          • cc rider November 20, 2019 at 10:48 am #

            Correction: That does not mean that they are actually innocent.

    • benr November 20, 2019 at 9:45 am #

      A reportedly biased judge appointed by Obama and a stacked jury on a case that is impossible to find anyone without an opinion on one way or another.
      No one remotely associated with Trump is going to get a fair and impartial jury and worse possibly judge.

      Roger played the clown and pissed off the judge and disrespected the process but had she had a shred of professionalism she would have recused herself.

      As if no one is found guilty and then DNA evidence shows it was not them thirty years later.
      You can bet there will be an appeal.

      I have zero skin in the game on Roger Stone beyond hoping he got a fair trial and knowing he did not as a result of the kharma wagon he created.

      Lying to Congress, FBI, and impeded investigations or destroyed evidence plenty of people have done it heck Hillary Clinton famously did so and still walks free.

      One set of rules for the little people, the deplorable, the peons, and one for the betters our overlords.


      • Majella November 20, 2019 at 5:54 pm #

        Roger Stone is a ‘little people, a deplorable and a peon’?

        And more ‘whataboutism’ on HRC. If the GOP could have found anything, surely it would have pursued it…or is the GOP (viz Trey Gowdy) just incompetent?

        • benr November 20, 2019 at 8:53 pm #

          Is he a Hillary supporter and DEMOCRAT?
          As I understand it you are a deplorable if you disagree with anything the Queen of the DNC espouses as her truth.

          • Majella November 21, 2019 at 12:15 pm #

            You were pleading Stone’s case from an entirely screwed up angle.

          • benr November 22, 2019 at 9:45 am #

            No from reality try a big dose of it.

  60. Pucker November 19, 2019 at 4:54 pm #

    “Effrey Jepstein hung himself. Jepstein used his dick as a rope and then fucked his head so hard that his neck broke.”

    George Stepanopholous for ABC News

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  61. Janos Skorenzy November 19, 2019 at 6:49 pm #

    “Holocaust deniers” = those who question our never-ending stream of cash to Israel
    “White nationalists” = those who aren’t buying the “pathway to citizenship/as long as they’re legal” bull
    “Street brawlers”= lower/working class/poor
    “Racists” = your grandma, anyone with a backbone, anyone who doesn’t get all tingly at the mere mention of “black entrepreneurs”

    See how Conservatism, Inc. uses the dog whistle– only in reverse!

    E Essington, Amren Poster

    This was in response to an article about Michelle Malkin being kicked out of the Young Americans for Freedom. Real Americans aren’t part of the New America you see. And every one of you except for SSL and Tate are on the wrong side of history. From your pov, we are and are morally suspect to boot. Imagine being on the side of your own people or even believing that they exist! It’s scandalous, simply scandalous….

    • malthuss November 19, 2019 at 11:24 pm #


      • Janos Skorenzy November 20, 2019 at 12:26 pm #

        What is your problem now? Why can’t you attain Clarity? Stop holding onto whatever you are holding onto. The baby can’t take the new toy without letting go of the rattle.

    • SoftStarLight November 20, 2019 at 1:30 am #

      All should heed the words of the prophets and be struck down in contrition for the Day of Reckoning approaches. Did not the Lord your God tell you that if you chose not the laws and ordinances He has ordained for you that the land itself would vomit you out? And new people would replace you, given in marriage and in childbirth while your clans hear not the joy of the wedding party or the cry of new born babies. The people that come to this land to replace you will mock your names and customs of depravity. Yea they are brought here to exact judgement on the rebellious and the wicked. For you forsook the blessings of your own people and nation. And all who have taken great joy in setting snares for the meek and the humble will be caught up themselves in the traps of the oppressors. And after the Lord casts out the wicked inhabitants and the oppressors, tormentors, and judges the meek and the humble shall inherit the Earth.

      • sunburstsoldier November 20, 2019 at 5:22 am #

        You are becoming a prophet like Isaiah SSL, forewarning Israel of her imminent destruction if she doesn’t repent of worshipping false idols and return to the ways of the Lord…

        Like the words of Jesus in the New Testament, the words of Isaiah, even with so great a passage of time, still ring with authenticity…

        • SoftStarLight November 20, 2019 at 12:34 pm #

          Well thank you for that but I could never rise to the level of Isaiah. But if I could but channel a mustard seed of his wisdom and prophetic foresight then I consider myself extraordinarily blessed indeed! But we must allow ourselves to be instruments of the Lord. I would rather be a vessel guided only by Him. But He gave us our own will and thus we must choose.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 20, 2019 at 12:27 pm #

        Good verse. Definitely applies to our current situation. The Love of Money has brought us down and made us ripe for the plucking.

        • SoftStarLight November 20, 2019 at 12:38 pm #

          Yes, as Ancient Israel followed Mammon so has the New Israel followed after him. And thus we will be judged harshly and dispersed among our enemies. I pray there is still time left to petition the Lord and beg for His forgiveness that He hold back the judgement.

      • Majella November 20, 2019 at 4:56 pm #

        Ah-ha. So, according to you, SSL, this ‘invading horde’ of ‘others’, replacing the ‘whites’ (you & yours, the non-Semitic chosen people) is divine retribution?

        There’s another Christian nutjob in Australia, a rugby player called Israel Folau, who is (seriously) blaming the bush fires & the inexorable drought on same-sex marriage & gays.


        • GreenAlba November 20, 2019 at 5:47 pm #

          It doesn’t seem that long since some Ayatollah or other was blaming floods on homosexuality (these multi-culti-fundies have so much in common).

          You gotta admire the way The Gays keep expanding their portfolio within the gig economy though.

          I wonder what their next gig will be. DeprAvian ‘flu?

          • Majella November 20, 2019 at 5:56 pm #

            “DeprAvian ‘flu” That’s quite a neat little twist there 🙂

      • Majella November 20, 2019 at 4:59 pm #


        “And after the Lord casts out the wicked inhabitants and the oppressors, tormentors, and judges the meek and the humble shall inherit the Earth.”

        I take it you believe yourself & your ilk to be the ‘meek & humble’, rather than the “wicked…oppressors, tormentors and judges’.

        Well, you would, wouldn’t you? But your repeatedly stated attitude to ‘others’ is definitely ‘judge-y’ and given the opportunity, you would definitely ‘oppress & torment’ them.

        • SoftStarLight November 21, 2019 at 9:00 am #

          Wrong Majella. Just because someone does not have my beliefs or attitudes does not mean they are not among “the meek and humble”. You should adopt a more open minded perspective on life. It would help you in your soul searching and data gathering efforts. For example, you clearly want to say here that in your opinion the “Right Wing” is mainly the place for “oppressors” and “tormentors” but you don’t go quite that far. Well, you should consider the fact that in the 20th century alone Leftists Communists were responsible for hundreds of millions of murders. This is not to exonerate anyone on the Right who would do such things and have done such things. Simply to say that the judgeyness you are displaying is coming from a biased viewpoint. One can be judgey as long as they do their best to remain objective.

          • Majella November 21, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

            Wrong, sweetheart. I see the ‘oppressors and tormentors’ always among the fanatical adherents to some ideology or other, with the Religious being, historically, the single largest perpetrator group. So, currently, that would include you et al.

          • SoftStarLight November 22, 2019 at 12:35 am #

            But you just said a little while ago that I was talking like a Pagan and now you are saying I am a dangerous Fundie.

          • Majella November 22, 2019 at 2:23 am #

            You’re confused? I’m surprised…you can express three contradictory perspectives in one sentence.

      • Majella November 22, 2019 at 2:26 am #

        C&P’d from which edition SSL?

  62. cc rider November 19, 2019 at 7:24 pm #

    Adam Shift was of course trying to put lipstick on a pig when talking up the pure patriotism of LTC Alexander Vindman.

    Well, let’s look at least one of his colleagues in the Army has to say….

    “A retired Army officer who worked with Democrat “star witness” Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman in Grafenwoher, Germany, claims Vindman “really talked up” President Barack Obama and ridiculed America and Americans in front of Russian military officers.

    In an eye-opening thread on Twitter last week, retired U.S. Army Lt. Colonel Jim Hickman said that he “verbally reprimanded” Vindman after he heard some of his derisive remarks for himself. “Do not let the uniform fool you,” Hickman wrote. “He is a political activist in uniform.”

    Hickman’s former boss at the Joint Multinational Simulation Center in Grafenwoehr has since gone on the record to corroborate his story.

    Hickman, 52, says he’s a disabled wounded warrior who served in Iraq and Afghanistan and who received numerous medals, including the Purple Heart.

    The retired officer said that Vindman, a naturalized U.S. citizen born in Ukraine, made fun of the United States to the point that it made other soldiers “uncomfortable.” For example, Hickman told American Greatness that he heard Vindman call Americans “rednecks”—a word that needed to be translated for the Russians. He said they all had a big laugh at America’s expense.,,,”



    • Nightowl November 20, 2019 at 8:21 am #

      Lt. Col. Backfpfeifengesicht’s testimony was hilarious.

      Somehow it managed to be even less productive than the testimonies before it, which were entirely non-productive.

      After watching Vindy get caught in multiple lies, I had to wonder how Mr. Sanpaku Eyes is feeling right about now.

      In aggregate, this may end up being even better than Mueller’s testimony in terms of comedic value.

      • cc rider November 20, 2019 at 10:44 am #

        I especially enjoyed how Shifty almost came unglued with the “sainted LTC” started talking about he spoke with some in the Intelligence Community. Liddle Adam had to quickly get in his totalitarian mode and stop that line of questioning that could go deeper down that rabbit hole. Of course he feared that it would lead to the Holy Whistleblower, peace be unto Him.

        • cc rider November 20, 2019 at 11:01 am #

          I just can’t type worth a damn anymore.

          Correction: I especially enjoyed how Shifty almost came unglued when the “sainted LTC” started talking about his speaking with some within the Intelligence Community……

          • capt spaulding November 20, 2019 at 11:44 am #

            You’re right, cc, that lifer prick should be shot for all the unAmerican shit he’s done. How the fuck he was allowed to become a lieutenant colonel, AND hold secret security clearances, is beyond me. I bet he’s got a Russian uniform at home in his closet. Wait, I forgot, Putin’s our buddy now, that’s why we gave him Iraq.

          • cc rider November 20, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

            No capt I don’t believe that Putin has Iraq. I gather that you live in a world of your own facts?

          • capt spaulding November 20, 2019 at 7:37 pm #

            Well, believe what you want, cc, I had a guy tell me the other day that Hillary, if elected, planned to use chemtrails to increase America’s lesbian population.

            Her election was planned as a one-two punch by the liberals, who planned to combine 8 years of Obama rule with another 8 years under a veiled lesbian-supporting socialist.

            Clinton was a prime candidate for for the powerful Illuminati (you know them as the Deep State) , who sponsor the current homosexual chemtrails that confuse American men about their masculinity, and is at the root of all this cis-gender nonsense currently in the news.

            I guess he lives in a world of his own, just like you say I do, and just like you appear to as well. In some areas that’s known as cognitive dissonance, and there are some excellent examples right here on this board,

          • cc rider November 20, 2019 at 7:46 pm #

            What in the hell are you talking about capt? All I said is that Putin doesn’t “have Iraq” and you go off on this incredible non-sequitur tangent.

            You might want to ask your Doc about changing meds.

          • capt spaulding November 20, 2019 at 9:04 pm #

            That was an illustration of someone possessing his own set of facts, however bizarre they may be. My medication is doing just fine, although I find that a bowl of Ayahuasca occasionally, helps me understand some of the right wingers posting here. It’s easier to understand their world that way. I’ve found myself wondering if cc stands for Carlos Casteneda.

        • Nightowl November 20, 2019 at 4:08 pm #

          Every time he is stressed his eyes look like they are about to pop.

          So now that Volker is done, literally every “star witness” has verified the President’s claims.

          Schiff’s legacy … oof!

          • Majella November 20, 2019 at 5:35 pm #

            “So now that Volker is done, literally every “star witness” has verified the President’s claims.”

            Which hearings are YOU watching?

      • Majella November 20, 2019 at 5:08 pm #

        Caught in what lies?

        Provide evidence.

        • Nightowl November 21, 2019 at 11:00 am #


          No prob.

          • Majella November 21, 2019 at 6:36 pm #

            Woo! Gotcha.

          • Majella November 21, 2019 at 8:18 pm #

            Real clever of that GOP ‘lifer’ interrogator to follow up and really drive the knife home, to make him squeal like a pig and show him for the yeller-bellied sumabitch he is!

            Oh, wait…”I yield back” – dang! opportunity missed…

          • Majella November 22, 2019 at 2:18 am #


          • Nightowl November 22, 2019 at 9:17 am #



      • Majella November 20, 2019 at 6:51 pm #

        If Pompeo or anyone in the Trump Klown Kamp had anything – ANYTHING!- that would exonerate FFvCS, they’d be sprinting to the Capitol and putting their right hand up to give sworn testimony. Hmmm.

        The two ‘defense’ witnesses (that is, called by the Repubs) being Morrison & Volker, really didn’t do their cause any favors either, including an endorsement of Biden’s integrity and poo-pooing the Crowdstrike CT.

      • Majella November 22, 2019 at 2:20 am #

        Two juvenile ad hominem for the price of one.

    • Majella November 20, 2019 at 6:53 pm #

      Hickman has his own issues – a RWNJ & a QAnon booster. Sheesh.

      • Majella November 20, 2019 at 6:56 pm #

        “McIntire and Confessore suggested that Hickman coordinated with the White House to smear Vindman, noting that President Trump hinted over the weekend that information regarding Vindman’s partisanship would soon be coming out.”

      • cc rider November 20, 2019 at 8:06 pm #

        A QAnon booster? Well that changes everything on this guy then. I draw the line with QAnon. Talk about a disinformation Operation. QAnon is a textbook case. Not to mention that it serves as a “bug light for idiots”.

        • Majella November 22, 2019 at 2:16 am #

          A point of *agreement*? That wasn’t just ironic?

  63. sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 8:36 pm #

    For Janos and Alba:

    Why do we need an objective reality? Simply because without the priori assumption of an objective reality there could be no culture or civilization, and hence no framework for human development to occur, or means to raise ourselves above the animal level of existence. We would remain but ‘beasts of the field ‘…

    • sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 8:38 pm #

      Objective reality may be a construct but it is a fundamental construct without which we could not be human…

      • SoftStarLight November 20, 2019 at 1:36 am #

        Well progressives of all stripes reject objective reality. This is a major reason society is being deconstructed. If the trend is not stopped we will soon be subject to the subjective whims of every person that has an ax to grind and is either a person of color or a non-binary pansexual, etc. Oh wait, we are basically already there. Civilization is at the brink.

        • sunburstsoldier November 20, 2019 at 5:02 am #


          I would agree Civilization is on the brink except those who buy into the ‘no objective reality’ perspective represent a tiny minority of the population. And even they can’t really believe it, for if they did they could not function on a level beyond that of pure mechanical instinct. The human mind is such that if it is not growing, learning and expanding, necessarily within the context of an objective reality (and transforming its understanding of that objective reality in the process), it is either dead or stuck in a pre-human level of existence.

          Denial of an objective reality is pure fantasy, like a game of patty cake…

          • sunburstsoldier November 20, 2019 at 5:10 am #

            Western higher education has become a hothouse where all kinds of crazy, so-called ‘progressive’ ideas are being cultivated, but take such ideas out of the hothouse into the real world and they immediately begin to whither and die…

          • SoftStarLight November 20, 2019 at 12:22 pm #

            I agree with you that most of the “progressive” ideas being cultivated throughout the educational system have no grounding in reality, or only half so at best. However, the danger is that irrespective of Truth, there will be true believers who will hold onto those ideas and will do anything to protect them and project them onto the world around them.

          • cc rider November 20, 2019 at 1:19 pm #

            I just want to know which #$%&* restroom I’m supposed to use now!

          • Majella November 20, 2019 at 4:20 pm #

            cc rider – just use one with a door.

          • cc rider November 20, 2019 at 6:14 pm #

            Thanks Vagella! Bwahahahahahaha…..

            Actually, I’ve always thought the whole bathroom drama was silly……from both sides of the argument.

            You are totally right…..use one with a door. Or hell…..without a door is fine too. Depending on the bar and how much you’ve had to drink….

          • SoftStarLight November 21, 2019 at 9:03 am #

            Yes most Whites and Westerners think boundaries of any kind are silly. Some are certainly, and others are necessary for survival. However, Whites and Westerners tend to have trouble making those distinctions.

        • Majella November 20, 2019 at 7:15 pm #

          …and put the seat back down. Thank you.

          • cc rider November 20, 2019 at 8:08 pm #


          • SoftStarLight November 21, 2019 at 9:04 am #

            Ah ok, so you do discriminate after all. Funny how that works!

          • Majella November 21, 2019 at 6:37 pm #

            Huh? a complete non sequitur…

  64. BackRowHeckler November 19, 2019 at 9:10 pm #

    This whole impeachment farce boils down to the question: Who directs foreign policy, Apparachiks in the State Dept., or the President? Apparachiks seem to think they do, not the President. We found out early on its illegal for the President to enforce existing immigration law, which apparently exists within the purview of Federal Judges and ethnic pressure groups. Why even have a president if all these little fiefdoms within the Federal Government are setting the rules and running the country?


    • seawolf77 November 20, 2019 at 8:40 am #

      Foreign policy is set by the congress. That’s why Trump could not lift the Russian sanctions, which he tried to do and failed. Congress overrode him. All roads lead to Putin. It’s retarded to think that electing one man changes everything. He is president. That’s all. He is not king or emperor. He has powers allotted to him, and he has powers that are kept from him. The courts make sure of it.

      • Nightowl November 20, 2019 at 10:16 am #

        Two corrections:

        1. Congress provides oversight.

        2. The Russia Hoax is over. Mueller and Weissman found nothing criminal.

        I realize you are a troll, but the slap-downs are so easy.

        • fineline November 20, 2019 at 10:49 am #

          Obviously you are a self informed troll of your own design. Mueller was ambivalent on criminality.

          • Nightowl November 20, 2019 at 4:12 pm #

            Why was the President not charged?

            Go on, explain it to us.

          • Majella November 20, 2019 at 4:44 pm #

            Fatuous, obtuse question.

            You already know the answer, and it’s not because he wasn’t guilty of anything…there are 11 separate incidences of Obstruction cited in Mueller’s report. But, being a conflicted Republican, he chose to abide by the dubious memorandum from the DoJ of stating a position that a sitting president cannot be indicted.

          • seawolf77 November 20, 2019 at 7:57 pm #

            Thank you very much.

          • benr November 20, 2019 at 8:56 pm #

            How does one obstruct an investigation started using seriously wrong data and worse illegally derived wiretaps?
            None of you Brainiac’s can answer this one simple question.
            The Steel Dossier was all lies period end of story.

          • Nightowl November 21, 2019 at 5:05 am #


            Why was the president not charged with a crime?

          • Majella November 21, 2019 at 8:21 pm #

            Repeating nut more s-l-o-w-l-y for you:

            Fatuous, obtuse question.

            You already know the answer, and it’s not because he wasn’t guilty of anything…there are 11 separate incidences of Obstruction cited in Mueller’s report. But, being a conflicted Republican, he chose to abide by the dubious memorandum from the DoJ of stating a position that a sitting president cannot be indicted.

          • Majella November 22, 2019 at 2:13 am #

            Oh…more tumbleweeds. Clearly, you don’t bother to read reply’s with any level of basic comprehension. Should I use my rudimentary Deautsch for you?

          • Nightowl November 22, 2019 at 9:16 am #


            Why was the President not charged with a crime?

          • benr November 22, 2019 at 9:50 am #

            If there was any justice in the land anyone rolled up and charged with a crime from the Mueller investigation should be let out with time served for the simple fact the investigation was started with lies.

    • fineline November 20, 2019 at 10:46 am #

      have you not heard of checks and balances?

  65. sunburstsoldier November 19, 2019 at 9:41 pm #

    Fire walk with me”…the power of mind over matter…

    “Another splendid account of fire-walking appeared in the National Geographic Magazine for April, 1966. It was written by the Senior Assistant Editor, Gilbert Grosvenor and his wife, Donna.The Grosvenors were visiting Ceylon and heard by chance of a fire-walking ceremony in a nearby village. This ceremony was held in the private courtyard of one Mohotty, who, as a young boy, had vowed to (the god) Kataragama to walk the fire yearly if his father could be cleared of a murder charge. Sensational preliminaries led up to the annual walking. The dancers all knelt to have their cheeks, arms, and chests rubbed with sacred ash. As they stared with glazed, half-closed eyes, Mohotty forced steel skewers through each man’s cheeks. Not a drop of blood appeared, there were no indications of pain or feeling, and when the skewers were later removed, no sign of a wound could be detected. Then Mohotty’s own cheeks were pierced by attendants who next drove needles into his arms from shoulder to wrist, sank little arrowheads into his chest and stomach, lashed spiked wooden clogs securely to his bare feet, and finally, with real effort, drove fearsome hooks into Mohotty’s lower back. The hooks had ropes attached and by this strange method Mohotty pulled an enormous sledge, a kind of sedan chair, about the courtyard, the several hooks pulling the flesh quite taut. Removing the hooks left no signs of blood or wounds of any sort. When Mr. Grosvenor asked Mohotty his “secret,” the Hindu answered, “Faith.Total faith in my gods.

    The fire in the pit smouldered until long after midnight while the chanting dancers, gleaming with perspiration, circled the red-hot embers. At 4 A.M. Ed Lark, a member of the Geographic team, measured the coals with an optical pyrometer. The pyrometer registered 1328° Fahrenheit. The crowds grew still as the first young man danced across the carpet of coals, twisting his body, shuffling his feet, digging into the fire. Another followed, scooping up handfuls of embers and throwing them over his shoulders. Nearly twenty people, men, women, boys, and girls, walked the fire. Some walked it several times. Mohotty crossed four times—twice with his own young son on his shoulders. Mohotty quite willingly allowed his feet to be examined and photographed afterward. They showed no signs of any blisters or burns. The Grosvenors got back to their room long after dawn, exhausted but unable to sleep. They said they just could not digest the incredible sights they had witnessed. “What we saw was real,” they wrote, “as real as the faith upon which these believers base their immunity from pain of steel or flame.”

    From the book “Crack in the Cosmic Egg” by Joseph Chilton Pearce.

    This level of faith will do us well if we be compelled to participate in a Dark Age of societal collapse.

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    • Majella November 21, 2019 at 8:36 pm #


      In 2004, I went with a brother and his children to a resort in Fiji for a few nights.

      First night there, the youngest, aged 7 at the time, asked if he could have a bath (a common practice at home). He poured the bath unsupervised and stepped into it – well, one foot. The water was absolutely scalding! He screamed in pain. While his mother & I kept his foot under cold running water, his father raced the 1.5 kms to reception to find the resident doctor, but being after 7 pm, she’d left the premises.

      The receptionist pulled him aside and said, “Don’t worry. I will send Sebi. He’s a fire walker from Beqa (pronounced Benga) and he will see to your boy.”

      Sebi arrived a few minutes after my brother returned. Ezra’s foot was welted and red as a lobster. He was in considerable pain. Sebi proceeded to simply hold and gently squeeze his foot, rotating it in his hands for about 15 minutes. Once he was done, the foot was, I kid you not, back to normal. Like nothing had ever happened. Nothing. No blistering, no skin peel, no redness. NOTHING.

      Sebi was offered $50, but he declined it, politely. I went back to the reception afterward and spoke to the duty clerk who had brought him to our unit, and gave her the paltry token of thanks.

      I asked her what had I just witnessed? She explained that she couldn’t explain it, but did inform me, in no uncertain terms, that Sebi was going to experience all that pain he’d saved Ezra from and it would take him some days to get it all out.

      Not sure if that’s an experience we can put done to some mystical force, or just quantum physics -neither of which are understood on this dimension.

      • Majella November 21, 2019 at 8:42 pm #

        I guess what I’m getting at as well, is that – in this case – no ‘faith’ was required on Ezra’s part or anyone else there, except Sebi’s perhaps. It worked objectively in the objective dimension.

        • cc rider November 22, 2019 at 9:02 am #

          That is an amazing story!

  66. BackRowHeckler November 19, 2019 at 11:45 pm #

    Is billionaire Tom Steyer still offering a reward to whoever digs up enough dirt on the President that it can get him impeached? I’m not sure if just the act of impeachment is enough or he has to be actually removed from office. Its a pretty hefty award, in the millions. Maybe the ‘Whistle Blower’ can collect. Or Maybe Schiff himself can score a nice chunk. Is Steyer still running for president? We haven’t heard much from him lately.


    • SoftStarLight November 20, 2019 at 1:42 am #

      I think he is still in. I saw an ad for his campaign on Youtube tonight. It wasn’t very interesting so I couldn’t tell you what he said. He did make it very clear he was a Democrat and that Trump must be defeated in 2020.

    • K-Dog November 20, 2019 at 10:42 am #

      Getting enough dirt on the Donald in a world that now murders for sand.


  67. SoftStarLight November 20, 2019 at 2:01 am #

    Now to Sleep and Dreamtime. In Our dreamtime we lived in a land of Ice and Fire. We drifted on placid seas under the moonlight watching the auroras dance across the night sky. We were a million miles away from this dusky and lawless world. Let us go home again to peace and tranquility.


    • Janos Skorenzy November 20, 2019 at 5:17 am #

      I will find you there tonight. You are too good for this evil world. Thank you for coming back each morning to try and help.

      • seawolf77 November 20, 2019 at 8:17 am #

        Harry Potter you’re not.

      • SoftStarLight November 20, 2019 at 12:12 pm #

        I couldn’t imagine it any other way. After all, we will ride our horses across the Endless Steppes again one day, like we used to do so long ago when you commanded the Scythians. The molecular bond can’t be broken.

    • K-Dog November 20, 2019 at 10:39 am #

      Your comment has a certain tempo I’ve heard before:

      I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.

      • K-Dog November 20, 2019 at 10:44 am #

        ‘Placid sea’ always pings my ears.

        • SoftStarLight November 20, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

          Yes, occasionally one must leave this body and realm to understand the real nature of this body and realm.

      • Majella November 20, 2019 at 3:37 pm #

        “Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?” aka “Blade Runner”, right?

    • Majella November 20, 2019 at 6:21 pm #

      SSL – you’re kidding right? You’re promoting New Age devilry? Progressive, pagan magic? Are you so confused? Janos – you’d better have a word.

      • SoftStarLight November 21, 2019 at 9:06 am #

        Majella, God made the entire universe. Stop being so parochial and provincial. Also, where is your creative and poetic aspect?

        • GreenAlba November 21, 2019 at 10:28 am #

          Hmmm, you were explaining entropy to us, SSL, as the direct consequence of a fallen world. I was rather hoping you’d explain how the rest of the universe ‘caught’ entropy from our fallen bit, but an explanation wasn’t forthcoming.

          Do the laws of thermodynamics not apply outside our sphere of influence or have we infected the whole thing with our naughtiness?

          Feel free to respond poetically, as long as there’s a bit of science in there.

          Where did ‘God’ come from, BTW, other than from between human ears or course?

          • SoftStarLight November 22, 2019 at 12:24 am #

            Well you should feel fortunate the Lord gave you that brain between those two ears! He could have determined that we be trees or blades of grass. But here we are. Are we sure that entropy and the laws of thermodynamics operate in the universe far beyond what we perceive or know? More likely we simply assume all these theoretical laws of physics apply to the worlds we know and the worlds we dont know.

  68. K-Dog November 20, 2019 at 10:35 am #

    Seriously holy shit.

    • Majella November 20, 2019 at 3:52 pm #

      Thanks for that, K-Dog!

  69. seawolf77 November 20, 2019 at 11:40 am #

    I follow the oil market closely and considering production growth has stagnated, oil company CEO’s are warning of a massive slowdown, and world production has been on a 15 year plateau, you would think that the original peak oiler’s website would be commenting on that. Sadly, this site like most everything in America has been relegated to left/right debate, which is about as interesting as a doughnut. If you look at US production since 2010 it is a hockey stick with a small kink. That is what it will look like coming down too, and the most important part of the curve is what you don’t see i.e. keep drawing that decline from 1970 on out to 2020 and we’re at 2.5 mbpd without shale. GOM added .5 mbpd so we’ll be at 3 mbpd.
    We will lose nearly 10 mbpd in 10 years. The next 10 years. Contrast that with losing 5 mbpd between 1970 and 2010. And like Matt Simmons said back in 1970 nobody used oil. America, Canada, Europe, Japan, Russia… that’s about it. Today EVERYONE uses it. Peak shale oil is peak oil worldwide and it is here boys and girls. 50 years to get to the peak, 50 years to get to the bottom, with a side of shale there at the end.

    • capt spaulding November 20, 2019 at 11:51 am