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I was in the streets of Chicago in 1968 during the Democratic Convention. It was only a few months after Bobby Kennedy and Martin Luther King were shot to death. The “establishment,” as we called it back then, was all set to nominate Vice-president Hubert Humphrey who had started out in Washington as a Midwestern progressive firebrand but was now was broadly perceived by America’s hippie youth as a stooge and a sell-out to the evil forces running the Vietnam War.

I wasn’t exactly a protester, more like a proto-journalist, there to witness an epochal event. It was a wild three days with a lot of moiling in Lincoln Park and Grant Park, and finally out on Michigan Avenue the night of Humphrey’s awful apotheosis, where things got especially ugly and the tear gas canisters flew. But that was about it. Nobody got killed by the police, or vice-versa, and then we all went back to college (my SUNY school cost $500-a-year back then, by the bye). Nixon was the consolation prize.

Back then, it was in style to assassinate political leaders. Today it’s in fashion to assassinate police. It’s hard to imagine easier targets. Where trouble is brewing in the streets nowadays, there they stand: right out in front, easily distinguished in their uniforms. That was exactly the picture on the front page of The New York Times today: the thin blue line in Cleveland, where the Republican convention convenes this week to nominate the golden deus ex machina Donald Trump. There are few things in life one can predict with certainty, but given the grave events of recent weeks, it is hard to see how deadly gunplay might be avoided at the 2016 Republican convention.

Maybe the police will just decide to stay indoors and not present themselves as targets. Likelihood of that: not much. Ohio officials are talking about suspending the “open carry” law for the duration of the event. That would probably make for better “optics” than, say, an armed mob brandishing repeating rifles, but even if that law is suspended, it’s not hard to imagine people carrying weapons in a guitar case or a backpack. The killing meme is just on, like the deadly spirits that wafted out of Pandora’s Box.

Maybe it’s time for the Black President, Mr. Obama, to just come out and tell the black population that their grievances against the police are trumped up, shall we say: that Alton Sterling was not an upright citizen doin’ nuttin’ but a convicted felon carrying a gun, and that we still don’t know the facts about what Philando Castile was doing when he got shot in his car, and, well, he might just go back and shake off the fairy dust surrounding the Michael Brown (Ferguson) incident, the Tamir Rice (“toy” gun) incident, and all the other ambiguous situations of the past several years that have sparked the current crisis in race relations.

Otherwise, it’s beginning to look a lot like race war in America. Political and thought leaders have so far failed to conduct that fabled “conversation about race” that is such a phantom presence in the national life. It is apparently too painful to actually undertake. The pretenses about it have become ludicrous — for example Hillary Clinton’s recent utterance that “white people need to recognize our privilege,” and the fatuous calls to “come together.”

Both black and white America (especially “liberal” HRC America) might better ask themselves: why have we promoted the idea that blacks needn’t bother trying to assimilate into the nation’s common culture (such of it that actually remains)? This is what the idiotic “diversity” cult does, accompanied by the even more idiotic idea that “inclusion” is required for those who choose not to be included in that common culture. The damage from fifty years of these shibboleths ought to be obvious now. But emotions are carrying us past the moment of self-examination on any side. Perhaps that “conversation about race” can only take place after a greater convulsion, when people finally get sick of what their dishonesty has wreaked.

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689 Responses to “A Dark Prospect”

  1. shotho July 18, 2016 at 9:38 am #

    I’ve always wondered by what stretch of imagination leads one to believe that out of diversity comes unity?

    • DrTomSchmidt July 18, 2016 at 10:10 am #

      I think the line is “diversity is strength.”

      There is some truth to it, when trying to solve problems. If you have everyone thinking the same, then thoughts outside the prescribed zone don’t get mentioned.

      The Democrats are typically the party of diversity, but they are about to take a VERY non-diverse step next week when they nominate a woman, Hillary Clinton. Since 1984, the Democrats have had two women, an African-American, an Orthodox Jew, a Son of Lesbian Greek immigrants, and a robot (Kerry) on the executive ticket, while the Republicans have run with all white men except for Sarah Palin.

      Clearly, the Republicans have had the greater diversity, however. ALL Democratic candidates for President were lawyers, while the Republicans only had Bob Dole and Mitt Romney holding a law degree, the latter more usually recalled for being an MBA, like George W, Bush. Lawyers may come from different backgrounds, but they see most societal problems as things to be hammered with the law. We do not need more lawyerly dictating to us, the peons; I suspect that underlies both black frustration with the legal system, and now white frustration with the Federal government.

      • Cavepainter July 18, 2016 at 2:54 pm #

        Its not an issue of people “thinking” alike or differently, but difference between ordering all consciousness around mystical beliefs as opposed to founding social order more aligned with reasoned examination of empirical evidence — (Western Culture, that is). At this time Western Culture is being pulled back into the Dark Ages by the diversity cult that chooses to “believe” that people living by 9th Century mystical beliefs are somehow miscible into a culture that has nurtured objective reasoning from the age of the Greeks.

    • capt spaulding July 18, 2016 at 10:22 am #

      Moiling. What a great word. When I read that, it made my galluses snap. Diversity only works when you have a small minority (of any kind) in your population. They are usually accepted. It’s only when they become a significantly large minority that the trouble starts. I refer you back to the 1960’s, when Europe looked down their noses at segregation in the US. Fast forward to today, & you will see that there is plenty of racism there. It’s because the minority finally got large enough to have an impact on the society. I’m not saying that it’s right, its just the way human beings are.

      • Q. Shtik July 18, 2016 at 1:20 pm #

        Moiling. What a great word. – Capt S.


        Jim has used the word moil (in its most common dictionary sense) several times over the years but if you want a good laugh look up the Seinfeld Moil (also spelled Mohel) episode. This would be the guy who performs circumcisions.

    • uslabor July 18, 2016 at 10:52 am #

      A diverse diet is better than just always eating the same thing, I guess.

      How are we going to avoid the future that is coming our way?

      Racist or not, black or not, immigrant or not, police or not,

      this is a class struggle.

    • Pogo July 18, 2016 at 12:41 pm #

      A compelling question, shotho. Fred Reed, the blogger at Fred On Everything, took a shot at it earlier this year. His opinion is “Diversity is by a wide margin the worst nightmare facing the US.”


    • newworld July 19, 2016 at 12:29 pm #

      I’m all for “diversity” I’m way past scolding blacks for what they might or might not do in life. I understand the author of the blog is a honest progressive that wants to continue with the social engineering but I find it mainly a waste of everything.

      Besides what JHK I think is forgetting is that liberal whites never listen to blacks, never, they have a ready made script and that is where they stay.

  2. djc July 18, 2016 at 9:38 am #

    Great post today Jim.

    The fact that Americans need to realize the narrative of the last 50+ years is not working and needs to be replaced is becoming ever more evident and blogs like yours do a good job of expressing that fact.

    • Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 11:37 am #

      That’s why I wonder at the animosity toward Trump and Bernie. Maybe they weren’t the ideal ones, but they were the only ones.
      Bernie, however, has sold out. Was free stuff for his kids truly all he was after?

  3. malthuss July 18, 2016 at 9:49 am #

    “Maybe it’s time for the Black President, Mr. Obama”—

    He is NOT ‘Black’.

    • DrTomSchmidt July 18, 2016 at 9:54 am #

      America’s first half-white President, perhaps ;-)?

    • K-Dog July 18, 2016 at 10:19 am #

      No he is not. He is a white American who had a black African father who enjoyed al the benefits of being born into a family with above average resources. Considering him black is racist.

      • K-Dog July 18, 2016 at 10:19 am #

        all the benifits

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      • uslabor July 18, 2016 at 10:43 am #


      • JimInFlorida July 18, 2016 at 11:34 am #

        Obama is a mulatto which places him in the Black camp. The standard for being White is inherently much stricter than for brown or black races. Not a damn thing wrong with that.

        The group psychology for HEALTHY White populations features a low tolerance of encroachment by incompatibles. “Racism” is the CORRECT IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE of the White body-politic. “Tolerance” will work as long as the incompatibles abide by the rules of their host body and do not cross certain boundaries i.e. mudsharking and loansharking.

        However, the past 50 years have been an exercise in academic browbeating, cultural torture, and political coercion to force an alien mindset into Whites that DEMANDS they not only accept, but embrace, the unacceptable. Including the pollution of traditional White sensibilities and identities. The goal of such pollution has been achieved, unfortunately.

        Even the ability to articulate a rejection of New Leftist social engineering has been eradicated. Hence, the psychological dissonance of knowing that White space has been violated but, we are forbidden to form the public narrative to express it.

        • LeoH July 18, 2016 at 12:04 pm #

          Very enjoyable comment.

        • malthuss July 18, 2016 at 12:16 pm #

          The Left [including JHK] observe the ‘One Drop Rule.’

          • JimInFlorida July 18, 2016 at 6:27 pm #

            Indeed but, for entirely different reasons than Nativists or self-aware Whites!

            Oh, c’mon now about JHK. He and Duncan Crary of the old KunstlerCast enlightened me in so many ways. I will always be grateful for Jim’s masterful erudition and Duncan’s skill in bringing it out.

      • Q. Shtik July 18, 2016 at 1:00 pm #

        Culturally, Obama is as White as I am.*

        When, in his oratory, he has adopted MLK-like cadences or has, in strolling toward the first chopper, adopted a certain Black insouciant swagger, it is most certainly an affectation for political purposes.

        * Before I croak I intend to have one of those DNA tests done to find out just how White I am.

        • Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 1:24 pm #

          I read a review of those tests by a guy who’s really into genealogy.
          He’s gotten slightly different results from three different tests, also they are showing a strain of ancestry that he isn’t finding in his research.
          I was thinking about one of those as well. Like Fauxcahontas and many other Americans, according to family lore (but not cheekbones) we have Indian blood (yeah, I said Indian, feather, not dot) which isn’t evident in the family tree. I’d like to be able to confirm or disprove that.

        • elysianfield July 18, 2016 at 4:04 pm #

          What is the definition of white? Don’t know, but you know it when you see it….

          • JimInFlorida July 18, 2016 at 6:42 pm #

            What is the definition of PORN? It can’t be defined but, we all know it when we see it!

            “White” is the general name for the Caucasian races, the obvious genetic signs, and historical customs. Typical groups include Anglo-Saxons, Celtic, Nordic, and those Slavs who have not interbred with the Mongols or Asians.

            Jewish social engineering is designed to muddy up the gene pool and create mass anomie. Thereby making any distinction between Whites and black/brown races politically forbidden.

            The targets are 90-100% White population centers and any self-identity that expresses itself. The process is atomization, destruction of race identity, promotion of mudsharking, and homosexuality. The end game is to leave high-level Ashkenazi and Zionist Jews at the top of the pile. Not by merit but by default.

    • Petro July 18, 2016 at 3:53 pm #

      I always thought it was unseemly of him to mark his census form as black, as was reported, instead of “biracial”—which was a category that was fought for and finally included. I thought it was a slap at his white mother and white grandparents who raised him, took him on trips, helped him with his homework, etc. I believe he saw his African father exactly once, growing up.

      But we get to call ourselves what we want, right? So who am I to say?

  4. pequiste July 18, 2016 at 9:56 am #

    The dark prospect project has been brewing over the last 50 years since the administration of the demon president Lyndon Baines Johnson.

    Everything he instituted was guaranteed to upset the natural progession of the Black civil rights movement in America.

    Integration of the military and schools was difficult enough for the 1950s but was proceeding in a rather orderly fashion.

    Mass culture also had function of being a social integrator. Black musicians competed favorably with whites in making popular music; professional sports was showcasing black athletic achievements. Cinema portrayed blacks as citizens of worth.

    Now with birds coming home to roost of the massively failed LBJ Great Society – paternalism at its worst: Welfare, hand outs, competition from a burgeoning Latino population – the effects are clearly demonstrated in an alienated, angry, violent Black subculture.

    This is reinforced by cultural industries – music, film. internet – that Black culture has been historically and continually victimized and the only response now is violence. See Ice-T infamous video Cop Killer among a ton of other anti-social expressions of hate.

    Then to turbo charge the engines of societal decay we (business and government) had the fantastic idea to send all the manufacturing jobs overseas which had the effect of preventing any escape from the permanent underclass and destroying once great cities.

    All this pathology may wind up requiring martial law to keep the lid on or Helter Skelter will be on.

    • shabbaranks July 18, 2016 at 10:12 am #

      Well said.

    • K-Dog July 18, 2016 at 10:32 am #

      “Then to turbo charge the engines of societal decay we (business and government) had the fantastic idea to send all the manufacturing jobs overseas which had the effect of preventing any escape from the permanent underclass and destroying once great cities.”

      And there was not a single peep from white America about the loss of manufacturing jobs until white collar jobs were also loaded into the global shipping container for export. Now ‘Trump’ appeals to a disenfranchised America who now experiences a taste of the same disenfranchisement that has been ladled onto black America’s dinner bowl for decades.

      • DrTomSchmidt July 18, 2016 at 12:32 pm #

        I guess you missed the whole “Buchanan brigades” thing in 1992? That was lowercaste whites revolting against the patrician Bush.

        I assume you’ve read the Archdruid’s Donald Trump and the politics of resentment, which makes the class struggle foremost in this election. If not, read an amazingly clear thinking survey of the Trump phenomenon.

        Interesting, Trump has gone out of his way NOT to target blacks, while complaining about Mexicans. If he is able to take the 25% of the black vote that recognizes an appeal to the “unprotected” class in the USA, he will win in a landslide.

        • JimInFlorida July 19, 2016 at 9:41 am #

          If Trump plays the New Deal card and couches his rhetoric in terms of class struggle, then he can tell Blacks that their problems stem from the loss of their factory and farm jobs.

          As it is now, Blacks are being told that their civil right to marshal the power of the courts, in order to extract booty from alleged oppressors, is in danger. The “conversation about race” is nothing more than a veiled demand for Whites to unconditionally apologize and confess to every charge leveled against them. Of course, none of that will put one Black man back to work; making good union wages.

          That’s how Trump has to woo the Black vote. White voters won’t object because they are no longer being targeted for a shake down. Whites may also benefit by the return of factory and farm jobs. A win for Blacks, a win for Whites, and the Top 1% has to cough up the difference. Plus, they WON’T be able to pass that cost down the line.

    • Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 11:46 am #

      requisite, that’s good.
      My personal observation was that things started to change for the worse around 1980. I know that MTV was a factor, with their decision to feature “real” black culture, i.e. misogynistic violent criminality. The odd part is, black people I knew were no more pleased with this than white people. MTV was a creation of the white-owned media, and white executives who made decisions about what to play were not drawing from any of their real-life experiences with black people. They did not know any average black people.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 2:02 pm #

        White? A few Jewish Billionaires own the Media and routinely show their deep animus against Western Culture. Try harder.

        Obviously this situation has to change. We cannot survive with this narrow a range of opinions being presented. Media ownership has to be diversified with Anti-Trust legislation. Jews must lose some of their power if America is to have any future at all.

        • Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 2:54 pm #

          They ARE white. My point is that what is portrayed as black culture comes from white people who do not know any average black people, to the detriment of both black and white working and middle class Americans.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 7:37 pm #

            So that’s why they present Whites, particularly White Men in such a horrible light, in both movies and advertising?

        • newworld July 19, 2016 at 12:32 pm #

          You are more effective when in defense, much less effective when you go with the 1960s white nationalist offense/conservative talking points.

          All white nationalists have done in America is drive white people away and make the ADL and SPLC richer than god himself.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2016 at 1:33 pm #

            Well obviously the World is made out of lies and by always going with the half truths we have allowed ourselves to lead to where we are – the edge of a precipice.

            Doesn’t it matter how people think of themselves? Is a blonde Muslim White? Maybe genetically, but in his heart he has no allegiance to Western Civilization. Same with the Jews: they simply don’t identify with us. In fact, they identify as against us.

      • kyoto motors July 18, 2016 at 5:46 pm #

        your moniker escapes the general american consciousness. are you a Quebec separatist living in the US? or just looking in on the action from north of the border?

        • pequiste July 19, 2016 at 1:07 am #

          Montrealais/Montrealer fascinated by the deconstruction of centralized government & authority.

          La Belle Province has a curious history of being a grand colony of La Regime Ancien France and was conquered by Les Maudits anglais at the Battle of Quebec 1759 when Wolfe defeated Montcalm on the Plains of Abraham (both died in the engagement.)

          Pierre Valliere penned a rather famous provocative book in the Sixties “Negres Blanc d’Amerique.” The French Canadians were treated as second class citizens in their own land for two centuries by Anglophone Quebeckers. Then came the Quiet Revolution with some over exuberance from the FLQ and Rene Levesque (quite the ardent nationalist and colourful politician.)

          The Quebec nationalist movement is problematic for Ottawa and the Bloc Quebecois, the “national” party likes it that way – they get many concessions from Parliament
          and the rest of Canadians don’t like it one bit.

          Similarly, the states of the former Confederacy of the United States have much to learn about regional/cultural unity and getting strong politically in the national government with a regional party. It would work very well here in the USA I think.

          Does Quebec deserve to be its own country? If the folks are willing to fight for it (economically/culturally/politically/militarily?) yes, sure – doesn’t everyone deserve their own country?
          Quebec could be the “Switzerland” of North America.)

          Problematic for the Quebec nationalist are the First Nations – Iroquois, Mohawk, Algonquin and Inuit nations (Indians.
          ) Don’t they deserve their own nation(s) too? Great peoples the Indians of North America – land claims for many Tribes transcend the current US – Canada border. Problem for Unkle Sam too.

          The dynamic is multi-dimensional and the rich history of Canada integrates wonderfully with the modern nationalist movement. Love to keep my finger on the pulse of this ongoing low-level conflict, as it is among the most civil, indeed almost polite, in the entire world.

          Montreal is a great town although a bit chilly in the winter.
          Quelque arpents de neige indeed.

          J’aime Quebec.

  5. hmuller July 18, 2016 at 9:59 am #

    “Well tanned” maybe; I think the term “mulatto” is politically incorrect.

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  6. AKlein July 18, 2016 at 10:06 am #

    The real root cause of the “race problem” in the US is actually the same for most of the other woes of the country. Namely, that every problem or issue is seen as a “revenue opportunity” by the grifter class. Isn’t that the basic cultural problem we now have? We have financialized everything. I’m pretty sure “race relations” has spawned a vibrant “industry”. The last thing such an “industry” would want is an actual solution. Isn’t the “diversity industry” a form of the “race relations” industry. Every major corporation in the country has a diversity office of some sort, replete with staff and a project agenda requiring, more than anything, a steady stream of funds. The narrative of the past 50+ years has been in service to that, not addressing any real structural problems average black people really are facing. Many of these structural problems now face all of us, regardless of race, by the way.

    • shabbaranks July 18, 2016 at 10:18 am #

      Race relations have spawned a huge diversity industry. Offices of racial and gender equity, masters degree programs in “community redevelopment” etc, etc, populate America. Layer upon layer of government spending is added to “fix” the problem.

      • Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 11:53 am #

        The race ‘issue’ is used to keep the Higher Ed racket afloat. They only get away with charging more than anyone can afford by keeping up the narrative that black Americans need special help in affording college because of the rigged racist system. It’s rigged all right, but not in the way people think.
        Look at the behavior of those SUNY students on the CDTA bus, and worse, look at the behavior of the other students AND the administration when presented with an obvious and unbelievable lie.
        None of those dopes belong at any college. The girl who clearly had one white parent at least made a tearful apology, but the other two evil violent brats are sticking to their story and making the public pay for a trial.

    • orbit7er July 18, 2016 at 10:21 am #

      Race since its use by the plantation owners has always been used by the rich to divide the 99% against each other and thus distract from the fraud and robbery by the 1%.
      Glad to see that noticed!
      We all suffer from the endless Wars costing $1 Trillion per year, Peak Oil and Limits to Growth, the relentless and increasing ravages of Climate Change. Hey guess what? A global warming induced hurricane swamps ALL boats! Including the weatlhy’s yachts!

      • lateStarter July 18, 2016 at 2:49 pm #

        It is too bad that the disenfranchised are picking the wrong target. How messed up is it that a black ex-military type is taking out a black cop? They should be setting up shop in Manhattan, but I doubt they would ever get close enough to score. Only in the movies.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 2:08 pm #

      Yes, the Bible says in the last days there will be Avarice beyond all imagining.

      And the Big Corporations love diversity because they get the “pick of the crop” while others get the many dregs. And if you don’t play you don’t get government contracts.

      AND the Diversity Cult is a prime means of social control of Whites. Get out of line and you don’t have a job anymore. So the people who could have reformed America were either put out on the street or afraid to do anything because of it, not just for themselves but often for their families. Europe is cracking down on an all ready draconian speech code: now people who say anything against Muslims may face jail sentences and not just fines.

      • Q. Shtik July 18, 2016 at 5:22 pm #

        Yes, the Bible says in the last days there will be Avarice beyond all imagining. – Janos


        Please cite chapter and verse.

        • JimInFlorida July 18, 2016 at 6:51 pm #

          Read the Book of James for starters.

          Then Psalms 73. Pay special attention to the 12th verse. Woe unto the rapacious and avaricious when the 17th verse comes around!

          Then Luke 6:24-26.

          That should get you started.

    • shotho July 18, 2016 at 8:03 pm #

      Very well said , Klein; the financialization of everything, including religion. Nothing sacred anymore!

  7. Ken Hall July 18, 2016 at 10:10 am #

    It would appear that you are doubling down on your opine of last week, to paraphrase: “blacks have no legitimate reason to believe they are repressed here in the land of the free and home of the brave”.

    I live in New York’s North Country roughly 150 miles North West of Saratoga Springs and I observe a very similar mindset in the folks hereabouts, today, to that which I observed when I was stationed at England AFB, Louisiana in 1965. I would find it very difficult to comprehend a huge difference in the mindset of the white folks down there relative to those up here.

    • James Howard Kunstler July 18, 2016 at 10:46 am #

      Why did you put this in quotes?
      “blacks have no legitimate reason to believe they are repressed here in the land of the free and home of the brave”.
      You give the wrongful impression that I said it.
      I said no such thing.

      • Q. Shtik July 18, 2016 at 11:42 am #

        Well, let’s give Ken Hall partial credit, he did say “to paraphrase.” There are many who don’t understand the proper use of quotation marks.

        • Florida Power July 18, 2016 at 1:40 pm #

          Further down the thread Gasman writes:
          “Idea’s have consequences.”

          (Quotation marks mine).

          We see here an example of the mis-used apostrophe, a phenomenon that has occurred with increasing regularity. I first noticed it at a sales meeting in 1998: “Our’s.”

          Indeed, a lot of folks have trouble with the difference between “its” and “it’s” and maybe this is the source of confusion.

          It is not as bad as the use of nominative case following a preposition, typically buried in a string of nouns culminating in the errant pronoun. Shades of Robert Shaw slowly scratching his fingernails down the blackboard in Jaws! I am convinced this began in minor broadcast television markets and now has spread to the mainstream to our detriment.

          I know some posters discount Q’s work as pedantry. I am willing to overlook obvious typos and even lesser flaws of ignorance but we must have standards somewhere, sometime!

          Then again, I chanced to hear Michael Savage replaying a rant against rappers: “I know 50 words of English and I have $10 MILL in the bank…”

          So maybe it’s all for naught?

          Or is that “its?”

          • Sean Coleman July 20, 2016 at 12:32 pm #

            The late English journalist, Keith Waterhouse, promoted the AAAA, The Association for the Abolition of the Aberrant Apostrophe. Greengrocers were the chief offenders in the early days.

            The ‘celebrity’ Johnny Essex is famous for having a watch worth several thousand pounds and not being able to tell the time. I don’t know if that is true though.

      • Ken Hall July 18, 2016 at 12:57 pm #

        As Q. Shtik indicated I was attempting to indicate the quote was my paraphrase of what I interpreted your contentions were this and last week. My apology for my inappropriate use of punctuation; my only excuse is that I am but a retired engineer in my mid 70’s.

      • kyoto motors July 18, 2016 at 5:51 pm #

        So for the record, do you acknowledge a degree of repression and inexcusable police brutality — that has by some accounts been going on long before the advent of hand-held video and social media? And is your suggested response really a matter of conforming and otherwise “assimilating” into a mainstream culture that is led by a kleptocracy, run on fraud and is over-invested in a living arrangement without a future (and I paraphrase)

    • Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 11:56 am #

      Probably because black Americans aren’t repressed relative to them. Why do people look down on white people of the lower classes and then lecture the rest of us on proper mindset toward black people?

      • djc July 18, 2016 at 1:02 pm #

        Good point. This is probably one of the main reasons Trump will win in November.

  8. K-Dog July 18, 2016 at 10:14 am #

    With ever less to go around those who have been left out of the American way of life find they have little common culture worth assimilating into. Meaningful work is not available and the two demagogues of choice, Hillary and Trump have nothing to offer black Americans but more inequality poverty and neglect. It is not surprising that those with the most anger and the least impulse control at the bottom of the social pile now act out violently. If white America was as disenfranchised as black America has been in the last fifty years then violent attacks on authority by dim witted white nimrods would be happening in all 50 states every damn day.

    JHK talks big about wanting to have a conversation about race but what conversation would he have exactly? It could never be a reality based conversation because then serious efforts would have to be made to return all the off-shored jobs which were stolen from black America back on to American soil. That won’t happen.

    Black America was excluded from the globalized American dream and now there is hell to pay because of it. That is the honest conversation and it is a conversation far too honest for America to entertain. There is no mystery about what is really going on now unless one has an agenda to deny the truth and blame the victim. Black America is finding out about the ‘Long Emergency’ first-hand. They did not have to read the book.

    When an adult lambastes and lectures a recalcitrant youth it can be called a conversation. It is an inappropriate label under the circumstances but no more inappropriate than the conversation JHK apparently wants to have with black America here.

    • James Howard Kunstler July 18, 2016 at 10:55 am #

      K-Dog says: Black America was excluded from the globalized American dream and now there is hell to pay because of it.

      The question I ask is how much blacks have self-excluded themselves in recent times. Last year I made the suggestion that teaching spoken and written English ought to be the first priority in public education. That’s part-and-parcel of preparing people to participate in the common culture. Of course, I was branded a “racist” for suggesting that.

      • K-Dog July 18, 2016 at 12:06 pm #

        The question I ask is how much blacks have self-excluded themselves in recent times.

        People of all colors come in all flavors. You are correct, they do exclude themselves in large numbers. Many adopt a victim mentality which is no good for themselves or anyone else. Many are also racist and their own blinding hatred maintains unhealthy exclusion. Those who harbor such views and behaviours are a bane on their more rational brothers and sisters who want a good life for themselves and everyone else.

        Spoken and written English ought to be top priority in public education. Branding you a racist for suggesting that is totally irrational. Being able to communicate well is a cornerstone of any culture worth having.

        Unfortunately we now live in a video age that will be with us until the lights go out. Because of this I fear the ability to communicate well is becoming a lost art. Perhaps the bombastic accusation against you for wanting people to communicate well is an expression of this sad truth.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 2:14 pm #

          Eric Holder wanted to have such a conversation with Whites, to lambast as us racists and moral inferiors while we stood in shame with our heads down.

          Sorry Kdog, those days are over. We’re not going back to your Plantation. And Whites lost lots of jobs to globalization too. But you don’t care about your own people – no points. The big points in the Virtue Signaling game only come from minorities.

          • messianicdruid July 19, 2016 at 11:57 am #

            “…without natural affection…” – another symptom of the end of the world system.

      • malthuss July 18, 2016 at 12:20 pm #

        The book, ‘Alien Nation’, notes that in NYC school was being taught in 130 languages.
        And that book was 25? years ago.

        • pequiste July 18, 2016 at 2:53 pm #

          Caliphornia currently has voting in 10 language with many many more to follow.

          That’s building a common American experience and culture Jerry Brown. (Like the evil fuckers in charge give a damn about anything but their own gratification and glorification.)

          On a positive note I think that Dark Prospect would be a lovely name, sort of like Prospect Park, Brooklyn, N.Y.C. or Nevsky Prospekt, St Petersburg, Russia, for main crossroads/intersection for the multitudes of MLK Boulevards in the USSA. Helps for navigation away from the hood.

        • Q. Shtik July 18, 2016 at 4:06 pm #

          If anywhere near true, that is truly ridiculous.

      • Mark Weiss July 18, 2016 at 12:33 pm #

        You are not a racist for suggesting Standard American English (SAE) is the glue which bonded American culture. In fact, SAE is the first class ticket into a potentially prosperous life. This was true until the diversity claptrap infested our institutions.

        If you insist on naming your child outside of traditional norms, speak non-SAE at home, then good luck with your lifetime accomplishments in ‘music’ or professional sports.

        It is my belief that our government can dump billions of dollars into anti-poverty programs but for naught if you do not have an English name and speak it well.

        • Florida Power July 18, 2016 at 6:15 pm #

          I run across many Indian-born engineers who typically retain their names unless tres outré, in which case they just use “Mike.”

          Interestingly given the discussion here the Brahmins view us white folks as somewhat inferior to them at least in terms of mathematical acumen if not depth of culture. Golly gee, racism!

          As the Baton Rouge shooter so eloquently put it with regard to his brothers, “these Arabs, these Indians don’t give two fucks about us.”

          • JimInFlorida July 19, 2016 at 9:56 am #

            Having studied the Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita, and some of the Vedas, I can understand the contempt that the Brahmins have towards ZOG Amerika’s mass anomie, polluted culture, and penchant for self-inflicted wounds.

            But, the Brahmins have no right to cast such condescension on us as their own country of India has fallen FAR FAR FURTHER from the glory days of the Peacock Throne than America has fallen from the Happy Motoring days.

            Brahmins, fix your own damn country first! Then you can sneer at Wal-Mart McAmerika to your heart’s content.

      • WannaBleave July 18, 2016 at 1:18 pm #

        James, you are so right on the issue of language and whether Minorities actively self-sabotage.

        I am a big believer in assimilation. That is how my ancestors succeed in America and even today it is key for minority groups.

        We all have to do some amount of “go along to get along” for a functional society. As a gay man, I only succeed once I learned to “play along” with heteronormative world. That is how it works and has always worked.

        Here’s where I agree with you: even as a minority and liberal… I find myself annoyed by “press 1 for English” and people that speak Ebonics yet want to be taken seriously.

        Success comes to those that are not just intelligent but can manage reasonable social interaction. I’ve heard it called “Emotional Intelligence” to compliment raw IQ. The concept rings true for me.

        BTW – Race war has been the end goal of many domestic militias for years now… maybe they will get their way now.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 2:16 pm #

          That’s the French mistake: to glorify their language above race and culture. Thus the imported all kinds of Blacks from Francophone Africa. Those people never assimilated and never will. Language is not the whole of culture and by no stretch of the imagination does it trump race in importance.

          • shotho July 18, 2016 at 8:16 pm #

            Language is the basis of culture, pure and simple. Nothing comes close to importance in building a culture than language. A black man in France is well accepted if he can navigate the intricacies of the French language with ease.

          • JimInFlorida July 19, 2016 at 10:16 am #

            Speaking French can no more make a Moroccan a Frenchman than me holding a $100 bill will make me an employee of the Federal Reserve.

            The French language is an organic language that grew out of centuries of WHITE EUROPEAN experience, starting with the Roman occupation of Gaul and many concurrent tribal evolutions. Thus, French is a WHITE LANGUAGE and is the EFFECT arising from the racial CAUSE.

            I smell a Euro-quisling messing around in France’s modern history. If you were to ask a Frenchman of the 19th century whether a black Algerian who spoke French was every bit the Frenchman he was, he would be quite insulted! This disconnect of the French language from the race that begat and nurtured it for centuries, smells like the unforeseen fruits of DeGaullism finally ripening.

      • Q. Shtik July 18, 2016 at 3:20 pm #

        blacks have self-excluded themselves – JHK


        It is so obvious as to not require stating. Visit any High School cafeteria and observe the self-segregation. Black names, Black vernacular, different than White culture by conscious choice. To act White is an invitation for a beating.

  9. orbit7er July 18, 2016 at 10:16 am #

    Oh come on now! Blacks have been here for 500 years…
    They gave us the banjo, rice cultivation in South Carolina, Jazz,
    peanut butter, the incandescent light bulb,
    Until the Civil War most of those blacks were enslaved until a brief respite after the Civil War until Jim Crow Laws and the Ku Klux Klan and its allies threw them to the back of the bus, to separate schools, parks and even water fountains until after World War II. After fighting a war against Nazis open racism the US finally began integrating the Armed Services.
    Even today a Republican Senator with darker skin still has issues with being stopped:


    Meanwhile does anyone notice that the perpetrators of these murders were sent off to the endless Wars by the Merchants of Death, the Oil Companies and the Military Industrial State?
    See this article:


    Kind of like Brzezinski and the brilliant arming of Islamic extremists like Bin Laden, Saudi fanatics and the Taliban in Afghanistan beginning in 1979. Years later 911 disaster…

    What is your problem with race, James?

    • Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 12:00 pm #

      I know way too many young white men who have issues with being stopped. Also an attractive young woman who has been pulled over on
      numerous occasions for the crime of Driving While Blonde.

      • WannaBleave July 18, 2016 at 1:21 pm #

        Your flippant, false-equivalency is annoying.

        • Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 1:29 pm #

          But it isn’t false, it is 100% true. As for being ‘flippant’ who are you, God? It’s a very serious topic to me. I don’t hate young white men, and I don’t like seeing their suffering dismissed and denied. Be annoyed.

      • stelmosfire July 18, 2016 at 2:21 pm #

        “Driving while Blonde” that would be the “Blonde Lives Matter ” movement. Permit me a little tale of this other BLM movement. A few years back while working as an EMT we went to an accident on the MA.Pike (US90) The young woman had slid off the road during a snowstorm crossing the Berkshires. The State cop on the scene name withheld (to protect the innocent) was A-American. The girl tells me “That a*****e stops me once a week as I drive home from work. He knew her car. I relate this info to the ER and it starts a shitstorm. I was interviewed by the IA div. twice. The guy skated and is still on the prowl for BLM members. It goes both ways with traffic stops.

  10. gasman July 18, 2016 at 10:20 am #

    Idea’s have consequences. The narrative in the Black community is that they built the USA and that the evil whites stole the output of their labor. They invented everything from car brakes and peanut butter to blood transfusions and got nothing in return. Through an Orwellian twist of word definitions, whites are by definition racist and blacks are righteous and cannot be racist. These are either outright lies or half truths, however the hatred that large number of blacks harbor in their hearts towards whites is something that few whites understand. We are now seeing the fruits of these Ideas.

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    • elysianfield July 18, 2016 at 11:35 am #

      “the hatred that large number of blacks harbor in their hearts towards whites is something that few whites understand.”

      Whites fail to understand, and often to their peril. I have before mentioned, on this site, that the corrosive victimhood they embrace, and their hatred of whites is “learned on their mother’s knee”. This is not a recent development, not caused by the loss of jobs, or the highly publicized excesses of law enforcement…I saw the same thing in the 60’s…their hatred of whites palpable, open and unashamed. Nothing has changed in the last five decades but the quality and ubiquity of the weapons at their disposal.

      • LeoH July 18, 2016 at 12:09 pm #

        We had the same in South Africa, must be morphic resonance.

      • Ken Hall July 18, 2016 at 2:10 pm #

        I believe that you confuse the color of the skin of those who hate who the most. I was drafted and joined the USAF in Feb64, stationed in central Louisiana in Sep64 where I worked with and called my friends many black and Hispanic GI’s and I had virtually no contact with folks other than lily white folks until I entered the USAF. What I did notice was that many of the Southern white folks did not much cotton to white folks such as me, who spoke with a “Yankee” twang and in the mid 60’s they sure as hell did not much cotton to black folks unless you call forcing USAF military members, with families awaiting on base quarters, to live in segregated ghettos; pretty much as many poor black folks are treated today in the fine cities of the USA.

        To this day many white folks living south of the Mason Dixon Line harbor intense dislike of “Northerners/Yankees” because they lost the US Civil War, which they started, and to this day they call it “the War of Northern Aggression” not the US Civil War and therein lies one of the major factors for their intense hatred of black folks because “THEIR” black folks, otherwise known as “SLAVES” had the temerity to turn on their fine and compassionate “OWNERS” and fight along side the Yankees. Now there is a message that has been passed from generation to generation in the South “those GD N’s helped those GD Yankees whip us and don’t you ever forget that!”

        As soon as the US Army was pulled out of the South (1876/77) they started passing the JIM CROW laws which in effect brought slavery back to the South, via POLICE actions, for the next 85/90 years until one of their own LBJ pushed the Equal Opportunity, Equal Rights or Civil Rights Act through Congress in 1964.

        I am certain there are black folks who do not like white folks but I would bet my life that there are a hell-of-a-lot more white folks who do not like black folks. Try an Einstein thought experiment and think about how your families concepts of right and wrong would have been molded had you as a white person been born into a family who had been purportedly given their freedom, from let’s say black folks, as the result of a War. Think about them effectively returned to slavery within 10 years a slavery to which folks with the responsibility and authority to correct same, denied the existence of for another 85/90 years. Think you would see things the same way you do today? Not likely.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 2:24 pm #

          The South had every moral right to leave just as Britain had the moral right to leave the EU. Britain also had the legal right. Some say the South had the legal right as well.

          After the War, huge gangs of Blacks roamed the South looting, killing and raping. The White Southerners were laughed at by the Union authorities when they asked for justice. So they took matters into their own hands – and triumphed in the end with some help from decent men in the North who were horrified at the treatment they had received.

          There is a lot of prejudice against Yankees in much of America. They won the War but lost the peace. Red America is the South now for all intents and purposes.

        • Florida Power July 18, 2016 at 6:24 pm #

          “I am certain there are black folks who do not like white folks but I would bet my life that there are a hell-of-a-lot more white folks who do not like black folks.”

          Not sure you’d win that bet, whatever “like” means, even if it were adjusted for relative populations. The fact is racism, or racialism, is innate. Can we begin our honest conversation with that axiom?

          As for your History of The South,it’s a lot more complex than you think, and what existed in 1960 is gone with the wind.

        • shotho July 18, 2016 at 8:26 pm #

          I was born and raised in Central Louisiana in the fifties and sixties and much of what you say is true of those times; the white racism was palpable and real. The era of the sixties and seventies was very painful for the white population and the residue of those times is still present. However, the strides that have been made by both races in overcoming prejudice all over the South is truly remarkable; probably something between races that has never been accomplished as fast and sure in all of human history.

  11. gasman July 18, 2016 at 10:22 am #

    By the way the first patent on peanut butter was in the 1870’s by JH Kellogg, not GW Carver

    • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 2:25 pm #

      The whole Blacks created everything is a blatant scam targeted at hard core White Liberal Dummies.

    • shotho July 18, 2016 at 8:27 pm #

      I don’t really care who patented it, but kudos to him/them – the delicacy closest to heavenly developed by man.

  12. dweebus July 18, 2016 at 10:22 am #

    There are a few balloons here that I think need popping.

    First of, the idea that there is a common culture. There ain’t. There hasn’t been for a very, very long time. If fact, there probably wasn’t from the inception of the Republic, when a concious decision was made to bifurcate the society. On one end, you had the landowners, propertied men of means and a propertied merchant class who had the vote, who were “qualified” to direct the affairs of the nation. On the other were indentured servants (the dispossed vagrant commoners of Britain), black africans, and natives, and women. Mexicans were added later to the list.

    The lived experience of those folk, both historical and present, is worlds apart from that of the suburban middle class family and the elite. They recieve very few of the benefits of late stage industrialism and bear most of the costs. The idea that they, whether they are trailer trash or an unban black, will buy into a fiction called the American Dream, work hard, and play by the rules, you know the typical bullshit, is laughable.

    Even if Obama were to tell the black population that their greivances were trumped up, they would not believe him. Any cred he had with the black community would go up in smoke. He would be an Uncle Tom. Whether the individual incidents may be ambiguous, a common experience in the black community is to be yanked over by the police for “doin nuttin'”, regularly.

    There is a hell of alot of historical baggage here mixing with current experience. Meanwhile the currents of our predicament (energy, evironmental degradation, finance) are bearing down on us like a freight train.

    We are sitting on a crate of old, sweaty dynamite. An explosion may be a foregone conclusion.

    • K-Dog July 18, 2016 at 10:41 am #

      Well said, the common culture JHK imagines is a culture which obeys and benefits from the social contract. As the social contract was never extended to disenfranchised Americans in the first place there is no common culture to which they can assimilate.

      • James Howard Kunstler July 18, 2016 at 10:58 am #

        You are both incorrect to suggest there is no common culture and no social contract. It is tattered but it is still there. We are not living in anarchy, at least not yet. — JHK

        • dweebus July 18, 2016 at 12:22 pm #


          Thanks for responding directly. If culture is the arts and intellectual achievement of a society, regarded collectively, please define for me this common culture to which we all ought to subscribe. Now, I ain’t a huge hip-hop fan. I swing more alt-rock and bluegrass, but my musical tastes are pretty eclectic, so I dabble.

          Back in the day, NWA had the huge hit “Fuck the Police!”. Ice Cube wrote the song after they had been visiting out in front of the studio and got rolled up by the police, in front of the producer, for yes, doing nothing.

          Contrast that with the nonsensical Toby Keith song “Courtesy of the Red, White, and Blue”. (popular with wanna be rednecks with $40,000 trucks) So these people may as well be screaming at each other across the Grand Canyon. Hell, they don’t even speak the same dialect.

          As far as the social contract, the unwritten rule is th at if you abide by the norms of society, if you follow the rules, you get to make a living. That is simply no longer true. The post war era boom is long gone, constrained by depletion, globalization, and laissez- faire. Now, if you are born poor, whether in Casper, WY or Baltimore, you most likely stay that way.

          The relief valves provided by welfare, education, and so on have been cut, and cut, and cut. The vaunted welfare reform shoved through by the neoliberal Slick Willy, cuts you off after a 5 year cap. Since most of the money is block granted, the lion’s share goes to shit such as “marriage classes” to placate the evangelicals, because, obviously poverty is a character defect.

          So whether you are an Indian on Pine Ridge, or an ex coal miner in KY, or a black man Detroit, or a Mexican tomato picker in FL, poor, is poor, and no matter how many rules you follow, your still poor. So when the police pull you over again, search your car, frisk you, and are just generally a class A asshole (I think police academies have a class titled “Asshole 101: being a dick in any given situation) you might pipe off, you know, resist a bit. Then if you are any shade lighter than a brown paper bag, you go to the joint. If darker, there is a chance you get beat down or shot.

          BTW, your suggestion that proper written and spoken English be taught is not racist. However, dialect is not a defect. Some of us are taught to feel that way, though. I speak in the vernacular of the white ranchers and oil field trash of CO and WY. My mother, a former speech pathologist, says I have a ‘typical Midwestern dipthong.” But I have learned to turn my dialect off in business settings. You know, to “pass”, to never mention my white trash roots in polite company. It is tiring.

          There is a telling anecdote in Joe Bageant’s book, Rainbow Pie. I don’t have it handy, and I am too lazy to look, so I will paraphrase.

          He was in a bar in Hollywood, had one shot bourbon too many, and overheard two upscale white professionals lamenting about how they could not find an appropriate mate. So being a little drunk, he asked them “Would you marry a girl from a trailer park in West Virginia?” Of course, they said no. The reason: “too many cultural differences.” When he asked them, if she were good looking, and really, really fun, would they screw a trailer trash girl from ‘bama, they answer was yes.

          So as long as the underclass, white, black, or otherwise can service you (fucking, fixing your car) they are tolerable to the elites.

          Otherwise, we are fucking zoo animals.

          Now, what again is this common culture of which you speak?

          • Florida Power July 18, 2016 at 2:07 pm #

            ” if you are any shade lighter than a brown paper bag, you go to the joint. If darker, there is a chance you get beat down or shot.”

            Correction — per the African-American Harvard economics professor who investigated that notion and found that while the police are more likely to “touch” (cuff, beat down etc.) persons of color in fact they are more likely to shoot white people.

            He intended to prove the opposite but the numbers, unfortunately or not depending on your point of view, do not lie.
            He said it was the biggest surprise of his career.

            it is so important a finding that the mainstream media has apparently deep-sixed it.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 2:29 pm #

            On his Reality TV show Trump immediately fired a guy who referred to himself as White Trash. Just one more reason to vote for him. Decent people have pride. Never trust a man who trashes his own, much less himself.

          • Cavepainter July 19, 2016 at 12:53 am #

            Well, since you asked (and I’m grieved that public education has been so eviscerated of its foremost purpose — preparation of the citizen for the role of citizen in a democratic republic), the aim wasn’t to homogenize all into a common culture, but, rather, to instill principles of government whereby society could be ordered beyond tribal distinctions — bloodlines, ethnicity, race, etc., etc. It was an idea that had incubated for nearly three thousand in Western Culture. The argument for public education was that democracy couldn’t work without a citizenry educated to those principles and oath bound to uphold them beyond any distinctions, one to another, that could be made otherwise. I learned this in 8th grade civics class, 1951-52. The drafters of our nation’s founding documents were all students of the Enlightenment, and what they left us (and which now we’re giving up) is one of the greatest achievements of humanity.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2016 at 1:41 pm #

            Cave: Obviously the Enlightenment was mistaken about a lot of things. As Aristotle said, You never see “Man” walking down the street, but only “a” man. And he is always something I particular, a Frenchman, a Negro, etc. Never “just” a man much less “Man”.

            In trying to root out everything natural, the Enlightenment is at war with Humanity as per the French Revolution, Communism, etc.

        • K-Dog July 18, 2016 at 12:24 pm #

          Yes it is tattered and it is still there for most of us. Certainly it is there for you and I.

          There are those for whom anarchy more closely expresses reality. The social contract does not extend to them except that sometimes nice people give them tents to sleep in.

          I’m about to go to work and I will soon be driving in luxury enjoying Dolby surround sound and full climate control past tent camps of homeless in strips of greenbelt along the western end of I-90. I ate well last night and I’m sure many of those living in these tents without job or prospect of any better life did not.

          The social contract extends to me. Does it extend to them? Are they all there because they all made bad choices or did some of them fall through the holes of our tattered social contract.

          If so for them the social contract is not tattered. For them it does not exist.

          • dweebus July 18, 2016 at 12:42 pm #

            And when said tents become an eyesore, and remind the nice folk of the untermensch within their midst, under the pretext of “public health” the Authorities roll in with the free Army Surplus bulldozers, Humvees, and APCs (courtesy of DHS) and clean ’em out.

            Homeless belong in shelters, out of sight, out of mind, don’t ya’ know…

          • Mark Weiss July 18, 2016 at 12:50 pm #

            Our political elite broke the social contract for these people.

            1) A generation ago these same people may have been working a factory floor.

            2) We had the semblance of a mental health service prior to Reagan.

            3) The War on Drugs has left many people convicted felons, with extremely limited options to provide a livelihood. The corporatization of the criminal justice service is a topic we need to speak more about here.

          • Florida Power July 18, 2016 at 2:15 pm #

            “Certainly it is there for you and I.”

            See comment above on nominative case following a preposition.

            “You and I” endure the fact that it is there.

            Certainly it is there for “you and me.”

            What I tell my co-workers is regardless of how many entities are in the string, be it you, v, w, x y, and z, etc etc etc, strip away all the others except yourself and see if it sounds right.

            “Certainly it is there for I.”

        • shotho July 18, 2016 at 8:33 pm #

          Right, if there wasn’t a core of common culture, I would not be able to drive and shop at my home away from home, WalMart. It’s going fast, but thank God there’s still something left. But, getting back to language, if some kind of common language beyond the most guttural isn’t restored, we’re in duck soup

          • dweebus July 19, 2016 at 10:15 am #

            Boy howdy, if our common culture is rooted in big box shopping, we really are up a creek without a paddle, or as you put it, in “duck soup”.

            Yes, language is important. But, in a nation as large as ours, so is dialect. It is unreasonable to expect, and I would say it is undesirable, for us to seek to purge our different dialects from our language.

            Now, I would oppose a schoolteacher, in grammar class, teaching dialect (the ebonics movement for example). But if the same teacher was teaching a creative writing class, and you were writing a short story about a pair of roofers for example, I would expect him to discourage the students from having their roofers speak in the Queen’s English. People simply don’t speak that way.

            Language is inherently emergent. It morphs over time. Sayings develop that are specific to the region or industry. For example, if I were to ask you get in the cargo bin in an aircraft, I would say “in the pit”. A ramp agent is a “pit bitch” or a “ramp tramp”. A lavatory service cart is a “honey bucket”. An air-start is a “bottle” or a “huffer” (as in huff and puff and blow the house down) depending on if it is a compressed air system or a direct flow system. Air traffic delays are referred to as “flow” and so on.

            As I said, I am not a big hip hop fan. But the rapper’s use of meter, rhyme, and assonance is sometimes simply amazing, even if they don’t use words such as “moiling”.

            So, yes we should teach proper English in the schools, and encourage its proper use in formal settings, a job interview for example.

            But we should also celebrate the various dialects out there. They add to the richness or our communication IMO.

    • zekesdad July 18, 2016 at 12:18 pm #

      “The lived experience of those folk, both historical and present, is worlds apart from that of the suburban middle class family and the elite.” What “folks” are you talking about? Black folks? They don’t all live in the ghetto you know. Some of them even live in The White House, are paid millions of dollars as athletes, or own their own media empire. In the southern city where I live there are large black and prosperous suburban areas. And no, they aren’t forced to live there. Housing discrimination has been illegal for decades.
      So, Obama shouldn’t tell certain people that their grievances are trumped up because they wouldn’t like it? Wow. I thought he was supposed to be a leader. What you’ve just described is someone who stokes people’s grievances and fans the flames of all kinds of animosities; Racial, class, etc. in other words a community organizer. The cultural divisions you cited at the founding of our republic haven’t existed for a very long time. Slavery ended 157 years ago. Jim Crow laws were repealed over 50 years ago. 2 weeks ago the Supreme Court upheld affirmative action for college admissions. Why is it that the more progress that is being made in these areas, the angrier some people get?

      • dweebus July 18, 2016 at 1:53 pm #

        Wow! Your argument boils down to: Geez, LeBron James made buckets of money and Obama is president, racism and classism no longer exist.

        Let me get my hip-waders on, ’cause you are as full of shit as an old septic tank.

        What folks am I talking about? The underclasses of this nation. The fat, diabetic, 60 year old laid off motherfucker who greets you at Wal-Mart, the tattoted chick with the nose ring who cuts your kids hair at Great Cuts, the black kid who takes your nasty dishes away at the Denny’s, the Mexican who planted the hydrangeas this year, or any of the other throw away people who allow you to live in the lifestyle to which you have become accustomed.

        Is that stoking class warfare? You betcha. But it got waged on us for years.

        Fuck, now it’s payback time, and you guys cry crocodile tears and wring your hands about how unjust it all is. I rather think the Ancien Regime felt that way as the barricades went up, and the guillotine was sharpened.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 2:36 pm #

          But you want it to continue, right? I’d solve unemployment with one stroke: send all the illegals home. Then we could work on getting the good jobs back. Vote Trump or we’re just going to get more of the same.

          Hillary wants a million Muslims. She may very well open the floodgates to the South as well. It’s a take down of Western Civilization. Don’t lose the big picture for all the details. After all, it was never going to work. The Blacks are far too different from us to ever peacefully coexist. Ditto the Mexicans.

          • lateStarter July 18, 2016 at 3:15 pm #

            What good jobs are you refering to? And who is going to pick the strawberries and the lettuce when you send ‘them’ back?

            American’s don’t want to spend $69 for a hand-crafted hammer that was made in America that is guaranteed for life, no questions asked.

            For some reason, they want a $12 hammer that lasts for 2 hours and then gets thrown in the trash.

          • dweebus July 18, 2016 at 3:17 pm #


            Hillary is letting the South in. I am voting Trump! 😉 I love the South, but for the fact it’s full of Southerners. (Texas is particullarly irritating. If God had meant Texans to ski, he’d a made bullshit white)

            Janos, I make a habit out of not engaging you, because fascism repulses me. But, just for the sake of fun, and against my better judgement, I think it is you who misses the big picture.

            Race, and racial division is just a social construct TPTB use to keep the underclasses down and maintain their hierarchy. The thing they fear most, dearest Janos, is us crackers (That wasn’t fair, I just used the word to irritate you. Lack of pride, and all that. Never mind. Whites) making common cause with blacks, latinos, etc., and breaking the status quo.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 7:43 pm #

            They hate us the most too because we always hate those whom we have wronged. Their interest, care, concern, and compassion should have gone to us first and foremost – not aliens. Of course people like you reverse that because you love the stranger and hate the kinsman. And lo and behold, you find yourselves allied with the Elite on things like Amnesty and Mass Immigration. Imagine that.

          • bentley12 July 19, 2016 at 7:43 pm #

            Donald Trump is not bringing any jobs back! LOL! Americans don’t want to pick all the fruit and vegetables, for minimum wage, after all the illegals are deported. It is impossible to deport some eleven million people anyway. Get real.

          • Good jobs: local, sustainable agriculture

            What prevents this: illegal immigration

            Short term penalty for correction: More expensive, possibly scarce strawberries from the 6000 mile oil-fed supply chain

            Long term benefit- a sovereign and sustainable distributed agriculture.

            Can you imagine a Mexico invigorated with 30 million citizens, freshly injected, with money, skills, and political cause? It could totally turn Mexico around.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 2:33 pm #

        And without freedom of association, the Bill of Right doesn’t mean anything. Obviously we have to repeal many of the Civil Rights Laws that persecute Whites in favor of minorities.

        • dweebus July 18, 2016 at 5:05 pm #

          Lord in heaven! WTF does that even mean? Jesus, sometimes you achieve a level of nonsense I thought humanly impossible. ‘Tis truly a talent.

          Q: how do you drive a Fascist insane?
          A: put him in a round room and tell him to pee in the corner.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 7:46 pm #

            What do you mean what do you mean? It’s as plain as day: I don’t have to serve you and you don’t have to serve me. Don’t piss on my head and tell me it’s rainin’ Chinamen.

            Culture is more than bread, dude. Man does not live by bread alone but by every word that proceedeth from the mouth of the Father.

          • K-Dog July 18, 2016 at 11:30 pm #

            Ah, but this one enjoys playing with himself and talking nonsense. He will spin forever.

            Circular carpets cost a lot of money.

        • bentley12 July 19, 2016 at 7:45 pm #

          If whites are persecuted, pigs can fly and I am the Pope.

  13. messianicdruid July 18, 2016 at 10:26 am #

    We need more people saying ” leave us alone” and fewer saying ” you owe me”.

  14. uslabor July 18, 2016 at 10:42 am #

    From here it looks like Obama is living The Quite White side of his heritage.

  15. uslabor July 18, 2016 at 10:44 am #

    “Maybe it’s time for the Black President, Mr. Obama, to just come out and tell the black population that their grievances against the police are trumped up……”

    Obama is no more black than he is white. It was mainly the white side of his family that raised him to be the person that is so cherished today.

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    • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 2:38 pm #

      Yes, Whites taught him to hate Whites. How sick is that?

  16. Walter B July 18, 2016 at 10:54 am #

    First of all James, I have never believed, nor do I still, that the assassination of political figures back in the 60’s was perpetrated by the common man on the street,the “lone gunmen”, and neither did the House Select Committee on Assassinations in 1976. Since the dawn of time, murder and assassinations have always been, for the most part, the work of governments themselves or political movements organized to replace existing governments. As far as I am concerned they are still the prime suspect for organized violence today. Why any ne’er-do-wells would target armed, organized paramilitary targets instead of the real bastards, the politicians, or even the unarmed populace instead is beyond my ability to understand. Especially when it always results in far greater assaults by those under attack afterwards.

    Now that our sellout scumbag “leaders” have openly spit in the collective face of America by declaring themselves above the “LAWS” that rule us, the Common Folk, they are certainly going to need to disarm the American public lest we all finally take the impetus behind the 2nd Amendment for what it was originally intended. Never waste a crisis and create one if needs be is their openly touted mantra. Why should the sellout scumbag “leadership” NOT be considered the prime suspect behind all of this my friend? They have NO excuse which I would grant them or accept should they try to deflect the blame. Welcome to the end.

    • elysianfield July 18, 2016 at 12:00 pm #

      “Why any ne’er-do-wells would target armed, organized paramilitary targets instead of the real bastards, the politicians, or even the unarmed populace instead is beyond my ability to understand. Especially when it always results in far greater assaults by those under attack afterwards ”

      The attacks on the Police now by those seeking “change” are motivated by the same logic as the assaults by the Black Panthers on police in the ’60s….and is exactly the same motivation as had Osama Bin Laden on 9/11. The rationale is to infuriate the targeted, and hopefully breed fear and loathing which would lead to over-reaction, and by extension, more foot soldiers led to the “cause” as a result of those excesses.

      The puny “blows against empire”, as with drone strikes, will eventually see us undone…it worked well for Osama, and EXACTLY has he hoped it would…a nation bankrupted, freedom corrupted, angst and ennui in the land…CAZART!

      • Walter B July 18, 2016 at 12:16 pm #

        Yes ef it all makes sense when we accept that these attacks are not by lone individuals but rather by organized, coordinated political groups, such as the Black Panthers as you so astutely pointed out. Not a big stretch either considering that we have a closet member of the Weather Underground sitting pretty in the Oval Office with Rodan waiting in the wings for her turn with us. I would say that we are screwed on all fronts!

        • elysianfield July 18, 2016 at 4:34 pm #

          The lone wolf gunman often has been deftly manipulated by organizations with hidden objectives… news, social media, agent provocateurs…it was a law enforcement imperative during the civil unrest in the 60’s to have agents imbedded in the crowds, and at the periphery of the mobs, spotters with cameras to identify those “agents of change” who knowingly manipulated and steered the crowds towards their own agenda…those identified as such were deemed “enemies of the state”, and handled accordingly.

  17. dantesque July 18, 2016 at 10:56 am #

    When it comes to emotional narratives… data: https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/police-shootings/

    This could be read several ways. At a glance, it looks like blacks are shot out of proportion to their percentage of the population. The NY Times concluded, however, that blacks are LESS likely to be shot in that particular situation (the suspect, of any race, is considered a mortal threat to the police or others). http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/12/upshot/surprising-new-evidence-shows-bias-in-police-use-of-force-but-not-in-shootings.html?_r=0

    However, blacks are far more likely to be roughed up for all other offenses, which is a common experience shared by all blacks, which adds to the narrative of unfairness.

    In general, U.S. police shoot way more people, and gun homicides are far more common, than any other country out there, which is the real story. But people, including Jim Kunstler who I admire, don’t want the complex story. It’s doesn’t emotionally resonate or fit into some “Zeitgeist” narrative about race relations.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 2:41 pm #

      Wait, you’re assuming Blacks commit crimes and traffic offenses at the same rate as Whites, right? But they don’t. Thus all such ideas are undermined at their root.

      They commit ALL crimes at much higher levels. ALL.

      • Walter B July 18, 2016 at 3:46 pm #

        That is not true sir for the biggest crimes and those crimes with the most potential for bringing down entire nations are all committed 100% by white men like Lloyd Blankfein, Bernie Madoff, Ben Bernanke, Larry Silverstein and all of the US Senators and Congressmen. The fact that most of them make deals and “laws” to “allow” such crimes to go unpunished has absolutely NO effect on the criminality of these men, their illicit institutions or the financial Doom they perpetrate upon the rest of us.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 7:51 pm #

          Ah you admitted I was right. Thank you. As for those ones, yes there’s something to that. As the song says, steal a little and you go to jail. Steal a lot and you become King. But then the crime is no longer a crime, right? A set can not be a member of itself.

          But I don’t disagree entirely. As Augustine said, without Divine Mandate, Kings are just brigands who made good. Much of human history reduces to such brigandage but not all of it. Nice to meet another person who believes in natural law at least, if not more.

          • Walter B July 18, 2016 at 8:56 pm #

            Surely the key to life, the secret to happiness is not something a man takes from someone else but something that he finds within himself. Those who live outward and not inward will never accept nor achieve what can be had by such understanding and fortunately for those of us that do, they cannot take it from us nor stop us from achieving it either now, can they. Must suck to be them…

  18. Zoltar July 18, 2016 at 10:59 am #

    Jim will persist in pretending that the issue in recent controversial deaths is that the black men killed were not model citizens. The fact is that cops are supposedly trained to deal with difficult people, and they have a variety of resources with which to do so, short of shooting them dead as a first resort. They could use Tasers, or they could retreat a safe distance and call in a dozen more cops with body armor, tear gas, tranquilizer darts, or whatever. Instead, these dumb-ass cowboys with a badge shoot first, and questions are not asked later – at least not by those empowered to discipline policemen.

    For actual journalism on this issue I recommend Matt Taibbi’s current column for Rolling Stone, followed by his book The Divide.

    For a lone gunman to undertake shooting a group of cops is a suicide mission, yet unmitigated police misconduct has persisted to the point at which black men are starting to be willing to martyr themselves over it.

    As we have recently learned, Occupy Wall Street, despite an elaborate and explicit non-violent protocol, was officially designated as a terrorist organization by the FBI. Snipers were posted at OWS events and I daresay they were not issued rubber bullets.

    You can bet that an army is in place, prepared for the worst, at both parties’ conventions this summer. It ain’t gonna be pretty.

    Jim’s hand-wringing over black behavior doesn’t seem to be fixing the problem.. I suggest that the imposition of non-lethal methods of policing and crowd control would do a great deal more to defuse what has become one hell of a mess – if it’s not already too late.

    • BeerBarrel July 18, 2016 at 11:18 am #

      The Rolling Stone for Journalism?? Absurd!

      • kansas ham on wry July 18, 2016 at 11:47 am #

        Taibbi is usually trenchant and spot on. And he’s not a glorified cheerleader for the left – he’s had jeremiads against Obama’s kid glove treatment of the banking elite and the affordable care act. Your dismissal of him because of the publication he writes for is the equivalent of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Reflexively dismiss him to your detriment.

      • elysianfield July 18, 2016 at 4:39 pm #

        Do not denigrate the Rolling Stone regarding its journalistic integrity…Hunter S. Thompson, and our Host BOTH worked for the magazine.

    • Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 12:07 pm #

      Jolter, the issue I have is that these occurrences happen to white boys the same as black ones, although no one believes me when I say that, even when I give them the details and point out that some of the incidents used by BLM (which is a white-sponsored organization, btw, a person named DeRay could not organize his own lunch let alone a protest) didn’t happen or had nothing to do with police overreach (Trayvon).
      We aren’t going to solve this problem keeping the narrative going that this is something that racist white cops are doing to black people. Maybe that’s the whole idea, as what they seem to be angling for by pushing this fiction is a national police force.

      • dweebus July 18, 2016 at 1:01 pm #

        Though normally, I shy away from MSM, I recommend watching the CNN town hall hosted by Don Lemon on the policing issue.

        One of the questioners was an African American police instructor from KC, I believe. He told the panel that if they thought there was no white supremacy on the police force they were outta their mind.

        In his statement he mentioned that many officers had told him blacks were genetically predisposed to crime and had to be controlled by any means necessary.

        If control is the goal, resistance is the response.

        That said, many, many white folk are rolled up by the cops. We just can’t talk about it.

        • Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 1:36 pm #

          Don never answered Donald’s “who’s doing the raping?” question. That’s one of the moments that made me an ardent Trump supporter.

          • dweebus July 18, 2016 at 2:03 pm #

            So, Beryl, who’s doing the raping?

            The beaners? The jigs? Geez whiz, being as most rapes are committed by someone the victims knows, they must know lots of beaners and jigs, eh?

            Or could most rapes be committed by nice boys like Stanford swimmers who then get let off with probation.

            I betcha if he fit the Donald’s profile he’d a done hard time.

            Give me a fucking break.

          • malthuss July 18, 2016 at 7:18 pm #

            Or could most rapes be committed by nice boys like Stanford swimmers who then get let off with probation.

            He was not charged with rape.

            White on Black rape–give me the numbers.

    • elysianfield July 18, 2016 at 12:25 pm #

      ” I suggest that the imposition of non-lethal methods of policing and crowd control would do a great deal more to defuse what has become one hell of a mess – if it’s not already too late.”

      The statement seems logical to someone who has never been in those violent situations. All police are trained in the incremental use of force…non-lethal to deadly. No department has a “shoot first” rule of engagement. Excesses occur as a result of a failure of training, or a collapse of judgment on the part of the participants.

      Your solution is a bit simplistic…and what exactly does “imposition” mean? I would suggest that any of the readership truly interested in law enforcement methods to contact your local police department and ask to participate in a “ride along”…especially if you are near an “urban area”. Most departments permit civilians to ride in the back seat of a patrol vehicle for a shift or two.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 2:46 pm #

      You’re still buying into the narrative. Yes, the Police are trigger happy, but that’s against all races. The media simply doesn’t make a big deal about Whites getting blown away by the ‘roid monsters. Or tased to death in cop feeding frenzies.

      They create consensus reality by picking and omitting out of the sum total of all the data they have available. When are you going to take the Red Pill? The Media Masters obviously want a Race War and are working in tandem with Soros who funds BLM.

      • bentley12 July 19, 2016 at 7:37 pm #

        You are a complete loon dealing in right-wing conspiracy theory. Sick.

  19. nwcodetalker July 18, 2016 at 11:00 am #

    “This is what the idiotic “diversity” cult does, accompanied by the even more idiotic idea that “inclusion” is required for those who choose not to be included in that common culture.”

    An expansion of your thoughts would be welcome. Do I think a new book is in the works? I hope so….

  20. Newton Finn July 18, 2016 at 11:22 am #

    Sorry you chose to choose sides, Mr. Kunstler, and the wrong one at that.

    Did you ever really feel the existential freedom of the 60s, the palpable sense of possibility, the better world struggling chaotically, sometimes violently, to be born? Or were you always an observer, even when the action was at fever pitch?

    Do you really think we can “law and order” our way out of this? Didn’t we try that before, only to find ourselves back where we started? We’ve lived through the same flash of history, but life has taught us different lessons.

    No sane person wants to see innocent cops killed, nor does such a person want to see cops kill defenseless people. Now as then, open eyes see both, the latter more than the former.

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    • James Howard Kunstler July 18, 2016 at 11:34 am #

      Newton Finn writes:
      “Do you really think we can “law and order” our way out of this? ”

      I said no such thing. A lot of people putting words in my mouth on this topic.


      • Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 12:14 pm #

        I see that. Interesting that anyone can pretend we can have a ‘conversation’ on the topic of race, when the script for the ‘wrong side’ has already been written. It will not matter what words come out of anyone’s mouth, they will be taken as forbidden violations of some code or other.
        Donald Trump is a victim of this. I never heard him say he wanted to permanently ban Muslims. Look what he gets for daring to suggest a solution to the problem of Islamists coming here for the purpose of killing us – a call to violence against him and his supporters at the convention, because he is so, you know, evil and dangerous and racist.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 3:06 pm #

          Well obviously Muslims have to be banned and permanently so. Where did you get the idea that we have to allow immigration at all? We choose and we choose who and if we don’t need any, then the answer should be zero.

          Islam is not compatible with our culture. Case closed. Trump know this but he can’t get elected unless he pretends. Just as Obama couldn’t have gotten elected if he was honest about how he feels about Whites. It’s all revealed in his books, but alas Whites were too deluded and self indulgent to pick up on it.

          • Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 3:33 pm #

            I don’t have any such idea as that we have to allow immigration. I can’t see why we buy into the Globalist propaganda that if we don’t allow some ‘kinds’ a free pass and benefits we don’t allow others, we are xenophobic racists. ICE should not discriminate based on national origin, but they do.

      • bentley12 July 19, 2016 at 7:21 pm #

        You’re sounding very racist when you imply that blacks should just assimilate already! If only it were that easy. Most of the establishment has not wanted them to. Look at how they have treated with contempt the first black president.

        • JimInFlorida July 19, 2016 at 8:48 pm #

          What’s wrong with racism, in the current political context? “Racism” is one of those buzzwords that gets used so often that the target realizes the politically-motivated meaning behind it and dismissed it for the B.S. that it is.

          Racism is code language for, Whitey isn’t laying down any longer and surrendering to the propaganda.

          Blacks would do better to take up Dr. MLK’s ORIGINAL mission, which is one of CLASS STRUGGLE for Labor Rights and Economic Rights. NOT social equality or to use Civil Rights as a siege engine to seize White property and invade White living space.

          Labor Rights includes the right to collective bargaining as a lever against collective financial and managerial power. It includes the RIGHT to be paid on time and for all work performed. It includes the RIGHT to claim the job as a partial property holding in joint ownership with the business or corporate owner. Corporations have no moral right to fire their U.S. workforce and run away to the Corporate Plantations in China and Guatemala.

          Economic Rights includes the right to defend oneself from arbitrary layoff when no misconduct on the job has been proven. The right to seek relief when unemployed and protection in old age. The right to be safe in your house and from fraudulent foreclosures. These are old New Deal concepts and ones that Black people should bring to the table. NOT THE RIGHT TO PREY UPON WHITE WOMEN or act like animals or walk with sagging pants or grunt ooga booga ebonics.

          Dr. MLK’s last speech was to the Garbage Men on strike in Memphis; to get them decent wages and working conditions. He wasn’t telling them to integrate. Without Labor Rights AND Economic Rights, civil rights means NOTHING.

          • Elrond Hubbard July 22, 2016 at 3:42 pm #

            “Whitey isn’t laying down any longer and surrendering to the propaganda” is code language for racism. Not very subtle code, either.

    • elysianfield July 18, 2016 at 12:45 pm #

      You suffer from a lack of perspective…a handful of police shootings, maybe less than 20 that would be considered problematic, but very heavily documented, over a year…in a country of 340 million people…with billions of police/citizen contacts occurring monthly. You should thank whatever God you believe in that you were privileged to grow up in an environment where the civil authority shows such restraint.

      • dweebus July 18, 2016 at 1:20 pm #

        With all due respect, you really are prancing about the mythical Elysian Fields.

        I prefer reality.

        So far this year: 465 police shootings. Not 20. That is about the number of police shot.

        Granted, things are alot worse, elsewhere. They will most likely deteriorate here.

        If police abandon restraint, and double down on violence, Katie, bar the door.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 3:07 pm #

          All Blacks, right Dweeb? No? Then there goes the narrative.

          • bentley12 July 19, 2016 at 7:26 pm #

            Just because more whites than blacks are killed by police, it does not mean that more blacks are killed by the police as a percentage of their population. The narrative is valid. Now don’t be late for your Klan rally.

          • bentley12 July 19, 2016 at 7:29 pm #

            I meant to say that more blacks than whites, as a percentage of their population, are killed by cops.

        • elysianfield July 18, 2016 at 4:49 pm #

          “So far this year: 465 police shootings”

          Please re-read my post…”20 that would be considered problematic”. There will be hundreds more shot, but will not provide for a hue and cry as the shootings will have been deemed necessary and prudent…and if you think there are not hundreds of these situations that occur MONTHLY in our society, then you are mistaken. The few problematic shootings are deplorable, without justification, and will be prosecuted. A little perspective, please.

          • dweebus July 19, 2016 at 10:27 am #

            Ah, yes of course. My apologies.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 3:08 pm #

        Newt’s a leveler. He wants to create Utopia by dragging down the best to the level of the worst. That’s what all this is about.

    • FincaInTheMountains July 18, 2016 at 11:50 am #

      It has become a consensus, the fact of the collective unconscious.

      And what about Obama’s girls? anyone interested?

  21. JimInFlorida July 18, 2016 at 12:05 pm #

    The entire underlying narrative of the “conversation about race” is that Whites must surrender unconditionally. It is just another way to extract a confession from Whites to renounce the sins they are inherently guilty of. The charge of “White Privilege” is straight out of the interrogation scenes of George Orwell’s 1984. They want all Whites to act like Germany and voluntarily submit to their alleged victims. A Room 101 full of Muslims awaits those who do not completely surrender. Even surrendering White and fair daughters to the Men of Darkness.

    A more subtle and softer form of Orwell’s 1984-style of torture to Whites has been underway for 50+ years. With some adjustment to the original 1984 text, here how I think Orwell would parallel Winston’s torture for today.

    “O’Bama tells Whites that they are to be cured of White Privilege and related mental fallacies. He combines the relentless logic of doublethink and the administration of bureaucratic insolence till Whites are reduced to confessing that White Ain’t Right. O’Bama points out that unlike the old persecutors of the New Left, Civil Rights, and EEOC Inquisition, they will not stop with merely extorting forced confessions. They break Whites by torturing them into loving their oppressors.”

    • kansas ham on wry July 18, 2016 at 12:38 pm #

      ‘to act like Germany and voluntarily submit to their alleged victims?’

      Are you referring to the six million ‘alleged’ Jewish ‘victims’ of the Holocaust? If so, you may be on the wrong blog. You may want to redirect yourself to Stormfront where I’m sure you’ll be embraced with open arms.

      • FincaInTheMountains July 18, 2016 at 2:18 pm #

        Considering that Germans were laughing their asses off paying the “Jewish reparations” using small portion of the gold teeth they collected from the Jewish bodies.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 3:10 pm #

          Tell them about the soap and lampshades too.

        • FincaInTheMountains July 18, 2016 at 4:25 pm #

          Soap and lampshades had a miserable ROI compared to gold teeth.

      • JimInFlorida July 18, 2016 at 10:32 pm #

        My bad. I was referring to the MUSLIM invasion! The Muslims are in latest news and may well push aside the Jewish Victimization machine to become the new plaintiffs!

        I have serious doubts about the “official” account of National Socialist Germany because that narrative is kept alive by a nuclear-powered propaganda machine.

        Like nuclear fuel rods, the bashing of Germany and Whites in general must be R&R’d every so often. Even tired old anti-Hitler anti-German propaganda is just like spent nuclear fuel. It can be reused in new forms to inflict quick destruction or slow poisoning of White Christian organizations.

        • messianicdruid July 19, 2016 at 1:01 pm #

          “Reductio ad hitlerum” trumps reductio ad mohamedum. 

  22. newworld July 18, 2016 at 12:17 pm #

    I’ll take the other side of the bet, this week’s event will be a nothingburger. Mostly these protests are astroturf with occasional outbursts by what we call on the white right a “vantard.”

    And it is always staged, this week the plan could be for gays and lesbians to take center stage for this week’s “Flogging of the conservatives.”

    And conservatives always show up for their flogging and they love it, it has become quite the racket for our conservative leaders.

    • JimInFlorida July 18, 2016 at 11:08 pm #

      It all started with Reagan’s “Big Tent” strategy. Real Conservatism was blurred and made so fuzzy that it could mean just about anything.

      The homosexual Log Cabin Republicans came out of the closet and went into the Big Tent. Zionist Jews came out of the Democratic Party and became crypto-Jews a.k.a. neocons, under the Big Tent.

      Conservatives only know to worship Wall Street, The Rich, and Imperial Wars for Jesus. What else can post-Reagan Cuckservatives do but perform penance to their alleged victims, who felt insulted that the Big Tent didn’t do enough to invite them in?

      The GOP was given its last chance to repent in 1992 and overhaul its Conservative mantra. The Prophet, Pat Buchanan, chastised the Party and delivered True Conservatism from the Book of the Culture Wars. But, they believed him not. The Republicans all shouted, “GIVE US BARABBAS!” Since there was no Pontius Pilate to urge the mob to reconsider their charges against the Prophet Buchanan, the Republicans took Pat and scourged him.

  23. newworld July 18, 2016 at 12:19 pm #

    All this race baiting is to hide the fact that blacks are being shunted to the back of the Democratic party coalition, as was done in Chicago.

    It seems that violence is all blacks have to fall back on politically, too bad for the white cops who might not be the political target just the bullet target.

  24. Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 12:29 pm #

    I was fortunate to grow up in a time when we (me and my friends) weren’t ‘diverse’, we were just us.
    I see a very different reality than I see in the MSM, even locally. Most black people I know just go about their business the same way the white people do, and the Muslims I see do so as well, unmolested by any “racists” that I keep hearing about.
    I think that a lot of people’s ideas about race, especially Obama’s, are like The Blind Men and the Elephant. They simply do not know what they are talking about, getting their ideas from what’s on TV. TV is fake, folks. It is corporate owned, Globalist owned, foreign owned propaganda.
    Does anyone else remember when Al Sharpton was going to “shut down Albany” during the trial of the police officers for the Amadou Diallo killing? What was evident at the actual scene was so much in contrast to what the media (in this case, Dateline) wanted to be portrayed that they resorted to stock footage of marching feet which they got from God knows where, because Al’s followers amounted to a few buses, more than half empty, of some street people who no doubt got paid to take a ride up to Albany. They couldn’t show THAT, oh, no. Al is a stooge of the white-owned media, bought and paid for, as well as a mob snitch and tax evader. He never was any kind of black leader.

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  25. volodya July 18, 2016 at 12:35 pm #

    The problem of lawlessness in the Black segment of the citizenry IMO is a mechanism with a lot of interlocking wheels.

    One “wheel” is the deliberate fostering of identity politics, especially but not solely by Democrats. So-called multi-culturalism is one aspect of identity politics, a divide and conquer strategy of setting people of different racial and ethnic groups against White people, especially small-town and rural Whites. Everyone has a valid group identity, one based in historic and current grievance, and everyone has a culture to be “celebrated”.

    Everyone that is, except White people. That’s the only group identity that dares not breathe its name, at least not without unleashing torrents of invective.

    To Mr Kunstler’s point, is there a common culture? Of course there is, it’s the one that’s never spoken about, the one originating in the British mother country, it’s most visible characteristics being the English language, political institutions modeled on those in Britain, a thousand year English language literary tradition, common law, the Christian religion. You could go on. But the only unembarrassed keepers of that tradition are those most reviled by the bi-coastal intelligentsia and self-appointed thought leaders who deplore both the tradition and its keepers.

    Is there a place in this world where a model of multi-cultural, multi-ethnic, multi-lingual, multi-religious group identities works? Sure. There’s Switzerland. But how many places are there like Switzerland?

    Let’s look to Belgium, boring old Belgium, home to Brussels, the capitol of the EU, that bastion of high mindedness and enlightenment, but where French speaking Walloon and Dutch speaking Flem can’t stand one another. You don’t need a long list of the dysfunction of that place, you can look it up yourself. And then there’s Canada where English-French squabbling led to murders and bombings, martial law, referenda on secession. You can point to the Yugoslav bloodbath 20 years ago or Sri Lanka that just finished burying its dead or a multitude of other multi-ethnic and multi-lingual countries that dissolved in civil war and massacre.

    Multi-culturalism is a model with tons of empirical evidence to discredit it. Yet it’s one touted by people that rattle on and on that they’re the ones that are all about “facts and evidence”.

    But they’re not about “facts and evidence” are they? They never were. They’re all about their own power and their own wealth and their own aggrandizement. The strategy of dividing the citizenry among themselves is how they get there. “Multi-culturalism” is what they call it and Blacks are just collateral damage.

    • EvelynV July 18, 2016 at 12:57 pm #

      If one accepts the idea of Karma, then everything is proceeding apace as required by the rules.

      Slavery was a very bad thing. Imagine how different our Karmic legacy had we never embraced it.

      Ditto the trouble we needlessly stirred up in the Islamic world.

      Ditto the trouble one brings upon oneself for any number of other vices.

      The die is cast, now we await the consequences.

      • volodya July 18, 2016 at 1:03 pm #

        So, by Karmic reckoning, Africans must have done something to deserve the Karmic consequence of slavery and a century of Jim Crow. Not to mention colonial exploitation. They say that South America imported 10 times as many Black slaves as the US.

        Similarly, Karma must have required that Amerindians lose North and South America to European conquest.

        Karma’s a bitch as they say. Centuries of enslavement and the loss of two continents is proof enough.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 3:19 pm #

        In other word, whatever happens is supposed to happen – as long as it’s something bad happening or about to happen to Whites. Right, Ev?

        Karma is a very difficult complex doctrine. All PC must be left behind if one would understand it. As one Master said, inferiors are raised by association with superiors. That is the Law. If the association is exploitative, the superiors don’t share in the joy of work – and there will be payback. Thus is Black slavery to be understood.

        Now that Black have been enriched, they must be sent away before they pay us all back by cutting our throats. The wisest of Americans, like Jefferson and Lincoln, understood that this is the only answer. They are too different to ever have a real place at our table.

    • Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 12:58 pm #

      Well said, Volodya.

      • volodya July 18, 2016 at 1:05 pm #


    • Keith McClary July 18, 2016 at 5:47 pm #

      “And then there’s Canada where English-French squabbling led to murders and bombings, martial law”
      That was decades ago. Those kind of things happen every week in the USA.

  26. amb July 18, 2016 at 12:44 pm #

    Captain Beefheart said, “Everybody is colored. If they weren’t you wouldn’t be able to see them.”

    This is so old, so tired and so unproductive. Concentrating on race, color (basically on human bodies) will never resolve anything and is a pathway to nowhere. Nothing constructive or evolutionary will ever come of it. Concentrating on differences is a losing proposition.

    The people responsible for slavery here in the USA are all long dead and gone. No one in present time is connected to it or has any responsibility or obligations regarding it. You can’t be responsible for your antecedents! Plus, the only connection in relationship to them is protoplasm, not sensibilities. This is common sense. Get off of it.

    We must evolve to a state where a person’s body, color, race, etc. are insignificant. Where people are solely judged by their values, thoughts, actions, contributions, creations, etc.

    We are the Family of Man. We are all brothers and sisters. We must respect and admire each other for the amazing phenomenons that we are. We need to support and help each other to continue to evolve. We are not each other’s enemies. We are being our own enemies and this must stop or we will continue to decay as a race and will vanish due to our lack of integrity.

    • Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 1:02 pm #

      I’ve been in that state a long time, now I’m finding that I’ve somehow become a right-wing, Republican, xenophobic racist.

      Slavery isn’t something invented by white Americans to do harm to black people. I thought I’d throw that out there. Since I now have the name I may as well have the game.

      • ozone July 18, 2016 at 3:23 pm #

        Those who wouldn’t/don’t find the institution of slavery, “harmful”, are those not possessed of a little thing called ’empathy’… and a little social constraint known as ‘shame’.

        (You can own that too; doesn’t bother me a’tall. 😉 )

        • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 3:25 pm #

          If all your tax money is going to aliens and minorities, you a slave too, Zone. I see you shuffling and diggin’ in yo old clothes and shit. Boy how you so high and mighty?

          • ozone July 18, 2016 at 6:07 pm #

            Well there, Sunshine, I don’t have any aspirations to becoming “high and mighty”. It’s obvious that you don’t either, as you’ve chosen to spend your working days as a govt-sponsored blog-polluter. Weighing the two of us, who might I figure is more of a “slave”? Can you guess?

            But, no worries, we all make our choices in this life, don’t we? Shuffle along now, keyboard-potato-peeler.
            (And for the sake of your “credibility” [pause for laughter], lay off with the pathetic eternal victim shit, it’s as tired as your daily-memo-of-talking-points “ideas”. Besides, maggot, you’re getting all your necessaries from our dime, including the camos on your back.)

          • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 7:58 pm #

            Bitter, much? I used to watch you in your backyard at night looking up in the sky, sometimes signaling with your flashlight. Who were you communicating with, eh? Aliens or Mexicans? Or is there even much of a difference? People who see UFOS are often harassed by small dark men wearing black turtlenecks and wrap around sun glasses.

          • elysianfield July 19, 2016 at 11:41 am #

            “Bitter, much? I used to watch you in your backyard at night looking up in the sky, sometimes signaling with your flashlight. Who were you communicating with, eh? Aliens or Mexicans? Or is there even much of a difference? People who see UFOS are often harassed by small dark men wearing black turtlenecks and wrap around sun glasses.”

            Finish him off, Janos…tell him about the anal probes!

          • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2016 at 1:48 pm #

            Zone Trooper Pete: As human beings, we naturally want to excel at something or other. No doubt you bring your biggest cabbages to the county fair and try to win the prize for having the biggest cabbage. Try and forgive yourself for having a bit of egotism. You are a self, a being, so of course you try and stand out a bit. By trying not to stand out at all, you become embittered and hateful to other beings who are just being natural. And you stand out.

          • ozone July 19, 2016 at 9:03 pm #

            Ha! Looks like someone got a lot of mileage out of my little jab at total govt. dependents, but a psy-op bootlickin’ slave is still a psy-op bootlickin’ slave.

            Collect yer scrip, shithead.

      • messianicdruid July 19, 2016 at 1:13 pm #

        What were once called servants and slaves are now called employees. Filthy lucre is the master.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 3:23 pm #

      It’s been tried and it wont work. Say a charter school is set up for above average kids. It thrives. Local Blacks notice that there are almost no Black kids. They demand answers. They are told that Blacks didn’t make the cut. They don’t accept that and raise hell. The standards are lowered to allow them entry. The Black students begin their work of chaos and terror, the Whites and Asians flee, and charter school becomes just another regular shitty school like the rest. Rinse and repeat again and again and again.

      The races are different. You believed the Lie.

    • elysianfield July 18, 2016 at 5:01 pm #

      “We must evolve to a state where a person’s body, color, race, etc. are insignificant. Where people are solely judged by their values, thoughts, actions, contributions, creations, etc. ”

      Truth be told, I would expect that the majority of the members of this site, as well as the majority of Americans in general not only agree with your post, but actually live that ethic. I certainly have no issue with a neighbor’s race, so long as he has the requisite qualities of our culture, its values and a civil character. Can you point out one person on this site that does not agree with this premise? Your wish has been granted…it is not about race, but character and culture.

  27. pequiste July 18, 2016 at 12:47 pm #

    And a little bit more gasoline for the fire from CHarm City:


    • Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 1:07 pm #

      Yes, we had a lot going on to distract us from that, didn’t we?
      Freddie Gray never had a chance in life, growing up in the Clinton/Bush era of Globalization. Nothing improved for him under a black president, no hope, no change, just stirring up racial grievances to distract from failures. Although failures is really the wrong word. You haven’t failed at something you never intended to even try to do.
      The people who caused the problems are not going to solve the problems.

  28. volodya July 18, 2016 at 1:16 pm #

    Beryl, there’s nothing as inflaming to tensions as the offshoring of millions of jobs and family livelihoods. The low-down scum that cooked this up and their minions in Washington then distract by stirring up racial grievance and so-called culture wars just by uttering words like abortion, gender neutral bathrooms etc. The real bizness though is about sacking the country, eliminating pensions, in short, enriching the rich and screwing everyone else.

    In that sense, a very large group of White, Black and Hispanic and Amerindian have a commonality if interest. The trick is for someone to rally these people to their common cause.

    You’re entirely correct, the people that caused the problems aren’t going to solve them especially because they have no intention of solving them and especially because it’s not in their interest to solve them.

    • Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 1:45 pm #

      Even Elizabeth Warren- if she really believed in the stuff she used to say she believed in, she would not be up there on a stage with Hillary. If Hillary was inclined to do anything about these problems, what was she waiting for when she was a Senator?
      Now she’s (Hillary) is out there ginning up racial grievances, phony ones I might add. I would like to kick her in the teeth for that. She makes horrible remarks like most people don’t realize that schools are more segregated than ever. The reason most people don’t realize that is not because she is so much smarter than we are, but because schools most people attended are not and never were segregated, and she, like Obama and the rest of the political class, are out of touch with most people’s educational experiences because they send their kids to exclusive private schools.
      Chelsea turned out to be a dunce anyway.

      • cbeard July 18, 2016 at 3:09 pm #

        Could it be that I am actually that old. Beryl of Oyl states that most people attended schools that are not and have never been segregated. Born in 1955 the schools I attended were totally segregated until I was in the 5th grade. At first the integration was voluntary and not forced. There were only two black kids in the white school system, one boy and one girl. Both in my grade, room, etc. I don’t recall any problems, the upper class white girls took the young lady under their wing more or less and things went well. The young man was exceedingly outgoing, bright and friendly and well liked among most of our classmates. I believe their previous schooling in an all black environment was of good quality. Our schools weren’t totally integrated until I was in the 10th grade. From there it was a downward spiral. The quality of the education provided went down for black and white. The public schools my grandchildren have to attend today are dumbed down zoos. By the way, the young black lady went on to a career in social work, and the young man (now deceased) became a teacher.

        • Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 3:17 pm #

          Segregation was an official policy. I grew up in New York, I went to schools with black children, so did my father, so did my grandparents.
          Hillary claims to be a New Yorker. She seems to think segregation exists more today than it did then. It didn’t exist everywhere even when it existed, and it certainly doesn’t exist today.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 3:30 pm #

            But it should, obviously. Natural integration is one thing, but segregation is the natural norm. To force integration was an outrage against the fabric of American Life. They didn’t give a rat’s ass about education, just quotas. Utterly ignorant and/or malicious people.

        • elysianfield July 19, 2016 at 11:37 am #

          “Beryl of Oyl states that most people attended schools that are not and have never been segregated.”

          In San Antonio, Texas, in 1960, I attended Robert E. Lee High School…not only totally segregated, but flew the Confederate Battle Flag, at the entrance to the school, alongside the US and Texas State flag.

          The school has been long integrated…and now is referred to as “Lee High School”

      • elysianfield July 18, 2016 at 5:04 pm #

        “Chelsea turned out to be a dunce anyway”

        Yeah, a dunce purportedly worth $15 million dollars. ONLY IN AMERICA!

        • pequiste July 19, 2016 at 12:25 am #

          A dunce who will probably run for “public office” especially if mummy wins the election.

          I can see her running successfully as a ” Mike Bloomberg Republican” for any of the House seat(s) currently or previously held by the vile professional politician Jerrold Nadler.

          You all should know – politics is a “family bizness.”

    • ozone July 18, 2016 at 3:45 pm #

      This is why I’m rooting for Financial Collapse as a ‘front-runner’. Sure, we see *all* the stages of collapse proceeding apace, but the deliberately manufactured fraud of the culture/religion wars won’t become apparent until the blatant reality of the class war is exposed by the impoverishment of damn-near everyone. Keep your powder dry for *that* existential struggle, ’cause that’s the one that will really tell the tale. (Although I’m becoming convinced that Frankiti’s attitude that humans don’t deserve the gifts they’ve been handed as the frighteningly ‘correct’ one. Brrr. No reason to obsess though, the Earth will abide and doesn’t have a need for us.)

      Human life is very cheap at the moment, and it won’t be treasured again until there is a *lot* less of us. At that point, it may become possible to outline some common values again. …I’m hoping unmitigated greed won’t be considered a ‘value’ for our great-great-grandchildren (or farther out, if they should be lucky).

      • Frankiti July 19, 2016 at 8:16 am #

        “Indeed, the Artist is no other than he who unlearns what he has learned, in order to know himself, and the agony of the Artist, far from being the result of the world’s failure to discover and appreciate him, arises from his own personal struggle to discover, to appreciate and finally to express himself.” -EE Cummings

        Schopenhauer believed one could overcome suffering through aesthetic contemplation, sublimation; art.

        Freedom and sublimation requires freedom from dogma and from all “truths” all assumptions, particularly questions about oneself, humanity, the human condition our reality in the universe.

        The universe shall abide, nicely put.

        • messianicdruid July 19, 2016 at 1:23 pm #

          You are not an artist just because no one understands you.

          • Frankiti July 19, 2016 at 2:51 pm #

            Messianicdrooler, Art the verb, not the noun… besides, as the quote says, “far from being the result..”

            Come with me, I’ll hold your hand.

          • messianicdruid July 19, 2016 at 7:16 pm #

            Thanks, but I would just hold you back.

          • Frankiti July 19, 2016 at 9:41 pm #

            Good plan… as I’m more often than not walking into walls and other immovable objects.

    • dweebus July 19, 2016 at 12:40 pm #

      “In that sense, a very large group of White, Black and Hispanic and Amerindian have a commonality if interest. The trick is for someone to rally these people to their common cause.”


  29. dolph9 July 18, 2016 at 2:06 pm #

    Black men are dangerous. Everybody knows it but the drugged out whores who have sex with them because they supposedly have big genitalia. As if that’s the measure of what a man can provide a woman.

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  30. Beryl of Oyl July 18, 2016 at 3:13 pm #

    This is for dweebus, because there was no reply button after his comment to me. You speak in cliched politically correct talking points. There is really no point in telling you this, as you have already tagged me as a bigot for not letting some corporate mouthpiece like Don Lemon tell me what I may think, but the one Don was bringing up a report on the plight of the poor women crashing our border in droves. He cited an alarming rape statistic as a reason we should be more supportive and welcoming of the invaders. Donald’s natural question was “who’s doing the raping?” It is a logical question. We should let in droves of Central and South American women, at taxpayer expense, because they are pitiable rape victims, without mentioning that the men with them are raping women? I don’t want a bunch of rapists brought in to this country, ‘beaners’ is your word, not mine, and no they weren’t beaners.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 3:32 pm #

      Yeah there was a 60 minutes sob episode about young men fleeing El Salvador’s gang wars. All very touching. But obviously the gang members are coming too. Silence about that.

    • dweebus July 18, 2016 at 3:47 pm #


      I used “beaners” for rhetorical effect. Is “Mexican Rapists” more palatable? That is the Donald’s term.

      I was speaking specifically to the town hall discussion of police violence, which I felt was relevant to the subject you brought up, white kids getting pulled over unjustly by the popo.

      You chose to employ the straw man, not I. I was not speaking the Central American immigration question, nor the rape issue vis a vis MS13. Then you employed that as a ad hominem against Don Lemon, who was not even the primary subject of the comment. The police instructor was. I thought he had an interesting POV.

      If you are going to engage in such blatant logical fallacies, be prepared to be hit back, sometimes with admittedly imflamatory rhetoric.

  31. elysianfield July 18, 2016 at 3:58 pm #

    “African scientists developed rewritable memory that stores information in the positions of individual chlorine atoms on a copper surface.”

    BBC reports this AM, that, with this storage medium, every book written in human history can be placed on the size of a postage stamp.

    • elysianfield July 18, 2016 at 3:59 pm #


      Dutch scientists, Dutch, not African…sorry for the confusion.

      • messianicdruid July 19, 2016 at 1:45 pm #

        Appealing to blood will not get you there either.

        “…no one can escape the fact that the great harlot of Revelation 17 is closer than we care to admit, for we all have two natures: fleshly and spiritual. In our lack of understanding, we all tend to identify with the flesh, saying, “I am of Adam,” or “I am of Israel” or “I am of Abraham” or [ I am White ] “I am of this or that denomination.” We think that if we can just identify with great men or organizations of the past, we can somehow escape the sentence of death (mortality) that comes with such fleshly genealogy. That is the great illusion, the blindness, the veil that is spread out over the whole earth.


  32. dweebus July 18, 2016 at 4:49 pm #


    To continue our conversation, should you wish, you accused me tagging you as a bigot for not letting Don Lemon tell you what to think.

    Pray tell, wherever would I have gotten that idea?

    Oh, I know, and I quote:

    “…used by BLM (which is a white-sponsored organization, btw, a person named DeRay could not organize his own lunch…”

    Why, DeRay and not Bob, or Fred, or Sam? Can we quit being coy, now? The implication is obvious, an inner city black young man is incapable of organization, much less leadership.

    If you wanna find the bigotry in the room, walk into the john and look in the mirror.

    As to immigration, believe it or not, I am kinda on y’alls side. The US cannot sustain open immigration (legal or illegal) in perpetuity. But unless you propose a total ban on all immigration, and Fortress America, some folk getta come in.

    It seems to me a girl pressed into “marriage” (sexual slavery) by MS13 in Honduras or El Salvadore (the technical term is not “wife” it is “bitch”) would be an ideal candidate, initially. Oh, and generally speaking, she borrows money from her family and flees via coyotes and La Bestia,under cover of darkness. Her ” Papi” doesn’t come with her, so you need not fear the rapist.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 8:06 pm #

      Beryl is a woman so would go into the “Jane” but she can’t cuz there’s a tranny in there.

      Juanita flees gang violence and then we find out she’s already pregnant with the bad seed. And her family has the right to be reunited so the Baby Daddy gets in and her parents too in the end.

      You’re not on our side. Only Fortress America can save us not. Exceptions are the Road to Hell. Norms are what will save us. Holy norms and laws. The Law must be worshiped again as a manifestation of God. As David sang, Lord, teach us your statutes.

      • dweebus July 19, 2016 at 10:39 am #

        “Juanita flees gang violence and then we find out she’s already pregnant with the bad seed.”

        So you are a eugenicist as well. I am not surprised. Do you advocate forced sterilization for “imbeciles” as a way of reducing the bad seed?

        “Three generations of imbeciles is enough.” -Oliver Wendell Holmes (Buck v Bell)

        • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2016 at 1:56 pm #

          Thank you. My views WERE the views of great Americans throughout our history. They are the views of any real America. Most people are too dumb to know that they’ve been dumbed down. You at least know how much you don’t know.

          • malthuss July 20, 2016 at 8:38 pm #

            His views are ‘boiler plate anti science’….typical stuff.

  33. Hands4u July 18, 2016 at 5:21 pm #

    Lest we not forget the ancient story of The Tower of Babel? Or the idea of- divide and conquer. I agree with JHK, let’s start with a common competency. If it’s still true, even Sweden requires that citizens learn the language so all citizens have a better understanding of the culture.

    • Frankiti July 18, 2016 at 5:50 pm #

      The Swedes also learn English and other languages something the retarded American populace refuses to do. Maybe if more Americans learned other languages they wouldn’t get so hung up on hanging on to the queen’s.

    • pequiste July 19, 2016 at 12:11 am #

      The former swedish are falling over themselves, in a rush to national/social/cultural suicide and fast.

      You better get the proper perspective on the new Yzlamic Kingdom of Swedenstan where Yzlam is the state religion and swedish takes third place to Arabik and Bantu. The acursed cross is coming off the national flag and shall be replaced by a green background with the three requisite crescent & star combos and a nice scimitar.

      Go to Malmo in Skanestan if you even dare.

      Swedes will not even require gentle coaxing to have Victoria Silvsted in a burka and Absolut (vodka) will be HARAM and you can count on it Kafir dog.

  34. Frankiti July 18, 2016 at 5:47 pm #

    ”Back then, it was in style to assassinate political leaders. Today it’s in fashion to assassinate police. ”

    And coworkers at meetings and revelers at dance clubs and travelers at airports and parade watchers on promenades.

    Yep, today we have as much contempt for the idle little people, the capitulated enablers that go on the same with life despite being walked all over, as we do for those that do the walking, stealing, and bombing. Transfer of wealth and guilt, wow this 1% have it made.

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  35. rapier July 18, 2016 at 6:24 pm #

    If and when America devolves economically along the path JHK proposes then long before the bottom is reached that “common culture” he speaks of is going to unravel in all sorts of terrible ways including violence against authority. Which makes his incessant forays into race relations a trip off into the weeds.

    Soon enough if he is right many others will be visited by history the way black Americans have been and that includes not just the tatted and pierced up 20 and thirty somethings that make the old boy shake his head. It’s even going to hit those quiet upstanding New England Yankees of his ideal. A portion of who are not going to go quietly to the consul meeting hoping to work things out and it won’t include bowing down to police/government authority.

    I’ll allow JHK is half right about ‘liberals’ and the failures of black culture but so what. That is all just a sideshow only tangentially related to the long emergency. If all those ghettos had disappeared because its residents had been magically transformed into a facsimile of the stoic New England Yankee we would still be screwed.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 8:13 pm #

      Social capital can accrue in homogenous societies, and not otherwise. There is no single America anymore so when it falls, it falls for good. Hopefully Whites can grab a big chunk or two for themselves, themselves alone.

  36. Q. Shtik July 18, 2016 at 7:04 pm #

    Here is something I read today that surprised the shit outta me: Ken Fisher, a billionaire money manager and longest running financial columnist for Forbes said in the magazine arrived in my mailbox this morning: “I actually see Trump winning………..”

    It is important to understand that this has absolutely nothing to do with his personal ideology. He only mentions it as it relates to what he thinks stocks will do for the balance of 2016 and into the “inaugural year.”

    If you are a careful reader and have a good memory you may recall that a year ago I reported that Fisher had done some kind of historical analysis (spanning more than a century of data) that told him the Democrat candidate (whoever that turned out to be) would NOT win the presidency.

    So here we have someone who has remained consistent for a year and is waaay out on a limb.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 8:18 pm #

      Yes, Hill has gone all in for Blacks and Black Lives Matter. Many will see this as I do: as unspeakably evil. Trump is the Law’n Order candidate. Blue Lives matter. Obama was asked to bathe the White House in Blue Light and he refused. Damning.

  37. drdream July 18, 2016 at 7:20 pm #

    I can’t see any way that the nation can experience a meaningful shift without the mass media being diversified. The MSM has to be inclusive because what we have now at the mass level is complete bullshit. Even if you don’t like the conservative/Republican agenda there is nothing, strictly speaking, “truthful” about the rhetoric they control. It’s complete crap.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 18, 2016 at 8:15 pm #

      Yes, Anti-Trust action must be taken. Failing that, RICO.

      • drdream July 19, 2016 at 8:01 am #

        I wonder if an anti-trust suit or RICO charges could be brought against a political agenda or ideology. It would be a sight to behold.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2016 at 2:02 pm #

          Why not? Ryan threatened to sue Trump. Ginsberg stuck her big nose into the campaign, an unprecedented display of inappropriate behavior by her branch of the Government. But I don’t endorse such things – just breaking up the Media to benefit the Nation.

  38. BackRowHeckler July 18, 2016 at 9:25 pm #

    Jim kind of reminds me of earlier American writers — John Dos Passos, John Steinbeck, and Jack Kerouac to name a few — who started out ‘on the left’ but later in life moved to the political center and in a few cases the right (Dos Passos, a former communist, supported Nixon, and Steinbeck actually manned a machine gun at 66 years old at Khe San, launching lead at the NVA. Kerouac became a right wing reactionary)

    Hey, how are those Freddie Gray prosecutions going? I hope those cops get their jobs back, with back pay.

    I think what we’re seeing now are the outlines of what a non-white majority USA is going to look like. It aint pretty.


    • tucsonspur July 19, 2016 at 5:02 am #

      Hemingway would have loved Steinbeck manning that machine gun, maybe with some jealousy, wishing it were him.

      What would Hemingway be writing today, being the same person, born say, in the ’70s?

      The times shaping the writer, the writer also shaping and reflecting the times.

      What would Dickens have to say in today’s England, or Voltaire in today’s France?

  39. Frankiti July 18, 2016 at 9:51 pm #

    Seems I had a comment removed… something as to why would blacks want to “assimilate” into a culture of white extreme d****e-baggery like that being displayed by the GOP at the convention and white smug self back-patting that takes place at Sanders rallies.

    Pirsig mentioned something about blacks being astute judges of “quality”. He was right, they are right… it’s in very short supply. Might as well avoid the sh*t that passes for it.

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  40. AHtheHumanity July 18, 2016 at 9:57 pm #

    What i get from this weeks blog is how party politics is mere specticle and has been for some time. The choice setbefor anindividualandnot a color.

  41. Kevin Lee July 18, 2016 at 10:58 pm #

    I’ve been waiting for the “conversation about race”, but here’s the problem as I see it: As far as the left is concerned, it’s all about the feelings, and for the right, it’s all about the facts. Unfortunately, in the current political climate if the feelings are unsubstantiated by the facts, then the facts are not allowed to be part of the conversation.

    • BackRowHeckler July 18, 2016 at 11:34 pm #

      You mean like the fact that the ‘Brotha’ shot in Baton Rouge had 27 felony convictions, was waving around a loaded revolver, and resisted arrest?

      Why indulge yourself in such inconsequential details?

      Hey, more cultural enrichment in Germany: on one of their vaunted railroads (clean and efficient, not like here in the US) a sainted ‘guest’, an Afghan refugee, went berserk and began hacking people up with an axe and a knife. Rest assured no German or EU elite were in the car getting hacked up, just ordinary Germans, the elite having surrounded themselves with armed security inside private conveyances.


      • drdream July 19, 2016 at 8:08 am #

        And that BRH is why I support the NRA. Not because I like guns but because the elite use our tax dollars to have themselves defended but then have a problem with us, you know…..the morons, defending ourselves. So they obviously realize the very real need for guns.

    • elysianfield July 19, 2016 at 11:11 am #

      “As far as the left is concerned, it’s all about the feelings, and for the right, it’s all about the facts.”

      An interesting and insightful comment. Reminds me of an old adage employed by lawyers; “If the facts are on your side, pound the facts…if the law is on your side, pound the law…if neither is on your side, pound the table….”

      The BLM equivalent to pounding the table is, of course, “Takin’ it to the streets….”

  42. wpa_ccc July 19, 2016 at 3:53 am #

    “There are few things in life one can predict with certainty, but given the grave events of recent weeks, it is hard to see how deadly gunplay might be avoided” –JHK


    CLEVELAND (AP) — Cleveland police are reporting few problems and one arrest as night fell on the first day of the Republican National Convention.


    No violence in Ohio, an open carry state, on the first night of the White People’s Party Convention. No “dark prospect” of political violence in Cleveland. Just plagiarism by Trump’s wife.

    • Q. Shtik July 19, 2016 at 4:52 am #

      No violence in Ohio, an open carry state, on the first night of the White People’s Party Convention. No “dark prospect” of political violence in Cleveland. – wpa


      Excellent news! This will be a boon to open-carry everywhere.

      • wpa_ccc July 19, 2016 at 5:18 am #

        Yes, just think of La Raza, Black Panthers, and Nation of Islam all fully armed with AR-15s! (for “self-defense,” of course, in case they feel threatened and have to stand their ground).

  43. Q. Shtik July 19, 2016 at 4:43 am #

    I learned this in 8th grade civics class, 1951-52. – Cavepainter


    That calculates out to a birthday around 1938-1939, before mine in 1940. Is that correct?

    • stelmosfire July 19, 2016 at 10:14 am #

      That is why youse two were both painting in caves! ;o)

  44. FincaInTheMountains July 19, 2016 at 5:51 am #

    Russian Tony Stark

    A 1992 graduate of the Sverdlovsk Institute of Architecture and Art (now the Ural State Academy of Architecture and Arts). The developer of designs for Citroen Xantia X2, C5, concept car C3 Lumiere, C3 Air, C6 Lignage, C4 Volcane, author of Xsara restyling.

    Lead designer of the European Design Center of Toyota in Nice, participated in the creation of models of RAV4, Yaris, Auris, Corolla, Avensis, concept cars MTRC and UUV.

    Having spent nearly 20 years abroad, in 2007 he returned to Russia at the invitation of German Gref. At home he engaged in aircraft design, the Sukhoi Superjet 100, manned spacecraft for a new generation of RSC “Energia” and even a torch for the 2014 Olympics in Sochi.

    All this – Vladimir Pirozhkov.

    It is very exciting in Russia now. There are plenty of opportunities for the development of our territory, a vast country with a huge number of problems. If you are a challenger, if you want to solve problems, not just whine that all bad, Russia is a country of great opportunities.

    For example I’m working now on the development of the spacecraft.

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  45. FincaInTheMountains July 19, 2016 at 6:02 am #

    The most interesting thing is that while some idiots are trying to ban the Russian team from participating in the Olympics in Brazil, other idiots from the next door office are trying to arrange Maidan and Color Revolution in Brazil, which resulted in economic collapse, regular skirmishes in the streets of Rio de Janeiro, which fades into the civil war and environmental catastrophe in the Gulf.


    In conjunction with the epidemic of Zika virus it is very likely would lead to cancellation of the Games and will be very funny if the Russian team will not be allowed at the cancelled Olympics.

  46. FincaInTheMountains July 19, 2016 at 9:23 am #

    The first day of the Republican Convention was a demonstration of the mass support enjoyed by Donald Trump in the Republican Party, and the enthusiasm which his name evokes among the Americans, seemingly demoralized by globalization, political correctness and crash of the social fabric of American society.

    Attempts to organize a rebellion against him among the delegates convention failed in a most disgraceful way and the decisive role in this played a passionate speech of New York Mayor Giuliani (2:26:00)


    But the most important thing is that the convention has become a public trial of Hillary Clinton and her policy in Libya. In particular, from the rostrum it was told that the State Department deliberately supported terrorists in Libya, including Al-Qaeda and the Islamic state, which was the cause of death of the US Ambassador Stevens and his protection team, and Mayor Giuliani recalled hundreds of thousands of dead Libyans, death of which is on the conscience of Hillary Clinton.

    But outrage of her brazen lies to society, the Congress, the FBI was so furious that I doubt her ability to forge the election results despite the coup and her seizure of the power. I just can not imagine that the people who cried and clenched their fists from speech of mother of one of the soldiers killed in Benghazi, who was brazenly insulted by Hillary Clinton, would reconcile with her victory, and most importantly believe in that such victory could be fair.

    It may well be that the First Lady of the United States will speak with a distinct Russian accent. I do not know where she had picked it up, but her accent is not Serbian, but Russian.

    • elysianfield July 19, 2016 at 11:21 am #

      ” her accent is not Serbian, but Russian. ”

      Permit me, with apology, to relate an old “Jody Call” used by the military in the 60’s;

      “If I die in a combat zone,
      Box me up and ship me home,
      If I die on the Russian Front,
      Bury me with a Russian C**t.”

      Trump could do a lot worse….

      Did the Russians, during the cold war years, use similar ditties for marching cadence?

      • FincaInTheMountains July 19, 2016 at 11:53 am #

        No, Russians are much more romantic.

  47. Cavepainter July 19, 2016 at 11:04 am #

    Once again folks, had public education not been wrested away (pirated) from its intended purpose of educating all to the principles upon which our nation was founded, the structure of its government and the process of its operation on behalf of the citizenry (“of the people, for the people and by the people”) we might not be where we are now. You see, public education was enacted into being on justification that for a democracy to work the citizenry had to be educated to the role of transacting it through the process of elected representation. That too is why the legal process of immigration stipulates necessity of going through that education process. Well, that sure was sold down the river, now no longer is our nation’s destiny a reflection of citizen will but rather of how many illegal aliens choose to come here in disregard for our national sovereignty and the immigration laws that were enacted to protect the interests of the citizenry. Our nation’s form of government as originally conceived was one of the greatest achievements in the history of humanity, set to the purpose of avoiding all the tragedies inherit in human behavior otherwise. Its a set of Enlightened principles based on reason, evolved from ancient Grecian times, aimed at lifting humanity above the perpetual strife of tribal. allegiance. Now, we’re back to the Dark Ages.

    • dweebus July 19, 2016 at 12:08 pm #

      Education in the US was a spotty affair, through the first half of our nation’s life.

      It was generally local, and religious in bent. Fees were required. Most children were done by 8th grade. Unless you lived in the cosmopolitan cities of the East, the skills necessary for adult life, were sharpening tools, animal husbandry, understanding weather patterns, farming, wild plant foods, hunting, construction, preserving food and so on. Most of those skills were learned from Mom, Dad, and extended family and community members. School was unnecessary. From the perspective of the Eastern elite, it was undesirable. You did not want a bunch of educated farmers questioning the dictates of their betters. This would lead to nasty things like the Free Silver movement. Definately a no, no.

      Post Industrial Revolution, particullarly, post Irish immigrant influx, we needed factory workers. Cheap factory workers. The goal then became to “regiment the masses” to be compliant little bees who came when the bell rang and didn’t question the boss. As well, the modern public school was a reaction to the proliferation parochial Catholic schools. We wanted kids loyal to the Constitution, not a Pope in Rome.

      So while the proffered goal of education was what you say, the ulterior motive, often unarticulated, was to produce a group of compliant drones for the capitalists.

      Now, post globalization, there is no need for them. It is any wonder that the suburban district is funded to the gills, with fancy swimming pools and state of the art science labs, whilst the rural or urban district is defunded to the point of holes in the ceiling, or books that are 10 – 20 years obsolete.

      Yes, the Elightenment was a huge achievement. But, make no mistake. The Founders had a dark side. There was, and is, an American aristocracy. They will do whatever they deem necessary to maintain their control and privilege.

      • dweebus July 19, 2016 at 12:21 pm #


        Case in point: the Electoral College. It was justified as a way to prevent a tyrant, such as a monarchist, from gaining power. But an equal, or greater fear was the people voting in a populist, someone like Trump or Sanders say, who would upset the natural order of things, in otherwords strip the elite of their privilege.

        It is notable that Electors are party insiders. They are the elite. They are not bound to follow their state’s popular vote. The ultimate hedge against democratic ballot revolution.

      • Cavepainter July 19, 2016 at 12:53 pm #

        What you’re stating is that within the human element there is always the more avaricious predisposed toward personal power and gain rather than oath bound loyalty to the common interests. In way typical to reasoned examination of empirical evidence (scientific process) our government was conceived with aim of averting the catastrophic outcomes that such inclinations of human behavior produce. We’re there now, back to blatant tribal warfare.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2016 at 2:45 pm #

        Every culture has an aristocracy. Communists always have a very strong one, one that is hereditary and hard to get into to and not necessarily based on merit. That is the thing we should be shooting for after all, even if we can’t always hit the bullseye we may get prick near. Or at least not the miss the target all together as you are this week.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2016 at 2:16 pm #

      The Greeks never imagined everyone was equal or should be voting. The best of the Enlightenment, men like Jefferson, understood this. But even early on, countless malicious people used to resentment of the Mob to tear down superior men and the Hierarchy – which must exist in this fallen world. We all want to excel, be it cabbages with the 4h, or becoming president. And men naturally pass on the fruits of their labor to their offspring – so there is no fair starting point. All we can do is make some social mobility possible, if quality is present. Trying to make everything completely “fair” just destroys natural society – and doesn’t even attain fairness either since the Revolutionaries just set themselves up in the same way, either by inertia or by design from the very beginning.

      • Frankiti July 19, 2016 at 4:39 pm #

        In violation of restating the obvious; Goebbels Skorzeny, you’re an imbecile.

        Of course the Greeks expected everyone to vote!!!
        In fact, everyone was required to vote, and more importantly, to serve, in the authentic democracy!!!

        How do you not know this? No, more importantly, how do you pretend to know what Greek democracy was, and then blithely post a false statement belying your certitude.

        We, in the US, do not have a democracy, we have a representative republic. With career politicians. Smoke and mirrors and you’re oh so confused.

        • messianicdruid July 19, 2016 at 8:00 pm #

          “…we have a representative republic.” Had – past tense.

          • Frankiti July 19, 2016 at 9:36 pm #

            Indeed! Good catch

        • Janos Skorenzy July 20, 2016 at 4:07 am #

          It was a system of direct democracy, in which participating citizens voted directly on legislation and executive bills. Participation was not open to all residents: to vote one had to be an adult, male citizen who owned land and was not a slave, and the number of these “varied between 30,000 and 50,000 out of a total population of around 250,000 to 300,000.”[1]

          Wikipedia, Greek Democracy. You ridiculous dummy.

          Needless to say, most Greeks were aghast at the looseness of this system, including many Athenians, most famously, Plato. The system was unstable and ultimately canned.

          • Frankiti July 20, 2016 at 10:35 am #

            Restating the obvious again… of course only those required to vote, the “citizens”, the classes required, was implied.

            The lower classes fought for the restoration of democracy from the ruling classes every time it was usurped.

            History bears repeating. Nothing changes.
            The dynamic, dummy, continues…

            The “citizens” were also required to serve. To serve in the government.
            I believe Plato was most fearful of career politicians, people only skilled at getting votes. What we have in this pseudodemocracy.

            And what of Plato!? From a family of plutocrats he ultimately couldn’t decide whether people should retire to the pursuit of knowledge or be ruled by an autocrat. He wanted the smartest, most educated, well I wonder what class these superior men come from…. the wealthiest, the plutocrats. How convenient.

            Ultimately, he couldn’t think around the problem, the human problem.

            He knew, certainly, that in any way shape or form, they just can’t be trusted.

            And the dynamic, the push and pull is the reality…

            No solution.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 20, 2016 at 2:30 pm #

            You said all and I refuted you. Yes, I agree you probably knew better so the question becomes one of integrity. Why did you lie?

            Plato was a tribal aristocrat. Those who conquer get the goods of the conquered. That’s different than Plutocracy or rule by the Vile. His people didn’t get what they had by trickery or scams, but by honest force.

          • Frankiti July 20, 2016 at 4:51 pm #

            OK Wittgenstein, I said “all” in the context of an ancient slave holding, sexist democracy. The broader point, is that all of the voters were required to participate in both the voting and the serving. Like jury duty. When their democracy was conquered, they fought for it. When it was usurped, they, “they” being the non-aristocrats, the non “in” tribe, fought for it.

            Plato, from what little is known, was believed to be from a family of wealth but not of aristocracy. In fact, it is believed that a relative of his was one of the string of 30 or so usurpers, cementing his family’s low standing. That would make his family plutocrats. Plutocrats are the families from wealth. Oligarchs may be wealthy, or of peerage, or of the right circles. You insinuate that those with power via wealth are vile, as opposed to the power via bloodline, or tribe, or force.

            It is said that Plato became disillusioned with politics as he saw all politics as ultimately the pursuit of wealth.

            That’s the honesty behind your force.

  48. wpa_ccc July 19, 2016 at 1:02 pm #

    The whole Trump campaign is a scam and Melania is part of it.

    “Questions about her education grew more significant Tuesday morning, following the revelation that Melania Trump plagiarized parts of her speech to the Republican National Convention from one that First Lady Michelle Obama gave in 2008.

    That revelation on Monday raised the question of whether there was anything else Melania Trump hadn’t been entirely truthful about.

    Slovenian journalists Bojan Pozar and Igor Omerza wrote in their biography on the former fashion model that she “became ? and remained ? a college dropout” after leaving the University of Ljubljana’s architecture school following her freshman year.”

    Melania can steal her words, parrot Michelle Obama, and lie about being a university graduate, but Melania can never rise to the intellectual level of Michelle.

    • FincaInTheMountains July 19, 2016 at 1:11 pm #

      wpa female jealousy speaking…

    • messianicdruid July 19, 2016 at 8:02 pm #

      Wonder who wrote Michelle’s speech.

      • malthuss July 20, 2016 at 8:44 pm #

        Having skimmed her ridiculous ‘thesis’, I dont care, but we know it wasnt her.

  49. FincaInTheMountains July 19, 2016 at 1:24 pm #

    A drunken guy comes up to a woman and says:

    — Pardon, me, ma-am, but you are ugly as sin!

    — How dare you, you are drunk as a fish!

    — So what, I gonna sober up, eventually…

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  50. elysianfield July 19, 2016 at 1:31 pm #

    Can anyone in the readership guess who said this?

    I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races; that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people, and I will say, in addition to this, that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And in as much as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.

    • wpa_ccc July 19, 2016 at 2:30 pm #

      Mike Pence.

    • Q. Shtik July 19, 2016 at 3:00 pm #

      Can anyone in the readership guess who said this? – Elysian


      Oh, that’s so easy………Janos Skorenzy

    • elysianfield July 19, 2016 at 7:08 pm #

      A lot of good answers, but the quote was of the Great Emancipator, Abraham Lincoln in the 4th Lincoln-Douglas debate of 18 September of 1858.

  51. FincaInTheMountains July 19, 2016 at 1:36 pm #

    The most anti-American Russian song I could recall back from the 60s:


    Actually, it was Russian remake of the famous “16 tons”


    The Russian version says something like:

    “16 tons, a dangerous load”
    “And we are going to bomb the USSR”

  52. FincaInTheMountains July 19, 2016 at 1:47 pm #

    “Melania Trump plagiarized parts of her speech” == wpa

    Well, what can I say when the American National Anthem is plagiarized version of Russian folk song that is several centuries old:


    Please use it, we don’t mind.

  53. Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2016 at 2:28 pm #

    A beautiful woman sitting alone in a Café, enjoying her coffee, the view, her book, the glances from the men, the jealousy of the women – you think this all comes cheap? That it’s “natural”? No friends, it’s the fruit of hard won victory nature and other men. And nature means our own nature as well. I mean she’s not going to enjoy sitting there if men barge in and sit down at her table without being invited. And then call her a whore if she asks them to leave. She gets to sit there like a princess, queen, or goddess because White Men have restraint and reverence for her. Of course women take that for granted now – and that’s another failure and defeat. She needs to revere in turn the men who made her enjoyment possible and who make it possible in the present.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2016 at 2:29 pm #


    • San Jose July 19, 2016 at 3:58 pm #

      Was the full moon yesterday? Because I had a weird experience yesterday. I’m a 57 year old woman who doesn’t get “hit on” anymore.

      But yesterday I was grocery shopping at my favorite Italian grocery store–Lunardi’s. Very upscale place. I’m heading down the aisle and this blue collar dude with an embroidered patch on his work shirt “Omar” calls out to me and says, “You look especially pretty today.” I say thanks. He introduces himself and wants to shake my hand. Omar asks me, “What are you doing today?” I replied, “I’m cooking dinner for my family!”

      It was so weird because this guy didn’t have a shopping cart or any items in his hands to buy. I think he was at the store to troll for MILFs. For the love of God…..he looked to be around 25-30 years old.

      When I pulled out of the parking lot, I made sure no one was following my minivan home.


      • JimInFlorida July 19, 2016 at 8:08 pm #

        Honey if you’re looking good, who’s fault is that? 😉 Don’t blame me for having two good eyes!

        Seriously, have some heart for the poor guy. The women in his age range are damn near worthless. The days when young women had their charms are long gone. You’re older than I am and I’d probably make a smooth move if the opportunity presented itself.

        A middle aged woman who still remembers how to look feminine, and wears something better than flip flops, capri pants, and a T-shirt, is extremely rare in this toilet called ‘Murika.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 20, 2016 at 2:35 pm #

          A couple of female Mormon Missionaries got on the bus. They were lovely. I literally felt a cool breeze of refreshment come over me to see attractive women wearing dresses. Women like this can be a harbor, an oasis for a man from the stress and heat of life. And of course, it takes a lot of work to look that good and be that good. That’s where we come in. You can’t expect a woman to be like that if she has a “career”. She just becomes a weak little man who dresses and talks funny.

  54. Cold N. Holefield July 19, 2016 at 2:36 pm #

    elysianfield said: Can anyone in the readership guess who said this?

    Melania Trump said it last night in her speech at the KKK rally. It was one of the few things she said that wasn’t plagiarized from Michelle Obama’s speech twelve years earlier to the Gay Pride rally.

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    • Cold N. Holefield July 19, 2016 at 2:41 pm #

      Sorry, I meant eight years earlier, not twelve.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2016 at 2:54 pm #

      Melania is our Vampyre Queen. So so so very White.

      • San Jose July 19, 2016 at 7:10 pm #

        My son wants Melania Trump’s face on the $20 bill!

  55. Cold N. Holefield July 19, 2016 at 2:40 pm #

    wpa said: Melania can steal her words, parrot Michelle Obama, and lie about being a university graduate, but Melania can never rise to the intellectual level of Michelle.

    Okay, sure, fine, but I bet her Stuffed Cabbages are superior to Michelle’s.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2016 at 2:52 pm #

      Ozone just won a ribbon for his Cabbage – two hundred pounds.

  56. Cold N. Holefield July 19, 2016 at 2:45 pm #

    stelmosfire said: That is why youse two were both painting in caves! ;o)

    I think the pervert was doing something a little messier than painting in those caves. He was starching the walls with his discarded progeny instead of creating bovine mosaics with juniper berry extract.

  57. Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2016 at 2:47 pm #

    BLM – a hardcore Communist front group. And Communist means Capitalist as you will see from the Contributors. What? You thought Communism was workers armed with hammers and pitchforks overthrowing ancient and powerful regimes? I hope you come to realize what a naïf you’ve been.


    • bentley12 July 19, 2016 at 7:10 pm #

      BLM is not a communist front group, and you are a fucking loon who listens to too much Alex Jones or Michael Savage.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2016 at 7:22 pm #

        Of course it is. They want to redistribute the wealth from Whites to themselves. That’s Communism. And they chant “What do we want? Dead cops” – that’s incitement to murder.

  58. Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2016 at 3:24 pm #


    The Hammer comes down. Your choice is clear: Hillary and Black/Communist terror or Trump, Western Civilization, and the Rule of Law. Choose wisely. If your heart is right, it’s a no brainer. If your heart is wrong, it doesn’t matter how smart you are, you’re probably going to choose wrong. Kdog is smart and wrong most of the time because he hates his own people, nation, culture, and tradition. His heart is wrong. Same with Dweeb. Same with Zone.

  59. Q. Shtik July 19, 2016 at 3:32 pm #

    The whole Trump campaign is a scam and Melania is part of it. – wpa


    The so-called Melania “speech scandal” is the biggest non-issue of the Trump campaign… a sure sign the Dems are getting nervous. As if the public gives two shits what she said.

    No, the public just wanted to see what dress she’d be wearing and maybe hear her accent and see if she could read the words off the monitor. The public is not looking for intellectual heavyweights in their presidents (obviously) much less in their spouses. Wise up Asoka.

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    • bentley12 July 19, 2016 at 7:07 pm #

      Sure, what the hell. The “law and order” party commits plagerisism and who gives a fuck, right? How many bats would be flying out of the mouths of the right wing hacks and jerks on Fox News if it were the other way around?

      • Q. Shtik July 19, 2016 at 7:42 pm #

        How many bats would be flying out of the mouths of the right wing hacks and jerks on Fox News if it were the other way around? – bentley12


        You’re right about that, Bent, they are all a sordid lot. The fact is, however, that there has been no speech on the Republican side worthy of being plagiarized by Bill Clinton who would be Melania’s opposite number.

        • messianicdruid July 20, 2016 at 9:59 am #

          I seriously doubt that Bill will be allowed to speak at the Convention.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 19, 2016 at 7:52 pm #

      Hey do you remember who that late 19th or early 20th century artist was who did the series of four or five painting on Civilizational decay and renewal? We talked about him here a few years ago if memory serves. I want to share his paintings with another group.

  60. capt spaulding July 19, 2016 at 3:38 pm #

    If you were somehow transplanted into the jungle, and everyone was forced to survive at a very primitive level, I think it’s safe to say that eventually your leaders (regardless of political leaning), would rape you.

    • capt spaulding July 19, 2016 at 3:40 pm #

      Oops, was that too cynical? Naah.

    • wpa_ccc July 19, 2016 at 3:55 pm #

      I doubt it. They probably have not had SERE training.

      • capt spaulding July 19, 2016 at 4:07 pm #

        You’re always here, huh?

  61. tucsonspur July 19, 2016 at 4:45 pm #

    The dark prospects of The Long Emergency and race relations are insidiously intertwined. Each is currently a dangerous, unsolvable, looming problem. Or rather, the real solutions that do exist are neither tractable or palatable. Only weak, ineffective measures are undertaken. For example, electric vehicles in the one case, affirmative action in the other.

    As the population grows, things of course only get worse. The obvious occurs. Resources deplete more rapidly, and specific populations growing faster than others gain more power. Thus, blacks and Latinos will gain, whites will lose. Racial friction will inevitably increase.

    Add enough domestic Islamic terrorism to the mix, and the edginess may fill the air with just enough gun smoke to allow at least a temporary venting of bottled up frustrations caused by unsolvable problems.

    The only current answer? Cope. Dark prospects indeed.

    • bentley12 July 19, 2016 at 7:01 pm #

      Like blacks have not been losing out to white racism for generations. Oh, the poor, put-upon whites. They are really going to be hurt by all the greedy, rich and entitled, blacks and Hispanics! If only they could all just join the 1% and put up walls and live in gated communities to keep all the black and brown people out! Those people who are infringing on all the good white people because they are reproducing like jack rabbits and using up all the resources that should be reserved for the rich and the white!

      • tucsonspur July 20, 2016 at 4:25 am #

        Let me keep it simple by saying that I think we are all aware of the terribly tough times blacks have had, and I’m not unsympathetic to what they’ve had to endure.

        As they say, “it is what it is”. Human nature. Racial friction will only get worse. Count on it.

        • malthuss July 20, 2016 at 8:48 pm #

          Think of all the Blacks killed by their own.

          Like–94% of black men are killed by black men. Less than 1% are killed by law enforcement. If Black lives matter – then why are they not focused on the 94%?


          Year after year Black people kill more Black people in Chicago alone than White people lynched in 100 years (1860 – 1960). And on any given holiday weekend Black people kill more Black people than the Klu Klux Klan ever killed.

          How about them hate facts?????????????

          • messianicdruid July 22, 2016 at 8:25 am #

            “Who taught you to hate yourself?” Malcolm X

            I think this is a fair question for all of us to consider.

            An example of False Guilt is when a man is in the presence of an angry woman and he automatically assumes it is his fault.

    • thenuttyneutron July 19, 2016 at 9:50 pm #

      Part of me thinks that we will all eventually mesh into the same color over a long enough time period if humans continue to move around the globe the way we do now.

      The question should be what skin color gives the comparative advantage when only looking at environmental factors?

      I am white and burn easily on one hand but I can also produce more vitamin D than a darker skinned person. Which one allows me to grow up, have my own kids and raise them before I die? I would just look at what happened to humans over many thousands of generations for the answer. Like it or not, your genes and the environmental affects on the body due to those genes matter over the long haul. People closer to the poles would naturally become white and the people near the equator would become darker.

      We are all just a bunch of hominids that learned to use energy sources other than what our own bodies can produce. This is why I write in “human” on the other line when I am asked what race I am.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 20, 2016 at 3:33 am #

        You don’t know much. Race is far more than skin color – try brain size and shape and hormone levels too. Those are far more profound, and lead to differences in IQ, ability, and temperament.

        Gross physical differences too – like Black running and jumping ability. Why did you leave that out? Or thickness of the skull – good for living in primitive cultures where you’re liable to get hit with a club. Think all that’s a myth? If you do, you know even less than I thought you did.

  62. bentley12 July 19, 2016 at 6:53 pm #

    Blacks are not able to “assimilate into the nation’s common culture” because they have been held down by racism by design. They were denied access to bank loans, decent jobs, the ability to acquire and pass on wealth, and are now being subjected to voter suppression and poisoned water. Try having grown up in impoverished neighborhoods with lousy schools and sub-standard housing because your family is poor and will remain poor no matter how hard they work. Now the white middle class is joining the ranks of the impoverished, and suddenly what blacks have endured throughout history suddenly becomes a campaign issue. See how difficult it is to assimilate when you are looked upon by whites, cops, and society as being suspect because of your skin color. This is the reality that blacks in inner cities especially are faced with everyday. JHK, as a beneficiary of white privilege, you are in no position to criticize the condition of race relations in this country without taking these facts of black life into consideration.

    • elysianfield July 19, 2016 at 7:38 pm #


      All you say may be true, but your comment is one offered as an excuse for lack of success and bad behavior…I can accept the reasons for their dysfunction, and I can sympathize, but will give them no quarter for their crimes and acts of civil disorder…nor will I for any white or other person of color from similar circumstances who violate the law and customs of this country.

      Assimilation is the path that must be chosen…the Koreans, Japanese, and Philippine immigrants to this country came from bomb razed, war torn, countries, where poverty and starvation was often the norm, and they assimilated and prospered…and they were all easy to spot in a crowd…short, dark skinned, wearing funny clothes, unable to speak or read English…The blacks I observed in Oakland in the 60’s were, for the most part, well fed, had cars and motorcycles, lived in conventional tract homes, had decent clothing,
      were given free education through Jr. College, spoke English…why the disparity in achieving the American Dream? Before the 1950’s blacks were not encouraged to assimilate, and after the 1960’s they made a conscious decision not to…

      • malthuss July 19, 2016 at 10:32 pm #

        Why did non Blacks want to avoid Blacks?

        Whites avoid Blacks.
        Yellows avoid Blacks.
        Browns avoid Blacks.


        • Q. Shtik July 20, 2016 at 12:43 am #

          What you say sounds like a smart-ass remark but consider this: The small city of New Brunswick, NJ has a pop. of 56,000+. It is the home of Rutgers Univ., Johnson & Johnson and the numerous facilities of Robert Wood Johnson Hospital and Medical School. NB has a new high school less than 6 years old that has zero White students. All the students are Hispanic and Black plus a few misc. The school is one of the most expensive built anywhere.

          Rhetorical question: Whose money was used to build this school?

          ……..and not one White student attends there. This is called White Flight.

          • JimInFlorida July 20, 2016 at 9:47 am #

            The question may not be rhetorical but, can be answered metaphorically and not far removed from reality.

            WHITEY was shaken down to pay for the school. J&J was definitely shaken down behind the scenes. All the private benefactors made a calculated decision to make grants today and use those grants as political fig leaves tomorrow. Of course, Uncle Sam was required to be the FIRST to put his Blue Chips in the pot before the others added theirs.

            The cult of Mo’ Money for Education Cures All Problems requires ever increasing sacrifices and Whitey is required to perform greater acts of penance in that regard. Money is being sacrificed to avoid addressing the true nature of the problem.

            Iron and clay don’t mix, no matter how much money is spent or how complex a machine you make to force the mixing. Yes, you can grind the iron into dust and make it as small as clay but, you end up with a worthless mixture in the end.

          • malthuss July 20, 2016 at 9:51 am #

            This is called White Flight.
            And being taxed for blacks.

            Notice the fat Black women with the children? where are the fathers?
            Who is paying for this?

          • Elrond Hubbard July 22, 2016 at 5:08 pm #

            Q: “Rhetorical question: Whose money was used to build this school? ……..and not one White student attends there. This is called White Flight.”

            Seriously, someone needs to explain this to me. Let’s say you pay a dollar in taxes, and happen to be a white American. That dollar presumably gets spent ‘somewhere’. Depending on the level of government involved, it might get spent on:

            – A settlement to the family of someone (race unspecified) shot by a local police officer because they reached for a gum wrapper.

            – A major tax break inserted into an appropriations bill at the last minute, benefitting a bank that happened to lend the governor several million dollars to buy a house and never actually required repayment.

            – A gold-plated bidet installed by a subsidiary of some defense sub-subcontractor at a fancy new conference center on Diego Garcia, an island in the middle of the Indian Ocean that is inaccessible to civilians. The bidet never actually gets used, because the conference center burns down several months later owing to sub-standard wiring installed by a subsidiary of another sub-contractor.

            With these examples in mind, why is it so particularly heinous if it happens to get spent on a school attended by black Americans when the tax dollar was paid by a white American?

    • Janos Skorenzy July 20, 2016 at 3:38 am #

      Most Blacks were smart enough to know OJ was guilty – they just loved seeing him get off. As for the murdered Whites? It’s Ok, they White and had it coming.

      With attitudes like this, prejudice is reality and people will naturally avoid you and be justified in doing so.

    • messianicdruid July 20, 2016 at 10:16 am #

      “… you are in no position to criticize the condition of race relations in this country without taking these facts of black life into consideration.”

      I am reading “Hillbilly Elegy” by J.D.Vance. PLM – poor lives matter. Everyone has their own interests. Division along false paradigms only helps the Dividers.

    • malthuss July 20, 2016 at 8:57 pm #

      What success do Blacks have in Africa?

      Haiti got its freedom from France at the same time Quebec did.
      Why the difference?
      Haiti has a better climate.

      Can you give me some facts?

      • JimInFlorida July 21, 2016 at 3:34 pm #

        You have to go all the way back to the Mali Empire of the 13th and 14th centuries to find a Black nation that achieved the African equivalent of a full set economy, high arts, education, exploration, comprehensive laws, religious harmony, social and political stability.

        Mansa Musa, feeling ghetto rich, went on a huge goodwill tour and pilgrimage to Mecca. He spent money as fast as he could to show off how rich he was. The massive giveaways caused high inflation everywhere he went. In the end, he spent all the wealth he brought with him and had to borrow gold from the Jewish moneylenders in Cairo at high interest to get home.

        Mali was as developed as any European nation of the time and, the Giveaway Tour to Mecca (1324-1325) broke Mali’s back. It took another 16 years (four years after the death of Mansa Musa in 1337) before Mali fell into financial ruin and the necessarily stingy rule of Suleyman Keita.

        Black Africa never repeated the epic achievement of 13th-14th century Mali.

      • Elrond Hubbard July 22, 2016 at 5:16 pm #

        England took Québec from France by England by force, whereas Haitians freed themselves from French slavery by their own efforts. Thereafter, the French were only able to exact vindictive reparations for the loss of ‘property’ (i.e. the Haitians themselves) from one out of the two.

        • Q. Shtik July 22, 2016 at 10:20 pm #

          Elrond, I am not trying to be a smart-ass but I have NO idea what you are talking about. Maybe someone like wpa could explain to me what you are saying. He is very good at articulating a position although he is frequently as full of shit as a Christmas turkey.

  63. Cold N. Holefield July 19, 2016 at 7:23 pm #

    San Jose said: My son wants Melania Trump’s face on the $20 bill!

    For a minute there, I thought you wrote, “My son wants Melania Trump on his face for a $20 bill.”

    I was thinking he better make that a $200,000 bill at least, maybe a $2,000,000 bill if there is such a thing and maybe soon enough there will be.

    • stelmosfire July 20, 2016 at 11:23 am #

      Cold, That is just wrong in so many ways ;o). I’ll take lyin’ finger pointin’ Bill as first lady over Melania any day! NOT! How many languages does Michelle Obama talk? Michelle’s achievement as First Lady has amounted to a piss-poor garden on the White House lawn, and even that is dying. I gotta go mound my ‘taters.

  64. messianicdruid July 19, 2016 at 8:11 pm #

    Trump is nominated.

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  65. wpa_ccc July 19, 2016 at 9:15 pm #

    “Before the 1950’s blacks were not encouraged to assimilate, and after the 1960’s they made a conscious decision not to…” –ElysianFields

    “Not encouraged to assimilate”? What an understatement. They were encouraged to join the armed forces and fight Hitler, but when they returned and were civilians they were actively oppressed and murdered. The sign “Nigger don’t let the sun set on you” at the city limits where I lived was not an idle threat.

    If Blacks held the power in media, finance, congress, etc., and you were being discriminated against, imprisoned and murdered by racist anti-white cops, how would you feel about being criticized for not “assimilating” into Black culture?

    • elysianfield July 19, 2016 at 10:09 pm #

      Understatement notwithstanding, I stand by my comment. If I were to be in a culture in which I could not or would not assimilate , I would expect to “take the hit” and either accept my self-imposed handicap, or move to a different venue.

      In current urban vernacular…”When in Rome, Bi-atch”

  66. pequiste July 20, 2016 at 12:10 am #

    Even though increasing racial tensions and police murders in the USSA are causing intense angst in this country – the entire world held its collective breath on Friday with the “attempted” coup d’etat in Turkey.

    In the aftermath of it failing, President (sultan) Recipe Erdogan has had the authoritarian inclination to have a purge of anyone remotely involved with the Gulen movement ( yes, that same Yzlamik cleric with the substantial compound in Pennsylvania.) Last reports have over 18,000 military members, judges, teachers and civil service removed from positions and over 1,000 media outlets closed down. Nothing like a vigorous “democracy” being destroyed to save it from the dark forces of secularism.

    I personally thought the main thrust of this weeks’ missive was going to be the threat of WWIII with the Turkish coup. Instead Erdogan has apparently engineered a very successful “Reichstag fire” and is in the process of having a Night of The Long Knives and instituting Nuremberg Laws all accomplished in one week.

    Even darker prospects are coming from Asia Minor in spades.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 20, 2016 at 2:37 pm #

      This is what we need too. Hopefully when Trump comes to power, with Christie as Prosecutor, thousands of the Liberal Elite will flee America to avoid prosecution.

      • pequiste July 21, 2016 at 12:38 am #

        The “Liberal Elite” should be compelled to move to some All-American garden spots of their own design:

        – Newark , N.J.
        – Camden, N.J.
        – East St Louis, Il.
        – Detroit, Mi.
        – Oakland, Ca.

        Or perhaps they can be persuaded to relocate to the New (and Improved) Ottoman Empire under Sultan Recipe I,

        WHo among the CFN recalled Incirlik having the Bum-fuck Turkey label?

        • elysianfield July 22, 2016 at 6:24 pm #

          In the mid 60’s, as I recall, Incirlik was considered a “hardship post”…there were more than a few such postings, and all could earn the appellation “bum-fuck”. I remember having heard of “bum-fuck” Guam, and “bum-fuck Korea…bum-fuck Egypt, of course.

  67. FincaInTheMountains July 20, 2016 at 2:28 am #

    Pope Francis and Bernie know what must be done

    We have all the technology and know-how to give up on the oil. However, the passionate greed of a handful of rich people to keep their billions does not let the mankind to make a step forward. We are with the Vatican! For peace and progress. For overcoming the fatal gap between the ultra-rich and the desperately poor. We are with the Pope – for scientific progress!


    The second main topic – the legalization of drugs. Well, in a sense – the legalization of the turnover from the revenues. The UN still can’t hold a hearing. They promised in the fall of 2016. It is unlikely. Will they bomb Vietnam, or again, Afghanistan?

    He whole global financial restructuring is around it: oil/gas and drugs. And oil is not needed already. Sanders announced. He should know.

  68. FincaInTheMountains July 20, 2016 at 7:11 am #

    Trump became the nominee and the object of unbounded people’s love!

    But yesterday he was outdone by a governor of New Jersey Chris Christie.

    You think that I do not like Hillary Clinton? Watch this clip from 3:54:00.


    He arranged a mock lawsuit against Hillary Clinton. And after each accusation addressed the audience as the jury and asked: “Is Hillary Clinton Guilty?”

    And the audience roared: “Guilty, guilty, guilty!!!”

    Compared to him Hillary Clinton is my favorite person! In any case, it would never have occurred to me to accuse her of complicity with Castro, Homeini and of course, Vladimir Putin!

    But he accused and the audience roared: “Guilty, guilty, guilty!!!”

    And on a number of charges of spying for the Soviet Union and Cuba Chris Christie is very coherently presented version of her involvement in the abduction of schoolgirls in Nigeria, captured by the Islamist group “Boko Haram” and sold into sexual slavery in the best traditions of the Islamic state.

    All the same, Chris Christie clearly got something personal against Hillary Clinton – I wonder if she’s behind the bridge-Gate!

  69. Pucker July 20, 2016 at 8:15 am #

    Was Trump ever in the Peace Corps?

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  70. Pucker July 20, 2016 at 8:21 am #

    Hillary Cosby 2016

    “In the final days of the 2000 Senate race, Bill Cosby appeared with Hillary Clinton at an election eve rally in Buffalo, a working class town where a lot of the locals thought Hillary was kind of phony. Although he spent millions of dollars, Congressman Rick Lazio would lose the race, demonstrating how NOT to run against a woman.
    “Cosby was a real asshole from the minute he hit town,” G.D. Parenti, a long time Western New York Democrat who was a volunteer on the Clinton advance team pulling the event together, told me in a recent interview. “He had the best suite in the city, it was nicer than Hillary’s suite. He kept calling it a ‘toilet’ and said the place was a ‘dump,’” said Parenti, a Hillary Clinton supporter.”

    • Cavepainter July 20, 2016 at 10:16 am #

      Please, please, please people,….the point is that the absolute most optimistic outcome for human survival is that it will be a very small number of current population, and that will be conditioned on (1) where remains a sustainable population to resource ratio, and (2) where national integrity (social cohesiveness) holds sufficiently to secure itself from the rising desperation elsewhere and the unmiscible hordes that will seek refuge from it. Those hordes are already pressing down on the US while among ourselves we dawdle with self aggrandized and purely fanciful PC notions of being able harbor the entire load. Get off it! We’d better recognize — and fast before our slim chance is squandered — that trans-nationalism, open borders, the diversity meme amounts to the “rearranging chairs” metaphor. Put in perspective it can be realized that the founding documents of this nation embodied the collective wisdom derived from scholarly examination of human history and gave template for avoiding the failures of prior societies.
      Let’s become a nation again — get over haggling and become again a citizen body united and oath bound to the founding principles. ENOUGH!

      • wpa_ccc July 20, 2016 at 12:01 pm #

        “Let’s become a nation again” –cavepainter

        We are a nation. We never stopped being a nation. On October 25, 2001, the Patriot Act passed the Senate by 98 to 1.

        Can’t get much more of a unified patriotic nation than that.

        If there is another 9/11 attack tomorrow, do you think the reaction would be any different? Do you think we are no longer a nation, so people would just shrug their shoulders and ignore an attack?

        Since Bush’s economic crash of 2007, we are a nation with 76 consecutive months of positive job growth.

        We are a nation with an unemployment rate one half what it was in 2007 (using the same measurement criteria).

        We are a nation whose economic activity, as measured by the DOW (which is over 18,000 now) is recovering from the 2007 crash, including manufacturing.

        We are a nation whose national budget deficits are shrinking year after year, as has the size our now smaller federal government.

        We as a nation are doing well, actually.

        • Cavepainter July 20, 2016 at 1:05 pm #

          Oh yeah, oh yeah, the typical meme of the Left; all whitey’s fault. Victim class has been made an industry in America, whereby the citizenry has been brow-beat into a political torpor by PC, itself subsequently victimized by having its own true national interest displaced on behalf of trans-national interests. Consequently, national sovereignty and patriotic embrace of Constitutional entitlement exclusive to citizen status is expunged. My message to you is grow up to the fact that our system of government — as originally laid out — is the best ever conceived for balancing the often contradictory needs within the order of human behavior. I’m fed-up with your sanctimonious, narcissistic cry-baby bullshit.

        • JimInFlorida July 20, 2016 at 1:21 pm #

          wpa wpa, where do I begin with you?

          Traditional (and legitimate) nation-states have an organic basis underlying the common agreement to exist in consensus. Blood, land, religion, and language are real ties to form a common body-politic around.

          The U.S. has ALWAYS been a synthetic and alien creation that grew out of the Virginia Company. Good fortune provided a seed population that was solidly WHITE and old-school CHRISTIAN. For a short time after 1776, we enjoyed the fruits of being a sovereign White nation-state that existed for itself and not for the King or the banksters. The bankster-instigated Civil War in 1861 killed the real U.S.A. We’ve been living under a BIG LIE since then.

          The 50 formerly sovereign States have been Corporate Holdings (and administrative districts) of the FOREIGN CITY STATE OF WASHINGTON DC since 1874! The semi-private CORPORATION is literally named, “UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, INCORPORATED.” From 1874 to 1913, the debts that arose from the Civil War and Reconstruction were financed by stealing new territory to cover the principle plus the accruing interest. WHEN THE 48TH STATE WAS ADDED (Arizona), our ability to incorporate new assets hit the wall.

          The Federal Reserve was created the VERY NEXT YEAR to privatize our currency. ALL income power and ability to monetize all underlying assets was surrendered to the banksters. THIS IS NOT THE MARK OF A “NATION” BUT THE MARK OF *****S**L**A**V**E**S***** albeit with limited freedoms. Mostly limited to our consumption habits and VERY LIMITED RIGHTS with respect to the Federal Government and the State powers that are subject to the Feds.

          Therefore, Washington acts as a Managerial Power for the assets held as security for an insolvent collection of 50 Federalized districts. Washington hasn’t acted as a political focal point for the popular will since 1860. The U.S.A, Inc.is the Trustee and, because we are a CORPORATION, they are required to turn a profit for the REAL OWNERS. They will succor us as little as possible.

          Since the U.S.A, Inc. is no longer in the business of making anything, the Ruling Corporation has become a Service Provider in the following ways. Money changing and imperial action to seize foreign assets to grow its underlying base of performing assets and protect what it already holds. Anything that is done to keep We Teh Sheep fed and entertained is overhead.

          In case nobody noticed, when Lord Bush and Viceroy Cheney took away our habeas corpus rights, that was to transfer our organic personhood to our new owners. Our new owners are the ones who hold Title to your Corporation Person (your name in ALL CAPS) AND your organic being! We were sold as SALVAGE ASSETS. It was left to Obama to finalize the transfer. Now we are largely an unproductive burden on their land holdings. We Teh Sheep have been literally PRIVATIZED in the same way that our currency was privatized in 1913!

          On a much lesser note, 76 consecutive months of creating the economic equivalent of Squeegee Men is not my idea of good job growth.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 20, 2016 at 2:20 pm #

            Sounds about right. And when sheep were more profitable than people in Scotland, the people were driven off the land, be it by English landowners or “Scottish Lords”. Ironically, all things Scottish were in vogue at the time, with the English Elite walking around in kilts even as the Scottish nation died. Elite Scottish regiments were fighting for England in the Crimean War at the same time. An utterly defeated people, what little strength had in service of their masters.

            To their credit, some of the Scottish Lords helped their people resettle in Canada, fulfilling their ancient duties to some degree at least. If they had resisted, they wouldn’t have been able to pay the taxes on their estates, and they would have been as homeless as their people.

            One can only shudder at what they plan for us.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 20, 2016 at 2:23 pm #

        You accept, I assume, that these groups will be ethnically homogenous? Even as early America was? With Blacks and Indians fully disenfranchised along with poor Whites? The Polity is only for some, and among that some, only the qualified get to make decisions.

  71. Reagan July 20, 2016 at 10:05 am #

    Americans have basically become a bunch of crybabies.

    • Frankiti July 20, 2016 at 10:57 am #

      We live in a country that takes to the streets en masse with a Pokeman game, but sits on its hands when offered leadership of a Clinton or Trump.

      The problem is thinking we deserve, we are, better.

  72. volodya July 20, 2016 at 11:29 am #

    Even darker prospects are coming from Asia Minor in spades. – Peq

    That place is re-making itself into just another middle-eastern shit-hole run by gangsters.

    Maybe that’s the way the Turkish people want things. Or maybe not. If there’s going to be finger-pointing the Turks need to point at themselves. The Turks created the problems, the Turks have to fix them.

    • Frankiti July 20, 2016 at 11:50 am #

      Don’t worry, they’re religion will guide them.

      • Frankiti July 20, 2016 at 11:51 am #


  73. FincaInTheMountains July 20, 2016 at 12:37 pm #

    “Maybe that’s the way the Turkish people want things.”

    And what the [bleep] Turkish people have to do will all that (the coup)?

    It’s pretty much a secret of Polichinelle that Turkey’s army is run from Washington and that’s where the marching order has come from.

    Which faction of American elite gave the order is anybody’s guess: the Devil himself will break his leg trying to figure out who runs things in Washington these days.

  74. volodya July 20, 2016 at 12:41 pm #

    Ozone, Financial Collapse (driven by the gutting of American family income) is a great bet, other ponies in the race might be racial insurrection, Red vs Blue animosities resulting in secession ie Texit.

    And who knows what write-in candidates await in places like Pakistan and India, two nuclear powers, both infested by terrorists, one dangerously unstable. I know, any nominee has to be American-born but this is the election where rules are broken, where anything goes, where should-be felons stand for election for the highest office, where the parties that purport to stand for this or that are finally understood to stand for nothing of the sort.

    But realistically what we have is a moribund system, eaten by the oligarchic malignancy, Financial Collapse the wretchedly ill body’s last retching.

    It’s not like we haven’t had warnings, a generation of steadily decreasing interest rates – and now zero or even negative rates – akin to the dangerously low blood pressure of a patient in extremis.

    But, as you say, Financial Collapse as the front runner, dwarfs all others.

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  75. Q. Shtik July 20, 2016 at 1:43 pm #

    The late English journalist, Keith Waterhouse, promoted the AAAA, The Association for the Abolition of the Aberrant Apostrophe. – Sean Coleman


    Have you ever heard of the triple A double A (AAA AA)? It’s an organization for people who are driven to drink. OK, I know, that’s an old one.

    But speaking of aberrant apostrophes……. I used to play 8 Ball for money against a very entrepreneurial guy who, among his many ventures, had started an on-line company known as Everything Billiard’s. He showed me his website and I asked him in what sense he conceived that Billiards should be possessive. I might as well have been talking to a brick wall. He said “Whatever! The apostrophe stays!” I said “Fine, as long as you don’t mind looking stupid.”

    • elysianfield July 20, 2016 at 7:18 pm #

      What about the elegant ellilpsis…I know some people with considerable interest in your answer.

      Also, my daddy used to say that a good pool player is the result of a miss-spent youth…just sayin’.

      • Q. Shtik July 20, 2016 at 9:04 pm #

        What about the elegant ellilpsis… – Elysian

        Never heard of it…..has it got something to do with knowing where to strike a ball? – Q

        Also, my daddy used to say that a good pool player is the result of a miss-spent youth…just sayin’ – Elysian

        I believe that line comes from the musical The Music Man – Q.

        • elysianfield July 21, 2016 at 11:52 am #

          “Never heard of it…”

          Ahh, yesss….

          “I believe that line comes from the musical The Music Man”

          It may have been the first time it was ever uttered…in River City….

          • Q. Shtik July 21, 2016 at 2:45 pm #

            Ahh, yesss…. – Elysian


            Help me out here E, what do you mean when you say “Ahh, yesss?” Was I right that it has something to do with knowing where to strike a ball?

          • elysianfield July 22, 2016 at 10:56 am #

            “Ahh, yesss…” I was recognizing your (supposed) wit; the ellipsis is a bit of punctuation, the three dots “…” that represent a pregnant pause, an unfinished thought, a device for timing speech. I over use the construct shamelessly. When you used it to in your reply, I considered it…clever.

          • elysianfield July 22, 2016 at 11:06 am #

            “When you used it to in your reply”

            When you used it in your reply….

        • stelmosfire July 21, 2016 at 11:53 am #

          A good pool shot is either time spent as a misplaced yout or 35 years at the firehouse waiting for an emergency call bouncing bumpers, miscalling shots, and telling tall tales about things past, (especially sexual conquests).!

          • elysianfield July 22, 2016 at 11:03 am #

            I remember pulling into fire houses in Oakland…always a pool table, always someone cooking a gourmet meal in the kitchen, always decent coffee. I actually took and passed the Fire Department Exam about year two into my four years on the OPD…When my name came up, I declined the transfer. A buddy of mine, also on the OPD, whom took the test the same time as I, passed and accepted the position…was two years later killed in an odd traffic accident, on duty. Go figure.

  76. wpa_ccc July 20, 2016 at 3:37 pm #

    [US founders]” solidly WHITE and old-school CHRISTIAN” –JiminFlorida

    The plantations only functioned with Black slaves. The railroads only got built with imported Chinese labor. The food only gets picked with Mexican immigrants.

    If this country depended upon whites, it would go under. Whites are soon to be the minority population. The sooner the better.

    Check out the difference between Christians and deists.


    And America the nation was founded on a self-evident (no God needed) secular (we are not a theocracy) idea of equality (see the Declaration of Independence). America the nation was not founded on blood, land, religion, or language.

    • JimInFlorida July 20, 2016 at 7:40 pm #

      wpa, I admire your persistence. Wrong as usual but, you don’t give up. The delusional energy you’ve tapped into is the same that has powered the New Left for over 50 years. Otherwise, it would have been slain long ago.

      Plantation labor is fungible. Had the mechanized agricultural implements come around a century earlier, importation of slaves would have been unnecessary. The Black contribution is vastly overrated.

      Unlike Whites of today, the Whites of 18th – 19th century America were rugged and able to do the work. Had there been no Jews to buy and sell African slaves from their Muslim masters, the plantations would have been forced to recruit labor from the Old Country and as European immigrants arrived. Of course, they would have exploited BUT, as indentured servants, they would have been freed according to the contract. Unlike freed Blacks, freed Whites would have gone on to add value to the country.

      Without the White Mind to guide the Labor of the time, nothing would have been built.

      As for the foundation of America, that Declaration of Independence wasn’t penned in a vacuum. It arose from centuries of WHITE EVOLUTION that began with the Treaty of Westphalia, Natural Rights, and the Social Contract. It would have NEVER arisen from the Muslims or the Africans. White blood, land, language, and religion ALONE made that Declaration possible!

  77. Janos Skorenzy July 20, 2016 at 4:31 pm #

    My two favorite books: The Art of the Deal by Donald J Trump and the Bible by God – and I’ve never read either one of them in full, except for the New Testament. But those are Trump’s favorite books so they’re mine as well. That’s what it means to be a Disciple or Guru Mukh – the mouthpiece of the Guru. I doubt he’s read them either. It just doesn’t matter. We’re going to win. The Trumps are a new political Dynasty. Don Jr is a Star as is Ivanka. She will be simultaneously the first Female President and the first Jewish President.

    • wpa_ccc July 20, 2016 at 4:38 pm #

      So now you have stopped saying there “is not a dime’s worth of difference between the red and blue parties”?

      Heresy to the CFN dogma!

      They are both still capitalist war parties feeding the pentagon Moloch.

    • Q. Shtik July 20, 2016 at 4:58 pm #

      The Art of the Deal by Donald J Trump


      Funny you should mention………

      Here is an article by The Art of the Deal ghostwriter:


      It is actually scary.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 20, 2016 at 7:28 pm #

        You see the problem, right? Was he lying when he said Trump was a great guy or is he lying now when he says he’s shit? We don’t know. But what we do know is that Schwartz is a liar.

        Can you disagree with Trump’s assessment: He’s very disloyal after I made him a rich man. He has the right to disagree with men and not vote for me, but he should have remained silent.

        Schwartz is loyal to his people. That is the ultimate for almost all Jews. It’s even admirable, but obviously fatal for any greater society.

        Any idea who painted that series of four paintings on the decay and rebirth of Civilization?

        • Elrond Hubbard July 22, 2016 at 9:32 pm #

          “Was he lying when he said Drumpf was a great guy or is he lying now when he says he’s shit? We don’t know.”

          Sure we do: It’s the first one. We know this because before he was being paid, and now he isn’t. If we accept your contention that money buys loyalty, maybe Trump just should have just made him a better offer.

          ‘Any idea who painted that series of four paintings on the decay and rebirth of Civilization?”

          Bob Ross.

  78. Despatch from HQ INGSOC July 20, 2016 at 4:41 pm #

    Vladimir Bhukov
    Minister of Minority Reparations and Majority Replacement (MinRap)
    Airstrip 2
    District 1

    ///cc///:capture of thoughtcrime criminals


    Criminals and fugitives listed last week have yet to be located and are on the run like the rats that they are. Their families, friends and co workers, however, have been rounded up and liquidated! Such is the fate of Enemies of the State. We are particularly interested in the Thought Criminal who call himself ‘Pequiste’, a wag who enquired ‘Will lunch be served’, (in Room 101) It seems this non citizen is not taking us seriously, and does not realize we mean business. Yes, Mr P, lunch is served, an id salad, followed up by a knuckle sandwich. You will find out soon enough what is being served for lunch in Rm 101, all of you.

    Meanwhile, the white enemy is gathered in Cleveland as even as we speak. Go to Cleveland, Comrades! There is your enemy! Destroy those who have kept you down. It is their fault you are ignorant, poor, and rootless. Take your revenge!


    Let that slogan flow sweetly from your lips.

    Comrade Bhukov

    • Frankiti July 20, 2016 at 5:08 pm #

      Is it the xanax mixed with ambien, or the zoloft mixed with clozapine?

      That produces this, y’know, weirdo behavior?

      • pequiste July 21, 2016 at 12:04 am #

        Wow Comrade Bhukov, sorry for jumping the gun on the luncheon thing.

        I guess I lucked out as I did not make enquiries how everyone is expected to be attired:

        – Jacket and tie for men and dresses for ladies?

        – Country club casual for everyone: Bermuda shorts, upscale logo polo shirts and Footjoy golf shoes?

        – Prole utility INGSOC brand jumpsuits for all except party functionaries?

        P.S. Does your note mean I am an enema of the state or that’s going to be my “special treatment: in room 101? If nurse Jeanine is officiating I’m all in,

        P.P.S. Frank’s idea about some pharma phun would be just the ticket for a fabulous gathering. Thorazine for everyone – I’m buying!

        • Despatch from HQ INGSOC July 21, 2016 at 7:24 am #

          ‘Big Nurse’ is in charge. She will take care of all your needs.

      • Despatch from HQ INGSOC July 21, 2016 at 7:55 am #

        We have access to a vast array of pharmaceuticals, Mr. Frankiti, believe me. All kinds, especially the kind that make you talk.

        We are putting them to good use.

        Minister Bhukov MinRap

    • JimInFlorida July 20, 2016 at 10:01 pm #

      Memo from Boris Badenov,
      Mental Health Division (MHD, MiniLuv)

      To: Comrade Bhukov,
      Minister of Minority Reparations and Majority Replacement (MinRap)
      Airstrip 2
      District 1

      Comrade Bhukov!

      The rats will lead our valiant Thought Police to the nests where the rest of the thoughtcriminals are holed up! We have already uncovered numerous locations among the Proles where they are hiding with forbidden books and acting out political crimes i.e. flaunting the fallacy of White identity!

      We have successfully carried out a victorious Hate Week demonstration in Cleveland! Countless enemies of BB have been rounded up and records purged of their existence. Armies of feral children are enthusiastically spying on their parents and turning them in for Racist crimethink.

      Yes, THE TIME IS NOW!!! A new generation of goodthinker children are rapidly coming into view. Their love of BB is practically instinctive; giving us hope that the perfection of BB’s social plan is nigh at hand!

      THE TIME IS NOW!!!!
      Let the slogan flow sweetly from your lips AND THE TRUNCHEON BE THE EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!

      Comrade Boris Badenov
      Region 6 Airstrip 2
      MiniLuv – Mental Health Division

      cc: BB HQ-INGSOC

  79. wpa_ccc July 20, 2016 at 4:47 pm #

    There are few things in life one can predict with certainty, but given the grave events of recent weeks, it is hard to see how deadly gunplay might be avoided at the 2016 Republican convention. –JFK

    Day Three: Still no hint of the violence predicted by JHK

    As of Wednesday, despite widespread worries about violence and the prospect of terrorism at the convention, the streets of Cleveland have been relatively safe.

    A scuffle broke out Tuesday in Public Square, where many of the demonstrations are held, but it was squelched quickly. There also was tension Wednesday afternoon amid reports of an attempted flag burning. But the White People’s convention hasn’t seen the kind of violence some had worried about.

    No shootings. No death. No “deadly gunplay” … just the revelation that Hilary is Lucifer. LOL! I’m registering voters, mostly millennials, Mexicans, and Muslims, and they are not voting for The Donald. In thirty years of doing voter registration I have never seen people so eager to vote as those who want to vote against Donald.

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  80. kyoto motors July 20, 2016 at 4:59 pm #

    James, et al. Have a look at this video:
    And let me know if it’s not articulate enough? not “proper” enough English? I know it’s a quick and snappy summation of things for the sake of popular consumption, but how about we give a listen to normal, straight-talking black people on this? …instead of the host’s projections about how blacks are self-excluding and are therefore blamable victims, apparently ALWAYS at fault when shot by a cop.

    • sprawlcapital July 20, 2016 at 5:18 pm #


      That’s an excellent video. However, I have not seen in our host’s writing, since the summer of 2014, that blacks are ALWAYS at fault when shot by a cop.

    • Frankiti July 20, 2016 at 5:25 pm #

      If the poor murdered feller in Minnesota was a 65 year old white man with a hard Carolinian drawl driving a $50K Eddie Bauer edition pickup, I guarantee you, he would not have been shot as he went for his wallet… and left to bleed out with a child in the backseat… indecipherable English or not.

  81. FincaInTheMountains July 20, 2016 at 5:03 pm #

    President Erdogan accuses Gülen of organizing the coup, and foaming at the mouth demands from Washington his extradition.

    Moreover, this foam from his mouth has reached the base Incirlik, owned by either Turkey, or NATO, or the US, and blocked it completely, not allowing taking out from this base one hundred nuclear bombs, that were originally intended as a gift to guess who.

    And an amazing reconciliation is happening between Vladimir Putin and Erdogan, who, like Nakshidil, the son of Sultan Mohamed II who had almost converted to Orthodoxy along with entire Ottoman Empire, so Erdogan has suddenly rushed into the arms of Russia, and seemingly wants to get out of NATO and join the CSTO and the Customs Union.

    And all that while Erdogan purges Turkey from Gülen’s Deep State, while arresting thousands of judges, police and Army officers. And ten years ago, he has already cleared out the army from the organization “Ergenekon”, which stood on the pan-Turkic positions.

    It comes to speculation that Erdogan himself organized this coup to have an excuse to purge up Turkey from supporters of Gülen, but the authors of these assumptions forget about fighting the Kurds in Turkey, which without the help of the army are impossible to pacify, as well as the Gülen allegedly writing speeches for President Obama. Also, do not forget about Vladimir Putin, who will inevitably demand of him at least to refrain from supporting ISIS, and in terms much tougher than President Obama.

    • FincaInTheMountains July 20, 2016 at 5:07 pm #

      To make the long story short, congratulations to US Department of State for fabulously fucking up another adventure in the Middle East.

      I could feel the deadening hand of Hillary.

      • pequiste July 21, 2016 at 1:07 am #

        Hear! hear! Big bouquets and champagne for John Kerry and Barry O.!

        They sure-as-shit did fuck-up this Turkey thing ROYALLY! (hence the Sultan Recipe I)

  82. malthuss July 20, 2016 at 8:32 pm #

    11 million Negroes in Haiti and millions of them in USA and Canada,


    • pequiste July 21, 2016 at 1:12 am #

      The Hayshanz took a tropical paradise and turned it into the poorest, most primitive, dirtiest and diseased shithole in the western hemisphere.

      The Hayshanz also transformed one of the world great languages – French – and transmogrified it into the unintelligible gibberish of Creole AKA eboniques.

  83. Pucker July 20, 2016 at 9:02 pm #

    Why is it that Hillary has a “Thang” for abusive men?

    “In the final days of the 2000 Senate race, Bill Cosby appeared with Hillary Clinton at an election eve rally in Buffalo, a working class town where a lot of the locals thought Hillary was kind of phony. Although he spent millions of dollars, Congressman Rick Lazio would lose the race, demonstrating how NOT to run against a woman.
    “Cosby was a real asshole from the minute he hit town,” G.D. Parenti, a long time Western New York Democrat who was a volunteer on the Clinton advance team pulling the event together, told me in a recent interview. “He had the best suite in the city, it was nicer than Hillary’s suite. He kept calling it a ‘toilet’ and said the place was a ‘dump,’” said Parenti, a Hillary Clinton supporter.”

  84. Janos Skorenzy July 20, 2016 at 9:09 pm #


    They’re thinking very hard about this. But they might not stop too. After all, the Syrian Rebels (ISIS) are our allies.

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  85. Pucker July 20, 2016 at 9:25 pm #

    The Chinese now make police robot drones which could be deployed in “The Black Community”. They look like R2D2 with a maximum speed of 45 mph with a big giant dildo taser mounted on the front.

    “Meanwhile, an international team of analysts has warned that roughly half of all working personnel in Japan will be replaced with robots in the next twenty years.Researchers from Japan’s Nomura Research Institute (NRI) along with their counterparts from Oxford University have forecast that by 2035 “up to 49 percent of jobs [in Japan] could be replaced by computer systems,” according to Engadget.com.”

    • The problem with robots is this: They will soon be the backbone of the economy.

      And since it is us who work for the economy’s prerogatives, and not the other way around, we will start working so the robots will have things to do.

      Human minds are still great at picking out discrete pieces of useful salvage in a pile of wreckage. An apt description of modern agriculture.

      The principle that has taken hold in my mind is this: We work for the economy, not the other way around. Yet, this is the perception. All the stuff in the grocery stores, or gadgets, everything- we perceive as the effects of a servant laying them down at our feet- the economy.

      Its all the politicians think we care about, and I witness people giving up everything in service of it day after day. Literally, no greater sacrifice is warranted than giving up everything to go to work as much as possible. Whoever gives up the most humanity, most utterly, reaps the greatest rewards.

      Hence the plaintive cries of “who will pick our strawberries or lettuce?” when considering what to do once the illegal immigrants are deported. They will base their political and even life choices on supporting strawberries and cheap hammers. Robots will replace the strawberry pickers, and also the office workers. We are all going to be swept to the side, to compete with each other for a reason to get whatever the economy deems we deserve.

      We serve political machines, and someday, actual machines. Capitalism is a monster, and we are merely cargo cultists. The main doctrine is making sure everyone keeps this system going. Suggest differently and get violently thrown out.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 21, 2016 at 3:31 pm #

        Yes, Capitalism turned humans into machines – and no human can be as good a machine as a machine can be. So we are now becoming defunct equipment. And what does one do with such things except scrap them? Thus the Elite dream about reducing the useless eaters to 500 million worldwide a la the Georgia Guide Stones. Both my brother and I think that’s propaganda: they really intend a much lower number. They own the world and why would they support useless eaters? What do the female worker bees do to the drones once mating season is over? Drive them out of the hive.

        • malthuss July 22, 2016 at 11:02 am #

          Things have changed since the GG were installed.
          The big changes are WWW and Robotics. Both make commoners not so needed.

          The real goal may be under 10 million after the cull.

    • elysianfield July 21, 2016 at 11:40 am #

      “Meanwhile, an international team of analysts has warned that roughly half of all working personnel in Japan will be replaced with robots in the next twenty years”

      Hire them,
      Or feed and House them,
      Or kill them.

      What other options for excess population?

      • Janos Skorenzy July 21, 2016 at 3:37 pm #

        Do you remember that series of paintings the group talked about a few years ago about the renewal and decay of Civilization? If so, do you remember the artist? He’s not obscure and the paintings are famous. I just don’t know much about art.

        • elysianfield July 22, 2016 at 10:49 am #

          The paintings you are referring to;

          Thomas Cole, “The Course of Empire”.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2016 at 2:21 pm #

            Thank you!

        • malthuss July 22, 2016 at 11:05 am #


          • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2016 at 2:22 pm #

            Lighten up a bit. You’re meditating on evil too much. I’ve seen it before and been guilty of it before. Remember, we become what we meditate on.

          • elysianfield July 23, 2016 at 10:42 am #

            “we become what we meditate on”

            Female genetalia?

        • Elrond Hubbard July 22, 2016 at 9:38 pm #

          Margaret Keane.

  86. tucsonspur July 20, 2016 at 10:34 pm #

    They allowed the snake to slither out of the lube pit, sink his fangs and release his venom.

    Rather than endorse Trump, he told the audience to vote their conscience, up ticket and down ticket, thus effectively endorsing the Libertarians.

    Lowest of the creepy crawlers, this repugnant reptile must absolutely be denounced, defanged, and then demoted to lube pit degreaser.

  87. Pucker July 20, 2016 at 10:44 pm #

    Do some “Bong Hits” and then blame it on “White Privilege”.

    Program some robots to excoriate “White Privilege” and advocate for robots and “Community Solutions” in crack and crystal meth neighborhoods.

  88. Pucker July 20, 2016 at 10:48 pm #

    In the near future, many of the harangues against “White Privilege” in the media will be written by robots.

  89. tucsonspur July 20, 2016 at 11:40 pm #

    Regarding the above post on Cruz the Ooze, let me tell you how I really feel. Just in case.

    He’s lower than whale shit buried in the sand at the bottom of the Mariana trench.

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    • wpa_ccc July 20, 2016 at 11:58 pm #

      Yet Trump endorsed Cruz when he said “any of my opponents would make a better president than Hillary”

      Where is Trump’s loyalty to Cruz?

      • messianicdruid July 21, 2016 at 12:15 am #

        You just stated it. He was allowed to give his speech without an endorsement, and slice his own throat.

  90. Pucker July 21, 2016 at 12:33 am #

    “In this environment, 13ers could emerge as the leaders of a Crisis-era populism based on the notion of taking raw action now and justifying it later. A charismatic anti-intellectual demagogue could convert the ad slogans of the Third Turning into the political slogans of the Fourth: “No excuses.” “Why ask why?” “Just do it.” Start with a winner-take-all ethos that believes in action for action’s sake, exalts strength, elevates impulse, and holds weakness and compassion in contempt. Add class desperation, antirationalism, and perceptions of national decline. The product, at its most extreme, could be a new American fascism.”

    “The Fourth Turning”

  91. wpa_ccc July 21, 2016 at 12:39 am #

    Who to believe: Pence or Trump?

    Trump contradicted Pence’s saying that the US has our allies back. Trump says not to count on a defense of white Europe if it is attacked. Trump says there are no automatic security guarantees for the 28 members of NATO. We should just pull our troops out of Europe.

    • pequiste July 21, 2016 at 1:21 am #

      I absolutely agree with you on that singular point wpa-ccc.

      The USSA should pull all permanently stationed military forces out of Europe and let the folks there handle their own defense requirements.

      Why you ask?

      If the leaders of Europe can casually and cavalierly permit an invasion of 2,000,000 Yzlamik and sub-Saharan African invaders; provide for their transport, room and board; and lavish hefty welfare benefits upon them for an indeterminate amount of time, then they, the countries of Europe, can afford to defend themselves.

      • tucsonspur July 21, 2016 at 1:45 am #

        Of course they already can’t defend themselves as proved in Paris, Nice, etc. Self inflicted wounds. And any US troop presence made no difference.

        Defense against a major state player like Russia is not an immediate concern, and Trump, as he’s been known to do, may just be setting the stage for NATO bargaining and reform.

        If they can’t get their act together, maybe Trump can do it for them. Now that would be a leader.

  92. FincaInTheMountains July 21, 2016 at 2:30 am #

    “Hear! hear! Big bouquets and champagne for John Kerry and Barry O.!

    They sure-as-shit did fuck-up this Turkey thing ROYALLY! (hence the Sultan Recipe I)” == pequiste

    Actually, I think that it was a setup for Hillary. First time I see her loosing that badly.

    • Q. Shtik July 21, 2016 at 8:59 am #

      First time I see her [loosing] that badly. – Finca


      Do you get this word wrong EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. to annoy me or do you actually not know?????

      • FincaInTheMountains July 21, 2016 at 9:39 am #

        I know, but don’t remember.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 21, 2016 at 3:33 pm #

        He is a looser as Dee used to say.

  93. wpa_ccc July 21, 2016 at 2:43 am #

    “Of course they already can’t defend themselves as proved in Paris, Nice, etc.” –Tucsonspur

    They can’t. Nor can Israel. Nor can Russia. Nor can Saudi Arabia. Nor can the United States (what other country has had 3,000+ dead in one day?)

    Terrorist attacks can occur at any time, at any place, in any country… and it doesn’t matter how many highly trained, fully armed soldiers you have or how big your “Homeland Security” bureaucracy. You are going to have isolated and sporadic attacks. And you will learn to live with them.

    It doesn’t matter how much anti-terrorist rhetoric you spout. It doesn’t matter how much money you throw at “defense”.

    Donald Trump can do nothing to prevent terrorist attacks. Just as W could not prevent 9/11 and Obama could not prevent San Bernadino.

    • tucsonspur July 21, 2016 at 4:38 am #

      “And you will learn to live with them.” wpa

      Yes, I already gave that answer above. Cope.

      But I wouldn’t say Trump can do nothing. He might do what I would do. Really build up the military, especially anti missile defenses, and make sure the nuclear arsenal is salivating in the silos.

      Even Trump may not think as big as I do, but I would consider establishing a United States of Saudi Arabia. This is war, so let’s make it full, and I mean full, commitment. Nuking Muslim centers of terrorism would not be out of the question. Innocent civilians you say? Better there than here. It’s war, remember.

      Once a few million suspect Muslim terrorists are incinerated, dreams of a caliphate and global conquest will wither, while we’re pissing on the ashes.

      Never happen you say? What’s important is that Trump be ready to kill, to do whatever it takes, to terminate this towel headed trash. I believe that he is.

      I like it. The United States of American Arabia.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 21, 2016 at 3:41 pm #

        What about nuking Mecca? Maybe that would teach them they aren’t the apple of God’s eye. Or maybe it would just make them REALLY mad! Mad enough to kill people!

        • Frankiti July 21, 2016 at 9:14 pm #

          Imagine, a long range bomber with a nuclear payload, a fighter squadron escort, and three targets: Mecca, Western Wall, and the Vatican.

          • Frankiti July 21, 2016 at 9:19 pm #

            Let’s add Salt Lake City and the string of Mega(lomaniac) churches that dot Texas and Arkansas…

          • messianicdruid July 22, 2016 at 8:48 am #

            When Jerusalem gets done that will take care of all the Dispensationalists.

  94. FincaInTheMountains July 21, 2016 at 3:14 am #

    In Warsaw was held a regular NATO summit, the agenda of which was the question of military containment of Russia…

    As expected, no breakthrough happened on this stationary gay pride parade. Part of the crowd hysterically demanded immediate surrender, and part was insisting to continue slow self-torture with sanctions.

    I must confess that I was hoping for some juicy spy scandal, but no, no such luck. A very strange guy with a towel over his head happened to be not an Indian/Gipsy spy but just a Canadian Defense Minister Singh Hadzhidom Sadzhanom.


    This aggressive turkey – mmm I mean Hindu – with an ass hole in his camouflage buttonhole has long been viciously verbally attacking Russia, and now promises to drive a battalion of undefeatable Canadian troops to the Russian borders…

    I believe that the sole purpose of that exercise was of course preserving peace in the world.

    Our domestic Gypsies are laughing their asses off, to the point of shaking out their entire heroin stash.

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  95. FincaInTheMountains July 21, 2016 at 6:25 am #

    Regarding banning the Russian team from Rio Olympics

    I am ashamed for my country! Here take a look; one can see a gal who never took performance-enhancing drugs in her mouth. And this! All inflated with steroids and meldonium! What a shame!


  96. FincaInTheMountains July 21, 2016 at 6:51 am #

    “They can’t. Nor can Israel. Nor can Russia. Nor can Saudi Arabia. Nor can the United States (what other country has had 3,000+ dead in one day?)”

    By the way, according to what I heard, it was more like 30,000 dead on 911.

    And of course they can! Terror attacks is a way of conducting public policy without using more expensive and destructive methods such as full scale war with professional military participation – many more casualties and civil infrastructure destruction.

    Is there still an ashole who believes that a terror attack could occur without knowledge, or direct participation of special services of one kind or another? Oh, c’mon!

    By the way, to completely destabilize the city size of New York all you have to have is about 5,000 “Syrian refugees” of special kind on special drugs.

    I would be very concerned about secret refugee resettlement program which is apparently going on in US for at least 2 years.

  97. Despatch from HQ INGSOC July 21, 2016 at 7:19 am #

    (to slip out of character for a moment)

    to JiminFlorida (Boris Badenov)

    Jim you should be writing professionally somewhere, maybe on one of the conservative blogs with a humorous bent (there are a few) Pretty funny stuff, my friend.

    You are the best!

    Comrade Bhukov

    • sprawlcapital July 21, 2016 at 9:08 am #

      Tucson spur’s metaphor of Cruz the lube pit snake was very good too. Also, the Mariana Trench thing. In fact, there are a great many excellent writers here. That’s why I support this blog via Patreon.

      • tucsonspur July 21, 2016 at 2:15 pm #

        Thank you, glad you enjoyed it!

  98. FincaInTheMountains July 21, 2016 at 9:11 am #

    Last day of Republican Convention

    Cruz declined to endorse Trump, Bushes did not come. The Republican Party is also split as Democratic. Three-party political system?

    1. Party of Trump.
    2. Bush, Cruz, Obama
    3. Hillary, Sanders

    Although Sanders probably will jump Hillary’s ship

    Last speech is a speech of Archbishop Demetrios of the Greek Orthodox Church. Delegates ended convention in a joint prayer under his leadership and in unison uttered Amen!

    Apparently Trump is determined to avoid positioning Russia as sole Orthodox Empire, and will argue that America is as much Orthodox as Russia.

    • JimInFlorida July 21, 2016 at 2:50 pm #

      Shameless pandering by Trump, if that’s the case.

      ZOG Amerika is about as Orthodox as North Korea. Our religion is a polytheistic worship of the Seven Deadly Sins. Our gods are Belphegor, Mammon, and Molech.

      If Putin doesn’t take a potshot at Trump for trying to pull a snatch n’ grab of Russia’s ancient faith, then shame on him.

      • messianicdruid July 22, 2016 at 8:53 am #

        Let “idols” or “false gods” be used rather than names. Let them pass into oblivion.

  99. FincaInTheMountains July 21, 2016 at 11:11 am #

    On Wednesday in Kiev was murdered famous journalist Pavel Sheremet. Another murder of a journalist in Ukraine came as a shock to the establishment, regardless of political orientation.

    West reacted pretty indifferently, correctly judging that it would be impossible to pin that murder on Putin, since Putin has an alibi – he was at that time saving Erdogan’s ass and Sheremet was by no means an ardent anti-Putin journalist, and our Western friends are not interested in any other versions.

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  100. wpa_ccc July 21, 2016 at 12:43 pm #

    “I’m not ‘a servile puppy dog’. Trump broke his loyalty pledge ‘the day this became personal’… ‘I’m not in the habit of supporting people who attack my wife and my father’ –Senator Ted Cruz

  101. wpa_ccc July 21, 2016 at 3:50 pm #

    Shoddy planning, stolen speeches, booing speakers, chaos on the floor, blustery rhetoric that inspires terrifying chants.

    At their convention this week the White People’s Party has provided us with a perfect preview of what a Trump-led America would look like

    Democrats, multicultural and representative of America, are clearly the adults in the room.

  102. FincaInTheMountains July 21, 2016 at 3:51 pm #

    Iran: Erdogan Warned of Incoming Coup by Russian Alert

    Several Arab media outlets, including Rai Alyoum, quoted diplomatic sources in Ankara as saying that Turkey’s National Intelligence Organization, known locally as the MIT, received intel from its Russian counterpart that warned of an impending coup in the Muslim state.


    Putin beat Hillary to it

  103. wpa_ccc July 21, 2016 at 4:27 pm #

    “I hope that when Donald Trump begins to receive intelligence briefings of the nature that I’ve been reviewing for a year and a half now in the Intelligence Committee that he might have a slightly different perspective on Vladimir Putin, because Vladimir Putin is not a friend of the United States,” Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., said during a foreign policy conversation in Cleveland Thursday.

    Cotton made it clear that he disagrees with the presumptive GOP nominee’s comments, such as his criticism of NATO, but stopped short of directly criticizing the nominee. And he justified his support for Trump by saying that President Obama and Hillary Clinton have already enacted pro-Russia policies that need to be reversed.

  104. wpa_ccc July 21, 2016 at 4:35 pm #

    WASHINGTON—Sales of previously owned homes rose to their strongest pace in nearly a decade in June, buoyed by low mortgage rates and an improving economy.

    The pace of existing home sales increased 1.1% last month from May to a seasonally adjusted rate of 5.57 million, the National Association of Realtors said Thursday. That puts them at their highest level since February 2007.

    The economy has recovered. All the indicators say so. Are you better off now than eight years ago? Yes. Thanks to Obama, who rescued the country from a Bush recession in 2007 when we were losing millions of jobs and the economy was on the brink of collapse.

    But the economy did not collapse thanks to Obama… and will not with Bill and Hillary in the White House the next eight years.

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    • FincaInTheMountains July 21, 2016 at 7:55 pm #

      The only one idea that Hillary and Bill have for US economy is the same as they had back in the 90s – put the pedal to the metal on the FED’s printing press and cram down it’s greenish paper output down the throat of other Nations using ISIS and US Army as an appetizers.

      I doubt very much that it could work the second time around, without encountering some long-distance fireworks.

  105. Frankiti July 21, 2016 at 6:21 pm #

    I love it. Just when the country couldn’t think less of ole Canadian Ted, and after desperately appealing to Pentecostals and other wackiest of the wacky Christians, cheating in primaries, attacking wives, and exhuming his dead druggie sister and her chubby estranged kids, he slithers out and does something more incredible; he low classes Trump. His fatal character flaw gets him again. He must win at all cost, he won’t be out tricked and low balled by the Trump, no, he’ll show Trump who has even less class. And with that move we never have to worry about ole slithering Canadian Ted and his bridge balancing wife again.

    • Frankiti July 21, 2016 at 6:25 pm #

      Trump: kills Republicans dead

  106. PeteAtomic July 21, 2016 at 7:59 pm #

    Mr. K,

    Thanks again for the laser like focus on a major societal problem. I enjoy listening to a fellow named Bob Woodson and his Neighborhood Enterprise Project, who has (imho), some good programs on fighting inner city poverty with a motto of “Transforming lives, schools and troubled neighborhoods from the inside out”. His “comeback series” shows examples of his neighborhood enterprise org’s positive stories.
    Not sure if I can link stuff here, but it is found here:

    thanks again, Pete

  107. FincaInTheMountains July 21, 2016 at 8:02 pm #

    Characteristic feature of Salafi Muslims it is that they deny the achievements of Islam from the 9th century to modern times, for which other nations and civilizations have a proper respect.

    And Salafis, while denying these achievements, gladly refer to them and use them as a shield from the wrath of other Nations indignant of their evil deeds, and with no less pleasure directing this anger at traditional Islam.

    And from a formal point of view Islam is impossible without the Sharia law which is a system of jurisprudence based on Koran. And in Islam there are all together 6 traditional legal systems – so called madhhabs – and Salafis deny them all.

    Thus Salafis, also known as Wahhabis or Islamists, from the point of view of traditional Islam are outlaws who interpret the Koran as it suits them, in order to justify their crimes and some Salafi fatwas in the eyes of traditional Muslims are pure blasphemy.

    • pequiste July 21, 2016 at 9:48 pm #

      Thanks for the clarification Finc, however the Sultan RecipE I has put the matter in no doubt as to his position on just what Yzlam iz:

      “˜These descriptions are very ugly, it is offensive and an insult to our religion. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam. Islam is Islam and that’s it.”

      Recip Tayyip Erdogan (The Sultan) Milliyet, Turkey, August 21, 2007

      Clear as gin to me, hence my very strong aversion to Yzlam, Islam, Mohammadanism, Saracenism, Wahabism, or any of the other main legal schools, sects or off-shoots of the crescent and scimitar 7th Century warlord program.

  108. ozone July 21, 2016 at 8:04 pm #

    Hey Cop-suckers,
    Neither behavioral therapist Charles Kinsey, nor his charge Rinaldo were angels. Unfortunately, justice could not be served because the ‘threaten

    • ozone July 21, 2016 at 8:07 pm #

      …because the ‘threatened’ cop crouching behind his cruiser with his AR was a thoroughly shitty shot. Too bad, no death sentence, just wounding. Look people, if you’re going to carry out extra-judicial

      • ozone July 21, 2016 at 8:09 pm #

        …killings, get somebody that knows how to shoot. (…And don’t ever hit ‘enter’ until ready to post…)

      • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2016 at 2:36 am #

        Yeah the Black got as down as one can get – and they still shot him. An unbelievably bad call that ties right into Black paranoia. But it will turn out to be the best day in that man’s life. He just hit the ghetto lottery. He’s going to make millions. The idiot cop needs to be fired.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2016 at 2:31 am #

      Kinsey? Not angels? What do you mean? Was Kinsey doing some kind of sexual therapy or research with Rinaldo? Is that why he was shot?

  109. FincaInTheMountains July 21, 2016 at 9:01 pm #

    Stephen F. Cohen on The John Batchelor Show?

    Meanwhile, at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, Trump representatives rejected an attempt by cold warriors to write into the party platform a promise to increased US military aid to Kiev, reinforcing earlier statements by Trump that he, unlike Hillary Clinton, is pro-détente.

    In response, cold warriors confirmed that there is indeed a new Cold War by echoing an ugly feature of the preceding one—McCarthyism.

    They accused the Trump campaign of being in cahoots with Putin, even having received money from Moscow.

    Cohen, who has argued for more than 10 years that Washington policy was leading to a renewed Cold War with Moscow, points out that the return of Cold-War Olympic politics and McCarthy-like slurs scarcely leave any doubt about the nature of today’s US-Russian relations and the vital importance of a new détente.


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  110. wpa_ccc July 21, 2016 at 11:19 pm #

    I am so happy Trump accepted the nomination. This was my dream. This will be a rout much larger than McCain or Romney, both of whom Republicans said were going to win. Trump will join them as a loser in November.

  111. wpa_ccc July 21, 2016 at 11:43 pm #

    There are few things in life one can predict with certainty, but given the grave events of recent weeks, it is hard to see how deadly gunplay might be avoided at the 2016 Republican convention.

    Four days of peaceful protest. No “deadly gunplay” No murders. No shootings. No one killed. No one wounded. No “race war” (a fantasy in the minds of white racists like Janos)

    At 7 p.m. officials said there were no arrests Thursday, leaving the total arrest count at 23, most from two flag-burning incidents on Wednesday.

    By comparison, nearly 300 people were arrested during an anti-war march during the first day of the GOP Convention in St. Paul, Minnesota, in 2008. In New York City in 2004, nearly 1,000 protesters were arrested on one day.

    The mood this week never produced anything resembling the massive protests of the past. Another failed JHK prediction. No economic collapse. No DOW at 4,000. No Y2K. etc. etc.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2016 at 2:33 am #

      Alex Jones attacked Communists and Turks – but failed in his attempt to start WW3 or a Race War.

      • malthuss July 22, 2016 at 11:12 am #

        Why would he want a race war?

        Did you read the piece at OO about the 14 year old ‘poet’?

        • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2016 at 2:26 pm #

          It was a joke, but in fact Jones did seem to try and start a fight with some Communists – but then played it like he was the one being attacked.

          He also harassed a Turkish Ape named Cenk who I don’t know much about. But people say the guy is an incredible hater of Whites and Western Culture.

  112. wpa_ccc July 21, 2016 at 11:50 pm #


    Kinsey, a behavioral therapist at the care facility, had been working to settle his patient when police arrived to investigate what authorities said was a 911 call about a suicidal “white-Hispanic” man with a gun. The supposed gun apparently was the toy truck.

    Rivera said the officer wasn’t aiming for Kinsey when he fired.

    He couldn’t explain why, after the shooting, officers rolled the bleeding Kinsey to his side and handcuffed him.


  113. wpa_ccc July 22, 2016 at 12:09 am #

    Proof Trump in an out-of-touch billionaire. He just gave an hour and 15 minute speech.

    Trump didn’t mention Social Security once. His only reference to security was to stoke fear of immigrants.

    Trump didn’t mention the minimum wage once. His only reference to wages was to stoke anger toward immigrants.

    Trump didn’t mention Wall Street banks once. His only mention of a “wall” was about building one — as he again equated immigrants with gangs, violence, and drugs.

    Trump is going to lose big in November.

    • JimInFlorida July 22, 2016 at 6:46 am #

      Trump will win because Hillary will LIE about Social Security and the minimum wage. She’ll be very careful about mentioning Wall Street since her hands are all inside the pants of the banksters.

      Trump wins by a 5% margin because people would rather have clusterfuck billionaire, who can be contained, than the smooth well-oiled machine of PURE EVIL that works for Hillary.

  114. Pucker July 22, 2016 at 1:45 am #

    “Today everything is so complex as to be incomprehensible. What sense does it make for men to walk on the moon while other men are waiting on welfare lines, or in Vietnam killing and dying for a corrupt dictatorship in the name of freedom? These are the days when man has his hands on the sublime while he is up to his hips in the muck of madness. The establishment in many ways is as suicidal as some of the far left, except that they are infinitely more destructive than the far left can ever be. The outcome of the hopelessness and despair is morbidity. There is a feeling of death hanging over the nation. Today’s generation faces all this and says, “I don’t want to spend my life the way my family and their friends have. I want to do something, to create, to be me, to ‘do my own thing,’ to live.”

    “Rules for Radicals”, Saul Alinsky (1971)

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  115. Pucker July 22, 2016 at 1:58 am #

    Hillary’s mentor:

    “The young react to their chaotic world in different ways. Some panic and run, rationalizing that the system is going to collapse anyway of its own rot and corruption and so they’re copping out, going hippie or yippie, taking drugs, trying communes, anything to escape. Others went for pointless sure-loser confrontations so that they could fortify their rationalization and say, “Well, we tried and did our part” and then they copped out too. Others sick with guilt and not knowing where to turn or what to do went berserk. These were the Weathermen and their like: they took the grand cop-out, suicide. To these I have nothing to say or give but pity—and in some cases contempt, for such as those who leave their dead comrades and take off for Algeria or other points.”

    “Rules for Radicals”, Saul Alinsky (1971)

    • messianicdruid July 22, 2016 at 9:15 am #

      “There are many white people in this country, especially the younger generation, who realize that the injustice that has been done and is being done to black people cannot go on without the chickens coming home to roost eventually. And those white people, even if they’re not morally motivated, their intelligence forces them to see that something must be done. And many of them would be willing to involve themselves in the type of operation that you were just talking about.

      For one, when a white man comes to me and tells me how liberal he is, the first thing I want to know, is he a nonviolent liberal, or the other kind. I don’t go for any nonviolent white liberals. If you are for me and my problems – when I say me, I mean us, our people – then you have to be willing to do as old John Brown did. And if you’re not of the John Brown school of liberals, we’ll get you later – later.” Malcom X 1965


  116. Pucker July 22, 2016 at 2:04 am #

    Hillary Alinsky 2016

    “What I have to say in this book is not the arrogance of unsolicited advice. It is the experience and counsel that so many young people have questioned me about through all-night sessions on hundreds of campuses in America. It is for those young radicals who are committed to the fight, committed to life. Remember we are talking about revolution, not revelation; you can miss the target by shooting too high as well as too low. First, there are no rules for revolution any more than there are rules for love or rules for happiness, but there are rules for radicals who want to change their world; there are certain central concepts of action in human politics that operate regardless of the scene or the time. To know these is basic to a pragmatic attack on the system. These rules make the difference between being a realistic radical and being a rhetorical one who uses the tired old words and slogans, calls the police “pig” or “white fascist racist” or “motherfucker” and has so stereotyped himself that others react by saying, “Oh, he’s one of those,” and then promptly turn off.”

    “Rules for Radicals”, Saul Alinsky (1971)

    • Pucker July 22, 2016 at 2:42 am #

      “Squeal Boy! Squeal!”

      – “Deliverance” (1972)

  117. Pucker July 22, 2016 at 2:14 am #

    “Trump! Trump! Trump!”

    “There’s another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevski said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and chance the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution.”

    “Rules for Radicals”, Saul Alinsky (1971)

  118. FincaInTheMountains July 22, 2016 at 3:49 am #

    Clear as gin to me, hence my very strong aversion to Yzlam, Islam, Mohammadanism, Saracenism, Wahabism, or any of the other main legal schools, sects or off-shoots of the crescent and scimitar 7th Century warlord program. == pequiste

    Islam in the Middle Ages, has proved its ability to stop militancy and thirst for murder among the people who adopted it, and Quran’s ability to be the basis of civilization which could be admired.

    Suffice it to say that Western Europeans learned about the theology of Saint Maximus the Confessor not from Eastern Christians, but from Muslims and Jews in Spain, where they fled from persecution in Western Europe.

    Thomas Aquinas, restoring not only the connection with antiquity, but the Christianity in the West, after the anti-Christian pogroms in Europe in the second half of the 12th and the first half of the 13th centuries, based his works of Arab commentators of antiquity and the Cappadocian Fathers (Basil the Great, Gregory of Nyssa and Gregory the Theologian )

    You could say that the Western Christian theology Europeans received from Muslims and this predetermined closeness to Islam of not only Catholic, but especially Protestantism.

    In the future, it made possible for Protestants, after they got to the Gulf, to come up with the Muslim version of Protestantism, which was easily adopted by plunged into barbarism, but not forgotten their former glory Arab tribes living in the Arabian Peninsula.

    Thus the followers of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab al-Tamimi, also known as Salafists, who decided at the turn of the 18th and 19th centuries that they are the True Muslims, are really the followers of the Swiss, who in the middle of the 16th century imagined that they are the True Christians.

    • JimInFlorida July 22, 2016 at 6:58 am #

      Islam in North Africa was beneficial for a time. You have to go all the way back to the Mali Empire of the 13th and 14th centuries to find a Black nation that achieved the African equivalent of a full set economy, high arts, education, exploration, comprehensive laws, religious harmony, social and political stability. Mansa Musa was the star of the age, brought Mali to its peak, and was a devout Muslim.

      But, Mansa Musa was feeling ghetto rich and went on a huge goodwill tour and pilgrimage to Mecca. He spent money as fast as he could to show off the wealth of Mali and how rich he was. He built a mosque every week on his tour. The massive giveaways caused high inflation everywhere he went. In the end, he spent all the wealth he brought with him and had to borrow gold from the Jewish moneylenders in Cairo at high interest to get home.

      Mali was more developed than most European nation of the time and, the Giveaway Tour to Mecca (1324-1325) broke Mali’s back. It took another 16 years (four years after the death of Mansa Musa in 1337) before Mali fell into financial ruin and the necessarily stingy rule of Suleyman Keita.

      Black Africa never repeated the epic achievement of 13th-14th century Mali. The glory days of Islam, as an enlightened way for the children of Ishmael and Ham, ended there.

      • malthuss July 22, 2016 at 11:11 am #

        Blacks are mostly unable of functioning at the same level
        of Yellows.

        Blacks are a failure, when compared to other races.

        That fact is not lost on all races, except liberal [dumb[ Whites.

        Even many Blacks know their race runs last [pun intended].

  119. Q. Shtik July 22, 2016 at 4:19 am #

    Trump will join them as a loser in November. – wpa


    Who ya gonna believe, wpa or Michael Moore?

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  120. forkboy01 July 22, 2016 at 5:44 am #

    man, bitter white bitches congregate again.

    far more well reasoned analysis:

    • malthuss July 22, 2016 at 11:15 am #

      If you fall for this shit, you really are stupid; from yr linkie;

      Of all of the unarmed men shot and killed by police in 2015, 40 percent of them were black, even though black men make up just 6 percent of the nation’s population.

      [oh boo hoo]

      • malthuss July 22, 2016 at 11:16 am #

        will kill over hair weaves.
        The city of Cleveland just gave $6 million dollars to the parents of Tamir Rice. Tamir Rice was the 12-year-old negro who was shot by police as the small negro was waving a pistol around in a park. It turns out that the pistol was some training or fake pistol, that had the orange tip denoting such a weapon, removed by the young negro.

        I can only imagine that the money awarded to the family was compensation because the police should never shoot at a 12-year-old negro. Even if the 12-year-old negro is waving a gun. Because it is unimaginable that a 12-year-old negro would shoot anyone.

        Here is a recent story wherein a 13-year-old negro female, with hoodie, enters a hair extension store in Missouri and shoots two elderly workers.
        The diminutive negro was angry that she and her friend had been ejected earlier from the store for trying to shoplift weaves. They will kill you over hair weaves.


        12 and 13-year-old negroes are capable of shooting people and it happens quite regularly.

  121. pequiste July 22, 2016 at 9:28 am #

    “Islam in the Middle Ages, has proved its ability to stop militancy and thirst for murder among the people who adopted it, and Quran’s ability to be the basis of civilization which could be admired.”

    Yzlamik excellence in architecture, applied arts, calligraphy and carpet making, or even Turkish cuisine, should not ever be confused with the warlike nature of Yzlam. Like Sultan RecipE I said “Islam is Islam.”

    In Western Europe, at the commencement of the Middle Ages, the Frankish king CHarles Martel found it necessary to defeat the invading forces of the Umayyad Caliphate under Al- Ghafiqi at Tours. Think about a world without French wine for a moment. Good thing The Hammer won.

    Tamurlane of the Transoxiana region of central Asia, during the late MIddle Ages (1370-1405) is legendary for his military prowess and brutal butchery. Towers of skulls, the near extinction of Christianity in regions of his empire and some estimate 17 million deaths as a result of his conquests.

    The Ottoman Empire ws busy fulfilling its own manifest destiny by conquest of the Levant and most importantly the capital of the Byzantine Empire – Constantinople. All this commencing around 1300. Christian Europe and its culture was saved again from the tender mercies of the Turks at Lepanto under the legendary leadership of Don John of Austria.

    We can talk about the preservation of scholarship,history philosophy and theology by the Yzlamik culture in the Medieval World all we want. It was, however, only by the brave and bloody defense of the West by Christian civilization that made continuity of Christianity in Europe possible. Yzlam is the faith of the warlord Mohammed and its world view is to take over the whole world.

    • FincaInTheMountains July 22, 2016 at 5:55 pm #

      Is that why the Crusaders sacked the city of Constantinople, the capital of the Christian-controlled Byzantine Empire during the Fourth Crusade?

  122. FincaInTheMountains July 22, 2016 at 9:41 am #

    Olympic games of survival


    After a sports court dismissed the case of Russian athletes, we heard opinions, even from serious people, that insidious Americans thus cleared the way for their athletes to the Olympic gold medals.

    Pretty strange conclusions

    I somehow feel that all that fuss is preparation for real war, not for the competitions in the stadiums of Rio de Janeiro.

    A terrible thing happened: the world is ripe for the Third World War, over the last seventy years, the memory of World War II completely erased. That is why the careless and constantly losing Poles once again calling the fire on themselves, imploring Americans to place their weapons to threaten Russia. The last time they were making plans together with the Germans to march on to the hated Russia.

    The tragedy of September 1, 1939, when the Polish elites have suddenly realized that they were elementary taken for a ride, could be repeated again, but this time on a much more catastrophic level. Most likely, if there will be war, which they crave, Poland will cease to exist forever.

    However, Russia does everything so the war does not start, and then Poland and the Baltics, and Ukraine, and the Old World, must be grateful for Russia not giving in to provocations.

    These include not only the deployment of NATO battalion to calm phobias of Eastern Europe, but also, of course, the doping scandal.

  123. barbisbest July 22, 2016 at 11:48 am #

    Dark prospects.. Hmmm. Mike pence is more of a threat to this country than trump. Think theocracy. How stupid can people be? If trump cares about bringing jobs back to the u.s. then I’m the pope. How dum are people If you or someone you know gets social security thank a democrat. If you get a two day weekend. Thank a democrat. If you like child labor laws thank a democrat. Most legislation passed to benefit the average person was essentially put forth by democrats! They would work the average person 7 days a week for nothing. Wake up idiots.

    • volodya July 22, 2016 at 11:59 am #

      You’re correct in what you say Barb.

      But I would add that for bank de-regulation, thank a Democrat, for advancing the cause of offshoring, thank a Democrat.

      Keep in mind the money that Hill and Bill supposedly got for speeches. And keep in mind who and where it came from.

      That kind of dough (150 million last I heard) never comes without strings. It’s just plain contrary to common sense to think otherwise.

      For the sake of her own self-interest and self-preservation, a President Hillary Rodham Clinton will have to keep uppermost in her mind who she owes for that huge pile of loot.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2016 at 2:12 pm #

        No she’s not because she’s conflating Trump and Pence, and Trump and the Republican mainstream. Trump is a Nationalist and believes in social programs. Cruz, Bush, McCain are something utterly different. And Pence is a third thing.

        She’s a woman – driven by emotion. In her case, mostly aversion and hatred.

  124. Q. Shtik July 22, 2016 at 12:01 pm #

    St Elmo and Elysian,

    The first time I ever played pool was in a firehouse in West Collingswood, NJ. I was 12 or 13 years old. They rented the table at $0.60/hr. They sold treats from a freezer chest and my best friend soon acquired the nickname “Ice Cream” but the guy running the place called me “Shit-heels.” I didn’t know why he didn’t like me but then I figured he was offended by me telling him he shouldn’t use a preposition at the end of a sentence.

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  125. barbisbest July 22, 2016 at 12:03 pm #

    Pence makes Palin look like a progressive. Why do you think trump chose pence. To get the evangelical vote. Does anyone thinkmalania tramp would have taken up with trump if he was middle class. Yet she stood up there and talked about hard work. What a joke. That woman is frightening. Take a look at her eyes. Scary.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2016 at 2:08 pm #

      Yes, but don’t worry about him, Trump is President and he didn’t even mention God, but did mention protecting the Gays and Pervs against Islam.

      Melania doesn’t come from money, but worked her way up using her natural asset: Beauty. Now just be honest and admit that’s what you can’t stand about her. People will respect you more if you’re honest.
      If you want to hate a rich bitch, hate Ivanka.

      • Elrond Hubbard July 22, 2016 at 9:58 pm #

        Janos: “Drumpf is President…”

        Counting chickens much? Mind your tenses, please.

  126. volodya July 22, 2016 at 12:05 pm #

    This just in from zerohedge: wikileaks just released more than 19,000 emails they say is part of their Hillary Leaks series


  127. barbisbest July 22, 2016 at 12:16 pm #

    Whoever replied to me about the bad things democrats have done. I know very well how corrupt democrats are. I wanted sanders for these reasons. I know full well. But it is up to people to fix their government. I can’t remember who said that. One more thing. Trump and Giuliani. Stood there and said they are the party that will keep us safe.. Oh really who was in office when 9-11 happened? Democrats are the new republicans as republicans went off the charts! Here’s to the one party system!

    • Cavepainter July 22, 2016 at 12:37 pm #

      You people just keep going on,..and on,….and on. We don’t have time for this. Human survival is on the brink and coincidence has the biggest hand to play in this fateful game. Humanity’s very small hand in the game is those few remaining spots on the earth’s surface not suffering population overload. It’s not only about all the nukes lying about and the zany zealots anxious to pick them up for getting an upper hand, but collapse of sustainability everywhere. Can all the crap about recorded history (particularly just the past several thousand years), as a specie we’ve breached the point where it’s too late for the country-western lyrics “somebody did somebody wrong song” – hell, the Neanderthal was wiped out 30,000 years ago, and ever since encounters between disparate groups have more usually resulted in one slaughtering the other. For certain the most dangerous threat now to human survival is the zany notion afoot that all eight billion of human population can climb onto those few remaining locations not already overloaded. The only possible trump card (no pun intended) to be played is that offered by Western Culture’s more objectively scientific examination of natural phenomena, including human behavior (disinclined toward mystical interpretation, that is). So, wpa-ccc, all you’re garbage about racism, no borders, no national sovereignty, and surrendering national identity is about to cause to tip over the only life boat yet afloat for even a small part of humanity.

      • Q. Shtik July 22, 2016 at 1:54 pm #

        as a [specie] we’ve breached the point…


        money in the form of coins rather than notes.

      • Frankiti July 22, 2016 at 5:08 pm #

        The most dangerous threat to humanity is the persistent belief that humanity can provide the answer. That a human solution is what eludes us. We need to return to the watering hole. Our attempts to live apart from it has proved deadly for us, those at the hole, and the hole itself.

    • volodya July 22, 2016 at 12:52 pm #

      Hi Barb, it was me that replied. My aim isn’t to shoot down what you say because I agree with the meat of your arguments.

      The gist of what I’m claiming is that there’s now no substantial difference between the two parties and that the so-called culture wars and who uses what bathroom – as Peter Thiel said during his speech at the RNC – are distractions from the real business at hand.

      As you would know Barb the real business at hand is MONEY, more money for the already rich, less for the already poor, and finding ways, legal or not, to get any money earned or squirreled away by Mom and Pop who work or used to work in the formerly industrialized US heartland.

      That’s the agenda Barb, if you listen to Paul Ryan and his ilk when they talk about “reforming” entitlements. It’s not about “reforming”, but rather elimination. To the extent that it IS about reforming, it’s really about privatizing, that is, giving Wall Street a chance to pillage your retirement money. But that’s not to assume that Democrats wouldn’t be OK with it. They surely would be as no absurdity or outrage doesn’t pass muster regardless of what party controls what arm of government.

      As far as who was in power when the twin towers came down, keep in mind that the operation was planned during Bill’s term in office. That’s not absolve Bush of his idiocies, especially given spectacular displays of incompetence in Iraq and Afghanistan, but rather to point out that Republicans have no monopoly on idiocy.

      For example, it was Hillary that presided over the overall Libya fubar and then the Benghazi disaster. Let’s not even talk about her handling of her State Dept emails. Or the Obama administration declining to prosecute what is on the face of it gross negligence in handling of records and communications.

      If you have more faith in Democrats over their counterparts, well, that’s a judgement call that you’re entitled to make.

  128. Q. Shtik July 22, 2016 at 1:01 pm #

    I am guessing that, short of a bomb going off in the Wells Fargo Center in Philly next week, the Dem Convention will be considered a total ‘snooze.’

  129. volodya July 22, 2016 at 1:24 pm #

    This just in: mass shooting in Munich shopping mall. Ten shot, 15 shot according to another media source, at least one dead, gunman escaped into underground station.

    Nobody yet knows identity or motive of shooter. So, lay your bets…

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  130. Q. Shtik July 22, 2016 at 1:34 pm #

    I have read that French Prez Hollande has a barber on retainer for $11K per month. (This guy is a socialist?).

    I, on the other hand, have my wife on retainer at $0 per month. She has cut my hair free of charge for more than 20 years.

    I also drive a 14 year old Ford Focus (stick) and I have bought one cup of coffee at Starbucks in my entire life (regular with milk and Sweet’N Low) .

    I hate to hear about people pissing away money.

    • volodya July 22, 2016 at 1:42 pm #

      Heard the same thing. 11Gs? Hollande has got rocks in his head.

      This kind of shit delegitimizes governing elites, especially supposed Socialists.

    • Frankiti July 22, 2016 at 1:57 pm #

      I love to hear about fools being separated from their money.
      If you can get someone to pay you 10,000 Euros a month for a cut, good for you. If you can get someone to pay you almost $4.00 daily for an over-roasted drip coffee, good for you.

    • JimInFlorida July 22, 2016 at 4:49 pm #

      It’s good to be a single man who escaped the marriage noose and never had any kids. I don’t piss away my money but, it’s nice being able to buy something useful, or of decent quality, whenever I want.

      ZOG Amerika is completely toxic to marriage, families, and White Men in general. What madman would get married nowadays???

      • Frankiti July 22, 2016 at 9:28 pm #

        ZOG America? Really?

        • Elrond Hubbard July 22, 2016 at 10:04 pm #

          Yeah, really. JimInFlorida is all about that nonsense, haven’t you noticed?

          • elysianfield July 24, 2016 at 11:18 am #

            “Yeah, really. JimInFlorida is all about that nonsense”

            Frank, Elrond, et al;

            Does untoward and undue political influence equal a Zionist Occupied Government? I don’t really know, but I do know that SOMEONE has to rule the world…might as well be them. Can you pick another group, a viable one, that would be preferable? Islamic? Pentecostal? Catholic/Jesuit? Marxist?
            Maybe the Latter Day Saints? I don’t consider this a canard…there will always be someone pulling the strings, gathering the wealth, deciding our future. I am not a Zionist, do not get their newsletter, own no T-shirt. I loathe what the Zionists are doing in Palestine…but for our circumstances…it could be worse….

  131. volodya July 22, 2016 at 1:38 pm #

    Update: possible second shooter in Munich shopping mall rampage. How long before ISIS takes credit?

  132. pequiste July 22, 2016 at 2:08 pm #

    Who else would go into a perfectly normal shopping mall (Munich this time) and shoot up the place for their version of obedience to deity?

    You all know who……

    Every one of these Yzlamik over exuberance events is a free advertisement for Trump.

    Maybe even the re-introduction of hardcore fascism European style could occur. Not in France – that would be a Vichy version collaborating but not really getting any clothes dirty,, but yes the goose steppers would know very well how to fix this problem. They might even have a final solution.

    Returning to a Soviet style for the other team would also have plenty of savoir-faire in this regard.

    • volodya July 22, 2016 at 2:33 pm #

      Well, isn’t the usual m.o. for these nutbars a gun and a suicide vest?

      OK, I know what you’re going to say, not all of them look forward to the promise of virgins in the afterlife. The prospect of virgins in this life is more enticing. In which case I would applaud as should all good politically correct progressives. Because wouldn’t this go to show that we shouldn’t generalize about people? Wouldn’t this be an example of “diversity”? Maybe not the type so beloved by campus progressives, you know, uniformity in thinking and outlook, sameness of political allegiance. But a step nonetheless in the right direction. Especially if, in addition to being unwilling to blow themselves up, the shooters come from different ethnic or racial groups. Surely that would be a triumph.

      • pequiste July 22, 2016 at 8:11 pm #

        The murderers are not nutbars V. They are Yzlamik jihadis.

        Angela Merkel has the blood of innocent Germans on her hands and the sooner the Germans wake up to the existential threat the Yzlamik invasion poses the sooner it can be stopped.

        Perhaps the Europeans will find enough guts to vote for the nationalist parties and let some chips fall where they may:

        – Austria has a mulligan with Hofer and the Freedom Party poised to sweep away the current leftist chancellor.

        – Will France finally put a Le Pen into power and stop the Yzlamik killing there?

        – Germany’s Alternative for Germany with Frauke Petry will have a very good chance at breaking into the big time with everyday a new Yzlamik attack on Das Volk.

        – Geert Wilders of the Netherlands has been warning the West for a considerable time. The message should have a breakthrough when a prestige jihadi attack kills many Dutch.

        Unfortunately that how it works in a civilization that has everyone living in their own media driven ideoscapes coupled to state sponsored “Liberal” education and “progressive” propaganda programmes. The wake up call is harsh bloody.


  133. beantownbill. July 22, 2016 at 2:31 pm #

    I have to agree with Cavepainter’s recent post. The primary issue is overpopulation and the resultant damage to the environment in all its various forms. Even though I’m an optimist, it gets harder and harder for me to deal with people’s refusal to see things the way they really are.

    Racial issues are bread and circuses, Kabuki theatre and sleight-of-hand. So is politics. How is it important which one of two sociopaths becomes president? Arguing back and forth, violently, about minor differences in human populations. Really?

    What about freshwater reservoirs and other natural resources being drawn down, climate change, ocean dead zones, loss of topsoil, and other vital issues too numerous to mention? What about preparing for how we’re going to react to severe population loss, which is probably inevitable?

    I don’t give a shit which liar becomes president. The end result will be the same, albeit the paths taken would vary a little.

    If we spent our energy focusing on real issues instead of concentrating on how to kill each other, maybe we’d come out ok.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2016 at 3:07 pm #

      So it’s all the same to you which race wins prime territory and survives in style or otherwise? And that goes for Jews too, right? Nothing special, jus folks. It’s all the same to you if the Arabs take Palestine, right?


      David Duke just announced his candidacy. He will be point and take the hits, allowing Trump to seem moderate. Thus we shift the Overton Window to the Right – and win back our Home

      • malthuss July 22, 2016 at 4:18 pm #

        The wall.

        The occupied [stolen] land.

      • Frankiti July 22, 2016 at 4:49 pm #

        You’re one creepy imbecile.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2016 at 6:50 pm #

          You are Hive. Tribe. The Echo. ((())). My Jdar is literally going off the chart.

          • Frankiti July 22, 2016 at 9:27 pm #

            You are presumptuous. Paranoid. The <<>>.
            My hate-dar is at one long sonic piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing.

        • Elrond Hubbard July 22, 2016 at 10:06 pm #

          Don’t make the mistake of underestimating Janos’ intelligence. He isn’t an imbecile, he’s evil.

          • Frankiti July 23, 2016 at 11:49 am #

            He is educated, a Harvard grad, but yet he’s an imbecile. Particularly in the realm of logic. No True Scotsman, tu quoque, and non causa pro causa are among his favorite forms of argument. He does have a way with words though, and the gilt is all that glitters.

    • Frankiti July 22, 2016 at 4:45 pm #

      Humans persist in believing that a human future will be better, that it has to be. Because, as I so often repeat, humans and their linear concept of time associate the passage of time alone with progress. Humans are also bound by certain inherent constraints, namely, that humanity, that human life, is always sanctified. That it is superior. That specieism is law of the universe. That humanity comes before all other life on earth and the planet as well. Humans must go on, even at the expense of all other life and the planet. Humanity must persist, unabridged. The solution, is of course, that humanity will move on, it must escape its earthy confines. The paradox is that humanity, cannot, at least the memo sapiens variety living today. It will be augmented, it will be modified, it will be evolved, into something else. This is one bright hope of “techno-narcissism”; that an evolved species will take the reins. Until then, the simpletons here will be at each other’s throats with partisan politics, with racism, with hate, firmly believing that one type of human or another will be better, will do things better. Totally oblivious to the shortcomings that are all and always all to human. I admit, it’s fun to poke at them, but that’s what we humans do, we poke and prod and let the animals amuse us.

      • Frankiti July 22, 2016 at 4:46 pm #


        • Frankiti July 22, 2016 at 4:46 pm #

          homo sapiens

          • Frankiti July 22, 2016 at 4:47 pm #

            too human

  134. elysianfield July 22, 2016 at 2:44 pm #

    At the risk of being pilloried by the readership I have decided to post that, instead of voting against Hillary, I will be voting for Trump. A minor distinction, but certainly one of conscience.

    I have formed an impression that Trump is not stupid, that he has played the media to his ultimate advantage…his clownish buffoonery, stilted, simplistic language, and truculence, has provided him with the billion dollars’ worth of free airtime that the media has, to their disadvantage, provided. Was it Hitler or Goebbels who said that news coverage, even if negative, is valuable?

    The veil dropped last night…He called for the ending of political correctness, he demanded law and order, he stopped just short of calling a spade a…spade. Our Host is correct in his assessment of Trump, he will be our corn-pone Hitler. Can we do better? Not at this late date. We paid for the ticket, and now we are going to take the ride

    We are truly rolling the dice….

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    • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2016 at 3:09 pm #

      Hail Victory, Comrade!

    • Q. Shtik July 22, 2016 at 4:14 pm #

      stilted, simplistic language, and [truculence], has provided him… – Elysian


      This is my only anecdote concerning the word truculent:

      When Howard Cosell said Muhammad Ali was “truculent” Ali instantly responded “I don’t know what truculent means but if its good that’s me.”


      • Q. Shtik July 22, 2016 at 4:17 pm #


        if it’s good, I’m that.

    • FincaInTheMountains July 22, 2016 at 4:23 pm #

      No, Elisian, not like Hitler – more like Mussolini.


      There is a huge difference between Fascist Mussolini and National Socialist (Nazi) Hitler.

      Mussolini represented European White Project, while Hitler, obviously, Black. The great tragedy of the WWII was temporary alliance between White and Black conceptual projects, which always lead to collapse and war with Russia.

      • Frankiti July 22, 2016 at 4:54 pm #

        Don’t forget the generalisimo’s version of the falange. Even with the 200,000 or more perdidos, he’s probably the most palatable of the early 20th’s fascists.

    • Frankiti July 22, 2016 at 4:51 pm #

      Let’s not confuse we can do better with deserving better. Spoilt children are in need of a special hand.

      • Q. Shtik July 23, 2016 at 12:05 pm #

        [Spoilt] children are in need of a special hand.


        There is nothing wrong with the way Frankiti has used the word spoilt yet it strikes my ear in an odd way in the same way ‘whilst’ does. I would guess that Frankiti was not born and raised within the US of A.


    • Janos Skorenzy July 23, 2016 at 4:04 am #

      Here is one of my favorite pieces. I was crestfallen to learn it wasn’t actually a Templar chant but produced much later in the heyday of Church music, around the time of Palestrina if memory serves.


  135. Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2016 at 3:18 pm #

    The King is returning over the water.


    If Earth calls, and Heaven answers, the Hour can be now.

  136. Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2016 at 3:41 pm #


    It’s not nice.

  137. stelmosfire July 22, 2016 at 3:47 pm #

    When I see a ROBOT that can properly prune a grapevine or sucker a tomato plant favorably than I will believe that humans are toast. It’s 97 F in the shade here today with a drying west wind and the plants are screaming for water. As a product of the Alps I can’t handle it. Robots don’t mind the heat. Than again they don’t have the ability to reason.

    • stelmosfire July 22, 2016 at 3:55 pm #

      I was at a wake yesterday for my youngest aunt. 19 kids in my Dad’s family. I was at a wake today and talked to a guy whose Dad had 24 kids in his family. All French Canadians, mine and his. Talk about environmental overshoot. I have 75 first cousins and I haven’t a clue as to second cousins and their grandchildren.

      • BackRowHeckler July 22, 2016 at 4:16 pm #

        That’s from the days when Whitey had big families, and before we were convinced that having a lot of kids was ‘destroying the planet’. So we had 1 or 2, at the same time Jose was swimming across the Rio Grande with his 20 little ones, and in the black ghettos across America every out of wedlock baby meant a bigger welfare check for the unwed mother.


        • malthuss July 22, 2016 at 4:25 pm #

          Janos has pointed out who wrote the ‘Pop Time Bomb’ and what his motive is.

          Did you read the piece at OO on ‘White Boy Privilege’?

          Ripped him a new one, and Royce replied so they ripped him a 3rd one.

          • elysianfield July 24, 2016 at 11:25 am #

            “Ripped him a new one, and Royce replied so they ripped him a 3rd one.”


            Anal fistulas abound!

        • Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2016 at 6:54 pm #

          And the answer isn’t to try and go back. We shouldn’t try and compete with them. We’ll lose because they’re having kids on our dime and plus their whole culture is geared for this.

          We defeat them with small families, intact borders, and big guns.

      • malthuss July 22, 2016 at 4:26 pm #

        Blacks are now a billion + in numbers.

        If they are so smart, why is Africa a wreck?

        • FincaInTheMountains July 22, 2016 at 4:29 pm #


        • stelmosfire July 22, 2016 at 5:13 pm #

          Now now, Malthuss, you do have to admit they are good with machetes and AK’s check 02.59


          • stelmosfire July 22, 2016 at 5:31 pm #

            I am such a cynical bast22rd! This could be you also. BRH sees it in CT. I’ve seen it on the streets of W. MA. A man stabbed 21 times! It’s like one sucking chest wound was not enough. Call a pumper to hose the blood into the storm drains before the dogs and skunks get to it.Blood in the streets, OD’s everyday.


          • malthuss July 22, 2016 at 8:33 pm #

            I did not click.
            Try ‘Cannibal Warlords of Liberia.’

  138. Janos Skorenzy July 22, 2016 at 4:08 pm #

    An outstretched arm caught my own as I fell fainting into the abyss. It was the hand of Lasalle! The French have entered Toledo. The Inquisition is in the hands of its enemies.

  139. BackRowHeckler July 22, 2016 at 4:11 pm #

    A massacre in Munich, for Chrissake how much cultural enrichment can these Europeans take? Where’s Burkha Merkel, at the Berlin Mosque, facing east? Well, she’s eliminated a few more native Germans … make more space for migrants from the Congo. Anyway, who cares about a few German shoppers from Munich when you’re saving the 3rd world by bringing the whole stinking murderous lot of them into your borders?
    Burkha Merkel was Time Magazine’s Person of the Year; that’s all that should concern you.


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    • JimInFlorida July 22, 2016 at 6:37 pm #

      It won’t stop until Merkel, or her private property, is harmed by these animals.

      Too bad White Germans are so castrated that they can’t even think of bombing the ruling elites themselves.

      The ONLY HOPE is for the German Armed Forces to go rogue, stage a coup d’etat in the name of the German People, and give Angela Merkel the same treatment that Nicolai Ceauscescu got. Merkel’s crimes are FAR WORSE than Ceauscescu’s because he would NEVER have allowed the pollution of Romania to go down like this!

      The rest of the pasty-faced quislings and limp-wristed race traitors will be dealt with accordingly. The “I was only following orders” defense will not be accepted.

      Then let the cleaning of the Augean Stables begin!

      • pequiste July 22, 2016 at 9:27 pm #

        Germans have an option with the AfD partei prior to a miltary coup.

        It needs to be continent wide – acquisition of power by nationalist parties in countries across Europe.

        Viktor Orban in Hungary tells it like it is and shows how it is done.

        Dismantle E.U. and help motivate the Yzlamik and African invaders to leave.

        Otherwise there will be a bloody civil war once again in Europa.

  140. FincaInTheMountains July 22, 2016 at 4:11 pm #

    Trump yesterday became the nominee of the Republican Party to the cries of the huge crowd in Cleveland “Lock her up!” He made an emphasis in his speech on the promise to bring America “Security, prosperity and peace!”

    And the first thing I read in the news after this speech of Trump is a message that Russia bombed American military base in Syria. Not immediately, but I realized that this is the answer of the Party of War to Trump’s promise to give peace to America.


    Please note the day of publication – 22 July (today) and the day of the alleged bombing – June 16.

    • JimInFlorida July 22, 2016 at 4:36 pm #

      Hardly a legitimate U.S. base. It was a secret base harboring CIA-backed ISIL fanatics and MI6 operatives. Operating as a terrorist base, it deserved to be bombed.

      Putin is finally playing by Washington’s own rules but, he needs to be mindful of the subtleties of those rules. Playing by U.S. rules is one thing but, Putin needs to carefully work his game to where Russia is setting the rules over there.

      • FincaInTheMountains July 22, 2016 at 6:04 pm #

        Jim, what are you talking about? US do not have military base in Syria, if you read the article carefully, you’ll find out that secret military base in Syria used by elite American and British forces last month – the key word is “used” (at some time in the past) – I could guarantee that no US or British servicemen were killed it that raid.

        But most people just read the [bleeping] headlines…

        • JimInFlorida July 22, 2016 at 6:21 pm #

          I DID say it WAS a secret base and I did read it.

          If the base WAS used by U.S. and British forces only last month, then there IS a high probability that it is still in use by our proxies. The probability was obviously high enough to motivate Russia to bomb it.

  141. wpa_ccc July 22, 2016 at 7:14 pm #

    Update: possible second shooter in Munich shopping mall rampage. How long before ISIS takes credit? –Volodya

    Shooter is of a bulky build, white, wearing jeans, has southern German accent, speaks against Turks, shoots children on the 5th anniversary of Anders Breivik’s massacre of 77 children in Norway, a shooter who is still celebrated by nationalist anti-immigrant neo-nazis.

    A neo-nazi wilding in a McDonalds and you think ISIS is going to take credit for yet more right-wing white violence in Europe?

    • pequiste July 22, 2016 at 9:20 pm #

      Iranian male. Muzzie.

      Yzlamik terrorist him.

      Imbecile you.

      • Q. Shtik July 22, 2016 at 10:58 pm #

        Peq, why are you and wpa making this so difficult. Is one of the perps four names Muhammad or isn’t it? End of story.

        • wpa_ccc July 23, 2016 at 2:36 am #

          James Alexander Muhammad Smith. Muslim?

          • Q. Shtik July 23, 2016 at 4:01 pm #

            James Alexander Muhammad Smith. Muslim? – wpa


            “Local media identified the lone gunman as 18-year-old Ali David Sonboly, a German citizen of Iranian descent who later committed suicide.” – Wikipedia

  142. Pucker July 22, 2016 at 11:03 pm #

    “Trump! Trump! Trump!”

    Snohomish County is citing a growing number of opioid overdose deaths — hundreds of them — as it seeks a sales-tax increase that would, in large part, help it hire more sheriff’s deputies.”

    “A reformation means that masses of our people have reached the point of disillusionment with past ways and values. They don’t know what will work but they do know that the prevailing system is self-defeating, frustrating, and hopeless. They won’t act for change but won’t strongly oppose those who do. The time is then ripe for revolution.”

    “Rules for Radicals”, Saul Alinsky (1971)

    • JimInFlorida July 23, 2016 at 10:56 am #

      Saul Alinsky. A pure Jew; his words and actions proved it.

  143. Pucker July 22, 2016 at 11:16 pm #

    Even Michael Moore now implicitly supports Trump in recognizing that supporting the Goldman Sachs candidate and prison privatization candidate, Hillary, is hopeless. Michael Moore used the word “phoney” in reference to Hillary.

  144. Q. Shtik July 23, 2016 at 12:07 am #

    Seriously, someone needs to explain this to me. Let’s say you pay a dollar in taxes, – Elrond


    First, for clarification, the vast majority of the ‘students’ attending New Brunswick, NJ H.S. are Latino (mostly Mexican). The second largest ethnic group is Blacks.

    White people who would qualify to send their kids to NB H.S. because they live within certain borders don’t do so for essentially two reasons: 1) the school has a terrible academic ranking and 2) trying to mix their white kids with what is basically a hostile ‘other’ would be unnatural and cruel.

    So what do these White parents do instead? They pay double for the education of their kids. First they pay for the building, maintenance and operation of the expensive new H.S. via taxation and then they pay to send their kids to private schools or to other nearby public schools via some tuition arrangement.

    BTW, something like 90% of the NB H.S. ‘students’ are provided either one or two meals a day at zero cost or at a subsidized cost. All of the White students who go to school elsewhere do NOT receive any subsidized meals since by definition if their parents are well enough off to send them to other schools they could not qualify on a financial need basis.

    This is the unspoken trade-off Whites have made in order to staff the restaurants (busboys), hospitals (orderlies), landscapers and roofers (hot and dirty grunt work) with the cheap labor they require and to have someone else do the menial tasks that they are unwilling to perform themselves.

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  145. Pucker July 23, 2016 at 12:31 am #

    What Hillary’s mentor, Saul Alinsky, didn’t foresee that his prescription to radicals to worm their way into the System and to work for change from within the System would eventually result in their corruption as it is a prescription for “Compartmentalized Thinking”: the self-serving delusion that one can be both a corporate executive and a revolutionary radical at the same time. Eventually, the “radical” uses left wing causes to feather his/ her own nest and the nest of Goldman Sachs while shouting “White Privilege” and “Black Lives Matter”.

  146. Pucker July 23, 2016 at 12:56 am #

    Why is it that Westerners always feel a need to unite Europe and attack Russia every 100 years? Napoleon; Hitler using overt military force; the Americans using economic and covert force.


  147. FincaInTheMountains July 23, 2016 at 1:15 am #

    Antagonism is growing between Turkish and US military inside the joint US-Turkish Incirlik Air Base: angry Turks cut off electricity to our American friends, and blocked them off, landing and takeoffs, preventing Americans taking off the airbase with tactical nuclear weapons that are stored there.

    Turks strenuously patrolling the skies and say that all unidentified aircraft will be shot down. Whom do they hint? Well, clearly not the Kremlin.

    USAF Special Forces took perimeter defense of their part of the base and announced that they should take all the territory of the base and prepare for a long siege. And they have ulterior motive: US Marines will fight to the last, but not give up the American nuclear bombs stored at the base.

    And Erdogan need them badly, after he learned the hard way the market value of NATO guarantees and very disappointed in them and very determined to make Turkey a great nuclear power, but without all these costly Manhattan projects, nuclear physics and other fuss.

    Squeeze nuclear weapons right from the suckers.

    • stelmosfire July 23, 2016 at 10:06 am #

      Well I figure the US Jarheads will put up a pretty good fight, except maybe the ones in the latrine trimming their C##t##irs!

      • elysianfield July 23, 2016 at 11:03 am #

        “except maybe the ones in the latrine trimming their C##t##irs!”

        The Marines have had, for many decades, women in the Corps …they refer to them as “BAMS”…broad-assed Marines.

    • JimInFlorida July 23, 2016 at 10:50 am #

      Even if Erdogan manages to seize them by force, the warheads won’t work for him because of the safeguards. He WILL be forced into a difficult process of removing the warhead material and reinventing the nuclear wheel from scratch.

      Now enter the IRANIANS who are much further along the way in that research! I can see Erdogan doing an Operation Paper Clip to recruit Iranian nuclear scientists to work in Turkey and build new nuclear weapons from the disassembled nuclear warheads.

      If Erdogan is really slick, he’ll remove the warheads, put mockups in their place, and place the missiles and other parts out where a U.S. strike team can recapture the castrated weapons. By the time the missiles are returned to the U.S. and the ruse discovered, Turkey and Iran will already have absconded the warheads to a secret place.

      • elysianfield July 23, 2016 at 11:15 am #

        This is purely speculative on my part, but I feel that the US is able to track fissile material by means of which the public is not aware…satellites, perhaps.

        It only seems logical that with the proliferation of nuclear weapons, the issues of security and corruption in the (then) failed state of Russia, Pakistan, India and North Korea, that, hostile parties would have both obtained and used WMD’s by now, were it not for the supposition that a tracking method is in place and effective.

        • elysianfield July 23, 2016 at 11:24 am #


          “were it not for the supposition that a tracking method is in place and effective.” Should read;

          “were it not for a tracking method being in place and effective.”

      • FincaInTheMountains July 23, 2016 at 11:28 am #

        Oh, shiiiite, my bad, Jim. How could I have forgotten about impenetrable 8-inch floppy disks that guard US nuclear secrets!

        • JimInFlorida July 23, 2016 at 12:31 pm #

          Surely, Finca, you’ve heard of Security By Obsolescence???

          Who but the U.S. Armed Forces still has any hardware that can read and use ancient storage media? Who can still understand the ancient coding languages or IBM mainframe programming? Hand carrying 8″ floppy disks and storing them in strong-boxes is infinitely more secure than whatever gets broadcast over satellite or WiFi.

          Hell, if we still have computers that use punch cards and paper tape programs, we’re golden!!! All those indecipherable holes on paper that only the most hard-core computer geek on LSD can work with.

      • Q. Shtik July 23, 2016 at 12:20 pm #

        If Erdogan is really slick, he’ll remove the warheads, put mockups in their place, and place the missiles and other parts out where a U.S. strike team can recapture the castrated weapons. By the time the missiles are returned to the U.S. and the ruse discovered, Turkey and Iran will already have absconded the warheads to a secret place. – JimInFL


        This is a scenario concocted by an otherwise out-of-work Hollywood screenwriter.

  148. FincaInTheMountains July 23, 2016 at 2:21 am #

    The head of the German Constitution Protection Service Hans-Georg Maassen did not expect that together with the refugees Germany could be infiltrated by the terrorists.


    He admitted that before the attack in Munich, not after. It only remained to wait for the result of his criminal ignorance. Now they are too obvious.

    The whole world knew about it exactly, but the main German fighter against terror, apparently, did not even tried to get undercover information among refugees. Not because he is such inexperienced or unsuspecting. I think he just did not have an opportunity – to suspect anyone in preparation of the crime before the fact of a crime in Europe is now considered undemocratic.

    For all men are brothers. Liberalism is the bright future of all mankind and to Germany came from the Middle East only those who share these touching beliefs.

  149. wpa_ccc July 23, 2016 at 2:48 am #

    Trump’s plan to stab our NATO allies in back would be disastrous by Leonid Bershidsky

    “Trump may have forgotten that the United States is the only country for which [NATO’s] Article 5 has ever been invoked — after 9/11, when America’s allies stood with it against the terrorist menace. But no matter how much of a political novice Trump is, he must understand that the United States cannot just isolate itself: It’s been going in the opposite direction for too long and has accumulated obligations along the way.

    Article 5 — the whole reason for the military alliance’s existence — is worded rather carefully: Countries are obliged to take “such action as it deems necessary” to help any ally who has been attacked, but military action is not explicitly required. If previous U.S. governments saw this as a binding commitment to use military force and led others to see it that way, too — that’s why the Baltics joined NATO in the first place —

    Trump is saying he’s willing to reinterpret Article 5 in his favor, to bend what everyone considers to be