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What if the Corona virus turns out to be a genuine pandemic with legs, not some punk-ass, flash-in-the-pan bug like SARS… and infects hundreds of millions around the world…? And what if it happens to go logarithmic in the USA, as in China now…? And what if takes a few months, or half a year, to do that…? And what if Americans will not get on airplanes when that happens…? Or gather together in large numbers…? Or if government imposes quarantines …? Will the parties hold their nominating conventions? Might the November election have to be postponed?

Just sayin’… since nobody else seems to be talking about it. A few months ago, nobody was thinking about a disease that would virtually lock-down China’s economy, either… and now here we are. Speaking of which, that lock-down of China’s economy is already generating serious damage to global GDP, after only a few weeks. But nothing shows our detachment from reality like the recent surge in financial market indexes while the Chinese economy was busy shutting down. In particular, one must wonder: What supports the global daisy-chain of debt obligations while all this is going on?

After all, companies doing business need a revenue stream to service their revolving debts. They have to make stuff, and move stuff, and get paid for it. What happens when there is no revenue stream? The workings of this hyper-complex financial system depend utterly on the velocity of these revenue streams. They can’t just… stop! Everybody who follows these things understands that China’s banking system is 1) a hot mess of confabulated public and private lending relationships, 2) completely opaque as regards the true workings of its operations, and 3) shot through with fraud, swindling, and Ponzis. Did China’s ruling party just put its banking system in an induced coma while Corona virus plays out? How can that possibly not affect the rest of global finance, which is plenty janky, too?

The USA gets everything from car parts to pharmaceuticals from China. How long will it take for the manufacturing lock-down to show up in American daily life? What if it continues for some months going forward? You can easily draw your own conclusions.

Here’s another interesting angle on that: Corona virus might give President Donald Trump an easy out from being the bag-holder for a stock market crash and banking train wreck. The signal weakness of Mr. Trump’s term-in-office was his taking ownership of a magical mystery stock market that climbs ever-higher day after day, defying all known rules of physics as applied to money. This longest “expansion” in US history (if that’s what it was, and I’m not so sure about it) seems to have hit a speed bump last September when something broke in the short-term “re-po” lending markets, at which time (and ever since), Jay Powell’s Federal Reserve began jamming hundreds of billions of dollars into them to smash down zooming interest rates and prevent a heart attack in the system. That creation of “liquidity” — money from thin air — appears to have stabilized the situation. But then, it is a peculiar feature of our times that a lot of things have an appearance that doesn’t sync with reality.

In short, if Corona virus and its side-effects do substantially knock down the stock markets, Mr. Trump gets off scot-free on the one thing that has been really propping him up. Not only can he blame a looming market calamity on this black swan pandemic, he can then turn around and play the Franklin Roosevelt role in attempting to rescue the nation from a depression. And then, if the election has to be postponed, we will see a for-sure discontinuity in US political history, consequences as yet unknown.

Meanwhile, schemes continue apace to overthrow Mr. Trump by-hook-or-by-crook before the election, with Sedition Release 4.0 just breaking in the Roger Stone sentencing affair and four prosecutors (three of them Mueller alumni, imagine that!) staging a phony-baloney resignation huff to stir up useful idiots like Rep. Eric Swalwell on the House Intel Committee for the next go at impeachment. Understand, this wicked business is just another ploy engineered by the same combined Deep State / Lawfare scoundrels that ran RussiaGate, MuellerGate, and UkraineGate, and the real purpose of it is to stave off efforts to prosecute a pretty broad network of those same former and current officials in the FBI, DOJ, CIA, State Department, Pentagon, Obama White House, and the Clinton Foundation for seditious conspiracy and, yes, possibly even treason. Personally, I believe that the Attorney General is honestly trying to smoke out the truth in this morass of nefarious intrigues, and that neither attempts to block him by the perps and their allies, nor a visitation of Corona virus across the land, will thwart him.

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421 Responses to “Impure Thoughts”

  1. shotho February 14, 2020 at 10:13 am #

    If the Republicans have something on Democratic officials, they had best get out there. Time’s running out, as the Democrats keep pumping out new stuff. Makes you wonder which side the Republicans are on in this never-ending saga.
    Never thought about it, but the virus might be the best thing Trump has going for him.

    • Nightowl February 14, 2020 at 10:27 am #

      No need. Durham and Barr seem quite busy with investigations. They know everything that happened, as Trump has announced in public numerous times.

      But the people must be informed slowy and the cases airtight, because two elements must be locked down: the mockingbird media must be neutralized and the key seditious conspirators jailed.

      • outsider February 15, 2020 at 10:55 am #

        I’m sure Mr. Kunstler’s fine essay was written before it was announced, but Andrew McCabe will not be charged. Tucker Carlson seems to think that none of the culprits will be.

    • draupnir February 14, 2020 at 10:35 am #

      I heard the Democrats have issued Barr an ultimatum–either resign or be impeached. I didn’t know they could impeach an appointed official who serves at the pleasure of the president. I don’t know why they’d bother unless he has become a clear and present danger to them.

      They are looking increasingly ridiculous and depraved; their escalating machinations making forays now into the realms of fantasy. Worse, they’ve abandoned any pretense of doing the work they were sent to do and spend their time investigating every word that comes out of Trump’s mouth (or any of his many ill-advised twitter comments). Their desperation is quite obvious. I am so glad I gave up my party affiliation.

      • Nightowl February 14, 2020 at 10:57 am #

        It appears they tried to set him up with the Stone case. That is why the resignations occured.

        Ex-interim AG Matt Whittaker was talking about this in an interview the other night.

        • hmuller February 14, 2020 at 12:30 pm #

          Yes indeed, When Adam Schiff warns of Trump giving Alaska back to Russia, then retiring to his Florida estate and letting Jared run the country – I’d call that depraved crazy talk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ina22lXxcZg

          Do these clowns expect to be taken seriously?

          • BackRowHeckler February 14, 2020 at 12:58 pm #

            Meanwhile, in the USA, we’re piddling around with windmills (energy source abandoned 175 years ago) and solar panels.

        • BackRowHeckler February 14, 2020 at 12:51 pm #

          Yeah remember when Trump expressed interest in buying Greenland? What an idiot! How stupid can you get? The whole world was laughing at him! What an embarrassment, the 25th amendment needs to be invoked to remove this fool from office.
          Then we learn China is moving on Greenland like it has moved on Africa, building an airbase and a naval seaport, dispatching geologists to search for oil, precious metals, natgas, rare earth metals and coal, part of the mad scramble for arctic resources, which also includes Russia, Canada, Norway (yes Norway) and Japan. Suddenly the President didn’t seem so stupid anymore. Lefties criticizing him seemed stupid.


          • Nightowl February 14, 2020 at 1:28 pm #

            Just imagine what the early-1800s NPC uproar must have been like when Jefferson announced the Louisiana Purchase.

          • SpeedyBB February 17, 2020 at 10:17 am #

            High School History Class taught us about the scorned “Seward’s Folly” and “President Andrew Johnson’s polar-bear garden”: the purchase of Alaska from the Russian Empire for seven million dollars. At roughly two cents an acre it turned out not to be such a bad deal after all.

  2. RaymondR February 14, 2020 at 10:15 am #

    Like most Anatidae, black swans travel in flocks. The Corona virus black swans is just the lead bird.

    • draupnir February 14, 2020 at 10:42 am #

      The spring floods affected the food production in the midwest. Then there’s the plague of locusts in Africa. Isn’t famine one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse?

      • Daddyotis February 14, 2020 at 3:59 pm #

        Grow and preserve your own food, and you don’t have to depend on the system (not as much, at least). My family is still consuming our vegetable haul from the past growing season.

        • MontanaMan February 15, 2020 at 8:55 am #

          HEAR HEAR!! So do we here on our Ranch in NW Montana. Ours is a family affair as we call it. Me, my 3 brothers and there wives and my wife’s brothers & sisters. We plant an 8 acre garden each year. And we all can what we grow. Even then we have soooooo much left over that we send the word out once we are done that anyone can come get what all is left.

  3. geo February 14, 2020 at 10:27 am #

    With the raging corona, all I can see is nationalized health care as far as my minds eye can see.

    • snagglepuss February 14, 2020 at 10:44 am #

      USA could not manage a national health care program. One only has to visit the many US states to observe how diverse the thinking and culture is in each one. While it might be one country in name, all these states are like little countries of their own. You need unity to manage a national program, and there is none. Securing your borders seems to me to be a bigger priority. Otherwise you are driving down a road on tires with slow leaks. Only a matter of time before you are stopped dead by flat tires.

      • Beryl of Oyl February 14, 2020 at 11:23 am #

        I keep hearing about people having major problems relating to their medical care, and this is after the Obamacare “reform”.
        All the Democrats who were for it have backed away from it and are now aping Bernie.
        Four months waiting for approval for an MRI, for someone with cancer?
        A new father cashing in an IRA and taking a penalty, because his infant had a few minor problems at birth requiring extra doctor visits?
        Then there are two people I know of who had hassles getting prescriptions renewed, for medicines they always take, to the point where they went weeks without drugs they weren’t supposed to stop taking.

        As far as securing the border goes, the conditions at our southern border are exactly the kind of conditions necessary for a major pandemic to occur.
        Health officials have been warning us that it isn’t a question of if, but when, a repeat of something like the Spanish Influenza outbreak of 1918.
        Yet when someone suggests we follow existing laws about admitting people to the country, laws which millions have already followed, you get screams from people like Nancy Pelosi, for whom that border is of utmost importance.

        • Ricechex February 14, 2020 at 8:12 pm #

          National Health Care means NO Health Care for All.

      • cbeard February 14, 2020 at 12:05 pm #

        Securing the border is the big thing. I believe that thing about “demographics being destiny” is 100% true. This recent situation in China is just another wake up call to bring the manufacturing base back to America. Nationalism all the way baby.

      • abbybwood February 14, 2020 at 9:38 pm #

        The U.S. already manages a nationalized health program that works very well for millions of Americans.

        All Sanders is suggesting is that Medicare be extended to all Americans.

        And there is nothing “free” about it. Everyones cost would be reduced because the for-profit health insurance industry and their high administrative costs would be eliminated. And Medicare already negotiates lower drug costs.

        • Iananna February 15, 2020 at 4:54 am #

          You are correct, putting the case simply & concisely.
          America spends more on health care than any other nation with less to show for it in terms of neo/peri/post natal death rates (mother & child) & disability care.
          It has worked for over half a century in Euroland, from Spain to Norway.

        • benr February 16, 2020 at 9:35 am #

          If you REALLY think this is true then please tell me what program does the us government oversee that is efficient and well managed?

          Everything government touches becomes bloated mismanaged and eventually a black hole for money.

    • WayfaringStranger February 14, 2020 at 6:57 pm #

      I don’t think so. Raging corona will quickly put to death all thoughts of a national healthcare system. If it’s truly raging, people will be left to die/recover at home, like min China and those who do stay home will be better off. if you have to die, do it at home surrounded by your own life, not in a make-shift sports stadium facility with a complete stranger doing their own death rattle on cots 2 feet away on either side of you and row upon row of more stranger’s death rattles after that.
      Keep in mind by the time it explodes here China will have been well into it for a long time. Most of our medical stuff comes from there.
      No one gets immunity from nCoV, you can get it again and again.
      So does anyone think China will share their remaining medical supplies with US? Hell no. We may start this whole thing already at a medicinal deficit.
      Plus, if you know anyone on the stupid Obamacare shit, it’s a friggin joke as it is.

      • abbybwood February 14, 2020 at 9:43 pm #

        So, once a person acquires the Coronavirus they can get it again and again eh?

        This is the ONE virus on Earth where the human body does NOT create immunity??

        If what you are saying is true, then this will be the end of civilization as we know it because once one catches this virus he/she would never recover as the virus would just start the cycle all over.

        I need a drink.

        • GreenAlba February 15, 2020 at 2:42 pm #


          Antibodies to Covid19 do develop – but it appears they don’t last that long. However, scientists are using plasma from recovered victims to develop a vaccine, so the antibodies, although short lived in recovered victims, will be of some use eventually.

          Also, from what they know so far, it doesn’t seem to mutate the way ‘flu virus does, so hopefully the vaccine will remain effective.

          But at this stage there’s still a lot of hoping to be done and a drink doesn’t do any harm in the circumstances. Although I haven’t succumbed to that yet, even with a daughter in Singapore. 🙂

  4. robert magill February 14, 2020 at 10:30 am #


    Our Nation’s legacy

    writ deep on cold stone, sadly.


    • draupnir February 14, 2020 at 11:19 am #


      A virus dining in Wuhan,
      Spoiled that nation’s five-year plan.
      With Corona’s escape,
      The world is agape.
      As we watch the shit hit the fan.

      • elysianfield February 14, 2020 at 1:24 pm #

        The Kung-Flu begat by Chinese,
        Knocked the Economy to it’s knees,
        It will loosen your bung,
        It will fuck up your lung,
        And bankrupt the country with ease.

    • elysianfield February 14, 2020 at 1:11 pm #

      Get Rich…Die Tryin’
      Such Is The Mantra Today,
      Can’t buy Love, or Health….

  5. Paul Ford O'Neil February 14, 2020 at 10:32 am #

    Hello James,

    YES, ‘corrona-virus’ may or may nor illumine the path to a ‘new-age’ for Amer-I-cans and US-I-cants.

    BUT, I don’t share your confidence in Mr. Barr, who apparently defended an FBI agent named “Lon Hoguchi”, made infamous for shooting a woman [Vicki Weaver] in the face as she stood with her babe in arms in the forests of Northern Idaho +30 years ago.

    Mr. ‘Hoguchi’ [sp?] of course was found guilty of nothing more than bad judgement and presumably is retired with full benefits for his valorious service to country [read ‘Garchs’].

    I have much greater faith in ‘corrona-virus’ taking down the ‘demonic-marxist-feminist gulag’ [read ‘swamp’] than the thin-skinned questionalbly ‘catholic, moral or competent’ bill-barr.

    Carry-on til you are carrion,

    • K-Dog February 14, 2020 at 11:02 am #

      Barr told the New York Times in 1993 that he was not directly involved in the Ruby Ridge operation. Two years later, the Washington Post revealed that “top officials of the Bush Justice Department had at least 20 [phone] contacts concerning Ruby Ridge in the 24 hours before Vicki Weaver was shot,” including two calls involving Barr.

      • Paul Ford O'Neil February 14, 2020 at 12:15 pm #

        Thanx Dawg for clarifying my dates and memory.

        I lived in the “Inland Empire” in the 1970s-80s and often drove by the mountain where Randy Weaver & family homesteaded, to hike/ski on other great mountains – so their tragedy was not just a sterile headline.

        Yet, my experience does not permit me to anticipate a ‘cry-baby doomer generation’ A-Team member ‘doing’ – much less ‘thinking’ the right thing.

        And ‘bill-barr’, being the apex of said creature, my expectations are somewhat less than zero.


        1. (spoiled meat)
        a. carrion
        2. (scum)
        a. riffraff

        on the other hand, will do an infinitely more thorough job of flushing the ‘swamp’, commencing with the global pseudo-economy.

        Carry-on til you are carrion,

    • Janos Skorenzy February 14, 2020 at 1:05 pm #

      Yes, he’s Deep Swamp, Zionist faction. Maybe his conversion to Catholicism was genuine, but who even knows what that means to people. If he’s like Kavanaugh, nothing is going to come of it. He a lifelong Catholic, Deep Swamp, Zionist faction.

  6. CancelMyCard February 14, 2020 at 10:44 am #

    “The signal weakness of Mr. Trump’s term-in-office was his taking ownership of a magical mystery stock market that climbs ever-higher day after day, defying all known rules of physics as applied to money. ”

    And after the market swan dives, watch him blame literally everyone and anyone (but himself) for the fiasco. Finger-pointing on steroids.

    Just like the oligarchs like to privatize the gains, and socialize the losses — Trump wants to take the credit for the market’s ascension, but will take no responsibility for the devolution.

    His true colors will shine through.

    • K-Dog February 14, 2020 at 10:55 am #

      When money is printed and given to banks to prop up things that are …….janky……. no laws of physics are being broken. Making the rich richer will kick the can down the road until it can’t do it any more. Then the consequences of quantitative easing will destroy the country.

      • ellipsis February 14, 2020 at 12:09 pm #

        This is all playing out quite predictably so far. Flush out all the Monopoly game money into the public domain, allow an elite few to Hoover it up, then declare the game over. What will follow for the rest of us afterward is the only remaining mystery, although the most obvious solutions seem limited to elimination or servitude. Impoverishment goes without saying.

  7. volodya February 14, 2020 at 10:48 am #

    Events, dear boy, events. Well, this c-virus sure qualifies. 

    Does Barr have the stones to do it, that’s the question. Assuming he’s making a good-faith effort and not just going through the motions, he’s got the Deep State lined up against him, which could have dire consequences for him personally because, as sure as he was born, there will be retribution. 

    It leaves you in stitches, the Democrats talking all this big talk about the threat posed by Trump and his administration to democracy, to the Constitution, to the truth, to all things good and pure, the irony of course in this irony infused cosmos being that the Democrats are the threat. 

    JHK is right, what we’ve seen is sedition, but of the most hilariously incompetent sort, the might of American institutions bearing down on a duly elected official, going at it hammer-and-tongs,but regardless, not laying a glove on the rock-star himself, only his roadies for infractions not remotely connected to the originally alleged misdeeds. 

    Imagine, a lifetime spent in mobbed-up businesses like real estate and casinos and the Mueller crew couldn’t find a thing. Astounding. How can that be? Is Trump that smart? Is he that clean? Was the Mueller gang that useless? 

    No matter, because what all this represents is an unwillingness to abide by election results. Too bad for American democracy, this unwillingness, and also an unwillingness to ascribe legitimate interests to wide areas of the populace. 

    It’s not just what they’re doing to Trump, it’s what they’re doing to Bernie. This Iowa thing reeks of dirty deeds, ie another effort to hobble Bernie. If you’re looking for corruption, look to the Democrats. They are rotten with it. 

    • Beryl of Oyl February 14, 2020 at 11:33 am #

      For reasons known only to himself, Bernie is claiming not to believe that anything untoward went on in Iowa.
      I don’t know what his deal is. The first time around, Donald Trump was laying it out for him, in case he hadn’t gotten the picture. It was his supporters, though, who tried to sue for the fraudulent behavior of the DNC.
      Bernie was evidently fine with it, and even told his supporters to vote for Hillary.

      The fact that Bernie tried to pass off Hillary’s emails as nothing important shows me that he was either incredibly naive and clueless, or he considers that kind of behavior, running a secret, off the books from the basement of a private home, to be acceptable.
      Either way, he is unfit for public office. Those who condone that sort of lawlessness are as dirty as those who practice it.

      • ellipsis February 14, 2020 at 12:04 pm #

        He’s either scrupulous to a fault or simply senile. At the very least, his loyalties are severely misguided. Agreed about his fitness. Not sure he has the cojones for the job. Not to worry though. The Dems will flush him soon enough.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 14, 2020 at 1:44 pm #

          One remember him standing like a shamed little boy after two big Black ladies took his mic (his penis or virility) away from him.

          Trump said he would have fought them. What a glorious sight that would have been.

          • hmuller February 14, 2020 at 2:51 pm #

            Apparently, that happened AUG 8, 2015 in downtown Seattle (a town notorious for its brutal treatment of minorities). NOT!

            Black Lives Matter people took Bernie’s microphone; he was not allowed to speak. Maybe he had terrifying flashbacks to being bullied on his way to Hebrew school by persons of dark pigmentation. Maybe they knocked off his yarmulke and called him names.

            In Texas they would call Bernie ‘all hat and no cattle’.

      • abbybwood February 14, 2020 at 10:00 pm #

        I will be voting for Gabbard in the California primary then I will wait for Bernie to keep getting screwed by the DNC state by state. Seems they have their fingers on the scale for Mayor Cheat the military intel guy (and Rhodes Scholar!!!!).

        If Sanders goes along to get along with the corrupt DNC I think his supporters will be done with him and will either stay home in November or vote for Trump.

        I see where he and AOC are already backpedaling on their support for Medicare for All and it now appears they support The Public Option.

        I am already burned out on all the lies and BS. Getting close to tuning it all out and waiting for the Coronavirus to kill me.

        • MontanaMan February 15, 2020 at 9:03 am #

          Your actually waiting on the virus to kill you!!!!! Jeez. Louise. Talk about giving up….

        • UN OUT OF USA February 15, 2020 at 3:32 pm #

          Tulsi Gabbard is a member of the globalist CFR (see her website). No thanks. I prefer a pro-America First candidate over another globalist who will continue shipping our jobs and whats left of our manufacturing base overseas.

    • sprawlcapital February 14, 2020 at 11:48 am #

      This Iowa thing reeks of dirty deeds, ie another effort to hobble Bernie . . .
      I shouldn’t brag, but what the heck. I was denouncing the Iowa Caucuses as corrupt and dysfunctional at least six months ago. That was based on my caucus participation in 2016, when it appeared to my wife and I that Sanders won in our precinct, but then it was announced that Hillary got more delegates. And the raw vote totals were never disclosed.

      If we’re still having elections in 2024, Iowa needs to get rid of the caucuses and hold a normal primary election, like New Hampshire does.

      • Beryl of Oyl February 14, 2020 at 11:51 am #

        Go ahead and brag. We need all the alert citizens we can get.

      • volodya February 14, 2020 at 12:16 pm #

        Good for you for seeing it and talking about it.

        It’s amazing how people don’t see what’s right under their noses. Or refuse to see.

        The best disinfectant is always sunlight.

      • BackRowHeckler February 14, 2020 at 1:01 pm #


        What is the purpose of the ‘Caucus’ in Iowa? Why not just a straight up vote like in the rest of the states?

      • abbybwood February 14, 2020 at 11:42 pm #

        Did you happen to catch any of the nonsense “coin tosses”?

        Some suited up DNC jackass flips a coin up and, surrounded by gullible old ladies, he catches the coin, flips it around in his hand a few times then says, “Butti-giggity-giggity!”

        Total crock.

        Try that slick maneuver at an NFL game sometime.


  8. JMR February 14, 2020 at 10:57 am #

    “Here’s another interesting angle on that: Corona virus might give President Donald Trump an easy out from being the bag-holder for a stock market crash and banking train wreck.”

    Except that half the country will not only blame him for a crashing economy but also for the corona virus itself.

    • Walter B February 14, 2020 at 11:07 am #

      You make a good point there.

    • Beryl of Oyl February 14, 2020 at 11:35 am #

      Some celebrity types have already made some claims in that direction.
      As if it is the president, and not a bunch of people and policies in place long before he took office, who takes the lead in these matters.

  9. Walter B February 14, 2020 at 11:06 am #

    “Here’s another interesting angle on that: Corona virus might give President Donald Trump an easy out from being the bag-holder for a stock market crash and banking train wreck”


  10. Walter B February 14, 2020 at 11:11 am #

    “Personally, I believe that the Attorney General is honestly trying to smoke out the truth in this morass of nefarious intrigues, and that neither attempts to block him by the perps and their allies, or a visitation of Corona virus across the land, will thwart him”

    Nancy Pelosi wasted no time jumping on his case, didn’t she with her comment that he was “deeply damaging the rule of law”. Seriously bitch, get a grip. That was what you have been doing for over three years now!

  11. akmofo February 14, 2020 at 11:16 am #

    The Chinese economy survives on leveraged US dollars they get via the Hong Kong exchange and China corporate fraud listed on other foreign exchanges. And now via direct FED injections.

    With banks unwilling to hold Chinese dodgy collateral, the FED steps in, fronting US dollars for the Chinese banks. The Chinese take the FED dollars to the FX swap market, get a leveraged return of 500 vs the 175 basis points they borrow, pay back the FED, pocket the spread, buy China and US debt, and of-course big cap stocks as well.

    • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 11:24 am #

      This is just as true for US and European banks. They all feed on US dollars.

    • abbybwood February 14, 2020 at 11:48 pm #

      Maybe the Coronavirus is Nature’s Way of flipping the economic Monopoly board for us?!

      (Unless it was made in the Military Biolab in Wuhan or in Fort Dettrick, MD??)

      Population control anyone? Fire up those crematoriums Jack!

      • MontanaMan February 15, 2020 at 9:05 am #

        So very true.

  12. Tate February 14, 2020 at 11:23 am #

    President Trump had a lot to do with the stock market rise. It’s all about confidence & he’s supreme in the game of instilling confidence, justified or not. If the stock market tanks, he will have nothing to do with its decline except for driving it up in the first place. Let’s admit that the coronavirus is a force majeure beyond his control. Only low-IQ fools like Maxine Waters will try to pin the blame on him.

    • CancelMyCard February 14, 2020 at 11:31 am #

      “If the stock market tanks, he will have nothing to do with its decline except for driving it up in the first place.”

      Yes, it’s as if there was a house on fire, and one guy is flinging water on the blaze, and another guy is flinging gasoline. Who are you going to blame . . .
      the guy trying to moderate the conflagration, or the guy who is actively ramping it up?

      • Daddyotis February 14, 2020 at 4:11 pm #

        That analogy makes absolutely no sense at all.

        TDS indeed.

      • Tate February 14, 2020 at 6:45 pm #

        I’ve always thought it was foolish for Trump to “take ownership” of the stock market boom. But then another way to look at it is he’s risking little by doing so & he has a lot to gain. If the market goes south, he can shift the blame away from himself very easily — there’s always an excuse lying around — & it affects relatively few people.

        But if the economy itself goes south, with a consequent loss of jobs, that’s another story altogether.

        • Majella February 14, 2020 at 9:30 pm #

          The rising stock market was just an ‘object’ too ‘shiny’ for Himself to resist collecting with his other baubles. It’s a time bomb.

          • abbybwood February 14, 2020 at 11:56 pm #

            By capitalizing “Himself” are you suggesting Trump is God?

            With all the locusts currently decimating crops in Africa and the Coronavirus raising havoc, maybe Trump IS God?!

            The totally deranged “Evangelicals” are claiming “The End Times” are upon us!

            I am starting to seriously wonder if my life is just some big, bad Biblical nightmare!

          • Majella February 15, 2020 at 3:13 pm #


            Oh, no, most certainly not.

            I made a decision to not use the GGG’s actual name in writing hereabouts.

            “Himself” is an Irish affectation and it’s capitalised only to distinguish it as referring to FFvCS.

        • UN OUT OF USA February 15, 2020 at 3:37 pm #

          Agreed. I believe that’s why Trump is always kicking the Fed. He is waking people up to the fact that they have priorities other than what is best for America. If they do what he says (e.g. lower rates), he will take credit for “telling them so months ago!”. If they go against him (e.g. raise rates and the economy falters), he will blame them. Its a brilliant position to be in.

          • Tate February 15, 2020 at 4:54 pm #

            Yes, you’re right about the Fed. But if Covid-19 plays havoc with the economy, it will be interesting how Trump responds. If mini-Mike is the Democrat nominee under those conditions, he will give Trump a real run for his money.

            And I think it’s better than even odds that Covid-19 is going to play havoc with the economy. Trump can try unprecedented fiscal measures to mitigate the damage (say a one-time $10K handout to every person). I’m convinced Trump would try something like that, even if his Republican majority in the Senate wouldn’t go along (maybe because they wouldn’t go along.) If presented with that situation, his only vulnerability would be getting there first before the Dem candidate proposed something similar.

  13. Billy Hill February 14, 2020 at 11:25 am #

    Corona virus lockdown will hasten Smart-Phone voting. It’s going to happen anyway. Who knows? Might even be more accurate and honest than the voting machines. Regardless, the eternal verities will still apply: “Vote Early, and Often!”

    • Beryl of Oyl February 14, 2020 at 11:38 am #

      Everybody vote by mail-in, and the ballots could be conveniently lost or found, depending on the desired outcome.

    • Epicur February 14, 2020 at 12:23 pm #

      Might as well do it on a phone. It does not matter. If it mattered they wouldn’t let us do it.

      • Beryl of Oyl February 14, 2020 at 12:47 pm #

        “If it mattered, they wouldn’t let us do it.” That’s deep.

    • abbybwood February 15, 2020 at 12:03 am #

      Let’s just let A.I. choose our leaders!

      A.I. is already saying Mayor Cheat/the Intel guy will become President.

      Why fight the power?

  14. sstumpff February 14, 2020 at 11:36 am #

    I think I like the analogy of the global economy as a geriatric heart patient. The miracles of modern medicine can sure extend life, but eventually we all must die.

    • Beryl of Oyl February 14, 2020 at 11:47 am #

      Tell that to Bernie.
      Also, if the Democrats give in and allow Bernie to win the nomination, watch for two things- one, they will start to tell us they were all really Socialists, and Socialism isn’t that bad; and two, look closely at who he accepts as his running mate.
      I think if the rigors of the campaign don’t get him, an impeachment awaits him down the road, the first time he gets ideas of his own.
      He didn’t object when they did it to Trump, so he must realize this.

      • hmuller February 14, 2020 at 3:16 pm #

        Impeachments are drawn out, divisive, and rarely work. A heart attack looks perfectly natural, works quickly. And Bernie already has a “condition”. No one will question the short-lived nature of the Sanders Presidency.

      • abbybwood February 15, 2020 at 12:07 am #

        If Bernie gets the nomination and chooses some “moderate” who opposes everything Bernie stands for (a DNC edict), Trump will be re-elected in a landslide.

        • UN OUT OF USA February 15, 2020 at 3:39 pm #

          Trump will be re-elected in a landslide anyway.

  15. Beryl of Oyl February 14, 2020 at 11:40 am #

    Does anyone know anything about the alleged involvement of Bill Gates with corona vaccine research?
    I see second hand stories about this. It sounds fishy, but a lot of what sounds fishy today turns out to be true.

    • Billy Hill February 14, 2020 at 12:35 pm #

      My conclusion is that the Gates allegation is Alex Jones hyperbole. Frankly, more plausible is the Wuhan level4 bio-lab weaponizing gene-spliced virus as suggested by an Indian source. The MSM has declared this officially off limits despite the inconvenient coincidence of the lab’s location. The fact-checkers have gone nuts keeping us safe from fake news, but unfortunately with each passing day their mission becomes more difficult. We now have the CDC director stating It’s Coming to the USA.

      There was a dust up last July between the Canadian Level-4 lab in Winnipeg and Chinese nationals there. I guess just another inconvenient data point.

      • draupnir February 14, 2020 at 3:22 pm #

        There have apparently been four releases of the SARS virus and one of smallpox out of their level 4 facility in recent years. They either have a containment issue, a procedural issue, or some sort of staffing issue. The Wuhan facility is getting a new leader. The woman is a PLA bioweapons expert, and she has been directed to tighten things up, including putting a stop to theft, which is an alarming thought, considering what their product is. Who knows to whom renegade staff may have sold killer viruses and to what purpose. Today, in the abstract of a paper out of the prestigious South China University of Technology it was stated:

        “In summary, somebody was entangled with the evolution of 2019-nCoV coronavirus. In addition to origins of natural recombination and intermediate host, the killer coronavirus probably originated from a laboratory in Wuhan.”

        This is a state-controlled university.

        Meanwhile, in other news, there are plumes of So2 hanging over Wuhan and another major city to the west, that can be seen from space, and are indicative of burning organic material.

        • draupnir February 14, 2020 at 3:25 pm #

          I think they’ve really screwed the pooch this time.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 14, 2020 at 4:18 pm #

          Read my article below. Each killer virus is being touted as the cure for other killer viruses. Why not just release all of them and see what happens? Everyone should be alright cuz they will cancel each other out, right?

          These people care about us!

        • abbybwood February 15, 2020 at 12:21 am #

          Are you saying that the Coronavirus didn’t start from eating BAT ratatouille or bat stir-fry???

          • draupnir February 15, 2020 at 12:30 am #

            It’s winter. Bats are hibernating. They’ve got a level four biohazard lab 20 miles from Wuhan. The index patient had no know connection with the wet market, and this has happened before.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 14, 2020 at 1:47 pm #


      Also last October they did a dry run or “exercise” of what a Coronvirus pandemic would look like and what it would take to stop it – and perhaps how much money could be made, how much closer to the World Government, etc.

      • Paul Ford O'Neil February 14, 2020 at 2:38 pm #

        On a quiet, rainy afternoon at the Basilica of The Immaculate Conception in Lourdes, France in November, 1997, my Angolan Confessor struck-up a conversation after the main event and when I mentioned I was from Seattle, he told me:

        “Several years ago a foundation from your city provided inoculations to us for measles, but in separate units for boys or girls. So we had each analyzed at a lab in Switzerland. The ‘boys’ serum was OK – the ‘girls’ would scar their fallopian tubes.”

        While I’ve read nothing of ‘Bill Gates’ involvement with “Carroña-virus”, I never forgot this anecdote from a Roman Catholic Priest – “in the confessional”.

        Carry-on til you are carrion,

        • Daddyotis February 14, 2020 at 4:17 pm #

          Wow, PFO!!

          Are you aware of any other reference on this, or was this completely anecdotal?

        • hmuller February 15, 2020 at 7:44 pm #

          I’m not a Catholic, but I was under the impression the confessional is where you tell the priest your secrets; not where he tells you his.

          • Paul Ford O'Neil February 17, 2020 at 9:54 am #


            No this was my personal experience with a Roman Catholic Priest from Angola, who was minding the Confessional at the Basilica of Lourdes on a rainey, quiet November afternoon in 1997.

            Fortunately, he spoke French, Italian & English, so we had no trouble understanding each other. AND naturally, I never forgot his testimony.


            Confession is the door to Eternal Life – crawl there if you must.

            Carry-on til you are carrion,

  16. akmofo February 14, 2020 at 12:08 pm #

    “Personally, I believe that the Attorney General is honestly trying to smoke out the truth in this morass of nefarious intrigues, and that neither attempts to block him by the perps and their allies, nor a visitation of Corona virus across the land, will thwart him.” — JHK

    The optimism gene at work.

    Question: How long did it take the DOJ to bring Roger Stone and Mike Flynn to court? Why the hold up with Mr Barr’s DOJ? How many more decades do they need to “investigate” the nefarious intrigues of the commie gov mafia? What incriminating evidence are they still missing that we already do not know about? Why not even a single person been charged?

    Maybe we need to look at Mr Barr’s bio? Maybe attending Catholic grammar school, Corpus Christi School, and Columbia University counts for something? Maybe the concept of the Vatican gov mafia is not such an illusive understanding after all?

    • BackRowHeckler February 14, 2020 at 12:39 pm #

      Good question, Akfomo.

      The wheels of justice grind exceedingly slow, except when it comes to prosecuting allies of President Trump. Then they turn at a high RPM pace.


      • Daddyotis February 14, 2020 at 4:19 pm #

        Interestingly, the wheels of justice ground exceedingly quickly for the creepy porn lawyer Avenetti. He was just found guilty of extorting Nike, and faces up to 42 years in jail.

        Gotta stick to the narrative, or there’s consequences

        • BackRowHeckler February 14, 2020 at 4:28 pm #

          Wow! And wasn’t CNN nominating Avenetti for president at a certain point?


          • newworld February 15, 2020 at 8:23 am #

            I called it a year ago before the Nike allegations that the Progs would absolutely bury Avenatti. Don’t be an obstacle to power as he became after the Kavanaugh fiasco. Never mind the GOP/conservative goofs they are only useful in legitimizing the power of the Left/Deep State.

    • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 8:29 pm #

      The DOJ has just dropped all charges against Andrew McCabe

      Mr Barr was supposed to clean house. He did nothing. He’s either an idiot putz, which he is not, or he’s a double agent. We keep seeing these double agents being hired over and over again. That’s not coincidence.

      The Vatican mafia is and was running the show all along:

      Who is chief of staff for Trump?

      In the administration of Donald Trump, the current acting chief of staff is Mick Mulvaney, who succeeded John Kelly on January 2, 2019, who himself had replaced Reince Priebus as chief of staff on July 31, 2017.

      Mulvaney attended Charlotte Catholic High School and then Georgetown University.

      And there you have it, James. There are none as stupid as the willfully blind.

      • Majella February 15, 2020 at 3:19 pm #

        ‘ Mr Barr was supposed to clean house. He did nothing. He’s either an idiot putz, which he is not, or he’s a double agent. ’

        Or – perhaps there’s no credible evidence against McCabe. It is possible that the conspiracy theories are just that – theories, spread by the small-minded who desperately seek a subterfuge as an explanation for all the things they don’t like in the world…

        • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 6:45 pm #

          The guy perjured himself several times. He should be disgraced and already sitting in jail just for that. But that’s just starters, while the DOJ and FBI and NSA and CIA and IRS is purged of commie subversives. After that, we can proceed with a little more substantial charges, like sedition and treason, and the death penalty.

          • Nightowl February 17, 2020 at 4:45 am #

            Never mind the fact that his activities are discussed repeatedly in publically available text messages from the coupsters.

            BTW, the DOJ just opened another investigation into McCabe, Comey, and the Stroker.


    • abbybwood February 15, 2020 at 12:33 am #

      Maybe Barr being knee-deep in the Gov. Bill Clinton/George H.W. Bush Mena, Arkansas cocaine running detailed in Terry Reed’s book “Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA” would be enough for any red-blooded American to doubt his sincerity??

      Maybe Barr had his “come to Jesus” moment during some recent “confession”, but I doubt it.

  17. Epicur February 14, 2020 at 12:20 pm #

    Per Zero Hedge a scientist in China has published a report that says the virus came from a lab in Wuhan – it looks legit as the guy works for a major university over there.

    They will be looking for a scapegoat.


  18. akmofo February 14, 2020 at 12:27 pm #

    This was a post posted on the last thread but is worth posting again, so you understand the people we are dealing with:

    KesaAnna, in all its long years, how many lowlife Vatican pederasts did the FBI manage to put behind bars? How many Vatican organizations and politicians did the FBI expunge for human trafficking sex trafficking drugs trafficking and general criminal racketeering?

    Funny how these Vatican criminals are invisible to the FBI. Just like the Bidens the Pelosis the Kerrys the Romneys the Podestas etc, are invisible to them. Invisible to the FBI and invisible to commie Vatican propaganda outlets.


    Makes you wonder. It certainly makes me.


    This was KesaAnna’s reply:

    I wanted to write a little essay on the subject of free porn for quarantined cruise ships and what it means .

    But your question will serve just as well.

    I doubt it is intentional , but your question is something of a trick question.

    A trick question in that often reality and rhetoric are two very different things , and certainly so in the case of sex.

    When I first came to the United States in 1976 , and the town I wound up in ,

    There were no less than four brothels , and they operated not in some back , seedy alley , but right on the main drag.

    They did a good business ; in a neighborhood that would have become run – down , it didn’t become run – down , because of these four brothels where the paint was never peeling and the masonry was never cracking.

    Indeed , one of them wound up in a 1920’s ( ?) office or small factory that would have fallen in , but didn’t , because they bought the building and restored it.

    They were relatively cheap. That is , today your choices in that regard are very expensive , or very cheap . No mid – price range , which is what they were.

    They were relatively hygienic ; one of them had a large closet full floor to ceiling with one item ; Clorox bleach. And every visit to these establishments began with a shower . ( and Clorox )

    They kept , or tried to keep , their employees away from drugs and bad characters.

    And every year they contributed generously to the police benevolent association.

    No telling how many Boy Scout and Girl Scout troops were indirectly , quietly , funded in this way.

    But then one day some enterprising politician coined the term , ” Human trafficking ” , and they were all closed.

    Now main street really is a seedy neighborhood.

    And my guess would be that brothels still exist , wildly expensive or much too cheap , seedy , a nest of drugs and really bad characters , and probably genuine human trafficking too.

    About two miles down the road was a K- Mart – sized dance hall.

    And it wasn’t shuttered. It was packed every night.

    Remember Disco ?

    Disco wasn’t music for musics sake. The idea was music you would dance to. And apparently people actually did that.

    One more detail ; About one – third of the female population , at least , wore dresses and skirts , and not untypically short ones at that.

    Now —

    The ( halfway ) decent brothels are gone , the dance halls are gone , the short skirts and dresses are gone , women look like men , and men are exceptionally frumpy and dowdy in dress.

    But the country is presumably more decadent than it was 40 years ago ???

    I have never paid a visit to theocratic Iran , so I can’t really say ,

    but certainly in every way except the rhetorical , and the theological ,

    the trend in America the past 40 years , and regardless of rhetoric , is a turn to the most Puritanical .

    — Except there is little or no Christian theology in it.

    — I would describe it as Sunni or Shia orthodox extremism , except that of course it isn’t an Islamic society.

    But it could very well be that the society is more puritanical than the Puritans , more faithful in spirit to the Islamic Republic of Iran than Iran itself.

    Porn ?

    Uh …. porn isn’t actually real people really screwing.

    Any more than the 800 people you kill in a video game adds up to real murder or real war ,

    or watching Disney’s Bambi adds up to a visit to a real forest.

    I would suggest that a profusion of porn indicates the counter – intuitive opposite ; That is , a profusion of porn indicates a lot of people NOT screwing.

    Given all of that , well , it’s kinda hard to answer your question with anything remotely like precision.

    Like , the police seemed less corrupt , and more reasonable , when they were getting kick – backs from the palatial brothels on main street.

    Now the brothels are closed ( ? ) and , no question about it , the police are fucking dangerous , but not to dangerous people .

    WTF ?


    You now understand the sick twisted mentality and persons you are dealing with. This is the culture the Vatican produces, completely incapable of self-scrutiny and criticism.

    • BackRowHeckler February 14, 2020 at 1:10 pm #

      Akfomo, just as an aside, and quite coincidentally, local CT Diocese recently released a list of all Catholic priests either convicted of sex crimes against kids, or credibly charged, and dismissed from the priesthood. (Going back a few decades)

      Unfortunately, the list is long, very long.


      • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 1:51 pm #

        It’s more than sex crimes, it’s organized human and drug trafficking and networks. These are serious Federal crimes that are completely ignored by the FBI and all the other relevant Federal agencies.

        • BackRowHeckler February 14, 2020 at 5:42 pm #

          Yes, quite right, the above mentioned have been prosecuted in state courts, not federal courts.

    • Paul Ford O'Neil February 14, 2020 at 3:56 pm #

      Pardon me ‘akmofo’,

      Main streets everywhere were filled with autos & pedestrians buying or doing something downtown up until the invention/invasion of the mall – circa 1965. Thereafter, the ‘retailers’ moved enmasse closer to the ‘consumers’ in the ‘burbs’ and main streets everywhere were boarded-up.

      “KesaAnna’s” ‘sex-in-the-city’ story preposterously confirms:


      US-i-cants are the most docile control-group in human history, manipulated primarily through their genitals by their Garchs with:


      Meanwhile, the ONLY difference between the ‘vatican’ – ‘capitol’ – ‘church’ – ‘synagogue’ – ‘temple’ – ‘school’ – ‘corporation’ – ‘bank’ – ‘state’ is the degree to which the demonic-marxist-feminist cult has infiltrated, occupied, tyrannized and looted same.

      Our host has well documented these manipulations as they relate to politics and the geography of nowhere.

      Read a little Dr. E. Michael Jones:


      or G. Michael Voris:


      to grasp the reality of this occupation.

      Carry-on til you are carrion,

    • abbybwood February 15, 2020 at 12:44 am #

      Also funny how the FBI let Epstein continue his felonious pedophile activities with some of the richest men in the world. Also hilarious how he was obviously murdered while under intense surveillance at the Manhattan Correction facility.

      It was obvious to the world that Epstein was murdered and Barr said that what happened was “outrageous!”

      But what was the main question Barr was concerned with? Why the guards fell asleep!

      • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 3:05 pm #


        Every time I look at Barr I see a snake trying his hardest not to laugh at the face of the idiots who believe anything he says.

      • SpeedyBB February 17, 2020 at 7:47 pm #

        For a convicted sex offender, on the Register, to continue openly with his shenanigans in the same location as he previously got nailed for points for me to one highly-likely scenario: he was under orders to run a well-documented, in living color and digital audio, HONEYPOT.

        • SpeedyBB February 17, 2020 at 7:50 pm #

          For whose benefit was said honeypot set up and run openly? The prime candidate would seem to be Mossad but then again many of TPTB would like to have updated J. Edgar Hoover-type files on these VVIPs, for possible reference at some future date.

          “Your tax dollars at work.”

  19. BackRowHeckler February 14, 2020 at 12:35 pm #

    It seems like one half of the federal government is busy investigating the other half, and vice versa. Meanwhile, the world moves on, and business needs attending to.


    • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 2:47 pm #

      The question is, is it a staged show, or not? What do you think?

      • BackRowHeckler February 14, 2020 at 3:27 pm #

        Nah, not staged, Akfomo.

        Hatred for this president is real, seems to be driving everything in DC.

        • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 8:36 pm #

          The “investigations” are staged. Barr is one of them and was hired by one of them. Trump doesn’t know what you and I know. He’s completely blind to the Vatican mafia and he keeps hiring their agents.

          • hmuller February 15, 2020 at 7:52 pm #

            I’m only a intellectual midget compared to the exalted AG Barr. But even I know not to leave Jeffrey Epstein (with everything he knows) in a cell where he can be easily killed. Dare we think that was the intention from the start?

          • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 9:46 pm #

            Dare we think that was the intention from the start?

            It’s the same reason Barr refuses to prosecute any of the seditious Vatican commies on simple and clear cut multiple perjury counts. Because the second a single one of them commies realizes they will face years of prison time instead of book tours and CNN sponsorship, they will start singing and rat the whole conspiracy and conspirators. Barr and the whole lot of them were all buying time for Hillary. They did well. Almost 4 years and nada.

          • Nightowl February 17, 2020 at 4:47 am #

            Barr is under attack from the usual suspects. He is the real deal.


  20. Janos Skorenzy February 14, 2020 at 1:00 pm #

    Tucker Carlson delivers a monologue on an immigration bill proposal backed by 44 House Democrats, including Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) and Rep. Ilhan Omar (R-MN). (VIDEO)

    TUCKER CARLSON, FOX NEWS: At this moment there is a bill pending in Congress called the New Way Forward Act. It’s received almost no publicity, which is unfortunate, as well as revealing. The legislation is sponsored by 44 House Democrats, including Ilhan Omar and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. At roughly 4,400 words, it’s almost exactly as long as the U.S. Constitution. Like the Constitution, it’s designed to create a whole new country. The bill would entirely remake our immigration system, with the explicit purpose of ensuring that criminals are able to move here, and settle here permanently, with impunity.

    You may think we’re exaggerating for effect. We’re not — not even a little. The New Way Forward act is the single most radical single piece of legislation we’ve seen proposed in this country. It makes the Green New Deal look like the status quo. A document produced by Democrats to promote the bill says this, and we’re quoting verbatim: “Convictions … should not lead to deportation.” Keep in mind, we’re not talking about convictions for double parking. The bill targets felony convictions, serious crimes that send you to prison for years. A press release from Congressman Jesus Garcia of Illinois is explicit about this. Garcia brags that the bill will break the, quote, “prison to deportation pipeline.” How does the bill do that? Under current U.S. law, legal U.S. immigrants can be deported if they commit an “aggravated felony” or a “crime of moral turpitude”—that is, a vile, depraved act, like molesting a child. Under the New Way Forward Act, “crimes of moral turpitude” are eliminated entirely as a justification for deportation.

    And the category of “aggravated felony” gets eliminated too. What does that mean? Consider this: Under current law, immigrants who commit serious crimes — robbery to fraud to child sexual abuse — must be deported, regardless of the sentence they receive. Other crimes, less severe ones like racketeering, require deportation as long as the perpetrator receives at least a one-year sentence. If this bill passes, there will no longer be any crimes that automatically require deportation. None. And one crime, falsifying a passport, will be made immune from deportation, no matter what. Because apparently 9-11 never happened, and we no longer care about fake government documents. If you just renewed your driver’s license to comply with the Real ID Act, you must feel like an idiot. Under the proposed legislation, for crimes would still allow deportation, the required prison sentence would rise from one year, to five. We checked the Bureau of Justice Statistics. According to federal data, crimes likes car theft, fraud, and weapons offenses all carry average prison sentences of fewer than five years. And that’s just looking at averages. There are people who commit rape, child abuse, and even manslaughter and receive sentences of fewer than five years. Lots of them. If the New Way Forward Act passes, immigrants who commit those crimes, and receive those sentences, would remain in the country. They’ll all be eligible for citizenship one day, too.

    But even that is understating the law’s effect. Even a five-year prison sentence won’t necessarily be enough to secure deportation. The bill would grant sweeping new powers to immigration judges, allowing them to nullify a deportation order. The only requirement is that, quote, “the immigration judge finds such an exercise of discretion appropriate in pursuit of humanitarian purposes, to assure family unity, or when it is otherwise in the public interest.” In other words, anti-American immigration judges — and many of them are exactly that — would have a blank check to open the borders. No vote required.

    Sound shocking to you? We’re just getting started. Current U.S. law makes drug addiction grounds for deportation, because why wouldn’t it? This bill would eliminate that statute. Current law also states that those who have committed drug crimes abroad, or any “crimes involving moral turpitude,” are ineligible to immigrate here. The New Way Forward Act abolishes that statute. A Mexican drug cartel leader could be released from prison, then freely come to America immediately. And if he wants, he could come here illegally, and it wouldn’t be a crime — because, and you were waiting for this, the bill also decriminalizes illegal entry into America, even by those previously deported. According to a document promoting the bill, criminalizing illegal entry into America is quote, “white supremacist.” By this point, you’re beginning to wonder if we’re making this up. We’re not. In fact, we’re barely halfway through the bill. The legislation doesn’t just make it harder to deport legal immigrants who commit crimes. It doesn’t just make it easier for criminals to legally move here. The bill would also effectively abolish all existing enforcement against illegal immigration. To detain illegal immigrants, ICE would have to prove in court that they are dangerous or a flight risk. But of course ICE wouldn’t be allowed to use a detainee’s prior criminal behavior as proof they’re dangerous. That’s banned. ICE would have to overcome even more hurdles if the detainee claims to be gay or transgendered, if they’re under 21, or if they can’t speak English and an interpreter isn’t immediately available. In other words, it would be much harder to arrest an illegal alien than it is to arrest you. They’re the protected class here. You’re just some loser who’s paying for it all. But believe it or not, we saved the nuttiest part for last. What could be more destructive than changing U.S. law, specifically to allow rapists, child molesters, and drug dealers to stay in America? How about this: Using taxpayer money to bring deported criminals back into America.

    That’s right. This bill would not only abolish your right to control who lives in your own country, but it invents a new right in return: the “right to come home.” It orders the government to create a, quote, “Pathway for those previously deported to apply to return to their homes and families in the United States,” as long as they would have been eligible to stay under the new law. DHS must spend taxpayer dollars transporting convicted criminal illegal aliens into the United States. Who will be eligible for these free flights? Tens of thousands of people kicked out of this country for all kinds of crimes. Sexual abuse. Robbery. Assault. Drug trafficking, weapons trafficking, human trafficking. From 2002 to 2018, 480,000 people were deported for illegal entry or reentry into America. And under this bill, you’d have to buy them all a plane ticket to come back. The tickets alone would cost about a billion dollars, and that’s before Democrats make you start paying for these criminals’ free health care, too. Which they plan to.

    The New Way Forward Act that fundamentally inverts every assumption you have about America. Under this legislation, the criminals are the victims. Law enforcement is illegitimate. It’s racist, just like the country you live in, and the only solution is to get rid of both. America would be better off as a borderless rest area for the world’s worst predators and parasites.

    This is a big deal. It’s hard to believe any American would put these ideas on paper, much less pass them into law. Yet, remarkably, the press has ignored it. Scores of Democrats have backed it, but the bill hasn’t been mentioned in The New York Times, or on CNN, or even in self-described conservative outlets like National Review. If a lone Republican state legislator from Minot, North Dakota had proposed a bill this extreme, that would remake America this completely, the president himself would be expected to answer for it. CNN would demand he “disavow,” even if he knew nothing about it. But when one-fifth of the Democratic caucus backs a bill demanding that you pay to import illegal alien felons, it’s a non-event in American media. They don’t think you should know about it. That’s dangerous. Whether the press cares or not, these are the stakes of the 2020 election. A growing wing of the Democratic party views America as essentially illegitimate — a rogue state, in which everything must be destroyed and remade: our laws, our institutions, our freedoms, our history, our values. That’s the point of all this, of course. An entirely new country, in which resistance is crushed, and they’re in charge forever.

    JS: Late is the Hour! Woe unto Gotham. Woe unto the Great City! The wolves are circling the exhausted, wounded Buck, as he struggles to bear the weight of his great antlers. The Sun is setting, the red light gleaming luridly off the snow. Soon the snow will be dyed red from another source….

    He cannot run but mayhap he will summon the remnants of his strength and take one or two of them with him into death.

    You fools. You utter absolute fools. Left, Right, Democrat, Republican – full spectrum idiocy to allow things to get to this point. You believed the wrong people. You elected the jackals and wolves that now circle you, their eyes glowing in fiendish triumph as the Darkness gathers.

    You didn’t know? You didn’t want to know. So you are evil too. You only cared about looking good in front of other people and that meant having the correct opinion. No inner life at all. And if you knew better, you still held back – and that’s even worse. To whom much is given, much is asked. Or you adopted either of these two strategies out of greed or the desire to advance in your career. Thus you deserve what is in store for you. The Tragedy belongs to the innocent people you are dragging down with you.

    • Billy Hill February 14, 2020 at 1:30 pm #

      The United States of America will not survive this legislation. The United States of America might not even survive the mere fact that this proposal represents the intent of large numbers of people.

      • CancelMyCard February 14, 2020 at 2:02 pm #


        This legislation will not make it past the Senate, and if by some miracle it did, Trump would veto it.

        Not time yet to get your knickers in a twist.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 14, 2020 at 2:07 pm #

          Yeah just wait until Bernie gets in. Or Mayor Pete. They’ll pass it or something like it. Then you will be happy, right? Or at least until an ordinance is passed that you have to let street people use your bathroom upon request. It’ll be a public health issue….

          • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 2:44 pm #

            Elizabeth Warren, CNN, and Infinite Wokeness (THE SAAD TRUTH_1010)


            Gad Saad on the commie mafia parasitized by genocidal idea pathogens.

          • CancelMyCard February 14, 2020 at 9:55 pm #

            Hey Janos,

            I’d pose as a homeless person,

            if I could come up and use your bathroom.


        • abbybwood February 15, 2020 at 12:50 am #

          Right. Let them try to promote this travesty to the deplorables.

          Ain’t goin’ nowhere.

    • sprawlcapital February 14, 2020 at 2:18 pm #

      Janos–As you are aware, you are not the most popular person on this comment board, but, over the years, you have often brought important information to our attention.

      Your post, above, of commentary by Tucker Carlson, is of the utmost importance. It well may put the final nail in the coffin of whatever support I still had for the Democratic Party.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 14, 2020 at 4:13 pm #

        Thank you. It’s one of the reasons I do what I do. Other reasons include keeping an online journal and getting to express myself. In many ways, the Matrix is now more real than the physical world. In the end, both are just dancing particles, thus their Reality can only be judged by the quality of the consciousness invoked therein. If this is where I can reach the Volk, here I will remain.

        • malthuss February 14, 2020 at 5:20 pm #

          we luv u

        • Farmer McGregor February 14, 2020 at 9:27 pm #

          Holy Shite, Janos! Since the movie (The Matrix) came out I have pointed to it as an apt metaphor for the difference between the “cubicle job/suburban house/sell your time for money to make your loan payments and to buy ALL of your survival necessities from nameless faceless corporations and government institutions” lifestyle where you are a cog in a machine (a body in a stasis pod acting as a battery) for the purpose of generating revenue for the enriching of ‘the machine’ — contrasted with living off the land, producing as much of your own food as practicable and striving to minimize your dependence on cash money and those corporate and government institutions; in effect, trying to disconnect from The Matrix.

          I discuss this a lot with other like-minded homesteader (and prepper) types both young and old. The movie really provides a great metaphor. We regularly use the term ‘matrix’ as a reference to ordinary life in normal industrial society.

          So when you come along and write “In many ways, the Matrix is now more real than the physical world” it was like a body blow to me! The ‘machine’ is winning, and us natural-born folk may well be crushed by it before we can solidify the self-sufficient agrarian communities we will need to survive the imminent collapse. Holy Shite!

          • CancelMyCard February 14, 2020 at 10:03 pm #

            Nah, don’t worry.

            It will all work out.

            The human race has survived Ice Ages & Glaciers, Massive Plagues, Enormous Economic Debacles, Pandemics, Wars of every type, size, and scale . . . . and many minor things like Depressions, Famines, and Volcanoes.

            Yet . . . . we are still here.

            Amazing that.

            And it will go on.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 15, 2020 at 1:42 am #

            The internet is now the last remaining town square and free press – and is hard beset now in turn. So in a strange but essential sense, it is more real than outer Matrix. And in some ways, more real than even a back to the Earth community that was very narrow minded or dictatorial to its members.

    • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 2:43 pm #

      Elizabeth Warren, CNN, and Infinite Wokeness (THE SAAD TRUTH_1010)


      Gad Saad on the commie mafia parasitized by genocidal idea pathogens.

      • BackRowHeckler February 14, 2020 at 5:40 pm #

        Dr Saad. New to me. Very interesting Akfomo, thanks.

    • Tate February 15, 2020 at 2:52 pm #

      @ Janos,


      Tucker has to be careful in choosing his battles. Many on the left are howling for his head. But this is a bill that is offensive to the overwhelming majority of normal people.

      The hour is late! Legacy America cannot be saved in its present form but some remnant of her can be.

  21. capt spaulding February 14, 2020 at 1:04 pm #

    It’s really a good thing that we have an Attorney General like Barr on the job. The way he’s standing up to Trump shows that he is a conscientious man, a two fisted attorney, whose goal is to preserve respect for law and order, and that he won’t let anything undercut the faith that the country has in our legal system. If we had more people like him, we would be in much better shape as a country.

    • Nightowl February 14, 2020 at 1:38 pm #


      By next week you will have egg on your face for, what, the 40th time?

      Even Maggie Haberman has figured out what is going on.

      • benr February 14, 2020 at 3:01 pm #

        Indeed the progressive types that spew the talking points de jour from Democrat pieholes over and over are wrong.
        Yet here they are spewing more ridiculous crap in the hopes that once just once they will get something right and oh how they will crow about it tell then all they get is to eat more crow day by day and get just a little more unhinged.
        Imagine what another four years of Lord God Emperor orange one will do to their already flagging self esteem and their tenuous grip on reality.
        One would think after three years of shrill screaming they would learn to just pipe down.

        • Nightowl February 14, 2020 at 6:16 pm #

          It really is amazing.

          I couldn’t be bothered to post here again if were one of our regular NPCs.

          The shame would be too great.

          • Farmer McGregor February 14, 2020 at 9:31 pm #

            …to post here again if were one of our regular NPCs…”

            Exactly what is that supposed to mean?

          • Nightowl February 15, 2020 at 12:38 pm #

            NPC stands for non-player character. Is a meme for the folks who repeat MSM talking points verbatim and would appear to be incapable of original or critical thought.

            For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqqwTgk8ri0

          • Majella February 15, 2020 at 3:27 pm #

            ‘ The shame would be too great.’

            What exactly is THAT supposed to mean?

  22. BackRowHeckler February 14, 2020 at 1:16 pm #

    “Faith the country has in our legal system”. – Captain

    Haha. We learn yesterday in Ct three accused rapists and murderers, illegal aliens, being held by state authorities for serious crimes committed within CT, because of sanctuary laws, were released before they could be taken into custody by ICE, in fact were released secretly so ICE could not get at them. That really inspires a lot of faith in our justice system, does it not, Captain?


    • capt spaulding February 14, 2020 at 8:16 pm #

      I guess it’s just too much to expect you to understand sarcasm when you read it. That explains a lot of your posts. That really inspires a lot of faith in your ignorance,does it not? It’s a shame to waste good sarcasm on the uncomprehending.

      • BackRowHeckler February 14, 2020 at 8:43 pm #

        But its not good sarcasm. It’s not clear enough.

        • capt spaulding February 15, 2020 at 8:44 am #

          Not clear enough for you, apparently.

          • Nightowl February 15, 2020 at 6:29 pm #

            It wasn’t sarcasm.

            You do this each time a new prog talking point is released.

            Then the egg. It lands on your face.

  23. wet dog February 14, 2020 at 1:43 pm #

    I wonder how Americans will react when the rest of the NBA season is cancelled because people are too scared to go to the arenas? And then baseball is shut down. Imagine the drunk next to your luxury seat coughs, and next thing you know you’re in quarantine with 5,000 other fans. Quarantine isn’t the 4 Seasons.

    I heard they just quarantined a village of 10,000 in Vietnam. This seems to be a slow motion train wreck. Drips every day.

    When do shortages hit our hospitals because China can’t export the meds, the antibiotics? How can we manage a viral outbreak here when most of our meds come from China? The global supply chain, the JIT system, is slowly imploding. Does anyone know what that really means? How long can China be shut down before serious effects happen here? We’re in a brand new world. Let’s hope it stabilizes by the end of march, and the speed bump isn’t too harsh.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 14, 2020 at 2:11 pm #

      There will be whores and rumors of whores. The marketplace is open! Even on Molokai among the lepers once upon a time. Don’t know if they’re still there though. Probly not. Sorry to get your hopes up, hunglo.

      • onehunglo February 14, 2020 at 2:16 pm #

        ah, janos, you onehunglo’s favorite white nationalist socialist!!
        onehunglo assure great deal to be had in market…
        keep buy our slave manufacture goods to you hearts content!
        shop till you drop!!

        that ok.
        let not you heart be troubled.
        may God be with you!


        • elysianfield February 14, 2020 at 7:23 pm #


          …that’s just Wong….

    • benr February 14, 2020 at 3:03 pm #

      No this is exactly what is needed shorter supply trains for all countries.
      More produced locally will ultimately bring down the prices and employ more people.
      Screw China and a pox upon their house.

    • abbybwood February 15, 2020 at 1:08 am #

      Seriously, who in his/her right mind would want to TOUCH anything coming out of China??

      The Coronavirus lives on flat surfaces for weeks!

      You wanna talk about a Supreme Clusterfuck?!

      • hmuller February 15, 2020 at 8:05 pm #

        Apparently, people in New Hampshire would not touch Andrew Yang with a 10 ft chopstick. Another one bites the dust. (Mayor Pete just bites the pillow.)

        When will Elizabeth Warren drop out? Oh so many stories, such an imagination on that one.

    • Majella February 15, 2020 at 3:30 pm #

      The money in basketball isn’t coming from the stadium gates – it’s from television, and so while there may be no-one in the audience, the game itself won’t be halted by a virus, surely.

  24. econojames February 14, 2020 at 2:18 pm #

    Long-time reader here, first-time commenter.

    Excellent column, Jim, as usual, and touches on many things I’ve been mulling over re: our tanking economy. Not such a bad idea to bring manufacturing back to our own shores, but maybe we should have started a little sooner.

    That’s a nice segue into what I’ve wanted to mention ever since Jim announced his new book, _Living in the Long Emergency_. Its predecessor was one of the most important books I’ve read, and this one promises to be EXTREMELY relevant, perhaps in short order. I know not everyone can afford to buy a copy (I sure can’t, being laid off right now…), but everyone CAN make a purchase request at your local library: then you get to read the book, others in the community can discover it, and our host gets another cut of book sales. My library took me up on my purchase request, and I’m eagerly looking forward to the read. My best to y’all.

    • James Kuehl February 14, 2020 at 3:00 pm #

      Glad to see a new contributor here, econojames. JHK’s The Long Emergency is a tour de force. I’m sure many of us are looking forward to the next installment. He’s an important voice. Those of us who appreciate his work should do what we can to support his work. That includes buying his books and asking our libraries to acquire them like you did.

    • Farmer McGregor February 14, 2020 at 9:40 pm #

      I asked our local library to stock TLE after it came out years ago (along with some of Greer’s and Heinberg’s works) and was icily informed that they only bring in books that are on the approved list from the Forces Of Politically Correct Idiocy or some such “official” list of acceptable books put out by somebody somewhere. And if I bought the books and donated them, they would discard them. Ten years later, they now have some of them.

    • BackRowHeckler February 15, 2020 at 7:38 am #

      Yeah same here economo, local library has bought about 6 of Jim’s books at my request. Really all I’ve had to do is make a request and they put in an order, seem happy to do so.

  25. Vinnie the Vintner February 14, 2020 at 3:29 pm #

    Well, there goes the egg facial, Nightowl. McCabe exonerated while Flynn tries to figure out how to pay for his Medicare supplement.

    RE: New Way Forward. Just watch and listen to people, even your own kin.

    Former neighbor’s son, age 23: “it’s time to start spreading the wealth around. People at McDonalds should make $20/hr and only have to work thirty hours a week.” Daddy still pays the cell phone bill. Yeessh!

    Friend’s sister, age 57 : “everybody, especially minorities, should get free health care and a monthly stipend. They are victims.” She sits your cats for a living. So bitter, too. Yeeesssh!

    My favorite. Grocery clerk to nicely dressed black lady, probably age 60: “I am sorry but I cannot accept food stamps for dog food.” Her reply, “That’s ok, Sugar, I will go back and get him a steak.”

    Chapel Hill now has privilege walks. If either one of your parents went to college take a step forward. If your mommy read to you at night take a step forward. The last ones were the ones that really pissed me off. Do you stand to inherit any money from any of your family members? Do you stand to inherit any land?

    I call it a walk of shame.

    Like COV19, 20 and 21 coming, this shit is spreading quickly. Soon to be outnumbered.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 14, 2020 at 4:07 pm #

      Yes, Life should remain as difficult as possible. Technology was invented to replace workers and make the owner and managerial class rich. Everyone else should have to compete with desperate immigrants ready to do anything and living ten to a room.

      People have gotten soft! We must screw them even harder, for their own good, using the swarthies as our foot soldiers.

    • SW February 14, 2020 at 4:46 pm #

      Vinnie — About 2 months ago there was a woman mid-fifties and a young man mid-twenties (my guess, mother & son) in line in front of me at the grocery store. They had a large cart full of only meat — about 30 packages — and all of it was paid for with food stamps. They’re probably running a food truck subsidized by taxpayers.

      If the coronavirus turns out to be anywhere near as lethal as the Spanish flu, we’re in big trouble. It’s estimated it infected 1 out of 4 people and the death toll could have been as high as 50 million but due to inadequate records, no one can be sure the numbers are correct. No one disputes the fact however that it spread to every area on the globe. Another thing to keep in mind is the second wave of the flu was deadlier than the first. From Wikipedia:

      “The first wave had resembled typical flu epidemics; those most at risk were the sick and elderly, while younger, healthier people recovered easily. By August, when the second wave began in France, Sierra Leone, and the United States, the virus had mutated to a much deadlier form. October 1918 was the deadliest month of the whole pandemic.”

      • malthuss February 14, 2020 at 5:19 pm #

        the aliens in USA, working the system.

        Ive a story to top that.
        ‘Jeff’ had a family in the dry cleaning biz.
        They sold chemical solutions for such places.family [in so cali] needed a new line of work. Koreans buy from their own.
        Koreans bought the places up.
        The one he worked at now at 2 entrances..one for owners, one for workers.
        Workers were to bow to bosses.
        he heard their korean sing song peppered with SBA loan.

      • malthuss February 14, 2020 at 5:23 pm #

        when the earth had 1 billion? 50m= 1 in 20.

        • SW February 14, 2020 at 7:55 pm #

          The Great Influenza by John Barry is the best book on this subject. From what I’ve read, there are estimates of the death toll as low as 17 million and as high as 100 million. Some countries were hit harder than others and some, like India, they don’t know how many died from the flu or other causes during the same time period. We probably won’t have completely accurate figures with coronavirus either.

      • Vinnie the Vintner February 15, 2020 at 6:30 am #

        Used to run a general merchandise/c-store in the mid-nineties in a rural setting when food stamps were paper dollars. Offers to accept a $10 stamp for several quarts of Old English 800 and some smokes totaling about six bucks occurred every day, as well as cash solicitations. Sorry, no can do.

        Baby Momma sends Junior in to buy one freaking piece on bubble gum for a nickel and gets $.95 back. Yes, candy and gum fell under the auspices of government nutrition. Then little sister comes in to get her a piece, and change. Baby Momma then comes in to get her cigs and a Double-Duece with the coinage I gave the kids just recycled. This is a way of life. When you’re taught this at a young age there is little hope of escaping.

        Another good one is using the change to buy $.95 worth of gas, which was around $1.20. One customer did this four times in one day. Go run a c-store for a few years and see what you think about life and your fellow man/woman after a few months. Be ready if you do because 94.65% will steal from you and call you a rich MF’er.

    • Nightowl February 14, 2020 at 5:36 pm #


      Same thing happened to Comey. McCabe is also under investigation by Durham, and that has not concluded.

      Flynn will be a free man. Visit his lawyer’s Twitter (Sidney Powell). The government’s case has fallen apart.

      There are much bigger things ahead.

    • K-Dog February 14, 2020 at 6:08 pm #

      “it’s time to start spreading the wealth around. People at McDonalds should make $20/hr and only have to work thirty hours a week.”

      He is right about that you know. They should probably get national health care too. On top of that. Dogs eating steak? I’m good with that.

      • Vinnie the Vintner February 15, 2020 at 7:05 am #


        Not quite sure if you’re being facetious or gas-lighting, so I’ll skip the long soliloquy, but I have zero tolerance for sorriness. Once upon a time I worked three minimum wage jobs to make ends meet. No whining, no envy of my friends and neighbors. I just went to work and adjusted my lifestyle. “Oh, Lord, won’t you buy me a Mercedes Benz. My friends all drive Porches”.

        My Doberman and Poodle got their Valentine steaks last night.


        • K-Dog February 15, 2020 at 8:50 pm #

          Not being facetious or gas-lighting. I’m just adding up the externalities. ‘one upon a time’ You turned it into all about you. It is not about you.

          Once upon a time when K-Dog worked minimum wage jobs he knew someone claiming they were working three jobs was full of shit.

          Two maybe.

  26. Cargill February 14, 2020 at 4:18 pm #

    Understand, this wicked business is just another ploy engineered by the same combined Deep State / Lawfare scoundrels that ran RussiaGate, MuellerGate, and UkraineGate, and the real purpose of it is to stave off efforts to prosecute a pretty broad network of those same former and current officials in the FBI, DOJ, CIA, State Department, Pentagon, Obama White House, and the Clinton Foundation for seditious conspiracy and, yes, possibly even treason.

    Congratulations Jim … in one paragraph you wrap up just about every infantile nut-fudge, tinfoil-hat, fruit-loop, far-right, paranoia-driven wet dream conspiracy of the loopy half of the population. Fox News and the Repubs couldn’t do it any better.

    Anything to divert from the professional crime family in the White House, and the most corrupt and anti-democratic bunch of grifters ever assembled to form a cabinet and administration.

    William Barr is arguably the most venal, corrupt, and partisan AG the nation has ever endured … and his views about a theocratic country being preferable to democracy are genuinely scary.

    That’s the trouble with Papists in particular, and Christians in general … they always work to a ‘higher authority’ , and always have a long line of back-up excuses for why they do not have to be responsive to regular voters, but rather wish to impose their own perverted views on others.

    Thank god for atheists.

    • Nightowl February 14, 2020 at 6:02 pm #

      Here he is again. Big claims.

      But no actual crimes listed or evidence provided.


      • BackRowHeckler February 14, 2020 at 7:10 pm #

        He’s got CNN International turned on, permanently.

        • benr February 14, 2020 at 7:26 pm #

          Piped straight into his Fosters soaked two brain cells.

          • Farmer McGregor February 14, 2020 at 9:46 pm #

            Wow! He’s not got just TDS, but also JHK-DS!

    • BornToKillPeace February 15, 2020 at 1:21 am #

      “Thank god for atheists.”

      What a ….

      • Cargill February 15, 2020 at 7:04 am #

        You don’t like atheists? We’re the only interesting people on the planet. Everyone else is infantile and child-like. Defective, in fact.

        • newworld February 15, 2020 at 8:29 am #

          Even POCs?

        • BackRowHeckler February 15, 2020 at 8:46 am #

          In the 20th century the two main parties representing atheists were the Bolsheviks and Nazis … both ‘interested in people on the planet’,


  27. lbs February 14, 2020 at 5:09 pm #

    A petty peeve from the math police.

    It always seems weird to me when the word “logarithmic” is used for “exponential”. Logarithmic is basically the opposite of exponential. log(x) is a function that increases feebly. An exponential, like 10 to the x or e to the x, in contrast, accelerates more and more the bigger it gets. That’s the appropriate math term for a process that grows out of control.

    • tucsonspur February 14, 2020 at 5:58 pm #

      What are the numbers and the time period involved? Log function is the inverse of the exponential. Yes, the exponential is the one that ‘explodes’.

      • BackRowHeckler February 14, 2020 at 7:07 pm #


        What you’re saying basically is the Angle of the Dangle = the Heat of the Meat, \A~?D?= H?M\

        Am I right on that?

        • elysianfield February 14, 2020 at 7:32 pm #

          your equation is not complete;

          Angle of the Dangle equals the heat of the meat TIMES the mass of the ass, or;


          • BackRowHeckler February 14, 2020 at 7:37 pm #

            Good call. It’s been awhile since I sat in on an algebra class, E. I need to brush up on it.

          • capt spaulding February 14, 2020 at 8:20 pm #

            You left out the square of the hair.

          • tucsonspur February 15, 2020 at 3:17 am #

            Ha, ha! Oh you naughty boys! Teacher (she has a nice tight ass and breasts breaking out of jail) is going to give you a good, hard spanking!

  28. wpa_ccc February 14, 2020 at 5:58 pm #

    “No need. Durham and Barr seem quite busy with investigations.” –nightowl

    Yeah, for the last two years they have covered up the fact that the grand jury, who saw all the evidence about McCabe, would not convict… blowing a hole in Trump’s “deep state” theory.

    Now Barr is criticizing Trump for meddling in investigations “making it impossible to do his job”

    There is no deep state. There are innocents being framed by Trump without any evidence.

    • Nightowl February 14, 2020 at 6:15 pm #

      Busy Barr has Little Jane losing her marbles.

    • Cargill February 14, 2020 at 6:56 pm #

      Durham and Barr seem quite busy with investigations

      The DOJ has just dropped all charges against Andrew McCabe … the lunar right will be in a twist again, I’m sure.

      • benr February 14, 2020 at 7:29 pm #

        Corruption not even a hint of a real investigation much like Hillary an her investigation the finding was written before the investigation started.
        And here you are reveling in this simple factoid.
        Leftists rarely get into trouble for their corruption.
        Actual war hero’s on the right how ever go to jail for their corruption.
        How ever throw the book at Oliver Stone hell he is so evil he gets a sentence far harsher than manslaughter convicted and rapists.

        The DOJ is covering for their own because if they don’t they know the house of cards will tumble.

        • Cargill February 14, 2020 at 7:39 pm #

          Perhaps you mean Roger Stone?

      • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 8:16 pm #

        The DOJ has just dropped all charges against Andrew McCabe

        I was suspecting something like this. Mr Barr was supposed to clean house. He did nothing. He’s either an idiot putz, which he is not, or he’s another sleazy Vatican mafia snake ala Reinhold Richard “Reince” Priebus. We keep seeing these double agents being hired over and over again. That’s not coincidence.

        The Vatican mafia was and is running the show all along:

        Who is chief of staff for Trump?

        In the administration of Donald Trump, the current acting chief of staff is Mick Mulvaney, who succeeded John Kelly on January 2, 2019, who himself had replaced Reince Priebus as chief of staff on July 31, 2017. Mulvaney was born in Alexandria, Virginia, to Michael “Mike,” a real estate developer,[14] and Kathleen “Kathy” Mulvaney, a teacher.[15] He grew up in Charlotte, North Carolina.[16] He later moved to Indian Land, South Carolina.[17][18] His grandparents were originally from County Mayo, Ireland.[19] He attended Charlotte Catholic High School and then Georgetown University.

        And there you have it, James. There are none as stupid as the willfully blind.

        • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 9:03 pm #

          Early life and education

          Kelly was born on May 11, 1950, in Boston, Massachusetts, the son of Josephine “Honey” (Pedalino) and John F. Kelly. His family was Catholic, his father of Irish ancestry and his mother of Italian descent.[5][6][7][8] His father was a postal worker in Brighton.[9] He grew up in the Brighton neighborhood of Boston.[8] Before he reached the age of 16, he hitchhiked to Washington state and rode the trains back, including a freight-hop from Seattle to Chicago.[8][10] He then served for one year in the United States Merchant Marine, where he says “my first time overseas was taking 10,000 tons of beer to Vietnam”.[10][11]

          In 1970, when his mother told him that his draft number was coming up, he enlisted in the U.S. Marine Corps.[7][8][10] He served in an infantry company with the 2nd Marine Division at Camp Lejeune, North Carolina, and was discharged to the inactive reserve as a sergeant in 1972 so that he could attend college.[7][8][10] He returned to active duty with the Marines in 1975, completed Officer Candidates School, and was commissioned as a second lieutenant on December 27, 1975.[7][12] In 1976, he graduated from the University of Massachusetts Boston and in 1984, he received a Master of Arts degree in National Security Affairs from the Georgetown School of Foreign Service.[7][13]

          • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 9:23 pm #

            Master of Arts degree in National Security Affairs from the Georgetown School of Foreign Service !!!

            Capish?!! How much more in the face does it need to get?

          • malthuss February 15, 2020 at 10:46 am #

            ak–it is capisce

          • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 5:53 pm #


            Parlevou Englesch? It’s whatever I or you or whoever decides to transcribe and spell it as. Kapish?!

        • Nightowl February 15, 2020 at 12:41 pm #


          There is no point in charging McCabe for the rather minor crimes he was referred for in the IG report. Many saw this coming.

          McCabe is still under investigation by Durham.

          • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 6:06 pm #

            They said the same regards Comey. Let me ask you this, why can’t they bring these criminals to trial several different times on several different charges? Bankrupt these commies with legal fees. Get them into court and behind bars instead of CNN shows and book tours!

          • Nightowl February 15, 2020 at 6:33 pm #

            Why? Charge him for lying (which he did, and it is documented on several occasions), when the punishment might be a slap on the wrist vs. the larger crime (sedition)?

            He is a key player in an unprecedented coup on a sitting president.

            And you want to see him tried for lying to congress?

          • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 7:52 pm #

            I’m asking why not do both. Why not disgrace and bankrupt these fscks with multiple perjury indictments and decades in prison. And then when they actually clean up the DOJ the FBI the NSA the CIA the IRS of commie subversives, continue with trials of sedition and treason, and the death penalty.

          • Nightowl February 16, 2020 at 5:43 pm #


            Time and resources. Particularly in the case of Comey, intent is a difficult thing to prove in court of law — even more so in a stacked DC court.

            They put Durham on the job to prosecute. The IG didn’t have that power.

            I may end up wrong, but have not been wrong yet in terms of predictions based on the evidence at hand.

            No way it ends with nothing. McCabe is not low level.

          • akmofo February 16, 2020 at 10:18 pm #

            What time and resources? You mean to tell me they couldn’t on the first day running prove that Comey illegally leaked secret government information even though he publicly admitted to it? They couldn’t prove that he stole the most sensitive government property even though he, again, publicly admitted to it?

            You seriously believe this idiotic circus show — that these professional government prosecutors with the full and unlimited resources of the government are that incompetent? You believe that this is the honest result of almost 4 years of their awareness and involvement in these matters, including FISA fraud and illegal surveillances? ZERO charges?!! You believe that they couldn’t bring an easy conviction in such clear cut in your face criminality so that Comey will sing cry and beg to turn in all the other seditious fscks? And the same with McCabe.

            It’s no wonder these arrogant fscks think they can do whatever they want, including taking out the President. They see the people of the country as complete chumps. And I’ll tell you, I have a hard time arguing that they’re wrong. It is absolutely scandalous what’s going on here. There’s just no going around it.

          • Nightowl February 17, 2020 at 4:55 am #

            It is scandalous, no doubt.

            But there is much we do not know.

            I am just going with the availalbe evidence, and I see no reason why the DOJ would prosecute for such minor crimes when the individuals in quesiton are part of something much larger.

            Time will tell.

      • Nightowl February 15, 2020 at 12:39 pm #

        Durham hasn’t.


    • abbybwood February 15, 2020 at 2:10 am #

      The totally fraudulent FISA application against Carter Page was TOTAL fraud, as I hope everyone shall soon see.

      • Cargill February 15, 2020 at 6:30 am #

        The totally fraudulent FISA application against Carter Page was TOTAL fraud

        No – it was totally kosher – Carter Page was definitely a Kremlin spy, and deserved to be investigated. Why do you get your knickers in a knot over the systems that have been developed to protect you from foreign attack? Very odd indeed.

      • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 3:09 pm #

        Good posts, abbybwood. You’ve already made several hits on my radar. Good stuff! Keep it up!

    • Majella February 15, 2020 at 3:45 pm #

      “ Now Barr is criticizing Trump for meddling in investigations “making it impossible to do his job”

      Translate that to “his incessant tweeting is blowing my cover”

  29. Pucker February 14, 2020 at 7:30 pm #

    It seems that the coronavirus may be unique in that the “recovered” patient does not develop antibodies and thereby does not become immune. If the subject gets hit a second time, it’s much more dangerous. This makes it similar to the Spanish Flu. There is speculation that the images of people collapsing on the street are people who have been hit with it a second time and experience heart failure and suddenly collapse. Good Lord!


    • Pucker February 14, 2020 at 8:31 pm #

      Reverend Jim Jones’ “People’s Temple” was an American Com…munist Doomsday Cult. Jones had decided that if he couldn’t have his Com…munist inter-racial Utopia in the Jungle of Guyana that his followers would commit “Revolutionary Suicide”. Crazy….

      • Cargill February 15, 2020 at 6:37 am #

        Pucker – you’re delirious … there was nothing “communist” about Jim Jones and the Kool Aid – there is NEVER anything “communist” about a cult where there is a big man up front Surely you really know that.

        • BackRowHeckler February 15, 2020 at 4:16 pm #

          Stalin and Mao were Big Men Out Front. And Jim Jones did indeed identify as a Marxist, Comrade.

  30. KesaAnna February 14, 2020 at 8:26 pm #

    ” Unfortunately, the list is long, very long. ”

    Compared to ?

    Relative to ?

    I didn’t pull that number out of the fucking air.

    I have seen the fucking telephone book – size study.

    Yes, I’m getting fucking pissed.

    if you think I’ve been unkind , you don’t know shit.

    I’ve bent over backwards.

    • BackRowHeckler February 15, 2020 at 4:20 pm #

      Kesa Anna, I have no quarrel with you.

      Nor with Akfomo.

      Both of you are crazy interesting. Both with distinct perspectives.

      This is the Wild West don’t you know?


  31. KesaAnna February 14, 2020 at 8:30 pm #

    ” You now understand the sick twisted mentality and persons you are dealing with. This is the culture the Vatican produces, completely incapable of self-scrutiny and criticism. ”

    I recognize a fucking threat when I hear it you son of a bitch.

    • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 8:38 pm #

      I recognize a Vatican shill and a degenerate when I see one.

      • KesaAnna February 14, 2020 at 8:41 pm #

        says the degenerate who threatens me .

        • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 8:49 pm #

          What was the threat? Reality?

          • KesaAnna February 14, 2020 at 9:01 pm #

            GreenAlba and I had a little discussion about this.

            ” Sick , twisted ”

            is not a smoke filled coffee house abstraction.

            The intent behind it is lethal.

            And you don’t even know me.

            And I kinda doubt that you don’t already know that .

            Unless you’re a fucking fruit loop.

            I gotta admit though , one minute there’s nothing you won’t do for Israel ?

            But then the next minute you’re the Americans best friend ?

            And everything from Asbestos to the price of cookies is a Vatican plot ?

            Or have I misunderstood something ?

          • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 9:18 pm #

            Yeah, I don’t care for faggotry. But unlike Jan, I’m a Libertarian, so what faggotry you do in private is your private business, as long as you leave kids out of it.

            What I do care about is cultural and political degeneracy. “America is a shining city upon a hill whose beacon light guides freedom-loving people everywhere.” The Hebrew TaNaKh the Enlightenment and Israel is the source of that shining light. If you Vatican commie worms don’t and can’t understand that, you are unworthy of holding US citizenship. How’s that for a threat?

  32. KesaAnna February 14, 2020 at 8:39 pm #

    On second thought , thanks Janos for admitting that the church had / has actually a homosexual problem.

    That’s NOT a smear or criticism I care to avoid.

    Why should I ?

    Take your National Socialists for example ;

    True enough , AFTER 1934 , if the survival rate for Jews in the camps was one in a thousand , the survival rate for homosexuals was near – absolute zero.

    That is , AFTER you got into power and didn’t need the fags anymore.

    I remember 1925.

    There were lots of fags in the NSDAP when you were nobody.

    You didn’t mind fags when you needed every man , or fairey , you could get to battle the Reds in the streets of Munich and Berlin.

    We can talk about all of that all you want.

  33. KesaAnna February 14, 2020 at 9:25 pm #

    ” How’s that for a threat? ”

    in other words , you knew perfectly well what I meant , and that was a lie.

    • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 9:35 pm #

      The question remains. What’s the threat? Reality? You’ve yet to answer.

      You say I know nothing about you and in the same breath admit I know everything about you. Which is it?!!

  34. Pucker February 14, 2020 at 9:32 pm #

    The medical workers in the hospitals in Wuhan are running out of masks and protective suits and are severely overworked. They’re forced to wear industrial quality masks and blue plastic garbage bags. My God….

  35. DJ in RuralWNC February 14, 2020 at 9:33 pm #

    Jim you continue to articulate how fragile the whole system is. It’s like it doesn’t add up that things could be this good for this long. The Long Emergency is playing out as expected.

  36. KesaAnna February 14, 2020 at 9:35 pm #

    Let’s do talk about fucking kids.

    Your country is maybe barely the size of Virginia ?

    But you have nuclear weapons ?

    No , never mind the weapons themselves , nuclear war , and all that shit.

    The basic fact is , the poisons generated in the creation of those weapons , nobody has a real clue what the fuck to do with that shit.

    And it’s not like Russia or the U.S. , where you have millions of acres nobody even wants , where you can dump this shit ,

    ” out of sight , out of mind , ” pretend it isn’t there.

    Last I heard , Haneford is the most poisoned spot in North America , but who the fuck lives in Haneford WA anyway ?

    So how many of your own kiddies have you poisoned ?

    And for what ?

    Palestine ?

    You might as well have asked for / demanded London , or New York City !

    it makes Hitler’s idea of planting Germans on the Caspian Sea look modest and sensible to a fault.

    • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 10:04 pm #

      The idea of Israel is older than any of the languages you speak, any of lands you reside, and all the upside down satanism you follow. This is what you attack me on?! You shameless commie worm! You are an affront to all right thinking humanity.

      • CancelMyCard February 14, 2020 at 10:12 pm #

        Well, that’s being a little harsh.

        Just because he offered a different point of view, you
        had to dump on him?

        Man up, dude.

        • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 10:22 pm #

          That “different point of view” would have me extinct. I simply returned it the favour.

          • GreenAlba February 15, 2020 at 10:26 am #

            Kesa, a ‘commie’? Seriously, akmofo, you need to do something about that hysterical mental glossary of yours.

            I would hesitantly offer that you know perfectly well that Kesa doesn’t want you extinct just as she knows perfectly well that when someone uses the common, everyday idiomatic terms ‘mad’, ‘crazy’ (like crazy cat lady?), ‘idiot’, or even ‘insane’ in a lively argument about VIEWS, it has no connection whatever with a wish, aspiration or even daydream of having their interlocutor banged up in an asylum. You’re both just weaponising your victimhood and I have to say the irony is mind boggling.

            If Kesa didn’t know the above, she’d have to be more measured when referring to me as a ‘fucking reptile’ (for nothing more than saying out loud that I don’t share her ‘cosmology’ – how dare I?), since that clearly implies a sub-human, and both she and you know what can happen to people once routinely referred to as sub-human (or vermin…).

            Likewise she’d have to be more measured in the use of terms like ‘child molester’ without the slightest foundation in anything done or even said to a child. I doubt she really thinks ‘child molester’ is a ‘smoke filled coffee house abstraction’ either, but nor, either, do I think the intent behind it, far from being ‘lethal’, is anything other than a wish to gratuitously insult – but what would I know?

            The pair of you could just tone down your insults, although having read your respective diatribes separately over the last while I did rather wonder when you’d eventually get it together to bite the face off one another.

            Your fruitloop Vatican conspiracies are nuts. Vatican stooges under every bed is every bit as mad as big bad Jewish stooges under every bed. There, I’ve done it again – ‘nuts’ and ‘fruitloop’ in the same sentence and ‘mad’ in the next one, without any wish to send anyone to an asylum – not even the implication that they’re genuinely insane. Just idiom. Imagine that in this snowflakey world.

            I await insults from both sides of the special-pleading chasm. Feel free. Yawn…

          • malthuss February 15, 2020 at 10:51 am #

            except that the numbers show:

            muslims–1 billion
            catholics–1 billion
            africans–1 billion

            JEWS–10-40 million…they have huge wealth and power, vastly disproportionate to their percent of worlds population.

            World–7.5 billion, Jews, >1%. way under 1%.

          • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 2:49 pm #

            Kesa, a ‘commie’? Seriously, akmofo, you need to do something about that hysterical mental glossary of yours.

            Mrs Green, I know precisely what I speak of, and you really don’t. Per usual, you are bamboozled by MSM commie propaganda, so that the only thing you do know is their lies and ignorance.

            Please, do us both a favor before you reply and watch this interview with Joshua Philipp:


            Communism comes in all varieties and flavors and it is much more a social and cultural subversion and a satanic revolution against the Hebrew Bible, than it is an economic system.

            KesaAnna is a victim and a vector of communism. Her brain is completely parastisized by its idea pathogens. It’s better for all that we heal these weak minded souls and cure them of their idea pathogens. If that means slapping them silly with some hard truths I would not hesitate for a second, and I don’t.

          • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 2:57 pm #

            muslims–1 billion
            catholics–1 billion
            africans–1 billion


            There are 10 million actual Muslims
            There are 5 million actual Catholics
            There are 8 billion actual Africans, of which, maltass, you are one.

          • GreenAlba February 15, 2020 at 3:49 pm #

            “Per usual, you are bamboozled by MSM commie propaganda, so that the only thing you do know is their lies and ignorance.”

            Actually I have half a joint honours degree in Politics – the institution wasn’t run by the Vatican – or the MSM – and the books weren’t written by them either. Marxism, amazingly, was included in the Political Philosophy component. Shame you missed it.

            Kesa wouldn’t thank me for the slightest positive word, any more than she would if I saved her life, but from everything she’s said she strikes me as being the polar opposite of ‘commie’. Unless you define as ‘commie’ even simple adherence to a religious institution that doesn’t happen to be yours, which I don’t.

            I don’t have sound on my PC so your YouTube lecture will have to be for another time.

            Your Hebrew Bible is your concern. You are a tiny part of the world and your stories are your stories (even if some of them are copy pasted from Persian ones that your antecedents acquired while rubbing shoulders with Zoroastrians).

          • GreenAlba February 15, 2020 at 3:52 pm #

            And I’d be wary of calling other people ignorant if I didn’t know why seawater was salty and rivers and freshwater lakes weren’t, which was one of your recent fantasies.

          • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 5:29 pm #

            Mrs Green,

            Use captions. You don’t need a university degree to figure out how to activate the functionality. Neither do you need a degree to calculate amount of NaCl salt in rocks vs the oceans to figure out that something doesn’t add up. Btw, I’m still waiting for your expert calculations to show otherwise. Something tells me I’ll be waiting for ever.

            As to plagiarism by Moses, I suggest you’re again displaying your conventional commie malicious ignorance. When you show me that there was any contact between the Hebrews or Egyptians and Persians at the time of Moses I’ll entertain your malicious commie speculations, because we know that nothing original is to be found in the Hebrew Bible. Not the first ever alphabet script, not the first complete democratization of knowledge and information, not the first complete social democratization, not the first complete national literacy, not the first moral code, not the first day of rest, not the first forgivenesses of debts, not the first rejection of slavery, not the first rejection of polytheism and idol worship, not the first rejection of human sacrifices, not the first instance of overt national awareness, not the first set national borders, not the first rejection of tyranny kingship and the centralized state, not the first rejection of imperialism, not the first rejection of satanism.

          • GreenAlba February 15, 2020 at 6:00 pm #

            “Neither do you need a degree to calculate amount of NaCl salt in rocks vs the oceans to figure out that something doesn’t add up. ”

            For goodness’ sake, akmofo, just look it up. It’s not even complicated.

          • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 6:12 pm #

            I looked it up, I found nothing.
            You have the numbers, show them.
            Do you need another degree to do a simple Copy & Paste?

          • hmuller February 16, 2020 at 10:02 am #

            GA, OMG your PC actually has no sound?! I didn’t think that possible. How old is it?

          • GreenAlba February 16, 2020 at 10:45 am #


            It’s not that old. I bought it in 2014, when I started working freelance. It’s an HP ‘tower’ CPU that stands on the floor below my desk. I had to buy separate speakers that sit behind the monitor. About two years ago, they stopped working. It didn’t matter enough to me to replace them and I wouldn’t know how to check them other than to check that everything is plugged in properly, which I did about a dozen times. It doesn’t bother me enough not to have sound. If I needed to check video clips for work, I have a laptop. Since I’ve pretty much stopped doing the freelance work, since late last year (and ‘my’ local office has succumbed to the financial whims of ‘our’ US overlords!), I’ll eventually just use the laptop anyway, so I’ll be aurally blessed again. If something looks worth listening to, that I’ve seen on here, I just send myself the link by email and listen to it on something else, some time… High tech I am not.

            Nice to speak to you without it being an argument, though, hm. Hope you are well. 🙂

          • GreenAlba February 16, 2020 at 11:00 am #


            Here is a little collection of unpretentious people answering your question unpretentiously. That’s because Quora is the first thing that came up. Tough – I’m not doing your homework for you. A few of the people answering seem to be scientists/mathematicians.


            One even gives some figures, but it’s not really the figures that count in the basic answer to why rivers and freshwater lakes aren’t salty, like the sea (or saltwater lakes, like the Dead Sea, which has no outlet). What amazes me is that anyone would need to look it up, since it’s kind of obvious.

          • akmofo February 16, 2020 at 1:45 pm #

            It was OBVIOUS that the stars revolved round the earth, and then the OPPOSITE became OBVIOUS.

            You say the link you provide is “unpretentious“ — what it is, is a sad joke for kindergarden kids. It recycles the same nonsense you already verbalized earlier. You might as well post a conversation from a medieval catholic monastery recycling Vatican dogma and talking points of Aristotelian cosmology. It’s an echo chamber of recycled conventional nonsense.

            I asked you for scientific calculations and scientific conclusions that support your assertions based on those calculations — you have none because there are none. BUT you say: “IT IS OBVIOUS that this Sodium Chloride salt is terrestrial because what else could it be?“ “IT IS OBVIOUS that our hydrocarbon deposits are terrestrial because where else could they be from?” “They are fossilized dinosaurs and vegetation from millions of years ago, you conspiracy goofball.” And I say to you, yeah sure, never mind that primitive gold jewellery was found multiple times in coal veins of various mines around the world.

            One would hope that such startling revelations would spark your curiosity. But no, of-course not! The only thing that sparks your interest is the latest commie propaganda slop on the BBC. “No to any HERESY !!!” No watching movie documentaries I provided, no to watching video interviews I provided, no to reading Velikovsky’s books, etc. And why not? “Because my fscking computer doesn’t work”. You’d be more honest saying “Because it is completely outrageous nonsense compared to the conventional Vatican propaganda matrix of lies and deceptions that I’m used to.” When I tell you that you are dominated by complete informational and political control, you then claim no such thing exist. When I try to show you over and over again that it is staring you in your face EVERYWHERE, you refuse to look and inquire. You are so propagandized by Vatican propaganda, you’re so far gone inside their shit hole of lies, that signals from the outside simply can’t reach you.

          • GreenAlba February 16, 2020 at 3:04 pm #

            If you say so, akmofo…

          • akmofo February 16, 2020 at 4:13 pm #

            I provided you links a series of lectures by David Rohl,
            did you watch any of them? That was weeks ago.

            I provided you links to a series documentaries by Tim Mahoney titled Patterns of Evidence, did you watch any of them? That was weeks ago.

            I provided you links to Velikovsky’s books in digital formats including PDFs, did you look at any part of them? That was months ago.

            I provided you links to Electric Universe videos, did you look at any of them yet? That was months ago.

            My guess is that the answer is NO to all of the above. My other guess is that you instead spent long hours and days watching listening reading the conventional slop that is served to you on the MSM propaganda outlets. Tell me I’m wrong.

            Just on this week’s blog post, I showed you how every key player running the show is directly connected to the Vatican and its institutions. And EVERYONE of them is a commie Vatican subversive and double agent covering up for other commie Vatican subversives. The conspiracy is in your face as clear as can be. BUT as usual with you, it’s all heretical nonsense — chuckles for the “non-crazy people”.

            You pride yourself on your commie ignorance. And this pride is justified because of what exactly? Because you have a super instinct that is cognizant of all? Because you can tell a lie from the truth? Because you are so damn versed in all there is to know? No, it’s because you are told what you know and accept it with hedonism and legs spread. That’s how far gone you are.

            You are so beaten down emotionally/psychologically that you simply don’t care. You don’t care what the truth is. It doesn’t matter to you. You can’t even think or remember why it would matter to you. You just accept it all, whatever it is. Whatever slop they serve is what you will eat. You don’t have an inkling of strength to resist. That’s how far gone you are.

          • GreenAlba February 16, 2020 at 4:32 pm #

            ” Tell me I’m wrong.”

            Yes. You are wrong.

            And tiresome.

          • akmofo February 16, 2020 at 4:49 pm #

            What isn’t tiresome for you, Mrs Green?
            For what in your life do you have real energy for?
            Where is the joy of life that you were given the breath of life to enjoy?
            Do you remember ever having this joy of life?
            You can’t understand who took it and how it disappeared, but I do. I do!

          • akmofo February 16, 2020 at 5:26 pm #

            Yes. You are wrong.

            No, I’m not. You would have provided me feedback as to what you agreed with or disagreed with. You did no such thing, ever. Because you lie. Same as you lied about knowing of scientific proofs to the salt in the oceans when I know that none exist.

  37. KesaAnna February 14, 2020 at 9:41 pm #

    ” you are unworthy of holding US citizenship. ”

    I don’t have it , and don’t want it .

    unworthy of that bloody empire ?

    That’s a fucking hoot.

    Anyway , I suppose you would step up to the plate , though , and play unpaid maid to my elderly American parents then ?

    ‘ cause you’re so fucking patriotic ?

    • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 10:35 pm #

      Hurray, another commie scheme to force others to do what should be your duty. Now stop lying, you have no parents, like you have no country, you parasite. The only thing you cherish is yourself and yourself only.

      • elysianfield February 15, 2020 at 12:22 am #

        Sweet Jesus, Mofo, can we have decorum, please? Your rhetoric is borderline violent…. A little humanity? Can you display some of the warmth and forgiveness that the Sons of Israel are universally known to feely offer?

        Kesa is Black, not Palestinian….

        • elysianfield February 15, 2020 at 12:23 am #

          Freely offer, of course.

        • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 12:40 am #

          You spoil them, Ely, and these are the rotten apples we have. How long should we put up with these commie worms? How long do we keep civil as they eat at everything we build?

          You say you’re a cop, Ely. I wouldn’t leave you in charge of a kindergarden.

          • elysianfield February 15, 2020 at 1:41 am #

            Well, I was a cop…50 years ago. If offered a posting at a Kindergarten, I would have to politely refuse. Goddamned snot-nosed little vectors will be the death of all of us.

          • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 8:05 pm #

            I wasn’t around 50 years ago, but from what I understand youz were more disciplined back then. You let yourself go, old man.

            As to snot-nosed little commie pigs, you simply punch them in the nose so they lower their heads and walk the other way when they see you next.

  38. trypillian February 14, 2020 at 9:42 pm #

    No one is talking about this either; the virus is not really a virus at all; rather a weaponized bacteria. The warfare grade bug was developed jointly by Canadian and US labs. Chinese workers at the doctorate level at the Canadian lab visited the Wuhan facility

    • trypillian February 14, 2020 at 10:10 pm #

      Oops,my keyboard slipped. The Chinese couple, a married team, were on a educational exchange in good faith. They subverted the visit by donating the nasty bacteria to their Chinese brethren. The bugs escaped no doubt because of mishandling the drop. This explains why the Chinese government is acting like it has the plaque on its hands – because it actually has the plaque on its hands. I should mention that Wuhan has a newly minted biological warfare research facility. It’s no coincidence that the fake virus commenced from there.

      Once the virus cover story is exposed for the lie it is and the public understands that black death is alive and well and coming to a neighbourhood near you – they will storm the Bastille.

      • capt spaulding February 15, 2020 at 8:51 am #

        I have heard that the virus was weaponized in the same buildings where they faked the lunar landing photos.

        • BackRowHeckler February 15, 2020 at 4:12 pm #

          Ok Captain, now that was good.

        • James Kuehl February 15, 2020 at 8:10 pm #

          The virus was then unleashed upon us from the grassy knoll in Dealey Plaza in Dallas by the person who sneaked past the guards at the Metropolitan Correctional Center and strangled Jeffrey Epstein.

    • GreenAlba February 15, 2020 at 10:59 am #

      “No one is talking about this either; the virus is not really a virus at all; rather a weaponized bacteria. ”

      So, when the Chinese gave the genetic sequence of the virus to the world, once they’d mapped it, did they expect that the world wouldn’t notice it was a bacterium, even when they had cases in their own countries?

      If you think it’s a bacterium, feel free to have a go with antibiotics if you get it. Streptomycin and gentomicin are routinely used on human plague victims.


      All made up, though, I imagine.

  39. wwg1wga February 14, 2020 at 11:38 pm #

    Behold, as the earth “overpopulation” committee attempts to take a Coronavirus victory lap.

  40. tucsonspur February 15, 2020 at 4:11 am #

    The question now is, how many people will get away with how much? We know that the answer is at least one, and a fair amount of lying.

    Yeah, the Dems nailed Carter Page, Michael Flynn(case under review), George Papadopoulos, and 7 to 9 Roger (SWAT) Stone. And of course they are still trying to nail Trump. There’s talk now about impeaching Barr. Who will we nail?

    Listen to Tom Fitton throughout:


    Then see the jubilant Lisa Page say, “Cheers, Andy”:


    Makes you wonder, doesn’t it?

    There’s an election coming up and I wonder what Barr and others are thinking. Indictments in April would seem to help the president get a second term, but it isn’t the Dem candidates being indicted, and maybe people are just worn down and fed up with all of this crap and want to boot Trump out.

    Watch out for Bloomberg-Klobuchar.

  41. Kallocain February 15, 2020 at 5:24 am #

    Meanwhile here in China, the final solution to the virus problem will be to tell people to go back to work. This has already been communicated by the man in charge.

    China can’t afford to shutter the country for much longer and the death rate is only 2%, mostly elderly and those in bad health. It is simply cheaper to sacrifice these and get on with the economy. China has plenty of people.

    Today Shanghai is a ghost town. I took the car 15 minutes to the nearest McDonalds to get a real weekend meal and the streets were empty. A few electric bikes was all I saw. The local Carrefour was half empty and showing clear signs of empty shelves, a sign that people are hoarding.

    The Western manufacturing company I work for is getting desperate to restart production and wants to send us to within a few miles of one of the most locked down cities in China. Problem is that if you test positive for fever they take to to the camp for testing. After a few days in this camp you will definitely have contracted something since anyone with a fever is removed by force to the camp. Corona, TB, cold, whatever, you are thrown into the camp with extremely limited facilities.

    You must understand that the “makeshift hospitals” are not there to give you any medical care but to try to limit the contagion.

    Temperature tests are carried out everywhere, when you enter a shop, a workplace or when you enter the gate to your residence.

    Westerners do not have options, they will tell your consulate but that’s about it. You do not have the right to choose a private institution of your own, everyone must go to the state appointed “fever clinic”.

    Another thing worth noting is that from today they have increased blocking of the VPN’s, making communication difficult.

    Needless to say I have told my managers that I will not depart on such an adventure but will rather cancel my contract. There are still direct flight from here to my home country. Most other countries have blocked access to people from China.

    Whatever they say this will absolutely fuck the world economy up beyond recognition. Small enterprises like restaurants are going belly up and that means lower occupancy rates in commercial real estate. Large ticket items are being postponed. Anyone who can will stay home for as long as possible. Tourism will take big hit.

    The Surgeon General has said that hopefully the spread will peak this month and then level off but this will go on for a long time. I think it will take until late spring or early summer before the general public begins to understand the hit the world is taking.

    If H.R. 8 did not pass the senate then now is the time to stock up on AR-15’s the Deep State doesn’t know about, ammo and buy a remote homestead in Idaho…

    • Pucker February 15, 2020 at 6:28 am #

      Don’t all woman naturally get an elevated body temperature a couple of days before ovulation?

      • Kallocain February 15, 2020 at 7:10 am #

        The limit seems to usually be 37.3 C in the armpit. Most security folks measure with a gun type thermometer to your forehead. These seems to be calibrated to compensate for the difference. Inside of the wrist is also a popular place to measure.

        I guess you have to accept some collateral losses if you woman ovulates. Or maybe this is a good reason to keep her locked up while you spray her yourself to guarantee clean blood lines in the medieval clan system we’re moving towards.

        • Pucker February 15, 2020 at 7:31 am #

          “…keep her locked up….”

      • elysianfield February 15, 2020 at 11:50 am #

        “Don’t all woman naturally get an elevated body temperature a couple of days before ovulation?”

        Uhh, not around you.

        I’m sorry, I didn’t mean it, but cannot help myself…when presented with a softball, I am obligated to swing for the fence.

    • Pucker February 15, 2020 at 6:36 am #

      I’m not sure that the story about the 2% fatality rate is true? It seems that for the first round of infections the fatality rate may be 2%. But I read that this coronavirus may be like the Spanish Flu in that patients who “recover” do not develop antibodies and therefore they can be reinfected? I want to see the fatality rate for people who are reinfected a second and third time. They think that the images of the people collapsing on the street in China are people who have been reinfected. It seems that the body’s response to reinfection attacks the heart and may cause sudden heart seizure? Good Lord!

    • Vinnie the Vintner February 15, 2020 at 7:33 am #

      Thanks for sharing, Kallocain. We are a mile down a dirt road that ends at my driveway with the closest neighbor almost a mile away. Four year old fruit trees should produce a few apples this year. I called a neighbor last night to see if he has any old barns that may have a basement to use as a root cellar. He does. I have drawn mine up, but the rain won’t let me get my tractor to the hillside I have in mind. The pond is stocked and we have an active spring for fresh water. Plenty of wildlife. Headed out today to convert the garden to raised beds. Not selling any more firewood, either. Should have enough for two winters if I don’t cut anymore. Idaho is a bit cold for me. Going to buy more seeds today, too. Another neighbor said organic seeds online are sold out on some sites.

      We aren’t overzealous hoarders or preppers, simply prudent realists.

      Be safe and be grave, Kallocain. I hope you get to that cabin soon.


      • Vinnie the Vintner February 15, 2020 at 7:34 am #

        Be Brave.

        Damn spell check.

    • Pucker February 15, 2020 at 8:08 am #

      Fu Gong:

      Scenario A: How much would you have to pay a bloke to do this job?

      Scenario B: How much would you have to pay a bloke to do this job under conditions in which he has to risk exposure to a virus that may threaten his life and health of himself and/ or his family?

    • malthuss February 15, 2020 at 10:53 am #

      go back to work, slaves.

  42. Pucker February 15, 2020 at 6:11 am #

    I’m now finishing up my 2 week self quarantine in a cheap hotel in the US. I ate a huge Italian submarine sandwich on the bed while watching Arnold Schwarzenegger in the movie “Total Recall” yesterday afternoon while overhearing the bloke in the adjacent hotel room fuck his girlfriend loudly. Occasionally, I could hear him slap the Hell-out-of-her and then she’d laugh.

    I wonder why the Americans like Arnold Schwarzenegger? It’s obviously not for his acting ability.

    • malthuss February 15, 2020 at 10:42 am #

      Arnold…horatio alger 2….Arnie was a male escort, shall we say.
      Involved in a stolen car ring.

      former short order cook and he climbed to the [so called] top of the heap.

  43. Pucker February 15, 2020 at 6:21 am #

    Stalin apparently was a Big Bolshevik and a Family Man. I know what a Family Man is. What-the-Hell is a Bolshevik? The MSM says that Bernie Sanders a a big Bolshevik, like Stalin. Bernie is from Vermont where they’re all a bunch of Fuck’n Hippies who smoke Weed and who eat Ben & Jerry’s ice cream. Stalin may have been a big Pot Head? The MSM reports that when he was young, Bernie Sanders was enamored with the Soviet Union and went on his honey moon to the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union sucked.

    Wasn’t there a Hall & Oates song in the 1980’s called “Family Man”? There was also that Adam Ant song called “Desperate But Not Serious”.

    Stalin: The Court of the Red Tsar
    Simon Sebag Montefiore

  44. BackRowHeckler February 15, 2020 at 8:28 am #

    Rip, if you’re looking in…

    That tractor fuel you were going to Simsbury Airport to get, J20.

    I think it’s available at Tractor Supply, there’s one a little south of you.

    It comes in 5 gallon buckets stuff isn’t cheap tho.


    • stelmosfire February 15, 2020 at 9:39 am #

      Hey Marlin. J20? That’s hydraulic fluid. I buy 100 LL av gas at the airport. 100 octane low lead. $5.49 a gallon. Tractor Supply sells VP racing gas in one gallon cans for 20 bucks a gallon. OUCH! I don’t run the low lead in anything with a catalytic converter but great in your old MC and small stuff. E10 gas is horrible. -36 in Maine this AM +90 in Florida. 126 degree spread just on the east coast. Be careful out there, “Charlie is in the Wire!”

      • beantownbill. February 15, 2020 at 11:23 am #

        RT, “only about 80F here on sanibel Island, FL. It does my soul good to get out of the cold in Massachusetts for a few weeks. Heading to Orlando tomorrow for another week. Please do what you can to raise up the temperature so I don’t have to freeze my ass off when I get back to Mass. You, too, Marlin. Between the two of you, maybe you can get the temps up to the ‘30’s?

        • BackRowHeckler February 15, 2020 at 2:47 pm #

          Oh, I envy you Bill.

          8° F this morning, what I’d give to feel the warm sun on the back of my neck right now.

          RIP, my mistake on that. I did see that 100 octane low lead fuel, got it mixed up with J20, on same shelf.

          Well, too cold to do anything outdoors today, think I’ll watch ‘Killer Klowns from Outer Space’ on Comet tv.

          As you were.


    • malthuss February 15, 2020 at 11:05 am #

      unz.com, comment

      Pepe the Frog says: •
      February 15, 2020 at 5:44 am GMT •

      Long ago, I had family across the river in Gloucester County. When Clinton closed the Navy Yard in Philly in ’95, everyone had to scatter across the country chasing jobs.

      Grandma stayed in Gloucester until she died, in what had once been a very nice working-class Catholic neighborhood with brownstone apartments and skinny little two-story houses with big Hungarian, Italian, and Irish families. Then as the executor of the will was trying to get the house sold, Puerto Rican crackheads came down from Camden, broke into it and looted everything, including stealing all the copper plumbing, then burned it to the ground. They smashed and burned everything they couldn’t take with them, just for spite.

      The neighborhood had been going downhill for years due to die-versity and vibrancy anyway. She lived across the street from a playground where I and my cousins would play, long ago. Now there’s spray-paint squiggle graffiti everywhere, and Puerto Rican gangbangers stand beside the rusted old merry-go-round and sell heroin and cocaine.

      I have no words to express the depths of my hatred.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 15, 2020 at 2:22 pm #

        Such hatred very healthy say wonhunghigh.

  45. newworld February 15, 2020 at 8:36 am #

    I get most of my Corona – Chan news from Zerohedge then steeply discount its accuracy. That said, if the headline that China is disintergrating is remotely close to accurate then maybe people should have listened to people like the blog host.

    Imagine this country under such stress and the “Woke” commissars / Deep State SES types unleashed on us Deplorables.

    Now that is why I have an AR-15.

    • beantownbill. February 15, 2020 at 11:36 am #

      Let’s face it – if your scenario comes to pass, you (and me) will die. The only satisfaction you’ll get is offing a few of them when they come to kill you. You will experience the satisfaction for a few minutes and then will be gone.

  46. Pucker February 15, 2020 at 8:51 am #

    Foreseeable scenario: Because of the draconian quarantine measures in China, a bloke could go to work in the morning. At some point during the day at one of the numerous checkpoints he has his temperature taken and it is a bit high for whatever reason. Then he disappears into quarantine and his family can’t find him.

    • Bill7 February 15, 2020 at 9:43 am #

      Justice Dept. drops investigation of former FBI deputy Andrew McCabe


      Surprise, surprise. No one of significance is going to be indicted, let alone jailed; not even a little fish like McCabe.


      • Pucker February 15, 2020 at 10:03 am #

        According to this book, William Barr used to work for the C…IA. Barr’s dad was the head of the Dalton prep school in Manhattan. Jeffrey Epstein started out teaching Maths at the Dalton School. Barr’s dad got Epstein a job with a hedge fund.

        Dylan Howard and 2 more
        Epstein: Dead Men Tell No Tales

        • Bill7 February 15, 2020 at 10:11 am #

          I hear you, Pucker: Barr’s job is to cover sh!t up, not to get to the bottom of it. Some people are unwilling to see what’s staring them
          in the face, though.


          • Pucker February 15, 2020 at 11:24 am #

            From this book, I got the impression that the Elite are all inter-related, even Trump.

            Trump’s Mar El Lago resort in Palm Beach, Florida is located next to Jeffrey Epstein’s Palm Beach “Sugar Shack”. Trump knew Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, but there’s no evidence that Trump was having sex with underaged girls. Ghislaine Maxwell recruited Virginia Roberts from Trump’s Mar El Lago resort. She was a favorite of Epstein and Prince Andrew. Ghislaine Maxwell apparently works for Mo…sad.

            Dylan Howard and 2 more
            Epstein: Dead Men Tell No Tales

        • malthuss February 15, 2020 at 10:44 am #


          epp didnt make his money on wall street, or if he did it was the hillary way [insider trades].

    • Kallocain February 15, 2020 at 10:01 pm #

      Pucker – it’s not foreseeable, it’s happening already. Yesterday my driver was at 37.8 and was told not to exit the car while we unloaded the groceries. then he had a second reading which was ok before exiting (he wore a thick winter jacket while driving so got hot) and was allowed to leave.

      Chinese blogs are full of reports of people just being grabbed by security guards and thrown into the “fever clinics”. And my company wants me to go to a Tier 3 city to work (read up on the Chinese tier system, it’s basically an exponential difference between the levels).

      And they can’t really explain how they will provide medial support. And it seems that if I go my insurance will be void since our state department (I’m European) has advised caution against that particular province.

      At the very least I would expect a detachment of Marines led by Col Braddock to standby with a helicopter for evacuation.

  47. volodya February 15, 2020 at 11:41 am #

    It’s true, a lot of things in our time have appearances that don’t sinc with reality. But it’s not only appearances that don’t sinc, it’s appearances that DO sinc with reality. And this is a problem. 

    So, yeah, people put up facades to fool the passerby, but then the builders of the front come to accept the false display as the reality it’s meant to conceal. Deception is one thing, consecrated by time, blessed by usage and honored in practice, but self-deception is quite something else.  

    How much time have we spent listening to self-congratulating elites telling us that this is the grandest time in history to be alive. And how many of us get suckered, marveling at glittering glass and steel assemblies thrusting at the sky, agog and bedazzled by Blade Runner-ish visual displays on those buildings proclaiming the triumph of commerce and modern technology. How many people spend more time attending to hand-held simulations than to the actual physical world they live in? 

    As our host sez, these are veneers, outward representations of a matrix of falsehood. We live by a willing suspension of disbelief, accepting lies, big and small, that permeate day-to-day living, some of it background noise like the statistical balderdash from government agencies, or the numerical and narrative propaganda from Wall Street. 

    In our daily rituals we accept as true what past generations would consider insane, and it isn’t just past generations, it’s also people living outside bubbles of stark lunacy, people that still have some grasp of the real. “Insane” applies to many things, from modern-day international commercial and trade arrangements to stock market valuations, to what is considered legal in the world of Wall Street machinations. Is there such a thing as a free lunch? Some of us think so as shown by actions of the Fed. 

    But there is no such thing, most of us know this. The lowliest lunch-meat sandwich has to come from somewhere, you either raise and butcher the animals yourself and incur the expense and effort of doing so, or you pay someone else to do it. This is reality that no Fed abracadabra can change, but Fed abracadabra is in effect what they tell us to believe, and if you are – cough – educated, you adopt a superior pose and ostentatiously accept what they present as “counter intuitive”, that is, craziness only for the intellectually elevated – or experts.

    What about appearances that DO sinc with reality? The college-educated wave away such inconveniences as irrelevant. The interior of the country is economically ruined? So what, winners and losers are what happens in a meritocracy. Thousands of bleach-bitted emails? Eye-rolls, deep sighs. Frisky goings-on in widely disparate locales? Meh. Brexit? Morons.

    Did you get a ninja loan? Did your tower of mortgage debt keep you awake? Fed officialdom said to not fret because it was offset by still higher property values. Remember?

    And this is where reality and delusion collide. Until it is determined in an actual sale, a property value is an opinion, nothing more, something that can vanish, like smoke. But mortgage debt is a hard, legal fact, evidenced by signed documents and enforceable in court. And it doesn’t just go away. Ask those millions of people that lost their houses to foreclosure.

    • volodya February 15, 2020 at 11:52 am #

      sinc should be sync

      • SoftStarLight February 15, 2020 at 2:38 pm #

        That’s the problem with Western Civilization. Far too much of a focus solely on the material. The triumph of the commodification of all things, even immaterial things like experiences. And so we have the rule and tyranny of greed. The self before all others. These aging and failing paradigms need to be dispensed with. Along with the current Elites and Globalists.

        • volodya February 16, 2020 at 4:15 pm #

          About the material: Someone said that science has nothing to say about values. For instance, it comes out of Judaism that a human life is irreplaceable and invaluable. That’s something that science or math can’t tell us. And out of that notion comes a whole lot of others, for instance that justice ought to be impartial and apply equally to people regardless of social station. Does science tell us anything about human rights? It can’t, it’s not about that. And it makes you wonder about other stuff, like the “conflict” between science and religion. They’re about different realms, so how can there be “conflict”. Seems to me that this is all about raw power and who gets to call the shots, nothing more.

          Elites discredit themselves day-in and day-out. They spout stuff that not even a ten year old would accept and in the end they will reap what they sow. As for globalists, they foisted nonsensical schemes for self-enrichment that will end up doing the opposite. Both elite and globalist are headed for history’s dumpster. Bye-bye.

      • EvelynV February 16, 2020 at 2:13 pm #

        Good catch, was about to point out the same thing.

    • hmuller February 15, 2020 at 8:49 pm #

      Volodya, your comments made me think about the US stock market, pumped up on the drug of easy money, seemingly oblivious to bad news. Will the corona virus be the pin which bursts all bubbles?

      Was this the plan all along? Or is this the globalists’ desperate attempt to regain control thru martial law and extreme measures? One thing I’m sure about. The MSM won’t tell us the truth about any of this.

      • volodya February 16, 2020 at 4:03 pm #

        H, good questions.

        As to the first, the c-virus could be the “pin” that bursts all sorts of bubbles, or the “black swan”, that causes the unwind of a lot of unworkable schemes, financial markets high on that list, the bright side being the potential of arrangements that are actually workable taking their place. No guarantees though because as the Archdruid likes to say, the opposite of one bad idea is frequently another bad idea. But with change there’s hope.

        As to the second, for all the moaning about Trump’s ascendance signalling the end of Democracy and the Constitution and the Rule of Law, I would submit that those making the accusations are those most guilty of threatening an end to those very things.

        I’m seeing more authoritarian tendencies coming from the purported “Left”. Having said that, political labels are just distractionary devices for those working behind the curtains. They’ll act to protect their own interests, and they’ll make the plea of necessity. They might see the c-virus as a divinely-sent opportunity to reset the clocks. 

        And you’re right, if we’re in a post-truth era, the msm is leading the way. 

        I would suggest that the political strategy that wins is the one that’s least full of shit. To that end I would implore the more full of shit of the two main parties (the Democrats for now) to stop talking shit. That is, get fucking real and stop insulting people’s intelligence. Trump and his followers White Nationalists? Blow me. White Supremacists? Fuck right off. 

        • hmuller February 16, 2020 at 8:34 pm #

          Some Democrats have called for impeaching Trump again because they found some new tidbit of dirt. Are these people fixated, hypnotized, clinically insane?

  48. beantownbill. February 15, 2020 at 11:53 am #

    There’s 2 interesting articles in the Jan/Feb 2020 issue of the Skeptical Inquirer magazine, one on climate change tribalism, and the other asks if America is a Sheeple factory. You can buy the issue on the newsstand, or possibly read them on-line.

    Before you do, google the robbers cave experiment. It’s famous and worthwhile learning about. You can see how the discussions here mirror it.

    • SoftStarLight February 15, 2020 at 2:26 pm #

      Oh gotchya. So tribalism is ok to be a thing? I guess its safe to talk about in the context of the pleonasm: climate change.

      • beantownbill. February 15, 2020 at 2:44 pm #

        Read the articles and/or google the robbers cave experiment as I suggested. Your missing the point entirely.

  49. Pucker February 15, 2020 at 11:59 am #

    I walked past the big US Army recruitment office in White Plains, New York the other day. One of the big recruitment posters on the front of the building was of a smiling white blonde girl in Army desert camouflage fatigues and an desert camouflage colored cap in boot camp combat training. As I walked past, I muttered to myself: “Oh yeah…Hubba Hubba….”


    • SoftStarLight February 15, 2020 at 2:13 pm #

      Wow that’s no big surprise lol, some things never change. But you know, you can fold towels really good and be a good shot too.

  50. elysianfield February 15, 2020 at 12:08 pm #

    Well, ladies and germs;

    The BBC, this AM, reports a disturbing issue regarding sex robots with artificial intelligence. While spendy, upwards of ten grand, they can converse with their significant carbon unit, and even participate in rape scenarios, fighting off the amorous advances of the sugar daddy. For this kind of money you can have a partner every bit as stunning as our first lady…that will actually not be offended to be seen in the same room as you!

    They make some of the sex robots the size of children, and are rumored* to be prototyping one to look and act like a Palestinian…an export model, I would expect…and comes complete with it’s own specially prepared sheet with a hole in it, so that the thrifty purchaser will not have to destroy one of his high count cotton sheets!



    • beantownbill. February 15, 2020 at 2:19 pm #

      Just think! You could have a Marilyn- type model with a 3rd breast anywhere, speak 30 languages, write Shakespeare-level poetry, cook, clean, never talk back and agree with everything you say. What’s not to love?

      • elysianfield February 15, 2020 at 6:16 pm #

        What’s not to love? Nothing!

        There may, however be a moral hazard to contend with.

      • hmuller February 15, 2020 at 8:56 pm #

        You want a sex partner with a third breast? Nasty! Oh beantownbill, we thought we knew you.

        • beantownbill. February 15, 2020 at 10:23 pm #

          Lol! I was just being silly.

  51. Janos Skorenzy February 15, 2020 at 1:15 pm #

    Trump is escalating the war against the rebels.

    National Review:

    The Trump administration is sending officers from a special operations unit of the Border Patrol to assist in raids by Immigration Customs and Enforcement in so-called sanctuary cities.
    The officers from BORTAC, the Border Patrol’s version of a SWAT unit, will deploy to New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Los Angeles and various other cities whose local governments forbid law enforcement from working with federal immigration officials, the New York Times reported on Friday. Customs and Border Protection spokesman Lawrence Payne confirmed the initiative.
    BORTAC officers will be deployed “in order to enhance the integrity of the immigration system, protect public safety, and strengthen our national security,” Payne said.
    “As we have noted for years, in jurisdictions where we are not allowed to assume custody of aliens from jails, our officers are forced to make at-large arrests of criminal aliens who have been released into communities,” ICE acting director Matthew T. Albence said in a statement. “When sanctuary cities release these criminals back to the street, it increases the occurrence of preventable crimes, and more importantly, preventable victims.”
    BORTAC usually operates in hot, rugged areas along the U.S.-Mexico border and specializes in capturing criminals and cracking down on smuggling operations. While embedded with ICE in sanctuary cities, BORTAC officers will engage in more run-of-the-mill arrests.
    The news comes after Attorney General William Barr announced Monday that the Justice Department would begin a “significant escalation” against sanctuary cities. Barr said the department would move to file lawsuits against sanctuary cities and locales that actively impede federal immigration enforcement.

    JS: “Special ops”. One is reminded of how the Celts brought in elite fighting men from beyond the Alps to defeat the Romans in Italy. But they too fell beneath the Roman sword. It will take a greater Man than Trump to put down the Communists and get America back on track. Much greater. One not compromised by allegiance to one faction of the Global Slave Masters.

    • SoftStarLight February 15, 2020 at 1:49 pm #

      Yes, and one who is willing to do whatever it takes to get the job done. One easy way to remedy the problem is to charge anyone who hires illegals for any type of work, lawyers and public officials who help the illegals, etc., etc., with treason. After all, they are aiding and abetting foreigners who have openly and willingly defied our laws and sovereignty.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 15, 2020 at 2:20 pm #

        Oh yes! And perp walk them out of their own businesses, ruin them both the socially and financially – and all that’s after they’ve served time in prison.

        In other words, why does someone get to hurt the “body” of the nation (the people and the economy). How is that not treason every bit as much as the theft of military secrets by a citizen to give to an enemy?

      • tucsonspur February 15, 2020 at 4:47 pm #

        Oh yes, yes, and yes, but you may as well try and catch the wind. Always an Achilles it seems, never an Ares.

    • Tate February 15, 2020 at 3:22 pm #

      Could 2020 be the last real election of a U.S. president? Yes, it could be unless something a drastic solution is found. Otherwise, mentally prepare yourself for the reeducation camp, either to resist or submit.

      The left can afford to bide their time. Demographics is destiny. The invaders breed like rabbits, wypipo not so much. They will attain power ‘peacefully’ then dismantle everything that protects the white hinterlands from the dusky urban hordes. Such as the electoral college. If you are guilty of ‘wrong-think’ you will be an object of serious scrutiny.

  52. Janos Skorenzy February 15, 2020 at 2:29 pm #

    Good summary of the state of Human Genetic Research anent Race.


    Scientifically things have advanced greatly with the tremendous explosion of genetic testing. But socially, things have gone backwards ever since Arthur Jensen was charged with solving the problem of low Black grades. He dutifully studied the problem and came back with his answer: Nothing can be done. It’s overwhelmingly genetic. Blacks are dummies and will remain so. The Elite then declared open warfare against all researchers, intent of ruining them and frightening all others into silence.

    Their attempts to establish their own point of view have been paltry and ridiculous. They simply have no case, and when they seem to, it’s always the result of mistakes or overt fraud. But their attempt to quash free and open inquiry have been overwhelmingly successful. Thus do things stand.

    • SoftStarLight February 15, 2020 at 3:17 pm #

      It’s interesting that we are often told that the only thing we can know is the world we see. So naturally that would you think include the clearly visible differences between the races. But on that matter we are told so many times not to believe our lying eyes. They’re so twisted.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 16, 2020 at 12:03 am #

        Good point. By their fruits, we know the Black Man, the Brown Man, the Yellow Man, and the Red Man.

  53. Pucker February 15, 2020 at 2:46 pm #

    My God!

    Guo Wengui seems to be saying that the virus is part of the ongoing power struggle between the Jiang Zemin, Zeng Qinghong Faction, and the Xi Jinping/ Wang Qishan Faction. It seems that the P4 Biolab in Wuhan was structured with the relevant PLA units hierarchically under and subordinate to the Ministry of Public Health and other relevant government departments under the control of the Jiang Zemin Faction (Foreign Ministry, Foreign Media, Private Enterprise, etc.). The general thinking is that the Police and Army units controlled by the Xi Jinping Faction would be defenseless and ineffective against a virus: A machine gun or a tank are useless against a virus. The plan is for the Foreign Ministry to grab the masks and medical supplies and money donated by the foreigners to feed the Jiang Zemin Faction who have already moved their money and families overseas. From their perspective, the more common Chinese people who die, the better. The Jiang Faction controls foreign affairs and the external media, so they seem to believe that the Jiang Faction can control the message and narrative presented to the foreigners. It’s part of a big power struggle. Sick….


    • Janos Skorenzy February 15, 2020 at 2:56 pm #

      Is not Noddens the Lord of Sleep and Abbadon that of the Abyss?

      We must find a Byss, or high point, a Tower from which we can discern the Pole Star of Truth and make it our All.

    • hmuller February 16, 2020 at 10:13 am #

      So Pucker, you’re saying a faction in China has engineered a mass die-off of their own people – the very faction that controls and benefits from the factories running smoothly has thrown a monkey wrench into the works! To believe that I’d need to be told of a very strong motive. Because it makes little sense.

      • akmofo February 16, 2020 at 11:19 am #

        It’s called Political Cover to save face. Saving Face is cardinal to Chinese culture. You know things are failing, so you create an excuse as to why.

      • Pucker February 16, 2020 at 12:35 pm #

        It’s a factional life or death power struggle. Who cares how many of the common people die or the collateral damage as long as X…i is pulled down. Either your opponent is destroyed, or you are destroyed.

  54. BackRowHeckler February 15, 2020 at 5:14 pm #

    Extinction Rebellion protesters are shutting down Fashion Week events in London. Happening now.

    Apparently they are focusing on the fashion industries contribution to ‘climate change’. Using that criteria I suppose they could launch protests against everything and anything. Pouring fake blood onto the pavement, gluing themselves to doors, stopping traffic dead etc. Just the start of 5 days of aktion, probably will shut down fashion week for good. Hey, I’m not carrying portfolio for London Fashion week; last year the big theme was dressing up men to look like women. That was their fashion innovation of 2019! What a f#kkd up city London seems to be. Stabbings continue unabated. Women have been warned that if they use mace to protect themselves from rape, and the attacker is Muslim or African, they will be charged with racism and weapons possession. You see video of London Streets and there’s not one white face. The Battle of Britain, what the hell was the point? 75 years on, look at the results.


    • GreenAlba February 15, 2020 at 5:47 pm #

      “Women have been warned that if they use mace to protect themselves from rape, and the attacker is Muslim or African, they will be charged with racism ”

      Naturally you have a reference for that, brh?

      • malthuss February 15, 2020 at 7:46 pm #


  55. Pucker February 15, 2020 at 5:35 pm #

    Bernie Sanders was once enamored with the Soviet Union.

    Have you ever wanted to just kick back and unwind with a few highballs and Russian d’oeuvres while the people are starving?

    “ Faced with unparalleled disaster in the regions where ten million people were starving, conspiracy in his Party, uncertain of the loyalty of his own entourage—and with the added strain of a troubled wife, Stalin felt beleaguered and at war. Like the others at the centre of this whirlwind, he needed to drink and unwind. Stalin sat in the middle of the table, never at the head, and Nadya sat opposite him.”

    Stalin: The Court of the Red Tsar
    Simon Sebag Montefiore

  56. snagglepuss February 15, 2020 at 6:43 pm #

    Here it is at last, via Zero Hedge ”
    Classic Hare and Tortoise ploy. Now that all all the current candidates have shown themselves to be incapable of being elected for spoken or not spoken reasons, the dynamic duo steps out of the shadows.
    Somehow I doubt this was cooked up overnight.
    What a shit show. You couldn’t write this stuff as fiction. Where are those Justice Department indictments? Someone flash the bat signal into the heavens before it’s too late. Oh me.

    • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 8:10 pm #

      Yup. I and many others saw this coming as soon as he announced he’s running.

  57. KesaAnna February 15, 2020 at 7:45 pm #

    ” Sweet Jesus, Mofo, can we have decorum, please? ”

    I disagree.

    Remember a little discussion we had awhile back on the subject of corporal punishment ?

    I endorse flogging , branding , and that sort of thing.

    Why , because I sit around fapping to thoughts of gore , vore and general sadism ?

    No. it’s because I want people TO SEE that all these abstract ideas they entertain are not abstract.

    Maybe if they saw an entire town square drenched in blood , and the line of those to be flogged stretching out for a mile , or five , they might learn something.

    When it comes to criminal justice , people have behaved like small , spoiled children in a candy store.

    I venture that this is not commonly seen , because it isn’t SEEN.

    I proposed to , I think it was Majella , one time that she get on a plane , fly to America , land , go for a walk in a GOOD NEIGHBORHOOD for one hour , then get on a plane , and go back home.

    If it were practically possible , I would bet every cent I can scrounge up , that within that one hour she met at least one convicted felon.

    Or maybe a dozen ?

    You don’t SEE that though.

    True , 99,9% of the people in American prisons are a very bad lot.

    Deserving persons . ( ” Deserving ” in the negative sense. )

    Time to cheer and brag ?

    THE reason that 99.9% of the people in American prisons are the worst of the worst is because if you actually locked up even one – third of your felons I’m pretty certain you would LOOK worse than North Korea , and despite your natural wealth would be poorer than North Korea.

    What’s actually true of a lot of police states is that , yes , at least one – third of the incarcerated are political prisoners.

    That is , real or imagined political opponents.

    That is , generally , all you have to do is stay the fuck out of politics , and you will have nothing to worry about —

    — except that politics , unfortunately , actually covers a lot of ground .

    — Well , actually , because at least one – third of the incarcerated are political prisoners , it means you can’t really lock up the 99.9% really bad apples , and I would say that happily in some other cases , they pretty much HAVE TO let little things slide.

    Police states are subject to the finite world too.

    Like , typically , in police states , nobody gives a fuck if you smoke.
    Tobacco , typically , is a state monopoly , and typically one of their biggest cash cows. And it is hardly any threat to the status qou or the ruling elite.

    People go to work drunk , and it’s no big deal. Again , typically , that’s no real threat to the state.

    People drive around drunk as a skunk. Again , that’s no real threat to the state , unless you run over and kill or maim some policemans or party officials daughter , and then, yes , you have a big fucking problem.

    I don’t know , maybe all of that looks really appalling to you ?

    Then move to the West. In the West , your ten thousand neighbors are perfectly happy to shove a microscope right up your ass.

    Welcome to freedom ! — Whatever the fuck that is ?

    Anyway , with all those political threats they have to throw in the jug , they simply can’t afford the extra expense of smokers and drunk drivers.

    Certainly worse though , not uncommonly too they turn a blind eye to real criminals who , though they would prey on you and me , never the less are smart enough not to fuck with the state , so they aren’t a threat to the state either , so , yes , these real criminals are surprisingly free to prey on you and me.

    I might argue, though , that is a similarity with the free world ?

    In the free world , real criminals — who live in country club territory — are likewise more or less free to prey on the little folk , so long as they don’t fuck with the status qou , as long as they don’t present a threat to the country club folk.

    As an added bonus , not untypically , the very little folk being preyed upon are themselves the justifiers of this !

    ” There are no criminals in country club territory ! ” ( except maybe for the rare aberration like Donald Trump or Bill Clinton ? )

    ” They are the master fucking race , don’t you know ?! ”

    I think Stalin was right to envy the Western propaganda machine.

    Anyway , I say let the guy say exactly what he thinks and feels .

    If he is right , then what’s the problem ?

    If he is wrong , then , again , what is the problem ?

    • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 8:22 pm #

      Why does EVERYTHING have to be a threat to the State? Why can’t I just punch you in the nose because you are personal threat and offence to me and mine? If it’s a personal thing between you me and mine, why involve the State?

      When will you ever learn to wean yourself off the tit of government, which only profits from our disagreements? When will you understand that the government is the biggest mafia and the biggest for-profit corporation of all?

    • K-Dog February 15, 2020 at 9:00 pm #

      “Maybe if they saw an entire town square drenched in blood , and the line of those to be flogged stretching out for a mile , or five , they might learn something.”

      Like in the movie Spartacus when Kirk Douglas gets crucified. The road is lined with crucified slaves for miles. It creeped me out.

      A question for wanting to error on not making any exceptions concerning incarceration? With the highest incarceration rate in the world the US is on road to lock everyone up. When that happens who will the prison guards be?


  58. BackRowHeckler February 15, 2020 at 8:35 pm #

    “In the west, your ten thousand neighbors are ready to shove a microscope up your ass.” – Kesa Anna

    There it is folks, the money line. Read it and weep, slapped in the side of the head with the reality of life in the USA.

    The reality is life in the land of the free ain’t that free …there’s more rules and regulations here than in the NKorean Army … say the wrong thing to the wrong person, miss a tax payment, look at somebody the wrong way, don’t come to a complete stop at the stop sign … in fact attract the attention of authorities in any way, then, as Kesa Ann pointed out in an earlier post, its a free country if you have $500 an hour to pay a lawyer.

    And wait until somebody like Bernie Sandals or Bloomberg gets to be president, which will eventually happen, telling you how big of a soda cup you can buy, how much meat you can eat, what kind of car to drive (electric), what to keep your thermostst on, and who your doctor will be. There’s great days ahead.


    • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 8:48 pm #

      It’s insane that the very things that this commie idiot complains about are the things s/he supports to bring about the complaints. How people can be so conflicted, can only be explained by a completely parasitized brain. Complete cognitive dissonance — because they completely lost the ability to think rationally and reason.

      • BackRowHeckler February 15, 2020 at 10:40 pm #

        Ah, Akfomo

        You’re a smart guy, its clear you’ve been academically trained, you don’t take any crap so there’s that toughness about you … all kinds of people come to a board such as this one is, with different perspectives. If you read her posts closely she says some interesting things, nothing to take personally or get upset about.


        • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 10:56 pm #

          No, this is an academically trained smart guy:


        • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 11:07 pm #

          KesaAnna is the Jimi Hendrix of this blog. Very charming very talented very lyrical but very stupid and very wrong and on a path to certain death and destruction

          • GreenAlba February 16, 2020 at 11:48 am #

            We’re all on a path to certain death, akmofo.

          • akmofo February 16, 2020 at 1:52 pm #

            Yes, but some of us are leisurely walking along the long beautiful path, and some of us are flying a dive bomber into the ground.

          • GreenAlba February 16, 2020 at 3:09 pm #

            Well I’ve pretty much always been in the slow lane, akmofo, so I’m not complaining. The view is not bad at all.

          • akmofo February 16, 2020 at 5:05 pm #

            There is no slow lane. There is the path, and there is darkness and numbness. If you’re not complaining it is because you no longer have the strength and the spine to complain. It’s because you don’t remember and can’t imagine anything better. Your stupid pride wont allow you to.

    • EvelynV February 17, 2020 at 2:41 am #


      Lots of people elect to live in HOAs. The restrictions they impose are every bit as bad as all the rules you suggest could be imposed by Bernie and/or Bloomberg so what’s the big deal? People are already allowing themselves to be handled like bonded servants.

  59. KesaAnna February 15, 2020 at 10:59 pm #

    ” I did rather wonder when you’d eventually get it together to bite the face off one another. ”

    I don’t know about him , but I would let him say what he likes , and I would even arm him too.

    I wonder if you would ?

    I’m inclined to suspect that you suspect I’m not inclined to bite his face off , but you would rather not see that / know that.

    Rather like Janos you are inclined to paint me in a way that somehow ends up with my being your inferior. That’s my suspicion anyway.

    ” …. just as she knows perfectly well that when someone uses the common, everyday idiomatic terms ‘mad’, ‘crazy’ (like crazy cat lady?), ‘idiot’, or even ‘insane’ in a lively argument about VIEWS, it has no connection whatever with a wish, aspiration or even daydream of having their interlocutor banged up in an asylum. ”

    To undercut , de- legitimize , or stigmatize VIEWS is precisely why it is commonly resorted to.

    But then presumably you would know that , since you have read that before , because i have wrote it before.

    A person who is wrong , bad , evil , wicked , etc , may still , unfortunately , be your equal , if not lovable , if not someone you want to invite to your birthday party.

    “Crazy” is different. “Crazy ” is a magic wand you can wave to transform a 50 year old into a 5 year old.

    You can sound really scientific — even if there isn’t a lick of science in it.

    And you can look nicey – nicey , even lovey – dovey , when you’re actually trying to slit someones throat.

    But then I have explained all of that before.

    it strikes me as kinda funny you commonly never seem to notice what I spent two hours writing , and five times over.

    i dunno , maybe it’s because I didn’t invent the above. I got the above idea from an atheist of Jewish origin.

    I’m pretty much just plagiarizing her.

    That’s maybe a bad theory though. I might guess that in your Christian days you were just as adept at ridiculing those atheists , while looking the Care Bear at the same moment ?

    “… fucking reptile ”

    That was a bit over the top.

    I’m sorry I ever said it —- NOT LEAST BECAUSE you have brought it up about 50 times now , and 6 months later.

    Speaking of weaponized victimhood —

    ” You’re both just weaponising your victimhood and I have to say the irony is mind boggling. ”

    I’m not going , in this case , to make a long story of it , so suffice to say I have seen my share of violence. Up close , personal , and rather intimate.

    But I’M NOT the one bringing up the subject of rape and child molestation and implying men ( as some vaguely defined , but large percentage ) can’t be trusted around women , at LEAST every day here , and about every five minutes generally in daily life.

    What I have said , twice now I think , is that in my apparent experience , and in my suspicion / view , only one in four , or one in five , of both sexes , has an acute sex drive.

    ” Unfortunately ” , if that’s true , though , it furthers neither the agenda of feminists , nor misogynists.

    It doesn’t further the agenda of police fan boys ( of either sex ) who WANT a police state , or anyone itching to go back to Jim Crow and segregation. ( Someone , I can’t remember who , said that segregation was really all about TOUCH. I think there is some truth in that. )

    It doesn’t help SJW’s , and it doesn’t help right – wingers.

    it doesn’t help males who stand to reap the rewards of an apparent virility , and it doesn’t help females who don’t want to get off their asses and go ask for a date.

    Which , by the by , is part of why I think I’m right . Not uncommonly the truth …. helps nobody , and is welcome among nobody.

    ” You’re both just weaponising your victimhood ”

    Sounds to me more like you’re calling me stupid.

    Stupid , as in that I don’t know that defending Nazis and child molesters and countries that no longer exist is not going to pay my grocery bill , or win me any friends ?

    That I don’t know that I’m essentially squaring off a pea – shooter against a Tiger tank ?

    I DO know that.

    ” We Americans .. ” ( ” We Russians …” If Clusterfuck Nation was in Cyrillic )

    ” We White people .. ”

    ” We Blacks … ”

    ” We women …”

    Would almost certainly be a more effective way to weaponize victimhood.

    And I know that too.

    “…the irony is mind boggling. ”

    I think it is rich in irony that you apply these things to me and not to a dozen others here.

    But I guess you’ll skate right over what I just wrote above too. *Shrug *

    ” I doubt she really thinks ‘child molester’ is a ‘smoke filled coffee house abstraction’ either … ”

    I don’t .

    ” but nor, either, do I think the intent behind it, far from being ‘lethal’, is anything other than a wish to gratuitously insult ”

    Wrong. I meant it. Literally , fully , and sincerely.

    ” Likewise she’d have to be more measured in the use of terms like ‘child molester’ without the slightest foundation in anything done or even said to a child. ”

    Now we are back to things I have written before , and more than once , but which , at least it sure looks like , you make out were never written .

    There are a great many crimes against children.

    indeed , so many I’m rather non- plussed that I even need explain or elaborate , or any such.

    If I ONLY LISTED them in a word or two , I would be here at least all fucking day !

    Anyway , one out of three , or is it two out of three ( ? ) children raised in single – parent families will be raised in poverty , and even in rich countries , it’s a good bet that 75% ( ? ) of those have a snowballs chance in hell of ever leaving that poverty.

    You were once poor ?

    Then you know !

    Being poor isn’t getting fucked yesterday , or last week , or last year , or ten years ago.

    it’s getting fucked today , and tomorrow , and maybe forever , and nobody really gives a shit .

    Everybody and his brother has a good and very convenient explanation of why you deserve to be poor . ( And deserve to be fucked . )

    So , yeah , that adds up to nobody really gives a shit.

    That’s why everybody wants to win the million dollar lottery , and I think tellingly , no less in the United States than in North Korea.

    yeah , there are lots of good reasons why people get divorced.

    But , I would guess that unless you have been living in a cave all these years , you have noticed that a lot of these divorces basically come down to one or two selfish , self – absorbed assholes who cannot get along BECAUSE THEY WON’T get along.

    And so the result is someone condemned to poverty , maybe for life.

    Let me say that again ;

    A LIFE SENTENCE , basically because your luck was poor , and because of some asshole.

    So —

    ” … she’d have to be more measured … ”

    Do you mean I should only stigmatize someone who fucks you in the ass once ,

    But I shouldn’t stigmatize , it’s somehow unfair , to stigmatize someone who fucks your whole life in a thousand different ways ?

    Some Roman general once said , if you kill two people you get labelled a murderer , and get crucified. If you kill ten thousand people , you get laurels , and a triumph .

    That sort of thing , is it ?

    It’s fine and dandy to blast this guy or gal over here , who presumably has no demographic representatives on this board.

    But I’m an asshole if I blast the whole board ( including myself in that, by the way ) ?

    Measuring my terms , even to a pedantic degree , is precisely what I do.

    ” ..without the slightest foundation… ”

    I have only typed out the above explanation / elaboration about ten times now.

    I’m pretty god damned sure I’m not the one throwing the tape measure out the fucking window because somebody might not like the results.

    ” Kesa wouldn’t thank me for the slightest positive word, any more than she would if I saved her life ”

    Like with Elysianfield , I’m not so sure you were defending my person.

    I suspect Akfomo’ s candor and emotional sincerity is more a threat to you or Elysianfield than to me.

    Anyway ,

    I was the sort of girl whose number one ambition in life was to get married and have babies. Like Kurt Vonnegut said , ” A nation of two ” because nothing else matters , all else is false.

    I wound up 54 years old , single , and childless .

    And my point is ?

    It does not appear that my likes and dislikes amounted to much.

    A comedian once said , ” If Denzel Washington says it , it’s flirting. If nerdy Clarence Thomas says it , it’s sexual harassment . ”

    Again , it seems to me , the moral is that ones likes and dislikes don’t necessarily signify much , or anything at all.

    I actually like you. ( a little )

    But I’m pretty sure you would go right on trying to subvert the Catholic Church ( while steadfastly claiming you are not ) even if I kissed your ass.

    I like Elysianfield a lot . So what ? There might be such a thing as a good cop , but so what ? The German term for the police , ” chained dogs ” was perfect. The police institution is an attack dog.

    Whatever the virtues of the individual member of that institution may be , the dog will wag it’s tail.
    Whether it is the United States , East Germany , or fucking Nepal , you are a jack ass to trust that tail.

    I like Janos a little. But I’m pretty sure that , even if he liked my black ass , he will go right on trying to usher in his Fourth Reich ( while steadfastly claiming that’s gonna be really nice for white people.

    Well , my concentration camp might suck pretty bad , but my guess is you might not like your Stalingrad so much. )

    Obviously ( ? ) I like James Howard Kunstler.

    But I’m sure as I am sitting here that his United States is going to be a curse to his grandchildren. And I’m going to say so.
    If he did invite me to his birthday party , I doubt he would enjoy it.

    And so on …

    • Janos Skorenzy February 15, 2020 at 11:48 pm #

      But you would enjoy it? Why wouldn’t he enjoy it – because you would jump into the cake or something?

      Didn’t you talk about your kids any number of times – but now you’re childless? Did something change or was that a different Kesa – or am I just crazy?

      Akmo blames Catholics for all the evils that the Jews (he is Jewish) commit and even other evils as well.

      Catholics must love everyone. I love you Kesa, so there. Feel worse? Sorry! I luv you long time, ok?

      • akmofo February 15, 2020 at 11:59 pm #

        Yes, KesaAnna, Janos loves you dearly.
        Let me remind you what this love looks likes:


      • KesaAnna February 16, 2020 at 1:10 am #

        ” But you would enjoy it? Why wouldn’t he enjoy it – because you would jump into the cake or something? ”

        It’s a terribly common , sophomoric tactic to pretend that what the other person said was crazy or stupid gibberish , when you actually understood them perfectly well.

        So I really am loathe to make this claim.

        I don’t know what the above two sentences mean.

        Clarify ?

        “Didn’t you talk about your kids any number of times”


        You’re welcome to go back through the blog posts and look for the post that isn’t there.

        As for taking my word for it , I wouldn’t make up a story including children anyway.

        I ONCE wanted children. That was a long time ago.

        like I was once a call girl — 30 years ago. I’m anything but pretty now. More like a horrid wreck.

        Anyway , I wouldn’t make up a story including children because , like 17th Century Protestants made an over – the – top fetish about witches , modern man makes an over – the – top fetish out of children.

        Both fetishes are barking mad , and vicious in the extreme .

        These days I have a phobia regarding children . I’ll cross the street to avoid one , given my views.

        Just like , given my views regarding self – defense , and guns , I won’t go near a gun.

        They might not use gun – possession as a pretext to string you up ?

        But I’m damn sure they would use it as a pretext to string me up , even if it was a fucking rust – frozen , broken , matchlock.

        ” Catholics must love everyone. I love you Kesa, so there. Feel worse? ”

        Having lived 50 + years , and not a single close friend , I’m afraid , ” God Loves you ” is a cold comfort.

        likewise a cold comfort to think you have to die to go to Disneyland, and even at that , whether you go or not is someone elses call to make. ( Gods call that is. )

        I don’t say otherwise.

        I get the impression it really , really bothers a lot of people that I don’t try to sell what I’m selling like they sell Chevrolets or shampoo.

        by the way , I think Stalingrad had its ROMANTIC aspects .

        If you really loved Germany that way, wouldn’t you want to be there ? Some times I wish I had a time machine , and could go back there , even knowing how it is going to turn out.

        I don’t think I could pass as a Romanian , and if I remember correctly , all the female nurses were evacuated. Time machines don’t exist though . It’s a “pleasant ” daydream though.

        ” I love you Kesa, so there. Feel worse? ”

        What do you think ? Should I feel better ? Feel worse ? Doesn’t matter ?

        ” Sorry! I luv you long time, ok? ”

        like I said , i was a call girl 30 years ago. If you were that freaky , I gotta admit , I would have to think about it. Tempting.

        “Didn’t you talk about your kids any number of times”

        Oh , I did more than once mention that my income feeds eight people. I didn’t specify who those people were , or any other particulars.

        I’m leery of those kinds of particulars.

        I suppose it’s ok to specify that the town with the four brothels I mentioned the other day was Greensboro N.C.

        I had a friend once who would really drive you folks bat shit I suppose. We were friends ten years. She would never show me a picture of herself , or give me a phone number or address.

        And after ten years , SHE’S the one who dropped the relationship.

        I suppose you might work that out to my somehow being the Miss Unreasonable anyway though.

        ” But you would enjoy it? Why wouldn’t he enjoy it ”

        Oh , i figured it out.


        I doubt he would enjoy it because , among other things , I keep telling him he’s a jack ass to think the United States can be reformed. The ONLY way it can be reformed , if he’s serious about democracy , human rights , good neighborhoods for whites , and that sort of thing , is to Balkanize.

        God damn the United States.

        The Confederates , loser racists not withstanding , were right.

        Sorrrry !

        • Janos Skorenzy February 16, 2020 at 10:44 am #

          Thank you for the clarification. It must have been the “my income thing” and my own imagination taking it from there.

          I agree about the balkanization. You’re a Niza not a Nazi, but the good neighborhoods for Whites makes you a Nazi again. Anything for Whites makes one a Nazi now, ultimately even being White will become a crime. The savagery and resolve of our enemies is undeviating.

          Agree about the kids too, perhaps. Little darlings are idolized and thus, ruined. The East has it right: treat them like gods until they’re about five, then servants until adolescence. Then begin slowly to give them some degree of autonomy and independence if they’re deserving.

    • KesaAnna February 15, 2020 at 11:57 pm #

      ” …his United States is going to be a curse to his grandchildren.”

      The mixed – race girl says ; God Bless the memory of the Confederacy !!

      I just had to add that.

    • GreenAlba February 16, 2020 at 9:45 am #

      I wish I could just email this to you, as it is not my particular wish for anyone else to read it (naturally you won’t believe that either, but whatever), but that’s not in my power. Discreet people may feel free to look away. Please do. Anyway…

      (1) That you think I feel in any way superior to you is something I find odd. You are clearly cleverer and more knowledgeable than I am and there’s nothing I have achieved in my unremarkable life (whose sufferings have also been mediocre and everyday, not dramatic) that you couldn’t have done with your hands tied behind your back and a patch over one eye. The only difference is circumstances, and even those have been unremarkable in their provision of a cushion when times were bad (and a school system that, at the time, favoured the reasonably bright from modest backgrounds).

      Your bad times were far worse than my bad times, which again gives me respect for your survival of them and not any sense of superiority for your suffering of them. It strikes me, though, that there is something wrong with a country where someone can be as clever as you and find herself in poverty. Or where poverty, for those of whatever IQ, can be as extreme as it is amid plenty.

      (2) My contributions to helping children (and young people) either escape their poverty or not have to suffer so much in the first place are, while they are not in any way impressive, still beyond your ken. They too are mediocre, but they do exist. Your judgement of me for abandoning a bad marriage is up to you – I did everything I could to give my children a settled and secure life nevertheless, with no ‘boyfriends’ around the place to disturb their serenity. They certainly don’t judge me – they know their father (who incidentally contributed nothing to their upbringing subsequently, unless you think £5/week is a contribution, shared between two kids). ‘The minimum’ is all he ever offered, in every way. My bad judgement… mea culpa. You don’t seem to worry about the families that may have been broken up by your call-girl activities with the pater familias. I certainly would have dumped mine pronto in the circumstances, had I found out about such a thing.

      My current husband is a (part-time) doctor, now past retirement age, but still working because his pension will be no more than mine. When he moved in with me (he wouldn’t get married until his bankruptcy had run its course) he was penniless and in debt, his home lost to a business that didn’t work out (the infamous RBS had a little to do with that too, but he wasn’t a born businessman), his pension savings, and pretty much everything bar the clothes he stood up in. I don’t judge people in the way that you seem to think, in terms of inferiority and superiority (although I’d say my risk assessment skills are clearly better than his!). But no matter – perhaps it helps you to believe that.

      (3) I have not the slightest interest in seeing the downfall or disappearance of the Catholic Church, either now or in the future, although I do not lament its loss of power over people in certain places. It does what it does – I assume, in my naivety, that most of it is good (and/or comforting), but I’m sure I could read books, if I wished to spend time on it, to tell me more of what is bad. I am aware of the ‘scandals’ but I do not particularly dwell on them. I know that most priests are well meaning.

      Nor do I wish most sincerely that people didn’t believe what they believe. They can believe what they like. But it would be nice if they would make space in their head for the possibility that others do not (or do not any longer) share their beliefs and yet that (a) that lack of belief is entirely legitimate and understandable, and (b) they are not bad people deserving, ultimately, to burn in their hell because of the honest conclusions of their sincere thinking. (I make no difference here between traditional Catholics and fiery evangelicals, because the differences, fundamentally, don’t appear very significant to me).

      (4) Coming back to (1) if you’d actually met *me* without any acquaintance with ‘GreenAlba’, I doubt you would even have disliked me. You just wouldn’t have had any great interest in me. Not because I don’t have any friends otherwise – I do, but I count them in quality and not in quantity. And some are very old friends, who live far away and can only be seen in person every year or two.

      If you had been a friend or neighbour, your sixty-a-day habit would also have been left entirely your own business (although I’d have been in some awe at your financial management skills, since I imagine that probably represents more money than I had to feed my kids at one time!), and I imagine you, in your turn, would have been as courteous as my husband, who smokes his half dozen a day on the front step, as he would anywhere except his own house, if he had one. He drinks too much beer, when he’s not working, and eschews green vegetables and exercise, taking the view that you’ve got to die of something and that life gets boring as you get older anyway. You’d possibly like him. He’s a history buff too, although his conclusions may be different from yours.

      (5) I am sorry about your lack of friends, but only if you are. And definitely about the lack of children, knowing how much I wanted them. You probably can’t imagine that a person can feel sorry for someone’s lack of either without both being patronising and feeling in some way superior. There is nothing whatever that I can do about that. There are very few people that I feel superior to, and whatever self-esteem I have is held on to with difficulty and against my natural personality. Do not be fooled by *GreenAlba* – she has way more self-confidence and resilience to personal attack than I have, because she only exists ‘on paper’ where she can be less easily crushed. My self-esteem can be trodden into the ground in seconds and has been, on many an occasion. I feel you are doing better with yours, so good luck to you with that.

      I hope you do find another friend. A friend or two that you can trust is good to have. Of my little group of four that I meet up with now every year or so in one country or another, one is Catholic (the Creole one, from Mauritius, that I’ve mentioned), one is atheist (and always has been, although her mother sent her to Sunday School in Belfast, without being religious herself, because she thought her children should make up their own minds), the other I’m not sure. She was certainly a freethinker and not religious (when I was!) when we were students, but she now wears a small gold cross – she and her husband married 40 years ago in a Parisian town hall, with no guests, but I think they renewed their vows a long time later – maybe in church, I don’t know – perhaps she got it then. I wouldn’t ask what her current state of belief is – I’m less inclined to ask probing questions than she is in my direction.

      “I was the sort of girl whose number one ambition in life was to get married and have babies. Like Kurt Vonnegut said , ” A nation of two ” because nothing else matters , all else is false.
      I wound up 54 years old , single , and childless .”

      Your ambition was the same as mine. Probably (among other reasons to do with my parents) why I married someone unsuitable when I should have waited and lived a little more first, so my dream didn’t work out either. For what it’s worth, I remarried at 58 and clearly not with anyone wealthy. It isn’t over till it’s over. But he’s not a fairy tale prince anyway.
      PS I’m not threatened by akmofo. 🙂 I doubt he’d do me any harm and shouting his mouth off, as sincerely as he likes, is his right. We all get something out of it. Even if it’s just to banter about things our nearest and dearest and our friends wouldn’t want to banter about.

      I might guess that in your Christian days you were just as adept at ridiculing those atheists , while looking the Care Bear at the same moment ?

      No, I just felt stupid and intimidated. There weren’t many of us about. A lecturer in an early tutorial (on French philosophy) asked if there were any Christians in our group. I hesitantly put my hand up and he said ‘right, so you must like being trodden on’. People smiled. I said nothing that I remember, except that I thought it was probably better than treading on other people. So, no, you’re wrong again. But I wish you well anyway,whatever you might think.

      • GreenAlba February 16, 2020 at 9:55 am #

        Sorry, the PS ended up in the wrong place…

  60. akmofo February 16, 2020 at 12:43 am #



    Nothing is coincidence.

  61. KesaAnna February 16, 2020 at 2:36 am #

    “Catholics must love everyone. ”

    Correct. I see you received a good grounding in the C.C.C. ( For the outsiders here , Catechism of the Catholic Church )

    I hear from many cradle Catholics that theological education was pretty lousy in the 1960’s thru 1980’s.

    The Cult that kisses everybodies ass. And sucks their dick , and hey , you can string me up too !

    And yet the reaction is , if the sky should fall , and the oceans dry up , and gasoline should go to three hundred dollars a gallon ,

    well, at least they have the decline of the Catholic Church to look forward to !

    I would be lieing if I said I did not understand some of why you think the way you do.

    • Cargill February 16, 2020 at 3:27 am #

      I would be lying if I said I did not understand some of why you think the way you do.

      I think the reverse … I would be lying if I said I DID understand why most of the inmates on here think the way they do Let’s forget the Catholic Cult – it’s the Trumpian Kool Aid that’s had them bouncing around the room like spinning tops for almost four years.

  62. Cargill February 16, 2020 at 4:35 am #

    My objection to “sensible” mainstream media (CNN, MSNBC in part, WaPo, NYT, etc) is that they do this infuriating thing of seeing everything through a lens that says (a) Washington is still a land of good laws and people with a decent moral compass, and (b) “both sides” are part of an intriguing two-horse race, as if it is even, fair, and unbiased.

    Some even go so far as to say that the Trump Ascendency is a total aberration, and the GOP will return to “normal conservatism” when he’s gone. It’s nonsense of course – the GOP is a party of power-mad ferals, and they enabled Trump – not the other way round.

    So rather than talk about the outrageous crimes that Trump has escaped punishment for, they drone on about whether the Democrats “mucked up their impeachment strategy” etc etc – as if that is equally as newsworthy – and totally ignoring the criminal Trump, and the equally corrupt Moscow Mitch.

    I shake my head in wonder when I do read or hear their stuff

    My regular media outlets are the usual leftie suspects: DailyBeast, DailyKos, Vox, Politico, Politicususa, Alternet, RawStory, CrooksandLiars, AmericanProspect, NewRepublic … and a couple of others that are a bit patchy – Huffington Post, The Hill, etc. So yes – I’m clearly in my own bubble, but at least I believe it is honest, and far more tethered to reality.

    And yes – I find it truly bizarre that Bernie Sanders is even allowed into the tent – how does this happen? But if he usurps the Democratic Party nomination, they will lose very badly.

    • ellipsis February 16, 2020 at 6:15 am #

      Evidently you’ve yet to entertain the idea that your so-called “lefty” sources are just an alternative flavor of the same old bullshit. Impossible to say what Sanders is or isn’t at this point (hard for me to believe that a loyal career DC pol could possibly be all that much different than the rest), but the idea that the Donkey Shit Party is significantly different in any conceivable way than the Elephant Shit Party grows more laughable by the day. Same with the MSM. They’re all just front organizations for an entrenched, multi-generational power elite who actually run things, while staying smartly concealed from view by the curtain of relative anonymity.

      Note that these are not the people that people have taken to calling “The Deep State” lately, although elements of that entrenched bureaucracy certainly do their bidding. If those people think that a Socialist president will advance their cause, then socialism it will be, for a time at least. But know that there will always be a deeper game being played as well, so all will never be as it seems.

      Same with Trump. He certainly could have been eliminated in any number of ways by now if he was deemed not to be useful, so the fact that he’s still alive and kicking politically tells me that he is. The idea that the MSM is “sensible” in any way, either all or in part, or that “normal times” will ever return to the US is also misguided. The “new normal” has already been defined (and gets redefined almost daily now, it seems) and we’re all living in it now, for better or worse.

      Politics has always been theater for the masses, but what we have now has taken that to previously unimaginable levels. Best for our sanity if we view it as what it actually is: a divine comedy of sorts, poking fun at all of us. We’re all free to pick a part and join in the play if we like, or if we’re more perceptive, simply sit back and enjoy the production.

      • akmofo February 16, 2020 at 8:46 am #

        Why not create your own political drama? Why always retreat to your dark cave to doodle incoherent thoughts on its walls — incoherent thoughts that you chimped from another chump chirping the very propaganda that keep the rigged game going.

        Are you a man or are you a mouse?

      • BackRowHeckler February 16, 2020 at 11:29 am #

        Reading the Sunday NY papers today, WSJ, NYT, NYPOST, it appears the ‘infuencers’ are lining up behind Michael Bloomberg. Bloomberg seems to be their choice. It will be interesting to see what happens next July, when elite, establishment, moneyed Bloomberg backers square off against zealous Sanders supporters who are convinced the fix is in (again). Sanders backers will own the streets, Bloomberg supporters will own the microphone and tv cameras. It could get ugly.


        • EvelynV February 16, 2020 at 7:44 pm #

          Someone out to torpedo Bloomberg by playing up that he is considering Clinton as a running mate.

      • Majella February 16, 2020 at 4:33 pm #

        “Impossible to say what Sanders is or isn’t at this point (hard for me to believe that a loyal career DC pol could possibly be all that much different than the rest),”

        Sanders is an Independent who caucuses with Dems for reasons of practicality and because the original – now defunct – core principles of the Democrats was FOR the little guy, the worker. He’s not wavered from that stand at any point in his political life. Give him some credit for that.

        It’s POSSIBLE (but unlikely) he’ll get the nomination, and if he does, he may well win.

        However, at that point, he’d still find himself up against the conservative wing of the Dems, and have a mighty battle to get anything over the line, without a huge populous support base.

        More likely though, he’ll get royally and overtly screwed at the Convention…again. This time, he might take his cause 3rd party and really see the Dems in the dumpster, with a second-place finish. The ‘electable’ oligarch or oligarch-funded Dem nominee would whimper into a poor third place.

        “Politics has always been theater for the masses,”

        As Frank Zappa put it most succinctly “Politics is the Entertainment Division of Industry”

        • GreenAlba February 16, 2020 at 4:40 pm #

          And also, as someone said, Hollywood for ugly people. 🙂

      • Majella February 16, 2020 at 6:01 pm #

        “Evidently you’ve yet to entertain the idea that your so-called “lefty” sources are just an alternative flavor of the same old bullshit. ”

        Ellipsis – I guess the same could be said of the other side of the argument too – that your so-called ‘right’ or CapitalConservative sources are just an alternative flavour of the same old bullshit.

        In the end, we find information sources that resonate with our core values. I go to Fox regularly and sometimes am surprised that the reporting is actually honest & useful. Not so however the ‘Opinionators’ on later in the evening, whom I find are unabashed boosters all of the incumbent President and will lie just as outrightly as Himself, in his service. If you can’t stand Jeanne Pirro for more than 5 minutes, there’s always the smarmy, Laura Ingraham if you want to lose your dinner.

        On the ‘left’, the likes of Chris Matthews, Jake Tapper et al are clearly delivering an agenda-driven view, and I can discount stuff which is clearly just BS. However, its worst examples cannot compete with the Screamers on Fox.

        Lately, I’ve found The Hill – the youtube outlet, particularly “Rising” with Krystal Ball. Smart, not beholden to anyone.


      • Nightowl February 17, 2020 at 6:35 am #

        Agreed for the most part, but your logic is faulty on Trump. It is equally possible that he and his team have thwarted all attempts to be taken out in some manner, despite his not being useful (and even highly counterproductive) to whatever agenda is in question.

        Just because A does not happen does not mean that B (your theory) is true.

    • Nightowl February 16, 2020 at 5:56 pm #

      “Outrageous crimes”

      Yes, those mysterious crimes that no one is allowed to know about.

  63. tucsonspur February 16, 2020 at 5:46 am #

    How much is infected? Talk about dirty money.

    The Chinese are now ‘laundering’ their money. Maybe they’ll have to burn it and the yuan will be gone?

    The PBOC is buying about 1.2 trillion yuan worth of short term bonds to inject liquidity into the system. They say inflation may spread like a virus.

  64. akmofo February 16, 2020 at 8:25 am #

    The ONLY way it can be reformed , if he’s serious about democracy , human rights , good neighborhoods for whites , and that sort of thing , is to Balkanize.

    Indeed. It will happen. As soon as all the other evil empires around the world break to a thousand pieces. That takes a change in thinking and culture. A fundamental recognition that centralized government is fundamentally evil and can never be tamed.

    You’re making fast progress KesaAnna. There’s hope for you. Learn Hebrew and read the TaNaKh. It will open new doors and new worlds for you. You will finally put yourself on the path to joy.

  65. Vinnie the Vintner February 16, 2020 at 9:22 am #

    K-dog said:

    “Not being facetious or gas-lighting. I’m just adding up the externalities. ‘one upon a time’ You turned it into all about you. It is not about you.

    Once upon a time when K-Dog worked minimum wage jobs he knew someone claiming they were working three jobs was full of shit.

    Two maybe.”

    Firstly, it was about me. What an unspeakable thing to do; share some personal life experiences with a unique group of people on this board.

    Secondly, you insinuate I’m full of shit, thus calling me a liar. You don’t know me. And, after that terse, omniscious presumption, I’m done with you.

    No problems in our society will ever get solved with people like you at the table. What a pompous prick.

    • benr February 16, 2020 at 9:44 am #

      And to the essence of what is wrong here.
      We are all right and everyone with a different view is wrong and or stupid.

    • San Jose February 16, 2020 at 10:47 am #

      Greetings from Salt Lake City:

      Our family made it safely out of San Jose and have moved to Utah in the dead of winter. Part of the reason we moved here is that my mother is ailing and she needs the extra care I can offer living close by. The other reason is the crazy politics in California make it a stressful place to live.

      Some observations:

      1. Folks seem nicer here. A few weeks ago we got a major snowstorm that dumped 17 inches. (In 19 years, Salt Lake has only declared two “snowdays”–this was one of them.) Armed only with a snow-shovel, my husband set to clear the driveway and sidewalks. Three neighbors came out to help him!

      2. It is much, much cleaner here. No litter anywhere!

      3, No drug-crazed tweakers running around stealing, littering and pooping. I saw one drunk guy walking the streets downtown on New Years Eve.

      4. Bought a one story house built in 1980 in a non-McMansion neighborhood. In sum: twice the house for half the price of San Jose. Property taxes are one third of what we paid in Calif.

      5. I feel much safer here. A year ago, Bambi Larsen, was murdered in my old neighborhood by a meth-crazed, violent El Salvadoran who had 7 ICE warrants hanging over his head–but he was protected because Santa Clara County is a sanctuary city. This was the event that was the final straw in our deciding to move out of CA.

      6. It’s climate here in winter is challenging! (I’m not a snowflake, but I’m not a snow lover like I was back in my younger, skiing days.)

      Jen in Salt Lake

      • Cargill February 16, 2020 at 11:43 am #

        Well – I trust you enjoy it. We found Salt Lake City one of the earth’s truly boring cities, but if it meets your needs, it might work.

        People in Utah are nice – and often it’s genuine, and not too creepy. What can we put all this nicess down to? Perhaps a genuinely fruitloop version of the Christian Cult, plenty of young wives for bonking, and of course almost zero-alcohol beer.

        I think they’re on a winner, and you get to vote for Senate Superhero Mitt Romney! But I would still expect some pretty solid meth-ice abuse in Utah as well.

        The five national parks are outstanding.

        • San Jose February 16, 2020 at 12:17 pm #


          The national parks are gorgeous, as are the state parks. When you get to my age–61–boring is good. My retirement plans involve a library card and a garden.

          I haven’t had anything to drink since I arrived in Utah. They only sell beer in the supermarkets, and I tried beer once and hated it. I hear they sell wine in state stores, but I haven’t had the gumption to go and get it. Not a big deal.

          The neighbors on both sides of us showed up with cookies and warm greetings within a week of moving in. Neither of them are Mormon. But Mormons make good neighbors! Don’t miss all the homeless tweakers skittering around in San Jose.

          Best of all, I have a beautiful view of Mount O’Sullivan out my living room window. It is 11,000 feet tall. We live on the “bench” below it at 4,500 ft. It’s like living in the alps.

          Jen in Salt Lake

          • stelmosfire February 16, 2020 at 2:00 pm #

            Good to hear you’ve settled in Jen. I really like the Wasatch. Skied there a few times. Is Mount O’Sullivan also called Sunrise Peak? If is I think I can see your house at the bottom of this picture!

          • San Jose February 16, 2020 at 3:19 pm #

            Yes, it’s also called Sunrise peak! I like it best during sunset–covered in snow and reflecting pink/orange tones.

          • Cargill February 16, 2020 at 4:05 pm #

            All sounds excellent … we’re 67-65, and mostly retired too.

            Spend a fair amount of time up here on the Gold Coast Australia, but live mainly in Melbourne – an excellent city, full of gardens and generally nice people – plus arguably the best coffee-culture in the English-speaking world.

            It is safe, clean, friendly, and well served by public transport and community facilities. I’m sure there are a few dark dangerous neighbourhoods, but you don’t have to go anywhere near them.

            The view of your mountain is outstanding – and 4500′ is just about a perfect altitude to live at. Winters might be chilly, but summers excellent.

          • Majella February 16, 2020 at 4:41 pm #

            Inner City suburb, Melbourne.

            Movie – “Death in Brunswick” (1990)


      • BackRowHeckler February 16, 2020 at 2:19 pm #

        Jen, happy to see you made it out of Cal in one piece. Hope you made a good profit on your house. Yes, I remember the Bambi Larsen murder, killed by an illegal who had benefited from Cals insane sanctuary city policies. We are experiencing the same thing in Ct, illegals protected by state govt, who go on to committ murder, rape, and more frequently, vehicular homicide while driving drunk in stolen cars.


        • San Jose February 16, 2020 at 3:23 pm #


          I feel your pain. We bought our San Jose house in 1990 for a little over $300,000. We sold the house for a little over $1.1 million. Never took a loan out against it, so it was paid in full.

          Took some of the dividends out of it and bought myself a VW Golf with all-wheel-drive for the snow. (My first car without a cassette recorder!)

          Jen in Salt Lake

    • BackRowHeckler February 16, 2020 at 11:38 am #

      Vinnie, I worked 2 jobs my whole life, but enough about me.

      I’ll just say some of the Jamaican dudes I work with right now, every one of them work 2 jobs, some work 3 jobs. They work around the clock.

    • K-Dog February 16, 2020 at 7:51 pm #

      Three minimum wage jobs does not add up.

      • BackRowHeckler February 17, 2020 at 12:10 am #

        We make about $22 per hour in the press room, K-Dog, not minimum wage. Even with that we have trouble recruiting and keeping people. (Mostly because its shiftwork)

        The guys from the Caribbean send a good chunk of their money back home to Jamsica, Trinidad, Martinique etc. The goal is to save enough, get out of this frozen wasteland, set themselves up in tropical paradise asap.


  66. SoftStarLight February 16, 2020 at 1:25 pm #

    I wonder if we will be told this coming week that the economy is roaring right along and maybe the stock market might just reach new record highs. No matter about that pesky new virus that appears to spread a little bit more slowly once you completely shut down whole megatropolises and imprison the infected in their homes by placing metal bars on all the doors and windows. Maybe it’s microns swirling around in the air, everywhere by now probably? Anyway, sorry to burst your bubble sir but warm weather won’t make it go away either. It’s hot and muggy in Singapore now and the outbreak is well underway. I’m sure the intensity of the efforts to make things seem normal only grows from here.

    • GreenAlba February 16, 2020 at 1:47 pm #

      Thanks for the reminder. 🙂 Although it’s hot and muggy ALL the time in Singapore. My daughter has for some time had to have her temperature checked before she can get into the office building. She sent me a WhatsApp pic of the queue. Maybe they’ve got quicker at it.

      • GreenAlba February 16, 2020 at 4:37 pm #

        And she’s flapping a heck of a lot less than you. In fact not at all, as far as I can tell.

        I ask myself why that is, when you have the secret of life and she apparently doesn’t.

        She tells me ‘stop worrying – it will be fine; and if it isn’t it isn’t’.

        Seems to me with your worldview you should be worrying a lot less than her. 🙂

        • SoftStarLight February 16, 2020 at 6:22 pm #

          Well I’m glad to hear that she is doing well. I imagine that she is dealing with disruptions to her daily routine as you’ve pointed out and that was the point of my post. Based on what world health experts are saying, we will likely all deal with some because of this at some point. Or there is at least a good chance of it happening. And yet, you wouldn’t probably ascertain that by listening to mainstream news, etc. And I hardly see how an occasional post about a current event is flapping on about something regardless of your worldview. Stop being so judgy.

          • GreenAlba February 16, 2020 at 6:34 pm #

            We’re getting plenty of it on the mainstream news over here.

            My apologies for being ‘judgy’ 🙂

          • SoftStarLight February 16, 2020 at 7:33 pm #

            Are they still saying that we should be more worried about the flu?

          • GreenAlba February 17, 2020 at 9:11 am #


            Not at all. Although I’m guessing most people weren’t aware of quite how many people die every year worldwide of seasonal flu (latest study suggests as many as 646,000):


            They’re giving information and updates, including on the British cases, which mostly came via a conference in Singapore, with one guy stopping off in France with his family and starting an infection there, before coming back to the UK. He’s out of hospital now, and is fine (as, I believe are 7 out of the other 8 cases, as of a couple of days ago – I’m a day or so behind), with no ill effects – clearly I’m not discounting information we may yet find clarified about the vulnerability of recovered patients to re-infection.

            One foolish woman came back from China and fetched up at a hospital unannounced, which meant a couple of staff had to self-isolate as a result – and the Uber driver who brought her was at least temporarily ‘terminated’ because of this dumb person. Instructions here are to stay at home and phone in, as a preliminary measure, which for the majority of people who won’t have serious symptoms is the best thing to do. Hospitals only need to deal with serious cases, as far as I can see.

            There have also been interviews with e.g. epidemiologists from infectious diseases units of university hospitals, so no shortage of updates on what is known so far.

            They’re ‘experts’ in their field, obviously, so should be ignored by all right-thinking persons who prefer to get their epidemiological information from their own wells of intuitive knowledge. 🙂 Me, I’ll still go with someone from Imperial College over my own imaginings, but I’m low IQ and very impressionable or something.

            Sark button off – back to being serious… Yes, there will be problems, as you already know, getting hold of protective clothing. Incidentally one interviewee from Imperial College claims there is no actual evidence for any major benefit from wearing masks, in the overall scheme of things, especially the bog-standard kind that people are using, which are pretty much just what your dentist uses. More important to wash your hands and clean surfaces, I think (and I think my daughter already mentioned they’d been told about the danger of transferring infection from from the mask itself by touching it then inadvertently rubbing your eye or similar).

            Surveys of NHS staff suggest a huge majority (in the 90 percents) feel that they themselves won’t be adequately protected in the event of a serious epidemic here and similar percentages feel the NHS won’t be able to cope.

            So there you are. I don’t think any of that suggests people are being told ‘there, there, now, just stop worrying and make yourself a nice cuppa’. I don’t think there is any kind of effort here to keep people in the dark. Verifiable and definitive confirmation of the actual source of the infection is a different matter, and we will just have to wait and see – strikes me there may be a more lively whistleblowing situation in China after this episode – people are angry. But the priority at the moment is dealing with it, I think.

            You are reading more about it than I am, so you’ll have read more updates yourself. I could read more, but I’m not sure what the point would be of getting too wrapped up in worrying about it when there’s nothing I can do about it, either here or in Sg. If it gets to Edinburgh, I’ll stop using the bus for a while!

          • SoftStarLight February 17, 2020 at 9:47 am #

            Oh ok. Well yeah, it does sound like you are getting more than less information. I think that they may have stopped with the whole, hey it’s not as bad as the flu thing, from a quick survey of the headlines this morning but I think a lot of people are still thinking it may not be too bad. And hopefully that is the case. But as you alluded to, I think there is a lot more that is being hidden by the Chinese government. Ultimately who knows if we will ever know the real truth. Seems to be the case with a lot of things.

  67. BackRowHeckler February 16, 2020 at 2:58 pm #

    Hey look at this …

    At the Daytona 500, during the singing of the National Anthem, nobody is grabbing their crotch or taking a knee.

    What the hell?

  68. tucsonspur February 16, 2020 at 3:39 pm #

    Jen, Arizona and Utah are the best. Beautiful! Good for you and good luck!

    Not to rain on your parade so to speak, but I wonder if you are familiar with this dark history in San Jose. Never knew about it until a couple of months ago.


    Soon I’ll be getting out to Utah canyon country, Capitol Reef, etc. Great stuff.

    Just so you know, if you don’t already, here’s some info:


    • San Jose February 16, 2020 at 3:59 pm #


      Good for you! There’s nothing like a drive up the Grand Escalante Staircase. There’s one point on the 2-lane highway where you have a 3,000 sheer drop on both sides of the road with very little room for a shoulder. Don’t miss Goblin Valley State Park. That place is spooky cool, and lonely– and hardly anyone knows about it.

      • Cargill February 16, 2020 at 4:12 pm #

        I can second Goblin Valley SP! And you could spend half a lifetime traipsing around Southern Utah.

  69. wwg1wga February 16, 2020 at 9:13 pm #

    What’s the matter, Barry??

  70. K-Dog February 17, 2020 at 1:29 am #

    397 comments. I don’t think Jim will mind me promoting my own article this many comments into the weekend thread.

    Life After Oil

    • BackRowHeckler February 17, 2020 at 2:10 am #

      That was a good article K-Dog., much in there to think about.

      I’d like to comment on it further in the coming week.

    • Cargill February 17, 2020 at 3:10 am #

      Yes – a good article, drawing a lot of detailed post-oil scenarios together in the one place.

      I really miss the good old days of The Oil Drum forum!

    • GreenAlba February 17, 2020 at 9:24 am #

      Thanks, K-Dog. Read the article and will listen to the original at some point.

      I was reminded of an old article of Monbiot’s that I managed to find, from way back in 2009.


      The worrying bit was:

      “If the whistleblowers [if the IEA] are right, we should be stockpiling ammunition. If we are taken by surprise; if we have failed to replace oil before the supply peaks then crashes, the global economy is stuffed. But nothing the whistleblowers said has scared me as much as the conversation I had last week with a Pembrokeshire farmer.

      Wyn Evans, who runs a mixed farm of 170 acres, has been trying to reduce his dependency on fossil fuels since 1977. He has installed an anaerobic digester, a wind turbine, solar panels and a ground-sourced heat pump. He has sought wherever possible to replace diesel with his own electricity. Instead of using his tractor to spread slurry, he pumps it from the digester onto nearby fields. He’s replaced his tractor-driven irrigation system with an electric one, and set up a new system for drying hay indoors, which means he has to turn it in the field only once. Whatever else he does is likely to produce smaller savings. But these innovations have reduced his use of diesel by only around 25%.

  71. tucsonspur February 17, 2020 at 3:42 am #

    The Black Lagoons will run dry and Dinocars, Triceratrucks and Pteroplanes will rust and die.

    No more oil will mean blood, tears, and toil. Maybe brace in place when there’s no longer a trace.

    • SoftStarLight February 17, 2020 at 9:49 am #

      Yes, brace in place. It usually is the best idea. Especially if you are reasonably prepared and able to somewhat thrive in that place. A lot of people will probably be looking for places where they think the grass is greener. But they forgot that the sprinklers won’t work anymore.

      • tucsonspur February 18, 2020 at 3:10 am #

        Nice touch with the grass and sprinklers.

  72. Nightowl February 17, 2020 at 4:33 am #

    Bloomberg is toast.


  73. RIB February 17, 2020 at 5:24 am #

    I’m sick of all these Kobe Bryant tributes. I shudder to think, about the national paralysis that’ll occur when Tiger Woods dies

    • BackRowHeckler February 17, 2020 at 6:13 am #

      Actually Tiger seems to be a pretty good guy, RIB. He’s had his problems but accepts responsibility for them; doesn’t go in for racial politics.

      Hey RIB, how about a report on conditions inside Providence. We don’t hear too much about that city in Ct, even tho it’s right next door. I’m wondering if it’s as bad as Hartford and New Haven? I’ve heard some good things and bad things about it.


      • RIB February 17, 2020 at 9:50 am #

        BRH there’s been a huge hoopla in Providence about the city’s school system. An independent observer found minimal amounts of learning going on, no discipline and abysmal test scores.:https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2019-06-28/dysfunctional-providence-schools-highlight-the-challenges-of-urban-school-districts. Providence is a Mecca of dive bars, strip clubs and Dunkin Donut/ Pizza Joint employment. We have an openly gay congressman (David Cicilline) and Providence’s mayor, Jorge Elorza will be running for gov with the probable slogan “Pot in every chicken.” Rhode Island is dead last in state infrastructure, dead last in business friendliness; it has the fifth highest amount of people who are leaving the state (and is in danger of having only one representative), and the gov, Queen Gina Raimando has the 2nd lowest favorable rating of any USA gov. Other than that, we’re doing just ducky.

    • SoftStarLight February 17, 2020 at 9:55 am #

      And this is the same culture and society that openly supports the degrading of police and the military. The people who actually contribute something to the society at large. Kobe and Tiger are only famous because they made/make money for insiders. They were and are toilers for the plantation.


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