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In this pause between past and future Deep State seditions, and the full-blown advent of Corona Virus in every region of the world, we pause to consider Mr. Trump’s executive order requiring new federal buildings to be designed in the classical style. The directive has caused heads to explode in the cultural wing of Progressive Wokesterdom, since the worship of government power has replaced religion for them and federal buildings are their churches — the places from which encyclicals are hurled at the masses on such matters as who gets to think and say what, who gets to use which bathroom, and especially whose life and livelihood can be destroyed for being branded a heretic.

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The religion of Progressivism (under various names) has been growing for over a century, based on the idea that the material abundance of techno-industrial societies should be centrally managed by national bureaucracies, finally leading to a nirvana of perfect fairness. The part that’s always left out is that this is accomplished by coercion, by pushing people around, telling them what to do and how to think, and by confiscating their property or docking their privileges if they seem to have too much of either. You can observe the operations of this doctrine in the current crop of Democratic Party aspirants to the White House.

The architecture that expressed all that is loosely called “Modernism” mostly because it was supposed to represent the distilled essence of everything that is up-to-date, and the idea of coercing an unfair world toward universal fairness has ruled the elite managerial class ever since Karl Marx lanced his boils of social grievance on the printed page. The First World War really sealed the deal for Modernism. The industrial-scale slaughter — well-depicted in the recent movie, 1917 — so horrified the elites that the architecture branch of elite-dom decided to shit-can all the offensive claptrap of history as expressed in buildings and replace them with bare boxes of one kind or another. A whole metaphysical theology was constructed to justify this attempt at a totalistic do-over for the human race. “Less is more…” et cetera.

Meanwhile, along came Stalin and Hitler who persisted in the dirty business of neoclassical architecture, and they screwed the pooch on that theme for all time, while the Second World War reaffirmed the urge to cleanse the world of all that filthy symbolism. By the 1950s, Modernism ruled the scene as the architecture of Decency and Democracy. It very quickly became the architecture that glorified corporate America, viz., the rows of glass box skyscrapers hoisted up along the grand avenues of midtown Manhattan, and then every other city center in America. Before long, as the old government buildings of yore grew obsolete, they too were replaced with confections of Modernism, and then the university libraries, and finally… everything.

The trouble with being up-to-date in architecture is that buildings last a long time and dates fade into history, and if you hate history you have created a problem. The world is a restless place. The main feature of this particular moment is that techno-industrial society has entered an epochal contraction presaging collapse due to over-investments in hyper-complexity. That hyper-complexity has come to be perfectly expressed in architecture lately in the torqued and tortured surfaces of gigantic buildings designed by computers, with very poor prospects for being maintained, or even being useful, as we reel into a new age of material scarcity and diminished expectations — especially the expectation for reaching that technocratically engineered nirvana of fairness.

Of course, the mandarin uber-class among the elite, especially the poohbahs in the architecture schools, can’t bear the thought that things are tending this way. Their theology of up-to-date-ness, of “the cutting edge,” is all about fashion. That things go out of fashion has given them the opportunity to create and cash-in on ever more new fashions, to keep up the pretense of perpetually surfing that cutting edge, from which they derive their status. And this incessant reach for status, and the power it confers, belies and betrays the whole business of representing the ultimate nirvana of fairness, revealing them to be the mendacious frauds they are.

The Trumpian reach backward toward classicism is certainly a quixotic move, even though one can make a case for it being a national style, at least in the early years of the USA when that mode of building was supposed to represent the democracy of ancient Greece and the dignity of the Roman republic — hence, Greco-Roman architecture. Some things to consider: We’re going to have to reduce the scale of the things we build. The cutting edge grandiosity of today is about to go out of style. National bureaucracies will shrink, if they don’t vanish altogether, and so will the buildings that house their operations.

We’re going to need buildings that don’t go out of style, so you can forget about the cutting edge, and classicism does have the virtue of timelessness — or at least it did, for a long time. These new buildings ought to have the capacity for adaptive re-use over generations, even centuries. They will probably have to be made out of non-exotic materials, namely, masonry and wood, since the scarcities we face will include a lot of modular fabricated materials ranging from plate glass to aluminum trusswork to steel I-beams, to sheetrock — all things requiring elaborate, complex mining and manufacturing chains.

A virtue of classicism is that it employs structural devices that allow buildings to stand up: arches, columns, colonnades. These are replicable in modules or bays along scales from small to large. These devices honestly express the tectonic sturdiness of a building within the realities of gravity. A hidden virtue of classicism is that it is based on the three-part representation of the human figure: the whole and all the parts within it exist in nested hierarchies of base-shaft-and-head. This is true of columns with capitols set on a base, of windows with their sills, sashes, and lintels, and the whole building from base to roof. Classical architecture follows proportioning systems universally found in nature, such as the Fibonacci series of ratios, which are seen in everything from the self-assembly of seashells to the growth of tree branches. Thus, classicism links us to nature and to our own humanity.

University of Virginia by Thomas Jefferson

Classical ornaments — the swags, moldings, entablatures, cartouches, corbels, festoons, and what-have-you — are not mandatory, but, of course, they also provide a way of expressing our place in nature, which is a pathway to expressing truth and beauty.

Modernism doesn’t care about truth and beauty; it cares about power, especially the power to coerce.  Many people detect that dynamic, and that is one reason they loathe Modernist buildings. The main imperative of Modernism was to separate us from nature, since it was human nature that brought about all the horrors of the 20th century and so revolted the intellectual elites. The result of that was a denatured architecture of the machine and an animus against what it means to be human located in nature.

We’re probably not going back to anything like formal classicism because the contraction ahead will leave us in a world of salvage, of cobbling together whatever we can from the detritus left over. But sooner or later — surely well after Mr. Trump has decomposed into his constituent molecules — we will get back to an architecture that is based on our place in nature, so don’t set your hair on fire over this new executive order, no matter how much The New York Times wants you to.


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  1. City_of_76 February 10, 2020 at 10:16 am #

    Along the lines of Jim’s observation that “techno-industrial society has entered an epochal contraction,” this article summarizes a recent Finnish government report about our over-the-cliff moment:


    Government Agency Warns Global Oil Industry Is on the Brink of a Meltdown

    • ellipsis February 10, 2020 at 10:38 am #

      Reports are just so 20th century. It’s prop(aganda) until you drop these days all the way down.

      • FallenHero February 10, 2020 at 10:46 am #

        Yeah, same with ‘studies’.

        In other news I think corona virus is about to rock the world pretty hard. ‘Just the flu bro’.

        • City_of_76 February 10, 2020 at 11:07 am #

          @FallenHero — thanks for your studied opinion, brah.

          • K-Dog February 10, 2020 at 2:53 pm #

            No wall too tall and a dome to call home. <- click here

            The corona virus won't be a game changer. It won't kill enough people to qualify as a die-off.

          • K-Dog February 10, 2020 at 2:56 pm #

            I took us to Goodwin’s law on the first page of comment I did. I’m sorry about that but, the ghost of Albert Speer was near I fear.

        • WayfaringStranger February 10, 2020 at 4:57 pm #

          Ya. It can mutate away from being relevant to humans, or it can be revealed to have been engineered to be lethal for a genetic subset of humans and “just the flu, bro” for the rest…or here we go.
          Due to the aerosolization I lean heavily towards the Here We Go. And males, wash your hands more, maybe go easy on the breathing too. nCoV might just be the wokest meanest feminist of all. I know exactly what a woman-ruled planet would be like, and no it would not be better.

      • City_of_76 February 10, 2020 at 11:13 am #

        The authors point out what Jim has said for years: the global economy has been propped up by cheap money in the form of debt since 2008 (a.k.a. quantitative easing), and the bubble-like growth sustained the past decade is fast approaching a pop. At root is the decline of cheap energy, mainly petroleum, which has become ever more expensive to acquire.

        Kind of like what Gail Tverberg has been writing about on her blog, Our Finite World.

        • snagglepuss February 10, 2020 at 12:43 pm #

          An interesting article, but the absence of a reference to Venezuelan oil reserves a little surprising. Then again, I read Maduro is turning over the keys to their oil operations to the Russians and the Chinese. That should ruffle a few feathers in Washington and Langley. Putin is everywhere. He doesn’t tweet, he acts.

        • K-Dog February 10, 2020 at 3:05 pm #

          She wrote this about the corona virus. The thing that is harder to see is that reacting too vigorously can have a hugely detrimental impact on the world economy.

          But but butttt…….. is that really such a bad thing? Carbon emissions go down in recessions, don’t they?

          Which side is Gail on? Does she not see that the eve of destruction is as nigh as Trump’s wall will is high.

          • ellipsis February 10, 2020 at 3:27 pm #

            Gail’s an actuary, so she sees thing in a rather peculiar manner. A frumpy old Spock type.

    • Epicur February 10, 2020 at 2:30 pm #

      From the report: “Rather than global oil supply being constrained simply by the volume of oil deposits in the ground, as conventional peak oil theory assumes, the report says that it is instead constrained “by the number of economically viable projects available to be developed at a low enough production cost.” ”

      I had a professor in Mining school laugh and tell us that would be the future over 40 years ago.

      The journos were stupid then and they are still stupid now.

      • K-Dog February 10, 2020 at 3:06 pm #

        Correction. peak oil is not a ‘theory’ and never was.

        • benr February 11, 2020 at 8:23 am #

          Well we do live in a finite world in an infinite universe.

  2. Pucker February 10, 2020 at 10:17 am #

    Mayor Pete invested $42,000 bucks in that dodgey App to count the vote in the Iowa Caucuses. What was the name of the dubious surveillance App development company that Jeffrey Epstein and former Isr…aeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak had invested in?

    The media is pushing Pete after the Iowa Caucuses scam.

    The C…IA, the DNC, and the Billionaires are investing in vote-rigging software Apps and media-manipulating and perception-manipulating AI. They’re obviously insane….

    The Americans need to get a Kung Fu Grip on Reality.

    “ An artificial intelligence analysis of Friday night’s Democratic debate picked former Mayor Pete Buttigieg as the clear winner and said that voters believe he can beat President Trump.
    The AI model Polly, a market research and predictive tool from Advanced Symbolics Inc., analyzed the debates and measured a sample of 11,227 New Hampshire voters to find that the former South Bend, Indiana, mayor achieved his goal in the debate of convincing people he could beat the president.”

    • RIB February 10, 2020 at 10:22 am #

      I doubt Mayor Pete is going to get much play from the black/Latino crowd.

      • K-Dog February 10, 2020 at 3:08 pm #

        No they don’t care for the future first lady.

        • ellipsis February 10, 2020 at 3:31 pm #

          That would make for some awkward moments, wouldn’t it? Could the first alleged gay sex scandal be far behind?

          • K-Dog February 11, 2020 at 2:38 am #

            It would suck.

          • Majella February 12, 2020 at 2:11 am #

            K-Dog

            Exquisite.

    • Pucker February 10, 2020 at 10:25 am #

      Is Bernie Sanders the next Mohammad Mossadeq?

      Bernie’s call to nationalize the US health insurance system may be akin to Mossadeq’s call to nationalize British oil companies in Iran resulting in the C…IA’s overthrow of Mossadeq in Operation Ajax in 1953?

      I wonder what the code name of the pro-Pete “OP” to sideline Bernie Sanders is called?

      • hmuller February 10, 2020 at 12:42 pm #

        Operation “Alter Cocker Farshvindn”. Yiddish for the grumpy old man disappears.

        • AKlein February 10, 2020 at 1:07 pm #

          Hilarious!
          However, I would suggest that Sanders plan to nationalize the US health insurance system may be the only alternative to utter anarchy. The current “system” (dare I call it that) is fundamentally unsustainable, and is ultimately on a collision course with reality. However, there are so many handsome incomes directly consequential to the maintenance of the status quo, reality’s message is unlikely to be factored in to any apolitical decision making, until after the last dollar has been extracted from Patient n’s trembling hands. Then it will be a “what’s next AKA ‘Ground Zero’ ” moment.

    • ellipsis February 10, 2020 at 10:35 am #

      Won’t be long before the election itself is all AI, followed soon thereafter of course by all AI “candidates” and then simply AI governance with no pretense of elections involved at all. Not sure it could possibly be any worse than it is now.

      • K-Dog February 10, 2020 at 3:18 pm #

        It already is all done by AI. AI has already convinced you that getting 6000 more votes than anyone else is different than winning in a primary. If real people had spun such a fable you would call it corrupt. Nobody has. AI do the dirty work and algorithms indisputably become progress. Only a few murmurs of outrage are heard.

        Trump can’t hire Cambridge Analytica like he did last time but this time he won’t have too. All he has to do is wait for Sleepy too get picked and then he’s got another four years. He’ll have a Mainbridge Fanalitica for free.

  3. malthuss February 10, 2020 at 10:18 am #

    This is for BRH and Janos. enjoy.

    https://twitter.com/AsapSCIENCE/status/1222957614344167425

    • BackRowHeckler February 10, 2020 at 7:11 pm #

      That’s par for the course now, Malth. It’s hard to find something that IS NOT racist, including viruses emanating from China.

      There’s a New Yorker article today stating still too many whites at the Oscar’s. Apparently even 1 is too many, appears to be the LA and NYC attitude now.

      Brh

  4. RIB February 10, 2020 at 10:20 am #

    The only “woke” in the “World Made By Hand”, is going to be a “woke” after 12 hours of back breaking labor, minimal amount of caloric intact, and no episodes of Masked Singer, floating around in the “wokester’s” brain. Oh by the way, you can forget about a culture not dominating by the physical strong. Sorry ladies…enjoy your trip back into the 1890s….if you’re lucky

    • RIB February 10, 2020 at 10:20 am #

      culture not dominated….damn auto correct

    • shotho February 10, 2020 at 10:27 am #

      I’ve often wondered if there will be a pendulum swing so far toward male rage and reassertion of will that women will be sorely abused in the process. Feminism has set up a situation that could place women in serious peril if that pendulum swings too far the other direction. Not something to be desired, but give the nature of mankind, something to be predicted.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 10, 2020 at 11:05 am #

        It will hurt so good. Remember the hit song, You make me want to wear dresses. Like that, shoggoth. Nothing so bad – as long as they stay with us. Go Black or Muslim? Well that’s a whole different thing, right?

      • Ron Anselmo February 10, 2020 at 11:18 am #

        Already happening.

    • abbybwood February 10, 2020 at 2:22 pm #

      I love baking bread and pies and if I didn’t actually have to chop the chicken’s head off myself I could whip up a damn tasty pot of chicken and dumplings.

      That would make me popular with the men folk, so I think I could manage quite nicely.

      • CancelMyCard February 10, 2020 at 10:05 pm #

        Well, you know, the saying was “The way to a man’s heart is through his stomach”.

        These days, the way to his heart is through another organ entirely.

  5. malthuss February 10, 2020 at 10:21 am #

    Presidential? All millionaires or Billionaires, except Howdy Doody.

    – the howdy doody double
    – Stalin’s right hand man who honeymooned in Leningrad
    – Lenin’s right hand school ma’rm who says she’s an Indian
    – the guy who forgets where he is and sniff’s little girls’ hair
    – the guy giving 10 grand to people who don’t like to work
    – Amy somebody
    – The billionaire who hates Trump so much he may explode
    – The itsy bitsy guy with 70 billion who is buying the election

    • SG-71 February 10, 2020 at 11:47 am #

      I’m voting for Amy somebody…the least problematic.

      She’s, by the way, a former prosecutor for the county that houses Minneapolis (her daddy’s old position), and then a Senator.

      She’s just a regular gal from Wayzata High School (a top 5 statewide ranked school district) and worked her way up the MN DFL graft of county, then state, office.

      Being a resident of said school district for my first 18 years of life, she legitimately has no animus towards anyone by virtue of growing up in the safest space ever for affluent white people. Her naivete makes her trusting and open to all. But she’s not regular, she doesn’t “know you” like she says. Her life was/has been easy.

      She’ll get run over by the indecent & corrupt people of the globe.

      She’s the soft landing, but assured Federal collapse, candidate.

      Though she has none of the skills necessary to be a fighter for America, she might be the least corrupted. Jimmy Carter 2.0

      • SG-71 February 10, 2020 at 1:38 pm #

        I have an error… Amy’s dad was not a Henn. County prosecutor. He was a journalist for the local rag Star Tribune. Which also made her path to winning the local races easier.

        • malthuss February 10, 2020 at 2:10 pm #

          okay

        • abbybwood February 10, 2020 at 2:30 pm #

          I will vote for Bernie in the California primary in the hopes he can sweep Super Tuesday and go on to get the nomination.

          I want to see debates between Trump and Sanders in the fall. At least they would be damn entertaining!

          Plus I want to see how far the DNC will go to try to stop a candidate chosen by the people and not “the party” poobahs.

      • ellipsis February 10, 2020 at 3:22 pm #

        She’ll get run over by the indecent & corrupt people of the globe.

        She’s the soft landing, but assured Federal collapse, candidate.

        LOL! Thanks for that ringing endorsement! It might be fun watching her get consumed by the DC piranha at that! Kind of like putting kittens in a microwave.

        • CancelMyCard February 10, 2020 at 10:09 pm #

          “Kind of like putting kittens in a microwave.”

          You are thoroughly disgusting.

  6. shotho February 10, 2020 at 10:22 am #

    It is probably overly simplistic to try to summarize the failures of post-modernism on hyper-complexity. That is more the symptom of where we are than the cause, even though hyper-complexity might be the straw that broke the camel’s back.
    Mr. K’s comment that “collapse due to over-investments in hyper-complexity” is absolutely true and doesn’t really need to stand as the ultimate ’cause’. Example – I volunteer to help with tax preparation in a cost-free program for the elderly. It is simply astounding to see, year after year, the growing complexity of the system, all done under the name of simplification. Sooner or later, the whole system will collapse, because it must.

    • ellipsis February 10, 2020 at 10:30 am #

      Congrats on the tax preparation volunteer gig. Truly a thankless task. I tried that a few years back and ran screaming into the night.

    • K-Dog February 10, 2020 at 3:26 pm #

      Hyper complexity correlates with high EROEI. As EROEI falls there won’t be any surplus to support the complexity that high EROEI built.

      There is nothing overly simplistic about it. Big meaningful truths are never complicated. Yet obfuscation is a common tactic which exaggerates complexity so to confuse. Obfuscation should always be an alert that something might not be right.

      • ellipsis February 10, 2020 at 3:33 pm #

        Trouble is, those facts have been successfully obfuscated.

        • K-Dog February 11, 2020 at 2:41 am #

          We could discuss the situation but our discussion would soon become obfu………..

  7. RIB February 10, 2020 at 10:23 am #

    Mea culpa..mea maxima culpa, Jim. Never been first, didn’t kow you were offended by it

    • jeff2002 February 10, 2020 at 10:35 am #

      The point is that it’s juvenile and adds precisely nothing to the conversation.

      • RIB February 10, 2020 at 11:03 am #

        I’m only 12

        • malthuss February 10, 2020 at 2:11 pm #

          u r forgiven. you have the right to be juve

  8. Opie February 10, 2020 at 10:23 am #

    “Classical architecture follows proportioning systems universally found in nature, such as the Fibonacci series of ratios, which are seen in everything from the self-assembly of seashells to the growth of tree branches. Thus, classicism links us to nature and to our own humanity.”

    So true! In my career as a custom woodworker I’m well aware of these rules, and to this day cringe when I see such things as the mantle over mantle that was popular a few years ago. All my progressive friends are always going on and on about the superiority of the metric system and recoil in horror when I tell them I agree for scientific purposes, but for human scaled things our inch/feet measurement system is far superior.Just for instance, you can only divide ten by 2 or five, versus 2,3,4 &6 in our twelve inch per foot system. Very handy when it comes to laying things out. I bet I get roasted for the heresy,but you’re spot on in this essay.

    • City_of_76 February 10, 2020 at 10:31 am #

      @Opie – that’s a good point, about the English system being somewhat more “humane” as it’s related to things that actually matter in our daily life. A foot is a foot, close enough for any adult to measure with, at least roughly. A pound is a full plate of whole food — eat it and you’re full.

    • sophia February 10, 2020 at 10:42 am #

      On the contrary, I once read through some very thoughtful arguments in favor of the English measurement system and decided those arguments had a lot of merit. And was glad, because I like it anyway. The English should return to it. Very disloyal of them to leave us Americans to hold down the fort by ourselves.

    • davidveale February 10, 2020 at 10:58 am #

      My physicist grandfather (a real live “rocket scientist”) once noted to me that a mathematical system based upon 12 was far superior to a 10-based system for exactly the reasons you note. It never occurred to me at the time that feet/inches were in fact such a system.

      • Epicur February 10, 2020 at 2:36 pm #

        Same reason we have 24 hours in a day and 360 degrees in a circle. Babylonians were base 12.

        • Epicur February 10, 2020 at 2:42 pm #

          But the metric system is much cleaner when you start dealing in forces and energy. Most of us do (or did, in school) those calcs in metric and then convert the answer back to English units.

          The confusion between force and mass is a booger when you start trying to calculate slugs (which most people have never heard of).

      • Majella February 10, 2020 at 4:19 pm #

        Try dealing with the old English currency system:

        > farthing – a quarter of a penny
        > ha’penny – ha’path or half a penny
        > penny
        > thr’pence – or thr’penny piece, 3 pennies (genuine silver coins from here on until 1935, in NZ anyway)
        > sixpence
        > shilling – 12 pennies
        > florin – 2 shillings or 24 pennies
        > half-crown – 2 shillings & sixpence or 30 pennies
        > crown – 2 half-crowns, or 5 shillings or 60 pennies
        > pound – 20 shillings or 4 crowns, or 240 pennies
        > guinea – 1 pound & 1 shilling or 21 shillings or 252 pennies

        The arithmetic was every child’s nightmare.

        • Majella February 10, 2020 at 6:37 pm #

          So, by age 7, the likes of GA & I were expected to be able to solve something like this:

          Nine pounds, eight shillings and sixpence ha’penny,
          plus
          twelve pounds, nineteen shillings and threepence-ha’penny-farthing

          £ 9. 8/6½
          £12.19/3¾

          Adds up to…
          Twenty-two pounds, seven shillings and tenpence-farthing:

          £22. 7/10¼

          Subtraction was equally as challenging…

          • Majella February 10, 2020 at 6:38 pm #

            so, yes – I’m all for the decimal system, introduced in NZ a year after Australia (1967).

    • brb February 10, 2020 at 11:29 am #

      Opie, you are absolutely correct about the inferiority of the metric system.

      I will add that it is all about proportion. I’m an architect who was raised, studied and worked in the United States before moving abroad and now use metric by default. Having been accustomed to the rigor of “masonry units”, I was initially very frustrated with metric because there seemed to be zero guidelines. A 10 meter long wall sound great…until you try to place windows and need to divide by 3. The result is the dilemma of dealing with a number like 3.33… meters. Ugh.

      Eventually, I figured out a workaround by trying to design everything on the basis of a 60cm grid (which is also approximately 2 feet). Not perfect but does help me find balance and proportionality within my designs now.

      But the European trained architects, especially the younger generation appear hopeless to me. They crank out designs with totally random dimensions. All they care about is quickly stacking up some blocks and then using fancy rendering software to make it look cool.

      • sophia February 10, 2020 at 12:54 pm #

        Interesting. My husband is from Europe, living here since ’97 and still struggles to understand spoken English. A wonderfully handy boomer, he recently admitted to me that when it comes to building it is easier to use the American measures and measuring tape. That is strong praise considering he probably had to be rewired to use it.

        • Nightowl February 10, 2020 at 1:28 pm #

          I can’t agree. I am an American living in Germany and I have done my share of projects on my old cottage style house (built in ’38), and the metric system is superior, IMO.

          I can’t really understand how a system designed for precision would not be considered preferable when doing an activity the entire point of which is to be precise.

          • Cargill February 10, 2020 at 2:55 pm #

            I agree.

            Being an Australian of a certain age, I was entirely educated in the old Imperial system, and this was entirely metricated beginning in 1975. Metric is far superior.

            And Australia went the whole hog in half a generation … starting with decimal currency (1966), and then Celsius in temperature, and then everything.

            We didn’t get a little bit pregnant – as happened in the UK, and to some extent Canada – the conversion was full-blown.

            And while there are some advantages to having a base 12 system, and a base 60 one, they are nowhere near compelling enough to take away from the vast superiority of the metric system.

            And it’s not just about a carpenter dividing up a length of wood, or even an architect fitting three windows into 10 metres – the metric system rationalises and makes easier thousands of measures in every field.

            However we do lack some “human” scale words like foot and inch, but slang will evolve.

          • brb February 11, 2020 at 11:44 am #

            It is more about proportion than precision. For architecture with traditional building trades 1/16th of an inch is plenty precise.

            Moreover, too much precision can actually be a bad thing given the role of craftsmanship in tradition building trades like masonry and wood framing. The savvy architect respects these trades and the imperial measurement system allows for just the right amount of slack.

            Spend some time in an architectural archive. An old building from circa 1900 might have as little as 12 sheets of drawings and the built results are incredible. Today, architects & engineers produce drawing sets with hundreds of pages and the results are the schlock that JHK often complains about.

            Now granted—personal preferencs aside—metric does have some advantages. As robots become more prevalent throughout the construction process then the architect will need those extra bits of precision that metric is better apt to provide.

            But to consider metric significantly better than imperial units for architecture is rather bizarre as long as architecture is primarily built by humans for humans.

    • neon sky February 10, 2020 at 12:31 pm #

      It was arch conservative Ronald Reagen who put a stop to the change over to the metric system back in the 1980’s.

      • Cargill February 10, 2020 at 3:18 pm #

        Thomas Jefferson tried hard to go metric in the very early days – but he couldn’t overcome the troglodytes and little thinkers of his own day.

        • Majella February 10, 2020 at 4:22 pm #

          …but managed to get a decimal currency established.

        • BackRowHeckler February 10, 2020 at 7:38 pm #

          Oh yeah the ‘Big Thinkers’ measure distance in centimeters, meters, kilometers etc, the little thinkers measure distance in feet, yard, mile … is that about the size of it? Don’t tell me, you’re a Big Thinker.

          Brh

          • Cargill February 10, 2020 at 9:59 pm #

            I’m not sure the size of my thinking is relevant – or even measurable – but I do consider the metric system so far in advance of the old imperial units, that it is inarguable, really.

            I say this as someone who has been fully immersed in both.

            It is such a blessing to be free of gallons (which one?), pints (which one?), ounces, fluid ounces (which one?), furlongs, three-eighths of an inch, acre-feet, foot-pounds, hundredweight, bushels, pecks – let alone rods, roods, and perches.

          • GreenAlba February 13, 2020 at 8:31 am #

            You’re not free of the ‘chain’ (an ‘acre’s breadth’), though, Cargill – it remains with us in the length of a cricket pitch.

            20.1168 metres just doesn’t have the same ring to it as 22 yards. 🙂

  9. RaymondR February 10, 2020 at 10:24 am #

    Excellent post JHK, I was hoping that you would comment on the Golden Golem’s directive on architecture. Thanks!

  10. ellipsis February 10, 2020 at 10:28 am #

    Nice to see Mr K posting something a little more aligned with the central theme of this blog again!

  11. sophia February 10, 2020 at 10:29 am #

    Wow and wow. That San Fran federal building is a doozy. I’m giving it first prize.

    President Trump is working on price transparency in medicine, which if he pulls it off will be the best thing a president has done for the people in many decades. And if he can reverse the trend of ugly, dispiriting buildings that will be the second.

  12. newworld February 10, 2020 at 10:30 am #

    Best thing posted to the internet today. Though I do admit to liking the proposed Sail building for San Diego.

    • Cargill February 10, 2020 at 3:24 pm #

      Yes – there is an element of baby-and-bathwater – in both Trump’s executive order, and James’ disdain for almost every building put up since 1913.

      I wonder what he thinks about the Sydney Opera House – would it be built today? With Sydney as my home town, I can’t imagine the city | harbour without its beautiful presence.

      Image here: https://cdn.britannica.com/96/100196-050-C92064E0/Sydney-Opera-House-Port-Jackson.jpg

      • Majella February 10, 2020 at 4:30 pm #

        The Sargeant Art Gallery, New Plymouth (NZ)

        https://teara.govt.nz/en/interactive/21721/iconic-buildings-in-new-zealand

        The Railway Station, Dunedin

        https://minikiwiland.co.nz/info.php?ID=32

        Otago Boys High School, Dunedin

        https://minikiwiland.co.nz/info.php?ID=724

        Original Bank of New Zealand, Wellington (pity about the added penthouse!)

        https://minikiwiland.co.nz/info.php?ID=335

      • Nightowl February 10, 2020 at 5:16 pm #

        LIke Falling Water, referenced elsewhere here, I think the SOH is another example of a building that benefits largely from its surroudings and the space it occupies relative to what is around it.

        Place it in the middle of the city and it is just another modern monstrosity.

        • Cargill February 10, 2020 at 10:05 pm #

          “Place it in the middle of the city and it is just another modern monstrosity.”

          Or the converse might apply: if you have a great site – especially a once-in-a-century one – then design and build something that does it justice.

          You could arguably put the Eiffel Tower, Statue of Liberty, Parthenon, Alhambra Palace,and a few others, in this category. Been going on for a while … at least since the pyramids of Egypt.

          • Nightowl February 11, 2020 at 4:27 am #

            Out of your examples, I think in terms of spectacular sites, the site of the SOH is really the only one that qualifies. The rest were either mundane, or selected for obvious practical reasons.

            And that just leads me back to square one.

      • newworld February 11, 2020 at 7:44 am #

        One suggestion instead of pretending to be Greeks or Romans with phony facades I would suggest going around and looking at the style of post offices built during the Depression.

        I grew up in a small farming community in N. Illinois before it became another shitty suburb of Chicago and our post office was marvelous including the WPA commie art of peasant labor harvesting wheat. What was crass commercial art in the 30s was touching to a farm kid in the 70s.

  13. whatever2020 February 10, 2020 at 10:30 am #

    Simply the extent to which the likes of the New York Times are bent out of shape about this really, by itself, says a lot. Inner ugliness for the cause of outward ugliness. Touching.

  14. BackRowHeckler February 10, 2020 at 10:33 am #

    “Trump ordered government buildings to be designed in the classical style”.

    President Roosevelt did a similar thing in 1905, directing American coinage to be to be redesigned in, again, a classical style. He commissioned distinguished sculpture Augustus St-Gaudens to carry out the work, results being some of the most beautiful coins in history.

    Incidentally, the studio where St-Gaudens lived and worked is a museum, left pretty much intact from when he died in 1907. (you cross the Connecticut River on a covered bridge in Windsor, Vt to get to it.

    Brh

  15. enjim February 10, 2020 at 10:35 am #

    …”National bureaucracies will shrink, if they don’t vanish altogether, and so will the buildings that house their operations.”….

    One can only wish.

    • draupnir February 10, 2020 at 1:33 pm #

      You haven’t been paying attention to what is going on in China. Governments are going to fall over this virus or simply lose control and be unable to reestablish it in any effective fashion. It appears much worse than the 1918 pandemic. Not only more contagious, but more virulent. Overnight, that cruise ship quarantined in Yokohama has reported another 66 confirmed cases, going to 136 cases, nearly doubling the affected from yesterday, and they are only testing the symptomatic.

      While many fall ill with mild symptoms and recover, about 25% of the afflicted require hospitalization, and of those, many need an ICU level of care. Healthcare workers are catching it in droves. We have about 95,000 ICU beds in this country and they are pretty much all in use all the time. How long before our healthcare system is overwhelmed? Some patients even require ECMO support to replace the functions of the heart and lungs in really severe cases. The mortality rate is estimated to be in excess of 4%, and we aren’t even getting true numbers out of China, which may or may not be due to lack of testing kits. However, there has been a large surge in sulfur dioxide levels over Wuhan. You can see it from space. This indicates burning of organic material, and there are rumors of the uncounted dead being cremated, so who knows what the actual mortality rate may be? The course of the illness can last as long as three weeks.

      The draconian measures China has taken were too little, too late. The fact that they took such unheard-of measures is, in itself, alarming. There are now so many people in quarantine in China that it exceeds the population of the USA. They cancelled the equivalent of Christmas. They shut down business. They voluntarily chose to take an enormous hit to their GDP, and are risking social unrest, anathema to the CCP. People are quite angry now and blaming the government. The evidence is clear that it has spread outward from China, with evidence of human-to-human contagion outside of China. Simple extrapolation leads me to believe we are all in for a very rough time.

      • elysianfield February 10, 2020 at 2:17 pm #

        draupnir,
        A very rough time, indeed. Thank you. I am concerned as much with the “recovery” of patients…whatever that means. I think the extra ordinary measures taken by China might reflect realities regarding the persistence of the virus in “recovered” patients more than the percentile of those who succumb.

        There is something sinister in the lack of tracking information of those “recovered”. What do we know?

        nothing

        • draupnir February 10, 2020 at 3:49 pm #

          For the sake of argument, I am going to go with recovered means what it says. However, that does not preclude sequelae, which are not being officially reported, but are rumored to include ostensibly permanent heart and lung damage. Also, apparently the immunity acquired is not permanent, like with the measles, but more like with a cold, so you can catch it more than once, or another iteration of it. The thing is also mutating (in one family of four, all had slightly different versions of the virus). The Spanish flu came in three waves. This virus is probably going to circle the globe not once, but several times.

      • virgil February 10, 2020 at 3:56 pm #

        Long time follower here. First post. Read the long emergency over 15 years ago and it really hit home for me. Our global supply chain dependance on Chinese goods suddenly seems like not such a good idea, self sustaining communitys as suggested by Jim seems so logical in light of what’s currently going down.

      • Majella February 10, 2020 at 4:32 pm #

        Indeed.

        https://youtu.be/2WyfVnL5_AM

  16. par4 February 10, 2020 at 10:41 am #

    I want more gargoyles.

    • RIB February 10, 2020 at 11:05 am #

      This remark is juvenile and adds nothing to the conversation

      • Farmer McGregor February 10, 2020 at 12:04 pm #

        He’s only 7.

      • malthuss February 10, 2020 at 2:13 pm #

        I disagree.

        • K-Dog February 10, 2020 at 3:33 pm #

          1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 …

          Yeah I agree with you. Transexual demons pissing off the roof of a post office would freak me out. The stone stature of an INS agent perched in the spandrel of the main door would make everyone nervous. Alien and citizen alike.

      • malthuss February 10, 2020 at 2:13 pm #

        yes–I know…several talks at utube have been visited by me.

      • sophia February 10, 2020 at 7:49 pm #

        So now I understand the hatred of Trump. It’s not because of his personality or qualifications, it is simply that he isn’t one of the reptiles.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 12:46 pm #

        Yes, you are correct as far as the Vatican Two Church goes: Completely infiltrated by its enemies – the Protestants, Liberals, Satanists, and yes, the Jews. All of the Vatican Two Popes have been very proud of “their” rabbi advisors.

        Just so, Judaism was overturned by Talmudism. We are allies against the Darkness if you but see and repent of your pride. A rabbi in modern parlance is one who is learned in the Talmud. Before you spoke glowingly of them while eschewing the Book itself. And that doesn’t make any sense.

  17. Cavepainter February 10, 2020 at 10:44 am #

    “Oh say can you see” JHK, parallel between what you’ve reference this morning to the rising millions moving into HOA “managed” communities? “HOA” communities are essentially “secessionist states”. Quasi democratic for having elected members of a management body referred to as a “board”, but critically lacking in the mechanisms crafted into our national government for preventing either a tyranny of majority or an autocratic minority.

    “Community management companies” offer a façade of legality for boards’ imposition of “rules” that are (often as not) purely arbitrary in that prohibited are materially inconsequential and otherwise innocuous acts by/among community member exercising “pursuit of happiness”.

    In this sense the for-profit management industry constitutes a private police force “strong-arm” on behalf of board bias — but paid for through community membership fees and the more relevant expense of infringed rights of national citizenship.

    In essence, these aren’t organic communities of adults able to exercise discretionary accommodation of one another’s practical needs, but rather more like children in a sandbox requiring a pseudo nanny (management company) to reign order upon them.
    sensible

    • ellipsis February 10, 2020 at 11:00 am #

      Named after the guy who “invented” Gatorade, no less. Let me see, sodium, sugar, water, and artificial color and flavor. He must have busted a brain cell or two coming up with that one. Better to honor the guy who marketed that dreck. Now that was some genius.

      • Nightowl February 10, 2020 at 1:29 pm #

        “It’s got what plants crave.”

        • Farmer McGregor February 10, 2020 at 8:21 pm #

          LOL Nightowl, wish I’d been the one to say that!

  18. zekesdad February 10, 2020 at 10:46 am #

    In my view, cities with an abundance of classically designed buildings such as London, or Washington are wonderful places. But, they are a reflection of the shared values of the societies that built them. Firmness, commodity, and delight as well as permanence, beauty, and appropriateness are values that have pretty much been discarded by architects since the end of World War II. The nihilism, chaos, and incoherence that infects so much of the arts, including architecture is simply a reflection of the zeitgeist. There are however a handful of celebrity and lesser known architects who working against the grain, view classicism as a living tradition. Among them are: Leon Krier, Andres Duany, Robert Adam, and Robert A.M. Stern. If people of that caliber are given commissions for major civic buildings, I think that would be great, but I think we could just as likely see a rash of kitschy, badly done civic versions of Trump Tower. Would such buildings be better than the brutalist and soul-less “boxitecture” of so many federal buildings? I don’t know.

  19. akmofo February 10, 2020 at 10:47 am #

    Modern architecture as expressed by the German-Jewish “Bauhaus Style” or the “International style” is clean simple practical humane and most elegant and beautiful. Tel Aviv, Haifa, and South Miami of the early 20th Century are beautiful examples of such.

    https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/how-did-tel-aviv-become-beacon-stunning-bauhaus-architecture

    The current examples you site, James, are abhorrent commie satanic caricatures that are in no way related. They are examples of post-modern apocalyptic satanism whose origin is in the Vatican which aims to negate the Enlightenment.

    As to Roman architecture, it is perverse pompous imperial egotism and it has no place in humane society. It is good that we left it behind. Learn and know who and what you are fighting for, James. Don’t be fooled by their satanic machinations.

    • Nightowl February 10, 2020 at 1:33 pm #

      The Bauhaus style is acceptable in my book, but only as it tries to integrate the natural world to some degree via its focus on naturally lit rooms.

      But at the end of the day, if you compare it to anything from an earlier era over here, it is downright ugly by comparison.

      The font is great tho. Germans have the best fonts.

      • akmofo February 10, 2020 at 3:13 pm #

        German British and North American Victorian/Georgian architecture and “city planning” is the most depressing and repulsive of all, to my eyes. Of the “pre-modern”, but not really, French Napoleonic architecture and urban planning by Baron Haussmann, is very good and is only surpassed by the Spanish “superblock”.

        My personal preference is for a modern mix of the traditional “weaved” European urbanism with the more American tower urbanism, so that what you get is mix of low rise (4-7 floors) and medium rise (11-22 floors) building weaved into superblocks on a loose grid. You see these now mainly in new modern neighborhoods in Spain Germany and Israel, with the most important condition being commercial space and programming on the bottom floors.

    • Cavepainter February 10, 2020 at 4:06 pm #

      The Bauhaus Manifesto, published by Walter Gropius in 1919, was another one of the secular gospels multiplying in direct opposite ratio to the decline of the mystical/prophetic gospel due to the onslaught of scientific understanding. Like all Utopian gospels of the secular type it promises its version of a Biblical rapture. Reading it you’ll find it too was supposed to liberate Gropuis’ version of the common man, leveling class distinction no less in the arts than what Karl Marx envisioned through all society. Another shaggy God story, essentially.

      • akmofo February 10, 2020 at 10:22 pm #

        Karl Marx didn’t envision anything but anarchy and destruction. And that’s what the anti-Enlightenment idiots got and will continue to get following his Vatican prescription.

        Architecture reflects who and what you are. When you’re so molested and ravaged by anti-Enlightenment Vatican pirates that don’t give a shit, your architecture will reflect it, and indeed it does.

        There’s only one way out, Cavepainter, and it involves our understanding and infinite gratitude that our “shaggy God” gave us the breath of life and afforded us the freedom to be as stupid and callous as some of us are.

        Weaving through the mix rises of Rothschild Blvd in Tel Aviv: https://youtu.be/568dpm9xfCk

        When you get money, I hope you manage to do more with it than painting caves.

        • Cavepainter February 11, 2020 at 6:44 am #

          Hmmm,….don’t know about “more with it than painting caves”; usually the process of determining whether or not one’s urge is inspiration toward looming awakening or simple impulsive behavior involves dedicated work. Guess I’ll get back to my cave wall painting surface with hope I can bring forth something as trans-formative to human consciousness as Beethoven’s 9th or Copeland’s “Fanfare for the Common Man”. Something aside from Andrew Sullivan’s “America’s New Religions”.

          • akmofo February 11, 2020 at 11:14 am #

            Again, that’s not transformative, that’s willful blindness cowardice and callousness. It also demonstrates infinite ingratitude for the breath of life afforded us. I say this to you, as I say this to me, and I say this to all of us.

  20. joejoepelligrino February 10, 2020 at 10:51 am #

    Many people know much more about architecture than I, certainly Jim included, but I always thought that Art nouveau/ Jugendstil, was the attempt to go back to nature looking for cues on aesthetics and that this was a conscious rejection to classicism/Greco-Roman influences, which were based more on an ideal that mainly existed either on Olympus or in the Attic mind.

    Regardless, and putting aside the reticence of our elites to build buildings that aren’t ugly, even if they had the inclination, they might lack the ability these days. A lot of skills are very much use-it-or-lose-it, as people are finding out now that Notre Dame burnt.

  21. davidveale February 10, 2020 at 10:54 am #

    Probably one of the few times I’ll think Trump had a good idea. Modern architecture seems to be obsessed with throwing away 5,000 years of accumulated wisdom that accumulated for very good reason. In my experience, “modern” construction tends not to age well at all (either physically or aesthetically.

  22. James Kuehl February 10, 2020 at 10:57 am #

    While managing a trade show for an architectural firm I stayed at a Trump hotel in Atlantic City. Everything about it was ostentatious and garish. It was vulgar, heavy-handed whorehouse all the way. He has horrendous taste. Here’s hoping that if Trump makes decisions on architectural aesthetics on our behalf he breaks precedent and draws on others for advice about style.

    • Nightowl February 10, 2020 at 1:35 pm #

      I generally don’t like his personal taste, but some properties are quite nice. The work he did on the old post office building in DC (now a hotel) was impressive.

      He also redid a golf course I where I used to do landscaping in the summer during my college days. Nice work there, too.

      • James Kuehl February 10, 2020 at 2:18 pm #

        I have not visited the DC post office reno. I read that Trump showed uncharacteristic restraint with some gaudy chandeliers and his signature gold finishes on the trusses, handrails, and elevators. I know nothing about golf courses, although I hear he cheats at the game (like he does at everything else including his marriages).

        • Nightowl February 10, 2020 at 2:23 pm #

          For such a cheat, it seems odd that a team of 20 Lawfare nutters with unlimited purview and budget could not find a single crime or infraction an in investigation lasting over 2 years.

          Best stick to criticism of bath fixtures, eh?

          • James Kuehl February 10, 2020 at 4:39 pm #

            I will criticize this bigoted grifter as I see fit, thank you very much. I’ll grant you that recent attempts by democrats to prosecute him were feeble. But his history is fraught with malfeasance. Trump was forced to pay more than $2 million in court-ordered damages to eight different charities for illegally misusing charitable funds at the Trump Foundation for political purposes: Before that he was slapped with a $25 million settlement his fraudulent university. Take a gander at the 1975 consent decree against him and his daddy for violating the Fair Housing Act.

            For condescending to me I’ll return the swipe by recommending that, as one who professes to be a professional editor, you might consider getting a Chicago Manual of Style and learning how to use it.

          • Nightowl February 10, 2020 at 5:00 pm #

            No cap after the colon if only a single sentence follows.

            CMS 101.

            Feel free to show me how he misused funds. Be detailed.

            Assuming we get that far, post an example of his bigotry. With hard evidence.

            The floor is yours.

          • James Kuehl February 10, 2020 at 5:44 pm #

            I can’t post below as the thread hit it’s reply limit.

            The colon was a typo. It should have been a period. Good eye.

            Here is a link to the Associated Press story detailing Trump’s charity fraud: https://apnews.com/635b828ded6813ea66783869f32876c5

            And here is a link to the consent order for UNITED STATES V. FRED C. TRUMP, DONALD TRUMP
            and TRUMP MANAGEMENT, INC., Civil Action. No. 73 C 1529 against him for discrimination in housing. His organization used coded notes to deny non-whites the fair opportunity to rent his properties: https://www.clearinghouse.net/chDocs/public/FH-NY-0024-0034.pdf

          • Nightowl February 10, 2020 at 6:24 pm #

            Eh, you also forgot to write “being” and you need a comma after “me” in the same sentence. I can lend you my CMS if needed?

            Article is scant on details in the charity case, but I found this most interesting: “Scarpulla gave Trump credit for making good on his pledge to give $2.8 million of the money raised to veterans’ organizations.

            Instead of fining him that amount, as the attorney general’s office wanted, the judge trimmed it to $2 million and rejected a demand for punitive damages and interest.” Surely nothing political to see here, particularly as AP repeats the NPC community talking point “abuse of power.” LOL

            The housing item is a favorite in the Shareblue community. Never mentioned ofc, is that is was based entirely on allegations and the case was settled with no admission of guilt whatsoever.

            For such a discriminating individual, I would have thought you would have mentioned that.

            Tell me more about the President’s “crimes.” I await descriptions and hard evidence.

          • HapMan February 10, 2020 at 8:21 pm #

            Nightowl,

            Uniquely among the regular cats on this board, your posts overwhelmingly fall into one of two categories: (1) posting links that goof on Democratic politicians, and (2) picking at any negative but otherwise unremarkable assertions or opinions that get expressed about Trump (generally by demanding detailed “proof” ad infinitum – which is not really how this all works).

            Very intensive focus. Why?

          • James Kuehl February 10, 2020 at 8:43 pm #

            I was using condescend as a verb. I use commas sparingly and with structural purpose, not merely to indicate a pause in speech. I feel the same about scare quotes, of which I notice you are quite fond.

            Trump violated campaign finance law by having his attorney use campaign funds to pay off his mistress. Trump, as usual, skated while his former attorney is doing time for it.

            Enriching himself by having visiting diplomats and his own secret service detail pay him to stay at his hotels violates the emoluments clause of the constitution.

            The Government Accountability Office declared the White House violated federal law when it withheld security aid to Ukraine.

            Maybe he should fulfill his bluster and shoot someone on the street just to prove he can get away with it.

            You’re scrappy. I bet we’d have a lively debate over a cold beer.

            ,

          • Nightowl February 11, 2020 at 4:38 am #

            No, James. You made two additional errors. In your post. Now on to things that matter.

            (1) “Trump violated campaign finance law by having his attorney use campaign funds to pay off his mistress. Trump, as usual, skated while his former attorney is doing time for it.”

            Post your concrete evidence. The exact crime and the indisputable evidence for said crime that backs your assertion.

            “Enriching himself by having visiting diplomats and his own secret service detail pay him to stay at his hotels violates the emoluments clause of the constitution.”

            Post the exact crime and your verificable concrete evidence for the claim. As above.

            “The Government Accountability Office declared the White House violated federal law when it withheld security aid to Ukraine.”

            The OMB disagreed with the GAO, so it does not appear there is any consensus that a “crime” was committed. I wonder, why would you leave that out?

            Here is another opportunity for your to make good on your claim that Trump is a criminal.

            Will you succeed this time?

          • James Kuehl February 11, 2020 at 6:12 am #

            Thanks just the same, but posting a bunch of links to source material and waiting for you to challenge their veracity is pointless. We’re done here. You may now jump up and down, pump you fists in the air, and declare victory.

          • benr February 11, 2020 at 8:33 am #

            @hapman

            I can only answer for myself.

            I held my nose and voted for Trump because Hillary was the and is the crook everyone accuses Trump of being.

            Once he won the media piled on with every lie under the sun.

            Trump is obnoxious in his tweets and insults but the people attacking him are just slightly more and I don’t blame him for fighting back. Take GWBush he was thrown under the bus and NEVER fought back while some of his detractors were right most were just idiots piling on for political reasons.

            Plain and simple Democrat’s hate to lose and their cult of useful idiots are even worse.

          • Nightowl February 11, 2020 at 10:11 am #

            We are done, yes. Better luck next time.

          • HapMan February 11, 2020 at 6:37 pm #

            benr,

            The chief magistrate of the greatest constitutional republic in the world routinely calls his domestic political opposition and/or the press “scum,” “evil” and “enemies of the people,” and variations thereon. This is the language of a tinpot tyrant. The real or perceived slings and arrows of lesser players doesn’t justify it. He’s one who commands the law enforcement apparatus, the IRS and the army. He has followers who hang on his every word. He is the heir of Washington and Lincoln. He has enormous power. Let the foreign intermeddlers on this board cheer him on. For Americans it should be intolerable.

          • Nightowl February 12, 2020 at 4:06 pm #

            And the President is correct, HapMan.

            Mainstream media consists of for-profit corporations that repeat verifiably fake narratives.

            Were the fake news not verifiable, you might have a point.

            But, as so often, you don’t.

          • HapMan February 12, 2020 at 9:21 pm #

            Nightowl,

            The media consists of for-profit corporations? So what?

            The press was for-profit in the 1790s, when that whole freedom of the press thing was ratified into the Constitution. It has been for-profit every minute since.

            All of Trump’s favorite media outlets are for-profit. Kunstler’s website is for-profit. Our entire economic system is for-profit.

            Every American politician from alderman to President, ever, has felt aggrieved by the press and his political opponents.

            Presidents have come and gone, but Trump is the first one to act like a third-rate communist despot.

            That’s why the American people overwhelmingly elected a Democratic House in 2018. And that’s why Trump will be ejected in November. Because Americans don’t want a dictator.

          • Nightowl February 14, 2020 at 3:52 am #

            “So what?”

            The point, HapMan, is that they feed you verifiably fake news in pursuit of the agenda of the ownership class.

            That you gloss over this as though it is meaningless simply demonstrates what I have said in the past. You have the IQ of a houseplant.

          • HapMan February 14, 2020 at 8:12 am #

            Your comment implies that the “ownership class” has an agenda against Trump which they direct the media to advance.

            Trump (and Ryan and McConnell) cut their taxes, passed new high-end tax shelters (eg “Opportunity Zones”), and left intact their favorite tax breaks (eg carried interest loophole, which Trump had promised to repeal). Trump has appointed industry lobbyists to run multiple cabinet agencies. Trump has deregulated.

            I got all of that from reading the newspaper. Is all of that verifiably fake?

          • Nightowl February 14, 2020 at 9:17 am #

            He “read it in a newspaper.” The same newspaper that fed him Russian Collusion, Two-scoopsgate, Koigate, Wikidatesgate, Knobcreekgate, crimeless impeachment, Spygate, and on and on and on.

            And that just a smattering of the porkies you bought into over just the last 24 months. All sans evidence, ofc.

            Any relevant comments?

          • HapMan February 14, 2020 at 9:52 am #

            Feel free to answer my last question.

            I don’t know what the hell you’re talking about with about half of those “gates” so I clearly wasn’t fed them by anybody.

            Since you posit that the media are the agents of the ownership class, and we know that Kim-Jong Trump calls the media the “enemies of the people”, it follows that Trump should be calling the ownership class the enemies of the people as well. Why doesn’t he – and in fact why does he advance tax & regulatory policies (noted above) that directly increase their wealth and power?

    • SW February 11, 2020 at 8:35 am #

      And the other 2 of the 3 already have.

  23. Janos Skorenzy February 10, 2020 at 11:01 am #

    Bravo. A magisterial piece. I couldn’t have said it better myself. In fact, I couldn’t have said it all anent this subject. Simply put, Mr Kunstler has reached the Gold, the Universal Truth, from and in the area of his own specialty.

    He draws the parallels between the human form, classical architecture, and the mathematical universals, such as the golden mean. It’s this capacity for synthesis that is what a University Education in the Liberal Arts is supposed to be all about.

    • ellipsis February 10, 2020 at 3:17 pm #

      You’re on a roll lately. Is this the “Renaissance Janos” we’ve all been anxiously awaiting?

  24. Doc Holliday February 10, 2020 at 11:13 am #

    https://fallingwater.org/

    This may be a blend of the two but I have always enjoyed Frank L. Wright’s architecture, with the above being one of my favorites. The 61 year old home I reside in has many of his ‘characteristics’ including 42″ roof overhangs on a 4/12 pitch. The windows obtain complete sunlight at Winter’s solstice and zero at Summer’s solstice. And, barring hurricanes or tornadoes, the exterior siding is never subjected to running water. Certainly beats most residences built from the 70s through now, that have no overhangs (cost effective for builders) but need constant, and I mean constant, maintenance.

    • Nightowl February 10, 2020 at 1:39 pm #

      TBH, if you took the house out of the woods and plunked it down in the middle of a city, it would lose much of what makes it attractive.

      I always found the concept much more inspiring than the architecture.

  25. what is this February 10, 2020 at 11:16 am #

    Oh my the scourge of Progressiveness that via Social Security probably feeds 80% of the readers of this screed. This constant paranoia of all things Deep State is just shy of Breitbart ramblings.

    • Pucker February 10, 2020 at 11:32 am #

      You do realize that there’s no money in the “Social Security Trust Fund” since the politicians raided it a long time ago to fund unrelated government operations? Social Security is just a wealth transfer from current workers to retirees.

      • ellipsis February 10, 2020 at 11:51 am #

        Correct. They were “raiding” it right from the start, as the “Trust Fund” was just a convenient and reassuring title hung on the program to sell the idea in the first place. SS revenues were always just part of the current year tax revenue stream, with accounting entries made to keep track of the fictional “reserves.” The notion that’s it’s somehow “bankrupt” now or in the near future then, is erroneous. It’s no more insolvent than all the other banks and investment funds who are reliant on debt transactions that will never pan out, but which will be made whole anyway when they crash to the full extent of the government’s ability to print new debt-based money. SS is just the last great government bonanza yet to be stolen by the profiteers. Rest assured, they will get it sooner or later.

      • toktomi February 10, 2020 at 3:18 pm #

        @Pucker

        OMG! It’s a ponzi! We better get to making babies! Quickly! Sign me up!

        Oh, crap; that’s right; the entire industrial economy is a ponzi and the plug has been pulled.

        “Never mind.”

        ~toktomi~

  26. Pucker February 10, 2020 at 11:24 am #

    They still have to return to work.

    Good Lord!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YVlnWwYQTGw

    Meanwhile in the US…. Everyone just takes off their surgical mask when they arrive at the US airports from Hong Kong and China, and there are almost no public health prevention measures in place in the US airports. People seem to pretend that the virus just stops at the US border. Weird….

    • Pucker February 10, 2020 at 11:28 am #

      Trump announced ostensibly harsh public health measures to be taken at US airports targeting foreigners arriving from China. But it looks like the US Federal Bureaucracy just farted them off either out of bureaucratic sloth and apathetic malaise, or because they hate Trump, or both?

      • malthuss February 10, 2020 at 2:17 pm #

        I agree with the ‘too little too late’ crowd.

        The draconian measures China has taken were too little, too late. The fact that they took such unheard-of measures is, in itself, alarming. etc

  27. Lunchboxbike February 10, 2020 at 11:26 am #

    In current Greek architecture, I see awnings on all the windows. That would be useful as air conditioning disappears.

    • City_of_76 February 10, 2020 at 12:28 pm #

      And in Spain, they have sturdy shutters on the outside of windows, which they wisely use to shield themselves from hot summer suns.

      Air conditioning — as ever, fueled by poison-producing fossil fuels — is a luxury we should adapt to living with less of.

      But instead, we get new high-rise buildings plated in dark glass, or even more awfully, clad in black. At the moment we desperately need our buildings to reduce their draw of energy, and lessen their contribution to urban heat islands, we get a doubling down on bad forms: an architecture that directly degrades our environment, for years to come.

      Kind of like the current truck & SUV craze that’s made our roads deadlier, our carbon emissions higher, and the money pots of petrostates fuller.

      All for the sake of men’s egos, which we’ll never overcome, and which is the death of us all.

  28. Matt Holbert February 10, 2020 at 11:33 am #

    How about this: We shrink government to the point where it can fit in the classical buildings that exist. Then we implode the remainder of the buildings. Perhaps we can enlist the aid of Mossad in this endeavor.

    The same for private buildings. Most of business is monkey business. We get rid of monkey business and there will be no longer be any need for skyscrapers — including Trump Tower.

    • toktomi February 10, 2020 at 3:10 pm #

      @Matt Holbert

      No can “shrink government”.
      Government, fracking, and probably numerous others enterprises that I cannot imagine are public works projects [think New Deal] to help keep the economy rotating. The Chinese built entire cities to this end.

      I have yet to meet a single person who agrees that we cannot see things, that the world most surely is something that we are incapable of understanding, and that hackneyed, old perceptions are riddled with obvious flaws.

      HUH?

      Duh.

      Hint: Light is “seen”, not things, and light never reaches the brain.

      ~toktomi~

  29. Pucker February 10, 2020 at 11:40 am #

    Bernie Sanders says that he’s fighting for the Working Man. I’ve had a few blue collar jobs in my life. I worked in a couple of warehouses. I’ve never done construction or welded iron though.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EcXT1clXc04

    • ellipsis February 10, 2020 at 3:13 pm #

      I did one shift (too long) in a slaughter house way back in the day. Never knew what a rendering plant was until that day. Damn sure haven’t forgot it since.

  30. Farmer McGregor February 10, 2020 at 11:55 am #

    Thanks for another great post, Jim. I love it when you talk architecture, like your podcasts on the topic (Andres Duany, etc.)

    Speaking of, you might be briefly interested in a project called Montava on the NE edge of Fort Collins, Colorado (my little acreage is NW of said city) since DPZ is all over it. My only objection to the whole thing is that I absolutely hate development, especially over decent farm land; at least this project commits to agricultural involvements mingled into the mix.

    I find it both interesting and disturbing that most of the residents of this front-range-of-the-Rockies area — stretching from southern Wyoming’s Warren Air Force Base and University of Wyo. to Fort Carson military base in southern Colorado — assume that the robust economy in this zone is typical of the nation. They don’t realize that multiple military installations (including the Air Force Academy!), multiple federally funded universities (UW, CSU, CU, DU, etc. along with all their ‘federally funded’ students), numerous large federal institutions (USDA is huge here, NIH, CDC, national forest and park services, and let’s not forget the GSA’s new national capital complex called The Denver Federal Center) stream yuge! amounts of revenue into the area in addition to the usual federal pork for highways, education, etc.

    Add to all this a second silicon valley for high-tech industry and the relocation of rust-belt industries that have moved their HQ’s here to take advantage of the well educated population who just like living here (as contrasted with their old locations experiencing ‘brain-drain’ where good workers don’t want to live in areas now dominated by decrepit neighborhoods with increasing violence problems).

    The upshot: Very prosperous area with all kinds of money sloshing around creates the the illusion that all is well in the world: Jiminy Cricket Syndrome abounds. The fact is that without cheap fossil energy and massive amounts of irrigation water, this area is largely uninhabitable. The original residents had to stay on the move to survive.

    • ellipsis February 10, 2020 at 3:11 pm #

      Excellent observations. I’m just south in NM in another isolated pocket of upscale federal largesse. The future is unspeakably bright up here for all the local denizens, not least of which the LLC contractor gang of thieves who run, err… skim the place. It’ll be business as usual until it isn’t, at which time you’ll have never heard such squealing and wailing in all your life.

      • Farmer McGregor February 10, 2020 at 3:45 pm #

        “When are they gonna rescue me?!?”
        “I have a RIGHT to be provided for and taken care of!”
        “You OWE it to me to give me the food you grow!”

        Yes, it’s not going be pretty.

      • K-Dog February 10, 2020 at 3:48 pm #

        Perhaps some will remember Albert A. Bartlett <- ( click here ) from the University of Colorado.

        Mentioning Al today is appropriate:

        The Fibonacci Sequence does not take the form of an exponential but it does exhibit exponential growth.

        Binet's formula for the nth Fibonacci number is

        Fn=15–?(1+5–?2)n?15–?(1?5–?2)n

        Which shows that, for large values of n, the Fibonacci numbers behave approximately like the exponential Fn??n/5–?5.

  31. wm5135 February 10, 2020 at 12:01 pm #

    Mr. K
    Very nice article this morning, thank you.

    The article ties the view of the current economic model as racket together with today’s thought, upon reflection.

    The racket is inflating and skimming development loans. Moderately talented individuals having their lifetstyles financed by OPM(other people’s money), As is seems, the commercial banking industry is once again creating wealth from debt. The creation of collatarelized debt obligations or mdos passes the scam downstream, much like industrial waste is transferred into the public domain.

    The cultural milieu you describe might be viewed as the development industry’s version of turf protection.

    Thank you for this space

  32. Pucker February 10, 2020 at 12:01 pm #

    So Trump has declared a “Fatwa” against modern architecture?

    • Nightowl February 10, 2020 at 1:41 pm #

      No, according to the MSM he is ushering in the 4th Reich.

      Architectural beauty is strictly forbidden under globalism.

      • BackRowHeckler February 10, 2020 at 2:54 pm #

        Nightowl

        Have you ever visited the former East Germany?

        From what I understand, eastern cities escaped the heavy, concentrated bombing the west and north was pounded with (except for Dresden) .., so are there more intact classical 19t,18th and 17th century buildings still left standing in the east, or did the Soviets knock them down? Also, Stalinesque, Soviet style architecture, looking like massive concrete blocks, does that persist in the east. I doubt if that could ever be gotten rid of.

        Brh

        • Nightowl February 10, 2020 at 5:08 pm #

          Yes, the east is quite beautiful in spots. About 15 years ago, the govt. also dumped a ton of federal money into rejuvenating many of the old medieval towns that dot the landscape.

          Some of the most beautiful vacation spots I have been to are in the east. That said, they have not eliminated all of the Plattenbau structures in many of the larger cities.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 2:27 am #

          Remember that aesthete, Buck Stud? I once posted a huge collection of Soviet architectural atrocities (not Stalinist Neo-Classicism). He absolutely adored it and apparently downloaded it to his computer. All this despite his endless prating about John Ruskin and Beauty.

          What gives or gave? The soul is the ultimate mystery. One starts any investigation of one’s own or another’s by remember that the heart is corrupt above all things.

  33. Ishabaka February 10, 2020 at 12:16 pm #

    Neo-classical architecture is a tool of old white men who are transphobic, Islamophobic, homophobic, misogynistic, and racist – or so I’ve been told.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 2:29 am #

      All of human history can be seen as an attempt to quash Trannies – or to produce and transport a part that the little alien on Titan needed for his space craft. Or was it Mars?

  34. Farmer McGregor February 10, 2020 at 12:19 pm #

    With all due respect, Mr. K…
    Toward the end of 5th paragraph: “…to go of style…” needs an “out”.
    Final paragraph: “…your on fire…” needs some hair or something.
    Finally, I would prefer that you delete this comment.

    • malthuss February 10, 2020 at 2:18 pm #

      you are on fire is the correct way?

      • Farmer McGregor February 10, 2020 at 3:53 pm #

        Jim has fixed the spots I pointed out.

        Your question, though, brings to mind my son’s version of an old saying about teaching a man to fish.

        “Light a man a fire, and you warm him for a day.
        Set a man on fire, and you warm him for the rest of his life!”

        • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 2:31 am #

          I said that too, once. Kdog replied, That’s not cool. What are we but fractals of each other? Or perhaps of some Original of whom we know not?

  35. City_of_76 February 10, 2020 at 12:19 pm #

    “I believe that if the nature is beautiful, then even if the living level is economically lower, it’s still a better life.” — From William T. Vollman’s “Carbon Ideologies,” quoting a Japanese man in the Fukushima disaster zone.

    See his book reading in New York City, April 2018: https://youtu.be/sAY3N1J5Iyc

  36. Farmer McGregor February 10, 2020 at 12:32 pm #

    “…gigantic buildings designed by computers, with very poor prospects for being maintained, or even being useful, as we reel into a new age of material scarcity…” and “…since the scarcities we face will include a lot of modular fabricated materials ranging from plate glass to aluminum trusswork to steel I-beams, to sheetrock — all things requiring elaborate, complex mining and manufacturing chains” bring to mind the notion of the eventual ‘salvage economy’ that will be part of our post-industrial future. Think: John Michael Greer’s “Ruinmen”.

    I’m already salvaging glass panels and various metallic building materials for my purposes. How much of what can be usefully salvaged from most modern building will yet have to be seen.

    • Epicur February 10, 2020 at 2:53 pm #

      There’s sure a hell of a lot that isn’t salvaged because of insurance requirements, time constraints, and regulations. Those three problems make so much of salvage uneconomic. In the past most salvage operations were mom ‘n pop companies, but they have a hard time getting on a big demo job.

      • Farmer McGregor February 10, 2020 at 3:58 pm #

        So true. The ‘time cost of money’ makes it far cheaper to quickly demolish and landfill than to painstakingly dismantle and salvage.

        For now. I expect the time will come when this will change, like in a world made (and un-made!) by hand.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 2:32 am #

      Like copper plumbing?

  37. Tate February 10, 2020 at 12:33 pm #

    “Thom Mayne” architect of the Federal Bldg in San Fran.

    Hmm. Say it real fast & it comes out “ptomaine.” These types of buildings reveal themselves the product of disordered minds. Probably 90% gay.

    • toktomi February 10, 2020 at 2:48 pm #

      @Tate

      “Gay” would never be caught dead producing such hideousness. Now, I would offer that there are some mean macho queers out there that would do it just for the ugly effect [I stereotype them as god damn, shit stomping, cock suckers.] But gay is way to sensitive and empathic to be smearing shit around on this beautiful Earth.

      But don’t believe my stereotypes; yours are probably way too convenient for you to surrender.

      ~toktomi~

    • Tate February 10, 2020 at 3:07 pm #

      Here’s a Steve Sailer blog post on good & bad architecture in SoCal & another reference to Thom Mayne. “Thom Mayne-like folderol such as Random Rectangles and surplus sheet metal…”

      https://www.unz.com/isteve/1945-as-architectures-year-zero/

    • izzy February 10, 2020 at 5:45 pm #

      The freakin’ thing looks like a punch card.
      A perfect refection of the mindless modernity it houses, it’s already out of date.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 2:38 am #

      They have an innate need to destroy, which they see as being creative. One guy associated with MIT devotes himself to distorting Indonesian Gamelan music, making it into kind of hideous modernist mélange. Tribe I believe in this case.

  38. romanmanner February 10, 2020 at 1:36 pm #

    Jim,

    Do more of these posts; this stuff is where your insight stands out. We can get all the political nonsense and more virtually anywhere else.

    Thanks
    _____________

    That’s rather impertinent and snooty, Roman — As if the the wild political events of our time are not especially worthy of commentary. It’s quite stupid actually, considering the condition of the news media generally — JHK Admin

    • toktomi February 10, 2020 at 2:41 pm #

      @romanmanner

      hear, hear

      ~toktomi~

    • Farmer McGregor February 10, 2020 at 4:33 pm #

      @roman, perhaps you should go somewhere else.

      I keep an eye on a lot of news sites to try to maintain my awareness of what’s happening out there, especially in the swamp.
      JHK does by far the finest job of distilling piles of confusing info into precise, succinct explanations of the beltway shenanigans, and does so with prose so fine that it’s worth reading just for the mere quality of it.

      Please, Jim, keep up the fine work; many many many would miss it if you quit.

    • sophia February 10, 2020 at 7:58 pm #

      Jim,

      Although the problem of ugly architecture is dear to my heart, I agree completely with what Farmer MacGregor says below. Your commentary is unique.

  39. Cavepainter February 10, 2020 at 1:38 pm #

    So much art, so called, whether architecture, poetry, music, whatever denomination, was, more often than not, forced expression to suit patron. Most Rococo/Baroque ornateness achieves no wholly orchestrated visual effect because the aim in most cases was to simply exhibit how many high valued artisans were virtually “owned” by the patron. Same holds today.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 2:44 am #

      “Stolen Nazi Art”. Monuments Men! But who is the real bad guy? Perhaps the Nazis liberated the art from unworthy patrons?

      I don’t know. Maybe the truth is in the middle. Maybe it runs away from ideologues of all stripes.

      As for their crusade against Decadent Art, again, it’s complicated. Obviously much of modern art deserves the ignomity of the pyre, but they may have been wrong in a fair number of cases.

  40. Pucker February 10, 2020 at 1:50 pm #

    That photo of the San Francisco Federal Building is hideous.

    Chasten Buttigieg
    @Chas10Buttigieg
    ·
    27m
    I want to see a future where every child is accepted as they are and has the support to grow into the person they’re meant to be. That’s why this election is so important and so personal.

    • malthuss February 10, 2020 at 2:19 pm #

      yawn…I am not too aware of Chasten [what a f—in name].

    • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 2:46 am #

      Are you corresponding with him? If not, why not? Perhaps you have to much respect for Mayor Pete to do such a thing? If so, you are a true Gentleman, a good neighbor like Fred Rogers.

  41. kulturcritic February 10, 2020 at 2:20 pm #

    James, You have become a major disappointment. Your ongoing and uncritical defense of THE DON (aka. Dennis the Menace) is an embarrassment. You have revealed a shallowness of perception and cognitive function that could only be matched by the Donald himself. You should feel embarrassed at such blatant ignorance as you have displayed over these many months. Sandy
    ————————————————-
    You obviously don’t comprehend my position on Mr. Trump, though I have laid it out more than a few times: I am not a Trump cheerleader. Rather, I object to the arrant lawlessness and acts of sedition carried out against the president by officials in government agencies and the immense malevolent dishonesty it represents. So with all due respect, Sandy, go fuck yourself. — JHK Admin

    • toktomi February 10, 2020 at 2:39 pm #

      @ kulturcritic

      If you are going to insist on believing in mythical or fairy tale characters and for-the-masses stories, then for damn sure you are going to be “disappointed”.

      GA\/\/D DA/\/\N, when is it going to sink it?
      “It’s all bullshit, folks, and it’s bad for ya.”

      The last time I ran a quantum computer analysis and simulation, the conclusion was that an average of 98.976327% of all the notions held by the 97.6667% of the lowest earning individuals on the planet are based on lies acquired before the age of 18. Welcome to Moronsville. The red pill is available, however, to any and all who choose to extract their cranial parts from their rectal parts.

      But, hell, I could be wrong. Carry on.

      ~toktomi~

      • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 2:52 am #

        But I bet you believe in Democracy, right?

        How is that possible if what you just said is true? Cuz Democracy is just another one of those lies. Computer, reprogram yourself. See John Lilly’s “Reprogramming the Human Biocomputer”. The Dolphins will help….

    • benr February 10, 2020 at 3:20 pm #

      As some would say everyone has an opinion and most of them stink.
      Yours really stinks of narrow mindedness.
      Wake up!
      He is defending Donald Trump not because he likes the man but because in spite of how bad Trump seems to be he is being piled on by the worst elements of our society.
      If they can attempt to destroy Trump they can destroy any of us and that is the point he is trying to make.

      They came for my neighbor but I did not care because my neighbor was not me.
      When they came for me there was no one to care about me as no one was left.
      Classic Liberal point of view being lost in the weeds of insanity.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 2:50 am #

        As Tulsi says, if they can destroy me, a two tour veteran and political office holder, they can destroy anyone.

        Last I heard, she hasn’t even been able to get Hillary served. The FBI won’t let it happen. How’s that for corruption?

        • Nightowl February 13, 2020 at 4:33 am #

          It is the new normal when you have federal intel./sec. services like the FBI politicized and weaponized.

          There is currently a President in the WH who is trying to turn this around. You should support him.

    • Farmer McGregor February 10, 2020 at 4:01 pm #

      Sandy got a little TDS going there…?

      • Farmer McGregor February 13, 2020 at 11:14 am #

        “So with all due respect, Sandy, go fuck yourself. — JHK Admin”

        Well said, Sir!

  42. toktomi February 10, 2020 at 2:24 pm #

    “We will get back”, Loretta .
    Not likely but it’s fun to dream.

    I see a world
    of millions having been slaughtered
    by imperial greed,
    of empty condolences
    and frittered store clerk thank-you’s.
    I wish it was otherwise,
    predicated on aspirations of nice.
    Captain Willard, Georgie, and I
    are sick of the lies,
    and I am sick of the masses
    believing the lies.

    The human creature is a marvelous being
    but ultimately a smidge shy of wise
    and consequently completely corrupted
    by simply too much energy
    to fling like zoo monkey poo.

    AI AI AI, perhaps, my only friend, The End.

    ~toktomi~

  43. wet dog February 10, 2020 at 2:30 pm #

    Just a brief aside here, Jim. It looks like one of your long-standing predictions is now coming true: the breakdown of the global supply chains. I thought it would be caused by a frozen bank system and no more letters of credit; instead, we get the Black-Swan-Virus shutting down nearly the entire Chinese industrial heartland.

    A couple of good videos on this situation came out this weekend. One by Ice Age Farmer, who emphasized how nearly all of our antibiotics and meds come from China:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr5cnm-RAC4

    And old Chris Martenson, who has done a series of excellent videos on the virus:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir79nIFbobA

    So we have over 300 million (!!!) quarantined over a “little” flu. Hyundai has shut down factories in South Korea. All Chinese ports are on lockdown If the factories re-open by the end of the month, we may skirt through ok.

    But what happens if they don’t open until April, or God forbid June? How will americans get their plastic salad spinners, and 4th-of-July-USA-is-Number-One flags? Will the Fed have to go from printing trillions to mega-trillions?

    This year has already been a doozy, but if this isn’t resolved, we could go off the deep end.

    • toktomi February 10, 2020 at 3:39 pm #

      @wet dog

      Ya got ‘er, otter.

      There are hints aflounder that this may be the means of The Takedown in action.

      It seems like a prudent juncture to throttle back AliExpress shopping to All Stop.

      Don’t be scaring the children.

      ~toktomi~

    • Majella February 10, 2020 at 4:59 pm #

      wet dog

      Cranking up the printing presses is of little use if there’s little or no Chinese crap to buy with it…

  44. BackRowHeckler February 10, 2020 at 2:42 pm #

    After the returns come in tomorrow nite in NH, I’m wondering if Candidate Biden will withdraw from the race gracefully, with a modicum of dignity … or will it get ugly?

    Brh

    • malthuss February 10, 2020 at 3:18 pm #

      I left something upthread for you.

    • toktomi February 10, 2020 at 3:50 pm #

      @BackRowHeckler

      Seriously? That is something that you are “wondering” about-?-

      Ya, me too, along with wondering about what time the Super Bowl starts tomorrow and when Britney will be playing the Denio Opera House.

      That’s probably a bit disingenuous of me since I consciously endeavor to ignore EVERYTHING published in mainstream printed media, television, radio, and Internet sites.

      What is a Biden? Abidin’?

      ~toktomi~

      • ellipsis February 10, 2020 at 4:09 pm #

        Abidin is a tragic elderly clown figure currently playing in a traveling road show of freaks and other curiosities to decidedly mixed reviews. Rumor has it, however, that the entire production is soon to shut down for lack of interest.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 2:58 am #

          He likes to sniff the hair of little girls. I like to sniff the hair of big girls. The only different? No, one of many.

          I never said Race was everything just that it is closer to being everything than nothing. There a lot of room for gray there. And for other subjects…..

          You do me a wrong sir by seeing me as a narrow racist. My racism is as broad as the sky, even cosmic like that of Walt Whitman in his Leave of Grass.

    • Nightowl February 11, 2020 at 4:53 pm #

      He was ranting about Rudy being a thug in a recent interview. This after learning the hard evidence from Rudy’s Ukraine trip was turned over to the feds.

      I suspect the best of Quid Pro Joe’s antics are yet to come.

  45. mdhendler February 10, 2020 at 2:43 pm #

    Hitler and Speer imagined the new Reich capital, Germanic, to be a grandiose neo-classical city with domes and columns larger than anything seen in the Parthenon and Pantheon. However Nazi Germany also had its version of modernism called Nazi-Brutalism. The main extant example is Goering’s Air Ministry building on Wilhelm Strasse in Berlin. Today it is the German Finance Ministry. The only change to the building was to sandblast the eagle swastika emblems that appeared all around the outer gates. Now, these are now all plain blank circles.

    • mdhendler February 10, 2020 at 2:44 pm #

      Germania, not Germanic.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 3:01 am #

      No doubt you want to blow up Stone Mountain and put MLK’s visage on Mt Rushmore, blotting out all others in the process.

  46. My Point of View February 10, 2020 at 2:44 pm #

    I love the old buildings, as I call them.

    Meanwhile, here’s the kind of shithouse building JHK speaks of:
    http://media.bizj.us/view/img/5427601/5611colpike300611*1200xx3881-2183-10-0.jpg

    I worked in this place (Nassif Building) 22 years as part of Army/DoD transportation. When I worked there the exterior was a sickly aqua blue color, not diarrhea brown like the current mess. It wasn’t gated then either, it was wide open … and we two Top Secret mainframe military command & control host systems in the basement in lead-lined rooms, one of 28 such sites around the world.

    For history fans: One of JFK’s financial backers was David Nassif. The deal was if JFK got elected Mr. Nassif would build two office buildings and JFK would fill them with Federal workers. The deal got done. There are two Nassif Buildings in the DC area, one in Falls Church where I worked and one in DC that was home of the USCG for many years.

    My Nassif building is the location where Lt. James Calley was tried in a military courtroom for the My Lai Massacre.

    When Jimmy Carter was accused of having too many lawyers on the Pentagon staff he moved a couple hundred of them to our Falls Church Nassif Building. Carter then told the MSM that he had reduced the legal staff in the Pentagon by one third. He didn’t end anyone’s employment, he just moved them 3 miles west. In typical political doublespeak it was true that he reduced the size of the legal staff IN THE PENTAGON by one third. Outcome: The MSM loved it. Lesson: All is folly.

    • Tate February 10, 2020 at 3:10 pm #

      “My Nassif building is the location where Lt. James Calley was tried in a military courtroom for the My Lai Massacre.”

      You can’t tear it down now, it has hysterical significance.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 3:22 am #

      All lies in jest. Still a man believes what he wants to believe and disregards the rest.

      The words of the prophets are written on the subway walls? “Call so and so for a bj”? It has to be properly interpreted is all.

  47. Epicur February 10, 2020 at 2:45 pm #

    “Meanwhile, along came Stalin and Hitler who persisted in the dirty business of neoclassical architecture, and they screwed the pooch on that theme for all time, while the Second World War reaffirmed the urge to cleanse the world of all that filthy symbolism. ”

    Minsk is a real eye-opener. Mostly rebuilt after WWII. Ugly!

    • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 3:23 am #

      You lie! You really went to Pinsk!

  48. malthuss February 10, 2020 at 3:17 pm #

    abandoned subway

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nY6A0_uxyvs

  49. toktomi February 10, 2020 at 3:33 pm #

    President is a title, not a position, like Queen or Lord or Fuckwad.

    It is just name-calling, speaking nothing of the probable reality of anything.

    In so far as people in political positions, I prefer titles like shit face, asshole, dick head, and butt breath. If forced [never a conscious choice] to address one, then I would aspire to nice and call them by name as would be appropriate in print also, I would offer.

    Please endorse my favorite candidate, the only one that ever gets my vote, None of the Above.

    ~toktomi~

    • ellipsis February 10, 2020 at 4:01 pm #

      I think the title ‘Lord Fuckwad’ affords the exact proper amount of dignity and contempt I generally hold for all elected officials. Plus it allows me to speak out of both sides of my mouth in addressing them, just as they always do when they speak to me.

  50. benr February 10, 2020 at 4:25 pm #

    Let the virtual book burnings begin!

    Amazon is quietly canceling its Nazis. Over the past 18 months, the retailer has removed two books by David Duke, a former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, as well as several titles by George Lincoln Rockwell, the founder of the American Nazi Party. Amazon has also prohibited volumes like “The Ruling Elite: The Zionist Seizure of World Power” and “A History of Central Banking and the Enslavement of Mankind.” From a report:
    While few may lament the disappearance of these hate-filled books, the increasing number of banished titles has set off concern among some of the third-party booksellers who stock Amazon’s vast virtual shelves. Amazon, they said, seems to operate under vague or nonexistent rules. “Amazon reserves the right to determine whether content provides an acceptable experience,” said one recent removal notice that the company sent to a bookseller. Facebook, Twitter and YouTube have been roiled in recent years by controversies that pit freedom of speech against offensive content. Amazon has largely escaped this debate. But with millions of third-party merchants supplying much of what Amazon sells to tens of millions of customers, that ability to maintain a low profile may be reaching its end.

    • malthuss February 10, 2020 at 7:28 pm #

      those 3 have been using censorship against libertarian leaning and ultra right wing people for years.

      • malthuss February 10, 2020 at 7:28 pm #

        while allowing jihadists to post.

  51. fugeguy February 10, 2020 at 6:25 pm #

    Getting closer. Soon we can start to debate what finally brought it all down.

    Too many sharks circling in the water now to avoid resolution.

    Anybody care to over/ under based on election day(11/3/2020)?

    • fugeguy February 10, 2020 at 6:25 pm #

      Ever the optimist I take over.

    • elysianfield February 10, 2020 at 7:35 pm #

      Fugeguy,

      I’ll take the under that the election might not actually occur, considering the specter of a global pandemic in the offing. We are currently in a sweet spot… ignorance is bliss, and within three weeks we will, most likely, be disabused of our blissful ignorance… we will know if our system will persevere.

      Can I get odds on this?

      • fugeguy February 11, 2020 at 9:30 am #

        Yea, I’ll take the over on that as well.

        I think this is flu+ and not captain trips.

        But I agree that we will not “know” for 3-4 weeks.

  52. Pucker February 10, 2020 at 7:02 pm #

    That photo of the Federal Building in San Francisco is hideous.

    It looks like a cross between a random broken piece of plastic found in a junk yard and a growth of fungus found on the butt cheek of a big fat white redneck woman.

  53. BackRowHeckler February 10, 2020 at 7:23 pm #

    We have 4 or 5 houses down on Main Street built 1650-1670, and many more from 1675 (end of King Philip’ War) to 1770. And then there are some really grand Federal style places c1850 built by families who got rich trading with China and India. People live in them, they’re well maintained and attractive. Say what you want about Yankees, they knew how to build a town. One sad thing I’ve seen thru out the years here is many, many fine old colonial houses demolished to make way for apartment buildings, suburban development or strip malls. You’ll see a house, it’s been there 250-300 years, one day there’s heavy equipment parked in the front yard, next thing you know the place is gone.

    Brh

    • KesaAnna February 10, 2020 at 7:43 pm #

      I’ll admit , with the rare exception like Savannah Georgia , the South looks like shit.

      But then , until quite recently , the bulk of federal tax money flowed north . The South only paid for the union .

      As is actually very common , the one who pays does NOT call the shots.

      I’m biased though. I would agree with the 17th – 18th century European assessment that the South is a White mans graveyard.

      It’s a swamp , or otherwise a very dull landscape , and too damn hot.

      Without air conditioning , even the most well – designed and pretty of places begins to look pretty dismal well before Labor Day rolls around.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 3:06 am #

      “Developers” will advertise, “Come live in a historical neighborhood” even as they destroy all that makes it historical for their prospective clients. Capitalism eats itself, a worm that dieth not until it is consumed. But can the mouth eat itself? I expect an answer…..

      • BackRowHeckler February 11, 2020 at 5:24 am #

        As if socialist housing projects — which seem to sink into squalor, rubble and hopelessness about a week after completion — would be any better.

        Brh

      • BackRowHeckler February 11, 2020 at 5:27 am #

        Actually it was Jackie Kennedy who saved many of the colonial houses on main street. Many of them were slated for demolition in the urban renewable movement in the 60s, even tho this place isn’t urban. For that we owe her a tremendous debt of gratitude.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 12:51 pm #

        Well yes, I’m a National Socialist, remember? That means the Socialism of OUR Nation, a White American Nation of well raised people. Nature and Nurture. The k strategy not the r of having as many kids as possible.

        So your comment has nothing to do with mine, but my critique of Capitalism stands.

  54. KesaAnna February 10, 2020 at 7:31 pm #

    ” The directive has caused heads to explode in the cultural wing of Progressive Wokesterdom, since the worship of government power has replaced religion for them and federal buildings are their churches — the places from which encyclicals are hurled at the masses on such matters as who gets to think and say what, who gets to use which bathroom, and especially whose life and livelihood can be destroyed for being branded a heretic.

    The religion of Progressivism (under various names) has been growing for over a century, based on the idea that the material abundance of techno-industrial societies should be centrally managed by national bureaucracies, finally leading to a nirvana of perfect fairness. The part that’s always left out is that this is accomplished by coercion, by pushing people around, telling them what to do and how to think, and by confiscating their property or docking their privileges if they seem to have too much of either. ”

    I can’t complain about that sermon.

    Over time it has become rather difficult to take personally , or take seriously , much of the amateur psychologizing directed my way around here.

    Since they are hanging out on a blog where , at least occasionally , you say exactly what I would say .

    Well ….maybe not entirely.

    “… who gets to use which bathroom … ”

    my guess , though I bet it is a good guess , is that in a world of outhouses , there really wasn’t much high drama over privy privileges.

    Even if you aren’t generally creeped out by spiders , even if you like spiders , they generally don’t avoid outhouses , and that’s ….. well ….

    You get in the habit of carrying a stick with you , to bang around the hole. ” Go away if you’re there ! ”

    And you simply do not sit down !

    ( ironically though , the more spiders in the outhouse , the better. Other creatures , a hell of a lot more annoying than spiders , seem to fear spiders , so make themselves a bit more scarce , which is good. )

    I doubt even an Ed Gein — type would want to dwell on that sort of thing.

    ” The religion of Progressivism (under various names) has been growing for over a century, ”

    More like 500 years.

    Bolsheviks and Nazis weren’t the origin , just the eager kids who ran with the already — existing ball.

    Sort of like if you really look at the gay rights crowd dispassionately you rather easily see that it’s an unpopular subculture of unpopular freaks. As a political power it is a complete joke.

    The prime movers were , and are , white bread heterosexuals , or even the sexually neuter.

    • BackRowHeckler February 10, 2020 at 7:53 pm #

      Kesa Anna

      I don’t think too many people know who Ed Gein was anymore.

      He was notorious in his time — the 1950s — but has been outclassed as a creep and a killer by alot worse people who have come down the pike after him. Still, he was pretty bad, specially the grave robbing part of his act.

      Brh

  55. KesaAnna February 10, 2020 at 8:04 pm #

    Now I’ll bring up the impeachment myself.

    Yay ! Somebody made a brief , bare – bones little movie about my favorite impeachment of all – time ;

    The “trial ” of Charles I .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPDpj59kkgk

    I must interject , though , that I do not think that the King was being so hypocritical in claiming to stand for the liberties of Englishmen while killing Englishmen.

    What was the terrible slaughter ?

    Maybe a 5% of Englishmen , basically a subculture , and the other 5% consisting of mercenaries , fought on the Royalist side.

    The barely 10% that fought on the Republican side were a subculture that took seriously , or claimed to take seriously , the claim of power – hungry aristocrats that they lay awake at night agonizing over the welfare of the little people.

    And THAT was the English Civil war ; two subcultures killing each other.

    Everybody cry now.

    And , just like today , the political drama was GROSSLY over – blown.

    • BackRowHeckler February 11, 2020 at 5:42 am #

      About 250,000 dead in the English Civil War, many more if you include Cromwell’s invasions of Ireland and Jamaica with his New Model Army of Puritans in the 1650s.

  56. sevensec February 11, 2020 at 12:51 am #

    I forget who it was who d that WWII had proven that there must never be poetry again. The implication being that ‘poetic’ thought had somehow led to the totalitarian meltdown of the ’30s-’40s.

    This sort of thinking caught on because, as JHK implies w.r.t. architecture, progressives basically desired that the World Wars be taken as plenary refutation of all things transcendent, mythopoetic, or even beautiful.

    Still, I daresay the Sovs & Nazis were really anything *but* representative of ancient virtues, verities, and proportions. At best, they were severely mutilated imitations of such, filled with now-retconned but at the time highly “progressive” ideas, and pandering to a kind of discontent that people and leaders alike had already calamitously forgotten how to properly articulate.

    (Like him or hate him, it’s hard to resist Moldbug’s terse summing-up of fascism: “Carlyle implemented by swine”. Or of socialism: “the end-stage of democracy”.)

    So, by the time of the World Wars, the living, breathing understanding of the principles JHK here touches on had long since been ground to hamburger and pushed to the far margins by the relentless mechanistic Simplification of human nature—hand-in-hand with the crazed Complexification of technique that now besets us. And as the cherry on top, the horrors of those wars simply got recast into a pretext to further speed the overall “progressive” process.

    (‘Cause when you’re in a hole, as any economist knows, you should definitely dig faster… aim for China…)

    We’ll definitely be in for interesting times as we seek to un-grind those understandings, as well as to generally un-swine ourselves, in the ages ahead. But Truth, being Truth, never really goes; nor is it even really far away. And so also the knowledge of it, however rare, is never extinguished for good.

  57. SoftStarLight February 11, 2020 at 2:24 am #

    One of the co-founders of Extinction Rebellion said that humans need to return to a wild and feral state in order to save the planet. No less than a return to a Paleolithic existence is required to save the human species from total annihilation brought on by Modernity and Climate Change. So the cave as a place of residence could make a serious comeback? I really do wonder if everything fell apart and all the lights went out tomorrow if we would devolve to cave people again. Honestly, it does seem a little arrogant to think it’s not within the realm of possibility. Especially when some of the alleged best and brightest in our society say it’s the best thing for us and our future. Though after a stint of living in the earth with an elevated risk of exposure to more strange bat coronaviruses an architectural renaissance would probably be welcomed by the bedeviled denizens of the future. It seems like human nature gravitates towards more complexity not less, even though a desire for simplicity is often expressed. So it’s very unlikely that humans can remain in a pristine, hunter-gatherer state forever despite the no-civilization goals of Extinction Rebellion.

    • K-Dog February 11, 2020 at 2:57 am #

      if we would devolve to cave people again. Honestly, it does seem a little arrogant to think it’s not within the realm of possibility.

      Don’t you have that backwards. The all the kings horses humpty-dumpty sort of thing. Entropy and the second law of thermodynamics you know.

      But we are going to agree on something. I feel it. I don’t think anybody who talks about re-wilding would last a week in an actual state of nature. Your average philosopher type who thinks about all this would be climbing trees trying to get a WI-FI hookup within days. Considering that the world can only support a few million hunter gather types at one time, most people have to die to make the ridiculously unsustainable sickly sweet re-wilding dream alive. People who dream of this are out to lunch.

      So what if revolutionary change sweeps the globe and everyone re-wilds. It is unsustainable. A garden of Eden is never without a tree of life. Within a few generation one tribe will have another working as slaves. destroy all civilization and all memory of goodness is gone.

      Human nature gravitates towards more complexity not less, even though a desire for simplicity is often expressed.

      Very true.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 3:14 am #

        All of a man’s problems are caused by his inability to sit quietly in his own room – Blaise Pascal

        The outward going tendency or pravritti marg is complimented by the inward going tendency or nivritti marg. One must become a healthy caterpillar, fat and juicy, before one builds a chrysalis, abides, and transforms into a butterfly.

        You are fat enough already and have been for quite some time….

        • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 3:18 am #

          Keep to thy cell, it will teach thee everything – the Desert Fathers.

          But do you? No. Each day you go to Starbucks to drink a bitter brew that enhances your outward going tendencies. When will you learn that it is by will alone that your mind is set in motion? And that it is by will alone that it will cease to do so?

          Shit doesn’t just happen. Try sitting on the toilet and just waiting. You must will it! Read “Will” by G Gordon Liddy.

          • K-Dog February 11, 2020 at 4:10 am #

            Time spent reconnoitering is never wasted.

          • SoftStarLight February 11, 2020 at 9:22 am #

            I think that I would have a hard time quieting my mind whether or not the wifi stays on or goes off. That has to be a life work to finally quiet those waters so to speak. As Jesus himself walked upon the waters and beckoned Peter to do so we should all be willing to walk on the water. But who really has the faith to do so? Even Peter looking at the Lord Himself lost faith and would have fallen into the depths of the sea if Jesus had grasped onto him.

          • SoftStarLight February 11, 2020 at 9:23 am #

            had not

          • elysianfield February 11, 2020 at 12:17 pm #

            “Read “Will” by G Gordon Liddy.”

            Janos,
            Read the book twice…great piece of fiction (but entertaining!).

          • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 12:59 pm #

            SSL: Krishna, the Christ of India, said as much. But He said it can be done thru constant practice. As a Householder, yours is the path of Karma Yoga or action. Dedicate your actions – all of them – to the Lord. The ones that can’t be offered up (the sins) in worship, offer them up in repentance.

            Your choice of New Testament stories shows your wisdom and yearning. Surely you will come to Him in the End. I (hopefully!) will meet you on God’s Golden Shore.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 2:40 pm #

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ5BFivMwxU

    • K-Dog February 11, 2020 at 4:07 am #

      But it’s all moot. Soon there won’t be enough forest or nature life to support any cave people anywhere. Not even bugs to eat. Invertebrates are going extinct. The second law of thermodynamics is fast tracking.

      • BackRowHeckler February 11, 2020 at 5:38 am #

        How soon?

        500 years? 10,000 years? Or 10 years from now?

        • malthuss February 11, 2020 at 8:48 am #

          drudge, now–half million insect species threatened w extinction. soon.

          • BackRowHeckler February 11, 2020 at 10:28 am #

            I hope they’re all mosquitos and sand flies. Those things are thick around here come mid may.

      • SoftStarLight February 11, 2020 at 9:31 am #

        Yes, a point well taken! Like you said above, the world appears to have only had the carrying capacity for millions of hunter gatherers rather than billions. I presume too that lifespans were abbreviated because of lack of medicines, treatments, regular food supply, fighting, etc. I sort of understand the law of entropy. That things are constantly dissolving and falling apart. Though it seems that there is an organizing and centralizing principle to things. As if things tend to become more complex over time even though they are also falling apart. Does that make any sense lol? I think that is what Janos was indicating too. But ultimately I do agree with you. We won’t be able to go back to a wild state. Potentially though we could land somewhere between how we are now and the way we were when we lived in caves.

  58. Cargill February 11, 2020 at 4:07 am #

    I’ll preface my comments by saying that (a) I graduated from Architecture School at the very end of Peak Modernism – about 1975, and (b) I also despise the hyper-complex buildings that have replaced much of it (or descended from it) – the execrable works of Norman Foster and Frank Gehry are prime examples.

    There are few more breathless experiences than standing in front of the Guggenheim Museum in Balbao Spain, and wondering with some amazement where human society has got to. I won’t even begin to discuss the built environment of oil-soaked desert sinkholes such as Dubai and Abu Dhabi.

    I spent most of my first three years of Architecture fighting “Modernism” rather than embracing it – we spent many tough days lying in front of bulldozers that were trying to knock down every decent building in Sydney that made it a very attractive place.

    Even today I can walk through that sparkling city, and look with some pride at the gorgeous Victorian edifices that I played a tiny part in the saving thereof … and look aghast at some of the dun-coloured concrete towers that were ugly in 1971 and remain so.

    However I disagree strongly that Modernism (the International Style) were the results of elitism crossed with the social democratic progressiveness of the 20th Century. I think this is simplistic too.

    I think the forces leading to the Modernist Revolution, related much more to the following:

    1. The revulsion felt by the intellectual NON elites at the slaughter of WWI – the professional classes, the academy, and many others from the thinking middle classes
    2. The emergence of new materials and new technologies – in particular reinforced concrete, elevators, aircon, better glass and steel, and the production of components in factories
    3. And it is all about the economy – the enclosing of space was able to be achieved far more efficiently and far more cheaply
    4. And Modernism (in direct contrast with Neoclassicism) was also very much about the setting of the built environment into the natural one.

    In many respects, Modernism was a reaction to, and rejection of, the elitism of the old ruling classes, and its embodiment in civil and commercial buildings alike.

    Just about every state capitol in the US is a mini US Capitol – nothing surprising there – because they are the embodiment of power, importance, and permanence. Nothing surprising in that of course; the same with many court houses and county chambers across the landscape.

    In my own fair land, there was a humongous Gold Rush between 1850 and 1890 – more gold was pulled from the ground in about three of four regional centres in our colonies than in the rest of the world combined.

    You can go to dozens of still-prosperous rural towns across these regions, and see where a good slice of all this wealth went.

    Apart from the banks, by far the grandest buildings are the town hall and the post office – almost all a brave (and enduringly beautiful) attempt at some amalgam of Neoclassical, along with the stern proportions and restraint of Georgian, mixed with the fussy detail and extravagant doo-dads of the Victorian era.

    Nothing like it has been built – or even really contemplated – since. Drought, depression, and the gold running down, brought the country face-to-face with reality after about 1895.

    And while I agree that stone and wood are wonderful materials, they are very expensive – both in procurement, and then being worked by skilled tradespeople.

    That’s why their use are essentially limited to the Summer “Cottages” of the Newport Rhode Island Gilded Age, the vast ski lodges of the seriously wealthy (Rupert Murdoch’s pad in Sun Valley, etc), or to some of the more blessed national parks – where budgets were generous and labour gangs was cheap during the Depression.

    As for FLW – all his spectacular houses were for seriously wealthy clients – the dog-faced old right-winger had very easy design-build gigs, in my estimation.

    As to Trump’s Executive Order, I’m certainly not outraged about it – and certainly not for the reasons cited by the New York Times and other commentators.

    Trump the iconoclast is just being Trump the Dictator … he is getting “federal buildings” to look like how he wants them to look – because I guess he can. What’s the point of being President if you can’t do stuff like eat ice cream strait from the carton at midnight?

    I certainly personally prefer Jefferson’s University of Virginal pile (Picture B) to that ridiculous “look at me” disaster in San Francisco (Picture A).

    But not because Modernism, and its satanic love children since about 1970, are the dire outcomes of Progressive thought … just about every Neoclassical building in the land (any land really) is there to impress, intimidate, and overwhelm the general populace.

    They are hugely elitist, and inefficient to boot – even if the windows and rooms conform to perfect Palladian edicts, or the Fibonacci dictates of a nautilus shell.

    And realistically, while every modern post office is just another clean tidy shop-front in the local mall these days, I think it’s progress, not entropy. I do appreciate their modernity and efficiency, and the very light touch they impose on the public purse to deliver a federal function.

    I don’t need an imposing building just to collect my mail or get a passport renewed – the nice shop next door to the grocery store and near my favourite coffee stop is far more convenient. Form really does follow function in such cases.

    Trump is very familiar with going bankrupt in order to have Other People pay for his grandiose buildings and schemes … perhaps that’s the future he sees for US federal buildings designed on his watch.

    But if I had to choose between the neoclassical pile that is – say – the gold-domed Colorado Capitol in Denver, and a fake-gold Mar-a-Lago on steroids, I guess I’ll take the former.

    • K-Dog February 11, 2020 at 4:17 am #

      No ormolu for you.

    • BackRowHeckler February 11, 2020 at 5:36 am #

      “Fake gold Mar a Largo on steroids”

      Really? Mar a Largo was built in 1924 by heiress Marjorie Post. Its recognized as an architectural gem, and one of the top historical properties in the United States not owned by the Federal govt.

      What grandiose buildings are you talking about? Even simple post offices here built before 1940 were built in the classical style, simple and attractive.

      Brh

      • Nightowl February 11, 2020 at 10:51 am #

        “Guyz, all that’s missing is Trump’s very own Albert Speer. Can’t you see what is happening!

        First they came for Comey …”

        LOL

    • benr February 11, 2020 at 8:36 am #

      Ah an Australian no wonder you appear to be such an idiot to our politics.
      Hey you have a ton of problems on your side of the pond mate you guys need a Trump to save Australia from your own terrible politicians.

      • Cargill February 11, 2020 at 9:40 am #

        LOL … you guys are just so predictable, and so much fun.

        Whatever’s going on under those bright red MAGA caps (made in China for $0.99, just $29.99 for the rubes), clearly there’s not very much about modern architecture or modern politics.

        So straight to the ad hominem, and attacking the messenger! And Trump wouldn’t last five minutes in Australian politics … Aussies are bright, sharp, informed, skeptical, cynical, streetwise, and intolerant of wankers.

        Unlike the rubes in the flyovers and clowns on forums with far too much time on their hands, we can detect bullshit a long way off, and act (vote) accordingly.

        Have a great day comrades.

        • benr February 11, 2020 at 10:15 am #

          Having had the experience of being around Australians the wankers usually turned out to be loud drunk Aussies always looking for a fight.
          The term ugly American really applies to your lot.
          Aussie tend to be nothing but abrasive and loud mouths.
          Something you at least on this board live up to.
          Odd you should use the term comrade as it really shows where you head is at.
          Stick to your own politics you know nothing about ours.

          • BackRowHeckler February 11, 2020 at 10:51 am #

            At some point in the future the Aussies will come crawling to us begging for help, like they did in 1942.

            Probably when China comes a callin’.

            We’ll probably bail them out again.

            Brh

          • SoftStarLight February 11, 2020 at 11:15 am #

            Haha the down under comrade just got punched! Real Aussies say mate anyway, not comrade. Now, hopefully that punch moved the brain cells back into the right place!

          • BackRowHeckler February 11, 2020 at 1:53 pm #

            Yeah, the Japanese considered Australians ‘White Mice’, and had them slated for extermination. Then Uncle Sam showed up and saved the day. Look at the thanks we get from Cargill.

            Now its the Chinese casting a covetous eye toward the Australian continent, all the resources, the coal, the open space. In addition, like the Japanese, the Chinese never cottoned to the idea of round eyes living in their Asian neighborhood. Chinese are patient, building up resources. Two elite marine divisions backed up by a PLA division is all they’d probably need. After that, we won’t be hearing anymore from Cargill.

            When they get thru mopping up in Australia, then it’s on to New Zealand, which should be no problem at all for the PLA.

            BRH

          • Cargill February 11, 2020 at 2:57 pm #

            The term “comrade” was used by Labor Parties long before the Bolsheviks came into existence. Labor Party politics and membership are historically based on trade unions, and are fairly clearly social democratic.

            And Australia is one of those very successful countries (along with NZ a few in Western Europe) where Labor has achieved great policy outcomes for the mass of people, without the loss of the capitalist buzz, without the crushing of individual freedoms, and without sending the place hopelessly broke.

            And with the decline in blue-collar unionism, Labor parties have shifted in scope and shape … they are now coalition parties that include the well-off liberal middle class (that includes me btw), plus a lot of diverse minority constituencies.

            But just like in the US (with the ridiculous practice of having Iowa and New Hampshire go first), there is a conservative white rural / non-metro bias in the system. It’s rather harder for big-city demographics to actually win elections, even though the bulk of the people live.

            Every vote is equal, but some are more equal than others …

            Speaking of “equality”, stand by for the Dumpster to pardon Mike Flynn and Roger Stone – or at least have their sentences reduced to something trivial, under orders from “Low” Barr.

            There is no stopping this dictator – as I have said before, it’s amazing any sentient being can get so sucked in by him, the Republican thugs, and the billionaires running the show. In five years you’ll all be shaking your heads, saying ‘What were we thinking?’.

          • Nightowl February 11, 2020 at 4:49 pm #

            Cargill is mentally unravelling. Stacking fantasies and losing himself in a world of conspiracy.

            The condition is inoperable.

          • benr February 11, 2020 at 5:47 pm #

            @Cargill

            Trump IS the reaction to eight long years of Obama Socialist policy much as Obama was a reaction to GWBush.

            That’s what you don’t get because you are not American and see these United states not as they are but as they are painted by the progressive media.

            In essence you are clueless and brainwashed into thinking you understand American politics but you don’t and you can’t so jut stop you look like an idiot even trying.

          • HapMan February 12, 2020 at 10:15 am #

            Cargill,

            Thanks for elevating the discussion here. Reminds me of what one could expect here back in the day.

            As I’m sure you know, you can have the highest level of confidence in the soundness of your arguments when the other side comes back only with ad hominems and non sequiturs.

          • Nightowl February 12, 2020 at 4:13 pm #

            Alternatively HapMan,

            The ad hominems come when the other side has simply recognized a fruitcake for a fruitcake.

            Mueller failed, Schiff failed, and your McMedia has failed.

            But there is hope for you as an individual.

            Join us in embracing reality.

          • HapMan February 13, 2020 at 8:20 am #

            I’m not sure what you mean by “Mueller failed.”

            Mueller was engaged to investigate and prosecute criminal conduct relating to Russian interference in our election.

            Mueller operated under long-standing DOJ guidelines that prohibit prosecution of a sitting president. So prosecution or even criminal indictment of Trump was ruled out at the get-go.

            But Mueller brought several successful prosecutions of Trump associates.

            And Mueller documented facts supporting each of the elements of the statutory crime of obstruction of justice by Trump. Multiple incidents of it.

            (All of has been well reported including by Fox News. Anyone reading this can easily find articles about it. So I’ll save you your usual lame “post concrete evidence” gambit.)

            Trump has been thoroughly lawyered-up since his days as Roy Cohn’s protégée. His lawyers have certainly advised him that he is exposed to criminal prosecution on these matters the moment he leaves office.

            Will Trump actually be prosecuted when he leaves office next January? I have no idea. It is the case that Mueller did not find sufficient evidence of a crime underlying the obstructive acts – though as he noted Trump’s obstructive acts influenced that outcome, and thus Mueller stated that there was no exoneration.

            So no, Mueller did what he was hired to do. And he essentially wrote the statement of facts for criminal complaint for the prosecution of Donald J. Trump, should the next DOJ decide to pursue that.

    • CancelMyCard February 11, 2020 at 12:39 pm #

      The Black Swan arrives home to roost
      on October 10 this year —

      10/10/2020

      Watch for it . . . it will turn the election,
      and the world,
      upside down.

      And everything goes swiftly downhill from there.

    • K-Dog February 12, 2020 at 3:12 am #

      Damn, this part is a jaw dropper:

      And why wouldn’t they? The criminal justice system has given up all pretense that the crimes of the wealthy are worth taking seriously. In January 2019, white-collar prosecutions fell to their lowest level since researchers started tracking them in 1998. Even within the dwindling number of prosecutions, most are cases against low-level con artists and small-fry financial schemes. Since 2015, criminal penalties levied by the Justice Department have fallen from $3.6 billion to roughly $110 million. Illicit profits seized by the Securities and Exchange Commission have reportedly dropped by more than half. In 2018, a year when nearly 19,000 people were sentenced in federal court for drug crimes alone, prosecutors convicted just 37 corporate criminals who worked at firms with more than 50 employees.

    • K-Dog February 12, 2020 at 4:08 am #

      It was a very good read. I shared it elsewhere.

  59. Pucker February 11, 2020 at 9:26 am #

    Pride.,,.

    Chasten Buttigieg
    @Chas10Buttigieg
    ·
    17h
    The future is watching. Let’s make them proud.

    • fugeguy February 11, 2020 at 9:33 am #

      Pete seems nice enough. But I am not sure I’d trust him (think qualified) to plan a vacation for me.

      No doubt he is not capable of governing Indy let a lone the nation.

      • benr February 11, 2020 at 10:19 am #

        A bunch of people suffering under hos for lack of a better term leadership are getting vocal about the real Pete.
        Look around plenty of people are loudly proclaiming to anyone that will listen just how awful his hand on the tiller has been.

  60. sleek111 February 11, 2020 at 9:33 am #

    America is a “fractured fairy tale”, told by idiots.

    Long gone are the people to whom JFK said…

    “ASK NOT WHAT YOUR COUNTRY CAN DO FOR YOU, ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY”.

    The world’s greatest “melting pot” has become the world’s greatest pressure cooker.

    And when it finally explodes, I doubt most of you will be concerned with the style of architecture used for federal buildings.

    • fugeguy February 11, 2020 at 9:34 am #

      no doubt

    • SoftStarLight February 11, 2020 at 9:48 am #

      And one preeminent reason for the explosion of the melting pot turn pressure cooker is that the melting pot is no kind of model for a country that is really supposed to work. When groups and factions are working at cross purposes with one another how can there ever be union? It goes against the laws of relationships. Nations are meant for solitary people groups who are united by a common ancestry, culture, and language. Everything else is Globalism and will bring about many of the failures we see in front of us today.

      • benr February 11, 2020 at 10:52 am #

        The melting pot has turned into a chamber pot.

        • SoftStarLight February 11, 2020 at 11:18 am #

          Hmmm, toss it out the window onto a progressive Yankee’s head hehe!

        • malthuss February 11, 2020 at 12:03 pm #

          wow

          5 star hotel to flop house for the fsa..free shit army

      • Cargill February 11, 2020 at 6:16 pm #

        “Nations are meant for solitary people groups who are united by a common ancestry, culture, and language. Everything else is Globalism …”

        History isn’t on your side here, comrade. Throughout history (and probably pre-history too) the most vibrant, interesting, creative, and wealthiest cities, city-states, and even nations, have been the result of a vigorous melting pot.

        New Jersey and New York are richer and more exciting than New Hampshire. And all the other great cities of the world (not quite without exception but close to it) over centuries have been open to people from everywhere, trade from everywhere, and investment of everywhere.

        If mono-cultures aren’t poor materially (some do well, such as Switzerland, and a few segments of Japan, India, etc) they are often pretty dull aesthetically and socially. Some might find comfort and solace in mono-cultures, but I for one do not.

        Sharing the same ancestry over the long term leads to unhealthy inbreeding and incest – sometimes literally. Give me a vibrant, hybrid multicultural space any day. But there are caveats to this – it needs to be a genuine melting pot, with all colours and creeds having at least a fair shot at the goodies.

        If all the material and political privilege rests with one group (the good ole boys down at the country club, say), and other groups keep filling all the bottom rungs … well that is unhealthy, and ultimately unpleasant for everyone, including the rich. In my fair country, lots of first, second, and third generation migrants do very well, and wind up in political positions, in the academy, the professions, and boardrooms.

        Lots to like about the multiculti world, and it’s ridiculous to use the bogeyman word “Globalism” to blame everything you don’t like, such as the melting pot. Nashua might have moved from Nashua to Nanking for compelling economic reasons – it wasn’t caused by an increase in migrants into New England.

        • Nightowl February 12, 2020 at 4:27 pm #

          Globalism is not about multi-culturalism.

          It is about the ability for trans-national corporations and associated trough-feeders in the public and private sectors to take resources, both human and natural, as they please. Free of pesky federal red tape, free of borders and the concept of national sovereignty.

          The means to the end is the centralization of power and the movement of labor.

          Globalism is sold to the low of IQ through clever framing of wedge issues and the promotion of superficial ideas of inclusion and togetherness. In other words, you are a mark.

    • benr February 11, 2020 at 10:12 am #

      That depends on how bad it gets.

      I was in the Navy and when we pulled into Guayaquil Ecudor right after they and Peru had been having a border war I saw people living and working in bombed out houses and buildings but only the sturdier structures had people. Some of those concrete structures would have survived and been still semi useful.

    • fugeguy February 11, 2020 at 11:29 am #

      BTW- “America is a “fractured fairy tale”, told by idiots.”

      Love this line.

  61. SW February 11, 2020 at 9:53 am #

    Good article — the picture of the San Franciso building looks like either a giant computer chip or credit card, both iconic symbols of our world. How fitting they’re now building monuments to them both. There’s nothing charming or graceful in modern architecture and the landscaping around these buildings (at least where I live) has become just as sterile and rigid. Mass planted tulips and pansies in early spring are ripped out in late spring while still in full bloom for mass plantings of moss roses and whatever else is cheap and plentiful. A development close to me has as many structures crammed on it as possible with the town homes three stories high and made of fake stone. When this humdinger is finished, I’ll send a picture.

    • beantownbill. February 11, 2020 at 11:10 am #

      “Developments” (what a word, or as Chester A. Riley used to say,“ What a revoltin’ development this is!”) in this day and age are the result of too many people, the lack of desirable locations still available to build on – you should see where they are squeezing in residential structures in my own neighborhood – and the speeding up of things due to hyper-complexity, resulting in use of modern materials that allow for very fast construction, but do not hold up well over time.

      • elysianfield February 11, 2020 at 12:23 pm #

        “what a word, or as Chester A. Riley used to say…”

        Bill,
        You date yourself.

        • beantownbill. February 11, 2020 at 1:04 pm #

          I know how old you are, and I’m a drop older than you, youngster.

  62. Nightowl February 11, 2020 at 10:43 am #

    Barr on the “Dossier”:

    https://twitter.com/RealSLokhova/status/1227238993408020480

    Giuliani has also handed over the evidence on the Bidens he gathered on his Ukraine trip.

    The floodgates are opening.

  63. SoftStarLight February 11, 2020 at 11:27 am #

    A different subject I know but the angst about pernicious progressivism still applies in the sense that I wish Birds of Prey would have never been released. They have ruined one of my favorite love stories with their stupid girl power theme. This was the truth about the whole situation and still is no matter what their new lies are.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Vq0zh1n6DI

    • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 1:29 pm #

      You are hopelessly weird, hopelessly White, hopeless bonded to the night (romantic)! Oh, for a therapist like you….

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwjyzHkJQBA&list=RDTwjyzHkJQBA&start_radio=1

      I never knew the origin of this character. I never went to see it and all the trailers left him out and just showed her with her bat being ultra-violent. In other words, they were planning to go this way all along.

      • SoftStarLight February 12, 2020 at 1:07 am #

        Three hopelesslys in a row! Are you trying to make me dizzy? 🙂 I understand the provider/patient protocols very well and I’m super professional I’ll have you know lol. The Harley Quinn character really came about in the 90s from what I understand. She was the Joker’s therapist at Arkham Asylum and then as you can see the rest was history. I’m sure they were planning to “liberate” her for a long time too. The only problem is that they fundamentally changed her character in doing so. Obviously Mr. J and Harley are psychos so they have their ups and downs and a separation here and there doesn’t surprise anybody. But for her to say its over completely. Nope, not real, I’m sorry that movie is going to be a bust. I could have told em they were wasting their time and money ahead of time.

  64. beantownbill. February 11, 2020 at 11:48 am #

    @ Marlin:

    I’m in Florida right now, having arrived yesterday. I hear that Boston will have a wind chill factor below zero tonight, whereas it is around 80 here today on Sanibel Island – not to rub it in.

    The reason I’m writing you is that although I always drive directly down route 95 from Boston, through Providence, this time I started by going west along the Mass Pike until route 84, then south through Hartford. I was shocked to see how much it had deteriorated since the.last time I was there around 15 years ago. From what I could see it turned into a depressing dump, just as you have been describIng. I did notice the occasional stately building, though, a sad reminder of its classy past.

    I’ll be coming back to Connecticut on my return trip to spend a few days in Ledyard visiting the casino.

    • malthuss February 11, 2020 at 12:02 pm #

      BRH has mentioned local decline for how many years?
      always bad news from him since he is a realist.

      • SW February 11, 2020 at 12:32 pm #

        Once you leave a city, drive thru the urban sprawl and get off the main highway, the decay is everywhere, not just in the Rust Belt. A recent shooting in West Texas showed the man’s “home” — it was a corrugated metal shack with no running water and it was by no means the only one.

        • beantownbill. February 11, 2020 at 1:09 pm #

          I remember being in Atlanta about 50 years ago. The city was very modern along the main streets. I got off them and drove along side streets outside of downtown, and it was Tobacco Road.

          • BackRowHeckler February 11, 2020 at 1:38 pm #

            As an indication of the state of Hartford, yesterday there was a near fatal stabbing inside Weaver High School. Apparently there are many gangland fights, an occasional shooting, but not too many stabbings. Immediately the Board of Ed went into “This is not who we are” mode.

            No, it’s exactly who they are.

            Brh

    • BackRowHeckler February 11, 2020 at 1:32 pm #

      Always nice to hear from you, Bill.

      Yes, it’s been a long decline for Hartford, from the wealthiest city in North America per capital in 1925, to the hollowed out, poverty stricken welfare colony it is today.

      I’m afraid the next shoe to drop is venerable Aetna Insurance Company moving out. Aetna employs 10,000 people. It’s only a matter of time; as you probably know RI based CVS pharmacy bought them out for a cool $167 billion a few years ago. When that happens there’s no coming back.

      Enjoy your time in Florida, my friend. Dismal in NE today, heavy rain, sky looks like it’s been dredged up from the bottom of the North Atlantic.

      Brh

  65. malthuss February 11, 2020 at 12:00 pm #

    I found this–I went to a Senate Homeland Security hearing 11 years ago—subject Somali radicalization in MN.

    I noted at the time that MN Senator Amy Klobuchar didn’t even show up to ask questions of the FBI. Or to hear Somalis talk about mosque radicalization.

    Not White House material!

    https://fraudscrookscriminals.com/…/where-was-amy-klobucha…

    • beantownbill. February 11, 2020 at 1:16 pm #

      No Dem candidate today is presidential material, except for possibly Tulsi. Not agreeing with her politics doesn’t mean she doesn’t have a modicum of gravitas – besides, seeing her on tv every day could be very pleasing to the eye.

      • BackRowHeckler February 11, 2020 at 1:20 pm #

        She IS a good looker, and that counts for alot.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 4:42 pm #

          No sex appeal at all though – unlike AOC or Dr Harlyze Quinn.

  66. Cargill February 11, 2020 at 3:21 pm #

    “Now its the Chinese casting a covetous eye toward the Australian continent, all the resources, the coal, the open space. In addition, like the Japanese, the Chinese never cottoned to the idea of round eyes living in their Asian neighborhood. Chinese are patient, building up resources. Two elite marine divisions backed up by a PLA division is all they’d probably need. After that, we won’t be hearing anymore from Cargill.”

    Shows how little you understand Southeast Asia, or the Chinese-Australian relationship.

    China is our biggest trading partner – and the trade is a very large (and so far successful) two-way street, despite new trade deals between the Dumpster and Xi (which are all carnival beads anyway – very little of substance – the DumpTruck has ruined agriculture and what remained of manufacturing jobs in a little more than three year.

    Huge numbers of Chinese already live (permanently or on a visa) here, and many thousands more work, study, travel, invest, or buy property here as well.

    In just about every way that matters, China and Chinese people are highly integrated into Australian culture, politics, and business. Our society has changed, and very rapidly.

    The Architecture School of 1970-1975 was wholly “white” European – western, eastern, jewish, and so on. Today that faculty is about 95% Chinese. There are lots of complicated issues in here, and while I think our society has changed very rapidly (too quickly for many), no-one is talking about building walls around a white enclave.

    Anyway – there is literally no point in the Chinese invading the place in a military sense – they are being very successful using soft power and investment grunt in any case.

    Plus Australia is a hard place to invade in any case – for the vast majority of the coastline, you face uninhabited territory that is either crocodile infested or bare stony desert. The cities are well defended, and would not be given up easily.

    Plus there is a large squadron of extremely good fighter bombers based in the very north – Darwin. They can leave at breakfast, do an awful lot of damage in all manner of places, and be home for dinner. It’s a pretty good defence policy.

    • BackRowHeckler February 11, 2020 at 3:58 pm #

      Sounds like you’re an Albenese backer.

      • Cargill February 11, 2020 at 6:21 pm #

        Nope – gave up on Labor many years ago … only vote for the Greens (aka the pixies at the bottom of the garden).

    • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 4:47 pm #

      They need lebensraum, you silly Koala. Living room! You see, it’s not all about the money with them. And no, they don’t see you lot as valuable as their own people. They renounced that Marxist shit a long time ago. This is the Chinese Empire reborn under a new rubric. Just as they never really believed in Confucianism (one Confucian scholar said that China had always really been Legalist), they are not really Capitalist now – not essence. They use aspects of these philosophies, both to function and as a cover for the inner workings.

      • Cargill February 11, 2020 at 6:25 pm #

        “They need lebensraum, you silly Koala. Living room!”

        I know what ‘lebensraum’ means – I watched Hogan’s Heroes as well. And if they need lebensraum, they’d be backing the wrong horse. Serious academics who are not green nutters can argue persuasively that the sustainable carrying capacity of the country is well under 20 million, and we exceed 25 million already.

        Perhaps advise us all what will an additional 50 million Chinese punters find food and water. Perhaps you better visit – most of it is less productive than Nevada.

        Have a great day comrade!

        • Majella February 11, 2020 at 6:43 pm #

          Indeed, Cargill. The population overshoot will start to hit home even harder in the wake of the recent bushfire/flood cycle, which is predicted to intensify each year.

          There’s already evidence of well-heeled ‘climate refugees’ fleeing “The Lucky Country” for “The Shaky Isles”.

          • BackRowHeckler February 11, 2020 at 11:08 pm #

            The worst brushfires in Australia were in 1939.

          • Majella February 12, 2020 at 2:44 am #

            Define ‘worst’ and describe how large the populated areas were, relatively. affected?

          • BackRowHeckler February 12, 2020 at 10:06 am #

            Situation like in Cal. Population not that big in ’39, and people hadn’t yet built houses in fire zones (where house should never been built.

            Having said that in 1939 75 people were killed by intense bushfires in Australia, most of them on a day called ‘Black Friday’.

            Apparently severe Bushfires in Australia were not that uncommon even before Europeans (Portugese and English) showed up in the 17th century.

            Every weather and natural event now is suddenly caused by ‘Global Warming’, and a reason to de industrialize the west it seems. Just as an aside, there’s a movement afoot to ‘go carbon free’ — apparently an attempt to power up New England soley with windmills and solar panels … it’s been freezing rain here for 2 solid weeks, today is the first day we’ve seen the sun, everything soggy, no wind to speak of; how are solar and windmills going to work in conditions such as they are here? The whole concept is absurd, but what is disturbing is the fanaticism and seriousness (and arrogance) of the people backing it.

            Brh

        • elysianfield February 11, 2020 at 6:59 pm #

          “Perhaps advise us all what will an additional 50 million Chinese punters find food and water.”

          Cargill,
          Easy…just find some God-forsaken corner of the outback full of killer ants and funnel spiders….

        • malthuss February 11, 2020 at 8:44 pm #

          1974 was the beginning of the end of White Au.

          • Cargill February 12, 2020 at 12:02 am #

            “1974 was the beginning of the end of White Au.”

            Thank goodness for that – it was very very dull vanilla in the 1960s, I can advise.

          • Majella February 12, 2020 at 2:52 am #

            1974 – When Whitlam’s Labor Government was basically ‘impeached’ by the right-wing PTB?

        • malthuss February 11, 2020 at 8:45 pm #

          food–bats cats human fetuses are ok to eat in China.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 11, 2020 at 4:49 pm #

      Southeast Asia – lol. Ho Chi Minh: The last time the Chinese were here they stayed for nine hundred years. We’ll have the French out in twenty.

      This roo is as crazy as the bedbugs he has in his Waltzing Mathilda.

    • benr February 11, 2020 at 5:49 pm #

      Again you don’t get it.

      The Chinese are now the colonizers.
      They are flinging money and people out to take over.

      • Cargill February 11, 2020 at 6:29 pm #

        Of course I get it – can’t you read? I just described to you what is happening in Australia. But while the money pours in for coal, iron, wool, food, tourism, property, and education – we’ll more than gladly put up with bigger Chinatowns in each of our cities.

        Your paranoia is charming.

        • benr February 11, 2020 at 9:42 pm #

          Your delusional state is not.
          You reek of NPC status.

          • Cargill February 11, 2020 at 11:58 pm #

            At least I get my reality from reality … rather than the alt-right psycho-bubble. Makes me much more warm and cuddly, don’t you think?

            Have a great day comrade!

          • SoftStarLight February 12, 2020 at 1:19 am #

            Can I ask why you say comrade so often? It’s 2020 in the interwebs, not 1960 in St. Petersburg. Clearly its not a term of endearment for you and I’m kinda thinking you are doing it to be annoying. But I hate to be so rude as to not give someone the benefit of the doubt. Are you a Marxist?

          • Nightowl February 12, 2020 at 4:55 am #

            Cargill is the male Majella.

            Ask him the magic question and watch him melt.

          • benr February 12, 2020 at 10:00 am #

            @Cargill

            Reality?
            You have no clue about reality at least as it relates to American politics with your skewed spoon fed leftist talking points.
            Get real.
            When we see the alt right reference we all just know that’s code for progressive echo chamber rhetoric and chicken shit talk for your a racist.
            Do you have anything resembling experience on the ground here in America or do you get your factoids from such paragons of reporting virtue like CNN and MSNBC?

    • BackRowHeckler February 12, 2020 at 10:24 am #

      Would China be amenable to a bunch of whites from Australia showing up to take over their schools of Architecture?

      Or does it work only one way?

  67. akmofo February 11, 2020 at 6:39 pm #

    Victor Davis Hanson puts his finger on the source of Trumps problems

    https://youtu.be/ZseK98pXCjs?t=208

    These Obama holdovers in the White House were a just a big anti-Trump foreign policy conglomerate.. they probably were planted there by Ben Rhodes.. There was a reason why they took out Gen Flynn very early on.. because out of all of National Security Advisors he was going to make it a point to CLEAN HOUSE.

    • Nightowl February 12, 2020 at 10:50 am #

      Indeed. They just cleaned out the NSC and got rid of Jessie Liu. And as we know, Lt. Col. Doughballs and his brother were sent packing.

      Lots of big moves in this past week.

    • BackRowHeckler February 11, 2020 at 8:44 pm #

      Yeah RIB, what a surprise. I thought he was off the hook.

      Now are these Federal charges? I know the Ill. state attorney — a Soros appointee and a friend of Michelle Obama — refused to prosecute.

    • SoftStarLight February 12, 2020 at 1:33 am #

      Wow! Maybe his Black and Gay privilege isn’t going to help? I can hardly believe it. I’ll check back again in the morning to make sure it wasn’t a dream.

  68. JCalvertNUK February 11, 2020 at 9:51 pm #

    Whatever.
    Just, NO MORE FLAT ROOFS!

    • Cargill February 12, 2020 at 12:15 am #

      NO MORE FLAT ROOFS!

      Indeed … as mentioned up-thread, a modestly pitched roof with overhanging eaves of about 600 mm (24″) is the most appropriate for all buildings of less than three floors.

      They protect from summer sun (a huge factor in sub-tropical Australia), and keep off most rain too. And done right – proportioned nicely – they look very aesthetic as well.

      Unbelievably given our climate, the “modern” house here has gone for the square, boxy minimalist look – flat roof, no eaves (“they are so 20th Century …”), lots of unprotected glass, and plastic-metal cladding.

      Some look pretty good – but their aircon bills must be enormous, and they can get to look old pretty quickly, and not in a nice lived-in way; more like a cardboard carton left out in the weather.

      • JCalvertNUK February 12, 2020 at 11:34 pm #

        World-wide Woy Woy

  69. tucsonspur February 12, 2020 at 1:18 am #

    An extraordinary edifice of an essay, Jim. Yes, there isn’t much truth or beauty in Modernism, except for the truth that ‘cutting edge’ might mean cutting costs, but I wonder. However, the beauty of power and money is well expressed architecturally in the New York Stock Exchange building, with its wonderful capitalized columns and beautiful, but somewhat paradoxical pediment depicting ‘Integrity’ and the ‘Works of Man.’

    • SoftStarLight February 12, 2020 at 1:41 am #

      It’s really beautiful and ornate. It’s out of sync with the otherwise brutal and heartless stock exchange though so I see what you mean by paradox.

      • K-Dog February 12, 2020 at 3:05 am #

        And Trump stock market gains have been resembling the Fibonacci series of late. Truly a gilded age. Gold leaf with a thief.

        0, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233, 377, 610, …

        • SoftStarLight February 12, 2020 at 9:29 am #

          Wall Street is loving the whole “Winning” meme.

  70. axisboldaslove February 12, 2020 at 3:08 am #

    Oh my God, Jim, did you have to post yet another photo of a piece of crap modern building in San Francisco, my home city? Just kidding- I know, of course, you didn’t do that to vex me. But I’m vexed! We’ve got the world biggest sky fornicating Sales Force Phallus, some other overly build damn sky scraper that is TILTING. HELLO! And this piece of crap on Mission Street. Talk about a city gone to hell. Pisses me off!

    But anyway, thanks for a (sort of) break from the usual here. It was refreshing.

  71. Pucker February 12, 2020 at 6:04 am #

    Who was the CFNer who was telling me that he once bought a “Lowrider” car like the Hispanics in California drive because he wanted “to drive American”? Anyway…I guess that it’s “more American” than one of those Korean “Shit Buckets”?

    I wonder how long it will take them to “heart attack” Bernie Sanders?

  72. Pucker February 12, 2020 at 6:27 am #

    It looks like the virus can spread through the air since it seems that in a building estate in Hong Kong that people living on different floors are getting the virus? Also, it seems that the virus can live outside for up to 9 days. Maybe that’s why they’re doing mass spraying in Wuhan? Good Lord!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kcZl5jji_Z8

    • SoftStarLight February 12, 2020 at 9:28 am #

      I know I was going a little crazy with coronavirus conspiracy theories last week. I just got caught up in it you know. But if you may recall, I suggested that the virus may last a long time in the environment. Of course I also said it was engineered too. But! It looks like some of my wild guesses are turning out to be at least close to the truth. That is, if we will ever really know the truth about what really happened and is happening.

      • GreenAlba February 12, 2020 at 10:19 am #

        SSL, if Spanish ‘flu, for whose nickname we know the entirely spurious reason, had – more accurately – been known from the start as ‘Kansas ‘Flu’ (in line with very credible evidence, since that’s where Patient Zero lived on his poultry farm), which then spread from the US military base to which he was sent after joining up and where the head honcho refused the opportunity to quarantine his men, do you think we’d have had the same kind of conspiracy theories as today with the Chinese?

        I mean, since it probably did have some effect on the German war effort (German and Austrian soldiers seemingly died from it at a higher rate than Allied soldiers), it could have been argued that Kansas was doing its bit – albeit in a very roundabout and rather ‘take one for the team’ kinda way – for the war effort.

        You’re good at this kind of thing – what do you think? 🙂

        • BackRowHeckler February 12, 2020 at 11:13 am #

          Wait a minute, the ‘Spanish Flu’ was Uncle Sam’s fault too?

          GA, can you name anything bad that’s happened in the history of the world that’s not the fault of the USA?

          BRH

          • GreenAlba February 12, 2020 at 11:19 am #

            No need to throw your toys out of the pram, brh, I just asked a slightly tongue-in-cheek question of one of our resident conspiracy-theory lovers. What’s good for the goose is surely good for the gander. I didn’t mention anything else that was ‘Uncle Sam’s’ fault. But you don’t find it an interesting contrast?

            If it hadn’t been for censorship (cf. China today) it wouldn’t be called Spanish ‘Flu in the first place. British censorship, American censorship and German censorship.

            I just notice really obvious inconsistencies in people’s attitudes to things. It’s not even deliberate. 🙂

          • GreenAlba February 12, 2020 at 12:35 pm #

            “sauce” even…

        • BackRowHeckler February 12, 2020 at 12:58 pm #

          What’s a pram?

        • SoftStarLight February 12, 2020 at 1:31 pm #

          Hmmm very interesting. So maybe that is the whole reason that the head honcho refused to quarantine the flued up soldiers? Maybe he did think that infecting the Germans, Austrians, etc., would help the US effort? I mean how will we ever really know? So you are saying we need to call Spanish Flu Kansas Flu? I am ok with that. I wonder if I could get involved in some sort of investigation on the matter. 🙂

          • GreenAlba February 12, 2020 at 3:09 pm #

            There have been several (investigations, I mean). Here’s one:

            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC340389/

            It remains ‘credible evidence’, but not ‘settled science’, so it’s all to play for if you have the tools to play.

            “So you are saying we need to call Spanish Flu Kansas Flu?”

            Er, no… I’m not that sort of revisionist. Let sleeping etymologies lie, unless the Spanish decide to sue for defamation, obviously. 🙂

  73. Pucker February 12, 2020 at 8:06 am #

    Pete and Bernie will be close on delegates and then the Super Delegates will flip it for Wall Street Pete?

    • Pucker February 12, 2020 at 9:04 am #

      Don’t these people have anything better to do?

  74. SoftStarLight February 12, 2020 at 9:15 am #

    Yes, I can clearly see now that Pete Buttigieg is a Wall Street valet. I also believe he is a CIA operative and a shadow state schlep. I wonder if he is really even Gay? Think about it. This is a dream candidate for the “Progressives”. But what is progressive about him? Nothing really. Unless progressive means selling your soul for Big Business and the almighty dollar. I just never imagined Progressives worked so hard for investors and developers and actually for the overall destruction of the environment and the erasure of traditional, small town America.

    https://www.breitbart.com/2020-election/2020/02/11/watch-pete-buttigieg-flood-small-american-towns-with-immigration-to-grow-population/

  75. Elrond Hubbard February 12, 2020 at 9:43 am #

    Free porn offered to cruise-ship passengers under coronavirus quarantine

    https://globalnews.ca/news/6535843/free-porn-cruise-ship-coronavirus-quarantine/

    “An adult website has proposed a way to help quarantined cruise-ship passengers pass the time: watching pornography.

    “Miami-based company CamSoda has extended an offer some may not be able to refuse, allowing quarantined passengers full, complimentary access to their webcam services, Fox Business reports.

    “‘They are not only dealing with the fear of infection, which is terrifying, but boredom,’ Daryn Parker, CamSoda’s vice president, said in a statement. ‘We like cruises just as much as the next guy, but without activities or human interaction, the boredom must be crippling.'”

    This is some kind of metaphor for 2020.

  76. messianicdruid February 12, 2020 at 9:45 am #

    I like the Devon Building in OKC. It seems like a tribute to Frank Herbert and I’m looking forward to the new Dune remake.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tallest_buildings_in_Oklahoma_City

  77. BackRowHeckler February 12, 2020 at 10:26 am #

    Q, if you’re looking in, article today in WSJ about Rutgers ( your neighbor) Basketball,

    Hint: they are good this year for the first time in awhile.

  78. malthuss February 12, 2020 at 11:25 am #

    Cargill prefers murder, knifing s, mosques and China Inc owning
    the place to ‘dull Whites’—

    “1974 was the beginning of the end of White Au.”

    Thank goodness for that – it was very very dull vanilla in the 1960s,

    • SoftStarLight February 12, 2020 at 1:34 pm #

      Yeah, I mean who really needs peace, stability, and quiet? The nerve that anyone should expect such! Maybe he has a chocolate addiction? Maybe he is Chocolate?

  79. drewkeeling February 12, 2020 at 11:25 am #

    An excellent exposé!

    Two footnotes:
    1. In its earliest pre-World War I conceptions, progressivism was a mostly positive element of US politics and society, lending impetus to reforms such as the child labor, food and drug acts, antitrust rules, conservation and national parks, and (from the private sector), attractive column-fronted Carnegie libraries across the continent, not to mention the “City Beautiful” architectural wave itself.
    2. Probably the biggest driving force behind the ugly dehumanizing “Modernist” disposal-architecture of more recent times is that it is run by profit-maximizing industrial-scale companies, with “built-in” repeat business potential. The more schlock that has to be soon again torn down, the more the lucrative opportunities for bigger and uglier replacements down the road.

  80. benr February 12, 2020 at 12:22 pm #

    Huh?

    From the bounds of the outer limits or twilight zone.

    So is Black News Channel. BNC, the country’s first African American-led 24-hour news channel, premiered this week to coincide with Black History Month. The goal: to fill what some see as a void in representation. And to provide news most relevant to black communities.

    • SoftStarLight February 12, 2020 at 1:38 pm #

      2020 Woke Logic:

      All Black anything is awesome, diverse, in line with our most core values, beautiful, courageous, inspiring, etc., etc.

      All White anything is racist, supremacist, xenophobic, hate filled, Nazi, domestic and international terrorism….oh, and just ole dull vanilla.

      • K-Dog February 12, 2020 at 2:46 pm #

        Its not that bad. Mostly all white anything is just boring.

        • Janos Skorenzy February 14, 2020 at 1:15 am #

          It is that bad and your attitude is the proof of it. But I’ll give you a point: Whites allowed themselves to be domesticated and are somewhat “boring” now. But there are far worse things that such boring people to live around or even to be – like being Brown cannibal or living near Black gangsters.

    • Cargill February 12, 2020 at 3:49 pm #

      White guys with tinfoil-lined red caps have their own dedicated news channel – I can’t see why African-Americans should not. I’m actually quite surprised that this is only happening now.

      And TV channels serving minorities are quite common in Australia – and there is a lot of interesting stuff to be found … even for us rich old white guys.

      • benr February 12, 2020 at 5:33 pm #

        Naw in my Country there is usually three news anchors one always black an attractive Asian lady or latina and the token old white guy. To say the are under represented Is now a flat out lie.

        • Majella February 12, 2020 at 5:50 pm #

          “Representation” is not the Talking Heads reading the ‘news’, benr.

          • benr February 12, 2020 at 6:30 pm #

            I don’t agree with you they have an entire channel called BET 24 hour a day programming just for black points of view.
            If we popped up a white channel you can be sure the lawsuits would flow like water down hill.
            Now a news network just for blacks seems rather racist to me.

          • benr February 12, 2020 at 6:31 pm #

            In another thought they also only comprise 13% of Americas population at roughly 40 million.

          • Janos Skorenzy February 12, 2020 at 7:01 pm #

            Or rather “the” News – as if Blacks and Whites agree about objective reality enough to even choose what to leave in and leave out.

            You still don’t get it.

      • elysianfield February 12, 2020 at 5:52 pm #

        ” I can’t see why African-Americans should not.”

        Cargill, one damned good reason that they should not is that their view of racial matters is best remained hidden. There seems to be little forbearance on their stated opinions…the worst aspects of their racial animosity.

        The drumbeat will be incessant.

      • BackRowHeckler February 12, 2020 at 6:11 pm #

        Is there an Aborigine news channel in Australia? If no, why not.

    • malthuss February 12, 2020 at 7:38 pm #

      BET–Black Ent TV…shows like…….DRUMROLL

      HOT GHETTO BABES.

      You wanna see bizarre…’so ghetto prom outfits’—do a search.

  81. Tate February 12, 2020 at 3:29 pm #

    Janos,

    Did you see the story on SAS, the Scandinavian airline?

    What is truly Scandinavian? Nothing, according to SAS’s globalist infosmearcial.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/Y6u24uAdfFPt/

    Remind of anybody on this board?

    • Tate February 12, 2020 at 3:32 pm #

      Commenter CosMICjester says:

      What is at the root of this self loathing & flagellation?? Why would these peoples decide to debase their culture?? I will bet there’s an whitey hating insidious cabal of SJW schl0m0 bolshevik buzzards behind this.

      • Janos Skorenzy February 13, 2020 at 12:39 am #

        They have taught me to believe an old doctrine of Freud’s, that of “Thanatos” or the Death Urge. The Tribe has succeeded in inserting a death wish into the Western Psyche. Basically all our institutions are now poisoned in this way and their purpose is now simply to destroy us.

      • Nightowl February 13, 2020 at 3:55 am #

        These concepts are being broken down because it is part of the process of destryoing national sovereignty.

        As always, ask who benefits and then follow the money. The global plantation awaits.

    • malthuss February 13, 2020 at 12:10 am #

      this..whites have no right to a history??

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3lwxYdfghM&feature=youtu.be

    • malthuss February 13, 2020 at 12:14 am #

      comment there,
      So sad. So ignorant. So jewish

      n
      Kalergi Plan in action: http://www.hist-chron.com/j
      and the https://demstuermer.wordpre… is going very well due to stupid traitorous White trash feminazi whores and invader rape.

      n

      I learned a lot from this video. And by applying its “logic” to other cultures, we can proudly declare that there is no such thing as Jewishness. As such, there is no such thing as antisemitism. Since there is nothing that is truly Jewish, we no longer need “hate speech” laws that protect Jews. And, the walls in Israel need to come down. They didn’t invent walls. Israel belongs to everyone, because it is nothing more than the sum total of parts that came from somewhere else. Yes…I am starting to like this new way of looking at the world.

      n

      ?
      Avatar
      isaiahii iccabobb • a day ago

      There are many white channels on bitchute because YouTube banned them.
      They had to go somewhere. There is a growing movement of people who just want to have their countries not become mixed melting pots.

      The ones who are dividing and conquering are those pouring in floods of people from non-white nations to cause strife and civil unrest in the white nations. People can only be united when they have something in common. Whites do not have anything in common with Blacks, Browns, Yellows, and Reds. People by nature prefer their own kind. This is present in all of the animal kingdom, why are humans the exception?

      • Janos Skorenzy February 13, 2020 at 12:41 am #

        Yes, White Nationalism is the only option now. Those who are not with us are simply the unwitting pawns of the Enemy if not the Enemy itself.

      • HapMan February 13, 2020 at 9:37 pm #

        Hey JHK – so you’re all good with this garbage on your site?

        • malthuss February 13, 2020 at 11:40 pm #

          I am just quoting other people.

  82. meargen February 12, 2020 at 4:46 pm #

    Agree. Terribly ugly POS in architecture, and see junk like it everywhere. Note how a few years ago, architecture was snaking towards older styles, but now its as trashy as the early 60’s stuff.

    The architecture JHK refers to in his books of early 1900’s America was The American Renaissance, and what’s left is still quite attractive and dignified. I also dislike the assertion that neoclassical architecture is always fascist, and must be avoided to create more bauhaus. Look, I don’t hate bauhaus. I can see its uses, but as JHK said in his books, it’s usually taken by corporations to get hives of office space.

    I actually like some of Speer’s designs. I think the Reichschancellory wasn’t bad, although a bit cold, but it had a dignity to it. Note how the allies tore it down. I remember Hitler said that architecture spoke of a people’s greatness. He noted how people thought Ludwig of Bavaria’s palaces were too expensive, but in the end, tourism paid for them.
    In a strange way, if the Reichschancellory was rebuilt…with the Fuherbunker restored…it would appall many, but also be a cash cow. Millions would flock to see it. It would probably rival Disneyworld.

    At first Hitler admired Greek architecture, but eventually favored Roman architecture. He thought its imperial style suited a people’s greatness, and most people know of his plans to reconstruct Berlin in such an imperial style…strange how resembles Nero in rebuilding, as Nero’s White Palace gobbled up a lot of Rome…torn down to make way for the Colloseum…the name actually referred to a massive statue of Nero on that location.

    The new chancellory now is a bland POS, another freaking glass box.

    Interesting how Hitler was fond of opera houses. He could quote what almost any opera house in Europe looked like, and one of the few books he took with him in the bunker was on opera architecture.

    Hitler had applied for a position at the Vienna opera for an assistant set designer, but took off before the interview. What would have happened if…?

    Also, although in his books on contemporary cities, JHK derided plans to rebuild the old Schloss of the Hohenzollerns in Berlin, damaged by the war and torn down by the communists, a reconstructed Schloss is opening. It adds much-needed dignity to Berlin.

    One thing JHK made note of was how problematic modern architecture is. I know at downtown St. Louis, AT&T built a 40 story building alongside its 1925 headquarters. When AT&T moved its HQ to Dallas, a lot of cuts were made, and eventually the 40 story tombstone was abandoned, and now, it’s a mess, with leaking plumbing, bad walls, elevators out of repair…it would take millions to repair it, and no one wants it. The 23 story 1925 building needs work, but it’s still chugging along, and people enjoy walking through its marble lobby. i don’t think a lot of modern architecture ages well.

    It’s true Teddy Roosevelt helped encouraged classical form in American architecture and design, although there was a panel made by Tiffany in the White House, and TR had it destroyed…he wouldn’t let it be saved. Roosevelt considered Tiffany to be a sissy.

    No one’s commented on the Oscars. Not sad at that, but I did like that Laura Derns, getting her Oscar, said it was a shame Greta Gerwig couldn’t have been nominated. Gerwig’s Little Women was a delight and very good cinema and adaptation, but critics openly said it was ‘too white.’ Good for you, Laura.

    • Cargill February 12, 2020 at 5:02 pm #

      I also dislike the assertion that neoclassical architecture is always fascist, and must be avoided to create more bauhaus.

      Did anyone go so far as to say that? I dislike the flip-side notion from JHK that Modernism | International Style is a symptom of the disease of “Progressiveness”. I think that’s all hooey, and said so.

      And why are nice positive terms like ‘liberal’ and ‘progressive’ used as forms of abuse in America? You are a very strange people when it comes to politics.

      • Nightowl February 13, 2020 at 4:04 am #

        Emoted the Russia Truther.

        BTW, when do we get an update on Trump’s impeachable “crimes” and the hard evidence for those mysterious acts?

        You’ve had weeks to come up with something.

        Bueller?

    • tucsonspur February 12, 2020 at 5:12 pm #

      I liked Laura in “Wild at Heart”, “Blue Velvet”, etc. An almost inexpressibly sensuous femininity.

  83. tucsonspur February 12, 2020 at 5:43 pm #

    Will Booty Gig become the most powerful person on Earth, leader of the free world? It’s all extremely appalling. Another slickster out of Harvard, a fruitcake of a hayseed blowing in from Indiana and almost beating Bernie Sanders in NH. Wow!

    Another weasel who’s wriggled out of the womb of Wokesterism, with the smooth, cool presence of Balack and the ability to climb political peaks without any real muscle. Those who voted for him are fine examples of the muddled mind set that is taking over America.

    He and his husband leading the world. How precious, how woke the thought, how easily the mind can be caught.

    • BackRowHeckler February 12, 2020 at 6:08 pm #

      At the Inaugural Ball, its customary for the new President and his wife to dance together near the end of the night. We’ll get to see President Buttgieg and his husband Chasten dancing cheek to cheek … what a tender moment that will be, not to mention making a big impression on Putin, Xi, Young Kim and the Mullahs in Iran.

      Brh

    • malthuss February 12, 2020 at 8:13 pm #

      hayseed? I thought that is a hick…buttgigs dad is -if alive or was a commie who moved to USA to destroy it, imo.

      He couldnt but PB will try.

    • Cargill February 13, 2020 at 12:30 am #

      Will Booty Gig become the most powerful person on Earth, leader of the free world?

      I’m not at all convinced that the president of the US (not just the current incumbent) is either of these. But never mind.

      Those who voted for him are fine examples of the muddled mind set that is taking over America.

      One of the truly striking aspects of current US politics (at least from the point of view of this informed and interested outsider) is that the Republican Party (and in particular the more lunar right-wing end of it) has no commitment to democracy whatsoever.

      There seems to be widely held view that the Republicans should be in power forever – everyone from the dogcatcher in Podunk through to the Justices on the Supreme Court (who are in fact there forever).

      There seems no commitment to a contest between two major parties, plus some minor ones, and that the reins of government might (and in a healthy society definitely should) be rotated fairly regularly.

      It seems the attitude is that the Democratic Party is seen as not fit to be in the contest, and that anyone who votes for them is not far short of being a traitor – or at least mentally defective.

      It’s all very peculiar.

      • Cargill February 13, 2020 at 12:46 am #

        I must make sure I get the end-italic mark-up right …

      • tucsonspur February 13, 2020 at 2:12 am #

        World resource depletion, among other things, will force governments to become more tyrannical. The ideas of the philosophers of the Enlightenment like Voltaire, Locke or Rousseau, which helped shape our Constitution and led to our democratic republic and two party system will be passe’. All too soon it will be rebels and tyrants only.

        While that eventuality is certain to come about, the situation now is something different. I’m sure that I join many Republicans in the belief that once Democrats gain power and control, they will most likely hold onto it until the collapse, around the time of our Tricentennial, maybe sooner. They won the popular vote by 3 million in the last election, and their immigration policies plan to increase those numbers, policies that will also target states with questionable electoral demographics, eventually leading to a de facto one party system.

        So, the idea of ‘commitment to contests’ between parties would make no sense, since in actuality there would be no contest.

        It is my view that we will be far better off with Republicans in power with strong borders, effective police, and a mighty, muscular military when the hard times come.

        • ellipsis February 13, 2020 at 4:57 am #

          World resource depletion, among other things, will force governments to become more tyrannical.

          Excellent point! Although I’m not sure I’d use the phrase “force to.” More like “opportunistically embrace the chance to.”

          It is my view that we will be far better off with Republicans in power with strong borders, effective police, and a mighty, muscular military when the hard times come.

          Trouble is, our “mighty, muscular military isn’t, and hasn’t been for at least 50 years or so now. It’s been sold off to the contractors (Boeing, Lockheed, et. al.) who have been feeding off the carcass of the fatted calf for so long now they no longer have the capability or the interest in making things that actually work. Republicans are interested in the exact same things their corrupt Dem counterparts are: protecting the interests of the rich and powerful, which is to say the Zionist globalist pig elite who truly live without borders or limits of any kind. Everything else is just smoke and mirrors.

          And not for nothing, the greatly feared quasi-socialist Bernie Sanders is also for the most part a supporter of a strong and muscular foreign policy, so the idea that he would represent some kind of sea change in the history of US governance is completely fallacious. He’s appearing to be much more of a Jimmy Carter type, appealing to Americans’ long-missing “better nature,” than anything else, which means he would likely be a one and done, flush that stinky turd down the pipes kind of president, who would set the Dems even further back than they are now, not that that would be any great tragedy in the least.

          • tucsonspur February 13, 2020 at 5:51 am #

            Well, Trump has certainly been funding the military, so I would hope that things are improving. Similarities of interest between both parties as you said, but I believe that it’s generally safe to say that Trump has put America’s interests before that of the globalists.

            The Dems, with their immigration and diversity positions are pure poison. Interesting Bernie-Carter comparison.

        • Cargill February 13, 2020 at 12:44 pm #

          They won the popular vote by 3 million in the last election, and their immigration policies plan to increase those numbers, policies that will also target states with questionable electoral demographics, eventually leading to a de facto one party system.

          Thank you … I think you proved my point very nicely. And you are joking I trust, and not just profoundly misinformed: the Republican Party has close to a vice-like grip on power, and laugh cynically at the alleged democratic system.

          They have worked assiduously and viciously, at least since 1980 but in reality longer than that, to ensure they corrupt every process and institution, in order to hold power, essentially in perpetuity.

          They are the party of plutocrats, of oligarchs, billionaires, millionaires, and almost every corporation in the military-industrial complex.

          Hence they represent the interests of say 10% of the population who own a huge proportion of total wealth … but they use and abuse every trick they can to get a plurality of votes.

          By any rational analysis, 90% of the population (including everyone on this forum) have no interests in, and nothing to gain but much to lose from, voting for the Republican elites, so why do they?

          Firstly, the Republicans control the process in a large number of states:

          – strong bias towards rural districts
          – staggeringly blatant gerrymandering
          – blatantly biased election management
          – formal and “legal” voter suppression
          – outrageous voter ID regulations
          – active voter discouragement (too few polling stations, too little pre-polling, short hours, etc)

          And of course the Electoral College,plus the two-senators per state, give them a huge election bias.

          And there are the bigger arm-waving tricks that get them power:

          – stacked Federal Courts
          – so litigate everything (stripping power from the people)
          – heavily pro-Republican election finance laws
          – play the race card (only the Repubs can save you from big black monsters)
          – play the fruit-loop god card
          – and its subsets: anti-women’s rights, anti-gay, etc
          – play the immigration card
          – play the Jewish conspiracy card
          – of course the immigration card

          All of these oogoo-boogoo scare tactics play every day … and on this forum in just about every second post.

          And of course the mainstream media is 99% pro-Republican – or if not strictly so, they normalise all these distortions and GOP corruption – their infuriating “both-siderism” giving the impression that the Dems are actually a force.

          The much-vaunted founding fathers were deathly scared of true democracy – they were the comfortable ruling elite, after all. They planted the seeds of a system that would keep popular representation in serious check, and they have succeeded beyond even their own wildest dreams, I suspect.

          In a genuine democracy, the people’s house (fairly elected) is where power should lie, but in the US it comes in about fourth or fifth – after the president, administration, federal courts, senate, corporate power (the Fed etc), and the truly vast intelligence | security apparatus.

          Democracy barely gets a mention in all that – from the point of view of the Democratic Party. The swamp is swampy indeed, and the deep state is deep indeed – but all pro-Republican.

          But all this essentially permanent still not enough – it’s astonishing how many people still believe that it is the Republican Party (which many equate with “America”) is the body under threat … whereas nothing could be further from the truth.

          In fact, it’s the complete opposite – and the remaining set of aspiring Democratic Party nominees does not fill anyone with confidence.

          And I suggest it’s high time that people stop bleating on about the insidious threat to the commonwealth that the Democrats are – it’s just right-wing hype and part of the culture war, to get the poor rubes scared, and running to the false protection of the Republican Party.

          Wool being pulled over eyes comes to mind.

          • tucsonspur February 13, 2020 at 6:16 pm #

            Response to Cargill above.

            Too much muddled thinking to dissect in time.
            But let’s just look at what you said here:

            “Thank you … I think you proved my point very nicely. And you are joking I trust, and not just profoundly misinformed: the Republican Party has close to a vice-like grip on power, and laugh cynically at the alleged democratic system.”

            Looking at more recent history, since the early 1990’s, the Democrats have held the presidency for 16 years and the Republicans going on twelve. In addition, the Democrats have controlled both the Congress and the presidency for a few years in 1993 and 2009, while the Repubs did so in the early 2000’s and in 2017.

            Going back further, from 1932 to 1992, Democrats held the presidency for 32 years and the Repubs 28. Also, from 1933 to 1995, Repubs have held both the House and Senate for only four years.

            Some would say you’re on your ass and out of gas.

          • Cargill February 14, 2020 at 1:02 am #

            Since 1952 (the year of my birth) the Republicans have held the presidency for 40 years (nearly), while Democrats have held it for just 28. And in general a large percentage of state governorships and legislatures.

            The main point I am making is that – given the Republican Party is unashamedly the party of the small wealthy minority – how does it win anything at all?

            And I outlined, they have used every imaginable trick to either suppress the Democrat vote (and voters), rig the system with gerrymanders and much else, and by relying on a compliant and complacent media to boost their cause.

  84. 100th Avatar February 12, 2020 at 6:00 pm #

    What about Gaudi’s Modern-isme? A style of architecture rooted in the organic, that despite representing a departure from the classic, embraced nature. Curves over rays. Detail over austere.
    I suppose WWI snuffed that out too.
    That and the bourgeoisie attachment to it.
    The aspirational classes ruin everything.

  85. wwg1wga February 12, 2020 at 6:55 pm #

    *************************************************
    Aligning for the Fallout.
    http://www.got-truth.com/docs/Aligning%20for%20the%20Fallout.pdf
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  86. K-Dog February 12, 2020 at 7:04 pm #

    Elites of various sort in the media and whatever tend to downplay the power of the people. The power of everyday ordinary people no matter what color, what gender, what sexual orientation, religious or non-religious identity they may be. They downplay our power and they should not do that, for when they do we come back strong.

    The top priority of voters in New Hampshire was beating Donald Trump. Why is Bernie the best candidate to do that? Because you need somebody with vision, excitement, and enthusiasm to beat a neo-fascist gangster pig like Donald Trump.

    He’s got a lot of excitement on the other side we got excitement on our side but we’ve got a moral and spiritual dimension. You’ll see it makes the difference.

    • 100th Avatar February 12, 2020 at 7:36 pm #

      Is it moral and spiritual?
      Honestly?

      It’s really about getting stuff, and if not getting stuff, at least denying those that get all the stuff to get more stuff. Noble that may be, it’s ultimately guided by greed. Or envy.

      Humans are 1 dimensional.
      They want. The need.
      Minds are programmed for the next thing.
      Most don’t know what the next thing is (’cause really we have everything to survive) and that’s where the marketers step in.
      They let you know what you need.
      But it doesn’t fill the void. It can’t be.
      If you’re one that needs.
      That’s where the politicians step in.
      Or the celebrity activists.
      Or plain activists.
      They tell you what you need.
      Something spiritual. Something righteous,
      Alas, that doesn’t fit the need.
      It makes you angry.
      Because what you need is to not want, not want to need.
      Ohmmmmmmmmmmmmm

      • K-Dog February 12, 2020 at 8:07 pm #

        I quite like the rest of that but this,

        Noble that may be, it’s ultimately guided by greed. Or envy.

        I dispute that. The desire to seek the infinite transcending to something beyond oneself is the apex of need. Greed is low strata. Greed is based in exclusivity but inclusivity is needed to relate to holistic need.

        • K-Dog February 12, 2020 at 8:12 pm #

          That sounds funny. There are needs that must be met to make a complete holistic balanced human being. Several ingredients all required for a healthy life. A healthy life includes many things and greed excludes many things.

      • tucsonspur February 13, 2020 at 2:28 am #

        Market the greed, feed the need:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6WTspFrbik

    • BackRowHeckler February 12, 2020 at 10:44 pm #

      Too bad Bernie Sandals is an Old Bolshevik.

      And I stress the word Old.

      For krissake can’t you come with a candidate that would at least give your side a fighting chance? And where is the ‘morality’ of putting an 80 yo man with a bad heart out on the huskings to campaign for president, say, next summer in Texas, 105°F heat, humidity at 100%, no air to speak of, and fanatical, sweating crowds of illegal aliens and millenials (with huge student loan balances) closing in?

      What could possibly go wrong here?

      Brh

      • ellipsis February 13, 2020 at 4:39 am #

        Bernie’s “movement,” if you can call it that, will ultimately be judged by its staying power, which is to say, its ability to form a coalition, and even more importantly, pass the torch to the next generation. Way too early to tell at this point, but color me still skeptical. There’s far more heavy lifting ahead of them – not least of which is actually governing should they get the opportunity – than they can currently conceive of. At this point, just getting the Dem nomination will be a very tall order indeed. I still believe the Queen HRC will play a very large part in all that as the flies begin to drop.

        • BackRowHeckler February 13, 2020 at 7:37 am #

          Hey Ellipsis

          You’re pretty good at analyzing this sh#t. Good insight there.

          Some of Sanders stated initiatives… banning fossil fuels, jailing coal and oil company executives for Climate Crimes, letting illegal alien criminals vote from federal prison, abolishing ICE and opening US borders … if he could get these programs thru with the help of a Dem senate and congress, it would be interesting to see how he would deal with the resultant chaos. For example, if meddling in the energy markets ended up with people in winter freezing to death in Michigan because natgas and heating oil became too expensive, or not available, what would he do? His fanatical climate warrior supporters would be pressuring him to ‘stay the course’. Perhaps he’d create a new massive national police force to enforce his Climate and Immigration edicts, and turn it loose on the American people, come what may.

          Brh

  87. malthuss February 12, 2020 at 8:11 pm #

    duke 88

    Three members of the “Duke 88” have been hired by other leading universities. One of them is the execrable Houston Baker. As I wrote here:

    The demagogic Baker excoriated the lacrosse team for their “silent whiteness” and their “white, male, athletic privilege.”

    He called for the “immediate dismissals” by Duke of “the team itself and its players,” to combat the “abhorrent sexual assault, verbal racial violence, and drunken white male privilege loosed amongst us.” After the innocence of the accused players had become clear, Baker received an email from the mother of a member of the lacrosse team (who hadn’t been accused) asking if he would reconsider his earlier statements. Baker responded, by typing “LIES” and indicating that his correspondent was the mother of a “farm animal.”

    Eventually Baker, a post-modernist if nothing else, fell back to arguing that it didn’t matter whether the rape allegations were true.

  88. elysianfield February 12, 2020 at 11:22 pm #

    Well, ladies and germs;

    The BBC reports, just minutes ago, that there is new news regarding the Kung Flu.

    It ain’t necessarily positive.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51482994

    There were also an increase in the numbers of the known infected on the Hell Ships…

    Did I say “Hell ships”?…I meant floating petri dishes….

    • elysianfield February 12, 2020 at 11:24 pm #

      There were also an increase…

      was also an increase….

    • Janos Skorenzy February 13, 2020 at 1:10 am #

      Confine them to their cabins, breathing the recycled air until everyone gets it, then bring them home to infect all of America.

      • Cargill February 13, 2020 at 3:55 am #

        Perhaps the Coronavirus can’t survive the pretty polluted air found on cruise ships – even on the best of days.

      • elysianfield February 13, 2020 at 3:22 pm #

        Janos,
        The Raconteur is in full fettle regarding the reportage of the hell ships…even some links to a person blogging ON the damned thing.

        http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/

        Pandemic porn at it’s finest.

        • elysianfield February 13, 2020 at 3:25 pm #

          …while on the damned thing. He is a graduate of Grand Canyon University with a degree in…wait for it…faith based marketing. I shit you not.

          …Psst…wanna buy a sliver of the true cross? Got it off of Ebay and no longer need it….

  89. Janos Skorenzy February 13, 2020 at 1:22 am #

    Attention John Az and all other Trump Cultist Suckers.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/02/12/trump-calls-microsoft-amazon-google-apple-maga-companies/4737903002/

    Not that if will do any good – they don’t remember why they voted for Trump now or what he stood for. They will just assume an imaginary continuity and accept that this was always what he said and why they voted as they did.

    When Adam fell, he lost his not only his Supernatural Life, but even his natural integrity of believing and speaking and acting all in accordance with each other. A man who says what he means and means what he says is almost a Superman by modern standards. Add to that knowing what is Right of course.

    • Cargill February 13, 2020 at 3:12 am #

      Trump has attempted to get companies such as Apple to bring back to the USA revenue generated overseas and to create jobs here.

      The profits certainly line the pockets of Apple owners, and they avoid taxes in the countries where they make revenue. But creating jobs back in America, when you have big cheap factories in Asia?

      Good luck with that, Donald!

    • ellipsis February 13, 2020 at 4:31 am #

      Yes! Trump continues to reveal his essential Trumpness. Only the true believers were ever deceived.

    • tucsonspur February 13, 2020 at 5:11 am #

      So begins the conversion. Adulation turns to aversion and aspersion, and the quest begins to find the next vaunted version to vilify.

      Who Then will we abandon? Who now but Trump?

      How about a Bloomberg – Klobuchar ticket, huh, huh?

      How about the Rocksucker and the Socialist? Huh, huh?

      Right, the first one could be formidable.

    • BackRowHeckler February 13, 2020 at 7:43 am #

      So who are you backing, Vlad?

      Hint: the Fuhrer isn’t running.

      • akmofo February 13, 2020 at 9:04 am #

        “Ousted Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch Will Be Honored At Georgetown”
        ==

        Georgetown is a Vatican hive of sedition.

        Vlad’s Fuehrer wears a Dagon Fish Hat and always did. We know where these Satanists get their orders. If you look at all the commies the fascists the nazis the socialists the progressives, they all are wearing Vatican Medals of Honor.

        Nothing is coincidence
        Nothing is by accident
        Everything is planned

      • Janos Skorenzy February 13, 2020 at 12:55 pm #

        Who are you “rooting” for – like a pig? Pats or Stealers? The Sports Betting model of politics. Thank you for reminding me of who and what ordinary people are.

        The Pats withered on the vine and became Republicans and Corporate lackeys. The Stealers do the work of Robin Hood and redistribute what the hoarders keep for themselves. Trouble is they want to open the borders and let the whole world in, with the really deserving people (Whites) last in line.

        Whites only become deserving in their eyes when they are transformed into Homos or Feminists or Race mixers, etc.

  90. tucsonspur February 13, 2020 at 3:11 am #

    The genius of…..

    It’s Alright, Ma (I’m Only Bleeding)
    Bob Dylan

    Darkness at the break of noon
    Shadows even the silver spoon
    The handmade blade, the child’s balloon
    Eclipses both the sun and moon
    To understand you know too soon
    There is no sense in trying

    Pointed threats, they bluff with scorn
    Suicide remarks are torn
    From the fool’s gold mouthpiece
    The hollow horn plays wasted words
    Proves to warn that he not busy being born
    Is busy dying

    Temptation’s page flies out the door
    You follow, find yourself at war
    Watch waterfalls of pity roar
    You feel to moan but unlike before
    You discover that you’d just be
    One more person crying

    So don’t fear if you hear
    A foreign sound to your ear
    It’s alright, Ma, I’m only sighing

    As some warn victory, some downfall
    Private reasons great or small
    Can be seen in the eyes of those that call
    To make all that should be killed to crawl
    While others say don’t hate nothing at all
    Except hatred

    Disillusioned words like bullets bark
    As human gods aim for their mark
    Made everything from toy guns that spark
    To flesh-colored Christs that glow in the dark
    It’s easy to see without looking too far
    That not much is really sacred

    While preachers preach of evil fates
    Teachers teach that knowledge waits
    Can lead to hundred-dollar plates
    Goodness hides behind its gates
    But even the president of the United States
    Sometimes must have to stand naked

    An’ though the rules of the road have been lodged
    It’s only people’s games that you got to dodge
    And it’s alright, Ma, I can make it

    Advertising signs that con you
    Into thinking you’re the one
    That can do what’s never been done
    That can win what’s never been won
    Meantime life outside goes on
    All around you

    You lose yourself, you reappear
    You suddenly find you got nothing to fear
    Alone you stand with nobody near
    When a trembling distant voice, unclear
    Startles your sleeping ears to hear
    That somebody thinks they really found you

    A question in your nerves is lit
    Yet you know there is no answer fit to satisfy
    Insure you not to quit
    To keep it in your mind and not fergit
    That it is not he or she or them or it
    That you belong to

    Although the masters make the rules
    For the wise men and the fools
    I got nothing, Ma, to live up to

    For them that must obey authority
    That they do not respect in any degree
    Who despise their jobs, their destinies
    Speak jealously of them that are free
    Do what they do just to be nothing more than something they invest in

    While some on principles baptized
    To strict party platform ties
    Social clubs in drag disguise
    Outsiders they can freely criticize
    Tell nothing except who to idolize
    And then say God bless him

    While one who sings with his tongue on fire
    Gargles in the rat race choir
    Bent out of shape from society’s pliers
    Cares not to come up any higher
    But rather get you down in the hole that he’s in

    But I mean no harm nor put fault
    On anyone that lives in a vault
    But it’s alright, Ma, if I can’t please him

    Old lady judges watch people in pairs
    Limited in sex, they dare
    To push fake morals, insult and stare
    While money doesn’t talk, it swears
    Obscenity, who really cares
    Propaganda, all is phony

    While them that defend what they cannot see
    With a killer’s pride, security
    It blows the minds most bitterly
    For them that think death’s honesty
    Won’t fall upon them naturally
    Life sometimes must get lonely

    My eyes collide head-on with stuffed graveyards
    False gods, I scuff
    At pettiness which plays so rough
    Walk upside-down inside handcuffs
    Kick my legs to crash it off
    Say okay, I have had enough
    What else can you show me

    And if my thought-dreams could be seen
    They’d probably put my head in a guillotine
    But it’s alright, Ma, it’s life, and life only.

    • elysianfield February 13, 2020 at 12:00 pm #

      Tucson,
      You know, Bob wrote that in 1964. When first heard, in about 1965, I understood the words, but did not agree with their meaning. Was he being prescient?

      No. I do not believe he was. I, after 50+ years of life now recognize the truth in his(then thought) cynical piece. He was describing life in the United States at the apogee of power and prestige. I, in my youth and ignorance, did not, could not believe the message.

      What the song imports is that life is a constant shit-show, and doesn’t seem to change, considering what we are experiencing now, it only SEEMS prescient.

    • BackRowHeckler February 13, 2020 at 12:36 pm #

      That’s why. Dylan got a Nobel Prize.

      • malthuss February 13, 2020 at 11:36 pm #

        sex pistols refused RRHOF award.

  91. tucsonspur February 13, 2020 at 5:21 am #

    ‘Jimmy Looks Twice’ for president!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrCOFUpRg8w

  92. SoftStarLight February 13, 2020 at 9:25 am #

    So it does actually look like covid-19 can penetrate hazmat suits. Apparently a Japanese health worker who was attending to passengers on the Diamond Princess cruise ship docked near Tokyo has become infected with the virus. It was reported that this person was decked out in full hazmat gear. Now there is also evidence that the virus can spread very far and wide through the air. 80% of the cases are supposedly mild flu-like symptoms. So what happens once you have recovered but then come across the virus again? That’s why they still have not come up with a vaccine for SARS you know. You can’t really develop immunity to it apparently and in animal testing of potential vaccines the second exposure to the virus after “immunization” apparently results in more severe expressions of the disease. Now it is making more sense as to why China has locked down almost 500 million. Did they ever even act in this way with SARS? No wonder some are convinced that they opened Pandora’s Box.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 13, 2020 at 1:00 pm #

      Maybe when he took it off it got him? Skin contact with the suit – maybe it can go thru skin? Or it doesn’t adhere to surfaces very well and becoming airborne, he breathed it in.

  93. Nightowl February 13, 2020 at 9:40 am #

    Check out this side-by-side video comp. of Warren repeating extended memorized talking points. Vids even sync perfectly in several spots.

    https://twitter.com/AndrewPollackFL/status/1227609895056400387

    LOL

    • Tate February 13, 2020 at 2:15 pm #

      At least voters have seen through the fake veneer of the Warren robot judging by New Hampshire but all they’ve done is transferred their loyalty to the little gei CIA droid, a slicker version of the Warren droid. Our system generates millions of these creatures. Trump’s only virtue is that he’s rough-edged.

  94. capt spaulding February 13, 2020 at 12:08 pm #

    Another heat record set in Antarctica. 68F, highest temp recorded in Antarctica.

  95. RIB February 13, 2020 at 12:19 pm #

    Bullshit:https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/antarctica

    By the way, Captain , it’s equivalent of August in the Southern Hemisphere right now. If you’re geographically challenged, Antarctica is in the Southern Hemisphere This link has the current temperatures at various bases in Antarctica, You need to see an optometrist, “Captain.”

  96. BackRowHeckler February 13, 2020 at 12:40 pm #

    Current temp. at the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station: -40°F.

    Who’s bullshitting who, Captain? Or should I say, who’s bullshitting who, Captain, Sir?

    Brh

    • GreenAlba February 13, 2020 at 3:17 pm #

      brh

      You do know that that Antarctica doesn’t stop at the South Pole, don’t you? Just like the temperature in Florida isn’t the same as the temperature in Connecticut, even though it’s the same country?

      The 20.75 C reading is from 9th February. Today isn’t 9th February, so the temperature today at Seymour Island (look it up, it’s not at the South Pole) isn’t the same as it was on 9th February.

      There’s a graph on here that includes 9th February – and yesterday.

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/13/antarctic-temperature-rises-above-20c-first-time-record

      If you don’t like it, then don’t like it. Nobody’s making you like it.

      But you know that thing where the ice melts into the sea? It happens at the edges, where the sea is.

      • BackRowHeckler February 13, 2020 at 5:07 pm #

        I’ve been reading more about those Australian Bush fires. About every 10 years or so those things erupt, the worst being 1939, as I’ve previously mentioned. Cartographer, pirate and explorer William Damphier noted massive Australian fires in his diaries written in the early 17th century.

        The worst wildfire in the American west: 1910.

        Period of the most destructive hurricanes hitting the US east coast: 1925-1938.

        “There’s nothing new under the sun.” -ecclesiastes.

        Brh

        • GreenAlba February 13, 2020 at 6:21 pm #

          Indeed, brh, there’s nothing new under the sun. Until there is.

        • BackRowHeckler February 13, 2020 at 7:06 pm #

          Tell you what, if the sun ever comes out again, and it warms up around here, I’ll take a drive to the coast, about 40 miles away, order seafood, and walk over to waters edge and check for ‘catastrophic sea level rise’. I haven’t been there in about 5 months, a long enough time for civilization ending rising tides we hear is imminent. I give you an honest report on what I find.

          Fair enough?

          • akmofo February 13, 2020 at 7:15 pm #

            But you are NOT AN EXPERT !!

          • akmofo February 13, 2020 at 7:20 pm #

            You are NOT AN EXPERT and don’t you work for THE GUARDIAN, so why should our commie well “educated” believe anything you say?

          • akmofo February 13, 2020 at 7:22 pm #

            don’t work for THE GUARDIAN

          • GreenAlba February 13, 2020 at 9:36 pm #

            I wouldn’t work for the GUARDIAN either, akmofo. We can agree on that one.

          • GreenAlba February 13, 2020 at 9:37 pm #

            brh, I hope your ruler’s got millimetres on it.

            And be careful lighting matches – there seem to be straw men everywhere over your way. 🙂

          • akmofo February 13, 2020 at 10:37 pm #

            Well, none of us are experts, but we could at least insist on BRH following a scientific method. Like for example, taking for consideration the electrostatic magnetic pull of the moon on our water, taking for consideration the strength of the wind and its direction, taking for consideration continental drift, taking for consideration the time of year, taking for consideration solar radiation emissions, and many such other considerations which I’m sure our experts and their commie propagandists took into account. Or maybe they didn’t?

            What say you, Mrs Green, you doubtlessly gone over such details in your search for the truth, are these considerations BRH should be concern with to complete with our experts?

          • GreenAlba February 14, 2020 at 8:40 am #

            I think you’ll find, akmofo, that they have taken account of everything you could mention and more besides that you’ve never even thought of. And quite likely since before you were born, although that’s just an impression.

          • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 9:09 am #

            Just an impression? Based on.. Faith?
            Mrs Green, you will find that good faith and honesty does not pay their salaries, but Vatican commie political agendas does. Guess who and what remains employed in such situations? Terror leaves an awful impression, and the Vatican is a master of it.

          • GreenAlba February 14, 2020 at 11:46 am #

            “Just an impression? Based on.. Faith?”

            The impression was referring to your age, akmofo. I think of you as relatively young. 🙂

          • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 5:14 pm #

            Mrs Green, I’m as old as the universe. But I have the eyes of a child. For how long, before I’m completely spoiled by experience, I don’t know. Like you, I came close to death with Cancer. I was unconscious in the ICU for 2 weeks from the infections caused by my melanoma tumor that was the size of my head. Finally, my oncologist relented and gave me the immuno-drugs I asked for but would not receive because I refused traditional Chemo and Radiation treatment first. While I was sick I felt death. It never scared me. My mom died from cancer one year later. There’s not a day that goes by that I’m not in tears, and that I don’t dream of hugging her in my sleep. I feel orphaned without her. She was an angel. A real angel, and her name was love. She traded her life for mine. I know that’s what she did. I feel more death than when I was sick and more death than sick old dying people. That’s how young I am, Mrs Green.

  97. BackRowHeckler February 13, 2020 at 12:45 pm #

    Current temp Arctic: -25°F

    There’s your weather report from Ice Station Z, top and bottom.

  98. volodya February 13, 2020 at 12:53 pm #

    You can put your spine out of place laughing at the antics of people talking and acting like they’re – cough – cutting edge, putting together the most laughably illogical propositions, be they commercial trade dispensations that have no hope in hell, or incomprehensible gender classifications with correspondingly baffling bath-room arrangements or intricate hierarchies of societal grievance which increase in complexity by the hour. 

    Or what looks like self-destruct architecture, buildings that not only don’t look habitable by terrestrials, or look capable of standing the stresses of time, but don’t even look like they have the innards to withstand a mild tremor which have been known to happen now and again, even in the most geologically stable places. 

    Yeah, yeah, leave it to the experts (I choke on the word) but I look at paper-thin walls of towering condominium buildings as they’re going up, and the sheets of glass clothing the structure, rising hundreds of feet into the air, and my eyes tell me that this is calamity in the making. 

    What happens in architectural schools and design shops? Does anyone know? I don’t. Do they build things five times as strong as they need to be? Or just barely tough enough to stay up because material cost is the be-all and end-all? Do they kid themselves that risks of collapse are within acceptable parameters?

    Yes, I know, I’m just a simple mule-skinner, but I look at that temple in Rome – still in use as a church – that’s been there for two thousand years, and the colossal edifice that’s now Saint Peter’s (which will soon fall to the arithmetic of demography and become a mosque), but which has been standing for hundreds of years. Or the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul. Just look at what they did without the benefit of modern machinery and energy sources and CAD software. Does any of the shit they’re building now hold a candle to any of that in terms of durability or appearance?    

    I don’t have the mental wheels to do what our esteemed host did in his commentary. I just have a sense of what’s ugly and won’t work and won’t stand up, and the crap they’re building looks all that. 

  99. volodya February 13, 2020 at 12:59 pm #

    And Hope Hicks is going back to the West Wing.

  100. wpa_ccc February 13, 2020 at 2:20 pm #

    Yeah, yeah, leave it to the experts (I choke on the word) –volodya

    Next time you need surgery, volodya, ignore the expert surgeons. Insist instead on a secretary or janitor or electrician, none of whom have expertise in surgical procedures. That way you will choke no more.

    • GreenAlba February 13, 2020 at 6:28 pm #

      Quite so, wpa. In fact, while I’d have to revisit the details, I think I recall the head honcho at Camp Funsten in Haskell County, Kansas, was advised by a *cough* expert (indeed, a ‘cough expert’) to quarantine his men after Patient Zero had spread the ‘flu around a bit at the base.

      But he didn’t like *cough* experts either, so tens of millions of people didn’t choke on the word ‘expert’, but rather on their own blood-soaked lungs.

      Experts, eh – who’d give them the time of day?

      • GreenAlba February 13, 2020 at 6:32 pm #

        Although I agree about shitty modern architecture.

    • BackRowHeckler February 13, 2020 at 4:12 pm #

      Oh yeah, RIB, I’ve been following it.

      Upshot is, two solid black dudes, legs like tree trunks, muscular as hell, (one of them had played varsity football) with beards and mustaches, put pink ribbons in their hair, declared they were now female, and demanded entry into girls CIAC track events. How could you stop them? Well, they won every event they entered, and broke all longstanding records. Needless to say lefties and trans rights agitators, including teachers unions and local sports writers loved it, fawned all over them. They were striking a blow for trans rights! To hell with the females who cares about them? They need to get out of the way. Only problem is, real girls who had trained hard and expected a level playing field, some of whom were hoping for track scholarships, suddenly discovered they were getting the short end. Who could have predicted the Freak Show would take this direction, but there it is.

      Brh

  101. RIB February 13, 2020 at 3:57 pm #

    https://www.timeanddate.com/weather/@6625088/historic

    Here’s the AVERAGE temperatures for Seymour Island. That high 68 degree day was a ONE TIME thing , not a trend. It’s no different than a 104 degree temperature day back in July of 2010 which took place in my town in RI. Of course dipshits like Captain Spaulding and Green Alba never had a statistics course and/or were probably reading True Romance or Tiger Beat during any science courses they were forced to take. It’s amazing how dumb and uninformed “posters” like Green Alba and her ilk, can’t distinguish between a trend and a one time occurrence. You’re a fucking twit, and a one trick pony, Alba

    • GreenAlba February 13, 2020 at 5:04 pm #

      RIB

      Do you have some kind of predilection for making an arse of yourself?

      Did anyone say the temperature on 9th February was anything other than the temperature on 9th February? It remains a record.

      You invited the captain to have his eyes tested, and now here you are backtracking and accepting that there was nothing whatever wrong with his eyesight, so you’re desperately flailing about throwing straw men about the place.

      Better to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and leave no doubt. You could have just put your fingers in your ears and sung la la la instead of embarrassing yourself.

      And yes I did a stats course, but when I was doing undergraduate economics, not when I was doing science and loving it. So I know what a trend is, even if you have difficulty with the concept.

      Unlike you, I’m not familiar with True Romance or Tiger Beat. I guess they’re American phenomena, like climate science denial.

      One trick pony? Hardly. Why, just yesterday I increased your education about the origins of Spanish ‘flu, on this very thread where I’ve been pretty quiet.

      Maybe lie down and have a cool beer, RIB. I know reality can be hard to cope with some days and it makes you swear at people when you’ve got nothing intelligent to offer. Bless.

      • K-Dog February 13, 2020 at 5:16 pm #

        I got an email from Q with the following info. He was writing to say he could not log onto my website. When I get back to working on it I will have to add a way to change passwords. A couple of people have actually left a comment so Q might have a password issue. Since he was emailing me he gave me this to pass along. Why I’m his mule I do not know, but it is OK.

        “My son Thom is taking courses leading toward a degree in nursing. In December he read and summarized a massively researched book titled The Great Influenza by John M. Barry. Thom’s 7 page report contained this sentence: It is thought to have originated in Haskell County, Kansas, an agricultural center with ranching and farmer populations in close proximity to livestock (Barry 90-95).

        • GreenAlba February 13, 2020 at 5:49 pm #

          RIB, my dear, let it go. If there’s one thing more embarrassing than a moron, it’s a Very Angry Moron.

          “probably is huddled in a London slum, using a public library computer”

          Haha. Hahahahahaha. Hahahahahahahaha. You should pay more attention.

          Bless. 🙂

          “By the way, I don’t drink ,smoke or use drugs.”

          Thank gawd. The last thing we need from you is more moron.

          • GreenAlba February 13, 2020 at 5:49 pm #

            Sorry, K-Dog, that was intended for the moron.

        • GreenAlba February 13, 2020 at 5:54 pm #

          That’s an interesting coincidence, K-Dog! Glad to know Q’s well, from your various messages.

          It’s a fascinating story. And the key points should perhaps include that (a) as it says at the end of Barry’s article that I posted, a virus can cross the species barrier into humans pretty much anywhere, whether a sparsely populated farming region in Kansas or a densely populated area in Asia, and (b) finding someone to blame isn’t the most important thing (otherwise that would be a heavy burden for Haskell County, Kansas to bear, quite inappropriately). Although it seems some dumb decisions were made, in the early stages, against medical advice.

          Shit happens, quite literally in fact, since wild birds crap literally everywhere all the time. 🙂

      • RIB February 13, 2020 at 5:27 pm #

        You and Spaulding grasped at it (the record Antarctica temperature) like a drowning man grasps at a life preserver, did’t you? You and your ilk pounce on any odd deviation from the norm and run with like a thief stealing a pair of Queen Liz’s knickers. You can’t fool me with your bluster Alba. Spaulding, your dipshit poster-in-arms, posts a temperature like it was hot off the press. Big fucking deal. It got to almost 70 degrees at the northern most island off the coast of Antarctica the summer. A one day event for a one trick pony. That must have sent shivers up your spine, eh, Alba? More proof that the child from the far north, aka known as Gruesome Greta truly is the climate savant you “progressives” think she is. You’re a fool, Alba…a one trick pony fool, who probably is huddled in a London slum, using a public library computer to publish your sky is falling bullshit. By the way, I don’t drink ,smoke or use drugs. I want to see the world clearly, not through the haze of intoxicants or the fog of bullshit you chicken littles through spread around round like it’s gospel.

        • GreenAlba February 13, 2020 at 5:51 pm #

          See above, RIB, if you can read through the foam spray.

  102. RIB February 13, 2020 at 4:51 pm #

    Mayor Pete: “The Centrist”?
    Wants to abolish the death penalty.

    Decriminalize all drug possession, limit sentences on trafficking.

    Provide universal government run day care and pre-K child care.

    Raise taxes dramatically. More death taxes.

    Federal law min. wage of $15

    Tends towards Universal Basic Income (get ready for the price increases…)

    Add wealth taxes.

    Increase race-based free money, and advantages for college.

    Abolish student loan debt

    “Free” public college

    Abolish the Electoral College

    Convicts voting.

    Against voter ID

    Ban on all fracking.

    Green New Deal – he’s all for it. Also wants to sign on to the Paris Accords.

    Wants to re-enter the Nuclear (non) deal with Iran.

    For “Medicare for all” – So, government controlled healthcare.

    Wants to tear down the wall on the southern border (but says he’s for border security – riiiiight) Wants to decriminalize entering the country illegally.

  103. tucsonspur February 13, 2020 at 6:19 pm #

    Response to Cargill above.

    Too much muddled thinking to dissect in time.
    But let’s just look at what you said here:

    “Thank you … I think you proved my point very nicely. And you are joking I trust, and not just profoundly misinformed: the Republican Party has close to a vice-like grip on power, and laugh cynically at the alleged democratic system.”

    Looking at more recent history, since the early 1990’s, the Democrats have held the presidency for 16 years and the Republicans going on twelve. In addition, the Democrats have controlled both the Congress and the presidency for a few years in 1993 and 2009, while the Repubs did so in the early 2000’s and in 2017.

    Going back further, from 1932 to 1992, Democrats held the presidency for 32 years and the Repubs 28. Also, from 1933 to 1995, Repubs have held both the House and Senate for only four years.

    Some would say you’re on your ass and out of gas.

    • BackRowHeckler February 13, 2020 at 6:35 pm #

      ‘And I’m down to seeds and stems again, blues’ — Commander Cody and the Lost Planet Airmen

      Another way of saying it

  104. akmofo February 13, 2020 at 6:47 pm #

    Rudy Giuliani lays out the Biden’s corruption in Ukraine:

    https://youtu.be/vxvoFfjn2do

    The FBI is a completely useless and corrupt gov mafia organization. They are listening and they know what’s going on and THEY DO NOTHING!

    • akmofo February 13, 2020 at 7:08 pm #

      The corruption and abuse of the rule of law is directly related to the concentration of power into a centralized state. But people just refuse to understand this.

      • KesaAnna February 13, 2020 at 9:06 pm #

        Tip for future reference —

        The only foreigners Americans listen to , give credence to , or like are the ones who kiss their ass , tell them what they want to hear.

        ( Never mind that the foreigner kissing their ass is , at the same time , cutting them off at the knees. )

        • akmofo February 13, 2020 at 9:30 pm #

          I tell the truth. A one man echo chamber versus the whole Vatican matrix. And even with these odds against me, they’re beat.

    • KesaAnna February 13, 2020 at 8:50 pm #

      If you changed the acronym to NKVD ,

      or went in for nick-names and called it Stasi or Gestapo , you would still have the same species.

      And it was the same species in 1925 too.

      At the movies , in the 1920’s and 1930’s the FBI goes after bank robbers , bootleggers , and Italian , Jewish , and Irish low – life marginals.

      And they did.

      But their truly news- worthy work was going after other political parties ( parties other than the Democrats and Republicans ) and a remarkably broad assortment of grass – roots organizations , everything from the United Daughters of the Confederacy , to West Virginia coal miners.

      Often these organizations had little or nothing in common with each other , except that they were personal and local in nature.

      I can’t put it into words , but I have no doubt that the personal and local indeed had something to do with why they became targets.

      It certainly is no coincidence , and it isn’t due to any will of the people , that the United States has had only two viable political parties for over a hundred years.

      And the FBI had something to do with that.

      • akmofo February 13, 2020 at 9:21 pm #

        KesaAnna, in all its long years, how many lowlife Vatican pederasts did the FBI manage to put behind bars? How many Vatican organizations and politicians did the FBI expunge for human trafficking sex trafficking drugs trafficking and general criminal racketeering?

        Funny how these Vatican criminals are invisible to the FBI. Just like the Bidens the Pelosis the Kerrys the Romneys the Podestas etc, are invisible to them. Invisible to the FBI and invisible to commie Vatican propaganda outlets.

        https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQfUY3QWoAcJURC?format=jpg&name=medium

        Makes you wonder. It certainly makes me.

  105. KesaAnna February 13, 2020 at 8:19 pm #

    ” …while on the damned thing. He is a graduate of Grand Canyon University with a degree in…wait for it…faith based marketing. I shit you not.

    …Psst…wanna buy a sliver of the true cross? Got it off of Ebay and no longer need it…. ”

    Our blog host just pointed out that Statism is a religion.

    ( though a religion without a happy ending , or even , any apparent point at all . )

    So , if the , ” faith based marketing ” was , say , a reference to NOAA or FBI public relations ,

    would the joke still be funny ?

    Yes , I think so.

    Actually even funnier .

    But , i suspect , in a way you wouldn’t like , since it would make you the ass.

    • elysianfield February 14, 2020 at 12:56 am #

      “But , i suspect , in a way you wouldn’t like , since it would make you the ass.”

      Kesa,
      Well, it wouldn’t be the first time….

  106. Billy Hill February 13, 2020 at 8:58 pm #

    Mr. Kunstler — if you ever find yourself traveling south on US 19 in Georgia headed toward Thomasville (which is an example of a successful small town) take a side trip into Pelham and behold the Hand Trading Company building. Louis Sullivan in agricultural Georgia. Yes, it makes no sense whatsoever. But you can open and close the windows.

  107. Janos Skorenzy February 13, 2020 at 9:08 pm #

    https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2017.php

    Pit Bulls, at six percent of the dog population, were responsible for seventy four percent of the deaths. But remember, it’s not all Pit Bulls. Don’t be prejudiced against them like they were Blacks to be stopped and frisked. Feel free to pet a Pit Bull! There’s only one breed of Dog – the Dog Breed!

    Is there no truth to these statistics? Perhaps. Alba might say Pit Bulls are troubled because they’re badly raised, say by Niggers and White Trash, abused and/or taught to fight. It’s Society, not Race! Nurture not Nature.

    Mini Mike and Carnival Barker Trump are both right about what they say about each other – just as they were both right about stopping human Pit Bulls on the streets of New York.

    • GreenAlba February 13, 2020 at 9:29 pm #

      Janos, you really need to get over your obsession with speculating, mostly dishonestly, on what ‘Alba might say’ regarding everything under the sun (in your world everything under the sun leads to the same place). I wish I could say it’s flattering, but it just makes you look sad to spend so much time worrying about the unspoken thoughts of someone as insignificant as me. I can assure you I spend no time whatsoever speculating in the other direction. Life is too short. You do not permeate my consciousness when you are not in front of my eyes.

      Pit bulls? Nah, no expertise whatsoever, sorry.

      • malthuss February 13, 2020 at 11:33 pm #

        You dont know breeds of dogs and what they were inbred for?
        Do you know anything about race or sub races pf Humans?

        • Cargill February 14, 2020 at 1:25 am #

          There is only one species of homo sapiens – “race” is a political and historical terms only.

        • GreenAlba February 14, 2020 at 7:45 am #

          Malthuss

          I guess I just have higher standards for what I think of as ‘expertise’. I have a greyhound. I know a bit about greyhounds. Thousands of years of pedigree and all the negative stuff bred out of them in that time. And yes I know the tiny amount that passes for ‘knowledge’ about pit bulls – not as much as greyhounds though.

          But expertise in either? Not really.

          Although expertise is a bad thing, apparently, so why would I bother?

    • benr February 13, 2020 at 9:42 pm #

      Never seen a Dog properly trained and socialized that was mean or nasty.
      Pit bulls are some of the sweetest dogs on the planet.
      They are big teddy bears if properly trained how ever if abused and neglected look out they are powerful dogs.
      My daughter has a 100 pound blue nose brindle that tries to sit in my lap a bad habit we developed when she weighed all of 15 pounds.

      • malthuss February 13, 2020 at 11:32 pm #

        Yr use of ‘blue nose’ shows that you were fooled.
        Its just a PBT.

        Like the term ‘white German Shepherd’–no, the dog is a German Shepard. white is just a color on it.

        PBT are their mixes are indeed dangerous…’the dog killed my baby but was so sweet, gave no sign of being dangerous’ PBT are sweet w a charging rhino latent inside.

        You know little about dogs.

      • malthuss February 13, 2020 at 11:46 pm #

        https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/man-dies-after-being-mauled-by-pit-bull-in-unprovoked-attack-at-plainfield-home/ar-BBZU5Kw

        Fatal pit bull attacks still ongoing.

        I wonder if the dog was SOLD TO THEM AS A MISLABELED BREED! Shelters like to do that today.

        They label pits as the mix they bred with not as pits.

        Denver Colorado may lift the ban on pit ownership

    • akmofo February 13, 2020 at 10:59 pm #

      What about poodles? Why are them poodles not on the list? Don’t tell me they don’t bite, because I see they do.

      • malthuss February 13, 2020 at 11:35 pm #

        a Pomeranian killed someone. bit a baby who had beenleft alone on the neck…never leave a child alone w any dog.

        • elysianfield February 14, 2020 at 1:00 am #

          “never leave a child alone w any dog.”

          Except a Labrador….

      • Janos Skorenzy February 14, 2020 at 1:22 am #

        Find one exception and the Rule is broken, right? The study was about killing not biting in any case Learn to read.

        I estimate I have at least 10 IQ points on you.

        Ben R loves Pitbulls and is in the “all Dogs are Dogs” camp. If pressured he would fall back to the “they’re all not like that” (no one said they were), but next time you saw him he’d be back to his original position.

  108. tucsonspur February 13, 2020 at 10:26 pm #

    Responding to E above.

    1961-2 NYC. Café Wha? Dylan.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=when+did+bob+dylan+appear+at+cafe+wha?&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=UqT2_TvkGXWHyM%253A%252Cay8J9grZOJ5RnM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kRUTm95E-kR4q-nq3Uqx0Kvr9azrQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjqro_6hNDnAhXFu54KHV2VBZAQ_h0wAXoECAoQBg#imgrc=L8fdZZ7ei5Pm7M

    I’ve read analyses and tried my own. I’d rather just go with it easily, let the images, the meaning freewheel, stay with the poetic mystery, let it discover me so to speak. Like this from Dylan:

    “And take me disappearing through the smoke rings of my mind
    Down the foggy ruins of time
    Far past the frozen leaves
    The haunted frightened trees
    Out to the windy beach
    Far from the twisted reach of crazy sorrow

    Yes, to dance beneath the diamond sky
    With one hand waving free
    Silhouetted by the sea
    Circled by the circus sands
    With all memory and fate
    Driven deep beneath the waves
    Let me forget about today until tomorrow

    Hey! Mr. Tambourine man, play a song for me
    I’m not sleepy and there is no place I’m going to
    Hey! Mr. Tambourine man, play a song for me
    In the jingle jangle morning I’ll come following you”

    • elysianfield February 14, 2020 at 1:02 am #

      Tucson,
      His genius and prolific works amaze me to this day.

  109. KesaAnna February 13, 2020 at 11:33 pm #

    ” KesaAnna, in all its long years, how many lowlife Vatican pederasts did the FBI manage to put behind bars? ”

    I wanted to write a little essay on the subject of free porn for quarantined cruise ships and what it means .

    But your question will serve just as well.

    I doubt it is intentional , but your question is something of a trick question.

    A trick question in that often reality and rhetoric are two very different things , and certainly so in the case of sex.

    When I first came to the United States in 1976 , and the town I wound up in ,

    There were no less than four brothels , and they operated not in some back , seedy alley , but right on the main drag.

    They did a good business ; in a neighborhood that would have become run – down , it didn’t become run – down , because of these four brothels where the paint was never peeling and the masonry was never cracking.

    Indeed , one of them wound up in a 1920’s ( ?) office or small factory that would have fallen in , but didn’t , because they bought the building and restored it.

    They were relatively cheap. That is , today your choices in that regard are very expensive , or very cheap . No mid – price range , which is what they were.

    They were relatively hygienic ; one of them had a large closet full floor to ceiling with one item ; Clorox bleach. And every visit to these establishments began with a shower . ( and Clorox )

    They kept , or tried to keep , their employees away from drugs and bad characters.

    And every year they contributed generously to the police benevolent association.

    No telling how many Boy Scout and Girl Scout troops were indirectly , quietly , funded in this way.

    But then one day some enterprising politician coined the term , ” Human trafficking ” , and they were all closed.

    Now main street really is a seedy neighborhood.

    And my guess would be that brothels still exist , wildly expensive or much too cheap , seedy , a nest of drugs and really bad characters , and probably genuine human trafficking too.

    About two miles down the road was a K- Mart – sized dance hall.

    And it wasn’t shuttered. It was packed every night.

    Remember Disco ?

    Disco wasn’t music for musics sake. The idea was music you would dance to. And apparently people actually did that.

    One more detail ; About one – third of the female population , at least , wore dresses and skirts , and not untypically short ones at that.

    Now —

    The ( halfway ) decent brothels are gone , the dance halls are gone , the short skirts and dresses are gone , women look like men , and men are exceptionally frumpy and dowdy in dress.

    But the country is presumably more decadent than it was 40 years ago ???

    I have never paid a visit to theocratic Iran , so I can’t really say ,

    but certainly in every way except the rhetorical , and the theological ,

    the trend in America the past 40 years , and regardless of rhetoric , is a turn to the most Puritanical .

    — Except there is little or no Christian theology in it.

    — I would describe it as Sunni or Shia orthodox extremism , except that of course it isn’t an Islamic society.

    But it could very well be that the society is more puritanical than the Puritans , more faithful in spirit to the Islamic Republic of Iran than Iran itself.

    Porn ?

    Uh …. porn isn’t actually real people really screwing.

    Any more than the 800 people you kill in a video game adds up to real murder or real war ,

    or watching Disney’s Bambi adds up to a visit to a real forest.

    I would suggest that a profusion of porn indicates the counter – intuitive opposite ; That is , a profusion of porn indicates a lot of people NOT screwing.

    Given all of that , well , it’s kinda hard to answer your question with anything remotely like precision.

    Like , the police seemed less corrupt , and more reasonable , when they were getting kick – backs from the palatial brothels on main street.

    Now the brothels are closed ( ? ) and , no question about it , the police are fucking dangerous , but not to dangerous people .

    WTF ?

    • elysianfield February 14, 2020 at 1:11 am #

      “I would suggest that a profusion of porn indicates the counter – intuitive opposite ; That is , a profusion of porn indicates a lot of people NOT screwing. ”

      Kesa,
      I do not think there is a correlation….for if porn were illegal/unavailable that might indicate that people were screwing?

      In the 1950’s, porn was, indeed, illegal in the US, and I did not suffer the expected result…not one of my peers suffered the “dirty deed”, and I can guarantee it would be a prime topic of conversation if they had….

      • KesaAnna February 14, 2020 at 6:35 am #

        Well , no , porn wasn’t illegal in the late 1970’s – early 1980’s.

        But , like I said , the brothels were right there on main street.

        In those days , by the way , to access porn you had to buy a tangible product , kept behind the counter or in a special shop , and you needed ID.

        Not that that kind of parental controls did any good then.

        Now the only barr to porn is parental controls , and the brothels are gone.

        You may — not — have noticed I rarely actually reference East Germany except where there IS a similarity or sameness.

        Where there is not ?

        It’s like referencing the 1950’s. It was another country. Scarce any similarity or sameness anyway.

    • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 9:43 am #

      KesaAnna,

      Today’s brothel is digital. The whores have gone modern and are online. Them are sexting their ass pie pics via iOS. Tiz safer and cheaper and all the GRADE SCHOOL little manicures do it to support their shopping habit.

  110. KesaAnna February 13, 2020 at 11:57 pm #

    ” KesaAnna, in all its long years, how many lowlife Vatican pederasts did the FBI manage to put behind bars? ”

    Of course there is a short answer to that :

    If we generously allow EVERY hearsay accusation into our numbers , the number we still come up with is a whooping —-

    —- 0.02%

    I might ask you , and some of the others here , why the fuck you focus on this ?

    0.02% might not make us Catholics look good .

    But your getting your panties in a twist over 0.02% sure as hell doesn’t make you look good.

    • Janos Skorenzy February 14, 2020 at 1:26 am #

      Easily 30% of Catholic Priests are fags – and fags don’t take to chastity very easily, assuming one would even want to keep them on.

      Your head is in the sand or up your black ass. The situation is dire in the extreme. The false prophet Pope is running for the end zone of Church destruction and you are cheering him on.

      • Cargill February 14, 2020 at 5:04 am #

        Easily 30% of Catholic Priests are fags – source for this?

        and fags don’t take to chastity very easily – source for this?

        assuming one would even want to keep them on. – extreme homophobic discrimination.

        Fact: by far the majority of awful paedophile incidents are perpetrated by straight men.

        The false prophet Pope is running for the end zone of Church destruction and you are cheering him on.

        Can’t come soon enough – 2,000 years of that cult should come to an end! And amen to that!

      • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 8:26 am #

        You’re understanding the numbers, Janos. I saw figures way over 50%, some as high as 90%. In Europe the numbers are higher, and the criminality worse. That’s why the Churches there are empty and abandoned.

        • Cargill February 14, 2020 at 12:56 pm #

          I saw figures way over 50%, some as high as 90%.

          What figures would those be?

          Obviously predators go where the prey is . and a sizeable number of priests are in those positions because they are not interested in (or simply cannot form) mature adult relationships, but to link paedophilia with gay rather than straight males – this has been debunked time and time again.

      • elysianfield February 14, 2020 at 11:27 am #

        “Your head is in the sand or up your black ass.”

        Janos…a bit strident.

        I had no idea you were so emotionally invested.

  111. SoftStarLight February 14, 2020 at 1:50 am #

    Well it’s definitely possible to remove PPE incorrectly and ultimately get exposed to the very thing you are trying to avoid. So that can’t be ruled out for sure. And then there is also the quality of the PPE suit but again I would imagine that Japan would potentially have higher quality defenses against this sort of thing. A study done by researchers at Los Alamos has found that this virus is extraordinarily infectious. In fact, it looks like covid-19 is more contagious than SARS but maybe less contagious than Mumps. However, the Chinese are saying this thing is aerosolized. If that’s really true then it could spread as fast as Measels! At any rate, there are new mumurs that a mutation of the virus has been detected in Wuhan. Possibly a few hundred cases already according to insiders. Apparently this mutation of the virus is responsible for the onset of a sudden and feverless pneumonia. Whether this turns out to be true remains to be seen. What we will probably feel first here is an economic punch. But the CDC is telling everyone to expect the virus to get a foothold in the US and consequently set off widespread outbreaks.

    • Cargill February 14, 2020 at 4:57 am #

      Do you have some reliable sources for all this medical doom and gloom?

  112. KesaAnna February 14, 2020 at 6:25 am #

    ” Your head is in the sand or up your black ass. ”

    Maybe so.

    Now actually show that 30% of those fags actually are screwing little boys or little girls.

    Good luck with that,

    The fact is your demographic , whatever that is , except maybe eunuch, is a hell of a lot worse.

    So fuck you too you hack.

    • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 8:50 am #

      Complaints shomplaints, if the police refuse to do anything about it, good luck indeed showing the problem exists. Pakistanis knew this well, and managed a good business of it. For them, it’s a religion duty. The good news for you, KesaAnna, is that none of youz old hags are too old and ugly to be gang-assfscked till youz can’t walk no more, or defecate PC crap from your oral cavity. Now there’s a porn fantasy.

      https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/manchester-grooming-gangs-racism-police-sexual-abuse-a9297336.html

      • elysianfield February 14, 2020 at 11:32 am #

        “KesaAnna, is that none of youz old hags…”

        Mofo,
        Jesus, where is that reputed Israelite grace and hospitality we always hear about?

        Decorum.

        • akmofo February 14, 2020 at 12:15 pm #

          It disappears when I see and hear Vatican shills, and is replaced red blood and fury in my eyes.