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Think of the American two-party political system as two ramshackle freight trains running towards each other over old, neglected tracks, on a one-year collision course. Will there even be two parties left for the 2020 election?

The Republican Party is a train of booby-trapped freight cars that can blow at any time. The engine is running on the fumes of the financialized economy. The engineer, Mr. Trump, only has his eye on the gauge that represents the stock market, which produces the gaseous emanations running his train. But the tank cars are leaking. The vapors are highly flammable. Any little spark can set it off, and surely will.

The Democratic Party is carrying seventeen gondola cars of the worst political scandal in US history: RussiaGate, the attempted coup d’état by national gaslighting, which will expose dozens of party officers and foot-soldiers in an actual criminal conspiracy, and subject them to ignominious prosecution in the heart of the election year. The damage could run as high as former President Obama when all is said and done, with Mrs. Clinton dragged under the wheels in the ensuing train wreck. It will be ugly and embarrassing to the max.

The Dem’s train also includes the circus cars of its identity politics hustlers, Reps AOC, Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, and Ayanna Pressley plus the sideshow of so-far-suppressed Joe Biden scandals concerning massive cash payoffs from Ukraine and China to his entrepreneurial son, Hunter — conveniently arranged during his Dad’s official trips to those places as Vice-president.

There is reason to believe that a majority of voters are good and goddam sick of identity hustling and the tiresome racket of political correctness that spawned it. They see its bottomless appetite for grievance and complaint — against a reality in which life is difficult for everybody, not just self-proclaimed victims of oppression. They smell the odor of bad faith in the party’s campaign for an open border with Mexico and its abject refusal to legislate immigration law reform — while grandstanding about the alleged mistreatment of people who cross the border illegally. Most of all, they are sick of the endless moral instruction and coercion, especially over “gender” issues and sexual boundary-stretching, the parades of freaks in dog masks, ball gags, and S & M get-ups, not to mention the utter insanity of the drag queen story hour, in which men perform as monstrous caricatures of women for impressionable six-year-olds. That is what it’s come to for the party of Franklin Roosevelt and Jack Kennedy.

Yet, Mr. Trump’s chances for reelection hang on the slender thread of his fictitious miracle economy, which is something like one of those fabulous parties at Jay Gatsby’s place depicted in F. Scott Fitzgerald’s novel about life before the 1929 crash — a splashy but localized event strictly for the denizen elite of the Gold Coasts. It’s the product of world-wide money-printing, computer algo fakery in the exchanges, statistical spirit-cooking, and the perversions provoked by artificial ultra-low interest rates that destroy the basic functions of capital formation.

The cover-story for all that is the completely insane doctrine called Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) which states that a nation with the world’s reserve currency can never go bankrupt as long as it can keep “printing” more money — or punching computer keystrokes into the “systemically important” (Too Big to Fail) bank accounts. When that train goes off the rails — as it must, because it’s at-odds with reality — it will be the biggest wreck in history, and it will bring all the operations of advanced societies to a stop, including raw materials supply lines, manufacturing, global trade, and industrial-scale Agri-Biz. The last of these will be especially punishing in a world where bad weather is hammering this year’s grain production.

The Democratic Party already has a big wagon of snake oil to “cure” all that: socialism. They’re completely up-front about it. Anyway, it’s just another name for the periodic forced redistribution of wealth from the fat and greedy over-class to the suffering underclass — an understandable impulse in societal extremis, but one with universally unappetizing side-effects, namely the destruction of consensual economic relations. The catch in this instance is that the “wealth” they seek to redistribute will be exactly what goes up in a vapor when the stock and bond markets implode, along with the world’s fiat currencies.

As the old axiom goes, debt is always repaid by somebody, even in a default. In the present case, it will be paid by the young and by other citizens of the future, since the mountain of debt racked up world-wide the past several decades was literally a massive borrowing from the future to keep running all the systems of today (and yesterday). The future itself was the collateral. That’s the sad and tricky part.

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725 Responses to “I Hear That Train a’Comin’”

  1. K-Dog July 8, 2019 at 9:57 am #

    Forced redistribution. Not to worry. Americans don’t own anything. The fat cats have everything. Lets nip this forced redistribution Stalin style nonsense in the bud. This dog has only between 100 or 200 million or so dogs in the whole world who have more bones than I. I may have more than you, and I’m not worrying about redistribution. Why should you. I prefer worrying about real threats. Like runaway inflation.

    • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 9:59 am #

      Do you own your computer?
      ‘ ‘ ‘ Your thoughts?

      runaway inflation.–food prices are climbing.
      And the population of USA is growing.

      • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 10:02 am #

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCuhbsMpA5w

      • Paulo July 8, 2019 at 11:04 am #

        Redistribution by vote or by pitchforks; call it whatever you want. At least Epstein’s going back to jail. I wonder if Trump and Clinton did threesomes on Epstein’s plane?

        • shotho July 8, 2019 at 12:16 pm #

          Yes, I wondered the same thing. The Epstein train has the potential to start the chain reaction that our host is talking about.

        • Nightowl July 8, 2019 at 2:57 pm #

          Clinton undoubtedly, he flew to Pedo Island 26 times (according to flight logs) and ditched his SS detail.

          Trump hitched a ride back to NYC one time (documented also) and later banned Epstein from the premises of Mar-a-lago after he sexually assaulted a young woman.

          Nice try, orc.

        • abbybwood July 9, 2019 at 2:49 am #

          But seriously, I am now wondering what is going to happen if the FBI decides to pry open that case of “Jane Doe” who accused Donald J. Trump and Jeffery Epstein of rape when she was 13 years old and an aspiring model at Epstein’s Manhattan townhouse during a summer party in 1994. According to the court filing there were three credible witnesses.

          Reading the lawsuit against Trump it claims he “tied her to a bed in the house and raped her”. In November 2016 she was represented by Lisa Bloom and the court had called for a Dec. 16th hearing with all sides present. (Obviously after the election).

          Three days before the election “Jane Doe” dropped the case because Bloom said she was receiving so many serious death threats:

          https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-rape-accusation-underage-girl-claim-what-happened-sexual-assault-allegation-a7354111.html%3famp

          Considering that Jim Comey’s daughter is one of the prosecutors, I can imagine she might want to dig into the above incident and pull in all the witnesses for a little chit-chat.

          It’s probably not Epstein the FBI wants at all. At this point it seems he is simply the man holding “the keys to the kingdom” of the knowledge of true evil.

          I say, bring it ALL on.

          • Nightowl July 9, 2019 at 6:23 am #

            “Jane Doe” dropped her suit right around the time that it was revealed that David Brock and another Clinton political backer had given Jane Doe’s lawyer some USD 700,000 to fund Bloom in procuring women to accuse Trump.

            Knowledge is power.

      • Tate July 8, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

        Runaway nuclear reactions, runaway horses, they can’t be controlled until their energies are spent. One has vast destructive power, the other very limited.

        Runaway inflation is somewhere in-between in its destructive power but it’s unlike the others in that it’s always at every point-in-time within the power of human agency to stop it.

    • Neon Vincent July 8, 2019 at 10:34 am #

      Hi, K-Dog! The closest we’ll likely get to forced redistribution of a leftist sort are higher marginal tax rates if Democrats take control of both Congress and the White House, unless civil forfeitures for crimes, which are becoming less smiled upon, start going after those accused of financial crimes instead of drug crimes. That written, our host’s invocation of socialism, which is a wedge issue within the Democratic Party, not a unifying theme, has some merit. Nearly all the Senators and Representatives running for the Democratic nomination are drifting to the left as they campaign, becoming either absolutely or relatively more liberal over the past month according to Voteview’s analysis of their votes. The exception is Tulsi Gabbard, who is the one current member of Congress running for President who has moved to her right relative to the Democratic caucus in the House.

      As for the current economic system falling apart, I still like my favorite metaphor for it, the Retail Apocalypse. Wired interviewed an expert on retrofitting suburbia for the 21st Century about what to do with dead malls. What she said about the history of suburbia and malls in particular looked a lot like what our host described in “The End of Suburbia.” In fact, Wired used some of the same clips to illustrate her answers. Now I wonder if Wired watched the documentary.

    • Epicur July 8, 2019 at 11:19 am #

      Inflation is a form of redistribution. It takes resources from savers and gives them to borrowers.

      The government has two choices, a collapse of the system that will make the Great Depression pale in comparison or inflation.

      They have opted for and will continue to opt for inflation, no matter how bad it gets. Eventually either wage and price controls in some form or the iron-fisted dictat of MMT will be required (I predict MMT).

      Every government is eventually an oligarchy, at least for a while.

      • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 12:47 pm #

        MMT?

        • Epicur July 8, 2019 at 1:07 pm #

          MMT, Modern Monetary Theory, reduces money to pure fiat issued on the “full faith and credit” of the sovereign government. It is not really very far from where we are now, it just removes the sham of “market mechanisms” and allows the government to issue “money” at its discretion.

          MMT relies on the “wisdom” of whatever board or authority is created to regulate the money supply whereas the Federal Reserve as originally conceived operated through the open market operations and is sensitive to the “bond vigilantes” sense of the direction of the economy and the trust they put in getting a return on capital.

          The line between the “bond vigilantes” and the Fed has become quite blurred, but there is still the threat that major holders of bonds might stop buying what the Fed (and Treasury) is selling, so there is still some market restraint on the money supply that believers in MMT would like to be without.

          As I said below, the snake in this Eden is the amount of power the issuer of “money” will require to maintain a “stable” economy.

    • TraffickingInDivinity July 8, 2019 at 11:39 am #

      K-dog,

      I totally agree. Forced redistribution is insane. If you take from those who have worked and saved and give to those who haven’t, you will incite the same hatred in those who have as exists now in those who have not!

      • elysianfield July 8, 2019 at 12:22 pm #

        If you take from those who have worked and saved and give to those who haven’t, you will incite the same hatred in those who have as exists now in those who have not!

        TID,

        Why the past tense? We’ve been doing this through the Income Tax system since…1964 at least.

        • Majella July 8, 2019 at 8:12 pm #

          EF,

          What past tense?

          Very much present “If you take” and future “you will incite”.

    • davidveale July 8, 2019 at 4:06 pm #

      We’re already subject to forced redistribution (upwards), whether through the pharmaceutical/healthcare racket, military/industrial racket, higher education, or inflated home prices and increased mortgage payments. Call it what you will, but I see no problem with reversing that flow!

    • gonetohell July 8, 2019 at 9:58 pm #

      What’s this “…consensual economic relation” to which JHK refers?
      Is it the relationship apparent in corporate America and Wall Street’s taking more and more of the nations income and wealth. As outsourcing and automation increase corporate profits, workers in the vanishing middle class consent to flat wages and lower to no benefits. Thanks for your consent.
      Maybe that’s the backbone of a successful country and economy to clowns like JHK. In reality, its the ramshackle train referred to by the illustrious JHK.

  2. Exscotticus July 8, 2019 at 10:16 am #

    JHK, you can’t possibly lay down tracks toward a train analogy without mentioning…

    Which of our politicians or political entities shall have the puerile honor of being the national caboose?

    The way I see it, could be a man or a woman! Biden seems well on his way with all his pandering and apologies. In terms of being the undisputed butt of many jokes, however, I’d go with AOC.

    • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 10:16 am #

      Joe Biden is how old?

      • Exscotticus July 8, 2019 at 10:39 am #

        What’s age got to do with it? A man who is weak and subservient as Biden is to the media and wokesters and snowflakes of his party is typically said to be on the receiving end, so to speak. Why? What did YOU have in mind?

        • JohnAZ July 8, 2019 at 11:16 am #

          Ex

          That is exactly the direction the country was going prior to Trump. The Presidency was a group off Milquetoasts just following the MSM and the Deep State down into the maelstrom of chaos. The reason? Because the PTB know that the effects of overpopulation, AGW, resistance to change, greed and just plain public stupidity are impossible to change without major anguish.

          So the PTB protect themselves from what is coming. And attack one another instead of working the problems list. They do not have one single clue what to do about anything.

          Hence the propaganda train, the Constant stream of BS, the idiotic ideas in the Democratic debates that accomplish nothing, or have prohibitive price tags and of course the continuous lying and name calling that is happening.

          • Exscotticus July 8, 2019 at 11:53 am #

            Exactly. It’s not about refusing to admit when you’re wrong; it’s about not sacrificing your principles and flip-flopping on every issue merely because someone else disagrees or misinterprets them in the worst possible way.

            Busing, for example, is outrageous. At best, the benefit only accrues one way—to minorities. The idea that a white child’s education and future should be sacrificed on the Lefty alter of literal equality is something Biden should reject without apology.

            The Left continuously argues that non-white skin color is a good-in-itself, and something that conveys value by its mere presence. I beg to differ, and the statistics speak for themselves.

          • Tate July 8, 2019 at 12:23 pm #

            “The Left continuously argues that non-white skin color is a good-in-itself, and something that conveys value by its mere presence. I beg to differ, and the statistics speak for themselves.”

            That’s why the Great Replacement (q.v.) is a real thing. It’s a deliberate policy of the democrat party. They deny that it’s happening one day & then the next celebrate its arrival, as when that NYT columnist, Cohen by name — went all gewgew-eyes over Stacy Abrams in Georgia. Dems have to replace the legacy population in order to gain elective office.

            They’re succeeding. By the time the train pulls into the station, the White race will have become fully based in its betrayal, but it will be too late to hold things together, & the boiler will explode in either the station or the wheelhouse.

        • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 12:44 pm #

          kinky

      • BackRowHeckler July 8, 2019 at 5:22 pm #

        Biden is looking frail, transluscent.

        He needs some sun, bacon burgers and litres of Pabst Blue Ribbon.

        Brh

        • BornToKillPeace July 9, 2019 at 1:08 am #

          Biden smokes mugwort dried in the blood of transgender boxers..

  3. CancelMyCard July 8, 2019 at 10:20 am #

    This train don’t carry no sinners this train this train don’t carry no sinners this train
    This train don’t carry no sinners no bad women nor free thinkers
    This train don’t carry no sinners this train
    This train to be a train
    (Get aboard little children
    ‘Cause the train is here tonight)

    — Hank Snow

  4. oilie July 8, 2019 at 10:20 am #

    As with many a good joke, it’s all in the timing. If the gasket waits until after the election to blow, then Trump becomes the new Hoover. If sufficiently before, the socialists take over, but are completely unable to stop the carnage. If the financial implosion were to occur a week before the election, the election might be postponed forever while we slide into chaos. Get acquainted with your friends, you will need them.

  5. malthuss July 8, 2019 at 10:26 am #

    Epstein is arrested, again.

    Is he in cahoots with Mossad?

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    • jdhines July 8, 2019 at 10:37 am #

      “… New York magazine profile of Epstein, in which Trump said: “I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”

      Birds of a feather flock together?

      Interesting this is coming out of the SDNY US Prosecutors Office. General disgust or possible connection to Trump, Dershowitz and others? What can Epstein tell authorities to save himself from rotting in prison for the rest of his life? Interesting….

      • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 10:55 am #

        But is Mossad behind Epstein?

        I was listening to a youtube. 7 dead in Florida. They were investigating DWS.

        4 police and

        https://www.opdeepstate.com/2018/02/18/3-attorneys-found-dead-in-wasserman-schultz-florida-district-in-2-weeks/?fbclid=IwAR3pKtI0iCGFMd9WJZB0njPubyg8TWB8t3Mnbc0LQYcUWw4_v0oJnnSMCMQ

      • Exscotticus July 8, 2019 at 3:04 pm #

        >>> Birds of a feather flock together?

        So if guilt by association is your metric, then you better make room for Prince Andrew, Stephen Hawking, and a bunch if other Nobel laureates, Harvard professors, and so on. More Dems than not by my reckoning.

        • jdhines July 8, 2019 at 3:44 pm #

          The chips will have to fall where they will on this one. It’s too sickening to contemplate. By the way, Stephen Hawking is no longer with us, so he will skate on this one, at least as far as the courts are concerned. Perhaps a higher authority has taken him to task, assuming he is actually guilty.

          • Exscotticus July 8, 2019 at 4:23 pm #

            >>> The chips will have to fall where they will on this one.

            So in THIS CASE justice must be served? But not on others? Uh huh.

            >>> By the way, Stephen Hawking is no longer with us

            They can always go after his legacy and estate. But of course my only point in mentioning him was reductio ad absurdum. If you’re going to infer guilt by association, then Hawking is included. And the idea that Hawking molested underage girls is absurd.

          • jdhines July 9, 2019 at 10:40 am #

            Your honor, I request permission to treat Exscotticus as a hostile participant in these proceedings. Granted.

            Please refer to my original post. I was implying that the two birds in question were Jeffrey Epstein and Donald Trump. YOU, introduced our British friends and suggested more Dem Commies were involved than Upstanding Repubs.

            I said, let us shed some light on the happenings and “let the chips fall where the will,” implying, of course, that I do not care which of the two-headed party members is found to be guilty. Apparently, you do care, no?

            >>> “the idea that Hawking molested underage girls is absurd.”

            While that is no doubt true, are you suggesting that because it is an absurd idea, that the prosecution should just fold and probe no further? Should the victims not be heard, because you and others, find it “ridiculous,” as in the case of would-be Alabama senator Roy Moore?

            I don’t believe that is how the judicial system works and I am certain you are fully aware of that, Ex. Besides, who said that Mr. Hawking was a suspect? YOU are the one who implied it in setting up your clumsy strawman argument. Ha!

            So, in this case and with regards to Mr. E, Pres. T, Mr. Dershowitz and Pres. Clinton, there is more than just guilt by association, isn’t there? Mr. E is a Registered Sex Offender, Pres. T. has made incriminating public statements (grabbing p—Y) and has been accused by 22 women of improprieties. The last accusation is for an alleged rape in the 1990’s that has been contemporaneously corroborated. Mr. D has been accused by said victims and has been known to keep company with Mr. E. Former Pres. Clinton’s was a frequent guest and his record, in regards to sexual improprieties, is well know as well. No cause for alarm, right Ex?

            Is it so much of a stretch to suggest that perhaps Pres. T and Mr. E. are “birds of a feature” and thus, along with others, are prime candidates for investigation by the duly appointed members of the DOJ and judiciary? Especially, considering the sweetheart deal Pres. T’s Labor Secretary, one Alex Acosta, doled out to Mr. E? I don’t think it’s as outlandish as you propose and would have us believe. Your attempt to mislead this court is vile indeed.

            Perhaps you are suggesting that “boys will be boys,” I don’t know, so please explain yourself, uh huh.

          • Exscotticus July 9, 2019 at 12:10 pm #

            >>> I said, let us shed some light on the happenings and “let the chips fall where the will,” implying, of course, that I do not care which of the two-headed party members is found to be guilty.

            Will the court stenographer kindly read back jdhines’ testimony.

            Court Stenographer: “The chips will have to fall where they will on this one.”

            “On this one?”

            Court Stenographer: “Yes, that’s what he said.”

            Implying that I guess jdhines does care about justice in this particular case, for why else would he single “this one” out?

      • fugeguy July 9, 2019 at 11:29 am #

        Pretty well known and documented that Billy Boy was very close and ran with Epstein way more that the Trumpster. Like orders of magnitude more.

        And if liking young and beautiful women is now a crime many of us are in trouble. I’m safe because I just like looking. Beyond that too many dollar signs involved plus they start talking sooner or later and for the most part what’s going on between the ears seldom involves much reason or logic. Give me a more seasoned lady with her head screwed on straight any day.

        • jdhines July 9, 2019 at 12:33 pm #

          >>> “Pretty well known and documented that Billy Boy was very close and ran with Epstein way more that the Trumpster. Like orders of magnitude more.”

          I think that is probably the case. Liking young/beautiful women is not the problem here or, as you point out, many people would be in big trouble. It seems though, that Mr. E, former Pres. C and Pres. T are suitable candidates for a good hard look, yeah?

          >>> “Implying that I guess jdhines does care about justice in this particular case, for why else would he single “this one” out?”

          Supposition and conjecture on the part of Mr. Ex once again, Your Honor! I care about justice in ALL CASES, but in this case in particular, because it (potentially) involves the highest elected office in the land? Is there a problem with that Your Honor?

          • jdhines July 9, 2019 at 12:36 pm #

            Am I not allowed to rank cases by some hierarchical scheme, Your Honor? Again, Mr, Ex would have us believe that such a ranking is contrary to the law, which it is not. I move to censure Mr. Ex, Your Honor.

          • Nightowl July 9, 2019 at 4:07 pm #

            I think you will end up dissapointed to learn that Trumpi has no noteworthy connection to Epstein.

            His comment about JE liking young women was a rather clear shot across the bow.

            He later banned the guy from his property and the victims lawyer himself already vouched for Trump being the only high profile individual to aid him in getting justice. There is also no record of him visiting the island, and he doesn’t drink.

            Dissapointment coming for the McResistance yet again.
            Pelosi’s daughter is already trying to help break your fall.

          • jdhines July 10, 2019 at 11:21 am #

            >>> “I think you will end up disappointed to learn that Trump has no noteworthy connection to Epstein.” – “Disappointment coming for the McResistance yet again.”

            Maybe, maybe not. We shall see, perhaps.

            “Florida businessman George Houraney said he was the one who fulfilled Trump’s request in 1992 for the beautiful women to attend a VIP party at the Trump property. “I arranged to have some contestants fly in,” Houraney told the Times in an interview this week. “At the very first party, I said, ‘Who’s coming tonight? I have 28 girls coming.’ It was him and Epstein.” That the party wasn’t really a party at all surprised Houraney. “I said, ‘Donald, this is supposed to be a party with V.I.P.s. You’re telling me it’s you and Epstein?’ ” Houraney recalled. “I said, ‘Look, Donald, I know Jeff really well, I can’t have him going after younger girls.’ ” Houraney told Trump that he had “pretty much had to ban Jeff from my events” but said “Trump didn’t care about that.”

        • Majella July 12, 2019 at 12:48 am #

          Pretty much NOT a we’ll documented fact, fugeguy. Reporter Tim O’Brien has written on just how personally close Trump & Epstein have been for years, both being NUC denizens. Lots of Epstein’s crimes occurred in His NYC mansion and I’d find it hard to believe that Trump wasn’t ever at any of his kid-fucking parties.

        • neon sky July 12, 2019 at 9:29 am #

          Don’t you know, looking is now a no no too. When you stare at a woman make sure not to look below the neck. The safest course is to not look at all. Look down at the ground.

  6. trolleybill July 8, 2019 at 10:29 am #

    Your post last Friday 7/5/19 was great. Had me thinking a lot about a passion of mine. My passion is and has been creating a Farmers Market & Flea Market. The one big draw back for small business and fledgling start ups is overhead. A nearby open 1 to 2 acre field near downtown with parking can be a Godsend for citizens and entrepreneurs. Many a boutique food business gets a start selling honey, maple syrup, vegetables, flour, grains, pastries, meats in a Farmers Market and the Flea Market could hold sellers from everything from A to Z. resellers could pick up items at garage sales and closeout buys. The town could bring in extra income from space rental and parking fees.
    I’ve seen business selling cheese and other food items get popular enough to have supermarkets and restaurants buy from them. The bigger the crowd gets the more various sellers join in. Maybe a furniture company could get a start. Maybe slate roofs will again become popular or marble flooring. Maybe a B&B or a great restaurant to draw outsiders money. Things snowball once things get started.

    • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 10:58 am #

      travel takes gas.
      shopping takes cash.

      barter can go no farther.

      • JohnAZ July 8, 2019 at 11:18 am #

        You are right. Barter requires localization.

        Isn’t that one of the precepts of JHK’s picture of the future?

        • montsegur July 8, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

          The ‘burbs may see the houses used as storage buildings and the lawns converted to gardens.

          You’re sheltering PIGS in my McMansion?!

          “Farm to Market Roads” will again become more widely known across the entire country. Probably no farms farther from the market town than a day’s travel for a horse and wagon.

          No government subsidies to not grow certain crops. Demand and climate will determine what can and will be grown. I expect the demand for tobacco and homemade alcohol will be rather high.

          Cheers

          • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 12:38 pm #

            You’re sheltering PIGS in my McMansion?!

            funny..remember all the flu [s] from china? pigs, birds and humans all too close.

        • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 12:41 pm #

          Barter requires ethics.

          An old Black man I knew advertised his yard sale.
          The mexicans arrive, distract him while some steal.

          A meth head? on a bike stole his cell phone, that he had set down.

          another neighbor had similar problems with opening ones home to strangers for a junk sale.

          • Tate July 8, 2019 at 3:09 pm #

            The trick is to have armed guards at all the entry & exit points.

          • Ricechex July 8, 2019 at 10:21 pm #

            My friend lives in one of those big tract homes built in the 90s. There was a cul-de-sac yard sale (all the homes around). We were there to help prevent stealing. Car loads of Mexicans came and dropped off bunches of people. While I was patrolling I caught several people, just walking off with stuff. They put it back when I told them too, but no shame whatsoever. He did lose a lot of things to theft. They bring all their kids and they linger and linger and overwhelm the place. Shifty.

    • hmuller July 8, 2019 at 12:36 pm #

      This may just be an isolated anomaly – but today I was at Wal-Mart. The canned vegetables were about half sold out. Signs had been posted saying there was a supply shortage thru at least August 07.

      Anybody see anything similar?

      • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 12:43 pm #

        you tube–
        ice age farmer

        alaskan prepper

      • Q. Shtik July 8, 2019 at 5:04 pm #

        a supply shortage thru at least August 07. – hmuller

        ============

        Is that Aug 2007 (12 years ago) or the 7th of Aug (next month)?

        • hmuller July 8, 2019 at 6:23 pm #

          Is that a joke? Does time run backward where you live?

  7. Ol' Scratch July 8, 2019 at 10:34 am #

    Another great one today, Mr. K! Sums up the current zeitgeist beautifully. I too have to chuckle at the so-called “wonders” of MMT among the egg-heads that are all a twitter about it. Of course the government can always run the printing presses! We’ve been doing exactly that since Nixon took us off the gold standard back in the 70’s. Where all that money goes, now thar’s the rub! Always has been and always will be. Rest assured, it ain’t ever going towards no working class bailouts, of that you can be sure! Yes, they’ll probably let the banks fail next time as a heavy dose of be careful what you ask for, after which a new all-digital currency (the Holy Grail!) will likely be rolled out to a privileged few by invitation only, and life will move on for most… err… make that some. The rest will be left to fend for themselves until they fall into crime or otherwise cross the remaining powers that be, after which they’ll be invited to spend an extended period in a detention/reprogramming/elimination center not of their choosing until something suitably profitable can be found for them to do, or preferably die.

    • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 10:59 am #

      how old is scratch?

      • Ol' Scratch July 8, 2019 at 11:12 am #

        Comin’ up on 61. How about malthuss?

        • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 12:30 pm #

          ‘we; think Janos is 70 years old or older.

          • Ol' Scratch July 8, 2019 at 3:10 pm #

            Really? I’ve asked that question before, but he won’t fess up. Still trying to maintain that mystique, I guess.

            But how about malthuss? Under 30, perhaps?

          • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 9:19 am #

            I really don’t want to have to envisage a 75-year-old Janos playing cutesy games with a 28-year-old SSL or spending the evening watching horror films with her. That’s too Mick Jagger for me on an empty stomach.

            Let’s just pretend he’s under 40, please.

          • benr July 11, 2019 at 10:56 pm #

            @ga wait I thought ssl was north of 50 as well.

          • GreenAlba July 12, 2019 at 7:44 am #

            benr

            “@ga wait I thought ssl was north of 50 as well.”

            Haha, that would be me, benr – well north.

            SSL once confided in Tate (I think) that she was 28. Not that one can really confide on here. Perhaps a birthday has happened since. 🙂

        • BackRowHeckler July 8, 2019 at 7:29 pm #

          Malth is a mystery too.

          • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 9:21 am #

            I have a vague picture of Malthuss that my mind has created unbidden and he’s not 30 in it 🙂 .

        • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2019 at 11:47 pm #

          Asked a question about himself and replies about me. How strange is that?

    • JohnAZ July 8, 2019 at 11:26 am #

      Ol’ Scratch

      Look around at the cities now. Then look at the connections to the border.

      Your forecast is here now!

      • Ol' Scratch July 8, 2019 at 11:58 am #

        Yep, it is.

    • Ricechex July 8, 2019 at 10:25 pm #

      Allegedly, Gavin Newsom (CA Governor) had a surplus of money (what? a surplus? how can that be?) and he is using it to give health care benefits to all illegals under 25 years old. I just can’t believe what I am seeing. I am sure Newsom will be running for President in 2024 if we make it that long.

      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/06/10/california-health-care-immigrants-insurance/1406629001/

  8. JustSaying July 8, 2019 at 10:36 am #

    The catch in this instance is that the “wealth” they seek to redistribute will be exactly what goes up in a vapor when the stock and bond markets implode, along with the world’s fiat currencies.

    Good point!

  9. venuspluto67 July 8, 2019 at 10:40 am #

    There is reason to believe that a majority of voters are good and goddam sick of identity hustling and the tiresome racket of political correctness that spawned it. They see its bottomless appetite for grievance and complaint — against a reality in which life is difficult for everybody, not just self-proclaimed victims of oppression. They smell the odor of bad faith in the party’s campaign for an open border with Mexico and its abject refusal to legislate immigration law reform — while grandstanding about the alleged mistreatment of people who cross the border illegally. Most of all, they are sick of the endless moral instruction and coercion, especially over “gender” issues and sexual boundary-stretching, the parades of freaks in dog masks, ball gags, and S & M get-ups, not to mention the utter insanity of the drag queen story hour, in which men perform as monstrous caricatures of women for impressionable six-year-olds. That is what it’s come to for the party of Franklin Roosevelt and Jack Kennedy.

    Okay, I know that these spittle-flecked tirades play well with the rednecks who now make up the bulk of your comment section, but I think they really do make for your weaker posts, by far and away. But then again, I wouldn’t even be here still if I didn’t have way too much time on my hands. This will likely change when the events you prophesied at the conclusion of this post come to pass.

    • benr July 8, 2019 at 10:52 am #

      Red necked as if working for a living in the sun is somehow an insult or more to the point the people doing so are somehow stupid?
      When and if this falls apart you will be one of the first to starve to death and beg those very red necks to help you.
      Hopefully that shitty attitude towards them shines through when that day comes.’

      His post is 100% on the point normal people are sick of it all.

      • jdhines July 8, 2019 at 11:04 am #

        >>> “His post is 100% on the point normal people are sick of it all.”

        Normal people now work in the fields and know how to farm? When I think of Famers, I think of huge conglomerates, operating in big wide open spaces (the Plains), using massive tractors and plenty of petrochemicals, but not many people.

        When I think of “normal Americans,” I don’t think about Rednecks, but more about suburbs, big box stores, lawn mowing, etc.

        When I hear the word “Redneck,” I think about Confederate flags, Hillbillies, Moonshine, guns, pick-up trucks, Opioids, dilapidated trailer homes, Republican voters, the Old South, Mountains, poor people, uneducated people, hunting, drinking, Evangelicals and I am sure you can imagine the other things that come to mind. Am I wrong?

        • JohnAZ July 8, 2019 at 11:30 am #

          Jd

          You left out one group. What is your opinion of the Leftist nuts that are trying to tear down the country?

          • capt spaulding July 8, 2019 at 11:38 am #

            What about the wealthy folks who are buying politicians left and right?

          • jdhines July 8, 2019 at 11:56 am #

            Way too far Left, for my tastes. No money for giveaways, as the rich have it all already.

        • hmuller July 8, 2019 at 3:33 pm #

          jdhines. you can enumerate all those ugly stereotypes about working class white people, and no one accuses you of racism or hate speech. Come up with a list like that about Blacks and Latinos, and see what happens.

          All I’m asking for are consistent standards without favoritism.

          • jdhines July 8, 2019 at 4:02 pm #

            hmuller, I see your point, but the stereotypes I listed were not aimed at all working whites, with whom I grew up with and have respect for. I was thinking of what comes to mind when I hear “Redneck” (in particular) and, right or wrong, it has little to do with work, or class, but rather attitude, I suppose, and “backwardness.”

            No doubt, I am biased and maybe even prejudiced, but I am speaking of groups and not individuals. I recognize that there are decent, hardworking, moral folks that are labeled as “Rednecks” that I would get along fine with (and do as a matter of fact).

            I will work harder to apply consistent standards without favoritism – a good idea, hmuller.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2019 at 12:54 pm #

        Mr Kunstler said, “the majority of voters” which you take as “normal” people”. I’m not sure those are equivalent, but I’d say you’re both wrong. There is no middle now. Normal Blacks and Browns are intensely interested in all forms of welfare and favoritism. That’s being natural after all. Non-Redneck Whites don’t anything about natural any more – but they’re a gonna find out. Nobility? Well the noble are always a minority group, right? But yeah, there’s more of them among Whites than anywhere else. And Nobility can be very stupid and in fact, often is. In modern Whites it takes the form of projecting their own mindset onto desperate people – especially if they are of a different race. And then in reaction they double down on their hatred of the unfortunates of their own race. And that is very noble at all….

        • Majella July 8, 2019 at 8:29 pm #

          Janos

          I’ll spring for you to do the 23andMe test, as long as you share the results with all.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2019 at 4:51 am #

            Already did – 100% (or as close as their algorithm gets) White. Sorry.

          • hmuller July 9, 2019 at 3:20 pm #

            Do you count your Neanderthal genes as white?

      • Majella July 8, 2019 at 8:26 pm #

        “Redneck” actually originally refers to the striking miners of Ol’ Coal Country back east, in the early 20th. They were trying to organize labor and were considered ‘damned commies’ so were brutally opposed by capital.

        The “Redneck” you refer to here is more likely to be an illegal immigrant from Central America, working his butt off in the hot California fields for next-to-nothing, to provide you with fresh lettuce & tomatoes for your next barbecue. Aren’t these the very people who are turning your view of California into a shit hole?

        • benr July 8, 2019 at 9:10 pm #

          According to whom your definition is a bit off much like most of what you post.

          https://daily.jstor.org/redneck-a-brief-history/

          While we are at it Mexicans turn a darker shade of brown!
          I don’t blame Mexicans for turning California into a shithole I blame progressive policies endless tax and spend schemes with the money being shunted elsewhere and NEVER for what it was originally stolen. I also blame sanctuary city nonsense!

    • devon44 July 8, 2019 at 11:43 am #

      Nice dog whistle there, with the ‘spittle-flecked’ comment and referring to anyone who has boundaries as a dumb redneck. You’ve made it clear that you’re on the side of the crazies that want to burn down western civilization because they have it too good, and they are bored.

      My question is this – do you realize that every day there are fewer people who respond to, or even care about, your little liberal dog whistle?

    • elysianfield July 8, 2019 at 12:37 pm #

      “Okay, I know that these spittle-flecked tirades play well with the rednecks who now make up the bulk of your comment section,”

      Venus,
      …Well, my skin is white, but my neck is red…
      And I put mayonnaise on my Wonder Bread…..

      I guess that you have us well categorized. The commenters on this site are, however, a relatively well-educated bunch, and the age demographic can indicate much in the way of wisdom acquired. Wisdom, however, can be seen as a cynical viewpoint. Interesting how the aged are often considered cynical, from those with less life-experience.

      In my ignorant youth, I had many liberal and libertarian views…now, long past my “three score and ten”, I see the world with a different filter.

      What is the difference between cynicism and wisdom?

  10. peter m July 8, 2019 at 10:42 am #

    “The cover-story for all that is the completely insane doctrine called Modern Monetary Theory (MMT) which states that a nation with the world’s reserve currency can never go bankrupt as long as it can keep “printing” more money”

    That is not what MMT says, it has nothing to do with reserve currency but with sovereign currencies.

    https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/06/randy-wray-modern-monetary-theory-basics.html

    “The problem is not the “thin air” nature of the creation, but rather the quantities of “money” created and the purposes for which it was created. Government spending for the public purpose is beneficial, at least up to the point of full employment of the nation’s resources. Bank lending for public and private purposes that are beneficial publicly and privately is also generally desirable.”

    Maybe Mr. K should familiarize himself with the theory first that governments issue money first and tax later.
    The glaring example was Germany after WW2 when the Deutschmark was created out of thin air and a basic 40 DM was distributed for exchange of the now worthless Reichsmark.

    http://bruegel.org/2019/02/on-modern-monetary-theory/

    “The base premise from which MMT later drew was that, under “functional finance”, fiscal policy should be the main instrument used to stabilise the economy – taxes, and not central-bank interest rates, should be used to remove people’s spending power and thus stave off inflation.”

    It is of course Mr. K’s blog, but I think in order to have some value he should refrain from posting misinformed statements.

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    • Epicur July 8, 2019 at 11:00 am #

      MMT will work like a charm, but the snake in that Eden is the authority and autonomy that the “managers” of the money supply will have to possess in order for it to work. “We the people” have proved that we always want to easy way out, as is “our” nature and as the founders knew we would do, but to have an even semi-stable monetary system there will have to be winners and losers – every tear cannot be dried.

      That responsibility, to say “NO” to the losers will require the end of “democracy”.

    • Ol' Scratch July 8, 2019 at 11:11 am #

      The trouble with MMT is that it merely explains what is already happening and has been happening since at least the 70’s. The rub is the political decisions about what to do with all that money, and of course that’s long since been decided as well. Inflated asset prices across the board and money pouring into corporate and financial interests’ coffers, bupkis for everyone else. That train has already came and went for the last time.

    • JohnAZ July 8, 2019 at 11:33 am #

      One question

      What happens when there is no more money to theorize about?

      That is what is coming!

    • volodya July 8, 2019 at 2:58 pm #

      So there IS such a thing as a free lunch. Where do we line up?

      • Ol' Scratch July 8, 2019 at 3:07 pm #

        At the Fed discount window, of course! One small caveat: Valid club card holders only!

  11. Epicur July 8, 2019 at 10:43 am #

    “…whether the USA can even remain intact when these tensions give way.”

    That is a question, but the res publica is a dead man walking.

    There is no democratic solution to the situation we have created. Like all “democracies” we will resort to a strongman (and all of these are oligarchies in disguise) to cut the knot and free us from the bonds of indecision.

    I truly believe that many, if not most, of the politicians and deep state bureaucrats know that the Republic is doomed and are just jockeying for position when the “Emergency” is declared.

    We had a nice run, but are near its end.

  12. jdhines July 8, 2019 at 10:47 am #

    So, the USA Women’s Soccer team has won their 4th World Cup. Impressive. Megan Anna Rapinoe, the heroine of the day, won the coveted Golden Shoe trophy. Well done. Go USA!

    I guess, according to GGG and Piers Morgan, Megan is now free to say what she wants about a visit to the f*@#king White House. Nice.

    “On the eve of the 2019 World Cup championship match, British television host Piers Morgan blasted the “arrogance” of U.S. Women’s National Soccer Team co-captain Megan Rapinoe, citing reports she and a majority of players won’t visit the White House if invited by President Donald Trump.

    Morgan, a self-proclaimed friend of Trump, responded to Rapinoe’s claims to reporters Saturday that “not many, if any” of the U.S. women’s soccer team players would celebrate a World Cup win with the president.

    Update: On Sunday, Rapinoe and the U.S. Women’s national soccer team did, in fact, win the World Cup against the Netherlands. Piers Morgan has not remarked on the victory as of Sunday afternoon.

    The Good Morning Britain host and outspoken sports critic echoed Trump’s complaint that Rapinoe should “WIN first before she TALKS!” before the U.S. faces the Netherlands for the World Cup title.

    Morgan was responding to an Associated Press reporter’s tweet: “Megan Rapinoe claims ‘not many if any players’ will go to the White House to see @realDonaldTrump if they win #fifawwc, ‘but I haven’t spoken to everyone about it.'”

    “The arrogance of this is breathtaking. Try winning it first, Ms Rapinoe – then inform us of your latest tiresome political activism,” Morgan tweeted Saturday.

    However, Morgan failed to take into account that Trump has already personally invited Rapinoe and the rest of the women’s soccer team to the White House “win or lose.”

    Morgan was among Britain’s most outspoken complainers after U.S. women’s soccer team co-captain Alex Morgan simulated sipping a cup of tea after she scored the go-ahead goal against the British team last week. On Twitter, Morgan wrote, “Come on @Lionesses – make these cocky yanks choke on it.”

    Ah, TOO BAD Piers, you Limey Bastard!

    • Soloview July 8, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

      Interesting, though the question is to whom. I find following women’s soccer about as idle as counting cockroaches in an empty peanut butter jar. And, if the U.S. produces the best soccer played by butches and trannies in the world, so f*ckin’ what?

      • jdhines July 8, 2019 at 12:23 pm #

        >>> “if the U.S. produces the best soccer played by butches and trannies in the world, so f*ckin’ what?”

        I believe that could be said about any sport, no?

        No one asked you to follow anything, not even the NFL, golf, MBL, NBA, tennis or ping pong, badminton and pickleball, for that matter. You pays your money, and you takes your pick, like everything else on offer.

      • Nightowl July 8, 2019 at 3:02 pm #

        They were destroyed by a U-15 team from Dallas.

        I played soccer/footy at a high level for years and could never get into women’s soccer.

        • Nightowl July 8, 2019 at 3:03 pm #

          Should have read “U-15 boys team.”

        • Tate July 8, 2019 at 3:22 pm #

          If you had a 2nd or 3rd rate men’s team that was competing at the highest level, you’d have to ask, ‘how is this game rigged?’ That’s what women’s soccer is.

        • jdhines July 9, 2019 at 10:54 am #

          Yes, that scrimmage game was interesting, and they did get beat 5-2 (I recall) as they were “working” out some “on field strategies” and not really in it to win it, but an unofficial loss is, well an unofficial loss.

          Some people must find Women’s Soccer interesting as the number one selling jersey of all time, is Megan’s! I suppose girls and women enjoy watching Women’s soccer too.

          Certainly there is a place for Women’s soccer in the pantheon of sports, no?

          I don’t watch any soccer, men’s or women’s, for that matter. Nor do I watch football, baseball, basketball or hockey, except for the occasional game I see at the bar I frequent all too often. I do really enjoy boxing however, but it is too much of a rip on HBO, but man… that is entertainment… men’s or women’s boxing! The head jarring blows, the body shots and the… well, I digress.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2019 at 1:03 pm #

      Yeah, cuz sportsmanship is just for old White Men, right? You’re batting zero lately hynes. Why should we accept from women behavior we would never accept from men?

      This is the soft “fascism” of lower expectations. And you’re both a racist and a sexist according to this metric. Thankfully all such women will so be pushed out of women’s sports by wholesome, patriotic trans-women.

      • jdhines July 8, 2019 at 1:28 pm #

        Janos,

        I am not following you here. What is it that you wish to say? I didn’t say sportsmanship is for old White Men. What behavior am I accepting from Women athletes, winning? All women soccer teams that beat other all-women teams shouldn’t be celebrated?

        Oh, wait, are you pissed because gay girls can be tough, just like straight girls can be tough? And lower expectations? How is being the best in the world for the fourth time, a low expectation? You say I’m batting zero, but it seems to be more than enough to beat you today.

        I still don’t get your point on fascism and how I am a racist and sexist, other than you say I am, which does not hold all that much weight.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2019 at 6:01 pm #

          Here is the end of what you pasted – did you read it? Apparently you did because you chimed in with a vulgarity:

          Morgan was among Britain’s most outspoken complainers after U.S. women’s soccer team co-captain Alex Morgan simulated sipping a cup of tea after she scored the go-ahead goal against the British team last week. On Twitter, Morgan wrote, “Come on @Lionesses – make these cocky yanks choke on it.”

          Ah, TOO BAD Piers, you Limey Bastard!

          JS: The “girls” celebrated excessively after every goal – just like Blacks tend to do until made to stop doing it.

          • Majella July 8, 2019 at 8:55 pm #

            Janos

            Have you watched any international or top-level MEN’S football games?

            That these players “celebrated excessively after every goal” is neither unusual nor ‘black’ behavior.

            As well, the “excessively” is just your uninformed opinion, which isn’t worth much anywhere, anyway.

          • jdhines July 9, 2019 at 10:57 am #

            I see, you’re pissed because she “spiked” the football in the end-zone, a la black American athletes. I knew we would get to the race of the matter in due course. I thought the tea cup move was quite amusing!!! It got a lot of coverage and it was just good clean fun, no foul, no harm.

          • GreenAlba July 9, 2019 at 11:49 am #

            “after she scored the go-ahead goal against the British team last week.”

            There is no British team in either the men’s or the women’s world cup.

        • hmuller July 8, 2019 at 6:54 pm #

          It’s too bad the US Women’s Team soccer victory was marred by the usual political posturing.

          See complete story at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-08/us-soccer-fans-shout-fk-trump-and-equal-pay-after-world-cup-win

          “Following the United States’ 2-0 victory over the Netherlands in the final match of the Women’s World Cup on Sunday, a group of American soccer fans in France chanted “Fuck Trump” during a live television broadcast by Fox News.”

          “Meanwhile, chants of “equal pay” could be heard from the stands in Lyon, France, as a crowd booed FIFA President Gianni Infantino over the disparity in pay between male and female soccer players”.

          Of course, the ever vigilant social crusader Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez chimed in

          “At this point we shouldn’t even be asking for #EqualPay for the #USWMNT – we should demand they be paid at least twice as much”

          Well here’s a summary of the numbers crunching:
          2018 Men’s Cup – Revenue $6 billion – 7% paid to players
          2019 Women’s Cup – Revenue $131 million – 13% paid to players.

          The Men’s Cup generated 46 times the revenue, hence the higher pay, even though a lower percentage went to players.

          AOC wants the women paid much more than the tournament’s total revenue. This is the logic of a very young child who wants everything, wants it her way, and wants it now!

          Maybe it shouldn’t be too surprising. We live in a country where nearly everyone believes the marketplace’s job of determining fair value can be forever circumvented by creative accounting tricks and chicanery.

          Print more money, let the FED buy all that treasury debt – hell, let the FED buy stocks if it helps, suppress interest rates, drive them to zero, drive them to negative rates, control commodity prices via derivatives, lie about inflation, unemployment, and every economic statistic.

          This house of lies must eventually fall. And AOC will be convinced it’s because we didn’t follow her advice.

          • Billy Hill July 8, 2019 at 9:34 pm #

            Thank you Muller for the numbers.

            And Thank You NightOwl for the news of the U-15 boys in Dallas.

            Anyone involved with the sport at the junior and collegiate level knows the truth of the matter.

            What’s the audience/revenue for NBA women? Hmmm, I’ll bet not that many zeroes.

            The non-team sports fare better for women, but Federer will beat the Williams sisters playing singles against their doubles.

            OK, I am getting carried away here.

          • GreenAlba July 9, 2019 at 6:10 am #

            Billy Hill

            The non-team sports fare better for women, but Federer will beat the Williams sisters playing singles against their doubles.

            OK, I am getting carried away here.

            I take it you think heavyweight boxers should fight the flyweights? Or that the flyweights otherwise should just go and play ping pong or something more on their level?

            Which is fine as a point of view, obviously, as long as we have consistency.

          • Nightowl July 9, 2019 at 6:34 am #

            In the case of the revenue streams for men’s and women’s team sports, I think it is rather logical that revenue will dictate what the athletes receive.

            What I am more interested in is whether woke Ms. Rapinoe will apply her wokster politics consistently and start pushing for trendy transgender athletes to enter into women’s soccer/football.

            I suspect that despite all her bluster, she won’t. 😉

          • Billy Hill July 9, 2019 at 7:48 am #

            GA writes:

            “I take it you think heavyweight boxers should fight the flyweights? Or that the flyweights otherwise should just go and play ping pong or something more on their level?”

            Sacre Bleu! I am now a victim of the “how do you know what I think? You are putting words in my mouth” crowd!

            I want reparations.

            “Which is fine as a point of view, obviously, as long as we have consistency.” Hmmmm. Will ponder that one. But FWIW I do not think the heavyweights should fight the flyweights. Without evenly-matched adversaries sport is boring and the stands empty, people change the channel.

            I have no issue with women’s athletics. But the professional team sports will be less interesting than men’s at the same level. This is reflected in the revenue numbers.

            I do have an issue with the coarseness of Rapinoe and the families of the team members.

          • GreenAlba July 9, 2019 at 8:16 am #

            Billy Hill

            “Sacre Bleu! I am now a victim of the “how do you know what I think? You are putting words in my mouth” crowd!

            I want reparations.”

            You’re welcome to a drink, if you’re passing, although my question did have a question mark. But I was trying to follow up on the logic of your making a point about men beating women if they played against each other, which they obviously would. You seemed to be saying that their sport has less validity per se because they play other women and not men. Hence the analogy.

            I quite agree that men’s football is of a different level than women’s, as you’d expect it to be. Likewise I don’t see any problem with them earning less as a result. But I’m not into spectator sports anyway and their pay is the least of my concerns.

          • jdhines July 9, 2019 at 11:03 am #

            So it all comes down to money, eh?

            If your little girl enjoys playing soccer and watching other girls/women play, she shouldn’t enjoy the game or watch ’cause it doesn’t draw big bucks/crowds?

            No team camaraderie, exercise, sportswomanship, fun, bonding, etc. just buck$? And all this is associated with the FED and AOC, how? Please ‘splain this to me and the others.

          • jdhines July 9, 2019 at 11:11 am #

            >>> “In the case of the revenue streams for men’s and women’s team sports, I think it is rather logical that revenue will dictate what the athletes receive.”

            One would think so, but it does not work that way in the “real” world. Many CEOs make many millions of dollars, even when their companies are losing money, hand over fist. Shouldn’t net income streams dictate what CEOs receive or is that different?

            Also, many American CEOs make much more (many multiples) than their European counterparts, even though the Euro companies are bigger, more profitable, have more employees and more revenue. Go figure. Wouldn’t it be swell if the world followed some logic?

          • Nightowl July 9, 2019 at 2:56 pm #

            JD,

            There will always be corruption, state intervention, and other variables in the real world that will affect who gets what.

            But the fact remains, so long as women’s soccer is (far) less profitable, the athletes will be paid less. And it will remain less profitable, because men’s soccer is the pinnacle of the sport

          • hmuller July 9, 2019 at 3:43 pm #

            jdhines, I agree that in the USA corporate CEO’s are shamefully overpaid. The myth of the meritocracy keeps most Americans docile and accepting of the idiots who run our society.

            Some people think professional athletes are also overpaid, but it’s like comparing oranges to apples. The athletes’ compensation is tied to performance (and having a good agent).

            A crappy athlete will not be helped by his membership in Skull and Bones, the Mayflower Society, and that whole network of elitist good old boys who scratch each other’s backs.

            Can you imagine some one saying “That Jeb Bush is by far the worst pitcher in professional baseball. But he comes from such a fine, old family. Let’s pay him more than all the other pitchers.”

          • Billy Hill July 10, 2019 at 9:24 am #

            GA writes above — hope I am getting the indentation correct —
            “You’re welcome to a drink, if you’re passing, although my question did have a question mark. But I was trying to follow up on the logic of your making a point about men beating women if they played against each other, which they obviously would. You seemed to be saying that their sport has less validity per se because they play other women and not men.”

            Been a while since I have been to Edinborough but we are planning to visit Scotland soon. Need to see Knockan-crag.

            Re men beating women which they obviously would, um… I have been soundly beaten at singles tennis by women. My daughter played competitive club and NCAA soccer. I coached both U-10 boys and girls and much preferred the maturity of the girls. Have played on Co-ed soccer teams with females whose technical ability far surpassed mine (but hey, by that time I was an old fart on the pitch with people half my age). There is no legitimacy or validity issue. BUT (you knew there was a but coming) let’s keep it in perspective and, if the US Women’s team is going to act like God’s gift to the universe and opine with vulgarity on the present state of politics, as they say, pride goeth before a Fall and some commenters here — I among them — are happy to get the ball rolling (cf Knockan-crag) and provide the perspective of U-15 BOYS (not men) smoking them as well as the comparative revenues generally in the Wide World of Sport. Whatever happened to Gracious In Victory?

          • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 12:45 pm #

            Well, I haven’t been following the politics or anyone’s opining from here in Edinburgh, BillyH – I only watched a couple of matches and missed the final, so I’ll have to take your word for whatever has gone on – it’s not been highlighted here as far as I’ve personally seen or heard about on the news.

            When I said men would be expected to beat women, I meant at similar levels within the same sport. I don’t imagine my brother would get on very well against five members of the women’s team either (he only plays five-a-side with his workmates!).

            I meant that a world cup team of men would normally beat a world cup team of women – and I expect Andy Murray would most likely beat his mixed doubles partner, Serena Williams, unless he was having an off day, but he’d have his work cut out for him.

            I think we are generally in agreement.

            I had to look up Knockan Crag! It looks wonderful. So many places I haven’t been even in my own country. And I have a lot more years behind me than I have in front of me…

  13. JohnAZ July 8, 2019 at 11:02 am #

    Addressing JHK’s premise, the readjustment of capital around the world is about to change humanity totally.

    The really scary part is that no one really know what the world is going to morph into. World Made by Hand is one guys idea. I think it is too optimistic. Everyone hates the elite, everyone hates those with more than themselves. And wants to take it.

    The economic elite have a function however. They provide a structure for the economy of the world. Without the elite, there would be chaos.

    And we do not have a clue what form that chaos will take. Who is going to be Superman to rescue the world? I will bet that a few names like Soros, or Rothschild or Rockefeller would like to volunteer. When they do, kiss your individuality and freedom goodbye.

    Just at the time when individual responsibility will be needed more than anything else. For the idiots that hint that socialism is the answer to the future, imagine socialism with no financial ability to help. The government will be a figment of the imagination. What is the fuel for the socialist’s train, taxes and debt. With no capital, there will be neither, thus there will be no government.

    The young politicos in the House are fantasizing deniers. They cannot even visualize a world without endless capital available. I wonder if they really believe what they say, or if it is all a power show.

    • montsegur July 8, 2019 at 11:59 am #

      Who is going to be Superman to rescue the world? I will bet that a few names like Soros, or Rothschild or Rockefeller would like to volunteer. When they do, kiss your individuality and freedom goodbye.

      JohnAZ, more likely, most of us will learn the phrase, Yes, massa!.

      The old economic model of serfs and minor lords comes to mind.

      Cheers

    • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2019 at 1:06 pm #

      Yeah no freedom of speech is righteous and moral because Big Companies have the right to control what is said on their venues. Fail again, John. You need to study more about early America, the COMMONWEALTH of Massachusetts and other Commonwealths, and their concept of the Commons, etc.

      Every viable society has aspects of socialism, even your precious Corpocracy. It’s just not good or equitable socialism.

      • hmuller July 8, 2019 at 7:25 pm #

        We have continuing socialist bail-outs, subsidies, and unearned handouts for the bankers and corporatocracy. Something John seems to have forgotten,

        As for how we need the economic elite… please, don’t make me wet myself with uncontrolled laughter (starting to become a danger at my age). They need us.

        Yes, someone will always be in charge. But we could unload this bunch from barges into the ocean and find better economic managers in the mid tiers. People who will do a better job and not demand 100 X a working man’s salary.

    • Majella July 8, 2019 at 8:59 pm #

      JohnAZ:

      “everyone hates those with more than themselves. And wants to take it.”

      That’s quite a generalization to make. I invite you to speak for yourself, in which case you should have written:

      “I hate those with more than me. And want to take it”.

  14. izzy July 8, 2019 at 11:05 am #

    I’m in favor of calling it the Two-Headed Party System. Neither frothing maw has much to offer that is actually useful for the situation coming down on us all, while the incorporated body wobbles towards the precipice. The only uncertainty is exactly how bad the fall will be, and who can get up afterwards.

  15. teddyboy46 July 8, 2019 at 11:26 am #

    IMHO , Trump will be elected on Social Issues and Immigration, Not the economy. Because only the uber rich are benefiting from the stock market lunacy.

    About paying back all that debt . I am skeptical because there is to much of it . A hundred generations could not pay it back, I will have to be discharged in Bankruptcy. Which is easy to say . Has a Nation ever gone Bankrupt?

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    • jdhines July 8, 2019 at 12:14 pm #

      Relative to the accumulated debt, something along the lines of $22 Trillion and going up rapidly. There are but three choices, which one do you think is more likely?

      1. Pay the debt off. As teddyboy46 mentioned, this is not bloody likely, as the number is simply too great, UNLESS (see #2).

      2. Inflate your way out of the debt. When a cheeseburger costs $10,000, $22 Trillion of debt is a lot easier to manage. Fun facts: Who loves inflation? Well, debtors love it because they payback in worthless dollars. Who is the world’s largest debtor, by far? That would be Uncle Sugar, the good old USofA. Do you see a connection here?

      3. Repudiate the debt. (refuse to fulfill or discharge (an agreement, obligation, or debt). “breach of a condition gives the other party the right to repudiate a contract” synonyms: cancel, set aside, revoke, rescind, reverse, retract, overrule, override, overturn, invalidate, nullify, declare null and void, abrogate; refuse to fulfill, disregard, ignore, disobey, dishonor, renege on, go back on, backtrack on; disaffirm, avoid, vacate. “Egypt repudiated the treaty.”

      So which of the three (or combination) do you think it is? My money is on number 2, with number 3 being the final solution, once number 2 has had a good long run to prove that we cannot print our way out of this mess. Number 1 is simply off the table for practical and mathematical reasons, such as where is all that loot for payback going to come from… Paying off the debt is next to impossible at this late date, given the politics and practical matters involved.

      See you at the bottom!

      • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 12:36 pm #

        yes, I and many others have wondered, when the music stops, who will be left standing with no chair in this game of musical chairs?

      • hmuller July 8, 2019 at 12:57 pm #

        Foreign countries like Argentina which borrow money in dollars and must repay it in dollars are screwed because they cannot legally create more dollars. So they always resort to option #3.

        Since the FED can print infinite quantities of dollars, I doubt the USA will resort to #3. And #1 is impossible, so I’m going with #2.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2019 at 1:34 pm #

        Just write the Bankers a Check and let them worry about finding someone to cash it. Or they could just print their own money and pay themselves – but not with our Currency. In other words, 3, drive them out. As did Iceland and of course National Socialist Germany – creating the economic miracle that they don’t want you to know about.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2019 at 1:35 pm #

          What we should do, not what we will do of course.

          • Majella July 8, 2019 at 9:04 pm #

            Life without corrupt bankers:

            The economy of Iceland is small and subject to high volatility. In 2011, gross domestic product was US$12.3bn, but by 2017 it had increased to a nominal GDP of US$24bn. With a population of 350,000, this is $50,000 per capita, based on purchasing power parity estimates (Wikipedia)

      • jdhines July 8, 2019 at 1:49 pm #

        “central banks have created a speculative monster. The public cover for central bank easing has always been to “stimulate growth” in the real economy, but the real effect has been to concentrate the newly issued currency and leverage (“money”) in the few hands that own most of the speculative (“risk on”) assets. This pool of new money has been augmented by cheap credit for global corporations, enabling management to buy back trillions of dollars of stock, thereby enriching stock holders and those collecting stock options as part of their management compensation.” by Charles Hugh Smith

        • hmuller July 8, 2019 at 3:37 pm #

          So true.

      • Linda July 8, 2019 at 8:36 pm #

        According to Catherine Austin Fitts and Dr. Mark Skidmore, there is an additional twenty-one trillion dollars unaccounted for. All the experts who are interviewed by Greg Hunter are predicting a crash as well, as are many others.

  16. RB July 8, 2019 at 11:33 am #

    There is not enough time remaining in Trump’s tenure to prosecute the leftist thugs who are still trying to bring the executive branch to its knees. Democrats will delay, delay, delay with endless subpoenas in collusion with the MSM. Then, the election will be stolen by the vote counters in key states. Trump can hardly win 2020 no matter what. Throw in federal judges from the left and you are looking at a snow in hell scenario that anyone mentioned by Mr. K will be held accountable.

    I am not convinced that Trump will even run a second time. I would not be surprised if he cuts a deal with the NY Attorney General where he bows out of the race. The man stands no chance in a NY court.

    Besides, Trump will not want to be left standing with this musical chair economy. Let someone else have the honor of scapegoat.

    • jdhines July 8, 2019 at 12:42 pm #

      RB, I think you are onto something here. It does seem increasingly unlikely that Trump can prevail in ’20 although I, and many others, were wrong about ’16. I don’t know how much the polls can be relied upon when Trump is on the ticket. There are too many people who will not openly say that they are pro-Trump. No courage of their convictions, I suppose, but they may still vote for the loveable rascal.

      You are correct in that the MSM and the Dems will do everything in their power to deny Trump a second term. Then you have the Republican “Never Trumpers,” the female vote, that he appears to be losing, the folks getting screwed by the tariffs, namely small manufacturing companies and what’s left of small family farms.

      He would be wise to cut some sort of deal with the New York authorities as it seems they do have it in for him. They just passed a law allowing the state of NY to give up his (anyone’s) State Tax returns to the Feds, so it is only a matter of time, perhaps.

      There could be a lot of trouble waiting for GGG when his term is up, but he is very slippery and may yet be able to slip away. It will be entertaining to watch the slugfest and see he goes down hard, Dem “X” or DJT.

      • jdhines July 8, 2019 at 12:44 pm #

        Entertaining, but in the end, the ’20 outcome won’t matter much at all. The two-headed party of the Elites, always wins in the end.

  17. FincaInTheMountains July 8, 2019 at 11:40 am #

    Political History of Art, Losharik and the World War of the Roses

    Of course, I lost a lot not seeing “Game of Thrones” in time, and although I didn’t like the film, but, having tracked the chronology of the episodes, I can’t deny that the film was about actual politics of that time, and most of the approaches of the authors of this film are similar to my approaches, especially the reference of modern times to the War of the Roses.

    But as I wrote, the similarity makes even more striking contrast the difference between the film describing medieval England, in which they never heard of Christ, and the theory of World Projects that originated in medieval England and sides differing in their attitude to Christ.

    Meanwhile, the sweep in the United States continues to gain momentum: one of the most famous US admirals, William Moran, who was nominated for the position of commander of the US Navy, unexpectedly resigned.

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/admiral-become-navys-top-officer-retire-instead-citing-054701955.html

    He began as a pilot of the Orion reconnaissance aircraft and later his career was connected with naval intelligence, which reminds me that it was German naval intelligence officers on the eve of World War II who collected information about art collections in countries that were subsequently occupied so quickly that the owners of these collections did not have time to escape and their collections, hidden in caches across Europe, became the basis of notorious Bormann’s money and Adenauer’s economic miracle.

    And if you recall, in the movie “17 Moments of Spring” negotiations and sharing of information between Allen Dulles and SS General Wolff in Bern began with a discussion of the contents of one of these caches.

    And in the previous post, I wrote that if Sunday political programs did not discuss the state of emergency in the United States that turned around the Pence plane over Atlantic, this would confirm the theories of Trump’s supporters about the connection of this state of emergency with the accident at Deepwater Losharik. So, out of four hours on four different channels, no one said a single word about the state of emergency in Washington.

    Again:

    Not a single channel said a single word about the state of emergency declared in Washington!

    But that’s not all:

    Not a single channel said a single word about the seven-point earthquake in California and about the possibility of a “Big One” in the very near future too!

    And these people forbid me to poke around in my nose saying that Trump and Putin are attacking freedom of speech!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtRFyiLYJZs

    It is not surprising that the media ceased to be a source of information and bloggers and forums come to replace them. The most interesting thing is that at one of the American forums I just read that the solution to the mystery of Losharik can be found in Konchalovsky’s film “Sin”, which Putin presented to the Pope of Rome.

    And apparently this gift is either a threat and a hint of compromising materials that Putin has on Pope, or a colossal setup of the president by that . What once again demonstrates the importance of the Political History of Art!

    If I will be able to get the movie online, I will write about Michelangelo at least something reasonable, although not necessarily good and eternal.

    But most importantly, I will write about the solution to the mystery of Losharik, if I find it there, although I already seem to have guessed what it can be!

    • devon44 July 8, 2019 at 11:48 am #

      I actually made an effort to understand your post. I failed.

      • FincaInTheMountains July 8, 2019 at 12:03 pm #

        You are probably new to this site and missed a lot what I have been writing here for the last 5 years.

        The current geopolitical landscape is packed with events of utmost importance, and the post to some degree reflects that.

        So, may be we could separate a part of it – about the importance of Political History of Arts compared to official history, about the War of the Roses in the England of 15 century which I use as a model to describe current events or about the Deepwater Losharik submarine and how it could be connected to seven-point earthquake in California.

        Ask and you will be answered!

      • Tate July 8, 2019 at 12:41 pm #

        That was your first mistake. Trying to understand his ravings.

        • FincaInTheMountains July 8, 2019 at 12:48 pm #

          Their eyes are closed, and they cannot see. Their minds are shut, and they cannot think.

          Isaiah 44:18

          • Ol' Scratch July 8, 2019 at 5:03 pm #

            Do I sense another opium reverie coming on down there in your Caribbean Heart of Darkness, Finc?

  18. capt spaulding July 8, 2019 at 11:42 am #

    They’ll find an opening for him somewhere.

  19. Walter B July 8, 2019 at 11:44 am #

    What a great analogy Jim, you have once again demonstrated why you are the author and we are the readers! I cannot until the two runaway trains finally meet head on in what can be the only solution – chaos. Best we set our houses in order soon, I hear that clock a ticking.

    • Majella July 8, 2019 at 9:10 pm #

      Ironic, co-incidental?

      Tomorrow is the 101st anniversary of the Nashville Great Train Wreck…

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Train_Wreck_of_1918

      • Walter B July 8, 2019 at 11:40 pm #

        And in 1971 Henry Kissinger visited the People’s Republic of China to negotiate a detente between the US and China, another train wreck waiting to happen!

  20. PeteAtomic July 8, 2019 at 11:45 am #

    I hear the train a comin’
    It’s rollin’ ’round the bend
    And I ain’t seen the sunshine
    Since, I don’t know when
    I’m stuck in Folsom Prison
    And time keeps draggin’ on
    But that train keeps a-rollin’
    On down to San Antone
    When I was just a baby
    My Mama told me, “son
    Always be a good boy
    Don’t ever play with guns”
    But I shot a man in Reno
    Just to watch him die
    When I hear that whistle blowin’
    I hang my head and cry
    I bet there’s rich folks eatin’
    In a fancy dinin’ car
    They’re probably drinkin’ coffee
    And smokin’ big cigars
    Well, I know I had it comin’
    I know I can’t be free
    But those people keep a-movin’
    And that’s what tortures me
    Well, if they freed me from this prison
    If that railroad train was mine
    I bet I’d move it on a little
    Farther down the line
    Far from Folsom Prison
    That’s where I want to stay
    And I’d let that lonesome whistle
    Blow my blues away

    — Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson

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    • Ol' Scratch July 8, 2019 at 4:54 pm #

      I saw the other day on Real Sports that Ol’ Willie is living on Maui now next to former Celtics player and Warriors coach Don Nelson, of all people. Nelson’s got his own grow operation and the whole nine yards, which is evidently legal there as long as you don’t traffic in the shit. From the looks of the spliffs they were smoking while playing poker, they definitely didn’t have any left over for sale. They both look like a couple of beat up old suitcases now, but it appears they’re having a grand old time in their old age. Da’ kin’ buds will do that for you, or so I hear.

      • PeteAtomic July 9, 2019 at 6:39 pm #

        yep that’s right.

        He tends bar at a little place called Charlie’s Saloon in Paia, on Maui.

  21. montsegur July 8, 2019 at 11:53 am #

    That is what it’s come to for the party of Franklin Roosevelt and Jack Kennedy.

    Jim, a powerful statement. Indeed, that is what it has come to. How depressing in general, how tragic for the future of the USA.

    statistical spirit cooking

    LOL. But not so funny that a significant Democratic personage, who advised both Clintons, allowed himself to place on record such disgusting and perverse activity speaks volumes not only about his arrogance, but about his stupidity as well. Donkey On, Democrats.

    Cheers

    • Walter B July 8, 2019 at 12:28 pm #

      It seems to me that when Marcello, Trafficate, and Giancana executed Jack Kennedy in Dealey Plaza, the democratic party’s reaction was to shitcan the Kennedy mantra and adopt that utilized by organized crime instead. Steal what you can, bully the public, and kill anybody that threatens the status quo. Shut up and pay has replaced “of the people, by the people, for the people”.

  22. Soloview July 8, 2019 at 12:14 pm #

    I love these twice-a-week sky-is-falling petards by Jim. I have come to rely on them to balance out my addiction to Powerball, TV and oxycontin.

    • Soloview July 8, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

      Oh, yeah, I almost forgot: is there anything, I can do to cheer you up, man?

    • Walter B July 8, 2019 at 1:13 pm #

      Powerball, TV, oxycontin and the plethora of other activities, pastimes and mood altering substances are far more valuable to a healthy American economy than anything that we here do or say. If there were more people like Jim and I and the others who consider the possibilities of negative returns on our actions, this country would have collapsed long ago. The American model today requires massive and ever increasing consumption of everything it can get its hands on so do not feel guilty in the slightest for playing a part in it.

      In the end, Jim Kunstler and those of us that foresaw a less than bright and shining future will not be able to gloat in the slightest. There is no victory in “I told you so”.

      • Robert White July 8, 2019 at 11:18 pm #

        Hedonism has always been in existence in opposition to asceticism and Christian fundamentalism, Walter. And pharmacopeia in organic form has always existed as far back as medicine is known in upper-paleolithic time if you want to look at Anthropological research.

        The Bible exhorts sobriety rightfully if one looks at asceticism in contradistinction to hedonistic pursuit and obvious resulting failure.
        Hugh Hefner died broke from hedonism but who are we to judge a man that made millions off of wearing pajamas & smoking a pipe whilst philandering with genotypically extraordinary women of childbearing age that are well endowed on secondary sex characteristics that happen to make money for the corporation?
        Capitalism exploits where it can, Walt.

        Everyone in the USA cannot be President Obama, I realize that, but Americans could at least try, eh. Obama did not rifle through office for the millions & billions like Trump or the Clinton regime.
        Trump is a money grubbing hedonist whereas Obama was not.

        Uncle Sam was never known to be benevolent or prone to asceticism as Uncle Sam is always characterized as pointing a finger at you and asking what you will do for America whilst he raids your assets in Civil Asset Forfeiture along state highways or sends you off to war whilst Wells Fargo is overcharging soldiers on subprime Residential Mortgage Backed Securities that good old Uncle Sam is invested in via the dark pooled off exchange non-bank subprime loans brokerages that fly under regulatory radar of Uncle Sam due to plausible deniability on Uncle Sam’s part.

        Uncle Sam is a hedonist too, Walter.

        RW

        • Walter B July 8, 2019 at 11:37 pm #

          No doubt Robert, no doubt. “I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord” is all I have to say. If they heed John’s words or not it matters not to me, my calling has other responsibilities than the souls of others. I shall do what I can, while I can to stay true to what is required of me. Thank you for sharing your wisdom, it is much appreciated. .

        • benr July 9, 2019 at 8:26 am #

          Your ideas about Obama have some dirt under the fingernails.
          Obama is no where near squeaky clean as he approaches a net worth of a billion dollars. He also has some alleged skeletons in the sexual closet as well.

    • PeteAtomic July 10, 2019 at 6:20 pm #

      “addiction to Powerball, TV and oxycontin.”

      ha ha! nice

      I’m more of a Crown Royal & Castle Danger beer man, myself. Well, you gotta pick your poison

  23. wm5135 July 8, 2019 at 12:38 pm #

    I tend to think of the parties (R&D) as the hands of a good body puncher. The hands of a brute delivering hard left and right hooks into the lower rib cages.

    “equitable distbribution” , not on a cold day in hell.

    Socialize the losses and privatize the profit. “that ain’t working, that’s the way you do it, Money for Nothin and Your Chicks for Free” knopfler

    • capt spaulding July 8, 2019 at 12:50 pm #

      Yup, Socialism for the rich, and Capitalism for the working class. It’s Bailout Time, wheeeee.

      • Majella July 8, 2019 at 9:15 pm #

        Next round, it’ll be “Bail-In Time”, where your ‘cash’ deposits of ‘money’ will be contributed proportionately in the cause of ‘the greater good’ i.e. that banksters.

        “A bail-in provides relief to a financial institution on the brink of failure by requiring the cancellation of debts owed to creditors and depositors.” (Investopedia)

  24. JohnAZ July 8, 2019 at 12:47 pm #

    Please fill me in.

    A few years back, I heard that someone was having Bill Clinton fly into an island in the Caribbean and that island was full of pedophiles.

    That was shushed immediately

    Now Epstein pops up and I do remember he was the guy.

    My question, after getting over the disgust, is how does an individual hide from law enforcement this long?

    And even more important, who else is involved here, Trump , Clinton so far, who else.

    Who can possibly go down for involvement? Abedin, HRC, Weiner, Bill, Trump, Cosby, sorry Pucker,

    Is Pizzagate going to come to the fore again.

    I am afraid that this may take out a layer of wealthy males who have used sex as a power tool for fifty years.

    Remember the enabler? Hugh Hefner!

    Will it take out the Elite? Odds are from history, NO.

    And by the way, where the heck did this pervert come from in the first place?

    • Epicur July 8, 2019 at 1:21 pm #

      FWIW, there is a post at Zero Hedge that says Trump was the only one to cooperate in a previous investigation of Epstein.

      Consider the source.

      https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-07/trump-was-only-one-help-prosecutor-2009-epstein-case

      • Nightowl July 8, 2019 at 3:07 pm #

        The laywer for some of the women said this himself back when the case was first tried.

        Trump also banned Epstein from Mar-a-lago after Eppy assaulted a young woman.

        The one flight he took on an Epstein plane was to hitch a ride to NYC.

        Pelosi’s daughter is tweeing about how the progs need to be prepared for some of their “faves” to go down.

        I wonder how long she has known who these folks are herself?

        • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 3:59 pm #

          NP has a pizza joint. Goat [satan] hill pizza. she co owned or owns.

          • Nightowl July 8, 2019 at 5:21 pm #

            Oh, I know. I lived in DC for years. I even played a few rock shows at Comet ping pong — back when they still had the pedo murals on the wall.

    • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 4:04 pm #

      full of pedophiles.–do not confuse pederasts with child molesters aka pedophiles.

  25. hmuller July 8, 2019 at 12:49 pm #

    Some have even speculated that Epstein’s primary role in life was not running a hedge fund. Yes, he did that after the Cabal set him up in business.

    But his primary function was to entice politicians, celebrities, billionaires, and other social elitists to his “Lolita Island” where they could be filmed engaging in what most would call “shameful practices”.

    The power of blackmail should not be underestimated.

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    • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2019 at 1:08 pm #

      Yes, just as Alefantis (sp?) was not primarily a Pizza Man in the ordinary sense of the word.

    • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 3:57 pm #

      Mossad?

    • Robert White July 9, 2019 at 12:13 am #

      Most Psychopaths & Sociopaths involved in politics are in it for the excitement & adulation plus power over others. Sex addiction is the type of risk behaviour that Psychopaths & Sociopaths often engage in due to thrill seeking behaviours that empower them to continue engaging in the same type of behaviour no matter how repulsive it actually is in terms of polite society or societal norms that most of us adhere to over the course of life.

      The power of addictions is much more powerful than blackmail actually is. Sex addiction has always been a part of the high flying life since money allowed for leisure instead of hardscrabble life &
      servitude to wage labour.

      Politicians want power & money so they can assure themselves they are at least not mundane compared to the rest of society. Sex is part of that entitlement, usually at the high end of public office.

      RW

      • hmuller July 9, 2019 at 3:53 pm #

        Yes, all that’s true. It’s also true there’s a hidden hand which doesn’t want to let politicians act as independent agents, each pursuing whatever policies please him. To invoke discipline and move them as a herd the carrot and the stick are used. Rewards and penalties – the latter including blackmail.

  26. Exscotticus July 8, 2019 at 12:53 pm #

    >>> And even more important, who else is involved here, Trump , Clinton so far, who else.

    Lots. Prince Andrew. Stephen Hawking. The list goes on and on. Obviously not implying that they engaged in unlawful behavior, merely that they went to Epstein’s Caribbean isle soirees.

    • Ol' Scratch July 8, 2019 at 3:25 pm #

      Stephen Hawking? I’ll bet that boy was into some kinky shit!

      • hmuller July 8, 2019 at 3:39 pm #

        Stephen Hawking! You just ruined my lunch.

        • Ol' Scratch July 8, 2019 at 4:44 pm #

          LOL!

          Reminds me of that old Drill Sergeant bit back in the day: Are you trying to eye fuck me, boy? Don’t you DARE try to eye fuck me, son!

          • BackRowHeckler July 8, 2019 at 5:47 pm #

            That line must be in the DI manual, I heard the same thing exactly.

            Brh

      • Exscotticus July 8, 2019 at 5:20 pm #

        >>> Stephen Hawking? I’ll bet that boy was into some kinky shit!

        I think it’s fair to say that the only black holes Hawkings pursued were of a celestial nature, and well beyond the age of consent.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2019 at 6:04 pm #

          He was well known at Strip Clubs of a more mundane nature, apparently. What could he do? Eye fuck at the very least.

          • hmuller July 9, 2019 at 4:02 pm #

            Maybe that’s why he once dedicated a book to “….a pole dancer named Rita, that G-string got me theorizing about strings.”

      • Robert White July 8, 2019 at 8:00 pm #

        I think Hawking started out reading Playboy magazine as his biography mentions a caregiver that understood his libidinal impulses & urges upon being tasked to care for him in a caregiver capacity. I would rather not think of Hawking attending Epstein’s island gatherings, frankly. The historical record indicates he liked Playboy mag as opposed to Larry Flint’s Hustler mag which pretty much contained all the kink compared to old Hef’s pajama parties with wonderwoman Gloria Steinem & Bill Cosby with his pharmacopeia of undergarment removal pills.

        RW

      • PeteAtomic July 10, 2019 at 6:21 pm #

        he musta been into watching 😉

        ha ha

  27. GhostOfHam July 8, 2019 at 12:56 pm #

    First off: I’m not ‘The People’ and neither are you.

    Second: when you vote, it is a plea, which does not have to be recognized; moreover,

    Third: it’s already International, Mr. Beale.

    The International Democratic UNION
    https://www.idu.org/members/ (click USA)

    The Republican Party
    Chairman: Ronna Romney McDaniel
    International Secretary: Chris J. Fussner
    Member category: Full Member
    Government status: In Government

  28. JohnAZ July 8, 2019 at 1:03 pm #

    A question for the troops.

    How much revenue does the women’s soccer draw versus men’s FIFA soccer?

    Pay depends on results. If the women draw more revenue than the men, they deserve more pay!

    If they don’t, they don’t.

    Business models set wages, not politics.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2019 at 1:39 pm #

      People what to see good players. That means men in an absolute sense. These Non-Rednecks Commentators have forgotten that men are better athletes than Women in most things.

  29. volodya July 8, 2019 at 1:04 pm #

    There will be good and goddamn sickness with race hustling and all that gender baloney. That’s because race and gender and identity hustling has no connection with the real material need in so much of the country.

    Let’s say that Democrats have their way with open borders, and they WILL have their way because open borders are a center-piece of the Oligarch agenda roughly known as neo-liberalism. Ignore for the moment the idiocies of equating detention centers with Nazi concentration camps, and ignore the intellectual and moral debility of defending AOC’s imbecilic assertions on that score. Ignore it because it’s a distractionary side issue and was likely intended as such.

    An aside: for my part I keep underestimating Democrat creativity in coming up with distractions. Think of it, tranny shitters, reparations, drag-queen story telling. Brilliant stuff.

    But while the Democrats exert their mental energies in that direction, there’s still the small issue of the economics of the newly arrived maintaining themselves in some adequate state. These people are, without exaggeration, destitute. It’s not like they cross the Rio Grande with a diversified portfolio of stocks and bonds and a couple million in cash. Have any of the towering intellects like AOC given any thought to how these folk feed and house themselves? Most are semi-literate, semi-skilled, and with little or no knowledge of English.

    People don’t just eat in theory or in the long run, they have to eat every day. There’s a lot of posturing about sanctuary cities, yet when the proposal was put forth that these illegals be trucked to said sanctuaries, the leaders of such places demurred, raising practical objections about capacity and resources.

    So, I guess that we can be encouraged as these apparent concerns were a tip of the hat to what we inhabitants of the real world call “reality”. The reality of it is that huge swathes of the country are without economic means after the orgy of offshoring of the last generation, with the resulting difficulties intentionally exacerbated by importing millions of new-comers at the same time as exporting millions of jobs.

    I don’t know how stupid you have to be to enact such self-evidently destructive policy. The economics profession makes a big deal about scarcity but I would submit that there’s no scarcity of foolishness. You see it manifest itself daily and hourly especially at the upper echelons of the political and income scale. It doesn’t take years of higher education, just a working set of eyes and a modicum of common sense to foresee coming upheaval.

    David Brooks can deplore all he likes, Mark Shields can fulminate, Judy Woodruff can be out of her skin with contempt. Maybe they think they can ride things out. But those of us in the world of the real can feel tremors in Trump’s election, in Brexit, in the Yellow Jacket festivities in France, in the 2 million strong demonstrations in Hong Kong, in the panoply of nationalist movements all over Europe. “Clueless elites” doesn’t properly characterize the sinkholes of witless idiocy like Brussels and London and Manhattan and Washington. I don’t know that there’s any consolation in any of this, maybe just that the system foisted on us, in the end will also spell the end of those that foisted it.

    • Epicur July 8, 2019 at 1:32 pm #

      “…in the end will also spell the end of those that foisted it.”

      They’re all dead already.

      We have been trapped like fish in a net for along time.

      The Purse Seine, Robinson Jeffers

      “…Lately I was looking from a night mountain-top
      On a wide city, the colored splendor, galaxies of light:
      how could I help but recall the seine-net
      Gathering the luminous fish? I cannot tell you how
      beautiful the city appeared, and a little terrible.
      I thought, We have geared the machines and locked all together
      into inter-dependence; we have built the great cities; now
      There is no escape. We have gathered vast populations incapable
      of free survival, insulated
      From the strong earth, each person in himself helpless, on all
      dependent. The circle is closed, and the net
      Is being hauled in. They hardly feel the cords drawing, yet
      they shine already. The inevitable mass-disasters
      Will not come in our time nor in our children’s, but we
      and our children
      Must watch the net draw narrower, government take all
      powers–or revolution, and the new government
      Take more than all, add to kept bodies kept souls–or anarchy,
      the mass-disasters.”

      • Epicur July 8, 2019 at 1:33 pm #

        https://www.poemhunter.com/poem/the-purse-seine/

        • Ol' Scratch July 8, 2019 at 3:21 pm #

          The inevitable mass-disasters
          Will not come in our time nor in our children’s

          I see he died in 1962, so that sounds about right. They’re coming now, in his great grandchildren’s times.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2019 at 5:46 pm #

      A case in point is the verse of three Hebrew words: V’ahavtah l’rechah kamocha, “Love thy neighbor as thyself.” How simple, how clear. How are we to love the “Neighbor?” And who is my “Neighbor?” Not only are the interpretations different in each different tradition, but they vary within the same tradition. The “love” imperative takes on different meanings. There are rabbis who, on semantic grounds, argue that “thy Neighbor” refers to b’nai amecha , “the children of your people.” Others go further in restricting the meaning of “Neighbor” by maintaining that “Neighbor” refers only to “good” Jews, to “observant” Jews, achichah b’torah uv’mitzvot,” your brother in law and observance.” Those who argue for a restrictive and exclusivist interpretation of “Neighbor” are thinkers of great prominence such as Maimonides and Rashbam (Rabbi Samuel Ben Mayer of the 11th Century). In the Likutei Amarim, Rabbi Schnayer Zalman, the founder of Chabad, interpreted the passage most of us understand as universalistic in a highly restrictive manner. When the Prophet Micah says, “Have we not one Father, has not one God created us all?” he refers only to real brothers, that is, to Israelites alone, for the source of their souls is in their one God.

      Such a restrictive notion of “Neighbor” has serious consequences, for love is not an abstract concept, a matter of general sentiment; its consequences are concrete ethical conduct and prescribe the relationship between Jews and non-Jews. Does, for example, the “love of Neighbor” mandate that we feed the poor of the non-Jew as we are obligated to feed the poor of the Jews? Or to bury the deceased of heathens as we are commanded to bury the deceased of the Jews? Or to console the bereaved of Gentiles as we are to console the bereaved of Jews? Are we to return the lost property of non-Jews because it is biblically mandated to return the lost property of “thy Neighbor”? In the verse preceding “Love thy Neighbor,” we read: “Thou shalt not stand idly by the blood of thy neighbor.” Following Moses Maimonides for one, in his Hilchoth Rotzeach , not standing idly by does not include “sinful” Jews or Gentiles, for none of these is “your Neighbor.”

      Rabbi Harold M Schulweis – The Ethics of the Neighbor

      JS: To be fair, this Rabbi repudiates such harshness later in the article, saying that many other Rabbis do as well. He says Christians are outside of this censure since they are not without principles and morality. I’m not so sure this is what he believes as the Talmud is blatant on this point, but this is what he says.

      In any case, “Whose in and Whose out” is a very basic question. By ignoring or pretending it’s not central is an obvious mistake. The question will loom ever larger as resources diminish and competition for them increases.

      • hmuller July 8, 2019 at 7:51 pm #

        For a gentile, I’ve read a lot about Judaism, and I’d sum things up this way. The answer to any question of Jewish religion depends on which Jew you ask.

      • Tate July 8, 2019 at 7:54 pm #

        Are gorillas or chimpanzees our neighbors? Only if you live next to the zoo. There are some reading this who will immediately say that I’m ‘dog-whistling,’ & that “gorillas & chimpanzees” stands for those of other races, especially Blacks. No, I’m not saying this. Obviously, you owe something to those of any human race no matter the degree of relatedness, especially if they are in distress. Just as you would to an animal caught in a trap to relieve its misery, either by killing it outright or releasing it & nurse it back to health. Which would you choose, dear reader? I would put it out of its misery immediately, but then, I’m not immersed in the virtue-signalling mentality.

        But it’s a matter of concentric circles. You don’t treat your child & a stranger the same. Why then, should you treat your neighbor whom you have known for many years & a stranger walking down your street taping fliers to your door the same? As a practical matter, you cannot. You have to treat the stranger as a potential threat at the same time that you depend on the time invested in raising your own — that it not produce ‘bad seed’ — as a good investment.

        Jesus said we should love our neighbor as ourself. But he didn’t mean the whole world. We didn’t have video at 10 at that time to tug at the heart-strings from half-way around the world & induce guilt (induced by the PTB). Thus it was easier to talk about the parable of the Good Samaritan.

        The Samaritans were an alien race to the Jews, even though they were closely related genetically, as we now know. They even considered themselves to be the true children of Israel, did the Samaritans (q.v.)… which is little known at present day because they are now so few.

        But the Judeans got lucky by being exiled to Babylon, where they could write their alternative history & perfect their cosmo dodge & include their manufactured history in their Tanakh & then they interbred with the European stock, the best of the best, to become the Ashkenazim, who created the unlikely necessity of a modern second return to Zion, even among Christian ‘allies’ (God help them) & have enjoyed the fruits thereof ever since, while playing the victim card all along.

        Those medieval English villagers who wouldn’t let anyone out to threaten with the plague bacillus also by inference weren’t letting anyone in so it was a two-way street. Meantime, they gain a mention in the history books of how virtuous they were. Then, some sob-sister reading about it centuries later could repeat the tale & thus ride on the coattails of that virtue-wave.

        Jesus said we should pray in private, didn’t he? Not as the pharisees did who prayed ostentatiously in public to display their virtue. Any one who claims “Now that’s real humanity,” is flying the peacock rainbow flag high & wide.

        • GreenAlba July 8, 2019 at 9:12 pm #

          “Those medieval English villagers who wouldn’t let anyone out to threaten with the plague bacillus also by inference weren’t letting anyone in so it was a two-way street.”

          It was still a one-way street, dimwit. People weren’t allowed out to spread plague outside the village and no-one was allowed in to catch plague from the villagers. What did you think they risked by anyone non-infected coming in? You are so desperate that you talk irrational nonsense. It was a one-way street of genuine virtue. Which you wouldn’t recognise if it slapped you across the face because you’re so twisted.

          “Any one who claims “Now that’s real humanity,” is flying the peacock rainbow flag high & wide.”

          Typical Tate bollocks. I’m happy to honour those who deserve honour and call out those who should be ashamed of themselves.

          I wonder, are you so sore you’ll bring it up again after Friday’s post? Probably. You are showing everyone what a twisted person you are, so I don’t need to.

          Only you could be so dimwitted as to think a bunch of mostly illiterate peasants in 1665 Derbyshire would imagine they’d end up in a history book. They weren’t even celebrated until 200 years later. The genuine virtue of the not-even-particularly brave eats and eats away at you, because the only way you can respect yourself is to try to disparage better people. And I don’t mean me – I have my own failings but I don’t share yours, you sad man.

          • Majella July 8, 2019 at 9:50 pm #

            Green Alba

            Wow.

          • hmuller July 8, 2019 at 11:55 pm #

            Double-Wow. Tate mentions “some sob-sister” and as if by magic summons forth Green Alba from her lair.

          • GreenAlba July 9, 2019 at 5:32 am #

            hmuller, you seem to have missed something. Tate is quoting me from a post on the previous thread. Seems he’s not the only one keen to jump on people without thinking to make a personal attack.

            Apologise for your comment if you feel up to it, but don’t feel obliged.

          • GreenAlba July 9, 2019 at 6:02 am #

            hmuller

            https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/ghosts-of-the-fourth/#comment-427032

            https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/ghosts-of-the-fourth/#comment-427243

            You also seem to have missed Majella’s comment at the end of the conversation. Things are not always as you interpret them.

            So wow indeed. Double wow, even.

            Perhaps you have an opinion on the actual event too which you could deposit at the entry to my lair. I’ll be happy to respond to it too. Although to most normal people it would be fairly self-explanatory. To those with personal grudges and petty, mean spirits, on the other hand, it could appear erroneously as a good opportunity for a personal attack.

          • hmuller July 9, 2019 at 4:16 pm #

            Yes, GA. I’m familiar with your earlier long discussion with Tate et al. (which I don’t wish to join). I meant my remarks more tongue in cheek than you read them. Sort of like “Speak of the devil! Here she is” I always delight at your appearance.

            But since I have your attention, I must complain about a product of your country – Fray Bentos Meatballs in Gravy. Today, I opened my first and hopefully last can. I expected meatballs. What I got had the texture and flavor of tofu. Now, I fully respect tofu as tofu, but not when it mendaciously impersonates a meatball. This stuff is only fit to be fed to German Green Party activists.

            Your thoughts?

          • GreenAlba July 9, 2019 at 8:12 pm #

            hm

            I tasted a Fray Bentos steak pie once as a child. They’re pretty disgusting – although I’m sure our mutt would be most grateful .

            I seem to have some kind of recollection of them being fed to the troops as they’re tinned and therefore suitable for that kind of thing.

            What I mostly remember is that there was a typhoid epidemic from Argentinian corned beef that centred around Aberdeen in the early 60s. Fray Bentos meat will forever be associated with that in my mind.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Aberdeen_typhoid_outbreak

            You should have asked me first, hm – I’d have warned you 🙂
            I once had some ‘chicken’ in a takeaway that had exactly the texture you describe.
            .
            Fray Bentos is probably on a par with Spam. which isn’t real food either (ducks for cover – I think someone on here lives where they make it!).

          • Tate July 9, 2019 at 9:25 pm #

            For reference:

            a novel, “Year of Wonders,” by Geraldine Brooks based on a historically-documented occurrence in a Derbyshire village:

            https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005DI9SKW/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0

            One individual, a vicar by the name of Montpellion, convinces everyone to quarantine themselves inside the village for a year after the plague arrives.

            Those are the bare facts, which was used to create a “bodice-ripper” in one Amazon reviewer’s words, complete with “mob-rule, flagellation, a puritan girl turned whore (cue al fresco sex and spewing), ghosts, witches, devil-worship, and a baby’s skull. The icing on this gothic pastiche cake comes in the shape of Anna and the (recently widowed) vicar, Michael Montpellion, engaging in bodice-ripper style sex – ‘a sharp pang of desire pierced me,’… ‘the warm rush of our pleasure pierced us both’.”

            Of course, we should approve of the vicar’s Christian concern for not spreading the disease (I don’t know anything about the fictional vicar’s motivations). Let’s remember though that as the moral authority in this 17th century village, he would have been very much concerned for the immortal salvation of his soul had he not taken this stand. Nothing wrong with that. This is one of the best arguments for Christianity, not whether it’s objectively “true” or not.

            The problem is that the modern secular reader would not frame it this way. And the proof of that is Green Alba herself. “Now that’s real humanity”. She prefers to believe in a free-floating altruism that scarcely exists in the real world outside of kinship networks but, in her ‘bodice-rippers’, does.

            “Oh, the humanity!”

            And that’s all I have to say on this. So no, GA, you won’t be hearing from me again on Friday regarding this subject.

          • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 8:20 am #

            “And that’s all I have to say on this. So no, GA, you won’t be hearing from me again on Friday regarding this subject.”

            Well, thank god for that.

            The novel is the novel, for which you’ll recall I said the actual events were the inspiration. Reading the novel as history is like taking your history from Braveheart, where Wallace gets to shag Queen Isabella. But yes, people were bawdy, superstitious and not terribly puritanical back then and earlier, despite their religious beliefs. I presume you’ve read some of the Canterbury Tales. We hadn’t yet arrived at Victorian respectability with its brothels hidden down dark alleys for dad on his way home to his fragrant wife.

            I gave you the link to the actual historical events, which are what interests me, not the novel (which was still a good read, although it’s not any bodice ripping that stays in my mind, but rather people burying their wives, husbands and children and their horrific suffering, as well as those tempted to cut and run. I suppose reviewers pay attention to what interests them.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyam

            The villagers quarantined themselves. They therefore didn’t spread plague further than their village. They didn’t spread their story far and wide either – they just got on with what they’d decided to do and were largely forgotten for a couple of centuries, except very locally.

            I hope you never stand to honour your service men and women, Tate, because by your reckoning honouring them means you’re basking in the reflected glory of their bravery and waving that peacock rainbow flag of virtue signalling.

            In the meanwhile, if I admire something I’m free to say so – far from reflecting any bravery back on me it shows up the difference between their bravery and my having never had to show any.

            But I’m STILL WAITING for you to tell me what they should have done. Let’s say you, your wife and family are in the next village. What should they have done?

            Christianity, in its best parts, is a projection of humanity. Having been invented in superstitious times when pretty much all people explained reality through deities, that humanity) (which included jealousies, fears and superstitions) was projected onto a deity, as had been done many times before in other parts of the world.

            It remains truly sad that you can’t celebrate human goodness where and when it arises. There’s enough of the opposite to keep you busy otherwise.

            People who call everything virtue signalling are sad, lost souls.

          • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 8:29 am #

            Not from the novel:

            “The history of the plague in the village began in 1665 when a flea-infested bundle of cloth arrived from London for the local tailor.[13] Within a week his assistant George Vicars was dead and more began dying in the household soon after.[14]

            “As the disease spread, the villagers turned for leadership to their rector, the Reverend William Mompesson, and the Puritan Minister Thomas Stanley. These introduced a number of precautions to slow the spread of the illness from May 1666. They included the arrangement that families were to bury their own dead and relocation of church services to the natural amphitheatre of Cucklett Delph, allowing villagers to separate themselves and so reducing the risk of infection. Perhaps the best-known decision was to quarantine the entire village to prevent further spread of the disease.

            “The plague ran its course over 14 months and one account states that it killed at least 260 villagers, with only 83 surviving out of a population of 350.[14] This figure has been challenged on a number of occasions with alternative figures of 430 survivors from a population of around 800 being given.[14] The church in Eyam has a record of 273 individuals who were victims of the plague.[15] Survival among those affected appeared random, as many who remained alive had had close contact with those who died but never caught the disease. For example, Elizabeth Hancock was uninfected despite burying six children and her husband in eight days (the graves are known as the Riley graves after the farm where they lived).[13] The unofficial village gravedigger, Marshall Howe, also survived despite handling many infected bodies.[14]

            “Plague Sunday has been celebrated in the village since the plague’s bicentenary in 1866 and now takes place in Cucklett Delph on the last Sunday in August. “

          • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 8:39 am #

            Celebrated, that is, by people who are less sick and twisted and can therefore take pleasure in drawing attention to the good that their fellow humans do, and thereby encouraging themselves and others to bring out the best in themselves. Long may people still care to celebrate such things rather than the Kardashians.

          • Tate July 10, 2019 at 9:10 am #

            1) Your first comment only referenced the novel.

            2) From the wikipedia reference provided later:

            After the loss of its industries in the later 20th century, the local economy now relies on the tourist trade and it is promoted as “the plague village”, in reference to how it chose to isolate itself after bubonic plague was discovered there, so as to prevent the infection spreading.

            3) So now the whole town is in on the act of virtue-signalling its goodness. And for commercial gain, as chance would have it, lol. How crass.

            4) You should move there. You’d fit right in.

            5) You don’t have to rationalize away your love of that fare of literature. Lots of the older ladies loves them theys ‘bodice-rippers.’

          • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 10:43 am #

            Tate

            Your first comment only referenced the novel”

            I said it was inspired by the events and the factual link was given in the same thread.My post was about the events and the people concerned, as was my value judgement about the virtue they showed, despite being ordinary, not at all saintly people.

            The town isn’t virtue signalling its goodness, except for twisted people like yourself. It’s celebrating the goodness of a bunch of very ordinary people in 1665. Sorry you’re having so much difficulty with this concept. The actions of the people of 1665/6 do not reflect in any way on the people who are interested in or admire what those people did for the surrounding villages and wider area, any more than people visiting Haworth in West Yorkshire can assume by mere geographical contact the writing abilities of the Brontës because they choose to go there out of historical or literary interest, or even because the town markets itself as Brontë country.

            People are drawn to goodness or such things wouldn’t interest them.

            You should move there. You’d fit right in.”

            Typical pointless Tate-ism.

            I’m not into bodice rippers in any way at all and that’s a sad attempt at defamation when you’ve run out of valid arguments, as was the comment above. I was interested in the historical and human aspects of the story – the book was passed on to me by my husband after he read it himself. He read it because he’d already read the author’s book on the lives of Middle Eastern women, Nine parts of desire – The Hidden World of Islamic Women, which is non-fiction.

            I don’t know why the goodness of these not-especially-good people upsets you so much. They’ve done everything you approve of. They’ve gone to their ministers for moral guidance, because doing what’s right is of interest to them, and they’ve agreed (which they didn’t have to – any one of them could have gone rogue) on the right thing to do in relation to the wider network of surrounding villages, which fall under your regime of ‘social networks’.

            What I find depressing is your a priori bad faith.

            That you claim explicitly that the minister was only interested in his own immortal soul just shows the moral paucity of your beliefs.

          • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 10:45 am #

            I won’t insult your intelligence by pointing out which paragraph there wasn’t meant to be in italics.

          • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 10:56 am #

            And do you know what, Tate? About a week ago you said to me something like ‘you can just ignore posts – that’s something you need to learn’ and that was regarding a post in which you’d insulted me.

            And here you are having created two long and totally unnecessary threads under two separate JHK posts just because you can’t take your own advice – and in this context regarding a post that was nothing to do with you in the first place except that you saw it as an opportunity to fling insults.

            Maybe next time take your own advice and move on past.

  30. Dumbedup July 8, 2019 at 2:43 pm #

    Poor Donald. A victim of circumstances. Meanwhile, only the Democrats are hiding misconduct, conflicts of interest, secret Russian connections, lawlessness and outright *ussy grabbing scandals.

    I don’t know why you even bother to attempt to hide your admiration.

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  31. 100th Avatar July 8, 2019 at 3:24 pm #

    The American political system is a passenger train.

    Instead of a caboose and an engine, it has 2 engines, pulling in opposite directions.

    Even 4 years, it tries to load up as many moneybags and dimwits to take us all on a ride.

    The more passengers for an engine, the higher the probability it gets to where it wants to go.

    The engines lure them in with free or cheap fares, no tolls or taxes, a free meal and sleeper car, a job on the train, or for the premium VIP fare: a chance to plot the route and sit by the engineer.

    The dimwits, and coach class are jettisoned, unneeded until 4 years time.

    Yet, surprisingly, for at least the first 6 months to a year, they all believe they reached somewhere new. Reality sets in. They haven’t. But in 3 years time they will even forget about that, their lives miserable as they are, bored as they are, and will shout and bustle and eagerly jump on board.. again.

    Ultimately, both engines lead to the same destination, the roundhouse.

    In 4 years it will emerge from the roundhouse, perhaps in a new direction, but whatever direction need be so as to return to the roundhouse. The train needs to pick up hordes of turnstile jumpers and their hijos to get back? So be it? The train needs to give away freebies? Done. The train needs to pick up the circus of bearded women and morality jugglers? Hop onboard! Felons? Why not! The train needs to blow up a few bridges and burn towns down? Your hawk ass has got it!

    Neither engine welcome a third, or fourth, because that would pull the train off the tracks, and well, as you guessed, the rail apparatus wasn’t made for that.

    And today, despite knowing of the dirty tricks used to sabotage an engine, the inability for the train to deliver what it promises, the decrepitness of the train itself, the landscape it travels through, it still lures on those passengers, because only the train knows what they don’t.

    They’re on for the ride, not a destination.

    • Ol' Scratch July 8, 2019 at 4:40 pm #

      They’re on for the ride, not a destination.

      Exactly!

  32. JohnAZ July 8, 2019 at 3:40 pm #

    Before the equal pay politics start

    Here are some numbers

    World Cup runs in four year cycles

    Last men’s finals 2018 in Russia

    Revenue in four years. 4 billion dollars

    Given to the teams 400 million. Or 7%

    2019 women’s 30 million to the teams

    2019 to 2023 cycle women’s

    Estimated revenue. 131 million

    Give to the teams 30 million. Or 22%.

    Estimated men’s Qatar 2022 cycle prize money 440 million

    The winning men’s team in 2018 was France got 38 million or .5% of revenue

    The winning US team this year gets 4 million or 3% of revenue

    Hmmm?

    Percentage of revenue wise the men need a raise.

    The women definitely need to drum up some more fans to get their revenue up.

    Politics plays no part of this. Bitch all you want, the dollars count!

    • JohnAZ July 8, 2019 at 3:43 pm #

      Source Forbes Magazine

    • 100th Avatar July 8, 2019 at 4:01 pm #

      How much has USMNT earned?

      They didn’t even make it to the WC!

      US Soccer has goals for teams:

      -qualify
      -win.

      Only 1 team has a proven track record (the USWNT)

      Only 1 brings prestige to the program.

      Only 1 team is respected.’

      Only 1 teams is marketable

      They deserve better compensation for meeting and exceeding goals.

      The suit is against US Soccer!!

    • KesaAnna July 8, 2019 at 9:28 pm #

      ” Politics plays no part of this. Bitch all you want, the dollars count! ”

      I very often find myself wishing that the math , and the dollars , counted for something.

      But they actually rarely seem to count for anything.

      For example ;

      In 1960 about 90% of the available jobs were exclusively available to just one sex.

      I suppose that isn’t news ?

      On the contrary , it seems to me that you never hear the end of that particular math , that particular discussion of dollars and cents .

      On the other hand , fully 60 years later , I’m still waiting to hear any substantive discussion of the fact that the other sex is roughly 50% of the population , and that 50% of the population entering the workforce en masse , inflating the labor pool by 50% , is very likely to turn out to be very bad news actually for a great many people of both sexes.

      Where ” rights ” ( ??? ) are concerned , math or money never really seems to matter , for either sex , but only feelings.

      ” The women definitely need to drum up some more fans to get their revenue up. ”

      They look like spoiled brats to me.

      Which is to say that perhaps they have too many fans , pandering unduly to them , already ?

      But then it sure seems to me that exalting spoiled brats is the default .

      And the default expectation that spoiling someone will most likely produce a good character.

      Sort of like ; serial monogamy , promiscuity , and adultery was supposed , somehow , NOT to result in Gay Pride parades .

      ???

      Again , I see very little of dollars and cents in any of it , but rather a lot of feelings.

      • KesaAnna July 8, 2019 at 9:47 pm #

        Speaking of spoiled brats —-

        Presumably I’m supposed to get my panties in a twist over some girls who CAN AFFORD to jet around the world merely to play a ball game .

        :/

      • Exscotticus July 9, 2019 at 12:57 pm #

        >>> In 1960 about 90% of the available jobs were exclusively available to just one sex.

        Yes but that was before—according to Dems—men could give birth. So you’re not counting that “systemic” and “structural” and “institutional” discrimination against men.

  33. sprezzatura July 8, 2019 at 4:05 pm #

    Sigh… Jim used to be more entertaining…

    • BackRowHeckler July 8, 2019 at 5:44 pm #

      You mean he’s not down with the resistance?

      • Robert White July 8, 2019 at 9:10 pm #

        I thought JHK was the resistance?

        RW

    • benr July 9, 2019 at 8:35 am #

      Yes often speaking truth to people who are not disposed to hearing it when it goes against their ingrained belief system is seen as either boring or offensive.

      Keep up the good work Mr. Kunstler write about what ever your heart tells you to.

  34. malthuss July 8, 2019 at 4:14 pm #

    MICHAEL is at it again,

    In Michelle’s view, it wasn’t representative of the country:

    “That day was very emotional, and then to … sit at that inauguration, and to look around at a crowd that was not reflective of the country — it was just such the opposite — and during Barack’s inauguration, we made sure that the crowd looked like all of America, having the Tuskegee airmen, having civil rights folks, having folks who had marched — you could look out at his crowd and you could see America. All of it.”

    She was one of just a few non-whites:

    “And I had to sit in that audience, one of a handful of people of color, and then listen to that speech, and all that I had … held on to for eight years, watching my husband get raked over the coals, feeling like we had to do everything perfectly — no scandal … It was a lot emotionally.”

    • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 4:14 pm #

      her words—

      all of America, having the Tuskegee airmen, having civil rights folks, having folks who had marched…[end]

      so all of America is Blacks????

      • BackRowHeckler July 8, 2019 at 5:40 pm #

        Hey Malt, what gives in LA?

        Doing a little research to continue my Adam 12 series.

        In Newport Beach/Costa Mesa, last week …

        Woman beaten to death on street in middle of the afternoon while walking to elderly mothers house, by homeless man.

        Homeless man douses driver in gasoline, sets fire to welfare worker, who burns to death.

        County prosecuter beaten senseless on beach while jogging. In critical care, might survive.

        Woman who runs foundation to help children of the incarcerated, and hockey pro boyfriend, gunned down by black bodybuilder during burglary. 2 dead.

        That’s just off the top of my head. Has western civ evaporated in LA county, too?

        Brh

        • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 6:40 pm #

          whats adam 12?

          USA is ruined. I wish I owned some hills, way out in the country.

          • Robert White July 8, 2019 at 7:37 pm #

            Adam 12 was what we all grew up on whilst we were still impressionable youth that ‘the man’ wanted to indoctrinate to the Jack Webb style of policing that impressed the CIA in the 50s post-Leave-it-to-Beaver illusory existence of yesteryear before Vietnam woke us all up to the man & his ways and we tuned in turned on and dropped out of the fan club of Mickey Mouse & joined the Yippies in Chicago.

            Adam 12 was also anti-drug culture too, man.

            No marijuana for Officer Malloy!

            RW

          • hmuller July 9, 2019 at 12:06 am #

            Oh yes, Jack Webb was so white, he could dance without shaking his ass. Not that Sergeant Friday ever found a reason to dance.

          • Tate July 9, 2019 at 4:13 pm #

            This was whitemess, BRH, Do you even remembe what is was?

          • Tate July 9, 2019 at 9:40 pm #

            Okay, I have to object to this, JHK. I didn’t write the previous post. Changing a word in one of my posts because my original in your words “lacks decorum, reflects poorly on the whole blog” is one thing. But introducing a post that I didn’t write in its entirety is another.

      • Janos Skorenzy July 8, 2019 at 5:49 pm #

        She still in recovery from the time a little old White lady asked her to reach something for her in the market.

  35. libertysghost July 8, 2019 at 4:26 pm #

    Given his topic this week, and his conclusion…I’m surprised Jim didn’t use the Cali quakes and the “pent up energy of tectonic plates yearning to give way” as a metaphor for his final sentence:

    “…but whether the USA can even remain intact when these tensions give way.”

    To a similar end, how did he miss adding a few lines from the song his title theme emulates…seems a nice caricature of the existence and nature of the “average American” today unfortunately:

    I bet there’s rich folks eatin’
    In a fancy dinin’ car
    They’re probably drinkin’ coffee
    And smokin’ big cigars
    Well, I know I had it comin’
    I know I can’t be free
    But those people keep a-movin’
    And that’s what tortures me

    We get the “leaders” we deserve, and while we wish they would have been as “righteous” as promised when sold to us by our messaging overlords over the last century or so, they most certainly haven’t been. And they seem little concerned with feigning humility or even patronizing the lot of us pretending we matter or that they care…even just a little bit…what we think or want the world to become. Yet they “keep a-movin”, torturing us all.

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  36. BackRowHeckler July 8, 2019 at 5:28 pm #

    Cheer up!

    Woman’s soccer team to march in the ‘Canyon of Heroes’, in lower Manhattan.

    These gals look more masculine than the weanies on the mens team.

    Get ready for another ‘Pride’ march.

    Brh

  37. BackRowHeckler July 8, 2019 at 6:24 pm #

    Hey, Billionaire Tom Steyer jumping into Pres race (on the Dem side)

    Man’s got money to burn, and he hates President Trump more than anybody.

    Steyer has picked up the mantle of ‘Mr. Global Warming’, so there’s 50 votes right there.

    Brh

    • Robert White July 8, 2019 at 7:21 pm #

      At least the fifty votes he has automatically will outnumber attendees at The Duck’s first inaugural, eh.

      Advanced polling gave the last electoral race to HRC and she lost bigly yuuuge to buffooneryBOY & the Goldman Sachs Swamp Creatures from Hell that surround him in profligate spendthrift drunken sailor shenanigans run amok.

      President Steyer has the stamina that HRC could not muster.

      RW

      • hmuller July 9, 2019 at 5:09 pm #

        Did Steyer apologize for all those lies and slanders he told about Trump and Russian collusion? I suspect not. So we know he is without integrity and honor – basically just a throbbing pustule of hate and derangement syndrome.

  38. BackRowHeckler July 8, 2019 at 6:32 pm #

    I’m pulling for an independent Steyer/ guy who runs Starbucks, ticket.

    Free coffee, free use of rest rooms in the White House, outlaw fossil fuels, put Trump in the slammer, every sing Kumbaya together, anotger hands across America campaign, diversity training, open borders, payoffs of student loans, free sh#t everybody. Thats the platform.

    Brh

  39. Robert White July 8, 2019 at 6:46 pm #

    One cannot neglect to mention the historical significance of Tricky Dick closing the gold window in 1971 and forcing all countries to defer to USD petrodollar supremacy if they wanted oil to heat their homes in winter. The Nixon runaway freight train went off the rails when the Keynesians took over and bet the farm on deficit spending which necessitated the evolution of the dark pool USD derivatives universe which is now unmanageable at an estimated $1.9 quadrillion in potential counterparty conflict for the future.

    Orange Jesus is sitting on financial debt & deficit ether that is soon to dissipate into the rarefied thin air whence it came. And it was Nixon that paved the way to Hell in a hand basket not JFK who was assassinated whilst attempting to prevent the central banking largesse that brought us to this point.

    The Clinton’s are immoral I agree, but Orange Jesus is too.

    RW

  40. Pucker July 8, 2019 at 6:47 pm #

    Speaking of Identity Politics…

    Why did Siskell & Ebert give the movie “Mandingo” two thumbs down? Somebody told me that US TV shows and commercials are now replete with inter-racial couples? What gives?

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    • benr July 9, 2019 at 8:45 am #

      I was just commenting to my wife about this strange advertising ploy.
      It’s still odd to see some super cute little white girl with a thuggish looking gangbanger but the reverse is also happening a Michelle Obama black lady with a skinny little white kid.
      This is not organic but contrived it almost makes the ravings of some about the forced disappearing of ol’ YT look real.

      • SoftStarLight July 10, 2019 at 1:31 am #

        That’s correct. It seems that most advertising now is contrived for the specific purpose of normalizing and encouraging race mixing. Why? Remember the whole abolish Whiteness thing? Well here you go. This example is just one means to an end among many. And this method is great from the perspective of those in charge in that the intended victims voluntarily participate in their own demise.

  41. BuckP July 8, 2019 at 6:49 pm #

    Last Friday, July 5, here in Vegas, I was lounging on the couch watching the Rockies- Dbacks game when it started shaking back and forth. Initially, fearing that an unseen poltergeist was on the loose, I was relieved to see the dining room light fixture swaying, and realized it was an earthquake. The epicenter was 150 miles away in Ridgecrest, CA and the quake measured 7.1. with the tremor lasting over thirty seconds. A bit unnerving to say the least

    The moral of the story being that Mother Nature is still in charge, always has been and always will be. Her rules and laws can’t be ignored without peril. For instance Newton’s Third Law of Motion: for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. In otherwords, what goes up has to go down. This law applies to economics as well. At some point, something is going to give just like seismic faults volcanoes, economic expansions.

    Our political class has no clue how to solve the various problems inherent to our way of life. Most are lawyers, who know how to argue but…Like loyalist soldiers playing poker with hyper-inflated, stolen, currency which will soon to be rendered worthless when the rebels usurp control over their banana republic, they are deterined to enrich themselves before it is too late. How do we recover from the $7 trillion wasted in Bush’s illegal wars, $29 trillion wasted in Obama’s TBTF bank bailout and $21+ trillion in dark money passed through DOD? The politicos know the gig is up. The future of America has been sacrificed for the creature comforts of today. We are a captive state under the thumb of the globalists.

    Gnashing our teeth over what politicos or central bankers promise, say or do is as useless as thinking mortal man can stop a volcanic eruption, an earthquake,an ice age or solar flare (or the failure of a fiat world reserve currency).

    • BackRowHeckler July 8, 2019 at 6:59 pm #

      The trouble with earthquakes, you can’t blame them on anybody.

      Brh

      • Robert White July 8, 2019 at 7:42 pm #

        except the fracking for natural gas industry, eh?

        RW

        • BackRowHeckler July 8, 2019 at 7:58 pm #

          I thought fracking was banned in Cal?

    • Robert White July 8, 2019 at 7:04 pm #

      If you are going to gnash your teeth you would be well advised to gird your loins as well. Girding loins always goes with gnashing of teeth as they are symbiotic behaviours that always go together like peanut butter & jelly sandwiches or a blt on toast.

      P.S. You forgot the undeclared financial liabilities on the cursory list.

      RW

      • BuckP July 8, 2019 at 7:34 pm #

        A trillion here, a trillion there, pretty soon….
        I wonder what Ol’Everett would think about today’s fiscal Krakatoa!

        • Tate July 8, 2019 at 8:03 pm #

          You mean Everett Dirksen? When they don’t remember Bob Dylan (or Marley), how are they going to remember Everett Dirksen?

          • Robert White July 8, 2019 at 9:36 pm #

            I remember Mr. Zimmerman well as I have seen him in concert and the first album I ever bought was his live double album. I remember Marley too, but Everett Dirksen is one I have to look up on Wikipedia.

            Highway 61 was always my favorite. Johnny Winter did a great rendition of it on And Live too.

            I Remote Viewed old Zimmerman once getting picked up by a police constable for lurking in a US neighbourhood looking at middle class houses. The police woman picked him up and he had no ID so she drove him to where he said the band tour bus was and she knocked on the tour bus door to be greeted by staff that identified the man in police custody as good old Robert Zimmerman posing as himself.

            I later managed to read the news account of that incident. And old Zimmerman is a real bard of bards formally trained in the beat generation movement.

            RW

          • BackRowHeckler July 8, 2019 at 10:09 pm #

            Dylan closing in on 80 and still doing concerts, the hardest working man in show business, until a few years ago 80 dates a year.

            Brh

          • Tate July 9, 2019 at 1:20 am #

            On Jeopardy a few nights ago they showed a photo of Mick Jagger in his prime but none of the contestants could identify him.

  42. toktomi July 8, 2019 at 6:50 pm #

    Uh-oh.

    Who done it? Who has caused a seer to awaken and yawn?

    This second Monday of the first “hot” month of the year, 2019 sees James throwing down the gauntlet on teotwawki. No paddy cakes and frilly takes on the “condition my condition was in”.

    This is grid down, my friends. Is anyone paying attention or is the local troupe of characters still stuck in perverse gear of mutual masturbation, ignorant of the imminent box cars, showers, and ovens?

    I luuuuv it! Cuz I been starin’ at it so long, the fear feels no worse than kitty tongues – all over my body.

    ~toktomi~

    • toktomi July 8, 2019 at 7:00 pm #

      Yup, a quick perusal, and apparently it’s same ol’ lame ‘tard lines.

      Where’s what’s-her-name? The lady[?] character got intellect and fresh outlook. Musta got either no proper upbringin’ or a real education of privilege.

      OK, scat. Nobody wanna…

      ~toktomi~

      …see me friday
      …if yer lucky

      • SoftStarLight July 10, 2019 at 1:51 am #

        Your posts are interesting for what its worth. So are you saying you have come to terms with imminent boxcars, showers and ovens? A friend of mine once told me to ponder death at least three times a day. It actually does seem to keep things in perspective you know. So just out of curiosity, are these the FEMA internment camps you are thinking about? Seems like lots of work and logistics to transport and “process” so many people when for instance spraying poisons in the air and/or on food could do the same job but without all of the overhead so to speak.

  43. Pucker July 8, 2019 at 6:56 pm #

    I wonder how many people know that Barack Obama’s Kenyan ancestors were vicious African slave traders? Ironically, people voted for him…Obamacare….

    Barak Hussein Obama:

    “Arab was a misnomer; Afro-Arab would have been more accurate. Although their captives often ended up in the Arab world, the traders on the African mainland were largely Swahili-speaking Africans from territory that today is Kenya and Tanzania. Many had adopted Arab dress and Islam, but only some of them were of even partly Arab descent. Nonetheless, from Edinburgh to Rome, indignant books and speeches and sermons denounced the vicious “Arab” slavers—“.

    Adam Hochschild
    King Leopold’s Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror, and Heroism in Colonial Africa

    • toktomi July 8, 2019 at 7:02 pm #

      @Pucker

      I wonder how many people would even give a fuck. It’s hard to imagine how is pertains to finding something to eat next week.

      blah, blah, blah, blah

      • Pucker July 8, 2019 at 7:18 pm #

        Americans watch on average 7 hours of TV a day, so they largely get their Reality from TV. Also, the high flicker rate of the TV screen and the Internet destroys the viewer’s ability to concentrate more than 5 seconds which eviscerates the subject’s ability to read and to think, so that they become like one-eyed Cyclops who can’t focus. America is the “Land of the Cyclops”….

        [5 seconds is up…Cut to Scene…]

        Did you remember the scene in “Roots” in which young Kunta Kinte was out alone in the forest trying to find a hollow log to make a drum for his kid brother, Al Scharpton, when the vicious Obama kidnapped Kunta Kinte and sold him to Ed Asher?

        I think that the Homosexual, Robert Read, also starred in “Roots”, albeit I don’t recall any Homosexual, Lesbian, or transgender scenes in the TV drama series. Except for the scene in which Chuck Connors (The Rifleman) rapes Kizzy who later gives birth to the cockfighter “Chicken George”, the TV series was fairly “Plain Vanilla”, which again is ironic since the objective was “Chocolate”.

        • BackRowHeckler July 8, 2019 at 7:48 pm #

          TV is so 20th century,

          The computer screen and the cell phone is where the action is now.

          Brh

      • benr July 9, 2019 at 8:48 am #

        It matters very much when the Democrats are squealing about reparations for Slavery. The emperor would have received fewer of the precious black votes had people known his ancestry line.

    • GreenAlba July 9, 2019 at 7:31 am #

      Pucker

      “I wonder how many people know that Barack Obama’s Kenyan ancestors were vicious African slave traders? Ironically, people voted for him…Obamacare….”

      Yes, and my ancestors seem to have been Vikings who murdered, raped and pillaged their way through the country where I now live and spatchcocked the murdered monks in places like Lindisfarne. And yet Social Services didn’t take away my children.

      It quite boggles the mind.

      • Tate July 9, 2019 at 4:24 pm #

        That’s because your mind is set to be boggled.

        • Tate July 9, 2019 at 9:51 pm #

          And HERE’S A THIRD POST WHICH I HAVE NOT WRITTEN.

          JHK, what assurance do we have that any of this is real if we encounter comments that we know are not ours? Even if we might have voiced them? Is that your aim, to undermine the credibility of the comments?

          • hmuller July 10, 2019 at 5:21 pm #

            Tate,
            Maybe you have multiple personalities and don’t know it. LOL

          • Tate July 11, 2019 at 2:15 am #

            muller,

            You’ll know it when I start spewing the poz, lol.

      • Epicur July 9, 2019 at 7:06 pm #

        I wonder how many had to or needed to look up “spatchcocked”? I didn’t but only because my wife asked me to spatchcock a chicken last year.

        • GreenAlba July 9, 2019 at 7:39 pm #

          I’m seeing it rubbed with harissa under the skin and roasted on a bed of chickpeas – an Epicurean delight. 🙂

  44. trypillian July 8, 2019 at 7:30 pm #

    The Bank for International Settlements is actually controlling 60 of the worlds central banks, unbeknownst to the 99%.
    The Federal Reserve is not the fixer but rather being played by the Overlords in Basel Switzerland. The long emergency will blow up in your collective faces when the BIS illusion of world monetary stability is disclosed. The world financial cabals will resemble swiss cheese when all hell breaks loose.

    • Pucker July 8, 2019 at 7:37 pm #

      COOL….

    • Robert White July 8, 2019 at 9:48 pm #

      Washington D.C. Council of Thirty rule over BIS & IMF as they are the leading Central Bankers of the world and not the BIS bureaucrats in Switzerland. Americans en masse must realize that the Washington D.C. Council of Thirty is located on US soil and not European soil. The Oligopolists reside in D.C..

      RW

  45. FincaInTheMountains July 8, 2019 at 7:40 pm #

    Losharik and the Sistine Chapel, which in fact no longer exists

    That the fire on Losharik had a geopolitical consequence is already a fact, not an assumption, as well as the fact that immediately after the fire, the Russian president simultaneously with the US Vice President canceled his schedule.

    And I am sure that the President of the United States also canceled his schedule after this fire, they simply did not have time to inform about this, as something happened and the crisis was somehow resolved.

    I even know the exact time when it happened – at 7:30 Moscow time and at half past twelve New York, on July 3, when they announced that the parade on July 4 in Washington would take place.

    And before that, I read in the American forums how they discuss the number of Ohio-class submarines with which communication has been lost and listened to how the heavy Russian bombers fly over Eastern Ukraine, and when they announced that Putin would go to Rome to meet the Pope I just went to bed and slept for the first time in 5 years for 8 hours in a row.

    Since then, I constantly recall Pope John Paul II and think about the unique circumstances under which Jorge Mario Bergoglio in 2013 became Pope Francis (such as, for example, the resignation of the previous Pope), as well as how Jorge Mario Bergoglio did not become Pope in 2005.

    And the fact that Putin, after such an event, still went to Rome, shows not only the desire to hide the significance of this fire, but also the desire to show the importance of the Pope in every way in a crisis situation of unprecedented significance.

    I will even allow myself to fantasize for the last time that Losharik, possessing the ability to secretly set mines invented by the great physicist and democrat Andrei Dmitrievich Sakharov near the island of La Palma at a depth of more than 5 km, is an ideal retaliation weapon, since the mega-tsunami after explosion of such mine will wash away all of Western Europe and the entire US East Coast right up to Philadelphia.

    And the fact that the American media categorically do not want to discuss this possibility, but speak in connection with Losharik only about Internet cables through which they download porn, suggests that the threat to porn from Losharik does not exist.

    And the captains of the first rank and civilian gathered most likely on Losharik for a report to the Supreme Commander on the successful completion of tests of something such that the Barents Sea clearly has no relation to, since the Barents Sea is pretty shallow and suitable only for a report from under the water to the Supreme Commander about the successful completion of testing something terribly deep.

    And Pope Francis is just the person with whom you can discuss all these circumstances, without fear that he will go into hysteria about this, and then he will leak everything to the press.

    I really do not know how appropriate in these circumstances Konchalovsky’s movie “Sin” about the creator of the Vatican, which inspired Alexander Pushkin to write “Genius and villainy are two incompatible things.”

    The film tells about how the Sistine Chapel was created, but the fact of the matter is that Michelangelo Buonarroti as a brilliant artist no longer exists, and it seems that Pope Francis have never seen Sistine Chapel.

    But the forum member, whom I described in a previous post, had already watched this film by Konchalovsky and, knowing quite a lot about Ohio class submarines, knew what he said, claiming that it was in this film that one could find a solution to the mystery of Losharik.

    And sometimes it seems to me that the Sistine chapel was washed off by the same people who set on fire to Losharik.

    Part of Sistine Chapel before and after the “restoration”:

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/53/Jesse_spandrel_beforeandafter.jpg/800px-Jesse_spandrel_beforeandafter.jpg

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  46. Pucker July 8, 2019 at 7:48 pm #

    They’ve arrested Jeffrey Epstein…which has literally unleashed angry violent Silent Howls….

    “At night…when the bars close down…
    Brandy walks through a silent town…”

    After a couple of drinks, Bundy’s Wolf personality would take control driven by fierce sexual lust. When making love to his victims Bundy would wear a mask and he would literally bite them ripping and tearing their flesh and tasting their blood.

    They think that Ted Bundy’s dad was an itinerant “Sailor” just passing through town on shore leave.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VVzsQ-RiT9U

  47. BackRowHeckler July 8, 2019 at 7:53 pm #

    Duetch Bank is getting wobbly.

    Might be the weak link in the whole international system.

    This whole shebang could go down.

    Brh

    • FincaInTheMountains July 8, 2019 at 8:05 pm #

      How come you guys are always worried about the wrong things?

      Is it the green lenses of your mandatory-to-wear glasses issued by the Dulles plan?

    • malthuss July 8, 2019 at 8:15 pm #

      40? trillion in derivatives.

      and you didnt spell Dbank right.

      • BackRowHeckler July 8, 2019 at 8:21 pm #

        I dont spell a lot of words right.

        Even Q has given up on me.

    • malthuss July 9, 2019 at 12:58 am #

      here my deer

      https://wnep.com/2019/07/08/family-brawls-at-disneyland-as-children-watch/

      • BackRowHeckler July 9, 2019 at 6:42 am #

        It all happened in toon town.

        • malthuss July 9, 2019 at 7:17 am #

          coon town

      • Ol' Scratch July 9, 2019 at 10:37 am #

        LOL! All just part of the show, right? That was some impressive girth on the woman getting bitch slapped there. She actually had to work to get that much lard on such a small frame! Gotta love ni**ers acting out in public, especially an in-house family brawl like this.

  48. FincaInTheMountains July 8, 2019 at 8:03 pm #

    Stricken Russian Nuke Sub Crew Prevented ‘Planetary Catastrophe’

    Well, this time it is not me sitting in a boardroom and stroking a white cat speaking, it’s Bloomberg:

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/stricken-russian-nuke-sub-crew-prevented-planetary-catastrophe/ar-AAE1Fn5

    • BackRowHeckler July 8, 2019 at 8:19 pm #

      Is your govt still awarding ‘Heroes of the Soviet Union’ medals?

      Or an equivalent?

      Give each of the crew one. They deserve it.

      Brh

      • FincaInTheMountains July 8, 2019 at 8:45 pm #

        Now the call the medal “The Hero of Russia” – pretty much the same gold star.

      • stelmosfire July 9, 2019 at 2:04 pm #

        I haven’t heard much about the tragedy on the sub. They gave all so that others might survive. I’ve seen the “elephant’ many times in my career ( not in wartime but in fighting the red devil) and believe me the human spirit is extraordinary. I’ve gotten a few accolades over the years but they really don’t mean much to me.

  49. malthuss July 8, 2019 at 8:15 pm #

    Israeli Government Minister Takes Credit for 27 US States Passing Anti-BDS Laws

    July 8, 2019 Winter Watch

    By Philip Wiess | 2 July 2019 MONDOWIESS — A leading Israeli government minister takes credit for 27 U.S. states passing laws aimed at curbing citizens’ advocacy for BDS, the boycott, divestment and sanctions campaign targeting […]

  50. FincaInTheMountains July 8, 2019 at 8:43 pm #

    Ha, ha, ha!!!

    Did you see that?!!?

    CNN just now during the Anderson Cooper 360 live stream had a headline for at least three minutes!!!:

    Trump one time pal Clinton charged in child trafficking federal crime.

    Then they noticed and put a different headline:

    Trump & Clinton one time pal charged in child trafficking federal crime.

    Somebody’s sending a clear message using enemy’s air time!

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  51. JohnAZ July 8, 2019 at 8:50 pm #

    Kamala Harris wants to put 100 billion dollars into free home ownership for Blacks.

    Is she so uninformed or just plain stupid?

    High risk home ownership is what caused 2008!

    Oh my. This person is running for President.

    Boy, I’ll bet the home builders are chomping at the bit.

    But I’ll bet the financial gurus that remember 2008 are scared of this nut.

    • James Hansen July 8, 2019 at 9:17 pm #

      Source?

    • James Hansen July 8, 2019 at 9:30 pm #

      Never mind, I looked it up, she just shot herself in the foot.

      • benr July 9, 2019 at 8:51 am #

        Lets hope so she is a terrible choice.
        My Democrat choice so far is Tulsi wouldn’t vote for her but she is the least crazy of the current crop of Democrats.

    • Exscotticus July 9, 2019 at 10:22 am #

      Harris played the race card right out of the starting gate. It’s all Dems know how to do. And here we see it again. Her plan could have just as easily included poor people of all colors—still a terrible idea but at least it wouldn’t have been overtly racist in nature. But I guess she figures Trump’s got poor whites locked down, so why even bother? She needs her black bona fides.

  52. Pucker July 8, 2019 at 8:54 pm #

    Image: An anxious insomniac bloke in his pajamas is in his study at midnight. It’s raining outside. The wind is howling. He’s worried about this young teenage daughter who is away on a school field trip. There’s a flash of lightening and a crack of thunder. The bloke catches a fleeting glimpse of Bill Clinton in the window.

    • Tate July 9, 2019 at 2:26 am #

      Is Bill Clinton really there or is this just a mental image of Bill Clinton in the window? This is key because if it’s a mental image of Bill, that’s understandable as a psychological projection of his worries concerning his teenage daughter. If Bill Clinton is actually there staring in his window, however, that’s something else entirely.

  53. Luhrenloup July 8, 2019 at 9:01 pm #

    What a sad bunch they all are.

  54. Pucker July 8, 2019 at 9:37 pm #

    Reality TV Psycho-Thriller….

    Image: A bloke wakes up in a hospital alone at midnight beat up and bruised after a bad car accident. He’s groggy from some horrible mind numbing Purdue Pharma OxyContin concoction that the frigid, Feminist witch nurse Ratched gave him. He flips on the TV to try to get some information and to figure out where he is. Rachel Maddow is on TV talking about Trump and Putin shutting down the power grid in South Dakota, concentration camps on the Mexican border, and a universal human right to Transgender abortions.

  55. KesaAnna July 8, 2019 at 10:12 pm #

    ” Hmmm?

    Sorta like China, and Russia, and the ME over and over, and Europe over the centuries.

    Let alone the recent genocide of central Africa and the slave trading practices of the African princes of three centuries ago.

    Blaming the USA for all the faults of the human race is a cop out. ”

    Then we agree ?

    I care little , to be honest , about the crimes and misdemeanors of this race , culture , religion , or state .

    What race , culture , religion , or state has not done the same or equivalent , and will not predictably go right on doing so in future too ?

    I consistently find , though , that when I ask Americans WHAT , EXACTLY , it is that they love , it turns out that the United States of America is the enemy of what they love , and not by accident either.

    OR —

    the United States of America HAS given them exactly what they wanted .

    THEY are complaining bitterly about GETTING exactly what THEY WANTED.

    It all irks the shit out of me for some reason.

    Is it too much to ask that you make up your fucking mind ?

    I guess so.

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    • Walter B July 8, 2019 at 10:21 pm #

      A very interesting and intriguing statement KA. Care to extrapolate?

    • Walter B July 8, 2019 at 10:37 pm #

      Oh and BTW, do Americans really even have any clue as to what they want? Because I was always under the impression that far too many of them are simply told what they want and would not even know if they ever got what they thought they wanted in the first place.

      • Tate July 9, 2019 at 2:20 am #

        Well, for example, Walter, look at how many of those sad, confused people are now seeking gender reassignment surgery. That is a manufactured need if there ever was one.

        • capt spaulding July 9, 2019 at 7:49 am #

          Yup, the dick factories are workin’ overtime, & still can’t keep up.

        • Walter B July 9, 2019 at 12:58 pm #

          Unless you are a second rate male athlete looking to step up to the top level by switching side, I cannot see any reason for going that route and I certainly do not want to pay for their choice out of my insurance. But your point is well made.

    • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 3:08 am #

      Yes, all races, cultures, religions, and states can, have, and will commit acts of violence and agression to at the very least maintain their respective turfs. And many are actually seeking to expand their territory, power, numbers, etc. In such a competitive world those who cannot maintain their ground will quickly loose it. And sadly in America, there are so many people who have become so disconnected from reality that they have been able to forget that life is a constant state of war and that you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

  56. Pucker July 9, 2019 at 12:33 am #

    Did you know that the Transgenders have their own Flag? I always thought that a flag denoted a political entity or groups claiming sovereignty over specific territory?

    Transgender people have a gender identity or gender expression that differs from their assigned sex.[1][2][3] Some transgender people who desire medical assistance to transitionfrom one sex to another identify as transsexual.[4][5] Transgender – often shortened as trans – is also an umbrella term: in addition to including people whose gender identity is the opposite of their assigned sex (trans men and trans women), it may include people who are not exclusively masculine or feminine (people who are non-binary or genderqueer, including bigender, pangender, genderfluid, or agender).[2][6][7] Other definitions of transgender also include people who belong to a third gender, or else conceptualize transgender people as a third gender.[8][9] The term transgender may be defined very broadly to include cross-dressers.[10]

    Being transgender is independent of sexual orientation:[11] transgender people may identify as heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, asexual, or may decline to label their sexual orientation. The term transgender is also distinguished from intersex, a term that describes people born with physical sex characteristics “that do not fit typical binary notions of male or female bodies”.[12] The opposite of transgender is cisgender, which describes persons whose gender identity or expression matches their assigned sex.[13]

    The degree to which individuals feel genuine, authentic, and comfortable within their external appearance and accept their genuine identity has been called transgender congruence.[14]Many transgender people experience gender dysphoria, and some seek medical treatments such as hormone replacement therapy, sex reassignment surgery, or psychotherapy.[15]Not all transgender people desire these treatments, and some cannot undergo them for financial or medical reasons.[15][16]

    Many transgender people face discrimination in the workplace[17] and in accessing public accommodations,[18] and healthcare.[19] In many places they are not legally protected from discrimination.[20]

    • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 2:46 am #

      No visual?! You know their flag is kinda boring. I was thinking it was going to at least be colorful and maybe sparkly.

      https://www.towleroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/2000px-Transgender_Pride_flag.png

      • Pucker July 9, 2019 at 3:22 am #

        The Transgender flag is boring, but in a psychotic sort of way. The LGTBQ lurid Pride flag is nutty too.

        • BackRowHeckler July 9, 2019 at 7:50 am #

          Its the only flag the MSM really respects. Anderson Cooper and Don Lemon stand by it. Is there such a thing as an LBGQT official salute?

          Covering the ‘Pride’ parades last month, they were practically on bended knee when the rainbow flag passed the reviewing stand, about a half dozen 400 lb drag queens gyrating around it on the star float.

          Maybe at some point the Pride flag can replace the Stars and Stripes as our national symbol. We might have to wait for Pedro Buttplug to get elected Pres tho.

          Brh

          • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 1:39 pm #

            I think its our unofficial but official flag anyway. You know we hinge our foreign aid contributions on the recipients’ complete and utter capitulation to the Queer agenda? Yes. Instead of Stars and Stripes we can call it Stars and Sodomites. Isn’t that just something we can all feel Pride in?

      • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2019 at 5:00 am #

        Yeah, just washed out. No Reality left. This is what’s left after the Langoliers have eaten their fill.

        • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 1:46 pm #

          Hey, maybe that is that strange noise I keep hearing all the time. The Langoliers are gobbling up the entire world, not just the past! With their appetite there won’t be a blade of grass or grain of sand left! And you know they don’t want us to be able to cross the rift either.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2019 at 2:02 pm #

            I’m so happy you know the reference. I can’t think of a better way to spending an evening than watching horror movies with you.

          • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 3:24 pm #

            🙂

            That sounds like a lot of fun!

  57. SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 2:28 am #

    Thank you for venting on our behalf Mr. K. I hope some of the slippery, soulless, swindlers who slither through the halls of power and money in this disenchanted land read your post. Better yet, I hope some of their loudest and most annoying weathercocks, ever eager to twist to the latest and greatest winds of PC idiocy, would also read your post and really, truly take it to heart….I know….A blizzard is more likely in Miami tomorrow than the Elites/Thinking Class ever actually owning up to their culpability in systematically dismantling our economy and culture. But no matter what they do at this point, the centrifugal forces unleashed by all of that bad faith, all of those misdeeds, and all of those condescending lectures have done so much corrosive damage to our national discourse and politics that the whole house of cards could easily tumble down within a year. And it doesn’t look like either or any party on the scene can or wants to do anything about it.

  58. Pucker July 9, 2019 at 3:38 am #

    They’re furious that Jeffrey Epstein was grabbed. They’ll lash out now. You can literally feel it. Like electricity…. A loud violent howl and Call-to-Arms…. Something has happened…. Gnashing of Teeth….A loud Rip in the fabric…Earthquake…Resurrection….Blood….

    • K-Dog July 9, 2019 at 10:40 am #

      You can bust him out when you bust out Cosby.

    • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 1:35 pm #

      You’re right Puck! Bill Clinton’s team has issued a statement and one of their lawyers joined the prosecution team. You can guarantee they are going to do everything in their power to shut it all down or find a way to narrow any and all blame (they’ll make it all up whole cloth if need be) to only Trump or maybe Trump and some other little peons on the right side of the spectrum if they can find any so they can turn this into just another political hit job. I am scared Justice will once again not be served. Sigh!!!!!!!!!!!

  59. FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2019 at 8:12 am #

    They’re furious that Jeffrey Epstein was grabbed

    The Holy Scripture says about traitors it is better for them if they had never been born

    • benr July 9, 2019 at 8:56 am #

      Such is the reason the DEMOCRATS and leftist power brokers hate Trump he was a Democrat!

      • FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2019 at 9:38 am #

        By traitors I mean rotten to the bone-marrow vultures that for 30 years have seized power in the United States, and who are ready to destroy their own country and their own people.

        And it ain’t Trump.

        • K-Dog July 9, 2019 at 10:31 am #

          In the book of Trump crossing boundaries is the measure of a man.

        • benr July 9, 2019 at 10:34 am #

          You could see it in Trumps demeanor at the 4th of July festivities he was close to tears as he spoke.
          Unlike his former DEMS he actually likes his country which as far as they are concerned is yet another betrayal.

          • James Hansen July 9, 2019 at 10:43 am #

            He might like the U.S. but he loves Israel otherwise he would not be going crazy over Iran. He is damaging the U.S. to make Israel happy. Is that treason?

          • benr July 9, 2019 at 10:58 am #

            @james hanson

            I don’t know is it treason to like Iran more than Israel and more importantly if an American America?
            Seems you worry more about Iran than America or our collective pal Israel.

          • K-Dog July 9, 2019 at 11:26 am #

            Dude it was raining. He was behind plastic. Those were not tears. It was rain. Se what you want to see but it takes more than a hand on a chest to fool me. Everything he does shows he has no regard for America.

          • James Hansen July 9, 2019 at 11:34 am #

            That statement shows you do not have a clue about international politics. Trump is alienating a good part of the world to appease Israel and the result is many countries are working hard as hell to get away from the dollar.

            If we lose the reserve currency we will be living in a third world country and Israel could not care less.

            This is a political site, not a knitting site, you should get more informed so you do not look so foolish.

          • benr July 9, 2019 at 11:39 am #

            @KDOG
            Yep we see what we want to see and often what the media tells us to see.
            You suffer the same pains we all do in seeing reality or the crafted nonsense they want you to see.
            Are YOU PRECIENT if not then you are no better than anyone else in the context of seeing into other peoples souls.
            Great you don’t like Trump good for you I’m sure he would dislike you as well.

            DUDE!

          • benr July 9, 2019 at 12:04 pm #

            @james Hansen

            I don’t care one whit about your opinion which is exactly what you have spun as reality.

          • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 1:24 pm #

            Uh oh benr they are circling you lol! Orange Man Bad, Orange Man Bad, Orange Man Bad….

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqqwTgk8ri0#action=share

          • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 1:30 pm #

            Um hello, countries have been looking to ditch the dollar as a reserve currency since at least the Obama years so pinning that on Trump is really complete BS sorry.

          • benr July 9, 2019 at 1:44 pm #

            @ssl
            Indeed I suffer fools well most of them time except for the Socialist and communist useful idiots.

          • K-Dog July 10, 2019 at 11:46 pm #

            Smoke em if you got em.

    • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 1:29 pm #

      Ivan where is that in the Bible?

  60. FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2019 at 10:49 am #

    After the failed attempt by the Black Project (the Clintonoids, the US Party of War) to start a nuclear war between Russia and United States by sabotaging the Deep Water Losharik, the sweep-up in the United States (and in Russia) will proceed in earnest.

    Yesterday was too early, tomorrow will be too late, the time is NOW!
    V.I.Lenin

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    • Ol' Scratch July 9, 2019 at 12:05 pm #

      I must have missed your post where you definitively linked the Losharik incident with sabotage by agents of the US “Black Project.” Are you free associating again in the midst of grain alcohol enhanced opium and/or hashish dreams? Your last name’s not Lebowski, is it? Keep on abiding, Finca dude!

      • Ol' Scratch July 9, 2019 at 12:08 pm #

        PS: I’d get in touch with the Cohen brothers, if I were you, Finc. There might just be a movie or two in all your ramblings yet.

      • K-Dog July 9, 2019 at 11:07 am #

        One minute and forty seconds into the video.

    • Quick Joey Small July 9, 2019 at 11:06 am #

      Once a fired employee gave me as a reference. He was a POS, but in these circumstances one must not risk legal action for defamation. The HR lady at the other end asked me if the applicant had impressed me in any way.

      “The guy can hold his liquor,” I replied.

      Short silence. “Thank you.” Hung up.

      • K-Dog July 9, 2019 at 11:09 am #

        It is a good thing for him he had the good sense to use his girlfriend to screen you as a reference first.

        • Quick Joey Small July 9, 2019 at 11:17 am #

          That would have been clever. He wasn’t.

          • K-Dog July 9, 2019 at 11:22 am #

            I really could tell that from the short silence before the Thank You. Good job!

    • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 1:15 pm #

      I wonder what Bill has said about ole Jeffrey? Strange I can’t seem to find any Clinton quotes when searching on Bing. Wow, I wonder why? Maybe you can help find some? But hey a Clinton person is joining the prosecution team so no doubt that is going to be a fair and balanced investigation lol. No matter what though…he never had sexual relations with that woman.

  61. volodya July 9, 2019 at 11:25 am #

    I think Janos and Tate are addressing the practical aspects of this “love thy neighbor as thyself” business. You can get into endless discussion as to what’s meant by this word and that, and how the meaning of each term subtly shifts with translation from ancient languages to more modern versions and from Hebrew to Greek to English.

    But one thing is for sure no matter the complexities of language and societal context and it’s something that you can count on like the rising and setting sun. It’s this: if costs can be offloaded by chattering classes onto working classes they will be offloaded including the costs of observing biblical commandments.

    While the wonderful are celebrating the wonderfulness of their wonderfulness there’s something that’s not so wonderful lurking out there and it’s the question of who’s gonna pay. Love thy neighbor? Sure. But who’s gonna pay?

    This isn’t something in the abstract, like in some densely worded philosophical tome. There’s an unfolding calamity in a deluge of people heading north, not that it’s a crisis, nosirree, and we know this because Nancy and Chuck and all our betters on the Left have been telling us it isn’t a crisis. So, if it’s not a crisis, then what IS it? Does it matter?

    What our perfumed betters are declining to elaborate on for reasons known best to themselves is how to deal with this mess. Let’s not get into the hypocrises of this disaster, like knowing as sure as we sit here that if the people that crossed American borders and stayed illegally in their millions had been doctors and lawyers and teachers there would be legions of enforcement officers deporting the miscreants and border walls two miles high studded with machine gun towers. Yes, the perfumed get to look after their interests and without too much bother and justification. They’ll just tell us that it’s self-evident that national borders must not be compromised and the privileges of American residency and citizenship not be abused. Don’t like it? Cry me a river.

    Or, maybe it IS a crisis. How do we know? AOC tells us there’s concentration camps full of migrants, that’s how. Yes, concentration camps.,And yes, AOC deliberately equated what’s happening now to what happened in the 1940s. If THAT isn’t a crisis then what is it?

    Well if there ARE concentration camps, and if what’s happening at the border deserves the same nomenclature as what happened in the 1940s, then there must be meat wagons making the rounds every morning to carry off the bodies of those that died the previous night, and there must be monocled officers every morning making selections of those too weak to work to be gassed or shot.

    Anyway, enough of this foolishness about concentration camps. Those that defend such a description cover themselves in disrepute deserve the full measure of contempt.

    National governments exist to police national borders. Love thy neighbor sounds good, especially engraved in stone. But love thy neighbor in this case is gonna take a great deal of effort and cost a lotta money and that’s just the immediate cash-out-of-pocket cost. Who pays? There will be costs down the road. Again, who pays?

    • K-Dog July 9, 2019 at 11:34 am #

      Current immigration policy benefits existing arrangements. If humanity benefited existing arrangement policy would change from chaos to sanity as fast as it took to snap the cuffs on Epstein. Clarity in this issue is currently not desired.

    • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 3:18 pm #

      Well, one could also imagine that loving thy neighbor means loving the person right next door to you whom you actually interact with, rather than a hypothetical neighbor from thousands of miles away who has openly broken and defied your nations laws and absolutely expects to see no consequences but moreover a payday for said open and defiant breaking of laws. However the Communists, Satanists, etc., have always used the Bible and your heartstrings to manipulate the conversation. The time of manipulation must come to an end. But that means, we must fully understand that command to love thy neighbor. The entire story. Not just a single verse that can be used as an emotional and psychological weapon.

      • volodya July 10, 2019 at 1:09 pm #

        That’s just it, they’ll mouth the words, love thy neighbor etc, and they’ll point out your moral shortcomings for trying to put boundaries around the issue, and they’ll castigate you for bringing up issues as unworthy as money – filthy lucre – when people’s lives are in the balance, when they’re suffering and dying in the desert. And all you can think about is the bill and who picks it up. Shame on you.

        But they never answer the question, who’s gonna pay? Hint: not them, no, not your moral superiors. The castigators make the excuse that they fly at way too high an altitude for such grubby issues, they have crowded agendas, and many competing priorities.

        Surely you understand.

        But there’s yet another unworthy thought that’s never ever talked about. If there’s fingers to be pointed as to the responsibility for the plight of the migrants, the fingers are never pointed in the direction of those running things in the home countries that people are fleeing from.

        No, the fall-back is that no matter what, it’s the fault of the American, the gringo, as if the locals over yonder aren’t moral actors in their own right, and to borrow some lefty-talk, have no agency of their own.

        OK, seeing as we’re deep into thinking unworthy thoughts, here’s another. The local elites in the places that migrants are running from use the gringo as the alibi. It’s the perfidious American corrupting us simple, hardworking people who just want to earn a living and raise our families.

        This is the same as Arab potentates using the “perfidious Jew” argument as to why things suck in the countries and kingdoms that the beards run: it’s the Jew, it’s the moneyed corrupting Jew that makes us do things we don’t want to do, pulling strings, sitting in the halls of power in far away places or in Tel Aviv, the beady-eyed Jew, conspiring and planning. Why is everything shit? Why is everyone poor, why are there no public services, why is garbage never collected, why is health care so scarce? It’s the Jew behind it all.

        It’s the American behind it all. Or is it? Maybe it’s not. Maybe it’s the local capo behind it all, making life unliveable. Yes, yes, I know, the US supports those mustachioed hombres, but here’s a thought, maybe it’s the choice of the mustache himself to misbehave. Imagine that, the brown skin mustache exercising moral choice. Imagine that such people have got the full repertoire of intellectual and moral faculties and they themselves CHOOSE to misuse them.

        It’s a tough thing for Americans to get their heads around, but the vast majority of the world is not run by Americans. If you want to point fingers as to why things are crap and why people go on the run, look locally, look to people that run things locally, and NOT to the gringo and NOT to the Jew.

        • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 11:36 am #

          I completely agree with you V that the local officials in the home countries of most of these migrants are usually woefully incompetent or are simply outright in their corruption, deceptiveness, and wickedness. I mean we know for sure that most third world countries are by nature extraordinarily corrupt. People have to pay bribes for the simplest things. In fact, in many cases, its things like corruption that lead to the culture of poverty that ensnares many of these countries. People who work hard and accumulate wealth/property via more honest means have to buy off different officials, police, etc. in order not to have everything confiscated. So many issues going on there but your point is well taken. There is much blame on that side of the equation for sure.

    • montsegur July 10, 2019 at 5:25 am #

      Or, maybe it IS a crisis. How do we know?

      Volodya,

      Great question. Certainly, we can not depend on the (cough) mainstream media to inform us about even the general situation, much less provide detailed information on any particular matter.

      I continue to sift different sites on the ‘net to gain something like a realistic view of the world, but, man, it is -not- getting any easier to do that.

      I note increasing uncertainty among the people around me as to how to assess the issues of the moment. A strident minority view is kept in our face by the media, while, daily, we remain painfully aware of the need to give reality its due. But, as we keep awareness of these two very different viewpoints, within ourselves builds a certain cognitive dissonance.

      As “W” remarked in his peculiar slang, back in 2008 …

      this sucker could go down

      Bye Bye Miss Western Civ …

      Cheers

      • volodya July 10, 2019 at 11:31 am #

        Seems to me that distrust of mainstream media gathered steam during the 1960s. Older folk at the time had never known it so good, narcotized by good paychecks, big cars, cheap gas, beer, steaks on the grill, and so they were more inclined to give the benefit of the doubt.

        But, as times got worse economically for the majority of people, it’s been steadily downhill since then as far as trust goes, especially since news organizations became explicitly political. Even those previously pretending to be even-handed, stopped pretending and took their place at the barricades defending an order that worked to the disadvantage of so many of us. The msm constantly touted great economic news, how things had never been better, yet, the man in the street would have been reasonable in questioning who these touters of numbers and story-lines were talking about.

        They talk about “fake news” a lot nowadays and almost always in connection to Russians conniving to win Trump the election. But “fake news” is nothing new and the real fake news in recent years was in the multi-year effort, first to deny Trump the Republican nomination, then to deny him the election win, then, after he won, to unseat him, all via the fake news of Trump’s collaboration with Russians.

        We don’t trust the msm? They don’t deserve trust. So, who do we trust? I would say first and foremost trust your own eyes and ears. Who do we listen to? Maybe people people you trust, people personally known to you.

        So, how do we make sense of what we hear via news orgs or via the internet? I guess you assess it based on what you already know via experience. Does it make sense given what you’ve seen and learned about the world?

        For example, someone makes an assertion about Russians collaborating with Trump. Does it sound reasonable? Is such a thing consistent with what you know about Russia and Russians and their history and Trump and the people surrounding him? Would there be a plausible motive for Russians offering help and for Trump accepting? Would there be any special expertise that Russians have in American electoral politics to make such a collaboration worthwhile? Is there anything the Russians have by way of knowledge and skill that couldn’t be found right underfoot at home?

        The Russia collusion story sounded like complete nonsense to me right from the start and I never put any stock in it. At best it was a two year distraction to keep Trump from enacting his crazier ideas about righting gigantic trade imbalances and about extricating the US from disastrous foreign entanglements or about dealing with huge and illegal and uncontrolled influxes of people into the US. At BEST.

        At worst it was a stupid and clumsy attempt at unseating a duly elected chief executive. It makes you wonder about the intellectual acuity of those behind it. Did they seriously think they could pull it off? Never mind that these geniuses lost an unloseable election. What made them think they could carry out a coup?

        And you wonder about Mueller and this absurd road-map to impeachment. You wonder about Comey and his preposterous bumbling, and his laughable extrication of Hillary from her own criminal idiocies. You wonder about Bill and Hill accepting giant piles of money into their Clinton slush fund from Russians and not only that but personally accepting substantial sums from Russians while a sale of uranium assets to Russian interests was awaiting State Dept approval – huge breath here – while Hillary was Secretary of State. How stupid can they get taking such chances? But the intellectual inadequacy of people running things is beside the point.

        The point is, as you elaborated in your post, how do we know? We don’t. Given the undisguised corruption of those in power, given the msm’s complicity in their schemes, given the morass of mis-information on the ‘net, we can’t “know”.

        But we can make some pretty good guesses. Unless we personally witness events, that’s the best we can do.

  62. FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2019 at 11:28 am #

    Ross Perot, to whom America owes those thirty years of nightmarish Clinton-rule, who acted as a Presidential spoiler on behalf of Hillary in 1992 presidential campaign, is dead.

    https://www.dallasnews.com/business/business/2019/07/09/ross-perot-self-made-billionaire-patriot-philanthropist-dies-89

    • K-Dog July 9, 2019 at 11:35 am #

      He had a graph. And a good run.

      • FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2019 at 11:41 am #

        Financed by the Fourth Reich, no doubt.

      • hmuller July 9, 2019 at 4:25 pm #

        Perot kept telling us that big sucking sound was jobs going to Mexico. Little did he know it was actually Monica Lewinski.

    • Quick Joey Small July 9, 2019 at 11:51 am #

      Our choice was Bush or that rilly cool guy on Arsenio Hall who played the sax and wore shades.

      I voted fuck the both of ya.

      RIP sir. You were right about that giant sucking sound. You shoulda worn sunglasses and hung out with cooler people.

    • elysianfield July 10, 2019 at 11:25 am #

      Komaraden Finc!

      I voted for him…twice.

  63. wwg1wga July 9, 2019 at 11:43 am #

    The globalists have the best government money can buy!
    http://www.got-truth.com

    #oathkeepers #QArmy #WWG1WGA

    Q.

  64. FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2019 at 11:54 am #

    Yeltsin, Bush, Obama and Trump are the God’s People

    The most important similarity between Yeltsin and Trump is that they became presidents not by their own will, but the will from Above.

    I’ll start from the end, with Trump:

    Trump was not going to be president, or rather was going to, and all his life, but in general, in principle, but he was not going to take a purely concrete part in the election campaign.

    But Hillary Clinton, who was holding him by the balls in New York construction business, came to him and said: “And you, an old playboy, will be Ross Perot 2.0!” (Ross Perot is an American billionaire whom Hillary forced to take part in the 1992 campaign as a spoiler, and he came up with a program similar to that of Bush Sr., took his votes and removed his candidacy, giving power to Bill Clinton.)

    And Trump nominated his candidacy, but since he didn’t like this role, he couldn’t openly send Hillary to go fuck herself, he began to sabotage her task, including making idiotic statements like: “I will build a wall on the border, and make Mexico pay to build this wall.”

    That is why I immediately regarded as a confirmation of this theory his refusal to make Mexico pay for this wall.

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    • Ol' Scratch July 9, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

      Hmm… A life long drunk, a silver spoon fed idiot, a hired war mongering front man/puppet, and a WWE inspired reality TV host. That’s quite a collection you’ve got there. The Devil’s side looks better all the time.

      • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 1:00 pm #

        Well I am sure the Devil can put a life long drunk, a silver spoon fed idiot, a hired war mongering front man/puppet, and a WWE inspired reality TV host to good uses :-).

  65. FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2019 at 12:05 pm #

    Well, everything is clear with Obama: just look at this election video released by Obama’s election campaign in April 2008 and marvel at the depth of his penetration into the essence of the Black World Project and the perfect artistic form of this video, and then remember that Nobel Peace Prize was given to him for the fact that he did not let Hillary to the red button.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo

    And then read and listen to his memories of how he decided to nominate himself. Of course, um, he exaggerates a bit … but the fact that he correctly assessed his chances of winning is no doubt!

    • Ol' Scratch July 9, 2019 at 12:12 pm #

      PCR has a slightly different take. I like his better.

      https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2019/07/06/obama-front-man-for-washingtons-imperialism/

      Obama was the “drone king” whose regime bombed 7 Muslim countries, overthrew the democratic government in Hondurus, overthrew and murdered Gaddafi, tried to do the same thing to Assad in Syria, overthrew the democratic government in Ukraine and demonized Russia and the Russian president, tried to undermine and overthrow the democratically elected Latin American presidents Morales, Chavez, and Ortega, constantly lied through his teeth, and met with the approval of the military/security complex and global capitalists. Topping off these criminal events, Obama’s regime adopted the policy of murdering US citizens on suspicion alone without due process of law. Execution orders were issued every Tuesday as Obama with CIA director John Brennan at his side chose presumed terrorists from mug shots and biographies prepared by no one knows who. “Some were just teenagers like a young girl who looked ‘less than her seventeen years.’”

      In the name of preventing atrocities, the Obama regime committed mass atrocities. One consequence was a massive flow of refugees into the US and its empire of peoples who have every reason to hate Americans, Europeans, Australians and Canadians for sending soldiers and bombs to destroy their homes and murder and maim their family members.

      Obama was the perfect front man for a cruel empire. Being partly black, he could be presented as humanitarian and considerate of the dark-skinned peoples the George W. Bush regime had ground under the American boot. Being a one-term senator from Illinois, he had no following and no independent political base, and thus had no ability to stand up to powerful organized interest groups. Installed in office, he delivered the violence and mayhem that the ruling oligarchs wanted as they destroyed independent governments, controlled oil flows, and sought to establish Washington’s and Israel’s hegemony over the Middle East.

      • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 12:39 pm #

        Wow what a great summary Ol’ Scratch!!! So basically Barack Hussein Obama was just a puppet. That sounds right to me. Who else goes to Cairo to give a long winded boring speech about how generally wicked, and specifically terrible the United States and Western Civilization have been to the Islamic world only to then bomb thousands of Muslims and overthrow Muslim countries through really underhanded and brutal means? Meanwhile throngs of know nothings treated him like a god-king even though he vacationed and golfed more than doing any actual work. He probably laughed the entire four years at how stupid so many Americans are.

        • Ol' Scratch July 9, 2019 at 4:51 pm #

          I was saying that right after he got elected. He was either a potted plant right from the start – a Trojan Horse, if you will – or he had been threatened to get in line – or else. I’ve since concluded it was the former. He was recruited specifically for his grand oratory skills, along with his skin color, of course. He’s no doubt laughing even harder now that he’s cashing in.

          • SoftStarLight July 10, 2019 at 2:09 am #

            Yeah, I would have much preferred that he had been a genuine activist rather than a corporate lobbyist even though I disagreed or diverged with most of his views. It’s a shame but not surprising that he appears to have been a total fraud. But now his presidency and actions in office make more sense in light of his world view.

  66. FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2019 at 12:10 pm #

    Bush W in general, is a brilliant politician whom the Lord provided with the appropriate talent, quite miraculously pulled himself out of the abyss of alcoholism and was called to be the head of the only superpower at the most critical moment of this drama, or rather tragedy.

    I realized this when I saw with my own eyes his interview with Tom Brokaw at the very beginning of 1999. I missed the question Tom Brokaw asked him, but I will remember George Bush’s answer forever.
    He said:

    What do you suggest? Smart Al against dumb Bush? You know what?! I’ll take it!!

    • Ol' Scratch July 9, 2019 at 12:20 pm #

      You’re just embarrassing yourself now, Finc. In the name of humility, I have to ask you to stop. Is there someone I can call to get you some immediate help?

    • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 12:28 pm #

      Bush W in general, is a brilliant politician….

      Ok, Ivan, you have had way too much Vodka. Please back away from the bottle and pull yourself from this really scary abyss. This post is really triggering for me and I may become a snowflake if you keep it up.

      • FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2019 at 12:29 pm #

        That’s Ivan the Terrible for you, missy…

        • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 12:40 pm #

          LOL I bet ;-).

      • Ol' Scratch July 9, 2019 at 5:09 pm #

        I think the Finc might have suffered a TIA and fallen and hit his head. The alcohol, drugs, and the heat were no doubt contributors as well.

    • James Hansen July 9, 2019 at 12:28 pm #

      President Bush was a myth, President Chaney was the real power at that time. He did not play golf or take vacations, he got shit done, like master minding 9/11!

      • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 12:45 pm #

        Well in that sense aren’t most Presidents myths? They do not fund their own campaigns or just come out of political nowhere, unlike our current POTUS. So they all work for donors and have their own agendas since they are totally owned before even arriving to the Oval Office. And likely, if they don’t answer to the wizards behind the curtains initially, they will after a good “talking to”.

        • James Hansen July 9, 2019 at 1:02 pm #

          I have to agree with you but it was odd that Bush was subservient to his vise president, that was an anomaly.

          I am surprised there was no push back from you on my 9/11 stance considering that you are a Conservative. I guess the truth about 9/11 even reached many Conservatives. That is good to know.

          • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

            Well don’t be surprised. There isn’t any monolith of Conservatives out there. We are all unique individuals with a range and variety of beliefs. Just like people on the left of the spectrum. Now of course group think can happen anywhere. I personally think 9/11 was either an inside job or a terrorist operation that was allowed to go forward specifically because it would bring about the Patriot Act, etc. Those are just my own opinions.

        • James Hansen July 9, 2019 at 2:08 pm #

          That was an impressive comment, I look forward to interacting with you more in the future.

          • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 2:27 pm #

            Well thank you :-).

      • FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2019 at 1:15 pm #

        You gotta be a blubbering idiot to think that George W. Bush organized the 911 terror attack against his own government.

        I think the truth about 911 will come out soon, since it was the first substantial attack of the Deep State headed by you know who against the United States of America.

        The fact that NO CONSPIRACY THEORY name Clintons as culprits in 911 attack very clearly points that all of these conspiracy theories are coming from Hillary’s devilish ideological kitchen.

        • James Hansen July 9, 2019 at 1:25 pm #

          I do not think Bush knew anything about 9/11 and Chaney did not have a reason to tell him.

          I already proved here a few weeks ago that 9/11 was an inside job, I guess you were not paying attention.

          • benr July 9, 2019 at 1:53 pm #

            Now who looks foolish you have proved nothing of the sort.

          • stelmosfire July 9, 2019 at 2:38 pm #

            Oh Conspirator, how could you possibly know 9/11 was an inside job.? Do you have any proof besides your Youtube BS? Witnesses perhaps? I went to the scene with my local brothers and what you speak is BS. Build me a table oh great carpenter and please use locally sourced products like Berkshire hardwood. Fuck your 5000 mile teakwood.

          • James Hansen July 9, 2019 at 2:44 pm #

            What do you have in the way of a rebuttal ? What I posted is beyond dispute by anybody!

          • James Hansen July 9, 2019 at 3:13 pm #

            These are official government photos.

            https://publicintelligence.net/911-pentagon-damage-high-resolution-aerial-photos/

            The original scene had a perfectly round hole in the building and then the roof either collapsed or was taken down.

            Oddly enough the widows on both sides of the impact were largely intact, the firemen broke out most of the glass.

            The aluminum fuselage supposedly went through ten reinforced walls but there is no sign of damage to the outer walls by the wings or the engines which were wing mounted.

            The wooden window frames were intact even though 14000 gallons of jet fuel hit them at 500 mph!

            The 40 foot pine tree to the right of the impact was undamaged even though the wingspan was 160 feet wide.

            Other odd things, there were about 60 cameras around the Pentagon but we never saw pictures or video of the most important event in a century.

            I rest my case.

          • BackRowHeckler July 9, 2019 at 3:44 pm #

            JHK usually kicks 911 conspiracy theorists off this board,

            I’m surprised you are still here.

            Brh

          • Ol' Scratch July 9, 2019 at 5:05 pm #

            I agree. The conspiracy theory that the US Government’s been peddling about the 19 mythical hijackers and their magic airplanes should be banned from polite discussion so that intelligent people can discuss what actually happened.

          • benr July 10, 2019 at 2:30 pm #

            @jhansen

            You have no case your pontificating on nonsense.
            I have already told you I know someone personally that was present and saw the plane physically hit. Not a missle, not a tungsten rod deployed from space, not a truck but an airliner.

            Of course you ignore that simple fact.
            Keep talking you only look more unhinged at each moment.
            Tell me something Einstein how does an entire block burn down in a forest fire but somehow one or two houses are untouched right in the middle of the chaos?
            Or that one mobile home that survives untouched in the middle of a tornado.

            Shit happens and so do anomalies.

          • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 8:39 am #

            benr

            https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Flight_77_wreckage_at_Pentagon.jpg/1280px-Flight_77_wreckage_at_Pentagon.jpg

            You will get people who argue that the piece of plane wreckage in the foreground of this picture was planted there while the people in the offices looked on. Perhaps the reporter on the right brought it with his sandwiches and quietly left it there while no-one was looking.

            They must also have manufactured the plane’s black box recorder out of fairy dust to use it in court, and created phone records for the passengers on the plane who managed to secretly phone their families and friends to let them know about the hijack before they were killed. The families and friends were clearly in on the conspiracy as well.

            Apparently…

          • benr July 11, 2019 at 11:05 pm #

            @ga

            Hey I LOVE a good conspiracy theory but there are way to many holes and witnesses.

            I have often wondered about the pilot skill and if some remote control function was involved.
            Two fo these scum bags actually lived in San Diego and went to mosque down the street from where I lived.

            I also know some key intel found in a jihadist how to manual pointed to an Airliner attack on the twin towers captured in the Philippines a decade or so before.
            Oddly these details appear to have been scrubbed.

        • Ol' Scratch July 9, 2019 at 4:54 pm #

          Bush was just along for the ride to provide the family name as a stamp of imprimatur. Cheney was the brains behind the entire operation.

          • SoftStarLight July 10, 2019 at 2:12 am #

            Wasn’t Donald Rumsfield also a key player behind the scenes?

          • Nightowl July 10, 2019 at 3:52 am #

            It wasn’t just Cheney. It was PNAC, and Shrub was the figurehead.

          • Ol' Scratch July 10, 2019 at 10:30 am #

            Both good points. Rummy and Cheney both went back to the Nixon administration together. And of course PNAC basically as good as announced the 9-11 job before it even happened. Shrub might have been loosely briefed on the scope of the events, but you can be sure he didn’t know enough details to incriminate anyone, which was just good sense on the part of the conspirators. Bush was just the PR man, and PR men are paid to simply regurgitate the company line and not let any inconvenient “facts” get in the way. Made all the easier when you’re not in possession of any troubling facts in the first place.

  67. FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2019 at 12:29 pm #

    Well, Yeltsin … besides the fact that it was Yeltsin who, on the recommendation of his daughter, pulled Putin out of this shit, after Putin saved his boss Sobchak from the murderers of the governor of the criminal capital of Russia – Saint Petersburg, it was he who made him first the head of the FSB, then the Prime Minister, and finally acting President after an unprecedented repentance at 7 am on December 31, 1999.

    It was Yeltsin who derailed the plan for the collapse of Russia six months before the State Emergency Committee, by refusing to sign the union treaty, in which the autonomous republics were equated to the union republics.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Committee_on_the_State_of_Emergency

    Actually, Gorbachev arranged the State Emergency Committee for this, which relied on the fact that Yeltsin was afraid of the combined power of the CIA, KGB, CPSU, Soviet Army, MI-6, BND, international drug mafia and who the fuck knows who else, and will decide to flee to the American embassy, after which the successor will sign the aforementioned Union Treaty like a good boy.

  68. FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2019 at 12:34 pm #

    In general, besides the common enemy, all of them are united by one thing: they all did not really understand what was happening with them, but they heard a voice from Above and did what that voice told them to do, without doubt and without hesitation.

    And the Lord set it to them in righteousness.

    It was absolutely impossible to understand their actions at the time they were committed, including by themselves, and only then, after six months or a year, it became clear that these absurd actions were the only correct ones!

    • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 12:57 pm #

      Like, what is really going on with you? What a bizarre post, even for you Ivan the Terrible. No context regarding who these people hearing voices are? I suppose they are part of the Black Project? Is that the Project you are working on? I keep forgetting which Projects are which. I am hoping you can create a color coded chart for me at some point.

  69. Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2019 at 12:57 pm #

    A Warning For America – From South Africa

    January, 2005
    By Gemma Meyer (Gemma Meyer is the pseudonym of a South African journalist. She and her husband, a former conservative member of parliament, still reside in South Africa.)

    People used to say that South Africa was 20 years behind the rest of the Western world. Television, for example, came late to South Africa (but so did pornography and the gay rights movement).

    Today, however, South Africa may be the grim model of the future Western world, for events in America reveal trends chillingly similar to those that destroyed our country.

    America’s structures are Western. Your Congress, your lobbying groups, your free speech, and the way ordinary Americans either get involved or ignore politics are peculiarly Western, not the way most of the world operates. But the fact that only about a third of Americans deem it important to vote is horrifying in light of how close you are to losing your Western character.

    Writing letters to the press, manning stands at county fairs, hosting fund-raising dinners, attending rallies, setting up conferences, writing your Congressman – that is what you know, and what you are comfortable with. Those are the political methods you’ve created for yourselves to keep your country on track and to ensure political accountability.

    But woe to you if – or more likely, when – the rules change. White Americans may soon find themselves unable or unwilling to stand up to challenge the new political methods that will be the inevitable result of the ethnic metamorphosis now taking place in America. Unable to cope with the new rules of the game – violence, mob riots, intimidation through accusations of racism, demands for proportionality based on racial numbers, and all the other social and political weapons used by the have-nots to bludgeon treasure and power from the haves – Americans, like others before them, will no doubt cave in. They will compromise away their independence and ultimately their way of life.

    That is exactly what happened in South Africa. I know, because I was there and I saw it happen.

    JS: Posted in response to a Country Band with the word “Confederate” in their name being banned from an Illinois State Fair.
    Of course the Whites there were out numbered 5 to 1. We are not, not yet, not even by minorities as a whole. If we can play the minorities against each other, and also gain the right to be seen as just another group, we may come thru this more or less. But for America nothing….

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    • BackRowHeckler July 9, 2019 at 1:47 pm #

      About 4 million whites remaining in SA, 8% of the population. That number is shrinking fast as they emigrate and get murdered on their ranches. Also, they have no 2nd amendment.

      We are 200 million strong and the number is holding steady. Granted not all of them are with us, but white libs — specially libs with children — have to be getting a little nervous as the situation deteriorates. They’ll come around.

      Brh

      • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 2:04 pm #

        Some of them will never come around I am afraid. After decades of brainwashing and programming what else can be expected? Can you believe that some South African Whites are still very PC and supportive of the anti-White government there? It will be difficult, but I think some will have to be left behind because that is exactly what they will choose.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2019 at 2:15 pm #

          I met a family like that. The Father knew but his Wife didn’t. He didn’t like to disagree with her, but when things started getting bad, he got them all out of there. I met the Son too – I don’t think he knew either.

          • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 2:24 pm #

            Hopefully they thanked him for saving their lives. But if they didn’t really know they probably didn’t thank him properly. They are blessed and fortunate he quietly did what he knew was right.

      • malthuss July 9, 2019 at 11:18 pm #

        WHITES not having enough white children…I saw 3 mixed race couples, tonite.

        One beautiful Whitey had her ugly mulatto kid w her.

        • SoftStarLight July 10, 2019 at 2:16 am #

          And you are in Southern California aren’t you?

          • malthuss July 10, 2019 at 1:21 pm #

            near the beach.
            where meth heads lie in front of million dollar tear downs.

            A guy told me ‘that old building I was in sold for a million plus to someone in Asia. or someone in cahoots with a bank.
            When they evicted me, the bank gave the mortgage holder 350k.’

          • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 11:26 am #

            Wow it must be awesome to live near the beach! Unfortunately meth heads roam wild across the country and are everywhere. Even in the smallest, tee tiny towns. So basically are you saying that the Chinese and Bankers are snapping up all the good real estate in SoCal?

    • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 2:01 pm #

      Ok thank you for posting this. I feel so hopeless in many ways when it comes to our political life in this country and so that makes sense to me when you say that America itself as we have known it will not make it through this horrifying transformation. I can’t see how it does either. We are simply importing far too many Browns and Blacks that have no idea what Western Culture is or have any interest in assimilating any of our traditions and customs. With at least half of our White population also working against our established traditions there is no way we can hold the line there. So the focus now must solely be on White Nationalism and improving the lot of White Americans and let the chips fall where they may when it comes to America because she is fading so fast it’s scary.

  70. K-Dog July 9, 2019 at 1:12 pm #

    Next to me was a big rig. Ralph’s concrete pumping. Painted up with Seahawks logo and colors she was coming into town to pump concrete. I drove in the left lane. The blue off the side of the concrete
    bridge rail vibrant in the morning sun. Ahead of me was a double tanker trailer. On the back painted in big green letters were the words, green petroleum.

    Now I walk from where I parked to work.

    I drove by Green Earth Plumbing and Heating a few days ago.

    • Tate July 9, 2019 at 10:01 pm #

      So now you understand the futility. Sometimes we must act like Odysseus, sometimes we must act like Achilles. Most times we must act like Odysseus.

  71. JohnAZ July 9, 2019 at 1:16 pm #

    Ol’Scratch

    Obama was a puppet? You better believe it. So was Bush.

    The term used to be Token Black. You can get a big percentage of White folks to be sympathetic to the Black plight by including a Black in the mix. Think about who really ran things with Obama, and Bush.

    Presidential puppets are just about every one of them. SSL, you are disgusted with Trump because he made the same mistake all the puppets have made, going with the Deep State thinking you can out deal them. Number one was Attorney General Sessions, then Tillotson, then Mattis, heck, just about his entire initial cabinets were Deep Staters. They hooked right into the Democrats with the probes and stymied Trump for almost three years. RINOS all.

    The bureaucracy in DC are not elected, and they run the place. Trump has replaced almost all of his staff trying to get people who will do the job the way he thinks it should be done. I hope he rips the place apart during the next year or five years.

    Puppet presidents, slaves to the bureaucracy.

    Trump, so far, Obama, Bush, Bush 1, Reagan second term, Carter, Ford, JFK, IKE,

    Just about everyone.

    Presidents we look back on as true leaders, and stood out

    Clinton, Reagan first term, Nixon, LBJ and maybe Truman

    One thing in common with these, they were all impeached or in some other way attempted to be removed from office.

    The Deep State succeeded with LBJ and Nixon, voluntarily.

    • FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2019 at 1:28 pm #

      Is it really hot in Arizona?

      I hope you’re using good old-fashioned 220 volts AC unit, not that “green energy” shit to cool you down before posting.

      • JohnAZ July 9, 2019 at 1:36 pm #

        Finca

        You should definitely agree with this

        The leader of the Obama influence was his SOS until she ran for President herself. Except for Dick Cheney, et al, the Clintons have run the Deep State for almost thirty years, until Trump wised up.

        • JohnAZ July 9, 2019 at 1:37 pm #

          Hot?

          Nah!

          113 this weekend, just replaced the AC.

    • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 2:16 pm #

      Yes John, that is why I have become so beside myself with Trump. Remember how I was basically his cheerleader on this site last year (much to the chagrin of many here) but I was so excited because I believed he was going to take the Deep State down and build the Wall and stop immigration but he has actually tied himself to the Deep State more and more as we have moved forward in time. It really took the wind out of my sails for a while but you know maybe politically speaking there isn’t much we can do anymore to change things. The entrenched powers have such complete control over the mechanisms of government that hope lies somewhere else for us regular people. White Americans will have to reclaim our collective identity and life again to become any real force to be reckoned with. We will have to play the game just the same way as the Blacks and the Browns do but we will have to play better than them and beat them. We have the numbers to do it but we need the will to do it.

  72. Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2019 at 1:58 pm #

    That Train is a comin’, that Dark Train, that Hell Train, that Free Shit Army. Better be ready White America. Better listen to your White Blood Cells…..

    https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/fans-furious-after-confederate-railroad-dropped-from-state-fair-lineup-214051351.html

    Apropos of nothing above: Rush just quoted Pelosi’s daugher on her Mom, “She can decapitate you before you even know you’re bleeding”.
    Or maybe it is de trop or apropos. The Loyal Elite or “Head” has already been decapitated – now the body dies.

    • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 2:54 pm #

      Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Thus your call to reconstitute ourselves despite the current political losses becomes even more pressing. We have been left leaderless. All Indians but where are the Chiefs?! They will be elevated in the battles ahead. And those people so desperate to “win again” will back them with the undivided loyalty and fervor they will deserve and need for the dark times. This is my prayer.

      And you know what, screw Hip Hop, we need unapologetic Hick Hop!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLP6IwHE4mY&feature=youtu.be

      • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2019 at 9:25 pm #

        Not my quite cup of tea I’m afraid. I’ll enjoy it thru your consciousness only. I do like some Country and Bluegrass though. And yes, We need our own Music of Rebellion. But the “Hate-Core” type Punk that Skinheads were into doesn’t cut it. Too narrow and ugly for most Whites. Ditto the Black Metal.

        I’m afraid Nashville is part of the Beast System now. But it would be magnificent if some of these Musicians broke off and starting singing for their own People. That would be something. But as ever, the Traditionals are Christian, and that often means Christian Zionist and that hold them back in a multitude of ways.

        • SoftStarLight July 10, 2019 at 2:41 am #

          You’ll enjoy it through my consciousness only :-). The rebellious aspect is what I like in this case. Not as much the sound. I am sure you have noticed how either Hip Hop or Rap are always being played everywhere and in all things including the soundtracks of many, probably most movies. So it would be nice to reverse that. But you’re right. There doesn’t seem to be any place or music genre that has escaped the corruption. And same thing with the churches. We need a reboot on everything!

          • Janos Skorenzy July 10, 2019 at 11:03 pm #

            I did like your phrase Hick Hop. If someone said, “We’re going to the Hop”, you would know they were going to hear up to date rebel music for Whites, by Whites.

        • malthuss July 10, 2019 at 1:23 pm #

          CMA– Tim Mc Graw welcomes a town head during CMA..a few years ago.
          he also has a ‘pro choice song’–Red Rag Top is its title.
          its about a gal- she gets preg in a car, a red car and goes to PP.

  73. deetrump July 9, 2019 at 2:03 pm #

    “In the present case, debt will be paid by the young and by other citizens of the future…”

    Those who express concern about debt, both Republicans and Democrats, act like the $1 trillion+ America gives the Pentagon and war contractors, to wreck other nations and otherwise flush trillions down the toilet, is absolutely untouchable. Neither party ever seems to give a damn about the deficit or national debt until someone brings up the idea of enacting a major domestic program like Medicare-for-All.

    • FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2019 at 2:28 pm #

      In ancient Greek city-states, money first was spent on fortifying the city walls to repel any enemy, and only what remained was spent on civil projects.

      What the friggin good Medicare for all will do if America will be overrun by the enemies?

      The problem in not in the priorities of the spending, the problem that the money allocated are being stolen like there is no tomorrow.

      The priority should be returning the Fear of God into the hearts of the scumbags.

      • Ol' Scratch July 10, 2019 at 10:20 am #

        Collapse from within or collapse from without… Decisions, decisions… The US’ Golden Goose is cooked.

    • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 2:57 pm #

      They all worship money and power at the expense of everything else. That is the problem. They don’t want to spend money taking care of you when they can use that money to invest in more war profits.

      • FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2019 at 3:47 pm #

        That’s a bit of entertaining accounting.

        I thought that the “profit” is something that you take in as a result of your prior investment, not something that you invest into.

        • SoftStarLight July 10, 2019 at 2:47 am #

          Its a circle. So you put money in to the investment and you make more profit than what you put in originally so you decide to reinvest a portion of your profit into the investment hoping your profits keep increasing. Isn’t that somewhat right?

        • Ol' Scratch July 10, 2019 at 5:07 am #

          War profits are always certain, so the analogy holds. War is basically theft via state sanctioned and legally approved (to the degree that anything anymore is truly “legal”) violence. Quite a lucrative racket.

          • AKlein July 10, 2019 at 2:26 pm #

            Regarding war’s being a racket, so also claimed Major General Smedley D. Butler, USMC. You’re in good company, O S.

  74. Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2019 at 2:12 pm #

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/son-begs-father-not-to-call-police-on-black-man-he-believed-was-trespassing-daddy-i-dont-like-this-212929522.html

    Yeah cuz little kids know better than their parents. Classic Communist technique of denigrating parental authority. What next? A toll free number for kids to call and report their parents as racists?

    Ross Perot has died. Imagine if America had accepted his ideas instead of those of the Bush crime family or the Clinton crime family.

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    • SoftStarLight July 9, 2019 at 3:10 pm #

      You know this looks like an actual propaganda piece. I mean maybe it is completely real but I already see some problems. The little boy is half Asian. You know they love inserting mixed families in every situation possible. Just watch all the ads on YouTube. And as we know, Asians generally tend to embrace an anti-White, PC view of the world despite their eagerness to become Americanized in many other ways. Perhaps the little boy has been exposed to such views by his Asian mother? And perhaps his father is not very conservative or aware of his own identity anyway? It is San Francisco after all. They don’t need a toll free number either. Kids can easily report their parents to school teachers or other authority figures and elicit a state response. I am sure child protective services would get involved if a child told a teacher that his or her parents or a parent was racist. Especially if that teacher is a motivated Wokester.

      • hmuller July 9, 2019 at 5:21 pm #

        Think how much worse off that black guy would have been in Florida where a man named Zimmerman kills blacks for loitering – and gets away with it.

        • SoftStarLight July 10, 2019 at 2:56 am #

          Exactly there is always that! He should be thanking his lucky stars he lives in a permissive paradise where children instruct parents and minorities guide law enforcement procedures step by step so everyone goes home at night feeling included, safe, and protected from challenging ideas and White people. The nerve of some people!

        • malthuss July 10, 2019 at 1:31 pm #

          Traayvon was killed in self defense. Not for prowling.
          Trayvon didnt live in that complex. He had no permission to be there, or did he?
          he attacked the mulatto GZ. so there.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 10, 2019 at 6:04 pm #

            There is no Zimmerman like George Zimmerman. He’s the Quintessential Modern American, a Man of Every Race – exactly what the Elite say they want – yet they spurned him with their heel. So the despised White Working Class took him in and lauded him as a Lion King.

            The greatness of this Man is literally beyond comprehension. Not great by Nature – being a roly poly mongrel – but made Great by Grace, the grace of being able to rise to the occasion. In other words, the Force is strong with this one.

            He is even part Jewish and Negro apparently. And they call us racists…..!

    • San Jose July 9, 2019 at 11:03 pm #

      I recall Perot’s catchphrase: “There ain’t no laughter afta NAFTA!

      • stelmosfire July 10, 2019 at 9:14 am #

        I still have Perot campaign signs in my garage. Pitiful or worth money?

        • benr July 10, 2019 at 10:56 am #

          History is never pitiful they might be museum pieces soon.

  75. FincaInTheMountains July 9, 2019 at 3:00 pm #

    A submarine fire in the Barents Sea could be caused by a short circuit, sabotage or “external influence”. This writes RBC, citing sources familiar with the investigation.

    According to one of the sources, there are two main versions of the commission investigating the causes of the incident, led by the commander-in-chief of the Navy Nikolai Evmenov – a fire in an electrical panel that caused a fire and an explosion, as well as sabotage. He stressed that the results of the investigation are not final yet, and both versions are preliminary.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Yevmenov

    • Ol' Scratch July 10, 2019 at 10:18 am #

      How does this tie in to your assertion of sabotage on the part of the HRC gang or their ilk?

  76. Pucker July 9, 2019 at 6:14 pm #

    There was 1,000 years of Arab slave trading involving East Africa, the area involving what is now Tanzania and Kenya where Obama’s family is from. Obama has an Afro-Arab Heritage, which strongly suggests that his ancestors were vicious slave traders. Very nasty family background. His family was likely directly involved in the African slave trade.

    Adam Hochschild
    King Leopold’s Ghost: A Story of Greed, Terror, and Heroism in Colonial Africa

    Martin Dugard
    Into Africa: The Epic Adventures of Stanley and Livingstone

  77. Pucker July 9, 2019 at 6:30 pm #

    What’s really horrifying is when you realize that it’s a horror show and that you’re part of the Horror Show. Jesus….

    • Pucker July 9, 2019 at 6:44 pm #

      George Carlin said: “When you’re born into this life, you’re given a ticket to the Freak Show. When you’re born in America, you’re given a front row seat.”

      Unfortunately, it’s not just a Freak Show. It’s a Horror Show. It’s like some kind of surreal Existential Reality in which during a weekend trip to the Haunted House at the amusement park, the fictitious Haunted House becomes Real and you’re locked in with No Exit. Or, like you go to a B Rated Horror flick at the theater and then you fall into the movie and become part of the movie. Jesus…

      • Pucker July 9, 2019 at 6:58 pm #

        Yesterday evening, I turned on Alex Jones for about 10 minutes. (It’d been several months since I had last listened to him because he had been banned. I was surprised that I could access his Internet site.)

        In any case, he surmises that about half of all Catholic priests and half of the preachers at the big Christian churches are closet satan worshippers.

        It’s probably true….

        • Pucker July 9, 2019 at 7:24 pm #

          I’d like to pay a Sunday visit to Pete Buttigieg’s church in South Bend, Indiana and during the “service” elbow the bloke next to me and then whisper into his ear:

          “Hey Dude…Do you know that your church is purple color and that almost all of the members of the congregation are obese, physically and mentally weak people and that your priest literally looks like Homer Simpson, a stupid, fat clown? Do you know this? What-the-Fuck are we doing here?”

        • Ol' Scratch July 10, 2019 at 5:03 am #

          And Satan thanks them. Although, Satan is no respecter of foolish claims of devotion. They’re a dime a dozen these days. The road to knowledge is paved by watching people’s actions and paying no attention whatsoever to their pitiful claims. People can and will claim anything to save their sorry asses in their perpetual moment of weakness, but their actions always give them away.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 9, 2019 at 9:15 pm #

      Yes, remember than the famous movie “Freaks” was both a freak show AND a horror show. The revenge of the Freaks against the Normie who wronged them was both righteous and horrible.

  78. Pucker July 9, 2019 at 8:15 pm #

    This is Slave-level ignorance. Just stop and think of the irony of that. It’s literally horrifying…. This is what many Americans know about Africa:

    m.youtube.com/watch?v=xjDjIWPwcPU

    It’s like some horrifying tot…tal itarian nightmare….

  79. wwg1wga July 9, 2019 at 11:39 pm #

    Rest in Peace, Ross.
    http://www.got-truth.com/docs/RIP%20Ross.pdf

    #oathkeepers #QArmy #WWG1WGA

    Q.

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  80. Nightowl July 10, 2019 at 3:48 am #

    NYT has changed its headline to the latest Epstein piece 6 times

    https://twitter.com/nyt_diff/status/1148325607408885761

    Wikipedia has edited Epstein’s page to hide links to Clinton, Spacey. Latest logs show over 300 edits.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-07-09/jeffrey-epsteins-wikipedia-page-stealth-edited-remove-ties-democrats

    • SoftStarLight July 10, 2019 at 9:59 am #

      I heard this morning about Epstein’s Wikipedia page being scrubbed clean of all references to prominent Democrats. It looks like the Elites are circling the wagons to protect their own. Unfortunately these are all people who are essentially immune from the legal system that ordinary people are governed by. So most commentators I hear talking about this already sense that no real Justice will be served. The Clintons and their allies simply will never face any consequences for their crimes. If they do then I assume it will be snowing in Hell too. I also heard that the edits to Epstein’s Wikipedia page are all being done from a location in Haifa, Israel but have no clue if that is true or not. And I heard yesterday that several high-level Obama connected political operatives have set up shop in Israel to coach Netanyahu’s opposition in a bid to defeat his party in the next election. Maybe there is a connection?

  81. BackRowHeckler July 10, 2019 at 8:33 am #

    Well, in Hartford, the intertribal shootin’ war continues, 2 casualties yesterday, 1 dead. The first gunfight is especially interesting, and telling; it happened at 11:30 am, right on Main Street. When the streets are lawless, when you control the streets, why hide it? You’re not gonna build any gangsta street cred that way! Get it out there, let ’em know what a warrior looks like, and what living in Hartford is all about!

    Sometime I ask my Big Lib, Trump hating neighbors, “Why are you living out here, why aren’t you living in Hartford where your lefty philosophy has been fully implemented”? I don’t get invited to a lot of parties.

    Brh

    • SoftStarLight July 10, 2019 at 10:34 am #

      Good question Brh. It sounds like your neighbors believe that complaining about all of the crime and chaos brought on by demographic change is simply racism. This same story is unfolding across large areas of the country as we continue to degrade to third world status. And it can only spiral down from here since more and more localities are not even enforcing laws, because of course enforcing laws against members of the community with enhanced melanin is obvious racism. One day all of the chickens will come home to roost and the violence will flow directly into the streets of those who essentially are begging for such things via their SJW beliefs and voting patterns. At least those who can’t afford to live behind walls that is. And there will be alot of “I told you so’s” but it will be a moot point by then.

    • elysianfield July 10, 2019 at 11:39 am #

      BRH,
      …What say you now, Bantu man?

      or, How do you like it now, Gentlemen?

    • malthuss July 10, 2019 at 1:25 pm #

      Unz.com > SBPDL section.

      Link in comments to fight at Disneyland.

      Did you see that fight? Gees. Has every stereotype except there is a black man w a baby. Thats a rule breaker.

  82. FincaInTheMountains July 10, 2019 at 9:13 am #

    Donald Trump resumed criticism of the Federal Reserve System, saying that the central bank “does not understand anything” and may consider his two candidates to the board of governors as potential successors to chairman Jerome Powell.

    This is nationalization!

    Since the status of the Fed is, after all, strongly ambiguous, because it is wrong when policy decisions are made by a small group of individuals (and, as we see from the results, it is not completely without compensation, society pays them dearly).

    By the way, it’s not Trump who started it. It was they who started it first, and you don’t even have to recall 1913, the most interesting was the year 2011, an attempt to pull the printing of the dollar out of the US jurisdiction, which Obama managed to prevent, using New York Police against Strauss-Kahn.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_v._Strauss-Kahn

    And now the President just trying to swing the pendulum in the other direction. And, apparently, he had already begun corresponding actions.

    Trump’s task is not just to remove Powell; the task is to take the printing of the dollar under strict state control.

    So that in times of crisis, printed money goes to the benefit of the country’s economy, and not into the pockets of financiers.

    The task is serious, to some presidents of the United States, it cost their life! But, let’s hope that the times are new and Trump will manage to pull that off!

  83. Nightowl July 10, 2019 at 9:21 am #

    Excellent article that pulverises the Mueller report on multiple levels:

    https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/07/05/crowdstrikeout_muellers_own_report_undercuts_its_core_russia-meddling_claims.html

    Seems Assange not only wanted Mueller to interview him RE: the stolen DNC mails, but he also wanted to testify in front of Congress to put certain speculation to rest. Comey scuttled all efforts

    Many here know some of these details, but there is a lot in this piece that some may not have come across. The Russia Hoax/Spygate is truly the greatest scandal in US political history.

    • FincaInTheMountains July 10, 2019 at 9:27 am #

      The Russia Hoax/Spygate is truly the greatest scandal in US political history.

      What is much worse is that it is being used in attempt to unleash a nuclear war between Russia and United States.

      • BackRowHeckler July 10, 2019 at 9:43 am #

        Dems don’t care, as long as it gives them a leg up in the next pres election. Thats all that matters.

        Brh

        • FincaInTheMountains July 10, 2019 at 10:33 am #

          Actually, I think they are so brainwashed by the Dulles Plan, that they lost ability to realize obvious consequences of their behaviour, to make pretty elementary logical connections from Point A to Point B to point of no return.

  84. stelmosfire July 10, 2019 at 9:31 am #

    What is the big deal about a ” Are you a citizen? ” question on the 2020 census. .Seems to me like a common sense question. Who the fuck lives in my country? And it is my country?. Sorry . Born,Built, Bred, and Prospered. Never took a dime of public assistance. As did my Italian ancestors In the hard rock quarries of New England to build the rail beds and substrate basalt for the interstates. We also learned to talk ENGLISH!

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    • BackRowHeckler July 10, 2019 at 9:41 am #

      Rip,

      Work in NE quarries — in NH, Portland, Ct, Montpelier, Vt, Maine and Mass, and Westerly, RI, brought a lot of people here from Italy, Spain, Portugal and Greece. Recruiters actually travelled to those countries looking for skilled labor, and paid their way over.

      Some of those jobs were dangerous, and they came with health risks.

      Brh

    • SoftStarLight July 10, 2019 at 10:45 am #

      Exactly. Your ancestors were Europeans who were settling into a majority (by far at the time) European country who wanted to assimilate into the common culture and actually wanted to become American. But we are no longer a country that values a common culture or language. Definitely there is zero tolerance apparently for wanting a country that has a clear ethnic identity. No wonder we essentially have no borders. Soon there will be no more country. So many ordinary people are asleep at the wheel and the Elites definitely do not want any “closer to reality” figures of how many illegals live here to be publicly released. There may be some reaction if we knew that more than 50 million foreign nationals are illegally here. So they want to stick with the 11 million number they have been using for like 20 years.

      • Exscotticus July 10, 2019 at 12:41 pm #

        >>> But we are no longer a country that values a common culture or language.

        You’re speaking for the Left.

        Multiculturalism—a form of relativism—has been completely debunked in both theory and practice. It only seems to work when a significant majority permits a fractional minority to remain somewhat native—providing they’re discreet, of course. The moment these minorities exceed a certain threshold, they reject the host culture and try to take over. At best they’re cultural castaways, unable to thrive in their native lands, but unwilling to accept that the reasons have anything to do with their cultural beliefs.

        • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 11:21 am #

          Oh I totally agree that multiculturalism is a horrible idea and completely antithetical to any real nation-state. I should have said that it seems that a majority within the political establishment, as well as a sizable chunk of the general public, no longer values the idea of a common culture and/or language. I was simply shocked to learn that English is not actually the official language of the US. To me that is just pathetic. You can’t keep something you never really had.

  85. FincaInTheMountains July 10, 2019 at 10:49 am #

    Fahrenheit 451 and Dulles Plan in the US and USSR

    I have repeatedly written and will write more that the Dulles plan is a very ancient thing that can be traced back to the Punic Wars and the uprising of Spartacus.

    But in the 20th century, Russian writer Anatoli Ivanov, in his remarkable novel “Eternal Call”, was inaccurate and first the Dulles plan was applied to the American people and it’s not by chance that the first and most important book about resistance to the Dulles plan is Ray Bradbury’s “451 Fahrenheit”.

    And then someone read this novel-caution and decided that this is instruction how to apply the Dulles plan:

    Arrange different contests, for example: who better remembers the words of popular songs, who can name all the major cities of the states or who knows how much grain was harvested in Iowa last year. Fill people’s heads with numbers, fill them with innocuous facts until they vomit, but it will seem to them that they are very educated.

    But due to certain circumstances, Americans who did not receive college education and did not pass through English 101 classes turned out to be little susceptible to the Dulles plan, but very susceptible to what later became the Bannon plan.

    But in Russia this plan has worked in full and continues to work so far – it suffices to recall the names of “experts” who have mastered the skill of solving meaningless questions in order to become effective managers.

    And all because this pseudo-Soviet pseudo-intelligentsia did not finish reading the novel to the end, and the pseudo-patriots who oppose them never read it and will never read it.

  86. SoftStarLight July 10, 2019 at 10:50 am #

    Speaking of bad weather, we are supposed to have a tropical storm or possibly a category 1 hurricane by Saturday here in Louisiana. Getting ready for storms always makes me think of how things may sort of be when the really big “thing” hits. But when storms pass everything eventually returns to “normal”. But “normal” will probably never come back after an EMP, major financial collapse, Yellowstone blowing up, etc.

  87. JohnAZ July 10, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

    Epstein

    This man is so gross he taints everyone that has associated with him over the years.

    Bill visited Lolita Island many times.

    Trump associated with him, but once he found out about him messing with an underage female at Mira lago, cut him off.

    How many other rich playboy types fell under the Lolita spell?

    How many other Epsteins are there out there?

    Why has Acosta, Bill, Trump played hands off with this pervert?

    Like J. Edgar Hoover, this man may have a file on most of the major male figures in DC and maybe other areas like Hollywood. This man maybe a controlling influence over our entire political system.

    Watch out for deal making with this guy, he may be capable of bringing down the Deep State with him

    Look also for international connections with him. Prince Andrew is already associated with him. His billionaire status as a hedge fund trader makes me suspicious he is a player in the international globalist financial groups.

    If this is allowed to totally unwrap, the impact may be enormous and may give a framework for cleaning up the Deep State.

    I hope!

    • Ol' Scratch July 10, 2019 at 3:42 pm #

      There’s some sort of power play going on here yet to be revealed. I imagine Epstein is saying to himself, “I got them right where I want them,” right about now.

  88. GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 1:57 pm #

    So, the UK hasn’t even Brexited yet and already the US President is calling the shots as to who can and can’t be the UK Ambassador to the US, and with the future British PM making it clear that ‘our’ relationship (and imminent need for a trade deal) with the US is more important than standing by your own Embassy staff.

    That’s after telling us who the new PM should be and insulting the present one, who, for all her faults, remained entirely polite to him when the UK so recently offered him the hospitality of a state visit and caressed his ego with a royal banquet.

    I wonder how many US Embassy staff were forced to resign after Wikileaks divulged in 2010 all those unflattering comments by US Ambassadors about their hosts.

    I also wonder if there will be a formal handover of British sovereignty at some point to Washington or if it will just stay below the radar.

    Of course, while Trump refuses to deal with the UK Ambassador he has no problem conveniently forgetting – if he ever knew – that his brother-in-arms, Boris Johnson, referred to him as ‘stupifyingly ignorant’ and ‘unfit for office’ before his current arse-licking antics (and throwing the UK Ambassador under a bus on national television) made necessary by his bid to be PM and thereafter suck up to Trump.

    Will Trump refuse to deal with Boris when he’s reminded that he called him stupifyingly ignorant and unfit for office? Of course not. This is about Trump dictating who will serve the UK. I don’t recall Brussels trying that one.

    • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 2:06 pm #

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4EAc0QFubs

      Enjoy the hypocrisy.

      • Q. Shtik July 10, 2019 at 3:20 pm #

        When I said men would be expected to beat women, I meant at similar levels within the same sport. – GA

        ================

        Going back, if I may, to your comment at 12:45 PM (I think) even in a sport where strength and speed pay no part, namely pool (aka pocket billiards) it is rare (possibly even unheard of) that a top woman player would beat a high level male player. The men’s game is far more aggressive than the women’s.

        • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 3:24 pm #

          I don’t doubt it, Q. Still, at least our own Victoria Coren-Mitchell (intellectual game-show host) has been European poker champion more than once 🙂 .

          • Janos Skorenzy July 10, 2019 at 6:13 pm #

            Is that a sport? A line has to be drawn somewhere. Women have a killer instinct but it’s subtle – too subtle for most sports. Don’t know about chess (of course their lower IQ comes into this) or being a fighter pilot.

          • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 7:46 pm #

            Of course it’s not a sport. But then I struggle to think of billiards as a sport too. Or darts.

            Women don’t have a ‘lower IQ’. There are more men at the top of the range and also more men at the bottom of the range. So inevitably a number of women are going to be left with men rather dimmer than themselves, just because of the distribution. The men at the very top presumably don’t mind having wives who are just slightly less excessively bright than themselves.

        • Q. Shtik July 10, 2019 at 4:15 pm #

          play

          • ZrCrypDiK July 11, 2019 at 11:07 pm #

            All Day Long. Faggots! Heh!

            Dear ole dad – you did dodge that deep south, correct (somewhere in MA/PN/NY)? I do feel for you, and the locals you must endure. SAD STATE of AFFAIRS?!? – *sure*

          • GreenAlba July 12, 2019 at 7:40 am #

            Dr Crip Dick, thank you. Your eloquent contribution to this important debate is much appreciated. We are particularly grateful to you for raising the tone, when it was in danger of going the other way.

        • ZrCrypDiK July 11, 2019 at 6:40 pm #

          Is this a soccer $$$salary$$$ debate?!? Haha, How can you pay ‘soccer women’ a decent wage, when there is *no demand* for that. Simple economics. Apparently all the ‘roid raging inbred white racists would rather watch men duke it out, than women (faggots!).

          • ZrCrypDiK July 13, 2019 at 9:23 am #

            Tx soker! You always rub me the *RIGHT* way… Master debator, indeed! 😉

    • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 2:27 pm #

      And Trump MUST have known what Boris said when he was Mayor – either that or his petulant attentions to the current London Mayor are for a very particular reason.

    • benr July 10, 2019 at 2:33 pm #

      Lets hope so your country sure has been trying to screw these United States for the last two hundred plus years.
      It’s Englands turn to be screwed with hip hip hurray for Merica.

      • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 2:40 pm #

        Well I’m glad you agree with me about what Brexit was about, benr. That’s something at least.

        Although I’m not sure how ‘England’ has been screwing you, given it’s fought your wars with you in the Middle East and lost servicemen doing so when other European countries told you where to get off, and it paid you back every last penny it borrowed to fight WWII. It’s also one of the EU countries which has fully paid for its NATO obligations.

      • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 2:41 pm #

        But it’s good to know who your friends are, benr, so thanks for the honesty. It makes Brexit look even more of a stupid idea.

        • benr July 10, 2019 at 7:42 pm #

          1776,1812 AND some suggest you brits were casually involved in the American civil war while claiming to be neutral.
          Modern history yep our countries appear to be allies but who knows what is going on behind the scenes.

          • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 7:56 pm #

            It was hardly ‘us Brits’, benr, if we’re talking about 1776 and 1812. And this from people whinging about talk of reparations for past wrongs and insisting we live in the present! I see it depends what side the whinging comes from 🙂 .

            You said the last 200 and more years. The UK has been kowtowing to you since the last world war.

            At least we were a more than equal member of the EU. We’ve given that up to be your poodle again. Obviously I can see that pleases you but hopefully we won’t hear any more nonsense about the UK ‘taking back control’.

          • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 7:58 pm #

            An exception to the kowtowing was Harold Wilson refusing to let us be dragged into Vietnam with you despite the pressure.

            He was a better man than Tony Blair.

          • benr July 11, 2019 at 12:22 pm #

            @ga

            Bah I was just slinging mud I don’t actually believe you are responsible for all the messed up stuff England has done while preserving its Empire.
            Just having a go at you for fun.

      • ZrCrypDiK July 13, 2019 at 9:30 am #

        ” hip hip hurray for Merica.”

        d00d, U must know that only the non-MAGA dogs say Merika. You slipped up *again* !

        Sorry fai maga dog – he turn round, BITE U!!!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHXz4i704bg

    • Ol' Scratch July 10, 2019 at 3:38 pm #

      Fortunately, the Israeli’s are much more gracious when they demand that both the US AND the UK kiss the ring, although Trump of course gets down on his knees and slobbers and grovels with the best of them. Something about Nyet-N-Yahoo’s velvet glove concealing an iron fist, or something like that… It’s always nice to know who’s really running things, though. It clarifies the roles, responsibilities, and expectations.

      • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 3:52 pm #

        Well, indeed, Scratch, but it was obvious to me from the start that Brexit (as designed by the political pushers, rather than voted for by the electorate) is a stitch up between politico-business elites in both countries. Now that Trump (who hates the EU) has got what he wanted – and proclaimed loudly for) he’s taken off the kid gloves and removed any pretence that the UK will get to experience REAL sovereignty over its affairs, at least while he and his fellow travellers are in office.

        Well done Britain for diminishing itself by its own hand. The world looks on in amazement.

        • messianicdruid July 10, 2019 at 4:28 pm #

          Wheels within wheels, lol.

      • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 3:55 pm #

        I’m not really commenting on the Israeli connection there – still coming down from my mountain of indignation at what the President of the US has just done to UK internal affairs. Being Bush’s poodle clearly wasn’t the end of it.

        • Ol' Scratch July 10, 2019 at 5:21 pm #

          The theory is that the US was the logical next iteration of the UK after WWII, somewhat sympathetic to the UK’s interests, but by no means bound or subservient to them. This is just the logical playing out of that long chain of events. But of course the “official” US is just following orders these days too. The events of 9-11 and the subsequent Global War of Terror it allowed to be unleashed sealed that outcome in blood. There will be no turning back at this point.

          • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 5:32 pm #

            I don’t believe the ‘special relationship’ has ever been anything else over the last 70 years than a fantasy on the part of the British. I’m not complaining about the fact that the UK necessarily became a subservient power to the US after WWII, given it was an imperial power on its last imperial legs (and I’m not a fan of empire anyway) giving way to a new empire, but the pretence that there was anything equal about it was an insult to people’s intelligence.

            We’ve just been shown exactly what it means and meant and we’ll see more of it in due course.

            I hope you watched duplicitous Boris in that clip, Scratch – that little scumbag, without a grain of morality in his being, is going to be elected PM by 1600 middle-aged, well off Tory party members, without submitting himself to a national election.

            We’re really taking back control, I must say.

          • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 6:19 pm #

            160,000, not 1,600.

            And a shame that most of them have probably already sent in their votes before Boris’ sordidly obsequious betrayal was evident.

            Not that they probably care. Ideologues are rarely slow to sacrifice honour and decency to get what they want.

            https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/boris-johnson-shows-that-hes-donald-trumps-poodle?utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_071119&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bea0d0e2ddf9c72dc8da3d8&cndid=17965980&esrc=&utm_term=TNY_Daily

    • Janos Skorenzy July 10, 2019 at 6:14 pm #

      How did this come out? He didn’t say it publicly, right?

      • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 8:10 pm #

        Not sure what you’re referring to, Janos, but if it was the UK ambassador’s impressions of the Trump administration, it was in a very private internal memo that was leaked. It’s part of an ambassador’s job to pass on his or her impressions of the host government and officials. That was what the US ambassadors were doing when Wikileaks outed them for disparaging governments or heads of state in their host countries. But I don’t recall them having to resign for it. These things generally blow over and everyone calms down and gets back to professional relations.

        This is a first – the head of a ‘friendly’ government engineering the removal from office of a senior diplomat who has given 40 years of his life to serving his country. It’s quite shocking. And then insulting the PM five minutes after being treated to hospitality and a level of pomp and dignity he has shown he didn’t deserve.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 10, 2019 at 11:07 pm #

          Yes, thank you. An important distinction. The game must be played and it all turns on the distinction between public and private. Secrecy is an intrinsic part of human life and the political system – one which Leftists often fulminate against when it serves their interest to do so.

          • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 8:03 am #

            Secrecy is an inevitable part of diplomatic relations between foreign countries. Sometimes things said in private are leaked. People apologise and get back to normal. Professional people that is. Not Man-Baby presidents with overweening egos that can’t be sacrificed to diplomatic niceties and professional relations.

            He can say what he likes in public about foreign officials, of course, and is happy to tell us who is ‘useless’ at their jobs and should be kicked out, even if they’re a PM who’s just extended entirely undeserved hospitality to him. He’s not even prepared to wait two weeks until she’s no longer PM before insulting her and berating her for not doing what he told her to do. The insufferable nerve of the woman. And I’m not even a fan.

            Some things should not be kept secret, like videos of American soldiers targeting civilians in foreign wars. It is in the public interest that such things be leaked. Likewise if journalists are killed and sawn into bits in embassies.

            Secrecy in other situations is toxic and destructive, e.g. in personal relationships, where dishonesty is a killer of intimacy and trust. As explained by the sainted Jordan Peterson and endless other people who observe these things.

          • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 8:08 am #

            Secrecy is also not acceptable in trade deals between countries. The populations of both parties should be informed of what is being agreed in their name, since it is their interests that are directly affected, even if it’s ‘just’ in terms of their taxes being used to pay fines to corporate entities suing sovereign (haha) governments for passing domestic legislation that might harm the bottom line of said corporate entities.

            See TTIP and any future trade deal between the US and the UK. Currently even Parliament isn’t allowed to see these corporate stitch ups. Although Trump has been honest enough at least about the bare bones. Give us access to your NHS and accept our lower standards and we can talk. (Translation: ‘take back control’ and hand it to us.Thanks.)

      • GreenAlba July 10, 2019 at 8:13 pm #

        Whereas if you listen to that short YT clip I posted, Boris said what he said entirely publicly.

        • Q. Shtik July 10, 2019 at 10:39 pm #

          Boris said what he said entirely publicly. – GA

          =============

          I know you detest Boris but I simply loved his “stupefying ignorance” put down of Trump.

          • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 7:46 am #

            If a Graun journalist had said what Boris said there, the Trump fans on here would be up in arms about the ‘liberal press’. But they can’t say anything because it’s Boris and they think Boris is on their side. And he’s made himself into Mr Hard Brexit because he rightly took a punt on that being the best way to propel himself to the premiership. Boris is on Boris’ side. End of.

            And Trump will say nothing about what Boris said there, even though he’s just destroyed a man’s career for describing his ‘administration’ as inept. Because Trump looks at Boris and sees an erudite version of himself – and Trump can’t resist looking in a mirror.

  89. FincaInTheMountains July 10, 2019 at 2:36 pm #

    Art Centrism in Christianity

    I must say at once that for me, art and architecture has always been an expression of entities that are much more important than those entities that science knows and describes, or prosaic literature.

    Music and poetry stand in a somewhat special way, but their resemblance to the visual arts seems to me obvious, if only because of the holistic characteristic of all of them and the appeal to the symbolic thinking of man as the image and likeness of God.

    But I will postpone the substantiation of this point of view until better times, but for now I just want to note that the very essence of the Western European Empire of Catholicism – and the Vatican is not only the Church, but also the state – is expressed, of course, by the architecture of St. Peter’s Cathedral, whose architect at the final stage was the brilliant sculptor Michelangelo Buonarroti.

    And it is very symbolic that the essence of Catholicism as a spiritual community was also expressed by Michelangelo Buonarroti, but as an artist and poet when he painted the Sistine chapel, where meets a conclave that chooses the Pope.

    Michelangelo was educated as an artist, and he studied the art of frescoes as a teenager in the studio of Domenico Ghirlandaio, and simply did not know all the secrets of the art.

    And the art of frescoes requires in the evening to completely finish a piece of the wall on which the plaster is laid in the morning, moreover, taking into account the fact that the colors change shade when the plaster dries. After the plaster has dried, a glassy lime film appears on it, covering the paint and making changes with tempera no longer possible.

    In order for the different parts of the fresco not to differ from each other in color, the paint must be prepared with a milligram accuracy, including the eggs must be from the same chicken and diluted with the same water, but Michelangelo simply did not know all the secrets of this technique which the master communicated to his student only at the very end of training and then, far from every student.

    Frescoes were usually written by the entire workshop of 15–20 people, with each apprentice doing his job, which he knew thoroughly and the learning process was that they moved from one task to another, each workshop having its own secrets that were passed from father to son and the master kept as the biggest jewel of the family.

    But Michelangelo, in his youth, did not pass this education to the end, for 3 years without any apprentices he wrote almost 3,000 full-scale figures, that is, an average of three figures every God’s day without a weekend.

    Naturally, he had to invent his own technique, which consisted in the fact that he used fresco technique, that is, on fresh plaster, he wrote only under-painting, and then, using a dried under-painting, he “finished” the shades and details of the texture with glue, lime paint, which was reliably combined with lime film, the secret of which only he knew.

    Unfortunately, these frescoes by Michelangelo no longer exist, since in 1984-1994 a restoration took place in the Sistine Chapel, which simply destroyed them as works of art, washing away this glue part in which for 500 years dust and soot penetrated – they now resemble Disney cartoons because they lack the details that form the basis of the emotional and subconscious effects of any work of art.

    And I, apparently, was one of the last people who saw these frescoes when the ceiling was 99% finished, and the restoration of the frescoes of the Last Judgment had not yet begun. I say this so that you understand that I had the opportunity to compare the frescoes before restoration and after when they were near, and remembering that 1% of the ceiling paintings that were not restored, surrounded by a riot of restored colors, is probably one of the most significant impressions of my life.

    Once people came to the Sistine Chapel and lay down on special benches, because otherwise it was impossible to perceive these murals, which Michelangelo wrote lying down. After that, the left, shocked for life. Now you don’t need to lay down – what are this nonsense for, everything can be watched standing up.

    It is said that the Last Judgment was restored much more skillfully, but I don’t believe it, especially since in my opinion this team of “restorers” washed away the soul of the Catholic Church quite consciously, and the Last Judgment may be in this sense even more important than the Genesis of the ceiling.

    In any case, 10 years ago I again found myself in the Sistine Chapel and did not experience anything like my memories of 1989. So this is a completely different Catholic Church and it is not at all accidental that it is headed by a Jesuit from Latin America.

    And the united Europe does not want in its constitution to even mention the completely obvious Christian roots of European culture. It should be noted that this process of “Jesuitization” began at the Second Vatican Council, at which the survival of the Catholic Church in Pax Americana was discussed, and the Jesuit Order, enriched by its Paraguayan experience, first formulated the need to reformat the Catholic Church in the Brave New World where the eye in the triangle ceases to be associated with the Holy Spirit.

    It was the Jesuits who were the first to set an example of the transformation from the military order into the order of education. I can even assume that the two Orthodox First Hierarchs – Patriarch of Constantinople, Bartholomew, and the head of the American Orthodox Church, Metropolitan Tikhon, being in the know, came on enthronement of Pope Francis to be the witnesses of the Birth of a New Catholic Church, and not to conspire against the Patriarch of Moscow, which has traditionally not come to Rome.

    In the light of the above, it is useful to look not only at the roots of the Jesuit Order in art, but also at the roots in the art of the Franciscan Order, since the new Pope chose the enthronization name Francis, not Ignatius. Moreover, Patriarch Bartholomew, who is still considered to be the Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople, was present on this enthronement for the first time during the Great Indiction, even though Constantinople is called Istanbul, and the Patriarch himself is an official of the Islamist government of Erdogan.

    The roots of the Jesuits and Franciscans in art more ancient than the work of Michelangelo, and lead into the Middle Ages.

    And the Sistine Chapel expressed and spawned a New History and, accordingly, modernism (the modern world), while the “Nippon Restoration” of Michelangelo’s works commissioned by the old Catholic Pope of the old tradition is just the apotheosis of postmodernism.

    Indeed, the Jesuit Order, although it was formed rather late in 1522, but its artistic expression is undoubtedly “The Black Virgin of Montserrat”, in front of which Ignatius Loyola experienced one of those mystical illuminations that fundamentally change a person and it was he who actually gave birth to the Jesuit Order.

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Verge.jpg

    This statue of the “Black Virgin of Monserat”, or if you like, the sculptural icon was found just when Catholicism had not even thought about becoming a state and an Empire, but was just beginning to form as a kind of spiritual community, without yet entering into open conflict with Orthodoxy, but quite clearly distancing from it.

    And the artistic expression of the Franciscan Order is undoubtedly the Church of San Francesco in Assisi and the frescoes of the great artist Giotto, from which the separation of Catholic religious art from Orthodox Iconography began. True, it cannot be excluded that the essence of the Order of the Franciscans is more adequately expressed by his teacher Cimabue, which symbolizes rather the highest point in Western Iconography.

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    • Ol' Scratch July 10, 2019 at 3:45 pm #

      Tell us more, Brother Finc!

  90. deetrump July 10, 2019 at 2:38 pm #

    “Never took a dime of public assistance.” –Stelmosfire

    So, I understand what you are saying is you’ve never needed direct benefits like welfare or food stamps. But it’s not just the direct benefits. How about the interstate highway system and our nation’s ports and navigable waterways? Even if you never drive or boat, you probably have goods delivered to your home or local store.

    Even if you were not educated with the G.I. bill or student loans, your doctor probably was. How about government R&D used in everything from the internet to health care? If you eat, thank the USDA for making our farmers productive and decades of government farm subsidies for keeping them afloat.

    You never had an FHA loan? Never took a home mortgage interest deduction? Those are government benefits. You never worked for a government entity, like a fire department with employer subsidized health insurance? Do you have Medicare?

    The list of good things government does for citizens never ends.

    • Ol' Scratch July 10, 2019 at 3:39 pm #

      Thought I tuned into NPR there for a moment!

      • deetrump July 10, 2019 at 4:22 pm #

        NPR does not receive any direct federal funding.

        • Ol' Scratch July 10, 2019 at 5:14 pm #

          Thanks for adding that. Do you?

          • Nightowl July 11, 2019 at 4:21 am #

            Things are getting too spicy here in the truth department. Narrative managers have been dispatched.

          • Ol' Scratch July 11, 2019 at 10:19 am #

            Yep. I suspect so.

          • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 11:12 am #

            LOL Yay – high five Devil!!!

        • malthuss July 11, 2019 at 1:14 am #

          dee is back

          • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 11:12 am #

            I think you mean Janet is back?

    • messianicdruid July 10, 2019 at 4:41 pm #

      Making a list and checking it googles…

      “There’s a popular idea that our beliefs and/or desires create reality. But it can’t be that simple, because people on drugs, who completely believe they can fly, cannot fly, even when no one is looking. It must be because matter and gravity are looking. I wonder if people who claim to be creating their own reality, are just playing tricks with causality and identity, and what they’ve really done is aligned their beliefs and desires with what’s going to happen anyway.”

      ranprieur.com

  91. messianicdruid July 10, 2019 at 4:27 pm #

    Train Wreck Schedule:

    “If the Epstein trial takes place December 4 as presently scheduled, it will probably end just before the political primaries take place in February 2020. It will be interesting to see how this affects those primaries and also the 2020 election.“

    https://www.gods-kingdom-ministries.net/daily-weblogs/2019/07-2019/the-calm-before-the-storm/

  92. Sean Coleman July 10, 2019 at 5:33 pm #

    Epstein. I read the early comments yesterday and at least one of the authors was looking for a lynching. This is a reliable “fantasy alert” so I spent twenty minutes looking for an alternative view, by which I mean one which is closer to the probably truth. I remember coming across this a couple of years ago when the media fools were linking Prince Andrew to “a paedophile”. From what I could make out Epstein was convicted a few years ago of sex with prostitutes which may have been as young as fourteen years of age. (Was there a ‘may’ in the conviction? If so, it does alter the picture somewhat.) What has happened since for him to get arrested or charged again, this time for “sex trafficking”? These days does there have to be a reason for anything?

    I did, however, come across a TED talk yesterday by a woman doctor who was making some very serious points, from her own personal experience as a physician, about sex trafficking. I did not understand them. I mean, I understood (kind of) each point but I did not see how , when taken together, they made an argument. They ust seemed to be free-standing, but the audience and the commenters were highly satisfied. I do not believe such as thing as ‘sex trafficking’ exists. Was the girl (or girls) purchased in for pieces of sliver in a slave market or kidnapped in a coastal raid by Moorish pirates and carried off to his evil island?

    Another question is this: are the lies and fantasies of prostitutes now to be believed no matter what? Do they even constitute a superior superior c;ass of evidence because they are victims or ‘survivors’?

    I also came across a video about a fifteen-year-old girl who ran away from home because she got a bad test score at school and ended up in a party in down-town Seattle where she says she was raped and then worked as a sex slave. She said her family life was happy. Her mother tracked her down and brought her home In the studio discussion it turns out that she then ran away for a second time (I can’t remember if if was back to the same trafficker) and the reason she gave for this was ‘bullying’. The interviewer seemed surprised to learn of this new development. Anyway, she dropped her anonymity to talk about it (I think she was badly advised) and it seemed the programme was trying to make a political, feminist point, perhaps to adopt the ‘Scandinavian model’ whereby male cutomers are criminalized while the prostitutes are excused. The main slave master (from memory – please correct me if I am wrong) got 26 years in gaol while another customer (or ”trafficker’) got about ten. The audience cheered, the mother’was praised for her quest for justice.

    I didn’t watch any more, at least this time but I reflected that if her home life was so happy why on earth did she run away and ruin the lives of at least two men? Why didn’t she stay at home and tidy her room?

    • Janos Skorenzy July 10, 2019 at 6:28 pm #

      He’s probably guilty, Sean. Our Culture, for better or worse, doesn’t like Men having sex with young teenage girls even if they consented. They can’t legally consent in most of the Western World. Don’t know about Latin America (that’s not the West by and large). Parts of America let 16 yr olds marry. I don’t know if that would legally protect a man just interested in girls of this age, although logically it should. In the old days or on the frontier, very young (early teens) girls married much older men – but again, that’s something very different than just getting fucked and left by much older men. People obviously look askance at that – rightly or wrongly. Probably rightly. Although the new culture wants kids to have sexual rights it will be be a disaster in a multitude of ways. The media savaged the Jack Mormons for marrying young girls – but have no problem with them getting pregnant by their Black “boyfriends”.

      But good points nonetheless. Prostitutes in Scandinavia hate those laws – very bad for business.

      • malthuss July 10, 2019 at 6:50 pm #

        Tennessee-Kentucky, OK to wed at 14 with parents consent?

        as we both know, in the old days women married early and lots of babies.

        • FincaInTheMountains July 10, 2019 at 7:06 pm #

          Are you all fucking nuts?

          They steal kids all over the world to fuck them seven ways to Friday, and afterward make red shoes out of them.

          • malthuss July 10, 2019 at 7:59 pm #

            really?
            Tony Podesta once requested everyone wear red shoes to his birthday party:

            If you’ve ever investigated Pizzagate to any degree, you’ve probably run in to this, and similar images.[image is tony and friends in red shoes]

            It’s long been theorized that the red shoes were originally made from the skin of children who had been ritually sacrificed. Were these shoes in these pictures made from the skin of dead children? Probably not – but it’s the symbolism that’s important here.
            The ritual murders are still happening, to this very day – and these are the scum participating.
            Anon comes back with a lead on the necklace, which Q confirms:
            OMG! Bells just went off, back in the 90s I had a roommate from Guatemala and another great friend from their. They told me that many old people from there hated and were terrified of Americans. “Crazy” elders used to actually teach that Americans came down to Guatemala and stole their babies and children. We all laughed about how ridiculous that sounded. But now…

          • Nightowl July 11, 2019 at 4:19 am #

            Tony Podesta’s pedo art collection speaks for itself. As did Mr. Alefantis’s instagram (that he has since scrubbed).

        • Sean Coleman July 11, 2019 at 10:41 am #

          Isn’t the most famous example Jerry Lee Lewis. Didn’t he marry his 13 year old cousin? The age of consent varies a lot (or at least used to) from country to country.

          Perhaps among the strangest is tiny Pitcairn (the Mutiny on the Bounty island). I remember reading about a woman policewoman being sent all the way from Kent in England to impose the law on the men because of their improper sexual relations with teenage girls. From memory, a tiny gaol was constructed and half the men were put into it with the other half guarding them. Or something like that.

          Right. I found the source https://annaraccoon.com/2015/10/28/this-septic-isle-full-of-elderly-paedophiles/

          A fascinating short article by the late ‘Anna Raccoon’.

          This is the second half:

          Yet now 6 men were to be jailed by order of that British jurisdiction, in jails which they must, of necessity, build themselves – for they represented half of the islands workforce. The trial alone cost £4 million – and the Foreign Office was forced to advertise for three prison officers to undertake guard duty and ‘supervised community work, to include the essential ‘digging up the annual arrowroot crop, cutting cane for molasses, and launching the longboats’.

          How do you come back from that position?

          One convicted sex offender, Terry Young fell ill with appendicitis – the only means of getting help was a passing yacht – he died at sea en route to hospital. The other five are now released from their jail sentences and back at work in the community. The Foreign Office have responded to this threat of ‘half the men on the island’ being ‘convicted sex offenders’, by a) not allowing visiting yachts to land on the island if there are children under 16 aboard, and b) not allowing Foreign Office staff, of which there are now 11 on secondment, to have accompanying children with them.

          Thus ensuring that the 10 children on the island (yes, that is more than one ‘outsider’ engaged in child protection per child!) never meet a normal child not subjected to this level of supervision. Those Foreign Office secondments include social workers, and specially trained police officers, and add up to an annual cost of £2.76 million – which works out at £56,000 for each man, woman and child on Pitcairn – though they did throw in a supply boat to visit the island four times a year (presumably as much to ensure rotation of staff as anything else). The 10 children now follow the New Zealand school curriculum, so will be fully versed in the economics of sheep production – not that they have ever set eyes on a sheep.

          Pitcairn has become the most heavily policed community in the world. Two rotating Ministry of Defence police officers – one sergeant and one constable – are now permanently posted on the island, together with two more investigating officers. Two social workers specialising in child protection are sent out from New Zealand on three-month contracts. Under a new Child Protection Ordinance, they’ve been given the power to remove a child from its family if they fear for its welfare. All have had houses built for them (by the island men – funded by Britain) which include flushing toilets and other luxuries never before seen on the island.

          The men have now reverted to their original positions on the island (there was no one else to take them) so Shawn Christian (convicted sex offender) has now taken the role of Mayor (previously held by his Father Steve Christian – convicted sex offender), Jay Warren (convicted of putting his hand down a teenage girls bikini bottom some 20 years beforehand) is once more a councillor – and the men have had their .22 rifles returned to them – nobody had offered the islanders any other means of getting their dietary mainstay, the breadfruit, out of the high trees without employing marksmen to shoot the slender stem and release the fruit.

    • Nightowl July 11, 2019 at 4:16 am #

      “What has happened since for him to get arrested or charged again, this time for “sex trafficking”? These days does there have to be a reason for anything?”

      A blogger named Mike Cernovich filed a lawsuit to unseal reams of evidence tucked away by Mueller’s DOJ.

      They let him skate the first time when he should have been in prison for the rest of his natural life.

      • Nightowl July 11, 2019 at 4:18 am #

        Edit — should read Mueller’s FBI.

  93. Pucker July 10, 2019 at 7:10 pm #

    Don’t the Mormons have a history of marrying very young girls? I think that in some primitive societies that the girls get abducted as soon as they start menstruating? In one of my first jobs in high school I worked in a warehouse next to a fat white redneck bloke named “Randy” ( Can you believe it?) who married a 15 year old girl named “Darlene”, and they lived out in “The Sticks” somewhere in a trailer. Darlene was 15 years old, so I assume that Darlene’s parents consented to the marriage? Would you let your 15 year old daughter marry a fat redneck bloke named “Randy”? It’s all so Weird, if you think about it…, Randy and I were often at loggerheads since I lived in a relatively prosperous white upper class suburb (“Class Thang”). Randy once threatened me with a box cutter. I forgot what I did to him….

    • FincaInTheMountains July 10, 2019 at 7:14 pm #

      Here, another blubbering pederast,

      They are not marrying them, you idiot

    • Pucker July 10, 2019 at 7:20 pm #

      Of course, none of my above comment really has much to do with Jeffrey Epstein, but what can you do?

      The Epstein case seems to involve bizarre Satanic rituals involving the human sacrifice of young kids and very highly-placed political personages. Epstein had this weird airplane and creepy temple on a remote island. It was all very macabre and in full view…. It was so horrifying that you couldn’t make it up. Typically, if it’s so bizarre that a person couldn’t make it up, then it’s probably true. I apologize for the above comment.

      • Pucker July 10, 2019 at 7:27 pm #

        I apologize. I fucked up….

        • Pucker July 10, 2019 at 7:32 pm #

          What Epstein, Bill Clinton, Kevin Spacey, etc. were doing to kids was not same same as Mormons marrying 15 year old girls. As Jules would say in the movie “Pulp Fiction”: “It’s not the same ballpark. It ain’t even the same Fuck’n Sport!”

        • Janos Skorenzy July 10, 2019 at 7:35 pm #

          https://www.amren.com/news/2019/07/michelle-obama-claims-people-dismiss-presidency-after-barack-if-a-black-guy-can-do-it-anybody-can/

          First half way intelligent thing she has ever said.

          • Tate July 11, 2019 at 3:01 am #

            Black women are almost a standard deviation higher in IQ than Black men. That’s not saying much though. Muhammed Ali had an IQ of 78, but he sounded smarter than that. Blacks make up in spontaneity what they lack in reasoning skill.

            That’s what all the hush-hush was about over Obama’s grades. If he had allowed them to be released, it would have shattered the ‘genius’ mantle bestowed upon by the adoring media feeding frenzy.

            Obama probably was a little higher than the average White, maybe 105-110. He was purely a product of the Ayers combine after he went to Chicago. Obama’s real father was Frank Marshall Davis, a communist organizer out of Chicago who moved to Hawaii & specialized, when he wasn’t organizing the dock workers in Honolulu, in seducing & taking indecent photos of teenage girls.

            That’s how he met Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham (correct, that’s Stanley Ann Dunham, known as ‘Ann’). Her father, Stanley Dunham, was a CIA agent posing as a furniture salesman. He was responsible for bringing Obama’s putative father, Barack Obama, into the U.S. from Africa as an international student.

            Ann rebelled & got knocked up by Davis. There are naughty photos of her which he took & sold to men’s mailing lists. Dunham found out, knew he’d be in trouble with the Firm if they ever found out since he was also assigned to cover Davis’s activities as part of his job. That’s how Davis & Ann first met, in fact, right in the Dunham home.

            That’s how the fictitious marriage with Barack Sr. came about. Out of necessity. Barack the future president was actually born in the U.S., but in a Seattle apartment building delivered by a mid-wife, not in Hawaii as claimed. His “mentor” (& real father) Frank Marshall Davis, schooled him in all the tenets of Bolshevism. He even counseled him to keep his name of Barack Hussein Obama II (notice not “junior”) when the young Barack wanted to change it to Frank Marshall Davis jr. because he told him it would carry more prestige than an American Black name.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2019 at 1:29 pm #

            Was Davis the “Pop” that Obama wrote that poem of abuse about?

          • Tate July 11, 2019 at 4:53 pm #

            Yes.

            “Dreams From My Real Father” directed by Joel Gilbert

            https://stop-obama-now.net/barack-obamas-poem-to-his-pop/

      • Janos Skorenzy July 10, 2019 at 7:37 pm #

        Too late, Puck. I’m sharpening my Aztec knife of volcanic stone.

        • malthuss July 10, 2019 at 8:01 pm #

          there was a grainy cell phone image of children in a basement, supposedly on bimbo island. sitting on buckets. [I did see this]

          the rumor is because the human sacrifice they would see was so horrific, they would poop.

          also buzz is he spent 25 million bulldozing the tunnels.

        • Pucker July 10, 2019 at 8:15 pm #

          Because of my stupid obtuseness, for a dark moment there I was actually part of and partaking of the Epstein, Clinton, Kevin Spacey Horror Scene…. Jesus…. It was like something out of Stanley Kubrick’s movie “The Shining”… I was “Talk’n to Tony”…. Horrifying….

          • malthuss July 11, 2019 at 1:15 am #

            o yes–did SK get silenced? and film edited.

          • Sean Coleman July 11, 2019 at 10:24 am #

            When the Savile scandal erupted at the end of 2012 there was a rush among people to disassociate themselves from him, especially those who had ever had a kind word for him. Comedian Jim Davidson had even gone so far as to say that it was turning into a witch hunt and he found himself the subject of abuse accusations. He managed (by the skin of his teeth) to emerge an innocent man but not everyone was so fortunate.

            This reminds me of the sceptical Portuguese journalist Jorge Van Krieken in the Casa Pia scandal. He publicly criticized the use made by the police of an ‘album’ of photos of suspects mixed in with random famous people in soliciting accusations (a practice known in Britain as ‘trawling’). His own photo was included in the third and final edition.

            Or the man in Solzhenitsyn’s Gulag Archipelago who stood with everyone else to applaud the party official’s speech. This would have been the Soviet Union of the 1930s. The applause went on and on and on. This was ridiculous, someone had to give a lead. So he stopped clapping and sat down and everyone else did the same, hugely relieved. He got a knock at the door in the middle of that same night.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2019 at 1:30 pm #

            Obsidian Obtuseness.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2019 at 1:37 pm #

            Sean: What was the name of that Greek Philosopher who proved that an arrow can never reach its target? Yet arrows do fly, do often reach their target, and often do kill. Please meditate on this. Likewise, many children are abused in one way or another. That some are accused falsely doesn’t change the fact. Many are never accused or get off very easily as Epstein did before – a possible miscarriage in the opposite direction.

            Buddha to Siddhartha: You are clever. Possibly too clever.

            You don’t have to believe everything your mental machine comes up with. In any case, know your own bias: You love to point out the bias of crowds and the unfairness of the status quo. Taken to an extreme, that mentality serves the Global Slave Masters very, very well.

      • Nightowl July 11, 2019 at 4:12 am #

        My wife is a social worker here in Germany and her good friend a clinical psychologist. Her friend has dealt with multiple cases of Satanic ritual abuse of children. It is very real, and there are organized groups who carry this shit out.

        The shocking part about Epstein (IMO) is the scale of it.

        • Sean Coleman July 11, 2019 at 9:58 am #

          My understanding is that the credibility of SRA (as I believe it is known) has been completely and utterly demolished. I would imagine that if anyone in a responsible position hold such a belief he or she (or even zhe) would be wise to keep it to zheself. It was all the rage back in the 80s, I think.

          I was about to write that Irish nun Nora Wall was the only person convicted here of SRA, but that is untrue. I don’t think anyone has been. Ireland has been spared that particular madness. Rather she was the first here to be convicted on the strength of recovered memory and the first woman to be convicted of rape and I think the first person in Ireland to be sentenced to life for rape. Hold on, I just found the source:

          “The case of Nora Wall and Pablo McCabe established a number of extra-ordinary precedents in Irish law.
          • Nora Wall was the first woman in the history of the State to be convicted of rape;
          •She was the first person to receive a life sentence for rape;
          •It was the only case in the history of the Office of the Director of Public Prosecution’s that a witness was called contrary to the instructions of the DPP;
          •Regina Walsh said she had recalled the rapes after experiencing “flashbacks”. This seems to be the ONLY time a conviction was obtained on such evidence in Ireland. (However in the USA “Recovered Memory Syndrome” has a long and infamous history).”

          http://www.irishsalem.com/irish-controversies/the-passion-of%20nora-wall-1999/ThePassionofNoraWall.php

          Well, I got it right. I try to commit the basics of these things to memory. I think it is also the only way to get a handle on them.

          Now which of the two phenomena is the most bizarre and foolish, RSA or RMS? The latter is moronic in hazy, vague, lazy, infantile, leftish-Freudian-progressive kind of a way but RSA is full-on insanity.

          I have a useful rule of thumb, which has worked 100% so far: all sensational cases brought against famous people are witch hunts and always turn out to lack evidence. The last one here was Michael Jackson. I said at the time that I thought the story was most unlikely to be true but I was prepared to believe it if it could be proved as there can always be a first time. Well, it turns out it was just as untrue as all the rest. Am I the only person here to find this remarkable?

          • Nightowl July 11, 2019 at 10:37 am #

            The cases I speak of are from an individual I know directly with first-hand experience, and where the perps were arrested. My wife also has first hand experience and has been involved with the police in trying to bring the perps to justice, so your rule of thumb is meaningless to me.

    • malthuss July 10, 2019 at 8:03 pm #

      the official word from CLDS is Mormons are not allowed polygamy.

      • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 7:19 am #

        It’s still practised though. We watched a series last year that took an in-depth look at some of the families.

        One guy had three charming wives and a bunch of young children. Then they had a 19- or 20-year old who came in to help with the kids or something. After a while daddy spoke to ‘God’ to find out if incorporating this girl in their family was the right thing ‘for the family’. They really say things like that. They must think ‘God’ is a sandwich or two short of a picnic. Maybe in his secret heart he did actually say ‘God, my wives are all 30 and I really want to hump the nanny. Whaddya say, God? Ah, go on…’.

        What I always wonder about is what happens to the spare men. I guess it’s just the law of the jungle. Nobody ever mentions that in these scenarios, but it’s the first thing that comes to my mind – all those young men that no-one gives a stuff about, as long as Mr Greedy gets to shag the nanny. I guess they can get away with it these days because it’s a minority lifestyle even among their own. Only a small number of rejects who can settle for Pornhub or go find a heathen.

        This of course is why it’s right and proper that women should be surbordinate to men. Yeah, I hope I got that right. 🙂 .

        • Exscotticus July 11, 2019 at 12:54 pm #

          >>> Mr Greedy gets to shag the nanny

          Yes it’s a double standard—but a consensual one.

          Meanwhile, the real double standard is that gay marriage is OK but polygamous marriage is not.

          • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 1:31 pm #

            EF

            Polygamy (but not just polygyny) seems to be a thing again among trendier, less boring and conservative people than me. Although they can’t actually get married, they feel they should be able to, so maybe your double standard will disappear in the course of time. But they’re certainly living de facto polygamy from what I hear.

            Over here we’ve had civil partnerships extended to heterosexual couples who feel that they’re discriminated against if gay people have it and they don’t, so who knows what the next thing will be?

            I never understood why gay marriage mattered so much when you could have a civil partnership anyway. I had a civil wedding – while I’ve never witnessed a civil partnership ceremony I can’t image it would be that much different, but I don’t know. I don’t even know if it involves a ceremony.

            But it’s not for me to say. I know of a small number of gay acquaintances who’ve married and it seems to matter to them, so it’s not really my business.

          • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 1:33 pm #

            can’t *imagine*…

          • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2019 at 1:39 pm #

            The most violent relationships are Lesbian ones – including so called marriages.

          • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 1:43 pm #

            “Yes it’s a double standard—but a consensual one.”

            I’m not sure exactly how consensual it is in a situation where daddy has all the say by religious decree. In terms of his three wives having any say in the… ahem…incorporation of the nanny, I mean. Also when people have been indocrinated from childhood, ‘consensuality’ is a grey concept.

          • Exscotticus July 11, 2019 at 7:45 pm #

            @GreenAlba, it is consensual in the sense that no women are being unlawfully forced into the arrangement.

            >>> I never understood why gay marriage mattered so much when you could have a civil partnership anyway.

            It was a battle over a word: marriage. Conservatives had already given up all the privileges associated with it. They just wanted that word to be used as it had always been used. But in a world where the Left insists that “men can give birth”, well, you can see how, one by one, all commonly understood terms must go before the firing squad.

            >>> Also when people have been indocrinated from childhood, ‘consensuality’ is a grey concept.

            You could say that about many things—including what passes for liberalism these days.

          • GreenAlba July 12, 2019 at 7:13 am #

            Exscotticus

            “@GreenAlba, it is consensual in the sense that no women are being unlawfully forced into the arrangement.”

            Do the women who are already married to Mr Greedy have any recourse in law to prevent the nanny being brought into their marriage by the wish of either Mr Greedy, the nanny or both? I don’t know. So ‘consensual’ remains a dodgy concept in such a patriarchal arrangement.

            I suppose they could leave, with their children. But it tends to be the case than patriarchally minded men discourage financial independence in ‘their’ women, for obvious reasons, so any ‘choices’ they might have are probably fanciful.

          • Exscotticus July 12, 2019 at 10:20 am #

            >>> Do the women who are already married to Mr Greedy have any recourse in law to prevent the nanny being brought into their marriage by the wish of either Mr Greedy, the nanny or both?

            Since polygamy is unlawful, I doubt authorities would be sympathetic to any involved, and would likely use any conflict as an opportunity to seize and remove the children (which would make about as much sense as seizing children from a gay marriage).

            Not sure where you’re getting your info from, but the idea that Mormon women who practice polygamy accept whatever their husband says and does in all things is rather fanciful. If that were the case, such women would be the most highly sought after in the world. It’s not a cult, and they’re not circus animals. They typically have a say in all manner of family decisions. And the greater its impact, the greater their say, as with any marriage.

      • benr July 11, 2019 at 11:43 am #

        I don’t get it if two men can get married what is the big deal about two women and one man or three men and one women I mean the universe is upside down and backwards anyways at this point.
        As long as all parties consent and are of legal age!

        • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 12:01 pm #

          Bingo! That is exactly the attitude that they want you to adapt. That is the whole reason they push boundaries. They want you to accept any and everything as normal. Soon the boundary of legal age will be tested and removed. Pedophilia is just another sexual orientation after all. You just wait and watch.

          • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 12:31 pm #

            What’s that got to do with Mormon fundamentalism and polygyny?

          • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 12:44 pm #

            What’s love got to do, got to do with it…..What’s love but a sweet old fashioned notion…..What’s love got to do, got to do with it…..

            Maybe nothing? My comment was focused on Ben’s assertion that the universe is upside down and backwards and the implicit understanding that now just about anything goes so why even give the pretense of limits.

          • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 1:20 pm #

            Sorry, I don’t follow your reply. I was asking what pushing boundaries and accepting everything as normal had to do with traditional Mormon practices.

            And you said ‘”What’s love got to do, got to do with it…’ etc.

            Apologies for being confused.

          • benr July 11, 2019 at 5:44 pm #

            I have made that point here on this board more than once.
            That the real push was to normalize sexually abusing under age children.
            The statement “love is love” is the precursor to the next big push sorry for the pun.

            I asked a signature taker hocking gay rights what right gay people were being denied?
            No only would she not answer me, she got very evasive.
            So I point blank asked her where in the Constitution and the bill of rights marriage was called out as a right.
            I suggested they push for civil unions instead of usurping the word marriage. At that point she got red faced and loud.
            All I could do was laugh at how ridiculous the entire thing has become.

            To all I say Judicial tyranny swings both ways what they take away from the voting majority (California prop 8) for the loud minority can also be reversed.

          • Exscotticus July 11, 2019 at 10:51 pm #

            I agree with SSL and benr; it’s all about eroding values and normalizing all manner of perversion. We’re already seing this with “Drag Qeen Storytime” at the public library, and a celebration of “drag kids” by the Lefty media.

          • GreenAlba July 12, 2019 at 6:45 am #

            benr

            “I have made that point here on this board more than once.
            That the real push was to normalize sexually abusing under age children.”

            I think that’s utter nonsense based on nothing but your imagination. My nephew is gay, as in ‘normal gay’, not going around with a bare arse and wanting people to look at him. You wouldn’t know he was gay. Unless you were weirdly nosy and bigoted I don’t know why you’d even ask yourself the question.

            And he has no interest in children of any age except in the normal way that people like children. Neither does any other gay person I know, most of whom are happily coupled with someone their own age and living a normal life. And maybe gay nephew will want to get married one day – it’s never occurred to me to ask him. We have other things to talk about than gayness.

            Drag queen story time is just nuts. My grandson is at the age (7) where anything to do with boyfriends and girlfriends sends him into a fit of giggles, so drag queen story time would likely have him in even more hysterical giggles. At a polite distance, obviously. He’s not rude.

            But until people are being dragged to drag queen story time and forced to sit through it, it’s not really an existential worry for me.

          • GreenAlba July 12, 2019 at 6:51 am #

            And the thing is, with all these religious bigots that one comes across, that if you were to show them a faithful gay couple living their lives out without bothering anyone, then a heterosexual couple where dad’s banging his secretary before he goes home at night, it would be primarily the gay couple they would disapprove of and the scumbag heterosexual dad would get something along the lines of ‘but he’s just human – people aren’t perfect and men aren’t naturally monogamous’.

            Well, no, they aren’t. And they’re not all naturally heterosexual either. That’s the kind of twisted scale of moral values that gets right up my nose.

          • Exscotticus July 12, 2019 at 10:28 am #

            >>> But until people are being dragged to drag queen story time and forced to sit through it, it’s not really an existential worry for me.

            Did you read the article? It is an “existential worry” when the person hired is a convicted child sex offender. Perhaps trying to normalize fringe behavior and employing people obsessed with their sexuality to entertain children is not the best idea.

        • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 12:30 pm #

          I’m just adding a bit of social commentry, benr – I’m not stopping anyone from marrying three or four wives. I guess no-one really minds – if this is on national TV, then we have to assume they are left in peace to do what they want.

          But people worry that ‘Heather’s got two mommies’, when Rachel’s got four. Or six.

          Still, cutting out the spare men also must have social consequences, don’t you think? They’re the same consequences that we point out in India or China resulting from female abortion and infanticide. Except, as I said, that the numbers are limited as it’s really only Mormon fundamentalists who still practise polygyny.

        • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2019 at 1:41 pm #

          And you fancy yourself a Conservative? Of the Libertarian variety obviously – since you don’t believe in Natural Law.

          • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 2:00 pm #

            I don’t fancy myself anything, Janos. I consider each topic or issue as it comes, so I might appear to be conservative in one context and classical liberal in another. I don’t have much in common with what you call ‘progressives’ over your way. You seem to have a lot of people who are just attention seekers. We have them too, of course, but you do everything bigger and better.

            But yes, I’m pretty conservative on a whole lot of matters, but I don’t get my knickers in a twist about other people’s preferences, if they’re doing no harm. What I see around me is a whole lot of people pretty much like me (which is of course a psychological bias anyway, but there we are – at least I’m aware of it!). Or maybe Edinburgh is just very tame.

            I suppose I tend to start from human empathy rather than natural law, especially if you’re talking about something handed down by transcendental means. But I don’t analyse myself that much.

          • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 2:04 pm #

            And before you turn that into a ‘feels not reals’ accusation, remember all your posts decrying my rationality.

            I’m a lot more rational than your pagan mysticism with its coating of opportunist Christianism allows you to be. But it takes all sorts to make a world.

          • malthuss July 11, 2019 at 2:36 pm #

            The most violent relationships are Lesbian ones – including so called marriages.

            What about black male– any race female?

          • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2019 at 5:27 pm #

            I was talking to Benr here. I would never call you a Conservative of any stripe.

          • benr July 11, 2019 at 5:37 pm #

            @janos

            Yea written word is a poor choice for sarcasm.

            It was more of a question to the universe than an actual statement of belief.

    • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 11:09 am #

      “Randy once threatened me with a box cutter. I forgot what I did to him….”

      Are you totally sure that you are not posting from prison?

  94. FincaInTheMountains July 10, 2019 at 7:43 pm #

    Did Hillary infect the entire country with obsession to play semantic games?

    It’s a straight case – you found guilty of crimes against children, you spill your guts against all your accomplices, you turn around and take a bullet in the back of your head and you say “thank you” that you got off that easy.

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    • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 11:06 am #

      Isn’t that the Russian way of handling capital punishment? The prisoner is taken to a cell and shot in the head immediately after being sentenced right? That’s what I’ve heard at least. So does that mean there is no death row in Russia?

  95. malthuss July 10, 2019 at 8:04 pm #

    Sean Coleman–you tube, listen to Amazing Pollys level headed discussion of Ep.

    • Sean Coleman July 11, 2019 at 10:03 am #

      I used to subscribe to her channel after a journalist I respect praised her. Some of her stories were quite interesting, at least as far as I could understand them. But she had started to go full-steam into the conspiracy stuff and that only holds a marginal interest for me, which is to speculate about how and why otherwise sensible adults can get sucked into it.

  96. JohnAZ July 10, 2019 at 8:14 pm #

    Deetrump

    You are correct about the number of payments citizens get from the Federal government.

    The government plays the safety net role very well. It is an effective apologist for the loser side in the constant competition of capitalism.

    The real problem is that the economy is not producing real jobs at a sufficient rate to replace the ones lost to technology. Trump’s economy has helped some but still not enough. Competitive forces in the form of Big Boxing industries eliminate middle income jobs and create low income jobs to take their place.

    The government quiets the folks by buying them off, in the form of public assistance in every form imaginable. Too old to compete, Social Security and Medicare, too unskilled, welfare. Medicaid, food stamps, disabled Social Security, Medicare, got a problem, the government will pay you off.

    Oh yeah, do not forget Keynesian economics. If the economy suffers, throw government money at it, unemployment and welfare. It is not noted that most recessions have been caused by government actions like elevated interest rates.

    The result, keeping things “quiet”, has put the government 21 trillion dollars in debt. The economy does not produce enough tax dollars to cover the cost of taking care of the poor folks.

    Our Reaction? Let us pay for benefits for illegal immigrants, Medicare for all, and free student loans. What are a few more 10 trillion dollar payouts going to make any difference.

    Buy a few more votes, why don’t we?

    And do not forget how much that government spends trying to conn young people into joining the armed services. At least here, it is spent doing something the Constitution says the government is supposed to do.

  97. BackRowHeckler July 10, 2019 at 8:41 pm #

    Hip Hop is blaring from stolen Escalades cruising Albany Avenue tonite, like war drums on the Congo River, the Heart of Darkness. 9mm rounds are thumbed into Glock magazines as warriors prepare for battle with the chaps who live on the block over there, not my block.

    The police are nervous. Darkness is falling, and that’s when the ‘shot detector’ apparatus begins picking up gunfire from thru out the city.

    Let’s roll!

    How do you like it now, Gentlemen?

    Brh

    • malthuss July 11, 2019 at 1:16 am #

      can you link to photos?

    • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 11:03 am #

      Ok good, I am glad to hear that shot detectors are used in other places. See in north Baton Rouge and New Orleans East (both ghettofabulous locations) there are strategically located shot detectors everywhere. When I first learned of them I thought wow how embarrassing that we literally have to have shot detectors because the thugs are that out in the streets, but apparently its not just here so that makes me feel better. We are always the last on the list of everything so it makes me feel a little better that its not just here if that makes sense.

      • BackRowHeckler July 11, 2019 at 11:29 am #

        No, Shot Detectors are in vogue nationwide.

        It makes us ‘Feel Safe’, and reassures us that everything is still under control.

        Brh

        • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 12:36 pm #

          Awesome, we aren’t the bottom of the barrel on this one :-)!

      • malthuss July 11, 2019 at 6:36 pm #

        What is it?

    • benr July 11, 2019 at 11:40 am #

      Van Nyes in the early 80’s was like this.
      One street would sell weed, the next one over was pcp and the next one was some other drug and woe unto any other group trying to sling poison on the wrong street or from the wrong set.
      Meanwhile us little kids had to walk to school through this jungle.
      Lots of violence and gang banging but again it has only become worse.
      The movie Colors was pretty accurate to what I saw back then.

      • malthuss July 11, 2019 at 2:38 pm #

        The valley. its really bad, now. The east valley. panorma shitty, fer instance.

        • benr July 11, 2019 at 5:45 pm #

          I lived on cedros street as a kid and it was terrible back then!

    • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2019 at 1:44 pm #

      You shouldn’t have launched that crusade against Fascism and National Socialism. Instead, Europe would have exported these life giving philosophies to America and saved us from all of this. Will you not repent now at the last, at the 11th hour?

  98. BackRowHeckler July 10, 2019 at 8:54 pm #

    For you CFNers titillated by this Epstein news, look up the Sanford White/Evelyn Nesbit/Harry Thaw case of 1906. Now that was a scandal!

    Brh

    • FincaInTheMountains July 11, 2019 at 9:02 am #

      Hey, Marlin, how do you think that US pedofile story would size up to Soviet Golodomor or Gulag?

      • BackRowHeckler July 11, 2019 at 10:03 am #

        Comrade Finca,

        In Vorkuta, at Kolyma, said pedophile ‘Zek’, would be identified and sought out by tattooed Bezprizorniye, or Osobo Opasnim Devistom, siezed, roughed up, then chopped up into little bits, starting with fingers and toes. The guards would not interfere.

        ‘The Great Terror’ Robert Conquest.

        • FincaInTheMountains July 11, 2019 at 10:17 am #

          What did I tell ya?

          You gotta put a Fear of God in the hearts of these muzerfukas!

  99. BackRowHeckler July 10, 2019 at 9:12 pm #

    I’ll be watching video of the latest — the last one of the season — ticker tape LBGTQ Pride Parade from the ‘Canyon of Heroes’ in NYC tonite!

    Who’s with me?

    Brh

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  100. Janos Skorenzy July 10, 2019 at 11:12 pm #

    JS: Ross Perot’s last act was to make a contribution to Trump. Will Trump justify the faith of this dying Man in his next term?

    Fox:

    In his last documented political act, self-made billionaire and two-time presidential candidate Ross Perot wrote out two checks to President Trump’s re-election campaign before succumbing to his battle with leukemia at the age of 89, according to a report.

    Perot, who ran for president as a third-party candidate in 1992 and 1996, is largely credited with providing a road map for Trump’s presidential campaign.

    Like Trump, Perot ran as a billionaire populist against the Republican establishment. His focus on the North American Free Trade Agreement – rather than the national debt – and his use of cable news for laying out his agenda were both familiar elements of Trump’s campaign.

    As Democratic strategist James Carville put it in a 2016 podcast: “If Donald Trump is the of Jesus of the disenchanted, displaced non-college white voter, then Perot was the John the Baptist of that sort of movement.”

    • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 10:58 am #

      James Carville is a very strange man. You know his wife is actually a very Conservative lady. I think she is even a registered Republican. He is such an extreme Liberal too. I guess in their case opposites really do attract lol.

      My daddy has mentioned Ross Perot before and apparently voted for him back in the day if I remember that story correctly. Pioneers are so cool :-).

      • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

        Study Carville’s head: Very low forehead but it goes way back at the back. He has the blood of a lost race in him. The Ramses Pharaohs and other were like this as well, but even more so.

        He acts strange and looks strange because he is strange. He shaves off his hair and hides it in plain sight – as if it’s just your prejudice should you notice. Clever. One of the hypnotic techniques Kdog was talking about.

        The Elite don’t want us to know about this because they are or fancy themselves descended from the same race perhaps. Likewise, they hid the skeletons of the Giants. Not because they are descended from them, but just to keep the narrative simple and keep us fat in flatland.

        • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 4:53 pm #

          Wow this post is simply mind blowing! So this lost race that you speak of then did not disappear. If I fully understand who this lost race is then the story goes that they disappeared altogether a very long time ago. And maybe just maybe we have a bit of them in us today. But, what you are saying implies that there has been a secretive continuity and they are still among us and perhaps even ruling over us. That is game changing!

          • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2019 at 5:19 pm #

            Perhaps. Why do Anthropologists deny what is staring them in the face?

            Some of the ruling classes in Ancient Malta and Peru had this as well. It is still found in some African tribes. An alien input into one or more races? Some try to explain it away saying it was just an artistic style (ignoring the actual skulls) or that it was the result of infant head binding (ignoring that it occurs naturally in some modern people). Head biding may have been a way to honor the upper class or to try and help your child gain access to it.

          • benr July 11, 2019 at 5:49 pm #

            @janos

            You are aware that some peoples practiced skull binding like the Chinese ladies practiced foot binding.

            There are also genetic abnormalities from extreme inbreeding.

            Jaw, nose, skin tone and skull abnormalities.

            https://owlcation.com/humanities/The-Habsburg-Jaw-And-Other-Royal-Inbreeding-Deformities-and-Disorders

          • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2019 at 7:09 pm #

            Binding your baby’s skull will distort it – but not make it bigger. In contrast, the Ancient Aristocrats had huge brain capacities, far beyond that of even the races of modern man. As you know (hopefully), there is a robust relationship between head size and brain size, and brain size and IQ, and thus between head size and IQ. Pin heads are dummies…..

            https://www.disclose.tv/alien-remains-in-antarctica-three-new-elongated-skulls-uncovered-in-antarctica-311794

            And if the above link is false? Doesn’t matter – this “race” has been found all over the place. Google is your friend. Try “elongated skulls”, or Nefertiti’s skull, etc.

          • benr July 11, 2019 at 11:16 pm #

            @janos

            I would argue that Google is NOT your friend.
            I use start page.
            I have dumped facebook
            Twitter
            Instagram
            Big tech is getting more invasive and more Orwellian by the day.

    • Tate July 11, 2019 at 6:41 pm #

      They call him ‘Snakehead.’ I saw him once walking on the 16th street mall in Denver with his wife. He does have a strange reptilian appearance.

  101. BackRowHeckler July 11, 2019 at 10:14 am #

    Two more casualties in Hartford last night, one with gunshots to arms and legs, but another took a round to the head. (Hes critical)

    The battle continues, nobody knows who is winning. This could be one of those situations Thomas Hobbes wrote about in ‘The Leviathan’, All Against All’, which happens when civilization itself breaks down and evaporates. Or there might be shifting alliances, who knows. Hispanic gangs are in the mix too, staking out territory and asserting their identity.

    Brh

    • Ol' Scratch July 11, 2019 at 10:30 am #

      Sounds like you’ve got a a “bloody good row” going on up there, as the peeps over GA’s way might say. It’s the wave of the future.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRWq6x2NyzA

      • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 10:52 am #

        OMG lol this is so cute and funny. I told you. Sometimes it feels like there is nothing better than an intense and heated argument.

      • BackRowHeckler July 11, 2019 at 10:59 am #

        That about nails it, Scratch.

        Just in. The guy shot in the head “on Earl Street”, has died.

        Brh

    • elysianfield July 11, 2019 at 11:48 am #

      “The battle continues, nobody knows who is winning…”

      BRH,
      Ahh…don’t be disingenuous. Polite Society is winning. Do you think the police, dealing with these predators year in and year out, decry the loss to humanity of the active shooters who are found DOA?

      Of course they do! They understand that DeShawn and Cleotis might have turned their lives around, gone to college, and cured cancer, or became wealthy and founded orphanages…or become noted rocket surgeons…or…..

      …I have a bad attitude borne from direct experience.

      • BackRowHeckler July 11, 2019 at 12:48 pm #

        That’s the realpolitik aspect of it, E, and yes, these Hartford cops have seen it all. They are tough, in their leather jackets and bullet proof vests, and not to be trifled with.

        But how abour another approach: send in Trigglypuff and a squad of SJ warriors. (Who are perpetually worried about minorities)

        Brh

        • BackRowHeckler July 11, 2019 at 1:28 pm #

          Trigglypuff and her squad of SJWs — overweight white girls but dressed in combat chic — make their way up Albany Avenue, sweating profusely in the summer heat, trying not to notice the surrounding squalor. Not knowing exactly where to go, she spots Cleotis and DeShawn on a street corner.

          Cleotis and DeShawn are members of the Capen Street Crew.

          “Hey Brothas”, says Trigglypuff, trying to affect an urban black dialect without sounding ‘threatening’. “What’s Shakin?”

          Trigglypuff tries out a ‘gangland handshake’ she’d seen on ‘The Wire’ reruns. Onlookers, by now gathering around, are startled. Some are bemused. Some of the older community members are wondering “what are these Honkies doing here?”

          Trigglypuff and her squad thinks things are going well. This is the ‘Direct Action’ they learned about back in Soc 101, freshman year.

          Meanwhile, DeShawn and Cleotis nervously finger the Glock 17s concealed in their wastebands.

          Brh

          • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 4:34 pm #

            Awesome story! I think Trigglypuff and squad are in deep doo doo lol. And DeShawn and Cleotis are the wake up calls those girls wish they had never heard. Should have listened to those redneck relatives in the trailer park! Oh well.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2019 at 1:52 pm #

      Is it partially the Hispanics against the Blacks? They’ve ethnically cleansed them from many places.

      • BackRowHeckler July 11, 2019 at 2:24 pm #

        Not clear yet. The local media is reporting story only reluctantly, as you can imagine.

        Just in: body full of holes found behind Buckley HS, chalk lines being drawn as I type this.

        Looks like a storm’s brewing, which might dampen down the volence a little. Do these soldiers clean their guns and keep them in tiptop shape?
        Brh

  102. FincaInTheMountains July 11, 2019 at 10:56 am #

    And once again about the Dulles plan, which was not, but which actually was

    I wanted to write about the Sakharov Plan, as I understand it, now known as “Poseidon”, in particular that this plan could have saved the USSR from the military lag in the 80s, but which was neutralized by NATO’s secret weapon named “Yelena Bonner”.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status-6_Oceanic_Multipurpose_System

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yelena_Bonner

    And the use of this weapon is part of the Dulles’ plan, just like the Roman prostitutes, whom Crassus sent to the army of Spartacus, despite the fact that Spartacus’s uprising took place 2000 years before the birth of Allen Dulles.

    The fact of the matter is that the “Dulles plan” is the “know how” of the Black World Project and even before the epic battle of Spartacus and Crassus it can be traced in the story of the Jewish holiday of Purim, which in the Soviet Union the so-called “Jewish party” associated with the execution of Nazi criminals, and the so-called “patriotic” party associated with the death of the creator of the state of Israel, Joseph Stalin.

    And this important fact is now the center of international politics, due to the fact that the so-called peace plan in the Middle East, which is attributed to Barack Obama, although in fact it is the brainchild of Hillary Clinton, just like the Oslo plan, according to which Israel was forced to leave Lebanon, leaving Israel’s allies, Maronite Christians, to be slaughtered by Hezbollah.

    And I can write a whole series of posts about how Nevzlin’s flight from Russia showed that the purpose of the Oslo agreements was to destroy the union of Israel and Maronite Christians, or that Dulles’s plan was applied by a man named Amman to the Persian people, part of which was the complete extermination of the Jewish people, just as the complete extermination of the Jewish people was part of the Generalplan Ost.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonid_Nevzlin

    But why bother, if this was written in black on white, not only in Hitler’s diaries, recently declared a fake, but also in one of the books of the Holy Scriptures dedicated to an Orthodox saint Esther, nevertheless, many Americans (and Russians), 65 years after the Nuremberg trials, will still repeat that the Jewish holiday Purim is the evidence of the antiquity of the world Jewish conspiracy described in the Protocols The Elders of Zion.

    And now I want to apologize to JHK, who allows propagate these vile ideas on the pages of this blog, but they do tell me a lot of the most important details of the deployment of Dulles plan in modern America, without which I can not track this topic.

    And this anti-Semitic comments by you know who is also Dulles’ plan, which can be counteracted only as a world phenomenon and only in historical perspective, and being localized in space and time with the light hand of people like Janos, the warning about the plot of The Elders of Zion turns into its opposite, into a part of the Dulles plan, in the “know how” of the Black World Project.

    And in the last 20 years, the manipulations with these warnings have acquired a special, I would say, semantic depths, clearly bearing the fingerprints of Hillary Clinton. It came to the point that after the organized IL-20 catastrophe in Syria, literally hundreds of Orthodox Christians in Russia screamed:

    Yes, we are Russians, we are Gogs and Magogs, now we will show these Jews, who shot down our plane, where crayfish spend winter!

    That is, 25 years after the collapse of the atheistic state in Russia, the Orthodox Christians of Russia either do not know who Gog and Magog are, or are ready to take part in the last battle of Armageddon as soldiers of Satan, only to show those damned Jews where crayfish spend winter!

    Like, write us down as Gogs and Magogs, we will destroy Israel to hell, and then we will unsubscribe from Gogs and Magogs!.

    No, my dear brothers and sisters in Christ, contracts for the service of Satan are signed in blood, so that you simply can’t get out so easily!

    This is exactly where the principle of the entry is a dollar, and the exit is a hundred works!

    • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 11:41 am #

      How do you know contracts with Satan are signed with blood? I never found that in the manual.

      • FincaInTheMountains July 11, 2019 at 12:05 pm #

        Even Wikipedia says so!

        Deal with the Devil

        A written pact consists in the same forms of attracting the demon, but includes a written act, usually signed with the conjurer’s blood (although sometimes it was also alleged that the whole act had to be written with blood; meanwhile some demonologists defended the idea of using red ink instead of blood and others suggested the use of animal blood instead of human blood).

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deal_with_the_Devil

        • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 12:35 pm #

          And if Wikipedia says it then you know it must be true ;-).

    • Ol' Scratch July 11, 2019 at 4:15 pm #

      There are none so blind as those who refuse to see, I’ve always said. An addendum to that would be those who see things that clearly are not there, or even more to the point, those who ascribe their sins to others, in a classic case of psychological projection. That last one in particular seems to be on the rise these days. Go figure.

      But yes, Blood Contracts are surely the way of the world these days – always have been. But it’s not the Devil that demands them, it’s the arrogant deluded humans who imagine themselves to be “God’s Chosen” and who want to hold dominion over each other. Thus the popular definition of their word “goyem” to mean “heathen,” or simply “cattle.” By their words and their deeds you shall know them. The mark of the beast is on them. Yes, indeedy!

      The Devil simply observes, laughs at, and occasionally facilitates the foibles of silly humans. It’s easy work and always quite a show you all are putting on for me!

      • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 4:29 pm #

        You’re pretty smart Devil. So you are blaming the humans for everything lol. But I thought you were the Tempter? But I do give it to you that we do often have a very high opinion of ourselves don’t we. Some humility and a smidge of compassion can go a long way!

  103. James Hansen July 11, 2019 at 12:12 pm #

    At our request, GB has seized an Iranian oil tanker in international waters for sanction violations which is strange because GB is still part of the nuclear deal with Iran.

    Trump also is asking any other allies to seize any Iranian oil tankers any where in the world as he wants to cut oil sales to zero for Iran.

    This means we are at war with Iran without firing a shot and Israel must be overjoyed as this is what they have wanted for a very long time.

    Iran will lash out in some way against this piracy and then we are off to the races. Trump is a moron to take such risk for Israel with no benefits for us.

    At the very least oil prices will skyrocket and at the worst we will be starting a world war.

    • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 12:32 pm #

      That’s what I thought about that last incident in the Persian Gulf but nothing came of it. Either way I wish we would just get out of the Middle East and let them fight amongst themselves if that is what they really want to do. Seems like they have been at it for thousands of years so who in their right mind thinks they can somehow bring peace to that region now?

      • James Hansen July 11, 2019 at 3:30 pm #

        I would not single out the Middle East for violence, even my relatives in Norway were pretty good at killing in the past.

        Man is the most violent animal on the planet and that will not change any time soon.

        The U.S. has expended great amounts of time and treasure over the decades in promoting war and chaos in the Middle East and elsewhere. If you remove all the actions of the U.S. from the Middle East the place would look fairly peaceful.

        Iran 1953, instigating the Iran and Iraq war, Two wars in Iraq by the U.S. Supporting the anti Assad forces in Syria for seven years, and many smaller actions of all sorts.

        Our unconditional support for Israel will prevent peace from ever happening. Twenty thousand Palestinians were shot by Israeli sharp shooters recently and then they stopped medical supplies from reaching the hospitals.

        What do we do? Cut all aid to the Palestinians!

        • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 4:26 pm #

          I do understand that we have a big role to play in fostering wars so that the war industries profit big time and the politicians get kickbacks or whatever it is they get for supporting endless wars. For that we are definitely guilty as charged. However, I would submit to you that even without our presence there the Muslims and Jews will always be at war. Its within their religions to function that way against each other.

          To be honest, we should cut foreign aid to both Israel and the Palestinians. Thank of how many billions upon billions of dollars goes to foreign countries. And its taxpayer money that should be spent at home. Foreign aid should be replaced by missionaries and charities. But before that, don’t officials in all of these messed up countries have a responsibility to better the lives of their own people and societies? If America is such a terrible and horrible society why do we bankroll so many people? There never is much gratitude for that. I suppose no good deed goes unpunished.

          • James Hansen July 11, 2019 at 7:31 pm #

            I was surprised to read that the two top recipients are Afghanistan 10 billion and Israel 7 billion a year.

            I guess we are putting flat screens in every cave in Afghanistan!

            I would rather see that money go towards building up our railroads, you can lay a lot of track for 17 billion a year.

          • BackRowHeckler July 11, 2019 at 7:39 pm #

            You’d be running empty trains back snd forth.

            Passengers are in cars and freight is in trucks

          • elysianfield July 12, 2019 at 10:53 am #

            BRH,

            “40 Hommes 8 Chevaux”

        • BackRowHeckler July 11, 2019 at 5:18 pm #

          There was plenty of warfare in the Middle East before the US got involved there in the 50’s in Iran, which was a Cold War action, and Suez in 1956, when Ike told the UK to stand down, we’d handle it.

          Read Kermit Roosevelt’s book ‘War in the Garden of Eden’ about his service with the British Army in Iraq in 1915. Lawrence of Arabia wrote extensively about the same period, the same area.

          It took 7 billion barrels of oil to win WW2, and 6 1/2 billion of them came from the Continental US. We were tapped out, which is why FDR signed those treaties with Saudi Arabia, where large deposits of oil had been discovered in 1932. It was a business agreement.

          The French Army under Napolean invaded Egypt in 1806, Germans were in Turkey and Syria in 1914.

          To say the US has ‘promoted wars in the Middle East’ is absurd and simplistic.

          Brh

          • James Hansen July 11, 2019 at 5:48 pm #

            “To say the US has ‘promoted wars in the Middle East’ is absurd and simplistic”

            So we never gave WMD to Saddam Hussein and never started any wars there? WOW!

  104. SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 12:28 pm #

    So we are supposed to worship Megan Rapinoe now as a trend setter and boundary breaker…. You know butches are kinda like men. Usually reserved but also aggressive, acting all hard core and tough, not into attention except that many of them are replete with tats. And always they have those boy cuts. But Megan is all into herself and what she deserves and this and that, and she is very showy and extraverted. So then is she really more of a femme? Maybe I am thinking too stereotypically and need to get more gender fluid to understand. So now butches can be self centered bitches and femmes can be aggressive and shout “pay up bitches”? I’m so confused lol. But either way she does seem like a real bitch.

    https://www.newswars.com/purple-haired-anti-trump-u-s-soccer-star-rants-i-deserve-this/

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    • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 1:37 pm #

      Could you perhaps just ignore her? Would that be too radical?

      • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2019 at 1:54 pm #

        Ignore is the root of Ignorance. That’s how Evil wins.

        • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 2:11 pm #

          And misapplied etymology doesn’t help anything really.

          • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2019 at 2:57 pm #

            So you dispute that ignore is the root of ignorance? Or just that for the Triumph of Evil is only necessary for good men to do nothing? In any case, you are wrong.

          • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 4:18 pm #

            I am afraid you crashed into a wall of indisputable logic Alba.

          • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 4:57 pm #

            I’m aware of the etymology, but it doesn’t apply in your supposed analogy.

            You are clearly not unaware of or lacking in knowledge about Ms Rapinoe’s existence or activities, which ‘ignorance’ implies. I merely suggested you pay her no mind, which is what ‘ignore’ means in this context.

            The use of ‘ignore’, as in ‘I ignore his name’, meaning your don’t know it, is somewhat archaic.

            SSL, punctuation changes meaning. But if you wish to address me as ‘indisputable logic Alba’, be my guest. 🙂

          • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 5:34 pm #

            *you* don’t know it…

          • elysianfield July 12, 2019 at 10:55 am #

            “And misapplied etymology”

            Alba,
            …misapplied entomology even worse….

      • BackRowHeckler July 11, 2019 at 2:32 pm #

        Ignore her?

        The face is on the telescreen 24/7, all channels, like Big Brother in Airstrip1.

        Big Sister sees all and knows all, and if you have any anti LBGQT thoughts in your head, they will be ferreted out.

        Brh

        • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 2:52 pm #

          “The face is on the telescreen 24/7, all channels”

          America is a weird place. 🙂

          • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 4:17 pm #

            You love every second of it :-).

          • GreenAlba July 11, 2019 at 5:06 pm #

            It’s certainly a distraction from everyday life in our small capital.

        • James Hansen July 11, 2019 at 2:56 pm #

          I have never seen her face on TV but the only thing I am watching is the Tour de France. Only the fittest people in the world can compete in that sport.

        • James Hansen July 11, 2019 at 3:37 pm #

          Lance got robbed because he was competing with riders who were ALL using performance enhancing drugs at the time.

          • jim e July 11, 2019 at 5:35 pm #

            Agreed… but?

            Landis’ one robbed victory may have been more impressive that all of Lance’s?

          • James Hansen July 11, 2019 at 6:08 pm #

            Floyd Landis is a pos, he received over a million dollars for snitching on Lance and other teammates when he was cheating also.

            When he got caught he should of kept his mouth shut and he could of continued his career after the suspension. Nobody likes a tattle tale.

          • Q. Shtik July 11, 2019 at 9:42 pm #

            he should of kept his mouth shut and he could of continued his career – J Hansen

            ==============

            If this is a deliberate attempt to get my attention, you have succeeded.

          • James Hansen July 11, 2019 at 11:06 pm #

            I told you there will be no should haves from me especially after you ignored my motorcycle comment.

            By the way you missed several typos up tread, you are losing your touch.

      • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 4:16 pm #

        It would be a pleasure to ignore her, but if I try to watch or listen to just a bit of news guess who is in my face.

    • Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2019 at 1:57 pm #

      The worse role model imaginable for little girls – except perhaps for Miley Cyrus and her ilk. How can Moms be so dumb?

      • SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 4:14 pm #

        Yes, she is definitely a terrible role model. I certainly would never endorse her as a role model. Between her nasty mouth, disrespectful behavior, shameless promotion of her sexuality, and the fact that she threw the flag on the ground she is not allowed on the screens in my household. My relatives and girlfriends are the same. But unfortunately there are also lots of parents who don’t get as involved in what their kids are or are not looking at. Then you have those who allow their children to soak up objectionable content because they don’t have any moral compass and/or they just don’t care enough. I don’t know how moms or any parents can be so dumb but as you know, it happens every day.

  105. SoftStarLight July 11, 2019 at 4:03 pm #

    Some of you may be paying higher gas prices for a bit. They are evacuating the oil platforms off the coast ahead of Tropical Storm Barry and shutting down production. The latest is that Barry will be a minimal hurricane when it hits the coast supposedly. Just enough to stop the spigots from flowing for a while. Something like 32% of Gulf oil production and 18% of natural gas production is already offline. I hope it doesn’t get really bad but hurricanes are unpredictable monsters so we shall see.

  106. Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2019 at 5:29 pm #

    Jews commemorate the slaughter of the Persians to this day on Purim. From the wiki:

    Unable to annul a formal royal decree, the King instead adds to it, permitting the Jews to join together and destroy any and all of those seeking to oppress them[12][13] (8:1–14). On 13 Adar, Haman’s ten sons and 500 other men are killed in Shushan (9:1–12). Upon hearing of this Esther requests it be repeated the next day, whereupon 300 more men are killed (9:13–15). Over 75,000 people are slaughtered by the Jews, who are careful to take no plunder (9:16–17). Mordecai and Esther send letters throughout the provinces instituting an annual commemoration of the Jewish people’s redemption, in a holiday called Purim (lots) (9:20–28). Ahasuerus remains very powerful and continues his reign, with Mordecai assuming a prominent position in his court (10:1–3).

    JS: They do make and eat of cookies they call “Haman’s ears”. Stranger than any fiction!

    • malthuss July 11, 2019 at 6:42 pm #

      They were the real jews.
      Now the jews are Kazakhs.

  107. Janos Skorenzy July 11, 2019 at 5:50 pm #

    Phys Org:

    A 210,000-year-old skull has been identified as the earliest modern human remains found outside Africa, putting the clock back on mankind’s arrival in Europe by more than 150,000 years, researchers said Wednesday.

    In a startling discovery that changes our understanding of how modern man populated Eurasia, the findings support the idea that Homo sapiens made several, sometimes unsuccessful migrations from Africa over tens of thousands of years.

    Southeast Europe has long been considered a major transport corridor for modern humans from Africa. But until now the earliest evidence of Homo sapiens on the continent dated back only around 50,000 years.

    There has however been a number of discoveries indicating the ancient presence of Neanderthals—an early human cousin—across the continent.

    Two fossilised but badly damaged skulls unearthed in a Greek cave in the 1970s were identified as Neanderthal at the time.

    In findings presented in the journal Nature, an international team of researchers used state-of-the art computer modelling and uranium dating to re-examine the two skulls.

    One of them, named Apidima 2 after the cave in which the pair were found, proved to be 170,000 years old and did indeed belong to a Neanderthal.

    But, to the shock of scientists, the skull named Apidima 1 pre-dated Apidima 2 by as much as 40,000 years, and was determined to be that of a Homo sapiens.

    That makes the skull by far the oldest modern human remains ever discovered on the continent, and older than any known Homo sapiens specimen outside of Africa.

    “It shows that the early dispersal of Homo sapiens out of Africa not only occurred earlier, before 200,000 years ago, but also reached further geographically, all the way to Europe,” Katerina Harvati, a palaeoanthropologist at the Eberhard Karls University of Tuebingen, Germany, told AFP.

    The Apidima 1 partial cranium (right) and its reconstruction from posterior view (middle) and side view (left). The rounded shape of the Apidima 1 cranium a unique feature of modern humans and contrasts sharply with Neanderthals and their ancestors. Credit: Copyright Katerina Harvati, Eberhard Karls University of Tübingen.

    “This is something that we did not suspect before, and which has implications for the population movements of these ancient groups.”

    Apidima 1 lacked classic features associated with Neanderthal skulls, including the distinctive bulge at the back of the head, shaped like hair tied in a bun.

    JS: This got and will get very little press. Why would it since it sends the narrative down the crapper? For all we know, modern man evolved from Homo Erectus in Europe and other places along with Neanderthal. He migrated to Africa, mated with Sub-Humans (the Fall of Man), with the synthesis developing into the Negro. It makes just as much sense as the current paradigm. In other words, we just don’t know the whole story yet. Thinking we do is the same hubris we see in the Global Warming Cult.

    • malthuss July 11, 2019 at 6:32 pm #

      “death by donation” — in other words, ending a people’s lives with their informed consent by taking them to the operating room and, under general anesthesia, opening their chest and abdomen surgically while they are still alive to remove vital organs for transplantation into other people.

    • James Hansen July 11, 2019 at 6:44 pm #

      A very interesting comment. A scientist quest is to look for the truth and as they find more and newer information they add it to the repository that already exists.

      Their search never ends and they never claim to know everything and the last thing they want to do is promote false information.

      Studying 200,000 year old information is not the same as studying present day conditions and when they say CO2 is at 415 ppm you can take that to the bank.

      The GW controversy is political, not scientific. Take away the billions fossil fuel companies spent to cloud the issues and there is no longer a debate. The emails from these companies show they knew they were causing GW in the 80s.

      • BackRowHeckler July 11, 2019 at 7:35 pm #

        James

        How are you going to drive your pickup truck around without ‘Fossil Fuels’?

        Brh

        • FincaInTheMountains July 11, 2019 at 7:39 pm #

          On farts coming from his mouth?

          • James Hansen July 11, 2019 at 8:20 pm #

            Stick to writing your long winded drivel so I can scroll past them.

        • James Hansen July 11, 2019 at 8:28 pm #

          I do not own a pick up truck, my mini van has 4 by 8 capacity, dry concealed storage with tinted windows and access to everything with 5 doors.
          I am the only guy at the lumber yard without a pickup!

          I never said we should end fossil fuels.

  108. FincaInTheMountains July 11, 2019 at 7:28 pm #

    Jews commemorate the slaughter of the Persians to this day on Purim.

    You could sharpen an axe on Janos’ head, but he will still repeat that the Jewish holiday Purim is evidence of the antiquity of the world Jewish conspiracy described in the “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”.

    • malthuss July 12, 2019 at 9:21 am #

      Exodus states the joos killed all the children in the walled cities that they ‘took’.

  109. JohnAZ July 11, 2019 at 7:30 pm #

    Well, it has gone full circle.

    The “Squad” headed up by AOC has just called Nancy Pelosi a racist!

    Whatever happened to people keeping their eyes and ears open and their mouths shut during their learning curve time. Nancy has a real problem with the press. They cover these young punks like the are a reincarnation of Jesus Christ.

    Be tough, Nancy, your party’s future depends on your handling of these people.

    Remember Hillary and Bernie. As bad as Hillary might have been, Bernie is a Communist and hates the American culture.

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    • James Hansen July 11, 2019 at 7:41 pm #

      What is Trump going to do in 2020? Increase the military budget, another round of tax cuts for the elite and cut Medicare by a Trillion, SS by 50 Billion and decimate Medicaid.

      SS is the peoples money, taking money from SS is just plain stealing.

      Bernie might be a Communist but he would be a better president than Trump any day.

      • FincaInTheMountains July 11, 2019 at 7:48 pm #

        Bernie is not a Communist, he is not even a Socialist anymore.

        Being through Hillary hands he is a broken old man.

        Sorry, Bernie, I truly am.

      • Exscotticus July 12, 2019 at 12:33 am #

        >>> another round of tax cuts for the elite

        Wow I’m part of the elite? Cool!

        >>> SS is the peoples money, taking money from SS is just plain stealing.

        Oh you mean doing what Obama wanted to do is stealing? Well then you certainly wouldn’t like what former president Bill Clinton wanted to do.

        You really shouldn’t post when you’re having a TDS attack. Just take your meds and wait for a moment of clarity.

        • James Hansen July 12, 2019 at 10:40 am #

          You are the king of What About, you can never come up with a straight answer, only deflections.

          You are right up there with the most cowardly Conservatives I have ever debated.

          The words yes, no, I believe, I think, will never pass your lips.

      • benr July 12, 2019 at 9:56 am #

        Another gross distortion of fact and bloviated opinion.

        • James Hansen July 12, 2019 at 10:18 am #

          Benr, first off I believe you owe me an apology. Second, it is very easy to look up Trumps 2020 budget and intentions.

          Was your mouth hanging open when I posted those pictures?

  110. FincaInTheMountains July 11, 2019 at 7:36 pm #

    To begin with, the Book of Esther does not tell us about the conflict between the Persians (Aryans) and the Jews, it tells about the providential, age-old friendship of religious Jews with Aryans (Zoroastrians) against the common enemy – Amalek (Satanist) Haman.

    And this is written openly in the Bible, including that the first Messiah (savior of the Jewish people) was the great leader of the Aryans – Persian (Iranian) King Cyrus the Great, a Zoroastrian by religious affiliation.

    As you can see, everything is exactly the opposite and one can only regret that Janos writes about Purim without having read the Book of Esther.

  111. deetrump July 11, 2019 at 7:39 pm #

    “What our perfumed betters are declining to elaborate on for reasons known best to themselves is how to deal with this mess.” –volodya

    Mr. Trump is not the least bit confused about how to deal with it. He says ICE agents are ready to arrest targeted people this weekend. ICE will also arrest whoever happens to be on the scene, even if they weren’t the target of the raids. These so-called “collateral” deportations could include entire families of active duty military personnel. Officials said those arrested will be held in detention centers before being deported.

    • FincaInTheMountains July 11, 2019 at 7:44 pm #

      Dulles plan is purposeful destruction of the culture of society.

      Media and internet trolls’ lies play an auxiliary role.

      • Ol' Scratch July 12, 2019 at 6:53 am #

        And from whom did the Dulles Plan originate? Put that bong down for a minute, think about it, and reply truthfully, if you still can.

        The Devil agrees that Zionist media owners and internet shills are and always have been my best advocates. They’re not terribly creative, but they’re unparalleled at simply repeating lies over and over again until they’re accepted as truths. And when it comes to lying, that’s always been my best tactic.

        • FincaInTheMountains July 12, 2019 at 7:43 am #

          The Dulles Plan is a “know-how” of the Black Project since God knows when, at least since the Punic Wars.

  112. James Hansen July 11, 2019 at 9:36 pm #

    Wow, Volvo is considering moving out of Sweden due to violent immigrants.

    https://www.rt.com/news/463964-volvo-high-crime-rate-sweden/

    • BackRowHeckler July 11, 2019 at 10:24 pm #

      Well, Sweden has declared itself as ‘the first feminist nation’, with a determined ‘feminist foreign policy’.

      A lot of high hopes and aspirations for international peace and understanding — a new world based upon love led by woman only — how its shaping up tho, as a practical matter, is millions of black Africans and Muslims pouring into Sweden thru open borders, raping and murdering Swedish girls, burning cars by the thousands, tearing up ancient Jewish cemeteries, draining the vaunted welfare system, and generally raising hell and wrecking the country. Everything’s cool tho, women rule. You go, girls!

      Brh

      • James Hansen July 11, 2019 at 11:15 pm #

        What were they thinking? I feel bad for them, I read the rape rates went through the roof.

        • benr July 11, 2019 at 11:17 pm #

          From Viking conquerors to limp wristed panty wastes in five hundred short years.

          • James Hansen July 11, 2019 at 11:46 pm #

            More like a 1000 years.

          • GreenAlba July 12, 2019 at 7:52 am #

            Did you prefer them when they were murdering, raping and pillaging, benr? They did some seriously jawdropping stuff round this way.

          • FincaInTheMountains July 12, 2019 at 8:06 am #

            Vikings were not rapists.

            The cornerstone myth of the Viking epos was the story of a woman who killed a Viking who tried to rape her, but his comrades for her courage awarded her with the property of the deceased.

          • GreenAlba July 12, 2019 at 8:01 am #

            You will continue to ‘read’ that it is, though. Internet memes are even less biodegradable than plastic shopping bags.

          • BackRowHeckler July 12, 2019 at 8:36 am #

            Apparently, Swedish girls and women are reluctant to report sexual assault to the authorities, which put them at risk for being charged with ‘racism’, if the rapist was an esteemed ‘Refugee’, (which most are)

            Do you think we are stupid?

            Brh

          • GreenAlba July 12, 2019 at 8:57 am #

            brh

            “Do you think we are stupid?”

            No, I think you are biased, a priori.

            “Apparently, Swedish girls and women are reluctant to report sexual assault to the authorities, which put them at risk for being charged with ‘racism’,

            Of course… You’ll ‘read’ that on the interwebz too.

            Apparently, men didn’t land on the moon.

            Apparently a plane didn’t crash into the Pentagon.

            Apparently, there are no-go areas in London, Birmingham and Manchester (but you could ask Boris about that and he might call your ignorance ‘stupefying’, especially since you’ve actually suggested it yourself, brh).

            I have sympathies with refugees for their situation, but if one of them molested me or stole my handbag I’d be down at the police station before you could say ‘some people will believe anything’. And I’m not going to insult Swedish women by suggesting they’re dafter than I am.

            As a rule, though, if it were left to me, I’d say that any refugee (properly) found guilty of a violent crime should be sent back where they came from. Pour encourager les autres, as well as just because it seems entirely justified to me.

          • GreenAlba July 12, 2019 at 8:59 am #

            Italics intended to stop after the French bit…

          • GreenAlba July 12, 2019 at 9:11 am #

            The situation in the UK:

            G. Revoking Refugee Status

            If information becomes available after asylum is granted that there are reasonable grounds that the individual is a danger to the security of the UK, or the community if they have been convicted of a serious crime, refugee or humanitarian protection status can be cancelled or revoked in accordance with article 1F of the Convention.[84] Leave to enter or remain should typically be refused if it is undesirable to allow the person to remain in the UK due to his or her conduct, character, or associations, or because the person represents a threat to the national security of the UK.[85] Individuals who are refused asylum because of the above grounds are prioritized for enforcement action and removal.[86]

            https://www.loc.gov/law/help/refugee-law/unitedkingdom.php#Asylum

          • malthuss July 12, 2019 at 9:22 am #

            Is Congo the rape capital?
            Those billboards– DO NOT RAPE BABIES.

      • FincaInTheMountains July 12, 2019 at 7:45 am #

        Only Russians resisted, that is why they hate Russia so much.

  113. FincaInTheMountains July 12, 2019 at 7:41 am #

    Rammstein and Political Science about the Dulles Plan in the USA

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iaxDxHUWP8

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqBrw3rQvKo

  114. FincaInTheMountains July 12, 2019 at 8:41 am #

    Vikings were not rapists

    Pierre Plantard expressed a very interesting hypothesis, according to which the boundary between eras is the so-called Cutting of the elm in 1188, when hatred between King Henry II of England and King Philip II of France reached such limits that the latter has cut down the 400 year-old elm, under which since the times of Rollo traditionally met the French kings and the Norman dukes to resolve controversial issues.

    This was perceived by Henry II as the annulment of the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte, according to which the Vikings of Rollo received the coast of Normandy in exchange for defending the mouth of the Seine against other Vikings.

    The fact is that after the conquest of England by William the Conqueror, the Norman dukes were also English kings, and a very strange situation was created, in which another much more powerful king was a vassal of the French king.

    Nevertheless, the English kings more or less complied with their obligations under the Treaty of Saint-Clair-sur-Epte, including because this treaty defined at least some stability throughout Western Europe, since it was a precedent for many other treaties between Franks and Vikings, which despised the Franks because of the difference of cultures, but had possessions in all states that were fragments of the First Reich of Charlemagne, and were forced to negotiate with them.

    Moreover, the reason for the mutual hatred and contempt of the Normans and Salian Franks was firstly the different interpretations of the same religion that the Normans and the Franks professed before they became Christians, and secondly the different ways and motivations of Christianization.

    The Franks (also they are Germans), were already smacked in the head on questions of blood, or genetics, because of the strangeness of their laws of inheritance, for example, they made a big difference between “native-born” and adopted children, as well as illegitimate children.

    In addition, violence against the women of the defeated was considered by the Franks to be mandatory and almost the main part of the victory, and the cornerstone myth of the Viking epos was the story of a woman who killed a Viking who tried to rape her, but his comrades for her courage rewarded her with the property of the murdered.

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    • GreenAlba July 12, 2019 at 9:20 am #

      https://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/dna-study-reveals-fate-of-irish-women-taken-by-vikings-as-slaves-to-iceland-1.3521206

      I guess it’s not rape once you’ve taken them into slavery first?

      • malthuss July 12, 2019 at 9:26 am #

        White slaves, history scrubbed them.
        In USA all we get is,

        reparations
        MLK–aka Mark King
        Mandela [yes, Mr necklaces]
        Hate Crimes

        disgusting, eh?

        • GreenAlba July 12, 2019 at 9:45 am #

          It hasn’t been scrubbed from history – it’s easy to find if you’re interested. Don’t talk nonsense.

          Since it’s black slavery that happened primarily in your country, it’s only logical that that’s what takes precedence in discussions and in people’s minds, especially since the descendants of your slaves are still there and are more noticeable than white slaves long since interbred with e.g. Arabs, or black slaves in black countries.

          But here’s an article about black-on-black slavery in Nigeria for you, this very month, in the New Yorker, so you won’t need to feel so hard done by. I haven’t read it yet – I just happened to notice it yesterday.

          https://www.newyorker.com/news/dispatch/the-descendants-of-slaves-in-nigeria-fight-for-equality

    • GreenAlba July 12, 2019 at 9:22 am #

      And your anecdote at the end doesn’t prove they didn’t rape, but possibly just that they respected brave women who fought back.

      • FincaInTheMountains July 12, 2019 at 9:26 am #

        Your article does not mention word “rape” once, It is all your speculations.

        • GreenAlba July 12, 2019 at 9:35 am #

          So they stole women into slavery to dig ditches and left the men behind?

      • FincaInTheMountains July 12, 2019 at 9:37 am #

        And what you call an “anecdote” is an important cultural prove that for Vikings violence against women was a shameful act, unlike for Franks.

        • GreenAlba July 12, 2019 at 9:48 am #

          It doesn’t prove that at all. In fact I’m aware that in Viking culture and Middle Ages culture in general, rape was considered a heinous crime, but that doesn’t mean it was necessarily so when committed against your enemies. Your story/anecdote/example may, as I said, only mean that they respected a woman who fought back. It may not mean that – we can’t possibly know.

          But you haven’t explained what they stole the women for when they took them back to Iceland. Do you think they arrived onshore in 10th century England out of the blue and proposed to them? And why did they just take the women?

        • GreenAlba July 12, 2019 at 9:50 am #

          The Anglo-Saxons, though, were far worse than the Vikings.

          • GreenAlba July 12, 2019 at 9:51 am #

            Allegedly…

          • FincaInTheMountains July 12, 2019 at 10:05 am #

            Anglo-Saxons, at one point, before the conquest by William the Bastard, were part of the Orthodox Viking Empire, as well as Russians – read Hamlet.

          • GreenAlba July 12, 2019 at 10:13 am #

            “read Hamlet”

            Read it in school, thanks.

            http://sciencenordic.com/anglo-saxons-were-worse-vikings

          • Q. Shtik July 12, 2019 at 11:12 am #

            Anglo-Saxons, at one point, before the conquest by William the Bastard, – Finca

            ============

            In Deadwood he was known as William the Cocksucker.

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