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CBS-News carried another bucket of muddy water for the coup team Sunday night with a lead 60 Minutes agit-prop story on Maria Butina, an ambitious Russian cutie who worked the American NRA circuit in the most public manner imaginable to make herself into a sex-bomb celebrity at the exact moment in history when the US Deep State wished to reinforce the fantasy, as Lesley Stahl put it, that “Russia was interfering in our electoral process.”

Of course, Ms. Stahl and her shifty producers left out half the story: how Maria Butina was manipulated by her FBI-handler and sometime-boyfriend, Patrick Byrne, the former Overstock.com CEO who had been employed by the Bureau over the years on other undercover assignments. They didn’t mention him or seek to understand his role in the operation. But they gave plenty of air-time to the DOJ lawyer, John C Demers, who prosecuted Ms. Butina, and never bothered to ask Demers why Butina was not charged with espionage — perhaps because nothing remotely like that occurred.

How media giants like Ms. Stahl can keep mouthing this malarkey designed to stoke a new cold war is one of the great mysteries of our national psychology these days. You’d think they’d learned something from the train wreck of the Mueller Investigation, the Brett Kavanaugh fiasco, and the current debacle of Adam Schiff’s imploding Ukraine whistleblower caper — namely, that spouting lies will eventually get you found-out and disgraced.

But the coup team is now dangerously stuck tripling and quadrupling down on its fairy tale narrative as the reckoning of its dark deeds approaches and its star players await their turns on the witness stand. Half the country has been waiting patiently for authorities-of-standing to put an end to this Hitchcockian campaign of seditious fog that has driven us close to the brink of a second civil war. That half of the country has actually been reading the evidence of this treason and sedition — underwritten by Hillary Clinton and her allies — on the back-channels of the Internet. None of that evidence has been posted through the main media outlets wholly owned by the coup team, gospel to the other half of America, and soon millions of credulous bystanders who got high on three years of CIA-issued RussiaGate Kool-Aid will get the surprise of their lives when they discover how deeply they were played.

The CIA and the FBI are in a fight for their lives now. The evidence shows pretty clearly that these rogue agencies conducted all the election “meddling” of 2016 and that the RussiaGate hysteria was an engineered smokescreen to hide their tracks and cover their asses when the certainty of a Hillary election triumph nauseatingly resolved unfavorably in the cold, gray dawn of 11/8/16. Despite the chatter about an “insurance policy,” they were quite unprepared for the exposure that loomed.

They also badly underestimated the resources of what is now a very sturdy alt.media which has managed to weave the real story of what happened over the past three years into a shocking tapestry of massive subversion and treachery. A big part of the true story is how amazingly incompetent the RussiaGate coupsters were. Did they really believe they could conceal the ties between their agencies and Glenn Simpson’s Fusion GPS operation, and its feckless front man, British ex-spy Christopher Steele, and the whole outfit’s connection to Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee? Did they suppose they could pass off Stephan Halper and Joseph Mifsud as Russian agents when the two have consorted with US and allied intelligence for decades? The US Department of Defense even holds Mr. Halper’s million-dollar pay stubs and Mr. Mifsud appears in photographs of every Western cloak-and-dagger cocktail get-together of spook officialdom for the last twenty years.

The latest, and most desperate gambit is the UkraineGate whistleblower, a CIA employee blatantly playing errand-boy for his mentor John Brennan and deeply tied to 2016 election shenanigans emanating from Ukraine, featuring his former employer, ex-Vice-President Joe Biden. This shadowy figure, pegged as Eric Ciaramella, 33, may shortly find himself in a grand jury chamber answering for his role in this charade. Ciaramella has just been hung out to dry by his sponsor, Rep. Adam Schiff in a desperate attempt to dissociate himself from the huggermugger within his House Intel Committee that preceded the falsely blown whistle.

It’s not an overstatement to say that many of the figures behind this gigantic web of lies and deceit ought to answer charges up to and including treason. The question is whether Messers Barr & Durham have the cojones to cater the banquet of consequences that this huge cast of characters should be made to feast from. Another question is whether these desperate characters and the agencies they represent will go all the way now and attempt to enlist the military brass in an outright overthrow of the executive. There are already intimations of this. It would be answered by the kind of civil violence that has broken out in other parts of world where other Deep States have worn out their welcome — and their legitimacy.

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773 Responses to “How Far Will They Go?”

  1. Beryl of Oyl November 4, 2019 at 10:33 am #

    60 Minutes, back in 1990, suspended Andy Rooney for remarks “attributed to” him, which he said he did not make.
    More recently, they set up their own reporter, Lara Logan, when she became an inconvenient woman.
    They haven’t been a reliable investigative news source for quite some time.

    • K-Dog November 4, 2019 at 10:49 am #

      I like 60 minutes Australia. That is pretty good.

    • venuspluto67 November 4, 2019 at 1:01 pm #

      That Lesley Stahl interview doesn’t sound a whole different than Savannah Guthrie’s interview of the Covington Catholic student Nick Sandmann where Guthrie asserted “There’s something aggressive about…standing there.” (WTF??!!)

      • abbybwood November 4, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

        Don’t forget. He was also SMILING!!!

        If he had just wiped that shit-eating grin off his damn face!

  2. ellipsis November 4, 2019 at 10:36 am #

    Great post Jim, but this “civil war” of which you speak will be confined to the DC beltway and it’s immediate environs. It really doesn’t concern the rest of us, who are all no doubt screwed no matter who comes out on top. Rest assured, the Wall St boys and their various enablers won’t miss a beat either way.

    • ellipsis November 4, 2019 at 10:44 am #

      Watching the interview now. Butina was quite the fetching young lass in her earlier years.

      • K-Dog November 4, 2019 at 1:15 pm #

        And give anybody with a Hunter Thompson fixation a hard on.

        And there is more.

        • BackRowHeckler November 4, 2019 at 9:57 pm #


          Are you an NRA member?

          • K-Dog November 5, 2019 at 2:10 am #

            I prefer the drugs and rock’n roll part of the persona.

      • shotho November 4, 2019 at 2:20 pm #

        Ellipsis. I think you’re onto something. It’s hard for me to see how anything will really change if Barr reveals and prosecutes anything and anybody. The budget will continue to go up a trillion dollars a year; the health care system will continue to break the bank of patients and keep them sick in the process; the education system will continue to not educate; the transportation system will continue to only transport cattle; Wall Street will continue to grift. And the most degenerate population in the history of mankind will do nothing as long as the telly continues to operate and the fast food joints continue to make them fat. I find our host, as well spoken as he is, incredibly optimistic. Incidentally, I am in Croatia and have not heard the words Trump and Pelosi for almost a week now.

    • JohnAZ November 4, 2019 at 12:02 pm #


      How do you think the Blue blocks would reaction to a Liberal coup in DC. The west coast, Illinois, Colorado, and the North East all have huge vested interests in keeping the Liberal Deep State dream alive. It is difficult to imagine how the various areas of the country will react to an attempted coup in DC.

      There is a group of GOP senators that are putting a plan together to decentralize the civil service sector of DC. Once the impeachment idiocy is over, you can bet the Deep State will fight this tooth and nail.

      The two I know about is sending Agriculture to Kansas City, and the BLM to Grand Junction,Colorado. Others are in the wings.

      My revolutionary idea is to take the national Capitol stone by stone and move everything away from Foggy Bottom and move it to a central location like KC. Remove the East Coast bias that shapes the place. It was built where it is because it was the center of the original colonies. It no longer is the center of everything.

      Sure would put some construction folks in work for a few years. Build it exactly the same as the mall and environs now. It would cost a small fortune but compared to our spending now, not that much.

      • Plennie_Wingo November 4, 2019 at 12:23 pm #

        Or even better, mount the whole mess on wheels so it can be towed around to the exact geopolitical center as it changes.

        If that happens to be in the middle of a swamp, then how apropos…

        • Iananna November 8, 2019 at 4:07 am #

          I was about to endorse JohnAZ’s suggestion but you suggested improvement is even better.
          It could be called the Rolling Blunder show.

      • DrTomSchmidt November 4, 2019 at 1:31 pm #

        Moving federal bureaucracies away from DC would do a lot. You don’t want to move them to too many red states; they turned VA purple, now blue.

        But I think defense in Texas; Ag in KC; State in Pierre, SD, would go a long way towards helping the rest of the country. As an added bonus, it would destroy property values in the 10 of the 11 richest counties in the USA that surround DC.

      • abbybwood November 4, 2019 at 1:57 pm #

        It if we did that, none of these jerks would bother running for Congress! Why would they want to share trains with all the cattle cars heading to slaughter? After all, none of their favorite haughty watering holes would follow…

        I think you are on to something with this idea!!! I like it!!

      • williamwilliams November 5, 2019 at 8:37 pm #

        >>>My revolutionary idea is to take the national Capitol stone by stone and move everything away from Foggy Bottom and move it to a central location like KC.

        I say we nuke the entire site from orbit.
        It IS the only way to be sure.

        • Iananna November 8, 2019 at 4:12 am #

          “They mostly come at night. Mostly.” – the other Newt.

  3. K-Dog November 4, 2019 at 10:44 am #

    The coup team. That is funny. What is more funny is how all this nonsense is backfiring on the entire political apparatus.

    A man who does not even pay his bills manages to become president and Potemkin efforts to impeach him become so ridiculous that the half of the country who imagined themselves Democrats realize now they have been played for years. Trump is going to get re-elected because the truth is he star of the plutocratic team. That is the one and only team that really controls America. Democrats and republicans are the shirts and skins of American Political Football. Divisions between parties are now imaginary. And the pussy grabbing guy who does what he wants is the perfect expression of American zeitgeist. A lot of people would like to be like Trump so afraid care they to even take a dump. For such getting rid of Trump is more scary than getting rid of him. People who actually believe in something can”t agree.

    • K-Dog November 4, 2019 at 10:45 am #

      For such getting rid of Trump is more scary than keeping him

      • Beryl of Oyl November 4, 2019 at 10:52 am #

        I was wondering what that meant. I thought it was me.

      • K-Dog November 4, 2019 at 10:54 am #

        I should not have made the original comment. I hit submit before I fixed my errors. But I’ll blame my itchy paw on Trump. If it were not for him I’d not have embarrassed myself. All his fault. I bet a lot of people feel like me. Trump is animated embarrassment and spreads it around like soft butter.

        • K-Dog November 4, 2019 at 11:00 am #

          And’hespreads it around like soft butter. On it goes.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 4, 2019 at 11:29 am #

          TDS. Medium stage. That you can joke about it doesn’t change it. People joke about their cancer too. Prognosis? Uncertain. Cure? Unlikely.

        • JohnAZ November 4, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

          You sound like the MSM. Any problem at all, sit around the editorial table and spin it to blame Trump. If Trump was as omnipresent to cause all the stuff that is blamed on him, he would not be President, he would be God.

          You show your susceptibility to media BS.

          • K-Dog November 4, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

            And you don’t know a joke when you see one.

  4. Robert White November 4, 2019 at 10:54 am #

    Wokesterism has landed on the shores of Clusterfuck Nation sporting a flag of The Duck’s face & wig as symbols of heraldry
    for a NYC Real Estate scion gone rogue with public debt.

    As Deutsche Bank stock tumbles into the netherworld of Chapter 11 bankruptcy we will evidence yet more of the wokesterist crowd clamouring for allegiance to their goals for control over America as The Duck & his progeny are outed for contempt over due process.

    Democrats have nothing to fear over the Republican hair on fire crowd of screaming greater fools that have never understood that The Duck is running out of time on the public dime.

    In less than one year we will evidence how truly corrupt The Duck’s gambit for control has become for the Western world & Banking System.

    America should just declare bankruptcy and get on with life in the third world banana republic that The Duck built for you, and your family.

    P.S. Typo in the first paragraph, Jim.


    • JohnAZ November 4, 2019 at 12:17 pm #

      Fifty plus percent of the Debt has nothing to do with Trump. Obama doubled the debt himself. Liberals spend and spend, look at what the 2020 candidates are proposing. Good lord, 52 trillion more for health care. Insanity.

      Quit using the Duck as your whipping boy, at least he is spending for what the government is for, defense.

      Trump reduced taxes which increased the debt. Definitely better than increasing taxes and immediately spending the money on boondoggles. The government does nothing to expand the economy, individuals do, so give the capital to the public not the nincompoops in DC.

      • Robert White November 4, 2019 at 12:41 pm #

        Obama did not address the debt & deficit. The Duck exacerbated the conundrum by the largesse of his egregious tax cut for Corporatists that never invested the tax cut into R&D or new hires for employment. The United States of America is wholly irresponsible when it comes to accounting & financial risk taking behaviour.

        I was raised by a Chartered Accountant that worked for Senior Rulings National Revenue CANADA in the Oil, Mines, & Resource Taxation Department.

        Screw the irresponsible & incompetent Government of the United States of America. Fuck them and their risky behaviour. I was NOT raised to be irresponsible like the United States of America when it comes to Finance.



        • JohnAZ November 4, 2019 at 12:54 pm #

          The Corporations spent their windfall, giving bonuses, raises, new hires, paying off debt, buying their stock back, what corporations do with windfalls.

          Much to your chagrin, obviously, is the fact that if the world’s economy tanks, the Phoenix rising from the ashes will be the USA.

          • Robert White November 4, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

            Chapter 11 will not yield anything but ashes. No Phoenix will manifest from nuclear winter.


        • shotho November 4, 2019 at 2:27 pm #

          RW, you are correct. There is enough treason to spread around concerning our national bankruptcy. Why concentrate on only one scoundrel or party? They are all culpable

          • Robert White November 4, 2019 at 2:57 pm #

            Elizabeth Warren has a solid plan compared to The Duck flying by the seat of his pants-on-fire lies, ‘fake news’, & impeachment.

            Mike Tyson famously said that ‘everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face’ but The Duck failed to learn that lesson in life thinking that he could never be punched in the face metaphorically by opposition punching him in the kisser for the KO round & title shot at helm.

            More than half of America wants to punch Trump in the kisser by now.

            Recession will doom his candidacy & incumbency status just as it did for Tricky Dick.


          • Nightowl November 4, 2019 at 4:01 pm #

            Elizabeth Warren, fake news in quotes (as though nearly every instance can’t be verified within a few hours), and talk of half of America wanting to punch Trump.

            McResistance is so punk.

          • benr November 6, 2019 at 2:42 pm #


            A solid plan to dump 2 million jobs and cost 52 trillion over 10 years with ZERO way to fund it.

            What planet do you live on if you believe anything coming out of lil lizzies mouth?
            No answers just more BS give away programs and you consider yourself one of the smarter people in the room?

            With posts like that I would give your IQ to be around tepid tap water.

    • Epicur November 4, 2019 at 8:52 pm #

      “America should just declare bankruptcy and get on with life in the third world banana republic that The Duck built for you, and your family.”

      Your anger is misplaced.

      I have no great love for Mr. Trump (or any politician), but laying the present situation at his feet (or hanging that albatross around his neck, to mix metaphors) is nonsense. We have been economically doomed for a long, long time and there is no person living or to be born who can forestall that bankruptcy.

      Our present global “civilization” (and its population) is unsustainable, but it is the logical outgrowth of all that came before.

      “If you can keep your head while all about you…”

      • Robert White November 5, 2019 at 3:37 pm #

        The Duck prompted Fed Chair Powell to lower Central Bank rates thereby rendering the United States of America insolvent and prepped for Chapter 11. Powell, and Fed Governors knew all along that they should never, ever, cross the Rubicon into NIRP & ZIRP unknown sub-terrestrial netherworlds & Hegelian Death Spirals.

        I am keep my head about me when I state that the USA under The Duck’s mismanagement is wholly doomed to insolvency & market mayhem. The Corporate Farm insolvency has reached epic proportion with wholesale parallels to the 80’s USA Farm Crisis detailed throughout Finance Intel blogosphere.

        Screw The Duck, man.


        • Epicur November 5, 2019 at 4:04 pm #

          The US is trapped in a situation where the FED must expand debt super-exponentially or allow a collapse of the world economy, Trump or no Trump. Any attempt to stabilize debt will pull the plug.

          No politician, no bureaucrat, no member of the FED will pull the plug voluntarily. They will continue to stimulate economic activity to expand debt at a super-exponential rate (increase at an increasing rate) until some exogenous event causes the collapse.

          This seed was planted long ago, it is only now ripening.

          Go to the St Louis Fed FRED data, put TCMDO in the query box (Total Credit Market Debt Obligations), after that graph comes up you can add GDP to the graph and edit the graph by making the left axis logarithmic.

          The logarithmic curve that is concave UP (Debt) is increasing at a super-exponential rate for most of its history, a curve that is concave DOWN (GDP) is increasing at a decreasing rate. Any time the Debt curve backs off its increasing rate the GDP curve approaches collapse.

          The Fed either stimulates the economy or allows collapse, that is the dilemma Nixon faced in 1971, that is the dilemma we face now. Trump or no Trump.

          • Epicur November 5, 2019 at 4:10 pm #

            “No politician, no bureaucrat, no member of the FED will pull the plug voluntarily.”

            I should say, no ELECTED politician, or bureaucrat or FED member who depends on ELECTED politicians…

            After the emergency is formally declared TPTB will have to pull the plug, but there will be pain (and eventually blood).

          • Epicur November 5, 2019 at 4:20 pm #

            BTW, if you look at the debt curve you can see where Paul Krugman got his $16 trillion figure in 2008 when he said that was how much the FED should be stimulating the economy (Trump is a piker by comparison). The $16 trillion is, not co-incidentally, what it would have taken to put the the debt curve back on track.

          • Epicur November 5, 2019 at 4:32 pm #

            BTW2, I do agree that Trump is an idiot for thinking he has a solution to our problems, but he’s not special in that sense.

          • Robert White November 5, 2019 at 6:30 pm #

            I don’t disagree with anything you have said except the ‘Trump or no Trump’ part where I prefer the No Trump category, frankly.

            The world needs a stable currency which must be a basket of currencies given USA, and global Debt-to-GDP.

            Macroeconomics has not gone over to Behavioural Economics or Econophysics as of yet. When they smarten up as crypto-engineering slaps some sense into them en masse we will start to see quantum mechanics used. When that happens macroeconomics will undergo a sea change & paradigmatic shift towards a possible future, or probable thermonuclear hot kinetic conflagration.

            Entropy is enemy to Fed Fractional Reserve susperstructure.

            Thermodynamic efficiency of money & labour needs to be applied equitably. Current Finance inefficiency is thermodynamically off-equilibrium & pre-Lehman Moment market equilibrium.

            Denial of the fact that the USA has entered Quantitative Easing Four-QE-4 is evidenced in the overnight REPO liquidity conundrum & CB infusions of cash.

            The Duck is the guy that Powell is catering to. The monetary heroin junkies all follow Dr. Feelgood and his monetary heroin variable & fixed rate schemes.

            If The Duck had not pushed Powell into rate cuts the CB would still have a leg to stand on as opposed to not.

            P.S. You are one smart cookie on Finance.


          • hmuller November 6, 2019 at 1:44 am #

            Robert White, I agree the USA is well past the point of no return regarding debt collapse.

            However, I think “a basket of currencies” is just a basket of turds since other countries are in the same boat – inflating their fiat currencies. $17 trillion worth of negative yield govt. bonds in Europe and Japan are evidence of a terminally ill world financial system as the CB’s just print up the electronic money to buy the govt. debt..

            Precious metals and tangible property will weather the crash best. But who knows what you’ll be able to keep from thieving gunmen – to include government tax collectors. Nearly all politicians believe taking what is not theirs is the noblest activity on earth.

            I think crypto-currencies are today’s tulip mania. But at least when they crashed in price you could admire your tulips and smell them. How can you smell the vanished electrons of something which never existed except inside a computer?

            Yes, I’m too old to ‘understand cryptos’. When I hear people talk of how we’ll all get rich off something that requires no work – I think “scam”. We’ve lived in a grifter world so long, these people think that’s the way the universe naturally functions and always will.

        • devon44 November 7, 2019 at 1:09 pm #

          Ahh, I get it – you’ve come up with a new nickname for Trump – it’s the Duck!

          Herp Derp!!! Sooo clever! I bet you make some dank memes too, following Warren’s ‘meme-making instructions.’

          I don’t like Trump either, but you’re embarrassing yourself. Your TDS has taken your sense of humor, your sense of perspective, and your sense of decency.

      • Epicur November 6, 2019 at 10:36 am #

        @ Robert White November 5, 2019 at 6:30 pm #

        I think we would agree on much, but there is one thing I would like to clarify. I have no desire to defend Donald Trump. My point is that if you (or anyone) lets anger at the situation occupy your mind you are wasting mental energy and distracting yourself from the task at hand (survival). The same is said for “bargaining”, i.e. seeking solutions for the unsolvable.

        I know no one likes unsolicited advice, but I think you (or anyone) would do well to move on to acceptance and deal with your personal survival in a more focused manner.


  5. lost-in-north-dakota November 4, 2019 at 10:57 am #

    Quoting Mr. K:The CIA and the FBI are in a fight for their lives now. The evidence shows pretty clearly that these rogue agencies conducted all the election “meddling” of 2016……

    My question, where can one read a summary of this version of events. Mr. K alludes to this part or that part, but someone please point me to an article that lays out the case against the FBI and CIA. Thanks.

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    • Nightowl November 4, 2019 at 11:01 am #

      Use the Interwebz and figure it out. This “spoon feed” attitude is why half the public have the critical thinking skills of a bag of hair.

    • K-Dog November 4, 2019 at 11:05 am #

      The problem is that the FBI can suppress any article they want. Pass a homeless man on the street with his wobbly shopping cart of earthly possessions. Going against the FBI, that could be you. Without the shopping cart.

      • elysianfield November 4, 2019 at 1:22 pm #

        “Without the shopping cart.”

        …nor a window to throw it out of….

    • Beryl of Oyl November 4, 2019 at 11:22 am #

      You could go to a site called Conservative Treehouse and ask someone there for a link to a summary.

      • K-Dog November 5, 2019 at 2:15 am #



        Just down the page:

        Lengthy Interview – Lee Smith: From Spygate to Impeachment “The Plot Against The President”…


    • JohnAZ November 4, 2019 at 12:20 pm #

      Just wait. Because of the stalling that the Mueller fiasco did, the real dirt is not going to be exposed by three folks, Horowitz, Barr and Burham. If these three survive, the Deep State will go down fighting.

    • rackslope November 4, 2019 at 1:30 pm #

      Here’s a good start. Much, much more out there.


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  6. BC_EE November 4, 2019 at 11:01 am #

    I’ll take Jim’s points on face value for the moment to highlight an apparent contradiction. An observation on historical narrative. Let’s assume the facts support the “coup” theory. Then why is it so hard to understand Kennedy was not assassinated by one lone gunman (from the wrong direction with a cheap skanky rifle – and if he were such a terrific sniper why would he purchase such a poor rifle – I wouldn’t hunt gophers with it).

    Does current events put things in perspective for those “allergic to conspiracy theories”?

    Yup, I went there but don’t let it detract from the argument of the essay. Back to our regular programming…

    • K-Dog November 4, 2019 at 11:16 am #

      The issue is ‘the grand conspiracy‘. A conspiracy so large which involves so many people that leaks are inevitable. Only in a culture dedicated to the reification of fantasies could such a conspiracy possibly ever succeed. For such things to happen half the country would have to be out to lunch and living in alternate realities. So as you say, — Back to our regular programming…

      • capt spaulding November 4, 2019 at 11:46 am #

        It’s funny how all of the REALLY BAD Deep State guys who are out to get Trump are all Republicans, including Muller. It just goes to show that there’s a ton of people out there willing to masquerade all of their lives as Republicans, just so they can make it look good when they trash a guy like Trump.

        • JohnAZ November 4, 2019 at 12:36 pm #

          The top priority of people in DC is the preservation of their “Little World on the Potomac”. Ie the Deep State. Party is secondary.

          Trump is the leader of the populist part of the GOP, trying to wrest power away from the Deep State. The two parties in DC are meaningless, only the Deep State.

          Much of our power as voters controlling the Federal government is at risk now. Is it soon to be:

          “People of the government, for the government and by the government”. Could very well happen.

          • Epicur November 4, 2019 at 8:37 pm #

            “Could very well happen.”

            Fait accompli. (Accomplished fact)

          • hmuller November 6, 2019 at 5:33 pm #

            The capt often makes snide little comments which he thinks undermine someone’s position. In fact, he’s only showing how little he understands that perspective. Sometimes I wonder if the stupid things he says are all tongue-in-cheek.

      • abbybwood November 4, 2019 at 12:09 pm #

        Let’s just imagine for a moment that Jill Stein had NOT been running as a third party progressive in 2016 and that those magical 78,000 votes in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania HAD gone to Clinton.

        She would have shown up at the Javits Center on election night, the glass ceiling would have been shattered and all her bad deeds and those of her Democrat minions (including Obama and Power in their unmaskings) would forever remain their dirty big secret. Imagine the last three years without TDS in our families and with our “former” friends!

        We would never have known of the Sztrok/Page emails and texts, of the illegal spying that went on. Manafort and Flynn and Popoudopolous and Carter Page would be living their lives. Nobody would care about Trump’s tax returns and he would still be a resident of New York. Melanie could have gone back to her NY life and poor Barron would continue to be in schools with all the rich little friends he grew up with.

        Probably Syria would be another failed state by now just like Libya with Assad gone, possibly we would be at war with Russia here and there and she would be sailing into her re-election now with zero discussions of Medicare for All etc.

        But Jill Stein DID run and the bad man with orange hair would be exactly where he is now.

        And because Trump won this is why now it is those miscreants at the FBI and CIA and others who are about to get the hammer of justice dropped on their heads.

        I do not believe any of the polls and even if they are right it is because so many Americans are glued to MSDNC and CNN with their 24/7 B.S. propaganda and these poor Americans are too stupid to turn off the TV and do some serious research on their own.

        I can only deeply hope that the wheels of justice are turning now in search for the truth and that Barr and Durham have them well oiled.

        We desperately need a legal reckoning in this country and soon so the Clinton types in our midst can understand how it feels to get that mugshot.

        I will put Brennan’s on my phone as a screensaver and reminder.

        • venuspluto67 November 4, 2019 at 9:50 pm #

          Well…a lot more people voted Libertarian than voted Green, and I don’t think it matters who voted for which, as the vast majority of those votes were protest voters who were saying, “One turkey this November is enough, thank you.” Besides, if Stein hadn’t run, the Green Party would have put up somebody else instead.

        • Nightowl November 5, 2019 at 5:20 am #

          Better is to imagine what would have happened if the DNC had not rigged their own primary.

          Lots of Bernie folks went to Trump. I know as I almost did myself. Instead I abstained from voting, as I wasn’t convinced by anyone.

          In the end everything was for the best. Hillary lost, Bernie has now been outed as a fraud, and we elected the only man in the race who was capable and willing to put an end to neoliberalism/ globalism.

        • hmuller November 6, 2019 at 1:53 am #

          You want to see Brennan’s face on your phone? I’d rather see it pressed into a belt grinder.

        • Goodwalkspoiled November 7, 2019 at 6:17 pm #

          Indeed amazing and frightening that over half of the U.S. population willfully guzzle the CNN and MSDNC purple Kool-Aid. Alas, they have no capacity for independent thought or judgment whatsoever. It’s also tragic they are so willing to embrace socialism. No wonder monsters like Hitler and Stalin emerge upon the world scene from time to time. Their eagerness to embrace big lies is an open invitation to be sold into bondage.

      • JohnAZ November 4, 2019 at 12:28 pm #

        Which is exactly right, half of this country is so dependent on the government that they believe everything they are spoon fed by the government’s mouthpiece, the MSM. Which is exactly what the Deep State has groomed for the past thirty years.

        How? No border, lousy education, Communist college instructors, takeover of the national press

    • ellipsis November 4, 2019 at 11:24 am #

      The very term “conspiracy theory” has long been favored by the various deep state interests that hatch them, as they know the term itself is entirely pejorative and a guaranteed conversation stopper. In fact, most “conspiracies” are nothing more than semi-secretive business plans hatched by powerful interests who have access to information that most in the public don’t, and who have the additional benefit of being able to classify such information to make sure that it stays that way. The real breakthrough in such thinking was the movement to and ability to compartmentalize large operations, so that even those directly involved know very little about the overall operation, frustrating their ability to act as a potential whistle blower, should they be audacious enough to be so inclined. In the case of a major operation like 9-11 or OKC, for example, nearly all would be intimidated by the implications of what they were involved in alone should they figure it out, never mind the fact that whatever pieces of the puzzle they managed to put together would hardly be convincing alone and would surely target them for serious retribution if they were to ever come out. The “tell” in all this is that such compartmentalization was then directly attributed to the manufactured boogeyman, Al Qaeda in the case of 9-11, afterward. Pot, kettle, black, and all that.

    • Epicur November 4, 2019 at 11:25 am #

      I don’t think people have a hard time accepting that there was a conspiracy. What people have a hard time accepting is the various versions that propose to have solved the mystery of who and why.

      This is not a plea for you to give me yours.

      • Nightowl November 6, 2019 at 9:34 am #

        I think you are wrong there. This site tends to attract a fair share of critical thinkers. Beyond this little corner of the Internet, there are many people who have a very hard time accepting a conspiracy, simply on the basis that it is labelled as such.

        The social shaming tactics employed in this context have been quite effective in turning individuals into automatons.

        • Epicur November 6, 2019 at 10:52 am #

          “I think you are wrong there. ”

          You have a fair enough argument there, but I think the argument (if I pursued it) would devolve into semantics.

          I will point out though that the House of Representatives found it necessary to “investigate” (cough-cough) because of the amount of public controversy over the Kennedy (both) and King assassinations.

          I am not naive enough to believe that they were trying to “get to the bottom” of the issue, but just convince the public that the situation was not a threat to public order to justify (and keep) their phony-baloney jobs.


    • Janos Skorenzy November 4, 2019 at 11:38 am #

      Quite so. The Truth doesn’t necessarily win. In fact, it usually doesn’t. People are dumb and easily fooled, so they are. Even the smart ones because they don’t trust their own instincts and commonsense. They put their faith in pretty faces on the tube instead.

      Hopefully that anti-Conspiracy mindset so common in the late 20th century is going the way of the Dodo bird, because Conspiracy is the way the world works. The whole anti-Conspiracy thing was simply a media trope created by the Conspirators who brought down the old America.

      • malthuss November 4, 2019 at 11:46 am #

        I saw this and think of you,

        I had a cab driver from Cote d’Ivorie the other day.
        He had to flee his country during the 2002 Civil War
        and told me that every African country should have curfew and martial law.

        He should know.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 1:12 pm #

          Thank you, Malthus. As Krishna says, Remember Me (the Cosmic I) and fight (both the lesser and greater Jihad or Crusade).

          Have you read Bhagavad Gita yet? Why not?

      • JohnAZ November 4, 2019 at 12:39 pm #

        Yup! History, thus the truth, is written by the winners. The losers die.

      • Nightowl November 6, 2019 at 9:36 am #

        The point about instincts is very good. Many times, we can spot a lie, even if we can’t (at that point) say why it is a lie.

  7. John1945 November 4, 2019 at 11:07 am #

    “Wee shall be, as a Citty upon a Hill, the eies of all people are uppon us; soe that if wee shall deale falsely with our God in this worke wee have undertaken and soe cause him to withdrawe his present help from us, wee shall be made a story and a by-word through the world.”

    John Winthrop,March 29,1630

    Well,gentlemen,present Washington,DC nowadays is a story and a by-word through the world,that is for sure 🙂

    Where is yet another growling woman on a leash ready to step forward and accuse Mr.Trump that he looked at her the wrong way during the Summer of Love in 1969 ?

    • Robert White November 4, 2019 at 11:15 am #

      I had always thought that Billy Gene King was a homosexual in 1969? Perhaps The Duck just liked competitive tennis?


    • sprawlcapital November 4, 2019 at 12:15 pm #

      The summer of love was in 1967. That was the year that Time Magazine ran a cover story on “The Hippies”.

      • John1945 November 4, 2019 at 2:05 pm #

        My mistake,gentlemen.

        You are right-Summer of Love was in 1967 in San Fran.Them damn hippies with flowers in their hair were swinging from the trees in Haight Ashbury park, doing each other in mid-air.Now them damn hippies grew up and cause mischief in Washington DC.

        Woodstock was in 1969.

        Hard Hat Riot was in 1970.I did not participate in this riot,was 10000 miles away,it is the biggest regret of my life,otherwise I would prove by clear and convincing evidence that the talk is overrated as means of resolving disputes.

  8. Epicur November 4, 2019 at 11:07 am #

    “The question is whether Messers Barr & Durham have the cojones to cater the banquet of consequences that this huge cast of characters should be made to feast from.”

    Added to the the character of their cojones, there is also the question of the impending 2020 election.

    Will they wait to see which way the wind blows?

  9. Beryl of Oyl November 4, 2019 at 11:29 am #

    Since Hillary was mentioned, how about that grotesque and macabre ‘joke’ that she got a hearty chuckle out of?

    The host of some show or other teed up a knee slapper for her, the one about how many people actually think Jeffrey Epstein was murdered, and can you believe it, some people are dumb enough to think Hillary had something to do with it?
    Ow, my sides. Hilarity ensued. Even her rather slow daughter thought it was funny, her mother’s reputation as a killer of political rivals.
    They both knew the dead man personally. What a family.

  10. BackRowHeckler November 4, 2019 at 11:37 am #

    The NYTs is running stories and editorials every day attempting to discredit William Barr. What ever happened to simply all the news that’s fit to print? How did the NYTs become agit/prop on behalf of the CIA, the FBI, and the DNC?


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    • venuspluto67 November 4, 2019 at 12:40 pm #

      It really has gotten to the point where I hold freaking USA Today in higher regard than I do the NYT or the WaPo.

    • Sam Stone November 4, 2019 at 1:16 pm #

      @brh The NYT is to the Democratic Party of the current USA as the Volksich Beobachter was to the Natonal Socialist Party of 1930s Germany.

      @CFN Salon Another good article by our host. Thank you Mr. K. and keep up the good work. Your country needs you and the majority of the regulars here at CFN now more than at anytime since our Colonial days.

      I fear for what is left of this once great nation. For a very brief moment in time the USA was that great city on a hill. A beacon seen and admired around the world. A beacon called the American Spirit.

      Alas, though that spirit is still alive in a few brave souls, the cancer of progressivism, socialism, communism… whatever names the evil that has gripped our nation goes by, is gnawing at our vitals and what little is left is running out of time.

      As for me, I gotta go see a man about a horse and may be a while so… ciao for now and best of luck to you all.

      “Old songs never last too long on broken radios, hmm mmm mmm mmm.” Snippet of lyrics from John Prine’s song “Sam Stone.”

      • BackRowHeckler November 4, 2019 at 1:58 pm #


        Apparently John Prine is unwell right now.

        I saw him up in Norfolk, Ct a few years back, packed house, great show.


      • sprawlcapital November 4, 2019 at 2:30 pm #


        That’s Volkischer Beobachter, with an umlaut over the o in Volkischer.

  11. peter m November 4, 2019 at 11:53 am #

    Ms. Butina is a Gun owners right advocate in Russia and wanted to establish contacts with the NRA to help promote this idea in Russia. She made connections to other political organisations and in short – wanted to establish friendly connections with the US. They showed her what the US is like – a paranoid society fucking itself over with this paranoia to keep the deep state in control.
    The poor Lass had an 15 month learning experience of US justice – can it be worse in Russia who at least doesn’t have the death penalty? – and a foreign policy based ignorance, empire maintenance and trampling everything else that doesn’t fit their worldview in the ground.

    The Lady is quite intelligent as I take it from the 25 minute interview at RT, but somehow still is under then illusion there can be any fact and interest based cooperation with the US. Not going to happen, the empire has to expire before things change, and the empire may go out with a bang and fireworks affecting all of us rather badly.

    • abbybwood November 4, 2019 at 12:41 pm #

      Max Blumenthal of “The Gray Zone” you tube channel was recently arrested in D.C. at his home by a swat team, placed in jail in arm and ankle shackles for 3 days and was not allowed to call his lawyer.

      Max has recently written a book and he also had the temerity to travel to Venezuela after all the news shows went to great lengths to tell their gullible American viewers that the Venezuelan people had no food in the stores and were eating their pets. No toothpaste! Nothing!

      So Max went shopping in Caracas and filmed it showing all the food on the shelves! Cases full of fresh fish, breads, booze and toothpaste too!

      The CIA controlled media doesn’t like it to have some upstart journalist telling the truth to the American people!

      Check out what happened to Blumenthal. There is a good roundtable discussion about him with Peter Lavelle on Crosstalk linked at Informationclearinghouse.info.

      I hope he has a good lawyer!

      • peter m November 4, 2019 at 1:07 pm #

        I am quite familiar with the case and Blumenthals interview on RT.

        Looking at what happened to Butina – in order to evade the possibility to be accused as a foreigner being a spy, wich she in the present climate might not have been able to avoid with the possibility of a 15 year sentence – see the charges against Assange – she agreed to the charge of being an unregistered agent – which she hardly ever was either.

        Her efforts were that of a private person acting in her own interest as a Libertarian and gun owner and as she said being her only co- conspirator because no state or non state agency ever was connected to her efforts of fostering ties with some USA organisations with the possibility of those having connections further on with similar Russian organisations.

        Even with a lawyer the best that could be done was to falsely declare herself an unregistered agent which usually does not even result in in a custodial penalty in the States, but got her a 15 month prison term and month of solitary confinement.

        That in mind and the attempts to stifle dissent by all legal, semi legal and non legal methods I don’t see a bright horizon
        for Max Blumenthal.

      • Tate November 4, 2019 at 3:25 pm #

        I don’t believe either of your factions. Not the one that claims that the shelves are full of “cases of fresh fish, breads, booze and toothpaste” (Yes they are, but only in special stores for certain favored people, not the masses.) And not the one that claims that that UnMaduro whom 98% of the Venezuelan people have never heard of is the duly-constituted President of Venezuela. There’s a piece at Unz on the arrest of Max Blumenthal.

      • Nightowl November 5, 2019 at 5:39 am #

        Thanks. Need to check this out.

        BTW, Max is no upstart. He has been around for quite a while.

    • Soloview November 4, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

      Problem is, people are naive. There were a number of documents found on Butina that she in fact managed her political profile in the US. (Emails to Russian ex-senator cum Kremlin figure and inquires about how to apply for FSB job were some of the reasons she was nabbed). I think the US counter-intelligence/justice system went over the top on her but that does not mean she was lily white. Her insisting she only wanted to improve US-Russian relations carries too much of a Soviet echo. Improve relations via handgun rights in Russia? Interesting combo. I saw the interviews with her and she struck me as a bit too clever for someone denying she was a spy while getting caught with applications for becoming one.

  12. JustSaying November 4, 2019 at 12:24 pm #

    Of course, Ms. Stahl and her shifty producers left out half the story: how Maria Butina was manipulated by her FBI-handler and sometime-boyfriend, Patrick Byrne, the former Overstock.com CEO who had been employed by the Bureau over the years on other undercover assignments.

    This is surely one of the strangest side stories concerning this entire ClusterF**k!

    So Trump is crude, vulgar, bombastic, narcissistic, self-serving, delusional, psychopathic, and dangerous. Name one president in recent memory who wasn’t. I have to agree with Assad – at least Trump is transparent! (And hasn’t yet started a new war).

    They are all war criminals and have the blood of humanity on their hands. Like LBJ, Nixon, Carter, Regan, Clinton, Bush, Obama, Biden were somehow “better” and less corrupt! Let’s compile the number of people killed for each president – that would be a better guage.

    The historian, Alfred McCoy says that Trump will expedite the demise of the Empire. Bring it.

    • sprawlcapital November 4, 2019 at 2:17 pm #


      I share your fervent wish for the demise of the American Empire. The question is, does that make me anti-American or an America-hater? I would answer, no, it does not! If there is a Heaven, Sam Clemens looks down from there and agrees.

  13. venuspluto67 November 4, 2019 at 12:29 pm #

    What is there left to say except that every stupid and clumsy possible mistake Hillary Clinton and her handlers made, they went and made with utter cement-head enthusiasm. We really do live in an era of what John Michael Greer called “the senility of elites”.

    • JohnAZ November 4, 2019 at 12:44 pm #

      And with it, maybe the senility of the American culture itself.

  14. JustSaying November 4, 2019 at 12:45 pm #


    18 months in solitary confinement for not registering as a foreign agent. This is the kind of stuff we think happened in the Soviet Union. I also read that she was constantly exposed to threats of rape by the guards.

    • venuspluto67 November 4, 2019 at 1:05 pm #

      Somebody who hasn’t done anything violent whatsoever should never be placed in solitary confinement. 🙁

  15. amb November 4, 2019 at 1:02 pm #

    Mr. K — I just want to acknowledge your excellent writings over these many months. Perfect prose; almost poetry. You have your finger on the pulse of America, especially the current coup, and your insight is excellent. Keep up the good work. You are much appreciated. Conservatives must attack and defeat these evil and clueless Jacobins. The previous modus operandi of “hiding in our rooms to escape their Alinsky tactics” must end… it has allowed the Leftists to co-opt our country, government and culture over these last 50 years. We must attack and be aggressive, even if there is the potential that these globalist America-haters will burn in their own self-made Hell. I hope America comes through this very dark period. This is indeed a pivotal moment in history. Our vector must be in the correct direction.

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  16. hmuller November 4, 2019 at 1:07 pm #

    A publication named Epoch Times has created a poster flow chart to explain this ongoing coup attempt, which they call “Spygate”.


  17. K-Dog November 4, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

    Washington is all Kabuki theatre. But regarding Trump there is a special twist. This explains it.

  18. RB November 4, 2019 at 1:22 pm #

    I do hope that Mr. K is correct about prosecution of the “coupers” but I still think that has about as much chance as Epstein had making it to a courtroom. And how much do you hear about Epstein anymore? The same silence will prevail with the “coupers” in another few months, maybe a year.

    As for Mr. Trump’s reelection, it is my opinion that at the last moment he will decline to run again and let the GOP run in circles trying to fit Mitt into the race. He’d rather play golf and no matter what he was a president.

    This is the best soap opera ever. Hollywood couldn’t write this stuff.

  19. volodya November 4, 2019 at 1:27 pm #

    Well, according to JHK millions of credulous bystanders will get the surprise of their lives when they realize how deeply they were played.

    Despite the profusion of evidence that they’ve been played for all these years most heinously with not a flicker of regret or conscience by the players, these credulous bystanders are still blissfully credulous, and if they haven’t yet had their epiphany, I wonder what it would take.
    These are the people after all that consider themselves a cut above, who look down on their political rivals, ie those without a college degree, yet for all the assertions of intellectual superiority, they STILL don’t get it.

    I just read an article in Atlantic and the writing fairly oozes contempt for those people the author considers below her, conservatives that is, people she sees as rigid and fearful, people who prize tradition and fixity, greatly unlike their political opposites, who are liberal, who who are comfortable with change, who abhor displays of toughness, who raise children to be adventurous and independent and curious and tolerant and empathetic, who I would guess are just like the writer. 

    This then is how so-called “liberal” America see themselves and their opponents ie Trump supporters, those people who by nature and nurture are unfit for these exciting modern times. 

    So somebody tell me, how it is that it was so-called “conservatives” that already had the realization of having been played? They got there first. You can see the results, they destroyed one long-standing political party, they discarded conventional Republican pieties requiring them to submit to destitution, that being the greatest demonstration of Americanism that Americans can display. They took a pass on Jeb and his Republican clones and opted for the most unlikely candidate, that same guy that liberals deemed a human truck bomb. Not very rigid for those rigid, fearful people that hew to tradition, don’t you think? How is it that the people considered DUMB smelled the coffee and their intellectual betters didn’t?

    Maybe it’s like that guy said, you won’t see something if your paycheck depends on your not seeing it. And for liberals, the world order that is currently being upset by multitudes all across the globe, has been of great benefit to those same liberals, those of the towering self-regard,  and they do not want any part of a restructuring that would help those toothless cretins in Flyover America, nor those ingrates in Chile, nor Lebanon, nor Hong Kong, nor those racist idiot Brexiteers. 

    But change is a comin’ regardless of whether people snap out of it and have their realizations, not least because the status quo is unworkable. Stay credulous or wake the fuck up, in the greater scheme it matters not a whit, events will roll on regardless. 

    • Robert White November 4, 2019 at 2:04 pm #

      If the Republican Party even remotely understood history they would fully understand the ineptitude emanating out of the Whore House with Tariff Man at helm holding all global trade sclerotic & bottlenecked flows to ransom with his Smoot-Hawley boot to their necks on international business.

      The Duck is yesterday’s man & business illiterate in contemporary parlance. Change always manifests when the business cycle turns against incumbency for the second term.

      Richard Nixon was automatically turfed out on recessionary headwinds as will the Orange orator of the twitterverse in due time.


      • volodya November 4, 2019 at 3:34 pm #

        It’s a bitch I tell ya, and I agree that Republicans understand so very little – about anything – or their Grand Old Party wouldn’t be the twitching carcass that it is today. 

        As far as change goes, you’re right, that the bizness cycle is one mechanism to clean out the barn, the worse the downturn the greater the mucking out. 

        But I think the big kahuna of change these past few decades has been a system of production and trade that we loosely call neo-liberalism, which by its laws and international treaties and bizness practices was ostensibly to lift all boats and protect the weak from the strong. In fact it lifted just a few, sunk a great many, and served to protect the strong, and it took power from legislatures and gave it to corporate boardrooms.

        This of course visited massive economic destruction across much of the industrialized US and Canada and other places and set to ticking some truly fearsome financial time-bombs, a most scary sub-national explosive being that in the Province of Ontario which is sitting on over 300 billion bucks in govt debt. Chicago? Illinois? Detroit? yes, truly bad, but much smaller in comparison. The US federal govt is in truly calamitous condition but you can’t ignore the others.  

        And we have similar problems all over the world, with rock-throwing festivities in places as far apart as Hong Kong and the UK and France and Chile and Lebanon, all are suffering, its top dogs studiously ignoring the root cause of all this upheaval. 

        Trump may be a catalog of bad things, but he did everyone a service by calling out a dispensation that isn’t working and cannot possibly. Too bad it had to be him but there you go. 

        • Robert White November 4, 2019 at 4:37 pm #

          The neoliberalism of the Chicago School of Economics gave us monopolies just as they did in the Depression era. Floating all boats metaphors is used to instill confidence where none actually exists. The only boats floating over the last half century have been that of the elite .1 %.

          Could someone remind Uncle Warren Buffett to buy me a new truck this year as my old vehicle is angling for retirement after these many years & decades.

          P.S. It’s not hard to take instruction from hired opposition research teams advising potential candidates on the best meme to advance in opposition to a second term POTUS that is leaving office without sanctioning Wall Street Bank Holding Companies for their Japanification of the USA economy.


          • malthuss November 4, 2019 at 6:34 pm #

            Japan does not have—-

            3? million Homeless

            43 million Blacks

            60? million immigrants

            X illegals

        • Majella November 4, 2019 at 8:55 pm #

          Yes, the Chicago School, which managed to grab the ear of the neo-liberals in the ’70s and then capture the political process through Reagan & Thatcher.

          In the early ’80s, they pulled off the same stunt in little old New Zealand too.

          They raped & pillaged the old economy – which was, let’s face it, over-loaded with import tariffs, import licensing, a huge under-employed workforce on the state’s tit through various government departments that arose out of the Depression – but it was a violent & rapid change that destroyed the fabric of what had been a singularly homogenous & happy society.

          It enjoyed full employment and a single working man could own a house & raise a family.

          One summer holiday at high school in the 1970s, I got fired from a crappy job I detested anyway (working in a brick factory). I simply took a bus into town and within 3 or 4 hours had a new job working in a hospital kitchen (government money, so pretty good too) …just would not happen today.

          Over the decade or so, from 1983 to 1996, was the time of TINA – ‘There Is No Alternative!’ except to deregulate everything, float the currency, trash import tariffs and join the GATT (now WTO).

          The result was the gutting of the domestic industry, particularly clothing, shoes, appliances and the like. Unemployment skyrocketed and businesses went broke all over the show.

          Still, despite the growing injustices that inevitably arise when such an agenda is implemented, NZ was lucky/smart enough to a) switch to a Proportional Representation System of the parliamentary elections (1996), and in 1999, elected Helen Clark as PM with a left-wing coalition government that survived 3 terms (9 years) and was able to mitigate much of the damage from the reforms of the late 20th century.

          As a result, NZ remains a relatively peaceful compared to the seething chaos seen elsewhere – no ‘rock-throwing festivities’ as yet, and no signs of such. No crazy PC left-wing idiots/wokesters or other ‘offend-able’ classes. Likewise, no crazy RWNJs either – plenty who don’t like the level of Government involvement in life but really they DON’T have much to complain about.

          The public school system – funded by central government taxes in the main (as opposed to local district taxes which causes all sorts of distortions) – are highly regarded and the vast majority of kids who have a moderate level of intelligence and some level fo application succeed.

          The public health system works too. There’s private medical insurance if you want it – which allows you to NOT have to wait for non-urgent or elective treatments, and incidentally takes quite a bit of pressure off the public system. Great win-win.

          Based on this experience (which is similar in Australia & the UK, I believe) I don’t think Warren or Bernie’s ‘Medicare For All’ accompanied by a compulsory de-commissioning of the private option is a good idea. There’s room for both – the only catch is, that EVERYONE STILL pays taxes towards the public system – that is, there’s no tax deductibility for the private medical insurance premiums… it’s each individual’s choice.

          The point of this rather long dribbling rant is this: all the woes I see people expressing in here about the dire state of things in the USA – high taxes, the left and right-wing nut-job factions tearing the social fabric apart, the failing education system, the broken healthcare system – it doesn’t have to be this way!

          If there’s ANY (just one) politician who genuinely wants to ‘fix shit’, there’s plenty of models overseas – in northern Europe & Australasia, Japan even – to start working on.

          Does anyone in politics care or are they ALL just grifters?

          • volodya November 5, 2019 at 12:32 pm #

            Majella, great post. To answer your last question, you have to trust your own eyeballs, that when the great hope of the next election lies about her ethnicity and personal history, you start thinking what you just said, they’re all grifters. What else do you call it, calling yourself an Indian when you ain’t anything of the sort? 

            I could point to a few filaments of steppe ancestry and call myself a Hun. Am I? Of course not. Do I have any tribal affiliation or religious membership or any other ethno-cultural marker? Not even close. Neither did the candidate in question. 

            There’s so much wretched shit that you don’t know where to put your hands, but you have to start someplace, and it would be tempting to assume that the easiest problems to solve are ones that are local in origin and so have local solutions. But when you look at the dire condition of so many cities, typically Democrat run, it’s hard to not conclude that the reason for it is that public officials are in thrall to already vested interests.

            Housing is one serious problem, affordability the crux of it. What’s needed for a multitude of people in the gig economy or precariously employed are single room dwellings, maybe with shared kitchen and bathroom, or maybe in the nature of “bachelor” apartments as they’re called in some locales or “efficiency” in others. 

            The problem of course is the NIMBY phenomenon so I guess people in nice single family houses prefer to have homeless people camping out, distributing filth and disease, rather than having them in some kind of fixed structure, off the streets and out of the weather, with some way to keep clean. Or maybe they prefer people to live in perilous financial shape, just one sickness and missed paycheck from eviction. 

            You also see self-deception here where there’s a lot of logic-twisting, distinguishing between sheltered and un-sheltered homeless, and while the latter I suppose is somewhat better, how do you go about the rudiments of daily living always with the anxiety of not having your own place? This distinction just sounds like another excuse for inaction, you know, oh, they’re SHELTERED homeless. Sure, try living that way and get back to us. 

            Your greater point about looking overseas for solutions is great, but one not easily absorbed by people that think they’re the cat’s whiskers, thinking they have nothing to learn from places they see as inferior. New Zealand? Where the fuck is that? 

            When you have no clue, try to get one, but apparently that’s too much to ask. Too bad.   

        • Elrond Hubbard November 5, 2019 at 8:34 am #

          volodya, what’s with the scare-mongering about Ontario’s public debt? The actual number as of March 31, 2018 is CAD $348.79 billion. That sounds like a big, scary number, until you compare it to the size of the Ontario economy, the biggest in Canada. Ontario’s debt-to-GDP ratio is quite modest compared to lots of other places:

          – Debt-to-GDP ratio, province of Ontario: 37.6% (Link.)

          – Debt-to-GDP ratio, all Canada: 30.9%, projected to shrink to 30.2% of GDP in 2023-2024. By comparison, the all-time high was 108.9% in 1946 (post-WWII) and was still as high as 66.8% in the 1990s, when the Chretien and Martin governments went on an extended slimdown. (Link.)

          Compare that to the following:

          – China 16.7%
          – India 61.8%
          – Germany 70.1%
          – UK 89.1%
          – France 98.2%
          – United States: 103.8%
          – Italy 135.5%
          – Japan at an awesome 246.1%. (Link for all of the above.)

          In other words, Canada and Ontario may not be China, but we’re sitting pretty compared to most others in our class when it comes to public debt. Who hurt you, volodya? Why are you ruled by fear? More to the point, what’s in it for you to promote unwarranted fear about us?

      • hmuller November 4, 2019 at 5:56 pm #

        Robert White,

        You wrote,”Richard Nixon was automatically turfed out on recessionary headwinds as will the Orange orator of the twitterverse in due time.”

        I don’t know what parallel universe you lived in, but in my world Nixon was not bounced out of office because of the economy. In,fact, he won re-election in 1972 with 60% vs 40% of the vote and carried 49 states.

        A Congressional coup removed him – ostensibly because of Watergate related violations of law.

        If people were unhappy with the economy why did he win a landslide re-election, even as Watergate was making daily headlines? Maybe you should stick to history instead of whatever your remote viewing shows you. LOL

        • Epicur November 4, 2019 at 8:19 pm #

          IMO, just as in Mr. Trump’s election, the election of Richard Nixon had more to do with dissatisfaction with the previous administration than it did with enthusiasm for the electee.

        • Robert White November 5, 2019 at 3:57 pm #

          Nixon was turfed for myriad reasons but he was an unpopular fellow after closing the gold window, and the hippies had not managed their ire adequately until Watergate blew his White House residency out-of-the-water.

          The 72 election was something else indeed.

          I was 12 in 72.


          • hmuller November 5, 2019 at 5:20 pm #

            I was 17 in 1972 and relatively politically aware for my age. But I didn’t know what closing the gold window meant then. Now I know.

            I also don’t remember anybody being concerned about it at the time – I’m talking ordinary people I knew, not the Austrian economists.

            What people took away from that Nixon speech was that foreign cars were going to cost 10% more overnight and that a wage and price freeze was being implemented to control inflation. – because you see, greedy people wanting more money were the root cause of consumer price inflation. And we were so stupid we believed it.

            I don’t think the hippies did Nixon in.

            I think after winning a landslide election, he felt cocky, overly powerful and ran afoul of those who must not be named. Privately, we have Nixon on tape expressing contempt for those faggots at Bohemian Grove. Maybe he thought he could run things his way.

          • Robert White November 5, 2019 at 6:47 pm #

            I watched Nixon close the gold window in 1971 with my Chartered Accountant Senior Rulings National Revenue CANADA father lecturing me in the process. I have followed USA Petro-dollar supremacy from 1971 forward, and I have also followed the divestiture into the corollary macroeconomic environment of Climate Change & Carbon Based Economics/Trading/Green Bonds, et cetera.

            Economics always plays a part of presidential ouster at the level of impeachment. The hippies, and myself, wanted the war in Vietnam to stop interfering with My Favorite Martian or I Love Lucy episodes.

            The Vietnam War ended Nixon when the hippies had finally had enough. Nixon was most assuredly being demonstrated again by throngs of anti-war hippies when he was turfed.


          • hmuller November 6, 2019 at 2:16 am #

            Yeah it’s those hippies in the street who make and break Presidents .LOL Utter rubbish.

            The Vietnam War officially ended in January 1973. During the following 19 months (until AUG 1974) as Nixon’s Presidency was destroyed by the deep state, Vietnam was hardly an issue. The hippies went home and toked up.

            A small American contingent remained behind. But few men were being drafted in 1973, and the draft ended completely June 30, 1973.

            Yes, the North Vietnamese Army came roaring south and conquered S. Viet Nam, but that was in 1975 after Nixon was a fading memory. And Ford stood by powerless.

            You haven’t been very clear and convincing on just what economic issues destroyed Nixon and how these “powerful hippies” were involved in these economic issue – whatever they were.

            I’m thrilled you’re studying carbon credits, et al, but that’s a little irrelevant to Nixon’s time period..

          • hmuller November 6, 2019 at 10:45 am #

            I think I see your problem, Robert White. Everything that happened in the Nixon administration is one big jumble in your mind, you don’t see the timeline of events. Hence, you are confused on cause and effect.

            Yes, there were big anti-war demonstrations in the earlier part of Nixon’s term. He gradually withdrew American forces from Viet Nam, By election day November 1972, there had been a 90% reduction. A few months later in January 1973 a fragile and temporary peace treaty ended the war.

            The anti-war movement petered out just as the Watergate issue was beginning to surface in June 1972. Despite Watergate, Nixon won a landslide re-election in 1972. Most people figured dirty tricks are par for the course in American politics.

            But the deep state wore Nixon down like a dog chewing a ham bone. They eventually had enough of a smoking gun to prove a cover-up and force his resignation. Although, the process never made it as far as a House vote of impeachment.

          • Robert White November 6, 2019 at 7:41 pm #

            Hunter S. Thompson was at the Democratic National Convention in 1972 and claimed that the beatings by police were extraordinarily violent which changed his perspective on journalism proper and that’s when he decided to ‘turn pro as the going got weird’.

            The Democratic Convention was the turning point of the hippie anti-establishment counter culture of 72. And as a 12 year old I was a hip kid due to news culture in my household.

            I remember Nixon well. I remember the nightly news of killing on the tube, and the hippies demonstrating against the war right alongside on the news. My father often remarked unfavourably towards the hippies much like Bunker on All in the Family.


          • hmuller November 7, 2019 at 1:08 am #

            Robert White,

            You may remember a lot of things, but you don’t remember them in the proper order. It’s all jumbled together in your mind.

            Hunter Thompson was roughed up at the 1968 Democratic Convention, not the 1972 convention. See the link.


            You wrote: “The Democratic Convention was the turning point of the hippie anti-establishment counter culture of 72. And as a 12 year old I was a hip kid due to news culture in my household”.

            Change 72 to 68 and your statement has merit. I don’t know how “hip a kid you were”. But your grasp of dates and events now could use a little sharpening.

    • GreenAlba November 4, 2019 at 2:45 pm #

      “nor those racist idiot Brexiteers. ”

      I know it’s one of your main shouting points, Volodya, but nobody here is talking about racism. They’re talking about jobs, a trade deal with the US (and what it will do), the NHS, etc. etc. And the two main parties are falling over themselves to outspend each other in campaign promises to prove how amazing Brexit will be, on one side, and to mitigate its effects on the other.

      I haven’t heard anyone talk about racism for about two years. You need to catch up.

      • GreenAlba November 4, 2019 at 3:05 pm #

        Oh, and they’re talking about Ireland, Scotland and the possibly imminent break-up of the UK.

        Racism, not so much.

        Go back and see how much Ireland figured in the campaign.

        That’s right – exactly that much. Same with the effects of a trade deal with the US.

        But sunlit uplands and unicorns farting rainbows? They were everywhere.

        • Tate November 4, 2019 at 3:16 pm #

          It was so triggering she suffered complete amnesia.

          • Majella November 5, 2019 at 4:05 am #

            Dickhead level response if EVER there was one…

          • Tate November 5, 2019 at 10:46 am #

            Lighten up.

        • sunburstsoldier November 4, 2019 at 5:58 pm #


          Are you familiar with the Findhorn Garden up there in your neck of the woods?

          First nonfiction book I ever read was the story of how this Community came into existence, and it is indeed a marvelous, miraculous story…

          RWNJ extraordinaire

          • GreenAlba November 5, 2019 at 7:51 am #

            I’ve heard of it, but not been there, sunburstsoldier. It’s quite far north of where I am (I know distances mean less to you!). When I go up north, it tends to be to the coast of Wester Ross on the other side, although I’ve been up the East coast in my earlier years before the community existed and was indeed born up that way (not quite so far north as Findhorn).

            However, I see that the Findhorn Ecovillage has the lowest carbon footprint of anywhere in the industrialised world (half the UK average) and has won prizes for sustainability, so good on ’em.

            I’ll put it on my bucket list. 🙂

        • BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 5:25 am #

          It’s taking the UK longer to get out of the EU than it took to win WW1. It’s hard to believe this is the place where the industrial revolution began and who once ruled an empire that spanned the world. What a joke GB has become.


          • GreenAlba November 5, 2019 at 7:24 am #

            Getting out of the EU is easy, brh. Getting out without destroying whole sectors of your economy and bringing destitution most of all to the very people you persuaded to vote for your neoliberal project is the hard bit. Maybe you think there aren’t enough food banks. Maybe you think being short of 40,000 nurses and 10,000 doctors isn’t enough.

            How to persuade the people of Sunderland that it will all be fabulous when the biggest car plant in the UK closes down, with 7000 direct jobs and 30,000 indirect ones, in one of the rustiest belts of the country, is one of the reasons why public spending is about to go through the roof. The Tories know that 10 years of Tory austerity was a massive reason for the Brexit vote and they daren’t tell the populace that austerity is the future no matter what happens (Brexit just brings it on a decade or three earlier). So it’s back to spend, spend, spend, and tax, tax, tax. And pretend, pretend, pretend.

            And that from the Tories whose entire raison d’être used to be fiscal responsibility (while keeping the propertied classes well propertied). But these dummies actually think that a third runway at Heathrow and an eye-wateringly expensive high-speed rail link from London to Not-Actually-Very-Far-Away are are going to pay for themselves in sales of widgets to Tuvalu once they’ve destroyed their main markets.

            There is little that is less helpful than people from other countries talking about situations they see through a lens of deadening over-simplification. You’ll note I avoid doing it with regard to events in yours, unless they have global implications. You might say out of respect. Rarely reciprocated.

            I’m still waiting to hear from anyone at all who has a foolproof solution to the Irish border question that will keep the DUP happy, along with the New/Real/Upgraded/Young-and-Frisky/Just-Waiting-For-An-Excuse IRA. And won’t destroy the Northern Irish economy OR fuel Scottish independence and the break-up of the UK. I doubt you even know how there are connected in the mind of the opportunist-in-chief, Nicola Sturgeon.

            “For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. ..” As yer man said.

          • GreenAlba November 5, 2019 at 7:30 am #

            ” It’s hard to believe this is the place where the industrial revolution began and who once ruled an empire that spanned the world.”

            And yet you’ve been reading Clusterfuck Nation for how long? And presumably read The Long Emergency as well. Did NONE of it sink in?

            This is what I expect from Nigel Farage, who wouldn’t know what entropy was if it fell in his beer. I don’t think the inevitable decline of industrial societies was in the exam curriculum for commodities brokers when he joined the ‘profession’. Although you’d think it should have been, even if only in terms of how to fatten your personal bank account from it while everyone else sinks. Which kinda sums up Brexit from the Jacob Rees-Mogg mansions.

          • GreenAlba November 5, 2019 at 8:00 am #


            I’m sure he has a future in vaudeville.

          • Majella November 7, 2019 at 2:02 am #

            Thanks for that GA. I can’t get past how much Rees-Mogg looks like a louche Hitler cline.

    • Tate November 4, 2019 at 3:11 pm #

      One of those “toothless cretins in Flyover America” just put up an ‘IT’S OKAY TO BE WHITE’ sign at an intersection near me over the weekend. Oh the humanity!

      Posted by “JN” at Nextdoor.com:

      “WHAT THE HECK!?!?

      This is NOT OKAY. I found this on the stop sign at the end of our block and immediately removed it!”

      ROFL. The comment thread (57 comments) had been removed by the time I saw the email alert. That would have been a stitch. Have to check my emails more often. I was reminded of this by <a href="http://www.unz.com/isteve/college-president-it-ok-to-be-white-is-despicable-utterly-unacceptable-and-disgusting/"this post by Steve Sailer at Unz

      “It’s OK to be White” Flier Is “Despicable, Utterly Unacceptable and Disgusting”
      — Western Connecticut University State president John Clark

      • Tate November 4, 2019 at 3:14 pm #

        Darn! Can’t get it right. Here’s the direct link:


      • Tate November 4, 2019 at 3:30 pm #

        And No, I didn’t put up the sign.

        • BackRowHeckler November 4, 2019 at 3:52 pm #

          Please note: WCSU is one of those colleges on life support. JHK mentions in one of his recent podcasts what a racket higher ed has become, and names 3 that have gone out of business in NE in the past few years. Things have gotten so bad at Western that ‘in state tuition’ has been extended to residents of NY and NJ, and they have heavily recruited illegals. I wouldn’t doubt if the state closed that school. About a decade ago a branch of UCONN in that area was closed down as well.


          • malthuss November 4, 2019 at 6:37 pm #

            Wisconsin-Minnesota have in state for residents of each others state. And the Dreamers are barrys great hope [so why did he buy on the Vineyard?].

      • BackRowHeckler November 4, 2019 at 3:40 pm #

        Yes, Tate, apparently this John Clark chap, University President, was so alarmed by the ‘OK to be white’ fliers on the WCSU campus that he not only notified the campus police and Danbury City Police, but the Conn State Police and FBI as well. Rest assured a major investigation is underway and we will not rest until the master criminals and propagandists who distributed this racist diatribes are hunted down, arrested, prosecuted and imprisoned.

        In all seriousness, is there a more spineless group of people in the US than college and university presidents?


        • volodya November 4, 2019 at 3:43 pm #

          To answer your question: maybe, but I don’t know of any.

        • JohnAZ November 4, 2019 at 4:26 pm #

          Yeah, White college and University Presidents!

          • capt spaulding November 4, 2019 at 7:16 pm #

            Yes, and don’t forget President Bone Spur.

          • hmuller November 5, 2019 at 4:53 pm #

            Men of Trump’s generation felt no need to serve in the military and used every trick in the book to avoid service.

            Remember Clinton’s phony promises in writing ‘to serve later if you let me go for now.’

            George W. was dragged kicking and screaming by Big Daddy to serve in the National Guard, but missed half his drills anyway.

            Dick Cheney told his draft board he ‘had other priorities’; and they were sympathetic. Go figure.

            So Capt, if you want to condemn, you better cast a very wide net.

          • capt spaulding November 5, 2019 at 7:46 pm #

            I agree with you completely, hmuller. I would include all of the people you have mentioned, and a lot more besides. The biggest irony to me, was to see people like Cheney encourage military force when he was a draft dodger himself. Thus came the evolution of the term “Chickenhawk”.

          • hmuller November 6, 2019 at 12:07 pm #

            Rush Limbaugh had a pimple on his butt which excused him from military service. He doesn’t like to talk about it.

            Personally, I served 20 years in Army Intelligence and never heard a shot fired in anger. So I’m not claiming hero status. Though I must say those Korean bar girls were very aggressive and determined.

          • capt spaulding November 6, 2019 at 7:17 pm #

            Nevertheless, you served, and the country should appreciate your service.

      • volodya November 4, 2019 at 3:46 pm #

        So I guess it’s not ok to be White.

        Damn, I’m white. What to do, what to do. I know, I’ll pretend to be Black!

        Why not? Been done before.

        • malthuss November 4, 2019 at 6:39 pm #

          Lou Reed, he who obsessed over Trannies, has a song–I wanna Be Black, supposedly putting down Wiggers.

    • ellipsis November 4, 2019 at 3:46 pm #

      So somebody tell me, how it is that it was so-called “conservatives” that already had the realization of having been played? They got there first.

      The “conservatives” didn’t. The working classes of both parties – who just so happened to be mostly Republican by default, since the Dems have been openly shitting on them since at least 1993 – did. Politics is no longer a meaningful distinction whatsoever. Class is!

      • volodya November 4, 2019 at 3:53 pm #

        Great point.

  20. venuspluto67 November 4, 2019 at 2:06 pm #

    Chris Hedges dispenses some more Truth Tea (TM) about impeachment and the Deep State.

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    • Plennie_Wingo November 4, 2019 at 2:50 pm #

      Hardly flattering. The Orange Monster will be removed when the corporate plutocracy has no further need for his fat ass.

      Makes for a good night’s sleep.

      • Nightowl November 5, 2019 at 7:18 am #

        Yes, the endless Affentheater from corporate media about Russian Collusion, the Whistleblower, and Quidproorangemanbad, are really because the corporate plutocracy loves Trump.

        Deep thoughts.

    • Majella November 4, 2019 at 9:01 pm #

      As Volodya has pointed out several times:

      ” Trump’s most unforgivable sin in the eyes of the deep state is his criticism of the empire’s endless wars, even though he lacks the intellectual and organizational skills to oversee a disengagement.”

      • Nightowl November 5, 2019 at 7:25 am #

        Part II of that statement is the same unverified tosh you spit out on command day in and day out.

        What is your basis for this assessment? What direct experience do you have with the President to be able to make such an evaluation?

        These statements are purely rhetorical, of course. Feel free to send in the tumbleweeds.

        • benr November 5, 2019 at 11:14 am #

          She has none simply red faced rage and bullshit.
          Over and over it screams to the world of how much it hates Trump.
          Nothing it says about Trump matters beyond how she feels about him.

          • hmuller November 5, 2019 at 4:39 pm #

            I think she’s secretly in love with Trump.

      • Majella November 7, 2019 at 2:06 am #

        Get something to hold your eyelids open! Just LOOK at the Duck and his ‘works’. They speak for themselves.

  21. sunburstsoldier November 4, 2019 at 2:20 pm #

    What does JHK mean by this statement?

    “Ciaramella has just been hung out to dry by his sponsor, Rep. Adam Schiff in a desperate attempt to dissociate himself from the huggermugger within his House Intel Committee that preceded the falsely blown whistle.”

    when did this happen?

    RWNJ extraordinaire

    • James Howard Kunstler November 4, 2019 at 5:27 pm #

      Rep Adam Schiff has dissociated himself from the Whistleblower. Schiff has declared the WB is no longer of any importance to the proceedings — because he’s terrified the the WB will eventually have to testify in some hearing or trail, in which Schiff himself will be compelled to testify about contacts with WB before the complaint was filed. WB will be destroyed by his foolish actions. –JHK Admin

      • benr November 4, 2019 at 5:39 pm #

        One can only hope they both have their day in court.

      • sunburstsoldier November 4, 2019 at 5:51 pm #

        And yet the impeachment charade continues??

        • Majella November 5, 2019 at 4:13 am #

          We’ll see if it’s a charade or not, soon enough,if the level of engagement of GOP congresspeople in the closed hearings was a shameful stunned silence compared to the public rhetoric is anything to go by.

          The recent complaint was that the process was all ‘Secret’, but the GOP House voted to an individual AGAINST making them public. Go figure.

          • Nightowl November 5, 2019 at 7:21 am #

            What is the crime? We have the transcript.

            Provide detailed answers.

          • benr November 5, 2019 at 11:20 am #

            There is no crime that is the point their star witness has now said he will not be a witness.
            They have nothing again except the mainstream media blustering endlessly about nothing.
            How many times did we hear Shifty Schiff say this is the smoking gun the aha moment during the Russia lie and now with this phone call nonsense?
            Political kubuki theatrics bordering on hysterics.

            One of my coworkers is a TDS afflicted mess to the point she came in after Trump won in hysterics and now even she is sick of the nonsense say she won’t even vote in 2020

          • Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 1:18 pm #

            New Zealand is too small to occupy the attention of this kind of Virago. She has to meddle in our affairs, affairs too large for her ken and scope. She’s an angry hobbit of mixed Human, Hobbit and Maori lineage. I call her hobbit because of her inner smallness, not out of any disrespect for the Hobbit People per se.

          • hmuller November 5, 2019 at 5:01 pm #

            Majella, are you saying the Republicans voted in favor of Adam Schiff holding secret meetings in the Capital basement from which they were excluded?!

            Is that what you believe? LOL

          • benr November 6, 2019 at 2:51 pm #


            She believes only what MSNBC and their ilk tell her to believe.

          • Majella November 7, 2019 at 2:09 am #

            hmuller – no. They voted against the very thing they were demanding – public hearings. Now they have them, they have nowhere to hide. Yay.

  22. Lars November 4, 2019 at 2:34 pm #

    No! not that poor little Russian vixen Maria Butina again. She’s gone back to Russia (plea deal) now and vows never to set foot in the US again -she was treated pretty roughly. Who knows what her game was, but it sure didn’t seem to be espionage. One MSM source described how when she was living with a “Republican operative” (older man), she made him do her homework while she was attending a local college. Oh, the inhumanity!

    I wish I were as confident as Jim that justice (or Karma) would overtake these folks, but I think it will all disappear into a wispy mystery, like who killed Jeffery Epstein and all the other pressing questions that drop out of the news.

  23. Gonga Din November 4, 2019 at 3:11 pm #

    The deep state: “Ah, cold war, good times, good times.”

    • Pucker November 4, 2019 at 5:43 pm #

      I once went swimming in a very nice swimming pool in Bali, Indonesia paddling around singing the Cars’ tune “Let the Good Times Roll”.

      That was many years ago when I had a bit of a beer belly.


  24. Pucker November 4, 2019 at 5:36 pm #

    Should nonbelievers be punished for their Heresy? By nonbelievers I mean all of those Assholes….

    Should we apply the works of Aristotle to painstakingly identify Heretics? Particularly, Heretics in Hollywood and on Wall Street?

    Do you agree with Thomas Aquinas that “Reason was a gift from God”?

    Reason was a Gift of God to Man, and not to Woman, right?

    “Take my wife, please take my wife!”
    – Rodney Dangerfield

    • Robert White November 5, 2019 at 4:10 pm #

      Indeed, we should apply the works of Aristotle to generously give Wall Street bureaucrats their long awaited comeuppance but, as you know, they shoot the messenger on Wall Street, and then rifle his/her pockets as they leave them for dead in a kill, or be killed, world.


  25. sunburstsoldier November 4, 2019 at 5:45 pm #

    Here is an example that not everyone s intimated by the ‘Woke’ community:

    Nationals baseball player Kurt Suzuki surprised President Trump by taking out a “Make America Great Again” hat during the White House ceremony celebrating the team’s World Series victory on Monday.

    “In the bottom of the ninth you scored seven runs — I do remember that well — including an amazing three-run homer by Kurt Suzuki,” Trump said, asking team catcher Suzuki to say a few words.

    When Suzuki stepped up to the podium to speak at the event, he put on the iconic red hat, prompting Trump to hug him.

    “I love you all. I love you all. Thank you,” Suzuki said.

    “Mr. President, me and my teammates — first of all, we would like to thank you for having us here. This is an incredible honor that I think all of us will never forget. And we would also like to thank you for keeping everyone here safe in our country and continuing to make America the greatest country to live in the world,” first baseman Ryan Zimmerman also told Trump.

    RWNJ extraordinaire

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    • BackRowHeckler November 4, 2019 at 6:04 pm #

      Good post, my friend.

      So it’s only Dolittle who made an ass out of himself, insulting the President, refusing to attend the WH ceremony.

      Well, F##kk that dooshbag.


    • Majella November 7, 2019 at 2:11 am #

      …and FFvCS copped a feel.

  26. Pucker November 4, 2019 at 6:00 pm #

    Sexual deviancy to the Romans did not turn upon whether a man slept with another man, but rather whether the man allowed himself to be used as a woman by another man.

    For the Romans, it seems that sex was a Power Relationship?

    Apparently, in Ancient Rome, it was “Cool” for a socially “Superior” bloke to force himself upon a social “Inferior”. I’m not sure what Holland means by this, but he must be talking about Security Clearances? Tulsi Gabbard has a Top Level Security Clearance, and she can fuck me anytime! Hubba Hubba…. Apparently, in Ancient Rome, a “Master” relieving himself sexually on a slave was no different than him taking a wiz.

    “Dominion”, Tom Holland

    • hmuller November 4, 2019 at 6:37 pm #

      You’re absolutely correct, Pucker. In the classical world, most Roman emperors (indeed, most powerful men) had their boy toys; and it was considered no big deal.

      There’s a scene in Stanley Kubrick’s movie “Spartacus” where Lawrence Olivier (playing a Roman General) tells the slave boy Tony Curtis ‘get ready, here it comes’. But Tony Curtis runs away before Olivier can deliver. The material was so shocking back in 1960, the scene was heavily edited to where it barely made any sense.

      The Roman emperor Elagabulus (reigned 218-222 AD);broke with tradition and shocked public morality by rolling over and taking it up the wazoo like a lowly slave or a woman. His own grandmother persuaded the Praetorian Guard to kill him. And they were glad to do it.

      This gave rise to the Roman motto “Always a pitcher, and never a catcher!” which sounds better in Latin.

      OK, I made up that last part.

    • malthuss November 4, 2019 at 6:40 pm #

      same w Cubans, etc..the guy on top is hetero.

  27. sunburstsoldier November 4, 2019 at 6:12 pm #

    often rightly accuse The Left of being incapable of thinking rationally, or in a reality-based manner. This is because their capacity to reason has been subverted by a naive tendency to replace empirical reality with ideological dogma. Ideology becomes their reality. What happens when we replace reality with ideology? We become trapped in what we know subliminally are a set of false beliefs and assumptions about life. We also lose the capacity for creatively interacting with the greater environment. The fossilization of our thought process leads to underlying anxiety and alienation. This helps explain the unhinged anger demonstrated by Progressives, as well as their incapacity to tolerate a viewpoint opposed to their own which might upturn their fantasy world.

    RWNJ extraordinaire

  28. Vlad the Impaler November 4, 2019 at 6:39 pm #

    Interesting to hear her story (and his attempt to whitewash himself) from the piece of shit who betrayed her: Patrick Byrne


  29. Q. Shtik November 4, 2019 at 6:56 pm #

    Here’s a link to today’s NYT op-ed piece by Charles M. Blow. Charles is quite pissed at Whitey…what else is new?


    I would like to see a reply to this piece authored by our own Janos Skorenzy. I can think of no one more up to the task.

    • JohnAZ November 4, 2019 at 8:02 pm #

      Charles Blow is a lousy spokesman for the Black cause. He should take lessons on decent speech from the lady he idolizes. He is a real help on race relations, like spraying gasoline on a fire. His obvious hatred of all things White is a Black equivalent of David Duke.

    • stelmosfire November 5, 2019 at 8:26 am #

      Did you read some of the comments on that article Q? As a white man (Caveman) I would be doing most of the commenters a favor if I offed myself. Talk about racism, the commenters sound like the most racis’ people out there.

  30. tucsonspur November 4, 2019 at 7:40 pm #

    Jim, thanks for the great summaries of the perpetraitors’ ongoing misdeeds.

    “How Far Will They Go?”

    How low is low, how far is it to the bottom, how much self respect can you lose and still live with yourself? You get to the point where your behavior is so despicable, that it must be the perceived righteousness of your ideology that keeps you going.

    SAD is trying to get a grip on me as the cold moves in, and the Days of the Dead are just over. I’ve had enough of Poe and “Ulalume” and the “Raven”. How low can you go? See here, time for some cheer!


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    • 100th Avatar November 4, 2019 at 7:58 pm #

      Reading his weekly/bi-weekly updates on the deep state coup while witnessing a populace programmed and misinformed right before one’s eyes always bring this quote to my mind:

      A lot of good arguments are spoiled by some fool who knows what he is talking about

      – Miguel de Unamuno

    • Majella November 5, 2019 at 4:18 am #

      “ How low is low, how far is it to the bottom, how much self respect can you lose and still live with yourself? You get to the point where your behavior is so despicable, that it must be the perceived righteousness of your ideology that keeps you going.”

      A good question – one I ask myself on a daily basis when I read or see the cringeworthy toadying of the Trump Cultists.

      • Nightowl November 5, 2019 at 7:27 am #

        What is the crime? Where is the evidence?


        • benr November 5, 2019 at 11:31 am #

          Her Truth verses reality or lack there of.
          She hates Trump what more is needed?
          It does not have to be coherent or even rise to the level of actual truth or fact only what she believes and spews endlessly.

          • hmuller November 6, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

            So true, Majella spews more than Linda Blair in the Exorcist, projectile vomiting hate. Maybe the root cause is the same?

        • Majella November 7, 2019 at 2:22 am #

          Are you SERIOUS?

        • Majella November 7, 2019 at 2:23 am #

          Can you not see you’ve become Cultists?

          • hmuller November 7, 2019 at 10:18 am #

            Can you not see you’ve become a Cultist? Do you ever read what JHK writes? It might open your eyes to who the enemies of democracy, truth, and freedom are!

          • hmuller November 7, 2019 at 10:23 am #

            And do you actually believe sticking a label on something or someone marks a great milestone in the discovery of truth?

            No, it’s just something very subjective people like to do. “Oh, that guy is a racist! She’s a Communist! He’s one of them AGW denier!”

            You like the label “cultist” Great! Use it as often as GA writes “spurious”. It matters not.

  31. 100th Avatar November 4, 2019 at 7:46 pm #

    I jumped on-board during the Suburban Sprawl days and weathered the Peak Oil era, but I have to say that JHK 3.0, a version that combines investigative reporting and untangling the web of lies and dystopian misinformation along with exposing the total hysteria and capitulation to insanity of the so-called “thinking class”, intellectuals”, “elite”, and patrician/ruling class may be his best work yet.

    His determination in elucidating the facts in spite of the cacophony of billion dollar mass media lies and government misinformation is breathtaking. Bravo

    • tucsonspur November 4, 2019 at 7:59 pm #

      What was once said of W.F. Buckley can now also be said (in large part) of Mr. JHK:

      “A stowaway foretopman on the ship of state; a franc-tireur for the West and Christendom; a Burke, a Roland, a Quixote, with a whiff of Falstaff and a swing of the snickersnee.”

      • 100th Avatar November 4, 2019 at 8:21 pm #

        Excellent! In one of Ambrose Bierce’s farewell missives to his audience he wrote:

        “Be as decent as you can. Don’t believe without evidence. Treat things divine with marked respect — don’t have anything to do with them. Do not trust humanity without collateral security; it will play you some scurvy trick. Remember that it hurts no one to be treated as an enemy entitled to respect until he shall prove himself a friend worthy of affection. Cultivate a taste for distasteful truths. And, finally, most important of all, endeavor to see things as they are, not as they ought to be.”

        and went on to say that the only talent he possessed was “…his knack of hating hypocrisy, cant, and all sham, and a trick of expressing this hatred”

        • BackRowHeckler November 4, 2019 at 9:45 pm #

          And then … he disappeared into the Sierra Madre.

          • Epicur November 5, 2019 at 10:33 am #

            “And then … he disappeared into the Sierra Madre.”

            After writing that it would be suicidal for any American to go into Mexico at that time.

    • cmjcj2k November 4, 2019 at 8:45 pm #

      I agree wholeheartedly, just this piece alone articulates the true narrative so beautifully and concisely, how do we get this into every home in America?

  32. JohnAZ November 4, 2019 at 8:27 pm #

    The word HATRED. I do not remember that word being used like it is today in my lifetime. It is currently being used to describe the relationship of all things that oppose one another. Our hatred infatuation is leading us down a very dangerous path.

    Remember the Dark side of the force? It’s basis was hatred! As the country has traveled down the Hatred Highway, its ability to stay united is deteriorating quickly.

    Do people really hate today? Yes, I believe they do and it follows the decline in decency in the country. The decline of morality, of religion, of the neighborhood, of the commonality of service to the public good. The last thing is no more evident than in our wonderful Federal government, the source of much of the hatred in our society.

    • JohnAZ November 4, 2019 at 8:31 pm #

      Yeah, the Federal government, the Deep State using its divide and conquer techniques to maintain power is the source of much of the Hatred fostering now along with their spokesmen like Charles Blow.

    • Epicur November 5, 2019 at 5:35 pm #

      A lot of what is called hatred today is more like the impulses that drive one troop of howler monkeys to line up to howl and fling feces at another troop of the same species. There are many beneficial effects (survival values) of doing it, one of which is spacing the population out so that diseases cannot spread, another is not stressing the environment with overpopulation.

      We are told we don’t need to worry about such things. What a relief.

      • Majella November 7, 2019 at 2:31 am #

        Epicur : a perfect analogy. It’s just tribe v. tribe…lots of fun in here, but deadly serious in the real world.

  33. K-Dog November 4, 2019 at 8:29 pm #

    October 31, 2019
    Cortinas de humo
    “When a society is collapsing, all it can really do is beat off”–Horace J. Hardmember IV

    It means smokescreens, which is what politics in the US and UK now boil down to. America beat off for 2 years with the Mueller Report–which came to nothing–and is now jerking off with impeachment, which will give us another year of meaningless distraction. It’s little more than theater: party lines are so hard these days, that there is abs. no chance Trumpi will be convicted by the Senate (which requires a 2/3 vote). In addition, the impeachment–which probably will happen–can only serve to energize Trumpo’s base, and win him the election for a second term. From the viewpoint of a declinist, what could be better? Trumpaloni has done a huge amount of damage since January 2017, and I believe we can look forward to even greater damage during his 2nd term. And then, god willing, he’ll cancel the 2024 election and declare himself president for life. OK by me, amigos. So there’s nothing to worry about, and only one thing to remember: Brexit, Schmexit. Also: Opa!

    -Morris Berman

    • capt spaulding November 4, 2019 at 9:25 pm #

      You call it out pretty well, K-Dog. There will be an impeachment attempt, but it’ll wind up shipwrecked on limp-dick island. Like you say: it will energize Trump’s base, is all that will happen. In a way, this is just like watching Jonestown happen again. Pass the Kool-Aid.

      • BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 6:09 am #


        We already know you hate President Trump

        Who do you like?

        • capt spaulding November 5, 2019 at 11:33 am #

          Whoever appears to be the least corrupt is the one I’ll vote for. It’s gonna take some time to figure it out. I already know that no one is perfect, but then I’ve always known that. It’s reality.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 4, 2019 at 11:42 pm #

      Yes, we need a Strong Man. Our System has failed in other words. Trump is far from an Ideal one, but he is the one available and beats anything nutcase the Dems have to offer.

  34. Pucker November 4, 2019 at 8:37 pm #

    How Far Will They Go?

    They’re pretty Fuck’n Crazy…..

    I think that it was the “God Damned Lawyers” in the Church who collated the church canons and Papal and other “Decrees” that were most responsible for Christianity’s defeat of Paganism and the rapid spread of Christianity across Europe? I think that Christianity found a firm psychological footing in European sadomasochism, particularly in Germany? The European woman seemed particularly enamored with the masochistic impulse of self-flagellation and self-abrogation in the extreme sufferings of Christ. And, similarly, the European men found salvation in inflicting extreme pain on the woman? See the sadistic edifying discipline of Conrad vis-a-vis the masochistic torture of the Princess Lady Elizabeth. I think that it was this religious sadomasochism and the power that it brought to its perpetrators that gave birth to the Inquisition? Beto was trying time start an Inquisition by declaring that it’s not enough to not be a racist, rather one had to hunt down and destroy racism. Beto is such a Punk.

    What was the name of the Geezer who invented the “Christianity” as we know it that took Europe by storm? Was it Boniface?

    “Christianity”, albeit based on the teachings of Christ, is in many ways antithetical to the teachings of Jesus, right? “Christianity” seems somewhat “Organic” to the European mindset? Almost like Capitalism? Or, Fascism? Or, Communism?

  35. cmjcj2k November 4, 2019 at 8:42 pm #

    This is far and away the most coherent and concise assessment of the past 3-4 years of our Nation’s history that I’ve seen.

    How do you get this article into every hand and home in the United States?

    I fear too many are under the controller’s “spell” from the mainstream media, intelligence community, etc.

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  36. Pucker November 4, 2019 at 9:00 pm #

    The rampant, ubiquitous dishonesty is amazing. I think that even some of the die hards were taken aback by Beto’s Fuck Off of his supporters. All that pious pontificating was just superficial social media manipulation…. It’s all just about their jobs and their careers and money….

    • JohnAZ November 4, 2019 at 9:10 pm #

      Yup, the fingerprint of the Deep State and its aspirants.

    • SoftStarLight November 5, 2019 at 10:24 am #

      Yes, its all about the Benjamins.

  37. PeteAtomic November 4, 2019 at 11:10 pm #

    Thanks, Jim

    In this last week, CIA operatives Brennan and McLaughlin were at a neo-con forum somewhere in the bowel of the Swamp (The Schar School of Policy and Government), when McLaughlin gave his “thank God for the Deep State” comment which drew applause from his grey haired fellow vampires & proto-fascists in the audience.

    John E. McLaughlin. Acting CIA director under Bush 2. Ran the torture program post 911. He also was totally on board in the invasion of Iraq 2003 under the guise of finding WMD, only to argue that the CIA assessment was ‘taken out of context’ and Iraq didn’t really have either nuclear weapons, or ‘vast quantities of WMDs.

    There are many, many more actions you can research yourself. Brennan and McLaughlin in the CIA, and Peter Strzok in the FBI– are representatives for organizations which want a global neo-imperial framework abroad, and a security state at home based on unlimited surveillance & domestic spying programs.

    These people are literally the architects of the Inner Party of Orwell’s novel, 1984. This permanent bureaucracy isn’t only Trump’s enemy alone– they are the enemy of anybody who cherishes privacy, personal choice, and the freedom of thought.

  38. malthuss November 4, 2019 at 11:42 pm #



    • malthuss November 4, 2019 at 11:42 pm #

      systemic ray cysts

    • ellipsis November 5, 2019 at 7:02 am #

      The weasel fight was better. Looks like a D and an R going at it.

    • BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 7:12 am #

      Buttgieg is polling at 0% with black voters. That’s ZER-0.

      Blacks just aren’t that fond of homosexuals, ‘specially little white weasley ones.


      • BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 7:20 am #

        IOW I can’t see Chasten — Buttgieg’s ‘husband’ — giving the keynote address at next summer’s NAACP convention. Can you?

        • hmuller November 6, 2019 at 12:22 pm #

          He’s a man-child obsessed with Harry Potter. That should make for great conversations at the spouse’s luncheons during summit meetings.

      • 100th Avatar November 5, 2019 at 7:38 am #

        Wait ‘til he starts promising stuff

      • sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 9:16 am #

        Who thinks Trump is ”weak’…

      • elysianfield November 5, 2019 at 11:47 am #

        “Blacks just aren’t that fond of homosexuals, ‘specially little white weasley ones”

        Ridiculous! That demographic is wildly popular in our prisons and jails….

      • malthuss November 5, 2019 at 11:50 am #

        so many of the males are homo–down low.

        • BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 1:08 pm #

          Well, I suggested to Buttgieg he start using Pedro instead of Pete, Buttgieg. And wear a sombrero every once in awhile. If he can garner the illegal alien vote it might put him over the top.


  39. BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 6:05 am #

    My God, what’s going south of the border? It seems like the violence and bloodshed in Mexico is as bad as anything we saw with ISIS in Syria and Iraq about 5 years ago. Actually the methods of murder are quite similar, beheading, torture and humiliation before being shot etc. Yesterday 5 members of a Mormon community — Americans, women and little ones — were wiped out in an ambush. How about the Mayor of a small city pulled out of his office, tied to the back of a pickup, and dragged around town? There might be 50,000 murders in Mexico this year.

    It’s hard to believe in times past this is where writers as disparate as Hart Crane, Katherine Ann Porter, DH Lawrence and Malcolm Lowry went for inspiration.

    As an aside, I think the Dems should re examine their stated policy of opening the southern borders and abolishing ICE. We already have enough of our own trouble here without importing more.


    • sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 9:20 am #

      Pure insanity. I saw a sign in front of a house in my neighborhood which read ‘no human is Illegal’. How mixed up and ignorant can you get. This is all part of the tendency of many to selectively focus on what part of an issue, probably out of sheer laziness…

    • SoftStarLight November 5, 2019 at 10:23 am #

      Now really Brh, how inconsiderate of you. You know we can accommodate several more hundreds of millions of these wonderful and integral new migrants into our society. They are the ones who truly breath life into our communities. They are the blood of the nation according to the friends of the Chamber of Commerce. Shucks, why not try to bring a few billion in. When you dream, dream big!

      • BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 1:10 pm #

        Dream Big!

        That’s what Liz Warren is saying about her $52 trillion medicare for all program.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 1:26 pm #

      Good article about a manifesto “The Plan of San Diego” written back in 1915 in San Diego calling on Mexicans to drive out or kill the Whites in South Texas. It even calls on other races to join in. Interesting, eh? It prefigures much of today’s mindset. And it was influential, inciting much violence against Whites in Texas. But of course Whites back then were different: We gave better than we got, on both the official level (Black Jack Pershing) on on the level of Vigilantism.

      The document is anonymous. Very interesting. Early Communists, perhaps? Maybe not even a Hispanic author? Anyway here tis:


  40. BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 6:12 am #

    Ok, its 3 American mothers and 9 children wiped out in NMexico yesterday.

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    • 100th Avatar November 5, 2019 at 7:37 am #

      And what exactly makes polygamists from a wackadoo cult/mental vurus hiding out in ole Mexico ‘murican, or more valuable than the tens of thousands of Mexicans, also Americans, murdered every year?

      • BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 1:05 pm #


        There have been Mormon settlements in Mexico since the 1870s.

    • stelmosfire November 5, 2019 at 8:42 am #

      Whats that you say? Don’t gun laws work in Mexico? There is one, that’s one!, gun store in all of Mexico, a country of 127,000,000 people. Who needs a gun store when Obama and Holder are handing them out for free.

      • SoftStarLight November 5, 2019 at 10:20 am #

        Interesting how they got away with all of that without much wailing and gnashing of teeth. Their decisions directly resulted in mass murder but we are now attempting to impeach a President over a phone call and that is much more egregious and worthy of punishment.

  41. Nightowl November 5, 2019 at 7:43 am #

    Update on the Flynn case:

    Sidney Powell has the DS by the short hairs but appears to not want to get the case dismissed without humiliating them. She is moving to force them to show Brady material.


    This is a lawyer.


  42. sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 9:14 am #

    What do you folks (here in the USA) consider a more serious political issue, the Deep State or the National Debt?

    Is there any connection between the two, which is to say, is the Deep State and the National Debt part of the same underlying problem?

    RWNJ extraordinaire

    • Epicur November 5, 2019 at 12:23 pm #

      As a “political issue” only the Deep State exists and that issue is about a political struggle not unlike the War of the Roses, i.e. a struggle between political factions for control of a polity. We common folk are pawns in that battle – nothing more.

      The National Debt is not an issue in the sense that some powerful faction actually intends to deal with it in any way other than “kicking the can” further down the road. Do not be fooled, when the credit expansion ends the economic pie will shrink so drastically that our political structure will be transformed or swept aside. There is a great deal of maneuvering behind the scenes having to do with the political structure that will take shape when the expansion ends, but we common folk have nothing to do with that issue.

  43. sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 9:34 am #

    Former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer made it to the next round of ABC’s hit show Dancing With the Stars last night, beating competitors with his loyal fan base.

    Spicer’s survival week after week has the left up in arms. The judges on the show don’t seem impressed either.

    The left’s fury has been on display for weeks. In fact, the Daily Show dedicated an entire segment to tearing him down.

    Is this a forecast of things to come next November?

    RWNJ extraordinaire

    • SoftStarLight November 5, 2019 at 9:58 am #

      The Leftist/RINO/Elitist axis is committed to any form of destruction necessary to achieve its goals. Whether it is murdering Seth Rich, replacing whole populations by disabling law and border enforcement and encouraging and supporting unmitigated migration (only from third world countries), or disenfranchising millions of voters via a bureaucratic coup. They do not care who has to be murdered or what has to be destroyed. Nothing is sacred except for their Idols of Power and Money. Nothing will stop them except for force. And if they are not stopped they will ensure the destruction of all of their enemies which include most of us here as they practically hold all of the cards now.

      • sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 10:04 am #

        Jesus SSL, how do you sleep at night?

        • SoftStarLight November 5, 2019 at 10:24 am #

          I often don’t.

          • sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 10:52 am #

            I’m a bit of a ‘whole worlder’ myself (which is not the same as a globalist). My ideal of a New World Order is thousands of Independent Regions, each self-governed with its own unique culture and ways of life…

            As Bucky Fuller once said ‘we are all passengers on Spaceship Earth’…

          • JohnAZ November 5, 2019 at 11:04 am #


            You have described the world during the Middle Ages under feudalism. A lot of us CFNers think that is where the Long Emergency is heading.

          • SoftStarLight November 5, 2019 at 11:07 am #

            It is a beautiful vision and ultimately one that I could embrace. It would appear to follow a more Biblically oriented world view. The problem is human nature. We always tend to centralize everything and standardize everything. For convenience and profit at the end of the day presumably. Thus all of humanity tried to centralize itself to build the Tower of Babel. But God wanted us separate and apart. Likely, your worldview is a similar worldview He had in mind for us. But here we are again trying to centralize, standardize, and genericize our existence entirely. All to our own detriment.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 1:36 pm #

            And SB – that also mean each “area” controls their own borders so that inferior cultures can’t swamp superior ones. And as the Urantia book teaches, those superior cultures will be all about Race and keeping the superior bloodlines from being sullied by hostile, aggressive inferiors who have an eye for your daughters. And truth be told, they for them. Kids are at that level of swagger and female sexuality is just as primitive as the male.

            Your Vision is opaque and pastel since you won’t get into these nitty gritties. Are they “regions” or are they Nations? Because if they’re not Nations (and just regions), they are going to be controlled by the Globalists who will insist on open borders, leveling down, and standardization.

            Knock off the fuzzy crap and get real. An engineer or even a carpenter knows his materials. The latter won’t try and make Pine or Elm do what only Oak or Cherry can do. Or the former won’t expect mere Iron to have the flexibility and strength of steel. Just so with People: humans have a general nature. And within that, the Races have different likes and capacities.

      • JohnAZ November 5, 2019 at 11:01 am #


        Root for Sean!

        • capt spaulding November 5, 2019 at 11:38 am #

          Nobody can dance like a lying Republican.

    • JohnAZ November 5, 2019 at 11:00 am #

      DWTS is a showcase of the Hollywood Leftist elites. The attitudes of the judges last night was disgusting, as it is the rules of the show regarding the audience impact that allows lesser talented folks to continue on. Obviously, Sean’s audience is huge, enough to offset lower scores by the judges. So be it. Bobby Bones, the winner of the last Mirror Ball, was a low talent guy that the audience gave the prize to. The show took a big hit because of the discrepancy and changed the rules so the judges have direct choice between the last two couples. But if Sean’s audience wins put him not in the final two lowest scores, the judges cannot eliminate him. He cannot win the final prize because the judges will eventually have him in the lowest two and his very obvious lack of talent will eliminate him by the judges.

      It is the obvious arrogance by the judges and the moderators that is disgusting. Sean knows he is in the position he is, and is gracious each week against the smart mouthed judges.

      This is a problem with the show, not Sean. Will the Left ever just STFU and be gracious. Not in their DNA I guess.


      If Sean was to do what Bobby Bones did last show. It would be the end of the show, and they know it. Sean cannot win, but it is fun seeing the public short-circuiting these Liberal jerks plans.


      The amount of money spent on this show is amazing.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 1:39 pm #

        I’ll have to tune it. I had no idea about this recent drama. He tried before and flunked out, didn’t he? He must have taken lessons since. Good on him. Get back on the ‘orse that bucked ye.

      • sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 7:19 pm #

        Personally I couldn’t sit through 5 minutes of Dancing with the Stars or The Voice for that matter…

  44. 100th Avatar November 5, 2019 at 9:39 am #

    Cartels taking out a polygamist family from a sect of religious nutters that produced the Romney family?

    Put them on the payroll.

    • SoftStarLight November 5, 2019 at 9:49 am #

      This is just the beginning so don’t you worry. Next, they will be coming for you.

    • sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 9:51 am #

      That’s a bit harsh don’t you think? We’re talking women and children here…

      Whatever you may think of the Mormon religion, or Romney in particular, the Mormon community as a whole remains an important part of the remaining moral fibre of this country don’t you think?

      RWNJ extraordinaire

      • GreenAlba November 5, 2019 at 10:47 am #

        Indeed, sunburst. And they just told me they didn’t like you taking the name of the Lord in vain a few comments up. 🙂

        • sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 10:56 am #

          I got a thing going with Jesus so I can get away with it…

          • sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 10:59 am #

            I tend to give people slack for the beliefs they hold even when they are way off the mark. In the end we are not defined by our beliefs but our inner essence which is largely ineffable…

          • SoftStarLight November 5, 2019 at 12:59 pm #

            Actions speak louder than words. Actions are driven by beliefs. Beliefs are like the eyes. They are windows to the Soul. Can they change? Sure. Doesn’t that often involve life experience and growth? It would seem beliefs are more deeply tied to the inner essence than what you are indicating here.

          • GreenAlba November 5, 2019 at 1:10 pm #

            “Can they change? Sure. Doesn’t that often involve life experience and growth? ”

            Yep, that’s how it worked for me.

          • GreenAlba November 5, 2019 at 1:21 pm #

            “Actions are driven by beliefs. ”

            But not exactly in the way you think…


          • SoftStarLight November 5, 2019 at 2:32 pm #

            I am going to take the time to read this more thoroughly later tonight when I have some time. But I will say that you do know about the Holy Spirit. I know you do. Not all answers are provided to us in the Scriptures. And of course since we are always growing and conforming ourselves to different situations one can see how not all of our moral behavior is being dictated by our religious beliefs.

          • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 1:24 am #

            OMG I agree with you. But! I see it differently than you do. So the article concluded by stating that our morality ultimately comes from within us. That is definitely true. You will recall from your days of belief that God said His laws are written on our hearts. So we innately know right from wrong from the beginning. And I do realize you won’t believe such a thing now but you have to admit its pretty interesting how the article concludes the same thing as the Bible.

          • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 7:30 am #

            “OMG I agree with you. But! I see it differently than you do.”

            Of course you do. There is nothing you can say to a religious person that they won’t twist to fit what they already believe. It’s in the job description.

            We get our morality from a variety of things, from our individual personalities (e.g. our varying levels of empathy or authoritarianism) and from our culture (from parents, friends, teachers, and everyone else surrounding us). So some of our morality will be of the hand-me-down variety and some will be well thought out as we develop, observe and reason.

            As we grow up we question what we took for granted from our parents, for example. And so we should, if we are to develop into adults. Just as at one stage of growth you might believe everything in the Bible is true just because a bunch of people who matter in your life told you it is, so, as you grow and develop, you dare to look into who wrote all the books of the Bible, when, in what circumstances, how long after the events (and ‘events’), who decided what would go in it and why they left out what they left out, etc. etc. etc. And you make up your own mind. It should be enough for you to know that not all Christians have the same Bible – which one did ‘God’ approve? And when you’ve given your answer to that, what gave you the right to decide?

            But you will obviously find that some things that are in the Bible will be similar to some things (morally speaking) that people believe and act on without having ever read the Bible. That’s because the Bible was written by a whole array of human beings and human beings have evolved empathy and morality (with some exceptions, e.g. psychopaths), along with, for example, irrational prejudices, so it’s what you would expect. And they’ve tried to codify it. They’re not the only ones.

            Clearly, if you’re already tied into a religious belief system, you’ll want to believe stuff about ‘God’ writing in your heart, because it fits your narrative.

            The rest of us know that makes no sense, because 10 passionate and well-meaning Christian people can interpret the morality of a situation 10 different ways. So we can conclude that either ‘God’ has messy handwriting or it’s just a metaphor used by people who’ve already created their own overarching metaphor. Which is fine, for them.

          • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 11:12 am #

            I am hearing dual messages within this explanation of things. One, you indicated that people develop their own moral codes and most people’s values overlap in such a way that most people can generally agree mostly on what is right and what is wrong. Let me know if I made that part up in my head but it seems that is what you have said in so many words here and on other threads. But then we get to a discrepancy. Because then when I say, “well gee that is because God wrote the moral codes on our hearts” then you disagree with me. I know you disagree with me because I said God did it. But you are essentially saying that a somewhat generic moral code is built into us and then we refine it and tailor it for ourselves given our circumstances and our world. Am I getting that correct or do you differ with the conclusion I am coming to here?

          • Majella November 7, 2019 at 2:43 am #

            Tongue in cheek or just religious delusion?

        • SoftStarLight November 5, 2019 at 10:57 am #

          Oh they did, did they. Please point me to the comment as I love to be up to speed on everything going on :-). It’s hard to imagine the godless caring about taking the Lord’s name in vain but I can always be surprised.

          • sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 11:03 am #

            I think GreenAlba was being humorous. Note the smiley face…

          • SoftStarLight November 5, 2019 at 11:09 am #

            And remember, someone can smile at you while twisting the knife in your back. Smiles can be deceptive. Just a warning to the wise and all….

          • capt spaulding November 5, 2019 at 11:41 am #

            Scientology: Making Mormons look normal since 1956.

          • SoftStarLight November 5, 2019 at 11:46 am #

            Always the joker are you Captain? I get a little chuckle when I notice that Atheists make Scientologists look normal.

          • GreenAlba November 5, 2019 at 1:08 pm #

            SSL, really, get a grip. You remind me of Annelle in Steel Magnolias. 🙂


          • SoftStarLight November 5, 2019 at 2:26 pm #

            I am glad to hear that because I won’t suffer a heathen either and you’ll be the wiser for accepting good behavior and love of the Lord for starters. Should I come over to your place and start pouring out alcohol? We can also gather to pray anywhere you like.

          • GreenAlba November 5, 2019 at 7:29 pm #

            “I am glad to hear that because I won’t suffer a heathen either ”

            You won’t suffer a heathen doing what? Breathing?

            No idea what the rest is about but you seem to be suggesting, yet again, that religious people are more moral than non-religious people, which has been shown over and over again to be untrue. What is true, in all investigations into the matter, is that religious people believe themselves to be more moral, which is not quite the same thing, but it certainly affects their judgement of other people.

            If you have a Lord I’m happy for you to love him. But don’t try insisting on other people sharing your imaginings and and we’ll all be fine and dandy. You live by your dogmas and I’ll live by my morality.

          • PeteAtomic November 5, 2019 at 9:15 pm #

            If Green Alba is like most Celtic women I’ve known, she’s in touch with her fay ways 😉

          • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 1:05 am #

            Well she told me that she doesn’t believe in magic, or giants, or fairies, or dryads, or God. But I continue to think that she actually does believe. That’s why our conversations always tend to move toward spiritual issues. Isn’t that so interesting how that happens!

          • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 1:11 am #

            And Alba, you realize I was enjoying a bit of humor with your bit of humor you shared. I wouldn’t pour your alcohol out unless you required an intervention – or got on my nerves. And I wouldn’t insist on you praying though I simply don’t see how in the world it would hurt anyone to pray and I would encourage you to be open-minded ;-).

          • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 8:57 am #

            ” But I continue to think that she actually does believe. That’s why our conversations always tend to move toward spiritual issues. Isn’t that so interesting how that happens!”

            Do you actually hear yourself? Do try.

            The conversation ‘moved’ that way simply because I made a very brief humorous remark to sunburst, and, as ever, you leapt in and made something of it. The only reason I made the humorous remark in the first place was my recollection that if I’d said ‘Jesus’ in that manner – or even ‘oh my God!’, my parents – at any stage in my life, even fully adult – would have had an attack of the vapours.

            I try to avoid your endless Jesusification of everything under the sun. Really I do. But it never stops, so it’s hard to never respond.

            But am I surprised at your need to believe that, deep in my heart of hearts, I believe the opposite of what I say? No, not at all. Some of you are just like that. It’s part of the package.

          • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 11:05 am #

            I didn’t leap into the conversation Alba. Please look at the thread. I was already part of the conversation. You leaped in with the humorous remark. Not that I am complaining about that. I enjoy your participation in our conversations. But let’s just do get the sequence of these things correct :-). Now as far as Jesusification of everything, well, I assume guilt on that matter with joy. Forgive me for trying to include the King of the Universe in as many conversations as I can. I know you don’t recognize Him and ultimately I don’t chide you for that. We debate but I have never told you that you must convert or else. So I ultimately don’t understand why you are upset that I do try to include my values and the Lord in our discussions. I certainly don’t do that with the intent of disturbing or upsetting you. And I am not saying you are communicating the exact opposite of what you truly believe. I am simply indicating that it is my thought that you struggle with this but or not necessarily maybe even aware of your inner struggle with spirituality. I understand your points and appreciate that you are comfortable within the moral system that you have established for your world. I am not looking down on you for that.

          • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 5:43 pm #

            You misunderstand me, SSL. I am not upset. Neither have I any wish for you to stop wrapping any subject under the sun in the Glory of the Lord.

            I didn’t ask you to justify yourself. You don’t need my blessing to keep Jesusifying whatever you like – I was merely pointing out that it mostly makes me skip on to the next comment without further ado and look for something that involves more thought than indoctrination.

            But how kind of you not to ‘chide’ me.

            ” I am simply indicating that it is my thought that you struggle with this but or not necessarily maybe even aware of your inner struggle with spirituality.”

            I do so love being patronised by someone less than half my years who nevertheless thinks she can read me better than I can read myself. But, as I said, with religious people you do have to get used to such attitudes. 🙂

          • PeteAtomic November 6, 2019 at 8:09 pm #


            it starts to real good around :19 sec. .. u are heeeallledddd….

          • GreenAlba November 7, 2019 at 4:00 pm #

            OMG, And I haven’t even got sound.

            No wonder the comments are turned off. 🙂

      • 100th Avatar November 5, 2019 at 11:47 am #

        It’s only an issue because they’re white.
        If they were mestizo Mormons or just plain Mexican nobody would care.


        This is the epitome of privilege.

        Can’t accept the laws of USA so you move to Mexico, because ironically, it’s actually more free, but if your harem is murdered, no worries… you’re one of us.

        • SoftStarLight November 5, 2019 at 12:54 pm #

          You’re right! Eric Holder and Barack Hussein Obama never cared how many Mexicans had to be murdered if they could achieve gun confiscation here with their gun running scheme. I assume you are outraged at them?

          • 100th Avatar November 5, 2019 at 1:29 pm #

            You’re one dim light

          • SoftStarLight November 5, 2019 at 2:20 pm #

            Why? I noticed you didn’t respond to my question so I assume you can’t handle it and are thus lashing out at me. That is fine. I really don’t care. Your prior statement is what hurt me. Yes, it did literally hurt my feelings that you would say such a thing. And feelings do matter so you triggered me and I asked you for information. I am asking you kindly though to let me know why this is ok with you? Do you literally believe all religious people should be executed or all White people or both? I know you dislike humanity generally and that is another point that saddens me but you are choosing this route.

          • Majella November 5, 2019 at 3:45 pm #

            “…achieve gun confiscation here with their gun running scheme.”

            I’d appreciate it if you could possibly try to explain that thinking. I cannot grasp ANY sense from it.

          • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 1:29 am #

            Look up “Fast and Furious” scandal and read all about it.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 1:41 pm #

          Well said. Are you trying to make us care less about our own Race than we naturally do? You care more about Jews than Us I assume, right?

          • 100th Avatar November 5, 2019 at 2:45 pm #

            I care least about those that identify as an other, and work in collusion to support their otherness particularly when it is grounded in fantasy, fiction, and human imagination. AKA religion. When your motivation is in support of those infected or in furtherance of the viral mental meme that infects your thought process. I take aim.
            Promised lands

            All symptoms

          • Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 4:44 pm #

            So what are you for? Transhumanism? Eternal Life with our brains in Robot Bodies? If we both make it, I will duel with you in Robot Combat, Android against Android, Metal Mano a Metal Mano.

            Or perhaps our battle will be in cyber space with our brains perserved in soup somewhere, perhaps even right next to each other. He who loses in cyber space, his brain will die in “real” space. Thems the rules. Imposed by no one except reality itself.

        • malthuss November 5, 2019 at 6:12 pm #

          You’re one dim light–you project my dear it.

  45. JohnAZ November 5, 2019 at 11:16 am #

    I wonder why it seems folks everywhere are choosing to be more dependent on government and less dependent on themselves. Could it be High Tech? Maybe urbanization? Or just too many people?

    Everywhere in the world!

    Could be socialism is the only method that will operate in the future, maybe at much smaller scales, ie feudalism. We have all evolved from very small states surrounding ethnicity or even family as the cement that bonds them together. Germany and Italy waited until the 1800s to unify into nations.

    Are we witnessing the opposite decentralization going on???

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    • Epicur November 5, 2019 at 1:25 pm #

      “I wonder why it seems folks everywhere are choosing to be more dependent on government and less dependent on themselves. ”

      Because government holds both the carrot and the stick. For most of human history Nature held both, and men had to deal with Nature directly, but the State stands between man and Nature, for now anyway.

    • sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 7:28 pm #

      Over-Specialization is the problem John. Separate the cog from the machine and the cog has lost its functional purpose. To be a self-reliant ‘generalist’ in Western Society is all but impossible unless you join a hippie commune and live off the land.

      • sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 10:51 pm #

        Or are highly creative like our hozt…

    • capt spaulding November 5, 2019 at 8:18 pm #

      JAZ: I think we are witnessing the beginning of the consequences of overpopulation, ie, global warming, starvation, extinction of animals, and so on.

      As far as socialism, it has been pointed out before by myself and others, that socialism is alive and well when it comes to the Oligarchs, and Capitalism is reserved for the lower classes. The first thing that comes to mind is the economic collapse brought about by (dare I say it?) the Republicans led by that fool “W”. After the collapse of all the financial institutions, like Goldman-Sax, etc, the government stepped in, picked up those poor little ones who had pooped all over themselves, cleaned them up, powdered those tiny bottoms, patted their little asses, and sent them off to play again. I hear they’re doing very well nowadays. That was the socialism.

      Of course it was explained to us citizens that if we didn’t clean up all that poop, that everything would collapse, and so as good citizens, we would have to bear the problems caused by the collapse. Those consequences were called Capitalism. Read about what the Icelanders did when their government tried to pull the same thing. You’ll see why they are the last of the Vikings. They’ve got balls.

      • hmuller November 6, 2019 at 10:10 am #

        I agree, Captain. And the little shits (the bankers) are doing it again. There is a gradually escalating credit crisis building which the MSM is not yet talking about. Eventually, they will talk about it; they won’t speak the truth but they’ll say something.

  46. volodya November 5, 2019 at 11:16 am #


    You took the bait as I expected.

    I did this to illustrate two points; 1) that people will refuse to see what’s right under their noses and 2) even if they see it, they will do their utmost to not understand, instead they will attach improbable self-comforting narratives. IOW there’s no limit to people’s self-deception. 

    OK, let’s assume you weren’t around 50 or 60 years ago to see the place as it was. It was pretty much like industrialized areas of the US, with mass employment in various manufactories at bread-winner wages. I know because I saw it myself, plus we had relatives in the areas we’re talking about, in the Great Lakes Basin, in both the US and Canada. 

    In Ontario, according to one study I read a while ago, ten thousand manufacturing facilities either closed outright or moved to Mexico or China in the last generation, much worse when you consider disparities in population, than the off-shoring from the US. 

    The exodus of manufacturing jobs hammered not only household finances but also governmental as their tax revenues dried up. If Ontario was sitting so pretty it would be visible in its balance sheets, if things were so hunky-dory, tax revenues would easily keep up with expenditures. Which they didn’t. 

    This is shown in its history. During John Robart’s tenure, Ontario’s debt was not quite two billion dollars, by 1995 it was over 100 billion dollars, by 2003 it was roughly 140 billion, and now it’s over 348 billion, according to you.

    Other places are worse? What’s your point? How does it help the horse to be the healthiest horse in the glue factory? To put it another way, it doesn’t count for beans if other people’s houses are burning worse than yours, you still have to put out the fire in your own premises.

    I’ve seen this a thousand times, people tying themselves up in logical knots, using financial ratios or comparative statistics, to deny the severity of what they’re facing. 

    I’ll point out the obvious, for non-EU countries that control their own currencies, the mechanism to avert an immediate debt calamity is money printing. But you just do this to buy some time. You can think of it as counterfeiting or confiscation or taxation by stealth, because that’s what it is, but this only works for NATIONAL governments, and not sub-national.

    But, unless a national government gets its shit together, and fast, even this money printing leads to financial collapse, and we’ve seen this a multitude of times, most recently in Venezuela. For unless you’re like the US, which you ain’t, and your currency is used as a reserve currency and is readily accepted world-wide, which the loonie isn’t, disaster quickly beckons. 

    But Ontario isn’t a national unit, so, last I checked, Ontario doesn’t have a printing press, and if I remember correctly, the finance minister of one of your Ontario administrations, socialist if I recall, was read the riot act by Big Money for saying in crude terms that the deficit doesn’t matter. Unless Ontario finds a way to print its own currency, it sure as hell does, and in a big way.    

    And if you’re counting on Mr Trudeau to bail you out, you might recall that your surfer boy is a Quebecker, and you being a Canadian, would know better than anybody, that prime minsters coming from Quebec (as much as nationalist-separatist Quebec politicians) are concerned with ONE thing; what’s good for Quebec. I give you SNC as exhibit A. Yeah, the word got around. See, in this globalized world, it’s not just people and money that flow over national borders, so does news, and so does financial contagion, which I trust answers some of your questions.

    But that latter point shouldn’t be news, in 2009 el presidente Harper and his generalissimo Flaherty had to set up a TARP-like fund of 75 billion to bail out Canada’s banks, much like the US fund of 750 billion, which is in direct proportion to population, so let’s not have any preening on that score. Like I said, CONTAGION. This is how it is, in this wonderful new world of no borders. If Ontario goes down, it takes down a lot more than Ontario. Capische?
    So, the obvious question arises, if Mr Trudeau goes to the current Ontario premier bearing loads of cash as a financial bail-out, guess what will be the first reaction from Quebec, not to mention Alberta; where’s our cut and why the fuck are we paying for those dick-heads?

    Can you say “national unity crisis”?

    Elrond, you face a choice. It’s like Yogi Berra said, when you come to a fork in the road, take it. 

    I’ll map it out for you in simpler terminology, walk around with your head up your ass, eventually ending up like Greece, or you can take this guy’s advice, which every time I feel overwhelmed by events, I listen to:


    By the way, I have zero expectation that Elrond actually read this. I did it for the other commenters, that they might get a bit of enjoyment, and maybe to stimulate some discussion.

    • Elrond Hubbard November 5, 2019 at 12:56 pm #

      volodya: “You took the bait as I expected.”


      Actually, volodya, I read through your entire thicket of words immediately. You should know by now that if there’s one thing I’m good at, it’s doing my homework. I’m sure it was gratifying, getting to spring your trap. I hope getting that all off your chest makes you feel better.

      Trying to take on that entire screed would be like trying to nail jell-o to the wall. You’re certainly not going to be persuaded by anything I say, and I’m also not interested in rewarding a self-proclaimed troll (‘bait’, indeed). So, I’ll just respond to your early point about narratives, self-comforting or otherwise, for the record.

      Narratives have things like protagonists and antagonists. They have stakes which create conflict, tension, expectations, foreshadowing, climax, resolution, and so on. Between the two of us, volodya, you’re working far harder at pushing a narrative than I am. In your narrative, the protagonists-slash-mutual-antagonists are economies — national, regional and local. The tensions are those arising from debt pressures on the one hand, and different economies’ varying success or failure in sustaining economic growth/ resisting outsourcing on the other. The stakes are the well-founded concern that the long-standing link between economic performance and ability to shoulder debt is in the process of breaking. And finally, the anticipated resolution of your narrative could be summed up, in my reading at least, as follows: Woe betide! Ill fares the land! Collapse! Fire! Flames! Fury! We’re all doomed, doomed I tell you! Ah-booga-booga-booga! And from all this, Aesop-like, you draw a moral: Debt is scary. Be afraid.

      What I did was respond to your claim that the province of Ontario’s debt is uniquely bad (you literally described it as ‘explosive’), and point out how certain facts are inconsistent with that characterization. Just that: a selection of facts, sources provided, plus a few critical words. Can you explain to me in your own words how that constitutes a narrative? Does that really justify you putting on a performance of triumphantly pretending to dunk on me, at great and tedious length?

      I for one find you ridiculous. Give me facts, not fear, because facts are the first requirement to address some of these problems constructively. As for your narrative of fear, you’re welcome to it. It’s the last thing we need.

      • JohnAZ November 5, 2019 at 1:12 pm #

        To both of you.

        Debt is only a problem when creditors want their money. Otherwise, it just floats there. Printing money works to increase the debt and pay off this year’s bills.

        Study the needs of the people owning the debt. When they need their capital to live, that is when the fit hits the Shan. Hint: think SocialSecurity and retirement funds.

      • volodya November 5, 2019 at 1:50 pm #

        Finance is the simplest thing, dressed up as something very complicated, which it isn’t. They send people to school for years to get degrees in this subject, for which is paid enormous sums, which makes me laugh because the same financial principles apply to running a lemonade stand as a multi-billion dollar business or a gigantic, sprawling government. 

        The core of it is addition and subtraction and multiplication. That’s all, something a fifth grader can do, or a semi-literate peasant, but a function that baffles the most extravagantly – cough – educated, the Ontario government being a case in point, many American states and cities also, and especially the buffoons running Washington. 

        Common sense is the essential ingredient to managing money, common sense being anathema to today’s university educated clerisy, which want nothing to do with it, such simple mindedness seen as the preserve of bygone days, you know, ma an’ paw, back on the farm.  

        That’s all I’m touting, arithmetic. Smell the coffee or don’t Elrond, it’s entirely up to you. 

        • hmuller November 6, 2019 at 10:27 am #

          In the past few centuries we’ve seen many things that reshuffle the deck of cards called wealth distribution. There are wars, revolutions, depressions, hyper-inflations, bubbles of all kinds, and currencies going to zero value.

          The poor weather this turmoil because they only have their household possessions, no real investments.

          The uber-rich may suffer some, but they often position themselves in tangible assets in time.

          The middle class is left holding the bag; waving the devalued paper instruments which promised them future wealth pay-outs, wondering what went wrong.

          I suspect this is not all blind chance or the work of Adam Smith’s invisible hand job. But then I’m a crazy conspiracy theorist. Saner people know that the rich and powerful never conspire behind closed doors to promote their interests.

          • volodya November 6, 2019 at 11:14 am #

            My own read of it is a mixed picture. The communist revolts in Russia, China, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, really did overturn the existing order, the aristocracies in those places losing their property. I suppose that they could have kept assets squirreled away in other countries. Would have done them no good though if they got killed in the mayhem which is what happened to a fair number of them. In Germany some of the big businesses that existed pre-Nazi era, also existed post-Nazi era.  

            The revolts of the 1980s and 90s, that collapsed communist regimes sure did a reshuffling with connected oligarchs ripping off everything that wasn’t nailed down. That’s the system that exists now. Whether the powers that be in those post-communist places learn from history remains to be seen. Putin did a good job blaming foreigners for domestic economic troubles and then in distracting Russians with foreign adventures. We’ll see how long that trick works because you have to eat, and overseas victories that don’t put food on the table are in the end completely useless to the man in the street.  

            But I think that in general you’re right. Elites in places that bit the dust from hyper-inflations and currency collapses managed to salvage quite a bit from the rubble, maybe from buying US dollars before the SHTF or UK pounds or foreign real estate. You look at that cockroach in Venezuela and his buddies that run the show there. They don’t seem to be suffering. 

            And the rich and powerful never conspire, no way.

    • malthuss November 5, 2019 at 6:13 pm #

      You took the bait as I expected. –classic.

    • PeteAtomic November 5, 2019 at 9:35 pm #

      “By the way, I have zero expectation that Elrond actually read this. I did it for the other commenters, that they might get a bit of enjoyment, and maybe to stimulate some discussion.”

      LOL Volodya, the guy enjoys “winning” in the Charlie Sheen sense of the word. Don’t waste your time.

  47. Luhrenloup November 5, 2019 at 11:37 am #

    A revolutionary cri de coeur was uttered recently by the president with the following 4 words “I want the oil.” the most important words spoken since Jefferson penned the words “We, the People.” Trump’s words are indisputable. It is the reason why the US is in Syria. The US is not that shining city on a hill, the exceptional one. It is brutish and corrupt.
    This summer, on the bus in my new city, Portland Maine, smallish, less than 70,000, heading to the library downtown, I note huge crowds on its main thoroughfare, Congress Street, some with streamers, dressed peculiarly. And then I see rainbow flags — Portland is celebrating Gay Pride. Incongruous! Everybody’s out there from grandmothers to newly weds, high school kids, jocks, silly girls; they’re all cheering the gays.
    A parade is being held to celebrate sex. Yet, truth be told a good many of these people find homosexual sex repulsive. Be it noted that we haven’t had a great gay icon since these parades were started and none of those icons would want any part of the label “gay.” When asked to join a movement for gays, James Baldwin said that it was not a cause, it was merely his sex life.
    We are in the midst of a revolution to reclaim basic values, honesty heading the list. The ruling class has gone too far and is bankrupt. Most of the internet blogs are populated by people trying to figure out what is really happening, seeking to uncover some basic truth about their society, their government because all of it is such bullshit.
    “I want the oil” is a start. Only when we acknowledge the truth of our situation can we take steps to correct it. Trump is not the solution, he’s the symptom. His presidency, from before he even took office to present has brought to light one corrupt situation after another. If he accomplishes nothing else, his presidency has delivered.
    What you hate most about the other, as any psychologist will tell you, is the part of yourself you refuse to acknowledge.

    Trump is exposing America’s id.

    • JohnAZ November 5, 2019 at 12:04 pm #

      My problem with this country is the DeepState separating itself from the people.

      But not really:

      It is the fact that the Deep State is a reflection of the people. The Deep State has morphed into the monster that it is because the people have changed to cause it. The Deep State is just an amplification of the people it represents.

      Where are the problems? Look at the people!

      • SoftStarLight November 5, 2019 at 1:06 pm #

        Absolutely unbelievable! Yes, let’s blame the small people for the upper most, wealthiest people in our society consolidating power through all facets of society, including all of those that no one can vote on. Other than revolting what choice do little people have but to lead their lives the best they can? And if the Deep State is the amplification of the people then look at what it represents..an anti-White, pro-immigration, profits-no-matter what ideology. Sound familiar?

        • JohnAZ November 5, 2019 at 1:42 pm #

          Yup! Your last statement is correct. Your first statement is not. The little people are famous for not voting, the more influential folks really make the decisions. And like you said, most of the Deep State is not electable anyway.

          The Deep State exists for one reason, to preserve their jobs. Term limits would put a stake in the heart of the Deep State. Which is exactly why you will never see it pass muster.

          TJ put the need for revolution in the Declaration when Deep States form! It is our responsibility as citizens to overthrow oppressive government when they form, ie Deep States.

          The problem? Too many little people gimmes.

          • SoftStarLight November 5, 2019 at 2:10 pm #

            I truly hope you realize how cold, calculating, and callous your worldview is. You really should stop posting about the Deep State altogether since you are in total support. After all, the wealthy people who are flush with cash are not gimmes after all right? They just require the treasury be syphoned off to them via corporate welfare, tax loopholes, and all the rest. I would say that you should be ashamed of yourself but you wear this like a badge of honor. I am totally taken aback, my breath has been taken away, and I am astonished. You would condemn a family who is having trouble making ends meet and deny them any sort of support because that would be gimme right? But you are totally fine with corporations getting in on all the welfare action since you clearly are silent on the matter. Oh my god I just can’t take it, really.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 4:10 pm #

            Nice going, Sport. You actually managed to make SSL angry at you. That’s not easy to do. You best change you ways or start packing. She is a Beloved of both God and the Gods after all, the Beloved of the Beloved….

        • Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 1:50 pm #

          Yes, John is very harsh but there is a grain of Truth here: people identify with the Wealthy and want to be one. The old Horatio Alger meme, or rags to riches. It’s like Black boys dreaming of attaining the NBA – one in a million, yet nothing else is left for people and they latch onto it. As Walt said, we simply have no popular ideal of the righteous poor here at all. If you don’t have money, it’s your fault and you’re scum.

          • SoftStarLight November 5, 2019 at 2:14 pm #

            Yes, how ashamed of us our Father is I am sure. After all, is there nothing else in Life to idolize other than money and the generation thereof? What about the Spirit? And what of loving one’s neighbor, you know, that which we are always lectured about?

          • malthuss November 5, 2019 at 6:15 pm #

            Arnold S, from working in a kitchen and being a male prostitute to bling.

          • sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 7:03 pm #

            I use to feel bad about myself for not being successful in a materialistic sense. It took me half a lifetime to get to the point where I am no longer embarrassed about driving an older model car, or living in a small house in an inner ring suburb largely abandoned by the middle-class. I have no debts and a small mortgage. I also have lots of time to invest in the things that really matter to me. I have found quality does not equate with quantity, and the good things in life really are (almost) free.

            RWNJ extraordinaire

          • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 11:21 am #

            “It took me half a lifetime to get to the point where I am no longer embarrassed about driving an older model car,”

            You’re doing really well, sunburst. Give it another 30 years and you’ll be happy to take the bus like me. 🙂

            That might be just long enough for America to organise regular buses from ‘inner ring suburbs’!

            I used to have a 15-year-old Mini Metro that had so much rust I used to stare straight ahead of me when I was stopped at traffic lights because I could see the driver beside me staring at it out of the corner of my eye and I refused to be shamed! Who gives a toss? Buying new cars is daft – they’ve lost a pile of their ‘value’ by the time you’ve driven them home.

          • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 12:20 pm #

            Although I have to say I’m astonished that anyone purporting to be Christian spent any time fretting about what kind of car s/he was driving.

            Sometimes we a-theists are way ahead of you. 🙂

            Half a lifetime? Cripes.

          • Nightowl November 6, 2019 at 6:26 pm #

            Weak stuff, GA.

            Sunburst made an honest admission and described a struggle most people deal with on a regular basis.

            In my experience, reverse snobbery is based in envy and anger over personal failure. A new(ish) car may not interest you, but if we dig deeper, I suspect you have your own version of it.

          • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 6:58 pm #

            BTW, sunburst, the Mini Metro just died one day when I was on the way into the city centre. In fact on the way to drop one daughter at the station to catch a train. It died before we got there, blocking access from a road on my left. I looked around me for help and the heavens answered (don’t go there, SSL, it’s a metaphor) in the form of a charming young policeman in shorts and tee shirt walking to work. He came over and managed to get the thing resurrected but with added sound effects, took my daughter to the station and then took my younger daughter and me to the temporary police station on the Royal Mile (did I mention it was the first day of the Edinburgh International Festival and Festival Fringe and there was about to be a parade? Bad timing…).

            Anyway, he got us some tea, changed into his uniform, and drove us in the clapped-out car to the young guy who used to look after it for me. He told me it would cost £150 to fix the gear box. I told him the car wasn’t worth that much. So the kind policeman drove us to a scrapyard and the chap there promised me £100 if I brought the registration documents back the next day (he also stole the tax disc in the meantime, so that I got less back).

            We thanked the nice young policeman profusely; he set off to walk back to work and we went for a burger and got the bus home.

            “no longer embarrassed about driving an older model car”?

            These things are all relative, sunburst. 🙂

            And this is one reason why I don’t feel the same global disdain towards the police as Kesa does!

          • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 7:09 pm #

            “In my experience, reverse snobbery is based in envy and anger over personal failure. A new(ish) car may not interest you, but if we dig deeper, I suspect you have your own version of it.”

            And you being you, Nightowl, I’m entirely convinced you’ve got some evidence for that.

            It’s nothing to do with reverse snobbery – I can’t imagine ever worrying about what kind of car I was driving, if I chose to drive one. It’s a feckin’ piece of metal designed to get you from A to B. And consider perhaps that I was wiser than my years, being the child of war-generation parents who didn’t give a tinker’s cuss about such things either. But do come and visit, if you think I might have a new-car equivalent somewhere. Any time. What personal failure were you thinking of, BTW?

            I could buy three cars tomorrow, my dear. As a result of not pissing money away on cars, to a large extent. I realise that makes me lucky. But I’m keeping my money to help out my kids if they should need it, given the way things are going.

            You have no clue. But a lot of bitterness, clearly.

          • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 7:16 pm #

            And I’m pretty sure sunburst would be capable of taking it in better humour than you, given it wasn’t exactly serious.

            But you’re quite aspirational, aren’t you? So I can see you would take such things more seriously.

            We Brits are more into self-deprecating humour – not very American I realise.

          • Nightowl November 7, 2019 at 4:30 am #


            I didn’t make a claim. I said I suspect you have your own version of a new car. Arguments 101.

            Your reverse snobbery is laughable. Only three new cars? Aw.

          • GreenAlba November 7, 2019 at 6:12 am #

            I could manage more than three, if truth be told, Nightowl. I didn’t say too much on that subject because I’m totally out of the loop as far as the price of new cars is concerned. And given that they vary mightily there would be little point in precision. But I know you’re kidding anyway.

            My husband doesn’t have a car either and he doesn’t suffer from any of your status anxiety issues (I don’t mean yours personally – I mean the ones we seem to be discussing). He could buy more than I could, but remains unbothered. I daresay if we lived in a different place, he might think about it. It’s not a point of faith, just a pragmatic choice not to be arsed with maintaining an expensive hunk of steel when there’s a bus stop round the corner.

            Some people just don’t give a flying fiddle about cars as a status object. Which is why I was lightly pulling sunburst’s leg, as I totally approve of his view on both that and the wider issue (I was just there earlier, as I said!). I am singularly uninterested in competitive acquisition, for which I take no credit at all as it’s just the personality I both inherited and had nurtured in my early years. The world needs all sorts – we complement one another, in my view, the driven achievers and those who are less interested in the rewards. I’m happy walking in the hills (like yourself, I believe, but not too high for me these days) or reading a book. Neither of these activities requires personal motorised transport, although it certainly does broaden your options (but mostly if you do a circular route!).

            My story about the rusty Mini Metro was from well over 20 years ago. I will admit to taking a certain pride in managing on very little for a fair chunk of my life and coming out unscathed and with children unharmed by the experience (and with a much better idea of the value of money than many of their peers), but it’s neither here not there. Not remotely real poverty in any case, if you can still syphon off mortgage payments before you do anything else. There was always light at the end of the tunnel – children grow up and move on and mortgages get paid off. And I got a little help when I most needed it too, which I’m happy to pay forward.

      • Luhrenloup November 6, 2019 at 5:49 pm #

        I agree, John. After 9/11 when W and his gang on a daily basis, were screaming WAR, a group of religious leaders addressed the situation, what a horror it was, Iraq was not responsible, etc. Then this one Buddhist monk spoke up — If you want peace, he addressed us, it must start within yourself. You must find it within you; you must be at peace with yourself and your life. He was speaking truth and we all knew it.
        America is not ready to act on that message yet. We await the horrific calamity that will set us on the right path again.

    • BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 4:50 pm #


      It’s the American Freak Show, the latest version.

      The side show is now located on Main Street, not off the Midway in some broken down travelling carnival.

      • Luhrenloup November 5, 2019 at 10:29 pm #

        When people start seeing themselves as victims of society, it destroys them. They become a caricature of themselves.

        • sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 11:47 pm #

          Yes, and dependency (letting ourselves become dependent on a ‘caretaker ‘ government) leads to victimization because we have lost the capacity for self-reliance in the good old Emersonian sense of the word…

      • malthuss November 6, 2019 at 12:19 pm #

        Venice Beach or


  48. 100th Avatar November 5, 2019 at 11:49 am #


    Finally, the root problem lays bare

    • BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 1:16 pm #

      There it is, my friend.

      The only logical conclusion of this non stop ‘Climate’ agitation.

      That’s where its headed. The guiding principle — adapted from the Bolsheviks and the Nazis — is if you can only liquidate enough human beings — Climate Utopia is attainable.


      • 100th Avatar November 5, 2019 at 1:27 pm #

        Climate utopia?!

        I’d be content with having less knuckleheads, and y’know a planet with those other living things we’re supposed to be sharing it with.

        • BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 2:53 pm #

          Getting back to Mormon settlements in Mexico

          Beginning in the 1870s the govt of Mexico welcomed Mormon migration, reason being many of them were professionally trained as MDs, engineers, agronomists and architects.

      • Epicur November 5, 2019 at 1:36 pm #

        I asked my Magic 8-Ball if the human population is going to be reduced.

        It said, “You may rely on it.”

        But I wouldn’t worry about it being done by some powerful organized cabal. Nature bats last.

        • JohnAZ November 5, 2019 at 1:52 pm #

          Just read the latest BBC report on 11000 scientists about the emergent nature of Climate Change.

          It was right on the mark, describing the various factors causing the warming, their effects, ya-ya-ya. But like all such reports, lots of suggested solutions, none of which are feasible.

          An example:

          Obama enters the WH. Manufacturing accelerates its movement from the US to Mexico and mostly Asia. The Rust Belt grows in intensity to the point the next President wins as a GOPer in Union country. So the jobs end up in Asia. Asia has limited oil and natural gas, but lots of coal. So industry was developed on coal. Have you seen the pictures of China and especially India recently. India, I think it was Mumbai, closed its airports due to smog. Health warnings everywhere.

          Just an example of where problems are not only just moved, but increased. The US might be cleaner but the world is worse.

          • BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 2:55 pm #

            Did they say how we would make steel with windmills and solar panels? Or will there be no more use for steel because we will be returning to the stone age.?


          • sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 6:30 pm #

            ‘Have you seen the pictures of China and especially India recently. India, I think it was Mumbai, closed its airports due to smog. Health warnings everywhere.’ –John AZ


            It’s called Asian brown cloud…

            Asian brown cloud, a large atmospheric brown cloud that occurs annually from about November through May over eastern China and southern Asia. The Asian brown cloud is caused by large amounts of aerosols (such as soot and dust) produced in the combustion of fossil fuels and biomass across the region. It has been linked to decreases in summer monsoon rainfall in India since 1930, the southward shift of the summer monsoon in eastern China, declines in agricultural production, and increases in respiratory and cardiovascular problems in the people inhabiting the region.

          • Nightowl November 8, 2019 at 4:38 am #

            And remember, China is allowed to pollute with reckless abandon through 2030, and potential regulations after 2030 are unknown.

            The plan in industry is to develop the third world, which will create record new amounts of pollution, and ultimately extend lives and further increase populations in those parts of the world.

            That this is the exact opposite of what the modern climate alarmist crowd should theoretically support, but seems not to be a point of contention.

            Cognitive dissonance is fascinating.

        • elysianfield November 5, 2019 at 5:15 pm #

          “I asked my Magic 8-Ball ”

          I , too, would like to forecast the future, but I do not have the balls for it….

          • Epicur November 5, 2019 at 6:09 pm #

            Those who deal with thermodynamics and physical chemistry have a reliable guide – Le Chatelier’s Principle: A system under stress will react in a direction to relieve the stress.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 1:54 pm #

        Yes, Greta is Royalty and she will institute the Cult of Human Sacrifice. It may be voluntary at first, but then punitive as well. AOC and millions of other nodded their horsey heads when the woman talked about eating babies. Green Alba perhaps as well? Or maybe she didn’t know whether to nod or shake so she just bobbled like Nancy Pelosi.

        Greta to her credit, has not talked about this. She wants us to start with bugs and work our way up. Or down – depending on how you see it.

        • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 11:29 am #

          Maybe when you’ve got a moment, bufonid, you could collate all my comments about Greta OR the Cortez person and put them out there?

          Other than that, you need to get treatment for that bizarre need you have to bring my name into things that are nothing to do with me and on which I have either expressed no opinion at all or one at odds with your imaginings.

          • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 11:30 am #

            It’s almost as if you get withdrawal symptoms if I ignore your comments for, y’know, months.

      • Epicur November 5, 2019 at 2:34 pm #

        I’ve read the article. There is nothing like liquidation of human beings in its content. It only speaks of lowering the birth rate without even mentioning the regions or people who are reproducing at rates over the replacement level. Any reduction, which it does mention, would be by births being below replacement level.

        “…the world population must be stabilized—and, ideally, gradually reduced—within a framework that ensures social integrity. ”

        Lots of PeeCee, Kumbaya claptrap.

        The article is written from a left-wing, “socially conscious” perspective.


        There is quite literally nothing to see here.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 3:35 pm #

          So as long as a genocide is gentle, it’s not genocide? That was the position of Tom Hayden. He expressed his satisfaction at the marriage of his son to a Black woman, saying he’d like to see entire White race gradually bred out of existence in the same way. I mean that’s what you do to cancer, right? Get rid of it?

          • BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 4:43 pm #

            Tom Hayden is extinct. Unfortunately, his ex wife, Jane Fonda, Hanou Jane, is still around and kicking. She was arrested for the 4th straight week friday, in DC, part of her crusade against ‘Climate Extinction’. Apparently she has been warned if she keeps it up the judge might decide to jail her for a determined amount of time just for being a pain in the ass. She’s 82. This old krone should have been locked up 50 years ago for treason. I wonder if there’s a hint of mental illness here, and perhaps that’s been the case all along.


          • Epicur November 5, 2019 at 6:34 pm #

            I will agree that “nothing to see here” is overstated. I have tried to explain to younger people, as long ago as the ’70s that “overpopulation” is not a moral issue, but a survival issue.

            I will disagree with you, I think, that racial purity is a strict goal that should be enforced. Even as much as social solidarity is a strong survival value, and we humans are mentally equipped to bind to “our own kind”, nevertheless, we have always had some mixing and population genetics teaches that some mixing has benefits. I do agree that the current level of “diversity” is not a strength, rather it is too much too fast, and, like rapidly pouring a strong base into a strong acid, has had and will have explosive effects to the detriment of our society (that does not mean we whites will go extinct).

          • Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 8:52 pm #

            It depends what kind of racial mixing. The Confucian Scholar, Lin Yutang, felt that China had benefited from period racial incursion by Northern Barbarians like the Mongols and Manchus. But note: These people were quite similar to the Han Chinese thus it was a strengthening and not a radical change in another direction. Adding Blacks to China won’t help them anymore than it has helped White America. Too primitive. Adding Chinese to a White Nation? Too alien. And vice versa of course.

          • hmuller November 7, 2019 at 10:46 am #

            As more Chinese business enterprises move into Africa (protected by Chinese soldiers) we may see some babies born with African mothers and Chinese fathers. Will such children have a future in China? Somehow, I doubt it. But they may form a new uber-class in Africa.

  49. TPTB-USA November 5, 2019 at 12:58 pm #

    Hi Jim,

    Your posts on various current events are very much appreciated.

    I post the following out of frustration, and in the hope that it might elicit some viable proposals for how to deal with the various issues.

    Individuals, that are supposed to represent us, stand on the constitution and make proclamations and pass decrees, apparently with nary an inkling that without a moral population, that agrees to treat one another with dignity and respect, that the constitution amounts to no more than a pile of …. letters. In other words, they are destroying the very foundation that substantiates their existence.

    I am of the opinion that the various world wide protests are the result of people coming to the realization that the “game” is no longer equitable. I would venture a guess that the majority are just swept-up in the movement, without any understanding of their plight, or having given any consideration about the world that the consequences of their actions will lead them. Their initial step is to look to government for a solution, and when they realize that the government doesn’t have the solution, their focus turns on the corruption perpetrated by government officials.

    If this republic is to survive, I would suggest that the focus should be on restoring unity. John Kasich impresses me as being a well-founded politician, a person who has focused on his job, and served the people who elected him. Judy Woodruff interviewed him on the PBS Newshour Friday before last, and he has come around to the opinion that President Trump should be impeached.

    While his reasoning is sound, I humbly suggest, that like the Muller investigation, Kasich is viewing a narrow segment of the situation to formulate and substantiate his position.

    If the Mueller investigation accomplished nothing else, it has made it blatantly obvious that laws exist, where, given enough scrutiny, that anyone can be found guilty of something. So, the process has been bastardized, where a group of people determined that they wanted Trump impeached, and they went in search of the violation to accomplish their objective.

    The combinations and permutations of the legal system have evolved to the point where it has become a relic of history. How does one equate having to serve 30 days in the slammer for “sleeping-in” and missing jury duty, with serving 15 days in a country club prison for buying a place at the front of the line for USC admission for your offspring/s, with a Smoullette character
    pulling a prank and serving no time, HRC being scrubbed clean along with her server, with Nancy and her husband, just like the Bidens, taking advantage of their privilege, but half the crowd in DC
    is on a mission to unearth something, anything, that they can use to extract Trump from office. It just gets a little sticky when some (most) of them have done similar.

    That which the young protestors should give consideration and be concerned about is China. The sleeping giant has awoken and is patiently enacting its plan. There is already a format for how to deal with dissidents: a free bus ticket to a Western “re-education camp”. Xi has a vision of China being the center of the world in his lifetime. He has structured government and society in such a manner, and positioned himself at the top. It is just a matter of a few more years for China to be in bloom, a time when they will not hesitate to deal with situations like Hong Kong without requesting anyone’s approval.

    I don’t see change taking place voluntarily, so from a personal perspective, “Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead”.

  50. Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 3:31 pm #


    Deutsch Welle says. German Douche Bags celebrating the growth the Economy at the expense of the real Germany and German People. I imagine Green Alba denying this is happening, but secretly happy that it is, in Germany and in the rest of Europe as well.

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    • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 11:43 am #

      Your desperate imaginings do not concern me, bufonid, so my advice would be to save your toady breath. That’s twice today you’ve shown your petulance that I rarely bother with your comments. I’m sorry you’re feeling neglected but there we are.

      • hmuller November 7, 2019 at 10:50 am #

        You’re not neglecting Janos if you keep responding to him. LOL

        • GreenAlba November 7, 2019 at 11:52 am #

          I didn’t engage with his made-up nonsense, which is the main thing. Some things should be treated with the contempt they deserve. But thanks for the LOLZ.

    • Nightowl November 7, 2019 at 5:03 am #

      The reality is that there is very little work here for low-skill migrants (which globalist mouthpiece DW also had to admit in a roundabout way), which is why so many who come here from more advanced Western economies like Poland end up going back home.

      The good news is, neoliberalism will fail.

      • GreenAlba November 7, 2019 at 11:56 am #

        Poles have stopped coming to the UK in any great numbers too, principally because the pound tanking after the Brexit vote makes it not worth their while any more. They used to save money to take home, now they’re as well staying there. Same, unfortunately, with the doctors and nurses from the rest of the EU who were very much needed. Still lots of Irish here, though. 🙂

  51. BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 4:28 pm #

    Another shootout last night in New Haven, not far from Yale. You know, New Haven is not a big city, with just over 100,000 people. You’d think, at some point, anyone who could be shot, has been shot. But that doesn’t seem to be the case, every week new candidates rise to the fore.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 5:43 pm #

      Someone should do a sequel to Buckley’s “God and Man at Yale” – perhaps “Man, Money, and Monkey in New Haven”.

      Are there any love stories about lovers living on opposite sides of the Long Island Sound, communicating by Light House flashes and visiting by Yachts? Or is the distance too great – even up at demon haunted Montauk?

      • BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 6:46 pm #

        It must have been paradise there at one time, before sliced up by limited access highways and single track housing projects.

        Gatsby in East Egg, Daisy in Westport, communicating messages of love and longing by semaphore across the salty marshes and open water of Long Island Sound.


    • malthuss November 5, 2019 at 6:16 pm #

      Tom Hayden is extinct. –I saw him driving illegally, once.

      • elysianfield November 6, 2019 at 5:36 pm #

        “Tom Hayden is extinct. –I saw him driving illegally, once.”

        That is EXACTLY why I learned to drive with my knees…so that I could flip him or others like him, off with both hands.

  52. Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 4:38 pm #

    Anchor Amy Robach said that ABC killed her in depth story on Epstein because of intense pressure from the Buckingham Palace.


    As the interviewed victim (or was it Amy?) said, He spent his life blackmailing powerful men. Maybe some of them didn’t like it – being filmed and having that sword hanging over their heads. And they sure didn’t like it when he was indiscrete enough to keep getting in trouble. The Sword suddenly seem a lot lower. Any number of them could have put out a contract on him – with the silent approval of many, many more. At this level, failure is the big No No, perhaps the only real sin. His Zionist and/or Satanic Allies couldn’t help him in this even if they wanted to.

    • BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 5:36 pm #

      Hey Janos

      Somebody upstream used the handle ‘Vlad the Impaler’. Wasn’t that you a long time ago?

      • Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 5:38 pm #

        I was Vlad, but not the Impaler.

        • capt spaulding November 5, 2019 at 8:30 pm #

          I’m pretty sure that was Epstein.

        • elysianfield November 6, 2019 at 5:38 pm #

          “I was Vlad, but not the Impaler.”

          But considering your advise to embrace the demon weed, I would expect you to be Vlad the inhaler….

    • PeteAtomic November 5, 2019 at 6:00 pm #

      Another enormous story which displays deep corruption at the highest levels of politics and government — and is largely ignored by the MSM

    • malthuss November 5, 2019 at 6:18 pm #

      I spoke to someone w supposed inside info to Debbie W S office.
      They are all compromised.
      the parties are orgies.
      the pols are filmed.

      In DC, not just on L S James.

  53. Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 5:37 pm #


    This is what an NPC looks like. No reality at all. Just canned reactions which he takes to be his or her self – because they have no real ones.

    • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 2:16 am #

      No analytical skills or other signs of brainwaves either sir! They’ve all become droids. He is so NPC that he doesn’t get the irony of the fact that he says he wants everyone feeling safe on campus, while at the same time implicating that saying its simply ok to be White is like terrorism (Presumably because being White is not ok).

  54. Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 5:57 pm #

    Have you watched the movie “Zulu”? The Zulus chant Zooo-Looo before they attack. I hope you choose this over midget porn…..

    • BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 6:50 pm #

      That’s a great film, Zulu …

      Back when whitey still had balls, and honor …

    • capt spaulding November 5, 2019 at 8:33 pm #

      Hey, don’t knock midget porn. It’s great fun watching little females go “up” on guys.

      • Majella November 6, 2019 at 4:10 am #

        (Puke, but) ‘lol’

  55. JohnAZ November 5, 2019 at 5:59 pm #

    SSL, Janos

    Seeing as you both are twins, I will address you both.

    I am surprised at both of your responses. My comments were right on. The changes in the populace, the little guys, is what has allowed the Deep State to manipulate this country to what it is. The Deep State which includes your corporate structure you do not seem to like, is what is creating the separation from the haves and have nots. The populace today is very different than it was even thirty years ago, most of it orchestrated by the Deep State. You do not like the word “gimme”, there are lots of them out there. Hard working folks making a go of it are not “gimmes”. Make out of it what you will.

    It has taken me 71 years, through a lot of thick and thin to develop my cynical point of view about our government the way it is today. You do not like it, too bad.

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    • JohnAZ November 5, 2019 at 6:32 pm #


      • capt spaulding November 6, 2019 at 7:28 pm #

        I support you in your cynicism, JAZ, based on my own experience, I define a cynic as a disappointed idealist who has learned the painful truth.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 7:54 pm #

      You are an apologist and an enabler for the Plutocrats – like all of your heroes: Jack Kemp, Paul Ryan, Bitch McConnell, George Will, Glenn Beck, Mitt Romney and all Mormons in fact. etc.

      Better get your affairs in order. The Goddess will hear the cries of her Devotee and will enter into her in order to punish malfactors such as yourself.

      • JohnAZ November 5, 2019 at 8:11 pm #

        You’ve lost it. Your bigotry is slanting this entire blog. Bye!

        • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 12:15 am #

          Oh come on John. Quit being so dramatic. You’ve left before and came back so I expect you’ll be back again perhaps. If you feel justified and righteous in your beliefs well I imagine you wouldn’t leave in such a huff in the first place. Look, you clearly have a heart. I don’t really believe you would deny someone who needs help. My point is that the little people should not be held accountable for the Deep State. The Deep State must be accountable for the actions of the Deep State. Why should you be judged for the sins of another person whom you don’t know? You were being hard headed and stubborn about the whole gimme thing. There are many people who legitimately need some help and then you do have “cheats” and “gimmes”. Human nature has always been this way. Its nothing new to this generation. You realize this I know. As Janos mentioned before, the Sabbath is made for Man, not Man for the Sabbath. And so it is with Money and the Economy. You know its true.

          • capt spaulding November 6, 2019 at 7:47 pm #

            The old saying SSL, is “In a Democracy, you get the government you deserve”. Whether we like it or not, the responsibility for keeping an eye on the politicians and their friends, the wealthy, falls to us. The corruption we witness now, is here because we have become too lazy and didn’t want to be bothered with what happened in DC, We just wanted to go about our own lives. Also, the responsibility to educate yourself doesn’t end at the schoolhouse door, it’s a lifelong responsibility which a great many people ignore at their own peril. It has helped the world become what it is, an overpopulated, overheated planet already on it’s way to being ruled by the 1%, who have never faltered in their efforts to acquire all the wealth and power for themselves. They are doing quite well at it too.

            Any citizen out there who thinks that ANYBODY who has a billion dollars and shits on a gold plated toilet has their best interests at heart, is a fool, and will pay the price for their folly, just like the Germans did.

  56. Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 6:05 pm #

    Grandfather, Great Spirit, once more behold me on earth and lean to hear my feeble voice. You lived first, and you are older than all need, older than all prayer.

    All things belong to you — the two-legged, the four-legged, the wings of the air, and all green things that live.

    You have set the powers of the four quarters of the earth to cross each other. You have made me cross the good road and road of difficulties, and where they cross, the place is holy. Day in, day out, forevermore, you are the life of things.

    Hey! Lean to hear my feeble voice. At the center of the sacred hoop You have said that I should make the tree to bloom. With tears running, O Great Spirit, my Grandfather, With running eyes I must say The tree has never bloomed.

    Here I stand, and the tree is withered. Again, I recall the great vision you gave me.

    It may be that some little root of the sacred tree still lives. Nourish it then That it may leaf And bloom And fill with singing birds!

    Hear me, that the people may once again Find the good road And the shielding tree.

    JS: Black Elk’s prayer. He prayed it for the Sioux. I pray it for the lost White Race. The place where the Good Road and the Road of Diffculties cross is Holy. Good and Lucky people must know pain. And the Unlucky must have pleasure and good times. If not, there will be pain for even more. For those that prevent that Balance are Evil.

    • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 12:47 am #

      What a beautiful prayer and a lofty and important goal. One that will be difficult to realize in a world of increasing and truly enormous disparities in income and well being. That sort of disparity only increases distrust and hinders cooperation and even the desire to cooperate.

  57. Pucker November 5, 2019 at 6:41 pm #

    Do you remember that 1970’s TV show sitcom about misunderstood, hard working, good-natured poor black people living in the violent, drug-ridden Chicago housing project slum called “Good Times”?

    We should have a new TV show called “End Times”.

  58. Pucker November 5, 2019 at 7:01 pm #

    Apparently, Martin Luther had a sense of humor, which I find encouraging since the unwritten rule of History is that Comedians are relegated generally to the Trash Heap of History. Martin Luther probably told jokes about the Pope and the orthodox Catholic clergy? That is, he probably told jokes when he wasn’t burning Catholic canons, decrees, and other Catholic books….

  59. sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 7:53 pm #

    ‘Knock off the fuzzy crap and get real.’ – Janos

    Things always start out ‘fuzzy’ Janos. We first visualize an Ideal and then we implement a means to achieve it.

    For World Peace to prevail in a world made up of thousands of Independent Regions, these regions would need to share a sense of commonality and brotherhood despite their uniqueness and diversity.

    What would be a realistic basis for such commonality and brotherhood?

    First and foremost a shared belief and conviction in a Universal Creator who is related to humanity as loving Parents would be related to their cherished progeny.

    Second, a Universal Language to supplement the varied idoms and dialects that would naturally arise in each region. Distrust naturally arises when people lose the ability to communicate with one another.

    Third, some form of economic system that would have built-in restraints against monopolistic practices. Doing away with an abstract monetary system might work, where people trade or barter goods and services directly.

    • Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 8:46 pm #

      In other words, you imply by your silence that Whites don’t have the right to be free from the presence of Blacks. Let Whites who so desire seek them out – and then be shunned by other Whites.

      • sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 10:45 pm #


        Race is a non-issue for me, so I am not implying anything. At the same time I don’t believe in shoving ‘diversity’ down anyone’s throat. As I’ve said, I live on the border of Detroit which is over 90% Black, and I see everyday the hypocrisy of White Liberals and Progressives who preach diversity and don’t practice it.

        If Whites and Blacks and Reds and Yellows want their own spaces that’s fine with me. I would hope however, in the interest of World Peace, they could still share a sense of commonality as children of the same Universal Creator.

        • malthuss November 5, 2019 at 11:06 pm #

          Do you see the crime in Detroit or only the silly Yts [whiteys]?

          • sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 11:24 pm #

            Crime is rampant in certain areas of Detroit, but there are areas which are pretty safe.

            By hypocrisy I mean all the White Liberals who commute to the inner city for work and then go back to their all-white enclaves after work. Why is Detroit 90% Black? Because the same White Liberals don’t want to live with Blacks even though they are always talking about diversity. It’s ok to live in an all-white enclave, just don’t be hypocritical about it.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 5, 2019 at 11:54 pm #

            He follows the Urantia Book which is huge on Race. Yet here he is pretending that the White parts of Detroit aren’t the safe parts. Lord, give me strength.

        • cbeard November 7, 2019 at 10:28 pm #

          What tribal connection have you?

    • Epicur November 5, 2019 at 9:22 pm #

      Monty Python has already been there.


      • sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 11:03 pm #

        Have you ever watched Tim Conway’s Elephant Story on YouTube?
        He was a regular on the Carol Burnett show which was taped in front of a live audience. He went off skit one time with a couple of weird stories about elephants that had everyone in stitches…

    • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 2:07 am #

      Your first principle should be the end all be all. God is the Great Equalizer for all mortals. So He is the Lord of All, the Lord of the Worlds. But your second and third assertions are directly from the Pit….

      God rejected a universal language. Again dear brother, the lesson of Babel answers that question. And a world economic system? Such is the stuff of prophecy and we know that Babylon, the World City, the World’s Marketplace will be destroyed once and for all. The Lord probably wanted us to remain local. Regional at best. My take at least.

      • sunburstsoldier November 6, 2019 at 9:23 am #

        “But your second and third assertions are directly from the Pit…”


        Let’s briefly consider these assertions you disagree with in more detail:


        If you imagine a world consisting of ‘thousands of Independent Regions, each self-governed and developing over time it’s own unique culture and ways of life’ do you see each region having its own language? If so how will these regions communicate with each other, especially neighboring regions that share common borders? If these Regions cannot communicate with each other would this not tend to give rise to suspicion and distrust and possibly even open hostility and warfare?

        Even if separate languages do not lead to distrust and warfare between Regions, would not a shared mode of communication be necessary for trading purposes? Or do you imagine these Regions would not engage in trade? This would be highly unlikely and unrealistic assumption.

        Therefore I argue, in the interest of World Peace, SUPPLEMENTARY to their own regional dialect, idiom, or language, these regions hold a common language as well, used primarily for inter-regional communication.


        If we do away with an abstract monetary system (coins, bills) this would effectively prevent the rise of a world-wide economic system that could have monopolistic tendencies wherein one or more regions could exert undue influence over others. If trade between regions solely involves the exchange of goods and services (for such trade WILL arise naturally), then the potential for economic domination would be greatly curtailed, if not rendered impossible.

        • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 11:27 am #

          I think people have naturally adopted standard languages for trade and doing business internationally. It was once Greek then Latin then Arabic then English and probably Chinese in the future but so on and so forth. But to the extent that standardization can be avoided then the chances of the extinction of certain cultures and languages are reduced. I am not railing against language being used to communicate across cultures. I am just against the destruction of languages and cultures due to cultural and linguistic standardization and genericization. Those processes are mostly tied to the building of empires which means the building of profits. Again, much in life is lost just because people are trying to make money and get rich. I agree with you when it comes to trade. Local and regional trade of actual goods and services rather than currencies. World wide trade will stop as soon as there are no energy resources for such adventures.

  60. Pucker November 5, 2019 at 8:05 pm #

    Did someone just say something about “Midget Porn”?

    I wonder if a midget gets horny watching other midgets do it on film? I don’t think that that imagine would get me excited….

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  61. sunburstsoldier November 5, 2019 at 8:10 pm #

    Here is some interesting thoughts on the importance of intuition from the book ‘The Genius Famine’…

    “…intuition is the mode of thought of the private soul/ the real self/ inner consciousness – that is to say the most profound, the most secret, fundamental mode of thought. Intuition can be contrasted with two (lower, subordinated) modes of thinking: passions versus reason; the body v the brain; gut-feelings v head-knowledge; instinct v logic. These two modes are not absolutely distinct, but we think they can usefully be distinguished. So, what is the thought mode of intuition? It is not by instinct nor by logic – but by something of both, and more. Therefore, intuition is a mode of thinking which simultaneously uses emotion and logic but operating in a context of (for example) motivation, purpose, meaning and relationships. In a nutshell, intuition uses all possible modes of thinking; and this is why intuition leads to a greater feeling of sureness, of certainty, than do other, more partial forms of thought. The result of intuition is therefore an evaluation which is uniquely convincing because it is validated by the full range of positive responses. It is an insight that satisfies both logic and reason, and also ‘feels’ right. By contrast, if we use only (for example) logic, or only emotions, to evaluate something; then the evaluation will be incomplete, and evaluation in one sub-mode may be contradicted by evaluation in another sub-mode – as when logic and emotions reach different conclusions, point in different directions, contradict one-another – and we feel confused or torn because our head and our heart are in conflict. “

  62. Pucker November 5, 2019 at 9:10 pm #

    Was there ever a James Bond movie in which 007 wore a rubber? That’s so irresponsible! I think that in Britain a “rubber” is an “eraser”? I don’t think that the British have a word for a “rubber”? If you go into a pharmacy in London and ask Mary Poppins where they sell the “rubbers”, she’ll probably direct you to where they sell the stationary? I was once walking down a street at night near Paddington Station many years ago one Summer in London and this hooker wearing a black curly wig, bright red lipstick, high-heeled shoes, and shiny, bright blue, skin tight spandex pants asked me if I “want to do some business.” She looked just like Mary Poppins.

    • Pucker November 5, 2019 at 9:46 pm #

      Wasn’t Prince Andrew a frequent “guest” at Jeffrey Epstein’s “Little St. James” Island?

      • benr November 6, 2019 at 3:10 pm #

        Yes and someone from ABC had that scoop years ago and was told to not run it!

        The only one that talked about all of that at the time was the maligned Alex Jones and again he has turned out to be correct.


        For those of you to squeamish to read the truth for once….


        • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 5:32 pm #

          We had an entire Panorama or Dispatches programme on the Epstein-Andrew connection here a couple of weeks back.

          My husband is rather hoping it might make the monarchy implode, but I think that’s wishful thinking.

        • Majella November 7, 2019 at 3:19 am #

          Benr – did you actually READ that story? I guess journalistic integrity (you know, like having corroboration before publishing) simply doesn’t matter to you.

          This is not a defense of Epstein, but is a defense of journalistic standards.But any view that contradicts your cultist narrative is just ‘fake’, just as anyone who speaks against Trump & you RWNHs is just a liar.

          So shallow. So predictable. So sad. So unpunctuated!

          • Nightowl November 7, 2019 at 5:52 am #

            “A source familiar with Majella’s thinking has disclosed to MSNBC that she is close to institutionalization.”


    • Tate November 6, 2019 at 1:35 am #

      Are you sure ‘she’ wasn’t a ‘zhe?’

    • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 12:04 pm #

      “I don’t think that the British have a word for a “rubber””

      It’s called a condom, like it is everywhere else. Or a rubber (second, not first meaning); or a johnny; or a rubber johnny. My favourite name for it came from a teaching colleague who called it a ‘willy wellie’, possibly from the ancient simile suggesting that using one was like having a bath with your wellies on.

      I’m assuming I don’t have to explain wellies.


  63. Pucker November 5, 2019 at 9:57 pm #

    Many of these Dooms Day bloggers exhort their readers to build up their “Social Capital” and to develop amiable, cooperative relationships with their neighbors so that there is some trust which will be useful in a Collapse scenario. But what if one’s “neighbors” are not the solution, but they are rather a big problem? How does one then clean out the neighbors?

    It’d probably be rather easier to torch a redneck family living on a trailer? Just throw a Molotov cocktail at the trailer, or at the large propane tank next to the trailer while the drunk redneck bloke is screwing his fat wife on the water bed with the TV on….

    • BackRowHeckler November 5, 2019 at 10:50 pm #

      Watch the program ‘Fear thy Neighbor’.

      Molotov cocktails tossed at the neighbors double wide … its been done.

      And when the inhabitants stream out to escape the heat, smoke and flames at 3:00 am, that’s when the gunfire begins.

      There’s your “Social Capital” in a collapse scenario.


      • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 1:54 am #

        i.e. run for dem thar hills!!!!!

  64. Pucker November 5, 2019 at 10:06 pm #

    You could give your money to Joe Biden? Or, you could give your money to Hunter Biden or to Beto…. Give your meager earnings to a billionaire, like Michael Bloomberg, or to Trump….

    • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 1:51 am #

      Six in one hand and half a dozen in the other?

  65. Pucker November 5, 2019 at 10:22 pm #

    Deep State

    How do you prevent a minimum wage disgruntled food service worker from wiping his butt just before handling your food?

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    • Pucker November 6, 2019 at 1:27 am #

      In California, they have bilingual Spanish and English signs everywhere exhorting people to wash their hands before making tacos and burritos. I don’t think that those roadside Mexican food “Roach Coaches” have toilets inside….

      • elysianfield November 6, 2019 at 5:52 pm #

        In another life, I owned a “roach coach”. All the coaches are required to have a three-partition sink…what do you think the 3rd partition is for?

  66. Q. Shtik November 5, 2019 at 11:24 pm #

    I heard the Oklahoma Governor mention that one of the released female prisoners was serving a 15 year sinince.

    I cringed and hair stood up on the back of my neck.

    • volodya November 6, 2019 at 10:11 am #

      Also, biness, nuculer.

      You would have heard this, some folk from the deep south I know in their more ebullient moments manage to stretch “yes” into something like “yay-us”. Don’t know why but seems it’s just the chicks that say it, not the guys.

      I’ve got relatives living in a small town not far from Greenville S.C. They have a bit of a drawl but it seems that the passage of time trimmed off the more exuberant flourishes.

      I think it’s because in their working years in the corporate world southern accents didn’t go down too big. You could be incisive and insightful but nobody wanted Jed Clampett in a meeting room.

      Soft Star Light, maybe you want to weigh in on this being a good ole southern gal.

    • cbeard November 7, 2019 at 10:54 pm #

      What is the problem? I guess you don’t understand regional dialect. I just cringed and hair stood up on the back of my neck also. I tire of ignorant, uppity, condescending comments very easily.

  67. Pucker November 6, 2019 at 12:17 am #

    This bloke, Peter Zeihan, has an interesting presentation worth watching. He used to work for Stratford. He says that technological breakthroughs in shale oil will change the current equation in which shale oil production is not economical. He seems to suggest that Trump may be an Evil Forrest Gump: Trump will be successful not because he’s particularly clever, but because he’s disruptive.


    • Epicur November 6, 2019 at 7:15 am #

      I think that even with the improvements in shale oil, the industry needs a higher price, which will take a bit of stimulus out of the economy. I.e. either a larger share of real spending will go to oil, or we will use proportionally less (more likely).

      The really big thing about shale from Zeihan’s perspective is that our supply chain will be secure, which allows us geostrategic freedom of action. We can manipulate smaller actors without having to get involved in a major land war (IF we have the good sense to stay out).

      Zeihan and George Friedman (Stratfor) both see resource driven conflict in Eastern Europe and Asia although I think Zeihan expects more open conflict with smaller players while I think Friedman fears our being drawn into active participation.

      • Epicur November 6, 2019 at 8:26 am #

        George Friedman: Is a global war coming.

        Friedman does not back his reasoning with economic/resource logic to the extent Zeihan does. He more or less just accepts (or asserts) that men fight wars.


  68. Pucker November 6, 2019 at 1:00 am #

    I think that the Greeks and Christianity defined “Freedom” to mean “Reason” (Logos) in Command. Reason was a gift of God to man. Man is only “Free” when he rises above the animal which is a slave to its lusts and emotions. Only by having moral self-control can a man be Free to exercise his free will and to act autonomously. So a powerful person, like a Chairman Mao, who is capricious and who acts on whim is not Free. Today, they’ve redefined “Freedom” to mean “Hedonism”, which is corruption and slavery.

    • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 1:45 am #

      But surely you are not equating hedonism to whim or capriciousness? Obviously stability and dependability are very important and very much needed. But whim, if guided by the right instincts, can lead to good calls too sometimes. But I wouldn’t argue with your statement as a general rule of thumb.

      • Pucker November 6, 2019 at 2:35 am #

        Chairman Lin used to describe himself as a “tiger” to his personal physician, Li Zhisui. Li Zhisui was always trying to convince Chairman Mao to brush his teeth because Chairman Mao had bad oral health problems like Mr. Spock, but Chairman Mao demurred arguing that “a tiger doesn’t brush its teeth.” Chairman Mao would hold dancing parties at the Zhong Nanhai Party compound in which it was arranged for Chairman Mao to hook up with 15 year old virgin girls. Chairman Mao believed that copulating with young virgins promoted longevity. Anyway, Chairman Mao seemed rather out-of-control towards the end of his life. And so it goes…. “Freedom” is not the same as unchecked Power.

        • Pucker November 6, 2019 at 3:30 am #

          Chairman Mao had terrible gingivitis and bad breath when he danced with the 15 year old peasant girls. Chairman Mao was a “Rich Peasant” from Hunan Province. Chairman Mao’s favorite food was oatmeal porridge with an egg. When I visited Chairman Mao’s birthplace, Shaoshan, Hunan Province, which is a big Communist shrine, there were some Chinese bumpkins who couldn’t resist mocking the foreigner, which was very annoying and belittling. I got even though when I visited Zhou Enlai’s birthplace and museum in Huai An, Jiangsu Province, when I pointed out to the crowd in the museum that Premier Zhou’s brothers and sisters don’t look anything like him, and I asked the tour guide in Chinese if they had the same father? That caused a big problem….

          • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 11:32 am #

            Ewwww! Yes tigers need to brush their teeth (and floss) too!!!! LOL it doesn’t surprise me you would push the envelope in that situation. But with the Chinese? You could have been risking it big time! That was a bold move.

  69. Pucker November 6, 2019 at 1:41 am #

    Would you behead people if it was a good job with paid holiday and benefits?

    • lateStarter November 6, 2019 at 1:50 pm #

      It depends on who the first couple of clients were. I can easily think of a few dozen that

      • lateStarter November 6, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

        It depends on who the first couple of clients were. I can easily think of a few dozen that I woould do for free.

  70. Majella November 6, 2019 at 4:08 am #


    EU Ambassador Sondland figures that gaol is NOT a good option (at least not this twit) and amends his testimony with a few ‘Oh! Now I remember….’ which blow the WH’s denial/talking points right out of the water. Delicious.

    (No doubt, I’m now about to hear all about how unreliable this Trump-booster, ambassadorship purchaser is, and how he’s the scum of the Earth and a RINO. Ha!)

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  71. Majella November 6, 2019 at 4:22 am #

    I just watched (as much as I could stomach) of President FFvCS’s Kentucky Hillbilly Nuremberg Rally.

    Talk about dog-whistles! Truly superlative crap lies being doled outline fentanyl to his loyal base. Most were wearing tee-shirts with ‘Read the transcript!’ emblazoned across their fronts.

    I have. He’s guilty, even without all the testimony being released today.

    Also, an observation:the camera crowd behind Donny Tiny Hands (always a set-up) looked particularly young and thin this time… Makes a change!

    • sunburstsoldier November 6, 2019 at 9:55 am #

      Why do you hate Trump so much?

      • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 11:32 am #

        Because she loves him.

        • Janos Skorenzy November 6, 2019 at 1:51 pm #

          She dreams of those hairy orange hands all over her body.

          There’s a video of a Hollywood Star who went to an Orangutan Sanctuary and started bothering a Bull Male when he was eating. He figured out what she wanted and started coming onto her. The handlers managed to get her away before he got too excited. I have to say she looked flushed and excited….

          • Majella November 6, 2019 at 3:25 pm #

            Oh, yes, Janos, sure…but it seems to me that it’s YOU who has these excitable responses to a buffoon-orangutan you consider to be an ‘Alpha Male’. But he’s no such thing. See above.

        • Majella November 6, 2019 at 3:23 pm #

          Janos’s echo. Do you ever have an original idea?

      • Majella November 6, 2019 at 3:23 pm #

        There’s that “hate'” word again.

        I don’t ‘hate’ Trump. I find him to be a thief, a liar & a narcissist of highest order and a verifiable fool. He’s the BEST at everything – including being the ‘best’ narcissist.

        However, what he (or at least his joke administration) is doing in dismantling the basic tenets of western society and the underpinning functions of government is abhorrent and I do HATE that.

        • sunburstsoldier November 6, 2019 at 7:10 pm #

          “However, what he (or at least his joke administration) is doing in dismantling the basic tenets of western society and the underpinning functions of government is abhorrent and I do HATE that. ”

          What basics tenets do you refer to?

          • Majella November 6, 2019 at 8:58 pm #

            Alliances with like-minded democracies, for one, and abhorrence of dictatorship another.

            Okay, the second one maybe not so much, seeing as how through the Cold War, US foreign policy installed and supported tinpot dictatorships in order to have client states as bulwarks against the dreaded ‘commies’.

            The public discourse has also been infected. Where a Republican would once have worn a tee-shirt saying “Better Dead than Red”, now it would be “I’d rather be a Russian than a Democrat”. Check the snap of these two great examples of Alpha Male wisdom & strength. I guess they could be JhnAZ & Tate at a Hillbilly Nuremberg Rally.


            Do you RWNJs really BELIEVE that the dictator Putin wants to make the world a peaceful, more prosperous place?

          • hmuller November 7, 2019 at 1:31 am #

            So Majella, You want to restart the cold war because Putin is a “bad man”. A lot of world leaders are.

            Do you want world peace or do you want to follow the war-mongering Democrats, the MIC, the Neo-Cons, the deep state, and all those other ass holes with their perpetual wars of regime change and foreign intervention?!

            And just a little tip: you will never win people over to your cause by calling them hillbillies and Nazi’s. It just makes you look like a self-righteous, obnoxious elitist,

          • Majella November 7, 2019 at 3:34 am #

            Hmuller- Im not holding my breath on World Peace. I also don’t believe FFvCS could deliver it (aside from the fevered wishes of the hopefuls at his Miss Universe pageants).

            Nor do I hold any hope of the Trump Cultists being persuaded to my POV. Still. It behooves me to put my POV out there. All in good fun, eh?

          • hmuller November 7, 2019 at 10:57 am #

            You’re avoiding the fact that your ideological bed-fellows are a pack of evil murderers and oppressors of humanity. But you want to focus on Trump’s locker room talk of grabbing pussy. That’s the real crime, right!

    • JackStraw November 6, 2019 at 2:48 pm #

      It looks like you’re hallucinating your own personal fantasies right on the screen. Like most insane, fascistic, Trump-hating dimwits, you probably secretly dress up in Nazi uniforms at home where only your significant other, some type of pooch, can admire you in all your power and glory.

      • Majella November 6, 2019 at 3:26 pm #

        Jack Straw – What a foolish thing to fantasize about.

    • benr November 6, 2019 at 3:04 pm #

      rotflol that was not a small crowd it was 10,000+ people.
      Only shitty propaganda outlets like CNN refuse to show the entire crowd for Tump of course they do the opposite for people they support they make sure if there is no crowd they pack everyone in tight and never show the arena.

      • Majella November 6, 2019 at 3:29 pm #

        benr – glad you’re having a laugh! You need one from time to time, clearly.

        I didn’t mention his crowd. You’re off again!

        I was just stunned at how blatant his stream-of-consciousness lies have become. His admiring ‘base’ lap it up, just s you do. More fool you all.

        • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2019 at 3:44 pm #

          Ah, where would we be without Majella’s daily Two Minutes Hate exercise?

          Crossed fists high above her head, INGSOC flashing on the screen, then a caricature of President Trump, Majellas Goldstein … “Kill him! Kill him! Kill him!

          Then Majella calmly turns and exits the shabby, dimly lighted meeting hall.


    • Nightowl November 6, 2019 at 6:03 pm #

      Explain what he is guilty of. Provide concrete evidence.

      No Feelz.

      • Majella November 7, 2019 at 3:38 am #

        Night owl – your constant demands for evidence is getting very tired, especially considering the number of unsupported assertions you feel free to make on a wide range of topics. The evidence on Trump is everywhere, especially in his own words. Your TDS cult- based thinking simply allows you to block it out.

  72. 100th Avatar November 6, 2019 at 8:30 am #

    At various times JHK remarks about reading something in the NYT, usually something kooky. I abstain from reading the NYT, but today’s “news” review took me to the front page.

    The first thing to catch my eye was a story about how… I can’t believe I’m writing this… the Popeye’s Chicken Sandwich is authentically black. Yes. A fast-food chicken sandwich is legit. Got street cred.

    Is part of the struggle. Enough black folk have vouched, have said so. “Right on popeye’s chicken sandwich! Muthf***a can’t be found in no stores ‘cuz it sold the ***k out” (my quotes).

    Again, “suburban auto slums”, “techno-narcissism”, and now, as this highlights, the losing of minds of the purported thinking class has entered our vernacular, has given words and vocabulary to yet another palpable crisis.

    Usually as a consequence of ignoring, downplaying, or creating a new, reality

    Never mind that Popeyes was founded by a white fella who employed a stereotypical mammy character to shill its chicken.

    You see, that part of the struggle.. the appropriation.

    Spin & deflect y’all

    • Epicur November 6, 2019 at 8:39 am #

      Serving chicken (and fish, ribs, pork chops, etc.) with “light bread” was standard in small “mom and pop” stores in the rural South. More than a few of those stores were owned and operated by blacks. Most also gone with the wind, swept away by the big chain operations.

      • 100th Avatar November 6, 2019 at 9:06 am #

        I don’t disagree that fried chicken is a part of southern, southern rural, southern black, or black food culture. Most definitely is.

        But I just can’t get onboard with the NYT telling people, citing a certain ____ studies professor, named Psyche (no joke) that Popeyes new chicken sandwich is authentically black.

        It’s authentically a way to creep in on the market of a competing southern fast food chain mining gold with pretty much one thing: A FRIED CHICKEN SANDWICH.

        • sunburstsoldier November 6, 2019 at 10:02 am #

          Here’s an interesting aside:

          Maryland man was stabbed to death after a fight broke out over the highly anticipated Popeyes chicken sandwich. The sandwich chain reintroduced the sandwich to stores nationwide on Sunday after it ran out of the hottest item of 2019 several months ago. According to Prince George’s County, MD police, two men got into a scuffle over the sandwich which led to one man being stabbed and killed inside the restaurant.

          According to police, the fight began after one person cut in line for the sandwich Monday night. This skirmish escalated physically, which led to the victim being stabbed. He died in the hospital an hour later.

          “Knowing these details and knowing what happened here and knowing that a life was taken, it is hard to put into words; I can’t find the right words, to describe what this man did to this innocent victim,” Prince George police spokeswoman Jennifer Donelan told media.

          “For you to get that angry over anything — for that type of anger to develop into this type of violence, again is a very sad and tragic day,” Donelan added.

          “We do not yet know whether this was the result of a dispute over one of our products or something unrelated, but there is no reason for someone to lose their life on a Monday night in a parking lot,” Popeyes said in a statement to NBC News. “Our thoughts are with the victim’s family and friends and we are fully cooperating with local authorities.”

          • Janos Skorenzy November 6, 2019 at 1:04 pm #

            A Black Man. Are the old jokes about Blacks and Chicken just prejudice? Or are they post-judice – or based on actual observation?

            The latter of course.

          • Tate November 6, 2019 at 1:07 pm #

            You beat me to the punch, Janos. Judging by his name, the victim was Black. Pictures of the suspect show that he definitely is Black.

            Cutting in line is a Black thing.

          • benr November 6, 2019 at 3:01 pm #

            Now now I see people doing the same thing in cars because they are special and can’t wait like the rest of the cattle.
            Most of the time at least around here they are white as bread and driving expensive cars.

          • Tate November 6, 2019 at 3:39 pm #

            Yeah, but it’s usually the ebonians who get out of their cars &/or pull out their guns when things don’t go quite their way.

          • hmuller November 7, 2019 at 1:46 am #

            Prisons are full of people who did not logically weigh the long term consequences of lashing out; instead they react instinctively and violently to being “disrespected”.

            And you may notice something about the demographic breakdown of the prison population. – just saying.

          • 100th Avatar November 7, 2019 at 7:23 pm #

            I just thought it was rather ridiculous that the NYT was marketing Popeye’s (sold-out) Chicken Sandwich as a legitimate black thang.

            Wonder how much they were paid.

          • 100th Avatar November 7, 2019 at 7:27 pm #

            Wait. It makes sense now…Chick-fil-a is a strict southern baptist
            (a contemptible no-fun whitey thang if there ever was one), so of course they couldn’t resist touting the competition.

            Normally I’d be all over the southern baptists, but they’re only trying to conquer the fried chicken fast-food world.

        • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 11:40 am #

          You are so logical and rational. I just wish you didn’t have that colder side to you like what came out yesterday. Otherwise you always have insights. As if there is a such thing as race-specific food huh lol? They are all insane, as our friend Pucker likes to say from time to time!

  73. Sean Coleman November 6, 2019 at 9:47 am #

    “A big part of the true story is how amazingly incompetent the RussiaGate coupsters were.”

    This seems to be common to all collective fantasies. Perhaps they become so convinced in the righteousness of their cause (whichever one it be) that the end justifies any means. Why would they even need to think about covering their tracks? Trump was so self-evidently unfit for the job (so they reasoned) that there was no need to concern themselves with such details. In thrall to fantasy one cannot think clearly. it is a psychological derangement.

    I am sure I can give examples if anyone is interested. The GMC’s case against Prof. John Walker-Smith, the preeminent authority in his medical field, (and by extension against Dr Andrew Wakefield) springs to mind. It was a complete and utter shambles, or as the judge put it in the Prof;s successful appeal, it contained “inadequate and superificial reasoning and, in a number of instances, a wrong conclusion”. This in the biggest and longest case the General Medical Council had ever conducted.

    But the essential insanity of the phenomenon is always best illustrated by the moral panics. The notorious Shieldfield witch hunt springs to mind. Quoes from a Richard Webster article featuring Dr Richard Barker (a lecturer in social work at the Univerity of Northumbria) include:

    “After citing this letter Adrienne Page submitted that the conclusions of Richard Barker and his colleagues were “completely divorced from reality and common sense”, and had only been reached “after a process from which the most elementary notions of natural justice, fairness and impartiality were absent”. The case against the review team went further than this, however. The key question was whether the review team, in compiling their report, had been so driven by their determination to find Reed and Lillie guilty that they dishonestly concealed or misrepresented evidence which pointed to their innocence.”

    “The claim made in the report that the videos ‘would not support the view that questions were in any way leading’ was a flagrant untruth. Barker himself, in the notes he made, had written that one video interview contained ‘some leading questions, very focused on getting answers.’ In her closing submission Adrienne Page suggested that the team’s conduct in doing a secret deal with the police ‘was dishonest and unforgivable’.”

    “Cross-examined about these and other matters Professor Barker repeatedly gave answers which were evasive, misleading or less than truthful. Soon after he left the witness box the Evening Chronicle withdrew from the case entirely.”

    “The scenario was incredible. Yet it was this scenario that Professor Barker and his team chose to believe and publish to the world.”


    • Sean Coleman November 6, 2019 at 9:56 am #

      I just did a word search on Barker’s name in the article for the above quotes. Barker was the leader of an enquiry commissioned by Newcastle City Council to prove the guilt of two innocent nursery workers after a court judge had thrown out the case against them because there was no evidence.

      As Webster says:

      “IN NOVEMBER 1998, when the report of an inquiry into allegations of multiple abuse at a council-run nursery was published, no one questioned its authority.

      “The report, written by three social workers and a psychologist, was the most sensational in the history of British child protection. It led to front-page headlines in practically every national newspaper. “Some depths of human depravity simply defy belief”, said the Daily Mail. “Children as young as two were repeatedly molested by staff and … supplied to paedophiles for filmed sex sessions … In scenes of almost unimaginable horror, rapist paedophiles dressed as clowns or animals slashed terrified toddlers with knives”.

      “The report’s authors had been asked to examine complaints by parents that two trained nursery nurses, Dawn Reed and Chris Lillie, who worked together at Shieldfield nursery, had sexually and physically abused a large number of very young children in their care. Although Reed and Lillie had previously been acquitted in a criminal trial, the inquiry concluded that they were guilty not only of carrying out horrific acts of abuse themselves but also of supplying children to a paedophile ring whose members had raped and abused their young victims, and used them in the making of child pornography,

      “Esther Rantzen put out a press release. “At ChildLine, we have followed this tragic case from the beginning,” she wrote. “This is one of the worst cases of mass child abuse ever seen in this country.” Later, in the Daily Express, Beatrix Campbell told her readers that the “stringent” inquiry had found “persuasive evidence of sadistic and sexual abuse of up to 350 children”.”

      It is the same insanity at work in Russia- and WhistleGate as in this and all our many contemporary collective fantasies. I don’t know how one can acquire immunity but all the evidence suggests that a university degree (including climatology) or working in the media put you at risk. Perhaps someone might discover a vaccination.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 6, 2019 at 1:06 pm #

        Or the madness of the Amazon Synod where “Pope” Francis is utterly betraying the Faith of our Fathers in favor Globalist Gaia worship. Pray for his intentions? Only a dupe would do that!

      • Majella November 6, 2019 at 3:34 pm #

        Read “A City Possessed” by Lynley Hood. She provides a deep & insightful analysis of historic ‘witch-hunt’ style public hysterias over the centuries, as a background to the Christchurch Civic Creche Case of the mid-1990s.


        • Sean Coleman November 7, 2019 at 9:35 am #

          Interesting. I see Ro’y Connor of Irish Salem also mentioned it.

    • Nightowl November 6, 2019 at 5:48 pm #

      The Russian smear was used on Jill Stein and any opposition even before Trump won.

      They thought they were clever and that they could stop anyone who threatened their agenda. The only thing these criminals believe in is power and money.

  74. malthuss November 6, 2019 at 12:17 pm #

    The UK is a lost cause.

    Their new law that makes it illegal to privately fly their national flag
    s it could be “offensive” to immigrants.

    Now, the flag can only be displayed and flown at public institutions — and not by private residents.

    • malthuss November 6, 2019 at 12:18 pm #

      South Africa, Rhodesia, Korea to N and S Korea, etc.

    • volodya November 6, 2019 at 1:54 pm #

      I read that they took down the flag in prisons because it was too much for muslim inmates to contemplate. You don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

      But this is the doing of the – cough – educated elite so what do you expect?

      • sunburstsoldier November 6, 2019 at 2:39 pm #

        Do you have a cold? You cough a lot…

        • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 2:43 pm #

          I’ve been worrying about volodya’s larynx for years.

          • malthuss November 6, 2019 at 5:25 pm #

            so typical of U to deflect with an ad hominem.

          • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 7:35 pm #

            I didn’t deflect. I’m still waiting for either of you to provide a link.

            Not very well deflected.

        • volodya November 7, 2019 at 9:43 am #

          I get coughing fits when uttering the words “elite” and “educated”.

          • GreenAlba November 7, 2019 at 12:44 pm #

            We’ve noticed. But it’s beginning to come under the umbrella of ‘hackneyed phrases’. Besides which you are *cough* educated yourself.

            Not that I disagree with the basic contention regarding the spurious (TM) nature of much that passes for education in our Mickey Mouse world.

          • GreenAlba November 7, 2019 at 12:46 pm #

            But leaving aside that disturbing cough, I hope you finally decided whether to laugh or cry about your made-up story.

            Disappointed, I am, disappointed. Feet of clay an’ all.

      • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 2:42 pm #

        Obviously you’ve got some *cough* evidence for that, volodya?

        Not that I’m doubting you for a second *cough* obviously, but it’s nice to get the background.

        Same for malthuss.

        Thanks guys. I just like to keep up.

        And please be specific about which national flag(s) you’re referring to. You’ll know we have several. So ‘the flag’ isn’t very helpful.

        Some context would be useful.

        As I understand it, it’s compulsory for prisons (like all government buildings) to fly the Union flag on various royal birthdays and the like, but not at any other time, although it’s allowed if wished (by whom, I’ve no idea – the prison governor?).

        • Majella November 6, 2019 at 3:36 pm #

          I’ve always wondered at the (possibly unique) American habit of flying a flag outside their houses and wearing flag lapel pins.

          It’s not as if they’re likely to forget which country they’re living in, is it?

          • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 3:49 pm #

            Oh so like you’re not American today? What happened? Just the other day you were telling us that you loved us so much you were trying to assist with policy decisions.

          • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2019 at 4:07 pm #

            Hey Majella, how about the gay pride flag, are you down with that one? I’ve seen video of the American flag burning at Antifa rallies … but the Gay Pride flag, that rag is treated like the Shroud of Turin.


          • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 4:46 pm #

            “but the Gay Pride flag, that rag is treated like the Shroud of Turin.”

            What, you mean it turned out to be a 13th century fake? I didn’t know the rainbow thing went back that far. But then I don’t pay as much attention as you. Maybe it’s all those ‘feeds’ on your ‘device’.

          • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 5:21 pm #

            “I’ve always wondered at the (possibly unique) American habit of flying a flag outside their houses and wearing flag lapel pins.”

            Maybe it makes them feel as if Uncle Sam has his arm round them. 🙂

            Mind you, how big is the chip on this guy’s shoulder?


            Now THAT’s flying a flag outside your house!

          • Epicur November 6, 2019 at 8:38 pm #

            “I’ve always wondered at the (possibly unique) American habit of flying a flag outside their houses and wearing flag lapel pins. ”

            An upside down American flag is an officially recognized distress signal.

          • Majella November 7, 2019 at 3:44 am #

            SSL – I’m never an American – what are you on about?

            beg – huh? Straight to homophobia? When have I ever expressed ANY opinion on Gay Pride? Just fuck off.

            Epicur – yes, I understand that…is that a reason for the flag display thing these days?

          • Epicur November 7, 2019 at 11:46 am #

            Majella November 7, 2019 at 3:44 am #

            Ignore my comment. I just had some sort of “senior moment” and read “upside down” into your comment – can’t imagine how.

          • Epicur November 7, 2019 at 12:06 pm #

            @ Majella November 6, 2019 at 3:36 pm #

            In order to disprove my senility I will now attempt a rational answer.

            I think the enthusiasm for the flag partly stems from the desire of immigrants to show that they belong to the nation. To wit: this scene from “Yankee Doodle Dandy” by George M. Cohan (son of Irish immigrants).


            I think another impetus was the divisiveness of the Vietnam war. A significant portion of the populace made showing the flag a statement against the antiwar movement. That period of history left some scars of guilt on the national psyche to the point that even if people oppose some military actions of our government many are adamant to “support the troops” (the individual service men and women) and they show it by showing the flag.

          • Epicur November 7, 2019 at 12:37 pm #

            Re: my previous:

            Minor brain fart: The movie was ABOUT George M. Cohan who WROTE “Yankee Doodle Dandy” and “You’re a Grand Old Flag”.

            No more corrections – regardless – this is turning into the Spanish Inquisition sketch.

          • Majella November 7, 2019 at 7:06 pm #


            Why am I having a HUGE ‘deja vu’ moment when I read this –

            “I think the enthusiasm for the flag partly stems from the desire of immigrants to show that they belong to the nation. To wit: this scene from “Yankee Doodle Dandy” by George M. Cohan (son of Irish immigrants)”

            I feel you’ve posted that (or something similar previously, or am *I* having a senior moment?

    • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2019 at 3:52 pm #

      Can that possibly be true?

      I know Sweden is going down that path, banning the national flag, as well as the cross, so as to not offend Muzzies and Africans.

      What a pathetic, pisshole dishrag country Great Britain has became. Think of the American blood and treasure that was expended to save their asses in 1918, 1944 and the Cold War period 1945-1990. What a waste. Better to have left them to the tender mercies of the Germans or the Russians.

      That’s where my ancestors came from. I’m happy they got the hell out of that sh-thole.


      • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 4:50 pm #

        Now, that’s more like it, brh. I was surprised at volodya spouting utter bullshit he ‘read somewhere’ (although I won’t be the next time, obviously) but with you doing it I’m back in my comfort zone and all’s right with the world.

        ” I’m happy they got the hell out of that sh-thole.”

        I don’t recall anyone saying they were missed but I’ll ask around.

        But isn’t it weird that you’re the one who gives us daily updates on your own shithole? Or maybe I misunderstood…

        • BackRowHeckler November 7, 2019 at 6:59 am #

          If my ancestors had remained in Chatham I might be one of the lunatics on the streets of London, superglueing myself to the hull of a commuter train, invieghing the govt to do something about England’s lousy weather, and getting arrested in the process.


          • Majella November 7, 2019 at 10:07 am #

            Lots of your other ancestors surely DID remain in Chatham. Nice to know who these climate extinction LWNJs are! Thanks!

          • GreenAlba November 7, 2019 at 1:08 pm #

            Yes we discussed England’s lousy weather before. And the way it’s changing.


            But I’d agree with you that part of Kent’s certainly not the reason it was called the Garden of England. Never been there myself but I can see why your ancestors would have chosen to leave it.


            These folks seem to agree with you. Didn’t realise the word ‘chav’ originated in your ancestral hometown – the things you learn.

            My brother’s wife’s family were from Gillingham – they’ve all left too. But Chatham died a death when the naval docks closed down, I believe.

            Glad I don’t live there anyway.

      • Majella November 6, 2019 at 8:45 pm #

        To paraphrase one Robert Muldoon:

        “Anyone leaving Britain to move to the USA has the net effect of raising the average IQ on both sides of the Atlantic”

        • hmuller November 7, 2019 at 1:55 am #

          No longer content to insult the President, you now constantly insult the very country in which you are a guest, Majella. You show the world your manners.

        • Majella November 7, 2019 at 3:47 am #

          A wry joke, gone astray, hmuller. Brh wasn’t joking when he called Britain a shithole, but then he’s in YOUR tribe, so nothing to say about that, huh. You’re consistent in your outraged hypocrisy, I’ll give you that.

          • hmuller November 7, 2019 at 11:20 am #

            Apology accepted. And I’m not a hypocrite. I suffer from multiple personality disorder. In fact, one of my 17 persona’s is a transvestite lounge singer named Camille. You’d like her.

          • GreenAlba November 7, 2019 at 1:13 pm #

            She might like Chatham. 🙂

          • Majella November 7, 2019 at 1:33 pm #

            What apology, you self-righteous twat?

          • GreenAlba November 7, 2019 at 4:26 pm #

            hm gets confused, Majella. I think he was apologising to Camille. 🙂

          • GreenAlba November 7, 2019 at 4:27 pm #

            Or rather Camille was apologising to him. Confusion can be contagious.

      • volodya November 7, 2019 at 10:40 am #

        BRH, Can that possibly be true? it was in the news a while back, sometime in the last 15 years I would say, so good luck finding reference to it. Buried in the sands of time.

        Truly cringe-making, such a great people having founded the world’s best countries besides the UK – the US, Canada, Australia, NZ – fallen down to this. I showe my wife and we looked at each other and laughed. The only other option was to weep. I’m not a weeper by nature so I laughed. I’m usually with old school Brits on this, stiff upper lip and all, but I couldn’t help laughing. Better than crying. Either way, keeping a straight face was impossible.

        In any case, given the mind-bending shit that’s touted as the last word in wisdom nowadays, taking down a flag in a prison so as to not offend, well, that’s pretty small beer. So you might ask yourself, how can it NOT be true?

        The flag of St George especially is seen by the great, the – cough – educated (there’s that throat again) and the self-proclaimed wonderful as the symbol of wretched ignorance and racism in the lower classes so, when they see it, they send unbelieving journalists to question the miscreants that fly it:


        You read this and you stand awestruck. Pathetic, yes, in spades.

        I truly wish the commoner in the UK the best of luck. They have my deepest sympathy. Beset as they are by the inbred cretins that run the place, progressively more debilitated as the decades roll by (the tottering toffs running WW1 were Einsteinian geniuses compared to the dick-heads and the dick-head acolytes they have today), they’re gonna need it.

        This is for Americans of the intellectually – cough – (damn this throat) elevated sort, that cringe when they see a display of the Stars and Stripes; you’re likely to see a whole lot of Maple Leaf flags if you drive through Canada. And, yes, in small towns where I have some relatives, displayed on flagpoles in front yards. So, cringe not, in that paragon of progressive theory and practice, they fly the flag. I saw with my own eyes.

        • GreenAlba November 7, 2019 at 1:32 pm #

          “In any case, given the mind-bending shit that’s touted as the last word in wisdom nowadays, taking down a flag in a prison so as to not offend, well, that’s pretty small beer. So you might ask yourself, how can it NOT be true?”

          Still waiting…

          The tone of the author of the Graun article seems to have been lost on you, like much of the historical narrative that you wouldn’t be expected to be familiar with.

        • GreenAlba November 7, 2019 at 1:34 pm #

          My daughter has been known to paint the Scottish flag on her face when she goes to concerts. It looks quite fetching. Who cares?

          She rarely resorts to making up stories though, for effect.

      • volodya November 7, 2019 at 3:26 pm #

        BRH, somehow overlooked this tidbit from a UK rag, the Daily Mail, a town on Somerset stops flying the flag of St George because it might offend Muslims.


        You want to weep.

        • GreenAlba November 7, 2019 at 4:36 pm #

          I’d offer you some tissues, voloday, if I were nearer.

          But I see the headline is nonsense because they didn’t ‘stop’ flying the flag of St George, since they never had one. They just decided to fly the Union Jack instead, which is the flag normally flying outside public offices, but only one days like Armistice Day, royal birthdays and the like.

          It’s true, though, that the flag of St George was originally a crusader flag before it was adopted as the English flag. Oddly, since George was a member of the Praetorian Guard, from Cappadocia, but there’s no understanding the English.

          • Majella November 7, 2019 at 7:09 pm #

            Indeed. The Rosacrucians.

      • volodya November 7, 2019 at 3:33 pm #



        St George’s Cross (the English flag) tie-pin on prison officers could be inciting to Muslim inmates. So could Red Cross badges.

        Can it possibly be true? You tell me.

        • GreenAlba November 7, 2019 at 4:44 pm #

          I saw that story already. Nothing to do with removing a prison flag, as you claimed.

          The English flag would not be official uniform as a tie pin. And the flag outside a government building, as I mentioned already, would be the Union Jack.

          You still appear to be ignorant of recent historical issues around the English flag. Previously the English pretty much appropriated the Union flag for themselves, at football matches and the like, since they appeared unable to make the distinction between themselves and the rest of the Union. Britain is England; England is Britain, kinda thing.

          Personally, I (a) don’t think it is appropriate as a tie pin on an official government uniform, but (b) very much welcome the increased use of the flag elsewhere, since it is most definitely a good thing that it is being distanced from its previous recent adoption by fascist elements such as the British National Party (now pretty much defunct, since the English have little appetite for fascists and Nazis).

          So, go for it, English flagwavers.

      • volodya November 7, 2019 at 3:51 pm #

        Another example, Bristol City council pulls the same stunt. Bans Flag of St George:


        Too multi-culti they say.

        More than possibly true.

        • GreenAlba November 7, 2019 at 4:46 pm #

          Bristol has always been multi-culti – to a large extent as a result of being a feckin’ slave-trading port.

        • Nightowl November 8, 2019 at 4:09 am #

          “According to the Daily Star Sunday, Kalphna Woolf, founder of 91 Ways to Build a Global City, which aims to unite Bristol’s multicultural communities, said people can be frightened of the white and red St George’s flag.

          She said: “There was a point in the past when I’d see the St George’s Day flag flying and it would frighten me […]

          One could confuse this with satire from the Onion.

          Globalist PR orcs distracting the slaves with comedy wedge issues as the global surveillance state tightens its grip.

  75. Tate November 6, 2019 at 1:21 pm #

    Look what just happened in Kansas City!

    After changing the name of The Paseo — an historic north/south street that runs largely through Black neighborhoods — to Martin Luther King Boulevard just a year ago, a petition was organized to change it back to The Paseo. The petition won!

    But at a Black church meeting to protest the new name change, a silent group of supporters of The Paseo name crowded into the church with signs & t-shirts & refused to sit down. The disrupters were called “racists” despite many of them being Black to judge by the photo. This looks like the way forward. We will have to infiltrate progressive & zionist front organizations like Turning Point USA to pull back the curtain on the thugs.

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  76. Janos Skorenzy November 6, 2019 at 1:31 pm #


    Victory at least for now. The City was so fucking desperate (why?) to change the historical name for a street that they didn’t even follow protocal and procedure. As if there aren’t enough streets named after that Communist Whoremonger, Plagiarist, and Rabble Rouser. Why not change all streets to Martin Luther King blvd, lane, drive, etc. Distinguishing between them with the use of letters and numbers, such as MLK Lane 1a, etc.

    Better yet, name streets after real Black heroes like Kanye West and Mike Tyson. People who have actually done valuable things – like biting people’s ears off.

    • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 3:41 pm #

      Kanye West is becoming a Preacher, and not just another Negro bishop but a real Preacher!

      • Janos Skorenzy November 6, 2019 at 6:55 pm #

        What makes you say so? Ann Barnhardt seemed to think so too, But I googled and found this:


        • SoftStarLight November 7, 2019 at 2:18 am #

          Well its complicated. You see, even super genuine preachers know that part of the sermon is show. You know how simple many people are. They need that showy aspect to engage at all. But to learn anything at a deeper level the audience must be engaged. So a preacher who knows his audience knows how to talk to it. Different audiences require different languages sometimes, though not literally. Kanye knows this and knows how to talk to his audience. And he isn’t trying to talk to the righteous. He is talking to sinners.

          • Majella November 7, 2019 at 3:51 am #

            Great TV show for you SSL ‘The Righteous Gemstones’ – good ol ‘ Southern preachin’ family dynasty. Not sure which network, but I heartily recommend it to you.

          • GreenAlba November 7, 2019 at 5:57 pm #

            “You know how simple many people are. They need that showy aspect to engage at all. ”

            Oh. My. God. Did you just insult the intelligence of The People?

      • Majella November 6, 2019 at 9:12 pm #

        A real, tax-free, institutional church ‘preacher’. “Gotta feed the family”.

  77. PeteAtomic November 6, 2019 at 1:52 pm #

    …..and also Jeffrey Epstein did not kill himself…

    had to throw that in for ya Janos

    • Janos Skorenzy November 6, 2019 at 2:27 pm #

      Who killed him? A Black named Martin, Malcolm, or John? I’m an agnostic on the issue of whether he’s actually dead. He may well be enjoying the famed brothels of Tel Aviv even as we speak. But yes, he certainly didn’t kill himself.

      Only Nuclear Fusion can save us. Why not change your name to PeteFusion? It’s either that or peat moss and eating rats.

      • sunburstsoldier November 6, 2019 at 3:18 pm #

        The UB says there is another form of renewable energy we have yet to discover that will supply us with all the energy we will ever need…

        • Janos Skorenzy November 7, 2019 at 3:57 pm #

          Why don’t you ask Christ to reveal it to you then? And ask Him about me while you’re at it. You follow the Path of Devotion. He will tell you that I follow the Path of Wisdom.

          I’ll take the High Road and you take the Low Road and I’ll be in Scotland before ye. Or perhaps yours in the High Road. In any case, both roads go There.

          • GreenAlba November 7, 2019 at 5:58 pm #

            *afore* ye.

          • Majella November 7, 2019 at 7:13 pm #

            Lol – you two and your imaginary friend!

      • PeteAtomic November 6, 2019 at 5:30 pm #

        Why not change your name to PeteFusion?

        hmmm…. lol

  78. amb November 6, 2019 at 2:30 pm #

    The pivotal point in this stretch of the USA biography will be how Barr and Durham deal with the circumstances. How they resolve this epic blight on the history of our country. A delicate and highly explosive matter to say the least.

    If they are not detached, objective, fully adherent to our Constitution, Bill of Rights, Rule of Law and Jurisprudence… if they prove to be Deep Staters themselves or condoners or cowards… We The People and out country are doomed.

    If there is not full accountability, a sledgehammer of justice, a purging and reformation… we are doomed.

  79. Tate November 6, 2019 at 2:43 pm #

    James Kirkpatrick is onto something with this column concerning the nature of ‘Conservatism, Inc,’ a “parasitic network of nonprofits, phony activist organizations, and outright scam operations masquerading as a movement.”

    “The most poisonous way it works: taking idealistic young campus conservatives and forcing them to parrot meaningless slogans about the glories of neoliberalism and big business. Such nonsense is irrelevant to the lived experience of young (and mostly white) campus conservatives, who are confronted with radical anti-white politics, corporate censorship, and the ruinous cost of family formation. Preaching about tax cuts for the rich and bragging about anti-racism is utterly hollow to these young Americans who see their country being dismantled.”

    Kirkpatrick also takes aim at Congressman Dan ‘the Pirate’ Crenshaw from Texas’s 2nd congressional district (Houston.) I urge all CFNers from his district to vote against Crenshaw in his next election bid. After all, he is obviously white & his constituency is largely black & hispanic & rapidly becoming more so. Therefore, he has no right representing them.

    • Tate November 6, 2019 at 2:51 pm #

      Here is the link to James Kirkpatrick’s article.

      • BackRowHeckler November 6, 2019 at 5:54 pm #

        I remember those ‘Young Conservative’ types around campus, wearing George Will bowties and carrying the latest issue of National Review. They seemed not to understand what they were up against, and thought they could deal with the opposition with polite parliamentary rules of engagement, using Marguis of Queensbury methods in a streetlight, if you will.

        They ran around the place like squirrels, carrying briefcases. Still, I was on friendly terms with them.


    • sunburstsoldier November 6, 2019 at 2:52 pm #

      “Kirkpatrick also takes aim at Congressman Dan ‘the Pirate’ Crenshaw from Texas’s 2nd congressional district (Houston.) I urge all CFNers from his district to vote against Crenshaw in his next election bid. After all, he is obviously white & his constituency is largely black & hispanic & rapidly becoming more so. Therefore, he has no right representing them. ”

      Are you being sarcastic? Why is Kirkpatrick taking aim at Crenshaw?
      What are CFNers? Why is the sky blue?

      • Janos Skorenzy November 6, 2019 at 2:58 pm #

        Conservatism is a Fraud which conserves nothing but the System and the portfolios of the Elite. It’s professional wrestling where the Neo-Cons and Neo-Liberals are all buddies back in the locker room.

        Do you need everything explained to you. Crenshaw? Fuck the Cyclops. Think of Kirk Douglas cavorting and shouting, “Wine for Polythemus!”.

        • sunburstsoldier November 6, 2019 at 3:02 pm #

          Everything except what really matters which is not politics…

          • Janos Skorenzy November 6, 2019 at 3:08 pm #

            Oh you know and we’re being sarcastic? I crave your indulgence. Now about Blacks, the Urantia Book, and your Sun in Law…..

            Surely they combine the negative aspects of both the lost Green and Orange races. Even “science” has found traces of a lost race – a different one than the Neanderthal genes prevalent in White and Northeast Asians. Homo Erectus survived in Africa long after He had died out elsewhere. Probably some variation of that. The Original Sin might have been Modern Man returning to Africa and mating down with these sub-men.

      • sunburstsoldier November 6, 2019 at 3:04 pm #

        I read Kirkpatrick’s article but I don’t really understand what he’s talking about. Is he talking about neo-cons representing the Deep State?

        • Tate November 6, 2019 at 3:14 pm #

          Roughly, yes.

      • Tate November 6, 2019 at 3:13 pm #

        We need to deplatform all the fake conservatives who work for GloboHomo*. For congresscritters, this means calling out their hypocrisy & accelerating their removal from office in districts whose constituencies they don’t represent. We need more AOCs to upset the white grifters who think they can play both sides against the middle.

        *Globohomo: Globalist homogenization

  80. Janos Skorenzy November 6, 2019 at 3:03 pm #

    Majella’s first date with Trump.


    “I’m vibrating from head to foot”….

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    • sunburstsoldier November 6, 2019 at 3:07 pm #

      He could pull her arm out of its socket if he wanted to. He’s probably wondering what the White Babe is doing in his neck of the woods…

      • sunburstsoldier November 6, 2019 at 3:09 pm #

        What is it with these Hollywood types? Do they have a death wish?

        • Janos Skorenzy November 6, 2019 at 3:16 pm #

          Maj begins to scream, Orange Man Good. Orange Man Good.

      • Janos Skorenzy November 6, 2019 at 3:12 pm #

        I don’t blame him. I love that big mouth of Julia Roberts. Alas, mostly found among Jewish women who I must avoid now that I have awakened. By that I mean the physical feature. Women who can’t shut up are prevalent among all ethnes and races. God has been most “generous” with this….

        • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 3:39 pm #

          LOL 😉

          • Janos Skorenzy November 6, 2019 at 3:48 pm #

            Spelled backwards is also LOL – or Lots of Love. Our first meeting will be so different. Sookie (Socky) meets Bill for the first time.


          • Majella November 6, 2019 at 3:54 pm #

            Janos, your sweet li’l southern gal, Sookie, is a Kiwi actor,, whose actual accent is way more like mine than SSL’s.


          • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 4:01 pm #

            OMG you are such a romantic that I am left speechless in such a wonderful way.

          • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 4:03 pm #

            Oh Majella there is no possibility you can ruin this moment despite you being you.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 6, 2019 at 4:36 pm #

            Yes, it’s a wonderful scene. If a few years when the kids get a bit older you’ll just have to get a job in DINER. The short skirt will really get my motor going once I sit down and start looking around.

            And I notice how Maj didn’t even respond to the Ape stuff, but when straight up into our business.

          • Tate November 6, 2019 at 6:30 pm #

            Gap between her front teeth. This indicates sexual promiscuity. Nothing wrong with that. Actually there is but whatever. Mrs. Tate’s mouth is perfectly formed, neither too wide nor too narrow. She owned a decorative plate painted of a young madchen (someday I’ll get around to working in the umlaut but for now why bother?). I asked her, was that you when you were young, she said no, I bought it when I studied in Germany for a year. It looked almost exactly like the young Mrs. Tate. What perfection! She is the most beautiful woman I’ve ever known, even in her old age with lines in her face. Once someone said we looked like brother & sister. Ironic because even though my surname is germanic, I’m mostly of English & Ulster-Scots extraction. We produced the perfect son, a ginger, who some have nicknamed “Ginger Jesus.”

          • Janos Skorenzy November 6, 2019 at 7:00 pm #

            Ah, a lucky man. Most of you few have no sympathy for the average man – and thus no deep understanding of our Social Malady and/or no deep gratitude either.You don’t seem to be like this though.

          • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 7:29 pm #


            “someday I’ll get around to working in the umlaut but for now why bother?”

            No bother. Alt +132 on the numeric keypad.


          • GreenAlba November 6, 2019 at 7:33 pm #

            “Gap between her front teeth. This indicates sexual promiscuity. ”
            You clearly never met my mother. Where do you get such barmy ideas?

          • Majella November 6, 2019 at 8:41 pm #

            “And I notice how Maj didn’t even respond to the Ape stuff, but when straight up into our business.”

            You’re kidding, right?

            Such a puerile attempt deserves to be ignored.

            As to going ‘straight up into our business’, this is a PUBLIC blog. If you want to cootchie-coo with L’il Ms Louisiana, get a private channel.

          • SoftStarLight November 7, 2019 at 1:21 am #

            The fact that this is a public blog is not the point and you know that. The point is that it is true and interesting that you jumped into only that little part of the conversation in which Janos was talking directly to me. It happens often actually. That’s why he was remarking about you being in our business. And he was just noticing it so the little puerile comment is bizarre no? And your insinuation that anything racy or TMI is going on is just your way of trying to cheapen the sweet words he said to me and you aren’t going to get away with it. You know, it’s completely bewildering to me that you interpret a bit of romantic insinuation and daydreaming as something dirty and tawdry when your language can be so course and vile. And you make fun of me for being religious and dogmatic. And yet, you become a punitive Puritan when just a touch of romance is mentioned. Your overreaction tells me so much.

          • Janos Skorenzy November 7, 2019 at 3:23 am #

            What’s with your obsession with the South, Maj? It’s as bizarre as I went to New Zealand and hated on the South Island. I just love it when foreigners adopt American prejudices to hate on other Americans. Take a long walk on a short pier.

          • Majella November 7, 2019 at 3:58 am #

            SSL – the fact it’s a public blog IS the point. Don’t expect privacy.

            And your righteous indignation is pointless – re-read the thread. I’m not going to relitigate what was stated as if I was interviewing Kelly-Anne Conway. Just grow up.

          • GreenAlba November 7, 2019 at 1:44 pm #

            I was rather hoping for a little thank you from Tate for helping him out with his mädchen problem. What happened to those southern manners we used to hear about?

        • malthuss November 6, 2019 at 5:28 pm #

          Julia has a house nearby.

          I do not know her but read she keeps a shrine to ‘miracle man’ Neem Karoli, made famous by j— homo druggie Rick alpert.

        • malthuss November 6, 2019 at 5:30 pm #

          I was walking and in 10 minutes or less I saw 2 people.
          They were not together.

          The man might have been 300-600 pounds and 6’8?

          The other [a woman??] was 6’1? and 300 pounds.
          It had boobs but looked like a man.

          guess their heritage.

    • Tate November 6, 2019 at 3:20 pm #

      Good one! Does Majella really have a secret attraction to the Orange One? Story developing…

      • Majella November 6, 2019 at 3:51 pm #

        Tate, it’s just one more ‘theory’ from the Conspiracy Mill that operates in the tiny brains of the RWNJs.

        • SoftStarLight November 6, 2019 at 4:08 pm #