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History in Free Verse

H istory might not rhyme, exactly, but it’s not bad for free verse. Greece is this century’s Serbia — a tiny, picturesque backwater nation blundering haplessly into the center stage of geopolitics. And the European Union is, whaddaya know, Germany in drag, on financial steroids.

Nobody knows what will happen next in the struggle to wring some kind of debt repayment promises out of poor Greece. Without “restructuring” — a virtual national bankruptcy proceeding — there can be no plausible promises of repayment. Both sides seem to have exhausted their abilities to juke their way out. The European Union and its wing-men at the European Central Bank (ECB) and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) can only pretend to kick that fabled can down the road because it has turned into a cement-filled 50-gallon drum. The Greek government can only pretend to further dismantle its civil service and pension systems lest angry citizens toss it out and replace it with a new government, perhaps an ugly and pugnacious one made up of Golden Dawn party Nazis.

In the background, Spain, Portugal, Italy, Ireland, and perhaps even France wait without peeping to see if Greece is allowed to restructure, because you can be sure they will demand the same privilege to debt relief. But that’s hardly possible because the ECB has been engineering a shift of debt-holding away from the big corporate banks  — which made all the stupid loans — to the taxpayers of their member states, especially Germany, which stands to be the biggest bag-holder when a contagion of serial default seeps across the continent.

This implies, of course, that along the way to that outcome something sickening happens to the price of all the bonds that the debt is embodied in. Namely, its value craters for the simple reason that the threat of non-payment makes interest rates shoot up to reflect the actualization of risk. That would certainly set off the booby-trap of derivative interest rate swaps and credit default swaps that have been laid into history’s greatest financial minefield. Thus, the big banks that were supposedly shielded by the ECB shell game of Hide the Debt Pea Somewhere Else, will blow up in a daisy-chain of unpayable obligations.

The net effect of all that will be the disappearance of nominal wealth — it crosses an event horizon into a black hole never to be seen again. The continent discovers it is a lot poorer than it thought. Fifty years of financial engineering comes to the grief it deserves for promoting the idea that it’s possible to get something for nothing.

The same thing more or less awaits the USA, China, and Japan. For the USA in particular the signs of bankruptcy have been starkly visible for a long time outside the bubble regions of New York, Washington, and San Francisco. You see it in the amazing decrepitude of the built environment — the cities and towns left for dead, the struggling suburban strip malls tenanted if at all by wig shops and check-cashing operations, the rusted bridges, pot-holed highways, the Third World style train service. Most sickeningly you see it in a population of formerly earnest, hard-working, basically-educated people with hopes and dreams transformed into a hopeless moiling underclass of tattooed savages dressed in baby clothes devoting their leisure hours (i.e. all their time) to drug-seeking and the erasure of sexual boundaries.

That shocking social and political bankruptcy has, so far, acted as the sinkhole for all America’s financial degeneracy and the entropy it generates. The financial class (the 1 percent who own 40-plus percent of the financialized economy) must think it’s immune to the consequences of its activities, namely racketeering of one kind or another — criminal misconduct and accounting fraud in the service of money-grubbing. They must truly believe that risk has been offloaded into the ring-fenced concentration camps of capital: the derivatives pools. But risk, like rust, never sleeps and can’t be so easily contained. The obstreperous claims of debt only die down with the acknowledged disappearance of wealth, as when a bottom-feeding collection agency attempts to collect a few cents on the dollar of a car loan gone bad.

The US Federal Reserve, like the European Central Bank, sits atop a vault of bonds representing a colossal aggregate promise to repay debt that can never be repaid. Their loss of value will come to be seen for what it is: the disappearance of national wealth. We’ll have our moment, too, when the 50-gallon can full of cement can’t be kicked down the road another inch. It might come when Europe sets the example for a loss of faith in a system run to crime and rot.

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508 Responses to “History in Free Verse”

  1. AKlein June 22, 2015 at 8:49 am #

    JHK reports this week on what happens in you live in a Magic Kingdom of the mind. Inevitably, reality comes in, oozing in at first, until the dam breaks..

    • AKlein June 22, 2015 at 8:49 am #

      “…happens if

    • abbybwood June 22, 2015 at 1:34 pm #

      I think the events in Greece will have to ultimately be filed in the “We Didn’t Think” section of the cabinet.

      Seems the “sanctions” on Putin are back-firing and now Vlad has swooped into Greece to do a multi-billion dollar pipeline deal, which could solve some of their financial problems at least temporarily.

      This game of Real World Monopoly that the PTB have devised would be lots of fun to sit back and watch if the end didn’t mean WW III:


    • abbybwood June 22, 2015 at 3:53 pm #

      Set your calendars for June 22nd. Supposedly a giant solar storm is revving up that could put the U.S. and Europe into the dark ages:


      Then we won’t need to worry about any silly economic turmoil!


      • mercpl June 22, 2015 at 8:11 pm #

        Well, June 22nd has come and gone and sure there were a few radio blackouts up in the Arctic, but no TEOTWAWKI. (The End Of The World As We Know It)

        But maybe next time, another 1859 type solar event is inevitable,but it’s a bit like Asteroids, Earthquakes and Tsunamis, nobody knows when.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 22, 2015 at 10:42 pm #

          Damn it! Why wont the world end on time!

    • progress4what June 22, 2015 at 9:35 pm #

      Thanks for the week’s work, JHK. We are living in interesting times, which are becoming more interesting by the year. It’s not often that you seem to be drawn in by blatant propaganda, but it my have happened this week when you say:

      “The Greek government can only pretend to further dismantle its civil service and pension systems lest angry citizens toss it out and replace it with a new government, perhaps an ugly and pugnacious one made up of Golden Dawn party Nazis.”

      Greek politics is beyond my ken. It seems violent and foreign, by current US standards. Greece was a Cold War fulcrum, and may be becoming a fulcrum for something worse, soon. Some of Golden Dawn has been killed by shadowy opponents. Others of Golden Dawn have been charged by crimes and prosecuted. Question is – at whose bequest have these killings, arrests, and prosecutions occurred – because I very much doubt that it was at the bequest of most native born Greeks.

      Go ahead and label, though. Wikipedia and the US MSM tell us that Golden Dawn is “Nazi.” It must be true. Those sources are never wrong, right?


  2. dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 9:14 am #

    “In the background, Spain, Portugal, Ireland, and perhaps even France wait without peeping…”

    History in free verse = appeasement?

    • Neon Vincent June 22, 2015 at 9:39 am #

      Appeasement? Greece is in no mood for appeasing the EU any more. I’m sure the rest of the countries our host mentioned aren’t either. Besides, the metaphor breaks down if applied too much to Grexit. It would work better with Vladimir Putin, Macho Man, but the EU and the US don’t seem interested in that, either.

      Back to our host, who wrote “risk, like rust, never sleeps”–hey, a Neil Young reference! Mr. Young got in the news this week by telling off Donald Trump for using “Rockin’ in the Free World” at his campaign kickoff without permission. My wife had another response to the Comb Over’s candidacy, that Trump is Penguin for President. I agree with her. Both Trump and Penguin are cartoons of what poor people expect rich people to look and act like. The difference is that Trump actually exists in the real world.

      • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 4:29 pm #

        Mr Neon,

        When I wrote that Spain, Portugal, Ireland, and perhaps even France wait without peeping is the equivalent of appeasement, and that history is in free verse, I was referring to the historic moment that Germany (always) had invaded Poland prior to our memory of WW ll and was “appeased”.

        Next time I’ll include the original historic event that is being repeated in free verse. Appeasement is what the other countries are doing, not what Greece should do. Appeasement is what Europe (notably Chamberlain in the UK) did in the historical event that is now being repeated, as in “history is in free verse”.

        That Appeasement thing didn’t work so well then, so I am not recommending it for Greece (as you read me to recommend), or to Spain…France.

        These countries need to remember their history, or be doomed to repeat it.

        My Comment was a History Lesson. But I guess it wasn’t clearly understood, so I guess I should assume that history repeats in free verse, or that I need to write longer posts.

        But, then Mr Janos will have his Objections, which are not worth hearing.

        • sauerkraut June 22, 2015 at 6:47 pm #

          I think that the history lesson might continue with profit.

          … Those who … are ready to fight whenever some challenge comes from a foreign Power, have not always been right. … How many wars have been averted by patience and persisting good will! … How many wars have been precipitated by firebrands! How many misunderstandings which led to wars could have been removed by temporising!

          Churchill, Gathering Storm (unabridged edition)

          Affairs are rarely clearcut, even to those who have the facts. For those who do not, to demand petulant and vindictive adherence to blind aggression, is the stuff of tragedy. Ask any German.

      • ejhr June 23, 2015 at 6:44 am #

        I think The Donald is the best candidate. All the candidates so far are idiots or venal, nothing good.
        The Donald is a transparent one. He is also rich enough to give the finger to lobbyists. So he won’t be so easily bought.
        That is a huge advantage.

        • Frankiti June 23, 2015 at 5:14 pm #

          The president doesn’t get lobbied, dimwit. Your elected representatives in congress/senate do, you know, the ones that make the laws for your president to sign.

  3. DrTomSchmidt June 22, 2015 at 9:15 am #

    I recall here Nassim Nicholas Taleb’s idea of Antifragility. The death of a few cells in an organ, their individual fragility, leads to the overall improved fitness of the organ, its antifragility. Removal of a diseased organ can lead to the improved fitness of the organism, and so on up the line.

    Taleb specifically mentions the antifragility of large banks: in order for that highest-level of the financialized economy to be robust to challenges, lower levels (the tax-paying public) must be made fragile. So it has happened, but now the lower levels cannot absorb any more fragility. The beaten-down publics of Ireland and the USA have the shopworn look of people who have taken on the risk from the big banks but gotten none of the reward.

  4. dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 9:17 am #

    “That would certainly set off the booby-trap of derivative interest rate swaps and credit default swaps that have been laid into history’s greatest financial minefield.”

    time to check you pension nest egg…
    …and your State’s/ Municipal investments.

  5. dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 9:18 am #

    “Fifty years of financial engineering comes to the grief it deserves for promoting the idea that it’s possible to get something for nothing.”

    Gold = money

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    • 99 cent nation June 22, 2015 at 11:19 am #

      Food, Water = Money

      • Beryl of Oyl June 22, 2015 at 1:14 pm #

        That’s what I always thought about the fracking debate – the water is worth more than the oil. No “widespread” contamination of the water supply is being touted as proof that fracking is a good idea.
        There is a shopping mall in Rotterdam, NY, which, when built, generated a lot of opposition because it sits on an aquifer. Someone pointed out to me recently that you look up the steep embankment from the parking lot of that mall, and you see trains passing by. Would these trains be carrying that crude oil that is now generating controversy?

        • norecovery June 22, 2015 at 3:11 pm #

          The fracking racket is similar to the nuclear power one which declares “low level radiation exposure” to be harmless. Tell that to the burgeoning number of cancer victims, and to all the Pacific Ocean sea life that is dead or dying. Energy policy does not adjust well for industries’ deleterious effects on the environment or on people, any more than the financial biz can amend its infinite growth short-term profit goals. Not even catastrophes like Fukushima or The Great Recession can sway the power masters from their mindless pursuit of more which is never enough. They don’t see the precipice and will force us all over the cliff.

      • abbybwood June 22, 2015 at 1:47 pm #

        Yes, and now we have scores of DOCTORS and NURSES joining the criminal class by trying to make “something for nothing” on the back of Medicare:


        As a R.N. this is a major embarrassment to me. Now my profession has joined the ranks of all the other scammers in our society.

        It’s almost as if the rest of society, after witnessing the criminal bailout of the “Too Big to Fail” banks in 2008 are thinking, “I’ll have what THEY are having!”

        Only difference is these doctors and nurses (hopefully) will lose their licenses and go to jail!, not be rewarded with millions in bonuses.

        • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 4:34 pm #

          Kunstler has written some brilliant social commentary on The RACKETS Which Are Our New Normal. I dropped out (again).

      • pequiste June 23, 2015 at 8:20 am #

        n’oubliez pas: ammunition + means to employ it = money

  6. Cold N. Holefield June 22, 2015 at 9:23 am #

    Great post as always, Jim. I’ve missed out on your weekly missives the past several weeks. I’ve been in training as a Hate Crime investigator. It promises to be a popular job in the years to come as most crime, especially crime perpetrated by Whites, becomes Hate Crime. Oh, and I also had my pancreas removed which wasn’t pleasant but I’m back in tip-top shape now, thank you. Here’s my latest for anyone interested.

    #CharlestonShooting — Part 1

    • WannaBleave June 22, 2015 at 11:52 am #

      Maybe not a hate crime but definitely an act of Race-based Terrorism. It has been hilarious to watch Fox News and some of the GOP candidates attempt to make the cretin’s acts to be anything else. Hell, Perry called it an “accident” and Fox has been claiming it was an “anti-Christian” crime… Like the debt issues in the world, denial of the facts will not make them go away.

      • norecovery June 22, 2015 at 3:20 pm #

        I think the SC mass murder was also a class-war-based crime. What goes unnoticed, because racism is so much the focus of attention from the mass media, is that the perp was mad at blacks for “destroying our country” by stealing from the hard-working taxpayers, and especially against black women for having babies in order to collect welfare.

    • abbybwood June 22, 2015 at 1:59 pm #

      Interesting that you should mention “walking down the street killing ants”.

      As a kindergartner I used to walk home from school and just as an exercise in “something to do” I would look for the big, fat black ants marching about not bothering me in the least, and I would step on them.

      Then I noticed one I had not quite done in and he was wriggling about (writhing in pain?) and I knelt down and watched him.

      Then I picked him up and looked at him squirming in my hand and I studied him closely. Then he became still. And I was so overcome with the emotion of what I had done that I started crying. I sat on the sidewalk holding that ant for a long time, sobbing away.

      Then I dried my tears and walked on home being very careful to AVOID the ants as they marched here and there. I even started picking them up and looking at them. They never bit me or tried to hurt me. Looking for them and “holding” them became my new exercise for the walk home.

      That is my first conscious memory of crying over death. But it changed me in a profound way. Thanks for that reminder.

      • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 4:36 pm #


        Your transformative experience has made life valuable. Wish others could have what you now have.

      • CrusherMuldoon June 23, 2015 at 5:13 pm #

        Ants huh/ Once upon a time, I was burning ants with my magnifying glass. Suddenly, I heard a still small voice saying “One day you’ll be as dead as that ant is.” Kinda heavy for an eight year old.

        • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 7:01 pm #

          we are all One, just different

  7. George June 22, 2015 at 9:23 am #

    Despite demonstrations in Syntagma Square in support of staying in the EU, it’s likely that Greece is going to move towards removing itself from the EU and the clutches of the empire. If that happens, it will then fall into the Russian sphere of influence. Once this is clear, somebody in DC will likely order the ECB to release some additional funds. But there’s still a chance that Greece will exit the EU and if it does, there’s the possibility that it will be followed by Spain and Italy.

    Ever since the ascent of the Neoconservative Empire the obsession of those within its inner circle has been on power for power’s sake and elimination of all dissent. Theirs is not a popular empire and therefore it’s ultimately doomed. The empire’s demise may come about by popular revolt, climate change or a combination of both. We are presently experiencing a mass extinction of life on earth brought about by climate change. Curiously few have come to the realization that mankind depends on this same environment and also faces extinction. It’s becoming clear that fossil fuel usage is at least in part of the reason why we’re witness to this climate change.

    There is a simple truth. We must do whatever we can to mitigate climate change. But we can’t do that until the Neoconservative Empire is eliminated. We’ve no choice, if we don’t want to become extinct, we have to destroy the Neoconservative Empire.

    • shotho June 22, 2015 at 10:39 am #

      Where is this mass extinction of life happening? As far as I can tell, we’re rapidly choking ourselves to death on mass overpopulation.

      • George June 22, 2015 at 4:17 pm #

        Mass extinction is a matter of record. As the environment is further compromised by climate change it will become increasingly difficult to sustain agricultural production. Overpopulation, such as it is, will compound the impact.

        I can see no scenario in which the Neoconservative’s New World Order isn’t going to be brought down. It’s a matter of time. Like Rome, the end will probably come about as the result of political dissent from within its own ranks. Given the chaos and misery that’s been suffered upon millions since their ascent to power and their steadfast refusal to permit meaningful discussion of climate change (among many other things), I see it as our moral imperative to do whatever we can to bring down this Order. We are, as Arjuna and Krishna were, in the chariot in the field between two armies poised to do battle. Though we’re inclined to retreat to a renunciate life, we’re obliged to rise to our calling to serve the righteous.

    • lsjogren June 22, 2015 at 11:05 am #

      Seems to me you have a cult mentality just like the neocons do.

      • George June 22, 2015 at 4:19 pm #

        A cult mentality? Perhaps I should start one? I don’t see that as my calling but life is full of ironic twists and serendipitous blessings.

    • norecovery June 22, 2015 at 3:25 pm #

      There’s a good chance that the Empire will not tolerate Greece’s alignment with Russia and will instigate “regime change” just as they did in Ukraine (and so many other countries). We can be sure they already have sleeper cells (NGOs) in place for that purpose.

      • George June 22, 2015 at 4:15 pm #

        Indeed, there are sleeper cells in Greece and have been ever since the civil war in 1946-7. It’s likely that the pro-EU demonstrations in Syntagma were organized by sleeper cells or sleeper cells encouraged whoever did organize them. The last time Greece got out of line in 1967 a military junta stepped in to put an abrupt end to the party. So far this time it hasn’t gotten ugly but as history informs it probably will.

  8. Lawfish June 22, 2015 at 9:25 am #

    You and Charles Hugh Smith provided very complementary articles today, due undoubtedly to the recent brunch between the two of you mentioned in his article. The point is well-made: someone’s debt is another’s asset. When it becomes obvious that the debt can never be repaid, the asset is one on paper only. If we were to globally mark all those “assets” held in the form of government bonds to market, about $20 trillion or more would evaporate. But then, it was never real wealth in the first place.

  9. dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 9:26 am #


    This reopens our debate on the long-term viability of nyc. If you recall, I disagreed on several points that you raise again today, namely:

    “The financial class = the 1 percent who own 40-plus percent of the financialized economy”


    they DO NOT HOLD DEBT. Land, islands, gold…real assets. That’s what the Banks and Fed are for; the Debt Scheme. They’s blow up but no financier is holding that bag (of ___).

  10. djc June 22, 2015 at 9:30 am #

    No matter what the fundamentalist, isolate-yourself-in-a-cabin-with-four- years-of-dried-food people may say no one, absolutely no one, will remain unscathed in the coming meltdown, whenever it occurs.

    Will Greece be the straw that breaks the camels back? No one can be sure. However the one thing we can be sure of is in the long run the camel’s back will surely snap.

    Get out of debt, try to get in shape-both physically and mentally and find a community that you can be a part of.

    This was a fine column today JHK.


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    • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 4:42 pm #


      Some will do better than others. It’s The Way of The World.

      P.S. I came to Kunstler to get a preview of future challenges. He’s done a great job of laying out the fundamentals. I took what I could use (isn’t that the way?).

      But we’re miles apart on escaping nyc for the woods, or staying. I’ve set up in nyc and another more-fortress-like-place that costs tons to enter and is populated with the uber-wealthy, that has lots of armed men, with all kinds of medicines stocked.

  11. AKlein June 22, 2015 at 9:30 am #

    A major paradigm shift will need to occur. Why? Because we have apparently reached the limits to growth. That’s why the “system” no longer works. JHK has written about this many, many times. So what might that major paradigm shift look like, you ask? Well, how about a “system” where investment is made, but not for growth, but for sustainability. In such a system, there are no profits. There is no concept of “interest”. This is what is meant by a system where you do not get something for nothing. A system where delaying one’s consumption merely (dare I write merely) enables sustainability, not profit. That’s where we’re headed, folks. Whether we like it or not. Don’t like it? OK, good news, there is an alternative. War. Smash everything in a giant potlatch so we can start the cycle all over again. We can all participate in a giant lottery to see if we make get to participate in the next cycle.

    • FincaInTheMountains June 22, 2015 at 10:09 am #

      “Because we have apparently reached the limits to growth”

      No we didn’t. But may be the limits of financial chicanery.

      • AKlein June 22, 2015 at 11:42 am #

        OK, how about this; We’ve reached the limits to growth as we currently define it. That means we have reached “peak strip malls” and “peak automobiles” and “peak tract housing” and “peak fast food”, etc, etc ,etc.

        • DrTomSchmidt June 22, 2015 at 1:30 pm #

          I can go for that.

          • Beryl of Oyl June 22, 2015 at 1:40 pm #

            I probably said this here before, but new cars for people who can’t afford them is the new financial racket. “No credit? No problem!” used to be the province of shady used-car dealers, now it’s the new car dealerships.
            Go down a street of old buildings divided up into cheesy little apartments, in any city, and you’ll find the street cluttered with late-model gas-guzzling SUV’s.

          • swmnguy June 22, 2015 at 4:08 pm #

            “Beryl,” I’m starting to see crapped-out SUV’s with broken rear-view mirrors and unrepaired body damage in the poor neighborhoods these days. It used to be big old American-made 4-door sedans, but the SUV has replaced that type of car for the most part.

        • norecovery June 22, 2015 at 3:34 pm #

          What we have not reached, which thwarts most efforts to transform society and the economy, is peak deprivation where everyone recognizes that they must forego their materialistic dreams.

          • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 4:44 pm #

            The Rackers (ref Kunstler) are still going strong. I see broke guys with BMW suv, that can’t afford the gas.

            Wow’re doin’?

      • Frankiti June 23, 2015 at 5:20 pm #

        No, clearly “they” didn’t. Because you fools fail to see the elephant in the room, the obvious reality that exists… the rules you refer to have been changed, rewritten. The state(s) control the rules, who survives, who doesn’t, who is TBTF who is the martyr. The silly dated economic rules that you use to predict failure are wrong, because CLEARLY they no longer exist. Get over it… no, please don’t… please keep predicting the end… like the website says, on a long enough timeline (y’all need a long one).

  12. FincaInTheMountains June 22, 2015 at 9:32 am #

    All that is a small stuff compared with what the IMF has done over the last week in Greece. Okay, that IMF delegation just removed itself from the negotiations, but it also torpedoed quite workable plan to save Greece that satisfies bothTsirpas and Juncker:

    Under the proposal, the head of the European Commission has allegedly made Greek Prime Minister Alexis Tsipras an offer to postpone the reduction in retirement benefits if the slash military spending by the same amount – 400 million euros.

    1. The German media writes that the IMF has torpedoed a deal on Greece
    2. The EU has not commented
    3. IMF denies

    Nobody could give a guarantee, but in this configuration, there is a reasonable suspicion that the IMF is lying, and the EU is afraid to lie for the company for fear of being caught by the hand.

    Why the IMF is engaged in sabotaging the rescue of Greece? Look back. Every time the EU had serious problems, capital greased skis and rolled across the Atlantic to buy US Treasury bonds, which all of a sudden acquire the aura of “very reliable asset”. The limited in scope default of Greece is a gift to the United States. Of course, the situation could easily get out of control, but for the American strategy of controlled chaos is the main modus operandi in the international arena. The only thing that can save Greece today is that if radicals in Washington really get scared of unlikely (but terrible for Americans) scenario in which the Greek economic crash leads to its exit from NATO, followed by Russian Iskanders in Corfu in exchange for humanitarian aid. That scary movie scenario is actively sold by Financial Times.


  13. Being There June 22, 2015 at 9:33 am #

    When Milton Friedman told Nixon to go off the gold standard this process started in earnest.

    The fact is the Europeans have walked in lock-step with the Neoliberal ideology and now are about to smash the public infrastructure of Greece while your friend Max Keiser describes most accurately that people like Steve Forbes are running to Greece to secure Greek Islands for elite friends for pennies on the dollar.

    The system is insidious and few people understand that it’s all a form of theft.
    Through the fog of war, one can steal. Through the fog of economic war the same is true.

    We came up with a financial system that at the root of it is installing a gangsta system with the facade of international rule of law.

    A few years ago when Dylan Ratigan was on MSNBC he asked whether the debts would be pardoned or will we have to go through another world war with millions killed instead.

    If you want to know what I think….we’re about to hit a wall and wouldn’t we just love to blame our favorite scapegoat, Russia for our sins?

    • malthuss June 22, 2015 at 10:58 am #

      Was The Acropolis sold? And if so, to whom?
      The economy is not the only problem Greece faces.

      • Being There June 22, 2015 at 11:35 am #

        Be patient, I’m sure it will eventually be arranged…..
        It’s a war by other means.

        • malthuss June 22, 2015 at 12:16 pm #

          It’s a war by other means./
          JHK could not have said it better

    • BC_EE June 22, 2015 at 1:18 pm #

      Read “Confessions of An Economic Hit Man”, John Perkins. Brings one back to history repeating more in a structured rhyme than free verse.

      • Being There June 23, 2015 at 8:36 am #

        I got that quote from Michael Hudson. I think it’s true so I repeat it.

    • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 4:45 pm #

      Have some gold in your pants. Feels better.

  14. peakfuture June 22, 2015 at 9:48 am #

    Part of me feels that Jim (as well as the rest of us) are preaching to the choir here. Will this message ever go mainstream? Methinks only when the ATMs close and the shelves are bare will anyone take heed. The ‘when’ has always been the big question, which seems to be AnytimeRealSoonNow (and which might be the reason everyone else ignores our collective pleadings and warnings).

    Has anyone had any success in bringing this message to the rest of your friends, colleagues, and loved ones?

    Dannyboy – it would be interesting to hear more about your thoughts on the long term viability of NYC. NYC does have great access to water, but power is iffy. Things are incredibly complex there, and a hiccup might doom Manhattan. What that looks like is anyone’s guess.

    • ozone June 22, 2015 at 10:00 am #

      “Has anyone had any success in bringing this message to the rest of your friends, colleagues, and loved ones?”

      Not a real lot, no. Seems to me that most are more interested in living on Fantasy Island until it should sink below the waves like some Atlantean giant screen teevee. …And I believe that most are ‘aware’ of the state we’re in, if only subliminally, but are very frightened of the kingly lifestyle ending. (Sort of that, “If I close my eyes tightly enough, the Bad Thing will go away!”)

      • ozone June 22, 2015 at 10:05 am #

        “De Plane, Bosth, De Plane!”
        Think that plane will be carrying any regular ‘folks’ these days? Perhaps some bankrupt Grecians, bearing urns?

      • Beryl of Oyl June 22, 2015 at 12:42 pm #

        My experience is that in trying to piece the whole story together, one inevitable treads on someone else’s cherished dogma, if that’s the right thing to call it. It makes them really mad. I think that’s the whole idea.
        For instance, in the discussion about rent law extensions in NYC, I almost never see it mentioned that the occupants of all this rent-controlled housing are mostly immigrants. Anecdotally, this appears to be the case, but it is not to be spoken out loud, because then you are racist or xenophobic and end up having to defend that.
        I know a number of younger Americans who moved to Brooklyn to enjoy the hipster lifestyle, and they have to live three and four to one lousy apartment. Do we really need to worry about whether a chosen few get to live in Manhattan relatively cheaply? How can anyone make an intelligent, informed decision on issues that affect them, if they don’t know what they’re talking about?

        • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 5:48 pm #

          Is it really possible that I am reading a Post that cites THE FACT that “the occupants of all this NYC rent-controlled housing are mostly immigrants. Anecdotally, this appears to be the case, but it is not to be spoken out loud, because then you are racist or xenophobic and end up having to defend that.”

          Listen, I know this is the Internet, and that anyone can post any ol’ bullshit they feel like, but this tops even the biggest bullshit.

          How is it that immigrants come to occupy these rent-regulated apartments in NYC? I kinda’ don’t see it. I kinda’ live in nyc.

          THE Rent regulated apartments were built pre-world War ll.

          Those ‘immigrants have been here for a couple of generations.

          Is everything about immigrants and race??????

          • Beryl of Oyl June 29, 2015 at 11:39 am #

            Did I say “fact”? I don’t think I did. This is what I’m talking about – you’re doing it.
            Certain things cannot be said out loud (or in this case written about) so reasonable discussion is out of the question.

    • lsjogren June 22, 2015 at 11:07 am #

      “Has anyone had any success in bringing this message to the rest of your friends, colleagues, and loved ones?”

      I live in a deep blue state and virtually all my friends and family worship the edifice of hoaxes known as “progressivism”.

      • Being There June 22, 2015 at 11:38 am #

        I live in Manhattan and everyone I talk to regardless of age knows this is a disaster. They get it.
        Doesn’t mean they think they will lose everything and that they don’t want to hold on to what they’ve got, but they do know that we’re going over a cliff.

        What they are planning to do about it is anyone’s guess.
        When you’re caught up with trying to keep up with your run-away expenses—it’s pretty hard to figure out your next move.

        • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 5:51 pm #

          Manhattan residents who are caught up with trying to keep up with their run-away expenses outta’ consider their life and change it.

          But who am I to say?

    • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 4:48 pm #

      The debate that I have with Kunstler pivots on Control. NYC controls the world. So what if we don’t have resources, we can steal them.

      For some reason, most people choose to ignore the plain fact that The Wealthy and Powerful, who walk among us, have the power of the US Government to do their bidding.

      Wish I had that deal.

  15. Greg Knepp June 22, 2015 at 9:57 am #

    Today’s entry is as succinct a summation of the nature of the world-wide economic dilemma as I have read – really quite good!

    For those who enjoy this type of terse writing, I’d like to suggest the work of Tom Lewis on dailyimpact.net. Lewis is a smart cookie and, like JHK, knows how to navigate the English language

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    • Beryl of Oyl June 22, 2015 at 1:48 pm #

      I just checked it out, and will read it. Thanks for the tip.

  16. pequiste June 22, 2015 at 9:58 am #

    Jim’s most pungent prose is reserved for his descriptors of the former middle and lumpenprole classes:

    “… hopeless moiling underclass of tattooed savages dressed in baby clothes devoting their leisure hours (i.e. all their time) to drug-seeking and the erasure of sexual boundaries.”

    I am well reminded of Gregor Samsa, the antihero of Kafka’s Metamorphosis.

    But ours, it seems, is almost an entire civilization transformed into a cockroach infested one.

    Some of the biggest filthiest roaches drive Rolls Royces and ply the Caribbean with 50 meter Feadships; those insects who hijacked the economic and financial system.

    Greece turns out to be a mosquito on the body of the Euro system. It will be, one way or the other , given a swat and a spray treatment. The Turks are loving it.

    The rest of us bugs will be handled by Orkin or some other multinational corp given the task to “delouse” the place.

    But watch out — nothing could be worse than a case of mistaken identity: when the little bugs turn out to be hornets.

    • lsjogren June 22, 2015 at 11:09 am #

      No way are the greeks hornets.

      • SteveO June 22, 2015 at 11:24 am #

        I put them more akin to a deer tic – they are sucking a tiny amount of blood (Euros) and giving the host (the EU) Lyme’s disease in the process.

        • Being There June 22, 2015 at 11:42 am #

          Please remember that it was Goldman Sachs who acted at consultant for getting Greece into the EU. They told them how to hide their deficits, yet they are in no trouble at all and are poised to take our SS trust.

          I saw a picture of Hillary sitting next to Little Lord Blankfein at a pricey dinner (no doubt a fundraiser for guess who) And what do you think she’ll do in return?

          • Beryl of Oyl June 22, 2015 at 1:26 pm #

            Goldman Sachs keeps popping up all over the place.
            Ted Cruz’ wife stepped down or something from her job at Goldman Sachs when he announced his candidacy for the presidency.
            So many in the mainstream media have close ties to that company as well.
            This is probably why we see so much Bruce Jenner type ‘news’, to distract us and also to see how gullible we are.

          • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 4:53 pm #

            Goldman moved their Headquarters directly across the street from our Bank. Not only did they block our view of The Hudson, but their occupancy resulted in the doubling of nearby restaurant prices.

            My only outlet was to steal the dry cleaning being delivered to their Concierge. I have quite a wardrobe.

      • ejhr June 23, 2015 at 6:49 am #

        “Beware of Greeks bearing gifts”
        I think the Troika are seeing that come true.
        I certainly hope so.

      • ejhr June 23, 2015 at 6:51 am #

        “Beware of Greeks bearing gifts’

        [Lets see if this reply gets in the place it is aimed at!

  17. seawolf77 June 22, 2015 at 10:01 am #

    Precious metal holders are financial terrorists. We are against our nation’s currency, and by extension against our nation’s way of life. Simply put capitalism did not carry us here, cheap oil did. The cheap oil is now gone. What comes next is anyone’s guess, but IMHO what is coming is a complete reset. The military industrial complex, which is the beast of the apocalypse, will be overturned in the most curious way. The soldiers will refuse to fight. This is the race to robotize. The elite need machines to fight when ordinary men wake up, just like they need machines to work.

  18. ozone June 22, 2015 at 10:19 am #

    JHK sez:

    “Nobody knows what will happen next in the struggle to wring some kind of debt repayment promises out of poor Greece. Without “restructuring” — a virtual national bankruptcy proceeding — there can be no plausible promises of repayment. Both sides seem to have exhausted their abilities to juke their way out. The European Union and its wing-men at the European Central Bank (ECB) and the International Monetary Fund (IMF) can only pretend to kick that fabled can down the road because it has turned into a cement-filled 50-gallon drum.”

    Boy, does that get right down to the crux of the matter (and perhaps the first of the tottering dominoes)!

    (I’m loving the proverbial ‘can’ morphing into the cement-filled 50-gallon drum. Good one, as well as entirely apt.)

    • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 4:55 pm #

      Greece to the ECB and IMF:

      “fuck you”

      • ozone June 22, 2015 at 7:41 pm #

        Yep, that *should* be their next rejoinder… but we shall see what kind of bribery/extortion commences to keep the chains intact.

        • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 8:04 pm #

          the current government will pronounce their fuck you correctly.

          after getting the blame for the mess that they wanted to clean up, discredited and sent packing, then the bribes will commence.

          ah history!

          • ozone June 22, 2015 at 8:43 pm #

            I’m a’feared that’s an all-too-accurate prognostication of the next short chain of events!

  19. FincaInTheMountains June 22, 2015 at 10:23 am #

    Another aspect of aforementioned IMF battles: if the IMF finally caved in under the Washington radicals, it is guaranteed to reject China’s request for inclusion of the yuan in the list of reserve currencies – the IMF SDR basket.

    In January 2015 Lagarde called to give a greater role for China in the IMF, but if she could be pressed to give up IMF’s claims on Ukraine and sabotage Greece settlement, she really will be pressed on China even harder.

    For China, the failure of the yuan inclusion would be a clear sign that “reform of the system from within” will fail. The system will have to be eliminated from outside.

    • Being There June 22, 2015 at 11:47 am #

      The Battle of the BRICs?

      Could it be that if China is kept out of this she’ll turn to the up-and-coming counterparts in the emerging markets bunch and start her own challengers to the IMF and World Bank.

      Get ready to rumble, cuz of course you know the unipolar power doesn’t want competition, but it sure is interesting that it won’t be Communism(a loser system), but one that can play the same game, perhaps better.

      • orbit7er June 25, 2015 at 10:24 am #

        Russia and China have already started their own counterparts to the IMF which Larry Summers warned could be the beginning of the end of the US financial monopoly. Especially since the new
        institution has enticed EU mainstays like France and German to ask to join it! Also Russia is assembling its own SWIFT system for encrypted interbanking transfers again totally independent of the US/EU banksters and the NSA…
        Russia has already made a deal for a pipeline with Greece…
        More aid will probably be forthcoming for Greece if they continue to get stampeded into Austerity by the European banksters.
        No surprise but at the same time Greece is supposed to cut profligate spending, NATO’s militarists have warned it must not cut its military!
        The endless Wars, Auto Addiction and financial legerdemain are the main goal…

  20. shotho June 22, 2015 at 10:33 am #

    The genius of Mr. K is being able to reconcile the socio-political with the financial and economic. He doesn’t peer to closely into the soul, but he doen’t need to. He knows that therein lurks the twin monsters of greed and fear that will always doom any system that man cares to erect. Are we alone in all of this swirling decay; the final and only important question? Yes, we will soon restructure, but what will the new “structure” look like.

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    • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 4:56 pm #

      Mr K for El Presidente!

  21. malthuss June 22, 2015 at 10:56 am #

    This is a continuation from last weeks topic.
    Buck, Back row heckler, Janos,

    Leave it to BRH to ignore the far more pernicious effects of GOP/Right wing economic policy on middle class America and instead grope for the ‘transvestite/lefty’ cause. [IS THAT PUN INTENDED—GROPE THE TRANNY]/

    BackRowHeckler / Economic stratification? How about bringing in 70 million 3rd world immigrants in a half century, competing for jobs with native born Americans? do you think that caused any ‘economic stratification?
    70 million? More like 150 million. USA population in 1960 was 190 million? Now is 340 million? Not official numbers, real numbers./

    Did you feel such passion when that Black murdered the Greek American family?
    There was torture involved as well. The killer of 9 at church didn’t torture

  22. FincaInTheMountains June 22, 2015 at 11:01 am #

    Some amazing news from St. Petersburg economical forum

    This, of course, is the possibility of building “North Stream-2”, i.e. the third and fourth lines of the gas pipeline from Russia to Germany with total capacity of 55 billion cubic meters more. This unexpected memorandum was signed by “Gazprom”, Austrian OMV, German EON and Shell. It is unexpected because the current “North Stream” is underutilized due to lack of permission for a 100% of already existing capacity.

    Is Germany planning to be the main reseller of Russian gas to the rest of Europe?

  23. capt spaulding June 22, 2015 at 11:03 am #

    Before this is done, we’re all going to be like the Greeks, in terms of taking it up the butt. Look for the 1% to do just fine, thank you very much.

    • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 4:57 pm #

      which “we” is that?

  24. Frankiti June 22, 2015 at 11:05 am #

    “You see it in the amazing decrepitude of the built environment — the cities and towns left for dead, the struggling suburban strip malls tenanted if at all by wig shops and check-cashing operations, the rusted bridges, pot-holed highways, the Third World style train service. Most sickeningly you see it in a population of formerly earnest, hard-working, basically-educated people with hopes and dreams transformed into a hopeless moiling underclass of tattooed savages dressed in baby clothes devoting their leisure hours (i.e. all their time) to drug-seeking and…”

    You see and feel the decline everywhere… taking an AA plane from Seoul, one of the most modern and clean cities in the world, to the US further demonstrates the rot. A cramped and rickety 20 year old plane with entertainment fed by a loop-in-progress system where the food boxes were thrown at you by stewards too wide to pass unencumbered through the aisles brought it all home. An apparent immigrant commenting in heavily accented English in an elevator at JFK on just how truly embarrassing the dilapitated airport is. The desirable and maintained places in this country are fast becoming playgrounds for the super rich. Cities with (mostly) maintained amenities such as NY, SF, Chicago and portions of Washington (and NoVa) are no longer accesible to the middle classes. The tattooed childish clothed savages addicted to masturbation on all levels are just indicative of the free-fall to the lowest common denominator brought by multiculturalism and the dogmatic indoctrination of tolerance and acceptance of everything and anything. People may be equal, but some cultures are definitely better than others despite the PC protests to the contrary.

    • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 4:59 pm #

      try the train from NYC Penn Station to DC Penn Station

  25. malthuss June 22, 2015 at 11:07 am #

    ‘You see it in the amazing decrepitude of the built environment — the cities and towns left for dead,’

    And contrast this with the revelers in Times Square and Hollywood.
    I was in Hollywood recently.
    The crowds were H_U_G_E.
    Yet Hollywood Boulevard is a run down street. Like Times square before her face lift.
    I walked a side street where the sidewalk was so damaged by roots from trees I walked in the street rather than on the sidewalk.

    America is broke? Tell that to the partiers in Vegas.
    12? years ago JHK wrote that with Peak All [or Peak Oil] ‘In Vegas the excitement will be over’.
    Not yet.

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    • 99 cent nation June 22, 2015 at 11:24 am #

      The real partiers are on Wall Street the real gambling dens. All fixed and just like Vegas the house always wins.

      • Being There June 22, 2015 at 11:54 am #

        Reality will win, since people from around the world that visit the late great superpower, will see the roots coming out of the streets.

        Even the elites are crying that their airports look like a third world leftover from the “Langoliers”, but at some point they have to give up the ghost as in taxes are just for the little people, if they don’t want the world to see how bad our economy is.

        You can fool yourself, only so long and then it has to be clear that the US elite are interested in empire only and that the nation state will go to seed.

        It’s not the greatest way to survive, but clearly they can’t spin their way out of it.

    • Frankiti June 22, 2015 at 11:25 am #

      Hollywood is an embarrassment that exposes the carefully crafted façade by the motion picture industry. Taking both American and foreign visitors there on occasion allowed me the gratification of having exposed the conceit for what it truly is. They always thought there was more… but no, it’s just a depressing strip of road haunted by depressing people in a an awful city “it looks so much nicer in the movies”. Yes, doesn’t it all.

      Vegas owners are now betting on Macau and the far east, although they are still making some money on the tattooed savages dressed in baby clothes who still think visiting a town with fake Eifel towers and pirate ships where illegal immigrants hand out endless flyers advertising strip clubs is a ride on the wild side…

    • seawolf77 June 22, 2015 at 12:07 pm #

      Lake Mead might very well spell the end of Phoenix and Las Vegas. You look at the pictures and you think yeah it’s down 150 ft to 1,000 ft but what people don’t realize is that it is a martini glass. All the volume is up at the top. Once it crosses a certain depth the V takes over. I have heard it is more than 50% depleted. Half of the water is gone and there is no rain.

      • malthuss June 22, 2015 at 12:19 pm #

        What about Drought in USA- west of Mississippi?

        • seawolf77 June 23, 2015 at 12:04 pm #

          Supplying the southwest with water if Lake Mead dried up would be like supplying the 6th army at Stalingrad from the air. Logistically impossible.

      • Lawfish June 24, 2015 at 8:22 am #

        Yesterday, Lake Mead hit 1074.99 feet, which breached the 1075 foot mark at which allocations to states change. Unless it comes back above that level by January, Arizona and Nevada will see a vast reduction in the amount of water they get from the lake. At 1081 feet, the lake was 37% full, so I’m guessing something like 33% now. The last time it was this low was in the 1930’s when it was being filled.

        At 1050 feet, the cost of producing electricity will double. At 1025 feet, it quadruples. At 895 feet, the dam will no longer produce electricity. https://www.hcn.org/articles/as-reservoirs-fall-hydropower-at-risk

        If I lived in one of those western states, I’d be selling my property to the first buyer and getting the hell out of Dodge.

        • benr June 26, 2015 at 3:21 pm #

          Except this coming winter its going to rain like hell.

  26. K-Dog June 22, 2015 at 11:19 am #

    Cement-filled 50-gallon drums filling in for tin cans which may or may not fly off the road unpredictably on the next kick. Not a good substitute; our host always predicts the end. Yet the world like a drunk sailor always seems to enjoy another drink at closing time and stumble along.

    The problem is ‘man the clever‘ always seems to find another way to patch the leaky inner tube of accepted practice and remain stuck in the mire of denial and conservative impotent status-quo action. If accepted practice won’t fix a problem that is irrelevant for maintaining accepted practice is taken to be far more important than actually solving problems. Form trumps function. Which in the case of Donald Trump is literally true.

    So the foot comes down and the can bounces down the road yet again. We don’t know when it will fly off onto the grass; but our host is wrong in thinking it won’t move this time and that toes will be broken. The world will return to rationality on it’s own timetable not Jim Kunstler’s.

    At some point the can must fly off the road and then it will certainly be game over. This will happen when it happens, but it won’t happen before Greece has to bend over and take all the pain the EU wants to thrust into it.

    • BC_EE June 22, 2015 at 1:26 pm #

      Extending the metaphor further, (and one should be careful as they have the tendency towards unintended consequences); when they can no longer kick the 50-gallon cement filled can down the road is push it over and watch is steamroll over whomever is misfortunate enough to be in the path.

      Let’s call this “can” CDO’s.

      • K-Dog June 22, 2015 at 4:36 pm #

        When people lose their job sometimes they say they have been ‘canned’. This is one metaphor that just keeps ‘rolling’ along. Being hit by a cement filled 55 gallon drum would be some serious shit-canning.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 22, 2015 at 2:12 pm #

      Did you per chance bookmark the post where you unmasked Asoka? A friend of mine was fascinated by this and the subsequent denouement. As he says, you don’t get to see such things very often.

      • K-Dog June 22, 2015 at 4:29 pm #

        You are kidding right? That bookmark became a dead end long ago. As did several others like the one to the comment Wage Laborer made where she expained why she was leaving this forum forever. Remember that one? She explained that she was confronted in a shopping mall by Dave of the men in black suits. I found her claim hard to believe and she was pissed at me. My bad, because karma sure had a surprise for me. It was not long after her comment that I met my own ‘Dave’ of the black suits. He confronted me at Planet Fitness and I had been under survillence for several months.

        Sure enough she was right. Dave is the name they were using. My Dave went by David L. Riches.

        Isn’t that rich, ha ha.

        • BothEyes June 23, 2015 at 3:57 am #

          So, what did DLR have to say to you?

          • K-Dog June 23, 2015 at 4:32 pm #

            The first thing he did was lean over in my direction and say: I’d like to put a bullet through Obama’s head. What do you think about that? He was pretending to own a web based buisness and never came clean about who he really was. Not that that matters; he spilled the beans talking about Clusterfuck Nation, which had he been real there would have been no way for him to know I was the dog. I did not tap his lapel and say testing testing into the microphone. Instead I said: “I think that would be going a bit too far.”

            He said that Americans were being programmed to hate Moslems and at one point he said:

            “What’s the matter with you Keith, are you naive? Something is going to happen at the Boston Marathon. Wait and see, about four people will be killed.”

            When I said that wasn’t right he said four people wasn’t any big deal.

            He told me I should get a job preferably in private business and that that they had plans for me. That I should be minding my own business, working, and that when the time was right I’d be rewarded. He said what do you need, money?

            I blew that question off but if I could have the experience over again I’d ask for two hundred K though I know I was just being played.

            More than the money though what I’d really like to do is see Dave walking down the street and cold cock the motherfucker in the face.

            I downloaded his website which turned out to be all pictures, even the text. At the time I did not know it but I also downloaded a virus which was later to bang the security gong behind a City of Seattle firewall. It was a phone home virus no doubt meant to identify everyone I passed it to.

          • K-Dog June 23, 2015 at 9:38 pm #

            He also told me “You need to pay your taxes” when I was puzzled and asked him what he was talking about he said you owe 12 K. I did not understand.

            A few months later the IRS started to go after me. Turns out a 401 K retirement account I had ben set up with incorrect paperwork. It was all because of a bank error and once it was pointed out to me I had the bank fix their paperwork by way of a letter of intent. Now everything is Okey-Dokey. The amount the IRS had said I owed before the error was fixed was 12K.

            Black suits and china white shirts. No tie. I wonder if they still have the same dress code. Probably so; I’m only talking about a couple of years.

    • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 5:01 pm #

      I like Greece. They’re playing along and singing their song. When that ends, they get to say “fuck you”. My favorite part.

  27. Therian June 22, 2015 at 11:38 am #

    Interesting weekly post, Jim. I think you’re absolutely correct that the markets around the world will likely have a bond market debacle of epic proportions as time rolls on. It’s just amazing to me that you have to go out ten years to get two percent interest from a country like the US where the total public debt is heading toward a quadrillion dollars if you count the trust fund deficits. What in hell IS a quadrillion anyhow? I mean … I know what it is but who ever used the term outside of astrophysicists? When we were young, the term “trillion” seldom appeared when discussing budgets of any country.

    A lot of countries whose public debt is going hyperbolic pay their bondholders a pittance. One wonders about the fate of pension funds given that half of their portfolios are typical bonds. How long can we afford to have the Fed buy up 70% of the float at Treasury auctions? The answer is: Substantially shorter than forever.

    • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 5:57 pm #

      the bonds guaranteeing the pension obligations are busted.

      got it?

  28. FincaInTheMountains June 22, 2015 at 12:26 pm #

    “The Battle of the BRICs?

    Could it be that if China is kept out of this she’ll turn to the up-and-coming counterparts in the emerging markets bunch and start her own challengers to the IMF and World Bank.” — BT

    The BRICs and China already did – they have already set up and funded couple of alternative institution and their own SWIFT system.

    Of course it is better for everybody to use the existing structures – the IMF and World Bank – just with more representative voting rights. In that case the transition could go smoothly for everybody, including United States, without wars or Depression.

    It’s pretty much up to US voters now – if they’re going to put Hillary in the White House, than the showdown will follow with uncertain outcomes, if Jeb then the compromise is still possible. US will lose the dominant world position, but its economy will get a soft landing and ability to rebuild.

    • Being There June 22, 2015 at 2:55 pm #

      How about Bernie—oh and by the way, why would Jeb be any better than Hill about this?
      They’re all part of the BCCI bunch and the Neoliberal/Neoconserv. group I have no idea why you think either one of them will do anything differently.
      The way I see it, The Dems (prob H) will win cuz the Reps have 2 branches of govt and the ship’s gonna hit the ole iceberg.
      I doubt the Reps want to go out of business when it does.
      There’s always the Dems to blame for the final crash.

      • FincaInTheMountains June 22, 2015 at 5:42 pm #

        It is not about Dems vs Reps anymore, it is about the vision of future of the United States in a new geopolitical reality: try to maintain the empire and dominant position at all costs (and that includes the cost the American working class will pay), or assume shared areas of responsibility with BRICS, abandon the “free trade” policy and start returning the industries back to US (that would imply protectionism with high import tariffs).

        In simple terms – the “war party” (Clintons, Rockefellers) vs the “peace party” (Bushes)

  29. Q. Shtik June 22, 2015 at 12:37 pm #

    and giving the host (the EU) Lyme’s disease in the process. – SteveO


    Speaking of which……….. on or about the 10th of June I came down with what very much looks like Lyme Disease…….. very unpleasant! I’m taking a certain anti-biotic and it seems to be working. I won’t know if I ACTUALLY have/had Lyme Disease until around mid-July when I go for a blood test. The Doc says a person should wait for one month from the onset of the disease to get a blood test since getting the test earlier risks getting a false reading.

    Among numerous symptoms that fit me to a T I had the big red rash although it was not of the classic target configuration.

    By the way Steve, not to be pedantic (OK, I WILL be pedantic) and at great risk of having my ass banned, the disease is Lyme, not Lyme’s. It is not possessive.

    • BothEyes June 23, 2015 at 4:03 am #

      How does one come down with Lyme disease?

      More specifically, how did you come down with it if indeed you did?

      I am aware only of ticks as a source.

  30. aka_ces June 22, 2015 at 12:55 pm #

    Always notable, JHK today in finest form.

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  31. johnc June 22, 2015 at 12:57 pm #

    There is another published author who shall remain unnamed who has a story about being in NYC in the winter to meet with his publisher and went for an early morning run and saw a can in the road and decided to kick it. The can was frozen solid and ended up breaking his toe and had a difficult time getting back to his hotel without freezing. Pope Francis issued an encyclical on the environment which contained criticisms of our financial system. This passage was particularly relevant to todays post and may have been made in reference to Greece: “Politics must not be subject to the economy, nor should the economy be subject to the dictates of an efficiency-driven paradigm of technocracy. Today, in view of the common good, there is urgent need for politics and economics to enter into a frank dialogue in the service of life, especially human life. Saving banks at any cost, making the public pay the price, foregoing a firm commitment to reviewing and reforming the entire system, only reaffirms the absolute power of a financial system, a power which has no future and will only give rise to new crises after a slow, costly and only apparent recovery.”

    • wayfarer June 22, 2015 at 1:20 pm #

      I agree. Another who has been speaking out for decades is John McMurtry, FRSC is University Professor Emeritus of Philosophy at the University of Guelph, Canada”, One of his books is: ‘The Cancer Stage of Capitalism’.

      • johnc June 22, 2015 at 1:53 pm #

        The Guardian said Pope Francis was like Naomi Klein in a cossack

      • johnc June 22, 2015 at 2:10 pm #

        Pope Francis is a bit like Naomi Klein in a cassock


        • Janos Skorenzy June 22, 2015 at 2:18 pm #

          He’s a freak, a Cossock in a Cassock; an priestly Dr Do Little who has betrayed his faith and civilization.


          • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 6:00 pm #


            He’s the Pope.

            And you are?

          • Frankiti June 22, 2015 at 6:26 pm #

            Catholicism and its offshoots of christianity are betrayals of western civilization… as are all middle eastern religions.
            Western civilization was once predicated on thought, logic and rationality not just “belief”. Western civ’s decline is rooted in the embrace of middle eastern belief structures.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 22, 2015 at 10:32 pm #

            Remember what Mencius said, “The Will of Heaven is not immutable.” A Pope can be a heretic if he ceases to believe or represent the Faith. And in this case it’s far simpler since Bergoglio has been an Apostate all along apparently. The Council elected an Anti-Pope.

            So in other word Danny – No, he’s not the Pope anymore than you are.

          • johnc June 23, 2015 at 3:26 am #

            Radical from a religious perspective as well as financial he ties the degradation of the earth to a decline in society. ‘The social dimensions of global change include the effects of technological innovations on employment, social exclusion, an inequitable distribution and consumption of energy and other services, social breakdown, increased violence and a rise in new forms of social aggression, drug trafficking, growing drug use by young people, and the loss of identity. These are signs that the growth of the past two centuries has not always led to an integral development and an improvement in the quality of life. Some of these signs are also symptomatic of real social decline, the silent rupture of the bonds of integration and social cohesion.’

          • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 6:33 am #

            “So in other word Danny – No, he’s not the Pope anymore than you are.”

            Janos, I have no reason to bring the Pope’s level down.
            You, on the other hand, wish ONLY to denigrate everyone that represents anything.

            Kinda’ like you represent hate.

  32. Beryl of Oyl June 22, 2015 at 1:03 pm #

    There was just an article in the newspaper about a former city official who walked away from a mortgage. The city official is the same person who, when people grieved their taxes, would argue for the city that the people’s property was worth the high assessed value. The reason this high-paid individual gave for abandoning the house is because the place was ‘under water’, when, as near as I can tell, the assessment matched the purchase price.
    Nobody seems too outraged over it.
    Meanwhile, in the same city, a woman was just kicked out of her home, which she purchased well after the big mortgage debacle, and which she could not afford in her wildest dreams. Someone saw her coming. The house has subsequently been sold at a price that would have been well within her means.

  33. wayfarer June 22, 2015 at 1:13 pm #

    I don’t know much about Europe, I have never lived there but the biggest problem in the U.S. is the ever increasing inequality, of which financial inequality is by far the most important (well that and the fact that we tend to elect people who crave power and are therefore totally unsuited for it) With financial equality societal groups can buy all of the other equality’s including justice. The effects of the destruction of the ‘Great American Middle Class’ are coming to roost.

    It is not surprising to me that we are seeing more and more riots and police shootings. It is wrong but it is human nature to strike back. A nature that we must work to overcome even as we must learn to not take more than we need.

    I believe capitalism, especially as now practiced, has failed. It glories in the right of the most capable to take all they can even as it ignores the most important of ethical and moral principles. Since we seem to be run by people who worship this capitalism I don’t see much hope in avoiding much worse.

    Sadly, most from all walks of life and ability don’t seem to be able to discipline themselves for the good of all. I suspect it will take nearly universal blood, pain, and suffering to steer our specie toward a better understanding of what matters. To find a better way forward.

    I think a dieback in homo sapiens is more likely than ever. Until it is widely understood that happiness does not come from possessions or power we will continue our lemming like march toward the cliff.

    • Frankiti June 22, 2015 at 2:03 pm #

      Nature/the universe has been trying her damnedest to shake off the sapien cancer. Looks like humans will create their undoing, perhaps the next step in evolution, of their own making, an AI that realizes that humans are best relegated away from the Earth’s rudder. Humanity has been slowly escaping the shrouds of ignorance of religion, lack of knowledge, and lastly needs to admit that humanity and its legacy are not sacrosanct. The world would be exponentially better without us.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 22, 2015 at 2:20 pm #

        Better? Not from our point of view – and who else’s is there? Or are you Gaiaist?

        • Frankiti June 22, 2015 at 5:22 pm #

          Our? There is no our. It’s just you, alone in your head. One of billions fooled into believing in a “self” on a tiny stunted twig on the evolutionary branch. Destined to break off in the big storm. What’s next, something of man’s making? Perhaps. People like to misbelieve that humanity is the conscious of the universe. The universe’s latest attempt to affect itself. Entropy has a cure for that.

          • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 6:02 pm #

            This is not correct.

      • abbybwood June 22, 2015 at 2:30 pm #

        In the AI model for cars it is upon us. The “robot” will decide who lives and who dies:


    • Beryl of Oyl June 22, 2015 at 2:07 pm #

      “People who crave power and are therefore totally unsuited for it”. That’s good.

      • abbybwood June 22, 2015 at 2:31 pm #

        Well, that pretty much eliminates every single person currently running for president, save perhaps Bernie.

        • Being There June 22, 2015 at 2:51 pm #

          Pretty much. If he’s too much of a threat we may hear about a plane crash.
          It all depends on how crazy the oligarchs are. If they know they went down t he wrong path and they want to rectify it, maybe there’s a chance,

          BUT NAAAAAH! (Steve Martin)

        • Florida Power June 22, 2015 at 3:08 pm #

          Bernie has been deconstructed by Chris Hedges, who has just about come over to those who propose to withdraw consent. Now, how to get THAT on the ballot, beneath Hilary and Jeb…

    • BackRowHeckler June 22, 2015 at 10:08 pm #

      Capitalism might have failed.

      Now let us examine the record of Socialism and Communism.


  34. Being There June 22, 2015 at 3:03 pm #

    Oh, oh, oh! Promise him anything, but give him the ss trust when it privatizes.
    I’ve mentioned before, I happened to catch a gaggle of reporters as I love to describe them following Lord Blankfein from a building one evening.

    He turned around and announced to them…..and I quote:

    “The American people will have to learn to live without their entitlements.”

    MSNBC ran once one evening a few years ago, never to be seen again.

    But I lucked out and I caught that l’il varmint imagining he’s doing god’s work…..

    • dannyboy June 22, 2015 at 5:58 pm #

      I think I stole his suit too.

      just to be spiteful.

      I won.

  35. Pucker June 22, 2015 at 3:05 pm #

    At the end of the book “Battlefield America”, the author talks about Transhumanism, AI, and The Singularity. He finishes off with reflecting on the Nazi gas chambers. It could happen.

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  36. Janos Skorenzy June 22, 2015 at 3:23 pm #


    Good expose of the Neo-Con Beast Men as Lyndon Larouche calls them. Their philosophy? There can only be ONE. As the old chant goes: One Ring to rule them all,
    One Ring to find them.
    One Ring to bring them all
    And in the darkness bind them.

  37. Trean June 22, 2015 at 3:27 pm #

    People keep obsessing with Russia taking over Greece. With what? They might be abe to finance a new pipeline but they are in no position to lend Greece cash.
    The entire Russian reserve stands at $335 Billion as reported by the Russian finance minister last week. It had fallen by a third since the start of their latest financial crisis.
    By contrast Greece owes €330 billion or $375 billion, whichever currency you prefer.
    Given the rickity nature of the Russian economy and inflation running at at least 12 percent it’s not in any position to make any large loans, particularly since they are damn sure they’ll never be repaid and that the cash will go straight into repaying Europe thus making them stronger.
    And large they would have to be, one sniff of Russian money and the rest of the Europeans and the IMF will call in everything.
    Putin isn’t the sharpest financial tool in the box but he isn’t stupid and basically giving away at least one third of his cash reserves at a time when a lot of finance is denied them would be an act of gross stupidity. Make no mistake either to make significant difference to Greece and to cope with the fallout from the rest of Europe it would be a loan ove well over £100 billion.

    • Trean June 22, 2015 at 3:29 pm #

      Sorry $100 billion, oops.

    • FincaInTheMountains June 22, 2015 at 5:53 pm #

      “The entire Russian reserve stands at $335 Billion”

      And what the hell does that mean exactly? Russia is by far the richest country on Earth – it has over 30% of all world’s natural resources

      Besides Greece does not need another loan, Greece needs a job, like we all do. It needs means to make it’s own living – and Russia possibly could help with that by 1. Opening its internal markets to Greece agriculture (which EU never did) 2. Make Greece the transit country for Russian energy 3. May be a few bases for Russian Iskanders.

      • seawolf77 June 23, 2015 at 12:02 pm #

        Exactly. When does real wealth i.e. natural resources become more important than fake wealth i.e. fiat currency? During a war? During calamity? During plague? During famine? WTSHTF?

    • orbit7er June 25, 2015 at 4:46 pm #

      the whole point would be for Greece to repudiate the alleged debt to banksters like Goldman Sachs, the Vampire Squid, which helped previous regimes over up their debt. Russia would not pay that but help build a pipeline in its own interests and help Greece move away from the whole Western capitalist bankster orbit.
      And the other BRICS would be new trade partners….

  38. BackRowHeckler June 22, 2015 at 3:52 pm #

    And yet … the welfare state keeps expanding, public sector unions grow stronger, millions upon millions of dependent 3rd world people keep arriving …


    • sauerkraut June 22, 2015 at 7:01 pm #

      Divide and conquer. Sorry, but it looks like you’ve been conquered.

      • BackRowHeckler June 22, 2015 at 9:55 pm #

        Yup, that’s exactly what i was thinking.

        Got our asses kicked, and didn’t even know there was battle going on.


        • sauerkraut June 22, 2015 at 10:27 pm #

          Sorry to be obscure, BRH. I meant that perhaps there is a ray of hope if we don’t turn against each other, e.g. attacking unions, hispanics, muslims, commies, you name the demon du jour, or, as ozone cleverly puts it, fellow victim. We aren’t defeated until we defeat ourselves.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 23, 2015 at 1:18 am #

            You think “we” can share a Nation with Muslims or Communists? Or that they or these other groups can get along with each other? That’s pop thinking at its worst. The Elite has diversified our country so it can never come together. Or are you still repeating in some remote but deep part of your mind, yesterday’s mantra, “Diversity is our strength”?

            Diversity (in the sense they and you mean) is weakness. Unity is strength. Diversity of talents, interests, and personality types is a usually a strength of course – as long as the basics of Ideology, Race, Religion, and Ethne make for unity.

            Irish and Slavic immigrants got along great – both Catholic, liked drinking, and somehow they meshed culturally and personally. Italians and Irish didn’t. Why? Both Catholic but the cultures were too different. Southern Europe differed from Northern Europe more than it did from Eastern Europe.

          • malthuss June 23, 2015 at 1:34 am #

            You are delusional.
            In spectacular denial of whats going on, worldwide.

          • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 6:41 am #


            As you can see, too late for that segment of the population disposed to scapegoating and their Grand Hate Theories.

            But I won’t mention names. That’s why they have Nuremberg trials.

  39. newworld June 22, 2015 at 4:16 pm #

    The hangover from the Obama party is going to be epic in itself, outside of the Wall St frauds you have the basic funding mechanisms of the lumpen proles. Social security disability fraud is rampant, basically those people will never really engage the economy in a productive way outside of working for cash (no taxes), the EITC is fraud deluxe that probably dwarfs the SS fraud. Then you have the student loan debacle at the same time you are basically throwing open the borders in a free for all. Never mind the absolutely disgusting medical rackets, organized theft on a massive scale.

    But we got our distractions, gays, guns and battle flags and never forget the racist hysteria.

    • sauerkraut June 22, 2015 at 7:06 pm #

      Interesting that you should list those distractions, and then complain of another set. How is your preferred set of distractions comparable to the destruction of your country? Or maybe even your species?

      • ozone June 22, 2015 at 8:14 pm #

        You’ve posed the question that dare not be posed to hardened ideologues as the scope of their imagination is extremely narrow. The course of the answer will undoubtedly contain the exact same narrowly-focused complaints and comic book renderings of the enemy du jour (read: fellow victim).

    • mercpl June 22, 2015 at 10:06 pm #

      Why blame just Obama? You need to go back to Johnson and Nixon with their disastrous Vietnam war. You had a short break from excessive spending and unnecessary wars with Carter (the best and most sensible president of the 20th century), but he was too boring so you kicked him out and put in the big-spending war-mongering, tax cutting Reagan just you you could feel good about yourselves again.

      Like I said, why would you lay all the blame at Obama’s feet? Maybe you need to factor in Clinton’s dismantling of the depression era financial regulations, then add in G.W. Bush’s trillion dollar war in Iraq combined with massive tax cuts and Obama never had a chance.

      Oh, BTW, how many Weapons of Mass Destruction did they find in Iraq anyway? Because that was what it was all about, wasn’t it? Nothing to do with the oil.

  40. progress4what June 22, 2015 at 9:37 pm #

    Thanks for the week’s work, JHK. We are living in interesting times, which are becoming more interesting by the year. It’s not often that you seem to be drawn in by blatant propaganda, but it my have happened this week when you say:

    “The Greek government can only pretend to further dismantle its civil service and pension systems lest angry citizens toss it out and replace it with a new government, perhaps an ugly and pugnacious one made up of Golden Dawn party Nazis.”

    Greek politics is beyond my ken. It seems violent and foreign, by current US standards. Greece was a Cold War fulcrum, and may be becoming a fulcrum for something worse, soon. Some of Golden Dawn has been killed by shadowy opponents. Others of Golden Dawn have been charged by crimes and prosecuted. Question is – at whose behest have these killings, arrests, and prosecutions occurred – because I very much doubt that it was at the behest of very many native born Greeks.

    Go ahead and label, though. Wikipedia and the US MSM tell us that Golden Dawn is “Nazi.” It must be true. Those sources are never wrong, right?


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    • BackRowHeckler June 22, 2015 at 10:03 pm #

      Right now a Camp of Saints scenario is being played out in Greece, with thousands of African and ME migrants crossing the Med on rickety boats and landing on various Greek Islands, asking for asylum. The EU commands that they get asylum. The Golden Dawn oblects to these people breaking into their country uninvited … so it has to go, that’s all there is to it.


    • Janos Skorenzy June 22, 2015 at 10:11 pm #

      Well said, Prog. Golden Dawn is Fascist, not “NAZI” – a nonsense word.

      Meanwhile your own Traditions are in danger as the Stars and Bars is removed by a fair weather friend, a female RINO who had defended the Battle Flag previously. She says its removal will bring us together? Since when? Black behavior has worsened throughout all the years of the Civil Rights Era. Our weakness simply emboldens them to ever new and greater outrages.


      • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 6:45 am #

        “NAZI” – a nonsense word.”


        get it?

  41. Janos Skorenzy June 22, 2015 at 10:27 pm #

    Greece belongs to the Greek People – not Billionaire Internationalists, the UN, the EU, Muslim immigrants, legal or illegal, and believe it or not, not to Black African Boat People either.

    It’s extraordinary how revolutionary this simple commonsense idea is – a measure of how low the World has fallen and how far the Dark Age has progressed. But the morning comes. Good website for English speakers that explains it all better than I can. I’m not Greek after all. Who understand what the Greeks need better than they do?


    • malthuss June 23, 2015 at 1:39 am #

      Southern Europe differed from Northern Europe more than it did from Eastern Europe.

      Ah, DNA. Italians brought in slaves. Italians are a DNA soup of Greek, Persian and their DNA is 3% Black.

      I have read [I am not a geneticist but here goes] that the more inbred a nation is, the healthier. I mean health in its strictest use. [bodily, lack of ills].

      And – get this- the more genetically two people are alike, the more they will get along with each other.

      Any thoughts?

      • Janos Skorenzy June 23, 2015 at 3:47 am #

        Yeah, don’t say this to any Italians. They’re Romans you see. Just like the Greeks are Ancient Greeks! Of course sometimes we hate the people we know and love more than we could ever hate the alien….

        Inbreeding brings up diseases that are latent in the population. But once these are bred out of the population, it has its advantages. Of course over time it could begin to stagnate and need a bit of new blood – if that blood is closely related. Thus the intellectual Lin Yutang believed that the Mongolian and Manchu conquests would help China in the long run since these barbarians were closely related to the Han Chinese. Equally obviously, Blacks (or Whites) are far too different and would just undo Chinese Civilization.

        • malthuss June 23, 2015 at 1:02 pm #

          Again, I have no college level Chem n Bio so forgive my ignorance.

          The buzz is the ‘Original Italians’ were pushed into France!

          The ‘Italians’ of today are a mix of Greek, Persian, Black and goodness knows what else in their DNA.

          The future looks black [pun intended].

          As far as the massacre goes, Salon sent out a tweet basically saying that’ white America had to own this incident.

          It was direct contradiction of a tweet they put out that said the Muslim community was in no way responsible for the Tsarnev brothers.’

      • BackRowHeckler June 23, 2015 at 3:57 am #

        Malthus, my thought is that your above post might be enough to get you arrested in the near future, if current trends continue.


    • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 6:49 am #

      sorry, janos

      I can’t get to your latest fascinating link. Currently tied up in some fascinating reading at your “American Renaissance” link.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 23, 2015 at 2:15 pm #

        There are lots of Jews who love American Renaissance. Does that surprise you? Why? They are sick of being mugged by Blacks or being dispossessed as the Jews in Roxbury were by Black terror. A number of Jewish Neo-Cons have written against Blacks. And Hernstein was co-author of the The Bell Curve.

        Or are you just feigning outrage?

        Jews are also favored by Jared Taylor – who has the Southern Aristocrat’s typical love of the Jew. Thus Amren is an “in” for Jews into White Nationalism – a movement they intend to control. Thus it is no longer considered White Nationalist by serious WN’s.

        • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 5:36 pm #

          I don’t feign outrage. I am again sincere. Stop trying to paint me as deceitful. Deceit is the lens you see the world through.

  42. BackRowHeckler June 22, 2015 at 11:48 pm #

    It looks like Greece has indeed managed to kick that concrete filled 50 gal. drum down the road one more time, securing a $1.5 billion loan, for the promise of cutting its pension liabilities 1% beginning next year.

    See, it can be done, a big mutual swindle to be sure, but that’s how it is now.


    • malthuss June 23, 2015 at 1:40 am #

      Is Greece a big deal? Or is it overly reported in the media [owned by the 1%] for some reason or reasons?

      • BackRowHeckler June 23, 2015 at 4:00 am #

        I don’t think its a big deal. The Greek economy is about the size of New Jerseys economy.

        Let them go back to fishing and making olive oil. Iceland defaulted a few years ago; it turned out alright in the end.


        • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 10:58 am #

          the Greek population is representative of others under Austerity.

          It is a Social/Financial/Political beta site.

          • malthuss June 23, 2015 at 1:04 pm #

            testing a ‘wholesale fire sale’ via privatization?

          • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 5:37 pm #


            another pithy repartee.

            I enjoy this myself.

            Is this a koan?

  43. FincaInTheMountains June 23, 2015 at 4:43 am #

    June 22, 2015. EU and Third Reich

    During the Great Patriotic War the USSR was fighting not Germany alone, but the whole “civilized Europe”

    MOSCOW, June 22, 2015 Today, on the anniversary of the start of Great Patriotic War, the Council of the European Union has extended economic sanctions against Russia. It is impossible to imagine that taking such a decision on this tragic for Russia day, the EU did not understand that by doing so it associated itself with those who 74 years ago declared war on the USSR.

    Today, on the day of the attack of Nazi Germany on the USSR, we must not forget that in the ranks of Hitler’s army that invaded Russia were representatives of the countries that a few decades later have united in the European Union.

    If you compare the outlines of the European Union and Europe in the borders of the Third Reich, the geographical similarity gives rise to a feeling of deja vu. Involuntarily you start to remember that citizens of the Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, and Norway fought in the elite Panzergrenadier SS troops. That the 29th SS division was formed on the basis of the Italian Legion, and 21th Mountain Division of the SS “Skanderbeg” originated in Albania. That Spain sent to the Eastern Front 250th Infantry “Blue Division”.

    The French participation in the SS troops deserves separate note. Recall that the French division fought for the Third Reich in 1941 near Moscow, and Grenadier Division of the Waffen SS “Charlemagne” in Berlin fought to the very end. In one day of fighting on April 28 1945 in Berlin 108 Soviet tanks were destroyed, 62 of them by three hundred French fighters of “Charlemagne “.

    Here is an excerpt from the memoirs of one of the parties fighting in Berlin Jean Mabira from his work “The French Waffen-SS, the last defenders of Hitler’s bunker”:

    “During the night of 29 April 30, the battle resumed with renewed vigor. A huge glow lit the streets of the German capital. The earth shook and the fire hit with terrible fever. Everything takes the color of the tragic end of the twilight of the gods. In this infernal opera French often sang a war song of the Waffen-SS:

    Where we are at all times ahead
    There’s devil laughing all the time: Ha! Ha! Ha!

    The struggle took to a hand-to-hand combat.

    On the night of May 2, most of the French and Norwegian volunteers moved directly into the Reich Chancellery.

    French volunteers were in the Führer’s bunker and took part in his last defense. The French fought to the last, even after the suicide of the Führer. ”

    Like this. The French of “Charlemagne” defended the Führer, the Franco-German alliance to the last. How else – they are from the “Charlemagne”!

    Nowadays, it is no secret that under the flag of the European Union united Europe is revived, headed by the German-French alliance.
    In Russian history two Patriotic Wars are linked with Germany and France.

    And when on June 22 EU proclaimed that economic war against Russia will go on – it is a sign that the SS grenadiers got their orders to prepare for a new push to the East.

    • FincaInTheMountains June 23, 2015 at 4:45 am #


    • ozone June 23, 2015 at 10:07 am #

      Speaking of nazis (of the “neo-” branch in this case), Dmitriy Yarosh’s Right Sector is setting up for Coup Number Two… as I had predicted. This would indicate that Porky-skank-ho is about to be what is cutely referred to as: ‘thrown under the bus’ by his [former] Washington backers. As usual, it’s very dangerous to become “friends” with the US political establishment, because lots and lots of shadowy baggage and agendas come attached. I seem to recall some guy in Iraq was fast friends with Donny the Rumsfeld; that did not turn out too well for him in the longer run…


      Curious-er and curious-er! (Although I certainly can’t vouch for the provenance of the article. Who knows? It could be an actual attempt to absolve/distance himself from the whole engineered clusterfuck that once was known as Ukraine.)

      Just thought you might be interested, although it’s off-topic.

      • ZrCrypDiK June 23, 2015 at 4:00 pm #

        “Dmitriy Yarosh’s Right Sector is setting up for Coup Number Two… as I had predicted.”

        Interesting, indeed – for what is it about the Ukraine that, in the eyes of the oligarchs/globalists/MIC, makes them seem so wont to vassalage? Obviously, MIC false flags/coups aren’t really the norm, but simply the way it goes now, ever since about 1953. Sure, it is quite strategically located. However, I suspect it has a lot more to do with future energy resources/infrastructure, WRT their 20 nuclear power plants (where is Chernobyl, anyway?).

        “I seem to recall some guy in Iraq was fast friends with Donny the Rumsfeld”

        Yeah, or what about that Mujahadeen freedom figher in Afghanistan? Or (etc, ad nauseum)…

        “Curious-er and curious-er!”

        You catch PCR referencing the rabbit hole (Alice/Matrix)? FWIW, that quote you provide whuz also in the puzzle TISOTGH, of which I (well, Ixnei, actually) solved the video card (albeit a couple decades too late)…

        • ozone June 23, 2015 at 9:09 pm #

          ” Obviously, MIC false flags/coups aren’t really the norm, but simply the way it goes now, ever since about 1953. Sure, it is quite strategically located. However, I suspect it has a lot more to do with future energy resources/infrastructure, WRT their 20 nuclear power plants (where is Chernobyl, anyway?).”

          By Jove, I believe you’ve got it! So it would be a two-fer?
          Energy and natural (farmland) resources, PLUS a nasty threat and thorn in the side of the Russkies, right in their traditional territory. Ballsy, but not the finest long-term strategy, methinks; too many wobbling plates spinning on sticks. But then again, that seems to be the way [the laughable] foreign policy is conducted these heady days I guess.

          Nuland to Kerry:
          “No problem; we’ll go with Yarosh for the win!”

    • BackRowHeckler June 23, 2015 at 10:15 am #

      Pretty good history lesson, but why are you bringing all that up, here and now, Fincain?

      By the end of WW2 the SS had become a sort of Foreign Legion, and the Legionnaires weren’t exactly volunteers, not even draftees, but mostly pressed into service at the point of a gun. To suggest that there is any kind of link between ‘late in the war SS Divisions’ and the mild economic sanctions the EU have extended 6 months against Russia, is absurd and ludicrous.


    • Janos Skorenzy June 23, 2015 at 2:43 pm #

      Yes, they were magnificent were they not? This is true internationalism – that of Free Men.

      Thus do Jihadis go and do battle – no one makes them go or “drafts” them.

  44. FincaInTheMountains June 23, 2015 at 5:23 am #

    “It looks like Greece has indeed managed to kick that concrete filled 50 gal. drum down the road one more time, securing a $1.5 billion loan, for the promise of cutting its pension liabilities 1% beginning next year.” — brh

    06.22.2015, 20:43 German Chancellor Angela Merkel said that at the current stage of negotiations, an agreement on the Greek question is not reached, therefore, summit of the EU can only be considered as a consultation meeting.

  45. FincaInTheMountains June 23, 2015 at 7:05 am #

    Pope Francis “blessed” Putin in his fight against the “anti-Christian European nobility”

    Pope Francis is so disgusted with liberal Masonic Europe with its legalization of homosexuality, with active anti-Catholic, anti-Christian and anti-religious positions of the European elite, he embraced Putin as his son and blessed him, and said: fight my son like a soldier of Christ this vile European elite that turned Christian Europe into Sodom.


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  46. ejhr June 23, 2015 at 7:07 am #

    I don’t think Mr, K understands money, but that is the same for nearly everybody. I am lay person but I am very intrigued about money[and finance related to it] so I have studied it and can recommend everyone get to study MMT, modern Monetary Theory., which is rather a set of FACTS as to how money operates today.

    One thing relative to this post is sovereign debt government debt.
    What happens is that [sovereign] government debt is the total of T-bonds held at the Central bank. They are not however “debt” as we understand it. They are savings accounts held in the CB by investors [banks etc.] and receive interest from the CB at a seductive rate. When the bonds mature the “loan” transaction is reversed or rolled over. NOTE.no money is spent. So there is no debt.
    The investor money is simply parked in the CB. Why would the bank do that? Because the intent is to take excess reserves out of circulation. Not to fund anything but to help control inflation by reducing banks lending capacity.

    The CB NEVER needs to borrow. That would be borrowing from oneself, a silly proposition. And don’t borrow in other currencies.

    • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 7:14 am #


      Kunstler understands The Money Rackets.

      Beware of The Money Theories. They are designed for a reason.

    • Q. Shtik June 23, 2015 at 2:02 pm #

      Well thank you ejhr for totally clearing up this entire matter for us…NOT!

      • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 2:21 pm #

        well, if you add: trade economics, deficits, currencies and 1000 other nits that affect it all, the explanation is just foggy.

  47. ozone June 23, 2015 at 10:41 am #

    Well now! Greece gets greasier for all parties involved, and yes, the play will be played; drama assured.

    “Clearly, as part of all future (if not the current) Greek bailouts, Europe will prohibit any Russian pipelines crossing Greece and entering Europe in expectations that the Syrian operation will finally succeed and the Qatar gas pipeline will supplant Gazprom as Europe’s primary provider of offshore energy.

    So as Tsirpras scrambles to explain to his fellow countrymen why he did what he did, very soon he will have a much more difficult explanation: either telling Putin that Greece can no longer permit the Turkish Stream (and with it lose billions in direct energy investment with no Troika repayment strings attached), or tell the Troika that Greece is actually more independent than assumed by Belgium, which in turn would force even tougher bailout terms on the Athens government and the usual threats of cutting of Greek bank liquidity overnight if Greece deviates from Europe’s anti-Russia course.

    In both cases more drama is assured.”


  48. seawolf77 June 23, 2015 at 11:22 am #

    The over turning of the central banking/war model is probably the single greatest call to action of modern man. Do we need banks? I would say that banks need to be outlawed. The private market can do everything a bank can do. All the government has to do is maintain the money supply at a level that enables commerce. Not grow commerce. Enable commerce. Go back to the gold standard where every body becomes their own central bank. You can’t outlaw money, because people need a medium of exchange. But we need real money, not fiat money. A note backed by gold. And growth for growth’s sake need to be outlawed. It only exists because of central banks.

    • RocketDoc June 23, 2015 at 3:00 pm #

      Too much money has led to too much activity, trashing the natural world we depend on. Banks are “pushers”. Money pushers (a type of drug) and they need to be curtailed at the local level and prosecuted at the national level. To disenfrachise the bankster/military class we should encourage legal tender laws that permit monetary freedom. You can do business in any money you care to. Thus gold, euros, or bitcoin. The government does not need our money except for the subservience it requires to procure it since it can manufacture all it needs. Free people could transact and contract in whatever they mutually agree on. We don’t want to change the system we want to “evolve it”. All fiat debts will need to be repaid in depreciated value as the wise, in Gresham Law fashion, migrate to “better money”.

      • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 5:40 pm #

        the government defines money as that which will be accepted as payment to the government.

        and the government uses for to obtain those payments.

  49. Q. Shtik June 23, 2015 at 12:30 pm #

    Greece belongs to the Greek People – Janos


    Yeah, Greece belongs to the Greeks but they put the whole damn place up as collateral for their debt because of their profligate ways.

    As I have browbeat my kids for nearly 40 years: “spend less than you earn” and fuck Paul Krugman.

    • BackRowHeckler June 23, 2015 at 12:53 pm #

      Yup, Greeks, its time to pick up a fishing net, a shovel, a hoe … get out onto the fields, go to the sea …

      The days of everybody (hardly) working for the government, with 3 months vaca every year, retiring at full pay at age 42, with every goddam thing you do subsidized, sitting on your asses drinking Ouzo at sidewalk cafes in Athens all day, sneering at the United States, is over. It must have been fun while it lasted,ha! The Krauts got sick of paying for it. Time to suck it up and go to work for real, if you still know how to work. If not, well, tough shit for you, you’ll probably starve.


      • malthuss June 23, 2015 at 1:07 pm #

        You are irrepressible.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 23, 2015 at 2:21 pm #

        Yes, man had the chance to attain paradise via technology but his own inner slavery and profligacy made it impossible. The Ancient Greeks said, We will have slaves until the wheels turn by themselves. We attained that but couldn’t make good use of it. Now it’s back to the basics – and you are happy about it. The idea of what to do with all that free time was really bothering you. Ward is a Warden for those below him but depends on the Warden above him for justification.

      • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 2:23 pm #

        oligarchs, governments, Germany, goldman…

        had nothing to do with it?

  50. Q. Shtik June 23, 2015 at 12:49 pm #

    the more inbred a nation is, the healthier… Any thoughts? – Malthuss


    Orthodox Jews have become very leery of excessive inbreeding and are examining the blood lines of prospective brides and grooms before giving their blessing to marry.

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    • malthuss June 23, 2015 at 1:08 pm #

      How inbred?

      The word is 4? million Jews are related –centuries back–to five, yes five people. Two Turks and 3 Russians.

      This I read in newspapers, not on some blog.

      • Q. Shtik June 23, 2015 at 1:28 pm #

        The word is 4? million Jews are related –centuries back–to five, yes five people. Two Turks and 3 Russians. – Malthuss


        Yeah right…… the Jews have been around for thousands of years and some newspaper has got their origin pinned down to 2 Turks and 3 Russians. Cut me a break.

        • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 1:38 pm #

          there were 11 errors in his 10 word post.

          but, ya’ know ‘i read it in da’ paper!”

          • malthuss June 23, 2015 at 2:08 pm #

            20 words

          • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 2:50 pm #


            “Best 2 Word Post EVER”!

        • malthuss June 23, 2015 at 2:08 pm #

          Do you want that break in yr head?


          • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 2:25 pm #

            ah, the Nature vs Nurture debate, finally settled.

            …and in a newspaper

            of course

          • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 2:29 pm #

            Wait a second!

            Hold everything!

            malthuss, you read the Forvitz?

            dis’ guy really does read alotta newspapers. and I can’t find one to read? hmmmm?

          • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 2:33 pm #

            got it:


  51. Q. Shtik June 23, 2015 at 1:14 pm #

    More specifically, how did you come down with it if indeed you did? – BothEyes


    To my knowledge a deer tick is always the culprit.

    I found an area of red rash about the size of two silver dollars on the left side of my abdomen but there was no tick attach. If the rash was caused by a tick it must have disengaged or been rubbed off.

    I had been working outside “like a slave” (an expression I try to avoid when in the presence of my black friends and acquaintances) for 4-5 days in a row and might have come in contact with ticks.

    I don’t know what I’m going to do if the blood test I get in July says you didn’t/don’t have Lyme disease.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 23, 2015 at 2:39 pm #

      Are you sure you didn’t get served a Lime Rickey by Paul Lynde?

  52. Q. Shtik June 23, 2015 at 1:20 pm #

    I don’t think its a big deal. – BRH


    What makes Greece a potentially big deal is the domino effect… Italy, Spain, Ireland and even France.

  53. Q. Shtik June 23, 2015 at 1:41 pm #

    I think The Donald is the best candidate. – ejhr


    I would be embarrassed to have an egomaniac like Trump as our country’s president. Fortunately he doesn’t have a snowball’s chance.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 23, 2015 at 2:09 pm #

      The very existence of the American Republic is wavering and you are worrying about being embarrassed? IF (and it’s a big if thus the caps – Borat) the man means what he says, then he the only viable candidate. It’s kill or cure at this point. No, he’s not a very nice or developed person in some ways. So what? Newton was a genius in physics and a louse as a person.

      Rush just said: If a Senator wants to read the Trade Deal, they have to go to room in the basement. They can take notes – but they can’t take those notes with them! Sounds like the Bilderbergers all over again in terms of secrecy. Does this at last ring any alarum bells with you – or are you just going to focus on how I spelled alarm back there? Yes Virginny, It’s a Conspiracy.

      • Q. Shtik June 23, 2015 at 2:33 pm #

        You funny, Jan.

  54. volodya June 23, 2015 at 1:51 pm #

    See, there comes a point when the party stops. One Mediterranean la-la land is finding that out. Please, imagine signing contracts (and we’re not talking nickels and dimes here) with no intention of abiding by the terms. Which is what Greece did when they borrowed all those billions. Do you call it theft? If not, then what is it?

    Now the Greeks act all outraged that the bondholders want repayment, otherwise, no more loans for Greece. It’s strangling Greece they say.

    Well, boo-fucking-hoo cry me a river. As if the original loan-money was shoved down unwilling throats. There ought to be an Academy Award.

    As it is, borrowing this kind of money and not paying it back is begging for it most fervently.

    It might have been worse. Just imagine Russians as creditors instead of Germans. Imagine screwing Putin for hundreds of billions. What do you think would happen? Do you think Putin would just let it go? Remember all those little green men on the Crimean peninsula? Remember Litvinenko’s last meal?

    Yeah, I know, would Putin have been dumb enough to lend the money in the first place? Nope, no money, not without something up front ie naval bases for Russian ships, you know, just to make sure the Greeks don’t get funny about paying it back, biznez opportunities for Russian oligarchs, lots of honey to go with the money.

    I have to hand it to the Greeks. They so distrust the competence and integrity of their fellow Greeks that they hand over management of the currency to an Italian. Boggles the fucking mind.

    • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 2:07 pm #

      Oligarchs loot country, buy off government and populace.

      Then they leave.

      Who’s holding the bag?

      • volodya June 23, 2015 at 2:30 pm #

        Who’s holding the bag?

        The original bondholders would likely have sawn off their losses and sold the bonds. What are they trading at now as a fraction of the face value? To put it another way, what’s the effective rate on those bonds? Or, more basically, ARE they even trading? Is there even a market for those things?

        So, who would be the likely holders? Maybe people that are really stupid, who have money to lose, who think they’ve got the inside track. Maybe people gambling on a bailout package, maybe people figuring the bonds’ value jumping higher.

        Maybe, as they say, the Germans. Maybe German banks. And, if the whole thing goes tits up, and some banks are on the cliff because they’re larded up on Greek debt, then you tell me, who’s holding the bag?

        • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 2:35 pm #

          gotta’ pension?

  55. Q. Shtik June 23, 2015 at 1:54 pm #

    “NAZI” – a nonsense word. – Janos


    Nazi is NOT a nonsense word. Google “What is the origin of the word Nazi?” or if you’re looking for a more definitive answer read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.

    I’m sure Janos has read TRAFOTTR so I don’t understand his claim that the term is nonsense.

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    • Janos Skorenzy June 23, 2015 at 2:37 pm #

      It’s a pejorative, as even Wikipedia admits. A play on “Ignaz”, a common name in Bavaria (the birthplace of National Socialism) but also slang for an awkward, ignorant peasant.


      Now the above wouldn’t mean much to Americans or English speakers. But to our ears, the Z sound is uncommon and even sinister. With the true instinct of Merchant, the master Jewish Ad Men pounced upon this and played it up to the hilt.

      • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 2:49 pm #

        the Jews are responsible for the Nazi’s

        am i paraphrasing janos, or what!!!

        • Janos Skorenzy June 23, 2015 at 3:38 pm #

          Well yes, they came up with the slur. And of course they created the crisis that lead to the rise of Nazism too. Or to be more accurate, the Jewish Bankers did. The Jewish Leaders merely supported them and boycotted Germany and then declared war years before the War outwardly began. And the Jewish people did their part by boycotting German shops, and going on strike during WW1, taking German jobs while the troops were away, buying up Germany with loans from abroad during the run away inflation, etc.

          It’s real simple: they were a Nation within a Nation even as Herzl and Weitzman admitted. Hitler merely requested that they leave. Thus the Zionists and National Socialists worked together towards this end. Hitler even let them fly their own flag in Germany – a great privilege.

          • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 5:45 pm #

            waita’ second…


            heard this somewhere before…

            oh, yes


            and janos is dusting it off for his recruiting (that and his intellectualism). Hope I spelled this shit right.

            well it’s just shit and janos, so fuck the spelling.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 23, 2015 at 8:09 pm #

            I thought we weren’t going to use the N word anymore, Danny.

          • dannyboy June 24, 2015 at 9:36 am #


            Don’t rely on your thoughts.

            And certainly don’t act on your thoughts.

            Be safe.

  56. volodya June 23, 2015 at 1:54 pm #

    Nominal, yeah. that’s exactly it. The stupid, fat fucks that run Wall Street will learn the meaning of the word. Not only those guys but the bum-boys at the Fed and in Washington that make their living scraping shit off Wall Street shoes.

    I wonder what American oligarchs were thinking when they sent all that productive capacity to China. Do they think the Chinese play fair? Is there something I missed? I try to put myself in their head-space and I just can’t. WTF did they think they were doing?

    Because those factories and machines and know-how are the REAL wealth. It’s those things that underpin everything including what Mr Kunstler calls nominal wealth. All those bits of paper that get traded back and forth, including stocks, are meaningless without the cash generating capacity of those factories.

    But the factories are in China and the oligarchs taught the Chinese how to run them. The moron oligarchs handed over their REAL wealth to an adversary, one that’s unhappy with present day arrangements and one that’s bristling for a place in the sun.

    So, who gets the prize for history’s biggest laughing stock? The prize goes to the United States of America. The vote wasn’t even close. Nobody in history has ever been so stupendously bone-headed. And all the PTB were in on it so none of them can claim innocence. OK, maybe Bernie Sanders. The far distant runner up? Germany, for giving up the Deutsch Mark.

    The US will default on the couple trillion it owes China. And China will keep the factories. China wins.

    • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 2:04 pm #

      “WTF did they think they were doing?”

      …enriching themselves.

      Now you can relax have peace-of-mind. Don’t be upset. It happened.

      • volodya June 23, 2015 at 2:18 pm #

        Yep, that’s what they THOUGHT they were doing. I’ll bet the Chinese haven’t stopped laughing.

    • elysianfield June 24, 2015 at 12:41 pm #

      “Because those factories and machines and know-how are the REAL wealth”

      Keynes, in his textbook “The General Theory of Employment, Interest and Money” opined that the true wealth of a nation is (paraphrased)…”a nation of consumers willing and able to spend”. This defines a middle class, which is at the core of the issue of wealth, and the loss of wealth to China. It isn’t the machines, it is the jobs running them that are the true wealth of a nation.

  57. wpa--ccc June 23, 2015 at 2:14 pm #

    Ozone, you are wrong. No drama. No 50 gallon drum filled with concrete. Wrong fear-producing metaphor. The can will just be kicked further down the road. Extend and pretend works. JHK is a peddler of drama that never happens.

    Do the CFN true believers ever go back and read the breathless predictions of financial doom? … Predictions that are always wrong.

    This week is doom rehashed once again. Read JHK from Dec. 2009:

    “Right now there are ample signs of trouble with the Euro. It made a stunning downward move the past two weeks. European banks took the biggest hit in the Dubai default. Now they face the prospect of sovereign default in Greece, the Baltic nations (Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania), the Balkan nations (Serbia, et al), Spain, Portugal, Italy, Ireland, Iceland and the former soviet bloc of Eastern Europe. England is a train wreck of its own (though not tied into the Euro), and even France may be in trouble. That leaves very few European nations standing. Namely Germany and Scandanavia (and I just plain don’t know about Austria). What will Europe do? Really, what will Germany do? Probably reconstruct something like the German Deutschmark only call it something else… the Alt.Euro? As one wag said on the Net: sovereign debt is the new sub-prime! The Euro is in a deeper slog right now than the US dollar (even with our fantastic problems), so I see the dollar rising in relation to the Euro, at least for a while. I’d park cash in three month treasury bills – don’t expect any return – for safety in the first half of 2010. I wouldn’t touch long-term US debt paper with a carbon-fiber sixty foot pole.”

    If you took JHK’s bait, you lost thousands of dollars… And the dollar remains strong.

    • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 2:31 pm #

      Now, i’m worried

    • ZrCrypDiK June 23, 2015 at 4:19 pm #

      “The can will just be kicked further down the road. Extend and pretend works. JHK is a peddler of drama that never happens. This week is doom rehashed once again.”

      Obviously someone totally concerned with the continuing exponential rape of mother earth, via clearcutting of all remaining forests left on the planet, extinction of species in said destroyed forests, pollution of the land/air/sea/water with carcinogenic hydrocarbons, heavy metals, and radioactive isotopes, concretization/leaching of remaining soil, melting of remaining salt-free glaciers into the oceans, acidification of the oceans, boiling off of solid methane hydrates on the ocean floor, exponential human population growth, etc, ad nauseum…

      Time for his/her/*IT*’s techno-narcissism to go into full gear – slice-n-dice (can I call you Kaitlyn now?!?).

      • Janos Skorenzy June 23, 2015 at 4:54 pm #

        What is a forest but long, “unkept” hippy hair? Shouldn’t it be well manicured, the trees all in rows so as to be more easily harvested by the Timber Companies?

        The Thai police used to give hippies free haircuts with their bayonets. Nice Lumberjacks, down boy down. Here’s a five – go buy yourself a used flannel shirt. When they get old, you can rip them up and use them as hankies or to clean your rifle.

        • ZrCrypDiK June 23, 2015 at 5:04 pm #

          OMG, say what, Janos? That barely made sense, but came across as “clean” text…

          A forest is a self-sustaining biosphere. The concretized, leached soil that remains after clearcut (slash&burn) is no more than a desert wasteland – barren for decades/centuries(/millenia)…

          You made sense when you talked about women on anti-psychotics/anti-depressants. I can’t understand this reply at all (TROLL).

          • Janos Skorenzy June 23, 2015 at 5:27 pm #

            No, you didn’t get it: I love long hair on women. Once we assume power, women will be encouraged to grow it long and then required to wear it loose at least twice a month – but hopefully more!

            Men with long hair is more problematic: some are bikers and barbarians and others are fags. In any case, I’m going to open a barber shop for both men and women. My specialty will be cutting long hair with a knife or bayonet. I’ll have a collection and the person can choose. We’ll braid the hair and then cut it: very quick. I’ll use a scissors to fine tune the results. Needless to say, women will get quite a thrill from this. How do I keep fags from coming in to get a similar thrill? Maybe I can have a woman partner to deal with them.

            I also love the forest. On full moon nights I used to run thru my local forest naked. At times when hiking I feel I’m in a higher world. It almost like the whole Earth is speaking to me, simultaneously from within and without. The very air takes on a nectarean quality, undetectable to instruments but quite real to the attuned human one. And the air is much more likely to be like that near the “giants” or mature trees. They are, I have come to believe, transformers of raw air into the Life Force, call it Chi, Prana, Vril, or what have you.

        • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 5:52 pm #


          Hate hippies? Why.

          The “Make love, not war” can’t be your reason.

          Their early acknowledgement of the corrupt government and it’s military adventures,; can’t be your reason.

          Their embrace of “Small is Beautiful’ couldn’t ‘turn you off’.

          “Tune in, turn on, drop out” kinda makes sense.

          I Think I Got It! janos hates these people and these ideas because of long hair.

          As good a reason as race or religion I guess.

          Not much luck with love, I expect.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 23, 2015 at 6:16 pm #

            I don’t. The Hippies were a reaction against an excessively militaristic and materialist civilization. The movement was carefully monitored and controlled by the Elite – if not actually created by them with a view towards the destruction of the Nation long term. If so, their plan has succeeded as the Hippies dropped back in to become Globalists, Lefties, Feminists, Race hustlers, Apologists for minority failure, etc.

            Tim Leary knew quite well about Blacks and their extreme limitations. A brilliant psychologist, he may have been in error to promote the mass use of LSD. Perhaps it should have stayed a therapeutic tool in the hands of professionals. But again, who will watch the watchers? Can such professionals be trusted? Based on their capitulation to the Gays and Big Pharma – No.

          • dannyboy June 23, 2015 at 7:20 pm #


            so you’re saying you don’t hate hippies with these words:

            “The Thai police used to give hippies free haircuts with their bayonets. Nice Lumberjacks, down boy down. Here’s a five – go buy yourself a used flannel shirt. When they get old, you can rip them up and use them as hankies or to clean your rifle.”

            I gotta’ join others here in saying that you are not making a lot of sense.

            …at least to humans.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 23, 2015 at 8:06 pm #

            I was telling the Thai Lumberjackish Goons to chill out. Since you couldn’t understand this Midrash, you should have stayed with the Commentary. As they say in N.Y, if you can’t play then don’t. And btw Danny, the great City is a Death Trap in general. And Manhattan, since it is an Island and the wealthy Center, especially so. Where do you think the Looters will be converging?

            Btw, do you wear flannel? I don’t trust any White Man who doesn’t.

          • dannyboy June 24, 2015 at 9:40 am #


            so now, along with race, religion, political beliefs, long-hair (and the list goes on), you hate anyone who’s not wearing flannel.

            Sounds a little crazy, but I guess you can’t see that through your blinding hatred.

        • elysianfield June 24, 2015 at 12:44 pm #

          Or tourniquets….

    • Frankiti June 23, 2015 at 4:49 pm #

      This place is chicken little central. However, given enough time, they’ll eventually get something right. Like chimps throwing darts at the stocks page…

  58. wpa--ccc June 23, 2015 at 4:51 pm #

    ZrCrypDik, I see what you did there. JHK and I were talking about abstract things like money and sovereignty and debt. You then changed to concrete things, invalidating your comment. Nice try though.

    What seems to be bothering some people on CFN is that the Greeks are having more fun …. and shockingly, to the CFN Puritan mindset, is that the Greeks are not working (a sin), not worrying, and not suffering.

    That enjoyment of life, that perpetual free lunch, violates the CFN belief that laziness is immoral, that there is a price to be paid for sloth. The Greeks should not be able to get away with being an exception and that offends. But it turns out that Zorba the Greek lives, and lives well… hard work and wage slavery be damned.

    • ZrCrypDiK June 23, 2015 at 5:06 pm #

      ” JHK and I were talking about abstract things”

      No, you were talking about predictions about the future – nice try tho.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 23, 2015 at 5:32 pm #

      Well said. The whole purpose of technology was supposed to be a higher life for man – not more slavery to the owners or to be replaced by the machines themselves.

      And is not leisure a prerequisite for such a higher life? As Bob said, Slack is what it’s all about – the White Man’s Tao just as Funk is the Black Man’s. And They (we know who they are) can’t stand it.

      And if you don’t know who they are you are one of them.

      • malthuss June 24, 2015 at 1:17 am #

        In the 1970s Leary escaped prison and went to Algeria?
        He met Eldridge ‘I rape a lot’ Cleaver there?

        You know so much ‘Pop History’>> Fill me in.

        • elysianfield June 24, 2015 at 12:53 pm #

          “He met Eldridge ‘I rape a lot’ Cleaver there?”

          I remember a late 60’s edition of “Firing Line” on TV, where the host, William F Buckley, introduced his guest, Eldridge Cleaver”, as an “Admitted rapist of white women…”.

    • Q. Shtik June 23, 2015 at 5:53 pm #

      There is truth in what you say, wpa. In general, we don’t like it when people “don’t pull their own weight.”

      • ZrCrypDiK June 23, 2015 at 6:31 pm #

        Dad! At last, the dad I wished I had (or thought I did). You did beat him by about *exactly* 2 years (NOV ’42). Dear ole’ dad.

        Wait – Father’s day has vanished, into the abyss of nonsensical FOX news. Tell me you love O’Reilly?!? PLZ?

        I know, so many grammatical and spelling errors, *DAD*. I know you can’t be proud – but could you do it secretly?

        Hehe! U catch that sh!t? U breathe, but all you discuss is *ABSTRACT*?!? Hope that Cesium don’t bite you in the @$$ (SOKER).

        Too many POPPETZ!

  59. Q. Shtik June 23, 2015 at 5:40 pm #

    It’s a pejorative, as even Wikipedia admits. A play on “Ignaz”, a common name in Bavaria (the birthplace of National Socialism) but also slang for an awkward, ignorant peasant. – Janos Skorenzy – Spinmeister


    Janos, you often use the word “admit” when the correct word would be “state” as in “Wikipedia states.”

    “Nazi” a play on the first 2 syllables of the German word for “national” was also, as you say, a play on the name Ignaz and its pejorative sense was, in my judgment, about as horrific as “redneck” here in the US.

    The link you provided is an excellent synopsis and can save a person desiring knowledge of this era a lot of time if they don’t want to tackle 1200 pages of The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 23, 2015 at 6:20 pm #

      You forget that Wikipedia is written by people of a certain Liberal persuasion. It doesn’t write itself.

      Does you admiration mean you will henceforth eschew the use of the slang word “Nazi” except as you inadvertently use it when you say or write AshkeNAZI?

      • Janos Skorenzy June 23, 2015 at 6:36 pm #

        Wait – you mean he doesn’t explain this simple point? Thus his bias is revealed and the question becomes, what else is the punk leaving out?

        • malthuss June 24, 2015 at 1:18 am #

          re, Based on their capitulation to the Gays and Big Pharma –
          what do you mean? funding them?

          • Janos Skorenzy June 24, 2015 at 2:56 am #

            Accepting them. The Gays forced pressured the APA to normalize Homosexuality – as if Truth is something to vote on. Science brought down to the level of politics is no science at all. And medicating everyone? Surely the fallacy of that is obvious. Some of these mood enhancers lead to suicidal or homicidal ideation.

            I don’t know the whole Leary story in detail. But I read a bit of his writings and he makes thinly veiled references to Blacks. I don’t know if he realized their limitations before or after he was kidnapped by the Panthers.

  60. hortonz June 23, 2015 at 6:48 pm #

    Am I crazy or did the POTUS and First Lady just expand the definition of “hate crime” to include thinking thoughts that might be offensive to any federally-designated oppressed minority? Maybe I’m reading too much into the nonsense that’s been coming out of the Prez and Her Highness Michelle’s mouth, but based on their recent statements on race it should be a crime for any white people to visit any art gallery or museum in America unless they are accompanied by an African-American or Hispanic, unintentionally allowing a bad or negative thought about any federally-designated oppressed individual, group of species to cross a white person’s mind, or vocally expressing the belief that being born Caucasian doesn’t necessarily make you a racist. Thank you, Prez Obama, who I voted for twice, for taking the time to wade through the dark bogs of leftist xenophobia while ignoring less urgent matters like the impending collapse of the American dollar, the horrible condition of America’s infrastructure or the pathetic spectacle of young American males, black, white and Hispanic, growing up in homes without a positive male role model and graduating to the ranks of the jobless and crime because all gainful economic activity has been outsourced or eliminated. If your administration was honestly interested in improving race relations then you would have fixed this nation’s third-world passenger rail service. Thank you.

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    • Janos Skorenzy June 23, 2015 at 8:14 pm #

      You are behind the times: that all Whites are intrinsically racist has been an article of faith for decades on the Far Left – and taught as much in some Universities for well over a decade, with more all time falling under the Shadow.

    • K-Dog June 24, 2015 at 4:15 pm #

      You voted for him twice?

      ” Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on … ”

      You could have just not voted you know.

  61. Pucker June 23, 2015 at 7:10 pm #

    When I was a kid, “catfishing” meant going down below the river dam on a lazy Summer afternoon to try to catch some catfish for dinner using a stiff worm rod and worms or crickets as bait. Now, “Catfishing” means to cruise Internet dating websites to try to catch “bottom feeders.” Weird….

    • BackRowHeckler June 24, 2015 at 7:11 am #

      Yeah, out here in Edge City the language is changing, constantly evolving, or should I say devolving, as the body politic itself devolves into something frightening and unrecognizable, to the point where eventually we will be out here grunting at each other, waving our hands around frenetically, and in those hands will be a club and a blade.


  62. Pucker June 23, 2015 at 9:14 pm #

    High Fructose Corn Syrup

  63. FincaInTheMountains June 23, 2015 at 9:47 pm #

    Due to recent budget cuts, the light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off

    IMF consciously pushing Greece into default so the capital will flow from Europe to US

    “But the IMF is still unhappy with key aspects of Greece’s new economic proposals, and German officials expressed irritation with the speed with which the commission welcomed them, warning that much work still needs to be done.”

    At this point, apparently, win those forces in Washington, for whom it is beneficial for the following scenario: default by Greece, which leads to the aggravation of the crisis in the European Union and the flight of capital from Europe to the United States (for the umpteenth time!). As can be seen, in addition to color revolutions and wars, the United States has other tools to set fire to other countries and markets with the expectation to become the only “safe haven” on the planet.

    Yet nothing has been decided, but the passions run high. The most interesting development could be the decision by the European Commission (and Germany) to give Greece the money for the repayment of the IMF loan and the IMF to be excluded from the subsequent negotiations.


  64. FincaInTheMountains June 23, 2015 at 10:20 pm #

    “Pretty good history lesson, but why are you bringing all that up, here and now, Fincain?” — brh

    History is not a teacher, but a punisher. It does not teach anything, but only punishes for not learning the lessons.

    “To suggest that there is any kind of link between ‘late in the war SS Divisions’ and the mild economic sanctions the EU have extended 6 months against Russia, is absurd and ludicrous.” — brh

    1. If you think that the hard-core organized Nazism is dead, think again. Take a look at ODESSA – https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ODESSA

    2. The sanctions, the arrest of Russian property in Western Europe is not so much aimed at harming the Russian State, but it is a signal to the Fifth Column in Russia – Comprador bourgeoisie – Betray, Betray, Betray.

    West cannot win the war with Russia militarily, it needs a betrayal from within.

  65. FincaInTheMountains June 23, 2015 at 10:59 pm #

    “Speaking of nazis (of the “neo-” branch in this case), Dmitriy Yarosh’s Right Sector is setting up for Coup Number Two… as I had predicted. ” — Ozone

    Situation in Ukraine is very fluid and uncertain at this point. What is clear is that US is loosing governance and control over Ukrainian affairs:

    Ukrainian Security Service Chief Fired

    Ukraine’s parliament has dismissed the head of the Ukrainian Security Service (SBU), Valentyn Nalyvaychenko.


    Nalyvaychenko, a US Citizen and long term CIA operative, who turned the Ukrainian SBU into a branch of US FBI (yes, FBI – not CIA)

    It sounds like control over Poroshenko government is being taken over by EU (Germany).

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  66. Pucker June 23, 2015 at 11:22 pm #

    MacDonalds hamburgers are made out of Soylent Green. A typical processed McDonalds hamburger meat patty contains meat from 1,000 different cows and is processed with ammonia.

    • dannyboy June 24, 2015 at 10:11 am #

      thank you for your concern.

      but i’m ok


  67. FincaInTheMountains June 23, 2015 at 11:23 pm #

    Russian Defense Minister Shoigu: the Armed Forces should be ready for the negative version of events

    Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu has called the armed forces of Russia and the Central Asian countries to be ready for the problems in Afghanistan. The international forces will leave the country.


    There is a definite buildup of terrorist forces on the Russian Southern direction. It is most likely where the war will start: European Theater of Military Operations will be used to tie up significant forces of the Russian Federation.

    • Pucker June 23, 2015 at 11:54 pm #

      Do you know that the article linked to is in the Russian language?

  68. Pucker June 23, 2015 at 11:51 pm #

    There’ll be a big Gay Pride celebration this weekend. It’ll kick off with a March starting at the Stonewall Inn gay bar in Greenwich Village and will end with a dance party at Pier 54.

    • BackRowHeckler June 24, 2015 at 7:17 am #

      Last week was the Puerto Rican Day Parade; hundred of thousands showed up. As for Puerto Rico itself, well, its a basket case and at this moment is seriously considering bankruptcy; thats how bad it is, Chicago bad.

      The Neon Renaissance has come to an end.


  69. Pucker June 24, 2015 at 1:08 am #

    How come “mental instability” isn’t an issue?

    “Survey Results: More than 75 percent of the OurTime.com membership participated in the survey, and considered the following “deal breakers” when considering whether or not to date someone:

    1. Poor Health (78 percent)
    2. Financial instability (76 percent)
    3. Not physically attractive (75 percent)
    These concerns aren’t too surprising are they? Successful women of a certain age have told me how they do not want to be a “nurse with a purse.” Dating over 50 can be frustrating, because it does seem many mature women meet older men who are ailing physically, financially or perhaps both.

    Many singles have worked hard to build their nest eggs and don’t want a partner without means to drain their bank accounts with health or monetary needs.”

    • ZrCrypDiK June 24, 2015 at 2:59 am #

      You SOO crazy!!! (that’s why) Misty? Haha, yes – and Otis Sitting on the Dock (wasting time)…

    • Therian June 24, 2015 at 3:36 am #

      I think the “nurse with a purse” objection shows how shallow modern feminism really is. After all, men have been financially supporting women through all of human social history. They don’t want THOSE tables turned, even briefly. Also, let’s face it: Women at 55 or 60 are no healthier than their male counterparts especially in recent years when women exposed to more financial stress are catching up to men in degenerative disease rates.

      Since men typically earn more than women, their carping about the “nurse with a purse” idea sounds like a small minority of women that make major bank at their jobs. I spent years on dating sites and, frankly, found that a very large majority of women on those sites are looking for a financial rescue. Most Americans of either gender are now arriving at their “golden years” in lousy financial shape.

  70. Pucker June 24, 2015 at 1:27 am #

    “Play Misty for Me”

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  71. Pucker June 24, 2015 at 2:06 am #

    Aristotle: “Happiness consists of lasting and justified satisfaction with life as a whole.” (I had a teacher once who told me that “happiness” in the US “Declaration of Independence” means “Money”.)

  72. Pucker June 24, 2015 at 2:43 am #

    I’m thinking of moving to Detroit and putting a downpayment on a dream home crack house there.

    • Florida Power June 24, 2015 at 7:21 am #

      Puck — WWSDD?

      (What Would Snoop Dogg Do?)

  73. FincaInTheMountains June 24, 2015 at 6:01 am #

    Alexander Zapolskis: US fatal strategic mistake with the idea of post-industrialism

    While US are still third in terms of GDP economy of the world, industrial power capacity for world supremacy have evaporated.

    Actually, that is why Washington started global expansion to Europe, a victim of which was Ukraine. Plan was to take control of the European share of the global manufacturing industry, in order to add it to domestic capacity and get 38% of the total world manufacturing.

    Thereby confident to regain world leadership, based on which will have a chance to submit the BRICS, integrate into the Chinese “new silk road” and to ensure cloudless future of America until the middle of this century.

    But the plans are not developing as hoped by their authors. Shale oil and gas is over. Russia is not at war with EU. Ukraine has become a useless suitcase without a handle. Islamic State in the Middle East is out of control. The anti-Russian sanctions only accelerated the process of the Russian-Chinese integration and consolidation of BRICS economies.

    Despite an aggressive military rhetoric United States gradually beginning to realize that they cannot maintain absolute dominant position everywhere, and may be even not in any particular place.
    Strategic mistake with the idea of post-industrialism, made a little over fifteen years ago, proved to be fatal.

    Now we are talking only about how exactly United States will hand over its leadership: after a relatively peaceful compromise or through an attempt to jack up confrontation and unleash chaos in the most extensive areas of the planet. Apparently, it will be determined in the upcoming election of the 58th President of the United States, which is scheduled for November 8, 2016.

  74. BackRowHeckler June 24, 2015 at 7:20 am #

    What’s with NATO moving all this heavy military hardware east into Poland, the Baltic States and Ukraine, toward the Russian border?

    Are they nuts?

    Seems a little provocative, don’t you think?


    • mercpl June 24, 2015 at 8:04 am #

      It’s no worse than Khrushchev moving missiles to Cuba and that didn’t cause any problems did it? ….Oh wait..that’s right.

      • seawolf77 June 25, 2015 at 2:51 pm #

        Why is it that the last pictures or movies of nuclear blasts were taken in the 1960’s? Why is it that Eisenhower was the last to see our gold? Why haven’t we been back to the moon in nearly 50 years? Because it’s all a lie.

    • FincaInTheMountains June 24, 2015 at 8:11 am #

      Most likely the announced 250 units of armored machinery is a gross underestimation of real situation – they just need media talking points to explain what cannot be completely hidden from the public.

      I personally do not expect the war to start at that direction, the Europeans are too comfy, too homosexualised to put up good fight, unless they are planning to use millions of Muslim immigrants in Europe as canon fodder.

      And there is no way America would go into direct confrontation with Russia using its own military, unless they could guarantee a 100% betrayal of Russian Fifth Column, which seems unlikely, at least at this time.

      Most likely is just to tie up significant military forces of Russia on that direction, and the main blow to come from the South – Afghanistan (Islamic State, Taliban).

    • ZrCrypDiK June 24, 2015 at 10:33 am #

      Ya think? Let me quote a nice Eagles tune – “did she get tired, or did she just get lazy?”

      Function/form? Yeah, prolly. Compliance follows force, c’est tout.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 24, 2015 at 5:17 pm #

        Welcome to the Hotel California. Once you check in, you can never leave. Stuck in Amber! The Orkin Van is pulling up, the loudspeakers on the roof is blaring the theme song from the Greek movie Z.

  75. Florida Power June 24, 2015 at 8:04 am #

    WPA-CCC writes that extend and pretend works. I am reminded of the old joke of the man falling off the top floor of a skyscraper and when asked how things were going answered “so far, so good.” Developed nations contain vast inertia within all those economic transactions small and large occurring over time, but sooner or later the farmer must be paid, and paid in a currency with unquestioned future utility. If governments via central banks could simply print their way forward in time then why bother with the absurd calculus of taxation? They have already tacitly admitted the absurdity of the debt-which-will-not-be-repaid. It is noteworthy (pun intended) that Bernanke differs with Jack Lew and wants to keep Hamilton on the $10 bill (rather than Caitlyn Jenner) and replace instead Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill.
    Eventually confidence collapses and the scheme unravels, unless it’s different this time.

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    • dannyboy June 24, 2015 at 9:54 am #

      so i’m guessing that the $20 bill will be worth the same as the $10 bill.

      see how it all works out?

      • ZrCrypDiK June 24, 2015 at 10:39 am #

        I can’t believe no one to date has called you out – on your sock poppetry. Good luck shutting Janos up – between U and me, you’re only fueling that fire (both of you spammaz [DB/Janos])…

        • dannyboy June 24, 2015 at 10:52 am #

          don’t believe what you can’t believe then.

          or believe it.

          thanks for the insight

  76. FincaInTheMountains June 24, 2015 at 8:15 am #

    “It’s no worse than Khrushchev moving missiles to Cuba and that didn’t cause any problems did it? ….Oh wait..that’s right.”

    Khrushchev moving missiles to Cuba was a Russian response to already existing nuclear missiles in Turkey with less than 20 minutes flight time to Moscow. After Caribbean crisis they were dismantled, part of Khrushchev – Kennedy settlement, it just was not broadly advertised.

  77. FincaInTheMountains June 24, 2015 at 8:42 am #

    Judging by the results of gas talks at the St. Petersburg Economic Forum, Germany wants to be the main transit country for Russian gas to Europe, skillfully moving away from “the Russian pipeline,” the representatives of Ukraine.

    Multi-layer deal that emerges in the European direction between Moscow and Berlin, will greatly upset Washington, Kiev and perhaps Ankara.

  78. FincaInTheMountains June 24, 2015 at 9:34 am #

    Greece joined the EU on 1 January 1981, becoming the tenth member state of the European Communities. Serious opponents of this solution did not exist: the majority of the population expected rising of living standards, economic growth and reduced crime. Particularly attractive for the Greeks was belonging to the “European family”.

    What gave Greece’s membership in the European Union? Today, this question can be answered unequivocally. Nothing good. Even supporters of the “European way” recognize that the country in recent years almost completely lost its national sovereignty; it refused an independent foreign policy and got into financial bondage. Most succinctly described the situation in Greece, a prominent hierarch of the Greek Orthodox Church and Metropolitan Mesogeysky Lavreotikiysky Nikolai: “We have taken our national identity, self-esteem and destroyed our economy.”

    Even the official statistics indicates the impoverishment of the population, enormous growth of unemployment, the repeated increase in crime. During the years of participation in the EU destroyed the Greek industry. And dealt a huge blow to the Greek agriculture.

    All these years the Greeks were forced to fit into the European division of labor and EU quotas on production. They are carefully developed scope of services for which they were praised in Brussels and tied for third in the EU in terms of economic growth after Ireland and Luxembourg. The share of services in GDP in Greece has increased from 62 percent in 1996 to 75 in 2009.

    Prior to joining the European Union Greeks exported agricultural products, now they import them. In Greece, there were a few plants for the production of sugar and a few large knitting factories – now there is none. The country has been developed shipyard – now they have almost disappeared. EU policy has led to a reduction in fishing, cotton, wine growing and many other traditional industries of Greece due to the quota set by the European Union of agricultural products. Its wine industry suffered – orchards and vineyards, not covered by the quotas have been cut down. As a result, the share of agriculture in the GDP of Greece declined from 23 percent in 1970 to 5 percent in 2010. Construction fell by half, a quarter of the industry.

    The condition for membership in the EU has also been changing property relations. By 2000, Greece has been privatized 27 large enterprises, including 5 major banks in the country. State share in the National Bank decreased by 2010 to 33 per cent. Following the banks were sold telecommunications company, factories of building materials and food industry. Even the production of the famous Greek brandy Metaxa went to the British Grand Metropolitan. The state withdrew from the lucrative maritime transport and began to sell seaports.

  79. FincaInTheMountains June 24, 2015 at 2:35 pm #

    About the Russian-Saudi investment and energy agreements

    Russia and Saudi Arabia signed two iconic agreements: a Saudi investment of $10 billion in Russian Direct Investment Fund, and $100 billion on cooperation in the nuclear field – Russia will build 16 nuclear reactors for Saudis. These agreements are very serious sign of changes in the foreign policy of Saudi Arabia. Instead of purchases of US military equipment gathering dust in the desert and the potential to become the next hot point for a global reorganization of the world, it is much more logical to engage in income-generating project of Eurasian integration, where the problems between Shiites and Sunnis are quietly solved without the participation of a third party.

    It is clear that with this decision Saudis are trying to solve several problems at once – to tease the United States, and at the same time distance themselves from US since it turned out that they can’t solve the Yemen’s problem, and get access to the BRICS and the SCO (to pay for the ticket). The main thing for Russia is to normalize relations between Iran and Saudi Arabia. Plus, of course, given the impact of SA on a radical Islamic fundamentalism and various paramilitary groups, it is necessary to use its potential to quell the mujahideen of all kinds and bring peace in the broader Middle East and Central Asia, because if it is not set, then the war will bury everybody, including Saudi Arabia, and the Americans, as always, will stand on the sidelines and only count the money.


  80. FincaInTheMountains June 24, 2015 at 2:53 pm #

    Germany is becoming a major energy hub of Europe

    The second, no less important event was the signing of the 18 June “Gazprom”, E. On, Shell and OMV memorandum on the construction of the third and fourth thread of the pipeline “Nord Stream”, which runs from Russia to Germany under the Baltic Sea with an annual capacity of 55 billion cubic meters. In fact, this agreement is not only revolutionizing the way the whole configuration of forces in Europe, leaving only geopolitical dwarfs like Belgium, Lithuania, Poland, etc., to play with sanctions, but also seriously stimulate the construction of “the Turkish stream.”

    While controlled from Washington European media for the last six months, if not more, toil in fomenting hysteria around Russia, Berlin and Vienna, without the noise, together with Moscow, prepared an agreement on the two additional gas pipeline under the Baltic Sea to strengthen the energy security of Europe and North Germany, as the main scientific and industrial core of the future Europe. One agreement says about the real aims and objectives of global geopolitics and geo-economics more than six months hysteria of European and American media.

    Germany is becoming a major energy hub of Europe. Thereby Russia is giving the Germany instrument of control over the elites of Eastern European States, much more powerful than the printing press in Washington that is about ready to go down. In winter, the real currency is gas and electricity: the papers are suitable only for starting stoves, heat could only be provided by firewood. But Russia gives the Germany control not of the entire Europe, only the northern part, the southern part would be under Turkey, thus providing a balance of power.

    As a result we have restored traditional imperial zones of influence, not only in Russia, but in Germany and Turkey.


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  81. Janos Skorenzy June 24, 2015 at 3:11 pm #


    This would be front page news all over the World if the races were reversed.

    • K-Dog June 24, 2015 at 4:07 pm #

      Point a camera at high school students long enough and you will be able to film anything you want. I noticed a white boy at the end jumped into the action to film but not to help out to stop the assault. This film doesn’t prove diddley about anything. Typical of video to show emotion but hide facts. A camera records only one point of view, it’s own, and video never shows the back story. Video is always in the moment and can deceive as much as a thousand words.

      • Janos Skorenzy June 24, 2015 at 4:32 pm #

        Thanks for responding to my question btw. I just want back into the archives and sure enough, that week’s comments are deleted. But the accusations and snarls pick up hot and heavy first thing next week. My friend will get a kick out of it.

        Read some of the dialogue from that time – the week before it came down was particularly good. A brilliant guy named Radu Voda was teaching a clueless old rich dame named Myrtle about prison rape being most Black against Whites. She refused to believe, point blank. Still the Liberals refuse to take their own side in the battle for survival. Still they sacrifice other Whites so they can’t be left in “peace” (the peace of death). You just did it again. But also, on the “positive” side, because they really do worship Nature in the form of Blacks.

        And you are right: they are closer to Nature than we are. Not that they appreciate Nature – you can’t get them to go hiking to save their lives. Nor do they typically like sunsets, or any of that stuff we love. No you see they’re closer to Nature because they ARE Nature. And Nature is only beautiful from a distance, as the work of a great artist. Don’t look too close or you will see the desperate struggle for survival.

        Was talking to a big wolf advocate. He was trying to get me to go to a petting zoo for wolf cubs. Good strategy: make the wolves out to be cuddly friendly dogs. A couple of days later I saw a book in the Supermarket written by the other side. On the cover it showed a Wolf Pack surrounding a Moose and her calf. The full grown Moose could probably get away – if she left her calf. If she tries to save it, she might lose her life as well. Good cover for their pov: show the wolves out to be ruthless killers of other cuddly animals.

        Ah, thank God that I worship God and not Nature as a substitute for God or in other words, an Idol. Thus I can love Nature as His handiwork without pretending that it is perfect in all ways – since that would mean including love and morality. Nothing against wolves by the way or ranchers. Each have to be protected from the other. I don’t want to see them hunted from planes in other words. Why not bring back the shepherd or cowboy with his sling and staff, lasso and six shooter? We do have an unemployment problem after all. Also the Rhodesian Ridgebacks could help. This breed will die for its herd – a Christ like dog.

        How is the job btw? We don’t see you much anymore.

        • malthuss June 24, 2015 at 7:07 pm #

          Can an animal be ‘ruthless’?
          If so, is it human like?

          Here, back to rape,


        • K-Dog June 24, 2015 at 8:02 pm #

          Yes, I recall Radu and as I recall he was you!

          The job is great. Working in a great place with great people. It is hands down the best job I ever had. If the goobermint financial juggling acts can keep us from suffering a hard collapse long enough I might even be able to move to Tasmania and join the Woz in his voluntary exile. I’ll have to save pennies for a long time though to do that. Collapse will probably happen before I have enough and global broiling is just around the corner. Still some dreams are worth dreaming even if the end be nigh.

          Yes I still drop in here though with the job and with my blog activities being much diversified there isn’t the time like there used to be.

      • elysianfield June 25, 2015 at 4:07 pm #

        it is a mistake to believe your God-Damned lying eyes….

    • dannyboy June 24, 2015 at 4:08 pm #

      still hijacking Clusterfuck Nation.

      Kunstler is today’s HL Mencken

      you link to daily stormer

      see any difference?

      I though not.

      • K-Dog June 24, 2015 at 4:22 pm #

        Hijacking yes, but with the permission of Kunstler and around and around the world turns.

        • ZrCrypDiK June 24, 2015 at 9:21 pm #

          And here I thought You and ColdN left me all alone, in the dustbowl wasteland!!!… Heh.

      • dannyboy June 24, 2015 at 4:23 pm #


        Here’s one for you:

        “Any man who afflicts the human race with ideas must be prepare to see them misunderstood.”

        HL Mencken

        • Janos Skorenzy June 24, 2015 at 4:36 pm #

          Still appropriating our culture for your own little ends, I see. Mencken, eh? He was a Fascist. Polite words cannot describe what he would proscribe for those Blacks beating that young White Mother. Your complete lack of concern for her and the child is duly noted.

          • dannyboy June 24, 2015 at 4:42 pm #

            you keepin’ a notebook?

            try not to lose your place

            or your notebook

            or your reason

            or your humanity

            …too late

          • Janos Skorenzy June 24, 2015 at 6:35 pm #

            Is that what you do? Keep writing in your little moleskin, I Danny am a Human Being. I Danny am a Human Being. I Danny am a kind of Human Being. I Danny am kind of Human. I Danny am a kind Being.

          • dannyboy June 24, 2015 at 6:42 pm #


            you’re repeating yourself.

            ever notice that?

    • K-Dog June 24, 2015 at 4:20 pm #

      And what about the camera man. One hand holding the camera and one hand in his pants? He couldn’t put it down and kick the perpetrators ass? What’s up with that.

  82. Janos Skorenzy June 24, 2015 at 5:09 pm #

    Mencken on the Negro and other subjects:


    Like his Master, Nietzsche, he is not against the Jew, seeing both his great gifts and great faults. But remember, he lived when Whites still had their own civilization – before the Jew rose to dominance and began his work of destruction via 3rd World immigration. He might have quite a different view now….

    Why do I know more than the rest of you? Is it because I’m smarter? No. Because I know how to use the internet better? No. It’s simply because I’m eager to know the Truth. As Confucius said of himself long ago: There are greater scholars than me, but I have never met anyone more eager to learn. And by implication, to keep learning. Most people rest upon their laurels – and fall into decay.

    The internet is the greatest tool of knowledge in the history of man. Yet people are more ignorant than ever. Why? Because they don’t care to use it for its higher purposes. A more damning indictment of human nature cannot be found. Thus Nietzsche and Mencken’s views are vindicated. And btw, go to Wikipedia, Nietzsche had a huge influence on the Zionists.

    • dannyboy June 24, 2015 at 5:14 pm #

      “Why do I know more than the rest of you? ” – Janos

      the diagnosis is…


    • dannyboy June 24, 2015 at 5:51 pm #

      Am I reading Janos writing:

      “It’s simply because I’m eager to know the Truth. As Confucius said of himself long ago: There are greater scholars than me, but I have never met anyone more eager to learn. And by implication, to keep learning. Most people rest upon their laurels – and fall into decay.”?

      For Janos, Truth is:
      (1) blame the Black population, Muslim world, Jews, and on ad infinitum.
      (2) janos is a lot like Confucius.

      and we’re the decayed?

      • Janos Skorenzy June 24, 2015 at 6:23 pm #

        You’re the one who brought up Mencken. Is it my fault he agrees with me?

        • malthuss June 25, 2015 at 12:35 pm #

          Why are Israelis flees Zion?
          Tel Aviv has 300? whorehouses.

          Also Tasmania is part of Australia.
          I know someone who went there and could not stay.

          ‘Everyone smoked, the nights were so long, food prices were so high’.

          And heres one for you to comment one.
          When I see news like this, I wonder how the public can be so blind?


          • Janos Skorenzy June 25, 2015 at 7:01 pm #

            Yes, sick stuff. But one can’t forget that but for abortion, there would be tens of millions of more Blacks in America. In any case, they’re making up the slack straight from the Nigerian Tap.

            This guy is very important and you should know about him if you don’t already. He never ran for office but he worked behind the scenes to help establish the European Union – whose secret purpose is the elimination of the White Race. He admits as much. He was a half White, half Japanese nobleman in love with the Jews. Needless to say they loved him back and had/have enormous enthusiasm for his plan and have backed it with enormous sums.

            All because he fell in love with a Jewish girl and resented being a hapha.


      • Janos Skorenzy June 24, 2015 at 6:30 pm #

        In terms of the attack on the White mother: Is it my fault? Or just White people’s fault in general? Or her fault even? Even if she did say something to the Black girl, it’s no excuse for attacking her, especially not while holding a young child. Is nothing sacred to these people? Or to you?

        • dannyboy June 24, 2015 at 6:45 pm #


          i have never written a single post regarding black and white persons.

          that is all your thing.

          the prism through which you try to understand your demons.

          Good luck with that and have a nice day.

        • K-Dog June 24, 2015 at 8:41 pm #

          Perhaps white girl was messing with her man. We just don’t know. Not that it makes it all right anyway. Which brings to mind a question I’d really like your take on.

          Are white girls who have a thing for the BBC racist? I say yes they are, though most would dodge the accusation and call it a ‘preference’. For any of those who are wondering the first ‘B’ stands for big.

          Cyndi Lauper would dodge the question by saying “Oh girls just want to have fun“. I say there is more too their dark desires.

          • Janos Skorenzy June 24, 2015 at 9:27 pm #

            Interesting question. Both the Men’s Rights Movement and White Nationalism has explored this question of White Women’s attraction to Blacks. Why Black Men are attracted to White Women is obvious. But why the opposite? Yes, it could be because Black Men are more virile and masculine, both physically and psychologically. This is a variant of the old attraction to bad boys in general, whatever the race. The classic feminine strategy is to get knocked up by a bad boy (a physical alpha) and then get supported or married to a Beta who will actually stick around and support them. Nothing is sadder than to see a White Man supporting his girlfriend’s or wife’s Black Baby.

            Apparently 10% or more children are not fathered by a woman’s husband. Always get a DNA test. Of course this present difficulties if the father is Black. One desperate woman told her fiancé “They always look dark when they’re first born.”

            Is all this racist? You’d have to define that more for me to answer I guess. Preliminarily, to the extent it’s a natural attraction to virility in general or to the individual Black Man – no. To the extent it’s an attraction to all the hype, hoopla, and anti-White/pro-Black conditioning in the media – yes. In any case, you can’t put all this on White Women. They are creatures and creations of the Media. Obviously they’re going to respond if Black Men are made into super stars. Sure a sensitive Black Men might sense this and be offended. But far more just dive right in and enjoy. Black Men are the winners in this situation. White Men and Black Women are the big losers – and oh yeah, the White Women who are beaten, raped, and killed by the Black “lovers” too.

            Surely you’re not trying to focus on the rare Black Man who is offended and ignoring all the rest of the pain from the other three groups?

            Who knows, some White Women might be attracted also because they’re smarter and can dominate such men. That’s become a big meme too, partly responsible for White Women hitting on high school boys. In that case, it’s not smarter but older and more powerful.

            Good idea btw. The Elite are fleeing America, Israel, and Europe for Australia, New Zealand and Tasmania too I guess. Itz coming.

          • K-Dog June 25, 2015 at 11:20 am #

            Obviously they’re going to respond if Black Men are made into super stars.

            Excellent point; while they enjoy the jobless bad boy with no skills they fantasize a superstar is plunging into them. They also fantasize they can raise the baby themselves with a subconscious plan ‘B’ of letting daddy and family help out if the going gets tough. With their second fantasy having far more chance of coming true than the first, the lack of truth of the first fantasy doesn’t really matter.

            Regarding babies women now see and have been seeing for a long time now, themselves living in a consequence free culture. As you say there are always plenty of pussy starved chumps ready to step up and take care of someone else’s mess. And I agree that is sad.

            I think you are also correct in pointing out that the desire of some women to dominate and be worshiped as a prize is all that it takes for their legs to part. I added the ‘be worshiped as prize’ part myself. The emotional rush is the same as what ‘domination’ alone causes.

            Then there is the imagined chance that such a baby, the progeny of adolescent rebellion and servicing of the bad boy might actually grow up and be president some day. It can happen; but growing up and being in Folsom prison is more likely. It has to be a serious family hookup for the future to be presidential, the odds are against it.

          • K-Dog June 25, 2015 at 11:24 am #

            And by daddy I don’t mean the babies daddy.

  83. Pucker June 24, 2015 at 9:59 pm #

    According to the book “Coming Apart: The State of White America”, the odds of a middle-aged white male being “happy” is only 19% if he has either a happy satisfying job or a happy satisfying marriage (but not both).

    Did any of you CFN “Dill Holes” ever see the PBS Frontline documentary “Two American Families”? The black family husband ended up with a happy satisfying marriage but he was working as a garbage man in Milwaukee.

  84. Pucker June 24, 2015 at 10:55 pm #

    According to the book “Coming Apart: The State of White America”, if a bloke is unmarried, professes no religion, and has very low social trust, then he only has a 10% chance of being happy.

  85. Pucker June 24, 2015 at 11:12 pm #

    So some unfortunate white bloke’s white wife had a baby that came out black and the wife told her husband?: “They all come out dark.”

    Have any of you CFN “Dill Holes” seen the movie “Mandingo”?

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  86. Pucker June 24, 2015 at 11:20 pm #

    Someday soon, a bloke will be able to upload his DNA onto the Internet and immediately find out who his daddy really is.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 24, 2015 at 11:53 pm #

      I was utterly amazed, aghast, and almost frightened when I saw as a boy a Monty Python skit, where a pants grabber in the buses pulled down in a man’s pants in front of his girlfriend and the poor man ran off, trying to hide his ankles, yelling, “Don’t look at my ankles dear, you’ll get pregnant”. I was like, NO! That can’t be the way it works! I was outraged.

  87. Pucker June 25, 2015 at 12:00 am #

    It looks like the US passed the “Trans Pacific Partnership.”

    • Therian June 25, 2015 at 1:07 am #

      Of course they passed the TPP. When it comes to globalism there’s only the Mo’ Money Party, any apparent ideological differences notwithstanding.

    • BothEyes June 25, 2015 at 1:27 am #

      It looks like there is a strong possibility that the future for most, if not all, of humanity is going to be, at best, bleak, but then, that has been apparent to all that would read for at least a decade and a half and to the elites for, perhaps, close to a century.

  88. trypillian June 25, 2015 at 2:06 am #

    Jimbo ought to have mentioned the other Horsemen of the Apocalypse rather than harping on economic wars. Chemtrails and endless radionuclides form a modern plague, global heating ( that’s right – heating ) will cause famines, even Jimbo’s garden will wither as will his shortcomings and near term extinction of all living things is in progress as the Grim Reaper beckons from Hades.

    • malthuss June 25, 2015 at 12:28 pm #

      Almost no one here mentions ‘GE’ Geo engineering.
      I and countless others see the spraying of cities.

      How can people dismiss what appeared only 20? years ago.

      • trypillian June 25, 2015 at 9:11 pm #

        It is quite sad that there is acceptance of chemtrails which are in plane sight, pardon the pun. The systematic and relentless destruction of earth’s life support system, the poisoning of soil, water and the air we breathe with nano aluminium particles is really insane. Lets not forget HAARP which uses the metallic skies to innundate living things with radio frequencies so ‘they’ can play God with the weather. The transmissions are not healthy for carbon based life forms last time I checked. Sometimes the radio waves produce erie loud menacing sounds which ‘they’ can’t hide. I’ve heard them once – very spooky.


        • malthuss June 26, 2015 at 3:23 pm #

          I have seen the CT for 20 or more years.
          Much worse now.

          To create drought?

  89. FincaInTheMountains June 25, 2015 at 3:13 am #

    Are CNN and the likes inciting a civil war in US?
    Mainstream media runs a disgusting campaign against Confederate flag

    If someone wanted to incite a civil war in US, an appropriate sequence of events would be:

    1. Announce an exercise, according to which the army suppresses one of the Southern states

    2. Find an inspired white idiot to be programmed to shoot a bunch of black churchgoers (and this automatically hits the black President and the Presidency as such – Whites reproach him that he is biased, and blacks that he only pretends to be black)

    3. Put out the fire with gasoline forcing everyone to shout about criminal nature of the Confederate flag of Southern states

  90. Pucker June 25, 2015 at 4:11 am #

    “They all come out dark.”

    [Jenny to Forrest Gump after she tells him that he’s Little Forrest’s Daddy]

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  91. Pucker June 25, 2015 at 4:13 am #

    Jenny was f…ck’n “Bubba”.

  92. Pucker June 25, 2015 at 4:17 am #

    Bubba: “We’ll share eva-thing, Forrest! Fifty, Fifty!”

  93. FincaInTheMountains June 25, 2015 at 10:10 am #

    Alexander Brodsky

    It is truly amazing how clan war in the United States has become apparent in recent months. Spreading from the United States, this clan war covers new countries and continents. And even the measured and careful historian, Steven Cohen, says openly that in every country there is now “party of war” and “party of peace”, which are connected to each other with a single control center, which, of course, does not rule out that these parties are network structures. Stephen Cohen, of course, cannot say openly that the “party of war” is a party of Clintonites and “party of peace” is, paradoxically, the Bushes, primarily because he will be condemned for it, and even ridiculed for the image of Bush the peacemaker.

    Indeed, could a man who invaded Iraq be called a peacemaker? And the fact that George W. Bush became president, when the United States were on the verge of a nuclear war, and it came to reminder to Bill Clinton about the presence of Russian nuclear weapons, sounded from the lips of the Russian President Yeltsin from Beijing in December of 1999, nobody wants to remember.

    “He (Bill Clinton) apparently forgot for a moment what Russia is and that Russia has a full arsenal of nuclear weapons. Let it not be forgotten, the world in which he lives.”

    Meanwhile, it is the US relationship with Russia has been and remains the main indicator of the danger of world war, and a good personal relationship between Presidents Putin and Bush may have saved the world from the confrontation even more dangerous than the one we see now in Ukraine, and two years ago we have seen in Syria.

    Naturally, in Russia is gaining more and more momentum the point of view that “the US is waging war against us, and for Russia to be guided by the principle of “peaceful coexistence” as it once did the Soviet elite, is at least silly, and perhaps just criminal”.

    But we should not forget about the America of Roosevelt, who was a staunch ally of the Soviet Union during World War II, and several years of detente could easily change the atmosphere in the United States, in some measure to revive the America and heal the wounds inflicted during the years of Clinton rule of US foreign policy.

    • Q. Shtik June 25, 2015 at 11:25 am #

      Steven Cohen, says …………..
      Stephen Cohen, of course, cannot say ………. – Finca


      Make up your mind Finca, is it Steven or Stephen?

  94. wpa--ccc June 25, 2015 at 11:06 am #

    According to Q. Stik, the candidate for whom the public swoons will win. Of the 22 major candidates only one candidate is capable of drawing crowds of thousands: Bernie Sanders. The funny thing is he does it without money. He just makes a post in Facebook and thousands of enthusiasts appear.

    There never was a Reagonomics trickle down and the job “creators” took their factories to China. It is time for USA-style socialism. The country is ready for a socialist president who will effect a large scale REDISTRIBUTION of wealth from the super-rich to the middle class.

    The country is ready for an honest politician who does not mince words. The country is ready to fund our commonwealth and rebuild our infrastructure… with money taken from the rich who have moved offshore and evaded paying their share. The evasion by the rich stops now.

  95. Q. Shtik June 25, 2015 at 11:09 am #

    to shout about criminal nature of the Confederate flag of Southern states – Finca


    I wonder about this big flap all of a sudden over the Confederate flag ….. it’s not like D. Roof is the first guy who displayed a Confederate flag and killed some blacks.

    Let me pose the question to someone with Confederate skin in the game:

    P4W, what are your thoughts on the rush to obliterate the flag, statues of famous Confederate leaders, and even some 200 schools bearing the names of these leaders? Is this the memory hole of 1984?

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    • FincaInTheMountains June 25, 2015 at 11:25 am #

      Bless your heart, Mr.Q

  96. wpa--ccc June 25, 2015 at 11:10 am #

    PS. At this stage in the election process Barack Obama was not drawing the size of crowds Bernie Sanders is drawing now.

    • Q. Shtik June 25, 2015 at 12:07 pm #

      Obama was not drawing the size of crowds Bernie Sanders is – wpa


      Crowds shmowds.

      Crowds and swooning are two different animals. There is NO current candidate capable of dampening women’s panties. If Hillary becomes the Dem candidate (which she will, short of a heart attack or the like) she will get the female vote for the simple fact that she is a woman…….. just like Obama got the Black vote because he is (1/2) Black. Ideologies had/have nothing to do with it.

      Bernie will not be president nor his party’s candidate.

      BTW, a year or two ago you were pushing some Green Party wannabe, then it was Elizabeth Warren and now it’s Bernie Sanders. You still have that old problem with consistency, don’t you?

  97. wpa--ccc June 25, 2015 at 11:21 am #

    to shout about criminal nature of the Confederate flag of Southern states – Finca


    The flag represents traitors and slaveholders, not a heritage to be proud of. As someone said, the flag can be displayed in private white supremacist homes and should be displayed in the window of white supremacist businesses, so we know where not to shop.

    The governor of Georgia said the flag did not bother him. Then 24 hours later, after seeing what the RNC and other southern governors were saying and doing, suddenly the Georgia hypocrite began to be bothered.

    • Q. Shtik June 25, 2015 at 11:47 am #

      The governor of Georgia said the flag did not bother him. Then 24 hours later, after seeing what the RNC and other southern governors were saying and doing, suddenly the Georgia hypocrite began to be bothered. – wpa


      A perfect example of why I am repulsed by politics, politicians, and political junkies, like yourself.

    • Florida Power June 25, 2015 at 4:41 pm #

      It might be a bit more complex than dreamt of in your system. As the war itself was more complex. It is not easy to put yourself in the historical space of those who fought a war against those they considered invaders. But just as a starter, I’d ask you to contemplate the following from Arnold Toynbee. C. Vann Woodward included it as a foreword in his essay collection Origins of the New South:

      I remember watching the diamond jubilee procession myself as a small boy. I remember the atmosphere. It was: Well here we are on top of the world, and we have arrived at this peak to stay there – Forever!
      There is, of course, a thing called history, but history is something unpleasant that happens to other people. We are comfortably outside all that. I am sure, if I had been a small boy in New York in 1897, I should have felt the same. Of course, if I had been a small boy in 1897 in the Southern part of the United States, I should not have felt the same. I should have known from my parents that history had happened to my people in my part of the world.

  98. FincaInTheMountains June 25, 2015 at 11:33 am #

    “The flag represents traitors and slaveholders, not a heritage to be proud of.” — CCC

    You and MSM found one hell of a time to remember that and to bring it all over front pages.

  99. nsa June 25, 2015 at 11:48 am #

    The white trash populated southern states deserve the contempt of every decent citizen…..for importing the scum of africa to work their mosquito infested swamps known as plantations. Likewise, the present day slavers like WPA deserve your contempt for importing the scum of mexico to work their crappy lawns and chicken killing factories. Who do you think is importing all the black tar heroin and death-meth killing your offspring? Who do you think is flooding the welfare roles and suppressing your wages and breeding like deranged jackrabbits and importing the poppy poison? James K Polk stole half their country and they know it and hate your guts and plan on taking it back. You are a flock of sick silly eloi fucks willingly buying into your own extinction and deserve what you get……..

    • Zoltar June 25, 2015 at 12:05 pm #

      I don’t want to be anywhere in the vicinity when your head explodes.

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      • meargen June 25, 2015 at 12:21 pm #

        Germany is the natural European power, and its obvious their wealth keeps Europe going. If Germany achieves this now, it’s only what they would have done had WWII not turned out the way it did and the Cold War divided Europe.
        Germany could have had it all if they had someone who played nice instead of Hitler.

        I don’t like Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. Shirer is biased, and some of his facts aren’t right. A better book to read is The Meaning of Hitler, by Sebastian Haffner. It’s a wonderful analysis of Hitler and Nazism, and only a hundred pages. Haffner was a journalist who left Germany because his wife was Jewish, and he’s an excellent historian.
        Another book is The Hitler of History, by John Lukacs. A good examination of Hitler and Europe.
        As Haffner said, Hitler had the chance to make a united Europe in 1940. As he said, the opportunity practically threw itself at him, but Hitler was obsessed with Russia, and doomed himself and Germany.
        It would be interesting to see Germany opt out of the European union and go back to the Deutschmark, but the EU is an octopus destroying nationalism and individuality. Europe, when it unites, never gets it right. They always go back to Rome, and that means little freedom.

        Also, of interest to JHK might be that in his book on cities, he mentioned the Berlin Schloss, torn down by the reds after WWII, and argued against it being rebuilt. It actually is being rebuilt, and pictures show it’s going up fast. I’m glad to see it rebuilt, and offers an historic center to the city.
        Too much Bauhaus crap has gone up. The blank square box is the official architecture of capitalism, JHK has noted numerous times.

  100. Q. Shtik June 25, 2015 at 12:29 pm #

    a large scale REDISTRIBUTION of wealth from the super-rich to the middle class. – wpa


    Take from the rich, give to the middle class and fuck the poor, right?

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  101. wpa--ccc June 25, 2015 at 7:37 pm #

    “Take from the rich, give to the middle class and fuck the poor, right?” –Qshtik

    The middle class are the new poor, aren’t they? Therian has convinced me to believe that anyway. We are in the worst econcomy since the Depression, according to Therian with his U6, LFPR, BDI, etc. … a new metric every week.

    How’s your boy Christie doing in NJ? He is still in the news everyday.

    I believe your prediction, during the early 2014 Bridgegate scandal, was that Bridgegate would be forgotten by July 4, 2014. You seem to like to make references to the 4th of July.

    Christie’s ratings have gone steadily downhill 2014-2015, but he is still in the news. Bridgegate is still in the news (as of five hours ago).

    • Q. Shtik June 25, 2015 at 8:42 pm #

      I believe your prediction, during the early 2014 Bridgegate scandal, was that Bridgegate would be forgotten by July 4, 2014. – wpa


      I don’t recall being that specific. I thought I merely said it “would blow over like a fart in a windstorm.” But, whatever.

      I think you and Rachel Madcow figured he’d be doing time by now but I saw something on the internet today that he is, or will be, running for president. Not that he has a prayer… just sayin’.

      • Q. Shtik June 25, 2015 at 9:15 pm #

        Oh, and please don’t refer to Christie as my “boy.” There is no politician on earth that I would consider to be “my boy.”

        What sounded to you like an endorsement of Christie was simply my recognition that I thought he would do well as a candidate because people like brashness. They don’t want a Caspar Milquetoast.

        Brashness is the cause of Trump being in second place in the polls in the early going. This, of course, will peter out as it becomes clear that he is not a serious candidate, is feeding an unquenchable ego, and is a complete jerk.

        Some other less obvious jerk will get the nod.

        • Janos Skorenzy June 25, 2015 at 11:13 pm #

          A Jerk? What about his views? Obama’s pretty cool but look at what he believes. You wife only votes based on looks or in this case, gender. Now you seem to be only focusing on personal flaws. That’s only a small step up from your wife’s thinking.

    • Therian June 25, 2015 at 10:47 pm #

      Most of my “metrics” are things like … 9% inflation adjusted decline in median wages since 2009. The “median”, you may recall, almost defines the “middle class”. That’s courtesy of the St. Louis Fed. Even you have to admit that Workforce Participation is far, far more accurate than the U3 (majorly fudged) unemployment rate.

      I hate to burden your limited, telescoped brain with indices of the primary health (or illness) of the economy but it’s good for you to have more access to reality, Asoka.

  102. trypillian June 25, 2015 at 8:38 pm #

    If the 55 gallon drum was one of the several drums that ruptured plutonium 239 nuclear weapons grade fission material from the Carlsbad, NM Waste Isolation Pilot Plant ( WIPP ), then there would be cause for concern.

  103. Janos Skorenzy June 25, 2015 at 10:05 pm #


    A savage (but not unjust) indictment of Black America by an Appalachian Sage – a true living national treasure. Drink deep, you need it. We all do.

    One is reminded of Mr Kunstler excoriations in the final last, scorching pages of The Long Emergency. So many forget these. But I will never forget. I can’t.

  104. Janos Skorenzy June 25, 2015 at 11:26 pm #


    Good review of the Pope’s Ecocyclical. He’s not just evil but worse: silly. We go very deep into Absurdistan with this one. The writing is typical Neo-Catholic saccharine gobeldy gook but he probably didn’t actually write it. It’s too learned in fake science. Rather it was probably written by some UN Committee, the bastard child of a marriage between Al Gore and Barack Obama.

  105. Q. Shtik June 25, 2015 at 11:43 pm #

    A Jerk? What about his views? – Janos


    I have good views too but I’d make a lousy president.

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  106. wpa--ccc June 25, 2015 at 11:46 pm #

    “I hate to burden your limited, telescoped brain with indices of the primary health (or illness) of the economy but it’s good for you to have more access to reality, Asoka.” –Therian

    Therian, please don’t confuse me with Asoka. I do appreciate your metrics and have learned quite a lot from you about our economic situation. I appreciate your posts.

    • Therian June 26, 2015 at 10:27 am #

      Yes, I know, it’s 100% “coincidence” that your rhetorical style is absolutely identical to Asoka’s. Of course, there’s no proving that you are Asoka if you steadfastly insist you aren’t him so I certainly won’t press it.

      As for your “appreciation” of my posts I can only say that this, too, is a mimicry of Asoka’s former style of deflection. If you “appreciate” my posts, why do you make fun of my “metrics” which are often respected indices of global economic activity like the Baltic Dry Index?? It’s not like I pick these indices out of my bum nor are they obscure, little known, or arcane indicators. In practice, you’ve been a trumpeter of how “well” America is doing economically under Mr. Obama despite the simplest glaring data points showing the contrary.

      I’ll believe the sincerity of your “appreciation” when I see one single post of yours that’s an empassioned discourse on how badly the average person is doing. Mr. Obama’s former Fed Chief, Mr. Bernanke, has kited the stock market and saved the pension funds of old farts like me. Otherwise, the “little guy” has a lower wage, still very high debt, the job insecurity of a serious recession, and money is leaving his hands at a rate lower than the 2009 bottom (Monetary Velocity … which you’ve also formerly pooh-poohed).

      Most of my “indices” are publicly available at Fed sites themselves or at the BLS. Nothing fancy, nothing hidden, nothing obscure.

  107. Pucker June 25, 2015 at 11:46 pm #

    In the 1970’s, there was the TV show “The Six Million Dollar Man”, which was later followed by “The Six Million Dollar Woman”. Did the TV series ever branch out into other races, ethnic groups, or religions? For example, “The Six Million Dollar Hasidic Jew”?

    • dannyboy June 26, 2015 at 8:09 am #

      no, because it is not unusual for a Jew to create wealth.

      nave fun now.

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  108. wpa--ccc June 26, 2015 at 12:00 am #

    Qshtik, sir, as I understand the process, usually, but not always, the person who receives the most votes is elected.

    It does not matter how much experience Hillary has, or how many connections, or how much formal pary support she has, or how sociable or intelligent she is, or how much Wall Street money she receives, or how much name recognition she has, or what gender she is… all that matters is how many votes she gets and, if she is not right on the issues, people will vote for another candidate.

    Evidence is mounting now that Hillary might be defeated by Bernie Sanders in the primaries. He is rapidly gaining support and narrowing the margin.

    “A CNN/WMUR poll released Thursday shows that Sanders is just 8 percentage points behind Clinton. Among Democratic primary voters surveyed, 45 percent said that Sanders “cares the most about people like you,” while 24 percent said the same about Clinton. When asked which Democratic candidate “best represents the values of Democrats like yourself,” 41 percent said Sanders, and 30 percent said Clinton.”

    Even if Sanders has no money, to become president doesn’t he just need to get the requisite number of electoral votes in the electoral college… and that process starts in the primaries, doesn’t it?

    • Q. Shtik June 26, 2015 at 10:57 am #

      if she is not right on the issues, people will vote for another candidate. – wpa


      I refuse to believe you are this naïve.

  109. wpa--ccc June 26, 2015 at 12:40 am #

    “I saw something on the internet today that he is, or will be, running for president. Not that he has a prayer… just sayin’.” — Q

    Q, sir, your use of the word brash with regard to Christie seems appropriate. Though non-brash, “no drama Obama,” was elected twice, demonstrating that voters do not want brash. Cynics who are jaded, low-information voters who support Trump, and non-voters like you might fall for brash, but not the majority of voters.

    What you may have seen today is Christie denying he has decided to run for president.

    “Washington (CNN)New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie refuted reports that he has made the decision to run for president during a radio interview on Thursday night.

    “There’s been absolutely no final decision made by me,” he said during his monthly “Ask the Governor” radio appearance on NJ101.5. “There’s lots of people who speculate lots of things, and I can’t be held to account for every bit of speculation that’s in the press.”

    • Q. Shtik June 26, 2015 at 11:26 am #

      Q, sir, ………………. non-brash, “no drama Obama,” was elected twice, – wpa


      1. What’s up with “sir” all of a sudden?

      2. The power of “brash” is not universal. It works well for white males but a brash female would be a “bitch” and a brash Black (of either gender) would be an “uppity n-word.”

      White men get an automatic pass on brashness but like every other personality trait it is hard to fake. Brash is like homosexuality… either you are or you aren’t.

      • ZrCrypDiK June 26, 2015 at 3:35 pm #

        “What’s up with “sir” all of a sudden?”

        How ’bout it, dad?

        “aka the commenter whose name must not be spoken)”

        No need for the ‘)’, dad. And it’s easily spoken – @$$-Soker. Quite appropriate (appreciated?), indeed.

        I believe Therian nailed it with the following, “this, too, is a mimicry of Asoka’s former style of deflection.” Need I provide evidence? “JHK and I were talking about abstract things … You then changed to concrete things, invalidating your comment.”

        How about *THAT* easy-out!!! 3 strikes! Nolan Ryan to the rescue!

        Kiting the stock market indeed! I heard a neat-o statistic today – 20-something US unemployment amoung whites is 30%, non-whites 50%+. Wow, we sure sold the children *OUT* (lock/stock/barrel/*BANG*).

        • Q. Shtik June 26, 2015 at 4:05 pm #

          unemployment amoung whites – ZrCry


          No need for the ‘u’, son.

          • ZrCrypDiK June 26, 2015 at 4:17 pm #

            Good thang we left the children a *safe harbour* (heh). Unreal – this debt has allowed indentured servitude to the UMPTEENTH extreme. Sell your children – no *matter* (we’ll make moarz?!?)…

      • Janos Skorenzy June 26, 2015 at 6:27 pm #

        Yes, with many the sass is brass. And you know what St Paul said about brass bells…

        Brass balls is a different story. That where you get the real brash from.

  110. FincaInTheMountains June 26, 2015 at 5:29 am #

    During the “Soyuz-Apollo” flights, which became a symbol of detente, it was impossible to imagine the current situation, when almost no one in the United States is aware of the role played by the Soviet Union in defeating Nazism. But this is what has made possible the demonization of the Serbs in the era of President Clinton and enables demonization or rather “Hitlerisation” of President Putin that we are seeing now in the US and European media in the era of Secretary Clinton.

    Meanwhile, it is a few years in the 1970s, following the Watergate, that played a fatal role, allowing the “big money” and the “party of war” to seize control of the educational system and the media through the company McGraw-Hill, which specializes in the publication of the university books, and also is the owner of the rating agency S&P-500.

    And the economic crisis of 2008 revealed the relationship of S&P-500 with Hillary Clinton’s election campaign and the collapse of the banking group Lehman Brothers, through which the Bush family financed the election campaign of Barack Obama. As a result, it is the intellectual and university, art-jazz America is now the irrational, fanatical enemy of Russia and the social basis of Clintonites, or if you prefer, the “war party” in the United States. Here such are the “doves” in America.

    Moreover, it is an analysis of university relations allows us to understand how Clintonites in the US managed to build such a relationship with the bureaucracy (and in fact ideocracy) of the European Union, how the EU has become a merciless critic of Bush’s America at the time of the occupation of Iraq, but unconditionally supported Clinton during totally irrational bombing of Serbia.

    Meanwhile, the development of events in Ukraine has extremely negative impact on illusions about the EU, which allowed Angela Merkel for so long to hide behind Obama’s back and to hide so cleverly what forced the EU to extend sanctions against Russia exactly on June 22.

    So now it makes sense to look at what happened with universities in the United States in the early 1970s, as well as the easing of international tension during the Nixon era, more closely, as a model out of the current crisis at the time of US war of clans. This will not only to avoid the destruction of mankind in the flames of a nuclear war, but also to build a relationship with the United States in the case of Detante-2.0, which no Hillary Clinton will be able to spoil so dramatically using methods of “Deep Throat”.

    Clearly, methods of control over the means of manipulation of public opinion, including the US educational system, should be part of any future treaty on the prevention of nuclear war. And control of the school and university programs in particular shall not be less stringent than the control of the missile plants.


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  111. FincaInTheMountains June 26, 2015 at 5:56 am #

    A classic ritual exchange of statements about the military capabilities has resumed between the West and Russia. After announcing its readiness to place heavy weapons in Europe, the United States received a response in the form of statements by Putin about 40 new ballistic missiles and a new model of SAM “Willow”, presented at the exhibition “Army 2015”.

    Such saber-rattling is unusual for our contemporaries, but it was a natural attribute of the confrontation during the Soviet era. At the same time the noise level of the saber-rattling has come down a little and became a rule of life in the world where a single center of power begins to lose hegemony and runs into resistance.

    In fact, as constantly says Putin, is not necessary to panic due to the aggressive actions of NATO and the US, just to be strong and not give them any reason to doubt that they will receive a worthy answer.

    That is exactly what Russia does.

  112. Q. Shtik June 26, 2015 at 11:51 am #

    As for your “appreciation” of my posts – Therian speaking to wpa, aka the commenter whose name must not be spoken)


    Today I am “sir” and today wpa “appreciates” your metrics and your posts.

    As we all know from long experience this is a tactic of disingenuousness and wpa will be back in attack mode shortly.

  113. FincaInTheMountains June 26, 2015 at 12:37 pm #

    A 180 degree turn over the Atlantic

    Today died Yevgeny Primakov, former Russian PM under President Yeltsin.

    In 1999 the guy was flying to Washington to make a last minute deal to prevent the bombing of Yugoslavia. When he was above the Atlantic, he got the news of first bombs exploding in Belgrade.

    Risking his and his crew lives, Primakov ordered a 180 degree turn over Atlantic, refusing to set foot on American soil even for refueling of his aircraft.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 26, 2015 at 6:25 pm #

      I thought that Putin did that. Or did he turn his plane around too?

      • FincaInTheMountains June 26, 2015 at 9:12 pm #

        No, it was Primakov alright. Putin never does anything that he and his numerous staff of nuclear rocket scientists have not calculated to the very last bit of super-duper quantum leap five-dimensional computer.

  114. BackRowHeckler June 26, 2015 at 3:48 pm #

    France is in the news again — I know, who gives a sh-t about France, we got our own goddam problems? A terrorist attack, a severed head placed ontop a pole outside, an exploded Gas Plant, ISIS Black Flag flying! Think of it, a severed head in effete, civilized France … Didn’t Charlemaine run those sonsabitches out at Tours in the 8th century? well they’re back, and with a vengeance, Surprise, they’re all on welfare, you’re supporting them whllst they’re cutting off your heads!, you stupid motherfokkin Frogs!

    But I saved the best for last: Reuters, June 19th, 2015, Headline “5000 French Catholic Churches to be Converted into Mosques.”

    We got got the Freak Flag flying here today, in the USA! China, Russia, ISIS, take note! How do you like it now, Gentlemen?


  115. Buck Stud June 26, 2015 at 3:54 pm #

    Wow, to say that is has been a bad week judicially speaking for “conservatives” would be a vast understatement. After the King vs. Burwell ACA ruling I didn’t think it was possible for Alex Jones’ eyes to bulge any larger or his brows to furrow any deeper. But then came the gay marriage decision from SCOTUS and the realization that Alex Jones’ exasperation really has no limit from I can see. IOW, consternation sells!

    Some lunatics on the right are openly speculating that Obama ‘has something on Roberts’ thus the second time he has saved the ACA although with Kennedy also voting to uphold the federal exchange subsidies Roberts could have salvaged his rep among conservatives but chose instead not to do so. Perhaps the plaintiffs simply had a very weak case as most legal scholar opined (Read Nicholas Bagley at SCOTUS Blog)

    IMO, the ACA is deeply flawed–Bernie is right on this– on many levels and nearly all of those flaws are a result of GOP resistance to equitable health care. The fact that even the deeply flawed ACA, which was originally hatched in the conservative think tanks of the Heritage Foundation, did not receive one GOP along with Blue Dog Dem resistance, is testament to the political realities of that point in time and why we are stuck with a taxpayer giveaway to the for profit health insurance industry.

    One other poison pill, however, was inserted by Dems and come 2018 those currently enjoying the largess of public union health plans are going to be rudely awakened by the “Cadillac Tax”.

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    • BackRowHeckler June 26, 2015 at 4:14 pm #

      Now you got me worried.

      I’m on one of those ‘Public Union Cadillac Health Plans’.

      I know, what a f-kkin hypocrite, huh.

      Cadillac Tax? What the hell is that, Buck?


      • ZrCrypDiK June 26, 2015 at 5:00 pm #

        OMg I ‘membaz U! You were that teenager across the street, making out to Auzzie tunes (abba?), when I whuz about 7.

        Have you sold out your children in this debt-ridden *APOCALYPSE*?!? Quite the *NICE PRICE*…

        • BackRowHeckler June 26, 2015 at 8:43 pm #

          Now you’re Heckling the Heckler, Zip.

          The BackRowHeckler, if you will.

          That makes you the Back, BackRowHeckler.


          • ZrCrypDiK June 26, 2015 at 10:48 pm #

            Ahh, so I C U membaz those *NICE PRICE* thangy’z. Well, sure, someone’s always bound to get the *bettah*. Not likely the 0.01%, but *close*… Oooh, nevah goin’ back *AGAIN*…

          • Buck Stud June 26, 2015 at 10:59 pm #

            Somewhere in the back row sat Pee Wee Herman. Be careful back there /

          • ZrCrypDiK June 26, 2015 at 11:48 pm #

            OK big black buck f*!!! I C wut U doing here! I like Pee Wee – He’d be my byotch fer sure (spooge boy in a raincoat). Shoot tha moon!!!

      • Buck Stud June 26, 2015 at 11:15 pm #

        Didn’t mean to alarm you BRH but there are a lot of good articles on the subject that are very informative. Hard to say how it might turn out; the more people learn of this tax they more it is reviled and it’s not a good thing if Dems alienate public sector unions so I would guess it stands a good chance of being scratched.

        Hypocrite? Nah, if you did the job you deserve the benefits of the agreement just like everyone else.

        The real issue, IMO, is that the for- profit insurance model results in a similar dynamic as student loans for all: the costs fly up, up and away (TWA:)

        Along with that, and as JHK and Therian have insightfully articulated, the basic cost of medical procedures and hospital stays are nothing short of outrageous. In that regard, what difference does it make to a person on the low end of middle class when the high deductible of Obamacare still leaves then with mountains of debt?

        • ZrCrypDiK June 27, 2015 at 12:08 am #

          Oh yeah, the “avoid at all costs” scenario. Sux to B U (me)?!? Rock bottom!!!

    • Janos Skorenzy June 26, 2015 at 6:19 pm #

      And Fruit Loops Kennedy thinks traditional marriage is a vast conspiracy against Gays. There must be something about that name – or are the all related? A Neo Con nutcase on Fox who calls herself “Kennedy” was raving at Ann Coulter about how much Mexican Immigrants help the US economy and therefore America.
      And of course Ted did more than anyone to destroy America. The two that were killed must have been good….

  116. FincaInTheMountains June 26, 2015 at 4:52 pm #

    Europe – The Final Countdown?

    Despite the fact that Greece has received “an incredibly generous offer from the lenders” PM Tsipras said that he will not give in to” blackmail and threats” and sent creditors to hell.

    Earlier, the IMF said that it still expects Greece’s payments of $1.7 billion on Tuesday, as the lender and other creditors were until the last minute trying to reach an agreement with the country, to keep it from defaulting.

    Default and possible exit of Greece from the euro zone – is also a precedent and a very bad precedent. If you could not save microeconomics the size of 3% of European GDP, when problems begin in Italy or Spain (and they will begin), the European Commission could look for the nearest tree branch to hang themselves on.

    Let’s wait until Tuesday. Given the collapse in the Chinese markets, a Greek default can put enormous pressure on the global financial markets as a whole.

    Metaphorically speaking: there is a risk of detonation …


  117. Pucker June 26, 2015 at 8:20 pm #

    Do any of you CFN “Dill Holes” remember the episode of “Mission Impossible” when the IMF Team turned the white racist leader of some Latin American country into a negro by putting drops in his coffee every day? El Presidente wakes up one morning, goes to the bathroom, looks in the mirror, and he’s got a blackface. El Presidente freaks out! I wonder if Rachel Dolezal saw that episode while growing up in Montana?


    • Zoltar June 27, 2015 at 8:52 am #

      My rule of thumb is that blog comments are no longer worth reading once some jerk submits two in a row.

      You’ve done nine.

  118. Pucker June 26, 2015 at 8:29 pm #

    What if Dmitry Orlov is part of some CIA disinformation “Op”?

    What if one day, while being interviewed on some Doomer Blog, he suddenly pulls off a rubber mask to reveal that he’s really the Polish psycho, Zbigniew Brzezinski?


  119. Pucker June 26, 2015 at 8:48 pm #

    Do any of you CFN “Dill Holes” know where I can find the Youtube video of Julia Roberts getting assaulted by the gorilla while touring the African nature preserve? I heard that the gorilla came within seconds of screwing Ms. Roberts before the game wardens had to taser the horny beast into submission. Ms. Roberts was allegedly visibly overwhelmed, shaken and flustered by the encounter.

  120. Pucker June 26, 2015 at 9:03 pm #

    If those survey statistics in the book “Coming Apart: The State of White America” are remotely correct showing a successful marriage as a dependent variable to male happiness, then Feminism would be a total disaster for men.

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  121. Pucker June 26, 2015 at 9:10 pm #

    Obama is Blackface. He’s a “PsyOp”, right?

  122. Pucker June 26, 2015 at 9:25 pm #

    Uber’s Gay Pride ad: “As the nation celebrates equality, family, and our right to marry the ones we love, we couldn’t be more thrilled for Pride weekend in our home city of SF.

    We’re teaming up with the It Gets Better Project to gather inspiring stories from riders and driver-partners. Request the PRIDE option in the app between June 26-28 to record your story while you ride.

    Each PRIDE car will be equipped with a video camera and notecards so you can help spread the message that It Gets Better.”

  123. Pucker June 26, 2015 at 9:37 pm #

    Implicit message: Act like a freak in the back of the car, record it, send it to Uber, and then you’ll be famous. The society has gone NUTS.

  124. Pucker June 26, 2015 at 9:49 pm #

    The Internet Culture is encouraging the People to become freakish in order to provide outlandish content for the Internet. So the Internet industry encourages homosexuality, transgenderism, transracialism and other forms of bizarre behavior.

  125. Pucker June 26, 2015 at 10:03 pm #

    It’s a tot,Al,,it at Ian dystopia in which they’ve brainwashed the People to renounce their right to privacy in order to act freakish to provide content for the Internet in order to become “famous”.

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  126. ZrCrypDiK June 26, 2015 at 10:51 pm #

    Damn, srsly – 10 in a row, Pucker? you cra-Z nonsensical ***!!!

    • ZrCrypDiK June 26, 2015 at 11:40 pm #

      “How come “mental instability” isn’t an issue?”

      Yeah, *that*! Maychance your self-spams explain?!?

  127. Buck Stud June 26, 2015 at 11:31 pm #

    The other day I saw a commercial with Matthew McConaughey in the drivers seat of some car product and looking like he was going somewhere important. He was dressed slick and wearing the laconic facial mask of Clint Eastwood in films such as “Dirty Harry, High Plains Drifter, The Outlaw Josey Wales etc, etc, etc.

    But Matthew doesn’t really remind me of The Man With No Name. No, he’s a real Rob Lowe “Be That Kind of Guy” guy instead. No shy bladder for Matt Mac; he swash buckles right up to the marketing urinals of commercial corporate America and pisses golden streams of delusion on the adoring, collective conscious of those gullible enough to buy the charade.

    • ZrCrypDiK June 26, 2015 at 11:43 pm #

      OMG, Lee Iacocca! is that *still * a compact *K*chrystler? woo, 28mpg in ’84…

    • ZrCrypDiK June 27, 2015 at 1:37 am #

      ” Clint Eastwood in films such as”

      OMG, fistful of $$$?!? Best evah (I love that 8 year old kid who cries for his ma, non-stock) Ramon? Shoot for the *HEART*. Best spaghetti you’ll evah eat.

  128. Pucker June 26, 2015 at 11:37 pm #

    If we’re “data”, then rather than 90% global population reduction, wouldn’t they want more people as producers of data? Our economic function is no longer to make or consume “things”, it’s now to make or consume data. It’s basically to…ta..li taro,,,Ian since as data we are the objects to be controlled and processed, right?

  129. Pucker June 26, 2015 at 11:53 pm #

    In the Future, everything will be “Fuck’n Wonderful”. Since everything is now “data”, there’ll be an “App” for everything. With nanotechnology, there’ll be an App to regulate our bodily functions so that we never get sick. There’ll be an App to strike any unpleasant thought from our minds. There’ll be an App to expunge any rebellious, anti-government thought. No more racist thoughts. No more sexist thought. No more anti-gay thought. No more transgender jibes. Everything will be “Fuck’n Wonderful”, provided that we forego all personal boundaries and all autonomy.

    I bet that a big part of the Trans Pacific Partnership is about market access to data?

  130. Pucker June 26, 2015 at 11:58 pm #

    In the Future, after everyone foregoes their personal boundaries and autonomy (i.e., after they’re fully digitalized), the People will look at the Past and they won’t be able to relate to the people who lived before. The Past People won’t make any sense to the Future People.

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  131. wpa--ccc June 27, 2015 at 2:43 am #

    “In the Future, everything will be “Fuck’n Wonderful”.” –Pucker

    This is the week God shed her grace on America. Things are more Fuck’n Wonderful now… more marriage equality, more housing rights, more health care subsidies.

    This historical moment is Fuck’n wonderful for millions of Americans who now can love each other and legally marry in all 50 states. Now in all 50 states millions of Americans will not lose their health care subsidies or housing.

    The conservative Supremes are rockin’ with Obama… This has been the best week of President Obama’s presidency.

  132. Pucker June 27, 2015 at 2:58 am #

    To,,,tal..it Sri,an movements are programmed to fail, but the failure may take decades to play out.

  133. FincaInTheMountains June 27, 2015 at 4:58 am #

    The Week of Obama’s victories

    I do not know what Putin spoke with Obama (guess about Islamic State), but I know what they did not talk about – Ukraine. In the sense of the conversation it might have been like this:

    – Mr. Obama, we will assume that you have already told me all that you have to tell me about Ukraine, and let us go straight to really important issues

    – OK.

    – Let’s start with Islamic State and terrorist attacks, which, as you know, will soon shake the world, but first let me congratulate you on your victory in Congress in connection with the Treaty on the Trans-Pacific partnership and the Supreme Court’s final verdict on the constitutionality of health reform. Now that you are a winner and, presumably, much better control the situation in your own country, I do not have to listen to what you usually say to me about the problems that threaten to invalidate all of yours and my achievements.

    Of course, Putin did not say anything like that, because the agreement on trans-Pacific cooperation is aimed against China, which is the main ally of Russia, and it is inappropriate of Russian President to congratulate with a victory over an ally.

    The fact of the matter is that Obama’s victory is really important, now it is enough to push through Congress a treaty on trans-Atlantic cooperation, and he will go down in history as one of the most successful presidents and without these victories his presidency could be considered worthless.

    Moreover now, even without agreement on trans-Atlantic cooperation the Clinton Clan will not get control over the printing press, and in the worst case all they could do is to trash the EU economy and may be provoke a little, not too victorious war between NATO and Russia.

    But the most important thing is that Obama made an alliance with the Republicans on countering Hillary and prosecuting her for at least 15 proven deliberate destructions of emails to Blumenthal regarding provoking civil war in Libya, since otherwise the victory would have been impossible.

    And immediately began to decrease the number of tanks, which, according to statements by the US military the United States must place in Eastern Europe and changed the tone of the media in the US, particularly in the way they write about Russia.

    For example: Huffington Post article “US Needs to Think Twice About Antagonizing Russia” or “Russia’s New Tank Can Resist All NATO’s Weapons” – http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/06/russias-new-tank-can-resist-all-natos-weapons/.

    Even quite serious discussion in the media about the possibility of nuclear war could be viewed as a positive factor, because there is nothing worse than heading into abyss under the media cheers that there is no abyss and cannot be.

  134. Cold N. Holefield June 27, 2015 at 8:28 am #

    Wow, I’m gobsmacked the White House donned the rainbow lights last night. It is such a passive-aggressive, adolescent provocation emblematic of a poor winner from a political panderer who seven years prior was dead-set against gay marriage but who was just ten years earlier for Single Payer (and yet never considered it as an option in passing his Insurance Company Perpetual Profit Act). Talk about pissing off the wacko fringe conservatives, there’s no doubt if some of them weren’t gunning for BHO previously, they will be now before his tenure ends. Considering the huge gaps in BHO’s security detail, this may not end well for such a polarizing figure. He’s as polarizing as Reagan (except now it’s a liberal/progressive consolidation of power) — no wonder he channeled him in his campaign. BHO has been Reagan in liberal drag.

  135. BackRowHeckler June 27, 2015 at 9:49 am #

    Anybody up for a NAfrica vaca? In Tunisia, its really sizzling there, and things are poppin like crazy, catch some rays and maybe some lead, whole world is moving north desperate to get into Europe, these European sun worshipers moving south for cheap drinks and equatorial sun, find something else instead. Coordinated attacks all over the world including inside France itself, almost ignored by MSM, concentrating on SCOTus ruling, which in itself is a return to pre-Christian Rome and to a lesser extent Greece … basically just forget about the church now, we have a new religion here in the uSA, based upon sodomy, attendance in this church is mandatory, and apostasy is not tolerated.

    Its pretty clear at some point NATO will be mobilizing its army against Russia pretty soon, they’re not moving all that hardware toward the Russian border for nuthin, this barmy army, a boho army with divisions of hipsters, homos, longhairs, addicts in recovery, feminists, and hard core unionists yelling about their rights, truly an army of the modern west this, will dazzle the enemy with its tolerance, understanding, inclusiveness, diversity … I hope Putin and his tough peasant soldiers, who look like they’re capable of living on piss and tree bark for weeks on end, realize just what they’re up against.


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  136. FincaInTheMountains June 27, 2015 at 10:15 am #

    Dmitry Sedov: Honey, what’s for dessert?

    The world does not know yet that it awaits a stunning sensation. The honorable place of “terrorist number one” that is vacant after the elimination of bin Laden, will soon be occupied.

    However, the new hero of the media will not be the leader of “Islamic state” Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi or the leader of “Al-Nusra” Dzhebhat. Today, the most dangerous enemies of Western civilization are their own flesh and blood.

    After a series of revelations by Ed Snowden, Julian Assange has entered the game again. Initiated by WikiLeaks scandal with wiretapping by Americans presidents of France brought the Anglo-Saxons to go completely bonkers. When Secretary Kerry explained the press that “Americans are not spying on their friends,” his face was so much anguish with despair that it became clear that if Assange happened to be nearby, nothing but a wet place would be left of him.

    Even brighter the fire of hatred is burning in London after the British were unable to get Assange out of the Embassy of Ecuador and found themselves in the position of losers. Harmful scion of Scots and Irish, with hidden genetic hostility to the English metropoly, continues to bite the closest ally of the British – the US of A.

    Judging by the way the world ridicules President Francois Hollande, whom WikiLeaks has put in the eyes of the French in irremediably idiotic position, Washington and London are preparing for the “jump of the tiger.” After all, it seems, the next portion of the revelations by Assange promises to be absolutely shocking.

    Apparently, on the way from WikiLeaks to the general public are materials relating to refusal to sell to Russia helicopter carrier “Mistral”. The French will have to know in what brutal ways their American “friends” acted to force France to abandon the contract. We can assume that it will be serving WikiLeaks to quote President Hollande colorful expressions concerning “one particular African American in a high position”. However, it’s not so funny because the myth of the “Atlantic friendship” will be dealt a severe blow.

    And that’s not the end of the story. Sooner or later the history of committing “terrorist act of 9/11” by American and British secret agencies will emerge. Too many agents participated in this crime, so that they couldn’t have avoided negotiations over the Atlantic on its preparation. The totality of their own intelligence agencies to intercept telephone conversations could have easily resulted in the evolution of this topic into a separate file. If WikiLeaks has such a file, you could safely assume, ladies and gentlemen, that Julian Assange had already prepared it for a dessert.

    It is worthy to get even with his captors as payback for three years of imprisonment at the Embassy of Ecuador.

  137. BackRowHeckler June 27, 2015 at 10:28 am #

    Take note! The one country where no citizens beheaded on the street, Israel! The most threatened and the most exposed, if Israel goes down it all goes down, the last western nation truly with any balls, citizens walk around with Uzis slung over their backs, not talking any sh-t, defending themselves, their families and their Country.

    I know this pisses a lot of people off, the hags at Code Pink, undergrads at Brown and SF State, walking around campus with rags wrapped around their heads, shouting down Israeli speakers, pretending they’re part of the intifada, its all street theatre with these pissants, and they’re off to the next scripted ‘Die In’ at the Soros sponsored ‘Black Lives Matter’ Rally.


  138. BackRowHeckler June 27, 2015 at 10:52 am #

    Haunter of used bookstores that I am, I ran across this book, ‘Slow Apocalypse’, by John Varley, bought it soley because of the titles resemblance to JHKs ‘The Long Emergency’, its science fiction, a genre I don’t usually read, surprise, it covers some of the same ground as World Made by Hand, but the setting in LA and not NY.

    Its quite good, the writer really did his homework on what a post petroleum world would look like, what it would take to survive, and just how important and pervasive oil is in our lives.

    Some pretty good descriptions of LA and the movie industry, Damon Runyon good.


  139. wpa--ccc June 27, 2015 at 11:12 am #

    “Take note! The one country where no citizens beheaded on the street, Israel!” –brh

    Take note! Israel is the only country with a foreign minister calling for beheadings.

    Israel’s Foreign Minister calls for beheading Arab citizens and it’s not anywhere in the New York Times



  140. volodya June 27, 2015 at 12:25 pm #

    It appears that the buzzer’s gone. BZZZZZ, did you hear it? It now appears that the Greek debt negotiations are over.

    Tsipras called for a Greek referendum on the last offer on the table. Which Tsipras himself rejected.

    Let’s see, the deadline on this thing was June 30, the referendum on July 5. So, what are they voting on? An offer that’s expired?

    Looks like a cop-out to me. Why doesn’t the Greek leadership straighten up and stop doing the devil-may-care, tie-less, shirt-hanging-out, playboy thing and just do what it’s supposed to do as the democratically elected government it is supposed to be and say it’s over, there’s no deal and there’s no money and so our creditors will have to suck air. No, they leave it to the Greek man in the street to choose between the rock and the hard place.

    But the man in the street cannot contemplate Greeks managing a Greek national currency. I mean look at the negotiators. Would you want assholes like that managing the drachma? That’s why the man in the street wants the Euro. Thing is, they want the impossible. They also want the German tax-payer to pay Greece’s bills. Now that’s being unreasonable.

    In the end, Greece will default. It already has. No matter how much money Germany pays Greece it will never be enough. It will all get pissed away and more. What’s to be done?

    Not much. Not if Germany refuses to pay Greece to continue with the care-free, café lay-about ways of doing things. See, according to one of Greece’s leading artsy types, Germany should just hand over the money. Greek’s aren’t Germans he said.

    And why should Greeks be like Germans? What fun would that be? Greece wouldn’t be Greece.

    Can you imagine, getting to bed at a decent hour, getting a proper night’s sleep, getting up early, getting your ass to work on time, not paying bribes, not taking bribes, paying your taxes, meeting deadlines, cleaning up a monumentally messed up and corrupt government bureaucracy, all that square-head, Teutonic stuff. Shit, they might as well start doing the straight-arm salute.

    I mean, if you eat at 10pm how do you digest and have an undisturbed night’s rest? You get up and go to work tired and groggy. Here’s a life style suggestion, eat early, digest… you get the drift, you’ll feel better and work better.

    To be fair this isn’t just about Germany. For instance, the Slovaks are saying why the fuck are we bailing out Greece when we’re the poorer country? I wonder what Greece’s answer to the Slovaks is besides sloganeering like “democracy, solidarity, equality….”

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    • BackRowHeckler June 27, 2015 at 12:38 pm #

      V, you nailed it!

      exactly the situation, the final word on Greece.


      • volodya June 27, 2015 at 1:20 pm #

        Some guys are talking about a Greek bank run. They’re saying there’s line-ups at ATMs, that cash is short etc.

        My question is whether it’ll be an all-out bank sprint or a bank run or a bank jog or a bank walk or a bank stroll. Will there be Greek banks that can’t open Monday? Will they call a bank holiday?

        People are asking will it be a Lehman style mess or a Radio Shack style non-event?

        Pensions were paid yesterday. Will pensioners be able to withdraw funds, will ATMs run out of money?

        This is really fucked up. No doubt about one thing though. Greek oligarch money flew the coop a long time ago.

        And if it hasn’t no doubt bank officers aided by the alphabet soup of European and world financial agencies will be holding the back doors open while they clean out the vaults. Can’t have oligarchs losing money, no way, that would threaten the stability of the financial system.

        The average joe? Well, that’s different.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 27, 2015 at 8:56 pm #

      What about fiber? Isn’t that important too? What goes in must come out. Every engine produces carbon one way or another. Or are you just talking about moral fiber? Is there any other kind?

  141. wpa--ccc June 27, 2015 at 1:13 pm #

    Obamacare was born in 2010, made law by representatives in congress, voted for nationally in 2012 through Obama’s re-election, and upheld twice now by the Supreme Court. Obamacare is the law of the land, yet Republicans are still talking like they want to get rid of it.

    When it is five years old, it is time to stop talking about an abortion.

    • BackRowHeckler June 27, 2015 at 3:59 pm #

      Who gives a sh-t about ObamaCare.

      Its our burden to bear, we’ll have to make the best of it.

      The white working class, what’s left of it, will end up footing the bill, like it does for everything else.

      What the hell is your stake in it anyway, and why are you shilling for it?


  142. wpa--ccc June 27, 2015 at 4:15 pm #

    “Some guys are talking about a Greek bank run. They’re saying there’s line-ups at ATMs” — Volodya

    It won’t be real until the photos appear on Twitter.

    I know you are always alert for the spark that ignites World War III, but the events on the ground do not warrant such concern. Don’t be such a drama queen. Defaulting rescued Argentina. It could work for Athens too.

    V., you obviously are biased toward and respect a life of hard work, and you think of yourself as a champion of the working man. Respect the Greek working man. Greeks should be respected even if their choice is to default.

    You like the German model, but Greeks know how to enjoy life… with or without work, with or without money. That is why they are not concerned with the last offer on the table, which Tsipras himself rejected. Countries default and live to tell the tale.

    The rest of the world should lighten up and follow Greek leadership on the care-free, café lay-about ways of doing things. When it comes to debts that cannot be repaid, Greece is no different from the USA… Except the USA has more absolute external debt than Greece… The USA has more absolute external debt than any other nation in the world.

    Canada also has more absolute external debt than Greece. Volodya, take care of your own house and stop criticizing Greece for their café lay-about ways of doing things.

  143. wpa--ccc June 27, 2015 at 4:34 pm #

    Who gives a sh-t about ObamaCare?

    John Boehner and every Republican presidential candidate, and millions of Americans who now have lower deductibles, lower co-pays, etc. … Obamacare is the alternative for millions of working Americans.

    And now it is woven into the fabric of American life. Obama achieved what the previous nine presidents could not. That is an enduring legacy. Enduring because Obamacare cannot now be repealed. It is the law of the land.

  144. FincaInTheMountains June 27, 2015 at 5:12 pm #

    Greece is unfortunate poster child for post-industrial society, but without a printing press.

  145. wpa--ccc June 27, 2015 at 5:24 pm #

    This is the week God shed her grace on America. Obama’s legacy is now established. We now have more marriage equality, more housing rights, more health care options with Obamacare.

    This historical moment is wonderful for millions of Americans who now can love each other and legally marry in all 50 states. Now in all 50 states millions of Americans will not lose their health care subsidies or housing.

    God bless the conservative Supreme Court and its support of Obama… This has been the best week of President Obama’s presidency.

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    • malthuss June 27, 2015 at 6:02 pm #

      We are Legion.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 27, 2015 at 7:44 pm #

      People are disgusted and horrorfied but many still sleep. Wait until they see what comes next – the age of consent lowered. It’s what Gay America wants – and what they want, they get.

      • BackRowHeckler June 27, 2015 at 8:36 pm #

        The next step is legalize polygamy, why not? doors wide open, who can stop it? love makes a family after all.

        Very soon watch for moves to destroy Christian Churches inside the US, removing tax fee status to the ones who refuse to marry homos … maybe even charge priests, ministers and pastors with hate crimes.

        First, any Christians and any remaining traditionalists need to have their nose rubbed in this, and, with a firm hand, be shown the real power of this Media, DNC and Gay coalition.

        And yes, after that they’ll come for the children, cheered on by CNN, ABC and the rest of them.

        Eventually, there will be blood, no two ways about it.


      • elysianfield June 28, 2015 at 1:46 pm #

        ” the age of consent lowered. It’s what Gay America wants – and what they want, they get.”

        If this is the case then there is an interesting business opportunity in manufacturing and selling NAMBLA paraphernalia…get in on the ground floor, and keep it “Made in America”…

  146. Janos Skorenzy June 27, 2015 at 7:45 pm #

    Black Africans beg Whites to come back and rule them. But it’s not enough: they must worship us as the native in New Guinea did. Otherwise it’s no dice – and no “Cargo”.


  147. Pucker June 27, 2015 at 8:42 pm #

    I’ve got some good news and some bad news. The bad news is that Twenty Something unemployment is around 30%, the infrastructure is falling apart, a Princeton University study shows that US public opinion has no effect upon how US Congressmen vote, and we now live in a police state. The good news is that Homos can now get married and can get federal government spousal benefits.

  148. Pucker June 27, 2015 at 8:53 pm #

    According to the Uber ad copied below, Uber’s do’n a big promotion this weekend. If you get a chance, please record a video of yourselves in the back seat and send it to CFN. Please try to make it “Look Sexy”. Thanks.

    “As the nation celebrates equality, family, and our right to marry the ones we love, we couldn’t be more thrilled for Pride weekend in our home city of SF.

    We’re teaming up with the It Gets Better Project to gather inspiring stories from riders and driver-partners. Request the PRIDE option in the app between June 26-28 to record your story while you ride.

    Each PRIDE car will be equipped with a video camera and notecards so you can help spread the message that It Gets Better.”

  149. Buck Stud June 27, 2015 at 11:23 pm #

    A Kentucky Fried Chicken sign I saw today:

    Help Wanted: Seeking talented individuals; $8.50 per hour.

    I guess if unemployment gets low enough perhaps “Right To Work” wages courtesy of Dixie/GOP might start getting lifted by “The Invisible Hand”.

    • BackRowHeckler June 27, 2015 at 11:40 pm #

      $8.50 an hour?

      In the past 20 years we’ve imported millions of people from places where you don’t make $8.50 per month. Millions more are on the way. For them, $8.50 per hour doesn’t look too bad.

      How is that the fault of the South, or the Republican Party?


      • nsa June 28, 2015 at 1:08 am #

        50 million minority indigents imported from the turd world in just 8 years. The result….suppressed blue collar wages, a black tar heroin epidemic, clogged jails and welfare rolls, expanding slums, and a permanent majority for the commie democrats. But it’s all good……as you’ll soon be able to marry your motorcycle and get a free medical plan with a $50,000 deductible in case you fall off your new bride……

  150. JB June 28, 2015 at 4:57 am #

    It’s not just bubbles in the US, but everywhere else in the world. The countryside is dying, while people struggle in overcrowded cities with high housing prices. How can something like this be called a civilization. We do everything in order to hasten our extinction. Why do people value money so much they don’t even care about their surroundings and environment. I’m not happy in this world anymore.

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  151. FincaInTheMountains June 28, 2015 at 5:39 am #

    The Cultural Cleansing of the Southern States Begins

    A full-fledged cultural cleansing of the Southern states is underway as lawmakers debate whether to remove Confederate flags and rename schools and parks named after Confederate war heroes.

    Has the Department of Homeland Security classified the Sons and Daughters of the Confederacy as right-wing hate groups, yet?

    I’m assuming Hollywood will cooperate with the South’s cultural cleansing by eradicating any copies of “Gone with the Wind” and “Forrest Gump.” Forrest was named after the aforementioned Nathan Bedford Forrest.

    I do wonder, though, about those good ole boys from Hazzard County. What are Bo and Luke Duke are going to do with the General Lee?

    Maybe they could just paint a rainbow flag on top and call it the General Sherman.


    Even the Supreme verdict on the constitutionality of gay marriage is aimed against Southern States. Is US War Party promoting a new Color revolution, this time in US under the rainbow flag?

    • ozone June 28, 2015 at 9:22 am #

      I surprised you didn’t get the memo.
      It’s divide and conquer fuckin’ *everywhere* man… and that would include the fabled sea-to-strontium-sea of the territorial US of A.

      What we’re going to see is the consequence of that “policy”; several good-sized brush fires of the ignorant vs. the ignorant (courtesy of vladdie and his fellow ‘folks’) when privation and rage hit the traditional tipping point. Then, after this Darwinian Thinning, some very hard-bitten, hard-minded remainders [of a thinking persuasion] will get on to the ugly business of taking out their *real* enemies.

      So ready yourself for worldwide violence of victim against fellow victim; what we are witnessing now is just the very beginnings, instigated by those who always manage to have others do their killing for them…

      • Janos Skorenzy June 28, 2015 at 5:36 pm #

        So are you willing to stand with your Southern Brothers behind the Battle Flag?

        I didn’t think so.

  152. FincaInTheMountains June 28, 2015 at 6:05 am #

    Next week the Big Money will almost certainly start exiting the EU stock and bond markets. The Big Question is – where they are going to go? Are they are going for a traditional “safe heaven” of US markets, which are at their all time high, or, may be they will go for Chinese markets that just “conveniently” took a 7.5% haircut?

  153. FincaInTheMountains June 28, 2015 at 6:16 am #

    Jim Rogers: Short US, buy China, Japan, and Russia

    China is the largest creditor nation and its stock market is 30% below its all-time high. The U.S. is the largest debtor nation in the history of the world and its stock market is at all-time highs.


  154. FincaInTheMountains June 28, 2015 at 8:06 am #

    I do not share the opinion that the majority of Greeks want to deny creditors. A more realistic view of things is that most of people of Greece want to go back to 2007 and that “everything would be as before.”

    At the level of public opinion polls, it is reflected in a slightly schizophrenic results: about 80% of Greeks want to remain in the euro zone, and about 80% do not wish to continue the policy of “fiscal austerity” (reduction of wages, pensions, etc.), which European Commission, ECB and IMF insist. It is easily seen that it is impossible for both wishes to come true.

    In principle, you can certainly try to retain the euro as the national currency and not pay anything on the loans, but there will be no good of it in economic terms, – salaries, pensions and budgets will be cut anyway, simply because there is no money.

    They still do not realize that there is no return to the past. The club of countries where “life according to Western standards of consumption” is still possible is rapidly shrinking, and even in the most privileged countries, only the higher strata are able to maintain their standard of living. There is very little that Greek folks could do about it, and that was thickly hinted by the Troika when sending Greece’s idea of referendum straight to hell.

    Goldman Sachs hinted that the next stop will be Madrid:



    • Being There June 28, 2015 at 8:16 am #

      Goldman Sachs is everywhere you don’t want them to be.

      Why do they never get in trouble? Why do they expect to get into every aspect of our public infrastructure from education to our ss funds and hard assets. Cuz they act as the financial CIA around the world….

      Game, set and Match….

      They set -up countries for economic chaos in order to create the shock and awe of extreme debt to austerity. They then impose rampant privatization around the world. This has been used in S. America for decades when Milton Friedman was running the economic laboratories for his neoliberalism.

      The results were always an abject failure—but that’s what the US oligarchs like.

      This is “war by other means” as Michael Hudson would call it.

      • FincaInTheMountains June 28, 2015 at 8:44 am #

        Goldman just represents the interests of its main shareholders – the British Crown and Rothschild clan. In US they supervise the Printing Press from the British side.

        But in any case, the full complexity of current situation is obviously beyond ours (definitely my) understanding. Next couple of weeks must clarify at least some aspects of it.

        Good news: it appears that the possibility of even limited NATO-Russia war is negligent at this point.

      • ozone June 28, 2015 at 9:52 am #

        Here’s a Hudson article that most likely will never see the light of day in our good ol’ infotainment broadsheets. Ah, the kitchen light goes on, and what does one see scuttling in the filth[y lucre]?


  155. Pucker June 28, 2015 at 8:40 am #

    That they’re endeavoring to incite a culture war in the US suggests that the future political economic picture is grim.

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  156. progress4what June 28, 2015 at 12:15 pm #

    “Let me pose the question to someone with Confederate skin in the game:

    P4W, what are your thoughts on the rush to obliterate the flag, statues of famous Confederate leaders, and even some 200 schools bearing the names of these leaders?” – q –

    I am opposed. I will change Charlie Daniel’s dates and elaborate at the end by way of explanation:

    “I was born in 1954, only 90 years after the Civil War ended, when the South was looked upon by what seemed to be a majority of the Northern States as an inbred, backward, uneducated, slow-talking and slower-thinking people, with low morals and a propensity for incest …

    As you might suppose, people in the South bitterly resented this attitude of superiority, and in some quarters the words “damn” and “Yankee” became one word. And a somewhat fierce type of Southern pride came into being.

    The Confederate battle flag was a sign of defiance, a sign of pride, a declaration of a geographical area that you were proud to be from.

    That’s all it is to me and all it has ever been to me…

    I feel that this controversy desperately needs to be settled without federal interference and input from race baiters like Al Sharpton”…. (added by p4w) and their ilk who have come to dominate the internet, Facebook, and the MSM.


    Nothing lasts forever, Q. But the sneering poor-winner attitude of the pro-gay-marriage and anti-Confederate flag groups that is now being displayed – speaks very poorly of those who hold these views, and does not augur well for a better future.

    Read more: http://www.bizpacreview.com/2015/06/28/charlie-daniels-takes-stand-for-confederate-flag-pride-slams-race-baiters-like-al-sharpton-218762#ixzz3eNCwtivD

  157. progress4what June 28, 2015 at 12:38 pm #

    “That they’re endeavoring to incite a culture war in the US suggests that the future political economic picture is grim.” – pucker –

    Quite likely, pucker. Did you see where “Hillary,” no less, got fussed at for using the phrase “All Lives Matter.” Anyone who makes the the argument that the phrase must be stated as “Black Lives Matter,” is definitely making an argument for low-grade racial conflict that extends into the far future, probably for as long as something called the United States exists.

    In a logical world, only a shill for the oligarchs, an unthinking black racist, or a truly stupid follower of trends – would ever argue against the saying, “All Lives Matter.”


    K-dog, janos, and anyone who knows. What was the year, month, and week when WPA/pkrugman/whatever was outed as a probable government shill?

    Janos, you made reference to a CFN post where the comment files were deleted. Would you give the week for that, please?


    I think those of us who have ridden these comment threads at CFN since the beginning may have participated in something that will never be repeated. It was – despite all the Chinese spam, 8M/Spider posts, and government agent misdirections – something of a real genuine interchange between people who were attempting to see behind the curtain and understand each other.

    All that’s over, now. The internet is broken up into pointless warring camps, corralled in place by Facebook and partisan comment threads – and self-monitored by fear of the PC forces that control HR departments and make hiring decisions.

    TPTB must be pleased.
    Demons in Hell must be dancing a jig.

    Ozone, this fits in well with the JPEG that you posted in the a.m.


    Oh, and I almost forgot; thanks for the week’s work, JHK, it is always appreciated. And thank you for the comment space, it was a beautiful thing, for a while.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 28, 2015 at 5:43 pm #

      The comments have been deleted for the week of January 21, 2013 so I assume that’s when it actually came down – late in the week if memory serves.

      The action picks up hot and heavy first thing on Monday the 28th.

  158. wpa--ccc June 28, 2015 at 1:06 pm #

    P4W, it was K-dog who uncovered Asoka, who was posting around the clock, hundreds of posts a week. Asoka was discovered to be posting from Alexandria, and K-dog say he was a government DoD agent.

    January 28, 2013 at 10:50 am #
    24 Jan 15:33:33 Firefox 14.0
    1440×900 United States Flag
    United States
    Us Department Of Defense Network
    That’s Agent Asoka for those of you who only stop by on Monday.
    The hole has been plugged.

  159. wpa--ccc June 28, 2015 at 1:21 pm #

    P4W, someone posting as Asoka: confessed to being a government agent:

    January 28, 2013 at 11:55 am #
    All right K-dog, point taken.
    So for the several hundred or so souls out there let me offer up the most sincere apology for the last seven years. I am deeply ashamed. Please take note of the following corrections:
    1. I don’t live in a mud hut; there is no mud hut.
    2. I have a nice townhouse in Washington D.C. (Is this a great country or what?)
    3. I’m not black. I’m a white guy in his mid thirties.
    4. I’ve never been to Ecuador, or New Mexico for that matter.
    5. There is no Mrs. Asoka.
    6. I make a lot more than $12,000 a year; I don’t make $33 every day just for getting out of bed.
    7. I’m here on the US government tab; your tax dollars at work for a better United States of America.
    8. My Spanish speaking ability is poor at best.
    9. I’ve been a shameless liar here for the last seven years.
    Agent Asoka

  160. trypillian June 28, 2015 at 1:24 pm #

    You will have to ask the psychopathic nut jobs who run the program.
    Why is there a ‘ridiculously resilient ridge’ of high pressure baking the western US and Canada. Why has every incoming Pacific low pressure, precipitation bearing weather system been snuffed out by HAARP for 3 years. Why has the California drought gone on for 3 years with no end in sight to the weather pattern. With the eastern Pacific water temperature at record highs and El Nino forming, the drought will continue to entrench.

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  161. FincaInTheMountains June 28, 2015 at 1:34 pm #

    After 26 months of operations I finally have the palm nut business to be self-sufficient and even generate a small profit. Having never in my previous life working in real production, I finally have a chance to realize how much harder it is to make a living producing something tangible rather than flipping stocks or real estate (which I did a lot too in my prior life).

    Even real engineering work in States, creating mobile browsing software was a hell of a lot more lucrative in terms of monetary reward compared to producing animal feed.

    Here are the factors that work in my favor:

    1. Abundance of Royal Palm Trees on the Island – there are untold millions of them and 99% of the produce – literally millions of tons – go to waste

    2. Low wages of local workers – on average they cost around $200 – $250 a month. I don’t mind paying a higher wages, but that will ruin the company in no time – I have to correlate my expenses with what I could take in.

    3. The resulting feed is adored by the cows and I am getting a good reputation among the local dairy and cattle farmers.

    4. It appears that the nuts of the Royal Palm contains some ingredients that makes cows look healthier, so I am getting more customers who buys my feed just to sell their herd at a better price

    5. The milled nuts turn out to be at least twice cheaper in price than the next available ingredient – the imported GMO de-hulled corn.

    6. I do not incur the risks of investing into future crops that are 3 to 6 months away, just pay for the right to collect from already existing crops.

    Here are the factors that work against me:

    1. High price of energy – both electric and diesel oil. I pay 27 cents per kwH and $3.80 per gallon

    2. High price of truck maintenance – local roads, if they exist at all, are of extremely poor quality

    3. To climb a Royal Palm you need a qualified climber – a “toombador” – not just any local who could easily climb say a coconut palm. One guy working for me makes almost a $1000 a month – I pay per production.

    4. 15 days credit cycle that I use to sell to dairy farmers (a customary practice on an Island) leads to some (but not too much) difficulties in collections and debt management

    5. The protein content of Palm feed is lower than in US-produced GMO soya, which is sold here, but it is at least 4 times cheaper compared to soya. So the cows that used to get soya-based feed after switching to my feed, loose in milk production around 5 to 10 percent
    6. My own age – I should’ve started that business when I was at least 10 years younger.

    I do not owe large Palm Tree plantations, so what I do is sign a contract with the land owners giving me the right to collect all nuts from their palm trees. Since nobody else is willing to pay for it, it is like money from nowhere for them (however they still try to drive a hard bargain)

  162. michigan_native June 28, 2015 at 2:17 pm #

    Looks like things are coming to a critical mass both geopolitically and environmentally.

    Start close to home and work your way out from there. Summertime blues. I am beginning to think its too much to ask for just one clear, 70 degree, low humidity day when I am actually off work so I can enjoy one of the few things I have left in life, my flower gardens.

    Either is shitty, humid, and overcast with days of non stop rain that floods my basement (despite the 100% guaranteed lifetime water proofing system that came with this entropy bunker when I got ripped off for it during the peak housing bubble) (the company has long ago went out of business) or its hot and humid. Mosquitos everywhere, one wrong bite can bring on a death sentence from the West Nile Virus or Lyme Disease by a tick. The local stores love it when the West Nile scare kicks into high gear, they mark up the price on their cans of ‘mosquito repellants’.

    Turn on the news. Areas of the country that aren’t getting baked alive are being flooded with torrential rain. Makes me wonder how the inbreds/rednecks in the good old south are going to prosper when the energy crisis hits home and they no longer have AC and fans to cool the stench off their bodies. During more uncharitable moments, I when I am not hoping that a giant tsunami will not arise and inundate the entire southeast and wipe out everyone in the “old Confederacy”, I think to myself “could not happen to a nicer bunch of people”.

    Turn the channel. While FOX news and other propaganda outlets for the 1% regurgitate their usual fecal spew about Putin/Russia as the new enemy or yap on about some non existent “recovery” and ignore the latest act of sanctified murder by the forces of law and order (yet another black is beaten or killed for the capital offenses of being loud at a pool party, selling illegal cigarettes, having a broken tail light, etc etc), they can’t ignore the riots that ensue or the latest punk kid that took their parents gun and went on a killing spree (in the case of that inbred in South Carolina, I understand the parents bought him the gun he used to kill 9 people). Dmitry Orlov described the collapse process that is apparently gaining rapid momentum as occurring in 5 stages. The stages overlap but it appears the final two stages, social and cultural collapse, are now inevitable. A few more killings by the cops on steroids, whose new purpose in life appears to be to steal money from people in any way and every way they can in a vain, futile, and undignified effort to prop up local, county, and state budgets that will experience “chronic budget shortfalls due to an ever eroding tax base” because the economy is in a permanent state of contraction, and we will likely see an all out race war and the beginnings of what we all knew was coming all along, the imposition of martial law.

    Switch the channel. The latest on Bruce Jenner and the Supreme Court’s ruling that sick and perverted people can get married. Not a big issue for me, but now it is politically incorrect to suggest that a person that is born with XY chromosomes will die with XY chromosomes no matter how much he mutilates his genitals or how many hormones he takes. Or that people were designed to have children when XY and XX parents screw. I despise religious fanatics of all types, and the ones that claim they are going to set themselves on fire, I wanna donate a few gallons of petrol and offer to toss the match on them after the soak themselves real good in it, but the gay as normal shit being rammed in my face is getting on my nerves. No wonder the Russians call us “American faggots” and the conservatives talk about the “liberal media”, as all the news commentators seem ecstatic and obsessed with Bruce Jenner’s mental problems or the bull dyke and her submissive or two tinker bells being able to get married, adopt children, etc. Thank goodness my parents were straight. Can you imagine how you’d feel if you had Richard Simmons and Bruce Jenner as your mom and dad? Fuck that. Did anyone mention that the country is facing critical water shortages, let alone that we are 220 trillion dollars in actual debt (when medicare, social security, and veteran’s benefits and what the neocons like to refer to as “entitlement programs”, which they are slowly starting to cut as a prelude to elimination). How about the collapse of the dollar and the US getting locked out of the international oil trade from which we need to import 2/3 of our staggering energy needs or the prospect of the insane sons of bitches that run this shithole of a country provoking WWIII with Russia as they seem intent on doing? The decline of the honey bees and mass starvation? No. Let’s focus on Bruce Jenner and gay rights. Now that is what is important. Housing values are starting to recover. The check is in the mail. I promise I won’t cum in your mouth. The world’s greatest lies and this is what passes for news and the useful idiots eat it up every fucking time. There is no hope.

    Speaking of no hope, switch the channel. The latest bally hoo and hoopala about the impending circus show that some call the 2016 election, with the different figure heads for the same mafia, namely Hitlery Clinton vs that fat bastard, that son of a Bush as the choices. Like getting boiled in oil or burned at the stake, take your pick. I think I will stay at home, sit on the TV and stare at the sofa. What a fucking joke. And to see all these people get all worked up about it. “Change we can believe in”. The check is in the mail, I promise I won’t cum in your mouth. Some of us won’t get fooled again at least.

    Then there is that over sized fetus, John bonehead McCain, talking about putting boots on the ground in the Ukraine as the media continues with the usual lies and distortions about Russia wanting to expand its empire. They conveniently fail to make a few simple comparisons. How many countries has the Russian Federation invaded? If you believe these assholes, they will say the Ukraine (and even if that were true, nobody asks what fucking business is that of ours?). The real answer is zero. On the other hand, how many countries has the US invaded or meddled in? Let’s see. Iraq (3 times now and counting), Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, Syria, Grenada, Vietnam, Somalia, Panama, Nicaragua, Chile, El Salvador, Egypt, the Ukraine, North Korea, etc , etc. There is hardly a nation on earth that thinks of our government as kind and benevolent protectorates of “democracy abroad”, but that is what many of the useful idiots back here actually believe. How many overseas military bases does Russia have? None. The US on the other hand maintains over a thousand overseas military bases. And Obama actually had the audacity to claim that the US lead sanctions on Russia were to teach them a lesson about picking on smaller countries (i.e., the Ukraine). Seriously. No corporate media outlets bother to question, let alone report anything that even remotely questions or criticizes this utter lie, this fairytale. The desperation of the neocons leads me to believe that the collapse many of us thought should have happened by now is in fact drawing near. The usual stunts like money printing, accounting fraud, gold manipulation, threats, sanctions, and warfare are no longer working as the neocons are losing their hegemony to the east and are degenerating to warfare and violence as a solution. Those of you that condone this insanity, don’t think you are immune. Guess what, assholes? You are next. When has your government or the interests they serve shown you any great loyalty? Just ask one of the 22 veterans who commit suicide on an average day that question. Read the latest from Dr Paul Craig Roberts, the conservative founder of “Reaganomics”. http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/06/04/ukrainians-dispossessed-americans-next-paul-craig-roberts/

    Hitlery Clinton brags about “standing up to Putin”, while Jeb Bush is quoted as saying “we need to make the world start to fear the US again”. Now wouldn’t a terrorist agree with a sentiment like that. One or the other will be the head stooge in charge over a country that implodes on their watch. Excited about your future? It does look so brilliant.

    Now to the critical mass that is happening in Greece. I am wondering if that newly elected leader there was/is bought and sold. The IMF, which the west has used to loot other countries, cannot give them any slack, else other countries in trouble will demand the same. Yet if the Greek leader (prime minister, whatever his title is) chooses to remain in the EU, the people that elected him will eat him alive as they are robbed and stripped bare of their pensions, their livelihoods, their quality of life, their dignity. A simple solution would be to take the Russian offer, tell the EU and the IMF to go fuck itself, and join BRICS. Yet if he chooses the sensible route, as Dr Paul Craig Roberts again writes, he will likely face assassination (either by shooting, an unfortunate plane crash, or developing some weird and rare, aggressive form of cancer). If the Greeks do the sensible thing and exit the EU, that house of cards starts to collapse and we would likely see the EU then implode and with it, NATO, a mercenary army that the US uses to maintain its hegemony. Without Europe to harass Russia, US hegemony and the empire will effectively end as BRICS nations can and will offer the countries that are obviously vassal states for the neocons back here. US sanctions by themselves cannot touch Russia, but when the neocons can pressure their European bitch boys to act against their own self interests as the Camerons, Hollandes, Merkels, Abbotts of the world are now doing (and how about our bitch boy Canadian friends, sending non lethal aide to the neo Nazis in the Ukraine and their military advisors, I presume to show them how to throw moose turds along with mortars and artillery at innocent civilians in the “separatist” republics, or the “insurgents” as our propagandists and presstitutes in the western media like to call them). Can always count on our friends to the great white north to sell out to our will and never have minds of their own.

    The results of that Malaysian jet the neo Nazis shot down are supposed to come out this July. Does anyone expect the truth to actually be revealed about that long forgotten incident? If the truth does come out, or of the Greeks are allowed to decide their own fate, the world will become a radically different place. The next few weeks or months may turn out to be the most important in recent history. Either way, pull up a chair and watch the collapse unfold, slowly and painfully, or swift and sudden. Not to worry. Hitlery Clinton or that son of a Bush will have your best interests in mind.

    • wpa--ccc June 28, 2015 at 3:57 pm #

      Instead of switching the channels, why don’t you turn off the TV? Pick up a good book.

    • Buck Stud June 28, 2015 at 4:09 pm #

      Wow Michigan Native, that’s a mighty righteous/monumental tirade!

      ‘Bruce Jenner and Richard Simmons as parents’–LMAO!

      I maintain a cheap monthly gym membership because I like to use the Precor machine. While on the machine I noticed they play music videos from the likes of Taylor Swift and other assorted drama queens–take your pick; they’re all the same. Anyway I noticed that the visual that accommodate the music rapidly switch from one scene to another with absolutely no narrative connection in many instances.

      Overcoming a “monkey mind” is one of the hardest ongoing fights a human being will ever have and here we have media sources actively contributing to attention spans more befitting of infants.Truly a cacophonous barrage that further Twiitterizes the collective American attention span. These type of minds have no ability or capability to contemplate/enjoy something as sedate as a painting on a wall–all of their ‘thrills’ are constantly spoon fed to them by electronic media.

      But we still put one foot in front of the other and we probably owe to ourselves to least try and enjoy the ride while it lasts. I learned last week that the 15 yr old son of an acquaintance slipped and fell in the shower and broke his neck, dying on the spot.

      Hope some breezes and mists from ancient Dalriada come your way and cool things down. Because without suffocating heat and humidity, ‘cloudy overcast days’ can be truly magical. I wouldn’t count on any magic though; probably you’ll have to wait for late September/ October–the astrological moment so many aesthetes have been born in, curiously enough.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 28, 2015 at 6:05 pm #

      Just take a deep breath, hold it, and the let it out gradually. Feel better? Good, now accept the fact: the South had every right to secede. The South was Right. What is a Union if its members can’t leave?

      Why do you deny Whites the right to have their own Nations? Slavery was on its way out anyway. Of course we had to go to Africa and make the Blacks and Muslims give it up.

      The first thing the Blacks did when they went back to Liberia? Enslave the Natives.

  163. Q. Shtik June 28, 2015 at 3:14 pm #

    Dateline: March 28, 2019, Brussels, Belgium

    Tsipras and Varafuckus thumb noses at Troika

    “In yet ANOTHER failed attempt to solve the Greek debt problem, now alleged by sources to total 117.3 trillion euros, the left-wing duo running Greece showed up at the latest Euro Zone conference “dressed” in colorful Speedos, flipflops, ties but no shirts, and slathered in suntan oil…… an obvious further sartorial f u to the European powers that be….. etc., etc., etc.

    On a sad note, just hours before the above mentioned meeting, 83 year old former IMF head, Christine Lagarde, died unexpectedly from complications of breast augmentation surgery.”

  164. barbisbest June 28, 2015 at 3:20 pm #

    ‘Turn on the news. Areas of the country that aren’t getting baked alive are being flooded with torrential rain. Makes me wonder how the inbreds/rednecks in the good old south are going to prosper when the energy crisis hits home and they no longer have AC and fans to cool the stench off their bodies. During more uncharitable moments, I when I am not hoping that a giant tsunami will not arise and inundate the entire southeast and wipe out everyone in the “old Confederacy”, I think to myself “could not happen to a nicer bunch”

    There it is, generalization of southerners again! Not all southerners are ignorant, but of course, you might get that from a northern reprobate Michigan native. I am the offspring of an intelligent Detroit native lady, who died a southern belle! Some of us wont use AC no matter how damn hot it gets, because we are intelligent. And another thing, Deliverance was filmed in Georgia, not West Virginia! WV always gets a bad rap. Virginia and WV were once one state until the northerners decided to make it two states.

    I do agree with you about the nation baking thing. Did anyone notice all the temperature records broken this week and last??!?!? My local news, one temperature record after another broken. Don’t be alarmed, dumb *** southerners and northerners. Just keep turning up the air conditioning!

    The question of the week…

    Do you know the way to Medievalville?

    • michigan_native June 28, 2015 at 4:36 pm #

      Jimmy Carter and Paul Craig Roberts are from the south. I like to poke some of the inbreds down there for the way they think and act. Bible thumpers. Rednecks. Full of hatred and ignorance, it doesn’t take much to get killed for not sharing their political views down that way. In certain areas a large percentage of the population depend on food assistance, yet they vote for these mean spirited far right winged repugs that want to cut (and rest assured, eliminate) food assistance at a time when people need them more than ever. I have found invariably that when you talk to these idiots, they reasons for voting for people who fuck them up the ass ultimately revolves around some primitive thinking….we got to stand up to the Russian commies (they apparently never learned that the former USSR collapsed decades ago and the Russian Federation is no longer a communist regime) (and if it it was, what do they think? That the Russians want to steal their bib overalls or there chewing tobacco or whatever), we got to “get them before they get us” (take your pick….the A-rabs, as they call them or the ‘illegal immigrants), or the other common reason (the blacks and other minorities are somehow ruining their lives). Granted, their are unresolved racial issues that are close to reaching a boiling point, but even if they could get their wish to send them all back to Africa and put up an electrified fence with machine gun check points all along the borders, their problems would still remain, their collapse and demise will still happen, and it had nothing to do with Russians, “illegal immigrants”, “blacks”, or them “A-rabs”.

      Granted, we have scumbags and idiots up this way as well. Our prick governor, republican Rick Snyder, has allowed this state to turn into some kind of police state, like neighboring Ohio. Everywhere you go, unmarked cop cars armed with the latest state of the art laser guns. You would think that speeding and other traffic violations are the sole reason for their existence, which used to be supposedly to serve and protect, not steal, beat, and kill. All part of that vain and futile effort to pump up the budgets. Steal money from people. Poor and middle class people are their preferred targets

      My city has jumped on that bandwagon. It is a $100 ticket to be seen pushing a shopping cart around. Like most cities, there is a poor area that we call “shack town”, presumably a bunch of cheap houses that were thrown up to house workers they brought up here to work in the factories. Everyone there is on some kind of disability or assistance. This 19 year son of this gal I used to see (before she drank herself to the point where her liver failed and has to get dialysis) was crossing the street to get a pop. The cops detained him for “jay walking” (the intersection at the light is several hundred yards away and everybody there “jaywalks”) , used that as an excuse to search him. They found a joint in his cigarette pack. $600 dollar kick in the nuts initially, I don’t know if he has to pay more to go through “probation” . He just got his GED and was planning on going to college to get training to be an HVAC technician and get married to his girlfriend, was trying to save up enough to get a car to get him to and from school. A decent kid, he is now set back because of the cops on steroids. If he has a permanent record over a joint, then his life is effectively ruined. Jobs are scarce. Your employer is now God. You are no longer entitled to have a life away from work, and nobody wants to hire anyone with a blemish on their record.

      The same girl’s “old man” is disability with some kind of muscle wasting disease. He was seen pushing a shopping cart back from the store where he used his bridge card to get the cheap food that is available. The guy can’t walk without a cane and he sure can’t carry any bags of cheese, chips, bologna, hot dogs, etc (the crap that they eat). They used that “crime” as an excuse to search him, found a bottle with a few Xanax on it that didn’t have his name on it. Same. $600 dollar fine plus the $100 for transporting his food in a shopping cart. Their solution for people that are down is to kick them hard in the face.

      One of her old drinking pals was tossed in jail for “loitering” (there was a small gathering of homeless winos and alcoholics that liked to hang at this picnic table at this patch of weeds that once was a park that nobody goes near anymore). I am told she was later ticketed for dumpster diving (that is now apparently an offense with a fine in this fucked up, dying city I am trapped in). The last time I ventured out that way, hoping to find her as she would give me head for hours as long as I kept giving her cans of beer, (she is kinda cute and will do anything for alcohol and gives a pretty wicked blow job),the cops were everywhere in that area. One followed me all the way down one of the roads that leads there, they are just hoping that one of your turn signals or break lights fail as they run your license plate. The motherfuckers even had “seat belt” enforcement traps, but some of the people got tired of that and started to stand along the roads with warning signs, (I wonder when they will arrest, fine, and probably beat people for that). The SOB’s got me once, back in 2003. The cop that gave me the ticket, I thought was going to have a stroke. This sawed off punk yelling at me, his face all red, the wedges in his neck sticking out because I didn’t have my driver’s license either (work was just a mile down the road and the place had a major theft problem there, so I left my wallet at home). So they were assholes long before this collapse process starting gaining momentum. Talk about Stalinist Russia and Nazi Germany, your papers are not in order. I think what got his goat was when I suggested he take a Prozac, but I tend to defy authority whenever I get the chance. Now I drive with the cruise control set to go exactly one mile under the limit, I don’t try to run any yellow lights, because the cock suckers have no shame in taking away what amounts to breaking your back 8 hours at work because the city, county, or state budgets are broke or close to running out.

      And so the collapse is evident everywhere. I just wished it would run its course so people can at least try to start over again, hopefully learning from the mistakes of the past, but that is a rare form of optimism which I know deep down inside will never happen. People will go on wanting to screw each other until the last, every man for himself instead of coming to their senses and realizing the joyride is over.

    • Janos Skorenzy June 28, 2015 at 5:48 pm #

      So because Deliverance was filmed in Georgia that says something about people in Georgia? Are you a simpleton or just a “Lady”?

  165. volodya June 28, 2015 at 3:48 pm #


    what you’re describing is a society that’s lost its fucking marbles. Which is also what Kunstler writes about regularly. You’re right, of course, about the Russkis taking the measure of their adversary. The Chinese too for that matter. And others.

    For now there’s a certain subset of the American population, broadly speaking conservative and lower income, that’s willing to put their lives at risk for what they see as a worthy cause (America). But, for this subset, the realization can’t be far off that the country’s leadership doesn’t work for anyone but the oligarch and that the guy humping a rucksack and rifle is being played for a sucker.

    IOW the soldier boy will realize he’s been sold a load of shit, that he’s been picked clean, that guys like him have nothing and nothing to look forward to. What then? Who picks up the rifle in the country’s defense?

    Views change slowly, sometimes too slowly. But views do change. It’s been coming out that the Russians have been employing internet trolls to post on-line commentary that’s highly complimentary to Putin and his regime. Hmmm… government employed trolls. Couldn’t happen in America. Nah. Could it? And if it does? Is this the America of freedom and liberty the soldier boy went to war for?

    So what do we have?

    Idiots useful to the oligarchs, working for the oligarchs, advancing the oligarch agenda, those useful idiots thinking they’re moving society “forward”. You know, “progressives”, the people that prove their worth to the oligarch by means of all the distractionary button pushing while the oligarch does his looting.

    You’ve seen them, ironically detached, atheistic, eye-ball rolling hipsters. So, these people with soft hands, living soft lives in urban-la-la-bubble-lands, are they going to pick up the rifle in the country’s defense?

    Because even if the USA were to mind its own business and never again bother anybody outside its own borders, there’s no way for turf as big as the USA big to remain unmolested by outsiders. The wide oceans are no defense. Ask the Indians.

    Forget the poor, southern, trailer park boy. Like I said, views change, his too. He’s done and he ain’t doing it again. He’s been laughed at, called a retard and chewed up and spat out by a social class that think of themselves as his better. Imagine, to risk death and dismemberment for such people? Why the hell should he?

    So these um, “progressives” I suppose will pick up the slack and report for duty. And why shouldn’t they? Isn’t America worth defending? Hasn’t America delivered what the “progressive” wanted? Hasn’t America given the “progressive” the best life compared to anybody anywhere?

    I’m telling you, the “progressives” will show up. You watch, they’ll be saluting the flag and sir-yes-sir-ing with gusto. They’ll put themselves in harm’s way for the country they’ve done so well by. But not before final, self-celebratory, all-day “Progressive” Sneer-Fests and Superiority Dances.

    Anyway, we’ll see how the army, manned (oops, can we say “manned”?) by “progressives” performs in the field, the Chinese army, after all, not being known for ironic detachment and who can survive on a hand-full of rice and mouthful of dirty water.

    No doubt the “progressive” will sneer at them too. I’m sure it’ll all be fine.

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  166. volodya June 28, 2015 at 4:03 pm #

    Oh yeah, Tsipras got his face on the TV telling his fellow Greeks no worries, be happy, Greek bank deposits are – cough – safe.

    And, by the way, Greek banks will be closed Monday. See, the ECB froze support. Hoo boy.

    And, according to one bank CEO, they’ll be closed all week. The Greek stock market will be closed too but I don’t know for how long.

    So, in two days the Greeks will have to cough up 1.7 billion Euros in debt repayment. Will they or won’t they…

  167. volodya June 28, 2015 at 4:14 pm #


    as far a dietary fiber goes, I’m agnostic. My view on diet is eat a variety of things, don’t eat too much and don’t worry about it.

    As far as moral fiber goes, if you borrow money with no intent of paying it back, you are a thief.

    And the lenders, whose business it is to know the borrower and who should have seen the borrower’s true colors, are morons if they lend to a thief.

  168. progress4what June 28, 2015 at 5:04 pm #

    Pretty good rant, Michigan Native. Go ahead and bust on the South since it makes you feel all better. And I’ll tell you that it was just fine down here until the mid-60’s, which was when air conditioning became commonplace. In an odd and unfortunate non-coincidence, records show that it was AC that brought down millions of Yankees to tell us how much better they did it “up North.”

    Do note, though, that when you say “yet another black is beaten or killed for the capital offenses of being loud at a pool party, selling illegal cigarettes, having a broken tail light, etc etc,” that you have turned a good rant stupid.

    It’s social class, MN. Social class plus some real problems with police training and oversight – problems that most heavily impact lower class civilians REGARDLESS of race. Real facts indicate that roughly twice as many whites as blacks are killed by police, for any day, month, or year one chooses to analyze. http://www.killedbypolice.net/ To blame race for police killings is to ignore the real problem and substitute instead a simmering white/black/hispanic racial conflict that will, literally, never end. Why will it never end, you ask? Because the elites in charge of the MSM want it that way. They thank you for your support. Carry on. “All (black) lives matter.”

    • Janos Skorenzy June 28, 2015 at 5:57 pm #

      Nope. You’re still getting it wrong with your soft core Neo-Marxist cultural critique education. It’s hard to get rid of, I’ll grant you that. As Loyala said, give me a boy before 8 and he’s mine forever.

      Blacks at the same socio-economic level as Whites? Same levels of crime? No, much more. The poorest places in America? Some of the large Indian Reservations. Highest levels of crime? No. High but not as high as Black Ghettos. Lots of drug abuse, theft, and fights but much lower levels of murder and rape.

      Get it straight: life is more than meat. As Arjuna said to Krishna, the mind is like the wind. How can it be controlled? Krishna replies, It can be done. Try.

    • michigan_native June 29, 2015 at 5:12 pm #

      I identify myself as Native American, and to be honest, a large part of me doesn’t like most of you motherfuckers, but that is beside the point. What I was getting at is that these videos of the forces of law and order choking people to death for selling ‘illegal’ cigarettes’, that South Carolina inbred cop shooting that unarmed man who was running from him 8 times in the back, that other inbred cop in Texas that pulled his gun and started threatening and tackling a bunch of kids for being loud at a pool party, the other man who was pepper sprayed because he didn’t obey the cops (he supposedly was having a stroke), etc is not going unnoticed by millions of people who in their minds are beginning to view themselves as victims of a system of genocide. When the safety nets and social assistance programs are cut and eliminated, things will get very ugly in the US. I foresee race riots, gang riots, the government going at it with right winged militias. I foresee blood flowing in the streets in a post collapse USA. It doesn’t take much to get ticketed or killed by the cops anymore, especially in that area of the country where people exhibit nose mining habits and drooling problems from too much inbreeding, the old south, Dixie land.

  169. barbisbest June 28, 2015 at 5:30 pm #

    Spirit is manifested throughout all creation. Now, that is a reflection on true community. Today, I was standing near an 8 year old boy and commenting on a lovely vegetable garden. The boy made a comment about gardens being better than a zombie apocalypse. What kind of “a people” creates a place where 8 year olds live in fear? We could ask ourselves. Your site JHK, just like a woman takin’ over everything.
    The other question of the year, what the samhell does that have to do with Greece??!?!?!?!?! Not to be outdone, is there intelligent life on earth?

    • Janos Skorenzy June 28, 2015 at 6:01 pm #

      Children love to be scared – it’s a need. They’ll create their own monsters if we don’t give them some. Thus PC Faery Tales are so despicable.

      Think about it: What are Monsters? Dangerous animals. What are boogie Men: Child Abusers/Killers. Traditional Faery Tales warn children about these. They are thus utterly rational. Teaching children that they live in a peaceful world is a Lie and conditioning them against Nature a la Heather Has Two Mommies is Cruelty beyond measure.

  170. barbisbest June 28, 2015 at 6:01 pm #

    “Spirit is manifested throughout all creation.” David C. Korten
    For all voracious or not so voracious readers, Korten has written some thought inspiring stuff. Change the Story, Change the Future: A Living Economy for a Living Earth is a read recommended for intelligent life. Homo sapien, the most highly intelligent life form on earth?!?!? Best wishes.

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  171. merde June 28, 2015 at 6:04 pm #

    You should ask Putin what happened to the 300,000 Tartars who were exiled to Siberia during and after WW2 from Crimea by Stalin. Genocide is a convenient way to expropriate a region of a country. The European Union leaders call him Lilli-Putin for his small size. His wee willy is really the reason for invading Ukraine. A classic case of compensation for a diminutive wiener.

  172. Janos Skorenzy June 28, 2015 at 6:13 pm #


    It’s a logical conclusion: since Gays have been compared to African Americans in their quest for equal rights, those who disagree are in danger of being seen as evil as “racists” – and treated accordingly. Remember, even Blacks now have to apologize to Gays. Gays are above them in the PC Hierarchy.

  173. FincaInTheMountains June 28, 2015 at 7:04 pm #

    “You should ask Putin what happened to the 300,000 Tartars who were exiled to Siberia during and after WW2” — merde

    The internment of Japanese Americans in the United States was the forced relocation and incarceration during World War II of between 110,000 and 120,000 people of Japanese ancestry who lived on the Pacific coast in camps in the interior of the country. Sixty-two percent of the internees were United States citizens. The U.S. government ordered the removal of Japanese Americans in 1942, shortly after Imperial Japan’s attack on Pearl Harbor.


    Please note that Japanese Americans were NOT indicted in committing any crimes against the state, they were just incarcerated “in case”.

    Crimean Tatars were exiled for actual collaboration with Nazi occupational forces.

  174. merde June 28, 2015 at 8:26 pm #

    Actually, 150,000 Tartars were killed or forced out of Crimea between 1917 and 1930, in addition to the forced exile of 300,000 around 1945. Genocide was the rule, period. Stalin used the fake collaboration with Nazis as an excuse for murder. Cold, hunger, exhaustion and disease killed 50 % within weeks ( Wikipedia ). There were a few collaborators, there always are, but intent to murder an entire ethnic people for it, is ludicrous. The French Vichy government collaborated with the Nazis and France is still there. The Japanese Americans were well fed, lived in reasonable housing and free to do as they pleased and no one was killed, in contrast to what was happening in Europe

  175. wpa--ccc June 28, 2015 at 8:27 pm #

    Finca, the USA apologized and paid reparations to the Japanese who were illegally put into USA concentration camps?

    Has Russia done that for the innocent Crimean Tatars forced into exile? Was there any kind of due process? Or was it just a massive forced exile with no attempt to prove collaboration with Nazis?


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  176. progress4what June 28, 2015 at 8:37 pm #

    Interesting, Janos/Vlad, but we’re talking about two different issues. There is NOTHING to the “Black Lives Matter” meme except the desire of those PTB to use the media and the black grievance industry to keep a simmering race conflict on the back burner of the American stove, forever.

    It’s perfect. Need some votes? “Black Lives Mater.”

    Need to fill some space and sell some ads? “Black Lives Matter.”

    Want to do something about class conflict?
    Want to do something about improper police training and needlessly dead civilians?

    Tough titty. Because All Lives Don’t matter anymore, only “Black Lives Matter.” Ask Hillary. She just got schooled on this topic.

    Crap. Merde. Shit.
    It’s like those Powers That Be Can read minds.


    Anyway, Vlad, when you say, “Blacks at the same socio-economic level as Whites? Same levels of crime? No, much more.”

    I don’t know, man. Maybe? Maybe not. You need an adjustment for socioeconomic status – to go with all your data on testosterone and genetics. I’ve lived and worked with lower class whites, and they can be scary as all hell. Plus they can be pretty smart, tend hold a grudge, and tend to be vicious for a long time, once provoked.

    Lower class blacks – they don’t tend to have the same follow-through, or something, in my experience. Petty crime, poorly aimed gunfire, and random violence, sure. But vicious, grudge-holding with follow-through. I’ve never experienced it. Doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen, of course.

    Lower class whites tend to direct their crime against whites.
    Ditto for blacks, for Hispanics, and whoever else.
    Thank God, right?
    And I hope crime stays that way if descent picks up more speed. Better the Devil you know, in a collapsing society, right?

    • Janos Skorenzy June 28, 2015 at 9:56 pm #

      Your feelings and personal anecdotes have no place in the social sciences. Blacks commit more crimes at every socioeconomic level – and that’s a fact. Why? Well that’s where IQ and testosterone come in. Unfortunately the social sciences have been infested by PC hacks who misrepresent the fact. Here is Taylor on this:


  177. nsa June 28, 2015 at 8:55 pm #

    From the Some Pigs Are More Equal File. In 1999 the Makah tribal nitwits got permission to murder a gray whale. Did they use a spear? How about a harpoon? Being natural ecologists…they used a .577 caliber Tyrannosaur rifle. This tossed the commie libs over in Seattle into massive mental confusion……who to side with……the endangered whale or the disadvantaged minority group. In 2007, the Makah guardians of nature again murdered a whale, this time showing more sportsmanship by using a .460 Weatherby Mag elephant rifle. The mortally wounded endangered beast swam out to sea for 12 hours, then expired and sank. Oh, and did the disadvantaged minority ninnies paddle a war canoe carved from a cedar log for the “hunt”? Hell no….they used a Bayliner.

  178. wpa--ccc June 28, 2015 at 9:13 pm #

    Hey, P4W, you say both whites and Blacks are affected by crimes so no racism. Five Black churches were set on fire last week by white racists.

    Tell me, P4W, how many white churches were set on fire by Blacks last week?

    The reason the slogan is “Black lives matter” is because only Blacks are being killed in their churches. If whites were being killed in their churches, then the sign should, and would, say “All lives matter”

    • progress4what June 28, 2015 at 9:45 pm #

      The slogan “Black Lives Matter” came out of Ferguson, MO.

      Are you saying Brown was in a church when he strong-armed that store clerk for cigars, and was still in a church when he fought with that cop who had to kill him in self-defense?

      Or are you saying you are a liar who makes sh*t up?

      Wait. I know the answer.
      You’re a vile troll and a proven liar, wpa-soak. In this case, you are lying to help maintain a simmering racial conflict that benefits US elites, while having disastrous impacts on native born US blacks. That is amazingly vile. How do you live with yourself, knowing this?

  179. progress4what June 28, 2015 at 10:40 pm #

    Anytime a church burns, it’s a tragedy. And it happens a lot, always has, always will. Empty lonely buildings, old and poor wiring, lightning strikes, arson – there are a lot of things that can cause a church to burn.

    Jumping ahead of known facts to ascribe white racial malice to recent church fires seems wrong at best, more probably evil. But that’s what wpa (and others, of course) are setting about to do.

    And it’s happened before. http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2011/06/fanning_imaginary_flames_a_look_back_at_the_great_church_fire_propaganda_campaign.html
    “Fifteen summers ago, America’s news media informed us that black churches throughout the South were being torched by white racists. The purported wave of arsons dominated the airwaves and generated thousands of newspaper articles. Pundits, politicians and preachers decried the terrorism and the hate it represented.

    In fact, it never happened.

    Here is the little-known story of how an obscure radical group teamed up with a leftist national church organization, an unprincipled President and a legion of compliant news outlets to create a media firestorm — one based entirely on lies.” -excerpt-

    OK – I’m out of here. If previous practice holds, Wpa will now take the last word.

  180. merde June 28, 2015 at 11:51 pm #


    You don’t quite get that the totalitarian dictatorship of Stalin, and his protégé, Putin, are simply made up of a criminal state, gangsters and cold-blooded killers. Even now, the few thousand Tartars remaining in Crimea are persecuted, property stolen and their local government buildings seized. Gangsters don’t usually apologize or pay back their victims.

    Lilli-Putin tried steroids to get larger member but all he got was man-boobs.

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  181. BackRowHeckler June 29, 2015 at 4:14 am #

    Its not only Greece

    Puerto Rico is in Default, too, $75 billion in bond issues now potentially worthless.

    That one snuk up on me.

    The last word.


  182. FincaInTheMountains June 29, 2015 at 5:50 am #

    “Finca, the USA apologized and paid reparations to the Japanese who were illegally put into USA concentration camps”

    Wow, how nice of you! Did you apologize to American Indians that were exterminated with smallpox contaminated blankets? Or to civilian population of Nagasaki and Hiroshima? Or to civilians of Yugoslavia and Iraq that were exposed to contamination from depleted uranium munitions?

  183. FincaInTheMountains June 29, 2015 at 5:57 am #

    “Actually, 150,000 Tartars were killed or forced out…”

    Would be nice before expressing you feelings about Crimean Tatars to learn the difference between them and the Tartar sauce.

    But obviously, you don’t give a merde about Tatars.


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